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horacio	lupine_85: and if you dont know about what are you speacking, shut up	12:11
horacio	:)	12:12
Hawkwind	Xcalibur: ipkungfu is a great firewall	12:12
lupine_85	hehe, love you too	12:12
Hawkwind	Xcalibur: It's available with apt-get too.	12:12
lupine_85	you're right, it isn't a distro	12:12
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Zaire	lupine_85: http://pastebin.ca/179095	12:12
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Xcalibur	I just typed in sudo apt get install firestarter, it's installing, if I don't get it to work, I'll go with ipkungfu	12:13
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Zaire	if you want a distro there's also smoothwall	12:13
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lupine_85	Zaire: [/usr/src/linux/include] is wrong. It should be /usr/src/linux-2.6.15-27-386/include	12:13
keldon85	!java	12:13
ubotu	To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository	12:13
Zaire	however its for a dedicated box to be used as a hardware firewall	12:13
lupine_85	the "linux" symlink is deprecated, and shouldn't be used	12:13
Zaire	ah ic I try lol	12:14
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wooptydoo	Anyone get XGL working?	12:14
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wooptydoo	https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl?highlight=%28xgl%29	12:14
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wooptydoo	is what I am following	12:14
lupine_85	#ubuntu-xgl for that though	12:14
Zaire	me tried not so successful lol	12:14
keldon85	hi, i have noticed a serious error in the instructions for https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories	12:15
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lupine_85	good fun, but eats RAM like it's muesli	12:15
wooptydoo	And it aint working	12:15
wooptydoo	got another site I can go to?	12:15
lupine_85	keldon85: so register and change it. It's a wiki :)	12:15
keldon85	oh!	12:15
wooptydoo	Well I typed in kubuntu XGL	12:15
Zaire	lol thats what I figured but I just wanted to see what it looked like rather then look at the screen shots	12:15
lupine_85	wooptydoo: post in #ubuntu-xgl and someone will help fix your problem	12:15
wooptydoo	on the kubuntu site	12:15
wooptydoo	wow	12:15
wooptydoo	there is a channel for it	12:16
wooptydoo	thanks a million	12:16
Zaire	ok that directory didn't work either lol	12:16
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Dragnslcr	I have a wav file that plays fine in KWave, sounds bad in Kaffeine, and doesn't play at all as a notification sound in apps (Kopete, Konversation)	12:17
Dragnslcr	Any ideas on fixing it and/or converting it to a different format?	12:17
Zaire	try xmms	12:17
lupine_85	Zaire: pastebin? Also, maybe /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build/include would work for you	12:17
lupine_85	is this the latest version of vmware-workstation, by the way?	12:18
Zaire	yep	12:18
lupine_85	the configure scripts for older versions were hopeless at this particular step	12:18
Xcalibur	whats a good firewall to block connections that are inbound	12:18
Xcalibur	I'm trying to use it for xbox live bridging	12:18
Zaire	a linksys router lol	12:18
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sorush20	is my computer leaking its ip to every one?	12:19
Zaire	there we go	12:19
Dragnslcr	Zaire- can xmms convert the file to something that notifications can handle?	12:19
rawr	ahh how many things must I screw up my computer still i am happy.	12:19
Xcalibur	firestarter won't allow me to block connections for inbound	12:19
rawr	times*	12:19
LeeJunFan	sorush20: yeah, and it's getting all over the place - what a frikin mess.	12:19
Zaire	ummm not that I know of	12:19
Zaire	Im not sure if k audio creator would though it might	12:19
lupine_85	Dragnslcr: mencoder might do it	12:20
Zaire	or that	12:20
lupine_85	sorush: 82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk	12:20
lupine_85	ywa	12:20
lupine_85	yes*	12:20
Dragnslcr	Zaire- KWave supposedly can convert it, but I keep getting unhelpful error messages when I try saving as ogg	12:20
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lupine_85	not exactly "leaking", though, since it's an integral part of the Internet to allow your IP to be shown off	12:20
Zaire	lol such is the world of linux you never know what will happen next lol	12:20
lupine_85	mind you, blueyonder's rdns is often too revealing for it's own good	12:20
sorush20	LeeJunFan: are you messing with me ? how do I fix this?	12:21
Zaire	thanks lupin_85 Vm is now configured lol	12:21
lupine_85	cool :)	12:21
lupine_85	sorush20: you can't "fix" it	12:21
lupine_85	freenode doesn't allow you to connect from a proxy	12:21
LeeJunFan	sorush20: yes, I'm messing with you. Every packet your computer sends out has to have your IP attached to it so it knows how to get back. There's nothing "broken".	12:21
lupine_85	if you don't give our your IP address, nobody can return packets to you	12:21
deadsoul	How to open wma formatted files in Kubuntu?	12:21
Zaire	now I just have to see how good the vmware vid card is for battle field 2 lol	12:21
lupine_85	formatted as...?	12:21
deadsoul	wma	12:21
rawr	just use amarok	12:21
lupine_85	Zaire: hopeless :)	12:22
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deadsoul	ok thanks	12:22
rawr	i am playing wma formated iron maiden right now	12:22
Zaire	well atleast for my nero need it should work	12:22
deadsoul	But it is movie	12:22
deadsoul	Will it work?	12:22
OOD	move is wmv	12:22
OOD	movie*	12:22
lupine_85	deadsoul: no :). that's wmv. you'll need w32codecs and mplayer/kaffeine... assuming you have a 32-bit kernel	12:22
Zaire	ummm theres a restricted format you have to get	12:23
rawr	oh yes.	12:23
sorush20	LeeJunFan: I've just become paranoid about security..	12:23
Zaire	!restricted	12:23
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	12:23
rawr	that thingy.	12:23
lupine_85	if not, get a 32-bit chroot going, and optionally use mencoder to change the format	12:23
h3sp4wn	sorush20: Use openbsd then	12:23
deadsoul	Oh, sorry. Yeah it was wmv. Thanks for the help ...	12:23
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Zaire	wget -c http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/non-free/w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb	12:23
rawr	if you have windows dual booted you can just convert the movie first	12:23
Samuli^	has anyone else noticed that amarok playing last.fm doesn't sound as good as last.fm player?	12:23
deadsoul	thanks a lot	12:23
lupine_85	ooooh free pr0n :)	12:23
Zaire	you need to do that line I sent in cli	12:23
deadsoul	:D	12:23
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Dragnslcr	Are there any special settings (bit rate, etc.) that I need to set on a wav file to convert it to ogg?	12:25
lupine_85	not really	12:25
OOD	nope	12:25
OOD	wav is lossless	12:25
deadsoul	Thanks a lot Zaire, rawr and ubotu. It worked.	12:25
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Dragnslcr	I keep getting "One or more encoding parameters are not supported"	12:25
