| imbrandon | yea it was kinda interesting | 12:13 |
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| imbrandon | heh | 12:13 |
| imbrandon | ahh just read the mail on u-devel | 12:15 |
| imbrandon | its a psudo freeze left upto the developer for now about things needed only critical for beta | 12:15 |
| imbrandon | whoops | 12:15 |
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| Hobbsee | hah | 12:16 |
| imbrandon | Other low-risk bugfix-only uploads are still OK for now, but expect uploads | 12:16 |
| imbrandon | to start requiring approval very soon. | 12:16 |
| imbrandon | ^^ tagged at the end heheh | 12:17 |
| imbrandon | heh i wish ubuntu-devel wasent full of so much junk i would read it more, but most of the time the thread turn into long rambling things hard to follow | 12:18 |
| Hobbsee | true that | 12:20 |
| Hobbsee | i want a button that says "dont email me about the rest of this subject" | 12:20 |
| imbrandon | hahaha how true | 12:20 |
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| DaSkreech | One of his TODO was something brought up in the meeting | 12:23 |
| DaSkreech | Well I'm off night a | 12:38 |
| gnomefreak | Hobbsee: make it (all of 10 mins) add it to the depends of ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop so on when you use echo make sure it says Hobbsee said "dont email me about the rest of this subject" :) | 12:54 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: hmmm? | 12:55 |
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| gnomefreak | just a reminder button :) | 12:56 |
| abattoir | Riddell: yes i did, havent heard from him yet though | 01:01 |
| Riddell | abattoir: well he'll be sleeping, but good to get it in tomorrow | 01:02 |
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| nixternal | hiya Hobbsee! | 01:02 |
| Hobbsee | hey nixternal | 01:02 |
| nixternal | just noticed ya was hangin' out | 01:03 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: explain to that to me when i get back :P | 01:03 |
| Hobbsee | actually, i'm out | 01:03 |
| Hobbsee | my battery's about to die | 01:03 |
| abattoir | Riddell: i sent it around 5 hrs. ago, and he seems to have been online(active) after that, but still :) | 01:03 |
| nixternal | whee | 01:03 |
| nixternal | later Hobbsee | 01:03 |
| abattoir | hi nixternal, Hobbsee :) | 01:03 |
| Hobbsee | heya | 01:03 |
| nixternal | hiya abattoir! | 01:03 |
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| nixternal | dinner sounds good | 01:03 |
| nixternal | her battery just died ;) | 01:03 |
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| jdong | startkeylogger :P | 02:29 |
| jdong | (you can tell jdong has just taken his pain medication when.......) | 02:30 |
| Jucato_ | jdong: any news on flash? | 02:30 |
| jdong | Jucato_: I haven't been able to ping infinity yet | 02:31 |
| jdong | even the candles-and-circles routine didn't work | 02:31 |
| jdong | but it MIGHT be something about the 5 fricking Openoffice builds that are holding things up :P | 02:31 |
| Jucato_ | hm... maybe you didn't ping long enough? after all he is infinite :P | 02:31 |
| Jucato_ | oh well, goog thing I don't need to use sites w/ flash that much :) | 02:32 |
| jdong | Jucato_: does your flash not work?? | 02:32 |
| jdong | Jucato_: install the edgy package | 02:32 |
| jdong | it should be binary-compatible with dapper | 02:33 |
| Jucato_ | hm... ok. just download it from p.u.c? | 02:33 |
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| jdong | Jucato_: yep | 02:34 |
| Jucato_ | and I'll just remove it when the fixed update is available? | 02:35 |
| jdong | Jucato_: you can if you want, it's not harmful to have it. it'll be binary-identical to the backported package | 02:35 |
| Jucato_ | ah ok. thanks! :) | 02:36 |
| jdong | Jucato_: flash is flash is flash.... the package is nothing more than a fancy version of wget and tar -xzvf :) | 02:36 |
| Jucato_ | heh, well, I try not to deal with .tar.gz if I can :P | 02:36 |
| Jucato_ | yay working now. thanks! :P | 02:40 |
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| crimsun | fabo: hobbsee was subbed, and I presumed she'd have a better idea regarding whether the dh_iconcache(1) delta had been subsumed (I didn't have time atm to grab the new source package to check) | 02:45 |
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| bddebian | Howdy | 03:06 |
| jjesse | howdy | 03:06 |
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| Riddell | jjesse: is the switching guide good to include? | 03:45 |
| Riddell | nixternal: ^^ | 03:52 |
| jjesse | Riddell: no i isn't | 03:54 |
| jjesse | Riddell: sorry was walkin the dog | 03:54 |
| Riddell | jjesse: it didn't get finished? | 03:54 |
| Riddell | hmm, doesn't validate | 03:54 |
| jjesse | Riddell: not for kubuntu, it is finished for ubuntu | 03:55 |
| Riddell | humbug | 03:55 |
| jjesse | sorry it seems the docs are the best this release for sme reason :( | 03:55 |
| jjesse | not only for kubuntu but also ubuntu | 03:56 |
| jjesse | and i don't know why, too short of schedule?, not enough interest? focus elsewhere? don't really understand why this time | 03:58 |
| jjesse | but swiching guide is first and foremost for kubuntu, its started and will be finished | 04:01 |
| Riddell | jjesse: any idea how to update the .pot files in the docs? | 04:01 |
| jjesse | Riddell: no, but i can check | 04:02 |
| Riddell | jjesse: will be finished by not for edgy? | 04:02 |
| jjesse | edgy +1 | 04:02 |
| jjesse | Riddell: are you paying attetion to #ubuntu-docs? | 04:06 |
| Riddell | jjesse: docs uploaded, please apply this to the svn archive http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kubuntu-docs.diff | 04:26 |
| nixternal | Riddell: i did the kubuntu .pot files earlier today | 04:27 |
| nixternal | jjesse: are you applying that patch? or shall i? | 04:30 |
| jjesse | nixternal: can you, i'm busy right now trying to finish the updated chapter | 04:30 |
| nixternal | alright | 04:30 |
| nixternal | will do | 04:30 |
| nixternal | done | 04:33 |
| imbrandon | gnight nixternal , Riddell , Jucato , and * | 05:13 |
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| nixternal | g'nite | 05:13 |
| Jucato | night imbrandon!!! :) | 05:13 |
| nixternal | i gotta go to | 05:13 |
| nixternal | heading to canada in like 6 hours | 05:13 |
| imbrandon | cutiecoder? | 05:13 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 05:13 |
| nixternal | ouch | 05:13 |
| Jucato | heh | 05:13 |
| nixternal | i thought she was in wv | 05:13 |
| imbrandon | thought you might be going to visit her | 05:13 |
| nixternal | heh, she comes here bud | 05:13 |
| imbrandon | i thought ca | 05:13 |
| imbrandon | dunno i dont talk to her much | 05:14 |
| nixternal | i have no clue..i am a best man in a wedding | 05:14 |
| imbrandon | anyway, gnight | 05:14 |
| nixternal | wheee | 05:14 |
| Jucato | if cutiecoder becomes a developer, Hobbsee's gonna have some competition :P | 05:14 |
| nixternal | g'nite | 05:14 |
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| imbrandon | Jucato: she never will, not enough disipline | 05:14 |
| Jucato | heh. it would be fun to watch though. Hobbsee's whip vs. cutiecoder's guns :P | 05:15 |
| imbrandon | ZzzzZzzZzzZ | 05:15 |
| nixternal | ya right ;0 | 05:15 |
| nixternal | damn shift button | 05:15 |
| Jucato | heh | 05:15 |
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| fabo | crimsun: do you know if dh_iconcache will be introduced in debian ? | 08:38 |
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| crimsun | fabo: Last I know it's under discussion | 09:24 |
| fabo | crimsun: there's many package now that use dh_iconcache, and it's difficult to sync "as is" debian package while dh_iconcache isn't available | 09:41 |
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| crimsun | unfortunately the prerogative isn't Kubuntu's | 10:17 |
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| Jucato | Hobbsee! :) | 11:32 |
| Hobbsee | hey Jucato | 11:34 |
| fabo | Hobbsee: could you re-confirm 61845 and 61847. scott james remnant prefers new bug reports than re-opening | 11:36 |
| Hobbsee | right.... | 11:36 |
| Hobbsee | bug 61845 | 11:36 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 61845 in icecc "Please sync icecc 0.7.14 (universe) from Debian Sid (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61845 | 11:36 |
| Hobbsee | bug 61847 | 11:36 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 61847 in clucene-core "Please sync clucene-core (universe) from Debian Sid (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61847 | 11:36 |
| Hobbsee | fabo: done | 11:40 |
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| Tonio_ | hi | 11:43 |
| Jucato | hi Tonio_ | 11:44 |
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| fabo | Hobbsee: thanks | 11:50 |
| Hobbsee | fabo: :) | 11:51 |
| === fabo go to the airport :) | ||
| fabo | akademy time ;) | 11:51 |
| fabo | see you later | 11:51 |
| Hobbsee | have fun! | 11:51 |
| Jucato | nice | 11:51 |
| Jucato | good luck aKademy guys! | 11:51 |
| fabo | hehe :) | 11:51 |
| Jucato | have fun (but not too much) :P | 11:52 |
| === fabo is away | ||
| Jucato | heh.. if only there were live video feeds for the aKademy... I'm gonna be glued to my chair... | 11:52 |
| === Hobbsee curses her boss | ||
| === Jucato helps Hobbsee with her whip/sword/whatever_she's_holding | ||
| Hobbsee | yeah, well, i wouldnt mind... | 11:58 |
| Hobbsee | you do not exploit your employees by asking them to work at a particular time, waiting until they say yes, and then go "oh, you're working in another section entirely" | 11:59 |
| Hobbsee | ie, gotcha | 11:59 |
| Hobbsee | tha'ts not what i agreed to do - and she doesnt accept the word "no" | 11:59 |
| Jucato | grr.. | 11:59 |
| Hobbsee | *wonders where this duty manager position is* | 12:00 |
| Hobbsee | bugger, bet it's in grocery. *grumbles* | 12:01 |
