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horaciolupine_85: and if you dont know about what are you speacking, shut up12:11
horacio:)12:12
HawkwindXcalibur: ipkungfu is a great firewall12:12
lupine_85hehe, love you too12:12
HawkwindXcalibur: It's available with apt-get too.12:12
lupine_85you're right, it isn't a distro12:12
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Zairelupine_85: http://pastebin.ca/17909512:12
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XcaliburI just typed in sudo apt get install firestarter, it's installing, if I don't get it to work, I'll go with ipkungfu12:13
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Zaireif you want a distro there's also smoothwall12:13
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lupine_85Zaire: [/usr/src/linux/include]  is wrong. It should be /usr/src/linux-2.6.15-27-386/include12:13
keldon85!java12:13
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository12:13
Zairehowever its for a dedicated box to be used as a hardware firewall12:13
lupine_85the "linux" symlink is deprecated, and shouldn't be used12:13
Zaireah ic I try lol12:14
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wooptydooAnyone get XGL working?12:14
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wooptydoohttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl?highlight=%28xgl%2912:14
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wooptydoois what I am following12:14
lupine_85#ubuntu-xgl for that though12:14
Zaireme tried not so successful lol12:14
keldon85hi, i have noticed a serious error in the instructions for https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories12:15
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lupine_85good fun, but eats RAM like it's muesli12:15
wooptydooAnd it aint working12:15
wooptydoogot another site I can go to?12:15
lupine_85keldon85: so register and change it. It's a wiki :)12:15
keldon85oh!12:15
wooptydooWell I typed in kubuntu XGL12:15
Zairelol thats what I figured but I just wanted to see what it looked like rather then look at the screen shots12:15
lupine_85wooptydoo: post in #ubuntu-xgl and someone will help fix your problem12:15
wooptydooon the kubuntu site12:15
wooptydoowow12:15
wooptydoothere is a channel for it12:16
wooptydoothanks a million12:16
Zaireok that directory didn't work either lol12:16
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DragnslcrI have a wav file that plays fine in KWave, sounds bad in Kaffeine, and doesn't play at all as a notification sound in apps (Kopete, Konversation)12:17
DragnslcrAny ideas on fixing it and/or converting it to a different format?12:17
Zairetry xmms12:17
lupine_85Zaire: pastebin? Also, maybe /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build/include would work for you12:17
lupine_85is this the latest version of vmware-workstation, by the way?12:18
Zaireyep12:18
lupine_85the configure scripts for older versions were hopeless at this particular step12:18
Xcaliburwhats a good firewall to block connections that are inbound12:18
XcaliburI'm trying to use it for xbox live bridging12:18
Zairea linksys router lol12:18
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sorush20is my computer leaking its ip to every one?12:19
Zairethere we go12:19
DragnslcrZaire- can xmms convert the file to something that notifications can handle?12:19
rawrahh how many things must I screw up my computer still i am happy.12:19
Xcaliburfirestarter won't allow me to block connections for inbound12:19
rawrtimes*12:19
LeeJunFansorush20: yeah, and it's getting all over the place - what a frikin mess.12:19
Zaireummm not that I know of12:19
ZaireIm not sure if k audio creator would though it might12:19
lupine_85Dragnslcr: mencoder might do it12:20
Zaireor that12:20
lupine_85sorush: 82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk12:20
lupine_85ywa12:20
lupine_85yes*12:20
DragnslcrZaire- KWave supposedly can convert it, but I keep getting unhelpful error messages when I try saving as ogg12:20
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lupine_85not exactly "leaking", though, since it's an integral part of the Internet to allow your IP to be shown off12:20
Zairelol such is the world of linux you never know what will happen next lol12:20
lupine_85mind you, blueyonder's rdns is often too revealing for it's own good12:20
sorush20LeeJunFan: are you messing with me ? how do I fix this?12:21
Zairethanks lupin_85 Vm is now configured lol12:21
lupine_85cool :)12:21
lupine_85sorush20: you can't "fix" it12:21
lupine_85freenode doesn't allow you to connect from a proxy12:21
LeeJunFansorush20: yes, I'm messing with you. Every packet your computer sends out has to have your IP attached to it so it knows how to get back. There's nothing "broken".12:21
lupine_85if you don't give our your IP address, nobody can return packets to you12:21
deadsoulHow to open wma formatted files in Kubuntu?12:21
Zairenow I just have to see how good the vmware vid card is for battle field 2 lol12:21
lupine_85formatted as...?12:21
deadsoulwma12:21
rawrjust use amarok12:21
lupine_85Zaire: hopeless :)12:22
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deadsoulok thanks12:22
rawri am playing wma formated iron maiden right now12:22
Zairewell atleast for my nero need it should work12:22
deadsoulBut it is movie12:22
deadsoulWill it work?12:22
OODmove is wmv12:22
OODmovie*12:22
lupine_85deadsoul: no :). that's wmv. you'll need w32codecs and mplayer/kaffeine... assuming you have a 32-bit kernel12:22
Zaireummm theres a restricted format you have to get12:23
rawroh yes.12:23
sorush20LeeJunFan: I've just become paranoid about security..12:23
Zaire!restricted12:23
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:23
rawrthat thingy.12:23
lupine_85if not, get a 32-bit chroot going, and optionally use mencoder to change the format12:23
h3sp4wnsorush20: Use openbsd then12:23
deadsoulOh, sorry. Yeah it was wmv. Thanks for the help ...12:23
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Zairewget -c http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/non-free/w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb12:23
rawrif you have windows dual booted you can just convert the movie first12:23
Samuli^has anyone else noticed that amarok playing last.fm doesn't sound as good as last.fm player?12:23
deadsoulthanks a lot12:23
lupine_85ooooh free pr0n :)12:23
Zaireyou need to do that line I sent in cli12:23
deadsoul:D12:23
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DragnslcrAre there any special settings (bit rate, etc.) that I need to set on a wav file to convert it to ogg?12:25
lupine_85not really12:25
OODnope12:25
OODwav is lossless12:25
deadsoulThanks a lot Zaire, rawr and ubotu. It worked.12:25
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DragnslcrI keep getting "One or more encoding parameters are not supported"12:25
lupine_85192kbps is generally a good tradeoff between size and quality12:25
Zaireno probs :)12:25
lupine_85do you have oggenc installed?12:25
lupine_85!oggenc12:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about oggenc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:25
lupine_85erm, 1 second12:25
sinpathok need a little help finding the right modle on the add printer wizerd12:26
isaac_hello doesany of u knows a newbies manual to enable wifi, iam using a dell 1370 and ubuntu 6.0612:26
Zairehmmmm printer is a pain lol I haven't added mine in yet but it took me a min to figure it out the first time12:27
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Dragnslcrlupine_85- I do have libogg0 installed, if that's what you're looking for12:27
isaac_hello doesany of u knows a newbies manual to enable wifi, iam using a dell 1370 and ubuntu 6.0612:27
lupine_85!vorbis-tools12:27
ubotuvorbis-tools: several Ogg Vorbis tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.1-3 (dapper), package size 90 kB, installed size 724 kB12:27
sinpathit has the manufacturer but not the modle12:28
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lupine_85Dragnslcr: install that12:28
lupine_85sinpath: 1300 didn't work?12:28
OODlibogg isn;t what you want12:28
sinpathnope12:28
OODthat's for compiling apps that require ogg support12:28
Dragnslcrlupine_85- vorbis-tools is also installed12:28
LeeJunFanI guess windows Vista is so huge it is no longer vulnerable to worms, instead it gets infected with graboids.12:28
Zvezdichkolol12:29
OODgraboids?12:29
LeeJunFanTremors - the movie.12:29
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sinpathoh hold on it seems my printer has an error >.<12:29
lupine_85:)12:30
DragnslcrI just find it odd that KWave, Kaffeine, and notifications all seem to handle wav files differently12:30
rawrTremors was awesome12:30
lupine_85it's basically raw data, so the programs have to make certain decisions about it12:30
rawrand so was that refernce12:30
lupine_85you can use oggenc directly... I'm just looking for the options you need12:30
keldon85hiiii need serious help12:31
DragnslcrYeah, but I would think they'd all pass it off to the same audio processing system12:31
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rawrvisa when released fully will be full of ass-blasters12:31
MasterEvilAcewhats happening12:31
lupine_85Dragnslcr: linux has so many different audio processing systems... ;)12:31
lupine_85ok, you want "oggenc infile.wav -q 6 -o out.ogg"12:31
LeeJunFanrawr: haha!12:31
keldon85i'm trying to install sun-java, but now the installation has reached the point when it needs input for the 'i agree' statement12:31
isaac_hello doesany of u knows a newbies manual to enable wifi, iam using a dell 1370 and ubuntu 6.0612:31
lupine_85change -q as appropriate (6 is highest quality, 1 is lowest)12:32
MasterEvilAceRawr: how in the world did you manage to register that name12:32
lupine_85!wifi12:32
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:32
Zairejava is an easy one12:32
OODkeldon86: you using adept to install it?12:32
keldon85unfortunately when I go to "Show Details" it only displays half of the screen and appears to have locked up12:32
keldon85OOD: yes12:32
OODyou have to use apt-get in cli12:32
isaac_ubotu: thnks12:32
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thnks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:32
rawrwhy the hell would anyone so much as abuse linux so much to make it look like windows.....12:33
OODit's a bug in adept, don't know if it's been fixed yet12:33
taylorhey everybody, whats up?12:33
isaac_ubotu: thanks12:33
ubotuThanks for the help!12:33
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keldon85OOD: Only problem is that it is half way through the installation already12:33
OODyou'll have to cancel it, no other way around it12:33
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Dragnslcrlupine_85- that seems to have worked. Thanks12:34
keldon85there is no option to cancel it; and if I xkill the app then I will have a corrupt installation12:34
keldon85does the input still respond12:34
lupine_85np :)12:34
OODyou have to kill the app, that's what i meant12:34
LeeJunFanrawr: that's a sore spot with me.... Every time I hear someone say, "Linux needs to do X like windows, so people can easily switch to it." I think - if you like windows so damn much - stick to it, and don't drag linux down with ya. I wouldn't be using it if it were just like windows. hehe12:34
DragnslcrOut of curiosity, what's the recommended hardware option for an Audigy 2 card? Alsa?12:34
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keldon85i know how to kill apps, but if i do then i end up with an incomplete and corrupt installation12:35
MasterEvilAcei like Linux to ACT like windows, in the sense that Shading is stupid, and i don't see a reason why i need to MOVE and RESIZE maximized windows.. but i like linux to look like linux :)12:35
keldon85this caused a few problems last time12:35
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OODthere's no other wayt12:35
OODyou can't continue the installation in adept12:35
h3sp4wnMasterEvilAce: Linux is just a kernel12:35
Zaireso anyone know when edgy is gonna have a DVD iso?12:35
ryan_i have a dvd with music stored on mp3 format as a back up. how do i mount the disk so i can copy over the files12:35
DragnslcrMasterEvilAce- actually that reminds me of another question I wanted to ask. Is there any trick to getting KDE to remember window positions?12:35
MasterEvilAceh3sp4wn: and i want it to look like a kernel too!12:35
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h3sp4wnMasterEvilAce: How does a kernel look ?12:36
MasterEvilAceh3sp4wn: Before it's popped it's a small seed12:36
LeeJunFanDragnslcr: yeah, right click on the titlebar.12:36
Zairelol12:36
LeeJunFanDragnslcr: there's all kinds of settings you can set, sticky, size, decoration, etc...12:36
Zairegood one lol12:36
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MasterEvilAceh3sp4wn: I meant KDE anyways :( don't go crazy12:36
MasterEvilAceDragnslcr: KDE seems to remember my positions.. hmm.12:37
h3sp4wnMasterEvilAce: I am crazy cannot help it12:37
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keldon85ok, where is the .lock file for Adept, or do i not need to delete it?12:37
keldon85because it is saying that another adept program is running12:38
OODno need to delete it12:38
OODjust kill adept and apt-get12:38
keldon85and adept cannot make any edits12:38
DragnslcrLeeJunFan- Special Application Settings?12:38
MasterEvilAceDragnslcr: Hey, try to right click title bar and go to Advanced - >Special Window Settings .. and you can check "position" and "size" i think..12:38
MasterEvilAceOh, yeah Leejun said it first12:38
DragnslcrYeah, found that. Is that global, or will I have to set it for each app?12:38
MasterEvilAceapp-specific12:39
LeeJunFanDragnslcr: I think that's it. I actually can't tell ya exactly right now - I'm running xgl - not kde's window decorator.12:39
sinpathok thanks it did work was just i didnt have the printer ink in12:39
DragnslcrYeah, XGL is on my list of stuff to try12:39
MasterEvilAceI'm giong to wait until XGL becomes an auto-installing package.. I tried it once. way too much trouble12:39
DragnslcrI installed the xserver-xgl package, I just have to figure out how to use it12:39
lupine_85keldon85: the error message tells you12:40
LeeJunFanDragnslcr: I used that to make sure things like kopete opened sticky, and gkrellm, etc... That's one thing I don't like about XGL is that kde's window manager doesn't work with it - and I don't get access to those properties.12:40
lupine_85 /var/cache/dpkg/lock IIRC12:40
OODDragnslcr: there's much more to it then just downloading the package12:40
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sinpathok dose this mean i have to install the scaner & coper part sepritly then?12:40
jacob_There are a few things i am most thankfull for.12:40
DragnslcrOOD- yeah, figured there would be. I think XGL may be a weekend project at some point12:40
keldon85ok it's fine now thanks12:40
jacob_1. Is kubuntu, and B. Surge Protecters12:41
OODDragnslcr: this package will autoinstall it for you :) http://www.compiz.net/topic-689-xgl-kubuntu-automatic-xgl-installation12:41
keldon85last time it can't remember what i did to fix anything ... and then after that adept was installing jre fine12:41
jacob_if not for  surge protecters my computer would be so fryed12:41
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jacob_from it getin unpluged every 2 mins.12:41
OODjust add these repos to your sources.list: http://www.compiz.net/topic-74-repository-for-date-xgl-dapper-packages and http://www.compiz.net/topic-2-quinn-ubuntu-packages12:41
larson9999jacob_: how do you sing the alphabet song? 1, b, 2, c, ...?12:42
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jacob_hapens when you are using a 50 ft garden extention cord to get power.12:42
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jacob_larson : using  single tense a,b,c,d is conformity.12:42
OODkeldon86: no problem :)12:42
jacob_thanks for remininding me., though12:42
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rawr__forgot to change it.12:42
jj_does anyone in here use 2 screens?12:43
rawr__I wish.12:43
grotheskjj_: I do.12:43
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jj_xinerama is killing me12:44
jj_i cant get it to work with ATI drivers12:44
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OODyeah ati is a pain to get working properly12:44
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lupine_85 sinpath: solution! http://hpoj.sourceforge.net/suplist.shtml12:44
lupine_85suggests that you use DJ3320 as your driver12:45
lupine_85(e.g. select DeskJet 3320 as the model)12:45
sinpathok thanks man12:45
lupine_85the scanner should "just work"12:45
Captain_RedbeardHmmm quick question... where is the splashscreen during boot-up set? what is it that controls it?12:46
deadsoulHow the learn the ip of the host of a site from terminaL?12:46
deadsoulhow to*12:46
OODping www.hostsite.com i think12:47
deadsoullet me try12:47
lupine_85just ping it12:48
lupine_85or you can dig it12:48
metalero9kike12:48
deadsoulOk it worked12:48
metalero9 estas12:48
deadsoulthanks12:48
OOD:)12:48
lupine_85now you can get those hax0r tools out again ;)12:48
deadsoulDoes Yakuake have kubuntu package?12:49
deadsoulAhha12:49
deadsouljust try to learn basic command that can be used in terminal :)12:49
grotheskdeadsoul: It does.12:49
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grothesk<--- yakuake addict12:49
deadsoulgrothesk how to download and install it by using terminal?12:50
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deadsoulwget -????12:50
grotheskapt-get install yakuake ???12:50
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deadsoulohi ok thanks a lot12:50
OODthat's if it's in the repository12:51
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grotheskIt's in universe.12:51
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DragnslcrThis look right for the repos list, OOD?  deb http://www.compiz.net/topic-2-quinn-ubuntu-packages dapper main restricted12:51
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lupine_85that looks wrong12:52
rawrnessyakuake owns12:52
OODuse this: http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/12:52
DragnslcrYeah, I'm not sure what the rest of the options should be12:52
rawrnessjust just add and remove programs12:53
lupine_85or this: http://compiz-mirror.lupine.me.uk/ ;)12:53
rawrnessthus where i got mine.12:53
larson9999walmart selling cheap drugs?  trying to lure me back, i see.12:53
lupine_85you want "dapper main" then extra repos depending on any special requirements12:53
deadsoulOOD is right i think. I get such an error "E: Couldn't find package yakuake"12:53
larson9999oops! wrong channel12:53
lupine_85aiglx? main-amd64?12:53
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lupine_85s/repos/sections12:54
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momuthalguem fala portugues ???12:54
lupine_85!pt12:54
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.12:54
OODdeadsoul: you have universe repos open?12:54
momuthblz12:54
deadsoulHow to do that I am new to Linux12:54
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OODyou can do it through adept, or you can edit the repo list yourself12:55
deadsoulOh I have upgraded it yesterday by installing new packages.12:56
deadsoulI have upgraded it12:56
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OODim in windows now, but i'm pretty sure the list is in /etc/apt/sources.lst12:57
sabbonsoir12:57
deadsoulOk let me check12:57
OODjust do this in terminal: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.lst12:57
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OODthis will start the kate editor in root so you can edit the file12:57
Hawkwindkdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list  actually12:57
Admiral_Chicagodeadsoul, /etc/apt/sources.list12:57
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OODkate, or kwrite doesn't matter :)12:58
HawkwindReplace kwrite with whatever12:58
Admiral_Chicagokate is better....12:58
HawkwindOOD: You had the file wrong12:58
sabnot skeak french ?12:58
HawkwindAdmiral_Chicago: Personal opinion only12:58
jj_whats the command to restart X?12:58
gnomefreakkedit12:58
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Hawkwindjj_: ctrl-alt-backspace12:58
gnomefreak:)12:58
Admiral_Chicagoalt ctrl backspace12:58
jj_thanks12:58
Admiral_Chicagoah i'm so slow12:58
deadsoulList is empty12:58
Admiral_Chicago/etc/apt/sources.list12:58
OODit can't be12:59
Admiral_Chicagotahts not possible12:59
Hawkwinddeadsoul: /etc/apt/sources.list that's why12:59
OODit means you didnt type it in correctly12:59
HawkwindOOD: You told him the wrong file that's why12:59
OODyeah12:59
deadsoulLet me check again12:59
OODmy bad12:59
Admiral_ChicagoOOD, you forgot the .list12:59
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Hawkwinddeadsoul: Read what Admiral_Chicago and I stated12:59
OODyeah i said lst instead of list12:59
troyevening folks - does anyone know the anything about the status of using 32bit packages on edgy? (as in, is it transparent? can I install opera 32bit from apt?)12:59
troyon amd64, that is01:00
Hawkwindtroy: You probably can, however, #Ubuntu+1 is the edgy channel really01:00
troyHawkwind: that's what I needed to know :)01:00
deadsouldeb http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted01:00
deadsouldeb-src http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted01:00
OODhave there been any changes in regard to better amd64 support?01:00
OODin edgy?01:00
lupine_85OOD: everything is pretty much the samwe as it was in dapper01:00
Admiral_Chicagolupine_85, not true01:00
lupine_85...since the 32bit/4bit distinction is only really relavent for closed-source programs01:01
deadsoulAs you can see it is restricted.....01:01
Admiral_Chicagoupstart is not pretty much the same as dapper01:01
HawkwindOOD: Very doubtful that much will change for another year or so.  64Bit is just too new still01:01
Admiral_Chicagoah yea01:01
lupine_85erm, 64, not 4 ;)01:01
HawkwindAdmiral_Chicago: upstart isn't just for 64Bit though :)01:01
Admiral_Chicagoi know, but its awesome and new to edgy01:02
deadsoulSo what to change in sources.list?01:02
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grotheskWill upstart be activated in edgy?01:02
OODbut its mpt specific to 64 bit01:02
lupine_85however, the question was... "[00:00]  <OOD> have there been any changes in regard to better amd64 support?"01:02
Hawkwinddeadsoul: What are you trying to do ?01:02
Hawkwindgrothesk: It already is01:02
lupine_85grothesk: yes01:02
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grothesk.k01:02
lupine_85ah, that reminds me...01:02
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deadsoulHawkwind I try to install yakuake01:03
OODwhich is in universe01:03
deadsoulI dont have any idea why i am in sources.list but they want me to open it :D01:03
Hawkwinddeadsoul: You need to enable all of your repos01:03
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Hawkwind!repos > deadsoul01:03
OOD;) you're there for a reason01:03
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Hawkwinddeadsoul: Read what the bot just pm'd you01:03
jman8888http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=KDE4+Windows+Port01:04
jman8888The evil.01:04
deadsoulOk thanks a lot guys...01:04
lupine_85oh. my. gods.01:04
lupine_85no01:04
OODjman8888: what's so evil about it?01:04
DragnslcrHas anyone had any luck getting a bluetooth mouse to work? (Logitech MX1000)01:04
jman8888Porting KDE to windows XP01:04
OODplasma (the whole desktop environment) isn't getting ported to XP01:04
HawkwindDragnslcr: I use the MX1000 laser mouse01:05
HawkwindDragnslcr: I merely plugged it in and it worked01:05
DragnslcrHawkwind- that must be nice01:05
Hawkwindjman8888: That's super old news actually :P01:05
jj_is your USB controller installed correctly?01:05
HawkwindDragnslcr: It's just a USB mouse is all it is01:05
jman8888Hawkwind, Digg is good for that stuff.01:05
DragnslcrUnless having a second USB mouse plugged in would make the system not bother looking for it01:06
jman8888Hawkwind, But im still mad.01:06
jj_why do you have 2?01:06
OODyou won't be able to run the KDE desktop on windows01:06
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OODthat part isn't getting ported01:06
jman8888So what is ported.01:06
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lupine_85artsd? ;)01:07
OODQT401:07
jman8888QT4?01:07
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ConsoleFxhow i can use cross cable for transferring date between 2 computers (kubuntu <->windows)01:08
OODyes the QT library01:08
lupine_85oh, so it just lets you recompile Qt source into a windows binary?01:08
DragnslcrWhen I move the mouse, the bluetooth icon activates for a second, but the pointer doesn't actually move.01:08
lupine_85ConsoleFx: Plug it in. plug it in. configure the ip addresses (static is best)01:08
jman8888So that means Windows users will have kde programs...01:08
lupine_85"might"01:08
OODsome programs yes01:08
OODlike konqueror01:08
lupine_85assuming anyone bothers to build it for them ;)01:08
ConsoleFxlupine_85:  how ??01:08
ConsoleFxplz tell01:08
DragnslcrThere any way to get the system to scan for the bluetooth mouse without logging out/restarting?01:08
swatgossspeaking about KDE4 ?01:09
lupine_85use the Networking applet in system settings?01:09
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tony_hello everyone..01:09
ConsoleFxuse the Networking applet in system settings.. then??01:09
tony_How can i change default programs in kubuntu ????01:09
OODthe KDE desktop environment is too dependent on X that;s why it isn't being ported to Windows01:09
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HawkwindKDE has already been ported to Windows actually01:10
OODyeah a very old version i think01:10
jman8888Hawkwind, ...01:10
HawkwindOOD: Ummm, 3.5.2 isn't that old01:10
lupine_85ConsoleFx: ah, you want to transfer files?01:10
OOD3.5 was ported?01:10
swatgossi got a .bin, a JDK on a CD from a book to learn Java01:10
OODcan i get a link>01:10
swatgosshow to install it on my Kubuntu ? :/01:10
ConsoleFxlupine_85:  ya01:10
OODim on XP now :D01:10
HawkwindOOD: I do believe so.  They have no reason to port an older version01:11
Hawkwindswatgoss: KDE4 isn't out yet01:11
lupine_85install openssh-server on the kubuntu machine. Google for, and download, psftp.exe on the windows machine.01:11
swatgossHawkwindi know01:11
tolkan_OOD: do you have a website with instructions on porting KDE to windows?01:11
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OODi dont, im asking for it :D01:11
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Hawkwindtolkan_: It's already been ported01:11
lupine_85the alternative is samba, and I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy01:11
ConsoleFxokie01:11
Hawkwindtolkan_: You can just install it01:11
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ConsoleFxthnx01:11
tolkan_Hawkwind: do you have a link01:11
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Hawkwindtolkan_: Nope.  I don't touch Windows anything, sorry01:11
OODlol01:12
Hawkwindtolkan: Google knows all though :)01:12
OODi googled around, but could only find a cygwin port of v1.12 or something01:12
mhoyeFew quick questions: 1) I seem to be running 2.6.17, but I can't find a source package for it.01:12
rawrnessgoogle is your best friend01:12
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lupine_85!info linux-source-2.6.17 edgy01:12
tolkanHawkwind: haha, well do ou know anything about Python implementation in ubuntu? i'm haveing trouble it recognizing the gtk2 bindings01:12
ubotulinux-source-2.6.17: Linux kernel source for version 2.6.17 with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17-8.22 (edgy), package size 44988 kB, installed size 45120 kB01:12
BluDog_Anchoritegoogle stole my girlfriend, and ate my leftover pizza01:13
OODthis is all i found: http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/01:13
Hawkwindmhoye: You running Edgy ?01:13
mhoyeOk is that in edgy only?01:13
OODthat;s KDE 1.4501:13
lupine_85google stole my pizza, and ate my girlfriend :'(01:13
OODand 3.1.401:13
saxtonis there an easy way to reenable the CUPS web interface?01:14
swatgossanybody know the installation method for a .bin "shell script"01:14
swatgosslooking in docs01:14
Hawkwindswatgoss: sh file.bin01:14
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Hawkwindswatgoss: Sometimes you have to chmod +x file.bin first01:14
swatgossdo i have to copy the file to HDD before ?01:14
swatgossits on a CD01:14
Hawkwindmhoye: Are you running Edgy ?01:14
BluDog_Anchoriteswatgoss: and if this is java you are talking about installing, why not get if from the repo's01:15
mhoyeOk, about Edgy: I used to run Sid, so I just pointed apt at that and got the latest/greatest. Is that what "edgy" means in Ubuntu?01:15
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swatgossBluDog_Anchorite ... could be an idea :p01:15
Hawkwindmhoye: Edgy is still beta and breaks quite often.  #Ubuntu+1 is the Edgy channel.  However, we recommend you run the latest stable which is Dapper01:15
Hawkwind!java > swatgoss01:15
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lupine_85mhoye: not really. edgy is, well, more edgy than sid :)01:16
Hawkwindswatgoss: Read the info the bot pm'd you about java if that's what you are installing01:16
swatgossBluDog_Anchorite but i could learn to install something on linux without adpet or konsole so :p01:16
jpiccolo_!gdm01:16
ubotugdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.10-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1681 kB, installed size 11588 kB01:16
OODHawkwind: KDE runs in cygwin, but there isn't a native implementation for windows: http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/kde3/screenshots.php01:16
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Hawkwindswatgoss: It's best to stick with .deb files and such if possible instead of compiling things01:16
swatgossok will try this way 1st  :p01:16
rawrnessi am geting a werid error of late01:16
deadsoulOh yes, I installed Yakuake. Thanks a lot for your helps....01:16
HawkwindOOD: Like I said, I haven't touched Windows in 4+ years and don't plan on it  either in the next 150 years atleast :P01:17
swatgossJDK 1-5-0-03 i586.bin01:17
tony_How can i change deafaul programs ??? i want to change different browser , movie player .01:17
rawrness!pastebin01:17
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:17
lupine_85tony_: system settings01:17
mhoyeOk, if dapper's the way to go, are the Suspend2 patches integrated into Ubuntu's kernel tree?01:17
OODHawkwind: 4 years, not bad :D01:19
tony_lupine, thanks , i been there , but i have no idea which of those programs would do the job01:19
lupine_85then stick with the defaults? :)01:20
DragnslcrWhat's the correct way to get programs to load on logon?01:21
HawkwindDragnslcr: ~/.kde/Autostart01:21
DragnslcrJust drop in symlinks?01:21
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rawrnessi was also wondering about hat.01:22
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domis there a handy shortcut in kate to insert the current date and/or time?01:24
swatgosslook on system clock, and type what you see ?01:25
mhoyeOr: is there a "ubuntu-patch" package that's got all the patches that are applied to a vanilla kernel.org kernel?01:25
tony_how can i make VLC my deafult Media player ???? :)01:25
swatgossopen with ?01:25
swatgossricht clic01:25
swatgossopen with, list or something like that01:25
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swatgossselect VLC associate .....01:26
OODrun kcontrol, and in one of the options there is a way to set default programs to certain file tupes01:26
xoseswatgoss: it doesn't work for me with VLC01:26
OODtypes*01:26
tony_but using Firefox , and links on webpage, i don't have this option01:26
deadsoulIs there any good p2p program that can be used in Kubuntu that you can advice except KTorrent (it does not download anything, so slow :) )01:26
OODfrostwire (it's java)01:27
swatgossall java clients ?01:27
tony_im using amule deadsoul01:27
BluDog_Anchorite!frostwire > deadsoul01:27
OODor you can use wine to run windows p2p programs01:27
deadsoulOk thanks a lot again. I will try frostwire01:27
swatgossshareaza :p01:27
swatgosslol01:27
deadsoulI will never use wine :)01:27
domdeadsoul, I've never had problems with ktorrent but you can run azureus01:28
OODwine is amazing01:28
swatgosswine contain "win"01:28
swatgosscan't work ...01:28
OODo.001:28
BluDog_Anchoritemy favorite p2p is still "hey man, can i burn a copy of that ?"01:28
deadsoul:)01:28
swatgossdo Wine have blue screen option ?01:28
deadsoulHahahah01:28
deadsoul:D01:28
OODnope01:28
swatgossbah01:29
OODonly windows :)01:29
swatgossWine suxxx ...01:29
