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Ash-FoxCould someone reccommend me publishing software?12:11
zorglu_LeeJunFan: ok, im unable to reproduce it.. lets say it didnt happen :)12:11
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sorush20Josh_: in adapt check the kAudioCreator package and view its details then you can download the recommended packages for it..12:11
satemplerAsh-Fox: scrubis is the one i know of12:11
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LeeJunFanzorglu_: okay, it could have been a specific file or type of file that aggrevated some type of bug in a plugin for highlighting.12:12
ahmeniecho1: try "LIBGL_DEBUG='verbose' glxinfo" and see if that gives any extra information12:12
Ash-Foxsatempler, thankyou12:12
satemplernp12:12
zorglu_LeeJunFan: yep just retried to reload the same file (a simple .sh) nothing happen12:12
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sorush20Josh_: there is a reommended package for flac free lossless audio codec12:12
zorglu_LeeJunFan: i closed the instance eating cpu, i will study more if it happen again12:13
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echo1ahmeni: yeah, libGL error: XF86DRIQueryDirectRenderingCapable returned false12:13
Coffeeman1does cisco include linksys?12:13
echo1and of course "direct rendering: no"12:13
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LeeJunFanCoffeeman1: cisco owns linksys but they are 2 VERY different product lines.12:14
Sannebye all12:14
Coffeeman1bye12:14
MasterEvilAcewow12:14
Josh_sorush20 in the respositories?12:14
MasterEvilAcehe left before we could say bye.12:14
Josh_sorush20 it wont encode my wav files12:15
Josh_sorush20 however its encoding my ogg12:15
Coffeeman1Im in the wrong place but im trying to get aircrack to work on my computer...=P12:15
harleypigHow can I uninstall openoffice without uninstall kubuntu-desktop?12:15
gnomefreakharleypig: let it uninstall kubuntu-desktop12:15
LeeJunFanharleypig: just do it, uninstalling kubuntu-desktop doesn't mean that it will remove all the kde and what not.12:16
harleypigoh.  ok ... thx12:16
OODit will just remove the metapackage that points to other packages12:16
rawrwhy uninstall kde?12:16
OODit's not gonna uninstall kde12:16
rawrahh read out of context12:16
Josh_anyone know what flac free lossless audio codecs is supposed to do?12:17
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OODit's a lossless audio codec like wav (high quality)12:18
harleypigIt's still not letting me uninstall ... I even tried apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop and I'm still getting dependencies errors about openoffice.12:18
harleypigapt-get -f install doesn't fix anything.12:18
JFreakCapowhen try to burn a cd i receive a message of acces denied to device, how can i set access to my user??12:18
rawrhow much better is edgy  sposed to be?12:18
cpk2cant you do like a recursive uninstall?12:18
OODit's still in alpha12:18
OODso it isn12:18
OODisn't stable12:19
MasterEvilAcerAWR: a lot faster12:19
MasterEvilAcei'm using it12:19
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OODbut a lot of performance improvements :)12:19
cpk2its almot to release =)12:19
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OODactually it's still a month away t'ill release ;)12:19
MasterEvilAceyeah things break frequently if you update a lot12:19
rawrI see12:20
cpk2hey, the last release they had was 5 months ago12:20
cpk2so its almost there =P12:20
rawri can't get flash plugins to even install so better wait12:20
rawri type in sudo update-flashplugin12:20
MasterEvilAceflash installed on edgy forme12:20
OODcpk2: no it was 2 and a half months ago12:20
MasterEvilAcei think i only installed mozilla-flashplugin or something??12:21
MasterEvilAceworks for me12:21
cpk2OOD: 6 month release schedule?12:21
rawrand it gives me this error automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream change12:21
cpk2oh yeah nevermind dapper was late12:21
OODcpk2: dapper was delayed by 2 months, but edgy contiuned normally so it's only got 4 months12:21
OODyeah12:21
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MasterEvilAceOOD: no wonder. that seemed really quick12:22
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cpk2the wiki has an entry on how to install flash12:22
rawri am currently reading a thread about the error12:23
arcasaI HAVE WORKING WINE!12:24
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OODwine's great12:24
rawrXD12:24
arcasaHeh.12:24
OODi dont think i could use linux without wine12:24
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rawrI just hate how so many things arer made for windows12:24
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rawrwhile so little gets linux ports12:25
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LeeJunFanOOD: yea, you learn to as you find more apps to fill your needs. One at a time.12:25
OODsome will never be replaced however, games and multimedia apps are the problem12:25
MasterEvilAceyup12:25
MasterEvilAcewinamp for linux would be brilliant12:25
sorush20transition from one page to another in kpdf is not very smooth.. acroread is much better as expected12:25
cpk2cedega works for most popular games12:25
LeeJunFanOOD: I only have 2 applications I need windows/wine for. Games are another story...12:25
cpk2and we have tuxracer!12:25
rawrMy most angryest thing was not being able to use super (c)12:26
rawrwith wine.....12:26
sorush20MasterEvilAce: what feature of winamp are you looking to have that xmms and other programs don't have?12:26
OODyou can use winamp in wine, although it's pretty buggy12:26
cpk2MasterEvilAce: you know xmms is a winamp clone?12:26
LeeJunFanI'd take amarok over any other mp3 player any day.12:26
OODaudio creation software is just about nonexistant on linux12:27
MasterEvilAcesorush20: mainly i'm just TOO used to it. media library, and the way everything else is setup and works for my heavily modified preferences :)   xmms sucks, it's a clone of older winamp so i don't like it12:27
MasterEvilAcei use amarok12:27
MasterEvilAceIt's pretty good, but it's a shame it sucks for networked files12:27
LeeJunFanOOD: you mean like waveform? mp3 and such?12:27
OODthere's no reason or fl studio or cubase or sonar12:27
OODetc12:27
OODthose are audio editors12:27
MasterEvilAceOH YEAH12:27
sorush20MasterEvilAce: have you tried amarok? its great..12:27
OODyep12:27
MasterEvilAceI use FL Studio a lot12:28
DSlicerAre there any known issues with trying to create an xfs partition when installing? I get an error message "There was a problem with mkfs.xfs"12:28
OODFL studio is awesome12:28
MasterEvilAcesorush20: yup it's what i use, i like the interface, everything about it12:28
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OODit's waht i use12:28
mad_manwhen i minimize a program it completely disapears. they wood minimize to the panel before. how can i have programs to minimize back to the panel ?12:28
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MasterEvilAceOOD: what genre do you do in FL?12:28
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OODi'm into trance and d & b12:29
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MasterEvilAcethat's hot12:29
MasterEvilAcelistening to bassdrive on amarok right now12:29
OODyou?12:29
cpk2dont you have to buy FL?12:29
OODyeah12:30
MasterEvilAcei love heavy electronic / trance / drum n bass, etc. But everything I make .. i'm not sure how to describe it. it's electronic though. regular sounding drums with synths and such12:30
OODbest money i ever spent12:30
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rawrwhats libflash-mozplugin?12:30
satemplerRiddell: you around12:31
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elknof1hi everybody..  hey i'm having some trobles while conecting to the wireless12:31
OODyeah synths and complex drum beats along with some killer pads :)12:31
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elknof1im using a delll 600m with prowireless 210012:32
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OODrawr: that's flash12:33
peteSo I tried to open up Azureus. And then it went crazy and shut down. Now I'm getting a warning window in the bottom right corner of the screen because of it, and it won't go away, even when I click "hide", how could I get rid of it?12:33
zorglu_!paste12:33
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:33
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rawrahh it is.12:33
rawrwelll now i can't get adpet to work error: The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.12:33
OODdo apt-get update in terminal12:34
rawroh no space.12:34
rawrdur !12:34
OODeh?12:34
OODyou on a live cd?12:34
rawri put a space insted of a _12:34
rawr-12:34
rawrXD12:34
OODoh, that's what you meant12:34
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OODthough you meant space as in megabytes12:35
rawrahh i see i screwed up my source list12:35
rawrfor got somemore letters12:35
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|lostbyte| * Starting DHCP server:                                                         [fail] 12:36
|lostbyte|?12:36
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DSlicerAnybody know of any problems with trying to create xfs partitions during install?12:38
DSlicer"There was a problem with mkfs.xfs"12:38
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omicronhi there. I cannot get the direct rendering (dri) working on kubuntu 6.06. Xorg.0.log claims that Direct rendering is enabled, but glxinfo tells me: OpenGL vendor string: Mesa GLX Indirect. any hints?12:40
DSlicerOr should I just stick with ext3 and not worry about it?12:40
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zorglu_omicron: 1. determine what is you graphic card  :)12:42
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peteAnybody?12:42
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Zaireanyone know how you could find and remove a .deb package...and not one available via apt or adept?12:44
lupine_85dpkg -r <packagename>12:44
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steveirehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24142 <<< I get this error message since updating flash. What can I do about this?12:45
omicron0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL 9000]  (rev 01)12:45
echo1Has anyone here succesfully installed fglrx 8.29.6?12:45
Zairethanks lupine85 that worked perfectly12:46
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Zairevmware workstation broke vmwareplayer and it seems to be working now12:47
zorglu_wow i actually found out a bug between the interaction of konqueror and amarok12:48
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zorglu_now how to report it :)12:48
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MasterEvilAce!ubotu bug report12:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bug report - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:49
MasterEvilAce!ubotu bug12:49
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com12:49
Zaireis there a debian package for vmware workstation, the one I used broke player cause it was a converted rpm12:49
MasterEvilAcethere you go, zorglu_ :)12:49
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horacio_hola, soy kubuntu y me siento muy feliz :)12:50
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lupine_85!es12:51
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.12:51
lupine_85assuming that's spanish, which it might not be!12:51
lupine_85!languages12:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about languages - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:51
theHatsorry :)12:51
MasterEvilAceyeah that's spanish12:51
theHatloll12:51
Zaireok is there anyway I could turn a source package into a debian package?12:52
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zorglu_pool: when you click on a playlist via konqueror , is the playlist played ? in amarok ?12:53
|lostbyte|Zaire, checkinstall12:53
Zaire?12:53
l3hi all... how it's possible that my dvd burner is recognised by the live knoppix and not by the installed one? (i apologize for my rustic english...)12:53
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l3[17179584.916000]  Probing IDE interface ide1...12:55
l3[17179591.884000]  hdc: no response (status = 0x80), resetting drive12:55
l3[17179627.108000]  hdc: no response (status = 0x8012:55
theHatl3: maybe, first you have to know whats module use your dvd burner and then load it :)12:55
zorglu_l3: this is #kubuntu:) you may get better help on knoppix on their channel :)12:56
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zorglu_l3: but if i were you, i would look/play at the boot option12:56
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l3sorry... i mispelled knoppix for kubuntu... it's a kubuntu installed and live... :)12:56
zorglu_ok :) so play with the boot option :)12:57
l3ok12:57
zorglu_i mean this is the same kernel i think, you may check with 'uname -r' to get the kernel version12:57
zorglu_and 'cat /proc/cmdline' to get the boot option12:57
sean__Oh noes my clock just went to 00:00 !12:58
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zorglu_sean__: happy new day :)12:58
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Zairethe file marked with install on it in the main vmware source folder is vmware-install.pl12:58
sean__Someone e-mail Stephen Hawking12:58
theHatl3: make lsmod and look up whats the module load knoppix or kubuntu live cd12:58
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theHatthen, modprob <module>12:58
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Junitohi12:59
theHator look up in dmesg if its recognized12:59
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Junitohow can i get that kde remember the windows position. I meant that if you closed the Kaffeine on the right down corner, Kaffeine must to appear in the right down corner in the next execution like in gnome all the apps.01:00
DSlicerJust out of curiosity, when during the install process should I get the option to add my Windows drive to the boot manager?01:00
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l3in the kubuntu live is recognised, but not in the installed...01:00
l3l3@darkstar:~$ cat /proc/cmdline01:00
l3root=/dev/hdd1 ro quiet splash01:00
LeeJunFanDSlicer: normally it just automatically does it.01:00
DSlicerLeeJunFan: that would be neat01:01
omicroni have this radeon 9200 mobility on 6.06 and i cannot get direct rendering working with the radeon driver for x.org. Xorg.0.log reports direct rendering enabled, but glxinfo only shows Mesa indirect rendering...does anyone of you have a hint for me?01:01
LeeJunFanomicron: what drivers are you using ati or fglrx?01:02
Zaireis there anyone who can help me with vmware workstation01:02
LeeJunFanomicron: I mean - the one that comes with xorg or the one that is from ati?01:03
otaku-sanAnybody on here use a podcast feed tool?  I was wondering cuz' I'm trying to install one and I think I need a certain little package installed, and wanted to check if I was right.01:03
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LeeJunFanZaire: what exactly are you trying to do?01:03
omicronLeeJunFan: I use the "radeon" driver from xorg..01:03
ZaireIm trying to install vmware workstation but I can't find a deb for it just source or rpm01:04
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omicronotaku-san: you can use amarok for subscribing to podcasts..01:04
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DSlicerWell, Windows did show up in the list. Unfortunately, the system doesn't seem to be recognizing my keyboard during boot, so I can't select it01:05
LeeJunFanZaire: just get the source, untar it, cd into the vmware-distrib and run ./vmware-install.pl01:05
Zairedo I have to make it +x for that?01:05
LeeJunFanDSlicer: usb keyboard? might need to change a bios options for usb keyboard on boot.01:05
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LeeJunFanZaire: it already should be.01:05
DSlicerLeeJunFan: good call. I'll have to try that01:05
gorusi just installed a new nvidia driver (from the nvidia.com site) and now it won't startx (it says there's a mismatch between the kernel module and the x11 module); i did remove the old nvidia driver (by aptitude remove...); on my other box, a "sudo bash -c "rmmod nvidia; modprobe nvidia" would work. what is the solution?01:06
otaku-sanomicron: you can?01:06
otaku-sanomicron: I use amarok almost exclusively...anything to do with it I'll use01:07
omicronotaku-san: yep. just have a look on the "playlist01:07
omicron playlist tab. i mean. there is a folder called podcasts..01:07
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otaku-sanomicron:........and there it says podcast01:08
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otaku-sanomicron: any idea how I can get it to play...I'll check the guide01:08
LeeJunFanomicron: not sure about the 9200, specifically. Anyone else here have a 9200 with working glx they could pastebin the xorg.conf?01:08
omicronotaku-san: right click on podcasts: add podcast01:08
l3gorus: i guess the driver from nvidia are nvidia and the ones from the repository are nv... so you should change it in the xorg.conf...01:09
mauromy xorg seems to take up 50% of physical memory. what causes this issue01:09
LeeJunFanI have one on my kids laptop (9200 ATI) but it's not here now :(01:09
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otaku-sanomicron: *slaps forehead*  Man this is to simple01:09
otaku-sanI've been trying to get one podcaster to work after another....they all have had one prob or another01:10
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linuxkid2hi everyone01:10
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Zaireok this is fkn wierd I can cd into the vmware directory it says it doesn exist01:11
omicronLeeJunFan: i'd even love to get the driver from ati working. but I only get half the screen black and the other half crippled..01:11
|GaiJin|is it possible to get linux to be able to write to an NTFS Filesystem?? I seem to remember something about a module or something??01:11
Zairecan't cd into it rather01:11
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LeeJunFanomicron: I think that's for newer 9500+ cards.01:11
omicronLeeJunFan: Once when I was using slackware, I got it working on the same hardware.. but I cannot remember my settings nor the driver version that I used back then :( I could even play ut2004 with it..01:12
MasterEvilAce|GaiJin|: yeah, there's some way to do it (can't remember how).. but it's generally advised NOT to use it, as it could potentially corrupt your NTFS files01:13
cpk2!ntfs01:13
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse01:13
linuxkid2Hey, I messed up my X Server with the nVidia Legacy driver.01:13
maurodoes anyone know how to reduce xorg memory usage?01:13
linuxkid2I did this last time. Will I ever get it right? :/01:13
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Zaireheres the error I get when i try to launch vmware http://pastebin.ca/17807201:14
arcasaSynaptic isn't booting.. it just hangs. then closes.01:14
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elknof1hi everybody..  hey i'm having some trobles while conecting to the wireless01:15
cpk2do you guys ever try to tab complete words you dont know how to spell?01:15
elknof1im using a delll 600m with prowireless 210001:15
elknof1troubles*01:16
Zairelike I said I get the error in this pastbin when I launch vmware workstation http://pastebin.ca/17807201:17
cpk2just me hmm?01:17
linuxkid2I can't install the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386 package01:17
linuxkid2need help.01:17
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linuxkid2hello?01:18
cpk2linuxkid2: why cant you?01:18
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linuxkid2I don't know. Using aptitude, I can't mark it for installation01:19
sean__So do old KDE hands use konqueror or firefox?01:19
linuxkid2it installed the 2.6.15-23 version instead.01:19
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cpk2linuxkid2: if you do sudo apt-get upgrade does it say its being held back?01:19
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linuxkid2no, i'm all up to date.01:20
LeeJunFanomicron: I should have that xorg.conf in a few seconds.01:20
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omicronLeeJunFan: cool..01:21
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linuxkid2last time I did this, I had to add an extra repo, but I don't remember what.01:21
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MasterEvilAcehmm you shouldn't have to add an extra repo for the restricted modules i don't think01:22
MasterEvilAceand if you see them in adept.. then i mean theoretically you should be able to select to install01:22
linuxkid2But I did last time, and the package name didn;t work.01:23
linuxkid2I've no graphics right now. Iv'e got Irssi and Aptitude.01:23
Zaireok the damn vmware install says a previous version is installed already and that it was made by an rpm how do I fix this?01:23
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cpk2he might not have restricted included in the main repo01:24
seanOneLK2 did you stick deb in the repo line01:24
linuxkid2what line do I need to change?01:24
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cpk2can you pastebin your sources.list?01:25
linuxkid2I just uncommented universe and added multiverse, that's all I've done.01:25
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linuxkid2I'll try, but I've no graphics01:25
linuxkid2how would I copy and paste without a clipboard?01:26
cpk2or do you have a line that looks like deb http://archivesite/ dapper main restricted01:26
linuxkid2one minute...01:27
seanOneyeah, got to have the deb or it goes bang01:27
MasterEvilAceWhat do i need in amarok to play the Digitally imported streams? an error says something about missing demux and that the format probably isn't supported01:27
linuxkid2nope01:27
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cpk2and it wont be dapper if you arent using dapper01:27
linuxkid2I've got dapper01:27
cpk2linuxkid2: you might want to redo your sources.list if its wrong01:28
nimnroddoes kubuntu include some kind of theme manager? how and where can i change the way my desktop looks?01:28
cpk2!easysource01:28
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic01:28
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cpk2nimnrod: there is all sorts of eyecandy stuff01:29
Knifaerm01:29
linuxkid2actually, it's there.01:29
Knifadoes the "Storing language..."01:29
Knifabit01:29
Knifausually take ages?01:29
linuxkid2weird.01:29
MasterEvilAcenimnrod: kde menu -> system settings -> Appearance01:29
nimnrodbut i dont see any button that says "get more themes" or something like that01:30
MasterEvilAceyou're looking to DOWNLOAD more themes?01:30
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MasterEvilAcekde-look.org is a good place01:30
Knifaokay i think the installation on this computer died. it's stuck at "storing language..."01:31
Knifa75%01:31
Knifahard drive seems to be going01:31
Knifabut it's been at it for a while01:31
nimnrodyes01:31
Knifaergh it's making horrible clicking noises.01:31
Knifai think i killed it.01:31
linuxkid2In aptitude, the restriced modules package has a big "A" next to it. What's that meen?01:32
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LeeJunFanomicron: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2414801:33
linuxkid2In aptitude, the restriced modules package has a big "A" next to it. What's that meen?01:33
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Knifahaha i fixed it.01:33
Knifai kicked the side01:33
cpk2isnt aptitude the gui? thought you only had a terminal01:33
Knifaand it works :V01:33
Knifaaptitude is command line too01:34
Raul12any package cd avaiable for kbuntu01:34
Raul12?01:34
cpk2Knifa: voodoo programing?01:34
Hawkwindaptitude is CLI too01:34
Knifaclearly01:34
fildohi, i have an external dvd burner, via firewire,  .would i have to mount the drive or would it autodetect ?01:34
linuxkid2aptitude is curses, GUI in CLI01:34
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linuxkid2like Midnight Commander and Irrsi01:34
Raul12any package cd avaiable for kbuntu m?01:35
HawkwindRaul12: Not understanding what you are wanting01:35
Raul12any package cd avaiable for kbuntu ?01:35
cpk2Raul12: package cd? you want a free cd?01:35
zorglu_Knifa: :) maybe a good time to change your disk and reinstall after that :)01:35
HawkwindRaul12: What is a package CD and please stop repeating yourself01:35
Raul12yea01:35
Knifanah it's a spare computer01:35
cpk2you can get a free cd delivered to you if thats what you want01:35
Knifai'll just destroy it01:35
Knifawith fire.01:35
Knifalike dell laptops.01:35
Raul12software package cds01:35
Hawkwind!shipit01:36
ubotushipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org01:36
omicronLeeJunFan: thx for the config.. unfortunately mine looks exact the same..01:36
HawkwindRaul12: ^^^^^^^^^^01:36
Raul12no i want software packages not the .iso01:36
linuxkid2I can't find anything in the Aptitude docs about a big A01:36
LeeJunFanomicron: hrm, must be a library problem. Have you attempted to install any other drivers?01:36
linuxkid2You can buy third-party repository CD's I think.01:37
Knifaerg01:37
Admiral_Chicagolinuxkid2, what?01:37
Knifanow it's stuck at "installing kernel - retreiving and installing linux-386"01:37
Admiral_Chicagoas in what does that mean01:37
omicronLeeJunFan: i tried to install fglrx from adept.. but removed these packages because it did not work.01:37
LeeJunFanomicron: and you have Driver                "ati" not Driver "radeon"?01:37
Raul12no way to get main achive sofware cd from ubuntu archive ?01:37
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linuxkid2Admiral_Chicago: There's a big A next to the linux-restricted-modules package I need for my video card.01:38
linuxkid2Admiral_Chicago: in Aptitude01:38
HawkwindA = available ?01:38
LeeJunFanomicron: okay, I had that problem before and it had problems loading the proper lib. I imagine you've rebooted since then so the fglrx kernel module isn't loaded from the ati drivers?01:38
omicronLeeJunFan: at the moment I have "ati" yes.. i had "radeon" as well, but there was no difference..01:38
HawkwindAs in available for download/install/update maybe01:38
linuxkid2Maybe, one sec..01:38
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linuxkid2no01:38
omicronLeeJunFan: jep i have rebooted since then..01:39
linuxkid2and there's a big A next to the linux-kernel package. Maybe it meens Active.01:39
HawkwindI only use apt-get from CLI since it just works and a lot less confusing01:39
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Knifadoes the kubuntu installer download and compile the kernel01:39
Knifaor some such01:39
LeeJunFanomicron: try 'export LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose MESA_DEBUG=verbose' then run glxinfo01:39
Knifabecause it's taking ages01:39
linuxkid2I like the semi-grapchics that Aptitude has, for browsing packages mostly. I use Aptitude like apt-get a lot.01:40
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cpk2linuxkid2: aptitude search is just as good01:40
Mark__can someone please please help me01:40
Hawkwindapt-cache search works wonders for searching packages for me personally.  But that's because I'm anti GUI package managers01:40
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HawkwindMark__: With ?01:40
Mark__my linux keeps crashing at random01:40
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LeeJunFanomicron: at the top of all the crap it gives should be a line like libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib/dri....01:41
Mark__i'm using the 686-smp kernel01:41
one_i need 2 know the best video player with the most codecs, a good flash player 4 mozilla, and a good p2p01:41
Mark__im also using the nvidia-glx drivers01:41
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Coffeeman1how do I tell what base my wifi card is? ie. Prism?01:41
warpzoneheya, was anything GTK-related updated in the last few days? I can't remember and I don't know how to check01:41
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Mark__xine, apollon, flashplugin-nonfree01:41
Mark__one_01:41
one_thx mark!01:41
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linuxkid2I'm gonna reboot to see what that doess. Cya L8-er01:42
one_xine doesn't want to play avi, tho01:42
Raul12installing  server from cd will it give all desktop installtion funcation+server ?01:42
omicronLeeJunFan: hmm interesting output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2414901:42
Mark__you needa enable all of your repos and install the extracodecs package01:42
echo1Where can I find a guide on updating to the new kernel?01:43
Raul12which codecs packes01:43
one_type .etracodecs. ?01:43
Mark__any idea what's causing the instability hawkwind?01:43
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Hawkwindecho1: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will update to the new kernel if there is one01:43
Raul12i need to convert desktop to server any help ?01:43
Mark__one_: add multiverse to every repository that has universe on it\01:44
HawkwindMark__: Nope.  I use an SMP kernel and nvidia drivers too.  But I also build my kernel from kernel.org as I'm already using the 2.6.18 kernel released today01:44
LeeJunFanomicron: yeah, mine is loading radeon_dri.so01:44
warpzoneMark__: what type of instability? From something in the last few days, all ofmy GTK-based apps reandomly lock and and eventually freeze the comp01:44
one_i think i did, but i'll look again01:44
one_apallon is a p2p?01:44
echo1what is hte command to check my current kernel?01:44
Mark__k3b and firefox seems to freeze it alot\01:45
Mark__yes one_01:45
warpzoneMark__: whew ok I'm not alone01:45
Knifainstallation failed01:45
Knifa;_;01:45
Knifareason: my hard drive blew up.01:45
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Mark__you gotta be kidding me warpzone01:45
Mark__ an update is doin this?01:45
one_i have the newest kubuntu, so write in multiverse to each repo?01:46
Mark__only each repo that has universe on it already01:46
warpzoneMark__: it has to be, I havent done any installs or any system admin, but firefox is nigh unusable now, and it takes other GTK apps with it when it goes01:46
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Raul12i need to convert desktop to server any help ?01:46
linuxkid2hmph. Still no X.01:46
Mark__then go into adept and search extra codecs01:47
dungkaljust testing.01:47
Mark__warpzone: mine freezes the entire computer, and i have to hold the power button01:47
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Mark__and booting linux 20 times a day becomes tiresome quickly01:47
deoptimawhat about the radeon xpress 200m?01:47
deoptimawoops wrong chan01:48
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warpzoneMark__: agreed, I'm going to check the forums, see if this problem is more widespread and if a solution has been found. Maybe the new kernel?01:48
HawkwindMark__: Have you tried booting to an older kernel ?01:48
Mark__if only i knew how to build kernels01:48
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HawkwindMark__: Assuming you've updated to the latest kernel, your old kernels are still installed01:49
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Mark__and there is only one smp enable kernel in the repo list01:49
HawkwindMark__: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=611.001:49
one_mark: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release: Unable to find expected entry  multiiverse/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)--could not load this index?01:49
dungkallinuxkid2: sorry, i just logged in. did you encounter the 'no-X' problem right after you installed Kubuntu?01:49
Mark__unless u want me to downgrade to 2.401:49
HawkwindMark__: Follow that how-to on my forums.  Quick and easy way to build a kernel01:49
zorglu_Mark__: try without smp01:49
doppelganger_hey guys, real quick, whats the command to see what all hardware you have installed?01:49
linuxkid2dungkal: No, NVidia driver.01:49
Hawkwinddoppelganger_: lshw01:49
doppelganger_thanks hawk  =)001:50
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Mark__doesnt w/o smp make my dual core useless?01:50
warpzoneMark__: thread with the problem here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193283&highlight=firefox+freezes+update01:50
