[12:11] <Ash-Fox> Could someone reccommend me publishing software?
[12:11] <zorglu_> LeeJunFan: ok, im unable to reproduce it.. lets say it didnt happen :)
[12:11] <sorush20> Josh_: in adapt check the kAudioCreator package and view its details then you can download the recommended packages for it..
[12:11] <satempler> Ash-Fox: scrubis is the one i know of
[12:12] <LeeJunFan> zorglu_: okay, it could have been a specific file or type of file that aggrevated some type of bug in a plugin for highlighting.
[12:12] <ahmeni> echo1: try "LIBGL_DEBUG='verbose' glxinfo" and see if that gives any extra information
[12:12] <Ash-Fox> satempler, thankyou
[12:12] <satempler> np
[12:12] <zorglu_> LeeJunFan: yep just retried to reload the same file (a simple .sh) nothing happen
[12:12] <sorush20> Josh_: there is a reommended package for flac free lossless audio codec
[12:13] <zorglu_> LeeJunFan: i closed the instance eating cpu, i will study more if it happen again
[12:13] <echo1> ahmeni: yeah, libGL error: XF86DRIQueryDirectRenderingCapable returned false
[12:13] <Coffeeman1> does cisco include linksys?
[12:13] <echo1> and of course "direct rendering: no"
[12:14] <LeeJunFan> Coffeeman1: cisco owns linksys but they are 2 VERY different product lines.
[12:14] <Sanne> bye all
[12:14] <Coffeeman1> bye
[12:14] <MasterEvilAce> wow
[12:14] <Josh_> sorush20 in the respositories?
[12:14] <MasterEvilAce> he left before we could say bye.
[12:15] <Josh_> sorush20 it wont encode my wav files
[12:15] <Josh_> sorush20 however its encoding my ogg
[12:15] <Coffeeman1> Im in the wrong place but im trying to get aircrack to work on my computer...=P
[12:15] <harleypig> How can I uninstall openoffice without uninstall kubuntu-desktop?
[12:15] <gnomefreak> harleypig: let it uninstall kubuntu-desktop
[12:16] <LeeJunFan> harleypig: just do it, uninstalling kubuntu-desktop doesn't mean that it will remove all the kde and what not.
[12:16] <harleypig> oh.  ok ... thx
[12:16] <OOD> it will just remove the metapackage that points to other packages
[12:16] <rawr> why uninstall kde?
[12:16] <OOD> it's not gonna uninstall kde
[12:16] <rawr> ahh read out of context
[12:17] <Josh_> anyone know what flac free lossless audio codecs is supposed to do?
[12:18] <OOD> it's a lossless audio codec like wav (high quality)
[12:18] <harleypig> It's still not letting me uninstall ... I even tried apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop and I'm still getting dependencies errors about openoffice.
[12:18] <harleypig> apt-get -f install doesn't fix anything.
[12:18] <JFreakCapo> when try to burn a cd i receive a message of acces denied to device, how can i set access to my user??
[12:18] <rawr> how much better is edgy  sposed to be?
[12:18] <cpk2> cant you do like a recursive uninstall?
[12:18] <OOD> it's still in alpha
[12:18] <OOD> so it isn
[12:19] <OOD> isn't stable
[12:19] <MasterEvilAce> rAWR: a lot faster
[12:19] <MasterEvilAce> i'm using it
[12:19] <OOD> but a lot of performance improvements :)
[12:19] <cpk2> its almot to release =)
[12:19] <OOD> actually it's still a month away t'ill release ;)
[12:19] <MasterEvilAce> yeah things break frequently if you update a lot
[12:20] <rawr> I see
[12:20] <cpk2> hey, the last release they had was 5 months ago
[12:20] <cpk2> so its almost there =P
[12:20] <rawr> i can't get flash plugins to even install so better wait
[12:20] <rawr> i type in sudo update-flashplugin
[12:20] <MasterEvilAce> flash installed on edgy forme
[12:20] <OOD> cpk2: no it was 2 and a half months ago
[12:21] <MasterEvilAce> i think i only installed mozilla-flashplugin or something??
[12:21] <MasterEvilAce> works for me
[12:21] <cpk2> OOD: 6 month release schedule?
[12:21] <rawr> and it gives me this error automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream change
[12:21] <cpk2> oh yeah nevermind dapper was late
[12:21] <OOD> cpk2: dapper was delayed by 2 months, but edgy contiuned normally so it's only got 4 months
[12:21] <OOD> yeah
[12:22] <MasterEvilAce> OOD: no wonder. that seemed really quick
[12:22] <cpk2> the wiki has an entry on how to install flash
[12:23] <rawr> i am currently reading a thread about the error
[12:24] <arcasa> I HAVE WORKING WINE!
[12:24] <OOD> wine's great
[12:24] <rawr> XD
[12:24] <arcasa> Heh.
[12:24] <OOD> i dont think i could use linux without wine
[12:24] <rawr> I just hate how so many things arer made for windows
[12:25] <rawr> while so little gets linux ports
[12:25] <LeeJunFan> OOD: yea, you learn to as you find more apps to fill your needs. One at a time.
[12:25] <OOD> some will never be replaced however, games and multimedia apps are the problem
[12:25] <MasterEvilAce> yup
[12:25] <MasterEvilAce> winamp for linux would be brilliant
[12:25] <sorush20> transition from one page to another in kpdf is not very smooth.. acroread is much better as expected
[12:25] <cpk2> cedega works for most popular games
[12:25] <LeeJunFan> OOD: I only have 2 applications I need windows/wine for. Games are another story...
[12:25] <cpk2> and we have tuxracer!
[12:26] <rawr> My most angryest thing was not being able to use super (c)
[12:26] <rawr> with wine.....
[12:26] <sorush20> MasterEvilAce: what feature of winamp are you looking to have that xmms and other programs don't have?
[12:26] <OOD> you can use winamp in wine, although it's pretty buggy
[12:26] <cpk2> MasterEvilAce: you know xmms is a winamp clone?
[12:26] <LeeJunFan> I'd take amarok over any other mp3 player any day.
[12:27] <OOD> audio creation software is just about nonexistant on linux
[12:27] <MasterEvilAce> sorush20: mainly i'm just TOO used to it. media library, and the way everything else is setup and works for my heavily modified preferences :)   xmms sucks, it's a clone of older winamp so i don't like it
[12:27] <MasterEvilAce> i use amarok
[12:27] <MasterEvilAce> It's pretty good, but it's a shame it sucks for networked files
[12:27] <LeeJunFan> OOD: you mean like waveform? mp3 and such?
[12:27] <OOD> there's no reason or fl studio or cubase or sonar
[12:27] <OOD> etc
[12:27] <OOD> those are audio editors
[12:27] <MasterEvilAce> OH YEAH
[12:27] <sorush20> MasterEvilAce: have you tried amarok? its great..
[12:27] <OOD> yep
[12:28] <MasterEvilAce> I use FL Studio a lot
[12:28] <DSlicer> Are there any known issues with trying to create an xfs partition when installing? I get an error message "There was a problem with mkfs.xfs"
[12:28] <OOD> FL studio is awesome
[12:28] <MasterEvilAce> sorush20: yup it's what i use, i like the interface, everything about it
[12:28] <OOD> it's waht i use
[12:28] <mad_man> when i minimize a program it completely disapears. they wood minimize to the panel before. how can i have programs to minimize back to the panel ?
[12:28] <MasterEvilAce> OOD: what genre do you do in FL?
[12:29] <OOD> i'm into trance and d & b
[12:29] <MasterEvilAce> that's hot
[12:29] <MasterEvilAce> listening to bassdrive on amarok right now
[12:29] <OOD> you?
[12:29] <cpk2> dont you have to buy FL?
[12:30] <OOD> yeah
[12:30] <MasterEvilAce> i love heavy electronic / trance / drum n bass, etc. But everything I make .. i'm not sure how to describe it. it's electronic though. regular sounding drums with synths and such
[12:30] <OOD> best money i ever spent
[12:30] <rawr> whats libflash-mozplugin?
[12:31] <satempler> Riddell: you around
[12:31] <elknof1> hi everybody..  hey i'm having some trobles while conecting to the wireless
[12:31] <OOD> yeah synths and complex drum beats along with some killer pads :)
[12:32] <elknof1> im using a delll 600m with prowireless 2100
[12:33] <OOD> rawr: that's flash
[12:33] <pete> So I tried to open up Azureus. And then it went crazy and shut down. Now I'm getting a warning window in the bottom right corner of the screen because of it, and it won't go away, even when I click "hide", how could I get rid of it?
[12:33] <zorglu_> !paste
[12:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:33] <rawr> ahh it is.
[12:33] <rawr> welll now i can't get adpet to work error: The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[12:34] <OOD> do apt-get update in terminal
[12:34] <rawr> oh no space.
[12:34] <rawr> dur !
[12:34] <OOD> eh?
[12:34] <OOD> you on a live cd?
[12:34] <rawr> i put a space insted of a _
[12:34] <rawr> -
[12:34] <rawr> XD
[12:34] <OOD> oh, that's what you meant
[12:35] <OOD> though you meant space as in megabytes
[12:35] <rawr> ahh i see i screwed up my source list
[12:35] <rawr> for got somemore letters
[12:36] <|lostbyte|>  * Starting DHCP server:                                                         [fail] 
[12:36] <|lostbyte|> ?
[12:38] <DSlicer> Anybody know of any problems with trying to create xfs partitions during install?
[12:38] <DSlicer> "There was a problem with mkfs.xfs"
[12:40] <omicron> hi there. I cannot get the direct rendering (dri) working on kubuntu 6.06. Xorg.0.log claims that Direct rendering is enabled, but glxinfo tells me: OpenGL vendor string: Mesa GLX Indirect. any hints?
[12:40] <DSlicer> Or should I just stick with ext3 and not worry about it?
[12:42] <zorglu_> omicron: 1. determine what is you graphic card  :)
[12:42] <pete> Anybody?
[12:44] <Zaire> anyone know how you could find and remove a .deb package...and not one available via apt or adept?
[12:44] <lupine_85> dpkg -r <packagename>
[12:45] <steveire> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24142 <<< I get this error message since updating flash. What can I do about this?
[12:45] <omicron> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL 9000]  (rev 01)
[12:45] <echo1> Has anyone here succesfully installed fglrx 8.29.6?
[12:46] <Zaire> thanks lupine85 that worked perfectly
[12:47] <Zaire> vmware workstation broke vmwareplayer and it seems to be working now
[12:48] <zorglu_> wow i actually found out a bug between the interaction of konqueror and amarok
[12:48] <zorglu_> now how to report it :)
[12:49] <MasterEvilAce> !ubotu bug report
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bug report - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:49] <MasterEvilAce> !ubotu bug
[12:49] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[12:49] <Zaire> is there a debian package for vmware workstation, the one I used broke player cause it was a converted rpm
[12:49] <MasterEvilAce> there you go, zorglu_ :)
[12:50] <horacio_> hola, soy kubuntu y me siento muy feliz :)
[12:51] <lupine_85> !es
[12:51] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:51] <lupine_85> assuming that's spanish, which it might not be!
[12:51] <lupine_85> !languages
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about languages - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <theHat> sorry :)
[12:51] <MasterEvilAce> yeah that's spanish
[12:51] <theHat> loll
[12:52] <Zaire> ok is there anyway I could turn a source package into a debian package?
[12:53] <zorglu_> pool: when you click on a playlist via konqueror , is the playlist played ? in amarok ?
[12:53] <|lostbyte|> Zaire, checkinstall
[12:53] <Zaire> ?
[12:53] <l3> hi all... how it's possible that my dvd burner is recognised by the live knoppix and not by the installed one? (i apologize for my rustic english...)
[12:55] <l3> [17179584.916000]  Probing IDE interface ide1...
[12:55] <l3> [17179591.884000]  hdc: no response (status = 0x80), resetting drive
[12:55] <l3> [17179627.108000]  hdc: no response (status = 0x80
[12:55] <theHat> l3: maybe, first you have to know whats module use your dvd burner and then load it :)
[12:56] <zorglu_> l3: this is #kubuntu:) you may get better help on knoppix on their channel :)
[12:56] <zorglu_> l3: but if i were you, i would look/play at the boot option
[12:56] <l3> sorry... i mispelled knoppix for kubuntu... it's a kubuntu installed and live... :)
[12:57] <zorglu_> ok :) so play with the boot option :)
[12:57] <l3> ok
[12:57] <zorglu_> i mean this is the same kernel i think, you may check with 'uname -r' to get the kernel version
[12:57] <zorglu_> and 'cat /proc/cmdline' to get the boot option
[12:58] <sean__> Oh noes my clock just went to 00:00 !
[12:58] <zorglu_> sean__: happy new day :)
[12:58] <Zaire> the file marked with install on it in the main vmware source folder is vmware-install.pl
[12:58] <sean__> Someone e-mail Stephen Hawking
[12:58] <theHat> l3: make lsmod and look up whats the module load knoppix or kubuntu live cd
[12:58] <theHat> then, modprob <module>
[12:59] <Junito> hi
[12:59] <theHat> or look up in dmesg if its recognized
[01:00] <Junito> how can i get that kde remember the windows position. I meant that if you closed the Kaffeine on the right down corner, Kaffeine must to appear in the right down corner in the next execution like in gnome all the apps.
[01:00] <DSlicer> Just out of curiosity, when during the install process should I get the option to add my Windows drive to the boot manager?
[01:00] <l3> in the kubuntu live is recognised, but not in the installed...
[01:00] <l3> l3@darkstar:~$ cat /proc/cmdline
[01:00] <l3> root=/dev/hdd1 ro quiet splash
[01:00] <LeeJunFan> DSlicer: normally it just automatically does it.
[01:01] <DSlicer> LeeJunFan: that would be neat
[01:01] <omicron> i have this radeon 9200 mobility on 6.06 and i cannot get direct rendering working with the radeon driver for x.org. Xorg.0.log reports direct rendering enabled, but glxinfo only shows Mesa indirect rendering...does anyone of you have a hint for me?
[01:02] <LeeJunFan> omicron: what drivers are you using ati or fglrx?
[01:02] <Zaire> is there anyone who can help me with vmware workstation
[01:03] <LeeJunFan> omicron: I mean - the one that comes with xorg or the one that is from ati?
[01:03] <otaku-san> Anybody on here use a podcast feed tool?  I was wondering cuz' I'm trying to install one and I think I need a certain little package installed, and wanted to check if I was right.
[01:03] <LeeJunFan> Zaire: what exactly are you trying to do?
[01:03] <omicron> LeeJunFan: I use the "radeon" driver from xorg..
[01:04] <Zaire> Im trying to install vmware workstation but I can't find a deb for it just source or rpm
[01:04] <omicron> otaku-san: you can use amarok for subscribing to podcasts..
[01:05] <DSlicer> Well, Windows did show up in the list. Unfortunately, the system doesn't seem to be recognizing my keyboard during boot, so I can't select it
[01:05] <LeeJunFan> Zaire: just get the source, untar it, cd into the vmware-distrib and run ./vmware-install.pl
[01:05] <Zaire> do I have to make it +x for that?
[01:05] <LeeJunFan> DSlicer: usb keyboard? might need to change a bios options for usb keyboard on boot.
[01:05] <LeeJunFan> Zaire: it already should be.
[01:05] <DSlicer> LeeJunFan: good call. I'll have to try that
[01:06] <gorus> i just installed a new nvidia driver (from the nvidia.com site) and now it won't startx (it says there's a mismatch between the kernel module and the x11 module); i did remove the old nvidia driver (by aptitude remove...); on my other box, a "sudo bash -c "rmmod nvidia; modprobe nvidia" would work. what is the solution?
[01:06] <otaku-san> omicron: you can?
[01:07] <otaku-san> omicron: I use amarok almost exclusively...anything to do with it I'll use
[01:07] <omicron> otaku-san: yep. just have a look on the "playlist
[01:07] <omicron>  playlist tab. i mean. there is a folder called podcasts..
[01:08] <otaku-san> omicron:........and there it says podcast
[01:08] <otaku-san> omicron: any idea how I can get it to play...I'll check the guide
[01:08] <LeeJunFan> omicron: not sure about the 9200, specifically. Anyone else here have a 9200 with working glx they could pastebin the xorg.conf?
[01:08] <omicron> otaku-san: right click on podcasts: add podcast
[01:09] <l3> gorus: i guess the driver from nvidia are nvidia and the ones from the repository are nv... so you should change it in the xorg.conf...
[01:09] <mauro> my xorg seems to take up 50% of physical memory. what causes this issue
[01:09] <LeeJunFan> I have one on my kids laptop (9200 ATI) but it's not here now :(
[01:09] <otaku-san> omicron: *slaps forehead*  Man this is to simple
[01:10] <otaku-san> I've been trying to get one podcaster to work after another....they all have had one prob or another
[01:10] <linuxkid2> hi everyone
[01:11] <Zaire> ok this is fkn wierd I can cd into the vmware directory it says it doesn exist
[01:11] <omicron> LeeJunFan: i'd even love to get the driver from ati working. but I only get half the screen black and the other half crippled..
[01:11] <|GaiJin|> is it possible to get linux to be able to write to an NTFS Filesystem?? I seem to remember something about a module or something??
[01:11] <Zaire> can't cd into it rather
[01:11] <LeeJunFan> omicron: I think that's for newer 9500+ cards.
[01:12] <omicron> LeeJunFan: Once when I was using slackware, I got it working on the same hardware.. but I cannot remember my settings nor the driver version that I used back then :( I could even play ut2004 with it..
[01:13] <MasterEvilAce> |GaiJin|: yeah, there's some way to do it (can't remember how).. but it's generally advised NOT to use it, as it could potentially corrupt your NTFS files
[01:13] <cpk2> !ntfs
[01:13] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:13] <linuxkid2> Hey, I messed up my X Server with the nVidia Legacy driver.
[01:13] <mauro> does anyone know how to reduce xorg memory usage?
[01:13] <linuxkid2> I did this last time. Will I ever get it right? :/
[01:14] <Zaire> heres the error I get when i try to launch vmware http://pastebin.ca/178072
[01:14] <arcasa> Synaptic isn't booting.. it just hangs. then closes.
[01:15] <elknof1> hi everybody..  hey i'm having some trobles while conecting to the wireless
[01:15] <cpk2> do you guys ever try to tab complete words you dont know how to spell?
[01:15] <elknof1> im using a delll 600m with prowireless 2100
[01:16] <elknof1> troubles*
[01:17] <Zaire> like I said I get the error in this pastbin when I launch vmware workstation http://pastebin.ca/178072
[01:17] <cpk2> just me hmm?
[01:17] <linuxkid2> I can't install the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386 package
[01:17] <linuxkid2> need help.
[01:18] <linuxkid2> hello?
[01:18] <cpk2> linuxkid2: why cant you?
[01:19] <linuxkid2> I don't know. Using aptitude, I can't mark it for installation
[01:19] <sean__> So do old KDE hands use konqueror or firefox?
[01:19] <linuxkid2> it installed the 2.6.15-23 version instead.
[01:19] <cpk2> linuxkid2: if you do sudo apt-get upgrade does it say its being held back?
[01:20] <linuxkid2> no, i'm all up to date.
[01:20] <LeeJunFan> omicron: I should have that xorg.conf in a few seconds.
[01:21] <omicron> LeeJunFan: cool..
[01:21] <linuxkid2> last time I did this, I had to add an extra repo, but I don't remember what.
[01:22] <MasterEvilAce> hmm you shouldn't have to add an extra repo for the restricted modules i don't think
[01:22] <MasterEvilAce> and if you see them in adept.. then i mean theoretically you should be able to select to install
[01:23] <linuxkid2> But I did last time, and the package name didn;t work.
[01:23] <linuxkid2> I've no graphics right now. Iv'e got Irssi and Aptitude.
[01:23] <Zaire> ok the damn vmware install says a previous version is installed already and that it was made by an rpm how do I fix this?
[01:24] <cpk2> he might not have restricted included in the main repo
[01:24] <seanOne> LK2 did you stick deb in the repo line
[01:24] <linuxkid2> what line do I need to change?
[01:25] <cpk2> can you pastebin your sources.list?
[01:25] <linuxkid2> I just uncommented universe and added multiverse, that's all I've done.
[01:25] <linuxkid2> I'll try, but I've no graphics
[01:26] <linuxkid2> how would I copy and paste without a clipboard?
[01:26] <cpk2> or do you have a line that looks like deb http://archivesite/ dapper main restricted
[01:27] <linuxkid2> one minute...
[01:27] <seanOne> yeah, got to have the deb or it goes bang
[01:27] <MasterEvilAce> What do i need in amarok to play the Digitally imported streams? an error says something about missing demux and that the format probably isn't supported
[01:27] <linuxkid2> nope
[01:27] <cpk2> and it wont be dapper if you arent using dapper
[01:27] <linuxkid2> I've got dapper
[01:28] <cpk2> linuxkid2: you might want to redo your sources.list if its wrong
[01:28] <nimnrod> does kubuntu include some kind of theme manager? how and where can i change the way my desktop looks?
[01:28] <cpk2> !easysource
[01:28] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:29] <cpk2> nimnrod: there is all sorts of eyecandy stuff
[01:29] <Knifa> erm
[01:29] <linuxkid2> actually, it's there.
[01:29] <Knifa> does the "Storing language..."
[01:29] <Knifa> bit
[01:29] <Knifa> usually take ages?
[01:29] <linuxkid2> weird.
[01:29] <MasterEvilAce> nimnrod: kde menu -> system settings -> Appearance
[01:30] <nimnrod> but i dont see any button that says "get more themes" or something like that
[01:30] <MasterEvilAce> you're looking to DOWNLOAD more themes?
[01:30] <MasterEvilAce> kde-look.org is a good place
[01:31] <Knifa> okay i think the installation on this computer died. it's stuck at "storing language..."
[01:31] <Knifa> 75%
[01:31] <Knifa> hard drive seems to be going
[01:31] <Knifa> but it's been at it for a while
[01:31] <nimnrod> yes
[01:31] <Knifa> ergh it's making horrible clicking noises.
[01:31] <Knifa> i think i killed it.
[01:32] <linuxkid2> In aptitude, the restriced modules package has a big "A" next to it. What's that meen?
[01:33] <LeeJunFan> omicron: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24148
[01:33] <linuxkid2> In aptitude, the restriced modules package has a big "A" next to it. What's that meen?
[01:33] <Knifa> haha i fixed it.
[01:33] <Knifa> i kicked the side
[01:33] <cpk2> isnt aptitude the gui? thought you only had a terminal
[01:33] <Knifa> and it works :V
[01:34] <Knifa> aptitude is command line too
[01:34] <Raul12> any package cd avaiable for kbuntu
[01:34] <Raul12> ?
[01:34] <cpk2> Knifa: voodoo programing?
[01:34] <Hawkwind> aptitude is CLI too
[01:34] <Knifa> clearly
[01:34] <fildo> hi, i have an external dvd burner, via firewire,  .would i have to mount the drive or would it autodetect ?
[01:34] <linuxkid2> aptitude is curses, GUI in CLI
[01:34] <linuxkid2> like Midnight Commander and Irrsi
[01:35] <Raul12> any package cd avaiable for kbuntu m?
[01:35] <Hawkwind> Raul12: Not understanding what you are wanting
[01:35] <Raul12> any package cd avaiable for kbuntu ?
[01:35] <cpk2> Raul12: package cd? you want a free cd?
[01:35] <zorglu_> Knifa: :) maybe a good time to change your disk and reinstall after that :)
[01:35] <Hawkwind> Raul12: What is a package CD and please stop repeating yourself
[01:35] <Raul12> yea
[01:35] <Knifa> nah it's a spare computer
[01:35] <cpk2> you can get a free cd delivered to you if thats what you want
[01:35] <Knifa> i'll just destroy it
[01:35] <Knifa> with fire.
[01:35] <Knifa> like dell laptops.
[01:35] <Raul12> software package cds
[01:36] <Hawkwind> !shipit
[01:36] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org
[01:36] <omicron> LeeJunFan: thx for the config.. unfortunately mine looks exact the same..
[01:36] <Hawkwind> Raul12: ^^^^^^^^^^
[01:36] <Raul12> no i want software packages not the .iso
[01:36] <linuxkid2> I can't find anything in the Aptitude docs about a big A
[01:36] <LeeJunFan> omicron: hrm, must be a library problem. Have you attempted to install any other drivers?
[01:37] <linuxkid2> You can buy third-party repository CD's I think.
[01:37] <Knifa> erg
[01:37] <Admiral_Chicago> linuxkid2, what?
[01:37] <Knifa> now it's stuck at "installing kernel - retreiving and installing linux-386"
[01:37] <Admiral_Chicago> as in what does that mean
[01:37] <omicron> LeeJunFan: i tried to install fglrx from adept.. but removed these packages because it did not work.
[01:37] <LeeJunFan> omicron: and you have Driver                "ati" not Driver "radeon"?
[01:37] <Raul12> no way to get main achive sofware cd from ubuntu archive ?
[01:38] <linuxkid2> Admiral_Chicago: There's a big A next to the linux-restricted-modules package I need for my video card.
[01:38] <linuxkid2> Admiral_Chicago: in Aptitude
[01:38] <Hawkwind> A = available ?
[01:38] <LeeJunFan> omicron: okay, I had that problem before and it had problems loading the proper lib. I imagine you've rebooted since then so the fglrx kernel module isn't loaded from the ati drivers?
[01:38] <omicron> LeeJunFan: at the moment I have "ati" yes.. i had "radeon" as well, but there was no difference..
[01:38] <Hawkwind> As in available for download/install/update maybe
[01:38] <linuxkid2> Maybe, one sec..
[01:38] <linuxkid2> no
[01:39] <omicron> LeeJunFan: jep i have rebooted since then..
[01:39] <linuxkid2> and there's a big A next to the linux-kernel package. Maybe it meens Active.
[01:39] <Hawkwind> I only use apt-get from CLI since it just works and a lot less confusing
[01:39] <Knifa> does the kubuntu installer download and compile the kernel
[01:39] <Knifa> or some such
[01:39] <LeeJunFan> omicron: try 'export LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose MESA_DEBUG=verbose' then run glxinfo
[01:39] <Knifa> because it's taking ages
[01:40] <linuxkid2> I like the semi-grapchics that Aptitude has, for browsing packages mostly. I use Aptitude like apt-get a lot.
[01:40] <cpk2> linuxkid2: aptitude search is just as good
[01:40] <Mark__> can someone please please help me
[01:40] <Hawkwind> apt-cache search works wonders for searching packages for me personally.  But that's because I'm anti GUI package managers
[01:40] <Hawkwind> Mark__: With ?
[01:40] <Mark__> my linux keeps crashing at random
[01:41] <LeeJunFan> omicron: at the top of all the crap it gives should be a line like libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib/dri....
[01:41] <Mark__> i'm using the 686-smp kernel
[01:41] <one_> i need 2 know the best video player with the most codecs, a good flash player 4 mozilla, and a good p2p
[01:41] <Mark__> im also using the nvidia-glx drivers
[01:41] <Coffeeman1> how do I tell what base my wifi card is? ie. Prism?
[01:41] <warpzone> heya, was anything GTK-related updated in the last few days? I can't remember and I don't know how to check
[01:41] <Mark__> xine, apollon, flashplugin-nonfree
[01:41] <Mark__> one_
[01:41] <one_> thx mark!
[01:42] <linuxkid2> I'm gonna reboot to see what that doess. Cya L8-er
[01:42] <one_> xine doesn't want to play avi, tho
[01:42] <Raul12> installing  server from cd will it give all desktop installtion funcation+server ?
[01:42] <omicron> LeeJunFan: hmm interesting output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24149
[01:42] <Mark__> you needa enable all of your repos and install the extracodecs package
[01:43] <echo1> Where can I find a guide on updating to the new kernel?
[01:43] <Raul12> which codecs packes
[01:43] <one_> type .etracodecs. ?
[01:43] <Mark__> any idea what's causing the instability hawkwind?
[01:43] <Hawkwind> echo1: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will update to the new kernel if there is one
[01:43] <Raul12> i need to convert desktop to server any help ?
[01:44] <Mark__> one_: add multiverse to every repository that has universe on it\
[01:44] <Hawkwind> Mark__: Nope.  I use an SMP kernel and nvidia drivers too.  But I also build my kernel from kernel.org as I'm already using the 2.6.18 kernel released today
[01:44] <LeeJunFan> omicron: yeah, mine is loading radeon_dri.so
[01:44] <warpzone> Mark__: what type of instability? From something in the last few days, all ofmy GTK-based apps reandomly lock and and eventually freeze the comp
[01:44] <one_> i think i did, but i'll look again
[01:44] <one_> apallon is a p2p?
[01:44] <echo1> what is hte command to check my current kernel?
[01:45] <Mark__> k3b and firefox seems to freeze it alot\
[01:45] <Mark__> yes one_
[01:45] <warpzone> Mark__: whew ok I'm not alone
[01:45] <Knifa> installation failed
[01:45] <Knifa> ;_;
[01:45] <Knifa> reason: my hard drive blew up.
[01:45] <Mark__> you gotta be kidding me warpzone
[01:45] <Mark__>  an update is doin this?
[01:46] <one_> i have the newest kubuntu, so write in multiverse to each repo?
[01:46] <Mark__> only each repo that has universe on it already
[01:46] <warpzone> Mark__: it has to be, I havent done any installs or any system admin, but firefox is nigh unusable now, and it takes other GTK apps with it when it goes
[01:46] <Raul12> i need to convert desktop to server any help ?
[01:46] <linuxkid2> hmph. Still no X.
[01:47] <Mark__> then go into adept and search extra codecs
[01:47] <dungkal> just testing.
[01:47] <Mark__> warpzone: mine freezes the entire computer, and i have to hold the power button
[01:47] <Mark__> and booting linux 20 times a day becomes tiresome quickly
[01:47] <deoptima> what about the radeon xpress 200m?
[01:48] <deoptima> woops wrong chan
[01:48] <warpzone> Mark__: agreed, I'm going to check the forums, see if this problem is more widespread and if a solution has been found. Maybe the new kernel?
[01:48] <Hawkwind> Mark__: Have you tried booting to an older kernel ?
[01:48] <Mark__> if only i knew how to build kernels
[01:49] <Hawkwind> Mark__: Assuming you've updated to the latest kernel, your old kernels are still installed
[01:49] <Mark__> and there is only one smp enable kernel in the repo list
[01:49] <Hawkwind> Mark__: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=611.0
[01:49] <one_> mark: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release: Unable to find expected entry  multiiverse/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)--could not load this index?
[01:49] <dungkal> linuxkid2: sorry, i just logged in. did you encounter the 'no-X' problem right after you installed Kubuntu?
[01:49] <Mark__> unless u want me to downgrade to 2.4
[01:49] <Hawkwind> Mark__: Follow that how-to on my forums.  Quick and easy way to build a kernel
[01:49] <zorglu_> Mark__: try without smp
[01:49] <doppelganger_> hey guys, real quick, whats the command to see what all hardware you have installed?
[01:49] <linuxkid2> dungkal: No, NVidia driver.
[01:49] <Hawkwind> doppelganger_: lshw
[01:50] <doppelganger_> thanks hawk  =)0
[01:50] <Mark__> doesnt w/o smp make my dual core useless?
[01:50] <warpzone> Mark__: thread with the problem here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193283&highlight=firefox+freezes+update
[01:50] <linuxkid2> Anyone know how to enable SSL in Links so that I can see the Ubuntu Help stuff.
[01:50] <LeeJunFan> omicron: something is still there from your fglrx attempt, client glx vendor string: ATI should read SGI
[01:50] <warpzone> Mark__: checking it out now
[01:50] <Hawkwind> Mark__: Yes, but it could be the way the Ubuntu kernel is built that is causing you problems.  You might need to build your own and add a patch or something
[01:51] <zorglu_> linuxkid2: what is the url you wanna reach
[01:51] <Raul12> i need to convert desktop to server any help ? pls
[01:51] <zorglu_> Mark__: if it works ok without smp, you know the issue is related to smp
[01:51] <LeeJunFan> omicron: ls -l /usr/lib/libGL.so
[01:51] <one_> the following problems have occured:
[01:51] <dungkal> linuxkid2: did you try to install xserver-xorg-video-nv, nvidia-glx, nvidia-kernel-common, and nvidia-settings?
[01:51] <one_> W: Duplicate sources.list entry cdrom://Kubuntu 6.06.1 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060807.1) dapper/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Kubuntu%206.06.1%20%5fDapper%20Drake%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20060807.1)_dists_dapper_main_binary-i386_Packages)
[01:51] <one_> W: Duplicate sources.list entry cdrom://Kubuntu 6.06.1 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060807.1) dapper/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Kubuntu%206.06.1%20%5fDapper%20Drake%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20060807.1)_dists_dapper_restricted_binary-i386_Packages)
[01:52] <Mark__> ill load up the non smp i686 kernel and see what happens
[01:52] <Mark__> one sec
[01:52] <zorglu_> Mark__: then you can see how to fix it, your first step is find the cause of the issue, only then you try to fix :
[01:52] <linuxkid2> zorglu_ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:52] <Hawkwind> one_: Please don't paste all that here
[01:52] <Hawkwind> !paste
[01:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:52] <LeeJunFan> omicron_: you get my last about your GLX client being ATI - should be SGI?
[01:52] <one_> sorry guys
[01:52] <Hawkwind> one_: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list  and remove one of the lines that has the cdrom entry, save the file and update again
[01:52] <zorglu_> linuxkid2: elinks https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia <- works ok from here
[01:52] <Raul12> plz any 1 help how to convert my desktop to server ?
[01:52] <omicron_> LeeJunFan: no, sorry did not get it..
[01:52] <linuxkid2> ok, I'll try that.
[01:53] <Hawkwind> Raul12: Please stop repeating.  Have some patience and when someone can help you they will
[01:53] <LeeJunFan> omicron: looks like some libs probably /usr/lib/libGL.so.* laying around are still from the fglrx install.
[01:54] <Raul12> hey hackwind i didnt want to do it on purpose
[01:55] <LeeJunFan> Raul12: there's not much distinction between server / desktop. It's just a matter of a server having the services you need on it to serve.
[01:55] <zorglu_> LeeJunFan: there is a different kernel no ?
[01:55] <LeeJunFan> Raul12: what precisely do you plan on serving?
[01:55] <mark_> back
[01:55] <Raul12> but how do i install the services for server ?
[01:56] <LeeJunFan> Raul12: first you need to know what services to install. There is no magic "server" list of services.
[01:56] <Raul12> i didnt find any samba or anythin on the networking achieve in kbuntu
[01:56] <omicron_> LeeJunFan: is there an easy way to reinstall xserver-xorg-driver-ati ? so I might get a fresh libGL
[01:56] <mark_> how would i record and submit a bug report for the kernel problem?
[01:56] <LeeJunFan> Raul12: it's there, apt-get install samba
[01:57] <one_> hawkwind__: no write access
[01:57] <Hawkwind> !bugs
[01:57] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[01:57] <Hawkwind> !bug
[01:57] <Hawkwind> !bug
[01:57] <jmichaelx> has anyone else had a problem with the updated flash-plugin that was in the updates today?
[01:57] <Hawkwind> one_: If you use the command:  kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list  that will open the file with kwrite as root so you can edit it
[01:58] <LeeJunFan> omicron: dpkg -r --force-nodeps [package name] 
[01:58] <Hawkwind> jmichaelx: Known issue
[01:58] <LeeJunFan> omicron: then apt-get install it again.
[01:58] <one_> thx
[01:58] <Hawkwind> jmichaelx: There will hopefully be an update tomorrow or later tonight
[01:58] <jmichaelx> Hawkwind: ty for the info, just wondered
[01:58] <Hawkwind> jmichaelx: No problem :)
[01:59] <mark_> ok booting back into normal 686 kernel and seeing if it still freezes
[01:59] <Raul12> LeeJunFan @ if i install server setup will i get server services + normal desktop install services ?
[02:00] <LeeJunFan> Raul12: you just need to pick and install the services/packages you want and install them. ie, apache, php, mysql, ssh-server, vsftpd, postfix, etc...
[02:01] <zorglu_> mark_, the process to identify what cause the issue, is to remove stuff one by one until it works. then you reenable them etc... to get the culprit :)
[02:01] <zorglu_> mark_, and dont forget to check the hardware, like memtest86 at boot
[02:01] <Raul12> k thxs lee
[02:02] <warpzone> man, the thread on dapper freezes in now 34 pages long and it was only made 4 days ago
[02:02] <Hawkwind> zorglu_: Any success on the repo issue we were speaking of the other night in the devel channel ?
[02:03] <mark__> ok hawkwind, im going to try to build my own kernel
[02:03] <mark__> which one should i download
[02:03] <zorglu_> Hawkwind: nope i didnt get much echo there, i got some numbers tho, !repo is the 3rd most used command of ubotu
[02:03] <A|i3N> Hey guys. Got a question. Have a dell laptop, it's got basically a broadcom 1470 wireless adapter. Does anybody know how to get this thing to work in kubuntu? I found a utility for extracting the firmware but i doubt that'll do me much good
[02:03] <mark__> you need the windows driver
[02:03] <zorglu_> Hawkwind: i figured i could have more echo with hard numbers
[02:03] <A|i3N> i was gonna use ndiswrapper i guess but what package do I look for to install it?
[02:03] <mark__> the ndiswrapper wiki will help you much
[02:03] <Hawkwind> mark__: I'm running the newest, 2.6.18 on Dapper
[02:03] <one_> after i changed all universe 2 multiverse, one is not recognized
[02:04] <mark__> hawkwind, is the ubuntu nvidia packages compatible with that or will i need to download the nvidia drivers from the site
[02:04] <mark__> ?
[02:04] <zorglu_> ok goodnight all :)
[02:04] <LeeJunFan> hehe, doing updates from my other laptop using my local repository soaked up my upstream BW on the wifi network - had to remember how to setup htb and sfq by hand to smooth it out.
[02:05] <A|i3N> mark_ what package do I look for to install ndiswrapper?
[02:05] <A|i3N> all i'm finding is the source and a front end.
[02:05] <mark__> ndiswrapper is already installed
[02:05] <Hawkwind> mark__: I'm using the one from the site as I always have for years
[02:05] <A|i3N> oh. i tried to run it an it didn't find it.
[02:06] <mark__> you should download the latest verion and build it from source then
[02:06] <A|i3N> agh.. building... i'm new to linux man! lol i can figure it out though
[02:06] <mark__> one sec i got a guide for building it
[02:06] <A|i3N> heeh ok
[02:07] <mark__> hmm im gonna need to register
[02:07] <mark__> i forget how to
[02:08] <A|i3N> i think the wiki will tell me it looks like
[02:09] <mark__> hawkwind, if i build the kernel, it will support my dual core out of the box right?
[02:10] <mark__> and also, is it quite as fast as the ubuntu kernel?
[02:10] <Hawkwind> mark__: It should as I have an SMP box myself, a P4 3.2GHz HT, not dual core but it sees both of my CPU's
[02:10] <mark__> dual processor?
[02:10] <mark__> cool
[02:12] <hw_> viva las vegas x)~
[02:12] <LeeJunFan> the server I setup for our local library is dual core dual opteron 64 bit :p
[02:12] <LeeJunFan> wish it was mine.
