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nixternalg'nite kwwii_12:15
imbrandonomg the guys in my lug are asking how to build oo.o deb's /me hids from them for a while12:15
imbrandonnight kwwii_ 12:15
kwwii_imbrandon: you lazy sushi eating mt dew drinker!12:15
imbrandonkwwii_: hahaha12:15
nixternalthere are only a million oo.o debs flying around the net as it is12:15
nixternalim getting ready to head out for sushi12:15
imbrandonis Riddell  gonna package the pannel image ?12:15
Riddellimbrandon: yes12:15
imbrandonnice !!12:15
nixternali miss real sushi, and not this american crap12:15
kwwii_bis morgen....12:16
imbrandonnixternal: i just had sushi takeout for lunch12:16
nixternali love sushi12:16
nixternalman..sebas and adrian were in greece...another place i really miss...if my x-wife would move there, i would so be there in a heartbeat..she wants to move to spain though12:17
nixternalouzo, you can run a ship from that stuff12:17
nixternaloh well...bbiab ;)12:18
Riddellspain is nice12:19
imbrandonnixternal / Riddell http://pastebin.ca/178014 <-- thats what the lug said just before they pinged me12:19
gnomefreakwhat is the package name for smart?12:19
Riddelldon't need to learn a new alphabet for spain12:19
gnomefreakimbrandon: ty12:19
Riddellgnomefreak: smartpm?12:19
nixternaloh lord imbrandon12:19
nixternali feel for you12:19
imbrandongotta love it hehe12:19
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Riddellimbrandon: sounds like that lug needs some of your loving12:20
nixternali should join it and tell them at imbrandon can do it for you ;)12:20
nixternalhe is online, and hiding from you all ;)12:20
gnomefreaki figured apt-cache search smart would have given me that but it doesnt :(12:20
sebasnixternal: Nevermind, it really sucked ;-)12:20
imbrandonnixternal: someone already did, thats why they pinged me12:20
nixternalno way sebas, greece owns!12:20
imbrandonRiddell: for sure heheh i just hate oo.o ;)12:20
nixternaloo.o is good12:20
imbrandongood for windows, koffice ownz on linux ;)12:21
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nixternalkoffice is nice, but our fellow windows/office users don't think so12:21
imbrandonohhh speaking of koffice Riddell i tried on my ppc too i dont think its my setup its something i'm not doing right or something12:21
Riddellimbrandon: koffice doesn't install on ppc just now12:22
imbrandonheh that would explain it12:22
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imbrandonkinda broke but insatlls and runs ;)12:23
gnomefreakimbrandon: how did *86 build? before i try it12:24
imbrandongnomefreak: i havent gotten very far, i was having autoconf issues before lunch and i havent resumed since12:24
Riddellok, uploaded kicker thing, I'm off to bed12:26
imbrandonsleep well Riddell 12:26
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andrunkoRiddell: yep, for a few minutes12:48
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andrunkoRiddell: some problem?12:49
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jdongooh, look at that... new kernel AND new freebsd beta release....01:44
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=== ryanakca curses himself for having run a fresh install without having MD5SUM'd his backups first
=== ryanakca will be having fun tommorow night... it took me a week to get postfix + courier + spamassassin working together...
ryanakcaI just hope I can figure out how it was setup...03:40
ryanakcaI complain too much03:40
jdongryanakca: no you don't ... I do03:41
jdongryanakca: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuKDEMedia03:41
jdongjoin me in my complaints03:41
jdongunder Feedback03:41
ryanakcaKonqueror STILL doesn't have GMail support...03:42
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ryanakcaif it weren't for that fact, I'd use it as my web brower... but untill then.... FF it is :)03:42
jdongI know03:42
ryanakcaoooh... still don't have that unmounting dialog yet :S03:43
ryanakcaand then theres the problem that there's not dialog in konversation... when you open a logfile... it looks as if konversation is frozen/hanging... but it's opening the logfile... and that can take up to 30 seconds...03:44
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abattoirryanakca: changing konq.'s id doesnt help?(for gmail)03:47
imbrandonryanakca: gmail works fine in my konqi, and the konversaiotn thing is knows to upstream ( as you are the one that pointed it out ) and is being fixed in 1.0.1 ( not for edgy )03:47
imbrandonjdong , complaining isnt the correct term , its not constructive03:47
ryanakcapositive criticism :D03:48
jdongimbrandon: I do try to be constructive in my criticism03:48
imbrandon( and i did note to have that section ABOVE the patches section ;P )03:48
jdongimbrandon: but I do have a particular passion with losing data to not syncing03:48
jdongimbrandon: and no, you never told me that03:48
imbrandonjdong: i dident say you wernt, i was talking about your use of the word "join me in complaining"03:48
ryanakcajdong: at least I still have my ~/, /usr/local and /var archives :S03:49
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imbrandonjdong: sure i did when i told you "we" police the that wiki page, dont make me dig up the log ;)03:49
imbrandongnight ryanakca  ;)03:49
jdongimbrandon: you told me that you police it03:49
jdongbut you NEVER told me where to put the feedback section03:49
ubotuChannel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs03:49
ryanakcaimbrandon: before I forget... have a link to making a build farm thingy?03:49
imbrandonryanakca: not really, i did it all from bits and pieces here and there03:50
imbrandonalot of learning and time03:50
imbrandonand questions and google03:50
ryanakcaimbrandon: mind writing a wiki :P03:50
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imbrandonhahah maybe after the dev summit i'll have time ;)03:50
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bddebianWhat are the dates for the Mt. View thing?03:51
jdongimbrandon: beagle definitely says that you need to cut down on hallucinogen usage :)03:52
imbrandonjdong: look at the time 04:11 on page http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/kubuntu-devel-2006-09-18.html03:52
imbrandonbddebian: nov 05 to nov 1003:53
jdongimbrandon: add a feedback section at the bottom just above the patches section i would say03:53
jdongsee, the problem with that, is, don't say at the bottom first03:53
jdongmy attention span is short :)03:53
bddebiandamnit, somehow I knew it would be at the beginning of November :'-(03:53
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imbrandoni know ;)03:53
imbrandonjdong: i told you dont make me dig the logs out , i knew i did ;)03:54
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imbrandonbddebian: that bad ?03:54
bddebianimbrandon: Means I can't go :'-(03:55
imbrandonand i was looking forward to bugging you irl ;)03:55
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bddebianI was REALLy hoping to go this time.  Especially since it was in the US03:56
imbrandonbddebian: what is it keeping you from it ?03:57
bddebianWe are going live with Phase II of our ERP on either Nov 1 or Nov 7 and I know they won't let me take days off :-(03:57
imbrandonouch, quit and work for canonical ;)03:58
bddebianGet me a job :-)03:58
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imbrandon( as in for me )03:59
imbrandonbddebian: if i could i would bro , you know it ;)03:59
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bddebianI wouldn't be of much use to Canonical.  I'm tenatious but stupid04:03
imbrandonyou tought me to package ;)04:03
bddebianYeah right :-)04:04
imbrandonhrm diff the old file is first right ?04:07
imbrandoni cant never rember04:07
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lnxkdewho is lilo?04:38
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lnxkdethe boot loader?04:38
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HobbseeRiddell: poke05:31
jdongubshmehan uba hugana05:33
imbrandonHobbsee: he said he was heading to sleepy by05:39
imbrandonalthough that was ~5 hours ago hehe05:40
imbrandonhe might wake soonish ;)05:40
imbrandonnixternal: ping05:41
Hobbseeimbrandon: yeah, thought he might have05:43
imbrandonso hows it goin ...05:44
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imbrandonand uploaded another amarok fix05:44
imbrandonbefore the freeze05:45
imbrandonHobbsee: you messed with writely ? man it works05:45
Hobbseeimbrandon: writely?  nope05:45
imbrandonwell, i'm very surprised with it , its good enough for my limited word processing05:45
imbrandonwritely is googles online word processor , and you can publish and invite others to edit too05:46
imbrandonor just keep them private etc05:46
imbrandonvery nice, works as well as oo.o or koffice afaik05:46
Hobbseenice :)05:47
imbrandonso now they have a word processor and a spead sheet apps online05:47
imbrandonthats enough for me not to need an office suite , and i'm sure many others like me that only rarely use it05:47
imbrandonhell even people that use it alot05:47
imbrandonkinda nice being able to edit it from anywhere and save in TONS of formats05:48
imbrandonetc etc etc05:48
Hobbseenice :)05:48
imbrandonhrm i might blog about it05:48
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imbrandondo you have a gmail account ?05:48
Hobbseeof course :P05:52
Hobbseewhere do you think my @u.c and @k.o point to?05:52
imbrandonahh then you already have an account, play with it a minute, you'll like it i bet05:52
imbrandonyou can even email-in documents etc, its very slick, i think i'm gonna start using it alot more05:53
imbrandoni use all the other google services , hell why not ;)05:54
imbrandoni'm sure it will be supported by google ad's at some point but atm theres not even ads05:55
imbrandoneven so googe ad's arent that bad05:55
imbrandonand it says they dont "officialy" support linux but seems to work great05:57
imbrandoni havent found anything that dosent work yet05:57
Hobbseeyay :)05:58
robotgeekmac on linux finally works well, execept for the keyboard maps. yay!06:04
imbrandonrobotgeek: heh yea i need to update it with the latest bootx though so it will boot 10.406:05
imbrandonwithout the extra download06:05
robotgeeki did not require the latest bootx, it worked fine without it too06:05
imbrandon10.4 ?06:05
imbrandon10.3.9 and below dont need it06:06
robotgeeki have tiger06:06
imbrandontiger == 10.406:06
Hobbseehey robotgeek 06:06
imbrandonhum , thats strange06:06
imbrandonyou using the one from our repos ?06:06
robotgeekhey Hobbsee 06:07
robotgeekyes, directly from reppos06:07
imbrandonwow , ok cool06:07
robotgeeki can now kill time on youtube directly from linux, yay06:08
robotgeekhow is it going Hobbsee ?06:08
Hobbseei'm okay :)06:08
Hobbseeplotting evil things as usual06:08
robotgeekworld domination?06:08
Hobbseeof course06:10
Hobbseestarting with kubuntu06:10
robotgeekhmm, i gotta learn c++ now, yay (maybe)06:11
Hobbseedont remind me06:13
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HobbseeTonio_: https://launchpad.net/bugs/5950406:26
UbugtuMalone bug 59504 in kdebase "Language packs broken in kde applications menus" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  06:26
Hobbseeprobably worth looking at06:26
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Hobbseeimbrandon: gone to bed yet?06:54
nixternalimbrandon: pong?06:56
nixternalhiya Hobbsee!06:57
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seaLnesee those of you going to akademy there08:06
=== seaLne -> dublin
nixternali will be in canada, is that close?08:21
nixternali would love to be in dublin this time of year08:21
nixternalmmm..the guiness is flowin' thick08:21
_Sime_Tonio_: whooohooo! The media stuff in the packages works! thanks08:25
_Sime_Riddell: Should lost+found be in /.hidden?08:27
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=== Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel ! | Knot 3 Released | TODO: Gamin fixes at: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates | Merges at: http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | Buglist at https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuEdgyKnownProblems | We will miss you, lilo...