linuxkid2Anyone know how to enable SSL in Links so that I can see the Ubuntu Help stuff.01:50
LeeJunFanomicron: something is still there from your fglrx attempt, client glx vendor string: ATI should read SGI01:50
warpzoneMark__: checking it out now01:50
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HawkwindMark__: Yes, but it could be the way the Ubuntu kernel is built that is causing you problems.  You might need to build your own and add a patch or something01:50
zorglu_linuxkid2: what is the url you wanna reach01:51
Raul12i need to convert desktop to server any help ? pls01:51
zorglu_Mark__: if it works ok without smp, you know the issue is related to smp01:51
LeeJunFanomicron: ls -l /usr/lib/libGL.so01:51
one_the following problems have occured:01:51
dungkallinuxkid2: did you try to install xserver-xorg-video-nv, nvidia-glx, nvidia-kernel-common, and nvidia-settings?01:51
one_W: Duplicate sources.list entry cdrom://Kubuntu 6.06.1 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060807.1) dapper/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Kubuntu%206.06.1%20%5fDapper%20Drake%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20060807.1)_dists_dapper_main_binary-i386_Packages)01:51
one_W: Duplicate sources.list entry cdrom://Kubuntu 6.06.1 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060807.1) dapper/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Kubuntu%206.06.1%20%5fDapper%20Drake%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20060807.1)_dists_dapper_restricted_binary-i386_Packages)01:51
Mark__ill load up the non smp i686 kernel and see what happens01:52
Mark__one sec01:52
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zorglu_Mark__: then you can see how to fix it, your first step is find the cause of the issue, only then you try to fix :01:52
linuxkid2zorglu_ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia01:52
Hawkwindone_: Please don't paste all that here01:52
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Hawkwind!paste01:52
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:52
LeeJunFanomicron_: you get my last about your GLX client being ATI - should be SGI?01:52
one_sorry guys01:52
Hawkwindone_: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list  and remove one of the lines that has the cdrom entry, save the file and update again01:52
zorglu_linuxkid2: elinks https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia <- works ok from here01:52
Raul12plz any 1 help how to convert my desktop to server ?01:52
omicron_LeeJunFan: no, sorry did not get it..01:52
linuxkid2ok, I'll try that.01:52
HawkwindRaul12: Please stop repeating.  Have some patience and when someone can help you they will01:53
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LeeJunFanomicron: looks like some libs probably /usr/lib/libGL.so.* laying around are still from the fglrx install.01:53
Raul12hey hackwind i didnt want to do it on purpose01:54
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LeeJunFanRaul12: there's not much distinction between server / desktop. It's just a matter of a server having the services you need on it to serve.01:55
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zorglu_LeeJunFan: there is a different kernel no ?01:55
LeeJunFanRaul12: what precisely do you plan on serving?01:55
mark_back01:55
Raul12but how do i install the services for server ?01:55
LeeJunFanRaul12: first you need to know what services to install. There is no magic "server" list of services.01:56
Raul12i didnt find any samba or anythin on the networking achieve in kbuntu01:56
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omicron_LeeJunFan: is there an easy way to reinstall xserver-xorg-driver-ati ? so I might get a fresh libGL01:56
mark_how would i record and submit a bug report for the kernel problem?01:56
LeeJunFanRaul12: it's there, apt-get install samba01:56
one_hawkwind__: no write access01:57
Hawkwind!bugs01:57
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com01:57
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jmichaelxhas anyone else had a problem with the updated flash-plugin that was in the updates today?01:57
Hawkwindone_: If you use the command:  kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list  that will open the file with kwrite as root so you can edit it01:57
LeeJunFanomicron: dpkg -r --force-nodeps [package name] 01:58
Hawkwindjmichaelx: Known issue01:58
LeeJunFanomicron: then apt-get install it again.01:58
one_thx01:58
Hawkwindjmichaelx: There will hopefully be an update tomorrow or later tonight01:58
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jmichaelxHawkwind: ty for the info, just wondered01:58
Hawkwindjmichaelx: No problem :)01:58
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mark_ok booting back into normal 686 kernel and seeing if it still freezes01:59
Raul12LeeJunFan @ if i install server setup will i get server services + normal desktop install services ?01:59
LeeJunFanRaul12: you just need to pick and install the services/packages you want and install them. ie, apache, php, mysql, ssh-server, vsftpd, postfix, etc...02:00
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zorglu_mark_, the process to identify what cause the issue, is to remove stuff one by one until it works. then you reenable them etc... to get the culprit :)02:01
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zorglu_mark_, and dont forget to check the hardware, like memtest86 at boot02:01
Raul12k thxs lee02:01
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warpzoneman, the thread on dapper freezes in now 34 pages long and it was only made 4 days ago02:02
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Hawkwindzorglu_: Any success on the repo issue we were speaking of the other night in the devel channel ?02:02
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mark__ok hawkwind, im going to try to build my own kernel02:03
mark__which one should i download02:03
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zorglu_Hawkwind: nope i didnt get much echo there, i got some numbers tho, !repo is the 3rd most used command of ubotu02:03
A|i3NHey guys. Got a question. Have a dell laptop, it's got basically a broadcom 1470 wireless adapter. Does anybody know how to get this thing to work in kubuntu? I found a utility for extracting the firmware but i doubt that'll do me much good02:03
mark__you need the windows driver02:03
zorglu_Hawkwind: i figured i could have more echo with hard numbers02:03
A|i3Ni was gonna use ndiswrapper i guess but what package do I look for to install it?02:03
mark__the ndiswrapper wiki will help you much02:03
Hawkwindmark__: I'm running the newest, 2.6.18 on Dapper02:03
one_after i changed all universe 2 multiverse, one is not recognized02:03
mark__hawkwind, is the ubuntu nvidia packages compatible with that or will i need to download the nvidia drivers from the site02:04
mark__?02:04
zorglu_ok goodnight all :)02:04
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LeeJunFanhehe, doing updates from my other laptop using my local repository soaked up my upstream BW on the wifi network - had to remember how to setup htb and sfq by hand to smooth it out.02:04
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A|i3Nmark_ what package do I look for to install ndiswrapper?02:05
A|i3Nall i'm finding is the source and a front end.02:05
mark__ndiswrapper is already installed02:05
Hawkwindmark__: I'm using the one from the site as I always have for years02:05
A|i3Noh. i tried to run it an it didn't find it.02:05
mark__you should download the latest verion and build it from source then02:06
A|i3Nagh.. building... i'm new to linux man! lol i can figure it out though02:06
mark__one sec i got a guide for building it02:06
A|i3Nheeh ok02:06
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mark__hmm im gonna need to register02:07
mark__i forget how to02:07
A|i3Ni think the wiki will tell me it looks like02:08
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mark__hawkwind, if i build the kernel, it will support my dual core out of the box right?02:09
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mark__and also, is it quite as fast as the ubuntu kernel?02:10
Hawkwindmark__: It should as I have an SMP box myself, a P4 3.2GHz HT, not dual core but it sees both of my CPU's02:10
mark__dual processor?02:10
mark__cool02:10
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hw_viva las vegas x)~02:12
LeeJunFanthe server I setup for our local library is dual core dual opteron 64 bit :p02:12
LeeJunFanwish it was mine.02:12
mark__ive got a mere 1.6 dual core intel02:13
mark__but i love it to death already02:13
mark__omg this guide wants me to rm -rf something 0,002:13
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LeeJunFanThat's plenty of power, I started linux when the fastest processor on the market was 200mhz I think. Try compiling a kernel or kde with that!02:13
mark__im trying this kernel compiling guide right now02:14
LeeJunFanAnd back then you did have to compile your kernel to get stuff to work. hehe02:14
mark__im thinking i wont be talking to you guys again for another couple of hours02:14
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omicronLeeJunFan: I did apt-get install --reinstall for libgl1-mesa and libgl1-mesa-dri .. but i am still sticking with the client glx from ATI ..02:16
echo1How do I change a kernel module to reflect a new driver (fglrx)02:16
LeeJunFanomicron: just a min.02:17
echo1omicron: are you running the new fglrx drivers?02:17
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echo18.29.6?02:17
omicronecho1: no i cannot get the fglrx drivers working on my machine.. i just get a crippled desktop.. so I am trying to get dri with the free radeon drivers from xorg02:18
echo1i c02:18
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A|i3Nmark_ I'm trying to run make and it's not working? to compile this02:19
mad_manwhen i minimize the browser and other programs i lose them. they do not drop down to the panel. how do i get the program to drop down to the panel for easy mazimizing ?02:19
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A|i3Nsays to run 'make distclean' and 'make' but it's not running.02:19
mark__have you installed all the dev tools you needed?02:20
LeeJunFanomicron: I think reinstall only replaces missing files not overwrites existing ones. At least if I recall correctly that's what happened with me when I had this problem.02:20
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mark__leejunfan, i need some help with this02:20
warpzonehey guys, is there a way to revert back to a previous version of Xorg? I think the new update is doing me in02:20
mark__do i have any kernel patches to apply?02:20
jordan_uhow do I turn off ipv6 in konqueror?02:20
A|i3NI .. um.. don't know lol this is a newer installation - what packages do i need?02:20
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LeeJunFanmark__: why are you building a kernel?02:21
A|i3Nforgot i might actually need the compiler.. lol02:21
Hawkwindmark__: If you use your current .config file then no02:21
Hawkwindmark__: That's what I have always done and it works perfectly02:21
mark__sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-686 module-assistant build-essential fakeroot dh-make debconf libstdc+02:21
mark__+5 linux-headers-$(uname -r)02:21
mark__7. reboot02:21
HawkwindLeeJunFan: He's having crashing issues so he's trying to see if it's possibly something within Ubuntu's kernel causing issues with his dual core02:22
mark__type all that in minus the 7.reboot part into your konsole02:22
A|i3Ngood got. thank you. lol02:22
A|i3Ner good god.02:22
LeeJunFanHawkwind: ah, okay.02:22
LeeJunFanHawkwind: tried disabling framebuffer?02:22
mark__and it should look like sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-686 module-assistant build-essential fakeroot dh-make debconf libstdc++5 linux-headers-$(uname -r)02:22
jordan_uhow do I turn off ipv6 in konqueror?02:22
LeeJunFan!ipv602:23
HawkwindLeeJunFan: I don't think he did and I didn't think about it.  He did say it doesn't seem to freeze on the non SMP kernel, but he needs the SMP kernel of course unfortunately02:23
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv402:23
A|i3Ni got it. hehe. now i need my cd.02:24
LeeJunFan!framebuffer02:25
ubotuIf you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer02:25
omicronLeeJunFan: moving the old libGL.so* to trash and then apt-get --reinstall did the trick.. direct rendering is on.. =) thx for your help..!02:25
jordan_uLeeJunFan: ironically, because of my ipv6 problems that page JUST finished loading :)02:25
LeeJunFanomicron: nice, you're welcome.02:25
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mark__LeeJunFan, ill do both02:26
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mark__im excited about the new kernel02:26
LeeJunFanmark__: it's a good thing to learn to build your own either way - you learn a lot more about what a kernel does.02:27
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mark__and i inch my way ever closer to gentoo linux02:27
Homercan WINE run on AMD64?02:27
mark__no02:27
mark__or yes02:28
LeeJunFanHomer: it can, but it takes some hoop jumping.02:28
LeeJunFanHomer: codeweavers crossover office has statically compiled 32 bit libs so it work in a 64 bit environment, for 64 bit wine you'll want to check out a chroot environment.02:29
LeeJunFan!chroot02:29
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box02:29
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mark__gah02:32
mark__i forgot to boot into i386 kernel02:32
mark__my comp froze again ; ;02:32
mark__!framebuffer02:32
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LeeJunFanframbuffer is just a long shot, but I've had all kinds of odd issues not using framebuffer has solved.02:33
mark__anyone know why the flashplugin-nonfree will not install for me?02:33
LeeJunFanmark__: you get an error?02:33
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mark__yes02:33
mark__even tho i accept the liscence02:33
LeeJunFanmark__: hrm, not sure. I install mine the old fashioned way. I'm old school :) I download the tar.gz from adobe and just copy the xpt and so file to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/.02:34
mark__im gonna start doing that02:35
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mark__because this is annoying02:35
mark__ive remove --purged it and still the same error02:35
mark__btw, when i finish compiling my new kernel, will i have to reinstall my ndis drivers?02:35
elknof1hey how do i add a source to my sources.list, its a dir in my hd02:36
LeeJunFanmark__: yes.02:36
mark__hmm02:36
mark__ill ask how to make it load every time later02:36
rawrthank you02:36
rawrok02:36
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LeeJunFanmark__:  each kernel version has modules in /lib/modules/[version #] , so your new kernel won't find the ndis modules made for your other kernel.02:37
rawri think i can tell you that02:37
rawrlater02:37
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mark__ill have to compile a new one?02:37
LeeJunFanmark__: I think so. I've never used ndiswrapper.02:38
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mark__ok, no problem02:38
LeeJunFanmark__: so make sure you have the source downloaded before you boot into your new kernel because you probably won't have networking to dl it later.02:39
mark__yeah, ive got the latest source d/led already02:39
LeeJunFanmark__: you are compiling ubuntu's source tree though aren't you? or are you using a vanilla kernel from kernel.org?02:39
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mark__vanilla02:40
inteliwasphow can i get the channel list from xchat that wont scrol by in the server tab?02:40
Hawkwindinteliwasp: Window -> Channel List02:40
inteliwaspie to a new window or file02:40
inteliwaspok now i feel like an idiot :P02:41
elknof1hey how do i add a source to my sources.list, its a dir in my hd02:41
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mark__agh, what processor family would mine be?02:41
LeeJunFanelknof1: man sources.list02:41
LeeJunFanelknof1: basically instead of deb http:// you want deb file://02:42
mark__kinfocenter lists it at 602:42
mark__so basically the 6th kernel option or pentium-pro?02:42
elknof1LeeJunFan, the thing is that is not a file, is a whole directory...  so,,,  would it be the same?02:42
mark__yes elk02:43
elknof1LeeJunFan, ie would it be right    deb file://home/harry/Deskyop/paketes/     ??02:44
elknof1Desktop*02:44
LeeJunFanelknof1: yeah.02:46
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LeeJunFanelknof1: for instance mine is:02:46
LeeJunFandeb file:///media/Seagate120/junfan/ubuntu-i386 dapper main universe multiverse restricted02:46
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elknof1it says that it is a malformed line...02:47
elknof1LeeJunFan,  it says that it is a malformed line...02:47
LeeJunFanelknof1: put one more / after file:///02:48
LeeJunFanelknof1: I don't think that should matter though for that.02:49
elknof1LeeJunFan, ok the directory is in hda1, direction: /home/harry/Desktop/paketes/     all packages are stored there...02:49
elknof1LeeJunFan, ok ok  let me try02:49
elknof1LeeJunFanthanks02:49
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LeeJunFanelknof1: did that do it?02:49
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mark__leejunfan02:50
elknof1LeeJunFan, noup02:50
LeeJunFanelknof1: what's the whole line you have?02:50
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LeeJunFanyeah mark__02:50
mark__do you know where i would find out what family i should choose for my processor while building the kernel?02:50
elknof1deb file///home/harry/Desktop/paketes/02:50
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elknof1LeeJunFan, deb file///home/harry/Desktop/paketes/02:51
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william_I'm trying to configure my wireless lan on a emachine laptop.  Can someone help me02:51
LeeJunFanelknof1: deb file:///home/harry/Desktop/pakates dapper main02:51
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LeeJunFanelknof1: if it's setup as a proper repository.02:51
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LeeJunFanelknof1: a repository is more than just a directory with packages in it.02:51
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LeeJunFanmark__: what kind of processor do you have?02:52
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mark__intel core duo02:53
flavioribeirohi all.. anyone knows how can i enter in kde interface with root login?02:53
mark__566mhz fsb i believe02:53
MasterEvilAceflavioribeiro:  startx should work02:53
LeeJunFanmark__: should be P402:53
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mark__ok thanks02:53
elknof1LeeJunFan, thanks a lot, now it worked02:53
flavioribeirohm ill try02:53
tchungExcuse me, can anyone tell me which Firefox plug-in flash player is the best?02:53
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MasterEvilAcetchung: mozilla-flashplugin (i think it is) is what i installed, and it seems to work for me02:54
LeeJunFanelknof1: tchung the nonfree one02:54
LeeJunFanoops02:54
LeeJunFantchung: then nonfree one.02:54
william_can someone help with set up my wireless on a mobile AMD Athlon 64 processor 3200+02:54
thompatchung: there is no flash8 but !flash02:55
thompa!flash02:55
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:55
HawkwindNo new flash for Linux until after the first of the year when we get flash 902:55
Homerhey02:55
thompai would do everything on that first link anyway02:56
Homeryeah seriously f**k adobe02:56
Homeranyway02:56
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LeeJunFanHomer: seconded02:56
Homeria32-libs = allows to run 32-bit applications in AMD64?02:56
LeeJunFanHomer: no, it's needed to run 32 bit applications.02:56
thompawhat lame sites use flash anyway02:56
thompafor kids maybe02:57
LeeJunFanHomer: but it doesn't provide 32 bit versions of all the libs an app might need.02:57
Homerok02:57
Homerwell02:57
HomerI wanna get WINE working02:57
Homeron amd6402:57
Homershould I try? :P is it possible?02:57
LeeJunFanHomer: setup a chroot02:57
LeeJunFan!chroot02:57
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box02:57
Homerit won't work that way02:57
LeeJunFanit's not too hard and it works fine.02:57
thompai had xp, and just got rid of it. Im all linux now02:57
LeeJunFanHomer: it won't?02:57
tchungthanks guys02:57
Homerapperently02:57
Homerit least not with hardware acceleration02:58
HomerI think02:58
linuxkid2nvidia-glx-config errors here. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2415202:58
HomerI need it for a video game02:58
linuxkid2I need some help.02:58
linuxkid2That took forever pasting without X02:58
thompathe other pc has edubuntu, the kid wants flash for some sites, nagging at me02:58
LeeJunFanHomer: ah, hrm. Personally this is why I'm sticking with 32 bit OS for now. 64 bit doesn't really provide much improvement anyway.02:58
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thompaive been running both 64 and 3202:59
thompai meant i38602:59
linuxkid2I've never used anything but PowerPC and Pentium3203:00
Homerit doesnt? my linux is faasst :D03:00
Homermaybe it's in my mind or something03:00
Homerbut it stuff seems to run much faster then on Windows03:00
thompai think you should try the amd version when beta comes out maybe03:00
linuxkid2anyone looking at the pastebin?03:01
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HomerI might just make a windows partititon for games or something03:01
thompai had some boot problems on 64, but now . so many updates, seems to be booting03:01
Homerit works fine for me03:02
thompai think its also the hp bios03:02
Homerand plenty of 64-bit packages03:02
linuxkid2nvidia-glx-config errors here. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2415203:02
thompai formated the sata drive, now its all linux03:02
Homer18416 to be exact :p03:02
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linuxkid2What's up with IDE, ATA, SATA and SCSI? What are they?03:03
thompathe usb devices work better in ubuntu so far03:03
thompawith the HP media os it wont boot if you have any printer other than an hp plugged in03:03
Homerlinuxkid2: high speed device interfaces03:03
linuxkid2k03:04
linuxkid2which is better?03:04
HomerSATA03:04
Homerand SCSI03:04
Homerfastest03:04
Homerwell ATA isn't really one03:04
HomerI think ATA would be like a protocol03:04
LeeJunFanI think SATA has faster transfer speeds, but generally the scsi HD's are higher quality and therefore have higher real use throughput.03:05
Homeryes03:05
thompaim running a sata with a disconnected scsi, on amd64 duo core.03:05
linuxkid2ok03:05
Homerscsi is used in many servers03:05
linuxkid2My old box only has IDE.03:05
Homerit's very fast interface03:05
thompaalso there is an extra nvidia and onboard 2 nvidia devices03:05
Homermost only have parallel IDE03:05
Homersome now have serial IDE = SATA03:05
LeeJunFanyeah, 15,000 RPM doesn't hurt scsi any.03:05
linuxkid2Anyone looking at this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24152 ? I need some help.03:06
MasterEvilAcelinuxkid2: yeah, it JUST loaded for me (it was trying for 2 minutes )03:06
MasterEvilAcehave you tried modifying your xorg.conf manually?03:06
thompasata is faster over here03:07
linuxkid2Yes, I replaced the nv with nvidia in the Display section03:07
Homeri think sata might be faster03:07
thompathere is a different noise levels between these two, this one sounds sometimes louder03:07
MasterEvilAcelinuxkid2: and it errors when you start to startx, i imagine? what error do you get03:07
Homerthey both insanely fast03:07
Homersata is 150 MB / sec03:07
linuxkid2one minute...03:08
Homerwhich is like gigbit ethernet03:08
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linuxkid2MasterEvilAce: says "No Screens Found"03:08
linuxkid2Fatal errop 10403:08
linuxkid2*error03:09
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linuxkid2error parsing the config file03:09
linuxkid2oops...03:09
MasterEvilAcelinuxkid2: okay, do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   and follow through it (it's not too difficult). it will ask options , generally you can just hit ENTER through most of them. it will re-generate your xorg.conf, and generally it fixes problem03:09
linuxkid2ok. I forgot the command for that.03:10
thompa2.6.17-8-generic03:10
thompathats working real well anyway03:11
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linuxkid2package not found type error.03:11
linuxkid2xserver-xorg must not be it.03:11
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thompalinuxkidtwo: did you do nvidia-glx?03:11
MasterEvilAceit is.. maybe you need to install it?03:12
LeeJunFanMasterEvilAce: or dpkg-reconfigure -p critical xserver-xorg      --- will probably ask no questions.03:12
soulrider!mp403:12
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linuxkid2thompa: nvidia-glx-legacy. it's a RIVA TNT2. It said "xserxer-xorg is not install" mispelling. :$03:13
MasterEvilAcexserver-xorg03:13
thompai know that card03:13
linuxkid2there it goes03:13
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thompaits old card03:14
linuxkid2should I use kernel framebuffer stuff?03:15
MasterEvilAcei chose yes03:15
thompadoes it work right now?03:15
linuxkid2I'm running the config script03:15
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thompachange driver in xorg.conf file?03:15
MasterEvilAcehe had the "no screens found" and changing the driver from nv -> nvidia did not work, so i told him to do the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, which has always fixed that for me03:16
MasterEvilAcei break the xorg a lot :-/03:17
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linuxkid2Still working on it. thanks in advance03:18
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Zaireanyone know how to install flashplayer 8?03:19
Zairelike is there an apt source for it rather then the source tarball?03:19
Zaire-_-03:21
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linuxkid2success!!!!03:21
HawkwindZaire: No such thing for Linux03:21
Zaireyea actually there is03:21
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HawkwindZaire: Flash 7 is the highest for Linux.  We won't get a new flash until flash 9 is released for Linux after the first of the year03:22
HawkwindZaire: No, actually there isn't03:22
linuxkid2Flash is propriety software owned by Adobe Systems. no source there.03:22
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MasterEvilAcelinuxkid2: congrats! enjoy your gui03:22
ZaireI have the source tarball from adobe and either way how do I install it03:22
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HawkwindZaire: You can't.  It won't work03:22
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Zairethen how do I install 703:22
linuxkid2MasterEvilAce: Thanks. But I find myself using Terminals more and more.03:22
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linuxkid2Like any good linux user.03:22
Hawkwind!flash03:23
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:23
soulrideris there a way to remove an old kernel i dont want anymore?03:23
MasterEvilAcelinuxkid2: just open up a bunch of Konsoles and call it a day :)03:23
Hawkwindsoulrider: You can use adept, apt-get remove03:23
MasterEvilAcelinuxkid2: that way you get a fancy clock in the corner that shows you the time03:23
soulrider:O Hawkwind03:23
soulrideri didnt know it as that easy03:23
linuxkid2That's the best bit about Konsole is the tabbed windows and stuff.03:23
Hawkwindsoulrider: Though I strongly suggest always having atleast 2 kernels installed03:23
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Hawkwindsoulrider: That way if your normal kernel messes up or something, you can always reboot to the other one and see if things are working there03:24
linuxkid2just curios, is there a good Pac-Man clone for Linux?03:24
Hawkwindlinuxkid2: sudo apt-get install pacman03:24
linuxkid2cool.03:24
linuxkid2thanks everyone. bye. :-)03:25
Hawkwindlinuxkid2: apt-cache search <your-search-term-here>03:25
MasterEvilAceholy cow there's a pacman? That's getting installed.03:25
HawkwindIt's not that good IMO03:25
soulrideryea Hawkwind, i got 3 now, so i wanna remove the oldest one03:26
MasterEvilAceas long as it's a banana that engulfs harmful little floaty thingies, it's good enough03:26
Hawkwindsoulrider: Ah ok.  I usually keep 3 - 4 installed but then at times I do remove all but 203:26
HawkwindI have 2 installed now as I'm now running todays release of 2.6.18 :)03:26
MasterEvilAceDoes anyone else use Edgy + the Dapper theme? They made progress bars purple. Looks pretty awesome (not overdoing the purple like in the new purple theme)03:27
soulrider:O cool03:27
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MasterEvilAcehey, is there a GNOME color theme for KDE? So I can use that orange that gnome uses?03:28
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HawkwindMasterEvilAce: Look on kde-look.org03:28
Zairewell thats great the package I need to stream through firefox is somehow broken and won't install03:29
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HawkwindMasterEvilAce: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=4473003:30
HawkwindMasterEvilAce: I think that's an icon theme possibly  but something similar03:30
satemplerRiddell: you around03:30
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flavioapt doesnt found 'amsn'. why? :|03:32
Zairewhere does firefox install to on kubuntu?03:33
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MasterEvilAceZaire: /usr/bin/firefox03:34
MasterEvilAceor wait is that just the executable?03:35
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satemplercan any one help out with a  edgy problem, no one is in ubuntu+103:35
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dan_hey03:35
Zaireflash isn't accepting that directory03:35
dan_how can i make vlc play wmv's03:35
satemplerit's not that hard a question03:35
Zaireit wants mozilla03:35
MasterEvilAcesatempler: go for it, atleast a few of us use edgy03:35
dan_what browser are you using03:35
dan_zaire03:35
satempleri just need to restart kubuntu powermanager03:35
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Zairethe latest mozilla that was available to apt03:36
Zaireor rather firefox03:36
dan_oh03:36
dan_its in a different directory than mozilla03:36
dan_i cant remember which03:36
dan_but i had the same problem03:36
LeeJunFandoesn't edgy user powernowd?03:36
dan_its in like bin or something03:36
satemplerwell ya but thats not it03:36
dan_so can anyone help me03:37
satempleri need the power meter applet in the systray back up03:37
dan_i wanna watch wmv's03:37
dan_but i cant get vlc to play them03:37
LeeJunFansatempler: so you just need to start the app?03:37
satemplerLeeJunFan: ya03:37
Zaireyou need the w32 codecs I believe03:37
satemplerthats it03:37
echo1___Where can I track down a good codec pack?03:37
satemplerit was started it just crashed03:37
Zaire!mp303:37
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:37
LeeJunFankpowersave I think.03:37
dan_oh yeah i knew that but i cant find it03:38
LeeJunFansatempler: alt-f2 kpowersave ?03:38
satemplerLeeJunFan: in Kubuntu Edgy it's kde-guidence-poersave03:38
satempleroops powersave03:38
satemplerkpowersave isn't installed03:38
NeoSakiwoot tweaked my ATI 9700 pro to run glxgears @ 10200fps03:38
dan_anyone know where i can get the w32 codecs03:39
dan_i cant find it in synaptic03:39
ZaireIm trying to load the page and find the one I got for you03:39
satemplerdan_: ya in google search for Ubuntu PLF03:39
dan_ok i'll try that03:39
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satemplergo to ubuntu fr thing and there will be sources.list lines03:40
Zairedan: wget -c http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/non-free/w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb03:40
echo1___NeoSaki: 8.26.9?03:40
Zairecopy that link into sli03:40
Zairecli*03:40
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NeoSakiecho1___: fglrx and the propriotery ones, yeah03:42
Zaireonce you get that package cd into the directory and sudo chmod +x it and then sudo dpkg -i <packagename>03:42
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echo1___NeoSaki: which kernel?03:42
LeeJunFanawe crap, well I'm going to upgrade to edgy on this machine - it can't be any worse than any version of windows :p03:43
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LeeJunFanI normally keep with the devel version on this machine. Been lazy this cycle.03:44
