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nimrodskreet_away: thank you! that was it12:15
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skreet_awaynimrod: No problem, sorry I didn't help ya sooner.12:15
nimrodok :-)12:15
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dan__hey does anyone know of a program that plays wmv's12:16
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Zairevlc12:16
dan__hmm12:16
dan__i have that12:16
Hawkwinddan__: mplayer and others if you have the right codecs installed12:16
dan__what codecs do i need on vlc12:16
chris_have you installed the w32 codecs?12:16
dan__let me check12:17
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chris_just search for w32codec in synaptic and you should find em12:17
dan__no12:17
dan__ok cool12:17
dan__thanx12:17
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dan__i cant find it12:19
zorglu_you got multiverse repository ?12:19
skreet_awaydan__: You have to have extra respositories install check ubuntuguide.org for a guide.12:19
Hawkwind!info w32codecs12:19
ubotuw32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In component extras, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (dapper-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB (Only available for i386)12:19
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OODit's in the seveas repo12:20
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dan__win32 binary codecs ok i think i have that on the list12:20
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dan__dang it12:21
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dan__i dont12:21
Max_-Is it easy to make a software raid (SWraid1) if I have a laptop with 2 hdd???  And how do I partition at first?12:21
dan__i have all the repositories hilighted12:21
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skreet_awaydan__: Please check ubuntuguide.org for adding additional repos that DO NOT come with kubuntu :)12:22
skreet_awaydan__: i.e. non-free codecs and the like.12:22
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chris_dan: mmm, i was about to sugest selecting the optional repos, it should be there12:22
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dan__oh ok let me check it out i think i may have figured it out12:23
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kdoellhallo12:24
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chxis there a way to download stuff from a mobile phone (Nokia 3220 or Sharp GX15/17)12:27
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lebifteksauvagehi12:27
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Admiral_Chicagohello12:28
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jester45any know if it possible to compress/decompress your whole drive drive12:32
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Sannehi12:33
Admiral_Chicagojester45, what do you mean?12:33
jester45like as a file is being read it get decompressed12:33
Admiral_Chicagolike compess your whole HD?12:33
Admiral_Chicagouhh i dont know about all that12:33
skreetLike with Windows Filesystem Compression?12:33
jester45and if you write to it it compresses it12:33
jester45yea maybe like that12:34
MasterEvil`LaptoOk I launch tightvncserver, but i think it's sharing only one window?? anyway i can share entire desktop?12:34
Admiral_Chicagoskreet, except that thing sucked12:34
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skreetYou don't want that, it sucks12:34
Admiral_Chicagoand took up MORE space then not being compressed12:34
skreetAdmiral_Chicago: There arn't enough system resources in the world to run off a compressed volume.12:34
jester45i want what is does12:34
skreetNo you dont.12:34
skreetYou want a new hard drive12:34
skreetwith more storage space12:34
jester45i have 3TB12:34
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skreetof what?12:35
jester45dont think new drive will help12:35
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skreetmovies, music?12:35
skreetcompressed data?12:35
jester45both12:35
jester45verything12:35
skreetit's not going to help you to compress it12:35
skreetit's compressed media.12:35
jester45i have music programs movies just about anything you can think of12:35
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skreetYou dont want to compress it. It's terrible.12:35
skreetThats why there isnt a good solution for it in Linux.12:36
skreetBecause it's a bad idea.12:36
skreetBuy 3 TB more storage space, I guess..12:36
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jester45wish i could do that12:36
skreetOr delete some `moviez`12:36
jester45wish there was a filesystem with that was like on big rar12:36
jester45i cant do that12:36
skreetNo you dont.12:37
skreetYou think you wish that.12:37
skreetHow long does it take to rar something?12:37
skreet:)12:37
jester45i dont care about that12:37
cpk2can you imagine how long it would take to do anything12:37
jester45have like half rared12:37
skreetthen rar the stuff you dont use12:37
cpk2oh, lets open this... decompressing...12:37
jester45half for storage other half for games/programs12:37
cpk2plus what would it decompress to? the pagefile?12:38
jester45i think my computer could handle that12:38
skreetcpk2: lol12:38
jester45ram12:38
skreetjester45: How much ram do you have?12:38
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cpk2you are going to buffer a whole movie to ram?12:38
jester45my storage server has 12gb12:38
jester45i could12:38
jester45i want the one online that has 32gb12:39
skreetjester45: If you have 3 tb of hard disk and 12 gb of ram why is it so bad to add more hard disk space12:39
jester45it could do anything12:39
skreetjester45: Anything? Like watch movies?12:39
jester45becuase the case if full12:39
skreetjester45: lol.12:39
jester45lol12:39
jester45yea12:39
jester45many movies12:39
skreet32gb of ram isnt for ANYTHING desktop12:39
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jester45yea the 32gb is a desktop12:39
jester45isnt*12:39
skreetjester45: what I mean is you probably dont have a use for a system with 32gb of ram12:39
skreetjester45: Unless you have a 32gb mysql database, or something12:40
MasterEvil`Laptoor is using a compressed file system? :P12:40
jester45hehe12:40
zorglu_well a big 3d station may need that much :)12:40
jester45see12:40
jester45save room12:40
MasterEvil`Laptoi'm j/k.. i think i side with skreet12:40
skreetYea, put all your movies in the 32gb of ram.12:40
skreetPower goes out.12:40
skreetCry..12:40
skreet:P12:40
jester45lolk12:41
jester45i would be a bit mad12:41
zorglu_hehe ram as very fast disk :)12:41
MasterEvil`Laptothat's a lot of ram12:41
skreetyea12:41
skreetit's a server12:41
skreet:) google probably has 32gb of ram in their boxen12:41
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jester45http://www.siliconmechanics.com/c221/storage-server.php12:41
MasterEvil`Laptothey're google though12:41
cpk2i would hope if you have something that huge its on a ups12:41
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skreetcpk2: Agreed.12:41
skreetcpk2: Though if you're looking to store movies on a compressed filesystem you might not.12:41
MasterEvil`Laptoi'm sure they even have excess vespene gas12:42
MasterEvil`Lapto</starcraft>12:42
skreetyes!12:42
skreetlol12:42
cpk2so you could technically load storage onto the ram12:42
jester45aa starcraft12:42
cpk2then if the power goes out save it to disk before the ups dies12:42
jester45lovethat game12:42
jester45butthe squarsare to big12:42
skreetcpk2: Or you could buy faster hard disk storage12:42
skreetcpk2: And more of it.12:42
jester45no disk is ram fast12:43
cpk2well high can you go with ram? 64 gigs?12:43
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skreetYou can't build a SCSI320 16TB raid out of RAM..12:43
cpk2how much does 64bit linux support?12:43
skreetAMD64?12:43
skreet8gb.12:43
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skreet64-bit.12:43
skreet64GB12:43
skreetI think.12:43
lupine_85only 8GB?12:43
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jester45lol if you had a TB os ram12:43
skreetAMD64 arch is limited to 8gb, afaik12:43
skreetAddressing doesn't go that far.12:44
jester45i would never turn that computer off and use teh ram as a uber gameing system12:44
cpk2i am quite sure you can go over 8g12:44
skreetjester45 is probably the kind of person who would buy a 1900$ CAD card to gaming then be very disappointed.12:44
skreetcpk2: on AMD64? I think it's an arch limit.12:44
MasterEvil`Laptowhat's command to configure WINE?12:45
zorglu_seems weird to me12:45
lupine_85Red HAt can do 1TB on amd64: https://www.redhat.com/rhel/details/limits/12:45
lupine_85it's just a matter of setting the right kernel options, I'd imagine12:45
skreetI just assumed it was a motherboard issue12:45
jester45how fast of a cpu show my storeage server have to run at max12:45
skreetI remember running into 3.75GB limits on AMD64 boxes running XP, probably an OS problem though12:46
jester45from what i can tell its at max12:46
lupine_85finding enough slots would be difficult...12:46
skreetjester45: I didnt understand anything you just said..12:46
jester45but all i did was give it to my friend to get it setup then added disks12:46
cpk2heres an interesting link too for ram http://blogs.msdn.com/slavao/archive/2005/06/03/424825.aspx12:46
jester45my storage server how fast should the cpu be12:46
skreetlupine_85: Maybe Multi-processor AMD 64 FX...12:47
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skreetjester45: .. How fast of a CPU should you have in a storage server?12:47
skreetjester45: How often do you access your data?12:47
zorglu_Larger physical address space: Current implementations of the AMD64 architecture can address up to 1 tebibyte of RAM <- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD6412:47
jester45umm12:47
zorglu_is this naive ?12:47
jester45like all the time12:47
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jester45probly a constant 1-2mbs and burst to 2 or 3 movies12:48
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cpk2isnt it more like how many cpus should you have? =P12:48
zorglu_http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-5158836.html <- they got 16gbyte on linux amd6412:49
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lupine_85jester45: irrelevant, as you're limited by the Ethernet12:49
lupine_85Get 10GigE fibre and you might have to worry about that12:49
lupine_85jester45: it's not a big issue12:49
lupine_85switching to Intel (yuck) Pro ethernet would save you some CPU time and get better throughput12:49
lupine_85yes, the main limitation seems to be related to physical slots...12:49
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skreetlupine_85: Not a fan of Intel?12:50
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lupine_85no, but their Ethernet cards are the best12:50
jester45i havent had any problems with the speed yet12:50
cpk2gotta love the celerons, so cheap12:50
jester45mass the celerons12:50
odwortekhi, can You help me?12:50
lupine_85Sempon, Duron - cheap, faster12:50
jester45i can try12:50
MasterEvil`Laptomy vncserver is only sharing a console window, not my entire desktop. What gives?12:51
odwortekmy installation is stoping12:51
skreetlupine_85: Sempron yes, Duron uggggh12:51
skreetCeleron D's are pretty slick12:51
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lupine_85back to RAM... it took us... 17? years to fill up the new "more than enough" addressable space. So according to Moore's Law, we should all have ~1TB in another 1712:51
jester45my sempron broke12:51
lupine_85cor12:51
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lupine_85I've been AMD ever since the K6-2 23312:51
odwortekdo you know why installation process can stop?12:51
skreetfanboi12:51
lupine_85never looked back12:51
lupine_85:p12:51
skreetI've been using everything since I used PCs12:52
skreetWithout bias based on a trademark12:52
skreet:)12:52
skreetExcept Gateway, they suck.12:52
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jester45odwortek: maybe you ran out of space or try it again or get a text based installer if your computer cant handle the live cd12:52
skreetethical? Go on..12:52
lupine_85AMD generally fab their chips in Germany12:52
lupine_85guess where Intel do it?12:52
skreetMalaysia12:53
odwortekjester45: everything you mentioned is ok12:53
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jester45odwortek: have you tried to restart then trying it again12:53
jester45odwortek: it works sometimes12:54
lupine_85(Intel have some operations in ireland and the USA as well, but I think AMD are a safer bet generally)12:54
lupine_85plus, I like underdogs )12:54
jester45they not much of a underdog anymore12:54
skreetlupine_85: that makes me upset.12:54
skreetPeople who root for underdogs because they have a smaller marketshare12:55
skreet:P12:55
skreetWanna know a secret?12:55
odwortekjester45: many times12:55
odwortekjester45: about 512:55
skreetIntel's x86 division is a major part of their production12:55
skreetAMD makes all kinds of other things12:55
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skreet:)12:55
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lupine_85:gasp!: ;)12:55
skreetLike.. EEPROMs12:55
skreetand 286 chips!12:55
skreetlol12:55
skreetAnd now.. ATI video cards!12:55
skreetlol12:55
Zaireis there a .deb package for sdl 1.2.0?12:56
lupine_85!libsdl-1.212:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libsdl-1.2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:56
jester45i want a supercomputer i would rent it out for 500,000 a hour12:56
lupine_85bah, it's called something like that12:56
lupine_85jester45: you'd face some stiff competition from BlueGene/L12:56
jester45aa some bombs would take care of that12:56
jester45boom booom booom anyone up for 100million now??12:57
skreet...12:57
jester45that would be cool make a 100million a hour12:57
skreet...12:58
lupine_85ah, blessed silence12:58
jester45i hate it12:58
skreetlupine_85: It's more that theres nothing that can be said12:58
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SanneZaire: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin//search_packages.pl?version=dapper&subword=1&exact=&arch=any&releases=all&case=insensitive&keywords=libsdl1.2&searchon=names12:58
jester45i like talking or errrrr typeing12:58
lupine_85no, it's more that a plonk in time saves nine :)12:59
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lupine_85bed time for me, anyway - 14hr day tomorrow12:59
jester45hehe my playlist is like 16000 songs long and i hate some of the songs12:59
jester45and im nevergoing ot get to the end12:59
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skreetlupine_85: I hear that.. I got a 14 hour day as well12:59
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skreetI have a feeling the RIAA is going to catch you someday jester...12:59
sandokan512Hi12:59
jester45i got 0 hours01:00
Zairethanks sanne01:00
SanneZaire: you're welcome01:00
jester45RIAA has nothing on me01:00
skreet:)01:00
skreetmy ISP sent a friend of mine an E-Mail asking him to stop his BitTorrent01:00
skreethahaha.01:00
nihil_hey, anyone uses rxvt-unicode console ?01:00
jester45lol01:00
jester45thats great01:00
skreetDMZ'd client = packet sniffing without worries.01:01
LeeJunFanI know 2 people who have gotten warning letters from lawyers.01:01
skreetI guess.01:01
jester45i like thepiratebay's threat letters and the responses01:01
Raz`This may seem like a stupid question, but most linux sites assume you know how to install linux programs. .bz2, .gz file, packages file?01:02
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jester45one was this lawer for microsoft it was like 400 pages long  and they replyed with   so what01:03
LeeJunFanRaz`: kind of - at least how to untarr/zip them, most of them have a README file with installation instructions.01:03
LeeJunFanafter you get it untarred.01:03
jester45i hate the errors whe installing01:04
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jester45such an inconvenience01:04
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jester45well im going to that friends house to ask him about my storage delema probly have to get a few more 500GBers01:05
Raz`This has no readme :(01:05
lupine_85INSTALL ?01:06
jester45cd to the folder type sudo ./configure && make01:06
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jester45or something like that01:06
LeeJunFan!build01:06
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)01:06
LeeJunFanRaz`: see what ubotu says ^^01:07
jester45dont listen to me01:07
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cr4sh0v3rr1d3does anyone in here know if it is possible to take a wireless connection, send it out through my network card and into a dlink router?01:19
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cr4sh0v3rr1d3via a bridge01:20
LeeJunFancr4sh0v3rr1d3: so you are saying your computer is connected to a wireless network, and from there you want to connect to a dlink router so other people can use it as well?01:20
cr4sh0v3rr1d3yes01:21
cr4sh0v3rr1d3exactly01:21
lupine_85cr4sh0v3rr1d3: enable ip forwarding and you're away01:21
LeeJunFanyeah, there are many ways you could go about that.01:22
cr4sh0v3rr1d3do i need a crossover or will a straight through cable work?01:22
cr4sh0v3rr1d3from my computer back to the router\01:22
LeeJunFanthe dlink probably auto senses so either one would work. Most new NIC's will as well.01:22
lupine_85assuming: 1) that the D-link router supports static routing; 2) that the D-link and the WAP are on different subnets; and 3) that you want to use static addressing (otherwise install a DHCP server on the linux PC)01:22
lupine_85oh, and you'd need to specify your PC as the default route in the WAP01:23
LeeJunFanyou will also need to either use NAT or proxy_arp.01:23
lupine_85easier would be to buy an Atheros card, put it in your PC and use it as the AP01:24
lupine_85LeeJunFan: good point :). /me has public IPs all the way01:24
cr4sh0v3rr1d3yeah i just got a prism2 card01:24
cr4sh0v3rr1d3it was supposed to work as an access point01:24
lupine_85hostpad?01:24
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LeeJunFancr4sh0v3rr1d3: it can, but it can't be in managed and master mode at the same time - like atheros with madwifi-ng can.01:25
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cr4sh0v3rr1d3ahhh, any recommendation for a good atheros card?01:26
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LeeJunFanI don't know that the atheros are available in any form other than minipci to be honest.01:27
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LeeJunFanwhich would be internal to a laptop or desktop.01:27
LeeJunFanyou can make it work with the prism just fine the way you want.01:27
LeeJunFanFirst - have you connected to the internet with the wireless network?01:28
jacob_I am having a problem with my screen res. any one help?01:28
cr4sh0v3rr1d3yes01:28
cr4sh0v3rr1d3on it right now, LeeJunFan01:28
LeeJunFancr4sh0v3rr1d3: and have you setup a network on eth0 for the dlink yet?01:28
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cr4sh0v3rr1d3LeeJunFan,  not yet01:29
cr4sh0v3rr1d3i have the cable plugged in01:29
cr4sh0v3rr1d3and the router powered on01:29
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LeeJunFancr4sh0v3rr1d3: okay, you'll want to 'man interfaces' to learn how to configure the /etc/network/interfaces file for your eth0, you'll need to setup a LAN network on it with private IP addresses.01:30
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brandon_how do I get adamantix through adept?01:30
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LeeJunFanie. eth0 should be 192.168.10.1 netmask 255.255.255.0, the dlink can have the WAN interface configured as 192.168.10.2 with the default gateway being 192.168.10.101:31
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LeeJunFanonce you can ping the dlink router at 192.168.10.2, then you need to enable forwarding on the linux box and setup NAT to translate the address of outgoing traffic.01:32
LeeJunFanAnd that should do it.01:32
brandon_I can't find adamantix on adept01:32
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MasterEvil`Laptookay i got my vncserver stuff worked out. I set it up to where i can launch it with an icon on desktop.. how can i keep it open? It seems to act like it's trying to load but then it just exits??01:33
Hawkwindbrandon_: What is adamantix ?01:33
LeeJunFanbrandon_: never heard of it.01:33
cr4sh0v3rr1d3LeeJunFan,  thanks a bunch man, appreciate it, ill give it a shot. also...01:33
D4rklyif i mount my xp drive using sudo mount its owned by root, can i mount a drive thats owned by user ?01:33
HawkwindD4rkly: If it's set properly in fstab you can01:33
cr4sh0v3rr1d3ive setup a wired bridge with firestarter before, would you recommend manually over using that?01:34
D4rklyi didnt want to use fstab01:34
brandon_umm... it's a program that goes to the websites and downloads the things you need and installs them, all you do is click the box and it leaves a checkmark and downloads it01:34
Jucatobrandon_: I think you mean automatix01:34
Jucato!automatix > brandon_01:34
LeeJunFanD4rkly: mount -ouid=[username]  /dev/[device]  /mountpoint01:34
cr4sh0v3rr1d3leejunfan, wouldnt firestarter take care of the nat translation?01:34
brandon_aww... I'm so stuoppid01:34
D4rklythanx :)01:34
brandon_lol, I can't even spell stupid01:34
LeeJunFancr4sh0v3rr1d3: not sure, I've never used it.01:35
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cr4sh0v3rr1d3ahh ok, thanks again LeeJunFan01:35
Jucatobrandon_: check the link that the channel bot PM'ed you :)01:35
sureshot brandon are you from hillsboro ohio01:35
LeeJunFannp01:35
rawrwhen i go to display it won't let me change the res even when loged as admin any one know how to fix it?01:35
LeeJunFan!xorg01:37
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:37
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LeeJunFanrawr: ^^01:38
rawrthanks01:38
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rawri hate having a large screen thats to large to operate....01:39
LeeJunFancr4sh0v3rr1d3: btw - bridging and wireless don't mix.01:39
LeeJunFancr4sh0v3rr1d3: so you need to do NAT / routing. The MAC layer of the wireless card will likely not allow "mac spoofing", which is needed for ethernet layer bridging.01:40
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cr4sh0v3rr1d3LeeJunFan, ahh ok i had tried that before and it gave me problems, no wonder01:41
cr4sh0v3rr1d3ill just set it up the nat way01:41
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LeeJunFancr4sh0v3rr1d3: yeah, it's less headache, some day if you are ambitious or _need_ real world IP's you can look into using proxy_arp instead of bridging, it basically has the same effect.01:42
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rawrthat was werid....01:45
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rawri typed in that sudo command to restart the x server i htink01:45
rawrand it just gos crazy........ and crashs01:45
LeeJunFanrawr: I take it you aren't on the machine with the x problems?01:46
rawrnope i am on it.01:46
rawrI think i read somthing about it crashing due to my viedo card01:47
rawrit don't restart or switch users either01:47
LeeJunFanrawr: can you pastbin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file? and what resolution are you trying to achieve?01:47
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rawr1. how? N00b. 2. not sure smaller.01:47
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LeeJunFan!paste01:48
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:48
lcohenhi all, I have a Dell 700m, everything works fine, but I cannot seem to get my Fn-ESC key to work (it is mapped to standby by the laptop) where would I assign the key?  thanks01:48
LeeJunFanrawr: open the file like 'kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf' ctrl-a to select all - ctrl-c to copy, then paste it at the address ubotu just post above for pastebin.01:48
rawrkk01:49
LeeJunFanrawr: so the display is actually larger than the screen? ie. you move the mouse to the edge of the screen and it scrolls the desktop?01:50
rawrjust xorg.config not xorg config 1 and 201:50
LeeJunFanrawr: no, just xorg.conf01:50
rawrkk01:50
rawrit fits i just like being able to config stuff.01:51
Raz`Anyone recommend a good C++ IDE for Ubuntu? I'm getting errors on every one I try to compile :(01:51
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LeeJunFanrawr: are you trying to make the resolution higher or lower? -ie, higher would mean more room on the desktop - everything smaller, or lower resolution == desktop area smaller, icons and text bigger?01:52
rawrpaste bin ded01:52
rawrahh  higher.01:52
Raz`where do I get package gtk+-2.0?01:54
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LeeJunFanrawr: okay, looking at your file - the Section "Screen" contains the line that defines what resolutions will be used. you have a virtual of 1400 1050, if you resolution is higher than that then you will get the scrolling effect I talked about.01:54
LeeJunFanrawr: but look at your modes line are all the modes your X is configured to use, the leftmost one is what it will boot too.01:54
LeeJunFanrawr: ctrl-alt-+ or crtl-alt- - on your numeric keypad with switch through those listed resolutions.01:55
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LeeJunFanrawr: to change the default resolution it boots in - that one needs to be moved to the front "leftmost" of the modes line.01:55
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SanneRaz`: from your package manager. Search for it with: apt-cache search libgtk2.001:56
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rawrI see01:56
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dekanybody here uses LaTeX?01:58
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Zaireno my girlfriend had a headache lol01:59
rawrI think its good that people help other people.02:00
rawrInsted of relying upon people payed to do it02:00
LeeJunFanthat's kind of what linux is about.02:00
ZaireI would if I could but I myself have a question lol02:00
joschais a backport repo availble for Dapper/Knot?02:00
rawrhumanity for others.02:00
crimsunjoscha: yes, dapper-backports02:00
Zairewhich is does anyone know if its possible to convert a .rpm to a .deb02:01
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crimsunZaire: alien02:01
LeeJunFan!alien02:01
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).02:01
Zairehmmm dangerous ....sounds like my everyday computer use lol thanks crimsun02:01
powermaci've used it, necer had a problem02:02
SanneZaire: but first search the repositories if the package isn't already in the repositories02:02
Zaireit is I just got it with apt lol02:02
Sanneheh02:02
joschathank you crimsun02:02
ZaireI work fast lol02:02
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powermacis there a PDF creater/maker for ubuntu?02:03
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LeeJunFanpowermac: you can print to pdf from pretty much any application.02:04
powermaclike on a mac?02:04
joschaprint - pdfprinter ;)02:05
LeeJunFanpowermac: I dunno....02:05
LeeJunFanpowermac: so openoffice, gimp, inkscape, etc... all pdf creation utils.02:05
powermacmac os x you choose print, then there is an option to save as PDF rather than to print02:05
LeeJunFanpowermac: same on linux.02:05
LeeJunFanat least on kde.02:05
powermacexcelent02:05
joschapowermac: on kde there is a virtual printer which saves the file as an pdf02:05
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[Relic] Hello :)02:06
Sannepowermac: another way is to print to file (*.ps), and then convert it to pdf by ps2pdf02:07
rawrAhhh just rembered why i hated windows today.02:07
rawrThe laggyness....02:08
Zairehow bout its windows that one works for me lol02:08
[Relic] it's not lagging it is just busy since it can't do 2 things at once  :)02:08
rawrIts horrid. so i vandelized a public computers desktop. Winblows Also sucks02:08
Raz`I can't access my USB stick, says only root can mount it. How do I fix that?02:09
Zairewould be funny to change the boot skin to that lol02:09
rawrXD02:09
cr4sh0v3rr1d3LeeJunFan,  know of any quick howtos on ip forwarding and nat?  i can ping back and forth now02:09
joschacrimsun: is the backport directory empty or is just the de.archive..... mirror outdated02:09
powermacRaz: open konsole, go to root (sudo -s)02:10
powermacthen type "konqueror"02:10
Raz`done02:10
LeeJunFancr4sh0v3rr1d3: "sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1" turns on forwarding man sysctl - to set permanently edit /etc/sysctl.conf02:10
powermackonqueror will open with root privledges02:10
rawrwhats the diffrence from kdesu and su -?02:11
crimsunjoscha: it definitely exists and has packages.02:11
rawri use  kdesu all the time.02:11
LeeJunFancr4sh0v3rr1d3: actually you should probably check the how-to's on tldp.org02:11
Jucato!kdesu02:11
ubotuIn KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo02:11
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Raz`I have to do that every time I open it?02:11
powermacthen go find your USB stick mount point and right click on it and choose mount02:11
Raz`I can't set it so that it doesn't need root permission?02:11
rawrI think thers a group for that02:12
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powermacyou hvae to edit the fstab file02:12
powermacnot really sure what to put though!02:12
Sannejoscha: this is my line for dapper backports from the de archive in my sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2401202:13
LeeJunFancr4sh0v3rr1d3: hrm, maybe there isn't much useful info there on iptables after all. anyway iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s [ip of dlink]  -j MASQUERADE02:13
LeeJunFancr4sh0v3rr1d3: will get it going, along with turning on forwarding.02:14
rawryou can learn alot by just watching.........02:14
rawrothers helping others.02:14
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ZaireI learn by breaking it lol02:16
rawrExperince prevents mistakes02:17
rawrbut experise comes from making thouse mistakes02:17
[Relic] unless it is political experience and then it increases them02:17
rawrXD02:17
Zaireso how do you use alien?02:18
rawri have learned that there is 2 things  you must never talk about if not to offend someone02:18
LeeJunFanZaire: man alien02:18
rawrreligion and politics.02:18
LeeJunFanZaire: basically alien -d [rpm file] 02:18
MasterEvil`Laptorawr: and gnome vs kde02:18
Zaireah ic thanks lol02:18
Zaireyea cause kde is obviously superior lol02:19
rawrGnome is good but it just freaks me out.02:19
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MasterEvilAceKD EROX02:19
rawri am like wheres all my setting buttons aahhhhh02:19
Zairegnomes are evil lol02:19
MasterEvilAcealthough i like the orange of gnome02:19
rawrkde owns02:19
dekanyone here uses LaTeX?02:19
ZaireI agree lol02:19
MasterEvilAcecondoms?02:19
dekno02:19
Zaireyeps trojans magnums lol02:20
rawrbut i am thinking about using the thingy for xubuntu02:20
dekthe TeX macros02:20
rawron my old cpu02:20
[Relic] if we can't talk politics and religion; change the subject to how to get a webcam with an omni vision chip set to work in kubuntu  :)02:20
cr4sh0v3rr1d3LeeJunFan,  ok i entered those commands, computer connected through routher cannot route past gateway02:20
cr4sh0v3rr1d3do i need anything special, in hosts, or network?02:21
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LeeJunFancr4sh0v3rr1d3: on a machine that is connected to the dlink - can you ping the IP of eth0 on your linux box?02:21
cr4sh0v3rr1d3LeeJunFan, nope doesnt look like it02:22
joschaSanne: thank you02:22
Zaireoh yea anyone know how to get transparent windows in fluxbox?02:22
cr4sh0v3rr1d3LeeJunFan, might i need a crossover cable02:22
Sannejoscha: you're welcome02:22
cr4sh0v3rr1d3LeeJunFan, this is an older 500mhz ibook02:22
LeeJunFancr4sh0v3rr1d3: what IP is the linux eth0? and what IP did you give the dlink WAN interface?02:22
LeeJunFancr4sh0v3rr1d3: maybe, on the linux box run 'ethtool eth0' and see if it says yes by link detected.02:23
DragnslcrAnybody happen to have the md5sums for the 6.06 DVD isos?02:23
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cr4sh0v3rr1d3LeeJunFan, linux 192.168.10.1 dlink 192.168.10.202:24
cr4sh0v3rr1d3link detected02:24
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LeeJunFancr4sh0v3rr1d3: ok, what IP addresses are in use on the LAN side of the dlink?02:24
cr4sh0v3rr1d3only 1 192.168.100.102:25
cr4sh0v3rr1d3err .0.10002:25
[Relic] does anyone actually know how to get ovamship to function properly and read the USB info from the cwebam and microphone or at least the webcam?02:26
[Relic] ovcamchip  :)02:26
cr4sh0v3rr1d3shoud i change the lan ips the router distributes to a different range?02:26
LeeJunFancr4sh0v3rr1d3: no, shouldn't matter.02:26
rawrI just noticed.................02:26
Zairethe rpm I needed to convert was vmware....why can't people just all get with it and use .deb :S02:26
rawrmy flash don't work i got from easy ubutnu.02:26
rawrthats gay.02:26
cr4sh0v3rr1d3LeeJunFan, yeah thats what i figured..02:27
cr4sh0v3rr1d3hmmmm02:27
LeeJunFancr4sh0v3rr1d3: you should certainly be able to ping the 192.168.10.1 from the machine at 192.168.0.10002:27
LeeJunFancr4sh0v3rr1d3: can you at least ping 192.168.0.1 (I assume that's the dlink's lan addy) from 192.168.0.100?02:28
joschaZaire: vmweare-player is in the repos02:28
joschaor do you need vmware-server?02:28
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cr4sh0v3rr1d3LeeJunFan, ok looks like now it IS pinging02:28
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Zairewell I was gonna use it to try windows but a server app wouldn't be half bad either02:28
LeeJunFancr4sh0v3rr1d3: pinging the linux IP? 192.168.10.1?02:29
cr4sh0v3rr1d3LeeJunFan, yep, its working now02:29
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cr4sh0v3rr1d3can ping linux ip02:29
LeeJunFancr4sh0v3rr1d3: okay, can you get to the internet from it?02:29
cr4sh0v3rr1d3nope, it wont ping domains or other ips02:29
Zairethe one I was trying to get was workstation02:30
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cr4sh0v3rr1d3so close...02:31
LeeJunFancr4sh0v3rr1d3: you tried an IP address or just a host/domain name? we aren't up to trying names yet :)02:31
rawrI take it setting up networks is a pain the the @ss02:31
Zaireyeps lol02:32
LeeJunFanthis is kind of complicated one.02:32
rawrI see02:32
cr4sh0v3rr1d3LeeJunFan,  I tried an ip02:32
cr4sh0v3rr1d3no ips either.02:32
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cr4sh0v3rr1d3:(02:32
Zairenow how do I use vmware player?02:32
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rawrvmware  don't that let you boot windows from linux?02:33
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Zaireany OS you install on it02:33
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rawrI see02:34
Zairesetting a static IP to a server is easy just ....sudo ifconfig <device"eth0"> "IP"02:34
LeeJunFancr4sh0v3rr1d3: on phone, bbiab.02:34
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cr4sh0v3rr1d3LeeJunFan, ok cool thanks02:34
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MasterEvilAceok. what the monkey lover. Firefox is displaying some HUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGE fonts02:36
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rawrtry holding ctrl and moving the scroll wheel02:37
rawrtends to adjust fonts for me at least in firefox.02:38
MasterEvilAceyeah i set the text size to normal02:38
MasterEvilAceit's like.. some pages are normal02:38
rawrthat works.02:38
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MasterEvilAceothers are RIDICULOUS02:38
rawrvery much so02:38
MasterEvilAcegoogle.com fonts are fine. evilavatar.com the text in news articles is HUGE. like 4x as big as firefox in windows02:38
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MasterEvilAcemaybe i should just get used to konqueror02:39
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rawrI tend to\use konqueror more than firefox.02:39
LeeJunFancr4sh0v3rr1d3: okay, well either forwarding isn't working, or iptables isn't. did you run 'sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1' or just edit /etc/sysctl.conf?02:40
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato or Hawkwind are you by any chance werking on Hardware Database for Ubuntu?02:40
Admiral_Chicagoon Edgy02:40
carlosHi, everyone! I am from Brazil and I have a question: How ou where can I find a text about how to use a camcorder as a webcam on linux, especially on kubuntu?02:40
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: nope. I think that's Riddel's project?02:42
cr4sh0v3rr1d3LeeJunFan, neither of those, just entered the iptables commands02:43
cr4sh0v3rr1d3LeeJunFan, could be the problem eh, haha02:43
Admiral_ChicagoJucato, it is, but its not in the repons02:43
Admiral_Chicagorepos*02:44
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: in Edgy?02:44
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato, i needed to grab a package off his page02:44
Admiral_Chicagohttp://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/hwdb/02:45
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: I think that's for Edgy. the hwdb in Dapper is GNOME/GTK-based, afaik02:46
Admiral_Chicagoit is now Kubuntu availbale02:46
LeeJunFancarlos: that kind of depends on the camera itself. Are you connecting to it with firewire or usb?02:46
Admiral_Chicagoof GTK 4 iirc02:46
rawrstrange..... adept don't seem to want to open.....02:46
cr4sh0v3rr1d3LeeJunFan, we have Ips now!02:47
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: hwdb for Kubuntu comes with Edgy.02:47
Admiral_Chicagobase?02:47
Admiral_Chicagonothing sperial needed?02:47
Jucato!hwdb-client-common edgy02:47
ubotuhwdb-client-common: common files for Ubuntu Hardware Database client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6-0ubuntu14 (edgy), package size 80 kB, installed size 292 kB02:47
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carlosI tried do connect on both of them. I tried on firewire and, after this, on usb.02:47
Admiral_Chicagohow do i run it then?02:48
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LeeJunFancr4sh0v3rr1d3: okay, you probably need to set the dlink nameservers to be the same as what is listed in /etc/resolv.conf on your linux routerbox.02:48
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: hold on, starting VMWare02:48
rawrI learned the other day not to try puting hardrives where cd drives go.02:48
LeeJunFancr4sh0v3rr1d3: then it should hand those out via DHCP to the machine on the LAN side of the dlink. you will have to release and renew on the dlink connected computer afterward to get it to update the dns settings.02:48
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: strange, I thought it would be in the menus02:50
LeeJunFancarlos: if the camera is supported as a video device on usb it should automatically work, with firewire you may have better luck - it's been a long time, but there's a video4linux webpage that might help. gimme a sec...02:50
cr4sh0v3rr1d3LeeJunFan, hey man thanks alot, we are up and browsing now02:51
cr4sh0v3rr1d3props to LeeJunFan02:51
carlosLeeJunFan, thank you too much! I shall wait.02:51
rawrYay02:51
