[12:01] <Jack_Sparrow> jake1: You can try rebuilding your entire source list with easysource..
[12:01] <cjones> ok thanks sxo much for the help
[12:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource
[12:01] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:02] <mephis1987> quit
[12:02] <C-O-L-T> Jack_Sparrow: I have made changes to my pmount.allow let's see
[12:02] <Jack_Sparrow> C-O-L-T: Good luck
[12:03] <ludedeeds> has anyone ever messed around with rpath?
[12:03] <Jack_Sparrow> lupine_85: Would running the livecd with a persistent folder on the cf been an option for cjones?
[12:04] <Z_God2> I just did apt-get upgrade on my edgy system, now it doesn't boot anymore
[12:04] <Z_God2> any known problems?
[12:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !edgy
[12:04] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[12:04] <tech09> !schedule
[12:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[12:04] <Shadowpillar> Btw
[12:04] <Shadowpillar> to everyone who uses dapper
[12:05] <Shadowpillar> and as a Jmicron ASIC
[12:05] <Shadowpillar> I can say it works
[12:05] <lupine_85> JAck_Sparrow: no idea.
[12:05] <ludedeeds> Jack_Sparrow: have you had time to see about the connection timeout in ndiswrapper? i am not seeing it in the ubuntu wiki
[12:05] <tuxtux> notte a tutti
[12:05] <Shadowpillar> and has*
[12:06] <grampajoe> Should I be able to connect to a network or the internet while running Ubuntu from a live CD?
[12:06] <boink> grampajoe: yes
[12:06] <boink> it should work fine .. but murphy's law can apply
[12:07] <wo_Ot> lol
[12:07] <C-O-L-T> Jack_Sparrow: thanks thanks for help it works
[12:07] <grampajoe> Yeah I'm not able to connect to my network, even though it says the interfaces are acitve
[12:07] <wo_Ot> where can i find ubuntu's live cd?
[12:08] <erUSUL> wo_Ot: download.ubuntu.com ?
[12:08] <boink> can you ping to the outside?
[12:08] <rmd> wo_Ot: it's called the desktop cd on the main page
[12:08] <grampajoe> boink: Nope
[12:08] <galago> my laptop is not recursing the search setting in /etc/resolv.conf
[12:08] <galago> when set to foo.bar.example.com
[12:08] <galago> it should (but doesn't) find host qux.bar.example.com
[12:08] <boink> what does dmesg|less say? (don't paste that here, please)
[12:08] <runa> hey :) I've a utf8 file and I want to convert it to iso8859-1. Any hints?
[12:09] <boink> and of course, what's the box connected to? a router?
[12:09] <erUSUL> runa: man iconv
[12:09] <boink> ifconfig is another good tool to see what happening with the network interfaces
[12:09] <olorin> runa, iconv -t utf-8 inputfile
[12:09] <grampajoe> It should be connected wirelessly to a router, but apparently the connection isn't there
[12:09] <boink> wirelessly?
[12:10] <boink> that makes things more difficult :/
[12:10] <grampajoe> Yeah, I'm sure it does
[12:10] <boink> what does ifconfig say?
[12:10] <Jack_Sparrow> ludedeeds:   Can we check something...?
[12:10] <killown> how I configure X composite plugin?
[12:10] <Jack_Sparrow> ludedeeds: What i did to fix my problem was to assign the Default Gateway ip of my router and after restart, everything worked fine. was what I found...
[12:11] <runa> olorin: tnx
[12:11] <grampajoe> eth1 (the wireless interface) isn't listed
[12:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Colt glad it worked for you..
[12:11] <runa> olorin: tnx
[12:11] <boink> dunno if the livecd sees the wireless device :/
[12:11] <CromagDK> at the moment i am using 2x21" CRT screens in Twinview (Nvidia). Im looking for an easy way to switch between using on screen only and the twinview with 2 screens. any ideas or Hints? :)
[12:11] <illsci> hey is there a seperate glx channel?
[12:11] <boink> if you do a dmesg|less you'll see what happened on the boot-up
[12:11] <grampajoe> That's kind of what I thought, I had the same problem on another computer
[12:11] <boink> which card is it?
[12:11] <ludedeeds> Jack_Sparrow: was your connection timing out after about an hour of inactivity?
[12:11] <printk> illsci: #ubuntu-xgl
[12:12] <kalif> boink: only if bootup wasn't to long ago
[12:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Minutes, not an hour
[12:12] <ludedeeds> Jack_Sparrow: at first, i thought it had something to do with power management, but i disabled all of that completely and still had the problem
[12:12] <grampajoe> It's built-in, it's an emachine
[12:12] <boink> I think the agony factor would be less if you used the ethernet card
[12:13] <Jack_Sparrow> ludedeeds: That was all I could find.....  I may be completely wrong...
[12:13] <linuchsan> boink:so...lspci
[12:13] <boink> true, ta
[12:13] <idm> whenever I use FF to open https sites, I get "Check to make sure your system has the Personal Security Manager installed".. How to fix?
[12:13] <blackelf> I fucked up the panel.  how to reset the panel settings on my desktop?
[12:13] <briguyd> blackelf, please watch the language
[12:13] <boink> !swearing
[12:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swearing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <boink> heh
[12:14] <Jack_Sparrow> ludedeeds: Do you have a router between your modem and your pc?
[12:14] <ludedeeds> Jack_Sparrow: wlan0 is already set as the default gateway device.. is that what you're talking about? if not, where would i change the actual default gateway?
[12:14] <ludedeeds> Jack_Sparrow: yes, i do
[12:14] <CromagDK> !language
[12:14] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:14] <grampajoe> boink: Yeah, I was thinking of just running a cable, I'll just go do that quick
[12:14] <CromagDK> ah :)
[12:14] <boink> good luck with it
[12:14] <Jack_Sparrow> ludedeeds: Can you test without the router and go straight to the modem?
[12:15] <ludedeeds> Jack_Sparrow: not wirelessly, no
[12:15] <ludedeeds> Jack_Sparrow: this is all through a wireless adapter at the moment
[12:15] <ludedeeds> using ndiswrapper
[12:16] <eternalswd> I just compiled xchat 2.6.6 on dapper and I'm getting an error on xchat-remote:  xchat_command called without a valid context.    Can anyone help, the xchat channel isn't very active at the moment?
[12:16] <ludedeeds> i have complete faith that it would work perfectly using cat5, but right now it isn't an option
[12:16] <killown> how I install codecs for totem video player?
[12:16] <ludedeeds> though, it does make me wonder if using cat5 would also line out the freeze ups running 686 kernel as well
[12:17] <killown> anyone can help -me?
[12:17] <eternalswd> killown, depends on if you're using totem-gstreamer or totem-xine
[12:17] <killown> eternalswd ok
[12:17] <killown> eternalswd, totem-gstreamer
[12:17] <Duch8> hi,just installed a dymo label printer but can't get the linux drivers,can anyone help?
[12:17] <killown> eternalswd how I do ?
[12:18] <eternalswd> killown, have you activated universe and multiverse in your sources.list file
[12:18] <JFreakCapo> when try to burn a cd i receive a message of acces denied to device, how can i set access to my user
[12:18] <JFreakCapo> ?
[12:18] <killown> eternalswd, ok
[12:18] <grimx> is it better to use c or c++ when programming for linux
[12:18] <bXi> does one of you know how E: Couldn't configure pre-depend belocs-locales-bin for locales, probably a dependency cycle. is fixable?
[12:18] <killown> eternalswd yes already actived
[12:18] <Shadowpillar> What's SATA2 driving?
[12:19] <Jack_Sparrow> ludedeeds: Look at page 7 and see if you can see your default gateway there...  http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[12:19] <killown> I have totem-gstreamer installed
[12:19] <JFreakCapo> does anybody help me, how set acces to my cd-burner please
[12:19] <steveire> I'm having trouble with flashplugin-nonfree since updating it. Can I un-update it?
[12:19] <killown> eternalswd, how I do now?
[12:20] <Jack_Sparrow> ludedeeds: I think it would clear up the 686 as well yes..
[12:20] <Jack_Sparrow> JFreakCapo: What are you using to burn the cd's
[12:20] <killown> totem don't has option to add codecs
[12:20] <jesisd> hello
[12:20] <Jack_Sparrow> JFreakCapo: K3B ?
[12:20] <ludedeeds> alright, brb
[12:20] <killown> anyone help me?
[12:20] <jesisd> can someone please tell me how can i restore grub?
[12:21] <kober> jesisd: What do you mean restore?  Like you installed windows and it wiped it?
[12:21] <JFreakCapo> Jack_Sparrow: Hi Jack !!! nice to see you again, i'm ussing gnomebaker or k3b
[12:21] <eternalswd> killown, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-gl gstreamer0.10-plugins-base gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gstreamer0.10-pitfdll w32codecs
[12:21] <kober> jesisd: Or just a bad config?
[12:21] <Jack_Sparrow> jesisd: What were you doing when you lost it.. installing windows?
[12:21] <CromagDK> at the moment i am using 2x21" CRT screens in Twinview (Nvidia). Im looking for an easy way to switch between using on screen only and the twinview with 2 screens. any ideas or Hints? :)  *sorry for repost. last time*
[12:21] <Jack_Sparrow> JFreakCapo: Hi..
[12:21] <killown> eternalswd thanks
[12:21] <jesisd> kober exactly
[12:21] <emi> !ati
[12:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:22] <mad_man> when i minimize a program it completely disapears. they wood minimize to the panel before. how can i have programs to minimize back to the panel ?
[12:22] <Jack_Sparrow> JFreakCapo: k3b has a menu option to set permissions
[12:22] <jesisd> installed win and it doesn work anymore
[12:22] <gunnar_> !noscreenfound
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about noscreenfound - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <gunnar_> !noscreen
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about noscreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <nbx909> flash 7 update broked flash
[12:22] <nbx909> lol
[12:22] <ludedeeds> Jack_Sparrow: instead of rebooting for all that to take affect, can i just ifdown and up my wlan0?
[12:22] <nbx909> anyone have a fix?
[12:23] <nbx909> or the previous package?
[12:23] <JFreakCapo> Jack_Sparrow: i gonna try it thks, do you know how do it in GnomeBaker ?
[12:23] <lupine_85> ludedeeds: indeed
[12:23] <linuchsan> jesisd:man grub
[12:23] <Jack_Sparrow> JFreakCapo: No idea.. never used it
[12:23] <emi> er-backports/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  MD5Sum mismatch i got this when apt-get update what should I do ?
[12:23] <JFreakCapo> Jack_Sparrow: alway thks a lot
[12:23] <jesisd> Jack_Sparrow: yes, i am ashamed for that, but i am writing code and I need to see it in internet exploter
[12:23] <nbx909> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1524033
[12:23] <Jack_Sparrow> ludedeeds: Your guess is as good as mine.. I'm flying blind trying to help you on this..
[12:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[12:24] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:24] <knixtech> how do i make a folder writeable?
[12:24] <nbx909|linux> anyway does anybody have a fix to flash not updateing correctly?
[12:24] <mad_man> when i minimize a program it completely disapears. they wood minimize to the panel before. how can i have programs to minimize back to the panel ?
[12:24] <Jack_Sparrow> jesisd: WIndows really wants to be the first os on the first partition.  If not I would wipe everything, install windows first then reinstall ubuntu
[12:25] <killown> I cannot execute video xvid in totem
[12:25] <jesisd> Jack_Sparrow dont like that idea man...
[12:25] <killown> anyone can help -me?
[12:25] <Jack_Sparrow> jesisd: What partition did you install windows on?
[12:25] <CromagDK> !codecs > killown
[12:26] <jesisd> Jack_Sparrow hda1
[12:26] <Jack_Sparrow> jesisd: DOnt blame Ubuntu/linux, it dosent care.. but XP sure does..
[12:26] <Jack_Sparrow> jesisd: You should be fine
[12:26] <emi> http://pastebin.ca/168826 anybody can help me ?
[12:26] <Jack_Sparrow> jesisd: Follow the advice on the wiki I linked..
[12:26] <jesisd>  Jack_Sparrow i dont blame any one...fuking windows didnt let me open internet exploter...
[12:26] <knixtech> how do i make a folder writeable by the webserver?
[12:27] <Jack_Sparrow> jesisd: I understand your frustration, but please keep the channel family friendly..
[12:27] <mad_man> !panel
[12:27] <linuchsan> Jack_Sparrow:no, windows can go everywhere you like
[12:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about panel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:27] <Shadowpillar> What's SATA2 driving?
[12:27] <harisund> knixtech: what do you mean writeable by webserver?
[12:27] <jesisd>  Jack_Sparrow sorry
[12:28] <Jack_Sparrow> linuchsan: You CAN put windows anywhere, it prefers hda1
[12:28] <knixtech> harisund, the folder needs to be writeable,  so how do i chown it?
[12:28] <harisund> knixtech: do you mind if the folder is writable by every user on teh system?
[12:28] <linuchsan> Jack_Sparrow:or usb!
[12:28] <knixtech> i sort of do
[12:28] <Jack_Sparrow> emi: Please post your sources.list to the pastebin.. not in the channel
[12:28] <knixtech> chown 777?
[12:28] <ludedeeds> Jack_Sparrow: alright, i put the default gateway in the interfaces config... guess i just get to wait and see
[12:28] <fdsd> hey guys, does knot 3 use usplash still?
[12:28] <harisund> knixtech: chown -R a+w folder_name
[12:28] <knixtech> ty
[12:29] <Jack_Sparrow> ludedeeds: Fingers crossed...
[12:29] <emi> Jack_Sparrow, did you looked on pastebin.ca?
[12:29] <emi> Jack_Sparrow, http://pastebin.ca/168826
[12:29] <killown> I cannot to install plugins in totem
[12:29] <Jack_Sparrow> emi: yes.. which is why I asked for your sources list
[12:29] <killown> I want play video xvid
[12:29] <harisund> knixtech: you will need -R to allow recursive changes to the directory structure. However, this would mean all users can write. if that is not what you want, you have other options ...
[12:29] <knixtech> ty
[12:29] <Jack_Sparrow> emi: Sorry didnt scroll down enough
[12:29] <fdsd> anyone know?
[12:29] <stefg> !restricted
[12:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:29] <JFreakCapo> Jack_Sparrow: Jack, sorry i can't find the menu to set permission what is it name?
[12:29] <jesisd> can some one help me with this grub? please?
[12:30] <jesisd> I thought it was easier to make it workl
[12:30] <diesel> I just downloaded squirrelmail and the application works in Lynx, but in Firefox, I am asked if I want to download the index.php file.  Anyone know why this is?
[12:30] <harisund> jesisd: state your problem. Perhaps somebody might know ..
[12:30] <steveire> can I un-update a package? Is it possible? A rollback?
[12:30] <diesel> not in firefox
[12:31] <ludedeeds> Jack_Sparrow: so.. do you have any idea why everything works just fine using the 386 kernel, but system freezes when downloading using the 686 kernel? is my only other issue at the moment =\
[12:31] <ladydoor> JFreakCapo: you don't use a menu to change file permissions, you use chmod
[12:31] <sproingie> wtf.  why doesn't the -P option work on ubuntu's grep?
[12:31] <emi> Jack_Sparrow, http://pastebin.ca/178024
[12:31] <martin_> Does someone know why realplayer depends on xlibs (not provided in dapper) and how to resolve that?
[12:31] <JFreakCapo> Jack_Sparrow: i have set permission with chmod to what? to k3b ? i can run it
[12:32] <bl4cktone> I can't seem to get amaroK working, it won't even load or splash screen can anyone help?
[12:32] <Daynah> :\ my harddrive is completely too pooped to poop, component failure and I got to mail it back. Can I take it out of my computer and THEN tell ubuntu not to try to mount it?
[12:32] <bl4cktone> It was working eariler today but it froze grey while in compiz
[12:33] <MrParanoia> does the Doly Trojan pose a threat to linux machines?
[12:33] <dzenita> martin_, there's a dummy package, hold on a sec, i'll give you the link
[12:33] <kalif> Daynah: find the line with your disk in /etc/fstab and give it a #
[12:33] <Jack_Sparrow> ludedeeds: I would just wait and see if the last change fixed anything then move to the 686..
[12:34] <lupine_85> MrParanoia: is it PE or ELF?
[12:34] <lupine_85> Or is it some weird office scripting thing?
[12:34] <linuchsan> diesel:have you tried other sites?
[12:34] <Jack_Sparrow> JFreakCapo: K3B has a menu option to set permissions, you shouldnt need to go to terminal.
[12:34] <Daynah> Kalif: thanks! I would have just backspaced like an idiot. but can I do that AFTER I take the drive out of my computer, or will ubuntu freak out. You know, more than it already is
[12:34] <dzenita> martin_, here's the dummy package http://www.chorse.org/junkroom/xlibs-dummy/xlibs_6.8.2-77_all.deb
[12:35] <ladydoor> Jack_Sparrow: isn't it more difficult to give directions that way though?
[12:35] <MrParanoia> lupine_85> don't know
[12:35] <MrParanoia> http://www.sans.org/resources/idfaq/oddports.php
[12:36] <Jack_Sparrow> ladydoor: I had no problem with k3b, I just clicked told it I wanted permission and everything was fine after that
[12:36] <martin_> thanks, I'll try that :) should be posted somewhere :)
[12:36] <MrParanoia> look for port 1012
[12:36] <lupine_85> mr_hus:
[12:36] <White_Hamster> i have a question
[12:36] <lupine_85> erm, sorry
[12:36] <ladydoor> Jack_Sparrow: ah. i just find it difficult to be like "go to this menu...no that one...click here. then here, etc."
[12:36] <ludedeeds> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, might be a good idea, huh..
[12:36] <znull> what kernel runs ubuntu dapper default ?
[12:37] <Flannel> !info linux-image-386
[12:37] <ubotu> linux-image-386: Linux kernel image on 386.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.25 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[12:37] <Daynah> Do you guys know if it's okay for me to take a hard drive out of my computer BEFORE I  take it off of my fstab?
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow> ladydoor: settinge,setup, enter password and click ok isnt too bad...
[12:37] <znull> flannel and why  it dosen't want to install restricted modules for 2.16.15.27 ? any ideea ?
[12:37] <White_Hamster> quit
[12:38] <lupine_85> MrParanoia: that means absolutely nothing, sorry
[12:38] <ladydoor> Jack_Sparrow: fair enough
[12:38] <lupine_85> presumably it's a PE binary, which means it won't run under linux
[12:38] <Flannel> znull: because .25 is not .27?
[12:38] <killown> gxine don't show video Xvid why?
[12:38] <fernando> my video does not work i have to clik on the screen and wiggle my mouse a couple of time until i get video and still when i do that my video only stays on just for a couple of minutes
[12:38] <lupine_85> (at least, not without wine! ;) )
[12:38] <ludedeeds> Jack_Sparrow: on days like this, do you feel like you're leading the linux revolution? =P
[12:38] <comtechsystems> how can I make a windowsxp machine automatically log into a ubuntu samba share on boot? (map network drive)
[12:38] <znull> flannel : i upgrade my ubuntu and with that kernel he come..
[12:39] <znull> hmm wierd
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> ludedeeds: Some days I'm the windshield, other days I am the bug...
[12:39] <dzenita> fernando: are you running xgl/compiz, cos that happens to me as well with compiz
[12:39] <fernando> yes
[12:39] <knasman> Daynah: sure. it should just generate an error message when it tries to mount it.
[12:40] <Daynah> Knasman: thanks! :)
[12:40] <fernando> what can i do to fix it
[12:40] <stefg> Daynah: of course you can't take the drive out if there's a part of ubuntu on it (like /boot or /usr). Otherwise you can just take it out without consequnces, if it's not the first one with grub (the bootloader) on it
[12:40] <Jack_Sparrow> ludedeeds: Hope that fixes your problem... how long did it usually take to lock up?
[12:40] <killown> gxine don't show video Xvid why?
[12:40] <dzenita> fernando: use metacity? :P
[12:40] <Daynah> Stefg: Oh yeah, hehe, it's just storage. :) Thanks! :)
[12:41] <fernando> hm i have to open my terminal window and download it
[12:41] <dzenita> does anyone here know what's going on with Marvell 88E8036 sky2/sk98lin issue?
[12:41] <Fraj> Hi lads
[12:41] <GutClusters> hello peoples
[12:41] <Fraj> has anyone got any great tools for ubuntu?
[12:41] <linuchsan> dzenita:is there?
[12:42] <dzenita> linuchsan: is there what? an issue? yes
[12:42] <linuchsan> dzenita:so?
[12:42] <nbx909|linux> any one have a flash fix yet?
[12:43] <GutClusters> anyone know how to get ATI IXP sound working?
[12:43] <Jack_Sparrow> nbx909|linux: what is wrong with flash?
[12:43] <nbx909|linux> Jack_Sparrow, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1524100
[12:43] <nbx909|linux> don't update flash
[12:43] <nbx909|linux> lol
[12:43] <nbx909|linux> it breaks
[12:43] <nbx909|linux> lol
[12:43] <lostbuntu> any1 know basic steps to get a sound blaster live working. i cannot see it in lspci?
[12:44] <nbx909|linux> all we need for a temp fix is the previous package
[12:44] <ludedeeds> Jack_Sparrow: i dont really know the exact amount of time it took.. but it was around the same amount of time to make me think that it was a power management problem, but it wasn't
[12:44] <ludedeeds> so.. around an hour or 2.. thought i mostly noticed it when i'd wake up of a morning
[12:44] <steveire> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24142 <<< I get this error message since updating flash. What can I do about this?
[12:45] <ludedeeds> though*
[12:45] <bernie_> any one know the root password for 5.04
[12:45] <Jack_Sparrow> nbx909|linux: I updated late yesterday, what should I do to see if it works?
[12:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !root
[12:45] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:45] <ladydoor> bernie_: there is no root password by default in ubuntu. if you want to su to root you need to give root a password yourself
[12:45] <bernie_> thanks
[12:46] <rukuartic> Hokay, so I've got an odd situation here. I need to do a network install on a PowerPC from an x86 architecture. Is this even feasable?
[12:46] <ladydoor> bernie_: but normally you'd just use sudo
[12:46] <erUSUL> lostbuntu: are you sure it is correctly plugged? if it does not come up in lspci linux does not see it
[12:46] <maddash> can someone show me how to add a shortcut to synaptic to the xfce4 panel?
[12:46] <nbx909|linux> Jack_Sparrow, it shouldn't have installed
[12:46] <nbx909|linux> if it broked
[12:46] <ladydoor> bernie_: also, you might consider upgrading to dapper
[12:46] <blackelf> ladydoor: that is like the #1 FAQ question, they should change "su" program to dispaly info explaining that
[12:46] <nbx909|linux> you can't get past install
[12:46] <lostbuntu> thanks erUSUL
[12:47] <Flannel> blackelf: that would make su useless though ;)  And, I believe it is ... somewhere around here...
[12:47] <ladydoor> blackelf: you mean so that su wouldn't work? i mean, it's a very useful program and i use it, personally
[12:47] <lostbuntu> that is kinda strange because it works fine in FC4
[12:47] <Jack_Sparrow> nbx909|linux: I used this link and got the update from adobe   http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/08/install-mozilla-flash-plugin-in-ubuntu.html
[12:47] <echo1> Has anyone installed the new fglrx? (8.29.6)
[12:47] <nbx909|linux> Jack_Sparrow, ah i was using the nonfree one in the repos
[12:47] <lostbuntu> maybe i should try modprobe it (me a noob)
[12:48] <Jack_Sparrow> nbx909|linux: I was helping jrib figure out a problem for another user..
[12:49] <blackelf> Flannel: ladydoor: no, I ment a change like   + if (login=="root" && root_doest_exist()) printf("WARNING: the root user do not exist yet. In Ubuntu systems root is disabled by default. Give command: 'sudo passwd root' in a termianl (alt+f2 gnome-terminal) to create the root account and then give your own password, finally imput the new password for root user (it must be very strong!)");
[12:49] <erUSUL> lostbuntu: can you paste the lspci to a pastebin?
[12:49] <philipsmith> I'm trying to use remote desktop to access an XP machine on my network. The XP machine is set up properly and the firewall allows remote access. When I use Remote Desktop and put the computer name, username, and password in, I get an error box: unresolved host. What am I doing wrong?
[12:49] <erUSUL> !paste > lostbuntu
[12:49] <nbx909|linux> Jack_Sparrow, what?
[12:49] <Jack_Sparrow> nbx909|linux: The reason I updated flash
[12:49] <nbx909|linux> ah
[12:49] <nbx909|linux> ty
[12:49] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[12:49] <rukuartic> philipsmith: You might not have hostnames configured correctly, try putting the IP addy in.
[12:49] <nbx909|linux> i'll test it and if it works i'll place it in the forums
[12:49] <ladydoor> blackelf: ah, that could be useful. of course, root does exist--you just can't log in as it. but that could be a good idea, esp. if sudo were mentioned as well
[12:50] <Jack_Sparrow> ludedeeds: Still online and working?
[12:50] <blackelf> ladydoor: awesome. let me contribute that idea :)  where is a forum for ubuntu devels?
[12:50] <_tom_> philipsmith, have you tried the IP of the XP machine?
[12:50] <ladydoor> blackelf: #ubuntu+1
[12:50] <ludedeeds> yeah, but i've been... well.. using the internet on the other comp... lol
[12:50] <ladydoor> blackelf: but
[12:50] <ladydoor> blackelf: actually, nevermind
[12:51] <stefg> philipsmith: there's no dns setup... either you call the xp machine by its IP instead of the name, or you have to enter the name and ip into /etc/hosts
[12:51] <Flannel> blackelf: right here in the documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/linux-basics.html#root-and-sudo
[12:51] <rukuartic> Does anyone know if its possible to install PPC architecture to a hard drive with x86 architecture?
[12:51] <blackelf> Flannel: *I* know it. Newbies dont
[12:52] <philipsmith> Rukuartic and Tom: I have the IP of the XP. Where to I enter that on the linux Remote Desktop window? In the "COMPUTER" box?
[12:52] <Crippy-Boy> rukuartic: I dont really know im guessing its not possible though
[12:52] <nbx909|linux> Jack_Sparrow, yep that worked
[12:52] <Jack_Sparrow> ludedeeds: Arrrrgh   20 lashes....   Ok... I am done I'll try and check back in later....
[12:52] <Jack_Sparrow> nbx909|linux: np  Hope it helps
[12:52] <_tom_> philipsmith, yes, instead of the computers name
[12:52] <killown> How I active X composite ?
[12:52] <Jack_Sparrow> goodnight
[12:52] <killown> I use ubuntu dapper
[12:53] <lupine_85> !xgl
[12:53] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:53] <Flannel> blackelf: right, but it's right there in the documentation, and anywhere you go to ask for help ubuntu related will tell you promptly, above that.  'newbies' don't know about sudo, unless they're coming from another distro, in which case, the first place they look after trying is documentation
[12:54] <killown> I can to run xgl in my video card via unichrome igp ?
[12:54] <lostbuntu> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24144
[12:54] <Flannel> killown: #ubuntu-xgl for XGL questions
[12:54] <quiet> i win.. i have 'flash 9' on linux.
[12:54] <Crippy-Boy> I have a question, I wanna ssh in from college, but theres a problem, Im not allowed to use putty and the only similar option i have is telnet, Ive been thinking if i telnet into a chroot jail then ssh to localhost with a more privaledged user, Is that likely to be ok and decrease the security risk of using telnet?
[12:54] <lupine_85> !aiglx
[12:54] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[12:54] <wtfomg> is there a way to set up dual monitor support on ubuntu?
[12:54] <Pierre> for those interested, pinnacle 300i + ubuntu dapper (2.6.15) works with v4l2-dvb from their repository (hg), versions available in the ubuntu repo does not work
[12:54] <wtfomg> !Dual Monitor
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Dual Monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <Flannel> Crippy-Boy: they don't let you use putty?
[12:54] <wtfomg> :[
[12:54] <quiet> i don't have real flash 9... but i don't care.. i can watch SWF's that say they require flash 9  :D
[12:54] <Pierre> from linuxtv repo
[12:54] <Flannel> !xinerama
[12:54] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[12:55] <wtfomg> thank you
[12:55] <philipsmith> TOM: IT WORKED!!!! Thanks so much!
[12:55] <Pierre> wtfomg: with nvidia, just set dualview to 1 in you xorg.conf
[12:55] <wtfomg> i have ati
[12:55] <_tom_> you` re welcome :)
[12:55] <chejo> Hi
[12:55] <killown> How I active write in ntfs file system?
[12:55] <Flannel> killown: you don't
[12:56] <stefg> !fuse
[12:56] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[12:56] <Flannel> killown: or at least, not safely
[12:56] <erUSUL> lostbuntu: you are right no traces of the SB Live card... it may be a bug in the ubuntu kernel :(
[12:56] <Crippy-Boy> Flannel: I have to jump through hoops (ie writing a program to call command.com since theyve blocked most ways to get to any form of command prompt, except they left a compiler in the shared apps, oops), So no, not likely i could convince them either.
[12:56] <chejo> Can you help? I would like to know if there's a program to change the grub splash screen..
[12:56] <chejo> is it?
[12:56] <lostbuntu> just out of interest has any1 here tried to install mythtv on a 6.06?
[12:56] <killown> ha
[12:56] <killown> ok
[12:56] <lostbuntu> mythtv 0.20
[12:56] <Flannel> Crippy-Boy: get a better college ;)  get some OSS ssh program, and compile it ;)
[12:57] <lostbuntu> erUSUL: thanks, i may give up this project as it is not working out too well
[12:57] <chejo> how do I change my grub splash screen???? is there something I can download to make it easy?
[12:57] <erUSUL> !splash
[12:57] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.
[12:57] <Crippy-Boy> Flannel: The college is a pretty high standard, just strict about network rules, And that still wont help,
[12:57] <erUSUL> !grub
[12:57] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:58] <Pierre> Wrentype: you can set it from fglrx-control (not installed by the driver)
[12:58] <Pierre> oops
[12:58] <quiet> Anyone want the ability to watch video's that require flash 9??
[12:58] <Crippy-Boy> The compiling the ssh program wont help i mean, I dont wanna have something like that laying around, Atleast a program that just does a few system() calls i pull an excuse out of a hat for :-)
[12:58] <Pierre> wtfomg: you can set it from fglrx-control (not installed by the driver)
[12:58] <Crippy-Boy> Flannel: basically i just wanna know if telnetting into a chroot jail then sshing to local host will be secure enough.
[12:59] <riddlebox> why would dapper detect my wireless card as eth1 most of the time, but once in a while ndiswrapper detects it as wlan0?
[12:59] <Flannel> Crippy-Boy: what's wrong with a thumbdrive?
[12:59] <chejo> but is it the grub-splash screen?
[12:59] <Flannel> Crippy-Boy: telnet won't be, ebcause your communication is all still plaintext, from your computer to where you're telnetted into
[12:59] <chejo> or just the splash screen?
[12:59] <Crippy-Boy> Flannel: Nothing other than the fact that i cant execute anything from external storage devices.
[12:59] <erUSUL> chejo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto#head-616e8477b76f70cdd317812fef0ac88b248e25b4
[12:59] <quiet> grub doesn't use a splash on ubuntu.
[12:59] <quiet> just black and white.
[01:00] <chejo> exactly
[01:00] <chejo> but I want to change it
[01:00] <Flannel> quiet: you can add a grub splash though
[01:00] <quiet> i know.
[01:00] <chejo> is it possible?
[01:00] <Flannel> chejo: search the forums, someone there did it.  I don't have the link handy though
[01:00] <MukiEX> What's up with this new non-free flash plugin?
[01:00] <quiet> if you have an image, i'd guess.
[01:00] <MukiEX> Is it a fixed-up 7? Or is it just a better package?
[01:00] <quiet> MukiEX: it's teh broken.
[01:00] <MukiEX> eh?
[01:00] <quiet> it fails on install.
[01:01] <MukiEX> Well that's fun.
[01:01] <chejo> but is it kind a difficult? 'cause I'm kind a begginer..
[01:01] <chejo> beginner
[01:01] <MukiEX> Why update the deb then?
[01:01] <Flannel> chejo: It's layed out like most ubuntu-howto things, if I remember correctly, step by step.
[01:01] <Crippy-Boy> Flannel: True, but it'll offer a bit more security than just telnetting no? I dont care about packets being in plain text as no one sniffing on the college network will try and telnet to my computer
[01:02] <quiet> MukiEX: cause they're retarded.  there's a fix on the forums.. but i don't have a link, sorry.
[01:02] <Flannel> Crippy-Boy: no.  It really won't be any more secure.  It'd be like using ssh, with a keylogger on your computer.
[01:02] <Flannel> Crippy-Boy: which college is it, by the way? so I can stay far away from it.
[01:03] <Crippy-Boy> Flannel: I understand what you mean but i feel a little weary running a telnet server outside of an chroot jail as if past experiences tell me anything its a big ugly pile of crud :-)
[01:03] <Guest31250> anybody have any experience in ubunto desktop and getting it to run on imac?  it appears to be running but it doesn't display anything
[01:04] <macker> anyone know of any good DIVX codec software for ubuntu?
[01:04] <Flannel> Crippy-Boy: it still won't be any better, you log into your chroot jail, and then ssh into your box, the person sniffing your telnet still knows how to ssh from your telnet to your real box
[01:04] <Crippy-Boy> Guest31250: Try Ctrl+Alt+F1 then reconfigure x (im assuming thats what it is)
[01:04] <erUSUL> !divx > macker
[01:05] <Crippy-Boy> Flannel: Im not worried about people sniffing, Im worried about general security issues with telnet itsself besides the plaintext issue
[01:05] <variant> lo all, how do you repair xorg.conf? i wiped it by accident
[01:06] <elkbuntu> variant, in a terminal, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:06] <mauro> Xorg is currently taking up 50% of my physical memory. does anyone know how to lower its memory usage?
[01:06] <rukuartic> elkbuntu: thats ugly...
[01:06] <Crippy-Boy> mauro kill -9? :D
[01:06] <rukuartic> variant: Try copying the xorg.conf from the livecd if you have it still
[01:06] <elkbuntu> rukuartic, if he managed to wipe it, he can cope with it
[01:06] <variant> elkbuntu: cool thanks.. you know an up to date tutorial for setting up aiglx?
[01:06] <rukuartic> variant: ask ubotu about aiglx
[01:07] <erUSUL> mauro: restart firefox (because it is surely the culprit)
[01:07] <elkbuntu> variant, i use the fglrx driver on the only machine capable, so no
[01:07] <runa> I have this file, which "file" recognizes as "UTF-8 Unicode text" (the spanish accented characters appear as 3 bytes in the original file). I run "iconv -f UTF8 -t iso-8859-1 s.srt" and get "iconv: illegal input sequence at position 89". Any hints?
[01:07] <viamptor> dapper will come standard with aiglx no?
[01:07] <variant> rukuartic: huh?
[01:07] <viamptor> whoops
[01:07] <viamptor> next releast
[01:07] <viamptor> edgy
[01:07] <rukuartic> variant: elkbuntu's solution will work, but it means a lot of configuring
[01:07] <mauro> not firefox
[01:07] <Guest31250> ctrl+alt+f1 got me to a command prompt, but how to I get to the desktop configuration file at this point?
[01:07] <rukuartic> variant: if you have the install cd that you used, put it in the drive and copy xorg.conf over
[01:08] <Guest31250> <-- ubuntu/linux newbie.
[01:08] <len> Hi, can any1 help me? When I use glxinfo | grep "direct" says direct rendering: No, how can I enable direct rendering?
[01:08] <terlmann> Help!!!! I cant find my fav ho-to guide on the forums! and I am in edgy knot 3! my problem is,the sound.my sound(fresh install) is not working.all i get is humming!           the last time i fixed it(in dapper)i ran apt-get --purge remove something.... and i dont remember! HELP!!!
[01:08] <variant> rukuartic: nah, it worked with regenerating
[01:08] <rukuartic> Guest31250: thats in /etc/x11/xorg.conf, you can edit it with "nano"
[01:08] <lostbuntu> is there a command that will rescan the pci buss looking for new hardware?
[01:08] <Flannel> terlmann: #ubuntu+1
[01:08] <terlmann> thx
[01:08] <elkbuntu> rukuartic, while it's alot of configuring, it is a zillion times quicker
[01:08] <variant> rukuartic: what you say about ubotu ?
[01:08] <erUSUL> runa: try opening it with gedit and then Save as and choose the desired encoding
[01:09] <rukuartic> variant: type "/msg ubotu aiglx"
[01:09] <BrianG> "apt-get --purge remove #ubuntu+1 didn't work!"
[01:09] <len> anybody?
[01:09] <Crippy-Boy> Flannel: Ok, maybe not the best idea ever, Can you think of a semi decent way to acomplish something similar, without having to mess around with compiling stuff, trying to get things to run from external drives etc, As i dont really wanna push it too much i dont fancy getting kicked out :-)
[01:10] <Flannel> Crippy-Boy: get a better college, seriously.  Yours can't be condusive to learning.
[01:10] <riddlebox> why would dapper detect my wireless card as eth1 most of the time, but once in a while ndiswrapper detects it as wlan0?
[01:10] <vonkleist> Hi.
[01:10] <len> how can I enable direct rendering?
[01:11] <rukuartic> riddlebox: Ubuntu's configured to name it ethX, ndiswrapper's configured to name it wlanX
[01:11] <vonkleist> I tried to make an ubuntu installation with 2 disks and RAID1
[01:11] <erUSUL> !lvm
[01:11] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[01:11] <vonkleist> wow!
[01:11] <Polygon> hello, is there any good and reliable software for recovering data from a very messed up fat32 partition?
[01:11] <Crippy-Boy> Flannel: Its the only one within about 30 miles of where i am, And the resources are there for what im studying, i just dont like not being able to access things at home.
[01:11] <vonkleist> thanx, ubotu!
[01:11] <terlmann> flannel-the command has to be the same.
[01:11] <rukuartic> Polygon: autopsy, but its a lot of work
[01:12] <len> !direct rendering
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about direct rendering - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <Polygon> what do you mean a lot of work
[01:12] <riddlebox> rukuartic, but I blacklisted the bcm43xx drivers and ndiswrapper is started at boot, but it still detects the card as eth1, I just want to make it do one or the other all the time
[01:12] <Flannel> !tell terlmann about sound
[01:12] <Polygon> cause right now im preprated to do anything to get that stuff back lol
[01:12] <vonkleist> ummmm....
[01:13] <vonkleist> that's not a very good how to
[01:13] <vonkleist> mainly if you're trying to do a software raid
[01:13] <vonkleist> somebody has any experience on a software raid?
[01:13] <stefg> man mdadm
[01:14] <vonkleist> hahaha
[01:14] <vonkleist> so...
[01:14] <vonkleist> first I install, and then I go through mdadm...
[01:14] <rukuartic> riddlebox: try "modprobe -r ndiswrapper"
[01:14] <vonkleist> isn't there any way to do it on installation time?
[01:14] <riddlebox> then I will loose my connection?
[01:14] <Flannel> vonkleist: You need the Alternate ISO
[01:14] <Polygon> !autopsy
[01:14] <ubotu> autopsy: graphical interface to SleuthKit. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.06-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 368 kB, installed size 1364 kB
[01:14] <nicnac> after making changes, how do I reload back into gnome or do I have to reboot the machine?
[01:15] <handless> anyone know what may be causing me to only be able to boot into safe mode it just tells me that x has failed
[01:15] <Polygon> you can only boot into safe mode?
[01:15] <Xenguy> nicnac: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start  ?
[01:15] <len> I need a help with direct rendering plz!!!
[01:15] <mwe> restart, no?
[01:16] <Flannel> nicnac: you got out of it with the ctrl-alt-f#?  f7 puts you back to the GUI, if that's what you did to get out of it.  but yeah, yo'll need to restart X for changes to take effect
[01:16] <mwe> if it is already running
[01:16] <Polygon> if you use an nvidia card handless, a recent kernel updated borked the nvidia drivers
[01:16] <Polygon> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257459
[01:16] <handless> yes i can only boot into safe mode, ive restarted many of times and that didnt seem to fix it im thinkn maybe video drivers i have a ati x700 mobility
[01:16] <vonkleist> thank you Flannel... so... without the alternative ISO there's no way, I guess...
[01:16] <Polygon> oh
[01:16] <Flannel> vonkleist: right.  the desktop ISO doesn't have that functionality
[01:17] <Polygon> your computer was working recently right, like within the week?
[01:17] <rukuartic> Does anyone know if its possible to install the PPC version of linux to a hard drive on an x86 machine?
[01:17] <vonkleist> thank you!
[01:17] <handless> nah i just installed and can only boot into safemode
[01:17] <mwe> rukuartic: it sounds silly
[01:18] <Polygon> oh so you just installed today... hmm
[01:18] <stefg> !doesn't work > len
[01:18] <handless> sorry i should of said that
[01:18] <handless> well last night
[01:18] <Polygon> it hasnt worked at all
[01:18] <Polygon> ?
[01:18] <handless> negative
[01:19] <Tokenbad> what would this mean?  gunzip: nwresources129.tar.gz: invalid compressed data--length error
[01:19] <Polygon> were you able to start x with the live cd?
[01:19] <mwe> Tokenbad: broken file probably
[01:20] <Gradius9> hm, ubuntu stops at boot at "kernel log" when I have installed the DWL 510 (wlan card pci), when removed it starts fine, altrough the card is supported by linux. Are there anything I can do?
[01:20] <handless> ive tried it both ways and nothing
[01:20] <Tokenbad> hmm....had it work just days ago..it messed up and gave that error so redownloaded...now doing it again
[01:20] <Gradius9> anyone?
[01:20] <len> stefg: When I use glxinfo | grep direct  give me as awnser direct rendering: No. And this is not allowing me to use cedega
[01:20] <Polygon> are you sure that the iso you downloaded was not corrupted? did you use bittorent or a http download
[01:20] <variant> rukuartic: great, i allready know what aiglx is.. i was asking if anyone knew a link that would help set it up?
[01:21] <handless> yeah i checked the md5 and it came back good, and i checked the disk on another computer and it installed fine on there
[01:21] <Polygon> i dunno then, thats really weird
[01:21] <stefg> len you've got to tell what graphics card you have, and possibly what driver you're using.
[01:22] <mwe> !
[01:22] <Polygon> the only suggestion that i could give is maybe reinstall it again and see if it fixes it, if not there might be some problem with your hardware or something
[01:22] <rukuartic> variant: Search the forums :P I don't have one on hand, but they're there.
[01:22] <variant> rukuartic: all out of date :/
[01:22] <len> stefg: I have geforce 7800 gtx and driver is nvidia-xgl
[01:23] <handless> everything seems to work find hardware wise except the video but i cant find where theres a video conflict should reinstall the video drivers with the ones from the ati site
[01:23] <variant> wtf is ubuntu edgy? is that 6.06 dev version or stomgin?
[01:23] <mwe> !edgy
[01:23] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:23] <len> GTX: ?
[01:23] <variant> mwe: thnx
[01:23] <Polygon> maybe, that might do something
[01:23] <GTX> You highlighted me!
[01:23] <Rug> Howdy all
[01:24] <stefg> len, check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, if it says nvidia, not nv in the driver section
[01:24] <len> stefg: says nvidia
[01:24] <quintin> Does the livecd start sshd automatically?
[01:24] <astopy> quintin: I doubt it
[01:25] <variant> quintin: nope
[01:25] <mwe> it doesn't. that would be extemely silly
[01:25] <Flannel> quintin: no, ubuntu has no ports open by default
[01:25] <variant> quintin: how could you log in? there is no user/password afaik
[01:25] <handless> i guess my main question should be how do i get the drivers from ati to install i was unsuccessful in my last try
[01:26] <Flannel> variant: ubuntu/[blank] 
[01:26] <len> stefg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24145
[01:26] <Xenguy> quintin: ps aux |grep sshd
[01:26] <quintin> Xenguy: not an option!!
[01:26] <quintin> My problem is I have another box i need to access over network
[01:26] <quintin> I have no monitor mouse or keyboard
[01:26] <Xenguy> quintin: hmm
[01:26] <quintin> so I need livecd that will get dhcp lease over network and start sshd so I can continue.........
[01:27] <corhere> I have a laptop with an intel i810 chipset. I have found information on the internet on how to setup xorg.conf to allow multiple monitors on the laptop and the vga-out, or the s-video port. Is there any program that can let me change the settings for that on the fly so that I can choose whether to output to a tv or a monitor without changing xorg.conf?
[01:27] <quintin> (I am using a portable currently)
[01:27] <quintin> corhere: do a google search for ubuntu multiple monitor and you will find one.  I forget what it is called...  some gnome thingie
[01:27] <corhere> quintin: i have googled for that exact phrase, but I have found no program yet
[01:28] <rukuartic> corhere: On my laptop, you press fn+f5 to switch... I don't know what programs are available.
[01:28] <quintin> corhere: I did before... try multiple display maybe... google knows all
[01:28] <stefg> len, have you run 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable' ?
[01:28] <quintin> corhere: or search on ubuntuforums.  but there is a program... I read threads about it
[01:29] <variant> can i install mutliple jvm/jdk's in ubuntu or can they not be installed alongside each other?
[01:29] <len> stefg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24147
[01:30] <mwe> variant: they can but one has to be default
[01:30] <Flannel> variant: sure, but you'll have to keep track of paths and stuff the programs are using and stuff
[01:30] <handless> should i handle the ati x700 mobility the same as if it were a x700 cause i can find no information about the x700 mobility but i can find plenty on installing the x700
[01:30] <variant> mwe: cool, is there a proper way to keep that in check or is that up to me?
[01:30] <mwe> handless: I think you need fglrx
[01:31] <mwe> variant: are you using .debs ?
[01:31] <handless> ok, so then it should be treated as a different card then
[01:31] <StFS> has anyone updated the flashplugin-nonfree package
[01:31] <variant> mwe: im switching from gentoo (5 years) to xubuntu.. cus i like the way it works :)
[01:31] <stefg> len, true.. you've messed with your xorg.conf... do a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[01:31] <variant> mwe: I havent started yet
[01:31] <StFS> I'm getting some rc-update or something when it's installed
[01:31] <StFS> error that is
[01:31] <mwe> variant: well if you use .debs it's easy. just use update-alternatives
[01:32] <variant> mwe: I need to develop with sun jdk 1.5 but dont need that to be the default jvm
[01:32] <handless> cause im thinkin thats my issue cause in the driver list it shows up as x700 not an x700 mobility so i think its reading the card wrong and is causing x to error out
[01:32] <len> stefg: oh gosh.. here we go again lol
[01:32] <variant> dont want it too either
[01:32] <variant> mwe: cool
[01:32] <JuGhEaD__> I'm looking for a live distro that I can use with my wireless on my laptop - I've read conflicting info about the Intel pro wireless 3945 ABG - does the latest ubuntu recognize this out of the box?
[01:33] <handless> im still fairly new to this i just know i hate windows and want to transfer to linux and will work as hard as needed to do so as long as its possible but if it isnt then i wanna find out before i spend days tring
[01:33] <rjohnson> hello, i have a question about network settings, anyone have a moment
[01:33] <rukuartic> rjohnson: Ask yer question mate, someone'll get to it :)
[01:33] <deceptacon> can xubuntu run on 128 mb ram ?
[01:33] <variant> JuGhEaD__: dunno about the ubuntu live cd but you should really check out slax.org
[01:33] <cpk2> JuGhEaD__: you can always try the livecd to see if it does
[01:33] <variant> deceptacon: yesp
[01:33] <variant> deceptacon: yep
[01:33] <len> stefg: should I use frame buffer?
[01:33] <JackONeill> ?
[01:33] <Gradius9> how do I enter a safe mode in ubuntu?
[01:33] <variant> deceptacon: the live cd is a bit crap with that though
[01:33] <JuGhEaD__> sounds good
[01:33] <rukuartic> handless: Try out the live CD, its really neat.
[01:33] <deceptacon> ill install to hdd then
[01:33] <stefg> len, doesn't matter, but it's safer to say no
[01:34] <variant> deceptacon: make plenty of swap
[01:34] <handless> ive used the live cd it will only boot in safe mode
[01:34] <deceptacon> around how much would you say?
[01:34] <Xenguy> Gradius9: I think there is an option at logon ?
[01:34] <rukuartic> handless: Hrrm. Thats intersting.
[01:34] <deceptacon> right now i have 370mb for debian
[01:34] <rjohnson> k, thanks...i recently installed ubuntu 6.06 for my 64bit sys, and it isnt setting the network settings right, the live cd did initially now it wont either
[01:34] <Gradius9> Xenguy, hm let me check...
[01:34] <Flannel> Gradius9: grub menu, you'll need to hit escape to show it, then select the safe mode
[01:34] <Xenguy> Gradius9: (gdm)
[01:34] <variant> deceptacon: if you have two hard disks make two parttions at the start of each disk both swap and set the swap priority for both in fstab to be 0.. they will be used symultainiously improving performance drasticaly
[01:35] <Flannel> Gradius9: or, safe gnome, yeah, that's a session thing
[01:35] <rukuartic> rjohnson: How do you mean it won't let you set network settings?
[01:35] <deceptacon> variant: sorry i only have one hdd
[01:35] <variant> deceptacon: np
[01:35] <JackONeill> !ubuntu+1
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu+1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <Gradius9> Flannel, ok, just hit esc an early boot
[01:35] <Gradius9> at
[01:35] <handless> i have a ati x700 mobility and its showing up in safe mode as being an ati x700 now im not sure if thats whats causing x to fail or if its something else but all my other hardware seems to work great on the live cd
[01:35] <variant> deceptacon: just a tip
[01:35] <deceptacon> variant: you think 370mb swap will cover for xubuntu ?
[01:35] <Flannel> Gradius9: do you want safe mode gnome? or a root prompt?
[01:35] <variant> deceptacon: you should go for 500 - 600 at least
[01:36] <deceptacon> okay, im on it
[01:36] <Gradius9> Flannel, I do not know yet, because I have a HW problem and I am new til Linux
[01:36] <deceptacon> thanks
[01:36] <variant> deceptacon: unless your really strapped for hd space
[01:36] <rjohnson> well, the gui tool in system -> admin -> networking doesnt seem to fix it and manuall changing /etc/netowrk/interfaces doesnt either
[01:36] <JackONeill> !nextrelease
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nextrelease - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <Flannel> !edgy
[01:36] <rjohnson> i am sure i am wrong tho....
[01:36] <variant> deceptacon: plesure
[01:36] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:36] <JackONeill> !schedule
[01:36] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[01:36] <mwe> my laptop is never using any swap space
[01:37] <JackONeill> ubuntu can go bye bye till oct 26th.. dapper just wasn't up to much :S
[01:37] <variant> mwe: how much ram you got?
[01:37] <nicnac> thank you guys, ubuntu is up now.  the screen default refresh and video cards were being initialized with the wrong settings.
[01:37] <mwe> variant: 768 MB
[01:37] <stefg> mwe: good, so read about tmpfs to put it to good use >;-)
[01:37] <Gradius9> Flannel, brb
[01:37] <variant> mwe: same here nearly :)
[01:37] <JackONeill> no reason it may be delayed further is there?
[01:37] <Kewlb> what is the proccess to upgrade from say 6.0.6 to 6.10
[01:37] <len> stefg: should I use all modules? (*Bitmap, dbe, *ddc, *dri, *extmod, *freetype, *xgl, *int10, record, *type1, v4l, *vbe)? or leave selected (those 1 with *)
[01:37] <variant> Kewlb: apt-get dist upgrade i think
[01:37] <Kewlb> does it require a complete reinstall or will there be an upgrade package.
[01:37] <handless> anyone know where i can find good information on installing the ati drivers so i can try a different one
[01:37] <JackONeill> is 6.10 edgy?
[01:37] <Kewlb> oh, sweet.
[01:37] <ladydoor> Kewlb: you should really hold off until 6.10 is actually *released*
[01:38] <Kewlb> yeah
[01:38] <gunnar_> Hello, I have the 'no screens found' bug that was reported a few weeks ago.  Could some one point me to a URL that has the info for recovering from it.  ( All I have is lynx for a browser. ) Thanks.
[01:38] <Kewlb> not doing anything right now
[01:38] <Kewlb> I just got this system like I want it and I am VERY happy
[01:38] <ladydoor> Kewlb: if you don't know how to dist-upgrade already, then you don't need to be installing a development release
[01:38] <fildo> hi, i have an external dvd burner, via firewire,  .would i have to mount the drive or would it autodetect ?
[01:38] <ladydoor> Kewlb: sweet
[01:38] <Kewlb> ladydoor, not planning on it.
[01:38] <ladydoor> Kewlb: sweet
[01:38] <stefg> len , leave the defaults
[01:39] <mwe> variant: I read a few years ago that as a rule of thumb twice the ram would make sense for swap so I made a 2GB swap partition to be safe. I have never seen it being used yet in about 8 months
[01:39] <L0cKd0wN> HELP!!! I chowned a folder as user 'public' , group 'public', then thru the GUI, added my normal user into the 'public' group, when I try to FTP in as this normal user and make a folder or move data in the folder, I get an error, but when I try with the 'public' account everything works fine, how do I make normal user have access to stuff 'public' owns
[01:39] <rjohnson> i have this sys dual booting with windows and the nic works in windows
[01:39] <Kewlb> would the upgrade replace customized software that has been installed.. ie: like mplayer (since I compiled it myself so it supports wmv files)
[01:39] <variant> mwe: yeah, that rule of thumb was created when people were fortunate to have 28mb ram :D
[01:39] <Flannel> mwe: nah, that rule was good, but for most people, 1GB of RAM is plenty, I usually go with 1GB of swap, but more than 1GB of swap is too much.
[01:40] <variant> mwe: its irrelevent nowadays
[01:40] <L0cKd0wN> ...and how can i make it so normal user, can move data and create new directories in the FTP ?
[01:40] <L0cKd0wN> TIA
[01:40] <rukuartic> rjohnson: What's your current settings? /msg me them
[01:40] <rjohnson> k
[01:40] <mwe> variant: yeah maybe so.
[01:40] <variant> mwe: as you noticed it never gets used.. its good to have loads on a server that might experiance sudden high loads..
[01:40] <Flannel> Kewlb: no, if you compiled anything yourself, it's not under package management, and won't be upgraded
[01:40] <mwe> variant: sure
[01:40] <Kewlb> flannel: thanks! Excellent!
[01:41] <Tokenbad> there is no way to fix a tar.gz file is here?
[01:41] <variant> mwe: i think 1gb is what i would go for.. but maybe two seperate hard disks with 512mb each
[01:42] <bl4cktone> Hey guys my amaroK keeps freezing, I can't seem to figure it out I thought it was xgl but does the same in regular gnome anyone have an idea what's going on?
[01:42] <Flannel> L0cKd0wN: add the users to the group, and chown it to that group, ftpusers or whatever.  And, your name is bloody hard to nick complete
[01:42] <variant> Tokenbad: yeah i think there is.. not certain but i remember somthing from a few years back.. check the tar manpage
[01:42] <jojoman02> how do i check the gdm logs to see why my ubuntu is not starting up?
[01:42] <jojoman02> gdm loads but not gnome
[01:42] <zack_> Whenever i try to startx from my user account i wont start but if im in root adn use the command "startx" it works. what could be wrong?
[01:42] <Flannel> jojoman02: you running XGL?
[01:42] <variant> jojoman02: less /var/log/gdm
[01:42] <mwe> variant: yeah. that way you'd only waste 1GB instead of 2 ;)
[01:42] <stefg> For a good read: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-fs3.html#2
[01:42] <jojoman02> no i am not
[01:42] <jrib> /what
[01:42] <variant> zack_: whats the output from x when you run startx as a user? (use pastebin)
[01:42] <jojoman02> variant: thankz
[01:43] <zack_> variant well it said it couldnt find /dev/wacom, which i looked for and apparantly theres no folder
[01:43] <variant> zack_: you trying to set up xgl/aiglx?
[01:44] <mwe> stefg: what would you suggest to keep on tmpfs?
[01:44] <zack_> variant, i had set it up previously but once i tried to remove it this is what happened
[01:44] <bl4cktone> Is there some way I can look at a amarok log file or something to see what caused it to go poop? somebody?
[01:44] <variant> zack_: yeah, sounds liek a borked config.. it just so happens that thats the exact problem i just had but seeing as its a new install i just reinstalled (its a sin i know :))
[01:45] <L0cKd0wN> Flannel: is there a way via terminal to check that certain users are in a certain group? to make sure I didn't mess it up?
[01:45] <zack_> variant, is there no solution besides reinstall?
[01:45] <gunnar_> Hello, I have the 'no screens found' bug that was reported a few weeks ago.  Could some one point me to a URL that has the info for recovering from it.  ( All I have is lynx for a browser. ) Thanks.
[01:45] <Flannel> L0cKd0wN: 'groups'
[01:45] <brasileiro> i can't config my soundcard, it's working with XMMS but now with video players...
[01:45] <stefg> as the name suggest /tmp , and maybe /var/tmp, but the FSHS says /var/tmp should survive a reboot
[01:45] <knasman> L0ckd0wN: groups <username>
[01:45] <variant> zack_: yeah, reconfigure the xorg.conf file
[01:45] <variant> zack_: i forget the command
[01:45] <ludedeeds> Tokenbad: are you Misfit99?
[01:46] <THX-1138> !sound
[01:46] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[01:46] <THX-1138> !alsa
[01:46] <variant> zack_: did you back up those files before you tried to install xgl?
[01:46] <Tokenbad> ludedeeds, from dalnet I used to go by misfit99 yes
[01:46] <Flannel> gunnar_: just apt-get out of it (sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade)
[01:46] <zack_> variant i have tried to reconfig x alot of times so far  and it does not fix it
[01:46] <ludedeeds> muahaha.. awesome.. long-ass time, no see.. this is HB..
[01:46] <Tokenbad> HB?
[01:46] <ludedeeds> hackerbee
[01:46] <Tokenbad> oh damn
[01:46] <zack_> variant i backed up the custom gdm file which i restored and i knew exactly what changes where made to the xorg file and removed those changes also
[01:46] <Tokenbad> been a real long time
[01:47] <variant> zack_: as somone sugested earlyer to me, mount the livecd and copy the xorg.conf from that and restart gdm
[01:47] <ludedeeds> register your damn nick yo
[01:47] <h4ch3r> hello
[01:47] <ludedeeds> lol
[01:47] <len> stefg: done
[01:47] <h4ch3r> i heva problem
[01:47] <mwe> stefg: but my /tmp is usually around 256 KB in size
[01:47] <ladydoor> !language
[01:47] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:47] <zack_> thanks variant i will try that soon
[01:47] <Kewlb> oh crap yes
[01:47] <ludedeeds> sorry door chick =D
[01:47] <h4ch3r> 0000:00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: ALi Corporation M5455 PCI AC-Link Cont roller Audio Device (rev 20)
[01:47] <Borat> Hey, does anyone know how to hack myspace fromubuntu????
[01:47] <h4ch3r> no alsa sound!
[01:47] <h4ch3r> :(
[01:47] <stefg> len, so sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:47] <Kewlb> may sound kinda gay.. but on my ntfs partition I found the source code to a MUD I started programming like 6 years ago
[01:48] <jrib> Borat: this is not the place for that
[01:48] <Kewlb> wonder if it will compile
[01:48] <L0cKd0wN> Flannel: ok i did: 'chown ftp:ftp /mnt/hdb1' then did 'groups normaluser' which returned the group 'ftp'
[01:48] <czer323> Xubuntu Text install...  Does it actually ask for a user/pass?  Cause I seriously can't remember one.
[01:48] <Kewlb> oh sorry thats OT.
[01:48] <len> stefg: kk I'll brb
[01:48] <Flannel> czer323: It does
[01:48] <Flannel> L0cKd0wN: make sure it's writable by the group too
[01:48] <ladydoor> Kewlb: yeah, that totally has to do with sexual orientation
[01:48] <L0cKd0wN> Flannel: how do I go about doing that?
[01:48] <Borat> jrib: can you tell me a place for that? i have been looking all over for the right IRC's
[01:48] <czer323> Flannel> That's the alternate text based cd?  And it defiantely asks for user and pass?  Well... Crap.  here goes another hour install.
[01:49] <variant> Borat: for what?
[01:49] <Flannel> czer323: it does, yes.
[01:49] <Flannel> czer323: unless you did the OEM install
[01:49] <Flannel> L0cKd0wN: ls -l
[01:49] <darnell> whats a linux alternative to microsoft publisher
[01:49] <Borat> variant: harmless hacking.
[01:49] <Kewlb> I guess "geeky" would have been a better term.
[01:49] <jrib> Borat: I don't know, but probably not on freenode
[01:49] <h4ch3r> ????
[01:49] <variant> Borat: oh, your a troll.. didnt realise. pretend i didnt speak to you :)
[01:49] <Borat> jrib: thanks..
[01:49] <L0cKd0wN> drwxr-xr-x 2 ftp ftp 4096 Sep 17 19:36 games
[01:50] <Borat> variant:  a troll like the green trools?
[01:50] <L0cKd0wN> that good?
[01:50] <stefg> !info scribus
[01:50] <ubotu> scribus: Open Source Desktop Publishing. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.4.1.dfsg-1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 5056 kB, installed size 15360 kB
[01:50] <L0cKd0wN> Flannel ^^
[01:50] <Borat> variant:  like the movei trolls?
[01:50] <Flannel> L0cKd0wN: that's not writable by the group, you'll want to change that ;)  (user group everyone)
[01:50] <poningru> !java
[01:50] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[01:50] <variant> lol what a tosser borat was
[01:50] <nalioth> !offtopic
[01:50] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:50] <len_> stefg: K, i'm back
[01:50] <Flannel> L0cKd0wN: rwx read write execute, you'll notice your second one is r-x which means no writing, you'll want to add that
[01:50] <L0cKd0wN> Flannel: im really new to linux.... how do i do that... lol
[01:51] <Flannel> L0cKd0wN: chmod
[01:51] <L0cKd0wN> Flannel: ok 1 sec
[01:51] <gunnar_> Flannel: All I get is a update-rc.d error about installing flashplugin-nonfree. :(
[01:51] <variant> lostsync: chmod +x file
[01:51] <Flannel> L0cKd0wN: sudo chmod o+w file
[01:51] <h4ch3r> hello sem can help me
[01:51] <h4ch3r> audio controller?
[01:52] <h4ch3r> 0000:00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: ALi Corporation M5455 PCI AC-Link Cont roller Audio Device (rev 20)
[01:52] <variant> lostsync: chmod +w file i mean
[01:52] <h4ch3r> no alsa sound
[01:52] <czer323> Does recovery mode act the same as single user?  Firing it up now.  So, then how could I find the user's name?
[01:52] <darnell> whats a linux alternative to microsoft publisher
[01:52] <stefg> darnell: scribus
[01:52] <Flannel> darnell: scribus, someone already said that
[01:52] <EricBlair> nvu or scribus?
[01:52] <shawn> anyone have a python 2.5 package for dapper?
[01:53] <stefg> !info scribus
[01:53] <ubotu> scribus: Open Source Desktop Publishing. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.4.1.dfsg-1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 5056 kB, installed size 15360 kB
[01:53] <ninix> hi
[01:54] <infidel> anyone here run a custom kernel?
[01:54] <L0cKd0wN> Flannel: how do I apply chmod to an entire folder and everything inside of it? 'chmod o+w /mnt/hdb1 ' ?
[01:54] <ninix> anyone use VMWARE on a dell inspiron 9400 ?
[01:54] <Flannel> L0cKd0wN: hdb1?  You don't want to do that.
[01:54] <len_> stefg: what else should I do?
[01:54] <L0cKd0wN> Flannel: hehehe i don't!? lol
[01:55] <stefg> len now see what glxinfo | grep direct spits out
[01:55] <len_> stefg: direct rendering: No
[01:56] <stefg> len is this a laptop/budget system with shared video memory?
[01:57] <len_> stefg: no, it's a strandard desktop pc
[01:57] <L0cKd0wN> Flannel: ok i think that did the trick
[01:57] <L0cKd0wN> gonna test it :)
[01:57] <Flannel> L0cKd0wN: if it's on an entire mountpoint, you probably want to use the umask in the fstab, instead of chmod/chown
[01:57] <czer323> Flannel: LOL, so I logged in Single User (Recovery mode) and looked at the /etc/password and /etc/shadow and neither one have any user entries that I would have created.  ANy other places to look?
[01:58] <Flannel> czer323: you sure you didn't do an OEM install?
[01:58] <Flannel> czer323: and, it's hardly a lost cause, just make a user ;)
[01:58] <czer323> Flannel> If i had, I could log in with OEM... And I can't.
[01:58] <botxj> how do i create "symbolic links" ?
[01:58] <phaedrus44> how does one write to an ntfs or fat32 partition from ubunut?
[01:58] <L0cKd0wN> Flannel: i didn't even think of that!
[01:58] <botxj> how do i create "symbolic links" in ubuntu?
[01:59] <Flannel> phaedrus44: fat32 -- just like normal, ntfs (you don't, it's unsafe, you can hose your whole drive, but if you REALLY want to, see !fuse)
[01:59] <echostorm> hey guys, anyone know what the command is to remove the 386 kerenl from my system? im sick of seeing updates for it and in grub , i use the k7 kernel... I had it written down somewhere and cant find it now
[01:59] <len_> stefg: so, no ideia?
[01:59] <stefg> len_, hmm, strange. nvidia stuff is normally well supported, so i don't know why your card thinks it's not dri -capable. what does glxgears -printfps say?
[01:59] <Flannel> echostorm: just remove it via apt
[01:59] <echostorm> ok
[01:59] <Flannel> echostorm: or, whatever frontend
[01:59] <hondje> echostorm: sudo apt-get remove linux-386
[01:59] <echostorm> ahh
[02:00] <phaedrus44> !fuse
[02:00] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:00] <echostorm> thanx thats what i was looking for
[02:00] <len_> stefg: 17510 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3501.898 FPS
[02:00] <EricBlair> Flannel - You are amazing to watch. - Thanks for being here to answer questions.
[02:00] <Flannel> echostorm: you'll probably also want to remove the kernels themselves, and all the older ones ;)  linux-image-version-stuff
[02:00] <acuster> any news of breakage in edgy?
[02:00] <echostorm> yeah, im about to go housecleaning lol
[02:00] <acuster> just upgraded from knot 3 to latest and my system is hosed
[02:01] <stefg> len_: then i think it works, just glxinfo is confused
[02:01] <ricky_> hey peeps
[02:01] <len_> stefg:  I also used 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable'
[02:01] <phaedrus44> can a windows connect to my system via ftp?
[02:01] <Flannel> acuster: #ubuntu+1 would be more able to tell you
[02:01] <Flannel> phaedrus44: if you have an ftp server
[02:02] <echostorm> theres actually a windows program that will read linux style partitions and fead/write to them in windows... if your trying to make a storage drive you might want to just go that route
[02:02] <elkbuntu> !nz
[02:02] <ubotu> nz is the New Zealand LoCo Team has a channel at #ubuntu-nz
[02:02] <ricky_> does anyone know a website that can tell me how to use xchat? its my first time using it.
[02:02] <echostorm> took me about an hour to figure out but i transfer media between the 2 all the time whenever its needed
[02:02] <phaedrus44> Flannel:   is it quick and easy?  im a moderate linux user
[02:02] <EricBlair> ricky - i think /set help will give you some info
[02:03] <ricky_> ok thanks eric
[02:03] <Flannel> phaedrus44: um, pretty much.  The wiki has some tutorials, there are a few servers
[02:03] <Flannel> !ftp
[02:03] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[02:03] <Flannel> but, just searching for ftp on the wiki will give you a few pages, then manually pick out the ones that look promising ;) (the ones with those servers in them)
[02:03] <botxj> how do i create "symbolic links" in ubuntu?
[02:03] <len_> stefg:  was I supposed to do it?
[02:04] <Flannel> botxj: ln (LiNk)
[02:04] <feross> echostorm: I use a program to read EXT partitions from Windows. Works great.
[02:04] <Flannel> phaedrus44: actually, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FtpServer
[02:04] <stefg> len_: doesn't matter after you reconfigured xorg
[02:04] <acuster> thanks Flannel, that's what I needed
[02:04] <k31th> Any one about who can script. currently i type smbldap-passwd username // then it askes for new passwd 2wice, is there any way to make it... smbldap-passwd username password
[02:04] <hondje> botxj: ln -s for sym links, ln by itself is for hardlinks
[02:05] <k31th> ??
[02:06] <echostorm> feross : I use the same thing .. I love it... i just restrict access from linux to windows and vice versa and use a 120gb storage drive for all programs/movies/games i need to transfer or save
[02:06] <ricky_> anyone know a good wireless router i could get??
[02:06] <phaedrus44> this is stoopid but what is my address
[02:07] <ontobach> i have a linksys... older model
[02:07] <ontobach> still great though
[02:07] <morrolan> whoa
[02:07] <phaedrus44> for my ftp server?
[02:07] <morrolan> does anyone know much about wine?  #wine is dead.
[02:07] <hondje> phaedrus44: /whois phaedrus44
[02:07] <jbroome> !wine
[02:07] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:07] <hondje> k31th: IIRC, you need to use smbldap tools to make some certs and keys
[02:07] <ricky_> is linksys one anygood? i was looking at a netgear one but i dont know if they are much good?
[02:08] <k31th> hondje: wat
[02:08] <Flannel> phaedrus44: it'd be your IP, if you have a router, you'll need to do some port forwarding.  If this is inside a home network thing, it'll be 192.168.0.XXX, you'll have to look that up
[02:08] <ontobach> I'm sure they're fine.
[02:08] <morrolan> I have a small problem with Wine - my program is installing properly, but there is no text on the installer - missing fonts problem?
[02:08] <k31th> hondje: no i really dont.
[02:08] <hondje> k31th: to make it only ask once
[02:08] <Flannel> ricky_: if youre into hardware hacking, get a wrt54G, one of the older versions (see the wikipedia page)
[02:08] <czer323> Flannel> I'm having a stupid attack.  I created the user with adduser, but how do I give the new user the same abilities to use Su?  Administrative rights?
[02:08] <ricky_> whats the range like for wireless?
[02:09] <bimberi> morrolan: try installing msttcorefonts
[02:09] <hondje> k31th: I could be totally wrong, but that's my recollection. Needless to say I avoid LDAP whne I can :)
[02:09] <EricBlair> morrolan - msttcorefonts, gsfonts, gsfonts-x11 and mozcntrl can help.
[02:09] <feross> hey anyone mess around wifi-radar. I must be missing something. I have a working wpa_supplicant.conf file but when I tell wifi-radar to use wpa it does not work. suggestions?
[02:10] <morrolan> EricBlair: thanks, I'll install them now
[02:10] <k31th> hondje: yeah ldap hell
[02:10] <tjb891> does anyone know how to view the contents of a .dat file from xp?
[02:10] <rathel> where do I add apps I want to load on boot? like I want to load Tuncfg on boot, so I don't have to load it later for hamachi/
[02:10] <brian98> Hi, simple task but finding no luck, how do you clear the places menu?
[02:11] <Flannel> czer323: you do that mostly with groups, admin group, for instance
[02:11] <Sir-Stupcarp> hi, I'm having trouble installing
[02:11] <RamiKassab> hey guys what are some of the best cd rippers out there for linux? I'm looking for one that does MP3s and perhaps other formats, ogg, etc
[02:11] <Sir-Stupcarp> apparently the thing just hangs after the partitioner inits
[02:11] <Sir-Stupcarp> it allows me to use terminals, etc.
[02:12] <Sir-Stupcarp> but it just sits there and the hard drive just blips
[02:12] <Sir-Stupcarp> does nothing
[02:12] <ricky_> sound juicer rips cd's i think
[02:12] <Flannel> RamiKassab: sound juicer, or grip,
[02:12] <RamiKassab> ricky_: I didn't see the ability to do MP3 though
[02:13] <ubuntu> hai all trying ubuntu
[02:13] <Flannel> RamiKassab: you need to add mp3 codecs first,
[02:13] <Flannel> !tell RamiKassab about mp3
[02:13] <RamiKassab> Flannel: can grip do mp3? sound juicer didn't have the option... I may need to install and mp3 codec perhaps
[02:13] <stefg> !mp3
[02:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:13] <ubuntu> anybody from holland?
[02:13] <Flannel> RamiKassab: then, I believe, it'll be able to do it, without any additional tweaking
[02:13] <stefg> !nl
[02:13] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[02:13] <RamiKassab> Flannel: do you think that grip or better or sound juicer?
[02:14] <darnell> whats upwith the flashplugin-nonfree..
[02:14] <darnell> i keep getting error msgs
[02:14] <stefg> !flash
[02:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:15] <blackelf> !flash m
[02:15] <blackelf> !flash me
[02:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash m - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:15] <blackelf> bah.
[02:16] <Flannel> RamiKassab: I prefer Grip, ... I think (it's been a while since I've used either) it's because Grip will lookup id3 info... but, of course, I'm still on breezy, thigns might have changed for dapper
[02:16] <rathel> how can I make tuncfg start at boot as root? so I don't have to start it later for hamachi.
[02:16] <stefg> !boot
[02:16] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[02:16] <RamiKassab> Flannel: ah I got ya... I think sound juicer does that now... it searched the cd directory musicbrainz.org to find titles and what not...
[02:17] <RamiKassab> Flannel: I'm guessing it stores id3 tag info too
[02:17] <ricky_> just add it to ur startup programs in system > preferences > sessions
[02:18] <bagpuss_thecat> evening all
[02:19] <handless> hello everone
[02:19] <ricky_> hey
[02:19] <handless> im stuck again
[02:19] <brian98> Hi, simple task but finding no luck, how do you clear the places menu?
[02:19] <handless> ive tried to find drivers for the x700 mobility but cant
[02:19] <wheelswitch> is there a switch for tar which allows you to make an archive that is split up into multiple files of a particular size?
[02:20] <ricky_> is x700  ati yeah?
[02:20] <ezerhoden> wheelswitch: man tar
[02:20] <juanas33> hey... does anyone know where I can find my c header files for my kernel? im running 2.6.15-27-386
[02:20] <handless> yeah
[02:20] <wheelswitch> yeah, is it the -M option
[02:20] <Flannel> juanas33: you can apt-get them
[02:20] <gpettit> Hi, any suggestions for doing a minimal install?  Just enough to use apt-get to install other packages.  Thanks
[02:20] <bagpuss_thecat> juanas33: if you have module-assistant installed, try running 'module-assistant prepare'
[02:20] <stefg> !info build-essential
[02:20] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[02:20] <wheelswitch> it isnt obvious how you set the size you want
[02:20] <Flannel> gpettit: get the alternate ISO, and type 'server' at the boot prompt
[02:20] <handless> i think from what ive been hearing a and reading that i need new drivers or different drivers for ubuntu to allow me to boot properly
[02:20] <juanas33> Flannel, bagpuss_thecat: thanks
[02:20] <echo1> How do I update a kernel module?  I installed the new fglrx (8.29.6) but the kernel module is 8.25.18
[02:20] <juanas33> Flannel: is there a specific name?
[02:21] <bagpuss_thecat> echo1: module-assistant a-i fglrx-kernel I think
[02:21] <gpettit> thanks flannel, what is the alternalte ISO
[02:21] <mad_man> when i minimize the browser and other programs i lose them. they do not drop down to the panel. how do i get the program to drop down to the panel for easy mazimizing ?
[02:21] <Jack_Smirnoff> Is there a vob to mpeg converter.?
[02:21] <handless> it will only let me boot in safe mode and have a resolution of 1024X768 and my resolution is much higher then that normally cause i have a big widescreen monitor
[02:21] <ricky_> i'm not sure handless
[02:21] <EricBlair> killall gnome-panel ?
[02:22] <afields_> how do I get postgresql odbc drivers installed?
[02:22] <Flannel> gpettit: it's the old textmode installer, no liveCD, available same places you download normal Desktop ISO
[02:22] <czer323> Flannel> I'm having a super hard time.  None of the default groups have been made on this install.  Only root as been made as a group.  Should I be worried? Or just add my user as part of the group root?
[02:22] <echo1> bagpuss is module-assistant a gnome thing?
[02:22] <Jack_Smirnoff> !vob
[02:22] <Flannel> !tell juanas33 about kernel
[02:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vob - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:22] <EricBlair> nvm - the panel will open again
[02:22] <echo1> (im on kubuntu)
[02:22] <Flannel> czer323: er, yeah.  Sounds like the install didn't complete
[02:22] <quiet> aghem..   http://quiet.unixcorps.org/files/linux-flash-9.png
[02:23] <Flannel> czer323: You're probably better off reinstalling, who knows what else isn't installed correctly
[02:23] <gpettit> Flannel: THANKS!
[02:23] <czer323> Flannel> Thanks anway for the help though.  I'm really leary of that text mode cd though.  I'll give it one more go and if it's funky again, it's off to the trashcan.
[02:23] <tjb891> is anyone having trouble updating the flash-nonfree plugin?
[02:24] <Flannel> czer323: I only use the alternate ISO ;)
[02:24] <afields_> I've tried unixodbc and odbcinstdebian1
[02:24] <afields_> neither contains a postgresql driver
[02:24] <Flannel> czer323: you sure you burned it well? nice and slow??
[02:24] <afields_> I did manage to get postgres started
[02:24] <czer323> Flannel> It was probably 32x.  I might look into reburning if it errors again.
[02:24] <ricky_> yeah i couldnt get it to install yesterday so i installed the adobe one
[02:24] <afields_> so postgres-8.1 package does work
[02:24] <Flannel> czer323: 4x is recommended
[02:25] <afields_> however it has a bad default config which bombs the configure scripts
[02:26] <slugsworth> what might cause the C compiler to be unable to create executables?
[02:26] <Flannel> slugsworth: you don't have one ;)  install build-essential
[02:26] <Flannel> slugsworth: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:26] <ricky_> lol
[02:26] <slugsworth> thanks!  :)
[02:27] <slugsworth> The guide I'm trying to follow to get my PCMCIA sound card doesn't list the required setup
[02:27] <grimx> i downloaded and installed BitTorrent and installed it using(sudo alien) . now how do i run BitTorrent
[02:27] <ladydoor> grimx: isn't there a native ubuntu build of bunches of bittorrent clients
[02:28] <Flannel> !info bittorrent
[02:28] <ubotu> bittorrent: Scatter-gather network file transfer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.2-6ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 92 kB, installed size 580 kB
[02:28] <Flannel> yes
[02:28] <grimx> yes but i cant find the app to run it
[02:28] <morrolan> EricBlair:  I already have all of those font packages installed, but still no fonts in wine?
[02:28] <Flannel> grimx: remove that one, install the one fro mthe repository, it'll have a menu item
[02:29] <grimx> i did the sys install of bittorrent but can't find it to execute it
[02:29] <ricky_> whats the best bittorret client to use with ubunty anyway??
[02:29] <afields_> Where do I get odbc-postgresql ?
[02:29] <EricBlair> morrolan - hm - I don't know what to suggest.
[02:29] <ladydoor> ricky_: there are a lot. bittorrent. bittornado. azureus
[02:29] <ladydoor> ricky_: it's a matter of preference
[02:30] <mosila> hi, anybady
[02:30] <ricky_> see i liked utorrent on windows
[02:30] <ricky_> but i have to go through wine to use it on linux
[02:30] <cyphase> how do you check your CPU model in ubuntu?
[02:31] <EricBlair> uname
[02:31] <cyphase> --processor isn't working
[02:31] <TigerCR1200> ricky_, I have been using ktorrent it is close enough to utorrent, however it is a kde app so it uses more memory due to loading kde libraries
[02:31] <blackelf> uname -a
[02:31] <spdf> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:31] <blackelf> also cpuid
[02:31] <EricBlair> spdf - has it.
[02:31] <ladydoor> ricky_: you might like azureus or bittornado-gui
[02:31] <grimx> i installed bittorrent using synaptic package manager now how do i run bittorrent
[02:32] <jrib> grimx: applications > internet > bittorrent
[02:32] <Megaqwerty> I've been having many problems with various programs where they all said "failed: Cannot assign requested address" does anyone know how to fix this?
[02:32] <Megaqwerty> *this problem
[02:32] <grimx> it does not show up there
[02:32] <ricky_> don't really like bittornado, doesnt really show enough info i think, where can i get ktorrent to install
[02:33] <spdf> ktorrent is in the repos
[02:33] <Megaqwerty> grimx: try Alt-F2 bittorent, that may do it
[02:34] <Megaqwerty> I don't have bittorent so I don't know what command you would use to run it, but it would be something along those lines. Unless you were using KDE, as KDE seems to be very good about putting all your apps in the taskbar
[02:34] <grimx> that did not work either
[02:34] <Megaqwerty> try man -k torrent see what commands you get in there
[02:34] <jrib> grimx: install gnome-btdownload
[02:34] <Flannel> grimx: go into synaptic, make sure you can see details, then go to the package, and you can check what files it installed, and with that, the executable name, then do that in the run dialog
[02:36] <ricky_> hey, does ubuntu have a thing like windows device manager, that shows if something isnt installed properly or doesnt have a driver???
[02:36] <grimx> got it thanx Flannel and jrib
[02:36] <Megaqwerty> I've been having this problem with various programs where they all said "failed: Cannot assign requested address" does anyone know how to fix this?
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Is there a good easy tool to take non commercial vob's from a dvd and make them into mpg for use in a powerpoint display?
[02:37] <EricBlair> mencoder??
[02:37] <ludedeeds> morning already Jack?
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> It needs to be simple enough for a high school teacher
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Non morning yet, helping a friend
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> ludedeeds: Is it still working
[02:39] <ludedeeds> yeah.. but since you went to bed... i didn't wait and see if it was still broken.. lol.. figured i'd find out when > I < went to bed =P
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> ludedeeds: The fact that it was working lat long was encouraging
[02:39] <ludedeeds> yeah, but i was using the internet nearly the entire time, for apt-get's
[02:40] <grimx> ok bittorrent shows up in applications menu but when i click it nothing show up on screen
[02:40] <spdf> Jack_Sparrow: You could use dvdrip, cut down on file size too by using avi's
[02:40] <ludedeeds> and from what i was noticing before, it only went down on idle time
[02:40] <bmcfarli> any oh you guys happen to use banshee?
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> spdf: He would still need to convert those avi to mpg for powerpoint would he not?
[02:41] <Axidus> does anyone know where the compiler is for Ubuntu dapper drake?
[02:41] <spdf> Jack_Sparrow: AVI's will work in powerpoint
[02:41] <ludedeeds> would depend if it were a divx avi, or a standard avi
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> spdf: SHows how much I know about powerpoint..
[02:41] <echo1_> bagpuss_thecat: how goes your kernel module changing?
[02:42] <Megaqwerty>  I've been having this problem with various programs where they all said "failed: Cannot assign requested address" does anyone know how to fix this?
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> spdf: Let me simplify the question... I need to convert vob's for use in powerpoint ... dont care about the file type, just need to keep it simple... He teaches auto shop if that is any clue
[02:42] <dunkel> just a quickie, how do i restart X? dont want to close programs...
[02:42] <bagpuss_thecat> echo1_: not done it yet, still dist-upgrading to edgy :-)
[02:43] <TigerCR1200> dunkel, not possible but ctrl alt backspace will restart it.
[02:43] <ChaosFan> dunkel: as graphical programs are clients of the xserver they won't continue running when restarting X
[02:43] <dunkel> oh, i see...thanks!
[02:44] <spdf> Jack_Sparrow: Hmm, in windows I gather
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Megaqwerty: I must ask... Have you run scripts like Automatix, (NOT recommending that you do.) to install anything?
[02:44] <spudds> I know this is a generic Linux question but I just added a new Hard drive.  How do I actually get it added to the system so I can use it?
[02:44] <bmcfarli> hey guys whats the best itunes like media player?
[02:44] <Megaqwerty> Jack_Sparrow I may have in the past
[02:44] <spdf> bmcfarli: Rythmbox does a decent job
[02:44] <JackONeill> I installed ubuntu then installed windows after (side by side) - how can I get grub back?
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Megaqwerty: Scary how doing that comes back to haunt people
[02:44] <EricBlair> !grub
[02:44] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:44] <Megaqwerty> I screwed something up didn't I?
[02:45] <Megaqwerty> Jack_Sparrow: Is there some way to fix that without re-installing ubuntu?
[02:45] <Megaqwerty> p.s. I think I used EasyUbuntu
[02:45] <bmcfarli> spdf, i like banshee or listen music player, but both crash anything like those, but dont crash/
[02:45] <spudds> Is there a howto anywhere describing how to add a new HD to Ubuntu?
[02:46] <ladydoor> spudds: do you know the device name?
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Megaqwerty: I dont mean to be curt... But I am exhausted...  I really dont have the time or energy to try and untangle the mess that Automatix can make of a system
[02:46] <_tom_> !mount
[02:46] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[02:46] <Megaqwerty> Damn
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Megaqwerty: Easyubuntu is better than it was....
[02:46] <spudds> ladydoor: it's a scsi disk sdb?  I don't have an x environment btw.  Is it mkfs?
[02:46] <Megaqwerty> Jack_Sparrow: is there a guide somewhere I could use?
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Megaqwerty: SOmeone may be able to get you fixed up.. let them know what all you have tried..
[02:47] <ladydoor> spudds: errrr...that's not what i meant. ok...basically there's file in your /etc dir called fstab, which has information about all of your partitions. to mount it, you need to tell ubuntu about it
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> ludedeeds: Let me know tomorrow if that fixed the problem you were having.. If so I will add it to my notes..
[02:48] <ricky_> anyone know what ports i have to allow on firestarter for ktorrent to work properly?
[02:48] <ladydoor> spudds: to look at the sort of "device name" you'll be looking for, do less /etc/fstab to look at the file. other than that, i've got nothing on this :-)
[02:48] <Megaqwerty> Can someone help me fix the damage Automatix and/or EasyUbuntu may or may not have done to my system?
[02:48] <ladydoor> Megaqwerty: go to #automatix
[02:48] <spudds> ladydoor:  This is a a new disk.  Will it show in the fstab?
[02:48] <Megaqwerty> thanks
[02:48] <bmcfarli> what can automatix do?
[02:48] <tritium> Megaqwerty: that's why we recommend avoiding automatix
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> ricky_: I use guarddog firewall manager.. it shows the different programs and types of access...
[02:48] <Megaqwerty> lol
[02:48] <ladydoor> spudds: it will if you put it there. i'm suggesting you look at it so you'll know what you're looking for :-)
[02:49] <Megaqwerty> yeah, I used it when I knew nothing about Linux
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> bmcfarli: Automatix can hose your system beyond repair
[02:49] <Flannel> bmcfarli: it can break your system, really well.
[02:49] <Megaqwerty> I read it was helpful in Linux Format Magazine. Stupid me.
[02:49] <ricky_> do you think guarddog is better that firestarter?
[02:49] <bmcfarli> how do you know if it hosed your system?
[02:49] <bmcfarli> b/c noob me...i used it
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !best
[02:49] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> ricky_: Do I like it better.. yes...
[02:50] <sess> !worst
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about worst - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <ricky_> is guard dog in the respos?
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> I think so...
[02:50] <ricky_> must just check here
[02:50] <spudds> ladydoor:  I've looked in fstab.  I understand the general format of it from Sun/HP/etc.  Looking in the /dev directory, I see a device called sdb, which I assume is my new 2nd physical hard-drive.  Don't know what to do now...
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Yes it is
[02:51] <ladydoor> bmcfarli: you'd probably know
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Once again... goodnight all
[02:51] <ricky_> ok, does it have a gui an all, just b4 i try it?
[02:51] <ladydoor> spudds: sweet! that's good news. now, do sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb to see the partition name(s) on it
[02:51] <tritium> ricky_: apt-cache search can look for things in the repos, as can a search via synaptic
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> ricky_: yes
[02:51] <ricky_> thanks
[02:51] <spudds> ladydoor:  k, trying.
[02:52] <ladydoor> spudds: coool...
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> ricky_: Leave me a note if you like it just so I know...
[02:52] <ricky_> will do
[02:52] <spudds> ladydoor: shows all the guts and then says there isn't a valid partition table (which I would expect)
[02:52] <ladydoor> spudds: aha! ok, and you say you're *not* in x?
[02:52] <ricky_> lol but first how do ya uninstall firestarter.... just through the packet manager?
[02:53] <spudds> ladydoor: no.  do I do a fdisk, create one large partition, do a makefs, then mount?
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> ricky_: No need to uninstall firestarter
[02:53] <gunnar_> Hello, I have the 'no screens found' bug that was reported a few weeks ago.  Could some one point me to a URL that has the info for recovering from it.  ( All I have is lynx for a browser. ) I even tried to do a dist-upgrade.  That didn't work either.  Thanks.
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> they are just managers
[02:53] <tjb891> when i try to install flash it gives me a error message, how can i fix this?
[02:53] <ricky_> ?? would 2 firewalls not conflict?
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Not actual firewalls
[02:53] <ricky_> ooooohhh right sorry
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> tjb891: http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/08/install-mozilla-flash-plugin-in-ubuntu.html
[02:54] <ladydoor> spudds: you could do that, yeah, sounds like you know what you're doing (better than i do when it comes to fdisk, actually). so i guess do that and then do sudo fdisk -l again, and then put the line for that partition in fstab & mount it.
[02:54] <flamesro1k> guys, I'm having REAL trouble setting up this dlink repeater. Now I'm supposed to connect it to the machine, and then type into the address bar 192.168.0.30, but how do I hook gentoo up to range extender?
[02:54] <flamesro1k> like how do I ifconfig it?
[02:54] <flamesro1k> its connected via ethernet
[02:55] <ricky_> Jack i've installed it but theres no icon under apps?
[02:55] <tritium> flamesro1k: this is not a gentoo channel
[02:55] <fmasi> helo I would like to know how bi should a /tmp partition be ? any sugestion
[02:55] <spudds> ladydoor: thanks lady.  done it many times in Sun but unsure in linux. thx for the help.
[02:56] <flamesro1k> nah, this is actually on edgy eft, I just retyped what I had in #gentoo, but nobody could help
[02:56] <flamesro1k> do you know tritium ?
[02:56] <bmcfarli> yeah I havent noticed anything other than some programs hang.
[02:56] <tritium> fmasi: don't make one.  /tmp is now in ram
[02:56] <ladydoor> spudds: np! i think you would've gotten there on your own :-)
[02:56] <Cornelius> hi
[02:56] <Code-E> !tell Code-E about ati
[02:56] <Cornelius> how do i find out what kernel i have?
[02:56] <ryan_> hey
[02:56] <gnomefreak> Cornelius: uname -a
[02:56] <ryan_> what
[02:56] <Cornelius> thx ;)
[02:56] <ryan_> ok
[02:57] <fmasi> tritium, so no nead to creat a /tmp ok thx. since wen did it moved to ram
[02:57] <tritium> fmasi: yeah, don't create a partition for it
[02:57] <ryan_> anybody no how do install a netgear wireless on linux
[02:57] <Code-E> I like pie
[02:57] <Kewlb> !python
[02:57] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 125 kB, installed size 532 kB
[02:58] <Code-E> !pie
[02:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <fmasi> tritium, i creating a / ; /boot ; swap ; /home do you sugest creating any other partition ?
[02:58] <Code-E> :o
[02:58] <Kewlb> hrm
[02:58] <ladydoor> Code-E: don't harass the bot
[02:58] <Kewlb> whats the name of the python package?
[02:58] <Cornelius> Linux zzsputnik 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 01:51:59 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux   what does the last i686 mean?
[02:58] <Cornelius> 
[02:58] <tritium> fmasi: it's mostly personal preference.  Looks fine to me.
[02:58] <Code-E> sorry
[02:58] <gnomefreak> carlos: its best to ask the channel
[02:58] <fmasi> tritium, ok thx
[02:58] <Megaqwerty> Jack_Sparrow: here is what they said:
[02:58] <Megaqwerty> (17:57:26) arnieboy: motherfuckers
[02:58] <Megaqwerty> (17:57:30) arnieboy: tell them that
[02:58] <Megaqwerty> (17:57:34) arnieboy: go back there
[02:58] <Megaqwerty> (17:57:37) jtbl: what now arnieboy
[02:58] <Megaqwerty> (17:57:44) arnieboy: and tell they are a bunch of motherfuckers
[02:58] <Megaqwerty> (17:57:52) arnieboy: thats our response
[02:59] <Megaqwerty> (17:58:10) jtbl: they on #ubuntu always play this game
[02:59] <Megaqwerty> (17:58:27) jtbl: every problem in ubuntu is caused by automatix
[02:59] <gnomefreak> Cornelius: i686 is the processor
[02:59] <tritium> Megaqwerty: stop pasting
[02:59] <gnomefreak> Megaqwerty: stop
[02:59] <Megaqwerty> sorry
[02:59] <Megaqwerty> Forgot
[02:59] <fmasi> any one around have tryed reiser4 or any one uses XFS ? (i going to try XFS and was thinking about reiser4)
[02:59] <Code-E> lool
[02:59] <EricBlair> !language
[02:59] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:59] <gnomefreak> Megaqwerty: there is no need to paste that anyway
[02:59] <Cornelius> yoo, thanx
[02:59] <Megaqwerty> gnomefreak: just trying to show Sparrow that they aren't going to help me
[03:00] <gnomefreak> Megaqwerty: than i suggest if automatix isnt gonna support their own programs that you dont use it. ubuntu supports ubuntu apps not 3rd party apps
[03:01] <carlos> I want to install a program called Flex. I couldn`t install it using apt-get because I didn`t find it in the repositories. But I did in flex.sourceforge.net.I`ve downloaded a tar.gz file, but I don`t know how to install it. Can anyone help me?
[03:01] <Megaqwerty> gnomefreak: I don't use it (anymore) I used it a while back when I didn't know very much about Ubuntu
[03:02] <Megaqwerty> I have no intention of ever using it again
[03:02] <Code-E> !stuff
[03:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stuff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:02] <jrib> !info flex
[03:02] <ubotu> flex: A fast lexical analyzer generator.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.31-38ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 219 kB, installed size 756 kB
[03:02] <Code-E> !tell Code-E about java
[03:02] <gnomefreak> Code-E: stop playing with the bot
[03:02] <jrib> carlosflex should be in the main repository.  Are you sure that that is enabled?  You can post your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org if you want us to take a look
[03:03] <Code-E> ?
[03:03] <Code-E> sorry
[03:03] <Code-E> I just need some information from it
[03:03] <Code-E> i forget stuff
[03:03] <dunkel> can i give read only rights to users on my ntfs-3g partitions? now they have every right and i cant modify permissions even as root
[03:03] <gnomefreak> Code-E: /msg ubotu <what you want to know>
[03:03] <Code-E> !tell code-e about limewire
[03:03] <Code-E> ok
[03:04] <Cornelius> gnomefreak  does that mean that i must i use i686 kerner headers
[03:04] <Code-E> sorry gnomefreak.
[03:04] <gnomefreak> Code-E: yes
[03:04] <Cornelius> for VMware
[03:04] <gnomefreak> damn
[03:04] <gnomefreak> Cornelius: yes
[03:04] <Cornelius> once again thanx :D
[03:04] <gnomefreak> Cornelius: you most likely have a P4
[03:04] <Cornelius> amd xp
[03:05] <gnomefreak> same speed
[03:05] <regx> omg
[03:05] <regx> i am so bord
[03:05] <Code-E> my internet is so slow its taking 10 minutes to download my ati drivers :(
[03:05] <spudds> ladydoor: fdisk: create a big partition (/dev/sdb1 in my case), mkfs -t ext3 /dev/sdb1. Mount and done. thx for the help
[03:05] <gunnar_> Hello (Once Again), I have the 'no screens found' bug that was reported a few weeks ago.  Could some one point me to a URL that has the info for recovering from it.  ( All I have is lynx for a browser. ) I even tried to do a dist-upgrade.  That didn't work either.  Thanks.
[03:05] <JackONeill> how do I use the 5.10 live cd without it loading X!?
[03:05] <ladydoor> spudds: swweeeeeeet!
[03:05] <ladydoor> spudds: :-)
[03:05] <gnomefreak> regx: this is not the channel for it join #ubuntu-offtopic and complain about being bored
[03:05] <regx> ya ya
[03:06] <gnomefreak> JackONeill: no such thing as a live cd for 5.10
[03:06] <bmcfarli> oh guys, i have random CPU spikes. How do I see what is causing it?
[03:06] <JackONeill> umm... there was, came with the pack
[03:06] <carlos> when I type apt-get install flex I receive the message, translated for english: the flex package in unavaible, but it referenced by another package... The flex package has no candidates
[03:06] <gnomefreak> oh yeah nvm
[03:07] <JackONeill> so how can I get it to NOT load X and just give me a prompt for restoring grub?
[03:07] <gnomefreak> JackONeill: the live cd is gonna load X by default there is not a way to change that
[03:07] <JackONeill> god damn it
[03:07] <Rug> bmcfarli: top
[03:07] <gnomefreak> JackONeill: watch your language
[03:07] <gnomefreak> !grub > JackONeill
[03:07] <JackONeill> well X won't load - don't ask why I fixerd it on my actually installed ubbuntu] 
[03:07] <gnomefreak> JackONeill: read that
[03:07] <JackONeill> i knnow about grub ffs
[03:08] <gnomefreak> JackONeill: not by the sounds of it
[03:08] <gnomefreak> JackONeill: the site has a way to fix grub with install cd
[03:08] <JackONeill> I just need a prompt, and I can't use X
[03:08] <JackONeill> yeah well I cba with that
[03:08] <Rug> gnomefreak: Which part was offencive?  god?  it?  or damn?
[03:08] <EricBlair> http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/f/flex/   This is the link for flex - it might be incompatible.
[03:08] <gnomefreak> Rug: all of the above
[03:08] <ChaosFan> JackONeill: what about something like a gentoo install cd, actually, these _are_ live cds without X
[03:08] <JackONeill> Rug: none of it... he is just being pretentious
[03:09] <czer323> Flannel>If you're still around, I finally got the installation back up and it looks good.
[03:09] <gnomefreak> Rug: some religons concider that blasphimy
[03:09] <JackONeill> Uncalled for
[03:09] <gnomefreak> JackONeill: it was very called for
[03:09] <JackONeill> Nonsense
[03:09] <JackONeill> You just can't take critism
[03:09] <slugsworth> Can someone help me troubleshoot a PCMCIA sound card?  I think the problem is getting hotplug working / loading the firmware for the card.
[03:09] <gnomefreak> JackONeill: what you said was offensive to some people
[03:10] <JackONeill> Name one
[03:10] <gnomefreak> a cristian
[03:10] <tritium> JackONeill: yellow card
[03:10] <gnomefreak> JackONeill: this is not a debate read the coc if you have any questions
[03:10] <JackONeill> the cock?
[03:10] <gnomefreak> ty
[03:10] <slugsworth> he's a troll, thanks.
[03:10] <ladydoor> tritium ++
[03:11] <EricBlair> tritium - yuo were very patient.
[03:11] <slugsworth> Anyone?  Indigo IO soundcard?  I think I'm not getting hotplug set up correctly... having problems getting the firmware for the card loaded.
[03:11] <redblades> Hi all.
[03:11] <tritium> EricBlair: thanks :0
[03:11] <carlos> Ok... I can download a tar.gz flex file.. but I don`t know how to install it anyway... I don`t know much about linux... What should I do? Unpack? Use 'Make'?
[03:12] <jrib> carlos: did you read what I said before?
[03:12] <redblades> I was wondering, how to you upgrade packages from the shell?
[03:12] <slugsworth> sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:12] <jrib> !apt > redblades
[03:12] <redblades> Thanks!
[03:12] <Rug> gnomefreak: I heard this story once; the story was about a guy how who had a dream.  In that dream _god_ told the guy to build a _dam_. He woke up, wondering how to build _it_. "I know he said, I'll use some _damn_ wood!"
[03:12] <ORI0N-1> hi, i need help with something... I'm completly new to linux, i just installed ubuntu on my system.. i downloaded a mp3 player.. installed the package, but I cannot run the program...
[03:12] <ORI0N-1> why is that?
[03:12] <quintin> !apt > quintin
[03:12] <rmd> Adobe hasn't released Flash 8 for Linux yet, have they?
[03:12] <Code-E> How do I change my resolution
[03:12] <gnomefreak> Rug: dont go there
[03:12] <jrib> rmd: no, and they are not planning on releasing 8.  Going straight to 9
[03:13] <TigerCR1200> rmd, no
[03:13] <gnomefreak> rmd: not going to
[03:13] <Code-E> I'm pretty sure i have my ati drivers installed
[03:13] <jrib> ORI0N-1: what player?
[03:13] <rmd> not going to?
[03:13] <rmd> hmm
[03:13] <gnomefreak> rmd: no
[03:13] <gnomefreak> rmd: straight to 9
[03:13] <slugsworth> Code-E:  System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution?
[03:13] <rmd> that doesnt help me access this page that says i need flash 8, :-P
[03:14] <Max_-> ubuntu + windows XP on a laptop with software RAID1.. is this possible?????
[03:14] <Code-E> slugsworth: only allowing 640x748
[03:14] <EricBlair> you can run nsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file directly adding the needed resolution
[03:14] <dunkel> is it possible to give read only rights to my ntfs-3g partitions for users other than root? now they have all rights and i cant modify permissions even as root (sudo nautilus)
[03:14] <jrib> carlos: do you know what I am referring to?
[03:14] <EricBlair> *sudo
[03:14] <gnomefreak> rmd: ask them flash is non-free
[03:14] <jrib> !mp3 > ORI0N-1
[03:14] <rmd> gnomefreak: i know im just publicly whining.  sorry.