| Jucato | so you're still at work? | 12:01 |
| Hobbsee | no, i dont have a net connection at work | 12:02 |
| Hobbsee | wish i did | 12:02 |
| Jucato | ah | 12:03 |
| Hobbsee | i was out doing fun things today | 12:03 |
| Hobbsee | therefore not being online | 12:05 |
| === Hobbsee adds bilo's second number to her contacts, and s/bilo/do not call/ | ||
| === Jucato wonders what "fun" things Hobbsee did... | ||
| Hobbsee | er, s/bilo/do not answer/ | 12:05 |
| Hobbsee | i'm not telling :P | 12:05 |
| Jucato | hah | 12:05 |
| Hobbsee | oh....sucky, i cant work where i want to work | 12:08 |
| === Hobbsee wonders if she can transfer, even with a job not available | ||
| Hobbsee | before i go nuts, and/or injure myself too badly | 12:09 |
| Jucato | are we talking about work-work or work-kubuntu? | 12:09 |
| Hobbsee | work work | 12:09 |
| Jucato | ah | 12:09 |
| Hobbsee | i like kubuntu stuff :) | 12:09 |
| Jucato | heh | 12:09 |
| Jucato | specially when your X goes bonkers on you | 12:09 |
| Hobbsee | hah, yeah | 12:10 |
| Hobbsee | still havent booted to that kernel again yet | 12:10 |
| Jucato | 2.6.17-28 was it? | 12:10 |
| Hobbsee | Sysinfo for 'LongPointyStickOfDoom': Linux 2.6.17-7-generic running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: MobileIntel(R)Celeron(R)CPU2.40GHz at 2394 MHz (4793 bogomips), , RAM: 932/994MB, 102 proc's, 42.33min up | 12:10 |
| Hobbsee | 2.6.17-8-generic broke on me | 12:10 |
| Jucato | ah -8... | 12:10 |
| === Hobbsee nods | ||
| Jucato | hm.. haven't booted into it yet on the "real" Edgy. but virtual Edgy seems fine | 12:11 |
| insanekane | Hobbsee: long pointy stick of doom ? :) | 12:12 |
| Hobbsee | insanekane: yep :) | 12:12 |
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| Hobbsee | Jucato: what's the story with kopete in dapper? it's got 0.12.2? | 12:18 |
| Jucato | still not there | 12:19 |
| Jucato | same with Konversation | 12:19 |
| Jucato | only k3b made it to backports so far | 12:19 |
| kwwii_ | re | 12:21 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: darn, okay | 12:21 |
| Jucato | hi kwwii_!! | 12:21 |
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| kwwii_ | hi Jucato | 12:22 |
| kwwii_ | hi Hobbsee | 12:22 |
| Hobbsee | hey kwwii_ :) | 12:22 |
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| kwwii_ | is Riddell already off to akademy? | 01:25 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: http://www.sabayonlinux.org/ | 01:27 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: the interesting point is that they seem to use compiz, but the window decorator looks like kwin... | 01:28 |
| Tonio_ | strange...... I wonder how they have done that | 01:28 |
| Riddell | kwwii_: nope | 01:28 |
| Tonio_ | hi Riddell | 01:28 |
| kwwii_ | hehe | 01:28 |
| Riddell | hi Tonio_ | 01:28 |
| kwwii_ | hi Riddell | 01:28 |
| kwwii_ | Tonio_: neat marketing there | 01:28 |
| kwwii_ | eggs, wine, and GNU/Linux | 01:29 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: hehe yes ;) | 01:29 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: the point is that the compiz window decorator is not supposed to be themable | 01:29 |
| Tonio_ | that's the strage issue......; I will investigate, since if they have done a kind of binding for kwin themes, that could be VERY interesting | 01:30 |
| kwwii_ | Tonio_: ahhhh, didn't know that | 01:30 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: yes, that's the major issue with compiz, you cannot theme the window decorator, but they are doing it.... | 01:30 |
| kwwii_ | hehe | 01:30 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: if you look at kde based distros with compiz, they all have the same window deco, except this one....... | 01:31 |
| Tonio_ | they have a live cd, I'm downloading | 01:31 |
| kwwii_ | it'll be llike 5 more years till I have a computer with a graphics card that supports that | 01:31 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: just buy a pc ;) | 01:31 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: compiz works nicelly on a low price laptop | 01:32 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: it doesn't need a powerfull machine | 01:32 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=735&slide=10&title=sabayonlinux+3.0+screenshots | 01:33 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: interesting no ? it is the first time I can see a compiz using kwin themes...... | 01:33 |
| Riddell | that looks like the vista window manager theme | 01:35 |
| Riddell | I don't see anything to suggest it's kwin | 01:35 |
| kwwii_ | hehe, they are using the kdm theme I made for suse | 01:36 |
| kwwii_ | I seee that again and again | 01:36 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: afaik compiz is not themable....... | 01:36 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: am I wrong ? | 01:36 |
| Tonio_ | hum yes I'm wrong, it can use gnome themes....... so you're right.... should be that...... | 01:37 |
| Hobbsee | ooh, people | 01:40 |
| === Hobbsee waves to everyone | ||
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: hey ;) | 01:44 |
| Hobbsee | heya Tonio_ | 01:44 |
| === Hobbsee spoke with one of the forums guys today. | ||
| Tonio_ | Riddell: it looks like mdz doesn't want of the new scribus. the reason is that it is more a feature release and there are no mentions to bug resolved, which makes sense... | 01:45 |
| === kwwii_ has to take his son to basketball practice, bbl | ||
| Riddell | Tonio_: fair enough I guess | 01:49 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: how did you get on with koffice? | 01:52 |
| kwwii_ | re | 02:18 |
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| zorglu_ | q. im trying to narrow down the reason of why kded eat 100% cpu on my box, it keep reading on a socket, socket:[18751] according to /proc, how can i convert socket:[18751] to a more readable format ? | 02:46 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: hi | 02:55 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: i never could get past the autoconf thing, i tried it on my amd64 too as you sugested | 02:56 |
| imbrandon | but still same thing | 02:56 |
| imbrandon | make -f Makefile.cvs ( admin/cvs.sh ) cont find autoconf2.6 even with the patch, i manualy checked the file etc | 02:56 |
| imbrandon | thus no ./configure script, thus i couldent get it to build | 02:57 |
| imbrandon | ;( | 02:57 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: it doesn't need the patch, you're going mad :) | 03:00 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: tried "fakeroot debian/rules buildprep" ? | 03:00 |
| Tonio_ | ah autoconf issue....... | 03:01 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: can I look at yout source package ? | 03:01 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: I have time to check today | 03:01 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: ping ? | 03:03 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: yea i know it doesent what i'm getting at is with or without it | 03:03 |
| imbrandon | it still dident like autoconf 2.6 | 03:03 |
| Hobbsee | !ping | 03:04 |
| ubotu | ping: connection timeout | 03:04 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: yea Riddell has the tarball | 03:04 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: pong | 03:04 |
| imbrandon | heya Hobbsee | 03:04 |
| Hobbsee | hiya | 03:04 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: url please ? | 03:04 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: svn koffice or latest available tarball ? | 03:04 |
| imbrandon | neither afaik an unavail tarbal | 03:05 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 03:05 |
| Riddell | http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/koffice-1.5.92.tar.bz2 | 03:05 |
| Riddell | but that's top secret | 03:05 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: sure | 03:06 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm trying a package :) | 03:06 |
| imbrandon | brandon@horatio:~/devel/koffice/koffice-1.5.92$ make -f Makefile.cvs | 03:06 |
| imbrandon | This Makefile is only for the CVS repository | 03:06 |
| imbrandon | This will be deleted before making the distribution | 03:06 |
| imbrandon | ./admin/cvs.sh: 653: --version: not found | 03:06 |
| imbrandon | *** AUTOCONF NOT FOUND!. | 03:06 |
| imbrandon | *** KDE requires autoconf 2.53 or newer | 03:06 |
| imbrandon | make[1] : *** [cvs] Error 1 | 03:06 |
| imbrandon | make: *** [all] Error 2 | 03:06 |
| imbrandon | gah | 03:06 |
| imbrandon | dident mean to paste in here, but thats the error | 03:06 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: the patch isn't appylied...... | 03:06 |
| imbrandon | and YES i have autoconf installed | 03:06 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: it shouldent need it | 03:06 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: it has the new admin/ | 03:07 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: cvs.sh refers to autoconf 2.6 ? | 03:07 |
| imbrandon | yes | 03:07 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: ah......... | 03:07 |
| Tonio_ | very strange.......; | 03:07 |
| Tonio_ | okay I'll have a look | 03:07 |
| imbrandon | yup | 03:07 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: any specific problems with patches we already have ? just earn time packaging | 03:08 |
| imbrandon | there were 2 in debian/patches/common that dident apply but the rest are ok | 03:09 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: great, thanks | 03:09 |
| imbrandon | ( using the debain dir from kubuntu.org from 1.6 beta 1 ) | 03:09 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: okay thanks for the info | 03:10 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: used pbuilder ? | 03:17 |
| imbrandon | yes | 03:18 |
| Tonio_ | cause if you built it locally, you probably should have done a "export autoconf=autoconf" | 03:18 |
