=== kwwii_ goes to sleep....see you tomorrow [12:14] re [12:15] g'nite kwwii_ [12:15] omg the guys in my lug are asking how to build oo.o deb's /me hids from them for a while [12:15] night kwwii_ [12:15] haha [12:15] imbrandon: you lazy sushi eating mt dew drinker! [12:15] kwwii_: hahaha [12:15] there are only a million oo.o debs flying around the net as it is [12:15] im getting ready to head out for sushi [12:15] is Riddell gonna package the pannel image ? [12:15] imbrandon: yes [12:15] nice !! [12:15] i miss real sushi, and not this american crap [12:16] bis morgen.... [12:16] nixternal: i just had sushi takeout for lunch [12:16] mmm [12:16] i love sushi [12:16] adios [12:17] man..sebas and adrian were in greece...another place i really miss...if my x-wife would move there, i would so be there in a heartbeat..she wants to move to spain though [12:17] ouzo, you can run a ship from that stuff [12:18] oh well...bbiab ;) [12:19] spain is nice [12:19] nixternal / Riddell http://pastebin.ca/178014 <-- thats what the lug said just before they pinged me [12:19] what is the package name for smart? [12:19] heh [12:19] don't need to learn a new alphabet for spain [12:19] smartpm [12:19] imbrandon: ty [12:19] gnomefreak: smartpm? [12:19] oh lord imbrandon [12:19] i feel for you [12:19] gotta love it hehe === imbrandon hasent said anything in that channel yet [12:20] imbrandon: sounds like that lug needs some of your loving [12:20] i should join it and tell them at imbrandon can do it for you ;) [12:20] he is online, and hiding from you all ;) [12:20] i figured apt-cache search smart would have given me that but it doesnt :( [12:20] nixternal: Nevermind, it really sucked ;-) [12:20] nixternal: someone already did, thats why they pinged me [12:20] no way sebas, greece owns! [12:20] Riddell: for sure heheh i just hate oo.o ;) [12:20] oo.o is good [12:21] good for windows, koffice ownz on linux ;) === gnomefreak still getting used to koffice [12:21] koffice is nice, but our fellow windows/office users don't think so [12:21] ohhh speaking of koffice Riddell i tried on my ppc too i dont think its my setup its something i'm not doing right or something [12:22] imbrandon: koffice doesn't install on ppc just now [12:22] heh that would explain it === imbrandon got koffice to install on osx native ;) [12:23] woot [12:23] kinda broke but insatlls and runs ;) [12:24] imbrandon: how did *86 build? before i try it [12:24] gnomefreak: i havent gotten very far, i was having autoconf issues before lunch and i havent resumed since [12:24] ah [12:26] ok, uploaded kicker thing, I'm off to bed [12:26] sleep well Riddell [12:26] thanks === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@d51A482FD.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@d51A482FD.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:48] Riddell: yep, for a few minutes [12:48] heh === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@d51A482FD.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:49] Riddell: some problem? === mdz [n=mdz@studiocity-motorola-bsr1-70-36-194-85.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Viper550 [n=Viper550@d57-121-167.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@221.221.160.156] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:44] ooh, look at that... new kernel AND new freebsd beta release.... === jdong has his night planned out === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.230.210] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@wsip-70-168-186-68.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Riddell [i=jr@muse.19inch.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sivang [i=sivan@muse.19inch.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:56] Heya === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-056-231-253.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@wsip-70-168-186-68.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [i=user@69-87-142-200.async.iserv.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-056-231-253.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ryanakca faints... my backup of /etc with all my mailserver configuration and all that fun stuff is corrupt... === ryanakca curses himself for having run a fresh install without having MD5SUM'd his backups first [03:39] ouch === ryanakca will be having fun tommorow night... it took me a week to get postfix + courier + spamassassin working together... [03:40] I just hope I can figure out how it was setup... [03:40] meh [03:40] I complain too much [03:41] ryanakca: no you don't ... I do [03:41] lol [03:41] ryanakca: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuKDEMedia [03:41] join me in my complaints [03:41] under Feedback [03:42] Konqueror STILL doesn't have GMail support... === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:42] if it weren't for that fact, I'd use it as my web brower... but untill then.... FF it is :) [03:42] :) [03:42] I know [03:43] oooh... still don't have that unmounting dialog yet :S [03:44] and then theres the problem that there's not dialog in konversation... when you open a logfile... it looks as if konversation is frozen/hanging... but it's opening the logfile... and that can take up to 30 seconds... === ryanakca accidently Ctrl-Esc'ed it a few times... before I realised what was happening [03:47] ryanakca: changing konq.'s id doesnt help?(for gmail) [03:47] ryanakca: gmail works fine in my konqi, and the konversaiotn thing is knows to upstream ( as you are the one that pointed it out ) and is being fixed in 1.0.1 ( not for edgy ) [03:47] jdong , complaining isnt the correct term , its not constructive [03:48] positive criticism :D [03:48] imbrandon: I do try to be constructive in my criticism [03:48] ( and i did note to have that section ABOVE the patches section ;P ) [03:48] imbrandon: but I do have a particular passion with losing data to not syncing [03:48] imbrandon: and no, you never told me that [03:48] jdong: i dident say you wernt, i was talking about your use of the word "join me in complaining" [03:48] :0 [03:49] :) [03:49] jdong: at least I still have my ~/, /usr/local and /var archives :S === ryanakca heads off to bed [03:49] jdong: sure i did when i told you "we" police the that wiki page, dont make me dig up the log ;) [03:49] gnight ryanakca ;) [03:49] imbrandon: you told me that you police it [03:49] but you NEVER told me where to put the feedback section [03:49] !logs [03:49] Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs [03:49] imbrandon: before I forget... have a link to making a build farm thingy? [03:50] ryanakca: not really, i did it all from bits and pieces here and there [03:50] alot of learning and time [03:50] and questions and google [03:50] heh [03:50] imbrandon: mind writing a wiki :P === ryanakca watches the idea of a month long project go threw imbrandon's mind [03:50] hahah maybe after the dev summit i'll have time ;) === ryanakca stops procrastinating [03:51] What are the dates for the Mt. View thing? [03:52] imbrandon: beagle definitely says that you need to cut down on hallucinogen usage :) [03:52] jdong: look at the time 04:11 on page http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/kubuntu-devel-2006-09-18.html [03:53] ;) [03:53] bddebian: nov 05 to nov 10 [03:53] pssht [03:53] imbrandon: add a feedback section at the bottom just above the patches section i would say [03:53] see, the problem with that, is, don't say at the bottom first [03:53] my attention span is short :) [03:53] damnit, somehow I knew it would be at the beginning of November :'-( === jdong hangs head in shame [03:53] i know ;) [03:54] jdong: i told you dont make me dig the logs out , i knew i did ;) === jdong give imbrandon ubuntu-doc style rights to clobber his wiki page [03:54] bddebian: that bad ? [03:55] imbrandon: Means I can't go :'-( [03:55] ouch [03:55] and i was looking forward to bugging you irl ;) === imbrandon puts one last fix in amarok before the freeze [03:56] heh [03:56] I was REALLy hoping to go this time. Especially since it was in the US [03:57] bddebian: what is it keeping you from it ? [03:57] We are going live with Phase II of our ERP on either Nov 1 or Nov 7 and I know they won't let me take days off :-( [03:58] ouch, quit and work for canonical ;) [03:58] OK [03:58] Get me a job :-) === imbrandon is still waiting on the call from mark saying he wants a #2 for Riddell , hahahahaha like that will happen [03:59] ( as in for me ) [03:59] hehe [03:59] :-) [03:59] bddebian: if i could i would bro , you know it ;) === imbrandon always keeps an eye out on the w.u.c/emplyment page [04:00] too [04:00] hehe [04:03] I wouldn't be of much use to Canonical. I'm tenatious but stupid [04:03] heh [04:03] shush [04:03] you tought me to package ;) [04:04] Yeah right :-) [04:07] hrm diff the old file is first right ? [04:07] i cant never rember [04:10] Yes === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [i=user@69-87-142-200.async.iserv.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru_ [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.91.29] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:38] who is lilo? === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:38] the boot loader? === poningru_ [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [i=user@69-87-142-200.async.iserv.