[05:48] <johnlittle> burgwork nope....replying fast at work
[07:14] <poningru> Burgwork: ping
[07:14] <poningru> either that or he is sshing in
[07:15] <poningru> anyway...
[07:15] <poningru> dude I need some help
[07:15] <poningru> we did sfd+post sfd events this week
[07:16] <poningru> but the shipit that I did (40 x86 cds) all got installed/picked up about half way through the events
[07:16] <poningru> so we are planning on doing this once every month from now on
[07:17] <poningru> but on a smaller scale
[07:36] <Madpilot> poningru, Burgundavia is Corey's main contact
[07:36] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: did poningru just try and ping Burgwork?
[07:36] <Madpilot> Burgundavia, he did
[07:36] <Burgundavia> poningru: what do you need?
[07:43] <poningru> Burgundavia: I was wondering how to get a 240 cd shipit request approved
[07:43] <Burgundavia> what do you need it for?
[07:43] <poningru> cause we are thinking of doing a minor sfd even like every month
[07:43] <Burgundavia> right
[07:43] <poningru> we gave away like 40 x86 cds and we know atleast 10 people installed
[07:44] <poningru> because they showed up for our lug
[07:44] <poningru> like that very same day
[07:44] <Burgundavia> to me, handing out a cd requires you show more than passing interest
[07:44] <poningru> right
[07:44] <Burgundavia> I would make/print some little 1/4 page thingys for the random person
[07:44] <poningru> but it wasnt for random people
[07:44] <Burgundavia> if they talk with you more than 30secs or a minute, give them a cd
[07:44] <poningru> it was for people who showed interest
[07:44] <Burgundavia> given that critera, how many cds do you need?
[07:44] <poningru> yeah
[07:45] <poningru> see we plan on doing this atleast once a month
[07:45] <poningru> so we are just stocking up
[07:45] <poningru> cause we ran out of cds half way through our event
[07:46] <poningru> and we dont wanna have to run into that
[07:46] <poningru> this was wasnt just randomly giving it to people,
[07:47] <Burgundavia> ok, I am just a hardass about cds-as-candy, because we truly have to get value for them
[07:48] <Flannel> You don't want to tell them "here, You throw this away"
[07:48] <poningru> this was our criterion: they had heard of linux, they were interested in trying out linux, and if they didnt wanna try it right then and there
[07:48] <poningru> we gave it to them
[07:48] <Burgundavia> ok, excellent
[07:48] <Burgundavia> are you an approved loco team?
[07:49] <poningru> unfortunately no
[07:49] <poningru> Burgundavia: this is my partner in crime
[07:49] <Burgundavia> hey gavinbaker
[07:49] <gavinbaker> in the past we did "cds-and-candy" and didn't get much return (as far as we could know)
[07:50] <gavinbaker> so we haven't been doing that
[07:50] <gavinbaker> in addition to the CDs we've given away, we've done ~8 installs personally in the past week alone
[07:50] <poningru> yeah the 8 we did right then and there
[07:50] <Burgundavia> very cool
[07:51] <Burgundavia> are you in the US?
[07:51] <poningru> yeah gainesville fl
[07:51] <poningru> college town
[07:51] <gavinbaker> if we do mini-sfd (maybe "Free Software Saturday") regularly, we'll come up with ways to follow up with the CDs (e.g. get contact info for each)
[07:51] <gavinbaker> the goal would be to be in the same place, at the same time, regularly, so people knew where to come for help or info
[07:52] <gavinbaker> since many people are intimidated/turned off by irc or forums, and appreciate personal help
[07:52] <poningru> yeah this is the every month thing I was talking about
[07:52] <gavinbaker> additionally, we will probably have 1 more "big" event before the next sfd... so we'll want a lot of cds
[07:52] <Burgundavia> I would email shipit, explain who you are and what you are planning todo
[07:52] <poningru> and the local lug is very much behind it
[07:52] <Burgundavia> explain what you just did to me, etc.
[07:53] <gavinbaker> as well as to have available at LUG meetings for those interested in ubuntu
[07:53] <poningru> Burgundavia: ok... do you know if jono has pull with them?