[03:15] <ORI0N-1> !mp3
[03:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:15] <gnomefreak> ORI0N-1: its in your pm
[03:15] <jrib> rmd: it is possible to get flash 9, you just have to run firefox in wine... if you really need it
[03:15] <zack_> could anyone explain to me why the command startx will only bring up gnome from root. when in non root i always get a error
[03:15] <slugsworth> Code-E: ew...  :(    My guess is that the video drivers aren't configured properly / correctly installed - did it allow a higher resolution when you had the default drivers installed?  Are you still using the default drivers, or did you try to install some newer ATI ones?
[03:15] <niki_> hi all...i'm following a tutorial to fix ati drivers....in it, it says to change "ati" to "fglrx" in the DEVICE section...but i have _two_ device sections.  is this normal, or do i need to delete one of them?
[03:15] <zack_> could anyone explain to me why the command startx will only bring up gnome from root. when in non root i always get a error
[03:15] <Josti> @dunkel: u can set the user id and group id via mount options uid and gid
[03:15] <gnomefreak> jrib: there a hack to use flash 8 in ubuntu (but its just that a hack)
[03:15] <ladydoor> zack_: what error would that be?
[03:15] <Megaqwerty> is there a way I can re-install ubuntu (Remove all programs, etc.) but keep my files? Or do I have to back them all up to a USB drive?
[03:16] <dunkel> Josti: in fstab?
[03:16] <ladydoor> zack_: if it's long, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:16] <jrib> gnomefreak: interesting
[03:16] <carlos> jrib: want me to send my source.list?
[03:16] <Code-E> slugsworth: i just updated the driver through the link ubotu said
[03:16] <zack_> ladydoor, how do i paste i there?
[03:16] <ORI0N-1> gnomefreak -> my pm?
[03:16] <jrib> carlos: sure, make a post on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us a link
[03:16] <ladydoor> zack_: visit the site and you'll see
[03:16] <gnomefreak> Megaqwerty: backup your files on a disk or usb stick or a seperate partition
[03:16] <slugsworth> Does anyone still use hotplug?  I'm having problems getting it set up correctly, and unfortunately my soundcard requires it in order to load the correct firmware.
[03:16] <Megaqwerty> thanks
[03:16] <gnomefreak> ORI0N-1: are you using xchat?
[03:16] <ORI0N-1> i'm using Gaim
[03:16] <Josti> niki: you have a device section for every device installed, only change the driver in the device section matching your ATI Card (look @ description)
[03:17] <Josti> @dunkel: yeah, or via -o switch whe mounting in terminal
[03:17] <gnomefreak> ORI0N-1: im not sure how to  view private messages in gaim
[03:17] <EricBlair> dunkel - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24161  This script will find and mount all available partitions with the choice of either root or the logged user.
[03:18] <dunkel> ok, thanks
[03:18] <ORI0N-1> how do i run an installed package?
[03:18] <Code-E> i cant pm you back slugsworth but thanks
[03:18] <jrib> ORI0N-1: which package?
[03:18] <RedRose> How Do I get mouse support in the terminal? I installed server linux but it won't let me use the mouse to slecte text
[03:18] <Rug> rmd: I'd love to hear if it works
[03:18] <EricBlair> thank Seveas when you see him. ;)
[03:19] <rmd> Rug: the wine page says it does.  i'll try it in a minute.
[03:19] <zack_> how can a error into pastebin when the only way i see the error is when i cant startx
[03:19] <ORI0N-1> Ample, and mpg123
[03:19] <zack_> how can i paste a error*
[03:19] <rmd> RedRose: which terminal?
[03:20] <hits> amsn mto loko
[03:20] <jojoman02> anyone know any good file recovery software for ext3??
[03:20] <TigerCR1200> zack_, go here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:20] <zack_> tiger i am there but i dont see how i can go there when im not in gnome
[03:20] <cfedde> Is webmin just not a choice as an ubuntu package?
[03:20] <ORI0N-1> so how do I run those programs?
[03:20] <TJ> what is the command for mounting a usb device?
[03:20] <jrib> ORI0N-1: I think those are both console applications.  Are you just looking for an mp3 player to use in your GUI?
[03:20] <Josti> @jojoman02: testdisk
[03:20] <zack_> tiger, im using gnome now in root
[03:20] <grouchytim> can someone help with a configuration of DNS problem please...total ubuntu noob here.
[03:21] <dpoc> k i got a pretty bad problem with ubuntu
[03:21] <jojoman02> Josti: what do i set as the blocksize when it asks?
[03:21] <dpoc> it works fine and everythin but sometimes, when im browing web sites or just doing random things
[03:21] <dpoc> my monitors screen goes black
[03:21] <carlos> jrib: here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24162
[03:21] <jojoman02> Josti: also photorec stops after a min 50 secs and freezes...
[03:21] <TigerCR1200> zack_, what does opening a browser have to do with being in gnome or not? you mean from command line where you are stuck?
[03:21] <dpoc> and it's like it isn't even connected to the computer
[03:21] <alex_mayorga> good afternoon
[03:21] <Josti> @jojoman02 dont know, ill do a bit of research mom
[03:22] <zack_> tiger, is there a way i can save the output to a file from terminal?
[03:22] <RedRose> rmd:The Virtual terminal on screen 1... Ctrl-Alt-F1
[03:22] <dpoc> can anyone help me?
[03:22] <alex_mayorga> zac_. command parameter > file.txt
[03:22] <rixxon> disable ipv6, how?
[03:22] <grouchytim> i could use some dns config help please
[03:22] <grouchytim> anyone?
[03:22] <TigerCR1200> there is but I cant think of it right now zack_ drawing a blank all the sudden
[03:22] <oliver> join #ubuntu-server
[03:23] <degree> good afternon alex_mayorga
[03:23] <ORI0N-1> yes, i just want an mp3 player that is simple like winamp 2.95
[03:23] <rixxon> ORI0N-1: xmms
[03:23] <alex_mayorga> degree, hi
[03:23] <dpoc> anyone want to help me out?
[03:23] <weakwire> hi i have a question,when i try to "make" i get this.."*** /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.".This is a fresh install fully updated.PLease your helt
[03:23] <jrib> carlos: ok, in the future, when you pastebin text, try to pastebin the actual text by copying and pasting.  But I can see from the screenshot that you do not have the online repositories enabled.  I will have ubotu send you a link with info on enabling them
[03:23] <weakwire> help
[03:23] <grouchytim> help with dns please?
[03:24] <jrib> !repos > carlos
[03:24] <raul> friends, I have a problem with /var, I just move to another partition and write the change into fstab, but starting the system tray to create /var/lock first to mount /var, I already put "/dev/sda3       /var            ext3    nosuid,noexec,nodev     0       2" just below the root mounting line, but nothing change and nothing that use /var is working well
[03:24] <alex_mayorga> I've just installed the Dapper and I'm seeing an oddity that wont let me sign in
[03:24] <jrib> carlos: after enabling the online repositories, you should be able to install flex using synaptic
[03:24] <orbital04> Hi, what is the dhcp daemon used by Ubuntu 6.0....I would like to run it from the command line sometimes...thanx
[03:24] <EricBlair> grouchytim - firestarter firewall is easy to install and will configure network shares easily - Hey i am new to linux did you want a tip on iptables?
[03:24] <EricBlair> !dns
[03:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:24] <alex_mayorga> I've got a Bluetooth keyboard from logitech and whenever I try to log in the CAP LOCK goes crazy
[03:25] <carlos> jrib: ok... thank you! =)
[03:25] <jrib> ORI0N-1: the default one in GNOME is rhythmbox (applications > sound & video), but for it to play mp3's you need to isntall some extra packages.  ubotu will link you to the info, check your private messages
[03:25] <jrib> !mp3 > ORI0N-1
[03:25] <dpoc> okay, i have a weird problem iwas hoping you could help me with. at random times for reasons I don't know, my monitor decides to randomly shut off like it's not even connected to the computer. i've tried using multiple monitors and reattached all my cords, so I know the problem isn't coming from my monitor or cords. can anyone help me?
[03:25] <alex_mayorga> anyone?
[03:25] <grouchytim> thanx eric but the issue is i am static and going thru another linux router but the new ubuntu doesn't seem to have options for naming your dns servers
[03:25] <starscalling> !paste
[03:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:26] <grouchytim> i'm trying to find out where to enable and name those servers
[03:26] <Josti> @jojoman02: your camera is formatted ext2? or is photorec alsousable on normal disks?
[03:26] <grouchytim> and how would be helpful too
[03:26] <jojoman02> Josti: it's not my camera it's my HD and it's ext3
[03:26] <weakwire> anyone?
[03:27] <ChaosFan> zack_: <command> > /path/to/file/you/want 2>&1
[03:27] <grouchytim> and did i mention i can't apt-get due to the dns issue?
[03:27] <naut> just installed dapper 6.06.1
[03:27] <ChaosFan> zack_: with 2>&1 you make sure warnings and errors get to the file, too
[03:27] <naut> adept_updater seems very buggy
[03:27] <raul> anybody helpme with my /etc/fstab
[03:27] <jojoman02> raul, whats the problem?
[03:28] <ChaosFan> zack_: and > /path/to/file redirects std output to a file
[03:28] <zack_> thanks ill try that
[03:28] <naut> two adept_updater processes started on reboot last time
[03:28] <ORI0N-1> thanks :)
[03:28] <_tom_> grouchytim, in network-admin you can` t set a dns-server?
[03:28] <grouchytim> wait one
[03:28] <flamesro1k> how do I add something to the startup script in ubuntu, right around the time eth0 is brought up, but before kdm  and x are started?
[03:28] <flamesro1k> run a command I mean
[03:29] <macker> anyone want to tell me where i can download XGL for ubuntu
[03:29] <macker> :D
[03:29] <raul> jojoman02: I follow a procedure to change mi /home and /var entries to another partitions..../home goes well, but /var  is a PIA (pain in the Ass)
[03:29] <grouchytim> no there is no option for the dns in network-admin
[03:29] <bleck> easyubuntu gives message "Unable to determine desktop environment, falling back to kdesu".  Anyone run into that before?
[03:29] <jojoman02> raul: why do you wanna change the partition for var?
[03:30] <grouchytim> and my gateway address seems to disappear everytime i get out of it too
[03:30] <jojoman02> raul: i can understand /home/
[03:30] <EricBlair> grouchytim - That doesn't sound like fun. -. - http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1511.html  - close but maybe someone else knows?
[03:30] <jrib> bleck: try #easyubuntu
[03:30] <grouchytim> oh hell i'm a tard
[03:30] <grouchytim> thanx tom
[03:30] <_tom_> ;)
[03:30] <grouchytim> now we'll see if it will save my settings
[03:31] <alex_mayorga> anyone using a bluetooth keyboard?
[03:31] <bleck> jrib: thanks
[03:31] <raul> jojoman02: I was with low space in the original locations... so I reorganize everything.....
[03:32] <EricBlair> !bluetooth
[03:32] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[03:32] <grouchytim> tom is reboot required for it to take affect?
[03:32] <EricBlair> any help there?
[03:32] <jojoman02> raul: what is the problem it is giving you?
[03:32] <EricBlair> ifup ?
[03:32] <_tom_> hhm, i don` t think so
[03:33] <grouchytim> ok then it didn't work lol
[03:33] <grouchytim> it won't save my gateway
[03:33] <grouchytim> comes up blank everytime i start the network-admin
[03:34] <raul> jojoman02: I think the problems is that the system is traying to create /var/lock before mount /var then everything goes to the hell, nothing is logging, apache doesn't work, mysql as well, everything to tray to user /var is not working well
[03:35] <_tom_> you mean your gateway network adapter, or your dns-settings? dunno, works fine here...
[03:35] <weakwire> hi i have a question,when i try to "make" i get this.."*** /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.".This is a fresh install fully updated.PLease your help
[03:35] <grouchytim> i mean that the entry for "gateway" disappears after saved
[03:36] <grouchytim> it goes to a blank again
[03:36] <rak_> hey, where should i go to get codecs for divx and all that kind of stuff?
[03:36] <bl4cktone> Hey guys! besides XGL/Compiz what other applications can I load in gnome for some eyecandy y'know impress the friends :)
[03:36] <zack_> this is my error and shows what i did to recieve it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24165
[03:36] <grouchytim> the adapter is present
[03:36] <grouchytim> but the setting for the gateway goes blank
[03:36] <alex_mayorga> my bluetooth devices work, just seeing random problem at the log in screen
[03:36] <grouchytim> i saved it as a location too
[03:36] <livingtm> I cant seem to get Flightgear to run on dapper... I get the following error: libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b. Anyone had any success with it?
[03:37] <grouchytim> and that one doesn't hold it either
[03:37] <jojoman02> raul, well i can't help you much, perhaps someone else might be able to
[03:37] <aNdre> aiiiiiibiuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[03:37] <aNdre> aiiiiiibiuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[03:37] <aNdre> aiiiiiibiuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[03:37] <_tom_> wait, ill paste something grouchytim  :)
[03:37] <aNdre> aiiiiiibiuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[03:37] <LoRez> Warning: `aNdre' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[03:37] <alex_mayorga> the CAPS LOCK is acting weird and the <return> key wont work
[03:37] <variant> yo, im getting perl warnings about my locale settins not being supported or installed on my system. anyone know how i can fix that?
[03:37] <Hor|zon> after XGL/compiz nothing is worth showing friends
[03:37] <aNdre> Leirez|Fs
[03:37] <aNdre> eae cara
[03:37] <Paladine> !restricted
[03:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:37] <aNdre> tranquilo?
[03:37] <raul> thanks for tryit, anybody else??
[03:37] <zack_> after installing XGL then in a attepmt to remove it i lost the graphical login prompt and can no longer start x except from teh root account. here is the error, can someone help me? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24165
[03:38] <UdontKnow> aNdre: pare de fazer flood aqui. e use o #ubuntu-br para portugues. aqui eh ingles :)
[03:38] <EricBlair> aNdre - #buntu-es ?
[03:38] <UdontKnow> EricBlair: -br
[03:38] <EricBlair> ubuntu-pt
[03:38] <Josti> @jojoman02: you can get the blocksize by doing "ls -al" in a directory on the disk if its still mountable and looking for the size of a directory
[03:38] <aNdre> 01
[03:38] <EricBlair> We will try to help here. if we can...
[03:38] <jojoman02> Josti: everything in the parition got wiped...
[03:39] <jojoman02> Josti, i will try that tho
[03:39] <Hor|zon> zack: do you use a wacom?
[03:39] <Hor|zon> zack_*
[03:39] <Josti> @jojoman02: wait, much easier....
[03:39] <zack_> hor|zon, im not sure what wacom even is i have never noticed it until this error
[03:39] <ludedeeds> what's the best p2p software under linux? something like limewire or shareaza or something...
[03:40] <Hor|zon> zack_, just delete the wacom devices from your xorg.conf then
[03:40] <Josti> @jojoman02: dumpe2fs /dev/xxx | grep size
[03:40] <Hor|zon> you'll know what I mean when you look
[03:40] <carlos> how can I install the basic C libraries like stdio.h ?
[03:41] <Hor|zon> also make sure to remove them from the ServerLayout section aswell
[03:41] <zack_> hor|zon should i put # before the lines or just erase them
[03:41] <oliver_savage> bl4cktone maybe look into fluxus, vision egg, avs on sourceforge, maybe projectM, not XGL but cool in their own right.
[03:41] <Hor|zon> it's safe to erase them but backup your xorg.conf incase you do soemthing wrong
[03:41] <Hor|zon> something*
[03:41] <Josti> jojoman02: worked?
[03:41] <ChaosFan> zack_: or just use # instead of backing up
[03:42] <grouchytim> weird now i'm getting an authentication rejected error when i start network-admin
[03:42] <bl4cktone> Oliver_savage: I'm just using Compiz and wanted to add to it :)
[03:42] <jojoman02> Josti: well lets try recovering to tell...
[03:43] <Hor|zon> ChaosFan, lol I don't because I don't like messy files and there's no point them even being there...I don't know why xorg loves to add them
[03:43] <raul> anyone with experience in linux filesystem????
[03:43] <lastnode> raul, what do you need?
[03:43] <terlmann> man,this knot 3 edgy is sooo buggy...
[03:43] <ladydoor> terlmann: yup, it's a development release!
[03:43] <ChaosFan> Hor|zon: but commenting out is great for checking if you're not sure what is up
[03:43] <EricBlair> You actually got it to boot?? - ;)
[03:44] <terlmann> yea.... i expected some things to not work...
[03:44] <raul> lastnode: my system is traying to creeate /var/lock before mount /var
[03:44] <terlmann> but it seems that it is all broken(a little bit all over)
[03:44] <Hor|zon> ChaosFan, we know what is up...it's looking for /dev/wacom which it can't find
[03:44] <lastnode> terlmann, that is to be expected, and edgy discussions should go in #ubuntu+1, please
[03:45] <lastnode> raul, is this during init?
[03:45] <aNdre> hi
[03:45] <aNdre> .
[03:45] <terlmann> no big breaks(am in openbox,did some fixes with aptitude)but little breaks all over...
[03:45] <lastnode> hi aNdre, how may we be of service today? :-)
[03:45] <degree> a little bit all over sounds like A GOOD SONG
[03:45] <aNdre> lastnode:
[03:45] <quadriko> this is the largest duped channel i'v ever had the privilege of visiting
[03:45] <aNdre> 
[03:45] <terlmann> lastnode:evryone there is asleep ;)
[03:45] <aNdre> not sei
[03:45] <lastnode> aNdre, #ubuntu-es ?
[03:45] <aNdre> lastnode:
[03:46] <aNdre> what?
[03:46] <lastnode> aNdre, what are you trying to say?
[03:46] <grouchytim> _tom_ are you still there?
[03:46] <aNdre> not sei
[03:46] <aNdre> whats your name?
[03:46] <aNdre> :D
[03:46] <_tom_> grouchytim, yeah, but i have not much of an idea...
[03:46] <aNdre> lastnode:
[03:46] <aNdre> whats your name?
[03:46] <aNdre> :D
[03:46] <grouchytim> more info.... i can ping the router but no further than that
[03:47] <ladydoor> aNdre: please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:47] <raul> lastnode: yeah... the system is running but some process that try to use /var then freeze a little then continue, but nothing is logging
[03:47] <aNdre> ladydoor:
[03:47] <aNdre> ah ta
[03:47] <aNdre> :/
[03:47] <lastnode> aNdre, for informal chit-chat, we use #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:47] <aNdre> aham
[03:47] <aNdre> valeu mesmo
[03:47] <_tom_> so it is another pc?
[03:47] <aNdre> :/
[03:47] <lastnode> please keept this channel free for support
[03:47] <aNdre> hum
[03:47] <grouchytim> yes
[03:47] <lastnode> raul, that's wierd, can you see which process tries to write (during which part of the init)
[03:47] <grouchytim> it's mandrake if i remember right
[03:47] <terlmann> one good thing is gaim,the account adding dialog has been reworked.big time.
[03:48] <quadriko> are debian packages compatible with ubuntu?
[03:48] <grouchytim> yeah it's mandrake
[03:48] <aNdre> lastnode:
[03:48] <lastnode> quadriko, yes and no.
[03:48] <aNdre> pq no diz teu nome?
[03:48] <aNdre> porra
[03:48] <quadriko> how so
[03:48] <aNdre> =D
[03:48] <Gibbonz> does anyone else have problems with right click menus sometimes acting screwy, like closing soon as they open?
[03:48] <raul> lastnode: yep, I press esc and see it, /var writting problems
[03:48] <ladydoor> !br
[03:48] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:48] <lastnode> aNdre, if you keep ignoring what i said, and spamming this channel, ill be forced to call an op on you
[03:48] <_tom_> ok, the mandrake machine is your gateway then? grouchytim
[03:48] <terlmann> yes/no
[03:48] <grouchytim> and the router has no problems going out
[03:48] <aNdre> lastnode:
[03:48] <grouchytim> yes
[03:48] <aNdre> olha
[03:48] <lastnode> ladydoor, i've already told him, and he understands english
[03:49] <degree> Is there an ap which will show the status of my numlock and cap key? I have a wireless KB and it doesn't have any lights on it
[03:49] <aNdre> nao estou compreendendo-lhe
[03:49] <aNdre> :D
[03:49] <CromagDK> any nvidia dualscreen dudes here please look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1524637#post1524637  bit of a problem for me atm.
[03:49] <ladydoor> lastnode: ah. in that case, dftt i guess
[03:49] <lastnode> aNdre, #ubuntu-pt
[03:49] <_tom_> and you are currently on the router, i think? :)
[03:49] <quadriko> why are there not ops in this channel?
[03:49] <EricBlair> ubuntu-pt has eleven people in it. - oops
[03:49] <quadriko> or bots?
[03:49] <lastnode> quadriko, there are ops, we just need to call them if we need them.
[03:49] <flavio> my sound boxes are USB. what can i do to make the boxes play?
[03:49] <grouchytim> i can switch between them with the kvm
[03:49] <lastnode> quadriko, about your packages, what do you want to install, specifically?
[03:49] <grouchytim> what one do you want me on?
[03:49] <raul> lastnode: and  X runs but initied slow
[03:49] <carlos> Can anyonde help me? I`m trying to compile a simple C Program with gcc... but it can`t find C libraries like stdio.h..  what should I do?
[03:49] <UdontKnow> aNdre: aqui nao eh canal de brasileiro. va ao #ubuntu-br
[03:49] <UdontKnow> aNdre: ultimo aviso
[03:50] <zack_> I had found a xorg/conf file that was backed up the other day and it had nothing about wacom in it so i replaced xorg with that one. i still recieved a error when trying to run x from a non root account. here is the error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24167
[03:50] <lastnode> carlos, apt-get install build-essential first?
[03:50] <terlmann> not exactily.
[03:50] <terlmann> same method.diff data
[03:50] <terlmann> if it is properly ,and expertly set up..... yes. but only by ubergeeks.
[03:50] <raul> carlos : sudo apt-get install stdio
[03:50] <degree> I was serious about my KB question
[03:50] <lastnode> raul, sorry, that was the one. :-) does build essential install that though?
[03:50] <quadriko> i'm looking for a linux distro to be my main os, as i am trying to wean myself from windows, and someone pointed me to ubuntu.
[03:50] <_tom_> ah, ok. so have you configured internet sharing on the mandrake machine via,uh, whats it called? drakconf?
[03:50] <aNdre> UdontKnow
[03:50] <aNdre> ok
[03:50] <aNdre> :D
[03:51] <lastnode> quadriko, ubuntu is a great option. im a gentoo/ubuntu user and use ubuntu as my main, simply because it "works".
[03:51] <quadriko> i'm just wanting to know about its compatiblity with existing linux apps before the switch
[03:51] <raul> lastnode: yeah sorry, but anyway apt search string and show the packages who contain it
[03:51] <zack_> I had found a xorg.conf file that was backed up the other day and it had nothing about wacom in it so i replaced xorg with that one. i still recieved a error when trying to run x from a non root account. here is the error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24167
[03:51] <grouchytim> yeah that machine hasn't been rebooted in almost a year
[03:51] <terlmann> no compatibility
[03:51] <terlmann> none
[03:51] <carlos> raul: thanks. =)
[03:51] <lastnode> quadriko, i like gentoo, and its speed and customizability, but for a quick fix, ubuntu all the way
[03:51] <grouchytim> there are over a dozen various machines going thru that router
[03:51] <quadriko> will vmware run within ubuntu?
[03:52] <grouchytim> it works like a champ
[03:52] <smacky_wolf> quadriko, yessir. It runs happily.
[03:52] <quadriko> cool
[03:52] <_tom_> hhm....
[03:52] <Max_-> ubuntu + windows XP on a laptop with software RAID1.. is this possible?????
[03:52] <grouchytim> and i am using the same ip for this machine in both linux and winblows
[03:52] <_tom_> and you have static ips?
[03:52] <_tom_> ok, ok :)
[03:52] <grouchytim> yes sir
[03:52] <_tom_> kinda like i do ;)
[03:53] <grouchytim> last time i checked your system
[03:53] <grouchytim> lol
[03:53] <EricBlair> !tell Max_ about raid
[03:53] <grouchytim> yeah prolly just like yours
[03:53] <grouchytim> only not with the 192.168.x.x
[03:53] <_tom_> yeah, i have 192.168.0.8 ;)
[03:53] <grouchytim> most do
[03:53] <_tom_> and my router has .0.4
[03:53] <Hor|zon> hmmm mythtv is pissing me off...time for a switch to mce? hmmm
[03:54] <grouchytim> i went unconventional with the ever popular 10.10.10.x
[03:54] <Hor|zon> anyoen know any other pvr-type software?
[03:54] <terlmann> unless you set up advanced tools to handle the stuff :)
[03:54] <terlmann> and that is expert stuff -to experts.
[03:54] <terlmann> so dont plan on it.
[03:54] <trakz> Hor|zon: why not hack a Tivo>
[03:54] <trakz> s/>/?/
[03:54] <_tom_> so everything is set up like before, but the settings won` t save?
[03:54] <Gibbonz> using 10.4.x here. splitting up networks on subnets helps organise things ;p
[03:55] <james296> is it possible to rename the root username?
[03:55] <Hor|zon> because I don't want a TiVo and I already have a system for media stuff
[03:55] <Hor|zon> >.>
[03:55] <grouchytim> oh i just checked the network-admin again and the dns intries are gone again
[03:55] <grouchytim> yep
[03:55] <_tom_> thats strange
[03:55] <grouchytim> true
[03:55] <james296> just so I can ALWAYS have root permissions and not have to always type in a password
[03:55] <_tom_> you could try to do it manually ;)
[03:55] <terlmann> james- no
[03:55] <james296> what do you mean no?
[03:56] <james296> its not possible??
[03:56] <_tom_> but i`m kinda bad at this... grouchytim
[03:56] <grouchytim> can't make it any worse if it ain't workin can you?
[03:56] <_tom_> ifconfig, and so on... ;)
[03:56] <Cornelius> i cannot answer this guestion:  What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?   [/usr/src/linux/include] .......... anybody an idea
[03:56] <grouchytim> as root right
[03:57] <james296> yes
[03:57] <_tom_> yeah, but im not sure if you can set your dns there
[03:57] <tchung> I am having problem installing flash player
[03:57] <Hor|zon> Cornelius, there should be a default option for that...just make sure the header package is actually installed
[03:57] <tchung> after the installation, mozilla still asks for plug-in
[03:58] <tchung> can anyone help pls
[03:58] <Cornelius> i installed header-686
[03:58] <grouchytim> well you type and i'll mimic
[03:58] <Hor|zon> wait...there's no such directory as /usr/src/linux/include
[03:58] <Hor|zon> hmm
[03:58] <Cornelius> exactly
[03:58] <Hor|zon> one sec
[03:59] <starscalling> Cornelius,
[03:59] <starscalling> its different in dapper
[03:59] <Cornelius> i am tring to install vmware workstation
[03:59] <grouchytim> just keep in mind that this is a laptop and i have to go to the desktop to type it's not just highlight and middle button
[03:59] <Cornelius> yes
[03:59] <starscalling> lemme find it
[03:59] <Cornelius> i have dapper
[03:59] <starscalling> just restart the install after you install em
[03:59] <starscalling> yeah
[03:59] <starscalling> me too
[03:59] <Cornelius> ok thx
[03:59] <starscalling> in fact
[03:59] <starscalling> why dont i just install my vmware
[03:59] <Hor|zon> check in synaptic?
[03:59] <starscalling> its been waiting for me neh?
[03:59] <Cornelius> the headers
[03:59] <ludedeeds> tchung: are you making sure to install it in the right place? also.. you need to run the installer from the adobe site with sudo, as running as root will try to install it into root's userspace, which is much different than normal user's
[03:59] <Cornelius> for ?
[03:59] <Hor|zon> just right click the headers package and look at installed files
[03:59] <Hor|zon> >.>
[03:59] <_tom_> im afraid im no big help at this grouchytim :(
[03:59] <starscalling> 1st thing we do is get the correct packages in
[03:59] <Cornelius> oh ok
[03:59] <starscalling> there is an awesome thread about this in the forums
[04:00] <starscalling> lemme find it for u Cornelius
[04:00] <starscalling> might wanna bookmark it also
[04:00] <Cornelius> ok
[04:00] <grouchytim> ahhh but you're trying
[04:00] <starscalling> one sec ^^;;
[04:00] <tchung> ludedeeds: I followed the instructions from Ubuntu restricted formal page
[04:00] <starscalling> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209&highlight=howto+vmware
[04:00] <grouchytim> you even have that kewl _ by your name
[04:00] <starscalling> tchung, there is a problem with the package atm
[04:00] <starscalling> what i did was manually install it
[04:00] <_tom_> lol
[04:01] <grouchytim> you guys know everything
[04:01] <Cornelius> i thanx alot!!
[04:01] <_tom_> that _ is because tom was rejected :)
[04:01] <grouchytim> yer like a walkin' man page
[04:01] <grouchytim> lol
[04:01] <nandemonai> I'm setting up a ubuntu server as a router firewall etc among other things.. I've got the basics down I'm just curious if anyone has suggestions on a firewall/bandwidth shaping package.. I'd rather not hav to do it all via ipchains directly.. firestarter looks good but doesn't seem to have the shaping functionality I'm after. Any suggestions?
[04:01] <starscalling> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` build-essential xinetd  <-- @ Cornelius
[04:01] <tchung> starscalling, I tried manually install it and it still doesn't work
[04:01] <starscalling> sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 <- @ Cornelius
[04:01] <starscalling> tchung,
[04:01] <starscalling> gimme 3 minutes and i will help u kk?
[04:01] <tchung> sure
[04:02] <ludedeeds> tchung, simply go to the adobe site, click the icon to get the flash player, untar it where you wish, and run the installer in the terminal as sudo ./flash-installer
[04:02] <starscalling> and i guarentee it works when we done
[04:02] <starscalling> :D
[04:02] <pdlnhrd> i just applied some updates and restarted my computer and now my sound doesn't have nearly as much output it had before the reboot... does anyone have any ideas how i can reset this?
[04:02] <starscalling> yes
[04:02] <Cornelius> was that 4 me starscalling
[04:02] <starscalling> do what ludedeeds said
[04:02] <starscalling> and install to /usr/lib/mozilla and /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox
[04:02] <ludedeeds> from there, it's all return keys, as it should(if you are running the sudo from your current username) detect all of the configurations by itself
[04:02] <starscalling> Cornelius, the sudo apt-get install stuff was for u yes
[04:03] <Cornelius> ok :D
[04:03] <_tom_> ok, so... try for your dns to do something like this: edit your /etc/resolv.conf with nameserver 192.168.0.4 (in your case 10.10.10.** ;) grouchytim
[04:03] <starscalling> ok Cornelius i installed those packages
[04:03] <tchung> ludedeeds, I did all that.
[04:03] <Xenguy> nandemonai: yes, you want a script unless your very hardcore; I use shorewall, but there are various firewalls to choose from
[04:03] <Cornelius> did too
[04:03] <grouchytim> ok wait one
[04:03] <ludedeeds> did you make sure to close all browsers before installing?
[04:03] <grouchytim> gotta get my vi cheatsheet
[04:04] <Flannel> grouchytim: just use nano ;)
[04:04] <starscalling> Cornelius,
[04:04] <snarfer> NANO!
[04:04] <starscalling> did you actually install any packages?
[04:04] <starscalling> if so
[04:04] <grouchytim> <---retarded
[04:04] <grouchytim> where is it?
[04:04] <Cornelius> is there a differents between srver and wotkstation
[04:04] <starscalling> stop the vmware install
[04:04] <starscalling> and restart it
[04:04] <starscalling> yes
[04:04] <Cornelius> other than it being server
[04:04] <starscalling> get the server
[04:04] <starscalling> it holds the machine
[04:04] <Xenguy> grouchytim: buck the trend, and learn vi(m) :-)
[04:04] <Cornelius> ok
[04:04] <grouchytim> ok round it
[04:04] <nandemonai> Xenguy, Ahh I've heard good things about Shorewall.. It will handle shaping and such as well? Basically I've got a few machines doing differant tasks around the home and I'd like each to be able to do it's thing without causing lag for the others.. IE some are gaming machines, one a server few web workstations etc..
[04:04] <starscalling> the workstation can only access a server-run machine
[04:04] <starscalling> neh?
[04:04] <grouchytim> lol
[04:04] <ludedeeds> tchung: did you make sure to close all browsers before installing?
[04:04] <starscalling> so say u have one computer on your network that just runs these machines
[04:04] <grouchytim> thanx xenguy
[04:05] <starscalling> you could access them over the network and stuff
[04:05] <Cornelius> i just have one
[04:05] <starscalling> which is an interesting concept but not what i personally use
[04:05] <Cornelius> dont need extra
[04:05] <starscalling> i want my vmware to run on my local machine
[04:05] <starscalling> anyway
[04:05] <starscalling> whichever machine is actually running the vmware installs
[04:05] <starscalling> thats where the server goes
[04:05] <_tom_> but your card is configured in the netword-admin thingy? grouchytim
[04:06] <Cornelius> then i got to get the sever
[04:06] <_tom_> or is there nothing at all? I mean, you can ping the router, right? :)
[04:06] <starscalling> yes
[04:06] <starscalling> get the server
[04:06] <starscalling> i even have a few keys for it ^^;;
[04:06] <factotum> got a question, what do i need to apt-get to just get a core x session running with fluxbox instead of installing all big ol ubuntu desktop metapackage?
[04:06] <Cornelius> ok
[04:06] <grouchytim> yes i can ping the router
[04:06] <starscalling> now
[04:06] <Xenguy> nandemonai: well shorewall is a tested CLI firewall; for bandwidth shaping there are different alternatives, but I have no direct experience.  shorewall documentation is good tho, so check there first to see about the bandwidth stuff, and if it's a no go, then look for a bandwidth utility I expect
[04:06] <tchung> ludedeeds: Oh... I found out that I was installing it into Mozilla lib
[04:06] <starscalling> when doing the installer you can just push enter till here:
[04:06] <tchung> rather than Firefox one.. :P
[04:06] <grouchytim> and resolv.conf has the nameservers in it already
[04:07] <_tom_> hhm
[04:07] <grouchytim> just that network-admin has nothing
[04:07] <nandemonai> Xenguy, Will do, thanks for the heads up.
[04:07] <tchung> ludedeeds: Thanks.. :-)
[04:07] <Xenguy> grouchytim: if you want a cheatsheet, I think I know one
[04:07] <grouchytim> <---puzzled
[04:07] <Xenguy> nandemonai: aye, yw
[04:07] <juztin> how do i make it so a second hard drive automatically mounts as /storage?
[04:07] <grouchytim> i have one already xenguy
[04:07] <Cornelius> 6 more minutes
[04:07] <starscalling> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[04:07] <starscalling> kernel? [/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/build/include] 
[04:07] <starscalling> see that Cornelius ?
[04:07] <Xenguy> grouchytim: righto
[04:07] <grouchytim> downloaded one couple years ago
[04:07] <Cornelius> yupe
[04:07] <starscalling> it finds em when they are in correctly ^^;;
[04:07] <starscalling> anyway can still push enter past that also
[04:07] <grouchytim> just too stubborn to actually learn it
[04:07] <Cornelius> ok
[04:08] <starscalling> and im gonna use pastebin to paste my terminal output for u ok?
[04:08] <Cornelius> ok :)
[04:08] <starscalling> ;)
[04:08] <starscalling> vmware is really nice :D
[04:08] <starscalling> i really should actually paste this to that thread lolol
[04:09] <Cornelius> :D
[04:09] <Homer> I want vmware
[04:09] <juztin> question : how do i make it so a second hard drive (hdb1) automatically mounts as /storage when i startup?
[04:09] <starscalling> Homer,
[04:09] <Cornelius> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209&highlight=howto+vmware
[04:09] <grouchytim> how do you get out of nano anyway?
[04:09] <starscalling> then go to the above link
[04:09] <starscalling> yeah
[04:09] <grouchytim> lol
[04:09] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know why my Orinoco Gold cannot connect to an encrypted network?  Are there updated drivers for the 8470-FC?
[04:09] <Xenguy> juztin: edit /etc/fstab (backup first)
[04:09] <starscalling> it works REALLY good
[04:09] <starscalling> for the few things you might need windows for
[04:09] <juztin> xenguy, thanks :)
[04:09] <Xenguy> grouchytim: ^-x  ?
[04:09] <starscalling> unless its a couple games
[04:09] <Homer> will it let me run winblows games
[04:09] <starscalling> ok now Cornelius
[04:09] <Flannel> grouchytim: ^X is exit, ^O is write (save)
[04:09] <grouchytim> thanx i hope
[04:09] <starscalling> Homer, it will lag a bit
[04:09] <Xenguy> juztin: yw
[04:09] <starscalling> b/c its an emulation
[04:10] <starscalling> but give it a shot why not
[04:10] <starscalling> :D
[04:10] <Cornelius> 1 moment plz
[04:10] <nandemonai> juztin, Easy way would be to make the mount dir, mount the drive.. cat /etc/mtab and copy the line refering to said drive into /etc/fstab
[04:10] <starscalling> In which directory do you want to keep your virtual machine files?
[04:10] <starscalling> [/var/lib/vmware/Virtual Machines] 
[04:10] <Homer> ok cool
[04:10] <starscalling> Cornelius,
[04:10] <starscalling> at that point
[04:10] <Homer> that's really all I need windows for
[04:10] <starscalling> type in:
[04:10] <Cornelius> 50%
[04:10] <ludedeeds> tchung: np, if you use firefox, it would be properly installed into .Mozilla most likely though
[04:10] <juztin> nandemonai, cool, thanks for the tip :)
[04:10] <SpudDogg> Has anyone ever had problems with wireless cards not connecting to encrypted networks?
[04:10] <nandemonai> No sweat.
[04:10] <ludedeeds> since it's .Mozilla/firefox
[04:10] <starscalling> /home/yourusername/vmware/Virtual Machines
[04:10] <grouchytim> oh well i'll prolly have a dead file waiting next time
[04:10] <starscalling> put it in your home directory
[04:10] <starscalling> ^^;;
[04:10] <starscalling> kk??
[04:11] <Cornelius> k
[04:11] <_tom_> mmh, you could try to set everything in the network-admin again, and restart x, or do a ifdown eth0, and ifup eth0, or reboot ubuntu, or... aaw, im no big help ;) grouchytim
[04:11] <Cornelius> 64%
[04:11] <grouchytim> i did that reboot part
[04:11] <grouchytim> no joy
[04:11] <starscalling> thats a key for u
[04:11] <SpudDogg> Has anyone ever had problems with wireless cards not connecting to encrypted networks?
[04:11] <starscalling> no expiration either ^^;;
[04:12] <Cornelius> KooL!!
[04:12] <Homer> I would rather get WINE working with AMD64
[04:12] <briguyd> SpudDogg, wep or wpa?
[04:12] <poningru_> !resolution
[04:12] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:12] <Homer> :|
[04:12] <Homer> !wine
[04:12] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:12] <SpudDogg> briguyd, WEP, 64bit
[04:12] <Cornelius> 82%
[04:12] <briguyd> hmm, i've had no problem with 128 bit wep
[04:12] <briguyd> soorry
[04:13] <Cornelius> 91%
[04:14] <_tom_> have you treid to ping a site? maybe it works already :) grouchytim
[04:14] <Cornelius> should mkdir /home/rasputin/vmware/Virtual Machines
[04:15] <Cornelius> and then copy to
[04:15] <grouchytim> nope no joy
[04:15] <grouchytim> ping router is good
[04:15] <grouchytim> past that is not
[04:15] <Cornelius> ok done
[04:15] <grouchytim> maybe i need to work on the mandrake part but i can't see why since i am going thru it just fine with this computer
[04:15] <omar> hello everybody, I got a problem with my frostwire, it just doesn't open, I don't know why it was ok, but know desn't wanna run, what can I do, I even remove it , and install again and nothing happened
[04:16] <starscalling> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1524738#post1524738
[04:16] <starscalling> Cornelius,
[04:16] <starscalling> see?
[04:16] <starscalling> thats my whole install just now
[04:16] <starscalling> :P
[04:16] <starscalling> omar,
[04:16] <Cornelius> yup
[04:16] <starscalling> frostwire kinda sux
[04:16] <starscalling> but you need good java in honestly
[04:16] <juztin> !mysql
[04:16] <ubotu> offically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)
[04:16] <omar> starscallyes
[04:16] <starscalling> install the sun java which u can find out about from
[04:17] <starscalling> !java
[04:17] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:17] <omar> starscalling: es
[04:17] <_tom_> well, you are using the mandrake machine as gateway, soo, is the ip of your mandrake machine in /etc/resolv.conf? Maybe you should put there some dns servers of ypur provider grouchytim
[04:17] <starscalling> follow the steps for that or check restricted formats page
[04:17] <starscalling> Cornelius, holler if u need more help ok?
[04:17] <AbortD> !c
[04:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:17] <omar> starscalling: like apt-get install java
[04:18] <grouchytim> the dns servers i inserted are the providers
[04:18] <Cornelius> ok , then
[04:18] <bpfick> how do I change to "root"?
[04:18] <Cornelius> :D
[04:18] <grouchytim> i use 68.4.16.30 and 68.6.16.30
[04:18] <tritium> !rootsudo > bpfick
[04:18] <chopchop_> hi, i try to stream video over the network using vlc but got no sound output. any help??
[04:18] <grouchytim> they are on every machine in the house
[04:18] <starscalling> omar, no
[04:18] <starscalling> !restricted formats
[04:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:18] <starscalling> go there omar
[04:18] <omar> ok
[04:18] <starscalling> click on java
[04:18] <starscalling> takes you to java page
[04:18] <starscalling> will guide u to install it
[04:19] <grouchytim> i think my 13 year old has them memorized by now with all the windows installs he does
[04:19] <Tokenbad> omar nick....thats seems familier
[04:19] <omar> starscalling: ok I will , I will be back thanks
[04:19] <starscalling> omar, u should accept that
[04:20] <chopchop_> any idea on the vlc thing ????
[04:20] <starscalling> chopchop_, eh?
[04:20] <andaraone> where should i go to talk about wireless internet on this
[04:20] <starscalling> ok now i promissed someone hlep on flash
[04:20] <andaraone> sorry for the interuption
[04:20] <_tom_> sorry, gotta go... hope youll solve this problem grouchytim
[04:20] <chopchop_> starscalling: hi, i try to stream video over the network using vlc but got no sound output. any help??
[04:20] <zack_> I finally can startx from my normal user account. but there is no graphical login and whenever i try to open synaptic i get this error: "Could not launch menu item
[04:20] <zack_> Details: Failed to execute child process "gksu" (No such file or directory)"
[04:20] <starscalling> tchung,
[04:20] <starscalling> u there?
[04:20] <starscalling> oh i see chopchop_
[04:20] <grouchytim> lol well thanx for helping
[04:20] <starscalling> mm
[04:20] <tritium> !wireless > andaraone
[04:20] <grouchytim> have a good one
[04:21] <andaraone> yeah i cannot get it to work
[04:21] <_tom_> i dont have any more ideas, maybe you could try setting yout mandrake machines ip in the ubuntu client as dns server...
[04:21] <starscalling> no clues sorry
[04:21] <starscalling> never tried that
[04:21] <starscalling> but i can look?
[04:21] <_tom_> k, bye :)
[04:21] <hou5ton> anyone know of a linux app that will capture streaming video and save it as a static file?
[04:22] <grouchytim> ok i'll try that
[04:22] <andaraone> i went through what i thought were the right steps and activated it but it just never connected
[04:22] <andaraone> then google never really helped
[04:22] <zack_> I finally can startx from my normal user account. but there is no graphical login and whenever i try to open synaptic i get this error: "Could not launch menu item
[04:22] <zack_> Details: Failed to execute child process "gksu" (No such file or directory)" how do i solve this?
[04:22] <bretzel> Hi there, Is there a way to re-install GRUB - I erased my MBR with what I don't wanna tell :-) ( Window Vista RC1 installation )
[04:22] <yacine> Hello! I am trying to set up dual display... It is not working!!!:'(
[04:22] <bretzel> !GRUB
[04:22] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:23] <Samuli^> zack_, use gksudo instead
[04:23] <zack_> samuli^, how?
[04:23] <andaraone> does neone in here use a wireless connection
[04:23] <omar> starscalling: sorry I am back, accept what?
[04:23] <yacine> Is there anybody who knows about dual display? Help!
[04:24] <starscalling> that omar
[04:24] <linuxactivist> Can anybody tell me the tool that Ubuntu uses to scan for hardware?  Say I added a new sound card to Dapper.  How do I get Dapper to recognize the new card?
[04:24] <Samuli^> zack_, actually it sounds like you're missing quite a lot of packages. Make sure you have everything first by running sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:24] <Cornelius> starscalling   now i am at the point where it asks me for :   Do you want networking for your virtual machines? (yes/no/help) [yes] 
[04:25] <Keddie> help, I can't update ubuntu anymore. The update icon shows up, but when I click on install updates it just checks for updates again but doesn't install them. I tried to run synaptic, but it won't even start up. I did an apt-get update and then upgrade and even install, but it doesn't work.
[04:25] <starscalling> look at my post there Cornelius
[04:25] <EricBlair> !alsa
[04:25] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[04:25] <starscalling> i said yes
[04:25] <surface> Cornelius:  yes
[04:25] <starscalling> yes yes yes all the way down to the folder that they are stored in
[04:25] <sethk> Keddie, when you run apt-get at the command line, do you get an error?
[04:25] <starscalling> /home/cornelius/vmware/Virtual Machines/
[04:25] <starscalling> or so
[04:25] <Cornelius> got it
[04:25] <starscalling> tchung, did you get flash fixed??
[04:26] <starscalling> sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree
[04:26] <starscalling> ok no limewire pro for omar
[04:26] <starscalling> lol
[04:26] <zack_> samuli^, thanks i dont know how exactly i lost them...
[04:26] <Keddie> sethk, just one about flash plugin
[04:27] <linuxactivist> thanks ubotu.  That's just an example.  If I add some other card, is there a way to force ubuntu to rediscover devices?
[04:27] <Samuli^> zack_, when you're done installing them make sure you have gdm running by sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:27] <zoidberg> hey guys i have a question
[04:28] <Keddie> sethk, and the a Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:28] <EricBlair> 42 Gigabytes of  lossless *wma files. H-E-L-P!   - Is there any hope or will i spend another 4 days encoding CDs?
[04:28] <Samuli^> I can't update flashplugin-nonfree either
[04:28] <linuxactivist> Ubotu... that was really good information.  I will use it the next time I get a sound question on launchpad's support site.
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about that was really good information.  I will use it the next time I get a sound question on launchpad's support site. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <starscalling> Cornelius, get it done?
[04:28] <zoidberg> i have a pretty decent pc in my opinion not the best....it has 256 MB RAM 1GHZ pentium 3 processor...i was wondering if i could run XGL on it?
[04:28] <Cornelius> ok, now i am at the key part
[04:28] <Cornelius> yup
[04:28] <starscalling> ok
[04:28] <starscalling> read up
[04:28] <starscalling> i noticed u a key
[04:28] <starscalling> though they are free from them
[04:28] <starscalling> sometimes their server thing is weird
[04:28] <starscalling> lol
[04:28] <starscalling> ive got like 5 keys i keep ~_^
[04:29] <linuxactivist> ha... didn't realize that ubotu was a bot... Duh!
[04:29] <Samuli^> zoidberg, depends a lot on your graphics card.
[04:29] <zoidberg> well its the onboard intel graphics card
[04:29] <Cornelius> nice.!!
[04:29] <bmcfarli> hey guys i need to connect to a diffrent computer in shell...what command is that?
[04:29] <zoidberg> Samuli^: do u think i can run it....prehaps not all of its nifty things but some?
[04:29] <linuxactivist> bmcfarli: ssh works
[04:29] <Josti_> bmcfarli: ssh?
[04:29] <omar> starscalling: sorry guys, I am not understanding, i am installing th line of the page, look I dont undestand well, i speak spanish :), is there a problem? if that sorry really
[04:29] <linuxactivist> bmcfarli: depends on what you mean by connect from the shell, I guess
[04:30] <Samuli^> zoidberg, at least newer intel integrateds are ok.
[04:30] <starscalling> mm
[04:30] <starscalling> no habla
[04:30] <starscalling> :/
[04:30] <oim> i have an ati 9200 i run xgl
[04:30] <starscalling> let me walk u through it omar
[04:30] <zoidberg> Samuli^: so is mine considered newer? its on a P3 1GHZ
[04:30] <omar> starscalling: please amigo
[04:30] <bmcfarli> ssh?
[04:30] <starscalling> omar
[04:30] <EricBlair> zoidberg - If XGL doesn't work out like you want there is a somewhat less flashy and resource demanding alternative. "xmpmgr" drop shadows and basic translucency
[04:30] <starscalling> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[04:30] <starscalling> go there
[04:30] <linuxactivist> bmcfarli: ssh <username on computer>@<computer's address>
[04:31] <Cornelius> thanks alot, i`ll bookmark it too,
[04:31] <starscalling>   sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[04:31] <_tcc> Does Ubuntu have a package for CDE?
[04:31] <Samuli^> zoidberg, my cpu-time usage with xgl and compiz is somewhere around 0,2% and compiz takes 7,7MB of ram.. I don't think your ram or processor is what to worry about.
[04:31] <starscalling> omar, say yes to liscense
[04:31] <_tcc> I want the Common desktop environment, it's all bulky and gray looking.
[04:31] <starscalling> [it installs the java] 
[04:31] <fmasi> hi i like some help whith mdadm since wen i try to create a raid it tels me that the devices are in busy how to stop them?
[04:31] <EricBlair> xcmpmgr - sry
[04:31] <zoidberg> guys i knwo this sounds stupid but you think someone will be able to walk me through installing XGL ?
[04:31] <omar> starscalling: yes I did that, and I read that I can find the java in my add/remove option
[04:31] <starscalling> omar, when you are done of the installing
[04:31] <starscalling>   sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:31] <starscalling> do that
[04:31] <surface> bmcfarli:  www.linuxbyexample.co.nr check for ssh
[04:31] <Flannel> zoidberg: #ubuntu-xgl
[04:31] <linuxactivist> bmcfarli: So if I were connecting to the ubuntu webserver (and I had an account on it, or knew of an account), I would type:  ssh linuxactivist@www.ubuntu.com
[04:31] <omar> starscalling: and i am installing
[04:31] <starscalling> and select the one for sun
[04:31] <starscalling> ok omar
[04:31] <pyrokenx> Hey all, mldonkey-server broke my apt... its not the first time but I cant remember how to fix it now
[04:31] <chopchop_> hi, could anybody help me out with streaming video??
[04:31] <linuxactivist> bmcfarli: make sense?
[04:32] <Code-E> !ati
[04:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:32] <starscalling> let me know when its done installing
[04:32] <starscalling> Cornelius, lol
[04:32] <EricBlair> 42 Gigabytes of  lossless *wma files. H-E-L-P!   - Is there any hope or will i spend another 4 days encoding CDs?
[04:32] <omar> starscalling: thanks
[04:32] <starscalling> just pass on the goodness when someone else asks ~_^
[04:32] <starscalling> no problem omar
[04:32] <Cornelius> there is a package in synaptic for the vmplayer, can i install that one too?
[04:32] <Flannel> EricBlair: hope for what?
[04:32] <Tokenbad> omar you hang on another server?
[04:32] <starscalling> im not a dick like some ops here :/
[04:32] <bmcfarli> yes sir
[04:32] <bmcfarli> i was trying sudo ssh
[04:32] <bmcfarli> wasnt a good idea
[04:32] <omar> starscalling: I am always do that , specially here in Peru you are a few people, but fighters
[04:32] <EricBlair> I would love to use totem or rhythmbox. - is that possible?
[04:33] <starscalling> *     3        /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java    <<<----
[04:33] <omar> tokenbad: no really
[04:33] <Flannel> EricBlair: you mean the play the wma?
[04:33] <starscalling> thats the one i have chekced
[04:33] <EricBlair> Flannel - yes.
[04:33] <linuxactivist> bmcfarli: ssh stands for secure shell.  Once you are connected, you will interact with the other server (via the command line) as if you were opening the shell locally.  And it is encrypted, so you won't be passing any information such as passwords and such in the clear (and easily snarfable by a network sniffing program).
[04:33] <Tokenbad> oh...know someone by that nick on another server
[04:33] <Tokenbad> heheh
[04:33] <Samuli^> zoidberg, xgl takes ~100MB of ram and uses up 20% of cpu-time when spinning the cube.. hmm.
[04:33] <pyrokenx> anyone can help me fix my broken apt? ;p
[04:33] <omar> tokenbad: not me buddy
[04:33] <_tcc> Anyone? CDE?
[04:33] <Flannel> !tell EricBlair about wma
[04:33] <_tcc> I am guessing no one uses CDE.
[04:33] <Milchmann> pyrokenx, what is broken?
[04:34] <pyrokenx> tried to install mldonkey-server
[04:34] <starscalling> tchung, meh i am guessing you got your problem fixed since your not replying
[04:34] <starscalling> pyrokenx, lol
[04:34] <linuxactivist> CDE is awful.  bleh.  I admin solaris every day.  Yucky interface.
[04:34] <pyrokenx> yeah
[04:34] <zoidberg> Samuli^: i thought you said that it is like 2% and ram is not a worry?
[04:34] <starscalling> sudo apt-get -f install
[04:34] <pyrokenx> I tried that star
[04:34] <starscalling> ok
[04:34] <starscalling> sudo apt-get --purge remove ml-server
[04:34] <linuxactivist> It works, that's about all I can say for CDE
[04:34] <EricBlair> Flannel - Thank You. - (psst. Can i just hang around and watch you answer questions, seem to be learning something.)
[04:34] <pyrokenx> I treid that too :D
[04:34] <starscalling> or what is the package that is getting hung up on
[04:34] <starscalling> !paste
[04:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:34] <pyrokenx> I need it manually removed
[04:35] <starscalling> paste the output there
[04:35] <Xenguy> _tcc: xfce
[04:35] <pyrokenx> k
[04:35] <linuxactivist> EricBlair: sure... why not.
[04:35] <Samuli^> zoidberg, well I was talking about the average usage system-monitor shows, but now I'm looking at top and it shows different
[04:35] <Xenguy> _tcc: is a similar desktop
[04:35] <Cornelius> starscalling... can i also install the vmplay from the ubuntu source
[04:35] <_tcc> linuxactivist, where can i get CDE?
[04:35] <_tcc> I love CDE.
[04:35] <starscalling> Cornelius, eh?
[04:35] <_tcc> I hate GNOME, KDE, and flashy crap.
[04:35] <starscalling> dunno
[04:35] <Cornelius> oh
[04:35] <Samuli^> could someone check how much memory X takes?
[04:35] <Cornelius> i dont need it
[04:35] <starscalling> what would u install the vmplay for ?
[04:35] <Flannel> _tcc: you'll have to get it, if they have a deb, or compile from source
[04:35] <starscalling> this is full server
[04:35] <starscalling> you can install windows on it
[04:35] <starscalling> :P
[04:35] <linuxactivist> _tcc: xfce is nice and fast.  Way stripped down without being too spartan.
[04:35] <Cornelius> i didnt realize..
[04:35] <Cornelius> :P
[04:35] <Flannel> _tcc: doesn't seem to be in the repositories
[04:36] <starscalling> this install u just did is VERY powerful
[04:36] <starscalling> ^^;;
[04:36] <Cornelius> XD
[04:36] <linuxactivist> _tcc: If you like even more stripped down, try fluxbox.
[04:36] <starscalling> or in between icewm
[04:36] <starscalling> >_>
[04:36] <_tcc> eh
[04:36] <ChaosFan> _tcc: or larswm
[04:36] <Samuli^> xfce4 is nice.
[04:36] <Flannel> or or ratpoison, or a number of others that are in the repositories
[04:36] <starscalling> wanna hear something funny??
[04:36] <nownott> ok does itunes work in linux @ all, if not what is the next best thing i have rhytmbox but it keeps restarting when importing my music folder
[04:36] <_tcc> icewm is nice
[04:37] <Samuli^> I like the file-manager thunar.
[04:37] <starscalling> my brother kept fscrewing up his windows install from browsing pr0n
[04:37] <starscalling> so i told him no virii from that in linux
[04:37] <starscalling> :P
[04:37] <starscalling> now he LOVES ubuntu
[04:37] <jbroome> hahah
[04:37] <Samuli^> if there was good way to integrate it to gnome I would definately use it instead of nautilus
[04:37] <starscalling> hehe
[04:37] <pyrokenx> pastebin isnt moving at all strangely
[04:37] <starscalling> Samuli^, integrate what to gnome?
[04:37] <surface> starscalling:  wow
[04:37] <Samuli^> starscalling, thunar
[04:38] <starscalling> you can certainly use a different file manager
[04:38] <starscalling> thunar??
[04:38] <starscalling> never used that
[04:38] <Samuli^> file-manager. It's great
[04:38] <Samuli^> in the repos :)
[04:38] <starscalling>   libexo-0.3-0 libthunar-vfs-1 libxfce4mcs-client3 libxfce4mcs-manager3
[04:38] <starscalling> ~_~
[04:38] <linuxactivist> starscalling: you can use it, but I don't think you can "integrate" it into gnome.  Is integration really possible?
[04:39] <starscalling> linuxactivist, ive used different file managers other than nautilus in gnome before
[04:39] <starscalling> been a while though
[04:39] <starscalling> id have to look it up
[04:39] <Samuli^> it's a lot like nautilus, only lighter, snappier and better.
[04:39] <starscalling> mm
[04:39] <starscalling> trying it now
[04:39] <starscalling> but it doesnt support doing backgrounds for desktop?
[04:40] <starscalling> what about desktop icons
[04:40] <linuxactivist> starscalling: true, but were the integrated... meaning that the context menus opened files in your file manager, the file open and save dialogs opened in your file manager.  If you can do this?  How?
[04:40] <Samuli^> let nautilus handle that?
[04:40] <starscalling> let me find it again
[04:40] <starscalling> ill replace nautilus with this to test
[04:40] <starscalling> :D
[04:40] <Samuli^> hehe, why do you want to do that?
[04:41] <decherdt> !mc
[04:41] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2073 kB, installed size 5952 kB
[04:41] <surface> decherdt:  haha i use mc in slax frodo
[04:42] <starscalling> ah ha
[04:42] <starscalling> i think i found it
[04:43] <spuddogg> I'm trying to build a driver, and I have to specify the KERNELPATH, does anyone know what that is?
[04:43] <surface> starscalling:  found wat?
[04:43] <starscalling> how to make thunar default
[04:43] <starscalling> and it passes on special stuff to nautilus still
[04:43] <axisys_> where is the Bluetooth file transfers utility ? it comes with Gnome? is it in dapper drake?
[04:43] <fdsd> hey guys, I am using knot3, and I want to disable gdm of startup, with upstart im not sure how, could someone tell me the terminal command?
[04:44] <surface> starscalling:  did thunar allows smb:// ?
[04:44] <fdsd> s/of/off
[04:44] <Flannel> fdsd: #ubuntu+1
[04:44] <starscalling> surface, no
[04:44] <spuddogg> I'm trying to build a driver, and I have to specify the KERNELPATH, does anyone know what that is?
[04:44] <starscalling> http://assente.altervista.org/it/use_thunar_as_default_gnome_file_manager/
[04:44] <starscalling> read that
[04:44] <markc> is there for dapper a backports repo like there is backports.org for debian sarge ?
[04:44] <starscalling> ok
[04:44] <starscalling> restarting X
[04:44] <Flannel> !tell markc about backports
[04:44] <starscalling> lol
[04:45] <surface> starscalling:  too bad, i am using nautilus because it allows smb:// can't get this done in other file-manager
[04:45] <starscalling> interesting
[04:45] <starscalling> ok i have no wallpaper or desktop icons
[04:45] <spuddogg> I'm trying to build a driver, and I have to specify the KERNELPATH, does anyone know what that is?
[04:46] <cliffd> from ubuntu server, what do I use to browse and smb share?
[04:46] <axisys_> where do ubuntu users hangout for bluetooth stuff
[04:46] <EricBlair> Flannel - There was a link to W32Codecs and it dpkg -i  worked.  How am i going to add an annoying billboard of  hiphop tunes i listen to in channel if rythmbox doesn't recognize them and play?  (You can't billboard tunes in channel? - Oh ..  - LOL)
[04:46] <surface> cliffd:  smbclient i think.
[04:46] <starscalling> seems that the hack did NOT work
[04:46] <starscalling> lol
[04:46] <cliffd> surface: thanks.
[04:46] <thomas{}bigTOM> I installed ubuntu on my desktop about a mouth ago and found an easy sudo command to add mp3 suport to the player, now I am installing unbuntu on a different a computer and can't find the command
[04:47] <thomas{}bigTOM> anyone now what the command is
[04:47] <surface> starscalling:  if u like something lightweight, consider change wm, fluxbox is a good one to try
[04:47] <starscalling> trying the python script
[04:47] <starscalling> lol surface sure
[04:47] <starscalling> im just playing around b/c its fun ^^;;
[04:47] <spuddogg> I'm trying to build a driver, and I have to specify the KERNELPATH, does anyone know what that is?
[04:47] <Flannel> !tell thomas{}bigTOM about mp3
[04:48] <starscalling> restarting X again
[04:48] <braniff> i'm trying to "# grub-install /dev/sdb1", and I get "Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device." How do i fix this ????
[04:49] <braniff> i don't have a separate /boot partitition
[04:49] <thomas{}bigTOM> Flannel what about mp3
[04:49] <Flannel> thomas{}bigTOM: read the link ubotu sent you
[04:49] <newpZ> hi i cant get the videos to play on myspace... videos from youtube work fine tho... any clues?
[04:49] <starpause> my kubuntu is dunking basketballs!
[04:50] <starscalling> ok
[04:50] <starscalling> used the second ruby script on that page
[04:50] <starscalling> now it works
[04:50] <spuddogg> I'm trying to build a driver, and I have to specify the KERNELPATH, does anyone know what that is?
[04:50] <starpause> but i wish i knew of a live cd with network support for every card/configuration possible ... some sort of hacker edition???
[04:50] <starscalling> but there are no shell right click things and no background / icons / etc
[04:50] <bretzel> !grub
[04:50] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:51] <EricBlair> Flannel - Is it a hopeless endeavor? Can you point me to another howto? The alternative is to re-encode all of my CDs over many days.  (It makes me grouchy, my wife cry and the cat hide under the couch.)
[04:51] <Flannel> EricBlair: does that not cover wma?
[04:51] <starscalling> also for a fast running system
[04:52] <starscalling> slamming um
[04:52] <starscalling> [starts with an e] 
[04:52] <starscalling> e-16/e-17
[04:52] <naut> How do most ubuntu-ians manage services?
[04:52] <EricBlair> Flannel - It did. - Still no sound from those pesky windows dlls
[04:52] <starscalling> oh enlightenment into gnome or it itself is nice
[04:53] <Flannel> EricBlair: if that didn't work... no idea.  sorry.  Someone else might know, I don't deal with sound much (read: at all).  I do know FLAC is what you'll be encoding too, should you need to reencode ;)
[04:53] <myatthu> naut, command line ... or system->admin->services
[04:53] <starscalling> sudo apt-get install enlightenment enlightenment-theme* eterm  e16keyedit e16menuedit epplets  <<-- one line installer :D
[04:53] <starscalling> 13.2MB of archives // 30.2MB of disk space lol
[04:53] <markc> dapper backports does not include courier 0.5, debian backports.org does, would it be possible to safely mix and match debian sarge backports with dapper ?
[04:54] <Flannel> markc: not in binary form, no.
[04:54] <mwilliams> Need help with grub on mixed SCSI/IDE server install i.e. install CD trys to put grub on IDE drive.
[04:54] <markc> Flannel: thanks, glad I asked first
[04:54] <EricBlair> Flannel - Thank You. - (more encoding. Aaa-gh!    The cat bolted for the sofa and my wife cringed.)
[04:54] <kjm> I was just given an old AMD 700 MhZ machine, 768 MB RAM . . . . that enough for Gnome- or should I go for IceWM or XFCE?
[04:54] <starscalling> mwilliams, you need to manually from a shell install grub where you want it
[04:54] <sonicchao> Hello
[04:54] <starscalling> kjm, gnome can run fine on it.. but i would try either xfce or enlightenment
[04:55] <Flannel> EricBlair: like I said, it may be possible to read them, I honestly have no idea.  But, FLAC is... well, Free and Lossless ;)
[04:55] <mwilliams> starscalling:  tried that from rescue bad read on stage2...
[04:55] <starscalling> flac <3
[04:55] <starscalling> mwilliams, eh?
[04:55] <starscalling> did you finish the install mwilliams ?
[04:55] <EricBlair> Flannel - FLAC is great. should of done it the right way the first time.
[04:55] <sonicchao> How do i turn off sound from the command line?
[04:55] <starscalling> excepting the grub problems of course ?
[04:55] <kjm> starscalling - cool, thanks.  Last question - It has a Geforce2 MX 400 - what are the chances of it running compiz or XGL for nice eyecandy?
[04:55] <starscalling> mm
[04:56] <starscalling> not awesome kjm lol
[04:56] <starscalling> i mean it will probably run
[04:56] <myatthu> sonicchao, the bell song ?
[04:56] <starscalling> but that stuff takes up a lot of cpu
[04:56] <Flannel> EricBlair: google seems to point to a few places.  so, it ... is possible (heck, you'd need to read them to convert to FLAC anyway, or at least in linux) so.. it should be.
[04:56] <mwilliams> starscalling: yes install is all there on SCSI partitions just can't get it to find the bootloader.
[04:56] <starscalling> braniff, just chime in ^^;;
[04:56] <sonicchao> myatthu: i need to completely mute sound
[04:56] <starscalling> ok great mwilliams
[04:56] <starscalling> then boot to the install cd
[04:56] <starscalling> and lets chroot into your install ^_^
[04:57] <kjm> For sure.   I'm excited  - new machine (well....old machine) to resurrect.  I think I can still squeeze years outta it.
[04:57] <starscalling> kjm, for sure
[04:57] <starscalling> there are alternatives for eye candy
[04:57] <myatthu> sonicchao, completely ... the only sound i know is the bell sound ... try edit->current profile->terminal bell
[04:57] <starscalling> let me show you:
[04:57] <EricBlair> Flannel - There are some howtos for xmms using decoders from mystery sites. - not worth the trouble.
[04:57] <Flannel> EricBlair: well, I googled wma ubuntu, and... stuff seems, at least, to claim to work
[04:57] <mwilliams> starscalling: all on another machine can you give me a quick run down?
[04:57] <sonicchao> myatthu: i'll have to see if my parents notice then ;)
[04:57] <sonicchao> i snuck on the comp :P
[04:58] <kjm> Enlightenment looks nice - I played with E17 a while back - and it was quite cool.  But, I haven't used it enough to be "used to it".  XFce is one of my favs though.
[04:58] <jetrii> Hello, I know this is not the right channel, but could someone who knows their fair share of HD formats please send me a private msg?
[04:58] <myatthu> lol
[04:58] <starscalling> mwilliams, ok lemme find it
[04:58] <sonicchao> i had to talk to friends...its important
[04:58] <myatthu> jetrii, HD formats ? you mean file systems ? or hardware ?
[04:58] <starscalling> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54476&highlight=enlightened+gnome  <<----
[04:58] <sonicchao> kinda
[04:58] <starscalling> check that out kjm
[04:58] <starscalling> personally i just install the repo'd enlightenment with:
[04:58] <starscalling> sudo apt-get install enlightenment enlightenment-theme* eterm  e16keyedit e16menuedit epplets
[04:58] <roostishaw> anyone, how do i fix this?   sudo: unable to lookup roostishaw-ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[04:59] <roostishaw> i cant use sudo
[04:59] <sonicchao> well see ya
[04:59] <specialbuddy> is there a vmware channel?
[04:59] <fowlduck-> hmmm, i have a package that won't install or remove, is there a way to force it either way?
[04:59] <jetrii> myatthu: HD resolutions (1080i,1080P) and so on...
[04:59] <parisi> Hellpo
[05:00] <myatthu> jetrii, i think you and me talking about different HD ... i meant harddisk ..
[05:00] <starscalling> mm
[05:00] <starscalling> actually mwilliams
[05:00] <kjm> starscalling - that looks pretty sweet.  And, really nice tutorial /"how to"....I'll have to look into that.
[05:00] <jetrii> myatthu: I believe we are :)
[05:00] <lasindi> Hi everyone, I just tried to install flashplugin-nonfree, and I got the following error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/DQUjIs61.html Is there a way to fix this?
[05:01] <wastrel> ubunto
[05:01] <fowlduck-> so, anyone?
[05:01] <Samuli^> lasindi, I think everyone has problems with flashplugin right now.
[05:01] <Jack_Sparrow> lasindi: http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/08/install-mozilla-flash-plugin-in-ubuntu.html
[05:01] <dk06> is there anything that can be done, if I won an auction on ebay, and paid through paypal, but it turned out that the seller was a scam
[05:01] <roostishaw> fowlduck-, --force mabey?
[05:01] <starscalling> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208788&highlight=scsi+grub+fix
[05:01] <parisi> Anyone here running Compiz stable?
[05:01] <starscalling> i think thats what you want there mwilliams
[05:01] <starscalling> look at the second post
[05:01] <Samuli^> parisi, yes.
[05:01] <Jack_Sparrow> jetrii: What was your HD question
[05:01] <roostishaw> anyone, how do i fix this?   sudo: unable to lookup roostishaw-ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[05:01] <roostishaw> fowlduck-, --force mabey?
[05:01] <roostishaw> i cant use sudo
[05:01] <starscalling> and the third post
[05:02] <fowlduck-> roostishaw: nope
[05:02] <starscalling> roostishaw, cant use sudo ?
[05:02] <roostishaw> fowlduck-, oops, sorry for the resend
[05:02] <Parisi> Samuli^,  Do you have a screenshot of your desktop?
[05:02] <kjm> jetrii - I've sent you 3 pm's now . . .how important was that question?
[05:02] <fowlduck-> roostishaw: np, thx
[05:02] <roostishaw> starscalling, naww :)
[05:02] <roostishaw> *:(
[05:02] <Samuli^> parisi, I believe I do. one sec.
[05:02] <starscalling> what is your main user name
[05:02] <starscalling> only first user is auto added in sudo
[05:02] <roostishaw> starscalling, me?
[05:02] <starscalling> roostishaw, yeah
[05:03] <Samuli^> parisi, http://www.freewebs.com/arpakyna/Screenshot1.jpg
[05:03] <starscalling> to change to antoher user from terminal:
[05:03] <Parisi> I am trying to acomplish a osx like look, getting there.
[05:03] <starscalling> su username
[05:03] <roostishaw> starscalling, the only two users are mine, roostishaw, and root
[05:03] <starscalling> <password for tha tuser >
[05:03] <Parisi> I am getting there*
[05:03] <mwilliams> starscalling: thanks, I'll do some reading.  Bye.
[05:03] <starscalling> root does not have a password unless you set it
[05:03] <starscalling> np mwilliams hope it helps
[05:03] <roostishaw> starscalling, i did set it
[05:03] <lasindi> Jack_Sparrow: so it isn't possible to install Flash through apt-get anymore?
[05:03] <starscalling> ok
[05:03] <starscalling> then log in as root
[05:03] <Parisi> Samuli^,  Kick ass man, what theme?
[05:03] <starscalling> su -
[05:04] <bmcfarli> hey have you guys had any problems with a program just opening and then closing? Rythembox is the program.
[05:04] <starscalling> <root pass>
[05:04] <roostishaw> starscalling, and after doing su roostishaw, then entering my pass, i get the same error when using sudo
[05:04] <bmcfarli> rhythembox
[05:04] <starscalling> walk through this with me roostishaw
[05:04] <Jack_Sparrow> lasindi: Last I heard the apt-get flash was broke.. I did the one I linked yesterday just fine
[05:04] <acersales> hi can access as root my volume control and can listen sound but not as a user
[05:04] <acersales> what can be the reason ?
[05:04] <johnnybuoy> hello! anyone know what the difference is between klogd and sysklogd? do I need both or just one?
[05:04] <roostishaw> starscalling, ok... now im logged in (the term) as root
[05:04] <starscalling> acersales, sudo adduser <username> audio
[05:04] <starscalling> ok good roostishaw
[05:04] <starscalling> visudo -f /etc/sudoers
[05:05] <acersales> starscalling, i alreaady added it
[05:05] <lasindi> Jack_Sparrow: okay thanks
[05:05] <roostishaw> starscalling, please include my username in your messages, its less confusing
[05:05] <starscalling> # User privilege specification
[05:05] <starscalling> root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[05:05] <starscalling> # Members of the admin group may gain root privileges
[05:05] <starscalling> %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[05:05] <roostishaw> :)
[05:05] <Samuli^> Parisi, gtk-theme is alphacube, I think. The wallpaper I got from gnome-look.org somewhere.
[05:05] <surface> starscalling:  is -f /etc/sudoers by default
[05:05] <Jack_Sparrow> lasindi: If you google ubuntu and the wiki a couple of the people I gave that link to posted there that it got them going.
[05:05] <voorhees> how do I make is so the pcspkr module i snever loaded ?
[05:05] <starscalling> add your user in there
[05:05] <starscalling> or add your user to admin group
[05:05] <starscalling> or as root
[05:05] <Parisi> Samuli^,  Thanks for the info.
[05:05] <starscalling> reinstall sudo
[05:06] <lasindi> Jack_Sparrow: I see. Is there any news on why the Multiverse Flash is broken?
[05:06] <roostishaw> starscalling, why the admin group?
[05:06] <roostishaw> starscalling, will it be the same as root?
[05:06] <starscalling> admin group can use sudo
[05:06] <starscalling> sudo == run as root [as user] 
[05:06] <Jack_Sparrow> lasindi: No idea, I assume it is being fixed as we speak
[05:06] <starscalling> lasindi, i just did manually lol
[05:06] <roostishaw> starscalling, so add...what? under %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL?
[05:06] <Jack_Sparrow> lasindi: Wait for the fix or try my link if you already broke it
[05:07] <kjm> Would I be better off doing a fresh install of Dapper + Updates, or installing Edgy knot 3 fresh?
[05:07] <voorhees> how do I make is so the pcspkr module is never loaded ? should I had it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist ?
[05:07] <MilesA> I need to find the AMD64 nVidia graphics drivers, in a .deb format that I can download and install. I can't use apt-get because I'm waiting on a new modem and my computer crashes too quickly in Ubuntu for me to be able to go online and into Synaptic if I could.
[05:07] <Jack_Sparrow> kjm: Since this is the Dapper channel, I would assume most will say Dapper
[05:08] <myatthu> MilesA, have you check nvidia.com ?
[05:08] <kjm> Perhaps. . ..
[05:08] <MilesA> myatthu: Yes, recently. They have RPM packages, and I need another set of utilities to install them.
[05:08] <roostishaw> starscalling, did i explain that well enough?
[05:08] <braniff> i installed from the LiveCD, and my system won't boot. grub-install says "Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device." How do i fix it ???
[05:08] <roostishaw> starscalling, what do i add i mean
[05:08] <MilesA> myatthu: I downloaded a proper-looking .deb from an archive site a little while ago, but GDebi won't load it anymore at all, and when it did it said for some reason that it couldn't install.
[05:09] <myatthu> MilesA, if its rpm try alien ... then try installing again
[05:09] <EricBlair> !grub
[05:09] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:09] <Gevaudan82> Any iptables gurus here? I'm trying to stay away from using firestarter/guarddog for my purposes as they don't support a feature that is critical to our infastructure...however, my question really only has to do with how to enable all traffic from a specific class C address namely 192.168.1.0/24? Any ideas?
[05:09] <MilesA> myatthu: Okay. In the meantime, do you know any options I can add to the GRUB boot sequence to avoid using the conflicting graphics drivers?
[05:10] <myatthu> MilesA, what has grub got to do with graphics drivers ??
[05:10] <Phlosten> can anyone shed some light on what might be the cause of a new ubuntu install that just consistantly reboots at the kernel boot bit?
[05:10] <MilesA> myatthu: When I was trying to install this from the Live CD someone here in #ubuntu gave me a set of boot options (since lost) to keep it from crashing. I'm wondering if the same sort of commands extend to Ubuntu booting from GRUB.
[05:10] <Gevaudan82> Phlosten: hard to say...try the ubuntu alternatives if the livecd is causing you problems
[05:10] <Samuli^> parisi, if you happen to find a good picture of space with stars let me know, it would be great backround for the cube.
[05:10] <myatthu> MilesA, btw are you sure nvidia.com sites gives out .rpm ??
[05:11] <Phlosten> Gevaudan82: this is from a ubuntu server install
[05:11] <MilesA> myatthu: Last time I checked, yes, but I'll look again.
[05:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Phlosten: Did you have the livecd do a self test for errors...?
[05:11] <myatthu> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_1.0-8774.html
[05:11] <myatthu> there you go
[05:11] <voorhees> how do I make is so the pcspkr module is never loaded ? should I had it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist ?
[05:11] <kjm> Phlosten - I don't have my flashlight.  But, if you had more information I may be able to locate it.
[05:11] <Jack_Sparrow> MilesA: one sec
[05:12] <Gevaudan82> Phlosten: i don't mean to suggest something you don't need but try the livecd and the alternatives if the server install isn't working for you...in my opinion no one really needs lamp...the same thing can be accomplished very easily...just type "ubuntu 6.06 perfect install" in google
[05:12] <fowlduck-> roostishaw: sudo dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq jedit
[05:12] <Jack_Sparrow> MilesA: Grub Boot Options ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off acpi = no (Solves no mouse problem) pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off quiet
[05:12] <fowlduck-> roostishaw: that ended up being it
[05:12] <nownott> can someone help me find the url for this podcast its drving me crazy
[05:12] <MilesA> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks again. I think I'll try writing it down somewhere safe this time...
[05:12] <Phlosten> Gevaudan82: yeah all good and well, but i am trying to setup an old pc as a dedicated lamp server. its an old pc which the livecd will take all day to load on
[05:12] <kjm> nownott : Which podcast - and why is this the right channel?
[05:13] <starscalling> ah
[05:13] <starscalling> roostishaw,
[05:13] <starscalling> adduser roostishaw admin
[05:13] <starscalling> that will add that user to admin
[05:13] <starscalling> easiest way
[05:13] <starscalling> or:
[05:13] <roostishaw> fowlduck-, good to hear you got it solved   :)
[05:13] <specialbuddy> does anyone know how to recover partitions when using vmware
[05:13] <specialbuddy> ?
[05:13] <starscalling> roostishaw     ALL=(ALL) ALL
[05:13] <starscalling> add that under root
[05:13] <starscalling> which explicitly adds that user
[05:13] <Gevaudan82> Phlosten: try the alternatives cd download...it's really hard to diagnose your rebooting problem...try the alternatives cd and see if you fare any better
[05:13] <MilesA> Jack_Sparrow: Can I add these all on one line, or do they have to be multiple?
[05:13] <fowlduck-> roostishaw: just in case someone asks you :)
[05:14] <nownott> b/c im in this channel and people here tend to help, but it is pti (pardon the interruption) from espn
[05:14] <Jack_Sparrow> MilesA: Just try one at a time depending on what your problem is..
[05:14] <Phlosten> i am guessing it is a kernel incompatibility problem, not sure on the best way around it though
[05:14] <roostishaw> fowlduck-, heh, thanks?  :)
[05:14] <kjm> Phlosten - incompatible with what?
[05:15] <Parisi> Salihu,  I am using the default OSX Panther wallpaper as i type this :0
[05:15] <MilesA> Jack_Sparrow: Incidentally, having had to restart and have Linux go through checking my HD every time for a few dozen times, do you think I'd be better off reinstalling anyway?
[05:15] <Phlosten> kjm: thats what i would like to know. it gets to 'boot' and then reboots
[05:15] <roostishaw> starscalling, "The user `roostishaw' is already a member of `admin'."
[05:15] <fowlduck-> roostishaw: you are forever in my debt
[05:15] <kjm> vanilla kernel?
[05:15] <Phlosten> kjm: none of the other 6.06 cd's will install on this system
[05:15] <Parisi> Salihu,  I'll let you know if i see anything.
[05:15] <smax> hi
[05:15] <roostishaw> fowlduck-, well... not quite
[05:15] <roostishaw> hi
[05:15] <roostishaw> smax
[05:16] <Jack_Sparrow> MilesA: First, self test the cd for errors, just because it boots does not mean there are no errors
[05:16] <roostishaw> how are you?
[05:16] <smax> is there a command line version of gaim?  kind of like xchat to irssi ?
[05:16] <kjm> smax - look into bitchx
[05:16] <smax> thanx
[05:16] <kjm> smax - nmind - that is an irc program.  I dont think that's what you want.
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> Hmm BitchX is an irc client..  i dont think thats what he wanted.
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> check freshmeat.net for aim clients.
[05:16] <smax> ahh
[05:17] <Jack_Sparrow> MilesA: Reading back you say a video problem...
[05:17] <roostishaw> starscalling, you get that last one?
[05:17] <smax> kjm:  ahh  but apt-cache search bitchx  has lead me to pork.  thanx pal
[05:17] <Parisi> Anyone running Compiz on a Radeon 9200 r200 chipset?
[05:17] <kjm> smax - well....often the wrong road leads to the right house. . . or something.  So, no worries.
[05:17] <MilesA> Jack_Sparrow: Yup. It'll just suddenly freeze up, can't even turn the Num Lock LED on or off. the only way out is to reboot...until it happens again.
[05:18] <Samuli^> parisi, #ubuntu-xgl
[05:18] <deshantm> anybody have any experience debugging a c++ file in anjuta?
[05:18] <Parisi> Salihu, Thanks.
[05:18] <Samuli^> np :)
[05:18] <Jack_Sparrow> MilesA: Quick question... are you running a wireless net card?
[05:18] <Jack_Sparrow> MilesA: Through a router?
[05:19] <alus> why does rsync seem to be re-copying the data if I reissue the same command?
[05:19] <Jack_Sparrow> MilesA: Can you boot the 386 kernel and does it have the same problems
[05:19] <MilesA> Jack_Sparrow: Nope. I'm stuck on dial-up; actually, currently awaiting delivery of an external modem since Linuxant likes to charge for its winmodem services.
[05:19] <MilesA> Jack_Sparrow: WinXP would randomly reboot, but it was fixed once I got the proper drivers installed.
[05:19] <Gradius9> hm, after inserting a supported wifi pci card into my ubuntu box, it boots to the desktop where I can use the cursor, nothing more availble, How can I solve this problem?
[05:19] <Jack_Sparrow> MilesA: Try these Grub Boot Options "E at the grub prompt"  vga=normal  xdrvr=vesa   xres=800x600
[05:19] <alus> the command is "rsync -vrL * foo@host:/path/to", and the files/dirs are all symlinks
[05:19] <Cornelius> good night starscalling and everybody  and thanx!!!
[05:20] <Gradius9> When I take out the wifi card, everything work as normal
[05:20] <MilesA> Jack_Sparrow: Incidentally, the CD still seems to check out.
[05:20] <MilesA> Jack_Sparrow: Slightly lucky, considering the paperboard sleeve. :D
[05:20] <Jack_Sparrow> MilesA: k thanks for checking
[05:21] <Jack_Sparrow> MilesA: Im not usually here this late, just waiting for the wife...  THought I would hang for a couple minutes
[05:21] <Gradius9> any tips for detecting the where the problem is?
[05:21] <MilesA> Jack_Sparrow: Rebooting now, should see in a moment.
[05:21] <spuddogg_> This is really frustrating.  I cannot connect to my network as long as I have WEP enabled in router settings.  As soon as I turn of WEP, I can connect perfectly.  I am positive I'm using the right key.  Any ideas anyone?
[05:22] <deshantm> !anjuta
[05:22] <ubotu> anjuta: A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4a-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 866 kB, installed size 2072 kB
[05:22] <MilesA> Jack_Sparrow: Where should the commands be in the GRUB sequence list?
[05:22] <Jack_Sparrow> at the end is fine but before the squiggly at the end if there is one
[05:23] <sethk> Gradius9, it sounds like a pci bus sync issue
[05:23] <MilesA> Jack_Sparrow: Before "boot"?
[05:23] <Jack_Sparrow> MilesA: Squiggly IS the technical term....:)
[05:23] <spuddogg_> This is really frustrating.  I cannot connect to my network as long as I have WEP enabled in router settings.  As soon as I turn of WEP, I can connect perfectly.  I am positive I'm using the right key.  Any ideas anyone?
[05:23] <harrison> what is the text file that stores my session information?  i would like to edit it by hand instead of using the gui
[05:23] <sethk> Gradius9, anything written to the logs?  Probably not, but check anyway.
[05:23] <MilesA> Jack_Sparrow: Ah, but of course.
[05:23] <Jack_Sparrow> no at the end
[05:23] <Gradius9> sethk, ok... anything in the bios that can solve this maybe?
[05:24] <Gradius9> sethk, any specific log?
[05:24] <dacc> can anyone help me diagnose a gstreamer issue?
[05:24] <dacc> i've tried everything to get m4a playing in rhythmbox
[05:24] <sethk> Gradius9, do ls -ltr in /var/log, see which log was last updated
[05:24] <sethk> Gradius9, doesn't really sound like a bios issue.
[05:24] <MilesA> Jack_Sparrow: It balked, said "Error 27: Unrecognized Command."
[05:24] <dacc> .. but i keep getting "mime type could not be identified"
[05:24] <Jack_Sparrow> MilesA: I am toast... sethk is very tallented and I would trust his judgement on that
[05:24] <sethk> Gradius9, is it possible to pop the card into another box, verify that it is working?
[05:24] <andaraone> hey guys do any of you use wireless with you ubuntu
[05:24] <Gradius9> sethk, what is weird is that it worked first time I booted with it.
[05:25] <andaraone> i could really use some help
[05:25] <Jack_Sparrow> MilesA: I know thosae work, I just am not sure where you are puitting them
[05:25] <spuddogg_> This is really frustrating.  I cannot connect to my network as long as I have WEP enabled in router settings.  As soon as I turn of WEP, I can connect perfectly.  I am positive I'm using the right key.  Any ideas anyone?
[05:25] <MilesA> Jack_Sparrow: Okay, thanks for getting me this far.
[05:25] <sethk> Gradius9, try changing the setting of PnP in the BIOS.  If it's on, turn it off; if it's off, turn it on
[05:25] <Gradius9> sethk, do not have any other boxes here, but it came out of the box now.
[05:25] <dacc> i have a mime type for m4a, and gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse installed
[05:25] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[05:25] <sethk> Gradius9, changing the pnp setting usually causes the IRQs to be assigned in a different order
[05:25] <MilesA> Jack_Sparrow: A line each, after "savedefault" and before "boot"
[05:25] <Gradius9> sethk, ok... gonna try that.. brb
[05:25] <dacc> andaraone: i do
[05:25] <holycow> spuddogg, i have yet to have a problem with this my self, accross something like 20 laptops
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Grub Boot Options  pnpbios=off
[05:26] <holycow> spuddogg, hard to say unfortunately :/
[05:26] <andaraone> dacc can you help
[05:26] <sethk> MilesA, error 27 from what?  grub?
[05:26] <deshantm> thats the version i have... but when i try to set a breakpoint it says: No source file named test.cpp
[05:26] <spuddogg_> holycow, i had no problems with my last install either.  my HD took a crap today and after my reinstall, i get this
[05:26] <holycow> *nod*
[05:26] <dacc> spuddogg_: have you checked in the logs?
[05:26] <MilesA> sethk: Yeah.
[05:27] <spuddogg_> dacc, no.  where are they located?
[05:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Between quiet and splash
[05:27] <dacc> spuddogg_: try /var/log/syslog
[05:27] <sethk> MilesA, let me check what that error means, at least.
[05:27] <dacc> spuddogg_: tail -f /var/log/syslog and try to associate
[05:28] <dacc> anybody able to play m4a files in their rhythmbox?
[05:28] <dacc> i don't know what to check at this point
[05:28] <sethk> MilesA, can you put your menu.lst file on the paste web site?
[05:29] <bear> Does anyone know something I can use to extract my .rar files?
[05:29] <MilesA> sethk: It's on an entirely different computer.
[05:29] <MarshWiggle> Hey folk, I'm completely new to ubuntu. With the live CD (6.06LTS), in order to install, do I simply load up the temporary OS into the ram and click on that 'install' icon that is there on the desktop?
[05:29] <jbroome> !unrar
[05:29] <ubotu> unrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[05:29] <dacc> spuddogg_: you might want to get NetworkManager going, it's really nice
[05:29] <sethk> MilesA, find a way to get it to the paste site if you can. we'll be able to tell you what's wrong immediately, I'm sure.
[05:29] <dacc> spuddogg_: better debug logging, too
[05:30] <spuddogg_> dacc, does this mean anything to you? Resolved address "xml:readonly:/var/lib/gconf/debian.defaults" to a read-only configuration source at position 3
[05:30] <sethk> MilesA, put it on a usb storage thing, or burn it onto a cd, or whatever
[05:30] <dacc> spuddogg_: no, looks unrelated
[05:30] <sethk> MilesA, copy it to a floppy, even
[05:30] <spuddogg_> dacc, ok.  is NetworkManager the package name?
[05:30] <bear> !info unrar-free
[05:30] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[05:30] <MilesA> sethk: I don't really have that much time left tonight. Incidentally, if I booted from the CD, would I be able to get to the hard drive and install stuff from/to there?
[05:30] <spuddogg_> !Network Manager
[05:30] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[05:31] <dacc> spuddogg_: you might try manually configuring with iwconfig, also
[05:31] <higen> spuddogg_: its network-manager
[05:31] <higen> remeber the dash :)
[05:31] <higen> do a apt-cache search network manager
[05:31] <sethk> MilesA, yes, absolutely
[05:31] <sethk> MilesA, I have a machine with a very strange disk issue and I boot it from a CD
[05:31] <dacc> ok, so nobody here plays m4a (mpeg 4 audio) in their rhythmbox?
[05:32] <spuddogg_> dacc, i have install network-manager via apt-get install.  is this in the menus or only command line?
[05:32] <MilesA> sethk: Okay, I tried putting the options in on the same line as the kernel, seems to work.
[05:32] <Gradius9> sethk, "Grub Boot Options  pnpbios=off" also?
[05:32] <dacc> i can play these files with faad at the command line, but not with gstreamer
[05:32] <dacc> spuddogg_: not sure, i only use the cli
[05:32] <bear> Couldnt you just use VLC Media player... Or does that not play m4a?
[05:32] <sethk> Gradius9, no, at least not initially.
[05:32] <spuddogg_> dacc, gotcha.  whats the command?
[05:33] <sethk> MilesA, that makes sense.  all the options go on the kernel line, except for initrd
[05:33] <dacc> bear: hmm, i'll try
[05:33] <Gradius9> sethk, changed the bios, no result, the machine is also very slow with the HW detection when the PCI card is plugged in, without it acts normal
[05:33] <dacc> spuddogg_: sudo apt-get install network-manager
[05:33] <spuddogg_> dacc, i did that
[05:33] <sethk> Gradius9, I'd say the card has a problem.
[05:33] <dacc> spuddogg_: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[05:34] <sethk> Gradius9, it's borking the PCI bus
[05:34] <spuddogg_> dacc, now just keep putting my WEP key in the box for it?  System->Admin->Networking?
[05:34] <dacc> spuddogg_: no.., it has a different interface
[05:34] <mad_man> !xsane
[05:34] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[05:34] <lupine_85> aaargh. Can I borrow a bit of sed expertise?
[05:34] <spuddogg_> dacc, how do i get to that?
[05:34] <dacc> spuddogg_: look in your gnome applets menu
[05:34] <sethk> Gradius9, next time you boot, put the pnp setting back where it was.  just to be neat.
[05:34] <Gradius9> sethk, the pci card is broke? I have checked that the pci bus works on the MB works
[05:34] <Gradius9> sethk, ok, will do
[05:35] <MilesA> sethk: Anyway, now that it apparently works I'll play solitaire or something for a bit to make sure...I really can't proceed until this driver finishes, and then I'll have to wait until tomorrow afternoon. Doubtless if I fail I'll be back. :) Thanks so far.
[05:35] <sethk> Gradius9, has to be the card
[05:35] <dacc> spuddogg_: you should see a network manager applet in there
[05:35] <sethk> Gradius9, especially with the behavior you described with the pnp setting flipped.
[05:35] <dacc> spuddogg_: try to add it to a dock
[05:35] <spuddogg_> dacc, not seeing it
[05:35] <dacc> spuddogg_: hmm, you installed network-manager-gnome?
[05:35] <Phlosten> bah, found my problem. ubuntu server has a kernel which has problems with some cpus
[05:36] <spuddogg_> dacc, lol, i just ran 'sudo apt-get install network-manager
[05:36] <dacc> spuddogg_: heh
[05:36] <Gradius9> sethk, it should work with linux, so I have to try with a windows box machine just to be sure...
[05:37] <spuddogg_> dacc, i now install network-manager-gnome, and i still dont see it.  lemme look around some more
[05:37] <dacc> spuddogg_: run nm-applet at the cli
[05:37] <krazykit> so it's strange.  flac123 plays my flac files fine, but neither amarok nor xine will play them.  they USED to work.
[05:38] <_pagefault_> Anyone real quick remind me where the kernel-sources are on ubuntu? I can't seem to find it.. **thumps head**
[05:38] <krazykit> _pagefault_: in apt.
[05:38] <_pagefault_> krazykit: I've installed them, I just can't find the /path/to/them for a compile...
[05:38] <dacc> spuddogg_: you should get a little icon in your dock after running nm-applet .. in the "notification area"
[05:39] <ahmad> hallloooo
[05:39] <spuddogg_> dacc, ok, i see the little icon now.  however, it tells me there are no network devices available
[05:39] <krazykit> _pagefault_: /usr/src
[05:39] <dacc> spuddogg_: hmm
[05:39] <spuddogg_> but im on the net wirelessly, just without WEP
[05:39] <dacc> spuddogg_: huh, weird
[05:40] <deshantm> ok i fixed the problem by enabling debugging in the compile settings -->options.
[05:40] <dacc> spuddogg_: look in ps xua for NetworkManager
[05:40] <spuddogg_> dacc, maybe a restart?  also, will this come up every time i boot?
[05:40] <_pagefault_> krazykit: tnx. was in /usr/lib for some reason...
[05:40] <unfknblvbl> i need a good gnome text editor with latex syntax highlighting besides gedit
[05:40] <krazykit> unfknblvbl: gvim?
[05:41] <unfknblvbl> hrmm
[05:41] <unfknblvbl> watelse
[05:41] <dacc> spuddogg_: maybe.  yeah, NetworkManager daemon will start, but nm-applet needs to be added to your gnome session, i think
[05:41] <krazykit> unfknblvbl: kate, if you don't mind pulling in kde libs.
[05:41] <variant> how can i get proper utf-8 support in ubuntu?
[05:41] <spuddogg_> dacc, sorry about all the noob questions, but how do i add this so it starts every time i boot?  add to gnome session?
[05:41] <variant> unfknblvbl: emacs
[05:41] <subhuman_> where i can get german support for ubuntu?
[05:42] <unfknblvbl> kta
[05:42] <dacc> spuddogg_: let's get it to work first =)
[05:42] <Emigre> Hello.  I'm seriously interested in making a switch over on my main computer to Ubuntu linux but could use your advice and help before making the plunge.  Is this the right channel to ask for beginner help?
[05:42] <unfknblvbl> its just that the visual syntax highlighting in gedit is ugly
[05:42] <spuddogg_> should i restart?
[05:42] <dacc> spuddogg_: yeah, go into your session manager
[05:42] <spuddogg_> dacc, should i restart?
[05:42] <unfknblvbl> i dunn how to edit those settings though
[05:42] <dacc> spuddogg_: yeah, go ahead
[05:42] <variant> Emigre: yes, but you might not always get the right answer
[05:42] <variant> Emigre: depends on who you ask
[05:43] <supermiguel> i can read but i cant write on my ntfs partition it says permission denied any idea???
[05:44] <variant> Emigre: what questions you got?
[05:44] <Emigre> My big concern is that there's an open-source equivilant to all the programs that I want to use except for three that I can think of.  Is there a freeware Virtual Machine or something, where I can have access to a Windows session inside of Linux, and if so, does it run at near-full-speed?
[05:44] <cha-cha02> hay
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> Emigre,  vmware
[05:44] <Emigre> I'm going to join #VMware in a moment then.
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> Emigre,  it runs decently well.. depends on the ap.. or ya could run linu x under windows with vmware. :P
[05:44] <variant> Emigre: yeah there is
[05:44] <Phlosten> Emigre: download VMWare Server, its free, its not open source though
[05:45] <griffiti93> hello
[05:45] <dacc> use xen =)
[05:45] <Emigre> I was actually thinking about running Windows under Linux...
[05:45] <supermiguel> vmware what is that for?
[05:45] <variant> Emigre: you can use vmware there are other Free software ones as well (NOT freeware but still Free )
[05:45] <variant> Emigre: you can do that
[05:45] <dacc> Emigre: oh.., use qemu =)
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> vmware seems to preform qemu for me.
[05:46] <supermiguel> what is vmware for?
[05:46] <griffiti93> hey does anyone know how to change the "default music player" from RhythmBox?
[05:46] <Emigre> Specifically, I was wondering if it would be possible to have a Windows Partition that I could either boot to OR access via a VMWare like program.  If I want speed (like a gaming session) I reboot and go into Windows - but if I just want access to a Windows only app, like Photoshop, I would not necessarily have to reboot to do so.
[05:46] <griffiti93> I want to setup a shortcut key to open XMMS
[05:46] <dacc> griffiti93: to what?
[05:46] <Phlosten> supermiguel: its a virtual machine, for running an OS within an OS
[05:46] <dacc> ah
[05:46] <mad_man> !backend
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about backend - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <dacc> Emigre: i've done that, heh
[05:46] <griffiti93> but when I setup the key
[05:46] <griffiti93> it opens RhythmBox
[05:46] <dacc> Emigre: windows gets very confused about devices
[05:46] <variant> Emigre: yeah you can do that
[05:47] <spuddogg> dacc, you still here?
[05:47] <dacc> Emigre: this was years ago, though...  with "hardware profiles"
[05:47] <dacc> spuddogg: yeah, how's it going?
[05:47] <variant> Emigre: if you have a cpu with VT tech then you can use xen to do that
[05:47] <spuddogg> dacc:  well, the icon came up automatically, but still does not show a network connection
[05:47] <Pr|] [V] [o> holaa
[05:47] <dacc> spuddogg: hmm, weird
[05:48] <Pr|] [V] [o> alguien que hable espaol?
[05:48] <dacc> spuddogg: maybe try bringing down your network interface
[05:48] <Emigre> My CPU is an Athlon 64 3200+.
[05:48] <dacc> spuddogg: then maybe NetworkManager will take it over
[05:48] <variant> Emigre: yeah that doesnt hav eit
[05:48] <botxj> cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ @ 1.00GHz w/ 512 KB L2 Cache] 
[05:48] <spuddogg> dacc, well, its midnight here and im tired.  thanks for the help.  im gonna play with this more tomorrow
[05:48] <dacc> spuddogg: ok, gl
[05:48] <botxj> Emigre:  your CPU slightly pwns mine
[05:48] <spuddogg> dacc, thanks again for all the help man
[05:48] <dacc> spuddogg: yeah, np =) g'night
[05:49] <sethk> my cpu can beat up your cpu
[05:49] <spuddogg> dacc, you too :)
[05:49] <botxj> my cpu is kinda pathetic isnt it
[05:49] <botxj> i want a dualcore!
[05:49] <sethk> botxj, very likely your cpu is not the thing that limits your machine's performance
[05:49] <Pr|] [V] [o> alguien que hable espaol?
[05:49] <botxj> well, i never complain about my performance sethk
[05:50] <sethk> botxj, then why complain about the cpu?  :)
[05:50] <botxj> i mean i have 3GB of ram, 7200rpm hdd
[05:50] <griffiti93> does anyone know how to modify "default" applications?
[05:50] <botxj> sethk: i was being dramatic, lol
[05:52] <Slynderdale> I have a question, I just created a live CD of Ubuntu. Could I use this CD to create a dual boot of an already existing windows XP install and Ubuntu?
[05:52] <variant> Slynderdale: yes
[05:52] <ArrenLex> If it finds another operating system, it will prompt you to install Grub, the boot manager.
[05:52] <ArrenLex> Grub will let you dual-boot.
[05:53] <sethk> Slynderdale, it's possible, sure
[05:53] <J-_> is there a way to dock the terminal to the desktop?
[05:53] <AbortD> !restricted
[05:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:53] <Slynderdale> Hmm, how much diskspace should I set aside for an Ubuntu partition?
[05:53] <variant> J-_: you mean, make it always lowest visible window?
[05:53] <sethk> Slynderdale, depends on what you are using your box for.
[05:53] <ArrenLex> What are you going to do on it? Text\email, or movie rendering?
[05:53] <ArrenLex> Very different demands.
[05:53] <variant> Slynderdale: how much you got? not less than 6gb to stay comfertable
[05:54] <Gevaudan82> Slynberdale...100mb for boot, twice your memory for swap and whatever else you have left over for /
[05:54] <variant> Slynderdale: my /boot is 32mb.. never run out of space in five years of compiling my own kernels
[05:54] <bl4cktone> Hey guys I'm having trouble getting sound to work for google video and youtube, I tried apt-get alsa-oss but it says I already have it.  It did work yesterday but today I'm not getting sound. Can someone help me?
[05:54] <J-_> variant: not sure instead of the termonal being a window, can i embed it right to the desktop?
[05:54] <J-_> terminal*
[05:54] <bl4cktone> Everything else works for sound
[05:55] <ArrenLex> bl4ck, You use firefox?