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seth [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:31] Riddell: poke [05:33] ubshmehan uba hugana [05:39] Hobbsee: he said he was heading to sleepy by [05:40] although that was ~5 hours ago hehe [05:40] he might wake soonish ;) [05:41] nixternal: ping [05:43] imbrandon: yeah, thought he might have [05:44] so hows it goin ... === imbrandon finaly decided to update his resume and such, well kinda, still needs some work [05:44] and uploaded another amarok fix [05:45] before the freeze [05:45] Hobbsee: you messed with writely ? man it works [05:45] imbrandon: writely? nope [05:45] well, i'm very surprised with it , its good enough for my limited word processing [05:46] writely is googles online word processor , and you can publish and invite others to edit too [05:46] or just keep them private etc [05:46] very nice, works as well as oo.o or koffice afaik [05:47] ahhhh.... [05:47] nice :) [05:47] so now they have a word processor and a spead sheet apps online [05:47] thats enough for me not to need an office suite , and i'm sure many others like me that only rarely use it [05:47] hell even people that use it alot [05:48] kinda nice being able to edit it from anywhere and save in TONS of formats [05:48] etc etc etc [05:48] nice :) [05:48] hrm i might blog about it === Hobbsee uses kate. [05:48] hehe [05:48] do you have a gmail account ? [05:52] yes [05:52] of course :P [05:52] where do you think my @u.c and @k.o point to? [05:52] ahh then you already have an account, play with it a minute, you'll like it i bet [05:52] http://www.writely.com [05:53] okay [05:53] hehe [05:53] you can even email-in documents etc, its very slick, i think i'm gonna start using it alot more [05:54] i use all the other google services , hell why not ;) [05:54] heh [05:55] i'm sure it will be supported by google ad's at some point but atm theres not even ads [05:55] even so googe ad's arent that bad [05:57] and it says they dont "officialy" support linux but seems to work great [05:57] i havent found anything that dosent work yet [05:58] yay :) [06:04] mac on linux finally works well, execept for the keyboard maps. yay! [06:05] robotgeek: heh yea i need to update it with the latest bootx though so it will boot 10.4 [06:05] without the extra download [06:05] i did not require the latest bootx, it worked fine without it too [06:05] 10.4 ? [06:06] 10.3.9 and below dont need it [06:06] i have tiger [06:06] tiger == 10.4 [06:06] hey robotgeek [06:06] hum , thats strange [06:06] you using the one from our repos ? [06:07] hey Hobbsee [06:07] yes, directly from reppos [06:07] wow , ok cool [06:08] i can now kill time on youtube directly from linux, yay [06:08] how is it going Hobbsee ? [06:08] i'm okay :) [06:08] plotting evil things as usual [06:08] world domination? [06:10] of course [06:10] starting with kubuntu [06:11] hmm, i gotta learn c++ now, yay (maybe) [06:13] dont remind me === Hobbsee should be doing her assignment === claydoh_ [n=clay@216-220-253-171.midmaine.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:26] Tonio_: https://launchpad.net/bugs/59504 [06:26] Malone bug 59504 in kdebase "Language packs broken in kde applications menus" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] [06:26] probably worth looking at === yuriy_ [n=yuriy@dhcp-129-64-153-71.dorm.brandeis.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:54] imbrandon: gone to bed yet? [06:56] imbrandon: pong? [06:57] hiya Hobbsee! [06:57] heya === clay_doh [n=clay@66.252.46.77] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === insanekane [n=kane@202.83.34.69] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh_ [n=clay@216-220-245-161.midmaine.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:06] see those of you going to akademy there === seaLne -> dublin [08:21] i will be in canada, is that close? [08:21] ;) [08:21] i would love to be in dublin this time of year [08:21] mmm..the guiness is flowin' thick [08:25] <_Sime_> Tonio_: whooohooo! The media stuff in the packages works! thanks [08:27] <_Sime_> Riddell: Should lost+found be in /.hidden? === Starting logfile irclogs/kubuntu-devel.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel ! | Knot 3 Released | TODO: Gamin fixes at: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates | Merges at: http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | Buglist at https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuEdgyKnownProblems | We will miss you, lilo... === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by mornfall at Sat Sep 16 23:44:01 2006 === #kubuntu-devel [freenode-info] channel trolls and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-057-249-038.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee wonders why we ship such terrible defaults for konsole [09:27] Riddell: i have added dimap patch to kdepim [09:27] Riddell: http://fboudra.free.fr/ubuntu/kdepim_4:3.5.4-0ubuntu5/ [09:30] Hobbsee: i asked a sync for a package, was synced. New debian package uploaded, i asked another sync or could i re-open same LP bug + comments ... ? [09:30] fabo: you could. what was the package? [09:31] clucene/strigi suite === Hobbsee would just use the request-sync script again :P [09:31] either works [09:31] ok nice === Hobbsee considers merging azureus [09:32] Hobbsee: about synaptic bug, a asked a backport to resolve definitely 3406 [09:33] s/a/i [09:33] i couldnt even get it to work on edgy === Hobbsee nods [09:33] ? [09:33] i'll take a look === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:50] Hobbsee: could you confirm 54939 and 61605 please :) [09:50] bug 54939 [09:50] Malone bug 54939 in Ubuntu "Edgy MoM] Please sync libclucene0 and libclucene-dev from sid" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/54939 [09:50] bug 61605 [09:50] Malone bug 61605 in strigi "Please sync strigi and strigiapplet" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61605 [09:51] fabo: the unstable version builds and installs fine in edgy? [09:52] Hobbsee: yes [09:52] cool === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm61.omega22.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:52] done [09:53] thanks [10:07] Hobbsee: same for 60030 :) [10:07] bug 60030 [10:07] Malone bug 60030 in icecc "icecc sync with the last debian version" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/60030 [10:09] fabo: that also builds and installs okay? [10:10] Hobbsee: Riddell already built it, so yes. [10:10] right [10:10] this is SYNC day ;) [10:13] hehe [10:27] bah hobbsee come back :) [10:51] hello === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.229.72] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@94.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:03] hello Tonio_ [11:06] hey fabo [11:06] did someone revu transkode ? === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:10] _Sime_: yeah everything works except /media/cdrom0 is still empty here... [11:10] _Sime_: that the only problem I can find [11:15] _Sime_: appart from that, GREAT work === el [n=konversa@port-83-236-238-37.static.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:18] Tonio_: unfortuntely, i wasn't able to upload it to revu [11:18] hi el [11:18] fabo: ah ? [11:18] what is the issue ? [11:18] fabo: gimme the source package and I'll upload for you [11:19] and I will revu of course [11:19] moin Tonio_ :) === Tonio_ takes a tea in his so cute kubuntu mug :) [11:21] fabo: any place I can download your package ? [11:31] Tonio_: http://fboudra.free.fr/ubuntu/transkode_0.6b2-0ubuntu1/ [11:31] sorry i'm on the phone in the same me [11:32] _Sime_: why shouldn't lost+found be in .hidden? [11:32] fabo: great, I'm checking and uploading [11:34] fabo: cool packaging, now building :) [11:34] hi Riddell [11:34] bonjour Tonio_ [11:35] crimsun: thanks for report update ;) why not confirm in the same time [11:35] hum, the new windeco is better than the previous one... looks somehow more professionnal [11:36] Riddell: just though about edgy+1, I'll probably spend time on samba integration with kde... [11:36] bouh hobbsee hides ;) someone could confirm 61609 and 61611 please [11:36] Riddell: it is not very convenient to get the thigs working currently [11:36] things can be done I think [11:37] fabo: what happens with your revu account ? [11:38] Tonio_: what you mean there's problem ? [11:39] Tonio_: someone already uploads transkode 0.5b, maybe it is the problem [11:39] fabo: I don't think so, the upload should have been overwritten [11:39] fabo: I'll try to upload if the build is nice [11:39] Tonio_: great idea [11:40] unfortunately with dput, we didn't received any error [11:40] Riddell: well I had to play with samba recently and I found everything needs to be configured... [11:40] Riddell: probably a spec on the UDS will be a good starting point [11:40] Riddell: I just hope I'll be sponsored ;) [11:40] I'm still waiting [11:40] Riddell: you see my ping about kdepim ? [11:42] fabo: may I just had 1 patch for rosetta ? [11:42] in case you missed ;) http://fboudra.free.fr/ubuntu/kdepim_4:3.5.4-0ubuntu5/ [11:42] fabo: it's missing ;) [11:42] :) [11:43] time to play football :) then i need to prepare my travel to akademy ;) [11:43] fabo: wow you did all those patches ? :) [11:43] I'm impressed :) [11:43] see you later :)= [11:43] fabo: ++ [11:47] fabo: no, what's changed? [11:58] fabo: where is that patch from? http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104956 ? [11:58] KDE bug 104956 in disconnected IMAP "dimap: sudden mail loss" [Critical,New] === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato_ [n=jucato@124.106.183.152] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:20] <_Sime_> Riddell: my point was that lost_found probably should be in .hidden, but it isn't now (for me). [12:20] _Sime_: ah, I'll add it then [12:27] imbrandon: ping ? [12:27] _Sime_: hey :) [12:27] <_Sime_> hi [12:28] <_Sime_> I need to add a couple of known issues to the wiki. [12:30] _Sime_: the point is the work looks very usable now ;) === oofus [n=chris@oofus.demon.