| Tonio_ | ah...... | 03:18 |
| Tonio_ | sometimes I get issues if I don't do that before a debuild | 03:18 |
| Tonio_ | but if it's pbuilder it should be okay | 03:19 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: okay I'm building, will let you know | 03:19 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: the first point is that ALL patches are applyed here.......; | 03:26 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: did you touch the source somehow ? | 03:26 |
| imbrandon | nope | 03:26 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: weird....... | 03:26 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: I don't have any issue with any patch | 03:26 |
| imbrandon | ok then i was thinking of something else | 03:27 |
| imbrandon | i have built alot of packages the last days | 03:27 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/13 | 03:27 |
| imbrandon | point is did the configure script get generated ? | 03:27 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: the build is slow :) will tell you in a minute | 03:27 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: one thing is sure : fakeroot debian/rules buildprep works...... | 03:28 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: so the build should work too | 03:28 |
| Tonio_ | http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/14 | 03:28 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: works......... | 03:28 |
| Tonio_ | sorry ;) | 03:28 |
| imbrandon | sorry ? heh | 03:29 |
| Tonio_ | sorry to tell you that I can't reproduce your issue ;) | 03:29 |
| Tonio_ | I would have prefer to reproduce and correct that with you, that's the point | 03:30 |
| imbrandon | no worries, i'm starting with a freash build now ..... | 03:30 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: maybe recreate your pbuilder....... I don't know | 03:30 |
| imbrandon | its was BEFORE i even got into pbuilder | 03:31 |
| imbrandon | nvm | 03:31 |
| Tonio_ | ah...... | 03:31 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: well if it works here, better not waste your time, I'll send the packages to Riddell | 03:31 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: for all 3 arches on all dapper and edgy ? | 03:31 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 03:31 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: hehe, no, point :) | 03:31 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: isn't there a build system for this ? | 03:32 |
| imbrandon | hehe if it builds for you fine i'll make the rest | 03:32 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: you mean all kubuntu packages are done manually ????????? | 03:32 |
| imbrandon | the ones for kubuntu.org are | 03:32 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: ah....... configure not found :) | 03:32 |
| Tonio_ | hehe | 03:32 |
| imbrandon | yea ...... | 03:33 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: okay I see, what we have to do is a buildprep | 03:33 |
| Tonio_ | did you do that ? | 03:33 |
| imbrandon | ok now NOT in pbuilder run | 03:33 |
| imbrandon | make -f Makefile.cvs | 03:33 |
| imbrandon | thats what makes the configure script | 03:33 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: nope I'm running buildprep instead | 03:33 |
| Tonio_ | better since it applies patches before generating files | 03:33 |
| Riddell | I'm sure I've already said this :) | 03:34 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yes, and you're right :) it works very nicelly :) | 03:34 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: you give the lesson, I only repeat :) | 03:34 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: try ""fakeroot debian/rules buildprep" | 03:34 |
| imbrandon | yea i applied the pacthes and tried it that way too | 03:34 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: pst, "make -f" | 03:35 |
| imbrandon | i did that yesterday ..... | 03:35 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: you mean ? | 03:35 |
| imbrandon | make -f debian/rules buildprep ....... | 03:35 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 03:35 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hum what is the difference ? works nicelly the way O do too :) | 03:35 |
| Riddell | with fakeroot :) | 03:35 |
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| imbrandon | err yea dots at the wrong end | 03:36 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: needs debian/rules to be executable and the #! line to be there | 03:36 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: well it looks like it is already there since it works :) | 03:36 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: but okay, your solution is more generic | 03:36 |
| bddebian | Heya | 03:37 |
| Tonio_ | yop bddebian | 03:37 |
| bddebian | Hi Tonio_ | 03:37 |
| Tonio_ | I'm getting mad with vbuilletin upgrade......... templates are a pain to get sync | 03:37 |
| Tonio_ | and pureftpd definitly sucks....... | 03:38 |
| imbrandon | ok either way buildprep is not likeing my autoconf either | 03:38 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: hum, try this : "export autoconf=autoconf && fakeroot make -f debian/rules buildprep" | 03:39 |
| Tonio_ | maybe that'll work | 03:39 |
| imbrandon | no change | 03:39 |
| Tonio_ | I sometimes get issues with $autoconf undefined...... | 03:39 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: grmpf, that sucks....... | 03:39 |
| Tonio_ | very strange | 03:39 |
| abattoir | Riddell: hi, just FYI, Kamion has uploaded oem-config-1.4, i'll test tomorrow's build. | 03:40 |
| Riddell | abattoir: saw that, great stuff | 03:40 |
| Jucato | wow abattoir's alive... | 03:41 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: once build is over do you want the files ? I assume yes.... | 03:41 |
| === abattoir wonders what was so great about it :P, anyway, thanks a lot :) | ||
| abattoir | Jucato: passively | 03:41 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_ / Riddell : http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/15 | 03:42 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: HEY, DON'T USE MY WEBSERVER !!!!!!!!! ^_^ | 03:42 |
| imbrandon | lol | 03:42 |
| Jucato | heh | 03:42 |
| Tonio_ | hehe :) | 03:43 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: hum, I must say I don't understand...... | 03:43 |
| imbrandon | look at the bottom , the last 2 commands | 03:43 |
| imbrandon | and i JUST untared it again to make sure all was clean | 03:44 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: can you paste $autoconf --version | 03:45 |
| Tonio_ | ? | 03:45 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: looks like a local issue, but that's, I must say, very bizarre :) | 03:45 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: your eaccellerator link is broken, nice page :] | 03:45 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: i only have one autoconf installed | 03:45 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: ah ? thanks for the info :) | 03:45 |
| imbrandon | and that is at the bottom of that paste | 03:46 |
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| danimo | heya! | 03:46 |
| danimo | kwwii_: nice work! | 03:46 |
| imbrandon | ello danimo | 03:46 |
| danimo | hi imbrandon | 03:46 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/koffice_1.5.92.orig.tar.gz being uploaded (8 mins to go) | 03:47 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: kk | 03:48 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: the link is correct now | 03:48 |
| fdoving | :) | 03:48 |
| imbrandon | rm -rf * | 03:48 |
| imbrandon | err | 03:48 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: wanna test my package ? configure runs, so it should be okay | 03:48 |
| imbrandon | i'll grab the new tarbal from Riddell and try it first | 03:49 |
| imbrandon | then we'll go that way | 03:49 |
| jdong | Hobbsee: you rang? | 03:49 |
| Hobbsee | jdong: yeah, status of kopete in dapper backports, if the bug got fixed | 03:50 |
| jdong | Hobbsee: will check up on that | 03:50 |
| danimo | edgy looks very nice now | 03:50 |
| Hobbsee | cool :) | 03:50 |
| jdong | Jucato: flash should be fixed, the build went through at least | 03:51 |
| danimo | I'd like to get a working usb key hotplug back :) | 03:51 |
| danimo | kde reacts on the hal event | 03:51 |
| danimo | but doesn't actually mount anything, and errors out | 03:51 |
| Jucato | jdong: ok I'll try it out | 03:52 |
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| imbrandon | Riddell: you headed to dublin today ? | 03:56 |
| Jucato | jdong: of course it hasn't hit dapper-backports yet, has it? | 03:57 |
| jdong | Jucato: it should have? :) | 03:57 |
| Jucato | hm.. I'll try connecting directly to archive.ubuntu.com... | 03:57 |
| Jucato | coz it's not working here... | 03:57 |
| jdong | it might still be a bit before it shows up on archive | 03:58 |
| jdong | I just noticed that it passed through buildd | 03:58 |
| Jucato | jdong: ah... that was what I was asking heheh... what's the package name so I could check? | 03:58 |
| jdong | flashplugin-nonfree | 03:58 |
| Jucato | jdong: I mean the version? (7.0.68~ubuntu1~dapper1 is the one that's not working, right?) | 03:59 |
| jdong | corect | 03:59 |
| jdong | ubuntu2~dapper1 is working | 03:59 |
| Jucato | ah ok. I'll check it once in a while to see if it's there already :P | 04:00 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: tar uploaded all the way? i'm a grab it , hope so | 04:05 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 04:05 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: yes | 04:07 |
| imbrandon | cool | 04:08 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: shoudn't we plan a new kubuntu-meeting ? | 04:26 |
| Hobbsee | could be a plan | 04:27 |
| Hobbsee | what are we saying? | 04:27 |