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=== Hobbsee wonders why we ship such terrible defaults for konsole
faboRiddell: i have added dimap patch to kdepim09:27
faboRiddell: http://fboudra.free.fr/ubuntu/kdepim_4:3.5.4-0ubuntu5/09:27
faboHobbsee: i asked a sync for a package, was synced. New debian package uploaded, i asked another sync or could i re-open same LP bug + comments ... ?09:30
Hobbseefabo: you could.  what was the package?09:30
faboclucene/strigi suite09:31
=== Hobbsee would just use the request-sync script again :P
Hobbseeeither works09:31
fabook nice09:31
=== Hobbsee considers merging azureus
faboHobbsee: about synaptic bug, a asked a backport to resolve definitely 340609:32
Hobbseei couldnt even get it to work on edgy09:33
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faboi'll take a look09:33
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faboHobbsee: could you confirm 54939 and 61605 please :)09:50
Hobbseebug 5493909:50
UbugtuMalone bug 54939 in Ubuntu "Edgy MoM]  Please sync libclucene0 and libclucene-dev from sid" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5493909:50
Hobbseebug 6160509:50
UbugtuMalone bug 61605 in strigi "Please sync strigi and strigiapplet" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6160509:50
Hobbseefabo: the unstable version builds and installs fine in edgy?09:51
faboHobbsee: yes09:52
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faboHobbsee: same for 60030 :)10:07
Hobbseebug 6003010:07
UbugtuMalone bug 60030 in icecc "icecc sync with the last debian version" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6003010:07
Hobbseefabo: that also builds and installs okay?10:09
faboHobbsee: Riddell already built it, so yes.10:10
fabothis is SYNC day ;)10:10
fabobah hobbsee come back :)10:27
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fabohello Tonio_ 11:03
Tonio_hey fabo11:06
Tonio_did someone revu transkode ?11:06
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Tonio__Sime_: yeah everything works except /media/cdrom0 is still empty here...11:10
Tonio__Sime_: that the only problem I can find11:10
Tonio__Sime_: appart from that, GREAT work11:15
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faboTonio_: unfortuntely, i wasn't able to upload it to revu11:18
Tonio_hi el11:18
Tonio_fabo: ah ?11:18
Tonio_what is the issue ?11:18
Tonio_fabo: gimme the source package and I'll upload for you11:18
Tonio_and I will revu of course11:19
elmoin Tonio_  :)11:19
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Tonio_fabo: any place I can download your package ?11:21
faboTonio_: http://fboudra.free.fr/ubuntu/transkode_0.6b2-0ubuntu1/11:31
fabosorry i'm on the phone in the same me11:31
Riddell_Sime_: why shouldn't lost+found be in .hidden?11:32
Tonio_fabo: great, I'm checking and uploading11:32
Tonio_fabo: cool packaging, now building :)11:34
Tonio_hi Riddell11:34
Riddellbonjour Tonio_ 11:34
fabocrimsun: thanks for report update ;) why not confirm in the same time11:35
Tonio_hum, the new windeco is better than the previous one... looks somehow more professionnal11:35
Tonio_Riddell: just though about edgy+1, I'll probably spend time on samba integration with kde...11:36
fabobouh hobbsee hides ;) someone could confirm 61609 and 61611 please11:36
Tonio_Riddell: it is not very convenient to get the thigs working currently11:36
Tonio_things can be done I think11:36
Tonio_fabo: what happens with your revu account ?11:37
faboTonio_: what you mean there's problem ?11:38
faboTonio_: someone already uploads transkode 0.5b, maybe it is the problem11:39
Tonio_fabo: I don't think so, the upload should have been overwritten11:39
Tonio_fabo: I'll try to upload if the build is nice11:39
RiddellTonio_: great idea11:39
fabounfortunately with dput, we didn't received any error11:40
Tonio_Riddell: well I had to play with samba recently and I found everything needs to be configured...11:40
Tonio_Riddell: probably a spec on the UDS will be a good starting point11:40
Tonio_Riddell: I just hope I'll be sponsored ;)11:40
Tonio_I'm still waiting11:40
faboRiddell: you see my ping about kdepim ?11:40
Tonio_fabo: may I just had 1 patch for rosetta ?11:42
faboin case you missed ;) http://fboudra.free.fr/ubuntu/kdepim_4:3.5.4-0ubuntu5/11:42
Tonio_fabo: it's missing ;)11:42
fabotime to play football :) then i need to prepare my travel to akademy ;)11:43
Tonio_fabo: wow you did all those patches ? :) 11:43
Tonio_I'm impressed :)11:43
fabosee you later :)=11:43
Tonio_fabo: ++11:43
Riddellfabo: no, what's changed?11:47
Riddellfabo: where is that patch from?  http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104956 ?11:58
UbugtuKDE bug 104956 in disconnected IMAP "dimap: sudden mail loss" [Critical,New]  11:58
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_Sime_Riddell: my point was that lost_found probably should be in .hidden, but it isn't now (for me).12:20
Riddell_Sime_: ah, I'll add it then 12:20
Tonio_imbrandon: ping ?12:27
Tonio__Sime_: hey :)12:27
_Sime_I need to add a couple of known issues to the wiki.12:28
Tonio__Sime_: the point is the work looks very usable now ;)12:30
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Tonio_still has a few issues indeed12:30
_Sime_like if you log out and then in again, you won't see any removable disks. (They get unmount at logout, but not automatically mounted again during login).12:34
_Sime_it would also be nice if we could use the disk label in more places, like what media:/ does for the names of things.12:34
_Sime_instead of "cdrewriter", the label "cdrewriter (Quake 4)" might be better in kicker and on the desktop.12:35
Jucato__Sime_: I think other ext3 partitions are also unmounted at logout? not sure if it was fixed in knot 312:36
Riddell_Sime_: are you coming to akademy?12:36
_Sime_Riddell: nope, I will be at home sulking during akademy. :-/12:38
_Sime_I don't have the vacation time over for that. Well not this year anyway.12:38
_Sime_Jucato_: I don't know if taht is true. I thought that the auto-unmounting stuff was only for pmounted  media.12:39
_Sime_Jucato_: or stuff taht was mounted as "user".12:40
Jucato__Sime_: I haven't changed the default fstab that was installed in knot 212:40
_Sime_Jucato_: actually I would really like to know what bit actually does the unmounting at logout.12:40
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Jucato_the strange thing is that my FAT32 and NTFS partitions weren't unmounted when I logged back in12:41
_Sime_Jucato_: yes, but were those partitions mounted using the "pmount" command or via KDE?12:44
_Sime_Jucato_: and mounted with the "user" ooption?12:44
Jucato__Sime_: I didn't manually mount them. I didn't change anything in fstab ever since I installed Knot 212:45
_Sime_Jucato_: I dunno what is going on there.12:55
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kwwii_so, updated kernel, still no sound01:22
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kwwiiyippee! I got my sound working on my own :p02:08
Riddellkwwii: cool, how did you do that?02:09
mornfallunmute? *hides*02:10
mornfalli know i'm a terrible person02:10
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kwwiiRiddell: just added the kernel module :-)02:13
kwwiimornfall: I am an artist, but not that stupid :p02:13
mornfall*blink* i know dude, don't take me too seriously :)02:14
kwwiisnd_powermac or whatever reason was not being loaded on my machine02:14
kwwiimornfall: you? I *never* take you seriously :-)02:14
andrunkoRiddell: hi, any news about the package?02:15
Riddellandrunko: I e-mailed you02:15
Riddellwell, I guessed the address :)02:15
Riddellandrunko: but the binary packages should be renamed to match the SO name02:15
Riddellso it should be libqttelepathy0 and libqttelepathy-dev02:15
andrunkohmm i see02:16
andrunkoRiddell: andrunko@gmail.com? i didn't receive anything, let me check the spams :D02:17
andrunkoRiddell: do you think it's ok to rename the binaries and keep the package name telepathy-qt or should i rename the package name also02:18
Riddellandrunko: yes that's fine02:20
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andrunkoRiddell: the so name is libQtTelepathy so the package should be libQtTelepathy0 and libQtTelepathy-dev?02:27
andrunkoRiddell: W: libqttelepathy0: package-name-doesnt-match-sonames libQtTelepathy002:27
zorglu_q. konqueror 3.5.2, as shipped in the 6.06.1 cd, doesnt contains the menu "Setting -> Configure Spell Checker" and have the spell checker on by default, how can i disable it ? is the menu somewhere else ?02:27
Riddellandrunko: can't have capital letters in a package name, just do it lower case02:28
Riddellzorglu_: in system setttings?02:28
zorglu_Riddell: system setting -> kde components -> spell checker  but it has nothing checked or anything02:29
Riddellzorglu_: I don't know how to turn off konqueror's auto spell check in textareas, that's somewhere else02:30
zorglu_from #kde people, it is supposed to be in  "Setting -> Configure Spell Checker" but the menu is not in the version shipped by kubuntu02:31
zorglu_ok i will go on to look, but this make it hard/painfull to use stuff like wikipedia :)02:32
Jucato_zorglu_: try KControl02:32
RiddellConfigure Spell Checker just brings up the kcontrol module02:33
Jucato_KControl > KDE Components > Spell Checker02:33
