| mjg59 | zul: The stuff in drivers/ata is just stuff that used to be in drivers/scsi | 12:16 |
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| mjg59 | Do we have an lspci for the systems in question? | 12:16 |
| mjg59 | I suspect we need http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=15e0c694367332d7e7114c7c73044bc5fed9ee48 | 12:19 |
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| zul | ill push a patch tonight | 12:29 |
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| desrt | BenC; poke. | 01:04 |
| BenC | desrt: peek | 01:04 |
| desrt | BenC; -8 fixes my laptop's ability to wake from sleep | 01:04 |
| desrt | but it also breaks its ability to sleep most of the time | 01:04 |
| BenC | anything in dmesg as to why it fails? | 01:05 |
| desrt | gets stuck at the 'Switching to UP code' message from smp alternatives | 01:05 |
| desrt | nothing past that | 01:05 |
| desrt | the system is almost entirely useable at this point, though | 01:05 |
| desrt | like, i can still do stuff.... | 01:05 |
| desrt | it's like it gets stuck at something in the middle of bringing itself down | 01:05 |
| desrt | and the echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep D-states | 01:06 |
| desrt | it works sometimes . doesn't work others. not sure what it is | 01:06 |
| desrt | basically just wondering if you have a guess before i start sticking printk's everywhere | 01:07 |
| desrt | also: do you know a way to figure out what address a process in-kernel is currently executing at? | 01:07 |
| mjg59 | desrt: alt+sysrq+t should still dump kernel threads | 01:08 |
| desrt | i figure since the 'echo' is getting wedged in D-state the kernel must handling the shutdown in context of that process.... so wherever that process is executing in the kernel is probably a good guess | 01:08 |
| desrt | mjg59; no sysrq key here :) | 01:08 |
| desrt | mjg59; and it's not a kernel thread | 01:08 |
| mjg59 | Oh, I see what you mean | 01:09 |
| desrt | kernel executing on behalf of a normal process | 01:09 |
| mjg59 | Erm. I /think/ alt+sysrq+t will still do what you want | 01:09 |
| mjg59 | And I think there's somewhere in /proc where you can set the keycode | 01:09 |
| desrt | is there any way to key that on a system without sysrq? | 01:09 |
| desrt | cool | 01:09 |
| desrt | i'd like to avoid the recompile if possible :) | 01:09 |
| mjg59 | Hm. Maybe not. | 01:10 |
| mjg59 | You might need the recompile. | 01:10 |
| desrt | bah | 01:10 |
| desrt | btw... do you know why capslock has stopped working? | 01:10 |
| mjg59 | Nope | 01:10 |
| mjg59 | Could be the new keymap stuff | 01:10 |
| desrt | without vbestate hitting capslock was the only way to tell the diff between a working-but-invisible system and a crashed one | 01:11 |
| desrt | you know | 01:12 |
| desrt | i wonder if this is another incorrect-lpj symptom..... | 01:12 |
| mjg59 | Could be | 01:12 |
| mjg59 | Worth giving it a go | 01:12 |
| desrt | it's not happening anymore | 01:12 |
| mjg59 | The failure? | 01:13 |
| desrt | heh | 01:13 |
| desrt | take that back | 01:13 |
| desrt | it just happened again | 01:13 |
| desrt | k. the shellscript is in state D+ | 01:13 |
| mjg59 | My suspicion is that it's just stuck in the refrigerator | 01:14 |
| mjg59 | That'll loop several times before it gives up | 01:14 |
| desrt | i wonder if i can mine the data that i need from proc | 01:14 |
| desrt | what is the fridge? | 01:14 |
| desrt | process-freezer? | 01:14 |
| mjg59 | Yeah | 01:14 |
| desrt | i may just be impatient... but i think it gets stuck here for good | 01:15 |
| mjg59 | What does dmesg have? | 01:15 |
| desrt | gets stuck at the 'Switching to UP code' message from smp alternatives | 01:15 |
| desrt | nothing past that | 01:15 |
| desrt | before that i have only: | 01:15 |
| desrt | Freezing cpus... | 01:15 |
| desrt | CPU 1 is now offline | 01:15 |
| desrt | so it certainly makes sense that it's proably trying to freeze processes next | 01:16 |
| desrt | this is interesting | 01:16 |
| desrt | i have two kernel threads called [kstopmachine] | 01:16 |
| desrt | one is sleeping anti-nice | 01:16 |
| desrt | the other is an anti-nice zombie | 01:16 |
| desrt | (the worst kind of zombie you could encounter, really) | 01:17 |
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| desrt | so many damned modules | 01:30 |
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| mjg59 | BenC: Have we lost the PCI express stuff for bcm43xx again? | 01:50 |