OODand reactos01:29
swatgossit only do 50% of windows work !01:29
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OODerm, what?01:29
swatgossWine don't have blue screen, its only a half of windows !01:29
swatgoss"windows's work" is better ?01:30
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rawrnessnow only  if ddin't have to use wine or windows01:30
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swatgossdo = achieve :p01:30
swatgossWine only achieve 50% of windows's work01:30
swatgossit only run programs :p01:31
swatgossbasicus trolla ergo sum ...01:32
rawrnessgag linux and java are evil.01:32
swatgoss:'(01:32
swatgossjust started Java ...01:32
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rawrnessor rather installing java on linux01:32
swatgosswill i have to stop to be a better linuser ?01:32
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BluDog_Anchoriteanyone know where i might find a list of ncurses or CLI only games ?01:34
Hawkwindpackages.ubuntu.com01:34
swatgosson DSLinux :p01:34
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swatgossyou have 2 text RPG01:34
keldon85hi, i am having weird and annoying problems installing my gfx card01:35
keldon85I am following help:/kubuntu/desktopguide/hardware.html01:35
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keldon85i have an ati radeon 9250, mandrake and kubuntu identify it as 'ATI Radeon (fglrx)'01:36
keldon85but when I go into system settings->hardware, the card appears as vesa01:36
Hawkwind!ati01:36
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:36
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keldon85ahh01:37
rawrnesssudo is acting up... giving me errors now.01:37
larson9999BluDog_Anchorite: try the linux game tome01:37
swatgossi got an idea ... Java = sun, unix = sun, so unix can run uncompiled java :p01:37
rawrnesshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2429901:37
rawrnesso wait perhaps the 2ed error message is adept...01:38
swatgossKDE runs under Unix ? .................... i don't really need an answer01:38
OODrawrness: yeah you have to close adept before using apt-get in terminal01:39
rawrnessI am so noobish01:39
swatgossthats a good idea ...01:39
rawrnessi surpize my slef01:39
rawrnessbut yet again if i didn't break everything01:40
rawrnesswhat else would i have to do01:40
DeadSouL!keepass01:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about keepass - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:40
swatgossavoid contact with normal people ?01:40
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OODit's called KeePassX for Linux and OS X01:41
DeadSouLoh thanks :)01:41
swatgosswhat is it ?01:41
DeadSouL!KeePassX01:42
OODhttp://keepassx.sourceforge.net/en/01:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about KeePassX - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:42
OODnp :)01:42
DeadSouLPassword manager01:42
DeadSouLwith cool options01:42
swatgossKDEwallet or something else ?01:42
OODthere's a deb file for download at that site01:42
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|GaiJin|ehm... have they removed the webmin from kbuntu??01:42
rawrnessi tend to avoid deb, and related like the plauge01:43
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OODeh?01:43
DeadSouLWell, as I said I am new to Linux. So I am not sure if it is like KDEwallet or not.01:43
DeadSouLI was using KeePass in Win...01:44
swatgossok, no pb :p01:44
gregHi ya. I'm trying to upgrade to dapper, I found a guide to do so and it says to use aptitude to install kubuntu-desktop. when I issue that command it bitches about unmet dependencies and broken packages. Any idea why?01:44
OODrawrness: you compile everything from source?01:44
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fa701:44
DeadSouLSo I have a database file. I have to read it in Kubuntu too :).01:44
Makro2a1F701:45
rawrnessnope i tend to avoid things if i can't get it with adept01:45
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rawrnessotherwise adept is my best friend01:45
swatgossyou adopted adept ?01:45
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swatgoss--------> [_] 01:46
gregyeah adept rules. beat rpm hekk01:46
greghell that is01:46
OODadept is really buggy01:46
OODfreezes a lot on me01:46
OODbut i use it anyway since i like it way more than synaptic :)01:47
swatgosswhen it runs :p01:47
gregreally? not me01:47
gregso anyone have these problems upgrading to dapper?01:47
swatgosssometimes i enter my pass01:47
swatgossand ... nothing01:47
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gregswatgoss i wonder why I never have that problem. Hardware?01:49
swatgossmy hard ?01:49
gregyeah01:50
gregi wonder if it uses like all the memory01:50
gregor cpu01:50
swatgosshummm Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo D7850, Prescott Mobile 3.06GHz HT, 1024MB DDR333, 60GB 5400rpm, Radeon Mobility 9200 64MB01:51
swatgossfull CPU and full RAM :p01:51
DeadSouLWhen I click on KeePassX .deb package it says that "Sorry, application is not in (PATH) folder. Please install it or bla bla...". How can I install it?01:51
swatgossdon't think so ...01:51
rawrnessi once got that error before01:51
gregyeah, beats my little box all to hell01:51
rawrnessi don't rember what i did.01:52
swatgossi prefer my desk PC ...01:52
gregdoes it get fm?01:52
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OODright click on it and select package install01:53
swatgossradio receiver ?01:53
DeadSouLok01:53
swatgossor frequency modulation ?01:53
DeadSouLwill try it01:53
gregswatgoss...sorry i was just being a smartass01:53
swatgosslol01:53
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swatgossi wanna turn the CPU/RAM to 100MHz freq ...01:54
swatgossbot didn't find any pinmod for P401:54
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gregswatgoss: did you have any trouble upgrading to dapper?01:55
swatgossto dapper nope01:55
swatgossinstalling from CD :p01:55
swatgosscrashed my old partition ...01:55
gregmight be the best way01:55
swatgossso reinstall needed01:55
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swatgossmy old 2.5GB partition was cracshin everytime i tried to install 2 686 kernels01:56
swatgossnot enough space ...01:56
swatgossnow with 4.5GB its ok :p01:56
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DeadSouLHmm I installed KeePassX by the way ODD described but i could not see it in K menu after "kbuildsycoca"ing by the help of terminal. How can I add it to menu?01:57
rawrnesstat i got my flash runing.01:57
rawrnessso appy01:57
DeadSouL:)01:57
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rawrnesswow things dot real dead02:05
rawrnessgot*02:05
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gregDeadSouL: if you know where it installed to you can add a launcher to the panel02:06
DeadSouLI dont know where it is installed02:06
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DeadSouLIs there another way?02:06
gregbinary files are usually put in /usr/bin02:08
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DeadSouLOk  i will check02:08
Dinkwoot 2.6.18 kernel and 8.29.6 ati drivers02:08
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rawrnessIf not  you can always try locate: kee02:08
justinmt7hi everyone02:08
rawrnessin konquer02:09
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justinmt7i just installed kunbuntu.  I can't get my wireless network card to work.  It's a linksys WPC54G card and i can't find linux drivers for it on the website.  Any suggestions?  The card has power and wireless assistant won't pick it up02:10
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rawrnessyet again another networking problem.....02:10
rawrnessThat may be a pain in the ass when i get my laptop.02:11
justinmt7im brand new to linux btw02:11
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en1gmahey all02:12
en1gmawuzzup02:12
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gregjustinmt7: have you tried searching the forums for your card?02:13
en1gmaim using kubuntu live dvd....i have an NF4 mboard that has onboard nvraid (i know its fake raid) now i have 4 sata drives in a raid 0 and there are 2 partitions (1 for windows) and (future 1 for kubuntu) but what i want to know now is how do i mount that array02:13
justinmt7greg--doing that now and can't find my problem being addressed02:14
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en1gmaanyone?02:15
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en1gmam using kubuntu live dvd....i have an NF4 mboard that has onboard nvraid (i know its fake raid) now i have 4 sata drives in a raid 0 and there are 2 partitions (1 for windows) and (future 1 for kubuntu) but what i want to know now is how do i mount that array02:15
en1gmacrap sorry02:15
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rawrnessI see02:17
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rawrnessen1gma i suggest perhaps making a thrird partion for shared files such as media02:18
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rawrnessmount that as home, the one you want to linux as /02:18
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rawrnessand also make your self a swap02:18
rawrnessleave the windows partion alone.02:19
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Josh_anyone use any type of spyware/adware programs for kubuntu? or is that not necessary?02:20
Josh_or is there one provided?02:20
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phsx211anyone use any tpe of spyware/adware programs for kubuntu or is that not necessary?02:21
lupine_85phsx211: not really needed02:22
gregrawrness did you upgrade breezy to dapper?02:22
lupine_85but...02:22
lupine_85!chkrootkit02:22
ubotuchkrootkit: Checks for signs of rootkits on the local system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.46a-2 (dapper), package size 241 kB, installed size 688 kB02:22
lupine_85much less unlikely :)02:22
rawrnessnope just formated drive XD02:22
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rawrnessi probly said something out of context thoguh02:23
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en1gmarawness02:24
rawrnessyes02:24
en1gmafirst i need to see if i can see the partions02:24
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en1gmahow do i do that...all i see in /dev/mapper is "control" no partions02:24
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en1gmaim not sure which version of kubuntu i using btw02:25
en1gmai think its a month old02:25
rawrnessI am not even sure what dev/mapper is XD02:25
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en1gmahow do i see if kubuntu sees mr raid0 array (WITH) the 2 partions02:25
Jucato_en1gma: you can check which version of kubuntu you are using by typing this in Konsole: lsb_release -a02:26
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elmore_could somebody please tell me the best and most popular free software equivalents for secondlife?02:26
en1gmaRelease:        6.0602:26
en1gmaCodename:       dapper02:26
en1gmait has drive mapper already i believe02:27
en1gmai might be using the 64bit kubuntu too i not sure02:27
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rawrnessI don't know to much but in the install i used the userdefined partion option and set it up like the 5th setup02:29
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rawrnessin this guide here http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partitioning.html02:29
gregen1gma: have you tried to mount /dev/mapper ?02:29
rawrnessso don't trust me i am noobish02:29
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en1gmaohh not yet02:30
en1gmalet me try...02:30
en1gma1sec02:30
en1gmado i need to 'su root' if so whats the pass02:30
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en1gmaubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount /dev/mapper02:31
en1gmamount: can't find /dev/mapper in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab02:31
en1gmai was following this guide kinda "http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2557.html"02:32
en1gmaubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls /dev/mapper/02:32
en1gmacontrol02:32
DeadSouLCan I divide the partition where kubuntu insalled into two without harming Kubuntu?02:33
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en1gmai believe it is supposed to show partitons there02:33
DeadSouLinstalled*02:33
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jj_yes02:33
jj_qtparted02:33
DeadSouLOk thanks a lot JJ_02:33
en1gmagreg where you go?02:33
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gregen1gma: try making a directory in /media, then mount -t ext3 /media/new directory02:34
jj_just a tip, run it from a live disk, preferably knoppix02:34
DeadSouLok02:34
en1gmaok gonna try 1 sec...what is pass for root with live dvd02:35
en1gmai cant make02:35
en1gmano permissions02:35
Jucato_en1gma: no password (blank)02:35
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bobbyyuDoes anyone know how to use Java under Kubuntu?02:36
en1gmaauthent failure02:36
rawrnessjava is evil......02:36
Jucato_en1gma: you are on the Live DVD?02:37
Jucato_!java02:37
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository02:37
Samuli^bobbyyu, what do you mean by using it?02:37
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bobbyyuI have a "The local variable XXX is not read" error02:37
bobbyyuI mean "The local variable XXX is never read" error02:38
en1gmajust made the pass trying commands now02:38
gregsudo mount /dev/mapper -t ext3 /media/new directory02:38
bobbyyuCan anyone help me?02:38
Jucato_en1gma: we don't use su in Kubuntu, btw. root account is disabled. we use "sudo"02:39
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en1gmai just used su02:39
jj_you can enable the root account and use su, you just better know what your doing..02:39
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en1gma[00:34]  <greg> en1gma: try making a directory in /media, then mount -t ext3 /media/new directory <<<<dont work02:41
en1gmatells me about usage02:41
gregsudo mount /dev/mapper -t ext3 /media/new directory02:41
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en1gmaroot@ubuntu://# mount /dev/mapper -t ext3 /media/test02:41
en1gmamount: /dev/mapper is not a block device02:41
bobbyyuWhere can I find Java help?02:41
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gregen1gma: sorry man I gave it a shot.02:42
en1gmathanks man02:42
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gregen1gma: the ony thing i can think of is to run dmseg and see if you can get a better /dev02:43
en1gmawant me to paste output to pastebin.ca02:44
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gregdon't know what that is or how to access it02:45
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en1gmahttp://pastebin.ca/17919002:46
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en1gmai dont know anything02:46
en1gmaand im brand new to kubuntu02:46
en1gmai used to run slack02:46
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en1gmaso im not real real nooBish02:46
hvhi02:46
en1gmahi02:47
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shawn_hi I'm trying to upgrade to edgy... and well thereis alot of unmet dependencies it's complaining about, reccomendations?02:47
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snaxmake sure you switched all your repository lines over to edgy02:48
snaxand do sudo aptitude dist-upgrade02:48
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Jucato_and be prepared for daily updates and some random broken from time to time02:49
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shawn_snax and then what?02:49
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snaxsay yes02:49
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Samuli^sudo sed -e 's/dapper/edgy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:50
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Samuli^but as you know that WILL break your system, probably.02:50
Dinkshawn_, just compile your own kernel and wait till edgy becomes stable ;)02:51
shawn_wants to remove all python stuff but it also wants to remove sysvinit... concern02:51
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snaxah, that's fine02:51
shawn_how's that fine02:51
snaxthere is a new startup package called upstart in edgy02:51
Jucatoshawn_: you are doing dist-upgrade right?02:51
shawn_yes02:51
snaxthat replaces the usual sysvinit stuff02:51
snaxit's backwards compatible though02:52
Jucatoshawn_: edgy will really replace a lot of stuff02:52
Jucatodist-upgrade removes stuff when necessary02:52
shawn_I've upadated to dapper a while back and ran that for a while in unstable02:52
snaxso, amarok didn't like writing the tags for flac files, so I enabled the backports repository and upgraded it, and now it won't play flac at all :(02:53
Samuli^unreleased dapper is not unreleased edgy though.02:53
shawn_is the update sever being really slow for everyone else (for edgy)?02:53
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Samuli^dapper was sort of minor updates compared to edgy which is supposed to be the 'testing' platform for all new and great.02:54
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shawn_yes I know02:54
Admiral_ChicagoSamuli^, dapper was a major update02:55
Jucatocompared to Edgy? maybe not that much02:55
Admiral_Chicagosnax, yea thats why you are super careful with backports02:55
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Admiral_Chicagotroy, what do you mean "will get'02:56
Jucatotroy: we'll know in a few weeks, I guess02:56
Admiral_Chicagoah i see02:56
Jucatoer make that months. lol... :)02:56
Admiral_Chicagothe only gripe i have (non Edgy) is that XGL is so bulky02:56
Admiral_Chicagotaking up all the processor02:56
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Samuli^not for me.02:57
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Samuli^30% if I'm spinning the cube as fast as I can. System-monitor posts ~0,2% load averages02:58
troyhaven't tried edgy yet - downloading knot3 now... I need to see how the amd64+32bit packages support is :)02:58
en1gmahow do i start konq as root02:59
troyen1gma: kdesu konqueror02:59
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en1gmaroot@ubuntu://# kdesu konqueror02:59
en1gmaXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server02:59
nimnrodi still don't have a clue how to install themes here... i donwload the files from http://www.kde-look.org but i have no idea how to make them work02:59
Admiral_ChicagoSamuli^, mine can go up to 10002:59
troyen1gma: weird - doesn't do that here...03:00
en1gmaim on live dvd03:00
gekko`troy: because he's logged in as root :-P03:00
shawn_do it in the run box03:00
Samuli^Admiral_Chicago, what processor do you have?03:00
Admiral_Chicagoen1gma, do that in "run command"03:00
shawn_en1gma03:00
Admiral_ChicagoA P4 3.0 Ghz Northwood with HT03:00
snaxif I disable the backport repos, is there an easy way to force downgrade all packages that came from it?03:00
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Admiral_Chicagosnax, not sure03:00
en1gmai cant run anythign03:01
en1gmait wont open03:01
shawn_hmm03:01
troyen1gma: what does 'echo $DISPLAY' say?03:01
en1gmai just closed it 1 sec03:01
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grouthow can i find out if i have x.org or xfree86?03:01
snaxare you running ubuntu?03:01
en1gmaopened new term and it working i think03:01
shawn_you probally have xorg03:01
snaxthen xorg03:02
Admiral_Chicagogrout, /etc/X1103:02
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grouttheres just a script in that dir03:03
groutwhat does that mean?03:03
Admiral_Chicagogrout, hold on03:03
troygrout: xdpyinfo | grep version03:03
nimnrodi still don't have a clue how to install themes here... i donwload the files from http://www.kde-look.org but i have no idea how to make them work03:04
bobbyyuI have a problem with Java with Kubuntu: It says "The local variable XXX is not read"03:04
bobbyyuwhen I try to compile something03:04
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Dinkprobably dont have jave jdk in your path03:04
troynimnrod: you're downloading tarballs (tar.gz, tgz, etc.) files from that site, right? You have to select those tarballs from the theme manager03:04
Dinkjava*03:04
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bobbyyuHow do I set it in Kubuntu?03:05
nimnrodi dont even know if i have a theme manager03:05
Dinkedit your .profile and set it03:05
bobbyyuWhere's that?03:05
Admiral_Chicagogrout, that folder has several icons03:05
nimnrod:-s03:05
troynimnrod: type 'ALT-F2', type 'kcontrol', select appearance and Themes, then Theme Manager03:06
en1gmamount -t <fs type> what i put for ntfs03:06
Dink/etc/profile03:06
en1gmaand for linux too cause i have 2 partions03:06
troynimnrod: then click Install New Theme, and select the file you downloaded03:06
snaxbobbyyu: it sounds like it is compiling ok but warning about an unused local variable in the actual Java code03:06
nimnrodtroy: thank you!03:06
troynimnrod: theme manager is hidden by kubuntu's control panel (which is different than kcontrol, the standard kde control panel)03:07
bobbyyuNo, all my variables are declared correctly03:07
bobbyyuI even tried it on my old programs03:07
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bobbyyuThey were compiling well before03:07
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snaxmaybe turn off warnings, then?03:07
snaxif it's warning about it there is really a problem in your code03:08
snaxotherwise you've found a bug in the compiler03:08
bobbyyuHow do I turn off the warning?03:08
snaxprobably javac -h will tell you03:09
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snaxso, how do you get KDE 3.5.4 in dapper as the topic suggests can be done03:09
Dinkyou probably have it already03:10
Dinkhelp about kde :p03:10
snax3.5.2 here03:10
JucatoDink: not unless he upgraded manually03:10
Dinkhmm i dont recall doing it manually might be my repository03:11
Samuli^snax, may I suggest google: kde 3.5.4 ubuntu03:11
Jucatosnax: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php03:11
Jucatoa word of caution, though. there are known bugs in KDE 3.5.4 on Dapper03:11
Samuli^Dink, well all you need to do manually is to update your sources.list.03:12
shawn_still getting03:12
shawn_ koffice-libs: Depends: koffice-data (< 1:1.5.1) but 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2 is installed03:12
shawn_  krita: Depends: koffice-libs (>= 1:1.5.2) but 1:1.5.0-0ubuntu9 is installed03:12
shawn_  libggi2: Depends: libgii1 (>= 1:1.0.1) but it is not installed03:12
shawn_  python2.4-twisted-core: Depends: python2.4-twisted-bin03:12
shawn_any ideas03:12
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Jucatoshawn_: you are using dist-upgrade right?03:12
shawn_I am03:13
Samuli^Jucato, and there is no known bugs on kde 3.5.2? :)03:13
JucatoSamuli^: there are of course. but comparing the 2, there are more annoying bugs in 3.5.403:13
snaxwhy on earth is it trying to pull in XMMS03:13
troyshawn_: I had to remove and reinstall koffice to get past a similar error03:14
Jucatosnax: something about Kopete depending on XMMS.03:14
shawn_I'm trying to get uninstall it03:14
troySamuli^: it's better tested on dapper anyway :)03:14
troySamuli^: 3.5.2, I mean, is better tested03:14
shawn_apt-get remove koffice is there anything else I can do to remove it?03:15
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Jucato3.5.2 was built for Dapper, 3.5.4 was built for Edgy. the 3.5.4 for Dapper is just a backport03:15
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troyshawn_: you might have to nuke some reverse dependancies as well, but apt will tell you what they are :)03:15
troyjust make a note so you can reinstall it later :)03:15
shawn_?03:15
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shawn_apt has not told me to get rid of repos03:16
Samuli^Jucato, 3.5.4 wasn't built for edgy. Doesn't it state that the repos stated on KDE-site are for _dapper_ ?03:16
JucatoSamuli^: 3.5.4 was built for Edgy because Edgy has it by default. why would they post repos for Edgy if it's already installed on Edgy?03:16
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troyJucato: it's not a backport03:17
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troyJucato: new kde releases are usually built for the current release also, independantly of what's happening in ubuntu+103:17
Jucatook, let me rephrase that: "backport"03:17
Samuli^jucato, I'm sure they've made another build for edgy, but those repositories that are for dapper are build for dapper.03:18
Samuli^Jucato, otherwise A LOT of dependencies would be broken.03:18
troythey're the same packages that would exist if edgy never existed :)03:18
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shawn_so no ideas how to fix my problem?03:21
Samuli^let me rephrase that *shrug* = *nod* ? :)03:21
snaxwhat are the major user-visible advantages that edgy has over dapper (at least as far as kubuntu goes)03:22
flaccid_edgy is new one?03:22
snaxyeah03:22
lupine_85generally snappier IMO :)03:23
Samuli^edgy is supposed to have compiz and xgl, right?03:23
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en1gmakubuntu/ubuntu does not support software raid upon fresh install (i dont believe)03:23
snaxno03:23
lupine_85sory of03:23
lupine_85sort*03:23
lupine_85they're in the repos03:23
en1gmathe live cd/dvd does not come with dmraid which is needed03:24
Samuli^they are in the dapper-repos too.03:24
en1gmaand the live dvd dont have a compiler03:24
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Jucatoen1gma: it should03:24
lupine_85bdsm pwns :D (well, it will be bdsm soon....)03:24
en1gmai tried to compile it wouldnt03:24
Jucatoit's included, but not installed03:24
Jucatoinstall "build-essential"03:25
en1gmathe compiler od dmraid03:25
lupine_85en1gma: just install dmraid03:25
lupine_85!dmraid03:25
ubotudmraid: Device-Mapper Software RAID support tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9+1.0.0.rc9-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 117 kB, installed size 460 kB03:25
en1gmawhere is it03:25
lupine_85ah, in universe03:25
lupine_85download the .deb and install from there?03:25
shawn_k how to I gey koffice off if apt-get remove won't work?03:25
shawn_*get03:25
lupine_85http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu03:25
Jucatoen1gma: build-essential is in main, if that was what you were asking03:25
en1gmaive never used kubunutu03:25
en1gmawell i was wanting that cause i thought i had to build dmraid03:26
en1gmaif i can just install dmraid that would be nice03:26
lupine_85it might work03:26
lupine_85TBH I think you'd be better off with the alt install CD03:26
lupine_85since it supports RAID/LVM out of the box, IIRC03:26
en1gmai have know idea where to start03:26
lupine_85!alternate03:26
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.03:26
en1gmai have the dvd03:27
lupine_85it's not on the DVD03:27
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en1gmaomfg03:27
en1gmacan i just dload the package and install it03:27
Samuli^en1gma, sure.03:27
en1gmai dont want whole cd just for 100KB apps03:27
en1gmawhat tool do i use03:27
Samuli^do you have working X?03:27
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en1gmayea i in x now03:27
shawn_damn03:28
rawrnesswow the room became dead again03:28
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flaccid_whats this knot business?03:29
lupine_85en1gma: you don't understand. The live CD installer doesn't support raid install03:29
lupine_85it's not pretty if you try to hack it yourself03:29
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JucatoI thought he was using the Live DVD?03:30
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Jucatooh well...03:30
Samuli^en1gma, sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the universe repository.03:30
lupine_85live cd==live dvd, surely?03:30
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Jucatoprobably the installer is the same? I wouldn't know...03:31
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Samuli^en1gma, then do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install dmraid03:31
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Samuli^thank you last.fm03:32
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soulriderhi everyone03:34
DFMhello03:34
Dink2.6.18 and ati 8.29.6 woot :)03:34
shawn_got the install going again03:35
shawn_woo03:35
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troydoes anyone know where cups keeps its installed ppds?03:38
ubuntuhey guys, i did an upgrade w/ adept...something screwed up. when i rebooted grub couldn't find the boot file system (it was looking for hd1,6 instead of hd0,6). i booted w/ the live cd and changed it to hd1,6 like it should have been. now it gets past grub to the kubuntu boot message "waiting for root filesystem" (i.e. after mounting)...what's the problem now?03:39
ubuntu^^^to hd0,6 like it should have been03:40
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Dinkyou can hit esc or something go back to previous kernel and try again ?03:41
ubuntuyeah, i tried kernel 26 (instead of 27) ...no dice either03:41
larson9999ubuntu: i don't know if this will help but my system hangs there sometimes.  the only way i've found to get past it is to unplug the power cord and plug it back in.03:42
ubuntuweird. worth a try next time i boot03:43
Dinkwhat type of hdd do you have ?03:43
Dinkide,sata03:43
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ubuntuhda is sata, hdb and hdc are ide03:44
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ubuntuthe boot partition is hda703:44
ubuntuit did work :D03:44
larson9999Ubugtu: yeah, it's probably something with my power management thing i could fix if i knew what to look for.  but since unplugging it works when it hangs there, i'm not looking hard for the fix.03:44
Dinkohh wait you did and upgrade ... hmm there is a known issue when you compile your own that it does not recognize sata and/or secondary hdd03:44
Zairecan anyone tell me where the linux kernel header is located?03:44
larson9999Ubugtu: that was for ubuntu03:45
crimsunZaire: after you install the linux-headers-$(uname -r) package, it's in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build03:45
ubuntularson9999 got it, tnx03:45
larson9999ubuntu: were you talking to me when you said it worked?03:45
Zairek thanks :)03:45
ubuntudink: i didn't compile my own in this case03:45
Dinkyea i just noticed it03:46
Dinkit probably is not discovering your sata drive03:46
ubuntularson9999: nope, that was to dink -- i will start adding names :)03:46
ubuntudink: doesn't the fact that grub makes it mean that it found the sata tho?03:46
flaccid_what is the minimise all windows action called in keyboard shortcuts?03:46
ubuntudink: i mean if it wasn't finding it it would get stuck at the grub stage, and not get the bootsplash up, right?03:46
flaccid_hmmm i can never find it03:47
ubuntudink: agh, i got it03:48
flaccid_ah toggle showing desktop03:48
Jucatoflaccid_: Ctrl+Alt+D03:48
ubuntudink: the menu.lst has a wrong command...03:48
ubunturoot=/dev/hdd7 instead of root=/dev/hda703:49
Dinkahh03:49
ubuntuseems like it should work when i reboot...tnx03:49
Dinksorry was responding to an email03:49
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ubuntunp, later03:49
Dinkthat would do it03:49
soulrider!info mdadm03:50
ubotumdadm: tool to administer Linux md device arrays (software RAID). In component main, is standard. Version 1.12.0-1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 103 kB, installed size 348 kB03:50
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troyokay - when I'm using cups on localhost:631, it's asking for an admin password -- what exactly is it wanting? my username and password again does not work, and root has no password...03:52
lupine_85troy: cupsys:cupsys ?03:53
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flaccid_yeah what is the default cups admin login ?03:54
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nimnrodquanta editor did something rare to my system... i unisntalled the program but when i click a link wont open konqueror but quanta03:55
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nimnrodit says: KDEInit could not launch quanta03:57
nimnrod:-/03:57
warpzonehey, with the lat Xorg update, has anybody else gotten a raging Xorg memory leak?03:57
warpzone*last03:58
Admiral_Chicagowarpzone, how long ago?03:59
warpzoneI"m not sure, maybe four of five days ago. Wasn't Xorg update recently?03:59
Admiral_Chicagoi have no idea, check out the change log04:00
warpzonesure, how would I do that?04:00
shawn_blah updating the fonts.... is there an eazy way to remove all non eglish fonts from my system04:00
Admiral_Chicagovisit the website, i'll probably be on there04:00