NeoSaki2.6.15-27-38603:45
satemplerlol03:45
NeoSaki@ echo1___03:45
MasterEvilAceLeeJunFan: enjoy, edgy is pretty cool03:45
satemplerby the way LeeJunFan kpowersave isn't here03:45
LeeJunFanMasterEvilAce: yeah, I suspect my changes will be minimal - I'm running newest kde and amarok anyway.03:46
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LeeJunFanmy problem is that something will go wrong, and someone will call me needing me to do some work for them and my system will be broke - never fails.03:47
satemplerlol03:47
flaviomy sound boxes are USB. what can i do to make the boxes play?03:47
LeeJunFan1193 packages to upgrade, this'll take a while. Glad I keep a local mirror.03:47
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satemplerbut being a devel  distro It will be fixed almost momentarilly03:48
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MasterEvilAceis plastik or crystal the default window decorations style?03:49
MasterEvilAcefor kde03:49
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flaviomy sound boxes are USB. what can i do to make the boxes play?03:49
NeoSakiplastik, I think, MasterEvilAce03:49
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NeoSakiflavio: search on the net for <sound box model> linux install guide03:50
LeeJunFanyeah, I think so.03:50
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flavioNeoSaki: thanks one more time03:50
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echo1___NeoSaki: Can you guide me through fixing my install?  Apparenlty the kernel module has the wrong driver so no 3d accel for me...03:52
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NeoSakiecho1___: For an ATI card?03:53
echo1___yes03:54
LeeJunFanoh, I knew it - this isn't going to be a smooth edgy update for me. hehe03:54
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NeoSakiecho1___: m'kay, first off which kernel are you using?03:56
echo1___same03:58
MasterEvilAceLeeJunFan: what happened?03:58
maplehow do I kill ident2?03:58
echo1___bart@echo1:~$ uname -r03:58
echo1___2.6.15-27-38603:58
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LeeJunFanMasterEvilAce: just dependancy hell, files in existing packages conflicting with ones to be installed, etc...03:59
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tchunghi all, I am having problem installing flash player03:59
tchungafter the installation, mozilla still asks for plug-in03:59
LeeJunFanMasterEvilAce: openoffice and firefox giving me crap, that's all so far.03:59
MasterEvilAceLeeJunFan: lol. I remember having a bunch of errors.. i basically just kept running Update/Upgrade/Dist-upgrade with the -f line.. eventually everything managed to sort itself out04:00
Astroman1hi i need help to setup kubuntu on my computer. can anyone help me plz !04:00
flavioNeoSaki: didnt found. :| u know any conf that i can change to make the boxes work?04:00
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NeoSakiecho1: sorry bout that, installing some games xD04:01
LeeJunFanMasterEvilAce: yeah, I've already tried that a few times, I just removed openoffice.org-gtk (don't know how it got on my sys anyway).04:01
MasterEvilAceAstroman1: just ask your question / problem in here, and someone will jump at it :)04:01
NeoSakiecho1: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx04:01
NeoSakiecho1: echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules04:02
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NeoSakiecho1: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_old04:02
[-KaSatKa-] Should i update to the 2.6.18 kernel?04:02
NeoSakiecho1 sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:02
Astroman1after filling the progress bar, my screen is black and nothing happend. my keyboard dont respond.04:02
Astroman1i can only restart my computer with the swith04:02
Homer[-KaSatKa-] : depends, you got driver problems?04:03
Astroman1graphics04:03
LeeJunFan!framebuffer04:03
ubotuIf you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer04:03
LeeJunFanAstroman1: check that out ^^04:03
kyronhey all, I have some of my students attempting to install kubuntu. I'm a Gentoo user and no nothing of the install process. One of the reported problems for one of the students is that the install process (booting the install CD that is) "freezes" on a blank screen. I'd like to point the user to the proper web page for troubleshooting the install boot CD...04:04
Astroman1its me lol...04:04
kyronLOL04:04
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kyronAstroman1, well well04:05
MasterEvilAceLOL04:05
kyrontold ya you'd find help here04:05
LeeJunFanhah, I was just about to tell him to look at that link too.04:05
MasterEvilAcethat's hilarious kyron, leejunfan04:05
bilgisayar_hi to everybody04:05
MasterEvilAceer04:05
Astroman1that's right04:05
MasterEvilAcenot leejun04:05
MasterEvilAceastroman04:05
kyronAstroman1, if your computer freezes, than I would suspect hardware problems..04:05
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Zaireyea one would think lol04:05
Astroman1k04:06
Homerkyron: can I be your student?04:06
kyronbtw, to all other users, really horrible to learn about lilo, I will definately miss that chap's braodcasts.04:06
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Homerkyron: what do you teach?04:06
bilgisayar_i am a newbie and i want to install multimedia codecs is instlling automatix good for my kubuntu does it causes problems?04:06
kyronHomer, mwehehehe... you might regret that, I tend to be pedentic and sadistic ;)04:06
Homerlol04:06
kyronHomer, and, as I said, I'm more of a Gentoo user/installer04:06
NeoSakibilgisayar_ automatix is a good start, but the codecs are illegal if you live in the states04:07
LeeJunFanon an unrelated FOSS person in the news - everyone else hear about Hans Reiser being suspect in his wifes disappearance?04:07
Homerubotu, tell bilgisayar_ about easyubuntu04:07
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bilgisayar_no i dont live in states04:07
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kyronAstroman1, you might want to run memtest86 on your machine to at least check for flakey RAM04:07
bilgisayar_what is easyubuntu04:07
MasterEvilAcekyron: What class are you teaching ?? What class messes with linux?04:07
bilgisayar_?04:07
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Homer!easyubuntu04:07
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.04:07
bilgisayar_ok i ll be reding that page for a while04:08
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kyronAstroman1, and I would also suspect that Kubuntu has a way to boot the install process _without_ framebuffer04:09
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kyronALL: am-I correct?04:09
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echo1NeoSaki I'm trying to install the ati fglrx drivers04:09
echo1the ones released today...04:09
Astroman1well i just read something about that..04:09
kyronMasterEvilAce, booring, it's not a Linux class, it's BASH/AWK scripting class ;)04:09
Astroman1i agree !04:09
Astroman1i'll be back i'll try something04:10
Astroman1thx04:10
MasterEvilAcekyron: okay, last question, if he's in your class why are you IRCing to him? lol04:10
MasterEvilAcethat's so funny04:10
kyronAstroman1, first run memtest86, then try booting without framebuffer enabled.... if it freezes, at least the nice useless beautyfull graphics won't hide _very important_ boot process messages04:10
NeoSakiecho1 okay...04:10
echo1the commands you gave are open aren't they?04:10
kyronMasterEvilAce, cuz it's 22h10 here :)04:11
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Astroman1cool04:11
Astroman1i'll be back04:11
kyronoops...forgot to tell him memtest could be looong04:11
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NeoSakiecho1 open?04:12
NeoSakiif you typed them like that, it should get you close to where you need to be04:12
echo1k04:12
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NeoSakitell me when you get to the last command, which opens your config file04:13
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_paulhey, can anyone tell me how i can get my wireless card working?04:14
echo1ok...done04:15
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_paulanyone at all?04:15
echo1neosaki done04:15
_pauli just forget where to go to activate the connection with it04:15
NeoSakiecho1: okay, find this: Section      "Device"04:16
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echo1done04:16
echo1there are two device sections04:16
NeoSakiand under it there should be  Driver     "ati"04:16
echo1yes04:16
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NeoSakichange the "ati" to "fglrx"04:16
deadsoulKmail could not find new post in my gmail account although there are some04:17
_paulim gonna be t3h spamzorz until i get answers!!!04:17
echo1done04:17
deadsoulWhat can be the problem?04:17
deadsoulKmail could not find new post in my gmail account although there are some. What can be the problem?*04:17
_paulplease someone help me with my wireless card!  where do i go to pick the different kinds of connections?04:18
echo1K -> Internet -> Wireless Assistant ??04:19
MasterEvilAceI don't have wireless.. but Menu -> Internet should have a few wireless tools04:19
trappistdeadsoul: I've found that gmail's pop interface is really slow.  it's probably deliberate.04:20
_paulnaw, i know i need to use the eth1 connection04:21
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NeoSakiecho1: ok save and exit04:21
echo1done04:21
NeoSakiecho1: fglrxinfo04:21
deadsoulThank you trappist...04:21
NeoSakiecho1: tell me whats it be saying04:22
echo1display: :0.0  screen: 004:22
echo1OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org04:22
echo1OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect04:22
echo1OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)04:22
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NeoSakiecho1: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list04:25
NeoSakiand add these to your list04:25
NeoSakideb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/ dapper main04:25
NeoSakideb http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main04:25
NeoSakideb-src http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main04:25
NeoSakiat the bottom04:25
NeoSakiwget http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/quinn.key.asc -O - | sudo apt-key add -04:25
NeoSakisudo apt-get update04:26
NeoSakisudo apt-get update04:27
NeoSakierm...04:27
NeoSakiwoops already told you that04:27
echo1err04:27
echo1when i did the wget i got:04:27
echo1display: :0.0  screen: 004:27
echo1OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org04:27
echo1OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect04:27
echo1OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)04:27
echo1err04:27
echo1Cannot write to `quinn.key.asc' (Broken pipe).04:27
NeoSakisudo apt-get install compiz xserver-xgl libgl1-mesa xserver-xorg libglitz-glx1 compiz-kde cgwd cgwd-themes04:28
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echo1nm fixed that04:28
NeoSakishit, echo1, I gotta goto work04:29
echo1lol ok04:29
NeoSakiWill you be on tomorrow morning?04:29
echo1yeah04:29
NeoSakilike 8-11am cst?04:29
echo1yeah I should be around for an hour or so atleast04:29
NeoSakiken, I'll finish up with ya then04:29
NeoSakisorry about that04:29
echo1awesome04:29
echo1np at all04:29
MasterEvilAcecompiz never worked for me ;(04:30
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MasterEvilAcein dapper04:30
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NeoSakiMasterEvilAce: Works great for me04:30
LeeJunFanMasterEvilAce: I had it working, but didn't really care for having to use gnome window decore with kde to make it work.04:30
MasterEvilAceah04:30
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MasterEvilAceI remember my desktop would not remember the resolution during reboot.. no windows really 'worked'.. i remember it was really glitchy to the point of being unusable. sucked :( looks cool though from the videos04:31
MasterEvilAceno real functionality.. just pure eye-candy though04:31
echo1I just wanna be able to play FlightGear04:32
echo1:)04:32
echo1but compiz would be oh so awesome04:32
LeeJunFanMasterEvilAce: yeah, considering there's like 3 different ways to go about it doesn't help lessen the confusion either.04:32
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LeeJunFanI ended up setting mine up in .Xsession so when I chose to login with default WM at kdm it loaded xgl - otherwize it gave me normal X/kde.04:32
MasterEvilAceI heard XGL or what not was supposed to come by default in some version of KDE or kubuntu or something?? I don't remember specifics.. or am i imagining/confusing something04:33
LeeJunFaninstead of editing the kdm configs and having it do xgl no matter what.04:33
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LeeJunFanMasterEvilAce: it was supposed to be in edgy, but I don't know about kde. I think ubuntu was the focus of that suggestion.04:33
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MasterEvilAceoh, lame04:34
echo1super lame04:34
[mecha] hi04:34
mark_IM BACK04:34
MasterEvilAcegnome gets all the stuff nobody wants to live without, but that's like the only eyecandy IN gnome :P04:34
mark_with a new kernel built by me!!!04:34
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echo1nice!04:34
LeeJunFanwell, afaik no one has made it work correctly with kde window decor so rather than have kubuntu have dependancies on gnome...04:34
MasterEvilAceyeah, makes sense04:35
[mecha] i've installed linux for my first time, i'm trying to use firefox, but it isn't work04:35
mark_0.o04:35
[mecha] i'v extracted firefox file in a dir and executed the file "firefox-bin"04:35
[mecha] and don't append nothing04:35
[mecha] con u help me?04:36
[mecha] can04:36
mark_just use "sudo apt-get install firefox" in konsole04:36
DeadSouLTry to install it from K> Add/Remove Programs04:36
DeadSouLor do what mark_ said04:36
mark_add/remove programs is evil04:36
mark_guhhhh i gotta drink this nasty antibiotic04:37
mark_yuck04:37
LeeJunFanapt-get -f dist-upgrade is evil :) But I'm doing it anyway.04:37
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LeeJunFanhehe04:37
DeadSouL:)04:37
mark_lol04:37
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mark_brb gonna reinstall my vidia driver now that i've installed the dev files for xorg04:38
mark_nvidia*04:38
MasterEvilAce-f dist-upgrade is godlike04:38
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DragnslcrWell, so much for dual-booting into Windows04:38
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DragnslcrKubuntu and/or grub managed to break it04:39
MasterEvilAceKUBUNTU IS INFALLIBLE!04:39
MasterEvilAcehow dare you04:39
DragnslcrHeh04:39
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LeeJunFanwindows doesn't need any help to be broken, don't blame it on linux :p04:39
DragnslcrHeh, true, but now it's even more broken04:40
echo1why bother with windows :p04:40
LeeJunFanDragnslcr: what are your symptoms with dual booting?04:40
MasterEvilAceIt shouldn't have broken it. It sounds like a user-error. you should submit a bug report and complain about users have it too easy when it comes to breaking stuff04:40
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DragnslcrWindows complains about a broken disk04:41
DragnslcrIt didn't exactly give much for details04:41
DragnslcrAnd if I disconnect the second disk that I installed Kubuntu too, so that it only has the first disk to use, grub chokes04:42
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LeeJunFanDragnslcr: if you check /boot/grub/menu.lst what is windows supposed to be booting from there?04:43
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LeeJunFanroot            (hd0,0)?04:43
LeeJunFanchainloader +1 ?04:43
DragnslcrYup04:44
AWOSDevI'm not sure how to set up a PLIP connection and I looked all around the documentation and my Linux (albeit Red Hat) book and I can't figure it out.04:44
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LeeJunFanDragnslcr: maybe try installing grub again 'sudo grub-install hd0'04:45
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mark_oh my god04:46
mark_my computer crashed again04:46
MasterEvilAcethat's what you get for compiling yourself :P04:46
LeeJunFanmark_: have you tried disabling framebuffer yet?04:46
mark_nah, it was happening before on a normal kernel04:46
mark_nah leejunfan04:46
mark_that wiki scared me04:47
LeeJunFanmark_: it's easy.04:47
LeeJunFanmark_: just go edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and for the kernel version you are using add vga=normal to the cmdline args for the kernel.04:47
LeeJunFanand reboot.04:47
mark_ok ill try04:48
mark_just a sec04:48
AWOSDevI'm assuming setting up a PLIP connection requires something to do with ifconfig but I can't figure out what.04:48
mark_if my comp freaks out one more time im reinstalling ubuntu and wiping my hard drive04:48
DragnslcrLeeJunFan- entry looks the same. Would I be any better off installing grub to my Linux drive instead?04:48
mark_of course im backing up my new pet kernel04:48
maltaethiron!eth004:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about eth0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:48
maltaethironhey guys, who can tell me how you can choose the way you get on the internet? (like choosing between eth0 and eth1)04:49
LeeJunFanDragnslcr: no, grub needs to be on the mbr of the disk your PC boots from. The entry will look the same in the config but the mbr has now been updated.04:49
MasterEvilAcemaltaethiron: system settings-> network settings ->04:50
lupine_85maltaethiron: assuming both are connected up, you need to choose a default route04:50
LeeJunFanDragnslcr: I've never seen that exact problem you're having though.04:50
maltaethironok, well its on my other laptop04:50
maltaethironim fixing it for a friend04:50
lupine_85(i.e. tell ubuntu which interface to send your packets to)04:50
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DragnslcrLeeJunFan- I'll try another reboot tomorrow and see if it fixed it. If not, I'll write down the exact error message04:50
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mark_no menu.list lee04:51
maltaethironthanks04:51
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MasterEvilAcenp04:51
maltaethironhehe04:51
mark_nvm i forgot the space04:51
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maltaethironok guys, new problem for maltaethiron04:52
maltaethironthe eth1 interface wont enable04:53
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maltaethironit goes enabled for like a second, then goes back to disabled...and i already disabled the ethernet device04:53
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MasterEvilAcemaltaethiron: perhaps trouble trying to connect?04:54
AWOSDevYou know, maltaethiron, I have that same probelm04:54
AWOSDev*problem04:54
AWOSDevwhen I try to disable my eth0, wlan0 comes with.04:54
maltaethironbut what im saying, MasterEvilAce, is that it wont even enable04:54
maltaethironlike...04:55
MasterEvilAceah04:55
maltaethironidk, could there be something wrong with the card?04:55
maltaethironi worked two days ago!04:55
maltaethironlol04:55
AWOSDevmaltaethiron, what card is it? and is it WLAN or eth?04:55
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maltaethironeth04:56
maltaethironeth104:56
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mark_ok done04:56
AWOSDevI know but like mty wlan0 is really eth1, so just asking.04:56
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AWOSDevPCMCIA, PCIX or onboard?04:56
mark_hey, how do i add a bootsplash menu to my custom kernel?04:56
maltaethironum..its builtin, so im gonna assume onboard?04:57
AWOSDev**sorry not PCI express I meant MiniPCI.04:57
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AWOSDevyes onboard == builtin04:57
arunkalehello04:57
AWOSDevthat sucker came with two builtins?04:57
maltaethironbuilt it ethernet and wireless04:57
AWOSDevoh......eth0 is wireless then?04:57
maltaethironnaw, eth0 is the ethernet04:58
maltaethironeth1 is wireless04:58
AWOSDevthen eth1 is the wireless04:58
AWOSDevahhhhhhhhhhhhhh04:58
AWOSDevyeah same problem here.04:58
AWOSDevNot even a hint of a clue on how to fix it.04:58
maltaethirondamn04:58
mark_awos, go to system settings and networking and disable your built in ethernet04:58
maltaethironwell, it's not my computer04:58
AWOSDevI have a 100' cable to my living room right now :P04:58
maltaethironand at least the internet works when you plug an eithernet cord into it -P04:58
mark_or whoever has the problem04:58
maltaethiron=P04:58
maltaethiron*04:58
AWOSDevmark_, when I disable the eth0 (like maltaethiron) eth1 comes with.04:59
mark_mal04:59
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mark_does your system settings show your wireless card at all?04:59
maltaethironyeah!04:59
maltaethironthats whats pissin me off04:59
mark_and what brand and version is it?04:59
maltaethironer..04:59
mark_lspci04:59
AWOSDevmaltaethiron, after I disable eth0 I have to reboot.  THEN it accepts Ethernet again.04:59
mark_use it on konsole04:59
AWOSDevmark_ yes mine does to04:59
mark_yours are probably broadcom05:00
AWOSDevmark_ I have a Linksys WPC54G (commonly known as Broadcom 4318)05:00
mark_yep05:00
AWOSDevyep!05:00
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mark_you've got ndiswrapper all set up right?05:00
AWOSDevI had to use ndiswrapper for it to even recognise it05:00
AWOSDevYes I do...05:00
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maltaethironmark_: what am i looking for in this ugly pile of text?05:00
mark_use sudo rmmod bcm43xx05:00
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AWOSDevand it connects to the access point, asks me for my WEP key, it connects05:00
narg_I installed kverbos, but its erroring when attempting to open the standard verb file. Any idea why?05:00
maltaethironi cant exactly pastebin it...*sigh*05:01
Josh_can anyone help me with adept05:01
AWOSDevmark_ I already rmmoded that.05:01
mark_[and then sudo rmmod ndiswrapper05:01
mark_hmm05:01
Josh_adept froze while installing/downloading flash05:01
Josh_i restarted my computer05:01
Josh_and now it is in read only mode and says to close myother one05:01
mark_has your wireless never worked at all?05:01
AWOSDevwhat's adept?05:01
Josh_but i don't know what to close cause there's no adept app to close05:01
AWOSDevmark_ Not in Linux05:01
mark_adept is package manager in kubuntu05:01
AWOSDevmark_ in Windows it's iffy...not for a week05:01
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mark_hmmm05:02
maltaethironlol05:02
AWOSDevI have real Kubuntu on my router/server/everything else though.05:02
mark_awos you shoulda apt-got kubuntu05:02
mark_fuller05:02
maltaethironlol, apt-got05:02
AWOSDevOh didn't even know I could :P05:02
maltaethironthe past tense of apt-get05:02
mark_yep05:03
AWOSDev:)05:03
mark_it will get you most all of the kde stuff05:03
AWOSDevI know I don't like gaim I want Konversation!05:03
satemplerany one know how to get the power applet in the systray in edgy back, its not klaptop or kpowersave05:03
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AWOSDevkpowersaveD with a D on the end05:03
satemplerthe package is kde-guidance-powersave05:03
AWOSDevis what I use05:03
AWOSDevat least in SuSE when I actually cared05:04
satemplernope05:04
maltaethironlol, like strong bad "powersave....'d!"05:04
satemplernot in edgy05:04
Josh_anyone download flash and it take a while?05:04
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maltaethironit didnt take extremely long for me05:04
mark_flash wont install with the deb package for me05:04
AWOSDevmark_ the Broadcom keeps telling Windows that there's a resource conflict with nothing.05:04
mark_guess macromedia hateses me05:04
maltaethironheh05:05
AWOSDevYes, that's right, there's a resource conflict with nothing.05:05
satemplerhow can i query a package to find out the contents of it05:05
maltaethironwell wait05:05
mark_lol05:05
maltaethironflash 9?05:05
AWOSDevmark_ I hate Flash anyway05:05
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mark_flash 9 is coming soon05:05
Josh_whatever the most updated flash is05:05
arunkaleI just ran Adept and I get this error: You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.05:05
maltaethironbut paul loves homestar!!05:05
AWOSDevAnd I will still hate it :P05:05
Hawkwindmark_: Not til after the first of the year05:05
arunkalewhat do i do?05:05
Josh_arunkale: i got that message too05:05
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mark_hopefully 9 will work out the crap05:05
mark_><05:05
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Josh_arunkale: i've been trying to get help about it05:05
mark_stupid macrodobe05:05
HawkwindHomer: Good morning!05:05
HawkwindErmmm05:05
HawkwindHobbsee: Good morning!05:05
mark_reverse engineer flash already05:06
arunkaleJosh_: any luck?05:06
AWOSDevmacrodobe...that's funny...05:06
mark_hey hawkwind05:06
Josh_arunkale: nope, i can't figure out how to kill the last adept app that was on i guess05:06
HawkwindHey mark_05:06
mark_i wanna attach a bootsplash to my new linux kernel05:06
Josh_arunkale: and im not gettin too much help here05:06
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AWOSDevNormally I don't repeat my questions, but it's pretty for back in the scrollbuffer.05:06
mark_how to??05:06
Hawkwindmark_: Did compiling the kernel solve the issues ?05:06
Josh_Jucato: you in here?05:06
AWOSDevI need help setting up a PLIP connection to another laptop.05:06
DeadSouLHow can I add Firefox shortcut to >K?05:06
HawkwindJosh_: He's not here05:06
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mark_no, but installing the driver off the website did05:07
maltaethironok guys, well thanks for the help...im gonna go cry myself to death now05:07
mark_either that or the framebuffer thing05:07
mark_malt05:07
Hobbseehey Hawkwind!05:07
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mark_lets work thru urs now05:07
Hawkwindmark_: You'd have to patch the new kernel for bootsplash support05:07
AWOSDevOkay maltaethiron05:07
mark_aghhh05:07
AWOSDevLet us know if you don't die :P05:07
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maltaethironlol, ok awondev05:07
Hawkwindmark_: I haven't seen a bootsplash in yearssssss, so I have no use for that :)05:07
AWOSDevmaltaethiron05:07
Josh_anyone know how to fix this error: You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.05:07
AWOSDevmaltaethiron do 'lspci | grep Broadcom05:08
mark_i forgive my new kernel, its so fast05:08
AWOSDev'05:08
HawkwindJosh_: Do you have adept open and running ?05:08
maltaethironwhat, in konsole?05:08
AWOSDevyes05:08
mark_i was running my processors at halfspeed and didnt notice it05:08
mark_yes05:08
Hawkwindmark_: So you compiled the 2.6.18 kernel with my how-to ?05:08
mark_yes05:08
red_which is better gnome or kde05:08
mark_cept i cut some of the crap out of mine05:08
Hawkwindred_: Since you're in #Kubuntu, we'll answer KDE :P05:08
mark_like toshiba laptop support05:08
Josh_Hawkwind well i have it open now, but it won't let me install anything05:08
AWOSDevred_, Don't come to a KDE channel expecting fair advice :)05:08
fyrmedicHelp, I can't get one of my hdd's to mount. It is a NTFS drive that has all of my music on it!!!05:09
red_i know, i just wanted to see what kind of answer i got05:09
AWOSDevred_ personally I hate Gnome because it's stupid idiotic and made for dumb people...like Windows XP05:09
red_thnaks05:09
Hawkwind!ntfs05:09
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse05:09
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Hawkwindfyrmedic: ^^^^^^^^^05:09
fyrmedicany suggestions05:09
mark_have fun fyrmedic05:09
AWOSDevfyrmedic, it isn't that hard to mount NTFS.  did you try 'sudo' before the 'mount'?05:09
HawkwindJosh_: Try closing it and using apt-get install <package-name> from a terminal05:09
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maltaethironawondev: i typed your garble text..05:10
echo1err, adept refuses to start05:10
red_dont forget sudo infront of it05:10
maltaethironnow teh whaT?05:10
AWOSDeve.g. 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1'05:10
echo1it isnt running, but it did crash on its last run05:10
AWOSDevmaltaehtiron - did it print anything about Broadcom?05:10
arunkaleJosh_: I think i got it, hold on.. will let you know05:10
fyrmedicI did it through "System Settings" in the  GUI. I am a terminal illiterate05:10
mark_ look for a wireless looking name in there05:10
mark_llike broadcom05:10
maltaethironit says the following:05:10
mark_dont do it05:10
DeadSouLHow can I add Firefox shortcut to >K after installing by the help of console?05:10
echo1lol05:10
Hawkwindfyrmedic: Time to learn the terminal.  It's the strength of Linux :)05:11
HawkwindDeadSouL: To your menu you mean ?05:11
AWOSDevDeadSouL: kbuildsyoca05:11
Josh_arunkale: thanks05:11
mark_terminal is ur friend05:11
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arunkaleJosh_: by any chance, did you do an update recently?05:11
fyrmedicI know. I am working on it....05:11
echo1speaking of, how can i figure out why adept wont run05:11
HawkwindAWOSDev: That's kbuildsycoca  :P05:11
echo1it crashed on its last run05:11
DeadSouLYeah to my menu Hawkwind.05:12
fyrmedicI am picking it up slowly...05:12
mark_do sudo killall adept echo?05:12
AWOSDevAh crap...thanks Hawkwind :)05:12
Josh_arunkale: i don't think so05:12
HawkwindDeadSouL: How did you install it ?05:12
AWOSDevOh yeah that reminds me of my other question.05:12
mark_do sudo killall adept echo1?05:12
DeadSouLAWOSDev do i have to write it intp console or where?05:12
maltaethironEthernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02)   (next line)    Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)05:12
echo1bah!05:12
AWOSDevDeadSouL: yes05:12
echo1i did kill05:12
maltaethironawosdev ^^^^05:12
HawkwindDeadSouL: Wait, how did you install it ?05:12
echo1without sudo05:12
mark_argh a bcm43xx05:12
mark_!!05:12
DeadSouLthanks a lot05:12
AWOSDevmaltaethiron: YES!!!!!!!05:12
mark_do rmmod bcm43xx and rmmod ndiswrapper05:13
AWOSDevmaltaethiron: We have the *EXACT* same cards05:13
mark_plus sudo05:13
Hawkwindmaltaethiron: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18517405:13
maltaethironlol cool05:13
AWOSDevand the exact same problem.05:13
mark_then modprobe ndiswrapper05:13
AWOSDevmark_ Yes I've already done that and it doesn't work05:13
mark_your card is dead05:13
mark_ive given up on it05:13
mark_lol05:13
DeadSouLHawkwind: "sudo apt-get install firefox" I wrote it in console05:13
satemplermaltaethiron: i had to use ndiswrapper05:13
HawkwindAWOSDev: If you have a broadcomm chip, read that URL I just pasted05:13
satemplermaltaethiron: i have the same card05:14
AWOSDevIt's still coming up.05:14
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AWOSDevI have a slllllllllllllllllllllllooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww DNS server05:14
HawkwindDeadSouL: Ok.  Then type:  kbuildsycoca in a terminal and it should update your menus for you05:14
satemplermaltaethiron: if you would like there are drivers that work with the bcm43xx driver05:14
AWOSDevI still need help with PCIC...05:14
AWOSDevdoh, PLIP05:14
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mark_i dont understand fwcutter05:14
Josh_hawkwind how do i kill an app in the terminal?05:15
mark_good thing i dont have to use it XD05:15
AWOSDevJosh_ killall -9 nameofapp05:15
HawkwindJosh_: Several ways.  killall <app>05:15
DeadSouLTahnks Hawkwind05:15
maltaethironsatempler: so basicaly i need drivers for the card? thats it?05:15
HawkwindDo NOT use -905:15
DeadSouLthanks*05:15
linuxkid2I want to set up a simple web server. I'm thinking LighTTPD, but I couldn't get that to work with PHP before.05:15
satemplermaltaethiron: yes05:15
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arunkaleJosh_: i fixed it :)05:15
HawkwindAWOSDev: kill -9 should be used a very last resort05:15
satemplermaltaethiron: some sort of windows sys driver05:15
AWOSDevHawkwind, none of my apps close unless I do -9.  then again, none of the apps I resort to 'killall' for anyway can use anything *but* -9 :)05:15
HawkwindJosh_: You can also do:  ps aux | grep <app>  and find the PID# then kill PID#05:16
DeadSouLHawkwind:05:16
mark_bcmwl5.sys most likely05:16
maltaethironsatempler: so you've got the same card..did you start off with this problem?05:16
DeadSouLkbuildsycoca running...05:16
DeadSouLReusing existing ksycoca05:16