[05:55] <variant> J-_: yeah, thats gonna mess up howyour desktop works though.. you want it to just display output or be a functional command line?
[05:55] <bl4cktone> ArrenLex: yes
[05:55] <J-_> functional
[05:55] <Slynderdale> Well, nothing as disk intensive as movie rendering, just basicly everyday use. I plan to start phasing over to Linux from Windows as my main OS.
[05:56] <ArrenLex> Modify /etc/firefox/firefoxrc and make it read:
[05:56] <ArrenLex> FIREFOX_DSP="aoss"
[05:56] <tim__> oops, i think i made a bad mistake. i was messing with my /etc/hosts file, and i hashed the line "127.0.1.1 \t hostamehere". now, sudo says sudo: unable to lookup chasm via gethostbyname()
[05:56] <Gevaudan82> Sylnderdale...8gb would put you on the safe side
[05:56] <variant> J-_: hmm.. yeah on say fluxbox window manager you can set the layer you wan thte window to be on.. its simple with that. gnome doesnt allow that though.. dunno how you would do it
[05:56] <Pr|] [V] [o> alguien que hable espaol?
[05:56] <ArrenLex> And then modify /usr/bin/firefox and change the last line to
[05:56] <ArrenLex> exec_verbose aoss ${MOZ_PROGRAM} "$@"
[05:56] <Pr|] [V] [o> help spanish
[05:56] <tim__> hablo espanol
[05:56] <sethk> !es
[05:56] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:56] <ArrenLex> See what happens.
[05:57] <J-_> variant: cool, maybe i'll try and get fluxbox working, i always wanted to, but now that i have a printer working i can use it for instructional use =D
[05:57] <Gevaudan82> tim_: my top line is 127.0.0.1 localhost apollo.cbnetwork.lan ....change apollo... to whatever you want
[05:57] <bl4cktone> just past the exec_verbose aoss ${MOZ_PROGRAM} "$@" into the terminal?
[05:57] <variant> J-_: fluxbox is easy.. just apt-get install fluxbox and choose it at login time
[05:57] <J-_> hmm
[05:57] <J-_> k..
[05:58] <tim__> how can i do that if i dont have root privelegdes. thats why im trying to sudo vi it
[05:58] <ArrenLex> bl4ck... No. You have to modify /usr/bin/firefox to say that line at the end instead of what it has now.
[05:58] <J-_> i tried before, and it crashed my computer
[05:58] <variant> choose it on gdm under sessions
[05:58] <variant> J-_: that seems unlikely
[05:58] <J-_> k
[05:58] <ArrenLex> For example, if you use nano, you type 'sudo nano /usr/bin/firefox' in the term. Then scroll to the last line and change it to what I said.
[05:58] <J-_> it happened heh, it was either SUSE, or ubuntu, i forget
[05:59] <variant> J-_: well, suse was allways a pos imo
[05:59] <variant> J-_: not tried it for years though
[05:59] <Gevaudan82> tim_ sudo should work...if you don't have access to sudo or root append the word single if you have physical access to your grub boot loader
[05:59] <J-_> gonna try fluxbox now heh
[05:59] <J-_> thanks for the help
[05:59] <Gevaudan82> tim_ note if you do have sudo when you save type :wq!
[05:59] <zoidberg> guys does anyone know how to get AIGLX to work for dapper?
[06:00] <variant> J-_: np
[06:00] <bl4cktone> ArrenLex: woot it works thanks man!
[06:00] <varsendaggr> zoidberg, go to ubuntu-sxgl
[06:00] <variant> zoidberg: there is a tutorial on the net
[06:00] <ArrenLex> Good to hear! Make sure your sound sync is good.
[06:00] <adc> hello. my packages seem to e a little borked. how can i clean it up? i first noticed it when trying to install libsdl1.2-dev (unmet dependencies: ibglu1-mesa-dev: Depends: libglu1-mesa (= 6.4.1-0ubuntu8) but 6.5.1-cvs20060628 is to be installed). now flashplugin-nonfree fails
[06:00] <ArrenLex> It might not be. If it's not there are extra instructions..
[06:00] <variant> zoidberg: be prepared for a borked system
[06:01] <tim__> Gevaudan82, nope. i dont have it. ill have to grub it
[06:01] <Homer> real men use vim or emacs
[06:01] <Homer> all these "user friendly text editors" gah
[06:01] <ArrenLex> Linux users != real men.
[06:01] <Homer> lol
[06:01] <varsendaggr> variant, that is true
[06:01] <Gevaudan82> tim_ makes me wonder how you were able to f up your /etc/hosts file in the first place if you don't have write access to it...but alas, good luck!
[06:02] <Homer> what is that really low level editor
[06:02] <Homer> ed?
[06:02] <tim> Gevaudan82, i :wq on it after sudo vi hosts
[06:02] <Homer> yeah ed
[06:02] <Homer> real men use ed and like it
[06:03] <ArrenLex> Masochists use ed and like it. That's not for all of us.
[06:03] <ArrenLex> I respect your pleasures, though. Whatever floats your boat.
[06:03] <mad_man> warning: Missing REQUIRED dependency: gcc (gcc - GNU Project C and C++ Compiler) Where do i get this ?
[06:03] <bl4cktone> ArrenLex: all is good
[06:03] <ArrenLex> Good stuff! Glad I could help.
[06:03] <Gevaudan82> mad_man: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[06:03] <cherubiel> madman: buld-essentials
[06:03] <tim> Gevaudan82, ok ok, tu che. you were right, i did have root. i had another terminal open that i was trying to use, but from my first one, i still had root
[06:04] <Gevaudan82> tim: make sure once you change anything in /etc/hosts you do a restart...it's one of the few things that requires a full restart, not a log out
[06:04] <bl4cktone> You guys know a good program to open .nzb to start downloading from a newshost?
[06:04] <Gevaudan82> tim: also if you are changing your hostname make sure /etc/sysconfig/network is up to date
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> i cant say that ive ever heard of a .nzb befor
[06:04] <zoidberg> well guys is there something like XGL or something that will work on DAPPER?
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> !xgl
[06:05] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:05] <deshantm> !ide
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <mad_man> E: Couldn't find package build-essentials. Where do i find ?
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> Compwiz is good for some eye candy. :P
[06:05] <Gevaudan82> zoidberg: #ubuntu-xgl...stick too buggy for my tatstes but it has potential
[06:05] <ArrenLex> Dr_Willis: google "nzb linux".
[06:05] <variant> Gevaudan82: thats not true
[06:05] <variant> mad_man: build-essential
[06:05] <ArrenLex> Not Dr_Willis. bl4cktone.
[06:05] <variant> mad_man: not build-essentials
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:06] <Farhan> Question do i install esd by apt-get install esdlib-alsa0?
[06:06] <cherubiel> bl4cktone: if thats a newsreader format, use thunderbird
[06:06] <varsendaggr> Dr_Willis, i think that xgl and compix are great for tasks and workflow
[06:06] <Gevaudan82> variant: everything worked for me except the menu bar with the min,max,close buttons would not show up
[06:06] <varsendaggr> alt-tab revolutionized my life
[06:06] <Homer> is there a nice and easy package for xgl yet
[06:06] <Homer> !xgl
[06:06] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:06] <variant> Homer: stop spamming hte bot ffs
[06:07] <bl4cktone> ArrenLex: just trying to get a general outlook of what others used,  I use Grabit! in windows
[06:07] <delaney> whats the command in console that will tell me my IP
[06:07] <Farhan> ifconfig??///
[06:07] <variant> delaney: ifconfig
[06:07] <Gevaudan82> delaney: ifconfig
[06:07] <zoidberg> yeah guys XGL doesnt work for me i tried....
[06:07] <delaney> rad
[06:07] <delaney> thanks
[06:07] <zoidberg> i heard that AIGLX comes with EDGY by default?
[06:07] <Farhan> do people normally install esd?
[06:07] <zoidberg> is edgy out?
[06:07] <Farhan> nah not yet
[06:07] <Farhan> it will be though i'm running edgy knot3 on my desktop
[06:07] <variant> zoidberg: you can install it but its unstable
[06:07] <Farhan> i mean laptop
[06:07] <variant> Farhan: same here
[06:07] <variant> its nice
[06:08] <Farhan> i'm not going to say what i'm running on my desktop fear of being hung and quortered
[06:08] <Slynderdale> Hmm, for someone new to a Linuc enviroment, do you suiggest Gnome, KDE or another?
[06:08] <Farhan> gnome
[06:08] <Gevaudan82> gnome...simplier and less cluttered
[06:08] <ArrenLex> I'm going to be contrary and say KDE.
[06:08] <variant> xfce4 owns all
[06:08] <ArrenLex> It's very powerful and configurable. And complete. Easy to learn but also powerful. But resource-hungry.
[06:09] <bl4cktone> cherubiel, it's a Binary Usenet Downloader
[06:09] <jazzrocker> Farhan, ESD is installed by default on Ubuntu
[06:09] <SonicChao> KDE
[06:09] <jazzrocker> Farhan, it's what GNOME uses
[06:09] <Farhan> i'm going to be totally out there and i'm going to say, I use the cli control alt f1 for the win. lol
[06:09] <Farhan> hmm oh ok
[06:09] <Farhan> must be a screenreader issue then
[06:09] <Farhan> my gaim sounds can't play wile other sounds are playing
[06:09] <jazzrocker> Farhan, what, are your unnin windows or something?
[06:09] <mad_man> warning: Missing REQUIRED dependency: libjpeg (libjpeg - JPEG library) what about this ?
[06:09] <Farhan> whare?
[06:09] <jazzrocker> Farhan, on your desktop
[06:09] <Farhan> eah
[06:10] <Farhan> yeah
[06:10] <Farhan> i have to
[06:10] <Slynderdale> ArrenLex: Can't be as bad as Windows XP with all the "special efefcts" turned on or Windows Vista for that matter.
[06:10] <jazzrocker> Farhan, set Gaim to use ESD
[06:10] <Farhan> windows won't run
[06:10] <Farhan> i mean linux
[06:10] <OmniD> jeez now vmware is refusing to load
[06:10] <Farhan> it gives me a giant blue screen
[06:10] <ArrenLex> I have my XP set to "windows classic" with no effects. It just hurt my eyes.
[06:10] <Farhan> me to
[06:10] <OmniD> ditto
[06:10] <DanaG> Onboard is for system and web audio, offboard is for music and video.
[06:10] <jazzrocker> hahaha, yeah the "XP" theme is the most ugly thing i've seen in a long time
[06:10] <OmniD> wmware is refusing to load now
[06:10] <Farhan> it makes my old amd 2000 wit 256 mb of ram runf aster.
[06:11] <jazzrocker> Farhan, what computer do you have on your desktop? what chipset/mobo/proc etc?
[06:11] <DanaG> Mmm, I wish Fisher-Price would have sued them for infringing their trademark style.
[06:11] <DanaG> Luna == barf.
[06:11] <Farhan> amd 2000 with 256 mb ram, and a asus va78xx something like that
[06:11] <Farhan> mobo
[06:11] <Slynderdale> Wait till you see Windows Vista, if you thought XP had an inconstistent GUI, just wait. Most of the default Vista programs use like 4-5 different GUI configurations.
[06:11] <jazzrocker> Farhan, Gaim - > Tools -> Preferences -> Sound -> Sound Method -> ESD
[06:11] <Farhan> and a ati mac 64 card
[06:11] <Farhan> oh ok
[06:11] <OmniD> I like the Vista GUI better actually
[06:11] <johnnybuoy> ok, yes
[06:11] <ArrenLex> Well it can't be worse than the conflict between QT\GTK+, where your 'yes no cancel' order is different.
[06:11] <Farhan> i use gnome-orca for my screenreader and its kinda slow. lol.
[06:11] <ArrenLex> That's hell.
[06:12] <AbortD> i keep hearing about this vista forever and a year ago
[06:12] <AbortD> gay :P
[06:12] <johnnybuoy> video card there is none even such yet
[06:12] <Farhan> vista rc1 is out. i think
[06:12] <johnnybuoy> and wallets too :P
[06:12] <Gevaudan82> Sylynderdale: true, but linux programs by their very nature have much more user interfaces than that
[06:12] <jazzrocker> ArrenLex, that's why i don't use Qt apps :)
[06:12] <jazzrocker> ArrenLex, and if you use GTK-Qt i think that problem is fixed
[06:12] <ArrenLex> I happen to think GTK is ugly as sin and a devil to program for.
[06:12] <ArrenLex> But okay.
[06:12] <OmniD> AbortD well it's out in RC1 you can download and use it.
[06:12] <Homer> gtk is themeable no?
[06:12] <Homer> :[
[06:12] <jazzrocker> ArrenLex, uhhhh, i happen to think GTK has nothing to do with how "ugly" it is
[06:12] <SonicChao> Yeah Homer
[06:12] <variant> Homer: of course
[06:12] <jazzrocker> ArrenLex, it's your GTK theme that makes it look like whatever it is
[06:13] <Homer> it's ugly in kde
[06:13] <ArrenLex> Of course it's themeable.
[06:13] <Homer> probably on purpose
[06:13] <Homer> hehe
[06:13] <whyso> does ubuntu support the intel extreme edition processors? its still x86 i think
[06:13] <johnnybuoy> i use cairo+glitz gtk2.2 and it is pretty fine
[06:13] <Slynderdale> You need a beta serial number to use the RC1, unless you got in the early beta, you'll have a tough time at egtting one
[06:13] <variant> whyso: yes
[06:13] <whyso> thanx
[06:13] <ArrenLex> But there is a general feel to every toolkit. The gtk+ icons, the soft edges on the buttons, all those things give it a "feeling".
[06:13] <jazzrocker> ArrenLex, i happen to think that GTK+ is very easy and elegant to program for
[06:13] <ArrenLex> And to me that feeling is "crap".
[06:13] <Homer> gtk+ in it's native enviroment looks great
[06:13] <johnnybuoy> and now wobblyts and such :)
[06:13] <whyso> also, the pci express graphics cards
[06:13] <variant> whyso: yes
[06:13] <jazzrocker> ArrenLex, uhhh, you can change all of that with the *theme*
[06:13] <johnnybuoy> i saw a panel that had wobblys on it
[06:13] <variant> whyso: of course :)
[06:14] <johnnybuoy> :)
[06:14] <ArrenLex> I don't want to flame war tookits. Honestly. Please let's not.
[06:14] <Farhan> i  like how linux jsut finds my hardware. windows you otta do a whole bunch of driver configuration.
[06:14] <jazzrocker> ArrenLex, so then why did you start?
[06:14] <johnnybuoy> and alive icons
[06:14] <Gevaudan82> Slynderdale...maybe not, therew was a slickdeals.net post last week listing the registration site...it's probally still there if you search teh archives
[06:14] <johnnybuoy> at almost no cost to cpu :)
[06:14] <jazzrocker> ArrenLex, "to me that feeling is crap" <- not the most non-flamish thing i've ever heard
[06:14] <ArrenLex> (22:12:36) jazzrocker: ArrenLex, that's why i don't use Qt apps :)
[06:14] <ArrenLex> In response to that.
[06:14] <jazzrocker> GTK+ rocks
[06:14] <jazzrocker> ArrenLex, it works both ways though... you could just as easily "not use GTK apps" and then you wouldn't have that "button order" problem
[06:15] <ArrenLex> I think the ubuntu forum is the wrong place to insult Gnome's toolkit. Hmmm.
[06:15] <jazzrocker> Qt/KDE is bloated
[06:15] <Gevaudan82> Farhan: in all honestly, windows has much better driver support than linux...the only reason your hardware is probally found by linux is the distro is < 6 months old...windows xp is what 4 years old now?
[06:15] <zack_> im currently using regular ubuntu with gnome, but i also wanted to be able to use kde. i used the command "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop" and when i change sessions to login i get a error stating a kstartupconfig  error and i need to check my installation. how do i fix this?
[06:15] <mad_man> where do i get this | dependency: libjpeg (libjpeg - JPEG library)
[06:15] <whyso> last thing (i promose, just making sure i can install) does it support 4gb ram?
[06:15] <johnnybuoy> kde4 will be something, i hear...
[06:15] <variant> Gevaudan82: huh? thats flame bait if i ever heard it..
[06:15] <Homer> GTK+ looks like windows 95 in stock KDE
[06:15] <bl4cktone> where is xorg.conf located?
[06:15] <variant> whyso: yes of course
[06:15] <johnnybuoy> *very* fast, *very* usable
[06:15] <ArrenLex> zack_, make sure you have kdebase installed.
[06:15] <Slynderdale> Hmm, in the Ubunto install, for the partition managment, which option should I choose, manual configure it or have Ubuntu resize the drive?
[06:15] <zack_> arrenlex ok ill try that
[06:15] <AbortD> mad_man, apt-cache search libjpg?
[06:15] <jazzrocker> every time i've ever used KDE it has segfaulted ALL over the place and that's not hyperbole
[06:15] <ArrenLex> And kde-core.
[06:15] <whyso> thanx for help guys
[06:15] <variant> whyso: it runs on the fastest super computers in the word.. you can bet your ass it supporst your ram
[06:16] <bl4cktone> anyone know where xorg.conf is located?
[06:16] <jazzrocker> in the past five years, over three different well built custom built systems, KDE has routinely segfaulted on me
[06:16] <gmi01> hello, does ubuntu have drivers for usb isdn modems?
[06:16] <ArrenLex> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:16] <variant> bl4cktone: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:16] <jazzrocker> ESPECIALLY on the control center
[06:16] <bl4cktone> thanks
[06:16] <ubuntu-novice> Good morning/evening to you all: I know this isn't the right forum for my question.  Nevertheless does anyone know a good place to start learning GUI programming for Ubuntu? I am using Gnome.
[06:16] <Farhan> Stupid windows
[06:16] <Homer> kdelibs are pretty buggy
[06:16] <Gevaudan82> variant: i didn't intend it that way but you can't argue w/ the fact that most hardware manufactuers are designing with windows in mind...even matrox which used to be a great supplier of linux drivers has outsourced their support to the open source community
[06:16] <johnnybuoy> Slynderdale, what disk are you using?
[06:16] <jazzrocker> KDE is nice if you don't care whether your apps work but would rather have them look cool and with features no one cares about
[06:17] <zack_> arrenlex i seem to have both
[06:17] <jazzrocker> GNOME is xdnd compliant. KDE is not.
[06:17] <Farhan> what's he difference between aptitude and apt-get?
[06:17] <Farhan> i don't no it
[06:17] <Slynderdale> johnnybuoy: I only have a single disk that currently has Widnows XP on it, which I don't want to lose or get formatted.
[06:17] <variant> Gevaudan82: yeah, i find that hardware support is much more transparent under gnu/linux and much more hardware in gnu/linux doesnt require any "installation" to make it work.. unlike iwndows
[06:17] <ArrenLex> Aptitude is a more refined apt-get with better dependency checking and resolution.
[06:17] <johnnybuoy> Slynderdale, then manual, very dagerous hing to do...
[06:17] <jazzrocker> Slynderdale, how large is your windows disk?
[06:17] <variant> flashnet: aptitude is just a grphical interface to apt-get
[06:18] <Homer> Farhan: aptitude has a GUI interface
[06:18] <Homer> for one
[06:18] <Farhan> oh
[06:18] <jazzrocker> Slynderdale, always make a backup
[06:18] <Slynderdale> 60 gigs, 50% disk space free
[06:18] <variant> Farhan: aptitude is just a grphical interface to apt-get
[06:18] <jazzrocker> Slynderdale, but last time i tried i did successfully resize my partition
[06:18] <Farhan> oh so it doesn/';t matter
[06:18] <jazzrocker> Slynderdale, i think you should be fine
[06:18] <variant> Farhan: exactly
[06:18] <jazzrocker> Slynderdale, you just need to have enough free space on the partition
[06:18] <johnnybuoy> what filesystem , Slynderdale
[06:18] <variant> Farhan: aptitude uses apt-get commands
[06:18] <Farhan> i resiaed my windows xp on my laptop with partition majic
[06:18] <mad_man> AbortD: i'm getting this:Missing REQUIRED dependency: libjpeg (libjpeg - JPEG library) i have no clue
[06:18] <jazzrocker> johnlittle, that doesn't really matter i don't think
[06:18] <Slynderdale> NTFS
[06:18] <Farhan> resized
[06:18] <Gevaudan82> variant: i guess we'll have to agree to disagree...most of the drivers ubuntu uses by default are half assed and don't really live up to the full specs of the hardware which is typically designed for windows...not always the case, but often
[06:18] <variant> Farhan: cool, should be fine for ubuntu
[06:18] <johnnybuoy> Slynderdale, no-go
[06:19] <jazzrocker> Slynderdale, you're fine then i think. as i said, always backup <- don't say we didn't warn you
[06:19] <ArrenLex> mad_man, if you get dependency errors, try searching for the package. 'apt-cache search libjpeg'.
[06:19] <johnnybuoy> Slynderdale, or reformat whole disk or forget it.
[06:19] <jazzrocker> johnnybuoy, no go? interesting that I had no problems resizing *my* NTFS partition.
[06:19] <variant> Gevaudan82: for example (excluding gfx cards and wifi - we all know about htat issue)
[06:19] <variant> ?
[06:19] <Farhan> i had my mom help me install linux
[06:19] <Farhan> the installer doesn't talk yet
[06:19] <variant> Farhan: nice1 m8 :)
[06:19] <johnnybuoy> jazzrocker, really?
[06:19] <Farhan> with orca
[06:19] <Lynoure> jazzrocker: http://www.newplanetsoftware.com/xdnd/supporters.html
[06:19] <jazzrocker> johnnybuoy, really
[06:19] <johnnybuoy> Slynderdale, wait...
[06:20] <Farhan> i can't wait for stable edgy to come out, my acpi support si broken on my laptop and i'm not sure how to fix it.
[06:20] <Farhan> is
[06:20] <Gevaudan82> variant: one example includes a dell precisoin 390 workstation i just bought...ubuntu doesn't detec teh built in ethernet...search dell's website and the only downloads you find are for windows...just one example
[06:20] <arkangelp> Hello everyone
[06:20] <Lynoure> jazzrocker: KDE and QT are both there
[06:20] <variant> Gevaudan82: what kind of card is it?
[06:20] <Gevaudan82> variant: i had a spare linksys pci ethernet card laying around so i just used that in the mean time
[06:20] <johnnybuoy> Farhan, DSDT-in-initrd?
[06:20] <Gevaudan82> variant: the name escapes me off the top of my head
[06:20] <variant> Gevaudan82: in my experience ethernet cards are far better supported under gnu/linux than in windows
[06:20] <zoidberg> guys are there any alternatives to XGL and AIGL?
[06:20] <Farhan> dsd?
[06:20] <Farhan> what?
[06:20] <jazzrocker> Lynoure, they might be listed but they don't work.
[06:21] <arkangelp> Does anyone remember the command to run one more time the X server config?
[06:21] <johnnybuoy> Farhan,  for acpi prob.?
[06:21] <jazzrocker> Lynoure, e.g. try to drag'n'drop a file from Konqeror into gvim
[06:21] <variant> Gevaudan82: i have a ton of ethernet cards in a box which windows no longer has drivers for
[06:21] <Farhan> what do yo want me t do?
[06:21] <Farhan> you
[06:21] <ArrenLex> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:21] <jazzrocker> Lynoure, doesn't work.
[06:21] <arkangelp> I just made an update on my ubuntu and now I can't start x
[06:21] <arkangelp> thx ArrenLex
[06:21] <Slynderdale> johnnybuoy: I'm not doing the Resize/Partitioning yet, first I wanted to make sure which option to choose and checked tos ee if it will work on a NTFS drive before I go ahead.
[06:21] <mad_man> ArrenLex: i got a msg. i dont know how to make the connection
[06:21] <Farhan> dpkg loves to mess up
[06:21] <ArrenLex> arkangelp, what does it say?
[06:21] <ArrenLex> mad_man, what message, what connection?
[06:22] <Lynoure> jazzrocker: I do not use gwim... Have you filed a bug?
[06:22] <arkangelp> it shows me a wired error.. and just happened because I made an software update on the synaptic
[06:22] <johnnybuoy> Slynderdale, jazzrocker said it works ask him
[06:22] <arkangelp> its something about Default Screen
[06:22] <Farhan> does every linux distro besides redhat and all  the redhat produced distros use standerd directories like /ect/init.
[06:22] <ArrenLex> "weird error" doesn't really help.
[06:23] <ArrenLex> What does it say?
[06:23] <oga> hey all i'm trying to perform a command (pdfnup) on pdf files in a directory, si there anyway that I can select all files in the directory from terminal as an argument i.e. @oga:- pdfnup (allfiles)
[06:23] <johnnybuoy> Farhan, acpi dsdt in initrd. i think it is an 'ubuntu' patch
[06:23] <zoidberg> guys are there any alternatives to XGL and AIGL?
[06:23] <Gevaudan82> Farhan: most all...but you'll find some things are a bit different in debian, namely the apache directory configuration
[06:23] <ArrenLex> pdfnup `ls`
[06:23] <arkangelp> ArrenLex:
[06:23] <ArrenLex> *suspense*
[06:24] <jazzrocker> Lynoure, whether you use gvim has nothing to do with it. the point is that the KDE folks are apt to come back with an answer like "that's not a bug it's a feature!"
[06:24] <arkangelp> ArrenLex:
[06:24] <oga> ArrenLex nope
[06:24] <Farhan> whats a good ftp client for gnome?
[06:24] <Gevaudan82> Farhan: there's a consortium that decides on the main file structure but it's up to the distro to stick to it or not
[06:24] <jazzrocker> Farhan, Nautilus
[06:24] <Farhan> oh ok
[06:24] <Farhan> hmm
[06:24] <mad_man> ArrenLex: the connection to  get libjpeg (libjpeg - JPEG library)
[06:24] <Gevaudan82> farhan: gftp
[06:24] <jazzrocker> gFTP sucks
[06:24] <ArrenLex> What do you mean, nope? Tell me what it says.
[06:24] <jazzrocker> Farhan, use Nautilus
[06:24] <Farhan> gftp you can control upspeed and downspeed with gftp, ca't you?
[06:24] <Farhan> can't
[06:24] <Lynoure> jazzrocker: ubuntu people are usually sensible about bugs
[06:24] <jazzrocker> Farhan, use. nau. ti. lus.
[06:24] <ArrenLex> If it expects only one argument, try "for file in `ls` ; do pdfnup $file ; done"
[06:25] <Farhan> it messed up all the time. lol
[06:25] <Farhan> it does
[06:25] <Gevaudan82> i try not to use ftp when i can...but gftp works ok for my purposes
[06:25] <DanaG> Oh hey, is there a theme somewhere that combines the current orange colors with the old softer-looking buttons?
[06:25] <oga> unrecognised arguemnt ls
[06:25] <DanaG> Oh, and the Clearlooks titlebars.
[06:25] <Farhan> how about i usethe console. lol
[06:25] <jazzrocker> Lynoure, uhhh, it's not a bug that needs to be filed with the Ubuntu folks, it's the KDE devs that need to change something and i'm not sure what.
[06:25] <Farhan> that fixes everything.
[06:25] <oga> arrenlex i'll try
[06:25] <wastrel> ncftp
[06:25] <ArrenLex> Did you put ls in the backwards quites? It's the key you get when you press the corner key. The tilde key.
[06:25] <ArrenLex> shift+` = ~
[06:26] <oga> ah
[06:26] <ArrenLex> quites -> quotes
[06:26] <ArrenLex> I'm sure they have some sort of actual name, but to hell with that.
[06:26] <Farhan> When windows vist comes out i'm switching.
[06:26] <Lynoure> jazzrocker: yes, but one can let the ubuntu people promote it upwards... might work better.
[06:26] <wastrel> backtick mebby
[06:26] <oga> i was using apostropy but that still does not work, (unrecognised argument cf_list
[06:26] <oga> ) so i'll try the for file way
[06:27] <ArrenLex> Not the apostrophe. The ` key.
[06:27] <wastrel> $(ls) works too
[06:27] <ArrenLex> On the tilde.
[06:27] <ArrenLex> Yes, or what wastrel said.
[06:27] <jazzrocker> Lynoure, mmmmmm, perhaps. dunno how much the Ubuntu folks care about my situation because i don't think there is a large demand for what i'm talking about
[06:27] <jazzrocker> Lynoure, it's just a very common feature that *should* be implemented correctly in the first place
[06:27] <Farhan> i just wish the screenreading suppor towudl ge better tha's all
[06:27] <Farhan> would get better
[06:27] <ArrenLex> jazzrocker, what issue is this again?
[06:27] <fdsd> hey guys, I have a huge list of apps I want to remove, they are in a plain txt file, how do I remove every package that is in that file?
[06:27] <jazzrocker> ArrenLex, you can't drag'n'drop a file from Konqeror into gvim
[06:28] <jazzrocker> ArrenLex, but you can drag'n'drop from Nautilus into kde apps
[06:28] <wastrel> *pdf ?
[06:28] <Farhan> select all the packages in the txt file
[06:28] <bl4cktone> Hey guys I'm trying to install Klibido in 6.06 I've done apt-get install apt-build but when I get to apt-build build-source klibido it says apt-build build-source klibido I'm following instructions on this web page http://klibido.sourceforge.net/#_download
[06:28] <ArrenLex> Does gvim open for you?
[06:28] <ArrenLex> I remember I couldn't use gvim because the window shrunk itself.
[06:28] <Farhan> what apt-build?
[06:28] <Farhan> whats
[06:28] <jazzrocker> ArrenLex, uhhhh, what did who now? i've never had a problem with gvim running
[06:28] <jazzrocker> ArrenLex, i'm not sure what you did to it to make it not work :P
[06:28] <ArrenLex> Okay, just checking. Ignore me.
[06:28] <oga> Arrenlex i did and it gave me an error
[06:28] <bl4cktone> I mean it says error occured building sources package
[06:28] <ArrenLex> oga: What error?
[06:29] <ArrenLex> fdsd: what does the file look like? A package a line?
[06:29] <ludedeeds> anyone know how to install directx 9 august or april release in wine?
[06:29] <fdsd> ArrenLex, yes
[06:29] <ludedeeds> am getting cryptographic services error
[06:29] <ArrenLex> This is a hacky way, but you could just recurse over it.
[06:29] <jazzrocker> ArrenLex, all i'm saying: there's a good reason most *professional* linux applications: e.g. Firefox/MySQL Query Browser are written in GTK
[06:29] <oga> Arrenlex sorry it's all good i got it working, thanks for your help (i used for file in `ls` ; do pdfnup $file ; done)
[06:29] <ArrenLex> Oh. Wait, that's stupid. Ignore me.
[06:29] <fdsd> ArrenLex, cool, I just dont want to type each one:)
[06:30] <jazzrocker> ArrenLex, also, GTK+ is *free*
[06:30] <wastrel> for i in `cat list`; do sudo apt-get remove --purge "$i" ; done
[06:30] <zack_> how do i get the system monitoring thing i see on the side of most kde desktops? with cpu monitors and etc.
[06:30] <ArrenLex> This is a hacky way too. "var=`cat <yourfile>` && apt-get remove --purge $var"
[06:30] <juztin> !frostwire
[06:30] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:30] <fdsd> wastrel, thanks
[06:30] <jazzrocker> juztin, mldonkey > frostwire
[06:30] <ArrenLex> "var=`cat <yourfile>` && apt-get remove --purge -y $var" actually.
[06:30] <ArrenLex> Again, if someone suggests an actual way to do this properly, please.
[06:30] <juztin> jazzrocker, yeah?  does it download from limewire's sources?
[06:31] <jazzrocker> juztin, limewire is not a source. limewire is a gnutella client. frostwire is also a gnutella client. there are *lots* of gnutella clients
[06:31] <ArrenLex> @zack, on KDE it's typically superkaramba.
[06:31] <juztin> jazzrocker, is mldonkey a gnutella client?
[06:31] <ludedeeds> anyone know how to install directx 9 august or april release in wine? am getting cryptographic services errors
[06:31] <zack_> whats the name of the KDE system monitoring program that i see on most screen shots thats to the side
[06:31] <jazzrocker> juztin, and yes, Gnutella and Gnutella 2 are just a couple of the many networks mldonkey can connect to
[06:31] <juztin> jazzrocker, is it java?
[06:32] <jazzrocker> juztin, no mldonkey is an open/modular client with support for *many* networks, including bittorrent and edonkey, not just gnutella
[06:32] <mad_man> I'm getting better working with this ubuntu. The printer is a scources of anger for sure
[06:32] <jazzrocker> juztin, no it's not written with Java, you must compile it
[06:32] <jazzrocker> juztin, the mldonkey-server package on Ubuntu is broken right now :(
[06:32] <ArrenLex> wastrel: your way is the recursion I wanted to avoid.
[06:32] <zack_> is karamba what im thinking of?
[06:32] <juztin> jazzrocker, sweet....i'll check it out, thanks for the tip :)
[06:32] <juztin> jazzrocker, should i just download and compile from the website then
[06:32] <jazzrocker> juztin, probably yeah
[06:32] <mad_man> printing using ubuntu=anger
[06:32] <bl4cktone> Nevermind guys I found a way to do it
[06:32] <juztin> jazzrocker, k, thanks again
[06:33] <jazzrocker> juztin, you'll need objective caml
[06:33] <wastrel> recursion?
[06:33] <juztin> jazzrocker, what's that?
[06:33] <jazzrocker> f(recursion) = recursion * f(recursion);
[06:33] <ArrenLex> Yes. You have to run 'apt-get remove' for every line separately your way. It's more efficient to combine them into a block and remove them all in one command.
[06:35] <jazzrocker> juztin, sudo apt-get install build-essential ocaml ocaml-native-compilers liblablgtk2-ocaml-dev liblablgtk2-gnome-ocaml-dev
[06:35] <jazzrocker> juztin, i'm fairly sure that should install all the needed deps for compiling mldonkey
[06:35] <jazzrocker> juztin, otherwise ./configure and dist/Install.txt will tell you what you need/are missing
[06:36] <juztin> jazzrocker, that string of installs gave me an error
[06:36] <jazzrocker> juztin, what error
[06:36] <ArrenLex> juztin, a note: if ./configure tells you that you're missing a package, what you want is the -dev version of the package. If you're compiling.
[06:36] <juztin> jazzrocker, Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[06:36] <juztin> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[06:36] <juztin> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[06:36] <juztin> or been moved out of Incoming.
[06:36] <juztin> ack, sorry
[06:36] <juztin> (please everyone don't message me about pastebin, i know...i meant to have that all on one line)
[06:37] <jazzrocker> juztin, uhhh, then open up synaptic and look for those packages by hand and try to install them. do you have the universe/multiverse repos enabled?
[06:37] <juztin> jazzrocker, i thought i did, but this is a clean install i just did...so i might have left something out
[06:37] <jazzrocker> juztin, sudo apt-get install build-essential <- you need at least that
[06:37] <jazzrocker> !universe
[06:37] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:37] <jazzrocker> !multiverse
[06:38] <jazzrocker> juztin, you should go enable universe/multiverse/non-free and then hit "reload" in synaptic
[06:38] <juztin> hmm, i think the mldonkey site is down
[06:38] <juztin> or not...
[06:38] <juztin> nvm
[06:38] <jazzrocker> juztin, http://mldonkey.sourceforge.net/Main_Page
[06:39] <jazzrocker> juztin, donkey is one of those things that's like Heinz ketchup. It's worth waiting for.
[06:39] <Slynderdale> "Linux Hackers Offered Early Access to Next-Gen DVR" http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/09/20/1851240
[06:39] <juztin> jazzrocker, just got build-essential
[06:39] <jazzrocker> juztin, ok now try sudo apt-get install ocaml
[06:39] <juztin> jazzrocker, getting
[06:40] <Another_User> What can you do if ubuntu freezes, other than hard boot?
[06:40] <jazzrocker> juztin, sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[06:40] <jazzrocker> Another_User, submit a bug report?
[06:41] <jazzrocker> Another_User, define "freeze" ... does your mouse move?
[06:41] <Another_User> nope
[06:41] <Another_User> well, yes
[06:41] <juztin> Another_User, ctrl-alt-backspace to restart x .... sometimes thats an easy way around hard booting
[06:41] <Another_User> Only the mouse responded, not the keyboard
[06:42] <juztin> jazzrocker, libgtk2.0-dev gave me that error
[06:42] <juztin> the one i posted before
[06:43] <ArrenLex> @Another_User, if it is FROZEN frozen, i.e. you can't save it by restarting X, you can still get it to reboot properly by pressing ctrl+sysrq and typing 'r s e i u b'.
[06:43] <jazzrocker> juztin, ahhhh. then you probably don't have the right repos available
[06:43] <ArrenLex> sysrq is the print screen key.
[06:44] <jazzrocker> juztin, open synaptic
[06:44] <ArrenLex> You can remember it as 'raising skinny elephants is utterly boring'.
[06:44] <Another_User> thanks :)
[06:44] <ArrenLex> Basically it sets your keyboard to raw mode, terminates all processes and forces reboot.
[06:44] <juztin> jazzrocker, opened
[06:44] <shxiaoo> #
[06:44] <Another_User> does that method work with windows?
[06:44] <shxiaoo> help
[06:44] <ArrenLex> Sorry. alt+sysrq
[06:45] <ArrenLex> Another_user, no.
[06:45] <ArrenLex> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raising_Skinny_Elephants_Is_Utterly_Boring
[06:45] <jazzrocker> juztin, settings -> repositories
[06:45] <juztin> jazzrocker, done
[06:45] <jazzrocker> juztin, edit the first one on the list, enable universe multiverse and non-free
[06:45] <slavik> are there any BIOS dump/flash tools that I can use?
[06:45] <slavik> maybe even tools to decompress a BIOS?
[06:45] <jazzrocker> close out of there and then hit "reload" on the synaptic browser
[06:46] <juztin> jazzrocker, they were already enabled
[06:46] <jazzrocker> k
[06:46] <jazzrocker> juztin, hit reload
[06:46] <juztin> jazzrocker, done
[06:46] <jazzrocker> k
[06:46] <jazzrocker> click in the right hand window area with the list of packages
[06:46] <jazzrocker> juztin, just start typing "libg....."
[06:46] <slavik> new user?
[06:47] <jazzrocker> juztin, it'll auto search as you type, get to libgtk2.0-dev
[06:47] <jazzrocker> juztin, select it for install
[06:47] <jazzrocker> click apply
[06:47] <slavik> jazzrocker: synaptic auto searches?
[06:47] <DanaG> Are there any styles like what I'm looking for?
[06:47] <DanaG> I like the Clearlooks engine, but want the Human colors.
[06:47] <jazzrocker> slavik, yeah you just start typing what you want to search for
[06:47] <slavik> DanaG: have you checked out gnome-look.org?
[06:47] <DanaG> Nothing quite fits.
[06:47] <slavik> jazzrocker: oh, you mean the list, not the find thingy?
[06:47] <jazzrocker> slavik, it'll "find" in the current list
[06:47] <slavik> DanaG: whatcha looking for?
[06:48] <slavik> gotcha
[06:48] <juztin> jazzrocker, got this window : Could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade : The following packages have unresolvable dependencies ...
[06:48] <jazzrocker> slavik, no i mean the find, not the search thingy :)
[06:48] <timpino> hi everybody!!
[06:48] <DanaG> Legacy-human style, clearlooks windeco, current orange human colors.
[06:48] <jazzrocker> juztin, ok please pastebin the output of that error message
[06:48] <Splintah> its funny how after you have used linux and started to appreciate all its nuances that you could never possibly think of switching back to windows
[06:48] <slavik> DanaG: why not just use the Human style?
[06:48] <wastrel> gord!
[06:48] <jiSh> sleeptime goodnight.
[06:48] <juztin> jazzrocker, http://pastebin.ulteo.us/120
[06:48] <DanaG> I want a change from the shinyness .
[06:49] <slavik> Splintah: I always complain in the office how difficult it is to do stuff in windows ... although samba configuration is really messed up and I am not even talking about active directory
[06:49] <slavik> DanaG: to something more subtle and easy on the eyes?
[06:49] <DanaG> Yeah.
[06:49] <jazzrocker> juztin, have you done a system update recently?
[06:49] <ludedeeds> does anyone know how to set wine to run as strictly windows 98 or 2000 mode so that directx install doesn't check for cryptographic services?
[06:49] <wastrel> what's shiny now?
[06:49] <Splintah> yea samba is kinda unnecessarily difficult to get working
[06:49] <jazzrocker> juztin, that's rather odd and unfortunate. it seems like a package bug in ubuntu
[06:50] <ArrenLex> @lude, use winecfg and set it to win98.
[06:50] <jazzrocker> juztin, i installed my GTK a while ago and had no problems so...
[06:50] <slavik> kinda sad that d3a is not on gnome-look anymore :(
[06:50] <juztin> jazzrocker, possibly...i did a clean install with a live cd, installed kubuntu-desktop, and did a complete update with adept
[06:50] <jazzrocker> juztin, yeah well obviously something got borked.
[06:50] <slavik> DanaG: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=45896
[06:50] <DanaG> Xgl has won me over completely.  It just FEEEEELS nice.
[06:50] <jazzrocker> juztin, my guess is the kubuntu-desktop is what did it lol
[06:51] <juztin> jazzrocker, is it fixable? :P
[06:51] <slavik> DanaG: speak for yourself, I have an ATI card :(
[06:51] <jazzrocker> juztin, or rather it probably was the combination of the kubuntu install plus the update
[06:51] <amicrawle> guys my res a 640x480 and will not let me change it how to fix it ?
[06:51] <slavik> amicrawle: what video card do you have?
[06:51] <jazzrocker> juztin, KDE obviously only cares about itself and it went and upgraded a package willy nilly without regards to whether GNOME/GTK might need it
[06:51] <amicrawle> nvidia fx 6400 256mb
[06:51] <DanaG> slavik: what card?
[06:51] <jazzrocker> juztin, yet more support for my thesis that KDE sucks :P
[06:51] <DanaG> Go 7600 for me.
[06:51] <slavik> DanaG: ATI
[06:51] <juztin> jazzrocker, i'm kinda partial to kde myself :P
[06:52] <slavik> ie: no AIGLX support in their driver
[06:52] <jazzrocker> juztin, i'm sure there is but i could only take at best a wild (though educated) guess as to how to fix it
[06:52] <slavik> amicrawle: you need to install the nvidia driver
[06:52] <slavik> !nv
[06:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:52] <amicrawle> i did
[06:52] <slavik> there ya go :)
[06:52] <slavik> did you reboot and such?
[06:52] <amicrawle> i ran beta emulator
[06:52] <amicrawle> and it set it to 600x400
[06:52] <slavik> do you have direct rendering?
[06:52] <jazzrocker> juztin, i would be partial to KDE if it *worked*, was based on a free widget set, was compatible and stable, and didn't segfault on me all over the place
[06:53] <amicrawle> and i can not get any more then that
[06:53] <DanaG> NV has no aiglx either.
[06:53] <slavik> DanaG: teh sux :(
[06:53] <DanaG> Heck, they were late with Xorg 7.1
[06:53] <ArrenLex> jazzrocker, it IS a free widget set to develop free programs. It is both compatible and stable. It doesn't segfault.
[06:53] <DanaG> ATI beat them to that one.
[06:53] <jazzrocker> juztin, visually KDE > GNOME so far as I've come across and Konqeror is better, but alas KDE doesn't integrate well (if at all)
[06:53] <ArrenLex> Just because something weird happened to YOU doesn't mean KDE is bad.
[06:53] <amicrawle> do i need to reinstall it
[06:53] <jazzrocker> ArrenLex, it *does* segfault
[06:53] <slavik> amicrawle: no
[06:53] <DanaG> I've found it to be the other way:
[06:53] <ArrenLex> I've never had it segfault.
[06:53] <jazzrocker> ArrenLex, no it segfaults a LOT and i'm definitely not the only person to say that
[06:53] <slavik> amicrawle: do 'glxinfo | grep direct' for me please
[06:53] <amicrawle> what to do ? what to do ?
[06:53] <myatthu> amicrawle, try glxinfo | grep direct
[06:53] <DanaG> Gnome stuff works better in KDE than KDE stuff does in Gnome, thanks to gtk-qt-engine.
[06:53] <myatthu> oh
[06:53] <jazzrocker> ArrenLex, i have had KDE segfault so many times it's not funny
[06:53] <myatthu> lol
[06:53] <juztin> jazzrocker, i just have better performance from kde
[06:53] <slavik> amicrawle: step 1. relax man :)
[06:54] <DanaG> But many KDE themes I've tried just don't feel right.
[06:54] <bur[n] er> amarok works just fine in gnome
[06:54] <jazzrocker> DanaG, hahaha, "works better" ... lol you mean "looks nicer" ?
[06:54] <jazzrocker> DanaG, and "runs slower" ? yeah sure
[06:54] <ArrenLex> jazzrocker, I'm not disputing that. But it's not KDE's problem if not everyone has the issue.
[06:54] <ArrenLex> It's yours. Something somewhere on YOUR PARTICULAR SYSTEM is screwed up.
[06:54] <jazzrocker> ArrenLex, or is it? i've *never* had the issue with gnome. ever
[06:54] <slavik> DanaG: I suggest looking for d3a
[06:54] <bur[n] er> it'd be nice if kde apps had tango icon theme
[06:54] <amicrawle> say yes
[06:54] <slavik> amicrawle: good
[06:54] <DanaG> There's now a Human icon theme for KDE.
[06:54] <ArrenLex> DanaG, personally I use lipstik with lipstik-white colours. I love it.
[06:55] <amicrawle> what to do ? what to do ?
[06:55] <DanaG> You're right, I meant "looks better".
[06:55] <jazzrocker> ArrenLex, no i'm not the only one man. and it's been happening for the past many years over the course of three different well built systems with *very* standard compatible supported hardware
[06:55] <ArrenLex> My friend can't use MSN because it crashes her computer. She can use AIM.
[06:55] <DanaG> We just need a matching KDE theme.
[06:55] <ArrenLex> Does that mean that MSN is a bad program? No! I use it all the time and it works great.
[06:55] <slavik> amicrawle: do 'sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[06:55] <jazzrocker> ArrenLex, i guarantee it's not "just my system" as evidenced by OTHER KDE USERS have confirmed the KDE segfaults a LOT
[06:55] <ArrenLex> Whereas AIM is BADLY DESIGNED. Ugly.
[06:55] <DanaG> MSN used to crash my router -- until I upgraded the firmware.
[06:55] <dbernar1> Hi. I have an issue with my packaging system not being able to remove a package. Please look at this page if you think you could help: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24180
[06:55] <slavik> ArrenLex: use Gaim :)
[06:55] <ArrenLex> I do!
[06:55] <DanaG> Correction: Me on AIM through Gaim, plus Mom on Hotmail through Outlook.
[06:55] <amicrawle> sudo: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: command not found
[06:56] <ArrenLex> Just not on Windows.
[06:56] <ArrenLex> But I'm never in Windows anyway so it doesn't matter.
[06:56] <slavik> oops
[06:56] <dbernar1> amicrawle: it is Xorg
[06:56] <slavik> amicrawle: do 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak'
[06:56] <slavik> no
[06:56] <slavik> it is cp
[06:56] <amicrawle> cp: missing destination file operand after `/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[06:56] <wastrel> kde vs gnome => offtopic :] 
[06:56] <jazzrocker> if i had a nickel for every time KDE segfaulted... well i wouldn't be rich, but i'd certainly have enough to buy a good pizza :P
[06:56] <myatthu> amicrawle, just copy and paste
[06:57] <amicrawle> i di d
[06:57] <ArrenLex> Speaking of GAIM, does anyone else notice that if you set it to send Urgent hint upon new message (blink toolbar button), that it often screws up and keeps blinking after you read the message, or refuses to blink even when a message is sent?
[06:57] <ArrenLex> Every once in a while. Is it just me?
[06:57] <slavik> that command should work
[06:57] <slavik> are you sure you copied everything between quotes?
[06:57] <slavik> Neo8750: pretty :)
[06:57] <dahlstrom> hello everyone
[06:57] <dabaR> Hi. I have an issue with my packaging system not being able to remove a package. Please look at this page if you think you could help: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24180
[06:57] <dahlstrom> I have a rapid question
[06:58] <bur[n] er> dabaR: i looked and have no idea :)
[06:58] <slavik> dabaR: you can force remove it, I think, but I am not an expert
[06:58] <Neo8750> ArrenLex: i have it that it flashes after i send a message and switch window focus
[06:58] <dahlstrom> does anyone know of any way to boot into a 5.10 or 6.06 liveCD into console mode only (no X)
[06:58] <ziro01> yo
[06:58] <amicrawle> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak: No such file or directory
[06:58] <Softly> sup?
[06:58] <cyberfr0g> sup
[06:58] <dabaR> I thought I was in unregged.
[06:58] <jazzrocker> ArrenLex, interesting to note that the main program for *artists* The GIMP is not written with Qt
[06:58] <jazzrocker> ArrenLex, and by the way, Qt is not free
[06:58] <Neo8750> dahlstrom: the alternative cd
[06:58] <kristjin> I am trying to get Totem to play CSS encrypted DVD's and although I have completed a "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh" successfully, it is not working.  Totem still reports "Totem cannot play this type of media (DVD) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handle it."
[06:58] <slavik> wtf? weird
[06:58] <slavik> ok
[06:58] <slavik> do: cd /etc/X11
[06:58] <ArrenLex> QT is not free if you don't develop GPL apps with it.
[06:58] <ArrenLex> I think that's reasonable.
[06:58] <dahlstrom> i was under the impression the alternative was an install CD
[06:59] <amicrawle> ok
[06:59] <DanaG> Ooh:  http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/32314146/
[06:59] <ArrenLex> dahlstrom: I think you might be looking for the 'alternative' cd
[06:59] <DanaG> but d***it, it's for Windows.
[06:59] <slavik> then do: sudo mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup
[06:59] <amicrawle> did
[06:59] <slavik> DanaG: gnome-llok has clearlooks
[06:59] <ArrenLex> What's for Windows, Dana?
[06:59] <slavik> amicrawle: no errors?
[06:59] <DanaG> Not orange, I believe.
[06:59] <amicrawle> nope
[06:59] <cyberfr0g> secret
[06:59] <ziro01> confidential
[06:59] <Softly> fun
[07:00] <dahlstrom> hmm
[07:00] <slavik> amicrawle: good, now do: gksudo gedit xorg.conf
[07:00] <amicrawle> ok
[07:00] <amicrawle> there is nothing
[07:00] <kristjin> Can nobody help me with DVD playback in Totem?
[07:01] <amicrawle> GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[07:01] <amicrawle> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[07:01] <jazzrocker> kaffeine is nice
[07:01] <slavik> amicrawle: before we edit the file, in case it doesn't work, you will have to use the console to go the the /etc/X11 directory and move the backup file to the original place (sudo cp xorg.conf.backup xorg.conf) write this down if you need to
[07:01] <slavik> amicrawle: the use sudo instead of gksudo
[07:01] <dabaR> kristjin: have you read the ubotu factoid on dvd?
[07:02] <amicrawle> cp: cannot stat `xorg.conf.backup': No such file or directory
[07:02] <jazzrocker> !restricted > kristjin
[07:02] <kristjin> Don't think I've run across that yet.  Sounds like a gem.  Can you point me, please?
[07:02] <ludedeeds> ... where the hell are the xlibs? they aren't on the repos.. but they're required for cedega
[07:02] <slavik> amicrawle: good, now do: sudo gedit xorg.conf
[07:02] <ArrenLex> amicrawle: have you configured X at all? I'm getting the vibe that xorg.conf does not exist for you.
[07:02] <jazzrocker> ludedeeds, uhhh, the x dev libs are indeed in the repos iirc. you need them for libgtk-dev
[07:02] <amicrawle> ok nothing is on it
[07:02] <amicrawle> to edit
[07:03] <jazzrocker> ludedeeds, did you enable universe/reload ?
[07:03] <slavik> I see
[07:03] <wastrel> ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:03] <slavik> amicrawle: did you use the desktop install or what?
[07:03] <ludedeeds> i have all repos enabled
[07:03] <amicrawle> yes  dapper
[07:03] <ludedeeds> except source repositories
[07:03] <kristjin> thx
[07:03] <Peregrino> Hi all!
[07:03] <slavik> and the xorg.conf file is empty?
[07:03] <ludedeeds> and i have xlibs-dev installed already
[07:03] <ludedeeds> but when i try to run the cedega install deb
[07:04] <amicrawle> yes it is
[07:04] <ludedeeds> it says...
[07:04] <slavik> are you sure you ran sudo gedit xorg.conf while you were in the /etc/X11 directory (case matters)
[07:04] <slavik> X11 is not same as x11
[07:04] <Peregrino> Can anyone help me with boot scripts?
[07:04] <ludedeeds> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: xlibs
[07:05] <Samuli^> amicrawle, try: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf && sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:05] <jazzrocker> ludedeeds, did you sudo apt-get install libx11-dev ?
[07:05] <flipfone> i have a question. i just ripped a cd with sound juicer then load the flac files to amarok. i get this error: Error Loading Media
[07:05] <flipfone> No suitable input plugin. This often means that the url's protocol is not supported.
[07:05] <flipfone> show:collectionSetup
[07:05] <Peregrino> I'm kinda noob with this linux thing, but eager to lern ^__^
[07:05] <Peregrino> *learn
[07:05] <amicrawle> ok got some were
[07:05] <jazzrocker> ludedeeds, did you google for "cedega ubuntu" yet?
[07:05] <ludedeeds> no
[07:05] <subpar> Peregrino: you'd be surprised how many of us are :)
[07:06] <slavik> hmm, you moved the file instead of copying
[07:06] <jazzrocker> Peregrino, what do you need to know?
[07:06] <slavik> amicrawle: scroll all the way down
[07:06] <rody> hi
[07:06] <amicrawle> did
[07:06] <subpar> does anyone know of a good metronome program?
[07:06] <slavik> amicrawle: just before the very bottom, there is a section with resolutions and such
[07:06] <rody> how i install e17 on ubuntu
[07:06] <slavik> paste that section into pastebin
[07:06] <ludedeeds> libx11-dev is also installed
[07:06] <rody> i can find no repo for install
[07:06] <Peregrino> Subpar: I want to make linux to run certain commands at boot time
[07:06] <ArrenLex> @subpar: apt-cache search is your friend.
[07:06] <slavik> rody: carefully ;)
[07:06] <amicrawle> Section "Screen"
[07:06] <amicrawle>   Identifier "Default Screen"
[07:06] <amicrawle>   Device "NVIDIA Corporation NV36.4 [GeForce FX 5700VE] "
[07:06] <amicrawle>   Monitor "StudioDsply1"
[07:06] <amicrawle>   DefaultDepth 24
[07:06] <amicrawle>   SubSection "Display"
[07:06] <jazzrocker> ludedeeds, so google for "cedega ubuntu"
[07:06] <amicrawle>     depth 24
[07:06] <amicrawle>     modes "1280x960@60" "1280x1024@60" "1400x1050@60" "1600x1200@60"
[07:06] <ArrenLex> apt-cache search metronome : gtick - Metronome application
[07:06] <amicrawle>   EndSubSection
[07:06] <myatthu> stop
[07:06] <jazzrocker> amicrawle, don't paste in here
[07:06] <amicrawle> EndSection
[07:06] <subpar> ahhhh
[07:06] <amicrawle> that what i have
[07:06] <slavik> oh p00p
[07:07] <myatthu> !paste
[07:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:07] <slavik> my fault
[07:07] <rody> sladen, ?
[07:07] <Peregrino> jazzrocker: I want to make linux to run certain commands at boot time
[07:07] <subpar> ArrenLex: indeed it is, except gtick doesn't work very well, and that's all it comes back with :)
[07:07] <jazzrocker> Peregrino, such as what.
[07:07] <slavik> rody: e17 is alpha/beta and will NEVER be in dapper through repos
[07:07] <mabus> What do I need to do to have my ssh connectable from another computer?
[07:07] <amicrawle> slavik now what
[07:07] <jazzrocker> rody, if you want enlightenment don't use ubuntu, go get e-live
[07:08] <slavik> amicrawle: what resolution do you want?
[07:08] <Peregrino> Mhh, I want to configure my IP settings and make a symbolic link
[07:08] <mabus> I forwarded the port on my router but it didn't seem to work/help
[07:08] <jazzrocker> mabus, start the SSH daemon
[07:08] <rody> sladen, thanks for help
[07:08] <jazzrocker> mabus, sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[07:08] <amicrawle> 1280x960@60
[07:08] <wastrel> mabus:  can you ssh localhost on that system?
[07:08] <jazzrocker> mabus, sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start <- sorry the "d" is important
[07:08] <Peregrino> jazzrocker: Mhh, I want to configure my IP settings and make a symbolic link
[07:08] <ludedeeds> will look.. but nearly all of them are just walkthroughs to use cedegacvs
[07:08] <slavik> then you should be able to select it ...
[07:08] <Another_User> i accidently have amarok playing one song to the next without allowing the song to play.  i'm unable to right click or use any shift, ctrl, alt keys.  any help to stop amarok
[07:08] <amicrawle> ok
[07:08] <ludedeeds> which i'd like to not have to use
[07:08] <Cyberjames> hi, anybody knows of any good software for internet cafe management? thanks
[07:08] <jazzrocker> Peregrino, what does making a symbolic link have anything to do with configuring your IP?
[07:09] <jazzrocker> Cyberjames, what do you want to manage
[07:09] <amicrawle> nope
[07:09] <jazzrocker> Cyberjames, linux is a perfect OS for that sort of thing
[07:09] <Peregrino> jazzrocker: these are two separate things.
[07:09] <amicrawle> still stuck on 630x480
[07:09] <slavik> amicrawle: if not, try restarting the X server (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace) and then you should be able to get the resolution you want
[07:09] <myatthu> Another_User, ps aux | grep amarok and then kill the amarok pid
[07:09] <wastrel> Cyberjames:  maybe the ltsp stuff on edubuntu - lots of control of the terminals ...
[07:09] <ArrenLex> Another_User, just run killall amarok
[07:10] <jazzrocker> Peregrino, well configuring your IP is not done via "startup scripts" it's done via Main Menu -> System -> Administration -> Networking
[07:10] <wastrel> ah there's also that kiosk stuff
[07:10] <Peregrino> jazzrocker: One is for a SSL/TLC package (the link) and the other is just that, setting my IP values
[07:10] <amicrawle> do i need to reset x now
[07:10] <slavik> yes
[07:10] <amicrawle> what did we do
[07:10] <jazzrocker> Peregrino, uhhh and why do you need this magical link?
[07:10] <jazzrocker> amicrawle, CTRL-ALT-Backspace
[07:10] <amicrawle> in all that typying cp and all that
[07:10] <Peregrino> jazzrocker: It's thet I'm Using Slax in an USB Stick >_<
[07:10] <slavik> amicrawle: made sure you had the resolution you wanted for X to use and made a backup of the config file :)
[07:10] <jazzrocker> i don't know what slax is
[07:11] <Peregrino> jazzrocker: So each time I boot, I have to edit that manually
[07:11] <ArrenLex> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slax
[07:11] <slavik> p00p
[07:11] <slavik> oh well, I need sleep
[07:11] <slavik> night all
[07:11] <Peregrino> Minimal Slackware distro
[07:11] <jazzrocker> ah
[07:12] <Peregrino> So I was wondering for some magic script or something to make that changes moer "permanent"
[07:12] <jazzrocker> so what does your USB stick with Slax have to do with Ubuntu? and why are you under the impression that you need to modify the startup scripts
[07:12] <ArrenLex> Well, I'm gonna go. Hope I didn't screw anyone over with my stupid advice too badly!
[07:12] <ArrenLex> See you.
[07:12] <wastrel> slax eh
[07:12] <Anubuntu> hello
[07:13] <Peregrino> jazzrocker: 1) Here is a great communnity of friendly linux users 2) I'm A completely noob and wanted to know what to edit XD
[07:13] <Anubuntu> can anyone tell me how to find out my computers MAC adress with ubuntu?
[07:13] <surface> Anubuntu ifconfig
[07:13] <Another_User> CTRL+ALT+Backspace finally worked
[07:13] <jazzrocker> Peregrino, so why not ask #slackware
[07:13] <Another_User> It got so bad, I was unable to type
[07:13] <Neo8750> fconfig
[07:13] <jerware> does ubuntu make a decent server for the corporate world ?
[07:13] <Neo8750>  ifconfig
[07:13] <jazzrocker> Anubuntu, the networking panel will tel lyou
[07:14] <surface> Anubuntu ifconfig | grep HWaddr
[07:14] <Neo8750> surface: the moment i get it typed and goto hit enter you already have it
[07:14] <jtkiefer> jerwere, I don't see why not, it's flexible, and powerful
[07:15] <surface> Neo8750:  ha, thats okay.
[07:15] <jtkiefer> and with the right packages installed it can be used for pretty much any purpose
[07:15] <DanaG> What's up with this:  (2-line paste, will wait a moment)
[07:15] <DanaG>  /usr/bin/lesspipe: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
[07:15] <DanaG>  bash: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
[07:15] <Neo8750> do you have fork installed?
[07:15] <DanaG> Nothing new will open.
[07:15] <surface> DanaG, need to restart ur server.
[07:15] <wastrel> process table full?  filesystem full?
[07:16] <DanaG> How can I tell which it is?
[07:16] <ludedeeds> jazzrocker: so now i have to use alien to convert the deb to a tgz then back to a deb.. how annoying =(
[07:16] <DanaG> Hmm, amarok seemed leaky, or something.
[07:17] <surface> DanaG:  its either out of mem or some serious hardware failure
[07:17] <surface> DanaG:  try xmms then
[07:17] <DanaG> Well, I have a gig of RAM, but half is being used as cache.
[07:18] <DanaG> Hmm, "mconf" was eating resources.
[07:18] <jtkiefer> brb
[07:19] <jazzrocker> ludedeeds, ahhh, that's too bad
[07:19] <surface> DanaG:  u can check it out with htop, sort by memory, see who is the bad guy
[07:19] <Another_User> How do I change the driver for a wifi device to the driver that I use with kismet?
[07:19] <Gradius9> sethk, did not get it to work, have to try it another box, before I can conclude it is broke
[07:20] <myatthu> surface, is it htop or top ? cause i don't have htop ..
[07:20] <surface> myatthu:  sudo apt-get install htop if u wish, htop is more interactive top
[07:20] <simplecode> how to use amule?
[07:21] <myatthu> ah i see
[07:21] <anup> hi, i'm trying to use democracy player but my downloaded tvshows won't play. I'm sure that the codecs are installed because i can play them in vlc... anyone have any ideas?
[07:22] <Another_User> How do I change the driver for a wifi device to the driver that I use with kismet?(does this make sense?)
[07:23] <Samuli^> anup, vlc comes with its own codecs.
[07:26] <Another_User> Can someone help me change the driver of my wifi device?
[07:26] <anup> Samuli^: you're right, they won't play in totem.  I thought i had installed all the codecs, do you know how i should instll the correct codecs or where i could go to find out how?
[07:27] <sicuser> help: what is the command to count the number of lines in a file?
[07:27] <wastrel> wc -l
[07:27] <ArrenLex> Ha! How dare you count my lines, scoundrel? En garde!
[07:28] <sicuser> ...
[07:28] <sicuser> thanks wastrek
[07:30] <Gibbonz> wondering if there's something that can fix problems with right click menus sometimes acting screwy, like closing soon as they open...
[07:31] <Samuli^> !restrictedformats > anup
[07:31] <jp82> hi
[07:32] <surface> sicuser:  use apropos to search for command, it helps somehow. or check out www.linuxbyexample.co.nr
[07:32] <anup> thanks
[07:33] <jp82> I am very new to Ubuntu, and Linux in general...and I cannot figure out for the life of me how to get my wireless internet working, or how to install my video card drivers, etc etc
[07:34] <ArrenLex> jp82: what video card do you have? Is your wireless card supported on Linux?
[07:35] <jp82> radeon 9600
[07:35] <jp82> and...I dunno
[07:35] <anup> jp82: i'm not an expert either but go to digg and search "wireless ubuntu" and i there are alot of tutorials, that's how i got mine working
[07:36] <ArrenLex> jp82: I assume that you have 2d working and want 3d?
[07:36] <anup> digg.com that is
[07:36] <Lam_> what option can i add to my video device section under gconf to force my nvidia card to scale images to aspect ratio instead of monitor?  i hate having a 4:3 game stretched horizontally to 16:10
[07:37] <SurfnKid> how can you get a list of packets that are beingg processed in a VT
[07:37] <SurfnKid> real-tie
[07:37] <SurfnKid> s/tie/time
[07:39] <infidel> c
[07:39] <SurfnKid> splitO?
[07:40] <CokeNCode> ok, i updated, and now flash is broken
[07:40] <CokeNCode> what hte heck is going on ? anyone else having this problem ?
[07:40] <jp82> ok, it would appear my wireless card is indeed supported by Linux
[07:40] <ArrenLex> Coke: "broken"?
[07:40] <surface> SurfnKid:  what is VT?
[07:41] <ArrenLex> (23:36:25) ArrenLex: jp82: I assume that you have 2d working and want 3d?
[07:41] <CokeNCode> yeh, ArrenLex , it doesn't seem to be installed anymore
[07:41] <ArrenLex> Well then install Flash again.
[07:41] <SurfnKid> virtual terminal
[07:41] <CokeNCode> what's the latest version available for linux ?
[07:41] <ArrenLex> 7.
[07:41] <CokeNCode> and what broke the installation in the first place
[07:41] <Fraj^Sleep> hi
[07:41] <nostrada> quick question. I have a X/Windows session into my Dapper server and can start xterm from my laptop OK. Is there a way to have the complete desktop redirected to my machine? (With the menu at the top, applications/preferences and so on)
[07:41] <Fraj^Sleep> iv downloaded a new login screen
[07:41] <Fraj^Sleep> how do i install it?
[07:42] <SurfnKid> brb
[07:42] <surface> nostrada, vnc , nx or ssh can do tat
[07:43] <nostrada> surface, does it matter that I do not have a screen connected to my machine?
[07:43] <myatthu> Fraj^Sleep, system->admin->login windows
[07:43] <surface> nostrada:  it doesn't matter
[07:43] <nostrada> and I guess I would need to install a vnc server on ubuntu first, right?
[07:43] <surface> nostrada:  my fren use vnc, his computer have no monitor, and he connect through his notebook
[07:44] <surface> nostrada:  yup
[07:44] <nostrada> but you are correct, vnc would be a good solution, much easier than running a complete X/Windows server
[07:44] <nostrada> thanks surface
[07:44] <surface> nostrada:  welcome
[07:44] <Lam_> is there a way to edit xorg.conf to force my nvidia card to scale things like games to aspect ratio instead of monitor ratio?
[07:45] <myatthu> Fraj^Sleep, managed to change the login screen ?
[07:46] <Fraj> not yet
[07:46] <Fraj> thanks
[07:46] <Fraj> :)
[07:46] <yusufm> I have a question about packages like apache2. How do I know where things get installed and where the config files are?
[07:46] <TeePOG> morning all
[07:47] <ArrenLex> yusfm: if you want to know without installing the package, look it up on packages.ubuntu.com and check the file list for your architecture.
[07:47] <noiesmo> yusufm, the config files end up in /etc/apache2
[07:48] <dfgas_> anyone good with samba here?
[07:48] <dfgas_> samba server
[07:48] <andaraone> can anyone help me with setting up a wireless network connection
[07:48] <noiesmo> dfgas_, I have one whats your Q
[07:49] <ArrenLex> yusfm: if you've already installed the package, find it in /var/cache/apt/archives and run "dpkg-deb -c" on it, which will list contents.
[07:49] <yusufm> noisemo, is all this infomaiton stored somewhere or do we need to track it down each time?
[07:49] <dfgas_> noiesmo,    i  lost my samba, it shows its running but no one can connect to it anymore. i was coping a file over and it just died
[07:49] <noiesmo> yusufm, the main config files like sites avail and sits enable and httpd.conf are in /etc/apache2
[07:50] <dfgas_> noiesmo,  i have restarted it several times and also tried stoping it and restarting it
[07:50] <CokeNCode> drat ... flash website down for maintenance
[07:50] <CokeNCode> i'm stuck without it
[07:51] <dfgas_> noiesmo, the only thing i haven't tried is a total system reboot
[07:51] <noiesmo> dfgas_, maybe try adding a new user and password with smbpasswd
[07:51] <dfgas_> noiesmo, is share access
[07:51] <noiesmo> dfgas_, also check firewall iptables make sure its not got blocked for some reason
[07:52] <dfgas_> noiesmo, no software firewall
[07:53] <dfgas_> maybe vmware windowsxp is affecting it
[07:54] <noiesmo> dfgas_, not sure dont use vmware
[07:54] <dfgas_> i shut it down and checking now
[07:55] <dfgas_> is there way to get samba to start up in debug mode?
[07:57] <noiesmo> dfgas_, whats in the /var/log/samba/
[07:57] <dfgas_> a ton of log files
[07:58] <dfgas_> [2006/09/21 00:51:20, 0]  lib/util_sock.c:get_peer_addr(1225)
[07:58] <dfgas_>   getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected
[07:58] <dfgas_> any idea on that?
[07:59] <exs> Hello. How do I set CTRL + ALT + DELETE as the shortcut for system monitor?
[07:59] <noiesmo> dfgas_, google is your friend check this http://www.linuxaa.com/ftopic6568.html havent read but
[08:01] <noiesmo> exs, check System > Preferences > keyboard > Layout Options >
[08:01] <noiesmo> exs, not 100% but start point
[08:02] <Another_User> @exs, the answer to your question is at http://ubuntuguide.org/
[08:02] <noiesmo> dfgas_, this looks interesting also http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2004-April/084048.html
[08:03] <AbortD> !sdl
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <dfgas_> this is weird, it seems it is working again
[08:03] <dfgas_> but i am looking up the error
[08:03] <noiesmo> dfgas_, ghosts in the machine :)
[08:03] <dfgas_> lol
[08:04] <infidel> anyone using the 2.6.18 kernel?
[08:05] <jrsims> So. Anyone running irssi?
[08:05] <jrsims> I've installed it, but as people chat, I can only see like 1 line updating (scrolling) with the new text.
[08:05] <AbortD> maybe its a sign?
[08:06] <jrsims> I have no clue what would cause that
[08:06] <jrsims> it's always worked out of the box, everytime
[08:06] <jrsims> but not this time
[08:06] <wastrel> what terminal are you using?
[08:06] <jrsims> so I'm in xchat now (which is icky)
[08:06] <jrsims> Gnome terminal
[08:07] <TeePOG> that was for other server, sorry
[08:09] <Byan> uhm, I am trying to complie something.. I've never actually done that before..
[08:10] <Byan> and when I do ./configure it says that my makeinfo is missing and that my C compiler cannot creat executables
[08:10] <Madpilot> Byan, what're you trying to compile?
[08:10] <Byan> opendchub
[08:10] <Flannel> Byan: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:11] <Flannel> Byan: however, openbdchub is in the repositories, you sure you need to compile your own?
[08:11] <Madpilot> !info openbdchub
[08:11] <ubotu> Package openbdchub does not exist in any distro I know
[08:11] <Madpilot> hmm
[08:11] <Flannel> !info opendchub
[08:11] <Flannel> no b
[08:11] <ubotu> opendchub: DC (Direct Connect P2P network) hub clone. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.14-1.2 (dapper), package size 89 kB, installed size 280 kB
[08:11] <Madpilot> ah, my bad
[08:11] <Flannel> just mash your keyboard, it'll work itself out
[08:13] <Byan> hmmm
[08:13] <Madpilot> Byan, do you have Universe repo enabled?
[08:13] <Byan> Flannel: I did not know that
[08:13] <Byan> for some reason I didn't think it would be
[08:13] <Byan> Madpilot: no idea
[08:13] <Flannel> that's a no.
[08:13] <Flannel> !universe
[08:13] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:13] <Madpilot> Byan, it's not enabled by default, so no, you don't
[08:13] <Flannel> see the second link
[08:14] <RagePrblm> Can someone help me with something called Totem
[08:14] <Madpilot> Byan, there's something like 16,000 packages in Universe (give or take a few thousand) - **everything** is in there ;)
[08:14] <Madpilot> RagePrblm, what's the problem?
[08:15] <RagePrblm> I just installed Ubuntu, and I ran all the updates and now the sound doesnt work, it says Totem didnt start and it cannot establish a connection the the sound server
[08:15] <thenetduck> does anyone know how to edit a grub boot loader?
[08:16] <thenetduck> can't find where to do this
[08:16] <RagePrblm> A guy told me to switch to xfce to use their media player but now that im in xfce it doesnt work either for the sound
[08:16] <Madpilot> RagePrblm, did sound work when you first installed, before you did the updates?
[08:16] <Flannel> thenetduck: you mean the menu? /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:16] <noiesmo> thenetduck, /boot/grub/menu.1st
[08:16] <RagePrblm> Madpilot yes it did
[08:16] <Madpilot> RagePrblm, odd. Do you remember what updates there were? (Lots, I'm guessing...)
[08:16] <RagePrblm> 176 updates :\
[08:16] <Flannel> noiesmo: no 1, l (as in list)
[08:17] <noiesmo> Flannel, oops my bad :(
[08:17] <noiesmo> sorry abuout that
[08:17] <thenetduck> Flannel : I installed Dreamlinux on one of my hard drives and don't want it anymore, but it installed GRUB on the MBR so I want to go back to the to just auto booting into my Xubuntu partition
[08:17] <RagePrblm> Another dude told me to run a command, which showed what audio devices nd drivers were installed, and I recognized the intel one as the one nvidia said should work for the Nforce 2 boards
[08:18] <thenetduck> Flannel do you know how to fix this?
[08:18] <Flannel> thenetduck: You want DreamLinux to still be available, just change the default? or...
[08:18] <AbortD> what do i need to compile code?
[08:18] <Byan> so, what am I doing at this link?
[08:18] <thenetduck> Flannel: i want to format Dreamlinux and just have it default boot into my Xubuntu partition
[08:18] <Flannel> Byan: you're enabling universe
[08:18] <Madpilot> Byan, you're enabling the Universe repository
[08:19] <Flannel> thenetduck: alright, so, just remove the Dreamlinux entries in your grub menu, and then you'll reformat it's partitions
[08:19] <thenetduck> Flannel: Dreamlinux is on a 40gb hard drive and Xubuntu is on a 160gb hard drive
[08:19] <Madpilot> RagePrblm, sound issues aren't something I'm good at, and they can be tough to track down...
[08:19] <RagePrblm> oh, fair enough - do you know how I can install the ubuntu desktop again
[08:19] <Byan> uh.. how?
[08:19] <Flannel> thenetduck: Youre using dapper or breezy?
[08:19] <thenetduck> Flannel: dapper
[08:19] <AbortD> what do i need to compile code?
[08:19] <RagePrblm> was it like sudo apt-get install-ubuntu or something
[08:19] <Flannel> thenetduck: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:19] <Flannel> thenetduck: pastebin it,
[08:20] <Flannel> !paste
[08:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:20] <wastrel> AbortD:  build-essential
[08:20] <AbortD> thanks forgot what it was called
[08:20] <Madpilot> RagePrblm, ubuntu-desktop, I think
[08:21] <RagePrblm> so the full command would be sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?
[08:21] <Madpilot> Byan, have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[08:21] <Madpilot> RagePrblm, yes
[08:21] <RagePrblm> thank you
[08:21] <Flannel> Byan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[08:22] <thenetduck> Flannel: ok it should be comming up
[08:23] <Flannel> thenetduck: copy the url and paste it here ;)
[08:24] <wept> why is thunderbird stuck at ersion 1.5 in breezy?  is it possible to update it somehow, or am i just screwed until i upgrade to dapper?
[08:24] <thenetduck> Flannel: http://pastebin.com/791041
[08:24] <thenetduck> there ya go
[08:24] <Flannel> wept: it's at 1.5 in breezy?  is there a backports version?
[08:25] <wept> im not sure...i dont have that enabled in my sources cause the warning about no review/security updates scared me ;)
[08:25] <RagePrblm> Does anyone here know how to fix errors with Totem?
[08:25] <Flannel> wept: heh, well, I... thought, it was 1.0.X in breezy, (like firefox), you'd get 1.5 upgrading to dapper.
[08:26] <Flannel> thenetduck: er, this doesn't have DreamLinux on it at all.
[08:26] <wept> it says 1.5, but there have been security releases since then so im stumped
[08:26] <myatthu> RagePrblm, you got to tell us what is the problem with totem first ... then we can tell ya if we know how to fix or not
[08:26] <AbortD> do i need to install SDL before i install guichan?
[08:26] <Byan> Flannel/ Madpilot: thats where I am at..., you sure I don't already have this on here.. I edited my sources file and added some stuff
[08:26] <Flannel> wept: right, the security issues (if it's from the repository) have been rolled in
[08:27] <thenetduck> Flannel: ya i think its using the Grub Boot loader from the Dreamlinux partition
[08:27] <Flannel> Byan: then you might already
[08:27] <Madpilot> Byan, you might, then. Can  you pastebin your sources.list for us to see?
[08:27] <RagePrblm> myatthu: The error I have is that ubuntu says It could not establish a connection to the sound server; "totem could not startup"
[08:27] <Byan> where is it located?
[08:27] <Madpilot> RagePrblm, sound server issues are larger than just Totem
[08:27] <wept> but i mean, there have been security issues since 1.5 ;)  last time it was updated was 2006-02-14
[08:27] <RagePrblm> crap
[08:27] <Flannel> Byan: /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:27] <Madpilot> Byan, /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:27] <mthe> hmm discovered the most <annoying> .. feature ^  ^
[08:27] <wept> i fear upgrading to dapper due to a bug people have been reporting with ati devices which i have
[08:27] <RagePrblm> Well the window said totem could not startup, then it said it couldnt estab the connection to the soundserver
[08:28] <Flannel> thenetduck: so, how are your HDs set up?
[08:28] <Madpilot> RagePrblm, do other sound-using apps work?
[08:28] <RagePrblm> xfmedia does
[08:29] <Madpilot> RagePrblm, what about RhythmBox?
[08:29] <thenetduck> Flannel: one 40gb hard drive (this has Dreamlinux on it with Grub) and one 160gb hard drive (this has Xubuntu and Ubuntu with grub on it)  both hard drives just have one big partition each
[08:29] <AbortD> do i need to install SDL before i install guichan?
[08:29] <Flannel> thenetduck: so, which is primary master?
[08:30] <RagePrblm> It doesnt seem to play with rhythmbox
[08:30] <thenetduck> Flannel: 40gb is the master 160gb is the slave ... but i didn't feel like moving the pin on my hard drive so i just used 160 as primary
[08:30] <thenetduck> Flannel they are both formated as primary
[08:30] <thenetduck> Flannel ext3 I belive.
[08:31] <Muteki> i can't access my ubuntu box on my win xp pro computer it prompts for a password, and it isn't the admin.root.or my usr-pw either. Can anyone help me? m(_ _)m
[08:31] <thenetduck> Flannel: do you think it would be save to just delete my 40gb hard drive partion and see if it will defalut to the MBR on the 160gb hard drive?
[08:31] <Byan> http://pastebin.com/791043
[08:31] <Madpilot> RagePrblm, crimsun is one of our resident sound debugging gurus, but he's away right now, it looks like...
[08:32] <Flannel> thenetduck: that may work.  you really should move them on the cable ;)
[08:32] <Byan> should I uncomment the two lines that end dapper universe?
[08:32] <Flannel> Muteki: samba? or what?
[08:32] <RagePrblm> Alright, I spose I can come back tomorrow or the like, it would be nice if I could just downgrade the offending driver to the original one that ubuntu installed
[08:32] <thenetduck> Flannel: what difference does it make?
[08:32] <Muteki> flannel: yes i have it on SMB, though i thought you had to have samba running to be able to access it. I can't find it on the computer yet i can mess with smb.conf settings
[08:33] <Flannel> thenetduck: primary is... well, first
[08:33] <Flannel> Byan: yes
[08:33] <RagePrblm> Thanks again Madpilot Ill be sure to bother you again if I need more help :) And I will heheh
[08:33] <Flannel> Muteki: you need to set up users in samba,
[08:33] <Flannel> !tell Muteki about samba
[08:33] <Madpilot> RagePrblm, np, good luck.
[08:33] <RagePrblm> :)
[08:59] (mthe/#ubuntu) cobbweb_:  ha then we both know that Flannel was right, ideally make master have the MBR + bootloader = ;)
[09:00] (mark_/#ubuntu) my computer has been crashing constantly and i've tried: 2 full reinstalls and one harddrive wipe, compiling my own 686-smp kernel,and disabling framebuffer
[09:00] (mark_/#ubuntu) nothing has worked so far
[09:00] (mthe/#ubuntu) does it work with live cd? :o
[09:00] (mark_/#ubuntu) but i ran into someone who suggested it might be a problem with gtk (his has been having the same problem
[09:01] (mark_/#ubuntu) and there was a libgtk update just a few moments ago...
[09:01] <mark_> anyone have any ideas?
[09:02] <Flannel> mark_: does it work without a GUI?
[09:05] <drcode> hi all
[09:05] <drcode> is there pdf with screenshot of ubuntu for beginner like 100 pages?
[09:05] <drcode> I read there is some where?
[09:05] <Flannel> drcode: theres the documentation at help.ubuntu.com
[09:05] <KoolJG> greetings all
[09:06] <KoolJG> new to Ubuntu and just tryin to meet, greet & learn
[09:07] <drcode> thnx
[09:07] <Born_In_Xixax> welcome
[09:08] <KoolJG> thnx
[09:09] <KoolJG> can anyone help me with resetting sounds?
[09:10] <mansu> does anyone know whats happening here? http://paste.lisp.org/display/14127.... the problem and status messages are exactly the same (except the card model and /var/log messages)... my card is a davicom card and it refuses to work with mandriva or ubuntu..
[09:10] <mansu> i thought it was a driver issue... bit it looks like more is happening here
[09:12] <cbx33> hi all, anyone know of a problem with dapper and nvidia PCI-E cards, where ubuntu thinks I have an ATI card ?
[09:12] <inglor> just get the new nvidia driver
[09:12] <cbx33> well....xorg said it was an ATI card straight after installation
[09:13] <inglor> ok, just get the new nvidia drivers
[09:13] <inglor> and while you're at it, please file a bug report
[09:14] <cbx33> inglor: well then I installted the nvidia-glx driver and it barffed
[09:16] <tchung> hi, I am having a problem with Synaptic Package Manager
[09:16] <inglor> techung, what problem
[09:16] <inglor> cbx33, what do you mean barffed?
[09:16] <tchung> the proxy setting is not working
[09:16] <inglor> cbx33, which nvidia card do you have
[09:16] <inglor> tchung, did you try setting the proxy in proxy settings rather than synaptics itself, and did you try using apt-get directly?
[09:16] <tchung> should I put in a www proxy into the field?
[09:16] <cbx33> BFG 7300 GS OC
[09:17] <cbx33> sorry 7300 GT OC
[09:17] <tchung> not apt-get
[09:17] <tchung> I will try
[09:17] <inglor> tchung, so apt-get works but synaptics doesn't?
[09:17] <tchung> hmmm.... I am a newbie
[09:18] <RagePrblm> Can anyone help me figure out how to run a terminal command as a Super-User
[09:18] <tchung> so I don't use apt-get much
[09:18] <kihai> Hi everybody! Does anyone happen to know which keyboard shortcut is used at the greeter window of gdm for switching between languages (here: english-german)?
[09:18] <cobbweb_> how do i chane my eth0 to wlan0 ? where is the list located
[09:19] <inglor> cbx33, they have an oc'ed 7300GT today :O? odd, anyhow try the nvidia drivers again I guess
[09:19] <inglor> tchunt, try apt-get install something
[09:19] <inglor> see if it works
[09:19] <cbx33> inglor ;)
[09:19] <cbx33> it was a fresh install
[09:19] <inglor> chobbweb, try typing it in
[09:19] <cbx33> and a new mobo and proc too ;)
[09:19] <inglor> cbx33, new cards are always problematic
[09:19] <meapers> RagePrblm  -- you could just type "su root" then put in your password, you now have a root terminal
[09:20] <RagePrblm> thanks meapers
[09:20] <inglor> meapers, or just type su, it's root by default
[09:20] <cbx33> inglor - yeh unfortunately
[09:20] <tchung> inglor, it seems to me that I can get in touch with the server but it won't let me download anything
[09:20] <RagePrblm> anyone know the default root password for ubuntu
[09:20] <inglor> cbx33, it's why I'm holding out on my newer box, write a letter to the developer team
[09:20] <cobbweb_> Flannel: do you know where the list that names my networking divices is located?
[09:20] <inglor> tchung, did you update your repos?
[09:21] <inglor> since you installed linux?
[09:21] <meapers> inglor thanks!
[09:21] <inglor> cobbweb_, pop a terminal and write ifconfig
[09:21] <tchung> inglor, I think my repos address are up-to-date
[09:21] <inglor> tchung, go to the terminal
[09:21] <cobbweb_> inglor: ok
[09:22] <subpar> are there issues running wine/cedega in amd64? or should I be able to just grab wine/cedega off the repositories
[09:22] <inglor> type "apt-get install frozen-bubble" does it let you?
[09:22] <inglor> subpar, as far as I know you're good to go
[09:22] <inglor> my friend got it working, not sure if out of the box
[09:22] <inglor> I got to go, I bought a new game I want to play, company of heroes
[09:22] <inglor> bye
[09:22] <subpar> inglor: did he have any problems with 32 bit progs?
[09:22] <subpar> lates, thanks for the insight
[09:23] <inglor> subpar, not as I know
[09:23] <cobbweb_> inglor i want to edit the name of my card
[09:23] <RagePrblm> Does anyone know the default password for root in Ubuntu? Im pretty sure I didnt set one
[09:25] <bucky> prolly the same passwd as for the user
[09:25] <RagePrblm> its not :(
[09:26] <bucky> RagePrblm, are you using it with sudo?
[09:26] <bucky> their is basically no root account
[09:26] <RagePrblm> bucky I dont know :| Im just trying to install ati video drivers and it says I need a super user account
[09:26] <RagePrblm> to install em
[09:26] <bucky> use sudo
[09:27] <SatanGolga> use sudo bash
[09:27] <RagePrblm> how do I do it, I just typed sh ati-drivers.blah blah blah
[09:27] <bucky> sudo sh ati-drivers.blah
[09:28] <RagePrblm> oh
[09:28] <RagePrblm> thanks
[09:28] <bucky> Password: youruserspasswd
[09:28] <MM2> I have troubles with timezone. How I can reconfigure it?
[09:29] <RagePrblm> oh mint, thanks bucky, SatanGolga
[09:30] <bucky> MM2, prolly tzconfig
[09:30] <Messi> Hii
[09:31] <cobbweb_> hey does anyone know how to edit the name of a wireless card... it shows up as being eth2 but it should be wlan0
[09:31] <crazy_penguin> Good day all!:)
[09:31] <rem__> Hey I have a question .. when i try to install ubuntu with the "install" icon the window that then opens is too big (I cant go to the "next" button"), it is cze the screen resolution is set to 640x480. I cant change this in X, and in xorg it lists the others 800 and 1024. The graph card and monitor support at least 1024 .. What can I do ??
[09:32] <anmar> Hello guys. is there is a channel for the Ubuntu Live CDs ?
[09:32] <MM2> bucky: ty, it was it
[09:32] <anmar> I wish to use Ubuntu Live CD as the basis of a new project ?
[09:33] <rem__> anyone ?
[09:33] <Deus> lut
[09:33] <Deus> enfin re !
[09:33] <cobbweb_> rem__ try installing it in graphical safe mode
[09:33] <Deus> ...
[09:33] <MikeHawk> hello.  Has anyone upgraded Firefox from 1.0.8?
[09:34] <boink> that's an old version
[09:34] <rem__> wont I have the same prob, since the resolution will be 640 ... and the windows too big again ... ? (btw i cant resize the window to make it small enough either..)
[09:34] <MikeHawk> yes, it's quite old
[09:34] <boink> which ubuntu distro are you using?
[09:34] <MikeHawk> 5.10?
[09:34] <rem__> must be 5.04
[09:34] <MikeHawk> or 5.04
[09:35] <boink> you might want to consider updating to dapper
[09:35] <MikeHawk> one or the other
[09:35] <cobbweb_> rem__ ya you most likely wil... um download the alternant cd from the website and install that one, its all text based
[09:35] <boink> otherwise, you can get the tar ball from the firefox website and use that
[09:35] <rem__> k...well thanx for the answer...its more than what i usually get in here... :P
[09:35] <MikeHawk> I was hoping to use this as an exercise to figure out how to install and upgrade applications
[09:35] <boink> compiling yourself?
[09:35] <boink> or using apt-get
[09:36] <MikeHawk> nope, just download from the mozilla site
[09:36] <MikeHawk> does apt-get work for firefox?
[09:36] <boink> sure
[09:36] <boink> you can update your box as a whole too
[09:36] <MikeHawk> I would consider upgrading to swiftfox if anyone knows how to do that as well
[09:36] <boink> apt-get is a very handy feature
[09:36] <cobbweb_> MikeHawk opera is an awesome browser you should look into it
[09:36] <boink> !easysource
[09:36] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:37] <MikeHawk> cobbweb, thanks for the suggestion.  I will tackle that on another night
[09:37] <boink> !apt-get
[09:37] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[09:37] <MikeHawk> what would the apt-get command be for firefox?
[09:37] <boink> apt-get install firefox to install it
[09:37] <boink> but you have it already installed, maybe
[09:37] <MikeHawk> would that upgrade it?
[09:38] <boink> hmm, depends on what's in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:38] <Arcad3> http://packages.ubuntu.com
[09:38] <MikeHawk> I tried going through synaptic, but it did not detect any upgrades available for firefox
[09:38] <boink> then you may need to upgrade to dapper
[09:38] <boink> you can do that through apt-get too
[09:39] <surface> MikeHawk:  it suppose to be upgraded if available by clicking the update at gnome
[09:39] <MikeHawk> surface.. thanks, I did grab that file
[09:39] <surface> MikeHawk:  then it is not yet
[09:39] <boink> with apt-get it should be fairly easy to upgrade to the latest release
[09:39] <boink> but murphy's law ..
[09:40] <MikeHawk> I grabbed the installation file from the mozilla website, and unzipped to the tmp directory
[09:40] <upshs01> can i connect to your website
[09:40] <MikeHawk> now I'm not sure what to do
[09:40] <boink> sure, that will work fine too
[09:40] <surface> apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[09:40] <upshs01> anybody could help me
[09:40] <boink> sure, just ask
[09:40] <AbortD> how do  i package a file after i make it?
[09:41] <AbortD> from source
[09:41] <boink> !dpkg
[09:41] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[09:41] <AbortD> huh?
[09:41] <MikeHawk> ok, so I tried sudo apt-get upgrade firefox, and I got the error:
[09:41] <upshs01> im using a different os linux i find it hard to manipulate
[09:41] <MikeHawk> Reading package lists... Done
[09:41] <MikeHawk> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:41] <MikeHawk> The following packages have been kept back:
[09:41] <MikeHawk>   hal hal-device-manager libhal-storage1 libhal1 pmount
[09:41] <MikeHawk> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
[09:41] <boink> well, this is #ubuntu :P
[09:42] <boink> so, Mike .. you can't upgrade firefox anymore on your current setup
[09:42] <AbortD> boink how do i do it?
[09:42] <boink> the latest ubuntu is called dapper
[09:42] <MikeHawk> why not?
[09:42] <boink> that's 6.06
[09:42] <boink> because all of the round 10000 packages are a part of each ubuntu distro
[09:43] <MikeHawk> hmm
[09:43] <boink> the latest firefox, as an ubuntu .deb, is available on dapper
[09:43] <MikeHawk> so firefox is expecting some libraries that are only available on the latest release?
[09:43] <upshs01> does anybody have a latest program of linux
[09:43] <boink> maybe not, if you use the tar ball from mozilla.org
[09:43] <lastnode> upshs01, er what do you mean?
[09:43] <lastnode> boink, im sure someone has 1.5 for breezy as well. a deb i mean.
[09:44] <boink> if you don't want to upgrade your ubuntu distro.
[09:44] <upshs01> i cant use our linux its not friendly user
[09:44] <surface> i am using fc5 now, my firefox is 1.5.0.6 so ubuntu should be around 1.5.0.x too
[09:44] <peija-kas> boink - is the 1.5.0.7 firefox out as Deb??
[09:44] <lastnode> sorry MikeHawk, that was for you - but i recoommend you update to dapper
[09:44] <surface> upshs01:  what do u mean?
[09:44] <boink> dunno ... I don't know what's the firefox version on dapper
[09:44] <lastnode> upshs01, well we generally take discussions like that in to #ubuntu-offtopic (too general for this support channel)
[09:44] <MikeHawk> so I expanded the tarball to tmp
[09:44] <luk> Someone knows the .pdg format ? What soft can read that ?
[09:44] <upshs01> what channel
[09:45] <boink> #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:45] <lastnode> upshs01, #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:45] <upshs01> okey got you
[09:45] <AbortD> boink, i got dpkg and dpkg-dev how do i use it?
[09:45] <upshs01> any tutorial
[09:45] <MikeHawk> so I expanded the firefox tarball to the tmp directory.  I see a "firefox-bin",  "updater", and "xpicleanup"  do I run the updater?
[09:46] <surface> upshs01:  linux command example www.linuxbyexample.co.nr
[09:46] <upshs01> thanx boink i hope i can do it alone, im not familiar with this program
[09:46] <boink> AbortD: it's complicated, you would need to read the docs on the debian page
[09:47] <boink> man dpkg is a good start to make a .deb, if that's what you want
[09:47] <peija-kas> upshs01 i can send u a beginners linux book if u want to
[09:47] <peija-kas> private msg me
[09:47] <lastnode> upshs01, if you tell me exactly what is wrong, we can try and help
[09:47] <upshs01> in my email add?
[09:47] <boink> upshs01: what's your native language?
[09:47] <lastnode> upshs01, as in, what your machine is, what distro you're trying to install etc
[09:48] <boink> there are language specific ubuntu help channels too
[09:48] <boink> !pl
[09:48] <upshs01> tagalog
[09:48] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:48] <boink> aaah, ok
[09:48] <AbortD> boink i want something easy
[09:48] <boink> !ph
[09:48] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[09:48] <boink> easy? well ...
[09:48] <AbortD> whats checkinstall?
[09:48] <Healot> !info checkinstall
[09:48] <ubotu> checkinstall: installation tracker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.3-3ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 132 kB
[09:49] <peija-kas> upshs01 do you get my private messages?
[09:49] <clintonc> is anyone else having any trouble with the libglib2.0-0 package?
[09:49] <upshs01> peija-kas pls send me at carlvil_7@yahoo.com thanx a lot
[09:50] <peija-kas> i will
[09:50] <mixelogj> Hello. has anyone successfully compiled kernel 2.6.28 with the queuefreeze patch on a Thinkpad (T43)? The problem I am having is that modules sd_mod and sg are not found, as mkinitrd says
[09:50] <peija-kas> just a few minutes
[09:50] <upshs01> thanx again,
[09:50] <Healot> 2.6.28?
[09:50] <lastnode> mixelogj, are you supposed to compile those modules from source? are you following a howto?
[09:50] <holycow> does anyone know if the vnc viewer started via terminal server client is encrypted?  i'm thinking no ... port forwarding over ssh might do it?
[09:50] <MikeHawk> so I tried to run the Firefox updater from the tarball and it is giving me the following message:
[09:50] <MikeHawk> Usage: updater <dir-path> <parent-pid> [working-dir callback args...] 
[09:50] <MikeHawk>   does anyone know what values I should be giving it?
[09:51] <upshs01> anybody from UP Manila BuddyWorks Team
[09:51] <mixelogj> yup I am following a how to found in ubuntuforums. There is no mention for these modules though, and they are not put in apparently. And yes sorry i Meant 2.6.16.28
[09:51] <mixelogj> I am using the running kernell's config
[09:52] <upshs01> is tina (UPM Telehealth Center) around
[09:52] <clintonc> So, I have a question:  Say that apt wants to install a package, but I already have one of the dependencies.  How do I convince apt to not install the dependency?
[09:53] <lastnode> clintonc, it wont, if you have it.
[09:53] <lastnode> clintonc, unless it's a new version of the file.
[09:53] <llama32> what's a window manager providing things like taskbar, app menu [either automagic like the gnome/kde ones or GUI editable]  and system tray other than XFCE/Gnome/KDE?
[09:53] <lastnode> mixelogj, you're using old config?
[09:53] <clintonc> lastnode:  Say I have it, but not through apt.
[09:53] <clintonc> configured just how I like it
[09:54] <mixelogj> I copied .config from 2.6.15 and modified it in some stuff, as well as answered all the questions it asks during kernel compile because of config files mismatch. I enabled scsi in there
[09:55] <lastnode> clintonc, hmmm, that's a good question. im sorry, i cant be of much help there. i nearly said 'ask portage not to get it' before i realized this isnt #gentoo. :\ im sorry, never had to do that on a deb based distro, mate.
[09:57] <clintonc> lastnode: I saw somewhere on the internets that one way is to download the .deb, unpack it, edit the configuration file, and repack and install it, but that doesn't seem like the ideal solution.  :P
[09:57] <mixelogj> perhaps the problem is the same for compiling any kernel in a SATA hdd.
[09:57] <clintonc> I'd rather have a nice option to rely upon.
[09:57] <lastnode> clintonc, how this is nto a deb? you compiled it?
[09:57] <clintonc> Ok, here's the real issue.
[09:57] <lastnode> hmmm, id advise you to make the revised deb, and even release it.
[09:58] <clintonc> There is a small dependency difference between a package I have installed and a package which is listed as a dependency for another package.
[09:58] <drcode> is there option to make ubuntu live cd with base disk
[09:58] <drcode> like 100 mb
[09:58] <drcode> and put the packge I want?
[09:58] <clintonc> something seems to be screwy with the repository, as when I try to reinstall that package I get an error that I can't even download it
[09:59] <clintonc> I'll be filing a bug report, but I don't want to have to wait for that to get my packages installed  :)
[10:00] <drcode> where can I find info on making livecd ubuntu from base?
[10:04] <clintonc> Where does apt place a .deb which was fetched with the 'download only' option?
[10:04] <amarokker> its the same place. no?
[10:05] <amarokker>  /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:05] <discord_> clintonc: how do you use the download only option is it apt-get -d packname?
[10:05] <clintonc> ah, thanks  :)
[10:05] <clintonc> yeah
[10:05] <subpar> can anyone help with some winecfg problems?
[10:10] <clintonc> Somehow, I managed an unsatisfied dependency for downloading a package.
[10:10] <clintonc> I baffle myself sometimes.
[10:12] <Davo_Dinkum> With this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingXubuntu, how can I remove the Gnome part of ubuntu?
[10:12] <Davo_Dinkum> Will it be exactly the same as installing Xubuntu from the Xubuntu CD?
[10:13] <skpl> can someone please help me? i am having trouble connecting to the internet in ubuntu
[10:13] <peija-kas> upshs01 hey man are u still here :)
[10:13] <Davo_Dinkum> Broadband or dial up?
[10:13] <skpl> broadband
[10:13] <peija-kas> can i direct send u the other book here in irc..
[10:13] <peija-kas> its maybe too big to fit in mailbox..18 megs
[10:14] <Davo_Dinkum> What exactly doesn't work?
[10:14] <upshs01> yeah im waitin, im just okay,
[10:14] <peija-kas> ill send it to ya
[10:14] <skpl> when trying to use my web browser to search google i got the following error " unable to connect to server"
[10:15] <peija-kas> ill send the smaller one thru email
[10:15] <lastnode> skpl, are you connected to a network? can you ping your router?
[10:15] <Davo_Dinkum> Did you try to access any other websites?
[10:15] <surface> skp1, first check ifconfig
[10:15] <upshs01> peija-kas thanx
[10:15] <Davo_Dinkum> Give us details, skpl
[10:15] <M_Fatih> hi all
[10:15] <surface> skpl:  it might be ur dns
[10:16] <skpl> i do not know how to ping my router
[10:16] <peija-kas> hmm its not starting
[10:16] <peija-kas> are dccs also forbidden here?
[10:16] <skpl> surface: what should ifcongfig tell me?
[10:16] <Davo_Dinkum> What make and model is the router?
[10:16] <surface> skpl:  ifconfig and check ur gateway
[10:16] <skpl> check for what?
[10:16] <upshs01> peija - just give an idea where to look for linux manual or instructional materials
[10:17] <surface> skpl:  ifconfig tells u a lots, hwaddress, ip, gateway ip too
[10:17] <skpl> what should i do with that information?
[10:17] <upshs01> i cant use my linux
[10:17] <upshs01> im new to this os
[10:17] <surface> skpl:  if u can ip, and gateway, try ping that gateway ip
[10:17] <M_Fatih> problem : i'm working with xgl good & efeective. But when i'm using compiz, XGL crashes random point, (example: i'm opening my xgl/compiz desktop and going to eat something, when i come back my gdm login screen waiting to me :( xgl crashed & restarted) i can't see error logging files or error :( how can i fix this or debug this?
[10:17] <upshs01> sorry to disturb you peija
[10:18] <peija-kas> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Main_Page  Ubuntu Documentation Project
[10:18] <skpl> surface: what should i do if it does not respond? i am having to log back into windows to get help with this, so i would like to cover all my bases
[10:18] <surface> skpl:  if u can ping, then u need to check ur dns. and change /etc/resolv.conf to point to ur dns. are u using ubuntu by now?