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rawrsomeone wins02:51
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rawrgag.02:51
cr4sh0v3rr1d3lol02:51
rawri hope your not both dudes ...02:51
cr4sh0v3rr1d3haha02:52
rawri would have to smack you if so.02:52
lcohenHi all, does anyone know how to get my Dell Fn key working in Kubuntu?02:52
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LeeJunFanthat doesn't really mean anything.02:52
rawrI want a beard.02:53
rawrthus i shave XD02:53
cr4sh0v3rr1d3ehhh i stopped shaving a couple years ago02:53
rawryay shlops02:53
carlosLeeJunFan, my camcorder is a JVC 93. I do not know if it is suported as a video4linux device. How can I discover about?02:54
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LeeJunFancarlos: http://linux.bytesex.org/v4l2/02:54
Blissexcarlos: most if not all DV devices are supported, and most recent camcorders are DV.02:54
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LeeJunFancarlos: I think there's a driver that will get the firewire to act as a video4linux device, but I can't remember. I could swear I did it once.02:55
LeeJunFancarlos, Blissex: that's what I was thinking, if it's firewire it might just work if you modprobe dv ?02:56
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ubuntuhola!02:56
BlissexLeeJunFan: allegedly :-)02:56
BlissexLeeJunFan: and it would be 'modprobe dv1394'02:56
ubuntuhbiviuyigihjuijum02:57
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ubuntuoooo02:57
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ubuntuoooo02:57
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LeeJunFanstop02:57
JucatoHawkwind: ping02:57
ubuntuok02:57
ubuntuhi02:57
Jucatonvm02:57
Jucatoplease don't flood the channel02:57
ubuntuoka02:58
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DaNaAealguien habla espaol por aki ???02:58
Hawkwind!es02:59
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:59
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LeeJunFancarlos: looks like a no go: http://www.linux1394.org/video1394.php03:02
rawryummmmm03:02
LeeJunFancarlos: There are no Video4Linux drivers for Digital Camera video or DV on ieee1394. Instead, one must use a user-space program in conjunction with the vloopback Video4Linux driver.03:02
rawrsteak sandwhich with yoshima cracked peper sauce and potatos03:02
rawrtenderness,.....03:04
refhello all03:06
refdoes anyone tried to run pptpconfig in edgy?03:06
rawrgag adept is not working......03:07
rawr!paste03:07
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:07
rawroh wait03:07
rawryea il pastebin it'03:07
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rawrhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2404503:08
carlosLeeJunFan and Blissex, as a matter of fact, I would like to use my camcorder on programs like AMSN 0.95 or Kopete. I know that they are used well by webcam. I myself have used a webcam, but I would like to use my camcorder because it is better than a simple webcam. Is it possible?03:08
Jucatorawr: why are you in root?03:09
Jucatodon't login as root, then run "kdesu adept"03:09
rawryea i di run a root shell03:09
HawkwindYou're not supposed to03:09
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rawril give the error messagve when not in root03:10
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rawrhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2404603:11
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LeeJunFancarlos: judging by the what it says on the link I posted above - it isn't. :(03:12
rufsketch1_hey all03:12
Jucatorawr: ignore those errors03:12
LeeJunFanunless you can get the videoloopback thing working they mention.03:13
Jucatorawr: Adept still launches, right?03:13
rawrits not running though.03:13
rufsketch1_i was trying to set up a printer on a newly installed kubuntu system03:13
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rawrnope03:13
rufsketch1_using CUPS03:13
rufsketch1_but it asks for a username and password via a popup window03:13
rufsketch1_as there is no root in kubuntu03:13
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rufsketch1_what am i to put in these dialogs?03:13
rawradept installer dos though03:13
rawrbut adept its self don't launch03:13
Jucatorawr: even when launching from the command line? or only when launching from the K Menu?03:14
rawri have tryed both.03:14
rawril try k menu again though03:14
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rawrnope no laucnh03:15
rufsketch1_can anyone be of any help?03:15
rufsketch1_!CUPS03:15
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows03:15
Jucatohm.. that's strange. but I dn't think it has anything to do with those error messages03:15
rawrverry strange03:16
rawrperhaps editing xorg has something to do with ti03:17
rufsketch1_hellloooooooooo?03:17
rufsketch1_can anyone help me with cups?03:17
SnakeHELOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo03:17
rufsketch1_snake:  i just installed kubuntu03:17
rufsketch1_and i'm slightly annoyed by the lack of a root account03:18
rawrIf someone  is going to help you they will.03:18
Snakerufsketch1_, sudo -s .... enjoy...03:18
rufsketch1_i'm trying to install an hp printer using cups03:18
Snakerufsketch1_, but I dont know anything about cups :(03:18
rufsketch1_snake: i can't, cups is a GUI app03:18
Admiral_Chicagorufsketch1_, did you try system setting03:18
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rufsketch1_Admiral_Chicago: what do you mean?03:19
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Admiral_Chicagolook in system settings -- printer03:19
rufsketch1_no no03:19
rufsketch1_i need to install it first03:20
rufsketch1_but when cups asks me for a username and password03:20
rufsketch1_via a popup window03:20
rufsketch1_what am i supposed to type in it03:20
ironfroggywhat is the best way to get python 2.5 installed properly? im guessing its not in apt for a while?03:20
rufsketch1_normally i would type in root as user name and the root pass03:20
rufsketch1_but those don't exist so.....03:20
Admiral_Chicagorufsketch1_, kubuntu can install it automatically03:20
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rawrahh well i am bored think i may just boot windows to play C&C generals03:20
rufsketch1_well i'm not familiar with that process, and i'd like to know for future referance how it's done03:21
rawrNIght everyone.03:21
rufsketch1_Admiral_Chicago:  is it even possible?03:21
Admiral_Chicagorufsketch1_, to do whatL03:21
Zairehow do you get transparent windows in fluxbox?03:21
rufsketch1_to gain root access via a gui when asked for the root name and pass?03:22
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Admiral_Chicagorufsketch1_, yes, type kdesu <command> in the "run command" in K menu03:22
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rufsketch1_Admiral_Chicago: thats not what i mean03:23
rufsketch1_an actual window pops up, it has a box for my username, and one for my password03:23
rufsketch1_it wants the root username03:23
rufsketch1_and the root password03:23
rufsketch1_what do i type here?03:23
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__mikemsudo passwd root03:24
rufsketch1___mikem: where do i type that?03:25
rufsketch1_in the username box?03:25
__mikemyou type that in a shell03:25
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LeeJunFanrufsketch1_: no , at a shell - konsole. To set a root password.03:26
rufsketch1_oh03:26
rufsketch1_cool03:26
rufsketch1_so that will make a root password and account?03:26
LeeJunFanrufsketch1_: yes, the account is there, it's just disabled, setting a password with the passwd command will activate it.03:26
Zairels03:27
rufsketch1_oic03:27
rufsketch1_kool03:27
Zairedamn wrong window03:27
rufsketch1_thnx03:27
Zairelol03:27
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LeeJunFanalthough I've not needed root enabled for anything, you really should avoid it.03:27
LeeJunFanowell.03:27
LeeJunFansee - give a guy a root account and "Connection Reset"!03:28
Jucatolol03:28
Jucatomorning Hobbsee!03:28
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LeeJunFanUgh, well if Hobbsee is here, I'm leaving....03:29
LeeJunFan:) no really - I gotta run to the store :p03:29
Hobbseehey Jucato03:29
Hobbsee:P03:29
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draikJucato!03:31
Jucatohi draik!! :)03:31
Ekkostorm_Would this be a place I can get some support?03:31
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Admiral_ChicagoEkkostorm, it sure is03:31
EkkostormK... This is going to sound noob, but it is the only thing in Kubuntu I haven't figured out how to do...03:32
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EkkostormI have a scanner, a Canon FB630P to be exact.  I can't figure out how to get it installed...03:32
EkkostormI looked around in Kooka, and could find anything...03:32
EkkostormAm I missing something?03:32
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Ekkostormor is there documentation I'm missing?03:34
Jucatowb Hobbsee03:34
Admiral_ChicagoEkkostorm, i have no idea03:35
Admiral_Chicagoyou try the forums?03:35
EkkostormLOL...03:35
EkkostormI've been combing the forums...03:35
EkkostormSallright...03:35
EkkostormI'll figure it out...03:36
cpk2Ekkostorm: does it show up is lsusb?03:36
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cpk2assuming its connected by usb03:36
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Ekkostormoops... just threw a term past me I don't know...03:37
Ekkostormand it is actually a parallel scanner03:37
Ekkostormcan I run lsusb from the terminal?03:38
cpk2Ekkostorm: yes03:39
cpk2but lsusb is for usb devices03:39
cpk2i suppose lshw might show what is in the parallel port03:39
Ekkostormoh... okay... I see the usb devices..03:39
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Kr4t05!games03:40
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php03:40
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cpk2if it at least shows up in lshw then you will have something to go from03:41
cpk2if you dont even pick up the scanner then i would imagine that it might be quite a bit of work03:41
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Thorrn4hello everyone, I have a little problem, I hid the top of the konqueror menu that says: FILE and HELP and such, how can I get it back?03:41
Ekkostormhmm...03:42
Ekkostormit's interesting.... I switched to Kubuntu from Mandriva because Kubuntu is easier to use...  But installing the scanner was the one thing Mandriva didn't have a problem with...03:42
cpk2Ekkostorm: you might just not know the "Easy way" =P03:43
abattoirThorrn4: Ctrl+M03:44
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EkkostormAnd the hunt goes on...03:45
Ekkostorm:)03:45
Thorrn4ty so much abattoir!!03:46
cpk2the problem might be because its on the parallel port03:46
abattoirThorrn4: np :)03:46
cpk2i mean who uses parallel these days!03:46
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Thorrn4I was wondering abattoirdo u kno a repo that has xchat?03:46
Thorrn4are there other repos that can be added?03:47
Zaireugh parallel gross lol03:47
Thorrn4I just installed it03:47
EkkostormLOL... I know... I just haven't gotten around to getting a usb scanner yet...03:47
cpk2!repos03:48
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:48
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EkkostormHere's something... does anyone have any experience with sane?03:50
cpk2!sane03:50
ubotusane: scanner graphical frontends. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.14-1 (dapper), package size 103 kB, installed size 324 kB03:50
cpk2you would still need to get it to recognize your scanner probably03:51
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EkkostormIf you have the driver portion, you may be able to install it...03:51
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cpk2well there you go03:52
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ParkotronWhere can I find the w32codecs .deb? The cipherfunk.org repository seems to be dead?03:56
Parkotron!w32codecs03:56
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:56
NeoSaki!xorg03:57
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:57
NeoSaki!xorgconf03:57
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NeoSakianyone know where the xorg.conf is located in kubuntu?03:57
NeoSaki!xorg.conf03:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xorg.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:57
cpk2NeoSaki: /etc/X1103:58
NeoSakithx03:59
NeoSakii was using /etc/x1103:59
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tony_hi04:00
tony_dose anyone got experiance with KXDOCKER ??04:00
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Xanithcould someone possibly walk me through how to mount my digital camera?04:08
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ZaireI would but I can't remember how I mounted mine lol04:10
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Xanithlol well ur no help...04:11
Xanithhaha just kiddin04:11
Thorrn4Is there a kubuntu repo that has mplayer?04:11
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Jucato!mplayer04:12
ubotumplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile04:12
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.04:12
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kutanCan someone tell me how to install "make"? :\04:12
Jucatokutan: install the package "build-essential"04:12
kutanIt's you again!04:13
kutanlol04:13
Jucatoheh04:13
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Zairestart menu thingy kinfo center and devices takes you to the area I think you need to be in04:13
Xanithso anyone know how to mount my digital camera?04:13
JucatoZaire: start menu thingy = K Menu :P04:13
Zaire!usb04:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:14
ZaireI can't remember the command for mounting usb devices either :S04:14
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Zairecan anyone tell me how I can run vmware player once its installed?04:16
JucatoZaire: it should be added to the "start menu thingy". if it isn't, try running the command "kbuildsycoca --incremental" and check again04:17
Thorrn4Jucato: I cant find out where to d/l it04:18
JucatoXanith: I'm not absolutely sure, but I thought that digital cameras, like mp3 players, are automounted as USB Mass Storage Devices04:18
JucatoThorrn4: the links don't mention it?04:18
Xanithwell like i plugged it in and it said theres a new device or something04:19
Xanithi clicked open in new window and nothing came up...04:19
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ZaireI get unexpected argument incremental04:19
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JucatoXanith: try to go to "media:/" in Konqueror (or System Menu > Storage Media in the Panel)04:19
tony_is there plugin as FLASH PLAYER for ubuntu 64 ??04:20
NeoSakitony_ no04:20
tony_:S04:20
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NeoSakiAnyone know if Edgy has better ATI support abilities?04:20
JucatoZaire: are you sure you used "--incremental"04:20
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Zaireyep04:20
tony_I thought there was something like flashjava or something ?04:20
Thorrn4Jucato: no, it doesnt04:21
JucatoZaire: anyway, ignore the error messages and try looking into K Menu again, under System, I think04:21
tony_anyone with experiance with kxdocker ??? :)04:21
JucatoThorrn4: it says there " Beginning with Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake, you no longer need to match your CPU to the proper MPlayer package. Simply install the mplayer package from the  Multiverse repository.04:21
Zairenope nothing is system or utilities04:21
JucatoZaire: oh well, "vmware-player" should do it. btw, where did you install it from? Adept or apt-get?04:22
Zaireapt04:22
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Thorrn4Jucato: I enabled ALL of the repos and its still not there04:22
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Jucato!multiverse04:22
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:22
JucatoThorrn4: did you add the multiverse repo? (it's not written there by default, much less disabled)04:23
Ekkostormanyone know what cc is?  Context is while trying to run a ./configure04:23
Jucatos/disabled/enabled04:23
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Martijn81anyone know of the existence of a tool that that backups all Kontakt plus kgpg settings and data?04:23
shegmanwhy are my kde settings reset everytime i reboot? and how can i fix it?04:23
Thorrn4ty Jucato!!04:24
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EkkostormWow, this place suddenly got busy...04:25
Xanithis there anyway to access a samba client on the network?04:26
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shegmansmb:/ in konqueror perhaps04:26
Zairehmmm my vmware problem stems from all the vm packages but vmware player itself got install cause something is broken :S04:26
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kutanSee yas04:27
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EkkostormI am trying to run a configure before compiling a driver and I get this error message "configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH"04:28
EkkostormAny ideas?04:28
ZaireThere was an error committing changes. There was possibly a problem downloading some packages, or else the commit would break packages.04:29
Ekkostormwell that sux...04:30
shegmanEkkostorm seems to me that you have a c-compiler installed that doesn't work with your program04:30
Zairewhat does that error I got mean?04:31
Ekkostormhmm...  thats kind of odd...04:31
abattoir!b-e04:31
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)04:31
abattoirEkkostorm: ^^^04:31
abattoirEkkostorm: and install build-essential04:31
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pierrethabattoir: !04:32
abattoirhi pierreth :)04:32
shegmanwhy are my kde settings reset everytime i reboot? and how can i fix it?04:32
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pierrethabattoir: You know, I sold my Mac and I made KDE my home04:32
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abattoirpierreth: the Mac mini?04:33
pierrethabattoir: yes04:34
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Ash-FoxMy Mac had too many hardware problems, and the OS annoyed the hell out of me. The only thing I can say MacOSX had, was pretty fonts.04:34
abattoirpierreth: nice :)04:34
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pierrethAsh-Fox: Yes the Mac is very pretty04:35
Ash-FoxI didn't like the interface.04:35
pierrethAsh-Fox: I like it a lot by I like KDE too04:35
Jucatopretty pretty interface... :P04:35
pierrethWhat I miss in KDE is the Drag&drop04:36
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pierrethI also miss some shortcut04:36
pierrethLike hide others04:37
Jucatopierreth: XP has the ultimate drag&drop: drag your computer to the window and drop it :P04:37
Ash-FoxI just remember the constant issues. No, Safari could not upload ftp files, no finder could view hidden files on demand. No, in order to change your settings you have to edit super secret config files in xml, and if you make a syntax error, macosx may refuse to even load aqua.04:37
pierrethJucato: lol04:37
Ash-FoxOh, and of course restart04:37
pierrethThe complexity is too much hidden04:38
pierrethBy on the Mac my mouse works but not really well in KDE04:38
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pierrethThe Mac has bundle too04:39
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Ash-FoxSeriously, what was hard about putting a "view hidden files" menu item in finder? Would that be considered not user friendly, as much as having to type some long command I have to keep looking up in the terminal, then killing all finder proccesses and restarting it...04:39
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chacaff04:39
pierrethI hope Linux will have bundles one day04:39
Ash-FoxBundles of what? Trial software like ms office and photoshop?04:40
pierrethAsh-Fox: You use PathFinder to replace the Finder04:40
pierrethYou can use PathFinder instead04:40
Zairegod theres nothing worse then having a crap load of useless software04:40
pierrethThe Mac has self countain applications04:40
Jucatoand you can use Firefox instead of Safari :P04:40
Ash-FoxThe mac had loads of broken GNU utilities too04:41
pierrethYou don't have to put icons on your apps on the Mac04:41
Zairemac is going to be different to cause its unix based04:41
Ash-Foxpierreth, please note, I did end up using pathfinder.. but come on.. :)04:41
abattoiraah, a mac debate :)04:41
pierrethlol04:42
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Jucatolol04:42
ZaireI think I would be tempted to buy a mac book lol04:42
pierrethI think that some things are nice on Mac04:42
Ash-FoxI mean, in the end I had KDE running under fink (gives you apt-get under mac)04:42
Zaireits a sexy interface04:42
intelikeypierreth icon ?    what's that?   you must be talking about that pointy clicky thingy04:42
Zaireoh yea how do you remove deb packahes in cli?04:43
pierrethintelikey: On the Mac an application is a bundle, a folder, the folder has the icon04:43
LeeJunFanbah, the only interface you need looks like this: junfan@jkd:~$04:43
pierrethYou don't have to edit the K menu04:43
intelikeyZaire sudo apt-get remove blah04:43
pierrethYou don't know an editor at all04:44
Ash-FoxOh! I love that bug in apache package that comes on the macosx cd, where it only sends something like the first 32kb of files. Then I try compiling apache2 from source using apache.org's sourcecode. Which created a interesting scenario of my entire desktop starting to freezing up whenever I'd have 3+ people downloading off it :P04:44
Zaireit wasn't an apt grab though just a .deb I downloaded as an rpm and converted lol04:44
Kr4t05LeeJunFan: Keep in mind all of the ex-Win98 users that will be exodusting over here.04:44
Kr4t05:P04:44
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intelikeyZaire shouldn't matter04:44
Jucatoexodusting... :)04:44
LeeJunFanKr4t05: I'd rather not. :) Let MS keep the headaches.04:45
pierrethWell, now I am on opensource, if I don't like something, I'll change it04:45
Ash-FoxZaire, theres GNUstep availible for Kubuntu if you're looking for a similar interfaces and applications that are on macosx.04:45
pierrethGNUStep does not give the Finder back04:46
Ash-FoxFor that I am greatful :)04:46
Zairethe package I tried converting was vmware workstation and Im trying to remove it cause I think it broke vmware player04:46
pierrethBut I like Konqueror04:46
pierrethI missing Camino04:47
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Zaireblah konqueror is gross firefox is the best04:47
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nimnrodwhere do i modify the bootloader list?04:47
Ash-FoxI like konqueror for everything that isn't webbrowsing at the moment.04:47
intelikeymeh ff stinks  konq is good04:47
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Zaireif its so good then why can't you go back using the backspace key -_-04:48
intelikeynimnrod /boot/grub/menu.lst04:48
nimnrodintelikey: thanks04:48
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intelikeyZaire you can04:48
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pierrethI have a shell question04:49
aurelien_hi04:49
Zairenot from my experience04:49
intelikeyZaire it's configurable04:49
pierrethif I do echo *04:49
intelikeyit does what you tell it to.04:49
Jucatopierreth: !ask04:49
pierrethis there a way to make echo called for each args?04:49
ZaireI still don't like it....the mmorpg game I play has a hide option and I keep getting knocked out in the open on konq but not on firefox04:49
intelikeyZaire your question might better have been 'why isn't it set that way by default?'04:50
Ash-Foxpierreth, I think it's called xargs04:50
intelikeyand that i couldn't answer.04:50
JucatoZaire: what mmorpg? (I'm interested...)04:50
pierrethAsh-Fox: no it is not04:50
ZaireOverlordslegacy.com04:50
JucatoZaire: btw, have you tried changing the keyboard shortcuts for Back?04:51
Ash-FoxI recall using xargs to create a script that called a command for each argument04:51
Zairecause it gives you the option to hide or not which if your big enough then you don't have to04:51
Zairenope cause I just like firefox better personally04:51
pierrethAsh-Fox: How?04:51
Jucatoah ok04:51
JucatoZaire: I'm a Konqueror lover, but lately, I'm having some quarrels with KHTML04:51
pierrethI like to have description and keywords for my urls04:52
ZaireI just can't get my server to display my index html file lol04:52
pierrethso prefer Firefox04:52
Jucatopierreth: description and keywords?04:53
pierrethBut Camino was the best with the drag & drop of urls04:53
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pierrethJucato: ask the properties on an url with Firefox04:53
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ActiveXhow do i install activex plugin for mozilla?04:54
Jucatoheh.. I don't know that...04:54
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ActiveXi typed in activex in the repositories but it was a no show04:54
Jucatoyikes!! ActiveX.....04:54
Zaireactually the message I get from my server when I try to access the httpd from firefox and other browsers says I don't have permission04:54
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ActiveX??04:54
Jucatono activex here, afaik04:54
ActiveXafaik?04:54
JucatoAs Far As I Know04:54
ActiveXhow do i play music on certain websites?04:54
pierrethJucato: it is very to manage urls04:55
miyakoI'm trying to set up a simple proxy on my machine that I can connect to from work, squid seems like massive overkill for what I want, since basically I just want something that will forward along http requests without bothering about any caching or filtering or anything.  Anyone have any ideas what packages I might look into?04:55
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ActiveXand how come my amarok won't play mp3s?04:55
JucatoActiveX: because you need the codec to play: libxine-extracodecs04:55
Jucato!mp304:55
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:55
Jucatomost websites don't use ActiveX to play music. if they do, then... yeck...04:56
pierrethActiveX: Amarok will ask you if you want to insall mp3 support04:56
Jucatopierreth: only with the later versions of Amarok04:56
LeeJunFanright - which didn't come with dapper.04:56
pierrethso upgrade04:56
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ActiveXwhen will it ask me to install mp3 support pierreth?04:57
Zairethere now all of my aps have mp3 support lol04:57
Jucatointelikey: heh. you're not normal like the rest of us :P04:57
JucatoActiveX: just install "libxine-extracodecs" and you'll be fine04:57
intelikeyJucato are the rest of you normal ????04:57
intelikey:)04:57
Ash-Foxpierreth, I'm sorry, the echo for each argument using: echo * would work. I was thinking of a more complicated method using xargs for some reason.04:57
pierrethActiveX: When you have installed a set of plugins04:57
ZaireIm not normal Im canadian eh lol04:57
Jucatopierreth: a set?04:57
ActiveXJucato: libxine-extracodecs doesn't show up in my repositories when I type it in.. ?04:58
pierrethJucato: I don't know...04:58
Zaireno worries it works automatically once its install by apt04:58
JucatoActiveX: you need to enable the "multiverse" repository04:58
Jucato!multiverse > ActiveX04:58
pierrethMake a search with Google and you will find04:58
Zaireoh and that to04:58
Zairejust enable all of your repositories04:58
Jucatowell, maybe not all... :P04:58
ZaireI did lol04:59
ActiveXi think they are enabled..04:59
JucatoZaire: heh.. even dapper-backports?04:59
ActiveXthe ones that say multiverse are enabled04:59
Zaireyep...that bad?04:59
JucatoActiveX: well, you have to add this extra one. follow that link that was PM'ed to you04:59
Zaireenable universe aswell04:59
JucatoZaire: of course not04:59
ActiveXok04:59
JucatoZaire: if you need them, they're good04:59
ActiveXthere are 5 links, which link?04:59
Jucatoif you don't, they're added baggage05:00
Jucato!multiverse05:00
ActiveX4 links05:00
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:00
JucatoActiveX: ^^^^05:00
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pierrethAsh-Fox: i will test it05:00
intelikeyJucato i've decided.  none of you are normal.  you're just insane in a different way than me.   i specialize  :)05:00
Zairewhy is it https?05:00
JucatoZaire: secure HTTP, afaik05:01
pierrethAsh-Fox: it does not work05:01
LeeJunFanso the NSA doesn't know you're looking for help with kubuntu.05:01
Ash-Foxpierreth, it does in bash.05:01
ZaireI know what https is just curious as to why its used for those sites thats all05:01
Jucatolol05:01
nimnrodwhy the highest resolution i have is 1024*768?05:01
pierrethAsh-Fox: echo is called one time with all the args05:01
JucatoZaire: um.. for security purposes? :P05:01
Zaire-_-05:02
intelikeyyes https == secure http (hyper text transport protocal)05:02
pierrethAsh-Fox: I am in bash05:02
Ash-Foxpierreth, uh... * should should execute a command per file in that directory05:02
omarhello I am trying to share a folder from a windows machine, and I am using this: sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.20/trc ~/trc -o urd=omar, it used to work in kubuntu but know that I have ubuntu doesn't work, I got this error: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.1.20/trc;   missing codepage or other error;  In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try;  dmesg | tail  or so05:02
Jucatoi thought it was Transfer Protocol05:02
Ash-Foxpierreth, if you want to split up arguments, pipe it to xargs05:02
pierrethAsh-Fox: I have a test script to check that05:02
intelikeytransfer==transport  meh  no matter05:02
Zaireyes hyper text transfer protocol secure by use of secure ssl05:03
pierrethAsh-Fox: xargs does the same05:03
LeeJunFanfor x in * ; do xargs [blah blah]  ; done05:03
Ash-FoxDid you even set any paramters to it?05:03
JucatoZaire: those pages are https because you can send info to those pages (editing/logging in/etc)05:03
Zaireah ic05:03
pierrethAsh-Fox: I will pastbin OK?05:03
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Ash-Foxpierreth, I'm going to bed since it's 5am.05:03
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omarhello I am trying to share a folder from a windows machine, and I am using this: sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.20/trc ~/trc -o urd=omar, it used to work in kubuntu but know that I have ubuntu doesn't work, I got this error: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.1.20/trc;   missing codepage or other error;  In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try;  dmesg | tail  or so05:04
pierrethAsh-Fox: OK05:04
JucatoAsh-Fox: somewhere in Europe/Asia?05:04
slashhey anyone know how to install the gcc05:04
Zairedamn my torrent keeps dropping in and out :S05:04
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Ash-FoxJucato, Poland at the moment :P05:04
Zairesudo apt-get install gcc05:04
Jucatoslash: install "build-essential"05:04
JucatoZaire: err...05:04
intelikeyslash sudo apt-get install build-essential05:05
JucatoAsh-Fox: heh I guessed it would be somewhere there :)05:05
Vaniqueczesc Ash-Fox05:05
pierrethSomeone else for my script question?05:05
Vanique;] 05:05
Zaireor that works to lol05:05
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Ash-FoxCzesc Vanique, nie jestem Polak ;)05:05
omarhello I am trying to share a folder from a windows machine, and I am using this: sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.20/trc ~/trc -o urd=omar, it used to work in kubuntu but know that I have ubuntu doesn't work, I got this error: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.1.20/trc;   missing codepage or other error;  In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try;  dmesg | tail  or so, please I need help05:05
Zaireand what Im trying to get 6766 snes roms lol05:05
Vaniquea ktz wic jestes ?;] 05:05
pierreththis chat is too full for me05:06
Ash-Foxomar, you need to install smbmount05:06
ActiveXJucato: I enabled the multiverse for deb and deb-src, i tried finding libxine-extracodecs but it didn't have it.05:06
omarAsh-Fox: how to do that?, apt-get???05:06
miyakoZaire, I assume you own all 6766 snes games and are doing this purely for backup reasons?05:06
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Ash-Foxomar, yeah, pretty much.05:06
Zairewhy?05:06
JucatoActiveX: did you click on "Fetch Updates" first before trying to look?05:07
ActiveXJucato: yes05:07
omarAsh-Fox: I am getting this error: E: Couldn't find package smbmount05:07
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intelikeyZaire cause i don't want to have to do the paper work on you.05:07
Zaireanyway is there a command to remove .deb's?05:07
JucatoActiveX: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ? please use pastebin05:07
Jucato!pastebin05:07
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:07
omarAsh-Fox: I used apt-get install smbmount05:07
Ash-Foxomar... fine.. let me look in the repository05:07
JucatoZaire: installed .debs?05:07
intelikeyZaire yes.  apt-get remove05:08
Jucatoor that :P05:08
Zairenah Im just getting the ones I do have actually which is more like 13 but a few are hard to find05:08
omarAsh-Fox: you mean the pastebin right?05:08
LeeJunFanomar: samba-client05:08
slashi get an error when i type sudo apt-get install build-essential into console05:08
LeeJunFanomar: or maybe smbfs05:08
Ash-Foxomar, apt-get isntall smbfs05:08
ZaireI have a few favs that I want to play05:09
Ash-Foxbah LeeJunFan beat me05:09
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ActiveXJucato: where is /etc/apt/sources.list?05:09
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slashwhere do u type apt-get?05:09
JucatoActiveX: in /etc/apt/05:09
LeeJunFan:)05:09
Zairelol console window lol05:09
Dr_Willisheh heh...05:09
Jucatoslash: in Konsole05:09
intelikeyslash konsole05:09
onehi guys, back to linux again finally, can't get adobe flash to install...05:10
Dr_Willisfirst sign of "its going to be a long night on irc" is when someone asks where to type a command in at. :)05:10
omarAsh-Fox: nop05:10
StrudelNinjaHey, I wanna do my ACT online prep but it wants me to have Windows or Mac. What's the easiest way to fix this? I don't know how to install firefox in wine (I tried but I don't think it worked)05:10
intelikeyor in your irc client if you like...  /exec apt-cache search john05:10
ActiveXJucato: where do i get the etc/apt i hve no idea05:10
Dr_WillisStrudelNinja,  why do you need to install firefox in wine?05:10
Dr_WillisStrudelNinja,  install opera and have it identify as Internetexplorer is one way.05:10
Zaireone of my fav games for the snes is ultimate mortal combat 3 but my cousin somehow managed to erase the cartridge :S05:11
StrudelNinjaI figured that would make it think I was on windows? I don't know05:11
JucatoActiveX: it's a directory, you browse it in Konqueror05:11
omarAsh-Fox: http://pastebin.com/79037305:11
JucatoStrudelNinja: have you tried changing Konqueror's browser identification?05:11
Ash-Foxomar, apt-get install smbfs05:11
Ash-FoxGreat.. pastebin is taking so long05:12
intelikeyoh ActiveX be advised  / in linux  is the equivelent of  C:\  in M$05:12
Ash-FoxWell, it's not loading, g'night.05:12
Jucatointelikey: rawr.. forgot that one.. T_T05:12
Zaireone of these days Im gonna have to get on e-bay and find me a new snes since my cous also fried that :S05:12
Dr_Willistime for some Linux fundamental guides I think. :P05:13
StrudelNinjaHow would I do that?05:13
Dr_WillisZaire,  heh - i just play the games on the pc with the emulators05:13
Dr_WillisStrudelNinja,  do what?05:13
omarAsh-Fox: done05:13
StrudelNinjachange Konqueror's browser identification05:13
JucatoStrudelNinja: go to the website, then in the Tools menu, choose Change Browser Identification05:13
ActiveXJucato: i sent it05:13
Dr_Willislook in the menus/settings :)05:14
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omarAsh-Fox: now?05:14
StrudelNinjaaah, I found it05:14
ActiveXnow what?05:14
StrudelNinjalet me try05:14
Ash-Foxomar, now it should work05:14
ActiveXits under thebigeis05:14
JucatoActiveX: what's the link?05:14
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Dr_Willisi never noticed it in konqueror heh.05:14
ZaireI would like to but my google foo for finding rom sites is rusty and I have had this itch to play some of my old snes games and haven't been able to05:14
kuzmasterhey all05:14
Dr_WillisZaire,  torrents man... torrents.. *#*@*@ the rom sites. :P or use newsgroups05:14
ActiveXJucato: oh hey.. it doesn't have multiverse next to them05:14
kuzmasterdoes anyone know of a good N64 emulator for kubuntu?05:14
ActiveXJucato: i type it in next to universe and click enter, fetch updates, and that's it, right?05:15
Dr_Willisall the rom sites make ya jump through so many lame hoops.. and then flood you with XXX popups.05:15
JucatoActiveX: exactly :)05:15
JucatoDr_Willis: not if you know reliable sites... :P05:15
intelikeykuzmaster i don't know how good.  but there is one in the repos.  apt-cache search emulator05:15
Zairekind of a to bad cause the game companies could make a fortune if they brought a bunch of classics out of the works05:15
ActiveXJucato: well that's what i did, and when i do fetch updates, multiverse is erased05:15
Dr_WillisJucato,  torrents made my emulator needs much easier. :)05:15
JucatoActiveX: you didn't click on Apply at the bottom after you made the changes05:16
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ActiveXJucato: ahh i see, that's helpful05:16
JucatoDr_Willis: and KTorrent will probably make it easier because you can choose which of the ROMS you have05:16
ZaireI can see that cause like neo geo games can be over a grand sometimes05:16
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Dr_WillisJucato,  exactly! - unless the idiots package them in huge Rar packs. :P05:16
Jucatough...05:16
kuzmasterintelikey, thanx05:16
Zaireyea I hate that05:16
Dr_WillisJucato,  whice ive seen done way too many time on newsgroups05:16
Dr_Willisor as iso images05:16
Jucatoor worse, CCD...05:17
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kuzmasterand also, a good program for mounting iso images?05:17
StrudelNinjaI changed it to IE6 on XP, FF on XP, IE5 on 2000, etc and it's still telling me I need Windows or Mac. Should I try Opera?05:17
Zairewhich is the case with the 6700 roms I have to go through delete the unnecessary just to get the ones I have05:17
Dr_Williswell with the Nintindo Wii  - you are supposed to be able to Legally 'buy' the old nes/snes/n64 games and play them on it.05:17
omarAsh-Fox:  thanx so much, I really appreciate it05:17
Zairesweet05:17
JucatoStrudelNinja: even after refreshing the page?05:17
StrudelNinjayeah05:17
StrudelNinjaI even closed the window just to check05:18
ZaireI hear the new systems flagship game is duckhunt 205:18
JucatoStrudelNinja: hm... it's one of those smarter sites then...05:18
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JucatoZaire: I don't think installing opera would make a difference05:18
Dr_WillisZaire,  ive only heard of the sports games  for it so far. and a new zelda game05:18
Jucatoerr... sorry Zaire05:18
Zairenp lol05:18
JucatoStrudelNinja: I don't think installing opera would make a difference05:18
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StrudelNinjawell this sucks05:18
=== Jucato <3 Nintendo...