zorglu_i got this page and nothing is checked on it02:33
zorglu_nor do i see any option to disable it02:34
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fabo< Riddell> fabo: no, what's changed?02:36
faboRiddell: i extracted the patch applied to the branch by till adam02:37
Tonio_fabo: I uploaded transkode to revu and advocated it.... need to find one more reviewer02:37
andrunkoRiddell: updated http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~telepathy/telepathy-qt/ubuntu. should be ok now02:39
faboRiddell: second Tonio_ please :)02:39
Riddellfabo: ok, cool02:40
Riddellandrunko: nothing has changed in that archive02:40
faboTonio_: have you a clue why i wasn't able to upload to revu ?02:41
Tonio_fabo: yes, a broken previous upload was in the queue...02:42
Tonio_fabo: needed revu admin to purge the upload which raphink did02:42
Riddellfabo: is this patch also in debian?  presumbaly not since debian will do a straight branch pull02:42
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faboRiddell: it is included in the branch pull02:46
Riddellfabo: yep, I'll rename the patch to be kubuntu_xx then02:47
Riddellfabo: uploading02:47
faboTonio_: ok02:48
faboRiddell: thks02:48
Riddellfabo: uploaded, many thanks02:48
fabosomeone could confirm 61609 and 61611 please :)02:49
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Hobbseehey Jucato_ 02:50
Riddellfabo: done, you should attach the debian changelog to 6161102:52
Riddelland subscribe ubuntu-archive of course02:52
Hobbseehey Riddell 02:53
Riddellmorning Hobbsee 02:53
HobbseeRiddell: i was going to bug you about adding kde-guidance-powermanager as a dep of kubuntu-desktop02:53
RiddellHobbsee: done02:53
Hobbseeor at least as a recommends02:53
Hobbseeoh cool :)02:53
Hobbseeit hadnt as of this afternoon :)02:53
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kwwiiHobbsee: seen the new artwork?02:55
Hobbseekwwii: nope02:55
Hobbseekwwii: what's it look like?02:55
Jucato_new artwork???02:55
Jucato_just when I was getting used to the bluish-purple one... @_@02:56
kwwiihehe, it is still blue-purple02:56
kwwiibut now it is shiny blue-purple02:56
Jucato_is it now available if I update?02:56
kwwiiI think so02:56
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Hobbseekwwii: ooh, which bits?02:58
Hobbseekwwii: usplash, or what?02:58
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kwwiiHobbsee: the wallpaper is tweaked and the window deco's are pretty much new02:59
Hobbseekwwii: nice - so i should grab the source for the windeco, i guess03:00
Hobbseekwwii: it's got a new name so i can import?03:00
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kwwiiHobbsee: it is the kubuntu theme in kwincystal03:01
Riddellfabo: do you have the sources to icemon?03:02
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faboRiddell: http://fboudra.free.fr/debian/icecc-monitor_1.1-1/03:04
Riddellperfect, thanks03:04
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faboRiddell: i have 2 special case -> kaffeine and kmplayer, their naming scheme diverge from Debian03:08
Hobbseekwwii: got a screenshot, by any chance?03:08
Jucato_oooh shiny...03:08
faboRiddell: keep ubuntu naming and update ? or prepare a transition to Debian naming03:09
Jucato_yay! at last a consistent login-ksplash screen :)03:09
Tonio_Jucato_: yes, kwwii work kickass, really :)03:11
Hobbseeor Jucato_, Tonio_ ?03:11
Hobbseeoh screw it03:11
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Jucato_you don't have to convince me of that :)03:11
Tonio_Hobbsee: you didn't see it ?03:11
kwwiione second, screen coming03:11
Tonio_arf, too slow on the keyboard....03:11
Jucato_she used a different windeco03:11
Jucato_is the wallpaper different, too?03:12
Riddellfabo: what's diverged?03:12
Jucato_looks slightly the same...03:12
andrunkoRiddell: strange, i just checked and it's there03:12
andrunkorevision 1003:12
Jucato_the Kubuntu buttons for the window deco looks very different... very nice03:14
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Jucato_i definitely like this new window deco better :)03:15
Jucato_Hobbsee: are you seeing it now?03:15
Riddellandrunko: yep, got it now03:15
faboRiddell: kaffeine source gives kaffeine and kaffeine-dbg package under Debian, kaffeine and kaffeine-xine under ubuntu03:16
Hobbseekwwii: wow :)03:16
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HobbseeJucato_: i was03:16
HobbseeJucato_: i'm back to normal now03:16
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HobbseeJucato_: i used the "very bad hack, dont do this" way of getting a new profile/03:16
Hobbseeaka sudo -i && startx03:16
Hobbseewhich did what i wanted, but still.03:17
Jucato_baaad kangaroo :P03:17
Riddellfabo: that's from when we were using the gstreamer kaffeine part by default.  we can merge it with debian but not until after edgy is out03:18
faboRiddell: ok03:18
HawkwindJucato_: What's the new window deco look like ?  Not sure I'm seeing it03:18
Riddellfabo: and kmplayer is split so we can install only the kpart plugin03:18
Jucato_it looks pretty, and the new buttons are better IMHO03:19
fabofabo: under debian it is called kmplayer-plugin03:19
Hobbseehmmm...i'm not sure if i saw the new buttons03:19
HobbseeJucato_: screenshot?03:19
Jucato_ok hold on :)03:19
HawkwindJucato_: This in an update today possibly ?03:19
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Jucato_yes just a few minutes ago, I think03:19
Riddellandrunko: looks great, I'll upLoad03:20
andrunkoRiddell: nice :), tnx03:20
HawkwindJucato_: Ah ok.  I'm updating the vmware edgy install now03:20
faboRiddell: anyway it will be nice to have these packages updated03:20
HawkwindAnyone know when the fixed flashplugin-nonfree package will be released ?03:21
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faboRiddell: jpatrick could do it ?03:21
HobbseeHawkwind: i believe that's up to the backporters03:21
Jucato_Hawkwind: ask jdong, it's his fault anyway :P03:21
HawkwindOhhhh, bad jdong, no cookie for j00!03:22
Riddellfabo: updated in which way03:22
Jucato_ugh! why is my internet connection suddenly so sloooow...03:22
HawkwindJucato_: The tubes are full :)03:22
Jucato_it's seriously crawling...03:23
Hobbseekwwii: errr....either i havent put this in right, or the background window looks a little weird - the non-purple one.03:23
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faboRiddell: keep ubuntu naming, update kaffeine to 0.8.2 and kmplayer to 0.9.3. We'll see the merge for edgy+103:23
HawkwindIs there a decided name for the release after Edgy yet, or when does that get decided ?03:24
Riddellfabo: sounds good, you'd need to do an upstream version freeze exception request, and no new features will be allowed03:24
Jucato_Hobbsee: wait a bit longer... I don't know what's slowing down my connection...03:24
jsgotangcoits your porn downloads03:25
Hobbseekwwii: the windowdecotest_new3.png for the inactive window overlay seems to look better, at least here - you may want to check that out03:25
faboRiddell: ok03:25
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Riddellkwwii: the more I look at this kicker background the more it just looks like a stripe through the middle03:25
Hobbseeyes, and?03:26
HawkwindHmmm, window deco looks the same here too03:26
Hobbseehi bddebian 03:27
bddebianHeya Hobbsee03:27
HawkwindHey there bddebian03:27
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bddebianHi Hawkwind03:27
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Jucato_hi bddebian03:27
HawkwindJucato_: I think you're seeing things :P03:27
Hobbseehi abattoir 03:27
bddebianHello Jucato_03:27
Hawkwindabattoir: Good morning03:28
Jucato_hi abattoir03:28
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Jucato_gah! s2pd fingers!03:28
abattoirHi, Hobbsee, Hawkwind, Jucato_ :D03:28
Hobbseehmm...new konq buttons...03:29
abattoirthe buttons look cool03:29
Hobbseeanother victim03:29
HawkwindI'm seeing that win deco too, but I guess I don't remember what the old one looked like :P03:30
gnomefreakwhat is the theme name for that?03:30
Jucato_it's Konqueror (with the new windeco) displaying a shot of Konqueror with the old windeco03:30
Jucato_so you could compare :03:30
Hobbseehow do i kill konq to make it grab the new icons?03:30
Jucato_oh those aren't new icons03:30
Jucato_I mean, not new Crystal SVG icons03:30
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Jucato_abattoir: of course none :P03:31
abattoirJucato_: aah, ok :)03:31
kwwiisorry, my son needed help with his homework03:31
abattoirkwwii: the windeco gradient and the buttons look cool :)03:32
Jucato_kwwii: you rock! you are officially my new favorite artist! (replacing ev____o)03:32
kwwiiHobbsee: so you like the softer highlight03:32
gnomefreakwhat theme is this?03:32
abattoirgnomefreak: the windeco is crystal03:32
kwwiiHobbsee: I spent a lot of time trying to decide which one03:32
abattoir(unless it has been changed)03:32
Hobbseekwwii: i love what you've done, with the active window03:32
Hobbseehowever, it really does look like a grey line thru the middle for the inactive03:33
Jucato_it's Crystal windeco with new Kubuntu buttons03:33
Hobbseekwwii: the active one absolutely rocks, and it's making me wonder if i inherited a nice graphics card somehow by accident03:33
gnomefreakcrystal svg or clear?03:33