[10:18] <peija-kas> upshs01 np ... ill try to mail that book yet, its very good for beginners
[10:18] <Davo_Dinkum> M_Faith: try #ubuntu-xgl
[10:18] <skpl> surface: i have used ubuntu before but i am installing it now on a friend's computer.
[10:18] <M_Fatih> ok
[10:19] <surface> skpl:  emmm.... so ur fren comp besides ur com now?
[10:19] <skpl> surface: how do i check my dns?
[10:19] <upshs01> can i ask peija - from where r u? r u connected with the people in our main office UP Manila?
[10:19] <skpl> surface: no, i am at her house installing it on her computer, mine is at home
[10:20] <peija-kas> no im in Finland :)
[10:20] <peija-kas> i sent u a Ubuntu book in your email
[10:20] <skpl> surface; how do i find out what her dns address is?
[10:20] <peija-kas> the other book is too big to send thru my mail account
[10:20] <surface> skpl:  emm... u need to check the router... where are u from , i mean country.
[10:20] <skpl> surface: united states, why?
[10:20] <upshs01> thats okey whatever is available
[10:21] <surface> skpl:  wat isp are u using, ask around here and see whether any one knows
[10:21] <botxj> is it me or did daylight savings time just hit?
[10:21] <upshs01> hi jane
[10:21] <skpl> surface: you said i should make sure /etc/resolve.conf matches my dns address, how do i do that?
[10:22] <jane> er, hi?
[10:22] <Healot> man resolv.conf
[10:22] <skpl> i guess i will go try that now
[10:22] <upshs01> i try to figure out whats in linux
[10:22] <surface> skpl: 209.131.36.158 < --- this is yahoo ip, if u login to ubuntu and able to ping this. that means u need to change ur /etc/resolve.conf to point to ur dns
[10:22] <Healot> skpl: basically, add the line "nameserver dnsserver"; replace dnsserver with a quad IP address
[10:23] <surface> Healot:  u are late, he is gone
[10:23] <botxj> the clocks on my digital cable box, cellphones, and my computers have shifted an hour ahead, compared to the time on my alarm clock
[10:23] <upshs01> jane can i have email add
[10:23] <Davo_Dinkum> Your alarm clock must have a virus!
[10:24] <jane> er?
[10:24] <jane> do i know you?
[10:24] <xinted> haha
[10:24] <botxj> or DST is over
[10:24] <upshs01> im new with this program
[10:25] <peija-kas> upshs01 i try to send u the other book too
[10:25] <jane> great, but that doesn't mean i'm gonna give you my email address..
[10:25] <peija-kas> i zipped it so it would fit in my mail upload :)
[10:25] <upshs01> ok thanx again, peija
[10:25] <peija-kas> the first one should be there already
[10:26] <peija-kas> no problem, glad if it helps..
[10:26] <upshs01> hoping your a big help in my new linux series
[10:27] <upshs01> jane no you dont know me, thats why i wantd to know you
[10:27] <jane> well sorry, i don't give out my email address to people i don't really know :)
[10:27] <peija-kas> disposable email addresses = good :)
[10:27] <jane> disposable email addresses == annoying
[10:27] <jane> :)
[10:27] <peija-kas> hehe
[10:28] <upshs01> let me introduce first if you dont mind jane?
[10:29] <jane> am i the completely random 1 out of 863 people that you decided to ask? ;)
[10:29] <ssinghi> what is the command name for terminal to run it from "Run application" dialog?
[10:30] <upshs01> well thats okey out of 863 people that i ask you're the no 1
[10:30] <jane> well then maybe you can find someone else who can help ya :)
[10:31] <upshs01> no,no,no, jane pls. i just wanted to have friends
[10:32] <ssinghi> upshs01, this is a tech forum, try some other IRC server
[10:33] <mabus> ssinghi: gnome-term you mean?
[10:34] <ssinghi> mabus, yes, thanks, i was trying term, konsole etc. but they weren't working
[10:34] <AbortD> how do i remove a icon from Applications>Games
[10:34] <AbortD> ?
[10:36] <peija-kas> AbortD use the Alacarte Menu editor in Accessories
[10:37] <AbortD> its not working
[10:38] <AbortD> i click to invisible it
[10:38] <AbortD> and i still see it
[10:39] <Sarah07> :)
[10:40] <Sarah07> Hullo, I am Sarah
[10:40] <Sarah07> I'm looking for friends!
[10:40] <peija-kas> upshs01 one more try using Gmail :) the book is 8.8 megs zipped so my mails keep telling me they dont want that big attachments ;)
[10:40] <jane> he/she's gone :(
[10:40] <Sarah07> loldamnit
[10:41] <Sarah07> jane, Will you be my friend?
[10:42] <kraut> hi
[10:42] <Sarah07> hullo!
[10:42] <kraut> is it easily possible to switch a running debian-system remote to ubuntu?
[10:42] <surface> hi'
[10:42] <surface> what do u mean debian-system remote?
[10:42] <mrbrdo> recently, my sound card stopped working.. i think it was after i made a .asoundrc (didn't exist before) in my homedir, tried some settings and then deleted it. dmesg doesn't seem to show anything about my sound card now, and it also does not work on a different kernel.. it works on a livecd. i don't know what to do
[10:42] <kraut> i have a running debian-server and like to want  to switch it to ubuntu.
[10:42] <peija-kas> kraut - i dont think so
[10:42] <Overand> and it's "remote" - as in, he has no physical access to it
[10:43] <peija-kas> so many packages aredifferent
[10:43] <Overand> kraut: you *can* - but it's dodgy
[10:43] <Overand>  =] 
[10:43] <peija-kas> not easily at least
[10:43] <surface> kraut:  different
[10:43] <surface> kraut:  upgrade will screwup ur debian.
[10:43] <peija-kas> most probably
[10:44] <Overand> an interesting idea would be to use gnuparted
[10:44] <Uberpussy> lmfao, great stalking there
[10:44] <Overand> and install a seperate ubuntu installation alongside it
[10:44] <mrbrdo> can anyone please help me with my sound problem?
[10:45] <Edulix> hi  !
[10:45] <surface> Overand:  good idea.
[10:45] <Edulix> oks I'm here: http://www.getdemocracy.com/downloads/ubuntu.php
[10:45] <Edulix> where is the link to ubuntu's download? not there..
[10:45] <nopx90> hi... something really strange just happened... i think i may have been hacked.. is there a new vulnerability in dapper that i'm not aware of?
[10:46] <surface> nopx90:  what happen?
[10:47] <nopx90> surface, i have a shared fat32 drive... this usually appears on the desktop as sda4... it's been this way ever since i installed ubuntu...
[10:47] <peija-kas> nopx90 what services do u have open? SMB, SSH?
[10:47] <peija-kas> so u have samba open to the internet by any chance?
[10:47] <nopx90> and now the drive appears on my desktop named as "ok_w7@hotma"
[10:47] <peija-kas> someone can easily access samba if its not firewalled or otherwise secured
[10:47] <nopx90> i mean what the hell... this has to be somebody doing it right? there's no way it would happen by accident
[10:48] <kraut> Overand: that soundy crappy
[10:48] <nopx90> i have iptables rules blocking every port except for packets that are established or related
[10:48] <peija-kas> nopx90 do "sudo apt-get install chkrootkit"
[10:48] <peija-kas> and "sudo apt-get install rkhunter"
[10:48] <peija-kas> then run them with sudo
[10:48] <peija-kas> "sudo chkrootkit"
[10:48] <peija-kas> and "sudo rkhunter -c"
[10:48] <peija-kas> if they find anything...tell us
[10:49] <nopx90> ok sure
[10:49] <nopx90> i'm upgrading my packages atm just incase there is some vulnerability... but the minute that's finished i'll do it
[10:49] <somazero> Greetings!  What's the recommended em64t kernel?  amd64 generic or the xeon?
[10:49] <peija-kas> nopx90 if u been hacked already, upgradings no help
[10:49] <nopx90> i'm considering dropping an email to "ok_w7@hotmail.com" and asking who it is
[10:50] <jme> somazero: what?
[10:50] <peija-kas> those 2 prgs search for signs of rootkits etc nastiness
[10:50] <jme> there's no xeon kernel
[10:50] <peija-kas> which a hacker would install
[10:50] <Healot> somazero: zeron
[10:50] <jme> just use x86, somazero
[10:50] <Healot> zeon
[10:50] <Healot> xeon, damn
[10:50] <somazero> jme: There's an amd64-xeon image available
[10:50] <botxj> what is the command for creating symbolic links in ubuntu?
[10:51] <lastnode> botxj, ln
[10:51] <jme> oh
[10:51] <lastnode> botxj, man ln
[10:51] <peija-kas> botxj hold shift+ctrl when dragging files to make links
[10:51] <peija-kas> or ln
[10:51] <peija-kas> command
[10:51] <somazero> Healot: Now, does that have just the xeon stuff or does that have the em64t goodies enabled?
[10:51] <jme> well, you still want x86, somazero
[10:51] <botxj> lastnode: but that command creates HARD links
[10:51] <jme> there's really no gain from 64-bit, and it's a lot of trouble at this point
[10:51] <Healot> ln -s <<
[10:51] <somazero> jme: Why would I want that when I could have amd64?!...;)
[10:51] <peija-kas> yes Healot ln -s ;)
[10:51] <lastnode> -s is the flag for soft
[10:51] <peija-kas> yupp forgot
[10:51] <botxj> aight
[10:51] <jme> because stuff not compiled for 64-bit won't work
[10:51] <Healot> -s is sexy :)
[10:52] <jme> not easily at least
[10:52] <Psychobudgie> jme,  not the case
[10:52] <jme> again, there's no gain
[10:52] <Healot> jme: don't speak in general terms, be specific
[10:52] <Psychobudgie> majority of stuff runs within the linux32 wrapper
[10:52] <jme> unless you need more than 4 gigs of memory or something
[10:52] <somazero> jme: I've heard there's a gain using things such as blender, etc...
[10:52] <jme> really no point
[10:52] <upshs01> peija ive got the books thanks i have to go now bye
[10:52] <peija-kas> well 64bit is no use for a home user yet
[10:52] <somazero> jme: But, under normal use, I think you're right
[10:52] <peija-kas> ok good upshs01
[10:52] <peija-kas> :)
[10:52] <Psychobudgie> I've used 64bit distros for around a year
[10:53] <jme> yeah, the benchmark improvements are pretty marginal
[10:53] <peija-kas> 64 bit gives advantages maybe in heavy server use
[10:53] <peija-kas> in home use...no bonus yet
[10:53] <deddly> whats the latest on flash player 9? do you have to use wine?
[10:53] <Psychobudgie> response time on the desktop is quicker, noticably so
[10:53] <somazero> jme: And, as long as you have the compat libs installed - why *not* use an operating system that takes advantage of your arch?...;)
[10:53] <ikonia> Psychobudgie that shouldn't be the case
[10:53] <Psychobudgie> well it is
[10:53] <jme> Psychobudgie: sorry, but there's no way that's not conflated with other variables
[10:53] <NET||abuse> hi guys, i'm having a problem with my application database, i right click ona file and want to topen with a program, say gedit, so i go down the list to open with, then select Text Editor, but it says Could not add application to the application database
[10:53] <somazero> jme: Besides, isn't it just java and OO.org that doesn't compile properly?
[10:54] <somazero> jme: not working, anywho...
[10:54] <NET||abuse> it does the same with xine or anything really
[10:54] <jme> a lot of binary-only software (like Flash) doesn't run 64-bit native
[10:54] <jme> you can use the wrapper of course
[10:54] <Psychobudgie> runs as a 32bit application
[10:54] <deddly> is flash 9 only on wine?
[10:54] <jme> yeah, deddly
[10:54] <deddly> thanks mate
[10:55] <somazero> jme: Right, just use the compat libs - Not that big of a deal - for me anyhow.  I wouldn't run 32bit just for flash...;)
[10:55] <Psychobudgie> haven't come across any app I need that won't work in x64
[10:55] <jme> well, you're not running 64bit for much of anything, unless you have software that was specifically designed for 64-bit
[10:56] <ikonia> Psychobudgie vmware, flash, certain video codeds, thats an easy starter
[10:57] <Psychobudgie> flash runs as a 32bit app, all the codecs run as 32bit apps
[10:57] <ikonia> but thats in a 32bit chroot
[10:57] <Psychobudgie> vmware can be made to work, but I don't need it
[10:57] <Psychobudgie> ikonia,  no it's not
[10:57] <somazero> jme: True, but with that reasoning - no one will use/support 64 bit systems...
[10:57] <Psychobudgie> ikonia,  compile mplayer as a 32bit app and run within linux32
[10:57] <Psychobudgie> bobs your uncle
[10:58] <jme> somazero: sure they will
[10:58] <ikonia> but thats not running it 32bit
[10:58] <ikonia> 64bit sorry
[10:58] <Psychobudgie> that includes the plugin
[10:58] <jme> most processors sold these days support 64-bit
[10:58] <Psychobudgie> it runs, whether it's within a wrapper or not is inconsequential
[10:58] <jme> eventually it will make sense to program with them in mind, but it just doesn't yet for many apps
[10:58] <Psychobudgie> plugins don't need to be running in 64bit native
[10:59] <Psychobudgie> no gain
[10:59] <ikonia> I don't want to get into this argument
[10:59] <somazero> jme: I guess my thought process is, why not use an OS that supports 64 and use the compat libs if you need something that isn't 64 able...
[10:59] <Psychobudgie> the codecs are all windows 32bit
[10:59] <jme> because a feature that provides no benefit isn't really worth using
[10:59] <jme> you're not missing out by staying 32-bit
[11:00] <Psychobudgie> the underlying os and x server is 64 bit
[11:00] <somazero> jme: until you *do* need 32bit and you have to reinstall...;)
[11:00] <Psychobudgie> as are the majority of applications
[11:00] <somazero> jme: 64bit, rather
[11:00] <jme> really?
[11:00] <jme> when will I need 64-bit?
[11:00] <peija-kas> not anytime soon
[11:01] <ikonia> NET||abuse as a side issue, I remove Xgl and AIglx from my laptop - and went back to just using a standard xorg server setup. However scince I've dropped back to my standard xorg server my intel 915 chip runs with DRI disabled
[11:01] <somazero> jme: heh - For all I know, never...But, I'm sure you see my point - as I see yours...
[11:01] <Psychobudgie> I use 64bit because I can and for me it is more responsive than the 32 bit vanilla ubuntu, especially when I have a lot going on at the same time
[11:02] <Cyball> hi @all does anybody know what it could be if i get no DHCPOFFERS with WLAN RT2500 ???
[11:02] <ikonia> after out discussion on DRI I thought oyu may be interested
[11:03] <jme> Cyball: it means no router is offering you service
[11:03] <jme> check that your connection settings are correct
[11:03] <CromagDK> how is it i can see if i have Nvidia drivers installed ?
[11:03] <NET||abuse> ikonia, really, bummer :(
[11:03] <jme> !nvidia > CromagDK
[11:04] <ikonia> yeah, what a total pain. I've gone back to standard xorg and now the performance of my 915 sucks
[11:04] <NET||abuse> ikonia, ye, probably some sort of driver or library cross over with Xgl and xorg
[11:04] <ikonia> I only noticed it when my matrix 3d scren saver kicked in
[11:04] <NET||abuse> hah, doh
[11:05] <jme> I have the ultimate poorly-supported video card - a Radeon Mobility 7500
[11:05] <jme> only the (bad) open-source drivers work on it
[11:06] <GusWrk> hi guys.  is there a way to make the live cd install via text mode?  I've got an old system that I need to install on, it won't run the live CD and it won't boot off CDs that I've burnt myself. :-(
[11:06] <GusWrk> so I can't use the altenative cd.
[11:06] <peija-kas> GusWrk - download the Alternate Instal cd
[11:06] <NET||abuse> jme, same as my card
[11:06] <NET||abuse> what laptop are you on? compaq N610c
[11:06] <NET||abuse> ?
[11:07] <peija-kas> oh u cant burn em yourself..
[11:07] <Healot> get xubuntu alternate install CD :0
[11:07] <GusWrk> peija-kas: I have, but I have to burn that myself.  this sytem seems to only boot 'proper' cds, not cdrs
[11:07] <peija-kas> then u gotta burn it somewhere else
[11:07] <jme> NET||abuse: N620c
[11:07] <jme> nice laptop, but not full support
[11:07] <NET||abuse> ooh, swine.. one up hah
[11:07] <peija-kas> livecd no longer has text mode imho
[11:07] <NET||abuse> well, what are you trying to run on it?
[11:07] <jme> on the plus side, it was nice and cheap
[11:07] <peija-kas> only the Alternate...i use Alternate too
[11:07] <GusWrk> stupid old hp netserver
[11:08] <boink> does the alternative cd have a text-mode installer?
[11:08] <NET||abuse> jme, is this an Xgl thing you're trying to run?
[11:08] <jme> I mainly stare at xterms, so the video isn't really important
[11:08] <peija-kas> the Alternate cd is text only
[11:08] <peija-kas> like the old installer
[11:08] <GusWrk> peija-kas: yeah I'm pretty sure live cd has no text mode, I just wanted to check.
[11:08] <jme> I'm not doing anything like that, but even in screensavers the performace is abysmal
[11:08] <NET||abuse> jme, i've had DRI running on this machine in normal xorg no problm
[11:08] <NET||abuse> oh, screensaver performance hah
[11:08] <NET||abuse> fair nuff
[11:09] <jme> NET||abuse: really?
[11:09] <NET||abuse> I actually have Xgl compiz running on this bad boy nicely
[11:09] <jme> what driver are you using, "radeon"?
[11:09] <jme> maybe you could send me your xorg.conf...
[11:09] <NET||abuse> radeon yeh, although i have it working with "ati" also
[11:09] <NET||abuse> with absolutely no xorg.conf changes
[11:09] <NET||abuse> yeh, one sec, i'll pastebin it
[11:10] <jme> thanks
[11:10] <jme> are you using Compaq's built-in wireless?
[11:11] <NET||abuse> compaq built in wireless???
[11:11] <NET||abuse> ummm no,, i have a bufalo card, bcm43xx chipset
[11:11] <jme> the one built into the lid -- optional on this model
[11:11] <NET||abuse> ahhhh, that ,,, no
[11:11] <jme> you can screw off part of the cover on the lid and install the wireless module
[11:11] <jme> gimmicky
[11:11] <NET||abuse> yeh, i remember
[11:12] <NET||abuse> it was only bluetooth available for that when i first got this thing
[11:12] <jme> brb
[11:13] <NET||abuse> jme: http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=8570
[11:13] <nopx90> peija-kas, i ran the programs, rkhunter said "Warning" when "Scanning for hidden files"
[11:13] <botxj> i seem to be missing the files gl.h and glx.h
[11:13] <peija-kas> nopx90 was that the only warning
[11:13] <botxj> when i try and compile glitz for xgl
[11:13] <nopx90> peija-kas, as far as i can tell, yes
[11:14] <peija-kas> and what folders did it arn of..there are usually a few hidden folders/files in the system, that are supposed to be there
[11:14] <jme> thanks, NET
[11:14] <jme> erm, NET||abuse
[11:15] <nopx90> peija-kas, it doesnt say
[11:15] <peija-kas> nopx90 it doesnt say "please check these folders: ...."
[11:15] <peija-kas> ?
[11:15] <nopx90> it just said "*Filesystem checks, Checking /dev for suspicious files... [OK] , Scanning for hidden files... [Warning!] 
[11:15] <nopx90> that's all
[11:16] <peija-kas> ill see what mine says
[11:16] <peija-kas> but if it didnt find anything else, i dont think youre compromised..how are you sharing the shared FAT drive? thru Samba?
[11:16] <nopx90> not at all
[11:16] <nopx90> it's shared between linux and windows on this laptop
[11:16] <nopx90> not over a network
[11:17] <ikonia> time to reboot
[11:17] <nopx90> unless i got compromised while running windows....
[11:17] <peija-kas> nopx90 then i dont think theres a problem..do u use a firewall?
[11:18] <nopx90> on windows i dont have anything as good as iptables... just zone alarm
[11:18] <jme> oh, you've got the small screen NET||abuse
[11:18] <peija-kas> well if u have no services like smb open at all..and u have iptables in use..i dont think theres a easy eay in then
[11:18] <jme> it's funny -- your config is otherwise very similar to mine
[11:18] <jme> but I start a 3D game and it's like .5 FPS
[11:19] <nopx90> peija-kas, ok well then any ideas how i can get it back to sda4? i checked fstab and that's fine, and the drive is still being mounted in /dev/sda4... just the icon has an alias of "ok_w7..."
[11:19] <KenSentMe> Is the problem with flashplugin-nonfree from backports already fixed?
[11:19] <peija-kas> i dont know
[11:19] <nopx90> KenSentMe, i'm having that problem right now
[11:20] <jme> according to the forums, it was fixed after only a couple hours
[11:20] <peija-kas> just downgrade to prev version of flash
[11:20] <jme> try reloading and updating
[11:20] <peija-kas> oh its fixed..
[11:20] <nopx90> it doesnt seem to be fixed for me
[11:21] <nopx90> i get the error "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:21] <peija-kas> then downgrade to previous version
[11:21] <nopx90> how do i do that?
[11:21] <GusWrk> peija-kas: thanks for your help; I found a way around my problem. official 5.10 install cd, then dist-upgrade. :-)
[11:21] <ikonia> yeah dri is back
[11:21] <KenSentMe> same here, so it's not fixed at all, or some mirrors aren't up to date yet
[11:21] <Z310N> does it hurt to get "old" knowledge about linux? can i use it or is things getting updated too fast in linux so old knowledge is no good?
[11:21] <peija-kas> start up Synaptic, select the package, then go to package menu and select Force version
[11:21] <peija-kas> select the previous version
[11:21] <peija-kas> apply
[11:21] <Overand> flash?
[11:21] <nopx90> ok thanks buddy
[11:21] <jme> NET||abuse: aren't the ati and radeon drivers the same?
[11:21] <Overand> er
[11:21] <Overand> ignore that
[11:22] <KenSentMe> peija-kas: that's not a fix, it's a workaround
[11:22] <jme> man, I just get a pathetic showing in glxgears
[11:22] <peija-kas> Z310N most stuff wont get old..like if u learn to use shell commands..they wont change all of a sudden :)
[11:22] <peija-kas> KenSentMe yea its no fix
[11:22] <nopx90> as for the sda4 problem... i think i'll reinstall... because i have some sensitive data on my laptop... oh well
[11:22] <peija-kas> but gets rid of the faulty package for the while being
[11:23] <Z310N> okay peija-kas, its just im sitting reading a book from 99, I would say its pritty old in the computer world
[11:23] <jme> I like combing garage sales for old computer books
[11:23] <Z310N> especially with the konstant growth of linux
[11:24] <peija-kas> yep..
[11:24] <peija-kas> nopx90 -
[11:24] <peija-kas>  Scanning for hidden files...                               [ Warning! ] 
[11:24] <peija-kas> ---------------
[11:24] <peija-kas>  /dev/.static
[11:24] <peija-kas> /dev/.udev
[11:24] <peija-kas> /dev/.initramfs
[11:24] <peija-kas> /dev/.initramfs-tools /etc/.pwd.lock
[11:24] <peija-kas> /etc/.java
[11:24] <peija-kas> ---------------
[11:24] <peija-kas> Please inspect:  /dev/.static (directory)  /dev/.udev (directory)  /dev/.initramfs (directory)  /etc/.java (directory)
[11:24] <saintsjd> I would like to make a ubuntu kiosk with a tiny window manager and firefox as the only application. Any ideas where I can begin looking to find out how to do this?
[11:24] <peija-kas> this is normal...
[11:25] <peija-kas> saintsjd search ubuntu forums
[11:25] <KenSentMe> !paste > peija-kas
[11:25] <peija-kas> there was imho an article on locking down functions in gnome
[11:25] <peija-kas> oh "tiny wm"
[11:25] <peija-kas> :)
[11:26] <peija-kas> KenSentMe thx i didnt know of pastebin
[11:26] <peija-kas> i thought all private messaging was off
[11:26] <peija-kas> which is a bitch
[11:26] <saintsjd> I think tiny WM would be good
[11:26] <peija-kas> how can u get registered with your nickname here so u could use PM?
[11:27] <KenSentMe> type /msg nickserv help
[11:27] <tisek__> hey guys ! anyone knows of a "clean" way to install vim7 on dapper ?
[11:27] <Z310N> if you try to PM a person peija-kas it will instruct you to visit a site where a guide is located
[11:29] <NET||abuse> jme, that conf file give you any clues?
[11:29] <jme> NET||abuse: no, it's practically the same as mine!
[11:29] <peija-kas> Z310N yes if u read the server msg window ;)
[11:29] <jme> yet my glxgears perfomance is bad bad bad
[11:29] <NET||abuse> yeh, i barely had to touch it, one thing i know is that by default, it kept sticking in all the wacom devices, pointers and things from tablet pc type devices
[11:30] <NET||abuse> i had to strip them all out to get Xgl functioning
[11:30] <jme> yeah, I got rid of that junk
[11:30] <jme> so it impacts performance?
[11:30] <bintut> hello all..
[11:30] <peija-kas> xgl takes over 100 megs of memory
[11:30] <NET||abuse> seems to have some kind of a conflict that doesn't allow some facility of Xgl to operate
[11:30] <bintut> how can i enable php4 on my apache2 running ubuntu dapper?
[11:31] <NET||abuse> bintut, did you install apache2 through apt-get
[11:31] <NET||abuse> ?
[11:31] <jme> well, let's restart X and see
[11:31] <NET||abuse> :)
[11:31] <bintut> yes
[11:31] <NET||abuse> ok, then there should be apache2-php4 package
[11:31] <NET||abuse> sudo apt-get install apache2-php4; sudo apace2ctl graceful;
[11:32] <bintut> # apt-get install apache2-php4
[11:32] <bintut>  Couldn't find package apache2-php4
[11:32] <NET||abuse> sorry's
[11:32] <NET||abuse> apache2-mod-php4
[11:32] <NET||abuse> or libapache2-mod-php4
[11:32] <NET||abuse> yehyeh, that's the one
[11:32] <NET||abuse> libapache2-mod-php4
[11:33] <botxj> i seem to be missing the files gl.h and glx.h
[11:33] <bintut> installing
[11:33] <botxj> when i try and compile glitz for xgl
[11:33] <bintut> what about php4-cli with ssl support?
[11:33] <NET||abuse> botxj, are you running from cvs
[11:33] <NET||abuse> ?
[11:33] <botxj> yes the cvs one
[11:34] <NoobieDoobieDo> love you long time
[11:34] <jme> we love you too
[11:34] <NoobieDoobieDo> awesome.
[11:34] <botxj> glitz_glxint.h has an include to GL/g.h or somethign that dont exist
[11:34] <botxj> scoobie doobie doo
[11:34] <CromagDK> thanks for the link before but im looking for a comand for checking for a running nvidia driver anyway to check that ?
[11:34] <NoobieDoobieDo> where are you :)
[11:35] <botxj> lol
[11:36] <NoobieDoobieDo> but seriously - ubuntu is the best distro i've ever used
[11:36] <Healot> !ati
[11:36] <NoobieDoobieDo> but freebsd may give it a run for the money
[11:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:36] <botxj> same here NoobieDoobieDo
[11:36] <rol> How can I get Ubuntu to show verbose startup messages? I have already disabled the splash screen and removed quiet from menu.lst, but I'd also like the startup messages from all services.
[11:36] <jme> NET||abuse: disabling the wacom stuff seems to have no effect, yeah
[11:36] <whadar> anyone here got qemu to work properly with tun/tap bridge? im getting "no ip address" message when running the qemu...
[11:37] <botxj> NET||abuse: you looking into that xgl issue for me?
[11:37] <peija-kas> glxinfo? CromagDK
[11:37] <CromagDK> damn heh
[11:37] <NoobieDoobieDo> I`m trying to compile Neverball and I get this msg ... make: cc: Command not found
[11:37] <CromagDK> well i got info :)
[11:37] <CromagDK> thnkx :)
[11:37] <NoobieDoobieDo> help?
[11:37] <peija-kas> np
[11:38] <whadar> !qemu
[11:38] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[11:38] <rol> I have tried removing /etc/lsb-base-logging.sh, but the console still does not show anything.
[11:40] <micahcowan> NoobieDoobieDo, why not use the neverball package?
[11:40] <rem__> Hey..I ger this error when I apt-get update, the link however is reachable from that computer and apt-get update works fine from another computer in the network: 00:04:76:da:3a:87
[11:40] <rol> I have the impression that console output is still redirected somewhere; any idea how I can disable that?
[11:40] <rem__> Cannot initiate the connection to ch.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (2001:620:0:8:203:baff:fe52:38e6). - connect (101 Network is unreachable) [IP: 2001:620:0:8:203:baff:fe52:38e6 80] 
[11:41] <rem__> why i the ip in ..is it ipv6 format ?
[11:41] <archangelpetro> ok.. i've apt-get install gdb  ... but where is it? shoudl the command to run it simply be 'gdb'?
[11:41] <micahcowan> archangelpetro, yes
[11:42] <archangelpetro> hmm
[11:42] <archangelpetro> i got a seg fault when trying to install it before
[11:42] <archangelpetro> and now installing it or not doesnt seem to work
[11:42] <shadukan> hi
[11:42] <opexoc> !libkdecore
[11:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libkdecore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <shadukan> where can i download the ATI drivers for my linux tried the ati driver didn't find anything
[11:43] <rem__> anyone ?
[11:43] <rootpt> !ati
[11:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:44] <peija-kas> or use easyubuntu script for drivers..
[11:44] <NoobieDoobieDo> micahcowan: can't find the neverball package.
[11:45] <peija-kas> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/  installs drivers, codecs, flash, java etc
[11:45] <Kablam> Is there a virtualisation program that is under the GPL?
[11:45] <peija-kas> Qemu?
[11:45] <jpjacobs> Kablam, qemu or Xen
[11:45] <peija-kas> Xen?
[11:45] <surface> yeah Qemu Kablam
[11:45] <archangelpetro> well i tried installing another package from apt... and that worked ok...
[11:45] <archangelpetro> but
[11:45] <micahcowan> NoobieDoobieDo, it's called "neverball". Try sudo apt-get install neverball
[11:45] <peija-kas> but also vmware player and server are free
[11:45] <peija-kas> but not open
[11:45] <NoobieDoobieDo> micahcowan: im watching it compile now :)
[11:45] <NoobieDoobieDo> but thanks
[11:46] <archangelpetro> when i try to install gdb.. it doesnt seem to wokr.. (it segfaulted trying to install it before when i had RAM problems)  any suggestions?
[11:46] <peija-kas> and u need to register at vmware to get keys...but they give several keys too if asked for many boxes
[11:47] <Kablam> Qemu uses "various" licences, apparently:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qemu
[11:47] <ashik> I cant open a.po file with gedit
[11:47] <peija-kas> but Xen, the Novell one...how about that..
[11:47] <peija-kas> ashik u need poedit
[11:47] <Marlun> What wiki engine is Ubuntu Documentation pages using?
[11:47] <peija-kas> but gedit should open it too??
[11:48] <micahcowan> NoobieDoobieDo, it's almost always better to use the provided package, though.
[11:48] <peija-kas> ashik apt-get install poedit
[11:48] <saintsjd> Is there a way to use ltsp-build-client script to create a command line only client root at /opt/ltsp/i386 as opposed to a full gnome desktop?
[11:48] <archangelpetro> can no one suggest a resolution?
[11:48] <peija-kas> its an editor for those .po files
[11:49] <micahcowan> archangelpetro, I don't believe you've actually clearly specified what the problem is, yet.
[11:49] <archangelpetro> well i dont really know... apt-get segfaulted when i was installing gdb
[11:49] <archangelpetro> and now i removed it
[11:49] <archangelpetro> and tried to reinstall it
[11:49] <archangelpetro> it says successfully installed
[11:50] <archangelpetro> but i cant run 'gdb' and synaptic shows it as not installed..
[11:50] <jpjacobs> !repositories
[11:50] <archangelpetro> how can i install it?
[11:50] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:50] <surface> archangelpetro:  maybe just now u r upgrading or open synaptic?
[11:50] <surface> archangelpetro:  don't open synaptic and apt-get at the same time
[11:50] <rene32> My canon i450 does not print. I have configured it in CUPS, it is available for pinting but it does not print. Now what? Any ideas?
[11:50] <unfknblvbl> switch it on ?
[11:50] <micahcowan> archangelpetro, did you try sudo apt-get install --reinstall gdb ?
[11:50] <archangelpetro> ah
[11:51] <archangelpetro> now synaptic shows that gdb is installed
[11:51] <unfknblvbl> thats how i solved my printing problem
[11:51] <surface> rene32:  http://127.0.0.1:631 , can access?
[11:51] <archangelpetro> but i still dont have the 'gdb' command?
[11:51] <rene32> surface: yes
[11:51] <surface> archangelpetro:  sudo -i
[11:51] <surface> gdb
[11:51] <micahcowan> surface, why in the world?
[11:51] <surface> archangelpetro:  or locate gdb
[11:51] <tisek> hey guys, I'm on ubuntu dapper, and i'd like to try xfce just to try you know, should I install xubuntu-desktop pasckage or only xfce ?
[11:52] <surface> rene32:  try to configure at there.
[11:52] <rene32> surface: It says "Make and Model: Canon imageRunner 330s Foomatic/lj4dith" (it is a canon i450)
[11:52] <surface> micahcowan:  whats about the world?
[11:52] <jpjacobs> !repositories
[11:52] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:52] <archangelpetro> http://rafb.net/paste/results/8mVjES13.html
[11:52] <micahcowan> surface, why should he try to run gdb as root? ("sudo -i")
[11:52] <archangelpetro> well i have a root account
[11:53] <archangelpetro> and when im root i cant execute gdb either
[11:53] <surface> rene32:  i just know u can configure at there, last time i configure with just probe around
[11:53] <micahcowan> archangelpetro, what is the output of dpkg -l gdb ?
[11:53] <surface> rene32:  ya one thing make sure ur /etc/hosts have localhost in it, cups uses that
[11:54] <archangelpetro> http://rafb.net/paste/results/vuNFDk57.html   micahcowan
[11:54] <surface> micahcowan:  oops it should be working without root
[11:54] <wo_Ot> ubuntu, can run on 3p 500mhz box?
[11:54] <jme> hmmmmm, the "vesa" driver is a step up
[11:54] <rene32> surface, I'll change the driver to some driver which seems to work (following some forum discussions). Let's see if that works out.
[11:55] <surface> rene32:  ok.
[11:56] <surface> archangelpetro:  close ur synaptic. and try sudo apt-get install gdb again.
[11:56] <micahcowan> archangelpetro, how about dpkg -s gdb ?
[11:57] <archangelpetro> well it seems to be installed from that.
[11:57] <archangelpetro> http://rafb.net/paste/results/RnjErq74.html
[11:57] <archangelpetro> hmm.. i just found the command gdbtui
[11:57] <BlackTiger> please help http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=262060
[11:58] <encarna> hola
[11:58] <wo_Ot> ubuntu, can run on 3p 500mhz box?
[11:58] <micahcowan> Arcainus, and you did do "sudo apt-get install --reinstall gdb"?
[11:58] <rene32> surface: I canged the driver from default to S450 and it seems to work. Just the wrong driver. thx for your help though
[11:58] <micahcowan> archangelpetro, ^^^^
[11:58] <archangelpetro> :/
[11:58] <archangelpetro> gdbtui seems to be gdb
[11:58] <Davo_Dinkum> woot: yes, but slowly. try xubuntu instead
[11:59] <archangelpetro> i have just done the reinstall.
[11:59] <micahcowan> is it there?
[11:59] <archangelpetro> no
[11:59] <archangelpetro> and when i run gdbtui
[11:59] <archangelpetro> i get a seg fault.
[12:01] <micahcowan> Arcainus, ls /usr/bin/gdb*
[12:01] <micahcowan> archangelpetro, ^^^^
[12:01] <surface> rene32:  welcome
[12:02] <archangelpetro> petroleum@akasha:~/downloads/dobbs$ ls /usr/bin/gdb*
[12:02] <archangelpetro> /usr/bin/gdbtui
[12:02] <archangelpetro> gdbtui segfaults when i run it
[12:03] <surface> archangelpetro:  never see gdbtui before, doubts which repo u get it from.
[12:03] <ashik> sorry the extension was .pot ............so which editor to use to open a.pot file
[12:03] <archangelpetro> no idea
[12:03] <archangelpetro> lol
[12:03] <archangelpetro> how do i find out?
[12:03] <archangelpetro> i can paste my sources list?
[12:05] <micahcowan> surface, on my system, dpkg -S /usr/bin/gdbtui says it's part of the gdb package. But so is /usr/bin/gdb.
[12:05] <micahcowan> archangelpetro, what is the result of dpkg -S /usr/bin/gdb?
[12:06] <surface> /usr/bin/gdb  /usr/bin/gdbserver  /usr/bin/gdbtui
[12:07] <archangelpetro> http://rafb.net/paste/results/Y1vde191.html
[12:07] <mtholdenss> whats up with all the upgrades? new kernel?
[12:09] <ashik> sorry the extension was .pot ............so which editor to use to open a.pot file
[12:09] <ashik> how to open a.pot file
[12:09] <surface> archangelpetro:  gdb seems not install, dpkg -l | grep gdb   did u see any gdb ?
[12:10] <archangelpetro> surface:  yea
[12:10] <archangelpetro> gdb and libgdbm3
[12:10] <surface> emmm gdb should be there...
[12:11] <surface> archangelpetro:  did u use other repos besides the ordinary one?
[12:11] <archangelpetro> i do belkieve so
[12:12] <archangelpetro> http://rafb.net/paste/results/SB9U4K30.html
[12:12] <surface> archangelpetro:  try to apt-get remove gdb , comment the unusual repo address, and apt-get update, then apt-get install gdb
[12:12] <archangelpetro> k
[12:12] <mtholdenss> new kernel?
[12:13] <codecaine> is there a rdesktop server for linux so you can connect to linux from the remote desktop client on windows?
[12:13] <surface> archangelpetro:  i am not kubuntu user, but is it a right way to put both ubuntu and kubuntu repo address together?
[12:14] <surface> archangelpetro:  u added ubuntu repo urself or come by default?
[12:14] <alucardsy> Hello - what is the root / sudo password for a generic ubuntu server installation - i cannot do a sudo without a password
[12:14] <darksector> way way way
[12:14] <archangelpetro> the bottom block surface i added myself
[12:14] <surface> alucardsy:  sudo needs ur user passwd instead of root passwd
[12:14] <alucardsy> surface, thank you
[12:14] <archangelpetro> i commented them out surface same problem
[12:14] <surface> archangelpetro:  i think might be the problem, comment all first, then apt-get update and try
[12:15] <l0pht> is it easy to install XGL on ubuntu?
[12:15] <surface> apt-get remove gdb
[12:15] <surface> then install again, same problem?
[12:15] <surface> did u update?
[12:15] <archangelpetro> surface: i removed all the ones i added in yea
[12:15] <archangelpetro> aye
[12:15] <surface> apt-get update
[12:16] <archangelpetro> i did
[12:16] <surface> gdb still get seg fault?
[12:16] <archangelpetro> aye
[12:16] <surface> weird
[12:16] <surface> let me think.....
[12:16] <surface> alucardsy:  welcome.
[12:16] <micahcowan> archangelpetro, you /might/ need to remove a gdb package from /var/cache/apt/archives ?
[12:17] <micahcowan> dunno if that will make a difference, but it might.
[12:17] <tempest> hey ootput you around?
[12:17] <surface> archangelpetro:  maybe, try micahcowan suggestion
[12:17] <archangelpetro> micahcowan: i might just have to reinstall the damn distro
[12:17] <micahcowan> archangelpetro, that seems unlikely.
[12:17] <archangelpetro> well
[12:17] <archangelpetro> i had RAM problems recently
[12:18] <surface> archangelpetro:  haha cannot simply put repo which u are not sure... i get it wrong last time too
[12:18] <archangelpetro> basically i think one of my RAM modules broken
[12:18] <_lyte_> Hi all, in my machine i dont have stdio.h :(
[12:18] <archangelpetro> and everything messed up when i was in the middle of installing gdb
[12:18] <surface> archangelpetro:  ram modules?
[12:18] <archangelpetro> which is why i got the segfault
[12:18] <archangelpetro> aye
[12:18] <_lyte_> when i compile it shows error
[12:18] <archangelpetro> i've removed 3 of the 4 ram modules i have
[12:18] <archangelpetro> one of them is faulty
[12:18] <_lyte_> i have gcc installed :( but how do i make sure that i can compile c programs ?
[12:19] <micahcowan> _lyte_, did you apt-get install build-essential? (as root)
[12:19] <surface> archangelpetro:  maybe, will restart make the different?
[12:19] <_lyte_> micahcowan: will do that now
[12:19] <archangelpetro> well i booted it just a min before we started talking
[12:19] <tempest> I installed ubuntu but when I reboot I get no option to boot into ubuntu. just goes to windows. can anyone help?
[12:19] <surface> _lyte_:  echo 'main(){int sp;printf("%p\n",&sp);}'>q.c;gcc -o q.x q.c;./q.x;rm q.?
[12:19] <_lyte_> this is the kernel source ?
[12:20] <surface> _lyte_: if it works that means ur gcc works
[12:20] <micahcowan> surface, yes, but it doesn't solve his missing stdio.h problem.
[12:20] <_lyte_> surface hold on..
[12:20] <E-bola> Does ubuntu work out of the box with sites like youtube google video etc?
[12:20] <surface> tempest:  emmm... what did u do in between ?
[12:21] <surface> micahcowan:  is it some *-devel needed?
[12:21] <tempest> surface, in between what :/
[12:21] <surface> micahcowan:  or glibc ? no idea
[12:21] <micahcowan> surface, yes. And the appropriate ones should be included as dependencies in build-depend.
[12:21] <_lyte_> surface: it doesn't work
[12:21] <_lyte_> :(
[12:21] <micahcowan> It's probably glibc-dev or somesuch.
[12:21] <surface> tempest:  in between install and reboot
[12:21] <_lyte_> glibc is also there i checked
[12:21] <micahcowan> _lyte_, did you install build-depend yet?
[12:21] <tempest> nothing
[12:22] <_lyte_> no its downloading
[12:22] <_lyte_> :)
[12:22] <_lyte_> am using a slow connection right now
[12:22] <tempest> surface, nothing. it asked me if i wanted to reboot or continue running from the cd I think. i hit reboot
[12:22] <micahcowan> _lyte_, ooc, what was the error you got from gcc?
[12:23] <surface> tempest:  u use live cd to install?
[12:23] <tempest> yup
[12:23] <gourdin> what is the problem with the last flash-plugin update ?
[12:23] <micahcowan> tempest, sounds like the master boot record didn't get overwritten...
[12:23] <surface> tempest:  my case is i do upgrade from breezy... did u search around google? i am sure somebody get this too
[12:23] <gourdin> dpkg: error processing flashplugin-nonfree
[12:23] <surface> tempest:  when asked to install grub, did u say yes?
[12:24] <micahcowan> gourdin, I believe I heard that some things specific to edgy got backported to dapper and broke. :/
[12:24] <lastnode> surface, dapper doesnt ask you about grub
[12:24] <micahcowan> iow, there were still edgy-specific assumtpions in it.
[12:24] <gourdin> micahcowan: ok, we just have to wait so ;)
[12:24] <tempest> surface, If I was asked I would have said yes but I don't remember being asked tbh
[12:24] <surface> lastnode:  oh... sorry i donno.
[12:24] <Moodles> does anyone know how to access remote windows shares from a terminal?
[12:24] <tempest> I installed last night
[12:24] <gourdin> micahcowan: thx for the info
[12:25] <surface> tempest:  did u change ur hdd location or remove cdromm or switch ur hdd and cdrom?
[12:25] <micahcowan> Moodles, smbmount.
[12:25] <decherdt> !smbmount
[12:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smbmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <tempest> no.
[12:25] <tempest> made no hardware changes since install
[12:26] <surface> Moodles:  the easies way is open nautilus type smb://windows-ip
[12:26] <micahcowan> Moodles, I'm not /entirely/ sure what package it's in. smbfs looks like a good candidate. Otherwise, try apt-cache search ^samba
[12:26] <E-bola> Did anybody know if ubuntu work with video streaming websites by default?
[12:26] <peija-kas> no
[12:26] <Moodles> ok
[12:26] <peija-kas> u need to installl multimedia codecs
[12:26] <micahcowan> surface, I didn't know you could do that with nautilus. Do you have to have smbfs or something similar installed?
[12:27] <peija-kas> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/  installs drivers, codecs, flash, java etc
[12:27] <E-bola> sounds great
[12:27] <peija-kas> E-bola use that easyubuntu script ot easily get all video stuff etc
[12:27] <E-bola> its not included in the normal ubuntu dist?
[12:27] <tempest> micahcowan, any suggestions if thats the case?
[12:27] <peija-kas> it fetched them from PEnguin Liberation Front repositories
[12:27] <peija-kas> no, that script is unofficial
[12:27] <E-bola> alright
[12:28] <peija-kas> theyre not included by default because many codecs etc are proprietary
[12:28] <E-bola> ive never used ubuntu before
[12:28] <peija-kas> not open,free software
[12:28] <E-bola> ive run debian servers for 4 years though
[12:28] <peija-kas> so they cant ship them by default
[12:28] <E-bola> but has a friend who woudl like to try linux on his laptop
[12:28] <boink> debian and ubuntu are quite similar
[12:28] <E-bola> peija: ya same goes for debian
[12:28] <micahcowan> tempest, no easy ones. The easiest way to deal with it might be to reinstall :/ ...it's probably possible to boot back into Live CD and chroot into your new Linux partition, and run grub-install from there, but I probably won't be sticking around long enough to step you through that.
[12:28] <surface> micahcowan:  i think no need for access to windows host. i do nothing it comes by default
[12:28] <peija-kas> yup if u used debian ull be at home ;)
[12:28] <boink> ubuntu have changed a few things, but the difference isn't that great
[12:28] <micahcowan> surface, sweet.
[12:29] <surface> micahcowan:  kongkoror can do tat too, but not other file-roller
[12:29] <E-bola> Do you guys think a p4 1,6 ghz laptop with 256 mb ram
[12:29] <peija-kas> yes
[12:29] <E-bola> should be able to surf and watch stremaing videos wityh acceptible performance?
[12:30] <Hor|zon> lol wtf would you use debian unless it was for a server....and wtf would you want debian on a server?
[12:30] <boink> sure, depending on the box
[12:30] <peija-kas> i run Xubuntu on a Thinkpad a21m that has 192 megs mem and a 400 mhz cpu
[12:30] <E-bola> ok
[12:30] <boink> many use debian as a server
[12:30] <E-bola> umm
[12:30] <E-bola> debian is the best server os
[12:30] <peija-kas> i tried Ubuntu w gnome too, but that was sluggish
[12:30] <peija-kas> it worked but slugish
[12:30] <micahcowan> Hor|zon, wth are you talking about? Many, many people use it as either a server or a desktop. And as boink has pointed out, the differences ubuntu has made are not absolutely huge...
[12:30] <boink> if it's your preference, use debian as your server OS
[12:30] <tempest> ok micahcowan. someone actually gave me some instructions earlier but I got stuck trying to mount something as it said I was not root. who am I when running livecd?
[12:31] <peija-kas> so that lappie E-bola shoul be fine
[12:31] <boink> open/free source is about free choice
[12:31] <fdr> hello! I need to rotate a video (mpeg) by 90 ... how can I do? (no, turning the monitor is not a solution :-P) thank you!
[12:31] <E-bola> peija-kas: cant wait to try it :)
[12:31] <boink> ubuntu is linux for human beings :)
[12:31] <peija-kas> what model laptop is it E-bola
[12:31] <micahcowan> tempest, when you need to be root, simply try the command again with "sudo" prefixed to it. Or you can begin a root shell with the command "sudo -i"
[12:31] <E-bola> peija-kas: ibm t30
[12:31] <Hor|zon> big enough to make running debian as a desktop pointless....unless you're looking for a server with a desktop
[12:32] <tempest> ok thanks i'll give that a try
[12:32] <Hor|zon> or are just comfortable with debian and don't wanna use ubuntu
[12:32] <peija-kas> E-bola check this http://www.linux-laptop.net/  Linux on laptops
[12:32] <peija-kas> they have compatibility charts etc
[12:32] <tempest> also does anyone have any idea why ubuntu would freeze when I'm trying to access the net with my wireless
[12:32] <boink> thanks for the url
[12:32] <tempest> using livecd
[12:32] <E-bola> peija-kas: ever watch videos on it?
[12:32] <micahcowan> Hor|zon, running debian as a server doesn't imply you have a desktop installed.
[12:32] <peija-kas> yes
[12:32] <peija-kas> videos work..
[12:32] <tempest> this would be so much easier if i had the net working on ubuntu :/
[12:32] <Hor|zon> obviously
[12:32] <surface> tempest:  dapper u using?
[12:32] <tempest> surface, dapper?
[12:33] <surface> tempest:  i got that too at breezy, it hapens to gaim.
[12:33] <grouchytim> Quick question: is SSH enabled to receive incoming connections straight off the disk? I have edgy.
[12:33] <micahcowan> tempest, Dapper Dan is the code name for Ubuntu 6.06
[12:33] <Hor|zon> where did I say it implied having a desktop? infact I said the opposite
[12:33] <grouchytim> if not how do i start it up?
[12:33] <peija-kas> no ssh server isnt installed by def
[12:33] <surface> tempest:  ur wireles makes hang.
[12:33] <tempest> ah
[12:33] <peija-kas> sudo apt-get install sshd
[12:33] <tempest> latest livecd
[12:33] <peija-kas> installs ssh server daemon
[12:33] <peija-kas> listens by default on def ssh port 22
[12:33] <grouchytim> right
[12:33] <tempest> is there a workaround?
[12:34] <peija-kas> it also has root login enabled by default u should remove that in the conf file
 big enough to make running debian as a desktop pointless....unless you're looking for a server with a desktop
[12:34] <tempest> ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso btw
[12:34] <grouchytim> already took it off
[12:34] <Hor|zon> read up more
[12:34] <Hor|zon> it's out of context
[12:34] <grouchytim> just not sure how to start up ssh
[12:34] <grouchytim> here's the skinny
[12:34] <grouchytim> i can't reach the internet
[12:34] <peija-kas> grouchytim - sshd runs in background after installed
[12:34] <grouchytim> but i can reach the router
[12:35] <grouchytim> and i can ping the ubuntu from the router
[12:35] <peija-kas> ssh conf files are in /etc/ssh/ssh_config and sshd_config
[12:35] <peija-kas> where u can disable root login
[12:35] <grouchytim> "router" is a mandrake computer
[12:35] <micahcowan> Hor|zon, no, it's not. the only other thign you said before that is <Hor|zon> lol wtf would you use debian unless it was for a server....and wtf would you want debian on a server?
[12:35] <peija-kas> ssh client is installed by default
[12:35] <grouchytim> ok so just alter teh config files with vim
[12:35] <Hor|zon> I was saying debian is good for servers, and there are better things to use for servers
[12:35] <peija-kas> just type in console ssh <username>@<ip address>
[12:36] <grouchytim> ahhh
[12:36] <grouchytim> let me give that a shot
[12:36] <micahcowan> debian is a very good choice for many, I don't think it's fruitful to knock it. And there would be no ubuntu if debian dropped dead, since they have several times the numbers of developers we do.
[12:36] <peija-kas> yeah debian is what makes ubuntu possible, no doubt
[12:36] <boink> of course
[12:36] <peija-kas> no debian, npo ubuntu
[12:36] <surface> tempest:  not sure.
[12:36] <grouchytim> says secure connection to xx.xx.xx.xx refused
[12:36] <boink> www.thwarte.com was built on debian too
[12:37] <peija-kas> so lets all thank debain devs ;)
[12:37] <boink> *clap*
[12:37] <peija-kas> grouchytim - u must have ssh disabled on the box u trying to connect to
[12:37] <peija-kas> or it doesnt have ssh server daemon
[12:37] <kalm> doing alot of distros are based on Debian :?
[12:37] <grouchytim> must
[12:37] <Hor|zon> heh I never said it succked...I said there are better choices for a desktop comp...and there are better choices for a server os...in my opinion obviously
[12:37] <grouchytim> so how to start ssh?
[12:37] <boink> kalm: some
[12:37] <peija-kas> install sshd on that box too and its on
[12:37] <Hor|zon> and I only see the sense in using it as a desktop/server....that's what I was saying
[12:37] <peija-kas> or whatever package it is in for mandrake i dunno
[12:37] <elkbuntu> idle chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:38] <Hor|zon> and it's just my opinion
[12:38] <grouchytim> mandrake is setup
[12:38] <grouchytim> been running for several years now
[12:38] <Hor|zon> yeah yeah
[12:38] <_kalm> im having trouble setting up my Ubuntu to run DVD's ? ? ? anyone wanna help me?
[12:38] <grouchytim> logged into it 100's of times
[12:38] <grouchytim> but it just runs
[12:38] <elkbuntu> o.O
[12:38] <peija-kas> ok i see
[12:38] <grouchytim> haven't done an install in a while
[12:39] <peija-kas> then i dunno..did u try to log in with a username that exists on the mandrakje box?
[12:39] <grouchytim> yes
[12:39] <peija-kas> hmm
[12:39] <peija-kas> then i dont know..
[12:40] <grouchytim> ok i was able to ssh INTO the router from ubuntu
[12:40] <E-bola> peija-kas: i cant a list of whats in easyubuntu
[12:40] <E-bola> like what codecs etc
[12:40] <grouchytim> but now i need to get into ubuntu from the router
[12:40] <E-bola> mainly wondierign if they include wmv and wma support
[12:40] <peija-kas> E-bola .. it has win 32 codecs
[12:40] <peija-kas> but its not perfect
[12:40] <peija-kas> but uknow, not all wmas work on windows either ;)
[12:40] <boink> I think it's best to install mplayer yourself
[12:40] <peija-kas> so fair enuff
[12:40] <E-bola> vlc recently started uspporting wmv natively
[12:40] <peija-kas> VLC player
[12:40] <boink> compile it yourself
[12:40] <peija-kas> is best imho
[12:40] <E-bola> via ffmpeg and the reference decoder
[12:41] <E-bola> ya ive been involved with vlc for 3 years :)
[12:41] <peija-kas> when u have w 32 codecs and vlc most work
[12:41] <boink> does the ubuntun VLC support wma/wmv?
[12:41] <peija-kas> not outta box, qith codecs
[12:41] <boink> ok
[12:41] <E-bola> but our firefox plugin doesnt work with the big video sites win32 browser codes as far as i know
[12:41] <peija-kas> easyubuntu scrpts/PLF repos w32 codecs enable it with vlc
[12:41] <E-bola> hmm thats no good
[12:41] <peija-kas> yeh the firefox support aint grat
[12:41] <E-bola> i need support embedded int he browser
[12:41] <boink> you need to compile it yourself
[12:41] <peija-kas> VLC has plugin for browser
[12:42] <Code-E> !tell Code-E about tar
[12:42] <boink> there are guides for that
[12:42] <peija-kas> im not sure how well it works...some sites work some dont
[12:42] <E-bola> yes, but it doesnt work if the page is scripted for windows media player
[12:42] <E-bola> do u have it installed?
[12:42] <peija-kas> then u need to install IE4Linux
[12:42] <surface> i like mplayer and xine
[12:42] <E-bola> coudl soembody try www.break.com
[12:42] <peija-kas> ill try E-bola
[12:42] <surface> mplayer plugin works fine with firefox
[12:43] <E-bola> surface: can u try www.break.com
[12:43] <E-bola> see if u guys can play it from ubuntu
[12:43] <E-bola> without manualy copying url's etc
[12:43] <surface> E-bola:  oops using fc5 now.
[12:43] <boink> are the audio codecs the only patent problem with ubuntu at the moment?
[12:43] <peija-kas> nah break.com dont work on me
[12:43] <Code-E> How do you install tar.gz files
[12:44] <E-bola> :(
[12:44] <botxj> where do i find stddef.h ?
[12:44] <holycow> boink, its not an ubuntu problem
[12:44] <boink> I know that
[12:44] <holycow> boink, its a patent system problem
[12:44] <boink> yes
[12:44] <holycow> :) k jus makin sure
[12:44] <myatthu> Code-E, you got to tar -zxvf file .. then ./configure,make,make install ...
[12:44] <boink> but if you install ubuntu, are there other things to be aware of with the same problem?
[12:44] <holycow> boink, a whole lot of codecs are encumbered by patents, a lot of audio and video codecs
[12:44] <boink> yeah :/
[12:45] <boink> ok, ta holycow
[12:45] <dchiriac>  /server irc.lug.ro
[12:45] <holycow> boink, by default ubuntu does not install anything that is non-free, thus sasfe in countries with such issues
[12:45] <grouchytim> thanx peija-kas for your help
[12:45] <peija-kas> np
[12:45] <grouchytim> still broke though lol
[12:46] <peija-kas> lol
[12:46] <grouchytim> i'll figure it out one day
[12:46] <grouchytim> thanx
[12:46] <peija-kas> did u check ssh_config and sshd_config in /etc/ssh? on both boxes?
[12:46] <Cyball> can somebody help me : i've tried now to reboot my computer after reconfigure wlan in /etc/network/interfaces and it connects ones the computer is started after that it doesn't
[12:47] <Code-E> !tell Cod-E about rar
[12:47] <grouchytim> nope
[12:47] <peija-kas> so theres nothing that causes them to not connect grouchytim
[12:47] <Code-E> !tell Code-E about rar
[12:47] <grouchytim> but i think i can
[12:47] <ketsugi> !rar
[12:47] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:47] <Yaakov> Howdy.  I just installed kubuntu on a ThinkPad T30 with almost complete success.  The problem I am having is with sleep/hibernate functions.  The OS seems to be unable to read the lid switch and doesn't offer and hibernation options that I can spot.  Anyone have any leads, clues or advice?
[12:47] <grouchytim> no i did it from router to ubuntu
[12:47] <grouchytim> just won't reverse
[12:47] <grouchytim> ubuntu refuses connection
[12:48] <peija-kas> then most likely something in ubuntus sshd_config..do u have the sshd daemon running? check in System monitor etc
[12:48] <rouven> hi. why is there no loopback device on edgy?
[12:49] <myatthu> rouven, you mean 127.0.0.1 aka localhost ?
[12:49] <rouven> myatthu, yes.
[12:49] <grouchytim> says it's sleeping
[12:49] <peija-kas> = is on
[12:49] <grouchytim> ssh-agent is sleeping
[12:49] <myatthu> what you get when you do ifconfig ?
[12:49] <peija-kas> sshd is the daemon
[12:49] <scrp> is anyone familiar with VMware?
[12:49] <grouchytim> if sleeping is running right?
[12:49] <peija-kas> yes i use vmware
[12:49] <peija-kas> yes sleeping is running
[12:50] <grouchytim> so it's waiting for a connection
[12:50] <surface> scrp:  any problem with vmware?
[12:50] <peija-kas> yup
[12:50] <Yaakov> grouchytim: try netstat -a and see if it is listening.
[12:50] <rouven> myatthu, module loop is loaded, /etc/init.d/loop started, but there is no lo.
[12:50] <scrp> where does Ubuntu store configuration files for eth0 and all that
[12:50] <grouchytim> ok
[12:50] <boink> scrp: /etc/network/interfaces
[12:50] <scrp> surface: well i have so many vmnets lol, just want to get rid of few from bootup
[12:50] <myatthu> rouven, try sudo ifup lo
[12:50] <peija-kas> oh i havent made/removed vmnets..dunno howto
[12:50] <grouchytim> yes ssh is listening
[12:51] <kaypax> hi all
[12:51] <scrp> surface: i have like eth0, eth1, vmnet1, vmnet2 and vmnet8 all in ifconfig
[12:51] <grouchytim> Yaakov ssh is listening
[12:51] <Yaakov> grouchytim: Can you ssh from the box itself to it's outside interface?
[12:51] <rouven> myatthu, "Ignoring unknown interface lo=lo."
[12:51] <Cyball> can somebody help me with RT2500 WLAN i get a connection only during computer starting after i can't connect to WLAN router
[12:51] <peija-kas> grouchytim like ssh to the same box
[12:51] <kaypax> I'm new to Ubuntu, so, could any1 tell me how to get root access to the system?
[12:51] <Yaakov> lo0
[12:51] <grouchytim> no i can't get past the router but i can ssh into the router
[12:51] <myatthu> wha
[12:51] <peija-kas> kaypax use sudo in front of command
[12:52] <myatthu> unknown interface
[12:52] <peija-kas> then it asks for pasword
[12:52] <boink> !tell kaypax about sudo
[12:52] <Yaakov> grouchytim: No, from the machine, ssh to it's OWN address.
[12:52] <grouchytim> hmm good one
[12:52] <grouchytim> i'll try it now
[12:52] <Yaakov> Are there any laptop-clued people that might show up here at some point during the day?
[12:52] <myatthu> rouven, then its out of my league ... let me search on google see if i can get the solution
[12:53] <grouchytim> says secure connection refused but it thought about it for a while
[12:53] <peija-kas> then the prob is at Ubuntu box :)
[12:53] <surface> scrp:  me have 2 vmnett too what is the prob?
[12:53] <Yaakov> grouchytim: Do you have the firewall set to block 22?
[12:53] <grouchytim> i figured
[12:53] <grouchytim> i dunno
[12:53] <grouchytim> where do i check that
[12:53] <Yaakov> iptables -F
[12:53] <peija-kas> install firestarter for an easy GUI
[12:53] <grouchytim> wait one
[12:53] <peija-kas> sudo apt-get install firestarter
[12:54] <scrp> surface: i dont want them :o, i only need 1 vmnet, the rest isnt used i think
[12:54] <Yaakov> If it works after that, you need to fix the firewall configuration.
[12:54] <myatthu> yup i also recommend firestarter ... or learn iptables :P
[12:54] <surface> firestarter is not a nice firewall
[12:54] <scrp> iptalbes rules!
[12:54] <peija-kas> Firestarter is a lot easier thou ;)
[12:54] <surface> but uit us east
[12:54] <scrp> iptables is teh shiznit
[12:54] <rouven> myatthu, seems to be my error, sorry.
[12:54] <Yaakov> Webmin's interface to iptables can be helpful.
[12:54] <surface> scrp:  reconfigure vmplayer will do
[12:54] <grouchytim> didn't work after that
[12:54] <peija-kas> i can read iptables a little, but make my own rules? ha :D
[12:54] <myatthu> your error ?
[12:54] <rouven> myatthu, commented out ifac lo in inteaces and forgot about that.
[12:54] <scrp> peija-kas: its rather simple
[12:55] <myatthu> haaa ok ...
[12:55] <Yaakov> peija-kas: Try webmin's interface, it makes things much easier.
[12:55] <Cyball> does nobody know anything about rt2500 wlan ??? i
[12:55] <Code-E> I'm trying to install winrar here, but its just not letting me
[12:55] <Yaakov> peija-kas: It is pure iptables, just a rule-writer.
[12:55] <grouchytim> Yaakov it didn't work after that either
[12:55] <peija-kas> Yaakov: for my purposes, firestarter works well :)
[12:55] <scrp> surface: hmm vmplayer you say
[12:55] <Yaakov> peija-kas: OK.
[12:55] <surface> wb mypapit
[12:56] <mypapit> ty surface
[12:56] <surface> (:
[12:56] <codecaine> why everytime you update and install something flash always come up erroring
[12:56] <_lyte_> surface: I got it working now after the build-essentials installation :)
[12:56] <surface> mypapit: have a nice sleep?
[12:56] <Yaakov> peija-kas: For the record: webmin, webmin-core and webmin-firewall are the packages you want.
[12:56] <peija-kas> http://www.ducea.com/2006/07/03/using-fail2ban-to-block-brute-force-attacks/  good article for securing your remote login accounts
[12:56] <Yaakov> peija-kas: If you feel moved to try it.
[12:56] <surface> _lyte_:  alright
[12:56] <_lyte_> micahcowan: thanx
[12:56] <peija-kas> Yaakov ill see them
[12:57] <rlandi1> this is my first time on need a few pointers
[12:57] <Code-E> CAn someone tell me how I can cd to my home folder
[12:57] <Code-E> :S
[12:57] <peija-kas> fail2ban follows logs and blocks ips when someone tries to login with wrong login/pw for enough times
[12:57] <Yaakov> *sigh*  I had high hopes for kubuntu on my T30, but if it can't sleep or hibernate it's not very useful.
[12:57] <peija-kas> Code-E "cd"
[12:57] <SonicvanaJr>  /away School
[12:57] <peija-kas> and it goes to current users jhome
[12:57] <surface> Code-E:  just cd
[12:57] <mypapit> surface: yeah, actually i was out just now
[12:57] <Code-E> but that brings me to the deskto
[12:57] <Code-E> p*
[12:57] <scrp> mmk ima try to delete /etc/vmware/vmnet* and use the config again
[12:58] <Yaakov> grouchytim: Your problem doesn't make a lot of sense, it is hard to understand what might be causing it with the information I have.
[12:58] <scrp> hope that will do the trick
[12:58] <surface> Code-E:  cd ~urname
[12:58] <Code-E> ok
[12:58] <grouchytim> yeah i get that alot the last few days
[12:58] <codecaine> how can you makea window minimize like gaim when you hit exit on it
[12:58] <scrp> peija-kas: the best way to protect against failed logins are firewalls
[12:58] <TeePOG> no Code-E... it shows you the subdirectory called Desktop, as a listing of the /home/username directory
[12:58] <grouchytim> anyway i'll be back after 5 eastern to hack away at it some more
[12:58] <Code-E> ok
[12:58] <peija-kas> scrp - firewall is no help when u have a ssh port open so u can login :)
[12:59] <grouchytim> thanx for your help all
[12:59] <Code-E> And how do I extract rar files
[12:59] <peija-kas> of course i have firewall, with port 22 open so I can login ;)
[12:59] <Code-E> the command unrar isn't working
[12:59] <scrp> peija-kas: thats why we filter port 22 open only to known ips
[12:59] <kaypax> well, I dun wanna be anoying, so I'm just gonna ask for a tutorial for Ubuntu, or at least for Linux in general
[12:59] <peija-kas> scrp - i need access from anywhere
[12:59] <myatthu> Code-E, i use unrar .. it is in the repo
[12:59] <surface> codecaine:  recode gaim to make that. :P
[12:59] <kaypax> could any1 point me to the right direction?
[12:59] <grouchytim> yeah i think i need to alter that table
[12:59] <peija-kas> universit, cafes etc
[12:59] <grouchytim> anyway
[12:59] <grouchytim> thanx again
[12:59] <grouchytim> see ya'll later tonight
[12:59] <seanh> Hi all - I want to use the command notify-send, does anyone know what package I need to install first? I've forgotten
[12:59] <codecaine> have no ideal how to do it
[12:59] <boink> kaypax: www.ubuntu.com is a good start
[12:59] <Code-E> myatthu i just installed that
[12:59] <Code-E> but when i type unrar in the terminal
[12:59] <kaypax> ok^^
[12:59] <Code-E> it doesn't do anything
[12:59] <surface> code-e rar e filename.rar
[01:00] <myatthu> Code-E, then try this unrar -x file.rar
[01:00] <boink> the documentation is written very well
[01:00] <surface> Code-E:   rar e filename.rar
[01:00] <Code-E> bash: unrar: command not found
[01:00] <kaypax> ok, thanx boik
[01:00] <Code-E> bash: rar: command not found
[01:00] <peija-kas> so fail2ban is good for this - i need to login from any ip myself, but if someone tries 5 failed logins, the ip will be banned permanently until i unban it
[01:00] <surface> Code-E:  sudo apt-get install rar
[01:01] <myatthu> ah both will extract .... interesting
[01:01] <peija-kas> fail2ban adds the ip to iptables chains
[01:01] <Code-E> Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:01] <Code-E> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:01] <Code-E> is only available from another source
[01:01] <scrp> peija-kas: i dont trust any problem with my firewall :S
[01:01] <peija-kas> it can be configured for timed bans also, and for other protocols..it can follow any log u want
[01:01] <Yaakov> peija-kas: I just move my sshd to a different port--though that doesn't work well if you are behind a firewall that only allows 22.
[01:01] <scrp> peija-kas: you can also just stealth the port, or change the port
[01:01] <scrp> brb reboobing
[01:01] <peija-kas> also my wife needs to login from university..they allow port 22 only
[01:02] <Yaakov> peija-kas: But the fail2ban program looks nice, I am working on something very similar but ditributed.
[01:02] <Yaakov> s
[01:02] <peija-kas> ive tested it a little and it works nice
[01:02] <Code-E> I did sudo apt-get install unrar-free earlier
[01:02] <Code-E> and it installed
[01:02] <Code-E> but i can't unrar anything
[01:02] <peija-kas> i only have it follow ssh login tries since i have no other services open
[01:02] <Yaakov> Any machine on my subnet that gets hit will announce the address and it is blackholed on all the machines.
[01:03] <surface> Code-E:  aya my ubuntu is not with me, try to apt-cache search rar and see
[01:03] <bikstopa> hii
[01:03] <surface> anyone who have rar, pls dpkg -S `which rar`
[01:03] <unni> hello
[01:03] <bionoid> it's in package 'rar'.
[01:04] <rlandi1> hello unni
[01:04] <unni> rlandi1 hello
[01:04] <Code-E> E: Invalid operation cache
[01:04] <Yaakov> "unrar" is the non-free version, according to apt-cache.
[01:04] <surface> Code-E:  somehow i get it from a repo,
[01:05] <rlandi1> unni new to this just trying to make contact my first time on
[01:05] <Yaakov> Oops, he... left.
[01:05] <surface> i am not sure unrar, one time my unrar doesn't works at nautilus, so i use rar e
[01:05] <xxzx> #ubuntu-cn
[01:05] <unni> rlandi1 ur from
[01:06] <voraistos> hey guys. I am thinking about buying a video capture card... Of course i need it to work fine with ubuntu, where can i find a list of nice working stuff
[01:06] <rlandi1> unni massachusettes
[01:06] <Yaakov> OK, pardon the spam-like behavior, please...
[01:06] <Yaakov> Howdy.  I just installed kubuntu on a ThinkPad T30 with almost complete success.  The problem I am having is with sleep/hibernate functions.  The OS seems to be unable to read the lid switch and doesn't offer and hibernation options that I can spot.  Anyone have any leads, clues or advice?
[01:06] <fyrestrtr> voraistos: at the website of mythtv.
[01:06] <Yaakov> (one last go)
[01:07] <rlandi1> unni running a omnibook 4100 with external modem
[01:07] <voraistos> cheers firestarter
[01:07] <unni> yes
[01:08] <rlandi1> unni where u from
[01:08] <unni> india
[01:08] <unni> can u go to im chat
[01:09] <rlandi1> I think so
[01:09] <boink> there's #ubuntu-offtopic too
[01:09] <surface> there is #ubuntu-my too
[01:10] <boink> if you speak Bahasa Malay, sure :)
[01:11] <surface> nah, boink they speak english.
[01:11] <fyrestrtr> Yaakov: check the laptop wiki
[01:12] <Yaakov> fyrestrtr: Do you have a URL?
[01:13] <fyrestrtr> !laptop
[01:13] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[01:13] <Yaakov> fyrestrtr: Thanks.
[01:14] <MistaED> hey, i have a question: i've moved dapper from one drive to another (hda6 to sda3, being hd(0,5) to hd(0,2)) with 90% success. the only problem i have now is whenever i update/add a kernel, it completely clears out my changes in menu.lst to the ones it had before (hda6/hd(0,5) instead of sda3/(hd0,2)) cheers
[01:14] <davvs_> how do i know what disk is mountet at a specific folder?
[01:14] <MistaED> *is there a certain script which is run everytime i update for grub which contains these settings and where could it be?
[01:15] <fyrestrtr> type mount davvs_
[01:15] <davvs_> ok, thanks fyrestrtr
[01:15] <fyrestrtr> MistaED: the instructions on how to customize the grub menu list are in the comments in menu.lst
[01:16] <znull> dapper is still using gnome 2.14.?
[01:16] <MistaED> fyrestrtr: yeah but whenever i update the kernel my menu.lst is hosed with the old settings
[01:17] <silent_scream> i performed a "killall gnome-panel" an all the icons of the systray disappeared!! how can i make them appear again????
[01:17] <boink> isn't there grub-update or something like that
[01:17] <devilsadvocate> silent_scream : is a restart out of the question .... ?
[01:18] <silent_scream> so every time i refresh gnome i have to restart?
[01:18] <fyrestrtr> silent_scream: gnome-panel &
[01:18] <fyrestrtr> silent_scream: and, just FYI, that's *not* how you refresh gnome (whatever tha heck that means)
[01:18] <MistaED> boink: i'll check
[01:19] <silent_scream> FYI ? ? ?
[01:19] <devilsadvocate> erm.. silent_scream : log out and log back in to restart gnome
[01:19] <devilsadvocate> dont kill random processes
[01:19] <boink> MistaED: I hope I'm on the right track here .. after updating grub, there could be an utility called update-grup or something like that
[01:19] <unfknblvbl> if the current nv driver does not work can i just download a driver of nvidia.com to install my gfx ?
[01:20] <fyrestrtr> what do you mean it doesn't work?
[01:20] <unfknblvbl> s/off/of
[01:20] <unfknblvbl> well
[01:20] <unfknblvbl> when i set it as nv the system has a fit
[01:20] <anto9us> how do I make a dos floppy disk bootable?
[01:20] <unfknblvbl> and the screen goes blocky sorta
[01:20] <MistaED> boink: yes there is, now to find a /etc/* :D
[01:20] <GnarusLeo> Wich command showes where my current cellphones are connected in /dev/ again??
[01:21] <silent_scream> i'm sorry could you tell me again how to restore systray icons? cause gnome-panel & didn't work..
[01:21] <opexoc> Can you tell me what directory can I use for my startup scritps?
[01:22] <devilsadvocate> silent_scream  : log out, log back in
[01:22] <fyrestrtr> silent_scream: what did you do before they dissapeared?
[01:22] <devilsadvocate> and next time
[01:22] <silent_scream> killall gnome-panel fyrestrtr
[01:22] <fyrestrtr> unfknblvbl: what video card do you have?
[01:22] <devilsadvocate> DONT killall gnome-panel to refresh gnome :|
[01:22] <unfknblvbl> fyrestrtr:  GeForce 6800 GS 512 MB
[01:22] <fyrestrtr> silent_scream: logout, then hit ctrl+alt+backspace, then login again.
[01:22] <silent_scream> devilsadvocate, ubuntuguide says so i didn't make it out of my mind
[01:23] <fyrestrtr> unfknblvbl: that driver should work fine for you. However, if you really feel the need to install the binary driver from nvidia.com, the instructions are available at the wiki.
[01:23] <unfknblvbl> k
[01:23] <fyrestrtr> silent_scream: what are you trying to do anyway?
[01:23] <fyrestrtr> !nvidia > unfknblvbl
[01:23] <silent_scream> nothing importand, i just wanted to know
[01:24] <unfknblvbl> thankyou
[01:24] <HetaUma> Hi I'm making a net install of ubuntu right now. Can I somehow see the download speed of my network ?
[01:24] <dennda> hi. i found some bugs in edgy. were may i post them? i remember there is an option on launchpad.net to do so but i don't find it.
[01:24] <DennyCrane> hey guys, any way of fixing a b0rked ntfs disk from linux? tools etc?
[01:24] <jrib> dennda: #ubuntu+1 is for edgy discussion, bugs are at bugs.ubuntu.com
[01:25] <silent_scream> anyway, last question. when i run a prog through wine i.e. utorrent, some fonts are missing. how can i change that???
[01:25] <dennda> jrib, thank you
[01:26] <ekorion> silent, try to install msttcorefonts? Not sure if it will help
[01:26] <silent_scream> yep they are installed
[01:26] <fyrestrtr> DennyCrane: depends what's broke in it.
[01:26] <Nilvio> enyone know how i get my ati drivers back ? i got something ubuntu update and then my ati drivers changed mesa enyone can help mee ?
[01:27] <fyrestrtr> Nilvio: you need to re-install them. You probably got a kernel upgrade.
[01:27] <Nilvio> i have re-installed
[01:27] <Nilvio> but they not channed
[01:27] <fyrestrtr> Nilvio: how did you install them in the first place?
[01:27] <mabus> Hey... I exported xterm-256color as my term, so I could use elinks in color. It works, so I decided to make it so my .bashrc sets these variables when I load up. However, I get an error saying "Error opening terminal: xterm-256color." when I go to `nano ~/.bashrc`... any idea why?
[01:27] <Nilvio> that one good site not work
[01:28] <Nilvio> where is install help
[01:28] <ekorion> has anyone ever set up ircd-hybrid?
[01:28] <unfknblvbl> how would i find out what kernel i'm running ?
[01:28] <jrib> unfknblvbl: uname -r
[01:28] <boink> uname -a
[01:28] <unfknblvbl> thankyou again
[01:28] <fyrestrtr> mabus: the TERM= value in .bashrc is not the same thing as what terminal emulator runs.
[01:28] <finalbeta> dennda, edgy = #ubuntu+1 and you need to report the bugs not in the edgy branch on launchpad, but in ubuntu on general https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug , please search if the buigs has not been reported yet.
[01:29] <jrib> !ati > Nilvio
[01:29] <Nilvio> !ati
[01:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:29] <mabus> fyrestrtr: well regardless, that happens when I try to open .bashrc. So I haven't edited it yet...
[01:29] <Nilvio> not work that site
[01:29] <Yaakov> fyrestrtr: Thanks for the pointer, I got a little closer but it is still not working.  I can invest just a bit more time into it, so I have some hope. :)
[01:30] <fyrestrtr> mabus: because, xterm-256color is not a valid value for TERM.
[01:30] <mabus> fyrestrtr: well, it works with elinks? :/
[01:31] <mabus> What's a solution that keeps elinks in color, and everything... functioning?
[01:31] <MistaED> fyrestrtr: alright i took notice of the menu.lst's #'d info, and found update-grub actually reads that stuff, i'm sort of automatically tuned to that programs would ignore anything which is commented out, but it seems to be not the case with this
[01:31] <unfknblvbl> @ everyone: thankyou very much for your help guys
[01:32] <MistaED> thanks boink and fyrestrtr ;)
[01:32] <botxj> your'e welcome
[01:32] <botxj> all are welcome
[01:32] <boink> :)
[01:32] <botxj> especially you boink
[01:32] <botxj> good job boink :)
[01:32] <boink> I'll give myself a medal :P
[01:32] <botxj> a penguin medal
[01:32] <MistaED> of epic proportions
[01:35] <Nilvio> i have installed ati drivers but that say i use mesa drivers what file i need config if i want use that ati drivers ?
[01:36] <ikonia> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:36] <ikonia> select ati or radeon depending on what you want
[01:37] <Nilvio> ikonia i have do that but that my computer doesnt use ati drivers
[01:38] <codecaine> how can I get of the flash glitch during install?
[01:38] <DennyCrane> fyrestrtr: got broken when someone put in a recovery disk and knakered the partition table etc before killing execution of the disk. Have fixed the mbr and boot (according to windows) Ironically all this happened because the fella was moving "unmoveable" files so he can put ubuntu on the laptop
[01:38] <ikonia> select the ati drivers
[01:39] <Nilvio> yes i have selected
[01:39] <malice> Could anyone out there point me to a url that will explain how to install lsongs on my ubuntu machine. I am a newbie and I installed everything up to pyxine and I can not get that to install or these pyid3lib, pynjb
[01:39] <Nilvio> but fglrxinfo says you use mesa drivers
[01:39] <carlos_> joing ubuntu-br
[01:39] <ikonia> then its using the driver you have selected
[01:39] <ikonia> malice have you checked the wiki
[01:40] <Nilvio> i have taked ati
[01:40] <Nilvio> but it says
[01:40] <Nilvio> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[01:40] <Nilvio> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[01:40] <Nilvio> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[01:40] <Nilvio> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)
[01:40] <Nilvio> and my games not working
[01:40] <malice> ikonia I will again
[01:40] <malice> I do not think I saw anything
[01:40] <nopx90> hey anyone used DC_GUI_2? is it better or worse than valknut?
[01:41] <devilsadvocate> nopx90 : have you tried ldcpp?
[01:41] <carlos_> which package do you recommend me for configure and monitor my wireless?
[01:41] <jpjacobs> !paste>Nilvio
[01:41] <Nilvio> sry
[01:41] <Nilvio> i only wanna get my games work
[01:41] <nopx90> devilsadvocate, nope... only thing i've tried is valknut which i hate
[01:42] <devilsadvocate> nopx90 : try ldcpp
[01:42] <devilsadvocate> the install instructions are in the ubuntuguide
[01:42] <nopx90> devilsadvocate, ok thanks
[01:42] <fourat> i've installed pdnsd on the gateway server to serv and cache dns queries, and to use the gateway's /etc/hosts file so i can share some domains in my lan, i got a problem that i cant resolve till now, i have defined a domain in the gateway's /etc/hosts file, 'dig'ing it from a client pc: it resolves, pinging, dont resolve: see this: http://pastebin.ca/178580
[01:42] <fdr> can you please recommend me an audio editor for gnome? thanks! :-)
[01:42] <devilsadvocate> carlos_ what wireless chipset you you have?
[01:43] <carlos_> devilsadvocate: 802.11b/g
[01:43] <NET||abuse> hmm, anyone know how i can get quicktime video/h.264 to work??
[01:43] <ArtVandalae> Hi, I want to install a program from edgy (just spim) but it needs libc6 the newest version, how can I install it, so the least amount of packages are pulled down? Or is it dangerous to be playing with libc?
[01:43] <devilsadvocate> carlos : open a terminal
[01:43] <devilsadvocate> type lspci
[01:44] <silent_scream> how can i make .exe programs to open with wine via double click?
[01:44] <lastnode> silent_scream, compile them for win32?
[01:44] <devilsadvocate> carlos : in the output, find your wireless adapter. It is likely to be towards the end
[01:44] <melon> ok - this doesn't make sense.. what am i missing? i've attempted to install flash - using the add/remove thingie.. flash is still not installed.. did i miss a step completely? if so.. any directions would be awesome
[01:45] <fyrestrtr> !flash
[01:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:45] <devilsadvocate> melon : you've installed the flash-player
[01:45] <nopx90> melon, there is a bug in the flash plugin atm
[01:45] <nopx90> not sure if that's what your problem is
[01:45] <melon> it's supposed to be the one firefox uses
[01:46] <devilsadvocate> ok
[01:46] <nopx90> yeah that sounds about right... i'm unable to install it aswell
[01:46] <zaggynl> What's the program 'Wish' ? When I look in Firestarter I see some connections made by it, protocol unknown, port 1863
[01:46] <devilsadvocate> i've had loads of trouble installing flash as well
[01:46] <melon> i'm very wet behind the ears - apologies if my info doesn't tell u what the problem is
[01:46] <nopx90> melon, either downgrade or wait couple of days... should be fixed soon
[01:46] <tempest> using livecd I'm trying to mount a partition (ext3 with ubuntu installed on it) but I get something like 'mount point /media/sda6 not found' when I type 'mount /dev/sda6 /media/sda6'. am i doing something wrong
[01:46] <carlos_> devilsadvocate: I found id ->  0000:02:04:0 Ethernet controller Pro/WIreless 2200BG
[01:47] <carlos_> devilsadvocate: I found id ->  0000:02:04:0 Network controller Pro/WIreless 2200BG
[01:47] <devilsadvocate> k
[01:47] <devilsadvocate> one sec
[01:47] <guard952> tempest: sudo mkdir /media/sda6
[01:47] <codecaine> when I do tightviewer in full screen all my other computer doesn't fight on the screen how can I fix this?
[01:47] <myatthu> tempest, you got to create the directory first ... mkdir sda6 or whatever the name you fancy
[01:48] <tempest> oh. guess I just assumed it'd be done in the process
[01:48] <tempest> thank you both
[01:49] <schierbeck> hello
[01:49] <manmadha> can any one tell how lock the cdrom......whith giving no read permissions....can any one tell the process....
[01:49] <devilsadvocate> carlos -
[01:49] <devilsadvocate> its supposed to work out of the boxx
[01:50] <schierbeck> ive got some problems installing ubuntu on my amd64 machine
[01:50] <schierbeck> im trying to install the 32 bit version
[01:50] <malice> Ok, when installing lsongs on my system it stops the install with this: OSError: [Errno 13]  Permission denied: '/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/Lsongs
[01:50] <schierbeck> but i just get a black screen when the livecd has loaded
[01:50] <carlos_> devilsadvocate: sorry.. didn`t understand
[01:50] <malice> any ideas?
[01:50] <devilsadvocate> carlos : have you tried connecting to a network?
[01:50] <devilsadvocate> it might be working already :)
[01:50] <manmadha> can any one tell how lock the cdrom......whith giving no read permissions....can any one tell the process....
[01:50] <devilsadvocate> make sure your wireless is turned on.. if you have any hardware switch
[01:51] <fyrestrtr> manmadha: you can't write to the cdrom, unless its a blank and you have a writer.
[01:51] <guard952> manmadha: unplug the IDE cable.
[01:51] <melon> lol
[01:51] <devilsadvocate> manmadha - you need to fiddle around with fstab. if you do, make sure you keep a backup safe.. very safe
[01:51] <devilsadvocate> even then i wont recommend it
[01:51] <devilsadvocate> unless you know what you're doing
[01:52] <schierbeck> i could use some help
[01:52] <devilsadvocate> ifconfig
[01:52] <fourat> i've installed pdnsd on the gateway server to serv and cache dns queries, and to use the gateway's /etc/hosts file so i can share some domains in my lan, i got a problem that i cant resolve till now, i have defined a domain in the gateway's /etc/hosts file, 'dig'ing it from a client pc: it resolves, pinging, dont resolve: see this: http://pastebin.ca/178580
[01:52] <devilsadvocate> carlos... u here?
[01:52] <malice> Ok, when installing lsongs on my system it stops the install with this: OSError: [Errno 13]  Permission denied: '/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/Lsongs
[01:53] <manmadha> devilsadvocate, ya....is there another process...because i think modifying fstab is painful process.....
[01:53] <devilsadvocate> schierbeck: i'd love to help, but i havent really used 64 bit much
[01:54] <schierbeck> well, perhaps its just because im using an old monitor
[01:54] <schierbeck> it shows the progress bar, but when it's finished, it goes black
[01:54] <schierbeck> how do i enter text mode?
[01:54] <devilsadvocate> schierbeck : try doing this
[01:55] <schierbeck> kernel boot arg?
[01:55] <devilsadvocate> while booting
[01:55] <devilsadvocate> select advanced options
[01:55] <malice> I take it know one knows this problem then
[01:55] <malice> ?
[01:55] <devilsadvocate> remove the splash and the quiet kernel args
[01:55] <mads-> Hey, My screen refresh rate is 85 MHz, and I can't change in Screen Resolution program - how do I then change it?
[01:55] <devilsadvocate> malice : try running the command as sudo
[01:56] <malice> ok I will try that
[01:56] <schierbeck> devilsadvocate, thanks, i'll try that.
[01:57] <devilsadvocate> carlos : if you are here, please run ifconfig in the terminal an tell me what your wireless networ is called : it will be eth0 or eth1 or wlan0 or somthing
[01:57] <RichiH> bitch
[01:57] <RichiH> erm
[01:58] <devilsadvocate> wow what just happened?
[01:58] <RichiH> bitch wore b33r doris isfor heh crack feel gold tcp xpg follow bf nofear ice cop solder live DAL et al
[01:58] <manmadha> devilsadvocate, ya....is there another process...because i think modifying fstab is painful process.....
[01:58] <RichiH> can you convince me you are not spambots?
[01:58] <mads-> Hey, My screen refresh rate is 85 MHz, and I can't change in Screen Resolution program - how do I then change it?
[01:58] <devilsadvocate> manmadha : i dont think so
[01:58] <devilsadvocate> mads : what is your current resolution?
[01:58] <C-O-L-T> where is the gnome themes folder in my system?
[01:58] <C-O-L-T> in which directory?
[01:59] <jrib> C-O-L-T: ~/.themes/ or /usr/share/themes/ for system-wide
[01:59] <jpjacobs> C-O-L-T, under.themes i think
[01:59] <jpjacobs> damn spambots
[02:00] <C-O-L-T> jrib: thanks
[02:00] <xinted> man
[02:00] <xinted> who are all these
[02:00] <xinted> so damned
[02:00] <RichiH> well, well, they could not convince me
[02:00] <manmadha> net is fuzzy...
[02:00] <devilsadvocate> what the hell was that?
[02:00] <RichiH> oi alindeman
[02:00] <RichiH> xinted: bots
[02:01] <James__> infected windows machienes
[02:01] <JackONeill> Is there a site for checking what hardware is good/bad with linux?
[02:01] <James__> thats what that is
[02:01] <manmadha> devilsadvocate, i think the servers are changing
[02:01] <xinted> well ye at least now its good for the eyes
[02:01] <manmadha> JackONeill, ya it is better
[02:02] <pere_> What is the command for installing java (so that I can run command line jar-files)?
[02:02] <jrib> !java > pere_
[02:02] <devilsadvocate> jackone : the ubuntuwiki has a tested hardware list somewhere
[02:02] <JackONeill> manmadha, what is better?
[02:02] <JackONeill> Too many people called Jack
[02:02] <manmadha> devilsadvocate, he i just changed the cdroms permissions then it works...
[02:02] <zaggynl_> whoa
[02:03] <devilsadvocate> thats good
[02:03] <manmadha> JackONeill, checking the drivers at login times
[02:03] <devilsadvocate> but does it work every time?
[02:03] <manmadha> yaa
[02:03] <myatthu> pere_, normally i download java from java.sun.com
[02:03] <devilsadvocate> ok
[02:03] <devilsadvocate> nice
[02:03] <manmadha> the root user can only see the contents
[02:03] <devilsadvocate> :)
[02:03] <manmadha> the root user can only see the contents of the cdrom
[02:04] <JackONeill> manmadha? eh!?
[02:05] <_mason> JackONeill: with two L's: I LOVE STARGATE, sorry in advanced for the caps... got every episode from every season hi-def dvd-rips
[02:05] <hikenboot> hello all---I was suggested that ubuntu edgy (6.10) would have germinate-update-metapackage...it does not and it doesnt appear to be available in its apt-sources list (which is exceptionally short with only 4 entries) was the information I was told wrong?
[02:05] <JackONeill> _mason, two L's the best way :P
[02:06] <jrib> hikenboot: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[02:06] <_mason> watched the entire season atleast 4 times
[02:06] <_mason> grew up on it
[02:06] <hikenboot> thanks jrib
[02:06] <_mason> 'not season, Series!
[02:07] <TealC> JAFFA! Hear me...
[02:07] <TealC> Forgotten what I was going to say now
[02:07] <_mason> Shovaa!
[02:07] <TealC> Telchek nom ra!
[02:07] <idefix_> ccan fastjar hang?
[02:08] <_mason> Tekmatae Master TealC
[02:08] <_mason> 'tekmate
[02:09] <fyrestrtr> !info germinate-update-metapackage
[02:09] <ubotu> Package germinate-update-metapackage does not exist in any distro I know
[02:09] <elkbuntu> guys, random chatter (non support stuff) belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:09] <fyrestrtr> !info germinate-update
[02:09] <ubotu> Package germinate-update does not exist in any distro I know
[02:09] <Braetak> Hammond of texas: Millions of people will die!
[02:09] <zaggynl> Anyone has an idea what this wish thing is? It shows in Firestarter: Anyone has
[02:09] <zaggynl> http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3492/screenshotfirestarteramd3200lae8.png
[02:09] <Braetak> is linuxhardware.org down!?
[02:10] <_mason>  /love stargate
[02:10] <dr_d> hey guys i've got a huge problem
[02:10] <dr_d> i decided to remove ubuntu until the next version comes out
[02:10] <_mason> JackONeill: Well, Birds of a Feather!
[02:10] <JackONeill> dr_d, try windows :P
[02:10] <_mason> it has to do with .. flocking
[02:11] <dr_d> yeah... i used gparted from live cd to remove my linux partition
[02:11] <dr_d> but now i cant boot because grub is still installed to my master boot record
[02:11] <dr_d> help!!
[02:11] <zaggynl> >
[02:11] <zaggynl> ?
[02:11] <zaggynl> I think Windows XP can change the MBR
[02:11] <JackONeill> _mason, what's the punch line? no fish?
[02:11] <brian__> dr_d fdisk /mbr
[02:11] <zaggynl> or that :P
[02:11] <myatthu> dr_d, you got to boot from windows .. go to rescue mode ... then type fixmbr
[02:11] <JackONeill> fdisk /mbr is your friend
[02:11] <jUggERNAUt1980> whatsahappenin?
[02:12] <dr_d> ok i'm in livecd now i'll give it a try
[02:12] <_mason> JackONeill: Zombies have been done to death!
[02:12] <dr_d> btw just to clarify, i already have winxp installed... just not mbr
[02:12] <jUggERNAUt1980> can anybody give me some help?
[02:12] <_mason> Askaway
[02:12] <JackONeill> _mason, just because those are only being shown in the states doesn't stop me :P
[02:12] <wikijeff> Any way to run a .msi file with wine?
[02:12] <JackONeill> They allegedly performed well on DVD
[02:13] <jUggERNAUt1980> i picked up a toshiba satellite lappy and ubuntu freezes on the install.
[02:13] <jUggERNAUt1980> any suggestions?
[02:13] <dr_d> JackONeill: it says "unable to open /mbr"
[02:13] <_mason> JackONeill: Oop, Youve got me.. I have no idea where thats from!
[02:13] <JackONeill> JackONeill.... "fdisk /mbr" is a DOS command
[02:13] <myatthu> LOL
[02:13] <JackONeill> _mason, same episode
[02:13] <dr_d> oh lol
[02:13] <BlackTiger> please help me getting wlan, tried everything nothing works... see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=262060
[02:13] <jUggERNAUt1980> i ran dmesg to check for errors, and there are no errors.
[02:13] <_mason> yeah
[02:13] <myatthu> dr_d, you got to boot from windows .. go to rescue mode ... then type fixmbr <--- try this ..
[02:14] <jUggERNAUt1980> any advice on what i can do here?
[02:14] <JackONeill> DOS is your friend
[02:14] <JackONeill> 7.10 + PQMagic is bliss
[02:14] <dr_d> ok rescue mode fixmbr... ok will try this thanks guys
[02:15] <JackONeill> so... is linuxhardware.org down?
[02:15] <_mason> JackONeill: So think the farlings will end up helping defeat the ori?  & OMG Fireflys Anara is playing the Orasi! Couldnt have asked for a better cast!
[02:15] <CromagDK> can i make a dvd from a .img file in Gnome Baker ?
[02:16] <JackONeill> _mason, don't watch firefly.... I don't want to see the furlings, gotta leave some things for another spin off... also we need to bring back the Aschen
[02:16] <NET||abuse> nads, i have no idea if anyone said anything to it,,, how do i get support for quicktime, h.264 mov files? xine or mplayer or totem-xine or anything?
[02:16] <NET||abuse> or is there a codec pack i can download?
[02:16] <JackONeill> _mason, SG-1 should concentrate on the mild annoyances of the Trust/Lucian Alliance and just 'majoritively' kill off the Ori... then end SG-1
[02:16] <_mason> JackONeill: stargate command still isnt even sure of their coninued existance
[02:17] <_mason> 'continued
[02:17] <JackONeill> exactly... think 'Stargate Earth'..... unified international SG-C
[02:17] <JackONeill> More diplomacy and intergalactic babylon 5 and ds9 style series
[02:18] <_mason> Ahh, See i never watched Babylon 5 & etc
[02:18] <stefg> !offtopic
[02:18] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:18] <mabus> So, anybody know how I can use elinks with xterm-256color so it's in color, but not screw up everything else?
[02:18] <_mason> Ah, Alas
[02:18] <_mason> JackONeill join off-topic ?
[02:18] <JackONeill> I pm'ed you
[02:18] <_mason> Ahh yes :P
[02:19] <koreano> ciao ragazzi
[02:19] <melon> perhaps an extremely stupid Q.. but all the same.. any idea where my mozilla folder might be?
[02:19] <JackONeill> Were gone now... happy?
[02:19] <Noxville> hello all...
[02:19] <Cyberai> Hey all, I just got a new monitor, an Acer 19" widescreen model that does 1440x900 rez. But when I try to use that resolution I get dark, wierd color. My video card is a radeon 9200. I just checked ATI's page on it and 1440x900 isn't a supported resolution. Is there anything I can do in tuning my xorg.conf to fix this or updating a driver? Or do I need to bite the bullet and buy a new video card?
[02:20] <Noxville> have you got the ati drivers
[02:20] <Noxville> ??
[02:20] <myatthu> melon, there is one in  ~/.mozilla
[02:20] <Cyberai> yeah, i do
[02:20] <melon> lol - thanks
[02:20] <Davo_Dinkum> Cyberai: Did you power cycle your PC?
[02:21] <ponsfrilus> hi all... some1 can tell me how to have a channel list?
[02:21] <Noxville> can any1 tell me how to bridge 2 network cards together... i need to make a firewall
[02:21] <Cyberai> Davo_Dinkum, yes
[02:21] <stefg> Cyberai: i have the exact same display working nicely with a nvidia fx 5200... it requires a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to get the 1440x900 as default res, i experienced some strange flickering when changing resolutions on the fly
[02:21] <myatthu> Noxville, the command is /list
[02:22] <Cyberai> ah, wonder if that will work with my ati.....
[02:22] <myatthu> but it seems the load is too heavy ... i can't see it
[02:22] <Davo_Dinkum> Cyberai: OK, just checking if you restarted X.
[02:22] <Noxville> i don't need a chan-list myatthu
[02:22] <NET||abuse> koreano, we're not girls..
[02:22] <Noxville> can any1 tell me how to bridge 2 network cards together... i need to make a firewall
[02:22] <Noxville> can any1 tell me how to bridge 2 network cards together... i need to make a firewall
[02:22] <myatthu> eh ah ...
[02:22] <koreano> we we
[02:23] <koreano> sono un uomo
[02:23] <myatthu> !kr
[02:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:23] <myatthu> sweet
[02:23] <myatthu> oh that question was asked by ponsfrilus ...
[02:24] <ponsfrilus> yes thanks
[02:24] <myatthu> lol
[02:24] <myatthu> my apologies to Noxville
[02:24] <M_Fatih> i want to downgrade to firefox 1.5.* i don't want to firefox 2.0beta, because it crashing in flash pages..
[02:24] <koreano> grazie
[02:24] <ponsfrilus> flash player 8 is NOT for linux :-( wait for 9
[02:25] <gnomefreak> M_Fatih: firefox 2.0 isnt in dapper
[02:25] <M_Fatih> gnomefreak, im in edgy
[02:25] <myatthu> i wonder how you get 2.0 beta
[02:25] <lostinc> anyone know of an alternative calendar to evolution?
[02:25] <M_Fatih> sorry i'm going ubuntu+1
[02:25] <gnomefreak> M_Fatih: your in the wrong channel than
[02:25] <gnomefreak> :)
[02:25] <koreano> flash player for x86
[02:25] <M_Fatih> :)
[02:25] <Noxville> myatthu, can u help me.. i need to bridge 2 network cards and run them thorugh iptables to filter... how do i do it..
[02:25] <gnomefreak> lostinc: thunderbird 1.5* has a calendar plugin iirc
[02:25] <myatthu> no idea dude ... i am networking noob ...
[02:26] <myatthu> :<
[02:26] <stefg> Noxville: you might find a look at firestarter useful
[02:26] <stefg> !info firestarter
[02:26] <Noxville> ANY1 who is not a networking n00b???
[02:26] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 381 kB, installed size 1900 kB
[02:26] <Noxville> i need to set up a firewall, not manage one
[02:27] <stefg> Noxville: don't argue, just look & learn :-)
[02:27] <secleinteer> hi, the update for the flash plugin caused an error in it
[02:27] <melon> hmm.. i don't have permissions because i'm not root
[02:27] <secleinteer> does anyone know how i can switch back to the old version?
[02:27] <mixelogj> has anyone compiled 2.6.16.28 on a sata hdd? Specifically on a thinkpad t43
[02:27] <Noxville> !google firestarter
[02:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google firestarter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:27] <secleinteer> !flashplugin
[02:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashplugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:28] <gandalfcome> i see your talking aboput the update of the flash plugin: my synaptic wont install it. aptitude is also not coping with the flash plugin. anyone got a solution. thanks in advance
[02:28] <Noxville> !info linux defender
[02:28] <ubotu> linux: Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.25 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[02:28] <mixelogj> mkinitrd returns that module sd_mod and sg which are needed for sata are not found. any ideas?
[02:29] <stefg> !info initramfs
[02:29] <ubotu> Package initramfs does not exist in any distro I know
[02:30] <stefg> mixelogj: ubuntu uses initramfs-tools, not mkinitrd... (tho it might be symlinked)
[02:30] <mixelogj> do you have the syntax of the command to generate initrd then? the howto only had mkinitrd
[02:31] <melon> flash fixed!
[02:31] <melon> score.. thanks people :|
[02:31] <stefg> man initramfs-tools :-)
[02:31] <secleinteer> how did you fix flash?
[02:32] <mixelogj> thought so :)
[02:32] <melon> hold up - grabbing the link now
[02:33] <melon> the install package links to: http://macromedia.mplug.org/
[02:33] <melon> i downloaded the latest - 'n followed the basic instructions in the readme
[02:33] <melon> 'n here i was thinking it was going to be a challenge
[02:34] <melon> "run installer in terminal"
[02:37] <jUggERNAUt1980> anybody here have any experience installing ubuntu on a toshiba sattelite?