DeadSouLkio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!05:16
flaviowhat i need to install to make my s-video output?05:16
satemplermaltaethiron: be warned you will not have 802.11G speeds with bcm43xx driver05:16
flaviowhat i need to install to make my s-video output works?05:16
Josh_arunkale: how did you do it?05:16
linuxkid2I thought NDISWrapper used the .inf driver.05:16
AWOSDevDeadSouL: that's normal (at least for my computer)05:16
mark_ya it does05:16
HawkwindDeadSouL: Restart X will also do it05:16
mark_hush linuxkid05:16
linuxkid2flavio: what video card?05:16
maltaethironsatempler: totally ok...it's just for the weekend05:16
arunkaleJosh_: run sudo apt-get update in the terminal05:16
mark_bcmwl5.inf05:16
DeadSouLOk it is installed. Thanks Hawkwind and AWOSDev05:16
linuxkid2mark__ sorry :( what I do?05:16
satemplermaltaethiron: but ndiswrapper makes the g speeds05:16
AWOSDevI followed the Wiki how-to on NDISwrapper05:16
AWOSDevDeadSouL: no problem :)05:16
HawkwindDeadSouL: You're welcome05:17
satemplermaltaethiron: ok then simple05:17
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satemplerfallow the instructions here one sec05:17
maltaethironok05:17
josh__openoffice will not start up!!!05:17
josh__i have something to print by tomorrow!05:17
Josh_arunkale: what does that do?05:17
mark_" I thought NDISWrapper used the .inf driver."> usurped my authority05:17
flaviolinuxkid2: geforce 440mx 64mb05:17
josh__it shows that its starting up and then nothing happens05:17
josh__why is this?05:17
boxhello05:17
arunkaleJosh_: It will tell you exactly where the error is, run that and paste what you see in a pastebin, i'll tell you the next step then05:18
linuxkid2flavio: try the nvidia driver.05:18
Josh_arunkale : and did yours end saying --configure -a' to crrect the problem05:18
linuxkid2!nvidia > flavio05:18
AWOSDevJosh__ is it just slow?05:18
josh__how do i see the error?05:18
boxcan anyone here help me with asian language input?05:18
josh__and no i've tried opening it a couple times in a row like 10 minutes ago05:18
Hawkwindjosh__: Have you tried starting it from a terminal/konsole to see if it gives you errors ?05:18
arunkaleJosh_: yes.. run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' and it will fix itself05:18
satemplerok maltaethiron here it is http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11557205:18
maltaethironty satempler05:19
AWOSDevFedora Core?  on a Kubuntu channel?  now I'm confused...05:19
satemplermaltaethiron: don't wory about it being fedora use it to get the 802.11.zip drivers05:19
HawkwindAWOSDev: Many docs from other distros will work.  Just depends on what it is05:19
josh__how do i start it in terminal/05:19
satemplermaltaethiron: then sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter05:19
Hawkwindjosh__: alt-f2 and then type: konsole05:19
Josh_arunkale: and that's it?05:19
AWOSDevJosh__ go into the Konsole and then type          oowriter05:19
arunkaledid you run that command Josh_?05:20
satemplermaltaethiron: then run the command05:20
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HawkwindAWOSDev: He doesn't know how to open konsole until I just told him :P05:20
maltaethironsatempler...ok sweet..so when i have that laptop plugged in via ethernet, then ill do this?05:20
arunkaleJosh_: did it do it's thing?05:20
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Josh_yeah and now it is downloading my flash plugin.. but it's just sitting there says 'Downloading . . '05:20
Josh_arunkale05:20
satemplermaltaethiron: ya05:20
Josh_arunkale: and last time in adept, it sa there for a good 10min stuck at 90%05:20
maltaethironvery cool satempler, thanks a lot05:20
satemplermaltaethiron: or download all the deps now05:20
arunkaleyeah hold on, dont worry05:20
josh__umm wtf05:20
arunkalelet it happen05:20
AWOSDevYeah I'll have to try that when I have time to kill.05:20
josh__it works now after i typed the command05:20
arunkaleit downloads it05:20
fyrmedicOk console didn't work for me.l... Thanks anyway I'll try in a couple of days.05:20
linuxkid2flavio: careful installing the nvidia drivers. One wrong step and you end up with only a shell prompt.05:20
satemplerand then sudo dpkg -i *.deb on the laptop05:20
josh__everything is fine all of a sudden....wierd05:21
maltaethironi gotta get some sleep bro....i fell asleep in english earlier05:21
Josh_arunkale: what if it gets stuck again?05:21
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maltaethironill do it tomorow05:21
Hawkwindjosh__: Maybe the command in the menu is incorrect or something05:21
mark_><05:21
arunkaleJosh_: i had the same problem man05:21
Josh_and in general with everyone, how did you all learn how to do this stuff in kubuntu?05:21
arunkaleit wont get stuck05:21
satemplerok05:21
linuxkid2openoffice command is ooffice05:21
satemplerI will be here possibly05:21
mark_my comp crashed again05:21
maltaethironthanks again though05:21
arunkaleJosh_: by asking people/google search05:21
AWOSDevYou know for some reason my laptop decided today it wants to boot to runlevel2 ONLY today?05:21
mark_imma wipe my hard drive and try a reinstall05:21
maltaethironill be here tomorow night..prolly 9ish05:21
josh__ok its randomly not working again05:21
Hawkwindlinuxkid2: Or oowriter or many others actually05:21
AWOSDevI tried rebooting and it went to runlevel 2 again05:21
maltaethironeastern time05:21
AWOSDevso I typed 'init 5'05:21
AWOSDevand it just sat there and sat there05:22
AWOSDevdid nothing.05:22
Josh_arunkale: where did you learn general commands for the terminal? like opening apps, closing, killing, fixing, what not05:22
AWOSDevthen I typed 'startx' and here I am05:22
Josh_arunkale: and learning what particular things meant05:22
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Josh_same way?05:22
josh__this doesn't make any sence!05:22
Josh_people/google05:22
arunkaleJosh_: yeah05:22
AWOSDevJosh_, for me, I got a Linux book05:22
linuxkid2Hawkwind: really?, I thought it was ooffice -writer05:22
AWOSDevJosh_ the rest I learned from man(1) :)05:22
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Hawkwindlinuxkid2: In a terminal type:  oo(then hit the tab key a couple of times).  You'll see some of the ways you can start it05:23
linuxkid2ok05:23
AWOSDevNow can someone please help me with PLIP?  I'm begging............05:23
arunkaleJosh_: after that command does it's thing and you get to the next prompt, just exit the terminal -- type exit and press enter05:23
Hawkwindlinuxkid2: I think ooffice -writer was the way OOo 1 got started.  OOo2 is different now05:23
AWOSDevoh pretty please  :?05:23
arunkaleJosh_: and after that, try running Adept, should work05:23
Josh_arunkale: thanks.. its still downloading by the way, or so it says05:23
Kr4t05!vmware05:23
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare05:23
Josh_how do you open an app from the terminal?05:23
Josh_what do you type05:23
AWOSDev!plip05:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about plip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:24
HawkwindJosh_: The name of the app usually05:24
linuxkid2Hawkwind: oh, your right about the commands. But the menu entries use the ooffice -writer,05:24
linuxkid2!lighttpd > linuxkid205:24
AWOSDevmaybe that's the problem, linuxkid205:24
arunkaleJosh_: yeah, it says downloading for a while, but eventually does download it, dont worry05:24
Josh_Hawkwind im trying to open amarok, i typed in amarok and it said command not found05:24
Hawkwindlinuxkid2: Ah ok.  I don't use KDE or Gnome so I don't use menus :)05:24
Josh_arunkale thanks for the great help05:24
HawkwindJosh_: Then you have to install it:  sudo apt-get install amarok05:24
HomerHawkwind: twm?05:25
AWOSDevHawkwind, how can you not use KDE or Gnome?05:25
AWOSDevoh nvm05:25
HawkwindHomer: E1705:25
AWOSDevconsole-only :)05:25
Josh_Hawkwind it is installed. i play music on it all the time, i just wanted to see if i could open ti from the terminal05:25
AWOSDevOh E17...haven't heard of that.05:25
HawkwindAWOSDev: I use E17 window manager :P.  get-e.org or enlightenment.org05:25
linuxkid2Hawkwind: what do you use then? XFce? Fluxbox? CLI?05:25
Hawkwindlinuxkid2: E1705:25
Homerenlightenment05:25
linuxkid2Cool05:25
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linuxkid2that's supposed to be the coolest WM05:26
HawkwindTons better than enlightement as most people know it05:26
AWOSDevIs PLIP really that hard?05:26
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Homerhow is afterstep05:26
HomerI used litestep on windows for awhile05:26
Homerit's like the same thing right?05:26
Hawkwindhttp://seerofsouls.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=12&pos=2705:26
LeeJunFanwell, after many manual apt-get installs and dpkg -r's and apt-get -f installs and dist-upgrades I've got edgy - hehe05:26
HawkwindThat's one of my screenshots from a few weeks ago05:27
HawkwindHomer: Afterstep is nothing like E17 or litestep.  Not even remotely close05:27
Dr_WillisWindowMaker! :P05:27
boxj05:27
Hawkwindhttp://seerofsouls.com/screenshots/Hawkwind14.png05:27
HawkwindThat's another E17 screenie :P05:27
linuxkid2I've used FluxBox, XFce, KDE (most) JWM, and a two day stint with GNOME.05:28
LeeJunFanalmost worth updating to edgy for the fonts.05:28
HomerJosh: type amarok in the terminal05:28
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sethLeeJunFan, I agree, the fonts are awesome05:28
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AWOSDev:)05:28
HawkwindAWOSDev: What would ?05:28
AWOSDevE1705:28
HawkwindHah not hardly05:28
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AWOSDevIt looks sa-weeeeet05:29
HawkwindThough it runs very nicely on my P4 3.2GHz HT with 2GB of RAM :)05:29
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HawkwindAWOSDev: It's very nice.  Lots of configuring can be done with E1705:29
linuxkid2Wow05:29
LeeJunFanonly I've got to recompile my kernel because of gcc updates so I can recompile my fglrx, either that or install the old gcc to compile my fglrx with, only I don't remember what version the kernel I have was compiled with, ehhe.05:29
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AWOSDevYeah my biggest computer is a Celeron 1.6 NoHT with 512MB05:29
linuxkid2Sounds like it outstrips XGL+Compiz05:29
Homerhere is my desktop05:29
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Homerhttp://www.imagedump.com/pics/458623.jpg05:29
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Cardboard_boxhello05:30
AWOSDevHawkwind, I like just about every artist in your music collection :)05:30
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arunkaleJosh_: can you run adept now?05:30
linuxkid2Homer: what widget program do you use?05:31
HawkwindAWOSDev: Hah.  My music collection is quite extensive.  I have just over 700,000 ogg files :P05:31
MasterEvilAcewait.. what's htis edgy and fonts stuff??05:31
echo1Homer: I need those widgets!05:31
Hawkwindhttp://seerofsouls.com/screenshots/konqueror.png  <~~KDE4 running on Edgy :P05:31
Homersuperkarmba05:31
HawkwindHomer: Very nice looking05:31
Homerthanks05:32
HawkwindAWOSDev: Plus I have dual monitors too :)05:32
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AWOSDevI have dual-monitors05:33
AWOSDevinternal laptop and external display :P05:33
AWOSDevAnd yes I can do both at the same time05:33
echo1ooo05:34
AWOSDevbut it only makes one display...05:34
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AWOSDev>.<05:34
AWOSDevI'm sorry so so so sorry but05:34
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HomerI'm using a laptop05:34
AWOSDevI need help with PLIP.05:34
Homereverything except video acceleration worked outside the box05:34
Homerincluding wifi :p05:34
echo1thats like me Homer05:35
MasterEvilAcehomer: what brand?05:35
HomerMSI 102905:35
AWOSDevHomer, your screenshot is still loading...05:35
MasterEvilAceanyone have a Dell laptop w/ working TV Out?05:35
echo1I have an Inspiron 600005:35
MasterEvilAcei couldn't get tv out working for crap05:35
echo1Can someone explain to me what I need for widgets? (Im totally new to widgets)05:35
MasterEvilAcei could get the TV to flicker but that's it05:35
MasterEvilAceecho1: superkaramba05:35
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Homer\yeah05:36
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HomerI'll admit there isn't alot of widgets and many don't work05:37
MasterEvilAceand even less look good :)05:37
Homerbut the ones on my desktop work perfectly05:37
MasterEvilAcethe Aero glass ones look good05:37
AWOSDevHomer, PBIA?05:37
AWOSDevreally?05:37
AWOSDevoops05:37
echo1the ones you have are all i can think i want05:37
Homeryeah05:37
linuxkid2So, does anyone know how to use PHP with Lighttpd? And I want a lightweight database, preferably SQLIte but I don't know how well that will work.05:37
AWOSDevI unplugged my laptop from the ethernet :P05:37
HomerI live near pbia05:37
Homerheh05:37
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AWOSDevI'm somewhere in Palm Beach County (but that's as much as you're getting nowadays on IRC)05:38
AWOSDevanyway...05:38
echo1Homer what are your system info and weather widgets called?05:38
AWOSDevCan anyone here even tell me what PLIP is?05:38
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MasterEvilAcenever heard of PLIP05:38
Homerliquidweather and crystal status05:39
AWOSDevEver heard of Interlink?05:39
AWOSDevLaplink?05:39
AWOSDevDirect Cable Connection?05:39
MasterEvilAceDirect cable connection yeah05:39
AWOSDevI'm trying to get a connection going between two laptops via the parallel port05:39
AWOSDevin Linux05:39
Homeroo05:39
MasterEvilAcethat would be incredibly slow05:39
Homerthat sounds complicated05:39
AWOSDev50Kb/s05:39
MasterEvilAcei'd stick a screw driver in your parallel port to break it so you don't have to worry about it05:40
AWOSDevwell it's a 1996 laptop05:40
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MasterEvilAcebend all the pins05:40
MasterEvilAcethat should stop you from wanting to mess with it :P05:40
AWOSDevThere *are* no pins on the parallel port05:40
linuxkid2So, does anyone know how to use PHP with Lighttpd? And I want a lightweight database, preferably SQLIte but I don't know how well that will work.05:40
AWOSDevjust the cable05:40
AWOSDevand I just bought the cable three hours ago05:40
AWOSDevso I'm not doing that :P05:40
LeeJunFanyay! edgy has no media:/ crap links05:40
Homerlinuxkid2: apache and mysql that slow? :\05:40
LeeJunFanthat crap was so annoying media:/ broke any non kde app, and 1/2 the kde ones as well.05:41
AWOSDevI just want to install FreeBSD on that darn 1996 laptop but sysinstall won't recognise my PCMCIA card05:41
Homerhow is freebsd btw05:41
linuxkid2Homer: I just have an older machine. P3 450mhz 319MB RAM05:41
HomerI know people that swear by it05:41
AWOSDevI wouldn't know05:41
Homeroh05:41
AWOSDevIt's not INSTALLED YET!!!!!05:41
Homerlol05:41
AWOSDevthat's why I need the PLIP working05:41
AWOSDevso I can install it :)05:41
AWOSDevI have to set some options in the kernel to make my PCMCIA card work05:42
AWOSDevand can't do that until after it's installed05:42
linuxkid2Homer: I could try LAMP, and may, but I want to try Lighttpd first.05:42
AWOSDevThat 1996 CD drive won't read burned discs05:42
AWOSDevand I AIN'T doin floppy disks :P05:42
Homerhmm never messed with anything other then apache and mysql with php05:42
AWOSDevsorry, by PCMCIA card I meant Ethernet PCMCIA card05:42
Homer"lamp"05:42
AWOSDevI'm wanting to try famp.05:43
AWOSDevFreeBSD Apache MySQL PHP :)05:43
linuxkid2AWOSDev: what are you trying to do with the computer anyways?05:43
flaviowhat do i do with '.deb' files?05:43
AWOSDevlinuxkid2, which one?05:43
Homerllsp05:43
AWOSDevthis lappy right here, is 2003 and I use it for games05:43
linuxkid2The freebsd laptop05:44
AWOSDevand Web browsing05:44
AWOSDevOh that one, that's gonna be an Intranet server05:44
Homerooo05:44
AWOSDevYES, I'm gonna use a 586/100 with Apache05:44
AWOSDevYES I'M CRAZY!  :P05:44
linuxkid2flavio: you should just use apt-get, but if you got the .deb from a third party, run sudo dpkg -i packagename05:44
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flaviothanks man u rox05:44
HomerI compiled mysql on a 486 before05:44
Homerit took05:44
Homer12 hours05:45
AWOSDevYeah but that's what a 486/5005:45
AWOSDevso it would only take 6 hours on a 586/10005:45
AWOSDev:)05:45
MasterEvilAceomg the geeks show up around 12am05:45
linuxkid2flavio: where'd you get the package?05:45
Homeryeah I think it was like 30mhz or some shit05:45
MasterEvilAceall of you are geeks05:45
Homerand had 8mbs ram05:45
AWOSDevYeah this one has 40MB RAM05:45
AWOSDevand I have the docking station with an ISA port!05:45
AWOSDevyes a laptop with an ISA card port!05:45
AWOSDevThey don't make 'em like that anymore...05:46
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Homermysql ran on it tho05:46
AWOSDev486/33?05:46
AWOSDevMySQL?05:46
Homeryep05:46
AWOSDevdang05:46
AWOSDevthat would probably be s05:46
AWOSDevl05:46
Homerslow yes05:46
AWOSDevo05:46
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AWOSDevw05:46
AWOSDev:)05:46
Homervery slow05:46
MasterEvilAceGEEK!05:47
AWOSDevYeah well this is a 586/100 not a 486/33 so it's feasible right?05:47
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deadsoulDoes KeePass have Kubuntu package to be installed?05:47
Homerlinux takes shitty hardware well05:47
AWOSDevMasterEvilAce, I'm not a geek until I tell you I still have (and use!) an 808805:47
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Homerbut it will be slow05:47
linuxkid2So, about the lighttpd. Anybody know how to run PHP on it. I've looked into PHPWiki which is what I want to run, and it can use SQLite. But I can't get Lighttpd to work with PHP yet.05:47
Homerit won't crash or ne thing05:47
AWOSDevwith the switch between 'normal' 4.77MHz and 'fast' 7.16MHz05:47
AWOSDevand the memory 'upgrade' from 512K to 640K05:47
MasterEvilAceturbo mode? lol05:48
AWOSDevand a 'humongous' 20MB (yes MEGAbytes) hard disk05:48
AWOSDev:)05:48
HomerI think linux can run on 386 too05:48
linuxkid2AWOSDev: can that thing run X? sounds unlikely.05:48
AWOSDevThat was when 1GB was astronomical, reserved only for super-duper-supercomputers.05:48
AWOSDevlinuxkid2: what the 8088?  UM...no05:48
AWOSDevthe 586/100?  Probably but not gonna try05:49
linuxkid2what's an 8088?05:49
Homerold processor05:49
AWOSDevyou're showing off the 'kid' of linuxkid205:49
AWOSDevhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/808805:49
AWOSDevand I wrote this article, the exact computer:05:49
linuxkid2I'm only 1605:49
AWOSDevhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leading_Edge_Model_D05:49
linuxkid2cool05:49
Homerit from like the early 1980s I think05:49
Homerso no it won't run X05:49
AWOSDevan extremely popular IBM-compatible clone in it's day05:50
HomerX barely ran in late 1980s with shitty WMs05:50
AWOSDev1/2/1988 is the purchase date IIRC05:50
AWOSDevI kept the receipt :P05:50
HomerThe 8088 was introduced on July 1, 1979, and was used in the original IBM PC.05:50
Homer:P05:50
flaviolinuxkid2:  hehehe sorry for highlighting u, i promise is the last question.. ive got a traceback with flash plugin: ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the Macromedia Flash Player installer.05:50
linuxkid2maybe you could EvilWM running on something from like 198805:50
flaviou know something that fix this problem?05:50
Makro___________still disconnecting05:50
Homerbarely05:50
HomerX was known to be bloated an slow05:51
AWOSDevI honestly didn't know X could run on an 808805:51
linuxkid2flavio: I heard of a way of using chroot to run 32bit stuff on the 64bit system.05:51
AWOSDevdang what version of *nix would I use?05:51
echo1honestly the world is against me.  How does a WIDGET not install properly.  Liquid Weather just direst me to the site :/05:51
AWOSDevXENIX?05:51
Homerecho1: you havta dl it from the site05:51
AWOSDevAnyway enough down memory lane05:51
linuxkid2flavio: you can't compile it yourself, because it's closed source.05:51
Homerit not hard, I'm sure you done it on windows b4 :P05:52
AWOSDevcan I laplink my two computers?05:52
echo1Homer, i seee05:52
Homerpackage management in linux makes us lazy05:52
Homerheh05:52
flavioi know.. :|05:52
AWOSDevHomer, compared to Windows, apt-get is like reading PowerPC assembly.05:52
Homer?05:53
AWOSDevpackage management in Linux isn't nearly as lazy as in Windows is what I meant05:53
Homerpower pc assembly is hard I'm guessing05:53
MasterEvilAceAWOSDev: GEEEEEEEEK!!!!05:53
Homernaa man05:53
Homerall I got to do is05:53
AWOSDevPowerPC assembly is very hard05:53
Homerapt-get install <package>05:53
linuxkid2I like apt. All your programs are in one place and downloadable just like that.05:53
AWOSDevand YES, MasterEvilAce, I am a geek05:53
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MasterEvilAceAWOSDev: lol, indeed05:54
Homeron windows I gotta go to a website, find a DL link, follow a wizard, maybe even have to dl dependancies05:54
Homerand sometimes restart05:54
AWOSDevI'm writing my own OS, what do you think I'm not a geek?!  :P05:54
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Homerwhile with one cmd I can the package downloaded, installed, with dependancies and even adds menu buttons05:55
linuxkid2Anyone have a favorite game? Just curios.05:55
Homerso uh how is that harder05:55
Homer?05:55
Homer:p05:55
AWOSDevSo can anybody help me with Parallel port networking?05:55
AWOSDevlinuxkid2: I'd have to say TORCS, or maybe PlanetPenguin Racer.05:55
Homernethack05:55
Homerseriously05:55
Homernethack ftw05:55
linuxkid2PlanetPenguin, Nethack. I love it.05:56
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HomerUT2004 :P05:56
Homerit runs on linux :)05:56
linuxkid2Hope PlanetPenguin works on my machine now I've installed the nvidia driver.05:56
AWOSDevSee this line from the FreeBSD install manual:05:56
linuxkid2oh, well, see ya'll everybody. :D05:57
AWOSDevImportant: If you use a Linux machine rather than a FreeBSD machine for your PLIP peer, you will also have to specify link0 in the TCP/IP setup screen's "extra options for ifconfig" field in order to be compatible with Linux's slightly different PLIP protocol.05:57
AWOSDevSo PLIP IS available on Linux05:57
AWOSDevnow I just have to find it... :)05:57
MasterEvilAceOK.. whomever said Pacman sucks earlier on was right.05:58
MasterEvilAcethat version blowwwss05:58
AWOSDevMasterEvilAce, if you can recognize I'm a geek that must mean you're a geek too.05:58
AWOSDevSo do you know anything about PLIP?05:58
MasterEvilAcelol no05:58
AWOSDevCan I make a rift in the space-time continuum and make it so that I can talk to people on here *from* 1996?05:59
AWOSDevPLIP hasn't really been widely used since then...05:59
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AWOSDevI guess no one here knows how to make a rift in the space-time continuum06:00
AWOSDev:)06:00
AWOSDevcat /dev/random > /dev/space-time-continuum :P06:00
AWOSDevanywho06:00
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AWOSDevI guess I just can't install FreeBSD onto that laptop :(06:01
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Homerreal men code operating systems Assembler using ed06:04
Homerin*06:04
AWOSDevI do06:04
AWOSDev:)06:04
Homerlies06:04
Homer:p06:04
AWOSDevit's an ASM/C mix06:04
Homerusing ed?06:04
AWOSDevhttp://code.google.com/p/awos06:04
AWOSDevNo not with ed06:04
AWOSDevbut it's an ASM/C mix06:04
AWOSDevI'm thinking it isn't called PLIP in Linux06:05
Homerhmm06:05
AWOSDevwhat else could it be called?06:05
AWOSDevI need anybody to just shoot out random acronyms for a parallel port cable to connect two laptops together.06:06
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AWOSDevOr maybe just Google "Linux PLIP howto"06:08
AWOSDevI'm such an n00b sometimes >.<06:08
AWOSDevhttp://tldp.org/HOWTO/PLIP.html06:09
AWOSDevTada!06:09
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MasterEvilAcewow.06:11
MasterEvilAceWorst. Geek. EVER.06:11
MasterEvilAce:P06:11
emonkeyhm?06:11
MasterEvilAcenot you emonkey :)06:12
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emonkeyoh thanks... ;)06:12
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AWOSDevWorst geek ever for not Googling or for being a n00b sometimes?06:12
MasterEvilAcelol06:12
MasterEvilAceif you don't know.. google!06:13
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MasterEvilAcestep1: google ..  step2: ....   step3: rejoice06:13
AWOSDev:)06:13
AWOSDevOh goodness06:13
AWOSDevI need a PLIP module!!!!!!!06:14
AWOSDevoh teh noes!06:14
MasterEvilAceLOL06:14
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MasterEvilAceROBBED06:14
AWOSDevlast known module was for the 2.0.xx series in April 199806:14
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AWOSDevIs that even legal to use a 2.0.xx module in 2.6.xx?06:15
MasterEvilAceAWOS.. Possible to like.. take out the HD, get a little a adapter, and hook it up to your Tower, then transfer over the files you need to get PLIP working.. etc06:15
AWOSDevMasterEvilAce, I assume you're talking about the 1996 laptop06:16
AWOSDevit already has PLIP support06:16
MasterEvilAceoh06:16
AWOSDevI'm trying to get a 2003 laptop with Kubuntu 6.0106:16
AWOSDevto work with PLIP06:16
AWOSDevand no, that stupid hard disk caddy has a stripped screw06:16
MasterEvilAcelame.06:16
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AWOSDevworked on it with a manual and drill screwdriver to no avail06:16
AWOSDevbut it's just a standard IDE disk06:17
AWOSDevif I could get it out of the caddy, I could just plug it in as /dev/hdd06:17
AWOSDev(my tower already has hda, hdb, and hdc)06:17
AWOSDevI searched Synaptic (basically Adept) for 'PLIP'06:18
AWOSDevI got one result: 'net-tools'06:18
AWOSDevwhat is it?06:18
AWOSDevoh duh06:18
AWOSDev!net-tools > AWOSDev06:18
MasterEvilAcelol06:19
AWOSDevIt gave me a little blurb06:19
AWOSDevI said "more please"06:19
AWOSDev(00:18:32) ubotu: Error: I haven't seen please.06:19
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AWOSDev:P06:19
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photoguyanyone know what this means? im trying to install flash in command line06:19
photoguyE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)06:19
MasterEvilAcethe lines before it are what you need to paste06:19
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MasterEvilAce!paste06:20
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:20
MasterEvilAceif it's really long06:20
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AWOSDevI'm just gonna continue with the HOWTO as if I already had the module :P06:20
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zenumHi, I have an ATI 9200 Pro and I can't seem to be able to install the proprietry drivers06:22
zenumI have looked through countless forums, and all seem to have similar instructions which don't seem to work06:22
zenumis there a known problem with the ATI linux drivers and this card?06:22
AWOSDevRadeon?06:23
zenum(I'm using dapper)06:23
zenumAWOSDev: yup06:23
photoguyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2417806:23
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LeeJunFananyone here build a kernel with gcc 4.1.2 yet? I'm getting errors - trying 4.0 now.06:24
photoguythat was my problem06:24
AWOSDevzenum: you have xserver-xorg-driver-ati right?06:24
EkkostormZenzum... try using Easy Ubuntu, that worked for me.  And after running that, I was able to switch to the proprietary drivers with a radio button...06:24
zenumI can get the normal ati driver... but that doesn't have 3d acceleration06:25
zenumit's when I try to use fglrx that it doesn't work06:25
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zenumEkkostorm: do you have this same card?06:26
AWOSDevHa ha!06:26
AWOSDevhttp://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au/lxr/source/drivers/net/plip.c06:26
EkkostormNot exactly, but I do have a 9000 series...06:26
AWOSDevIt /is/ still in there somewhere106:26
AWOSDev!06:26
MasterEvilAcephotoguy: it says you already have the newest version (so it's already installed).. try removing it then installing again if you need to06:27
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photoguywill do06:27
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zenumEkkostorm: I'll give Easy Ubuntu a go06:28
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EkkostormZenum: It automatically installs drivers for ati, as well as some other stuff... it's great.06:30
MasterEvilAceAnyone using Amarok and having trouble listening to a few of the default Internet radio streams? Such as digitally imported06:30
AWOSDevTHAT'S IT.....06:30
AWOSDevNull-Modem cable06:30
AWOSDevDoes anyone here know how to work a null-modem cable06:30
AWOSDev!06:30
AWOSDev?06:30
MasterEvilAcelol06:30
lupine_85AWOSDev: plug one end into the first computer; the other end into the second computer06:30
lupine_85you're done06:31
MasterEvilAce!ubotu google06:31
ubotugoogle is a very popular search engine, http://www.google.com06:31
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lupine_85!altavista06:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about altavista - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:31
mark_hawk06:31
AWOSDevlupine_85 I have them plugged in06:31
lupine_85that's search engine-ist, that is!06:31
mark_the crashing seems to have stopped06:31
MasterEvilAceubotu is obviously biased06:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is obviously biased - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:31
AWOSDevI just can't get Linux to be a PLIP computer06:31
AWOSDevpoor bot.... :)06:32
lupine_85are you trying to do TCP/IP over it?06:32
mark_im going to rebuild my kernel and see if it crashes06:32
AWOSDevlupine_8506:32
MasterEvilAcemark_ good luck06:32
LeeJunFanmark_: what'd you do to stop crashing?06:32
AWOSDevlupine_85 no I'm trying to install FreeBSD over it06:32
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AWOSDev:)06:32
AWOSDevOh06:32
mark_wiped my hard drive and reinstalled ubuntu06:32
AWOSDevyes I'm trying to use TCP/IP over it06:32
zenumEkkostorm: hrmm it says its already installed.. which it is... just it won't boot up with fglrx in the xorg.conf gile06:33
AWOSDevI just found this http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apcs05.html.en so I'ma give it a go06:33
zenumbut when i change it to ati in the .conf file it works fine (without 3D)06:33
zenumalso modprobe fglrx gives a FATAL error06:33
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lupine_85well, using PLIP over a serial cable isn't possible, to start with06:33
AWOSDevI'm trying to use PLIP over a parallel cable06:34
lupine_85ah.. a null-modem *printer* cable?06:34
AWOSDevFine yes a null-modem printer cable :)06:34
AWOSDevHey I just found http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/PLIP-Install-HOWTO-1.html06:34
LeeJunFanI haven't done PLIP since my Amiga days.06:34
AWOSDevthat'll work - PLIIP in < 1 miunte :)06:35
AWOSDevLeejunFan: Yes I know it's old06:35
lupine_85assuminig the kernel modules are around :)06:35
AWOSDevbut it's for a 1996 laptop06:35
AWOSDev:)06:35
mark_lee06:35
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mark_i think this automatix package i installed earlier was causing the problem06:35
AWOSDev@(#%*&@(#%*&@(#*%&@($*%&(@$*%&@06:35
lupine_85ah, plip is around. You might need to modprobe it though06:35
AWOSDevinsmod: can't read 'plip': No such file or directory06:35
LeeJunFanmark_: hrm, I wonder what part of it caused it... ?06:36
mark_dunno06:36
lupine_85here gives /lib/modules/2.6.17-7-generic/kernel/drivers/net/plip.ko06:36
lupine_85!plip06:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about plip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:36
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AWOSDevAh, modprobe worked!  thanks lupine_85!06:36
mark_all i know is ive never had this problem before i used automatix06:36
lupine_85presumably, you've now got an interface of some description06:36
AWOSDevtail /var/log/messages06:36
AWOSDevOh man06:36
mark_im thinking it had something to do with the flash player it installed06:36
AWOSDevI ALT+TABed to IRC.  I was trying for Konsole.  sorry :)06:36
lupine_85hehe. plip is incredibly ancient06:37
EkkostormZenum: Unfortunately, that is where my knowledge of the drivers end...06:37
Ekkostormsorry...06:37
AWOSDevW00T!06:37
AWOSDevplip0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr FC:FC:C0:A8:00:0206:37
lupine_85hehe. presumably, it's "just another interface" now06:38
AWOSDevYes it is but sysinstall(8) from FreeBSD won't recognise my Ethernet PCMCIA card without modifying kernel configuration which can't be done until after install06:39