Jucato_gnomefreak: ah the icon set?03:33
gnomefreakyes to start03:33
Hobbseekwwii: want a screenshot of what i'm thinking?03:33
kwwiiI was kinda worried about making such a big change but it seems people like it03:33
Hobbseeit's gorgeous :)03:34
Jucato_kwwii: you like making big changes don't yah? :P03:34
Jucato_gnomefreak: oxygen03:34
kwwiiHobbsee: I was actually using the 3b.png on the inactive window on my system, but thought I should only include one03:35
gnomefreakyou got it from kde-look.org?03:35
Jucato_the kubuntu-panel.png looks a bit.. weird, though03:35
Jucato_gnomefreak: nope. svn.03:35
gnomefreakoxygen icons are not in kde that i can see03:35
Jucato_gnomefreak: oxygen will be KDE 4's new icon set03:36
kwwiignomefreak: they are in playground/artwork03:36
kwwiiit should be moving into kde4 sometime soon03:36
Jucato_hopefully very soon :P03:36
kwwiiperhaps shortly after akademy03:36
Hobbseekwwii: http://buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/snapshot1.png03:36
Hobbseeto me, that looks prettier03:36
Hobbseekwwii: specifically the gradients stuff - although i do prefer my close buttons on the side :P03:38
abattoirHobbsee: is that the default kicker bg as well?03:38
Hobbseeabattoir: no, that's transparent, to go with my desktop background03:38
abattoirHobbsee: oh, ok, thanks03:39
Jucato_the kubuntu-panel.png looks like it's split into two colors, not a gradient effect. i don't know if that's intended..03:39
mornfalli'd guess so03:39
Hobbseeit does look rather weird with anything but the default background, yes03:40
mornfallanyone with a screeny? :)03:40
Hobbseemornfall: of?03:40
Jucato_ugh this is hopeless... I'm booting back into Dapper. :P03:40
mornfallHobbsee: default panel03:40
Hobbseebut dapper's so sold :P03:40
mornfallsold or old? :)03:40
Hobbseedoes it get colourized or what?03:41
Jucato_Hobbsee: for some odd reason, my internet connection is crawling... I'm going to check if it's the same in Dapper03:41
Jucato_err.... colorized doesn't look good03:41
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Jucato_heh bye :P03:41
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Hobbseemornfall: ^03:42
mornfallquoth the server, 40403:42
Hobbsees/sold/old/  thanks mornfall 03:42
Hobbseehaha, right03:42
kwwiiHobbsee: you prefer simpler buttons, it seems03:42
Hobbseeoh, it's waiting on a password, dont mind me03:43
mornfallye gods03:43
Hobbseekwwii: true.  i'm not pushing for that change - i'm more meaning the gradients03:43
Hobbseei just think those buttons look pretty03:43
mornfallmy konq went all weird03:43
Hobbseemornfall: i may have it wrong - i picked at the sources03:43
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Hobbseenow try03:43
mornfallit got mimetype right now03:44
mornfalloh, the panel looks fine :-)03:44
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mornfallpolyester look is all the craze these days, ain't it? :)03:45
Hobbseemornfall: yes and no - that's polyester, with crystal buttons.  03:45
Hobbseekinda weird :P03:45
mornfalli mean the lighting style03:46
Hobbseeah yes03:46
Hobbseemornfall: where polyester == shiny, yes03:46
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Hobbseemornfall: i'm a girl, remember :P03:46
mornfalljust solid grey fills with black lines03:46
Hobbseei like shiny :P03:46
mornfalltalking about girls "An honest smile outshines all the jewelry of the world."03:47
kwwiiI think we have reached almost the full saturation of bling03:47
Hobbseegood, because i never wear much jewelry :P03:47
Hobbseekwwii: probably.  if you do too much more, it may look vista-esque03:48
mornfalli forgot about vista03:48
mornfallthat one's shiny too, eh?03:48
kwwiiwhich, as a mac user, would be boring03:48
Hobbseethat looks horrific with all the transparencies, last i saw03:48
mornfallyou are entitled to transparency torture only if you have powerful gfx card -- which i don't, not to say i don't have vista :] 03:49
Hobbseeoh lovely.  so i'll never have it :P03:50
kwwiinow if we could all work together and make new about, app start, and help pages!03:51
HobbseeRiddell: poke in #kubuntu03:51
Hobbseesomeone's been borking my fn-keys03:53
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Hobbseekmilo isnt running.  i wonder why not03:56
Riddellhow do you know?03:57
Hobbseei'm guessing, via ps aux03:57
Hobbseehow do i go about debugging it?03:57
Riddellit's not a process, it's part of kded03:58
Hobbseehow do i figure otu what's gone wrong then?03:58
Hobbseeapart from "iv'e killed something bad"03:58
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Hobbsee_right, it04:08
Hobbsee_s' just my system going nuts04:08
Hobbseewhat'd i miss?04:08
Jucato_a lot of silence, I think04:08
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Hobbseeit seems to like doing that04:08
Jucato_coz it loves you sooo much :)04:09
Hobbseesure it does04:09
HobbseeRiddell: you spoke to the guy in #kubuntu ?04:10
Hobbseecool :)04:11
Jucato_what guy? what happened? dang I missed out on the fun again...04:11
abattoirJucato_: someone interested in a 'donation'04:12
Jucato_ooh donating to Kubuntu?04:12
Hobbseei cant spell, clearly04:15
Jucato_your fingers love you too soooo much :)04:15
Hobbseei'll blame it on the finger i broke a while ago.04:16
Hobbseea very *long* while ago, but i'll blame it on that anyway :P04:16
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Hobbseetime for bed04:19
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tomabed? its 4.24pm04:23
Jucato_she's in australia, it's 12:25am04:24
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Tonio_imbrandon: ping ?04:35
imbrandonTonio_: pong04:35
Tonio_imbrandon: I jsut found the dapper mysql version has a bug....04:35
Tonio_imbrandon: MySQL Error  : Lost connection to MySQL server during query04:35
Tonio_I get this on certain queries, then I just have to relaunch them and it is okay04:36
Tonio_imbrandon: tried a backport and the problem is resolved...04:36
Tonio_imbrandon: shouldn't we backport this with proftpd ?04:36
imbrandonhrm lemme try to build it and see what the deps are, becouse AOLT ot things depend on mysql04:37
Tonio_imbrandon: heh.......04:38
imbrandonoh wow that would be like 10 packages, what mysql are you talking aobut 4.x or 5.x ? both are in dapper04:38
Tonio_imbrandon: Version: 5.0.21-3ubuntu104:39
Tonio_this package04:39
Tonio_backporting 5.0.22 is okay04:39
Tonio_imbrandon: should impact anything04:40
Tonio_imbrandon: the error hasn't been reported to launchpad, but there are lots of threads on the net talking about that issue04:40
imbrandonwell all the support packages would have to go along with it too i would think, i dunno, lemme finish breakfast then i'll ask arround04:40
Tonio_it doesn't work for some people for some unknown reason04:40
Tonio_imbrandon: yes, okay04:40
Tonio_hum, that would mean backporting all packages compiled with mysql-dev....04:41
Tonio_I can understand the point04:41
imbrandonyea .....04:41
imbrandonprobably isnt doable but i'll check04:41
Tonio_imbrandon: http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=4680004:41
Tonio_here is an example of discussion about that problem04:41
Tonio_the guy just had this when he migrated to edgy04:42
Riddellnixternal: how are the docs looking?04:42
Tonio_imbrandon: and concerning proftpd ?04:42
imbrandonfiling it now, i just did a few other ones too this morning, kamoin wont get to them untill tomarrow though04:42
imbrandonmoins Riddell 04:43
Tonio_imbrandon: okay :)04:43
nixternalRiddell: they look pretty good I think. YOu want to look over them quickly before you build them?04:43
Tonio_imbrandon: the point is that such a bug is really annoying on a LTS version ;)04:43
nixternalimbrandon: you pinged me last night...anything important?04:43
Tonio_especially since the server part is supposed to be supported for 5 years04:43
Riddellnixternal: yes, I will do, thanks04:45
imbrandonnixternal: i cant rember why heh04:45
imbrandonprobably not04:45
imbrandonTonio_: yes very, but they only do the archive stuff on tue and friday iirc , well mostly , so it will get done , just might be a few days04:45
imbrandonyea but thats for security and updates , backports isnt supported ;(04:46
Tonio_imbrandon: heh, I was talking about mysql here, not proftpd :)04:46
imbrandonyea i know04:46
Tonio_ah okay ;)04:46
Tonio_it looks like socket connections are working, but you get sometimes timeouts on tcp requests...04:47
Tonio_this is why it doesn't impact lots of people04:47
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Tonio_imbrandon: http://www.google.fr/search?hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=5.0.21+MySQL+Error+%3A+Lost+connection+to+MySQL+server+during+query&btnG=Rechercher&meta=04:48
Tonio_hehe, looks like the bugs is widely known.... I'm just surprised none reported it to launchpad04:48
Tonio_imbrandon: I'll report it04:48
imbrandonyea i dont doubt the bug Tonio_ i just dont know if a backport of such a large package is feasible04:48
Tonio_imbrandon: of course, sounds logic :)04:49
imbrandonkinda like backporting kde 3.5.5 to dapper ;)04:49
Tonio_hehe ;)04:49
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Riddellkwwii: about? meeting in 10 mins04:52
kwwiiRiddell: yepp, thanks for the reminder04:52