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:30] still has a few issues indeed [12:34] <_Sime_> like if you log out and then in again, you won't see any removable disks. (They get unmount at logout, but not automatically mounted again during login). [12:34] <_Sime_> it would also be nice if we could use the disk label in more places, like what media:/ does for the names of things. [12:35] <_Sime_> instead of "cdrewriter", the label "cdrewriter (Quake 4)" might be better in kicker and on the desktop. [12:36] _Sime_: I think other ext3 partitions are also unmounted at logout? not sure if it was fixed in knot 3 [12:36] _Sime_: are you coming to akademy? [12:38] <_Sime_> Riddell: nope, I will be at home sulking during akademy. :-/ [12:38] <_Sime_> I don't have the vacation time over for that. Well not this year anyway. [12:39] <_Sime_> Jucato_: I don't know if taht is true. I thought that the auto-unmounting stuff was only for pmounted media. [12:40] <_Sime_> Jucato_: or stuff taht was mounted as "user". [12:40] _Sime_: I haven't changed the default fstab that was installed in knot 2 [12:40] <_Sime_> Jucato_: actually I would really like to know what bit actually does the unmounting at logout. === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:41] the strange thing is that my FAT32 and NTFS partitions weren't unmounted when I logged back in [12:44] <_Sime_> Jucato_: yes, but were those partitions mounted using the "pmount" command or via KDE? [12:44] <_Sime_> Jucato_: and mounted with the "user" ooption? [12:45] _Sime_: I didn't manually mount them. I didn't change anything in fstab ever since I installed Knot 2 [12:55] <_Sime_> Jucato_: I dunno what is going on there. 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I got my sound working on my own :p [02:09] kwwii: cool, how did you do that? [02:10] unmute? *hides* [02:10] i know i'm a terrible person === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.229.72] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:10] lol === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-057-249-038.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:13] Riddell: just added the kernel module :-) [02:13] mornfall: I am an artist, but not that stupid :p [02:14] *blink* i know dude, don't take me too seriously :) [02:14] snd_powermac or whatever reason was not being loaded on my machine [02:14] mornfall: you? I *never* take you seriously :-) [02:15] lol [02:15] Riddell: hi, any news about the package? [02:15] :-) [02:15] andrunko: I e-mailed you [02:15] well, I guessed the address :) [02:15] andrunko: but the binary packages should be renamed to match the SO name [02:15] so it should be libqttelepathy0 and libqttelepathy-dev [02:16] hmm i see [02:17] Riddell: andrunko@gmail.com? i didn't receive anything, let me check the spams :D [02:18] Riddell: do you think it's ok to rename the binaries and keep the package name telepathy-qt or should i rename the package name also [02:20] andrunko: yes that's fine === zorglu_ [n=zorglub@134.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:27] Riddell: the so name is libQtTelepathy so the package should be libQtTelepathy0 and libQtTelepathy-dev? [02:27] Riddell: W: libqttelepathy0: package-name-doesnt-match-sonames libQtTelepathy0 [02:27] q. konqueror 3.5.2, as shipped in the 6.06.1 cd, doesnt contains the menu "Setting -> Configure Spell Checker" and have the spell checker on by default, how can i disable it ? is the menu somewhere else ? [02:28] andrunko: can't have capital letters in a package name, just do it lower case [02:28] zorglu_: in system setttings? [02:29] Riddell: system setting -> kde components -> spell checker but it has nothing checked or anything [02:30] zorglu_: I don't know how to turn off konqueror's auto spell check in textareas, that's somewhere else [02:31] from #kde people, it is supposed to be in "Setting -> Configure Spell Checker" but the menu is not in the version shipped by kubuntu [02:32] ok i will go on to look, but this make it hard/painfull to use stuff like wikipedia :) [02:32] zorglu_: try KControl [02:33] Configure Spell Checker just brings up the kcontrol module [02:33] KControl > KDE Components > Spell Checker [02:33] i got this page and nothing is checked on it [02:34] nor do i see any option to disable it === zorglu_ [n=zorglub@134.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [02:36] < Riddell> fabo: no, what's changed? [02:37] Riddell: i extracted the patch applied to the branch by till adam [02:37] fabo: I uploaded transkode to revu and advocated it.... need to find one more reviewer [02:39] Riddell: updated http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~telepathy/telepathy-qt/ubuntu. should be ok now [02:39] Riddell: second Tonio_ please :) [02:40] fabo: ok, cool [02:40] andrunko: nothing has changed in that archive [02:41] Tonio_: have you a clue why i wasn't able to upload to revu ? [02:42] fabo: yes, a broken previous upload was in the queue... [02:42] fabo: needed revu admin to purge the upload which raphink did [02:42] fabo: is this patch also in debian? presumbaly not since debian will do a straight branch pull === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:46] Riddell: it is included in the branch pull [02:47] fabo: yep, I'll rename the patch to be kubuntu_xx then [02:47] fabo: uploading [02:48] Tonio_: ok [02:48] Riddell: thks [02:48] fabo: uploaded, many thanks [02:49] someone could confirm 61609 and 61611 please :) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:49] Hobbsee!!! [02:50] hey Jucato_ [02:52] fabo: done, you should attach the debian changelog to 61611 [02:52] and subscribe ubuntu-archive of course [02:53] hey Riddell [02:53] morning Hobbsee [02:53] Riddell: i was going to bug you about adding kde-guidance-powermanager as a dep of kubuntu-desktop [02:53] Hobbsee: done [02:53] or at least as a recommends [02:53] oh cool :) [02:53] it hadnt as of this afternoon :) === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:55] Hobbsee: seen the new artwork? [02:55] kwwii: nope [02:55] kwwii: what's it look like? [02:55] shiny [02:55] new artwork??? [02:56] shinyyy [02:56] just when I was getting used to the bluish-purple one... @_@ [02:56] hehe, it is still blue-purple [02:56] but now it is shiny blue-purple [02:56] :p [02:56] hehe [02:56] is it now available if I update? [02:56] I think so === Jucato_ updates... [02:58] kwwii: ooh, which bits? [02:58] kwwii: usplash, or what? === apokryp3 [n=apokryph@host-87-74-35-138.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:59] Hobbsee: the wallpaper is tweaked and the window deco's are pretty much new [03:00] kwwii: nice - so i should grab the source for the windeco, i guess [03:00] kwwii: it's got a new name so i can import? === Hobbsee has changed windecos === gnomefreak pissed at usplash [03:01] Hobbsee: it is the kubuntu theme in kwincystal [03:02] fabo: do you have the sources to icemon? === Hobbsee grabs it [03:04] Riddell: http://fboudra.free.fr/debian/icecc-monitor_1.1-1/ [03:04] perfect, thanks [03:05] ooh...shiny... === Jucato_ [n=jucato@124.106.183.152] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:08] Riddell: i have 2 special case -> kaffeine and kmplayer, their naming scheme diverge from Debian [03:08] kwwii: got a screenshot, by any chance? [03:08] oooh shiny... [03:09] Riddell: keep ubuntu naming and update ? or prepare a transition to Debian naming [03:09] yay! at last a consistent login-ksplash screen :) [03:11] Jucato_: yes, kwwii work kickass, really :) [03:11] or Jucato_, Tonio_ ? [03:11] oh screw it === Hobbsee mv .kde/ out of the way [03:11] you don't have to convince me of that :) [03:11] heh [03:11] Hobbsee: you didn't see it ? [03:11] one second, screen coming [03:11] arf, too slow on the keyboard.... [03:11] she used a different windeco [03:12] is the wallpaper different, too? [03:12] fabo: what's diverged? [03:12] looks slightly the same... [03:12] Riddell: strange, i just checked and it's there [03:12] https://launchpad.net/people/telepathy/+branch/telepathy-qt/ubuntu [03:12] revision 10 [03:14] the Kubuntu buttons for the window deco looks very different... very nice === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:15] i definitely like this new window deco better :) [03:15] Hobbsee: are you seeing it now? [03:15] andrunko: yep, got it now [03:16] :) [03:16] Riddell: kaffeine source gives kaffeine and kaffeine-dbg package under Debian, kaffeine and kaffeine-xine under ubuntu [03:16] kwwii: wow :) === Hobbsee winces at what she just did [03:16] Jucato_: i was [03:16] Jucato_: i'm back to normal now === Hobbsee continues to shudder [03:16] lol [03:16] Jucato_: i used the "very bad hack, dont do this" way of getting a new profile/ [03:16] aka sudo -i && startx [03:17] which did what i wanted, but still. [03:17] baaad kangaroo :P [03:17] hehe [03:18] fabo: that's from when we were using the gstreamer kaffeine part by default. we can merge it with debian but not until after edgy is out [03:18] Riddell: ok [03:18] Jucato_: What's the new window deco look like ? Not sure I'm seeing it [03:18] fabo: and kmplayer is split so we can install only the kpart plugin [03:19] it looks pretty, and the new buttons are better IMHO [03:19] fabo: under debian it is called kmplayer-plugin [03:19] hmmm...i'm not sure if i saw the new buttons [03:19] Jucato_: screenshot? [03:19] ok hold on :) [03:19] Jucato_: This in an update today possibly ? === Hobbsee has never mastered xnest [03:19] yes just a few minutes ago, I think [03:20] andrunko: looks great, I'll upLoad [03:20] Riddell: nice :), tnx [03:20] Jucato_: Ah ok. I'm updating the vmware edgy install now [03:20] Riddell: anyway it will be nice to have these packages updated [03:21] Anyone know when the fixed flashplugin-nonfree package will be released ? === haggai [n=halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:21] Riddell: jpatrick could do it ? [03:21] Hawkwind: i believe that's up to the backporters [03:21] Hawkwind: ask jdong, it's his fault anyway :P [03:22] Ohhhh, bad jdong, no cookie for j00! [03:22] fabo: updated in which way [03:22] ? [03:22] ugh! why is my internet connection suddenly so sloooow... [03:22] Jucato_: The tubes are full :) [03:23] heh [03:23] it's seriously crawling... [03:23] kwwii: errr....either i havent put this in right, or the background window looks a little weird - the non-purple one. === Hobbsee waits for the screenshot [03:23] Riddell: keep ubuntu naming, update kaffeine to 0.8.2 and kmplayer to 0.9.3. We'll see the merge for edgy+1 [03:24] Is there a decided name for the release after Edgy yet, or when does that get decided ? [03:24] fabo: sounds good, you'd need to do an upstream version freeze exception request, and no new features will be allowed [03:24] Hobbsee: wait a bit longer... I don't know what's slowing down my connection... [03:25] its your porn downloads [03:25] kwwii: the windowdecotest_new3.png for the inactive window overlay seems to look better, at least here - you may want to check that out [03:25] Riddell: ok === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:25] kwwii: the more I look at this kicker background the more it just looks like a stripe through the middle [03:26] hehe [03:26] yes, and? [03:26] heh [03:26] Hmmm, window deco looks the same here too [03:26] Heya [03:27] hi bddebian [03:27] Heya Hobbsee [03:27] Hey there bddebian === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:27] Hi Hawkwind === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm61.omega22.