| imbrandon | that the sky is yellow and the grass is purple .... ;) | 04:28 |
| Hobbsee | woo :) | 04:28 |
| Hobbsee | yellow sky would be cool | 04:28 |
| imbrandon | purple grass would be too | 04:29 |
| crimsun | please, we don't want a gnome-ish colour scheme | 04:29 |
| imbrandon | heh i might gimp someting up why koffice compiles | 04:29 |
| Tonio_ | next week would be good to get beta feedback | 04:29 |
| imbrandon | crimsun: hahaha | 04:29 |
| imbrandon | purple and yeallow are gnomish ? | 04:29 |
| imbrandon | yellow* | 04:29 |
| imbrandon | next thurs at 2100 UTC ? any objections ? | 04:30 |
| crimsun | no, it was a side-long shot at the slightly garish colours | 04:30 |
| imbrandon | Riddell Tonio_ Hobbsee ^^^ | 04:30 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: wont like it | 04:30 |
| === Jucato reads... | ||
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: perfect for me | 04:31 |
| imbrandon | crimsun: ahhh hehe | 04:31 |
| Hobbsee | er, can you revisit this tomorrow? i'll have gotten shifts for work by then, so will know what's going on | 04:31 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: although tuesday would be better in my view | 04:31 |
| Jucato | what won't I like? yellow? purple? :P | 04:31 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee: ok we'll "tentively" plan it for then pending your schedules from work | 04:31 |
| imbrandon | sound good ? | 04:32 |
| Hobbsee | i'm thinking of saying "push it later" | 04:32 |
| Hobbsee | also, jjesse will probably want to come too | 04:32 |
| Hobbsee | (seeing as i'm not at uni next week, i dont have such a tight schedule) | 04:32 |
| imbrandon | well later would put Riddell at the wee hours of the morning | 04:33 |
| === Hobbsee shrugs | ||
| Hobbsee | we'll find something | 04:34 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 04:34 |
| imbrandon | true | 04:34 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: I could probably get up that early again, no biggie (I'm not that important :P ) | 04:34 |
| Hobbsee | sure you are | 04:35 |
| Jucato | well, at least not YET :P | 04:35 |
| Jucato | *evil laugh* | 04:35 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: btw that tar worked perfect for me this time, its building now on 2 machines to test ( i386 and amd64 edgy on both ) if it builds fine i'll start all the other builds | 04:36 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: you said something about it might not build on ppc ? | 04:36 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: hey now, i'm the one taking over the world :P | 04:37 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: due to ruby? | 04:37 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee: that only affects 64bit ppc afaik | 04:37 |
| imbrandon | not sure | 04:37 |
| Jucato | ok... I'm satisfied with one continent, just not Australia :P | 04:37 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 04:37 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 04:37 |
| === imbrandon claims north america | ||
| Jucato | heh | 04:38 |
| imbrandon | bwhahah | 04:38 |
| Jucato | I bet you'd claim wherever the largest mt.dew factory is located :P | 04:38 |
| imbrandon | gah well i thought i was perfect | 04:38 |
| imbrandon | jesus | 04:38 |
| imbrandon | man i'm going mad over this | 04:39 |
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| Mez | Riddell: ping | 04:43 |
| imbrandon | heya Mez | 04:43 |
| Mez | heya | 04:44 |
| Mez | imbrandon, get main upload yet ? | 04:44 |
| Hobbsee | hi Mez | 04:44 |
| imbrandon | Mez: yupers | 04:44 |
| === Mez waves at sarah | ||
| Hobbsee | he did, he's very important now | 04:44 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee: not anymore than before ;( i just can break alot more systems | 04:45 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 04:45 |
| Hobbsee | sure you ar | 04:45 |
| Hobbsee | e | 04:45 |
| crimsun | stop breaking stuff in main! | 04:45 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 04:45 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: first time I heard you called by your first name :P | 04:45 |
| Mez | imbrandon: do you reckon it might be possible for you to put thourgh a UVF request for katapult | 04:46 |
| imbrandon | Jucato: she is every once ina while ;) | 04:46 |
| Jucato | heh :) | 04:46 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: Mez likes doing that. | 04:46 |
| imbrandon | Mez: i can try, got a changelog for me | 04:46 |
| Jucato | it's nice to hear it once in a while :P | 04:46 |
| crimsun | beta freeze was yesterday... | 04:46 |
| imbrandon | yea it has to be important for beta | 04:46 |
| Mez | imbrandon: it's pretty much stuff thats in as patches in the ubuntu | 04:46 |
| imbrandon | ahh hrm, well they are only wanting uploads atm to fix broken stuff for the beta atm | 04:47 |
| imbrandon | so if it can wait , it would probably be better to | 04:47 |
| imbrandon | but if not we can try | 04:48 |
| Mez | imbrandon, you on edgy now ? | 04:48 |
| imbrandon | yup | 04:48 |
| Mez | can you do me a favour- y ou running katapult ? | 04:49 |
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| imbrandon | sure and yes | 04:49 |
| === Jucato feels the katapult-amarok bug coming up... | ||
| Mez | Jucato, no | 04:51 |
| Mez | imbrandon, type a few letters for a program | 04:51 |
| Jucato | heh... :) | 04:51 |
| Mez | then hit backspace | 04:51 |
| Mez | how many chars does it delete ? | 04:51 |
| imbrandon | haha 2 | 04:51 |
| imbrandon | 2 at a time | 04:51 |
| Mez | f00k | 04:51 |
| Hobbsee | 2 | 04:51 |
| === imbrandon never noticed that before | ||
| Hobbsee | oh, so *that's* why my backspace never works the way i thought | 04:51 |
| imbrandon | heh | 04:51 |
| Mez | It appeared for some reason ... | 04:51 |
| Mez | imbrandon, can you download the latest bzr version and check if that does the same ? | 04:51 |
| imbrandon | Mez: yea but it will be a while before i have the cpu cycles to compile it, koffice is curning away atm | 04:52 |
| Mez | imbrandon - how about I poke you a deb over ? | 04:52 |
| imbrandon | Mez: that would be perfect | 04:53 |
| imbrandon | i'm on my i386 box atm | 04:53 |
| Mez | ;) | 04:53 |
| Riddell | hi Mez | 04:53 |
| Jucato | nice... 2 characters at a time... :P | 04:53 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: no ruby on ppc edgy so it won't build there | 04:53 |
| Mez | Riddell: have you any idea where that bug came from ? the first time I saw it was on your lappy | 04:54 |
| imbrandon | ok i'll just do the amd64 and i386 on dapper/edgy then, well do the ppc ones later | 04:54 |
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| Riddell | imbrandon: make sure all the files are installed before you start on dapper | 04:54 |
| imbrandon | k | 04:54 |
| Riddell | Mez: what bug? | 04:55 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: start katapult , type kate and then backspace | 04:55 |
| Mez | Riddell: double bakspace in katapult | 04:55 |
| imbrandon | deletes 2 chars at a time | 04:55 |
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| Riddell | Mez: I've no idea where it came from no | 04:56 |
| Mez | Riddell: I blame you for it - lol :D | 04:57 |
| Mez | imbrandon, get that ? | 04:58 |
| imbrandon | grabbing it now | 04:58 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: my build failed........ no left space on device, after one hour :'( | 05:00 |
| imbrandon | Mez: still fails ( and doesnt have the new colors heheh ) | 05:01 |
| imbrandon | err doublebackspaces | 05:01 |
| gnomefreak | Tonio_: you mean not all devels have 600 gig harddrives :) | 05:02 |
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| Mez | imbrandon: noone sent me the patch for the new colours ;) | 05:02 |
| Tonio_ | gnomefreak: not on my laptop unfortunately ;) | 05:02 |
| imbrandon | Mez: ahhh | 05:02 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: i have a build going now, we'll see how it gos | 05:03 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: great | 05:03 |
| imbrandon | i have 2 gig ram 2 gig swap and a 160+ gig hdd, i better not run outa space ;) | 05:03 |
| imbrandon | ( on this box ) | 05:03 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: is there a way to tell if all the files are install AFTER the deb is built ? | 05:07 |
| Riddell | dh_install --list-missing | 05:07 |
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| imbrandon | k | 05:07 |
| Riddell | you're not using pbuilder are you? | 05:07 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: i am for this build, should i not be ? | 05:07 |
| Riddell | you won't be able to do anything if it goes wrong | 05:08 |
| Riddell | changes are there's some new file that has been added, or one removed | 05:08 |
| imbrandon | ahh shiznit, right , ok /me stops it | 05:08 |
| Riddell | built it in a chroot first on 1 platform, fix any problems then do the final thing in a pbuilder if you want to be sure | 05:08 |
| imbrandon | right ... i wasent thinking | 05:09 |
| imbrandon | no biggie it wasent too far | 05:09 |
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| imbrandon | woot finaly to the gcc compiling part heh, now we're getting somewhere | 05:28 |
| === Riddell hugs imbrandon | ||
| imbrandon | i figured out the configure problem too i think, not sure , but i dident have automake1.9 installed | 05:29 |
| imbrandon | anyhow its /actualy/ building now, e.g gcc/g++ is churning .... so now to grab a bit to eat and wait | 05:30 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 05:30 |
| === imbrandon hugs Riddell back | ||
| === Jucato sees a lot of hugging... :) | ||
| Mez | Riddell: ping | 05:33 |
| Riddell | pong | 05:33 |
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| Riddell | although in British English it's called Table Tennis | 05:33 |
| abattoir | heh :P | 05:34 |