lupine_85	192kbps is generally a good tradeoff between size and quality	12:25
Zaire	no probs :)	12:25
lupine_85	do you have oggenc installed?	12:25
lupine_85	!oggenc	12:25
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about oggenc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	12:25
lupine_85	erm, 1 second	12:25
sinpath	ok need a little help finding the right modle on the add printer wizerd	12:26
isaac_	hello doesany of u knows a newbies manual to enable wifi, iam using a dell 1370 and ubuntu 6.06	12:26
Zaire	hmmmm printer is a pain lol I haven't added mine in yet but it took me a min to figure it out the first time	12:27
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Dragnslcr	lupine_85- I do have libogg0 installed, if that's what you're looking for	12:27
isaac_	hello doesany of u knows a newbies manual to enable wifi, iam using a dell 1370 and ubuntu 6.06	12:27
lupine_85	!vorbis-tools	12:27
ubotu	vorbis-tools: several Ogg Vorbis tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.1-3 (dapper), package size 90 kB, installed size 724 kB	12:27
sinpath	it has the manufacturer but not the modle	12:28
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lupine_85	Dragnslcr: install that	12:28
lupine_85	sinpath: 1300 didn't work?	12:28
OOD	libogg isn;t what you want	12:28
sinpath	nope	12:28
OOD	that's for compiling apps that require ogg support	12:28
Dragnslcr	lupine_85- vorbis-tools is also installed	12:28
LeeJunFan	I guess windows Vista is so huge it is no longer vulnerable to worms, instead it gets infected with graboids.	12:28
Zvezdichko	lol	12:29
OOD	graboids?	12:29
LeeJunFan	Tremors - the movie.	12:29
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sinpath	oh hold on it seems my printer has an error >.<	12:29
lupine_85	:)	12:30
Dragnslcr	I just find it odd that KWave, Kaffeine, and notifications all seem to handle wav files differently	12:30
rawr	Tremors was awesome	12:30
lupine_85	it's basically raw data, so the programs have to make certain decisions about it	12:30
rawr	and so was that refernce	12:30
lupine_85	you can use oggenc directly... I'm just looking for the options you need	12:30
keldon85	hiiii need serious help	12:31
Dragnslcr	Yeah, but I would think they'd all pass it off to the same audio processing system	12:31
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rawr	visa when released fully will be full of ass-blasters	12:31
MasterEvilAce	whats happening	12:31
lupine_85	Dragnslcr: linux has so many different audio processing systems... ;)	12:31
lupine_85	ok, you want "oggenc infile.wav -q 6 -o out.ogg"	12:31
LeeJunFan	rawr: haha!	12:31
keldon85	i'm trying to install sun-java, but now the installation has reached the point when it needs input for the 'i agree' statement	12:31
isaac_	hello doesany of u knows a newbies manual to enable wifi, iam using a dell 1370 and ubuntu 6.06	12:31
lupine_85	change -q as appropriate (6 is highest quality, 1 is lowest)	12:32
MasterEvilAce	Rawr: how in the world did you manage to register that name	12:32
lupine_85	!wifi	12:32
ubotu	Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	12:32
Zaire	java is an easy one	12:32
OOD	keldon86: you using adept to install it?	12:32
keldon85	unfortunately when I go to "Show Details" it only displays half of the screen and appears to have locked up	12:32
keldon85	OOD: yes	12:32
OOD	you have to use apt-get in cli	12:32
isaac_	ubotu: thnks	12:32
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ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about thnks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	12:32
rawr	why the hell would anyone so much as abuse linux so much to make it look like windows.....	12:33
OOD	it's a bug in adept, don't know if it's been fixed yet	12:33
taylor	hey everybody, whats up?	12:33
isaac_	ubotu: thanks	12:33
ubotu	Thanks for the help!	12:33
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keldon85	OOD: Only problem is that it is half way through the installation already	12:33
OOD	you'll have to cancel it, no other way around it	12:33
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Dragnslcr	lupine_85- that seems to have worked. Thanks	12:34
keldon85	there is no option to cancel it; and if I xkill the app then I will have a corrupt installation	12:34
keldon85	does the input still respond	12:34
lupine_85	np :)	12:34
OOD	you have to kill the app, that's what i meant	12:34
LeeJunFan	rawr: that's a sore spot with me.... Every time I hear someone say, "Linux needs to do X like windows, so people can easily switch to it." I think - if you like windows so damn much - stick to it, and don't drag linux down with ya. I wouldn't be using it if it were just like windows. hehe	12:34
Dragnslcr	Out of curiosity, what's the recommended hardware option for an Audigy 2 card? Alsa?	12:34
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keldon85	i know how to kill apps, but if i do then i end up with an incomplete and corrupt installation	12:35
MasterEvilAce	i like Linux to ACT like windows, in the sense that Shading is stupid, and i don't see a reason why i need to MOVE and RESIZE maximized windows.. but i like linux to look like linux :)	12:35
keldon85	this caused a few problems last time	12:35
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OOD	there's no other wayt	12:35
OOD	you can't continue the installation in adept	12:35
h3sp4wn	MasterEvilAce: Linux is just a kernel	12:35
Zaire	so anyone know when edgy is gonna have a DVD iso?	12:35
ryan_	i have a dvd with music stored on mp3 format as a back up. how do i mount the disk so i can copy over the files	12:35
Dragnslcr	MasterEvilAce- actually that reminds me of another question I wanted to ask. Is there any trick to getting KDE to remember window positions?	12:35
MasterEvilAce	h3sp4wn: and i want it to look like a kernel too!	12:35
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h3sp4wn	MasterEvilAce: How does a kernel look ?	12:36
MasterEvilAce	h3sp4wn: Before it's popped it's a small seed	12:36
LeeJunFan	Dragnslcr: yeah, right click on the titlebar.	12:36
Zaire	lol	12:36
LeeJunFan	Dragnslcr: there's all kinds of settings you can set, sticky, size, decoration, etc...	12:36
Zaire	good one lol	12:36
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MasterEvilAce	h3sp4wn: I meant KDE anyways :( don't go crazy	12:36
MasterEvilAce	Dragnslcr: KDE seems to remember my positions.. hmm.	12:37
h3sp4wn	MasterEvilAce: I am crazy cannot help it	12:37
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keldon85	ok, where is the .lock file for Adept, or do i not need to delete it?	12:37
keldon85	because it is saying that another adept program is running	12:38
OOD	no need to delete it	12:38
OOD	just kill adept and apt-get	12:38
keldon85	and adept cannot make any edits	12:38
Dragnslcr	LeeJunFan- Special Application Settings?	12:38
MasterEvilAce	Dragnslcr: Hey, try to right click title bar and go to Advanced - >Special Window Settings .. and you can check "position" and "size" i think..	12:38
MasterEvilAce	Oh, yeah Leejun said it first	12:38
