=== gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === johanbr [n=j@jupiter.physics.ubc.ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [12:42] BenC: ABI bumps in linux-meta work a lot better if you remember to edit debian/rules. :P === lfittl [n=lfittl@85-125-229-117.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:16] infinity: oops, guess I need to make a damn checklist [01:17] BenC: No big deal. Uploaded to fix it already. [01:19] BenC: I just enjoy a good public shaming. :) [01:20] infinity: is that listed in your resume under "Extracuricular activity"? :) [01:20] Should be. :) === _human_blip_ [n=mike@220.157.65.29] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === johanbr [n=j@128.189.238.53] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:50] ooh...i get alot of those === sevrin [n=sevrin@202.75.186.154] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === fractalmind [n=miles@c-24-18-178-158.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Keybuk [n=scott@quest.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:55] BenC: I've just stuck a fix #53910 === dilinger [n=dilinger@c-24-128-243-228.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:18] mjg59: done [04:18] did it in dapper too [04:18] Thanks [04:18] thank you === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["Leaving"] === kinema [n=adam@c-71-236-182-199.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === Bryce [n=none@nj-71-53-31-202.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:05] Anyone around? === Bryce [n=none@nj-71-53-31-202.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === Bryce [n=none@nj-71-53-31-202.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Bryce [n=none@nj-71-53-31-202.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === dilinger [n=dilinger@c-24-128-243-228.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === bernard_ [i=cats@dsl-202-72-159-76.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === fractalmind [n=miles@c-24-18-178-158.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === fractalmind [n=miles@c-24-18-178-158.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === johanbr [n=j@d154-20-236-61.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:37] BenC: i got all our gfs2 patches upstream modulo the 2 required to run on .17. i will have something to push to you for when you wake up [07:39] He's awake. :) === AnAnt [n=anant@62.139.225.217] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:42] ping BenC [07:45] BenC: does Knot-3 include the TI MMC driver ? [07:58] infinity: but i am not ready to push yet :) === fractalmind [n=miles@c-24-18-178-158.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === fractalmind [n=miles@c-24-18-178-158.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === johanbr [n=j@d154-20-236-61.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ant1 [n=ant1@81.10.9.182] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [10:40] ping BenC === ant1 is now known as AnAnt [10:42] BenC: I just upgraded the kernel [10:43] BenC: my laptop (it has a TI card reader) did detect that something got in the card slot at last [10:43] BenC: but it did not create a suitable device for it in /dev/ (it was an MMC btw) === fractalmind [n=miles@c-24-18-178-158.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === tonfa [n=tonfa@footwar.residence.ens-lyon.fr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [11:11] gug === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.117.dynamic.phpg.net] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["mv] === fractalmind [n=miles@c-24-18-178-158.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [11:28] I was usually using gentoo and testing -mm kernel, now I have ubuntu on my work laptop and I'd like to continue testing -mm [11:29] is there a preferred way to do that ? [11:29] (and tell if that is offtopic) === lfittl [n=lfittl@194.50.115.210] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-093-197.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === fractalmind [n=miles@c-24-18-178-158.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === fractalmind [n=miles@c-24-18-178-158.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === fractalmind [n=miles@c-24-18-178-158.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lfittl [n=lfittl@193.170.41.114] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pina [n=inv@unaffiliated/pina] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:31] messing with drivers will have one learning how to mess w/ the kernel build system pretty sharpish [01:31] note to self === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === AnAnt [n=anant@81.10.9.182] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:11] ping BenC [02:17] AnAnt: Load tifm_sd [02:17] mjg59: ok [02:20] suse it's the only one which works with kerberos/ldap out of the box? [02:20] doesnt ubuntu? [02:24] btw, the splash doesn't work here [02:24] it did work from the Knot-3 Live CD [02:25] what are your bootargs cat /proc/cmdline ? [02:26] well, I am using dapper now, shall I read the args from the grub file ? === pschulz01 [n=paul@202.174.42.5] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:27] makx: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-8-386 root=/dev/hda5 ro quiet splash vga=0x314 [02:28] makx any hints on what i asked [02:29] pina ldap is not on topic here, but it works nicely here (although using Debian) [02:30] weird [02:31] makx: ? [02:32] makx: ok, I'll reboot in Edgy now [02:32] later === AnAnt [n=anant@81.10.9.182] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] [02:32] thanks makx [02:34] makx out of the box right? === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:34] tried with ubuntu does not work quite that well [02:34] oh wel [02:35] always thought only suse had it working out of the box === AnAnt [n=ant1@81.10.9.182] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:37] makx: root=/dev/hda5 ro quiet splash vga=0x314 [02:38] makx: so what you think the problem is ? [02:38] makx: I get an error that there is no theme for 640x480 [02:38] AnAnt: It's a known bug that edgy's usplash doesn't currently work with vga= [02:39] infinity: I tried without vga= too [02:39] infinity: didn't work also [02:39] Well, it works, but you won't get any consoles afterwards [02:39] The error is due to the artwork not being complete [02:39] I can try again without vga= [02:40] ok, I just unpacked the initrd image [02:40] It won't make any difference [02:41] I found this in usplash.conf: [02:41] xres=640 [02:41] yres=480 [02:41] can that be the problem ? [02:41] 13:39 < mjg59> The error is due to the artwork not being complete [02:41] infinity the debian bts has a patch for the fb handling [02:41] had no time yet to polish and integrate [02:42] -> http://bugs.debian.org/386441 [02:43] mjg59: I don't understand, it did work from the Knot-3 live CD [02:44] mjg59: yet it won't work from the installed version [02:44] makx: btw, the MMC worked, thanks [02:44] pina : no idea what you mean by out of the box [02:45] makx: is it a bug that tifm_sd doesn't automatically load [02:45] AnAnt: never heard about tifm_sd and i'm really only a guest here [02:46] huh ? [02:46] who told me about tifm_sd [02:46] mjg59: was it you ? [02:46] AnAnt: Yes [02:46] mjg59: is it a bug that tifm_sd doesn't automatically load [02:46] hey mjg59 [02:46] AnAnt: Yes [02:46] mjg59: ok, thanks [02:46] mjg59: ok back to the usplash thing [02:47] mjg59: I don't understand why it works from the Knot-3 Live CD, yet not working from the installed Edgy [02:47] 13:41 < mjg59> 13:39 < mjg59> The error is due to the artwork not being complete [02:47] mjg59: well I seen that [02:47] And that's why it fails [02:48] mjg59: even on the same machine ? [02:48] There's no 640x480 artwork. [02:48] Yes. [02:48] mjg59: aha, so are there artwork for different resolution ? [02:48] It would look dreadful otherwise [02:49] ok [02:50] thanks [02:55] btw the linux console has a wierd font after I upgraded [02:55] is that kernel related or what ? [02:55] no [02:56] what then ? [02:56] i think its usplash related [02:56] zul: again ! [02:56] so usplash will fix the splash & the font ? [02:57] probably [02:57] k , cool === kylem [n=kyle@cabal.ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === fractalmind [n=miles@c-24-18-178-158.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:21] ooh when will edgy be 2.6.18 ;) [05:23] zul grab d-kernel, but they are vastly mainline :-P -> http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel/ [05:23] makx: it was a joke === dilinger [n=dilinger@1cc-dhcp-89.media.mit.edu] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:39] is there a list of patch applied to the ubuntu-kernel somewhere ? [05:39] (that are not in mainline) [05:40] yes in git [05:41] any git magic to find it ? because i suppose some patch are just backports, other are only in ubuntu's kernel [05:41] what are you looking for? [05:43] if running an -mm kernel instead of the ubuntu one is "safe" [05:43] -mm != "safe" [05:43] if i will lose some features or not [05:43] makx: i know i'm running on them since a few years [05:44] and i want to continue that while using ubuntu [05:44] you can contribute some patches easily while running -mm [05:44] i like that === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:02] mjg59: ping [06:04] BenC: Hi [06:04] mjg59: Would it make sense to backport 2.6.18 libata+drivers to our kernel? [06:05] main reason I'm asking is because there's some core2duo ich8 support in 2.6.18 and it's non-trivial backporting this [06:05] BenC: Urgh. [06:05] I don't see why not, but it's likely you'll have to suck in scsi as well [06:06] sounds like a cascading effect...ata->scsi->usb+firewire [06:06] hopefully I'll get my core2duo laptop soon enough to test all this junk [06:08] hehe, will end up pulling the whole 2.6.18 then ;-) === Nafallo sits and select parts to upgrade his server ;-) [06:09] BenC: uh...kernel-package from unstable you need to create a .config before doing anything [06:11] BenC: is that the libata part where you have to change your fstab ? [06:11] because ide is seen as sd* [06:15] BenC: the new kernel-package from debian unstable works with 2.6.18 maybe we should consider resyncing one more time [06:16] tonfa: no [06:16] zul: I'm not sure I'll have time to look at it, so you may want to look at what bits need to be synced [06:16] sure.. [06:19] mjg59: nm, I think I got all the ich8 bits (hopefully) === fractalmind [n=miles@c-24-18-178-158.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === BenC starts up 10 kernel builds, and goes to smoke === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:05] :-P [07:14] BenC; 'sup [07:14] BenC; i got some good news and some bad news [07:16] good news: the ACPI stuff in -8 causes my laptop to successfully wake up again [07:16] bad news: the ACPI stuff in -8 causes my laptop to go successfully to sleep only occasionally [07:16] it gets suck at some line about SMP Alternatives: Switching to UP code [07:16] and gets no farther than that === svu_tv [n=svu@83.167.239.56] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === fractalmin1 [n=miles@c-24-18-178-158.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Keybuk [n=scott@quest.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === johanbr [n=j@jupiter.physics.ubc.ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:30] BenC, ping [08:30] svu_tv: pong [08:32] BenC, just a quick question: is there any way I could help debugging the problem with kernel on G5? Are you aware it is not bootable? === svu_tv means livecd Eft [08:33] I'm aware yes, and I have a G5 right here I am going to fix it on by Monday [08:33] BenC, thanks a lot, you are just saving my soul === Goliath23 [n=david@dslb-084-058-008-230.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:38] hi [08:40] is there a known problem with the linux-k7 package and its dependencies concerning the nvidia driver (or linux-restricted-modules in general) linux-k7 depends on the 2.6.15.27 kernel image, but also on the 2.6.15.27 restricted modules package... isn't that a mismatch? because on my system the nvidia module fails to load and modprobe says it can't find it ... insmod works though... [08:43] in other words: what have I done wrong if modprobe fails to find the nvidia module, but the restricted modules package is installed? === Goliath23 [n=david@dslb-084-058-036-047.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mdz [n=mdz@studiocity-motorola-bsr1-70-36-194-85.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:50] update: when I boot the 2.6.15.26 kernel it works and the module is loaded [08:50] thats --- strange! [08:52] Goliath23: make sure you have everything updated and in sync [08:52] you mean sudo apt-get update & upgrade? [08:52] yes, everything is in sync [08:52] Goliath23: and what is out of sync about linux-k7 depending linux-image-2.5.15-27-k7 and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-k7? [08:53] you do have both those packages installed? [08:53] for restricted modules its .23! [08:53] you are probably looking at the meta packages [08:54] dpkg --get-selections | grep 2.6.15-27 [08:54] show me the output for that [08:54] when i install linux-k7, it instales the *.27 image, but that doesn't boot then [08:54] k [08:54] hold on [08:54] you are saying something wrong, there is no .27, it's -27 [08:54] ups, sorry [08:54] please make sure you say that right, as it means two different things [08:55] david@sun:~$ dpkg --get-selections | grep 2.6.15-27 [08:55] linux-image-2.6.15-27-k7 install [08:56] you don't have the lrm package installed [08:56] lrm? [08:56] sudo apt-get install linux-k7 [08:56] linux-restricted-modules [08:56] I just did that! [08:56] sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-k7 [08:56] david@sun:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-k7 [08:56] Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig [08:56] Abhngigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig [08:56] linux-k7 ist schon die neueste Version. [08:56] 0 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 0 nicht aktualisiert. [08:56] david@sun:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-k7 [08:56] Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig [08:56] Abhngigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig [08:56] linux-restricted-modules-k7 ist schon die neueste Version. [08:57] same there... [08:57] sorry about my german locales :) [08:57] david@sun:~$ dpkg --get-selections | grep 2.6.15- [08:57] linux-image-2.6.15-23-k7 purge [08:57] linux-image-2.6.15-26-k7 install [08:57] linux-image-2.6.15-27-k7 install [08:57] linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-k7 purge [08:57] david@sun:~$ [08:58] I dont know what the purge means !? [09:00] purge means you uninstalled it [09:00] something is broken on your system [09:00] how do I repair it? :) [09:00] not something in the kernel/lrm, but something you did :) [09:00] sudo dpkg -P linux-restricted-modules-k7 [09:00] sudo dpkg -P linux-k7 [09:01] sudo apt-get install linux-k7 linux-restricted-modules-k7 [09:01] try that === jwest- [n=jwest@unaffiliated/jwest/x-422957] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [09:02] it says that it removed it and them I reinstalled them. but the output of get-selections is the same.. [09:02] damnit [09:03] is there something like an apt-get --fix-all-strange-things ?? [09:04] what packages did apt install? [09:04] Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert: [09:04] linux-k7 linux-restricted-modules-k7 [09:04] dpkg -s linux-restricted-modules-k7 [09:04] paste that in privmsg (not in this channel) === mdz [n=mdz@studiocity-motorola-bsr1-70-36-194-85.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [09:06] Goliath23: grep -v '^#' /etc/apt/sources.list [09:06] paste that in privmsg too === Goliath23 [n=david@dslb-084-058-083-224.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [09:25] BenC: thanks a lot, you made my day! everything is up to normal now... man. those sources.list floating around in the net are dangerous [09:26] hehe === mdz [n=mdz@studiocity-motorola-bsr1-70-36-194-85.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ph8` [n=ph8@81-179-116-32.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [09:55] zul: ping? [09:58] ph8`: whats up? [09:58] any doc about how the initrd is created and special changes in the ubuntu-kernel ? === fractalmind [n=miles@c-24-18-178-158.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [10:05] see mkinitramfs(8) [10:07] right im off.. [10:07] crimsun: thanks [10:21] zul: Have you had any feedback about the jmicron patch yet by any chance? [10:22] There's one guy reporting it doesn't fix the cd-rom detection issue at the moment, i'm just giving it a go myself [10:23] + if it doesn't work is there anything i can do to help you diagnose? === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === svu_tv [n=svu@83.167.239.56] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [12:03] BenC: ping [12:04] about the jmicron drivers i believe there is patch in 2.6.18-rc4-mm for the jmicron drivers but it creates a drivers/ata directory === Arador [n=dcg@230.pool80-103-6.dynamic.uni2.es] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [12:07] will mac-on-linux be supported on eft or not?