[07:53] <poningru> cause I am meeting him in orlando
[07:53] <poningru> ...
[07:54] <Burgundavia> yes, jono would be able to help you with that
[07:54] <poningru> ok cool
[07:55] <gavinbaker> ok, tnx for the help Burgundavia!
[07:55] <Burgundavia> no worries
[07:55] <gavinbaker> cheers
[07:55] <poningru> Burgundavia: also the reason we havent become 'official' loco team
[07:55] <Burgundavia> I would to work with somebody on creating a 1/4 page thingy on Ubuntu
[07:56] <poningru> Burgundavia: uh... we have those already dude
[07:56] <Burgundavia> where are they?
[07:57] <poningru> yeah thats the stuff I want bzr to have
[07:57] <poningru> for college
[07:58] <poningru> except I still dont know how to add stuff to bzr
[07:58] <nixternal> bzr push
[07:58] <nixternal> your best friend
[07:58] <nixternal> just remember branch, pull, push, stat, and diff
[07:58] <Burgundavia> yes
[07:58] <Burgundavia> johnlittle: you realize adding that Userful stuff to the UWN puts me in an awful position
[08:00] <Burgundavia> poningru: I work for Userful, hence the issue
[08:00] <poningru> ah ic
[08:02] <Madpilot> poningru, I've got a 6-per-page leaflet thing I designed ages ago for Ubuntu.ca that you can have the files for, if you need a small leaflet to hand out
[08:02] <Burgundavia> somebody needs to do a whirlwind tour through the various marketing content pages on the wiki and consolidate them. We also need to push them into bzr
[08:03] <poningru> bzr is the biggest thing that has to be done imho
[08:03] <poningru> cause then we can just link at it from all the marketing wiki stuff
[08:03] <Burgundavia> we need to link the finished stuff on the actual page, but we can use bzrweb todo that
[08:06] <Burgundavia> hey Bassetts
[08:06] <Burgundavia> thanks for the beginnings of that Beta page
[08:07] <Bassetts> hey, np Corey asked me to get it going
[08:07] <Bassetts> its not much but I did what i could at the time
[08:07] <Burgundavia> Bassetts: check my real name
[08:07] <Bassetts> oh
[08:07] <Madpilot> hehe
[08:07] <Bassetts> heh just realised
[08:07] <elkbuntu> lol
[08:07] <Bassetts> its like 7am here, just got up, had like 3 hours sleep =P
[08:07] <Burgundavia> ouch
[08:08] <elkbuntu> well that was foolish
[08:08] <Burgundavia> I need to sleep soon, as it is 11 here
[08:09] <Bassetts> ill see if i can get anymore done today, tomorrow i have college and the weekend im pretty much free
[08:09] <Burgundavia> ok, that is funny: http://static.flickr.com/82/245666281_04d6abf163_o.png
[08:09] <Madpilot> caffeine>sleep
[08:09] <elkbuntu> ++ Madpilot
[08:09] <Burgundavia> no
[08:10] <Burgundavia> tomorrow should be fun. Guy is getting fired at work first thing
[08:10] <Bassetts> who is the leader/contact for spread ubuntu?
[08:10] <Madpilot> Burgundavia, does guy-who-is-getting-fired know this?
[08:10] <Burgundavia> no, not yet
[08:10] <Burgundavia> Bassetts: jenda
[08:10] <Bassetts> irc name?
[08:11] <Burgundavia> jenda
[08:11] <Bassetts> ok
[08:11] <Bassetts> he on much?
[08:11] <Burgundavia> who is sadly mostly away
[08:11] <Burgundavia> used to be
[08:11] <Madpilot> Burgundavia, nice morning surprise for him, then. "Here, have a coffee, bagel, and a pink slip..."
[08:11] <Bassetts> damn
[08:11] <Bassetts> i am really interested in that project =(
[08:11] <Burgundavia> yes, well he destroyed a very nice day for me
[08:11] <Burgundavia> Bassetts: which aspects about it appealed to you?