Admiral_Chicagoshawn_, no idea04:01
warpzonealrighty, thanks admiral, will check04:01
nimnrodquanta editor did something rare to my system... i unisntalled the program but when i click a link wont open konqueror but quanta04:01
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warpzonenimnrod: isn't what broswer opens determined by the program the link appears in?04:04
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nimnrodthe problem is that wont open the browser it will try to open quanta04:06
nimnrodand its a web link04:06
nimnrodim thinking that i need to restore the files association04:07
warpzonenimnrod: oh, I get it. I wouldn't have a clue how to do that./04:07
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Jucatonimnrod: try checking your File Associations for html or xhtml+xml04:08
jmichaelxhas there been a fix for the bad flash-plugin update from last night?04:08
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warpzonejmichaelx: bad flash-plugin update, what does it do?04:09
jmichaelxwarpzone: it just does nothing.... it downloads but cannot get configured04:09
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nimnrodJucato: yep.. that was it.. i did try that before but i didnt realize that i was as root and the change did not affect my normal user account04:10
Jucatonimnrod: ok. it's strange that installing Quanta change the File Associations. It didn't happen to me...04:11
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nimnrodit might be something i did i just don't remember what or when... hehehe04:12
Jucato:P04:14
rawrnessanyone know ay good   p2ps for kubuntu?04:15
Healotwhat p2p protocol?04:16
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rawrnesssuch as like winmx was before it got shutdown.04:16
abattoir!apollon04:17
ubotuapollon: KDE-based interface to the giFT file-sharing system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-2.2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 445 kB, installed size 1684 kB04:17
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shawn_mdadm, lvm-common and lvm2 don't wanna install right in my edgy upgrade... what do these do and any idea how to get them to install if need be04:17
rawrnesswinmx was the best.04:17
abattoirrawrness: ^^^that supports FastTrack(Kazaa), Gnutella(Limewire) and OpenFT, if you install the right plugins04:17
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rawrness?04:17
Jucatohuh? abattoir's alive???04:17
snaxI generally steer clear of p2p these days04:18
snaxdon't feel like getting sued04:18
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abattoirJucato: bleh :P04:18
rawrnesscan't sue us all.04:19
shawn_I asked right now because none of my browsers are working so I can't check myself04:19
snaxagreed04:19
snaxyou go first :P04:19
larson9999i don't steer clear of p2ps but i got all the music i wanted years ago :)  and my library has free dvds for the checkout04:20
rawrnessI just rip all my dvds.04:21
rawrnessI wonder how much of a penatity i would get if sued.04:22
rawrnessI am techincaly a minor.......04:22
snaxit would be your parents to get sued, then04:22
rawrnessFun.04:22
rawrnesswe can't afford to buy food XD04:22
rawrnesshalf the time.04:23
rawrnesswouldn't get much out sueing us.04:23
snaxyou'd be looking at $10,000 settlements or more depending on how much you were caught with04:23
rawrness8 gigs at the min.04:23
Jucatook moving along to more legal talk...04:24
rawrnessof course.04:24
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warpzonearg the xorg memory leak is killing me, xorg is up to 193m mem usage :( :( no solutions present in the forums04:24
rawrnessI wonder how many people installed the nonfree codecs04:24
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rawrnesseven if it may a legality,.04:25
Jucatoit's not a legal issue in some countries04:25
rawrnessI would think it so in the  us04:25
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Jucatowell that's their (US citizens) problem, unfortunately...04:26
Admiral_Chicagon00b question here, if I use GParted, that won't affect grub will it?04:27
jj_depends on what you do04:27
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: depends04:27
Admiral_Chicagoresize two partions04:27
jj_boot part?04:27
Admiral_Chicagoi'm on Edgy, all my data is on dapper04:28
Admiral_Chicagoi want to decrease dapper size, increase Edgy so I can transfer all my files04:28
jj_your fine04:28
Admiral_Chicagothanks04:28
rawrnessThe us sucks.04:29
jj_why might i ask?04:29
rawrnessI want a voucher education system04:29
rawrnesslike in norway.04:29
jj_why04:29
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rawrnessIt there for gives a choice in schools04:30
rawrnessrather being assigned by area code04:30
rawrnessThe american education system  has gone down hill.04:30
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warpzonehm, I know synaptic has a way to force a previous version of package. can adept do the same thing?04:31
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Jucatowarpzone: afaik, no04:31
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jj_seems like there should be though04:31
warpzoneJucato: :(04:31
Jucatolike I said, afaik. I hope I'm wrong...04:32
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[-KaSatKa-] How can i enter init 3?04:32
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Admiral_Chicago[-KaSatKa-] , dapper?04:33
[-KaSatKa-] Yes04:33
Admiral_Chicagorawrness, vouchers are so stupid04:33
Admiral_Chicagojoin me in #kubuntu-offtopic04:34
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c00i90wnHi theere, I'm following this guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186200 but when I reboot it fires up Xgl (at least I think so) and then it just waits and after that I get back to the loadscreen that appears when mounting root filesystem, etc but this time without any progress nor text, I don't get the usual login prompt (graphical) so I press ctra alt F1 and change ServerCmd back to the usual and everything works fine again, the ...04:37
rawrnessahh didn't know there was a offtopic04:37
c00i90wn... question is, why isn't working with the changed ServerCmd ?04:37
c00i90wnI'm using kubuntu dapper04:37
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rawrnessand now i reitre04:40
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JavierElectricoHi04:40
Admiral_Chicagoc00i90wn, #ubuntu-xgl04:41
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Jucatohm... are there "open source" fonts?04:42
flaccid_there is04:43
flaccid_a good site on it04:43
flaccid_heh can't remember it04:43
flaccid_!fonts04:43
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto04:43
ubotuNo fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer04:43
Jucatoheh04:43
flaccid_hmm04:43
Jucatono I don't want msttcorefonts :P04:43
warpzonearg need to restart X04:43
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Jucatosilly ubotu :)04:43
flaccid_i wish there was a way to search ubotu04:43
flaccid_search for *font*04:43
Jucatoheh04:43
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flaccid_do you want free or open fonts?04:44
Admiral_Chicagothat would be cool04:44
Jucatohm... either would be good...04:44
larson9999free and open04:44
Admiral_ChicagoF&O04:45
flaccid_you want to change an open font?04:45
larson9999they're all free 'cause them aint our credit cards'04:45
JucatoI'm actually looking for a particular kind of font...04:45
NameNomadhow do I install Flashplayer on Konqueror?04:45
NameNomadI've tried working through adept04:45
NameNomadthe command line04:45
NameNomadin the home folder04:45
flaccid_google returns a lot04:45
Jucatosomething like the font for old terminals/computers04:45
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flaccid_find out the font name and then search?04:46
josh_whats up people... quick question... what is the conf file i need to modify to allow the localhost to ftp to itself?04:46
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Jucatoflaccid_: the problem is finding the font name :P04:47
flaccid_hmm04:47
josh_anyone?04:48
JucatoI have an idea what it looks like, but I just don't know what it is called... oh well... time to Google04:48
flaccid_josh_: you mean you can't do ftp localhost?04:48
josh_nope04:48
flaccid_i'll just install proftpd04:48
josh_i already have that04:49
flaccid_but i don't!04:49
josh_ahh04:49
josh_ok04:49
josh_gotcha04:49
flaccid_you running standalone?04:49
josh_is it possible my router isn't letting that happen?04:49
josh_yes04:49
flaccid_it wouldn't go through your router if its localhost04:50
josh_i can access the ftp from outside the network04:50
flaccid_1sec i'll see if it allows localhost by default04:50
josh_well outside the network is incorrect... i can access it from every computer but mine04:50
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flaccid_incorrect?04:50
josh_yeah... its not just outsiders that can its all 5 computers inside the network also....04:51
josh_the computer running the server is the only one that cant log into itself04:51
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mark_2not so uncommon04:52
mark_2tho i dont know how to fix it :)04:52
josh_lol04:52
josh_well im sure there is some conf file that i dont know about that has it blocked for some reason...04:52
flaccid_josh_: on default install it allows localhost04:53
Jucatoflaccid_: found a font. http://desktoppub.about.com/library/fonts/dd/uc_digitek.htm (it's too thick, though)04:53
josh_hmm04:53
flaccid_could it be firewall?04:53
josh_well something has gone horribly wrong then...04:53
josh_i dont have a firewall set and i am dmzed04:53
flaccid_did you edit the proftpd conf at all?04:55
mark_2eww04:55
josh_yeah but only to set attribs for ftpusers and change the port number it listens for04:55
mark_2my cat is chewing and smelling an old unwashed sock04:55
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Jucatopoor cat04:55
NameNomadhow can I install flashplayer if my browser is Konqueror?04:56
mark_2she seems to like it >.>04:56
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NameNomadshould I even use Konqueror as my browser, or switch to mozilla?04:56
flaccid_josh_:  you changed port number?04:56
mark_2mozilla is better generally04:56
josh_yes04:56
Zaireanyone know how to get sound on realplayer?04:56
josh_my cable company is a bunghole and block 21 and 8004:57
JucatoNameNomad: download the flasphlugin-nonfree package. make sure the multiverse repository is enabled, and that dapper-backports is disabled04:57
josh_so i had to set ftp up on 7704:57
flaccid_Jucato: ah nice. but yes think04:57
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flaccid_josh_: what does this return sudo netstat -tap | grep ftp04:58
Zairecan you browse the net josh04:58
josh_tcp        0      0 *:rje                   *:*                     LISTEN     4417/proftpd: (acce04:58
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Zaireif you can browse the net then 80 isn't blocked cause if it were you couldn't04:58
DeadSouLhello all04:59
mark_2maybe the webpages are ghost webpages04:59
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mark_2like in that movie, pulse04:59
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flaccid_josh_: so ftp localhost 77 doesn't work?04:59
josh_ok they block 80 for incoming04:59
josh_nope04:59
Zairestill can anyone tell me how to get audio on realplayer05:00
ZaireIm trying to stream from ifilm.com and I get no audio05:00
mark_2have you tried 'aoss realplayer'?05:00
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flaccid_hmm how can i do a netstat -tap and see the actual port numbers they are listening on?05:00
mark_2i think i remember it uses oss05:00
flaccid_josh_: what does host localhost return?05:01
mark_2is it firefox embedded?05:01
mark_2zaire?05:01
josh_connection refused05:01
DeadSouLWhat was the name of p2p sharing program which starts with fire....?05:01
mark_2firewire?05:01
jj_lol05:01
josh_thats limewire05:01
flaccid_josh_: host localhost returns connection refused?05:01
josh_yeah lol05:01
Zairenot really I had to get an extension to grab the player05:01
josh_****ed up huh05:01
flaccid_josh_: what does ping localhost do?05:02
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DeadSouL:) No in Ubuntu help it syas that firewire is video capturing program05:02
josh_pings me05:02
flaccid_127.0.0.1 ?05:02
josh_same05:02
mark_2ok, so the player is launched by you, not inside an ifilm webpage?05:02
flaccid_josh_: pastebin your /etc/hosts file05:02
Zairenope it launchs outside05:03
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flaccid_!proftpd05:03
ubotuproftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.10-27ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 351 kB, installed size 1052 kB05:03
mark_2then install alsa-oss, and do aoss realplayer05:03
Zairebut I have no audio oddly enough05:03
josh_127.0.0.1 localhost Linux05:03
josh_thats the only line i modified... the rest is the mac addy and eth0 stuff05:03
josh_ipv6 stuff i mean05:04
flaccid_try doing 127.0.0.1 localhost05:04
flaccid_the new line 127.0.1.1 linux linux.domain.tld05:04
josh_times out05:04
flaccid_replacing domain.tld with your lan domain05:04
Zairethere is no aoss realplayer package05:05
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josh_i can ping linux and get a response, ping 127.0.0.1 and get response and ping localhost and get response05:05
flaccid_josh_: this is why you should change the hosts file05:05
josh_im not in a domain though05:06
flaccid_you should be05:06
josh_so no reason to add a domain name to my hosts file05:06
flaccid_make your own05:06
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MasterEvilAcesup ladies05:06
josh_this computer would be outside the domain anyway then...05:06
flaccid_josh_: this is the domain of your lan05:07
flaccid_josh_: also pastebin your proftpd.conf05:07
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josh_phone call bbiaf05:07
flaccid_bbiaf?05:07
josh_be back in a few05:08
flaccid_in a few ok05:08
flaccid_i'm going to have a shower05:08
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josh_lol05:08
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Jucato!games > Jucato05:32
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nonicknamecan anyone tell me what the device dm-0 is?05:41
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nonicknamedoes dm stand for disk manager?05:44
nonicknamecan you hear me now?05:44
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CraZy675I was wondering if anyone was aware of any software that would sync your id3 tags on your mp3 like musicbrainz does05:48
phlatushello05:49
CraZy675i guess this is not the most active time of this channel05:52
CraZy675at this time of day05:52
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jamadagnihello people05:53
jamadagnii am running dapper05:53
jamadagniand while compiling a program i get the errro:05:54
jamadagnichecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!05:54
jamadagninow i have installed xserver-xorg-dev and dependencies05:54
jamadagnistill i get this error05:54
jamadagniwhat to do?05:54
jamadagnithanks05:54
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flaccid_jamadagni: did you google the problem?05:55
flaccid_jamadagni: 1st result: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-23570.html05:57
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jamadagnisorry flaccid_, i should have done so. thanks05:59
flaccid_hehe np05:59
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flaccid_how to clear dns lookup cache?06:01
SillyZgevening06:02
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flaccid_how to export a layer in krita for .psd?06:05
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naihi, my old laptop has kubuntu.... now for some odd reason after entering a right password and user login it always goes back to the login screen the desktop wont launch06:12
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DeadSouLIs there a way to retrieve our Jabber account's password06:14
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Linux_Galorenai: press ctrl alt F1 then try login, if it doesnt work it means you have the wrong user name and password06:27
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momhi how come i my other accounts cant log in.... i have 4 accounts only this one is working,,, even the first accoutn wont login ....im using the correct user and password for sure. but when i hit log in button it comes back to the login screen without any warnings or what soever06:34
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DeadSouLmom you have to use small characters for screenname06:36
DeadSouLnot capitals06:37
Dr_WillisOr theres some major kde config screwup.06:37
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momyes they are in small06:37
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momok i go switch06:38
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momcant switch06:40
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momis there a way to find outwhats the problem06:40
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Linux_Galoremom: dare say you trying to use the wrong password for that account06:44
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momits impossible forme to be qrong because i set it up my self and i tried it so many times different accounts,,,,i really feel something is wrong.06:45
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Linux_Galoremom: I admin over 300 Linux machines, amazing all the password work06:47
Linux_Galoremom: just change the "users" password from you main account06:47
Linux_Galoremom: you can do it under kcontrol06:47
Linux_Galoremom: then try login again06:48
momhmmm...how come only this account works... is there a way to check if they are working because im new but i know i keyed in the right user and password for all 3 accounts that are not working06:48
momthats the prob.... my main account wont login too...06:48
Linux_Galoremom: theres a utility in kcontrol to manage the user accounts06:48
Linux_Galoremom: well it could be a bad hardisk06:49
momkuser? i go try06:49
momwait about bad hard disk how do i know;.... that could be som ehting cause this is an old laptop....  i guess that could be06:49
momi cant login kuser it wont accept my root password;...06:50
Linux_Galoremom: could be sector corruptions causing the passwords hash's to fail06:50
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momso if htats the prob what can i do/ or is there a solution or goodbye/06:50
Healotif the shadow fail is corrupted...06:50
Linux_Galoremom: just type sudo passwd06:51
momi got in the terminal but  in kuser it wont go in06:51
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momerror opening /etc/shadow for reading...i tried launching kuser from terminal06:52
Lynouresudo kuser ?06:53
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Healotkdesu06:53
momlocales n ot supported by x06:54
momthen nothing happens06:54
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LynoureHealot: thank you, I'm daft after just waking up06:54
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momhow do i determine if my hdis the problem06:55
ubuntuHi, after completing kubuntu install at reboot I got this error while logging in: " Could not start kstartupconfig. Check your install" Not a nice start for first time kubuntu use. Any Idea? Do I have to reinstall it again?06:55
Linux_Galoreubuntu it does nothing06:56
Linux_GaloreLinux_Galore: can you get to the desktop06:56
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ubuntuLinux_Galoreo, So what do I have to do?06:57
Linux_Galoreubuntu can you get to your desktop06:57
ubuntuI am currently booted with kubuntu livecd06:57
ubuntuSo, I can mount if you wish06:57
Linux_Galoreubuntu /me smacks head on wall06:58
Linux_Galorecan "you" get to your desktop . simple yes or no06:58
ubuntuyes06:58
momok i go check06:58
Linux_Galoreubuntuok then there is no real issue all thats happening is the setup script isnt working, to be honest it doesnt nothing but annoy you06:59
ubuntuLinux_Galore No I am not able to do Anything with what I have installed. As I said, I have booted with livecd. This is what I said and you did ask me the same question again06:59
ubuntuLinux_Galore No I am not able to get to my desktop06:59
ubuntuLinux_Galore No I am not able to do anything with what I installed07:00
Linux_Galoreubuntu so you "booting" from a live CD and you havent done an install ??07:00
Linux_Galoreubuntu so the answer is "no"07:00
ubuntuI am booting from live cd because the install i have done fails!07:00
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Linux_Galoreubuntu so you boot up from the hardisk and what do you see07:00
ubuntuand yes, I have done an install, as previously stated, and when trying to login I get the above error and it kicks me back to locgin screen07:00
Linux_Galoreubuntu also what version of kubuntu are you using07:01
ubuntuLinux_Galore I boot up from hd and get all the way to kde login succesfully07:01
ubuntulatest one. 6.06.107:01
Linux_Galoreubuntu ok that basically means Linux is working fine the desktop login is having issues07:01
ubuntuwhen I put my user ID and passwd then I get that error and return back to same logon screen07:02
ubuntuprobably07:02
Linux_Galoreubuntu that basically means you have the wrong user and password07:02
ubuntuassuming so (which I doubt as typed my data at install time) what to do?07:02
Linux_Galoreubuntu you need to reset the password manually07:03
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ubuntufrom where? live cd or boot from hd?07:03
Linux_Galoreubuntu if you swap to a terminal with ctrl alt f1 and try to login does it fail07:03
ubuntuno it does not fail. Contrary, I am succesfully able to log on07:04
Linux_Galoreubuntu ok that tells me there is a problem with kde07:04
Linux_Galoreubuntu login in a terminal type rm -rf .kde07:04
Linux_Galoreubuntu then type halt07:05
ubuntuin a terminal from live cd, right?07:05
Linux_Galoreubuntu I I want you to do anything on the live CD I will say "go and use the live cd"07:05
ubuntuso I have to reboot as am using the same pc now07:06
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ubuntuand will loose connection07:06
Linux_Galoreubuntu boot up of the hardisk and press ctrl alt F107:06
Linux_Galoreubuntu then login07:06
ubuntuwith my user ID07:06
feetyes07:06
Linux_Galoreyes07:07
ubuntuthen will type rm -rf .kde and then halt07:07
ubuntuthen what next?07:07
Linux_Galoreubuntu reboot it should work07:07
feetsudo reboot :-)07:07
ubuntuthank you07:07
ubuntucorrect07:07
ubuntubye07:07
ubuntuor init 607:07
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feetlol07:07
feeti was going to ask something and now i forgot.. oh yeah!07:08
Linux_Galoreits amazing I did a pile of kubuntu install last month I only had issues with X07:08
feetwhen i go to do anything with apt-get, it says something about "The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer needed blah blah blah"... and lists nearly all the packages mentioned in kubuntu-desktop... whats up with that?07:08
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Linux_Galorefeet: depends what your trying to install07:09
Linux_Galoreor have installed07:10
feetanything07:10
feetanything at all07:10
feetoh could be what i have installed too07:10
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feetor dont have07:10
Linux_Galorefeet: tells me you have installed another working graphical enviroment for some weird reason and the base kubuntu-desktop has been deprecated07:10
feeti dont have anything but KDE07:11
feetnote:i dont have kubuntu-desktop, would it complain because of this?07:11
Linux_Galorefeet: look in package manager and search for kde  bet you have two version of kde installed07:12
feetoh07:12
Linux_Galorefeet: just remove the old one07:12
feetand how do i do that07:12
feetO_o07:12
Linux_Galorein the package manager07:12
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feetokay, just a tick, opening synaptic07:13
feetget rid of kdebase, you think??07:13
Linux_Galorefeet: yeah look at the version number get rid of the one with the lower version07:14
feetoh07:14
feethmm07:14
Linux_Galorefeet:  or just search for kubuntu07:14
feettheres kdebase and kde4base...07:14
feeti dont remember getting kde4base=\07:15
Linux_Galorefeet: so you tried to update to kde 4 lol, you know its not finnished07:15
feetno07:15
feeti didnt07:15
feet=\07:15
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Linux_Galorewell thats why it has "BETA" written all over it07:15
feetover what?07:16
Jucatomaybe you added a repository from Kubuntu.org07:16
feetwell im not the only one who uses this computer so its very likely someone else did07:16
Linux_GaloreI suepect he/she has added the kde 4 repo on the home page07:16
Linux_Galorenot a wise move of you not a developer07:16
JucatoIf this page looks familiar to you: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.1.php then you probably added the KDE 4 repo by mistake07:16
feetnope07:17
feetuhh... well okay, now we can see what is wrong07:17
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feetwhat can i do now?07:17
Linux_Galorefeet: remove the kde4 stuff07:18
feetit says to meet dependencies, it would remove just about everything in kubuntu-desktop =\07:18
feetoh no, wait i know how to do this07:18
feetgood ol' export07:18
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Jucatoooh net split!!!07:24
feetsecret maryo chronicles for one (we have a lot of games lol)07:24
feetwow big net split07:24
Jucatoheh yeah07:24
unix_infidelis archive.ubuntu.org slow for anyone else?07:25
Jucatoit will be slow/fast to some people depending on their internet connection and locale07:25
feetit would be slow, with everyone racing around getting edgy and being the main mirror..07:25
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unix_infidelJucato: i'm usually at 150K in the southern united states.07:26
unix_infidelits REALLY slow, at about 2K/s07:27
Jucatoafaik, archive.ubuntu.com is in UK?07:27
feetsomewhere in europe yeh07:27
feetwhy not use us.archive.ubuntu.org ??07:27
unix_infidelfeet: b/c that's usually slower.07:28
unix_infidelfor me anyway.07:29
feetoh07:29
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user___Linux_Galore: I am back. I was able to enter in kubuntu07:47
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user___Linux_Galore: the user home directory was not even being created. So, I had to re-create it manually by using useradd07:48
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user___the strange thing, ( I was hopeing to switch from one distro to this and I already have an issue :-(, is that in accessing setup data, like users and groups after I login as administrator I am not able to see the users but rather I get this error: "Impossible to load  the module  Users & Groups Why is this?07:50
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user___Anybody can help me with the above question please?07:51
osirissounds like a botched install07:51
Linux_Galoreuser__ fast way is install it again07:51
Linux_Galoreyeah sounds like something is seriously broken07:51
user___install kubuntu entirely?07:51
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Linux_Galoreuser__ yep07:52
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osirisis this a kubuntu 64 install or something07:52
user___yes07:52
osirisinstall the 3207:52
osirismost 64 bit distro's are quite buggy07:52
osirisim sure i'll have 50 people tell me they run it with no issues, and im sure they do.  but from what i have seen, 64 bit is a lot more touch and go, than 3207:54
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user___I do not know07:57
LynoureArrenLex: a netsplit07:57
user___ok07:57
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user___bye, I will install it again07:57
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aquabluim using 6.06LTS drapper on a toshiba lappie07:57
harleypig!sound07:57
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin07:57
Jucatothe return of the netsplitters07:57
ArrenLexaquablu: they're not available from the ubuntu repositories AFAIK.07:57
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harleypig!card107:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about card1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:57
ArrenLexDownload them from the mplayer web site.07:57
aquabluok Arren07:57
harleypig!card007:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about card0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:57
harleypigshit07:58
aquabluthen just put them in correct dir, what would be the path to put them in, if i do it manually07:58
harleypigAnyone point me to how to make alsa use card1 instaed of card0?07:58
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aquabluis it /usr/libwin3207:58
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user___and what would I loose or gain if instead of installing kubuntu64 I install kubuntu32 considering I run amd64 CPU?07:59
osirisstability07:59
osirismore ported apps07:59
user___and what would I loose?08:00
ArrenLexUser: to be frank, nothing. You will not notice the speed-up. You might notice the binaries got a little bigger because of long pointers. What you'll lose is the ability to run many applications. Like flash.08:00
ArrenLexIf you have lots of memory, like 4GB+, 64-bit allows you to access all of that. That's a big difference.08:00
aquablu You will need to go download one of the08:00
aquabluarchives:08:00
aquablu    j2sdk-1_4_2-doc.zip j2sdk-1_4_0-doc-ja.zip j2sdk-1_4_2-doc-ja.zip08:00
aquablu(choose the non-update version if this is the first installation).08:00
aquabluPlease vis08:00
aquabludam whats that mean08:00
osiris!pastebin > aquablu08:01
user___so, your advice is to download 32 bit iso and install kubuntu. correct?08:01
osirisyes08:01
user___ah, bty: what if I do not find an application I wish to install (ex. audacity)?08:01
Jucato!audacity08:01
ubotuaudacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1842 kB, installed size 5460 kB08:01
osiristhen you might need to add some package repo's to get them08:01
osiristhere are how-to's out there for that stuff08:02
user___and how to do so? I recall I have to modify adept to add more repository sites? is this correct?08:02
osiris!repos08:02
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:02
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user___I see08:03
user___I will be doing some reading and will ask later on08:03
user___let me download 32 bit as you adviced me to do and will install kubuntu again08:04
user___so this is what I must download: kubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso08:04
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aquabluwhats the directory to put the win32 codecs in?08:04
osiristhat, or the liveCD version08:04
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user___and what is this  kubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso  ?08:05
osiristhe live version08:05
user___do Ihave to install alternative or desktop?08:05
user___I am looking at this site: http://na.mirror.garr.it/mirrors/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/6.06.1/ where is livecd?08:05
osiriseither should work.  alternate is for older/lower spec. machines08:05
user___osiris: you are saying live cd where do I get it?08:05
Jucato!w32codecs > aquablu08:05
osirishttp://na.mirror.garr.it/mirrors/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/6.06.1/kubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso08:06
osiristhats the live cd.  it lets you run kubuntu from ram, and install it whle the desktop is up08:06
user___so it is desktop for i386 same as this one then: kubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso08:07
mjcarwhere would I find out when the samba package is going to be upgraded in ubuntu (from 3.0.22 to 3.0.23c) ?08:07
osirisyes08:07
user___thks08:08
osirismjcar, maybee in #samba ?08:08
user___it is downloading it now08:08
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mjcarubuntu packaging ?08:08
mjcarin samba ?08:08
lsprocKDE Print is refusing to see my shared HP DeskJet 960c printer over the network. It sees every other printer, except that one, the one I need08:08
mjcardoubt it...08:08
lsprocThis is over Samba08:09
mjcar3.0.23c is relased for samba already08:09
mjcarjust wondering when ubuntu woudl adopt it and package it08:09
krautmoin08:09
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user___ubotu: I need to ask another question on repository, please. I am reading the doc which says to enable Universe and "Multiverse repositories"The first step on this page is to locate deb and deb-src. I see them both repeated with dapper and dapper-updates and dapper-security All have "main restricted" setting. Now, is this doc saying to add to all of them " multiverse "  leaving also main restricted?08:19