[02:37] <lostinc> how do you check a md5 checksum on here?
[02:38] <ponsfrilus> woot?
[02:39] <jrib> lostinc: md5sum file
[02:39] <lostinc> yes
[02:39] <minimec> Hi folks. Can anyone tell me, why the realplay 10 Software is not in the PLF dapper repository, but only in the breezy repository?
[02:39] <jrib> lostinc: right, that's the command.  Just run it in a terminal
[02:39] <tempest> I'm trying to sort out grub (using livecd) so I can boot into my Ubuntu install. when I type 'root (sd0,5)' it tells me 'error while parsing number'. Can anyone help?
[02:39] <capashen> bonjour a tous, petite question, la nouvelle testing integre-t-elle XGL ?
[02:39] <jrib> !fr
[02:39] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:39] <capashen> sorry bad chanel
[02:40] <minimec> capashen: Hmm.. je ne sais pas, mais si tu rajoute les bonnes sources oui ;)
[02:41] <mike-e> i have a zip file with multiple pieces of archive in it, how can i decompress it
[02:42] <jrib> mike-e: I'm not sure but I think you just unzip the first one.  This works for rar on the command line anyway
[02:42] <ubunter> hi. i have a problem. i mounted windows partition to mnt/win but i can`t enter because of "acced denied"
[02:42] <mike-e> yeah i tried it..
[02:43] <stefg> !mount
[02:43] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[02:43] <minimec> mike-e: sudo apt-get install zip unzip ; then open your favorite 'zip'-software (ark, file-roller)
[02:43] <myatthu> ubunter, did you mount it as root ?
[02:44] <ubunter> myatthu - no. just tell me how to log as root, i don`t see it anywhere
[02:44] <ubunter> when i type root and my pass it doesn`t work
[02:44] <tempest> does grub recognise sda6 as a hdx5?
[02:44] <myatthu> you type root ?
[02:44] <ubunter> in login screen
[02:44] <myatthu> log as root ? you mean log in as root ?
[02:44] <jrib> mike-e: man unzip, see the BUGS section.  There is a note there that might help
[02:44] <myatthu> oh no .. ubuntu has no root user ...
[02:44] <myatthu> there is but disabled
[02:45] <myatthu> you can't log in as root user ... but you can always sudo
[02:45] <stefg> ubunter: if it's ntfs, it's readonly by default, in case of fat32 you need the right mount-options in /etc/fstab... and forget about root, ubuntu does not work this way... see !root
[02:45] <ubunter> i used: mkdir /mnt/win
[02:45] <peija-kas> u can also enable root login
[02:45] <mike-e> lame
[02:45] <stefg> ubunter: the proper place would be /media/windows
[02:46] <peija-kas> "sudo passwd" sets root user passwros, after which it is in use, right?
[02:46] <stefg> !root
[02:46] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:46] <tempest> I'm trying to sort out grub (using livecd) so I can boot into my Ubuntu install. when I type 'root (sd0,5)' it tells me 'error while parsing number'. does grub not like the 's'? ideas?
[02:47] <stefg> !grub
[02:47] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:47] <myatthu> tempest, if i am not wrong grub has its own way of naming the drives ...
[02:47] <lxuser1> just an quick question ;) i'm about to install ubuntu trhough knoppix and was about to start with the debootstrap, but i don't know what debootstrap to take :( there are 2 options i'm thinking about ubuntu3dapper and ubuntu4
[02:47] <Noxville> !freak
[02:47] <tempest> it does
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <Noxville> !gedit
[02:47] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[02:48] <mlunzena> Hi!
[02:48] <ubunter> can i type: sudo mkdir /media/windows then
[02:48] <ubunter> mount -t ntfs /dev/sda5 /media/windows ? (sda5 is partition i`m interested in)
[02:48] <mlunzena> I have got a problem concerning UTF-8 and ISO-8859-1
[02:49] <stefg> ubunter: that looks reasonable, but be aware: No way to safely write to ntfs in linux yet!
[02:49] <stefg> !fuse
[02:49] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:49] <mlunzena> I have an ISO-8859-1 encoded file which contains some -characters
[02:49] <Cyberai> ubunter, that should work, I don't see why not, as long as the NTFS kernel module is loaded
[02:49] <mlunzena> if I grep for them in my console, I do not get them...
[02:49] <mlunzena> What can I do?
[02:49] <Cyberai> Ubugtu, but yeah, writing is still beta
[02:50] <ubunter> stefg - but copying from ntfs to linux is durex?
[02:50] <Cyberai> mlunzena, can you paste the exact command your issuing? I bet your not escaping properly
[02:50] <tempest> does anyone know how grub would name a hard disk partition called sda6
[02:50] <mlunzena> I typed "grep '' filename.txt"
[02:50] <stefg> ubunter: yes reading ntfs works (and isn't dangerous, obviously)
[02:50] <tempest> (sd0,5) doesn't work unless I'm doing something else wrong
[02:51] <Cyberai> mlunzena, try "grep '\' filename.txt"
[02:51] <codecaine> is there a program for linux like swish?
[02:51] <lxuser1> noone able to help me with my debootstrap problem?
[02:51] <codecaine> flash
[02:51] <kryptoz> Hi
[02:51] <mlunzena> Cybera, that does not work.
[02:51] <peija-kas> http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710  here is also a howto for NTFS read/write using the new ntfs 3g driver
[02:51] <stefg> tempest: you are aware that grub starts counting at 0 (zero) ? sda5 is sd4 in grub-speak
[02:51] <ubunter> stefg - permission denied :/
[02:52] <mlunzena> The  that I type is an UTF-8 encoded character of 3 bytes or so..
[02:52] <mlunzena> but in the file this char is only one byte long.
[02:52] <tempest> yep stefg
[02:53] <ORI0N-1> i'm trying to mount my old windows xp partition (fat32), and it gives me the following error...
[02:53] <ORI0N-1> error: device /dev/hdb1 is not removable
[02:53] <ORI0N-1> error: could not execute pmount
[02:53] <ORI0N-1> why is that?
[02:53] <CromagDK> ORI0N-1: how do you mount it ?
[02:53] <CromagDK> via file manager ?
[02:53] <ORI0N-1> in computer
[02:53] <tempest> stefg, I have a feeling it might rename sda6 to something like (hdx,y) (note the h). any idea if thats correct?
[02:53] <Cyberai> mlunzena, what program created this file?
[02:53] <ORI0N-1> it shows, but it won't mount
[02:53] <stefg> ubunter: use mount /dev/hd(foo,bar) -o nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 /media/windows
[02:54] <mlunzena> I got it from a subversion repository, so it has to remain in ISO-8859-1 encoding - unfortunately...
[02:54] <CromagDK> !ntfs > ORI0N-1
[02:54] <ORI0N-1> thanks
[02:54] <CromagDK> np
[02:55] <stefg> tempest: no idea, you could paste sudo fdisk -l to pastebin and let me have a look
[02:55] <Cyberai> mlunzena, sorry, im not sure how to deal with that
[02:55] <tempest> stefg, I can't get on the net in the wireless livecd :/ ubuntu freezes whenever I set it up
[02:55] <tempest> so I'm on windows atm
[02:56] <ben> hey can anyone help me with installing and playing world of warcraft on ubuntu (latest version, amd64 version)
[02:56] <ORI0N-1> what's windows atm?
[02:56] <mlunzena> Cyberai, thanks anyway
[02:56] <tempest> er. if that was confusing i meant it freezes if I set up the wireless network
[02:56] <Arcainus> ben, try and use cedega :)
[02:56] <theCore> mlunzena, are you on Dapper
[02:56] <ben> tried that
[02:56] <Arcainus> i got it working before
[02:56] <ubunter> stefg: how to dismnout that previous first?
[02:56] <theCore> mlunzena, I got a quick & dirty fix if so
[02:56] <ubunter> dismount doesn`t work
[02:56] <Arcainus> ben, it not working?
[02:56] <mlunzena> theCore, nope on edgy, but on dapper, it was the same
[02:57] <stefg> ubunter: sudo umount /media/windows
[02:57] <PuGz> hey guys. i am using ubuntu edgy. I have 5 .avi movie files. I want to make a video dvd. Any good programs to do this?
[02:57] <ben> its that i cant install the vid card drivers ... or at least dont think i can and heard that wine is better for wow
[02:57] <theCore> mlunzena, if you were on Dapper, you could have used Shift-Ctrl A7 to enter the character
[02:58] <adsuck> Hello everyone, I am having a little trouble finding a package indicated in a howto for having an Ubuntu desktop function as a client for an AD server (w2k3)
[02:58] <stefg> !repos
[02:58] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:58] <ubunter> stefg: works. someday i will be just like you
[02:58] <mlunzena> theCore, on edgy it's SHIFT+CTRL+u
[02:58] <Cyberai> adsuck, what package?
[02:58] <adsuck> The package in question is krb5-config and the clin for it is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91510
[02:59] <theCore> mlunzena, oh, thanks for that one
[02:59] <adsuck> clin == link*
[02:59] <JackONeill> function? function?   FUNCTION!?
[02:59] <theCore> mlunzena, 
[02:59] <stefg> !info krb5-config
[02:59] <mlunzena> heh
[02:59] <ubotu> krb5-config: Configuration files for Kerberos Version 5. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 68 kB
[02:59] <stefg> adsuck: so you'll need universe enabled
[02:59] <adsuck> JackONeill: function as in identify, be able to share and such.
[02:59] <Cyberai> ok adsuck, why don't you just download it and install it with dpkg?
[02:59] <adsuck> I'd swear I have universe AND multiverse enabled :~/
[03:00] <stefg> adsuck: and apt-get update after that :-) ?
[03:00] <theCore> mlunzena, 
[03:00] <PuGz> any programs to convert video files to a dvd iso?
[03:00] <ubunter> and more question - how to associate mp3s etc. to VLC?
[03:00] <adsuck> ofc
[03:00] <ORI0N-1> !fuse
[03:00] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:00] <amee2k> hi all
[03:01] <gonniff> hi!
[03:01] <theCore> mlunzena, I just of a very dirty way to make it work
[03:01] <gonniff> can someone tell me how to accept ssh connections in ubuntu?
[03:01] <theCore> I thought*
[03:01] <stefg> ubunter: just like in 'that other OS'... right click -> properties -> open with :-)
[03:01] <amee2k> which package contains the man pages for freeglut?
[03:01] <mlunzena> theCore, by typing the right ISO-8859-1 encoding?
[03:01] <adsuck> Alright, I am being just silly... I could've sworn I had universe. Anyhow thanks all.
[03:02] <amee2k> (hint: its not freeglut3-dev)
[03:02] <ORI0N-1> what windows games are compatible with ubuntu?
[03:02] <theCore> mlunzena, grep "$(echo  | iconv -f utf-8 -t iso8859-1)" yourfile.txt
[03:02] <mlunzena> theCore, that would work :-)
[03:03] <myatthu> ORI0N-1, none .... unless you use wine ..then some ...
[03:03] <stefg> !games
[03:03] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[03:04] <ORI0N-1> are there any decent games at least?
[03:04] <ORI0N-1> !games
[03:04] <Noxville> !ubuntu games
[03:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu games - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <myatthu> actually i like puzle bubble ... and mario brothers clone ....
[03:04] <Noxville> !games
[03:04] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[03:04] <botxj> !pornography
[03:04] <Noxville> dddddddd
[03:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pornography - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <Noxville> !sex
[03:04] <stefg> !botabuse
[03:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[03:04] <myatthu> ...
[03:05] <botxj> lol
[03:05] <Schamane> /exit
[03:05] <botxj> dont want to angry the ops
[03:06] <ajmitch> botxj: too late.
[03:06] <jUggERNAUt1980> anybody here have any experience installing ubuntu on a toshiba sattelite?
[03:06] <botxj> uh oh o.O
[03:06] <botxj> O_O
[03:07] <stefg> jUggERNAUt1980: should be a piece of cake
[03:07] <peija-kas> http://www.linux-laptop.net/  linux on laptops compatibility
[03:07] <myatthu> jUggERNAUt1980, i did .... damn old satellite ... p3 ... yes it was fine :P
[03:07] <jUggERNAUt1980> dmesg said only two very minor errors, but it freezes on step two(location)
[03:08] <Noxville> jesus christ, ubuntu take forever to install
[03:08] <botxj> the ONLY laptop i ever want now is a Sony UX vaio
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !language
[03:08] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:08] <stefg> jUggERNAUt1980: what do you mean b 'step 2'?
[03:08] <jUggERNAUt1980> i thought that maybe i would have to set the vid ram from 64 to 32, but there's no place in the bios to change the setting.
[03:08] <botxj> !christian
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about christian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <jUggERNAUt1980> when i load the livecd then run install, it goes through 6 steps
[03:09] <jUggERNAUt1980> step 1 is language
[03:09] <jUggERNAUt1980> step 2 is location
[03:09] <Noxville> f#ck
[03:09] <Noxville> !kaffir
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kaffir - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Noxville: Dosent take that long on decent hardware, and the install cd only needs to be run once... There is a lot of compression of the programs to fit as much as possible onto the cd.
[03:09] <stefg> jUggERNAUt1980: You have 256 MB in that box, haven't you?
[03:09] <Noxville> no
[03:09] <jUggERNAUt1980> yessa!
[03:10] <jUggERNAUt1980> i'm pretty sure the vidram is shared
[03:10] <stefg> jUggERNAUt1980: what graphic chip is it? i810?
[03:10] <Noxville> hey, can you help me bridge 2 network cards so that i can make an ubuntu firewall
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> jUggERNAUt1980: Did you have the cd do its self test for errors, sorry if I came into the conversation late...
[03:10] <jUggERNAUt1980> hmmm....i'm not sure what the chipset is, but it's the ati m200 vid adapter.
[03:11] <jUggERNAUt1980> did the cd self test, no errors.
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> k thanks
[03:11] <jUggERNAUt1980> did a memtest and that came up clean, too.
[03:11] <Noxville> ye
[03:11] <stefg> jUggERNAUt1980: hmmm.... that should do it with the stock ati-driver
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> jUggERNAUt1980: Any usb devices plugged in?
[03:11] <jUggERNAUt1980> nothin plugged in.
[03:11] <jUggERNAUt1980> should i turn the wifi off?
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> jUggERNAUt1980: Cant hurt to try that
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> jUggERNAUt1980: Just waking up here, I may have better answers after my first cup of coffee
[03:12] <jUggERNAUt1980> i'm thinkin there may be an issue with the cdrom, but i can't really see how that would affect the install at this point, especially since it loaded.
[03:13] <stefg> jUggERNAUt1980: to get you right: the Live-CD won't  start X, right?
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> jUggERNAUt1980: I have seen one other instance of the install failing on step two trying to zoom into the map and select the location
[03:14] <jUggERNAUt1980> stefg:  the livecd loads and i works as far as i can tell, but freezes on step 2 when i run install.
[03:14] <jUggERNAUt1980> jack_sparrow:  do you know the solution from that other instance?
[03:14] <Born_In_Xixax-> have plenty of ram?
[03:14] <jUggERNAUt1980> is there perhaps a text only install?
[03:15] <koudelka> anyone here that has used easyubuntu?
[03:15] <jUggERNAUt1980> where can i get the alternate-install-cd?
[03:15] <Born_In_Xixax-> yes, use the alternate cd
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> jUggERNAUt1980: Not at the moment, but I thought it had something to do with a usb but it may have been his wirelss like you mentioned
[03:15] <Born_In_Xixax-> same place as the livecd probably
[03:15] <SillyZ> gmornin
[03:15] <ikonia> how often is the ubuntu nvidia componentns updated
[03:15] <Born_In_Xixax-> i had the livecd hang at various points on a machine with 128MB ram
[03:15] <jUggERNAUt1980> ubuntu.com then?
[03:15] <Born_In_Xixax-> test install worked fine
[03:15] <Born_In_Xixax-> *text
[03:16] <stefg> jUggERNAUt1980: yup, that's called 'alternate'... and seriously: give xubuntu a try. I have an oldish Compaq Armada M700, and xubuntu is just perfect for it
[03:16] <Born_In_Xixax-> is this a low ram machine?
[03:16] <jUggERNAUt1980> advertised 256mb ram, but it registers 190 due to shared video ram
[03:16] <Born_In_Xixax-> mm
[03:16] <stefg> xubuntu! xubuntu! :-)
[03:16] <lupine_85> you need 192 for the live CD ;)
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> xubuntu
[03:17] <jUggERNAUt1980> ah!  damnit!
[03:17] <jUggERNAUt1980> that's probably the whole issue then!
[03:17] <Born_In_Xixax-> i installed gnome ubuntu on 128mb ram machine, using text install
[03:17] <Born_In_Xixax-> works just fine, though i removed some gnome desktop and startup stuff to help
[03:17] <jUggERNAUt1980> do i have to burn a different cd with the text install, or can i do that with my livecd?
[03:17] <Born_In_Xixax-> trashcan, autoupdate, etc
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> jUggERNAUt1980: Can you reduce shared video ram
[03:18] <Born_In_Xixax-> that's a good idea
[03:18] <Born_In_Xixax-> might get you over the hump of the livecd just for installing
[03:18] <jUggERNAUt1980> i looked in the bios, but there isn't any option for specifying the amount of video ram like there is on my compaq lappy.
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> jUggERNAUt1980: That isnt going to give you high end video anyhow
[03:18] <Noxville> can any1 help me bridge 2 network cards through iptables
[03:18] <Noxville> can any1 help me bridge 2 network cards through iptables
[03:18] <Noxville> can any1 help me bridge 2 network cards through iptables
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !repeat
[03:19] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:19] <jUggERNAUt1980> the ati m200, you mean
[03:19] <stefg> toshibas don't have a bios setup... they require a _win_ -app to configure the bios-settings :-(
[03:19] <silent_scream> how can i open .exe files with wine by double clicking the file? when i double click the file it doesn't open! I have configured wine
[03:20] <jUggERNAUt1980> damnit!  that's poopy.  o.O  it's a phoenix bios
[03:20] <Noxville> clear
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Noxville: You come into the channel, you swear, you play with the bot and you repeat.... then you wonder why no one wants to help you
[03:20] <jUggERNAUt1980> it's still reading the cd.  been like 15 min since i selected english, the screen hasn't changed.
[03:20] <Born_In_Xixax-> alternate cd text install is what i always download now anyway, since i have no real need for a live cd
[03:20] <jUggERNAUt1980> you have an address?
[03:20] <Born_In_Xixax-> and xubuntu will probably be better overall on low ram machine
[03:21] <jUggERNAUt1980> where i can download it, i mean
[03:21] <Born_In_Xixax-> ya juggernaut, it's the low ram
[03:21] <Born_In_Xixax-> did the same exact thing for me
[03:21] <stefg> jUggERNAUt1980: broken CD or broken (dirty) CD-Drive?
[03:21] <Born_In_Xixax-> it'll read for hours
[03:21] <Noxville> FFS- i swear, i play with the bot and 1 repeat because for over an hour ive been asking for some help that should be easy for you ppl
[03:21] <Born_In_Xixax-> it never did finish
[03:21] <jUggERNAUt1980> crap!  :D  that's exactly what it's doing!!
[03:21] <botxj> i'd like to associate the OS, Xubuntu with the rapper, Xibit
[03:21] <Cyberai> silent_scream, right click on the file and choose properties. in command, put a "wine" in front of the command
[03:21] <jUggERNAUt1980> oh!  it changed to the other!
[03:21] <jUggERNAUt1980> now it's opening the where are you screen
[03:22] <stefg> Noxville: you will keep asking until you finally decide to do waht i said... Get firestarter, or die ignoring good advice :-)
[03:22] <jUggERNAUt1980> i doubt it'll work.  :(  need more ram.
[03:22] <Born_In_Xixax-> it will seriously probably be faster to download the alternate cd and burn it at this point, but good luck :)
[03:22] <jUggERNAUt1980> i figured it was a ram problem,
[03:22] <[-Haza-Lappy2-] > just a quick question. how do i go about installing ubuntu with the ide dma disabled?
[03:22] <jUggERNAUt1980> thanks xixax!!!
[03:22] <jUggERNAUt1980> thanks everybody!!
[03:23] <Noxville> !firestarter
[03:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[03:23] <stefg> Ahhhh...
[03:23] <Noxville> but can firestarter bridge connections is what im asking stefg
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !shorewall
[03:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[03:24] <stefg> yes, i said that before
[03:24] <botxj> are the firewall thingies part of the standard linux apps, or are they programs the individual distro people create their own versions of?
[03:24] <jUggERNAUt1980> i had switched my shared vid ram on my compaq from 32 to 64 before and had a similar issue when installing ubuntu
[03:24] <stefg> !iptables
[03:24] <jUggERNAUt1980> but when i turned it back down to 32, the install went through beautifully.
[03:24] <Noxville> !iptables
[03:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[03:24] <jUggERNAUt1980> no option on the toshiba for that.
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Noxville: SOmething like this...   http://www.shorewall.net/two-interface.htm
[03:25] <jUggERNAUt1980> y'all know how the wifi is with the tosh satellite>
[03:25] <jUggERNAUt1980> ?
[03:25] <Noxville> why thank you... that wasn't hard.. your help is appreciated
[03:25] <botxj> that dont answer mah question people
[03:26] <JackONeill> ?
[03:26] <stefg> botxj: iptables is a kernel thing, so that's common to all linuxen... just the frontend to manage iptables might differ. Ubuntu has firestarter, Suse has yast e.g.
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Noxville: You are welcome
[03:27] <botxj> thank you stefg, exactly the answer i was looking for
[03:27] <ubunter> how to make shortcuts on the xfce desktop?
[03:27] <antiPosix> when I log into ubuntu, what file starts my Window Manager.  I have no .xsession or .xinitrc in my home dir, so I assume its in /etc somewhere
[03:28] <russ> how do i mount a second hard drive....???....
[03:28] <stefg> !xubuntu
[03:28] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org  To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[03:28] <KenSentMe> I'm trying to connect my laptop to a beamer. Is the function to shut down the laptop screen and use the external video port standard in use in Ubuntu?
[03:28] <antiPosix> a beamer?  youmean a car?
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> russ: what is the format on that second hard drive?
[03:28] <SillyZ> mount - t filesystemtype /dev/hdX ( X is a, b, c whatever)  1 , 2, 3 - partitin number  /mnt/somedir
[03:29] <SillyZ> hda would be the first drive on the primary chain, B would be the second drive on the primary chain
[03:29] <Noxville> whats [if there is one]  the root password default
[03:29] <antiPosix> Noxville: there is none
[03:29] <SillyZ> same goes for C and D  only they are on the secondary chain
[03:29] <stefg> there's no root-pw... use sudo -s if you need a root shell
[03:29] <M_A_K> I am unable to write fiels to or delete files from my ipod.  I checked the permissions, I am listed as owner and the folder I wish to delete from is owned by me and I can rwx .
[03:30] <KenSentMe> antiPosix: something like that, what do you call the device that shows video on a large screen?
[03:30] <antiPosix> Noxville: sudo passwd root
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Noxville: I would like to suggest you not do that and that you use sudo
[03:31] <pettern> is there a hardware recognizion script for ubuntu. something like kudzu
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Noxville: or gksudo for gnome gui apps or kdesu for kde gui apps
[03:31] <stefg> !info discover
[03:31] <ubotu> discover: hardware identification system. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.7-2.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 290 kB, installed size 720 kB
[03:31] <Noxville> thnks
[03:31] <daurnimator> oh, btw, how do you start an app from terminal, and have that terminal free again
[03:31] <daurnimator> (just start it, don't run it)
[03:31] <pettern> ty
[03:32] <stefg> daurnimator: ??? if you start a program it will run, no way to avoid that :-)
[03:32] <daurnimator> well - how can i start an app, and have the terminal free again
[03:32] <rambo3> add &
[03:32] <daurnimator> where?
[03:32] <manmadha> can any one give the links to download debian dvd .........
[03:32] <rambo3> firefox &
[03:32] <russ> i put a drive in that has windows on it as a slave....i don't need windows, i just need to be able to access the other files....it says it can't mount, drive is not removable....
[03:32] <Born_In_Xixax> if you add '&' to the end, it will background the task, and you can continue to use the terminal
[03:32] <daurnimator> (eg, gedit)
[03:33] <rambo3> gedit &
[03:33] <gpettit> Hi Flannel
[03:33] <daurnimator> so, gedit becomes gedit&?
[03:33] <daurnimator> oh, with space
[03:33] <daurnimator> thx
[03:33] <Born_In_Xixax> if you close the terminal, the app will die though
[03:33] <manmadha> can any one give the links to download debian dvd .........???
[03:33] <jUggERNAUt1980> could someone pass me a link to where i can download the alternative-install cd for ubuntu?
[03:33] <stefg> !download
[03:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> russ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions   reap the part about editing /etc/pmount.allow
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> read
[03:34] <gpettit> Is there a way to just have a system that runs a kernel and ubuntu-minimal?
[03:34] <stefg> jUggERNAUt1980: remember alternate! and xubuntu ! :-)
[03:34] <ubunter> do You know better firewall than Firestarter? i`m looking for something like zonealarm for microsoft os
[03:34] <cwc> hi all... im trying to improve my video performance (im getting 120fps in glxgears). how can i find out what video card is present in my laptop ?
[03:34] <jUggERNAUt1980> ah!  xubuntu?
[03:34] <KenSentMe> I'm trying to connect my laptop to a projector. Is the function to shut down the laptop screen and use the external video port standard in use in Ubuntu?
[03:34] <Born_In_Xixax> xfce window manager instead of gnome
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> ubunter: The firewall is built into the kernel... firestarter is just an iptable manager
[03:34] <manmadha> can any one give the links to download debian dvd .........???
[03:35] <Born_In_Xixax> much lighter on the resources
[03:35] <manmadha> !debian download
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about debian download - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <KenSentMe> manmadha: go to #debian channel
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> ubunter: Unless you specifically are trying to open up a port, you dont need to even think about it much.. FYI...  I prefer guarddog since it shows programs and things more like zonealarm.  It does not need to run each time, only when you make changes
[03:36] <gpettit> I tried the server installation, but it is still too large.  I want a small installation that boots quickly but still has the apt-get functionality.  Any suggestions
[03:37] <rambo3> ask ubotu about iptables
[03:37] <Lam_> !iptables
[03:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[03:37] <gpettit> I don't need any X stuff
[03:37] <ubunter> stefg: no? ZA is not a fwall? O_o
[03:37] <botxj> ubotu is gawd
[03:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is gawd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:37] <lupine_85> gpettit: how small?
[03:37] <jim80104> root
[03:38] <M_A_K> Anybody know why my ipod is now mounting as read only all of a sudden?
[03:38] <tuna> what was the command one could use to fing out what drivers ae being run at the time?
[03:38] <lupine_85> lsmod ?
[03:38] <tuna> thanks
[03:38] <gpettit> lupine_85: 50 to 60 MB would be nice; however size is less important than boot time
[03:38] <Ramunas> hello, is there some kind of program to deal with nokia's smartphones with ubuntu? Like sync contacts and stuff
[03:38] <jpjacobs> gpettit, try featherliux , or dsl or debbootstrap your own ubuntu
[03:38] <lupine_85> gpettit: not a chance in Ubuntu. debootstrap is 120MB
[03:38] <stefg> M_A_K: check dmesg for 'file system panic'-messages...
[03:38] <lupine_85> Look at http://www.aspisos.org/
[03:38] <jim80104> I have a need to log in as root for something that I need to do.... Can anyone tell me how to do so?
[03:38] <cwc> hi all... how can i find out what hardware video card is present in my laptop
[03:38] <lupine_85> I have a 16MB, fully-functional linux system using that
[03:39] <jpjacobs> gpetit, dsl is only 50M but it's one big hack
[03:39] <M_A_K> stefg : ok, thanks I will check
[03:39] <lupine_85> no apt-get, but that's not really an issue TBH
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !sudo
[03:39] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:39] <Noxville> i've got a ADSL modem on a network, how do i tell my ubuntu system to see and use the adsl service
[03:39] <rambo3> bussybox ?
[03:39] <ubunter> Jack_Sparrow is it safe to not to turn on the firestarter every time i`m going net?
[03:39] <stefg> !info pppoeconf
[03:39] <ubotu> pppoeconf: configures PPPoE/ADSL connections. In component main, is standard. Version 1.8ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 19 kB, installed size 308 kB
[03:39] <lupine_85> rambo3: yep :)
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntulog: yes it is safe
[03:40] <jim80104> I know all about sudo.... problem is, I need to actually be logged in as root, or this particular install will damage my profile.
[03:40] <lupine_85> it's all buildroot-based, though, so you've got plenty of choice of apps - including real bash, if you want
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntulog: What ports are you trying to open or close?
[03:40] <ubunter> my utorrent can`t connect his port (imo) becuase of the firestarter
[03:40] <pettern> got a new controller and disk today. its sil3112/3512 and should work fine with ubuntu. i tried with discover, and it seems to find it, but it is not visible in any of the partition managers...
[03:40] <lupine_85> jim80104: sounds like a crap program, but sudo passwd (give it a passowrD). Then su will work normally
[03:40] <pettern> any suggestions?
[03:41] <jbroome> jim80104: sudo -s to root, then passwd to set a root password.  you can login as root then
[03:41] <lupine_85> that's longwinded ;)
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntulog: try shields up here to test how open your machine is without using a manager..  http://www.grc.com/intro.htm
[03:41] <stefg> pettern: raid?
[03:41] <gfxstyler> hi
[03:41] <jim80104> It's actually the replacement for Firefox and Thunderbird from Mozilla... I am guessing it's not crap :-)
[03:41] <lupine_85> install it into your ~ ?
[03:41] <gfxstyler> i fooled a friend (who is a linux noob) and told him to do "rm -rf /*" on his vroot server
[03:42] <lupine_85> e.g. /home/jim/opt/mozilla
[03:42] <gfxstyler> is there a way to restore it without waiting 2 days for the service personell to do it?
[03:42] <gpettit> Thanks all for the suggestions, I will look into them
[03:42] <M_A_K> stefg : ok, i get TONS of lockd : failed to monitor 192.168.6.30  messages.  That is a server in our room (file server).
[03:42] <leo__> hola
[03:42] <lupine_85> you can do that without being root at all
[03:42] <Ramunas> gfxstyler: you hax0r :D
[03:42] <lupine_85> gfxstyler: not really ;)
[03:42] <gfxstyler> Ramunas, i hate him, thats why i did it
[03:42] <pettern> stefg: no
[03:43] <gfxstyler> okay then i wont bother anymore
[03:43] <lupine_85> if the system still works, ext2undelete might do it... but it's blank...
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> gfxstyler: Not cool
[03:43] <Noxville> stefg, only one computer connects to the internet, the others connect through it
[03:43] <stefg> M_A_K: but that has nothing to do with your ipod... i suspect that the filesystem on the iPod might be corrupt
[03:43] <Noxville> can pppoeconfig handle this
[03:43] <gfxstyler> nope, i guess he gotta wait a few days
[03:43] <Ramunas> gfxstyler: you should have made him create an ssh server, and sell it to somebody ;)
[03:44] <unfknblvbl> how do you install icons ?
[03:44] <Noxville> stefg, only one computer connects to the internet, the others connect through it
 can pppoeconfig handle this
[03:44] <lupine_85> Noxville: as long as the linux computer has 'net access, enable IP forwarding on it and you're (just about) done
[03:44] <M_A_K> It is used to move files back and forth from home to work.  I use windows at home, linux at work.  Can I repair the filesystem?
[03:44] <gfxstyler> i told him that rm removes stuff before, so i didnt really thought that he is actually *that* stupid
[03:44] <stefg> Noxville: that's the whole reason of existance for pppoeconf... read first, then _think_, then ask a question :-)
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> unfknblvbl: go to gnome-look.org  get an icon theme, drop the tar onto the open theme manager
[03:44] <pettern> stefg: btw. i have a 3112 controller already
[03:45] <unfknblvbl> oh ok ty Jack_Sparrow
[03:45] <stefg> pettern: so lspci sees the controller... have you modprobe'd the right kernel-module?
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> unfknblvbl: http://kearone.deviantart.com/gallery/?order=9
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> unfknblvbl: is my personal favorite icon set...
[03:45] <zaggynl> uaagh
[03:45] <ubunter> Jack_Sparrow will Gurddog work under xfce?
[03:45] <cwc> hi all... how can i find out what hardware video card is present in my laptop?
[03:46] <zaggynl> I can't start synaptic anymore
[03:46] <kling0n> getting loads of API errors when trying to use fgl_glxgears under dapper drake
[03:46] <kling0n> any suggestions?
[03:46] <surface> zaggynl:  why?
[03:46] <kling0n> xorg is loaded with fglrx diver
[03:46] <danfg> why is my ubuntu constantly resetting my DNS settings?
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> ubunter: I have only used gnome and kde  so I cant answer
[03:46] <james296> how can I completely remove an iten from the Applications menu? because I completely removed dvd::rip but the item for it is still in Applications
[03:46] <stefg> cwc: lspci
[03:46] <zaggynl> surface, I'll try via the CLI to get some data
[03:46] <lmarin> linux
[03:46] <pettern> stefg:0000:01:06.0 Mass storage controller: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3512 [SATALink/SATARaid]  Serial ATA Controller (rev 01)
[03:46] <surface> danfg:  u use dhcp, some router did tat
[03:46] <pettern> stefg: so yes
[03:47] <danfg> surface: my router was actually turned off
[03:47] <gfxstyler> james296, go to /usr/share/applications, and delete dvdrip.desktop  (look how the entry is called)
[03:47] <gfxstyler> james296, or use a menu editor
[03:47] <surface> zaggynl:  actually, apt-get and apt-cache is faster
[03:47] <zaggynl> surface, true
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> james296: gconf-editor  might do what you want.. dont know where in there though
[03:47] <stefg> pettern: so lsmod says there's something with 'sil...' loaded?
[03:47] <pettern> stefg, yes
[03:47] <surface> danfg:  u goes direct line?
[03:47] <gfxstyler> Jack_Sparrow, does gconf allow menu editing?
[03:48] <cwc> stefg, thanks :)   my video card is ati radeon agp 2x... and my xorg.conf also says the same thing... still in glxgears im getting only 120fps... can you please point me to some documentation on how to get this to work fine?
[03:48] <ubunter> the firewall choosness is very poor on linux i must say
[03:48] <vk> How can i start <SUDO PPPOECONF> In Edgy Eft?
[03:48] <james296> I cant delete it it wont allow me...
[03:48] <gfxstyler> !ati
[03:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:48] <danfg> surface: will this annoyance go away if i disable dhcp? it's a modem/router, this morning i forgot to turn it on, my settings were reset anyway
[03:48] <james296> the Move to Trash menu is disabled...
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> gfxstyler: I thought it would except the help ones
[03:48] <stefg> !ati
[03:48] <BlackTiger> can somebody help me with installing wlan (AM1772)???
[03:48] <jake1> good morning everyone
[03:48] <surface> danfg:  if possible make it static ip and define ur own dns.
[03:49] <BlackTiger> see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1526129 for more information
[03:49] <gfxstyler> james296, you have to do that as superuser, type: sudo rm /usr/share/applications/dvdrip.desktop
[03:49] <surface> danfg:  i face this problem when i online at my fren 's house.
[03:49] <spidfire> were must i start when i want to work with linux (ubuntu) ??
[03:49] <gfxstyler> james296, be careful with removing stuff as superuser, though
[03:49] <gfxstyler> lol
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> james296: is that an ntfs format?
[03:49] <danfg> surface: yes, i use a static ip. my dns settings keeps getting reset though every time i reboot
[03:50] <stefg> spidfire: get a Live-CD and boot that :-)
[03:50] <spidfire> :P
[03:50] <danfg> brb
[03:50] <james296> no its a desktop configuration file...
[03:50] <spidfire> im workin on ubuntu  now :P
[03:50] <surface> danfg:  by right, it shouldn't
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> james296: sorry.....
[03:50] <spidfire> but how can i learn to work with it
[03:50] <gfxstyler> james296, do you use gnome?
[03:50] <spidfire> ??
[03:50] <danfg> i agree
[03:50] <surface> spidfire:  learn what?
[03:50] <gfxstyler> spidfire, i'd advise learning-by-doing or browsing ubuntuforums.org
[03:50] <spidfire> to wrok it
[03:51] <spidfire> ok
[03:51] <spidfire> thx
[03:51] <pettern> stefg, no suggestions?
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[03:51] <olafura> Does anybody know if the boot support for xfs has been dropped on powerpc in edgy?
[03:51] <ubunter> who`s the boss
[03:51] <surface> danfg, ur resolve.conf is nameserver somehtin or search something
[03:51] <james296> yes
[03:51] <danfg> surface: let me check, brb
[03:51] <Jack_Sparrow> russ: Sorry dont even remember what we were working on..
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> spidfire: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper  might be a good resource for you
[03:52] <BlackTiger> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1526129 please help
[03:52] <jake1> bleh
[03:52] <danfg> surface: yes, on my /etc/resolv.conf, i have nameserver 192.168.0.1, which is my modem/router's ip
[03:52] <jake1> i hate not being able to run synaptic
[03:52] <stefg> pettern: sata on some nvidia-chipsets is buggy, that's all i know.. no idea, try google with 'SIL 3512 ubuntu'
[03:53] <unfknblvbl> Jack_Sparrow: his icons are too cartoony for me
[03:53] <unfknblvbl> i prefer professional ones
[03:53] <jake1> at the same time as apt-get or ffinstall
[03:53] <surface> danfg ur isp didn't provide any dns?
[03:53] <surface> danfg how it be reset to?
[03:53] <Paddy_EIRE> has anyone else here had trouble with the latest "flash-plugin-nonfree" update?
[03:53] <gfxstyler> unfknblvbl, try Tango
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> unfknblvbl: Thats why there are so many choices...
[03:53] <jake1> when other packagemanagment stuff is running
[03:53] <surface> danfg for me i put my isp defined dns, instead of router.
[03:53] <jake1> nonfree?
[03:53] <jake1> does that mean you have to pay?
[03:54] <unfknblvbl> gfxstyler: tango ?
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[03:54] <danfg> surface: it probably does, but i'm guessing the modem/router uses it, i use the modem/router as the DNS server, it works fine. when i reboot, ubuntu resets to no DNS server at all.
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: yes many have.. one sec... we can fix it
[03:54] <Paddy_EIRE> nice one
[03:54] <gfxstyler> jake1, its simple, you can just run apt once at the time, and synaptic uses it i guess
[03:54] <gfxstyler> unfknblvbl, it's a very nice icon theme
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/08/install-mozilla-flash-plugin-in-ubuntu.html
[03:55] <unfknblvbl> i'll look 4 it
[03:55] <surface> danfg weird
[03:55] <Paddy_EIRE> err?
[03:55] <jake1> gfxstyler: yes but i cnt run it with other pakage management
[03:55] <gfxstyler> unfknblvbl, it should be installed by default on dapper, if not, try to search tango in synaptics package manager
[03:55] <danfg> surface: indeed
[03:55] <gfxstyler> jake1, what do you mean? run it with rpm ?
[03:55] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: nice one mate
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:55] <jake1> like i cnt install something and then go to synaptic and try to install something else
[03:55] <plut> hi
[03:55] <plut> i need some help
[03:55] <plut> :/
[03:55] <gfxstyler> jake1, yes, this is not possible
[03:56] <jake1> such as using ffinstall/<file>.tar.gz
[03:56] <surface> danfg where did u set ur dns for now?
[03:56] <boink> plut: just ask
[03:56] <whazilla> how do i remove a package that i can't remove update or configure ? it won't cuz it can't be started or configured ?
[03:56] <plut> kk thansk
[03:56] <whazilla> pacvkage : cman
[03:56] <danfg> surface: 192.168.0.1
[03:56] <plut> i need to install a prism wifi driver
[03:56] <stefg> !wifi
[03:56] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:56] <danfg> surface: works fine right now
[03:56] <plut> <3
[03:56] <plut> thanks
[03:56] <unfknblvbl> oh ok thanks gfxstyler
[03:56] <jake1> and i wish it were, cuz now i have to wait for the other install to be done before i go look for package
[03:57] <tristan_> anyone knows where the Celstia folder is located?
[03:57] <tristan_> Celestia sorry
[03:57] <ubunter> Jack_Sparrow i don`t get it . i did in Firestarter GUI:  allow inboud service bittorrent 6881-6889 , and typed 6881 into utorrent and it says that i didn`t open da port. what`s wrong?
[03:57] <gfxstyler> Trinisan, you could do : locate Celestia    or: locate celestia
[03:57] <surface> danfg:  i mean where u set ur configuration? or u just simply edit /etc/resolve.conf?
[03:57] <stefg> ubunter: are you behind a hardware router?
[03:57] <ubunter> no
[03:58] <tristan_> thanks gfxstyler
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> ubunter: I dont use firestarter, but did you apply the settings and exit
[03:58] <zaggynl> What's a nice way to stop gdm and X?  '/etc/init.d/gdm stop' and CTRL+ALT+DEL ?
[03:58] <danfg> surface: System > Administration > Networking, I enter the root password, DNS tab, I add an entry to DNS Servers and press OK
[03:58] <jrib> zaggynl: ctrl-alt-backspace you mean?
[03:58] <cwc> !dri
[03:59] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[03:59] <jake1> if i interrupt something in  the terminal is there a way to let it continue where it left off
[03:59] <jake1> such as uncompressing a file
[03:59] <vk> How can i start <SUDO PPPOECONF> In Edgy Eft?
[03:59] <surface> danfg:  emmm. thats correct
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !edgy
[03:59] <ubunter> Jack_Sparrow - wow...
[03:59] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:59] <danfg> surface: any reason why ubuntu would remove dns servers from resolv.conf (i'm guessing that's where ubuntu writes down the DNS server addresses)? maybe that can help somehow
[03:59] <zaggynl> jrib, ehh oops yeah
[03:59] <gfxstyler> jake1, if your archiver supports to resume, but i dont think so
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> ubunter: Wow what?
[04:00] <ubunter> Jack_Sparrow - it works
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[04:00] <danfg> surface: i'm going to reboot and check if resolv.conf is changed/erased or something
[04:00] <NeilyBoy> playing games for windows is not practical on linux, is it?
[04:00] <wo_Ot> 'ACPI: Unable to locate RSDP' <- what is that mean?
[04:00] <stefg> !cedega
[04:00] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[04:00] <NeilyBoy> but cedega is not free
[04:00] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, depends on your graphics card
[04:00] <danfg> brb
[04:01] <stefg> NeilyBoy: the win games are not free either :-) (although some people tend to ignore that)
[04:01] <gfxstyler> lol
[04:01] <tristan_> by the way, anyone use Celestia here?
[04:02] <NeilyBoy> right. but i prefer not to feel like i need to drive a car in order to sit.
[04:02] <NeilyBoy> lol did that make any sense
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> NeilyBoy: Maybe this will get you started  http://liflg.org/?catid=6
[04:02] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, lol
[04:02] <wo_Ot> soneone?
[04:02] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, you dont code the games, do you :)
[04:03] <Temporo> Hummm, quick question, would you know why when i just installed firestarter enabled a rule to remotely view Ntop i can see the ntop interface but none of the ntop data. only just happened after installed firestarter.
[04:03] <NeilyBoy> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[04:03] <NeilyBoy> even though i can install UT2004 on linux, i would prefer to to run the windows version on linux if it gave 100% identical performance
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> NeilyBoy: also check out sauerbratten
[04:04] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, why would you want to do that
[04:04] <surface> Temporo:  the port ntop used been block, as easy as that.
[04:04] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, they are the same, and probably the native version has better performance
[04:04] <NeilyBoy> epic is slower at releasing patches for UT2004 linux version
[04:04] <NeilyBoy> and that puts a dampener on which servers i can play on
[04:04] <gfxstyler> you're right
[04:04] <Temporo> surface:i allowed ntop though.. or does it use a loopback?
[04:05] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, if you have an nvidia graphics card you could install ut2004 in wine and switch to the opengl interface in ut2004.ini
[04:05] <surface> Temporo:   ur ntop at other machine?
[04:05] <NeilyBoy> gfxstyler: interesting
[04:06] <NeilyBoy> now that i think about it, opengl is always slower than D3D
[04:06] <gfxstyler> i just head that opengl works better in cedega, compared to direct3d
[04:06] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, btw, on nvidia cards opengl is a hell of a lot faster than on ati graphics cards
[04:06] <Temporo> surface: Both on the same machine HTTPS set up for port 3001 which works, just can't see any of the data that was able to see before i installed firestarter and it didn't pick up on me viewing ntop HTTPS data either.
[04:06] <NeilyBoy> gfxstyler: really? wow. yeah, i have an ATI.
[04:07] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, same here :/
[04:07] <amorfo> hello, can someone please help me diagnose a hardware problem?
[04:07] <NeilyBoy> how much faster are we talking?
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Lots
[04:07] <wren> I have a stupid question: Would I have to switch to a less stable version of Ubuntu to get the package for the 2.6.17 kernel? Is that a bad thing? How could I do such a thing?
[04:07] <danfg> surface: i just rebooted. heh, my resolv.conf was cleaned up, no nameserver entries in it, then i had to do the System > Administration > etc. to fix the DNS stuff, again
[04:08] <zaggynl> This is weird, I have two Xchat icons in my tray, but only one responds
[04:08] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, well ati cards on linux are about 1/3 the speed of windows, and ati's opengl performance is also about 50% slower than nvidia (i compared a geforce4ti > ati radeon 9600)
[04:08] <stefg> wren: why would you want to do that?
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !glxgears
[04:08] <ubotu> To display the FPS in glxgears, run 'glxgears -printfps' in a terminal.
[04:08] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, maybe in games it is not that much %, i just tested some examples of mine and with blender
[04:08] <danfg> guys, who is cleaning up my resolv.conf settings ???
[04:08] <surface> danfg:  wait a sec, let me do a script for u to work around temporary
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> amorfo: Just ask, if someone knows they will answer
[04:08] <wren> stefg: It looks like 2.6.17 has improved support for my schmancy keyboard. Not a biggy, but it'd be nice if it worked better.
[04:09] <melon> without pointing me to the restricted formats link - does anybody have a quick fix for quality issues regarding mp3s?
[04:09] <gfxstyler> danfg, does restricting permissions on /etc/resolv.conf help ?
[04:09] <danfg> surface: what if i restrict write permissions to resolv.conf
[04:09] <NeilyBoy> gfxstyler: is opengl for nvidia faster than d3d while playing games in Windows?
[04:09] <danfg> gfxstyler: yes, great idea, i will try that
[04:09] <Raj> Grub Not recognising my second hard Disk OS.. Any help
[04:09] <surface> danfg:  fancy but can try
[04:10] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, i dont think it is that much of a difference
[04:10] <gfxstyler> but im no expert so better ask someone else :D
[04:10] <danfg> gfxstyler, surface: but really, why is ubuntu messing with my DNS settings in the first place. btw, i heard a beep when i was booting up, X was almost finished loading. i will check the boot log brb
[04:10] <ahfeel> hi all
[04:10] <ahfeel> i'm trying to build my own local repository but i have a problem
[04:11] <surface> danfg:  try search around /etc/networking something...
[04:11] <ahfeel> i've created Packages and Packages.gz files
[04:11] <russ> can anyone help set up dual monitors....that's the only thing i miss about windows xp....
[04:11] <ahfeel> but apt-get update wants Packages.bz2 file
[04:11] <ahfeel> how can i create it ?
[04:11] <stefg> wren: each ubuntu release comes with a given kernel-version, so dapper has and will alway have 2.6.15 (although it's closer to .16) The only way to put a newer kernel on that is to roll your own and package that up.  That's quite some work and requires experince
[04:11] <zaggynl> Hmm I need the truetype font for steam, and I've apt-get installed msttcorefonts, now what?
[04:11] <DtTvB> Umm, I am new to Ubuntu, can anyone please tell me where is directory of Kernel C header files?
[04:11] <gfxstyler> danfg, i just use /etc/networking/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf manually, because the network manager of gnome/ubuntu doesnt like my ethernet +wlan setting (always removes the gateway address? what the hell ?) ... i guess i have the same problem, except my configs dont get cleared/overwrittenn
[04:12] <amorfo> It all started when my hard drive started giving IDE errors. Ok so I thought, I have a bad drive, and indeed it had a few bad blocks. So I overwrote them, and problem solved. Or so I thought. Since then I get random lockups/freezes. First thing I thought: replace hard drive. I ordered another one, and meanwhile I used a live cd. The thing is, the system also freezes randomly in the live cd, with the hard disk disconnected. So i thought: memory. Ran memte
[04:12] <amorfo> st for 5 hours straight, no problem. I switched the PSU, problem persists. Now I'm using a different IDE channel (Promise one, I was using the VIA one before) and it appears stable. So I'd like to know: is it possible that I have a bad IDE controller, and could it fool the drive into thinking the drive is bad?
[04:12] <stefg> DtTvB: /usr/src/linux/include
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> ahfeel: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html#s-dpkg-scanpackages   might help
[04:12] <wren> sfefg: Would I have to actually make the package, or could I just build the kernel and install the image manually? Also, how would I go about stepping up from dapper? Is the next version usable enough for that to make sense?
[04:12] <gfxstyler> ahfeel, bzip2 yourarchive.tar.gz   i think
[04:12] <DtTvB> Thanks
[04:12] <vk> THANX FOR YOUR ASWERS!!! !!! !!! !! !!! (been ignored)
[04:12] <vk> THANX FOR YOUR ASWERS!!! !!! !!! !! !!! (been ignored)
[04:12] <vk> THANX FOR YOUR ASWERS!!! !!! !!! !! !!! (been ignored)
[04:12] <vk> THANX FOR YOUR ASWERS!!! !!! !!! !! !!! (been ignored)
[04:13] <LoRez> Warning: `vk' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[04:13] <vk> THANX FOR YOUR ASWERS!!! !!! !!! !! !!! (been ignored)
[04:13] <vk> THANX FOR YOUR ASWERS!!! !!! !!! !! !!! (been ignored)
[04:13] <ahfeel> thank you Jack_Sparrow and gfxstyler  :)
[04:13] <unfun> yuo're welcome
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> If he asked in the right channel he might have gotten an answer
[04:13] <stefg> !kernel
[04:13] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:14] <botxj> what there's no irc kicks in here, there's just passive kicking under the guise of a /part ?
[04:14] <botxj> man, this network is weird....
[04:14] <DtTvB> There was "/usr/src", but I don't see "/usr/src/linux".
[04:14] <zaggynl> botxj, indeed, now you say it
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> botxj: Ops dont show until we need them
[04:15] <stefg> wren: the point is that you've got to get the sources from kernel.org for , say, 2.6.17 and use kpkg to compile and package it
[04:15] <botxj> then what was that that "kicked" vk just now for spamming?
[04:15] <unfknblvbl> server ?
[04:15] <wren> sfefg: I've experience building my own kernel, so I could do that if I wanted. How much sense would it make, though, for me to switch to Edgy?
[04:16] <ubunter> how to create shortcuts in xfce?
[04:16] <NeilyBoy> Which do linux gurus more openly accept: AMD or Intel?
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> botxj: He was also asking edgy questions in Dapper and had been asked to go to the right channel a few times
[04:16] <danfg> gfxstyler, surface: i'll change write permissions in resolv.conf, which is sad, but oh well. guys, thanks a lot for helping me with this, i appreciate it
[04:16] <surface> danfg:  welcome, it works then?
[04:17] <stefg> wren: edgy has its rough edges still. I'd recommend waiting for the release, or enter the learning curve and build your custom 2.6.17 for dapper... there's quite an amount of howtos on the net how to do it right
[04:17] <danfg> surface: i will have to verify that on next reboot :)
[04:17] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, i use intel, but that was no intention really
[04:17] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, amd is not as expensive as intel
[04:17] <NeilyBoy> i knew that lol
[04:17] <wren> sfefg: Cool. Thanks for the input, that's exactly what I needed to know!
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Wife just woke up... TIme for me to have breakfast. Play nice....
[04:19] <gfxstyler> sparrow's gone, let's party :)
[04:19] <Neo8750> lol
[04:19] <danfg> let the flooding begin!
[04:19] <Neo8750> he still got him! =P
[04:19] <gfxstyler> wrong...button
[04:19] <danfg> he's actually just around the corner waiting for someone to misbehave
[04:19] <plut> another question, has anyone here tried using SMC wireless cards on breeezy?
[04:19] <rem__> Cannot initiate the connection to ch.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (2001:620:0:8:203:baff:fe52:38e6). - connect (101 Network is unreachable) [IP: 2001:620:0:8:203:baff:fe52:38e6 80] 
[04:19] <NeilyBoy> how come so many people use other linux OS's?  is there no real answer to why people choose one linux OS over another?
[04:19] <rem__> Cannot initiate the connection to ch.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (2001:620:0:8:203:baff:fe52:38e6). - connect (101 Network is unreachable) [IP: 2001:620:0:8:203:baff:fe52:38e6 80] 
[04:20] <rem__> why i the ip in ..is it ipv6 format ?
[04:20] <ubunter> hwo to make shortcuts in xubuntu?
[04:20] <rem__> anyone ?
[04:20] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, personal taste i'd think
[04:20] <Neo8750> NeilyBoy: it depends on what you are looking for and how hands on you want to be
[04:20] <botxj> NeilyBoy: it's called variety.... this is the exact same concept as why not everyone drives the same car
[04:20] <NeilyBoy> ubunter: select and drag, hold ALT and you should get a popup menu when you release the mouse button
[04:21] <DtTvB> Are there other places than /usr/src/linux/kernel?
[04:21] <omar> hello guys, I need a p2p sharing files. don't like frostwire
[04:21] <gfxstyler> i use gentoo as long as ubuntu edgy is not out ... xorg 7.1 and the opensource drivers are way faster for me than the fglrx ones in ubuntu dapper
[04:21] <omar> just recomend me one
[04:21] <rem__> omar -> aMule
[04:21] <omar> I will find it
[04:22] <stefg> DtTvB: what are you trying to do?
[04:22] <rem__> anyone ?
[04:22] <omar> trying to get some mp3
[04:22] <Neo8750> ?
[04:22] <krazykit> gfxstyler: what graphics card?
[04:22] <DtTvB> Install a VMWare tools, as I am using it as a virtual machine, to practice my linux skill.
[04:22] <NeilyBoy> so there is nothing significant about Ubuntu that makes it stand out against the other OS's?
[04:22] <gfxstyler> krazykit, ati radeon mobility 9600
[04:23] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, ubuntu is really easy but still not bloated and slow
[04:23] <krazykit> NeilyBoy: it's hella easy to set up, it looks good, and has rather good defaults
[04:23] <unfknblvbl> i liek it how the theme manager comes  with ubuntu instead of installing extra crep
[04:23] <ubunter> NeilyBoy - doesn`t work
[04:23] <rem__> at the time it was the only debian based that I found that had an up to date Gnome etc..
[04:23] <rem__> without having to use unstable ..
[04:23] <krazykit> rem__: technically, ubuntu IS debian unstable ;-)
[04:23] <stefg> DtTvB: Uhoh... vmware... that requires the full source-tree (which isn't instzalled by default) and possibly a kernel rebuild
[04:23] <gfxstyler> krazykit, but with patches
[04:24] <rem__> yea..true...but its unstable...ok stable .. :)
[04:24] <DtTvB> OK.
[04:24] <krazykit> stefg: doesn't require a kernel rebuild, needs source tree
[04:24] <NeilyBoy> ubunter: where are you trying to make the shortcut?
[04:24] <Neo8750> so your saying daper = debian unstable?
[04:24] <ubunter> on desktop
[04:24] <DtTvB> I am trying again.
[04:24] <gfxstyler> Neo8750, yeah
[04:24] <boink> isn't dapper based on debian unstable?
[04:24] <rem__> from what I know they work on the unstable to make them stable enough to be in the distro ..
[04:24] <rem__> ?
[04:24] <boink> or is it based on debian testing?
[04:25] <HOT> hmmm i download new module headers and broke truecrypt, anyone got any suggestions
[04:25] <HOT> ?
[04:25] <Neo8750> so edgy is debian super unstable? =8-P
[04:25] <gfxstyler> Neo8750, ubuntu uses unstable debian packages and adds patches and tests them and stuff
[04:25] <NeilyBoy> you should be able to drag the icon on your desktop, but before you let up, hold ALT or CTRL
[04:25] <krazykit> boink: they are all based on debian unstable during the dev cycle.
[04:25] <boink> but dapper?
[04:25] <HOT> uninstalled and reinstalled already, lame question but would i need a reboot ?
[04:25] <gfxstyler> all versions
[04:25] <boink> ok
[04:25] <ubunter> NeilyBoy - on desktop
[04:25] <HOT> modprobe truecrypt shows module not found
[04:25] <booos887> question : i need a fierwal for ubutnu , ???
[04:25] <rem__> Hey..I ger this error when I apt-get update, the link however is reachable from that computer and apt-get update works fine from another computer in the network: 00:04:76:da:3a:87
[04:25] <rem__> Cannot initiate the connection to ch.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (2001:620:0:8:203:baff:fe52:38e6). - connect (101 Network is unreachable) [IP: 2001:620:0:8:203:baff:fe52:38e6 80] 
[04:26] <rem__> anyone ?
[04:26] <krazykit> booos887: not really.
[04:26] <surface> rem__:  why ipv6 address?
[04:26] <krazykit> rem__: sounds like ipv6 isn't workign right on that machine/server
[04:26] <rem__> dunno it says ip in front and it sure doesnt look like an ipv4 adress ..
[04:26] <booos887> i need a fierwal for ubuntu ho dont eat a loot of ram :)
[04:27] <booos887> i need a smal fiewral
[04:27] <booos887> :)
[04:27] <gfxstyler> booos887, firestarter?
[04:27] <NeilyBoy> is a firewall even useful in Linux?
[04:27] <surface> rem__:  where are u from? ipv6 , are u from japan?
[04:27] <stefg> booos887: you already have one... iptables :-)
[04:27] <rem__> ...but why is it using that and why from another machine is it working fine ? is there something in the settings I can change ... ?
[04:27] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, if you do not have open ports, i guess not
[04:27] <booos887> :)
[04:27] <DtTvB> "None of pre-built vmhgfs modules for VMware Tools is suitable for your running kernal." What should I do, since I don't have the source tree?
[04:27] <rem__> Switzerland
[04:27] <boink> Nellyboy: depends on what you need
[04:27] <krazykit> DtTvB: get it.
[04:27] <NeilyBoy> nelly lol
[04:28] <HOT> DtTvB: i had to get it
[04:28] <booos887> i need a smal fierwal ho dont eat my ram :)
[04:28] <HOT> then change the path when asked by the install script
[04:28] <boink> sorry :P
[04:28] <FRET> hello
[04:28] <surface> rem__:  u at some research lab of uni?
[04:28] <stefg> DtTvB: sudo apt-get install linux-source-`uname-r`
[04:28] <NeilyBoy> is ok
[04:28] <HOT> worked me me fella, your millage may vary
[04:28] <DtTvB> Thanks.
[04:28] <booos887> english it'z killing me :)
[04:28] <gfxstyler> booos887, firestarter is just a frontend to iptables i think
[04:28] <surface> rem__:  not sure, another machine also ipv6?
[04:28] <rem__> I copied/paste the source.list from a computer where it works .. :(
[04:28] <surface> gfxstyler:  firestarter is not a good front end
 Grub Not recognising my second hard Disk OS.. Any help
 I USED to have Dual Boot SATA with WinXP and Ubuntu.
 For a Valid reason I removed my first SATA HDD and Placed new SATA Drive in a new slot and Installed Windows Server 2000
[04:28] <Neo8750> why not turn off ipv6/
[04:28] <NeilyBoy> wow linux users rock. i almost forgot, stage6 videos play fine in linux.. even tho stage6 doesn't support linux
[04:28] <booos887> a nother fierwal ho dont eat a loot af resurces
[04:28] <pty> webmin makes configuring iptables pretty easy
[04:29] <gfxstyler> rem__, you could change "ch" to "en" in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:29] <booos887> :)
[04:29] <gfxstyler> surface, i dont use it, sorry
[04:29] <surface> rem__:  i mean did the works computer have ipv6 too?
[04:29] <krazykit> booos887: it doesn't use a lot.
[04:29] <Raj> I tried reinstalling Grub. No luck
[04:29] <DtTvB> `uname-r`, command not found. is it root?
[04:29] <krazykit> DtTvB: uname -r
[04:29] <Raj> Now each time I have to use Bios to swap hard disks
[04:29] <krazykit> DtTvB: you need the space
[04:29] <surface> swt
[04:29] <stefg> DtTvB: there was a space missing between uname and -r
[04:29] <surface> uname is command -r is option
[04:29] <DtTvB> OK.
[04:30] <booos887> i dont now to work with iptables :)
[04:30] <FRET> the following two packages are not updated by aptitude, but the graphical package-manager wants to update them:linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386. Why is that so?
[04:30] <DtTvB> Thank you.
[04:30] <rem__> dunno....i'll have to check...but I didnt install it
[04:30] <Neo8750> booos887: that makes 2 of us [=)
[04:30] <booos887> :)
[04:30] <rem__> they are on ipv4 ....but I have to check if they also use ipv6 ..
[04:30] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, stage6 ?
[04:30] <HOT> anyone got experience of breaking truecrypt with kernel update?
[04:30] <krazykit> booos887: that's the point of firestarter.
[04:30] <booos887> :)
[04:30] <NeilyBoy> gfxstyler: stage6.com
[04:30] <Heptofite> hey, i've got a computer with no optical drive, would i be able to network boot it from a regular ubuntu installation to install ubuntu on it?
[04:30] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, is that porn?
[04:30] <booos887> do you use a fierwal??
[04:31] <Samuli^> RAj, you need to reinstall grub to your first HDD and probably do a little bit menu.lst editing to get XP working again. Otherwise you could try and swap the HD's so that the one with grub is first.
[04:31] <NeilyBoy> gfxstyler: no. here is my profile: http://stage6.divx.com/members/83468/videos
[04:31] <Neo8750> Heptofite: i think you need the alternative cd
[04:31] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, oh, i was just curious to open unknown links :D
[04:31] <HOT> Heptofite: i used BootP to push an install over network with a ne2000 card
[04:31] <NeilyBoy> :P
[04:31] <krazykit> booos887: my router is firewall enough for my needs.  i don't run any servers that are open outside my network
[04:32] <Raj> Samuli, I did try reinstalling grub. It did not write any lines to my menu.lst file
[04:32] <FRET> the following two packages are not updated by aptitude, but the graphical package-manager wants to update them:linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386. Why is that so?
[04:32] <booos887> :) hm... ai dont use nothing for my networh
[04:32] <booos887> :)
[04:32] <Raj> Samuli I can access my dual boot Hdd, But not the second hard disk OS
[04:33] <SimonAnibal> FRET: What do you mean they are not updated, but want to be updated? If Synaptic suggests updating, what's the problem?
[04:33] <Samuli^> RAj, the thing is you have windows 2000 boot-manager on the first HD and grub on the second, right?
[04:33] <booos887> i heard theat seagate fierwal  dont use a lot of ram
[04:33] <booos887> ?
[04:33] <DtTvB> Couldn't fuind package linux-source-2.6.15-26-386.
[04:34] <gfxstyler> booos887, if you dont have any servers/ports open, why bother usign a firewall on linux
[04:34] <Samuli^> booos887, sygate?
[04:34] <Raj> Samuli , Its like this... my sda1 has Xp, sda3 has ubuntu, sdb1 has windows 2000
[04:34] <stefg> DtTvB: Oh, i see... then just sudo apt-get install linux-source
[04:34] <Raj> Samuli, I have no problem accessing xp and 2000
[04:34] <FRET> SimonAnibal, I usually use the commandline and aptitude for managing packages. Aptitude says that it will not update those two packages. But the graphical manager wants to update them. Why?
[04:34] <stefg> (meta-package, will draw the right one as dependency)
[04:34] <FRET> SimonAnibal, I thought they're the same
[04:35] <DtTvB> Thank you.
[04:35] <booos887> :) i"m a beginer i use ubuntu only for downlowding ,music end movie :)
[04:35] <Samuli^> Raj, do you have grub installed or is it the windows boot-manager?
[04:35] <Raj> I have Grub Installed on sda 1 which has xp and ubuntu
[04:35] <Samuli^> raj, yes, but does it load?
[04:35] <SimonAnibal> FRET, I usually let the graphical tools take care of updates
[04:36] <krazykit> booos887: then you don't need a firewall
[04:36] <Raj> Yep, I can access ubuntu and xp on my sda1, To access 2000, I had to use bios to swap HDD to boot from sdb1
[04:36] <SimonAnibal> FRET, Is there any reason you wouldn't want the graphical tool to take care of it?
[04:36] <booos887> are you showre ....nowan cent aceess my computer ef i dont have a fierwal ???
[04:37] <Samuli^> raj, so you can access XP and ubuntu normally, but you don't want to swap things for 2000?
[04:37] <gfxstyler> booos887, if you dont have open ports, no
[04:37] <booos887> or thei cent get acces in to my computer ef i dont have a fierwal
[04:37] <schierbeck> hello. anyone here in the know about ubuntu?
[04:37] <krazykit> booos887: if you're not running any servers (which ubuntu shouldn't by default) then you really ought to be fine.
[04:37] <boink> s/ef/if/
[04:37] <gfxstyler> booos887, btw, you should really concentrate while you are typing :)
[04:37] <surface> schierbeck:  it sounds funny
[04:37] <krazykit> booos887: if there's nothing accessable, they can't get in.
[04:37] <Raj> Samuli, Yep, you are right... I dont think using Bios is a good thing to do
[04:37] <FRET> SimonAnibal, because I like the command line. But in order to better understand ubuntu I'd like to know why they behave differently.
[04:37] <ryctor> hey
[04:38] <stefg> schierbeck: this isn't #windows-unofficial :-)
[04:38] <schierbeck> hehe
[04:38] <booos887> :) my english dead i learn from the tv :)
[04:38] <booos887> bead
[04:38] <boink> there might be an ubuntu channel for your own language
[04:38] <krazykit> booos887: aaaah.  yeah, tv is the wrong place to learn it ;-)
[04:38] <schierbeck> stefg: i'm trying to use another partition as my home folder, i.e. /home
[04:38] <botxj> hey, i learned english from tv too
[04:38] <Samuli^> RAj, for that you need to edit the menu.lst file in the /boot/grub/menu.lst. You probably need to use the mapping command too (kinda the same as bios-switching)
[04:38] <boink> fofm
[04:38] <boink> oops .. didn't we all :)
[04:38] <booos887> :)
[04:38] <ryctor> what is the debian pkg that I need in order to install the C Compiler and be able to compile stuff in Ubuntu?
[04:38] <SimonAnibal> FRET: I certainly understand, and I'm afraid I don't have enough experience with aptitude to be of much use
[04:39] <schierbeck> but when i mount it, i can't even access it
[04:39] <krazykit> ryctor: build-essential
[04:39] <gfxstyler> ryctor, build-essential
[04:39] <gfxstyler> lol
[04:39] <botxj> lol
[04:39] <botxj> great minds think alike
[04:39] <Raj> Samuli, Can you guide me throgh the steps. I can provide all the info u needed
[04:39] <ryctor> Thanks Dudes
[04:39] <boink> ryctor: apt-get install gcc
[04:39] <DtTvB> I used synaptic to look for "linux-source" in name, I found linux-source-2.6.15, I marked it for installation, am I doing right?
[04:39] <krazykit> ryctor: but you may also need some -dev headers depending on the program, as well as the auto-stuff.
[04:39] <Samuli^> Raj, make a working title for windows 2000 with appropriate options and add "map (hd0) (hd1)" "map (hd1) (hd0)"
[04:39] <stefg> schierbeck: no big deal, format it, enter it in your /etc/fstab, mount it temporarily to /mnt and copy all the stuff over
[04:39] <FRET> SimonAnibal, alright...thx :-)
[04:39] <gfxstyler> DtTvB, if you just install linux-source, then it will get updated automatically cause its a meta-package
[04:39] <plut_> can anyone tell me what the command is to do the hardware detection again?
[04:39] <omar> rem__: I install the mule but it's not working
[04:40] <schierbeck> can i format it non-destructively? it's already ext3
[04:40] <HOT> DtTvB: i found the source headers inside the auto updater Gui
[04:40] <omar> rem__: it's not connected
[04:40] <DtTvB> OK, thank you.
[04:40] <omar> rem__: I install the mule but it's not working
[04:40] <stefg> schierbeck: THEN YOU DON'T NEED TO FORMAT AT ALL
[04:40] <stefg> oops, sorry F
[04:40] <bikstopa> cu all
[04:41] <schierbeck> stefg: i just don't know why it's complaining. perhaps i should set some special parameters in /etc/fstab?
[04:41] <Samuli^> raj, I don't have win 2000 so I can't say what the options should look like. I imagine something like "title blabla" "rootnoverify (1,0)" "makedefault" "saveactive" "chainloader +1" and the mapping lines
[04:41] <gfxstyler> ryctor, sudo apt-get install autoconf automake autogen libtool build-essential                 this are common ones
[04:41] <abeot> any information what's wrong as i installed ubuntu dapper and it included openoffice applications, and when i try to run those, applications load themselfs about 5-10sec and after it those close themselfs
[04:41] <stefg> schierbeck: what's the partiton you want to use as /home?
[04:41] <schierbeck> stefg: sdb1
[04:42] <Raj> Samuli, thanks I will try it
[04:42] <omar> guys I install the mule but it's not working, what can I do now
[04:42] <schierbeck> stefg: my main partition is sda1
[04:42] <krazykit> abeot: try running it from gnome-terminal and see if it spews an error message
[04:42] <Crazed> any ppl here who know why my HLDS server wont come online with UBUNTU ..
[04:42] <Crazed> just want to test some stuff ..
[04:42] <Crazed> but it wont get online
[04:42] <Crazed> it's running all fine
[04:42] <Caplain> how do i mount bin files?
[04:42] <Crazed> but it's never available to connect ..
[04:42] <stefg> schierbeck: paste me your fstab to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:43] <rem__> think it was a proxy server issue...reconfigured proxy, ubuntu box, reboot, and apt-get ok now .. :)
[04:43] <gfxstyler> Caplain, maybe: sudo mount -t loop /yourbin /mnt/something
[04:43] <HOT> Caplain: the forums contain a nice script for doing that under tips and tricks, gives you a right click option
[04:43] <Caplain> oooh okay thanks
[04:43] <Raj> Samuli what does this string means? "map (hd0) (hd1) and map (hd1) (hd0)" why are we mapping twice
[04:43] <ryctor> I used to mount file systems
[04:43] <abeot> krazykit: eh what commands it uses?
[04:43] <saif> hello, i noticed that my cpu usage is 100%, system monitor says the beagled is using 90% of cpu, wat is beagled??
[04:43] <phreakys> does anyone know of a good audomixer app?
[04:43] <phreakys> beagle demon
[04:43] <gfxstyler> saif, its a file-indexing daemon
[04:44] <phreakys> ya
[04:44] <gfxstyler> saif, for desktop-search
[04:44] <Crazed> hrm
[04:44] <krazykit> abeot: uh... ooffice
[04:44] <saif> so, it's probably indexing now?
[04:44] <sproingie> i must be the only person that has never had beagled go berzerk
[04:44] <gfxstyler> saif, yeah
[04:44] <pradeep> schierbeck, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[04:44] <phreakys> does anyone know a good subsitute for the crappy alsamixer?
[04:44] <Crazed> or did no one read my question ? :)
[04:44] <sproingie> phreakys: yeah, arts
[04:44] <phreakys> aha
[04:44] <booos887> :)ok i have instal ferststarter
[04:44] <krazykit> Crazed: or we don't know ;-)  is this connecting behind a router?
[04:44] <phreakys> tnx sproingie
[04:44] <booos887> look nice
[04:44] <booos887> :)
[04:44] <abeot> krazykit: seems fglrx problem, thanks alot
[04:44] <Justy> Hello
[04:44] <sproingie> phreakys: i dunno that arts will do too well on gnome tho
[04:44] <gfxstyler> saif, you could run: export BEAGLE_EXERCISE_THE_DOG=1 beagled          to let it update with full cpu, after its done you wont have it updating that much anymore
[04:44] <Crazed> yes and the port is forwarded
[04:44] <Justy> question: how can i make some text run as commands?
[04:44] <Crazed> not a retard ;)
[04:44] <brian__> !
[04:44] <kling0n> starting xgl under dapper with the fglrx driver gives me an error about no dri drivers installed... any pointers?
[04:45] <phreakys> using kde here ;)
[04:45] <schierbeck> stefg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24253
[04:45] <Justy> sudo killall NetworkManager | sudo NetworkManager | cat dns <sit
[04:45] <Justy> In example that one
[04:45] <pradeep> Justy, make the file exectable
[04:45] <kling0n> direct rendering is working correctly in regular x
[04:45] <Justy> pradeep, that didn't work
[04:45] <krazykit> Crazed: you never know :-P  can you connect to it inside your network?
[04:45] <sproingie> doesn't linux have an actual idle priority scheduler these days?  why doesn't beagle use it?
[04:45] <Crazed> netstat -l |grep 27015
[04:45] <Crazed> udp        0      0 *:27015                 *:*
[04:45] <Justy> pradeep, it does killall NetworkManager
[04:45] <SimonAnibal> kling0n, does it bring you to the crashed Xorg screen?
[04:45] <Crazed> no than I get a error in cs
[04:45] <Justy> pradeep, when i ./file it does sudo NetworkManager | cat dns <sit
[04:45] <SimonAnibal> kling0n, the one which prompts you to read the log?
[04:45] <gfxstyler> sproingie, beagle uses inotify and user_xattr, maybe ubuntu doesnt have those
[04:45] <Crazed> something about IP crap ..
[04:46] <FRET> in the file /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/05aptitude I have this: aptitude::Keep-Unused-Pattern "^linux-image.*$ | ^linux-restricted-modules.*$";. WHY???
[04:46] <gfxstyler> sproingie, or the /etc/fstab doesnt contain usr_xattr
[04:46] <Crazed> used hlsw with wine to chk if it is online
[04:46] <Crazed> but also no response ..
[04:46] <saif> gfxstyler,  annoying thing, ok, will try that thanx! does it take too long?!?1 coz i need to work on the mchine, and it's too slow!
[04:46] <phreakys> hm, arts is installed. how can i fire it up?
[04:46] <stefg> schierbeck: that looks right... did you copy the right filetree over?
[04:46] <sproingie> gfxstyler: that has nothing to do with process priority.  if beagle discovers that i created 1000 new files, i still expect it to wait til the system's idle to index 'em
[04:46] <omar> guys I install the mule but it's not working, what can I do now
[04:46] <krazykit> Crazed: then something's not right with the server itself.  i can't help further, as i've not set up hl servers
[04:46] <pradeep> Justy, so killall not working?
[04:46] <wariola> hi everyone
[04:46] <schierbeck> stefg: filetree?
[04:47] <Justy> pradeep, it works
[04:47] <Crazed> think I already know :p
[04:47] <gfxstyler> saif, yes if you have many files, you could do it while going away .. or if you dont need fast+fancy search, do "killall beagled" and remove "beagled" from System->Preferences->Sessions  in gnome
[04:47] <schierbeck> stefg: i haven't touched that partition
[04:47] <Justy> pradeep, but sudo command after killall doesnt
[04:47] <sproingie> gfxstyler: tho i've not actually noticed the cpu problem myself even when i go nuts with lots of files.  i just see everyone else complain tho
[04:47] <Justy> pradeep, i need to do ./file again
[04:47] <stefg> schierbeck: ok... then sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[04:47] <HOT> saif: my personal take is beagle is a resource monster and not worth it, locate seems to work fine for me on reiserfs
[04:47] <saif> gfxstyler, yes, i'll remove it! i dont searc anyways!
[04:48] <schierbeck> stefg: i'll try that
[04:48] <gfxstyler> sproingie, sure, but indexing and checking for new files takes more cpu power if you dont have the stuff posted above working (at least the beagle faq says so )
[04:48] <sproingie> HOT: locate doesn't index the content of files
[04:48] <Justy> pradeep, try it ?
[04:48] <HOT> true
[04:48] <pradeep> Justy, why don't you run the entire file as root?
[04:48] <pradeep> without the sudo
[04:48] <Darkvador> what's the code in fdisk for a ntfs filesystem ?
[04:48] <stefg> schierbeck: and then copy the all folders in /home over to /mnt
[04:48] <Justy> pradeep, i will test..
[04:48] <ryctor> is there a deb pkg for the source files?
[04:48] <sproingie> gfxstyler: ah.  it should just take longer imho, not eat more cpu
[04:48] <schierbeck> stefg: it mounts fine, but when i cd /mnt it says "permission denied"
[04:49] <Crazed> krazykit: forgot the +map thingy ..
[04:49] <Crazed> then it wont load anything
[04:49] <stefg> schierbeck: you need to have root-privileges
[04:49] <Crazed> stupid cs ;)
[04:49] <sproingie> i used to run xfs when i was running 64 bit.  also quite nice for heavy file i/o
[04:49] <schierbeck> stefg: so sudo cp -R /home/* /mnt/ ?
[04:49] <Justy> pradeep, nope, now "NetworkManager" doesn't work...
[04:49] <stefg> schierbeck: right
[04:49] <pradeep> stefg, schierbeck ... if you just 'copy' stuff from home to some other dir ... cp won't copy everything
[04:50] <gfxstyler> cp -a -r
[04:50] <gfxstyler> or what
[04:50] <schierbeck> ok
[04:50] <stefg> ^^^^ right ^^^^
[04:50] <sproingie> gfxstyler: i wonder if ubuntu's ext3 is set up to have extended attributes by default?
[04:50] <FRET> in the file /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/05aptitude I have this: aptitude::Keep-Unused-Pattern "^linux-image.*$ | ^linux-restricted-modules.*$";. WHY???
[04:50] <kling0n> SimonAnibal-Work, no... Xgl  starts correctly
[04:50] <pradeep> Justy, can you paste the file someplace .. or pm
[04:50] <gfxstyler> sproingie, i dont know, the default fstab doesnt contain ex. attributes, though
[04:51] <schierbeck> stefg: ok, what now?
[04:51] <Justy> sure..
[04:51] <sproingie> FRET: so you can go back to an older kernel if the new one fries on you
[04:51] <gfxstyler> sproingie, maybe they use other magic
[04:51] <kling0n> SimonAnibal-Work, but I get segfault when launching compiz
[04:51] <stefg> schierbeck: umount /mnt
[04:51] <kling0n> SimonAnibal-Work,  compiz is from the quinn repository
[04:51] <schierbeck> stefg: done
[04:51] <gfxstyler> kling0n, compiz is called beryl now
[04:51] <sproingie> gfxstyler: if the fstab doesn't specify it, i think it's not on.  seems a pretty big oversight.
[04:51] <stefg> schierbeck: and then uncomment the entry in /etc/fstab again
[04:51] <gfxstyler> i mean compiz-quinnstorm
[04:51] <FRET> sproingie, but somehow I cannot install the new kernel with aptitude, only with the graphical package manager.
[04:52] <SimonAnibal-Work> kling0n: So the error pops up at the gdm login or after you log in? Or only when you try compiz?
[04:52] <FRET> sproingie, is that normal?
[04:52] <saif> ok, wen i first logged in to my session i got an error about .dmrc has wrong permissions, couldn't figure what might have changed it, now i noticed gksudo is giving error sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0662, should be 0440, could this because of ext2fs
[04:52] <sproingie> FRET: that's odd, considering they read from the same package list. i have the opposite problem, the graphical update thingie doesn't install packages anymore
[04:52] <Howitzer> If i use a proxy to surf with firefox, is the traffic still visible on the router i'm connected to for my internet?
[04:52] <kling0n> SimonAnibal-Work,  I log in fine... running metacity under xgl is working
[04:52] <gfxstyler> saif, have you edited the /etc/sudoers ?
[04:52] <saif> nop
[04:52] <kling0n> launching compiz from terminal gives me a segfault
[04:52] <schierbeck> stefg: thanks for the help. i'll try to restart and see what happens.
[04:53] <stefg> schierbeck: hold on...
[04:53] <FRET> sproingie, nice :-)
[04:53] <schierbeck> stefg: shouldn't i chown or something?
[04:53] <sproingie> kling0n: compiz --replace
[04:53] <saif> gfxstyler, what other important system files that should be read only should i check?
[04:53] <gfxstyler> kling0n, try to use compiz-manager
[04:53] <Justy> pradeep, i did...
[04:53] <krazykit> Howitzer: yes.
[04:53] <pradeep> Howitzer, yes has to be
[04:53] <FRET> sproingie, but you don't have any solution for it now?
[04:53] <Howitzer> really?
[04:53] <Howitzer> YES
[04:53] <gfxstyler> kling0n, and forget about the other stuff ... compiz-manager is the easy and comfortable way
[04:53] <stefg> schierbeck: the thing is to test now if it works first. 'sudo mount -a'
[04:53] <SimonAnibal-Work> kling0n, I concur with gfxstyler
[04:53] <Max_-> what is the /&?$/ default root password???  please.
[04:53] <sproingie> FRET: nope, it should definitely be appearing in aptitude too
[04:53] <pradeep> Justy, where?
[04:53] <krazykit> Howitzer: all the traffic is going through the router... the websites simply won't see your real IP
[04:53] <schierbeck> sudo mount -a
[04:53] <sproingie> Max_-: there isn't one
[04:54] <schierbeck> crap, wrong window
[04:54] <Max_-> what!!!!
[04:54] <kling0n> SimonAnibal-Work, gfxstyler ill give it a try :)
[04:54] <boink> !tell Max_ about su
[04:54] <Justy> pradeep, pm it to you
[04:54] <Howitzer> what?
[04:54] <stefg> schierbeck: and then log out and bacjk in agin
[04:54] <FRET> sproingie, it does appear in aptitude, but is not installed. Aptitude says it won't install it
[04:54] <sproingie> Max_-: are you using a screenreader that isn't speaking clearly?
[04:54] <schierbeck> stefg: here goes nothing...
[04:54] <etoy> Hi
[04:54] <schierbeck> brb
[04:54] <Howitzer> so i still can't browse the you-know-what sites without my dad knowing it?
[04:54] <boink> !tell Max_- about su
[04:54] <Howitzer> crap
[04:54] <pradeep> Justy, sure you pmed me ?:)
[04:54] <Max_-> sproingie, no... but what is "linux" without root?!?!
[04:54] <gfxstyler> sproingie, what?!?! :)
[04:55] <Justy> pradeep, i think yes..
[04:55] <boink> having no default root passwd is a big shock for old time nerds
[04:55] <boink> Max_-: you have sudo
[04:55] <stefg> !root
[04:55] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:55] <sproingie> Max_-: it has root.  it just doesn't use a root password
[04:55] <sproingie> FRET: it should tell you why it won't install it if you hit return on the package
[04:55] <jpjacobs> Howitzer,  get a life and a livecd
[04:55] <boink> but you can make a root passwd if you really want that
[04:55] <Justy> pradeep, Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[04:55] <sproingie> FRET: there most likely be a package in red
[04:55] <Howitzer> jpjacobs, why a livecd? (and i do have a life >:( )
[04:55] <Max_-> I really want that, yes!
[04:56] <kling0n> compiz-manager is simply a frontend
[04:56] <krazykit> Howitzer: if you don't want the router to see your traffic, either tunnel into another box or bypass the router physically
[04:56] <gfxstyler> Howitzer, linux will take it away
[04:56] <FRET> sproingie, I'm talking about aptitude in a shell
[04:56] <Howitzer> meh
[04:56] <jpjacobs> Howitzer, just kidding, for the You-know-what-sites ;)
[04:56] <kling0n> SimonAnibal-Work, gfxstyler compiz-manager is simply a frontend
[04:56] <Howitzer> porn isn't worth all that trouble -_-
[04:56] <gfxstyler> kling0n, put compiz-manager in your gnome-session, this will start compiz
[04:56] <kling0n> SimonAnibal-Work, gfxstyler it doesnt change that compiz is crashing
[04:56] <sproingie> FRET: oh just from the command line?  try running the curses gui and find the package and drill down into it
[04:56] <ubunter> hi. this firestarter didn`t show his icon after reboot. i`m trying guarddog now. but there is a question. i want to change some options i gdog but he need super previleges. what should i do?
[04:56] <pradeep> Justy, oh :(
[04:56] <sproingie> FRET: most likely you need to update and dist-upgrade
[04:56] <gfxstyler> kling0n, when i start compiz without compiz-manager it is crashing, too
[04:57] <kling0n> gfxstyler, It still crashes... then reverts to metacity
[04:57] <saif> argh! all my files under /etc are rw for every1! somehow i feel this shouldn't be the case! what should i do?? change all to 644? 600?
[04:57] <gfxstyler> kling0n, with compiz-manager it works, + when it crashes then it will run metacity as fallback
[04:57] <pradeep> Justy-, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:57] <FRET> sproingie, no... I like command-line package-management. There should be no need for a gui. I'll have another try...
[04:57] <JosefK> kling0n: by crash, do you mean segfault?
[04:57] <Justy-> lol
[04:57] <[-Haza-Lappy-] > can anyone redirect me to a good source of ubuntu desktop themes to download? =) thank you
[04:57] <kling0n> JosefK, yes
[04:57] <DtTvB> linux-source: 404 file not found..
[04:57] <Justy-> pradeep, that is cool! but i registered =)
[04:58] <schierbeck> stefg: didn't work...
[04:58] <sproingie> FRET: then figure out the appropriate apt-* command.  otherwise just use the gui that makes it obvious
[04:58] <pradeep> Justy-, good
[04:58] <kling0n> I am suspecting my fglrx driver
[04:58] <schierbeck> stefg: still getting the same error
[04:58] <gfxstyler> [-Haza-Lappy-] , gnome-look.org > murrina    (the best!)
[04:58] <SimonAnibal-Work> kling0n, did you already mention you installed the dri modules?
[04:58] <schierbeck> crap crap crap
[04:58] <stefg> schierbeck: what error
[04:58] <FRET> sproingie, alright...
[04:58] <kling0n> dri is loaded
[04:58] <JosefK> kling0n: i had some odd problems running compiz on fglrx, didn't see a segfault though :/
[04:58] <schierbeck> stefg: "/home/daniel doesn't seem to exists"
[04:58] <Justy-> pradeep, did you recieve my pm now ?
[04:58] <kling0n> SimonAnibal-Work, dri is loaded... but fglrxinfo will not direct render on the XGL display
[04:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !themes
[04:59] <schierbeck> stefg: it can't access the partition at all
[04:59] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[04:59] <JosefK> kling0n: you are running it on display :1 not :0?
[04:59] <kling0n> SimonAnibal-Work, xdriinfo says direct render is not enabled on display :!
[04:59] <sproingie> personally i wish there were gnome and kde clicky front ends for aptitude.  synaptic doesn't have the same power.
[04:59] <kling0n> SimonAnibal-Work, xdriinfo says direct render is not enabled on display :1
[04:59] <[-Haza-Lappy-] > cheers =)
[04:59] <botxj> how many key words does ubotu have?
[04:59] <saif> shit! i can't run sudo!!! so, obviously i can't change permissions!! what could have done this?? last thing i did was update kernel and install vnc
[04:59] <kling0n> JosefK, yes
[04:59] <ubunter> how can i get root power to change the options in guarddog?
[04:59] <kling0n> JosefK, xorg on :0 Xgl on :1
[04:59] <gfxstyler> kling0n, i think that is okay (glxinfo = no direct rendering on xgl - or at least it says so)
[04:59] <SimonAnibal-Work> kling0n, I must confess I run it on AIGLX, and only recently have gotten it to work, I may not be useful to you.
[04:59] <botxj> when you guys talk about x servers and this :0 :1 what does that mean?
[05:00] <gfxstyler> botxj, the display
[05:00] <stefg> schierbeck: check dmesg, if there's file system panic, then sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt again and see what files are on it.
[05:00] <roberts> Can anyone recommend a specific guide to getting a Broadcom 43xx wireless NIC working with Ubuntu?  There are multiple that say to follow different steps, with various success reports.  I have a BCM4309 on a Dell Latitude D500 with Dapper's default 2.6.15.
[05:00] <botxj> oh so :0 is display one?
[05:00] <mdasilva_> botxj:  you can run multiple displays of xorg
[05:00] <kling0n> SimonAnibal-Work, which graphics card are you using?
[05:00] <botxj> cause i have two monitors
[05:00] <gfxstyler> botxj, no, :0 is 0 :D
[05:00] <mdasilva_> botxj: thats correct
[05:00] <sproingie> huh my ups clicked on for a second and the panel told me i was on backup power.  that's nice to know, means my ups is better supported on linux than windows
[05:00] <SimonAnibal-Work> kling0n, Onboard Intel
[05:00] <krazykit> roberts: i suggest ndiswrapper for the broadcom cards for now.
[05:00] <SimonAnibal-Work> kling0n, i810 I think
[05:00] <kling0n> SimonAnibal-Work, ok
[05:00] <Samuli^> how does windows use the samba address?
[05:00] <mdasilva_> botxj: its not monitors, think of it as instances
[05:00] <FRET> sproingie, dist-upgrade works... :-)
[05:00] <ubunter> if there is no root login in ubuntu then how can i force guarddog to save my changes in his options?
[05:00] <roberts> krazykit: The drivers in 2.6.17 aren't worth trying to get working?
[05:00] <Samuli^> would something like this work? //user:pass@ip/share?
[05:01] <sproingie> FRET: that gave you the new kernel?
[05:01] <kling0n> i figure this might be related to the fglrx libGL issue
[05:01] <botxj> yeah, mdasilva_ two instances of an x server?
[05:01] <stefg> ubunter: call it by gksudo guarddog
[05:01] <sproingie> ubotu, tell ubunter about sudo
[05:01] <mdasilva_> yep
[05:01] <mdasilva_> botxj: thats right
[05:01] <JosefK> heh. how's this for a weird bug - synaptic on x86 is fine, but on x64 periodically an event isn't raised for mouse button up
[05:01] <FRET> sproingie, right. linux-image-2.6.15-27-386
[05:01] <skoenman> can anybody please help me i need to get some help on editing a config file in ubutu server
[05:01] <JosefK> gotta cancel a support call out now :(
[05:01] <tritium> skoenman: what kind of help do you need?
[05:01] <Jack_Sparrow> roberts: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[05:02] <FRET> brb...booting new kernel
[05:02] <etoy> I connected to the VPN of my company through pptpclient, but I can not access any computer in my company, anybody can help me?
[05:02] <dcode> I'm having a problem with my mac mini (ppc)...it, seemingly randomly, remounts / as read-only...and happens sometimes during boot, which is a problem
[05:02] <sproingie> FRET: excellent.  i personally use the curses gui all the time, makes updates much easier to review.  i just hit u, U, and g
[05:02] <kling0n> !libGL
[05:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libGL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:02] <gfxstyler> botxj, you can switch the x servers and from console to x-server , pretty cool eh :)
[05:02] <kling0n> !libGL1.2
[05:02] <skoenman> is there a prog that i can use to edit the files
[05:02] <skoenman> ???
[05:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libGL1.2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:02] <ubunter> stefg - my bad. thanks
[05:02] <ubunter> sproingie - good to you
[05:02] <skoenman> just to change the things inside
[05:02] <gfxstyler> roberts, i use bcm43xx and 2.6.17
[05:02] <tritium> skoenman: several.  Do you prefer gui, or command line?
[05:02] <gfxstyler> roberts, works fine here
[05:02] <gfxstyler> as you can see :) im chatting here
[05:03] <skoenman> commandline is the only thing avalable in the server ver
[05:03] <skoenman> commandline is the only thing avalable in the server version
[05:03] <tritium> skoenman: you should have vim, nano, gedit at least installed by default
[05:03] <botxj> yeah, i've known that for a while, using the ctrl-alt-F1,etc, commands
[05:03] <vcolombo> Hey all. Does anyone here happen to use the DragLockButtons option in their X config? Mine does not seem to be working correctly.
[05:03] <tritium> skoenman: ah, server.  Try vim or nano.
[05:03] <saif> is there a command on ubuntu to fix permissions to their default values? for the whole system?
[05:03] <roberts> gfxstyler: What are the explicit benefits for using the bcm43xx driver over ndiswrapper?  I know with the latter option you are using 100% proprietary Windows drivers, but with bcm43xx just the firmware is closed, right?
[05:04] <skoenman> k cool thanks
[05:04] <skoenman> k cheers speak later
[05:04] <krazykit> roberts: well, the bcm43xx driver, in my experience, is totally broken.
[05:04] <gfxstyler> roberts, the newer ndiswrapper doesnt work for me anymore (no connection), and the bcm43xx is open, but that are my only reasons
[05:04] <dcode> I often get "ide-pmac lost interrupt, dma status: 8080"
[05:04] <gfxstyler> saif, ubuntu != osx :)
[05:05] <roberts> I tried getting bcm43xx to work before with Debian testing, to no avail.  I'm now deciding between trying again with Dapper and using ndiswrapper.
[05:05] <ubunter> in my neighbourh the one who uses linux is named "leet" :D
[05:05] <gfxstyler> roberts, ndiswrapper in dapper works fine
[05:06] <saif> gfxstyler, ok, any suggestion on how i should fix the system?!? the permissions have al gone bad, i can't sudo, because the sudoers file has messed permissions as well, so i basically can't do anything!!
[05:06] <JosefK> is anyone else using a synaptics touchpad on amd64?
[05:07] <gfxstyler> saif, do you have an enabled root account?
[05:07] <saif> gfxstyler, no :(
[05:07] <tritium> saif: boot into single user mode, and fix things from there
[05:07] <JosefK> hint: when setting up a chroot, and you have /home bound to /chroot/home, it's not a good idea to rm -r /chroot *slaps head*
[05:07] <tritium> saif: normally, you need not touch the sudoers file.  Instead, make sure your user is in the "admin" group.
[05:08] <gfxstyler> saif, otherwise, you could try to boot off a livecd, and open+save your /etc/sudoers with sudoedit/visudo , maybe that repairs the sudoers file permissions so you can use it again
[05:08] <gfxstyler> JosefK, my girlfriend does (touchpad)
[05:08] <tritium> saif: try booting into rescue mode first
[05:08] <gfxstyler> i mean, she uses it
[05:08] <jazzspazz> canany get to bsdnexus.com?
[05:09] <jazzspazz> it loads for me fine in vmware
[05:09] <JosefK> gfxstyler: has she noticed an intermittent problem with ButtonRelease events?
[05:09] <jazzspazz> butthe page wont load for me in firefox
[05:09] <SimonAnibal-Work> gfxstyler, did you feel you needed to qualify that? :)
[05:09] <jazzspazz> or links
[05:09] <krazykit> jazzspazz: works fine.
[05:09] <saif> gfxstyler, tritium i will try boot to rescue, c what happens there, fix sudoes ( fingers crossed ) and then mess with the rest of the permissions!
[05:09] <JosefK> gfxstyler: I'm only having trouble with it on amd64, not i386, it seems a bit of an obscure bug
[05:09] <gfxstyler> SimonAnibal-Work, what do you mean by that :)
[05:09] <tritium> saif: okay.  Remember that you choose rescue mode from the grub menu
[05:10] <gfxstyler> JosefK, err .. it works like on windows but smoother, like mine does on i386
[05:10] <gfxstyler> i noticed no errors
[05:10] <saif> tritium, yeah, recovery mode!
[05:10] <JosefK> weird, I'll see if there are any flags I can set in xorg.conf
[05:10] <tritium> saif: yep, same as "single user mode" also.  Many names ;)
[05:10] <SimonAnibal-Work> gfxstyler, "my girlfriend does (touchpad)", you qualified it with "she uses it", maybe you thought we'd take the first one incorrectly
[05:10] <jazzspazz> do you know why it does not work for me?
[05:10] <jazzspazz> its weird isint it?
[05:11] <gfxstyler> SimonAnibal-Work, oh yeah, the former one does mean something else i think, thats why i explained it
[05:11] <rasputnik> anyone know where the 2.6 smp kernels went?
[05:11] <manish_> hi
[05:11] <JosefK> rasputnik: you're using edgy?
[05:11] <manish_> hello
[05:11] <rasputnik> JosefK: no, dapper
[05:11] <manish_> who all r here
[05:12] <JosefK> rasputnik: hmm :/ they're still there in dapper for me at least, you didn't run automatix by any chance?
[05:12] <pradeep> manish_, i'm here
[05:12] <manish_> hi pradeep
[05:12] <gpettit> Is there an app-note or wiki on creating your own-ubuntu
[05:12] <rasputnik> JosefK: nope, just stock.
[05:12] <manish_> from which place u belong
[05:12] <SimonAnibal-Work> gfxstyler, heh, I wouldn't have even thought about it if you hadn't qualified it... and your english is impeccable
[05:12] <DethKlok> Is there a way to make it so your ssh session doesnt time out from not using it?
[05:13] <pradeep> manish_, india
[05:13] <JosefK> rasputnik: linux-686-smp ?
[05:13] <Dragonfire1> Finally loaded ubuntu from cd mailed to me I qess my cd burn wasn't good I'm finally on with another computer heha! Now to to explore thanks ubuntu!
[05:13] <manish_> ok pradeep
[05:13] <gfxstyler> SimonAnibal-Work, thanks
[05:13] <manish_> i belong from kerala
[05:13] <quiet> is there a way to get/use alsaconf in dapper?
[05:13] <quiet> if no.. how does one add a new sound card?
[05:13] <pradeep> manish_, nice .. me from chennai :)
[05:13] <gfxstyler> rasputnik, maybe smp kernels are just in universe and you disabled it in your sources.list
[05:13] <stefg> !sound
[05:13] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[05:13] <Dragonfire1> running this in puppy
[05:14] <rasputnik> JosefK: oh there it is ! 'apt-cache search 2.6 smp kernel' showed up nothing
[05:14] <rasputnik> thanks
[05:14] <JosefK> np's :)
[05:14] <ubunter> question: what turn on in guarddog to allow viewing websites (i pushed ON DNS)?
[05:14] <rasputnik> gfxstyler: no, they're in main
[05:15] <Dragonfire1> catch you later on yhe other sytem bye
[05:15] <abeot> any is there any cd image burning software in ubuntu?
[05:15] <DethKlok> Anyone know much about SSH?
[05:15] <gpettit> I would like to slim ubuntu down a bit and then make another cd image.  Any suggestions?
[05:15] <gfxstyler> rasputnik, thats weird, no linux-686-smp ?
[05:15] <gfxstyler> abeot, gnomebaker
[05:15] <JosefK> gfxstyler: he has that one :) the lack of version number in the package name confused his cache search
[05:15] <tritium> abeot: even nautilus can burn
[05:16] <gfxstyler> JosefK, oh, sorry
[05:16] <stefg> gfxstyler: smp is now the default... if you want a single-core kernel you have to build it yourself
[05:16] <rasputnik> JosefK, gfxstyler : actually it looks like the 686 kernel is the smp kernel (and linux-686-smp is a metapackage now)
[05:16] <gfxstyler> stefg, in edgy? cool (i use smp, too)
[05:16] <JosefK> indeed it is rasputnik, it's all in the boot options these days
[05:17] <stefg> gfxstyler: already in dapper
[05:17] <abeot> tritium: images to cd?
[05:17] <JosefK> stefg: the obscure thing is that if I want it to see both of my cores (core 2 duo), I have to install an -smp package
[05:17] <tritium> abeot: yes
[05:17] <rasputnik> JosefK: case closed. <play themetune>
[05:18] <rasputnik> JosefK: I'm just hyperthreaded, but can't use it without smp
[05:18] <gfxstyler> JosefK, do you have HT? maybe ht=on as kernel parameter helps
[05:18] <JosefK> thinking about it, this chip probably should have HT... I'll google it
[05:18] <rasputnik> right, time for a bounce
[05:18] <Supaplexg> i'd like to hear some views of what the best musicplayer for GNU/Linux out there is - according to you. i am using amaroK, but it doesn't seem to have support for jack, but I do not want to go back to xmms. do you know any good alternatives (rhytmbox seemed not to even have any configuration options to set audio-out etc)
[05:18] <stefg> !best
[05:18] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[05:19] <JosefK> alas no HT gfxstyler, just two cores
[05:19] <gfxstyler> Supaplexg, beep-media-player (like xmms but better), bmpx (beta of beep-media-player), banshee (is c# and thus uses mono, i think it is similar to rhythmbox except it doesnt crash that often)
[05:20] <ubunter> how i change root-protected file into new one?
[05:20] <gfxstyler> ubunter, sudo chown user:group file
[05:20] <gfxstyler> ubunter, or sudo chown user:group -R directory
[05:20] <tritium> ubunter: be careful with what you're doing.  You shouldn't go changing permissions on system files.
[05:21] <ubunter> tritium - i have no choice
[05:21] <tritium> ubunter: why?
[05:21] <seif> tritium, gfxstyler that did it, i changed the permissions on sudoers to 0440
[05:21] <ubunter> becauce i must change this file into new version
[05:22] <gfxstyler> ubunter, yeah, seif had the same problem (screwed up file permissions for system files)
[05:22] <SimonAnibal-Work> ANYONE: I have dapper, and I've installed aiglx + compiz, however whenever I click on the power-button-looking Quit icon, compiz freezes. Does anyone have any experience with this? In my research online I've found that some people claim that reverting gnome-session to 2.14.0-0 would fix this issue, but I've not been able to find a way to do that.
[05:22] <stefg> !xgl
[05:22] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:22] <seif> tritium, gfxstyler but now i know that all the permissions on system files are fucked!! what should i do?? chmod to what?!?!
[05:22] <tritium> seif: you're not supposed to ever touch /etc/sudoes.