JucatoStrudelNinja: you could install wine then ies4linux05:19
Zairebah zelda has been over worked and the gamecube one was crap ......link looked like he was on drugs or something lol05:19
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travisok, i have a question folks, how do you turn off the sleep mode option on kubuntu? i was searching on the net without any happening and looked unders screen save options but tnothing still05:19
oneCAN ANYBODY TELL ME the best flash player05:19
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StrudelNinjaok, I'll try it05:19
Jucatotravis: try System Settings > Display > Power Savings tab?05:19
intelikeyJucato i was past the age when nintendo was invented.05:19
Jucatointelikey: that says a lot :P05:20
Zairelol05:20
Zaireclassic nes I still have one and working lol05:20
Dr_Willis!flash05:20
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:20
intelikeybut i have played nes games some.05:20
Makro___________i `m getting disconnected from the net at random lapsus of time, if in wondows all is fine i have to asume that there is something wrong with my pppoe config, any suggestions?05:20
Jucatoone: there's only one flash player available for Ubuntu, afaik. flashplugin-nonfree05:20
travisah, thanks jucato :-) your a life saver05:20
Jucatobtw, Nintendo was invented? :P05:21
Jucatotravis: no problem05:21
intelikeyZaire yeah my daughter still has one.  i fixed from parts.05:21
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kuzmasterMakro___________, get broadband. dial-up support is a bit funny in linux05:21
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LeeJunFankuzmaster: pppoe not ppp05:21
=== Jucato misses our old Nintendo Family Computer...
intelikeyJucato as much as the atuomobile was invented.05:22
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Jucatoheh05:22
omarI can't heard mp3 why??05:22
brandon_oh no05:22
kuzmasterLeeJunFan,.... ummm.... yes...... i knew that.................05:22
LeeJunFanpppoe is over ethernet - ie - not dialup.05:22
Jucatoomar: you need to install the codec for it05:22
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travisi am surprised with kubuntu.  With regular Ubuntu i had to install all these codecs to view avi files, but it appears kubuntu already installs those for you, cause it plays avis instantly05:22
brandon_I just downloaded and installed Flight Gear Flight Simulator but how do I open it to play it?05:22
omarjucato: how to do that?05:23
kuzmastertravis, have you installed vlc?05:23
Jucatoomar: you need "libxine-extracodecs". you need to enable "multiverse" to get that05:23
travisno, but i use Kaffiene05:23
Jucato!multiverse05:23
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:23
travisapparantly it works05:23
Jucatoomar: ^^^05:23
kuzmasterohhhhh, you should use vls05:23
kuzmastervlc**05:23
kuzmasterits the best05:23
Jucatodifferent strokes for different brushes05:23
brandon_how do I play flightgear?05:23
travisis it?  It won't flicker will it?05:23
omarjucato: ok, let me try05:23
traviscause i have had that happen in previous versions05:24
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intelikeyit was parts that existed but had never arranged and coppuled togather before   same with the nes  it was a new thing.  but there wan not really one new invention in it.  just the redesign and formation of a new device as a whole.05:24
kuzmastertravis, no, it dosnt flicker for me, and it can play nearly any format/codec you will find05:24
abattoirJucato: you mean different brushes for different strokes? :P05:24
intelikeynever been ^05:24
StrudelNinjaOk this might be a stupid question, how do I run a shell script?05:24
kuzmastertravis, ive tried it on kubuntu, ubuntu, windows, and mac05:24
Jucatoabattoir: go listen to your lecturer :P05:24
kuzmastertravis, and it works fine05:24
JucatoStrudelNinja: "sh <script>"05:24
omarjucato: I can't05:24
brandon_how do I run a game i installed through adept?05:25
travisyeah, well on Ubuntu it would flicker05:25
StrudelNinjaright, I knew that05:25
StrudelNinjabrain fart05:25
traviswhich is why i am hesitant on it05:25
Jucatoomar: you can't what?05:25
abattoirJucato: haha... so you are my lecturer now :)05:25
Jucatobrandon_: checked the K Menu if it's there?05:25
Hawkwindbrandon_: Type the name of it in a terminal05:25
omarjucato: I can't change to multiuniverse05:25
brandon_I tried that05:25
intelikeyStrudelNinja   sh /path/to/script.sh05:25
brandon_it's not on k menu05:25
Hawkwindbrandon_: Or use tab completion and do something like f(hit the tab)05:25
Jucatoomar: not multiuniverse, "multiverse"05:25
brandon_andok05:25
Jucato!multiverse05:25
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:26
omarjucato: ok, but how05:26
Jucatoomar: ^^^05:26
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Jucatothank link05:26
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onenonfree!05:27
brandon_I tried the complete thing05:27
brandon_it's not working05:27
intelikeyhehhe i'm gonna change the way i gennerally answer that.   s*sh /path/to/script.sh*dash /path/to/script.sh*g   dash is on every *buntu system  but never gets used....05:27
StrudelNinjahey it works now05:27
brandon_and it didn't show up on the k menu05:27
StrudelNinjathanks05:27
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omarjucato: should I go to the sources.lis??05:27
Hawkwindbrandon_: Have you looked at their website at all to see if it says how to play the game ?05:28
brandon_there is no website :S05:28
Hawkwindbrandon_: Yes there is05:28
brandon_where do I find it?05:28
Hawkwindbrandon_: First hit on google:  http://www.flightgear.org/index.shtml05:28
Jucatoomar: the guide gives instructions how to05:28
brandon_I'm stupid05:29
abattoirthere is also a kde frontend to flightgear05:29
intelikeyme too brandon_, but i don't bost about it  ;/05:29
brandon_>.<05:29
brandon_I am going to eat some tuna now05:30
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abattoirbrandon_: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=3441005:30
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Hawkwindabattoir: Interesting.  I had never seen or known about that before05:31
abattoirHawkwind: :)05:32
Jucatoabattoir: has seen/known things we never had seen/known before :P05:32
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Jucatoerr... "abattoir has seen/known things we never had seen/known before :P"05:32
abattoirheh, lol05:32
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Captain_RedbeardErf... are there any knot repositories?05:34
Captain_RedbeardWould like to do an upgrade to knot 3 in a neat way...05:35
intelikeyknot ?05:35
HawkwindCaptain_Redbeard: Just use edgy in your sources.list where dapper would be05:35
HawkwindCaptain_Redbeard: Then just update your system doing a dist-upgrade and it will get you to the latest, which is equivalent to knot305:36
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Captain_RedbeardHawkwind: Oh, I'm retarded... sorry, and thanks05:36
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abattoirCaptain_Redbeard: if you specifically want only the packages in knot3, then, add the CD as a repo05:36
intelikeyHawkwind the latest ?05:36
Captain_RedbeardHawkwind: how to do a dist-upgrade then?05:36
abattoirintelikey: edgy05:36
Hawkwindintelikey: The latest is knot3 for Edgy05:36
HawkwindCaptain_Redbeard: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:36
HawkwindCaptain_Redbeard: Are you running Edgy at the moment ?05:36
intelikeynever mind.   i don't feel like going into that.05:36
abattoirintelikey: the latest 'snapshots' are called knots, like they were flights, for dapper05:37
Hawkwindintelikey: What is there to go into ?05:37
Max_-hi all!! :D on the live CD right now !! :D :D :D  you know the password to su ????  cuz I can't do anything with that ubuntu user....05:37
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Hawkwindintelikey: I'm sure you know that knot3 is the latest snapshot of Edgy05:37
Captain_RedbeardHawkwind: nope... but that's what I want to05:37
abattoirMax_-: use sudo, and the command you need to execute05:37
abattoir!sudo05:37
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:37
abattoirMax_-: ^^^might help05:37
brandon_abattoir, so I just download that for the flight game?05:37
travisok, this puzzles me, it was working a little while ago, now adept is saying "i can't install, uninstall, etc... because other programs are using it" how do i get it to work?05:38
HawkwindCaptain_Redbeard: You do realize it's not stable yet, right ?05:38
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travisi tried restarting05:38
Max_-.... but sudo is long ... why can't we just log as root.. that would be so much easier...05:38
Captain_RedbeardHawkwind: so change from "dapper" to "edgy" in the reps-list and do a dist-upgrade?05:38
Max_-i got things to do with my HDDs...05:38
HawkwindCaptain_Redbeard: Yep.  And prepare for things to be broken05:38
JucatoCaptain_Redbeard: prepare yourself for some instability05:38
abattoirMax_-: ok, the 'sudo -i' would give you a 'root' prompt... that page has instructions05:38
Captain_Redbeardof course05:38
Dr_Willisso far ive not seen much broken yet. :P05:38
JucatoDr_Willis: well, not in Knot 3, yet...05:39
Max_-abattoir: okay, thanks!05:39
Captain_RedbeardThat's why I want it...05:39
Jucatoor maybe, I haven't spent much time on Knot 305:39
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Captain_Redbeardnot as a stable system but as a playground for testing basically05:39
intelikeytravis xpstree see if anything is using dpkg05:39
Dr_Willisabattoir,  i never reboot. :P05:40
traviswhat is xpstree?05:40
Dr_Willisactualy  i just upgraded today05:40
abattoirDr_Willis: well, it doesnt help when Kwin crashes... you are forced to restart X :P05:40
Dr_WillisBah! be a real man! run... twm!05:40
travisis that a command to type in the terminal intelikey?05:40
abattoirDr_Willis: heh :P05:41
intelikeytravis yes.     note restarting a kde session by default restarts what ever was running...    just find what is using dpkg  and kill it.05:41
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Captain_RedbeardHow does everything run if things that are running are to be updated?05:41
travisk05:41
HawkwindCaptain_Redbeard: You restart them and they are at the new version :P05:42
HawkwindCaptain_Redbeard: If you're updating your entire version of the OS, then you'll have to atleast restart X and probably reboot for all the new stuff to take effect05:42
Captain_RedbeardObviously :p I wonder how is it physically done?05:42
Jucatospecially for new kernels05:43
Jucatowhich reminds me...05:43
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intelikeyCaptain_Redbeard and yes it can cause errors, if a running app tries to read data from a newer version.. best to kill everything before dist-upgrade05:43
Captain_Redbeardhmm does that gimpy adept updater tool do the trick?05:43
HawkwindCaptain_Redbeard: I'd strongly suggest doing the update from CLI05:43
Captain_Redbeardaye aye05:44
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Captain_RedbeardHawkwind: but it's doable from inside X?05:45
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=== intelikey does sudo kill -9 -1 then upgrades (but dont try this at home.)
HawkwindCaptain_Redbeard: Sure05:45
HawkwindProbably best not to mention the command if people shouldn't use it05:45
intelikeyi didn't say they shouldn't use it....   if they need it, they should.05:46
intelikeybut the warning was meant to get the attention, that they should be aware of what it does.05:46
travisok, i typed in xpstree in the terminal, nothing came up, i looked at processes and i am not sure what to look for in it, its still not letting me install or uninstall stuff, adept isn't i mean05:48
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intelikeytravis processes named dpkg, update, apt*, dselect.05:49
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travisshould i kill all that are named that in it?05:49
intelikeyyes all but maybe update    if it's update* see what it is.05:49
D4rklyhow can i probe my usb devices ?05:50
intelikeyand if you kill   dselect   or  dpkg   you will probably be required to issue   dpkg --configure -a    to clean it up.05:50
D4rklyto see if 1 of them is working ?05:51
travisgrrr, none of them show up, i really have no idea why its telling me its being used because it isn't05:51
intelikeyD4rkly lsusb05:51
intelikey?05:51
D4rklycool05:51
travisi am using ksysgaurd to look at processes05:52
intelikeytravis ok if you are sure that it's not in use.   remove the lock file05:52
traviswhats the lock file?05:52
intelikeythe file named "lock"05:52
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intelikeyin /var/lib/dpkg   probably05:52
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travisheh, i am a newb with linux, where would i find it?05:52
travisok05:52
intelikeyneed root !05:53
Jucatotravis: you can't start Adept?05:53
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hobot:)05:53
hobot:) hey guys05:53
travisshould i do anything before remoiving it? cause i don't want my ssytem to crash suddenly05:53
travisjucato, thats right its saying database locked05:54
travispretty much05:54
intelikeyJucato if i understood correctly.  no.  error message  package manager in use05:54
Jucatotravis: run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"05:54
D4rklyi think my ati usb remote is dead it doesnt appear in lsusb ?05:54
traviswell, that did a whole bunch of text that i am not sure about05:55
intelikeyany "error"  in it    or "E"05:55
hobothey guys I was all ready to ask a question but then I rtfm and it answered it how about them apples05:56
travisyeah there was an error, it seems05:56
Jucatotravis: what it basically does is try to continue where a package manager left off, because of hanging, stalling, or some other error05:56
traviswith flashplugin-nonfree05:56
travisheh, interesting05:56
dekanybody here uses LaTeX ?05:56
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Dr_Willisdek,  years ago.05:57
intelikeyhmmm that shouldn't have kept adept from running05:57
dekhave you used Pstricks?05:57
Dr_WillisNope.05:57
dekit doesn't seem to recognize the commands :-/05:57
dekalthough I added the packages05:57
travisyeah, well i just tried adept again intelikey and now its letting me install05:57
dekI always get Undefined control sequence. \pscurve, etc05:57
travisso maybe i just closed out of it by accident and forgot to let it do the installs before hand?05:57
Jucatotravis: probably :P05:57
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Jucatotravis: try to remember that command whenever your database gets locked05:58
travisi will, i am probably gonna make a text file of important commands so that i never forget them05:58
intelikeyok i'll go back and revisit dpkg    cause i don't think that was a 'lock' issue after all05:58
hobothey guys where is this reset X server button it tells me about :)?05:58
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Jucatohobot: you can just press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace BUT save anything that needs saving first05:59
hobotyes of course05:59
hobothere is a question05:59
hobotif I ruined my xorg.conf05:59
hobotI have a backup05:59
intelikey(note to travis) text files on a system that gets reloaded don't do one bit of good....   been there.05:59
omarjucato: I got themultiverse, now?, I want to get my mp305:59
hobotcan I still just ctrol alt f105:59
hobotctrl alt f105:59
D4rklyim trying to get my ati usb remote working ? if it doesnt appear in lsusb is it dead ??05:59
hobotreload the backup05:59
hobotand then restart06:00
Jucatohobot: you can even do it in Konsole. sudo cp stuff06:00
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Jucatoomar: now try looking for "libxine-extracodecs" again06:00
hobot:)06:00
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travisheh ok intelikey06:00
Jucatohobot: just restart X after06:00
hobotalso this is amazing for newbs https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions06:00
hobotI <3 it06:00
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hobotYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES06:02
hobotYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES IT WORKS MY PRECIOUS06:02
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Jucatoum.. someone is asking " if dvd protection is universal or just win-constraint"?06:03
traviswindows constraint?06:03
travisdvd protection just sucks period06:03
travisi have had to deal with a lot of that06:03
Jucatobut that doesn't really answer the question right? :P06:03
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travismeh, its not just windows, it depends on the decryptor that the person is using06:04
travisand also depends on how good of a dvd copyright protection it is06:04
Jucatoah06:04
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travisif its fairly recent, mostlikly you won't be able to rip it, thats assuming thats what the person wants06:04
Jucatoooh thanks for the info :)06:05
travisbut i am not sure if thats what they are asking about, if its just copyright protection in general, no because you have region locks on DVDs06:06
intelikeyhmmm dpkg --configure is a powerful command.  it will redo a lock file that is in use.    learn something new every day06:06
travisheh really?06:06
travisi am starting to really enjoy kubuntu and the linux community06:07
traviseven though i am a newb06:07
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travisWHOA!?! i just found a STREAM RIPPER for downloading online streams!06:08
travisfor linux, thats awesome!06:08
Captain_Redbeardtravis: why so suprised?06:09
fildosensors for cpu temp ? what program wouldi  need to install ?06:09
intelikeyyeah why so suprised ?    if it can be done linux can do it.    even crash.06:09
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travishaha, yeah, but i am surprised cause windows doesn't have a program out there that can download streams06:10
Jucatoheh06:10
Captain_Redbeardtravis: win32 have got the strength of money but we've got the strength of commitment and numbers06:10
Captain_Redbeardtravis: Linux is done "by users for users" :)06:10
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travisheh, yes, i can tell06:11
Jucatohm.. before it was "by geeks, for geeks"06:11
Jucato:P06:11
Captain_RedbeardJucato: still is but "users" is probably a more neutral word :)06:11
travisi am somewhat a geek, but i don't like computer programming, i get terrible headaches looking at codes for long periods of times06:11
travisi am more of a pirater i guess06:11
intelikeyfildo apt-cache search sensor06:11
travisi say "if i have the money i will buy it, otherwise i am a poor college student'06:12
travisthats my excuse06:12
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Hawkwindfildo: gkrellm can monitor the temps without installing lmsensors since the 2.6 kernel comes default with that stuff.06:12
Hawkwindfildo: If you want to use something different, then you might have to install lmsensors, just all depends06:13
JucatoHawkwind: does the mobo need to support those sensors for gkrellm to work? I'm not sure mine has that feature...06:13
HawkwindJucato: Yes, your BIOS has to support it.  If your BIOS lists the temps then chances are gkrellm will work for you06:14
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JucatoHawkwind: that's cool. never got lmsensors to work for me06:14
intelikeyHawkwind so is gkrellm/linux_kernel using the BIOS to access the sensors ?06:15
Hawkwindintelikey: Yes06:15
travisok guys, another question, i like the mac osx setup and have a lot of it configured except for a good dock, kxdocker seems to be coming up with errors, anyone know of a better dock?06:16
Jucatoand what is lmsensors using?06:16
intelikeywhy would linux depend on bios ?06:16
HawkwindJucato: lmsensors loads a lot of i2c modules to work properly06:16
Jucatoah06:16
intelikeyit doesn't depend on bios for anything else does it ?06:16
jpiccolo_anyone know of a good tutorial for apache?06:16
Hawkwindintelikey: Not that I know of.  Just for sensor stuff.  Hence why you don't need lmsensors06:16
Jucato!repos > Jucato06:17
Hawkwindjpiccolo_: apache.org ?06:17
jpiccolo_they are alittle to techinical for me06:17
Hawkwindjpiccolo_: tldp.org ?06:17
intelikeybut that leaves me wondering about the kernel ?    have they gotten lazy and stopped writing "real code" and started depending on bios and other sources to be the actual code, and just call them from the kernel ?06:18
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Hawkwind!repos > Hawkwind06:18
intelikeythat doesn't at all sound like linux.06:18
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Hawkwindintelikey: Not even remotely close.  Maybe you should read up on it before you go off and start bashing about them not writing 'real code' since you seem to not know what you're talking about06:19
intelikeyHawkwind seem to....   hmmm  what ever.06:19
Hawkwindintelikey: Point is, kernel developers seem to be writing 'real code' as it is.  If you feel it's inadequate, maybe you should offer your 'expertise' coding skills06:20
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intelikeyrant buba06:21
Hawkwindbuba ?06:22
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Captain_Redbearduh... what's dpkg's error code 1 signaling for?06:23
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fildoHawkwind: gkrellm is good06:24
fildoHawkwind: but has no temp sesor06:24
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Hawkwindfildo: No temp sensor for what ?06:24
fildocpu06:24
fildoor system in general06:25
fildoim after something that can monitor it, cause this wifi gets hot as06:25
HawkwindWhat version of gkrellm you using ?06:25
cpk2fildo: there is a temp plugin i thought...06:25
HawkwindI have my gkrellm monitoring my harddrives, my fans, and my CPU temp06:25
cpk2aptitude search gkrellm you will get lots of stuff06:26
fildook06:26
fildocheers06:26
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Captain_Redbeardhmm seems to work...06:38
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Captain_Redbeardonly thing that is retarded is the bootup splashscreen06:39
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jpiccolo_can anyone get jpiccolo.isa-geek.com06:44
travisgot a question, ok, i unzipped the file, the did ./configure06:44
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travisand then it comes up  "checking for X... configure:  can't find x includes06:44
travisand it goes on and on06:44
traviswhat do i need ofr it to not say that06:44
cameron_SUCCESS!06:45
cameron_I have just installed a Parallel port scanner into Kubuntu....  all by myself!06:46
cameron_I know, lame...06:46
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cameron_now I just have to figure out how to get my webcam working...06:47
ubuntu<cameron_> I have just installed a Parallel port scanner into Kubuntu ---> i have a Primax Colorado 600p that is not working, can you give me a hint ?06:47
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cameron_ubuntu: looks like all scanners in ubuntu or kubuntu use the sane backend...  basically, you need to install the sane library and backend (libsane, sane-utils), and then make sure your scanner is enabled...06:50
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cameron_The only thing you may need to do additional to that is download the linux drivers for you scanner, but I just checked the support page, and it looks like sane doesn't support the Primax scanners...06:52
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travishmmm, i did the ./configure successfully, but now when typing make, it says bash: make: not command06:56
travisor something like that06:56
dennisterhi all06:56
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D4rkly_im trying to get my ati usb remote working ? if it doesnt appear in lsusb is it dead ??06:56
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intelikeytravis you installed build-essential ?06:57
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travisintelikey: build essentiaL?06:57
intelikey!b-e06:57
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)06:57
cameron_travis: I ran into that too.  make doesn't come pre-installed with ubuntu.  you'll find it in adept06:57
travisoooh ok06:57
dennisteranyone help me figure out why my bsh isn't behaving itself?06:58
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travisha, i am retarded, i just goodled the problem06:58
travisgoogled06:58
cameron_hehe06:58
LKCmy adept wont fetch upgrades06:58
ZvezdichkoLKC, try manually - apt-get update, apt-get upgrade06:58
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dennisteri tried to completely remove the major elements of my lamp through synaptic; the teminal (while uninstall was going on) said it couldn't remove some directories because they weren't empty; I've been trying to remove them manually now, but the slashes for the paths are disappearing07:02
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LKCit says there are 0 upgrades but i have not upgraded for since install 2 months ago07:03
dennisternor can i edit a file as root with kwrite or kate from the konsole...get error messages07:03
Ekkostormwhat error messages?07:03
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dennisterbad device 16907:04
JucatoLKC: you probably don't have dapper-security or dapper-updates enabled07:04
LKChow can i enable?07:04
Ekkostormdennister: sorry, I've never seen that one before...07:04
Jucato!repos07:04
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:04
JucatoLKC: ^^^07:04
JucatoLKC: just apply those steps for the lines with "dapper-security" and "dapper-updates"07:04
dennisteralso can't initiailize kdeinit, kded: cannot connect to x server :0.0, dcop aborting...to kded07:05
Ekkostormbtw... has anyone seen a good image slicing program?07:05
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dennisterEkkostorm: tis ok07:05
dennisterjust bugging me07:05
Papandapulo!help07:05
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage07:05
Zvezdichkodennister, it's because you're not running KDE as root ;)07:05
D4rkly_ati_remote module07:05
LKCdid somthing like that on another system yesterday but this system wont let me edit it, i think adept wont recognise my internet connection, how do i get it to do that?07:05
D4rkly_if i dont have the ati_remote module loaded in the kernel will it still appear under lsusb ?07:06
dennisterZvezdichko: but I am running it as root07:06
Zvezdichkooh... that's strange then...07:06
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EkkostormMy question would be why is it having a hard time with x server07:07
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dennisteryes, and  why is a socket pointing to a tmp directory07:07
Zaireanyone in here know of any good beginners guides to shell scripting?07:07
intelikey!cli07:08
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands07:08
Zairethanks .....I thought I would get familiar with it since Im gonna be taking a course07:08
Ekkostormk... is intelikey a bot?07:08
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dennistermy bsh doesn't even recognize the 'cd' command, lol07:08
Jucatolol07:08
JucatoEkkostorm: ubotu is the bot07:08
intelikey!ubotu07:09
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage07:09
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dennisterthat's funny,07:09
Zvezdichkodennister ... that's really, really strange07:09
dennisterthe bot that is07:09
intelikeydennister bash does 'cd'07:09
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Ekkostormand intelikey is a kindly irc dweller of great knowledge that knows just what to ask ubotu at the right time...07:09
Ekkostorm?07:09
dennisterit's supposed to do cd, but it doesn't07:10
intelikeydennister cd /07:10
intelikeyls07:10
intelikeycd ;ls07:10
Ekkostormhave you done a power cycle dennister?07:10
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josefhai jucato07:10
Jucatohi josef07:10
jpiccolo_!selinux07:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about selinux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:11
dennisteromg; NOW it's doing both cd and ls, whereas it didn't before...what's a power cycle?07:11
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Ekkostormlol...07:11
dennisterwierd07:11
intelikey!info selinux07:11
ubotuPackage selinux does not exist in any distro I know07:11
Ekkostorma power cycle involves applying the boots of re to your computer by yanking the cord of power...07:11
josefI have a tv tuner installed its a pci but how do i tell kubuntu that it has a tv tuner07:12
EkkostormYa, I'm a geek...07:12
intelikeyselinux-doc - documentation for Security-Enhanced Linux07:12
intelikeyselinux-utils - SELinux utility programs07:12
Zaireyou have to be a geek to use linux lol07:12
dennisterhaha, i did reboot07:12
josefjucato I have a tv tuner installed its a pci but how do i tell kubuntu that it has a tv tuner07:12
Zvezdichkoare there anny errors during load?07:12
Jucatojosef: sorry, I don't know that... :(07:12
dennisternope, not if ur talkign to me07:12
LKChow can i get my adept to fetch upgrades, i tried manully and failed, tried using adept and when i go to manage repos it says it failed to varify all of them but im connected to the internet, whats happening? :(07:12
EkkostormWell, I'm hooked... Linux officially ROCKS!07:12
dennisteri like it, but ...07:13
josefOk never mind you help me already allot thanks my friend07:13
josefbye jucato07:13
intelikeyLKC sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:13
Zvezdichkoyes I was talking to you. So, to sum up. you load KDE as root and you can't use Kate and Kwrite, right?07:13
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Zaireyou shouldn't be able to load as root unless in cli :S07:14
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LKCfound the problem i forgot to enable07:14
intelikeysafe mode Zaire07:14
Zaireah ic there is that lol07:15
intelikeyfailsafe or what ever grub calls is07:15
ZvezdichkoZaire, it should... I'm a former slackware user, it loads with startx07:15
JucatoGRUB calls it "recovery mode"07:15
intelikeyah recovery mode07:15
EkkostormLKC: here's a thought.  Adept is a package right?  What would happen if you used apt-get to uninstall then reinstall adept?07:15
Zaireyea the only time ive needed root is when I was configuring my surgemail server07:15
Ekkostormk... I'm slow...07:15
intelikey!sudo07:16
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:16
Zvezdichkoanyway, I never run KDE as root. If I want to edit files - pico, emacs... there are so many console editors07:16
Zaireand apparently root couldn't access some of the files for surge either oddly enough lol07:16
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LKCis there aany benifit to cloning my repositories and haveing 1 as main and 1 as multiverse?07:16
EkkostormAnyway, I'm out.  I'll be back later with more questions.07:17
EkkostormThanks for the help all07:17
dennisterbye ekko07:17
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Zvezdichkolol, there's a Freecraft for Ubuntu :P apt-get install freecraft07:18
intelikey!repos > LKC07:18
Homerdoes freecraft come with art?07:19
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dennisterk, was finally able to delete one file, only by going to cd \, then cd etc, then cd \apache2...each with a separate command07:19
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intelikeythere is no cd \07:20
intelikeydennister \ == the escapt char07:20
intelikeythis is not M$07:20
ZvezdichkoHomer, with what?07:20
dennisterwhat about the escape character?07:20
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intelikeydennister the escapr char tells the shell to ignore the next char   i.e.   echo $HOME   will show your home dir  but   echo \$HOME  will show $HOME07:21
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Zvezdichkoand dennister, why are you running cd like that?07:22
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intelikeyyou use the escape char to send special chars to other apps.07:22
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dennisterbecause cd doesn't always want to work properly07:22
dennisterdo u think i like all those cd commands? lol07:22
intelikeyZvezdichko cause he's learing    but having to un-learn M$ so he can learn linux.07:23
dennisternow when i use cd, it dropts me to a > prompt07:23
intelikeywhere are you using cd ?07:23
Jucatoa ">" prompt...07:23
dennisterI'm trying to navigate to certain files i'm trying to remove manually, as root07:24
Zvezdichkosvetlio@zvezdichko:~$ cd .cedega/07:24
Zvezdichkosvetlio@zvezdichko:~/.cedega$07:24
JucatoC:\>07:24
Zvezdichkodon't have problems like that07:24
dennisteri'd love to get rid of mine...like I said at the beginning, bsh is NOT behaving itself07:24
dennisterls07:24
dennisteroops07:25
Zvezdichkobash should recognise each command if it's in the paths /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games07:25
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intelikeyZvezdichko assumes default path07:25
BigEishow come when i try and compile code on xemacs wih g++ as part of my make, kubunu doesn't recognize it?07:25
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intelikeyBigEis cause you haven't installed gcc ?07:26
intelikey!b-e07:26
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intelikeyread that ^ BigEis07:27
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Zvezdichkointelikey, why is this, what are you installing in /use/local/special07:27
BigEisok and does kopete have sound alerts for incoming/outgoing IMs?07:27
intelikeysystem wide scripts07:28
Zvezdichkodennister, don't give up lad, Linux is hard, but not impossible. yesterday I was trying to get my movies working07:28
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JucatoBigEis: yes. Settings > Configure Notifications07:30
dennisterzvez, i got my movies working awhile ago...i just tried to follow the paths u typed, and the \usr\local\sbin directory is empty...and what's this thing about a ':' after some directories' names?07:31
Ryan_i was messing around with my screen resolution and i ended up changing to to something my screen cant recognize and it didnt automaticly change back like usual so i wated a while anstill nothing, i restarted and nothing after the grub. is there anyway to change te setting from a live cd07:31
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BigEisif your kubuntu freezes or stop responding, how do you remedy that?07:31
intelikeyZvezdichko order of search in the path verable is important if you use warpers with the same name as common apps07:31
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Zvezdichkothat's interesting07:32
intelikeydennister how many times i got to tell you?  it's not \   it's  /07:32
ZvezdichkoI remember when I firs installed linux, I was completely unfamiliar with the directory structure07:33
Jucatodennister: "\" is for MS-DOS/Windows, "/" is for Linux/BSD/UNIX07:33
intelikeythere is no \usr\local\sbin   that would be  "srocalbin"   to the shell.   so if that exists you made it.07:33
dennisterlol...and i never make that mistake in the shell itself...just here07:33
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Zairedamn can't get xgl to work07:34
Zvezdichkobut anyway, there shouldn't be anything in /usr/local/bin07:34
ZvezdichkoI always never install apps there except some games07:34
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Zvezdichko*I never07:34
Zaireso once you apt-get xgl what then?07:34
intelikeyand by all means /usr/local/sbin  does indeed exist on your system.07:34
BigEisAnyone know wha to do when your comp freezes or stops responding?07:35
dennisterintellikey: it exists, but it's empty of files or any content07:35
Zairereset it lol07:35
JucatoBigEis: if you can still use the keyboard "Ctrl+Alt+Backspace"07:35
Zvezdichkodennister, and that's normal ;)07:35
intelikeydennister not likely.07:35
BigEisand what will thatdo jucato?07:35
JucatoBigEis: or if you know which app is the culprit, you can Ctrl+Alt+F1 and killall the app07:35
intelikeyoh local07:35
Zaireor ctrl+al+F107:35
intelikeyyeah07:35
JucatoBigEis: it resets/restarts X07:35
intelikeynm the not likely.07:36
Zairestill anyone know what to do with xgl once you apt it?07:36
dennisteri'm confused, are \etc\local\bin and the sbin one supposed to be empty, or not?07:36
BigEishow much RAM does everyone have to run kubuntu?07:36
intelikeywas thinking usr/sbin      i don't know why....07:36
Zvezdichkodennister, yes, they are07:36
insanekaneBigEis: i have 256 DDR07:36
dennister2 different pps, 2 contradictory answers07:36
dennisterk07:36
ZaireI have 1gb DDR2 420007:36
BigEisinsanekane that run pretty quick?07:37
intelikeyerror \etc\local\bin  does not exist07:37
insanekaneBigEis: very :)07:37
dennisterhaha, now intellikey has done the dos/windows forward slash here07:37
ZaireI also have a 3800+ dualcore lol07:37
Jucatodennister: don't you mean /usr/local ?07:37
Zvezdichkobecause Windows is just a Dos shell07:37
Zvezdichko:)07:37
intelikeydennister i quoted you07:37
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intelikey<dennister> i'm confused, are \etc\local\bin and the sbin ...   ^07:37
dennisterwell, ok,,wasn't sure07:38
BigEisinsanekane i have 512mb but not sure if ddr or not, probably not, how could i tell?07:38
BigEisit runs quick,but freezes up sometimes07:38
dennisterit seems i'm more ditzy tonight than usual07:38
ZaireIm stumped there lol07:38
Jucatodennister: /usr/local/bin or /usr/local/sbin wound only have contents depending on whether you have compiled stuff and directed it to install in /usr/local/07:38
insanekaneBigEis: it shows on your POST screen07:38
ZvezdichkoI have 192 MB SD Ram, and Kubuntu is on the fly07:38
Zvezdichko:)07:38
BigEiswhat is the kubuntu equivlent of task manager on windows?07:38
insanekaneBigEis: Ctrl+Esc07:38
JucatoBigEis: Ctrl+Esc07:38
BigEiszvesdichiko you disable or remove any programs?07:39
intelikeydennister some times its better to just turn the box off and go out side...07:39
ZvezdichkoBigEis, no07:39
Zairekmenu system and ksysguard07:39
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ZvezdichkoBigEis, task manager? I don't need a task manager07:39
ZvezdichkoI just type07:39
Zvezdichkops aux07:39
Zvezdichkoand I got all processes running07:39
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Zvezdichkoif there's irresponsible program, kill uid07:40
Zairebrb lol07:40
dennisteranyway, what's with this: i type in 'cd \ <enter>" and i get a new line with just a '>'07:40
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insanekanedennister: \ is not Linux/UNIX07:41
intelikey \07:41
Zairenope xgl still not working07:41
insanekanedennister: \ is the start of an escape sequence07:41
Jucatodennister: because you are typing "\"07:41
Jucatodennister: try typing cd ' and you'll get the same ">"07:41
intelikeydennister it's not \  it's  /  that you want.07:41
intelikeyJucato no i don't think so.07:42
Zvezdichkobut I can make bash looking that way : C:\>07:42
Jucatointelikey: try it07:42
Zvezdichko:)07:42
intelikeyi have.07:42
Jucatothen why does it happen to me?07:42
dennistermaybe I should quit for the night...but i'm not tired07:42
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Zvezdichkodennister, night? lol... where are you from07:42
Zvezdichko:)07:42
intelikeyJucato if you type blah \    and hit the enter you get a new line with only  >_     waiting for you to finish the command07:43
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Zaireif a problem with ram one thing I would ask is if you are running 2 256 chips that are diff speeds like a pc3100 and a 270007:43
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Jucatointelikey: and if you type in cd ' <--- single quote07:43
intelikeyJucato it escapes the carrage return07:43
dennisteri'm from toronto, and it's 1:43 am07:43
intelikeyJucato yeah07:43
dennisteru?07:43
intelikeyoh did you add  a single quote mark07:43
Zvezdichkodennister, Bulgaria, Pleven - GMT+3 or 08:43 am ;)07:43
intelikeyi missed it sorry07:43
Jucatohmph :P07:44
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dennisteryeah,,,with the zvev...in the nic, I'm not surprised07:44
intelikeyJucato i missread your post.   thought the single quote went with the ending statement       my bad.07:44
Zvezdichkoit means a star07:45
Zvezdichko:)07:45
Zvezdichkoanybody using shell different than bash?07:45
dennisterheheheh...love it07:45
Jucatointelikey: heh no worries07:45
intelikeybut even at that they are not the same.07:45
dennisterused to know tons of eastern europeans when I was an it headhunter07:45
dennisterall the zzzzzzzzzz's07:46
intelikeysame result for the first line.  but  cd '     will wait for the closing '   while  cd \   will exec on the next return key.07:46
Jucatointelikey: well, they're both escape characters aren't they? :)07:46
intelikeyno one is a quote the other escapes07:46
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intelikeyjucato    echo '$PATH   !=   echo \$PATH07:47
Zairewow lol I love my net connection it downloaded gnome in about 8 min lol07:47
Jucatointelikey: ok ok :)07:47
ZvezdichkoZaire, heh I don't like gnome07:48
Zvezdichko:)07:48
intelikeyi like it about that much too07:49
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Jucatohm... I like GNOME...07:49
Jucatobut not as much as KDE07:49
dennisterwell, it seems my probs with bsh have disappeared...fell really stupid...but i guess i had to make the wrong-direction-slash mmistake once...being an old dos user07:49
dennisteri just reallly didn't think i had07:50
ZaireI don't like gnome either Im just using it to test out xgl lol07:50
Zvezdichkothat's why we have Ubuntu and Kubuntu, and Xubuntu ...07:50
Zvezdichkoyears ago QTs were not GPL and that's why Debian didn't support KDE07:50
Jucatoaround 1998-2000 iirc07:50
Zairespeaking of which brb lol07:50
dennisteri must say, i thought i liked gnome at first, but i like kde better now07:50
dennistereven though i haven't taken a serious stab at upgrading from 3.5.2 to the 3.5.4 yet07:51
Zvezdichkoiiirc... what was that?07:51
Jucatoiirc = if I remember/recall correctly07:51
octanyes07:52
dennisterliir is for remotes07:52
dennistersorry liirc07:52
Zvezdichkodennister, I haven't upgraded, too. waiting for the first KDE 4 beta07:52
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Jucatoah07:52
ZvezdichkoJucato, yes... but in 2000 I think Gnome was better than KDE07:53
intelikeytwm07:53
Jucato:)07:54
intelikeyweighs next to nothing.  :)07:54
intelikeyworks07:54
intelikeyis fast07:54
Zvezdichkointelikey, I can start the X server without a window manager. I have done this before and it's working07:54
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intelikeyme too  but you can't do anything unless you attach something to it07:55
ZvezdichkoI just have to include a line in the .xinitrc to launch xterm after startup07:55
intelikeyX & sleep 12 ;xterm --display :007:56
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intelikeyno line needed07:56
Zvezdichkoyes, that's right07:56
Zairedamn wth does it take to get xgl working07:56
Zvezdichkoas for the old window managers good old fvwm95... what a nostalgy07:56
intelikey!glx07:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:56
intelikey!nv07:57
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:57
Zaire!xgl07:57
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems07:57
Zvezdichko!aptitude07:57
ubotuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide07:57
Zaireah screw it I don't feel like messing with the extra crap at the moment lol07:58
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dennisterwell, since I can continue deleting now, and then reinstall my lamp...cya folks07:58
dennisterthnks!07:58
ZvezdichkoOK, good luclk07:59
Zvezdichko:)07:59
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clojsterhi, how can I simply hide some menu items in Kmenu?08:01