| Mez | Riddell: ok, with bug 60136, I'm working on a fix - but checking the version number is a huge PITA | 05:34 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 60136 in katapult "Katapult doesn't work with Amarok >= 1.4.2" [Critical,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/60136 | 05:34 |
| Jucato | lol | 05:34 |
| Mez | Riddell: should I just assume they have the latest version of katapult ? | 05:34 |
| Mez | s/katapult/amarok/ | 05:34 |
| Riddell | Mez: sure, we just can't backport it then | 05:34 |
| Mez | Riddell: hmm... true | 05:35 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: sure we can becosue if they have -backports enabled then they ahve the new amarok tooo | 05:36 |
| Mez | but check a string >=1.4.2 (which could include SVN versions) is a large PITA | 05:36 |
| Mez | Riddell: plus we're going to get people moaning about it on other systems than ubuntu | 05:36 |
| Mez | Riddell: know any easy way to check the version number (which we can easily get as a qstring) is better | 05:36 |
| Riddell | imbrandon wins, just ignore people using old amarok | 05:36 |
| Mez | actually... wouldnt string comparison work ? | 05:37 |
| Riddell | amarok --version | 05:37 |
| imbrandon | is there a dcop way to get the version ? | 05:37 |
| Mez | dcop amarok player version | 05:38 |
| Mez | will return the version | 05:39 |
| Mez | but comparison check against it .... | 05:39 |
| Mez | imbrandon, can you do this please | 05:39 |
| Mez | dcop amarok collection query "select count(*) from admin where noption | 05:39 |
| Mez | <maxx_k> = 'Database Devices Version'" | 05:39 |
| imbrandon | brandon@horatio:~$ dcop amarok collection query "select count(*) from admin where noption <maxx_k> = 'Database Devices Version'" | 05:40 |
| imbrandon | returns nothing | 05:40 |
| Mez | imbrandon, whoops | 05:40 |
| Mez | dcop amarok collection query "select count(*) from admin where noption = 'Database Devices Version'" | 05:40 |
| imbrandon | returns 1 | 05:41 |
| Mez | sweet | 05:41 |
| Mez | that means you're using a dynamic collection | 05:41 |
| imbrandon | hehe ok | 05:42 |
| imbrandon | forgive me for being ignorant , i ahvent looked at a single line of katapult code but when you send the url cant you "dcop amarok player version" and do a if/else for amarok >=1.4.2 and still keep the old way for the other ? | 05:44 |
| imbrandon | Mez: ^^ | 05:44 |
| imbrandon | i mean worst case convert the string to a int or someting easy to compare | 05:45 |
| imbrandon | etc | 05:45 |
| Mez | 1.4.2 = ! int | 05:45 |
| Mez | imbrandon : I'm planning on keeping the old way | 05:45 |
| imbrandon | okies ;) | 05:45 |
| Mez | dcop amarok collection query "select count(*) from admin where noption = 'Database Devices Version'" | 05:45 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: how is the build going this time ? | 05:45 |
| Mez | returns 1 for >=1.4.2 0 for <1.4.2 | 05:46 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: looks like its gonna work this time | 05:46 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: great | 05:46 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: still building obviously ;) | 05:46 |
| Tonio_ | same for me...... | 05:46 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: shouldn't we build from the same source package ? | 05:46 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: i'm building from Riddell's and plan to do all the required ones for kubuntu.org once i make sure all the files are installed | 05:47 |
| imbrandon | soo yea its the same sources | 05:47 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: no need that I finish the build then ? | 05:47 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: nope , not unless you just want to | 05:47 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: no ;) | 05:47 |
| Jucato | g'night abattoir, Hawkwind, imbrandon, Riddell, Tonio_ | 05:48 |
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| imbrandon | Tonio_: ;) | 05:48 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: hehe | 05:48 |
| imbrandon | nixternal: i just know you want to go though my music collection and add all the album art ;) ( just teasin ) | 05:50 |
| nixternal | i already did mine | 05:51 |
| nixternal | it wasn't fun | 05:51 |
| nixternal | i got to the point on some of them i just took the default ;) | 05:51 |
| imbrandon | heh | 05:51 |
| nixternal | was there a recent xorg update? | 05:52 |
| nixternal | when i rebooted, x didn't start up...no errors either, but i could alt+f1, get to cli, and then startx with no problem | 05:52 |
| nixternal | and now it looks like i am running 1600x1200, where as before 1600x1200 actually looked like 1280x1024 | 05:52 |
| imbrandon | sounds like that kernel issue hobbsee had, but you two are the only ones to have noticed it | 05:52 |
| nixternal | actually..the kernel upgrade hasn't been done yet | 05:53 |
| nixternal | they were held back | 05:53 |
| === nixternal has to increase text size here, can barely see it | ||
| imbrandon | heh i run 1600x1200 all the time ;) | 05:54 |
| imbrandon | and still not big enough, i need a big screen monitor | 05:54 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 05:54 |
| nixternal | i do too, or at least i thought i did | 05:54 |
| nixternal | this is a 21" sony | 05:54 |
| nixternal | i could still use more realestate | 05:55 |
| imbrandon | mine is a 20inch compaq something | 05:55 |
| nixternal | its a dually setup, the 2nd is a samsung syncmaster 955df | 05:55 |
| nixternal | which i would go right ahead and say was the best crt ever made | 05:55 |
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| Mez | imbrandon/Riddell: ping | 06:37 |
| Riddell | hi | 06:37 |
| Mez | Riddell; once I've finished this patch for the katapult/amarok bug - will you push it to katapult ? | 06:37 |
| Mez | s/to katapult/to main/ | 06:38 |
| Mez | It's a critical bugfix for edgy | 06:38 |
| Mez | bug 601363 | 06:40 |
| Mez | bug 60136 | 06:40 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 60136 in katapult "Katapult doesn't work with Amarok >= 1.4.2" [Critical,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/60136 | 06:40 |
| Riddell | for some definition of critical :) | 06:40 |
| Mez | Riddell .... huh ? | 06:41 |
| imbrandon | Mez: pong | 06:41 |
| imbrandon | as long as Riddell says its cool yea | 06:42 |
| imbrandon | gonna grab some food , bbiab | 06:42 |
| imbrandon | seaLne: woohoo , tell all the kde peeps hi ;) | 06:42 |
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| imbrandon | wow koffice does take a while, 2.5 hours later still chugging along | 07:52 |
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| Riddell | imbrandon: feel me pain :) | 08:06 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: hehehe | 08:10 |
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| imbrandon | wow Riddell i was just reading about icecream | 08:23 |
| imbrandon | can that be used with packageing too ? | 08:23 |
| imbrandon | looks cool becouse of the cross compile stuff, i can make my ppc laptop use the x86 machines | 08:24 |
| imbrandon | even though the ppc lappy is slow(er) | 08:24 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: it's hard to use, since setting make -j 5 in debian/rules will kill the buildds | 08:25 |
| imbrandon | ahh right | 08:25 |
| imbrandon | same problem with distcc | 08:25 |
| imbrandon | i seen some hacks to make hooks in pbuilder to dynamicly add it , but would probably run into the same problems | 08:26 |
| imbrandon | woot looks like koffice is finishing up | 08:30 |
| imbrandon | its running the install scripts ;) | 08:31 |
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| kwwii | erm, in which package are the window buttons for kubuntu on dapper? | 08:39 |
| === kwwii tries to update the dapper laptop to at least look like edgy | ||
| Riddell | kwwii: same one, kwin-style-crystal | 08:39 |
| Riddell | it'll be a patch in debian/patches | 08:39 |
| kwwii | Riddell: so what do I have to do to patch it? | 08:41 |
| kwwii | I bet I have done this three times already and still do not remember | 08:42 |
| Riddell | kwwii: just get the edgy sources and debuil them | 08:42 |
| Riddell | debuild | 08:42 |
| Riddell | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kwin-style-crystal/1.0.1-0ubuntu6 | 08:43 |
| kwwii | Riddell: killer, thanks | 08:44 |
| Riddell | dpkg-source -x *dsc to unpack those | 08:45 |
| kwwii | Riddell: actually, it seems that apt-get source does that for you already | 08:45 |
| kwwii | or? | 08:45 |
| Riddell | kwwii: if you're on dapper it'll get you the dapper sources | 08:45 |
| Riddell | but yes, it'll run dpkg-source -x for you | 08:46 |
| kwwii | Riddell: well, I just wanted to be able to put the new pics in the right dir and build it on dapper | 08:46 |
| kwwii | and debuild fails at that patch | 08:47 |
| kwwii | Trying patch debian/patches/kubuntu_01_branch.diff at level 0...1...2...failure. | 08:47 |
| kwwii | make: *** [debian/stamp-patched] Error 1 | 08:47 |
| Riddell | kwwii: try getting the edgy sources and compiling normally with your new images | 08:48 |
| Riddell | edgy should take the images and do the right thing, dapper needed manual compiling of the images | 08:48 |
| danimo | kwwii: nice artwork. me likey! | 08:48 |
| kwwii | danimo: cool, good to hear it! | 08:49 |
| Riddell | ok, I'm off to ireland, see you there | 08:50 |
| kwwii | see you tomorrow | 08:50 |
| kwwii | have a safe trip | 08:50 |
| danimo | bye Riddell | 08:50 |
| danimo | kwwii: when is your flight? | 08:51 |
| === danimo envys you guys | ||
| kwwii | tomorrow from frankfurt at 16:20 | 08:51 |
| kwwii | danimo: you won't be at akademy this year? | 08:51 |
| danimo | kwwii: no, I have exams pending next week | 08:51 |
| kwwii | oh, tooo bad | 08:51 |
| danimo | kwwii: the last one on friday | 08:52 |
| danimo | kwwii: so all of akademy is spoiled | 08:52 |
| kwwii | guess those are more important | 08:52 |