Dragnslcr	Yeah, found that. Is that global, or will I have to set it for each app?	12:38
MasterEvilAce	app-specific	12:39
LeeJunFan	Dragnslcr: I think that's it. I actually can't tell ya exactly right now - I'm running xgl - not kde's window decorator.	12:39
sinpath	ok thanks it did work was just i didnt have the printer ink in	12:39
Dragnslcr	Yeah, XGL is on my list of stuff to try	12:39
MasterEvilAce	I'm giong to wait until XGL becomes an auto-installing package.. I tried it once. way too much trouble	12:39
Dragnslcr	I installed the xserver-xgl package, I just have to figure out how to use it	12:39
lupine_85	keldon85: the error message tells you	12:40
LeeJunFan	Dragnslcr: I used that to make sure things like kopete opened sticky, and gkrellm, etc... That's one thing I don't like about XGL is that kde's window manager doesn't work with it - and I don't get access to those properties.	12:40
lupine_85	/var/cache/dpkg/lock IIRC	12:40
OOD	Dragnslcr: there's much more to it then just downloading the package	12:40
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sinpath	ok dose this mean i have to install the scaner & coper part sepritly then?	12:40
jacob_	There are a few things i am most thankfull for.	12:40
Dragnslcr	OOD- yeah, figured there would be. I think XGL may be a weekend project at some point	12:40
keldon85	ok it's fine now thanks	12:40
jacob_	1. Is kubuntu, and B. Surge Protecters	12:41
OOD	Dragnslcr: this package will autoinstall it for you :) http://www.compiz.net/topic-689-xgl-kubuntu-automatic-xgl-installation	12:41
keldon85	last time it can't remember what i did to fix anything ... and then after that adept was installing jre fine	12:41
jacob_	if not for surge protecters my computer would be so fryed	12:41
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jacob_	from it getin unpluged every 2 mins.	12:41
OOD	just add these repos to your sources.list: http://www.compiz.net/topic-74-repository-for-date-xgl-dapper-packages and http://www.compiz.net/topic-2-quinn-ubuntu-packages	12:41
larson9999	jacob_: how do you sing the alphabet song? 1, b, 2, c, ...?	12:42
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jacob_	hapens when you are using a 50 ft garden extention cord to get power.	12:42
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jacob_	larson : using single tense a,b,c,d is conformity.	12:42
OOD	keldon86: no problem :)	12:42
jacob_	thanks for remininding me., though	12:42
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rawr__	forgot to change it.	12:42
jj_	does anyone in here use 2 screens?	12:43
rawr__	I wish.	12:43
grothesk	jj_: I do.	12:43
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jj_	xinerama is killing me	12:44
jj_	i cant get it to work with ATI drivers	12:44
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OOD	yeah ati is a pain to get working properly	12:44
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lupine_85	sinpath: solution! http://hpoj.sourceforge.net/suplist.shtml	12:44
lupine_85	suggests that you use DJ3320 as your driver	12:45
lupine_85	(e.g. select DeskJet 3320 as the model)	12:45
sinpath	ok thanks man	12:45
lupine_85	the scanner should "just work"	12:45
Captain_Redbeard	Hmmm quick question... where is the splashscreen during boot-up set? what is it that controls it?	12:46
deadsoul	How the learn the ip of the host of a site from terminaL?	12:46
deadsoul	how to*	12:46
OOD	ping www.hostsite.com i think	12:47
deadsoul	let me try	12:47
lupine_85	just ping it	12:48
lupine_85	or you can dig it	12:48
metalero9	kike	12:48
deadsoul	Ok it worked	12:48
metalero9	estas	12:48
deadsoul	thanks	12:48
OOD	:)	12:48
lupine_85	now you can get those hax0r tools out again ;)	12:48
deadsoul	Does Yakuake have kubuntu package?	12:49
deadsoul	Ahha	12:49
deadsoul	just try to learn basic command that can be used in terminal :)	12:49
grothesk	deadsoul: It does.	12:49
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grothesk	<--- yakuake addict	12:49
deadsoul	grothesk how to download and install it by using terminal?	12:50
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deadsoul	wget -????	12:50
grothesk	apt-get install yakuake ???	12:50
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deadsoul	ohi ok thanks a lot	12:50
OOD	that's if it's in the repository	12:51
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grothesk	It's in universe.	12:51
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Dragnslcr	This look right for the repos list, OOD? deb http://www.compiz.net/topic-2-quinn-ubuntu-packages dapper main restricted	12:51
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lupine_85	that looks wrong	12:52
rawrness	yakuake owns	12:52
OOD	use this: http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/	12:52
Dragnslcr	Yeah, I'm not sure what the rest of the options should be	12:52
rawrness	just just add and remove programs	12:53
lupine_85	or this: http://compiz-mirror.lupine.me.uk/ ;)	12:53
rawrness	thus where i got mine.	12:53
larson9999	walmart selling cheap drugs? trying to lure me back, i see.	12:53
lupine_85	you want "dapper main" then extra repos depending on any special requirements	12:53
deadsoul	OOD is right i think. I get such an error "E: Couldn't find package yakuake"	12:53
larson9999	oops! wrong channel	12:53
lupine_85	aiglx? main-amd64?	12:53
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lupine_85	s/repos/sections	12:54
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momuth	alguem fala portugues ???	12:54
lupine_85	!pt	12:54
ubotu	Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.	12:54
OOD	deadsoul: you have universe repos open?	12:54
momuth	blz	12:54
deadsoul	How to do that I am new to Linux	12:54
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OOD	you can do it through adept, or you can edit the repo list yourself	12:55
deadsoul	Oh I have upgraded it yesterday by installing new packages.	12:56
deadsoul	I have upgraded it	12:56
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OOD	im in windows now, but i'm pretty sure the list is in /etc/apt/sources.lst	12:57
sab	bonsoir	12:57
deadsoul	Ok let me check	12:57
OOD	just do this in terminal: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.lst	12:57
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OOD	this will start the kate editor in root so you can edit the file	12:57
Hawkwind	kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list actually	12:57
Admiral_Chicago	deadsoul, /etc/apt/sources.list	12:57
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OOD	kate, or kwrite doesn't matter :)	12:58
Hawkwind	Replace kwrite with whatever	12:58
Admiral_Chicago	kate is better....	12:58
Hawkwind	OOD: You had the file wrong	12:58
sab	not skeak french ?	12:58
Hawkwind	Admiral_Chicago: Personal opinion only	12:58
jj_	whats the command to restart X?	12:58
gnomefreak	kedit	12:58
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Hawkwind	jj_: ctrl-alt-backspace	12:58
gnomefreak	:)	12:58
Admiral_Chicago	alt ctrl backspace	12:58
jj_	thanks	12:58
Admiral_Chicago	ah i'm so slow	12:58