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intelikeykmenueditor08:02
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intelikeykmenuedit  that is08:02
Jucato(or right-click on the K Menu and select Menu Editor...)08:03
clojsterwell... i don't see the otion to hide menuitem in kmenuedit08:03
clojster*option08:05
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Ryan_where should my desktop config file be08:06
intelikey~/.kde/ someplace08:06
Zvezdichkohey, houston, we've had a problem here08:09
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intelikeywho called huston ?08:10
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ZvezdichkoAtlantis space shuttle ;)08:10
Zvezdichkowe can't install flash player for Konqueror08:10
Zvezdichko:008:10
intelikeynot even08:10
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Jucato!flashplugin-nonfree08:11
intelikey!flash08:11
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)08:11
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:11
LKCif i wanted to make my comp in to a big juke box for my brother to play his music in his room what would be the best program to use?08:11
Zvezdichkolol, I hope this will work with conqueror08:11
clojsterso is there any way to actually hide menuitem and not to delete it?08:12
intelikeyLKC sox08:12
kutohow do you open a new tab for chat connection using konversation?08:12
JucatoZvezdichko: it will08:12
clojstersomething like checkbox "hide/show"08:12
Jucatokuto: different server?08:12
intelikeyLKC sox is the best.08:12
LKChow do i get my writing red?08:12
kutoJucato: yes08:12
intelikeyno question the very best, is sox08:12
Jucatokuto: just connect to that other server and it will have it's own tab08:12
HomerI kinda like kvirc08:12
Jucatokuto: for example, freenode will have its own tab, DALnet will have its own, etc.08:13
ZvezdichkoXchat has multitabbing08:13
Zvezdichko:008:13
intelikeysox is IT!08:13
Zvezdichkoapt-get install xchat08:13
LKCthx08:13
JucatoZvezdichko: so does Konversation08:13
Homeror kvirc :p08:13
intelikeyZvezdichko irssi has multi-tabbing08:13
Jucatolol08:14
Homerbitchx has multiserver08:14
Zvezdichkoand BitchX...08:14
Zvezdichkoyou take the words from my mouth08:14
Zvezdichko:)08:14
intelikeyHomer :)08:14
intelikeyepic08:14
kutook got it tnx08:14
intelikeyLKC i didn't08:14
intelikeylkc your irc client highlights when your nick is in the text08:15
LKCok thx08:15
Zvezdichko!xchat-console08:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xchat-console - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:16
Zvezdichkooh...08:16
intelikeyLKC and also of note.  you ask about "best"  that's just begging for a flame war.    best is subjective   they are all good apps and each 'better' at the one thing they were designed for.    but there is no 'best' blah.    cause we all have openions and they dont agree.08:17
LKCwell i did really ask for the best app for use as a stereo that does the job like itunes or WMP but better08:18
Zairewell Im off to watch a movie and go to bed...laters08:18
LKCalso must be very user friendly08:18
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Ryan_im booting from a live cd trying to change some display setting on an installed kubuntu how do i get permission  to assess the .kde file to get to my config file08:19
intelikeyLKC  i wasn't just joking (although it was a joke) when i said sox is the way to play music.  but it's only a cli filter that lets you read music files to the digital sound device.  it comes with a cli frontend "play"  which togather they are very good in my openion.  but im not you.08:19
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Zvezdichkolol, installed the flash plugin, some sites look OK, except the NASA website08:20
intelikeyprolly using flash808:20
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Homerhasn't adobe been working on updating flash?08:21
LKCintelikey is ox much like WMP or iTunes or Amarok to look at because he is very visual based so it must look nice08:21
LKC*sox08:21
intelikeyno nothing like them at all08:22
intelikeyvlc is a lot more like them08:22
LKCis it pleasant to look at?08:22
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intelikeynothing to see08:22
intelikeyit's cli08:22
Zvezdichkoas we started talking about NASA, I think about watching NASA TV through the browser. There is a realplayer plugin for firefox, but is there a plugin for konqueror...08:22
intelikey!cli08:22
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands08:22
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Zvezdichkoalso, having problems with taking screenshots when playing a clip. the player ( whatever it is ) shows a blue screen on the screenie08:23
Homerdude adobe is saying Q1 200708:23
Homerby then I think gnash will be able to play flash 9 files anyway08:23
LKCyeah i was thinking vlc or amarok too start with but was wondering if there are alternatives that play all files and display them weel08:23
intelikey!mplayer08:24
ubotumplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile08:24
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.08:24
intelikey!audacity08:24
ubotuaudacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1842 kB, installed size 5460 kB08:24
intelikey!vlc08:24
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs08:24
intelikeybastards08:25
Zvezdichkocute tongue08:25
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intelikeywell i cant spell illegitimate brats08:25
LKCkool thx for the help will give them all a go seeing i have 80 gig to fill08:25
intelikeybesides when did bastard become a bad word ?08:26
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intelikeybut if it offends you.  i'll try to refrain from using it in here.08:27
Zvezdichkowho were you talking to ;)08:28
intelikeyda fella dat commented on my comment.....   errr you.08:28
Zvezdichkoanyway, bastard is not a bad word, use it as you wish :)08:28
intelikeythen what was "<Zvezdichko> cute tongue"  all about ?08:29
intelikeynever mind.08:29
Zvezdichkoit's sounds good :)08:30
Zvezdichkoit*08:30
Ryan_whats the root password for a live cd08:32
Ryan_ubuntu08:32
intelikeythere isn't one08:32
intelikey!sudo08:32
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:32
Ryan_how do i setr08:32
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Ryan_set*08:32
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comosomosju?08:33
intelikeyif you want a root passwd on the live do   sudo passwd08:33
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ZvezdichkoI think you can set a password with sudo passwd08:33
comosomosyes you can08:33
Ryan_ah....i forgot the sudo part ...thanks08:33
intelikeyRyan_ why would you want a password on the live cd ?08:34
intelikeysudo -i   is instant root     ubuntu is root jr.  on the live08:34
comosomosi tried ones to install xgl on the live cd08:34
intelikeyhehhe i'm from southern US  setr  seemed normal....08:35
intelikeymaybe set'r08:36
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intelikeybrang'r in here, and set'r right thar.08:38
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LKChow hard is Xgl/compiz to install out of 10 for a person who is comfortable with Kubuntu but not pro?08:41
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intelikeyLKC i have no idea.   i haven't started a gui in three days  iirc.08:42
intelikeyand never tried to setup all that fancy stuff08:43
LKCok, well i dont think i could survive 3 days with out a GUI if i was given a choice. i could manage but i think i would go crazy08:44
intelikeyi thought about installing the nvidia drivers for my card one time, just so i could answer questions on that issue.  but saw so many others installing nvidia drivers i figured there would be plenty of help on that point.08:45
LKCso u dont have a gui bcoz u have bo nvisia drivers?08:46
intelikeyLKC some like the gui some like the cli. some like them both  but they usually get over that, and become cli geeks.08:46
intelikeyi have a gui.  just don't use it.08:46
intelikeykde runs well here.08:46
intelikeyif you want the pointy clicky thingy08:47
intelikeyi got it.08:47
LKCwhat does the i stand for in cli?08:47
intelikeyinterface08:47
intelikeysame in gui08:47
intelikey!cli08:47
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands08:47
intelikey!gui08:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gui - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:48
intelikeyhehhe even the bot dont like gui.... lol08:48
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LKCif MS had its way nobody would have cli and nobody would no cl08:49
intelikeyif M$ had it's way there would be only one os.08:49
intelikeyif i had my way M$ would never make another cent... so...08:50
LKCno i think linux deseves compition08:50
ZvezdichkoYears ago my parents tried to use linux for bisness, but ...08:51
Zvezdichkodo you know what happened?08:51
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intelikeymaybe you misread me.   i din't say M$ would cease to exist.  i said they would not "sell" any more software.08:51
intelikeyyears ago ?    linux is reletively young08:52
intelikeystarted 109508:52
ZvezdichkoI know. It was 3 years ago...08:52
intelikey199508:52
intelikeyooops08:52
LKCwell whats wrong with selling an OS? Novell does it with SuSE08:53
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intelikeyi just made linux a thousand years old,  hope linus doesn't see that.08:53
Zvezdichkobut anyway, Linux in 2003 is old... I don't think that the situation has changed much now... because it was not because of the OS. The OS was good, we had a great office suite and wonderful programmes08:53
Zvezdichkoit was because of the goddamn M$ file formats08:53
Zvezdichkoimagine that a client comes, gives you a USB flash, and he says: There is a .doc file, I want it printed08:54
lupine_85LKC: 5/1008:54
Zvezdichkoyou open the doc file in OpenOffice, and huh! the document doesn't look OK. You have to format the page again and again08:54
lupine_85that's what PDF is for :)08:55
Zvezdichkowe lose time, the client get innerved... and next time he won't come to our office...08:55
intelikeyLKC i didn't say there was anything wrong with commerce.   it's the dirty/crocked/evil business actions  that turn me against M$   besides read the  EULA  and tell me you can agree to that in all honesty.08:55
Zvezdichkolupine_85, yes, that's PDF, but how to tell these people- don't use MS word and Word's file formats08:56
LKCi have nvr read a EULA bcoz they are too long and i know they are full of crap but i still agree08:56
IsossGuys is there some /ubuntu/kubuntu link for available network drivers?08:56
Zvezdichkoas intelikey says, it's a matter of business.08:56
IsossI searched and can't find one08:56
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mark_hey guys08:57
Zvezdichkoalso, there was a printer that didn't want to work with Linux.08:57
mark_can you help me?08:57
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Zvezdichkothere weren't any drivers on linuxprinting, the printer was not supported. and my parents gave up linux unfortunately :(08:57
mark_my firefox keeps crashing linux08:57
arunkaleHey, people08:57
lupine_85Zvezdichko: tell them that, in order to ensure there aren't problems with fonts and macros, you only accept documents in PDF format. Simple :). Oh, and with turboprint, you can get ust about all printers working08:58
LKCi have a linux problem with my printer too but bcoz of my gaming habits i use M$ so much it dont matter08:58
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lupine_85That or you call PDF the "preferred" format and set up CrossOver Office08:58
arunkalehello mr werewolf08:58
lupine_85helllooooooooooooooooo :)08:59
Zvezdichkomark_, when is it crashing linux? directly after startup08:59
Zvezdichkoany significant error messages?08:59
mark_no08:59
mark_it does it randomly08:59
intelikeyZvezdichko yeppers.  and thats just the sort of thing i mean.     anyone that buys/uses propritary hardware is paying M$ in the initial purchase and supporting the 'monopoly' that they are trying to build in the same process.      short answer don't buy propritary hardware.08:59
Zvezdichkohow did it install it08:59
mark_but my linux will only crash when it's running08:59
mark_using automatix ><08:59
mark_im also running a i686 kernel09:00
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LKCif im upateing 2 machines with roughly the same updates is there a way to update both without having to download the updates twice?09:00
Zvezdichkomark_, I won't advise you to use automatix. I installed it yesterday and it messed my sources.list and didn't set the multiverse properly09:00
arunkalelupine_85: If I 'calculate' the amount of space used by my Linux partition, it says it's using 7.4GB which is impossible09:00
lupine_85LKC: rsync the /var/cache/apt/archives (IIRC) directory09:01
intelikeylupine_85 & Zvezdichko abiword   formating seems ok to me.  but i haven't used it much.09:01
arunkalelupine_85: I think it also calculates stuff in the 'media' folder09:01
lupine_85arunkale: not sure what you mean09:01
osh_Is there a known bug in the flash-nonfree-package that was just distributed? I get an error while installing.09:01
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lupine_85if you're using du, use -x to keep it all on one FS09:01
lupine_85df -h shows you per-partition usage stats anyway, though09:01
mark_while i havent had the sources problem Zvezdichko, i have had it install a buggy firefox or plugins09:02
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Zvezdichkointelikey, I'm a little surprised that there are people in america that hate M$ much. It shouldn't be so expensive to buy Windows. In Bulgaria the standart is different, people are poor and we can't afford it09:02
LKClupine_85 plz explain in n00b talk09:02
arunkalelupine_85: My Linux drive icon shows up on the desktop.. if I right click > properties, there's an option to calculate how much disc space is being used09:02
intelikeyLKC yes.   copy the content of /var/cache/apt/archives/   to the second box then update it09:02
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mark_btw did you choose cancel when it asked to restore your repos?09:02
Zvezdichkoor most people can't afford it ( as for me I have a licensed copy of XP home )09:02
intelikeyZvezdichko there are poor in america tooo09:03
intelikeythe poor you have with you always.09:03
lupine_85LKC: set up openssh-server on one computer. On the other computer, run rsync with the correct options to copy all of the folder /var/cache/apt/archives to the remote computer. man rsync for those09:03
LKCso i copy the files then load up adept and then do what?09:03
lupine_85no need to do anything else - it'll use the files automagically09:03
intelikeysame as you did on the other box LKC09:04
intelikeyLKC apt won't dl files that are already there.09:04
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Zvezdichkomark_, apt-get remove mozilla-firefox09:04
Zvezdichkoapt-get install mozilla-firefox09:04
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Zvezdichkotry again09:04
Zvezdichkohope this will work09:04
lupine_85you could also set up a third computer as a just-in-time, caching repo mirror, but that's a PITA09:04
mark_tried that 5 times09:05
mark_im thinking about nuking its directories09:05
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mark_or maybe creating a new one09:05
lupine_85mark_: have you tried restoring your old sources.list and then apt-get remove --purge mozilla-firefox ?09:05
lupine_85(then reinstall, obviously). --purge deletes all config files for you09:05
mark_ill try purge09:06
mark_my old sources list is still intact09:06
intelikeymark_ don't forget to always update the database after changes to sources.list09:06
intelikeysudo apt-get update09:06
intelikeyor adept update09:06
intelikeyapply09:06
Homeris there any packages to get java working in konq09:06
lupine_85use that one, then - otherwise you could just pull in the automatix version again (I've never used it, so couldn't say for sure)09:07
intelikeyor what ever it is.09:07
LKCfirstly i cant set up a network im running the computers indepently so the therory must be able to be done with a USB key09:07
mark_aww crap no it isnt09:07
intelikey!java09:07
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository09:07
mark_i told automatic not to do tha ><09:07
lupine_85LKC: perfectly possible with a USB key09:07
ZvezdichkoOK, guys. We started talking about marketing and Linux. Do you think that If we'd had Linux as good as it is now in 1998, Windows 98 wouldn't have had a chance at all...09:07
lupine_85just a bit more hassle09:07
kutohow do i login as root in kubuntu using gui, i can only su - using cli09:07
mark_anyone have a sources.list they wanna donate?09:07
lupine_85Windows 98++ !09:07
intelikeymark you only need three lines really.   i'll post them.09:07
intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse09:08
intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse09:08
intelikeydeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse09:08
lupine_85no dapper-backports? ;)09:08
mark_i want my backports09:08
intelikeynot needed.  but you can add backports09:08
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intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse09:09
Zvezdichkolupine_85, yes, windows 98... Definitely Linux nowadays is better than 98. But XP was a great step for Micro$ux, and Vista will be a leap...09:09
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obf213i need help with a self extracting file09:09
mark_zvez, it will be a leap into a ditch09:09
intelikeywhat flavour ?09:09
obf213i cd to the directory and the typed in filename.run and it says permission denied.09:10
mark_not even my brand new comp will run it09:10
kutohow do i login as root in kubuntu using gui, i can only su - using cli..anyone?09:10
obf213if i do cd it says it command not found?09:10
lupine_8598 is better than XP, IMO09:10
arunkaleHow do I check how much free space I have on my partition?09:10
Zvezdichkoimagine using Vista in Bulgaria... most people have computers like mine - Pentium 3 800 Mhz, 40 GB hdd, 256 ram09:10
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intelikeyobf213 chmod09:10
arunkale??09:10
lupine_85df -h :)09:11
intelikeyor in knoqueror make it executable09:11
intelikeyarunkale df09:11
arunkaleokay09:11
obf213ahh ok09:11
arunkalethanks!!09:11
obf213intelikey hwo do i use chmod09:12
obf213chmod then the file name?09:12
intelikeyZvezdichko wish i had something that big and powerful.  you should be proud of it.09:12
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intelikeyobf213 chmod 755 file.name09:12
intelikey./file.name09:13
Zvezdichkointelikey, what is your configuration09:13
obf213ok09:13
ZvezdichkoHDD, CPU... etc09:13
intelikeyp1 mmx 100mhz 600mb hd 64m ram09:13
arunkaleI found a way to make my fonts on Kubuntu look like they do on a Mac09:14
LKCwhat packages do i need for my wireless card and how do i config it?09:14
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intelikeyover clocked it to 266mhz  now it seems really fast.....  to me.09:14
intelikey!wifi09:15
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:15
obf213intelikey, does that make so i can use sudo or something09:15
Zvezdichko600 Mb hdd... what have you installed on this?09:15
obf213or was supposed to exectute the file09:15
intelikeyobf213 no it makes it executable09:15
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obf213ahh ok thanks09:15
obf213i c09:15
intelikeyZvezdichko ubuntu linux and kde09:15
Zvezdichkoit should be over 700 IMO then09:16
intelikeyi have to tinker to get kde to fit.  cut a few corners yes09:16
arunkaleHow do I change the way certain form fields show up in browsers? submit buttons, radio buttons, input fields, etc09:17
intelikeyno room for a swap file.  last time i checked 23m free09:17
ZvezdichkoI think that my Pentium 3 machine is less than 5$009:17
intelikeyaaaa 22m09:17
marius_nekdo, kdo rozumi cesky?09:17
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Zvezdichkodon't worry intelikey, it's worse here09:18
Zvezdichkocomputers in our schools are also pentium at 100 Mhz, there are een 486 DXs and Pravetzs09:19
arunkaleHow do I change the way certain form fields show up in browsers? submit buttons, radio buttons, input fields, etc09:19
intelikeyZvezdichko yes.  i'm sure the avarage is.  i was just pointing out that avarages are calculated but don't give a real sense of the normal.   i.e.    M$ gates has 9.84billion  that and one million have nothing   the avarage is over 9,000 per person....  not a good reflection of what is really happening.09:21
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Zvezdichkowe still have a chance gates to commite a suicide before vista is released :)09:22
Zvezdichkocommit*09:22
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intelikeyno.  i wouldn't wish that on him.09:23
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obf213im trying to opne adept aand it just seems lik eit one open, i c it in in my processess list when i open top in the terminal though09:23
Zvezdichkothat was a joke :)09:23
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Zvezdichkoa bit nasty, but it's still a joke :) [I'm christian] 09:24
intelikeyobf213 [alt] +[tab] 09:24
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obf213intelikey its not open09:25
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intelikeywait obf213 you see the process in top  and you way it's not running ?09:26
intelikeys/way/say/09:26
obf213yes i c adept listed in system guard and htop09:26
obf213but i dont see adept, its not opening09:26
intelikeykill it09:26
Jucatoobf213: are you sure it's not adept_notifier that you're seeing?09:26
obf213errr it just says adept in system moniter09:27
obf213and adept in htop/top09:27
ZvezdichkoWill they ban me if I paste an imageshack link?09:27
Jucatowhy would they? unless it's against CoC09:27
Zvezdichkobecause it's a link09:27
intelikeykill it run    sudo killall adept ; sudo dpkg --configure -a       and restart adept09:28
Jucatoso?09:28
intelikeyZvezdichko post it.09:28
Jucatoas long as it is not offensive there's no reason for you to be banned09:28
intelikeyif they dont like it they may.... but not just for one spam09:28
obf213intelikey thanks it opened now09:29
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arunkaleHow do I change the way certain form fields show up in browsers? submit buttons, radio buttons, input fields, etc09:30
Jucatointelikey: thanks!!09:30
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obf213my computer is just hanging when it gets to preparing09:32
obf213a pacakage in adpet09:32
Zvezdichkohttp://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3442/snapshot7pd0.jpg09:33
Zvezdichkothat's my desktop09:33
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Jucatosee that wasn't so bad? :P09:35
intelikeyobf213 note the package name    close adept   and in the konsole enter   sudo apt-get inatall <that package name>       watch for error messages09:35
ZvezdichkoJucato, It's good... maybe I should try some karambas but they're too heavy  :)09:36
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Jucatowb intelikey09:37
intelikeyand the daily modem reset kicks in.09:37
intelikeyty09:37
Zvezdichkowubs09:38
Zvezdichkodid you see my screenie09:38
Zvezdichko:P09:38
LKCi finally found a project to make a driver for my wirless http://linux-bcom4301.sourceforge.net/ can anybody help me find where to download it?09:38
intelikeysaw the url09:38
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intelikeyJucato did the fellow get my message about  adept/apt-get ?09:38
Jucatonope. he left before you even typed the message09:39
arunkalehey Jucato09:39
intelikeyah well.   autocompleeted the nick...  didn't notice an exit message.09:39
Jucatoarunkale: hi09:39
arunkaleJucato: How do I change the way certain form fields show up in browsers? submit buttons, radio buttons, input fields, etc09:40
Jucatoarunkale: er... sorry I don't know09:40
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intelikeyarunkale just so you know i wasn't ignoring you.   i don't know either.09:40
arunkaleyeah, i got it :)09:41
arunkalethanks09:41
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arunkalei think i should just get a better theme09:41
Zvezdichkointelikey, modem? what kind of ISP is that09:42
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intelikeychanging the theme might change the things you are wanting to change,   but i kinda doubt it.09:42
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BTJusticeI am running the latest version of Kubuntu on Live CD.  I take it I cannot access my Windows hard drives for that reason?09:43
intelikeyZvezdichko  dialup   the only other option is satalite.   no wireless or hs wires here.  too rural09:43
intelikeyBTJustice mount it.09:43
BTJusticeI can do that with Live CD?09:43
Zvezdichkothat's kinda strange. we are talking about Houston, TX...09:43
BTJusticeI click on System Menu > Storage and the hard drives are lsited.09:44
BTJusticeBut they still have ot be mounted?09:44
intelikeysudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/something -o umask=009:44
Zvezdichkobetter place that line into /etc/fstab09:44
BTJusticemount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab09:44
intelikeyZvezdichko i don't live within 1000k of houston tx09:44
intelikeyhda1 was a guess.    sudo fdisk -l    should help you find it.09:45
BTJusticeoh wait... its formatted NTFS.09:45
BTJusticeNo, I right-clicked on it and left-clicked on MOUNT09:45
BTJusticethat is the message that pops up09:45
Zvezdichkoin pleven ( the small  town I live, no skyscrapers, etc ) there are only two ISPs - OptiSprint ( Optical) and Eurocom ( Cable internet + cable modem )09:45
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obf213i was trying to install a packaage and it kept hanging when it got to the installing part, so i ran it in console and i got this error message09:46
ZvezdichkoBTJustice, see my /etc/fstab09:47
Zvezdichko/dev/hda5       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       109:47
Zvezdichko/dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       109:47
Zvezdichko/dev/hda2       /media/hda2     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       109:47
Zvezdichko/dev/hda6       none            swap    sw              0       009:47
Zvezdichko/dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       009:47
Zvezdichko/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       009:47
obf213Errors were encountered while processing:09:47
obf213 /var/cache/apt/archives/postfix_2.2.10-1ubuntu0.1_i386.deb09:47
JucatoZvezdichko: don't flood please09:47
Jucato!pastebin09:47
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:47
obf213what does it mean if there is error with postifx?09:47
ZvezdichkoJucato, I'm sorry. In Xchat it looked like one line ..09:47
BTJusticeI don;t see it09:48
JucatoZvezdichko: he's on a live CD remember09:48
obf213E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) what does this mean09:48
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intelikeyit's the little symbol that i cant print for obvious reasons   its an psy over a little T    that tells the irc server to \n (new line)   Zvezdichko    that's why it flooded09:49
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obf213intelikey i get an error with postfix09:50
ZvezdichkoI jumped on the page Jucato printed ( pastebin )09:50
BTJusticeI guess I can;t mount any hard dirves since I am running Kubuntu off the Live CD.  It isn;t installed on my computer.09:50
Jucatoobf213: you were trying to install postfix?09:50
intelikeyobf213 i do too09:50
obf213i was trying to install lsb09:51
intelikeywhat error ?09:51
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intelikeyobf213 i need the error.  not the dpkg error the one from the setup scripts that cause the dpkg error  look above it09:52
obf213it says postfix is not going to be installed09:52
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obf213it says Depends: postfix but is nto going to be installed or mail-transport-agent09:53
intelikeylook a little higher09:53
visik7anyone got problems with flashplugin from backports ?09:54
obf213E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)09:54
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visik7obf213: ok I'm not alone09:54
intelikeyor we can cludge around in the dark.    obf213 try this    sudo apt-get install -f 2| less09:55
obf213alrigtht09:56
BTJusticeI guess I can't mount any hard drives since I am running Kubuntu off the Live CD.  It isn't installed on my computer.09:56
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intelikeyBTJustice i told you how to mount them.09:56
intelikeyman mount09:56
JucatoBTJustice: yes you can, you just need to 1) create a mount point for it and 2) mount it manually09:56
BTJusticeUhg... command line...09:57
JucatoBTJustice: I never said anything about a command line :P09:57
BTJusticeintelikey did09:57
JucatoBTJustice: System Settings > Disks & Filesystem if you want a GUI09:57
intelikeyBTJustice if you just want to whine about a gui app not functioning to your specs.   i know how to /ignore blah all09:58
BTJusticeman mount09:58
BTJusticein terminal09:58
BTJusticeWhy can;t I do it in KDE by going to System > Storage and right-clicking on the drive then left-clicking on mount?09:58
obf213intelikey thanks09:58
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intelikeyobf213 so now every thing working ?09:59
obf213yes09:59
JucatoBTJustice: because there's not mount point for your Windows partition so you can't just right-click09:59
intelikeyobf213 i was kinda waiting for the error message....    :)09:59
BTJusticeok09:59
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obf213i dunno eveyrthing just worked10:00
obf213the self install program just ran and it worked10:00
intelikeyok that's all you wanted.10:01
intelikeyand i can make my own error messages to read   lol10:01
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BTJusticesudo mount /dev/hda /mnt/BACKUP10:03
BTJustice???10:03
intelikeyBTJustice no hda is the whole hd.10:03
intelikeyyou want the ntfs partition10:04
BTJusticeubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/BACKUP10:04
BTJusticemount: mount point /mnt/BACKUP does not exist10:04
intelikeyhda1 or hda2 probably10:04
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BTJusticentfs yes10:04
intelikeyand make the dir.10:04
intelikeysudo mkdir /mnt ;sudo mkdir /mnt/BACKUP10:05
intelikeyalso add a umask to that mount command10:05
intelikeysudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/BACKUP -o umask=010:05
arunkaleHow do I get Frostwire for Kubuntu?10:06
intelikeyor your user (ubuntu) wont be able to access it10:06
intelikey!frostwire10:06
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire10:06
BTJusticeubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir /mnt ;sudo mkdir /mnt/BACKUP10:06
BTJusticemkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt': File exists10:06
BTJusticeI can;t right-click and make a folder?10:07
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intelikeyit made the folder10:07
JucatoBTJustice: no, enter the commands one at a time10:07
intelikeyno error means no error10:07
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Jucatoerr... intelikey /mnt already exists by default10:07
intelikey /mnt was there but /mnt/backup wasnt10:07
BTJusticeubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir /mnt10:07
BTJusticemkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt': File exists10:07
BTJusticeubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir /mnt/BACKUP10:07
BTJusticemkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/BACKUP': File exists10:07
BTJusticeubuntu@ubuntu:~$10:07
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intelikeynow he gets two errors10:07
intelikey:)10:07
intelikeysee10:07
Jucatorawr10:08
BTJusticeBut it made them though it said they already existed???10:08
intelikeyno it made them the first time10:08
mel_hi guys, can I get some with something really quick?10:08
Jucatoif you asked your question really quick, maybe we can try :)10:09
intelikeyyou can repete the command from now on and it will error every time.  but if you remove the folders and run it it will make them again.  (the first time)10:09
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BTJusticeah10:10
BTJusticeok got it mounted10:10
BTJusticebut it won;t let me copy any files from it to a folder i made on Kubuntu10:10
mel_lol, im trying to get winetools to work, but it keeps asking me if im running under X11 with GTK+ installed10:10
intelikeyhow did you make the folder   and  note that ubuntu is running in ram.   unless you mount a disk you are copying to ram.10:11
intelikeyand did you add the umask i told you to ?10:11
BTJusticesudo mkdir /TEMP10:11
BTJusticeyes I did it like you said10:12
intelikeythere's the answer.  root owns TEMP10:12
intelikeychown10:12
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intelikeyman chown10:12
arunkalethat sounds like a chinese soup10:12
arunkaleheh10:12
BTJusticeLinux still has all these commands you have ot do in terminal I see, lol.10:12
Jucatomel_: I don't think winetools work very well10:12
BTJusticeI am just trying ot get my wireless card to work with ndiswrapper10:13
JucatoBTJustice: it's because the person giving you the instructions want to give you direct and faster instructions10:13
intelikeyor sudo chown `whoami`:`groups | cut -d' ' -f1` /TEMP10:13
BTJusticeI have no idea who I am since I am running Live.10:14
mel_ohh10:14
mel_this is my first time trying it out as well as today being my first day using ubuntu10:15
intelikeyBTJustice just cp /paste that whole line. linux knows who you are.    and "<BTJustice> Linux still has all these commands you have ot do in terminal..."  not so  you could have made the dir in your user's home with the gui and it would have been accessable.10:15
mel_do guys like wine at all?10:15
intelikeyi haven't had any wine in a long time...10:15
Jucatomel_: just use wine. winetools don't work with wine afaik10:16
mel_do know of a good tutorial for it10:16
Jucatoat least not anymore from what I've heard...10:16
intelikeyJucato how can we get the bot to script this for us  ___sudo chown `whoami`:`groups | cut -d' ' -f1` $DIR ___   ???10:17
Jucatointelikey: hm.. we don't10:17
intelikeyoh well it was just a thought.10:17
intelikey:)10:18
Jucato:p10:18
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BTJusticewell shoot, this ndiswrapper page said my xp driver would work for my card but it doesn't.  damnit!10:22
Jucatomel_: well, you could simply just install Wine from our repositories or use winehq's own repository. but since this is your first day to use Linux, I would suggest you try to get familiar with Kubuntu first before diving into slightly more complicated stuff10:22
intelikeydon't you have to kill x to change the driver10:22
BTJusticehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper10:22
BTJusticeI have followed those instructions10:22
intelikeyoh that's on wifi.  i was thinking ati vidio...   duh...10:22
BTJusticeIt appears to be much easier to have hardware Kubuntu already automatically supports.10:22
visik7flash isn't installable anymore10:22
Jucatovisik7: what?10:22
intelikeyyes non-propritary hardware is the answer.10:22
BTJusticelol10:22
visik7Jucato:10:22
Jucatointelikey: like?10:22
mel_yeah, im used gentoo for a while so Im used to things being complicated, lol10:22
BTJusticeI have a TrendNET TEW-423PI wireless card which has the Marvel chipset.10:22
intelikeymy real modem ?10:22
Jucatomel_: ok, I thought you meant it was your first time on Linux :)10:22
intelikey</shrugs>10:22
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BTJustice0000:00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88w8335 [Libertas]  802.11b/g Wireless (rev 03)10:22
BTJusticeSo it already sees it but won;t use it.10:22
arunkaleumm.. in some web pages.. light grey looks like light pink.. how do i fix this?10:22
intelikeyJucato 3d you may never find.  but there are some good cards that open source drivers work well with.10:23
Jucatointelikey: but then, we do need the 3D :P10:23
Jucatoor at least I do10:23
intelikeyneed !   bah.10:23
intelikeywant != need10:24
Jucatogames = need = 3d acceleration :P10:24
intelikeywant > need   sometimes, but that's a different philo10:24
Jucato3d graphics/blender = need = 3d acceleration10:24
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intelikeyphilo' sophia'  knowledge, the love of.10:26
intelikeydeath of many.10:26
Jucatocourse of mine :P10:26
arunkaleanyone?10:26
intelikeyshared, i'm sure10:26
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mel_<jucato> i may as well be, lol10:27
intelikeyarunkale unless setting the hue in the gui will help.  i have no clue.10:27
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BTJusticeThanks for the help guys.10:27
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intelikeykde may be rendering to much enhancement to the opique10:28
arunkaleintelikey: how do i do that?10:28
intelikeyarunkale kcontorl10:28
intelikeykcontrol   even10:29
arunkale??10:29
arunkalei'm in system settings10:29
intelikeyah it's some where in there.  don't make me start a gui just to hunt for it.10:30
arunkalehaha10:30
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intelikeyeeek  i need a kernel face lift.  sound is hosed.10:33
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kaffeineany one lirc spesialists  what mean ./config.cache dialog not found ! after  when i run ./configure in lirc source version 0.8.010:34
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intelikeydialog is an app for convercing with the terminal10:38
KnoKnoplease help! How can I set up internet?10:38
intelikeysudo apt-get install dialog10:38
intelikeyKnoKno can you be more vague ?10:38
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KnoKnomy eng is very bad :D10:38
KnoKnosorry10:38
Jucatointelikey: I can :)10:38
intelikeyJucato you can help KnoKno ?10:38
Jucatointelikey: no, I can be more vague :P10:38
intelikey!network10:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about network - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:38
intelikey!wifi10:38
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:38
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JucatoKnoKno: what language do you speak?10:38
intelikeyyes you are.  i'm network illiterate.10:38
KnoKnolatvian :)10:38
Jucatoooh...10:38
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Jucatointelikey: you? illiterate? that's highly unintelikely10:39
intelikeywell would you at least beleave a high school drop out ?10:39
Jucatono10:39
intelikeyactually i am.10:40
Jucatonot even for one second10:40
Jucatoa millisecond perhaps...10:40
intelikeyi dropped out in the middle of the twelvth grade.10:40
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Jucatoanyway, going back to the topic?10:41
intelikeyjanuary 5 or 6     198310:41
Jucatohm.. that was months away from the day I was born :P10:41
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kaffeineintelikey  u know what driver i need to select for technisat airstar 2 dig- tv card10:41
KnoKno`I need to know where I can specify DNS servers10:41
intelikeyi thought of that when you revealed you starting time stamp.... :)10:42
CroXIs there any good FTP client with gui that's standard in KDE?10:42
CroXCan't find any10:42
JucatoCroX: Konqueror10:42
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JucatoKnoKno: maybe in System Settings > Network Connections ?10:42
CroXJucato: Thanks10:42
devilxhi, I've got a question about Kubuntu in use with kickstart. I have the problem, that Kubuntu (everytime I kickstart it) wants to use security.ubuntu.com as security-updates mirror. In fact, this won't work on the network I'm on, since there is no direct connection to outside hosts, only via squid. Is there a possibillity to change kubuntu's security updates source?10:42
intelikeykaffeine sorry no.  i have no idea.   if google can't help   there is always  #buntu  and  ##linux10:42
intelikeyyou can ask in them10:43
kaffeineok thanks10:43
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intelikeyCroX konqueror is as good as it gets.10:43
KnoKno`there I only see IP, Subnet & gateway fields10:44
CroXintelikey: Hrm.. Maybe Filezilla is available10:45
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intelikeydevilx yes there is.  and you can proxie the connection also    but i don't know enough to even get you confused real well.10:45
JucatoCroX: you said standard in KDE..10:45
CroXJucato: Yeah, I know. And since Konqueror doesn't cut it for me, I'm going outside that. :P10:45
intelikeyCroX apt-cache search ftp | less10:45
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CroXintelikey: Thanks, I'll look around10:46
intelikeygftp is standard in ubuntu  also.10:46
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intelikeyi like ncftp10:46
KnoKno`Ok, I try to find out my problem in kubuntu forums10:46
intelikeybut it's not gui10:46
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arunkaleFTP in konqueror is brilliant10:47
arunkaleit works superfast for me10:47
CroXkftpgrabber looks nice10:48
JucatoCroX: in what way does Konquero not cut it for you?10:48
CroXJucato: For starters, I want two browserwindows10:49
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abattoirhmmm...10:49
CroXJucato: Chances are, ofcourse, that I'm neglecting features I don't know of10:49
JucatoCroX: you can open 2 instances of Konqueror10:49
abattoirHow do i always manage to come when there are debates about browsers? :P10:49
arunkalehaha10:49
visik7flash is broken10:49
abattoirCroX: click at the bottom(status bar)->Split view(horizontal/vertical)10:49
intelikeyCroX sounds like you might like gentoo10:50
Jucatoabattoir: it's not a browser debate10:50
Jucatoit's an FTP client debate :P10:50
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intelikeynot the distro.   the app.10:50
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blackflaghello all :)10:50
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abattoirCroX: does konqueror now have 2 'browserindows' ?10:50
CroXAlso, I like an easily manageble session handler. So I can setup multiple FTP accounts and quickly connect to them10:50
arunkalewhen i'm working with files.. these green 'temp' icons show up.. but they're still thre even after i save and close the file10:50
CroXabattoir: I'll check10:50
abattoirunless you meant something else10:50
CroXabattoir: That's nice10:51
intelikeyarunkale backup files ?   like    blah~10:51
blackflagI want to install software from edgy. I did an entry in sources.list but now I dont know how to get a package from edgy. How can I install a package from edgy? can someone help?10:52
abattoirCroX: that works almost anywhere, so you can browse 2 different sites, or one site, and use ftp in the other, or ssh or bleh, i'm too tired to explain everything :P10:52
arunkaleyeah10:52
arunkalewith the tilde10:52
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Jucatoblackflag: are you running Dapper or Edgy?10:53
blackflagIm running dapper10:53
CroXabattoir: Heh, I get the idea10:53
CroXabattoir: And thanks, that's a nice feature10:54
Jucatoblackflag: it's not good to mix repos from Edgy10:54
abattoirCroX: :), thank the Konq. hackers10:54
blackflagwhy? I thought the software is stable enough10:54
intelikeyblackflag oh you want to break your system.... i'm an expert at this. i'll help.    you do "sudo apt-get update "  to activate the new repo and  then  "sudo apt-get install <name of the app> "   to install it.   and when it breaks we'll have fun fixing it.  :)10:54
blackflag?10:54
arunkaleAlso, how do I change to 'list view' instead of 'thumbnail view'10:54