Tonio_imbrandon: wait....... it looks like a possible vbulletin bug, not mysql....... interesting04:55
Tonio_imbrandon: I get the information from mysql bts04:55
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jdongimbrandon / Tonio_, please don't backport mysql.... :)05:14
imbrandonjdong: we know this05:14
imbrandonwas already discussed ;)05:14
jdongk, I caught just a glimpse of that discussion05:14
jdongremember, short attention span? ;)05:15
Jucatoheh... yeah, as proven by some *-plugin... :P05:15
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Tonio_jdong don't mind we were just discussing about that, but it looks like my problem is vbulletin crashing with mysql 5.0.2105:16
Tonio_not mysql itself ;)05:16
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jdongJucato: it's not like the original dapper packages work anymore anyway :)05:16
Jucatowell, it was working a few days ago :P05:17
jdongJucato: here it complains about upstream changes to the download site05:18
jdongpresumably because of adobe's security update05:18
jdongimbrandon: bug 61673, would a package name be helpful or enlightening?05:18
UbugtuMalone bug 61673 in dapper-backports "1.0-0ubuntu5 to dapper-backports" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6167305:18
imbrandonhahah yea add konversation to that please ( this is one reason the old backport stucture worked well )05:19
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imbrandonthat would cause many issues05:21
imbrandonanyhow busy atm bbiab05:21
Riddellabattoir: seen #ubuntu-meeting?05:23
Riddell16:19 < Kamion> Riddell: yes, and I rearranged the code so he could slot in use of kwin or whatever, although I don't think I've seen a patch05:23
Riddell                from him yet that does that05:23
abattoirRiddell: yes, i'm working on that...05:23
abattoirRiddell: apparently to set a background you need to use QApplication.. which i think is a bit overkill05:24
abattoirRiddell: maybe you can help me :P05:24
Riddellbackground for what?05:24
RiddellI'm in the distro meeting just now05:24
abattoirRiddell: ok, sorry, i'll speak w/ you later05:25
abattoir(unless i figure it out myself)05:25
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fabocould you confirm 61691 ?05:29
imbrandonRiddell: am i supose to be pre-paring stuff for these meetings too ? heh i just thought about that05:30
imbrandonafter reading about tkm....05:30
Riddellimbrandon: no, he got a contract with canonical05:31
imbrandonahhh ok , whew05:31
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Riddellimbrandon: you can of course if you wish, but it's mostly useful for people with specs to implement05:31
imbrandonright ;)05:31
imbrandonmaybe soonish but not this time ;)05:31
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Tonio_imbrandon: confirmed, upgrading vbulletin resolves the issue.... sorry for bugging you...05:39
imbrandonTonio_: no worries, its how we figure things out ;)05:39
Tonio_yup, true ;)05:40
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Tonio_hum, I'm thinking about packaging eaccelerator.... would be nice to have this working by just installing a package05:58
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RiddellTonio_: what's that?06:07
faboRiddell: could you confirm 61691 ? :)06:07
Tonio_Riddell: php caching system06:07
Tonio_Riddell: it keeps a cache with precompiled scripts, dynamically06:07
Tonio_Riddell: it is much, much faster when you use it06:08
Tonio_Riddell: just a question !06:08
imbrandonTonio_: doesnt the zend engine already do that ?06:08
Tonio_imbrandon: it is much better than zend06:08
imbrandonahh ;)06:08
Tonio_imbrandon: I just think it hasa licence issue :)06:08
Riddellfabo: you need to add the debian changelog06:09
Tonio_Riddell, imbrandon: http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/12 isn't that gpl violation ?06:09
Tonio_that's the eaccelerator licence06:09
Tonio_imbrandon: benches report that eaccelerator is about 5 times faster than zend06:09
faboRiddell: i've got a nice bug somewhere :) click save changes and nothing added ...06:10
RiddellTonio_: no06:10
Riddellfabo: on what?06:11
Tonio_Riddell: changing is not allowed ?06:11
kwwiiis yakuake broken for everyone else too?06:11
Tonio_kwwii: works here06:11
pygikwwii: !!!06:11
RiddellTonio_: not of the GPL text no06:11
kwwiihi pygi06:11
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faboRiddell: on launchpad. i reloaded the page and have added the changelog06:11
pygihi kwwii , long time no see :)06:12
Tonio_Riddell: ah... I never saw that line before.... hehe06:12
kwwiipygi: yeah, it has been a while06:12
Tonio_Riddell: AH ! changing the licence document, not the software.....06:13
Tonio_Riddell: looks like I'm VERY tired....06:13
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Tonio_okay let's go packaging then06:13
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Riddellfabo: confirmed06:14
Tonio_kwwii: tried to remove your ~/.kde/share/config/yakuakerc ?06:14
kwwiiTonio_: yeah, that would be my next step06:15
Tonio_kwwii: let me know quick since I may go for a little sleep.... it looks like I'm not able to read english correctly now ;)06:15
kwwiiTonio_: erm, there is no yakuakerc06:16
Tonio_kwwii: weird......06:16
Tonio_what happens when you launch it ?06:16
abattoirRiddell: are you free now?06:16
Riddellabattoir: no, 15 mins06:16
abattoirRiddell: ok, thanks06:16
kwwiiI had one, I know, because I have to change the kex combo for it to work on my machine06:16
Tonio_kwwii: I now provide a yakuakerc in kds....06:17
Tonio_maybe this has a problem with ppc machines ?06:17
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Tonio_kwwii: what you can do is removing that file06:17
kwwiiTonio_: the file does not exist, how can I remove it?06:18
Tonio_kwwii: /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/yakuakerc06:18
Tonio_this one :)06:18
Tonio_it works nicelly here, but maybe has an issue with mac computers06:18
kwwiinow it startts06:19
kwwiiremoving that file helped06:19
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Riddellkwwii: could you track down which line in that file is the problem?06:23
kwwiiRiddell: yepp, after the meeting is over06:23
jdongRiddell: kubuntu-desktop is being obnoxious.... it only wants guidance power manager, and no longer accepts kpowersave as an alternative06:23
sebasAnd it's damn right to do so :-)06:24
Riddellguidance power manager conflicts with kpowersave06:24
RiddellI don't know if that's necessarily the right thing to do06:24
sebasRiddell: Jim Bublitz sent a possible fix for the KUniqueApplication problem, btw.06:24
sebasDidn't try it yet.06:24
Riddellsebas: he also says he fixed konsole part support, so he's having a good day :)06:25
sebasThe conflict has no technical reasons that I see, well maybe the brightness setting.06:25
kwwiiRiddell: the only line that is different from what is now in me .kde/share/config/yakuakerc file is "focus=false"06:25
kwwiiso set that to true06:25
sebasThere was also some discussion whether to put pykde in kdesvn and develop it there, would be a good step IMO.06:25
imbrandonsebas: +106:25
kwwiiRiddell: funky, when I change my local file to focus=false it still works fine06:28
jdongRiddell: yes, powermanager should conflict kpowersave, but kubuntu-desktop shouldn't uninstall if I decide to go with kpowersave06:30
jdongRiddell: installing kpowersave should remove guidance-pm, but preserve kubuntu-desktop06:31
sebasThen you'd need a pm metapackage.06:31
Riddellno, I'll make it a recommends06:31
sebasProblem is that you lose a lot of stuff if you uninstall g-o-m06:31
sebasp that is.06:31
sebasIt's the whole guidance package06:31
Riddellsebas: no, I split it06:33
Riddellfabo: ^^ might want to look at merging that into debian06:33
kwwiiRiddell: forget my yakuake problems, I cannot reproduce them so it must have just been a wierd glithc06:35
sebasRiddell: Ah, ok.06:36
faboRiddell: ok, i must prepare an updated package for Debian and put it in unstable.06:36
Riddellabattoir: hi, what can I do?06:39
abattoirRiddell: when oem-config runs at first boot, i need to set /usr/share/wallpapers/kubuntu-wallpaper.png as the background for the Xsession06:40
abattoirRiddell: Kamion currently does it using gtk06:40
abattoirRiddell: if i were to use qt, i'd need to initialise a QApplication(to use QPaintDevice and QPixmap)...06:40
abattoirRiddell: is that necessary? or would something like xsetroot do?06:41
abattoir(but xsetroot apparently doesnt support png)06:41
Riddellxsetroot was what I was thinking of06:41
Riddellbut not supporting png is quite an issue06:41
abattoirhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24258 is the gtk code06:42
abattoirself.background refers to the path of the image(and kindly ignore the indenting)06:42
RiddellI don't think you can do the same with QDesktopWidget06:47
abattoiri think QPaintDevice.x11AppRootWindow might help, but as i said, i'd need a QApplication, and wouldnt that be a bit overkill for just setting a background?06:48
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Tonio_kwwii: hum, that's weird...... means that the default config is not compatible with ppc computers ? 06:49
Riddellabattoir: I'd say leave it for now and just do "xsetroot -solid lightblue"06:49
inamhi all... can someone help me... im looking for the source code of "cal"06:49