| BenC | mjg59: Nope, I checked it today | 01:50 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Hm. | 01:51 |
| mjg59 | We don't have the PCI IDs | 01:51 |
| BenC | that's the CORE_NEW stuff, right? | 01:51 |
| mjg59 | Yeah | 01:51 |
| mjg59 | "Unsupported 80211 core revision 10" | 01:52 |
| mjg59 | So bits of it are gone, at least | 01:53 |
| BenC | - { PCI_VENDOR_ID_BROADCOM, 0x4312, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, 0}, | 01:54 |
| BenC | I think that's the one | 01:54 |
| BenC | Fixed now | 01:55 |
| mjg59 | No, it's not just the IDs | 01:56 |
| BenC | the COMMON_NEW bits are still there, maybe I missed something else | 01:58 |
| BenC | mjg59: I have the PCIE changeset, and am cherry-picking it back into head | 02:05 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Which PCIE changeset? | 02:05 |
| mjg59 | I'm just testing the one that's going upstream | 02:06 |
| mjg59 | Rather than my slightly hacky one | 02:06 |
| BenC | commit 8ffedd7b606cc085fbfb11019f2794c8a94bb5e9 | 02:07 |
| BenC | Author: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org> | 02:07 |
| BenC | Date: Wed Mar 8 09:43:00 2006 +0000 | 02:07 |
| BenC | [PATCH] Broadcom wireless patch, PCIE/Mactel support | 02:07 |
| mjg59 | Yeah | 02:07 |
| mjg59 | Drop that one | 02:07 |
| mjg59 | Hang on a couple of minutes | 02:07 |
| desrt | neat fact: a system that fails to sleep won't shutdown anymore | 02:08 |
| BenC | mjg59: damnit, I already cherry-picked it :) | 02:12 |
| BenC | curse the fast and convenient source control system | 02:12 |
| mjg59 | Heh | 02:13 |
| mjg59 | Revert it, then :) | 02:13 |
| BenC | done, just email me your patch and I'll get it in tonight for the 1am upload :) | 02:16 |
| mjg59 | Hm. | 02:17 |
| mjg59 | So the one I've got doesn't quite seem to work... | 02:17 |
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| zul | 1am upload? | 02:18 |
| zul | ick.. | 02:18 |
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| mjg59 | Hm. No interrupts | 02:28 |
| mjg59 | I'm /sure/ I've fixed this before | 02:29 |
| desrt | i hate my macbook | 02:29 |
| desrt | it's as if inserting the printks fixed the problem | 02:29 |
| mjg59 | Whereas mine works | 02:34 |
| mjg59 | Hm | 02:34 |
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| desrt | your macbook? | 02:35 |
| mjg59 | I don't have a macbook | 02:36 |
| mjg59 | Sorry, my bcm patch | 02:36 |
| desrt | lucky bastard. | 02:36 |
| desrt | whatever | 02:37 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Oh, bugger it | 02:37 |
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| mjg59 | BenC: Ignore me, merge my patch again, it has the advantage of working :) | 02:37 |
| desrt | next time it screws up i'll at least have the debugging there | 02:37 |
| mjg59 | BenC: But can you add 0x4311 as well as 0x4312? | 02:37 |
| BenC | yeah | 02:38 |
| mjg59 | No idea why this doesn't work, but the upstream one just never gets any interrupts | 02:39 |
| mjg59 | Mine's incorrect in places, but does work | 02:39 |
| BenC | mjg59: all done | 02:42 |
| mjg59 | BenC: I didn't see the patch from #53910? | 02:44 |
| BenC | it's in git | 02:45 |
| BenC | should be, I know I grabbed it | 02:46 |
| mjg59 | Can't see it on gitweb | 02:46 |
| BenC | put it in dapper too | 02:46 |
| mjg59 | Ah | 02:46 |
| mjg59 | It's under "update configs" | 02:47 |
| mjg59 | Your commit messages suck :) | 02:47 |
| BenC | oh, that's right | 02:49 |
| BenC | I did a git-update-index on it, forgetting I had a huge update under debian/* | 02:49 |
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| BenC | mjg59: I added a patch to bcm43xx that sets signal stats in iwconfig (and NetManager) | 03:00 |
| BenC | works on my powerbook | 03:00 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Cool | 03:00 |
| johanbr | BenC: Did you hack that up yourself, or did you backport the patch that was just added to upstream bcm43xx? | 03:09 |
| mjg59 | johanbr: That's something I wrote a while ago | 03:10 |
| mjg59 | Oh, you mean the stats stuff? | 03:10 |
| johanbr | mjg59: Yep. | 03:11 |
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| BenC | johanbr: someone emailed it to me from upstream | 03:22 |
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| zul | BenC: how would i revert the smp-alt stuff it seems to be getting in the way | 05:20 |
