[12:42] <infinity> BenC: ABI bumps in linux-meta work a lot better if you remember to edit debian/rules. :P
[01:16] <BenC> infinity: oops, guess I need to make a damn checklist
[01:17] <infinity> BenC: No big deal.  Uploaded to fix it already.
[01:19] <infinity> BenC: I just enjoy a good public shaming. :)
[01:20] <BenC> infinity: is that listed in your resume under "Extracuricular activity"? :)
[01:20] <infinity> Should be. :)
[01:50] <zul> ooh...i get alot of those
[03:55] <mjg59> BenC: I've just stuck a fix #53910
[04:18] <BenC> mjg59: done
[04:18] <BenC> did it in dapper too
[04:18] <mjg59> Thanks
[04:18] <BenC> thank you
[06:05] <Bryce> Anyone around?
[07:37] <fabbione> BenC: i got all our gfs2 patches upstream modulo the 2 required to run on .17. i will have something to push to you for when you wake up
[07:39] <infinity> He's awake. :)
[07:42] <AnAnt> ping BenC
[07:45] <AnAnt> BenC: does Knot-3 include the TI MMC driver ?
[07:58] <fabbione> infinity: but i am not ready to push yet :)
[10:40] <ant1> ping BenC 
[10:42] <AnAnt> BenC: I just upgraded the kernel
[10:43] <AnAnt> BenC: my laptop (it has a TI card reader) did detect that something got in the card slot at last
[10:43] <AnAnt> BenC: but it did not create a suitable device for it in /dev/  (it was an MMC btw)
[11:11] <tonfa> gug
[11:28] <tonfa> I was usually using gentoo and testing -mm kernel, now I have ubuntu on my work laptop and I'd like to continue testing -mm
[11:29] <tonfa> is there a preferred way to do that ?
[11:29] <tonfa> (and tell if that is offtopic)
[01:31] <pina> messing with drivers will have one learning how to mess w/ the kernel build system pretty sharpish
[01:31] <pina> note to self
[02:11] <AnAnt> ping BenC 
[02:17] <mjg59> AnAnt: Load tifm_sd
[02:17] <AnAnt> mjg59: ok 
[02:20] <pina> suse it's the only one which works with kerberos/ldap out of the box?
[02:20] <pina> doesnt ubuntu?
[02:24] <AnAnt> btw, the splash doesn't work here
[02:24] <AnAnt> it did work from the Knot-3 Live CD
[02:25] <makx> what are your bootargs cat /proc/cmdline ?
[02:26] <AnAnt> well, I am using dapper now, shall I read the args from the grub file ?
[02:27] <AnAnt> makx: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-8-386 root=/dev/hda5 ro quiet splash vga=0x314
[02:28] <pina> makx any hints on what i asked
[02:29] <makx> pina ldap is not on topic here, but it works nicely here (although using Debian)
[02:30] <pina> weird 
[02:31] <AnAnt> makx: ?
[02:32] <AnAnt> makx: ok, I'll reboot in Edgy now
[02:32] <AnAnt> later
[02:32] <pina> thanks makx
[02:34] <pina> makx out of the box right?
[02:34] <pina> tried with ubuntu does not work quite that well
[02:34] <pina> oh wel
[02:35] <pina> always thought only suse had it working out of the box
[02:37] <AnAnt> makx: root=/dev/hda5 ro quiet splash vga=0x314
[02:38] <AnAnt> makx: so what you think the problem is ?
[02:38] <AnAnt> makx: I get an error that there is no theme for 640x480
[02:38] <infinity> AnAnt: It's a known bug that edgy's usplash doesn't currently work with vga=
[02:39] <AnAnt> infinity: I tried without vga= too
[02:39] <AnAnt> infinity: didn't work also
[02:39] <mjg59> Well, it works, but you won't get any consoles afterwards
[02:39] <mjg59> The error is due to the artwork not being complete
[02:39] <AnAnt> I can try again without vga=
[02:40] <AnAnt> ok, I just unpacked the initrd image
[02:40] <mjg59> It won't make any difference
[02:41] <AnAnt> I found this in usplash.conf: 
[02:41] <AnAnt> xres=640
[02:41] <AnAnt> yres=480
[02:41] <AnAnt> can that be the problem ?