abattoirRiddell: ok, i'll do that...06:49
abattoirRiddell: thanks 06:50
abattoiror should it be purple :P06:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:50
Riddellabattoir: ask kwwii :)06:51
Riddellinam: dpkg -S /usr/bin/cal06:51
Riddellinam: but that's a #kubuntu issue06:51
Riddellinam: apt-get source bsdmainutils06:51
inamRiddell, sorry for bothering... but i thot this is the space for developers and hence i should ask about source code locations here :)06:52
inamthanks anyways !06:52
_Sime_sebas: when are you leaving for dublin?06:55
kwwiiTonio_: no, I simply think that my system had some other problem at that exact moment06:58
kwwiiTonio_: or it was a random error06:58
kwwiiTonio_: as I cannot make it not work again06:58
Tonio_kwwii: ah....06:58
kwwiithe purple color of the window deco is #6569ae, in case anyone wants to use that somewhere06:59
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kwwiibut it might be better to use one of the lighter blue colors from the wallpaper07:01
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nixternalhey...i want the cool usplash!  i don't want to see the "test" one anymore07:01
nixternalhttp://nixternal.ubuntu-rocks.org/blog/   <-- kwwii, #6569ae is my friend ;)07:01
kwwiinixternal: it should be in07:02
kwwiinixternal: lol07:02
nixternali gotta hack around on that more today07:02
nixternallemme reboot and see if i get the test usplash or the groovy one...07:03
kwwiinixternal: perhaps we should work on the khelp center header stuff07:03
nixternalyes..i shall return after this reboot...if i have a test usplash, im gonna hunt you down!! ;)07:03
kwwiinixternal: I will test some ideas and get in touch with you07:03
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kwwiisomeone tell nixternal I will be back in an hour07:05
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fdoving19:07 < kwwii> someone tell nixternal I will be back in an hour07:07
fdovingthat's CEST. 2mins ago.07:07
nixternalhe got lucky ;)  my usplash is still the testing one07:09
nixternalanyone else having issues with "rebooting"?   when I reboot, all that happens for me is my screen shuts off, and the computer locks..i have to "reset" every time07:09
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kwwiiRiddell: so tomorrow is the deadline for including things in the beta?08:30
imbrandonkwwii: i think soo, from what they said in the u-devel earlier08:32
imbrandonearly tomarrow sometime it looks like 08:32
kwwiiwell, then I better get cracking on the usplash08:33
kwwiiimbrandon: thanks for packaging that stuff yesterday, I appreciate it08:33
imbrandonnp kwwii anytime08:34
imbrandonjust poke me if you ever need something thrown up and i'm arround08:34
imbrandoni like doing yours anyhow that way i get a sneek peek ;)08:34
imbrandonhrm new stargate torrent finish, gonna watch that, if anyone needs me hilight my name so it beeps at me08:36
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nixternalkwwii: whats up with the images for khelpcenter?08:52
nixternalalso, anyone in here can do some doc proofing before we build it, that would be great!08:52
kwwiinixternal: I will try to make a new design based on the config of the old one08:57
nixternalwe are good string wise, so there isn't a huge rush, unless Riddell says different08:58
nixternalis there something i can do to get the "pretty" usplash working, and not the test one?08:59
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kwwiinixternal: for me it worked after putting the right sesolution in the config file09:02
nixternal# Usplash configuration file09:04
nixternalman i love the /cmd with konversation09:04
gnomefreakchange it :)09:04
nixternalto what09:04
nixternalk..lemme try that09:05
gnomefreaklet me check on that09:05
nixternalanything else i have to do after changing it?09:05
nixternalupdate-initramfs -u09:06
gnomefreakafter you save it run sudo update-initramfs -09:06
gnomefreakyes that09:06
abattoirgnomefreak: any idea if it supports widescreen resolutions?(1280x800) ?09:07
gnomefreakand poof done. if you want the text take quite out of the boot options in /grub/menu.lst09:07
gnomefreakabattoir: i dont think it does. (i beilieve i saw that it was an issue)09:07
abattoirgnomefreak: aah, ok, thought it might not, thanks :)09:07
gnomefreakmjg would be the one to ask09:07
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=== gnomefreak was happier than a pig in crap when someone told me how to fix that :)
kwwiignomefreak: yeah, Kamion fixed mine just so that I could test the new theming stuff :-)09:09
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gnomefreak_ion fixed mine09:10
gnomefreaknixternal: ?????09:10
nixternalall that did was give me a 1024x768 view of the Test usplash ;)09:12
gnomefreaknixternal: i dont have the test splash09:14
gnomefreaki have a real one09:14
nixternali do unfortunately09:14
gnomefreakbig ubuntu sign with sectioned progress bar09:14
nixternali have that on my ubuntu box09:15
nixternalbut not my kubuntu box09:15
gnomefreaknixternal: try sudo update-alternatives and change the usplash09:15
gnomefreaki use sudo update-alternatives --all only cause i can never remember what the name of it is09:15
nixternaldidn't run across anything for usplash09:17
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nixternalThere is only 1 program which provides usplash-artwork.so09:18
nixternal(/usr/lib/usplash/usplash-theme-kubuntu.so). Nothing to configure.09:18
nixternalthats why09:18
gnomefreakonly kubuntu on that box?09:19
gnomefreakthat would be why :(09:19
nixternalit seems there is a broken link in /usr/lib/usplash09:19
nixternalusplash-artwork.so -> /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so09:20
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nixternalall of the usplash links are broken09:20
nixternal /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so -> /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so09:21
nixternala link that points to itself09:21
nixternalbet it works now09:23
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=== nixternal writes up a post to teach everyone how to fix their kubuntu usplash issue
nixternalis there a way to create a patch to fix the /etc/alternatives/ link?09:29
nixternalthat is the issue09:30
nixternaland there are a lot of people with the problem09:30
kwwiinixternal: sounds nasty09:32
nixternalit has been plaguing me forever09:32
kwwiiis it an update issue or an install issue?09:32
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nixternalim thinking update09:36
=== gnomefreak has been lucky no link issues
nixternalas i have had this edgy since day one09:36
nixternaland updates never fixed it09:36
kwwiiso how does one install mp3 support in edgy?09:39
kwwiiI ask this for every release09:39
kwwiieventually, when I get my sound working it becomes important09:39
kwwiiI love the fact that amarok offers to install it per pop-up everytime I click on an mp3 file but the fact that that pop-up does exactly nothing is kinda irratating09:40
nixternalsudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs09:43
nixternalor ya, amarok offers that now09:43
nixternalreally..amarok has installed it for me in the past..maybe they broke something09:44
gnomefreaknixternal: did you knwo you were banned from kubuntu-offtopic09:44
kwwiiwell, it does not work for me09:44
nixternalnow i did09:44
nixternalthat was when i got hacked09:44
gnomefreakoh ok09:44
nixternali went from a cisco pix 501 router to a linksys wrt54g router..and in a matter of minutes i had issues09:45
kwwiilibxine-extracodecs is already the newest version.09:46
kwwiiand it still doesn#t work09:46
kwwiiimbrandon: problems with amarok on your ppc?09:46
kwwiiI have exactly one CD in ogg, the other 30Gb in MP309:47
imbrandonworks ok here , thats what i package amarok on is a ppc, you did restart amarok ( including the tray icon ) after you installed the libxine right ?09:47
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imbrandonalthough there was a libxine update today , i havent downloaded it09:48
imbrandoni hope amarok dosent have to be rebuilt against it09:48
=== gnomefreak needs a free mp3/playlist collection :(
kwwiiimbrandon: yepp, it was installed a long time ago09:49
imbrandonhrmm ok give me a bit to go grab my laptop and check it out09:50
nixternalspeaking of amarok..i noticed last night that the sound seemed 'distorted' a little bit09:59
imbrandonthat means its time for a qtip nixternal  ;)10:00
nixternalit sounds fine now...if you take the volume in amarok above 80%, you will get it10:00
imbrandonyea thats normal10:00
nixternalmaybe for amarok, not iTunes ;)10:01
imbrandonleave it at 80 and adj the normal sound system10:01
imbrandonits normal for anything that uses a real eq system10:01
imbrandoni stand corrected ;)10:01
imbrandon( e.g itunes changes the system mixer level , amaroks voluume acts like a preamp its not tied to the systems mixers )10:04
imbrandonanyhow bbiab10:04
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nixternal<imbrandon> its normal for anything that uses a real eq system10:05
nixternalermm...you mean amplifier...eq doesn't amp levels, just cleans um10:05
nixternalbut you are correct...any "real" audio system will usually distort between 78% and 84% i believe it is10:06