zorglu_q. i have 2 package .deb on my local disk, but they have dependency on the usual ubuntu repository, i tried apt-get install mypackage.deb to install automatically all the dependancies but it does not get them, is there a way to get all the dependancies automatically ?10:54
blackflagokay10:54
Jucatoblackflag: Dapper's software, but Edgy is still under development10:55
abattoirarunkale: in konqueror?10:55
blackflagbut I need a bacula 1.38 on my systems so I can backup to dvd10:55
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blackflagand dapper comes with 1.3610:55
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blackflagwhat is the best way to get bacula 1.38 on dapper?10:55
arunkaleabattoir: yes10:56
intelikeyblackflag but !   if you don't want to break things  stick with one release version.   you can upgrade to edgy if you like   change all 'dapper' to 'edgy' in your sources.list and do  "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade "10:56
abattoirarunkale: View->View Mode->...10:56
intelikeythat's the better way ^10:57
arunkalethanks!!10:57
arunkalei got fonts to render exactly like they do on os x10:58
blackflaghmmm.. but a totaly upgrade when I only need actually software?10:58
arunkaleeverything looks so awesome now10:58
zorglu_!pcf10:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pcf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:59
blackflagShould I compile bacula 1.38 by myself?10:59
intelikeyblackflag if you only install one edgy package you will start a dependancy chain reaction that will confuse the 'fomas' out of your package manager.10:59
intelikeyyes you can compile it.11:00
blackflagokay, so I better does it not this way11:00
Jucatoblackflag: you could also try if they have a .deb package available? at least one that won't cause problems on Dapper11:00
intelikeyinstall build-essential    grab the tarball and build.11:00
blackflagthere are some deb`s on edgy homepage11:01
Jucatoblackflag: oh don't use those...11:01
intelikeyJucato the version on dapper is 1.36   i just checked.11:01
blackflagokay, I see11:02
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TehKewl1how do I map keyboard shortcuts?11:03
blackflagbut when I compile 1.38 I dont have same problems with dependcies?11:03
JucatoTehKewl1: System Settings > Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard shortcuts11:03
intelikeyTehKewl1 console ?  loadkeys           gui ?   kde has a key mapper11:03
TehKewl1thanx, it was easier in ubuntu breezy :D11:04
TehKewl1woah wait, how do I map volume up and down11:05
intelikeyblackflag no, you avoid the dependancy problems,  as long as you don't remove the compiled software and something else later installed depending on it.11:05
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blackflagahh, okay11:06
intelikeybut you "may" find compilation problems....   there is no perfect answer.  at least not within the paramaters you have set.11:07
TehKewl1is there an action for volume up and down?11:07
blackflagSo I go trying my luck with compiling!11:07
intelikeyso good luck with it and if things error out.  come ask.  and bring the error message.11:07
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intelikey!b-e11:08
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)11:08
arunkaleHow do I get frostwire for kubuntu11:08
blackflagthanks , so far!11:08
Jucato!frostwire11:08
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire11:08
intelikeydont forget that ^ blackflag11:08
arunkaleokay.. thanks11:08
intelikeyblackflag https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware11:08
JucatoTehKewl1: it's in one of those tabs... not sure which one...11:08
arunkaleBtw, Konqueror is super fast as far as FTP goes.. I can transfer files like I do on my local hard drive.. it's that fast!11:08
TheFuzzballwho knows how to install XFCE on kubuntu as a secondary enviroment?11:09
intelikeyTheFuzzball sudo apt-get install xfce411:09
JucatoTheFuzzball: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop11:09
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intelikeydoes he want all the xubuntu stuff ???11:10
Jucatooh well :)11:10
intelikey:)11:10
TheFuzzballthanks11:10
Jucatoif he doesn't: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install xfce11:10
intelikey411:10
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Jucatoerr right11:11
_thomas_how do I get tv out in gnome?11:11
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blackflagis there a good place where I can find prebuild packages?11:11
_thomas_I know it works, I just forgot where the button to enable it is... anyone?11:12
intelikeyblackflag the repos.   but again if you install a .deb that wasnt made for the system you are running  'deps catastrophy'11:12
silensiushow a user can mount a usb disk in kubuntu11:13
blackflaghmm.. is it easy to create own debs?11:13
intelikeysudo mount /dev/sda /media/something11:13
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intelikeyblackflag there are many howto's on that11:14
blackflagokay11:14
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buzanyone seeing issues with flashplayer when updating dapper?11:18
blackflagOkay I ll try compile bacula 1.38-1111:19
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arunkaleopera renders pages badly on my pc... especially pages with flash11:19
abattoirbuz: what does it say? any errors?11:21
buzhttp://pastebin.ca/17726411:22
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intelikeyhehhe i know a fix for that update-rc.d error.  although the *bunbu folks wont like me saying it.    echo /bin/true | sudo tee /usr/sbin/update-rc.d         you might want to backup the existing one first... assuming you will want to undo that.11:25
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buzshould i file a bug report?11:26
intelikeyprolly11:26
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arunkalehow do i fix flash in opera11:30
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arunkaleBy the way, where are the 'temporary files' stored?11:32
intelikey/tmp11:32
intelikeyarunkale which 'temporary files' ?11:33
intelikeycould actually be /var/cache/  you are asking about11:33
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arunkaleI mean what is the linux equivalent of the 'temp' folder in windows? where the temp files from applications and browsers saved11:33
arunkaleis there such a thing?11:34
buz /tmp11:34
arunkaleokay, cool11:34
arunkaleand it's emptied automatically?11:34
buzupon reboot, yes11:34
arunkalebrilliant11:34
arunkale:)11:35
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intelikeyarunkale browsers generally use ~/.<browser.specific>/cache11:36
intelikeyand it's not emptied on reboot  :)11:37
blackflagCan I install bacula 1.38 via backports?11:37
intelikeyshould i look and see what you are wanting to hide  >:] 11:37
intelikeypossably ossably ossably...11:38
intelikeynow, whether to build a 2.4 or a 2.6 kernel....   i think i can make the 2.4 smaller.  but i'm not sure about the scsi support; will my burner work........11:40
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intelikeyabout 800k smaller even.11:41
Zvezdichkooh11:42
Zvezdichko...11:42
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intelikeymaybe i could just make the modules for the kernel i'm running.....    i have to use modules tho.  it's a stand alone kernel.11:42
intelikeyhave/hate11:43
Jazonhi guys11:43
Jazonwhat is a zombie in top ?11:43
intelikeyJazon11:43
Jazonintelikey:11:43
intelikeymeans there is no process but a place holder is still there11:43
intelikeywhen the parent is killed it will vanish11:44
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intelikeypstree11:45
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arunkaleopera is magically working better than firefox :=11:49
arunkale:\11:49
flaccid_it usually does11:49
intelikeyso i hear.11:49
flaccid_tabs in firefox can be slow11:50
flaccid_in comparison11:50
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flaccid_on linux11:50
flaccid_if ur on kde11:50
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flaccid_coz opera is qt11:50
Jucatoheh11:50
Jucatodespite it being Qt, I still didn't fall for it..11:51
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flaccid_i can't find anything better anyway...11:51
Zvezdi`go`nqmare11:51
Jucatonow if only Opera open sourced it's rendering engine...11:52
intelikeydon't forget to ldconfig    <-- note to self.11:52
flaccid_what would you do with it, Jucato?11:52
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JucatoI'll use Opera :P11:52
Jucatonah.. still like Konqueror... EXCEPT in some things... :(11:52
flaccid_i use opera mail11:53
flaccid_v good11:53
JucatoI use kmail :)11:53
flaccid_i like it integrated with browser11:53
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flaccid_more powerful11:53
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ZvezdichkoJucato, what do you think that the best browser is11:53
JucatoI like my mail and feeds separate from the browser :P11:53
intelikeymake[1] : Entering directory `/usr/local/src/kernel-source-2.4.27/scripts/lxdialog'11:53
intelikey /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lncurses11:53
flaccid_its still abstracted in opera11:54
intelikeymake[1] : *** [ncurses]  Error 111:54
flaccid_rss to your inbox11:54
Jucatohonestly, when it comes to rendering, I have to admit it's Firefox... but Konqueror is still the best for me...11:54
intelikeywhat am i mising in that error text ?   ncurses-bin and -base are newest11:54
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serishemai'm trying to set up mod_mono with apache and i've followed the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ModMono but i just cannot get it to work. I always get "internal server error 500" from an application that works with IIS on windows11:54
Jucatoflaccid_: web browser, e-mail client, and feed reader: 3 things I don't want to be mixed... (that's why I don't like Thunderbird)11:54
ZvezdichkoKonqueror is good, but I use firefox11:55
Jucatointelikey: something that installs "ld"?11:55
ZvezdichkoI've red somewhere that there's a browser for Emacs, any idea what was the name?11:55
arunkalewhat happens when i cancel the download when updates are in progress?11:55
intelikeyJucato ?11:55
flaccid_fair enough11:55
Jucatointelikey: err.. nvm...11:55
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intelikey ld --version11:56
intelikeyGNU ld version 2.16.91 20060118 Debian GNU/Linux11:56
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Jucatoif only KDE  improved KHTML to match Gecko (or if Apple helped as they should), maybe Konqueror would be one of those up there...11:58
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flaccid_i think khtml is pretty close11:58
flaccid_just a little behind opera11:58
flaccid_i find firefox worse in some cases css wise than konqueror11:58
Jucatoflaccid_: in terms of rendering: Firefox > Opera > KHTML...11:59
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intelikeysome one know why this might happen ?   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d2407811:59
flaccid_opera, khtml, firefox imho11:59
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serishemaintelikey i'm guessing that ncurses is infact installed even though it says it's not?11:59
flaccid_wikipedia shows similar11:59
Jucatoflaccid_: well, javascript and css11:59
intelikeyncurses-bin is already the newest version   &&   ncurses-base is already the newest version.11:59
flaccid_the head dude of opera is the dude who created css12:00
intelikeyserishema is there another ncurses package i might need ?12:00
serishemancurses-dev if there is such a thing12:00
flaccid_well 1 of the founders or whatever, not sure what he is atm12:00
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Jucatoflaccid_: well, I've only recently felt the pain of KHTML''s inadequacy when it comes to Rich Text Editors of blogs and most of Google's web services...12:01
intelikeydoesn't seem to be any  ncurses-dev12:01
serishemano there doesn't.12:01
flaccid_Jucato: rich text editors? you mean wysiwyg ?12:02
thoreauputic!libncurses5-dev12:02
ubotulibncurses5-dev: Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses. In component main, is optional. Version 5.5-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1276 kB, installed size 5904 kB12:02
Jucatoflaccid_: yes12:02
thoreauputic:)12:02
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intelikeythoreauputic do i need that ?12:02
flaccid_thats more likely proprietery javascript12:02
intelikeysome one know why this might happen ?   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d2407812:02
thoreauputicintelikey: no idea - what are you doing? Compiling something?12:02
intelikeythoreauputic ^12:03
flaccid_google does not use ecmascript 26212:03
Jucatoflaccid_: well, some CSS don't render properly on Konqueror, too12:03
flaccid_yeah some css is wrong in all browers12:03
Jucatoflaccid_: js or css, the problem is that it's barely usable...12:03
flaccid_IE just being the icing12:03
thoreauputicintelikey: yes, you need it :)12:03
intelikeyok.12:03
silensiuset comment12:04
flaccid_Jucato: need to check if javascript or jscript prop. methods are being used and if the js is valid according to ecmascript 26212:04
serishemait's looking like i'm going to have to install windows dual boot just for asp .net development12:04
serishemai'12:04
flaccid_using standards khtml comes ahead of firefox slightly12:04
serishemai suppose i could try compiling apache and mod_mono from source in the hope that will actually work12:04
intelikeythoreauputic that was indeed it.    why does the error point to ncurses not libncurses5-dev  ???12:05
Jucatoflaccid_: yes... but what good are "standards" if no one uses (or enforces) them...12:05
intelikeybut thanks anyway.12:05
flaccid_Jucato: besides IE, all three vendors are working on patches the holes of css and standard javascript support12:05
thoreauputicintelikey: in 99% of cases, in Debian distros these errors refer to lib* - dev12:05
thoreauputicintelikey: other distros use different naming schems12:06
thoreauputic*schemes12:06
Jucatoflaccid_: well I hope so... I hate to have to switch back and forth from Konqueror to Firefox just so that I could use blogs etc12:06
flaccid_remember most sites are still invalid12:06
thoreauputicintelikey: but looks like you are compiling a kernel - the hard way? have you read the kernel howtos on the wiki ?12:07
Jucatoyes, Google being one of them... yet Google's services are so...12:07
flaccid_wikipedia does comparison of all those major browsers12:07
Jucatoof course, part of the problem lies with Google...12:07
thoreauputicintelikey: why do you need 2.4.27 by the way?12:07
flaccid_google does not code the client side to sites to web standards12:07
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Jucato...12:09
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intelikeythoreauputic i haven't read on the wiki, no.   i have built this kernel before so it shouldn't be a problem.   i use 2.4 because i'm building a stand alone bootable from a dos disk with loadlin   and size is far more important than suppore for things this particular hardware doesn't have  :)12:10
intelikeyagain thanks for the heads up on that one thoreauputic12:11
thoreauputicintelikey: OK - you're welcome ( and that makes sense )12:11
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intelikeyactually the running kernel is the 2.4.27   i just needed to add a sound card12:11
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intelikeyseeing there are no modules.  and i changed cards.12:12
intelikeyand 'yes i know i could make the modules.'   :)12:13
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cox377Like the live kubuntu CD that you can download is it possible to create a boot cd of my current installation, so i can boot into another computer with all my current settings etc saved on the CD so it's not a default boot like with the cd thats downloadable off the internet?12:14
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pshas anyone here got ssh-askpass working at login to add your ssh key into the ssh-agent12:15
intelikeycox377 it is possable. yes.  but your installed kubuntu won't fit on a cd.12:15
hettarHas anyone managed to get edgy knot 3 to install with an ATI card ? I just get a black screen once X starts12:16
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intelikeyhettar drop to a console and  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:18
cox377intelikey: Ummmmm... could it be done onto a dvd then? is it possible, when creating this CD/DVD to select the things u want?12:18
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hettarthis is before I even get to the stage of installing it though12:18
hettarthis is when the live CD is booting12:18
intelikeycox377 yes it's possable.  have a look at some knoppix howtos12:18
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cox377intelikey: is that the app that is used to do it?12:19
intelikeyhettar oh yeah....  ah boot with vga=781 maybe ?12:19
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hettarhmm ok I'll give that a try12:19
intelikeyerrr 77112:19
hettark thanks12:19
intelikeyidk.  hit the f1 key and read12:19
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intelikeycox377 that's the techknowledgy used12:20
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hettarhmm actually I have tried different vga modes. the screen only goes black once X starts.12:20
cox377intelikey: ok cheers, looking now.. thanks12:20
intelikeyknoppix is not an app but a distro  and the first to build a good working live CD12:21
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cox377intelikey: so do i need that installed to create a live CD?12:22
kyanohi all12:22
arunkaleif i use opera, i cant use the google talk that comes inbuilt with gmail.. is there any way to fix this?12:22
intelikeyhettar acpi=0   not sure it will work.    i know the issue you are trying to describe.  but if  vga=  and possably  noacpi or acpi=   don't fix it.   i have no help.12:22
intelikeycox377 no you need to read up on how knoppix works and how the live cd is made.12:23
cox377Ahh ok.. chees12:23
hettarOk I'll give the acpi ones a try. although I haven't had acpi issues before.12:23
intelikeycheese to you too12:23
Jucatolol12:23
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intelikeyJucato i'll be away for a bit building a kernel.  if these guys come back see what you can do,  k12:24
Zvezdichkoback12:25
Jucatointelikey: I'll be going away in a bit, too12:25
intelikeyfigures.12:25
cpk2oh noes!12:25
cpk2=P12:25
JucatoI need/want to boot back into Linux :)12:25
intelikeygo12:25
cpk2intelikey, Jucato: do you guys ever sleep?12:26
Jucatohold on. I'm enjoying messing with XP12:26
Jucato:P12:26
cpk2=)12:26
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Jucatocpk2: of course I do. but it's barely 7pm here :P12:26
intelikeycpk2 while you are not here12:26
cpk2i have some awkward sleeping patterns though... hrmm12:26
intelikeynormal is.......  me. it's the rest of the world that's crazy.12:27
cpk2ah, of course!12:28
intelikeyall of ya.  you hear me ?    you are all insane.  i'm the only one sane in the whole world.....12:28
Jucato<intelikey> normal is.......  me. it's the rest of the world that's crazy <-- that's the best sign of psychosis :P12:28
intelikeywell anyway...12:28
Jucatook, signing off now :)12:29
intelikeysigns and wonders is my specality12:29
Jucatobye!!!12:29
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MDCoreHow do I modify the styles in kopete ?12:31
intelikeyvisiting the local mental institution.   i asked the dirrector, what the criteria was, for judging mentel health?    he replied "we give new guests a spoon and a bucket and ask them to empty a bath tub."12:31
intelikeyi said "ah the sane people use the bucket."12:31
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intelikeyto which he replied " no they pull the plug.   please come with me."12:32
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SillyZmornin12:37
Zvezdichkoo/12:38
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intelikeywhat's optamum size for ramdisks on older systems ?  4m ?  2m ?   16m ?     anyone know ?12:43
intelikeyoptimum maybe12:44
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cpk2hmm, how old intelikey?12:46
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intelikeyoh 10 years12:46
cpk2i would say 4-16?12:47
cpk232 at the biggest possibly12:47
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intelikeyno reason not to use 4m then12:47
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cpk2is that for your swap partition?12:48
cox377intelikey: I've found this site, it's for ubuntu and now kubuntu, would there be a difference with something like this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e0612:49
cox377not*12:50
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intelikeyswap ?   who said anything about swap ?     no it's ramdisk size in the kernel12:50
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jackleHi everyone12:51
intelikeycox377 probably not.  the level at which the live CD is built is below the wm or even the xserver12:51
cox377intelikey: so in theory i could follow those instructions12:52
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intelikeyonly thing there may be some gnome specific apps that they mention using in editing and copying files... you can inturpret12:52
cox377intelikey: yeh that's oit, i shall just follow and see what happens12:52
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cox377intelikey: cheers for your help12:52
cpk2intelikey: why not use ramdisk as a module?12:52
intelikeyi.e. gedit == kwrite    or nautilus == konqueror     synaptic == adept   kind of thing cox37712:53
intelikeycpk2 :)12:54
cox377intelikey: cheer12:54
jackleI've done something terrible wrong with my X renderring. Maybe I installed some weird font package but my renderring is SLOOOOOW. Slow as in: If I hover my mouse over the window titles in the taskbar.. the window titles get highllited long after I've had my mouse over it. If I compile a app, the compile text scroll slowly over the screen (you can see the screen getting refreshed). I've got the nvidia driver installed.12:54
jackleAnyone any ideas?12:54
cpk2intelikey: just saying, if you compile into the kernel you are stuck with 4m, with a module you can change it if you want to12:54
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intelikeycpk2 you must not have been here for the discussion,   there wont be any modules.  it's a stand alone kernel.12:55
cpk2intelikey: sorry i missed the debate =P12:56
intelikeynp12:56
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intelikeyjackle i'd say you hosed something.   run top and see if something has cpu at 100%12:57
jackleintelikey: I run folding . but even if I switch folding completely off, the screens are still slow (which was not the case some time ago)12:58
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intelikeyare you saying folding keeps the cpu at 100% ?12:59
jacklefolding keeps it at 100% yes12:59
intelikeyi see12:59
jacklenog X seems to be topping01:00
jackle*now01:00
jackleAs soon as I scroll a bit.. X is at the top01:00
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intelikeyisn't that a heat risk ?   holding cpu at 100%       my p1 is seldom above 3% for more than a second or two01:01
intelikeybut that's not helping you....    jackle  you need a gui wizard... i'm a cli geek myself.01:02
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cpk2intelikey: if you run a game it takes 100% cpu01:02
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jackleat 100% usage, my cpu avg at 28c01:03
intelikeythat's obviously not a lappy01:03
jackleit fells like a font rederring package or something to do with mesa01:04
cpk2my laptop seems to run *a lot* cooler now that it doesnt have a hd in it01:04
intelikeymesa  yep  prolly01:04
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jacklea friend told me on gentoo he has "eselect nvidia" .. what is the kubuntu equivalent?01:05
cpk2well on gentoo you can do anything by using flags01:05
jacklelets say I'm using mesa in stead of nvidia.. how do I switch back to nvidia?01:07
cpk2tell xorg.conf?01:09
jackleI have driver=nvidia .. I suppose that is it?01:10
Jucatojackle: try System Settings > Display > Hardware tab01:10
jackleIt says that the display module could not be loaded.01:11
Jucatohm...01:11
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cox377!pastebin01:12
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:12
cpk2wouldnt dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg put it to default values?01:12
Jucatodriver "nv" is the free/open source driver for Nvidia. driver "nvidia" is the proprietary binary driver, which would only work if you have "nvidia-glx" installed01:12
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jackleI actually did run -reconfigure which didnt help. nvidia-glx is installed01:13
cox377I've got a problem when tyring to update flashplugin01:13
cox377http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2408601:13
cox377thats the error i get, would anyone beable to point out why?01:13
Jucatojackle: couple of things to check: is linux-restricted-modules installed? and does it match the kernel version you are using (uname -r)?01:14
Jucatocox377: silly question, why are you logged in as root?01:15
gnomefreakcox377: try sudo dpkg --configure -a01:15
jackleJucato:  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-amd64-generic, linux-image-2.6.15-27-amd64-generic01:15
cpk2Jucato: silly questions get silly answers01:15
cox377jacato: i've tried what was put "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and it still gave the same error, when not logged into route01:16
Jucatojackle: ok. did you already run nvidia-xconfig (or the equivalent nvidia-glx-config enable)? and did you restart X after that?01:16
cox377root*01:16
gnomefreakcox377: is this ubuntu's package?01:17
cox377name kubuntu?01:18
cox377nah***01:18
gnomefreakcox377: did you get it from the flash website or in the repos?01:18
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GnarusLeoHi! I have just bought the sony ericcsson k610 cellphone. I have heard that it is possible to SYNC the Callendar/appointments with this phone on ubuntu ... does anyone have a good start for me?01:18
cox377gnomefreak: from repos01:18
cox377gnomefreak: i ran the apt-get install update and it broiught that up, then it gave an error and told me to run sudo dpkg --configure -a so i did and thats what i got01:19
gnomefreakcox377: ill be right back have to go outside for a min01:19
emonkey-phttp://blog.outer-court.com/click2/01:20
GnarusLeoAnyone ever syncronized a cellphone with ubuntu before?01:20
cox377gnomefreak: kk01:21
cox377GnarusLeo: as in getting ubuntu to read the phones chip?01:22
abattoirGnarusLeo: i know the svn version of kmobiletools has a kontact(KDE's pim application) plugin which works well, dont know if the stable versions have it though01:22
abattoir!info kmobiletools01:22
ubotukmobiletools: KDE application for controlling your mobile phone. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.3.1-3ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 179 kB, installed size 820 kB01:22
GnarusLeocox377, i was more thinking of syncronizing the callendar and stuf01:22
cox377GnarusLeo: ahh ok01:22
GnarusLeoI actually have kmobiletools, but I dont know which one my phone is /dev/something_wierd ... how would I know?01:22
jackleJucato: yes. nvidia-xonfig to set up X and then -enable and I've restarted multiple times01:23
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abattoirGnarusLeo: how are you connecting it? (bluetooth, IR, data cable) ?01:23
GnarusLeoUSB data cable01:23
GnarusLeoabattoir,01:23
GnarusLeoor I could use bluetooth, either way is fine01:23
abattoirGnarusLeo: does your phone offer a syncmode/data mode on connection?01:23
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GnarusLeoabattoir, actually I think it does, give me a sec!01:24
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abattoirGnarusLeo: i mean, does it become a USB mass storage device on connection?01:24
abattoirGnarusLeo: i'd love to help you, but i have to go now :(01:24
GnarusLeoabattoir, I can choose something like "file transfeer" or some other otion, Ill check01:24
abattoirGnarusLeo: if the stable version does not have the plugin... and if you are familiar w/ doing an svn check out, and compiling, then i'd suggest trying the svn version01:25
GnarusLeoI am, and I will, thanks01:25
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abattoirGnarusLeo: http://www.kmobiletools.org/svn01:26
GnarusLeoBut cox377 and abattoir: how would I know wich tty my phone is?01:26
abattoirGnarusLeo: you might also want to check the list of supported phones01:26
intelikeyi must have cron or at running....   i thought i fixed all that krap.01:26
GnarusLeoits connected and ready (not as usb mass storage)01:26
GnarusLeoabattoir, ok01:26
abattoirGnarusLeo: i'm sorry, i *really* have to go now01:26
GnarusLeoits ok :) Thanks dude01:26
abattoirif someone here cant help, try #kmobiletools01:27
abattoirbye01:27
intelikeyGnarusLeo wvdialconf  let it find it for you01:27
cox377GnarusLeo: i was actully interested in your question as i'm looking to get my mobile hooked up01:27
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GnarusLeook cox377, maybe Well sort it together01:29
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cox377lol01:29
cox377I just want to be able to access the images that are sitting on my phone chip without having to take the thing out01:29
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gnomefreakcox377: sudo dpkg -r flashplugin-nonfree01:35
gnomefreakcox377: once it removed please sudo apt-get install flasshplugin-nonfree01:36
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GnarusLeohow do I configure from svn with kubuntu? I seem to get errors on all ... I download the svn. then I use "make -f admin/Makefile.common" then ./confgure .. then make, but it fails each time01:43
cox377gnomefreak: cheers mate01:43
GnarusLeoon all svn I try01:43
gnomefreakworks?01:43
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cox377gnomefreak: just doing it now, P.S is there a way to go from root to normal from command without having to close and reopen terminal01:44
GnarusLeoand .configure does not fail01:44
gnomefreakcox377: just type exit01:44
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cox377gnomefreak: i'm still getting an error01:45
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cox377just getting it into pastebin01:45
lishHuahua: ^.^01:46
cox377gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2409301:46
cox377sorry mate, this is irratating for both of us lol01:46
syn__i cant activate my soundcard...any help?01:46
gnomefreakcox377: give me a few im working on something atm01:47
cox377gnomefreak: ok mate, thanks for all your helo01:47
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GnarusLeo'make -f Makefile.cvs && ./configure && cd XXX && make' <--- isnt that standard procidure for compiling SVN?01:48
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syn__i cant activate my soundcard...any help?01:54
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BadWolfhi is that normal, that i can't run servers on an ubuntu system?01:55
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mth`MAWermh?01:55
mth`MAWNo?!01:55
mth`MAWWhat do you mean?01:56
intelikeysyn__ cat /proc/asound/cards01:56
GnarusLeoCan anyone please check why this fails? http://pastebin.com/79047501:56
GnarusLeoits a nightly01:57
GnarusLeoAll compilations Ive tried fails01:57
GnarusLeoover nightly and svn01:57
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MasterEvilAce140 updates to kubuntu Edgy? OMG. how often do they update the software? damn01:58
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MasterEvilAcei know it's the dev version right now, but that's a lot :P01:58
intelikeyGnarusLeo i'd say the makefile is bad.01:59
intelikeyMasterEvilAce some of it every day.01:59
GnarusLeointelikey, I have tried several svn (different applications even), and it gives the same error01:59
GnarusLeois there something Im missing here?01:59
intelikeyGnarusLeo you got build-essential installed ?02:00
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GnarusLeomake -f admin/Makefile.common02:00
thorgalhi. I am trying to chmod a bash script to run as root. Unfortunately, despite having corrent flags it still runs as my user.  I realize that "ubuntu is not debian", but this particular things has worked on all unix boxes I used to date. what am I doing wrong?02:00
GnarusLeointelikey, whats that?02:00
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intelikey!b-e02:00
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)02:00
intelikeygo read ^02:00
MasterEvilAceoh SNAP.. is the newest usplash actually good now?02:00
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intelikeywell i'm went.   gooday  fellas'02:01
BadWolfGnarusLeo: want to run an ftp server... but i can't connect to it with telnet for example02:01
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BadWolfnmap on localhost doesn't work too02:01
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|lostbyte|!mcopy02:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mcopy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:05
jackleDoes anyone know how I can reinstall the kde-control-centre Display module?02:05
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|lostbyte|jackle,  sudo apt-get install --reinstall kcontrol02:07
jackle|lostbyte|: and if the module then still doesnt want to load?02:07
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Morbo((((((((((((((   Good Morning Friends   ))))))))))))))))))))02:11
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kaffeinels02:14
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kaffeinewhy i get "no make utility found on this system" when i try to run ./configure in source02:17
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Morticekaffeine: apt-get install build-essential02:18
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seanOneparp?02:27
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kaffeinemortice  now it say  kernel source files missing can i get it with apt-get02:29
Morticeyea02:29
Morticesudo apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r`02:29
Morticemake sure to include those back-ticks02:29
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kaffeineooh thanks is that all i need02:34
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Morticekaffeine: great. good luck with the build! :)02:34
tobstarrhi02:34
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tobstarrdoes anybody know why ubuntu is not updating firefox? are there any problems with the 1.5.0.6 or 1.5.0.7 versions?02:35
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tobstarr!firefox02:35
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins02:35
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kaffeinemortice  is 2.4.27 latest version of kernel headers02:39
wedgeVi get "mplayer: undefined symbol: a52_resample" when running mplayer02:39
wedgeVon edgy02:39
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CViruswedgeV: ask on #Ubuntu02:41
CViruswedgeV: and why are you using edgy if you dont want to fix this error yourself !02:41
Morticekaffeine: no, it's not. is that what apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r` installed?02:41
CVirusbrb .. reboot02:42
kaffeineno its 2.6.15 but it only give these 2.4.2702:42
Morticehuh? apt-get tells you it's installing 2.6.25 kernel headers, and installs the headers for 2.4.27?02:43
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kaffeineyea why02:43
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Morticecould you pastebin the output of apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r` please?02:44
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NeoSakiw00t02:45
NeoSakiI got my ATI 9700 pro to run glxgears at ~5000fps02:46
NeoSakibeastly02:46
MenZalol02:46
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NeoSakiHey anyone know if Flash 8.5 will enable Flash on a 64-bit platform02:49
kaffeine mortice   how i can change language in console so uoy understand the word im from finland so i have finish console02:49
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NeoSakikinda makes me wonder about Macromedia if they are not even up-to-date with what is now a standard02:49
HawkwindNeoSaki: We won't see any new flash until flash 9 for Linux after the first of the year and doubtful they'll make a 64Bit version02:49
Morticekaffeine: i'm not actually sure, sorry. but I'll be able to decipher it in finnish, i think :)02:50
Hawkwind64Bit is far from a 'standard' thankfully.  It won't be for a couple more years atleast02:50
kaffeineok :)02:50
MasterEvilAcehaving a problem with latest full upgrade in Edgy... two python upgrades are erroring = "AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'old_versions'" ... dist-upgrade -f isn't helping02:50
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NeoSakiHawkwind: Psh...Its a standard to me02:51
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NeoSakiI haven't had a 32-bit processor since the AMD64 was released02:51
MasterEvilAce64bit is what you should aspire to have.. however it's not standard in popularity02:52
NeoSakiNeither has most of your friends02:52
Umntwanahello there02:52
NeoSakiof my friends*02:52
seanOneHawkwind, that's like really out of date from the 70s.02:52
HawkwindseanOne: Huh ?02:53
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GnarusLeoIf I want to have controll over appointments, birthdays and such in kubuntu, and as well sync this to my k610i cellphone ... wich will be the best way?02:55
kaffeinemortice here is pastebin.com/79050802:57
Umntwanaleave02:58
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kaffeinemortice did u get the link03:02
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Morticekaffeine: yes, thanks. attempting to load it now. pastebin.com is slow today03:02
Morticekaffeine: you didn't type the command i told you to type.03:03
Morticekaffeine: but i did tell you to type the wrong command anyway. my bad.03:03
Morticekaffeine: type "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`"03:04
kaffeineok03:04
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Xanithhey how do i edit my grub configuration?03:07
Xanithi have installed windows on a second hard drive03:07
Morticeedit /boot/grub/menu.lst03:07
Xaniththe only way i can switch between windows and linux is to change the mbr in my bios03:07
Xanithi should be able to just add the location in grub correct?03:07
Morticeyea, provided that when your mbr is set to point to linux, grub loads up03:08
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Xanithyea i want to leave the mbr set to linux, because 90% of the time i'll use linux03:08
Xanithbut i want to be able to just choose windows or linux instead of switching it in the bios everytime03:08
Morticeyea03:08
Morticethat's what grub is for :)03:08
kaffeinemortice it cant find any packages i send pastebin soon03:08
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Morticekaffeine: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list as well, please.03:09
Xanithany website that shows the grub configuration for a windows setup?03:09
Mortice!grub03:09
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:09
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Xaniththanks03:09
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Isossany idea?03:10
IsossHi guys ... I can't get konversation to work and I think that's because I am behind a proxy server. with XChat I can specify the proxy and the port, but can't find that in konversation03:10
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Mortice;)03:10
jfdbmihow do I find my root passwd? On install from the live cd i did not type any03:10
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NeoSakijfdbmi: your root pass = your normal pass03:11
Mortice!sudo > jfdbmi03:11
MorticeIsoss: AFAICT, konversation doesn't have working proxy support03:11
Isosshow can I get it to work then?03:12
flavioribeirohi everyone, when i try to install the flashplayer plugin, i receive this message: ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supportedby the Macromedia Flash Player installer.03:12
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flavioribeirowhat can i do to fix it?03:12
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MorticeIsoss: use a different client?03:12
NeoSakiflavioribeiro: you have to install 32-bit firefox03:12
flavioribeiroim using konqueror03:12
NeoSakiflavioribeiro: then install the flash plugin03:12
ZvezdichkoIsoss, or install bnc on the server03:13
Isosswhat server?03:13
flavioribeirook NeoSaki thanks man03:13
NeoSakiflavioribeiro: konqueror is a bitch to make it use flash03:13
flavioribeirohehehehehe03:13
Isosswhat is bnc anyway?03:13
Zvezdichkothe computer where the proxy is installed03:13
Zvezdichkothe proxy server03:13
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Isossit's my ISP03:13
kaffeinemortice links are 790522 and 79052703:13
Zvezdichkothen try another client03:14
Morticekaffeine: it's much easier for me to open them if you paste the entire URL, but thanks03:14
IsossI think that's a weakness in konversation that it can't work behind proxy servers03:14
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Zvezdichkoinstall xchat03:14
Zvezdichkoit has proxy support03:14
IsossI have it03:14
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tom__wuld anyone know why when i apt-get linux-headers-686 no new kernel appears in /boot?03:15
Morticeor irssi, or pretty much any other client but konversation03:15
Isossthanks anyway03:15
flavioribeirohey NeoSaki u have free time to teach me how to mount win here? if no, no problem03:15
NeoSakimount win?03:15
ninniuzshouldnt u download linux-image?03:15
Ash-FoxHeh, new kernel update... again03:15
flavioribeiroi will google03:15
NeoSakimount your windows drive?03:15
flavioribeiroNeoSaki:  yes03:15
Zvezdichkobe blessed, Isoss03:15
flavioribeirojust to play my mp3s03:16
screamhola,hay algun espaol??03:16
NeoSakiflavioribeiro: hrm...odd...kubuntu normally sets it up auto for me03:16
NeoSaki!es03:16
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:16
Morticekaffeine: I'm confused as to how you've ended up with 2.6.15-27. Where did you get your kernel from?03:16
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tom__i did apt-get on every linux headers, nothing new in my /boot or grub.conf03:16
arunkalehello03:16
Ash-FoxI really miss how package managers under RPM distros would tell you the reason for the update.03:16
flavioribeiro!br03:16
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.03:16
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ninniuztom I think you need linux-image packages...dont know if I'm right03:17
Morticetom__: the linux-headers packages don't install new kernels. They install files against which you can build modules for the relevant kernels.03:17
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Morticetom__: to install new kernels, get linux-image packages03:17
tom__Mortice, i installed linux-headers last time and i got a new kernel03:17
tom__ooooh riight03:17
tom__my bad, now i feel like an idiot03:17
jprenaudhi all03:17
ninniuz:p03:17
tom__lol thanks Morticec03:17
tom__-c03:17
Morticeheh. don't feel like an idiot, tom__. we all make similar mistakes03:17
mneisenhi all! I have problems to upgrade amarok from 1.4.1 to 1.4.3. The reason is that libvisual-plugins are only available in version 0.2 while amarok 1.4.3 requires libvisual0.4-plugins.03:17
kaffeinemortice  sory next time  i wil pastebin right i got it from one friend i need to ask where he did got it but i think from ubuntus home page03:18