[02:13] <mark__> ive got a mere 1.6 dual core intel
[02:13] <mark__> but i love it to death already
[02:13] <mark__> omg this guide wants me to rm -rf something 0,0
[02:13] <LeeJunFan> That's plenty of power, I started linux when the fastest processor on the market was 200mhz I think. Try compiling a kernel or kde with that!
[02:14] <mark__> im trying this kernel compiling guide right now
[02:14] <LeeJunFan> And back then you did have to compile your kernel to get stuff to work. hehe
[02:14] <mark__> im thinking i wont be talking to you guys again for another couple of hours
[02:16] <omicron> LeeJunFan: I did apt-get install --reinstall for libgl1-mesa and libgl1-mesa-dri .. but i am still sticking with the client glx from ATI ..
[02:16] <echo1> How do I change a kernel module to reflect a new driver (fglrx)
[02:17] <LeeJunFan> omicron: just a min.
[02:17] <echo1> omicron: are you running the new fglrx drivers?
[02:17] <echo1> 8.29.6?
[02:18] <omicron> echo1: no i cannot get the fglrx drivers working on my machine.. i just get a crippled desktop.. so I am trying to get dri with the free radeon drivers from xorg
[02:18] <echo1> i c
[02:19] <A|i3N> mark_ I'm trying to run make and it's not working? to compile this
[02:19] <mad_man> when i minimize the browser and other programs i lose them. they do not drop down to the panel. how do i get the program to drop down to the panel for easy mazimizing ?
[02:19] <A|i3N> says to run 'make distclean' and 'make' but it's not running.
[02:20] <mark__> have you installed all the dev tools you needed?
[02:20] <LeeJunFan> omicron: I think reinstall only replaces missing files not overwrites existing ones. At least if I recall correctly that's what happened with me when I had this problem.
[02:20] <mark__> leejunfan, i need some help with this
[02:20] <warpzone> hey guys, is there a way to revert back to a previous version of Xorg? I think the new update is doing me in
[02:20] <mark__> do i have any kernel patches to apply?
[02:20] <jordan_u> how do I turn off ipv6 in konqueror?
[02:20] <A|i3N> I .. um.. don't know lol this is a newer installation - what packages do i need?
[02:21] <LeeJunFan> mark__: why are you building a kernel?
[02:21] <A|i3N> forgot i might actually need the compiler.. lol
[02:21] <Hawkwind> mark__: If you use your current .config file then no
[02:21] <Hawkwind> mark__: That's what I have always done and it works perfectly
[02:21] <mark__> sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-686 module-assistant build-essential fakeroot dh-make debconf libstdc+
[02:21] <mark__> +5 linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:21] <mark__> 7. reboot
[02:22] <Hawkwind> LeeJunFan: He's having crashing issues so he's trying to see if it's possibly something within Ubuntu's kernel causing issues with his dual core
[02:22] <mark__> type all that in minus the 7.reboot part into your konsole
[02:22] <A|i3N> good got. thank you. lol
[02:22] <A|i3N> er good god.
[02:22] <LeeJunFan> Hawkwind: ah, okay.
[02:22] <LeeJunFan> Hawkwind: tried disabling framebuffer?
[02:22] <mark__> and it should look like sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-686 module-assistant build-essential fakeroot dh-make debconf libstdc++5 linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:22] <jordan_u> how do I turn off ipv6 in konqueror?
[02:23] <LeeJunFan> !ipv6
[02:23] <Hawkwind> LeeJunFan: I don't think he did and I didn't think about it.  He did say it doesn't seem to freeze on the non SMP kernel, but he needs the SMP kernel of course unfortunately
[02:23] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[02:24] <A|i3N> i got it. hehe. now i need my cd.
[02:25] <LeeJunFan> !framebuffer
[02:25] <ubotu> If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[02:25] <omicron> LeeJunFan: moving the old libGL.so* to trash and then apt-get --reinstall did the trick.. direct rendering is on.. =) thx for your help..!
[02:25] <jordan_u> LeeJunFan: ironically, because of my ipv6 problems that page JUST finished loading :)
[02:25] <LeeJunFan> omicron: nice, you're welcome.
[02:26] <mark__> LeeJunFan, ill do both
[02:26] <mark__> im excited about the new kernel
[02:27] <LeeJunFan> mark__: it's a good thing to learn to build your own either way - you learn a lot more about what a kernel does.
[02:27] <mark__> and i inch my way ever closer to gentoo linux
[02:27] <Homer> can WINE run on AMD64?
[02:27] <mark__> no
[02:28] <mark__> or yes
[02:28] <LeeJunFan> Homer: it can, but it takes some hoop jumping.
[02:29] <LeeJunFan> Homer: codeweavers crossover office has statically compiled 32 bit libs so it work in a 64 bit environment, for 64 bit wine you'll want to check out a chroot environment.
[02:29] <LeeJunFan> !chroot
[02:29] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[02:32] <mark__> gah
[02:32] <mark__> i forgot to boot into i386 kernel
[02:32] <mark__> my comp froze again ; ;
[02:32] <mark__> !framebuffer
[02:32] <ubotu> If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[02:33] <LeeJunFan> frambuffer is just a long shot, but I've had all kinds of odd issues not using framebuffer has solved.
[02:33] <mark__> anyone know why the flashplugin-nonfree will not install for me?
[02:33] <LeeJunFan> mark__: you get an error?
[02:33] <mark__> yes
[02:33] <mark__> even tho i accept the liscence
[02:34] <LeeJunFan> mark__: hrm, not sure. I install mine the old fashioned way. I'm old school :) I download the tar.gz from adobe and just copy the xpt and so file to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/.
[02:35] <mark__> im gonna start doing that
[02:35] <mark__> because this is annoying
[02:35] <mark__> ive remove --purged it and still the same error
[02:35] <mark__> btw, when i finish compiling my new kernel, will i have to reinstall my ndis drivers?
[02:36] <elknof1> hey how do i add a source to my sources.list, its a dir in my hd
[02:36] <LeeJunFan> mark__: yes.
[02:36] <mark__> hmm
[02:36] <mark__> ill ask how to make it load every time later
[02:36] <rawr> thank you
[02:36] <rawr> ok
[02:37] <LeeJunFan> mark__:  each kernel version has modules in /lib/modules/[version #] , so your new kernel won't find the ndis modules made for your other kernel.
[02:37] <rawr> i think i can tell you that
[02:37] <rawr> later
[02:37] <mark__> ill have to compile a new one?
[02:38] <LeeJunFan> mark__: I think so. I've never used ndiswrapper.
[02:38] <mark__> ok, no problem
[02:39] <LeeJunFan> mark__: so make sure you have the source downloaded before you boot into your new kernel because you probably won't have networking to dl it later.
[02:39] <mark__> yeah, ive got the latest source d/led already
[02:39] <LeeJunFan> mark__: you are compiling ubuntu's source tree though aren't you? or are you using a vanilla kernel from kernel.org?
[02:40] <mark__> vanilla
[02:40] <inteliwasp> how can i get the channel list from xchat that wont scrol by in the server tab?
[02:40] <Hawkwind> inteliwasp: Window -> Channel List
[02:40] <inteliwasp> ie to a new window or file
[02:41] <inteliwasp> ok now i feel like an idiot :P
[02:41] <elknof1> hey how do i add a source to my sources.list, its a dir in my hd
[02:41] <mark__> agh, what processor family would mine be?
[02:41] <LeeJunFan> elknof1: man sources.list
[02:42] <LeeJunFan> elknof1: basically instead of deb http:// you want deb file://
[02:42] <mark__> kinfocenter lists it at 6
[02:42] <mark__> so basically the 6th kernel option or pentium-pro?
[02:42] <elknof1> LeeJunFan, the thing is that is not a file, is a whole directory...  so,,,  would it be the same?
[02:43] <mark__> yes elk
[02:44] <elknof1> LeeJunFan, ie would it be right    deb file://home/harry/Deskyop/paketes/     ??
[02:44] <elknof1> Desktop*
[02:46] <LeeJunFan> elknof1: yeah.
[02:46] <LeeJunFan> elknof1: for instance mine is:
[02:46] <LeeJunFan> deb file:///media/Seagate120/junfan/ubuntu-i386 dapper main universe multiverse restricted
[02:47] <elknof1> it says that it is a malformed line...
[02:47] <elknof1> LeeJunFan,  it says that it is a malformed line...
[02:48] <LeeJunFan> elknof1: put one more / after file:///
[02:49] <LeeJunFan> elknof1: I don't think that should matter though for that.
[02:49] <elknof1> LeeJunFan, ok the directory is in hda1, direction: /home/harry/Desktop/paketes/     all packages are stored there...
[02:49] <elknof1> LeeJunFan, ok ok  let me try
[02:49] <elknof1> LeeJunFanthanks
[02:49] <LeeJunFan> elknof1: did that do it?
[02:50] <mark__> leejunfan
[02:50] <elknof1> LeeJunFan, noup
[02:50] <LeeJunFan> elknof1: what's the whole line you have?
[02:50] <LeeJunFan> yeah mark__
[02:50] <mark__> do you know where i would find out what family i should choose for my processor while building the kernel?
[02:50] <elknof1> deb file///home/harry/Desktop/paketes/
[02:51] <elknof1> LeeJunFan, deb file///home/harry/Desktop/paketes/
[02:51] <william_> I'm trying to configure my wireless lan on a emachine laptop.  Can someone help me
[02:51] <LeeJunFan> elknof1: deb file:///home/harry/Desktop/pakates dapper main
[02:51] <LeeJunFan> elknof1: if it's setup as a proper repository.
[02:51] <LeeJunFan> elknof1: a repository is more than just a directory with packages in it.
[02:52] <LeeJunFan> mark__: what kind of processor do you have?
[02:53] <mark__> intel core duo
[02:53] <flavioribeiro> hi all.. anyone knows how can i enter in kde interface with root login?
[02:53] <mark__> 566mhz fsb i believe
[02:53] <MasterEvilAce> flavioribeiro:  startx should work
[02:53] <LeeJunFan> mark__: should be P4
[02:53] <mark__> ok thanks
[02:53] <elknof1> LeeJunFan, thanks a lot, now it worked
[02:53] <flavioribeiro> hm ill try
[02:53] <tchung> Excuse me, can anyone tell me which Firefox plug-in flash player is the best?
[02:54] <MasterEvilAce> tchung: mozilla-flashplugin (i think it is) is what i installed, and it seems to work for me
[02:54] <LeeJunFan> elknof1: tchung the nonfree one
[02:54] <LeeJunFan> oops
[02:54] <LeeJunFan> tchung: then nonfree one.
[02:54] <william_> can someone help with set up my wireless on a mobile AMD Athlon 64 processor 3200+
[02:55] <thompa> tchung: there is no flash8 but !flash
[02:55] <thompa> !flash
[02:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:55] <Hawkwind> No new flash for Linux until after the first of the year when we get flash 9
[02:55] <Homer> hey
[02:56] <thompa> i would do everything on that first link anyway
[02:56] <Homer> yeah seriously f**k adobe
[02:56] <Homer> anyway
[02:56] <LeeJunFan> Homer: seconded
[02:56] <Homer> ia32-libs = allows to run 32-bit applications in AMD64?
[02:56] <LeeJunFan> Homer: no, it's needed to run 32 bit applications.
[02:56] <thompa> what lame sites use flash anyway
[02:57] <thompa> for kids maybe
[02:57] <LeeJunFan> Homer: but it doesn't provide 32 bit versions of all the libs an app might need.
[02:57] <Homer> ok
[02:57] <Homer> well
[02:57] <Homer> I wanna get WINE working
[02:57] <Homer> on amd64
[02:57] <Homer> should I try? :P is it possible?
[02:57] <LeeJunFan> Homer: setup a chroot
[02:57] <LeeJunFan> !chroot
[02:57] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[02:57] <Homer> it won't work that way
[02:57] <LeeJunFan> it's not too hard and it works fine.
[02:57] <thompa> i had xp, and just got rid of it. Im all linux now
[02:57] <LeeJunFan> Homer: it won't?
[02:57] <tchung> thanks guys
[02:57] <Homer> apperently
[02:58] <Homer> it least not with hardware acceleration
[02:58] <Homer> I think
[02:58] <linuxkid2> nvidia-glx-config errors here. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24152
[02:58] <Homer> I need it for a video game
[02:58] <linuxkid2> I need some help.
[02:58] <linuxkid2> That took forever pasting without X
[02:58] <thompa> the other pc has edubuntu, the kid wants flash for some sites, nagging at me
[02:58] <LeeJunFan> Homer: ah, hrm. Personally this is why I'm sticking with 32 bit OS for now. 64 bit doesn't really provide much improvement anyway.
[02:59] <thompa> ive been running both 64 and 32
[02:59] <thompa> i meant i386
[03:00] <linuxkid2> I've never used anything but PowerPC and Pentium32
[03:00] <Homer> it doesnt? my linux is faasst :D
[03:00] <Homer> maybe it's in my mind or something
[03:00] <Homer> but it stuff seems to run much faster then on Windows
[03:00] <thompa> i think you should try the amd version when beta comes out maybe
[03:01] <linuxkid2> anyone looking at the pastebin?
[03:01] <Homer> I might just make a windows partititon for games or something
[03:01] <thompa> i had some boot problems on 64, but now . so many updates, seems to be booting
[03:02] <Homer> it works fine for me
[03:02] <thompa> i think its also the hp bios
[03:02] <Homer> and plenty of 64-bit packages
[03:02] <linuxkid2> nvidia-glx-config errors here. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24152
[03:02] <thompa> i formated the sata drive, now its all linux
[03:02] <Homer> 18416 to be exact :p
[03:03] <linuxkid2> What's up with IDE, ATA, SATA and SCSI? What are they?
[03:03] <thompa> the usb devices work better in ubuntu so far
[03:03] <thompa> with the HP media os it wont boot if you have any printer other than an hp plugged in
[03:03] <Homer> linuxkid2: high speed device interfaces
[03:04] <linuxkid2> k
[03:04] <linuxkid2> which is better?
[03:04] <Homer> SATA
[03:04] <Homer> and SCSI
[03:04] <Homer> fastest
[03:04] <Homer> well ATA isn't really one
[03:04] <Homer> I think ATA would be like a protocol
[03:05] <LeeJunFan> I think SATA has faster transfer speeds, but generally the scsi HD's are higher quality and therefore have higher real use throughput.
[03:05] <Homer> yes
[03:05] <thompa> im running a sata with a disconnected scsi, on amd64 duo core.
[03:05] <linuxkid2> ok
[03:05] <Homer> scsi is used in many servers
[03:05] <linuxkid2> My old box only has IDE.
[03:05] <Homer> it's very fast interface
[03:05] <thompa> also there is an extra nvidia and onboard 2 nvidia devices
[03:05] <Homer> most only have parallel IDE
[03:05] <Homer> some now have serial IDE = SATA
[03:05] <LeeJunFan> yeah, 15,000 RPM doesn't hurt scsi any.
[03:06] <linuxkid2> Anyone looking at this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24152 ? I need some help.
[03:06] <MasterEvilAce> linuxkid2: yeah, it JUST loaded for me (it was trying for 2 minutes )
[03:06] <MasterEvilAce> have you tried modifying your xorg.conf manually?
[03:07] <thompa> sata is faster over here
[03:07] <linuxkid2> Yes, I replaced the nv with nvidia in the Display section
[03:07] <Homer> i think sata might be faster
[03:07] <thompa> there is a different noise levels between these two, this one sounds sometimes louder
[03:07] <MasterEvilAce> linuxkid2: and it errors when you start to startx, i imagine? what error do you get
[03:07] <Homer> they both insanely fast
[03:07] <Homer> sata is 150 MB / sec
[03:08] <linuxkid2> one minute...
[03:08] <Homer> which is like gigbit ethernet
[03:08] <linuxkid2> MasterEvilAce: says "No Screens Found"
[03:08] <linuxkid2> Fatal errop 104
[03:09] <linuxkid2> *error
[03:09] <linuxkid2> error parsing the config file
[03:09] <linuxkid2> oops...
[03:09] <MasterEvilAce> linuxkid2: okay, do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   and follow through it (it's not too difficult). it will ask options , generally you can just hit ENTER through most of them. it will re-generate your xorg.conf, and generally it fixes problem
[03:10] <linuxkid2> ok. I forgot the command for that.
[03:10] <thompa> 2.6.17-8-generic
[03:11] <thompa> thats working real well anyway
[03:11] <linuxkid2> package not found type error.
[03:11] <linuxkid2> xserver-xorg must not be it.
[03:11] <thompa> linuxkidtwo: did you do nvidia-glx?
[03:12] <MasterEvilAce> it is.. maybe you need to install it?
[03:12] <LeeJunFan> MasterEvilAce: or dpkg-reconfigure -p critical xserver-xorg      --- will probably ask no questions.
[03:12] <soulrider> !mp4
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <linuxkid2> thompa: nvidia-glx-legacy. it's a RIVA TNT2. It said "xserxer-xorg is not install" mispelling. :$
[03:13] <MasterEvilAce> xserver-xorg
[03:13] <thompa> i know that card
[03:13] <linuxkid2> there it goes
[03:14] <thompa> its old card
[03:15] <linuxkid2> should I use kernel framebuffer stuff?
[03:15] <MasterEvilAce> i chose yes
[03:15] <thompa> does it work right now?
[03:15] <linuxkid2> I'm running the config script
[03:15] <thompa> change driver in xorg.conf file?
[03:16] <MasterEvilAce> he had the "no screens found" and changing the driver from nv -> nvidia did not work, so i told him to do the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, which has always fixed that for me
[03:17] <MasterEvilAce> i break the xorg a lot :-/
[03:18] <linuxkid2> Still working on it. thanks in advance
[03:19] <Zaire> anyone know how to install flashplayer 8?
[03:19] <Zaire> like is there an apt source for it rather then the source tarball?
[03:21] <Zaire> -_-
[03:21] <linuxkid2> success!!!!
[03:21] <Hawkwind> Zaire: No such thing for Linux
[03:21] <Zaire> yea actually there is
[03:22] <Hawkwind> Zaire: Flash 7 is the highest for Linux.  We won't get a new flash until flash 9 is released for Linux after the first of the year
[03:22] <Hawkwind> Zaire: No, actually there isn't
[03:22] <linuxkid2> Flash is propriety software owned by Adobe Systems. no source there.
[03:22] <MasterEvilAce> linuxkid2: congrats! enjoy your gui
[03:22] <Zaire> I have the source tarball from adobe and either way how do I install it
[03:22] <Hawkwind> Zaire: You can't.  It won't work
[03:22] <Zaire> then how do I install 7
[03:22] <linuxkid2> MasterEvilAce: Thanks. But I find myself using Terminals more and more.
[03:22] <linuxkid2> Like any good linux user.
[03:23] <Hawkwind> !flash
[03:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:23] <soulrider> is there a way to remove an old kernel i dont want anymore?
[03:23] <MasterEvilAce> linuxkid2: just open up a bunch of Konsoles and call it a day :)
[03:23] <Hawkwind> soulrider: You can use adept, apt-get remove
[03:23] <MasterEvilAce> linuxkid2: that way you get a fancy clock in the corner that shows you the time
[03:23] <soulrider> :O Hawkwind
[03:23] <soulrider> i didnt know it as that easy
[03:23] <linuxkid2> That's the best bit about Konsole is the tabbed windows and stuff.
[03:23] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Though I strongly suggest always having atleast 2 kernels installed
[03:24] <Hawkwind> soulrider: That way if your normal kernel messes up or something, you can always reboot to the other one and see if things are working there
[03:24] <linuxkid2> just curios, is there a good Pac-Man clone for Linux?
[03:24] <Hawkwind> linuxkid2: sudo apt-get install pacman
[03:24] <linuxkid2> cool.
[03:25] <linuxkid2> thanks everyone. bye. :-)
[03:25] <Hawkwind> linuxkid2: apt-cache search <your-search-term-here>
[03:25] <MasterEvilAce> holy cow there's a pacman? That's getting installed.
[03:25] <Hawkwind> It's not that good IMO
[03:26] <soulrider> yea Hawkwind, i got 3 now, so i wanna remove the oldest one
[03:26] <MasterEvilAce> as long as it's a banana that engulfs harmful little floaty thingies, it's good enough
[03:26] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Ah ok.  I usually keep 3 - 4 installed but then at times I do remove all but 2
[03:26] <Hawkwind> I have 2 installed now as I'm now running todays release of 2.6.18 :)
[03:27] <MasterEvilAce> Does anyone else use Edgy + the Dapper theme? They made progress bars purple. Looks pretty awesome (not overdoing the purple like in the new purple theme)
[03:27] <soulrider> :O cool
[03:28] <MasterEvilAce> hey, is there a GNOME color theme for KDE? So I can use that orange that gnome uses?
[03:28] <Hawkwind> MasterEvilAce: Look on kde-look.org
[03:29] <Zaire> well thats great the package I need to stream through firefox is somehow broken and won't install
[03:30] <Hawkwind> MasterEvilAce: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=44730
[03:30] <Hawkwind> MasterEvilAce: I think that's an icon theme possibly  but something similar
[03:30] <satempler> Riddell: you around
[03:32] <flavio> apt doesnt found 'amsn'. why? :|
[03:33] <Zaire> where does firefox install to on kubuntu?
[03:34] <MasterEvilAce> Zaire: /usr/bin/firefox
[03:35] <MasterEvilAce> or wait is that just the executable?
[03:35] <satempler> can any one help out with a  edgy problem, no one is in ubuntu+1
[03:35] <dan_> hey
[03:35] <Zaire> flash isn't accepting that directory
[03:35] <dan_> how can i make vlc play wmv's
[03:35] <satempler> it's not that hard a question
[03:35] <Zaire> it wants mozilla
[03:35] <MasterEvilAce> satempler: go for it, atleast a few of us use edgy
[03:35] <dan_> what browser are you using
[03:35] <dan_> zaire
[03:35] <satempler> i just need to restart kubuntu powermanager
[03:36] <Zaire> the latest mozilla that was available to apt
[03:36] <Zaire> or rather firefox
[03:36] <dan_> oh
[03:36] <dan_> its in a different directory than mozilla
[03:36] <dan_> i cant remember which
[03:36] <dan_> but i had the same problem
[03:36] <LeeJunFan> doesn't edgy user powernowd?
[03:36] <dan_> its in like bin or something
[03:36] <satempler> well ya but thats not it
[03:37] <dan_> so can anyone help me
[03:37] <satempler> i need the power meter applet in the systray back up
[03:37] <dan_> i wanna watch wmv's
[03:37] <dan_> but i cant get vlc to play them
[03:37] <LeeJunFan> satempler: so you just need to start the app?
[03:37] <satempler> LeeJunFan: ya
[03:37] <Zaire> you need the w32 codecs I believe
[03:37] <satempler> thats it
[03:37] <echo1___> Where can I track down a good codec pack?
[03:37] <satempler> it was started it just crashed
[03:37] <Zaire> !mp3
[03:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:37] <LeeJunFan> kpowersave I think.
[03:38] <dan_> oh yeah i knew that but i cant find it
[03:38] <LeeJunFan> satempler: alt-f2 kpowersave ?
[03:38] <satempler> LeeJunFan: in Kubuntu Edgy it's kde-guidence-poersave
[03:38] <satempler> oops powersave
[03:38] <satempler> kpowersave isn't installed
[03:38] <NeoSaki> woot tweaked my ATI 9700 pro to run glxgears @ 10200fps
[03:39] <dan_> anyone know where i can get the w32 codecs
[03:39] <dan_> i cant find it in synaptic
[03:39] <Zaire> Im trying to load the page and find the one I got for you
[03:39] <satempler> dan_: ya in google search for Ubuntu PLF
[03:39] <dan_> ok i'll try that
[03:40] <satempler> go to ubuntu fr thing and there will be sources.list lines
[03:40] <Zaire> dan: wget -c http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/non-free/w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[03:40] <echo1___> NeoSaki: 8.26.9?
[03:40] <Zaire> copy that link into sli
[03:40] <Zaire> cli*
[03:42] <NeoSaki> echo1___: fglrx and the propriotery ones, yeah
[03:42] <Zaire> once you get that package cd into the directory and sudo chmod +x it and then sudo dpkg -i <packagename>
[03:42] <echo1___> NeoSaki: which kernel?
[03:43] <LeeJunFan> awe crap, well I'm going to upgrade to edgy on this machine - it can't be any worse than any version of windows :p
[03:44] <LeeJunFan> I normally keep with the devel version on this machine. Been lazy this cycle.
[03:45] <NeoSaki> 2.6.15-27-386
[03:45] <satempler> lol
[03:45] <NeoSaki> @ echo1___
[03:45] <MasterEvilAce> LeeJunFan: enjoy, edgy is pretty cool
[03:45] <satempler> by the way LeeJunFan kpowersave isn't here
[03:46] <LeeJunFan> MasterEvilAce: yeah, I suspect my changes will be minimal - I'm running newest kde and amarok anyway.
[03:47] <LeeJunFan> my problem is that something will go wrong, and someone will call me needing me to do some work for them and my system will be broke - never fails.
[03:47] <satempler> lol
[03:47] <flavio> my sound boxes are USB. what can i do to make the boxes play?
[03:47] <LeeJunFan> 1193 packages to upgrade, this'll take a while. Glad I keep a local mirror.
[03:48] <satempler> but being a devel  distro It will be fixed almost momentarilly
[03:49] <MasterEvilAce> is plastik or crystal the default window decorations style?
[03:49] <MasterEvilAce> for kde
[03:49] <flavio> my sound boxes are USB. what can i do to make the boxes play?
[03:49] <NeoSaki> plastik, I think, MasterEvilAce
[03:50] <NeoSaki> flavio: search on the net for <sound box model> linux install guide
[03:50] <LeeJunFan> yeah, I think so.
[03:50] <flavio> NeoSaki: thanks one more time
[03:52] <echo1___> NeoSaki: Can you guide me through fixing my install?  Apparenlty the kernel module has the wrong driver so no 3d accel for me...
[03:53] <NeoSaki> echo1___: For an ATI card?
[03:54] <echo1___> yes
[03:54] <LeeJunFan> oh, I knew it - this isn't going to be a smooth edgy update for me. hehe
[03:56] <NeoSaki> echo1___: m'kay, first off which kernel are you using?
[03:58] <echo1___> same
[03:58] <MasterEvilAce> LeeJunFan: what happened?
[03:58] <maple> how do I kill ident2?
[03:58] <echo1___> bart@echo1:~$ uname -r
[03:58] <echo1___> 2.6.15-27-386
[03:59] <LeeJunFan> MasterEvilAce: just dependancy hell, files in existing packages conflicting with ones to be installed, etc...
[03:59] <tchung> hi all, I am having problem installing flash player
[03:59] <tchung> after the installation, mozilla still asks for plug-in
[03:59] <LeeJunFan> MasterEvilAce: openoffice and firefox giving me crap, that's all so far.
[04:00] <MasterEvilAce> LeeJunFan: lol. I remember having a bunch of errors.. i basically just kept running Update/Upgrade/Dist-upgrade with the -f line.. eventually everything managed to sort itself out
[04:00] <Astroman1> hi i need help to setup kubuntu on my computer. can anyone help me plz !
[04:00] <flavio> NeoSaki: didnt found. :| u know any conf that i can change to make the boxes work?
[04:01] <NeoSaki> echo1: sorry bout that, installing some games xD
[04:01] <LeeJunFan> MasterEvilAce: yeah, I've already tried that a few times, I just removed openoffice.org-gtk (don't know how it got on my sys anyway).
[04:01] <MasterEvilAce> Astroman1: just ask your question / problem in here, and someone will jump at it :)
[04:01] <NeoSaki> echo1: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[04:02] <NeoSaki> echo1: echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[04:02] <NeoSaki> echo1: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_old
[04:02] <[-KaSatKa-] > Should i update to the 2.6.18 kernel?
[04:02] <NeoSaki> echo1 sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:02] <Astroman1> after filling the progress bar, my screen is black and nothing happend. my keyboard dont respond.
[04:02] <Astroman1> i can only restart my computer with the swith
[04:03] <Homer> [-KaSatKa-] : depends, you got driver problems?
[04:03] <Astroman1> graphics
[04:03] <LeeJunFan> !framebuffer
[04:03] <ubotu> If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[04:03] <LeeJunFan> Astroman1: check that out ^^
[04:04] <kyron> hey all, I have some of my students attempting to install kubuntu. I'm a Gentoo user and no nothing of the install process. One of the reported problems for one of the students is that the install process (booting the install CD that is) "freezes" on a blank screen. I'd like to point the user to the proper web page for troubleshooting the install boot CD...
[04:04] <Astroman1> its me lol...
[04:04] <kyron> LOL
[04:05] <kyron> Astroman1, well well
[04:05] <MasterEvilAce> LOL
[04:05] <kyron> told ya you'd find help here
[04:05] <LeeJunFan> hah, I was just about to tell him to look at that link too.
[04:05] <MasterEvilAce> that's hilarious kyron, leejunfan
[04:05] <bilgisayar_> hi to everybody
[04:05] <MasterEvilAce> er
[04:05] <Astroman1> that's right
[04:05] <MasterEvilAce> not leejun
[04:05] <MasterEvilAce> astroman
[04:05] <kyron> Astroman1, if your computer freezes, than I would suspect hardware problems..
[04:05] <Zaire> yea one would think lol
[04:06] <Astroman1> k
[04:06] <Homer> kyron: can I be your student?
[04:06] <kyron> btw, to all other users, really horrible to learn about lilo, I will definately miss that chap's braodcasts.
[04:06] <Homer> kyron: what do you teach?
[04:06] <bilgisayar_> i am a newbie and i want to install multimedia codecs is instlling automatix good for my kubuntu does it causes problems?
[04:06] <kyron> Homer, mwehehehe... you might regret that, I tend to be pedentic and sadistic ;)
[04:06] <Homer> lol
[04:06] <kyron> Homer, and, as I said, I'm more of a Gentoo user/installer
[04:07] <NeoSaki> bilgisayar_ automatix is a good start, but the codecs are illegal if you live in the states
[04:07] <LeeJunFan> on an unrelated FOSS person in the news - everyone else hear about Hans Reiser being suspect in his wifes disappearance?
[04:07] <Homer> ubotu, tell bilgisayar_ about easyubuntu
[04:07] <bilgisayar_> no i dont live in states
[04:07] <kyron> Astroman1, you might want to run memtest86 on your machine to at least check for flakey RAM
[04:07] <bilgisayar_> what is easyubuntu
[04:07] <MasterEvilAce> kyron: What class are you teaching ?? What class messes with linux?
[04:07] <bilgisayar_> ?
[04:07] <Homer> !easyubuntu
[04:07] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[04:08] <bilgisayar_> ok i ll be reding that page for a while
[04:09] <kyron> Astroman1, and I would also suspect that Kubuntu has a way to boot the install process _without_ framebuffer
[04:09] <kyron> ALL: am-I correct?
[04:09] <echo1> NeoSaki I'm trying to install the ati fglrx drivers
[04:09] <echo1> the ones released today...
[04:09] <Astroman1> well i just read something about that..
[04:09] <kyron> MasterEvilAce, booring, it's not a Linux class, it's BASH/AWK scripting class ;)
[04:09] <Astroman1> i agree !
[04:10] <Astroman1> i'll be back i'll try something
[04:10] <Astroman1> thx
[04:10] <MasterEvilAce> kyron: okay, last question, if he's in your class why are you IRCing to him? lol
[04:10] <MasterEvilAce> that's so funny
[04:10] <kyron> Astroman1, first run memtest86, then try booting without framebuffer enabled.... if it freezes, at least the nice useless beautyfull graphics won't hide _very important_ boot process messages
[04:10] <NeoSaki> echo1 okay...
[04:10] <echo1> the commands you gave are open aren't they?
[04:11] <kyron> MasterEvilAce, cuz it's 22h10 here :)
[04:11] <Astroman1> cool
[04:11] <Astroman1> i'll be back
[04:11] <kyron> oops...forgot to tell him memtest could be looong
[04:12] <NeoSaki> echo1 open?
[04:12] <NeoSaki> if you typed them like that, it should get you close to where you need to be
[04:12] <echo1> k
[04:13] <NeoSaki> tell me when you get to the last command, which opens your config file
[04:14] <_paul> hey, can anyone tell me how i can get my wireless card working?
[04:15] <echo1> ok...done
[04:15] <_paul> anyone at all?
[04:15] <echo1> neosaki done
[04:15] <_paul> i just forget where to go to activate the connection with it
[04:16] <NeoSaki> echo1: okay, find this: Section      "Device"
[04:16] <echo1> done
[04:16] <echo1> there are two device sections
[04:16] <NeoSaki> and under it there should be  Driver     "ati"
[04:16] <echo1> yes
[04:16] <NeoSaki> change the "ati" to "fglrx"
[04:17] <deadsoul> Kmail could not find new post in my gmail account although there are some
[04:17] <_paul> im gonna be t3h spamzorz until i get answers!!!
[04:17] <echo1> done
[04:17] <deadsoul> What can be the problem?
[04:17] <deadsoul> Kmail could not find new post in my gmail account although there are some. What can be the problem?*
[04:18] <_paul> please someone help me with my wireless card!  where do i go to pick the different kinds of connections?
[04:19] <echo1> K -> Internet -> Wireless Assistant ??
[04:19] <MasterEvilAce> I don't have wireless.. but Menu -> Internet should have a few wireless tools
[04:20] <trappist> deadsoul: I've found that gmail's pop interface is really slow.  it's probably deliberate.
[04:21] <_paul> naw, i know i need to use the eth1 connection
[04:21] <NeoSaki> echo1: ok save and exit
[04:21] <echo1> done
[04:21] <NeoSaki> echo1: fglrxinfo
[04:21] <deadsoul> Thank you trappist...
[04:22] <NeoSaki> echo1: tell me whats it be saying
[04:22] <echo1> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[04:22] <echo1> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[04:22] <echo1> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[04:22] <echo1> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)
[04:25] <NeoSaki> echo1: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:25] <NeoSaki> and add these to your list
[04:25] <NeoSaki> deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/ dapper main
[04:25] <NeoSaki> deb http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main
[04:25] <NeoSaki> deb-src http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main
[04:25] <NeoSaki> at the bottom
[04:25] <NeoSaki> wget http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/quinn.key.asc -O - | sudo apt-key add -
[04:26] <NeoSaki> sudo apt-get update
[04:27] <NeoSaki> sudo apt-get update
[04:27] <NeoSaki> erm...
[04:27] <NeoSaki> woops already told you that
[04:27] <echo1> err
[04:27] <echo1> when i did the wget i got:
[04:27] <echo1> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[04:27] <echo1> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[04:27] <echo1> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[04:27] <echo1> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)
[04:27] <echo1> err
[04:27] <echo1> Cannot write to `quinn.key.asc' (Broken pipe).
[04:28] <NeoSaki> sudo apt-get install compiz xserver-xgl libgl1-mesa xserver-xorg libglitz-glx1 compiz-kde cgwd cgwd-themes
[04:28] <echo1> nm fixed that
[04:29] <NeoSaki> shit, echo1, I gotta goto work
[04:29] <echo1> lol ok
[04:29] <NeoSaki> Will you be on tomorrow morning?
[04:29] <echo1> yeah
[04:29] <NeoSaki> like 8-11am cst?
[04:29] <echo1> yeah I should be around for an hour or so atleast
[04:29] <NeoSaki> ken, I'll finish up with ya then
[04:29] <NeoSaki> sorry about that
[04:29] <echo1> awesome
[04:29] <echo1> np at all
[04:30] <MasterEvilAce> compiz never worked for me ;(
[04:30] <MasterEvilAce> in dapper
[04:30] <NeoSaki> MasterEvilAce: Works great for me
[04:30] <LeeJunFan> MasterEvilAce: I had it working, but didn't really care for having to use gnome window decore with kde to make it work.
[04:30] <MasterEvilAce> ah
[04:31] <MasterEvilAce> I remember my desktop would not remember the resolution during reboot.. no windows really 'worked'.. i remember it was really glitchy to the point of being unusable. sucked :( looks cool though from the videos
[04:31] <MasterEvilAce> no real functionality.. just pure eye-candy though
[04:32] <echo1> I just wanna be able to play FlightGear
[04:32] <echo1> :)
[04:32] <echo1> but compiz would be oh so awesome
[04:32] <LeeJunFan> MasterEvilAce: yeah, considering there's like 3 different ways to go about it doesn't help lessen the confusion either.
[04:32] <LeeJunFan> I ended up setting mine up in .Xsession so when I chose to login with default WM at kdm it loaded xgl - otherwize it gave me normal X/kde.
[04:33] <MasterEvilAce> I heard XGL or what not was supposed to come by default in some version of KDE or kubuntu or something?? I don't remember specifics.. or am i imagining/confusing something
[04:33] <LeeJunFan> instead of editing the kdm configs and having it do xgl no matter what.
[04:33] <LeeJunFan> MasterEvilAce: it was supposed to be in edgy, but I don't know about kde. I think ubuntu was the focus of that suggestion.
[04:34] <MasterEvilAce> oh, lame
[04:34] <echo1> super lame
[04:34] <[mecha] > hi
[04:34] <mark_> IM BACK
[04:34] <MasterEvilAce> gnome gets all the stuff nobody wants to live without, but that's like the only eyecandy IN gnome :P
[04:34] <mark_> with a new kernel built by me!!!
[04:34] <echo1> nice!
[04:34] <LeeJunFan> well, afaik no one has made it work correctly with kde window decor so rather than have kubuntu have dependancies on gnome...
[04:35] <MasterEvilAce> yeah, makes sense
[04:35] <[mecha] > i've installed linux for my first time, i'm trying to use firefox, but it isn't work
[04:35] <mark_> 0.o
[04:35] <[mecha] > i'v extracted firefox file in a dir and executed the file "firefox-bin"
[04:35] <[mecha] > and don't append nothing
[04:36] <[mecha] > con u help me?
[04:36] <[mecha] > can
[04:36] <mark_> just use "sudo apt-get install firefox" in konsole
[04:36] <DeadSouL> Try to install it from K> Add/Remove Programs
[04:36] <DeadSouL> or do what mark_ said
[04:36] <mark_> add/remove programs is evil
[04:37] <mark_> guhhhh i gotta drink this nasty antibiotic
[04:37] <mark_> yuck
[04:37] <LeeJunFan> apt-get -f dist-upgrade is evil :) But I'm doing it anyway.
[04:37] <LeeJunFan> hehe
[04:37] <DeadSouL> :)
[04:37] <mark_> lol
[04:38] <mark_> brb gonna reinstall my vidia driver now that i've installed the dev files for xorg
[04:38] <mark_> nvidia*
[04:38] <MasterEvilAce> -f dist-upgrade is godlike
[04:38] <Dragnslcr> Well, so much for dual-booting into Windows
[04:39] <Dragnslcr> Kubuntu and/or grub managed to break it
[04:39] <MasterEvilAce> KUBUNTU IS INFALLIBLE!