deadsoul	List is empty	12:58
Admiral_Chicago	/etc/apt/sources.list	12:58
OOD	it can't be	12:59
Admiral_Chicago	tahts not possible	12:59
Hawkwind	deadsoul: /etc/apt/sources.list that's why	12:59
OOD	it means you didnt type it in correctly	12:59
Hawkwind	OOD: You told him the wrong file that's why	12:59
OOD	yeah	12:59
deadsoul	Let me check again	12:59
OOD	my bad	12:59
Admiral_Chicago	OOD, you forgot the .list	12:59
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Hawkwind	deadsoul: Read what Admiral_Chicago and I stated	12:59
OOD	yeah i said lst instead of list	12:59
troy	evening folks - does anyone know the anything about the status of using 32bit packages on edgy? (as in, is it transparent? can I install opera 32bit from apt?)	12:59
troy	on amd64, that is	01:00
Hawkwind	troy: You probably can, however, #Ubuntu+1 is the edgy channel really	01:00
troy	Hawkwind: that's what I needed to know :)	01:00
deadsoul	deb http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted	01:00
deadsoul	deb-src http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted	01:00
OOD	have there been any changes in regard to better amd64 support?	01:00
OOD	in edgy?	01:00
lupine_85	OOD: everything is pretty much the samwe as it was in dapper	01:00
Admiral_Chicago	lupine_85, not true	01:00
lupine_85	...since the 32bit/4bit distinction is only really relavent for closed-source programs	01:01
deadsoul	As you can see it is restricted.....	01:01
Admiral_Chicago	upstart is not pretty much the same as dapper	01:01
Hawkwind	OOD: Very doubtful that much will change for another year or so. 64Bit is just too new still	01:01
Admiral_Chicago	ah yea	01:01
lupine_85	erm, 64, not 4 ;)	01:01
Hawkwind	Admiral_Chicago: upstart isn't just for 64Bit though :)	01:01
Admiral_Chicago	i know, but its awesome and new to edgy	01:02
deadsoul	So what to change in sources.list?	01:02
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grothesk	Will upstart be activated in edgy?	01:02
OOD	but its mpt specific to 64 bit	01:02
lupine_85	however, the question was... "[00:00] <OOD> have there been any changes in regard to better amd64 support?"	01:02
Hawkwind	deadsoul: What are you trying to do ?	01:02
Hawkwind	grothesk: It already is	01:02
lupine_85	grothesk: yes	01:02
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grothesk	.k	01:02
lupine_85	ah, that reminds me...	01:02
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deadsoul	Hawkwind I try to install yakuake	01:03
OOD	which is in universe	01:03
deadsoul	I dont have any idea why i am in sources.list but they want me to open it :D	01:03
Hawkwind	deadsoul: You need to enable all of your repos	01:03
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Hawkwind	!repos > deadsoul	01:03
OOD	;) you're there for a reason	01:03
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Hawkwind	deadsoul: Read what the bot just pm'd you	01:03
jman8888	http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=KDE4+Windows+Port	01:04
jman8888	The evil.	01:04
deadsoul	Ok thanks a lot guys...	01:04
lupine_85	oh. my. gods.	01:04
lupine_85	no	01:04
OOD	jman8888: what's so evil about it?	01:04
Dragnslcr	Has anyone had any luck getting a bluetooth mouse to work? (Logitech MX1000)	01:04
jman8888	Porting KDE to windows XP	01:04
OOD	plasma (the whole desktop environment) isn't getting ported to XP	01:04
Hawkwind	Dragnslcr: I use the MX1000 laser mouse	01:05
Hawkwind	Dragnslcr: I merely plugged it in and it worked	01:05
Dragnslcr	Hawkwind- that must be nice	01:05
Hawkwind	jman8888: That's super old news actually :P	01:05
jj_	is your USB controller installed correctly?	01:05
Hawkwind	Dragnslcr: It's just a USB mouse is all it is	01:05
jman8888	Hawkwind, Digg is good for that stuff.	01:05
Dragnslcr	Unless having a second USB mouse plugged in would make the system not bother looking for it	01:06
jman8888	Hawkwind, But im still mad.	01:06
jj_	why do you have 2?	01:06
OOD	you won't be able to run the KDE desktop on windows	01:06
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OOD	that part isn't getting ported	01:06
jman8888	So what is ported.	01:06
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lupine_85	artsd? ;)	01:07
OOD	QT4	01:07
jman8888	QT4?	01:07
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ConsoleFx	how i can use cross cable for transferring date between 2 computers (kubuntu <->windows)	01:08
OOD	yes the QT library	01:08
lupine_85	oh, so it just lets you recompile Qt source into a windows binary?	01:08
Dragnslcr	When I move the mouse, the bluetooth icon activates for a second, but the pointer doesn't actually move.	01:08
lupine_85	ConsoleFx: Plug it in. plug it in. configure the ip addresses (static is best)	01:08
jman8888	So that means Windows users will have kde programs...	01:08
lupine_85	"might"	01:08
OOD	some programs yes	01:08
OOD	like konqueror	01:08
lupine_85	assuming anyone bothers to build it for them ;)	01:08
ConsoleFx	lupine_85: how ??	01:08
ConsoleFx	plz tell	01:08
Dragnslcr	There any way to get the system to scan for the bluetooth mouse without logging out/restarting?	01:08
swatgoss	speaking about KDE4 ?	01:09
lupine_85	use the Networking applet in system settings?	01:09
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tony_	hello everyone..	01:09
ConsoleFx	use the Networking applet in system settings.. then??	01:09
tony_	How can i change default programs in kubuntu ????	01:09
OOD	the KDE desktop environment is too dependent on X that;s why it isn't being ported to Windows	01:09
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Hawkwind	KDE has already been ported to Windows actually	01:10
OOD	yeah a very old version i think	01:10
jman8888	Hawkwind, ...	01:10
Hawkwind	OOD: Ummm, 3.5.2 isn't that old	01:10
lupine_85	ConsoleFx: ah, you want to transfer files?	01:10
OOD	3.5 was ported?	01:10
swatgoss	i got a .bin, a JDK on a CD from a book to learn Java	01:10
OOD	can i get a link>	01:10
swatgoss	how to install it on my Kubuntu ? :/	01:10
ConsoleFx	lupine_85: ya	01:10
OOD	im on XP now :D	01:10
Hawkwind	OOD: I do believe so. They have no reason to port an older version	01:11
Hawkwind	swatgoss: KDE4 isn't out yet	01:11
lupine_85	install openssh-server on the kubuntu machine. Google for, and download, psftp.exe on the windows machine.	01:11
swatgoss	Hawkwindi know	01:11
tolkan_	OOD: do you have a website with instructions on porting KDE to windows?	01:11
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OOD	i dont, im asking for it :D	01:11
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Hawkwind	tolkan_: It's already been ported	01:11
lupine_85	the alternative is samba, and I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy	01:11
ConsoleFx	okie	01:11
Hawkwind	tolkan_: You can just install it	01:11
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ConsoleFx	thnx	01:11
tolkan_	Hawkwind: do you have a link	01:11
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Hawkwind	tolkan_: Nope. I don't touch Windows anything, sorry	01:11
OOD	lol	01:12
Hawkwind	tolkan: Google knows all though :)	01:12
OOD	i googled around, but could only find a cygwin port of v1.12 or something	01:12
