[05:00] <fabbione> hey tmarble 
[05:00] <fabbione> tmarble: you got email
[05:01] <tmarble> fabbione: thanks
[05:02] <fabbione> tmarble: no problem.
[05:02] <fabbione> for that linking issue that Nikolay is having...
[05:02] <fabbione> i did fix it for g++ apps
[05:02] <tmarble> i know you don't care about slowlaris, but I really, really would like a recipie to install both
[05:02] <fabbione> but i can't find the way for C
[05:02] <fabbione> i am sure it's an issue with his environment
[05:02] <tmarble> do we need multi-arch or something like that?
[05:03] <fabbione> what do you mean multi-arch?
[05:03] <tmarble> well -- how can we debug his environment?
[05:03] <fabbione> oh i can reproduce the problem here
[05:03] <tmarble> you know.. the whole 32-bit/64-bit lib co-existance proposal
[05:03] <fabbione> for g++ it was enough to install lib64stdc++ and recompile to obtain the proper link
[05:03] <fabbione> sparc is already multi-arch
[05:03] <fabbione> in that respect
[05:03] <tmarble> cool
[05:03] <fabbione> there is /lib and /lib64
[05:04] <tmarble> right
[05:04] <fabbione> but that same workaround/fix doesn't work for his code snipper
[05:04] <fabbione> snippet
[05:04] <tmarble> so what's the deal -- ld.so doesn't do the right thing?
[05:04] <fabbione> so i need to figure out what i am doing wrong
[05:04] <fabbione> no, it's gcc/binutils not linking properly
[05:04] <fabbione> it's not a runtime issue if that's what you are asking
[05:04] <tmarble> ah, ok
[05:05] <tmarble> hey, maybe we can get doko to look at it :)
[05:05] <fabbione> ldd does the right thing, otherwise you wouldn't be able to pick up v9v/
[05:05] <fabbione> doko doesn't have access to Niagara
[05:05] <fabbione> i need to work on that when i find the time
[05:05] <tmarble> what about the box(es) installed in kensington?
[05:05] <fabbione> it would also be nice if Nikolay could file bugs for the problems he finds
[05:05] <fabbione> i saw one email on ubuntu-devel mailing list
[05:06] <fabbione> they are used by the certification team
[05:06] <fabbione> we have no access to them
[05:06] <fabbione> we as me and doko
[05:06] <tmarble> that's a major drag, man... we *need* you guys to have boxes
[05:06] <tmarble> i mean, we found, we have customers doing our Try and Buy program -- that want to do Ubuntu (not surprising)
[05:06] <fabbione> i just finished to fight to be able to keep mine here..
[05:06] <tmarble> but our staff doesn't, you know, grok the whole thing
[05:06] <fabbione> (with SUN)
[05:07] <fabbione> yeah i know
[05:07] <tmarble> so I'm hoping that between you, doko, and me we can write up some decent documentation -- make everyone happy
[05:07] <tmarble> do we need to ask SABDFL for some hw?
[05:07] <fabbione> i already did
[05:07] <tmarble> and
[05:08] <fabbione> i only need to find a way to share the NIagara better within teams
[05:08] <tmarble> hmmm seems like a launchpad application :)
[05:08] <tmarble> ... machine reservation
[05:08] <fabbione> nah
[05:09] <fabbione> that's not the problem
[05:09] <fabbione> it's how/where they are installed in the datacenter
[05:09] <fabbione> it's a slightly different tech issue
[05:09] <fabbione> i need to address that too... but i am still catching up on 6 weeks of backlog
[05:09] <tmarble> ah
[05:10] <tmarble> i'd beg for more hw, but, you know, it was murder getting the rev2 that i have now
[05:11] <tmarble> FWIW I'll file the bug if Nikolay doesn't want to
[05:11] <fabbione> i am told that doko got access to the NIagara boxes
[05:11] <fabbione> so let's ping doko :)
[05:11] <fabbione> want to join #ubuntu-toolchain?
[05:11] <tmarble> today -- looks like he's doko_
[05:12] <fabbione> yeps