[04:39] <MasterEvilAce> how dare you
[04:39] <Dragnslcr> Heh
[04:39] <LeeJunFan> windows doesn't need any help to be broken, don't blame it on linux :p
[04:40] <Dragnslcr> Heh, true, but now it's even more broken
[04:40] <echo1> why bother with windows :p
[04:40] <LeeJunFan> Dragnslcr: what are your symptoms with dual booting?
[04:40] <MasterEvilAce> It shouldn't have broken it. It sounds like a user-error. you should submit a bug report and complain about users have it too easy when it comes to breaking stuff
[04:41] <Dragnslcr> Windows complains about a broken disk
[04:41] <Dragnslcr> It didn't exactly give much for details
[04:42] <Dragnslcr> And if I disconnect the second disk that I installed Kubuntu too, so that it only has the first disk to use, grub chokes
[04:43] <LeeJunFan> Dragnslcr: if you check /boot/grub/menu.lst what is windows supposed to be booting from there?
[04:43] <LeeJunFan> root            (hd0,0)?
[04:43] <LeeJunFan> chainloader +1 ?
[04:44] <Dragnslcr> Yup
[04:44] <AWOSDev> I'm not sure how to set up a PLIP connection and I looked all around the documentation and my Linux (albeit Red Hat) book and I can't figure it out.
[04:45] <LeeJunFan> Dragnslcr: maybe try installing grub again 'sudo grub-install hd0'
[04:46] <mark_> oh my god
[04:46] <mark_> my computer crashed again
[04:46] <MasterEvilAce> that's what you get for compiling yourself :P
[04:46] <LeeJunFan> mark_: have you tried disabling framebuffer yet?
[04:46] <mark_> nah, it was happening before on a normal kernel
[04:46] <mark_> nah leejunfan
[04:47] <mark_> that wiki scared me
[04:47] <LeeJunFan> mark_: it's easy.
[04:47] <LeeJunFan> mark_: just go edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and for the kernel version you are using add vga=normal to the cmdline args for the kernel.
[04:47] <LeeJunFan> and reboot.
[04:48] <mark_> ok ill try
[04:48] <mark_> just a sec
[04:48] <AWOSDev> I'm assuming setting up a PLIP connection requires something to do with ifconfig but I can't figure out what.
[04:48] <mark_> if my comp freaks out one more time im reinstalling ubuntu and wiping my hard drive
[04:48] <Dragnslcr> LeeJunFan- entry looks the same. Would I be any better off installing grub to my Linux drive instead?
[04:48] <mark_> of course im backing up my new pet kernel
[04:48] <maltaethiron> !eth0
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eth0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <maltaethiron> hey guys, who can tell me how you can choose the way you get on the internet? (like choosing between eth0 and eth1)
[04:49] <LeeJunFan> Dragnslcr: no, grub needs to be on the mbr of the disk your PC boots from. The entry will look the same in the config but the mbr has now been updated.
[04:50] <MasterEvilAce> maltaethiron: system settings-> network settings ->
[04:50] <lupine_85> maltaethiron: assuming both are connected up, you need to choose a default route
[04:50] <LeeJunFan> Dragnslcr: I've never seen that exact problem you're having though.
[04:50] <maltaethiron> ok, well its on my other laptop
[04:50] <maltaethiron> im fixing it for a friend
[04:50] <lupine_85> (i.e. tell ubuntu which interface to send your packets to)
[04:50] <Dragnslcr> LeeJunFan- I'll try another reboot tomorrow and see if it fixed it. If not, I'll write down the exact error message
[04:51] <mark_> no menu.list lee
[04:51] <maltaethiron> thanks
[04:51] <MasterEvilAce> np
[04:51] <maltaethiron> hehe
[04:51] <mark_> nvm i forgot the space
[04:52] <maltaethiron> ok guys, new problem for maltaethiron
[04:53] <maltaethiron> the eth1 interface wont enable
[04:53] <maltaethiron> it goes enabled for like a second, then goes back to disabled...and i already disabled the ethernet device
[04:54] <MasterEvilAce> maltaethiron: perhaps trouble trying to connect?
[04:54] <AWOSDev> You know, maltaethiron, I have that same probelm
[04:54] <AWOSDev> *problem
[04:54] <AWOSDev> when I try to disable my eth0, wlan0 comes with.
[04:54] <maltaethiron> but what im saying, MasterEvilAce, is that it wont even enable
[04:55] <maltaethiron> like...
[04:55] <MasterEvilAce> ah
[04:55] <maltaethiron> idk, could there be something wrong with the card?
[04:55] <maltaethiron> i worked two days ago!
[04:55] <maltaethiron> lol
[04:55] <AWOSDev> maltaethiron, what card is it? and is it WLAN or eth?
[04:56] <maltaethiron> eth
[04:56] <maltaethiron> eth1
[04:56] <mark_> ok done
[04:56] <AWOSDev> I know but like mty wlan0 is really eth1, so just asking.
[04:56] <AWOSDev> PCMCIA, PCIX or onboard?
[04:56] <mark_> hey, how do i add a bootsplash menu to my custom kernel?
[04:57] <maltaethiron> um..its builtin, so im gonna assume onboard?
[04:57] <AWOSDev> **sorry not PCI express I meant MiniPCI.
[04:57] <AWOSDev> yes onboard == builtin
[04:57] <arunkale> hello
[04:57] <AWOSDev> that sucker came with two builtins?
[04:57] <maltaethiron> built it ethernet and wireless
[04:57] <AWOSDev> oh......eth0 is wireless then?
[04:58] <maltaethiron> naw, eth0 is the ethernet
[04:58] <maltaethiron> eth1 is wireless
[04:58] <AWOSDev> then eth1 is the wireless
[04:58] <AWOSDev> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[04:58] <AWOSDev> yeah same problem here.
[04:58] <AWOSDev> Not even a hint of a clue on how to fix it.
[04:58] <maltaethiron> damn
[04:58] <mark_> awos, go to system settings and networking and disable your built in ethernet
[04:58] <maltaethiron> well, it's not my computer
[04:58] <AWOSDev> I have a 100' cable to my living room right now :P
[04:58] <maltaethiron> and at least the internet works when you plug an eithernet cord into it -P
[04:58] <mark_> or whoever has the problem
[04:58] <maltaethiron> =P
[04:58] <maltaethiron> *
[04:59] <AWOSDev> mark_, when I disable the eth0 (like maltaethiron) eth1 comes with.
[04:59] <mark_> mal
[04:59] <mark_> does your system settings show your wireless card at all?
[04:59] <maltaethiron> yeah!
[04:59] <maltaethiron> thats whats pissin me off
[04:59] <mark_> and what brand and version is it?
[04:59] <maltaethiron> er..
[04:59] <mark_> lspci
[04:59] <AWOSDev> maltaethiron, after I disable eth0 I have to reboot.  THEN it accepts Ethernet again.
[04:59] <mark_> use it on konsole
[04:59] <AWOSDev> mark_ yes mine does to
[05:00] <mark_> yours are probably broadcom
[05:00] <AWOSDev> mark_ I have a Linksys WPC54G (commonly known as Broadcom 4318)
[05:00] <mark_> yep
[05:00] <AWOSDev> yep!
[05:00] <mark_> you've got ndiswrapper all set up right?
[05:00] <AWOSDev> I had to use ndiswrapper for it to even recognise it
[05:00] <AWOSDev> Yes I do...
[05:00] <maltaethiron> mark_: what am i looking for in this ugly pile of text?
[05:00] <mark_> use sudo rmmod bcm43xx
[05:00] <AWOSDev> and it connects to the access point, asks me for my WEP key, it connects
[05:00] <narg_> I installed kverbos, but its erroring when attempting to open the standard verb file. Any idea why?
[05:01] <maltaethiron> i cant exactly pastebin it...*sigh*
[05:01] <Josh_> can anyone help me with adept
[05:01] <AWOSDev> mark_ I already rmmoded that.
[05:01] <mark_> [and then sudo rmmod ndiswrapper
[05:01] <mark_> hmm
[05:01] <Josh_> adept froze while installing/downloading flash
[05:01] <Josh_> i restarted my computer
[05:01] <Josh_> and now it is in read only mode and says to close myother one
[05:01] <mark_> has your wireless never worked at all?
[05:01] <AWOSDev> what's adept?
[05:01] <Josh_> but i don't know what to close cause there's no adept app to close
[05:01] <AWOSDev> mark_ Not in Linux
[05:01] <mark_> adept is package manager in kubuntu
[05:01] <AWOSDev> mark_ in Windows it's iffy...not for a week
[05:02] <mark_> hmmm
[05:02] <maltaethiron> lol
[05:02] <AWOSDev> I have real Kubuntu on my router/server/everything else though.
[05:02] <mark_> awos you shoulda apt-got kubuntu
[05:02] <mark_> fuller
[05:02] <maltaethiron> lol, apt-got
[05:02] <AWOSDev> Oh didn't even know I could :P
[05:02] <maltaethiron> the past tense of apt-get
[05:03] <mark_> yep
[05:03] <AWOSDev> :)
[05:03] <mark_> it will get you most all of the kde stuff
[05:03] <AWOSDev> I know I don't like gaim I want Konversation!
[05:03] <satempler> any one know how to get the power applet in the systray in edgy back, its not klaptop or kpowersave
[05:03] <AWOSDev> kpowersaveD with a D on the end
[05:03] <satempler> the package is kde-guidance-powersave
[05:03] <AWOSDev> is what I use
[05:04] <AWOSDev> at least in SuSE when I actually cared
[05:04] <satempler> nope
[05:04] <maltaethiron> lol, like strong bad "powersave....'d!"
[05:04] <satempler> not in edgy
[05:04] <Josh_> anyone download flash and it take a while?
[05:04] <maltaethiron> it didnt take extremely long for me
[05:04] <mark_> flash wont install with the deb package for me
[05:04] <AWOSDev> mark_ the Broadcom keeps telling Windows that there's a resource conflict with nothing.
[05:04] <mark_> guess macromedia hateses me
[05:05] <maltaethiron> heh
[05:05] <AWOSDev> Yes, that's right, there's a resource conflict with nothing.
[05:05] <satempler> how can i query a package to find out the contents of it
[05:05] <maltaethiron> well wait
[05:05] <mark_> lol
[05:05] <maltaethiron> flash 9?
[05:05] <AWOSDev> mark_ I hate Flash anyway
[05:05] <mark_> flash 9 is coming soon
[05:05] <Josh_> whatever the most updated flash is
[05:05] <arunkale> I just ran Adept and I get this error: You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[05:05] <maltaethiron> but paul loves homestar!!
[05:05] <AWOSDev> And I will still hate it :P
[05:05] <Hawkwind> mark_: Not til after the first of the year
[05:05] <arunkale> what do i do?
[05:05] <Josh_> arunkale: i got that message too
[05:05] <mark_> hopefully 9 will work out the crap
[05:05] <mark_> ><
[05:05] <Josh_> arunkale: i've been trying to get help about it
[05:05] <mark_> stupid macrodobe
[05:05] <Hawkwind> Homer: Good morning!
[05:05] <Hawkwind> Ermmm
[05:05] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: Good morning!
[05:06] <mark_> reverse engineer flash already
[05:06] <arunkale> Josh_: any luck?
[05:06] <AWOSDev> macrodobe...that's funny...
[05:06] <mark_> hey hawkwind
[05:06] <Josh_> arunkale: nope, i can't figure out how to kill the last adept app that was on i guess
[05:06] <Hawkwind> Hey mark_
[05:06] <mark_> i wanna attach a bootsplash to my new linux kernel
[05:06] <Josh_> arunkale: and im not gettin too much help here
[05:06] <AWOSDev> Normally I don't repeat my questions, but it's pretty for back in the scrollbuffer.
[05:06] <mark_> how to??
[05:06] <Hawkwind> mark_: Did compiling the kernel solve the issues ?
[05:06] <Josh_> Jucato: you in here?
[05:06] <AWOSDev> I need help setting up a PLIP connection to another laptop.
[05:06] <DeadSouL> How can I add Firefox shortcut to >K?
[05:06] <Hawkwind> Josh_: He's not here
[05:07] <mark_> no, but installing the driver off the website did
[05:07] <maltaethiron> ok guys, well thanks for the help...im gonna go cry myself to death now
[05:07] <mark_> either that or the framebuffer thing
[05:07] <mark_> malt
[05:07] <Hobbsee> hey Hawkwind!
[05:07] <mark_> lets work thru urs now
[05:07] <Hawkwind> mark_: You'd have to patch the new kernel for bootsplash support
[05:07] <AWOSDev> Okay maltaethiron
[05:07] <mark_> aghhh
[05:07] <AWOSDev> Let us know if you don't die :P
[05:07] <maltaethiron> lol, ok awondev
[05:07] <Hawkwind> mark_: I haven't seen a bootsplash in yearssssss, so I have no use for that :)
[05:07] <AWOSDev> maltaethiron
[05:07] <Josh_> anyone know how to fix this error: You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[05:08] <AWOSDev> maltaethiron do 'lspci | grep Broadcom
[05:08] <mark_> i forgive my new kernel, its so fast
[05:08] <AWOSDev> '
[05:08] <Hawkwind> Josh_: Do you have adept open and running ?
[05:08] <maltaethiron> what, in konsole?
[05:08] <AWOSDev> yes
[05:08] <mark_> i was running my processors at halfspeed and didnt notice it
[05:08] <mark_> yes
[05:08] <Hawkwind> mark_: So you compiled the 2.6.18 kernel with my how-to ?
[05:08] <mark_> yes
[05:08] <red_> which is better gnome or kde
[05:08] <mark_> cept i cut some of the crap out of mine
[05:08] <Hawkwind> red_: Since you're in #Kubuntu, we'll answer KDE :P
[05:08] <mark_> like toshiba laptop support
[05:08] <Josh_> Hawkwind well i have it open now, but it won't let me install anything
[05:08] <AWOSDev> red_, Don't come to a KDE channel expecting fair advice :)
[05:09] <fyrmedic> Help, I can't get one of my hdd's to mount. It is a NTFS drive that has all of my music on it!!!
[05:09] <red_> i know, i just wanted to see what kind of answer i got
[05:09] <AWOSDev> red_ personally I hate Gnome because it's stupid idiotic and made for dumb people...like Windows XP
[05:09] <red_> thnaks
[05:09] <Hawkwind> !ntfs
[05:09] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:09] <Hawkwind> fyrmedic: ^^^^^^^^^
[05:09] <fyrmedic> any suggestions
[05:09] <mark_> have fun fyrmedic
[05:09] <AWOSDev> fyrmedic, it isn't that hard to mount NTFS.  did you try 'sudo' before the 'mount'?
[05:09] <Hawkwind> Josh_: Try closing it and using apt-get install <package-name> from a terminal
[05:10] <maltaethiron> awondev: i typed your garble text..
[05:10] <echo1> err, adept refuses to start
[05:10] <red_> dont forget sudo infront of it
[05:10] <maltaethiron> now teh whaT?
[05:10] <AWOSDev> e.g. 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1'
[05:10] <echo1> it isnt running, but it did crash on its last run
[05:10] <AWOSDev> maltaehtiron - did it print anything about Broadcom?
[05:10] <arunkale> Josh_: I think i got it, hold on.. will let you know
[05:10] <fyrmedic> I did it through "System Settings" in the  GUI. I am a terminal illiterate
[05:10] <mark_>  look for a wireless looking name in there
[05:10] <mark_> llike broadcom
[05:10] <maltaethiron> it says the following:
[05:10] <mark_> dont do it
[05:10] <DeadSouL> How can I add Firefox shortcut to >K after installing by the help of console?
[05:10] <echo1> lol
[05:11] <Hawkwind> fyrmedic: Time to learn the terminal.  It's the strength of Linux :)
[05:11] <Hawkwind> DeadSouL: To your menu you mean ?
[05:11] <AWOSDev> DeadSouL: kbuildsyoca
[05:11] <Josh_> arunkale: thanks
[05:11] <mark_> terminal is ur friend
[05:11] <arunkale> Josh_: by any chance, did you do an update recently?
[05:11] <fyrmedic> I know. I am working on it....
[05:11] <echo1> speaking of, how can i figure out why adept wont run
[05:11] <Hawkwind> AWOSDev: That's kbuildsycoca  :P
[05:11] <echo1> it crashed on its last run
[05:12] <DeadSouL> Yeah to my menu Hawkwind.
[05:12] <fyrmedic> I am picking it up slowly...
[05:12] <mark_> do sudo killall adept echo?
[05:12] <AWOSDev> Ah crap...thanks Hawkwind :)
[05:12] <Josh_> arunkale: i don't think so
[05:12] <Hawkwind> DeadSouL: How did you install it ?
[05:12] <AWOSDev> Oh yeah that reminds me of my other question.
[05:12] <mark_> do sudo killall adept echo1?
[05:12] <DeadSouL> AWOSDev do i have to write it intp console or where?
[05:12] <maltaethiron> Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02)   (next line)    Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[05:12] <echo1> bah!
[05:12] <AWOSDev> DeadSouL: yes
[05:12] <echo1> i did kill
[05:12] <maltaethiron> awosdev ^^^^
[05:12] <Hawkwind> DeadSouL: Wait, how did you install it ?
[05:12] <echo1> without sudo
[05:12] <mark_> argh a bcm43xx
[05:12] <mark_> !!
[05:12] <DeadSouL> thanks a lot
[05:12] <AWOSDev> maltaethiron: YES!!!!!!!
[05:13] <mark_> do rmmod bcm43xx and rmmod ndiswrapper
[05:13] <AWOSDev> maltaethiron: We have the *EXACT* same cards
[05:13] <mark_> plus sudo
[05:13] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[05:13] <maltaethiron> lol cool
[05:13] <AWOSDev> and the exact same problem.
[05:13] <mark_> then modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:13] <AWOSDev> mark_ Yes I've already done that and it doesn't work
[05:13] <mark_> your card is dead
[05:13] <mark_> ive given up on it
[05:13] <mark_> lol
[05:13] <DeadSouL> Hawkwind: "sudo apt-get install firefox" I wrote it in console
[05:13] <satempler> maltaethiron: i had to use ndiswrapper
[05:13] <Hawkwind> AWOSDev: If you have a broadcomm chip, read that URL I just pasted
[05:14] <satempler> maltaethiron: i have the same card
[05:14] <AWOSDev> It's still coming up.
[05:14] <AWOSDev> I have a slllllllllllllllllllllllooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww DNS server
[05:14] <Hawkwind> DeadSouL: Ok.  Then type:  kbuildsycoca in a terminal and it should update your menus for you
[05:14] <satempler> maltaethiron: if you would like there are drivers that work with the bcm43xx driver
[05:14] <AWOSDev> I still need help with PCIC...
[05:14] <AWOSDev> doh, PLIP
[05:14] <mark_> i dont understand fwcutter
[05:15] <Josh_> hawkwind how do i kill an app in the terminal?
[05:15] <mark_> good thing i dont have to use it XD
[05:15] <AWOSDev> Josh_ killall -9 nameofapp
[05:15] <Hawkwind> Josh_: Several ways.  killall <app>
[05:15] <DeadSouL> Tahnks Hawkwind
[05:15] <maltaethiron> satempler: so basicaly i need drivers for the card? thats it?
[05:15] <Hawkwind> Do NOT use -9
[05:15] <DeadSouL> thanks*
[05:15] <linuxkid2> I want to set up a simple web server. I'm thinking LighTTPD, but I couldn't get that to work with PHP before.
[05:15] <satempler> maltaethiron: yes
[05:15] <arunkale> Josh_: i fixed it :)
[05:15] <Hawkwind> AWOSDev: kill -9 should be used a very last resort
[05:15] <satempler> maltaethiron: some sort of windows sys driver
[05:15] <AWOSDev> Hawkwind, none of my apps close unless I do -9.  then again, none of the apps I resort to 'killall' for anyway can use anything *but* -9 :)
[05:16] <Hawkwind> Josh_: You can also do:  ps aux | grep <app>  and find the PID# then kill PID#
[05:16] <DeadSouL> Hawkwind:
[05:16] <mark_> bcmwl5.sys most likely
[05:16] <maltaethiron> satempler: so you've got the same card..did you start off with this problem?
[05:16] <DeadSouL> kbuildsycoca running...
[05:16] <DeadSouL> Reusing existing ksycoca
[05:16] <DeadSouL> kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[05:16] <flavio> what i need to install to make my s-video output?
[05:16] <satempler> maltaethiron: be warned you will not have 802.11G speeds with bcm43xx driver
[05:16] <flavio> what i need to install to make my s-video output works?
[05:16] <Josh_> arunkale: how did you do it?
[05:16] <linuxkid2> I thought NDISWrapper used the .inf driver.
[05:16] <AWOSDev> DeadSouL: that's normal (at least for my computer)
[05:16] <mark_> ya it does
[05:16] <Hawkwind> DeadSouL: Restart X will also do it
[05:16] <mark_> hush linuxkid
[05:16] <linuxkid2> flavio: what video card?
[05:16] <maltaethiron> satempler: totally ok...it's just for the weekend
[05:16] <arunkale> Josh_: run sudo apt-get update in the terminal
[05:16] <mark_> bcmwl5.inf
[05:16] <DeadSouL> Ok it is installed. Thanks Hawkwind and AWOSDev
[05:16] <linuxkid2> mark__ sorry :( what I do?
[05:16] <satempler> maltaethiron: but ndiswrapper makes the g speeds
[05:16] <AWOSDev> I followed the Wiki how-to on NDISwrapper
[05:16] <AWOSDev> DeadSouL: no problem :)
[05:17] <Hawkwind> DeadSouL: You're welcome
[05:17] <satempler> maltaethiron: ok then simple
[05:17] <satempler> fallow the instructions here one sec
[05:17] <maltaethiron> ok
[05:17] <josh__> openoffice will not start up!!!
[05:17] <josh__> i have something to print by tomorrow!
[05:17] <Josh_> arunkale: what does that do?
[05:17] <mark_> " I thought NDISWrapper used the .inf driver."> usurped my authority
[05:17] <flavio> linuxkid2: geforce 440mx 64mb
[05:17] <josh__> it shows that its starting up and then nothing happens
[05:17] <josh__> why is this?
[05:17] <box> hello
[05:18] <arunkale> Josh_: It will tell you exactly where the error is, run that and paste what you see in a pastebin, i'll tell you the next step then
[05:18] <linuxkid2> flavio: try the nvidia driver.
[05:18] <Josh_> arunkale : and did yours end saying --configure -a' to crrect the problem
[05:18] <linuxkid2> !nvidia > flavio
[05:18] <AWOSDev> Josh__ is it just slow?
[05:18] <josh__> how do i see the error?
[05:18] <box> can anyone here help me with asian language input?
[05:18] <josh__> and no i've tried opening it a couple times in a row like 10 minutes ago
[05:18] <Hawkwind> josh__: Have you tried starting it from a terminal/konsole to see if it gives you errors ?
[05:18] <arunkale> Josh_: yes.. run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' and it will fix itself
[05:18] <satempler> ok maltaethiron here it is http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=115572
[05:19] <maltaethiron> ty satempler
[05:19] <AWOSDev> Fedora Core?  on a Kubuntu channel?  now I'm confused...
[05:19] <satempler> maltaethiron: don't wory about it being fedora use it to get the 802.11.zip drivers
[05:19] <Hawkwind> AWOSDev: Many docs from other distros will work.  Just depends on what it is
[05:19] <josh__> how do i start it in terminal/
[05:19] <satempler> maltaethiron: then sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[05:19] <Hawkwind> josh__: alt-f2 and then type: konsole
[05:19] <Josh_> arunkale: and that's it?
[05:19] <AWOSDev> Josh__ go into the Konsole and then type          oowriter
[05:20] <arunkale> did you run that command Josh_?
[05:20] <satempler> maltaethiron: then run the command
[05:20] <Hawkwind> AWOSDev: He doesn't know how to open konsole until I just told him :P
[05:20] <maltaethiron> satempler...ok sweet..so when i have that laptop plugged in via ethernet, then ill do this?
[05:20] <arunkale> Josh_: did it do it's thing?
[05:20] <Josh_> yeah and now it is downloading my flash plugin.. but it's just sitting there says 'Downloading . . '
[05:20] <Josh_> arunkale
[05:20] <satempler> maltaethiron: ya
[05:20] <Josh_> arunkale: and last time in adept, it sa there for a good 10min stuck at 90%
[05:20] <maltaethiron> very cool satempler, thanks a lot
[05:20] <satempler> maltaethiron: or download all the deps now
[05:20] <arunkale> yeah hold on, dont worry
[05:20] <josh__> umm wtf
[05:20] <arunkale> let it happen
[05:20] <AWOSDev> Yeah I'll have to try that when I have time to kill.
[05:20] <josh__> it works now after i typed the command
[05:20] <arunkale> it downloads it
[05:20] <fyrmedic> Ok console didn't work for me.l... Thanks anyway I'll try in a couple of days.
[05:20] <linuxkid2> flavio: careful installing the nvidia drivers. One wrong step and you end up with only a shell prompt.
[05:20] <satempler> and then sudo dpkg -i *.deb on the laptop
[05:21] <josh__> everything is fine all of a sudden....wierd
[05:21] <maltaethiron> i gotta get some sleep bro....i fell asleep in english earlier
[05:21] <Josh_> arunkale: what if it gets stuck again?
[05:21] <maltaethiron> ill do it tomorow
[05:21] <Hawkwind> josh__: Maybe the command in the menu is incorrect or something
[05:21] <mark_> ><
[05:21] <arunkale> Josh_: i had the same problem man
[05:21] <Josh_> and in general with everyone, how did you all learn how to do this stuff in kubuntu?
[05:21] <arunkale> it wont get stuck
[05:21] <satempler> ok
[05:21] <linuxkid2> openoffice command is ooffice
[05:21] <satempler> I will be here possibly
[05:21] <mark_> my comp crashed again
[05:21] <maltaethiron> thanks again though
[05:21] <arunkale> Josh_: by asking people/google search
[05:21] <AWOSDev> You know for some reason my laptop decided today it wants to boot to runlevel2 ONLY today?
[05:21] <mark_> imma wipe my hard drive and try a reinstall
[05:21] <maltaethiron> ill be here tomorow night..prolly 9ish
[05:21] <josh__> ok its randomly not working again
[05:21] <Hawkwind> linuxkid2: Or oowriter or many others actually
[05:21] <AWOSDev> I tried rebooting and it went to runlevel 2 again
[05:21] <maltaethiron> eastern time
[05:21] <AWOSDev> so I typed 'init 5'
[05:22] <AWOSDev> and it just sat there and sat there
[05:22] <AWOSDev> did nothing.
[05:22] <Josh_> arunkale: where did you learn general commands for the terminal? like opening apps, closing, killing, fixing, what not
[05:22] <AWOSDev> then I typed 'startx' and here I am
[05:22] <Josh_> arunkale: and learning what particular things meant
[05:22] <Josh_> same way?
[05:22] <josh__> this doesn't make any sence!
[05:22] <Josh_> people/google
[05:22] <arunkale> Josh_: yeah
[05:22] <AWOSDev> Josh_, for me, I got a Linux book
[05:22] <linuxkid2> Hawkwind: really?, I thought it was ooffice -writer
[05:22] <AWOSDev> Josh_ the rest I learned from man(1) :)
[05:23] <Hawkwind> linuxkid2: In a terminal type:  oo(then hit the tab key a couple of times).  You'll see some of the ways you can start it
[05:23] <linuxkid2> ok
[05:23] <AWOSDev> Now can someone please help me with PLIP?  I'm begging............
[05:23] <arunkale> Josh_: after that command does it's thing and you get to the next prompt, just exit the terminal -- type exit and press enter
[05:23] <Hawkwind> linuxkid2: I think ooffice -writer was the way OOo 1 got started.  OOo2 is different now
[05:23] <AWOSDev> oh pretty please  :?
[05:23] <arunkale> Josh_: and after that, try running Adept, should work
[05:23] <Josh_> arunkale: thanks.. its still downloading by the way, or so it says
[05:23] <Kr4t05> !vmware
[05:23] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[05:23] <Josh_> how do you open an app from the terminal?
[05:23] <Josh_> what do you type
[05:24] <AWOSDev> !plip
[05:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:24] <Hawkwind> Josh_: The name of the app usually
[05:24] <linuxkid2> Hawkwind: oh, your right about the commands. But the menu entries use the ooffice -writer,
[05:24] <linuxkid2> !lighttpd > linuxkid2
[05:24] <AWOSDev> maybe that's the problem, linuxkid2
[05:24] <arunkale> Josh_: yeah, it says downloading for a while, but eventually does download it, dont worry
[05:24] <Josh_> Hawkwind im trying to open amarok, i typed in amarok and it said command not found
[05:24] <Hawkwind> linuxkid2: Ah ok.  I don't use KDE or Gnome so I don't use menus :)
[05:24] <Josh_> arunkale thanks for the great help
[05:24] <Hawkwind> Josh_: Then you have to install it:  sudo apt-get install amarok
[05:25] <Homer> Hawkwind: twm?
[05:25] <AWOSDev> Hawkwind, how can you not use KDE or Gnome?
[05:25] <AWOSDev> oh nvm
[05:25] <Hawkwind> Homer: E17
[05:25] <AWOSDev> console-only :)
[05:25] <Josh_> Hawkwind it is installed. i play music on it all the time, i just wanted to see if i could open ti from the terminal
[05:25] <AWOSDev> Oh E17...haven't heard of that.
[05:25] <Hawkwind> AWOSDev: I use E17 window manager :P.  get-e.org or enlightenment.org
[05:25] <linuxkid2> Hawkwind: what do you use then? XFce? Fluxbox? CLI?
[05:25] <Hawkwind> linuxkid2: E17
[05:25] <Homer> enlightenment
[05:25] <linuxkid2> Cool
[05:26] <linuxkid2> that's supposed to be the coolest WM
[05:26] <Hawkwind> Tons better than enlightement as most people know it
[05:26] <AWOSDev> Is PLIP really that hard?
[05:26] <Homer> how is afterstep
[05:26] <Homer> I used litestep on windows for awhile
[05:26] <Homer> it's like the same thing right?
[05:26] <Hawkwind> http://seerofsouls.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=12&pos=27
[05:26] <LeeJunFan> well, after many manual apt-get installs and dpkg -r's and apt-get -f installs and dist-upgrades I've got edgy - hehe
[05:27] <Hawkwind> That's one of my screenshots from a few weeks ago
[05:27] <Hawkwind> Homer: Afterstep is nothing like E17 or litestep.  Not even remotely close
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> WindowMaker! :P
[05:27] <box> j
[05:27] <Hawkwind> http://seerofsouls.com/screenshots/Hawkwind14.png
[05:27] <Hawkwind> That's another E17 screenie :P
[05:28] <linuxkid2> I've used FluxBox, XFce, KDE (most) JWM, and a two day stint with GNOME.
[05:28] <LeeJunFan> almost worth updating to edgy for the fonts.
[05:28] <Homer> Josh: type amarok in the terminal
[05:28] <seth> LeeJunFan, I agree, the fonts are awesome
[05:28] <AWOSDev> :)
[05:28] <Hawkwind> AWOSDev: What would ?
[05:28] <AWOSDev> E17
[05:28] <Hawkwind> Hah not hardly
[05:29] <AWOSDev> It looks sa-weeeeet
[05:29] <Hawkwind> Though it runs very nicely on my P4 3.2GHz HT with 2GB of RAM :)
[05:29] <Hawkwind> AWOSDev: It's very nice.  Lots of configuring can be done with E17
[05:29] <linuxkid2> Wow
[05:29] <LeeJunFan> only I've got to recompile my kernel because of gcc updates so I can recompile my fglrx, either that or install the old gcc to compile my fglrx with, only I don't remember what version the kernel I have was compiled with, ehhe.
[05:29] <AWOSDev> Yeah my biggest computer is a Celeron 1.6 NoHT with 512MB
[05:29] <linuxkid2> Sounds like it outstrips XGL+Compiz
[05:29] <Homer> here is my desktop
[05:29] <Homer> http://www.imagedump.com/pics/458623.jpg
[05:30] <Cardboard_box> hello
[05:30] <AWOSDev> Hawkwind, I like just about every artist in your music collection :)
[05:30] <arunkale> Josh_: can you run adept now?
[05:31] <linuxkid2> Homer: what widget program do you use?
[05:31] <Hawkwind> AWOSDev: Hah.  My music collection is quite extensive.  I have just over 700,000 ogg files :P
[05:31] <MasterEvilAce> wait.. what's htis edgy and fonts stuff??
[05:31] <echo1> Homer: I need those widgets!
[05:31] <Hawkwind> http://seerofsouls.com/screenshots/konqueror.png  <~~KDE4 running on Edgy :P
[05:31] <Homer> superkarmba
[05:31] <Hawkwind> Homer: Very nice looking
[05:32] <Homer> thanks
[05:32] <Hawkwind> AWOSDev: Plus I have dual monitors too :)
[05:33] <AWOSDev> I have dual-monitors
[05:33] <AWOSDev> internal laptop and external display :P
[05:33] <AWOSDev> And yes I can do both at the same time
[05:34] <echo1> ooo
[05:34] <AWOSDev> but it only makes one display...
[05:34] <AWOSDev> >.<
[05:34] <AWOSDev> I'm sorry so so so sorry but
[05:34] <Homer> I'm using a laptop
[05:34] <AWOSDev> I need help with PLIP.
[05:34] <Homer> everything except video acceleration worked outside the box
[05:34] <Homer> including wifi :p
[05:35] <echo1> thats like me Homer
[05:35] <MasterEvilAce> homer: what brand?
[05:35] <Homer> MSI 1029
[05:35] <AWOSDev> Homer, your screenshot is still loading...
[05:35] <MasterEvilAce> anyone have a Dell laptop w/ working TV Out?
[05:35] <echo1> I have an Inspiron 6000
[05:35] <MasterEvilAce> i couldn't get tv out working for crap
[05:35] <echo1> Can someone explain to me what I need for widgets? (Im totally new to widgets)
[05:35] <MasterEvilAce> i could get the TV to flicker but that's it
[05:35] <MasterEvilAce> echo1: superkaramba
[05:36] <Homer> \yeah
[05:37] <Homer> I'll admit there isn't alot of widgets and many don't work
[05:37] <MasterEvilAce> and even less look good :)
[05:37] <Homer> but the ones on my desktop work perfectly
[05:37] <MasterEvilAce> the Aero glass ones look good
[05:37] <AWOSDev> Homer, PBIA?
[05:37] <AWOSDev> really?
[05:37] <AWOSDev> oops
[05:37] <echo1> the ones you have are all i can think i want
[05:37] <Homer> yeah
[05:37] <linuxkid2> So, does anyone know how to use PHP with Lighttpd? And I want a lightweight database, preferably SQLIte but I don't know how well that will work.
[05:37] <AWOSDev> I unplugged my laptop from the ethernet :P
[05:37] <Homer> I live near pbia
[05:37] <Homer> heh
[05:38] <AWOSDev> I'm somewhere in Palm Beach County (but that's as much as you're getting nowadays on IRC)
[05:38] <AWOSDev> anyway...
[05:38] <echo1> Homer what are your system info and weather widgets called?
[05:38] <AWOSDev> Can anyone here even tell me what PLIP is?
[05:38] <MasterEvilAce> never heard of PLIP
[05:39] <Homer> liquidweather and crystal status
[05:39] <AWOSDev> Ever heard of Interlink?
[05:39] <AWOSDev> Laplink?
[05:39] <AWOSDev> Direct Cable Connection?
[05:39] <MasterEvilAce> Direct cable connection yeah
[05:39] <AWOSDev> I'm trying to get a connection going between two laptops via the parallel port
[05:39] <AWOSDev> in Linux
[05:39] <Homer> oo
[05:39] <MasterEvilAce> that would be incredibly slow
[05:39] <Homer> that sounds complicated
[05:39] <AWOSDev> 50Kb/s
[05:40] <MasterEvilAce> i'd stick a screw driver in your parallel port to break it so you don't have to worry about it
[05:40] <AWOSDev> well it's a 1996 laptop
[05:40] <MasterEvilAce> bend all the pins
[05:40] <MasterEvilAce> that should stop you from wanting to mess with it :P
[05:40] <AWOSDev> There *are* no pins on the parallel port
[05:40] <linuxkid2> So, does anyone know how to use PHP with Lighttpd? And I want a lightweight database, preferably SQLIte but I don't know how well that will work.
[05:40] <AWOSDev> just the cable
[05:40] <AWOSDev> and I just bought the cable three hours ago
[05:40] <AWOSDev> so I'm not doing that :P
[05:40] <LeeJunFan> yay! edgy has no media:/ crap links
[05:40] <Homer> linuxkid2: apache and mysql that slow? :\
[05:41] <LeeJunFan> that crap was so annoying media:/ broke any non kde app, and 1/2 the kde ones as well.
[05:41] <AWOSDev> I just want to install FreeBSD on that darn 1996 laptop but sysinstall won't recognise my PCMCIA card
[05:41] <Homer> how is freebsd btw
[05:41] <linuxkid2> Homer: I just have an older machine. P3 450mhz 319MB RAM
[05:41] <Homer> I know people that swear by it
[05:41] <AWOSDev> I wouldn't know
[05:41] <Homer> oh
[05:41] <AWOSDev> It's not INSTALLED YET!!!!!
[05:41] <Homer> lol
[05:41] <AWOSDev> that's why I need the PLIP working
[05:41] <AWOSDev> so I can install it :)
[05:42] <AWOSDev> I have to set some options in the kernel to make my PCMCIA card work
[05:42] <AWOSDev> and can't do that until after it's installed
[05:42] <linuxkid2> Homer: I could try LAMP, and may, but I want to try Lighttpd first.
[05:42] <AWOSDev> That 1996 CD drive won't read burned discs
[05:42] <AWOSDev> and I AIN'T doin floppy disks :P
[05:42] <Homer> hmm never messed with anything other then apache and mysql with php
[05:42] <AWOSDev> sorry, by PCMCIA card I meant Ethernet PCMCIA card
[05:42] <Homer> "lamp"
[05:43] <AWOSDev> I'm wanting to try famp.
[05:43] <AWOSDev> FreeBSD Apache MySQL PHP :)
[05:43] <linuxkid2> AWOSDev: what are you trying to do with the computer anyways?
[05:43] <flavio> what do i do with '.deb' files?
[05:43] <AWOSDev> linuxkid2, which one?
[05:43] <Homer> llsp
[05:43] <AWOSDev> this lappy right here, is 2003 and I use it for games
[05:44] <linuxkid2> The freebsd laptop
[05:44] <AWOSDev> and Web browsing
[05:44] <AWOSDev> Oh that one, that's gonna be an Intranet server
[05:44] <Homer> ooo
[05:44] <AWOSDev> YES, I'm gonna use a 586/100 with Apache
[05:44] <AWOSDev> YES I'M CRAZY!  :P
[05:44] <linuxkid2> flavio: you should just use apt-get, but if you got the .deb from a third party, run sudo dpkg -i packagename
[05:44] <flavio> thanks man u rox
[05:44] <Homer> I compiled mysql on a 486 before
[05:44] <Homer> it took
[05:45] <Homer> 12 hours
[05:45] <AWOSDev> Yeah but that's what a 486/50
[05:45] <AWOSDev> so it would only take 6 hours on a 586/100
[05:45] <AWOSDev> :)
[05:45] <MasterEvilAce> omg the geeks show up around 12am
[05:45] <linuxkid2> flavio: where'd you get the package?