mhoye	Few quick questions: 1) I seem to be running 2.6.17, but I can't find a source package for it.	01:12
rawrness	google is your best friend	01:12
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lupine_85	!info linux-source-2.6.17 edgy	01:12
tolkan	Hawkwind: haha, well do ou know anything about Python implementation in ubuntu? i'm haveing trouble it recognizing the gtk2 bindings	01:12
ubotu	linux-source-2.6.17: Linux kernel source for version 2.6.17 with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17-8.22 (edgy), package size 44988 kB, installed size 45120 kB	01:12
BluDog_Anchorite	google stole my girlfriend, and ate my leftover pizza	01:13
OOD	this is all i found: http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/	01:13
Hawkwind	mhoye: You running Edgy ?	01:13
mhoye	Ok is that in edgy only?	01:13
OOD	that;s KDE 1.45	01:13
lupine_85	google stole my pizza, and ate my girlfriend :'(	01:13
OOD	and 3.1.4	01:13
saxton	is there an easy way to reenable the CUPS web interface?	01:14
swatgoss	anybody know the installation method for a .bin "shell script"	01:14
swatgoss	looking in docs	01:14
Hawkwind	swatgoss: sh file.bin	01:14
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Hawkwind	swatgoss: Sometimes you have to chmod +x file.bin first	01:14
swatgoss	do i have to copy the file to HDD before ?	01:14
swatgoss	its on a CD	01:14
Hawkwind	mhoye: Are you running Edgy ?	01:14
BluDog_Anchorite	swatgoss: and if this is java you are talking about installing, why not get if from the repo's	01:15
mhoye	Ok, about Edgy: I used to run Sid, so I just pointed apt at that and got the latest/greatest. Is that what "edgy" means in Ubuntu?	01:15
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swatgoss	BluDog_Anchorite ... could be an idea :p	01:15
Hawkwind	mhoye: Edgy is still beta and breaks quite often. #Ubuntu+1 is the Edgy channel. However, we recommend you run the latest stable which is Dapper	01:15
Hawkwind	!java > swatgoss	01:15
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lupine_85	mhoye: not really. edgy is, well, more edgy than sid :)	01:16
Hawkwind	swatgoss: Read the info the bot pm'd you about java if that's what you are installing	01:16
swatgoss	BluDog_Anchorite but i could learn to install something on linux without adpet or konsole so :p	01:16
jpiccolo_	!gdm	01:16
ubotu	gdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.10-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1681 kB, installed size 11588 kB	01:16
OOD	Hawkwind: KDE runs in cygwin, but there isn't a native implementation for windows: http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/kde3/screenshots.php	01:16
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Hawkwind	swatgoss: It's best to stick with .deb files and such if possible instead of compiling things	01:16
swatgoss	ok will try this way 1st :p	01:16
rawrness	i am geting a werid error of late	01:16
deadsoul	Oh yes, I installed Yakuake. Thanks a lot for your helps....	01:16
Hawkwind	OOD: Like I said, I haven't touched Windows in 4+ years and don't plan on it either in the next 150 years atleast :P	01:17
swatgoss	JDK 1-5-0-03 i586.bin	01:17
tony_	How can i change deafaul programs ??? i want to change different browser , movie player .	01:17
rawrness	!pastebin	01:17
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)	01:17
lupine_85	tony_: system settings	01:17
mhoye	Ok, if dapper's the way to go, are the Suspend2 patches integrated into Ubuntu's kernel tree?	01:17
OOD	Hawkwind: 4 years, not bad :D	01:19
tony_	lupine, thanks , i been there , but i have no idea which of those programs would do the job	01:19
lupine_85	then stick with the defaults? :)	01:20
Dragnslcr	What's the correct way to get programs to load on logon?	01:21
Hawkwind	Dragnslcr: ~/.kde/Autostart	01:21
Dragnslcr	Just drop in symlinks?	01:21
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rawrness	i was also wondering about hat.	01:22
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dom	is there a handy shortcut in kate to insert the current date and/or time?	01:24
swatgoss	look on system clock, and type what you see ?	01:25
mhoye	Or: is there a "ubuntu-patch" package that's got all the patches that are applied to a vanilla kernel.org kernel?	01:25
tony_	how can i make VLC my deafult Media player ???? :)	01:25
swatgoss	open with ?	01:25
swatgoss	richt clic	01:25
swatgoss	open with, list or something like that	01:25
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swatgoss	select VLC associate .....	01:26
OOD	run kcontrol, and in one of the options there is a way to set default programs to certain file tupes	01:26
xose	swatgoss: it doesn't work for me with VLC	01:26
OOD	types*	01:26
tony_	but using Firefox , and links on webpage, i don't have this option	01:26
deadsoul	Is there any good p2p program that can be used in Kubuntu that you can advice except KTorrent (it does not download anything, so slow :) )	01:26
OOD	frostwire (it's java)	01:27
swatgoss	all java clients ?	01:27
tony_	im using amule deadsoul	01:27
BluDog_Anchorite	!frostwire > deadsoul	01:27
OOD	or you can use wine to run windows p2p programs	01:27
deadsoul	Ok thanks a lot again. I will try frostwire	01:27
swatgoss	shareaza :p	01:27
swatgoss	lol	01:27
deadsoul	I will never use wine :)	01:27
dom	deadsoul, I've never had problems with ktorrent but you can run azureus	01:28
OOD	wine is amazing	01:28
swatgoss	wine contain "win"	01:28
swatgoss	can't work ...	01:28
OOD	o.0	01:28
BluDog_Anchorite	my favorite p2p is still "hey man, can i burn a copy of that ?"	01:28
deadsoul	:)	01:28
swatgoss	do Wine have blue screen option ?	01:28
deadsoul	Hahahah	01:28
deadsoul	:D	01:28
OOD	nope	01:28
swatgoss	bah	01:29
OOD	only windows :)	01:29
swatgoss	Wine suxxx ...	01:29
OOD	and reactos	01:29
swatgoss	it only do 50% of windows work !	01:29
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OOD	erm, what?	01:29
swatgoss	Wine don't have blue screen, its only a half of windows !	01:29
swatgoss	"windows's work" is better ?	01:30
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rawrness	now only if ddin't have to use wine or windows	01:30
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swatgoss	do = achieve :p	01:30
swatgoss	Wine only achieve 50% of windows's work	01:30
swatgoss	it only run programs :p	01:31
swatgoss	basicus trolla ergo sum ...	01:32
rawrness	gag linux and java are evil.	01:32
swatgoss	:'(	01:32
swatgoss	just started Java ...	01:32
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rawrness	or rather installing java on linux	01:32
swatgoss	will i have to stop to be a better linuser ?	01:32
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BluDog_Anchorite	anyone know where i might find a list of ncurses or CLI only games ?	01:34
Hawkwind	packages.ubuntu.com	01:34
swatgoss	on DSLinux :p	01:34
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swatgoss	you have 2 text RPG	01:34
keldon85	hi, i am having weird and annoying problems installing my gfx card	01:35
keldon85	I am following help:/kubuntu/desktopguide/hardware.html	01:35