AWOSDevso you can see an endless loop:06:39
AWOSDevinstall->needs configuration->needs install->needs configuration...06:39
AWOSDevNow I have to export my CD drive through NFS06:39
AWOSDevoh goody!06:39
AWOSDevNFS - another incredibly ancient technology06:39
flaccid_i thought nfs was good06:40
LeeJunFanAWOSDev: but still useful06:40
flaccid_or is that xfs06:40
unix_infidelwrite a new protocol.06:40
LeeJunFanflaccid_: it is, and isn't. It's crap for security purposes.06:40
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flaccid_hmm so samba is the only secure network file system06:41
LeeJunFanI normally use iptables to only allow certain mac addresses to access my nfs stuff.06:41
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lupine_85samba? secure?06:42
lupine_85can't see it06:42
unix_infidelflaccid_: that's not true.06:42
AWOSDevLOL Samba != Secure - just like Windows != Secure06:42
AWOSDevrpcinfo -p06:42
lupine_85CIFS is a bit better than Samba06:42
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lupine_85not much06:43
AWOSDevAh crap I've got to get better at this ALT+TAB stuff06:43
MasterEvilAceAWOSDev: Have you slept yet? :P06:44
AWOSDevMasterEvilAce: Um, today.06:44
AWOSDev:)06:44
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AWOSDevI've been up for ~12 hours06:44
AWOSDevperfect06:44
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lupine_85night everyone06:45
AWOSDevawilcox@Lappy:~$ whereis nfsd06:45
AWOSDevg'night lupine_8506:45
AWOSDevnfsd: /usr/share/man/man7/nfsd.7.gz06:45
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AWOSDevThe *only* thing that comes up is the manpage06:45
AWOSDevoh goody!06:45
LeeJunFancan someone here running edgy check /proc/version and let me know what gcc version ubuntu is using to build kernels with?06:46
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AWOSDevAh I got it06:46
AWOSDevneed to put a 'sudo' before that sucker :P06:46
flaccid_well samba does use acl06:47
flaccid_i heard you can encrypt it06:47
flaccid_i'm just asking what is a secure network file system?06:47
AWOSDevo_O06:48
AWOSDevFreeBSD: "Unable to configure the plip0 interface!  This installation method cannot be used."06:48
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AWOSDev@#(%^*&@$^(*@&#(%*&@(*#%&@$(%&*@(*$&%(@$*&%(*@&$%(*@&$%(*@$&%06:48
AWOSDevI'm going to go on the FreeBSD channel now :)06:48
AWOSDevunder an assumed name, they hate me in there right now06:49
AWOSDev:P06:49
MasterEvilAcelol06:49
AWOSDevThey think my 1996 laptop is "useless" and should be "thrown out with the rest of the junk" because it's not a 3.2GHz HT06:49
AWOSDevso I'll go under an assumed name06:49
AWOSDevVedSOWA?  :)06:49
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somebody_elseThat'll work!  :)06:50
somebody_elseOh perfect.06:51
somebody_else"##FreeBSD is only open to nicks that are registered."06:51
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MasterEvilAceouch06:52
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arunkalehow do i get the sun java runtime environment?06:53
arunkalei tried getting it from adept, but it gets stuck06:54
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AWOSDev!sun-java5-jre06:54
ubotusun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 7169 kB, installed size 15768 kB06:54
Hobbsee!samba06:54
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT06:54
flaccid_wtf06:55
arunkaleAWOSDev, how do i get it06:55
flaccid_my ip address on lan is 169.254.70.1206:55
flaccid_can someone tell me how this is possible06:55
AWOSDevarunkale, "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre" on the Konsole06:55
arunkaleokay, thanks06:55
AWOSDevflaccid_ that's an Autoconfiguration IP Address (at least in Windows)06:56
AWOSDevthat means no DHCP servers were available06:56
flaccid_rightio06:56
flaccid_i'm on a kubuntu notebook06:56
flaccid_best way to restart my eth1 ?06:56
AWOSDevifconfig eth1 down06:57
AWOSDevifconfig eth1 up06:58
flaccid_ok06:58
flaccid_brb06:58
flaccid_hectic06:59
flaccid_can you hear me, AWOSDev06:59
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flaccid_it keeps getting the ip address, then straight away goes to the 169.07:00
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flaccid_bound to 192.168.0.209 -- renewal in 9175 seconds.07:01
flaccid_failing to understand why07:01
LeeJunFanflaccid_: something on your network is handing out IP's for that range probably.07:01
LeeJunFansome windows machine.07:02
flaccid_its not seee ^^07:02
LeeJunFanflaccid_: then after that it goes to 169?07:02
flaccid_there is only 1 dhcp on network and thats a linux box giving 192.168.0.x addresses07:02
flaccid_yes07:02
emonkeyknetworkamanger running?07:02
mark_no crash yet leejun07:02
flaccid_emonkey: i don't think so how can i check?07:03
mark_im running in a 686smp kernel atm btw07:03
AWOSDevOh sorry yes I can hear you flaccid_ :P07:03
LeeJunFanguess I'll never run automatix - hehe.07:03
AWOSDevI'm in ##FreeBSD right now, sorry07:03
AWOSDev:)07:03
flaccid_the funny thing is my net works on this 169 address07:03
emonkeyflaccid_, you know if its running....07:03
flaccid_np AWOS07:03
mark_if i finish compiling the kernel i'll know it was that thing's fault07:03
LeeJunFanflaccid_: how are you determining it's switching to 169? ie. how are you checking the IP?07:04
emonkey169. is a standard for self-configuration networking07:04
flaccid_LeeJunFan: ifconfig07:04
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emonkeyunder Linux too...there several tools and services which uses that07:04
emonkeyif they're installed07:04
LeeJunFanflaccid_: and if you type 'ip route' what does it say your default GW is?07:04
emonkeyknetworkmanager is one of them07:05
flaccid_default via 192.168.0.1 dev eth107:05
flaccid_hmm what does that mean?07:05
MasterEvilAcetime for me to sleep07:05
mark_im saving all the info from my kernel building and im gonna remove all the stuff that gives warnings or errors07:06
LeeJunFanflaccid_: it means that's the IP of your router, but how it can even talk to the 192.168 when it's set on 169 I don't know. hehe07:06
ironfroggyanyone know of any wireless routers that can actually connect to another router which would then have the net connection?07:06
LeeJunFanironfroggy: any 2 routers which support WDS.07:06
ironfroggyi have my cable modem upstairs and want to avoid running cord downstairs to install just a few boxes.07:06
ironfroggywell, particularly, i know my current router has no settings to do that, and i dont know how to find out if any others can do it.07:07
ironfroggywhat is WDS?07:07
LeeJunFanWireless Distribution System.07:07
LeeJunFanMost all new routers do.07:07
LeeJunFanlinksys, etc.07:07
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ironfroggywhat is some seperate system required?07:08
flaccid_LeeJunFan: yes its crazy. i'm on a 169 on the net...07:08
ironfroggycouldnt it just connect to ther other router like any other client?07:08
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LeeJunFanIt's a form of bridging which allows 2 or more AP's to connect to each other to expand the coverage of your wireless network.07:08
LeeJunFanironfroggy: just needs 2 AP's which support WDS.07:09
flaccid_LeeJunFan: please look at my ip route output: http://pastebin.ca/17828507:09
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LeeJunFanflaccid_: you have 2 IP's assigned to 1 device, it's an alias. like eth1 and eth1:107:11
flaccid_this is pretty crazy07:11
flaccid_LeeJunFan: it doesn't come up like that in ifconfig07:12
LeeJunFanflaccid_: I don't know what's doing it, but it's common.07:12
flaccid_only eth1 is listed07:12
LeeJunFanflaccid_: ifconfig -a07:12
flaccid_its common?07:12
LeeJunFanflaccid_: not common to have it happen w/o knowing why, but I have aliases on my wireless device for my private IP and public IP as well.07:13
flaccid_yes only eth1 comes up in ifconfig -a. besides cipsec0 (vpn), eth0 (ethernet), lo, sit007:13
flaccid_LeeJunFan: i have no aliases...07:13
LeeJunFanflaccid_: that's odd.07:13
flaccid_yeah07:13
LeeJunFanflaccid_: what's your /etc/network/interfaces look like?07:13
flaccid_its weird07:13
LeeJunFanflaccid_: you have vmware?07:14
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flaccid_LeeJunFan: interfaces: http://pastebin.ca/17828807:15
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flaccid_i havnt installed any vmware yet07:15
LeeJunFanoh, I wonder if the vpn is setting it?07:15
arunkale!frostwire07:16
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire07:16
LeeJunFanflaccid_: certainly nothing in the interfaces file out of the ordinary.07:16
Josh_arunkale07:16
Josh_i got a problem07:16
flaccid_LeeJunFan: i tested it with/without vpn, no difference07:16
Josh_it came up with this:07:16
Josh_dpkg: error processing flashplugin-nonfree (--configure):07:16
Josh_ subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 107:16
Josh_Errors were encountered while processing:07:16
Josh_ flashplugin-nonfree07:16
arunkaleyeah, but you can run adept now07:17
arunkalethat's just an error with the flash plugin07:17
Josh_how can i get tht flash plugin?07:17
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Josh_arunkale: are you getting my pms?07:19
keYou've got PMS?!07:19
Josh_*pm's07:19
kelol07:19
arunkalehaha07:19
keJ/k...07:19
AWOSDevLOL07:19
mark_josh, i dunno, im having the same problem07:19
arunkaleno man not getting them07:19
AWOSDevROFL07:19
Josh_alright well nevermind the private messages07:20
keHaha07:20
keCreated a monster07:20
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Josh_adept says that flash is installed07:20
Josh_but it's not working07:20
AWOSDevhaha you missed, didn't spell my nick right :P07:20
mark_uninstall it and use the installer on the website07:20
mark_bah07:20
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mark_even got the capitalization this time07:21
AWOSDevYes but I was ready and ducked into the FreeBSD channel :P07:21
mark_freeBSD got the axe didnt it?07:22
arunkalewhat do you mean by it'snot working07:22
mark_no wait that was opendarwin07:22
Josh_arunkale: when i use a website that requires flash it doesn't work07:22
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arunkaleJosh_: it's working for me07:23
Josh_arunkale the site requires flash 8, is that plugin flash 8?07:23
arunkaleno man07:23
arunkaleflash 8 isn't available for linux07:23
arunkaleafaik07:24
mark_josh:we linux people only get the awesome flash 707:24
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mark_with special sound desync feature07:24
Josh_ooh so when does flash 8 come out? or is there an equivalent?07:24
mark_flash 9 comes out january next year07:24
arunkaleit should be out a bit later07:24
mark_apparently santa is coming late for linux07:24
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Josh_is there no equivalent for flash 8 for linux?07:24
mark_no07:24
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AWOSDevAw come on old St Nick bring it to us earlier!07:25
flaccid_LeeJunFan: i think i'll restart in a minute and see if it does it on boot07:25
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mark_we're naughty for not asking for windows xp for christmas07:25
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LeeJunFanflaccid_: yeah, see if it does it before you log in to kde maybe.07:25
mark_actually josh07:26
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mark_if you go to ies4linux07:26
Josh_what is that?07:26
arunkaleoh yeah07:26
arunkaleies4linux has flash 907:26
arunkalethat's internet explorer for linux07:26
mark_you can get internet explorer working on linux (badly tho)07:26
arunkale!ies4linux07:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ies4linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:26
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Josh_arunkale: is that flashplugin pflash 7?07:27
AWOSDevThat's IE4Linux07:27
AWOSDev!ie4linux07:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ie4linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:27
arunkaledude, Internet Explorer for linux07:27
mark_lol awos07:27
mark_my turn07:27
mark_!bugs4linux07:27
flaccid_where is the homepage of this ie4linux07:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bugs4linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:27
AWOSDev!google07:27
ubotugoogle is a very popular search engine, http://www.google.com07:27
mark_http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/index-en.html07:28
mark_there u go07:28
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mark_a warning though, flash doesnt work terribly well with it07:29
mark_but it does work07:30
flaccid_oh its just IE under wine, big deal07:30
flaccid_i do that with crossover office07:30
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mark_problem tho flaccid is ms has blocked you from downloading internet explorer using linux07:30
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mark_or it did07:31
flaccid_mark_: how did they do that?07:31
mello151hey guys, what's broken today?07:31
flaccid_browser sniffing?07:31
mark_think so07:31
mark_not to mention wga07:31
flaccid_you can just spoof the UA string07:31
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flaccid_all easily hacked but07:31
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mark_hmm07:32
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flaccid_wga is easier than ever to hack atm07:32
flaccid_may not be son07:32
mark_anyone have any ideas for the care of lIon batteries07:32
flaccid_soon07:32
mark_l-ion07:33
flaccid_http://batteryuniversity.com07:33
mark_whoo! thanks07:33
flaccid_did the link work?07:33
flaccid_ah it does. not a bad site07:34
swtaarrsi have an athlon x2, would be there any big speed advantage to using the amd64 version over i386 with a k7 kernel?07:34
mark_my brothers laptop's battery now holds a 30 minute max charge07:34
mark_but usually 15 minutes07:34
mark_dont want my baby ending up like that07:35
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LeeJunFanmark_: there's nothing much you can do to revive them once they are bad, but keeping temps down, don't store them fully charged, etc... will help them last longer.07:35
mark_im doing my best to unplug it once it reaches a full charge07:36
mark_and at night i turn my laptop off and put it away for storage07:36
LeeJunFanbest rule is to keep it 40-60% charged in the fridge. Unless you know you are going to be using it - then charge it up. Otherwise leave it out.07:36
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LeeJunFanUnfortunately mine isn't easy to remove. I have to unscrew the panel on the bottom of my laptop and tug the cable out.07:37
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AWOSDevLeejunFan: what kind of screwed-up laptop is that?07:38
LeeJunFanSager07:38
LeeJunFanClevo07:38
AWOSDeveven my 1996 just has a little lever you pull07:38
mark_lol07:38
mark_was it made by ms?07:38
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LeeJunFanYeah, all the other laptops I've had were easy to pull batts, of course they all fell apart before I ever needed a new battery for one too - so I'm not complaining now.07:38
AWOSDevEven the old Compaq Aeros (way back in 1989) had that07:38
AWOSDevmark_ No actually it's a Compaq LTE 515007:39
mark_eh07:39
AWOSDeveh what?  Compaq?07:41
calcmandanI installed armada 2 under wine.  when it starts up, i get the splash screen but then end up with this in konsole, http://pastebin.ca/178304.  I get a popup error saying, "Graphics initialization failed.  No compatible Direct3D8 hardware accelerator detected."  I do have a video card "GeForce MX 4000" and I do have 3D acceleration enabled.  I checked with my existing games and they are accelerated.  Any ideas?07:41
LeeJunFanowell, I'm off to bed, hopefully when I awake these kernels I'm trying to build will be finished - successfully. For some reason I haven't compiled a clean kern with edgy yet, with 2 compilers, I think my source tree was tainted - so starting from scratch.07:42
mark_whoo! newly rebuilt kernel done07:42
mark_brb07:42
LeeJunFanmust need a 'make extraclean' or something hehe07:42
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Lunar_RavenI have a question..is there any graphical ftp client for linux which will upload files in "auto mode"?07:44
Lunar_Ravenso you dont have to switch back and fourth between ascii and binary?07:44
AWOSDevG'night LeejunFan.07:45
AWOSDev:)07:45
swtaarrsLunar_Raven: if you're using kde you can enter ftp://username@host urls into konqueror07:47
swtaarrsi think it handles auto mode07:47
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AWOSDevDoes anyone here know how to get a null-modem printer cable working between Linux and FreeBSD?07:54
AWOSDevANYBODY AT ALL!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?07:55
Makro___________still disconnecting07:55
Makro___________i got this problem before in debian but i don remember how to fix it07:55
wall0159I'm having weird issues with amaroK, whereby it crashes when changing between mp4 files (but it plays them fine). I'm asking here because I don't think it's a problem with amaroK per se, but rather maybe with the xine engine. are there known issues with this?07:56
overlimitwhen trying to fix the permissions in k3b it changes the permissions for cdrao to 47107:56
overlimitno 71007:56
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InteliWasp!vim08:05
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code08:05
AWOSDev!code08:05
ubotuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs; KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello; GNOME: gvim, gedit, eclipse, pida08:05
AWOSDev!kdevelop08:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdevelop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:05
AWOSDevwell then why did you offer it?08:05
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esc[1] hi08:06
bimberi_!info kdevelop08:07
ubotuPackage kdevelop does not exist in any distro I know08:07
AWOSDevWill you tell me about it for a08:09
AWOSDev!botsnack08:09
ubotuYum!08:09
AWOSDev!info KDevelop08:09
ubotuPackage kdevelop does not exist in any distro I know08:09
noiesmohttp://www.kdevelop.org/08:11
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Leafwif I add a user from the command line, such using 'useradd', will it have a proper login in the kdm as well for a graphical desktop?08:15
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horacioLeafw: yes08:17
Leafwhoracio : thanks08:19
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krautmoin08:21
AWOSDevmoin?08:21
AWOSDevYou said that on ##FreeBSD too?08:21
AWOSDevWhat is it?08:21
AWOSDevis it a signal?08:22
esc[1] jo moin och...08:22
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AWOSDevoch?  Is this like some other freaky language?08:22
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esc[1] no freaky language... it's luxembourgish but "moin" is used in some parts of germany too, i think ;-)08:23
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AWOSDevSo is that like 'good morning'?08:24
esc[1] right...08:24
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mark_!kde08:26
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE08:26
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esc[1] I do currently have some printing problems: I have a HP Officejet 5510 (using the driver hpijs for 5500 series) connected to a kubuntu 6.06 box using cups. printing works fine. when I try to print on that printer from a ubuntu 6.06 box via network, using the same driver, it only prints "$$" to the top left corner on the page... anybody has any idea?08:30
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=== Topic for #kubuntu: Our deepest condolences go out to lilo's family http://freenode.net/news.shtml | Kubuntu Support Channel | 3.5.4 available for dapper | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperKnownProblems | Free Kubuntu CDs! https://shipit.kubuntu.org/ | Large pastes go here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
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arunkale!frostwire09:13
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire09:13
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intelikeyshalom09:14
intelikeyis there an app that will center the display ?09:15
arunkale?09:15
intelikeywhen frame buffering is enabled it's always off center.09:15
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arcasaHow do I use a terminal to upgrade my kernel?09:15
intelikeyarcasa sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:16
intelikeyassuming you don't mean roll your own kernel...09:17
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intelikeyis there an app that will center the display ?09:18
arcasaNo I just need the most current kernel... Nvidia drivers are giving me cheek.09:18
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intelikeywhat's the easiest way to see if you are inside of x or not  ???   $DISPLAY  ???09:21
intelikeyshoot.  anybody around that knows anything ?09:22
mindspinintelikey: what do you mean with "inside x" ?09:23
intelikey:)09:23
fildo!seen flaccid09:24
ubotuI last saw flaccid (n=flaccid@CPE-124-177-23-165.vic.bigpond.net.au) 1d 19h 4m 23s ago, quiting: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)09:24
intelikeywithin xorg09:24
intelikeybut if you had to ask i don't expect an answer.09:24
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PensacolaI'm about to reinstall windows and I was wondering what section of the website https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-bf3232f10ddf1b078de064622ccbb25225cdb3c0 I need09:24
Pensacolawill super grub loader do the job?09:25
intelikeyPensacola you reinstalling windows beside linux ?09:25
Pensacolajep09:25
mindspinyou are "inside x" if you have a GUI and can move your mouse ;-)09:25
PensacolaI installed kubuntu after windows, but now my windows broke itself09:25
intelikeymindspin thank you.09:26
intelikeyPensacola you will have to follow the portion about fixing grub yes.  that should be all09:26
Pensacolaok so if I burn super grub disk to a cd, boot from it and press fix grub that should be all09:27
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intelikeyi personally have never tried that.  (i don't use grub)  but yes. that should be.09:27
Pensacolaok thanks for the help09:28
Pensacolabrb :)09:28
intelikeynpp09:28
Pensacolafrom now on windows will only be for gaming09:28
intelikey:)09:28
intelikeymindspin if you'd like to help me just a sec.  would you please type this back at me?      /exec -o echo "$DISPLAY"09:30
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crazy_penguinGood day all!09:31
intelikeyhey09:32
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crazy_penguinGood day all! :)09:32
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mindspinsorry was afk09:37
mindspinintelikely, first what are you trying? remote x over ssh or do you have problems with alocal machine09:38
intelikeyno09:38
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mindspinno what both?09:39
intelikeyi'm scripting something and wanted a simple test for within/without x09:39
mindspinyou wanna test if x is running or not within the script?09:39
intelikeyno i want to test if the script is being called from within x or not09:40
intelikeybut i already got it.09:40
intelikeythanks just the same.09:40
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intelikeyanswer== [ -z "$DISPLAY" ]  && blah09:41
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intelikeyor the inverse of that; [ ! -z "$DISPLAY" ]  && blah09:42
intelikeythe verable is null in the console  but set by the xserver.    i wanted something x specific not kde specific.09:43
mindspinok thats way beyond my knowledge09:43
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intelikeynot any more.  now you know.09:44
intelikey:)09:44
plugshow do i connect to my network printer?09:44
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intelikeycups ?09:45
intelikey!cups09:45
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows09:45
motorcitymadman!scan09:46
ubotuScanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners09:46
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intelikeymindspin so from now on if someone asks "howto tell if within x?"  you can answer  test for "$DISPLAY"  :)09:47
mindspinI never heard such aquestion before and it sonded very newbie to me ;-)09:47
mindspinsounded even09:48
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intelikeyyeah.  the fool is the twin of the wise.  always look close before you deside which brother you are addressing.09:50
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intelikeyas to the "move the mouse" adivce you gave.  i knew that you had not used "gpm"   mouse works in the linux console, so that test is moot.09:52
mindspinbut moving around was the keyword ;-)09:52
intelikey<mindspin> but moving around was the keyword ;-)09:52
intelikeyyep09:52
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intelikeylike i just moved it, held down the left button and highlighted that text and then right button pasted it back at you.    and i'm in a console.  not X09:53
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mindspinintelikey: you are right, you can work with the mouse in console, but you cannot move around the cursor/pointer...09:56
intelikeymindspin yes i can09:56
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intelikeythat's what i just did.09:56
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mindspinok you can09:56
mindspinIonly can highlight, copy and paste things (with a three button mouse)09:57
intelikeyon two button mice.  hit both buttons for the middle on.09:57
intelikeyone09:57
mindspinits years ago when I did this ...09:58
mindspinmaybe there#s atwo button mouse somwhere here...09:58
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intelikeymindspin i also watch vidios in the console.09:59
intelikeygraphic web browsing,10:00
Infectohey how in aptitude kept the package10:00
Infectoi dont want to upgrade10:00
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Infectoit10:00
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intelikeyInfecto read the online help10:00
mindspinintelikey: to be honest, I only use console on servers and remote connections over the internet10:01
Linux_Galoreanyone seen a stable package of konversation for kubuntu10:01
Linux_Galorenot 0.19 but the new 1.0 release10:01
intelikeymindspin to be honest. i only start X once in a while10:01
Infectointelikey: i put h but nothings happend10:02
intelikeyInfecto i don't use aptitude    sorry.10:02
intelikeyInfecto iirc  it should have marked the package "ih   package-name "10:03
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intelikeyor is it  'hi  blah '    like i said, i don't use aptitude.10:04
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intelikeybut an i for installed and an h for hold  if i recall correctly10:04
Infectook10:05
InfectoF10:05
Infectoi think that will stay may package10:05
Infectoleave10:05
intelikeyInfecto the key is  "="    like i said read the online help.      "=":          Hold a package in its current version to prevent upgrades.10:06
Infectoo10:08
Infectohm okej10:08
Infectoit works10:08
intelikeyor command   aptitude hold blah    marks blah as a held package10:08
intelikeyboth of which i gleaned from aptitude -h   and  "aptitude"  then  "?"10:09
intelikeynever even opened the man page10:10
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Infectoi read ?  so many times and i dont se = now i se10:12
Infectomannn10:12
Infectoi`m so blind ;)10:12
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Infecto: is better :)10:12
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intelikeyyeah.  i litterally need some perscription glasses.   but i use these reading glasses10:13
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intelikeywithout them the screen is just pretty coloured lines.....10:14
Infectoi just kidding with this glasses :) but the truth is i can`t read doc :)10:14
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Infectoi can`t== i don` read it good10:14
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intelikeyInfecto one key to reading  on line helps  is to not scan the keys  scan the discriptions.  look for what you want to do then look at how it says to do it.10:15
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intelikeyand knowing how things are commonly said in linux terms helps considerably10:16
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intelikeyoh poop10:21
intelikeyno pcm suport.  what good is a sound card with out pcm10:21
Zvezdichkogood morning intelikey  :)10:21
intelikeyZvezdichko10:21
Zvezdichkooh, yes ( probably not morning there )10:22
intelikeyi'll have to rebuild this kernel...10:22
Zvezdichkowhy?10:22
intelikeyyes early morning here.10:22
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intelikeyno pcm support10:22
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intelikeytime 03;2210:22
Zvezdichkohm... load the module10:22
Infectointelikey: thanks for the helping me :)10:22
Zvezdichkotime : 11:2210:23
intelikeyno module support and no modules10:23
intelikeyInfecto any time.10:23
Zvezdichkoblah... this is kinda silly10:23
intelikeyZvezdichko it's a stand alone kernel  it will load from a cd and root will be on the hd10:24
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plugsis there a way to have openoffice autocapitalize "i"?10:24
Zvezdichkobecause of the harddisk space, huh?10:24
intelikeypartly10:24
Zvezdichkoa recompiled linux kernel should be about 1 mb - enought to fit on a diskette10:25
intelikey70m for a kernel and it's modules is a lot when 600m is the limit10:25
intelikey1.9m10:25
intelikeywithout modules i have to build in support for all hardware.10:26
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intelikeyall my hardware.10:26
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Zvezdichkobetter collect money for a new machine10:26
intelikeybut 1.9m is still less than half the size of the initrd.img that is default on *buntu10:27
intelikey:)10:27
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intelikeycollect money....   10110:27
Zvezdichkoyes, like me... one penny here, one there10:27
Zvezdichkothat's how I bought my machine10:28
Zvezdichkofighting with poverty10:28
Zvezdichko:)10:28
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Zvezdichkohm... Professional Beggers is new to me10:30
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insanekaneplugs: you probably have to enable autocorrection10:31
insanekaneplugs: its in Tools10:31
plugsi tried that, it's enabled.10:32
krautis it possible to switch a running debian-system in runtime from debian to ubuntu?10:33
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intelikeykraut man pivot-root10:33
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intelikeyor is that not what you mean ?10:34
krautintelikey: i don't know what i want. i am fed up with debian and i want to switch a running server from debian to ubuntu via remote.10:34
intelikeykraut then i better hush and stay out of that.   i'm networking illeterate10:35
intelikeyor just ignorant.   maybe just plain ignorant.10:36
intelikeyidk10:36
intelikeysee that proves it....10:36
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Zvezdichkomake config :)10:37
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intelikeyZvezdichko eewh10:37
intelikeymake menuconfig10:38
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intelikeyunless you do it from x10:38
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arunkaleThere was some error in installing the 'flashplayer-nonfree' plugin during update, and now i can't install or uninstall anything coz apt is apparently running to fix the problem10:43
arunkalePlease help!10:43
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arunkaleHealot, help!10:44
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emonkeyarcasa,10:44
emonkeysorry false highlight10:44
emonkeyarunkale, please be patient10:44
emonkeytry typing: sudo dpkg --configure -a10:45
intelikeyarunkale apt-get install -f    and pastebin the error10:45
intelikeyand yes root that ^10:45
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arunkaleemonkey: i did that10:46
arunkalebut it gives me an error installing flashplayer-plugin10:46
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jollyrogerWitam10:47
jollyroger:-)10:47
emonkeyarunkale, pastebin the error10:47