[05:45] <Homer> yeah I think it was like 30mhz or some shit
[05:45] <MasterEvilAce> all of you are geeks
[05:45] <Homer> and had 8mbs ram
[05:45] <AWOSDev> Yeah this one has 40MB RAM
[05:45] <AWOSDev> and I have the docking station with an ISA port!
[05:45] <AWOSDev> yes a laptop with an ISA card port!
[05:46] <AWOSDev> They don't make 'em like that anymore...
[05:46] <Homer> mysql ran on it tho
[05:46] <AWOSDev> 486/33?
[05:46] <AWOSDev> MySQL?
[05:46] <Homer> yep
[05:46] <AWOSDev> dang
[05:46] <AWOSDev> that would probably be s
[05:46] <AWOSDev> l
[05:46] <Homer> slow yes
[05:46] <AWOSDev> o
[05:46] <AWOSDev> w
[05:46] <AWOSDev> :)
[05:46] <Homer> very slow
[05:47] <MasterEvilAce> GEEK!
[05:47] <AWOSDev> Yeah well this is a 586/100 not a 486/33 so it's feasible right?
[05:47] <deadsoul> Does KeePass have Kubuntu package to be installed?
[05:47] <Homer> linux takes shitty hardware well
[05:47] <AWOSDev> MasterEvilAce, I'm not a geek until I tell you I still have (and use!) an 8088
[05:47] <Homer> but it will be slow
[05:47] <linuxkid2> So, about the lighttpd. Anybody know how to run PHP on it. I've looked into PHPWiki which is what I want to run, and it can use SQLite. But I can't get Lighttpd to work with PHP yet.
[05:47] <Homer> it won't crash or ne thing
[05:47] <AWOSDev> with the switch between 'normal' 4.77MHz and 'fast' 7.16MHz
[05:47] <AWOSDev> and the memory 'upgrade' from 512K to 640K
[05:48] <MasterEvilAce> turbo mode? lol
[05:48] <AWOSDev> and a 'humongous' 20MB (yes MEGAbytes) hard disk
[05:48] <AWOSDev> :)
[05:48] <Homer> I think linux can run on 386 too
[05:48] <linuxkid2> AWOSDev: can that thing run X? sounds unlikely.
[05:48] <AWOSDev> That was when 1GB was astronomical, reserved only for super-duper-supercomputers.
[05:48] <AWOSDev> linuxkid2: what the 8088?  UM...no
[05:49] <AWOSDev> the 586/100?  Probably but not gonna try
[05:49] <linuxkid2> what's an 8088?
[05:49] <Homer> old processor
[05:49] <AWOSDev> you're showing off the 'kid' of linuxkid2
[05:49] <AWOSDev> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8088
[05:49] <AWOSDev> and I wrote this article, the exact computer:
[05:49] <linuxkid2> I'm only 16
[05:49] <AWOSDev> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leading_Edge_Model_D
[05:49] <linuxkid2> cool
[05:49] <Homer> it from like the early 1980s I think
[05:49] <Homer> so no it won't run X
[05:50] <AWOSDev> an extremely popular IBM-compatible clone in it's day
[05:50] <Homer> X barely ran in late 1980s with shitty WMs
[05:50] <AWOSDev> 1/2/1988 is the purchase date IIRC
[05:50] <AWOSDev> I kept the receipt :P
[05:50] <Homer> The 8088 was introduced on July 1, 1979, and was used in the original IBM PC.
[05:50] <Homer> :P
[05:50] <flavio> linuxkid2:  hehehe sorry for highlighting u, i promise is the last question.. ive got a traceback with flash plugin: ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the Macromedia Flash Player installer.
[05:50] <linuxkid2> maybe you could EvilWM running on something from like 1988
[05:50] <flavio> u know something that fix this problem?
[05:50] <Makro___________> still disconnecting
[05:50] <Homer> barely
[05:51] <Homer> X was known to be bloated an slow
[05:51] <AWOSDev> I honestly didn't know X could run on an 8088
[05:51] <linuxkid2> flavio: I heard of a way of using chroot to run 32bit stuff on the 64bit system.
[05:51] <AWOSDev> dang what version of *nix would I use?
[05:51] <echo1> honestly the world is against me.  How does a WIDGET not install properly.  Liquid Weather just direst me to the site :/
[05:51] <AWOSDev> XENIX?
[05:51] <Homer> echo1: you havta dl it from the site
[05:51] <AWOSDev> Anyway enough down memory lane
[05:51] <linuxkid2> flavio: you can't compile it yourself, because it's closed source.
[05:52] <Homer> it not hard, I'm sure you done it on windows b4 :P
[05:52] <AWOSDev> can I laplink my two computers?
[05:52] <echo1> Homer, i seee
[05:52] <Homer> package management in linux makes us lazy
[05:52] <Homer> heh
[05:52] <flavio> i know.. :|
[05:52] <AWOSDev> Homer, compared to Windows, apt-get is like reading PowerPC assembly.
[05:53] <Homer> ?
[05:53] <AWOSDev> package management in Linux isn't nearly as lazy as in Windows is what I meant
[05:53] <Homer> power pc assembly is hard I'm guessing
[05:53] <MasterEvilAce> AWOSDev: GEEEEEEEEK!!!!
[05:53] <Homer> naa man
[05:53] <Homer> all I got to do is
[05:53] <AWOSDev> PowerPC assembly is very hard
[05:53] <Homer> apt-get install <package>
[05:53] <linuxkid2> I like apt. All your programs are in one place and downloadable just like that.
[05:53] <AWOSDev> and YES, MasterEvilAce, I am a geek
[05:54] <MasterEvilAce> AWOSDev: lol, indeed
[05:54] <Homer> on windows I gotta go to a website, find a DL link, follow a wizard, maybe even have to dl dependancies
[05:54] <Homer> and sometimes restart
[05:54] <AWOSDev> I'm writing my own OS, what do you think I'm not a geek?!  :P
[05:55] <Homer> while with one cmd I can the package downloaded, installed, with dependancies and even adds menu buttons
[05:55] <linuxkid2> Anyone have a favorite game? Just curios.
[05:55] <Homer> so uh how is that harder
[05:55] <Homer> ?
[05:55] <Homer> :p
[05:55] <AWOSDev> So can anybody help me with Parallel port networking?
[05:55] <AWOSDev> linuxkid2: I'd have to say TORCS, or maybe PlanetPenguin Racer.
[05:55] <Homer> nethack
[05:55] <Homer> seriously
[05:55] <Homer> nethack ftw
[05:56] <linuxkid2> PlanetPenguin, Nethack. I love it.
[05:56] <Homer> UT2004 :P
[05:56] <Homer> it runs on linux :)
[05:56] <linuxkid2> Hope PlanetPenguin works on my machine now I've installed the nvidia driver.
[05:56] <AWOSDev> See this line from the FreeBSD install manual:
[05:57] <linuxkid2> oh, well, see ya'll everybody. :D
[05:57] <AWOSDev> Important: If you use a Linux machine rather than a FreeBSD machine for your PLIP peer, you will also have to specify link0 in the TCP/IP setup screen's "extra options for ifconfig" field in order to be compatible with Linux's slightly different PLIP protocol.
[05:57] <AWOSDev> So PLIP IS available on Linux
[05:57] <AWOSDev> now I just have to find it... :)
[05:58] <MasterEvilAce> OK.. whomever said Pacman sucks earlier on was right.
[05:58] <MasterEvilAce> that version blowwwss
[05:58] <AWOSDev> MasterEvilAce, if you can recognize I'm a geek that must mean you're a geek too.
[05:58] <AWOSDev> So do you know anything about PLIP?
[05:58] <MasterEvilAce> lol no
[05:59] <AWOSDev> Can I make a rift in the space-time continuum and make it so that I can talk to people on here *from* 1996?
[05:59] <AWOSDev> PLIP hasn't really been widely used since then...
[06:00] <AWOSDev> I guess no one here knows how to make a rift in the space-time continuum
[06:00] <AWOSDev> :)
[06:00] <AWOSDev> cat /dev/random > /dev/space-time-continuum :P
[06:00] <AWOSDev> anywho
[06:01] <AWOSDev> I guess I just can't install FreeBSD onto that laptop :(
[06:04] <Homer> real men code operating systems Assembler using ed
[06:04] <Homer> in*
[06:04] <AWOSDev> I do
[06:04] <AWOSDev> :)
[06:04] <Homer> lies
[06:04] <Homer> :p
[06:04] <AWOSDev> it's an ASM/C mix
[06:04] <Homer> using ed?
[06:04] <AWOSDev> http://code.google.com/p/awos
[06:04] <AWOSDev> No not with ed
[06:04] <AWOSDev> but it's an ASM/C mix
[06:05] <AWOSDev> I'm thinking it isn't called PLIP in Linux
[06:05] <Homer> hmm
[06:05] <AWOSDev> what else could it be called?
[06:06] <AWOSDev> I need anybody to just shoot out random acronyms for a parallel port cable to connect two laptops together.
[06:08] <AWOSDev> Or maybe just Google "Linux PLIP howto"
[06:08] <AWOSDev> I'm such an n00b sometimes >.<
[06:09] <AWOSDev> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/PLIP.html
[06:09] <AWOSDev> Tada!
[06:11] <MasterEvilAce> wow.
[06:11] <MasterEvilAce> Worst. Geek. EVER.
[06:11] <MasterEvilAce> :P
[06:11] <emonkey> hm?
[06:12] <MasterEvilAce> not you emonkey :)
[06:12] <emonkey> oh thanks... ;)
[06:12] <AWOSDev> Worst geek ever for not Googling or for being a n00b sometimes?
[06:12] <MasterEvilAce> lol
[06:13] <MasterEvilAce> if you don't know.. google!
[06:13] <MasterEvilAce> step1: google ..  step2: ....   step3: rejoice
[06:13] <AWOSDev> :)
[06:13] <AWOSDev> Oh goodness
[06:14] <AWOSDev> I need a PLIP module!!!!!!!
[06:14] <AWOSDev> oh teh noes!
[06:14] <MasterEvilAce> LOL
[06:14] <MasterEvilAce> ROBBED
[06:14] <AWOSDev> last known module was for the 2.0.xx series in April 1998
[06:15] <AWOSDev> Is that even legal to use a 2.0.xx module in 2.6.xx?
[06:15] <MasterEvilAce> AWOS.. Possible to like.. take out the HD, get a little a adapter, and hook it up to your Tower, then transfer over the files you need to get PLIP working.. etc
[06:16] <AWOSDev> MasterEvilAce, I assume you're talking about the 1996 laptop
[06:16] <AWOSDev> it already has PLIP support
[06:16] <MasterEvilAce> oh
[06:16] <AWOSDev> I'm trying to get a 2003 laptop with Kubuntu 6.01
[06:16] <AWOSDev> to work with PLIP
[06:16] <AWOSDev> and no, that stupid hard disk caddy has a stripped screw
[06:16] <MasterEvilAce> lame.
[06:16] <AWOSDev> worked on it with a manual and drill screwdriver to no avail
[06:17] <AWOSDev> but it's just a standard IDE disk
[06:17] <AWOSDev> if I could get it out of the caddy, I could just plug it in as /dev/hdd
[06:17] <AWOSDev> (my tower already has hda, hdb, and hdc)
[06:18] <AWOSDev> I searched Synaptic (basically Adept) for 'PLIP'
[06:18] <AWOSDev> I got one result: 'net-tools'
[06:18] <AWOSDev> what is it?
[06:18] <AWOSDev> oh duh
[06:18] <AWOSDev> !net-tools > AWOSDev
[06:19] <MasterEvilAce> lol
[06:19] <AWOSDev> It gave me a little blurb
[06:19] <AWOSDev> I said "more please"
[06:19] <AWOSDev> (00:18:32) ubotu: Error: I haven't seen please.
[06:19] <AWOSDev> :P
[06:19] <photoguy> anyone know what this means? im trying to install flash in command line
[06:19] <photoguy> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:19] <MasterEvilAce> the lines before it are what you need to paste
[06:20] <MasterEvilAce> !paste
[06:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:20] <MasterEvilAce> if it's really long
[06:20] <AWOSDev> I'm just gonna continue with the HOWTO as if I already had the module :P
[06:22] <zenum> Hi, I have an ATI 9200 Pro and I can't seem to be able to install the proprietry drivers
[06:22] <zenum> I have looked through countless forums, and all seem to have similar instructions which don't seem to work
[06:22] <zenum> is there a known problem with the ATI linux drivers and this card?
[06:23] <AWOSDev> Radeon?
[06:23] <zenum> (I'm using dapper)
[06:23] <zenum> AWOSDev: yup
[06:23] <photoguy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24178
[06:24] <LeeJunFan> anyone here build a kernel with gcc 4.1.2 yet? I'm getting errors - trying 4.0 now.
[06:24] <photoguy> that was my problem
[06:24] <AWOSDev> zenum: you have xserver-xorg-driver-ati right?
[06:24] <Ekkostorm> Zenzum... try using Easy Ubuntu, that worked for me.  And after running that, I was able to switch to the proprietary drivers with a radio button...
[06:25] <zenum> I can get the normal ati driver... but that doesn't have 3d acceleration
[06:25] <zenum> it's when I try to use fglrx that it doesn't work
[06:26] <zenum> Ekkostorm: do you have this same card?
[06:26] <AWOSDev> Ha ha!
[06:26] <AWOSDev> http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au/lxr/source/drivers/net/plip.c
[06:26] <Ekkostorm> Not exactly, but I do have a 9000 series...
[06:26] <AWOSDev> It /is/ still in there somewhere1
[06:26] <AWOSDev> !
[06:27] <MasterEvilAce> photoguy: it says you already have the newest version (so it's already installed).. try removing it then installing again if you need to
[06:27] <photoguy> will do
[06:28] <zenum> Ekkostorm: I'll give Easy Ubuntu a go
[06:30] <Ekkostorm> Zenum: It automatically installs drivers for ati, as well as some other stuff... it's great.
[06:30] <MasterEvilAce> Anyone using Amarok and having trouble listening to a few of the default Internet radio streams? Such as digitally imported
[06:30] <AWOSDev> THAT'S IT.....
[06:30] <AWOSDev> Null-Modem cable
[06:30] <AWOSDev> Does anyone here know how to work a null-modem cable
[06:30] <AWOSDev> !
[06:30] <AWOSDev> ?
[06:30] <MasterEvilAce> lol
[06:30] <lupine_85> AWOSDev: plug one end into the first computer; the other end into the second computer
[06:31] <lupine_85> you're done
[06:31] <MasterEvilAce> !ubotu google
[06:31] <ubotu> google is a very popular search engine, http://www.google.com
[06:31] <lupine_85> !altavista
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about altavista - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <mark_> hawk
[06:31] <AWOSDev> lupine_85 I have them plugged in
[06:31] <lupine_85> that's search engine-ist, that is!
[06:31] <mark_> the crashing seems to have stopped
[06:31] <MasterEvilAce> ubotu is obviously biased
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is obviously biased - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <AWOSDev> I just can't get Linux to be a PLIP computer
[06:32] <AWOSDev> poor bot.... :)
[06:32] <lupine_85> are you trying to do TCP/IP over it?
[06:32] <mark_> im going to rebuild my kernel and see if it crashes
[06:32] <AWOSDev> lupine_85
[06:32] <MasterEvilAce> mark_ good luck
[06:32] <LeeJunFan> mark_: what'd you do to stop crashing?
[06:32] <AWOSDev> lupine_85 no I'm trying to install FreeBSD over it
[06:32] <AWOSDev> :)
[06:32] <AWOSDev> Oh
[06:32] <mark_> wiped my hard drive and reinstalled ubuntu
[06:32] <AWOSDev> yes I'm trying to use TCP/IP over it
[06:33] <zenum> Ekkostorm: hrmm it says its already installed.. which it is... just it won't boot up with fglrx in the xorg.conf gile
[06:33] <AWOSDev> I just found this http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apcs05.html.en so I'ma give it a go
[06:33] <zenum> but when i change it to ati in the .conf file it works fine (without 3D)
[06:33] <zenum> also modprobe fglrx gives a FATAL error
[06:33] <lupine_85> well, using PLIP over a serial cable isn't possible, to start with
[06:34] <AWOSDev> I'm trying to use PLIP over a parallel cable
[06:34] <lupine_85> ah.. a null-modem *printer* cable?
[06:34] <AWOSDev> Fine yes a null-modem printer cable :)
[06:34] <AWOSDev> Hey I just found http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/PLIP-Install-HOWTO-1.html
[06:34] <LeeJunFan> I haven't done PLIP since my Amiga days.
[06:35] <AWOSDev> that'll work - PLIIP in < 1 miunte :)
[06:35] <AWOSDev> LeejunFan: Yes I know it's old
[06:35] <lupine_85> assuminig the kernel modules are around :)
[06:35] <AWOSDev> but it's for a 1996 laptop
[06:35] <AWOSDev> :)
[06:35] <mark_> lee
[06:35] <mark_> i think this automatix package i installed earlier was causing the problem
[06:35] <AWOSDev> @(#%*&@(#%*&@(#*%&@($*%&(@$*%&@
[06:35] <lupine_85> ah, plip is around. You might need to modprobe it though
[06:35] <AWOSDev> insmod: can't read 'plip': No such file or directory
[06:36] <LeeJunFan> mark_: hrm, I wonder what part of it caused it... ?
[06:36] <mark_> dunno
[06:36] <lupine_85> here gives /lib/modules/2.6.17-7-generic/kernel/drivers/net/plip.ko
[06:36] <lupine_85> !plip
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <AWOSDev> Ah, modprobe worked!  thanks lupine_85!
[06:36] <mark_> all i know is ive never had this problem before i used automatix
[06:36] <lupine_85> presumably, you've now got an interface of some description
[06:36] <AWOSDev> tail /var/log/messages
[06:36] <AWOSDev> Oh man
[06:36] <mark_> im thinking it had something to do with the flash player it installed
[06:36] <AWOSDev> I ALT+TABed to IRC.  I was trying for Konsole.  sorry :)
[06:37] <lupine_85> hehe. plip is incredibly ancient
[06:37] <Ekkostorm> Zenum: Unfortunately, that is where my knowledge of the drivers end...
[06:37] <Ekkostorm> sorry...
[06:37] <AWOSDev> W00T!
[06:37] <AWOSDev> plip0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr FC:FC:C0:A8:00:02
[06:38] <lupine_85> hehe. presumably, it's "just another interface" now
[06:39] <AWOSDev> Yes it is but sysinstall(8) from FreeBSD won't recognise my Ethernet PCMCIA card without modifying kernel configuration which can't be done until after install
[06:39] <AWOSDev> so you can see an endless loop:
[06:39] <AWOSDev> install->needs configuration->needs install->needs configuration...
[06:39] <AWOSDev> Now I have to export my CD drive through NFS
[06:39] <AWOSDev> oh goody!
[06:39] <AWOSDev> NFS - another incredibly ancient technology
[06:40] <flaccid_> i thought nfs was good
[06:40] <LeeJunFan> AWOSDev: but still useful
[06:40] <flaccid_> or is that xfs
[06:40] <unix_infidel> write a new protocol.
[06:40] <LeeJunFan> flaccid_: it is, and isn't. It's crap for security purposes.
[06:41] <flaccid_> hmm so samba is the only secure network file system
[06:41] <LeeJunFan> I normally use iptables to only allow certain mac addresses to access my nfs stuff.
[06:42] <lupine_85> samba? secure?
[06:42] <lupine_85> can't see it
[06:42] <unix_infidel> flaccid_: that's not true.
[06:42] <AWOSDev> LOL Samba != Secure - just like Windows != Secure
[06:42] <AWOSDev> rpcinfo -p
[06:42] <lupine_85> CIFS is a bit better than Samba
[06:43] <lupine_85> not much
[06:43] <AWOSDev> Ah crap I've got to get better at this ALT+TAB stuff
[06:44] <MasterEvilAce> AWOSDev: Have you slept yet? :P
[06:44] <AWOSDev> MasterEvilAce: Um, today.
[06:44] <AWOSDev> :)
[06:44] <AWOSDev> I've been up for ~12 hours
[06:44] <AWOSDev> perfect
[06:45] <lupine_85> night everyone
[06:45] <AWOSDev> awilcox@Lappy:~$ whereis nfsd
[06:45] <AWOSDev> g'night lupine_85
[06:45] <AWOSDev> nfsd: /usr/share/man/man7/nfsd.7.gz
[06:45] <AWOSDev> The *only* thing that comes up is the manpage
[06:45] <AWOSDev> oh goody!
[06:46] <LeeJunFan> can someone here running edgy check /proc/version and let me know what gcc version ubuntu is using to build kernels with?
[06:46] <AWOSDev> Ah I got it
[06:46] <AWOSDev> need to put a 'sudo' before that sucker :P
[06:47] <flaccid_> well samba does use acl
[06:47] <flaccid_> i heard you can encrypt it
[06:47] <flaccid_> i'm just asking what is a secure network file system?
[06:48] <AWOSDev> o_O
[06:48] <AWOSDev> FreeBSD: "Unable to configure the plip0 interface!  This installation method cannot be used."
[06:48] <AWOSDev> @#(%^*&@$^(*@&#(%*&@(*#%&@$(%&*@(*$&%(@$*&%(*@&$%(*@&$%(*@$&%
[06:48] <AWOSDev> I'm going to go on the FreeBSD channel now :)
[06:49] <AWOSDev> under an assumed name, they hate me in there right now
[06:49] <AWOSDev> :P
[06:49] <MasterEvilAce> lol
[06:49] <AWOSDev> They think my 1996 laptop is "useless" and should be "thrown out with the rest of the junk" because it's not a 3.2GHz HT
[06:49] <AWOSDev> so I'll go under an assumed name
[06:49] <AWOSDev> VedSOWA?  :)
[06:50] <somebody_else> That'll work!  :)
[06:51] <somebody_else> Oh perfect.
[06:51] <somebody_else> "##FreeBSD is only open to nicks that are registered."
[06:52] <MasterEvilAce> ouch
[06:53] <arunkale> how do i get the sun java runtime environment?
[06:54] <arunkale> i tried getting it from adept, but it gets stuck
[06:54] <AWOSDev> !sun-java5-jre
[06:54] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 7169 kB, installed size 15768 kB
[06:54] <Hobbsee> !samba
[06:54] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:55] <flaccid_> wtf
[06:55] <arunkale> AWOSDev, how do i get it
[06:55] <flaccid_> my ip address on lan is 169.254.70.12
[06:55] <flaccid_> can someone tell me how this is possible
[06:55] <AWOSDev> arunkale, "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre" on the Konsole
[06:55] <arunkale> okay, thanks
[06:56] <AWOSDev> flaccid_ that's an Autoconfiguration IP Address (at least in Windows)
[06:56] <AWOSDev> that means no DHCP servers were available
[06:56] <flaccid_> rightio
[06:56] <flaccid_> i'm on a kubuntu notebook
[06:56] <flaccid_> best way to restart my eth1 ?
[06:57] <AWOSDev> ifconfig eth1 down
[06:58] <AWOSDev> ifconfig eth1 up
[06:58] <flaccid_> ok
[06:58] <flaccid_> brb
[06:59] <flaccid_> hectic
[06:59] <flaccid_> can you hear me, AWOSDev
[07:00] <flaccid_> it keeps getting the ip address, then straight away goes to the 169.
[07:01] <flaccid_> bound to 192.168.0.209 -- renewal in 9175 seconds.
[07:01] <flaccid_> failing to understand why
[07:01] <LeeJunFan> flaccid_: something on your network is handing out IP's for that range probably.
[07:02] <LeeJunFan> some windows machine.
[07:02] <flaccid_> its not seee ^^
[07:02] <LeeJunFan> flaccid_: then after that it goes to 169?
[07:02] <flaccid_> there is only 1 dhcp on network and thats a linux box giving 192.168.0.x addresses
[07:02] <flaccid_> yes
[07:02] <emonkey> knetworkamanger running?
[07:02] <mark_> no crash yet leejun
[07:03] <flaccid_> emonkey: i don't think so how can i check?
[07:03] <mark_> im running in a 686smp kernel atm btw
[07:03] <AWOSDev> Oh sorry yes I can hear you flaccid_ :P
[07:03] <LeeJunFan> guess I'll never run automatix - hehe.
[07:03] <AWOSDev> I'm in ##FreeBSD right now, sorry
[07:03] <AWOSDev> :)
[07:03] <flaccid_> the funny thing is my net works on this 169 address
[07:03] <emonkey> flaccid_, you know if its running....
[07:03] <flaccid_> np AWOS
[07:03] <mark_> if i finish compiling the kernel i'll know it was that thing's fault
[07:04] <LeeJunFan> flaccid_: how are you determining it's switching to 169? ie. how are you checking the IP?
[07:04] <emonkey> 169. is a standard for self-configuration networking
[07:04] <flaccid_> LeeJunFan: ifconfig
[07:04] <emonkey> under Linux too...there several tools and services which uses that
[07:04] <emonkey> if they're installed
[07:04] <LeeJunFan> flaccid_: and if you type 'ip route' what does it say your default GW is?
[07:05] <emonkey> knetworkmanager is one of them
[07:05] <flaccid_> default via 192.168.0.1 dev eth1
[07:05] <flaccid_> hmm what does that mean?
[07:05] <MasterEvilAce> time for me to sleep
[07:06] <mark_> im saving all the info from my kernel building and im gonna remove all the stuff that gives warnings or errors
[07:06] <LeeJunFan> flaccid_: it means that's the IP of your router, but how it can even talk to the 192.168 when it's set on 169 I don't know. hehe
[07:06] <ironfroggy> anyone know of any wireless routers that can actually connect to another router which would then have the net connection?
[07:06] <LeeJunFan> ironfroggy: any 2 routers which support WDS.
[07:06] <ironfroggy> i have my cable modem upstairs and want to avoid running cord downstairs to install just a few boxes.
[07:07] <ironfroggy> well, particularly, i know my current router has no settings to do that, and i dont know how to find out if any others can do it.
[07:07] <ironfroggy> what is WDS?
[07:07] <LeeJunFan> Wireless Distribution System.
[07:07] <LeeJunFan> Most all new routers do.
[07:07] <LeeJunFan> linksys, etc.
[07:08] <ironfroggy> what is some seperate system required?
[07:08] <flaccid_> LeeJunFan: yes its crazy. i'm on a 169 on the net...
[07:08] <ironfroggy> couldnt it just connect to ther other router like any other client?
[07:08] <LeeJunFan> It's a form of bridging which allows 2 or more AP's to connect to each other to expand the coverage of your wireless network.
[07:09] <LeeJunFan> ironfroggy: just needs 2 AP's which support WDS.
[07:09] <flaccid_> LeeJunFan: please look at my ip route output: http://pastebin.ca/178285
[07:11] <LeeJunFan> flaccid_: you have 2 IP's assigned to 1 device, it's an alias. like eth1 and eth1:1
[07:11] <flaccid_> this is pretty crazy
[07:12] <flaccid_> LeeJunFan: it doesn't come up like that in ifconfig
[07:12] <LeeJunFan> flaccid_: I don't know what's doing it, but it's common.
[07:12] <flaccid_> only eth1 is listed
[07:12] <LeeJunFan> flaccid_: ifconfig -a
[07:12] <flaccid_> its common?
[07:13] <LeeJunFan> flaccid_: not common to have it happen w/o knowing why, but I have aliases on my wireless device for my private IP and public IP as well.
[07:13] <flaccid_> yes only eth1 comes up in ifconfig -a. besides cipsec0 (vpn), eth0 (ethernet), lo, sit0
[07:13] <flaccid_> LeeJunFan: i have no aliases...
[07:13] <LeeJunFan> flaccid_: that's odd.
[07:13] <flaccid_> yeah
[07:13] <LeeJunFan> flaccid_: what's your /etc/network/interfaces look like?
[07:13] <flaccid_> its weird
[07:14] <LeeJunFan> flaccid_: you have vmware?
[07:15] <flaccid_> LeeJunFan: interfaces: http://pastebin.ca/178288
[07:15] <flaccid_> i havnt installed any vmware yet
[07:15] <LeeJunFan> oh, I wonder if the vpn is setting it?
[07:16] <arunkale> !frostwire
[07:16] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[07:16] <LeeJunFan> flaccid_: certainly nothing in the interfaces file out of the ordinary.
[07:16] <Josh_> arunkale
[07:16] <Josh_> i got a problem
[07:16] <flaccid_> LeeJunFan: i tested it with/without vpn, no difference
[07:16] <Josh_> it came up with this:
[07:16] <Josh_> dpkg: error processing flashplugin-nonfree (--configure):
[07:16] <Josh_>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[07:16] <Josh_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:16] <Josh_>  flashplugin-nonfree
[07:17] <arunkale> yeah, but you can run adept now
[07:17] <arunkale> that's just an error with the flash plugin
[07:17] <Josh_> how can i get tht flash plugin?
[07:19] <Josh_> arunkale: are you getting my pms?
[07:19] <ke> You've got PMS?!
[07:19] <Josh_> *pm's
[07:19] <ke> lol
[07:19] <arunkale> haha
[07:19] <ke> J/k...
[07:19] <AWOSDev> LOL
[07:19] <mark_> josh, i dunno, im having the same problem
[07:19] <arunkale> no man not getting them
[07:19] <AWOSDev> ROFL
[07:20] <Josh_> alright well nevermind the private messages
[07:20] <ke> Haha
[07:20] <ke> Created a monster
[07:20] <Josh_> adept says that flash is installed
[07:20] <Josh_> but it's not working
[07:20] <AWOSDev> haha you missed, didn't spell my nick right :P
[07:20] <mark_> uninstall it and use the installer on the website
[07:20] <mark_> bah
[07:21] <mark_> even got the capitalization this time
[07:21] <AWOSDev> Yes but I was ready and ducked into the FreeBSD channel :P
[07:22] <mark_> freeBSD got the axe didnt it?
[07:22] <arunkale> what do you mean by it'snot working
[07:22] <mark_> no wait that was opendarwin
[07:22] <Josh_> arunkale: when i use a website that requires flash it doesn't work
[07:23] <arunkale> Josh_: it's working for me
[07:23] <Josh_> arunkale the site requires flash 8, is that plugin flash 8?
[07:23] <arunkale> no man
[07:23] <arunkale> flash 8 isn't available for linux
[07:24] <arunkale> afaik
[07:24] <mark_> josh:we linux people only get the awesome flash 7
[07:24] <mark_> with special sound desync feature
[07:24] <Josh_> ooh so when does flash 8 come out? or is there an equivalent?
[07:24] <mark_> flash 9 comes out january next year
[07:24] <arunkale> it should be out a bit later
[07:24] <mark_> apparently santa is coming late for linux
[07:24] <Josh_> is there no equivalent for flash 8 for linux?
[07:24] <mark_> no
[07:25] <AWOSDev> Aw come on old St Nick bring it to us earlier!
[07:25] <flaccid_> LeeJunFan: i think i'll restart in a minute and see if it does it on boot
[07:25] <mark_> we're naughty for not asking for windows xp for christmas
[07:25] <LeeJunFan> flaccid_: yeah, see if it does it before you log in to kde maybe.
[07:26] <mark_> actually josh
[07:26] <mark_> if you go to ies4linux
[07:26] <Josh_> what is that?
[07:26] <arunkale> oh yeah
[07:26] <arunkale> ies4linux has flash 9
[07:26] <arunkale> that's internet explorer for linux
[07:26] <mark_> you can get internet explorer working on linux (badly tho)
[07:26] <arunkale> !ies4linux
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ies4linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <Josh_> arunkale: is that flashplugin pflash 7?
[07:27] <AWOSDev> That's IE4Linux
[07:27] <AWOSDev> !ie4linux
[07:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ie4linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <arunkale> dude, Internet Explorer for linux
[07:27] <mark_> lol awos
[07:27] <mark_> my turn
[07:27] <mark_> !bugs4linux
[07:27] <flaccid_> where is the homepage of this ie4linux
[07:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bugs4linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <AWOSDev> !google
[07:27] <ubotu> google is a very popular search engine, http://www.google.com
[07:28] <mark_> http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/index-en.html
[07:28] <mark_> there u go
[07:29] <mark_> a warning though, flash doesnt work terribly well with it
[07:30] <mark_> but it does work
[07:30] <flaccid_> oh its just IE under wine, big deal
[07:30] <flaccid_> i do that with crossover office
[07:30] <mark_> problem tho flaccid is ms has blocked you from downloading internet explorer using linux
[07:31] <mark_> or it did
[07:31] <flaccid_> mark_: how did they do that?
[07:31] <mello151> hey guys, what's broken today?
[07:31] <flaccid_> browser sniffing?
[07:31] <mark_> think so
[07:31] <mark_> not to mention wga
[07:31] <flaccid_> you can just spoof the UA string
[07:31] <flaccid_> all easily hacked but
[07:32] <mark_> hmm
[07:32] <flaccid_> wga is easier than ever to hack atm
[07:32] <flaccid_> may not be son
[07:32] <mark_> anyone have any ideas for the care of lIon batteries
[07:32] <flaccid_> soon
[07:33] <mark_> l-ion
[07:33] <flaccid_> http://batteryuniversity.com
[07:33] <mark_> whoo! thanks
[07:33] <flaccid_> did the link work?
[07:34] <flaccid_> ah it does. not a bad site
[07:34] <swtaarrs> i have an athlon x2, would be there any big speed advantage to using the amd64 version over i386 with a k7 kernel?
[07:34] <mark_> my brothers laptop's battery now holds a 30 minute max charge
[07:34] <mark_> but usually 15 minutes
[07:35] <mark_> dont want my baby ending up like that
[07:35] <LeeJunFan> mark_: there's nothing much you can do to revive them once they are bad, but keeping temps down, don't store them fully charged, etc... will help them last longer.
[07:36] <mark_> im doing my best to unplug it once it reaches a full charge
[07:36] <mark_> and at night i turn my laptop off and put it away for storage
[07:36] <LeeJunFan> best rule is to keep it 40-60% charged in the fridge. Unless you know you are going to be using it - then charge it up. Otherwise leave it out.
[07:37] <LeeJunFan> Unfortunately mine isn't easy to remove. I have to unscrew the panel on the bottom of my laptop and tug the cable out.
[07:38] <AWOSDev> LeejunFan: what kind of screwed-up laptop is that?
[07:38] <LeeJunFan> Sager
[07:38] <LeeJunFan> Clevo
[07:38] <AWOSDev> even my 1996 just has a little lever you pull
[07:38] <mark_> lol
[07:38] <mark_> was it made by ms?
[07:38] <LeeJunFan> Yeah, all the other laptops I've had were easy to pull batts, of course they all fell apart before I ever needed a new battery for one too - so I'm not complaining now.
[07:38] <AWOSDev> Even the old Compaq Aeros (way back in 1989) had that
[07:39] <AWOSDev> mark_ No actually it's a Compaq LTE 5150
[07:39] <mark_> eh
[07:41] <AWOSDev> eh what?  Compaq?
[07:41] <calcmandan> I installed armada 2 under wine.  when it starts up, i get the splash screen but then end up with this in konsole, http://pastebin.ca/178304.  I get a popup error saying, "Graphics initialization failed.  No compatible Direct3D8 hardware accelerator detected."  I do have a video card "GeForce MX 4000" and I do have 3D acceleration enabled.  I checked with my existing games and they are accelerated.  Any ideas?
[07:42] <LeeJunFan> owell, I'm off to bed, hopefully when I awake these kernels I'm trying to build will be finished - successfully. For some reason I haven't compiled a clean kern with edgy yet, with 2 compilers, I think my source tree was tainted - so starting from scratch.
[07:42] <mark_> whoo! newly rebuilt kernel done
[07:42] <mark_> brb
[07:42] <LeeJunFan> must need a 'make extraclean' or something hehe
[07:44] <Lunar_Raven> I have a question..is there any graphical ftp client for linux which will upload files in "auto mode"?
[07:44] <Lunar_Raven> so you dont have to switch back and fourth between ascii and binary?
[07:45] <AWOSDev> G'night LeejunFan.
[07:45] <AWOSDev> :)
[07:47] <swtaarrs> Lunar_Raven: if you're using kde you can enter ftp://username@host urls into konqueror
[07:47] <swtaarrs> i think it handles auto mode
[07:54] <AWOSDev> Does anyone here know how to get a null-modem printer cable working between Linux and FreeBSD?
[07:55] <AWOSDev> ANYBODY AT ALL!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
[07:55] <Makro___________> still disconnecting
[07:55] <Makro___________> i got this problem before in debian but i don remember how to fix it
[07:56] <wall0159> I'm having weird issues with amaroK, whereby it crashes when changing between mp4 files (but it plays them fine). I'm asking here because I don't think it's a problem with amaroK per se, but rather maybe with the xine engine. are there known issues with this?
[07:56] <overlimit> when trying to fix the permissions in k3b it changes the permissions for cdrao to 471
[07:56] <overlimit> no 710
[08:05] <InteliWasp> !vim
[08:05] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[08:05] <AWOSDev> !code
[08:05] <ubotu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs; KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello; GNOME: gvim, gedit, eclipse, pida
[08:05] <AWOSDev> !kdevelop
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdevelop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <AWOSDev> well then why did you offer it?
[08:06] <esc[1] > hi
[08:07] <bimberi_> !info kdevelop
[08:07] <ubotu> Package kdevelop does not exist in any distro I know
[08:09] <AWOSDev> Will you tell me about it for a
[08:09] <AWOSDev> !botsnack
[08:09] <ubotu> Yum!
[08:09] <AWOSDev> !info KDevelop
[08:09] <ubotu> Package kdevelop does not exist in any distro I know
[08:11] <noiesmo> http://www.kdevelop.org/
[08:15] <Leafw> if I add a user from the command line, such using 'useradd', will it have a proper login in the kdm as well for a graphical desktop?
[08:17] <horacio> Leafw: yes
[08:19] <Leafw> horacio : thanks
[08:21] <kraut> moin
[08:21] <AWOSDev> moin?
[08:21] <AWOSDev> You said that on ##FreeBSD too?
[08:21] <AWOSDev> What is it?
[08:22] <AWOSDev> is it a signal?
[08:22] <esc[1] > jo moin och...
[08:22] <AWOSDev> och?  Is this like some other freaky language?
[08:23] <esc[1] > no freaky language... it's luxembourgish but "moin" is used in some parts of germany too, i think ;-)
[08:24] <AWOSDev> So is that like 'good morning'?
[08:24] <esc[1] > right...
[08:26] <mark_> !kde
[08:26] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[08:30] <esc[1] > I do currently have some printing problems: I have a HP Officejet 5510 (using the driver hpijs for 5500 series) connected to a kubuntu 6.06 box using cups. printing works fine. when I try to print on that printer from a ubuntu 6.06 box via network, using the same driver, it only prints "$$" to the top left corner on the page... anybody has any idea?
[09:13] <arunkale> !frostwire
[09:13] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:14] <intelikey> shalom
[09:15] <intelikey> is there an app that will center the display ?