[05:22] <tritium> Watch the language, seif.
[05:22] <seif> any howtoes on what the permissions should be?
[05:22] <tritium> /etc/sudoers, that is
[05:22] <cfedde> how do I find out what video card this system has installed?
[05:23] <stefg> SimonAnibal-Work: #ubuntu-xgl
[05:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !language
[05:23] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:23] <ubunter> so is there any alternative?
[05:23] <tritium> sudo priveleges are given by membership in the admin group
[05:23] <helpmeeee> hey... can someone give me a modeline for xubuntu 1024x768 120hz ??
[05:23] <ubunter> i must change da file but i dont wanna screw
[05:23] <seif> tritium, ok, i never touced it!! that's the problem, i booted up, and noticed that all the permissions were changed!! all of them!!
[05:23] <gfxstyler> seif, i would just re-install ubuntu (cause ubuntu just takes 5 mins to install :) )
[05:23] <tritium> seif: what are you running?
[05:23] <tritium> dapper?  edgy?
[05:23] <seif> tritium, dapper 64
[05:24] <tritium> gfxstyler: was the other person with this problem also running 64-bit?
[05:24] <gfxstyler> cfedde, sudo lspci | grep vga
[05:24] <seif> gfxstyler, it took me hours setting up gridsphere, tomcat, sql, and all the things i like! re-installing would mess all this up!
[05:24] <gfxstyler> tritium, seif was the one, i dont know if he runs 64bit
[05:24] <cfedde> gfxstyler: thanks
[05:24] <seif> ubunter, dapper 64?
[05:24] <helpmeeee> hey... can someone give me a modeline for xubuntu 1024x768 120hz ?? OR tell me how could i get my fuckedup vista to work again. i installed vista on hda5 .. xp was on hda1 . i formated hda1 and installed ubuntu on hda1 .. how can i get to vista ???
[05:24] <gfxstyler> seif, okay, no good idea then
[05:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !language
[05:25] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:25] <tritium> helpmeeee: language!
[05:25] <helpmeeee> sry sry
[05:25] <cfedde> gfxstyler: thanks sudo lspci | grep -i vga even
[05:25] <n1c> Hey guys.
[05:25] <scrp> helpmeeee: forget Wintendo
[05:26] <gfxstyler> lol
[05:26] <gfxstyler> good one
[05:26] <helpmeeee> no i want to get back there :D
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Wintendo.. very funny
[05:26] <scrp> helpmeeee: usually Windows wants to run on hda1
[05:26] <helpmeeee> how can i set hda5 to be hda1
[05:26] <scrp> helpmeeee: you dont
[05:26] <JosefK> helpmeeee: edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:26] <n1c> What's the easiest way to dial PPPoE from the edgy gui?
[05:26] <gfxstyler> cfedde, i think it has to be uppercase, like VGA
[05:26] <seif> i tink most importantly i should protect the password files, and things like that, i suppose those are under etc? change permissions to 640? 440?
[05:27] <scrp> seif: the default permissions are fine :p
[05:27] <helpmeeee> boot/grub/menu.lst . ill check that stuff
[05:27] <JosefK> helpmeeee: windows can't be on hda5 anyway, because that's an extended partition
[05:27] <cfedde> gfxstyler: yea.  see my paste above.  where I added the -i to your command.
[05:27] <JosefK> helpmeeee: hda6?
[05:27] <helpmeeee> mby that then
[05:27] <seif> scrp: i wish i could get them back!
[05:27] <gfxstyler> cfedde, oh, sorry :)
[05:27] <cfedde> gfxstyler: :-)
[05:27] <JosefK> helpmeeee: just take the example at the bottom of /boot/grub/menu.lst and customise it for your system
[05:28] <scrp> seif: you can try to edit grub like they say, but sometimes (in my cases) Wintendo just wont run unless on hda1
[05:29] <roberts> If a package is in Universe, does that mean it's definately Free Software according to (roughly) the DFSG?
[05:29] <gfxstyler> scrp, whats even worse, it wont recognize other primary partitions
[05:29] <tritium> !universe > roberts
[05:29] <gfxstyler> scrp, but i found a fix, fs-driver.org << that driver can mount windows partitions too (even when windows doesnt recognize them) so you can use them again
[05:29] <seif> scrp: u obviously mixed me up for some1 else, my problem is that somehow, all the permissions on ubuntu got mixed up! system files are writeable globally! :S
[05:30] <thilak> Hey checkout this link http://digg.com/design/How_to_Draw_Graffiti_on_Websites/, really funny
[05:30] <zoidberg_> guys is there a webdav client for UBUNTU?
[05:30] <tritium> thilak: please stay on topic
[05:30] <SimonAnibal-Work> stefg, noone's alive in ubuntu-xgl :-(
[05:30] <scrp> seif: aw
[05:30] <stefg> !info davfs2
[05:30] <ubotu> davfs2: mount a WebDAV resource as a regular file system. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.2.8-1build1 (dapper), package size 57 kB, installed size 212 kB
[05:30] <thilak> tritium: sure ;)
[05:30] <plut_> #@$#@2
[05:30] <plut_> bah
[05:30] <scrp> seif: well, lol NEVER mess with chmod as root
[05:30] <Moodles> I just accidently rm *'d a directory, is there anyway to undelete the files. the drive's filesystem is ext3
[05:30] <scrp> seif: and never ever use -R
[05:30] <scrp> lol
[05:30] <plut_> still no luck with this damn wifi card
[05:30] <Teethy> Hi - i am a new to Ubuntu and want to migrate - during the installation process I continue to get error while partitioning, my questions is when I am asked ' How do you want to partion disk' is the slider to define the New Linux partiont OR does it mean how to resize the windows NTFS partition - im sorry a lame question but i need help
[05:30] <Jack_Sparrow> gfxstyler: Is that supposed to be for use when you mount a partiton and still cant see it?
[05:31] <helpmeeee> hey theres nothing about wintendo in that .lst file
[05:31] <plut_> anyone here played with an asrock mobo before?
[05:31] <Moodles> plut_: is it a netgear card by any chance?
[05:31] <plut_> Moodles: SMC Prism GT based
[05:31] <SimonAnibal-Work> helpmeeee, I believe Wintendo is a joke, meant to disparage Windows
[05:31] <gfxstyler> Jack_Sparrow, i dont know, i just had a primary fat32 partition and windows didnt recognize it, then i mounted it with the fs-driver.org tool and it appeared in windows again :)
[05:31] <helpmeeee> i know that
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> ah
[05:31] <helpmeeee> :l
[05:31] <seif> scrp, :S argh! a lot of nevers, so ur saying i should leave them globally writeable?!?! or just turn off my machine so i won't loose data? incase of a vulerability? ( first time i say that about ubuntu! )
[05:31] <scrp> Teethy: Ubuntu is asking if how big the partition should be, thus resizing your current ntfs partition to fit another partition in there
[05:31] <helpmeeee> come on:D
[05:32] <heXLer> hi  I need an analog TV Card for my notebook. Can somebody advice me one that works with Ubuntu ?
[05:32] <scrp> seif: im saying you shouldnt have messed up all your permissions in the first place :)
[05:32] <stefg> Teethy: You have only one big ntfs partition covering the whole drive now?
[05:32] <gfxstyler> Moodles, i heard about ext2undelete
[05:32] <Teethy> @scrp that means - if my old NTFS partition is 60 GB and I want 10 for Linux I woudl set the slideer down to 50 or shoudl i define it as 10GB?
[05:33] <SimonAnibal-Work> helpmeeee, Hey, cut me a break :) I'm a professional technology assistant, you wouldn't believe the things I've heard come out of people's mouths
[05:33] <helpmeeee> there are these three options that i can select . ubuntu, ubuntu recory mode, memtest ... so how do i put windows on that list
[05:33] <stefg> !hardware
[05:33] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:33] <seif> scrp, i didn't! i just logged in and got an error that my .dmrc has wrong permissions, changed the permission for my home foder without sudo, and then i discovered the disaster!
[05:33] <tritium> Run, smurfs!  It's azrael_ !
[05:33] <SimonAnibal-Work> helpmeeee, Is there a commented out Windows entry?
[05:33] <azrael_> kanas ellhnas re paidia?
[05:33] <scrp> Teethy: err, not 100% sure, but i think you define it as 10GB (i've only set up Ubuntu once)
[05:33] <SimonAnibal-Work> helpmeeee, They usually have commented out entries for various OSs
[05:33] <helpmeeee> il check again
[05:33] <plut> stefg
[05:33] <Moodles> gfxstyler: yeah I think it only works in ext2
[05:33] <SimonAnibal-Work> helpmeeee, To aid you in creating valid entries for your own
[05:33] <plut> i just tried ndiswrapper
[05:33] <scrp> seif: mhmmh
[05:34] <gfxstyler> Moodles, but ext3 is ext2 with journals
[05:34] <plut> and breezy wont find the card still
[05:34] <plut> :/
[05:34] <tritium> azrael_: English here, please
[05:34] <azrael_> sorry
[05:34] <Teethy> no harm in trying then ;)
[05:34] <pettern> is there a list of hardware that works with the ubuntu kernel?
[05:34] <helpmeeee> no windows
[05:34] <plut> yes
[05:34] <stefg> !hardware
[05:34] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:34] <plut> there is
[05:34] <Teethy> ive gotten an errir defining it at 50GB
[05:34] <Crescendo> I can't connect to an FTP server, it says "Unable to display all the contents".
[05:34] <sudharsh> hi when i use vcds in xine-ui or gxine i get the following error
[05:34] <Moodles> yeah I just looked at a ext3, ext3 zeros out files, whereas ext2 just labels it as used.. something like that
[05:34] <sudharsh> xine: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.1.1/xineplug_inp_vcd.so: undefined symbol: vcdinfo_get_seg_resolution
[05:34] <pettern> thanks
[05:34] <tritium> azrael_: no problem, just easier to help you that way :)
[05:35] <SimonAnibal-Work> helpmeee, The windows entry should go something like:
[05:35] <gfxstyler> Crescendo, enable passive-mode
[05:35] <SimonAnibal-Work> helpmeeee, title     Windows XP
[05:35] <seif> scrp, reinstall ubuntu?! which i would really hate to do, it's take me 2 days to get back to the point it was at!
[05:35] <gfxstyler> Moodles, oh, thats bad
[05:35] <SimonAnibal-Work> helpmeeee, root     (hd0,0)
[05:35] <SimonAnibal-Work> helpmeeee, makeactive
[05:35] <Crescendo> gfxstyler, how?
[05:35] <SimonAnibal-Work> helpmeeee, chainloader +1
[05:36] <gfxstyler> Crescendo, in your ftp client, which one do you use?
[05:36] <Crescendo> Nautilus.
[05:36] <zoidberg_> guys my school has a school network that has my drives that i can access...i'm trying to access them under ubuntu...i tried just connecting to the server and etnering the HTTP:// address and in one case the HTTPS:// ...but when i would try to logon i would enter my username and passwrod and it would say it is incorrect...any help?
[05:36] <Crescendo> >_>
[05:36] <n1c> Is there any particular reason why I get "This option is not available" when I try "pppoeconf" in edgy?
[05:36] <SimonAnibal-Work> helpmeeee, however, if your windows partition is not on (hd0,0) you'll first need to map it to (hd0,0)
[05:36] <SimonAnibal-Work> helpmeeee, Windows is anal about being there
[05:36] <helpmeeee> so how can i do that
[05:36] <gfxstyler> sudharsh, that means that xine wants to use a method that does not exist
[05:36] <SimonAnibal-Work> helpmeeee, give me a second
[05:36] <helpmeeee> second given
[05:36] <gfxstyler> Crescendo, i dont know if nautilus can do that
[05:36] <gfxstyler> Crescendo, i use gftp
[05:36] <Crescendo> It works at the house.  :(
[05:37] <SimonAnibal-Work> helpmeeee, http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/map.html
[05:37] <sudharsh> gfxstyler, yeah but my dad is a little upset anyway..:(
[05:37] <Teethy> well thats a dead end also - get the ERROR - FAILED TO CREATE ENOUGH SPACE FOR INSTALLATION - i now get this error both ways so coudl it be possible my drive refuses to accept ubuntu?
[05:37] <gfxstyler> Crescendo, are you behind a firewall/router ?
[05:37] <Crescendo> Yes.
[05:37] <steven43126> hi
[05:37] <Crescendo> It worked before I reloaded this computer, too, though.
[05:37] <SimonAnibal-Work> helpmeeee, it seems it's ok if it's not (hd0,0) as long is it's (hd0)
[05:37] <steven43126> Is it possible to launch a script when a device is inserted ? ie a usbdrive could launch a backup program?
[05:38] <gfxstyler> Crescendo, do you have a static ip or do you use dhcp? because if you use dhcp, you may just have the correct ports forwarded to another one (dhcp chooses a ip on each boot)
[05:38] <helpmeeee> k ill try to hack something
[05:38] <SimonAnibal-Work> helpmeeee, so map your Windows drive to (hd0), and map (hd0) to your Windows drive before you makeactive it and
[05:38] <steven43126> i can configure the name of the drive using udev? but can i launch a script from there ?
[05:38] <SimonAnibal-Work> helpmeeee, then the chainloader +1 should kick it into high gear
[05:38] <helpmeeee> huh
[05:38] <SimonAnibal-Work> helpmeeee, I've got NO experience with Vista though, so YMMV
[05:38] <NicoleB> Hi all!  I am hoping to load a student edition of IDL onto my laptop with dapper drake.  But they say their IDL is for Red hat Linux.  Is it compatible?
[05:38] <helpmeeee> i sure hope so
[05:38] <eyequeue> so ms prevents their os from installing onto a third hard drive for example?
[05:39] <SimonAnibal-Work> eyequeue, nod
[05:39] <gfxstyler> lol
[05:39] <SimonAnibal-Work> eyequeue, except through crafty BIOS-juggling GRUB tricks
[05:39] <helpmeeee> i just got comfortable with vista and then it all went to hell
[05:39] <Jack_Sparrow> eyequeue: Not impossible... just not simple
[05:39] <helpmeeee> so now im here
[05:39] <eyequeue> SimonAnibal-Work, sounfs like shooting themselves in the foot
[05:40] <oskude> NicoleB: "compatible" yes. but propably the libraries it needs are not the same version as in red hat...
[05:40] <eyequeue> alienate the high-end users, etc
[05:40] <SimonAnibal-Work> eyequeue, *lol* I've stopped trying to understand M$'s business strategies a long time ago
[05:40] <roberts> "In universe you can find almost every piece of open source software, and software available under a variety of less open licences"   What does that mean 'less open licenses'?
[05:40] <NicoleB> oskude:  so it would lose some library programs?
[05:40] <eyequeue> but they are offtopic here, my apologies
[05:41] <nightshade> hey guys what are some basic things i need to know about linux
[05:41] <SimonAnibal-Work> eyequeue, :) Yeah, don't get a channel full of Linux geeks talking about Microsoft, it gets ugly
[05:41] <gfxstyler> lol
[05:41] <roberts> nightshade: It's a kernel, not an operating system.
[05:41] <SimonAnibal-Work> nightshade, that depends on how much experience you have otherwise
[05:41] <nightshade> ok
[05:41] <n1c> Is there any particular reason why I get "This option is not available" when I try "pppoeconf" in edgy?
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> nightshade,  ya need to know how to use google and how to search for 'tutorials/howtos/guides/docs' :) thats a fundamental thing to know.
[05:41] <gfxstyler> roberts, maybe they mean the lgpl (but it is free, too)
[05:41] <nightshade> iam brandnew at this
[05:41] <oskude> NicoleB: i mean, if like the program needs foolibraryX.Y and you got foolibraryY.X, it wont work... but you wont "loose" anything... normally
[05:41] <zoidberg_> can anyone help me out
[05:41] <SimonAnibal-Work> nightshade, I mean at computers in general, you obviously have enough skill to get here
[05:42] <Sakireth> Hi. During post-installation, I got this error: robin@robin-desktop:~$ sudo update-flashplugin
[05:42] <Sakireth> Password:
[05:42] <Sakireth> automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes
[05:42] <Sakireth> . It was during flash installation.
[05:42] <nightshade> iam good at that
[05:42] <eyequeue> nightshade, linux or ubuntu?
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> nightshade,  linux is like "Layers and legos"    little bits forming a foundation, that the next layer builds upon. Learn the fundamentals and you build a good knowledge foundation.
[05:42] <nightshade> ubuntu
[05:42] <zoidberg_> guys my school has a school network that has my drives that i can access...i'm trying to access them under ubuntu...i tried just connecting to the server and etnering the HTTP:// address and in one case the HTTPS:// ...but when i would try to logon i would enter my username and passwrod and it would say it is incorrect...any help?
[05:42] <NicoleB> oskude:  so, it won't hurt it to try?  Could I download those library files if I need one?
[05:42] <roberts> gfxstyler: Hmm, that's a strange way of phrasing the description of Universe, calling the LGPL less "open" than the GPL.  Merely becuase it lacks a copyleft clause?
[05:42] <stefg> http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm good primer on "what i need to know about linux" :-)
[05:42] <eyequeue> nightshade, learn the tools provided with your distro, patricularly package tool
[05:43] <helpmeeee> SimonAnibal-Work:  bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[05:43] <helpmeeee> :S
[05:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Sakireth: http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/08/install-mozilla-flash-plugin-in-ubuntu.html
[05:43] <cynical> zoidberg_: talk to your system admin and make sure your username/password hasn't changed
[05:43] <nightshade> whats that distro?
[05:43] <Supaplexg> stefg:what do you think about gentoo?
[05:43] <eyequeue> nightshade, synaptic or apt for example
[05:43] <gfxstyler> roberts, i dont know, i just know that you dont have to provide the source of your applications when you use lgpl libraries except if you changed them
[05:43] <SimonAnibal-Work> helpmeeee, the line I spat here would be put in your menu.lst for GRUB to interpret, not BASH
[05:43] <Supaplexg> eyequeue:what do you think about gentoo?
[05:43] <eyequeue> nightshade, ubuntu is a distro
[05:43] <Supaplexg> just askin
[05:43] <nightshade> o ok
[05:43] <helpmeeee> lol:D k
[05:43] <stefg> ubuntu is an old african saying for: "I'm tired of compiling" :-)
[05:43] <oskude> NicoleB: hmm, you still didnt get it. red hat (propably) uses different library versions than ubuntu, so that package (compiled for redhat library versions) wont high likely not work... i would email them and ask for a ubuntu .deb package, or are they so lame ? ;)
[05:43] <SimonAnibal-Work> helpmeeee, try "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[05:44] <jbroome> man, that joke never gets old
[05:44] <Krooga> question: how much confidence should I place in ntfs-3g?
[05:44] <eyequeue> Supaplexg, not into compiling everything, too resource intensive for my old hardware
[05:44] <gfxstyler> stefg, lol!
[05:44] <helpmeeee> gedit doesnt work.. i have to use thunar or nano
[05:44] <helpmeeee> weird
[05:44] <akash> hey i just installed the latest ubuntu using the alternate install cd. It said that for systems less than 192MB RAM that was the proper thing to install. The problem is it is too slow.
[05:44] <NicoleB> oskude:  Maybe they are.  Thanks for the info.  Nicole
[05:44] <eyequeue> Krooga, zero, per many here, i've never used it
[05:44] <jbroome> Krooga: depends, how much do you value what's on the ntfs partition? :)
[05:44] <SimonAnibal-Work> helpmeeee, regardless, you understand what I mean now
[05:44] <stefg> Krooga: depends on the date of your last backup....
[05:44] <helpmeeee> jes
[05:44] <oskude> NicoleB: but if you really want to see your self, look for "alien" package in ubuntu
[05:44] <n1c> Is there any particular reason why I get "This option is not available" when I try "pppoeconf" in edgy?
[05:44] <Sakireth> Jack_Sparrow: But it was described in the guide as 'sudo flashplugin-update'
[05:44] <gfxstyler> akash, try to use another DE
[05:44] <Sakireth> i had to install a free version of flash./
[05:45] <Caplain> how do i have an application launch on gnome start?
[05:45] <roberts> gfxstyler: Right, non-copyleft (assuming it's only the libraries that are LPGLed).  But if one used LGPLed libraries for an application and modified the libraries, I don't think the application itself needs to be Free, just the changes to the libraries.
[05:45] <eyequeue> n1c, wrong channel, /join #ubuntu+1
[05:45] <stefg> !edgy
[05:45] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:45] <plut> okie
[05:45] <oskude> NicoleB: "alien" converts .rpm to debian .deb files, but the library mismatch remains!
[05:45] <plut> tell me someone
[05:45] <roberts> !schedule
[05:45] <kling0n> Caplain, edit system-pref-session
[05:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:45] <Sakireth> Jack_Sparrow: i had to install a free version of flash.
[05:45] <akash> gfxstyler, what is de?
[05:45] <plut> how long would modprobe take if i specified a new driver
[05:45] <n1c> Thanks eyequeue.
[05:45] <plut> and got the modules to load
[05:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Sakireth: Some people have have problems and that was a way to get them going again with flash
[05:45] <eyequeue> n1c, np
[05:45] <gfxstyler> akash, desktop environment .. gnome is pretty heavy on very old systems so you may use *box or xfce (xubuntu)
[05:45] <Sakireth> Jack_Sparrow: Is it a newer version of flash?
[05:45] <plut> n1c
[05:45] <plut> !
[05:45] <plut> 1`
[05:46] <Caplain> kling0n: thanks
[05:46] <n1c> HAHAH
[05:46] <n1c> wtf are you doing in here plut?
[05:46] <akash> gfxstyler, do i need to install it over this or a brand new install ?
[05:46] <plut> asking for help dude
[05:46] <plut> :/
[05:46] <n1c> Hahah
[05:46] <n1c> join the club :D
[05:46] <plut> trying to get my damn wifi card running
[05:46] <n1c> And join the spam fest.
[05:46] <plut> yeah
[05:46] <plut> :|
[05:46] <stefg> !wifi
[05:46] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:46] <plut> stefg
[05:46] <plut> i just referred there
[05:46] <plut> :/
[05:46] <tritium> !enter
[05:46] <gfxstyler> akash, no, you can just install it in the package manager and choose it at the login screen (sessions)
[05:46] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[05:46] <plut> and cant get this damn card to work
[05:46] <Supaplexg> are you bsd user eyequeue?
[05:46] <n1c> plut Do you by any tiny change dial PPPoE from your ubuntu?
[05:46] <plut> no
[05:47] <plut> i've got my netgear on router mode
[05:47] <n1c> :|
[05:47] <plut> what router do you have?
[05:47] <akash> gfxstyler, thanks i will just try that
[05:47] <eyequeue> Supaplexg, someone is impersonating me? ;-)  thanks for the heads-up, heh, and no
[05:47] <n1c> The old telkom pots one.
[05:47] <n1c> But I like using PPPoE because it gives me more control over accounts.
[05:47] <gfxstyler> akash, the package is called xubuntu-desktop i think
[05:47] <plut> yeah
[05:47] <plut> you do have control
[05:47] <Sakireth> Anyone? Why do I get this error? http://pastie.caboo.se/14360
[05:47] <n1c> I can make the router dhcp and dial, but it's lame.
[05:47] <plut> thing is
[05:47] <eyequeue> Supaplexg, not that i haven't had my chare of bds, but not by the name
[05:47] <eyequeue> Supaplexg, not that i haven't had my chare of bds, but not by thIS name
[05:47] <plut> i'm in a predicament with that
[05:48] <plut> ah yes
[05:48] <Krooga> hmm, i can't help but feel that, having close to a terabyte of ntfs formatted volumes, bill gates has made me his bitch
[05:48] <plut> well yeah - you need a decent dhcp server
[05:48] <plut> i'm just struggling to run with the NIC i have
[05:48] <n1c> :/
[05:48] <plut> breezy doesnt support my damn onboard
[05:48] <oskude> Sakireth: whats "update-flashplugin" ?
[05:48] <plut> and my 3com card isnt being detected
[05:48] <n1c> Oh fun.
[05:48] <stefg> !doesn't work
[05:48] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[05:48] <Sakireth> oskude: I have it from the guide.
[05:48] <plut> yeah
[05:48] <frying_fish> Krooga: well, buy 1 drive and convert them one at a time, thats what I did originally
[05:48] <plut> i have a feeling it's my mobo driver
[05:49] <n1c> :/
[05:49] <plut> so i'm going to try get it to detect
[05:49] <oskude> Sakireth: seems very unofficial... i dont have that package in my sources, and never heard about "the guide", sorry...
[05:49] <Krooga> since ntfs isn't too linux friendly, how windows friendly are linux filesystems?
[05:49] <gfxstyler> Sakireth, why not update with the package manager
[05:49] <Sakireth> gfxstyler: It was in the GUIDE.
[05:49] <frying_fish> Krooga: ext3 works with a driver.
[05:49] <gfxstyler> Krooga, ext3 can be used very easily in windows, www.fs-driver.org
[05:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Krooga: You can read ntfs with no problems
[05:50] <gfxstyler> Krooga, read-write
[05:50] <eyequeue> Krooga, there is one for ext2 i'm told, on some site with "file" or "driver" or somthing in it
[05:50] <gfxstyler> Krooga, it says ext2 but ext3 works, too
[05:50] <eyequeue> Krooga, what gfxstyler said
[05:50] <Krooga> any idea of the efficiency of ntfs vs ext2/3 in a windows environment?
[05:50] <Supaplexg> eyequeue:okay =)
[05:51] <NoWhereMan> hi guys
[05:51] <roberts> Krooga: It's not a matter of open filesystems being Windows-friendly, it's a matter of Microsoft adding support for them into Windows at no charge.  By default, you'll find that filsystems such as ext3 and ReiserFS will not work under Windows, but you can get them recognized with third-party drivers.
[05:51] <zoidberg> cynical: it hasnt changed coz i use it on windows machines
[05:51] <oskude> Krooga: afaik, windows doesnt "understand" any "linux" filesystems out of the box, so...
[05:51] <difeta> I'm trying to setup a unix printer here. I've set the paper type and size to US Letter, but when I attempt to print anything the printer complains about not having A4 paper. What else must I change so my system uses Us Letter paper and not A4?
[05:51] <stefg> plut: you'd need info what chipset and/or wlan hardware you have... entering the exact name and model together with 'ubuntu' in google might be a better idea than just sitting there and waiting for the spoonfeed
[05:51] <eyequeue> robertj, the issue is the reverse however
[05:51] <frying_fish> roberts: not sure about reiser yet, I know someone was working on a driver, but that seemed to die
[05:51] <gfxstyler> Krooga, i rather trust the ext3 driver than ntfs :) i didnt experience any corrupted data in ext3 on windows, but i have no experience with ntfs on linux because in forums i just heard nightmare stories
[05:52] <roberts> oops
[05:52] <plut> stefg
[05:52] <plut> i tried that
[05:52] <jbroome> i did install the ext2/3 driver on windowsxp and it saw my ext3 external drive fine
[05:52] <jbroome> read/write
[05:52] <plut> it seems the realtek 8101g chipset she is not supported
[05:52] <plut> which leaves me in a predicament
[05:54] <Phoul> has there been any updating issues?
[05:54] <Jack_Sparrow> plut: ndiswrapper can make most of those work
[05:55] <plut> yeah
[05:55] <plut> i looked in that list
[05:55] <plut> :|
[05:55] <plut> but it seems the pci bridge is the driver i need now
[05:55] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[05:56] <Teethy> I have a problem installing Ubuntu on my NTFS system - when i reach the partition creation area - it gives me an error FAILED TO CREATE ENOUGH SPACE FOR PARTITION - this happens for any size of partition i try to create  I have a 60GB drive with 19 GB and want to create 5 GB for ubuntu and 7 GB for swap, any help?
[05:56] <jbroome> 7GB for swap?
[05:56] <jbroome> holy crap
[05:56] <Teethy> yea
[05:56] <jbroome> wtf?
[05:56] <Teethy> ? too much?
[05:57] <Phoul> rotfl
[05:57] <jbroome> ummm yeah
[05:57] <Phoul> wow
[05:57] <Justy-> Teethy, 1 GB is enough  i tihnk
[05:57] <oskude> Teethy: you try to install ubuntu on ntfs ?
[05:57] <Teethy> sorry im officallit a n00b
[05:57] <Teethy> from live CD
[05:57] <Teethy> so its 1GB
[05:57] <jazwec> hi...please, could anybody help me with running sound blaster audigy 2 zs on ubuntu?
[05:57] <Justy-> i think so..
[05:58] <oskude> Teethy: ntfs is "only" for wintendo, so please use ext3 (or such) for ubuntu..
[05:58] <Justy-> lol @ wintendo
[05:58] <plut> Jack_Sparrow
[05:58] <rickympl> hello everyone, im having microphone probs, tryed this thread  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206145 and nothing, i can hear myself on the speakers but cant record using the mic
[05:58] <plut> any idea why pci cards wouldnt be detected?
[05:58] <Teethy> oskude - i understand that - but i have to reduce my NTFS to a 50GB size - so that the rezst can be used by ubuntu -
[05:59] <Justy-> yes
[05:59] <plut> even after ndiswrapper
[05:59] <plut> :|
[05:59] <eyequeue> rickympl, may i clarify?
[05:59] <tritium> plut: they should be.  Does lspci show the card?
[05:59] <plut> no
[05:59] <plut> :|
[05:59] <plut> but windows sees them
[05:59] <oskude> Teethy: i hope you unfragment your ntfs partition first...
[05:59] <ubunter> ?how to make shortcuts in xubuntu?
[05:59] <eyequeue> rickympl, you can hear yourself on speakers, so the mic is not the issue
[05:59] <plut> its an intel 865 board
[05:59] <Teethy> but when I try to resize i get the error -
[05:59] <Justy-> brb
[05:59] <znull> why my volume is not working in BPM ? any ideea ?
[05:59] <rickympl> eyequeue, ok
[06:00] <eyequeue> rickympl, you can't record though, so i'd say your record app needs to be pointed to the right mic device
[06:00] <dyn> hi
[06:00] <rickympl> lspci gives me this 0000:00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07)
[06:00] <dyn> please help me setting up mISDN and CAPI
[06:00] <Teethy> i did - defrag the drive but no luck even then - it gives me the error that FAILED TO CREATE ENOUGH SPACE FOR PARTITION
[06:00] <eyequeue> rickympl, meaning the solution lies in looking elsewhere :) namely the config for that recording app, whatever it may be that you use :)
[06:00] <dyn> I'm not sure where to start and the wiki is missing the information (TODO)
[06:00] <plut> erm
[06:00] <ubunter> who know how to make shortcuts in xubuntu?
[06:00] <plut> quick question
[06:01] <znull> why my volume is not working in BPM ? any ideea ?
[06:01] <rickympl> i tried arecord, audacity
[06:01] <plut> how do a force a new hardware detection?
[06:01] <oskude> Teethy: i *never* resize partitions, so dont have any ideas what could cause that error, sorry
[06:01] <Teethy> np
[06:01] <rickympl> how can i c if the card is on dev/dsp1 or wutever?
[06:01] <ladydoor> ubunter: ln -s /full/path/to/filename /full/path/to/shortcut/or/"./shortcutname"
[06:02] <ad_> having torturous trouble writing a cd - should it be so hard? can i change settings etc?
[06:02] <gfxstyler> ad_, burning cd's are easy with gnomebaker
[06:02] <oskude> Teethy: maybe you should resize under wintendo... oh wait, it cant ;)
[06:02] <gfxstyler> or k3b
[06:02] <gfxstyler> lol
[06:02] <gfxstyler> partition magic can, though
[06:02] <Teethy> LOL -
[06:02] <Sh4d0x> hi all Sh4d0x is in the house :p
[06:03] <bulldog_> Hello :)
[06:03] <ad_> gfxstyler: i'm using gnomebaker - easy is not what it is
[06:03] <gfxstyler> ladydoor, if the path has some spaces like /some thing/ then you have to use "" though, like "/some thing"
[06:03] <linux__alien> i ve an AMD 64 Bit Athlon processor and NVidia G-Force Card and 256 MB DDR RAM. I want to install Ubuntu . Which should i install 32 bit or 64 bit ? and can i install KDE also in Ubuntu or should i go in for Kubuntu ?
[06:03] <stefg> Teethy: so it might be a wise idea to make a backup image of your windows (with a software that can restore on different partition sizes) and repartiton the whole drive. Having a backup is recommended anyway even when you resize a partition. This is potentially dangerous
[06:03] <Teethy> gfxstyler - can i repartion and then let ubuntu live cd get hold of the unclaimed territory
[06:03] <ladydoor> gfxstyler: of course! or you can use bash's handy-dandy tab completion :-)
[06:03] <gfxstyler> Teethy, with partitionmagic? or with ubuntu's resizing tool?
[06:04] <Teethy> Partiont magic
[06:04] <gfxstyler> ladydoor, it inserts the "" automatically? w00t!
[06:04] <oskude> linux__alien: dunno about 64bit, ill wait a year... but you can install kubuntu allso under any ubuntu
[06:04] <gfxstyler> thanks for that hint!
[06:04] <ladydoor> gfxstyler: no, but it adds backslashes, which do the same thing but for just one letter
[06:04] <gfxstyler> linux__alien, 64bit may have some troubles with binary-only stuff
[06:04] <ladydoor> gfxstyler: *character, i mean
[06:04] <ad_> gnomebaker is crashing, freezing, not completing disk writes, failing to get access to the writer... - any ideas?
[06:04] <gfxstyler> ladydoor, oh, okay, but thanks anyway
[06:05] <ladydoor> gfxstyler: np
[06:05] <linux__alien> oskude, Oh so you advice me to install the 32 bit . Ok well i will install it but how can i install Kubuntu under any Ubuntu. I didnt understand that
[06:05] <gfxstyler> linux__alien, install the package "kubuntu-desktop"
[06:05] <linux__alien> gfxstyler, will there be any big differences between 32 bit and 64 bit ?
[06:05] <gfxstyler> linux__alien, i dont think so
[06:05] <plut> bah
[06:05] <plut> i'm installing 2003 server
[06:06] <plut> no hardware support for it
[06:06] <gfxstyler> linux__alien, no noticable speedup on my gf's 64bit laptop
[06:06] <ad_> why would gnomebaker stop working - it's driving me mad
[06:06] <oskude> linux__alien: theres a package named "kubuntu-desktop" in all ubuntu "derivates", so just install that if you want kubuntu too. the kubuntu distribution (the cd and such) just has kubuntu-desktop as default (where ubuntu has gnome-desktop as default) installed
[06:06] <rickympl> eyequeue, ive tried using /dev/dsp and dev/dsp1 on udacity and nothing
[06:06] <kara> well that didnt turn out so well SimonAnibal-Work :l .. error error . something about no  os found or smthn..
[06:06] <linux__alien> gfxstyler, Oh Thanks then i would go with 32 bit itself . Thanks :-) Will get back online after i install Ubuntu
[06:07] <zEE> hello =)
[06:07] <linux__alien> but do people install Kubuntu-Desktop in Ubuntu ? Do people really do it or people install Kubuntu?
[06:07] <linux__alien> which one is better
[06:07] <linux__alien> ?
[06:07] <rickympl> nevermind, seems like it just works now
[06:07] <rickympl> didnt really do anything
[06:07] <ad_> no one able to help with writing cds at all?
[06:08] <oskude> linux__alien: better is very realtive... in the end both are "same" ...
[06:08] <eyequeue> linux__alien, i tried it once, hated kubuntu, but was glad i still had all of gnome installed
[06:08] <stefg> ad_: gnomebaker is a piece of questionable software, to be honest. Consider k3b, even when using gnome
[06:08] <zEE> I'm lookin for a C/C++ IDE, what could be good?
[06:08] <eyequeue> linux__alien, technically you "have" kubuntu after that (you just also have regular ubuntu as well)
[06:08] <Samuli^> linux_alien, not much difference there. Installing kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu machine leaves you with LOTS of apps on the menus, so you need to clean them up a bit.
[06:08] <SimonAnibal-Work> helpmeeee, Hmmm. Well, for purposes of full disclosure, I've only ever gotten GRUB to dual-boot with Windows XP while Windows XP was already in (hd0,0) using exactly the lines I fed you earlier. I've never needed to map, and have no experience doing so. I may not be able to help you all the way with this one.
[06:09] <ad_> stefg: is k3b in uubuntu repos?
[06:09] <stefg> !info k3b
[06:09] <ubotu> k3b: A sophisticated KDE CD burning application. In component main, is optional. Version 0.12.14-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 3941 kB, installed size 8376 kB
[06:09] <oskude> ad_: but of course!
[06:09] <ad_> and it works ok on gnome without loads of setup and crashes?
[06:10] <elmargol> I need a new mail application :( any suggestions? I need imap support and gpg
[06:10] <oskude> ad_: yup. i use it too now and then
[06:10] <linux__alien> Oh Thanks then will install it . Thanks a lot
[06:10] <linux__alien> :--)
[06:10] <Sh4d0x> ad_: yes it does
[06:10] <elmargol> I'm using evolution atm.
[06:10] <ladydoor> elmargol: console or graphikal?
[06:10] <linux__alien> Will be back once i install Ubuntu
[06:10] <ad_> cool, i'll try it - thanks people
[06:10] <elmargol> ladydoor: I prefer gtk
[06:10] <ladydoor> elmargol: ah. no idea then
[06:10] <zOrK> Ubuntu "recognize" like 4 eth*, and when I try to use wireless it does not work, how can I "reset" all the configurations?, I tried deleting all att interfaces but it does not work too!
[06:10] <Skaag> is there a dns cache?
[06:10] <linux__alien> is Ubuntu better than FC 5?
[06:10] <gfxstyler> zEE, anjuta, codeblocks, gedit(no real ide), kdevelop
[06:10] <zOrK> what can I do to fix my wireless?
[06:10] <Skaag> and can it be flushed?
[06:10] <Jack_Sparrow> ad_: K3B works fine,, for ...  K3B permissions...   settings, setup, enter password and click ok
[06:10] <Skaag> I mean in ubuntu
[06:10] <gfxstyler> zEE, codeblocks editor is slow on linux, though
[06:11] <stefg> !wifi
[06:11] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:11] <Sh4d0x> ad_: just switch session, chose kde (making it default is your choice ... but it works fine)
[06:11] <gfxstyler> zEE, anjuta works best for me
[06:11] <linux__alien> i am a FC 5 user. I am thinking of moving to Ubuntu Dapper
[06:11] <zOrK> ok
[06:11] <zOrK> thakns
[06:11] <ladydoor> linux__alien: it depends what you're looking for
[06:11] <Skaag> I mean if I ping host.com and it remembers the ip... does it remember the ip?
[06:11] <helpmeeee> SimonAnibal-Work: too bad :l  i've googled for like 4 hrs and everyones telling me to reinstall..  but i believe there is a way to write new booting for vista.. it should be totally ok ..
[06:11] <linux__alien> ladydoor, I code. I develop applications i use it for browsing,listening to music and watching movies
[06:11] <jazwec> please, i need help with setting my sound card and speakers...could anybody help me?
[06:11] <bao_> i have a netgear pcmcia wlan card that has dual channels, but ubuntu only enables ath0. is there any way i can take advantage of the other channel?
[06:11] <linux__alien> This is what i do
[06:11] <eyequeue> install one kde app, you'll see the billion libs it pulls in :/
[06:12] <SimonAnibal-Work> helpmeeee, I've never even seen Vista IRL and interestingly enough, I'm not in a particular hurry to
[06:12] <Jack_Sparrow> helpmeeee:  You could try the super grub repair cd and see what os's it can find and setup for you
[06:12] <ziro01> hey
[06:12] <helpmeeee> where can i get super grub repair cd
[06:12] <oskude> eyequeue: yeah, you need 80% of 100gb for your pirated files ? ;)
[06:12] <SimonAnibal-Work> helpmeeee: hey Jack_Sparrow's suggestion sounds constructive
[06:12] <ladydoor> linux__alien: in that case many distributions will do. in ubuntu, you need to install build-essential to compile programs
[06:12] <ziro01> you tell me
[06:12] <Jack_Sparrow> helpmeeee: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html
[06:12] <cyberfr0g> hello
[06:12] <Sh4d0x> hi
[06:13] <Justy> !build-essential
[06:13] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:13] <Sh4d0x> Jack_Sparrow: ok lemme see
[06:13] <Jack_Sparrow> helpmeeee: It tries to locate and setup all valid OS's
[06:13] <linux__alien> ladydoor, So in that case Ubuntu will suit me right because i heard that Ubuntu is only for newbies
[06:13] <linux__alien> is that so ?
[06:13] <Utopiate> HA!
[06:13] <Jack_Sparrow> No
[06:13] <ladydoor> linux__alien: ubuntu has or can have all any normal linux development programs.
[06:13] <oskude> linux__alien: omg, ubuntu is only for newbies ?! :/
[06:13] <Justy> linux__alien, :(
[06:13] <Jack_Sparrow> linux__alien: Users of all levels use it
[06:13] <Utopiate> that's what I say linux_alien
[06:13] <linux__alien> Its my question. i dont mean it
[06:13] <ladydoor> linux__alien: it's not *just* for newbies--it's just by default kind of annoyingly user-friendly :-)
[06:13] <gfxstyler> oskude, or *cough* p*rn
[06:13] <cyberfr0g> tell me
[06:14] <Ace_NoOne> hey there
[06:14] <linux__alien> Oh Ok Thanks and sorry for that comment rather it was a question so let me install it . I am currently in FC5 so let me give Ubuntu a try
[06:14] <eyequeue> linux__alien, someone has perhaps been trolling you, very many in this channel are far from new
[06:14] <ladydoor> linux__alien: whatever you think!
[06:14] <gfxstyler> btw: you guys write so much, once you dont pay attention for one minute you have problems following
[06:15] <Sh4d0x> Jack_Sparrow: what's wrong with your grub, why did you try to install such a "super grub"?
[06:15] <stefg> linux__alien: why not see it yourself :-) you'll love apt, if you only know rpm, and the degree in stupidness of bugs is far less in ubuntu than in fc :-)
[06:15] <linux__alien> cya all Thanks for your help. Let me install that
[06:15] <linux__alien> Oh Ok Thanks i am gonna install the 32 bit edition right away
[06:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Sh4d0x: Nothing is wrong withmy grub setup...
[06:15] <linux__alien> Thanks
[06:15] <Ace_NoOne> I have problems running the (K)Ubuntu live CD(s); everything's incredibly slow (and I mean REALLY slow)! However, I guess that's not normal, as the Knoppix live CD runs a lot faster - is it possible that Ubuntu does not use the hard drive as temporary RAM extension?
[06:15] <dmd> How do I get my ethernet internet connection to start on boot?
[06:16] <Ace_NoOne> Also, I have 128 MB RAM, but when I go to the boot menu's advanced options, it says something like RAM_DISK_SIZE=10248578 - is that correct?
[06:16] <stefg> Ace_NoOne: what Hardware, how much RAM?
[06:16] <gfxstyler> Ace_NoOne, maybe it uses no dma
[06:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Sh4d0x: Super Grub Repair is a decent tool when a user is having problems with multiple drives and OS's and getting their grub menu.lst right
[06:16] <pradeep> dmd, how do you connect?
[06:16] <SimonAnibal-Work> Ace_NoOne: Seeing as I've run the Ubuntu live CD on a computer without a hard drive I'd say it's fair to say it doesn't use the hard drive
[06:16] <Sh4d0x> Jack_Sparrow: ow I C
[06:16] <Ace_NoOne> stefg: 128 RAM, 600 Mhz CPU
[06:16] <stefg> Ace_NoOne: that's simply not enough
[06:16] <oskude> Ace_NoOne: the "alternate cd" has the good old textmode installer that works faster and on low mem...
[06:17] <Gino> hey guys, i just installed ubuntu 5.10, and am running a live disc for now
[06:17] <Gino> i have a question
[06:17] <stefg> Ace_NoOne: consider xubuntu, and install from the 'alternate-CD'
[06:17] <Sh4d0x> Gino: shoot
[06:17] <Ace_NoOne> Oh ok, then I'll simply use the alternate CD - that will install the very same Ubuntu as the other one though, right?
[06:17] <Gino> how can i make a backup of my os
[06:17] <dmd> pradeep: atm i have to go into system -> admin -> network choose my ethernet card then connect
[06:17] <oskude> Gino: ubuntu you know 5.10 is not the actual version ?
[06:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Ace_NoOne: You are trying to use kubuntu on 128 system?
[06:17] <Ace_NoOne> yes - that too low?
[06:18] <stefg> Ace_NoOne: but gnome is too heavy for that... you need something lighter. Use xubuntu
[06:18] <Sh4d0x> Gino: why would you like to backup your os o.O
[06:18] <Gino> yes i do realize, but i read reviews around that 5.10 is the most stable with my laptop
[06:18] <Gino> Dell Inspiron 6000
[06:18] <Ace_NoOne> Okay, I actually got Xubuntu lying around somewhere
[06:18] <Jack_Sparrow> 256 is minimum recommended
[06:18] <zOrK> even dhcp nor wireless work
[06:18] <zOrK> !!
[06:18] <Utopiate> I have a few questions about performance using 6.06 LTS
[06:18] <oskude> Gino: i would test myself, before believing suchs sayings...
[06:18] <mdasilva_> can xgl and compiz be installed from the online repositories?
[06:18] <Gino> i made wireless and ethernet work fairly easily, and as we speak im on the live disc
[06:18] <mdasilva_> or does it take much manual configuration?
[06:18] <Tokenbad> is there a way to fix tar.gz files?
[06:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Ace_NoOne: X would be a better choice with 128 not U or K
[06:19] <zOrK> you're a lucky guy then
[06:19] <Ace_NoOne> using another window manager (i.e. Xfce over KDE) won't change anything in terms of functionality, right? I can still use OpenOffice and such?
[06:19] <pradeep> dmd ... you have multiple ethernet cards?
[06:19] <Sh4d0x> Gino: why don't you use a dualboot? so you don't have to backup your os
[06:19] <dmd> pradeep: 2
[06:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !xgl
[06:19] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:19] <Ace_NoOne> btw: this would be my first Lunux install, if you couldn't tell so far...
[06:19] <Gino> my hardrive is extremely full, i need a fresh start with all my documents
[06:19] <oskude> Tokenbad: how is it broken ? how should a program know that ? try downloading again, maybe with "wget"
[06:19] <stefg> Ace_NoOne: of course, but OOo 2 will crawl, as it's a memory hog
[06:20] <Ace_NoOne> yeah, I know :/
[06:20] <ladydoor> Ace_NoOne: well, you might check out abiword and gnumeric--they're really good programs and can both read m$ & oo.o programs
[06:20] <Gino> and i no longer use the comp for any gaming, which is why i decided to go for linux
[06:20] <ladydoor> Ace_NoOne: and they're faster
[06:20] <oskude> Tokenbad: and check the md5sum of that file (if available)
[06:20] <Ace_NoOne> will do - thanks a lot, guys!
[06:20] <dmd> pradeep: it did autoconnect before i messed with the sysv config tool to turn off bluetooth etc.
[06:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Gino: You gave up Wintendo... good for you
[06:20] <Sh4d0x> Gino: good choice, can't you place your data on a external disk, or memory stick or ...
[06:20] <Gino> i see that even though im running from a CD, it almost feels like its more responsive then normal Windows XP
[06:21] <Gino> which is why i want to have a single main Ubuntu boot
[06:21] <Gino> no windows
[06:21] <Utopiate> So when I switch network profiles using the network util under Administration (gnome-network-manager) it takes FOREVER to make any changes... is it the same all round?
[06:21] <Gino> but, my Dell never came with my Windows CD, nor did it come with the built in Backup utility
[06:21] <dmd> is there a daemon/ sysv thing which does the job of autoconnecting my eth internet?
[06:21] <Gino> there is some Symantec thing built in the boot
[06:21] <Gino> lol
[06:21] <deadlyallance442> does anybody know of a irc channel for mini-itx/via C3/iMedia MythTV Linux
[06:22] <sudharsh> hi..vcd performance using mplayer or xine or vlc is very poor. When i expand to fullscreen i get pixelations and slow frame rates. cpu usage shoots up. same problem occurs in all the players. which package do i have to download
[06:22] <sorush20> is ubuntuguide.org sources right?
[06:22] <stefg> Gino: so if you dedicate a complete drive to ubuntu there's a lot you can gain by doing the partitioning right... in terms of speed and convinience
[06:22] <Sh4d0x> lol @ ladydoor
[06:23] <pradeep> dmd : sorry .. i'll see if i can help
[06:23] <Utopiate> The letter for today is "S"...
[06:23] <oskude> sudharsh: is your cpu fast enough ? what video drivers do you use ?
[06:23] <Gino> this thing feels like theres no lag lol
[06:24] <Sh4d0x> Utopiate: yes!!!! S from Sh4d0x   rofl!! :D
[06:24] <eyequeue> Gino, my wireless was sensed by the installer, but wired should be automatically asked
[06:24] <pradeep> dmd did you try re-enabling whatever you disabled thru sysv?
[06:24] <sudharsh> oskude, the problem doesnt occur with gentoo and other distros..i have an amd 2000+ xp..imo thats fast enough
[06:24] <Ace_NoOne> oh, another newbie question: I have two HDDs in my PC - can I install Linux on the secondary drive or does it have to be the primary one?
[06:24] <Gino> i had to actually manually configure both connections, although the hardware was detected in both cases
[06:24] <eyequeue> Gino, and then configured with dgcp or static (at least from the alternate cd)
[06:24] <Utopiate> So when I switch network profiles using the network util under Administration (gnome-network-manager) it takes FOREVER to make any changes... is it the same all round?
[06:24] <Gino> which is why i want to stick with 5.10
[06:25] <oskude> sudharsh: hmm... what video driver did you use under gentoo ? (and what no?)
[06:25] <dmd> pradeep: i turned a lot of stuff off and I didn't make a backup of my config :(
[06:25] <oskude>  sudharsh *now
[06:25] <ladydoor> !repeat
[06:25] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:25] <zaggynl> anyone knows of an easy program for VOIP like VoipBuster?
[06:25] <clmd> weee :D
[06:25] <clmd> texting 1 2 1 2
[06:26] <zaggynl> clmd, you fail
[06:26] <sudharsh> oskude, i have a damned sis 650..will check it up and report.....now what was the command to configure X.? :)
[06:26] <Utopiate> sorry... I pushed "up" for my lat typed thingy... pushed it too many times... ;-)
[06:26] <ryctor> I cant find the 2.6 kernel source, how to get it?
[06:26] <stefg> !info linux-source
[06:26] <ubotu> linux-source: Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.25 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[06:27] <dmd> sudharsh: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver , or something
[06:27] <oskude> sudharsh: ah, a sis... hmm, do they have hardware acceleration ? but if it worked under gentoo, hmm... "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:27] <dmd> thats the one!
[06:27] <beemonk> could someone help me out with installing xp on a spare part of my HD's....
[06:28] <oskude> beemonk: no
[06:28] <stefg> !windows
[06:28] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[06:28] <sudharsh> oskude, forget direct rendering..i have been with this card for two years and hardware accel..btw breezy worked like a dream..
[06:28] <ryctor> thanks
[06:28] <abhinay> my friend is not able to connect to internet,LAN is not detected, i think  LAN driver is needed , my friend has RTL8139D LAN card & sify broadband , any suggestions ?
[06:29] <beemonk> sorry
[06:29] <oskude> sudharsh: hmm... i would start to look what video driver you used where it worked... then maybe (but unlikely) check if cdrom (if you read from cd) has dma on.. hmm...
[06:29] <pradeep> dmd: do you just select the ethernet card or select card then issue a command to connect?
[06:30] <dmd> pradeep: no command needed, select card and click connect
[06:30] <sudharsh> oskude, dma is on..jus checked..i had the same video drivers when it worked too..! kinda weird..maybe its some libraries i am missin
[06:30] <dmd> I think my /etc/network/interfaces is wrong
[06:30] <voraistos> hello huys. I wanted to know how to install a different GL theme for gnome? (using aiglX) By the way if there is someplace where i can find info about what GTK 1 and 2 , compiz and metacity exactly are, that would help;) cheers
[06:30] <jelly> How do I browse nfs shares in nautilus?
[06:31] <eyequeue> !xgl > voraistos
[06:31] <eyequeue> voraistos, see  that channel ubotu mentioned
[06:31] <voraistos> yeah; no problem, except that i am not using XGL
[06:31] <dmd> does xchat not feature one to one chat?
[06:31] <oskude> sudharsh: hmm... i never played vcd's... but that sound wierd... vcd was mpeg-1 ?
[06:31] <eyequeue> jelly, what are nfs shares?
[06:32] <eyequeue> dmd, /msg nick foo
[06:32] <jcml_uk> voraistos: ignore gtk1 - it's old.  gtk2 (its replacement) is a widget library (flames > /dev/null).  Metacity's a window manager.  You'll find google's quite useful on all of those.  compiz is a window manager for swishy pertyness, I think ...
[06:32] <eyequeue> dmd, /query nick   if longer, but watch the bot
[06:32] <eyequeue> !msg
[06:32] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[06:33] <dmd> eyequeue- do you mind being my pm guinea pig for a sec?
[06:33] <eyequeue> jelly, i run nfs myself btw, heh
[06:33] <eyequeue> dmb, sure :)
[06:33] <PseudoPlacebo> Anyone here play drums, with double-bass pedal?
[06:33] <ladydoor> PseudoPlacebo: go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:34] <Gino> guys, how do I make a backup of my Windows OS, with a Dell Laptop which has no backup CD whatsoever, or no backup utility
[06:34] <dmd> pseudo: no double pedal yet, why you ask here?
[06:34] <eyequeue> PseudoPlacebo, i think you win the award for most surprising topic question today ;-)
[06:34] <ladydoor> lol
[06:34] <PseudoPlacebo> Yeah.
[06:34] <PseudoPlacebo> How do I get root on my bass pedal?
[06:34] <oskude> Gino: ask dell or ms
[06:34] <eyequeue> PseudoPlacebo, #ubuntu-offtopic though
[06:35] <voraistos> jcml_uk: thanks mate. I was wondering, how can i relook old GTK 1 apps without changing all my system's theme (which i prefer to be GTK2). they also talk about GTK engines. cant get it. and yes i googled, but couldnt understand. that why i was asking around here ;)
[06:35] <PseudoPlacebo> It was an /amsg
[06:35] <eyequeue> PseudoPlacebo, or even ##offtopic
[06:35] <Gino> i need it incase Ubuntu ever fails me, lol, and cause im a newb
[06:35] <dmd> pseudo: you're too stoned for me right now!
[06:35] <Jack_Sparrow> abhinay: HAs he tried to ping a webist?
[06:35] <Dell-B130> stoned?
[06:35] <Dell-B130> what?
[06:35] <Dell-B130> where?
[06:36] <Gino> yo Dell guy
[06:36] <dmd> he wants root on his bass drum pedal??
[06:36] <oskude> Gino: ubuntu is not "allowed" to use microsoft patents!
[06:36] <Zuu> ohh damn crist wooooh theres a lot of ppl in here!
[06:36] <Gino> did your system come with a backup OS
[06:36] <Gino> lol
[06:36] <henzo> hello
[06:36] <helpmeeee> SimonAnibal-Work:  which program i should use to write image to dvd.. so it also would work
[06:36] <eyequeue> i wonder if one could dd the ms partition off to some monster file for later use?
[06:37] <voraistos> Gino: u want Windows to save your life in case Ubuntu crashes? You are... fun.
[06:37] <eyequeue> optimal would be to contact the seller and get the right media
[06:37] <Gino> lmfaooooooooo :P:P
[06:37] <Zuu> can i install ubuntu without the need for actually burning a physical CD ?
[06:37] <dmd> pseudo: for bass drum 'root' practice paradiddles with your feet to a metronome, doubling and halving speed
[06:37] <oskude> helpmeeee: the same way you got the image from the dvd...
[06:37] <eyequeue> Zuu, not really, but possibly :)
[06:38] <voraistos> Zuu: do u have a 1GB usb key ?
[06:38] <bouter> hi
[06:38] <helpmeeee> i downloaded it.. now i shall use my almighty ubuntu to download the image to disk?
[06:38] <PseudoPlacebo> I want a 1GB USB key.
[06:38] <Gino> no, windows has ruined my life, but im making a backup of it incase i am not able to fully install Ubuntu
[06:38] <bouter> can anyone help with my problem?
[06:38] <helpmeeee> :D
[06:38] <Zuu> voraistos, well no.. so lets just say i have no other media than my harddrive
[06:38] <Gino> cause now im runinng on a Live Disc
[06:38] <Gino> and love it
[06:38] <eyequeue> helpmeeee, not from a live cd i hope
[06:38] <sorush20> my network speed is not good what do I do  ?
[06:38] <Zuu> i have suse and windows on it allready, and the ubuntu .iso
[06:38] <Gino> so, i want to have a single boot, Ubuntu system
[06:38] <oskude> helpmeeee: well... rtfm where you downloaded the dvd image...
[06:38] <bouter> I have VMware installed on dapper drake  I installed windows office  etc etc    so it worked well
[06:38] <Zuu> i want to replace suse with ubuntu :P
[06:39] <sorush20> I keep getting this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24257
[06:39] <voraistos> Zuu: i think the best way is just to get a damn CD. the shipit thing hould be able to send one or more for free
[06:39] <helpmeeee> a guy from this chatroom gave me the .iso file.. now i need to get a dvd burner to burn it
[06:39] <oskude> helpmeeee: but the normal cd/dvd burning tools have option to burn cd/dvd image...
[06:39] <eyequeue> helpmeeee, live needs the cd in to run apps, but burning requires that cd out, to have a target
[06:39] <bouter> but now  everytime I want to open VMware server    the application starts     I see that in my windows list on the panel
[06:39] <Zuu> voraistos, i have no empty CD's :(
[06:39] <helpmeeee> i have installed ubuntu
[06:39] <helpmeeee> i just need a name
[06:40] <bouter> and then that is gone    but VMware doesn' t start
[06:40] <helpmeeee> for a dvd burner
[06:40] <sudharsh> oskude, i noticed something dvds and mpegs plays fine..only vcds givin me trouble
[06:40] <Gino> ok guys, one other question, when i burn the disc image of the OS, do i burn it as a boot CD
[06:40] <voraistos> Zuu: i mean, they send u a Ubuntu instal CD at your home in your mailbox for free
[06:40] <Angeltronix> hi guys, where i can get info about installing xgl+compiz on KDE (kubuntu)?
[06:40] <eyequeue> helpmeeee, cdrecord, gnomebaker, k3b,    console, gnome, kde
[06:40] <helpmeeee> thanks
[06:40] <bouter> !troubleshooting VMware
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troubleshooting VMware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <Zuu> voraistos, i dont really wanna wait for such CD
[06:40] <oskude> helpmeeee: have you tried right click on the image (iso) file, and select "burn" ?
[06:40] <vorbote> helpmeeee, if you are already using some linux, you may use growisfs. Read the manual page, it is highly recommended (better than copy and pasting whatever a yahoo like myself may tell you  in an IRC channel). Open a terminal and type "man growisfs"
[06:40] <backz> hi, can I scan a website and extract only the text from it?
[06:40] <Zuu> i wanted to install ubuntu right now :)
[06:40] <backz> using wget?
[06:40] <helpmeeee> there is no such option :\
[06:40] <oskude> sudharsh: and other vcd players play that cd fine ?
[06:41] <Zuu> tomorrow, i might dont want to no more
[06:41] <bouter> noone?
[06:41] <oskude> helpmeeee: do you have a cd/dvd burner ?
[06:41] <Zuu> nor the day after that and so on :P
[06:41] <helpmeeee> yes
[06:41] <sudharsh> oskude, yes..
[06:41] <Agrajag> bouter: run it from a terminal and tell what it says
[06:41] <oskude> sudharsh: hmm...
[06:41] <helpmeeee> i need software ;)
[06:41] <flicovent> Can any one help setting up a G3 with ubuntu?
[06:41] <oskude> helpmeeee: k3b is the mightiest burn program i know...
[06:41] <Zuu> does ubuntu have better hardware support than Suse ?
[06:41] <helpmeeee> k i try it
[06:42] <voraistos> Zuu: problem is you need to boot the system... without rally booting it. just try to get an empty hard drive or partition, uncompressthe CD image on it and boot from it. just like the Win98 method
[06:42] <Sh4d0x> oskude: amen to that
[06:42] <oskude> Zuu: i doubt anyone has compared that...
[06:42] <deadlyallance382> is there a genral linux channel ?
[06:42] <Zuu> took me just around 5 months to get suse working, and i just wanna get a sense of how long it would take to make it work with ubuntu
[06:43] <Angeltronix> hi guys, where i can get info about installing xgl+compiz on KDE (kubuntu)?
[06:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Zuu: That is why they made the livecd...
[06:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !xgl
[06:43] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:43] <oskude> Zuu: try here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:43] <Zuu> voraistos, so it is possible to get it booted and install on the same drive as the install files ?
[06:43] <voraistos> Zuu: i am thinking about something nice, but i need to check with the guys ;)
[06:43] <flicovent> I can't locate device tree trunk  screen just goes white and three lines of syntax appear.
[06:44] <untung> hi guys,  do you know how to setup dv camera in ubuntu?
[06:44] <Gino> im tired of live CD, now i want the real OS, how do i do it, if i want a single boot system (NO WINDOWS)
[06:44] <Zuu> voraistos, sweet :)
[06:44] <sudharsh> oskude, now i tried another movie..it worked fine....but three vcds that was working 3 hours back in gentoo aint doing so in dapper...
[06:44] <Angeltronix> thanx!!!
[06:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Zuu: IS there a reason you dont want or cant boot the livecd?
[06:44] <untung> I have a dv camera connected to a firewire card
[06:44] <Xnix> anyone know a good app to change my wallpaper every so often
[06:44] <Xnix> automatically
[06:44] <oskude> sudharsh: hmm, and they are standard vcd ? (not divx or so)
[06:44] <Zuu> Jack_Sparrow, what are you talking about ?
[06:45] <kyja> It can boot.... it can install...... it can fullfill long boring nights and lonely weekends its............ubuntu
[06:45] <voraistos> OK guys, here is what we wanna do: there is a ubuntu.iso file on a linux partition, we want to boot from grub/lilo whatever from it; I mean mount the image in the boot loader. is that possible?
[06:45] <a_l_e> a fast question: is there a way to know which are the last packages installed?
[06:45] <sudharsh> oskude, yup standard ones..
[06:45] <kyja> voraistos, you dont want to burn then live boot the cd?
[06:45] <Sh4d0x> Xnix: maybe you want to use kde (kubuntu) it has a default option exactly what you want
[06:45] <eyequeue> Xnix, sorry, chuckling here at the possiblity of someone putting pron on your desktop.
[06:45] <oskude> sudharsh: have you looked google/ubuntuforums if someone had these problems too ?
[06:45] <Xnix> lol
[06:46] <bouter> Agrajag: hang on
[06:46] <voraistos> kyja: no
[06:46] <Xnix> Sh4d0x no i definitely dont want to run kde
[06:46] <helpmeeee> k3b did it
[06:46] <helpmeeee> thanks dudes
[06:46] <voraistos> kyja: its for Zuu
[06:46] <Zuu> =)
[06:46] <Blob> I've seen that the noapic option at boot may resolve an issue I'm having with a message: MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC
[06:46] <kyja> variant, it is fully functional os running off cd?
[06:46] <kyja> oh
[06:46] <flicovent> Please, can anyone help getting Ubuntu running on a G3? I am currently using it on a intel box and it worked fine but isn't with the g3.
[06:46] <Xnix> but can i use the kde root window setting proogram maybe Sh4d0x ?
[06:46] <Blob> but what else does noapic do?
[06:46] <kyja> emulation?
[06:47] <Xnix> hmmm
[06:47] <barney> OK Folks. In a bit of a situation here. Lots of coursework to do for tomorow, my windows got borked this morning, and I am going to reinstall dapper (broken also). I need to know how to export a list of currently installed packages, fast!
[06:47] <clmd> what is the path to irssi ?
[06:47] <clmd> i got ubuntu
[06:47] <Xnix> wallpaper-tray may do the trick
[06:47] <a_l_e> flicovent: does it help if i know how to get it to work on a g4?
[06:47] <Jack_Sparrow> flicovent: Did you use the mac version? Had to ask
[06:47] <flicovent> Yes. I did.
[06:47] <clmd> some one who can help me?
[06:47] <Dragonfire1> I'm very impressed with ubuntu thanks
[06:47] <flicovent> G4 might help, tried the support forum but to no availe so far thogh.
[06:47] <Sh4d0x> Xnix: don't think so although I have no experience by using kde root window in gnome
[06:47] <voraistos> kyja: yes. in the boot oader
[06:47] <voraistos> loader*
[06:47] <clmd> helo :D
[06:47] <Jack_Sparrow> barney:  Use Terminal type dpkg --get-selections > myprog.txt
[06:48] <barney> Jack_Sparrow, I think I love you!
[06:48] <oskude> flicovent: i wonder if someone even continues to develope ubuntu ppc...
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[06:48] <Kragnerac> Hello, when I mount my Windows partition onto Ubuntu, it successfully does, but the name shows some strange characters, like "H } (A Square with '0010')". Can anyone help?
[06:48] <flicovent> Nothing in open firmware seems to work either.
[06:48] <eyequeue> barney, and ... you love me, ... lol
[06:48] <Xnix> Sh4d0x well it will probably work if i knew the name of the app, unless it is handled by konqueror, which it might be
[06:48] <steveire> Hey, is there a way to install a minimal (text) ubuntu without installing 'server' I think i saw a link to a mini.iso, but I don't know what it's for.
[06:49] <barney> eyequeue, did you help? I apologise! I can't scroll up in this crappy IRC client tho, haha.
[06:49] <barney> Anyway, tata everyone <3
[06:49] <Sh4d0x> Xnix: don't know the name, it's a default option under the setting "change background" in kubuntu
[06:49] <eyequeue> barney, no, i chuckled at the image of barney singing i love you to Jack_Sparrow :)
[06:50] <Xnix> Sh4d0x kk thx
[06:50] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[06:50] <a_l_e> flicovent: please put my name on your replies if you want me to notice them :-)
[06:50] <kyja> voraistos, I can't fathom the need to that. sorry I came into this conversation late. It runs of the cd as full os. it can be installed on a partition. and I guess if you used that emulator that I cant remember the name of you could use it that way.
[06:50] <flicovent> oskude: lol, I hope so, although it is 1998 hardware that I am working with.
[06:50] <kyja> variant, I would be suprized if grub or lio could boot of an iso image
[06:50] <Sh4d0x> Xnix: yw
[06:51] <Kragnerac> Anyone? :(
[06:51] <flicovent> a_l_e: G4 might help, tried the support forum but to no avail so far though.
[06:51] <a_l_e> flicovent: yes, i've read this now... but what is your problem?
[06:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Kragnerac: How did you mount it?
[06:51] <oskude> flicovent: i mean, now that apple doesnt use ppc anymore, will there be any new machines (for normal people) that uses ppc ?
[06:51] <eyequeue> how can there be unregistered in here, with the options set in the channel?  odd
[06:51] <steveire> no one?
[06:51] <a_l_e> oskude: yes, apple is not the only producer of ppc machines!
[06:51] <Kragnerac> Jack_Sparrow: "sudo mount /dev/hda1"
[06:52] <voraistos> kyja: hmmm the point is not to emulate ubuntu under another OS, but to boot from a CD IMAGE with GRUB
[06:52] <kyja> OH !!!
[06:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Kragnerac: Can you post your fstab to the pastebin and not into the channel
[06:52] <voraistos> kyja: yeah thats a different challenge. no Vmware here ;)
[06:52] <deadlyallance382> is there a genral linux channel ?
[06:52] <oskude> a_l_e: ok
[06:52] <dmd> OK- I think I know now why I'm not getting auto-connected to the net on boot, its because I turned off the loopback daemon. Could someone please tell me what runlevels I need to activate it on?
[06:52] <kyja> LIKE HIS pc does not boot up on cd drive so he needs grub to pick it
[06:52] <Pierre> re
[06:53] <bouter> Agrajag: thanx for the information   doing that I knew what was the problem
[06:53] <eyequeue> deadlyallance382, yes, ##linux i believe
[06:53] <Pierre> "bash: /usr/bin/vim: Permission denied"  and /etc/alternatives/vim broken, sounds familiar to anyone? solution?
[06:53] <deadlyallance382> thank you
[06:53] <a_l_e> oskude: ibm and pegasos among others (but it's true, it's not a big market!)
[06:53] <flicovent> a_l_e: the problem is that even if i boot holding the c key, it just goes to a white screen with a command prompt.
[06:53] <voraistos> Zuu: what kind of bootloader do you have?
[06:53] <eyequeue> Pierre, no, but try sudo update-alternatives --config vim
[06:53] <Zuu> voraistos, Grub :)
[06:53] <kyja> voraistos, I think you could tell grub something like "mount /dev/cda/kernelblabla
[06:54] <kyja> something like that
[06:54] <a_l_e> flicovent: and does mac work on that machine?
[06:54] <Samuli^> dmd, I'd think level 2 and 1 if you want networking on single-user mode.
[06:54] <Zuu> voraistos, im currently asking in #grub :P
[06:54] <ncalpunker> Does ubuntu have an update mechanism, like RedHat's up2date?
[06:54] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[06:54] <eyequeue> ncalpunker, no idea what that is, but yes
[06:54] <voraistos> kyja: not sure. GRUB reads things strangely, but yeah #grub is a good idea
[06:54] <dmd> samuli: not 0 too?
[06:54] <Zuu> Not many there tho :/
[06:54] <Marlun> Is there some program I can install on my server which keeps track of how much it send and retrieve on the network (and maybe more usefull info)?
[06:54] <Kragnerac> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24260
[06:54] <eyequeue> ncalpunker, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, if you want to do it manually now
[06:55] <Blob> I've seen that the noapic option at boot may resolve an issue I'm having with a message: MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC
[06:55] <H_ammer> hi!
[06:55] <Blob> but what else does noapic do?
[06:55] <Tokenbad> hmm...have downloaded this same tar.gz file like 3 times....and everytime I try to uncompress it...get an error
[06:55] <Sh4d0x> Zuu: what's wrong with your grub?
[06:55] <Tokenbad> and have tried from different locations
[06:55] <ncalpunker> eyequeue: Ok, so it uses apt-get.
[06:55] <kyja> Zuu, do you have grub already?
[06:55] <flicovent> a_l_e: yes, the prompt is after the "welcome dapper" screen.
[06:55] <Zuu> Sh4d0x, what makes you thing that something is wrong with it :)
[06:55] <eyequeue> ncalpunker, everything does :)
[06:55] <Samuli^> dmd, Really I don't know, what's the harm loading it on 0 though?
[06:55] <voraistos> kyja: she does
[06:55] <Pierre> eyequeue, http://phpfi.com/155536
[06:55] <kyja> k
[06:55] <Zuu> kyja, sure
[06:55] <Sh4d0x> Zuu: dunno cuz you are trying to ask questions in #grub :p:d
[06:55] <voraistos> Zuu: she/he/it:whatever
[06:55] <ncalpunker> eyequeue: Is there a way to update everything?
[06:55] <dmd> samuli: true, but
[06:55] <eyequeue> ncalpunker, system > adminsitration > update manager also exists, for the gui people
[06:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Kragnerac: Your windows is on a fat and not ntfs?
[06:56] <a_l_e> flicovent: so, the c key works or not?
[06:56] <ncalpunker> eyequeue: Cool, thanks.
[06:56] <Kragnerac> Yes. It is on a FAT32 partition.
[06:56] <Zuu> Sh4d0x, yes.. could be neat if grub could boot from .iso image ^^
[06:56] <a_l_e> flicovent: that is: when you press the c key does it boot on the cdrom?
[06:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Kragnerac: Is it a ntfs that was converted to fat?
[06:56] <g00lan> can you changes a windows size true a command in the terminal??
[06:56] <flicovent> a_l_e: yes, it must do to have the ubuntu screen, I believe but it must be cutting out or something.
[06:56] <eyequeue> ncalpunker, there are apps, automatically enabled i believ, that will check every day or two, congurable, in the background and notify you on the gnome panel
[06:57] <Zuu> voraistos, just have the cooliest ideas :D
[06:57] <Sh4d0x> Zuu: true that would be nice :d
[06:57] <kyja> Zuu, you could try that then. I dont know. about iso file but a finnished cd grub could bake boot if you know what grub calls the cd as a device and know the path to the kernal
[06:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Kragnerac: Does your windows boot ok?
[06:57] <Kragnerac> Hmm. Let me check.
[06:57] <Zuu> kyja, you seem not to understand the poiint here
[06:57] <[WC] Guard> Hello, I set an icon package, but the only icon that wont change is the Ubuntu icon menu, how do I change it??
[06:57] <Zuu> the point is NOT TO HAVE A CD
[06:57] <voraistos> Zuu, he didnt, now he does i think
[06:57] <kyja> Zuu, perhaps not. you want it to boot the iso image file
[06:58] <ladydoor> !shout
[06:58] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:58] <ladydoor> !attitude
[06:58] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:58] <voraistos> Zuu: yes he does understand
[06:58] <kyja> gosh.
[06:58] <a_l_e> flicovent: sorry, you're giving me too few and too general informations. if you don't exactly describe what's happening there, we/I can't guess!
[06:58] <Sh4d0x> lol ladydoor
[06:58] <Zuu> kyja, yeah.. i think, if it would work :)
[06:58] <flicovent> a_l_e: wondered if it's a dodgy disk but not sure how to check or anything.
[06:58] <kyja> hmm I will do a small bit of research
[06:58] <a_l_e> flicovent: ... and now i have to leave an prepare the dinner.
[06:58] <xorl> i've seen people boot that with grub.
[06:59] <xorl> Just point the iso to grub correctly and it loaded it just fine.
[06:59] <a_l_e> flicovent: the simpliest way is to download again the iso... or to burn a new cd... 1/2 hour if you have some sort of DSL
[06:59] <eyequeue> Pierre, what does    sudo update-alternatives --auto  do for you?
[06:59] <flicovent> a_l_e: thankyou all the same, :) :-/
[06:59] <Pierre> eyequeue, permission denied, cannot remove vim.dpkg.tmp
[06:59] <H_ammer> hi, i'm new here, and i have a fast question: why i cannot use iwspy with my acx based wireless card?
[06:59] <voraistos> kyja: is there anybody on #grub ?
[06:59] <kyja> vurtual pc can boot iso images.
[06:59] <eyequeue> Pierre, what does    *sudo* update-alternatives --auto  do for you?
[07:00] <voraistos> kyja: yes but its virtual, isnt it ?
[07:00] <Pierre> eyequeue, I used sudo, they are RO
[07:00] <eyequeue> Pierre, sudo should take away permission errors
[07:00] <flicovent> a_l_e: OK, will try that.
[07:00] <Zuu> voraistos, yep 27 dudes including me :)
[07:00] <kyja> yup thats the downside. you need to already be in an os
[07:00] <NaMcO^> hi to all
[07:00] <jazwec> hi..please could anybody help me with running sound blaster audigy 2 zs?
[07:00] <eyequeue> Pierre, okay, this should rerun the postinst script, as root:  "sudo apt-get --reinstall install vim"
[07:01] <Pierre> eyequeue, "update-alternatives: unable to remove /etc/alternatives/vim.dpkg-tmp: Operation not permitte" to be exact
[07:01] <Pierre> eyequeue, I tried that already, no success
[07:01] <eyequeue> Pierre, Pierre ls -l /etc/alternatives/vim.dpkg*  just tell me the suffixes please
[07:02] <Pierre> eyequeue, it worked out of the box until a few mins ago. X crashed and I reboot
[07:02] <eyequeue> Pierre, is there an old?
[07:02] <Pierre> eyequeue, no such file
[07:02] <eyequeue> Pierre, funny, it had a dpkg-tmp a moment ago
[07:03] <eyequeue> Pierre, okay, let's do surgery manually :/
[07:03] <Pierre> eyequeue, it says that it does not have the permission to remove it, not that it exists :)
[07:03] <[WC] Guard> how do we have the configuration editor in gnome?
[07:03] <laddercoins> Um, to all it may concern, Filcovent is talking about my G3. It's just that I couldn't get on IRC, but now I can I may be able to be more specific about the problem.
[07:03] <eyequeue> Pierre, ls /usr/bin/vim*, to get the true name first    is it vim-basic?
[07:04] <ladydoor> [WC] Guard: you mean gconf-editor?
[07:04] <[WC] Guard> yes
[07:04] <mdasilva_> whats the command to reselect apt mirrors?
[07:04] <Pierre> eyequeue, vim.basic works
[07:04] <cpk2> mdasilva_: you edit them into sources.list
[07:04] <[WC] Guard> ladydoor: yes
[07:05] <laddercoins> a_l_e:Filcovent is talking about my G3. It's just that I couldn't get on IRC, but now I can I may be able to be more specific about the problem.
[07:05] <eyequeue> Pierre, sudo rm /etc/alternatives/vim && ln -s /usr/bin/vim.basic /etc/alternatives/vim
[07:05] <eyequeue> Pierre, sudo rm /etc/alternatives/vim && sudo ln -s /usr/bin/vim.basic /etc/alternatives/vim
[07:05] <ladydoor> [WC] Guard: ok, then, you've figured out what the program is, right?
[07:05] <eyequeue> Pierre, the second one, sorry
[07:05] <tritium> eyequeue: perhaps use update-alternatives instaead
[07:05] <tritium> instead even
[07:05] <eyequeue> tritium, broken for him, oddly
[07:06] <tritium> oh, ok
[07:06] <[WC] Guard> yes, I want to change my menu icon, but it say i must do something in this
[07:06] <Pierre> eyequeue, I suspect a disk problem, sigh. ?-wsr-x-wT 51540 2924190306 879507146 22160024 2064-10-14 08:33
[07:06] <eyequeue> tritium, even as sudo permission errors on a dpkg-tmp file
[07:06] <eyequeue> Pierre, ouch, you had to power down perhaps?  the x issue?
[07:06] <Pierre> eyequeue, I will first check that before going with more write opts
[07:06] <dmd> anyone here got sysv-rc-conf installed?
[07:06] <laddercoins> a_I_e:It asks me to enter something for the ">boot:" command, and says If In Doubt, Press Enter. I do so, and it goes straight to a white screen displaying "Open Firmware 3.0" and a copyright notice from apple. It also says "can't allocate initial device-tree trunk."
[07:07] <Pierre> eyequeue, I had to reset, everything was dead
[07:07] <eyequeue> Pierre, agreed.  you may need to fsck from a rescue cd if you can
[07:07] <helpmeee> well that cd didnt help..
[07:07] <syli725> hi, anyone can help me on vpnc? I need to connect to my company VPN server. In windows XP, I just need create a new connection and give username and password. but when I tried vpnc, it ask me more than that. eg: IPSec ID, IPSec secret. Now, I couldn't connect to the server. any suggestions? or should vpnc work or not?
[07:07] <helpmeee> i need something to fix my vista boot please ppl.. vista is on second disk btw
[07:07] <laddercoins> :|
[07:08] <tritium> syli725: vpnc works.  You need to configure it
[07:08] <eyequeue> syli725, i'd contact the server admin and ask those facts
[07:08] <syli725> tritium, thanks a lot. can you give me any ideas?
[07:08] <tritium> syli725: vpnc comes with a utility that can take the Cisco client's config file, and convert it to one that vpnc can use
[07:08] <dmd> helpmee: youknow the drill 'format d:'
[07:08] <helpmeee> no non ononono
[07:08] <syli725> eyequeue, thanks. I will try it tomorrow ....
[07:08] <helpmeee> way too much mp3 and no cd
[07:09] <dmd> :) Sorry, standard irc gag
[07:09] <syli725> tritium, hm... thanks. but i don't really understand...
[07:09] <tritium> syli725: dpkg -L vpnc will list the files in vpnc
[07:09] <helpmeee> i'm feeling sick .. whole day in google .. no answer
[07:10] <dmd> I'm looking for someone who could run sysv-rc-conf for a coupla seconds for me please!
[07:10] <tritium> syli725: look for one in /usr/bin that also has a manpage (not vpnc, but the utility)
[07:10] <helpmeee> if someone can help me i need something to fix my vista boot please ppl.. vista is on second disk btw ... im please
[07:10] <tritium> dmd: ubuntu doesn't use that
[07:10] <voraistos> Zuu: you here ?
[07:10] <tritium> dmd: try update-rc.d
[07:10] <syli725> tritium, thanks. what is the utility name?
[07:11] <Zuu> voraistos, im allaround :P
[07:11] <tritium> syli725: I don't recall.  I don't have vpnc installed.
[07:11] <dmd> tritium: I just need to know what runlevels loopback should be running on
[07:11] <voraistos> Zuu: that means that we can try to remove your current system while using it
[07:12] <dmd> sysv-rc-config seems to work fine
[07:12] <Zuu> uhh.. how would that be done ?
[07:12] <[WC] Guard> ladydoor: you know how to change the menu-object icon?? i checked the use_custom_icon, but i think i have other thing to do
[07:12] <eyequeue> dmd, "runlevels: are irrelevant in debian/ubuntu, 2 3 4 and 5 are identical, 2 is default
[07:12] <laddercoins> To anyone who was discussing booting a Ubuntu Live CD on a G3 iMac with Filcovent: he's talking about my G3. It's just that I couldn't get on IRC, but now I can I may be able to be more specific about the problem.It asks me to enter something for the ">boot:" command, and says If In Doubt, Press Enter. I do so, and it goes straight to a white screen displaying "Open Firmware 3.0" and a copyright notice from apple. It 
[07:12] <syli725> tritium, thanks a lot. i will try to find it out by myself. thanks.
[07:12] <voraistos> Zuu: We need to get minimum packages running needed by Debian/ubuntu.
[07:12] <dmd> thanks eyequeue!
[07:13] <eyequeue> dmd, man update-rc.d for more info
[07:13] <eyequeue> dmd, np
[07:13] <voraistos> Zuu: remove all the rest. install ubuntu system while using Susue throught apt-get
[07:14] <Zuu> :P
[07:14] <eyequeue> voraistos, ubuntu-minimal package is good for that
[07:14] <eyequeue> !info ubuntu-minimal
[07:14] <ubotu> ubuntu-minimal: Minimal core of Ubuntu. In component main, is important. Version 0.120 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 40 kB
[07:14] <jang_> hi
[07:14] <voraistos> Zuu Or we can do that another way
[07:14] <voraistos> Zuu wait
[07:14] <Lam_> is there a linux program that'll convert my pc keyboard into a musical keyboard?
[07:14] <Zuu> hehe
[07:15] <voraistos> eyequeue: thing is we are not on a debian system. Well Suse is not a debian system, is it ?
[07:15] <tritium> voraistos: no, it's not
[07:15] <Zuu> voraistos, it uses rpm as its primary package stuff if that answers it :)
[07:15] <eyequeue> voraistos, no, though you had mentioned apt-get so i thought i'd toss that out to you (not him to confuse, heh)
[07:15] <laddercoins> Lam_: the only program I know of that can do that is Mac-Exclusive... Damn, that was very unhelpful  :(
[07:16] <Lam_> laddercoins: :(  thanks anywas
[07:16] <kyja> :/ you know on a google search there is an ununtu music comunity dedicated on creating music with ubuntu. found it on a search the other day.
[07:16] <voraistos> eyequeue: your technique was used in the Hoary times to make a Net install, but i am not sur we can make it like that
[07:16] <Lam_> kyja: i'll look into that. thanks for the heads up
[07:16] <Daniel^> Is there a way to force a laptop to "power save" mode even though its connected to the power cord?  I think its too noisy at the moment,  I rather sacrifice some performance.
[07:17] <jang_> can anybody tell me how to change the paper settings (in Ubuntu 6.06) an my network printer (connected to a Kubuntu 6.06 using cups)? on the client, all settings are gray, but it uses the wrong settings.
[07:17] <eyequeue> voraistos, i did a debian -> dapper recently that way, painfully, though it's not supported these days
[07:17] <voraistos> Daniel^Yes !
[07:17] <voraistos> eyequeue: I do respect You.
[07:17] <laddercoins> Hm......Meh.
[07:17] <eyequeue> voraistos, but suse > dapper is no doubt another beast altogether
[07:18] <voraistos> Daniel^ You want emifreq
[07:18] <Daniel^> ok,  thnx
[07:18] <majyk> what gstreamer plugin is needed to play mp4 files? I've installed every plugin that looks relevant but rythmbox still complains that there is no plugin installed to decode the file.
[07:18] <eyequeue> voraistos, lol, no removable media drives, i had little choice, heh
[07:18] <DrZeus> **hi all.  Is it possible to hide the whole navigation of directories from the terminal prompt?
[07:19] <voraistos> eyequeue: Ask Zuu: no CD drive, no internet connection, no... etc ...
[07:19] <voraistos> lol
[07:19] <dmb> did someone hilite me?
[07:19] <eyequeue> voraistos, i'm glad i dind't start from rpm-based then, heh
[07:19] <Zuu> i do have a dvd-drive tho no CD's
[07:19] <voraistos> hehe
[07:20] <Zuu> and i do have internet, but only when a lot of random needed stuff is installed to make the wifi work
[07:20] <voraistos> Zuu. maybe this drive is a CD burner ?
[07:20] <DrZeus> is it possible to hide the whole location address from the prompt in gnome-terminal, and just check with "pwd"?
[07:20] <Zuu> voraistos, yep it is
[07:20] <Neo8750> DrZeus: pretty sure but i couldn'[t tell you how
[07:20] <Zuu> all in one burner thingie :)
[07:20] <voraistos> Zuu: for less than 1 pound, i am sure you can get a blank CD somewhere :)
[07:21] <Zuu> voraistos, yeah.. im sure too
[07:21] <voraistos> Zuu, there is the other solution
[07:21] <Zuu> i just felt like wanting to install ubintu right at this wery moment :P
[07:21] <voraistos> Zuu: do u have space to make a partition on your HDD ?
[07:21] <DrZeus> Neo8750: what a pitiy
[07:21] <Neo8750> paients...
[07:22] <ladydoor> [WC] Guard: i don't actually use gnome--i *don't* know how?
[07:22] <Zuu> voraistos, well only by resizing the suse root partition to something smaller, and then creatig a partition from the free space
[07:22] <sonium> can somone tell me how to batch-rename files in a directory
[07:22] <voraistos> Zuu: yeah take 1 gig to be sure
[07:22] <sonium> from 001.jpg to 999.jpg
[07:23] <ladydoor> [WC] Guard: *not actually a question. don't know why the questionmark
[07:23] <DrZeus> **then it is "unknown" how to hide the navigation from the prompt in the gnome-terminal?**
[07:23] <Zuu> voraistos, whats the plane ?
[07:23] <Zuu> *plan
[07:23] <voraistos> Zuu: so we can actually uncompress the cd image from there, and try to boot from it
[07:23] <DrZeus> !gnome-terminal
[07:23] <ubotu> gnome-terminal: The GNOME 2 terminal emulator application. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 165 kB, installed size 396 kB
[07:23] <Zuu> ahh
[07:23] <Zuu> i see
[07:23] <eyequeue> DrZeus, i don't understand your question
[07:23] <Zuu> that would probably work quite fine
[07:23] <ncalpunker> Does anyone run ubuntu with parallels?
[07:23] <voraistos> Zuu: of course this is experimental ;)
[07:24] <jazwec> please could anybody help me with my sound card? i have sound blaster audigy 2 zs platinum pro and dont know how to set it up...thanks alot
[07:24] <pty> DrZeus: use zsh instead of bash?
[07:24] <Zuu> voraistos, but i would have to extract the boot sector from the CD to the HD
[07:24] <Zuu> i dunno how to do that
[07:24] <DrZeus> eyequeue: I wanted to know if its possible to hide the actual directory from the prompt, for just having "drzeus@shoetime"
[07:24] <voraistos> Zuu: not sure; for that, we go back to #grub
[07:25] <DrZeus> and check the directory with "pwd"
[07:25] <voraistos> Zuu, they know that kind of stuff
[07:25] <Zuu> hehe
[07:25] <ladydoor> DrZeus: yes, edit your .bashrc
[07:25] <Zuu> yeah
[07:25] <ladydoor> DrZeus: here's what to do
[07:25] <eyequeue> DrZeus, yes
[07:25] <eyequeue> DrZeus, ladydoor knows :)
[07:25] <voraistos> Zuu, if it doesnt boot the "CD", we can ask ubuntu gurus about specific CD bootdector things
[07:25] <ladydoor> eyequeue: lol...maybe. thanks
[07:25] <DrZeus> is it possible keeping bash?
[07:25] <Zuu> hmm..
[07:26] <ladydoor> DrZeus: yup! so first, let's open up your .bashrc. nano -w .bashrc
[07:26] <DrZeus> im all eyes(cuz i dont hear you actually)
[07:26] <DrZeus> ready
[07:26] <jose55> ola
[07:26] <Neo8750> you just need toy use your imagination for voice
[07:26] <ladydoor> haha, right. now, find the line that says PS1=somelongstringhere, without a # in front of it
[07:26] <jose55> hello
[07:26] <Zuu> voraistos, i am beginning to believe that all in all it would just be better for me to make someone bring a plain CD to me tomorrow
[07:27] <harleypig> I just had to reinstall my system and I'm running into this stoopid black screen on boot up when nvidia is the driver.  Ihave an amd64, nvidia 7800 Go GTX card.  I'd rather avoid combing through the forums and google again if I can avoid it ... anyone point me to some fixes?
[07:27] <clmd> how do i copy in a theme into rissi-- i get a message that i most be root to do that
[07:27] <voraistos> Zuu: well i told u that first ;)
[07:27] <Neo8750> Zuu: knock on your neighbor door and be like may i borrow a blank cd
[07:27] <Zuu> voraistos, yeah
[07:27] <DrZeus> im there
[07:27] <tritium> clmd: put it in your own ~/.irssi directory
[07:27] <DrZeus> ladydoor: im there
[07:27] <Zuu> voraistos, you are way too brilliant.. hehe pretty good ideas you have come up with
[07:27] <ladydoor> DrZeus: sweet. give me a second
[07:27] <clmd> ok thanx mate'
[07:28] <voraistos> Zuu: But i aint no programmer Yet
[07:28] <DrZeus> ladydoor: oks
[07:28] <Zuu> too bad none of them have really been made possible yet :P
[07:28] <deadlyallance382> how werll would ubuntu run on a boot from cf box ?
[07:28] <ladydoor> DrZeus: ok, would you mind putting that line into pastebin? paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:28] <voraistos> Zuu: i join the grub project tommorrow :)
[07:28] <clmd> thanx
[07:28] <Zuu> voraistos, huh.. i am.. i just dont know much bout linux :)
[07:28] <Daniel^> voraistos: I have a old lappy that doesnt support Frequency scaling.  I just want to make the fan become a bit more quiet.
[07:29] <ladydoor> DrZeus: (and then send me the url it spits out :-) )
[07:29] <voraistos> Daniel^ remove it
[07:29] <voraistos> lol
[07:29] <DrZeus> ladydoor: lol give me a sec
[07:29] <Daniel^> hehe
[07:29] <Daniel^> nice idea
[07:29] <ladydoor> DrZeus: kk
[07:29] <Zuu> But thanks a lot voraistos :D
[07:29] <voraistos> Zuu: i dont know that much either, i am a user and try to help
[07:29] <kyja> Zuu, http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Hd_Based_HowTo
[07:30] <helpmeee> anyone: i need something to fix my vista boot please ppl.. vista is on second disk btw ?
[07:30] <kyja> oh wait
[07:30] <voraistos> Zuu; thx to you to, i had fun time :)
[07:30] <kyja> I may have posted to soon
[07:30] <Zuu> hehe.. me too :P
[07:30] <Daniel^> Is there any nice program that can control a laptop fan?
[07:30] <Zuu> seems like kyja, have something that might be of use
[07:30] <Zuu> :)
[07:31] <kyja> sort of.. like what files to extract and copy to a drive
[07:31] <voraistos> Daniel^ i think you just cant if its too old. how old is it ?
[07:31] <voraistos> kyja: are you a programmer ?
[07:31] <kyja> surely there are other ways as well
[07:31] <deadlyallance382> helpmeee vista WILL REWRITE YOUR MBR EVERY TIME IT BOOTS
[07:31] <eyequeue> !windows > helpmeee
[07:31] <kyja> somewhat.
[07:31] <montytaylor> #ubuntu+1
[07:31] <DrZeus> ladydoor: there u go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24262
[07:31] <debianos> hello, i wan't find the driver for pinnacle usb2 for tv
[07:32] <debianos> please help me
[07:32] <Zuu> kyja, nice.. i should bookmark that, that would likely come in handy, if not today, then some other day :D
[07:32] <kyja> yeah.
[07:32] <Daniel^> voraistos: Toshiba Tecra 8000.  Pretty old :)
[07:32] <voraistos> deadlyallance382 You should format with Ext3 to make sure no Microsoft Malware is still present on your HDD
[07:32] <ladydoor> DrZeus: it's "connecting." just a sec
[07:32] <DrZeus> ok
[07:32] <voraistos> Daniel^ are you able to control the fan with windows ?
[07:32] <kyja> I am still searching fro a trick with grub
[07:33] <deadlyallance382> voraistos i was telling helpmeee
[07:33] <clmd> testing 1 2 1 2
[07:33] <Zuu> hehe
[07:33] <kyja> oooh
[07:33] <ladydoor> deadlyallance382: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT
[07:33] <_tom_> Daniel^, look in bios, if you can change the cooling there. on my old laptop there was a setting for it
[07:33] <Daniel^> voraistos: I have no idea.  Anyway,  Im off to a big google adventure
[07:33] <voraistos> deadlyallance382 wahahaha sorry
[07:33] <Daniel^> ah,  thnx tom
[07:33] <deadlyallance382> ladydoor sorry i hit the caps not on purpose
[07:33] <helpmeee> deadlyallance382: well i dont care about ubuntu.. it was the only os install cd i had ...  i installed vista for testing to partition 2.. then found it cool and formatted the first partition. then it told me "no op sys" .. i installed ubuntu on part 1 and beg for help:D
[07:33] <Buzz_Lightyear> Hi ... someone here, who can help me with RT61 chipset ?
[07:33] <DrZeus> ladydoor: I *think* i found it, but not totally sure
[07:34] <ladydoor> deadlyallance382: understandable
[07:34] <toby> anyone know a way  to switch to a specific workspace using CLI?
[07:34] <montytaylor> anybody know what package provides default-splash.xpm.gz
[07:34] <voraistos> Daniel^ there will be o hardware support for it, so no software interface; what you have to do is: -change the fan or  -remove it or -install a variator manually ;)
[07:34] <deadlyallance382> helpmee you will need to fdisk the mbr and do a full format
[07:34] <ladydoor> DrZeus: yeah, ok, actually i'm not able to connect to ubuntu-nl right now. however, there should be a part in there that looks like this:
[07:34] <Rookie-> !rpm
[07:34] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[07:34] <eyequeue> toby, chvt
[07:34] <kyja> oh. well I found a page that lets you copy the minimum required files to get a working linux and then use grub I guess
[07:34] <hegoi> hola
[07:34] <ladydoor> DrZeus: \w\
[07:35] <helpmeee> what about all my stuff.. cant i get my hands on windows partition to get my mp3 and stuff ?
[07:35] <flicovent> !apt
[07:35] <eyequeue> !eow chvt
[07:35] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eow chvt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:35] <eyequeue> chvt (1)             - change foreground virtual terminal
[07:35] <toby> eyequeue thanks i'll have a look
[07:35] <DrZeus> ladydoor: \w\ ?
[07:35] <Daniel^> voraistos: Thnx for the support.
[07:35] <voraistos> ubotu: we know alien is quite dangerous ! lol u nice bot :)
[07:35] <deadlyallance382> helpmeee the only i have found to duelboot vista and linux "with ease" is to yous hard drive caddys
[07:35] <ladydoor> DrZeus: remove that, save, and then start a new terminal (without closing this one)
[07:35] <DrZeus> ok
[07:36] <helpmeee> i dont even know what a hard drive caddy is :l
[07:36] <hegoi> buenos dias
[07:36] <rug_> Howdy all
[07:36] <clmd> testing
[07:36] <DrZeus> lets see...
[07:36] <deadlyallance382> helpmee just a sec ill give you a url
[07:37] <DrZeus> ladydoor: nothing
[07:37] <rug_> I need help with the nvidia drivers.  when I restart X, I get the Nvidia logo, but if I run glxinfo I get an error.
[07:37] <ladydoor> DrZeus: that didn't get rid of the working directory? just a sec
[07:37] <chillmode> :D
[07:37] <deadlyallance382> helpmee http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817119503
[07:37] <helpmeee> deadlyallance382: thanks, im losing hope.. i've been trying to get my vista to boot for 2 days now.. im not such a computer superstar :\
[07:38] <Rug> There that's better
[07:38] <hegoi> alguien que hable castellano?
[07:38] <ladydoor> hegoi: #ubuntu-es
[07:38] <deadlyallance382> helpmee thats what i use you have 2 "trays" and a garage you turn the key to take them out and you put the hard drives in the trays its like haveing to computers with just one
[07:39] <deadlyallance382> helpmee 2 not to
[07:39] <DrZeus> ladydoor: i removed this " :\[\033[01;34m\] \w\[\033\] \ "
[07:39] <Fjutrackx> corps
[07:39] <DrZeus> ladydoor: because the directory always goes after the colon
[07:39] <bmcfarli> anyone here run a PCI-x x700 pro radeon card?
[07:39] <helpmeee> maybe if i download vista again and k3b it to dvd and install it to partition 1.. i logically have partition 2 untouched and usable
[07:40] <ladydoor> DrZeus: right right. you might keep the second bracketed part, then save again and open a new term again
[07:40] <chillmode> can some one pleas highligt me?
[07:40] <deadlyallance382> helpmee you might also want to check the jumpers on the harddrives to make sure 1 is master and 1 is slave
[07:40] <Rug> chillmode: tag
[07:40] <chillmode> Rug: thanx
[07:40] <helpmeee> 1 have 1 harddrive.. only partitions slip it
[07:40] <helpmeee> split
[07:40] <chillmode> nice chanel.. nice peaple over here :D
[07:41] <toby> eyequeue, chvt changes the terminal I want to change the workspace in gnome using cli not have to click on the switcher
[07:41] <DrZeus> i'll try
[07:41] <eyequeue> toby, ah, sorry, no idea
[07:41] <deadlyallance382> helpmee remember you have to eather do 1 of 2 things ....install vista then install linux and then passwoed protect the grub boot loader or use the caddys because vista will wipe out grub "your boot loader or try to every  time it boots
[07:42] <ladydoor> DrZeus: when you open the new term, try cd'ing to another directory. i noticed that the difference is not considerable unless you're not in your home idr
[07:42] <toby> t<eyequeue> thanks anyhow
[07:42] <helpmeee> fuck linux:D
[07:42] <deadlyallance382> helpmee do you get what i am saying or do you need more detail
[07:42] <ladydoor> toby: why not just use the keybindings for it?
[07:42] <erUSUL> |language > helpmeee
[07:42] <eyequeue> !language > helpmeee
[07:42] <lsproc> I am trying to set up php and mysql on ubuntu, i run a script and it seems to halt on connecting to db
[07:43] <helpmeee> i constantly forget language thing
[07:43] <kyja> ??????????
[07:43] <DrZeus> ladydoor: it's not making the update; i think it ill be better if i reboot
[07:43] <toby> ladydoor i want to run it via a script
[07:43] <ladydoor> DrZeus: you don't need to reboot
[07:43] <kyja> voraistos, zuu, look here http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=367901
[07:43] <ladydoor> DrZeus: i just did what i'm asking you to do and it did what you want it to.
[07:43] <ladydoor> toby: aha. good luck!
[07:44] <DrZeus> ladydoor: really? ask me again plz
[07:44] <kyja> that is an actual cheat code of knoppix so why cant grub do ubuntu via an iso file??
[07:44] <Rug> I need help with the nvidia drivers.  when I restart X, I get the Nvidia logo, but if I run glxinfo I get an error.
[07:44] <DrZeus> !bashrc
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bashrc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:44] <DrZeus> !.bashrc
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bashrc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:44] <deadlyallance382> helpmee if you only have 1 hard drive you have to install vista first then install linux and let it weite to the mbr and you have to passwoed protect it or vista will wipe it out it is bill's way iof shuting out linux
[07:45] <ladydoor> DrZeus: ok, remove this part: \[\033\] \w\ (the numbers in the brackets may be different)
[07:45] <Jaak_> can someone help redirect me to info on sleep mode?
[07:45] <Jaak_> or rather standbye
[07:45] <Rookie-> man sllep
[07:45] <Rookie-> man sleep
[07:45] <helpmeee> deadlyallance382: k k but im not interested in installing linux at all
[07:46] <helpmeee> just want to get my vista back:D
[07:46] <DrZeus> ladydoor: did it.  Will check
[07:46] <deadlyallance382> oh well then fdisk the whole drive and install vista
[07:46] <Bonez56> hi all. I have a bluetooth USB key that also includes a 128mb flash disk in one. I just plugged it in and lsusb shows: Ours Technology, Inc. OTI-6828 Flash Disk. Anyone know how I can get the Bluetooth function of it to work? I have no idea where to start. Thanks
[07:46] <Zuu> kyja, Nice!
[07:46] <ladydoor> DrZeus: sweet. it'll only show up if you start a new terminal or restart bash, keep in mind
[07:46] <voraistos> yeah cheers
[07:46] <deadlyallance382> helpmee you are in a linux channel!
[07:46] <phaedrus44> Tokenbad:     you around?
[07:46] <flicovent> helpmeee: are you sure this is the right channel for you?