Jucatouser___: you are talking to a bot08:19
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aquabluyeh so hard to get anything working on kubuntu, nothing like slackware of ease of use08:20
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user___:-) I see now08:20
user___well my question still remain valid08:21
user___Is what I said before correct?08:21
user___Jucato: sometimes it is nice to talk to robots, right ;-)08:21
Jucatoyou don't need to add "multiverse" to those lines with "main restricted" but to those lines with "universe"08:21
Jucatoremember, just add "multiverse", do not replace universe or anything08:22
user___Jucato: I see. So, I must live those alone. I see other grayed out lines deb and deb-src with universe08:22
feetprobably not yet activated08:23
feetbrb08:23
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user___I ativated them now.08:23
Jucatothe line you might be interested in would be something like "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe"08:23
user___To this I should add multiverse08:23
Jucatoadd "multiverse" to that line08:23
user___I add, meaning I also mive universe08:24
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Jucatouser___: no08:24
naliothuser___: did you find your answers?08:24
user___yes I did08:24
Jucatoadd, meaning it will become something like "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse"08:25
aquabluim think a fdisk might be in order to this distro08:25
user___I am just puzzled: do I live as componet universe and multiverse or just "multiverse" and remove universe?08:25
user___the kubuntu doc says " Double click the universe text so that you get an edit box and beside universe type multiverse and hit Enter and do the same for the other line as well" as I did08:26
Jucatouser___: I said add "multiverse", meaning you add multiverse to the line with universe, like in the example I typed08:26
user___sure08:26
Jucatoleave universe alone08:26
feetdont get rid of anything08:26
user___done as you said08:26
Jucatoyou add multiverse, meaning type the word "multiverse" beside the word "universe"08:26
user___Now, is this the only repository to add?08:27
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Jucatobasically, yes. unless you want to install Opera08:27
feetor Real08:27
Jucatobleh :P08:28
feethehe08:28
user___is there a website with all repository available for kubuntu with descriptions08:28
feetthe packages site, i suppose08:28
Jucatouser___: those are it. at least the official Ubuntu repos08:28
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user___ok, thks for now08:28
user___i gotit08:28
user___:-)08:28
feet:D08:29
user___do I have to use adept or can i also use add/remove programs from k menu ? One looks different than the other08:30
feetthey are both adept, in essence08:30
feetthe add remove programs is just a simplified version that shows way less items08:30
JucatoAdd/Remove Programs (Adept Installer) is a simplified version08:30
Jucato:P08:31
Jucatoshows less items, and less options08:31
feetyou might use use adept package manager to get some obscure things like libraries and things08:31
user___sure08:31
Jucatoor repositories, or... hm....08:31
feetyeah and the other apt stuff08:31
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user___when downloaded the iso file which was automatically done where did it save it?08:32
jewels9321i need some help finding the package to download for burning wav files.... i've looked around and am not finding anything08:32
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feetdid you download it while using linux, or perhaps windows, user__ ??08:33
user___no, using konqueror08:33
feetoh08:33
feethome folder probably08:33
user___not there08:33
jewels9321does anyone know the name of the package off the top of their head?08:33
feetdesktop?08:33
JucatoDesktop?08:34
feeti wasnt aware wavs could be burned to cd lol08:34
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JucatoI wasn't aware that they couldn't08:34
|lostbyte|user__, find ~/ | grep *.iso08:34
Jucatoah... the art of using find...08:35
jewels9321i am pretty sure that they can08:35
feetalways fun08:35
|lostbyte|:)08:35
user___never mind. I am downloading it again08:35
Linux_Galoreyou can burn just about any data file to a cd08:35
feetO_o08:35
feetoh08:35
feetas a DATA file?08:35
Linux_Galoreyes08:35
user___is it possible then when my system is up and running to recompile the kernel removing unecesary stuff?08:36
feetthen burning it as a data cd would work08:36
|lostbyte|user__, so you used the open option by mistake.08:36
Jucatounless jewels9321 was trying to burn them as an audio cd?08:36
Linux_Galorefeet: yep08:36
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feetas an audio cd... hmm08:36
jewels9321jucato: yes i am trying to burn as an audio cd08:36
user___|lostbyte| perhaps08:36
feeti would convert them into mp3s myself08:36
|lostbyte|user__, yes08:36
Jucatoerr ok that's different...08:36
feetyou could always try soundkonverter08:37
aquabluhow do i use dpkg, i have just wget the codecs08:37
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_markhello!08:37
feetsudo dpkg -i package.deb08:37
Jucatoaquablu: "sudo dpkg -i <.deb name>:"08:37
aquabluk08:37
feetthere you go aquablu08:37
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aquabluthnx08:37
feetalso, you can right click the package within konqueror to bring up an installer menu08:37
feethello mark08:38
user___is it possible to recompile the kernel kubuntu installed by default (generic) to optimize it and remove un-necesary stuff?08:38
feetindeed it is08:38
aquabluok08:38
Linux_Galorefeet you can use k3b to burn audio cd's made from wav files08:38
user___is it difficult? Any doc on this08:38
oliapt-get install libk3b2-mp3 <-- tu burn audio cd from mp3 files :)08:38
feetwell has jewels9321 tried that?08:38
_markhihi feet08:38
_markim a suse user again ; ;08:38
feetwe need em from wavs... know anything there oli?08:39
jewels9321Linux_Galore: k3b just tells me that it is unsupported format, so i need wav file support08:39
Linux_Galoreoli: ooh yeah forgot about that08:39
feetheh08:39
|lostbyte|!kernel08:39
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild08:39
feetwell i would convert em to mp3 anyway08:39
|lostbyte|user__, ^^08:39
Linux_Galorejewels9321: I have k3b 1.0 installed08:39
aquabluim actually root in the shell so i wouldnt have to use sudo?08:40
oliyea08:40
feetno need for sudo08:40
Linux_Galoreaquablu: no you dont have to use sudo if root08:40
aquabluok thnx08:40
|lostbyte|feet, use sudo, and su if really nessary.08:40
Linux_Galoreaquablu: just be carefull with things like rm -rf08:41
feetwhy are you telling me that |lostbyte|08:41
aquabludam im sitting on my laptop watchng t.v and guess whos on "rydge from that bold and beautiful"08:41
aquablugee hes wooden08:41
jewels9321Linux_Galore: really? That's nice. I did try wav2cdr but it doesn't seem to make it work08:41
_markugh08:41
user___ok, last question for now (I asked kernel compile because with gentoo I used not to implement generic kernel but just what what was necessary) What if i wish to install unstable-testing packages that are not marked stable? Would adept also provide those packages?08:41
|lostbyte|one beacuse of what Linux_Galore said.08:41
_markanyone know how to build a custom kernel in suse?08:42
aquabluwhat does rm -rf do?08:42
_markkills stuff08:42
_markdo rm -rf /08:42
aquabluok08:42
|lostbyte|feet, the main goal of the sudo is to do various task with minimal permitions.08:42
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Linux_Galoreaquablu: removes stuff permanently08:42
aquabluoh gee08:42
_markya you shouldnt do rm -rf /08:43
Linux_Galorerm -rf /   basically kills you install08:43
_markit nukes your linux08:43
aquabluwow08:43
unix_infidelor ask about building kernels for another distro in #Kubuntu08:43
user___anyone with my package question please?08:43
unix_infidelanother bad idea.08:43
motorcitymadmani installed flash player to firefox before i installed gsfonts,gsfonts-x11. the flash player is not working.installing player before gsfonts cause this problem ?08:43
_marksorry unix infidel, but the suse channel is really dead08:43
jpiccolo_anyone know where the xorg like thing is for fluxbox?08:44
Linux_Galoremotorcitymadman:  dont install the gnu flash player its total rubbish08:44
_marki would stay with kubuntu but something in the packages keeps freezing my computer08:44
motorcitymadmanLinux_Galore: is there a nother ?08:44
_markmaybe when edgy is released08:44
user___got to go now.08:44
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Linux_Galoremotorcitymadman: yes the "official" one on the macromedia.com page08:45
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|lostbyte|motorcitymadman, download the flash plugin and place them in the plugin folder.08:45
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|lostbyte|weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!08:45
Linux_Galoreheh heh08:45
user___any change someone can reply to this question: I have few minutes left: What if i wish to install unstable-testing packages that are not marked stable? Would adept also provide those packages?08:45
feetanother netsplit08:45
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feetnetsplits are fun :D especially on these huge networks08:46
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feetuser__: those would be in the edgy repositories08:46
Linux_Galoreuser__ if you add the repository to adept all the packages there are available for install08:46
_markgah08:46
motorcitymadman|lostbyte|: that wood be /usr/lib/firefox ?08:46
user___Linux_Galore this mean that there sould be a repository for testing packags, right?08:46
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Linux_Galoreuser__ yeah edgy08:47
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feetthe edgy release is our version of unstable/testing08:47
user___thks08:47
feetdapper is currently our version of stable08:47
feetedgy will be the new 'stable' next month08:47
user___bye all (I wish you all a great day) :-)08:47
|lostbyte|motorcitymadman, /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/, your right.08:47
feetbye bye user :D08:47
feethappy kubuntu-ing08:47
Linux_Galoreuser__ just change all the repositories from dapper to edgy and you have access to all the new unstable stuff08:48
user___greatr08:48
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_marklinux galore08:48
Linux_Galoreuser__ I wouldnt though its a great way to nuke your install08:48
camHey all I need to change my permissions I'm trying to overwrite my firefox "profile" to restore them from a back up rom my Pc...08:48
_markdo you have any idea if theres been a bug reported with the 686 smp kernels?08:48
CroXI'm having problem with my system freezing on me every now and then, especially when working with alot of applications at the same time. Anyone care to help me out?08:49
_markor a software package reacting badly to them08:49
user___all of them  or just the one where I added multiverse?08:49
feetdescribe what happens, CroX08:49
feetall of them08:49
feetevery single one, user08:49
Linux_Galoreuser__ the whole lot08:49
feetmixing dapper with edgy is dangerous08:49
feetactually, using edgy is still a bit dangerous lol08:49
camcan someone please help  me?08:49
feetsure cam08:50
Linux_Galoreyeah I still cant get edgy to install (node 3)08:50
Linux_Galorekeeps stuffing up on X08:50
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CroXfeet: It just freezes. Nothing happens, cursor wont move, commands (ctrl+alt+del, ctrl+shift+backspace) doesn't go through. Frozen.08:50
user___is it possible I just installed xchat and do not see any icon in k menu?08:50
cam I need to change my permissions I'm trying to overwrite my firefox "profile" to restore them from a back up rom my Pc...08:50
feetit takes a wee bit to update user, yes08:50
CroXfeet: At first I thought it was the gfx card not having drivers, so I updated to current ati ones. But still it freezes.08:50
camwhen I try it says I can't I assume it's permissions...08:51
|lostbyte|cam, rom ?08:51
feetyour firefox profile? now i would think thats stored in ~/.firefox08:51
aquabluok the problem i have no wi have all these movie players installed ,is that the movie wants to play then flashes away, thats any movie i go to watch08:51
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user___so what to do to get it updated?08:51
Jucatouser___: type this command in Konsole "kbuildsycoca --incremental" and ignore error messages. then check your K Menu again08:51
aquablux11 or something08:51
vega-is there some ubuntu-gnome metapackage that allows for easy removal of all gnome* stuff from kubuntu?08:51
camI can see it it just won;t allow me to overwrite08:51
vega-so it would be just like kubuntu installed from scratch08:51
feettry using sudo08:51
feetor su08:51
Linux_Galoreyeah the user profile for firefox is installed under ~/.mozilla/firefox08:51
user___yea it worked08:51
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feetnine times out of ten, if you cant do it, root can08:51
user___is there a way to get this fixed for kubuntu users?08:52
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camI want to transfer my bookmarks from my pc to kubuntu,08:52
CroXfeet: Any idea on what can be causing this?08:52
feetwell what programs do you regularly use08:52
Jucatovega-: none, but you can try this guide: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde08:52
Linux_Galoreuser__ fix what ?08:52
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|lostbyte|Linux_Galore, and /etc/firefox/profile/ ?08:52
Linux_Galore|lostbyte|: that just for the startup08:52
camdo I have to change permissions?08:52
feetno08:52
cam?08:53
feetwell you can08:53
feetthat would be easier08:53
user___I used kbuildsycoca --incremental to update k menu Rathr after a package is installed it should appear the icon immediately in k menu08:53
|lostbyte|k :)08:53
CroXfeet: KFTPGrabber, Navicat, Firefox, Thunderbird, Konversation, Amarok, Gaim, Kate08:53
vega-Jucato: ok thanks08:53
camthen how come it won't simply overwrite the profile with a newer one?08:53
Jucatouser___: only for the times that they don't appear in the menu. but most of the times, they do08:53
feetbut you could also use sudo or su to remove the offending files and as a normal user replace them with your own08:53
CroXfeet: Often when I open a tenth/eleventh tab in firefox, with alo of other apps open, it freezes. Overload sorta.08:53
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user___I see now.08:53
cam?08:54
user___thks Jucato08:54
user___good day guys08:54
aquabluok i can watch normal downloaded mpgs but when i put DVD in08:54
aquabluits the dvd's08:54
|lostbyte|CroX, whats the last thing you did, before this happed ?08:54
feetokay, what file are you trying to get rid of cam??08:54
feetor overwrite08:54
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aquablui did mplayer dvd://08:54
aquabluwanted to play then errored X1108:55
feetprobably dont have the dvd descrambling software08:55
aquabluoh08:55
camI saved my firefox profile from my pc, I just want to use it on kubuntu08:55
CroX|lostbyte|: Installed ati drivers. They messed up, so I took back the old xorg.conf and redid the process08:55
|lostbyte|cam,  firefox -ProfileManager08:55
feetyea08:55
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camso I tried to overwrite the profile in kubunntu with the one from my pc and I'm not allowed08:55
camwhere is it?08:56
camI checked options....08:56
campreferences08:56
|lostbyte|CroX, you  dont have to do that. only need to replace the diver option.08:56
feettype firefox -ProfileManager in a konsole window08:56
camwill do08:56
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CroX|lostbyte|: Good to know. Well, the gfx card works now. But I still get my system frozen every now and then.08:56
aquablufeet>do you no the name of thescrambling software08:56
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feetyes08:57
aquabluok08:57
camGtk-WARNING **: cannot open display08:57
feethttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:57
cam:(08:57
|lostbyte|CroX, glxinfo | grep direct08:57
camsadly it didn;t work08:58
feetoh08:58
camdidn't work...08:58
CroX|lostbyte|: direct rendering: Yes08:58
feetoh here we go08:58
feetcam, let ask you something so i know im in the right place08:58
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camok08:58
feetwhat does a firefox profile look like, its a folder right?08:58
camyes08:59
|lostbyte|CroX, Does it wait before it crashes, or on  a spcific app. ?08:59
cama folder08:59
feeteasy08:59
feetopen konqueror08:59
camthis should be easy/08:59
feetclick view, then show hidden files08:59
camit's open08:59
feetopen the folder mozilla08:59
feetopen the folder firefox08:59
feetpaste the folder in08:59
CroX|lostbyte|: Now it's crashed on four occasions. Two times when I've hovered the cursor over a menu and an app in the taskbar, just before it's about to render a submenu or the popupdescription. The two other times has been when I've opened a tenth/eleventh tab in firefox or when firefox is just about to render a new website.09:00
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GhostwolfHi09:00
camacess denied09:01
GhostwolfCan kubuntu install non-destructively on the free space on a RAID 0 setup?09:01
feetaccess denied in your own folder? wow09:01
|lostbyte|CroX, free -m ?09:01
CroX|lostbyte|: Want me to run that cmd? Or do you ask for my RAM?09:01
camwhe I look to the left of Konqueror it say User:root Group :root09:01
feetoh09:02
|lostbyte|CroX, run that.09:02
feetsimple09:02
camI'm stummped09:02
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CroX|lostbyte|: Eep! Says here that I only have a total of 876 and using 77209:02
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CroX|lostbyte|: I'm supposed to have 1024!09:03
CroX|lostbyte|: And what on earth can suck that much memory?09:03
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unix_infidelhey guys, i keep on getting an error that the deps i need "are not installable"09:03
unix_infidelany ideas?09:04
|lostbyte|CroX, could you paste last three lines and 4 colums.09:04
CroX|lostbyte|: Working on it. It's free -m | ~/dump.txt right?09:04
|lostbyte|unix_infidel, which are ?09:04
unix_infidel|lostbyte|: when i'm messing with imlibn09:05
|lostbyte|CroX, Your in console ?09:05
CroX             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached09:06
CroXMem:           876        776        100          0         84        40509:06
CroX-/+ buffers/cache:        287        58909:06
CroXSwap:         2565          0       256509:06
CroX|lostbyte|: Nope, just getting used to the commands.09:06
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motorcitymadman|lostbyte|: the flash player wood only install in the /usr/lib/firefox i could not get the player in the plugins folder (not a vilid dir)09:06
feetcam, did you get any pm from me?09:07
|lostbyte|CroX, ok, your memory is not crashing your system. for sure.09:07
CroX|lostbyte|: But I'm still missing some :(09:07
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|lostbyte|motorcitymadman, that dir exsists.09:07
motorcitymadmani know09:07
|lostbyte|just sudo cp to it.09:07
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camyeah09:08
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CroX|lostbyte|: Any other ideas on what could be crashing?09:08
bioticproAnybody know how to make Firefox look as good as Konq (web site font wise)?09:08
motorcitymadman<-is of to leard sudo cd to it09:08
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camit says I can't pm, do you see my replies?09:08
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feetnope09:08
feetthats ok09:08
|lostbyte|CroX, Do one thig..09:09
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feetdid you try it?09:09
CroX|lostbyte|: Yeah?09:09
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|lostbyte|CroX, the next time the system crashes, note down the system time. reboot and check /var/log/syslog for an error.09:10
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|lostbyte|That file logs with the time stamp.09:10
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mrdesk_how do i check what version of kde im running?09:10
feetin any program, click Help, then about KDE09:10
CroX|lostbyte|: Alright, will do that. Thanks.09:10
feeteven right clicking the panel at the bottom of the screen and picking about KDE will work09:11
edpghkbhk09:11
|lostbyte|mrdesk_, open any kde app, and go to help > about kde09:11
feetecho09:11
|lostbyte|:P09:12
feet:P09:12
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|lostbyte|feet, kde-config --version09:13
|lostbyte|:)09:13
feetthat too, if you want to load up a console :P09:13
|lostbyte|feet, any kde app with the -v parameter shows it.09:14
feetyeah09:15
feetbut still... save time loading a console and typing it when you can just click the kicker :D09:15
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|lostbyte|point.09:16
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edpaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa09:18
Ghostwolfanyone have any idea?09:18
edpemmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm09:19
feetsomeone likes holding the keys on their keyboard, dont they09:19
edpohya09:19
|lostbyte|Ghostwolf, yes, if we could all use hydroken cars, our future generation has a much likely chance not to burn in forest fires or floodes.09:19
feetnice idea!09:19
Ghostwolfignored09:20
|lostbyte|:)09:20
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unix_infidelanyone here used the alternate installer before.09:20
unix_infideltrying to decide b/w full Kubuntu install and alternate or server install.09:21
Jucatounix_infidel: if you know what you are doing and what you need, server (minimal) install might be good09:21
unix_infidelJucato: i know what i'm doing :)09:22
Jucatojust take note that the server install does not install some stuff like CUPS or HAL09:22
unix_infideljust not sure if i want the full KDE "experience"09:22
|lostbyte|Jucato, you are on a server install ?09:22
Jucato|lostbyte|: no, but I did try it out for a week09:22
Jucatospent most of my time trying to check what I'm missing09:22
GhostwolfSo anyways; can kubuntu install non-destructively on the free space on a RAID 0 setup?09:22
JucatoI never realized HAL wasn't installed until someone asked me if it was09:22
|lostbyte|Jucato, I had problem with the gurb, or maybe because i tried installing from a usbstick.09:23
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JucatoGhostwolf: what do you mean by "non-destructive"?09:23
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unix_infidelJucato: is it possible to remove kde-desktop but keep kdebase?09:23
unix_infideli mean remove all the kde-desktop associated packages with that meta package.09:23
unix_infidelbut keep kdebase?09:23
Jucatoyou mean kubuntu-desktop?09:23
Ghostwolfas in won't damage the parition or seperate the raid drives09:24
GhostwolfI need the info to survive :-p09:24
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Jucatothat I wouldn't know... I think the installer splits a partition to make room for swap09:25
Ghostwolfya I have free space09:25
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Ghostwolfjust the suse instalelr said kernel 2.6 would erase everything09:25
JucatoGhostwolf: the particular partition where Kubuntu will be installed must be reformated, I think that's what it means09:26
Jucatoit won't touch other partitions unless you indicate it09:26
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unix_infidelJucato: sure, kubuntu-desktop09:27
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unix_infidelis it possible to remove all components associated with that meta package but keep kdebase09:27
Jucatounix_infidel: kdebase is associated with kubuntu-desktop, so that would probably be a "no"09:28
unix_infidelJucato: so how would i go about removing all components associated with the meta package kubuntu-desktop09:28
|lostbyte|unix_infidel, huh.. remote kubuntu-desktop and then install kdebase :S09:28
Jucatoactually, every single package that's installed on your system was installed because of kubuntu-desktop09:28
Jucatohm...09:29
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unix_infidelJucato: you needed to install hal from server or alternate install discs?09:29
Jucatounix_infidel: my bad, kdebase isn't part of kubuntu-desktop's depends09:29
unix_infidelJucato: i think i'll just stick with a full "desktop" experience :)09:30
Jucatounix_infidel: server cd != alternate install cd09:30
unix_infidelJucato: right, i'm asking which one you used in which you had to install hal manually.09:30
Jucatoalternate install cd. you could use it as a repository09:30
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grotheskHi09:32
grotheskDoes anyone know, why there is no update for java?09:33
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novato182hola09:40
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novato182alguien puede ayudarme09:40
Jucato!es09:40
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:40
novato182sorri09:41
novato182help me?09:41
novato182my configuration xorg09:42
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[MaKuBeX] Visit http://www.omgema.lt  its good . Have a nice day!10:02
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unix_infidelheh, what a way to test 0 day browser exploits :010:04
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scionhello10:05
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fdovinghi scion.10:06
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unix_infidelgood call :010:06
unix_infidel:)10:06
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MilkyyHi, how do I change the hotkey for moving windows? Currently it is ALT-LMB but I want it to be "Windows button"-LMB, how do I do that?10:07
scionwould it be possible to get a bit of advice on monting a usb HDD with two ext3 partitions on it?10:07
unix_infidelare there any plans to decentralize the security updates server.10:07
unix_infidelthis is getting REALLY tedious?10:07
scioni am currently in work so will not be able to test until later10:07
|lostbyte|IS this real : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09bOAJKS8Gg10:07
Milkyyanyone?10:08
fdoving|lostbyte|: -offtopic?10:08
unix_infidelfdoving: you happen to have any contact with freenode staffer.10:09
scionhehe10:09
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fdovingunix_infidel: i can probably find one.10:09
|lostbyte|sorry..10:09
unix_infidelit seems this [MaKuBeX]  is spamming channels.10:09
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unix_infidelsame message, on multiple channels.10:10
scionany help for my usb prob?10:10
unix_infidelsame host as well. oddly enough.10:10
aquabluhi guys heres my results from when i try play a dvd  http://pastebin.com/79183410:12
aquabluitwants to start then flashes away10:12
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main2when i try to install the 'flashplugin-nonfree' using apt-get, it always returns aerror code 110:15
main2Use of uninitialized value in join or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Stack.pm line 104, <GEN1> line 2.10:16
main2is there a way to fix this?10:16
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main2shit10:17
main2sudo apt-get / dpkg always seem to fail on everything i try to install..10:17
main2dpkg: fout bij afhandelen van flashplugin-nonfree (--configure):10:18
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main2dpkg: error during handeling of flashplugin-nonfree....10:18
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Milkyyhow do I change hotkeys in KDE?10:18
aquabluanyone see the output to when i play a dvd10:19
aquabluhttp://pastebin.com/79183410:19
aquablui need the remedy10:19
main2Milkyy: regional settings in system settings10:19
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main2aquablu: i need a remedy for my problem as well ;)10:19
Milkyyokey thanks main210:19
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Milkyyunusual place to put that in o.o10:20
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main2Milkyy: it has its reasons i think10:20
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Milkyythat's the so far the only thing I haven't been able to do without asking in KDE10:21
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emonkeyMilkyy, change the hotkey in the system settings10:25
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Milkyyhmm, can't seem to find that hotkey...10:30
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JucatoMilkyy: I think moving windows with Alt+LMB is something built in/hardcoded?10:30
Milkyynah10:31
Milkyyit's in Metacity10:31
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Milkyyyou can easily change it in gnome via a utility...10:31
Milkyyso it would be strange if you couldn't in KDE...10:31
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visik7will kubuntu edgy have apport ?10:32
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DeadSouLI can not hear any voice from Kaffeine, how can I fix it? I think there is a problem with Kmix...10:32
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motorcitymadman!sound10:33
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin10:33
Linux_GaloreDeadSouL: run alsamixer10:33
DeadSouLok thanks10:33
Linux_GaloreIm finding with *ubuntu if its intel based or an intel clone bit of hardware it works fine10:34
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DeadSouLI try to share one of my folders. It says that KDE has to run a small program to share this folder. I allow it but it can not make small program run. So I can not share that folder. How can I make KDE run this small program?10:41
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Milkyystill can't seem to find the ALT+LMB hotkey anywhere :(10:43
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Milkyyhow do I access the "KDE Control Center"?10:52
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JucatoMilkyy: Alt+F2 then type in "kcontrol"10:52
Milkyythanks10:53
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Milkyythat's where the alleged change can be made10:54
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JucatoMilkyy: where?10:54
Jucatoexcept for a few modules, the things in KControl and System Settings are practically the same10:55
Milkyy"Go into KDE Control Center, expand Desktop, click window behavoir, then click window actions tab. You can turn off the alt-combos. If you want to make window specific settings, click on window specific settings under window behavoir on the side."10:55
DeadSouLIs there any video program better than Kaffeine?10:55
MilkyyMPlayer :)10:56
JucatoMilkyy: in System Settings, that would be in Desktop > Window Behavior also10:56
Jucatovlc?10:56
DeadSouLCan deleting Kaffeine harm system?10:56
JucatoDeadSouL: just leave it there. it's not that big :)10:57
DeadSouLok10:57
DeadSouL:)10:57
Milkyyah ok :)10:57
Milkyyit seems I can only change between Meta and Alt...10:57
Milkyynot the win key10:57
Milkyy:(10:57
JucatoMeta is the Win key iirc10:58
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Jucatoyep it is10:58
Milkyyok10:58
Milkyyyeah it worked :)10:58
Jucato:P10:59
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motorcitymadmanwhere are the desktop images stored ?11:01
Jucatowhat do you mean by "desktop images"?11:01
motorcitymadmanbackground11:02
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Jucatoah. system installed wallpapers would be in /usr/share/wallpapers, while user installed wallpapers would be in ~/.kde/share/wallpapers11:02
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motorcitymadmanis this a hidden place ~/.kde/share/wallpapers ? me no find11:06
flaccidyes11:06
flaccidany file in *nix prefixed with a . is hidden11:06
cpk1motorcitymadman: a . as a prefix means hidden11:06
motorcitymadmankey to unlock ?11:06
cpk1or what flaccid said =S11:07
flaccidsorry to but in11:07
flaccidthere is no key to unlock11:07
flaccidthey are hidden only11:07
flaccideg. cd ~/.kde11:07
Jucatomotorcitymadman: just type it in directly in Konqueror "~/.kde/share/wallpapers"11:08
Jucatoor if you want to see hidden files, go to View > Show Hidden Files11:08
flaccidfind your font, Jucato?11:08
Jucatono, I gave up :P11:08
flacciddang11:08
Jucatosome other day maybe :)11:08
Jucatoit's not for a desktop font anyway. just for some design/image11:09
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flaccidcool11:09
=== Jucato likey DejaVu Sans Condensed...