[09:15] <arunkale> ?
[09:15] <intelikey> when frame buffering is enabled it's always off center.
[09:15] <arcasa> How do I use a terminal to upgrade my kernel?
[09:16] <intelikey> arcasa sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:17] <intelikey> assuming you don't mean roll your own kernel...
[09:18] <intelikey> is there an app that will center the display ?
[09:18] <arcasa> No I just need the most current kernel... Nvidia drivers are giving me cheek.
[09:21] <intelikey> what's the easiest way to see if you are inside of x or not  ???   $DISPLAY  ???
[09:22] <intelikey> shoot.  anybody around that knows anything ?
[09:23] <mindspin> intelikey: what do you mean with "inside x" ?
[09:23] <intelikey> :)
[09:24] <fildo> !seen flaccid
[09:24] <ubotu> I last saw flaccid (n=flaccid@CPE-124-177-23-165.vic.bigpond.net.au) 1d 19h 4m 23s ago, quiting: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
[09:24] <intelikey> within xorg
[09:24] <intelikey> but if you had to ask i don't expect an answer.
[09:24] <Pensacola> I'm about to reinstall windows and I was wondering what section of the website https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-bf3232f10ddf1b078de064622ccbb25225cdb3c0 I need
[09:25] <Pensacola> will super grub loader do the job?
[09:25] <intelikey> Pensacola you reinstalling windows beside linux ?
[09:25] <Pensacola> jep
[09:25] <mindspin> you are "inside x" if you have a GUI and can move your mouse ;-)
[09:25] <Pensacola> I installed kubuntu after windows, but now my windows broke itself
[09:26] <intelikey> mindspin thank you.
[09:26] <intelikey> Pensacola you will have to follow the portion about fixing grub yes.  that should be all
[09:27] <Pensacola> ok so if I burn super grub disk to a cd, boot from it and press fix grub that should be all
[09:27] <intelikey> i personally have never tried that.  (i don't use grub)  but yes. that should be.
[09:28] <Pensacola> ok thanks for the help
[09:28] <Pensacola> brb :)
[09:28] <intelikey> npp
[09:28] <Pensacola> from now on windows will only be for gaming
[09:28] <intelikey> :)
[09:30] <intelikey> mindspin if you'd like to help me just a sec.  would you please type this back at me?      /exec -o echo "$DISPLAY"
[09:31] <crazy_penguin> Good day all!
[09:32] <intelikey> hey
[09:32] <crazy_penguin> Good day all! :)
[09:37] <mindspin> sorry was afk
[09:38] <mindspin> intelikely, first what are you trying? remote x over ssh or do you have problems with alocal machine
[09:38] <intelikey> no
[09:39] <mindspin> no what both?
[09:39] <intelikey> i'm scripting something and wanted a simple test for within/without x
[09:39] <mindspin> you wanna test if x is running or not within the script?
[09:40] <intelikey> no i want to test if the script is being called from within x or not
[09:40] <intelikey> but i already got it.
[09:40] <intelikey> thanks just the same.
[09:41] <intelikey> answer== [ -z "$DISPLAY" ]  && blah
[09:42] <intelikey> or the inverse of that; [ ! -z "$DISPLAY" ]  && blah
[09:43] <intelikey> the verable is null in the console  but set by the xserver.    i wanted something x specific not kde specific.
[09:43] <mindspin> ok thats way beyond my knowledge
[09:44] <intelikey> not any more.  now you know.
[09:44] <intelikey> :)
[09:44] <plugs> how do i connect to my network printer?
[09:45] <intelikey> cups ?
[09:45] <intelikey> !cups
[09:45] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:46] <motorcitymadman> !scan
[09:46] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[09:47] <intelikey> mindspin so from now on if someone asks "howto tell if within x?"  you can answer  test for "$DISPLAY"  :)
[09:47] <mindspin> I never heard such aquestion before and it sonded very newbie to me ;-)
[09:48] <mindspin> sounded even
[09:50] <intelikey> yeah.  the fool is the twin of the wise.  always look close before you deside which brother you are addressing.
[09:52] <intelikey> as to the "move the mouse" adivce you gave.  i knew that you had not used "gpm"   mouse works in the linux console, so that test is moot.
[09:52] <mindspin> but moving around was the keyword ;-)
 but moving around was the keyword ;-)
[09:52] <intelikey> yep
[09:53] <intelikey> like i just moved it, held down the left button and highlighted that text and then right button pasted it back at you.    and i'm in a console.  not X
[09:56] <mindspin> intelikey: you are right, you can work with the mouse in console, but you cannot move around the cursor/pointer...
[09:56] <intelikey> mindspin yes i can
[09:56] <intelikey> that's what i just did.
[09:56] <mindspin> ok you can
[09:57] <mindspin> Ionly can highlight, copy and paste things (with a three button mouse)
[09:57] <intelikey> on two button mice.  hit both buttons for the middle on.
[09:57] <intelikey> one
[09:58] <mindspin> its years ago when I did this ...
[09:58] <mindspin> maybe there#s atwo button mouse somwhere here...
[09:59] <intelikey> mindspin i also watch vidios in the console.
[10:00] <intelikey> graphic web browsing,
[10:00] <Infecto> hey how in aptitude kept the package
[10:00] <Infecto> i dont want to upgrade
[10:00] <Infecto> it
[10:00] <intelikey> Infecto read the online help
[10:01] <mindspin> intelikey: to be honest, I only use console on servers and remote connections over the internet
[10:01] <Linux_Galore> anyone seen a stable package of konversation for kubuntu
[10:01] <Linux_Galore> not 0.19 but the new 1.0 release
[10:01] <intelikey> mindspin to be honest. i only start X once in a while
[10:02] <Infecto> intelikey: i put h but nothings happend
[10:02] <intelikey> Infecto i don't use aptitude    sorry.
[10:03] <intelikey> Infecto iirc  it should have marked the package "ih   package-name "
[10:04] <intelikey> or is it  'hi  blah '    like i said, i don't use aptitude.
[10:04] <intelikey> but an i for installed and an h for hold  if i recall correctly
[10:05] <Infecto> ok
[10:05] <Infecto> F
[10:05] <Infecto> i think that will stay may package
[10:05] <Infecto> leave
[10:06] <intelikey> Infecto the key is  "="    like i said read the online help.      "=":          Hold a package in its current version to prevent upgrades.
[10:08] <Infecto> o
[10:08] <Infecto> hm okej
[10:08] <Infecto> it works
[10:08] <intelikey> or command   aptitude hold blah    marks blah as a held package
[10:09] <intelikey> both of which i gleaned from aptitude -h   and  "aptitude"  then  "?"
[10:10] <intelikey> never even opened the man page
[10:12] <Infecto> i read ?  so many times and i dont se = now i se
[10:12] <Infecto> mannn
[10:12] <Infecto> i`m so blind ;)
[10:12] <Infecto> : is better :)
[10:13] <intelikey> yeah.  i litterally need some perscription glasses.   but i use these reading glasses
[10:14] <intelikey> without them the screen is just pretty coloured lines.....
[10:14] <Infecto> i just kidding with this glasses :) but the truth is i can`t read doc :)
[10:14] <Infecto> i can`t== i don` read it good
[10:15] <intelikey> Infecto one key to reading  on line helps  is to not scan the keys  scan the discriptions.  look for what you want to do then look at how it says to do it.
[10:16] <intelikey> and knowing how things are commonly said in linux terms helps considerably
[10:21] <intelikey> oh poop
[10:21] <intelikey> no pcm suport.  what good is a sound card with out pcm
[10:21] <Zvezdichko> good morning intelikey  :)
[10:21] <intelikey> Zvezdichko
[10:22] <Zvezdichko> oh, yes ( probably not morning there )
[10:22] <intelikey> i'll have to rebuild this kernel...
[10:22] <Zvezdichko> why?
[10:22] <intelikey> yes early morning here.
[10:22] <intelikey> no pcm support
[10:22] <intelikey> time 03;22
[10:22] <Zvezdichko> hm... load the module
[10:22] <Infecto> intelikey: thanks for the helping me :)
[10:23] <Zvezdichko> time : 11:22
[10:23] <intelikey> no module support and no modules
[10:23] <intelikey> Infecto any time.
[10:23] <Zvezdichko> blah... this is kinda silly
[10:24] <intelikey> Zvezdichko it's a stand alone kernel  it will load from a cd and root will be on the hd
[10:24] <plugs> is there a way to have openoffice autocapitalize "i"?
[10:24] <Zvezdichko> because of the harddisk space, huh?
[10:24] <intelikey> partly
[10:25] <Zvezdichko> a recompiled linux kernel should be about 1 mb - enought to fit on a diskette
[10:25] <intelikey> 70m for a kernel and it's modules is a lot when 600m is the limit
[10:25] <intelikey> 1.9m
[10:26] <intelikey> without modules i have to build in support for all hardware.
[10:26] <intelikey> all my hardware.
[10:26] <Zvezdichko> better collect money for a new machine
[10:27] <intelikey> but 1.9m is still less than half the size of the initrd.img that is default on *buntu
[10:27] <intelikey> :)
[10:27] <intelikey> collect money....   101
[10:27] <Zvezdichko> yes, like me... one penny here, one there
[10:28] <Zvezdichko> that's how I bought my machine
[10:28] <Zvezdichko> fighting with poverty
[10:28] <Zvezdichko> :)
[10:30] <Zvezdichko> hm... Professional Beggers is new to me
[10:31] <insanekane> plugs: you probably have to enable autocorrection
[10:31] <insanekane> plugs: its in Tools
[10:32] <plugs> i tried that, it's enabled.
[10:33] <kraut> is it possible to switch a running debian-system in runtime from debian to ubuntu?
[10:33] <intelikey> kraut man pivot-root
[10:34] <intelikey> or is that not what you mean ?
[10:34] <kraut> intelikey: i don't know what i want. i am fed up with debian and i want to switch a running server from debian to ubuntu via remote.
[10:35] <intelikey> kraut then i better hush and stay out of that.   i'm networking illeterate
[10:36] <intelikey> or just ignorant.   maybe just plain ignorant.
[10:36] <intelikey> idk
[10:36] <intelikey> see that proves it....
[10:37] <Zvezdichko> make config :)
[10:37] <intelikey> Zvezdichko eewh
[10:38] <intelikey> make menuconfig
[10:38] <intelikey> unless you do it from x
[10:43] <arunkale> There was some error in installing the 'flashplayer-nonfree' plugin during update, and now i can't install or uninstall anything coz apt is apparently running to fix the problem
[10:43] <arunkale> Please help!
[10:44] <arunkale> Healot, help!
[10:44] <emonkey> arcasa,
[10:44] <emonkey> sorry false highlight
[10:44] <emonkey> arunkale, please be patient
[10:45] <emonkey> try typing: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:45] <intelikey> arunkale apt-get install -f    and pastebin the error
[10:45] <intelikey> and yes root that ^
[10:46] <arunkale> emonkey: i did that
[10:46] <arunkale> but it gives me an error installing flashplayer-plugin
[10:47] <jollyroger> Witam
[10:47] <jollyroger> :-)
[10:47] <emonkey> arunkale, pastebin the error
[10:47] <jollyroger> jestem nowy w kubuntu
[10:48] <jollyroger> I'm new in kubumtu
[10:49] <jollyroger> I'd like to create a new partition, but don't know where's GUI app to do that
[10:49] <jollyroger> :/
[10:49] <Healot> !info qtparted
[10:49] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 198 kB, installed size 704 kB
[10:50] <jollyroger> so I should do: sudo apt-get install qtparted >?
[10:50] <Healot> no :)
[10:51] <arunkale> emonkey, intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24208
[10:51] <jollyroger> I've got it :D
[10:52] <jollyroger> looks pretty nice, thanx
[10:52] <eeos> hi all there.
[10:52] <eeos> does anyone now about a parametric 3D modeller that works under kubunu?
[10:53] <Healot> blender?
[10:53] <eeos> Healot is blender parametric?
[10:54] <Healot> it's a 3D renderer at least, i don't understand what is "parametric"
[10:54] <arunkale> emonkey?
[10:54] <jollyroger> I don't see ext3 (jfs) file system option while creating partition with qtparted... Did I miss sth ?
[10:55] <emonkey> arunkale, atm no idea sorry
[10:55] <emonkey> maybe the file's corrupted
[10:56] <Skrot> Which kubuntu version do I want for a Core 2 Duo CPU?
[10:56] <Healot> both i386 or AMD64
[10:56] <arunkale> emonkey: so how do i terminate it? anytime i try to install anything it gets stuck because apt keeps trying to get that package
[10:56] <Skrot> Which is the "best"?
[10:56] <intelikey> i386 is not smp  i686 is smp
[10:56] <Healot> Skrot: define "best"
[10:56] <Skrot> i386 if I want 32-bit and AMD64 if I want 64-bit?
[10:56] <Healot> yes...
[10:57] <Healot> since C2D is 64-bit x86 CPU, it doesnt really matter if you use 32-bit or 64-bit kernel
[10:58] <Skrot> okay.. so they should perform ~the same?
[10:58] <Skrot> kubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso it is then :)
[10:58] <Healot> of course not. there are always differences in user experience
[10:58] <emonkey> arunkale, try: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:58] <knubbe> id like to dual-boot between dapper and edgy, is that possible to have both installed?
[10:58] <Skrot> humhum :)
[10:58] <jollyroger> Is it possible to create ext3 filesystem partition with qtparted ?
[10:58] <eeos> Healot parametric is when all shapes you create are built from parameters, so that when you modify one of the parameters the shapes and all the shapes that are parametrically connected do change automatically
[10:59] <eeos> wait Healot this is the article on wikipedia
[10:59] <Healot> eeos: really i don't care, just try blender first, you'll see
[10:59] <eeos> Healot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parametric_feature_based_modeler
[10:59] <eeos> Healot ah! ok!
[10:59] <arunkale> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[11:00] <intelikey> ok goig to test the new kernel.
[11:00] <arunkale> i got it to work now
[11:00] <arunkale> thanks
[11:01] <main2> i cant get my display on 1280x1024
[11:01] <main2> http://pastebin.ca/178416
[11:01] <main2> the nvidia driver is ok (glx accel is on), the gdm manager starts in 1280x1024
[11:02] <main2> but then KDE goes back to 1024x768, has this anything to do with the virtual screen?
[11:02] <Pensacola> kubuntu definately is better than windows :)
[11:03] <main2> Pensacola: linux owns
[11:03] <Pensacola> yeah, windows doesn't recognize my onboard audio and network card
[11:03] <Pensacola> I'm gonna have to find the cd's :s
[11:04] <arunkale> how do i unpackage tar.gz files
[11:04] <intelikey> it takes me that long to reboot and connect.
[11:04] <main2> Pensacola: dont even waste ur time installing it
[11:04] <intelikey> tar -xf filen.tar.gz
[11:04] <Pensacola> I need it for gaming :)
[11:04] <main2> arunkale: well, thats really easy
[11:04] <Skrot> intelikey: So, if I install i386 versionn, and then upgrade to i686 kernel, do I need to upgrade a lot of packages to i686-optimized versions or whatnot as well?
[11:04] <main2> tar -zxvf file.tar.gz
[11:04] <arunkale> thanks :)
[11:04] <Pensacola> if more games were made for linux, windows would be gone on my system
[11:05] <Healot> Pensacola: that's not going to happen yet :)
[11:05] <main2> Pensacola: i stay with ID games at the moment...... Doom III / Quake 4
[11:05] <intelikey> Skrot no. it shouldn't make any differance on most packages.
[11:05] <Pensacola> I'm a patient guy :)
[11:05] <Skrot> intelikey: How about c++ libs etc?
[11:05] <main2> Pensacola: checkout classic doom for doom3...
[11:05] <main2> its insane good
[11:05] <Pensacola> brb
[11:06] <intelikey> Skrot mmm that i can't sware to.
[11:06] <Skrot> okay :)
[11:06] <Skrot> Guess I'll figure it out
[11:06] <intelikey> Skrot print the error and we'll go from there   :)
[11:06] <Skrot> sounds like a plan ;)
[11:07] <jita> how stable is the egdy knot 3 release?
[11:08] <Healot> since it's a development, it is not suppose to be stable
[11:08] <intelikey> i have an issue that i don't know what the deal is.   no sound.  dsp0 is there but it's like pcm is muted and guess what   pcm doesn't appear in  aumix  all the other stuff does.
[11:09] <intelikey> alsamixer requires alsa-utils which depends on the kernel and i don't have a kernel installed so no alsamixer
[11:10] <intelikey> cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp   is silent
[11:11] <intelikey> wait.  i think i may have found it.  three cards and one is dummy.  the first of course.
[11:22] <intelikey> well that was it.  just making symlinks to mixer2 and dsp2 fixed the default sound card
[11:24] <intelikey> now if i can fix the js i'll have every thing in a less than 2m kernel that needs no modules and does frame buffering
[11:26] <eeos> does anyone now about a parametric 3D modeller that works under kubuntu?
[11:27] <gourdin> hi there
[11:27] <mastrogimli> need italian support
[11:27] <gourdin> How do I change gnome font configuration in kde ?
[11:28] <intelikey> eeos apt-cache search  is your friend
[11:28] <Healot> !it
[11:28] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:28] <mastrogimli> grazie
[11:28] <gourdin> if I launch gnome-settings-daemon, it changes some kde fonts
[11:29] <intelikey> anyone know anything about joy stick setup ?
[11:30] <soeni05> Give me -o please
[11:30] <eeos> intelikey already done it in all the possible combinations :(
[11:30] <soeni05> check this out #mojn torrents free GPL Asian Porn
[11:30] <eeos> intelikey or I would NOT have asked
[11:30] <PornBot> yes
[11:30] <intelikey> eeos that's the best i can do for you.   sorry
[11:31] <eeos> intelikey :)
[11:31] <soeni05> I can hepe You
[11:31] <eeos> intelikey what a consultant! with all the money we give you! :D
[11:31] <soeni05> come to #mojn and i will helpe u...
[11:32] <intelikey> eeos prezactly.  but beyond that.  i'm not even part of the "ubuntu" team  L(
[11:32] <eeos> intelikey :)
[11:33] <soeni05> Kubuntu is moving to #mojn pleas join for further information New Update On-site
[11:33] <soeni05> check this out #mojn torrents free GPL Asian Porn
[11:33] <arunkale> anyone know any good p2p clients for kubuntu?
[11:33] <soeni05> Radio #mojn
[11:33] <jita> lol
[11:33] <soeni05> Look at #mojn
[11:34] <arunkale> ?
[11:34] <Healot> no operator anyways :p
[11:34] <intelikey> arunkale gaim ?
[11:34] <steff> stfu ffs soeni05!
[11:34] <soeni05> its a very good client
[11:34] <jita> no admin in here?
[11:34] <soeni05> its a very good client
[11:34] <arunkale> gaim is a chat client, right
[11:34] <eeos> arunkale a client for what?
[11:34] <soeni05> Yiir right..
[11:34] <intelikey> jita !ops   if you think they should be called
[11:35] <soeni05> !op
[11:35] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak or Hawkwind
[11:35] <arunkale> !p2p
[11:35] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network). BitTorrent: see !torrent Direct connect: try valknut. Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[11:35] <soeni05> We live in peace
[11:35] <soeni05> #mojn
[11:35] <intelikey> arunkale gaim == gnu aim   and it does irc also
[11:35] <arunkale> i dont want an irc client man
[11:37] <intelikey> gnutella
[11:38] <arunkale> am trying out phex
[11:39] <intelikey> telnet
[11:39] <intelikey> hehhe
[11:43] <arunkale> ktorrent seems cool
[11:45] <intelikey>     arunkale you've heard me say i am network illiterate   so if i dont even know what "p2p client" means i guess you'll beleave me now.  ;/
[11:45] <arunkale> haha
[11:46] <intelikey> as far as i know  ssh and telnet are p2p
[11:46] <arunkale> ok
[11:46] <arunkale> brb
[11:49] <intelikey> actually i think i was transposing ims/p2p ...  not that it matters.
[11:55] <esc[1] > I do currently have some printing problems: I have a HP Officejet 5510 (using the driver hpijs for 5500 series) connected to a kubuntu 6.06 box using cups. printing works fine. when I try to print on that printer from a ubuntu 6.06 box via network, using the same driver, it only prints "$$" to the top left corner on the page... anybody has any idea?
[11:57] <intelikey> esc[1]  checked   !cups   ?
[11:58] <esc[1] > yep... somebody typed that some minutes ago... I checked those urls just now... :-(
[11:59] <MidMark> !flash
[11:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:00] <Isoss> hi guys ... I need a good kde program for burning ISOs to make image CDs any suggestion?
[12:00] <MidMark> k3b
[12:00] <esc[1] > intelikey: problem: connection to the printserver seems to work from the client... I see the jobs on the server, and at least it prints sth... (those "$$" signs)
[12:00] <Isoss> thanx
[12:01] <MidMark> guys how to bypass flash update issue?
[12:01] <intelikey> routing, firewall, cups server settings, linux security settings... among other things could affect that esc[1]     you are talking about a network issue of some sort.   out of my league
[12:02] <MidMark> ok wait for the update right?
[12:03] <intelikey> i don't know anything, i'm just setting in this channel keeping y'all company
[12:03] <esc[1] > intelikey: both are fresh installs, nothing new installed or configured.
[12:05] <intelikey> esc[1]  can you access the one box from the other and vise versa ?   ssh  or anything ?
[12:06] <intelikey> esc[1]  also you might find help in  #ubuntu
[12:08] <esc[1] > i'll try that this afternoon... now it's this time for some fast-food... cya l8er
[12:08] <intelikey> k good luck with it
[12:10] <intelikey> every body hide, it's Jucato_
[12:10] <Jucato_> huh? what? err...
[12:11] <intelikey> gooday at ya Jucato_
[12:11] <Jucato_> good day to you two
[12:11] <Jucato_> er... s/two/too
[12:11] <intelikey> both of me ?
[12:11] <Jucato_> heh...
[12:12] <Jucato_> looks like everybody did hide
[12:12] <intelikey> wasnt anyone talking.
[12:12] <intelikey> been pretty quiet in here
[12:12] <Jucato_> aah
[12:14] <intelikey> esc[1]  has network cups issue  but i'm network illiterate    that's about all that's been happening here for a while
[12:14] <Jucato_> ah... networking, internet, and printing... my waterloo, my achilles' heel, my kryptonite...
[12:14] <snikker> is possible choose the x server type at login?
[12:15] <yvonne___> Hello
[12:15] <yvonne___> i was wondering if anyone can help me
[12:15] <zorglu_> snikker: yep, it is called 'session' in the menu
[12:15] <yvonne___> i'm trying to install real player, and every time i do it just tells me that it's BREAK (instal;l)
[12:15] <intelikey> snikker there is one xserver.  xorg   you mean window manager/display manager ?
[12:16] <intelikey> !realplay
[12:16] <snikker> zorglu_: yes, i know, but how can i choose i run xorg server or Xgl server
[12:16] <ubotu> realplay: RealPlayer 10 for Linux is based on the open source Helix player.. In component main, is optional. Version 10.0.8-0ubuntu1 (dapper-commercial), package size 6110 kB, installed size 15456 kB (Only available for i386)
[12:16] <snikker> intelikey: i mean xorg server
[12:16] <Jucato_> yvonne___: how are you installing it? from what repository and what package name?
[12:17] <intelikey> snikker explain ?
[12:17] <zorglu_> snikker: by configuring it :) i dunno the xgl config by heart tho, but this part is usual explained in the tutorial. it was in the one i followed at leaast
[12:17] <yvonne___> I'm downloading it using adept manager, and tried it via apt-get install etc, the package name is realplayer when runa  search under adapt manger
[12:17] <yvonne___> intelikey:
[12:17] <zorglu_> smell like license agreement looking for a ok which never find :)
[12:18] <snikker> intelikey: i want choose if run xorg server or xgl server...
[12:18] <Jucato_> yvonne___: try installing it from the command line to get more "descriptive" error messages: "sudo apt-get install realplayer"
[12:19] <snikker> zorglu_: but what i must configure...
[12:19] <zorglu_> hmm kded got buggy on me, rebooting
[12:19] <Jucato_> yvonne___: once you get those messages, use !pastebin
[12:19] <intelikey> snikker set it up in the runlevel.  then boot with the runlevel appended that you want.
[12:19] <Jucato_> !pastebin > yvonne___
[12:19] <zorglu_> snikker: you may look at the xgl page on ubuntu-fr.org, this is french and use google to translate, it was in it when i tried
[12:20] <yvonne___> Jucato_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24221
[12:21] <intelikey> i.e.  runlevel 2 == xorg    runlevel 3 == xgl   runlevel 4 == console only     then  boot with    2     or   3  ....       runlevels are easily configurable.    man update-rc.d
[12:21] <snikker> intelikey: but in this way i must choose it at boot time, that's right?
[12:21] <intelikey> snikker yes  at boot
[12:21] <intelikey> you can setup grub with the options
[12:22] <intelikey> or you could.   write a script that asks which to start  and stick it in the init scripts
[12:22] <Jucato_> gah! my internet connection is playing games on me...
[12:22] <yvonne___> Jucato_: lol
[12:23] <snikker> intelikey: ok, i can try with this way. thanks :)
[12:23] <intelikey> #!/bin/sh
[12:24] <Jucato_> grr... can't connect to pastebin!!!
[12:24] <yvonne___> shall i paste it in here?
[12:24] <intelikey> read -n 1 -p "press 1 to start with xgl,  or press 2 to start with xorg" ANSWER
[12:24] <Jucato_> yvonne___: no
[12:24] <yvonne___> Jucato_: ok
[12:25] <yvonne___> ummmm
[12:25] <Jucato_> yvonne___: hold on I think it's loading now...
[12:25] <intelikey> [ "$ANSWER" == 1 ]  && blah || blah
[12:25] <yvonne___> Jucato_: Cool
[12:25] <Jucato_> ... or not...
[12:25] <yvonne___> lol
[12:25] <Jucato_> yvonne___: can you try pasting it here: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/
[12:27] <snikker> intelikey: where i must put the script?
[12:28] <yvonne___> Jucato_: sure
[12:28] <intelikey>  /etc/init.d/    and symlink it to /etc/rc2.d/S99options    but remove the link to kdm in that same dir
[12:28] <yvonne___> Jucato_: thanks
[12:29] <intelikey> vertual abuse 101
[12:29] <yvonne___> Jucato_: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/121
[12:29] <yvonne___> Jucato_: lol
[12:29] <snikker> intelikey: ok, thanks :)
[12:30] <yvonne___> how long has this pastebin concept been about 4?
[12:30] <Jucato_> yvonne___: as long as I can remember :P
[12:30] <intelikey> snikker  man update-rc.d    might be a good read on that point
[12:30] <intelikey> you're welcome
[12:30] <Jucato_> !realplayer > Jucato_
[12:31] <snikker> intelikey: i read also the man, of course :)
[12:31] <MDCore> When I middle click a link in firefox it opens in a new tab and in the current tab. How do I get it to _not_ open in the current tab ?
[12:32] <yvonne___> Jucato_: anything come 2 mind?
[12:32] <Jucato_> yvonne___: do you have the dapper-commercial repository?
[12:32] <yvonne___> Ummm not sure
[12:33] <Jucato_> hold on, let me try looking for a wiki page about it
[12:33] <zorglu_> q. what is the dpkg command to determine if i got  appache installed ?
[12:34] <Jucato_> ugh... so maybe it's not my internet connection after all...
[12:34] <yvonne___> Jucato_: :S
[12:34] <intelikey> zorglu_ dpkg -l | grep <string to look for>
[12:34] <intelikey> zorglu_ dpkg -l | grep apache
[12:34] <intelikey> zorglu_ ii == installed
[12:35] <zorglu_> intelikey: nothing similar to "rpm -q packagename" ?
[12:36] <intelikey> zorglu_ you ask about the dpkg command
[12:36] <intelikey> check with apt or aptitude
[12:36] <zorglu_> ok
[12:36] <zorglu_> thanks
[12:36] <intelikey> np
[12:37] <yvonne___> any news?
[12:37] <intelikey> zorglu_ you could do dpkg -L package     but if it's there you get the full list of files it installed including parent dirs
[12:38] <Jucato_> hm... yvonne___, what happens when you try to install xlibs? "sudo apt-get install xlibs"?
[12:38] <yvonne___> Jucato_: "Package xlibs is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[12:40] <intelikey> zorglu_ easy way to check with apt is apt-get install package     if it's already there it tells you if not it tries to install it.
[12:41] <intelikey> but exact name is important in all of the cases execpt the first example i gave
[12:41] <Jucato_> !xlibs dapper
[12:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xlibs dapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <intelikey> xlibs-dev - X Window System client library development files transitional package
[12:43] <Jucato_> yvonne___: try installing "realplay" instead of "realplayer"
[12:43] <intelikey> full circle
[12:44] <Jucato_> thank you chroot! :)
[12:44] <ajus> i tried to mount my usb disk... but i can't get read write permission.. i do sudo mount -o rw /dev/sda1 /media/sdc... help pls
[12:45] <intelikey> tty3 [greg@~]  q realplay
[12:45] <intelikey> kmplayer-konq-plugins - KMPlayer plugin for KHTML/Konqueror
[12:45] <intelikey> realplayer - Real Player (installer)
[12:45] <intelikey> ajus sudo mount -o remount,dmask=000,fmask=111 /dev/sda1 /media/sdc
[12:46] <ajus> ok i'll try
[12:46] <intelikey> is that vfat or ntfs ?
[12:46] <ajus> vfat
[12:46] <intelikey> k
[12:47] <ajus> it says..you must specify the filesystem type
[12:47] <ajus> where should i put vfat?
[12:47] <intelikey> it wont help.
[12:47] <intelikey> ajus sudo mount -o remount,dmask=000,fmask=111 -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/sdc
[12:48] <intelikey> but it's not fs type that's erroring
[12:48] <Jucato_> yvonne___: how was it?
[12:48] <intelikey> mount doesnt error on vfat
[12:48] <intelikey> it's device node
[12:48] <intelikey> check the device and mount point
[12:48] <intelikey> typo maybe.
[12:49] <ajus> i can see my files.. but can't delete
[12:49] <ajus> but when i delete from sudo mc... i can
[12:49] <intelikey> well umount it.  and then try with this sudo mount -o dmask=000,fmask=111 /dev/sda1  /media/sdc
[12:50] <intelikey> or  sudo mount -o umask=000  /dev/sda1  /media/sdc
[12:50] <intelikey> if you like executable files...  heheh
[12:50] <ajus> intelikey: the 1st one works well.
[12:51] <ajus> great.. THanks.!!
[12:51] <intelikey> they will all work in their own ways
[12:51] <intelikey> the lesson here is   *mask=???
[12:52] <ajus> what mask means?
[12:52] <intelikey> vfat and ntfs don't have file permissions bit.  so it's set vurtually for the entire mount.
[12:52] <ajus> like chmod or something?
[12:53] <intelikey> dmask sets the dir permissions bit  and fmask sets the file perms   umask sets the universal  if not dmask/fmask is set
[12:53] <intelikey> like chmod
[12:53] <intelikey> yes
[12:53] <zorglu_> q. how do i make kde to refresh its menu with the new installed software, without having to reboot kde ?
[12:53] <yvonne___> Jucato_: sorry about the deplay, doesnt work either
[12:53] <yvonne___> :(
[12:53] <Jucato_> zorglu_: "kbuildsycoca --incremental" in Konsole
[12:53] <intelikey> zorglu_ sudo update-menus
[12:54] <Jucato_> intelikey: update-menus doesn't work
[12:54] <intelikey> Jucato_ no ?
[12:54] <yvonne___> Jucato_: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/122
[12:54] <intelikey> hmmm ok.
[12:54] <ajus> intelikey: wel.. quite confusing to me now... but i'll read more.. and catch u later... Thanks alot :D
[12:54] <intelikey> does for bb and xfce
[12:54] <Jucato_> yvonne___: do you have multiverse enabled?
[12:54] <intelikey> ajus any time
[12:55] <zorglu_> intelikey: Jucato_: thanks, the --incremental works and update-menus doesnt seems to be present on this box, too bad tho it was a bit easier to remember :)
[12:55] <Jucato_> zorglu_: just make a K Menu entry for the kbuildsycoca --incremental command
[12:55] <intelikey> ajus setting the umask is like running a chmod ??? -R    it affects everything
[12:56] <zorglu_> Jucato_: ok good suggestion
[12:58] <intelikey> Jucato_ hmmm i think update-menus only works on global menus  not on  personal setting    and kde may not read the global menus execpt on first run
[12:59] <Jucato_> intelikey: I think I read somewhere that update-menus doesn't comply with fdo, so it might be removed later on?
[12:59] <zorglu_> bla stuck again on adding user on mysql :) this stuff has been borthering for years :)
[12:59] <intelikey> Jucato_ prolly so.   isn't it a *buntu thang anyway ?
[01:00] <Jucato_> intelikey: which is a *buntu thang?
[01:00] <intelikey> update-menus
[01:00] <intelikey> several of the update-*
[01:00] <Jucato_> we don't even have it installed by default?
[01:00] <intelikey> for that matter
[01:00] <intelikey> really
[01:01] <Jucato_> really
[01:01] <intelikey> maybe it installed with hoary and has just set on my box ever sense.....
[01:01] <Jucato_> unless it's some "only God knows where" hidden command
[01:01] <intelikey> no it's in /usr/sbin/
[01:02] <Jucato_> nope. not here
[01:02] <intelikey> err ooops
[01:02] <intelikey> tty3 [greg@~]  which update-menus
[01:02] <intelikey>  /usr/bin/update-menus
[01:03] <intelikey> s/s//
[01:03] <zorglu_> q. i would like to create/have the mysql root password of my box ? any suggestion ?
[01:04] <Jucato_> intelikey: not in dapper, not in edgy
[01:05] <Skrot> Hi. I need a 686 kernel to utilitize a Core 2 Duo CPU right?
[01:05] <zorglu_> intelikey: Jucato_: btw any of you with knowledge and time to build a simple package to reduce the unniverse/multiverse issue ?
[01:05] <intelikey> and that's another thing i have issues with.   i have 34 update-* scripts and use maybe three of them.
[01:06] <intelikey> !smp
[01:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:07] <Jucato_> zorglu_: what issue?
[01:07] <intelikey> linux-image-2.6.15-25-686 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.15 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP/UP
[01:08] <intelikey> or -27-686   ^
[01:08] <intelikey> latest
[01:09] <zorglu_> Jucato_: i had an idea to create a .deb which would automatically add unniverse in the /etc/apt/source.d, then adding unniverse repository would be 'apt-get install universe-repo-config'  which would be much easier than 'edit the stuff by hand' which scare the beginners
[01:10] <Jucato_> zorglu_: hm.. they don't have to edit it my hand...
[01:11] <zorglu_> Jucato_: well they do :)
[01:11] <intelikey> zorglu_ i have obviously spent too much time in this channel....     i'm not part of the "team"  i don't build packages.  and i know the bot better than i know most people,  so i think i'll leave for a while.... about three years should be sufficent.
[01:11] <Jucato_> zorglu_: while your idea might be nice, it suffers the same problem with automatix/easyubuntu, they modify stuff without your knowledge.
[01:11] <Jucato_> zorglu_: which is really funny, because Synaptic and Adept (soon, I think) have completely easy interfaces for modifying sources.list
[01:12] <zorglu_> Jucato_: without your knowledge <- i dont understand. the user is the one typing the command so he know he does it
[01:12] <intelikey> Jucato_ shalom.
[01:12] <zorglu_> intelikey: ok :)
[01:13] <Jucato_> zorglu_: he's typing the command to install the package/script, but he doesn't know what's going on. it's both a good thing and a bad thing, though
[01:13] <zorglu_> Jucato_: ok do you have a simple cmdline that the user could cut/paste to add universe repository ?
[01:13] <Jucato_> zorglu_: hm.. you don't actually have to
[01:13] <Jucato_> er... sorry
[01:13] <Jucato_> zorglu_: hm.. you don't actually have to "add" the universe repository, but just enable it
[01:13] <zorglu_> Jucato_: still dont get the 'without knowledge' stuff. it is the same for all package
[01:13] <Jucato_> multiverse is a different thing, though
[01:14] <Skrot> !nvidia
[01:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:14] <Dannilion> Can someone help me with my new wireless card?
[01:14] <XTorchedX> check your cable connection Dannilion
[01:14] <zorglu_> Jucato_: ok if you prefere the word enable :) so do you have a simple cut/pastable cmdline for it ?
[01:14] <Jucato_> zorglu_: but we're not talking about simply installing a package, we're talking about installing a package that will modify sources.list
[01:15] <Dannilion> XTorchedX: I'm not disconnecting the cable till I get the laptop to recognise the wireless
[01:15] <Jucato_> zorglu_: I thought you're looking for an easy way for the user? then why use the command line? but if you insist "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[01:15] <zorglu_> Jucato_: ok let me ask one question, how is it different that any other package ?
[01:15] <zorglu_> Jucato_: well nano :) how much time to learn this one ?
[01:15] <Jucato_> zorglu_: certainly not as much as learning to use vim. have you tried nano?
[01:16] <zorglu_> Jucato_: i did, and he uses 'custom keys' aka keys which requires to be learned by the user. aka more time and energy
[01:16] <Jucato_> zorglu_: well, it's just my opinion
[01:16] <zorglu_> not the 'usual keys'
[01:17] <Jucato_> Ctrl+O and Ctrl+X? which are displayed prominently at the bottom?
[01:17] <zorglu_> Jucato_: i know, no blame intended :) but i tried on #kubuntu-devel and it was the same issue
[01:17] <zorglu_> Jucato_: yes
[01:18] <Jucato_> zorglu_: other users might like your package, the same group/type of users who adore automatix and easyubuntu. The point is, at this point in time, it wil only be a 3rd-party package, held in the same light as automatix and easyubuntu
[01:18] <Dannilion> My wireless problem is that my laptop isn't detecting the wireless card
[01:18] <Jucato_> a.k.a. "use at your own risk"
[01:19] <Jucato_> ugh! internet connections...
[01:19] <zorglu_> Jucato_: "user at your own risk" as any other universe pacakage :)
[01:20] <Jucato_> zorglu_: you mean multiverse, don't you?
[01:20] <mindspin> ;-)
[01:20] <zorglu_> but ok, well i tried for 3 days to push on this idea and it is much harder than expected, the only one not against in Hawkwind :)
[01:20] <zorglu_> so i guess it wont happen :)
[01:20] <GnarusLeo> Wich command showes where my current cellphones are connected in /dev/ again??
[01:20] <zorglu_> Jucato_: well all the repositories whcih are not officially maintained by canonical
[01:21] <Jucato_> zorglu_: all of them. Ubuntu maintains them, not canonical :P
[01:21] <Jucato_> they're all maintained by Ubuntu, but multiverse has the least level of "guaranteed" support
[01:21] <zorglu_> ok
[01:23] <Jucato_> zorglu_: well, it won't make it into the official repositories for now, that I'm sure. it definitely won't make it into main. if it does make it into universe/multiverse, don't you think it would defeat the purpose of the package?