[02:41] <mjg59> 13:39 < mjg59> The error is due to the artwork not being complete
[02:41] <makx> infinity the debian bts has a patch for the fb handling
[02:41] <makx> had no time yet to polish and integrate
[02:42] <makx> -> http://bugs.debian.org/386441
[02:43] <AnAnt> mjg59: I don't understand, it did work from the Knot-3 live CD
[02:44] <AnAnt> mjg59: yet it won't work from the installed version
[02:44] <AnAnt> makx: btw, the MMC worked, thanks
[02:44] <makx> pina : no idea what you mean by out of the box
[02:45] <AnAnt> makx: is it a bug that tifm_sd doesn't automatically load
[02:45] <makx> AnAnt: never heard about tifm_sd and i'm really only a guest here
[02:46] <AnAnt> huh ?
[02:46] <AnAnt> who told me about tifm_sd
[02:46] <AnAnt> mjg59: was it you ?
[02:46] <mjg59> AnAnt: Yes
[02:46] <AnAnt> mjg59: is it a bug that tifm_sd doesn't automatically load
[02:46] <zul> hey mjg59 
[02:46] <mjg59> AnAnt: Yes
[02:46] <AnAnt> mjg59: ok, thanks
[02:46] <AnAnt> mjg59: ok back to the usplash thing
[02:47] <AnAnt> mjg59: I don't understand why it works from the Knot-3 Live CD, yet not working from the installed Edgy
[02:47] <mjg59> 13:41 < mjg59> 13:39 < mjg59> The error is due to the artwork not being complete
[02:47] <AnAnt> mjg59: well I seen that
[02:47] <mjg59> And that's why it fails
[02:48] <AnAnt> mjg59: even on the same machine ?
[02:48] <mjg59> There's no 640x480 artwork. 
[02:48] <mjg59> Yes.
[02:48] <AnAnt> mjg59: aha, so are there artwork for different resolution ?
[02:48] <mjg59> It would look dreadful otherwise
[02:49] <AnAnt> ok
[02:50] <AnAnt> thanks
[02:55] <AnAnt> btw the linux console has a wierd font after I upgraded
[02:55] <AnAnt> is that kernel related or what ?
[02:55] <zul> no
[02:56] <AnAnt> what then ?
[02:56] <zul> i think its usplash related
[02:56] <AnAnt> zul: again !
[02:56] <AnAnt> so usplash will fix the splash & the font ? 
[02:57] <zul> probably
[02:57] <AnAnt> k , cool
[05:21] <zul> ooh when will edgy be 2.6.18 ;)
[05:23] <makx> zul grab d-kernel, but they are vastly mainline :-P -> http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel/
[05:23] <zul> makx: it was a joke
[05:39] <tonfa> is there a list of patch applied to the ubuntu-kernel somewhere ?
[05:39] <tonfa> (that are not in mainline)
[05:40] <zul> yes in git
[05:41] <tonfa> any git magic to find it ? because i suppose some patch are just backports, other are only in ubuntu's kernel
[05:41] <zul> what are you looking for?
[05:43] <tonfa> if running an -mm kernel instead of the ubuntu one is "safe"
[05:43] <makx> -mm != "safe"
[05:43] <tonfa> if i will lose some features or not
[05:43] <tonfa> makx: i know i'm running on them since a few years
[05:44] <tonfa> and i want to continue that while using ubuntu
[05:44] <tonfa> you can contribute some patches easily while running -mm
[05:44] <tonfa> i like that
[06:02] <BenC> mjg59: ping
[06:04] <mjg59> BenC: Hi
[06:04] <BenC> mjg59: Would it make sense to backport 2.6.18 libata+drivers to our kernel?