| danimo | kwwii: I will be at the anniversary party in stuttgart though | 08:52 |
| kwwii | cool | 08:52 |
| danimo | kwwii: yeah, me too, otherwise I wouldn't be sitting here ;) | 08:52 |
| danimo | kwwii: waiting for friends to call that I was _supposed_ to meet tonight | 08:53 |
| kwwii | ;-) | 08:53 |
| imbrandon | kwwii: you just want this for your self ? | 08:58 |
| imbrandon | ( the artwork ) | 08:59 |
| kwwii | imbrandon: I built it already | 08:59 |
| kwwii | imbrandon: trying to get my laptop to look like edgy even though it is dapper | 08:59 |
| imbrandon | ahh ok, i was gonna say i could make a dapper deb for ya ;) | 08:59 |
| kwwii | so that I can show it to mark :-) | 08:59 |
| imbrandon | ahh ;) | 08:59 |
| imbrandon | Riddell should have a edgy lappy there | 09:00 |
| kwwii | yeah, but his laptop looks ugly | 09:00 |
| kwwii | :p | 09:00 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 09:00 |
| imbrandon | make sure and use the pannel image ;) | 09:00 |
| imbrandon | and update your dapper to kde 3.5.4 ;) | 09:00 |
| kwwii | yeah, I think mark will like that a lot | 09:00 |
| kwwii | kde 3.5.4 is running on it | 09:01 |
| === imbrandon made his ppc lappy look like winxp ;) | ||
| imbrandon | i showed you those screenshots dident i ? | 09:01 |
| kwwii | yeah | 09:02 |
| kwwii | I make my osx look like linux a lot | 09:02 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 09:02 |
| kwwii | :-) | 09:02 |
| imbrandon | yea i did that too | 09:02 |
| imbrandon | at one time | 09:02 |
| imbrandon | but i dident like it quite as much | 09:02 |
| imbrandon | seemed to "right" hehe | 09:03 |
| kwwii | hehe | 09:03 |
| imbrandon | i had / have the xp theme down to where to honestly cant tell your on kde | 09:03 |
| imbrandon | except for the app names | 09:03 |
| kwwii | hehe, my problem is that I do not know XP at all | 09:04 |
| imbrandon | i mean pixle for pixle , windeco, menus , startbar etc | 09:04 |
| kwwii | I actually like the idea of a bigger start menu button | 09:05 |
| imbrandon | yea | 09:06 |
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| two-face | anyone awake in here? | 09:27 |
| fdoving | partly. | 09:27 |
| === DaSkreech smacks his lips and rubs his eyes | ||
| DaSkreech | Now there is | 09:28 |
| two-face | kubuntu knot3 fails at boot time for me, right after the initrd gets unpacked | 09:28 |
| DaSkreech | Installed or Live CD? | 09:30 |
| two-face | liveCD | 09:31 |
| imbrandon | try with acpi=off as a kern option | 09:32 |
| imbrandon | afk heading to the store | 09:32 |
| two-face | acpi would cause such a mess? | 09:33 |
| two-face | hmm | 09:33 |
| imbrandon | two-face: yup , it does on one of my hp's | 09:34 |
| === imbrandon is really afk now | ||
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| two-face | anyone booted knot3 with nforce4 ? | 09:45 |
| jdong | nvidia mobos... *shudder* | 09:47 |
| imbrandon | two-face: yea i have no problems with mine | 09:48 |
| imbrandon | jdong: what ? | 09:48 |
| jdong | imbrandon: I've had bad *nix luck with nforce chipsets | 09:48 |
| jdong | imbrandon: my nforce3 shuttle boots linux fine, but pukes on all BSD variants | 09:49 |
| imbrandon | jdong: i'm sorry, i've had great lick with them | 09:49 |
| two-face | imbrandon: sata_nv driver | 09:49 |
| jdong | imbrandon: maybe it's shuttle's fault then... or the BIOS | 09:49 |
| jdong | ACPI behaves erratically with non-modern linux kernels, too | 09:49 |
| two-face | it is a shuttle | 09:50 |
| imbrandon | and i can assume you debuged them and submitted reports too ? | 09:50 |
| jdong | imbrandon: who, me? | 09:50 |
| imbrandon | jdong: yes, you would be the one complaining ;) | 09:50 |
| jdong | I found the exact kernel panic tracebacks on freebsd mailing lists, and it's apparently fixed in 7-current | 09:51 |
| imbrandon | ahh great , then whats the problem ? | 09:51 |
| jdong | imbrandon: 7-current is, umm, 7-current, not 6-stable :) | 09:51 |
| imbrandon | jdong: and ? just means it hasent been widely tested yet, you cant expect things to be out in 30 minutes ;) | 09:52 |
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| jdong | imbrandon: bottom line, I am not 100% inclined to worship nvidia mobos as linux friendly, unlike their GPU's | 09:52 |
| jdong | imbrandon: and from what I gather on lkml, nvidia wasn't too friendly with forcedeth and sata_nv's development | 09:52 |
| imbrandon | ok , and bottom line was that earlier comment was in no way constructive | 09:52 |
| gnuton | Hi | 09:52 |
| jdong | in fact, I don't think sata_nv will get NCQ support for that reason | 09:52 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 09:52 |
| imbrandon | hello gnuton | 09:53 |
| jdong | oh great, imbrandon is forcing all of my comments to be constructive | 09:53 |
| gnuton | hellp imbrandon, jdong! | 09:53 |
| imbrandon | jdong: no , but it helpes when someone is asking for help | 09:53 |
| gnuton | hello, soory :) | 09:53 |
| imbrandon | i'm not forcing anything | 09:53 |
| jdong | <mindcontrol> I LOVE THE NEW PANEL BACKGROUNDS </mindcontrol> | 09:53 |
| jdong | <mindcontrol> THEY LOOK EXTREMELY SEXY </mindcontrol> | 09:53 |
| Tm_T | ok | 09:54 |
| === gnuton reboot edgy | ||
| jdong | gnuton: what's up | 09:54 |
| two-face | what componant do I need to file a bug against? | 09:54 |
| imbrandon | two-face: depends on the problem | 09:54 |
| Tonio_ | can someone confirm that bug : kopete crashes when clicking on a http link ? | 09:54 |
| imbrandon | whats going on ? | 09:54 |
| two-face | imbrandon: the one i described | 09:55 |
| imbrandon | and i asked did you try the acpi thing ? | 09:55 |
| two-face | imbrandon: didn't work | 09:55 |
| two-face | imbrandon: well, at least I could read the error this time | 09:55 |
| jdong | two-face: most likely it's gonna be against linux-source-2.6.17 | 09:55 |
| imbrandon | whats the error ? | 09:55 |
| two-face | imbrandon: IRQ 10 disabled, but I coud see "[sata_nv] " | 09:56 |
| two-face | jdong: ok | 09:56 |
| imbrandon | ok , but again what was the error | 09:56 |
| two-face | jdong: through launchpad? | 09:56 |
| jdong | two-face: you're gonna have to get a more descriptive error mesage first | 09:56 |
| two-face | imbrandon: there was no real error message, only 4 lines of kernel output which I did not write down | 09:57 |
| jdong | two-face: you need to boot your kernel verbosely then | 09:57 |
| two-face | jdong: I'll try to reproduce | 09:57 |
| two-face | jdong: what parameter for this? | 09:57 |
| imbrandon | two-face: ok write them down and file a bug against the kernel-source , thats the best you can hope for without more info | 09:58 |
| jdong | verbose maybe? | 09:58 |
| === jdong guesses | ||
| imbrandon | no | 09:58 |
| jdong | noquiet? ;) | 09:58 |
| imbrandon | you take the quite off the kernel parms | 09:58 |
| jdong | can you do that with gfxboot? | 09:58 |
| jdong | I didn't recall it exposing the cmdline | 09:58 |
| imbrandon | sure | 09:58 |
| two-face | imbrandon:ok | 09:58 |
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| imbrandon | you hit f6 at the menu just like the onscreen options say | 09:59 |
| fdoving | hmm.. guidance mountconfig kcm module doesn't work. | 09:59 |
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| jdong | seems to boot fine here | 09:59 |
| fdoving | the standalone 'mountconfig' program works though. | 09:59 |
| jdong | but I have IDE hard drives | 09:59 |
| two-face | ok i'll try that | 10:01 |
| two-face | BBL | 10:01 |
| Tonio_ | can someone please confirm bug 61930 | 10:02 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 61930 in kopete "Freeze when clicking a URL." [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61930 | 10:02 |
| === jdong patiently waits for Ubugtu link | ||
| jdong | grr, that requires me to go into kde and kopete | 10:03 |
| jdong | brb | 10:03 |
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| jdong | now, all I need is a url... via kopete | 10:04 |
| jdong | anyone want to gmail-prod me or something? | 10:04 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: anthony.mercatante@jabber.fr | 10:04 |
| === jdong not on jabber... gmail or aim :( | ||
| imbrandon | gmail == jabber silly | 10:05 |
| Tonio_ | gmail and jabber are compatible aren't they ? | 10:05 |
| jdong | Tonio_: same protocol , idfferent network , I thought | 10:05 |
| imbrandon | nope | 10:05 |
| jdong | nvm, got one | 10:05 |
| jdong | all I have to do is talk to myself :) | 10:05 |
| Tonio_ | jdong I think the networks are linked now | 10:05 |
| Tonio_ | a few month ago :) | 10:05 |
| jdong | Tonio_: works | 10:06 |
| jdong | opened up in my browser just fine | 10:06 |
| imbrandon | works fine here too | 10:06 |
| Tonio_ | okay let's talk to me somehow :) | 10:06 |
| jdong | k | 10:06 |
| Tonio_ | hum....... | 10:06 |
| Tonio_ | strange........ | 10:06 |
| Tonio_ | very strange | 10:06 |
| Tonio_ | edgy up to date ? | 10:06 |
| imbrandon | yes | 10:06 |
| imbrandon | bbiab | 10:06 |
| Tonio_ | okay so I assume my profile has an issue | 10:06 |
| Tonio_ | it is not kopete config since I already removed it | 10:07 |
| jdong | using up to date edgy | 10:07 |
| jdong | and you are offline apparently | 10:07 |
| Tonio_ | okay so that's local issue........ I should have wait before reporting | 10:07 |
| Tonio_ | jdong my kopete just crashed, hehe | 10:07 |
| jdong | LOL | 10:08 |
| Tonio_ | okay now I see you | 10:08 |
| Tonio_ | I didn't restart since this morning's kdebase update.......; maybe that can explain | 10:08 |
| Tonio_ | let's restart kde | 10:08 |
| === jdong is thoroughly amused by edgy's use of GCC SSP :) | ||
| jdong | but with imbrandon around, | 10:09 |
| jdong | I'll keep that amusement to myself | 10:09 |
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| jdong | so how'd it go, Tonio_? | 10:12 |
| Tonio_ | it works......... I just had to reload kde....... | 10:12 |
| Tonio_ | weird | 10:12 |