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XanithHey I followed that howto but it says Unknown Partition Type...03:18
jprenaudanybody updated flashplugin-nonfree recently? i have a problem.03:18
ninniuzmneisen: I compiled it myself and it is working03:18
Morticekaffeine: well, 2.6.15-27 isn't in any of the repositories, so you'll have difficulties getting headers for it easily. Is there any reason why you can't get 2.6.15-26?03:18
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ninniuzme too jprenaud03:18
Zvezdichkojprenaud, downloaded it today, it's ok03:18
ninniuzthere must be something wrong in the package03:18
ninniuzdpkg exists with an error03:19
mneisenninniuz: could you give a short howto?03:19
jprenaudit looks like like rc-update.d is not called properly03:19
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MorticeXanith: Unknown Partition Type what?03:19
ninniuzyes jprenaud the same here03:19
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ninniuzmneisen: what kind of distro are u using?03:20
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Xanithi did the chain loading or whatever in grub like the howto told me to03:20
Xanithi changed it to root (hd 1,0)...03:21
Xanithand it says Unknown Partition Type03:21
Xanithwhich the partition type is NTFS03:21
jprenaudninniuz:  any idea how to sort this out?03:21
MorticeXanith: probably best to pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst03:21
mneisenninniuz: I use kubuntu 6.06.03:21
Xanithk just a sec03:22
ninniuzjprenaud: not yet...we should probably check the package and the install scripts03:22
ninniuzmneisen: couldnt u just update your sources.list and apt-get amarok?03:22
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jprenaudninniuz: first time i've had a problem with apt-get, no idea where to start. what is update-rc.d called from?03:23
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Satafterhwhats the opengl desktop called? I hope someone knows what i meen03:23
Xanithhttp://pastebin.com/79052903:24
ninniuzjprenaud: it is called from a script in the package...let me try and figure it out03:24
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ninniuzSatafterh: are you talking about the windows manager? compiz? cgwd? the x server xgl?03:24
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Satafterh<ninniuz> yes thank you03:25
Satafterhxgl03:25
Satafterhis that or something like it going to be part of the next release?03:25
MorticeXanith: that looks right to me. is your windows partition accessed via /dev/hdb1?03:26
tom__dual core owns :)03:26
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Morticetom__: got the right kernel going now? :)03:26
Satafterhi wish i could aford dual core03:26
tom__yes Mortice thank u03:26
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ninniuzSatafterh: I just switched back from xgl to xorg03:26
Morticegood stuff :)03:26
ninniuzand I have core a dual core processor03:27
XanithMortice: no it's /dev/sdb103:27
ninniuzit got to slow after a while03:27
ninniuztoo03:27
XanithMortice: it's a SATA hd...03:27
Satafterh<ninniuz> why you switch03:27
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MorticeXanith: ah, that should be ok anyway.03:27
ninniuzcause after a day it was on it was utterly impossible to control my system anymore03:27
MorticeXanith: I'm afraid I'm not a grub expert, by any means. You might try asking in #ubuntu...03:27
tom__lol03:27
Satafterhi wonder how long it will be befor dual core is a must have03:28
jprenaudninniuz: just noticed the package is from dapper backports...03:28
tom__aaww webmin cant be gotten thru apt-get03:28
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ninniuzjprenaud: isnt it from multiverse?03:29
CroXI'm having trouble getting my WLAN connection to work03:29
ninniuzwhat's the problem CroX?03:29
manu__alguien sabe algun repositorio para ubuntu de xpde03:29
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CroXninniuz: It just wont work :P03:30
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ninniuzlol03:30
CroXninniuz: I set it up as it should be, methinks, and used ath0 for routing. But alas, nothing03:30
mneisenninniuz: I did apt-get update and then apt-get dist-upgrade. 2 packages - amarok and amarok-xine - are hold back due to libvisual-plugins.03:30
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GnarusLeoIf I want to have controll over appointments, birthdays and such in kubuntu, and as well sync this to my k610i cellphone ... wich will be the best way?03:30
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ninniuzmneisen: cant you upgrade libvisual as well? I installe 0.4003:31
emonkey-p!kmobiletools afaik03:31
ubotukmobiletools: KDE application for controlling your mobile phone. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.3.1-3ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 179 kB, installed size 820 kB03:31
CroXninniuz: Think you could help me out?03:31
ninniuzCroX: you have to tell a bit more03:32
CroXninniuz: What do you need to know?03:32
jprenaudninniuz:  multiverse "component" from the backport "pocket" https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree03:32
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dennisterhi all03:32
dennisteranyone awake and present?03:33
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ninniuzmmmmmm03:33
Morticeplenty of people03:33
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kaffeine mortice  yes its from ubuntus home page can i use kerne.org sources03:33
dennistergreat! was pretty quiet in terms of dialog03:33
ninniuzCroX: router? access point? static ip or dhcp? what kind of tools are you using?03:33
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Morticekaffeine: why not just apt-get install kernel-image-386?03:33
_christian_sb here?03:34
CroXninniuz: One moment03:34
dennisteranyone know how to fix a mysql installation? have no mysqld file(s), mysqld_safe doesn't work...think there's a pre-existing socket problem03:34
kaffeinemortice: yea i try03:34
llxcamxllcan you get dvd's to work in kaffeine?03:34
Morticesorry, i mean linux-image-38603:34
Ash-Foxdennister, install it?03:35
Mortice!dvd03:35
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages03:35
llxcamxllk03:35
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dennisterash-fox: i did install it, but it can't start, error message is about the mysqld.sock, and that's missing from the appropriate directory03:35
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dennisterand there was that socket pointing to a tmp directory prior03:36
Ash-Foxdennister, you installed mysql-server package, correct?03:37
dennisteryes, from synaptic03:37
kaffeine mortice yes to my home computer dvd work but  i haven try in my working place03:37
Ash-Foxdennister, mysql-client and mysql-admin too?03:37
dennisteryes03:37
kaffeine  sory mortice wrong guy03:38
Ash-Foxdennister, I'm testing, give me a moment :)03:39
dennisterhold on: no, mysqladmin is not showing...let me fix03:39
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Ash-Foxdennister, do the following after it's installed: cd /usr, sudo ./bin/mysql_install_db --user=mysql,03:40
Ash-Foxsudo mysql -u root03:40
Ash-Fox(Last command sets the root password)03:40
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Morticeerm. logging in to mysql as root when there's no password set won't set the root password03:41
Morticeyou need to do that within the mysql console03:41
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shegmanerm. i installed kubuntu all on one partition. then i edited /etc/fstab so a partition with /home from an suse installation is mounted into the sytem. now my clock is gone :) how can i get it back?03:41
mneisenninniuz: no, there is no libvisual newer than 0.2 in my sources.03:42
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MorticeSET PASSWORD FOR 'root@localhost' = PASSWORD('MyNewPassword');03:42
ninniuz:O03:42
Ash-Foxshegman, unlock your panel, then add the clock applet03:42
ninniuzwait03:42
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llxcamxll_!dvd03:44
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages03:44
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kaffeine mortice is this finnish kubuntu a litle deficient it only found 2.4.... images and headers03:44
shegmanAsh-Fox. sure. how stupid. thanks :)03:44
ninniuzmneisen: I dont remember if I downloaded and installed myself...03:44
Morticekaffeine: that's a little odd. I don't know. let me see if there's a finnish channel.03:44
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mneisenninniuz: where would i do that03:45
mneisen?03:45
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Mortice!fi03:45
ubotuSuomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi03:45
Morticethere you go :)03:45
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Ptit_NicoHello all :)03:45
Ptit_NicoAll apologies for my english, i'm french03:45
Morticehi Ptit_Nico :)03:46
Ptit_Nicoi have a tiny question03:46
orizontgfhhj03:46
Morticeif we can't help you, try vvv03:46
Mortice!fr03:46
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.03:46
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Ptit_NicoHello Mortice03:46
kaffeinemortice thanks i allready found it03:46
Morticebut we'll try anyway03:46
ninniuzmneisen: but I really don't think I did...have u got the universe repos on?03:46
dennistermortice: can't get to the sql console03:46
Morticedennister: "mysql -u root -p" should get you there03:46
Ash-FoxIf anyone is expirencing loss of e-mail from yahoo, it could be that stupid ad they're appending to the end of e-mails: All New Yahoo! Mail  Tired of Vi@gr@! come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you.03:46
sudhiplease any body help me to install firefox......... i tried...... but can't03:46
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Morticeif mysql-server is installed and running, that is03:46
Ptit_Nicowell, i come from Kubuntu Fr but nobody can help me03:47
Ptit_Nicoso i try my question here03:47
MorticePtit_Nico: like i say, we'll try in here :)03:47
Ptit_Nico...if it s possible03:47
Ptit_Nicook great ^^03:47
Ptit_Nicoso03:47
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Ptit_Nicokubuntu 6.06.1 KDE 3.5.403:47
Ptit_Nicomy trash is the bar near to the clock03:48
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Morticeyes, that's right03:48
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Ptit_Nicoi wanted an icon on desktop, so i made a link on my desktop03:48
Ptit_Nicoit work good03:48
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Ptit_Nicobut03:48
dennistermortice: k, ur command resulted in new prompt for a password; when I did this before (different installation) i remember there was supposed to be 2 accounts, one superuser with a name, and then a less-priviledged one03:49
Ptit_Nicothe icon is always the trash empty even tjhe trash is full03:49
CroX_ninniuz: It's working alright now, thanks anyway03:49
Ptit_Nicosee ?03:49
mneisenninniuz: http://pastebin.com/79054103:49
ninniuzmneisen : try and add this source to your repos - deb http://imbrandon.com/packages dapper amarok03:49
MorticePtit_Nico: ah, ok. let me just see if i can reproduce that on a different kde version.03:50
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Ptit_Nico@ Mortice : ok thxs for helping03:50
TheGateKeepersudhi: apt-get install firefox03:50
dennisterwhich password and account am i setting up now?, since it's asking me for this password?03:50
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Morticedennister: that'll be the root password03:50
MorticePtit_Nico: yea, it will always do that. there must be a way around it, let me do a web search03:51
dennistermy usual root password?03:51
dennistercan't be, cause i'm already in root03:51
Morticedennister: the mysql root user is different from the system root user03:51
Ptit_Nico@ Mortice : Google didn't help me... :-/03:51
ninniuzmneisen: nop I didnt get my libvisual from there03:52
MorticePtit_Nico: found it, i'll tell you what to do in PM03:52
dennisterexactly...k, setting up the superuser password03:52
Ptit_Nico@ Mortice : wow    O_o  THXS03:52
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mneisenninniuz: hmmm, now what?03:54
ninniuzjust a sec03:55
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mneisenok ... didnt want to hurry ... :-)03:56
ninniuzof course you tried something like apt-get install libvisual-0.40-plugins right?03:56
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ninniuzI meant apt-get install libvisual-0.4-plugins03:57
TenkawaAnyone running the new edgy knot 3 yet?03:57
Tenkawaopinions?03:57
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Tenkawagoing to test it on x86 and ppc tonight03:58
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dennistermortice: still having trouble setting root password...use the command and substited a new one for MyNewPassword, and error message is a 'syntax error near unexpected token '('03:58
ninniuzmneisen: I installed libvisual-0.4-plugins from imbrandon repos...but they are not there anymore :(03:59
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mneisenReading package lists... Done03:59
mneisenBuilding dependency tree... Done03:59
mneisenPackage libvisual-0.4-plugins is not available, but is referred to by another package.03:59
mneisenThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or03:59
mneisenis only available from another source03:59
mneisenE: Package libvisual-0.4-plugins has no installation candidate03:59
mneisenok, so i am not the only one missing them.03:59
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Jucato_ninniuz, mneisen: try the dapper-backports?04:00
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ninniuzyups you're right04:01
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ninniuzbut it seems libvisual-0.4-plugins is not there either04:01
dennisterI also still don't know if mysql is up and running yet04:02
Jucato_hm... hold on...04:02
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seanOneThe libvisual 4 is there but the libvisual-plugins is only version 0.204:03
ninniuzyes04:03
ninniuzI dont know what amarok needs...if it is just the header files or plugins as well (I suppose it does)04:04
Jucato_ninniuz: how about the kubuntu.org repo04:04
mneisenJucato: I have it in my sources.list - nada.04:05
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ninniuzJucato_: lets check04:05
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seanOnehttp://www.localhost.nl/~synap/libvisual-wiki/index.php/Libvisual_0.4.004:05
seanOnedidn't shine much light on the problem04:05
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ninniuznot there either04:05
Jucato_btw, what version of amarok?04:06
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ninniuz1.4.304:06
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ninniuzI could install it cause I got libvisual-0.4 from imbrandon repos some time ago04:06
dennistermortice?04:06
Jucato_hm... it seems to be in the amarok 1.4.2 repository04:07
Morticedennister: you need to read some howtos, i think04:07
ninniuzlol you're right04:07
Morticedennister: i could help you every step of the way, but reading the documentation would be a lot quicker.04:07
seanOneWhat's the 1.4.2 repo addy pls?04:08
dennisteri've been reading and searching for hours04:08
DannilionAdept crashed and now I can't use anything apt. Does anyone know the command to unlock it?04:08
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ninniuzmneisen: just add deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-142 dapper main to your repositories04:08
ninniuzthen get libvisual04:08
ninniuzand change that line to amarok-latest and get Amarok 1.4.304:08
dennisterthey commands don't usually work for me...they're usually for another dist, or version, or some different environment04:08
Morticedennister: have you read what's in /usr/share/doc/mysql-server?04:09
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dennisteryes, that's familiar to me...looked for that doc specifically04:09
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Morticei don't understand how you can have read all these documents and not know how to check the status of the mysql service. :/04:10
seanOneI already had "http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-143 dapper main" to no avail04:10
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dennisterI would follow the commands, and get the error, especially about checking the mysqld directory for the mysqld.sock; it's still missing04:11
ninniuzseanOne: what?04:11
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Jucato_so here's what you could do: add the amarok-142 repos so that you could install libvisual-0.4-plugins04:12
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dennisterbut i realize this is a pain, holding my hand every step of the way, so let me try once again, now that *something* worked04:12
seanOneI said I already had the 1.4.3 repos set up, maybe the 1.4.2 ones will do the job although adept just crashed.04:13
Dannilionadept just crashed for me, too04:14
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Jucatohm...04:14
JucatoI just noticed there were new updates...04:14
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Jucatohm... the flashplugin update?04:15
seanOnereboot time, just like windows04:15
Jucatooh well, here goes everything :P04:15
JucatoseanOne: why?04:15
mneisenninniuz: I found another way: simply fixing one shortcoming of my sources.list! I added dapper-backports, now everything is fine.04:15
mneisenninniuz: thank you very much for3 your help.04:16
DannilionThe flashplugin update hasn't worked for about 24 hours here04:16
Jucatobtw, they're fixing the libvisual-0.4-plugin/dapper-backports plugin as we speak04:16
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Dannilionoh, good :)04:16
DannilionWhat happened to make you go off flash?04:17
ninniuzgood :)04:17
JucatoI dunno...04:17
ninniuzJucato: having problems with flashplugin as well?04:17
JucatoI just stopped...04:17
Jucatowell, Adept couldn't install it, trying the konsole04:18
Dannilionninniuz: I think a few people are having problems with flashplugin04:18
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Jucatoah yes, couldn't install04:18
ninniuzyes04:18
DannilionI couldn't get it to work in adept, synaptic, or the konsole04:18
ninniuzI have found a patch04:18
ninniuztrying it04:18
Jucatoheh..04:18
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Dannilionwhere's the patch (if it works?)04:18
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ninniuzhttp://librarian.launchpad.net/3434251/update-flashplugin.patch04:21
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Jucatoninniuz: whom did it come from?04:22
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ninniuzhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/5223704:24
Jucatook, why in the world did that not come up in my search?04:25
ninniuzdunno04:25
ninniuzthe problem is I STILL dont know how to make a deb file :)04:25
Jucato:)04:26
Hawkwindninniuz: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5100304:26
Hawkwindninniuz: Takes less than 10 minutes :)04:26
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Jucatoninniuz: it's not the same bug04:26
ninniuzare you sure? I just checked that file and it still has got negative return values and those symlinks04:27
Jucatoninniuz: are your error messages similar to those on bug 52237?04:28
ninniuzerr actually they are not :p04:29
Jucatobug 61404 and 61444 are the correct ones04:30
Jucatohttps://launchpad.net/products/dapper-backports/+bug/6140404:30
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ninniuzthe fact is I dont know what's calling update-rc04:34
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erik_hi all :04:36
erik_:)04:36
Morticehello :)04:36
erik_i just downloaded a apple theme for KDE, but now i want to apply it....04:37
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erik_how do i do that/04:37
zorglu_q. i would like to change the mimetype handling in firefox, any suggestion ? when i download with .m3u, it launch me .vlc, i would like it to run amarok.04:37
Hawkwinderik_: Look in kcontrol under Look & Feel there should be a place there for themes and other stuff04:38
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tom__can anyone tell me what i need to install to get stdio.h time.h ctype.h sys/types.h and string.h04:39
ninniuzthis is the standard c lib dev files04:40
Morticetom__: should be installed with gcc. sudo apt-get install build-essential04:40
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seanOneAmarok 1.4.3 says it needs libvisual 0.4.0 and libvisual plugin 0.4.0 the libvisual 0.4.0 is available from the repos but the plugin is only version 0.2.0 and it don't go. Anyone propose a solution?04:40
tom__ok lemme trry04:40
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ninniuzseanOne: get them from the amarok 1.4.2 repos04:41
erik_yeah the look and feel is there, only the apple them isnt there04:41
seanOneNope, doesn't work04:41
HawkwindseanOne: It's being fixed as we speak04:41
HawkwindseanOne: For now, you can add the 1.4.2 repo to get the libvisual stuff until they get put into the 1.4.3 repo04:41
HawkwindseanOne: It worked here perfectly without a problem04:41
seanOneKewl, always like hawkwind mind you, Michael Moorcock is a personal hero <g>04:42
JucatoseanOne: their fixing it right now, don't know when it will be uploaded to dapper-backports, though04:42
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tom__woot thanks Mort04:44
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tom__lol04:44
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oktohello all...how do you get rid of google search plugin feature in konq while in the kubuntu file manager profile? i can only get rid of it for konq with kubuntu web profile04:45
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seanOneWell I dunno how you can have the handle Hawkwind and not know who Mr. Moorcock is, Dancers at the end of time etc.04:47
zorglu_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Moorcock <- i didnt knew either :)04:47
seanOneOKay then the amarok 1.4.2 repo works but the 1.4.3 one doesn't, tcha.04:47
seanOneCheers for the assist04:47
HawkwindseanOne: The nick Hawkwind doesn't come from a book or the band actually.  It comes from the RPG game series called Ultima that started in 1980 and is still around today04:47
Jucatookto: it shouldn't be there at all. are you sure that it's the Google search you're seeing and not the filter search?04:48
HawkwindOne of these days the band will let Hawkwind.com drop and I'll claim it and make myself famous and explain the story :)04:48
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oktoJucato: hmmmm, my mistake... it is indeed the filter search...lol...thank you for point that out04:50
MorticeHawkwind: knowing the shenanigans that have gone on over the hawkwind name amongst former band members in the past, I doubt the domain name will ever be available.04:50
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HawkwindMortice: True.  I can only hope, pray and wish that one day it'll happen04:51
Morticeheh04:51
Morticei only hope that the rest of the band now playing as space ritual one day see some royalty payments for silver machine.04:52
HawkwindThough I've only ever heard one Hawkwind song.  Not my type of music at all so I wish they'd let the domain go even moreso :)04:52
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seanOneWhat about dniwkwaH.com?04:52
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nabilwhat do you think of porting kubuntu to playstation 304:52
seanOneWorked for me nilbuD.com was a lot easier to get than Dublin.com04:52
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Tallenhiya. Hoping someone has found a fix for the 'apt-get update' Python-apt issue? I am using Edgy, Knot 3.04:53
Morticetallen; u04:53
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MorticeTallen: #ubuntu+1 is the place for you :)04:53
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Tallenah sorry I shall scuttle on then04:54
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HawkwindseanOne: I've thought about that, just not the same unfortunately.  I've used this nick since 1984 so I'd really like to have the actual hawkwind.com domain name.  Though I'd be happy with .net or .org a bit as well04:54
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JucatoTallen: well, there are updates almost everyday. :)04:54
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gemidjydigikam 0.8.2~rc1-0ubuntu3 scans very slowly the collection, and after 10% it crashes04:54
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gemidjyany newer version than this ?04:55
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reagleBRKLNi'm reading email msgs in a mbx file and want to grab the contents and print them as simple ascii, can anyone point me to an example (e.g., "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252")04:56
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seanOnehttp://h.awkwind.com would be available, damn adept has blown itself to bits04:58
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DeadS0ulkopete isn't connecting to msn again =(05:00
tom__does anyone know of a good way to set up automatic backups for the users on my linux box05:01
JucatoDeadS0ul: connected here... probably a problem from the MS side05:01
DeadS0ulmeh05:01
DeadS0ulit's been doing that a lot lately05:01
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JucatoI've heard that GAIM on Windows has been suffering similarly05:02
tom__gaim on windows sucks05:02
DeadS0ulmeh it might be my god damn version 5 linksys router that I had to buy05:02
seanOneTom_ use keep05:02
JucatoDeadS0ul: nah, I've also had problems the past days05:02
DeadS0ul=\05:03
tom__sean i ment for automatic cron on all my users05:03
tom__i host muds for people05:03
tom__keep wont work i just tried it05:03
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Skrot!codecs05:04
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foodcomanGreetings.05:33
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Dr_WillisMoo!05:35
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karim_hey05:35
Dr_Willis"I come from the planet Larson, on the Far Side of the Galaxy"05:35
Dr_Willis:)05:35
karim_i waNNA play my mp3s05:35
karim_what player should i use??05:35
banymi too05:35
Dr_WillisSo play them! :P05:35
jackleamarok05:35
Dr_Willisi use xmms mainly05:35
Dr_Willis!mp305:35
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:35
karim_it won't play'em05:36
karim_it keeps whisteling05:36
jackleamarok will eaven install mp3 support for u in kubuntu05:36
banymbut amarok dont play mp3 for me anymore05:36
Dr_Willisinstall the mp3 thangs. :P05:36
karim_dr willis r u talkin 4 real or just kiddin??05:36
Dr_WillisTheres several support packages to get mp3 support in different players05:37
Dr_Willisblame it on the lawyers I guess.05:37
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Dr_WillisI was thinking xmms had it allready built in.  or perhaps its just one of the first things i normally install.05:37
jackleThe thing I like the most is song previews in konqueror when I hover my mouse over them05:37
jackleDr_Willis: its one of those things we all install be default05:38
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Dr_Willisjust updated to     edgy... xmms aint even starting now. :P05:39
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=== Dr_Willis Jams to Weird Al. "Dont Download this Song" --> DontDownloadThis....mp3
Dr_WillisI think his new ALbum is due out like.. in the next day or 205:41
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karim_isn't there any babes out there in dis chat room or its all linux nerds????05:43
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banymwhy now amarok says void-engine isnt able to play mp305:44
Dr_Williskarim_,  they all hang in #debian05:44
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DeadS0ulyeah debian has the hottest chicks05:44
Jucatoheh05:44
karim_how can i get there?05:44
DeadS0ulbanym change amarok's backend to xine05:44
karim_should i switch from kubunto 2 debian????05:45
karim_lol05:45
Pensacolakpdf won't print my pdf files :s05:45
banymDeadS0ul: i did now hes jumping through the playlist but dont play05:46
DeadS0ul...try arts?05:46
Morticebanym: what are you trying to play? amarok does that when it can't read the files properly.05:46
banymi dont like arts and it did work a few day ago05:46
banymonly thing i did on my notebook was updating an it looks like something goes wrong05:47
jackle  use gstreamer/xine/real ?05:47
DeadS0ulyeah =\05:47
Morticebanym: what did you update, and what are you trying to play?05:48
Jucatogrr.. why doesn't KNotes raise Kontact if Kontact is already running, like what KMail and Akregator and KOrganizer do! bleh05:48
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Dr_Willis!info gdesklets05:48
ubotugdesklets: Architecture for desktop applets. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.35.3-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 465 kB, installed size 2448 kB05:48
Pensacolasuperkaramba is better in my opinion :)05:49
Pensacola!info superkaramba05:49
ubotusuperkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 504 kB, installed size 1376 kB05:49
Pensacolahow can I get KPDF to print my files?05:49
MorticePensacola: is printing working using other programs?05:50
Pensacolait works in office yes05:50
MorticePensacola: openoffice?05:50
Pensacolajep05:50
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Morticewell, in kpdf's print window, you should be able to change the printer you're printing to05:51
soulriderhi everyone!05:51
Pensacolayeah, it's set to the same printer as openoffice05:51
Morticeand what happens when you try to print?05:52
jacklewhat is the defult runlevel for kubuntu?05:52
Pensacolait sends it to the printer, and than kjobviewer shows an error at the print job05:52
Jucatorunlevel 2 afaik05:52
Dr_Willisjackle, 2 i think05:52
banymmhm my xine is no longer able do play mp3 what the hell goes on05:52
jackletx05:52
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reagleBRKLNcontent = part.get_payload().encode(charset) --> UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0x93 in position 346: ordinal not in range(128)05:53
reagleBRKLNisn't encode supposed to return a "plain" string according to the charset?05:53
Jucatoooh I guessed correctly05:53
MorticePensacola: what error? does the printer itself have a display for errors?05:53
skreetAnyone know what the expected release date of KDE 4.0 is?05:54
reagleBRKLNe.g., windows-125205:54
Pensacolanope, it doesn't do anything05:54
reagleBRKLNcrud, wrong window05:54
MorticePensacola: ok, so what does the error say in kjobviewer?05:54
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Pensacolanothing, just error05:55
Morticehmm05:55
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Morticeand this is the same for all kde programs?05:55
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Pensacolawith kpdf and the other pdf viewer in kde yes05:56
slow-motionhallo05:56
Pensacolahaven't tried others yet05:56
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Morticetry others, see if it's a kde problem or a problem with kde pdf viewers05:56
Morticei need to go, i'm afraid.05:56
psb154Pensacola, mortice, perhaps its a printer driver v pdf problem.05:56
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Pensacola:s05:57
psb154Pens, what printer is it and is it networked or directly connected?05:58
psb154or is it mortice...05:58
Pensacolahp psc 1417 usb05:58
Pensacoladirectjy connected05:59
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psb154Pens, when you open system settings > Printers do you see 1417 listed on the first page06:01
Pensacolayes06:01
psb154if you right click it click configure at the top, what does the first item say?06:02
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psb154Pens?06:03
Pensacolaworking on it :)06:03
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soulriderhey, does anyone know a CLI web browser?06:05
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Dannilionw3m06:05
|lostbyte|soulrider, lynx06:05
soulriderthanks =)06:05
UQlevsoulrider: links also06:05
banymlol amarok is able to play mpc but not mp306:06
Pensacolahttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/Pensacola/printer.jpg06:06
soulriderbanym: you gotta install support for mp306:06
banymsoulrider: how ?06:06
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banymsoulrider: i already heard mp3 but now since today mp3 doesnt work anymore, i think some update did kill me my mp3 support or do you have an other idea06:07
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psb154Pens... take a look at http://linuxprinting.org06:08
psb154they have a driver for the PP PSC 140006:08
psb154pp = hp06:09
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psb154I use there drivers for my old printers and they always work well including printing PDF :-) just a suggestion though.06:09
psb154there = their06:09
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psb154Pens: http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-PSC_140006:11
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psb154Pens if you were to use this driver you would download the PPD.06:12
simphello i have a problem with the mp3 support.. just did all the stuff from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats for kubuntu but nothing worked06:12
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simpamarok still keeps skipping files06:12
psb154Pens set up another printer as you did before but select the PPD file as the printer driver when prompted.06:13
banymsimp: i have the same problem06:13
abattoir!repos06:13
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:13
banymsimp: mpc files are still able to play but mp3 support doesnt work06:13
warpzonebanym: sorry, I just poked my head in, but did you enable restricted formats?06:14
simpyes i did06:14
Pensacolaok working on it06:14
simpsome guy from hungary helped me last time06:14
banymwarpzone: where do i have to enable it ?06:15
simphe's english was poor but he knew how to get it working06:15
warpzonebanym: here lemme show you the link, very handy, one sec06:15
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banymwarpzone: o.k no problem, but it did work a few day ago just one update, i think, killes my mp3 support06:16
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warpzonebanym: oh okie, hmmm06:16
tolkanhey all, looking how to update my python packages in ubuntu.  Trying to add the package python-gtk2, but my application i need to use is not seeing the GTK2 bidnings, any help?06:16
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warpzonebanym: may have to reinstall the xine codecs06:16
Jucato!sound > Jucato06:17
banymwarpzone: i did this just a few minutes ago but the same sh...06:17
abattoir!autorun06:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about autorun - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:18
warpzonebanym: hmm... have you tried a purge and reinstall of amarok? it might work if nothing else does06:18
tolkan!python06:18
ubotupython: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 125 kB, installed size 532 kB06:18
PensacolaI have no idea how to add the printer with the ppd file :s06:18
tolkangrrr... thats not too helpful :(06:18
banymwarpzone: i reinstalled amarok too no change06:18
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psb154Pens, from system settings add a printer.06:19
Pensacolabrb06:19
Makro___why amarok..use xmms06:19
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warpzoneMakro___: whaaaaaaat?06:19
warpzoneMakro___: have you used amarok before?06:19
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HawkwindSome people like amarok and enjoy having a choice06:19
banymwas there an update of xinelibs ?06:20
Makro___warpzone: of course..and i uninstall it, because it didn t work06:20
RogueXHello everyone06:20
DannilionMakro___: xmms is ugly- even when skinned :P06:20
Admiral_ChicagoHawkwind, amarok organizes your collection better imo06:20
warpzonebanym: I'm going to poke around the forums for a sec, see if I find anything about an update messing with amarok06:20
Makro___now i use xmms and everything is fine06:20
RogueXCan someone help me with an Adept problem?06:20
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tolkandoes anyone know what would cause this problem with python-gtk2?? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2410906:21
HawkwindAdmiral_Chicago: I wasn't downing either.  Makro___ said to use xmms and I was making a point that users like to have a choice of what they want to use06:21
Makro___dannillon: is not ugly, and, i want something that works,06:21
tolkanRogueX: whats the problem?06:21
JucatoRogueX: what is it?06:21
HawkwindAdmiral_Chicago: I know what amarok does and is capable of :)06:21
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RogueXAdept will only start in read mode.  It says something else is using it.  But I dont have anything else running.06:22
warpzoneIf i was going to use xmms I would at least use bmp06:22
Makro___what is problem with xmms is like winamp, and amarok remember me windows media player06:22
HawkwindWhy ? bmp isn't maintained anymore06:22
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JucatoRogueX: try entering "sudo dpkg --configure -a" in Konsole06:22
furlongmhi06:22
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tolkanJucato: do you know anything about python implementation in ubuntu?06:23
furlongmanyone know if there is a command line tool for setting up X in kubuntu?06:23
Admiral_ChicagoMakro___, xmms is supposed to be very much like winamp06:23
Jucatotolkan: no. sorry.06:23
Admiral_Chicago!info xmms06:23
ubotuxmms: Versatile X audio player. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.10+cvs20050809-4ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1029 kB, installed size 7256 kB06:23
HawkwindMakro___: That's what is so good about linux, it's all about the user having many choices06:23
warpzoneHawkwind: o didn't know that :-P06:23
Admiral_Chicagooh it doesn't have a descripiten06:23
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Jucato!xmms06:23
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs06:23
Hawkwindwarpzone: Hence audacity now06:23
Makro___Hawkind: yep06:23
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RogueXJucato: Got and error "flashplugin-nonfree"06:25
JucatoRogueX: you recently performed an update?06:25
HawkwindRogueX: They are working on the fix.  Should be updated soon06:26
RogueXJucato: yes and that was one of them06:26
RogueXHawkwind: Thanks...06:26
Jucatothe flashplugin-nonfree update is broken, you can use this command to downgrade to the last working version: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree/dapper06:26
warpzonebanym: good and bad news06:26
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warpzonebanym: good news, you aren't the only person with this problem06:27
warpzonebanym: bad news, I can't find a solution yet :-P06:27
RogueXJucato: Got the error  "Unable to lock the adiminstration directory"06:27
banymwarpzone: o.k then i think its the problem of the xine engine06:27
RogueXJucato: Never mind.. lol for got to go to root06:28
banymbecause xine-ui isnt able to play mp3 too06:28
warpzonebanym: yeah it happened with the update to the restricted formats06:28
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warpzonebanym: have you tried removing and reinstalling the xine stuff?06:28
banymyes06:28
RogueXJucato: Thanks that got it06:29
Jucatonp06:29
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banymsame problem so i think i have to wait an hear slayer - god hates us all06:29
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warpzonebanym: okay found something that might help06:31
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furlongmhi again, trying to set up machines for akademy here, setting up kubuntu06:31
furlongmX isn't working on any machine06:31
warpzonebanym: you've got to downgrade back to the previous version06:31
furlongmeven with vesa driver in xorg.conf06:31
furlongmnot familiar with kubuntu, so would anyone know if there's a command line tool for debian/kubuntu for setting up a working xorg.conf?06:32
warpzonefurlongm: there is, I need to look it up though, one sec06:32
furlongmlike sax in suse06:32
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Admiral_Chicagofurlongm, did you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?06:32
warpzoneooo hey thats it :-P06:33
banymwarpzone: and how can i load the old version06:33
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furlongmAdmiral_Chicago: thank you! :)06:33
furlongmwill try that06:33
furlongmback in a bit06:33
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warpzonebanym: now -thats- a good question. anybody here more knowledgable know how to install and earlier version of xine?06:33
Admiral_Chicagofurlongm, just follow the regular options, X does a good job of auto recognizing06:33
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snpzhi everybody06:34
gemidjyI need 0.8.2 or 0.9beta2 Digikam for Kubuntu, package ?06:34
snpzi have question about Kubuntu on laptops06:34
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snpzi have HP NX631006:34
snpzinstalled everything06:35
snpzbut everything is so HUGE06:35
snpzresolution is 1024x76806:35
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snpzit's the best this model can manage06:35
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snpzbut under xp everything was smaller06:36
warpzonebanym: trying to look it up, one more sec06:36
uwohi all - sth is blocking my audio (xine was unable to initialise audio drivers) - how do i find out what and kill it?06:36
snpzthere could be any problems with graphics drivers?06:36
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banymwarpzone: o.k thx for help i will search a package now06:37
warpzonebanym: ah! open adept06:37
warpzonebanym: when you install xine, there should be an option to force a particular version06:37
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Admiral_Chicagogemidjy, should be digikam06:38
Admiral_Chicagosnpz, system settings06:38
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warpzonebanym: sorry man I can't find anything, I'm going to look at how to force old versions, I think on e of my GTK libs on screwed and its giving me problems06:42
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warpzonebanym: I'll let you know if I find anything06:42
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furlongmAdmiral_Chicago: tells me xorg-xserver is not installed06:42
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furlongmthe auto-detect detects the intel card, and out of 48 machines kdm shows up on about 1006:43
furlongmon the other ones, kdm and X are running but the screen is blank06:43
warpzonefurlongm: the admiral left. I wish I could help but its out of my league, never worked with that before06:44
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banymwarpzone: o.k thx06:47
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D4rklyhi i have a amd x2, which kernel should i be using with kubuntu(i386) 2.6.15-27-386, 686 or k7 ?06:55
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D4rklyshould i use the 686 or k7 kernel with my amd dual core ?06:59
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drayen__ hey all, i've got a kubuntu install and im trying to forward connections on 8080 to localport 80 - i've tried "sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d 192.168.1.101 --dport 8080 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 80" but i the connection still gets rejected.. am i missing anything?07:01