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keldon85	i have an ati radeon 9250, mandrake and kubuntu identify it as 'ATI Radeon (fglrx)'	01:36
keldon85	but when I go into system settings->hardware, the card appears as vesa	01:36
Hawkwind	!ati	01:36
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	01:36
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keldon85	ahh	01:37
rawrness	sudo is acting up... giving me errors now.	01:37
larson9999	BluDog_Anchorite: try the linux game tome	01:37
swatgoss	i got an idea ... Java = sun, unix = sun, so unix can run uncompiled java :p	01:37
rawrness	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24299	01:37
rawrness	o wait perhaps the 2ed error message is adept...	01:38
swatgoss	KDE runs under Unix ? .................... i don't really need an answer	01:38
OOD	rawrness: yeah you have to close adept before using apt-get in terminal	01:39
rawrness	I am so noobish	01:39
swatgoss	thats a good idea ...	01:39
rawrness	i surpize my slef	01:39
rawrness	but yet again if i didn't break everything	01:40
rawrness	what else would i have to do	01:40
DeadSouL	!keepass	01:40
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about keepass - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	01:40
swatgoss	avoid contact with normal people ?	01:40
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OOD	it's called KeePassX for Linux and OS X	01:41
DeadSouL	oh thanks :)	01:41
swatgoss	what is it ?	01:41
DeadSouL	!KeePassX	01:42
OOD	http://keepassx.sourceforge.net/en/	01:42
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about KeePassX - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	01:42
OOD	np :)	01:42
DeadSouL	Password manager	01:42
DeadSouL	with cool options	01:42
swatgoss	KDEwallet or something else ?	01:42
OOD	there's a deb file for download at that site	01:42
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\|GaiJin\|	ehm... have they removed the webmin from kbuntu??	01:42
rawrness	i tend to avoid deb, and related like the plauge	01:43
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OOD	eh?	01:43
DeadSouL	Well, as I said I am new to Linux. So I am not sure if it is like KDEwallet or not.	01:43
DeadSouL	I was using KeePass in Win...	01:44
swatgoss	ok, no pb :p	01:44
greg	Hi ya. I'm trying to upgrade to dapper, I found a guide to do so and it says to use aptitude to install kubuntu-desktop. when I issue that command it bitches about unmet dependencies and broken packages. Any idea why?	01:44
OOD	rawrness: you compile everything from source?	01:44
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fa	7	01:44
DeadSouL	So I have a database file. I have to read it in Kubuntu too :).	01:44
Makro2a1	F7	01:45
rawrness	nope i tend to avoid things if i can't get it with adept	01:45
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rawrness	otherwise adept is my best friend	01:45
swatgoss	you adopted adept ?	01:45
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swatgoss	--------> [_]	01:46
greg	yeah adept rules. beat rpm hekk	01:46
greg	hell that is	01:46
OOD	adept is really buggy	01:46
OOD	freezes a lot on me	01:46
OOD	but i use it anyway since i like it way more than synaptic :)	01:47
swatgoss	when it runs :p	01:47
greg	really? not me	01:47
greg	so anyone have these problems upgrading to dapper?	01:47
swatgoss	sometimes i enter my pass	01:47
swatgoss	and ... nothing	01:47
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greg	swatgoss i wonder why I never have that problem. Hardware?	01:49
swatgoss	my hard ?	01:49
greg	yeah	01:50
greg	i wonder if it uses like all the memory	01:50
greg	or cpu	01:50
swatgoss	hummm Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo D7850, Prescott Mobile 3.06GHz HT, 1024MB DDR333, 60GB 5400rpm, Radeon Mobility 9200 64MB	01:51
swatgoss	full CPU and full RAM :p	01:51
DeadSouL	When I click on KeePassX .deb package it says that "Sorry, application is not in (PATH) folder. Please install it or bla bla...". How can I install it?	01:51
swatgoss	don't think so ...	01:51
rawrness	i once got that error before	01:51
greg	yeah, beats my little box all to hell	01:51
rawrness	i don't rember what i did.	01:52
swatgoss	i prefer my desk PC ...	01:52
greg	does it get fm?	01:52
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OOD	right click on it and select package install	01:53
swatgoss	radio receiver ?	01:53
DeadSouL	ok	01:53
swatgoss	or frequency modulation ?	01:53
DeadSouL	will try it	01:53
greg	swatgoss...sorry i was just being a smartass	01:53
swatgoss	lol	01:53
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swatgoss	i wanna turn the CPU/RAM to 100MHz freq ...	01:54
swatgoss	bot didn't find any pinmod for P4	01:54
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greg	swatgoss: did you have any trouble upgrading to dapper?	01:55
swatgoss	to dapper nope	01:55
swatgoss	installing from CD :p	01:55
swatgoss	crashed my old partition ...	01:55
greg	might be the best way	01:55
swatgoss	so reinstall needed	01:55
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swatgoss	my old 2.5GB partition was cracshin everytime i tried to install 2 686 kernels	01:56
swatgoss	not enough space ...	01:56
swatgoss	now with 4.5GB its ok :p	01:56
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DeadSouL	Hmm I installed KeePassX by the way ODD described but i could not see it in K menu after "kbuildsycoca"ing by the help of terminal. How can I add it to menu?	01:57
rawrness	tat i got my flash runing.	01:57
rawrness	so appy	01:57
DeadSouL	:)	01:57
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rawrness	wow things dot real dead	02:05
rawrness	got*	02:05
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greg	DeadSouL: if you know where it installed to you can add a launcher to the panel	02:06
DeadSouL	I dont know where it is installed	02:06
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DeadSouL	Is there another way?	02:06
greg	binary files are usually put in /usr/bin	02:08
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DeadSouL	Ok i will check	02:08
Dink	woot 2.6.18 kernel and 8.29.6 ati drivers	02:08
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rawrness	If not you can always try locate: kee	02:08
justinmt7	hi everyone	02:08
rawrness	in konquer	02:09
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justinmt7	i just installed kunbuntu. I can't get my wireless network card to work. It's a linksys WPC54G card and i can't find linux drivers for it on the website. Any suggestions? The card has power and wireless assistant won't pick it up	02:10
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rawrness	yet again another networking problem.....	02:10
rawrness	That may be a pain in the ass when i get my laptop.	02:11
justinmt7	im brand new to linux btw	02:11
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en1gma	hey all	02:12
en1gma	wuzzup	02:12
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greg	justinmt7: have you tried searching the forums for your card?	02:13