[06:05] <BenC> main reason I'm asking is because there's some core2duo ich8 support in 2.6.18 and it's non-trivial backporting this
[06:05] <mjg59> BenC: Urgh.
[06:05] <mjg59> I don't see why not, but it's likely you'll have to suck in scsi as well
[06:06] <BenC> sounds like a cascading effect...ata->scsi->usb+firewire
[06:06] <BenC> hopefully I'll get my core2duo laptop soon enough to test all this junk
[06:08] <Nafallo> hehe, will end up pulling the whole 2.6.18 then ;-)
[06:09] <zul> BenC: uh...kernel-package from unstable you need to create a .config before doing anything
[06:11] <tonfa> BenC: is that the libata part where you have to change your fstab ?
[06:11] <tonfa> because ide is seen as sd*
[06:15] <zul> BenC: the new kernel-package from debian unstable works with 2.6.18 maybe we should consider resyncing one more time
[06:16] <BenC> tonfa: no
[06:16] <BenC> zul: I'm not sure I'll have time to look at it, so you may want to look at what bits need to be synced
[06:16] <zul> sure..
[06:19] <BenC> mjg59: nm, I think I got all the ich8 bits (hopefully)
[07:05] <Nafallo> :-P
[07:14] <desrt> BenC; 'sup
[07:14] <desrt> BenC; i got some good news and some bad news
[07:16] <desrt> good news: the ACPI stuff in -8 causes my laptop to successfully wake up again
[07:16] <desrt> bad news: the ACPI stuff in -8 causes my laptop to go successfully to sleep only occasionally
[07:16] <desrt> it gets suck at some line about SMP Alternatives: Switching to UP code
[07:16] <desrt> and gets no farther than that
[08:30] <svu_tv> BenC, ping
[08:30] <BenC> svu_tv: pong
[08:32] <svu_tv> BenC, just a quick question: is there any way I could help debugging the problem with kernel on G5? Are you aware it is not bootable?
[08:33] <BenC> I'm aware yes, and I have a G5 right here I am going to fix it on by Monday
[08:33] <svu_tv> BenC, thanks a lot, you are just saving my soul
[08:38] <Goliath23> hi
[08:40] <Goliath23> is there a known problem with the linux-k7 package and its dependencies concerning the nvidia driver (or linux-restricted-modules in general) linux-k7 depends on the 2.6.15.27 kernel image, but also on the 2.6.15.27 restricted modules package... isn't that a mismatch? because on my system the nvidia module fails to load and modprobe says it can't find it ... insmod works though...
[08:43] <Goliath23> in other words: what have I done wrong if modprobe fails to find the nvidia module, but the restricted modules package is installed?
[08:50] <Goliath23> update: when I boot the 2.6.15.26 kernel it works and the module is loaded
[08:50] <Goliath23> thats --- strange!
[08:52] <BenC> Goliath23: make sure you have everything updated and in sync
[08:52] <Goliath23> you mean sudo apt-get update & upgrade?
[08:52] <Goliath23> yes, everything is in sync
[08:52] <BenC> Goliath23: and what is out of sync about linux-k7 depending linux-image-2.5.15-27-k7 and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-k7?
[08:53] <BenC> you do have both those packages installed?
[08:53] <Goliath23> for restricted modules its .23!
[08:53] <BenC> you are probably looking at the meta packages
[08:54] <BenC> dpkg --get-selections | grep 2.6.15-27
[08:54] <BenC> show me the output for that
[08:54] <Goliath23> when i install linux-k7, it instales the *.27 image, but that doesn't boot then
[08:54] <Goliath23> k
[08:54] <Goliath23> hold on
[08:54] <BenC> you are saying something wrong, there is no .27, it's -27
[08:54] <Goliath23> ups, sorry
[08:54] <BenC> please make sure you say that right, as it means two different things
[08:55] <Goliath23> david@sun:~$ dpkg --get-selections | grep 2.6.15-27
[08:55] <Goliath23> linux-image-2.6.15-27-k7                        install
[08:56] <BenC> you don't have the lrm package installed
[08:56] <Goliath23> lrm?