motorcitymadmankonqueror say sorry file does not exist ~/.kde/share/wallpapers11:10
swatgosstry to browse it from Konsole11:11
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swatgosswill work11:11
flaccidperhaps it doesn't exist11:11
Jucatomotorcitymadman: ah maybe because you haven't added any wallpaper yet, so the directory "wallapapers" doesn't exist yet11:12
flaccidtry ~/.kde/share first11:12
swatgosssince you got the exact "way/file location" (don't remember the english word) enter it in your Konqueror ?11:12
swatgosstry to browse it Konsole :p11:12
Jucatoit won't be in Konsole if it doesn't exist yet11:12
swatgossbut you will see it don't exist11:13
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swatgosswhen u make a dir in Konsole u see all directories right ?11:13
swatgossdir /.kde/share11:13
Jucatoif he goes to ~/.kde/share first, he'll see the same thigns11:13
swatgosslike cluedo :p11:13
Jucatothings*11:13
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swatgossdir don't show /.directories ?11:14
motorcitymadmankonq find this for me's ~/.kde/share11:14
Jucatohuh?11:14
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flaccidls -lh11:15
flaccidi mean ls -a11:15
flaccidi like ls -lah11:15
Jucatomotorcitymadman: the wallpapers directory in ~/.kde/share doesn't exist yet because you have not added any new wallpapers.11:15
Jucatoif you add a wallpaper (right-click desktop > Configure Desktop > etc...) that directory will be created11:16
flaccidtrying to upgrade konversation, i get this konversation: Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.4-1) but 4:3.5.4-0ubuntu2~dapper1 is to be installed11:16
flaccidplus some other errors following11:16
motorcitymadmanJucato: yes is true and thank you's11:16
Jucatoflaccid: upgrading to which version?11:17
flaccid1.011:17
Jucatoflaccid: it's not yet available in dapper11:17
swatgossversion of ?11:17
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Jucatokonversation 1.0 isn't in dapper (dapper-backports) yet11:17
flaccidok11:18
swatgoss0.19 now ?11:18
Jucatoflaccid: trying to install a deb rom Edgy?11:18
Jucatoswatgoss: yes11:18
Jucatokonvi 1.0 might be in dapper-backports in a few days, though11:18
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flaccidnegative11:19
flaccidits a friend11:19
Jucatoah11:20
flaccidhes running sudo apt-get install konversation11:20
Jucatois he on Dapper or Edgy?11:20
fildothis would be me11:20
flacciddapper11:20
flaccidlol11:20
flaccidfildo is just ripped atm11:20
Jucatook I'm confused... @_@11:20
flaccidsuprised he can type...11:20
fildolol11:20
crazy_penguinGood day all! :)11:20
fildoiam the friend Jucato11:21
Jucatoaaah11:21
motorcitymadmani started by using ubuntu-gnome, i like kubuntu-kde-desktop much better, the last thing was to printing working (done) now working on scanning11:21
fildoim having issues with installing konversation.v111:21
Jucatofildo: because konversation 1.0 doesn't exist in Dapper yet11:21
flaccidhehe11:21
fildoi have added , in sources.list11:21
fildothen updated .11:22
flaccidguys i'm going downstairs to drink more beer11:22
motorcitymadmanprinting and scanning = high level of anger11:22
fildobut when installs gives me a dep issue11:22
fildoflaccid: thnx11:22
Jucatofildo: what have you added in your sources.list?11:22
Jucatoflaccid: no pizza this time?11:22
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fildo# Nate's Debian Konversation packages11:24
fildodeb http://archive.aardvarque.com/debian/konversation sid main11:24
fildodeb-src http://archive.aardvarque.com/debian/konversation sid main11:24
Jucatofildo: no... that repository is made for Debian Sid. it won't work for Dapper11:24
fildoah fek11:24
fildowhere did i get it from,11:24
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fildolol another stoner moment11:25
Jucatobeats me...:P11:25
Jucatojust wait a few days, Konvi 1.0 might be available in dapper-backports11:25
fildocan u lead me to the light11:25
fildolol11:25
Linux_Galorefildo: goto www.kde-apps.org  you can download ver 1.011:25
swatgossturn light on ?11:25
fildoor just do it via src11:25
fildo?11:25
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JucatoLinux_Galore: if I'm not mistaken, 1.0 has some dependencies that are newer than the ones on Dapper11:25
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Linux_GaloreJucato: compiled fine for me11:26
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Jucatorunning a customized system?11:26
Linux_GaloreJucato: no I have kde 3.5.4 installed thats about it11:26
swatgosschangelog of Konversation 0.19 -> 1.0 ? (URL)11:27
Jucatofildo: you can try what Linux_Galore did.11:27
Jucatoor...11:27
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=== flaccid can't remember what he did to install konversation 1.0
Jucatohttp://konversation.kde.org/wiki/Kubuntu11:28
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Linux_GaloreJucato: konversation ver 1.0 also compiled on my mandriva 2006 machine without a problem11:28
flaccidyes we are cooking pizza downstairs Jucato11:28
flaccidhehe11:28
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Linux_GaloreJucato: thats running kde 3.5.211:28
Jucatoswatgoss: http://konversation.kde.org/ lists the changes11:28
JucatoLinux_Galore: different distros have different dependencies11:28
Jucatowhen it comes to versions, that is11:28
Linux_GaloreJucato: I know but all the packages on my mandriva machine are older than on my kubuntu one11:29
swatgosshu hu hu some good things :p11:29
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JucatoLinux_Galore: who knows. I don't know all the mysteries of the Linux world. I'm just saying that 1.0 isn't officially in Dapper yet11:29
Linux_Galoreinsnt that clever, put kradio on the repo but it wont install11:30
Jucatothat it will be (actually should have been weeks ago) in dapper-backports in a few days11:30
Linux_GaloreJucato: not that much difference to be honest11:30
Linux_GaloreJucato: looks and works exactly the same11:30
Linux_Galoreas the default kubuntu one11:30
Jucatonot much difference between 1.0 and 0.19?11:31
Linux_GaloreJucato: yes11:31
Jucato0.19 can't do left tabs11:31
Linux_Galoreseems more of a bug fix11:31
Jucato0.19 doesn't have Auto Replace11:32
Linux_Galorenever used left tab so I wouldnt know11:32
Jucato0.19's scrollback limit is 1000 lines11:32
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swatgosssome1 know where i can find a Nokia JDK for N-Gage/3650/7650 ?11:33
swatgossjust thinking about it cause i'm installing JDK 5.011:34
Linux_Galoreswatgoss: doesnt nokia have a linux web site11:34
swatgossnot linux one11:34
swatgosssymbian one11:34
Linux_Galoreno nokia has a linux website11:34
Linux_Galore770 runs Linux11:35
swatgossi know11:35
swatgossbut i look after N-Gage one11:35
swatgossand N-Gage run symbian 6011:35
swatgossneed a "symbian jdk"11:35
Linux_GaloreI used to have a n-gage,  didnt like it11:35
Linux_Galoregot it from a friend second hand11:36
swatgossi can't buy a 770 now, keeping money for a new laptop11:36
swatgossso i keep N-Gage for some more time ...11:36
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Linux_Galoreswatgoss: I wouldnt buy a 770 either, get a GP2X, fraction of the price and works better11:37
swatgosstactile screen ?11:37
Linux_GaloreGPX2 sorry11:37
swatgossno GP2X11:37
Linux_Galoreno X2  because it has two cpu's11:37
cpk1hmm i wish my irc client would tab complete words that are hard to spell11:37
cpk1and tab completed things in my sbin11:37
swatgossi remember GP 2x ...11:38
swatgosslooking on web11:38
Jucatothere are 2 different models bearing the same "GP" name11:38
swatgossmay be11:38
swatgossoh yes :p11:39
swatgossGPX2 :p11:39
Linux_Galoreswatgoss: yep your right http://www.gp2x.com/11:39
cpk1oh, guess no one else thinks that would be cool11:39
swatgossthere is 2 models as jucato says :p11:39
swatgossGP2X is older11:40
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swatgosslol 170K colors ...11:40
Jucatoyes, and GPX2 isn't out yet :P11:40
swatgoss2 is 131Kcolors ... and 2 is 262Kcolors ...11:41
swatgossHOW COULD THEY MAKE A 170K colors SCREEN :p11:41
Linux_Galoreno the gp2x-f100 is the latest one you can buy -> http://www.gp2x.net.au/11:41
swatgossor just a 131Kcolors screen ...11:41
Linux_Galorereason I like the GP2X is unlike other media players you dont have to re rip your video files to a lower res11:42
swatgoss5.3 bits for red, 5.3 bits for blue, 5.3 bits for green ?11:42
Linux_Galoreto play them11:42
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swatgosssome1 know how to adress 5.3333333333bits for color ?11:43
Linux_Galoreits pretty cheap and you get all the libs for free11:43
swatgossfor videos i got my DS :p11:43
swatgossnot 320x240 ... but 256x192 is enough for animes11:43
Linux_Galoreyeah but the ds has the same problem as the ipod and the creative vision:m  it wont play high res video files11:44
swatgossand ?11:44
swatgossno need of hi res :p11:44
swatgossreecoding to 256x19211:44
Linux_Galorewell all my anime files are 800x res11:44
swatgosssome of mine too11:44
Linux_GaloreIm not re ripping them if I dont have to11:45
Jucato*cough*offtopic*cough*11:45
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swatgosslot of them are "only 640x480" :p11:45
Linux_Galorewell no one is asking questions11:45
swatgossyes me11:45
swatgossmencoder11:45
Linux_Galoreand the room was dead11:45
swatgossi got mencoder and specific codec under win3211:45
swatgossto encode for my DS11:45
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swatgosscan't make kind of scratch myself ... i'm too bad for this kind of things ...11:46
swatgossu think i can find it somewhere ?11:46
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Linux_Galoreseen Linux running on a DS11:46
Jucatono way?!?!11:46
swatgossyop DSLinux :p11:46
Linux_Galoreyes way11:46
Linux_GaloreJucato: play anything you want11:46
swatgossdev are trying to make a GUI11:46
JucatoNO WAY!?!?!?11:46
swatgossbut with 4MB ram ...11:47
swatgossnot easy :p11:47
Linux_Galoreyeah theres some hardware hacks for the ds11:47
Linux_Galoreuse flash to extend its abilities11:47
swatgossSuperKey, SuperPass1/211:47
swatgossi got a SuperPass2 with a 256Mb SD card, soon a 2GB card11:47
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JucatoLinux_Galore: can DSLinux play mp3's, videos, and read PDFs?11:48
Linux_Galoreput linux on the flash and the 4mb is for kicking the base system off11:48
swatgoss:( but it only have 32MB of RAM on SuperCard (not Pass sry ...)11:48
swatgossi'm not sure11:48
Linux_Galoreswatgoss: I saw 4Gb flash being used11:48
swatgossit don't play mp3 video or PDf now ...11:49
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swatgossthe entire uncompressed linux is about 11MB11:49
Kenniehi is ther a way to remove the bleep in Konsole if eg. tab doesnt match?11:49
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swatgossjoin #DSonlinux1 :p11:50
swatgossnot u kennie11:50
JucatoKennie: Settings > Configure Notifications?11:50
Linux_GaloreKennie: yeah setting-> configure notifications11:50
Kenniek tnx :)11:50
JucatoKennie: or Settings > Bell11:50
Linux_GaloreI dont use konsole, been using yakuake for a year now11:50
JucatoLinux_Galore: well, Yakuake will basically use Konsole's settings11:51
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Linux_GaloreKennie: install yakuake  makes konsole look like a toy11:51
Jucatounless of course, you set it to use ssomething else11:51
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Linux_GaloreJucato: yes it does11:51
KennieLinux_Galore will check out ;)11:52
swatgossjust applied the matrix skin on Konsole :p11:52
swatgossGreen/black11:52
Linux_Galoreswatgoss: come here11:52
Linux_Galoreswatgoss: <whispers> closer11:53
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Linux_Galoreswatgoss: YOUR A GEEK!!11:53
Linux_Galoreheh heh11:53
swatgossi know ...11:53
swatgossi bega/un reading Java 1.5 at school ...11:53
Linux_Galoreswatgoss: done the perl stuff yet11:53
swatgosshummm11:54
swatgossschool11:54
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swatgoss"lyce" in france11:54
swatgosscollege i think in english countries11:54
Jucatoyou're both geeks :P11:54
Linux_Galoreswatgoss: your not a geek untill you can create totally unreadable perl code and use vim11:54
swatgossi'm a hardware geek :p11:54
Linux_Galorethen there is the mega geeks, there into lisp and schema11:54
swatgossi can sold you a 2nd AGP on ur mobo to make a SLI with it !11:55
Jucatothere are different "degrees" of geekyness. but the fact that you've been talking for a long time about modding handhelds with a geeky OS...11:55
Linux_Galorelol11:55
swatgoss:p11:55
Linux_GaloreJucato: gp2x comes with Linux11:55
swatgossi prefer DS11:55
Jucatoyeah.. but DS doesn't11:55
Jucatoso there!11:55
Jucato:P11:55
Linux_GaloreI havent modified an iPOD yet11:55
Linux_Galoreie ipodlinux.org11:55
swatgossso i was saying11:56
Linux_Galorethats next11:56
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JucatoI want to mod my Windows powered phone!!11:56
swatgossthe probleme of DSLinux is that it don't have much things by default11:56
Linux_Galoreswatgoss: have to use flash11:56
swatgosshanoi towers game11:56
swatgoss2 CLI games11:56
swatgosssome other things11:56
Jucatoif GPX2 comes out and it's cheap, and it can really read PDF's... i'm buying it...11:56
swatgosswill it have a touch screen ?11:57
swatgossand if a N-Gage can read PDF, a GPX2 will ...11:57
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Jucatowell, GP2X certainly couldn't11:57
swatgoss????11:58
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swatgossno need of a mouse :p11:58
JucatoGP2X's "e-book" reader is just a plain text ebook reader11:58
Jucatoswatgoss: well, for now there's not much on DS that needs it, right?11:58
Jucatoor at least, for the stuff available here... :(11:58
swatgossDS games, lot11:59
swatgossDS homebrews11:59
swatgosssome11:59
swatgosslike BeUp11:59
swatgossMSN on DS if u prefer :p11:59
swatgossto switch conversations11:59
swatgossthx to stylus11:59
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swatgossPIM ?12:00
Linux_GaloreJucato: like a Zaurus 320012:00
JucatoPersonal Info Manager12:00
swatgosspersonal ? manager12:00
swatgossok12:00
Jucato= PDA12:00
Linux_GaloreJucato: zaurus does all that12:00
swatgossDS with more RAM ...12:00
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Linux_Galoreswatgoss: some of the zaurus models come with a hardisk12:00
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swatgossor just a read/WRITE access on a DS card12:01
swatgossthats one of the 2 problems of DS ...12:01
swatgosstiny main RAM12:01
Jucatodoesn't DS have a plugin for MMC/SD Cards?12:01
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swatgossand not easy stockage12:01
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Linux_Galoreeven install debian on a zaurus12:01
swatgosswith a supercard yes12:01
Jucatoooh Sharp...12:01
Jucatoomoshiroi12:01
swatgossa super card is a SD/CF -> GBA adapter12:02
Jucatoooops. that means "interesting"12:02
swatgossbut only have 32MB of EEPROM of some kind of memory like that12:02
Linux_GaloreJucato: keep an eye on ebay, now and again someone buys one that doesnt have a clue how to use Linux and flogs it cheap12:02
Jucatooh no... keyboard...12:02
Linux_GaloreJucato: keyboard is built in but Ive seen someone connect a keyboard to a zaurus via the usb port12:03
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Jucatolooks nice...12:03
JucatoI just had a bad experience with gadgets with keyboards...12:04
Linux_Galorehttp://www.openzaurus.org/wordpress/12:04
Jucatoerr... it has a touchscreen?12:04
Linux_GaloreJucato: yep12:04
Jucatook that totally changes everything!! :)12:05
Jucatoah, now the question would be "how much" and whether there's local support for it...12:06
Linux_GaloreJucato: 5600 is a good entry level model -> http://cgi.ebay.com/SHARP-ZAURUS-SL-5600-PDA-LINUX-Wi-Fi-COLOR-LCD-IN-BOX_W0QQitemZ180029067309QQihZ008QQcategoryZ38331QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item18002906730912:07
JucatoLinux_Galore: hold on, what's Zauru's real/built-in OS?12:07
Linux_GaloreJucato: depends on what model there is a big range12:07
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JucatoSL-3000 is the one with Linux?12:07
Linux_GaloreJucato: yes zaurus runs the "full" version of Linux12:07
Linux_GaloreJucato: they all run Linux12:08
Jucatowonder if you could install a KDE distro :P12:08
Linux_GaloreJucato: it already run QT12:08
Jucatohey this 5600 is really cheap!12:08
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Linux_GaloreJucato: the gui on the zaurus is based on QT tool kit same as kde12:08
Jucatoyou have convinced me... and now I won't be able to sleep dreaming of it12:08
Jucatoaah  Qtopia12:09
Linux_GaloreJucato: the sl-c### ones are the best though12:10
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Jucatoand probably the most expensive...12:10
Jucatotime to hunt :P12:10
Linux_Galorebut if your after a good entry model the 5600 is the best, avoid the 5500 they're rubbish12:10
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Jucatoyou are feeding my addiction12:11
Jucato:P12:11
Linux_GaloreJucato: just wait, I got a sl-c3200 cheap after waiting 4 months12:11
Jucatohow much is "cheap"?12:11
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Linux_GaloreJucato: AU$360 or about US$27012:12
Jucatoouch12:12
Jucatohm.. not bad if I convert directly...12:12
Linux_Galoreyeah but the things are US$80012:12
JucatoO_O12:12
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Jucatotime to ask the local "geeks" about prices and good deals for this...12:13
Linux_GaloreIve ripped the hardisk out already and put a 30Gb micro drive in it from a broken creative mp3 player I baught on ebay for $6312:13
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Jucatough.. something I forgot to ask...12:13
zorglu_i would like kubuntu to accept the 'window' key on my keyboard, to later create shortcut based on it. any suggestion on where to start12:13
Jucatodoes it function as a phone?12:13
Linux_GaloreJucato: no, its basically a really small PC with an xscale cpu and a hardisk12:14
Jucatozorglu_: it accepts your windows key, but as a modifier key, that is, somethng like Alt or Ctrl12:14
Jucatohm... fair enough.. I'll just get a very cheap phone...12:14
JucatoI was hoping to purchase a new smartphone next year, though12:14
Linux_GaloreJucato: heard theres a project to put linux on a treo12:15
zorglu_Jucato: impossible to make it accept the window key as modifier ?12:15
Jucatozorglu_: it's a modifier already12:15
Jucatoyou can use it like Win+Space or Win+1 or Win+F112:15
JucatoLinux_Galore: nice...12:15
zorglu_Jucato: oh ok thanks12:15
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Werdna~tell me about dualboot12:15
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Werdnadammit12:15
Werdnais there a factoid-based bot in here?12:16
Linux_GaloreJucato: get ready for this screen shot, here we go -> http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/06/linux-on-treo-650-gets-real/12:16
Jucato!dualboot12:16
ubotuDual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot12:16
Linux_GaloreJucato: mauwahahah12:16
Jucatonoooooooo!!!12:16
Jucatough  gnome...12:16
Linux_Galoreyes you can feel the power of the Tux side12:17
JucatoI can see the foot, that's for sure :P12:17
Linux_GaloreJucato: few projects actually12:17
Linux_Galorefor the treo12:17
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Jucatowell, until then, my search continues...12:18
Linux_GaloreI was looking at a treo but deep southed the idea because I couldnt run Linux, well havent the times changed12:18
Jucatoa Symbian would probably be ok... anything just not Windows CE...12:18
Linux_GaloreJucato: just change the UI, it runs X so you can just set it to kdm12:18
Jucatoif KDE has a GPE equivalent12:18
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Linux_GaloreJucato: ooh theres a Linux treo in the works12:20
Jucatough...noooo....12:20
Linux_Galorefrom palm12:20
JucatoI thought I was cured of my gadget-addiction12:20
Linux_Galorelol12:20
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Linux_GaloreJucato: dont visit my place i collect PDA's12:20
Linux_GaloreIve got the whole Newton range including the clambook "in its original box"12:21
Jucatoha!! If I did, I'd steal them :P12:21
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Linux_Galoregot it from some guy in the UK, he baught it and never used the thing12:21
Linux_Galoreso basically its brand new12:22
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JucatoI actually prefer smartphones over plain PDA's or ultra mobiles... I don't like having to carry 2 gadgets around...12:22
Linux_Galoreall the local second hand shops have my email address12:22
Jucatohah12:22
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acidplacehello12:23
acidplacepeople12:23
acidplacehelp me pls12:23
Linux_Galoreyou may laugh now, but my Apple newtons have doubled on price on ebay in two years12:23
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acidplacei need to install xgl12:23
Linux_Galoreacidplace: ask away12:23
cpk1hooray no more boring pda talk, someone needs real help12:23
cpk1=)12:23
Linux_Galoreacidplace: what type of graphics card do you have12:24
Linux_Galorelol12:24
acidplaceSavege 3d12:24
Jucatocpk1: :P12:24
grotheskacidplace: Forget it.12:24
Linux_Galoreacidplace: not enough grunt12:24
acidplaceiok12:24
acidplaceok12:24
Jucatowon't work..12:24
Linux_Galoreacidplace: you need a GF4 at least12:24
Jucatoor an ATI equivalent...12:24
Linux_Galoreyeah but the ati drivers are rubbish12:25
Linux_Galorewith xgl12:25
acidplaceGeForce 620012:25
grotheskEven without xgl *g*12:25
Jucatoati = aiglx, nvidia = xgl12:25
Linux_Galorelol12:25
Jucatoacidplace: that would work, I guess12:25
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Linux_Galoreno isnt xgl = Novel and aixgl = red hat12:25
cpk1they are both doing the same thing12:26
acidplacewhat is rubbish12:26
Linux_Galoreati drivers12:26
Jucatoacidplace: rubbish means "trash"12:26
acidplaceati drivers is not good?12:26
Linux_Galoreacidplace: rubbish - garbage.trash,refuse12:27
acidplacewhat?12:27
grotheskNo, ati drivers are not good.12:27
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Linux_Galoreacidplace: there ok but nvidia does a better job12:27
acidplaceok12:27
Jucatosome like ATI, some like NVIDIA. personal choice...12:27
acidplacebut12:27
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cpk1it used to be that nvidia was the clear choice for a linux machine12:27
swatgossfor nux drivers nvidia is a bit ahead12:27
swatgossi got a 6600GT on my desk PC and a Mobility 9200 on my laptop ...12:28
Linux_Galoreyeah also Nvidia is launching the new 9### series drivers with better xorg 7.01 support12:28
Jucatoanyway, acidplace you need an nvidia card for xgl to work12:28
acidplacei installed  to my home PC GeForce FX 5200 MB 128bit is good12:28
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Jucatoyes, that kind of video card12:28
swatgoss9200 only run generic drivers :p12:28
Linux_Galoregot 7200 on this machine and a 420m on my laptop12:29
JucatoLinux_Galore: don't you mean X.org 7.1?12:29
swatgossFX5200 128bits ?12:29
swatgosscalled a 5500 now :p12:29
Linux_GaloreJucato: could be12:29
swatgoss3rd gen FX5200 are 64bits12:29
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swatgossor speaking about 128MB :p12:29
Jucatounfortunately, the X.org that will ship with Edgy has only AIGLX enabled, and it seems that X.org prefers AIGLX... :(12:30
Linux_GaloreJucato: just read the release details and it said native support for xorg 7. something12:30
laz-e-coyotehi, does anyone know if it's possible to focus on the filter text box in the konqueror toolbar using a keyboard shortcut?12:30
Linux_Galoreyeah but aiglx is no were near as mature as xgl12:30
acidplacebut peple help me to install to my PC XGL12:30
acidplaceon ge force FX5200 128MB12:30
Jucato!xgl12:30
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems12:30
Linux_Galoreacidplace: wont work your card hasnt got enough grunt to run the effects12:31
JucatoLinux_Galore: he has one on his PC at home12:31
Jucatolaz-e-coyote: that I'd love to know too12:31
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Linux_Galoreacidplace: click the link above this post12:32
Linux_GaloreJucato: lag12:32
Jucato:(12:32
laz-e-coyoteJucato: it's one of the most useful features in kde, but the lack of keyboard shortcut makes it almost useless12:32
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Linux_Galorelaz-e-coyote: ??12:33
Jucatolaz-e-coyote: yeah... in the meantime, you could try "fast typing" to get to the file if you know the filename12:33
JucatoLinux_Galore: filter search in Konqueroro12:33
laz-e-coyoteLinux_Galore: the filter text box in konqueror12:33
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Linux_Galorelaz-e-coyote: I use kbeagle for text files12:34
abattoiryou guys mean the filter box in the file mgmt. mode?12:34
Linux_Galorelaz-e-coyote: wrong tool12:34
JucatoLinux_Galore: err... not that12:34
Jucatoabattoir: yes12:34
laz-e-coyoteabattoir: exactly12:34
Jucatoyou know of any keyboard voodoo?12:34
Jucatoabattoir: btw, wb :)12:34
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abattoirJucato: thanks :)12:34
zorglu_i like the web :)12:34
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abattoirJucato: seems like my clone left when i left too :)12:35
Jucatoheh12:35
zorglu_Jucato: i just googled you, looked at your blog and what you were doing. it is cool :)12:35
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JucatoO_O12:35
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Jucatowhich of my blogs?12:35
Linux_Galorelaz-e-coyote: heh heh I have a text filter on konqueror, Tools->View Filter->Text Document12:36
Jucatothis is one of those moments that I wish I was like abattoir :)12:36
zorglu_Jucato: dont remember the url, the one about ubuntu with the classroom, on wordpress i think12:36
Linux_Galorelaz-e-coyote: you mean that12:36
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Jucatoaah12:36
Jucatolol12:36
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abattoirJucato: why what happened?12:36
Jucatomy Multiply site is more updated than WP..12:36
abattoiraah, being discreet :)12:36
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JucatoLinux_Galore: err... wrong answer?12:37
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laz-e-coyoteLinux_Galore: no, i mean the filter text box on the toolbar, when u type something in it it filters the list of files and shows only the files with the text your wrote in the filename string12:37
JucatoLinux_Galore: he's asking about a keyboard shortcut to activate the filter search field in Konqueror12:37
Linux_Galorelaz-e-coyote: he want to filter text files doesnt he12:37
Linux_GaloreJucato: aaa12:37
laz-e-coyoteLinux_Galore: no12:37
Jucatosomething like what F6 does to the URL/Location bar12:37
abattoiror Ctrl+L12:37
laz-e-coyoteLinux_Galore: i want to show only files that have a specific string in their filename12:38
Jucatoabattoir: that's for the location/address bar...12:38
Linux_GaloreJucato: you mean link a key with a command12:38
abattoirCtrl+S goes to the search bar12:38
laz-e-coyoteLinux_Galore: and not necessarily in the beginning of the file12:38
abattoirmaybe its time to  code one ;)12:38
laz-e-coyoteabattoir: it's not the search bar12:38
Linux_Galorelaz-e-coyote: do that with keytouch12:38
JucatoLinux_Galore: no12:38
Jucatonot the search bar, not a command...12:38
abattoirJucato: yes, that's what i meant, it was an 'or' for your statement12:38
laz-e-coyoteLinux_Galore: how?12:38
Jucatoaah12:38
JucatoLinux_Galore: do you see what happens when you press Ctrl+L or F6?12:39
Jucatoin Konqueror12:39
Linux_Galorelaz-e-coyote: every app has an kio option that you can tell keytouch to activate12:39
laz-e-coyoteLinux_Galore: can i test it with dcop?12:40
Jucatoer.. problem in using dcop... you have to know the exact name of the Konqueror instance12:40
Linux_Galorelaz-e-coyote: good example run dcop amarok player nowPlaying  when amarok is up and running12:41
Linux_Galorelaz-e-coyote: in the command line12:41
Linux_Galoreit should tell you what is playing12:41
JucatoLinux_Galore: problem in using dcop... you have to know the exact name of the Konqueror instance for it to work12:41
Linux_GaloreJucato: yes but you can use --help12:42
Linux_GaloreJucato: at each level12:42
JucatoLinux_Galore: not what I meant12:42
Linux_Galorehelp will then tell you your options12:42
swatgossthetime12:42
Jucatodcop sees Konqueror as konqueror-####12:42
Jucatoeach konqueror instance has a different number.12:43
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Linux_GaloreJucato: yeah but you can script that and key keytouch to run it12:43
Linux_Galoreget*12:43
Werdnawow. dualbooting is actually pretty damn easy12:43
Linux_Galorekeytouch -> script -> konqueror action12:43
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Jucatowell if you say so... but don't you think it's overkill to be going through this for a function that should actually be there?12:44
JucatoWerdna: glad you found your way12:44
Linux_GaloreJucato: or just use kbeagle lol12:44
WerdnaJucato, ;-) thanks.12:44
Jucatothey serve different purposes...12:44
laz-e-coyoteLinux_Galore: i only want the files in the current folder12:44
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Jucatoand it's even more overkill to use beagle to quickly filter through a directory that you're already on...12:45
lupine_85beagle-- :(12:46
Linux_GaloreJucato: bugger me kcontrol->system->Input Actions  its all there12:47
zorglu_one kde guys, vandoneur or close, did something similar on kde (in c++)12:47
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Jucatobut not the "exact" command/shortcut...12:47
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Linux_GaloreJucato: yes you can edit the exact command keyboard shortcut , even show some examples12:48