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| BenC | zul: smp-alt is in stock 2.6.17, so it's not a patch I did (except the amd64 support) | 06:45 |
| fabbione | hey BenC | 06:46 |
| fabbione | no new kernel yet? | 06:46 |
| BenC | working on it | 06:46 |
| fabbione | ok :) | 06:46 |
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| BenC | need to fix a agp build failure | 06:46 |
| fabbione | time to get ready to start my hw maintainance | 06:47 |
| fabbione | i have to move a few hd arounds and put the rest of the machines under UPS | 06:47 |
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| BenC | #61448: [Edgy] Kernel 2.6.18 Released | 07:26 |
| ajmitch | heh | 07:26 |
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| ajmitch | you know you'll get asked to put in 2.6.19 when it's there | 07:26 |
| BenC | 2.6.19 wont be released before edgy, so no worries there :) | 07:27 |
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| BenC | they were even nice enough to put a link to kernel.org, like I wouldn't know where to find the kernel source | 07:27 |
| ajmitch | how thoughtful | 07:27 |
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| === Topic for #ubuntu-kernel: Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | Kernel GIT tree info (updated): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide | 2.6.17-8.21 uploaded, "These are not the ACPI patches you are looking for...wait, maybe they are | Daily kernel builds (for debug and testing purposes only) http://people.ubuntu.com/~bcollins/kernels-daily/ | Kernel Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryKernel | ||
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| zul | someone say my name? it went past the scrollback | 01:37 |
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| tonfa | 06:45 < BenC> zul: smp-alt is in stock 2.6.17, so it's not a patch I did (except the amd64 support) | 01:41 |
| zul | thanks.. | 01:41 |
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| AnAnt | I'm not sure if that is the proper place to discuss it but here it is anyways: if I am on an amd64 using 32-bit Ubuntu, will I be able to run 64-bit applications ? | 02:48 |
| Mithrandir | AnAnt: no, not unless you use a 64 bit kernel, which is an unsupported configuration | 02:49 |
| AnAnt | Mithrandir: what does "unsupported configuration" mean ? | 02:50 |
| AnAnt | Mithrandir: does it mean that it is impossible to do ? or that Ubuntu would do it ? | 02:51 |
| Mithrandir | AnAnt: that if it breaks or you get unexpected problems you might not get your bugs fixed. | 02:51 |
| AnAnt | mithrandir: ok, did you mean that it is not supported by Ubuntu, or that it is not supported by the kernel ? | 02:53 |
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| Mithrandir | unsupported by ubuntu | 02:55 |
| AnAnt | Mithrandir: do you know wether they plan to support it in the future ? | 02:55 |
| AnAnt | edgy+1 or so ? | 02:56 |
| Mithrandir | I'm not sure, but I don't think so | 02:57 |
| AnAnt | btw, this is the proper place for my question, right ? | 02:58 |
| gnomefreak | mjg59: you around? | 02:58 |
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| zul | BenC: ping | 04:35 |
| BenC | zul: pong | 04:36 |
| zul | i saw your note last night about the smp-alt stuff i just checked the stable tree in git for 2.6.17 and there is no reference about it | 04:36 |
| Mithrandir | hi zul | 04:38 |
| zul | hi Mithrandir | 04:38 |
| BenC | zul: That's funny, because after hearing what fabbione said, I checked current 2.6.18, and smp-alt is in there still | 04:38 |
| zul | smp_alternative? | 04:38 |
| BenC | rgrep alternatives_smp_switch arch/i386 | 04:38 |
| zul | ah ok.. | 04:39 |
| zul | then how the hell im going to to do this (rhetorical question) | 04:39 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Ha. So while the PCI-E broadcom stuff /works/, I'm getting 20K/sec | 04:40 |
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| BenC | mjg59: nasty, even I get 500-600k/sec and it seems crappy :) | 04:42 |
| mjg59 | BenC: On a Broadcom? | 04:42 |
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| BenC | mjg59: Yeah, powerbook | 04:48 |
| BenC | it's weird, I get less than half the distance under linux than I do under macosx | 04:49 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Yeah, it seems to be PCI-E specific | 04:49 |
| BenC | the signal strength sucks | 04:49 |