jollyrogerjestem nowy w kubuntu10:47
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jollyrogerI'm new in kubumtu10:48
jollyrogerI'd like to create a new partition, but don't know where's GUI app to do that10:49
jollyroger:/10:49
Healot!info qtparted10:49
ubotuqtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 198 kB, installed size 704 kB10:49
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jollyrogerso I should do: sudo apt-get install qtparted >?10:50
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Healotno :)10:50
arunkaleemonkey, intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2420810:51
jollyrogerI've got it :D10:51
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jollyrogerlooks pretty nice, thanx10:52
eeoshi all there.10:52
eeosdoes anyone now about a parametric 3D modeller that works under kubunu?10:52
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Healotblender?10:53
eeosHealot is blender parametric?10:53
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Healotit's a 3D renderer at least, i don't understand what is "parametric"10:54
arunkaleemonkey?10:54
jollyrogerI don't see ext3 (jfs) file system option while creating partition with qtparted... Did I miss sth ?10:54
emonkeyarunkale, atm no idea sorry10:55
emonkeymaybe the file's corrupted10:55
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SkrotWhich kubuntu version do I want for a Core 2 Duo CPU?10:56
Healotboth i386 or AMD6410:56
arunkaleemonkey: so how do i terminate it? anytime i try to install anything it gets stuck because apt keeps trying to get that package10:56
SkrotWhich is the "best"?10:56
intelikeyi386 is not smp  i686 is smp10:56
HealotSkrot: define "best"10:56
Skroti386 if I want 32-bit and AMD64 if I want 64-bit?10:56
Healotyes...10:56
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Healotsince C2D is 64-bit x86 CPU, it doesnt really matter if you use 32-bit or 64-bit kernel10:57
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Skrotokay.. so they should perform ~the same?10:58
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Skrotkubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso it is then :)10:58
Healotof course not. there are always differences in user experience10:58
emonkeyarunkale, try: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree10:58
knubbeid like to dual-boot between dapper and edgy, is that possible to have both installed?10:58
Skrothumhum :)10:58
jollyrogerIs it possible to create ext3 filesystem partition with qtparted ?10:58
eeosHealot parametric is when all shapes you create are built from parameters, so that when you modify one of the parameters the shapes and all the shapes that are parametrically connected do change automatically10:58
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eeoswait Healot this is the article on wikipedia10:59
Healoteeos: really i don't care, just try blender first, you'll see10:59
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eeosHealot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parametric_feature_based_modeler10:59
eeosHealot ah! ok!10:59
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arunkaleE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.10:59
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intelikeyok goig to test the new kernel.11:00
arunkalei got it to work now11:00
arunkalethanks11:00
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main2i cant get my display on 1280x102411:01
main2http://pastebin.ca/17841611:01
main2the nvidia driver is ok (glx accel is on), the gdm manager starts in 1280x102411:01
main2but then KDE goes back to 1024x768, has this anything to do with the virtual screen?11:02
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Pensacolakubuntu definately is better than windows :)11:02
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main2Pensacola: linux owns11:03
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Pensacolayeah, windows doesn't recognize my onboard audio and network card11:03
PensacolaI'm gonna have to find the cd's :s11:03
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arunkalehow do i unpackage tar.gz files11:04
intelikeyit takes me that long to reboot and connect.11:04
main2Pensacola: dont even waste ur time installing it11:04
intelikeytar -xf filen.tar.gz11:04
PensacolaI need it for gaming :)11:04
main2arunkale: well, thats really easy11:04
Skrotintelikey: So, if I install i386 versionn, and then upgrade to i686 kernel, do I need to upgrade a lot of packages to i686-optimized versions or whatnot as well?11:04
main2tar -zxvf file.tar.gz11:04
arunkalethanks :)11:04
Pensacolaif more games were made for linux, windows would be gone on my system11:04
HealotPensacola: that's not going to happen yet :)11:05
main2Pensacola: i stay with ID games at the moment...... Doom III / Quake 411:05
intelikeySkrot no. it shouldn't make any differance on most packages.11:05
PensacolaI'm a patient guy :)11:05
Skrotintelikey: How about c++ libs etc?11:05
main2Pensacola: checkout classic doom for doom3...11:05
main2its insane good11:05
Pensacolabrb11:05
intelikeySkrot mmm that i can't sware to.11:06
Skrotokay :)11:06
SkrotGuess I'll figure it out11:06
intelikeySkrot print the error and we'll go from there   :)11:06
Skrotsounds like a plan ;)11:06
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jitahow stable is the egdy knot 3 release?11:07
Healotsince it's a development, it is not suppose to be stable11:08
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intelikeyi have an issue that i don't know what the deal is.   no sound.  dsp0 is there but it's like pcm is muted and guess what   pcm doesn't appear in  aumix  all the other stuff does.11:08
intelikeyalsamixer requires alsa-utils which depends on the kernel and i don't have a kernel installed so no alsamixer11:09
intelikeycat /dev/random > /dev/dsp   is silent11:10
intelikeywait.  i think i may have found it.  three cards and one is dummy.  the first of course.11:11
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intelikeywell that was it.  just making symlinks to mixer2 and dsp2 fixed the default sound card11:22
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intelikeynow if i can fix the js i'll have every thing in a less than 2m kernel that needs no modules and does frame buffering11:24
eeosdoes anyone now about a parametric 3D modeller that works under kubuntu?11:26
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gourdinhi there11:27
mastrogimlineed italian support11:27
gourdinHow do I change gnome font configuration in kde ?11:27
intelikeyeeos apt-cache search  is your friend11:28
Healot!it11:28
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:28
mastrogimligrazie11:28
gourdinif I launch gnome-settings-daemon, it changes some kde fonts11:28
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intelikeyanyone know anything about joy stick setup ?11:29
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soeni05Give me -o please11:30
eeosintelikey already done it in all the possible combinations :(11:30
soeni05check this out #mojn torrents free GPL Asian Porn11:30
eeosintelikey or I would NOT have asked11:30
PornBotyes11:30
intelikeyeeos that's the best i can do for you.   sorry11:30
eeosintelikey :)11:31
soeni05I can hepe You11:31
eeosintelikey what a consultant! with all the money we give you! :D11:31
soeni05come to #mojn and i will helpe u...11:31
intelikeyeeos prezactly.  but beyond that.  i'm not even part of the "ubuntu" team  L(11:32
eeosintelikey :)11:32
soeni05Kubuntu is moving to #mojn pleas join for further information New Update On-site11:33
soeni05check this out #mojn torrents free GPL Asian Porn11:33
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arunkaleanyone know any good p2p clients for kubuntu?11:33
soeni05Radio #mojn11:33
jitalol11:33
soeni05Look at #mojn11:33
arunkale?11:34
Healotno operator anyways :p11:34
intelikeyarunkale gaim ?11:34
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steffstfu ffs soeni05!11:34
soeni05its a very good client11:34
jitano admin in here?11:34
soeni05its a very good client11:34
arunkalegaim is a chat client, right11:34
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eeosarunkale a client for what?11:34
soeni05Yiir right..11:34
intelikeyjita !ops   if you think they should be called11:34
soeni05!op11:35
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak or Hawkwind11:35
arunkale!p2p11:35
ubotuConventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network). BitTorrent: see !torrent Direct connect: try valknut. Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.11:35
soeni05We live in peace11:35
soeni05#mojn11:35
intelikeyarunkale gaim == gnu aim   and it does irc also11:35
arunkalei dont want an irc client man11:35
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intelikeygnutella11:37
arunkaleam trying out phex11:38
intelikeytelnet11:39
intelikeyhehhe11:39
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arunkalektorrent seems cool11:43
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intelikey    arunkale you've heard me say i am network illiterate   so if i dont even know what "p2p client" means i guess you'll beleave me now.  ;/11:45
arunkalehaha11:45
intelikeyas far as i know  ssh and telnet are p2p11:46
arunkaleok11:46
arunkalebrb11:46
intelikeyactually i think i was transposing ims/p2p ...  not that it matters.11:49
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esc[1] I do currently have some printing problems: I have a HP Officejet 5510 (using the driver hpijs for 5500 series) connected to a kubuntu 6.06 box using cups. printing works fine. when I try to print on that printer from a ubuntu 6.06 box via network, using the same driver, it only prints "$$" to the top left corner on the page... anybody has any idea?11:55
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intelikeyesc[1]  checked   !cups   ?11:57
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esc[1] yep... somebody typed that some minutes ago... I checked those urls just now... :-(11:58
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MidMark!flash11:59
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:59
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Isosshi guys ... I need a good kde program for burning ISOs to make image CDs any suggestion?12:00
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MidMarkk3b12:00
esc[1] intelikey: problem: connection to the printserver seems to work from the client... I see the jobs on the server, and at least it prints sth... (those "$$" signs)12:00
Isossthanx12:00
MidMarkguys how to bypass flash update issue?12:01
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intelikeyrouting, firewall, cups server settings, linux security settings... among other things could affect that esc[1]     you are talking about a network issue of some sort.   out of my league12:01
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MidMarkok wait for the update right?12:02
intelikeyi don't know anything, i'm just setting in this channel keeping y'all company12:03
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esc[1] intelikey: both are fresh installs, nothing new installed or configured.12:03
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intelikeyesc[1]  can you access the one box from the other and vise versa ?   ssh  or anything ?12:05
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intelikeyesc[1]  also you might find help in  #ubuntu12:06
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esc[1] i'll try that this afternoon... now it's this time for some fast-food... cya l8er12:08
intelikeyk good luck with it12:08
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intelikeyevery body hide, it's Jucato_12:10
Jucato_huh? what? err...12:10
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intelikeygooday at ya Jucato_12:11
Jucato_good day to you two12:11
Jucato_er... s/two/too12:11
intelikeyboth of me ?12:11
Jucato_heh...12:11
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Jucato_looks like everybody did hide12:12
intelikeywasnt anyone talking.12:12
intelikeybeen pretty quiet in here12:12
Jucato_aah12:12
intelikeyesc[1]  has network cups issue  but i'm network illiterate    that's about all that's been happening here for a while12:14
Jucato_ah... networking, internet, and printing... my waterloo, my achilles' heel, my kryptonite...12:14
snikkeris possible choose the x server type at login?12:14
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yvonne___Hello12:15
yvonne___i was wondering if anyone can help me12:15
zorglu_snikker: yep, it is called 'session' in the menu12:15
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yvonne___i'm trying to install real player, and every time i do it just tells me that it's BREAK (instal;l)12:15
intelikeysnikker there is one xserver.  xorg   you mean window manager/display manager ?12:15
intelikey!realplay12:16
snikkerzorglu_: yes, i know, but how can i choose i run xorg server or Xgl server12:16
uboturealplay: RealPlayer 10 for Linux is based on the open source Helix player.. In component main, is optional. Version 10.0.8-0ubuntu1 (dapper-commercial), package size 6110 kB, installed size 15456 kB (Only available for i386)12:16
snikkerintelikey: i mean xorg server12:16
Jucato_yvonne___: how are you installing it? from what repository and what package name?12:16
intelikeysnikker explain ?12:17
zorglu_snikker: by configuring it :) i dunno the xgl config by heart tho, but this part is usual explained in the tutorial. it was in the one i followed at leaast12:17
yvonne___I'm downloading it using adept manager, and tried it via apt-get install etc, the package name is realplayer when runa  search under adapt manger12:17
yvonne___intelikey:12:17
zorglu_smell like license agreement looking for a ok which never find :)12:17
snikkerintelikey: i want choose if run xorg server or xgl server...12:18
Jucato_yvonne___: try installing it from the command line to get more "descriptive" error messages: "sudo apt-get install realplayer"12:18
snikkerzorglu_: but what i must configure...12:19
zorglu_hmm kded got buggy on me, rebooting12:19
Jucato_yvonne___: once you get those messages, use !pastebin12:19
intelikeysnikker set it up in the runlevel.  then boot with the runlevel appended that you want.12:19
Jucato_!pastebin > yvonne___12:19
zorglu_snikker: you may look at the xgl page on ubuntu-fr.org, this is french and use google to translate, it was in it when i tried12:19
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yvonne___Jucato_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2422112:20
intelikeyi.e.  runlevel 2 == xorg    runlevel 3 == xgl   runlevel 4 == console only     then  boot with    2     or   3  ....       runlevels are easily configurable.    man update-rc.d12:21
snikkerintelikey: but in this way i must choose it at boot time, that's right?12:21
intelikeysnikker yes  at boot12:21
intelikeyyou can setup grub with the options12:21
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intelikeyor you could.   write a script that asks which to start  and stick it in the init scripts12:22
Jucato_gah! my internet connection is playing games on me...12:22
yvonne___Jucato_: lol12:22
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snikkerintelikey: ok, i can try with this way. thanks :)12:23
intelikey#!/bin/sh12:23
Jucato_grr... can't connect to pastebin!!!12:24
yvonne___shall i paste it in here?12:24
intelikeyread -n 1 -p "press 1 to start with xgl,  or press 2 to start with xorg" ANSWER12:24
Jucato_yvonne___: no12:24
yvonne___Jucato_: ok12:24
yvonne___ummmm12:25
Jucato_yvonne___: hold on I think it's loading now...12:25
intelikey[ "$ANSWER" == 1 ]  && blah || blah12:25
yvonne___Jucato_: Cool12:25
Jucato_... or not...12:25
yvonne___lol12:25
Jucato_yvonne___: can you try pasting it here: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/12:25
snikkerintelikey: where i must put the script?12:27
yvonne___Jucato_: sure12:28
intelikey /etc/init.d/    and symlink it to /etc/rc2.d/S99options    but remove the link to kdm in that same dir12:28
yvonne___Jucato_: thanks12:28
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intelikeyvertual abuse 10112:29
yvonne___Jucato_: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/12112:29
yvonne___Jucato_: lol12:29
snikkerintelikey: ok, thanks :)12:29
yvonne___how long has this pastebin concept been about 4?12:30
Jucato_yvonne___: as long as I can remember :P12:30
intelikeysnikker  man update-rc.d    might be a good read on that point12:30
intelikeyyou're welcome12:30
Jucato_!realplayer > Jucato_12:30
snikkerintelikey: i read also the man, of course :)12:31
MDCoreWhen I middle click a link in firefox it opens in a new tab and in the current tab. How do I get it to _not_ open in the current tab ?12:31
yvonne___Jucato_: anything come 2 mind?12:32
Jucato_yvonne___: do you have the dapper-commercial repository?12:32
yvonne___Ummm not sure12:32
Jucato_hold on, let me try looking for a wiki page about it12:33
zorglu_q. what is the dpkg command to determine if i got  appache installed ?12:33
Jucato_ugh... so maybe it's not my internet connection after all...12:34
yvonne___Jucato_: :S12:34
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intelikeyzorglu_ dpkg -l | grep <string to look for>12:34
intelikeyzorglu_ dpkg -l | grep apache12:34
intelikeyzorglu_ ii == installed12:34
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zorglu_intelikey: nothing similar to "rpm -q packagename" ?12:35
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intelikeyzorglu_ you ask about the dpkg command12:36
intelikeycheck with apt or aptitude12:36
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zorglu_ok12:36
zorglu_thanks12:36
intelikeynp12:36
yvonne___any news?12:37
intelikeyzorglu_ you could do dpkg -L package     but if it's there you get the full list of files it installed including parent dirs12:37
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Jucato_hm... yvonne___, what happens when you try to install xlibs? "sudo apt-get install xlibs"?12:38
yvonne___Jucato_: "Package xlibs is not available, but is referred to by another package."12:38
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intelikeyzorglu_ easy way to check with apt is apt-get install package     if it's already there it tells you if not it tries to install it.12:40
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intelikeybut exact name is important in all of the cases execpt the first example i gave12:41
Jucato_!xlibs dapper12:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xlibs dapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:41
intelikeyxlibs-dev - X Window System client library development files transitional package12:41
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Jucato_yvonne___: try installing "realplay" instead of "realplayer"12:43
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intelikeyfull circle12:43
Jucato_thank you chroot! :)12:44
ajusi tried to mount my usb disk... but i can't get read write permission.. i do sudo mount -o rw /dev/sda1 /media/sdc... help pls12:44
intelikeytty3 [greg@~]  q realplay12:45
intelikeykmplayer-konq-plugins - KMPlayer plugin for KHTML/Konqueror12:45
intelikeyrealplayer - Real Player (installer)12:45
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intelikeyajus sudo mount -o remount,dmask=000,fmask=111 /dev/sda1 /media/sdc12:45
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ajusok i'll try12:46
intelikeyis that vfat or ntfs ?12:46
ajusvfat12:46
intelikeyk12:46
ajusit says..you must specify the filesystem type12:47
ajuswhere should i put vfat?12:47
intelikeyit wont help.12:47
intelikeyajus sudo mount -o remount,dmask=000,fmask=111 -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/sdc12:47
intelikeybut it's not fs type that's erroring12:48
Jucato_yvonne___: how was it?12:48
intelikeymount doesnt error on vfat12:48
intelikeyit's device node12:48
intelikeycheck the device and mount point12:48
intelikeytypo maybe.12:48
ajusi can see my files.. but can't delete12:49
ajusbut when i delete from sudo mc... i can12:49
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intelikeywell umount it.  and then try with this sudo mount -o dmask=000,fmask=111 /dev/sda1  /media/sdc12:49
intelikeyor  sudo mount -o umask=000  /dev/sda1  /media/sdc12:50
intelikeyif you like executable files...  heheh12:50
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ajusintelikey: the 1st one works well.12:50
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ajusgreat.. THanks.!!12:51
intelikeythey will all work in their own ways12:51
intelikeythe lesson here is   *mask=???12:51
ajuswhat mask means?12:52
intelikeyvfat and ntfs don't have file permissions bit.  so it's set vurtually for the entire mount.12:52
ajuslike chmod or something?12:52
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intelikeydmask sets the dir permissions bit  and fmask sets the file perms   umask sets the universal  if not dmask/fmask is set12:53
intelikeylike chmod12:53
intelikeyyes12:53
zorglu_q. how do i make kde to refresh its menu with the new installed software, without having to reboot kde ?12:53
yvonne___Jucato_: sorry about the deplay, doesnt work either12:53
yvonne___:(12:53
Jucato_zorglu_: "kbuildsycoca --incremental" in Konsole12:53
intelikeyzorglu_ sudo update-menus12:53
Jucato_intelikey: update-menus doesn't work12:54
intelikeyJucato_ no ?12:54
yvonne___Jucato_: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/12212:54
intelikeyhmmm ok.12:54
ajusintelikey: wel.. quite confusing to me now... but i'll read more.. and catch u later... Thanks alot :D12:54
intelikeydoes for bb and xfce12:54
Jucato_yvonne___: do you have multiverse enabled?12:54
intelikeyajus any time12:54
zorglu_intelikey: Jucato_: thanks, the --incremental works and update-menus doesnt seems to be present on this box, too bad tho it was a bit easier to remember :)12:55
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Jucato_zorglu_: just make a K Menu entry for the kbuildsycoca --incremental command12:55
intelikeyajus setting the umask is like running a chmod ??? -R    it affects everything12:55
zorglu_Jucato_: ok good suggestion12:56
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intelikeyJucato_ hmmm i think update-menus only works on global menus  not on  personal setting    and kde may not read the global menus execpt on first run12:58
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Jucato_intelikey: I think I read somewhere that update-menus doesn't comply with fdo, so it might be removed later on?12:59
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zorglu_bla stuck again on adding user on mysql :) this stuff has been borthering for years :)12:59
intelikeyJucato_ prolly so.   isn't it a *buntu thang anyway ?12:59
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Jucato_intelikey: which is a *buntu thang?01:00
intelikeyupdate-menus01:00
intelikeyseveral of the update-*01:00
Jucato_we don't even have it installed by default?01:00
intelikeyfor that matter01:00
intelikeyreally01:00
Jucato_really01:01
intelikeymaybe it installed with hoary and has just set on my box ever sense.....01:01
Jucato_unless it's some "only God knows where" hidden command01:01
intelikeyno it's in /usr/sbin/01:01
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Jucato_nope. not here01:02
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intelikeyerr ooops01:02
intelikeytty3 [greg@~]  which update-menus01:02
intelikey /usr/bin/update-menus01:02
intelikeys/s//01:03
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zorglu_q. i would like to create/have the mysql root password of my box ? any suggestion ?01:03
Jucato_intelikey: not in dapper, not in edgy01:04
SkrotHi. I need a 686 kernel to utilitize a Core 2 Duo CPU right?01:05
zorglu_intelikey: Jucato_: btw any of you with knowledge and time to build a simple package to reduce the unniverse/multiverse issue ?01:05
intelikeyand that's another thing i have issues with.   i have 34 update-* scripts and use maybe three of them.01:05
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intelikey!smp01:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:06
Jucato_zorglu_: what issue?01:07
intelikeylinux-image-2.6.15-25-686 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.15 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP/UP01:07
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intelikeyor -27-686   ^01:08
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zorglu_Jucato_: i had an idea to create a .deb which would automatically add unniverse in the /etc/apt/source.d, then adding unniverse repository would be 'apt-get install universe-repo-config'  which would be much easier than 'edit the stuff by hand' which scare the beginners01:09
Jucato_zorglu_: hm.. they don't have to edit it my hand...01:10
zorglu_Jucato_: well they do :)01:11
intelikeyzorglu_ i have obviously spent too much time in this channel....     i'm not part of the "team"  i don't build packages.  and i know the bot better than i know most people,  so i think i'll leave for a while.... about three years should be sufficent.01:11
Jucato_zorglu_: while your idea might be nice, it suffers the same problem with automatix/easyubuntu, they modify stuff without your knowledge.01:11
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Jucato_zorglu_: which is really funny, because Synaptic and Adept (soon, I think) have completely easy interfaces for modifying sources.list01:11
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zorglu_Jucato_: without your knowledge <- i dont understand. the user is the one typing the command so he know he does it01:12
intelikeyJucato_ shalom.01:12
zorglu_intelikey: ok :)01:12
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Jucato_zorglu_: he's typing the command to install the package/script, but he doesn't know what's going on. it's both a good thing and a bad thing, though01:13
zorglu_Jucato_: ok do you have a simple cmdline that the user could cut/paste to add universe repository ?01:13
Jucato_zorglu_: hm.. you don't actually have to01:13
Jucato_er... sorry01:13
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Jucato_zorglu_: hm.. you don't actually have to "add" the universe repository, but just enable it01:13
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zorglu_Jucato_: still dont get the 'without knowledge' stuff. it is the same for all package01:13
Jucato_multiverse is a different thing, though01:13
Skrot!nvidia01:14
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:14
DannilionCan someone help me with my new wireless card?01:14
XTorchedXcheck your cable connection Dannilion01:14
zorglu_Jucato_: ok if you prefere the word enable :) so do you have a simple cut/pastable cmdline for it ?01:14
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Jucato_zorglu_: but we're not talking about simply installing a package, we're talking about installing a package that will modify sources.list01:14
DannilionXTorchedX: I'm not disconnecting the cable till I get the laptop to recognise the wireless01:15
Jucato_zorglu_: I thought you're looking for an easy way for the user? then why use the command line? but if you insist "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"01:15
zorglu_Jucato_: ok let me ask one question, how is it different that any other package ?01:15
zorglu_Jucato_: well nano :) how much time to learn this one ?01:15
Jucato_zorglu_: certainly not as much as learning to use vim. have you tried nano?01:15
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zorglu_Jucato_: i did, and he uses 'custom keys' aka keys which requires to be learned by the user. aka more time and energy01:16
Jucato_zorglu_: well, it's just my opinion01:16
zorglu_not the 'usual keys'01:16
Jucato_Ctrl+O and Ctrl+X? which are displayed prominently at the bottom?01:17
zorglu_Jucato_: i know, no blame intended :) but i tried on #kubuntu-devel and it was the same issue01:17
zorglu_Jucato_: yes01:17
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Jucato_zorglu_: other users might like your package, the same group/type of users who adore automatix and easyubuntu. The point is, at this point in time, it wil only be a 3rd-party package, held in the same light as automatix and easyubuntu01:18
DannilionMy wireless problem is that my laptop isn't detecting the wireless card01:18
Jucato_a.k.a. "use at your own risk"01:18
Jucato_ugh! internet connections...01:19
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zorglu_Jucato_: "user at your own risk" as any other universe pacakage :)01:19
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Jucato_zorglu_: you mean multiverse, don't you?01:20
mindspin;-)01:20
zorglu_but ok, well i tried for 3 days to push on this idea and it is much harder than expected, the only one not against in Hawkwind :)01:20
zorglu_so i guess it wont happen :)01:20
GnarusLeoWich command showes where my current cellphones are connected in /dev/ again??01:20
zorglu_Jucato_: well all the repositories whcih are not officially maintained by canonical01:20
Jucato_zorglu_: all of them. Ubuntu maintains them, not canonical :P01:21
Jucato_they're all maintained by Ubuntu, but multiverse has the least level of "guaranteed" support01:21
zorglu_ok01:21
Jucato_zorglu_: well, it won't make it into the official repositories for now, that I'm sure. it definitely won't make it into main. if it does make it into universe/multiverse, don't you think it would defeat the purpose of the package?01:23
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zorglu_Jucato_: yep some legal issue there01:24
Jucato_ok, gotta go for now... tata! :P01:24
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zorglu_well i tried to motivate other people to do it :) but apparendly nobody want to :)01:25
zorglu_maybe i will if one day i got the time :)01:25
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Skrot!nvidia01:25
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HetaUmaI'm making a net install of ubuntu. Can I somehow see the speed of my network ?01:26
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Skrot!nvidia01:33
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:33
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SkrotHi. For nvidia binary drivers, should the driver be "nv" or "nvidia" in xorg.conf?01:36
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Skrot!fonts01:36
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ubotuNo fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer01:36
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vvatsaSkrot: it should be nvidia01:37
vvatsanv it the opensrc driver with no 3d accel.01:37
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Skrotgoodie. brb01:38
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Skrot!cabextract01:47
ubotucabextract: a program to extract Microsoft Cabinet files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1-1 (dapper), package size 43 kB, installed size 144 kB01:47
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afm\colossushello everyone01:48
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afm\colossusis there an up-to-date howto somewhere on getting Kubuntu Edgy running with Compiz/AIGLX (not Xgl)?01:48
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zorglu_q. when i have large text entry in html and read it via konqueror, it seems to put some text in red, according to some rules i dont understand, how can i disable this ?02:01
DannilionI'm getting somewhere- my wireless card is recognised, it just won't connect (static or dhcp)02:02
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Dannilionany suggestions?02:02
zorglu_!wireless02:03
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:03
zorglu_Dannilion: i dont use wifi but have you read this page ?02:03
Dannilionyup02:03
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DannilionI'll reread it to see if I can find anything02:03
zorglu_there is a tool called wfassistant i think02:04
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naaronboCcomo hago para instalar flash en un amd 6402:04
zorglu_it is all i know about wifi :)02:04
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zorglu_!es02:04
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:04
naaronbogracias02:05
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DonGorgon!webcam02:08
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras02:08
Dannilionwhen I do a sudo dhclient wlan0, I get this:02:09
DannilionDHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 702:09
Dannilionbogus UDP packet length: 55602:09