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:27] hi bddebian [03:27] Jucato_: I think you're seeing things :P [03:27] hi abattoir [03:27] Hello Jucato_ [03:28] abattoir: Good morning [03:28] hi abattoir === Jucato_ wonders if we === Jucato_ wonders if we'll ever go beyond [03:28] "hi" [03:28] gah! s2pd fingers! [03:28] Hi, Hobbsee, Hawkwind, Jucato_ :D [03:28] http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i206/jucato/screenshots/new_windeco.png [03:29] hmm...new konq buttons... [03:29] muhahahaha [03:29] the buttons look cool [03:29] another victim [03:30] I'm seeing that win deco too, but I guess I don't remember what the old one looked like :P [03:30] what is the theme name for that? [03:30] it's Konqueror (with the new windeco) displaying a shot of Konqueror with the old windeco [03:30] so you could compare : [03:30] :P [03:30] how do i kill konq to make it grab the new icons? [03:30] oh those aren't new icons [03:30] I mean, not new Crystal SVG icons [03:31] there are new Crystal SVG icons? === Jucato_ forgot to revert to default icon theme [03:31] abattoir: of course none :P [03:31] ahhh... [03:31] Jucato_: aah, ok :) [03:31] sorry, my son needed help with his homework [03:32] kwwii: the windeco gradient and the buttons look cool :) [03:32] kwwii: you rock! you are officially my new favorite artist! (replacing ev____o) [03:32] lol [03:32] Hobbsee: so you like the softer highlight [03:32] what theme is this? [03:32] gnomefreak: the windeco is crystal [03:32] Hobbsee: I spent a lot of time trying to decide which one [03:32] (unless it has been changed) [03:32] kwwii: i love what you've done, with the active window [03:33] however, it really does look like a grey line thru the middle for the inactive [03:33] it's Crystal windeco with new Kubuntu buttons [03:33] kwwii: the active one absolutely rocks, and it's making me wonder if i inherited a nice graphics card somehow by accident [03:33] crystal svg or clear? [03:33] ;-) [03:33] gnomefreak: ah the icon set? [03:33] yes to start [03:33] kwwii: want a screenshot of what i'm thinking? [03:33] I was kinda worried about making such a big change but it seems people like it [03:34] it's gorgeous :) [03:34] kwwii: you like making big changes don't yah? :P [03:34] gnomefreak: oxygen [03:35] Hobbsee: I was actually using the 3b.png on the inactive window on my system, but thought I should only include one [03:35] you got it from kde-look.org? [03:35] the kubuntu-panel.png looks a bit.. weird, though [03:35] gnomefreak: nope. svn. [03:35] oxygen icons are not in kde that i can see [03:36] gnomefreak: oxygen will be KDE 4's new icon set [03:36] gnomefreak: they are in playground/artwork [03:36] k [03:36] it should be moving into kde4 sometime soon [03:36] hopefully very soon :P [03:36] perhaps shortly after akademy [03:36] kwwii: http://buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/snapshot1.png [03:36] to me, that looks prettier [03:38] kwwii: specifically the gradients stuff - although i do prefer my close buttons on the side :P [03:38] Hobbsee: is that the default kicker bg as well? [03:38] abattoir: no, that's transparent, to go with my desktop background [03:39] Hobbsee: oh, ok, thanks [03:39] the kubuntu-panel.png looks like it's split into two colors, not a gradient effect. i don't know if that's intended.. [03:39] i'd guess so [03:40] it does look rather weird with anything but the default background, yes [03:40] anyone with a screeny? :) [03:40] mornfall: of? [03:40] ugh this is hopeless... I'm booting back into Dapper. :P [03:40] hah [03:40] Hobbsee: default panel [03:40] but dapper's so sold :P [03:40] sold or old? :) [03:41] does it get colourized or what? [03:41] Hobbsee: for some odd reason, my internet connection is crawling... I'm going to check if it's the same in Dapper [03:41] ahhh [03:41] err.... colorized doesn't look good [03:41] yeah === Hobbsee screenshots [03:41] heh bye :P === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@ubuntu/member/ajmitch] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:42] http://buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/snapshot2.png [03:42] mornfall: ^ [03:42] quoth the server, 404 [03:42] s/sold/old/ thanks mornfall [03:42] haha, right [03:42] Hobbsee: you prefer simpler buttons, it seems [03:43] oh, it's waiting on a password, dont mind me [03:43] ye gods [03:43] kwwii: true. i'm not pushing for that change - i'm more meaning the gradients [03:43] i just think those buttons look pretty [03:43] my konq went all weird [03:43] mornfall: i may have it wrong - i picked at the sources [03:43] snapshot2.png 100% 700KB 18.4KB/s 00:38 [03:43] now try [03:44] it got mimetype right now [03:44] oh, the panel looks fine :-) === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Apatosaur [n=apatosau@196.35.140.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:45] oh, the stuff down the side is my computing assignment, if anyone was wondering === Apatosaur [n=apatosau@196.35.140.226] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [03:45] polyester look is all the craze these days, ain't it? :) [03:45] mornfall: yes and no - that's polyester, with crystal buttons. [03:45] kinda weird :P [03:46] i mean the lighting style [03:46] ah yes [03:46] mornfall: where polyester == shiny, yes === mornfall still goes with his ultra-flat style :) [03:46] heh [03:46] mornfall: i'm a girl, remember :P [03:46] just solid grey fills with black lines [03:46] i like shiny :P [03:46] :-) [03:47] talking about girls "An honest smile outshines all the jewelry of the world." [03:47] I think we have reached almost the full saturation of bling [03:47] good, because i never wear much jewelry :P [03:48] kwwii: probably. if you do too much more, it may look vista-esque [03:48] oh [03:48] i forgot about vista [03:48] that one's shiny too, eh? [03:48] which, as a mac user, would be boring [03:48] that looks horrific with all the transparencies, last i saw [03:49] you are entitled to transparency torture only if you have powerful gfx card -- which i don't, not to say i don't have vista :] [03:50] oh lovely. so i'll never have it :P [03:51] now if we could all work together and make new about, app start, and help pages! [03:51] Riddell: poke in #kubuntu [03:53] someone's been borking my fn-keys === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:56] kmilo isnt running. i wonder why not [03:57] how do you know? [03:57] i'm guessing, via ps aux [03:57] how do i go about debugging it? [03:58] it's not a process, it's part of kded [03:58] ahhh [03:58] how do i figure otu what's gone wrong then? [03:58] apart from "iv'e killed something bad" === Jucato_ [n=jucato@210.5.108.40] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@adsl-144-142-234.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:08] right, it [04:08] s' just my system going nuts [04:08] what'd i miss? [04:08] nothing [04:08] a lot of silence, I think [04:08] okay === Hobbsee had her machine hard-locking again [04:08] it seems to like doing that [04:09] coz it loves you sooo much :) [04:09] hehe [04:09] sure it does [04:10] Riddell: you spoke to the guy in #kubuntu ? [04:10] yep [04:11] cool :) [04:11] what guy? what happened? dang I missed out on the fun again... [04:12] Jucato_: someone interested in a 'donation' [04:12] ooh donating to Kubuntu? [04:13] 7es [04:13] yes [04:13] nice [04:15] i cant spell, clearly [04:15] your fingers love you too soooo much :) [04:16] i'll blame it on the finger i broke a while ago. [04:16] ouch... [04:16] a very *long* while ago, but i'll blame it on that anyway :P [04:16] ah === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:19] time for bed === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-057-249-038.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:23] bed? its 4.24pm [04:24] she's in australia, it's 12:25am === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-057-249-038.