| mjg59 | Oh, the txpower stuff? | 04:49 |
| mjg59 | Yes, that's still not properly implemented | 04:49 |
| BenC | how can I bump the txpower? | 04:49 |
| mjg59 | Help complete the specs? | 04:49 |
| BenC | heh | 04:49 |
| zul | BenC: interesting http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/kernel/?rev=0&sc=1 (based off of 2.6.18) | 04:50 |
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| zul | BenC: got it without the xen smp-alts crack from 2.6.16 | 05:13 |
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| `ph8 | hey BenC | 05:59 |
| `ph8 | thanks for getting back about that bug so promptly | 05:59 |
| BenC | hello | 05:59 |
| BenC | hoping that this last changeset I pulled fixes the problem | 05:59 |
| ivoks | BenC: will that patch get ported to dapper? | 06:09 |
| BenC | ivoks: maybe | 06:09 |
| ivoks | ok | 06:10 |
| `ph8 | will let you know tomorrow hopefully Ben | 06:10 |
| `ph8 | i'm actually out tomorrow night so it might not be until Saturday :/ | 06:10 |
| ivoks | i'll try it tomorrow | 06:11 |
| `ph8 | unless i negotiate a day to work at home *g* - we'll know shortly | 06:11 |
| ivoks | i have same problem :/ | 06:11 |
| zul | heh...i tried.. | 06:12 |
| BenC | mjg59: You know, it sucks, I used to have a broadcom docsafe account, in which I could have gotten the bcm43xx specs, but the account is no longer active | 06:12 |
| ivoks | zul: and? | 06:12 |
| zul | ivoks: meh...didnt work | 06:12 |
| ivoks | ok :) | 06:13 |
| ivoks | well, then i'll prepare 2.6.18 image to solve this problem :) | 06:13 |
| mjg59 | BenC: I've got the driver for the iSight on the Apples sorted | 06:15 |
| `ph8 | BenC: do Windows know about all these things because Asus told them years in advance for fear of angering them? | 06:21 |
| `ph8 | then we linux-ers have to wait until release to sort out compatibility? | 06:21 |
| BenC | ph8: no idea | 06:21 |
| `ph8 | i have a suspicion that's the case. We need to get a couple of lottery winners on board to start a nice investment fund to run Ubuntu off forever more :D | 06:22 |
| ivoks | `ph8: vendors provide their own windows drivers | 06:27 |
| `ph8 | i dont' think it's right that Asus claim this board works with gentoo/bsd/linux on their website then don't provide some clever linux drivers | 06:28 |
| `ph8 | unless they provided it to the kernel when they shipped the product i suppose | 06:28 |
| `ph8 | s/kernel/kernel team | 06:28 |
| `ph8 | muwahaha | 06:35 |
| `ph8 | tomorrow working from home, i'll be around at about 10am gmt to try it out ben :) | 06:35 |
| `ph8 | looking forward to it | 06:35 |
| `ph8 | hopefully this will fix my sata and my ide issues | 06:35 |
| `ph8 | as if I know anything though, they might even by symptoms of the same problem | 06:36 |
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| zul | bleah...i feel like shit | 08:17 |
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| svu_tv | BenC, thanks for fixing G5. Will the fix be in the tomorrow's .ISO images? what was the problem? | 09:24 |
| BenC | svu_tv: Hopefully | 09:26 |
| BenC | was a bug in libata where it thought that irq==0 was a bad thing, when it isn't | 09:26 |
| svu_tv | nice. ok, i will try tomorrow and report | 09:26 |
| BenC | cruft from libpata patch | 09:26 |
| zul | i dont care about ia64 do i? | 09:27 |
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| BenC | svu_tv: I know it works, since I had the same problem on my G5, and now it's booting and running edgy fine | 09:27 |
| BenC | so look forward to it :) | 09:27 |
| svu_tv | sweet, I just cannot believe till I see it myself:) | 09:27 |
| BenC | feh, no faith :P | 09:27 |
| svu_tv | :) | 09:28 |
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| zul_ | right...later | 10:09 |
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| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:BenC] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | Kernel GIT tree info (updated): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide | 2.6.17-9.23 uploaded, Ok, I think I'm getting the hang of this kernel thing. | Daily kernel builds (for debug and testing purposes only) http://people.ubuntu.com/~bcollins/kernels-daily/ | Kernel Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryKernel | ||
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| jbailey | BenC: Still around? I have an amusing one. =) | 11:27 |
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