[08:11] <Burgundavia> most of the spread Ubuntu project is actually already happening
[08:11] <elkbuntu> Bassetts, there's nothing stopping you from helping revitalise it. jenda should be back soon
[08:12] <Bassetts> the fact it seems to be something i can do
[08:12] <Bassetts> it will help the community
[08:12] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: please, let SU die and lets move to helping the fridge
[08:12] <elkbuntu> yessir
[08:12] <Burgundavia> Bassetts: if you want to help actually spread ubuntu, there are many ways todo that
[08:12] <Madpilot> elkbuntu, phear the wrath of the Burg
[08:12] <Burgundavia> if you want to help other people spread Ubuntu, you have come to the right placed
[08:12] <Bassetts> and i still remember being a clueless noob and think SU could help newbies get help and find out some good places i nthe community
[08:13] <Burgundavia> if you want to talk about people spreading Ubuntu, the fridge is the right place
[08:14] <Bassetts> =)
[08:14] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: now if only my loco team was as rocking as yours was
[08:14] <Bassetts> ive been trying to find someone to give back to ubuntu in a more than average way
[08:14] <Burgundavia> welcome
[08:14] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, i have the advantage of a few waughs ;)
[08:14] <Burgundavia> what grabs you? content creation? helping people at the local level? documentation?
[08:14] <Bassetts> and seeing as I am into web development (all be it pretty inexperienced)
[08:15] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: you locoteam has a high waughttage, as they say
[08:15] <elkbuntu> Bassetts, have you any clue about php?
[08:15] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, yep
[08:15] <Flannel> elkbuntu: I do, if you need something
[08:15] <Bassetts> im not completely confused if i read php source but i cannot write it
[08:15] <Bassetts> its a goal of mine to learn it
[08:16] <Bassetts> my current thing is to master css
[08:16] <Burgundavia> you created pamphlets and the like before?
[08:16] <elkbuntu> Flannel, i dont, jenda does and im behind on doing it for him :(
[08:16] <Flannel> elkbuntu: alright, well, if you need a hand
[08:16] <Bassetts> nope
[08:17] <elkbuntu> Flannel, i'll work something out later
[08:17] <Burgundavia> the best thing I can say to somebody who is starting off is: never assume the only way you can usefully contribute is to code
[08:17] <Flannel> elkbuntu: no hurry
[08:17] <Burgundavia> in fact, Ubuntu is the one of the best distros for non-programmers like myself
[08:17] <Bassetts> well i am pretty much up for helping out wherever i can, if i know i can do it i will, if i think that its a bit hard for me ill give it a go at the risk of learning something but if i get in over my head im not affraid to say so
[08:18] <Bassetts> i already know that Burgundavia =)
[08:18] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, heh. i'd have to class myself in that category. web dev != programming ;)
[08:18] <Burgundavia> I don't even do webdev
[08:18] <Bassetts> i try
[08:18] <Burgundavia> moin is about the most I will touch these says
[08:19] <Bassetts> so what projects are currently being worked on and need help?
[08:19] <Burgundavia> content creation of all kinds always needs help
[08:19] <Burgundavia> printed stuff
[08:19] <Burgundavia> we lack a good cohesive set of fast read brochures/pamphlets to be handed out
[08:20] <Bassetts> poster, leaflets and the sort?
[08:20] <Burgundavia> there are lots of beginnigns of those
[08:20] <Burgundavia> marketing is about providing a consistent message
[08:20] <Madpilot> IMO, content creation is the hard part. Once we have good text & content, we can move it to other media/etc easily...
[08:20] <Burgundavia> we need to create a general theme for a set of content and then create each one
[08:21] <Bassetts> so we basically need a identity so as soon as people see a poster/leaflet they know straight away that its to do with ubuntu?
[08:21] <Burgundavia> that is already pretty easy
[08:21] <Burgundavia> hmm, why did my work computer die...
[08:22] <Bassetts> it needed sleep
[08:22] <Burgundavia> we have a palette (although it needs updating) and some existing work
[08:23] <Bassetts> well ill see what i could do, although the nearest thing i have done is write a pretty much standard letter in OOo Writer
[08:23] <Burgundavia> the red, yellow and ornage we use are the best colours of attracting attention
[08:23] <Burgundavia> the tan we use is a nice background colour
[08:23] <Madpilot> Bassetts, send the text of that to the Marketing mailing list, someone can make it prettier in Scribus, Inkscape or something.