[01:24] <zorglu_> Jucato_: yep some legal issue there
[01:24] <Jucato_> ok, gotta go for now... tata! :P
[01:25] <zorglu_> well i tried to motivate other people to do it :) but apparendly nobody want to :)
[01:25] <zorglu_> maybe i will if one day i got the time :)
[01:25] <Skrot> !nvidia
[01:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:26] <HetaUma> I'm making a net install of ubuntu. Can I somehow see the speed of my network ?
[01:33] <Skrot> !nvidia
[01:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:36] <Skrot> Hi. For nvidia binary drivers, should the driver be "nv" or "nvidia" in xorg.conf?
[01:36] <Skrot> !fonts
[01:36] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[01:36] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[01:37] <vvatsa> Skrot: it should be nvidia
[01:37] <vvatsa> nv it the opensrc driver with no 3d accel.
[01:38] <Skrot> goodie. brb
[01:43] <Skrot> !fonts
[01:43] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[01:43] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[01:46] <Skrot> !msttcorefonts
[01:46] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[01:47] <Skrot> !cabextract
[01:47] <ubotu> cabextract: a program to extract Microsoft Cabinet files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1-1 (dapper), package size 43 kB, installed size 144 kB
[01:48] <afm\colossus> hello everyone
[01:48] <afm\colossus> is there an up-to-date howto somewhere on getting Kubuntu Edgy running with Compiz/AIGLX (not Xgl)?
[02:01] <zorglu_> q. when i have large text entry in html and read it via konqueror, it seems to put some text in red, according to some rules i dont understand, how can i disable this ?
[02:02] <Dannilion> I'm getting somewhere- my wireless card is recognised, it just won't connect (static or dhcp)
[02:02] <Dannilion> any suggestions?
[02:03] <zorglu_> !wireless
[02:03] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:03] <zorglu_> Dannilion: i dont use wifi but have you read this page ?
[02:03] <Dannilion> yup
[02:03] <Dannilion> I'll reread it to see if I can find anything
[02:04] <zorglu_> there is a tool called wfassistant i think
[02:04] <naaronbo> Ccomo hago para instalar flash en un amd 64
[02:04] <zorglu_> it is all i know about wifi :)
[02:04] <zorglu_> !es
[02:04] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:05] <naaronbo> gracias
[02:08] <DonGorgon> !webcam
[02:08] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:09] <Dannilion> when I do a sudo dhclient wlan0, I get this:
[02:09] <Dannilion> DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
[02:09] <Dannilion> bogus UDP packet length: 556
[02:10] <Dannilion> that didn't occur with my other computer
[02:14] <Skrot> !codecs
[02:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:17] <zorglu_> q. how do i disable the spell checker in konqueror ?
[02:21] <Makro___> morning
[02:28] <sebo> SELAMSS
[02:28] <GSSSDE> SELAMSS
[02:29] <flaccid> hmm kde wizard loads every login
[02:29] <flaccid> can't get rid of it
[02:29] <Skrot> Hi. How can I find out which video-modes are supported by my video card?
[02:29] <Jucato_> flaccid: edit /usr/bin/startkde as root
[02:29] <flaccid> also my eth1 lan iface gets 169.254.80.239
[02:30] <flaccid> whats in there Jucato_
[02:30] <Jucato_> flaccid: then look for the line "kpersonalizerrc General FirstLogin true" and set it to false or comment it
[02:31] <flaccid> thanks Jucato_
[02:31] <flaccid> i'll test
[02:33] <flaccid> that seemed to have worked Jucato_
[02:33] <flaccid> how did it get in there
[02:34] <Jucato_> bug in KDE 3.5.4 on Dapper
[02:34] <Myself_> .
[02:34] <flaccid> dang
[02:34] <flaccid> ok thanks
[02:34] <flaccid> common?
[02:34] <Jucato_> yes
[02:34] <flaccid> ok
[02:34] <flaccid> how about my eth1 address?
[02:34] <flaccid> 169.254.80.239
[02:35] <flaccid> yet dhclient returns Sep 21 20:30:42 lister dhclient: bound to 192.168.0.209 -- renewal in 8985 seconds.
[02:38] <flaccid> it appears that zeroconf is the issue
[02:40] <zorglu_> why do you need a zeroconf address and a dhcp one ?
[02:42] <Noxville> hi all, does any1 know how to bridge ethernet connections and run iptables on the bridge??
[02:43] <visik7> you need to use ebtables
[02:43] <flaccid> i have no idea
[02:44] <Noxville> ebtables??? does that automatically bridge 2 network cards?
[02:45] <flaccid> directory containing linux source code in dapper?
[02:46] <visik7> flaccid: there isn't
[02:46] <visik7> if you need source code for a specific package
[02:46] <visik7> run apt-get source <package-name>
[02:46] <flaccid> i think i installed it via package
[02:46] <flaccid> i'm compiling cisco vpn client
[02:48] <bele> flaccid: FYI, there's also a cisco vpn client implementation which works in userspace
[02:49] <flaccid> thanks
[02:49] <flaccid> i actually need to use the vendor one
[02:49] <bele> flaccid: package vpnc.
[02:49] <bele> flaccid: ok :)
[02:49] <flaccid> ive managed to install this client before. i just upgraded the kernel, so i need to recompile
[02:50] <flaccid> i think they are asking for kernel source?
[02:50] <flaccid> is that /usr/src
[02:51] <Jucato_> flaccid: if the linux-headers are the "kernel source" then yes it's in /usr/src
[02:53] <flaccid> i have this in there as well kernel-source-2.4.27.tar.bz2 which looks old
[02:54] <Noxville> ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha ia, Ssha v
[02:57] <flaccid> i need to install linux kernel source code for my kernel version. which package is this?
[02:57] <visik7> flaccid: why ?
[02:58] <visik7> if you need to compile a module you just need the headers
[02:58] <visik7> aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[02:59] <flaccid> thanks mate
[03:01] <flaccid> !kernel
[03:01] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:02] <LeeJunFan> note: don't try to config and compile a kernel when after updating to edgy initramfs-tools deferred /bin/sh to /bin/dash :p
[03:04] <LeeJunFan> heh, my edgy update has been a little troubled. Almost got it ironed out now though - sure wouldn't recommend updating from dapper->edgy for the noobs yet.
[03:15] <SillyZ> gmorninn
[03:26] <joel> What program can I use to edit the systems firewall?
[03:27] <SillyZ> firestarter is a good one
[03:28] <joel> SillyZ: thanks
[03:28] <flaccid> is there a qt one?
[03:28] <xwolf-> is there a disk defrag utility for kubuntu?
[03:30] <max_> op
[03:30] <max_> sssssssssssss
[03:30] <max_> algum do brasillllllll
[03:30] <max_> ???
[03:30] <max_> ?
[03:31] <SillyZ> xwolf, linux filesystems do not need a defrag utiliity ie, ext2, ext3, reiser, etc
[03:31] <vhogemann> _max_, try #unbuntu-br
[03:31] <MenZa> !defrag
[03:31] <ubotu> defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[03:31] <MenZa> :D
[03:32] <SillyZ> MenZa: uhh isnt that what I just said  :D
[03:32] <MenZa> SillyZ: Just pointing out there was an entry for it.
[03:32] <MenZa> <3 ubotu
[03:32] <SillyZ> ah np
[03:33] <ninHer> hi all
[03:33] <ubuntu> ninHer: hi
[03:34] <MenZa> hi
[03:42] <Andrey-> any major project mantainers in here ?
[03:48] <NeoSaki> Audrey: project maintainers? Kubuntu Project guys?
[03:49] <Andrey-> NeoSaki: yup
[03:50] <NeoSaki> No clue ^^
[03:50] <NeoSaki> Whatchu need, though?
[03:50] <Andrey-> i have a question about donations
[03:51] <abattoir> Andrey-: you might want to ask Riddell about that...
[03:51] <Riddell> Andrey-: hi
[03:52] <Andrey-> abattoir: 10x
[03:52] <Andrey-> Riddell: private
[03:52] <abattoir> Andrey-: you're welcome :)
[04:06] <Morbo> Encuesta ( I know that #kubuntu is a Channel of only english languaje.. too i know that is a channel from questions about of sofware ...but i don't know write this question in English and i will want learn about the idea of other country.... ) .............. (((((((((((((((((((    Que opinan del discurso del presidente Chavez ayer en la ONU ?  )))))))))))))))))))))))))
[04:06] <ian|> hi! I'm trying to install digikam on my newly installed kubuntu. So i added "deb http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/kubuntu/dapper/ ./" to my sources.lst - but I get an "403 Forbidden" when apt-get update tries to download the Packages.gz.
[04:06] <SandokanelGrande> QUE ES VERDAD
[04:07] <Morbo> SandokanelGrande: Gracias !
[04:07] <ian|> The weird thing is, that other tools/browsers (FF/konq/wget) can get the Packages.gz without any problem.
[04:07] <SandokanelGrande> QUE EL PRESIDENTE DE ESTADOS UNIDOS ES EL DIABLO EN PERSONA
[04:07] <ian|> Any hints?
[04:07] <abattoir> Morbo: #kubuntu-offtopic might be a nice place to talk about President Chavez(if that's what you mean)
[04:07] <Morbo> abattoir: yeah
[04:08] <Jucato_> ian|: any reason you don't want to use the digikam in our repository?
[04:08] <SandokanelGrande> I think is true. Buch is Satans.
[04:08] <abattoir> SandokanelGrande: please take this discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic , thanks :)
[04:09] <SandokanelGrande> 0k
[04:09] <ian|> Jucato_: in Which repository?
[04:09] <Jucato_> !digikam
[04:09] <ubotu> digikam: digital photo management application for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2~rc1-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 4077 kB, installed size 9724 kB
[04:09] <Jucato_> universe
[04:10] <ian|> ah, ok..
[04:10] <ian|> I wasnt using universe yset
[04:13] <phreakys> i wonder. would it be possible to connect to windows xp with remote desktop?
[04:14] <phreakys> i just installed rdesktop
[04:18] <bele> phreakys: hmm xp does not include terminal services server i guess
[04:18] <bele> phreakys: you could always use vnc server (xp) & krdc on client-side
[04:31] <phreakys> thanks bele
[04:33] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[04:34] <Jucato_> of course it does. that's why we're here :P
[04:36] <sorush20> can I get syntax highlighting for konsole?
[04:37] <MenZa> sorush20: keep me updated. I'd like that aswell.
[04:38] <pielgrzym> anyone knows a begginers guide for lvm in ubuntu? I want to set one up :)
[04:38] <vytautas> i have a problem, a little square near mouse pointer is drawn incorrectly in blender and in k3d, so i guess problem is not in these apps, how to fix it?
[04:39] <Jucato_> sorush20: afaik, no
[04:41] <sorush20> I have a directory in /home that has lots of newer .deb packages can I use that as a repository and add the address to adept?
[04:41] <sorush20> my sources list?
[04:45] <nivanson> sorush20: I don't know about the answer for your question, but keep in mind that newer packages often means higher versions on the dependencies. You can always install local packages using dpkg -i <path>.
[04:46] <CroX> My system keeps freezing on me. I thought it was the gfx card but even with updated drivers it keeps freezing. Ayone care to lend a helping hand?
[04:50] <sorush20> how do I add a bug to azureus https://launchpad.net/products/azureus/+filebug,
[04:50] <sorush20> where would the official bug tracker be for azureus?
[04:52] <omar> guys I install the mule but it's not working, what can I do now
[04:52] <ian|> Is there any special lib necessary to play mp3? I cant play mp3 files with amarok (xine backend) - but other files like ogg work fine.
[04:53] <abattoir> ian|: yes...
[04:53] <abattoir> !libxine-extracodecs
[04:53] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[04:53] <abattoir> ian|: ^^^ that's the package, its in multiverse
[04:53] <abattoir> !mp3
[04:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:53] <Jucato_> actually...
[04:53] <Jucato_> !multiverse
[04:53] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:53] <abattoir> ian|: ^^^those pages might also help you
[04:53] <abattoir> Jucato_: did i make a mistake? :P
[04:54] <Jucato_> abattoir: of course not :P
[05:05] <sorush20> I'm unable to install amarok because of these two packages.. The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[05:05] <sorush20>   amarok: Depends: libtunepimp3 (>= 0.4.2) but it is not installable
[05:05] <sorush20>           Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not installable
[05:06] <sorush20> !libtunepimp3
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libtunepimp3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:08] <abattoir> sorush20: where are you installing it from?
[05:09] <sorush20> abattoir: repositoires..
[05:09] <abattoir> sorush20: yes, which ones?
[05:09] <abattoir> sorush20: which version of amarok?
[05:09] <sorush20> imbernard
[05:10] <abattoir> sorush20: are you installing from main, or from jr's repositories(kubuntu.org)
[05:10] <xwolf-> i just downloaded google earth beta and got a .bin file
[05:10] <abattoir> sorush20: hmm, ok.. do you have dapper-backports/dapper-updates enabled?
[05:10] <abattoir> xwolf-: try running it with 'sh ./filename.bin'
[05:10] <xwolf-> how do i install it? i tried ./file.bin in konsole but got permission denied
[05:10] <MenZa> xwolf-: chmod?
[05:10] <xwolf-> chmod +x you mean?
[05:11] <xwolf-> yeah, that did it. thank you
[05:12] <mikki> need some help with installing 3d desktop
[05:12] <Jucato> what seems to be the problem mikki?
[05:13] <henk> Hi, is it possible to copy a txt file into my pastebuffer, it is a realy big txt file and i'd hate to cp& it in a lot of passes
[05:14] <mikki> i dont know
[05:14] <mikki> it just dont work :(
[05:14] <Jucato> mikki: you have tried running it?
[05:15] <mikki> running it, how?:P
[05:16] <supernova_> how to get root priviledge to install an application? I get an "Permission denied" error!
[05:16] <Jucato> mikki: 3d desktop is one of those kinds of programs that you have to run with a certain command
[05:16] <Jucato> !sudo
[05:16] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:16] <Jucato> mikki: press Alt+F2 and try to run "3ddesk --acquire"
[05:16] <Hapo> how can I disable the "print screen" hotkey for KSnapshot?
[05:16] <Hapo> I always hit that accidentally when using yakuake
[05:16] <Hapo> that has F12 as the hotkey
[05:17] <Jucato> Hapo: I think that's in System Settings > Regional & Accessiblity > Input Actons
[05:18] <Hapo> ok, I'll have a look at that!
[05:18] <DethKlok> Anyone know about SSH?
[05:18] <mikki> does it work in kdm?
[05:18] <Jucato> mikki: 3D Desktop? yes it works in KDE
[05:19] <sorush20> is people.ubuntu.com down?
[05:19] <Jucato> mikki: you need to have 3d acceleration, which means you have to install the non-free/proprietary driver for your video card
[05:19] <DethKlok> Is there away to stop SSH sessions from timing out, ie disconnect from not doing anything
[05:20] <Hapo> Jucato: there doesn't be any such hotkey listed in the window.
[05:20] <arcasa> What's the terminal code to update your kernel?
[05:20] <supernova_> I want to install a program and i want to get root priviledge for it. How do i install ot?
[05:20] <Hapo> there is Alt+Print, though
[05:20] <Hapo> but disabling that doesn't disable just Print Screen
[05:21] <Jucato> Hapo: not in Keyboard Shortcuts. I said "Input Actions"
[05:21] <Hapo> oh, sorry, that one :)
[05:21] <Jucato> I think there's a
[05:21] <Hapo> the keyboard shortcut place just seemed logical
[05:21] <Jucato> "ksnapshot" entry there
[05:21] <Hapo> oh, there it is.
[05:21] <Hapo> a big thanks!
[05:21] <arcasa> What's the terminal code to update your kernel?
[05:21] <arcasa> What's the terminal code to update your kernel?
[05:21] <arcasa> What's the terminal code to update your kernel?
[05:21] <arcasa> What's the terminal code to update your kernel?
[05:21] <arcasa> Please?
[05:21] <Jucato> Hapo: just disable it
[05:21] <Hapo> Jucato: yep, it works now
[05:22] <Jucato> arcasa: flooding the channel won't give you answers faster
[05:22] <Jucato> if there's a kernel update available, you will be notified in the system tray.
[05:22] <arcasa> No.. But it get's the point across.
[05:22] <NeoSaki> arcasa: thats a good way to piss someone off who might actually help you
[05:22] <Jucato> arcasa: or it would get you kicked
[05:22] <arcasa> Meh
[05:22] <pielgrzym> anyone using the damn lvm? please!
[05:23] <Jucato> sheesh
[05:23] <cga> hi all =), i need to use skype to give assistanca to a friend who's going to install kubuntu. but i can't manage to talk with him; i know "i hear you, you don't" is a common problem and i'm reading the wiki @ http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/InstallazioneSkype  -- the problem i get (and i think it could solve the problem) is that when i restart aRTS i get the following message: Sound server informational message:
[05:23] <cga> Error while initializing the sound driver:
[05:23] <cga> device: default can't be opened for capture (Device or resource busy)
[05:23] <cga> The sound server will continue, using the null output device.  --what can i do? any suggestion? thanks
[05:25] <zezelle> bonjour
[05:25] <mula> hi... yesterday I asked for some help about updating my ubuntu to install kubuntu after it...
[05:25] <mula> I used this 3 commands: sudo perl -pi.bak -e 's/breezy/dapper/i' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[05:26] <mula> and at the end of installation (after downloading about 560mb), it said that couldn't install correctly...
[05:26] <mula> what do i do? :S
[05:27] <NeoSaki> morning zezelle
[05:27] <NeoSaki> native French or just speaking it?
[05:31] <heXLer> hi  I need an analog TV Card for my notebook. Can somebody advice me one that works with Ubuntu ?
[05:35] <mikki> how do i install a .run file ?
[05:36] <grothesk> Did anyone try to install flashplugin-nonfree lately?
[05:36] <Jucato> grothesk: broken/bugged
[05:36] <grothesk> The version from dapper.backports is broken.
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> sh whatever.run
[05:36] <grothesk> Ah ;-)
[05:36] <mikki> ok
[05:37] <cannonball> mikki: typically .run files are kind of like the self extracting EXEs in the windows world.   chmod +x filename.run && ./filename.run   But you are giving explicit trust to whatever script you are starting.  Make sure you trust it before you do something like that.
[05:37] <cannonball> mikki: or Dr_Willis's method works just as well, but the same caveat applies.
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> best to avoide silly .run files.. or even worse .bin files. :P
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> but it depends on what you are installinmg i gues. lol
[05:44] <travis> ok, i got a question to whoever can answer it, i am trying to install flashplugin-nonfree  and it won't let me install it it says "
[05:44] <travis> dpkg: error processing flashplugin-nonfree (--configure):
[05:44] <travis>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[05:46] <Jucato> travis: it's currently broken
[05:46] <travis> oh is it? so i can't view flash on konqueror?
[05:46] <Jucato> or in Firefox either...
[05:46] <travis> ah, that sucks....
[05:47] <travis> do you know when it will be fixed?
[05:47] <Jucato> I dunno how long this will last, though
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> !flash
[05:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:47] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: it's broken/bugged
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> i wonder if the free one works?
[05:47] <Jucato> which is the free one?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> or from the actual flash downloads.
[05:47] <pielgrzym> anyone using lvm here? :)
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> !info flashplugin
[05:47] <ubotu> Package flashplugin does not exist in any distro I know
[05:47] <Jucato> heh
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> i seem tor ecall some free and non free flash variants
[05:47] <travis> !info swf
[05:47] <ubotu> Package swf does not exist in any distro I know
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> not that ive ever messed with it.
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> I try to avoide flash as much as possible.
[05:48] <travis> yeah, but i want to view www.illwillpress.com cartoons
[05:48] <Jucato> !swf-player
[05:48] <ubotu> swf-player: SWF (Macromedia Flash) player. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.6-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 144 kB
[05:48] <travis> and also like newgrounds.com
[05:48] <travis> yeah i dunno how to use it
[05:48] <Jucato> neither do I...
[05:48] <travis> heh
[05:48] <travis> wish they would put instructions on these programs
[05:48] <travis> i mean i have that installed
[05:50] <lsproc> I am trying to connect to a printer over Samba, but the KDE Print wizard only sees one shared printer on the remote server. This may be because that is the only printer with a share name that does not have spaces. Is this the case?
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> Hmm..  Never noticed a space issue. But i tend to think ahead and not put spaces in shares :)
[05:51] <lsproc> lol
[05:51] <lsproc> btw, i made a typo
[05:51] <lsproc> the printer i want has spaces in it, but there is another one that i dont want that does not
[05:51] <lsproc> the one i want is not shown, but the other is
[05:52] <kyron_> poke ALL: does Kubuntu's stock kernel support the BAdRAM patch?
[05:52] <ge2x> !nvidia
[05:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:53] <travis> blah, flash, grrrr
[05:54] <vge> any gui program to locate largest files in hd?
[05:55] <vge> well nongui will do as fine, but atleast some prog
[05:55] <travis> should i install a netscape browser or a different browser for flash support?
[05:55] <lsproc> konqueror supports flash
[05:55] <vge> firefox as well
[05:56] <travis> it may support it, but i haven't gotten it to work
[05:56] <lsproc> konqueror?
[05:56] <vge> have you installed the flash plugin?
[05:56] <travis> yeah, konqueror won't let me install flash nor mozilla
[05:56] <travis> yes
[05:56] <travis> i am pretty sure i have
[05:57] <lsproc> travis: Install flashplugin-nonfree, open konqueror, go to plugins in settings, and rescan for netscape plugins
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> so does poera
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> Opera
[05:57] <lsproc> lol
[05:57] <travis> heh, flashplugin-nonfree hasn't been working
[05:57] <travis> its saying a bunch of errors
[05:57] <lsproc> yeah
[05:57] <lsproc> it still installs fine
[05:58] <lsproc> but if you copy the files in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins to a folder, uninstall flashplugin-nonfree and copy the files back it works OK
[05:58] <travis> it does?
[05:58] <travis> so install it, copy files, then uninstall files, then copy files back into place
[05:59] <lsproc> kinda like that
[05:59] <Bbetto> a file with de .sh extension is a program?
[05:59] <lsproc> want a bash script to help you?
[05:59] <travis> if possible
[05:59] <lsproc> ok
[05:59] <travis> please
[05:59] <lsproc> gimme 5 mins
[05:59] <travis> thanks :-)
[06:01] <zezelle> bonsoir
[06:01] <zezelle>  zezelle elle est la
[06:01] <zezelle> please
[06:03] <lsproc> travis: Just testing it now
[06:03] <travis> alright
[06:04] <charlie5> hi, does anyone use 'ulimit' ?
[06:04] <lsproc> travis: Can I send the script over IRC?
[06:04] <zorglu_> charlie5: i do
[06:05] <travis> yeah, i think it will be fine, i think i have everything set for it, but if not, sorry :/ i am a newb with such things
[06:05] <lsproc> travis: It should be sending, are you registered with freenode?
[06:05] <charlie5> zorglu_: i'm trying to set the stack limit of any app run in a bash shell ... will ulimit do it ?
[06:05] <travis> no i am not
[06:06] <lsproc> ah
[06:06] <lsproc> wont work then
[06:06] <lsproc> idea 2!
[06:06] <travis> oh ok
[06:06] <zorglu_> charlie5: yes
[06:06] <travis> what about email?
[06:06] <lsproc> ill pastebin it
[06:06] <travis> oh ok
[06:06] <travis> that works
[06:06] <zorglu_> charlie5: 'help ulimit' to get the doc and there is a config file too
[06:06] <doremi> hello
[06:06] <NOxON> Hi all :D
[06:07] <charlie5> zorglu_: zorglu_ thanks, i'll have a look
[06:07] <zorglu_> charlie5: /etc/security/limits.conf
[06:07] <doremi> first time in this chat
[06:07] <NOxON> Me 2 :D
[06:07] <dmd> I was turning off loads of daemons I don't need with the sysv config tool yesterday but now I have to manually connect. What did I turn off that I shouldn't?
[06:07] <lsproc> travis: http://swishcms.berlios.de/pastebin/newpaste/index.php?q=post&id=7. Copy the contents of the script into kate or something, then open a terminal and run it
[06:07] <zorglu_> charlie5: may put it in your .bashrc for confivenience
[06:07] <doremi> what ubuntu?
[06:07] <travis> ok
[06:07] <NOxON> Ubunut is linux
[06:07] <doremi> 6.06
[06:07] <NOxON> *ubuntu*
[06:07] <NOxON> yeah, i have :)
[06:08] <travis> lsproc:  do i need to copy the numbers too? or not?
[06:08] <NOxON> We all have ?
[06:08] <u0630249> hello
[06:08] <doremi> i also use suse
[06:08] <doremi> 10.0 and 10.1
[06:08] <NOxON> hmm, suse is 2 comercial i think ... :p
[06:08] <doremi> it is
[06:08] <u0630249> someone
[06:08] <lsproc> travis: You cant :D
[06:08] <doremi> where r u from?
[06:08] <lsproc> btw, i wrote that script :D
[06:08] <NOxON> hello u0630249
[06:08] <NOxON> Netherlands, you ?
[06:09] <u0630249> hi noxon
[06:09] <lsproc> i mean the website software
[06:09] <doremi> Grrece
[06:09] <travis> lsproc: ah ok, thanks, let me see if it works, god i hope it does cause i need flash for some of my fav bands
[06:09] <doremi> greece
[06:09] <NOxON> :D
[06:09] <travis> lsproc: thats cool
[06:09] <lsproc> thanks
[06:09] <u0630249> i dont know what is this
[06:09] <NOxON> Whatwhat is ?
[06:09] <NOxON> This conversation .. ?
[06:09] <dmd> how do i get my ethernet internet connection to start on boot instead of having to manually start it?
[06:09] <u0630249> i mean i m using linux  and get lost
[06:10] <NOxON> hmm, good question ...
[06:10] <NOxON> Why lost :D
[06:10] <NOxON> It isnt windows, so you dont lost :d
[06:10] <travis> ok, i copied and pasted the script into Kate, but whenever i go to konsole it won't let me run it, what would i use as a command to run it?
[06:10] <u0630249> i tried to in to messenger and finish here
[06:10] <lsproc> travis: First run chmod 777 nameofscript
[06:10] <lsproc> travis: Then ./nameofscript
[06:10] <NOxON> You have ubuntu right ?
[06:11] <supernova> Is there any bandwidth monitoring software for linux which can save the daily and monthly bandwidth usage?
[06:11] <u0630249> all of u r from nothern countryes
[06:11] <u0630249> nop
[06:11] <NOxON> you need to start Gaim
[06:11] <NOxON> or kopete
[06:11] <NOxON> kopete is cool :d
[06:11] <lsproc> yeah
[06:11] <lsproc> kopete rocks
[06:11] <u0630249> u r speakin chinesse to me
[06:12] <NOxON> :d
[06:12] <NOxON> lol, what programs do you have in the menu ?
[06:12] <NOxON> submenu where you found this program ?/
[06:12] <u0630249> onl tell me all of u r from nothern countryes
[06:12] <travis> lsproc: ok it went through all this text then said "done please rescan for netscape plugins for konqueror"
[06:13] <travis> does that mean i go to plugins and do rescan and it should work?
[06:13] <u0630249> cause im from colombia
[06:13] <lsproc> yes
[06:13] <lsproc> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/
[06:13] <NOxON> it is hot there isnt it ? :P
[06:13] <lsproc> Flahs player tester
[06:13] <u0630249> depends
[06:13] <u0630249> we have all weather
[06:13] <NOxON> lol
[06:14] <NOxON> Moslty it is raining here in the netherlands :p
[06:14] <travis> ack, it just crashed lol
[06:14] <lsproc> :D
[06:14] <u0630249> aaa so u r from holanda
[06:14] <NOxON> yeah haaha
[06:14] <TunaTom> NOxON: Right now, it's pretty sunny in germany (ruhrgebiet)
[06:14] <NOxON> yes
[06:14] <NOxON> it is almost where i live haha :D
[06:15] <NOxON> Where you from TunaTom ?
[06:15] <u0630249> kool
[06:15] <TunaTom> NOxON: as said: germany (ruhrgebiet)
[06:15] <u0630249> do u know espaol
[06:15] <NOxON> ow you meant that way haha
[06:15] <NOxON> I almost live near to you
[06:15] <NOxON> :d
[06:15] <NOxON> offcourse
[06:15] <NOxON> Spain rocks ^^
[06:16] <NOxON> it is hot there :p
[06:16] <Skrot> !dapper-backports
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dapper-backports - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <travis> ah, nevermind lsproc:  thanks it works on firefox it seems, but not on konqueror
[06:16] <TunaTom> NOxON: strange fixation to hotness ;)
[06:16] <u0630249> noxon thanx for help me i think i should continue studying
[06:16] <yarddog> if i want to install kde on ubuntu, what is the command to do this, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[06:16] <NOxON> yeah, you know
[06:16] <u0630249> bye bye
[06:16] <NeoSaki> sudo apt-get install kubuntu
[06:16] <NeoSaki> sudo apt-get install kde*
[06:16] <NOxON> you need to look for kopete
[06:16] <yarddog> thanks
[06:16] <NOxON> on google
[06:17] <TunaTom> yarddog: yes
[06:17] <NOxON> KDE ?
[06:17] <abattoir> yarddog: yes, that's it
[06:17] <NOxON> KDE = sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[06:17] <Skrot> How do I use dapper-backports?
[06:17] <travis> now all i need to get is to figure out how to get sound to work with flash
[06:17] <travis> hahaa
[06:17] <NOxON> dont know, lol what are thy :d
[06:17] <TunaTom> NOxON: What? kopete? (\me confused)
[06:17] <TunaTom> KDE?
[06:18] <TunaTom> google?
[06:18] <NOxON> no, kopete
[06:18] <NOxON> is MSN
[06:18] <NOxON> :d
[06:18] <NOxON> and yahoo and stuff :D
[06:18] <abattoir> Skrot: do you have that enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list file(or Manage Repositories, in adept) ?
[06:18] <NeoSaki> i needs a better internet radio service, anyone know one?
[06:18] <NOxON> www.slowradio.com
[06:18] <NOxON> :d
[06:18] <NOxON> it is lovesongs :p
[06:18] <NeoSaki> >_>
[06:18] <NeoSaki> I'm thinking rock...
[06:18] <abattoir> NOxON: try di.fm
[06:19] <NOxON> ok :p
[06:19] <Skrot> abattoir: No
[06:19] <abattoir> Skrot: is it even listed?
[06:19] <abattoir> !repos
[06:19] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:19] <TunaTom> NOxON: Listening to BossHoss (popular music covered as country/western)
[06:19] <NOxON> di.fm is all kind off stuff thank you m8 :d
[06:20] <TunaTom> some newbie here who needs to be rescued?
[06:20] <NOxON> haha
[06:20] <NOxON> yeah me :D
[06:21] <NOxON> Why cant i listen to online music
[06:21] <travis> if you know how to get sound to work in firefox for flash that would be great
[06:21] <TunaTom> uh
[06:21] <NOxON> :p
[06:21] <NOxON> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[06:21] <TunaTom> I think I read something about that, some time ago.
[06:21] <TunaTom> lemme have a look
[06:21] <travis> heh ok, cause i have flash installed, but the sound doesn't work
[06:21] <abattoir> Skrot: it's listed in the file, you just have to enable it
[06:22] <Skrot> abattoir: I tried to add "dapper-backports" to one of them
[06:22] <abattoir> Skrot: nope, make sure you do it properly... just adding 'dapper-backports' might not help, you need to add an entire line(entry)
[06:22] <abattoir> Skrot: it is already present, you just have to enable it
[06:23] <Skrot> okay
[06:23] <abattoir> !repos
[06:23] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:23] <abattoir> Skrot: ^^ might help you
[06:23] <TunaTom> travis: That seems to be the solution that once helped me when still on gentoo:
[06:23] <TunaTom> http://www.macewan.org/2006/06/01/howto-firefox-flash-video-sound-on-ubuntu-linux-dapper/
[06:23] <Skrot> abattoir: Yeah, I saw
[06:23] <Skrot> I've clicked "Full Upgrade" now and there is no visual feedback, but apt is locked
[06:24] <abattoir> Skrot: well, you cant run adept/apt/synaptic simultaneously
[06:24] <Skrot> I know
[06:24] <abattoir> Skrot: close adept, and try apt-get, it might be more informative
[06:24] <Skrot> ah, so adept always blocks apt?
[06:24] <abattoir> Skrot: for eg. if you did not add the entry properly, i'm not sure that adept would complain
[06:24] <abattoir> Skrot: yes, unless you are in read-only mode..
[06:25] <abattoir> (or so i think)
[06:25] <Skrot> okay
[06:25] <Skrot> makes sense
[06:25] <yarddog> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:25] <yarddog>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins but it is not going to be installed
[06:25] <yarddog> ???
[06:25] <travis> oh sweet, thanks tunatom that fixed it!
[06:25] <pawel> http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports/
[06:26] <travis> i had to open it with Kate instead of gedit
[06:26] <travis> but it did the trick
[06:26] <travis> got me the sound :-)
[06:27] <starpiso> ht help you
[06:27] <starpiso> [18:25]  <TunaTom> travis: That s
[06:27] <NOxON> Nice Travis :d
[06:27] <TunaTom> travis: nice.
[06:28] <NOxON> you know, it is the first time I am @ IRC :P
[06:28] <TunaTom> travis: "Kate instead of gedit": well, one has to work with what one gots ;)
[06:28] <zorglu_> q. i got a file and i would like to know to which package it belongs ? what is the apt or dpkg command for that ?
[06:28] <NOxON> I always use apt-get or aptitude :D
[06:28] <travis> tunatom:  yes i know, and i forgot that i don't have gnome but KDE
[06:29] <TunaTom> zorglu_: dpkg -S filename-search-pattern
[06:30] <TunaTom> zorglu_: from man dpkg
[06:30] <zorglu_> TunaTom: ok thanks
[06:30] <TunaTom> zorglu_: cheers.
[06:30] <TunaTom> (whispers to self): Easy problems today.
[06:31] <NeoSaki> Don't bring down the hammer
[06:31] <TunaTom> hu? wuzzat
[06:31] <NeoSaki> don't threaten the god
[06:31] <NeoSaki> ...dont do its...
[06:31] <zorglu_> cool i got another one :) how to make kdesu keep the password for a while, as sudo does
[06:33] <TunaTom> zorglu_: well, -n tells kdesu to _NOT_ store the passwd, so
[06:33] <TunaTom> I think storing it is default?
[06:34] <zorglu_> TunaTom: nope :)
[06:34] <zorglu_> at least not on kubuntu
[06:34] <zorglu_> try yourself, and the doc talk about a checkbox which isnt on kubunut
[06:35] <zorglu_> there is another one with kdesud ... but i find no config file
[06:36] <zorglu_> and the running deamon doesnt seems to have option
[06:37] <supernova> How can i monitor my total bandwidth usage?
[06:39] <zorglu_> supernova_: configuration of system guard, or other monitor like gkrelmm can do it
[06:40] <supernova_> i am using knetload but it can't save the statistics....each time the system is reboot it loses all previous data...any other package?
[06:40] <TunaTom> zorglu_: I found some info on it: apparently it doesn
[06:40] <TunaTom> t work:
[06:40] <TunaTom> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/36007
[06:40] <LeeJunFan> haha, this is fun. Put C64 emulator on one screen, vmware vista on another, and UAE (Amiga emulator on another) then spin the cube in XGL - nobody will know what the hell you're running.
[06:40] <TunaTom> supernova_: vnstat?
[06:41] <supernova_> not vnstat....anything else?
[06:41] <nivanson> LeeJunFan: ... but why? :'|
[06:41] <LeeJunFan> nivanson: shock and awe - just because you can with linux.
[06:42] <zorglu_> TunaTom: cool im not the only one to hit the issu e:)
[06:42] <notech> To each his own i guess
[06:43] <sorush20> what is the shortcut key for moving from one tab in konsole to another?
[06:43] <zorglu_> recently i hit several bugs and apparently multiple projects seem to pass over the hot patatoes :)
[06:43] <fdoving> sorush20: shift+right and left.
[06:49] <sorush20> fdoving: thank
[06:50] <TunaTom> zorglu_: perhaps these bugs are reserved for you to solve them :)
[06:50] <pielgrzym> !pympd
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pympd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <pielgrzym> !mpd
[06:51] <ubotu> mpd: Music Player Daemon, the name says it all. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.5-5.1 (dapper), package size 96 kB, installed size 332 kB
[06:55] <zorglu_> TunaTom: if ubuntu people do my job, i will do their :)
[06:55] <jang_> hi
[06:55] <zorglu_> and the first which tell me how to come back to a focusde mind, win... all my consideration :)
[06:56] <TunaTom> zorglu_: <moral_mode>hey, that's a community project, so you're supposed to contribute</moral_mode>
[06:56] <zorglu_> TunaTom: and i do :)
[06:56] <zorglu_> but not by code
[06:56] <TunaTom> zorglu_: focused mind, he? that's tricky. Don't know if you can do that without a shell...
[06:57] <zorglu_> hmm maybe it is the key
[06:57] <dmd> quick favour- could somebody with sysv-rc-conf installed please tell me what run levels loopback should be running on please?
[06:57] <zorglu_> like i should close all other sources of information, and gather in my shell to get back my focus
[06:57] <TunaTom> zorglu_: Try stepping back, go for a walk. Do sports or meditation (not the esoteric stuff, just the plain and simple ones).
[06:58] <zorglu_> TunaTom: hmm i tried that for a week :)
[06:58] <zorglu_> but thanks for your support :)
[06:58] <Skrot> !java
[06:58] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[06:59] <TunaTom> zorglu_: Well, didn't help that much, did it?
[07:01] <zorglu_> TunaTom: nope, i made the mistake of going to a 5day hollyday during a working phase, and now i have trouble coming back, but i force :) it is the issue when doing complex thing
[07:01] <zorglu_> you got an inertia to get up to speed
[07:02] <TunaTom> zorglu_: oh dear! that's the hardest problem i know!
[07:02] <TunaTom> getting back to "normal" after a pretty nice time,
[07:02] <zorglu_> and from 0 to this speed is really a painfull moment :) especially if you were at this speed 2weeks ago. you just fill dumb during the whole acceleration :)
[07:03] <zorglu_> ok i will go for a walk then :) walk slowly and mindfully :)
[07:03] <TunaTom> zorglu_: cu
[07:03] <cpk2> zorglu_: walk while thinking =)
[07:04] <zorglu_> htanks guys for your support :)
[07:04] <zorglu_> ok i go now :)
[07:08] <jpiccolo_> what is benfit of install installing as a server?
[07:09] <insparedes> !es
[07:09] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:09] <cpk2> jpiccolo_: you can script the installation
[07:09] <TunaTom> jpiccolo_: minimal install :)
[07:09] <jpiccolo_> oh ok
[07:10] <TunaTom> jpiccolo_: so x, kde, gnome etc.
[07:10] <jpiccolo_> only get what you need then right
[07:10] <cpk2> it doesnt come with a window manager
[07:10] <cpk2> and you can script the install so its easy to install on say 100 boxes
[07:10] <TunaTom> jpiccolo_: for most inexperienced users it would be _much_ less than what they need.