JucatoLinux_Galore: I meant, not the exact command that laz-e-coyote has been looking for.12:48
Jucato"focus filter search"12:48
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Linux_GaloreJucato: its in kcontrol12:49
Jucatowhere? I'm looking at it right now12:49
Jucatowhere is the Input Action that will focus on the Filter Search field?12:49
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Jucatohm....12:52
laz-e-coyotei can't find the filter thing using dcop12:52
Jucatoneither can I...12:52
laz-e-coyotethe konqueror-9156 item doesn't seem to have that12:53
Jucato(btw, you can use kdcop to use dcop with a GUI)12:53
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Linux_Galorejust had an idea, I remember reading something about hacking the konquerorrc file for shortcuts12:57
Jucatowell, unless we know which part/command/whatever does that..12:57
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Linux_GaloreJucato: aaah you can set window specific shortcuts01:04
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JucatoLinux_Galore: Alt+F301:04
Linux_Galorebasically you save your text browsing filtered session01:04
Jucato???01:05
brophoany1 know where i can get some stuff for linux01:05
brophofree stuff01:05
swatgossadept ?01:05
Linux_GaloreJucato: say I use the filter->text option i can actually save that as a mode01:05
Linux_Galorethen access it with a shortcut01:05
JucatoLinux_Galore: and if I would want to filter on another directory? will it work?01:06
swatgossbropho try adept ...01:06
brophoswatgoss wats that01:06
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swatgossbropho program for download/install all kind of other programs01:07
swatgossu click on the program u like01:07
swatgossapply01:07
swatgossand u have the program01:07
swatgossall free01:07
brophoswatgoss where from01:08
swatgossK menu01:08
swatgosssystem > adept manager01:08
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Jucatobropho: read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware and this https://help.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/add-applications.html01:08
Loungeflyhey all, just wanting to get some feedback. I know Reconstructor and UCK are available, but is there any way to make a liveCD based on a currently installed Ubuntu/Kubuntu? In the way that mklivecd is able to etc.01:08
brophooh right i know wat u mean know i know about that01:08
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swatgosswhat kind of free stuff u look after ?01:09
Loungefly:)01:09
swatgossall programs u can want to DL are on adept01:09
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brophook then what about wmv codec01:10
swatgoss!codec01:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:10
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swatgoss!codecs01:10
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:10
swatgosslook here01:10
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Loungeflyanyone? Bueller....Bueller....01:11
SillyZgmorning01:11
swatgossmorning ? what country ?01:11
abattoirFerris bueller? :P01:11
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brophoits 9"11 pm here01:11
SillyZusa, gmt-050001:11
bropho9:11 pm01:11
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Loungeflyyep :P amazing how many people don't pick up on that. I must be getting old :P01:12
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swatgoss1:12pm ....01:12
brophoim in aus01:12
brophoauzzie01:12
SillyZi know who bueller is, and ya makes me feel old just thinkin bout it01:12
SillyZ:D01:12
Loungeflylol01:12
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Loungeflywhat part of oz bropho?01:13
brophotas01:13
Loungeflyok so I take it there's no way to create a liveCD based on a current install?01:13
Loungeflyah cool01:13
Loungeflysouth coast NSW here01:13
brophocool01:13
DeadSouLI connected my laptop to TV. I got output from both TV and Laptop's monitor but image in the TV is black and white. How can I make it colorful01:13
DeadSouL?01:14
brophoiim bored01:14
leo__hi01:14
leo__jemand aus deutschland da?01:15
Loungeflywhatchoo talkin' bout Willis01:15
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swatgossabout how many hours can i consider JDK 5.0 install is crashed ? 3 hours is enough  ?01:17
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brophoi want to learn c++01:18
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swatgosswww.wannalearnc++.com01:18
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brophocool thanks01:20
laz-e-coyoteLinux_Galore: i don't wanna filter text files01:20
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laz-e-coyoteLinux_Galore: i want to display only files with a specific string in the NAME of the file01:21
lupine_85then use find :)01:21
lupine_85or slocate01:21
fleissigfionahey lupine01:21
lupine_85hi :)01:22
lupine_85how's you?01:22
fleissigfionagood thanks01:22
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momalDoes anyone know how to reload xorg to all defaults? when I started kubuntu it just showed the checkedscreen with black X-hair. So I reinstalled xorg, reinstalled the nvidia drivers, tried nvidia drivers from sound, glx and glx-legacy and using nvidia-xconfig... nothing is working. my card is a GF7800gt01:23
brophomy web browser wont work (konqueror, firefox)01:23
brophomy web browsers wont work (konqueror, firefox)01:23
momalI have trid | X -configure | as well and no work :(01:23
swatgossdo u ever saw an URL with a "+" in it ?01:23
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brophoits not that konqueror wont start up01:24
swatgossdo = did01:24
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Linux_Galorelaz-e-coyote: learn the command line lazy01:24
Linux_Galorelaz-e-coyote: ie grep will filter files01:24
tillmannmomal: are you sure that you are starting some kind of login manager (kdm/gdm)01:24
brophoill be back in a sec reboot computer01:25
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momalomfg didn't think of that will check.01:26
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perasorry01:26
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momalkdm seems to start well it is running kdm according to ps01:28
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brophoim back01:30
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Linux_Galoreyou know the only thing that I find annoying about konqueror is there is no shortcut to Find, Firefox its ctrl f01:33
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brophoim bored01:34
momalis there some generic drivers for nvidia cards that will work with xorg? that I can load01:34
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tillmannI don't know much about nvidea driver or X in general, but the open source nv driver should at least get you 2D support01:37
tillmannyou might try to use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:38
Linux_Galoremomal: yeah you have two choices, get the driver from nvidia.com or install the nvidia driver via adept01:38
tillmannand have at /var/log/Xorg.*.log01:38
momallinux_galore: I have already tried both X starts then just hangs on checked screen with black X-hair01:39
Linux_Galoremomal: thats X running01:39
Linux_Galoremomal: do you get the nvidia splash screen01:40
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Linux_Galoremomal: if you dont get the nvidia splash screen it means the driver isnt installed properly01:41
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momalI get it then it goes straight to checked screen and stops01:43
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Linux_Galoremomal: read this -> http://kubuntu101.blogspot.com/2005/11/linux-gaming-part-4-installing-nvidia.html01:44
Linux_Galoremomal: you dont have the driver installed its that simple01:44
Linux_Galoremomal: no nvidia flash screen = driver not installed properly01:44
Linux_Galoremomal: ok boot the machine up and I will show you how to get it back to a default settings01:45
Samuli^momal, there's nvidia-glx in the repos.01:45
momalLinux_Galore: I said i got it the flash screen with nvidia icon but then after it comes up it goes to checked screen with black X01:45
momalalready have that installed samuli^01:46
Linux_Galoremomal: so you get the Big NVIDIA logo01:46
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Linux_Galoremomal: if you get that then the driver is working01:46
momalyes white background nvidia logo in middle thats green and says nvidia01:46
momalbut then it just stops01:46
Linux_Galoremomal: if you get X that means the X graphical server is working01:47
Linux_Galoremomal: if you get no login that means kdm is borked01:47
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momalyea then why isn't anything else loading :S01:47
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Linux_Galoremomal: press ctrl alt backspace01:47
Samuli^momal, try sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart01:48
crazyjazyne1 help me with an alternate install of ubuntu (using a backpack external cd drive01:48
Samuli^maybe it's just no running at all.01:48
Samuli^not01:48
Linux_GaloreSamuli^: yeah I think he broke kdm some how01:48
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Linux_GaloreSamuli^: stuffing around with adept lol01:48
Linux_GaloreSamuli^: maybe the whole kubuntu-desktop has been removed, saw that once01:49
Linux_Galoreget the same problem were x works but theres nothing to load01:49
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Samuli^heh, yeah. Or kdm just isn't running. X doesn't start kdm.01:50
brophoyou cant read this01:51
bropho you cant read this01:51
Linux_GaloreSamuli^: after years of doing admin and tech support first thing I learn is people lie about why there computer has gone spastic01:51
brophodamit01:51
brophoi want red hat01:52
bropholinux01:52
brophocost too much01:52
Linux_GaloreSamuli^: got to the stage were at work I have no admin logins allowed via a keyboard, you have to use a usb thumb drive with a pam key on it01:52
Linux_Galorebropho: get CentOS  its a free version of RHEL01:53
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Linux_Galorebropho: or use fedora01:53
bropholinux is big too download though i have slow internet01:53
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Linux_Galorebropho: you can install some distro via a floppy or a small image you can download ie suse can do that01:54
brophoyeah but doesnt it use the internet for the install01:54
Linux_Galorebropho: linux is as big or small as you want it to be, dam small Linux (dsl) is only about 64mb01:54
Linux_Galorebropho: you can always just order an ubuntu cd to be sent to you for free01:55
Linux_Galorebropho: or talk to your local LUG and they will often give you a CD for nothing or for a trade on a blank cd01:56
brophoim kubuntu know from a magazine i got. im going to got to that shop 2morrow01:56
brophoLUG?01:56
Linux_Galorehttp://www.ssc.com:8080/glue/groups/01:56
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Linux_Galorebropho: click on the link above to find you local lug  (Linux user group)01:57
brophoim from a small town we dont have one01:57
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Linux_Galorebropho: you do have a mail box dont you01:57
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brophoyes01:57
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Linux_Galorebropho: send a self address letter to the person offering the cd at your nearest LUG01:58
Linux_Galorebropho: they will mail you the cd back01:58
brophoit took me too www.linuxjournal.com01:58
momalomg... It started up after running /etc/init.d/kdm restart and i rebooted the computer just to make sure was all good.. now it freezes on kubuntu screen with the kubuntu logo in blue and the blue loading bar. so I tried running the restart again and just sits there O_o01:59
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Linux_Galorebropho: sorry better link -> http://www.linux.org/groups/01:59
bropholoading02:00
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Linux_Galoremomal: something is seriously borked02:00
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momalok just reinstalled nvidia drivers from sound seems to come up now... time for another reboot and see what happens02:01
Linux_Galoremomal: when it becomes a moving target like with your machine I start thinking bad hardware02:01
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brophocool i found one in my state (tasmania)02:01
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Linux_Galorebropho: now go onto there mailing list sign up and them email them a request02:02
Werdnaare dm-x devices removable, i.e. a firewire drive or something?02:02
momalrofl i hope not its all new lol!... its rebooting forsome reason X didn't load jsut before said nvidia module wasn't loaded its booting up now hopefully will work02:02
Linux_Galorebropho: they might even have a channel on freenode02:02
brophook02:02
brophothanks02:03
Linux_Galorebropho: whats the club called tslug ??02:03
Linux_Galorebropho: whats the club called taslug ??02:03
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brophoyes02:03
bobbyyuI have a problem: my packages are broken and Adept won't commit changes02:04
Werdnabobbyyu, what have you changed recently?02:04
bobbyyuWhat is the first thing to check?02:04
Linux_Galorebropho: aah there called penguinlug  lol02:04
bobbyyuWhat do you mean?02:04
Werdnasome error message pastes might also be helpful - but if it's more than a line or two, put it in a pastebin02:04
bobbyyuI did a massive update02:04
WerdnaI see.02:05
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bropholol02:05
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brophostupid slow internet02:06
Linux_Galorebropho: well they have a forum, so just create an account and ask away02:06
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Linux_Galorebropho: why do you have dialup ?, dsl is the same price now02:07
brophodsl is not available were im at02:07
Werdna!dualboot02:07
ubotuDual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot02:07
bobbyyuSo what's the first thing to look?02:07
Linux_Galorebropho: what your too far from the exchange ??02:07
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Linux_Galorebropho: all exchanges in AU not have dsl, its legislative law02:08
Linux_Galorenow*02:08
brophoi dont telstra wont let us have unless 300 people demand it and our pop is only 90002:09
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brophotelstra wont let us have unless 300 people demand it and our pop is only 90002:09
Linux_Galorebropho: they cant refuse, tell them they are infringing there T1 agreement with the government and you will lodge a complaint with the aca02:09
Linux_Galorebropho: bet you get dsl in a week02:10
brophowat make u say that02:10
Linux_Galorebecause the aca will slap a $500 per day fine on them02:10
brophowhere can i see this agreenmant02:10
Linux_Galorebroth: just inquire about the aca on google02:11
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Linux_Galorebropho: they manage all that type of stuff02:11
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brophook this is geting interesting02:12
brophotheres alot of aca's on google wich one is it02:12
Linux_Galorebropho: part of the deal with the t1 selloff is a service guarantee to remote areas02:13
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Linux_Galorebropho: be a .gov one02:13
brophowhat does aca stand for02:14
Linux_Galorebropho: http://www.acma.gov.au/ACMAINTER:HOMEPAGE::pc=HOME02:15
Linux_Galoreaustralian communications authority02:15
brophothanks02:16
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stephanSTOP02:16
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momalok this makes no freeken sense >_<. boots up and doesn't start X trying to start X manually says about nvidia module not loading. So i run the nvidia driver installer it installs fine. I restart X and kdm back up they work fine as soon as I reboot the computer it wont start again.02:19
Linux_Galoremomal: something isnt being saved02:20
bropholinux_galore: i cant find it02:20
Linux_Galorebropho: it wont be on there home page email and ask02:20
brophook02:20
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Linux_Galorebropho: so no wireless either huh02:21
momalthe error on X is about api mismatch from the X module to the Nvidia kernal module :S02:21
brophowireless broadband yeah but its slower than dial-up here02:21
Linux_Galorebropho: they wonder why more young people leave than stay in Tasmania per year, hmm might be because there so technically retarded that young people feel strangled02:22
brophoyeah thats about right but i would be happy with leaving this crappy town02:22
Linux_Galorebropho: Tamsmania in 20 years will be just full of greenies and old people02:23
Werdnateehee02:23
brophoi hpe not02:23
Linux_Galorebropho: my parents lived there for a while02:23
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brophoyeah?02:23
Linux_Galorebropho: they couldnt leave fast enough02:23
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dhqi will install windows xp now how do i reconfigure grub02:23
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brophoyeah02:24
Linux_Galorebropho: Tasmania when I rode my motorbike there reminded me allot of rural northern victoria02:24
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Linux_Galorebropho: nice place to visit (Tasmania) sux to be you lol02:25
brophoyeah i know i am me!02:25
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MenZadhq: try #ubuntu02:26
Linux_Galorebropho: the neighbours next to were my parents lived built there own log cabbin house and decided they would live on the dole for the rest of there lives, I asked, so your not ever going to get a job, they were a matter of fact "yep"02:27
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momalAnyone have an ideas to why nvidia module wont save ?... (X doesn't start install drivers it works. reboot computer doesn't work again)02:27
bropholol02:28
Linux_Galorebropho: everyone is running some type of back yard scam in tasmania, I got fresh milk and eggs and beef that was butchered only 5 days ago02:28
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Linux_Galorebropho: if you a no chemicals so fresh its still warm type of person tasmania is great02:29
brophoi dont realy care about that stuff as long as its good02:29
Linux_Galorebropho: trust me it is, I miss the milk and the mega tender steaks02:30
brophoyeah i like meat02:30
Linux_Galoreand the day old eggs02:30
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brophoeggs are ok02:30
arunkalehey people02:30
Linux_Galorebropho: depends were you get them, super market eggs are a week old02:31
Linux_Galorebropho: day old eggs have a funny smell so they put them in storage for a week02:32
brophoi sometimes get them from my grandad who lives on a farm02:32
Linux_Galoresheesh no questions tonight02:32
Linux_Galorebropho: yeah, found you cant make cakes with day old eggs02:32
Linux_Galorebropho: have to wait a few days02:33
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larson9999i wrote a tool for work years ago that reported on disk usage at the user/file/ and directory level.  basically you set thresholds for when you wanted to report.  for instance percentage free of the file system, directories over a certain size and files over a certain size.  i've looked for disk usage tools and can't find anything that breaks it down to that level.  before i rewrite it i figured i'd ask if anyone here knows of such02:33
larson9999 a tool02:33
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Linux_Galorelarson9999: Ive seen something like that02:34
Linux_Galorelarson9999: actually a few apps that do it02:34
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Linux_Galorelarson9999: http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=disk+usage&section=projects&Go.x=0&Go.y=002:35
Werdna!wifi02:35
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:35
Linux_Galorelarson9999: only 43 projects02:36
Linux_Galoreheh heh02:36
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brophoi just sent that email to acma02:37
brophoabouyt dsl02:37
gubatron_momal, you there?02:37
brophoabout02:37
momalgarr can't figure it out gues i'll jsut have to never reboot >_<02:37
momalyea I am02:37
gubatron_momal: you have the latest kernel headers?02:37
Linux_Galorebropho: see what they say, Liberals have been watering down all the T1 stuff02:37
momalunles they were updated in the last month02:37
brophook02:37
larson9999Linux_Galore: lol.  i looked and didn't see anything that is exactly what i'm looking for.  i'll look again through this list.02:38
gubatron_I think they were, I had to recompile my vmware and my vpnclient this week, I did a dist-upgrade during the weekend02:38
momali'll do a full update on my system again.02:38
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Linux_Galorelarson9999: diskfree emails you02:38
larson9999Linux_Galore: just saw that.  looks close02:39
brophoi havent got confirm email from taslug yet02:39
gubatron_and momal you have the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.latest-your-arch ?02:39
gubatron_you want to make sure there's no mismatch bet. your kernel and those nvidia modules02:39
Linux_Galorelarson9999: always search with a different string on that site02:39
gubatron_momal: I went through similar problems this week on two machines, configuring xgl, and configuring a dual screen machine02:40
Linux_Galorelarson9999: ie disk monitoring02:40
gubatron_this channel rocks, always had it open on konversation but never read it02:40
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brophoim hungry be back in a sec02:45
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swatgossre all02:46
swatgossmy JDK install crashed02:47
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swatgossafter reboot adept tells me he is in read only mode02:47
Jucatoswatgoss: run this in Konsole: sudo dpkg --configure -a02:48
swatgossdo i have a way to clear some kind of cache02:48
swatgossit restard install ?02:49
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Jucatoswatgoss: yes02:49
momalapt-get clean i belive will clear its cache02:49
Jucatoit will continue where it stopped when it hung02:49
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Jucatohang.. hung... err02:49
swatgossParamtrage de libltdl3 (1.5.22-2) ...02:49
swatgossParamtrage de odbcinst1debian1 (2.2.11-11build1) ...02:49
swatgossParamtrage de unixodbc (2.2.11-11build1) ...02:49
Jucatoswatgoss: don't paste here please. use pastebin02:50
swatgosstells me only this, adpet crashed at the early beginning of jdk 5.002:50
swatgossi think its ok now :p02:50
Jucatothe command that I gave should fix it02:50
NeoSakiI do not speaka this language02:50
swatgossi didnt use pastebin cuz its only 3 lines :p02:50
Jucato:P02:50
zorglu_q. im trying to narrow down the reason of why kded eat 100% cpu on my box, it keep reading on a socket, socket:[18751]  according to /proc, how can i convert socket:[18751]  to a more readable format ?02:50
swatgossdictionnary ?02:51
swatgossgoogle translate ?02:51
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swatgossoh, not google translate, u asked readable thing :p02:51
NeoSakiSaki Don't Speak anything besides Fontinium02:51
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Jucatozorglu_: have you tried the #kde channel?02:51
momalwhat kernal should be used for amx x2 ?02:52
swatgossamx X2 ?02:52
swatgosswoooow02:52
NeoSakiAMD X-202:52
swatgossfrench tank :p02:52
momalthat could be my prob since im on amd now rather then p402:52
Jucatoheh...02:52
swatgossAMD 64 kernel ?02:52
NeoSakiyeah02:52
swatgossor K802:52
NeoSakiKubuntu-6402:52
zorglu_Jucato: not yet this one :) ok trying02:52
swatgossbut i don t know SMP ...02:52
swatgoss"if they are SMP"02:53
momalyea amd x2 4200.. umm anyway i can update it to 64 without reinstall of everything ?02:53
NeoSakimomal: yeah02:53
swatgossyou sure ?02:53
NeoSakimomal: just install the x86_64 image02:53
swatgossoh yeah02:53
NeoSakimomal: and edit grub02:53
swatgossjust thniking about it :p02:53
NeoSakiI am running both 64 and 3202:54
swatgossprograms are the same ...02:54
brophoLinux_Galore: y so quiet02:54
swatgossu got a 96bit OS ?02:54
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swatgossgreat !02:54
NeoSaki>_>02:55
swatgoss-_- scarying myself sometimes ...02:55
momalarr... hmm is the 64 in another rep? because its not in mine :(02:55
swatgossmy hand have no humor ...02:55
NeoSakiI wish Flash would hurry up and support linux x86_64 already02:55
NeoSakimomal: yeah02:55
NeoSakimomal: you have to enable the 64-bit repos02:55
NeoSaki!x86_6402:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about x86_64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:56
momalwait a second... flash.. are you saying i can't use any flash in firefox on 64 O_o02:56
swatgoss!amd6402:56
NeoSakihrm... that sucks02:56
ubotuAMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.02:56
NeoSakiahh02:56
NeoSakimomal: Yeah, You have todo a work around to get it to work properly02:56
swatgosslinux = cluedo sometimes :p02:56
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momal... have you gotten that workaround to acually work ?02:56
swatgossjdk install is back :p02:57
Werdnahow can I download the package file for ubuntu to transfer onto a non-networked computer?02:57
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swatgossgood question02:57
momalon apt-get you can make it download but not install can't you i remember seeing it somewhere.. have a look at apt-get --help02:58
Werdnahmm...02:58
swatgossare the repos "connectable" via http or something ?02:58
Werdnais there a website I can browse a la packages.debian.org?02:58
Jucatopackages.ubuntu.com02:59
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Werdnadammit.02:59
Werdnathank you captain obvious :-D02:59
Jucatothe problem with downloading and installing packages individually is that you won't be able to know and resolve dependencies02:59
Werdnayeah, I'll fix that up02:59
Jucato"sudo apt-get install -d <package>" to download only, iirc02:59
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swatgosspackages can't "detect" themselves on a local partition ?03:00
Werdna!wifi03:00
swatgossand their dependencies03:00
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:00
Jucatoswatgoss: what do you mean?03:00
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swatgossu have 3 packages on a local disk03:00
swatgossu launch install of 1 of 303:00
swatgoss3 are dependant03:00
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swatgossdo the 1st detect and install the 2 others ?03:01
Jucatonope.03:01
Jucatoonly apt-get and higher package managers can do that03:01
swatgossv_v03:01
Jucatoinstalling and individual package requires you to use dpkg, which doesn't have dependency handling03:01
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swatgossgot 1.6+ GB free on my "/" ... and the jdk install freeze again, 9% this time ...03:03
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swatgosslast time it does this03:03
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Werdnahmm.. that's weird03:03
Jucatoswatgoss: what are you using to install it and from where are you getting it?03:03
WerdnaI have ndiswrapper installed, but get ndiswrapper: command not found.03:04
swatgossadept > install jdk 5.0 > freeze03:04
Werdnaah, I need ndiswrapper-utils03:04
swatgossfrom normal repos03:04
Jucatoswatgoss: don't use Adept to install anything java03:04
momalhmm anyone happen to know of the url to the 64bit reps?03:04
swatgoss..........03:05
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Jucatouse apt-get. it "hangs" because it's requiring you to agree to a license agreement03:05
swatgossadept GUI don't show CANCEL button ...03:05
zorglu_swatgoss: i would guess adept ask for a license agreement, you may look at 'terminal output' or close. or use the same package via apt-get03:05
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zorglu_as jucato said :)03:05
zorglu_ok going to work03:06
Jucatoswatgoss: close Adept (just close it) and run the command I gave earlier03:06
swatgossok ok03:06
swatgossdpkg config -a ?03:06
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Jucatoswatgoss: sudo dpkg --configure -a03:06
swatgosslocked by another process03:06
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momallol close adept03:08
swatgossreboot ... winuser inside :p03:08
swatgossadept CLOSED, not killed03:08
Jucatoswatgoss: sudo killall adept03:08
Jucatothen the dpkg command03:08
swatgossnot via taskmanager ?03:09
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Jucatoswatgoss: you will have to run taskmanager as root to kill it03:09
swatgossadept: no process killed03:09
Jucatohm...03:09
MilkyyHey, I'm trying to run a game called "Tremulous" but apparently I get this: tremulous: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory03:09
swatgossconf -a always locked03:09
Jucatothe "sudo dpkg --configure -a"  says it's still locked?03:09
swatgossreboot incoming :p03:10
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Jucatoswatgoss: if you want to03:10
swatgosswill be back 8)03:10
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harvey_hi there03:10
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momalhmm... what kernel should i use for amd 32?03:11
Jucatoamd 32?03:11
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Jucatois that like Sempron 2200 (1.5GHz)?03:12
Dink2.6.1803:12
Dink=)03:12
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momalnar im talking about the 32bit side of a amx x203:12
momalamd x2*03:12
Jucatoah03:12
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momalI mean the arch lol03:12
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Dink2.6.18 works great :)03:13
Milkyyanyone?03:13