[07:46] <Lam_> can i use a wildcard to open all folders in the terminal and remove the same file within each of those folders?
[07:47] <helpmeee> appears so. i was hoping that linux had stuff to reconstruct vista boot
[07:47] <phaedrus44> huh?
[07:47] <helpmeee> cause im using xubuntu right now
[07:47] <DrZeus> ladydoor: its still not doing it
[07:47] <ladydoor> helpmeee: errr...linux isn't windows
[07:47] <deadlyallance382> helpmee you can try ebcd pro but i am not sure if it will help much with vista
[07:47] <phaedrus44> why errr?...   just asking
[07:47] <ladydoor> DrZeus: that's...very strange. would you paste that single line in here please?
[07:47] <Lam_> something like $~/school/work/* | rm education.pdf
[07:47] <we2by> omg, you got Vista already?
[07:48] <Tokenbad> phaedrus44, sorta
[07:48] <phaedrus44> dude
[07:48] <Rug> helpmeee: Vista is in beta-testing mode.  It will screw-up.  You should be prepared to nuke & reinstall
[07:48] <deadlyallance382> ive had vista for 3 years
[07:48] <phaedrus44> can you message me?
[07:48] <helpmeee> rc1 is out.. looked like ok
[07:48] <Rug> rc1 is still BETA
[07:48] <kyja> yeah it may only do knoppix I dont know. knoppix is an awsome distro and there is a way to install it to HD but it is undocumented secret.
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> heh - looks like somthing go avoid like the black plague.
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:48] <kyja> but I love ubuntu
[07:48] <deadlyallance382> rc1 is for amrketing
[07:48] <Zuu> :)
[07:48] <deadlyallance382> markiting
[07:49] <deadlyallance382> eh what ever lol\
[07:49] <ladydoor> Lam_: maybe something like "for dir in ~/school/work ; do cd $dir ; rm -i * ; done"
[07:49] <phaedrus44> kyja:   with ubiquity?
[07:49] <ladydoor> ?
[07:49] <Bonez56> hi all. I have a bluetooth USB key that also includes a 128mb flash disk in one. I just plugged it in and lsusb shows: Ours Technology, Inc. OTI-6828 Flash Disk. Anyone know how I can get the Bluetooth function of it to work? I have no idea where to start. Thanks
[07:49] <Samuli^> Lam_, that command doesn't make much sense to me.
[07:49] <kyja> phaedrus44, ?? ubiquity??
[07:49] <phaedrus44> installing knoppix to hd with ubiquity?
[07:49] <kyja> no
[07:49] <we2by> any one got video working with xgl?
[07:50] <phaedrus44> what is the undocumented seceret?
[07:50] <deadlyallance382> remember when linux ppl say beta they mean it but if ms says it they are just trying to get you to spend money with them next year
[07:50] <Lam_> i'm basically trying to open all directories within one folder and remove a fragrant file with the same name in each directory
[07:50] <kyja> you open a terminal after cd boots. then do if I remember right knoppix_install
[07:50] <kyja> I dod it a few weeks ago
[07:50] <phaedrus44> kyja:   ever use ubiquity?
[07:50] <kyja> but there is some other way also
[07:50] <ladydoor> Lam_: ok, then edit what i said to where it's appropriate i guess
[07:50] <DrZeus> ladydoor: do u want the line pasted here?
[07:50] <phaedrus44> wait i think it was called espresso before
[07:50] <kyja> nomego_, what is that?
[07:51] <kyja> err
[07:51] <ladydoor> DrZeus: no, that's alright. change it to where it says this:
[07:51] <Lam_> ladydoor:  lol thanks a lot
[07:51] <kyja> phaedrus44, explain more please
[07:51] <kyja> ah
[07:51] <ladydoor> PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\] \u@\h\[\033\] :\[\033[01;34m\] \w\[\033\] \$ '
[07:51] <ladydoor> wait
[07:51] <ladydoor> no
[07:51] <DrZeus> ok, i wait
[07:51] <phaedrus44> apt-get install ubiguity   then  when its installed   just call it    ubiquity and installs live cd to hd
[07:52] <ladydoor> PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\] \u@\h\[\033\] :\[\033\] \$ '
[07:52] <DrZeus> ok, let me paste
[07:53] <bXi> whats with that prompt?
[07:53] <ladydoor> DrZeus: incidentally, a lot of people say that xchat is better than xchat-gnome
[07:54] <phaedrus44> kyja: apt-get install ubiguity   then  when its installed   just call it    ubiquity and installs live cd to hd
[07:54] <kyja> nice.
[07:54] <phaedrus44> Tokenbad:   will you message me dude!
[07:54] <tcoffin> Hello folks
[07:54] <asdfr> hi, all these security update kernels I'm downloading... are the updates also including non-security bug fixes???
[07:54] <tcoffin> Got a quick (hopefully) question...I need to hit specific webservers, so editing my hosts file.
[07:54] <tcoffin> How can I clear the dns cache so I don't accidentally hit the previous server?
[07:55] <kyja> phaedrus44, the only trouble I had with knoppix is that I could not get my bcm4306 radio to work
[07:55] <ladydoor> DrZeus: did it work?
[07:55] <Tokenbad> phaedrus44, gotta go grab my son off the bus...will msg when get back
[07:55] <Kragnerac> Jack_Sparrow: Okay, I tried booting into Windows. Works fine. Here's a screenshot of what the drive icon looks like. http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1354/screenshotgn7.png
[07:55] <Jack_Sparrow> kyja: sudo knoppix-installer
[07:55] <phaedrus44> sweet thatnnk Tokenbad
[07:56] <phaedrus44> kyja:     wireless?
[07:56] <DrZeus> sorry, let me check
[07:56] <kyja> yeah thats it. yeah wireless
[07:56] <earthian> hello
[07:56] <earthian> i have a problem
[07:56] <Tumaini> Heya all! I'm looking to try out a Linux system, and am considering ubuntu. Would anyone here like to tell me the advantages of ubuntu over other systems like Suse and debian?
[07:56] <phaedrus44> me too
[07:56] <earthian> something is using one of my processors 100%
[07:56] <bXi> Tumaini: thats easy ubuntu support a lot of hardware right out of the box
[07:57] <earthian> how can i trace what exactly is using it and how to kill it? atm gnome system monitor shows only that Xorg is using the CPU power
[07:57] <laddercoins> Anybody else having problems installing Dapper with a 333MHz iMac G3?
[07:57] <laddercoins> When I boot from the Live CD a black screen comes up along with "Welcome to Ubuntu 6.0.6 (Dapper Drake)! It comes up with the "If In Doubt, Press Enter" message and underneath that is a field where you can type with ">boot:" written just before it. I have tried typing everything the tab button suggests, and nothing seems to be working at all, as everything I try puts me onto Open Firmware 3.0, which is essentially a w
[07:57] <kyja> so I hold my love for ubuntu the truest even if it runs my wireless at 11b instead of 54g but for a fully functional os knoppix impressed me. all my favorite apps.
[07:57] <earthian> that is happening not the first time!!!
[07:57] <phaedrus44> Tumaini:   Suse   seems a bit "heavy" but is great ...Debian seems less user friendly than ubuntu...i used Debian and Suse before ubuntu
[07:57] <Bonez56> hi all. I have a bluetooth USB key that also includes a 128mb flash disk in one. I just plugged it in and lsusb shows: Ours Technology, Inc. OTI-6828 Flash Disk. Anyone know how I can get the Bluetooth function of it to work? I have no idea where to start. Thanks
[07:57] <bulldog_> Afternoon, I am having trouble printing from a HP Laserjet 5n, cups, gimp-print and hplib toolbox are installed but the job just hangs in pending forever without reaching the printer
[07:57] <Tumaini> phaedrus44: What made you change to ubuntu?
[07:57] <earthian> can somebody help me track and fix the problem???
[07:58] <DrZeus> ladydoor: i saw the other PS1 line -->     PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$ ' and found out that maybe the \w\ needs to get erased here also
[07:58] <phaedrus44> Tumaini:   uh....ubuntu includes a lot off applications that debian does not "out of the box"....
[07:58] <nat_> how to burn copy dvds with ubuntu ?
[07:58] <ladydoor> DrZeus: possibly. it's worth a shot.
[07:58] <erUSUL> earthian: use top
[07:58] <earthian> bad thing is that the CPU uses at least 80W power and the fan makes a lot of noice :S
[07:58] <laddercoins> Anybody else having problems installing Dapper with a 333MHz iMac G3?
[07:58] <laddercoins> When I boot from the Live CD a black screen comes up along with "Welcome to Ubuntu 6.0.6 (Dapper Drake)! It comes up with the "If In Doubt, Press Enter" message and underneath that is a field where you can type with ">boot:" written just before it.
[07:58] <laddercoins> I have tried typing everything the tab button suggests, and nothing seems to be working at all, as everything I try puts me onto Open Firmware 3.0, which is essentially a white screen with a Copyright notice from Apple. The error message "Can't allocate initial driver device-tree trunk" is displayed on the top line and nothing I do can get me any further in the live CD than that black screen. What can I do?
[07:58] <sys6656> Hi I've installed totem-xine, cannot play dvd movies.. Trying to find this: libdvdcss2, I do not see it in the synapic package manager.. I have all respositoies enabled. please.
[07:58] <earthian> oko erUSUL trying :)
[07:58] <Tumaini> Ah, ok. Can you install ubuntu without having to burn lots of cds?
[07:59] <erUSUL> !repeat > laddercoins
[07:59] <phaedrus44> Tumaini:  i have use all three extensivley and I stuck with Ubuntu:   actuall Fluxbuntu
[07:59] <DrZeus> ladydoor: that was it
[07:59] <phaedrus44> Tumaini:  one cd
[07:59] <erUSUL> Tumaini: ubuntu only has one cd
[07:59] <Kragnerac> Hello, does anyone know how to run Windows natively on Ubuntu?
[07:59] <Tumaini> Ah, that's great!
[07:59] <phaedrus44> what you use now?
[07:59] <erUSUL> Kragnerac: vmware
[07:59] <ladydoor> DrZeus: sweet! out of curiosity, why did you need to do that?
[07:59] <nat_> Kragnerac, vmware
[07:59] <Neo8750> !libdvdcss2
[07:59] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:59] <Bonez56> Kragnerac, VMWare
[07:59] <earthian> erUSUL, is shows that Xorg is using 90-100% cpu power
[07:59] <nat_> how to burn copy dvds with ubuntu ?
[07:59] <laddercoins> erUSUL: Sorry, it cut off before.
[07:59] <NeilyBoy> i don't suppose creative x-fi is supported on linux yet?
[08:00] <Neo8750> sys6656: its libdvdcss2
[08:00] <phaedrus44> Tumaini:  what you use now?
[08:00] <earthian> what exactly is Xorg doing?
[08:00] <sys6656> Tks Neo8750
[08:00] <earthian> i mean nothing video intensive is running
[08:00] <phaedrus44> earthian:  what you tell it to
[08:00] <phaedrus44> : )
[08:00] <earthian> erUSUL,
[08:00] <nat_> anyone ?
[08:00] <earthian> ^
[08:00] <earthian> :_
[08:00] <erUSUL> earthian: try restarting it (sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart) to see if the problem goes away
[08:00] <Kragnerac> erUSUL, nat_, Bonez56: Well, I have a Windows partition on my HD. Can I get VMware to use that partition or do I have to create a Virtual Machine?
[08:00] <earthian> it will go away
[08:00] <earthian> but it will happen again and again
[08:00] <DrZeus> ladydoor: when entering the win partition, because the folder names are in spanish("Program Files == Archivos de Programa"), sometimes the prompt took like 2-3 lines of the whole window
[08:00] <earthian> :/
[08:01] <earthian> it already hapened multiple times
[08:01] <silent_scream> hi! how can i make .exe files to open when i double click on them with wine? i have configured wine, and when i double click an .exe file it says: "cannot open"
[08:01] <nat_> Kragnerac, yes mount them with samba
[08:01] <Limewood> I use Win XP. Should I get the i386 download, if I have Intel celeron?
[08:01] <DrZeus> ladydoor: and also in other directories
[08:01] <ladydoor> DrZeus: ah, fair enough.
[08:01] <Bonez56> Kragnerac, no, you have to create a virtual machine. Otherwise you can dual boot?
[08:01] <DrZeus> ladydoor: lol
[08:01] <earthian> erUSUL, like once in a day or so
[08:01] <ladydoor> DrZeus: well, sweet. enjoy your new prompt :-)
[08:01] <ladydoor> silent_scream: here's a better idea :-)
[08:01] <we2by> os[Linux 2.6.15-27-386 i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2400  @ 1.83GHz @ 1.37GHz]  mem[Physical : 473MB, 32.0% free]  disk[Total : 9.57GB, 46.60% Free]  video[Intel Corporation Mobile Integrated Graphics Controller]  sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel] 
[08:01] <nat_> how to burn copy dvds with ubuntu ?
[08:01] <Limewood> =Tumaini
[08:02] <ladydoor> silent_scream: where are these .exe's?
[08:02] <Limewood> phaedrus44: I use Win XP.
[08:02] <jbroome> that's great we2by , but we don't care
[08:02] <silent_scream> on desktop i.e.
[08:02] <erUSUL> earthian: did you change anything in the xorg configuration recently?
[08:02] <Limewood> Should I get the i386 download for an Intel celeron?
[08:02] <earthian> i reinstalled all xorg just yesterday
[08:02] <Kragnerac> Bonez56: Meh, I'm looking for a way to use my existing Windows partition in Ubuntu like Parallels. Is there any way to do in that method?
[08:02] <nat_> Limewood, yes
[08:02] <Limewood> Thanks.
[08:02] <we2by> jbroome, u just did
[08:02] <we2by> because you replied :P
[08:02] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: Thx for the flash fix earlier :) .... I was wondering if Firefox was using the new version of flash or the old one as it installed the flash plugin to my home .mozilla directory
[08:03] <nickspoon> Limewood: i386 yes, unless it's a 64-bit celeron and you don't mind having no Flash.
[08:03] <Bonez56> Kragnerac, do you want to just access the files on your windows partition, or do you actually want to boot windows and run programs?
[08:03] <ladydoor> silent_scream: ok, let's open up a terminal. then move the .exe's to an out-of-the-way place so they won't clutter up your desktop (but what we're about to do can be located there)
[08:03] <flicovent> a_l_e: are you back yet please? Sorry, my friend (laddercoins) can be more specific about the problem with the G3.
[08:03] <erUSUL> we2by: please avoid the use of such scripts around here this is a very busy channel and it will be a pain if everybody did the same. Thanks ;)
[08:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Kragnerac: Sorry guys had to answer the door....
[08:03] <earthian> erUSUL, that i think is not the case... the 100% cpu usage started ~75 minutes ago when i was not on my computer... maybe a screensaver did something?
[08:03] <Kragnerac> Bonez56: I would like to boot Windows in Ubuntu.
[08:03] <nat_> noone burns dvds with ubuntu ?
[08:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: no idea.. does it work?
[08:03] <Angeltronix> Limewood: yes, the i386 kernel should work on any 32-bit intel or amd processor
[08:03] <silent_scream> ok ladydoor i'm with you
[08:04] <Paddy_EIRE> seems to work just fine :)
[08:04] <Bonez56> Kragnerac, then you will need to use VMWare
[08:04] <we2by> np :)
[08:04] <erUSUL> earthian: i do not know what can it be, sorry. btw why did you reinstaled X
[08:04] <erUSUL> ?
[08:04] <ladydoor> silent_scream: sweet. did you just open the terminal, or did you move the .exe's somewhere else already?
[08:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Kragnerac: What does windows show as the name of the windows partition.. ANy funny characters there?
[08:04] <nat_> pls what do i use to burn dvds ?
[08:04] <earthian> because of lost /boot partition few days ago then i reinstalled kernels.... its a long story :)
[08:04] <Kragnerac> Jack_Sparrow: Screenshot: http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1354/screenshotgn7.png
[08:04] <DrZeus> ladydoor: thnx for the help
[08:04] <Jack_Sparrow> nat_: k3b
[08:04] <ladydoor> DrZeus: np
[08:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !k3b
[08:04] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[08:04] <silent_scream> it's ok ladydoor there are now in /home/silent folder
[08:04] <Rondom> nat_: k3b
 still just having difficulty with why it chooses .mozilla as the default and not .firefox??? weird one huh
[08:05] <nat_> aight thankie
[08:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Kragnerac: I saw that but what is the name as windows sees it.. and can you read it in linux ok or not?
[08:05] <ladydoor> silent_scream: cool. ok, now cd into your desktop and do nano -w whatever-one-of-the-exes-was-called-minus-the-exe
[08:05] <ladydoor> lol
[08:06] <bulldog_> Afternoon, I am having trouble printing from a HP Laserjet 5n, cups, gimp-print and hplib toolbox are installed but the job just hangs in pending forever without reaching the printer
[08:06] <silent_scream> nano=gedit also isuppose?
[08:06] <ladydoor> silent_scream: and it helps if you say my nick at the beginning of whatever you say to me. errr, i guess you can use gedit. whatever you're comfortable with
[08:06] <Lam_> silent_scream: nano is like gedit except it can run in a command line based environment
[08:07] <Jack_Sparrow> gksudo gedit
[08:07] <ladydoor> Jack_Sparrow: not in this case, but thank you
[08:07] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[08:07] <earthian> ok reloading my Xorg :/
[08:07] <ladydoor> silent_scream: so let me know when you're ready to continue
[08:07] <earthian> no help this time... will be waiting for a new version maybe?
[08:08] <silent_scream> ladydoor, ok i'm ready
[08:08] <earthian> bye and thanks
[08:08] <ladydoor> silent_scream: ok. just a sec
[08:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Kragnerac: I must ask... Have you run scripts like Automatix, (NOT recommending that you do.) to install anything?
[08:08] <Kragnerac> Jack_Sparrow: Yes, I can see the files in Linux. Is Windows supposed to show another name than the drive letter for it's partition (other than C:\ in my case)?
[08:09] <Kragnerac> Jack_Sparrow: Nope. I just installed Ubuntu a few minutes ago.
[08:09] <Lam_> ladydoor:  for dir in /media/hdb1/images/ ; do cd $dir ; rm "Thumbs.db" ; done   ---->  cannot remove. cannot find file/directory "Thumbs.db"
[08:09] <silent_scream> ladydoor, for example nano -w utorrent.exe right?
[08:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Kragnerac: Windows explorer usually shows a name as well
[08:09] <Kragnerac> Jack_Sparrow: It says "Local Disk".
[08:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Kragnerac: An odd character in the Windows name might account for the funny name you see.
[08:09] <ladydoor> silent_scream: right, but without the .exe. and make sure you're in your Desktop dir
[08:10] <Kragnerac> Jack_Sparrow: Hmm. Hold on a second.
[08:10] <flamesro1k> anyone know which network character encoding I can use to get special portuguese letter characters for writing them to a ntfs window share?
[08:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Kragnerac: NExt time you are in windows use windows explorer, right click the C drive and left click properties and see what the name is..
[08:11] <ladydoor> silent_scream: and then do this:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24264
[08:11] <silent_scream> ok ladydoor  i see an empty file
[08:11] <dougalater> got a seaquest harddrive from a friend now when i try to browse my slave i get this"You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hdb1".
[08:11] <ladydoor> silent_scream: yup! that's what you should see
[08:11] <Blissex> flamesro1k: usually UTF-8
[08:11] <XeruX> So, I followed this guide on the ubuntu wiki on how to install and set XGL up.. however, when I log in and enter gnome I have no window borders.... ?
[08:11] <ladydoor> silent_scream: what you're doing is creating a launcher on your desktop
[08:11] <Xtremer> hi everybody :)
[08:11] <dougalater> hola
[08:11] <eyequeue> XeruX, /join #ubuntu-xgl
[08:12] <Lam_> XeruX:  either you didn't install compiz, or compiz or metacity didn't start up correctly
[08:12] <jhon> hi world
[08:12] <mikeconcepts> Urgent help - a friend is about to ditch Ubuntu because it goes into powersave mode with no way to get out, can't wake up the system - I obviously don't want him to go to another distro
[08:12] <Pierre> eyequeue, fighting with ubuntu CDs and other rescue discs. They don't like my controller (SiI) even if the ununtu install detected it well :P
[08:12] <silent_scream> ladydoor,  so in place of execname i put utorrent right?
[08:12] <flamesro1k> Blissex: I tried, it doesn't seem to work :(
[08:13] <Xtremer> what is the thing with the xserver org ? :)
[08:13] <eyequeue> Pierre, ouch
[08:13] <ladydoor> silent_scream: right.
[08:13] <mikeconcepts> how to disable power save?
[08:13] <mikeconcepts> must be simple
[08:13] <dougalater>  got a seaquest harddrive from a friend now when i try to browse my slave i get this"You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hdb1".how do i get into it?
[08:13] <eyequeue> Xtremer, thing?  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[08:13] <JAnderson> hello :) may i ask a question in relation to install from one of the cds i got????
[08:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Pierre: Silicon controller is not set to raid is it?
[08:14] <laddercoins_> JAnderson: Fire away.
[08:14] <laddercoins_> :D
[08:14] <Xtremer> the problem with the server .. once u intall the new one in would not shot the splash && the boot screen :)
[08:14] <Paddy_EIRE> Is there an apt reinstall command, and why use aptitude over apt?
[08:14] <strangy> mornin'
[08:14] <Kragnerac> Jack_Sparrow: I checked the properties menu. No strange characters there.
[08:14] <Pierre> Jack_Sparrow, hm, I don't use Raid, so I suppose not :)
[08:15] <JAnderson> ok i got a cd today and tried to install but noting seems to happen it seems to be stuck at [unistalling linux....OK loading Kurnal]  am i doing some thing wrong???
[08:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Kragnerac: I dont have an answer for the odd name, but at least you can get to your files.
[08:15] <shwag> anyone know why rsync would report an IO Error?
[08:15] <ubunter> hi. how to install Adobe Flash on Opera in ubuntu?
[08:15] <silent_scream> ladydoor, so i save this and...
[08:15] <variant> ubunter: adobe flas?
[08:15] <laddercoins_> JAnderson: It's probably system-related; I can't even get past the syntax myself!
[08:15] <variant> ubunter: you mean macromedia flash?
[08:15] <ladydoor> silent_scream: and it should show up on your desktop. there's one more thing to do, though.
[08:16] <ubunter> varian - yes
[08:16] <strangy> is there a HOWTO for linux-vserver on ubuntu 6.06 .... what to do with kernel-patches-vserver package ???
[08:16] <Xtremer> for ubuntu 32 bit or 64 ubunter ?
[08:16] <bulldog_> anyone know what might fix my printer problem, remove and reinstall packages eh?
[08:16] <Jack_Sparrow> JAnderson: Is it the dapper live or the alt install cd?
[08:16] <silent_scream> ladydoor, i'm still with you
[08:16] <ubunter> Xtremer 32
[08:16] <eyequeue> shwag,  inability to write to the hd?  df
[08:16] <Lard-O-Lad> Has anyone had problems with the flashplugin-nonfree package (7.0.68-ubuntu1-dapper1)?
[08:16] <JAnderson> can you recommend anything as i got the 3 dics set and really want to get it on the pc here
[08:16] <strangy> Lard-O-Lad, i had problems with it
[08:16] <hawaisurf> hi guys! I have a problem with my upper meny bar when I run a program like skype gnome or whatever it doesnt appear anymore the icon on the right of the bar close to the clock where they use to appear and I cannot even close the applications in a common way.....you know what can I do? thank you.
[08:16] <Lard-O-Lad> strangy: any workaround?
[08:16] <ladydoor> silent_scream: kk, in that case chmod +x ~/Desktop/utorrent (or whatever) to make it executable
[08:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Lard-O-Lad: Lots of people had trouble with the upgrade...  try this  http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/08/install-mozilla-flash-plugin-in-ubuntu.html
[08:17] <we2by> !divx
[08:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:17] <silent_scream> ladydoor, ok could i make this file hidden also???
[08:17] <Xtremer> insn't the gnash plugin the flash player ??
[08:17] <ladydoor> silent_scream: hidden? you mean so you *couldn't* click on it to start utorrent?
[08:18] <Bonez56> anyone know what's going on with the flash-plugin update? i maintain 3 ubuntu desktop PC's and after doing an apt-get upgrade and trying to install the flashplayer upgrade I get dpkg errors
[08:18] <Jack_Sparrow> hawaisurf: How did youinstall Skype?
[08:18] <ubunter> variant - adobe flash
[08:18] <nickspoon> Xtremer: there are two main flash players, gnash and flash-nonfree.
[08:18] <laddercoins_> JAnderson: I can think of nothing, regrettably  have you tried the forum?
[08:18] <variant> yo, i am using an orinoco based wifi card.. its detected fine and gets an ip address but i still cant connect to the net
[08:18] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow : the fix u gave me worked as in it installed and appears to be working using firefox..... but whenever i use apt-get it still wants to perform the same malfunctioning action as before
[08:18] <zaggynl> How can I make mplayer the default video player?
[08:18] <variant> i just get unkonwn host etc
[08:18] <strangy> so nobody nows nothing about linux-vserver installation on ubuntu
[08:18] <RvGaTe> Hey, how do i setup a header and footer, so it will not display on the front (first) page...  in OpenOffice Writer
[08:18] <strangy> :(
[08:18] <Xtremer> 64 bit users can try Swiftfox :)
[08:18] <silent_scream> no ladydoor i just don't want to fill my desktop with scripts...!
[08:18] <ladydoor> silent_scream: errr...it's the same as filling it with .exe's
[08:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: any apt-get ?
[08:19] <ladydoor> silent_scream: what's the difference?
[08:19] <eyequeue> silent_scream, mv things from ~/Desktop to ~/
[08:19] <bulldog_> anyone know a good way to convert m4a to mp3 or a plugin for rythmbox to play m4a's?
[08:19] <JAnderson> ok i got a cd today and tried to install but noting seems to happen it seems to be stuck at [unistalling linux....OK loading Kurnal]  am i doing some thing wrong???
[08:19] <JAnderson> any ideas anyone???
[08:19] <Angeltronix> I have a question: is it safe to use a linux partition manager (gparted, etc.) to modify a disk with many NTFS partitions (2 or more)?
[08:19] <ladydoor> bulldog_: just a sec.
[08:19] <hawaisurf> Jack_Sparrow: how? with a disk formating all the hardrive
[08:20] <nickspoon> zaggynl: click a file of the type you want to associate with mplayer, then go file->properties and choose "Open With", then select mplayer from the list.
[08:20] <bulldog_> thanks ladydoor
[08:20] <Xtremer> good night everybody :D
  well when i do apt-get install <app>  it downloads and installs perfect but then it begins the flashplugin-nonfree download again
[08:20] <Lard-O-Lad> bulldog_: JHymn i think it was called, but i couldnt get it to work... last i know, password protected m4as cant be converted in linux
[08:20] <Jack_Sparrow> hawaisurf: How did you install Skype?  NOt Ubuntu
[08:20] <Xtremer> automatix ? :)
[08:20] <strangy> !linux-vserver
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-vserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <Bonez56> hi, can someone please help me with this flash-nonfree error I am getting? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24266
[08:20] <silent_scream> sorry my mistake ladydoor, i must do this for every .exe file??
[08:21] <eyequeue> Lard-O-Lad, what is that?  passworded music?
[08:21] <JAnderson> can someone help with an install prob???
[08:21] <flicovent> hawaisurf: You can install skype on Ubuntu, I have done although ekigaphone is a better option.
[08:21] <boink> sure, just ask.
[08:21] <Bonez56> JAnderson, what program?
[08:21] <bulldog_> Lard-O-Lad: bugger, I didn't care for BMP at all, some have done so with scripts or claim to
[08:21] <difeta> does anybody know of a group policy solution that runs on linux?
[08:21] <eyequeue> JAnderson, ask it
[08:21] <JAnderson> ok i got a cd today and tried to install but noting seems to happen it seems to be stuck at [unistalling linux....OK loading Kurnal]  am i doing some thing wrong???
[08:21] <nickspoon> Paddy_EIRE: flashplugin-nonfree doesn't work atm.
[08:21] <ladydoor> silent_scream: hmmm, there could be an easier way to do it. how many are there? you do know linux has good programs too, right?
[08:21] <Bonez56> Does anyone know how to join an Ubuntu computer to a windows domain?
[08:21] <Angeltronix> no, Create new partitions in Ext3, reiser, etc. with those NTFS's in an extended partition.
[08:21] <nickspoon> Paddy_EIRE: I mean the update of course.
[08:21] <hawaisurf> jack_sparrow: ahaaa from applications....but I have this problem with all applications I run not just skype
[08:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Xtremer: That would be my guess as well...
 well it asks each time man
[08:22] <chrishoeppner> is the root account disabled in ubuntu desktop?
[08:22] <flicovent> Sorry, Ekiga Softphone
[08:22] <JAnderson> ubuntu
[08:22] <boink> !tell chrishoepnner about su
[08:22] <eyequeue> ChickenTalons,  yes please see the url the bot gives you
[08:22] <Lard-O-Lad> eyequeue: when you get stuff from the itunes music store it gives you music that is encoded
[08:22] <eyequeue> !root > chrishoeppner
[08:22] <boink> !tell chrishoeppner about su
[08:22] <hawaisurf> flicovent: ok but I have this problem with all applications I run....i wrote skype just as an example..
[08:22] <ChickenTalons> yes?
[08:22] <Bonez56> hi, can someone please help me with this flash-nonfree error I am getting? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24266
[08:22] <ChickenTalons> what did I do?
[08:22] <silent_scream> yeah ladydoor  the only .exe i have is utorrent for now... :D anyway you are the best
[08:23] <eyequeue> Lard-O-Lad, i wonder why people tolerate that
[08:23] <Lard-O-Lad> eyequeue: got me
[08:23] <Jack_Sparrow> hawaisurf: Would you please post your sources list to the pastebin.. not in the channel..  gedit  /etc/apt/sources.lis
[08:23] <flicovent> hawaisurf: fair enough, all your applications you say?!?
 annoying aint it
[08:23] <ladydoor> silent_scream: i wouldn't go that far...but thanks. hope it helps
 u are not alone
[08:23] <Bonez56> Paddy_EIRE, do you have the same problem?
[08:23] <JAnderson> any ideas???
[08:23] <Paddy_EIRE> yep
[08:23] <chrishoeppner> lol. thx guys
[08:23] <hawaisurf> flicovent: yes ALL
[08:23] <Tokenbad> phaedrus44, back
[08:23] <Toaster> Anyone that can help me out here? I want to disable that when I use alt+tab to switch between programs I have to press "Enter/Return" to confirm. That's really annoying:/ This is compiz btw
[08:23] <Bonez56> Paddy_EIRE, does anyone know about it (ie, developers?)
[08:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: HAve you tried synaptic...
[08:23] <ladydoor> bulldog_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24268 will give you what you need to put in the script ~/bin/m4a2wav
[08:23] <linux1> anybody know how to get vmware player working after the last kernel update it got hosed
[08:23] <C-O-L-T> I use Banshee as my audio management tool, but I have a problem with it, it does not displays all my songs rhythmbox displays all to me but I prefer Banshee. Any opinion?
 lol....no actually
[08:24] <Jack_Sparrow> hawaisurf: Would you please post your sources list to the pastebin.. not in the channel..  gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:24] <ladydoor> bulldog_: and then just install lame, use it to encode the .wav's to mp3, and then you're set!
 gonna do that now
[08:24] <flicovent> hawaisurf:try reinstalling?
[08:24] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[08:24] <Lard-O-Lad> Toaster: not sure what you mean, i dont have to press enter...
[08:24] <Lam_> i'm trying to access multiple directories and remove Thumbs.db from each of them. is there any way i can go about accomplishing that?
 try using synaptic
[08:24] <Bonez56> Paddy_EIRE, ok :)
[08:24] <ladydoor> bulldog_: though ogg is actually a better format and doesn't have any nasty legal issues involved with it
[08:24] <boink> is there an ubuntu .deb for lame?
[08:24] <bulldog_> sweet thanks Ladydoor you rock :-)
[08:24] <hawaisurf> flicovent: nope but I will do soon I guess..
[08:24] <silent_scream> ladydoor, is there anyway to execute the script directly when i double click on it? i mean not t ask me things etc... :D
[08:24] <ladydoor> bulldog_: thanks muchly. glad to help
[08:25] <linux1> the latest kernel upgrade hosed my vmware player, anyone know how to get it working again?
[08:25] <Toaster> Lard-O-Lad, well..I do :P I followed this guide: http://knowledge76.com/index.php/XGL/Compiz_Nvidia_32bit
[08:25] <ladydoor> silent_scream: oh...is it asking you thing? weird. what's it asking you?
[08:25] <JAnderson> is there another way of insatlling instead of booting from cd???
[08:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: I didnt try the hosed one, I just knew how to get the one I linked..  I also dont know how to keep apt from trying to hose you again.
[08:25] <bulldog_> will use ogg then
[08:25] <bulldog_> goodday all
[08:25] <hawaisurf> jack_sparrow: my ubuntu knowledge is really low but you want me to list the file sources.list?
[08:25] <boink> you can paste it, but not here
[08:25] <boink> !paste
[08:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:25] <eyequeue> JAnderson, do you have a debian-based os in place already?
[08:25] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: I wouldnt mind learning that one
[08:26] <JAnderson> i dont think so win xp is on the computer
[08:26] <Bonez56> Paddy_EIRE, doesn't work :( E: flashplugin-nonfree: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[08:26] <Samuli^> Bonez56, same here.
[08:26] <eyequeue> JAnderson, no then, i don't think so
[08:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: There is a remove- or purge command to do it but I am not a cli guy..
[08:26] <silent_scream> ladydoor, i mean not to ask me if i want to execute it or just to display it or cancel etc...
[08:26] <Bonez56> Samuli^, I wonder if anyone actually is aware of it.
[08:26] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_S
[08:26] <Angeltronix> is it safe to create new partitions in Ext3, reiser, etc. format in a HDD with 2 or more NTFS's partitions with data on it?   I'll do it using gparted
[08:26] <Samuli^> Bonez56, and for quite a few other's too. So think they are.
[08:26] <ladydoor> silent_scream: hmmm...is there a "do this every time" option in the dialog box?
[08:26] <JAnderson> what needs to be done to put it on???
[08:26] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: gonna try a thing i found
[08:26] <C-O-L-T> I use Banshee as my audio management tool, but I have a problem with it, it does not displays all my songs rhythmbox displays all to me but I prefer Banshee. Any opinion?
[08:27] <JAnderson> if there is a way
[08:27] <Bonez56> Samuli^, cool, that's the main thing. Hopefully a fix will be released soon :)
[08:27] <hawaisurf> Jack_Sparrow: ok I listed what you told me...
[08:27] <silent_scream> ladydoor, nope
[08:27] <ladydoor> silent_scream: otherwise, you might try clicking on the execute it option, close it, and then try again
[08:27] <ladydoor> :-/
[08:27] <Jack_Sparrow> hawaisurf: It should have given you a link# to post here..
[08:27] <laddercoins_> Byes
[08:27] <Samuli^> Bonez56, yeah, you could rollback for the older package for now.
[08:27] <boink> !easy-source
[08:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easy-source - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource
[08:27] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:27] <boink> aaah, ta
[08:27] <ladydoor> silent_scream: hmmm...i'm sorry, i don't know--i don't use gnome
[08:27] <Paddy_EIRE> Bonez56: will get back to u in a sec
[08:28] <bruno> hello everybody
[08:28] <eyequeue> Angeltronix, all those fs's are safe and won't hurt any other partitions
[08:28] <hawaisurf> Jack_Sparrow: well I have like four links....should I go there?
[08:28] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: perhaps that link u gave me earlier might help Bonez56
[08:28] <Bob535> Is there a way (and a tutorial) on how to get either quicktime or wmv embeded in webpages to work under ubuntu?
[08:28] <bruno> did one of you ever succeed to use dual screen with an i915 chipset ?
[08:28] <Jack_Sparrow> paddy yes it would
[08:29] <Jack_Sparrow> hawaisurf: When you post to the pastebin... you should have a link to what you posted...
[08:29] <silent_scream> ok thnx for all
[08:29] <blacktiger> hey
[08:29] <Jack_Sparrow> hawaisurf: something like this    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24268
[08:30] <Bob535> !video
[08:30] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[08:30] <Bob535> !quicktime
[08:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:30] <hawaisurf> Jack_Sparrow...Ok I check it now..
[08:30] <kjm_> is there a way to fully remove xfce-desktop and reinstall fresh?
[08:30] <kjm_> I have no access to a window manager right now - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24267
[08:30] <kjm_> happened after installing xffm
[08:31] <blacktiger> could somebody help me with setting up wlan, with a am1772 chipset
[08:31] <boink> !wifi
[08:31] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:32] <blacktiger> everything works but when i insert the card i think 2 modules wants to handle it
[08:32] <chrishoeppner> anyone about rar archives?
[08:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !rar
[08:32] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:32] <hawaisurf> Jack_Sparrow: ok there I have two small rutines....should I execute dem?
[08:32] <Samuli^> kjm_ do you mean you want to reinstall xubuntu-desktop?
[08:32] <blacktiger> boink that doesnt help me.... looked everywhere in the forum and doks
[08:32] <boink> and is the chip set supported in the linux kernel?
[08:32] <chrishoeppner> I have installed unrar-free, but it's not able to handle my rar archive. seems like it's rar3
[08:32] <Jack_Sparrow> hawaisurf: I have no idea what you are doing...  Please read instructions on how to use the pastebin.
[08:32] <boink> what does ifconfig say?
[08:33] <Samuli^> kjm_, you might want to try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg before you reinstall the whole thing by: sudo apt-get install --reinstall xubuntu-desktop
[08:33] <JAnderson> is it poss to install version6.06 LTS on a machine with win xp home edition
[08:33] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[08:33] <blacktiger> i dont know, but when i use ndiswrapper its intalled and the hardware is found
[08:33] <hawaisurf> Jack_Sparrow: ok!
[08:33] <JAnderson> how do i go about it??
[08:34] <blacktiger> just look on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=262060 for more info
[08:34] <yaman> hello every one
[08:34] <Jack_Sparrow> JAnderson: create unallocated space on your hard drive and install ubuntu..
[08:34] <engie> Ohh dear. Apparantly I'm banned from #ubuntu+1 (according to Gaim). This makes me sad.
[08:34] <JAnderson> i am not to sure how to??
[08:34] <SimonAnibal-Work> boy I'm getting a lot of "Could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade" errors in Synaptic while following Community Ubuntu Documentations
[08:34] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: sry man I cant find that link in my history...if it easily accessible to u could u give it to Bonez56
[08:35] <kintaro0e> hello everyone..need advice on ssl cert..how can i make one?if i already made one..where can i check it?
[08:35] <SimonAnibal-Work> Lots of unresolvable dependencies
[08:35] <Jack_Sparrow> http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/08/install-mozilla-flash-plugin-in-ubuntu.html
[08:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: 10 lashes
[08:35] <JAnderson> will that link do??
[08:35] <Paddy_EIRE> sry man] 
[08:35] <yaman> please guys i can't make my sound card in my laptop(asus A6r) - atiixp work i did download the alsa and install it and i did update the kernel header i did every thing but no sound come from the speaker do any one know what should i do
[08:35] <yaman> ?
[08:36] <Jack_Sparrow> SimonAnibal-Work: I must ask... Have you run scripts like Automatix, (NOT recommending that you do.) to install anything?
[08:36] <Paddy_EIRE> Bonez56: try this http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/08/install-mozilla-flash-plugin-in-ubuntu.html
[08:36] <InsydeH2O> hi folks.
[08:36] <ivan-m> hi everybody, I'm looking for some help with WPA in a fresh 6.06 installation
[08:36] <voraistos> yaman: are u sure everythings plugged properly ?
 how do i go about that???
[08:36] <SimonAnibal-Work> Jack_Sparrow: No I've not, last time I did, it crashed webpages with flash content. I started from scratch using the Ubuntu Community Documentation and I simply can't install the packages it says I should.
[08:37] <Jack_Sparrow> JAnderson: Run the live cd and make sure it works ok.. click on install
[08:37] <yaman> yeah i am sure and the speaker is in the task bar this happend on ubuntu and knoppix
[08:37] <yaman> it;'s working on windows but not on linux
[08:37] <dougalater> im getting this error when i try to get flash plugins   E: flashplugin-nonfree: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[08:37] <sportillo_> hola
[08:37] <Jack_Sparrow> SimonAnibal-Work: Did you do a full reinstall after you tried it ?
[08:37] <JAnderson> have done but seems to stop at uninstalling linux.....ok booting kernal then noting?????
[08:37] <dougalater> what can i do
[08:37] <JAnderson> thats booting from cd now
[08:38] <SimonAnibal-Work> Jack_Sparrow: Nodnod, full reinstall just this morning, the only other things I've done since the full reinstall was install aiglx+compiz
[08:38] <ivan-m> Can anybody tell me where can I configure WPA? I'm using Ubuntu 6.06, and Network Manager only shows WEP encryption for my wireless card (ipw220)
[08:38] <voraistos> SimonAnibal-Work : do u mean that it cant find the files in the repos ?
[08:38] <eyequeue> dougalater, /var/llib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.postinst
[08:39] <Jack_Sparrow> SimonAnibal-Work: You might have better luck in that channel.... if all you did was freash install and compiz
[08:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !xgl
[08:39] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:39] <Bonez56> Paddy_EIRE, thanks
[08:39] <eyequeue> dougalater, run lines for there with sudo, until you find the bad one, then report a bug
[08:39] <eyequeue> !bugs > dougalater
[08:39] <blacktiger> ndiswrapper (KeCancelTimer:711): invalid wrap_timer --> What does this mean, I think this one part of a problem I have...
[08:39] <dougalater> fukles
[08:39] <Jack_Sparrow> SimonAnibal-Work: You can post your sources.list to the pastebin and I can look at it..
[08:39] <kjm> Samuli^ - thanks for the try, but still having issues.
[08:39] <dougalater> how will i know its bad?
[08:40] <Paddy_EIRE> Bonez56: thank Jack_Sparrow hes the man
[08:40] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[08:40] <JAnderson> well any ideas <Jack_Sparrow>????
[08:40] <Bonez56> Jack_Sparrow, thanks for the link :D
[08:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Bonez56: Sure, I do all the work and you thak Patty  :)
[08:40] <Bonez56> Jack_Sparrow, rofl, sorry, didn't realise :)
[08:40] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos, Jack_Sparrow: e.g. I'm trying to install totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin and I get "Could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade" The following packages have unresolvable dependencies. Make sure that all required repositories are added and enabled in the preferences. totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin: Depends: totem-gstreamer (=1.4.1-0ubuntu4) but 1.4.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[08:40] <C-O-L-T> I use Banshee as my audio management tool, but I have a problem with it, it does not displays all my songs rhythmbox displays all to me but I prefer Banshee. Any opinion?
[08:40] <Jack_Sparrow> JAnderson: Thinking...
[08:40] <JAnderson> ok sorry :)
[08:40] <Samuli^> kjm, I thought about it and I don't think reinstalling xubuntu-desktop with apt-get is going to reinstall it's depencies.
[08:40] <SimonAnibal-Work> Jack_Sparrow: pastebin?
[08:40] <yaman> well is there some thing i can try to do not alsa some thing else to make my ati sound card work on the ubuntu ?
[08:40] <dougalater> sudo: /var/llib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.postinst: command not found
[08:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !pastebin
[08:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:41] <blacktiger> somebody... ndiswrapper (KeCancelTimer:711): invalid wrap_timer --> What does this mean, I think this one part of a problem I have...
[08:41] <Blob> Hi all -- trying to compile wine on ubuntu dapper for amd64 -- I get message "unable to find source for wine"  on  "apt-get build-dep wine" command.  What must I do?
[08:41] <Jack_Sparrow> SimonAnibal-Work: gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:41] <yaman> well is there some thing i can try to do not alsa some thing else to make my ati sound card work on the ubuntu ?
[08:41] <SimonAnibal-Work> Jack_Sparrow: You beat me to it :)
[08:41] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[08:42] <Samuli^> kjm, maybe with aptitude it will, you could try that. Otherwise you just need to remove --purge some elementary library-package or something like that and then install it again.
[08:42] <yaman> lease some one help well is there some thing i can try to do not alsa some thing else to make my ati sound card work on the ubuntu ?
[08:42] <SimonAnibal-Work> Jack_Sparrow: pasted
[08:43] <Samuli^> blob, there isn't 64bit wine.
[08:43] <Jack_Sparrow> JAnderson: I'm a little preoccupied atm... I have some work to get done (They pay me)  and I just want to finish up a couple of other quesions I had working..
[08:43] <Jack_Sparrow> SimonAnibal-Work:  I need the number...
[08:43] <kjm> Samuli^ - ok, I shall give that a go.
[08:44] <SimonAnibal-Work> Jack_Sparrow 24269
[08:44] <Jack_Sparrow> SimonAnibal-Work:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24267  something like this
[08:44] <Toaster> what do I need to install to get alsaconf?
[08:44] <JAnderson> ok ill call back later and if your about i might wreck your brain  for a few :)
[08:44] <C-O-L-T> who uses Banshee?
[08:44] <yaman> do any one have a tutoruial for installing soud drivers on the ubuntu ?
[08:45] <abeehc> dude
[08:45] <kjm> !alsa
[08:45] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:45] <voraistos> SimonAnibal-Work : sorry to be late, do u have totem-xine installed ?
[08:46] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos: nope, fresh install
[08:46] <Jack_Sparrow> SimonAnibal-Work: that looks clean...
[08:46] <voraistos> SimonAnibal-Work : do you have access to synaptic ?
[08:46] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos: It's what I'm using
[08:46] <SimonAnibal-Work> Jack_Sparrow: That makes me feel better :) I suppose
[08:47] <kjm> Samuli^ - I'm trying reinstall again.  Will check it out in nested session and let you know.
[08:47] <voraistos> SimonAnibal-Work : go to the repositories section
[08:47] <Jack_Sparrow> People, I need to get going, I have several hours of work to do if I am going to install this hardware tomorrow... Play nice...
[08:47] <SimonAnibal-Work> there
[08:47] <Jack_Sparrow> SimonAnibal-Work: :)
[08:47] <SimonAnibal-Work> Jack_Sparrow Have a great day, Cap'n, and thanks for your attention!
[08:47] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[08:47] <dougalater> im having flash problems
[08:48] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos I'm there
[08:48] <voraistos> remove everything
[08:48] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos done
[08:48] <voraistos> SimonAnibal-Work : did you do that in synaptic ?
[08:48] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos nodnodnod
[08:49] <voraistos> ok, u add all the repos manually now
[08:49] <^Ocean^> okay, so my sound card just gave up the ghost... and im lookin at buying a new one.   Whats best for ubuntu support ? reccomendations
[08:50] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos done, reloaded, and...hey, it works now
[08:50] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos very strange, as I'd reloaded it several times before
[08:50] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos Nevertheless, I appreciate your patient attention
[08:50] <voraistos> SimonAnibal-Work : you have done that quick !
[08:50] <Toaster> what do I need to install to get alsaconf?
[08:50] <voraistos> SimonAnibal-Work : are you sure youve done all the repos ?
[08:51] <cRiM|> ok got a question, everytime i install ubuntu.. and restart.. it gives me error 16 at the grub loader.. why would that be?
[08:51] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos Yeah, Synaptic is pretty easy like that
[08:51] <ryanoz> #join ubuntu-offtopic
[08:51] <voraistos> SimonAnibal-Work : dont forget scurity updates etc, and the dev so u can compile stuff later on
[08:52] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos yeap, e'er'thing
[08:52] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos I wasn't kidding
[08:52] <Vanique> NthDegree: Available ? vegot an IT issue
[08:52] <Vanique> ;] 
[08:52] <b1_xt> Hi
[08:52] <cRiM|> or not =/
[08:52] <voraistos> SimonAnibal-Work : nice its working ubuntu is pretty crappy sometimes, dunno why, need fixes
[08:53] <cRiM|> anyone know why i get error 16 after i install ubuntu.. its a fresh install
[08:53] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos Was it maybe adding the repository to get the aiglx+compiz stuff that gave it Alzheimer's?
[08:53] <b1_xt> I ve got a problem. I can play video, but there's no sound.
[08:54] <Answer> Hello.  I am trying to read and write to serial port /dev/ttyS3 in Ubuntu6.06 and I do not get any errors but I do not get any return from the serial port.  Does anybody have expertise with ubuntu serial ports?
[08:54] <voraistos> SimonAnibal-Work : dont think so. i had this trouble doing nothing before.People just told me i was a poor noob
[08:55] <Pierre> eyequeue, systemrescuecd works out of the box, fixed (mysql did nasty things in etc nodes...
[08:55] <Pierre> eyequeue, thx for the help
[08:55] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos I'm certainly a noob to some
[08:55] <voraistos> SimonAnibal-Work : im not good enough to report bugs yet i think, but there are a few things that make me want to go back to my debian darling
[08:55] <eyequeue> Pierre, no problem, glad to hear it is working now
[08:56] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos Ubuntu is my first taste of Linux
[08:56] <jikuty> woohooo :D i just got some ubuntu discs in the mail... and they came with kickass stickers.
[08:56] <voraistos> SimonAnibal-Work : thats a good thing, its quite easy of use
[08:56] <jikuty> my case is proudly displaying the Ubuntu logo now.
[08:56] <SimonAnibal-Work> jikuty Didn't they? I was pretty happy with that, too
[08:56] <jikuty> I'm VERY impressed.
[08:56] <jikuty> im gonna distribute these to anyone unsatisfied with windows :D
[08:57] <cRiM|> anyone know how to fix the error 16 on a fresh install of ubuntu
[08:57] <cRiM|> ?
[08:57] <voraistos> jikuty thats not enough: you have to give them to peoplewho think they are satisfied with windows.
[08:57] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos It's a good place to learn, and it was easy to setup the labs quickly (I'm in charge of supporting 9 Linux classrooms in the high school I work at as technology assistant, we're one of the school that got the ACCESS Indiana grants but our corporate IT department washed its hands of supporting us)
[08:58] <jikuty> voraistos: good point
[08:58] <jikuty> a friend of mine already has requested one
[08:58] <jikuty> has already*
[08:58] <Zebraphp> Hello
[08:58] <Zebraphp> Can someone please dierct me to the Live Cd downlaod page?
[08:59] <Pierre> Zebraphp, you are not good to read the manual, are you? ;-)
[08:59] <voraistos> SimonAnibal-Work : sounds cool. So people will not be wasted learning how to crash windows :)
[08:59] <Toaster> how do I get "alsaconf" ???
[08:59] <Zebraphp> heh, you're everywhere :)
[08:59] <cRiM|> voraistos: do you know how to fix a error 16.. i just installed ubuntu.. yet it gives me an error 16..
[08:59] <^Ocean^> okay, so my sound card just gave up the ghost... and im lookin at buying a new one.   Whats best for ubuntu support ? reccomendations ?
[08:59] <Zuu> wheres the user folders created in ubuntu ?
[09:00] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos So far they're blaming all the problems on Linux and asking "Why can't we use Windows?" I'm hoping to change that with a major upgrade to the image when Edgy comes out
[09:00] <voraistos> cRiM| please be more precise... i am not on the dev team ;)
[09:00] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos And aiglx+compiz is part of that plan
[09:00] <osten> uh-oh.. I have a big problem
[09:00] <Zebraphp> I just want to check it out.. so I perfer the link over erading he maual :)
[09:00] <Zebraphp> link anyone?
[09:00] <Angeltronix> hola sportillo_ que quieres saber?
[09:00] <b1_xt> Can anyone help me? I don't know what to do to enable sound in videos. I think i need some codecs, but i dunno what ones!
[09:00] <voraistos> SimonAnibal-Work : thats gonna be good. they are gonna be pissed off: they wanted to buy Macs ;) :) lol
[09:00] <cRiM|> voraistos: ok i just installed ubuntu.. i restart.. and it gets to the grub loader.. it says error 16.. filesystem error
[09:00] <osten> I can't use my ctrl button
[09:00] <Rondom> !restricedformats
[09:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restricedformats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:01] <Pierre> Zebraphp, http://releases.ubuntu.com/dapper/
[09:01] <Zebraphp> thanks
[09:01] <SimonAnibal-Work> voraistos Naw, the State gave us money specifically for Linux boxes
[09:01] <osten> whenever I hold it down I get this fh87Q
[09:01] <voraistos> cRiM| did u actually format ? how, etc ?
[09:01] <cRiM|> i used the installer.. i formatted the whole drive.. and it wrote new partitions on it
[09:02] <Zebraphp> Are you suer that's live cd?
[09:02] <Zebraphp> I do nto want to install i on HD
[09:02] <Zebraphp> just run it from CD
[09:02] <Blob> Samuli^, there is no ready package, but it supposedly can be compiled (at least according to winehq)  I'm trying to follow those instructions
[09:02] <voraistos> very strange. i am sorry i cant help on that. u might want to reinstall. i dunno how to check and repair that
[09:02] <Pierre> Zebraphp, the install cd is the livecd, the first boot option is to start it, the install is done by clicking the install icon on the desktop
[09:02] <b1_xt> Zebraphp, it is both a LiveCD and install
[09:03] <Zebraphp> ooh.. I see now
[09:03] <Zebraphp> thanks gentlemen!
[09:03] <bsdfox> how easy is it to install ubuntu on a portable usb hard drive (2.5") that will boot?
[09:03] <bsdfox> I've done it with knoppix before
[09:03] <voraistos> Zuu /home
[09:03] <armand> hi, i just installed ubuntu 6.06.1...whenever i try to do something in the gui that requires root it says "wrong password" when i type in my password into the password dialog... this is a fresh install, not sure what happened
[09:04] <Zuu> voraistos, Goodie :)
[09:04] <armand> i can su to root fine in a terminal window
[09:04] <chrishoeppner> is there any good ftp app in the repos?
[09:04] <jrib> armand: go to applications > accessories > terminal and type 'sudo echo hi' without quotes.  What does it return?
[09:04] <armand> password prompt, and none of the passwords i set work.  root, or my user that was created at install
[09:04] <knurg> Boot problem; MBR was deleted and Grub is gone. How do I boot my ubuntu? Could i use install-cd with F6 and some parameters? If so, how? Thanks
[09:05] <armand> i tried sudo passwd root as root and set that password, but that doesnt work either
[09:05] <jrib> armand: no, you shouldn't need to set a root password.  It is asking for your user password.  What does the command 'groups' return?
[09:05] <Zuu> voraistos, Thanks btw :)
[09:05] <armand> the user is in both adm and admin, and adm and admin are both in /etc/sudoers
[09:06] <flicovent> Cya, cheers for your help with the G3. We'll just try another disk. :) :(
[09:06] <armand> (i put adm there myself just to try for some odd reason)
[09:07] <armand> hrmph
[09:07] <armand> it was something in Defaults
[09:07] <armand> i commented out defaults and now sudo's working
[09:07] <armand> lets see...
[09:07] <kasia> #misiekkasia
[09:07] <kasia> # misiekkasia
[09:08] <armand> tty_tickets in Defaults in /etc/sudoers is what was causeing it
[09:08] <armand> i have no idea what that does heh, buit i'll checkout the manpage for a little knowledge
[09:08] <armand> welp, thanks
[09:08] <armand> lateron
[09:08] <armand> !
[09:11] <eugman> I could use more information for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CliDesktop so I can work on making it a good article.
[09:11] <ladydoor> eugman: what do you need?
[09:11] <cbx33> I have just got a 4200 X2 proc, do I have to do anything to a default dapper to make best use of it ?
[09:11] <silikon> Hey folks, anybody have any luck getting a Linksys WPC53G v2 running on 6.06?  I'm using ndiswrapper - systems sees card but I can't establish a connection with my access point...
[09:11] <variant> Package sun-j2sdk1.5 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:11] <variant> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:11] <variant> is only available from another source
[09:11] <variant> how can i fix that?
[09:11] <eugman> ladydoor, my knowledge of command line programs and how to manage a machine via shell is limited.
[09:11] <jrib> variant: do you have dapper multiverse in your sources.list?
[09:11] <gnomefreak> variant: install sun-java5-sdk
[09:11] <kasia> join #misiekkasia
[09:12] <ladydoor> eugman: if i may ask, then, why does this article fall to you?
[09:12] <Cafer> What does ubuntu desktop have that ubuntu server doesn't?
[09:12] <variant> jrib: yeah
[09:12] <gnomefreak> Cafer: gui
[09:12] <eugman> For example I have no idea if printing is possible from the command line.
[09:12] <jrib> variant: what arch are you using?
[09:12] <Cafer> Would desktop run ok on a P3 400Mhz?
[09:12] <Cafer> 256mb of ram
[09:12] <gnomefreak> Cafer: yes
[09:12] <variant> jrib: x86
[09:12] <eugman> ladydoor, because I made it. So that it would exist and so I could learn more.
[09:12] <Cafer> Or would it be quite slow gnome?
[09:12] <gnomefreak> Cafer: i ran fine on a P2 400mhz 512 ram
[09:12] <kjm> Samuli^ : Me again.  Thanks for the tips.  aptitude remove --purge didn't work, but apt-get remove --purge did...very strange.  But, all is well :)
[09:13] <Cafer> Ah ok
[09:13] <jrib> variant: ok, you are sure you have dapper multiverse?  not just dapper-backports multiverse?
[09:13] <gnomefreak> Cafer: not really as slow as you think
[09:13] <Cafer> Did you tweak it at all
[09:13] <gnomefreak> Cafer: but not _fast_
[09:13] <variant> Cafer: use xfce4.. its simmilar looking and feel to gnome but much much much faster
[09:13] <variant> jrib: will check
[09:13] <gnomefreak> Cafer: not speed wise no
[09:13] <eugman> ladydoor, from what i could find there was no article covering this so i made one and hoped I could get people to extend it past what I know.
[09:13] <Cafer> Ah okay variant, so should I get server then install xfce4?
[09:13] <ladydoor> eugman: cool beans. how do i get on this boat?
[09:13] <variant> Cafer: if your using server why do you want a desktop at all?
[09:14] <variant> Cafer: get desktop xubuntu
[09:14] <jrib> variant: oh, I see the problem.  The package name is
[09:14] <Samuli^> kjm, yeah, I don't think there's --purge option for aptitude.. just purge instead remove. man aptitude to see if I'm right :)
[09:14] <boabsta> hi all, i just updated ubuntu last week and since i've rebooted all the fonts are really, really small. Anyone know how to fix this?
[09:14] <jrib> variant: sun-java5-jdk
[09:14] <Cafer> Ah thank you variant
[09:14] <Cafer> One more thing
[09:14] <variant> jrib: yeah, but installing other programs calls that.. i didnt enter it manual
[09:14] <variant> Cafer: np
[09:14] <jrib> variant: ah... what package?
[09:14] <eugman> ladydoor, mainly by adding sections and programs. I can still sort things out and try to format it but I need information first.
[09:14] <kjm> Samuli^ - yes, it was aptitude purge <foo> that I tried - still no joy.  But, apt-get remove --purge did the trick.
[09:14] <Cafer> If I ran this machine headless, and ran a VNC program, would I be able to view it with a VNC viewer on my XP box?
[09:14] <variant> jrib: audacity
[09:15] <variant> Cafer: yeah
[09:15] <ladydoor> eugman: just a sec
[09:15] <Cafer> Would I need samba or anything
[09:15] <kjm> Cafer : yes, absolutly
[09:15] <variant> Cafer: if your using headless why do you want a desktop at all? much easyer without xserver or gnome or anything.. more secure too
[09:15] <recon0> What program should I run/compile a ".bas" file with?
[09:15] <Samuli^> kjm, ok. That's odd.
[09:15] <boabsta> does anyone know what to do when all the fonts are suddenly really small?
[09:16] <Cafer> Well, I wanted to use it for torrenting mainly.
[09:16] <jpjacobs> Cafer, you'd be better off with Xforwarding over ssh ;)
[09:16] <kalif> recon0: try "file filename.bas"
[09:16] <radial> is someone working fixing the flashplugin-nonfree update issue?
[09:16] <variant> Cafer: there is command line torrent clients/server
[09:16] <kjm> Samuli^ - yup :).  But, oh well.  Tried both, and even a 50 % hit rate repaired the problem.
[09:16] <boabsta> Cafer: you can get a torrent with a web WUI somewhere
[09:16] <eugman> Does anyone know if you can print pdf's by terminal?
[09:16] <boabsta> Cafer: cant remember the name of it
[09:16] <recon0> kalif: it's in ASCII text.
[09:16] <Samuli^> kjm, all is well then :)
[09:16] <jrib> variant: this is audacity from dapper repos?
[09:16] <recon0> it's in some sort of BASIC language, though.
[09:17] <variant> jrib: edgy
[09:17] <amorfo> Cafer, you can try installing torrentflux, it's web driven and you don't need X, very cool
[09:17] <Subhuman> boabsta, utorrent
[09:17] <SatanGolga> what burning application is recommended?
[09:17] <Subhuman> it runs in wine
[09:17] <kalif> recon0: what is the first line?
[09:17] <variant> SatanGolga: cdrecord
[09:17] <jrib> variant: #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[09:17] <Subhuman> not sure about the web frontend working though
[09:17] <variant> SatanGolga: or if you like a guy k3b owns
[09:17] <recon0> kalif: :10 DIM D(5),K1(8),K2(8),K3(8),S(8,8),Q(8,10),D$(5)"
[09:17] <kalif> ehhhh
[09:17] <Cafer> amorfo: when you say web driven, would I control it from another box?
[09:17] <SatanGolga> ok, thanks!
[09:18] <variant> Cafer: yeah
[09:18] <amorfo> yes Cafer
[09:18] <recon0> kalif: it's in a BASIC language from what I recognize.
[09:18] <Answer> Is there some daemon that starts up and takes over the serial ports?  Maybe to init a mouse or something?
[09:18] <kalif> recon0: looks some sort of output from some other program
[09:18] <boabsta> recon0: try REALbasic :)
[09:18] <Cafer> Ah thanks ever so much for your help, guys
[09:18] <amorfo> check it out Cafer: http://www.torrentflux.com/
[09:18] <recon0> kalif: no, it's BASIC.
[09:18] <kalif> ok
[09:19] <recon0> kalif: now, to find an interpreter!
[09:19] <boabsta> recon0: try REALbasic :)
[09:19] <cbx33> is there a way to confirm that my processor is running dual core as it should?
[09:19] <recon0> boabsta: it seems like I have to pay for it.
[09:19] <boabsta> oh though tit was free - sorry
[09:19] <boabsta> *thought it :/
[09:20] <jpjacobs> cbx33, less /proc/cpuinfo should show 2 procs
[09:20] <eugman> Hey is there a way to give a wav file a title so that it will be burnt with that title?
[09:20] <cbx33> jpjacobs, no I only see one
[09:20] <Zuu> err... i just installed ubuntu, and it hawe now come to my attention, that i didnt actually supplyed a root pass anywhere
[09:20] <boabsta> so does anyone know why all my fonts (even the logon manager) are tiny now?
[09:20] <boabsta> Zuu: no need in Ubuntu
[09:21] <cbx33> jpjacobs, what am I doing wrong?
[09:21] <boabsta> Zuu: root is disabled by default
[09:21] <Shish> Zuu: ubuntu avoids the root account; everything is done with sudo and your regular password
[09:21] <eyequeue> !root > Zuu
[09:21] <Zuu> w000t
[09:21] <afief> Hello everybody, i installed ubuntu on my home computer for my family to try it, but made the partition too small(3GB only) now everytime i try to login gnome gives me an error about diskspace. how can i solve this?
[09:21] <Zuu> totally confusing
[09:21] <eyequeue> Zuu, root is bad, but see the url from ubotu
[09:21] <jpjacobs> cbx33, atlest i thought it was that way...
[09:21] <jikuty> afief: youd probably have to repartition to allow more space?
[09:22] <Zuu> :/ ahh i have disabled pms
[09:22] <jpjacobs> cbx33, second, i'll see on some server...
[09:22] <afief> jikuty: isn't there a way to solve it without repartitioning?
[09:22] <Cafer> What's a nice VNC server that'd be compatible with ubuntu?
[09:22] <Cafer> Nevermind
[09:22] <jikuty> hm, there might be
[09:22] <jikuty> im not sure :D
[09:22] <cbx33> jpjacobs, thanks
[09:22] <cbx33> this is a stock dapper install
[09:22] <cbx33> do I need to install the SMP kernel?
[09:22] <jikuty> someone in here is bound to know the answer :)
[09:22] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone know when an update will be release to fix the flashplugin-nonfree bug ppl seem to be having
[09:22] <recon0> it's 42
[09:23] <jpjacobs> cbx33, i was right, here on a 4 proc machine it shows 4cpu's in /proc/cpuinfo
[09:23] <cbx33> jpjacobs, did you install the SMP kernel
[09:23] <Zuu> well... err. cant i make a regular root user then ?
[09:23] <jpjacobs> cbx33, indeed you need SMP to use the 2procs
[09:23] <cbx33> how easy is that
[09:23] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: yes you can
[09:23] <jpjacobs> cbx33, it's not my machine ;)
[09:23] <cbx33> *bah*
[09:23] <cbx33> hehe
[09:23] <cbx33> ;)
[09:24] <afief> jikuty: i was thinking about moving a directory like /bin to a seperate partition and then mount it automagically everytime the kernel boots
[09:24] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: although I dont know why you'd need it with sudo
[09:24] <Zuu> Paddy_EIRE, cool.. one that works like in many other linuxes :)
wont really be the same you will probably have to fix many permissions yourself
[09:24] <Zuu> Paddy_EIRE, i like the idea of beiing able to log in like 'root' when i need to do a lot of installing ans stuff like that
[09:24] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: thats why sudo is so handy
[09:25] <afief> zuu why don't you just use sudo -i?
[09:25] <knurg> Boot problem; MBR was deleted and Grub is gone. How do I boot my ubuntu? Could i use install-cd with F6 and some parameters to boot the kernel on hdd?
[09:25] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: not a smart idea
[09:25] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: 1 sec ill get you the guide
[09:25] <Zuu> afief, that like a globalising of root permissions ?
[09:25] <Zuu> this is soo confusing to me :S
[09:25] <zekery234> ubuntu rocks!
[09:25] <engie> Hi. I have, apparantly, been banned from o#ubuntu+1. How do I go about figuring out why, and how to get this lifted?
[09:26] <albacker> is edgy somewhere near to stable, or i should wait til the final day ?
[09:26] <afief> zuu, like you'll have a terminal window in which you are root, but the other stuff is not affected. when you are done being root, just close the window
[09:26] <jrib> engie: #ubuntu-ops
[09:26] <Zuu> afief, sur
[09:26] <Zuu> e
[09:26] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-31053.html Should work with dapper aswell
[09:26] <Zuu> but i want to 'log in' as root, before i start the gui and everythibng
[09:27] <radial> Zuu, very bad idea.
[09:27] <afief> Zuu, i came from fedora and was used to my root account, but nowaday i prefer being a normal user for everything but installations
[09:27] <Zuu> radial, not imho
[09:27] <Zuu> :)
[09:27] <Zuu> afief, exactly!
[09:27] <Paddy_EIRE> radial: he doesnt seem understand the benefits of sudo
[09:27] <radial> Zuu, you're welcome to destroy your machine. That doesn't make it a good idea in anyone's opinion :-)
[09:28] <Zuu> im sure that sudo is not much different than su in suse
[09:28] <afief> Zuu, installations aren't so complicated that they need a seperate login;)
[09:28] <ProN00b> blargh when i enable dual screen i can only select 50hz refresh rate
[09:28] <ProN00b> (instead of the usual 60)
[09:28] <Zuu> afief, you dont understand..
[09:28] <jikuty> what's wrong with logging in as a root though?
[09:28] <jikuty> if he wants to do it, he should be able to
[09:28] <H4ns> hi.  what is the easiest way to enable nat on an ubuntu system?  i have an external ethernet interface as well as an internal one and i want the internal hosts be able to use the external connection.  i am used to the shell, but if there is a "click and reboot" way, i'd prefer that.
[09:28] <jikuty> without everyone glaring at him :p
[09:28] <ProN00b> how can i force it to use same refresh rate as with single screen ?
[09:28] <nickspoon> he can, just "sudo su" :)
[09:28] <Zuu> this is not just about one install once in a while.. this is like install mania
[09:28] <Zuu> hehe
[09:28] <afief> jikuty: he got the ability to do it, but it's not a good thing
[09:28] <chillmode> how come i cant find vlc  (videolan)on the Synaptic Package Manager.. I selected every box in "Repositories"
[09:29] <jikuty> afief: indeed.. but, what's wrong with it for just a few hours?
[09:29] <chillmode> can some one help me
[09:29] <jikuty> i dont think he'd destroy his machine all of a sudden
[09:29] <zekery234> chill, try automatix.
[09:29] <radial> Zuu, so just use Synaptic and install everything you want. You'll only be prompted for password once. Not complicated.
[09:29] <afief> i think you can also sudo cat  /dev/zero > /dev/hdb, but who on earth would do that?
[09:29] <knurg> how does one boot ubuntu when grub is gone?
[09:29] <botchs> hi, i want to run from the command line ( as root ) the same program i click and run from the KDE menu ( like MPlayer ) but i cant seem to find the right executable. the links are in /opt but cant be run by command line . any idea how i can find the exact program ?
[09:30] <afief> jikuty: nothing is wrong, but for a few hours all you need is sudo -i
[09:30] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: this is exactly what your lookin for http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_allow_root_user_to_login_into_GNOME i'd back everything up first
[09:30] <Sakireth> Any program for working with webcams?
[09:30] <Zuu> radial, so you say.. but i know that linux almost never does as you want it to, and not all i want to install is in a fine little package
[09:30] <zekery234> chill, install automatix and install vlc using automatix.
[09:30] <chillmode> zekery234: ok.. idont know what that is but i gues i can google on it
[09:30] <TheGateKeeper> chillmode: you need universe enabled
[09:30] <chillmode> ok i see
[09:30] <zekery234> chill, there's a automatix homepage.
[09:30] <Zuu> wtf are you all on about :S
[09:30] <zekery234> chill, get the automatix, and u can install many software in a breeze.
[09:30] <chillmode> can i install automix from synaptic?
[09:31] <Zuu> backing up shit and all random useless comments
[09:31] <radial> Zuu, when you use sudo from the command line it caches your password so you don't need to enter it again for a long time. You're way too stubborn dude.
[09:31] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah
[09:31] <eyequeue> automatix is heavily discouraged chillmode
[09:31] <nickspoon> automatix is bad.
[09:31] <ladydoor> eugman: still here?
[09:31] <eyequeue> !automatix
[09:31] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[09:31] <Bonez56> i love automatix
[09:31] <chillmode> zekery234: ok thanx the help
[09:31] <afief> Zuu, if you just want to install, use synaptic, it works from a normal user too(but will ask for root password)
[09:31] <eugman> yeese
[09:31] <zekery234> :D erm... chill, there're many gurus here.
[09:31] <nickspoon> difficult to remove if it breaks.
[09:31] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: where just trying to help man...no randomness here
[09:31] <Zuu> i have the feeling that 'stubborn' means something bad.. so i guess im happy not knowing that word =)
[09:31] <zekery234> for a simpleton like me, well, i use automatix... :"D
[09:31] <Bonez56> nickspoon, never had it break on me, used it on about 15 systems so far. maybe i've been lucky :)
[09:31] <TheGateKeeper> chillmode: be warned automatrix can break your system
[09:32] <ladydoor> eugman: sweet. ok, i see you talk a lot in your intro about games. you might make a separate section for that
[09:32] <chillmode> hmm ok :D
[09:32] <Zuu> this is no constuctive conversation at all
[09:32] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: did you even look at the wiki I gave you
[09:32] <Zuu> havent had time yet. with all these ppl talking shit to me
[09:32] <cbx33> brb
[09:32] <afief> zuu, okay let's make it constructive, tell us what you want to do and we'll tell you the best way to achieve it(and if it needs root accounts so be it)
[09:32] <Zuu> Paddy_EIRE, will do tho
[09:33] <TheGateKeeper> chillmode: this might be a better bet: ----> http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[09:33] <eugman> Probably a good idea. Games are usually more of an extra.
[09:33] <ladydoor> eugman: you might make a mention of bitlbee, w3m, emacs, adding links...
[09:33] <eugman> bitlebee?
[09:33] <chillmode> TheGateKeeper: ok thanx
[09:34] <Zuu> afief, if im not answering in future, dont mind it
[09:34] <eugman> Actually I can just see what synaptic says that is
[09:34] <ladydoor> eugman: yeah, it's an im client that is multiprotocol, like gaim, & runs out of an irc client
[09:34] <eugman> ahh
[09:34] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: well you'd realise that your question has been answered and were just offering some friendly advise....sudo has good reason for being used :)
[09:34] <TheGateKeeper> chillmode: np :-) that should give you access to everything you want
[09:34] <ladydoor> eugman: you might also mention programs like mocp & pytone for playing music...
[09:34] <eugman> Thought it may have been a bittorrent client
[09:35] <radial> Zuu, using X as root is risky. You're MUCH better off using the package tools to install stuff and you'll only be prompted for a password once. If you want to be risky though, check out the howto Paddy linked.
[09:35] <ladydoor> eugman: nope! but bittornado's a good one. you might go into more detail on gnu screen, because it's *so* useful
[09:35] <eugman> Well just put all you can think of at that sorting part at the end and I'll take care of them.
[09:35] <TheGateKeeper> chillmode: probable find this usefull too: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[09:35] <BiSk-8> helllo, i would like to know what the name of the program is to download entire websites?
[09:35] <boink> curl ?
[09:35] <ladydoor> eugman: oh! i can edit it?
[09:35] <fredl> anybody happen to know how you can make xchat filter out join/parts ?
[09:35] <Zuu> radial, i have one thing to say to that.. yadda yadda yadda
[09:35] <ladydoor> eugman: i thought you wanted me to do this through you
[09:35] <eugman> Anyone can it's a wiki.
[09:35] <eugman> no no. Edit away.
[09:35] <Zuu> damn some of you are annoying
[09:35] <radial> Zuu, you needn't have said it then :-)
[09:35] <afief> okay guys i need some attention here, since i by mistake created too small a partition to serve my root filesystem i need to repartition, but could someone tell me how to backup my root?
[09:36] <bruenig> fredl, you probably have a better shot in #xchat
[09:36] <ladydoor> eugman: how do i log in? i don't have a launchpad email
[09:36] <fredl> afief - huh you can't just growfs?
[09:36] <BiSk-8> hello, i would like to know what the name of the program is to download entire websites? possibily a simple one to use?
[09:36] <bruenig> !backup
[09:36] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[09:36] <fredl> bruenig, good point.
[09:36] <Sakireth> Any program for working with webcams?
[09:36] <BiSk-8> sakireth: gqcam
[09:36] <eugman> Ladydoor, you don't need a launchpad email. Just an account. You do have a regular email right?
[09:37] <fredl> Sakireth, ekiga
[09:37] <ladydoor> eugman: sure enough
[09:37] <Zuu> Paddy_EIRE, ok i have read some of that page, i dont fully understan dit tho
[09:37] <BiSk-8> hello, i would like to know what the name of the program is to download entire websites? possibily a simple one to use?
[09:37] <recon0> Has anybody here gotten opentrek to work?
[09:37] <bruenig> BiSk-8, I think there is a firefox extension that will allow you to do that. I don't know what it is called nor have I ever used it
[09:37] <boink> curl
[09:37] <Zuu> Paddy_EIRE, but it seems like im not gonna have a 'root' user by doing that
[09:37] <boink> if curl is what you want
[09:37] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: which part you need help with
[09:37] <jrib> BiSk-8: consider httrack as well
[09:37] <BiSk-8> i once had one that was very good, bruenig, but i dont remember it
[09:37] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: you will it works...
[09:38] <Zuu> Paddy_EIRE, what i want is a user named 'root' with a different pass and everything
[09:38] <eugman> All you have to do is make a launchpad account. There should be a link somewhere on the site.
[09:38] <BiSk-8> it was httrack
[09:38] <BiSk-8> ty
[09:38] <Zuu> like im used to
[09:38] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: root will have a different pass
[09:38] <Caplain> is an amd x86 or i686?
[09:38] <nicnac> having an issue with ubuntu, when I try to build apache with the make command, it gives me the error "bash: make: command not found" anyone know how to fix or get the correct package for the make command?
[09:39] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: 1 sec, I think I know of a much more descriptive guide
[09:39] <boink> apt-get install make
[09:39] <afief> fredl: i don't know, tell me how
[09:39] <codecaine> hi how can you replace a word in a text file
[09:39] <Sakireth> Thanks.
[09:39] <erUSUL> !b-e > nicnac
[09:39] <jrib> nicnac: install build-essential, it will give you all the basic dev stuff
[09:39] <eugman> boink, can you do that? I hought you installed build-essential
[09:39] <codecaine> like if they have alot of words that say windows I want to replace them all with linux
[09:39] <ladydoor> eugman: sweet. i'll contribute as soon as i've got an account then
[09:39] <boink> ok
[09:39] <ladydoor> boink: actually, it's sudo aptitude install build-essential
[09:39] <nicnac> that worked. thank you
[09:39] <Diguinho> hi. I have files with iso-8859-1 chars. at the file name, coming from debian unstable where I used iso-8859-1. How do I get these files shown correct, with accents and etc. on gnome, terminal or even the console?
[09:40] <erUSUL> codecaine: sed -e 's/oldword/newword/' file.txt iirc
[09:40] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: there are many more things on that page related to creating a root user that can login graphically
[09:40] <boink> build-essential will install most of the stuff, that's handy
[09:40] <Renan_s2> !info nicotine
[09:40] <ubotu> nicotine: graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.8rc1-1.1 (dapper), package size 291 kB, installed size 1488 kB
[09:40] <codecaine> damn i need to learn sed its complex :)
[09:40] <boink> !build-essential
[09:40] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:40] <eugman> Ladydoor, how old are you? The only people I know who use that interjection are usually young.
[09:40] <jrib> codecaine: note that that command won't actually edit the file though (use -i or redirect the output to a file)
[09:41] <tuxtux> ciao a tutti
[09:41] <ladydoor> eugman: what interjection?
[09:41] <Zuu> Paddy_EIRE, lemme ask you something, suse does have a regular shell thingie right ?
[09:41] <eugman> Sweet.
[09:41] <ladydoor> eugman: aha. i'm young at heart
[09:41] <boink> what's a regular shell thingy?
[09:41] <Zuu> like you can boot ubuntu without even have to get to a gui
[09:41] <eugman> ah ok. I'm still young at body at this point.
[09:41] <jrib> boink: what do you mean??
[09:41] <boink> from Zuu's question
[09:42] <jrib> boink: oh :)
[09:42] <Zuu> hehe
[09:42] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: not really a suse user..but if your talking about a root terminal then yes, as does ubuntu
[09:42] <kalif> Zuu: if it can't boot into text mode it isn't linux
[09:42] <Paddy_EIRE> *agrees
[09:42] <Zuu> Paddy_EIRE, i dont really understand your answer :/
[09:42] <ladydoor> kalif: are you trying to boot to text?
[09:42] <b1_xt> how can i fix the sound playback?
[09:43] <kalif> no
[09:43] <fredl> aaaaah that makes my xchat a whole lot quiter.
[09:43] <Paddy_EIRE> k, let me get that link I have a vague idea of what you want
[09:43] <Zuu> please dont mix suse into this its confusing me
[09:43] <Zuu> hehe
[09:43] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[09:43] <Zuu> what i mean is ike runlevel 3
[09:43] <Zuu> *like
[09:44] <eyequeue> Zuu, runlevel is orrelevant in ubuntu
[09:44] <eyequeue> Zuu, 1 is default, but 2 3 4 5 all identical
[09:44] <eyequeue> Zuu, 2 is default, but 2 3 4 5 all identical
[09:44] <eyequeue> Zuu, 1 is not
[09:44] <Zuu> what ?!
[09:44] <boink> doesn't ubuntu want to change the run level stuff?
[09:44] <recon0> Does anybody know of a COBOL intperpreter/compiler for linux?
[09:44] <eyequeue> boink, no way
[09:44] <Zuu> crist this is strange
[09:45] <fredl> whats wrong with 'the runlevel stuff' ??
[09:45] <boink> I read some article about ubuntu wanting to change it
[09:45] <eyequeue> boink, why make itself incompatible with debian?
[09:45] <boink> making something like mac
[09:45] <fredl> let's make a redhat wrapper around it LOL
[09:45] <eyequeue> fredl, some how come from rpm distros don't like debian's way i guess
[09:45] <bsdfox> how easy is it to install ubuntu on a portable usb hard drive (2.5") that will boot? I've done it in knoppix before
[09:45] <Zuu> well i should have known all this before installing ubuntu :(
[09:45] <jang_> can anybody tell me how to change the paper settings (in Ubuntu 6.06) an my network printer (connected to a Kubuntu 6.06 using cups)? on the client, all settings are gray, but it uses the wrong settings.
[09:45] <eyequeue> Zuu, it is debian-based
[09:45] <Zuu> its totally destroying my lunix experience
[09:46] <eyequeue> Zuu, i would say the rpm distros did that :/
[09:46] <kalif> Zuu: Loohniks,  not lunix :)
[09:46] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: read this http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/users_in_ubuntu
[09:46] <Zuu> kalif, i like that :P
[09:46] <fredl> eyequeue, I know. LOL, I once had to interview a guy together with my manager. The guy claimed to know everything about Unix/Linux, so we asked him how he'd turn off the telnet daemon on the command line....
[09:46] <Diguinho> anybody know how to display iso-8859-1 file names correctly?
[09:46] <Zuu> kalif, actually that how i _do_ pronounce it
[09:46] <Zuu> you are just way better that writing it :P
[09:46] <Lehti> :o
[09:46] <kalif> hehe
[09:46] <eyequeue> fredl, added that extra dir in the command? ;-)
[09:46] <ProN00b> how can i find out currently used refresh modes ?
[09:47] <fredl> guy said it couldn't be done since you can't start up the runlevel editor in graphics mode!
[09:47] <eyequeue> fredl, what/??????????????????
[09:47] <fredl> eyequeue, haha, my manager stood up, shook his hand and said "next please"
[09:47] <eyequeue> fredl, and whatever would a runlevel editor have to do with it anyway, if it's running, it's already running, lol
[09:47] <Zuu> and now with ubuntu it seems that there has the be a lot more 'o' s in looooooohniks
[09:47] <knurg> Boot problem; MBR was deleted and Grub is gone. How do I boot my ubuntu? Could i use install-cd with F6 and some parameters to boot the kernel on hdd?
[09:48] <fredl> eyequeue, no sense slapping the newbies around too much, but a guy who claimed to know all about it on his resume, LOL
[09:48] <eyequeue> fredl, yeah, i'm not paying for a liar, that would be my reaction
[09:48] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: also this will allow you to set the root user password if you havent done that already "sudo passwd root"
[09:48] <Lehti> I've tried to install Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, but I get this error while installing: "This installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 on Linux / unknown" Can somebody help me :)
[09:48] <Zuu> Paddy_EIRE, cool
[09:49] <osten> Hello
[09:49] <eyequeue> Paddy_EIRE, please do NOT advise that in here, send them to the factiod only
[09:49] <Paddy_EIRE> nice one :)
[09:49] <osten> I have a grave problem
[09:49] <fredl> eyequeue, you'd be surprised how many people get away with lying about their resume.
[09:49] <eyequeue> Zuu, bad advice btw, quite bad
[09:49] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[09:49] <ProN00b> can anyone help me with my dual screen setup problems ?
[09:49] <eyequeue> !root
[09:49] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:49] <RedRose> how do I change my hostname in the CLI?
[09:49] <ph8> hostname <hostname>
[09:49] <kalif> hostname newhostname
[09:49] <eyequeue> RedRose, /etc/hostname ?
[09:49] <Paddy_EIRE> eyequeue: it was the inevitable answer...but sry couldnt let him suffer
[09:49] <Zuu> erhm.. how do i even open a shell in ubuntu ?..
[09:49] <codecaine> what wrong with this command
[09:50] <eugman> ph8, it always surprises me in linux when I asked how to do something and the command I want is what I said.
[09:50] <jrib> RedRose: /etc/hostname and update /etc/hosts as well
[09:50] <eyequeue> Paddy_EIRE, if someone wants to be stupid, they can decide that after reading the page though, not on your conscience
[09:50] <codecaine> cat myfile | sed 's:codecaine:linux'
[09:50] <Zuu> haha there is no way to start a shell
[09:50] <ph8> eugman: It has something to do with linux not being windows... :)
[09:50] <Paddy_EIRE> eyequeue: I understand, k
[09:50] <RedRose> I did that, then I reboot and it's back to the olf one
[09:50] <jrib> codecaine: useless use of cat?
[09:50] <eugman> zuu, Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[09:50] <ph8> RedRose: changed /etc/hsotname?
[09:50] <ph8> * hostname
[09:51] <eyequeue> Zuu, this is linux?  and you can't start a shell?
[09:51] <codecaine> I wanted to manipulate the output of the cat
[09:51] <ph8> fgrep your init scripts to see if the hostname's being changed strangely
[09:51] <osten> I got a bizarre keyboard problem
[09:51] <Zuu> eugman, ok they really did hide it well in ubuntu :)
[09:51] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: Applications > Accessories > Terminal :)
[09:51] <jrib> codecaine: sed 's:foo:bar:'
[09:51] <eyequeue> eugman, i think it's elsewhere in edgy from dapper btw
[09:51] <jrib> codecaine: notice the terminating :
[09:51] <eugman> Zuu, i went into shortcuts or whatever and now windows key and shift together opens up a terminal. Really handy.
[09:51] <eyequeue> eugman, system > something
[09:51] <osten> left ctrl and numpad return both don't give their own keycodes but spamms random other keycodes on the keyboard
[09:52] <codecaine> ah thanks
[09:52] <daxxar> Im trying to boot a machine over PXE and mount / via NFS. I've gotten the booting and halfways teh mounting to work. (I've followed parts of http://blog.katipo.co.nz/?p=19)
[09:52] <eugman> eyequeue, thanks for the heads up.
[09:52] <daxxar> The problem is that the machine can't change *any* files on /
[09:52] <oculto_> hi
[09:52] <eugman> hi
[09:52] <daxxar> Just gives a 'permission denied', though the nfs-export it's using is exported using (rw)-option.
[09:52] <Zuu> eugman, yeah.. ill eventually get there at some point too.. i just never have used ubuntu ever before.. pretty strange to me
[09:52] <eyequeue> osten, in edgy?  mod5    in dapper, ctrl though
[09:52] <oculto_> I have a question
[09:52] <daxxar> Anyone have any suggestions?
[09:52] <osten> even if I just tap left ctrl fast it has time to spam like 34 random keys like "home" "delete" "Q" etc
[09:52] <kalif> daxxar: is your nfs-setup correct?
[09:52] <daxxar> kalif, I don't know, but I hope so. :P
[09:53] <osten> what is edgy?
[09:53] <hexxa_> Hello i need help to install my webcam
[09:53] <eyequeue> osten, this is the dapper channel, #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[09:53] <codecaine> another question say theres alot of files that have codecaine in it with words attached to it how can I make it so it just grab the words that have codecaine not editing theones that have letters attached to it
[09:53] <oculto_> kalif, u A tem som de U?
[09:53] <eyequeue> !edgy
[09:53] <hexxa_> Logitech QuickCam Sphere
[09:53] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:53] <daxxar> kalif, this is my line: /var/media-root 192.168.0.17(rw,sync)
[09:53] <Paddy_EIRE> !edgy
[09:53] <kalif> what's in /etc/exports
[09:53] <Hirsty> greetings...
[09:53] <eugman> Zuu, it didn't take me to long to get comforatable with it despite never using linux before. The hard part is getting the propietary stuff set up.
[09:53] <chillmode> (/j irssi
[09:53] <chillmode> oj :D
[09:53] <kalif> daxxar: looks ok
[09:53] <chillmode> oops* :D
[09:53] <osten> I have 6.06 LTS
[09:54] <Hirsty> does anyone know how to get lexmark printers working in dapper?
[09:54] <oculto_> osten levado na bunda
[09:54] <kalif> oculto_: jeg fatter intet
[09:54] <Hirsty> (in english)
[09:54] <eugman> Hirsty, I do not. Have you seached the forums?
[09:54] <jrib> codecaine: you need to read a regex tutorial, I think \bfoo\b will work \b is for word boundary
[09:54] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: this page is worth a read aswell https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:54] <Zuu> eugman, wel the thing is that im used to suse
[09:54] <osten> oculto_: I didn't understand that :)
[09:54] <Hirsty> for a while, yes...
[09:54] <eyequeue> !es > oculto_
[09:54] <codecaine> where can I find this regex tutorial
[09:54] <Utopiate> Anyone know how to make GAIM auto nick serv identify on connect?
[09:54] <Hirsty> nevermind, I'll just get a new one
[09:55] <Zuu> eugman, so i have all these other ways that i thought all linuxes some what had in common
[09:55] <Hirsty> It'son the blink anywho's
[09:55] <kalif> daxxar: can't you test NFS from another machine?
[09:55] <Zuu> and now that is totally ruined :(
[09:55] <eugman> Zuu so what is your reason for switching?
[09:55] <eyequeue> Utopiate, it's not really an irc client, for decent features use xchat or irssi or such
[09:55] <osten> eyequeue: I'm using ubuntu 6.06 LTS, is that edgy?
[09:55] <boink> that's dapper
[09:55] <eyequeue> Utopiate, can it /msg on connect though?
[09:55] <daxxar> kalif, i'll try
[09:55] <boink> dapper is the latest stable release
[09:55] <ladydoor> osten: that's dapper
[09:55] <Zuu> eugman, because everyone told me that ubuntu is better than everything
[09:55] <eyequeue> osten, no, that one is safe :)  dapper
[09:55] <eugman> Osten, edgy is the next version which is in devlopment.
[09:56] <boink> !dapper
[09:56] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[09:56] <jrib> codecaine: google, I don't know of any off the top of my head.  There is always 'man 7 regex'
[09:56] <Zuu> bunch of crapheads
[09:56] <Zuu> hehe
[09:56] <Zuu> they never tryed anything else i think
[09:56] <Zuu> :)
[09:56] <eyequeue> !language
[09:56] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:56] <eyequeue> Zuu, ^
[09:56] <Zuu> eyequeue, sry
[09:56] <eugman> Zuu, Well it certainly does a good job of impressing someone new to all this.
[09:56] <eyequeue> Zuu, and please turn on your msg, support in here uses the bot heavily
[09:57] <Zuu> uhm
[09:57] <Zuu> how many bots are there ?
[09:57] <osten> Hehe, so any idea why my left ctrl and numpad enter are so weird?
[09:57] <eyequeue> ubotu and Ubugtu and perhaps one other i can't recall
[09:57] <ubotu> and: Auto Nice Daemon. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2.1-2 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 124 kB
[09:58] <eyequeue> ubotu, hush! lol
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hush! lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <Zuu> well.. ubotu wil get whitelisted
[09:58] <Zuu> if it doesnt behave worse than i :P
[09:58] <eyequeue> Zuu, in this cannel, Ubugtu is not used much, but in the other #ubuntu-* channels more
[09:59] <Zuu> ok.. ubotu should be able to get my attention now :)
[09:59] <Ishmael> Hi, I have two questions regarding fstab: very strange thing happend today that the name of my win-partition changed, just by magic. I haven't touch fstab at all, just did defragmentation in windows. Beside that, usual linux partition check occured (30th boot)
[10:00] <osten> when I press either left_ctrl or numpad_enter they spam 100 other random keycodes
[10:00] <po8freak> does anyone here know what package contains the zlib libraries? * configure: error:
[10:00] <po8freak>  * NOTE: The zlib compression library version 1.1.4 or greater was not found
[10:00] <po8freak>  * on your system
[10:01] <Ishmael> Name of the win-partition was '/media/hda1', and now some strange character: 
[10:01] <krazykit> po8freak: are you compiling something?
[10:02] <eyequeue> po8freak, ii  zlib1g         1.2.3-6ubuntu4 compression library - runtime
[10:02] <lupine_85> "configure" suggests so
[10:02] <lupine_85> !zlib1g-dev
[10:02] <Ishmael> Does anyone know why? And, beside that, how to remove icon of that partition from desktop, and leave it just in 'Places'
[10:02] <po8freak> yeah Apollon
[10:02] <ubotu> zlib1g-dev: compression library - development. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.2.3-6ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 395 kB, installed size 576 kB
[10:02] <eyequeue> po8freak, zlib1g-dev then
[10:02] <krazykit> lupine_85: quiet you.
[10:02] <kalif> !apt-file
[10:02] <ubotu> apt-file is a program that can tell you in which package you can find the files you look for. sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update
[10:02] <quiet> ?
[10:02] <lupine_85> mwahaha
[10:02] <quiet> oh
[10:02] <Caplain> how often is the kernel updated?
[10:02] <lupine_85> my ubotu-fu is great today
[10:02] <tesoro> :)
[10:02] <eyequeue> Caplain, when security holes are plugged
[10:02] <Zuu> Paddy_EIRE, thanks :)
[10:02] <krazykit> lupine_85: is that like kung-fu?
[10:03] <lupine_85> 2.6.18 has been released, me hearties
[10:03] <lupine_85> but not for Ubuntu :)
[10:03] <Zuu> for all your help ;)
[10:03] <eyequeue> Caplain, twice a day, once a decade, lol
[10:03] <krazykit> lupine_85: as have con kolivas's excellent patchset
[10:03] <ph8> has anyone here ever patched the kernel with grsec?
[10:03] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: no probs...you should really read this it might be very useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:03] <Caplain> ahhh cause it seems too frequent
[10:03] <ph8> i'm not a sudo advocate tbh
[10:03] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: Good luck :)
[10:03] <ph8> it's good for users who don't know what's going on
[10:03] <eyequeue> Caplain, too many holes discovered :(
[10:03] <ph8> i tend to sudo su - and set a root password first thing :)
[10:03] <lupine_85> the ABI updates are annoying
[10:03] <daxxar> If I want a nice 'automatically started' UI, what should I look at? (I don't need a big feature-full WM, just something simple, and I need a displaymanager that autostarts it, and something that does *not* require a login)
[10:04] <lupine_85> xubuntu? :)
[10:04] <Zuu> Paddy_EIRE, hehe i have that page open like 8 times by now
[10:04] <eyequeue> ph8, very very frowned upon in here, thanks
[10:04] <Paddy_EIRE> Zuu: lol...no probs
[10:04] <Caplain> eyequeue: well every time i use a new kernel i have to recompile the modules for vmware...and its annoying
[10:04] <Caplain> oh and i ahve to edit the grub menu file too
[10:04] <daxxar> lupine_85, was that for me?
[10:04] <krazykit> daxxar: xfce, part of xubuntu-desktop is full featured yet light.  other light choices include fluxbox and windowmaker
[10:04] <lupine_85> daxxar: yes
[10:04] <Pup> hi, im thinking about trying to set up this MythTV thing on an ubuntu box.  It says I should use XFS since it creates such large files, but my whole hard disk is EXT3 right now.  Can I shrink the EXT3 partition somehow and change some of it to XFS, or would I have to reformat the whole drive?
[10:04] <lupine_85> fvwm is also quite good
[10:04] <eyequeue> daxxar, ubuntu will, just configure an autologin user
[10:04] <daxxar> lupine_85, I already have an ubuntu system up and running
[10:04] <krazykit> Caplain: grub can automagically do it if you use make-kpkg
[10:04] <ph8> eyequeue: Does Ubuntu document that out of interest? I was speaking to people today who had no idea why they couldn't su when they installed ubuntu
[10:05] <eyequeue> Caplain, gotcha
[10:05] <lupine_85> daxxar: then install xubuntu-desktop
[10:05] <Ishmael> None knows? None to help?
[10:05] <eyequeue> !rootsudo > ph8
[10:05] <eugman> !patience
[10:05] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:05] <eyequeue> ph8, there
[10:05] <ph8> ty
[10:05] <ph8> Ishmael: what did it change from/to?
[10:05] <daxxar> lupine_85, I don't need any desktop-tools except the x and the wm as of yet. It's going to be a pure "media center", so stuff like abiword etc is a bit bloat.
[10:05] <eyequeue> ph8, it's also what we send to those who ask :)
[10:05] <lupine_85> forgot what it is, though!
[10:05] <ph8> lupine_85: shh, it's naughty to talk about it!
[10:05] <ph8> :)
[10:06] <eyequeue> ph8, if they want to break their box after reading, we dind't advise it :)
[10:06] <zekery234> anyone gain spiritual insight while using ubuntu? :P
[10:06] <Ishmael> ph8: The name of win-partition, from 'media/hda1' to ''
[10:06] <lupine_85> daxxar: then just install xfce
[10:06] <ph8> every day zekery234
[10:06] <zekery234> keke... :D
[10:06] <eyequeue> zekery234, apt-get install sword, they say
[10:06] <kalif> lupine_85: boot into single user mode with a defunkt /home, sudo wont work :)
[10:06] <eyequeue> !info sword
[10:06] <lupine_85> it'll pull in some unwanted deps automagically, but you can remove them
[10:06] <ubotu> Package sword does not exist in any distro I know
[10:07] <ph8> Ishmael: pastebin the output of 'mount' when it's mounted?
[10:07] <lupine_85> change the hostname, sudo doesn't work
[10:07] <eyequeue> !info ksword
[10:07] <ubotu> Package ksword does not exist in any distro I know
[10:07] <lupine_85> mess up the system clock, sudo doesn't work
[10:07] <zekery234> eyequeue... whats 'sword'?
[10:07] <teenprogrammer> hi
[10:07] <lupine_85> break the permissions, it doesn't work
[10:07] <Paddy_EIRE> zekery234: i have found levels of patients that i never knew I had,
[10:07] <lupine_85> etc...
[10:07] <lupine_85> zekery234: bible program :(
[10:07] <krazykit> zekery234: seems to be a bible study thing
[10:07] <Chousuke> lupine_85: The question: Why would you mess with those things+
[10:07] <ph8> lol lupine
[10:07] <eyequeue> zekery234, something that christian ubuntu has in it, i think it's a bible app
[10:07] <zekery234> oh.
[10:07] <ph8> Chousuke: no one necessarily sets out to do these things... :)
[10:08] <ph8> What's different in ChUbuntu?
[10:08] <lupine_85> Go with the true linux spirit - why do you think we have configuration 'druids'? ;)
[10:08] <kalif> lupine_85: have someone stupid with sudo rights edit /etc/sudoers directly....
[10:08] <ph8> Choo-bunutu even
[10:08] <Chousuke> ph8: They don't break by themselves. :)
[10:08] <maurodafnis> Is there a way to run KDE under the root account ?
[10:08] <Ishmael> ph8: I am not sure that I know how to do that.
[10:08] <ph8> Ishmael: Go to a command prompt and type 'mount'
[10:08] <krazykit> maurodafnis: bad idea.  don't do that.
[10:08] <zekery234> ic... erm.. i am more towards eastern religion... buddhism and taoism those thing....
[10:08] <ph8> then goto a pastebin like pastebin.com
[10:08] <ph8> and copy/paste the output into there
[10:08] <ph8> !pastebin
[10:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:08] <eyequeue> maurodafnis, you do not want to do that, it's VERY not safe code for that
[10:08] <lupine_85> see, the sort of root abuse maurodafnis is asking about is a bad idea
[10:08] <teenprogrammer> I had a question
[10:08] <ph8> that one ^
[10:08] <eyequeue> !root > maurodafnis
[10:08] <maurodafnis> I can't deny it's a bad idea but it will save me many hours ^^
[10:08] <ph8> !fakeroot
[10:08] <ubotu> fakeroot: Gives a fake root environment. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.6ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 91 kB, installed size 376 kB
[10:09] <lupine_85> having a root password is positively safe ;)
[10:09] <ph8> that might help you maurodafnis ^
[10:09] <^Ocean^> god dam, what kinda video card to i need to run compiz ?
[10:09] <ph8> i'll tunnel it next time
[10:09] <Paddy_EIRE> eyequeue: it seems ppl are eager to wreck there install
[10:09] <Ishmael> ph8: Here it is: /dev/hda2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[10:09] <Ishmael> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[10:09] <Ishmael> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw)
[10:09] <Ishmael> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw)
[10:09] <Ishmael> procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[10:09] <ph8> ^Ocean^: A good, well supported one methinks
[10:09] <maurodafnis> hmmm it wont help me either
[10:09] <Ishmael> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw)
[10:09] <Ishmael> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[10:09] <Ishmael> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[10:09] <lupine_85> maurodafnis: more likely, you just want to use konqueror to do file operations as root...
[10:09] <ph8> !pasting > Ishmael
[10:09] <Ishmael> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pasting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <Ishmael> binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
[10:09] <lupine_85> ...so do so
[10:09] <Ishmael> /dev/hda1 on /media/hda1 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[10:09] <ph8> screw you then ubotu :)
[10:09] <eyequeue> Paddy_EIRE, yeah, scary huh, something as huge as kde
[10:09] <maurodafnis> more likely not
[10:09] <lupine_85> !pastebin
[10:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:09] <maurodafnis> but it's not the case
[10:09] <Chousuke> maurodafnis: why would it help you?
[10:09] <ph8> Ishmael: please use a pastebin next time, big pastes in channel are dirty
[10:09] <Chousuke> running as root is stupid
[10:09] <^Ocean^> im thinkin about upgradein my video card...  nothing too fancy  but i wanna be able to run compiz and shit
[10:09] <maurodafnis> the question is how i can let root login as if it was a user account
[10:10] <ph8> so Ishmael /media/hda1 is your windows partition?