en1gma	im using kubuntu live dvd....i have an NF4 mboard that has onboard nvraid (i know its fake raid) now i have 4 sata drives in a raid 0 and there are 2 partitions (1 for windows) and (future 1 for kubuntu) but what i want to know now is how do i mount that array	02:13
justinmt7	greg--doing that now and can't find my problem being addressed	02:14
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en1gma	anyone?	02:15
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en1gma	m using kubuntu live dvd....i have an NF4 mboard that has onboard nvraid (i know its fake raid) now i have 4 sata drives in a raid 0 and there are 2 partitions (1 for windows) and (future 1 for kubuntu) but what i want to know now is how do i mount that array	02:15
en1gma	crap sorry	02:15
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rawrness	I see	02:17
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rawrness	en1gma i suggest perhaps making a thrird partion for shared files such as media	02:18
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rawrness	mount that as home, the one you want to linux as /	02:18
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rawrness	and also make your self a swap	02:18
rawrness	leave the windows partion alone.	02:19
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Josh_	anyone use any type of spyware/adware programs for kubuntu? or is that not necessary?	02:20
Josh_	or is there one provided?	02:20
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phsx211	anyone use any tpe of spyware/adware programs for kubuntu or is that not necessary?	02:21
lupine_85	phsx211: not really needed	02:22
greg	rawrness did you upgrade breezy to dapper?	02:22
lupine_85	but...	02:22
lupine_85	!chkrootkit	02:22
ubotu	chkrootkit: Checks for signs of rootkits on the local system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.46a-2 (dapper), package size 241 kB, installed size 688 kB	02:22
lupine_85	much less unlikely :)	02:22
rawrness	nope just formated drive XD	02:22
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rawrness	i probly said something out of context thoguh	02:23
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en1gma	rawness	02:24
rawrness	yes	02:24
en1gma	first i need to see if i can see the partions	02:24
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en1gma	how do i do that...all i see in /dev/mapper is "control" no partions	02:24
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en1gma	im not sure which version of kubuntu i using btw	02:25
en1gma	i think its a month old	02:25
rawrness	I am not even sure what dev/mapper is XD	02:25
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en1gma	how do i see if kubuntu sees mr raid0 array (WITH) the 2 partions	02:25
Jucato_	en1gma: you can check which version of kubuntu you are using by typing this in Konsole: lsb_release -a	02:26
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elmore_	could somebody please tell me the best and most popular free software equivalents for secondlife?	02:26
en1gma	Release: 6.06	02:26
en1gma	Codename: dapper	02:26
en1gma	it has drive mapper already i believe	02:27
en1gma	i might be using the 64bit kubuntu too i not sure	02:27
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rawrness	I don't know to much but in the install i used the userdefined partion option and set it up like the 5th setup	02:29
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rawrness	in this guide here http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partitioning.html	02:29
greg	en1gma: have you tried to mount /dev/mapper ?	02:29
rawrness	so don't trust me i am noobish	02:29
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en1gma	ohh not yet	02:30
en1gma	let me try...	02:30
en1gma	1sec	02:30
en1gma	do i need to 'su root' if so whats the pass	02:30
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en1gma	ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount /dev/mapper	02:31
en1gma	mount: can't find /dev/mapper in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab	02:31
en1gma	i was following this guide kinda "http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2557.html"	02:32
en1gma	ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls /dev/mapper/	02:32
en1gma	control	02:32
DeadSouL	Can I divide the partition where kubuntu insalled into two without harming Kubuntu?	02:33
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en1gma	i believe it is supposed to show partitons there	02:33
DeadSouL	installed*	02:33
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jj_	yes	02:33
jj_	qtparted	02:33
DeadSouL	Ok thanks a lot JJ_	02:33
en1gma	greg where you go?	02:33
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greg	en1gma: try making a directory in /media, then mount -t ext3 /media/new directory	02:34
jj_	just a tip, run it from a live disk, preferably knoppix	02:34
DeadSouL	ok	02:34
en1gma	ok gonna try 1 sec...what is pass for root with live dvd	02:35
en1gma	i cant make	02:35
en1gma	no permissions	02:35
Jucato_	en1gma: no password (blank)	02:35
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bobbyyu	Does anyone know how to use Java under Kubuntu?	02:36
en1gma	authent failure	02:36
rawrness	java is evil......	02:36
Jucato_	en1gma: you are on the Live DVD?	02:37
Jucato_	!java	02:37
ubotu	To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository	02:37
Samuli^	bobbyyu, what do you mean by using it?	02:37
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bobbyyu	I have a "The local variable XXX is not read" error	02:37
bobbyyu	I mean "The local variable XXX is never read" error	02:38
en1gma	just made the pass trying commands now	02:38
greg	sudo mount /dev/mapper -t ext3 /media/new directory	02:38
bobbyyu	Can anyone help me?	02:38
Jucato_	en1gma: we don't use su in Kubuntu, btw. root account is disabled. we use "sudo"	02:39
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en1gma	i just used su	02:39
jj_	you can enable the root account and use su, you just better know what your doing..	02:39
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en1gma	[00:34] <greg> en1gma: try making a directory in /media, then mount -t ext3 /media/new directory <<<<dont work	02:41
en1gma	tells me about usage	02:41
greg	sudo mount /dev/mapper -t ext3 /media/new directory	02:41
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en1gma	root@ubuntu://# mount /dev/mapper -t ext3 /media/test	02:41
en1gma	mount: /dev/mapper is not a block device	02:41
bobbyyu	Where can I find Java help?	02:41
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greg	en1gma: sorry man I gave it a shot.	02:42
en1gma	thanks man	02:42
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greg	en1gma: the ony thing i can think of is to run dmseg and see if you can get a better /dev	02:43
en1gma	want me to paste output to pastebin.ca	02:44
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greg	don't know what that is or how to access it	02:45
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en1gma	http://pastebin.ca/179190	02:46
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en1gma	i dont know anything	02:46