| jdong | weird | 10:13 |
| imbrandon | kdebase update *cough* | 10:13 |
| === jdong hands imbrandon some opiate cough suppressants | ||
| === kwwii boots into osx, brb | ||
| === jdong wishes he had a macbook to boot OSX with | ||
| imbrandon | sell ya my ibook | 10:19 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 10:19 |
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| jdong | pfft :) | 10:21 |
| jdong | btw, how do I get kopete to be a bit more aggressive in maintaining a connection? | 10:21 |
| jdong | after about 20 hours it tends to lose its connectivity , and doesn't attempt to reconnect on its own | 10:21 |
| jdong | gaim also loses the connection at the same intervals, but it reconnects on its own | 10:22 |
| imbrandon | dunno i dont use it | 10:22 |
| jdong | :-/ | 10:22 |
| imbrandon | i'm sure its a setting in the config | 10:22 |
| imbrandon | poke arround ;) | 10:23 |
| jdong | hehehe, that's almost as much fun as searching for weird phrases in the apt database | 10:23 |
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| imbrandon | grrrrrrrrrr | 10:47 |
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| kwwii | man changing dapper to look like edgy is a lot of work | 10:56 |
| kwwii | and you really see the difference | 10:57 |
| imbrandon | heh | 10:57 |
| fdoving | is it alot of work to move the kubuntu part of the edgy usplash to the left so that the beginning of the K alligns with the start of the progressbar? | 10:58 |
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| kwwii | ahhh, where is Tonio | 11:01 |
| kwwii | imbrandon: do you have the latest updates for edgy? | 11:01 |
| imbrandon | yup | 11:01 |
| kwwii | do your inactive windows get transparent? | 11:01 |
| imbrandon | no | 11:02 |
| kwwii | whew | 11:02 |
| kwwii | cool | 11:02 |
| imbrandon | thats turned off by default iirc cuz it dont work well with all vid cards | 11:02 |
| kwwii | yeah | 11:02 |
| kwwii | and I was afraid I put it back in with my change to kwincrystalrc | 11:02 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 11:03 |
| kwwii | man, I did a lot of work recently :p | 11:05 |
| kwwii | the panelbg looks great with the window deco gradients, I think | 11:05 |
| kwwii | mark wanted to do that with gnome and everyone complained | 11:06 |
| imbrandon | heh yea i like it alot | 11:06 |
| imbrandon | adds that extra polish | 11:06 |
| imbrandon | and hell its not like it takes up cpu or soemthing | 11:06 |
| kwwii | I think that we should turn the shadowed text in the titlebar back on though | 11:08 |
| kwwii | it looks much better on my laptop | 11:08 |
| imbrandon | hrm i like it both ways | 11:08 |
| imbrandon | heh | 11:08 |
| kwwii | and on my laptop the active window deco looks totally blue | 11:08 |
| kwwii | not purple at all | 11:08 |
| imbrandon | on edgy it looks grey | 11:08 |
| imbrandon | on both my lappy and desktop | 11:09 |
| kwwii | the active window? the inactive window should look almost gray | 11:09 |
| imbrandon | ohh yea the inactive | 11:09 |
| imbrandon | yea the active on a lcd looks a little bluer but imho it looks better | 11:09 |
| imbrandon | just gives that hint of purple | 11:10 |
| imbrandon | gradient looks better on the lcd too | 11:10 |
| kwwii | actually, I like them better on my other mac :p | 11:11 |
| kwwii | thank god I did not make this theme on the laptop | 11:11 |
| kwwii | and now I know why the earlier stuff was "way too purple" for people | 11:11 |
| ryanakca | ? | 11:11 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 11:11 |
| === ryanakca wonders why amarok + last.fm streams doesn't work anymore... | ||
| imbrandon | seem to work here ryanakca infact i was just listening to mine | 11:12 |
| ryanakca | wierd... | 11:12 |
| ryanakca | I get the "This feature is only available to Last.fm subscribers"... | 11:13 |
| imbrandon | did you put your lastfm account info in ? | 11:13 |
| ryanakca | imbrandon: yep :) | 11:13 |
| imbrandon | did you upgrade and not reboot ? | 11:13 |
| === imbrandon eyes tonio on that one | ||
| ryanakca | it's a fresh install... right off the knot 3 CD | 11:14 |
| imbrandon | and you have updated correct ? | 11:14 |
| ryanakca | yes | 11:14 |
| imbrandon | and rebooted since | 11:14 |
| imbrandon | correct ? | 11:14 |
| ryanakca | I believe so | 11:14 |
| imbrandon | make sure , you get weird bugs when you update without rebooting kde | 11:14 |
| ryanakca | yes.. I did... I can rereboot though... | 11:15 |
| ryanakca | imbrandon: does killing X count? I've done that several times as well | 11:15 |
| kwwii | hell, on edgy you get wierd bugs sometimes even though you restart :p | 11:15 |
| ryanakca | brb then | 11:16 |
| imbrandon | lol | 11:16 |
| ryanakca | meh... it's what I get for living on the edgy of insanity | 11:16 |
| imbrandon | ahh i see what he was doing | 11:17 |
| imbrandon | hahaha | 11:17 |
| kwwii | is there some way to configure a printer? | 11:17 |
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| imbrandon | kwwii: in the system setting , but i dunno /how/ | 11:18 |
| imbrandon | but i know you can | 11:18 |
| kwwii | I have an HP printer and when I click on the Printers icon in systemsettings it terminates after a long pause | 11:18 |
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| imbrandon | oh wow | 11:18 |
| imbrandon | hrm | 11:18 |
| === nixternal is listening to "Berimbau" by DJ Hell on Munich Maschine [Amarok] | ||
| nixternal | that is a last.fm stream ;) | 11:18 |
| imbrandon | nixternal: yea he was trying to play a persoanl stream , i tried it and got the message | 11:19 |
| imbrandon | its only for paying lastfm members | 11:19 |
| nixternal | ahh | 11:19 |
| nixternal | oh ya..that stuff | 11:19 |
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| nixternal | dude...banff, ab is absolutely beautiful | 11:19 |
| nixternal | i want to move here | 11:19 |
| imbrandon | ryanakca: you were trying to play the "personal" one right ? | 11:20 |
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| imbrandon | ryanakca: click engage --> lastfm --> group tag --> station , that works, the personal is for paying subscribers only as it states ;) | 11:20 |
| ryanakca | imbrandon: ah... | 11:21 |
| === ryanakca just lost his uptime :P | ||
| imbrandon | well when you said "anymore ..." i thought you had done it before | 11:22 |
| imbrandon | silly | 11:22 |
| kwwii | ryanakca: don't worry - the only people who care about that stuff are very young :p | 11:23 |
| ryanakca | kwwii: *cough* *cough* | 11:23 |
| === ryanakca won't bother clarifying | ||
| kwwii | my first day at suse I turned my computer off before I left...the next day I was yelled at | 11:24 |
| ryanakca | lol | 11:24 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 11:24 |
| kwwii | in the end I sat in a room with like 7 computers running all the time | 11:24 |
| kwwii | I *had* to listen to music | 11:25 |
| kwwii | or would have gone crazy | 11:25 |
| ryanakca | hmmm... it's playing... but I don't hear anything.. and I'm not deaf (surprisingly, after all that bagpiping), nor are my speakers on mute | 11:25 |
| ryanakca | kwwii: lol | 11:25 |
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| kwwii | ryanakca: I just had an issue in which I had to add the right kernel module to get my sound working | 11:29 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I have the solution for kdeprint issue :) | 11:29 |
| Tonio_ | 4 days searching for this.......... | 11:29 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: Riddell is off to Dublin | 11:29 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: okay | 11:29 |
| ryanakca | kwwii: you aren't the only one who had that problem... someone else was talking to me about it... forget who though | 11:29 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: is there a plan for a usplash background ? black is a bit .......... too black | 11:29 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: we could put it on a solid color | 11:30 |
| kwwii | perhaps #6569ae | 11:30 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: we can try | 11:30 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: isn't a real background image possible technically ? | 11:30 |
| Tonio_ | just asking :) | 11:30 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: only if I would use a simple logo | 11:30 |
| ryanakca | kwwii: see... kde notifications work... just not my music in amarok, or BBC threw FF | 11:31 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: because of 256 colors ? | 11:31 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: yepp | 11:31 |
| Tonio_ | how many are you using currently ? | 11:31 |
| kwwii | 256 colors for both the bg pic and the progress bar | 11:31 |
| Tonio_ | response : 256 | 11:31 |
| Tonio_ | hehe | 11:31 |
| Tonio_ | okay | 11:31 |
| Tonio_ | let's try a background color...... | 11:31 |
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| kwwii | Tonio_: do you know if the stuff I posted yesterday was included? | 11:35 |
| kwwii | I really hope that we get the 640x480 theme in by beta, but Seveas had to make the code for it first | 11:36 |
| DaSkreech | Hmm My edgy is only shoing half of the progress bar for installation | 11:37 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: dunno, which stuff ? | 11:38 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: the usplash with the smaller logo | 11:38 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: I'm about to upload new kds, so it is the moment to include it I think :) | 11:38 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: I don't think so, let me check | 11:38 |
| kwwii | I think Jonthan did it last night | 11:38 |
| DaSkreech | Who does ubiquity for KDE? | 11:38 |
| kwwii | sime | 11:38 |
| kwwii | erm | 11:38 |
| Tonio_ | * Improved uspash images from Ken Wimmer | 11:39 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: by imbrandon | 11:39 |