Dinkother then backporting module-assistant from edgy03:13
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milcohmmm03:15
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milcoafter a dist-upgrade, the nvidia kernel module cannot be found anymore03:15
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swatgossI'm baaack03:16
DinkMilkyy you on 64 ?03:16
Jucatoswatgoss: how was it?03:16
MilkyyDink:  yes03:16
swatgossand dpgk config -a don telle me anything ...03:16
Werdnabah! wifi on linux is of the devil.03:16
Dinksudo apt-get install ia32-libs-sdl03:16
Jucatoswatgoss: "sudo dpkg --configure -a" ?03:16
swatgossi confirm comand03:17
swatgossand nothing03:17
milcoim running kernel 2.6.15.27 since yesterday, but from one moment at the other - i seem to have lost my nvidia kernel module?03:17
swatgossyep03:17
swatgossi enter my root pass03:17
swatgossnothing03:17
milcowhen i type 'modeprobe nvidia' > module cannot be found03:17
MilkyyDink: great man thanks that worked :)03:17
Jucatothen it means there's nothing wrong anymore03:17
Dinkyep np03:17
milcoi have the nvidia-glx package installed... any ideas?03:17
swatgossnow CL install, or i got a CD with a .bin "shell script" given with m java book03:18
swatgoss*my*03:18
Dinkno idea I use ati :p03:18
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swatgosswich one ?03:18
milco..03:18
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Dinkplus i compile my own kernel so no idea man.. try to redownload the packages ??03:19
swatgossJucato .deb with command line or jdk .bin on my CD ?03:19
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Jucatoswatgoss: have you tried "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk" ?03:19
swatgossnot yet03:20
swatgossJucato but i got 2 options now03:20
Jucatoswatgoss: are you sure jdk is what you wanted to install?03:20
Jucatonot -jre or -bin?03:20
swatgossit downloaded 3 things, jdk jre and exemples03:21
Dinki would get the latest jdk from sun website symlink it to /usr/bin/java and add jre to profile03:21
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Dinkjdk comes with jre03:21
Jucatowell, installing from the repositories is supposed to make things easier03:21
swatgossbut i got 1 CD with my book of "java learning", with a .bin "shell script" on it03:22
swatgossa jdk .bin03:22
Dinkeasier... this is linux :p03:22
Dinknothing should be easy03:22
Jucatoaw c'mon, that was ages ago Dink03:23
swatgossbah same thing ... i compile my .bin with CL or i use apt-get with CL ...03:23
Jucatowe have something we call "GUI" now03:23
Dinkdamn did I just age myself there03:23
swatgosscan't use a GUI now ...03:23
Jucatoswatgoss: the problem is with Adept actually03:23
milcofor some vaque reason, 'nvidia.ko' disapeared from my machine03:23
swatgossand adept isn't a GUI ?03:23
Jucatoif Synaptic was used to install the same package, there wouldn't have been a problem03:23
swatgoss:'(03:23
Dinkapt-get isnt always 100% especially if you trying to do "special" things03:23
Dinksometimes you ahve to get down and dirty03:24
milcoive reinstalled nvidia-glx, but i dont get nvidia.ko back? :/03:24
JucatoDink: swatgoss isn't doing something "special", so apt-get should be fine03:24
Dinkwhat is he doing ?03:24
swatgossthat's why i'm asking if it couldn't be better to use my .bin on my CD ...03:24
swatgosstrying to get a jdk03:25
swatgosswanna compile/test my 1st java lines :p03:25
Jucatoswatgoss: it may or may not be better. using something not from the repositories means that you're not sure that it would work with Ubuntu03:25
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Dinkget jdk from apt-get03:25
Jucatobut then again, since sun-java5 is in multiverse...03:25
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DinkI like doing it myself cuz then you can set your javahome, ant, variables to what you like... which if you are doing java code you probably still have to do03:26
Jucato!java swatgoss03:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about java swatgoss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:26
Jucato!java > swatgoss03:26
Jucatothat page might help you if you want to install the .bin03:27
Dinkdo you mind a 3 line spam ?03:27
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Dink    *  PATH="/usr/java/jdk1.5.0/bin:$PATH"; export PATH03:27
Dink    * PATH="/usr/share/ant/bin:$PATH"; export PATH03:27
Dink    * JAVA_HOME="/usr/java/jdk1.5.0"; export JAVA_HOME03:27
Dinkyou probably still need to do that if you are compiling java code03:27
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Dinksomething simliar based on the location of you jdk... which to me is always better to use sun version03:28
JucatoDink: doesn't the update-java-something command take care of that already?03:28
Jucato!java03:28
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository03:28
Dinkive had problems in the past using "binary" packages from distros on compiling code03:28
swatgossi just want to check my square perimeter computing program ... :'( :'( :'(03:29
Jucatoswatgoss: better listen to someone with more experience in dealing with java... I tend to stay away from java...03:29
Dinkhonestly i would get java from sun website03:29
Dinkits like 2 clicks ;)03:29
swatgossand 1 compilation ?03:29
Dinkpre compiled03:29
Dinkwell i lied03:30
swatgossis it javac on linux ?03:30
Linux_Galorejava is easy to setup03:30
swatgossi just need a JVM and javac now ...03:30
Dinkits like 3 secs for it to set it all up03:30
Dinkswatgoss get it from sun03:30
Dinkrun it03:30
Dink3 sec later03:30
Dinkyou have all you need03:30
swatgosswww.sun.com03:30
Jucatoswatgoss: check the link that was PM'd to you03:31
swatgossoki doki03:31
momalanyone happen to have a big list of reps for everything?03:31
Jucatomomal: more than the "official" repos03:32
momaleverything on the offical repos and others03:32
Jucatoer.. that was supposed to be a question03:32
Jucatoofficial repos are the ones that come installed03:33
Jucato!easysource03:33
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:33
Linux_GaloreI dont even do that u just downloaded 1.5 with adept and ran  sudo update-alternatives --config java03:33
Jucatoofficial repos + unofficial ones03:33
JucatoLinux_Galore: for jdk?03:33
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Linux_GaloreJucato: yes03:33
Jucatooh03:33
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Linux_Galorejava is a no brainer03:34
Jucato"no brainer"... does that mean it's for people with no brains? >:)03:34
Jucatoj/k03:34
swatgossprobably ...03:34
Linux_Galorewant hard, try getting flash 9 windows plugin working in the linux version Firefox03:34
Linux_Galoreyep I got it working03:34
swatgossdouble clic on .exe from macromedia !03:35
Linux_Galoreno use wine03:35
Jucato:)03:35
swatgossbah03:35
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Linux_Galoreyeah but flash 7 has audo lag between the voice and video03:36
Jucato3-4 years ago, I would have said that "Flash is THE future"03:36
Linux_Galoreaudio*03:36
MistaEDlinux_galore: how did you get that working? i know crossover can embed quicktime but i was never sure how exactly they did it03:36
swatgossany1 of you know a pinmod guide on P4 prescott ?03:36
Linux_GaloreMistaED: crossover can install flash 9 too03:36
Linux_GaloreMistaED: just download the flash 9 exe installer03:36
MistaEDLinux_Galore: cool, can wine do it?03:36
MistaEDok03:37
Linux_GaloreMistaED: yes it can, bit more complicated though03:37
swatgossi got a KDEWallet error ...03:37
swatgossi typed a password for Kopete03:37
swatgossand it don't recognize it anymore03:37
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swatgossi used "PACES%" inside ...03:37
swatgossSPACES03:37
Linux_GaloreMistaED: I also found with youtube you have to run at least one video with the flash 7 plugin then install the wine plugin for flash 9 and it works03:37
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Jucatoswatgoss: which password is it asking for? for the password to your wallet or for Kopete (if you set it not to remember passwords)03:38
swatgossJucato i want to connect to a protocol, it ask me to open a wallet or something03:38
swatgossi don't know how to say it in english03:39
Linux_GaloreMistaED: if you try and go straight to youtube with flash 9 setup it wont let you play anything03:39
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swatgossJucato the password that protect my account password :p03:39
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Jucatoswatgoss: it's a password for your wallet, which holds the passwords for other stuff that you might have added03:39
Linux_Galoreswatgoss: you forget the kwallet apssword ??03:39
Linux_Galorepassword*03:40
swatgossnot really03:40
swatgossi can't type it again ...03:40
swatgosscuz i used spaces03:40
swatgossit shoed me *03:40
swatgossbut now when i retype spaces03:40
Linux_Galoreswatgoss: ?? spaces, no one uses spaces03:40
swatgosserror -9 if i'm right03:40
Linux_Galoreswatgoss: have to remove the kwallet setup file03:41
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momalare there any reps that have the k8-smp kernel's in them? because no matter what i do they never show up >_<03:41
swatgosshow can i reset03:41
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swatgossbut i didnt find it ... u know where it is ?03:41
swatgossmomal do K8-smp exist ?03:42
momalhttp://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/allpackages | according to that it does03:42
momalbut still wont show in adept03:42
swatgossO_o03:42
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momallinux-amd64-k8-smp (2.6.15.25) [restricted]  [security]  Complete Linux kernel on AMD K8 SMP | thats what some site told me i should use for amd x203:43
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Galathalioncan anyone help me install flashplug-ind for firefox?03:43
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peter_is er iemand die nederlands kan lullen?03:44
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swatgossLinux_Galore u know where kwallet setup file is ?03:45
swatgossor just the command to run KDEWallet03:45
swatgossi will suppress account03:45
MistaEDLinux_Galore: ok done, so now do i just uninstall the linux flash player 7 so firefox picks the wine flash 9?03:45
swatgossand create another03:45
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Linux_GaloreMistaED: you install flash 7 first then go to youtube03:46
Linux_GaloreMistaED: your after the cookie03:46
Linux_GaloreMistaED: run a video03:46
MistaEDdone03:46
Linux_GaloreMistaED: then install the flash 9 exe installer03:46
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Linux_Galorecodeweavers is the easy option03:47
MistaEDyep i used crossover office 503:47
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Linux_GaloreMistaED: that it once codeweavers has installed it just make sure the plugin is ticked in the plugins tab and your off03:47
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swatgossi used sudo apt-get install java5-bin java5-jdk, will it be enough ?03:48
Linux_GaloreMistaED: when you go to you tube it plays flash videos with flash 9 without the audio lag03:48
Linux_GaloreMistaED: you have to do it in that order or it doesnt work03:49
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MistaEDLinux_Galore: sure, so now do i restart firefox?03:49
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Linux_GaloreMistaED: yep03:49
Linux_GaloreMistaED: should now start using the flash 9 plugin03:49
MistaEDLinux_Galore: success! cheers man03:50
Linux_GaloreMistaED: youtube thinks you have a working flash setup because the cookie says so and it works03:50
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Linux_GaloreMistaED: I show the other Linux geeks flash 9 running in firefox and there stunned lol03:51
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swatgosshummm ...03:52
swatgossjava help ?03:52
MistaEDLinux_Galore: i was just trying to find out how to do this the other day but i totally missed crossover having flash listed in there :P03:52
Linux_Galoreswatgoss:  remove ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.kwl03:52
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Linux_Galoreswatgoss: should reset the password03:52
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swatgossand what is the command to RUN kdewallet ?03:52
en1gmasup all03:52
MistaEDLinux_Galore: hmm, with crossover it defaults to oss, could i just type in alsa there to use alsa or is it something else?03:53
swatgossshould try tu delete account03:53
Linux_GaloreMistaED: yeah but there is a method to the madness, if you dont do it in the correct order it doesnt work properly03:53
MistaEDi know wine runs a whole lot better using alsa03:53
swatgossbefore trying brutal deletion :p03:53
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Linux_GaloreMistaED: you have to visti all the sites with flash 7 first then install the flash 9 plugin03:53
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momalanyone know the rep to add for: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/base/linux-amd64-k8-smp03:55
Linux_Galoreswatgoss:  mv .kde/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.kwl .kde/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.kwl_bak03:55
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Kiongkumv is like cut?03:55
MistaEDLinux_Galore: you know the sound option in crossover has it defaulted to oss? that's causing it to have crap sound for me03:55
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omarhola a todos, tengo un pequeo problemita , tengo archivos con  y con tilde y se muestran simbolos en vez de eso, los nuevos archivos estan bien y se graban normal, ademas mi teclado no muestra tildes,  si.que puedo hacer03:55
Linux_GaloreMistaED: I set it to alsa03:56
MistaEDjust sticking alsa in there doesn't seem to work, not sure what to put in there, i use 5.0.003:56
Linux_GaloreMistaED: works fine then03:56
Kiongku!es03:56
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:56
MistaEDhmm03:56
omarsorry wrong language03:56
omar:)03:56
swatgossLinux_Galore ok, will do it later, but now i got a bigger problem with sun-java-jre ...03:56
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Kiongkulol03:56
gubatron_omar says he has files with weird the enhie character and he gets symbols03:56
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Kiongkumay be i should learn es..03:56
swatgossLinux_Galore u know how to delete undeletable installed packages ?03:57
omargubatron: thanx buddy03:57
en1gmaok guys: idk if you rem me BUT i have a big problem. im the guy that can not get any linux installed with this newer rig..i think i got it down to 3 distros (kanotix, kubuntu and gentoo)03:57
swatgosscan't with apt-get or with ADEPT03:57
Linux_Galoreswatgoss: two step just get adept to install the packages and then run sudo update-alternatives --config java03:57
Kiongkuen1gma: hmm?03:57
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Linux_Galoreswatgoss: you dont have the repo's setup then if you cant see it03:57
en1gmai have an NF4 mb that has onboard nvraid (fake raid) 4 sata drives in a raid 0 array that has 2 partitions. (1 for windows (ntfs) and 1 for future linux)03:58
en1gmawill kanotix see my hd upon a fresh install03:58
en1gmaor kubuntu03:58
en1gmaor gentoo03:58
swatgossLinux_Galore i got the repos, i just installed it with apt-get, but now i wanna delete them :p03:58
Kiongkulol (fake raid) ..03:58
en1gmawhat do i have to do to get this working03:58
Linux_Galoreswatgoss: adept can remove and install03:58
swatgossLinux_Galore really stupid, but they are i386 and i got a i586 version ...03:58
en1gmaat this point i dont even care what distro works i just want one that "DOES" work03:58
Linux_Galoreswatgoss: shouldnt matter03:59
swatgossLinux_Galore i know but now he don't want to remove :p03:59
Linux_Galoreswatgoss: did you run sudo update-alternatives --config java03:59
swatgossdon't think03:59
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Linux_Galoreswatgoss: installing the packages doesnt setup java that command does03:59
en1gmaso if someone could help you will have my ex-wife lick your nut sack03:59
en1gmayou = me03:59
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en1gmayou = i03:59
en1gmai just waking up04:00
en1gmashes good looking to04:00
swatgosspermission denied on option 304:00
swatgosswith update alternative04:01
Linux_Galoreswatgoss: means you dont have it installed04:01
en1gmashe has herpes so idk04:01
swatgossjust run apt-get install sun-java5-jre04:01
swatgossand now update alternative, option 304:02
Linux_Galoreswatgoss: thats jre04:02
en1gmacome on guys let me help you help me get this installed and be done04:02
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swatgossexactly i ran sun-java5-bin and sun-java5-jdk04:02
Linux_Galoreswatgoss: go into adept and type in java04:02
swatgossi miss something ?04:02
en1gmagot to hurry though cause i gonna wake and bake soon04:02
swatgossdid it04:02
momalgarr this sucks they have packages that you can't even get through repos or wont even freeken show them GARRR04:02
momaland im sick to death of windows so i aint going back04:02
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JucatoLinux_Galore: do not use Adept to install sun-java5 packages04:02
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Linux_Galoreswatgoss: down the bottom of the list install all the 1.5 java stuff04:03
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mrbrdohi04:03
flaviooi04:03
swatgossit tells me i got 4 java installed bin demo jdk jre04:03
Linux_GaloreJucato: works fine if you read the version info04:03
en1gmawake and bake = get wasted so hurry up04:03
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mrbrdowhen i try to do aptitude install linux-686, it wants to install "linux-image-2.6.15-23-686", but 2.6.15.27 is already available :S04:03
Linux_GaloreJucato: just because some idiots dont read the info doesnt mean it doesnt work04:03
KiongkuJucato: yo04:03
en1gmafor the love of god someone help[04:04
JucatoLinux_Galore: you won't be able to accept the License Agreement in Adept, right?04:04
JucatoKiongku: hi04:04
swatgossLinux_Galore the one i don't got are source plugin fonts doc04:04
Linux_GaloreJucato: yes you can when it installs click on details04:04
JucatoLinux_Galore: it doesn't work. it's a bug in Adept04:04
Linux_GaloreJucato: it shows the license approval04:04
mrbrdocan someone explain why linux-686 includes 2.6.15-23 instead of 2.6.15-27?04:04
Jucatoit just shows, but it won't be able to accept it or anything04:05
Linux_GaloreJucato: it works, "if you click on details in the install window"04:05
Linux_GaloreJucato: what happens people dont click on details and thus miss the license section04:05
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JucatoLinux_Galore: I know that it shows, but you won't be able to user cursor keys to accept the license04:05
Linux_GaloreJucato: worked fine for me04:05
mrbrdothere seems to be no -27 restricted modules.. how so?04:05
JucatoLinux_Galore: are you sure it was sun-java5-* ?04:06
Linux_GaloreJucato: yep04:06
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swatgossJucato Linux_Galore I install every java5-XXX ?04:06
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momalyea doesn't seem to be any amd k8 kernels either even though its listed in the packages on the website >_>04:06
Linux_Galoreswatgoss: no just the 1.5 stuff towards the end04:06
JucatoLinux_Galore: dunno, it never worked for anyone except you it seems04:07
mrbrdoanyone?04:07
mrbrdo2.6.15-27 restriced modules not available.. why?04:07
Linux_GaloreJucato: worked for me 46 times in a row on different machines04:07
Jucatomrbrdo: make sure that the "restricted" component of "dapper-security" is enabled or is present04:07
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Linux_GaloreJucato: then again I install the java fonts stuff04:08
mrbrdoJucato: apt-cache shows them for 2.6.15-23 though :S04:08
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pussfellerfor some reason, I am getting double clicks in kde when I click once04:08
pussfellerthis is driving me nuts04:08
jasondotgnuHi, is there something wrong with the alsa dirver (libasound) in current dapper repos?04:08
en1gmacan someone help pretty please04:08
Jucatomrbrdo: like I said, make sure that "restricted" is enabled in dapper-security04:08
swatgossJucato Linux_Galore i got only 8 sun-java5-*** jdk/jre/demo/bin are installed and source/plugins/font/doc arent04:08
en1gmai would rally like to get any distro installed04:08
jasondotgnualsamixer: relocation error: alsamixer: symbol snd_mixer_selem_get_playback_dB, version ALSA_0.9 not defined in file libasound.so.2 with link time reference04:08
jasondotgnuI just got this message, and my sound card doesn't work at all.04:09
en1gmaplease please please please04:09
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Jucatopussfeller: KDE is set to single click by default. meaning single click = double click04:09
Linux_Galoreswatgoss: make sure you click on details when it installs or you can accept the license04:09
en1gmaplease please please04:09
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Linux_Galorecant*04:09
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en1gmawhy04:09
mrbrdoJucato:  should i change deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main to deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted ?04:09
Jucatomrbrdo: yes04:09
swatgossLinux_Galore i need them ALL ?04:09
mrbrdoand do i need to make the same for dapper-security universe?04:09
Linux_Galoreswatgoss: not really i just cant remember the file names of the top of my head04:10
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momalJucato: thats what I have already yet doesn't show the k8 kernels when it has the package listed on there site :S04:10
Jucatomrbrdo: no. only for main04:10
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ikamhello on kopete workin webcam on live dc?04:10
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Linux_Galoreswatgoss: the 1.5 stuff is all bunched together04:10
mrbrdoJucato: ok thanks04:10
swatgossLinux_Galore O_o i don't see a licence in details ...04:10
swatgossok will see for 1.504:11
Linux_Galoreswatgoss: its towards the botom when you search for java04:11
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swatgossLinux_Galore at the bottom i only got java5 stuff04:12
swatgossno 1.5 ...04:12
swatgossnormally its the same thing ...04:12
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Linux_Galoreswatgoss: hold on04:12
Linux_Galoreswatgoss: let me swap machines04:12
swatgossLinux_Galore its ok04:13
swatgossi removed all i needed to ...04:13
swatgossthx :p04:13
swatgosswas a problem with dependencies04:13
swatgossneed every java components to delete them04:13
Linux_Galoreswatgoss: aah04:13
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Linux_Galoreswatgoss: yeah I deleted all the 1.4 stuff04:14
swatgossnow i can try to install the .bin with my CD :p04:14
Linux_Galoreswatgoss: and the gnu stuff04:14
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swatgossnext step ... using a .bin to install java stuff ... when i see how i noobed with adept ^^'04:15
swatgossi'm scared04:15
Linux_Galoreswatgoss: yeah I basically install all the sun-java5 packages incuding the fonts04:16
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zaggynlHrm, does anyone know why Ktorrent 2.02 occasionally uses 100% cpu for periods of time?04:16
Linux_Galoreswatgoss: from memory I did the fonts first04:16
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Linux_Galoregnomefreak: yeah install the wrong crappy version for me04:16
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gnomefreakLinux_Galore: easy way just install sun-java5-plugin   it grabs font packages -bin -jre04:17
swatgossi won't have the latest version, but will contain exemples from my book ...04:17
gnomefreakLinux_Galore: wrong crappy version?04:17
Linux_Galoregnomefreak: went and installed the 1.4 version04:17
gnomefreakah04:17
Linux_Galoregod knows why04:17
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Linux_Galorehad to remove it then install the sun-java5 version04:18
gnomefreakif anyone does locate java  with java installed you will see 1.404:18
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momaldoes anyone here have an amd 64? if so what kernel arch do you use ?04:20
Linux_Galoregnomefreak: or just type java -version04:20
swatgossnew issue ... got a "jdk-1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin" and i never compiled anything before ...04:20
Dr_Willismomal,  i use the 686 kernel04:20
swatgossFougasse time !!!04:20
Linux_Galoreweird mandriva has a newer version of java than kubuntu04:20
gnomefreakLinux_Galore: to change java -version  use sudo update-alternatives --config java04:20
Linux_Galoregnomefreak: I know that04:21
Linux_Galoregnomefreak: I posted that same line 15 minutes ago04:21
momalDr_willis: even for amd64?04:21
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Dr_Willismomal,  I dont use the 64bit distro.. so i use the 686 kernel on my 32bit install.04:22
Linux_Galoresame here I use the i686 kernel04:22
Linux_Galoreonly down side is I have to manually install nvidia again on each update04:23
swatgossLinux_Galore gnomefreak lol :p04:23
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Linux_Galorekubuntu runs very fast on my P4 2.8Ghz machone, with windows its not fast at all04:25
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momalLinux_galore: that wont be a prob for me since i wont update that often but right now I have to reinstall the nvidia drivers every time i reboot the damn box04:25
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Linux_Galoremomal: should read the logs see whats stuffing up04:25
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Linux_Galoremomal:  under /var/logs04:26
momalthey dont' say anything.. its just each time i reboot and check what X has to say when i goto manual start it says about api mismatch between nvidia kernel and X module04:26
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Linux_Galoremomal: install an older version of the nvidia driver04:28
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momaltried that does same thing04:28
Linux_GaloreNVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7676-pkg1.run04:28
Linux_Galoreis what I use, works fine04:29
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fracomomal: sorry for jumping in this, sounds like the issue with the kernel modules update problem ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257459)?04:29
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momalLinux_Galore: thats bit old will that support my GR7800gt?04:30
momalGF7800gt**04:30
Linux_Galoremomal: I have a GF404:30
momalfraco: going to look at that link now04:30
Linux_Galoremomal: you need a 8*** series driver04:30
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Linux_Galoremomal: read the link04:31
momalnope thats not the prob im having :S04:32
fracook sorry then04:32
en1gmacan someone help me04:32
en1gmaplease04:33
swatgossexpose problem :p04:33
swatgoss(s) ?04:33
momalits fine anyone trying to help i give thanks to lol... my prob is | I start up the box it freezes on kubuntu loading screen and X doesn't start. I install nvidia drivers from console. restart X and kdm all works fine. I reboot and have to do it all over again.|04:33
Linux_Galoremomal: if you change the driver in xorg.conf to nv does it work fine04:33
en1gmai have NF4 mboard that has onboard nvraid (fake raid/software raid) my 4 sata drives are in a raid0 array. i have 2 partitions on em (1 for windows and 1 for future install of linux)04:34
en1gmahow do i install04:34
Dr_Willisen1gma,  install what?04:34
en1gmakubuntu04:34
swatgosslinux ? :p04:34
en1gmaanything04:34
en1gmaidk as long as its linux (well not redhat FC)04:34
momalhe is having troubl einstalling linux but hasn't said what errors he gets or that lol04:34
swatgossdo u tested ubiquity detection ?04:34
Dr_Willisi wouldent be using the fakeraid stuff.04:34
en1gmait dont see the array04:35
momalLinux_Galore: umm will try that once the 686 kernel has downloaded going to try it if still can't get stuff to work04:35
Dr_Willisset up some of them for windows.. and leave a single HD just for linux.04:35
Linux_Galoreswatgoss:  edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file  look for a line with Driver "nvidia"     change it to "nv"04:35
en1gmai have no choice it is the hardware i have04:35
swatgosshum04:35
en1gmaim not breaking the array up04:35
swatgossi got a Radeon mobility :p04:35
Dr_Willisen1gma,  not sure  how well supported the nvraid  is.04:35
en1gmawell i prey to god someone can help...cause i like linux been using slackware for long time now04:36
Dr_Willisi know my onboard raid was more hassle then its worth.04:36
swatgossdo the RAID is on a ddicated controller ?04:36
en1gmabut im ready to switch distro if i cant install it04:36
Dr_WillisYou got slackware installed on that system? or have?04:36
en1gmathe raid is on an nvidia radi controller (on board)04:36
Dr_Willisor any othe rdisrto?04:36
en1gmai cant install any linux right now04:36
swatgossSilicon Image ?04:36
en1gmanothing sees the array04:36
en1gmanvraid04:36
swatgossthe chip04:36
Linux_Galoreswatgoss: I have some problems with nvidia last week, turned out I had the wrong version of the linux kernel drivers for the kernel04:36
en1gmathe chip is called nvraid04:36
swatgossLinux_Galore I DON T HAVE PROBLEmE04:37
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swatgossLinux_Galore with nvidia :p04:37
momallol!04:37
mrbrdowhen i run aptitude update, i get "The following packages have been kept back:" then a list of 30+ packages.. why are they kept back and how to update them anyhow?04:37
swatgossLinux_Galore say it to momal04:37
Dr_Willisen1gma,  i would say check the ubuntu forums/wiki page - see if others are using a similer setup and what they had to do.04:37