[08:24] <Madpilot> these days I mostly seem to be doing make-it-prettier stuff ;)
[08:24] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: have you seen 0.44 and its PDF generation stuff? it is downright good
[08:24] <Bassetts> Madpilot, i didnt mean a ubuntu related letter, just a standard letter =P
[08:24] <Madpilot> Burgundavia, haven't, but I've been meaning to grab the Ubuntu autopackage
[08:24] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: making it prettier is the last and most important step
[08:24] <Madpilot> of 0.44, that is
[08:24] <Burgundavia> steer clear of autopackage
[08:25] <Burgundavia> in there lies a giant nightmare of fun
[08:25] <Bassetts> all the previous stuff is on DIYMarketing right?
[08:25] <Madpilot> Bassetts, if you can write clearly, we need you. Even better, if you've got any skill at all at copyediting, we need you badly!
[08:25] <Burgundavia> mostly
[08:25] <Bassetts> copyediting?
[08:25] <Madpilot> Bassetts, editing & proofreading stuff other people have written
[08:26] <Burgundavia> one easy task you could do initially would be to trawl the wiki for other marketing content and then put it all on DIYMarketing and then redirect those pages to DIY
[08:26] <Bassetts> i passed english in high school... but i cant really write that well with this sort of stuff
[08:26] <Bassetts> im better at proofreading
[08:33] <Bassetts> they now include background music to enlighten our day?
[08:33] <Burgundavia> background music?
[09:18] <Bassetts> where can i get the ubuntu font?
[09:19] <Bassetts> its ttf-ubuntu-title right?
[09:23] <Burgundavia> Bassetts: yep, but please shy away from using for anything other than the actual logo
[09:24] <Bassetts> i was just writing ubuntu in the right text =)
[09:31] <Burgundavia> the logo is already out there
[10:03] <Burgundavia> night all
[04:47] <MitchM__> hey menza; got the stickers =)
[04:47] <MitchM__> look great.
[04:47] <MenZa> MitchM__: sweet :9
[04:47] <MitchM__> thanks a bunch for the _extras_
[04:47] <MitchM__> =)... still need to paypal jenda for the stuff.
[04:48] <MenZa> yup
[04:52] <MenZa> MitchM__: glad you like them :)
[04:53] <MitchM__> oh yes; very impressive.
[04:53] <MitchM__> i'm worried I may not have any to hand out if I keep sticking them to random things...
[04:53] <MitchM__> (j/k) =)
[05:07] <popey> i have started leaving Ubuntu CDs in the free newspaper which is on the counter in local restaurants
[05:07] <elkbuntu> well.. i finally got conned into putting up a hackergotchi...
[05:10] <MenZa> popey: :D
[05:10] <MenZa> If I still had my newspaper route I would've ordered one for each household and delivered it with the paper ;D
[05:11] <elkbuntu> MenZa, look here.. the ugliest hackergotchi ever --> https://launchpad.net/people/melissa
[05:13] <MenZa> A... hackergotchi?
[05:13] <elkbuntu> yeah.. little mugshots you put on launchpad :)
[05:13] <elkbuntu> aaaaaand.. --> * NickServ set your hostname to "ubuntu/member/elkbuntu"
[05:13] <elkbuntu> :D
[05:13] <elkbuntu> i need to figure how to make it show up though
[05:14] <willvdl> elkbuntu, are you still involved with user surveys?
[05:15] <elkbuntu> willvdl, yes.. the surveys are still running
[05:15] <willvdl> I'm wanting to use the basic idea to create a framework in generating use cases for edubuntu
[05:16] <willvdl> is there a public form?
[05:18] <elkbuntu> willvdl, not yet, and probably will not be in the immediate future, there will be eventually though
[05:20] <MenZa> elkbuntu: your face scares me.
[05:20] <MenZa> :D
[05:20] <elkbuntu> woohoo!
