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johnlittleburgwork nope....replying fast at work05:48
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poningruBurgwork: ping07:14
=== poningru wonders what corey is doing 0114 in the morning working
poningrueither that or he is sshing in07:14
poningruanyway...07:15
poningrudude I need some help07:15
poningruwe did sfd+post sfd events this week07:15
poningrubut the shipit that I did (40 x86 cds) all got installed/picked up about half way through the events07:16
poningruso we are planning on doing this once every month from now on07:16
poningrubut on a smaller scale07:17
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Madpilotponingru, Burgundavia is Corey's main contact07:36
BurgundaviaMadpilot: did poningru just try and ping Burgwork?07:36
MadpilotBurgundavia, he did07:36
Burgundaviaponingru: what do you need?07:36
poningruBurgundavia: I was wondering how to get a 240 cd shipit request approved07:43
Burgundaviawhat do you need it for?07:43
poningrucause we are thinking of doing a minor sfd even like every month07:43
Burgundaviaright07:43
poningruwe gave away like 40 x86 cds and we know atleast 10 people installed07:43
poningrubecause they showed up for our lug07:44
poningrulike that very same day07:44
Burgundaviato me, handing out a cd requires you show more than passing interest07:44
poningruright07:44
BurgundaviaI would make/print some little 1/4 page thingys for the random person07:44
poningrubut it wasnt for random people07:44
Burgundaviaif they talk with you more than 30secs or a minute, give them a cd07:44
poningruit was for people who showed interest07:44
Burgundaviagiven that critera, how many cds do you need?07:44
poningruyeah07:44
poningrusee we plan on doing this atleast once a month07:45
poningruso we are just stocking up07:45
poningrucause we ran out of cds half way through our event07:45
poningruand we dont wanna have to run into that07:46
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poningruthis was wasnt just randomly giving it to people,07:46
Burgundaviaok, I am just a hardass about cds-as-candy, because we truly have to get value for them07:47
FlannelYou don't want to tell them "here, You throw this away"07:48
poningruthis was our criterion: they had heard of linux, they were interested in trying out linux, and if they didnt wanna try it right then and there07:48
poningruwe gave it to them07:48
Burgundaviaok, excellent07:48
Burgundaviaare you an approved loco team?07:48
poningruunfortunately no07:49
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poningruBurgundavia: this is my partner in crime07:49
Burgundaviahey gavinbaker07:49
gavinbakerin the past we did "cds-and-candy" and didn't get much return (as far as we could know)07:49
gavinbakerso we haven't been doing that07:50
gavinbakerin addition to the CDs we've given away, we've done ~8 installs personally in the past week alone07:50
poningruyeah the 8 we did right then and there07:50
Burgundaviavery cool07:50
Burgundaviaare you in the US?07:51
poningruyeah gainesville fl07:51
poningrucollege town07:51
gavinbakerif we do mini-sfd (maybe "Free Software Saturday") regularly, we'll come up with ways to follow up with the CDs (e.g. get contact info for each)07:51
gavinbakerthe goal would be to be in the same place, at the same time, regularly, so people knew where to come for help or info07:51
gavinbakersince many people are intimidated/turned off by irc or forums, and appreciate personal help07:52
poningruyeah this is the every month thing I was talking about07:52
gavinbakeradditionally, we will probably have 1 more "big" event before the next sfd... so we'll want a lot of cds07:52
BurgundaviaI would email shipit, explain who you are and what you are planning todo07:52
poningruand the local lug is very much behind it07:52
Burgundaviaexplain what you just did to me, etc.07:52
gavinbakeras well as to have available at LUG meetings for those interested in ubuntu07:53
poningruBurgundavia: ok... do you know if jono has pull with them?07:53
poningrucause I am meeting him in orlando07:53
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poningru...07:53
Burgundaviayes, jono would be able to help you with that07:54
poningruok cool07:54
gavinbakerok, tnx for the help Burgundavia!07:55
Burgundaviano worries07:55
gavinbakercheers07:55
poningruBurgundavia: also the reason we havent become 'official' loco team07:55
BurgundaviaI would to work with somebody on creating a 1/4 page thingy on Ubuntu07:55
poningruBurgundavia: uh... we have those already dude07:56
Burgundaviawhere are they?07:56
poningruyeah thats the stuff I want bzr to have07:57
poningrufor college07:57
poningruexcept I still dont know how to add stuff to bzr07:58