en1gmaamng04:37
Linux_Galoremomal : I have some problems with nvidia last week, turned out I had the wrong version of the linux kernel drivers for the kernel04:37
Linux_Galoreheh heh04:37
swatgossLinux_Galore i got a Radeon Mobility 9200 ... and no problem with my 6600GT AGP on my desk PC04:37
Linux_Galoretime for bed04:37
en1gmadoes the newest amd64 version have DM built in04:37
en1gmaand dmraid on the dvd04:38
swatgoss4:38pm here :p good time for bed too ! ^^04:38
en1gmaif dand FC5 can do it there has to be away to do it to a good distro04:38
mrbrdowhen i run aptitude update, i get "The following packages have been kept back:" then a list of 30+ packages.. why are they kept back and how to update them anyhow?04:39
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mrbrdoupgrade, sorry04:39
mrbrdonot update04:39
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en1gmaFC5 can do it other distros can to right?04:39
Jucatomrbrdo: were you able to find the linux-restricted-modules you were looking for?04:39
mrbrdoJucato: yeah i got that sorted out04:39
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mrbrdoJucato: i added a few more repos now, and now all those packages are kept back, dunno why04:40
Jucatowhat repos did you add?04:40
Linux_Galoreen1gma: yes there is dmraid04:40
fracomrbrdo: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/6904:40
en1gmathere is?04:40
fracotry apt-get dist-upgrade04:40
en1gmado you think it will pick my drives up?04:40
mrbrdoJucato: if i try with adept-update though, it does say upgrade, but it wants to install some packages which i don't know why (xmms, don't have it now, some like that too)04:40
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Linux_Galoreen1gma: you can see the answers to your questions on the ubuntu home page04:40
en1gmak 1 sec04:40
Jucatomrbrdo: what repos did you add?04:40
Linux_Galoreen1gma: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=dmraid&version=dapper&arch=amd64'04:41
momalpc booted up fine just now with bad drivers >_<04:41
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Linux_Galoreen1gma: remove the comma on the end of that url04:41
momalhttp://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/base/linux-image-2.6.15-26-amd64-k8 | that is it possible to get that using apt-get? because it wont show and im pretty sure i have the rep for it.04:41
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en1gmaLinux_Galore what am i looking for on the home page04:42
Linux_Galoreen1gma: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=dmraid&version=dapper&arch=amd6404:42
Linux_Galoreklick on the link04:42
Linux_Galoreheh heh04:42
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en1gmaLinux_Galore does it auto setup the scripts so it will see the drive upon install or is there somewhere between installing and computer being off that i can make adjustments04:43
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en1gma?04:45
en1gmanetsplit?04:46
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momalgarr this sucks im going to bed 12:46am... maybe i can think a bit more in the morning to figure this crap out so much for changing to a gf7800gt, amdx2 4200 and 2gb and doesn't even work properly >_<04:47
TheGateKeeperjust done an update and get this error with Flash install ----> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24389  is there a way to reinstall the previous version?04:47
mrbrdoJucato: sry, didn't notice before.. i added some more using www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic04:47
en1gmaLinux_Galore where are you04:47
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SillyZgmorning04:49
Jucatomrbrdo: I'm guessing you probably added the "Kubuntu.org packages for the latest KDE version"?04:49
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fildoJucato: hey mate you alive?04:50
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Jucatoyep.. still alive04:51
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fildoi have a tuff issue04:52
fildon wondering if you could give me ur opinion04:53
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josh_what up people.... how do i delete the command history?04:53
swatgossCTRL+ALT+BackSpace ?04:54
fildohehe ok, well i have been donated a 733, so i rebuilt it n installed dapper04:54
Dink.bashhistory maybe ?04:54
josh_no like the bash command line lhistory04:54
Dink.bash_history maybe ?04:54
fildobut when i boot i get this error  "bug: soft lockup detected on CPU#0" >04:54
Jucatofildo: tuff.. I have no idea.. :(04:54
fildoyeh04:55
fildoi have 3 alternate cpu's04:55
Dinkjosh, .bash_history04:55
fildoi have changed them, still error04:55
fildogoogled, n they reckons its some interupt issue04:55
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fildobut i got no idea ..04:55
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Jucatojosh_: "history -c"04:56
swatgosshow to install a .bin jdk pack ?04:57
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Dinkjosh_, if you want to remove it compeltly and forever... ln -s /dev/null ~/.bash_history04:58
swatgosssudo rm -R / ?04:59
swatgosswill remove history too :p04:59
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v3ctorcommands like those are not for joking04:59
josh_yeah along with the system04:59
swatgosswill it really work ?04:59
josh_try it and see05:00
swatgossno security ?05:00
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Jucatoclear bash history = "history -c"05:00
josh_Jucato: tried that... didn't work... so i just rm'ed the file05:00
Jucatostrange... it worked here...05:00
josh_it just showed me the history starting with line 905:01
Jucatohuh??05:01
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josh_lol05:01
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Jucatohistory -c ???05:01
josh_ill show you the output of history -c05:02
Jucatono quotes05:02
Jucatonvm...05:02
swatgoss... bad question: do you prefer "luck a dick" or "lick a duck" ?05:02
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Dinkjosh_ do what I typed and it will remove it forever :s05:02
Dinkand never get history again05:02
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josh_nah i still want history just want to clean it up alittle05:03
Dinkedit the file :p05:03
josh_make it easier for me to find the commands i use05:03
josh_:)05:03
swatgossspeaking about remove, rm have an "security rewrite" option ?05:03
josh_its not rewrite05:03
josh_its remove05:04
josh_and yes05:04
josh_if you use the -f switch it wont ask05:04
josh_if you leave out the -f then it will ask you about everyfile you are about to delete05:04
josh_hey05:05
josh_does ubuntu support direct frame buffer yet?05:05
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josh_i wana get quingy working but so far i haven't been able to get directfb installed05:05
swatgossuh O_o i was thinking about a secure erasing05:05
swatgossOS write random data on erased file location05:05
swatgossor something like that05:06
josh_not that i am aware of05:06
v3ctorswatgoss: there are tools for that05:06
josh_im sure some application out there can do it05:06
josh_but its not build into the os05:06
v3ctorwipe and srm do secure rm05:06
swatgossv3ctor yep but wondering if one of them was "inside" the kernel05:06
TheGateKeeperanyone know who to install a previous version of something after an update?05:06
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v3ctorswatgoss: no05:07
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josh_TheGateKeeper: look in your dpkg folder and see if you still have the original05:07
josh_im not aware of linux having a "rollback" option05:07
JucatoTheGateKeeper: flashplugin-nonfree?05:07
josh_lol Jucato that happen alot here?05:07
TheGateKeeperJucato: yep05:08
Jucatoyes, bugged update in dapper-backports05:08
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josh_either that or your psychic :P either way... whats up my new best friend05:08
josh_lol05:08
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JucatoYou can downgrade to the earlier dapper version, but chances are Flash won't work05:08
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Jucatoso I was told to download and install the .deb package from Edgy05:09
josh_why not just have the browser do it? just have him get the plugin from mozilla05:09
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Jucatojosh_: because it doesn't work that way in Linux05:09
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josh_sure it does... have him go to a site with flash, it will ask about installing missing stuff... do a manual install05:10
JucatoTheGateKeeper: if you really need flash now, download the deb from one of these mirrors: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmultiverse%2Ff%2Fflashplugin-nonfree%2Fflashplugin-nonfree_7.0.68~ubuntu2_i386.deb&md5sum=c464e3e4d41a9305481a7d5574dcdb0d&arch=i386&type=main05:10
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Jucatojosh_: 100% sure about that?05:10
josh_not really :)05:10
josh_;P05:10
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josh_but it worked for me if i recall correctly05:11
josh_i have flash on mine....05:11
Jucatojosh_: used something like Automatix?05:11
josh_eww... no05:11
josh_lol i heard bad things baout that one05:11
josh_security issues and such05:11
Jucatobecause I'm sure as hell that Flash can't be installed that way05:11
josh_really...05:12
josh_now i have to check05:12
Jucatoprobably on wine yes, but not in native Linux05:12
josh_whats a site with flash? www.flash.com?05:12
Jucatonewgrounds.com, youtube,05:12
nenad__#neno05:13
josh_going to youtube05:13
mrbrdowhen i do aptitude upgrade, it says that amarok and amarok-xine will be kept back.. when i try in adept-update, and request upgrade, it says BREAK (upgrade) under Requested05:14
josh_mrbrdo: i am having same problem it seems :)05:14
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mrbrdois it possible the package is broken?05:14
Jucatough.... source-o-matic....05:14
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mrbrdoi used source-o-matic05:15
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josh_i think it might have to be that the security code changed or the repo addy is now incorect05:15
TheGateKeeperthanx Jucato :-) can you please remind me the command to install it, failing memory grrr05:15
josh_lol yep Jucato05:15
josh_sudo dpkg -i file05:15
JucatoTheGateKeeper: sudo dpkg -i <.deb name>05:15
mrbrdoJucato: i think this was written out before i added the source-o-matic sources.list though05:15
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mrbrdoJucato: i mean, it didn't want to update those packages before either05:16
josh_youtube aint loading for me.... :( like the site is busy or something... ill try newground05:16
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TheGateKeeperthanx Jucato :-) I am getting old & irritating :-)05:16
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mrbrdoand why does adept-update want to install "libgpod0, libifp4, libsdl1.2debian, libsdl1.2debian-alsa, python-qt3", but APT-GET\Aptitude don't mention these packages at all05:17
josh_newground.com? or newgrounds.com?05:17
wedgeVwhy do i always get a bunch of 404 http errors when updating with aptitude? is my mirror syncing to slow?05:17
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mrbrdowedgeV: i think u have an error in sources.list05:17
wedgeVactually, not _my_ mirror, but at.archive.ubuntu.com05:17
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visik7I wonder how kubuntu reach a stable version in a month from now05:18
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mrbrdovisik7: u mean edgy?05:18
wedgeVmrbrdo: well it works, it just doesnt work for some packages, when i wait a day, the packages download fine05:18
josh_my flash works...05:18
visik7mrbrdo: yes05:18
visik7mrbrdo: I've installed knot305:18
visik7I know is "alpha stage"05:18
wedgeVmust be that the mirror is updating their package list before they even have the new packages05:18
mrbrdowedgeV: try a different mirror from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive05:18
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wedgeVthanks05:19
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mrbrdonp, just change the urls at.archive.ubuntu.com to the mirror url u choose05:19
visik7but from here to a stable product there is a long way05:19
mrbrdoleave secruity.ubuntu alone..05:19
TheGateKeeperJucato: hay I found 'install' on the konqueror right hand click menu, wooow I can be a real lazy pig now :-)05:19
mrbrdoJucato: and why does adept-update want to install "libgpod0, libifp4, libsdl1.2debian, libsdl1.2debian-alsa, python-qt3", but APT-GET\Aptitude don't mention these packages at all05:19
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mrbrdobrb05:21
nenad__ik05:21
josh_ok correction it wasn't working05:21
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nenad__#neno05:21
josh_and all i did was download the linux package from flash and then ran their installer05:22
josh_now i have flash05:22
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mrbrdoso, why does adept-update want to install those packages? any ideas?05:25
Jucatobecause that's part of updating05:25
mrbrdobut apt-get doesn't say anything about those packages05:25
JucatoI mean upgrading05:25
wedgeVmrbrdo: maybe they are suggested?05:26
mrbrdoapart from amok and amok-xine, apt-get says i am up-to-date05:26
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mrbrdowedgeV: dunno, apt-get doesn't say anything about them05:26
wedgeVaptitude always shows a list of packages that are suggested to be installed, maybe adept install them by default?05:27
wedgeVjust a guess05:27
mrbrdowell, aptitude shows when u install something05:27
mrbrdonot AFTER05:27
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mrbrdoit doesn't keep saying x was recommended for y05:28
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trappistwhat's a really lightweight audio player I can associate with .wavs so I can listen to my voip voicemail from kmail?  right now I'm using mplayer, but that doesn't give me control to adjust volume, pause, stop etc.05:32
mrbrdowhen i start downloading a package by aptitude, and cancel it in the middle, i can resume it later.. how to clean such partially-downloaded packages05:34
wedgeVmrbrdo: /var/cache/apt/packages05:34
trappistmrbrdo: sudo apt-get clean (that will also clean out completely downloaded package files that have been installed05:34
wedgeVoh, ok05:35
trappist"kaboodle" was the answer to my question.05:35
trappistkaboodle - light, embedded media player for KDE05:36
trappistI love there to always be an asnwer05:36
trappist*answer05:36
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trappistcan't change volume from kaboodle, but there's about 10 other places I can click to do that05:37
mrbrdotrappist: thx05:38
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Kennielo, I've installed ipw3945 and it runs (ps aux | grep ipw return 2 daemons..) but it seems kubuntu still doesnt find my networkcard on newest kernel (2.6.15-26) any suggestions?05:38
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h3sp4wnmrbrdo: sudo apt-get autoclean (will clean all packages except that latest ones)05:39
trappistKennie: is that like the next generation of the ipw2200?05:39
trappistKennie: if so, it could be that the 2.6.15 kernel doesn't support it05:39
mrbrdohm, after updating the kernel, my sound doesn't work anymore (on either of my sound cards) :/05:39
KennieI've got a Dell 6400 and google says thats the one I need05:40
host-onehi05:40
mrbrdoalsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device05:40
mrbrdoaplay -l does list them05:40
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trappistmrbrdo: what does asoundconf list say?05:40
mrbrdodisplays usage parameters? :P05:41
host-onewhat's the best and fast Sorting algorithm?05:41
trappistmrbrdo: are you on dapper?05:41
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mrbrdoit lists modem,V823505:41
mrbrdotrappist: yes05:41
mrbrdoit doesn't list my usb card05:41
trappistmrbrdo: and you said "asoundconf list"?05:41
mrbrdobut it does list my integrated card05:41
mrbrdoyep05:41
trappistoh usb05:41
trappistI don't know anything about that05:41
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mrbrdobut i have a normal one too05:42
wedgeVquicksort is fast05:42
mrbrdoand it doesn't work on that either05:42
trappisthost-one: if there was such a thing, it would be the only sorting algorithm.05:42
mrbrdoasoundconf is-active displays nothing05:42
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host-onetrappist : and what's your favourite sorting algorithm :P05:44
judibetBonjour tout le monde !05:44
judibetHi everybody!!05:44
host-onejudibet: only english05:44
trappisthost-one: whichever one ruby uses for .sort :)05:44
judibetIt's the same! :p05:44
JontyHow do I change my display manager05:44
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h3sp4wnJonty: depends which one you want to change to05:45
wedgeVhost-one: quicksort05:45
trappistmrbrdo: try "asoundconf set-default-card $(asoundconf list | tail -n1)"05:45
trappistJonty: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm05:45
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trappistJonty: that will let you choose from the list of installed *dms05:46
wedgeVhost-one: mergesort is also fine for the average case05:46
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JontyYeah, I want to change it to KDM, sorry05:46
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JontyAh, that's great, thanks, trappist05:47
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ElectrolyteIs there an IRC channel for Konversation? I've got a really annoying problem with it :/05:51
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fildohey guys where are ksplashscreen kept ?05:51
trappistElectrolyte: you could try #konversation, and there's a #kde, but this is probably a good place to start05:52
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ElectrolyteWell, the problem is with Konversation it's self - on any message, if Konversation isn't the active window, it flashes the task bar.05:52
ElectrolyteI've not enabled anything for it to do that :/05:52
trappistElectrolyte: you can change the global behavior of items in the taskbar, but I don't know whether konversation has a particular setting for it05:53
ElectrolyteWhere would the global setting be? It doesn't look like Konversation has it's own.05:53
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MidMarkguys, to change the panel look at the bottom in kde what I have to change? window decoration?05:55
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trappistElectrolyte: hrm, can't seem to find it myself05:55
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trappistMidMark: right-click on the panel, configure panel05:56
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MidMarktrappist: yes, but how to change to a themed one?05:57
trappistElectrolyte: are you talking about the system tray icon blinking?05:57
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ElectrolyteNo.05:57
ElectrolyteThe task tray.05:57
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morpheushi all05:57
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MidMarklike this one http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=42545&file1=42545-1.png&file2=&file3=&name=Dark+Light.+The+native+KDE+windeco.05:58
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ElectrolyteCan't find anything for this.05:59
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ElectrolyteAnd it's bugging me05:59
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|lostbyte|Smart boot manager !!06:00
trappistElectrolyte: you might try asking in #kde, but I don't see a setting for it either, so the best next step is to file a bug report06:00
ElectrolyteJust fixed it.06:00
|lostbyte|Any one used it ?06:00
trappistElectrolyte: hah.  what was it?06:00
abattoirElectrolyte: you want to remove the tasbar flashing upon an event?06:00
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ElectrolyteI simply clicked "Default" in the task bar settings :S06:00
abattoirElectrolyte: Configure Notifications?06:00
ElectrolyteEven though there's no setting for flashing it.06:00
TunaTom|lostbyte|: jeah: that's a cool thing.06:00
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Electrolyteabattoir: Not in there - it was KDE's taskbar settings, even though the option wasn't there.06:01
ElectrolyteSo strange.06:01
main2Electrolyte: why dont you use 'amsn' ?06:01
ElectrolyteDon't like it.06:01
|lostbyte|TunaTom, oh, great. i used it and its cool. But i want to write the menu to MBR. Whats that option called ?06:01
main2its very similar to msn messenger06:01
ElectrolyteKonversation does it's job, so I'll stick with it.06:01
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main2ahhhh soryr06:01
main2...06:01
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main2i was confused with kopete..06:02
Electrolyteamsn doesn't support multiple protocols the last time I used it.06:02
main2sorry..06:02
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ElectrolyteI use Kopete for 4 IM services too :P06:02
main2... kopete = :puke:06:02
Morticei use bitlbee for IM :)06:02
main2even while it supports multiple protocols06:02
ElectrolyteYeah but it does it's job for the 4 protocols that I need.06:02
main2i prefer amsn for the chitchat stuff06:02
main2bitlbee?06:02
MorticeIM to IRC gateway06:02
ElectrolyteNot had a problem with Kopete, and it has the Trillian Pro smilies.06:02
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main2Electrolyte: i dont give a **** about smilies :X06:03
main2;-))06:03
ElectrolyteI do :)06:03
ElectrolyteI had to remove my KVM switch just now since it was causing the white to turn yellow on this machine.06:03
ElectrolyteNow Linux looks better than I first installed it :/06:03
TunaTom|lostbyte|: I don't think you can do that.06:03
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main2Electrolyte: bad cables i guess?06:04
trappistElectrolyte: if you want true chat nirvana, identify your favorite irc client, and use bitlbee06:04
ElectrolyteYeah, so I've thrown it away.06:04
main2im on a kvm atm (ps2 one :( )06:04
ElectrolyteNah, I'm fine :P06:04
TunaTom|lostbyte|: Isn't this thing _just_ a bootdisk?06:04
trappistElectrolyte: bitlbee is an irc server that connects to your im accounts06:04
main2so i have one keyboard, and one monitor -> and 2 usb mices06:04
ElectrolyteI'm fine with Konversation and Kopete - I enjoy using them :] 06:04
morpheushi all....06:04
main2Electrolyte: if you ever get a new one, get a usb one..06:04
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ElectrolyteI'll get a mains-powered one next.06:05
|lostbyte|TunaTom, ahh.06:05
trappistElectrolyte: I prefer having ALL my chat in a single window - a console window, so I can run it in screen and connect to it from anywhere and never close it06:05
|lostbyte|TunaTom, ok, close call. tx06:05
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Morticetrappist is a (wo)man after my own heart.06:05
TunaTom|lostbyte|: ok.06:05
ElectrolyteKopete supports groups any way, but I prefer them being individual windows.06:05
ElectrolyteOh ok, I *HAVEN'T* fixed that task bar flashing issue :/06:06
ElectrolyteGood god, what the hell caused this06:06
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morpheusi've some problem to configure my ati x700 (on notebook) with kubuntu 6.0606:06
morpheussomeone can help me?06:06
arunkalehey people.. if i run an application from the konsole, and it starts, if i close the konsole window, the application closes too.. is there any way to get around this?06:07
XTorchedXwhat the hell06:07
XTorchedXthis looks just like XP06:07
abattoirarunkale: one of the options would be to use the KDE Run dialog(Alt+F2)06:08
trappistarunkale: nohup programname06:08
XTorchedX<-- noob06:08
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Dr_WillisYou booted to the wrong os.06:08
Dr_Willis:)06:08
XTorchedXheh06:08
arunkaletrappist: thanks! that worked06:08
Kenniebah got everything working on kubuntu except stupid wireless :P06:08
XTorchedXyou know that episode of the simpsons where they go to shelbyville06:08
XTorchedXand everything is just a little bit different06:09
XTorchedXthat's how this kubuntu live cd looks when you come from xp06:09
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Dr_Willisand.. err.. you expected it to be identical?06:10
XTorchedXno06:10
Dr_Willisor Radicially different? :P06:10
XTorchedXi expected it to be foreign06:10
Dr_Williswhy. :P06:10
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XTorchedXand it's good a freaking start bar06:10
fildohey guys can anyone tell me where the ksplashscreen are stored ?06:10
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XTorchedXbecause the last not-windows os i used was freebsd 4 or something06:10
XTorchedXand i set it up myself06:11
|lostbyte|Can any one tell me, why this ant possible. "Writing a bootable image to a usb stick" ?06:11
XTorchedXso it looked like a gaping ass06:11
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main2in what dir is OpenSSL installed ?06:11
TunaTomfildo: try /usr/share/apps/ksplash/Themes06:11
Dr_Willis|lostbyte|,  a bootable cd - has files in a special area, (a boot floppy image) that lets it load. From what ive read on the dsl, and other linux-on-a-usb-stick pages - a similer trick is done with them.06:12
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Dr_Willisand the different usb sticks got different sizes/cyl/sectors info - like hard drives do.06:12
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|lostbyte|Dr_Willis, sepcial area..k, Is there a method you know on how to boot an image from a usb stick ? and yes i have the option in da BIOS.06:14
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main2checking for OpenSSL directory... configure: error: Could not find a linkable OpenSSL. You can specify an explicit path using --with-ssl-dir06:14
main2what path should i provide?06:14
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trappist|lostbyte|: the boot image has to have support for all the usb filesystem goodness built into the kernel, or into the initrd06:15
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Dr_Willis|lostbyte|,  i had DSL (damn small linux) doing it once. for a Ubuntu Install to a usb device.. theres some other things that need to be done.   the Ubuntu Hacks book had a chapter on that.06:17
Dr_Willis|lostbyte|,  what exactly are you referingto when you say an 'image;06:17
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Kenniedoes linux/ubuntu has support for WPA2 yet?06:19
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|lostbyte|Dr_Willis, an image, like an iso or a linux rescue disk image or one of those netboot images.06:20
Kennieasume as yes :P06:20
|lostbyte|i was wanting to write them on a usbstick so i can tell it where the iso is. to install.06:20
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Dr_WillisIve seen no way to directly copu a .iso image to a usb drive. or hard drive and boot from it.  could be ive just not noticed a way to do it.06:20
Dr_WillisThe iso to usb install's ive seen involove mounting the iso file and copying the files over the the usb stick, then some other tweaks.06:21
swatgoss2 questions this time06:21
|lostbyte|let me check a sec, i seen it some place.. but really didt understand. be right back..06:21
trappistI would expect something like 'dd if=/path/to/image.iso of=/dev/sda' to work (where sda is the device of the usb stick)06:21
TunaTomswatgoss: #1?06:21
Dr_Willissome live cd's include a 'install to usb stick' feature - ive noticed06:21
swatgosshow do i compile/install my jdk from the .bin on my CD ...06:21
Dr_Willistrappist,  ive never seen it done that way.06:22
swatgossand 2nd, what is the plugin needed to "activate" msn audio conversation on aMSN/Kopete06:22
|lostbyte|trappist, yes, i was thinking the same thing. But is that possible ?06:22
TunaTomswatgoss: sudo sh /path/to/cd/jsdk.12318.bin06:22
trappistswatgoss: once you set up your repos, you can just sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre06:22
fildoTunaTom: thnx06:22
trappistswatgoss: or -jdk as appropriate06:22
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swatgossno repos :p06:22
TunaTomfildo: what didi I do?06:22
trappistor use make-jpkg on the .bin to turn it into a .deb06:22
Dr_Willisjust booting off a usb hard drive. takes a little work under ubuntu as well.06:22
Dr_Willisaparently the correct usb modules are not in the default initrd.  ( i recall)06:23
swatgosstrappist wondering something like that06:23
swatgosssudo make-j(d?)pkg jdk1.5.bin06:23
TunaTomswatgoss: you want it to stay under package management or have it "just installed"?06:23
swatgosshummm06:24
swatgossdon't really think i understand :p06:24
swatgossi have a CD with a .bin jdk, ready to compile or something06:24
swatgossi will copy it on my hdd06:25
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swatgossmake a .deb or something and install it i thnik (never done it before)06:25
trappistswatgoss: you would say something like make-jpkg filename.bin06:25
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TunaTomswatgoss: you want to be able to apt-get  remove it?06:25
swatgossisn't make-dpkg ?06:25
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trappistswatgoss: ah, here it is: 'fakeroot make-jpkg filename.bin'06:25
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trappistswatgoss: not in this case06:25
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trappistswatgoss: this is a special tool specifically for making java packages06:26
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swatgossok, and for apt-get ... don't really matter for me06:26
trappistwhy06:26