[05:21] <elkbuntu> you're not as fugly as me, so you might as well :)
[05:21] <MenZa> XD
[05:21] <MenZa> You're not uglt :SD
[05:21] <MenZa> ugly :D*
[05:21] <MenZa> (wow that was messed up typing)
[05:21] <willvdl> elkbuntu, is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/SurveyQuestionIdeas the basic idea?
[05:22] <willvdl> or should I refer to something else?
[05:22] <elkbuntu> willvdl, that was the brainstorming stage for the questions, mainly
[05:22] <elkbuntu> willvdl, im not entirely sure what you are asking for
[05:23] <willvdl> basically for a [final]  survey form. The latest of what is developed :)
[05:24] <elkbuntu> will it's a form that sends into an sql db, and i'd really rather avoid releasing that code until oct 16th at least for security reasons
[05:24] <elkbuntu> i will however, at the request of someone else, be creating an engine to generate similarly extensive surveys
[05:25] <elkbuntu> but this will take time
[05:25] <willvdl> okie. just really looking for the list of questions
[05:25] <elkbuntu> ah.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/UbuntuSurveys
[05:26] <elkbuntu> that what you were after?
[05:26] <willvdl> ah. thanks.
[05:26] <willvdl> Not sure why I didn't find that :|
[05:26] <elkbuntu> because the wiki doesnt have human logic
[05:27] <elkbuntu> although it is at the top of the wiki page you did find ;)
[05:27] <willvdl> neither do I apparently. The link was in bold, blue and at the top of the page...
[05:27] <elkbuntu> lol
[05:28] <elkbuntu> hehe, to err is human
[05:29] <willvdl> to err in a nice way is humane
[05:33] <MenZa> elkbuntu: whee
[05:33] <MenZa> hackergotchi :D
[05:34] <MenZa> very emo though xD
[05:35] <MenZa> XD
[05:35] <MenZa> I'm not completely done
[05:35] <elkbuntu> heh
[05:35] <MenZa> Putting finishing touches to it now
[05:35] <MenZa> My hair is rather pointy in this thing.
[05:36] <MenZa> And it looks silly if I remove it completely
[05:36] <elkbuntu> hehe
[05:37] <MenZa> elkbuntu: http://menza.org/upload/hackergotchi.png
[05:37] <MenZa> 'twas the best pic I could find
[05:37] <elkbuntu> it's definately a different look to most of the others
[05:38] <MenZa> XD
[05:38] <MenZa> It's all I have ;\
[05:38] <MenZa> "Ooo, an eclipse"
[05:38] <elkbuntu> yeah hehhe
[09:26] <adamant1988> hello all
[09:26] <Bassetts> hey
[09:27] <adamant1988> how's everyone?
[09:27] <adamant1988> and nixternal
[09:29] <nixternal> what
[09:30] <adamant1988> nothing, I <3 you... grumpy
[09:32] <nixternal> haha
[09:33] <adamant1988> After Saturday I won't be able to use Linux for a while -_-
[09:45] <nixternal> why?
[09:45] <nixternal> you cutting your eyes out?
[09:45] <nixternal> and your ears off?
[09:45] <nixternal> removing your limbs?
[09:45] <nixternal> thats about all that "accessibility" covers, so ;)
[09:48] <mindspin> going to jail for some months?
[09:49] <lophyte> bwahaha.. hey guys, take a look at this
[09:49] <lophyte> http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lophyte/lmfao.png
[09:51] <adamant1988> nixternal: had to buy a new computer fast, and I just happened to pick the most linux incompatible piece of hardware in the store.
[09:52] <nixternal> lophyte: please tell me you didn't take that screenshot
[09:52] <lophyte> hehe, actually I did
[09:53] <lophyte> no, I don't run Vista :P
[09:54] <adamant1988> funny
[09:55] <lophyte> I couldn't stop laughing when I saw it
[10:25] <MitchM__> argh; 'tis funny.
[10:26] <lophyte> a friend of mine tried to defend it.. that was horrible
[10:41] <MitchM__> lol.
[10:41] <lophyte> "that's not funny.. IE7 blocks automatic downloads.. that's a good thing"
[10:57] <Bassetts> johnlittle, you around?