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nixternalbzr push07:58
nixternalyour best friend07:58
nixternaljust remember branch, pull, push, stat, and diff07:58
Burgundaviayes07:58
Burgundaviajohnlittle: you realize adding that Userful stuff to the UWN puts me in an awful position07:58
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Burgundaviaponingru: I work for Userful, hence the issue08:00
poningruah ic08:00
Madpilotponingru, I've got a 6-per-page leaflet thing I designed ages ago for Ubuntu.ca that you can have the files for, if you need a small leaflet to hand out08:02
Burgundaviasomebody needs to do a whirlwind tour through the various marketing content pages on the wiki and consolidate them. We also need to push them into bzr08:02
poningrubzr is the biggest thing that has to be done imho08:03
poningrucause then we can just link at it from all the marketing wiki stuff08:03
Burgundaviawe need to link the finished stuff on the actual page, but we can use bzrweb todo that08:03
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Burgundaviahey Bassetts08:06
Burgundaviathanks for the beginnings of that Beta page08:06
Bassettshey, np Corey asked me to get it going08:07
Bassettsits not much but I did what i could at the time08:07
BurgundaviaBassetts: check my real name08:07
Bassettsoh08:07
Madpilothehe08:07
Bassettsheh just realised08:07
elkbuntulol08:07
Bassettsits like 7am here, just got up, had like 3 hours sleep =P08:07
Burgundaviaouch08:07
elkbuntuwell that was foolish08:08
BurgundaviaI need to sleep soon, as it is 11 here08:08
Bassettsill see if i can get anymore done today, tomorrow i have college and the weekend im pretty much free08:09
Burgundaviaok, that is funny: http://static.flickr.com/82/245666281_04d6abf163_o.png08:09
Madpilotcaffeine>sleep08:09
elkbuntu++ Madpilot08:09
Burgundaviano08:09
Burgundaviatomorrow should be fun. Guy is getting fired at work first thing08:10
Bassettswho is the leader/contact for spread ubuntu?08:10
MadpilotBurgundavia, does guy-who-is-getting-fired know this?08:10
Burgundaviano, not yet08:10
BurgundaviaBassetts: jenda08:10
Bassettsirc name?08:10
Burgundaviajenda08:11
Bassettsok08:11
Bassettshe on much?08:11
Burgundaviawho is sadly mostly away08:11
Burgundaviaused to be08:11
MadpilotBurgundavia, nice morning surprise for him, then. "Here, have a coffee, bagel, and a pink slip..."08:11
Bassettsdamn08:11
Bassettsi am really interested in that project =(08:11
Burgundaviayes, well he destroyed a very nice day for me08:11
BurgundaviaBassetts: which aspects about it appealed to you?08:11
Burgundaviamost of the spread Ubuntu project is actually already happening08:11
elkbuntuBassetts, there's nothing stopping you from helping revitalise it. jenda should be back soon08:11
Bassettsthe fact it seems to be something i can do08:12
Bassettsit will help the community08:12
Burgundaviaelkbuntu: please, let SU die and lets move to helping the fridge08:12
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elkbuntuyessir08:12
BurgundaviaBassetts: if you want to help actually spread ubuntu, there are many ways todo that08:12
Madpilotelkbuntu, phear the wrath of the Burg08:12
Burgundaviaif you want to help other people spread Ubuntu, you have come to the right placed08:12
Bassettsand i still remember being a clueless noob and think SU could help newbies get help and find out some good places i nthe community08:12
Burgundaviaif you want to talk about people spreading Ubuntu, the fridge is the right place08:13
Bassetts=)08:14
Burgundaviaelkbuntu: now if only my loco team was as rocking as yours was08:14
Bassettsive been trying to find someone to give back to ubuntu in a more than average way08:14
Burgundaviawelcome08:14
elkbuntuBurgundavia, i have the advantage of a few waughs ;)08:14
Burgundaviawhat grabs you? content creation? helping people at the local level? documentation?08:14
Bassettsand seeing as I am into web development (all be it pretty inexperienced)08:14
Burgundaviaelkbuntu: you locoteam has a high waughttage, as they say08:15
elkbuntuBassetts, have you any clue about php?08:15
elkbuntuBurgundavia, yep08:15
Flannelelkbuntu: I do, if you need something08:15
Bassettsim not completely confused if i read php source but i cannot write it08:15
Bassettsits a goal of mine to learn it08:15
Bassettsmy current thing is to master css08:16
Burgundaviayou created pamphlets and the like before?08:16
elkbuntuFlannel, i dont, jenda does and im behind on doing it for him :(08:16
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Flannelelkbuntu: alright, well, if you need a hand08:16
Bassettsnope08:16
elkbuntuFlannel, i'll work something out later08:17