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:35] imbrandon: ping ? [04:35] Tonio_: pong [04:35] imbrandon: I jsut found the dapper mysql version has a bug.... [04:35] imbrandon: MySQL Error : Lost connection to MySQL server during query [04:36] I get this on certain queries, then I just have to relaunch them and it is okay [04:36] imbrandon: tried a backport and the problem is resolved... [04:36] imbrandon: shouldn't we backport this with proftpd ? [04:37] hrm lemme try to build it and see what the deps are, becouse AOLT ot things depend on mysql [04:37] alot* [04:38] imbrandon: heh....... [04:38] oh wow that would be like 10 packages, what mysql are you talking aobut 4.x or 5.x ? both are in dapper [04:39] imbrandon: Version: 5.0.21-3ubuntu1 [04:39] this package [04:39] backporting 5.0.22 is okay [04:40] imbrandon: should impact anything [04:40] imbrandon: the error hasn't been reported to launchpad, but there are lots of threads on the net talking about that issue [04:40] well all the support packages would have to go along with it too i would think, i dunno, lemme finish breakfast then i'll ask arround [04:40] it doesn't work for some people for some unknown reason [04:40] imbrandon: yes, okay [04:41] hum, that would mean backporting all packages compiled with mysql-dev.... [04:41] I can understand the point [04:41] yea ..... [04:41] probably isnt doable but i'll check [04:41] imbrandon: http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=46800 [04:41] here is an example of discussion about that problem [04:42] the guy just had this when he migrated to edgy [04:42] nixternal: how are the docs looking? [04:42] imbrandon: and concerning proftpd ? [04:42] filing it now, i just did a few other ones too this morning, kamoin wont get to them untill tomarrow though [04:43] moins Riddell [04:43] imbrandon: okay :) [04:43] Riddell: they look pretty good I think. YOu want to look over them quickly before you build them? [04:43] imbrandon: the point is that such a bug is really annoying on a LTS version ;) [04:43] imbrandon: you pinged me last night...anything important? [04:43] especially since the server part is supposed to be supported for 5 years [04:45] nixternal: yes, I will do, thanks [04:45] nixternal: i cant rember why heh [04:45] probably not [04:45] Tonio_: yes very, but they only do the archive stuff on tue and friday iirc , well mostly , so it will get done , just might be a few days [04:46] yea but thats for security and updates , backports isnt supported ;( [04:46] imbrandon: heh, I was talking about mysql here, not proftpd :) [04:46] yea i know [04:46] ah okay ;) [04:47] it looks like socket connections are working, but you get sometimes timeouts on tcp requests... [04:47] this is why it doesn't impact lots of people === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:48] imbrandon: http://www.google.fr/search?hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=5.0.21+MySQL+Error+%3A+Lost+connection+to+MySQL+server+during+query&btnG=Rechercher&meta= [04:48] hehe, looks like the bugs is widely known.... I'm just surprised none reported it to launchpad [04:48] imbrandon: I'll report it [04:48] yea i dont doubt the bug Tonio_ i just dont know if a backport of such a large package is feasible [04:49] imbrandon: of course, sounds logic :) [04:49] kinda like backporting kde 3.5.5 to dapper ;) [04:49] hehehe [04:49] hehe ;) === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm61.omega22.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:52] kwwii: about? meeting in 10 mins [04:52] Riddell: yepp, thanks for the reminder [04:55] imbrandon: wait....... it looks like a possible vbulletin bug, not mysql....... interesting [04:55] imbrandon: I get the information from mysql bts [04:55] ;) === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === akademylogger [n=me@N788P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato_ [n=jucato@58.69.16.189] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:14] imbrandon / Tonio_, please don't backport mysql.... :) [05:14] jdong: we know this [05:14] was already discussed ;) [05:14] k, I caught just a glimpse of that discussion [05:15] remember, short attention span? ;) [05:15] heh... yeah, as proven by some *-plugin... :P === Jucato ducks [05:16] jdong don't mind we were just discussing about that, but it looks like my problem is vbulletin crashing with mysql 5.0.21 [05:16] not mysql itself ;) === jdong whacks Jucato [05:16] Jucato: it's not like the original dapper packages work anymore anyway :) [05:17] well, it was working a few days ago :P [05:18] Jucato: here it complains about upstream changes to the download site [05:18] presumably because of adobe's security update [05:18] heh [05:18] imbrandon: bug 61673, would a package name be helpful or enlightening? [05:18] Malone bug 61673 in dapper-backports "1.0-0ubuntu5 to dapper-backports" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61673 [05:19] hahah yea add konversation to that please ( this is one reason the old backport stucture worked well ) === jdong would personally like to see dapper-backports as a distribution [05:21] heh [05:21] that would cause many issues [05:21] anyhow busy atm bbiab [05:23] abattoir: seen #ubuntu-meeting? [05:23] 16:19 < Kamion> Riddell: yes, and I rearranged the code so he could slot in use of kwin or whatever, although I don't think I've seen a patch [05:23] from him yet that does that [05:23] Riddell: yes, i'm working on that... [05:24] great [05:24] Riddell: apparently to set a background you need to use QApplication.. which i think is a bit overkill [05:24] Riddell: maybe you can help me :P [05:24] background for what? [05:24] I'm in the distro meeting just now [05:25] Riddell: ok, sorry, i'll speak w/ you later [05:25] (unless i figure it out myself) === Kuhrscher [n=jannick@88.134.176.201] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:29] could you confirm 61691 ? [05:30] Riddell: am i supose to be pre-paring stuff for these meetings too ? heh i just thought about that [05:30] after reading about tkm.... [05:31] imbrandon: no, he got a contract with canonical [05:31] ahhh ok , whew === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-238-247.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:31] imbrandon: you can of course if you wish, but it's mostly useful for people with specs to implement [05:31] right ;) [05:31] maybe soonish but not this time ;) === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:39] imbrandon: confirmed, upgrading vbulletin resolves the issue.... sorry for bugging you... [05:39] Tonio_: no worries, its how we figure things out ;) [05:40] yup, true ;) === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:58] hum, I'm thinking about packaging eaccelerator.... would be nice to have this working by just installing a package === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:07] Tonio_: what's that? [06:07] Riddell: could you confirm 61691 ? :) [06:07] Riddell: php caching system [06:07] Riddell: it keeps a cache with precompiled scripts, dynamically [06:08] Riddell: it is much, much faster when you use it [06:08] Riddell: just a question ! [06:08] Tonio_: doesnt the zend engine already do that ? [06:08] imbrandon: it is much better than zend [06:08] ahh ;) [06:08] imbrandon: I just think it hasa licence issue :) [06:09] fabo: you need to add the debian changelog [06:09] Riddell, imbrandon: http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/12 isn't that gpl violation ? [06:09] that's the eaccelerator licence [06:09] imbrandon: benches report that eaccelerator is about 5 times faster than zend [06:10] Riddell: i've got a nice bug somewhere :) click save changes and nothing added ... [06:10] Tonio_: no [06:11] fabo: on what? [06:11] Riddell: changing is not allowed ? [06:11] is yakuake broken for everyone else too? [06:11] kwwii: works here [06:11] kwwii: !!! [06:11] Tonio_: not of the GPL text no [06:11] hi pygi === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm61.omega22.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:11] Riddell: on launchpad. i reloaded the page and have added the changelog [06:12] hi kwwii , long time no see :) [06:12] Riddell: ah... I never saw that line before.... hehe [06:12] pygi: yeah, it has been a while [06:13] Riddell: AH ! changing the licence document, not the software..... [06:13] Riddell: looks like I'm VERY tired.... === Tonio_ didn't sleep for 30 hours....... that may explain [06:13] okay let's go packaging then === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-238-247.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [06:14] fabo: confirmed [06:14] kwwii: tried to remove your ~/.kde/share/config/yakuakerc ? [06:14] thanks [06:15] Tonio_: yeah, that would be my next step [06:15] kwwii: let me know quick since I may go for a little sleep.... it looks like I'm not able to read english correctly now ;) [06:16] Tonio_: erm, there is no yakuakerc [06:16] kwwii: weird...... [06:16] what happens when you launch it ? [06:16] Riddell: are you free now? [06:16] funky [06:16] abattoir: no, 15 mins [06:16] Riddell: ok, thanks [06:16] I had one, I know, because I have to change the kex combo for it to work on my machine [06:17] kwwii: I now provide a yakuakerc in kds.... [06:17] maybe this has a problem with ppc machines ? === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:17] kwwii: what you can do is removing that file [06:18] Tonio_: the file does not exist, how can I remove it? [06:18] kwwii: /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/yakuakerc [06:18] ahhhh [06:18] this one :) [06:18] it works nicelly here, but maybe has an issue with mac computers [06:19] now it startts [06:19] removing that file helped === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:23] kwwii: could you track down which line in that file is the problem? [06:23] Riddell: yepp, after the meeting is over [06:23] Riddell: kubuntu-desktop is being obnoxious.... it only wants guidance power manager, and no longer accepts kpowersave as an alternative [06:24] And it's damn right to do so :-) [06:24] guidance power manager conflicts with kpowersave [06:24] I don't know if that's necessarily the right thing to do [06:24] Riddell: Jim Bublitz sent a possible fix for the KUniqueApplication problem, btw. [06:24] Didn't try it yet. [06:25] sebas: he also says he fixed konsole part support, so he's having a good day :) [06:25] The conflict has no technical reasons that I see, well maybe the brightness setting. [06:25] Yeah. [06:25] Riddell: the only line that is different from what is now in me .kde/share/config/yakuakerc file is "focus=false" [06:25] so set that to true [06:25] There was also some discussion whether to put pykde in kdesvn and develop it there, would be a good step IMO. [06:25] sebas: +1 [06:26] Hooray! [06:28] Riddell: funky, when I change my local file to focus=false it still works fine [06:30] Riddell: yes, powermanager should conflict kpowersave, but kubuntu-desktop shouldn't uninstall if I decide to go with kpowersave [06:31] Riddell: installing kpowersave should remove guidance-pm, but preserve kubuntu-desktop [06:31] Then you'd need a pm metapackage. [06:31] no, I'll make it a recommends [06:31] Problem is that you lose a lot of stuff if you uninstall g-o-m [06:31] p that is. [06:31] It's the whole guidance package [06:33] sebas: no, I split it [06:33] fabo: ^^ might want to look at merging that into debian [06:35] Riddell: forget my yakuake problems, I cannot reproduce them so it must have just been a wierd glithc [06:35] glitch [06:36] Riddell: Ah, ok. [06:36] Riddell: ok, i must prepare an updated package for Debian and put it in unstable. [06:39] abattoir: hi, what can I do? [06:40] Riddell: when oem-config runs at first boot, i need to set /usr/share/wallpapers/kubuntu-wallpaper.png as the background for the Xsession [06:40] Riddell: Kamion currently does it using gtk [06:40] Riddell: if i were to use qt, i'd need to initialise a QApplication(to use QPaintDevice and QPixmap)... [06:41] Riddell: is that necessary? or would something like xsetroot do? [06:41] (but xsetroot apparently doesnt support png) [06:41] xsetroot was what I was thinking of [06:41] but not supporting png is quite an issue [06:42] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24258 is the gtk code [06:42] self.background refers to the path of the image(and kindly ignore the indenting) [06:47] I don't think you can do the same with QDesktopWidget [06:48] i think QPaintDevice.x11AppRootWindow might help, but as i said, i'd need a QApplication, and wouldnt that be a bit overkill for just setting a background? === inam [n=inam@59.144.37.15] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:49] kwwii: hum, that's weird...... means that the default config is not compatible with ppc computers ? [06:49] abattoir: I'd say leave it for now and just do "xsetroot -solid lightblue" [06:49] hi all... can someone help me... im looking for the source code of "cal" [06:49] Riddell: ok, i'll do that... [06:50] Riddell: thanks [06:50] or should it be purple :P [06:50] !cal [06:50] Sorry, I don't know anything about cal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [06:51] abattoir: ask kwwii :) [06:51] inam: dpkg -S /usr/bin/cal [06:51] inam: but that's a #kubuntu issue [06:51] inam: apt-get source bsdmainutils [06:52] Riddell, sorry for bothering... but i thot this is the space for developers and hence i should ask about source code locations here :) [06:52] thanks anyways ! [06:55] <_Sime_> sebas: when are you leaving for dublin? [06:58] Tonio_: no, I simply think that my system had some other problem at that exact moment [06:58] Tonio_: or it was a random error [06:58] Tonio_: as I cannot make it not work again [06:58] kwwii: ah.... [06:59] the purple color of the window deco is #6569ae, in case anyone wants to use that somewhere === apacheLAGger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === inam [n=inam@59.144.37.15] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [07:01] but it might be better to use one of the lighter blue colors from the wallpaper === Kuhrscher [n=jannick@88.134.176.201] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:01] hey...i want the cool usplash! i don't want to see the "test" one anymore [07:01] http://nixternal.ubuntu-rocks.org/blog/ <-- kwwii, #6569ae is my friend ;) [07:02] nixternal: it should be in [07:02] nixternal: lol [07:02] i gotta hack around on that more today [07:03] lemme reboot and see if i get the test usplash or the groovy one... [07:03] nixternal: perhaps we should work on the khelp center header stuff [07:03] yes..i shall return after this reboot...if i have a test usplash, im gonna hunt you down!! ;) [07:03] brb [07:03] nixternal: I will test some ideas and get in touch with you === kwwii takes a walk with his son [07:05] someone tell nixternal I will be back in an hour === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:07] 19:07 < kwwii> someone tell nixternal I will be back in an hour [07:07] that's CEST. 2mins ago. [07:09] thx [07:09] he got lucky ;) my usplash is still the testing one [07:09] anyone else having issues with "rebooting"? when I reboot, all that happens for me is my screen shuts off, and the computer locks..i have to "reset" every time === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm61.omega22.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm61.omega22.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:05] re === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["wth] === rouzic [n=rouzic@9.Red-88-10-208.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech [n=ubuntu@port0122-abg-s-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yuriy [n=yuriy@dhcp-129-64-153-13.dorm.brandeis.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:30] wheeee [08:30] Riddell: so tomorrow is the deadline for including things in the beta? [08:32] kwwii: i think soo, from what they said in the u-devel earlier [08:32] early tomarrow sometime it looks like [08:33] well, then I better get cracking on the usplash [08:33] imbrandon: thanks for packaging that stuff yesterday, I appreciate it [08:34] np kwwii anytime [08:34] just poke me if you ever need something thrown up and i'm arround [08:34] i like doing yours anyhow that way i get a sneek peek ;) [08:35] hehe [08:36] hrm new stargate torrent finish, gonna watch that, if anyone needs me hilight my name so it beeps at me [08:36] enjoy === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["wth] === akademylogger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:52] kwwii: whats up with the images for khelpcenter? [08:52] also, anyone in here can do some doc proofing before we build it, that would be great! [08:57] nixternal: I will try to make a new design based on the config of the old one [08:57] cool [08:58] we are good string wise, so there isn't a huge rush, unless Riddell says different [08:59] is there something i can do to get the "pretty" usplash working, and not the test one? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:02] nixternal: for me it worked after putting the right sesolution in the config file [09:04] # Usplash configuration file [09:04] xres=640 [09:04] yres=480 [09:04] man i love the /cmd with konversation [09:04] change it :) [09:04] to what [09:05] 800x600 [09:05] 1024x768 [09:05] k..lemme try that [09:05] let me check on that [09:05] lol [09:05] xres=1024 [09:05] yres=768 [09:05] anything else i have to do after changing it? [09:06] update-initramfs -u [09:06] after you save it run sudo update-initramfs - [09:06] u [09:06] yes that [09:07] gnomefreak: any idea if it supports widescreen resolutions?(1280x800) ? [09:07] and poof done. if you want the text take quite out of the boot options in /grub/menu.lst [09:07] reboot [09:07] abattoir: i dont think it does. (i beilieve i saw that it was an issue) [09:07] gnomefreak: aah, ok, thought it might not, thanks :) [09:07] mjg would be the one to ask === rouzic [n=rouzic@9.Red-88-10-208.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak was happier than a pig in crap when someone told me how to fix that :) [09:09] gnomefreak: yeah, Kamion fixed mine just so that I could test the new theming stuff :-) === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:10] _ion fixed mine [09:10] nixternal: ????? [09:12] wow! [09:12] all that did was give me a 1024x768 view of the Test usplash ;) [09:14] nixternal: i dont have the test splash [09:14] i have a real one [09:14] i do unfortunately [09:14] big ubuntu sign with sectioned progress bar [09:15] i have that on my ubuntu box [09:15] but not my kubuntu box [09:15] nixternal: try sudo update-alternatives and change the usplash [09:15] i use sudo update-alternatives --all only cause i can never remember what the name of it is [09:17] didn't run across anything for usplash === yveslu [n=yves@194.235.200.146] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:18] There is only 1 program which provides usplash-artwork.so [09:18] (/usr/lib/usplash/usplash-theme-kubuntu.so). Nothing to configure. [09:18] thats why [09:19] only kubuntu on that box? [09:19] ya [09:19] that would be why :( [09:19] it seems there is a broken link in /usr/lib/usplash [09:20] usplash-artwork.so -> /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so === marseillai [n=mars_@AMarseille-256-1-103-62.w90-10.