[08:56] <BenC> sudo apt-get install linux-k7
[08:56] <BenC> linux-restricted-modules
[08:56] <Goliath23> I just did that!
[08:56] <BenC> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-k7
[08:56] <Goliath23> david@sun:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-k7
[08:56] <Goliath23> Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
[08:56] <Goliath23> Abhngigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig
[08:56] <Goliath23> linux-k7 ist schon die neueste Version.
[08:56] <Goliath23> 0 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 0 nicht aktualisiert.
[08:56] <Goliath23> david@sun:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-k7
[08:56] <Goliath23> Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
[08:56] <Goliath23> Abhngigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig
[08:56] <Goliath23> linux-restricted-modules-k7 ist schon die neueste Version.
[08:57] <Goliath23> same there...
[08:57] <Goliath23> sorry about my german locales :)
[08:57] <Goliath23> david@sun:~$ dpkg --get-selections | grep 2.6.15-
[08:57] <Goliath23> linux-image-2.6.15-23-k7                        purge
[08:57] <Goliath23> linux-image-2.6.15-26-k7                        install
[08:57] <Goliath23> linux-image-2.6.15-27-k7                        install
[08:57] <Goliath23> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-k7           purge
[08:57] <Goliath23> david@sun:~$
[08:58] <Goliath23> I dont know what the purge means !?
[09:00] <BenC> purge means you uninstalled it
[09:00] <BenC> something is broken on your system
[09:00] <Goliath23> how do I repair it? :)
[09:00] <BenC> not something in the kernel/lrm, but something you did :)
[09:00] <BenC> sudo dpkg -P linux-restricted-modules-k7
[09:00] <BenC> sudo dpkg -P linux-k7
[09:01] <BenC> sudo apt-get install linux-k7 linux-restricted-modules-k7
[09:01] <BenC> try that
[09:02] <Goliath23> it says that it removed it and them I reinstalled them. but the output of get-selections is the same..
[09:02] <Goliath23> damnit
[09:03] <Goliath23> is there something like an apt-get --fix-all-strange-things ??
[09:04] <BenC> what packages did apt install?
[09:04] <Goliath23> Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert:
[09:04] <Goliath23>   linux-k7 linux-restricted-modules-k7
[09:04] <BenC> dpkg -s linux-restricted-modules-k7
[09:04] <BenC> paste that in privmsg (not in this channel)
[09:06] <BenC> Goliath23: grep -v '^#' /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:06] <BenC> paste that in privmsg too
[09:25] <Goliath23> BenC: thanks a lot, you made my day! everything is up to normal now... man. those sources.list floating around in the net are dangerous
[09:26] <BenC> hehe
[09:55] <ph8`> zul: ping?
[09:58] <zul> ph8`: whats up?
[09:58] <tonfa> any doc about how the initrd is created and special changes in the ubuntu-kernel ?
[10:05] <crimsun> see mkinitramfs(8)
[10:07] <zul> right im off..
[10:07] <tonfa> crimsun: thanks
[10:21] <ph8`> zul: Have you had any feedback about the jmicron patch yet by any chance?
[10:22] <ph8`> There's one guy reporting it doesn't fix the cd-rom detection issue at the moment, i'm just giving it a go myself
[10:23] <ph8`> + if it doesn't work is there anything i can do to help you diagnose?
[12:03] <zul> BenC: ping
[12:04] <zul> about the jmicron drivers i believe there is patch in 2.6.18-rc4-mm for the jmicron drivers but it creates a drivers/ata directory
[12:07] <svu_tv> will mac-on-linux  be supported on eft or not?