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Dannilionthat didn't occur with my other computer02:10
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Skrot!codecs02:14
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:14
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zorglu_q. how do i disable the spell checker in konqueror ?02:17
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flaccidhmm kde wizard loads every login02:29
flaccidcan't get rid of it02:29
SkrotHi. How can I find out which video-modes are supported by my video card?02:29
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Jucato_flaccid: edit /usr/bin/startkde as root02:29
flaccidalso my eth1 lan iface gets 169.254.80.23902:29
flaccidwhats in there Jucato_02:30
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Jucato_flaccid: then look for the line "kpersonalizerrc General FirstLogin true" and set it to false or comment it02:30
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flaccidthanks Jucato_02:31
flaccidi'll test02:31
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flaccidthat seemed to have worked Jucato_02:33
flaccidhow did it get in there02:33
Jucato_bug in KDE 3.5.4 on Dapper02:34
Myself_.02:34
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flacciddang02:34
flaccidok thanks02:34
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flaccidcommon?02:34
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Jucato_yes02:34
flaccidok02:34
flaccidhow about my eth1 address?02:34
flaccid169.254.80.23902:34
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flaccidyet dhclient returns Sep 21 20:30:42 lister dhclient: bound to 192.168.0.209 -- renewal in 8985 seconds.02:35
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flaccidit appears that zeroconf is the issue02:38
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zorglu_why do you need a zeroconf address and a dhcp one ?02:40
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Noxvillehi all, does any1 know how to bridge ethernet connections and run iptables on the bridge??02:42
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visik7you need to use ebtables02:43
flaccidi have no idea02:43
Noxvilleebtables??? does that automatically bridge 2 network cards?02:44
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flacciddirectory containing linux source code in dapper?02:45
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visik7flaccid: there isn't02:46
visik7if you need source code for a specific package02:46
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visik7run apt-get source <package-name>02:46
flaccidi think i installed it via package02:46
flaccidi'm compiling cisco vpn client02:46
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beleflaccid: FYI, there's also a cisco vpn client implementation which works in userspace02:48
flaccidthanks02:49
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flaccidi actually need to use the vendor one02:49
beleflaccid: package vpnc.02:49
beleflaccid: ok :)02:49
flaccidive managed to install this client before. i just upgraded the kernel, so i need to recompile02:49
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flaccidi think they are asking for kernel source?02:50
flaccidis that /usr/src02:50
Jucato_flaccid: if the linux-headers are the "kernel source" then yes it's in /usr/src02:51
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flaccidi have this in there as well kernel-source-2.4.27.tar.bz2 which looks old02:53
Noxvilleia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha v02:54
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flaccidi need to install linux kernel source code for my kernel version. which package is this?02:57
visik7flaccid: why ?02:57
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visik7if you need to compile a module you just need the headers02:58
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visik7aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r`02:58
flaccidthanks mate02:59
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flaccid!kernel03:01
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild03:01
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LeeJunFannote: don't try to config and compile a kernel when after updating to edgy initramfs-tools deferred /bin/sh to /bin/dash :p03:02
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LeeJunFanheh, my edgy update has been a little troubled. Almost got it ironed out now though - sure wouldn't recommend updating from dapper->edgy for the noobs yet.03:04
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SillyZgmorninn03:15
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joelWhat program can I use to edit the systems firewall?03:26
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SillyZfirestarter is a good one03:27
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joelSillyZ: thanks03:28
flaccidis there a qt one?03:28
xwolf-is there a disk defrag utility for kubuntu?03:28
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max_op03:30
max_sssssssssssss03:30
max_algum do brasillllllll03:30
max_???03:30
max_?03:30
SillyZxwolf, linux filesystems do not need a defrag utiliity ie, ext2, ext3, reiser, etc03:31
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vhogemann_max_, try #unbuntu-br03:31
MenZa!defrag03:31
ubotudefragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.03:31
MenZa:D03:31
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SillyZMenZa: uhh isnt that what I just said  :D03:32
MenZaSillyZ: Just pointing out there was an entry for it.03:32
MenZa<3 ubotu03:32
SillyZah np03:32
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ninHerhi all03:33
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ubuntuninHer: hi03:33
MenZahi03:34
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Andrey-any major project mantainers in here ?03:42
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NeoSakiAudrey: project maintainers? Kubuntu Project guys?03:48
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Andrey-NeoSaki: yup03:49
NeoSakiNo clue ^^03:50
NeoSakiWhatchu need, though?03:50
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Andrey-i have a question about donations03:50
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abattoirAndrey-: you might want to ask Riddell about that...03:51
RiddellAndrey-: hi03:51
Andrey-abattoir: 10x03:52
Andrey-Riddell: private03:52
abattoirAndrey-: you're welcome :)03:52
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MorboEncuesta ( I know that #kubuntu is a Channel of only english languaje.. too i know that is a channel from questions about of sofware ...but i don't know write this question in English and i will want learn about the idea of other country.... ) .............. (((((((((((((((((((    Que opinan del discurso del presidente Chavez ayer en la ONU ?  )))))))))))))))))))))))))04:06
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ian|hi! I'm trying to install digikam on my newly installed kubuntu. So i added "deb http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/kubuntu/dapper/ ./" to my sources.lst - but I get an "403 Forbidden" when apt-get update tries to download the Packages.gz.04:06
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SandokanelGrandeQUE ES VERDAD04:06
MorboSandokanelGrande: Gracias !04:07
ian|The weird thing is, that other tools/browsers (FF/konq/wget) can get the Packages.gz without any problem.04:07
SandokanelGrandeQUE EL PRESIDENTE DE ESTADOS UNIDOS ES EL DIABLO EN PERSONA04:07
ian|Any hints?04:07
abattoirMorbo: #kubuntu-offtopic might be a nice place to talk about President Chavez(if that's what you mean)04:07
Morboabattoir: yeah04:07
Jucato_ian|: any reason you don't want to use the digikam in our repository?04:08
SandokanelGrandeI think is true. Buch is Satans.04:08
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abattoirSandokanelGrande: please take this discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic , thanks :)04:08
SandokanelGrande0k04:09
ian|Jucato_: in Which repository?04:09
Jucato_!digikam04:09
ubotudigikam: digital photo management application for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2~rc1-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 4077 kB, installed size 9724 kB04:09
Jucato_universe04:09
ian|ah, ok..04:10
ian|I wasnt using universe yset04:10
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phreakysi wonder. would it be possible to connect to windows xp with remote desktop?04:13
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phreakysi just installed rdesktop04:14
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belephreakys: hmm xp does not include terminal services server i guess04:18
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belephreakys: you could always use vnc server (xp) & krdc on client-side04:18
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phreakysthanks bele04:31
larson9999linux rocks!04:33
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Jucato_of course it does. that's why we're here :P04:34
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sorush20can I get syntax highlighting for konsole?04:36
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MenZasorush20: keep me updated. I'd like that aswell.04:37
pielgrzymanyone knows a begginers guide for lvm in ubuntu? I want to set one up :)04:38
vytautasi have a problem, a little square near mouse pointer is drawn incorrectly in blender and in k3d, so i guess problem is not in these apps, how to fix it?04:38
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Jucato_sorush20: afaik, no04:39
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sorush20I have a directory in /home that has lots of newer .deb packages can I use that as a repository and add the address to adept?04:41
sorush20my sources list?04:41
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nivansonsorush20: I don't know about the answer for your question, but keep in mind that newer packages often means higher versions on the dependencies. You can always install local packages using dpkg -i <path>.04:45
CroXMy system keeps freezing on me. I thought it was the gfx card but even with updated drivers it keeps freezing. Ayone care to lend a helping hand?04:46
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sorush20how do I add a bug to azureus https://launchpad.net/products/azureus/+filebug,04:50
sorush20where would the official bug tracker be for azureus?04:50
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omarguys I install the mule but it's not working, what can I do now04:52
ian|Is there any special lib necessary to play mp3? I cant play mp3 files with amarok (xine backend) - but other files like ogg work fine.04:52
abattoirian|: yes...04:53
abattoir!libxine-extracodecs04:53
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB04:53
abattoirian|: ^^^ that's the package, its in multiverse04:53
abattoir!mp304:53
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:53
Jucato_actually...04:53
Jucato_!multiverse04:53
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:53
abattoirian|: ^^^those pages might also help you04:53
abattoirJucato_: did i make a mistake? :P04:53
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Jucato_abattoir: of course not :P04:54
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sorush20I'm unable to install amarok because of these two packages.. The following packages have unmet dependencies.05:05
sorush20  amarok: Depends: libtunepimp3 (>= 0.4.2) but it is not installable05:05
sorush20          Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not installable05:05
sorush20!libtunepimp305:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libtunepimp3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:06
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abattoirsorush20: where are you installing it from?05:08
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sorush20abattoir: repositoires..05:09
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abattoirsorush20: yes, which ones?05:09
abattoirsorush20: which version of amarok?05:09
sorush20imbernard05:09
abattoirsorush20: are you installing from main, or from jr's repositories(kubuntu.org)05:10
xwolf-i just downloaded google earth beta and got a .bin file05:10
abattoirsorush20: hmm, ok.. do you have dapper-backports/dapper-updates enabled?05:10
abattoirxwolf-: try running it with 'sh ./filename.bin'05:10
xwolf-how do i install it? i tried ./file.bin in konsole but got permission denied05:10
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MenZaxwolf-: chmod?05:10
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xwolf-chmod +x you mean?05:10
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xwolf-yeah, that did it. thank you05:11
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mikkineed some help with installing 3d desktop05:12
Jucatowhat seems to be the problem mikki?05:12
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henkHi, is it possible to copy a txt file into my pastebuffer, it is a realy big txt file and i'd hate to cp& it in a lot of passes05:13
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mikkii dont know05:14
mikkiit just dont work :(05:14
Jucatomikki: you have tried running it?05:14
mikkirunning it, how?:P05:15
supernova_how to get root priviledge to install an application? I get an "Permission denied" error!05:16
Jucatomikki: 3d desktop is one of those kinds of programs that you have to run with a certain command05:16
Jucato!sudo05:16
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:16
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Jucatomikki: press Alt+F2 and try to run "3ddesk --acquire"05:16
Hapohow can I disable the "print screen" hotkey for KSnapshot?05:16
HapoI always hit that accidentally when using yakuake05:16
Hapothat has F12 as the hotkey05:16
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JucatoHapo: I think that's in System Settings > Regional & Accessiblity > Input Actons05:17
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Hapook, I'll have a look at that!05:18
DethKlokAnyone know about SSH?05:18
mikkidoes it work in kdm?05:18
Jucatomikki: 3D Desktop? yes it works in KDE05:18
sorush20is people.ubuntu.com down?05:19
Jucatomikki: you need to have 3d acceleration, which means you have to install the non-free/proprietary driver for your video card05:19
DethKlokIs there away to stop SSH sessions from timing out, ie disconnect from not doing anything05:19
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HapoJucato: there doesn't be any such hotkey listed in the window.05:20
arcasaWhat's the terminal code to update your kernel?05:20
supernova_I want to install a program and i want to get root priviledge for it. How do i install ot?05:20
Hapothere is Alt+Print, though05:20
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Hapobut disabling that doesn't disable just Print Screen05:20
JucatoHapo: not in Keyboard Shortcuts. I said "Input Actions"05:21
Hapooh, sorry, that one :)05:21
JucatoI think there's a05:21
Hapothe keyboard shortcut place just seemed logical05:21
Jucato"ksnapshot" entry there05:21
Hapooh, there it is.05:21
Hapoa big thanks!05:21
arcasaWhat's the terminal code to update your kernel?05:21
arcasaWhat's the terminal code to update your kernel?05:21
arcasaWhat's the terminal code to update your kernel?05:21
arcasaWhat's the terminal code to update your kernel?05:21
arcasaPlease?05:21
JucatoHapo: just disable it05:21
HapoJucato: yep, it works now05:21
Jucatoarcasa: flooding the channel won't give you answers faster05:22
Jucatoif there's a kernel update available, you will be notified in the system tray.05:22
arcasaNo.. But it get's the point across.05:22
NeoSakiarcasa: thats a good way to piss someone off who might actually help you05:22
Jucatoarcasa: or it would get you kicked05:22
arcasaMeh05:22
pielgrzymanyone using the damn lvm? please!05:22
Jucatosheesh05:23
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cgahi all =), i need to use skype to give assistanca to a friend who's going to install kubuntu. but i can't manage to talk with him; i know "i hear you, you don't" is a common problem and i'm reading the wiki @ http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/InstallazioneSkype  -- the problem i get (and i think it could solve the problem) is that when i restart aRTS i get the following message: Sound server informational message:05:23
cgaError while initializing the sound driver:05:23
cgadevice: default can't be opened for capture (Device or resource busy)05:23
cgaThe sound server will continue, using the null output device.  --what can i do? any suggestion? thanks05:23
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zezellebonjour05:25
mulahi... yesterday I asked for some help about updating my ubuntu to install kubuntu after it...05:25
mulaI used this 3 commands: sudo perl -pi.bak -e 's/breezy/dapper/i' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade05:25
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mulaand at the end of installation (after downloading about 560mb), it said that couldn't install correctly...05:26
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mulawhat do i do? :S05:26
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NeoSakimorning zezelle05:27
NeoSakinative French or just speaking it?05:27
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heXLerhi  I need an analog TV Card for my notebook. Can somebody advice me one that works with Ubuntu ?05:31
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mikkihow do i install a .run file ?05:35
grotheskDid anyone try to install flashplugin-nonfree lately?05:36
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Jucatogrothesk: broken/bugged05:36
grotheskThe version from dapper.backports is broken.05:36
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Dr_Willissh whatever.run05:36
grotheskAh ;-)05:36
mikkiok05:36
cannonballmikki: typically .run files are kind of like the self extracting EXEs in the windows world.   chmod +x filename.run && ./filename.run   But you are giving explicit trust to whatever script you are starting.  Make sure you trust it before you do something like that.05:37
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cannonballmikki: or Dr_Willis's method works just as well, but the same caveat applies.05:37
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Dr_Willisbest to avoide silly .run files.. or even worse .bin files. :P05:37
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Dr_Willisbut it depends on what you are installinmg i gues. lol05:37
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travisok, i got a question to whoever can answer it, i am trying to install flashplugin-nonfree  and it won't let me install it it says "05:44
travisdpkg: error processing flashplugin-nonfree (--configure):05:44
travis subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 105:44
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Jucatotravis: it's currently broken05:46
travisoh is it? so i can't view flash on konqueror?05:46
Jucatoor in Firefox either...05:46
travisah, that sucks....05:46
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travisdo you know when it will be fixed?05:47
JucatoI dunno how long this will last, though05:47
Dr_Willis!flash05:47
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:47
JucatoDr_Willis: it's broken/bugged05:47
Dr_Willisi wonder if the free one works?05:47
Jucatowhich is the free one?05:47
Dr_Willisor from the actual flash downloads.05:47
pielgrzymanyone using lvm here? :)05:47
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Dr_Willis!info flashplugin05:47
ubotuPackage flashplugin does not exist in any distro I know05:47
Jucatoheh05:47
Dr_Willisi seem tor ecall some free and non free flash variants05:47
travis!info swf05:47
ubotuPackage swf does not exist in any distro I know05:47
Dr_Willisnot that ive ever messed with it.05:47
Dr_WillisI try to avoide flash as much as possible.05:48
travisyeah, but i want to view www.illwillpress.com cartoons05:48
Jucato!swf-player05:48
ubotuswf-player: SWF (Macromedia Flash) player. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.6-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 144 kB05:48
travisand also like newgrounds.com05:48
travisyeah i dunno how to use it05:48
Jucatoneither do I...05:48
travisheh05:48
traviswish they would put instructions on these programs05:48
travisi mean i have that installed05:48
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lsprocI am trying to connect to a printer over Samba, but the KDE Print wizard only sees one shared printer on the remote server. This may be because that is the only printer with a share name that does not have spaces. Is this the case?05:50
Dr_WillisHmm..  Never noticed a space issue. But i tend to think ahead and not put spaces in shares :)05:51
lsproclol05:51
lsprocbtw, i made a typo05:51
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lsprocthe printer i want has spaces in it, but there is another one that i dont want that does not05:51
lsprocthe one i want is not shown, but the other is05:51
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kyron_poke ALL: does Kubuntu's stock kernel support the BAdRAM patch?05:52
ge2x!nvidia05:52
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:52
travisblah, flash, grrrr05:53
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vgeany gui program to locate largest files in hd?05:54
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vgewell nongui will do as fine, but atleast some prog05:55
travisshould i install a netscape browser or a different browser for flash support?05:55
lsprockonqueror supports flash05:55
vgefirefox as well05:55
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travisit may support it, but i haven't gotten it to work05:56
lsprockonqueror?05:56
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vgehave you installed the flash plugin?05:56
travisyeah, konqueror won't let me install flash nor mozilla05:56
travisyes05:56
travisi am pretty sure i have05:56
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lsproctravis: Install flashplugin-nonfree, open konqueror, go to plugins in settings, and rescan for netscape plugins05:57
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Dr_Willisso does poera05:57
Dr_WillisOpera05:57
lsproclol05:57
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travisheh, flashplugin-nonfree hasn't been working05:57
travisits saying a bunch of errors05:57
lsprocyeah05:57
lsprocit still installs fine05:57
lsprocbut if you copy the files in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins to a folder, uninstall flashplugin-nonfree and copy the files back it works OK05:58
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travisit does?05:58
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travisso install it, copy files, then uninstall files, then copy files back into place05:58
lsprockinda like that05:59
Bbettoa file with de .sh extension is a program?05:59
lsprocwant a bash script to help you?05:59
travisif possible05:59
lsprocok05:59
travisplease05:59
lsprocgimme 5 mins05:59
travisthanks :-)05:59
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zezellebonsoir06:01
zezelle zezelle elle est la06:01
zezelleplease06:01
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lsproctravis: Just testing it now06:03
travisalright06:03
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charlie5hi, does anyone use 'ulimit' ?06:04
lsproctravis: Can I send the script over IRC?06:04
zorglu_charlie5: i do06:04
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travisyeah, i think it will be fine, i think i have everything set for it, but if not, sorry :/ i am a newb with such things06:05
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lsproctravis: It should be sending, are you registered with freenode?06:05
charlie5zorglu_: i'm trying to set the stack limit of any app run in a bash shell ... will ulimit do it ?06:05
travisno i am not06:05
lsprocah06:06
lsprocwont work then06:06
lsprocidea 2!06:06
travisoh ok06:06
zorglu_charlie5: yes06:06
traviswhat about email?06:06
lsprocill pastebin it06:06
travisoh ok06:06
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travisthat works06:06
zorglu_charlie5: 'help ulimit' to get the doc and there is a config file too06:06
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doremihello06:06
NOxONHi all :D06:06
charlie5zorglu_: zorglu_ thanks, i'll have a look06:07
zorglu_charlie5: /etc/security/limits.conf06:07
doremifirst time in this chat06:07
NOxONMe 2 :D06:07
dmdI was turning off loads of daemons I don't need with the sysv config tool yesterday but now I have to manually connect. What did I turn off that I shouldn't?06:07
lsproctravis: http://swishcms.berlios.de/pastebin/newpaste/index.php?q=post&id=7. Copy the contents of the script into kate or something, then open a terminal and run it06:07
zorglu_charlie5: may put it in your .bashrc for confivenience06:07
doremiwhat ubuntu?06:07
travisok06:07
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NOxONUbunut is linux06:07
doremi6.0606:07
NOxON*ubuntu*06:07
NOxONyeah, i have :)06:07
travislsproc:  do i need to copy the numbers too? or not?06:08
NOxONWe all have ?06:08
u0630249hello06:08
doremii also use suse06:08
doremi10.0 and 10.106:08
NOxONhmm, suse is 2 comercial i think ... :p06:08
doremiit is06:08
u0630249someone06:08
lsproctravis: You cant :D06:08
doremiwhere r u from?06:08
lsprocbtw, i wrote that script :D06:08
NOxONhello u063024906:08
NOxONNetherlands, you ?06:08
u0630249hi noxon06:09
lsproci mean the website software06:09
doremiGrrece06:09
travislsproc: ah ok, thanks, let me see if it works, god i hope it does cause i need flash for some of my fav bands06:09
doremigreece06:09
NOxON:D06:09
travislsproc: thats cool06:09
lsprocthanks06:09
u0630249i dont know what is this06:09
NOxONWhatwhat is ?06:09
NOxONThis conversation .. ?06:09
dmdhow do i get my ethernet internet connection to start on boot instead of having to manually start it?06:09
u0630249i mean i m using linux  and get lost06:09
NOxONhmm, good question ...06:10
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NOxONWhy lost :D06:10
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NOxONIt isnt windows, so you dont lost :d06:10
travisok, i copied and pasted the script into Kate, but whenever i go to konsole it won't let me run it, what would i use as a command to run it?06:10
u0630249i tried to in to messenger and finish here06:10
lsproctravis: First run chmod 777 nameofscript06:10
lsproctravis: Then ./nameofscript06:10
NOxONYou have ubuntu right ?06:10
supernovaIs there any bandwidth monitoring software for linux which can save the daily and monthly bandwidth usage?06:11
u0630249all of u r from nothern countryes06:11
u0630249nop06:11
NOxONyou need to start Gaim06:11
NOxONor kopete06:11
NOxONkopete is cool :d06:11
lsprocyeah06:11
lsprockopete rocks06:11
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u0630249u r speakin chinesse to me06:11
NOxON:d06:12
NOxONlol, what programs do you have in the menu ?06:12
NOxONsubmenu where you found this program ?/06:12
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u0630249onl tell me all of u r from nothern countryes06:12
travislsproc: ok it went through all this text then said "done please rescan for netscape plugins for konqueror"06:12
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travisdoes that mean i go to plugins and do rescan and it should work?06:13
u0630249cause im from colombia06:13
lsprocyes06:13
lsprochttp://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/06:13
NOxONit is hot there isnt it ? :P06:13
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lsprocFlahs player tester06:13
u0630249depends06:13
u0630249we have all weather06:13
NOxONlol06:13
NOxONMoslty it is raining here in the netherlands :p06:14
travisack, it just crashed lol06:14
lsproc:D06:14
u0630249aaa so u r from holanda06:14
NOxONyeah haaha06:14
TunaTomNOxON: Right now, it's pretty sunny in germany (ruhrgebiet)06:14
NOxONyes06:14
NOxONit is almost where i live haha :D06:14
NOxONWhere you from TunaTom ?06:15
u0630249kool06:15
TunaTomNOxON: as said: germany (ruhrgebiet)06:15
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u0630249do u know espaol06:15
NOxONow you meant that way haha06:15
NOxONI almost live near to you06:15
NOxON:d06:15
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NOxONoffcourse06:15
NOxONSpain rocks ^^06:15
NOxONit is hot there :p06:16
Skrot!dapper-backports06:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dapper-backports - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:16
travisah, nevermind lsproc:  thanks it works on firefox it seems, but not on konqueror06:16
TunaTomNOxON: strange fixation to hotness ;)06:16
u0630249noxon thanx for help me i think i should continue studying06:16
yarddogif i want to install kde on ubuntu, what is the command to do this, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?06:16
NOxONyeah, you know06:16
u0630249bye bye06:16
NeoSakisudo apt-get install kubuntu06:16
NeoSakisudo apt-get install kde*06:16
NOxONyou need to look for kopete06:16
yarddogthanks06:16
NOxONon google06:16
TunaTomyarddog: yes06:17
NOxONKDE ?06:17
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abattoiryarddog: yes, that's it06:17
NOxONKDE = sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop06:17
SkrotHow do I use dapper-backports?06:17
travisnow all i need to get is to figure out how to get sound to work with flash06:17
travishahaa06:17
NOxONdont know, lol what are thy :d06:17
TunaTomNOxON: What? kopete? (\me confused)06:17
TunaTomKDE?06:17
TunaTomgoogle?06:18
NOxONno, kopete06:18
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NOxONis MSN06:18
NOxON:d06:18
NOxONand yahoo and stuff :D06:18
abattoirSkrot: do you have that enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list file(or Manage Repositories, in adept) ?06:18
NeoSakii needs a better internet radio service, anyone know one?06:18
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NOxONwww.slowradio.com06:18
NOxON:d06:18
NOxONit is lovesongs :p06:18
NeoSaki>_>06:18
NeoSakiI'm thinking rock...06:18
abattoirNOxON: try di.fm06:18
NOxONok :p06:19
Skrotabattoir: No06:19
abattoirSkrot: is it even listed?06:19
abattoir!repos06:19
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:19
TunaTomNOxON: Listening to BossHoss (popular music covered as country/western)06:19
NOxONdi.fm is all kind off stuff thank you m8 :d06:19
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TunaTomsome newbie here who needs to be rescued?06:20
NOxONhaha06:20
NOxONyeah me :D06:20
NOxONWhy cant i listen to online music06:21
travisif you know how to get sound to work in firefox for flash that would be great06:21
TunaTomuh06:21
NOxON:p06:21
NOxONhttp://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash06:21
TunaTomI think I read something about that, some time ago.06:21
TunaTomlemme have a look06:21
travisheh ok, cause i have flash installed, but the sound doesn't work06:21
abattoirSkrot: it's listed in the file, you just have to enable it06:21
Skrotabattoir: I tried to add "dapper-backports" to one of them06:22
abattoirSkrot: nope, make sure you do it properly... just adding 'dapper-backports' might not help, you need to add an entire line(entry)06:22
abattoirSkrot: it is already present, you just have to enable it06:22
Skrotokay06:23
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abattoir!repos06:23
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:23
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abattoirSkrot: ^^ might help you06:23
TunaTomtravis: That seems to be the solution that once helped me when still on gentoo:06:23
TunaTomhttp://www.macewan.org/2006/06/01/howto-firefox-flash-video-sound-on-ubuntu-linux-dapper/06:23
Skrotabattoir: Yeah, I saw06:23
SkrotI've clicked "Full Upgrade" now and there is no visual feedback, but apt is locked06:23
abattoirSkrot: well, you cant run adept/apt/synaptic simultaneously06:24
SkrotI know06:24
abattoirSkrot: close adept, and try apt-get, it might be more informative06:24
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Skrotah, so adept always blocks apt?06:24
abattoirSkrot: for eg. if you did not add the entry properly, i'm not sure that adept would complain06:24
abattoirSkrot: yes, unless you are in read-only mode..06:24
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abattoir(or so i think)06:25
Skrotokay06:25
Skrotmakes sense06:25
yarddogThe following packages have unmet dependencies:06:25