Burgundaviathe best thing I can say to somebody who is starting off is: never assume the only way you can usefully contribute is to code08:17
Flannelelkbuntu: no hurry08:17
Burgundaviain fact, Ubuntu is the one of the best distros for non-programmers like myself08:17
Bassettswell i am pretty much up for helping out wherever i can, if i know i can do it i will, if i think that its a bit hard for me ill give it a go at the risk of learning something but if i get in over my head im not affraid to say so08:17
Bassettsi already know that Burgundavia =)08:18
elkbuntuBurgundavia, heh. i'd have to class myself in that category. web dev != programming ;)08:18
BurgundaviaI don't even do webdev08:18
Bassettsi try08:18
Burgundaviamoin is about the most I will touch these says08:18
Bassettsso what projects are currently being worked on and need help?08:19
Burgundaviacontent creation of all kinds always needs help08:19
Burgundaviaprinted stuff08:19
Burgundaviawe lack a good cohesive set of fast read brochures/pamphlets to be handed out08:19
Bassettsposter, leaflets and the sort?08:20
Burgundaviathere are lots of beginnigns of those08:20
Burgundaviamarketing is about providing a consistent message08:20
MadpilotIMO, content creation is the hard part. Once we have good text & content, we can move it to other media/etc easily...08:20
Burgundaviawe need to create a general theme for a set of content and then create each one08:20
Bassettsso we basically need a identity so as soon as people see a poster/leaflet they know straight away that its to do with ubuntu?08:21
Burgundaviathat is already pretty easy08:21
Burgundaviahmm, why did my work computer die...08:21
Bassettsit needed sleep08:22
Burgundaviawe have a palette (although it needs updating) and some existing work08:22
Bassettswell ill see what i could do, although the nearest thing i have done is write a pretty much standard letter in OOo Writer08:23
Burgundaviathe red, yellow and ornage we use are the best colours of attracting attention08:23
Burgundaviathe tan we use is a nice background colour08:23
MadpilotBassetts, send the text of that to the Marketing mailing list, someone can make it prettier in Scribus, Inkscape or something.08:23
Madpilotthese days I mostly seem to be doing make-it-prettier stuff ;)08:24
BurgundaviaMadpilot: have you seen 0.44 and its PDF generation stuff? it is downright good08:24
BassettsMadpilot, i didnt mean a ubuntu related letter, just a standard letter =P08:24
MadpilotBurgundavia, haven't, but I've been meaning to grab the Ubuntu autopackage08:24
BurgundaviaMadpilot: making it prettier is the last and most important step08:24
Madpilotof 0.44, that is08:24
Burgundaviasteer clear of autopackage08:24
Burgundaviain there lies a giant nightmare of fun08:25
Bassettsall the previous stuff is on DIYMarketing right?08:25
MadpilotBassetts, if you can write clearly, we need you. Even better, if you've got any skill at all at copyediting, we need you badly!08:25
Burgundaviamostly08:25
Bassettscopyediting?08:25
MadpilotBassetts, editing & proofreading stuff other people have written08:25
Burgundaviaone easy task you could do initially would be to trawl the wiki for other marketing content and then put it all on DIYMarketing and then redirect those pages to DIY08:26
Bassettsi passed english in high school... but i cant really write that well with this sort of stuff08:26
Bassettsim better at proofreading08:26
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=== Burgundavia is going to town on the MarketingTeams wiki pages
Bassettsthey now include background music to enlighten our day?08:33
Burgundaviabackground music?08:33
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Bassettswhere can i get the ubuntu font?09:18
Bassettsits ttf-ubuntu-title right?09:19
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BurgundaviaBassetts: yep, but please shy away from using for anything other than the actual logo09:23
Bassettsi was just writing ubuntu in the right text =)09:24
Burgundaviathe logo is already out there09:31
Burgundavianight all10:03
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MitchM__hey menza; got the stickers =)04:47
MitchM__look great.04:47
MenZaMitchM__: sweet :904:47
MitchM__thanks a bunch for the _extras_04:47
MitchM__=)... still need to paypal jenda for the stuff.04:47
MenZayup04:48
MenZaMitchM__: glad you like them :)04:52
MitchM__oh yes; very impressive.04:53
MitchM__i'm worried I may not have any to hand out if I keep sticking them to random things...04:53
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MitchM__(j/k) =)04:53
popeyi have started leaving Ubuntu CDs in the free newspaper which is on the counter in local restaurants05:07
elkbuntuwell.. i finally got conned into putting up a hackergotchi...05:07