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:20] all of the usplash links are broken [09:21] /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so -> /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so [09:21] a link that points to itself [09:23] bet it works now [09:23] brb [09:23] reboot === yveslu [n=yves@194.235.200.146] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:27] work? === nixternal writes up a post to teach everyone how to fix their kubuntu usplash issue [09:29] yup [09:29] is there a way to create a patch to fix the /etc/alternatives/ link? [09:30] that is the issue [09:30] and there are a lot of people with the problem [09:32] nixternal: sounds nasty [09:32] it has been plaguing me forever [09:32] is it an update issue or an install issue? === kwwii goes back to art :p [09:36] dunno [09:36] im thinking update === gnomefreak has been lucky no link issues [09:36] as i have had this edgy since day one [09:36] and updates never fixed it [09:39] so how does one install mp3 support in edgy? [09:39] I ask this for every release [09:39] eventually, when I get my sound working it becomes important [09:40] I love the fact that amarok offers to install it per pop-up everytime I click on an mp3 file but the fact that that pop-up does exactly nothing is kinda irratating [09:43] sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs [09:43] or ya, amarok offers that now [09:44] really..amarok has installed it for me in the past..maybe they broke something [09:44] nixternal: did you knwo you were banned from kubuntu-offtopic [09:44] well, it does not work for me [09:44] now i did [09:44] that was when i got hacked [09:44] oh ok [09:45] i went from a cisco pix 501 router to a linksys wrt54g router..and in a matter of minutes i had issues [09:46] libxine-extracodecs is already the newest version. [09:46] and it still doesn#t work [09:46] imbrandon: problems with amarok on your ppc? [09:47] I have exactly one CD in ogg, the other 30Gb in MP3 [09:47] works ok here , thats what i package amarok on is a ppc, you did restart amarok ( including the tray icon ) after you installed the libxine right ? === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:48] although there was a libxine update today , i havent downloaded it [09:48] i hope amarok dosent have to be rebuilt against it === gnomefreak needs a free mp3/playlist collection :( [09:49] imbrandon: yepp, it was installed a long time ago [09:50] hrmm ok give me a bit to go grab my laptop and check it out [09:59] speaking of amarok..i noticed last night that the sound seemed 'distorted' a little bit [10:00] that means its time for a qtip nixternal ;) [10:00] haha [10:00] it sounds fine now...if you take the volume in amarok above 80%, you will get it [10:00] yea thats normal [10:01] maybe for amarok, not iTunes ;) [10:01] leave it at 80 and adj the normal sound system [10:01] its normal for anything that uses a real eq system [10:01] i stand corrected ;) [10:04] ( e.g itunes changes the system mixer level , amaroks voluume acts like a preamp its not tied to the systems mixers ) [10:04] anyhow bbiab === nixternal is listening to "Livin' On A Coastline" by Sammy Hagar & The Wabos on Livin' It Up [Amarok] [10:05] its normal for anything that uses a real eq system [10:05] ermm...you mean amplifier...eq doesn't amp levels, just cleans um [10:06] but you are correct...any "real" audio system will usually distort between 78% and 84% i believe it is [10:08] well, I have heard the same album 5 times today, and unless you want me to switch to Rammstein I hope someone could figure it out [10:08] :p [10:12] haha [10:12] rammstein rocks! [10:12] you need some sammy! [10:13] the new hagar album rocks big time...i like how he mixed rock, blues, and country in this one === imbrandon is listening to "Underneath Your Clothes" by Shakira on Laundry Service [Amarok] [10:13] hrmm [10:14] kwwii: this is on my ppc ^^ [10:14] hahahaha [10:14] shakira [10:14] lol [10:14] she is hot, but her music isn't [10:14] dude she is hotness [10:14] so? === Tm_T never listens music because of someones "look" [10:14] her videos are intense [10:14] hahah Tm_T! [10:14] it's _music_ not porno [10:14] +1 [10:14] imbrandon: you suck [10:14] roflmfao [10:14] imbrandon: on my powerbook it would probably work [10:14] i like he music too FWIW [10:15] anyway, I'm going to sleep ;) -> [10:15] nite Tm_T [10:15] kwwii: try it to make sure [10:15] if you can [10:15] honestly, this eMac is the best test for ppc [10:15] gnight Tm_T [10:15] *nothing* works [10:15] haha [10:15] lol [10:15] I have to edit the Xorg conf per hand === nixternal is listening to "I Love This Bar" by Sammy Hagar & The Wabos on Livin' It Up [Amarok] [10:15] mp3's, m4a's, ogg, and wma's all work === kwwii is listneing to the same damn Danish ogg CD for the 5th time [10:16] haha [10:16] Awwww Sweet :-) [10:16] i should convert my collection to ogg, it would take a week or two [10:16] I will switch to Rammstein (the only other ogg's I have) and freak people out (like I did in Wiesbaden) [10:17] actually, the eMac has really nice speakers [10:17] du hast mich [10:17] mitch? [10:17] du, du hast, du hast mich [10:17] it is a play on words [10:17] i love that song [10:17] you have me vs. you hate me [10:17] the difference is in how long the s is in the word [10:18] ah === imbrandon looks for his mp32ogg script [10:19] i keep them in mp3 mainly so i can play them on my ipod in the apple os === imbrandon is listening to "Get The Party Started (Sweet Dreams Remix)" by p!nk [Amarok] [10:20] nother hottie ;P [10:21] haha [10:22] the last few weeks though my fav song has been "Rockstar" by nickelback, man that song rocks, nixternal you should grab it [10:22] ya [10:22] i have it [10:22] it is a good song...nickleback got me with that one song they did last year [10:23] all nickelback rocks actualy [10:23] .... and a king sized tub big enough for 10 plus me ....... [10:23] i can see it now in cali it will only be kwwii and me outside smokin and listning to ramstein [10:23] lol [10:25] hehe [10:25] ./` .... i'm gonna trade this life for fortune and fame, i'll even cut my hair and change my name .... ./` [10:25] probably === imbrandon stops [10:25] i will sit outside and listen as well..but i won't smoke [10:26] heh i couldent deal with computers without a smoke [10:26] it would drive me nuts [10:26] ya..that is why i go afk quite a bit ;) [10:26] ( and a mt dew ) ;P [10:26] i used to smoke..and when i wa sont he puter, it was smokes and dew non-stop [10:26] but since i quit them both...i have to take breaks [10:27] my breaks are for a cute mexican hottie that has me drag her out on the town now and then and to goto the fridge for more dew, thats it [10:28] ;) [10:28] hehe [10:28] im taking a break this week..im heading to the great countryside of canada tomorrow [10:29] nixternal: you'll fit well in ca [10:30] :-) [10:30] i should be in toronto for about 30 minutes and then on a little crasher called a puddle jumper [10:30] heh === Kuhrscher [n=jannick@88.134.176.201] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon is listening to "Que Me Quedes Tu" by Shakira on Laundry Service [Amarok] [10:31] haha === nixternal is listening to "Sunshine And Summertime" by Faith Hill on Fireflies (Advance) [Amarok] [10:32] this song ownz, and she is a hottie! [10:32] southern women FTW! === imbrandon fires up Frostwire while he cant sleep === yveslu [n=yves@194.235.200.146] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:39] hehe [10:39] imbrandon: you need to fire up revu and take a look at my packages, that are probably obsolete by now [10:39] dude i'm sleepy, barely able to make amarok and frostwire function [10:40] heh i will when i have slept [10:40] wouldent be much good now === nixternal leaves that punch line along === DaSkreech got pretty usplash :) === nixternal does too [10:43] ln -s /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-theme-kubuntu.so [10:43] that fixes it === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.91.29] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:45] is that what the problem is ?> === imbrandon looks at the source package === lnxkde kicks his cable modem! [10:46] nixternal: the usplash is just blue kubuntu with a progress bar? [10:46] ya [10:47] imbrandon: yes that is the problem [10:47] and a stupid one at that === lnxkde is downloading at 9 to 15k/sec [10:47] follow the links, it is one big circle [10:47] you go from /usr/lib -> /etc/alternatives/ -> /usr/lib [10:48] /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so -> /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so [10:49] /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so -> /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-theme-kubuntu.so [10:51] ahh found the problem [10:51] fixing ..... [10:51] it was that for youa s well? [10:52] mine was ok, i'm talking about the package [10:52] i meant to write that up, as there are a "ton" of Kubuntu edgy users complaining that they still have the "test" usplash [10:52] bah there on a development release [10:52] it will be fixed shortly [10:52] ya, but still, it needs to work in order to stop the bugs ;) [10:52] cool... [10:53] funny thing...we should have realized this sooner shouldn't we? [10:53] why did it take the one no0b to find it? [10:53] ;) [10:53] why it was just released a few days ago [10:53] becouse it wasent a priority ;) [10:54] ahh [10:54] well...this no0b is still taking the victory lap for it ;) [10:55] hrm actualy [10:55] it should be working [10:55] ase "$1" in [10:55] configure) [10:55] update-alternatives --remove usplash-artwork.so /usr/lib/usplash/kubuntu-splash.so [10:55] update-alternatives --install /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so usplash-artwork.so /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-theme-kubuntu.so 15 [10:55] update-initramfs -u [10:55] ;; [10:55] esac === yveslu [n=yves@194.235.200.146] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [10:58] hmm..that is odd..it should [10:58] Which one is the pretty one? [10:58] The one with Segments? [11:00] there is another one? [11:00] i have the glossy kubuntu logo, with the status bar below [11:00] there is only one [11:00] ok [11:00] Oh then I have that one then :) [11:00] I can't edit repos from Adept though :-( [11:04] adept? [11:04] what is adept? [11:04] ;) [11:04] sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list [11:04] quicker and easier === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:10] ok nixternal you got one of those "ton" of people handy === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:20] I know but there are huge number of people who join #kubuntu and don't want to use GUI [11:20] and an equal number who can't use anything but [11:20] Hmm Can I have X output on two Videocards at the same time? [11:21] yes [11:21] DaSkreech: like the same output, or split output... half a screen on each monitor... [11:21] ryanakca: you can do either one [11:21] ;) [11:21] imbrandon: ah :) [11:22] you just cant have X on one and a seperate X on the other [11:22] You can't? that sucks === ryanakca curses... for some reason my windecs are looking like dapper now... not even the slightest hint of purple... [11:23] DaSkreech: how would you determine what X server has the input for your mouse and keyboard [11:24] Riddell: ping === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:25] heya Hobbsee [11:25] hi Hobbsee [11:25] hey pointystickperson === ryanakca ducks === mornfall uses pointystick [11:25] anything wrong with that? [11:25] Hobbsee: is your computer a upgrade or a fresh knot install ? ( eg do you have the testcard usplash or not ), i thnk i fixed it but i need a tester before i upload [11:26] heya mornfall [11:26] hey imbrandon, mornfall, ryanakca [11:26] mornfall: good man :P [11:26] imbrandon: fresh knot 2 install, iirc [11:26] imbrandon: my computer is a fresh know install... 