[10:10] <lupine_85> running as root "can be" stupid
[10:10] <Ishmael> Sorry! I am really trying!
[10:10] <lupine_85> IIRC KDE defaults to not allowing root log in
[10:10] <Ishmael> ph8: Yes it is
[10:10] <ph8> the question therefore is, where are you seeing the name represented as <square thing>?
[10:10] <eyequeue> maurodafnis, why would you want such a thing?  READ what the bot sent you btw
[10:10] <krazykit> ^Ocean^: then buy an nvidia card
[10:10] <eyequeue> !root > maurodafnis
[10:10] <Paddy_EIRE> eyequeue: ppl coming from rpm based distros aint keen on debian or sudo for that matter I dont get it
[10:10] <^Ocean^> krazykit, I plan on it :D
[10:10] <maurodafnis> damn ...
[10:10] <teenprogrammer> I have a PC with Windows and Linux, both on seperate HDD. My Windows can run COD2 ( 3D game ) yet linux breaks when i launch the Screensaver O_O
[10:10] <^Ocean^> I got a Geforece2 right now, but it just wont do it lol...
[10:10] <lupine_85> you "can" change it, in some obscure configuration file somewhere, but I don't remember the excact details
[10:10] <Chousuke> IMO doing anything as root is stupid, but sometimes it's unavoidable. :D
[10:10] <maurodafnis> what the bot sent me will not solve my problem :/
[10:11] <lupine_85> then explain the problem...
[10:11] <krazykit> teenprogrammer: you likely don't have the proprietary video drivers.
[10:11] <ph8> teenprogrammer: Sounds like you haven't set your 3dcard up properly
[10:11] <eyequeue> maurodafnis, you didnot read the url apparently then, goodbye!
[10:11] <lupine_85> what on earth are you trying to do?
[10:11] <Chousuke> maurodafnis: What is your problem?
[10:11] <teenprogrammer> oh, well. this is like my first time REally using linux
[10:11] <daxxar> Anyone know of a simple menu-generation framework or program? I basically just need a fullscreen program with menus that can be operated using lirc and / or a keyboard. The menus should do simple things like browse files and launch programs.
[10:11] <teenprogrammer> other than for a server
[10:11] <teenprogrammer> so . . . XD
[10:11] <eyequeue> lupine_85, something the !root page won't tell him?  lol, yeah right
[10:11] <ph8> teenprogrammer: Hop into a command prompt and apt-cache search nvidia
[10:11] <maurodafnis> ...
[10:11] <ladydoor> lupine_85: quotes are not a means of providing emphasis. sorry to be the grammar queen, but there you go.
[10:11] <ph8> and a search of the wiki for the same (nvidia) should turn up some useful results!
[10:11] <maurodafnis> this is quite amusing
[10:11] <eyequeue> Chousuke, he wants to autologin as root
[10:11] <ph8> assuming you have an nvidia card..
[10:11] <ph8> getting confused :p
[10:11] <Ishmael> ph8: Can I do something to give you enough info?
[10:11] <MooseMorals> So why *is* running as root bad? (And please don't just say 'security')
[10:12] <Chousuke> MooseMorals: Security :P
[10:12] <maurodafnis> everything you have said so far is irrelevant to the question I asked in the beginning
[10:12] <ph8> That's the reason!
[10:12] <lupine_85> ladydoor: indeed. they're a means of providing quotes
[10:12] <eyequeue> !root > MooseMorals
[10:12] <^Ocean^> MooseMorals, because you can accidently trash ur system
[10:12] <ph8> That's a good enough reason not to run things as root
[10:12] <kalif> daxxar: a full WM or just something to generate menues?
[10:12] <maurodafnis> I know running KDE as root is stupid
[10:12] <maurodafnis> I know that for security reasong you never do that
[10:12] <Paddy_EIRE> then why
[10:12] <marcin_ant> hi guys
[10:12] <eyequeue> ^Ocean^, worse, your box can attack OURS :(
[10:12] <ph8> that's why Microsoft Vista has finally started having 'limited' accounts everywhere and asking especially to do administrator functions (remind anyone of ubuntu?) - they've just figured out administrators everywhere is a bad idea
[10:12] <ph8> in linux, there's only one administrator -> root
[10:12] <krazykit> MooseMorals: bad code, danger of rm'ing your system, etc
[10:12] <teenprogrammer> I downloaded some Drivers, i think they may help. but they are .run files and i have no clue what the heck that means O_O
[10:12] <marcin_ant> I would like to ask if is there some kind of web based administration panel for ubuntu?
[10:12] <daxxar> kalif, not menus like "office -> abiword" etc, but more like "audio" "video" "images", etc. Not a WM, but a program that'll display a certain list of choices and perhaps a background-image & logo and such.
[10:12] <pettern> my controller changed adress from /dev/sda to /dev/sdc any way to change in ubuntu so i dont have to reinstall
[10:13] <lupine_85> maurodafnis: I answered the question ^up there^, but if you want to have a better solution, explain your issue
[10:13] <Chousuke> You do not run as root. If you need to run as root, then you need to consider whether doing what you're about to do is necessary. Only then do you use root
[10:13] <ph8> marcin_ant: Administration of what particular aspect?
[10:13] <MooseMorals> but that assumes that I'm an idiot, and I'm not
[10:13] <ladydoor> maurodafnis: if you want to run as root in a graphikal environment, you should log in as a regular user, open a terminal, set the root password, su to root, and keep root *in a terminal* where it belongs
[10:13] <krazykit> teenprogrammer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:13] <kalif> daxxar: hmmm
[10:13] <^Ocean^> teenprogrammer, chmod 777 file.run  ./run
[10:13] <jmartini> ph8: technically that uid=0 not root
[10:13] <habeeb> Greetings, can you propose me a partition scheme for 80gb disk. Which will include /usr, /, /home, /bin ? :/
[10:13] <maurodafnis> ...
[10:13] <ph8> teenprogrammer: generally: chmod +x file.run && ./file.run
[10:13] <eyequeue> marcin_ant, i know webadmin is dropped, i think such is highly deprecated these days
[10:13] <habeeb> I'm kinda confused.
[10:13] <maurodafnis> Yes i can but I dont want to do that for the last time please ...
[10:13] <jrib> MooseMorals: it's not really bad, it's fine if you know what you are doing.  I think sudo is better though since you can setup up different levels of access to admin stuff using it.  It also tends to make sure you don't just login as root and forget about it
[10:13] <maurodafnis> I want KDE to run under root
[10:13] <marcin_ant> ph8: well for various aspect - something simmilar to webmin
[10:13] <eyequeue> ladydoor, why not sudo -i instead?
[10:13] <ph8> MooseMorals: Security vulns that you don't know about
[10:13] <Chousuke> maurodafnis: We're not going to give you a gun to shoot yourself with.
[10:13] <teenprogrammer> Thank you
[10:13] <ph8> say in KDE
[10:14] <ph8> if you're foolish enough to run it as root
[10:14] <Chousuke> maurodafnis: get it yourself.
[10:14] <caras> timisoara
[10:14] <ladydoor> eyequeue: um...because i like su better?
[10:14] <ph8> if someone exploits it on your system they've got root access instead of just al ocal user
[10:14] <marcin_ant> ph8: web based admin panel for servers etc.
[10:14] <eyequeue> maurodafnis, you are not going to get handheld help to subvert ubuntu security in #ubuntu
[10:14] <MooseMorals> ph8: but there a vurabilites that will promote a local account to a root accont
[10:14] <ph8> marcin_ant: I've used webmin before, it's free - not sure if ubuntu packages it
[10:14] <maurodafnis> ...
[10:14] <lupine_85>  maurodafnis: read up
[10:14] <lupine_85> as in, ^ up there ^
[10:14] <lupine_85> I CBA researching the exact config file for you though
[10:14] <ph8> there are RPMs etc you can convert though
[10:14] <Zuu> does ubuntu have some kind of control panel ?
[10:14] <ph8> it's quite good
[10:14] <maurodafnis> I only have 1 question then
[10:14] <ph8> there are various pay ones like Cpanel
[10:14] <lupine_85> ph8: they dropped it
[10:14] <lupine_85> !webmin
[10:14] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[10:14] <ph8> oh
[10:14] <ph8> :s
[10:14] <eyequeue> ladydoor, but you know ubuntu policy about sudo i'm sure
[10:14] <ph8> what happened there?
[10:14] <lupine_85> I mean... what?
[10:14] <Ishmael> ph8: Sorry, I can wait patiently, and I know you are busy, but do you know the cure for my problem?
[10:15] <lupine_85> since when did a distribution tell you not to use a particular piece of software?!
[10:15] <ph8> MooseMorals: Yes but why increase your exposure for no identifiable advantage?
[10:15] <ladydoor> eyequeue: of course. however, if someone is dead set on su'ing to root...i fail to see the problem. personally, i use both
[10:15] <kalif> Ishmael: your paste got lost
[10:15] <magnet> Ishmael: for cures, see #hospital :)
[10:15] <eyequeue> ladydoor, i meant for him, not you btw, heh  anyone can do what they like on their own machine, heheh
[10:15] <noriega> hey!
[10:15] <kalif> use pastebin
[10:15] <MooseMorals> jrib, thanks for an non-knee jerk response
[10:15] <ph8> i asked a followup question Ishmael
[10:15] <marcin_ant> ph8: it doesn't and this is why I ask here if is there some alternative or is ther any particular reason why this software is dropped/unpackaged?
[10:15] <ladydoor> eyequeue: aha
[10:15] <maurodafnis> Why can't you simply answer my first question ? I know the alternatives, i know the security problems , but your solutions justdoesnt suit me
[10:15] <ph8> Ishmael: the question therefore is, where are you seeing the name represented as <square thing>?
[10:15] <Chousuke> lupine_85: it can make recommendations.
[10:15] <maurodafnis> i didnt ask for an alternative
[10:15] <ladydoor> eyequeue: the thing is this person is asking about logging in as root, right?
[10:15] <Ishmael> Yes
[10:15] <magnet> maurodafnis: what's your question?
[10:15] <Chousuke> maurodafnis: So you can not come here when you break your system
[10:15] <maurodafnis> i asked whether it can be done like other distros
[10:15] <ph8> marcin_ant: If you want it you could *rebellious suggestion* install it from source
[10:16] <ph8> or convert the RPMs to .debs
[10:16] <kalif> maurodafnis: what's your question?
[10:16] <ph8> and install it that way
[10:16] <Ishmael> On the desktop, under the icon
[10:16] <marcin_ant> lupine_85: do you know why webmin is dropped?
[10:16] <maurodafnis> if i break my system or not it is my problem isnt it ?
[10:16] <ph8> or install rpm
[10:16] <ph8> then webmin can auto-update
[10:16] <magnet> maurodafnis: what can be done like in other distros? :)
[10:16] <maurodafnis> my question is : how can i run KDE as root
[10:16] <eyequeue> ladydoor, you, um
[10:16] <ph8> i would find out why it was dropped first, it's probably in the wiki
[10:16] <lupine_85>  MAURODAFNIS: you got the answer to that earlier. The answer is yes. Now go do it
[10:16] <noriega> If I want to move my /home to a partition/disk of its own, could I simply do a cp /home/ /target-disk/ and then mount it with the mount point /home through fstab ?
[10:16] <habeeb> I had some problems with Ubuntu at first and I forced rebooted (with the button in the tower) 5-6 times. Would a fresh format be better?
[10:16] <ladydoor> eyequeue: i um?
[10:16] <ph8> Ishmael: What happens if you unmount it/remount it?
[10:16] <ph8> If the same thing happens It's a problem with the drive label
[10:16] <magnet> maurodafnis: hu; well set a password for root, and there you go; but as I'm sure everyone told you, it's bad
[10:16] <Ishmael> ph8: Wait ... I shall try
[10:16] <maurodafnis> magnet : in other distros you can login and run x-windows as root
[10:16] <ph8> and you need to change it in windows (or can you do it from linux anyone? you must be able to but i don't know how)
[10:16] <don_jr> How do I use chmod to make a folder mine and the files within it executable?
[10:16] <lupine_85> noriega: cp -a and you're there
[10:16] <teenprogrammer> Thanks!!! Its working i believe
[10:16] <mdasilva_> how can i change the location of my repository mirror?
[10:16] <lupine_85> marcin_ant: no idea, sorry
[10:16] <mdasilva_> the CA ones SUCK
[10:16] <maurodafnis> i have already set a password for root
[10:16] <lupine_85> mdasilva_: change ca. to <whatever>.
[10:17] <magnet> maurodafnis: if you don't know how to do it by yourself, you certainly shouldn't
[10:17] <mdasilva_> for the stats
[10:17] <mdasilva_> states
[10:17] <lupine_85> us.
[10:17] <mdasilva_> is it "us" or blank
[10:17] <Chousuke> maurodafnis: Just get this: Running KDE as root is mind-bogglingly stupid. :P
[10:17] <mdasilva_> ok u the man thx
[10:17] <maurodafnis> but it wont allow me to login as root
[10:17] <ph8> don_jr: sudo chown yourusername.yourgroup /path/to/folder && chmod -R +x /path/to/folder/*
[10:17] <teenprogrammer> bye
[10:17] <kalif> maurodafnis: give root a password, and make sure root is allowed to log in thru KDM (you'll have to RTFM here - but it's easy in GDM)
[10:17] <jrib> maurodafnis: google for ubuntu login kde root and click on the first link
[10:17] <ph8> assuming you want public executable
[10:17] <Gizmo_the_Great1> i have set up a shared folder on 'box1' and my windows xp laptop can see and access the folder. but how do i get my other linux laptop to see the shared folder on box1?
[10:17] <Ishmael> ph8: It went-out, and came-back with the same strange letter
[10:17] <Paddy_EIRE> maurodafnis : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:17] <pettern> my controller changed adress from /dev/sda to /dev/sdc any way to change in ubuntu so i dont have to reinstall?
[10:17] <maurodafnis> for the 1000th time I dont care if its stupid . i dont plan on using it all the time. i just want to check some things
[10:18] <noriega> lupine_85 cp -a, aha, so that it includes hidden files etc?
[10:18] <magnet> maurodafnis: yep well, graphical login must be disabled for root
[10:18] <lupine_85> pettern: just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/fstab
[10:18] <mdasilva_> ugh never again
[10:18] <lupine_85> noriega: sort of
[10:18] <klhrevolutionist> Most of the time sound works, ** WARNING **: alsa_setup(): Failed to open pcm device (default): Device or resource busy
[10:18] <ph8> Gizmo_the_Great1: Make sure everything with 'samba' in the name is installed :p and then from nautilus use smb://computer_name
[10:18] <mdasilva_> ca repositories are a joke for some reason
[10:18] <ph8> might be smb:/
[10:18] <Paddy_EIRE> maurodafnis: then read this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_allow_root_user_to_login_into_GNOME
[10:18] <pettern> lupine_85: and fstab?
[10:18] <don_jr> ph8 how do I find out what group I am in?
[10:18] <Zuu> it must have somewhere.. question is just.. where is it hidden ?!
[10:18] <ph8> don_jr: It's probably the same as your username
[10:18] <mdasilva_> don_jr:  type   group
[10:18] <pettern> lupine_85: is that the only things that i have to change?
[10:18] <ph8> see what mdasilva_ said :)
[10:18] <maurodafnis> at last ... thank you
[10:18] <lupine_85> pettern: yes :)
[10:19] <magnet> maurodafnis: to enable it, have a look at /etc/kdm/ files; I won't say more, you ought to know how to do it by yourself before even thinking running X as root
[10:19] <don_jr> mdasilva_ 'group' doen'st work
[10:19] <klhrevolutionist> Has anybody tried this for sound, http://www.4front-tech.com
[10:19] <kalif> maurodafnis: sorry, I don't know how exactly to enable root-login, but I do know where to look for help
[10:19] <ph8> don_jr: type this: "cat /etc/group | grep don_jr"
[10:19] <maurodafnis> I dont see it that way
[10:19] <ph8> without the quotes, in a command line
[10:19] <Chousuke> How can any OS be secure if users deliberately break things :/
[10:19] <ph8> if it's more than one line, pastebin it and put the link here
[10:19] <|lostbyte|> Help, anyone here have the knoe how of syslinux ?
[10:19] <Chousuke> We might just as well all run spam servers.
[10:19] <mdasilva_> sorry its     groups
[10:20] <mdasilva_> not group
[10:20] <ph8> yes |lostbyte|
[10:20] <lupine_85> Chousuke: we need computing licenses - like driving licenses ;)
[10:20] <Chousuke> Yeah
[10:20] <jrib> maurodafnis: and just to be clear, it is a bad idea...
[10:20] <jaspr> hi, i have a problem running synaptic, the output says error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:20] <lupine_85> But not administered by Canonical
[10:20] <maurodafnis> magnet : i have my reasons. and i dont have to explain to you what my reasons are. you find it stupid and i would probably agree its stupid. but u dont know my reasons so plz stop breaking my ballz ...
[10:20] <lupine_85> ballz?
[10:20] <ph8> jaspr: on dapper?
[10:20] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[10:20] <Chousuke> maurodafnis: Your reasons are most likely wrong.
[10:20] <Zuu> argh... i simply cant work with this ubuntu thingie.. going back to suse <3
[10:20] <jaspr> yes
[10:20] <ph8> how very strange
[10:20] <maurodafnis> lol
[10:20] <ph8> updated recently?
[10:21] <daxxar> No-one knows of a 'GUI-generator'-type application to create simple GUIs for starting a few set applications (and browse a directory tree for files to pass to these applications)
[10:21] <mdasilva_> is anyone else having errors when updating their package lists?
[10:21] <klhrevolutionist> Can anybody give me some help regarding sound
[10:21] <|lostbyte|> Greate, could you paste me the liner to boot from first boot partiton, i messed up my mbr.
[10:21] <eyequeue> maurodafnis, again, you won't find help breaking ubuntu security in #ubuntu
[10:21] <jaspr> i tried reinstalling libvte4, with apt-get --reinstall but that doesn't work either.
[10:21] <|lostbyte|> ph8, ^^
[10:21] <eyequeue> !attitude
[10:21] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:21] <Gizmo_the_Great1> ph8: thanks. that has worked
[10:21] <magnet> lupine_85: I agree heartfully :); people should just pay $5/mo for remote administration by competent people; but MS/Apple/the micro-computer revolution is based on the belief that people can be their own admins; the mass of zombie PCs and botnets tells otherwise :)
[10:21] <magnet> maurodafnis: then stop asking for help
[10:21] <ph8> |lostbyte|: Something like syslinux /dev/hda1 where hda1 is your first partition
[10:21] <ph8> syslinux --help ftw
[10:21] <lupine_85> plonk++
[10:21] <magnet> maurodafnis: I'm benevolent here, I don't care if you can't run as root :)
[10:21] <maurodafnis> 1st of all i dont want help to break ubuntu security, jesus christ
[10:22] <ph8> Gizmo_the_Great1: np
[10:22] <|lostbyte|> ph8, ok, let me have a look at it. its on my usbstick. brb
[10:22] <maurodafnis> 2nd i asked a specific question and got millions of answers irrelevant to my topic
[10:22] <ph8> maurodafnis: All we want is a good reason
[10:22] <ladydoor> !attitude
[10:22] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:22] <ph8> I don't believe there is one
[10:22] <eyequeue> magnet, all he has to do is read the url the bot gave him repeatedly earlier, too :(  !root factoid
[10:22] <magnet> maurodafnis: just ignore the irrelevant answers then
[10:22] <Chousuke> maurodafnis: That's because you shouldn't even think of running KDE as root :P
[10:22] <jaspr> apt-get says: Reinstallation of libvte4 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[10:22] <lupine_85> "shouldn't" is a bit strong
[10:22] <eyequeue> !root
[10:22] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:22] <Chousuke> maurodafnis: your question provoked people to educate you about that. :D
[10:22] <Samuli^> maurodafnis, really, millions? Must've been very easy question :)
[10:22] <Zuu> erhm.. where is the recycle bin to be found ? i just removed some file i needed ?
[10:23] <str4> ??
[10:23] <kalif> maurodafnis: just tell them you're running in a virtual machine, and taht you have a snapshot
[10:23] <ph8> Zuu: bottom left? trash can?
[10:23] <ph8> or bottom right
[10:23] <magnet> eyequeue: hehe
[10:23] <lupine_85> but until we get a reason - which seems to be not forthcoming - it's impossible to judge
[10:23] <kalif> :)
[10:23] <ph8> depending on your setup
[10:23] <eyequeue> Zuu, what does that mean?
[10:23] <jrib> I think maurodafnis understands root is a bad idea and he's gotten his answer, so can we just move on?
[10:23] <maurodafnis> guess the irony of the word "millions"
[10:23] <daxxar> Anyone knows of a gui-generation-program like zenity/kdialog/xdialog/gdialog, just a bit more powerful? (And to provide a persistent interface)
[10:23] <eyequeue> jrattner1, no, he KEEPS asking
[10:23] <eyequeue> jrib, rather
[10:23] <lupine_85> "millions"==2,000,000+
[10:23] <maurodafnis> lol true
[10:23] <Zuu> ph8, there is none on my desktop
[10:23] <Samuli^> maurodafnis, that's not irony, it's exaggeration :)
[10:23] <kalif> daxxar: would you mind switching WM?
[10:23] <ph8> Zuu: I believe there should be
[10:23] <lupine_85> I would call it hyperbole, personally
[10:23] <maurodafnis> exaggeration -> irony
[10:23] <ph8> i know how to get to it through the command line
[10:23] <ph8> but not how to run it as standalone
[10:24] <ph8> is there a link from nautilus?
[10:24] <lupine_85> maurodafnis: you're not american are you?
[10:24] <Zuu> ph8, well i would love to tell you to find it for me then
[10:24] <Zuu> hehe
[10:24] <maurodafnis> mp[e
[10:24] <maurodafnis> nope
[10:24] <Zuu> ther eis none
[10:24] <|lostbyte|> ph8, i have something like.. LABEL hd
[10:24] <|lostbyte|>   menu label ^Boot from first hard disk
[10:24] <|lostbyte|>   localboot 0x80
[10:24] <|lostbyte|>   append -
[10:24] <lupine_85> irony != != != != != != exaggeration
[10:24] <MojoWork> what package can i install to make sure i always get linux-headers-`uname -r`  any time my kernel is upgraded by apt?
[10:24] <ph8> i'm on windows at the moment unfortunately so can't re-enact a lot of these things
[10:24] <ph8> MojoWork: linux-headers iirc
[10:24] <magnet> MojoWork: linux-headers
[10:24] <Zuu> eyequeue, it means that i need to find the recycle bin
[10:24] <maurodafnis> u said it was exaggeration , i said it was ironic
[10:24] <jaspr> anyone have any ideas how to get libvte4 installed? it seems to have a lot of dependencies.
[10:24] <eyequeue> MojoWork, none, just wantch the names of packages upgraded is what i do
[10:24] <maurodafnis> =] 
[10:24] <lupine_85> |uu: ~/.Trash
[10:24] <MojoWork> doesn't seem to keep up on point releases
[10:25] <ph8> Zuu: For any given folder the trash path is generally ~/.Trash
[10:25] <eyequeue> Zuu, what is that?
[10:25] <maurodafnis> funny conversation =] 
[10:25] <MojoWork> this is for a clueless friend
[10:25] <ph8> jaspr: Can you download the deb seperately
[10:25] <Zuu> lupine_85, ph8, thanks
[10:25] <Samuli^> maurodafnis, I'm just zinging with you. :)
[10:25] <ph8> and use dkpg directly?
[10:25] <magnet> MojoWork: because they don't update the dependance everytime they release new headers; but it will keep up, eventually ;)
[10:25] <ph8> then a bit of -f might come into play
[10:25] <magnet> dependancy*
[10:25] <MojoWork> his kernel just updated from 2.6.15-26 to -27 but it didn't get the cooresponding headers
[10:25] <lupine_85> it's not ironic.
[10:25] <jaspr> ph8: well I haven't tried that yet
[10:25] <lupine_85> http://www.pbfcomics.com/archive/PBF006AD-The_Tree_Of_Irony.jpg is ironic
[10:25] <MojoWork> ah. oh well
[10:25] <MojoWork> thanks
[10:25] <krazykit> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:25] <Ace> i updated the linux kernel and it messed with my ubuntu installation, can someone help to restore please?
[10:26] <ladydoor> MojoWork: you'd install linux-headers-386 or linux-headers-686 or linux-headers-k7 (or whatever)
[10:26] <krazykit> oops
[10:26] <eyequeue> MojoWork, true, though i'd see that when running apt-get here :)
[10:26] <krazykit> oops.
[10:26] <Zuu> whee got my files back :)
[10:26] <codecaine> how can you cat text from a file and copy all the text to the clipboard?
[10:26] <jaspr> I'll try, but I don't understand why apt-get says "it cannot be downloaded" (it is on packages.ubuntu.com)
[10:26] <MojoWork> ladydoor: ah
[10:26] <lupine_85> codecaine: automatically?
[10:26] <Samuli^> maurodafnis, but really. Don't judge free advice. People are kind enough to answer, it's no reason to be nasty because the answer wasn't what you wanted.
[10:26] <krazykit> codecaine: i usually open it in a text editor and highlight it that way
[10:26] <ph8> jaspr: Can you resolve the address of your repository ok etc?
[10:26] <eyequeue> jaspr, which package?
[10:26] <krazykit> lupine_85: pbf is /hilarious/
[10:26] <ladydoor> MojoWork: does that help?
[10:26] <lupine_85> and right
[10:27] <maurodafnis> Samuli^ believe me i appreciate it
[10:27] <dunkel> EasyTAG 1.99.11 - How do I edit the genre field of 2367 files recursively to add "library_item"?
[10:27] <codecaine> yes
[10:27] <MojoWork> ladydoor: let you know in a sec
[10:27] <Ace> has anyone had the problem of doing an apt-get and not being able to reboot?
[10:27] <lupine_85> dunkel: you want sed
[10:27] <tyler-wylie> You're crappy DVD won't start on my desktop :(
[10:27] <MojoWork> ladydoor: i think you're right though :)
[10:27] <codecaine> I wanted to see if there was a way around a editior
[10:27] <jaspr> it's the libvte4 packages. I did a dist-upgrade just yesterday, but i had this problem for longer.
[10:27] <lupine_85> assuming it's not a binary package
[10:27] <MojoWork> ladydoor: yep, thanks alot!!
[10:27] <krazykit> tyler-wylie: then you probably burned it wrong.
[10:27] <ladydoor> MojoWork: great!
[10:27] <jaspr> I'll try installing it manually.
[10:27] <eyequeue> !language > tyler-wylie
[10:27] <lupine_85> s/package/format/
[10:27] <tyler-wylie> well, actually the crappy ubuntu DVD won't load X on my radeon
[10:27] <tyler-wylie> sorry
[10:27] <marcin_ant> !webmin
[10:27] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[10:28] <dunkel> lupine_85: sed? on apt?
[10:28] <tyler-wylie> sorry eyequeue
[10:28] <maurodafnis> I just dont understand why I should say my reasons and i got sooo bored of hearing that "its stupid to run KDE as root" . I know it , its my problem , move in plx =] 
[10:28] <maurodafnis> move on plx ^^
[10:28] <bLaZeD> tyler-wylie, if itsd the live dvd use the safe graphics mode
[10:28] <eyequeue> maurodafnis, not in #ubuntu pleae
[10:28] <lupine_85> dunkel: depends on what you want to do
[10:28] <maurodafnis> hmm why not ?
[10:28] <tyler-wylie> bLaZeD, tried that ^_^ no screens found
[10:28] <eyequeue> maurodafnis, again, you won't find help breaking ubuntu security in #ubuntu
[10:28] <kalif> codecaine: I can't remember...   but it's there ...  somwhere
[10:28] <maurodafnis> eyequeue IQ < 100 ?
[10:28] <bLaZeD> tyler-wylie, well atis suck....especialy on linux
[10:28] <ph8> marcin_ant: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7507.html
[10:28] <Ace> is the dist-upgrade a problem right now?
[10:29] <lupine_85> if the files are in text format (or you can transform them to text format), and you have a string you want to change, sed is the best way to do it
[10:29] <tyler-wylie> bLaZeD, I know, I barely got it working with gentoo, and even then it was bad, so I'm trying my ubuntu DVD I got
[10:29] <eyequeue> maurodafnis, not is this the complaint department
[10:29] <maurodafnis> do i look like i ask for help to break ubuntu security ?
[10:29] <ladydoor> maurodafnis: please leave. insulting people is uncalled-for
[10:29] <bLaZeD> tyler-wylie, try this : during the booting on it...hit ctrl alt f1
[10:29] <lupine_85> we could all just type "/ignore..." ;)
[10:29] <eyequeue> maurodafnis, nor is the the PERSONAL ATTACKS department!  please stop immediately!
[10:29] <magnet> maurodafnis: the thing is, it's easy; would you just look in conf files, you'd find how to do it in no time; I even told you where to look; instead of complaining here, you'd better get started if you really want to run X as root :)
[10:29] <bLaZeD> tyler-wylie, then change the xorg conf to use somthing realy generic like vesa for a driver
[10:29] <tomsaso> hi.. how can i download and install codecs for mp3,AVI,MPEG,DVD... etc.... ac3 filters and everything needed for home music and video.
[10:29] <maurodafnis> lol
[10:30] <maurodafnis> FYI i didnt start insulting
[10:30] <dunkel> lupine_85: oh, I was talking about several audio formats, sorry forgot to mention :)
 eyequeue IQ < 100 ?
[10:30] <tyler-wylie> tomsaso, add the universal repository and install the codecs, do a search for stuff from gstreamer
[10:30] <eyequeue> unacceptable
[10:30] <maurodafnis> u insulted me by acting like i want to break ubuntu security about 4-5 times
[10:30] <lupine_85> dunkel: not really sure how you'd do that
[10:30] <fredrik> can someone tell me how i can configure my wireless the easiest
[10:30] <magnet> eyequeue: yep, we all know it was <= and not < ! ;)
[10:30] <bLaZeD> !restricted > tomsaso
[10:30] <we2by> any dock like os x for gnome?
[10:30] <eyequeue> okay, someone want to call !ops on this guy?
[10:30] <lupine_85> is there a program/command you run to edit the file?
[10:30] <kalif> fredrik: iwconfig?
[10:31] <|lostbyte|> ph8, any idea ?
[10:31] <ladydoor> eyequeue: i'd suggest just a dftt
[10:31] <maurodafnis> hmmm call !ops because you are wrong ?
[10:31] <ubuntu> brasil
[10:31] <lupine_85> e.g. can you do "edit_the_tag_of 1file"
[10:31] <jrib> !br
[10:31] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[10:31] <maurodafnis> =] 
[10:31] <dunkel> lupine_85:  EasyTAG 1.99.11 is what i have
[10:31] <ladydoor> eyequeue: that we we get the satisfaction of ignoring him in self-righteousness
[10:31] <|lostbyte|> label windows default /dev/hda1 ?
[10:31] <fredrik> kalif, were do i find theiwconfig
[10:31] <lupine_85> dunkel: is that command line? GUI?
[10:31] <dunkel> gui
[10:31] <eyequeue> tha'ts it, i'm not up for this, someone else can have the channel troll
[10:31] <kalif> fredrik: apt-file
[10:31] <Ace> can anyone help with my computer please?
[10:31] <kalif> it's your friend
[10:31] <lupine_85> and what sort of file is it editing? mp3?
[10:31] <jrib> codecaine: there is some bash command I can't remember... I do know how to do it in python though...
[10:31] <Wes122> hi, I'm just learning/reading about linux, and I'd like to install ubuntu on my mac powerbook, is it possible to leave osx on it while doing so?
[10:31] <fredrik> i am new to this
[10:31] <lupine_85> (e.g. changing ID3 tags)
[10:31] <kalif> !apt-file > fredrik
[10:31] <magnet> Wes122: yep of course
[10:32] <Wes122> magnet do you know where I could maybe read about doing so?
[10:32] <magnet> Wes122: you can have OSX and Ubuntu on dualboot, you can even run Ubuntu in a virtual machine from OSX
[10:32] <maurodafnis> anyway thanx to the guy that answered my question , i didnt even remember his name because other people were busy telling me "how stupid idea it is" , "that they wont help me break ubuntu security" and stuff like that
[10:32] <Samuli^> maurodafnis, sudo passwd root then enter your pass, then the new root pass. That should enable you to login as root.
[10:32] <dunkel> lupine_85: i guess all sorts of files with tags (id3, flac vorbis tag etc)
[10:32] <bLaZeD> Wes122, i dont have os x but u can dual boot os's
[10:32] <magnet> Wes122: yes too ;) what's your mac?
[10:32] <kalif> fredrik: you need to install wireless-tools
[10:32] <maurodafnis> Samuli : thx
[10:32] <codecaine> whats the command in python?
[10:32] <fredrik> sorry but wat is the apt file
[10:32] <Wes122> powerbook g4, my friend who uses it said he didn't think so... but
[10:33] <magnet> Wes122: well you can install Ubuntu PPC
[10:33] <fredrik> can i download the wireless tools from ubuntu
[10:33] <dudemeister> hiho there. i use gvidm to change my graphics resolution at runtime (kde display settings didnt work and screwed xorg.config). but it does not set new screen layout, SO not the whole screen is visible. any way around this???
[10:33] <Samuli^> maurodafnis, I recommend you don't run firefox, xchat etc. as root though, but, hey. Do what you want. :)
[10:33] <ladydoor> Samuli^: don't feed the troll
[10:33] <marcin_ant> ph8: thank you for url
[10:33] <kalif> fredrik: have a look here:
[10:33] <kalif> !apt-file
[10:33] <ubotu> apt-file is a program that can tell you in which package you can find the files you look for. sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update
[10:33] <magnet> Wes122: just download it from www.ubuntu.com, burn it, boot from it and it should be pretty straightforward
[10:33] <Samuli^> ladydoor, troll?
[10:33] <lupine_85> hmmm... unless it takes command-line options (e.g. something like easytag file --cli --change-tag <tagname> <tovalue>), you'll need to use another program
[10:33] <Wes122> hmm ok
[10:33] <jaspr> I start to undestand now, it seems i have a newer libvte-common installed then the dapper one. I have been playing with the compiz xgl stuff.
[10:33] <ladydoor> Samuli^: if you scroll up you'll see a nice history of rudeness and refusal to listen to people
[10:33] <lupine_85> something like id3ed, for instance
[10:33] <maurodafnis> Ofcourse i wont
[10:33] <Ace> can anyone help out here please?
[10:34] <lupine_85> you can then pass file names to it using wildcards or xargs
[10:34] <jrib> codecaine: clipboard = gtk.Clipboard(selection = 'PRIMARY')  will get you the PRIMARY buffer, checkout the pygtk reference for how to write to it (I'm only grabbing text in my script)
[10:34] <magnet> Wes122: just don't forget that it's ubuntu PPC and it lacks some of the packages of ubuntu for x86 (win32 codecs etc)
[10:34] <fredrik> and how do i do this the best way?
[10:34] <jaspr> I uninstalled the compix xgl stuff, but I guess not all packages.
[10:34] <bruenig> Ace...
[10:34] <tyler-wylie> bLaZeD, got my drivers set up right I still get a no screens found error
[10:34] <Wes122> ok, I've never used linux before so...
[10:34] <kalif> fredrik: sudo apt-get install wireless-tools
[10:34] <magnet> Wes122: ok well try it out :) it should be pretty easy and just select dual boot at the install stage, it shouldn't break anything :)
[10:34] <magnet> (hopefully ;)
[10:34] <Wes122> I'm well backed up though incase I had to put in a new osx
[10:34] <maurodafnis> ladydoor , what can't you understand ?
[10:35] <fredrik> sudo????????????
[10:35] <Wes122> ok
[10:35] <mycroes> hi all, is there a decent guide on grub booting for ubuntu (with lvm2)
[10:35] <dunkel> lupine_85: good idea, i'll probably mess it up but worth trying, thanks :)
[10:35] <mycroes> ?
[10:35] <magnet> Wes122: ok so there's nothing to be afraid of :)
[10:35] <Ace> bruenig, I did an apt-get dist-upgrade last night and now my computer is not booting up... currently it is a grub 15 error
[10:35] <Wes122> yep
[10:35] <fredrik> can you please tell me step by step?
[10:35] <maurodafnis> i am never rude, eyequeue was rude by implying i want to break ubuntu security
[10:35] <Samuli^> ladydoor, yeah, well he's got his point. It's his computer he states he knows the drawbacks. Are we saying that people can't make their own (informed) decisions about how to run their OS?
[10:35] <Wes122> how long should I expect an install to take mag?
[10:35] <kalif> fredrik: you know how to open a terminal?
[10:35] <maurodafnis> and he got his answer
[10:35] <maurodafnis> Samuli : at last ...
[10:35] <magnet> Wes122: mhh .. 45mins - 1 hour max
[10:36] <Wes122> ok great
[10:36] <Wes122> thanks
[10:36] <fredrik> yes, aha ok and then type in sud etc in there
[10:36] <bLaZeD> tyler-wylie, try to reconfigure your xorg then....im not realy sure.......on mine if the nvidia driver doesnt work for w/e reason...i just change the driver to vesa restart x and then i have a gui until i reinstall the nvidia driver
[10:36] <kalif> fredrik: yes
[10:36] <bruenig> Ace, not sure why that would happen
[10:36] <fredrik> thanks, soon a real pro at thios
[10:36] <ladydoor> Samuli^: that's not the issue, it's more the whole "insulting people" and not listening to suggestions. i told him he could set the root password, for example, if his heart was set on it, and even said how. *shrug*
[10:36] <tyler-wylie> bLaZeD, I shouldn't need ot use vesa, I have my radeon driver loaded, it's a no screens found error
[10:36] <maurodafnis> :O
[10:36] <maurodafnis> lol ?
[10:37] <jrib> can the maurodafnis be taken to -offtopic please?
[10:37] <Ace> bruenig, me neither... before this it was mounting root file system and grub was fine, but would not mount my root file system
[10:37] <ladydoor> jrib: you're right. i'm sorry
[10:37] <dudemeister> hmm, can anyone help here? i have no problem setting screen resolutio, but if i make the resolution lower the screen does not fit into the new resolution (borders are not visible, but i can scroll around)....
[10:37] <mycroes> anyone booting with grub?
[10:37] <boink> most use grub
[10:37] <bLaZeD> tyler-wylie, i forget the command to reconfigure xorg.....maby some in here knows....its like reconfigure -xorg or somthing
[10:37] <magnet> mycroes: yep but not with lvm2 ;)
[10:37] <boink> really, who still uses lilo?
[10:37] <dudemeister> seems like the screen layout of the xorg server does not get changed
[10:37] <Samuli^> ladydoor, ah, ok. I didn't know that. I just thought he was pissed because nobody told him how to and insisted on keeping lectures instead.
[10:37] <daxxar> How do I enable support for shadow-passwords?
[10:37] <Renan_s2> bLaZeD, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:38] <mycroes> magnet, I don't think lvm2 should be the problem
[10:38] <magnet> mycroes: what is? :)
[10:38] <Neo8750> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[10:38] <mycroes> magnet, just installed ubuntu 6.10 today
[10:38] <tyler-wylie> bLaZeD, wait a minute just figured it out, it was using the wrong busID for my video card
[10:38] <Neo8750> thats directly from the xorg.conf file itself
[10:38] <mycroes> magnet, well I installed but skipped lilo
[10:38] <Samuli^> ladydoor, And no, I don't like how he handled the situation, but if giving the information makes him shut up, then why not :)
[10:38] <JloR> Quicky question. I have some install CDs for 5.10 .. How bad would I mess things up if I installed that and upgraded to 6.06 ?
[10:38] <pettern-> my controller changed from /dev/sda to /dev/sdc. grub still works but it cant find the root partition. i changed in fstab but that didnt help..
[10:38] <mycroes> magnet, gonna try if I can just find the default opts...
[10:38] <kalif> JloR: that'll work
[10:39] <magnet> mycroes: well sudo grub-install
[10:39] <mycroes> oh btw, what's the difference between oem install and text mode install?
[10:39] <JloR> okay. And seemlessly ? I just need something that works on my laptop.. and rather fast :)
[10:39] <bLaZeD> Renan_s2, yea thats the command thanks =D tyler-wylie run that command "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:39] <magnet> mycroes: oem asks even fewer questions, text mode is just the debian sarge installer
[10:39] <mycroes> magnet, I'm nut in ubuntu :p
[10:39] <Crescendo> What's the Ubuntu equivalend of Windows' Dreamweaver?  Particularly the editing a file, saving and having it automatically placed on the server?
[10:39] <Crescendo> equivalent.*
[10:39] <magnet> Crescendo: Nvu
[10:39] <Samuli^> how did you auth yourself on this network again?
[10:39] <magnet> mycroes: mh so you want to install grub and you can't boot ubuntu?
[10:39] <tyler-wylie> bLaZeD, I fixed it, it was trying to use my onboard video card instead of my radeon, stupid auto configs, changed it back manually though :)
[10:39] <Wes122> hehe lol I'm in a hotel and with this connection download will take 2 days lol
[10:40] <bLaZeD> ahh good deal tyler-wylie =D
[10:40] <mycroes> magnet, I'm already using grub for gentoo, now I want that grub to boot ubuntu too, so that if I like ubuntu I'll move to it soon
[10:40] <fredrik> kalif, i typed the instructions in the terminal, came back as 0 all the way
[10:40] <tyler-wylie> bLaZeD, only thing wrong with auto-generating anything, they tend to be flawed somehow
[10:40] <jrib> codecaine: the bash command was xclip!
[10:40] <fredrik> i used use windows before, is that a problem
[10:41] <magnet> mycroes: oh ok. so you know what disk/partition the ubuntu /boot is?
[10:41] <ladydoor> mycroes: i believe you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst from gentoo
[10:41] <codecaine> ah ty
[10:41] <Samuli^> maurodafnis, I think you can't see my text on the query because I haven't authed my nick
[10:41] <bLaZeD> tyler-wylie, yea but it sounded like u had a boiked conf.....i figured that the reconfigure would at least give u a nice skelaton of a conf to work with
[10:41] <bLaZeD> *boinked
[10:41] <mycroes> magnet, ladydoor: I know all that kinda stuff, I'm just hoping the default initrd will be sufficent to boot from lvm2
[10:41] <maurodafnis> true
[10:41] <fredrik> kalif, maybe the wireless pcmcia card dont need to run on windows only
[10:41] <ladydoor> mycroes: ohhhh...hm. sounds complicated. good luck :-)
[10:42] <mycroes> ladydoor, thanks :P
[10:42] <magnet> mycroes: let's hope so then :)
[10:42] <mycroes> magnet, I'm trying...
[10:42] <codecaine> anybody else flash script is messaged up from the update whenever I install something it keeps coming up
[10:42] <pestilence> i installed ubuntu server on this hard drive in a different computer, and moved it to this computer.  now networking doesn't work (no eth0, and adding it to /etc/network/interfaces doesn't work since eth0 doesn't exist)
[10:42] <pestilence> how do i fix this?
[10:42] <tyler-wylie> bLaZeD, nope...just wish sometimes ubuntu had some sense to at least include an option to not automatically generate *everything*... gentoo's the exact opposite, so I usually mess with both to meet a happy medium
[10:42] <maurodafnis> can you solve it ? =] 
[10:42] <Samuli^> maurodafnis, but like you said, it's not important who's right or wrong. This is just irc, so who even cares.
[10:43] <pestilence> i.e. is there a dpkg-reconfigure networking or similar
[10:43] <magnet> pestilence: is there a network card recognized by linux? (in lspci)
[10:43] <maurodafnis> true again
[10:43] <ladydoor> codecaine: do you mean when you do sudo apt-get upgrade? i believe there's just an issue with the latest binary or somesuch
[10:43] <pestilence> magnet, yes, and the module is in the kernel (i.e. lsmod shows the module is loaded)
[10:43] <pestilence> but it isn't recognized as eth0
[10:43] <magnet> pestilence: hu and dmesg tells you what device it is?
[10:43] <codecaine> yes
[10:43] <lupine_85> pestilence: does the card show up in lspci?
[10:44] <bLaZeD> tyler-wylie, eww gentoo ;D
[10:44] <pestilence> lupine_85, yes, see above message to magnet
[10:44] <codecaine> should I just uninstall flash and install it manually?
[10:44] <thenetduck> does anyone know how to installicons on Xfce ??
[10:44] <joserene> hey i'm very new to the linux world, i just installed ubuntu 5 (hedgehog something) from a cd i got from a friend, then when i was downloading updates i got a message that there was a new version, so i downloaded it, now i've extracted it and burned it to a cd but i can't manage to install the new version can anyone help???
[10:44] <mycroes> is anyone here using one ubuntu install with 2 video-cards (switching on reboot)?
[10:44] <synjet> joserene: what exactly was the message?
[10:45] <magnet> joserene: you can update to the newest version in the update menu (ie using the internet, no need to use a CD)
[10:45] <tyler-wylie> bLaZeD, the thing is, it takes a good bit of time to set up SuSE, Gentoo and ubuntu how I like them, it's just... basically which I prefer, apt-get, yast, or portage
[10:45] <synjet> joserene: your system should have got updated to ver 6.06 automatically, you dont have to dload or burn
[10:45] <jaspr> great i fixed it, had to completely remove ubuntu-desktop, then do an apt-get update, and reinstall it again.
[10:45] <joserene> oh so just by downloading all the automatic updates it will update to version 6.something???
[10:45] <tyler-wylie> bLaZeD, but I'm putting ubuntu on this box because I just want it to work automagically with my new TV tuner card :D
[10:45] <magnet> joserene: if you ask it to, yes
[10:45] <pestilence> magnet, dmesg does show it.... 3c905c tornado
[10:46] <joserene> how do i ask it to?
[10:46] <magnet> joserene: in the automatic updates menu, there's a button "update to 6.06 LTS"
[10:46] <magnet> joserene: maybe you already did it
[10:46] <kalif> codecaine: xclip is what you're looking for
[10:46] <fredrik> kalif are you still there?
[10:46] <magnet> pestilence: hehe a pretty good 3com :)
[10:46] <codecaine> yea I got it
[10:46] <kalif> yes?
[10:46] <mycroes> magnet, can you point me to a grub conf for ubuntu?
[10:46] <pestilence> magnet, i know it works in linux
[10:46] <bLaZeD> tyler-wylie, yea gentoo is one distro i wont touch....if i want to have somthing like that id install a *bsd ......i use linux as a desktop so i need a linux that a: has good support b: will let me do anything i want with my media c: is free d: and its NOT microsuck
[10:47] <magnet> pestilence: yep I know, of course it does :) well do you know what device it is (ie, what /dev/ethX it is?)
[10:47] <we2by> how do I make the buttons on the main toolbar of nautilus smaller???
[10:47] <fredrik> i typed in the sudo apt-get install etc, but all the values came back as 0
[10:47] <magnet> mycroes: mhh, let me try that
[10:47] <joserene> ok thanks magnet i'll try that, i didn't download any updates since i thought of installing the new version (my mind is still stuck on microsoft style :P)
[10:47] <magnet> !grub
[10:47] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:47] <joserene> thanks
[10:47] <magnet> ;)
[10:47] <bLaZeD> afk
[10:47] <pestilence> magnet, i'm not sure i know what you mean.  there is no /dev/eth*
[10:47] <lupine_85> gentoo++
[10:47] <tyler-wylie> bLaZeD, heh, the only thing that turned me off ubuntu a while ago was the pain to install non-open codecs, but it's not that bad now, I'm used to Gentoo the most, and it's the easiest for me to work with, but I like diversity, and give everything a try
[10:47] <pestilence> magnet, but it's the only card in the machine
[10:47] <lupine_85> only reason I don't use it is that compilation takes *so* long
[10:48] <kalif> fredrik: try iwconfig
[10:48] <mycroes> magnet, it seems grub isn't default with 6.10
[10:48] <magnet> pestilence: mhh, what does sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.10
[10:48] <pestilence> magnet, tells me no such device
[10:48] <magnet> mycroes: I don't know for 6.10, surprising anyway
[10:48] <fredrik> in the same terminal
[10:48] <lupine_85> mycroes: grub is the default
[10:48] <pestilence> i believe this used to be fixed by an alias in /etc/modprobe.conf.
[10:48] <mycroes> magnet, I didn't see anything about grub, but I'll pay extra attention when installing ubuntu on this box
[10:49] <magnet> mycroes: ok :)
[10:49] <pestilence> but not sure how ubuntu does this magic.
[10:49] <lupine_85> pestilence: /etc/modprobe.d/aliases then
[10:49] <rdz> hi all. which charset should i use in evolution, so that mac-users see some special characters like  correctly?
[10:49] <JamieBE> Does anyone in here know javascript, I have a real quick, but slightly tricky question in regards to an Ubuntu app I have. Any takers?
[10:49] <tyler-wylie> bLaZeD, but the one thing ubuntu has done already was getting direct rendering working with the open source radeon driver, which I could *never* get with Gentoo because I don't use AGP and no one knew how...so it gets two thumbs up from me already
[10:49] <kalif> fredrik: yes
[10:49] <kalif> remember sudo
[10:49] <pestilence> lupine_85, but there is no entry for eth0 there on any of my other machines, which makes me wonder how ubuntu determines what eth0 is
[10:49] <fredrik> kalif, i tried that but says no wirelessextension
[10:49] <synjet> JamieBE: try ubuntu developers channel
[10:50] <JamieBE> synjet: what channel is that? :)
[10:50] <kalif> fredrik: then ubuntu doesn't know your wifi-card
[10:50] <synjet> JamieBE: not sure, I guess #ubuntu-dev
[10:51] <synjet> !ubuntu-dev
[10:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:51] <mdasilva_> whats up with the    sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)     when doing an apt-get update ?
[10:51] <fredrik> kalif, what do i do then
[10:51] <kalif> google :)
[10:51] <magnet> pestilence: mhh wait i'm checking something
[10:51] <kalif> which card is it ?
[10:51] <fredrik> kalif, and looking for what, drivers or a new wireless card
[10:51] <lupine_85> pestilence: that's done automagically
[10:52] <lupine_85> is it possible that it's called it eth1 or something instead? (ifconfig -a)
[10:52] <lupine_85> that happened to me when I tarballed a server recently
[10:52] <^psych0^> hey y'all just trying to set up the network-manager-gnome app... to be able to use WPA-PSK, but it doesn't seem to recognize that there is a wireless network on the machine... this is on Breezy...
[10:52] <^psych0^> any ideas?
[10:52] <JamieBE> Thanks synjet
[10:52] <kalif> fredrik: which card is it ?
[10:52] <damousys> does anyone knows how to compile ImageMagick on ubuntu ?
[10:52] <mycroes> magnet, seems to be booting right now
[10:52] <soty> hello there - i have questions
[10:52] <lupine_85> !compile
[10:52] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:52] <magnet> mycroes: nice
[10:53] <mycroes> magnet, booted fine
[10:53] <magnet> pestilence: try cat /proc/net/dev
[10:53] <lupine_85> ImageMagick is in repos, though - is there something missing in that one?
[10:53] <frenchy> hey does anyone know why sometimes when i plug my ipod in ubuntu mounts it and sometimes it doesn't?
[10:53] <damousys> no i know
[10:53] <mycroes> magnet, it's currently pestering me with music
[10:53] <magnet> mycroes: haha, it means it works ;)
[10:53] <fredrik> its called mentor IEEE802.11g for window 98, me,2000 and xp
[10:53] <mycroes> magnet, now I need to fix my res :P
[10:53] <magnet> mycroes: well have fun ;)
[10:54] <soty> im using the live cd (5.04) - does this mean all things that i do are not recorded in any way apart from the ram which will be forgot when i restart
[10:54] <keegan_> Hello Everyone, I have a Geforce 5200, and I was wondering if I could use AIXGL without any issue.  Also if I can does anyone know where a guide is, so I can install it.
[10:54] <codecaine> xclip doesn't work
[10:54] <beuno> keegan_: nope
[10:54] <codecaine> I tryed to copy text from a file so I can paste in my browser
[10:54] <beuno> nvidia is not supported
[10:54] <kalif> codecaine: yes it does
[10:54] <mycroes> magnet, I'm trying, but seems I need to get used to a couple of things first :P
[10:55] <keegan_> Does Nvidia support XGL?
[10:55] <magnet> pestilence: still here?
[10:55] <fatbrain> What gui subversion client would you suggest?
[10:55] <beuno> keegan_: yes, that would be your choice
[10:55] <manofcyrus> i think defoult is grub
[10:55] <keegan_> Alrighty...
[10:55] <magnet> mycroes: well I'm sure that coming from gentoo you won't need too much assistance ;)
[10:55] <kalif> fredrik: I'm lost then - you'll ave to find out which chip is on the card, end then find out if that chip is supported by Linux
[10:55] <keegan_> So I'm guessing AIGLX is ment for ATI cards?
[10:55] <ladydoor> codecaine: cat file, highlight text, middle-click to paste might work...
[10:55] <soty> ok my other question was - how do i access a slave drive whilst using ubuntu live ? damn ive been using windows too long
[10:56] <damousys> yes there is something missing magick++ isn't there
[10:56] <codecaine> oh was right clicking
[10:56] <mycroes> magnet, hehe, I hope not :P
[10:56] <beuno> keegan_: not really, it's just that theres the whole open/closed driver thin really messes things up
[10:56] <mycroes> magnet, I hope to be helping other ppl very soon
[10:56] <fredrik> do i just go in and have a look on the website?
[10:56] <codecaine> I don't have a middle button on my laptop
[10:56] <magnet> soty: there should be an icon on the desktop
[10:56] <keegan_> I see I see..
[10:56] <kalif> codecaine: use left-right then
[10:56] <mycroes> magnet, but I never really worked with apt-get except for my ipaq running familiar...
[10:56] <fatbrain> !svn
[10:56] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[10:56] <damousys> but if i am trying to compile it says magic++ installed no(failed test)
[10:56] <codecaine> a ok
[10:56] <beuno> keegan_: eventually, this will be fixed, but it really depends on the manufacturers to speed up the process
[10:57] <magnet> mycroes: well it will be a change to get new software in less than 2 hours of compile time </troll> ;)
[10:57] <soty> the cdrom drive is the only icon on the desktop
[10:57] <mycroes> magnet, lol, that was like the reason I switched :P
[10:57] <keegan_> I just read somewhere that AIXGL has a better chance of doing all the cool stuff with a lower card
[10:57] <mycroes> magnet, and also the fact I only use default gnome apps, gaim-2 and xchat
[10:57] <DokGonzo> Hi guys, need some help...
[10:58] <magnet> !ask
[10:58] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:58] <Jesse> How do I mount a remote directory from another server?
[10:58] <w30> keegan_, yep, it's in the ropository as a binary driver nvidia-glx
[10:58] <beuno> keegan_: yes, that is true, but I don't think a geforce 5200 is considered a "lower" card
[10:58] <soty> any thoughts why its not showing up magnet
[10:58] <magnet> Jesse: depends on what filesharing protocols the remote server supports
[10:58] <DokGonzo> Well - I'm trying to install Ubuntu v6.06 LTS but it always hangs at 37%...
[10:58] <magnet> soty: what filesystem does it use?
[10:58] <fredrik> kalif, do i just check out mentors website?
[10:58] <magnet> DokGonzo: download the alternate install CD
[10:58] <eternalswd> does the xserver that comes with dapper use demage?
[10:58] <Jesse> magnet: it's running CentOS
[10:59] <keegan_> Whelp...I'm gunna go and try to install it, if I get caught in a sang...I'll be back
[10:59] <keegan_> lol
[10:59] <mycroes> magnet, I need to add some repositories, but instead of asking you how to I'd rather read something to get me started on apt-get, any suggestions?
[10:59] <damousys> does any1 knows?
[10:59] <magnet> Jesse: then you must enable NFS exports on the remote server and mount it using NFS
[10:59] <DokGonzo> i downloaded from the official site, is there another more reliable source?
[10:59] <Wolfpaws> 'lo. Where can I find ReiserFS4 module?
[10:59] <beuno> heh, ok ok, have fun  ;D
[10:59] <DokGonzo> and besides, cd check says CD is ok...
[10:59] <soty> master is ntfs (sp?) same with slave i think
[10:59] <beuno> remember, ubuntuforums is your friend
[10:59] <lupine_85> damousys: you need to isntall this "magic++" thing
[10:59] <magnet> mycroes: the Debian help (for wanabee debian developers :)
[11:00] <Paddy_EIRE> how do i get the debian menu to show up under Applications...I've tried Alacarte and its there but i dont see it
[11:00] <C-O-L-T> suse menu called slab will be included in ubuntu's next release?
[11:00] <DokGonzo> i really don't think it's due to a faulty cd image...
[11:00] <synjet> Paddy_EIRE: right-click on the top panel
[11:00] <mycroes> magnet, ok, thanks, I'll try to find some stuff, guess I'll be asking new questions in 10 minutes or so ;)
[11:00] <ladydoor> Paddy_EIRE: try killall gnome-panel so that it'll restart
[11:00] <damousys> yes but that should be in the imagemagick soutce
[11:00] <damousys> yes but that should be in the imagemagick source
[11:00] <magnet> DokGonzo: no it's just that the alternate install CD is less "bleeding edge" and works on more computers
[11:00] <magnet> DokGonzo: you can get it from the official website too
[11:00] <cbx33> how do I enable SMP?
[11:00] <mrDaniel> hmm,  i don't understand the topic: who is 'lilo and his family' and why 'miss you' ???
[11:01] <damousys> install the smp modules
[11:01] <cbx33> mrDaniel, lilo was the founder of freenode
[11:01] <cbx33> mrDaniel, he was killed ina hit and run a few days ago
[11:01] <DokGonzo> hmm... i got a pretty bleeding edge comp but i guess anything's possible... Do you have a direct link for the alternate version?
[11:01] <Paddy_EIRE> ladydoor: what i meant to say was its always been in alacarte but it never has shown up...i've restarted many times
[11:01] <magnet> mrDaniel: lilo was the founder of freenode, he died last week
[11:01] <cbx33> damousys, how easy is that?
[11:01] <suyog> can anyone help me with this   error: expected ) before string constant
i want it under Applications
[11:01] <ladydoor> Paddy_EIRE: oh. that's...very odd. it should've shown up pretty much immediately
[11:01] <mrDaniel> ok, now i understand, thank you
[11:01] <damousys> use apt-cache to search to the smp kernels
[11:02] <kalif> fredrik: try
[11:02] <damousys> install the latest versions
[11:02] <magnet> DokGonzo: nope sorry, just go to ubuntu.com
[11:02] <damousys> and it works
[11:02] <kalif> it can be a hazzle
[11:02] <tomsaso> how can i paste commands in terminal
[11:02] <Paddy_EIRE> ladydoor: yeah i always get the weird probs...lol
[11:02] <tomsaso> ?
[11:02] <soty> i was thinking of removing the master so that there is just a slave drive and it would read it (theres not logic behind it, but should i try it)
[11:02] <ladydoor> Paddy_EIRE: too true. lol
[11:02] <eternalswd> Is archive.ubuntu.com down and if so, what address can I use instead?
[11:02] <magnet> soty: sorry I haven't seen your previous messages (highlight me to be sure I do)
[11:02] <cbx33> damousys, there are so many to choose
[11:02] <cbx33> I have a 4200 X2 AMD
[11:02] <magnet> soty: ok ntfs; well it should read but not write
[11:03] <magnet> soty: master/slave has no incidence on harddrives visibility
[11:03] <suyog> Can anyone please tell me the meaning of this?  error: expected ) before string constant
[11:03] <damousys> put | grep 2.6 behind your apt-cache commando
[11:03] <magnet> !mirrors
[11:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[11:03] <DokGonzo> ok, i'm on the page now, i got 3 options: Desktop CD, Server install cd and Alternate install CD... Should I go for alternate? It says "The alternate install CD allows you to perform certain specialist installations of Ubuntu."
[11:04] <cbx33> damousys, linux-image-2.6.15-27-k7 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.15 on AMD K7 SMP/UP
[11:04] <cbx33> ?
[11:04] <magnet> suyog: paste your code to a pastebin
[11:04] <boink> !lvm
[11:04] <magnet> !paste
[11:04] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[11:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:04] <sess> is it possible, or even safe to add different voltages to my scaling_available_freqencies?
[11:04] <damousys> what is your system is it an amd k7
[11:04] <synjet> Paddy_EIRE: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-80394.html
[11:04] <soty> magnet: shoot, i just restarted from windows xp with the live cd in so definitly not the hardware
[11:04] <magnet> DokGonzo: try alternate it should work
[11:04] <cbx33> it's a 4200 X2 AMD chip
[11:04] <suyog> it's half a line of code!!!
[11:04] <Paddy_EIRE> synjet: nice one
[11:04] <sess> it defaults to 800, 1600, and 1800.  I'd like to add all the speeds between 800 and 1800 in 200mhz intervals
[11:05] <damousys> just get the one whitout additions
[11:05] <sess> its an amd turion64 1.8ghz
[11:05] <synjet> Paddy_EIRE: google keywords: "debian menu applications ubuntu"  :)
[11:05] <magnet> soty: well I don't know, maybe the livecd voluntarily doesn't mount your drives :)
[11:05] <DokGonzo> ok thnx magnet, I'll try it out...
[11:05] <physicsnick> question, is anyone else having a problem updating macromedia flash?
[11:05] <gnomefreak> Paddy_EIRE: to add debian menu install menu and menu-xdg
[11:06] <soty> magnet: well thanx for you help dude :) im a get the newer live cd and maybe it'll work
[11:06] <damousys> where can i find support for imagemagick @ freenode
[11:06] <dudemeister> hiho, anyone got an idea on how to get xrandr working? it says the RANDR extension is missing (the xorg-log says it loads it, though)
[11:06] <magnet> soty: yep, anyway would you install ubuntu we can help you get your data
[11:06] <cbx33> damousys, I'm currently using the 386 on my 64bit chip
[11:07] <cbx33> I don;t want 64bit kernel
[11:07] <TwilightVampire> I accidently deleted my splash screens and want to fix them. More info can be found at the following link http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261931
[11:07] <synjet> damousys: #imagemagick?
[11:07] <cbx33> can I still have SMP
[11:07] <Paddy_EIRE> gnomefreak: synjet : nice one, im on it
[11:07] <printk> TwilightVampire: boot splash?
[11:07] <damousys> no oke but you need an linux-686-smp version
[11:07] <TwilightVampire> Boot and exit
[11:07] <cbx33> 686 is for Pentiums...will it work on my AMD?
[11:07] <printk> TwilightVampire: reinstall usplash
[11:08] <TwilightVampire> Tried that
[11:08] <TwilightVampire> Doesnt work
[11:08] <cbx33> would the k7 be better choice?
[11:08] <damousys> i am @ windows now so i don't know what to install precisly
[11:08] <printk> cbx33: what AMD do you have?
[11:08] <Code-E> Im sorry to disturb but how do i install tar.gz files
[11:08] <cbx33> printk, AMD 4200 X2 64
[11:08] <Zolace> Hey
[11:08] <printk> Code-E: tar.gz is an archive.  .tar is a archive package .gz mean it's compressed.
[11:08] <zoidberg> hey guys
[11:08] <janbanan> Is it possible to run enlightment on my gnome session? I have an XGL session too
[11:08] <zoidberg> i have a question
[11:08] <printk> Code-E: to extract it you can usee "tar -zxvf file.tar.gz"
[11:09] <tyler-wylie> On Ubuntu when I run glxgears no output is sent to the terminal, how can I check my glxgears FPS then?
[11:09] <Zolace> I think we all have questions hehe
[11:09] <Code-E> thats what i mean
[11:09] <Code-E> thanks dude
[11:09] <cbx33> printk, which kernel would I use, I don;t want 64 bit kernel
[11:09] <printk> cbx33: wouldn;t you use 64 bit?   *shrugs*
[11:09] <Zolace> Something quite trivial for me, about GAIM
[11:09] <chalkie1873> hey guys hows u doin
[11:09] <magnet> suyog: if you still have your prob, show that half line of code then :)
[11:09] <zoidberg> i'm trying to use ncpmount...but the terminal sends me a meassage that it doesnt find the command....is DAPPER ncp ENABLED by default?
[11:09] <cbx33> lots of things broken
[11:09] <chalkie1873> im new to linux, ive installed 3dchess, how do i run it?
[11:09] <ladydoor> !shout
[11:09] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:09] <Zolace> Actually a couple of things
[11:09] <cbx33> printk, so is there a non 64 bit that will work?
[11:09] <mycroes> magnet, I'm currently reading the edgy eft starters guide on ubuntuguide.org, that'll keep me busy for a while I think
[11:09] <cbx33> with SMP ?
[11:10] <damousys> use linux-686-smp and you will get it
[11:10] <ladydoor> chalkie1873: <alt>F2, type "3dchess", hit enter
[11:10] <cbx33> thanx damousys
[11:10] <wikijeff> Anyone else have a problem with the nick homepage www.nick.com? I'm using firefox on dapper and I have flash plugins which work on other sites.
[11:10] <magnet> mycroes: have fun :)
[11:10] <TwilightVampire> Any ideas?
[11:10] <printk> cbx33: well yah, what damousys said
[11:10] <tyler-wylie> On Ubuntu when I run glxgears no output is sent to the terminal, how can I check my glxgears FPS then?
[11:10] <zoidberg> guys can someone help me with ncpmount
[11:10] <Zolace> I have two questions. 1, On X chat, is there any way to have a list of users at the side of the screen like on normal IRC? And also on GAIM what does it mean if your contact has an red X next to their icon?
[11:10] <Paddy_EIRE> has anyone fiqured out how to get that "flashplugin-nonfree" to stop bugging you at the end of every apt-get install
[11:10] <mycroes> magnet, I will, ty
[11:10] <cbx33> after installing that
[11:11] <printk> Zolace: with xchat it does have nicks on the side.  Try to see if you can resize it, it's probably just hidden
[11:11] <chalkie1873> hmm it didnt work :-\
[11:11] <cbx33> do I need to modify grub
[11:11] <cbx33> and install the restriced drivers pacakge?
[11:11] <zoidberg> can anyone help me out please?
[11:11] <Samuli^> tyler-wylie, I'm not sure if you can in newer version.. In older you could --Iacknowledgethisisnotabenchmark or --printfps
[11:11] <damousys> type apt-cache search 686 | grep smp | grep 2.6
[11:11] <synjet> tyler-wylie: glxgears -info
[11:11] <magnet> Zolace: if you don't have the userlist, you're using xchat-gnome; revert to xchat (sudo apt-get install xchat)
[11:11] <ryan_> can anyone tell me where my display config file chould be and what it should be named
[11:11] <Zolace> Magnet, that would be it... thanks
[11:11] <printk> ryan_: display for X?
[11:11] <damousys> than install everything what says kernel image and linux
[11:11] <magnet> Zolace: the X means that you're not in his contact list
[11:11] <Zolace> Oh ok. Some i know i am on there though
[11:12] <tyler-wylie> Samuli^, no need to get snippy
[11:12] <magnet> Zolace: must not be the same X then ;)
[11:12] <Zolace> But they have an X anyway
[11:12] <synjet> tyler-wylie: oopsie, glxgears -gears
[11:12] <Zolace> LoL :P
[11:12] <bruenig> ryan_, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:12] <Code-E> sorry to repeat but my irc closed but how do i extract the tar.gz
[11:12] <synjet> tyler-wylie: oopsie, glxgears -display (damn, time to leave for the day)
[11:12] <Samuli^> tyler-wylie, no really. That was the option :)
[11:12] <Zolace> TY all
[11:12] <magnet> Zolace: it depends on the protocol anyway
[11:12] <ryan_> thanks
[11:12] <printk> Code-E: tar -zxvf file.tar.gz :)
[11:12] <DigitalNinja> is anyone here doing LTSP on Ubuntu
[11:12] <cbx33> damousys, what is the diff between kernel-image and linux-image pacakges?
[11:12] <bruenig> Code=e, tar xf file
[11:12] <boink> or just tar zxvf file.tar.gz
[11:12] <yarddog> how can i skip an item in a dist-upgrade?
[11:12] <ladydoor> Code-E: tar xzvf filename.tar.gz
[11:12] <magnet> cbx33: the name? :)
[11:12] <Paddy_EIRE> gnomefreak: nice one that solved it, it turns out i needed "menu" and not just "menu-xdg" :)
[11:13] <damousys> you need them both :P
[11:13] <cbx33> damousys, ok
[11:13] <tmccrary> Has anyone here heard of an Attansic Ethernet card? Ubuntu doesn't auto detect it
[11:13] <gnomefreak> yep :)
[11:13] <tyler-wylie> synacktion, didn't work either
[11:13] <tyler-wylie> Samuli^, ...
[11:13] <mdasilva_> can anyon fetch   http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages     ?
[11:13] <Samuli^> tyler-wylie, it WAS.
[11:13] <mdasilva_> is that line wrong in my sources list?
[11:14] <TwilightVampire> I accidently deleted my splash screens and want to fix them. More info can be found at the following link http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261931
[11:14] <ladydoor> mdasilva_: you might take out the us. part--that server's kind of slow
[11:14] <Samuli^> tyler-wylie, google for it if you want ;)
[11:14] <Zolace> Magnet, xchat isnt here
[11:14] <mdasilva_> im having a horrible time finding the right repositories
[11:14] <magnet> Zolace: yes it is ;)
[11:14] <mdasilva_> wth
[11:14] <Zolace> Only xchat gnome, Im using the latest ubuntu (6.06)
[11:14] <mdasilva_> is there an online list?
[11:14] <magnet> Zolace: sudo apt-get install xchat
[11:14] <magnet> mh
[11:14] <Zolace> Dappa
[11:14] <tyler-wylie> Samuli^, -printfps worked, --printfps was nothing though so :p to you
[11:15] <morzel> re
[11:15] <magnet> Zolace: run the command I told you in a terminal window
[11:15] <Zolace> Couldn't find package xchat
[11:15] <Samuli^> tyler-wylie, well, not my problem if glxgears doesn't use the unix-standard for options :)
[11:15] <magnet> Zolace: well, it *is* in universe/net
[11:15] <tmccrary> man, ASUS sucks
[11:15] <Zolace> Ok
[11:15] <Zolace> f/e
[11:15] <tyler-wylie> Samuli^, I can make it your problem ^_^ j/k
[11:15] <lassegs> i like asus
[11:16] <synjet> tyler-wylie: oopsie, glxgears -display (see the terminal)
[11:16] <Samuli^> tyler-wylie, what's YOUR problem? :)
[11:16] <tyler-wylie> synjet, I got it working with glxgears -printfps
[11:16] <Zolace> Hmm ok magnet, thanks for your help, ill keep trying to find it
[11:16] <magnet> Zolace: wait
[11:16] <tyler-wylie> Samuli^, absolutely nothing
[11:16] <synjet> tyler-wylie: ok, coz printfps doesnt for me
[11:16] <Zolace> Im waiting
[11:16] <Samuli^> tyler-wylie, so.. shut up. I was just trying to help.
[11:16] <magnet> Zolace: have you enabled the different channels? (in sources.list or menu "Software channels") ?
[11:16] <magnet> ie the different repositories
[11:16] <Zolace> I doubt it...
[11:17] <magnet> ok then that's the problem ;)
[11:17] <Code-E> Ok how do you extract regular tar files
[11:17] <paradizelost> Code-E  tar -xvf filename.tar
[11:17] <tmccrary> ASUS makes ethernet cards that don't get any support under Linux
[11:17] <Code-E> thanks :D
[11:17] <mdasilva_> anyone have problems updating apt sayn  "gzip: stdin: not in gzip format" ?
[11:17] <tmccrary> its a shame
[11:17] <tyler-wylie> Samuli^, nevar
[11:17] <lassegs> anybody know if theres some way to make deskbar understand when i misspell "firefox" and spell "firfeox" instad, still showing the right app?
[11:17] <magnet> Zolace: edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file (sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list) and remove the hashes (#) in front of the "deb" and "deb-src" lines
[11:17] <lassegs> tmccrary, what cards?
[11:18] <paradizelost> lassegs you could do an alias
[11:18] <Zolace> TY
[11:18] <tmccrary> Attansic GigE Ethernet cards
[11:18] <TwilightVampire> I accidently deleted my splash screens and want to fix them. More info can be found at the following link http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261931
[11:18] <magnet> Zolace: then run sudo apt-get update, and again sudo apt-get install xchat
[11:18] <lassegs> paradizelost, then i would have to make aliases for every app i use right?
[11:18] <synjet> lassegs: when you alt-F2 and say fir, it auto-detects the nearest app
[11:18] <paradizelost> but synjet's suggestion would be the better one
[11:18] <lassegs> synjet, i know that, but thats not what i want
[11:19] <jrib> Samuli^: it's -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark by the way
[11:19] <Zolace> Still cant find it, magnet
[11:19] <Code-E> How do you use makefile scripts
[11:19] <paradizelost> lassegs you'd just need to do an     alias firfoex="firefox"
[11:19] <synjet> lassegs: then as paradizelost said, aliasing is the option, but you have to "predict" all kinda typos you would make
[11:19] <magnet> Zolace: even after sudo apt-get update ?
[11:19] <magnet> no errors when you run it?
[11:19] <lassegs> thats gotta be fixed
[11:20] <Zolace> Dammit i know why
[11:20] <damousys> why
[11:20] <ladydoor> !language
[11:20] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:20] <mycroes> magnet, I just installed 915resolution, currently udating 33 packages
[11:20] <tmccrary> well that's interesting
[11:20] <Code-E> !pie
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <ladydoor> that goes even for misspelled cursing
[11:20] <Code-E> !tell Code-E about makefile
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about makefile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <tmccrary> The ASUS mobo comes with a disc with GPL'd drivers on it for the NIC! Wow!
[11:20] <Code-E> darn!
[11:20] <ladydoor> Code-E: don't harass the bot
[11:20] <Zolace> Magnet there are many deb and dec-scr lines :P
[11:20] <Code-E> sorry ladydoor
[11:20] <Code-E> Does anybody know how to use make files
[11:20] <ladydoor> Code-E: no worries
[11:20] <Code-E> or how to configure apps?
[11:21] <TwilightVampire> I accidently deleted my splash screens and want to fix them. More info can be found at the following link http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261931
[11:21] <magnet> Zolace: yep you must remove the hashes of all of them
[11:21] <Zolace> Ok ty
[11:21] <synjet> Code-E 1) ./configure, 2) make 3) make install (but read the instructions given for better idea)
[11:21] <damousys> twilightvampire try: apt-cache search flash
[11:21] <Paddy_EIRE> ladydoor: when I did "killall gnome-panel" it never brought the amsn tray icon back up is there anyway I can bring this back up so i can sign out lol
[11:21] <damousys> twilightvampire try: apt-cache search ubuntu
[11:22] <ladydoor> Paddy_EIRE: i don't know--i don't use gnome or msn
[11:22] <lassegs> paradizelost,  synjet, i dont know about quicksilver, but both Windows' Approcket and Colibri is quite good at that. The app-launcher tries to guess witch app you try to find by guessing the appname with the highest percent same characters as what you typed
[11:22] <Paddy_EIRE> k, never mind
[11:22] <magnet> TwilightVampire: when David Corrales tells you to remove usplash, he doesn't say "remove the directory"
[11:22] <Code-E> cody@cody-desktop:~/rar$ make
[11:22] <Code-E> bash: make: command not found
[11:22] <Code-E> cody@cody-desktop:~/rar$ ./configure
[11:22] <Code-E> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[11:22] <Code-E> cody@cody-desktop:~/rar$ make install
[11:22] <Code-E> bash: make: command not found
[11:22] <Code-E> what the heck
[11:22] <ladydoor> Paddy_EIRE: sorry
[11:22] <ladydoor> !paste
[11:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:22] <magnet> TwilightVampire: he says sudo apt-get --purge remove usplash
[11:22] <Neo8750> Paddy_EIRE: why not just do a kill on msn and then reload it
[11:22] <jrib> Code-E: rar is in the repositories
[11:22] <Code-E> there is a file in there called makefile
[11:22] <magnet> TwilightVampire: then sudo aptitude install usplash
[11:22] <boink> damm, what is that again?
[11:22] <mrDaniel> is a text-to-speech software for linux/ubuntu available?
[11:23] <loutrine> Paddy_EIRE: Click on the amsn icon again, it should bring up the window
[11:23] <Wolfpaws> where can I find Reiser4 module?
[11:23] <Paddy_EIRE> Neo8750: yeah i suppose so :P
[11:23] <ladydoor> Code-E: you need to install build-essential
[11:23] <boink> not apt-get install make, but all of those binaries
[11:23] <boink> !build-essential
[11:23] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:23] <Zolace> Magnet, i did the update and it downloaded some stuff, like updates/main packages etc etc but still cant find package xchat
[11:23] <Paddy_EIRE> loutrine: it just loads a new instance
[11:23] <synjet> Code-E: 2 things, if you have more lines of output to share with others here, use pastebin, and 2ndly, configuring making varies from app to app
[11:23] <TheGateKeeper> Code-E: have you installed build-essential ??
[11:23] <boink> and is that apt-get install build-essential ?
[11:23] <TwilightVampire> Magnet, I ended up removing it completly later
[11:23] <loutrine> oh, pkill then :P
[11:23] <lassegs> paradizelost, synjet,  where do i go if i want to help out the kind gnome people with their work, and lead them on the right path?
[11:23] <ladydoor> Code-E: also, you need to do make before you do sudo make install
[11:23] <ladydoor> boink: yup
[11:23] <synjet> !pastbin>Code-E
[11:23] <boink> ta
[11:23] <damousys> does any one knows something of ImageMagick
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <magnet> TwilightVampire: do the commands I gave you anyway
[11:23] <synjet> !pastebin>Code-E
[11:24] <TwilightVampire> Magnet: I just did. Same results
[11:24] <physicsnick> Question, a) Is it worth it to install Xgl and Compiz? and b) Is it easy to revert back to Metacity?
[11:24] <boink> !tell Code-E about pastebin
[11:24] <Renan_s2> use checkinstall instead of make install, it creates a .deb package that can be easily uninstalled.
[11:24] <bmcfarli> !.m4a
[11:24] <Samuli^> jrib, My bad.
[11:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about m4a - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:24] <Paddy_EIRE> neo8
[11:24] <magnet> TwilightVampire: what results?
[11:24] <synjet> lassegs: #gnome
[11:24] <Code-E> TheGateKeeper how do i install build-essential
[11:24] <cyberfr0g> dunno
[11:24] <Neo8750> Paddy_EIRE: ?
[11:24] <magnet> Zolace: you must still miss some repositories
[11:24] <Paddy_EIRE> Neo8750: what would be the proper way to kill amsn
[11:24] <Zolace> Hmm i think i might have
[11:24] <boink> Code-E: apt-get install build-essential
[11:24] <damousys> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:24] <Code-E> k thanks
[11:24] <damousys> grr
[11:24] <lassegs> synjet, theres no activity there
[11:24] <Neo8750> ps ax | grep msn
[11:24] <magnet> Zolace: xchat is definitely available in the universe
[11:24] <TwilightVampire> Magnet: the ones I posted in that thread
[11:24] <synjet> lassegs: sorry, no idea
[11:24] <Neo8750> then kill -9 pid
[11:25] <jrib> Samuli^: quick tip is to use 'strings /usr/bin/glxgears' since it's not well documented
[11:25] <Code-E> ok the files are now downloaded
[11:25] <magnet> TwilightVampire: you did the --purge ? then install?
[11:25] <TheGateKeeper> Code-E: apt-get install build-essential
[11:25] <boink> good luck then
[11:25] <TwilightVampire> Magnet: correct
[11:25] <physicsnick> Anyone here running Xgl and Compiz?
[11:25] <damousys> yep
[11:25] <Samuli^> jrib, Thanks, That command might come handy.
[11:25] <physicsnick> Is it good?
[11:25] <FurryNemesis> yep
[11:25] <TheGateKeeper> Code-E: you new to linux?
[11:25] <damousys> hell ya
[11:25] <lassegs> synjet, ok thanx anyway
[11:25] <FurryNemesis> it's shiny and sweet and wow
[11:25] <magnet> TwilightVampire: sudo aptitude reinstall kubuntu-artwork-usplash usplash
[11:25] <damousys> its great
[11:25] <physicsnick> Is it actually useful though?
[11:25] <FurryNemesis> yep
[11:25] <physicsnick> Or does it just look fancy?
[11:25] <damousys> both
[11:26] <physicsnick> Sweet.
[11:26] <physicsnick> How much ram do you need?
[11:26] <FurryNemesis> hella useful and looks good too
[11:26] <damousys> i have 512
[11:26] <Code-E> TheGateKeeper: kind of I used it before but not for long
[11:26] <FurryNemesis> recommend about 512
[11:26] <physicsnick> I only have 512mb
[11:26] <FurryNemesis> I have 1gb
[11:26] <FurryNemesis> should be fine
[11:26] <TheGateKeeper> Code-E: sudo apt-get install build-essential  (ooops I forgot the sudo)
[11:30] <SatanGolga> :)
[11:32] <magnet> bouh :)
[11:32] <damousys> what was happening
[11:32] <Paddy_EIRE> err
[11:32] <tyler-wylie> lol
[11:32] <Samuli^> mycroes, you might want to ask about that on #ubuntu+1 then.
[11:32] <mycroes> weeeeeee
[11:32] <ryanakca> !netsplit
[11:32] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[11:32] <beuno> netsplits are always fun
[11:32] <bmcfarli> when i go to install the bad plugins this is what it says..Depends: liblame0 (>=3.96.1-1) but it is not installable
[11:32] <mycroes> Samuli^, #ubuntu+1?
[11:32] <Zolace> I still cant see my userlist :(
[11:32] <beuno> aaaah, we didn't have the wikipedia to explain in the ol' days....
[11:32] <TheGateKeeper> Code-E: man:unrar
[11:32] <Code-E> ?
[11:32] <damousys> owke
[11:32] <Samuli^> mycroes, that's the channel for edgy. This is for dapper.
[11:32] <zoidberg> can anyone help me out with using NCPMOUNT?
[11:32] <Code-E> man:unrar?
[11:32] <mycroes> Samuli^, it's all ubuntu, isn't it ;)
[11:33] <mycroes> Samuli^, I'm new to ubuntu, but I'm more chatting around
[11:33] <TheGateKeeper> Code-E: will give you the manual page for it, i.e. tell you how to use it
[11:33] <damousys> Magick++          --with-magick-plus-plus=yes   no (failed tests)
[11:33] <thread> What's up with windows xp detecting my partitions like this? I installed it first (on the first partition), then ubuntu after it. Now windows is corrupted (might possibly be due to a bad shutdown) and it won't recognize the FAT32 type partition anymore! http://threadbox.net/pict0003.jpg http://threadbox.net/fdisk.txt
[11:33] <Code-E> No manual entry for unrar
[11:33] <thread> ... so I can't even reinstall windows
[11:33] <Samuli^> mycroes, you can by all means stay here too, I'm just saying that that is the official channel for edgy and edgy problems.
[11:33] <strangy> mornin'
[11:34] <magnet> TwilightVampire: ok well, the file you need is NOT in the usplash package (for some reason); now the question is: in which package is it? :) let me find out..
[11:34] <TheGateKeeper> Code-E: well there is always google :-)
[11:34] <Code-E> lol
[11:34] <TwilightVampire> Magnet: thank you
[11:34] <Code-E> once im done with that other thing
[11:34] <mycroes> Samuli^, I understand, thanks for pointing out about +1 though, might proof useful
[11:34] <Code-E> I have slow internet :-(
[11:34] <beuno> Code-E: as far as I know, unrar is a link to rar
[11:34] <beuno> so man rar
[11:34] <Code-E> k
[11:34] <beuno> should give you about the same
[11:35] <magnet> TwilightVampire: enter this: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[11:35] <Samuli^> mycroes, yeah, I think you have better luck getting answers there for edgy-specific problems. People here tend to assume you're using dapper or breezy.
[11:35] <kata> Hi, I could use some help... I need to install glib, but I can't find the proper package name. I tried "apt-get install glib", but it didn't work.
[11:35] <synjet> Code-E: what are you running? 6.06 has "man unrar"
[11:35] <Code-E> synjet that's what im using
[11:35] <strangy> !kernel-patches-vserver
[11:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernel-patches-vserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:35] <TwilightVampire> Magnet: It says "nothing to configure"
[11:35] <magnet> TwilightVampire: ls -l /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so ?
[11:35] <synjet> kata: glib has many things.. so apt-get didnt install
[11:36] <synjet> kata: see apt-cache search glib
[11:36] <uter_> hi , i am a newbie with Linux / Ubuntu - can somebody helps me with ghostscript ?
[11:36] <magnet> uter_: help you with? :)
[11:36] <TwilightVampire> Magnet: Here is the output "lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 42 2006-09-20 21:03 /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so -> /usr/local/lib/usplash/yourimage-splash.so"
[11:36] <habeeb> Greetings, I cant play mp3s. I followed that restricted format page, and installed: gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs . But still nothing.
[11:36] <synjet> uter_: halloween spl? ;) shoot, somebody will pick up the q
[11:36] <magnet> !codecs
[11:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:37] <magnet> TwilightVampire: ok, ls -l /usr/local/lib/usplash/
[11:37] <habeeb> magnet: I said I followed what RestrictedFormats was saying.. and I still cant play mp3s. And I have to play mp3s , and not encode them to ogg vorbis :/
[11:37] <magnet> please :)
[11:37] <Code-E> I like
[11:38] <kata> synjet: Ok, so what do I have here? Is it a list of all packages that have to do with glib or what?
[11:38] <magnet> habeeb: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
[11:38] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[11:38] <boink> is there somewhere an ubuntu .deb for lame?
[11:38] <synjet> kata: well you have to see what the prev error was pointing to.. what were you trying to install?
[11:38] <loutrine> habeeb: this worked for me, sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs
[11:38] <TwilightVampire> Magnet: The output is starting to get kinda long, can we have a private chat? I dont want to clog up this room
[11:38] <physicsnick> Is anyone else having a problem installing the latest Flash update? Just yesterday it started bugging me to update flash, and it gives me this error:
[11:38] <uter_> @magnet :  i wanted to downgrade my currently ghostscript version because i have troubles with my new printer (sorry i am a newbie on irc ,too *G*)
[11:39] <physicsnick> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:39] <physicsnick>  flashplugin-nonfree
[11:39] <physicsnick> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:39] <magnet> boink: sudo apt-get install lame
[11:39] <magnet> TwilightVampire: please do
[11:39] <magnet> (pm)
[11:39] <Code-E> Is there anyway i can tweak my internet. my download speed keeps going down to 1kbs but it should be 17kbs
[11:39] <boink> it's an ubuntu .deb? ok
[11:39] <physicsnick> The old version of flash still works fine, but it keeps trying to install it every time I run apt-get.
[11:39] <hou5ton> got a video question .... I'm trying to get Ubutu to let me watch video on MSNBC.  When I click on the "launch" button on the page, it tells me that I need to install windows media, and when I put the URL in MPlayer, it gives me the following error:  Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6:javascript
[11:39] <Samuli^> physicsnick, Quite a lot of people are having that problem right now.
[11:39] <synjet> boink: hehe your q sounded differently to me..
[11:39] <physicsnick> Ah, good.
[11:39] <Samuli^> physicsnick, hopefully they will post an update soon.
[11:40] <kata> synjet: an avi-plugin for xmms... the error message was: configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***
[11:40] <boink> the policies with mp3 is sometimes confusing
[11:40] <vincenz> Where should I look for information on hwo to encrypt with ubuntu?
[11:40] <boink> !mp3
[11:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:40] <uter_> @magnet :  i wanted to downgrade my currently ghostscript version because i have troubles with my new printer (sorry i am a newbie on irc ,too *G*)
[11:40] <physicsnick> Thanks Samuli^ .
[11:40] <boink> guess it's good to start there
[11:40] <magnet> uter_: and don't repeat yourself ;)
[11:40] <Code-E> !media
[11:40] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:40] <uter_> ok - sorry ^^
[11:40] <magnet> uter_: I, too, need to think ;)
[11:40] <magnet> uter_: I don't know why you'd need ghostscript; isn't your printer a postscript printer?
[11:41] <bmcfarli> !liblame0
[11:41] <ubotu> liblame0: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 147 kB, installed size 376 kB
[11:41] <uter_> its a HP Color Laserjet 2600n it works fine but only with black / white (no color) and i read on linuxprinting.org that i have to change my ghostscript version
[11:42] <bmcfarli> anyone know about this liblame0?
[11:42] <magnet> uter_: have you tried just installing it from the printers pannel?
[11:42] <teenprogrammer> hi
[11:42] <ladydoor> bmcfarli: look up a little bit to what the ubotu (a bot) said about it
[11:42] <synjet> kata: sorry, I did try googling, but invain
[11:42] <uter_> yes
[11:43] <magnet> uter_: and it doesn't work?
[11:43] <botxj> so when installing stuff, like XGL, if there is a deb package for it, it's better to do it that way instead of compiling and make installing?
[11:43] <uter_> it works only with black and white (its a Lan-Printer) - on windows i dont have this Problems
[11:43] <bmcfarli> right but how do i download that? i am such a noob
[11:43] <lupine_85> botxj: generally yes :)
[11:43] <kata>  synjet: OK, thanks anyway.
[11:43] <botxj> hmm :)
[11:44] <magnet> uter_: should it work in colors too?
[11:44] <uter_> yes
[11:44] <teenprogrammer> I just tried to install Linux Drivers
[11:44] <teenprogrammer> for my VC
[11:44] <magnet> oh :) you should've told it lol
[11:44] <hou5ton> before I get too deep into this, when I think i may already have everything installed as it should be, could someone else on Dapper see if they can play the video in question?  Could it be that it might not really be possible, since it's on a MS owned site?  Go here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3080261/  and you'll see the Jon Stewart for President video.  See if you can play that.  Anyone?
[11:44] <teenprogrammer> and well . . . it didnt work XD
[11:44] <uter_> on windows - no probs --> with ubuntu there is a problem with the currently ghostscript version (@linuxprinting.org)
[11:45] <magnet> uter_: have you checked in the printer properties if it isn't in economy mode or black & white mode?
[11:45] <uter_> yes i changed this settings
[11:45] <magnet> uter_: let's just forget linuxprinting for a sec :)
[11:45] <bmcfarli> !Version 3.96.1-1
[11:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Version 3.96.1-1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:45] <uter_> ok ;)
[11:45] <bmcfarli> !liblame
[11:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about liblame - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:45] <Code-E> is there a way so i can play windows games?
[11:45] <bmcfarli> !liblame0
[11:45] <ubotu> liblame0: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 147 kB, installed size 376 kB
[11:45] <uter_> but i read it on foo2hpj - too ;)
[11:45] <Code-E> other then cedega
[11:45] <tuxtux> notte a tutti
[11:45] <damousys> yep try WINE
[11:45] <Code-E> k
[11:46] <Code-E> i have wine installed
[11:46] <damousys> or CEDEGA but you have to pay for that
[11:46] <jcompton> Anybody have a suggestion for a new install (xubuntu-ppc, blue G3) where X seems to insist on starting up with a wildly out-of-range screenmode? The .conf file appears to have correct monitor data, and tweaking it slightly to the mfr spec doesn't change anything--still opens with out-of-range screen.
[11:46] <teenprogrammer> I like, installed the drivers for my ati card, but when i booted, i could hear linux loading but the screen was like Error: Index out of range
[11:46] <teenprogrammer> or something like that
[11:46] <magnet> uter_: ok then, I don't know how to change the ghostscript version, don't they say how to do it too? :)
[11:46] <uter_> no :(
[11:46] <alternative3> hi people. I would like to as k you a dumb question, just to change: does ubuntu have that cube desktop cool stuff [xgl?]  [compiz?]  on it ?
[11:46] <Code-E> k im gonna leave now
[11:46] <uter_> and there are no binarys too find with old versions :(
[11:46] <ericz> is there a recommended size for a swap partition, or certain ratio to primary partition or RAM you should have
[11:46] <tmccrary> okay I was wrong, ASUS is a damn fine company
[11:47] <beuno> alternative3: Edgy comes with AIGLX by default
[11:47] <sethk> ericz, no
[11:47] <FurryNemesis> hou5ton, I can get the frame up
[11:47] <beuno> (meaning that yes, cool cube n stuff)
[11:47] <sethk> ericz, there are ancient numbers like that, but they don't apply to modern systems
[11:47] <boink> !send to boink mp3
[11:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about send to boink mp3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:47] <uter_> i tried to install the source but this wasnt work
[11:47] <cbx33> hi all I have a hdd which had an ubuntu install, and has an lvm partition on it
[11:47] <cbx33> I really need to get the data off
[11:47] <ericz> sethk, alright, thanks
[11:47] <hou5ton> FurryNemesis:  ya ... great ... will it play?
[11:47] <synjet> ericz: I heard it is nice to have twice the RAM as swap
[11:47] <cbx33> anyway to do so?
[11:47] <boink> !mpe
[11:47] <boink> !mp3
[11:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:47] <cbx33> can I mount the lvm partition from within a dapper install?
[11:47] <alternative3> beuno: ok, but is that what I talked about ?
[11:47] <hou5ton> FurryNemesis:  I'll try it with IE on wine real quick and see what happens
[11:47] <beuno> alternative3: yeap
[11:48] <magnet> uter_: mhh, have you tried an alternative driver supplied with ubuntu?
[11:48] <FurryNemesis> hou5ton, got flash?
[11:48] <uter_> can you give me a tip with irc how can you change your colors in the chat (that i can read you better)
[11:48] <hou5ton> FurryNemesis:  ya
[11:48] <alternative3> beuno: naa! i'm talking about xgl, and the stuf that novell put first -- is it ? well, ok I assume it is
[11:48] <FurryNemesis> hou5ton, only thing is, the latest flash for linux is 7
[11:48] <FurryNemesis> that thing might need 8 or 9
[11:49] <uter_> all ghostscript versions works with the same versions - only the foo2hpj are avaible
[11:49] <hou5ton> FurryNemesis:  it won't work in IE on wine either
[11:49] <beuno> alternative3: yes, XGL is currently working on Ubuntu, and AIGLX is an equivalent which uses much less resources (although it only works on ATi cards at the moment)
[11:49] <vlt> Hello. I try to playback audio. How can I tell amaroK which alsa device to use?
[11:49] <magnet> uter_: when I speak to you I type your nickname, so the line should be highlighted
[11:49] <pestilence> is it ok to kill fsck while it's running?  or will i lose all my data :)
[11:49] <magnet> (please do the same with me)
[11:49] <uter_> \magnet test
[11:50] <beuno> pestilence: I don't think you will loose anything, but killing that kind of stuff isn't recommended
[11:50] <uter_> magnet test
[11:50] <FurryNemesis> hou5ton, well, nuts
[11:50] <alternative3> beuno: lessressources, this is good. bnut only on ATi.. it's not lol
[11:50] <pestilence> beuno, damn, guess my laptop is staying at work tonight.
[11:50] <magnet> uter_: yep fine thx ;)
[11:50] <uter_> ;)
[11:50] <alternative3> beuno: by esuivalent you mean All the features? the windows moving across the cube,
[11:50] <beuno> pestilence: lol, that bad?
[11:50] <alternative3> the translucency
[11:50] <alternative3> the windows shaking a bit
[11:50] <alternative3> ^^
[11:51] <pestilence> beuno, well, it's a 2tb raid that is being checked, it's gonna take a while.  i forgot to run inside screen :-(
[11:51] <pestilence> i was thinking about ctrl-c and restarting inside screen
[11:51] <beuno> pestilence: even though, I take no responsibility, my bet is that nothing will happen
[11:51] <beuno> alternative3: yes, absolutely, I'm running it as we speak
[11:52] <pestilence> beuno, my tendancy with this much data is to err on the side of caution.
[11:52] <uter_> magnet - do you know how i can change my currently version to the old 7 version ? are there any archives or something like that which i can download with apt-get or synaptics?
[11:52] <alternative3> beuno: cool :D thanks
[11:52] <lupine_85> as long as it's not actually fixing something when you ctrl+c it, it "should" be ok
[11:52] <lupine_85> a program like fsck is going to exit gracefully
[11:52] <beuno> pestilence: safe bet
[11:53] <beuno> alternative3: there a quite a few how-to's in the ubuntuforums on installing XGL or AIGLX (compiz)
[11:53] <magnet> uter_: you have to get an old package and tell aptitude not to update the package; that's tricky... you should ask on ubuntuforums because it will require someone who knows a bit more than me on printing stuff
[11:53] <beuno> here's some info on AIGLX:  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RenderingProject/aiglx
[11:53] <magnet> I happen to buy my printers *because* they're easy to setup on Debian ;)
[11:53] <teenprogrammer> I installed some graphc card drivers
[11:54] <teenprogrammer> and
[11:54] <uter_> magnet ok but thx for the time and for the irc tip ;)
[11:54] <teenprogrammer> they worked i guess
[11:54] <magnet> uter_: brb
[11:54] <magnet> ok good luck :)
[11:54] <teenprogrammer> but i do not think they are configured
[11:54] <teenprogrammer> correctly
[11:54] <hou5ton> FurryNemesis:  when I just tried to install the gmail notifier, I got this warning: E: flashplugin-nonfree: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[11:54] <ladydoor> hou5ton: that's unrelated--it's nothing to worry about. it's a problem with flash
[11:54] <tmccrary> !theoderaadt
[11:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about theoderaadt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:55] <lmanul> Hey there, any native English speaker here?
[11:55] <tmccrary> yikes
[11:55] <boink> some
[11:55] <teenprogrammer> yes
[11:55] <ladydoor> lmanul: this is the native english support channel
[11:55] <tmccrary> yes
[11:55] <hou5ton> ladydoor:  great ... and i see that the gmail notifier works anyway
[11:55] <dracius> hola
[11:55] <teenprogrammer> I have a question
[11:55] <boink> ask
[11:55] <ladydoor> hou5ton: great
[11:55] <Neo8750> [17:55]  DCC received CTCP SEND with invalid parameters from cakzhb <---- hey hey hey!!
[11:55] <dracius> somewhere spanish
[11:55] <lmanul> ladydoor: well, many non-native speakers ask & answer questions, don't they ? :)
[11:55] <ncalpunker> Can someone recomend a good way to run ubuntu inside windows (virtual machine)?
[11:55] <alternative3> beuno: I'm looking at it ;)
[11:56] <sethk> !es
[11:56] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:56] <ladydoor> lmanul: yup
[11:56] <lmanul> ladydoor: would you mind if I /queried you for a very quick question?
[11:56] <vincenz> Anyone know what the best way is to encrypt partitions?
[11:56] <ladydoor> lmanul: it's better to ask the whole channel
[11:56] <hou5ton> You know ... I don't know what good IE on wine is, when the only two things I put it on there for, it doesn't work anyway
[11:56] <tmccrary> ncalplunker: Get vmware player, it's free
[11:56] <teenprogrammer> lol, k, well. I installed some grapic card drivers for linux.
[11:56] <mdasilva_> how do i solve "not in gzip format" issues with updating apt-get?
[11:56] <vlt> Hello. Can anyone tell me how to set the alsa device amaroK should use?
[11:56] <physicsnick> Alright, I just installed Xgl and Compiz. Rebooting. Here's hoping it comes back up...
[11:57] <alternative3> see ya
[11:57] <lmanul> ladydoor: it's not about Ubuntu (although I'm an Ubuntu dev, that's why I came here for advice ^^)
[11:57] <teenprogrammer> and i did everything this tutral told me to do. And when i rebooted it was like, index out of range
[11:57] <teenprogrammer> or something like that
[11:57] <teenprogrammer> I need to know how to configure my Graphics Card Drivers
[11:57] <teenprogrammer> I guess
[11:57] <ladydoor> lmanul: aha. well, actually i'd honestly rather you didn't pm me. it's nothing personal, i'm just snarky like that.
[11:57] <synjet> vincenz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120091
[11:58] <lmanul> ladydoor: all right, no problem :)
[11:58] <vincenz> synjet: thx
[11:58] <vincenz> synjet: what iis the difference between dm-crypt and using a loop device?
[11:58] <teenprogrammer> How do i configure my Graphic card?
[11:59] <jojoman02> how do i rename a folder in linux (from terminal?)
[11:59] <synjet> vincenz: sorry, no idea
[11:59] <boink> man mv
[11:59] <vlt> jojoman02: mv
[11:59] <beuno> jojomoan02:  rename
[11:59] <beuno> or
[11:59] <ladydoor> jojoman02: mv foldername newfoldername
[11:59] <Neo8750> jojoman02: mv orginal new
[11:59] <beuno> mv
[11:59] <boink> !mv
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:59] <vincenz> Anyone know what the main difference is between loop deviced and dm-crypt?
[11:59] <beuno> !rename
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rename - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:59] <vlt> teenprogrammer: try `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`
[11:59] <boink> a few things to add
[12:00] <beuno> yeap yeap
[12:00] <_tom_> !manpage
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about manpage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <beuno> !sex
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <jojoman02> ok, so move basically...
[12:00] <beuno> it was too temtping...
[12:00] <teenprogrammer> vlt: I did that, and then when i rebooted it messed up, i probobly configured it wrong. Thanks, i will try to reconfigure porperly
[12:00] <sharperguy> beuno: ahem
[12:00] <Samuli^> beuno, no it wasn't :)
[12:00] <Neo8750> 372 frames in 5.6 seconds = 66.663 FPS mmmmm
[12:00] <beuno> jojoman02: yes, or rename, both work
[12:00] <vlt> Can anyone tell me how to set the alsa device amaroK should use?
[12:00] <beuno> sorry :(
[12:00] <zithowa> i would like to get transparent network audio going.  does anybody have experience with this?  it seems ESD is the only option
[12:01] <beuno> vlt: try ESD