[07:10] <jpiccolo_> so pick that if i only want a http and ftp server
[07:10] <wincide> !es
[07:10] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:11] <TunaTom> jpiccolo_: or if you know what you do: I used it to have kubuntu from a ubuntu disc
[07:11] <jpiccolo_> or should i do a regular install but just min install with kde
[07:12] <TunaTom> jpiccolo_: how experienced would you say you are?
[07:12] <jpiccolo_> i have been using kubutu as my main rig for about 6 months
[07:13] <jpiccolo_> but i would like to have X
[07:13] <TunaTom> jpiccolo_: Then I'D say don't use the server install.
[07:13] <TunaTom> jpiccolo_: regular install and afterwards do a cleanup of what you don't want?
[07:14] <TunaTom> s/?/!/
[07:14] <jpiccolo_> ok, i tired DSM, gentoo, and fedora 5 and only got DSM to work
[07:14] <TunaTom> jpiccolo_:? you said you used ubuntu for 6 months?
[07:14] <TunaTom> jpiccolo_: gentoo without a console?
[07:15] <jpiccolo_> i tired the gentoo gui and non-gui install
[07:15] <TunaTom> ah
[07:15] <jpiccolo_> from there live cd
[07:15] <TunaTom> Well, I'd recommend using a regular install and then a cleanup afterwards.
[07:15] <jpiccolo_> i want to try a couple flavors being a comp sci major
[07:16] <TunaTom> Then you'd have a generic setup, which should work on most stations with the smallest hassle.
[07:16] <jpiccolo_> yeah, ok cool
[07:16] <TunaTom> Oh, as a educational experience ubuntu is not so very well.
[07:17] <jpiccolo_> yeah its pretty easy to work with
[07:17] <TunaTom> For that, you should _really_ take like 2 months and try linux from scratch very slow!
[07:17] <reon> hi
[07:17] <TunaTom> hi
[07:17] <jpiccolo_> i think i am going to try gentoo again
[07:18] <TunaTom> yeah, they have a great community!
[07:18] <reon> jpiccolo_ have a look at Sbayon Linux, based on Gentoo
[07:18] <reon> Sabayon Linux
[07:18] <jpiccolo_> do you know what flavor is used most in industy?
[07:18] <TunaTom> jpiccolo_: what are you about?
[07:19] <TunaTom> jpiccolo_: the most used flavor there is perhaps hpux or solaris
[07:19] <reon> In industry I would say Red Hat stuiff
[07:19] <TunaTom> jpiccolo_: but one unix is like the other.
[07:19] <TunaTom> mostly
[07:19] <TunaTom> except for package and process management
[07:20] <jpiccolo_> yeah basicly
[07:20] <reon> Have a look at this http://www.sabayonlinux.org/
[07:20] <jpiccolo_> many people use slack?
[07:20] <Junito> yes, the slackers :)
[07:20] <jpiccolo_> haha
[07:21] <TunaTom> jpiccolo_: www.distrowatch.com
[07:21] <Hapo> I'm btw the finnish translator of distro watch :)
[07:21] <jpiccolo_> yeah i was looking there
[07:21] <user__> hi everyone
[07:22] <Astroman> hey
[07:22] <TunaTom> Hapo: hey, that's cool. So you're kinda famous, huh?
[07:22] <Astroman> i run memtest yesterday and i got errors with test #5 what does it mean ! My ram is new it's OCZ platinium dual channel ???
[07:23] <Hapo> TunaTom: nope, no-one knows me from that; I've only translated the GUI strings a couple of times, that's all :) not any content
[07:23] <gronbaek> Hi people... can anybody help me getting kicker working again? Keep crashing with: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[07:23] <Hapo> but being a freelancer for Opera Software is something that I'm known for :)
[07:24] <TunaTom> Hapo: Well, I'm know for being a java developer.
[07:24] <TunaTom> But only by few people :))
[07:24] <gronbaek> Anyway that i can see what applet that makes it crash? Or do you think it's something else?
[07:25] <TunaTom> gronbaek: some applets destabilizy kicker.
[07:25] <Hapo> TunaTom: nice :)
[07:26] <Hapo> actually it's only some nerds that I'm famous among :P
[07:26] <insparedes> !es
[07:26] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:26] <TunaTom> gronbaek: try and mv the  configuration file, restart kicker and see if it works
[07:26] <Hapo> when the general public uses opera in finnish, it doesn't see my name anywhere.
[07:26] <Dannilion> Does anyone know if it is at all possible to get an Airgo wireless card to work in Kubuntu?
[07:26] <gronbaek> yes... thats whar i figured. But I cant figure out what applet. I have not installed anything new or made any changes...
[07:26] <TunaTom> Hapo: Well, I'd be happy if I had some nerds to be famous among :)
[07:27] <TunaTom> gronbaek: sometimes the configuration gets b0rked.
[07:27] <TunaTom> gronbaek: so just give it a try: mv the configuration and redo all your configuration work.
[07:28] <gronbaek> done... that works...
[07:28] <gronbaek> still getting the error... but kicker starts
[07:28] <travis> q.  Why does mozilla fire fox run so slow and konqueror run so fast?
[07:28] <TunaTom> gronbaek: cool. So I ... I ... helped?
[07:29] <Dannilion> Ok, that helped (a little :P)
[07:29] <TunaTom> YEEHA!
[07:29] <gronbaek> hm... kate makes the same error when it starts. Yes TunaTom... you are my hero now :-)
[07:29] <TunaTom> Hey hapo: Seen that? I'm someones hero!
[07:30] <gronbaek> Do you now ehat that error message means in general? Remember this is you first quest as a hero...
[07:30] <TunaTom> gronbaek: Well...
[07:30] <TunaTom> It means something didn't work.
[07:31] <gronbaek> yesyes... thanks alot
[07:31] <TunaTom> sorry, but "X-Error" could be almost everything.
[07:32] <alex_> hi
[07:32] <abattoir> someone getting the bad device error?
[07:33] <abattoir> !baddevice
[07:33] <ubotu> baddevice is If you are getting errors similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168  Then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[07:33] <TunaTom> Oh, now that you say it: the text was wrapped around..
[07:33] <TunaTom> The error message said : BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[07:33] <abattoir> TunaTom: you can safely ignore it
[07:33] <abattoir> or you can go to the above link and make sure you dont get it again
[07:34] <jpiccolo__> tunatom, do you still have the stuff in your config for a tablet pc
[07:34] <TunaTom> abattoir: actually it was gronbaek who had that error, i just didn't read his error description properly.
[07:34] <klerfayt> is it possible to configure fonts so that msttcorefonts will look like in windows but every other font will keep kubuntu's default settings?
[07:34] <abattoir> TunaTom: oh ok
[07:35] <abattoir> klerfayt: i'm not sure what you exactly mean, but you can set different fonts for different elements, like a window's title, menu etc.
[07:35] <gronbaek> but thanks anyway abattoir
[07:35] <abattoir> check Kcontrol/system settings->Appearance..->Fonts
[07:35] <abattoir> gronbaek: :)
[07:36] <gronbaek> but while i'm here... i also seem to be getting kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available! alot when starting kate and other kde applications.
[07:37] <gronbaek> Any links for that one?
[07:37] <abattoir> gronbaek: unless it prevents the app from starting i guess you can ignore it... does it come when you start kate as root?
[07:38] <murchadh> Hi all! Quick question, when going through Control Centre -> System Administration -> Users & Groups or System Services or Disk & Filesystems I get the KDE Crash Handler
[07:39] <murchadh> Can run kuser no prob otherwise... any ideas?
[07:41] <gronbaek> I havn't really noticed... i seems random. Can't get it right now. Lots of other errors.... but everythings seems to start.
[07:41] <JohnFlux> murchadh: file a bug report please with the full output from the crash handler
[07:41] <JohnFlux> murchadh: doesn:t sound very good
[07:55] <remar> kubuntu is shit
[08:00] <Hawkwind> remar: Please watch the language
[08:00] <mnb> this kubuntu dont installed my default language
[08:01] <mnb> bug..
[08:04] <ubuntu_> Hi, I am trying to install kubuntu and already experience an install issue. can someone please help?
[08:05] <murchadh> Thanks JohnFlux: Have filed a bug report @ https://launchpad.net/products/breezy-backports/+bug/61716
[08:05] <notech> ubuntu_: should state the issue, then people will know if they can help :)
[08:06] <ubuntu_> notech:  I was typing the error...  After preparing my hd, I set mount points but when I click on continue, it does not continue and tells me: "Filesystems used by the system (/,/boot, /usr, /var) must be reformatted for use by this installer
[08:06] <ubuntu_> so, what should I do?
[08:07] <soulrider> hi everyone1
[08:07] <notech> ubuntu_: and it gives no option for it to reformat them?
[08:08] <ubuntu_> yes, I can check partitions, but the partitions I wish to format ( / and swap) are already checked. The other two I do not wish to format which are (/boot and /home) are unchecked.
[08:08] <ubuntu_> moreover, the /boot partition is the first primary partition which already contains Windows XP. So, I set its mount point as /boot
[08:09] <notech> ubuntu_: ohh. sorry, i've only installed it once and wouldn't want to give you bad advice. out of curiosity, what filesystem are they?
[08:09] <ubuntu_> So, I have a total of 4 partitions: sda1 as being Windows XP and will be my /boot. Then sda2 = swap then sda5 = / and sda6 = /home (which already contains data)
[08:10] <ubuntu_> ext3
[08:10] <weedar> Uhm, can anyone see the page at http://dead.net in firefox in linux?
[08:10] <notech> um, doesn't make sense to me. you can't keep xp and also use it as /boot
[08:10] <satafterh>  why would my system stop mounting my xp partition on boot?
[08:11] <murchadh> ubuntu_: DON'T make your Windows Partition /boot
[08:11] <ubuntu_> so what should I do, then?
[08:11] <notech> weedar: yes, but it's blank.
[08:12] <murchadh> ubuntu_: You need two partitions, minimum to install Linux. One will be / and one will be swap. You could have more partitions for /us=r and /home and /boot but they can live in your / drive.
[08:13] <ubuntu_> so, do I have to create /boot swap and / ?
[08:13] <weedar> notech: thanks, that's the same behaviour I get :)
[08:14] <murchadh> from what you posted above sda5 will be / and sda2 will be swap. The installer will create /usr, /home and /boot, etc. for you. Make sure you don't allow the partitioner to format sda6 as you have data on it already.
[08:15] <murchadh> sda6 will be fine for /home as you already have it partitioned that way...
[08:17] <octan> hi all
[08:17] <ubuntu_> murchadh: so far I decided to create: sda1 = ntfs (existing) sda2 = /boot (new partition) sda3 = swap (new partition) sda5 = / (new partition) sda6 = /home (already existing) I will enable for format /boot swap and / Is this fine so far?
[08:19] <Dink> Has anyone tried 2.6.18 kernel ?
[08:20] <ubuntu_> murchadh: ?
[08:20] <murchadh> You only really need a /boot partition for kernel upgrading/testing I think, and it can be small, like 100mb. I dont use one.
[08:20] <ubuntu_> murchadh: solved it. thks
[08:20] <Hawkwind> Linux Britannia 2.6.18-01 #1 SMP Wed Sep 20 08:00:45 CDT 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:20] <Hawkwind> Dink: I have :P
[08:21] <Dink> Hawkwind did you have trouble with module-assistant ?
[08:21] <yarddog> when i sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop or kde, i keep getting broken package message and it will not install, any idea on this?
[08:21] <Hawkwind> Dink: Though I build my own from kernel.org kernels using a how-to on one of my forums
[08:22] <Dink> me 2 just having problems using latest ati 8.29.6 ... keeps giving me kernel headers not ofund... even though its there
[08:22] <Dink> think it might me a module-assistant problem
[08:22] <Dink> be*
[08:22] <Hawkwind> Ah I don't use ATI at all.  I have nvidia which worked like a charm :)
[08:23] <murchadh> I have hda as follows: hda1 ntfs winxp, hda2 vfat (FAT32 data partition), hda3 ext3 /, hda4 ext3 /home and my swap is on a different disk.
[08:23] <Dink> bastage :p
[08:23] <octan> anyone a expert on Kdm
[08:23] <octan> i need to startup two X from kdm  "kdmrc" one Xgl and one plain X when i login
[08:23] <octan> but i dont have no idea how i should do it..
[08:23] <Dink> or it might just be that is not fully compatible with 2.6.18 yet even though it says so :P
[08:24] <kristina> is there an irc chat 4 pc components i want to buy a new cpu
[08:24] <murchadh> yarddog: Have you tried apt-get update and apt-get -f install (as root via sudo)
[08:25] <octan> kristina there are many clients :P
[08:26] <yarddog> murchadh, yeah, ive tried different sources too
[08:27] <yarddog> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:27] <yarddog>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins but it is not going to be installed
[08:27] <yarddog> E: Broken packages
[08:28] <murchadh> yarddog: Did you try apt-get install kdegraphics-kfile-plugins
[08:28] <yarddog> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:28] <yarddog>   kdegraphics-kfile-plugins: Depends: libpoppler1-qt (>= 0.5.1) but it is not going to be installed
[08:28] <yarddog> E: Broken packages
[08:28] <paulo_> hello folks
[08:29] <yarddog> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:29] <yarddog>   libpoppler1-qt: Depends: libpoppler1 (= 0.5.1-0ubuntu7) but 0.5.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[08:29] <yarddog> E: Broken packages
[08:29] <murchadh> yarddog: Have you got any GUI (desktop) working?
[08:29] <yarddog> there's the problem
[08:29] <yarddog> yeah
[08:29] <yarddog> gnome
[08:30] <yarddog> gnome works great
[08:30] <paulo_> can i get a bit of support mounting a USB hard drive with two ext3 partitions on it?
[08:30] <paulo_> please!
[08:30] <Buffy^> easy dont push
[08:30] <paulo_> excuse me?
[08:30] <murchadh> yarddog: Have you tried adept or synaptic?
[08:31] <yarddog> murchadh, no
[08:31] <Buffy^> a very quick way to get a good responce is to vist www.ubuntuforums.org
[08:31] <txukie> hi everybody
[08:31] <Buffy^> !forums
[08:31] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[08:31] <txukie> !edgy
[08:31] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[08:31] <paulo_> i know the forums
[08:31] <Buffy^> !ext3
[08:31] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[08:32] <paulo_> mounting is my prob
[08:32] <paulo_> because of the two partitions
[08:32] <Buffy^> !fstab
[08:32] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[08:32] <yarddog> murchadh, here is the synaptic response:
[08:33] <yarddog> kubuntu-desktop:
[08:33] <yarddog>  Depends: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins but it is not going to be installed
[08:33] <paulo_> i get return code 32
[08:34] <kristina> do somebody know a url for a cpu channal
[08:34] <kristina> ??
[08:34] <TheGateKeeper> paulo_: are you trying to mount an ext3 partition?
[08:35] <paulo_> TheGateKeeper: yes, the HDD has 2 ext3 partitions and is connected via USB
[08:35] <paulo_> I have been trying without help and it ain't working
[08:35] <yarddog> murchadh, i found this in google: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-214424.html
[08:35] <paulo_> i am not a complete newbie, been using kubuntu for over 6 months now
[08:36] <paulo_> only a partial newbie lol
[08:36] <TheGateKeeper> :-)
[08:36] <paulo_> any help is greatly appreciated
[08:38] <murchadh> yarddog: Did Foxjwill's suggestion do it for you?
[08:38] <scion> any joy?
[08:38] <yarddog> murchadh, dont know how to force it
[08:39] <yarddog> i tried -f and it fails
[08:39] <scion> TheGateKeeper: so frustrating!
[08:40] <murchadh> yarddog: I'd try apt get install -f libpoppler1 and see what you get.
[08:41] <yarddog> i found the force option in the gui
[08:41] <yarddog> it downgraded it, dont know now what may be broke but ill try the kubuntu again
[08:41] <scion> please?
[08:42] <yarddog> murchadh, it worked, kubuntu-desktop is installing
[08:42] <yarddog> :P
[08:42] <MasterEvilAce> Anyone know a place that lists the processes (found in KDE System Guard), and says which are not indeed (and now to disable them)
[08:43] <murchadh> yarddog: Well done!
[08:43] <yarddog> :)
[08:43] <yarddog> google is my friend sometimes
[08:43] <yarddog> and irc
[08:43] <yarddog> thanks
[08:44] <murchadh> yarddog: Hope it runs and I hope you like it. I'm a K-man myself (if just not to be a g-man)!
[08:44] <yarddog> heh
[08:45] <scion> can i get a bit of support mounting a USB hard drive with two ext3 partitions on it?
[08:46] <murchadh> hi scion: Did you try mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mountpoint where mountpoint is something like /media/MyUSBDrive1
[08:47] <murchadh> scion: You could md /temp and then mount -t ext3 /dev/hda3 /temp
[08:48] <scion> murchadh: indeed i did - mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[08:49] <scion> murchadh: same output each time
[08:50] <pierreth> hello
[08:50] <scion> hello pierreth
[08:50] <pierreth> how are you scion?
[08:50] <Buffy^> Any one been to www.beatmaka.com and listened to the radio, its mint, love the dance section
[08:50] <scion> pierreth: head is wreaked over a usb problem!
[08:51] <murchadh> scion: Hotplug problem perhaps?
[08:51] <pierreth> scion: sorry
[08:51] <pierreth> usb 1 & 2?
[08:52] <pierreth> may be you have a mix of usb 1 & 2
[08:52] <pierreth> how can I fix the scroll bar in Firefox?
[08:53] <heinkel_112_> is there a command line e-mail client 'mail' for kubuntu?
[08:53] <scion> murchadh: tried turning on and off, tried using in diff usb ports
[08:53] <heinkel_112_> it is a very simple old unix thing?
[08:53] <heinkel_112_> but there are 9999 packages with names containing 'mail'
[08:53] <MasterEvilAce> pierreth: are you using Edgy?
[08:54] <scion> pierreth: the motherboard takes usb2 and the usb adapter cable uses usb2 also
[08:54] <pierreth> MasterEvilAce: No, I don't think so
[08:54] <pierreth> scion: do you have usb2 cables?
[08:54] <scion> scrollbar? whats up with it
[08:55] <MasterEvilAce> pierreth: See if you have System Settings - >Appearance -> GTK Styles        And there MIGHT be a section at the bottom talking about a Firefox scrollbar fix
[08:55] <pierreth> scion: I have two arrows at the bottom
[08:56] <pierreth> scion: the scrolling bar goes over the first arrow at the bottum
[08:56] <murchadh> heinkel_112: Try mutt! CHeck this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=15128
[08:56] <pierreth> MasterEvilAce: I do not have this section
[08:56] <tony_> #whois willey
[08:56] <scion> pierreth: yes, i got this one http://cgi.ebay.ie/New-USB-2-0-to-IDE-HDD-2-5-ft-Cable-with-Power-Adapter_W0QQitemZ200029636707QQihZ010QQcategoryZ41994QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[08:57] <heinkel_112_> murcadh i was recommended to use mail to test a sendmail mta
[08:57] <scion> and it works fine with a vfat single partition HDD
[08:57] <MasterEvilAce> pierreth: I am not sure, then. Edgy (the newest Kubuntu version.. which is alpha/beta/whatever) must have added it
[08:57] <scion> brb folks, dinner is burning
[08:58] <MasterEvilAce> pierreth: The section says it adds a file or something to firefox, to fix scrollbars
[08:58] <pierreth> MasterEvilAce: can you send me this file?
[08:59] <pierreth> MasterEvilAce: Otherwise, I will wait for the next version
[08:59] <pierreth> MasterEvilAce: I is not a big issue
[08:59] <MasterEvilAce> pierreth: let me look into what exactly it does, and what it is, i'll get it for you
[08:59] <pierreth> MasterEvilAce: :-)
[08:59] <heinkel_112_> murchadh: i think i found it, it is called mailx
[09:00] <pierreth> scion: you have a strange device, not sure this will work with Linux
[09:00] <murchadh> heinkel_112: Nice one, everyone is sorting themselves out today. Class!
[09:01] <osten> hello
[09:02] <pierreth> osten: hello
[09:02] <osten> I am a total linux newbie
[09:02] <osten> And something is terribly wrong
[09:02] <osten> Suddenly I can't use my ctrl button
[09:02] <osten> It just returns strange characters when I press it, like this: fh87Q
[09:03] <pierreth> osten: type 'xev'
[09:03] <osten> okay
[09:03] <pierreth> osten: in the command line
[09:04] <osten> okay, done
[09:04] <osten> I got an event tester
[09:04] <pierreth> osten: yes , test your control keys
[09:04] <osten> There's so many events when I press ctrl
[09:05] <reon> Anyone here know where to find the Kickoff start menu ?
[09:05] <pierreth> osten: what is the keysym for the control key?
[09:06] <pierreth> reon: You have lost the menu?
[09:06] <osten> hmm
[09:06] <klerfayt> reon: alt+f1
[09:07] <pierreth> osten: Look at the key press event
[09:07] <osten> I can't copy what it says :)
[09:07] <osten> But it spams KeyRelease event
[09:07] <osten> Like 50 every second I hold it down
[09:08] <osten> aha
[09:08] <abattoir> reon: i think that's a 'SuSE solution'
[09:09] <abattoir> reon: its not part of kde(at least for now), and kubuntu doesnt include it
[09:09] <pierreth> osten: what is the keycode of your control key?
[09:09] <yarddog> murchadh, it works wonderful ;P
[09:09] <osten> the keysum is first 0 then Odiaeresis then KP_Up then Q Then Control_L, then delete, then KP_Home 857
[09:09] <osten> looped
[09:09] <reon> Kickoff is part of Suse and it is being released into KDE. http://home.kde.org/~binner/kickoff/sneak_preview.html
[09:09] <osten> many different keys
[09:09] <reon> Wondering if their is a rpm out their somewhere
[09:10] <osten> and I just realized this all applies to the numpad enter key aswell :X
[09:10] <pierreth> osten: what is the keycode?
[09:11] <osten> many different ones
[09:12] <pierreth> osten: the keycode and the keysym is not the same, do you have many keycode?
[09:12] <osten> like, first 107 then 79 then 50 and so on
[09:12] <osten> spams loads of events even if i just tap it lightly
[09:12] <MasterEvilAce> um how do i auth with NickServ, or whatever?
[09:12] <pierreth> osten: the control key at the left or at the right?
[09:13] <osten> at the left
[09:13] <osten> and keypad return aswell
[09:13] <MasterEvilAce> ubotu nickserv
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nickserv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <MasterEvilAce> ubotu auth
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about auth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <osten> all other keys seem to work fine
[09:14] <Thorrn4> hello everyone, I have a problem, everytime I run adept, it gives me an error stating that I cant install any program because another program is running, but there is no other program
[09:14] <murchadh> scion: Check to see if hotplug is running as a service! See if it's listed when you run sudo sysv-rc-conf. This may not be related to your problem though.
[09:14] <pierreth> osten: type 'xmodmap -e "keycode 37 = Control_L"'
[09:14] <MasterEvilAce> pierreth: give me a second.. i think i found it.. i have to authenticate to PM you though
[09:14] <pierreth> MasterEvilAce: :-)
[09:15] <osten> okay, it returned nothing
[09:15] <pierreth> osten: is the key working now?
[09:16] <pierreth> MasterEvilAce: I cannot chat in private
[09:16] <osten> no :/
[09:16] <MasterEvilAce> pierreth:  lol
[09:16] <MasterEvilAce> pierreth: but you can read it, right?
[09:17] <pierreth> MasterEvilAce: yes
[09:17] <pierreth> osten: have you try to restart?
[09:17] <osten> Yes
[09:17] <osten> It didn't help
[09:18] <pierreth> osten: what is the last thing you did before getting in trouble?
[09:18] <murchadh> Thorrn4: There is a lock file leftover from a crashed/aborted session. Try "sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock" to delete it and try again.
[09:18] <osten> I think this came up around the time I was installing something into perl
[09:18] <MasterEvilAce> pierreth: okay, i'll paste to you what to edit in the PM.. but go into       ~/.mozilla/firefox/###.default/chrome   where ### is a random string of characters
[09:18] <pierreth> MasterEvilAce: OK
[09:19] <osten> It was some kind of rss thing I needed for another script
[09:19] <MasterEvilAce> pierreth: you should see userChrome.css and userContent.css ?
[09:19] <pierreth> MasterEvilAce: OK, wait
[09:20] <osten> I did "perl -MCPAN -e 'install XML::RAI'" but it didn't work, because I didn't have 'make'
[09:20] <pierreth> MasterEvilAce: I have two ###.default
[09:21] <MasterEvilAce> pierreth:  hmm.. are you using firefox with multiple profiles or something? (I think firefox supports multiple profiles)
[09:21] <osten> Is there some way to re-install without loosing data?
[09:21] <pierreth> MasterEvilAce: no
[09:22] <MasterEvilAce> pierreth: pick one for now.. and let/'s just do the same thing for both
[09:23] <pierreth> MasterEvilAce: OK
[09:24] <MasterEvilAce> pierreth: okay, so go into that ##.default/chrome folder
[09:24] <octan> hey kpersoanlizer is making me crazt,, it starts up every time i startup kde.. dosent help to complite it
[09:24] <MasterEvilAce> pierreth: you should see userChrome.css and userContent.css. if you don't, create the userChrome.css.. if you see them, then edit the userChrome.css in a text editor
[09:24] <pierreth> osten: type 'setxkbmap ca'
[09:24] <osten> okay
[09:25] <octan> if i try to uninstall it .. it wants to uninstall kde-base too ;C
[09:25] <octan> 'how can i fix this?
[09:26] <osten> hmm, that remapped some keys like my swedish letters and tilde button, but the ctrl problem persists
[09:27] <pierreth> MasterEvilAce: the files are now created, there were not there before
[09:27] <osten> i am thinking since this only applies to two buttons and the randomness of the keycode spam they generate that its a hardware problem
[09:27] <pierreth> osten: unplug and replug the keyboard
[09:27] <MasterEvilAce> pierreth: that's fine. you want to edit them both and put the same thing (what i'm sending you in PM) in both
[09:28] <osten> okay, no change
[09:28] <osten> should I try to boot windows and have a look if it works ther_
[09:28] <osten> +e
[09:28] <octan> setxkbmap se
[09:29] <osten> thanks, it's like it was before the other setxkbmap command
[09:29] <octan> i had issue with alt gr button.. fixed it with setxkbmap no :)
[09:30] <osten> but ctrl and numpad_return still generates tons of character spam
[09:30] <osten> that no thing didn't solve it ;) thanks tho
[09:30] <octan> thats for norwegian setup duh :P
[09:31] <osten> yeh
[09:31] <osten> Meh, this might be a random hardware failure
[09:31] <osten> I will check if the keyboard works in windows, brb
[09:31] <octan> yes it might be,,, did you find your keyboard in kcontrol?
[09:31] <osten> what's kcontrol?
[09:32] <octan> type it
[09:32] <osten> yes I did, it said command not found
[09:33] <octan> hmm kcontrol should be there
[09:33] <octan> odd
[09:33] <octan> what distro?
[09:33] <octan> lol
[09:34] <octan> erm i thought i was in #kde for a while
[09:34] <octan> :P lol
[09:34] <octan> to many tabs up
[09:34] <osten> :P
[09:34] <octan> apt-get install kcontrol
[09:34] <waldschatten> can't you add kcontrol with synaptic if it's not there?
[09:34] <osten> ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[09:35] <osten> is that my distro?
[09:35] <MasterEvilAce> kcontrol is a KDE thing isn't it?
[09:35] <octan> yes
[09:35] <osten> synaptic didn't find kcontrol
[09:36] <osten> oh
[09:36] <osten> apt not found :P
[09:36] <scion> back - emmm burn't pizza is very tasty :P
[09:36] <osten> I had that problem when I needed to install make too :P
[09:36] <waldschatten> check your sources list
[09:36] <scion> anyhow there is still no joy with this fecking usb hard drive
[09:36] <osten> hmm
[09:37] <waldschatten> dodn't remember the path
[09:37] <osten> maybe 'software preferences'?
[09:38] <pierreth> MasterEvilAce: it works!
[09:38] <scion> update your sources.list
[09:38] <osten> lol, this day started so good :D I just wanted an rss reader
[09:38] <abattoir> pierreth: hi :)
[09:38] <scion> here is the generator - http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:38] <MasterEvilAce> pierreth: hurray!
[09:38] <pierreth> abattoir: hi!
[09:38] <abattoir> osten: are you in gnome by any chance?
[09:39] <osten> i think so
[09:39] <pierreth> MasterEvilAce: It was working using the second default folder
[09:39] <osten> actually I am pretty sure :)
[09:39] <waldschatten> etc apt sources.list
[09:40] <osten> etc was not found :P
[09:40] <abattoir> osten: well no wonder you dont have kcontrol
[09:40] <scion> put a / before the etc
[09:40] <osten> oh lol
[09:40] <abattoir> osten: and he means the path, not a command
[09:40] <scion> so it is /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:40] <waldschatten> won't let me use slashes
[09:40] <abattoir>  /etc/apt/sources.list is the path to the file
[09:40] <osten> apt wasn't there either :P
[09:40] <abattoir> waldschatten: put a space before the first slash
[09:41] <osten> rather didn't work there either :)
[09:41] <waldschatten>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:41] <abattoir> osten: apt is not a command
[09:41] <waldschatten> okay
[09:41] <abattoir> osten: apt-get is
[09:41] <scion> try go to the path in konqueror to make sure
[09:41] <abattoir> scion: he's in gnome, so no konq.
[09:41] <murchadh> join #ubuntu
[09:41] <abattoir> osten: this is #kubuntu, a KDE channel, you might get more information at #ubuntu
[09:41] <osten> aha
[09:42] <abattoir> osten: but you are ofcourse welcome to stay here and install kubuntu ;)
[09:42] <scion> then then in Nautilus instead :p
[09:42] <abattoir> :P
[09:42] <waldschatten> I kept the automatix source list, seems to find more stuff than the default.
[09:42] <osten> yes well, nothing is working at the moment so I may need to like, reinstall or something
[09:42] <scion> i found http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic to be excellent
[09:42] <abattoir> osten: what do you mean nothing is working?
[09:43] <abattoir> osten: as i said, the command is apt-get, rather than apt
[09:43] <osten> aah
[09:43] <abattoir> osten: you wont find konqueror, kcontrol etc.
[09:43] <abattoir> since its Gnome
[09:43] <scion> so it looks like sudo apt-get update
[09:43] <abattoir> i'm not aware of Gnome's equivalents... so #ubuntu might be more informative
[09:43] <scion> or sudo apt-get install <app name here>
[09:43] <osten> worked!
[09:44] <scion> cool
[09:44] <osten> i did it in a root terminal
[09:44] <scion> lol
[09:44] <scion> thats what the sudo is for
[09:44] <osten> yes
[09:44] <scion> sudo = super user do
[09:44] <osten> I thought it was sudoku
[09:44] <Thorrn4> Im having a problem with k3b, Im trying to create an audio CD and every time I try to drag a .MP3 file into it, it says that its not a proper file; also when I tried gnomebaker, it said that it was missing a mpeg pluggin
[09:45] <scion> no there is sudo or su
[09:45] <abattoir> osten: heh, that's a puzzle/game :P
[09:45] <osten> :)
[09:45] <scion> lol
[09:45] <osten> I actually know what sudo is :P
[09:45] <waldschatten> any idea why sudo would work but su gives authorization failed messages?
[09:45] <osten> But I haven't used linux for more than maybe a week
[09:45] <abattoir> !info libk3b2mp3
[09:45] <ubotu> Package libk3b2mp3 does not exist in any distro I know
[09:45] <abattoir> !info libk3b2-mp3
[09:45] <ubotu> libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.14-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 96 kB
[09:45] <osten> anyway, kcontrol gave me a graphical interface
[09:46] <scion> i'll have to hammer the internet out of it 2mrw looking for a fix to my usb problem
[09:46] <abattoir> Thorrn4: ^^^ install that package
[09:46] <octan> KUBUNTU HAS A BUG WITH KPERSONLIZERRC
[09:46] <theHat> i need drugs
[09:46] <murchadh> Thorrn4: You need extra codecs like w32codecs. You could try to install Automatix and let it install the extra codecs.
[09:46] <abattoir> osten: using kcontrol in Gnome might not help...
[09:46] <Thorrn4> !Automatix
[09:46] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[09:46] <osten> ah
[09:46] <abattoir> osten: what do you actually want to do?
[09:46] <waldschatten> where would I find common bugs and fixes, like say for example the kubuntu screensaver thing.
[09:47] <abattoir> octan: that's a known issue...
[09:47] <osten> my left ctrl and my numpad enter both returns a spam of random character instead of their own
[09:47] <octan> abattoir, http://darcs.frugalware.org/darcsweb/darcsweb.cgi?r=frugalware-current;a=headblob;f=/source/kde/kdebase/fw-default-startkde.patch
[09:47] <scion> osten: try installing gnome-control-center
[09:47] <abattoir> waldschatten: if you have dapper-updates enabled, those bugs must have been fixed(w/ updated packages)
[09:47] <octan> thats a fix patch
[09:47] <abattoir> scion: it must be installed by default...
[09:48] <abattoir> osten: ok, would you please take my advice and go ask at #ubuntu ?
[09:48] <scion> abattoir: don't use gnome, i think its ugly
[09:48] <waldschatten> for some reason they're not getting fixed and I'm updated completly as far as auto update is concerned
[09:48] <osten> yess
[09:48] <scion> abattoir: damn right lol
[09:48] <osten> thanks alot everybody
[09:48] <scion> np
[09:49] <abattoir> osten: i'm not trying to be rood or something, this is a channel for KDE on ubuntu, for Gnome support, going to #ubuntu is better than being misled here
[09:49] <abattoir> *rude
[09:49] <abattoir> bleh
[09:49] <osten> absolutely
[09:49] <osten> thank you
[09:49] <scion> kubuntu rules!
[09:49] <abattoir> osten: do pop in if you decide to switch to KDE :P
[09:49] <i4get> yes
[09:50] <osten> maybe that will work better :)
[09:50] <waldschatten> (K)(X))Ubuntu on mine.
[09:50] <waldschatten> only really use KDE though
[09:50] <Kiongku> kde v/s gnome fight..
[09:50] <osten> Um, if you haven't got anything to do, could you teach me what the difference is between gnome and KDE?
[09:50] <theHat> fluxbox vs (kde + gnome) xD
[09:50] <abattoir> octan: yes, i think its already been fixed
[09:51] <i4get> kde makes it simple...gnome is a pain in the but on just opening files at time
[09:51] <Kiongku> simplicity v/s functionality?
[09:51] <octan> abattoir oh.. thats odd.. cuz i still have that issue
[09:51] <zorglu_> hehehe
[09:51] <zorglu_> sure :)
[09:51] <abattoir> osten: they are basically different desktop environments, since this is a KDE based channel, ppl would obv. side with it, if you go to #ubuntu, ppl might favour gnome...
[09:51] <theHat> i am so intelligent
[09:51] <i4get> lol
[09:51] <abattoir> but you have to experience both to see which you prefer
[09:52] <zorglu_> well lets not enter in the fight :) ubuntu make it very easy to try both with the livecd
[09:52] <waldschatten> I like both, but KDE is definatly more fun to play around on.
[09:52] <Kiongku> nah.. love blue colour.. brwon makes me sick
[09:52] <scion> as i did when i got ubuntu first
[09:52] <scion> and changed to kde in the same day
[09:52] <scion> well almost the same hour
[09:53] <abattoir> octan: edgy or dapper?
[09:53] <octan> dapper
[09:53] <waldschatten> nothing's left blue on my desktop, it's all battle angel alita.
[09:53] <octan> amd 64
[09:53] <abattoir> octan: and its KDE 3.5.4 right?
[09:53] <i4get> im a little edgy right now ...
[09:53] <abattoir> octan: do you have dapper-updates/dapper-backports enabled?
[09:53] <octan> abattoi yes i got kde 3.5.4
[09:54] <waldschatten> hmm, .4?
[09:54] <scion> battle angel is alright - not a patch on ghost in a shell
[09:54] <waldschatten> mine's .3
[09:54] <waldschatten> can't find any good gits themes.
[09:54] <theHat> who pay to kubuntu developers ?
[09:54] <abattoir> octan: i'm sleepy right now, :P could you please search for the bug on LP and see if its fixed, if it isnt, please submit your patch
[09:54] <mth`MAW> i
[09:54] <abattoir> thanks
[09:54] <mth`MAW> I
[09:54] <abattoir> !bugs
[09:54] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[09:55] <abattoir> bye, everyone
[09:55] <i4get> cya abattoir
[09:56] <waldschatten> what do I need to do to get the sound in my games to work? It's really choppy even after I set up all the alsa stuff.
[09:56] <theHat> waldschatten: killall artsd and be happy
[09:57] <osten> Oh, but it's just a different core, they can still be with the same window manager and panels etc so they look the same?
[09:57] <waldschatten> #debian
[09:57] <theHat> \m/ t00l \m/
[09:58] <tuxi> heyho
[09:59] <tuxi> anyone using / used ms vpc and kubuntu / ubuntu
[10:01] <waldschatten> why do my screensavers still not work even after I updated?
[10:01] <osten> abattoir: Is there any way to re-install into kde without loosing data?
[10:02] <i4get> osten? you can have gnome and kde on same machine if thats what you are asking
[10:02] <waldschatten> I selected the KDE packages in synaptic and it installed them
[10:02] <waldschatten> then logged out and changed my session to KDE
[10:02] <i4get> right
[10:02] <osten> actually, I just need to remove everything and start over
[10:02] <osten> this problem seems unsolvable :P
[10:02] <waldschatten> you have the kubuntu disc?
[10:03] <waldschatten> if not you'll just reinstall gnome with an ubuntu install
[10:03] <osten> okay
[10:03] <osten> But will I need to reformat my linux partition?
[10:03] <waldschatten> I think that's automatic
[10:04] <osten> Can I save my data anyway without making a new partition?
[10:04] <osten> or use some kind of partition program to split it and then merge them
[10:04] <vge> you should make seperate /home partition
[10:05] <waldschatten> I know you can split it, but not sure how to merge them.
[10:05] <waldschatten> can you use a new hard drive as a home partition?
[10:06] <theHat> waldschatten: yes
[10:06] <osten> oh, so the home can be put on another partition
[10:06] <theHat> mount it with /home mount point in /etc/fstab
[10:06] <osten> that's pretty nice
[10:07] <theHat> i know
[10:07] <waldschatten> afk
[10:07] <waldschatten> ack, used to MUDs
[10:07] <osten> thanks everybody
[10:08] <osten> I'll just reformat
[10:08] <theHat> lol
[10:08] <osten> hehe nothing worth saving I think
[10:08] <osten> bye
[10:08] <theHat> bye
[10:08] <vge> bb
[10:08] <theHat> i need drugs right now
[10:09] <waldschatten> lol
[10:09] <zorglu_> q. is there a apps able to read the .chm files ?
[10:13] <swatgoss> Hi all
[10:14] <swatgoss> some1 awake(n) in here ?