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JFreakCapohello, how change my default mail program evolution for thunderbird in gnome?07:11
joschaask in #ubuntu07:11
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JFreakCapojoscha: thks07:12
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LeeJunFandrayen__: have you also got port 80 traffic allowed?07:12
JGTCif yo do not have it ,you cannot connect to anywhere!07:12
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drayen__LeeJunFan: yes - the localwebsever works as expected07:13
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echo1Question: Is it possible  (and if so, how difficlut) to have two sets of vid drivers.  I have a laptop so the fglrx drivers break my standby/hibernate.  But at the same time I would like to play games (only when I'm plugged in etc).   Can  I enable/disable the two drivers at my will?07:13
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tolkanis anyone knowledgeble on the topic of python-central package?07:14
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tolkan!info python-central07:14
echo1and what would be the ebst way to pull this off07:14
ubotuPackage python-central does not exist in any distro I know07:14
LeeJunFandrayen__: might check for other rules that might be interfering, I've done that kind of thing many times and your rule above looks fine.07:14
TunaTomecho1: I have two devie-sections in my xorg.conf and whenever an update breaks my binary nvidia, i can simply drop back to nv by changing one line07:15
tolkanecho1: Yes you can you'll have to configure your xorg.conf file and change around the driver each time07:15
LeeJunFanecho1: the newest drivers allow suspend to ram, haven't tried hibernate, but I suspect that works too.07:15
tolkanecho1:  i'm sure you can pull off a script to do it for you.  and attach that to the event that you plug in.  but either way you will have to restart X to change drivers07:15
drayen__LeeJunFan: yeah i've dont it too on routers... but i dont get why its not working when done locally on kubunbtu07:15
echo1LeeJunFan: i tried, didn't workout well07:15
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echo1tolkan: ok, so the fglrx driver install does *not* uninstall the open radeon driver.  So just to confirm: I need to setup two drivers in xorg.conf and simply comment one out and comment the other in and ctrl + alt + backspace?07:16
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JGTCPeople, how do i access to an FTP server in Firefox, if it does not recognize the directories? Example: the dir is JGTC Space and it access like JGTC%20Space, but i can not access it!07:17
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Ash-FoxDoes anyone know of any utilities that convert publisher files to some other format like pdf or something (Since I cannot view publisher files)?07:17
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tolkanecho1: to do it manually yes.  There is a way to use a stream editor through a script to switch it out really quickly if you want to automate it07:18
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tolkanecho1: but try it manually and see how it works for now07:18
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echo1ok thanks.  When I get home I'll have to play around and give it a shot07:19
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jpiccolowhen installing something though adept, how do i click ok in the details window07:22
LeeJunFandrayen__: I just tried that rule on my local machine here and connected to it fine on 8080.07:22
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drayen__LeeJunFan: humm strange....07:24
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eeosdoes anyone know about a paratric 2D CAD under kubunut?07:25
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eeossorry, does anyone know about a parametric 2D CAD that works under kubuntu?07:27
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jpiccolowhen installing something though adept, how do i click ok in the details window07:29
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sorush20can I connect my printer using ethernet connection?07:33
sorush20printer to computer?07:33
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mneisenonly if you have a printer that supports it, f.e. an hp xxxx DTN07:34
D4rklyi reinstalled wine and it wont work error while loading shared libraries: libntdll.so ?07:34
jpiccolowhen installing something though adept, how do i click ok in the details window?07:34
HomerInstall I think07:34
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sorush20mneisen: I have a hp laserjet 5Si Nx. whta is the f.e. and hp xxxx DTN07:35
sorush20?07:35
HomerRequest Install07:35
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jpiccoloHomer, what?07:36
daniele_982i'm italian but there'isnt a channel ita for kubuntu07:36
[GuS] mmm there is a problem in Edgy with tha package  /var/cache/apt/archives/python-apt_0.6.19ubuntu5_i386.deb (with today upgrade)07:36
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daniele_982i search to install xgl for my ati X300 SE but i don't know a valid guide07:37
[GuS] daniele_982, you tried in compiz.net?07:37
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daniele_982[GuS] : no07:37
daniele_982[GuS] : the link?07:37
[GuS] compiz.net ...07:37
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Skrot!codecs07:38
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:38
[GuS] search there,..,,07:38
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h3sp4wn!it07:38
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!07:38
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daniele_982h3sp4wn: kubuntu-it is ubuntu-it07:39
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daniele_982h3sp4wn: is 1 channel07:39
h3sp4wnAnd they all use gnome ?07:39
[GuS] lol07:40
manuel_sure ...07:40
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daniele_982h3sp4wn: yes in fact i'm here because it don't know07:40
[GuS] daniele_982, you will not lost nothing if you ask...07:40
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Homerhow do I check my IP addy07:41
[GuS] just try to search in the compiz forum i gave you... there are many HOWTOs07:41
jpiccolocan anyone help me click ok (pic)-> http://jpiccolo.isa-geek.com:8080/~jpiccolo/snapshot1.png07:41
jpiccolohomer, ifconfig07:41
Homerk07:41
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[GuS] jpiccolo, what kind of help do you need there?07:42
D4rklyhow can i use dpkg to reconfigure wine07:42
jpiccologus, i need to beable to "ok" it07:42
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[GuS] to hit the ok?07:42
jpiccolodont work07:43
[GuS] use tab.. or try to install it under console...07:43
jpiccoloif i quit adept, will it break it07:44
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jpiccolostuck in the middle of installing java07:44
[GuS] you will be available to fix it under console07:44
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D4rklyi used dpkg --configure wine but wine is already installed and conf'd how can i force this command ?07:44
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h3sp4wn -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confmiss -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confnew (those options to apt-get)07:45
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GnarusLeoAnyone who got any ideas on how to syncronize my k610i with kde organizer or schedule or something?07:46
WargooI'm trying to install kbuntu on my laptop.  I had ubuntu on it and installed it fine, but when I try this I wipe it clean and it gets stuck at "Scanning the mirror" 1% and nothing.07:46
jpiccoloE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)07:46
jpiccoloE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?07:46
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[GuS] jpiccolo, ?07:47
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Tal!bootdisk07:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bootdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:47
Talanyone point me to a Kubuntu bootdisk.07:48
Talif an Ubuntu one is the same, thats good to07:48
jpiccologus, thats what i got when i tired to run from terminal07:49
pawelhello07:49
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[GuS] jpiccolo, did you use sudo? did you kill adept app?07:49
Thorrn4hello I was trying to install Cedega today and I got an error - http://paste.uni.cc/10242 (I pasted there) it says it needs xlibs but when I try to apt-get that, it didnt find it, stating that xlibs has been changed to "libxft1" and "xkeyboard-config", but when thats installed, Cedega still wont run07:49
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pawelTHorn find this .deb07:50
Kiongku!rm07:50
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands07:50
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Kiongku!rmvb07:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rmvb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:50
Kiongku!media07:50
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs07:50
Kiongku!codecs07:50
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:50
Talanyone know a of a kubuntu boot disk07:50
Thorrn4pawel, I have the .deb, its from dpkg07:51
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pawelso nu can install xlibs?07:51
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michaelvsTal, for some reason I thought they were one in the same.  My disk labeled Ubuntu Boot Disk displays Kubuntu during bootup.  I got mine with an issue of LinuxFormat.07:52
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beregosanyone here know hos to use xmodmap?07:53
beregoshow*07:53
heinkel_112Tal: the kubujntu livecd?07:53
heinkel_112Tal: the kubuntu livecd?07:53
heinkel_112(sry for typo)07:53
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red_where do i get ati drivers07:54
heinkel_112Tal: you can download it from a number of alternative locations --> http://www.kubuntu.org07:54
beregos!fglrx07:54
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:54
Talno07:54
Thorrn4pawel, I can only download the -dev files but not the main file07:54
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beregosanyone here know how to use xmodmap?07:54
Tal(fone 1 mo)07:55
heinkel_112Tal ??? I don't understand your question or you can't download?07:55
pawelthorn i got this file if u want i mail it to u07:55
Thorrn4can u please pawel ?07:56
Talsorry was on the fone.07:57
Talheinkel_11, the problem i have is as follows07:57
Talold laptop.07:57
Talusb cdrom.07:57
Talwont boot from it.07:57
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Talnow its an OLD usb cd rom.07:57
Thorrn4pawel, I send u a priv. message07:57
Taland ive tried putting windows on it, via boot disks etc.07:57
Talbut it keeps failing.07:57
Tali was wondering if there was a floppy boot disk for Kubunutu.07:58
heinkel_112Tal..ok...I see, but then I think it is quite difficlt for me to help you, no experience with usb disks07:58
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heinkel_112you could try damn small linux07:58
heinkel_112and then use that to download and install kubuntu in the next step?07:59
heinkel_112although i can't tell you how...07:59
Taldamn small linux is still 50mb though07:59
Taltheres no floppy version.07:59
Talunless i missed it.07:59
heinkel_112hmm..i thought that was the floppy distro...but then it was something else :(08:00
h3sp4wnPut the drive into another machine with a 3.5 to 2.5 convertor08:00
[GuS] someones uses Edgy here?08:00
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Talhuh?08:00
heinkel_112there is something that fits on alfoppy somewhere....08:00
Talthat would be nice.08:00
heinkel_112a floppy08:00
Tala small gui distro thats on a floppy08:01
Talthough.08:01
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Wargooi never used this, but try it maybe http://www.toms.net/rb/08:01
Tali had windows on this once (a techy did it)08:01
Talon the laptop.08:01
Taland i could not boot from it then either08:01
Tal:(08:01
Talso im not sure it will work08:01
Talwhen i say wont boot i mean.08:01
Talif i put a small linux distro, it might be impossible to upgrade to kubuntu.08:02
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Talbut its worth a shot08:02
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pawelthorn i sent u this file08:03
pawelcheck it out08:03
fuciHi, I installed Kubuntu from the base gnome with "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop". Everything is fine except I can't change my resolution from 1600x1200 to 1152x864, it does show up in the system settings -> monitor. What should I do?08:03
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pawelfuci ___ edit xorg.file08:05
seanOneMake sure you have the right monitor driver08:05
fuciI do have the Nvidia driver installed,08:05
fucipawel: What should I put there?08:06
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Makro___mmmh08:06
Goliath23hi08:06
paweldont put just edit this file - find section monitor and change resolution08:06
seanOneGo to system settings and whack the display icon08:07
Makro___still getting disconnected in some lapsus of time, dunno why, in windows is fine08:07
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seanOneGo to the hardware tab08:07
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pawel / etc / X11 / xorg . conf08:07
paweledit this file with root priviliges by gedit08:08
ge2xhey can any1 tell me how to burn audio cds from mp3 with k3b08:08
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MenZa/etc/X11/xorg.conf *08:08
Goliath23I have a serious problem here: I have installed the latest k7 kernel image, using the linux-image-k7 meta package. but there doesn't seem to be a matching resticted-modules package for that kernel and I guess thats the root of real problem (nvidia kernel module isnt loaded) only If I manually specify the path to the .ko file and using insmod08:08
MenZa:)08:08
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Goliath23any suggestions on that?08:08
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fucipawel: hmm, there are some 1152x864 configurations there, for 54hz and 75hz. Strange. I can see the 1152x864 85hz in system settings -> display, but it doesn't change to it even if I'm on adminstrative mode.08:08
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pawelge2 -- find plugin to k3b - it is in synaptic08:09
seanOneFuci does it identify your monitor correctly?08:09
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ge2xpawel, hows the plugin called?08:09
fuciseanOne: In xorg.conf, yes.08:09
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pawelge2 just type mp3, k3b in synaptic and HERE IS08:10
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pawelfuci in witch section?>08:10
fuciSection "Monitor"08:10
pawelwait i check my08:11
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XVampireXWindows is not ready for the desktop!08:11
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ge2xpawelbut when i mark it says it needs to remove a whole lot of other libs08:11
not_benh_howdy all08:12
ge2xdoes it has to do that08:12
pawelbut what libs?08:12
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TunaTomho not_benh_08:12
TunaToms/ho/hi/08:13
not_benh_how would I track the 'unstable' packages? I am used to debians stable/unstable/testing track but I didnt see any thing on the site about tracking unstable/testing?08:13
ge2xstartind adept, akregator and ending with wlassistant08:13
pawelfuci --- section "screen" there are some resolutions make sure u got what u want08:13
TunaTomnot_benh: there's no need to do that, actually.08:13
h3sp4wnnot_benh_: You cannot - either use edgy or dapper - you cannot use bits of both08:13
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TunaTomnot_benh: most packages are very quickly backported from the development versions.08:13
h3sp4wnnot_benh_: Or use deb-src edgy lines and backport yourself08:14
pawelge2 -- what is this plugin name08:14
ge2xplz w8 a minute08:15
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TunaTomh3sp4wn: how would I go about that? Build/Install the edgy-sources and create debs from that?08:15
TunaTomWhile using dapper...08:16
not_benh_cool thanks guys08:16
TunaTomnot_benh_: cheers08:16
h3sp4wnTunaTom: apt-get source (from both edgy and dapper) debuild -uc -us08:16
TunaTomh3sp4wn: It's worth a try.08:17
TunaTomBut more interesting for others, when I go fix bugs and stuff, isn't it?08:17
pawelge2+++++    libk3b2-mp3+++++++++08:17
ge2xyes thats waht its called08:17
fuciAahfrhd, crappit. I just use Gnome, it works better for me :(08:18
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h3sp4wnTunaTom: I just take what I want from wherever (sid / edgy)08:18
TunaTomh3sp4wn: I'm constantly thinking about how to contribute, perhaps that's something.08:18
ge2xso what should i do should i install it?08:18
TunaTomJust build stuff and create a backport package..08:18
pawelgnome or kde?08:18
pawelge2 what u got08:19
ge2xkde08:19
pawelso use adept to install this08:19
h3sp4wnTunaTom: Problem with doing that is sometimes versions are specified explicitly in some of the meta packages08:19
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ge2xohh08:19
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paweltry to upgrade k3b there is newer version08:20
h3sp4wnTunaTom: So someone may install one of your backports and then {k}ubuntu-desktop may be uninstallable08:20
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paweldont forget to apt-get update08:20
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TunaTomh3sp4wn: Hmm, so one would have to create something _outside_ the meta or backport the meta-package as well?08:20
MrBallZQuestion: any one has problems updating the flashplugin ... dpgk gives me an error ... but k3b update went by well....08:20
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h3sp4wnTunaTom: You just need to make sure it doesn't break anything08:21
abattoirMrBallZ: yes, from what i've heard there is an issue, and its being worked upon08:21
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MrBallZabattoir: thanks ... then I'll just wait ...08:21
abattoirMrBallZ: you might see a fixed version in backports/updates soon, so just be a bit patient :)08:21
TunaTomh3sp4wn: pitty, so I'll just keep building for my own needs. Not enough time :(08:22
h3sp4wnTunaTom: I would rather not do anything unless I can be 100% certain that it will not break other things08:22
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TunaTomh3sp4wn: I'm an experienced Linux user since about 8 years and just think about how I could contribute back a bit.08:23
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TunaTomh3sp4wn: not having much time, though. So I thought I'd just publish the compiles I have anyway.08:24
TunaTomh3sp4wn: and call that backport :)08:24
TunaTomPerhaps some newbies to help?08:25
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h3sp4wnTunaTom: What do you know about cross-compiling ?08:25
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TunaTomh3sp4wn: Since I had LFS and Gentoo running: a bit.08:26
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h3sp4wnTunaTom: I need to cross compile perl for mipsel08:27
TunaTomh3sp4wn: both give quite some information on that topic.08:27
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TunaTomh3sp4wn: well, how can I help?08:27
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h3sp4wnTunaTom: I don't understand the perl build system at all08:28
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TunaTomh3sp4wn: no one understands that!08:28
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mulahi.. .how can i install kubuntu?08:29
mulai am newbie :(08:29
cpk2you download the iso and burn it to a cd08:29
TunaTommula: I'd like to help you.08:29
mulacan't I use synaptic?08:29
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TunaTommula: do you have an ubuntu installation?08:30
mulaTunaTom,  thanks :)08:30
mulayes... I've just installed Ubuntu 5.1008:30
Thorrn4pawel, ty so much, it installed!08:30
mulai'm in it right now08:30
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TunaTommula: Then it's easy. Just select kubuntu-desktop (or so) in synaptic.08:31
cpk2mula: you can use apt-get08:31
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TunaTommula: The other packages will be pulled in.08:31
cpk2mula: then at log in you just select kde instead of gnome08:31
mulaTunaTom,  thanks, I was in doubt if should I select only kubuntu-desktop or other things togheter...08:31
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mulaTunaTom,  thanks!! :)08:31
h3sp4wnmula: 5.10 is an old version 6.06 is the latest08:31
cpk2well, you might want other kde apps later08:31
MasterEvilAcehow do i check what programs are installed by apt, using konsole?08:31
mulacpk2,  thank you too! :)08:32
TunaTommula: the dependencies will be resol ved automatically08:32
mulah3sp4wn,  didn't know.. :( does it update automaticly?08:32
mulaTunaTom,  sounds nice, I will try it now! :) thank you! :)08:32
cpk2mula: no, you would need to change your sources list to update i think08:32
mulacpk2, that might take some time :( but i'll try it after installing kubuntu! :)08:33
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h3sp4wnmula: sudo perl -pi.bak -e 's/breezy/dapper/i' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade (presuming you are on broadband)08:33
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mulathanks for the help people! I'lll be back later :)08:33
TunaTommula: and you should do the upgrade _before_ you install kubuntu, I think.08:33
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mulaso I'll update it right now!08:34
seanOneapt --help08:34
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mulah3sp4wn,  yes, I'm in broadband... :) small one.. 256kbps :(08:34
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TunaTommula: I'd think so.08:34
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TunaTommula: Just replace all the "breezy"-entries in your sources.list with "dapper". (like h3sp4wn said above)08:35
pawelthorn - u welcome08:36
h3sp4wnmula: May take a while but it should work fine08:36
mulaTunaTom, dapper? where?08:36
TunaTommula: do it like h3sp4wn said above.08:36
mulaokkk :) thanks08:37
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TunaTommula: I repeat it: sudo perl -pi.bak -e 's/breezy/dapper/i' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade (presuming you are on broadband)08:37
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dariussveiki gyvi gal kas pagelbeti galetu?08:37
TunaTomh3sp4wn: That's a nifty way to adjust the sources and have a backup!08:37
mulaTunaTom,  yep... i'm in the 2nd step (sudo aptitude update) now :) thanks :D08:37
TunaTomh3sp4wn: is -pi.bak a normal perl command-line switch?08:38
lars__cant get audio, find the sound card but cant get it to work, kmix says : mixer not found08:38
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dariushy08:39
mula562mb of download :S ouch08:39
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TunaTommula: the price for being up to date ;)08:39
DethKlokHow are the man pages stored?08:39
mulai'll do it tonight... it's better, because I'll have to use windows in some few hours08:40
TunaTomDethKlok: groff?08:40
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TunaTommula: okay, good luck for that.08:40
dariushy08:40
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mulaTunaTom,  lol! but the price for a high speed connection here in Brazil is too high :(08:40
TunaTommula: and perhaps check if you'd better first upgrade before you dist-upgrade. I'm not sure about that one.08:40
XVampireXAnyone wanna go to ##windows and yell "WINDOWS IS NOT READY FOR THE DESKTOP!"08:41
mulaTunaTom,  hmm08:41
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TunaTommula: Well, then It would perhaps be easier to have a shipit CD?08:41
mulaTunaTom,  I made just h3sp4wn  and it's working, already downloading08:41
fdovingXVampireX: no, that's childish. we don't do that, not here, not in ##windows.08:41
mulaTunaTom,  no no... it would take too long :(08:41
cpk2mula: you can get a free kubuntu cd, although you might want to wait for edgy to come out for your free cd08:42
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TunaTommula: If it's too expensive, you can abort it at any time.08:42
lars__sound problem... finds the sound card but kmix complains about not finding any mixer08:42
mulaTunaTom,  can I just stop the downloading in terminal?08:42
cpk2mula: ctrl c08:42
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TunaTommula: Yes: <Crtl>-C08:42
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mulaTunaTom,  it expensive to have a fast connection here, that's why i pay for only 256kbps :P08:42
mulacpk2,  what is edgy? :(08:43
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TunaTommula: Means: Keep the control key pressed and press the c.08:43
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mulaTunaTom, cpk2 oook thanks! :) stopped08:43
TunaTommula: the next version of ubuntu. Due on 19.10.08:43
cpk2mula: edgy is the newest version that should be released in october08:43
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mulahmm... nice :)08:43
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eduHi08:43
TunaTomcpk2: hey, that08:43
TunaTomis my newby.08:44
TunaTomback08:44
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mulabut until there i'll be, at least, trying to use this one (not 5.10, but 6.09, right?)08:44
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TunaTommula: depends.08:44
eduWill  the next kubuntu release have an xgl helper, like mandriva 2007?08:44
lars__think this one got it08:44
lars__xubutu08:45
cpk2breezy = 5.10 ;dapper = 6.06; edgy = i forget the number08:45
TunaTommula: unless you keep the upgrade running, you're technically still using 5.10.08:45
lars__and packages and guides08:45
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fdovingcpk2: 6.1008:45
mulaTunaTom,  yep.. i'll upgrade it tonight.... it's 15:48 here... :)08:45
fdovingcpk2: it's year.month08:46
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lars__edu xubuntu is a fork with xgl if i am not wrong ( newbie / interm. )08:46
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TunaTommula: Afterwards you'll be using 6.04. It's 20:42 here.08:46
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lars__me that is08:46
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TunaTomlars__: xubuntu is using the xfce desktop.08:46
mulaTunaTom,  lol.. anyway.. no problem! :) I'll try to upgrade it this night! :D08:47
mula*tonight08:47
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lars__ok sry08:47
fdovinglars__: xubuntu has nothing to do with xgl.. it's just using the xfce desktop. xubuntu.org08:47
fdoving.. as tunatom said. (i'm to slow).08:47
TunaTomlars__: edubuntu is for educational purposes, esp. school (desktop and server)08:47
lars__one of all those funny lib.08:47
mulacpk2,  h3sp4wn , TunaTom, thanks for the help! gtg now!! :)08:47
TunaTommula: cu.08:48
mulalater :)08:48
lars__why did you mention edubuntu?08:48
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lars__got sound problem...08:48
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TunaTomlars_: you said: "edu xubuntu is a fork with xgl if i am not wrong ( newbie / interm. )"08:48
TunaTomlars__: I'm not good with sound. Works here, but that's about it :)08:49
lars__hit name was edu08:49
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TunaTomlars__: oops, sorry.08:50
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TunaTomBe it as it might. At least I helped one newbie. gtg now.08:51
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TunaTomcu08:51
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lars__had it working on this comp. a year back now it is gone and crazy08:51
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omarhello I would like to configure my evolution, I got gmail, and i follow the steps in the guide, what can I do08:55
eduyup, xubuntu uses xfce...08:56
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dcorderohi08:56
dcorderoi have a problem un kubuntu08:56
eduI meant an app that would help to set up the 3d card drivers and the xgl system... that would be very useful!08:56
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root_____i need ati drivers08:57
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unksi!ati08:57
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:57
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dcorderoi have 2 partitions on my hd... One primary partition mounted as / where ubuntu are installed, and another partition for save personal data that i want to mount on /media/baulext3... The filesystem of both partition are ext3... The problem is that i can't to write into de data partition from a normal user account08:58
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red_i need ati drivers09:04
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red_where do i get ati drivers09:06
eduwww.ati.com09:06
edugo to downloads, drivers, and then go to linux...09:06
mattindiaHey dudes, just wanted to say that i'm happy because i installed all the softwares i used on windows on my kubuntu and it works!09:06
edubut you'd better do to open adept and search for "fglrx"09:06
red_ubotu: ati drivers09:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ati drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:06
Tm_T!ati09:06
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:06
MasterEvilAceyou're so silly ubotu09:07
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travisjust a quick question, everytime i try to open deb packages, this comes up "the utility is not in your path please install it or contact system admin"09:12
traviswhat do i do?09:12
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ScottKtravis:Don't open the packages directly, use Adept or your favorite package manager.09:13
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travisoooh ok09:14
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socreshey hello09:17
socreshas anyone ever tried to get working xgl with kubuntu?09:17
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omarGood quest, I wanted some time ago, but it looks so complicated09:19
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mattindiai have a little problem through: my widescreen works fine with the ATI drivers09:21
mattindiabut when i watch a video full screen it lags a lot; do you have ideas why the ATI driver is not ok?09:21
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omarDo you know a good guide to configure evolution????09:22
omarone that works at least09:22
fdovingomar: might get more help in #ubuntu as evolution is the default PIM/mail client in ubuntu.09:23
omarthanx09:23
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Goliath23hi09:26
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Goliath23since a couple of updates my video-icon-preview doesnt work. neither on desktop nor in konqueror, any idea what that could be or how to enable them?09:27
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Goliath23(the strange thing is, that the tooltip that comes up if I rest the mouse on a video file shows the preview!09:28
Sannehi09:28
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cpk2hi09:29
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red_ubotu: ati drivers09:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ati drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:30
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vvatsared_: what would you like too know.09:30
red_ubotu: ati/nvidia drivers09:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ati/nvidia drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:30
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cpk2red_: its !ati09:30
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red_i need to know how to redo my xorg09:30
red_ubotu: !ati/nvidia drivers09:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ati/nvidia drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:31
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cpk2red_: the xorg.conf tells you at the top how to regenerate it if thats what you need09:31
red_i know there is a link on wiki, but i cant remember it09:31
cpk2!ati09:31
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:31
vvatsahttp://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_8.28.8_drivers_in_Ubuntu_Dapper_Manually09:31
red_there it is09:31
edubye09:31
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zorglu_to all regular helpers, do you know if there is a stat on the ubotu commands, the most frequently used one etc... would be good to know what are the most common problems seens on irc09:34
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cpk2i bet it has to do with sources09:36
cpk2people not knowing about the extra repos09:37
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MasterEvilAceyeah09:37
MasterEvilAcerepos is probably it09:37
zorglu_me too :) but such tools would be good09:37
MasterEvilAceubotu isn't very intelligent09:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about isn't very intelligent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:37
MasterEvilAcei did a search and it said you were not intelligent ubotu :P09:38
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zorglu_i tried recently to motivate #kubuntu-devel to produce some solutions, i even suggested possible solutions, but did get much echo09:38
NthDegree@lart MasterEvilAce09:38
zorglu_maybe it would be more convincing with hard number09:38
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NthDegree@pity MasterEvilAce09:38
MasterEvilAcelol09:38
NthDegreeUbugtu you fool09:39
MasterEvilAceubuntu is a friggin' idiot, gosh!09:39
cpk2zorglu_: solutions for what?09:39
zorglu_cpk2: make it easier to install the usual extra repositories09:39
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zorglu_cpk2: a simple .deb would do it, making adding universe something like 'sudo apt-get install config-rep-unniverse'09:40
cpk2hmm like a script to uncomment the common extra repos?09:40
cpk2that too09:40
zorglu_cpk2: yes but wrapped in a .deb to make it easier for users09:40
cpk2although i bet the help page that pops up when you open konq tells you how to add repos09:41
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zorglu_cpk2: well i am trying to reduce the amount of question we got about repository by making it easier to fix it :)09:41
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MasterEvilAceis there no grub splash in Edgy?09:42
i_luv_beeranyone know why you need to reload KDE for menu options to pop up?09:42
cpk2zorglu_: self help does go a long way though =); and there is a managing repos link in the supported html help doc with helpful links09:42
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travishmm, i still can't open deb files when trying to open with adept, i downloaded one called ksmoothdock.deb and tried ark but it woudln't let me09:42
travisany ideas?09:43
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zorglu_cpk2: yep but link to link to link and then user doesnt read it and come here to ask :)09:43
OODtravis: you want to install the deb?09:43
travisyeah09:43
zorglu_travis: try "sudo dpkg -i yourpackanamegoeshere.deb"09:43
travisbut it won't let me09:43
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travisok09:44
Zvezdichkois there an error09:44
OODor right click on it and select the install menu09:44
cpk2zorglu_: I guess I am more of the linux mindset that you should try to do some reading before anything else09:44
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zorglu_cpk2: i understand what you mean but i purposly spend time with beginer to see how they use their computer. and believe me, reading doc is not part of it :)09:45
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cpk2zorglu_: hehe =D09:46
travishey thanks for the tips, i'm a newb09:46
zorglu_cpk2: in my experience, they do "wow it is too complex, i have no time for this"09:46
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zorglu_travis: it worked ?09:46
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cpk2zorglu_: I suppose though since irc is so easy to use why not take advantage of the easy help?09:47
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zorglu_cpk2: indeed, especially at the very begining when they switch from window to linux09:48
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travissort of09:48
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travisnow its saying dependcy problems09:48
travislol09:48
cpk2zorglu_: i would imagine we might go from telling people to edit source.list to spamming the apt-get command though =P09:49
travistheres two packages it says i don't have09:49
cpk2sources*09:49
travislibqt3c102 and kdelibs409:49
morphiusok, so when i try to login using kdm, I'm in a loop. If I put in my password, it takes me back to the login again (after trying to start kde). Upon further research, /dev/null has permission promlems. I have crw-------. So I "chmod a+rw" and now get crw-rw-rw-. Great. restart kdm and can login in fine. Reboot. /dev/null: now at crw------- again. I tried having my very last init script in rcS.d chmod the /dev/null automagically but still no go. Any ide09:49
zorglu_cpk2: at some point i even proposed to get a url to a irc channel directly on the screen after install :)09:49
cpk2travis: apt-get them09:49
cpk2zorglu_: would certainly help alot of people09:49
travisok09:49
zorglu_cpk2: yep, user could cut/past the command and it is less error prone09:50
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cpk2and help those people who dont do *any* research and would never know about irc09:50
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kyaneoshi09:51
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zorglu_cpk2: yep and imagine the thing, "i just installed the cd and ... wow if i click here i can talk to a lot of people having the same problem as me and we can exchange solution" :)09:51
kyaneoswhy kubuntu developers are using scriptings languages like Python-PyKDE to develop apps??09:52
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cpk2because they like using python?09:52
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zorglu_kyaneos: you already asked yesterday :) i guess they like this language. why are you looking for another reason ?09:52
kyaneosmm ok09:53
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kyaneossorry09:53
kyaneosthank you09:53
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otaku-sanhaven't ben on here in a while...ok how would I execute a .bin file?  I'm trying to get a GUI installer to execute09:53
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i_luv_beerwhat is written in python?09:53
fdovingmorphius: check /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules somewhere at the bottom you'll find "null"09:54
cpk2otaku-san: ./ maybe?09:54
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morphiusthanks fdoving. I'll give it a go.09:54
fdovingmorphius: the line should say 'KERNEL=="null",                         MODE="0666"09:55
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travisugh, ok, i am stupid, what is the command for apt-get?  like the package is libqt3c102, what would the exact command be for it?09:55
otaku-sancpk2: like in the konsole do ./ then the file....I might just go with the source...I can compile...just wanted to try the GUI09:55
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otaku-santravis: like sudo apt-get install (app) ?09:56
fdovingtravis: sudo apt-get install libqt3c10209:56
travisok, i will try it, but i doubt it will work09:56
morphiusfdoving: It does. Does not appear to be the problem.09:56
cpk2otaku-san: yes ./ filehere09:56
otaku-sanok I'll try that....if it doesn't work I'll fall back on good ol' trusty compilin'09:57
i_luv_beertravis: if it doesn't work try apt-get update09:57
fdovingmorphius: then either,  something is changing /dev/nulls permissions after udev has created it. or udev isn't run as it should.09:57
otaku-sanhehe thanks cpk209:57
cpk2otaku-san: it work?09:57
morphiusI'm thinking somthing with the xserver or kdm.09:57
i_luv_beerthere is also adept which makes installing packages even more brainless09:58
Sannemorphius: I once had to disable usplash to get past weird boot problems, you might give it a try.09:58
otaku-sancpk2: I'm about to try it09:58
otaku-sanjust was thanking you for your time09:58
travisthis is what comes up "09:58
travisPackage libqt3c102 is not available, but is referred to by another package.09:58
travisThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or09:58
travisis only available from another source09:58
fdovingmorphius: xserver or kdm doesn't change device permissions.09:58
JFreakCapohi, exist some msn client with voice support09:58
fdoving!info libqt3c10209:58
ubotuPackage libqt3c102 does not exist in any distro I know09:58
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fdovingtravis: the package doesn't exist.09:58
morphiussanne: I once had to hold down the shift key on a computer to get it to become usable. Maybe I'll give that a try too huh? ;)09:58
cpk2i_luv_beer: i think the cli apt-get is alot more clear09:58
travisugh, then why are they saying its dependent on it09:59
fdovingwho says?09:59
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Sannemorphius: I was not joking...09:59
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morphiussanne: I know.09:59
travisksmoothdock is saying it09:59
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traviswhenever i try to install the deb09:59
fdoving!ksmoothdock09:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ksmoothdock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:59
fdoving!info ksmoothdock09:59
ubotuPackage ksmoothdock does not exist in any distro I know09:59
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travisits from kde-look.org09:59
Thorrn4hello, I accidently deleted my "/usr/java" directory while trying to move a file, is there a way to get it back?09:59
Sannemorphius: well, after disabling usplash I could log in, so... but do as you like :)10:00
travisi like the dock from mac osx10:00
fdovingtravis: that explains it. it's unofficial.10:00
morphiusSanne: It's just a wild shot in the dark. But I'm willing to try it anyway. I also wasn't joking. I seriously did get a computer that did that.10:00
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Dendron--------How do i install XUBUNTU without a LIVE CD? IS that what the alternate CD is for?10:00
travisheh10:00
fdovingThorrn4: basically, no.10:00
i_luv_beer!info kvdocker10:00
ubotuPackage kvdocker does not exist in any distro I know10:00
i_luv_beer!info kvdock10:00
Thorrn4fdoving, wat is inside it, anything important?10:00
ubotuPackage kvdock does not exist in any distro I know10:00
cpk2Dendron: use apt-get10:00
i_luv_beer...10:00
Sannemorphius: ah, haha! Well, I disabled it in /boot/grub/menu.list. If you need assistance, just shout :)10:00
i_luv_beerone sec10:00
Thorrn4fdoving, I was trying to install java, but its not working still10:01
Dendron----cpk2i have a fresh HDD with nothing on it10:01
Thorrn4!java10:01
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository10:01
cpk2Dendron: i believer you can get any of the *ubuntu from any *ubuntu install10:01
fdovingThorrn4: probably nothing that can't be re-installed easily.10:01
JFreakCapoexist some msn client with voice support10:01
JFreakCapo??10:01
morphiusSanne: I got it. I'll give it a try as soon as I'm finished with some other stuff. Thanks!10:01
otaku-sancpk2: hehehe it keeps on complaining that ./ is a directory....hmmmm I know there is a command to execute bins....10:01
Sannemorphius: ak, good luck10:01
i_luv_beertravis10:01