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[11:32] ryanakca: no idea...it should not be that way [11:32] nope we have --install but not --set [11:32] imbrandon: aah [11:32] Riddell: good answer, but does anything specifially piss you off? [11:32] kwwii: wierd... [11:32] Riddell: should i upload it , or find someone to test ? [11:32] no worries about the answer [11:33] ryanakca: they should look like http://bootsplash.org/snapshot8.png [11:33] imbrandon: I keep forgetting you have main upload now :) [11:33] hehe [11:34] kwwii: nope... [11:34] imbrandon: does it need to be --install'ed then --set ? [11:34] imbrandon: man page doesn't say anything about --set adding it, although it would seem daft not to [11:34] Riddell: from what i read in the man page it does [11:35] here is what i changed it to [11:35] case "$1" in [11:35] configure) [11:35] update-alternatives --install /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so usplash-artwork.so /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-theme-kubuntu.so 10 [11:35] update-alternatives --set usplash-artwork.so /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-theme-kubuntu.so [11:35] update-initramfs -u [11:35] ;; [11:35] esac [11:35] imbrandon: looks good to me, do it [11:36] kk [11:36] kwwii: I like how ubuntu doesn't have a black background on their current usplash [11:36] Riddell: good point, I was waiting for that to be tested [11:36] Riddell: yea i like that too, i was gonna sugest it for us [11:37] not sure if it would always be the right size [11:38] erm, I meant whether it would be enclosed by black bars on the sides due to the non-scaling of some resolutions [11:38] kwwii: I'd have hoped usplash would have a setting for the default background colour to fill the whole screen with [11:39] but probably it doesn't [11:39] Riddell: I am sure that is possible, now, somehow === DaSkreech tries to decide if he likes rounded corners [11:39] Seveas is very receptive to simple ideas [11:39] DaSkreech: I like them... [11:39] but he just came home from a conference [11:40] DaSkreech: they rock [11:40] kwwii: what folders do I delete to have kde revert to it's default look? [11:40] kwwii: I'm also not convinced about the kicker background, but we'll leave it in for beta and see what people say [11:40] Riddell: so I I guess we will not update the usplash until after the beta, unless you want to do it [11:40] They make buttons look funny though === Hobbsee likes the current usplash [11:40] ryanakca: kubuntu-default-settings [11:40] ryanakca: .kde/ [11:40] Riddell: uploaded [11:40] ryanakca: oh, yeah [11:40] imbrandon: thanks [11:40] Riddell: that is one thing that mark specifically mentioned on the ubuntu list [11:40] .kde/share?what [11:40] he likes backgrounds [11:40] I mean .kde/share/what? [11:40] Riddell: yea sabdfl asked for one [11:41] for a kicker background? [11:41] yea "pannel" bg is what he said but yea [11:41] kicker is panel [11:41] right [11:41] oh well, I can just blame it on him then :) [11:41] hehe [11:41] he said he liked them [11:42] so I thought, ok...let's try one [11:42] Is it me or has the Cd gotten smaller? [11:42] plus the pannel bg matches the windeco better [11:42] I thought the contrast between the kubuntu report and the ubuntu report at today's developer meeting was interesting [11:42] DaSkreech: it just fit on my CD without overburning... [11:42] Riddell: hahaha yea i noticed that too [11:42] The ISO is smaller [11:42] What was the contrast? [11:43] Riddell: do you know how long mark will be at akademy? perhaps we can show him a current system? [11:43] kwwii: just the tuesday, but yes we should [11:43] kwwii: you have any other panel background I can test? [11:43] Riddell: what about it? [11:43] Riddell: I even thought about making screenshots and showing him in an email [11:43] Riddell: i havent seen it yet [11:43] ryanakca: NOPE [11:44] kwwii: lol... *attempts to create one for himself* [11:44] imbrandon: What was the Contrast? [11:44] kwwii: if you do attach them , like he said in his "soyuz a road warrior" thing hehehe [11:44] oooh... katapult is purple... nice [11:44] Riddell: in the end, I followed everything he said about how he wants gnome to be [11:44] DaSkreech: huh ? [11:44] imbrandon: Between Ubuntu and Kubuntu reports at the meeting? [11:44] only did it kubuntuized [11:44] imbrandon: huh? [11:45] reports of the meeting? [11:45] kwwii: i mean that in a good way ;) kubuntuized [11:45] I thought the contrast between the kubuntu report and the ubuntu report at today's developer meeting was interesting [11:45] I wouldn't mind seeing those [11:45] DaSkreech: umm its hard to explain you'll have to read the log [11:45] kwwii: what's the default size for a panel gradient thingy? [11:46] basicly kwwii said "yea we're rocking right on track" and ubuntu was the opsite [11:46] ryanakca: i guessed 12[ [11:46] 128 [11:46] DaSkreech: ^^ === Hobbsee looks for the log [11:46] hehe, yeah [11:46] well, that is not my fault [11:46] kwwii: soo... 128x16? [11:46] !logs [11:46] Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs [11:47] ryanakca: it could just as well be 1x128 [11:47] ryanakca: it dosent matter much kicker will scale it to the size it needs [11:47] kwwii: kk [11:48] ryanakca: there are some examples from kde ( ugly imho but none the less ) in /usr/share/apps/kicker/wallpapers including the default one from kde [11:48] imbrandon: kk [11:48] Ack === DaSkreech starts thinking up a lesskruft script [11:49] Was Sabdfl in the meeting? [11:49] no [11:50] Hmm What else should I grep for [11:50] Ohh Duh What time did the meeting start? === jott [n=j@unaffiliated/jott] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:50] 15:00 UTC [11:50] ok [11:51] just check for my nick and fschoep [11:51] fschoep is the ubuntu AiC [11:51] they are having a conf call next week [11:51] tomarrow iirc kwwii [11:51] we are basically close to done [11:51] or tomorrow [11:52] I would love to take part in that [11:52] ;) [11:53] kwwii: why not have the same BG as the others in uspash ? [11:53] then it would be consistant all the way [11:54] imbrandon: because it's brown [11:54] no no i mean [11:54] the desktop kspash kdm wallpaper [11:54] use that as the bg for uspash also [11:54] bake it the same all the way though [11:54] s/bake/make [11:54] oh, too many colours probably, but interesting idea [11:55] too many colors [11:55] ahh [11:55] I thought about putting it on a solid color other than black [11:55] like a dark purple [11:55] or that light almost blue color from amarok context menu [11:56] Riddell: if you want to update the uslash before the beta, I have a tar.gz ready with new pics [11:56] kwwii: sure, what's new in it? [11:56] i am thinking light looks good becosue look at the light brown and the apple boot grey [11:56] Riddell: the logo is a bit smaller, and it includes a 640x480 theme which, without adding some code will not work, I guess [11:57] abattoir: did you send a patch to kamion? [11:57] but at least, we could update the current pics [11:57] kwwii: code to usplash? [11:57] Riddell: to the theme file, yes [11:57] I originally made it for 640x480 so the pics are really the same :-) [11:58] funy how that works [11:58] Riddell: i finaly figured out how to use uuencode and friends properly too when updating kwin-style-crystal for kwwii the other day ;) [11:58] hehe === imbrandon was proud [11:59] imbrandon: they're tricky beasties richt enough [11:59] heh yea, honestly i would say the hardest thing about packing i have learned [11:59] kwwii: where is the theme file? [11:59] imbrandon: document it! [11:59] imbrandon: why so? [11:59] imbrandon: add it to the packaging guide [11:59] imbrandon: we'll have to find more challenging things for you [12:00] yea good idea Riddell [12:00] ajmitch: ohh i'm sure ;) [12:00] ajmitch: basicly becouse i couldne t find docs on using them in a package [12:00] he's a core dev now, he has to be constantly challenged === ajmitch tells imbrandon to go & package fedora directory server ;) [12:00] and no one else was awake [12:00] Riddell: you can simply replace the pics for existing pics, the extra theme for 640x480 does not exist yet [12:00] http://bootsplash.org/usplash.tar.gz [12:00] ajmitch: heh [12:00] Hobbsee: we all sit at his feet & bask in his wisdom? [12:01] kwwii: since imbrandon just uploaded I can't do it until I get the new sources (or he could do it) [12:01] I hope that the color palette is not in the other files somehow [12:01] ajmitch: exactly. and yours [12:01] hehe [12:01] ajmitch: and then poke you both wiht the long pointy stick [12:01] Hobbsee: I don't count [12:01] yes you do. [12:02] Riddell: i missed part of the convo , something else to update ? [12:03] imbrandon: new usplash images http://bootsplash.org/usplash.tar.gz [12:03] ahh okie, yea i just uploaded so i would have to do it, or wait, now i see [12:03] grabbing it now [12:06] well, time for sleep [12:07] Night [12:07] see you all tomorrow [12:07] Not me :) [12:07] kwwii / Riddell uploaded [12:07] gnight kwwii [12:10] imbrandon: we're in freeze but lucky for you I just got your upload approved :) [12:11] oh shit, i thought that dident start till tomarrow [12:12] imbrandon: nope :) [12:12] whew , thanks Riddell [12:12] heh, i see what you mean @ the meeting