[10:15] <larson9999> wth?  both yahoo mail and hotmail are hanging at the login screen
[10:16] <swatgoss> as soon as some1 will wake up, can he tell me how to delete old kernels images (if it takes more than some KB on my disk ;))
[10:19] <|lostbyte|> Help, anyone here have the knoe how of syslinux ?
[10:20] <swatgoss> looks like everyone is sleeping ...
[10:20] <theHat> i am not
[10:20] <theHat> for 2 days
[10:20] <swatgoss> and u know a sure way to delete kernel image ? :p
[10:21] <theHat> rm -R /boot
[10:21] <theHat> ^^
[10:21] <swatgoss> with a GUI ?
[10:21] <theHat> swatgoss: i make a joke
[10:21] <theHat> sorry, it was a joke
[10:21] <theHat> if u do this, your machine will not boot
[10:21] <theHat> :)
[10:22] <swatgoss> rm = remove ?
[10:22] <theHat> yes
[10:22] <theHat> -R = recursive mode
[10:22] <swatgoss> delete all subdirectories in /boot ...
[10:22] <swatgoss> something like that ?
[10:22] <swatgoss> i don t use that much command line
[10:23] <theHat> swatgoss: yes
[10:23] <swatgoss> i m a bad linuser :p
[10:23] <theHat> yes
[10:23] <theHat> xD
[10:23] <theHat> cd /boot/
[10:23] <theHat> then ls -las to see whats inside
[10:23] <theHat> total 6198
[10:23] <theHat>    0 drwxr-xr-x  3 root root     232 2006-08-09 11:25 .
[10:23] <theHat>    1 drwxr-xr-x 24 root root     656 2006-09-04 15:15 ..
[10:23] <theHat>   56 -rw-r--r--  1 root root   55809 2005-08-16 09:41 config-2.6.8-2-386
[10:23] <theHat>    0 drwxr-xr-x  2 root root     352 2006-08-09 11:25 grub
[10:23] <theHat> 4220 -rw-r--r--  1 root root 4317184 2006-08-09 11:24 initrd.img-2.6.8-2-386
[10:23] <theHat>  849 -rw-r--r--  1 root root  865767 2005-08-16 12:14 System.map-2.6.8-2-386
[10:23] <theHat> 1073 -rw-r--r--  1 root root 1097554 2005-08-16 12:14 vmlinuz-2.6.8-2-386
[10:23] <swatgoss> is it possible to see it directly in Konquy or something like that ?
[10:24] <theHat> here you see initrd.img
[10:24] <theHat> swatgoss: with konkeror i think yes
[10:24] <swatgoss> i had in mine to request deletion from Adept ... but not really sure it will work
[10:24] <theHat> use adpet
[10:24] <theHat> *adept
[10:25] <swatgoss> ("have in mind" = french litteral translation :p)
[10:25] <theHat> if you dont know exactly what you are doing
[10:25] <swatgoss> i just want to make some free space on my linux partition
[10:25] <theHat> qparted
[10:25] <zorglu_> let avoid those kind of joke... some people may try the command
[10:26] <theHat> zorglu_: i explain to swatgoss what do this command
[10:26] <theHat> dont become angry :,(
[10:26] <swatgoss> if i request deletion of all 386 kernels i can continue to boot on my 686 images ? righr ?
[10:26] <theHat> snif snif :,(
[10:26] <zorglu_> im not angry, it is simply dangerous
[10:26] <swatgoss> yep :p
[10:27] <swatgoss> thats because i don t do everything everyone tell(s) me ...
[10:27] <swatgoss> sry for my english skills :p
[10:27] <theHat> swatgoss: you have to read documentation
[10:27] <theHat> this will be you pro master teacher ^^
[10:28] <theHat> all of us cant make mistakes ... and documentation too xD
[10:28] <octan> swatgoss, why didnt you pay more attantion to your english clases :p
[10:28] <theHat> j0!
[10:28] <theHat> xd
[10:28] <swatgoss> [noob bool=true]  where are docs ? [noob bool=false] 
[10:28] <theHat> /usr/share/doc
[10:28] <swatgoss> i don t pay more attention in classes cuz it don't speaks about linux ...
[10:29] <swatgoss> or just real life english :p
[10:29] <swatgoss> boring texts ...
[10:29] <swatgoss> boring teacher
[10:29] <octan> if (noob bool=true) {kick noobs ass;}
[10:29] <octan> :p
[10:29] <theHat> invite your female teachers to go out on nights
[10:29] <theHat> thats the way to follow
[10:29] <swatgoss> she the square of my age ...
[10:30] <swatgoss> i'm 18 yo ...
[10:30] <swatgoss> she is
[10:30] <octan> lol
[10:30] <theHat> thats not a problem
[10:30] <swatgoss> but could be MINE ...
[10:30] <theHat> ask your teachers to go out, drink & drugs a night ^^
[10:31] <theHat> sit her in front of your gnu/linux box and explain her that you are falling in love for her :D
[10:31] <swatgoss> i'm not really like that ...
[10:31] <theHat> you will learn, everybody learn so you can do it
[10:31] <kai> hey guys! does anybody know how to write an at with german keyboard settings on kubuntu?
[10:31] <swatgoss> what kind of drugs u use ?
[10:32] <alex_> hello  dos anyone can help me with ati and 3D aceleration?
[10:32] <klerfayt> !ati
[10:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:32] <swatgoss> theHat what kind of drugs ?
[10:32] <theHat> swatgoss: cannabis, coca, lsd, efedrina and more :)
[10:32] <swatgoss> ...
[10:32] <octan> gimme cannabis,
[10:32] <taif> hi
[10:33] <octan> i need i need
[10:33] <Makro_> where is the file "pppoe.conf?"
[10:33] <swatgoss> wanna make a joke like "i will never try this one" ... but its too late ...
[10:33] <theHat> lol xD
[10:33] <swatgoss> personaly i prefer GABA
[10:33] <theHat> whats that ?
[10:33] <swatgoss> slow down cerebral activity :p
[10:34] <alex_> i already read that help but still cant find the solution
[10:34] <alex_> the screen is very   slow
[10:34] <swatgoss> combined with some Stilnox
[10:34] <theHat> alex_: think about it, the solution is in yourself
[10:34] <theHat> o.o
[10:34] <octan> alex_  you are dping it wrong
[10:34] <swatgoss> ur brain still awake but ur body don t really respond ur orders :p
[10:34] <octan> *doing
[10:35] <octan> swatgoss what drug`?
[10:35] <theHat> swatgoss: i am like you say xDDD, i dont sleep for 2 days
[10:35] <waldschatten> canabis? You can have it all, I'm having enough trouble staying awake as is.
[10:35] <waldschatten> Give me amphetamines
[10:35] <octan> yea gimme it all :)
[10:35] <swatgoss> Alprazolam + Zolpidem
[10:35] <octan> me smoke
[10:35] <theHat> yes ^^
[10:35] <alex_> ?
[10:35] <theHat> j0j0j0j0
[10:35] <fdoving> so, what's the kubuntu part of this topic?
[10:35] <swatgoss> night one ?
[10:35] <waldschatten> lol
[10:35] <alex_> sorry i dont understand
[10:35] <octan> hehe
[10:35] <reagleBRKLN> is there a kde/qt version of limewire?
[10:35] <reagleBRKLN> java sucks so many resources
[10:35] <waldschatten> frostwire
[10:36] <waldschatten> works great for me
[10:36] <reagleBRKLN> waldschatten: yes, that's what i use, still java though :)
[10:36] <octan> reagleBRKLN sure.. if you make one
[10:36] <waldschatten> none that I know that don't use java
[10:36] <reagleBRKLN> appollon hasn't been updated in a while...
[10:36] <waldschatten> I usually stick to KTorrent
[10:36] <theHat> :|
[10:36] <theHat> ctorrent
[10:37] <theHat> thats rock
[10:37] <reagleBRKLN> yea ktorrent nice, though azureus still faster
[10:37] <theHat> ctorrent its tooooooo much faster
[10:37] <waldschatten> Now azureus seems to have problems with my java
[10:37] <swatgoss> after body drugs, binary drugs !
[10:37] <theHat> always
[10:37] <theHat> waldschatten: apt-get install ctorrent and be happy
[10:37] <theHat> :)
[10:37] <waldschatten> I'm running on jolt atm
[10:38] <theHat> whats that ?
[10:38] <theHat> o.o
[10:38] <theHat> jolt atm ?
[10:38] <reagleBRKLN> ctorrent has been updated since 2004, it supports DHT and such?
[10:38] <waldschatten> caffiene is your friend when you're too broke for stronger wake ups
[10:38] <waldschatten> at the moment
[10:38] <theHat> reagleBRKLN: its a light torrent client, all that you need
[10:39] <theHat> waldschatten: i take 7 cafias with 2 speeds as breakfast
[10:39] <waldschatten> I'm in the middle of a 7 day download
[10:39] <swatgoss> btw, some1 know how to resolve conflicts between 2 LAN connections under win32, in mp if necessary
[10:39] <waldschatten> only 3 gigs, shouldn't take that long.
[10:39] <swatgoss> or pm in english ...
[10:39] <theHat> great, 13 chapters from lain take me 7 days of downloading :S
[10:39] <fdoving> swatgoss: ##windows
[10:40] <swatgoss> winusers sucks :p
[10:40] <theHat> swatgoss: dont say that
[10:40] <swatgoss> don t wanna speaks with them !
[10:40] <jpiccolo_> second that
[10:40] <swatgoss> speak to ...
[10:40] <theHat> we have to respect other decitions, os
[10:40] <waldschatten> It'd take less time to rip the CDs, but my whole music collection is so scratched my drive won't read anything.
[10:40] <swatgoss> (i m also a winuser ... i suck ...)
[10:40] <theHat> lol xD
[10:41] <swatgoss> i got a win32 on my desk PC
[10:41] <waldschatten> WINE slows me down too much, makes the only windows app I still want to use unplayable.
[10:41] <theHat> :,(
[10:41] <theHat> whay
[10:41] <waldschatten> I miss Ultima Online
[10:41] <swatgoss> i didnt reinstalled Kubuntu on it for/since now ...
[10:41] <theHat> and what you need to run with wine ?
[10:42] <theHat> zombie.mp3 - theCranberries - playlist\ultrapr`o\
[10:42] <swatgoss> hummm french bool=true can u repeat ?
[10:42] <waldschatten> I'll tell you one thing though, windows would have a heart attack if I was running this many things at once.
[10:42] <theHat> lol xD
[10:42] <theHat> swatgoss: why you use wine ?
[10:43] <swatgoss> really ...
[10:43] <swatgoss> no apparent reason ...
[10:43] <theHat> lol
[10:43] <fdoving> I suggest you go to #kubuntu-offtopic with this cozy-talk and leave this channel on the support topic.
[10:43] <waldschatten> Whatever happened to the Linux UO client?
[10:43] <swatgoss> since/for some weeks i only use my desk PC only for MSN, P2P and musik ...
[10:43] <swatgoss> sometimes i run games
[10:44] <fdoving> waldschatten: google the three words 'uo linux client' and you'll find out.
[10:44] <swatgoss> Dawn of War run under wine ?
[10:44] <theHat> fdoving: nobody is asking, i am here to help so why we cant talk about ot ?
[10:44] <fdoving> theHat: correct, you can't.
[10:44] <ConsoleFx> how to login  as root from kubuntu???
[10:44] <lupine_85> swatgoss: no, but it does under cedega... more or less
[10:45] <waldschatten> rafkill is a nice little game.
[10:45] <jpiccolo_> consolefx, use sudo
[10:45] <swatgoss> bah, now i got my nux on my laptop on my bed
[10:45] <swatgoss> for the use i will make the next weeks
[10:45] <swatgoss> will be ok
[10:45] <Stardog> does it exist mobilephone managers for linus(ex. nokia, samsung etc) ?
[10:45] <theHat> sudo passwd root
[10:45] <fdoving> theHat: that's exactly what #kubuntu-offtopic is for. We try to keep this channel strictly to support.
[10:45] <Stardog> *x
[10:45] <ConsoleFx> jpiccolo_:  yep i used... but when i am changin a file in gui mode then its saying access denied...
[10:45] <swatgoss> but if i have to DL some files
[10:46] <swatgoss> i will have to use win ...
[10:46] <swatgoss> :p
[10:46] <lupine_85> in GUI, use kdesu instead
[10:46] <lupine_85> e.g. kdesu kate <somefile>
[10:46] <jpiccolo_> hehe use vi
[10:46] <swatgoss> lol
[10:46] <lupine_85> not emacs? ;)
[10:46] <swatgoss> Kate ...
[10:46] <ConsoleFx> then what i have to do ??
[10:46] <theHat> ba
[10:47] <ConsoleFx> to edit /etc/wvdial.conf file???
[10:47] <lupine_85> kdesu kate /etc/wvdial.conf
[10:47] <swatgoss> u really kdesu before ?
[10:47] <swatgoss> not sudo ?
[10:47] <ConsoleFx> nope.. i didnt try kdesu b4
[10:47] <swatgoss> sudo kate /etc/wvdial
[10:48] <lupine_85> don't use sudo for gui apps
[10:48] <swatgoss> always worked on all files i tried to open
[10:48] <lupine_85> it "can" break permissions
[10:48] <|lostbyte|> any one here knows syslinux ?
[10:48] <swatgoss> not me :p
[10:48] <jpiccolo_> yeah, look at your properties for adept, it uses kdesu
[10:48] <swatgoss> or i could know it, under an other name ...
[10:49] <ConsoleFx> then i have issue kdesu command right??
[10:49] <jpiccolo_> console, kdesu kate /etc/wvdial.conf    all one line
[10:49] <ConsoleFx> is there any console login after which i can start a root gui session??
[10:49] <ryan_> im having trouble finding my display config file
[10:50] <lupine_85> or do it in the Big K->Run Command bit
[10:50] <jpiccolo_> to me thats a bad idea
[10:50] <ConsoleFx> :p
[10:50] <lupine_85> just had exactly the same question in #ubuntu
[10:50] <ConsoleFx> coz in redhat its possible.. so just told
[10:50] <lupine_85> smells like teen spirit to me
[10:51] <waldschatten> finally got alien to work!
[10:51] <ConsoleFx> after issuing kdesu kate /etc/wvdial.conf will it ask me for root pass???
[10:52] <swatgoss> hope yes ^
[10:52] <swatgoss> ^^
[10:52] <waldschatten> I'm almost ready to do the happy dance, I can install the rpms now.
[10:52] <ConsoleFx> okie...
[10:52] <lupine_85> ConsoleFx: it'll give you a pretty box to put it in
[10:52] <ryan_> im trying to change the display setting on a desktop that give me any picture after it loades. im using a live cd
[10:52] <ryan_> that doesnt give me any picture**
[10:53] <waldschatten> how do you check the dependancies for a .deb package?
[10:53] <ConsoleFx> from where i can get the bind, bind-dev, caching name server "deb" files???
[10:53] <lupine_85> ryan_: can you boot in "safe video mode"?
[10:53] <swatgoss> why don't ask .deb package ? :p
[10:54] <lupine_85> waldschatten: it will show them in adept, or you can "apt-cache showdeps <package>"
[10:54] <keldon85> hi, i'm; just installing kubuntu 6
[10:54] <waldschatten> I can see them, but is there a way to check them against my system
[10:54] <ryan_> i cant even get to the logon screen
[10:54] <waldschatten> I'm in kpackage
[10:54] <keldon85> problem is that in the normal graphics installation it does not recognize my monitor properly and sees it as 640x480
[10:54] <swatgoss> 640 ?
[10:54] <swatgoss> on a live CD?
[10:54] <keldon85> yes
[10:54] <keldon85> but the safe graphics installation mode is fine
[10:54] <swatgoss> can t u specify a better resolution before boot ?
[10:54] <lupine_85> then use the safe mode
[10:55] <ConsoleFx>  from where i can get the bind, bind-devel, caching name server "deb" files??
[10:55] <waldschatten> mine did that untill I installed the ATi drivers
[10:55] <fdoving> ConsoleFx: from the repos.
[10:55] <fdoving> !repos
[10:55] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:55] <keldon85> but if there are no graphical restrictions, limitations in safe mode, and the normal one has problems then why is the safe mode not the default
[10:55] <ConsoleFx> okie.. thnx...
[10:55] <fdoving> ConsoleFx: the packagename for bind 9, is bind9.
[10:56] <waldschatten> can you open a package from the home directory with adept?
[10:56] <keldon85> because many people would have found the installation VERY problematic since the installation app is bigger than that
[10:56] <fdoving> ConsoleFx: if you want the .deb files you can also search for it at packages.ubuntu.com
[10:56] <ryan_> how do i change to safe video mode....after it shows the kubuntu loading screen it just goes blank.....can i do that from the grub
[10:56] <ConsoleFx> u mean its deb name is bind9**.deb???
[10:56] <keldon85> ryan: with me its during installation
[10:57] <ConsoleFx> fdoving: u mean its bind9.deb???
[10:57] <keldon85> but i'm sure that the default settings for the boot loader has failsafe
[10:57] <fdoving> ConsoleFx: no, search http://packages.ubuntu.com
[10:57] <ConsoleFx> okie fdoving
[10:57] <lupine_85> apt-get fetchonly might work
[10:57] <lupine_85> unless I'm getting portage commands mixed in again
[10:58] <fdoving> fetchonly? hmm.
[10:58] <fdoving> never heard of.
[10:58] <waldschatten> can I install a downloaded package with adept?
[10:58] <fdoving> -d might do the same,.
[10:58] <ConsoleFx> to install the bind.deb what command i have to use??? #sudo dpkg -i bind.deb???
[10:58] <fdoving> if you're thinking about "just download without install"
[10:58] <lupine_85> ConsoleFX/waldschatten: right-click on it and select installf rom the kubuntu package manager :)
[10:58] <fdoving> ConsoleFx: yes.
[10:58] <ConsoleFx> okie
[10:58] <ConsoleFx> thnx
[10:58] <ryan_> ive installed...i was messing around with the res and refresh rate and on one option it want blank and i couldnt get a picture. normaly if you hit the esc button it will revert to the orriginal display but  it didnt so i restarted and got nothing
[10:59] <waldschatten> kpackage just repetedly asks me for my password
[10:59] <keldon85> i am noticing problems with the install process for kubuntu 6 ... who should I address them to
[11:00] <ConsoleFx> is there any link from where i can get my display driver for linux???
[11:00] <waldschatten> I've put in the root password five times and it's still asking me for it
[11:00] <XTorchedX> put it in right then waldschatten
[11:00] <lupine_85> waldschatten: you use your user password
[11:01] <lupine_85> not the password you've set for the root account
[11:01] <lupine_85> (kapackage will use sudo to get root privs, and sudo uses your user password)
[11:01] <keldon85> ConsoleFX: are you currently trying to install kubuntu?
[11:01] <ConsoleFx> keldon85:  no.. its installed already
[11:01] <waldschatten> nope, same problem
[11:02] <lupine_85> question - is it su-do, or su-dow ?
[11:02] <lupine_85> waldschatten: caps lock>
[11:02] <ConsoleFx> the vdo movies sux sometimes.. so i think its for the display driver...
[11:02] <waldschatten> not on
[11:02] <lupine_85> then shut it down and run the whole program as root - e.g. kdesu kpackage
[11:03] <waldschatten> and it's asking for root password
[11:03] <keldon85> ConsoleFX:  help:/kubuntu/desktopguide/hardware.html
[11:03] <dudemeister> hiho. anyone knows why xrandr does not work in kubuntu? says that the extension is missing....
[11:03] <mnb> ufa, passei um aperto danado
[11:04] <lupine_85> espanol?
[11:04] <mnb> fui configurar o X e o ambiente grafico no queria iniciar mais.
[11:04] <lupine_85> !es
[11:04] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:04] <keldon85> hmmm, doesn't kubuntu typically have read/write access to other linux partitions during live boot?
[11:05] <mnb> !br
[11:05] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[11:05] <lupine_85> keldon85: same as any other mount, I guess
[11:05] <lupine_85> ah, portuge^s :)
[11:05] <ConsoleFx> where are the deb packages to download for kubuntu??? give me the url plz
[11:05] <lupine_85> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool
[11:05] <keldon85> nor nomier keldon ;)
[11:06] <waldschatten> It worked, installing.
[11:06] <keldon85> ^^ that's the only portugese I know  ... well i can say a few other phrases but i for sure can't spell them
[11:06] <waldschatten> Why do I have so many problems with passwords, su won't even work in konsole.
[11:06] <keldon85> waldschatten: you don't use su
[11:07] <keldon85> anything that needs to be done under root, start with the command sudo
[11:07] <TheGateKeeper> waldschatten: sudo su
[11:07] <TheGateKeeper> ^^^ if you must
[11:07] <mnb> algum aqui fala portugues ?
[11:08] <keldon85> TheGateKeeper: ooh, you know i never thought of that
[11:08] <ConsoleFx> which is the correct bind9.deb file for 32bit???
[11:08] <keldon85> "_"
[11:08] <keldon85> i mean ^_^
[11:08] <keldon85> the other one looked quite feminine
[11:08] <lupine_85> really?
[11:09] <lupine_85> looked like bushy eyebrows to me
[11:09] <keldon85> well ^_^ is like a laugh ... "_" comes across as eye lashes
[11:09] <lupine_85> ah, eyelashes...
[11:09] <ConsoleFx> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/bind9/ here are lots of deb files... :confused: which one i should download for 32bit laptop???
[11:09] <lupine_85> ConsoleFX: depends
[11:09] <lupine_85> why not just apt-get install bind9 ?
[11:09] <swatgoss> eyebrows ... hummm it means the "small hairs" (poils in french) all over the eyes ?
[11:10] <SonicChao> Isn't there a Qt alternative to GDebi Package installer?
[11:10] <lupine_85> SonicChao: kubuntu package manager
[11:10] <lupine_85> right click on the .deb and use the menu idtem
[11:10] <ConsoleFx> i dont have internt in that kubunt right now .. so i have to download the exact bind.deb file ...
[11:10] <h3sp4wn> dpkg -i should be fine
[11:11] <SonicChao> I mean a GUI interface
[11:11] <SonicChao> Like GDebi's
[11:11] <lupine_85> you'll have difficulty getting all the dependencies
[11:11] <MasterEvilAce> GUI Interface is redundant :P
[11:11] <ConsoleFx> :(
[11:11] <lupine_85> on a linux PC that has internet, do...
[11:11] <h3sp4wn> gui is a waste of time
[11:12] <lupine_85> apt-cache clean && sudo apt-get -d install bind9
[11:12] <lupine_85> all the deps will be in /var/cache/apt/archives
[11:12] <ConsoleFx> then if i will dowload all deb from the bind9 folder and will run a dpkg -i bind09.deb will solve all my problem????
[11:12] <lupine_85> no :)
[11:12] <ConsoleFx> lol
[11:12] <ConsoleFx> :(
[11:12] <ConsoleFx> okie
[11:12] <ConsoleFx> then what should i do..
[11:12] <SonicChao> ...
[11:12] <h3sp4wn> just mirror the archive onto a usb harddisk
[11:13] <OOD> SonicChao: right click on the deb file, select the package menu and select install
[11:13] <SonicChao> I don't want to use the command line. That's why I wanted one like GDebi. D=<
[11:13] <ConsoleFx> okie...
[11:13] <lupine_85> bind9 has 15 dependencies... the "apt-cache clean && sudo apt-get -d install bind9" mentioned ^up there^ will get them for you#
[11:13] <h3sp4wn> If you want to avoid the commandline use linspire or some such
[11:13] <ConsoleFx> okie cool...
[11:13] <lupine_85> SonicChao: am I invisible? ;)
[11:13] <SonicChao> =p
[11:13] <SonicChao> I don't always aviod it. That's not exactly the point.
[11:13] <lupine_85> [22:10]  <lupine_85> SonicChao: kubuntu package manager
[11:13] <ConsoleFx> but for that i must have internet right connectted right??
[11:14] <SonicChao> Lunar_Raven: How do I know what that means? XD
[11:14] <ConsoleFx> lupine_85:
[11:14] <lupine_85> ConsoleFx: on at least one computer, yes
[11:14] <waldschatten> okay, now that I've got installation to go through, one last question.
[11:14] <lupine_85> you obviously have internet atm...
[11:14] <waldschatten> How do I get the screensavers to work
[11:14] <h3sp4wn> Or burn dvd (has all of main on it)
[11:14] <h3sp4wn> +the
[11:14] <waldschatten> I updated, it should be fixed, but it's not
[11:15] <ConsoleFx> okie.. i wil try...
[11:16] <ConsoleFx> in ubuntu there is a matrix screensaver... can i get the screensaver in kubutnu also???
[11:17] <SonicChao> ConsoleFx: To my knowledge, no. That's a gnome-screensaver, which shouldn't work in KDE
[11:17] <swatgoss> ConsoleFx yop yop yop !!! gggggooooood question !
[11:17] <swatgoss> :'(
[11:18] <SonicChao> swatgoss: Read above. ^^^^
[11:18] <ConsoleFx> then how we can run that screesaver??? that scr is awesome frnds :)
[11:18] <ConsoleFx> isnt there any ways to get that screensaver for kde??
[11:18] <SonicChao> ConsoleFx: Not sure. If you isntall gnome-screensaver and run it from Konsole it may work.
[11:18] <SonicChao> It would be slow though.
[11:18] <ConsoleFx> :(
[11:18] <SonicChao> If it even works at all.
[11:18] <swatgoss> SonicChao, i saw, -> :'(
[11:19] <MasterEvilAce> in konversation's auto-identify.. what do i put for SERVICE?
[11:19] <MasterEvilAce> NickServ?
[11:19] <SonicChao> MasterEvilAce: #konversation
[11:20] <keldon85> I had the matrix screensaver installed with mandriva
[11:20] <SonicChao> keldon85: With KDE?
[11:20] <ConsoleFx> keldon85:  is it deb???
[11:20] <ConsoleFx> then plz upload somewhere plz
[11:20] <keldon85> in KDE
[11:20] <deR_Ed> hi
[11:20] <ConsoleFx> can u share plz
[11:21] <ConsoleFx> keldon85:  u have that matrix screensaver of deb????
[11:21] <ConsoleFx> can u plz share keldon85
[11:21] <ConsoleFx> ??
[11:21] <keldon85> well it pretty much just came with it ... but then again having said that I did also install gnome aswell ... but it was all working under kde
[11:21] <OOD> KDE screensavers: http://www.kde-apps.org/index.php?xcontentmode=30&PHPSESSID=b3f35830b9956890bcf57eb5f78621a2
[11:21] <OOD> there should be a matrix one there :)
[11:21] <ConsoleFx> coool... that gnome scr r0x
[11:22] <keldon85> ok, got to restart now ... kubuntu has installed
[11:23] <motorcitymadman> !nick
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nick - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:29] <Kr4t05> That's not cool.
[11:30] <cannonball> Painful I believe is the word.
[11:30] <shegman> why is everyone leaving
[11:31] <cannonball> shegman: netsplit, a server, probably ours, temporarily lost connection to the other irc servers in the network.
[11:31] <cannonball> It happens occassionally, and in a minute or two, this one will probalby get connected back into the network.
[11:31] <Kr4t05> See?
[11:32] <SonicChao> oo;
[11:32] <swatgoss> fiou
[11:32] <Admiral_Chicago> ha
[11:32] <ConsoleFx> i mean as  we are in kde so we have to search some matrix screensavers.. coz we know we cant get that scr's kde edition :lol: SonicChao
[11:32] <Kr4t05> Welcome back, people.
[11:32] <Admiral_Chicago> Kr4t05, massive join?
[11:32] <Admiral_Chicago> haha
[11:32] <Kr4t05> Admiral_Chicago: Huge-ass split.
[11:32] <Kr4t05> It was cool.
[11:32] <Admiral_Chicago> i noticed
[11:33] <Admiral_Chicago> dinner now
[11:33] <Admiral_Chicago> later
[11:33] <ConsoleFx> may be some irc flooder..
[11:33] <swatgoss> i don t think so
[11:33] <llxcamxll> yahoo room booter
[11:33] <swatgoss> was talking to him on kubuntu-fe
[11:33] <swatgoss> fr
[11:33] <rikhard> can anyone help me on adept? please
[11:33] <swatgoss> didn't look like a flooder ...
[11:33] <swatgoss> adept ?
[11:34] <swatgoss> to do ?
[11:34] <rikhard> i'm trying to update
[11:34] <ConsoleFx> nope there are some irc booters too
[11:34] <rikhard> but there are some packages that if i select them
[11:34] <rikhard> i got a message break
[11:35] <dein> well guys, its been fun, but i think im going back to suse
[11:35] <dein> at least on one of my laptops
[11:36] <grothesk> Hi!
[11:36] <dein> hi grothesk
[11:36] <grothesk> Are there issues with nvidia-glx?
[11:36] <gilesroberts> Hello
[11:36] <rikhard> for instance k9copy package and others
[11:37] <dein> or groteque
[11:37] <gilesroberts> I've just installed ubuntu on vmware.
[11:37] <dein> how so grothesk
[11:37] <gilesroberts> The windowing performance is slow
[11:37] <grothesk> My screen goes dark, when kde ist starting.
[11:37] <grothesk> It never did that before.
[11:37] <gilesroberts> Does anybody know how I turn off full screen window dragging?
[11:38] <grothesk> Reconfigured xorg.conf and so on. But nothing works. Switching back to 'nv' does the job.
[11:39] <dein> try nvidia-xconfig grotesk
[11:39] <dein> in the konsole
[11:39] <MasterEvilAce> grothesk: framebuffer problem? try disabling it?
[11:39] <dein> sudo preceding it
[11:39] <grothesk> MasterEvilAce: FB is disabled.
[11:40] <MasterEvilAce> gilesroberts: System settings-> Window behavior -> Moving..  UNCHECK "Allow moving of maximized windows"
[11:40] <MasterEvilAce> grothesk: Is it continually black? The screen never comes up period, even though KDE is loaded?
[11:42] <grothesk> MasterEvilAce: Exactly
[11:42] <grothesk> I just tried nvidia-xconfig
[11:42] <grothesk> Now it is completely dark, I can't even change to tty
[11:42] <mark_2> reboot and see if that fixes it
[11:43] <mark_2> hmm weird
[11:44] <grothesk> Rebooting now. But i doubt I will be successfull
[11:44] <grothesk> Maybe I should cachange kernel?
[11:44] <grothesk> Right now im using a K7 kernel.
[11:46] <Zaire> does anyone know where I can find
[11:46] <Zaire> the location of the directory of C header files that match my current running
[11:46] <Zaire> kernel?
[11:46] <grothesk> :-( Rebooting was no succes..
[11:46] <MasterEvilAce> grothesk: K7 is for AMD processors i believe.. is that what you have?
[11:46] <grothesk> Sure Athlon XP 1600+
[11:48] <grothesk> How do i avoid starting X with a bootcommand?
[11:48] <MasterEvilAce> grothesk: since it still works.. and works when you use NV.. i'd imagine it's something video driver related
[11:48] <Zaire> you know what I can't believe is I was on a casemod forum and some guy actually said that the AMD k6 was better then the K7 and K8's lol
[11:48] <MasterEvilAce> crap i have to go, sorry
[11:49] <grothesk> Because right now, I can't do anything. And I don't want to boot knoppix in order to turn back to nv
[11:49] <ConsoleFx> frm whre i can get mp3 codec for playing mp3 files??
[11:49] <sinpath> ok i need help getting linux to work my all-in-one hp printer?
[11:49] <grothesk> !restricted
[11:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:50] <TheGateKeeper> ConsoleFx: if you are using the xine engine then install libxine-extracodecs
[11:50] <grothesk> How do I set a differen runlevel during boot?
[11:51] <ConsoleFx> i have kafeine ... and its in default
[11:51] <Zaire> you don't set the run level with the new distro's as far as I know
[11:52] <Zaire> might be able to edit the bootloader file though
[11:52] <Zaire> you have to find the right line in the boot loader and add like & init <runlevel 1,2, or 3>
[11:53] <h3sp4wn> grothesk: /etc/inittab as always
[11:53] <lupine_85> default is 2... but 2-5 are identikit
[11:53] <grothesk> h3sp4wn: But I don't get a console at all.
[11:53] <lupine_85> just adding the number works, IIRC
[11:53] <Zaire> actually default run level is 5 for graphical 2 is a cli run level
[11:53] <lupine_85> init= tells the kernel what binary to run as init
[11:54] <lupine_85> erm, no
[11:54] <sinpath> help with getting linux to work my hp all in one???anyone???
[11:54] <grothesk> So there are no different RL like in suse linux?
[11:54] <Samuli^> Default is 2 I think.
[11:54] <Samuli^> and 1 is definately cli/single user
[11:54] <lupine_85> id:2:initdefault:
[11:54] <lupine_85> 2-5 are identical
[11:54] <lupine_85> 1, s and S are different (obviously)
[11:55] <Zaire> run level 1 it used for like root stuff 2 I can't remember 3 is standard cli like in the gui 5 is the gui 6 is restart and 0 is shutdown
[11:55] <lupine_85> just boot into single mode and edit a runlevel, then boot into that
[11:55] <lupine_85> Zaire: that might be a standard, but it's not real life
[11:55] <grothesk> Zaire: That is in Suse, for example. But not in kubuntu.
[11:55] <lupine_85> s or S is shutdown, anyway
[11:55] <Zaire> run levels are all the same in diff distros
[11:55] <lupine_85> no they aren't :)
[11:55] <grothesk> Zaire: No.
[11:56] <h3sp4wn> Just configure them as you wish using update-rc.d or sysv-rc-conf (I have mine set up in a normal way)
[11:56] <Zaire> for the basic 6 they are
[11:56] <lupine_85> seriously, check out /etc/rc?.d
[11:56] <grothesk> Zaire: You are wrong.
[11:56] <Zaire> or rather the ones I mentioned
[11:56] <lupine_85> see if you can spot any differences between rc2.d and rc5.d, for instanc
[11:56] <h3sp4wn> Just set them up as you want
[11:56] <Zaire> how so Ive had to use those run levels in multiple distros and they all look the same to me
[11:57] <lupine_85> when was the last time you used it in ubuntu/debian?
[11:57] <vlt> Hello. I try to playback audio with amaroK. Can anyone tell me how to set the alsa device amaroK should use?
[11:57] <Zaire> about a month ago
[11:57] <tony_> how do i make a program a default program ??? i installed VLC and i want this program to be default program with i click on movie :)
[11:58] <lupine_85> so perhaps you can explain why S99kdm is in /etc/rc2.d and /etc/rc5.d ?
[11:58] <vlt> tony_: right click, open with ..., select program, activate checkbox to remember that as default
[11:59] <tony_> thanks vlt , how can i do that if movie is on internet and i have to click on the link to watch the movie ???
[11:59] <Zaire> I just use the run levels so Im just saying what Ive seen in my use so whatever
[11:59] <tony_> using firefox browser :)
[12:00] <lupine_85> and I'm just saying that the way your runlevels are set up aren't the ubuntu default, and so it isn't useful to make that assumption when giving support - so whatever ;)
[12:00] <Zaire> and if you know so much could you tell me where the C header files are located so I can finish configuring my vmware
[12:01] <lupine_85> C header files? Don't you mean kernel headers?
[12:01] <h3sp4wn> the c header files are in /usr/include (afaik)
[12:01] <lupine_85> (assuming you're trying to compile the kernel module for vmware-player)
[12:01] <Zaire> not player workstation
[12:02] <sinpath> help with getting linux to work my hp all in one???anyone???
[12:02] <h3sp4wn> He wants to know where the c header files are ? I thought
[12:02] <lupine_85> S/he does. I'm thinking s/he is going to try and build a kernel module with them...
[12:02] <lupine_85> ...could be wrong, though
[12:02] <lupine_85> sinpath: is it supported?
[12:02] <lupine_85> (www.linuxprinting.org)
[12:02] <sinpath> i dont know
[12:03] <lupine_85> OK... Big K->System Settings->Printing->Add Printer
[12:03] <Zvezdichko[NA] > Wow. Just saw that there's a MS Access variant for Linux- Kexi . Is that good
[12:03] <Zaire> yea its trying to build a kernel module but it need th directory
[12:03] <lupine_85> first you need to install linux-headers
[12:03] <lupine_85> then it should pick them up automagically
[12:03] <sinpath> ok how do i do that?
[12:03] <Zaire> umm it might i'll try
[12:03] <lupine_85> sinpath: follow the action path - e.g. click the big k, go to system settings, etc...
[12:04] <tony_> is there any way to make a program default program ?
[12:04] <lupine_85> erm, "K menu", not big k :)
[12:04] <h3sp4wn> the c header files is libc6-dev (not linux-headers)
[12:04] <lupine_85> Zaire: if not, then they'll be in /lib/modules/(kernel version)/build
[12:04] <Zaire> hmmm according to adept the linux kernel headers are already installed
[12:05] <MetaMorfoziS> bb all
[12:05] <lupine_85> so "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`" doesn't install anything?
[12:06] <lupine_85> if not, then just give it the path mentioned above. if it does, then you've now got your kernel headers :)
[12:06] <sinpath> ok it read as a 1300 & not a 1350 all-in-one
[12:07] <lupine_85> that's fine
[12:07] <sinpath> it is?
[12:07] <Xcalibur> yo
[12:07] <lupine_85> usually :)
[12:07] <sinpath> ok  thanks
[12:07] <Zaire> ok for some reason its letting me apt it despite the fact that adept says its there already
[12:07] <Xcalibur> I have a firewall called fiaif, how do I use it?
[12:07] <lupine_85> if it detected it as that, give it a try - worst-case scenario is that you waste a peice of paper
[12:07] <lupine_85> Zaire: you probably didn't have the correct version installed
[12:07] <lupine_85> you do now, so you can make that kernel module
[12:07] <sinpath> haha thanks man
[12:07] <Xcalibur> ?
[12:08] <Zaire> I just had whatever was defaulted
[12:08] <lupine_85> by default, they're not installed at all
[12:08] <Zaire> and its still not picking up so it must need the directory manually input
[12:08] <Zaire> ....well thats odd then
[12:09] <Xcalibur> anyone?
[12:09] <Xcalibur> or does anyone have a recommended firewall
[12:09] <horacio> shorewall
[12:09] <Xcalibur> ok, is there a GUI for it?
[12:09] <horacio> it has a plugin for webmin
[12:09] <lupine_85> software, not hardware ;)
[12:10] <Xcalibur> whats that,  a webserver?
[12:10] <lupine_85> firestarter is a frontend for iptables
[12:10] <horacio> so you can set up it by a web explorer ^^
[12:10] <lupine_85> shorewall is a linux distribution
[12:10] <Xcalibur> o
[12:10] <lupine_85> or BSD, I forget which
[12:10] <Xcalibur> I had the firewall
[12:10] <horacio>  grrrr
[12:10] <lupine_85> !firestarter
[12:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[12:10] <Xcalibur> but I got rid of it for fiaif
[12:10] <horacio> !shorewall
[12:11] <Xcalibur> where can I get firestarter, in adept?
[12:11] <Zaire> so this is what I keep getting http://pastebin.ca/179095
[12:11] <horacio> lupine_85: here you have your "gnu/linux distribution" www.shorewall.net