kwwiiwell, I have heard the same album 5 times today, and unless you want me to switch to Rammstein I hope someone could figure it out10:08
nixternalrammstein rocks!10:12
nixternalyou need some sammy!10:12
nixternalthe new hagar album rocks big time...i like how he mixed rock, blues, and country in this one10:13
=== imbrandon is listening to "Underneath Your Clothes" by Shakira on Laundry Service [Amarok]
imbrandonkwwii: this is on my ppc ^^10:14
nixternalshe is hot, but her music isn't10:14
imbrandondude she is hotness10:14
=== Tm_T never listens music because of someones "look"
nixternalher videos are intense10:14
nixternalhahah Tm_T!10:14
Tm_Tit's _music_ not porno10:14
kwwiiimbrandon: you suck10:14
kwwiiimbrandon: on my powerbook it would probably work10:14
imbrandoni like he music too FWIW10:14
Tm_Tanyway, I'm going to sleep ;) ->10:15
nixternalnite Tm_T10:15
imbrandonkwwii: try it to make sure10:15
imbrandonif you can10:15
kwwiihonestly, this eMac is the best test for ppc10:15
imbrandongnight Tm_T 10:15
kwwii*nothing* works10:15
kwwiiI have to edit the Xorg conf per hand10:15
=== nixternal is listening to "I Love This Bar" by Sammy Hagar & The Wabos on Livin' It Up [Amarok]
nixternalmp3's, m4a's, ogg, and wma's all work10:15
=== kwwii is listneing to the same damn Danish ogg CD for the 5th time
DaSkreechAwwww Sweet :-)10:16
imbrandoni should convert my collection to ogg, it would take a week or two10:16
kwwiiI will switch to Rammstein (the only other ogg's I have) and freak people out (like I did in Wiesbaden)10:16
kwwiiactually, the eMac has really nice speakers10:17
imbrandondu hast mich10:17
kwwiidu, du hast, du hast mich10:17
kwwiiit is a play on words10:17
imbrandoni love that song10:17
kwwiiyou have me vs. you hate me10:17
kwwiithe difference is in how long the s is in the word10:17
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imbrandoni keep them in mp3 mainly so i can play them on my ipod in the apple os10:19
=== imbrandon is listening to "Get The Party Started (Sweet Dreams Remix)" by p!nk [Amarok]
imbrandonnother hottie ;P10:20
imbrandonthe last few weeks though my fav song has been "Rockstar" by nickelback, man that song rocks, nixternal you should grab it10:22
nixternali have it10:22
nixternalit is a good song...nickleback got me with that one song they did last year10:22
imbrandonall nickelback rocks actualy10:23
imbrandon.... and a king sized tub big enough for 10 plus me .......10:23
imbrandoni can see it now in cali it will only be kwwii and me outside smokin and listning to ramstein10:23
imbrandon./` .... i'm gonna trade this life for fortune and fame, i'll even cut my hair and change my name .... ./`10:25
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nixternali will sit outside and listen as well..but i won't smoke10:25
imbrandonheh i couldent deal with computers without a smoke10:26
imbrandonit would drive me nuts10:26
nixternalya..that is why i go afk quite a bit ;)10:26
imbrandon( and a mt dew ) ;P10:26
nixternali used to smoke..and when i wa sont he puter, it was smokes and dew non-stop10:26
nixternalbut since i quit them both...i have to take breaks10:26
imbrandonmy breaks are for a cute mexican hottie that has me drag her out on the town now and then and to goto the fridge for more dew, thats it10:27
nixternalim taking a break this week..im heading to the great countryside of canada tomorrow10:28
kwwiinixternal: you'll fit well in ca10:29
nixternali should be in toronto for about 30 minutes and then on a little crasher called a puddle jumper10:30
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=== imbrandon is listening to "Que Me Quedes Tu" by Shakira on Laundry Service [Amarok]
=== nixternal is listening to "Sunshine And Summertime" by Faith Hill on Fireflies (Advance) [Amarok]
nixternalthis song ownz, and she is a hottie!10:32
nixternalsouthern women FTW!10:32
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nixternalimbrandon: you need to fire up revu and take a look at my packages, that are probably obsolete by now10:39
imbrandondude i'm sleepy, barely able to make amarok and frostwire function10:39
imbrandonheh i will when i have slept10:40
imbrandonwouldent be much good now10:40
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=== DaSkreech got pretty usplash :)
=== nixternal does too
nixternalln -s /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-theme-kubuntu.so10:43
nixternalthat fixes it10:43
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imbrandonis that what the problem is ?>10:45
=== imbrandon looks at the source package
=== lnxkde kicks his cable modem!
gnomefreaknixternal: the usplash is just blue kubuntu with a progress bar?10:46
nixternalimbrandon: yes that is the problem10:47
nixternaland a stupid one at that10:47
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nixternalfollow the links, it is one big circle10:47
nixternalyou go from /usr/lib -> /etc/alternatives/ -> /usr/lib10:47
nixternal /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so -> /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so10:48
nixternal /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so -> /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-theme-kubuntu.so10:49
imbrandonahh found the problem10:51
imbrandonfixing .....10:51
nixternalit was that for youa s well?10:51
imbrandonmine was ok, i'm talking about the package10:52
nixternali meant to write that up, as there are a "ton" of Kubuntu edgy users complaining that they still have the "test" usplash10:52
imbrandonbah there on a development release10:52
imbrandonit will be fixed shortly10:52
nixternalya, but still, it needs to work in order to stop the bugs ;)10:52
nixternalfunny thing...we should have realized this sooner shouldn't we?10:53
nixternalwhy did it take the one no0b to find it?10:53
imbrandonwhy it was just released a few days ago10:53
imbrandonbecouse it wasent a priority ;)10:53
nixternalwell...this no0b is still taking the victory lap for it ;)10:54
imbrandonhrm actualy10:55
imbrandonit should be working 10:55
imbrandonase "$1" in10:55
imbrandon    configure)10:55
imbrandon        update-alternatives --remove usplash-artwork.so /usr/lib/usplash/kubuntu-splash.so10:55
imbrandon        update-alternatives --install /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so usplash-artwork.so /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-theme-kubuntu.so 1510:55
imbrandon        update-initramfs -u10:55
imbrandon        ;;10:55
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nixternalhmm..that is odd..it should10:58
DaSkreechWhich one is the pretty one?10:58
DaSkreechThe one with Segments?10:58
nixternalthere is another one?11:00
nixternali have the glossy kubuntu logo, with the status bar below11:00
imbrandonthere is only one11:00
DaSkreechOh then I have that one then :)11:00
DaSkreechI can't edit repos from Adept though :-(11:00
nixternalwhat is adept?11:04
nixternalsudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list11:04
nixternalquicker and easier11:04
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imbrandonok nixternal you got one of those "ton" of people handy11:10
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DaSkreechI know but there are huge number of people who join #kubuntu and don't want to use GUI11:20
DaSkreechand an equal number who can't use anything but11:20
DaSkreechHmm Can I have X output on two Videocards at the same time?11:20
ryanakcaDaSkreech: like the same output, or split output... half a screen on each monitor...11:21
imbrandonryanakca: you can do either one11:21
ryanakcaimbrandon: ah :)11:21
imbrandonyou just cant have X on one and a seperate X on the other11:22
DaSkreechYou can't? that sucks11:22
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imbrandonDaSkreech: how would you determine what X server has the input for your mouse and keyboard11:23
imbrandonRiddell: ping11:24
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imbrandonheya Hobbsee 11:25
mornfallhi Hobbsee 11:25
ryanakcahey pointystickperson11:25
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mornfallanything wrong with that?11:25
imbrandonHobbsee: is your computer a upgrade or a fresh knot install ? ( eg do you have the testcard usplash or not ), i thnk i fixed it but i need a tester before i upload11:25
imbrandonheya mornfall 11:26
Hobbseehey imbrandon, mornfall, ryanakca 11:26
Hobbseemornfall: good man :P11:26
Hobbseeimbrandon: fresh knot 2 install, iirc11:26
ryanakcaimbrandon: my computer is a fresh know install... 11:26
Hobbseemight be knot 111:26
ryanakcaknow 311:26
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Riddellbut actually, it is11:32
imbrandonbut i cant be certain11:32
Riddellimbrandon: don't we already have that?11:32
kwwiiryanakca: no idea...it should not be that way11:32
imbrandonnope we have --install but not --set11:32
Riddellimbrandon: aah11:32
kwwiiRiddell: good answer, but does anything specifially piss you off?11:32
ryanakcakwwii: wierd... 11:32
imbrandonRiddell: should i upload it , or find someone to test ?11:32
kwwiino worries about the answer11:32
kwwiiryanakca: they should look like http://bootsplash.org/snapshot8.png11:33
Riddellimbrandon: I keep forgetting you have main upload now :)11:33