otaku-sandang this channel is hoppin10:01
i_luv_beertry apt-get install kxdocker10:01
cpk2Dendron: or you could just go to xubuntu.org10:01
i_luv_beer!kxdocker10:01
ubotukxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.39-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 253 kB, installed size 832 kB10:01
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cpk2otaku-san: try sh10:01
otaku-sanyeah10:02
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Dendron------The LIVE CD hangs. Will the Alternate CD work better then a live CD?10:02
fdovingThorrn4: you can use 'dpkg -S /usr/java' to see what packages had files there.10:02
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cpk2Dendron: its possible, did you check the live cd for errors?10:02
Dendronyeah10:02
fdovingThorrn4: then you can use 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall list of packages separated by spaces'10:02
zorglu_all the boot option to make it eaise r? :)10:02
SanneDendron: some people have more luck with the alternate, worth a try10:02
travisi_luv_beer i do have kxdocker, but everytime it starts up, tons of things go wrong, like they have all these files pop up and i would rather have something more stable10:02
otaku-sani_luv_beer: Oh man...kxdocker was a pain for me to install...forgot how!  I know it was a pain...doesn't work either10:02
Dendron---thanks!10:02
zorglu_apci=off and stuff10:02
Dendron---i will give it a try.10:03
Thorrn4fdoving, the whole folder is gone: "dpkg: /usr/java not found"10:03
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i_luv_beerotaku-san: uh "apt-get install kxdocker"? :P10:03
i_luv_beerbut yeah I never used it10:03
i_luv_beerI did install it but I perfer kicker10:03
travisheh, i don't like kxdocker10:03
traviswhats kicker?10:03
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cpk2i could have sworn ./ executed bins?10:04
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otaku-sanno I had to do it another way...I think I compiled it...it was my first compiling and everything went wrong10:04
otaku-santhat to i_luv_beer10:04
i_luv_beertravis: the default panel of KDE10:04
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otaku-sancpk2: um....it's saying it cannot execute the bin10:04
travisheh ok10:04
Thorrn4fdoving, I found the help site, ty for the help10:04
otaku-sanshite...I'll just compile it...10:04
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i_luv_beer!superkambaramba10:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about superkambaramba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:05
i_luv_beerhmm10:05
tsdgeos!superkaramba10:05
ubotusuperkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org10:05
travisyeah, but those are widgets10:05
travisnot a dock10:05
travisi favor docks10:05
travisunfortunatly10:06
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travisoh well, i guess i can wait until a stable version comes out or something10:06
i_luv_beerit sorta worked for me10:06
i_luv_beerI just hated the configuration screen10:06
i_luv_beertoo confusing10:06
travisyeah10:06
travisand since i am a newb, i don't exactly know totally what i am looking at10:07
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tuxihi10:08
tuxianyone running ubuntu / kubuntu on vpc?10:08
otaku-sancpk2: d00d your thinking ./install.sh10:08
otaku-sanhehehe10:08
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i_luv_beerhmm I got it working10:10
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i_luv_beeryou have it installed travis?10:10
i_luv_beergo into "Run" in the KDE menu, type "kxdocker"10:10
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i_luv_beerbtw anytime you want to load a package all you gotta do is type the name10:10
i_luv_beereither in console or at a run prompt10:10
i_luv_beervery nice feature of linux command line10:10
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Thorrn4I have a problem with installing the Mozilla-flash pluggin - http://paste.uni.cc/10249 its not installing and its giving me an error10:11
i_luv_beerThorrn4: you using amd64, or ppc?10:12
Thorrn4no, x8610:12
i_luv_beer!easyubuntu10:12
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.10:12
travisheh, yeah but i can't configure the kxdocker to be at the top of the screen or right or left, it owon't let me10:12
i_luv_beertry that10:12
sybuxHow can I watch divx movie on kubu ?10:13
fdoving!codecs10:14
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:14
sybuxthx10:14
i_luv_beeryeah it's grayed out for me too10:14
i_luv_beerI really hate it's configuration dialog10:14
i_luv_beervery ugly10:14
cpk2otaku-san: oh, oops10:14
zorglu_fdoving: do you know if ubotu can provide stat about the usage frequency for each of its command ?10:15
i_luv_beersomeone make a ksmoothdock package plz :p10:15
fdovingzorglu_: not that i'm aware of.10:15
zorglu_fdoving: ok10:15
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mushroombluemsg nickserv identify halofive10:15
fdovingzorglu_: you can read about him at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage10:15
mushroomblueoh my god I know I didn't just do that.10:15
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mushroombluekbye10:15
zorglu_mushroomblue: time to change password :)10:15
fdovingmushroomblue: i suggest changing that password fast :)10:15
mushroomblueyup.10:16
i_luv_beerlol10:16
i_luv_beerSO TEMPTING10:16
fdovingzorglu_: https://bot.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?order=popularity%20DESC&page=010:16
fdovingzorglu_: sorted by popularity, most pop. first.10:16
otaku-sancpk2: kinda depends on the filename...and it has to be .sh  So it would be ./(install file..probably called install).sh10:17
zorglu_fdoving: yep just looking at it, thanks :)10:17
mushroombluewow. that was officially the lamest thing I've done on IRC.10:17
mushroombluekbye. :)10:17
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i_luv_beerI always type password in status screen10:17
Thorrn4i_luv_beer, I installed, but its not loading10:17
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i_luv_beerdid you copy paste the stuff said into terminal/10:18
cpk2I have my client send my login when i connect to irc10:18
i_luv_beermake sure to hit ENTER too10:18
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i_luv_beerlast commnad will not got executed without hitting enter10:19
cpk2otaku-san: i guess i normally just use .installs =P10:20
otaku-sanhehe10:21
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otaku-santhere is a .deb install for the file on they're site...but I don't know how to get those to work10:22
cpk2otaku-san: use dpkg10:22
cpk2i think it would be dpkg -i installthis.deb10:23
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otaku-sanyou mean point the file in konsole and put in dpkg (file) /10:23
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zorglu_cpk2: about our previous discussion, it is there https://bot.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu&order=popularity%20DESC&page=0 quite educationnal, in fact repository is only third10:23
otaku-sanoh question answered10:23
Raul12does alternate cd of kbuntu.iso is text or graphical installation10:24
cpk2if you are using the .deb otaku-san you would just do dpkg -i installthis.deb10:24
tsdgeos alternate is text afaik10:24
cpk2might need sudo to do it10:24
otaku-sanhmmm ok10:24
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Raul12is alternate is tuff to install ?10:24
cpk2zorglu_: i think they need to fix their certificate10:24
Raul12any help how to install10:24
zorglu_cpk2: yep :) but it is another issue10:25
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cpk2zorglu_: haha pastebin is second10:25
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SanneRaul12: alternate is not hard. Only if you plan to do custom partitions you need to concentrate a bit, but that's also not hard.10:25
zorglu_cpk2: :)10:26
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cpk2zorglu_: is this just from the ubuntu channel or all the channels?10:26
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zorglu_cpk2: all the channel the bot is on, from what i understand10:26
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cpk2wow compiz is 4th10:26
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Raul12Sanne any written document on alternate installation ?10:27
zorglu_cpk2: yep this eyes candy will do real good for linux10:27
i_luv_beerRaul12: both are easy, but the standard one allows you to use live-cd10:27
i_luv_beerRaul12: the alternate one allows you to script installations10:27
i_luv_beerso it is better if you want to install ubuntu on like 100 computers10:27
pielgrzymanybody knows how to move /boot to another partition? I got a very first partition with an exact copy of boot. grub boots with this partition - all I need to do is change fstab? :) help plz! :)10:27
cpk2zorglu_: yeah people coming from windows probably care most about "does it look pretty?" and "can i do everything from gui?"10:28
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SanneRaul12: I don't know of any links, sorry, but I'm sure they could be found if you try to search.10:28
otaku-sancpk2: *mouth drops open*  ....that was kinda sick how easy that was....*gently pokes box*10:28
zorglu_cpk2: i could not agree more :)10:28
cpk2otaku-san: dpkg is basically the same as using apt-get =D10:28
cpk2although i think all the user friendly stuff like apt-get is great, I enjoy being lazy10:29
otaku-sancpk2: it installed...lets see if it works...hehehe ;)  Yeah...just more manual labor!!! ;p10:29
otaku-sanheheh I agree with you10:29
otaku-sanLinux Users = Lazy ;)10:29
cpk2no one likes having to go through installing tons of libs just to compile something and install10:29
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otaku-sanno kidding10:30
otaku-santhats all I did to get Linux up to snuff....10:30
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tuxicpk2, there are still gentoo users10:30
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cpk2tuxi: yes, i have been linked some slashdot quotes =P10:31
arcasaHow can I get .wmv files to play properly? (Kubuntu Dapper amd64)10:32
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zorglu_!codec10:32
tuxiarcasa, think you can use ms dlls10:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:32
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zorglu_!codecd10:33
zorglu_!codecs10:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about codecd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:33
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:33
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zorglu_there :)10:33
arcasams dlls?10:33
tuximicrosoft dynamic link libarys10:34
cpk2tuxi: 'Gentoo doesn't ask what it can do to make things easier, it asks you exactly what it is that you want it to do, and then does precisely and only that.'10:34
MasterEvilAcewhat's a good image viewer? where i can load up a folder of images and just step through them10:34
arcasaWell according to Restricted Formats I can't play them.10:34
cpk2=P10:34
otaku-sancpk2: New something was up when it went easily....it won't come up...maybe I need to poke it a bit10:34
arcasaMaaan amd64 sucks. Why doesn't anyone bother helping us out?10:34
pielgrzymanybody knows how to move /boot to another partition? I got a very first partition with an exact copy of boot. grub boots with this partition - all I need to do is change fstab? :) help plz! :)10:34
zorglu_arcasa: you can with the w32codec if the wmv has no drm10:34
arcasaI don't have any win32codecs.10:35
arcasaWhere do i get them?10:35
zorglu_via the url i gave you at first :)10:35
zorglu_several command to do10:35
cpk2otaku-san: whats the program?10:35
otaku-sanits called CastPodder10:36
arcasaRestricted formats?10:36
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cpk2doesnt start at all?10:36
otaku-sanack restricted format!10:36
otaku-san....I type castpodder into konsole....nothing10:36
cpk2i am lauging reading this article on gentoo10:36
arcasaAMD64 architecture10:37
arcasaThe Windows Codecs package cannot be used directly by the AMD64 distribution. Some people solve this problem by installing the i386 Ubuntu distribution inside a chroot (for example, Linux Vserver or [WWW]  dchroot), and this works very well.10:37
arcasaFuck.10:37
cpk2!language10:37
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:37
arcasa!language10:37
otaku-sanI do it then like this CastPodder...a whole jumble of stuff comes up...complaining...but Castpodder doesn't come up10:37
arcasaAww... don't work for me.10:37
otaku-san...hehehe thats cuz cpk2 did it first10:37
otaku-sanI think the bot has a certain timelimit before it can be used again10:38
otaku-santo prevent bot abuse and flooding10:38
arcasaHow come after 3 years, No one's provided any support for amd64?10:39
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arcasaI can't play wmv now. That sucks.10:39
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arcasaBut you'd have thought, after 3 years, someone woulda fixed that.10:39
otaku-sancpk2: I tried going into usr/bin...found a script shell no exe10:39
zorglu_arcasa: an possibility would be to run on 32bit10:39
onehi evry110:39
arcasaYou mean reinstall kubuntu?10:39
onejust getting back 2 kubuntu, need sum sggestions10:40
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arcasaWhy on earth would I do that! amd64 is the newest... Should be the best! But no one thinks to update.10:40
cpk2otaku-san: they have any notes about it from where you got the dpkg?10:40
otaku-sanarcasa: d00d 64 is still in the infant stage...sad I know...so change to 32...that means compleatly getting a new CD image10:40
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arcasaI don't want to change to 32 bit.10:40
arcasaIt would be a waste of an AMD 64 4000+10:41
zorglu_arcasa: the 64bit is in progress, sorry for the incovenience10:41
arcasaProgress? 3 damn years!10:41
otaku-sanarcasa: Winbloze has almost no support10:41
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arcasaBut Windows works.10:41
arcasaAnd the pride of the Ubuntu premise is that the community are always updating.. Making it better.10:42
zorglu_arcasa: so you have 2 alternatives, either ubuntu in 32bit or window, it is up to you to choose10:42
otaku-sanarcasa: not all the way...64 is still new....nobody is totally willing to go over10:42
arcasaWell after 3 years, and still no wmv or wine support... i think that is a failure.10:42
cpk2you are blaming ubuntu that wine doesnt work?10:42
zorglu_arcasa: if you are not satified with ubuntu, you can use window. ubuntu want user to be satisfied10:42
arcasaSo how the hell am I gonna watch porn now?10:42
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arcasaI don't want to use windows dammnit. Windows suck.10:43
otaku-sancpk2: ok....they do have something on it....but the links borked10:43
zorglu_arcasa: well ok so you complain about everybody :)10:43
arcasaIt's computing for morons. I'm not a moron.10:43
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cpk2otaku-san: =\10:43
arcasaI complain that 3 years is a helluva long time to be in infant stages.10:43
Sannearcasa: wmv is proprietary, you need the half-legal win32codecs for those. There's not much free developers can do with proprietary formats, because of legal issues. That said, there are ways for 64but users, hold on, I'll get you a link.10:43
MasterEvilAceyeah entertainment is :-/ on ubuntu. Lots of videos i can't play because codecs and stuff just don't work.10:43
zorglu_arcasa: we proposed you all the solutions available and none satisfy you10:44
MasterEvilAceor not easily, atleast10:44
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cpk2you can always try using the plf repo for codecs10:44
otaku-san.........how about automatix or easyubuntu10:44
arcasaI do not want windows. Nor do I want to lose all my files by reinstalling.10:44
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arcasaplf repo? Explain please.10:44
cpk2arcasa: why would you lose all your files?10:44
cpk2!plf10:44
ubotuplf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc10:44
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Sannearcasa: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19120510:44
insparedes!es10:44
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:44
zorglu_plf wont do any good tho :)10:44
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cpk2!easysource10:45
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic10:45
arcasaBecause if I install the new kernel, my old one, including my files, would be overwritten.10:45
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cpk2that might have some non-free repos10:45
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otaku-sanI think Hawkwind has something on getting all the good repos10:45
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cpk2arcasa: move your important data to a different partition?10:45
Monchitogood afternoon10:45
cpk2and changing your kernel overwrites nothing10:45
Josh_how come my c++ compiler won't recognize the g++ command?10:46
Josh_i've already downloaded the build-essential package10:46
arcasaIt formats my drive! How can that overwrite nothing?!10:46
steveireit's gcc10:46
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zorglu_arcasa is definitly a though client :)10:47
Sannearcasa: expecially for wmv: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18897410:47
Josh_steveire i know its gcc10:47
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Josh_Jucato: you around?10:47
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arcasaHow long do you think until they start giving amd64 PROPER support?10:48
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lynxontno10:48
zorglu_arcasa: unpredictable10:48
cpk2arcasa: when you compile a new kernel all you do is add a new kernel to your machine (can be big or small, depends on how much you compile in) and then you can choose to boot from that kernel or any other numerous kernels you may have installed10:48
zorglu_arcasa: but likely long10:48
travisanyone know a good dvd ripper?10:48
lynxno10:48
zorglu_arcasa: using your meaning of 'proper' :)10:48
cpk2arcasa: probably around the time they start phasing out 32bit10:48
Monchitono man sorry10:48
Sannearcasa: the ubuntu devs already do that. The rest is up to the corporations.10:49
Josh_anyone know what i need to do to make my compiler recognize the g++ command?10:49
zorglu_Josh_: what do you mean ? g++ is the compiler10:49
arcasaI have a dream. A dream where 32 bit kernels... and 64 bit kernels... Can live together in peace... Sharing the same abilities and compatibilities.10:49
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zorglu_arcasa: well unfortunatly it is a dream10:50
Josh_zorglu: here is my problem, i coded c++ program on xemacs, it asks for the make, and i type n g++ etc. then it says10:50
Sannearcasa: why do you need a 32bit kernel on a 64bit ubuntu?10:50
sinpathneed help >.< windows user now useing linux " i need some help with setting up my all-in-one printer10:50
cpk2i'm sure 64bit will be backwards compatible10:50
Josh_my compilation exited abnormally because /b/bin/bash: g++: command not10:50
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otaku-sancpk2: it has to be...no one would change over...10:51
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Josh_command not found10:51
zorglu_Josh_: ok type "which g++" in a terminal10:51
cpk2otaku-san: nonsense, the companies can do whatever they want, you cant put an agp card into a pci-e slot now can you? =P10:51
arcasaI wish all you 32 bit people would evolve to 64 :P10:51
zorglu_Josh_: what does it say ?10:51
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arcasaIt's such a shame that the human race are so pathetic when it comes to moving onto something new.10:52
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arcasaThe energy crisis is a perfect example.10:52
zorglu_arcasa: please behave and watch the language10:52
otaku-sanwell my mplayer is borked....always has been...anyone know of another player I could use for firefox10:52
Josh_zorglu: which g++ in the terminal brought up nothing for me10:52
otaku-sancpk2: true true10:52
zorglu_Josh_: so it is not installed10:52
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arcasaWe COULD just use windfarms and other safe things... But NO. Human race wants to drain all the natural resources... Then complain... Then suffer.10:52
cpk2arcasa: i purposefully dont have a 64bit because i know it is still new and has very little support10:52
sinpathi need some help with setting up my all-in-one printer hp printer wont run or isnt detected10:52
cpk2not to mention very little people are optimizing for 64bit10:53
arcasaI really find it hard to belive that something can still be classed as "new" after 3 years.10:53
SanneJosh_, zorglu_: package build-essential?10:53
Josh_zorglu: what do i need to download? i thought i needed to download the build-essential package10:53
zorglu_Sanne: he said he installed it, trying to narrow down the issue10:53
otaku-sanarcasa: I understand your point but whining about it won't help...get out there and do something!  We need more pushing and work and less whining and sitting10:53
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sinpathcan any one help me with my printer?10:54
Sannezorglu_: sorry, didn't catch it, will be silent now ;)10:54
cpk2and you cant put a windfarm in any old place10:54
Monchitowhat is da problemman?10:54
arcasaOtaku... I started Kubuntu 6 days ago. I WISH I could "get out there and do something!"... But I really can't. No where near skilled enough.10:54
zorglu_Sanne: no need to be sorry, only updating you :)10:54
Sannezorglu_: thanks :)10:54
zorglu_arcasa: well learn and then contribute10:55
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zorglu_!build-essential10:55
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)10:55
Monchitosinpath: what is da problem?10:55
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Josh_zorglu: i'll be right back i think i found the problem but i may needyour help again10:55
zorglu_ok10:55
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sinpathit wont detect it10:55
arcasaI am learning... A couple of days ago I couldn't run a terminal... I couldn't make my way through my files in a terminal.... I'm actually amazed how quickly I'v picked it up.10:55
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cpk2the best way to learn is by abandoning windows so you *have* to figure it out or you cant get done what you want10:56
otaku-sanarcasa: me neither man!  I've been using Linux all of like 2 months!  I'm so n00b it's not even funny.  But here is an answer.  save your files to disk, key drive.  nuke the 64 bit ubuntu.  Change over to 32 bit...learn on that!  And then once your knowlegable go back to 64 bit10:57
cpk2btw otaku-sanyou try dpkg-reconfigure castpodder10:57
otaku-sanand it might have better support by then10:57
otaku-sancpk2: cool...trying that now10:57
cpk2might give you some setup optioins10:57
sinpathlinux is a first for me & i dont have the set up disk for  it which i was told wont work10:57
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arcasaNo man.... I find the principle of DOWNGRADING my kernel.... Idiotic.10:57
arcasaI'll bitch and moan until support for amd64 comes :P10:57
Sannearcasa: that, or actually go to the links I gave you and read what's on there. There are solutions to most 64bit problems. If you get stuck with details, come back here for help.10:58
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otaku-sanarcasa: then your unwilling to LEARN!10:58
cpk2then learn how to build a 64bit program and help the community10:58
zorglu_arcasa: please avoid all the insult everywhere10:58
cpk2err system not program10:58
arcasaI have read.10:58
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arcasaI read them while trying to install wine.10:58
|lostbyte|ANy one here installed ubuntu server edition ?10:58
arcasait's impossible without a chroot... And that is something I won't do.10:58
otaku-sanarcasa: to learn you have to crawl before walking....using 64 ubuntu is like using a beta...it's not for a n00b...go back...then work forward10:58
Sannearcasa: I have wine on a 64bit system without chroot.10:59
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otaku-sancpk2: ok I did that and it waited for a sec then went back to normal11:00
cpk2no configure options?11:00
travisman, i wish you could make the default clock just say the am pm time, instead of military time11:00
Sannearcasa: for wine, I pretty much followed this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18555711:00
cpk2travis: you can11:01
travisyou can?11:01
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cpk2travis: right click the time then go to date time format11:01
arcasaDoes the wine work?11:01
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otaku-sancpk2: nope...no config options11:02
cpk2otaku-san: did anyone else make any debs of it? maybe its a broken deb?11:02
otaku-sanSanne: I think arcasa is asking you that...if you missed it11:02
travisi tried that, i don't see anythign to change into am and pm11:02
Sannearcasa: talking to me? Of so, please mention my name so I get highlighted by my chat program. So far, what I wanted to run with wine works so much as to be expected, at least not worse than on 32bit.11:02
|lostbyte|!fork11:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:02
arcasaSanne: Does it work properly :P11:02
|lostbyte|!find fork11:02
cpk2travis: go to the date and time tab11:02
ubotuFound: libprefork-perl, apache2-mpm-prefork, apache2-prefork-dev11:02
|lostbyte|:(11:02
Sanneotaku-san: yeah, just figured, thanks :)11:03
arcasaOne single thing I miss about Windows.... Is Tibia :(11:03
sinpaththat sucks11:03
cpk2travis: change hh:mm:ss to the other options11:03
otaku-sanSanne: np11:03
Sannearcasa: as much as you can expect, yes.11:03
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arcasaSanne: Thanks dude.11:03
otaku-sancpk2:  sadly it's just one deb file....11:03
Sannearcasa: /me no dude ;) but you're welcome11:03
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cpk2otaku-san: too bad that link with the notes you mentioned is broken =\11:04
arcasaJust a random question... How old is everyone?11:04
arcasaI'm 14.11:04
cpk2otaku-san: guess you might want to try uninstalling with dpkg and then compiling11:04
travisah yes, i did that, but its still on military time, do i ahve to restart the computer?11:04
sinpath25 & no clue with linux11:04
Sannelol11:04
cpk2travis: did you apply the changes?11:05
travisyup11:05
travisand something came up and i clicked yes11:05
cpk2i dont see why kdm would have to be restarted11:05
otaku-sancpk2: hehehe yeah...it sux0rz  Hmmm let me check the tarball...11:05
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travishmm, it says if i want to change language(which i don't) i have to logout11:06
travisheh11:06
travisthats silly11:06
|lostbyte|Listen up, i have a laptop cdrom is crashed and there ant a floopy drive on it. How do i install kubuntu on it ...........?11:07
cpk2sinpath: how is your printer plugged into your machine?11:07
sinpathusb11:07
cpk2|lostbyte|: network install?11:07
arcasaThanks Sanne :D I now have wine installed on amd64 :D:D:D:D11:07
otaku-santravis: yes you have to logout...11:07
arcasaNow to try and install Tibia. . .11:07
cpk2sinpath: does it show up if you do lsusb?11:07
|lostbyte|cpk2, does'nt that need a floopy.11:07
|lostbyte|?11:07
cpk2!printer11:07
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows11:07
travisheh alright11:07
sinpathits an all in one hp135011:07
otaku-sanarcasa: see...you just had to wait for someone who knew.  Have fun man11:07
sinpathwhats a lsusb?11:07
cpk2sinpath: open a terminal and type "lsusb11:08
cpk2"11:08
cpk2without quotes11:08
Sannearcasa: hey, congrats! :)11:08
lupine_85 sinpath: HP are generally well-supported. Have you tried adding it using the control panel?11:08
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lupine_85(just got in from work!)11:08
arcasaWhy do corporations hate our guts?11:08
sinpathok i'll try that thanks cpk211:08
|lostbyte|any one ?11:08
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sinpathumm no im new to linux11:09
arcasaDoes M$ pay them off behind our backs or something?11:09
arcasaJust to make our lives difficult?11:09
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cpk2|lostbyte|: some motherboards can do networking with the bios11:09
lupine_85|lostbyte|: see the wiki for alternative install options11:09
ahmeniIs there a package that has the vim kpart in dapper or edgy?11:09
lupine_85!install11:09
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues11:09
lupine_85mwahahaha11:09
|lostbyte|cpk2, lupine_85, yes my laptop suport the ethernet boot11:10
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lupine_85you don't need it.11:10
lupine_85see the link above11:10
arcasawine: creating configuration directory '/home/arcasa/.wine'...11:10
arcasaX Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)11:10
arcasa  Major opcode of failed request:  142 (GLX)11:10
arcasa  Minor opcode of failed request:  3 (X_GLXCreateContext)11:10
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arcasa  Serial number of failed request:  1411:10
arcasa  Current serial number in output stream:  1511:11
arcasawine: wineprefixcreate failed while creating '/home/arcasa/.wine'.11:11
arcasaarcasa@Alchemy:~$ wwineserver: could not save registry branch to /home/arcasa/.wine-kA9BF2/system.reg : No such file or directory11:11
arcasawineserver: could not save registry branch to /home/arcasa/.wine-kA9BF2/user.reg : No such file or directory11:11
arcasawine tibia781.exe11:11
arcasaSorry about the long post. . . .11:11
otaku-sanarcasa: d00d stop posting that in the channel!  Use pastebin11:11
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otaku-san!pastebin11:11
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:11
|lostbyte|lupine_85, been there dude, only possible tecq from there was ethernet install and usbstick.11:11
arcasaOK I'll do that next time... Can anyone help me?11:11
|lostbyte|lupine_85, left out usbstick cause i only have a 512 mb one11:11
|lostbyte|i was so close.11:11
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otaku-sanarcasa: you might want to google it11:12
otaku-sanlet it sit there a while and see if anyone knows11:12
|lostbyte|any one here done the network boot ?11:12
cpk2|lostbyte|: you can "make" your own install iso to make it smaller11:12
Sannearcasa: can you run winecfg (from a terminal)?11:13
|lostbyte|cpk2, link me.11:13
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lupine_85can you boot from a USB stick?11:13
lupine_85(forget about the size for now)11:13
|lostbyte|lupine_85, yes, i can. but i wasnt a kubuntu iso of, 490 MB11:14
|lostbyte|its only a 512 mb stick11:14
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|lostbyte|wasnt/want*11:14
arcasaNo I can't run winecfg.11:15
arcasaI get that stupid error.11:15
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|GaiJin|what is the command for making firefox opening a url in a new tab rather than a new window??11:15
klerfaytkonqueror goes crazy if I type   man:xorg.conf  into address bar11:15
|lostbyte||GaiJin|, mozilla-firefox <url>11:15
lupine_85|lostbyte|: the ptoblem with booting from ethernet is that you need another system to boot *from* - and I doubt you have that. But, you can install "any other" - smaller - linux onto the USB stick, and bootstrap Ubuntu from there11:15
|lostbyte|argh11:15
lupine_85 sinpath: what's the exact name of your printer?11:16
cpk2|lostbyte|: well i lost the link11:17
|lostbyte|lupine_85, yes, i have another kubuntu system, i am on it right now.11:17
|lostbyte|:o11:17
arcasaAnyone got any ideas for this error?11:17
klerfaytcould someone type  man:xorg.conf  into konqueror address bar and see if it works?11:17
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|lostbyte|lupine_85, the guide on wiki.ubuntu.com, for netinstal. are you referening to that one.11:17
|lostbyte|refering*11:18
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lupine_85I'm not referring anything :). going from memory11:18
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ahmeniAww, looks like kvim and the vimpart project shut down :(11:18
lupine_85if you can do the netboot, that might be easier but I've never done it11:18
arcasaX Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)11:18
arcasaWhen i run winecfg11:18
arcasaSomeone save my soul. Please.11:19
cpk2lupine_85: you know anything about changing the iso install to include/exclude what you want11:19
|lostbyte|lupine_85, dude, like you said you need to boot from another pc. i was wondering which method your talking about ?11:19
lupine_85|lostbyte|: for net boot, you need another PC to serve the OS to the booting PC.11:19
lupine_85you have that - so give it a go11:19
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|lostbyte|lupine_85, Alright..11:20
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lupine_85xpk2: not really. Personally, I'd fude it by copying the contents of the .iso to a new directory, deleting anything I didn't want on the CD, then using mkisofs (or whatever) to recreate the ISP11:20
lupine_85ISO*. No doubt you'd need to do something to keep it bootable, but I don't know what11:20
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|lostbyte|lupine_85, is this what i need to do -----> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot ? just making sure..11:23
Sannearcasa: sorry, if you did all as written in the tread I posted, it should work. I used that and didn't get an error. Maybe ask on ubuntuforums in the 64bit section, or ask in #winehq?11:24
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ahmeni|lostbyte|: yeah, that should do what you need11:25
|lostbyte|tx11:25
arcasaSanne: I'm asking in wineHQ now :P11:26
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Sannearcasa: good luck :)11:27
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otaku-sancpk2: Adept Manager says castpodder is installed11:31
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wheatearhello everyone :)11:35
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steveireflashplugin-nonfree is giving me hassle since an upgrade. Anything I can do about that?11:36
arcasaMolotov everything?11:36
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wheatearanyone got a sec to answer a question or three?11:38
MasterEvilAcewheatear: just ask it :)11:39
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wheatearok... :)  well how do I go about compiling and installing the skge module?11:41
wheatearI've been instructed to do this: sudo apt-get install build-essential checkinstall linux-headers-`uname -r`11:43
wheatearwhich I see has installed g++, make etc11:43
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wheatearand thats as far as i've got :P11:44
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Knifamy spare computer doesn't like the kubuntu disc ._.11:44
ahmeniwheatear: build-essential and such will get you the environment to compile the module, you should just have to follow the module's instructions now11:45
Knifaor rather it loads and goes11:45
Knifa"the process for the file protocol died unexpedctadly"11:45
Knifaperhaps livecd on a p3 500mhz with 64mb of rams is a bad idea.11:45
zorglu_!bash11:45
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands11:45
satemplerfor Kubuntu Edgy+1 do i need to go into #ubuntu+111:45
lupine_85satempler: probably best11:46
satemplerok11:46
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satempleris there a how to on bug reporting11:47
satempleri have a lot btw11:47
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lupine_85!bugs11:47
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com11:48
klerfaytsatempler: go here; register; and start reporting11:48
lupine_85it's pretty easy :)11:48
satemplerok11:48
klerfaytsatempler: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu11:48
MasterEvilAcereporting is fun and awesome!11:48
ccherrettI am about to buy a nvidia 7900GT. Is there anything to look out for or does the card work well in linux. I think the nvidia driver supports it?11:48
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MasterEvilAceremember: reporting duplicates is not so fun and awesome! :)11:49
SonicChaohow do I stop windows from clumping together?11:49
arcasaClick and Drag.11:50
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SonicChaoNo...I mean in the taskbar11:51
SonicChaoWhen it goes "Firefox-bin [3] " etc11:51
arcasaOh... That's kinda built in.11:51
arcasaPerformance thing.11:51
arcasaBesides, Don't you use tabs?11:51
SonicChaoIt's not just that.11:52
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ahmeniSonicChao: there's an option in the control panel to turn it off11:52
arcasaWell my advice... Use your extra desktops.11:52
SonicChaoWhere?11:52
arcasaUp near your clock.11:53
ahmeniSonicChao: kcontrol > Desktop > Taskbar > Group similar tasks11:54
Knifawill kubuntu run on a p3 500mhz with 64mb of ram? D:11:54
arcasaI do not no. But I wish you luck :)11:54
Knifa:|11:54
Knifawell11:54
Knifathe live cd is taking years to load in11:54
Knifait's so slow the cursor lags when you move it11:55
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ahmeniyou'll probaby have to enable a swap space so it doesn't run out of memory11:55
Knifayeah11:55
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ahmeniotherwise I run it on a p3 600 with 128 semi-decently11:55
arcasaHeh... What kinda person owns a P3 with 64MB of ram these days anyway?11:55
klerfaytwhat is the cheat code for livecd to use 1280x800 resolution?11:55
Knifait is a spare computer11:55
ahmeniarcasa: people who know that p3's are still worthy of being a decent linux desktop ;D11:56
wheatearwell my kubuntu is running really nice on a p3 600 with 512 ram11:56
Tokeiitowhat kde FTP client is the best? i've tryed kbear and kftpgrabber but both are not stable11:56
klerfaytTokeiito: kasablanca11:57
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arcasaI like Pie.11:57
MasterEvilAceeverybody likes pie11:57
arcasa:D11:58
LeeJunFanwarm apple pie.11:58
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ahmenieep, not enough space on this laptop to upgrade to edgy11:58
Knifai think the cd blew up.11:58
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Knifais there uh11:58
KaiHanarihow do i add another port for sshd?11:58
Knifaanyway i can install it without going through the live cd thing11:58
sorush20why is my cpu load so high please? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2413811:58
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arcasaOK So I have about a Gig of Goth Porn.11:58
Knifa:|11:59
arcasaI want to view it all as a slideshow.11:59
rawrwhats your problem knifa?11:59
LeeJunFanarcasa: gwenview11:59
arcasaIs there anyway to get Konqueror to show me all my pr0n?11:59
arcasaAh thanks LeeJunFan.11:59
Knifawell you see i'm insane and trying to install kubuntu on a p3 500mhz with 64mb of ram11:59
Knifabut the live cd kills it11:59
rawrAhh11:59
Knifaand it takes ages to get to the installer11:59
rawrtry the alternet cd11:59
rawrkubuntu live crashed mine real slow11:59
rawrand i have 256 ramm XD12:00
Knifa:O12:00
LeeJunFansorush20: run 'top' from a konsole/shell and see what it tells you.12:00
rawrunder downloads install alternet cd12:00
rawrits text based12:00
satemplerhow do i restart kde-guidance-powermanager12:00
Knifakk12:00
MasterEvilAcei have 256 ram, too12:00
rawrYay i helped my first person.12:00
MasterEvilAcewish i had more12:00
rawryea i need to buy more12:00
rawr256 more is about 40 bucks though12:00
Knifamabye i should try ubuntu actually12:01
sorush20root is using 55% of cpu12:01
rawrthat works  to12:01
sorush20root xorg12:01
rawrand if you don't like gnome12:01
rawrjust install the kde enviro ment12:01
Knifai like gnome but i want to try something else12:01
Knifaoh finally the install window appearewd!12:01
sorush20the command is xorg12:01
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rawrand knifa12:02
Knifaahoy12:02
rawrif your running on a real small ramm cpu12:02
rawrtry xubuntu12:02
Knifakay12:02
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sorush20is there a really minimalistic gui just like the terminal but with not graphics just text and colour..12:02
rawrtakes less resources12:02
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Josh_is there a way to import songs from cds like on itunes?12:02
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sorush20yes Josh_12:03
rawrmany12:03
harleypigI'm having a problem with openoffice after doing a dist-upgrade ... several unmet dependencies.  I can't go back or forward.12:03
Josh_sorush20 how?12:03
rawracidripper is one i think.12:03
sorush20Josh_: kAudioCreator..12:03
rawrXD even says cd ripperr next to it...12:04
sorush20Josh_: up to you whether you want mp3 or free ogg, if you have an ipod you can install linux on to it and run ogg on your ipod..12:04
Josh_sorush20 it says i don't have an encoder? how do i get an encoder12:04
sorush20why is root using so much cpu12:04
rawrwhat takes up less space mp3 or ogg?12:04
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LeeJunFansorush20: not root - xorg, good question though - you have something goin on on your desktop like visual plugins for amarok or something?12:05
Josh_what do you guys do when kubuntu freezes up?12:05
OODCTRL+Alt+Backspace12:05
rawrI unplug my cpu XD12:05
OODtaht should restart X12:06
klerfaytJosh_: never freezed12:06
sorush20LeeJunFan: I'm doing home work browsing and typing in OOo..12:06
rawrI think ctrll alt back locks it up even more12:06
sorush20Josh_: I'm not sure..12:06
OODsince it's mostly the GUI that freezes12:06
rawrmine like gos all colorfull12:06
rawrwith white lines and stuffs12:06
SanneJosh_: also do a memtest onyour RAM to make sure it's ok.12:06
sorush20Josh_: check in the adept..12:06
LeeJunFansorush20: it could be some aggressive animations on a webpage you are viewing, but likely the browser would show up as using a lot of cpu too.12:06
sorush20true..12:07
sorush20LeeJunFan:12:07
Josh_sorush20 check in the adept for what?12:07
Josh_sorush20 do i just type in encode?12:07
rawrany one  know any good apps for making kde look prdyer?12:07
MasterEvilAce?12:07
sorush20Josh_: yes.12:07
Knifaxgl!12:07
OODyeah12:07
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OODrawr, just go to kde-look.org and download some good looking stuff :)12:08
OODyou can get icon themes, window themes, backgrounds etc12:08
LeeJunFanyeah, xgl isn't really for new users. You may end up b0rking your system good.12:08
arcasaHow do I get rid of the gui login? (it sucks... terminal login is awesomeness.)12:08
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OODlol12:08
sorush20LeeJunFan: do you think I should kill it12:08
LeeJunFanuntil edgy is out anyway and one can use standard ubuntu packages for xgl.12:08
LeeJunFansorush20: if you kill xorg you will loose your GUI.12:09
echo1So I just installed the fglrx drivers (newest ones, from the ati site, using the ati installer.)  glxinfo|grep direct tells me there is no direct rendering.  What is the problem?12:09
ahmeniarcasa: update-rc.d kdm remove12:09
LeeJunFansorush20: ie. you will be logged out and have to log back in.12:09
zorglu_q. kate eat my cpu like crazy, like 80% when i dont even use it, any known bug ?12:09
Josh_sorush20 im having errors encoding wav files12:09
LeeJunFansorush20: but you may need to do that to get it under control. That's certainly not a normal thing to happen.12:09
LeeJunFanzorglu_: no such problem here.12:10
Tokeiitodamn. how to make in kasablanca automaticaly rewrite files?12:10
satemplerhow do I restart kde-guidance-powermanager12:11
Tokeiitothis problem is in most of all KDE ftp clients12:11

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