| Tonio_ | today | 11:39 |
| Tonio_ | DaSkreech: riddell | 11:39 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: that was yesterday ;) | 11:39 |
| kwwii | ahhhhhhhh!!!!! NOOOOOO!!!!! | 11:39 |
| imbrandon | and yea i put your usplash images in | 11:39 |
| kwwii | he spelt my name incorrect :p | 11:40 |
| imbrandon | ouch whoops | 11:40 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: so you did it ? | 11:40 |
| Tonio_ | yeah okay today, yesterday, that's the same. | 11:40 |
| Tonio_ | It is done :) | 11:40 |
| kwwii | Kenneth Wesley Wimer II | 11:40 |
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| kwwii | therefor kwwii | 11:40 |
| imbrandon | kwwii: FWIW i copied it from a Riddell changelog entry ;) | 11:40 |
| kwwii | haha | 11:40 |
| kwwii | I'll get that scottish bastard | 11:40 |
| imbrandon | lol | 11:41 |
| DaSkreech | Tonio_: Ah Cool | 11:41 |
| kwwii | make him buy me a drink | 11:41 |
| imbrandon | i wondered what the hell kwwii was hehe | 11:41 |
| Seveas | Kenneth William Wimer II | 11:41 |
| imbrandon | i always thought of the green fruit | 11:41 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 11:41 |
| kwwii | lots of people from the gnome-side-of-life often think that it means K World War II | 11:41 |
| Seveas | LOL | 11:42 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: LOL | 11:42 |
| Seveas | btw: I'll be proposing another radical but neccessary usplash change when mjg59 is awake | 11:42 |
| kwwii | Seveas: did you have a chance to look into the 640x480 theme? | 11:42 |
| Seveas | to save space on the livecd | 11:42 |
| Seveas | kwwii, not yet | 11:42 |
| kwwii | Seveas: cool, let me at it :-) | 11:42 |
| kwwii | I guess the beta is frozen by now | 11:42 |
| Seveas | today was so hectic, I didn't even get to blog about eurooscon | 11:42 |
| imbrandon | kwwii: yea it is | 11:43 |
| Tonio_ | okay kdeprint issue resolved :) | 11:43 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: ping ? | 11:43 |
| _Sime_ | hi | 11:43 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: just wanted to make a point with the patches fopr media/ | 11:44 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: nothing I can do to help ? | 11:44 |
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| _Sime_ | I don't understand. what are you trying to say? | 11:45 |
| jdong | _Sime_: regarding my feedback on KubuntuKDEMedia, is getting the umount progress dialog back planned? | 11:45 |
| jdong | IMO that's quite an important safety feature | 11:45 |
| _Sime_ | jdong: I haven't removed it. So I don't know what is happening there.... | 11:45 |
| jdong | _Sime_: can you reproduce that it's no longer there? | 11:46 |
| jdong | or do I just have a screwed up system? :) | 11:46 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: is there a way I can test or help you to improve this ? | 11:46 |
| _Sime_ | jdong: I don't think I've ever seen it. :-/ | 11:46 |
| jdong | hmm | 11:46 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: is there a bug I can investigate . | 11:46 |
| jdong | Tonio_: how about the unmounting issue I speak of | 11:46 |
| _Sime_ | I don't see it when I eject a CD. or with my usb thingy. | 11:46 |
| Tonio_ | jdong, let me read :) | 11:46 |
| jdong | Tonio_: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuKDEMedia, feedback, #2 | 11:47 |
| jdong | _Sime_: likewise; but dapper definitely has it :) | 11:47 |
| _Sime_ | maybe it only shows up when there is a lot of data to write back before unmounting. | 11:47 |
| Tonio_ | jdong let me try to reproduce | 11:47 |
| jdong | _Sime_: umm, it never shows up :) | 11:47 |
| _Sime_ | a lot if dialogs in KDE have small time delays built in. | 11:47 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: true | 11:47 |
| _Sime_ | so that they don't flicker on the screen. | 11:48 |
| jdong | _Sime_: the worst-case scenario I had was after unmount, it took a silent 30 seconds to fully sync | 11:48 |
| Tonio_ | it happens only when you are copying big amount of datas to the usb disk | 11:48 |
| jdong | with 400MB of data in write cache | 11:48 |
| jdong | and no progress dialog ever came up | 11:48 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_, jdong I'm trying to reproduce | 11:48 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: I can confirm | 11:49 |
| jdong | hmm, if that's the case perhaps this should go into launchpad | 11:50 |
| _Sime_ | I haven't changed anything there. But I think Riddell might have. | 11:50 |
| jdong | where it can be properly marked and tracked | 11:50 |
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| Tonio_ | jdong maybe that kde 3.5.4 bug and not _Sime_ patches issue | 11:50 |
| jdong | I really don't want to see Edgy release with this serious a bug | 11:50 |
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| _Sime_ | didn't Riddell add a kind of firefox download manager thingy? | 11:50 |
| jdong | Tonio_: right; perhaps it isn't _Sime_'s fault at all | 11:51 |
| jdong | Tonio_: I could've sworn that dapper + kubuntu.org kde-354 worked | 11:51 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: you know what I am talking about? | 11:51 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: Riddell was planning in paris to add that for edgy. | 11:51 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: nope, I never heard about this | 11:52 |
| ryanakca | _Sime_: dunno... just popping into the conversation... I know there's an extension for FF that's for FF + KGet... | 11:52 |
| _Sime_ | I'm not sure if it was completed. | 11:52 |
| Tonio_ | firefox download manager ? | 11:52 |
| _Sime_ | ryanakca: I'm talking about how FF uses 1 window to show the progress of mulitple downloads.' | 11:52 |
| _Sime_ | Riddell wanted the same idea for kioslaves and KDE. | 11:52 |
| ryanakca | _Sime_: ah, kindof like opera? | 11:53 |
| Tonio_ | jdong what would be interesting is asking people on dapper to guess if the issue is on _Sime_'s patches or not | 11:53 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: you can add kget | 11:53 |
| _Sime_ | I'm not talking about kget. | 11:53 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: yeah I know but the result is about the same.....; | 11:53 |
| fdoving | _Sime_: i think the file copy/download dialogs has been on his todo for a long time. | 11:53 |
| jdong | Tonio_: I filed bug 61946 so we don't forget about the issue.... | 11:54 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 61946 in kdebase "umount progress dialog missing in Edgy" [Untriaged,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61946 | 11:54 |
| _Sime_ | I don't know if it actually got into edgy.. | 11:55 |
| jdong | perferably I'd like to see it marked at a higher priority, too | 11:55 |
| Tonio_ | jdong okay | 11:55 |
| Tonio_ | jdong indeed that's very annoying | 11:55 |
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| Tonio_ | I just tried and I removed the key since no popup and I lost the content | 11:56 |
| jdong | Tonio_: yeah, indeed data loss is a real possibility | 11:56 |
| Tonio_ | yup | 11:56 |
| === ryanakca did that as well... | ||
| Tonio_ | jdong checked kde bts ? | 11:57 |
| === jdong remembers when GNOME had the same bug | ||
| jdong | Tonio_: no, the kde bts scares me :) | 11:57 |
| ryanakca | btw? | 11:57 |
| === jdong begs Tonio_ to check for him | ||
| ryanakca | bts? | 11:57 |
| _Sime_ | Tonio_: if you have got nothing else to do this weekend, you could remove riddell's patch for the kio dialogs and see if that fixes the problem. | 11:57 |
| jdong | ryanakca: bug tracker system | 11:57 |
| ryanakca | ah | 11:57 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: true, will do | 11:58 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: let me check which patch is it | 11:58 |
| _Sime_ | I can't find the spec page for it... | 11:58 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: kdelibs patch I assume ? | 11:58 |
| _Sime_ | probably yes | 11:58 |
| === ryanakca should probably be reading a C++ book... | ||
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/16 this patch | 12:01 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: is that patch of any use since media:/ is not used anymore ? | 12:01 |
| _Sime_ | I don't know what it does exactly. But it does not sound like the patch we are looking for. | 12:02 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: hum... | 12:03 |
| _Sime_ | I just thought of something. | 12:03 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: yes ? | 12:04 |
| _Sime_ | Try that unmount test again, except this time open up media:/ and unmount it via media:/. | 12:04 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: but how ? | 12:04 |
| Tonio_ | it's the desktop icon ;) | 12:04 |
| Tonio_ | ah! let me check, I understand what you mean | 12:04 |
| _Sime_ | context menu? | 12:04 |
| _Sime_ | (I think that might be broken now.... media:/ i mean). | 12:05 |
| _Sime_ | I'm going to bed now. I'll try to have a look at this stuff this weekend. | 12:05 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: same issue | 12:06 |
| Tonio_ | so that probably not due to your patches | 12:06 |
| _Sime_ | doesn't work? | 12:06 |
| Tonio_ | no | 12:06 |
| Tonio_ | jdong_: you can reproduce the test, I get the same issue working in media:/ | 12:07 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: so the last big issue is the /media/cdrom0 empty I assume ? | 12:07 |
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| Tonio_ | _Sime_: when did riddell add the patch ? | 12:08 |
| Tonio_ | I don't find it | 12:08 |
| Tonio_ | kubuntu_57_nomediaioslave_fileio.diff maybe this one....... | 12:09 |
| ryanakca | what file provides those little bars with polka dots on them that appear when you have your panel unlocked? it's vertical... has a black arrow on to top of it... | 12:11 |
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