ryanakcakwwii: nope...11:34
Riddellimbrandon: does it need to be --install'ed then --set ?11:34
Riddellimbrandon: man page doesn't say anything about --set adding it, although it would seem daft not to11:34
imbrandonRiddell: from what i read in the man page it does11:34
imbrandonhere is what i changed it to11:35
imbrandoncase "$1" in11:35
imbrandon    configure)11:35
imbrandon        update-alternatives --install /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so usplash-artwork.so /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-theme-kubuntu.so 1011:35
imbrandon        update-alternatives --set usplash-artwork.so /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-theme-kubuntu.so11:35
imbrandon        update-initramfs -u11:35
imbrandon        ;;11:35
Riddellimbrandon: looks good to me, do it11:35
Riddellkwwii: I like how ubuntu doesn't have a black background on their current usplash11:36
kwwiiRiddell: good point, I was waiting for that to be tested11:36
imbrandonRiddell: yea i like that too, i was gonna sugest it for us 11:36
kwwiinot sure if it would always be the right size11:37
kwwiierm, I meant whether it would be enclosed by black bars on the sides due to the non-scaling of some resolutions11:38
Riddellkwwii: I'd have hoped usplash would have a setting for the default background colour to fill the whole screen with11:38
Riddellbut probably it doesn't11:39
kwwiiRiddell: I am sure that is possible, now, somehow11:39
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kwwiiSeveas is very receptive to simple ideas11:39
ryanakcaDaSkreech: I like them...11:39
kwwiibut he just came home from a conference11:39
HobbseeDaSkreech: they rock11:40
ryanakcakwwii: what folders do I delete to have kde revert to it's default look?11:40
Riddellkwwii: I'm also not convinced about the kicker background, but we'll leave it in for beta and see what people say11:40
kwwiiRiddell: so I I guess we will not update the usplash until after the beta, unless you want to do it11:40
DaSkreechThey make buttons look funny though11:40
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Riddellryanakca: kubuntu-default-settings11:40
Hobbseeryanakca: .kde/11:40
imbrandonRiddell: uploaded11:40
Hobbseeryanakca: oh, yeah11:40
Riddellimbrandon: thanks11:40
kwwiiRiddell: that is one thing that mark specifically mentioned on the ubuntu list11:40
kwwiihe likes backgrounds11:40
ryanakcaI mean .kde/share/what?11:40
imbrandonRiddell: yea sabdfl asked for one11:40
Riddellfor a kicker background?11:41
imbrandonyea "pannel" bg is what he said but yea11:41
Riddellkicker is panel11:41
Riddelloh well, I can just blame it on him then :)11:41
kwwiihe said he liked them11:41
kwwiiso I thought, ok...let's try one11:42
DaSkreechIs it me or has the Cd gotten smaller?11:42
imbrandonplus the pannel bg matches the windeco better11:42
RiddellI thought the contrast between the kubuntu report and the ubuntu report at today's developer meeting was interesting11:42
ryanakcaDaSkreech: it just fit on my CD without overburning...11:42
imbrandonRiddell: hahaha yea i noticed that too11:42
DaSkreechThe ISO is smaller11:42
DaSkreechWhat was the contrast?11:42
kwwiiRiddell: do you know how long mark will be at akademy? perhaps we can show him a current system?11:43
Riddellkwwii: just the tuesday, but yes we should11:43
ryanakcakwwii: you have any other panel background I can test?11:43
HobbseeRiddell: what about it?11:43
kwwiiRiddell: I even thought about making screenshots and showing him in an email11:43
HobbseeRiddell: i havent seen it yet11:43
kwwiiryanakca: NOPE11:43
ryanakcakwwii: lol... *attempts to create one for himself*11:44
DaSkreechimbrandon: What was the Contrast?11:44
imbrandonkwwii: if you do attach them , like he said in his "soyuz a road warrior" thing hehehe11:44
ryanakcaoooh... katapult is purple... nice11:44
kwwiiRiddell: in the end, I followed everything he said about how he wants gnome to be11:44
imbrandonDaSkreech: huh ?11:44
DaSkreechimbrandon: Between Ubuntu and Kubuntu reports at the meeting?11:44
imbrandononly did it kubuntuized11:44
kwwiiimbrandon: huh?11:44
kwwiireports of the meeting?11:45
imbrandonkwwii: i mean that in a good way ;) kubuntuized11:45
DaSkreech<Riddell> I thought the contrast between the kubuntu report and the ubuntu report at today's developer meeting was interesting11:45
kwwiiI wouldn't mind seeing those11:45
imbrandonDaSkreech: umm its hard to explain you'll have to read the log11:45
ryanakcakwwii: what's the default size for a panel gradient thingy?11:45
imbrandonbasicly kwwii said "yea we're rocking right on track" and ubuntu was the opsite11:46
kwwiiryanakca: i guessed 12[11:46
imbrandonDaSkreech: ^^11:46
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kwwiihehe, yeah11:46
kwwiiwell, that is not my fault11:46
ryanakcakwwii: soo... 128x16?11:46
ubotuChannel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs11:46
kwwiiryanakca: it could just as well be 1x12811:47
imbrandonryanakca: it dosent matter much kicker will scale it to the size it needs11:47
ryanakcakwwii: kk11:47
imbrandonryanakca: there are some examples from kde ( ugly imho but none the less ) in /usr/share/apps/kicker/wallpapers including the default one from kde11:48
ryanakcaimbrandon: kk11:48
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DaSkreechWas Sabdfl in the meeting?11:49
DaSkreechHmm What else should I grep for11:50
DaSkreechOhh Duh What time did the meeting start?11:50
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kwwii15:00 UTC11:50
kwwiijust check for my nick and fschoep11:51
imbrandonfschoep is the ubuntu AiC11:51
kwwiithey are having a conf call next week11:51
imbrandontomarrow iirc kwwii 11:51
kwwiiwe are basically close to done11:51
kwwiior tomorrow11:51
kwwiiI would love to take part in that11:52
imbrandonkwwii: why not have the same BG as the others in uspash ?11:53
imbrandonthen it would be consistant all the way11:53
Riddellimbrandon: because it's brown11:54
imbrandonno no i mean11:54
imbrandonthe desktop kspash kdm wallpaper11:54
imbrandonuse that as the bg for uspash also11:54
imbrandonbake it the same all the way though11:54
Riddelloh, too many colours probably, but interesting idea11:54
kwwiitoo many colors11:55
kwwiiI thought about putting it on a solid color other than black11:55
kwwiilike a dark purple11:55
imbrandonor that light almost blue color from amarok context menu11:55
kwwiiRiddell: if you want to update the uslash before the beta, I have a tar.gz ready with new pics11:56
Riddellkwwii: sure, what's new in it?11:56
imbrandoni am thinking light looks good becosue look at the light brown and the apple boot grey11:56
kwwiiRiddell: the logo is a bit smaller, and it includes a 640x480 theme which, without adding some code will not work, I guess11:56
Riddellabattoir: did you send a patch to kamion?11:57
kwwiibut at least, we could update the current pics11:57
Riddellkwwii: code to usplash?11:57
kwwiiRiddell: to the theme file, yes11:57
kwwiiI originally made it for 640x480 so the pics are really the same :-)11:57
kwwiifuny how that works11:58
imbrandonRiddell: i finaly figured out how to use uuencode and friends properly too when updating kwin-style-crystal for kwwii the other day ;)11:58
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Riddellimbrandon: they're tricky beasties richt enough11:59
imbrandonheh yea, honestly i would say the hardest thing about packing i have learned 11:59
Riddellkwwii: where is the theme file?11:59
Riddellimbrandon: document it!11:59
ajmitchimbrandon: why so?11:59
Riddellimbrandon: add it to the packaging guide11:59
ajmitchimbrandon: we'll have to find more challenging things for you11:59
imbrandonyea good idea Riddell 12:00
imbrandonajmitch: ohh i'm sure ;)12:00
imbrandonajmitch: basicly becouse i couldne t find docs on using them in a package 12:00
Hobbseehe's a core dev now, he has to be constantly challenged12:00
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imbrandonand no one else was awake12:00
kwwiiRiddell: you can simply replace the pics for existing pics, the extra theme for 640x480 does not exist yet12:00
imbrandonajmitch: heh12:00
ajmitchHobbsee: we all sit at his feet & bask in his wisdom?12:00
Riddellkwwii: since imbrandon just uploaded I can't do it until I get the new sources (or he could do it)12:01
kwwiiI hope that the color palette is not in the other files somehow12:01
Hobbseeajmitch: exactly.  and yours12:01
Hobbseeajmitch: and then poke you both wiht the long pointy stick12:01
ajmitchHobbsee: I don't count12:01
Hobbseeyes you do.12:01
imbrandonRiddell: i missed part of the convo , something else to update ?12:02
Riddellimbrandon: new usplash images http://bootsplash.org/usplash.tar.gz12:03
imbrandonahh okie, yea i just uploaded so i would have to do it, or wait, now i see12:03
imbrandongrabbing it now12:03
kwwiiwell, time for sleep12:06
kwwiisee you all tomorrow12:07
DaSkreechNot me :)12:07
imbrandonkwwii / Riddell uploaded12:07
imbrandongnight kwwii 12:07
Riddellimbrandon: we're in freeze but lucky for you I just got your upload approved :)12:10
imbrandonoh shit, i thought that dident start till tomarrow12:11
ajmitchimbrandon: nope :)12:12
imbrandonwhew , thanks Riddell 12:12
Hobbseeheh, i see what you mean @ the meeting12:12

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