yarddog  kubuntu-desktop: Depends: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins but it is not going to be installed06:25
yarddog???06:25
travisoh sweet, thanks tunatom that fixed it!06:25
pawelhttp://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports/06:25
travisi had to open it with Kate instead of gedit06:26
travisbut it did the trick06:26
travisgot me the sound :-)06:26
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starpisoht help you06:27
starpiso[18:25]  <TunaTom> travis: That s06:27
NOxONNice Travis :d06:27
TunaTomtravis: nice.06:27
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NOxONyou know, it is the first time I am @ IRC :P06:28
TunaTomtravis: "Kate instead of gedit": well, one has to work with what one gots ;)06:28
zorglu_q. i got a file and i would like to know to which package it belongs ? what is the apt or dpkg command for that ?06:28
NOxONI always use apt-get or aptitude :D06:28
travistunatom:  yes i know, and i forgot that i don't have gnome but KDE06:28
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TunaTomzorglu_: dpkg -S filename-search-pattern06:29
TunaTomzorglu_: from man dpkg06:30
zorglu_TunaTom: ok thanks06:30
TunaTomzorglu_: cheers.06:30
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TunaTom(whispers to self): Easy problems today.06:30
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NeoSakiDon't bring down the hammer06:31
TunaTomhu? wuzzat06:31
NeoSakidon't threaten the god06:31
NeoSaki...dont do its...06:31
zorglu_cool i got another one :) how to make kdesu keep the password for a while, as sudo does06:31
TunaTomzorglu_: well, -n tells kdesu to _NOT_ store the passwd, so06:33
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TunaTomI think storing it is default?06:33
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zorglu_TunaTom: nope :)06:34
zorglu_at least not on kubuntu06:34
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zorglu_try yourself, and the doc talk about a checkbox which isnt on kubunut06:34
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zorglu_there is another one with kdesud ... but i find no config file06:35
zorglu_and the running deamon doesnt seems to have option06:36
supernovaHow can i monitor my total bandwidth usage?06:37
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zorglu_supernova_: configuration of system guard, or other monitor like gkrelmm can do it06:39
supernova_i am using knetload but it can't save the statistics....each time the system is reboot it loses all previous data...any other package?06:40
TunaTomzorglu_: I found some info on it: apparently it doesn06:40
TunaTomt work:06:40
TunaTomhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/3600706:40
LeeJunFanhaha, this is fun. Put C64 emulator on one screen, vmware vista on another, and UAE (Amiga emulator on another) then spin the cube in XGL - nobody will know what the hell you're running.06:40
TunaTomsupernova_: vnstat?06:40
supernova_not vnstat....anything else?06:41
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nivansonLeeJunFan: ... but why? :'|06:41
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LeeJunFannivanson: shock and awe - just because you can with linux.06:41
zorglu_TunaTom: cool im not the only one to hit the issu e:)06:42
notechTo each his own i guess06:42
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sorush20what is the shortcut key for moving from one tab in konsole to another?06:43
zorglu_recently i hit several bugs and apparently multiple projects seem to pass over the hot patatoes :)06:43
fdovingsorush20: shift+right and left.06:43
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sorush20fdoving: thank06:49
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TunaTomzorglu_: perhaps these bugs are reserved for you to solve them :)06:50
pielgrzym!pympd06:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pympd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:51
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pielgrzym!mpd06:51
ubotumpd: Music Player Daemon, the name says it all. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.5-5.1 (dapper), package size 96 kB, installed size 332 kB06:51
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zorglu_TunaTom: if ubuntu people do my job, i will do their :)06:55
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jang_hi06:55
zorglu_and the first which tell me how to come back to a focusde mind, win... all my consideration :)06:55
TunaTomzorglu_: <moral_mode>hey, that's a community project, so you're supposed to contribute</moral_mode>06:56
zorglu_TunaTom: and i do :)06:56
zorglu_but not by code06:56
TunaTomzorglu_: focused mind, he? that's tricky. Don't know if you can do that without a shell...06:56
zorglu_hmm maybe it is the key06:57
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dmdquick favour- could somebody with sysv-rc-conf installed please tell me what run levels loopback should be running on please?06:57
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zorglu_like i should close all other sources of information, and gather in my shell to get back my focus06:57
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TunaTomzorglu_: Try stepping back, go for a walk. Do sports or meditation (not the esoteric stuff, just the plain and simple ones).06:57
zorglu_TunaTom: hmm i tried that for a week :)06:58
zorglu_but thanks for your support :)06:58
Skrot!java06:58
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository06:58
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TunaTomzorglu_: Well, didn't help that much, did it?06:59
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zorglu_TunaTom: nope, i made the mistake of going to a 5day hollyday during a working phase, and now i have trouble coming back, but i force :) it is the issue when doing complex thing07:01
zorglu_you got an inertia to get up to speed07:01
TunaTomzorglu_: oh dear! that's the hardest problem i know!07:02
TunaTomgetting back to "normal" after a pretty nice time,07:02
zorglu_and from 0 to this speed is really a painfull moment :) especially if you were at this speed 2weeks ago. you just fill dumb during the whole acceleration :)07:02
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zorglu_ok i will go for a walk then :) walk slowly and mindfully :)07:03
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TunaTomzorglu_: cu07:03
cpk2zorglu_: walk while thinking =)07:03
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zorglu_htanks guys for your support :)07:04
zorglu_ok i go now :)07:04
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jpiccolo_what is benfit of install installing as a server?07:08
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insparedes!es07:09
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:09
cpk2jpiccolo_: you can script the installation07:09
TunaTomjpiccolo_: minimal install :)07:09
jpiccolo_oh ok07:09
TunaTomjpiccolo_: so x, kde, gnome etc.07:10
jpiccolo_only get what you need then right07:10
cpk2it doesnt come with a window manager07:10
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cpk2and you can script the install so its easy to install on say 100 boxes07:10
TunaTomjpiccolo_: for most inexperienced users it would be _much_ less than what they need.07:10
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jpiccolo_so pick that if i only want a http and ftp server07:10
wincide!es07:10
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:10
TunaTomjpiccolo_: or if you know what you do: I used it to have kubuntu from a ubuntu disc07:11
jpiccolo_or should i do a regular install but just min install with kde07:11
TunaTomjpiccolo_: how experienced would you say you are?07:12
jpiccolo_i have been using kubutu as my main rig for about 6 months07:12
jpiccolo_but i would like to have X07:13
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TunaTomjpiccolo_: Then I'D say don't use the server install.07:13
TunaTomjpiccolo_: regular install and afterwards do a cleanup of what you don't want?07:13
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TunaToms/?/!/07:14
jpiccolo_ok, i tired DSM, gentoo, and fedora 5 and only got DSM to work07:14
TunaTomjpiccolo_:? you said you used ubuntu for 6 months?07:14
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TunaTomjpiccolo_: gentoo without a console?07:14
jpiccolo_i tired the gentoo gui and non-gui install07:15
TunaTomah07:15
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jpiccolo_from there live cd07:15
TunaTomWell, I'd recommend using a regular install and then a cleanup afterwards.07:15
jpiccolo_i want to try a couple flavors being a comp sci major07:15
TunaTomThen you'd have a generic setup, which should work on most stations with the smallest hassle.07:16
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jpiccolo_yeah, ok cool07:16
TunaTomOh, as a educational experience ubuntu is not so very well.07:16
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jpiccolo_yeah its pretty easy to work with07:17
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TunaTomFor that, you should _really_ take like 2 months and try linux from scratch very slow!07:17
reonhi07:17
TunaTomhi07:17
jpiccolo_i think i am going to try gentoo again07:17
TunaTomyeah, they have a great community!07:18
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reonjpiccolo_ have a look at Sbayon Linux, based on Gentoo07:18
reonSabayon Linux07:18
jpiccolo_do you know what flavor is used most in industy?07:18
TunaTomjpiccolo_: what are you about?07:18
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TunaTomjpiccolo_: the most used flavor there is perhaps hpux or solaris07:19
reonIn industry I would say Red Hat stuiff07:19
TunaTomjpiccolo_: but one unix is like the other.07:19
TunaTommostly07:19
TunaTomexcept for package and process management07:19
jpiccolo_yeah basicly07:20
reonHave a look at this http://www.sabayonlinux.org/07:20
jpiccolo_many people use slack?07:20
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Junitoyes, the slackers :)07:20
jpiccolo_haha07:20
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TunaTomjpiccolo_: www.distrowatch.com07:21
HapoI'm btw the finnish translator of distro watch :)07:21
jpiccolo_yeah i was looking there07:21
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user__hi everyone07:21
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Astromanhey07:22
TunaTomHapo: hey, that's cool. So you're kinda famous, huh?07:22
Astromani run memtest yesterday and i got errors with test #5 what does it mean ! My ram is new it's OCZ platinium dual channel ???07:22
HapoTunaTom: nope, no-one knows me from that; I've only translated the GUI strings a couple of times, that's all :) not any content07:23
gronbaekHi people... can anybody help me getting kicker working again? Keep crashing with: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16907:23
Hapobut being a freelancer for Opera Software is something that I'm known for :)07:23
TunaTomHapo: Well, I'm know for being a java developer.07:24
TunaTomBut only by few people :))07:24
gronbaekAnyway that i can see what applet that makes it crash? Or do you think it's something else?07:24
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TunaTomgronbaek: some applets destabilizy kicker.07:25
HapoTunaTom: nice :)07:25
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Hapoactually it's only some nerds that I'm famous among :P07:26
insparedes!es07:26
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:26
TunaTomgronbaek: try and mv the  configuration file, restart kicker and see if it works07:26
Hapowhen the general public uses opera in finnish, it doesn't see my name anywhere.07:26
DannilionDoes anyone know if it is at all possible to get an Airgo wireless card to work in Kubuntu?07:26
gronbaekyes... thats whar i figured. But I cant figure out what applet. I have not installed anything new or made any changes...07:26
TunaTomHapo: Well, I'd be happy if I had some nerds to be famous among :)07:26
TunaTomgronbaek: sometimes the configuration gets b0rked.07:27
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TunaTomgronbaek: so just give it a try: mv the configuration and redo all your configuration work.07:27
gronbaekdone... that works...07:28
gronbaekstill getting the error... but kicker starts07:28
travisq.  Why does mozilla fire fox run so slow and konqueror run so fast?07:28
TunaTomgronbaek: cool. So I ... I ... helped?07:28
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DannilionOk, that helped (a little :P)07:29
TunaTomYEEHA!07:29
gronbaekhm... kate makes the same error when it starts. Yes TunaTom... you are my hero now :-)07:29
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TunaTomHey hapo: Seen that? I'm someones hero!07:29
gronbaekDo you now ehat that error message means in general? Remember this is you first quest as a hero...07:30
TunaTomgronbaek: Well...07:30
TunaTomIt means something didn't work.07:30
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gronbaekyesyes... thanks alot07:31
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TunaTomsorry, but "X-Error" could be almost everything.07:31
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alex_hi07:32
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abattoirsomeone getting the bad device error?07:32
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abattoir!baddevice07:33
ubotubaddevice is If you are getting errors similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168  Then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.007:33
TunaTomOh, now that you say it: the text was wrapped around..07:33
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TunaTomThe error message said : BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16907:33
abattoirTunaTom: you can safely ignore it07:33
abattoiror you can go to the above link and make sure you dont get it again07:33
jpiccolo__tunatom, do you still have the stuff in your config for a tablet pc07:34
TunaTomabattoir: actually it was gronbaek who had that error, i just didn't read his error description properly.07:34
klerfaytis it possible to configure fonts so that msttcorefonts will look like in windows but every other font will keep kubuntu's default settings?07:34
abattoirTunaTom: oh ok07:34
abattoirklerfayt: i'm not sure what you exactly mean, but you can set different fonts for different elements, like a window's title, menu etc.07:35
gronbaekbut thanks anyway abattoir07:35
abattoircheck Kcontrol/system settings->Appearance..->Fonts07:35
abattoirgronbaek: :)07:35
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gronbaekbut while i'm here... i also seem to be getting kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available! alot when starting kate and other kde applications.07:36
gronbaekAny links for that one?07:37
abattoirgronbaek: unless it prevents the app from starting i guess you can ignore it... does it come when you start kate as root?07:37
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murchadhHi all! Quick question, when going through Control Centre -> System Administration -> Users & Groups or System Services or Disk & Filesystems I get the KDE Crash Handler07:38
murchadhCan run kuser no prob otherwise... any ideas?07:39
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gronbaekI havn't really noticed... i seems random. Can't get it right now. Lots of other errors.... but everythings seems to start.07:41
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JohnFluxmurchadh: file a bug report please with the full output from the crash handler07:41
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JohnFluxmurchadh: doesn:t sound very good07:41
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remarkubuntu is shit07:55
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Hawkwindremar: Please watch the language08:00
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mnbthis kubuntu dont installed my default language08:00
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mnbbug..08:01
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ubuntu_Hi, I am trying to install kubuntu and already experience an install issue. can someone please help?08:04
murchadhThanks JohnFlux: Have filed a bug report @ https://launchpad.net/products/breezy-backports/+bug/6171608:05
notechubuntu_: should state the issue, then people will know if they can help :)08:05
ubuntu_notech:  I was typing the error...  After preparing my hd, I set mount points but when I click on continue, it does not continue and tells me: "Filesystems used by the system (/,/boot, /usr, /var) must be reformatted for use by this installer08:06
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ubuntu_so, what should I do?08:06
soulriderhi everyone108:07
notechubuntu_: and it gives no option for it to reformat them?08:07
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ubuntu_yes, I can check partitions, but the partitions I wish to format ( / and swap) are already checked. The other two I do not wish to format which are (/boot and /home) are unchecked.08:08
ubuntu_moreover, the /boot partition is the first primary partition which already contains Windows XP. So, I set its mount point as /boot08:08
notechubuntu_: ohh. sorry, i've only installed it once and wouldn't want to give you bad advice. out of curiosity, what filesystem are they?08:09
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ubuntu_So, I have a total of 4 partitions: sda1 as being Windows XP and will be my /boot. Then sda2 = swap then sda5 = / and sda6 = /home (which already contains data)08:09
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ubuntu_ext308:10
weedarUhm, can anyone see the page at http://dead.net in firefox in linux?08:10
notechum, doesn't make sense to me. you can't keep xp and also use it as /boot08:10
satafterh why would my system stop mounting my xp partition on boot?08:10
murchadhubuntu_: DON'T make your Windows Partition /boot08:11
ubuntu_so what should I do, then?08:11
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notechweedar: yes, but it's blank.08:11
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murchadhubuntu_: You need two partitions, minimum to install Linux. One will be / and one will be swap. You could have more partitions for /us=r and /home and /boot but they can live in your / drive.08:12
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ubuntu_so, do I have to create /boot swap and / ?08:13
weedarnotech: thanks, that's the same behaviour I get :)08:13
murchadhfrom what you posted above sda5 will be / and sda2 will be swap. The installer will create /usr, /home and /boot, etc. for you. Make sure you don't allow the partitioner to format sda6 as you have data on it already.08:14
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murchadhsda6 will be fine for /home as you already have it partitioned that way...08:15
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octanhi all08:17
ubuntu_murchadh: so far I decided to create: sda1 = ntfs (existing) sda2 = /boot (new partition) sda3 = swap (new partition) sda5 = / (new partition) sda6 = /home (already existing) I will enable for format /boot swap and / Is this fine so far?08:17
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DinkHas anyone tried 2.6.18 kernel ?08:19
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ubuntu_murchadh: ?08:20
murchadhYou only really need a /boot partition for kernel upgrading/testing I think, and it can be small, like 100mb. I dont use one.08:20
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ubuntu_murchadh: solved it. thks08:20
HawkwindLinux Britannia 2.6.18-01 #1 SMP Wed Sep 20 08:00:45 CDT 2006 i686 GNU/Linux08:20
HawkwindDink: I have :P08:20
DinkHawkwind did you have trouble with module-assistant ?08:21
yarddogwhen i sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop or kde, i keep getting broken package message and it will not install, any idea on this?08:21
HawkwindDink: Though I build my own from kernel.org kernels using a how-to on one of my forums08:21
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Dinkme 2 just having problems using latest ati 8.29.6 ... keeps giving me kernel headers not ofund... even though its there08:22
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Dinkthink it might me a module-assistant problem08:22
Dinkbe*08:22
HawkwindAh I don't use ATI at all.  I have nvidia which worked like a charm :)08:22
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murchadhI have hda as follows: hda1 ntfs winxp, hda2 vfat (FAT32 data partition), hda3 ext3 /, hda4 ext3 /home and my swap is on a different disk.08:23
Dinkbastage :p08:23
octananyone a expert on Kdm08:23
octani need to startup two X from kdm  "kdmrc" one Xgl and one plain X when i login08:23
octanbut i dont have no idea how i should do it..08:23
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Dinkor it might just be that is not fully compatible with 2.6.18 yet even though it says so :P08:23
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kristinais there an irc chat 4 pc components i want to buy a new cpu08:24
murchadhyarddog: Have you tried apt-get update and apt-get -f install (as root via sudo)08:24
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octankristina there are many clients :P08:25
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yarddogmurchadh, yeah, ive tried different sources too08:26
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yarddogThe following packages have unmet dependencies:08:27
yarddog  kubuntu-desktop: Depends: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins but it is not going to be installed08:27
yarddogE: Broken packages08:27
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murchadhyarddog: Did you try apt-get install kdegraphics-kfile-plugins08:28
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yarddogThe following packages have unmet dependencies:08:28
yarddog  kdegraphics-kfile-plugins: Depends: libpoppler1-qt (>= 0.5.1) but it is not going to be installed08:28
yarddogE: Broken packages08:28
paulo_hello folks08:28
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yarddogThe following packages have unmet dependencies:08:29
yarddog  libpoppler1-qt: Depends: libpoppler1 (= 0.5.1-0ubuntu7) but 0.5.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed08:29
yarddogE: Broken packages08:29
murchadhyarddog: Have you got any GUI (desktop) working?08:29
yarddogthere's the problem08:29
yarddogyeah08:29
yarddoggnome08:29
yarddoggnome works great08:30
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paulo_can i get a bit of support mounting a USB hard drive with two ext3 partitions on it?08:30
paulo_please!08:30
Buffy^easy dont push08:30
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paulo_excuse me?08:30
murchadhyarddog: Have you tried adept or synaptic?08:30
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yarddogmurchadh, no08:31
Buffy^a very quick way to get a good responce is to vist www.ubuntuforums.org08:31
txukiehi everybody08:31
Buffy^!forums08:31
ubotuThe Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.08:31
txukie!edgy08:31
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule08:31
paulo_i know the forums08:31
Buffy^!ext308:31
ubotuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org08:31
paulo_mounting is my prob08:32
paulo_because of the two partitions08:32
Buffy^!fstab08:32
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions08:32
yarddogmurchadh, here is the synaptic response:08:32
yarddogkubuntu-desktop:08:33
yarddog Depends: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins but it is not going to be installed08:33
paulo_i get return code 3208:33
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kristinado somebody know a url for a cpu channal08:34
kristina??08:34
TheGateKeeperpaulo_: are you trying to mount an ext3 partition?08:34
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paulo_TheGateKeeper: yes, the HDD has 2 ext3 partitions and is connected via USB08:35
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paulo_I have been trying without help and it ain't working08:35
yarddogmurchadh, i found this in google: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-214424.html08:35
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paulo_i am not a complete newbie, been using kubuntu for over 6 months now08:35
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paulo_only a partial newbie lol08:36
TheGateKeeper:-)08:36
paulo_any help is greatly appreciated08:36
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murchadhyarddog: Did Foxjwill's suggestion do it for you?08:38
scionany joy?08:38
yarddogmurchadh, dont know how to force it08:38
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yarddogi tried -f and it fails08:39
scionTheGateKeeper: so frustrating!08:39
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murchadhyarddog: I'd try apt get install -f libpoppler1 and see what you get.08:40
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yarddogi found the force option in the gui08:41
yarddogit downgraded it, dont know now what may be broke but ill try the kubuntu again08:41
scionplease?08:41
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yarddogmurchadh, it worked, kubuntu-desktop is installing08:42
yarddog:P08:42
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MasterEvilAceAnyone know a place that lists the processes (found in KDE System Guard), and says which are not indeed (and now to disable them)08:42
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murchadhyarddog: Well done!08:43
yarddog:)08:43
yarddoggoogle is my friend sometimes08:43
yarddogand irc08:43
yarddogthanks08:43
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murchadhyarddog: Hope it runs and I hope you like it. I'm a K-man myself (if just not to be a g-man)!08:44
yarddogheh08:44
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scioncan i get a bit of support mounting a USB hard drive with two ext3 partitions on it?08:45
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murchadhhi scion: Did you try mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mountpoint where mountpoint is something like /media/MyUSBDrive108:46
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murchadhscion: You could md /temp and then mount -t ext3 /dev/hda3 /temp08:47
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scionmurchadh: indeed i did - mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist08:48
scionmurchadh: same output each time08:49
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pierrethhello08:50
scionhello pierreth08:50
pierrethhow are you scion?08:50
Buffy^Any one been to www.beatmaka.com and listened to the radio, its mint, love the dance section08:50
scionpierreth: head is wreaked over a usb problem!08:50
murchadhscion: Hotplug problem perhaps?08:51
pierrethscion: sorry08:51
pierrethusb 1 & 2?08:51
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pierrethmay be you have a mix of usb 1 & 208:52
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pierrethhow can I fix the scroll bar in Firefox?08:52
heinkel_112_is there a command line e-mail client 'mail' for kubuntu?08:53
scionmurchadh: tried turning on and off, tried using in diff usb ports08:53
heinkel_112_it is a very simple old unix thing?08:53
heinkel_112_but there are 9999 packages with names containing 'mail'08:53
MasterEvilAcepierreth: are you using Edgy?08:53
scionpierreth: the motherboard takes usb2 and the usb adapter cable uses usb2 also08:54
pierrethMasterEvilAce: No, I don't think so08:54
pierrethscion: do you have usb2 cables?08:54
scionscrollbar? whats up with it08:54
MasterEvilAcepierreth: See if you have System Settings - >Appearance -> GTK Styles        And there MIGHT be a section at the bottom talking about a Firefox scrollbar fix08:55
pierrethscion: I have two arrows at the bottom08:55
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pierrethscion: the scrolling bar goes over the first arrow at the bottum08:56
murchadhheinkel_112: Try mutt! CHeck this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1512808:56
pierrethMasterEvilAce: I do not have this section08:56
tony_#whois willey08:56
scionpierreth: yes, i got this one http://cgi.ebay.ie/New-USB-2-0-to-IDE-HDD-2-5-ft-Cable-with-Power-Adapter_W0QQitemZ200029636707QQihZ010QQcategoryZ41994QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem08:56
heinkel_112_murcadh i was recommended to use mail to test a sendmail mta08:57
scionand it works fine with a vfat single partition HDD08:57
MasterEvilAcepierreth: I am not sure, then. Edgy (the newest Kubuntu version.. which is alpha/beta/whatever) must have added it08:57
scionbrb folks, dinner is burning08:57
MasterEvilAcepierreth: The section says it adds a file or something to firefox, to fix scrollbars08:58
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pierrethMasterEvilAce: can you send me this file?08:58
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pierrethMasterEvilAce: Otherwise, I will wait for the next version08:59
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pierrethMasterEvilAce: I is not a big issue08:59
MasterEvilAcepierreth: let me look into what exactly it does, and what it is, i'll get it for you08:59
pierrethMasterEvilAce: :-)08:59
heinkel_112_murchadh: i think i found it, it is called mailx08:59
pierrethscion: you have a strange device, not sure this will work with Linux09:00
murchadhheinkel_112: Nice one, everyone is sorting themselves out today. Class!09:00
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ostenhello09:01
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pierrethosten: hello09:02
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ostenI am a total linux newbie09:02
ostenAnd something is terribly wrong09:02
ostenSuddenly I can't use my ctrl button09:02
ostenIt just returns strange characters when I press it, like this: fh87Q09:02
pierrethosten: type 'xev'09:03
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ostenokay09:03
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pierrethosten: in the command line09:03
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ostenokay, done09:04
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ostenI got an event tester09:04
pierrethosten: yes , test your control keys09:04
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ostenThere's so many events when I press ctrl09:04
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reonAnyone here know where to find the Kickoff start menu ?09:05
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pierrethosten: what is the keysym for the control key?09:05
pierrethreon: You have lost the menu?09:06
ostenhmm09:06
klerfaytreon: alt+f109:06
pierrethosten: Look at the key press event09:07
ostenI can't copy what it says :)09:07
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ostenBut it spams KeyRelease event09:07
ostenLike 50 every second I hold it down09:07
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ostenaha09:08
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abattoirreon: i think that's a 'SuSE solution'09:08
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abattoirreon: its not part of kde(at least for now), and kubuntu doesnt include it09:09
pierrethosten: what is the keycode of your control key?09:09
yarddogmurchadh, it works wonderful ;P09:09
ostenthe keysum is first 0 then Odiaeresis then KP_Up then Q Then Control_L, then delete, then KP_Home 85709:09
ostenlooped09:09
reonKickoff is part of Suse and it is being released into KDE. http://home.kde.org/~binner/kickoff/sneak_preview.html09:09
ostenmany different keys09:09
reonWondering if their is a rpm out their somewhere09:09
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ostenand I just realized this all applies to the numpad enter key aswell :X09:10
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pierrethosten: what is the keycode?09:10
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ostenmany different ones09:11
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pierrethosten: the keycode and the keysym is not the same, do you have many keycode?09:12
ostenlike, first 107 then 79 then 50 and so on09:12
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ostenspams loads of events even if i just tap it lightly09:12
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MasterEvilAceum how do i auth with NickServ, or whatever?09:12
pierrethosten: the control key at the left or at the right?09:12
ostenat the left09:13
ostenand keypad return aswell09:13
MasterEvilAceubotu nickserv