MenZapopey: :D05:10
MenZaIf I still had my newspaper route I would've ordered one for each household and delivered it with the paper ;D05:10
elkbuntuMenZa, look here.. the ugliest hackergotchi ever --> https://launchpad.net/people/melissa05:11
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MenZaA... hackergotchi?05:13
elkbuntuyeah.. little mugshots you put on launchpad :)05:13
elkbuntuaaaaaand.. --> * NickServ set your hostname to "ubuntu/member/elkbuntu"05:13
elkbuntu:D05:13
elkbuntui need to figure how to make it show up though05:13
willvdlelkbuntu, are you still involved with user surveys?05:14
elkbuntuwillvdl, yes.. the surveys are still running05:15
willvdlI'm wanting to use the basic idea to create a framework in generating use cases for edubuntu05:15
willvdlis there a public form?05:16
elkbuntuwillvdl, not yet, and probably will not be in the immediate future, there will be eventually though05:18
MenZaelkbuntu: your face scares me.05:20
MenZa:D05:20
elkbuntuwoohoo!05:20
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elkbuntuyou're not as fugly as me, so you might as well :)05:21
MenZaXD05:21
MenZaYou're not uglt :SD05:21
MenZaugly :D*05:21
MenZa(wow that was messed up typing)05:21
willvdlelkbuntu, is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/SurveyQuestionIdeas the basic idea?05:21
willvdlor should I refer to something else?05:22
elkbuntuwillvdl, that was the brainstorming stage for the questions, mainly05:22
elkbuntuwillvdl, im not entirely sure what you are asking for05:22
willvdlbasically for a [final]  survey form. The latest of what is developed :)05:23
elkbuntuwill it's a form that sends into an sql db, and i'd really rather avoid releasing that code until oct 16th at least for security reasons05:24
elkbuntui will however, at the request of someone else, be creating an engine to generate similarly extensive surveys05:24
elkbuntubut this will take time05:25
willvdlokie. just really looking for the list of questions05:25
elkbuntuah.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/UbuntuSurveys05:25
elkbuntuthat what you were after?05:26
willvdlah. thanks.05:26
willvdlNot sure why I didn't find that :|05:26
elkbuntubecause the wiki doesnt have human logic05:26
elkbuntualthough it is at the top of the wiki page you did find ;)05:27
willvdlneither do I apparently. The link was in bold, blue and at the top of the page...05:27
elkbuntulol05:27
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elkbuntuhehe, to err is human05:28
willvdlto err in a nice way is humane05:29
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MenZaelkbuntu: whee05:33
MenZahackergotchi :D05:33
MenZavery emo though xD05:34
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MenZaXD05:35
MenZaI'm not completely done05:35
elkbuntuheh05:35
MenZaPutting finishing touches to it now05:35
MenZaMy hair is rather pointy in this thing.05:35
MenZaAnd it looks silly if I remove it completely05:36
elkbuntuhehe05:36
MenZaelkbuntu: http://menza.org/upload/hackergotchi.png05:37
MenZa'twas the best pic I could find05:37
elkbuntuit's definately a different look to most of the others05:37
MenZaXD05:38
MenZaIt's all I have ;\05:38
MenZa"Ooo, an eclipse"05:38
elkbuntuyeah hehhe05:38
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adamant1988hello all09:26
Bassettshey09:26
adamant1988how's everyone?09:27
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adamant1988and nixternal09:27
nixternalwhat09:29
adamant1988nothing, I <3 you... grumpy09:30
nixternalhaha09:32
adamant1988After Saturday I won't be able to use Linux for a while -_-09:33
nixternalwhy?09:45
nixternalyou cutting your eyes out?09:45
nixternaland your ears off?09:45
nixternalremoving your limbs?09:45
nixternalthats about all that "accessibility" covers, so ;)09:45
mindspingoing to jail for some months?09:48
lophytebwahaha.. hey guys, take a look at this09:49
lophytehttp://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lophyte/lmfao.png09:49
adamant1988nixternal: had to buy a new computer fast, and I just happened to pick the most linux incompatible piece of hardware in the store.09:51
nixternallophyte: please tell me you didn't take that screenshot09:52
lophytehehe, actually I did09:52
lophyteno, I don't run Vista :P09:53
adamant1988funny09:54
lophyteI couldn't stop laughing when I saw it09:55
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MitchM__argh; 'tis funny.10:25
lophytea friend of mine tried to defend it.. that was horrible10:26
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MitchM__lol.10:41
lophyte"that's not funny.. IE7 blocks automatic downloads.. that's a good thing"10:41
Bassettsjohnlittle, you around?10:57
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