en1gma	and im brand new to kubuntu	02:46
en1gma	i used to run slack	02:46
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en1gma	so im not real real nooBish	02:46
hv	hi	02:46
en1gma	hi	02:47
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shawn_	hi I'm trying to upgrade to edgy... and well thereis alot of unmet dependencies it's complaining about, reccomendations?	02:47
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snax	make sure you switched all your repository lines over to edgy	02:48
snax	and do sudo aptitude dist-upgrade	02:48
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Jucato_	and be prepared for daily updates and some random broken from time to time	02:49
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shawn_	snax and then what?	02:49
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snax	say yes	02:49
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Samuli^	sudo sed -e 's/dapper/edgy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade	02:50
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Samuli^	but as you know that WILL break your system, probably.	02:50
Dink	shawn_, just compile your own kernel and wait till edgy becomes stable ;)	02:51
shawn_	wants to remove all python stuff but it also wants to remove sysvinit... concern	02:51
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snax	ah, that's fine	02:51
shawn_	how's that fine	02:51
snax	there is a new startup package called upstart in edgy	02:51
Jucato	shawn_: you are doing dist-upgrade right?	02:51
shawn_	yes	02:51
snax	that replaces the usual sysvinit stuff	02:51
snax	it's backwards compatible though	02:52
Jucato	shawn_: edgy will really replace a lot of stuff	02:52
Jucato	dist-upgrade removes stuff when necessary	02:52
shawn_	I've upadated to dapper a while back and ran that for a while in unstable	02:52
snax	so, amarok didn't like writing the tags for flac files, so I enabled the backports repository and upgraded it, and now it won't play flac at all :(	02:53
Samuli^	unreleased dapper is not unreleased edgy though.	02:53
shawn_	is the update sever being really slow for everyone else (for edgy)?	02:53
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Samuli^	dapper was sort of minor updates compared to edgy which is supposed to be the 'testing' platform for all new and great.	02:54
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shawn_	yes I know	02:54
Admiral_Chicago	Samuli^, dapper was a major update	02:55
Jucato	compared to Edgy? maybe not that much	02:55
Admiral_Chicago	snax, yea thats why you are super careful with backports	02:55
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Admiral_Chicago	troy, what do you mean "will get'	02:56
Jucato	troy: we'll know in a few weeks, I guess	02:56
Admiral_Chicago	ah i see	02:56
Jucato	er make that months. lol... :)	02:56
Admiral_Chicago	the only gripe i have (non Edgy) is that XGL is so bulky	02:56
Admiral_Chicago	taking up all the processor	02:56
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Samuli^	not for me.	02:57
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Samuli^	30% if I'm spinning the cube as fast as I can. System-monitor posts ~0,2% load averages	02:58
troy	haven't tried edgy yet - downloading knot3 now... I need to see how the amd64+32bit packages support is :)	02:58
en1gma	how do i start konq as root	02:59
troy	en1gma: kdesu konqueror	02:59
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en1gma	root@ubuntu://# kdesu konqueror	02:59
en1gma	Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server	02:59
nimnrod	i still don't have a clue how to install themes here... i donwload the files from http://www.kde-look.org but i have no idea how to make them work	02:59
Admiral_Chicago	Samuli^, mine can go up to 100	02:59
troy	en1gma: weird - doesn't do that here...	03:00
en1gma	im on live dvd	03:00
gekko`	troy: because he's logged in as root :-P	03:00
shawn_	do it in the run box	03:00
Samuli^	Admiral_Chicago, what processor do you have?	03:00
Admiral_Chicago	en1gma, do that in "run command"	03:00
shawn_	en1gma	03:00
Admiral_Chicago	A P4 3.0 Ghz Northwood with HT	03:00
snax	if I disable the backport repos, is there an easy way to force downgrade all packages that came from it?	03:00
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Admiral_Chicago	snax, not sure	03:00
en1gma	i cant run anythign	03:01
en1gma	it wont open	03:01
shawn_	hmm	03:01
troy	en1gma: what does 'echo $DISPLAY' say?	03:01
en1gma	i just closed it 1 sec	03:01
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grout	how can i find out if i have x.org or xfree86?	03:01
snax	are you running ubuntu?	03:01
en1gma	opened new term and it working i think	03:01
shawn_	you probally have xorg	03:01
snax	then xorg	03:02
Admiral_Chicago	grout, /etc/X11	03:02
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grout	theres just a script in that dir	03:03
grout	what does that mean?	03:03
Admiral_Chicago	grout, hold on	03:03
troy	grout: xdpyinfo \| grep version	03:03
nimnrod	i still don't have a clue how to install themes here... i donwload the files from http://www.kde-look.org but i have no idea how to make them work	03:04
bobbyyu	I have a problem with Java with Kubuntu: It says "The local variable XXX is not read"	03:04
bobbyyu	when I try to compile something	03:04
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Dink	probably dont have jave jdk in your path	03:04
troy	nimnrod: you're downloading tarballs (tar.gz, tgz, etc.) files from that site, right? You have to select those tarballs from the theme manager	03:04
Dink	java*	03:04
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bobbyyu	How do I set it in Kubuntu?	03:05
nimnrod	i dont even know if i have a theme manager	03:05
Dink	edit your .profile and set it	03:05
bobbyyu	Where's that?	03:05
Admiral_Chicago	grout, that folder has several icons	03:05
nimnrod	:-s	03:05
troy	nimnrod: type 'ALT-F2', type 'kcontrol', select appearance and Themes, then Theme Manager	03:06
en1gma	mount -t <fs type> what i put for ntfs	03:06
Dink	/etc/profile	03:06
en1gma	and for linux too cause i have 2 partions	03:06
troy	nimnrod: then click Install New Theme, and select the file you downloaded	03:06
snax	bobbyyu: it sounds like it is compiling ok but warning about an unused local variable in the actual Java code	03:06
nimnrod	troy: thank you!	03:06
troy	nimnrod: theme manager is hidden by kubuntu's control panel (which is different than kcontrol, the standard kde control panel)	03:07
bobbyyu	No, all my variables are declared correctly	03:07
bobbyyu	I even tried it on my old programs	03:07
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bobbyyu	They were compiling well before	03:07
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snax	maybe turn off warnings, then?	03:07
snax	if it's warning about it there is really a problem in your code	03:08
snax	otherwise you've found a bug in the compiler	03:08
bobbyyu	How do I turn off the warning?	03:08
snax	probably javac -h will tell you	03:09
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snax	so, how do you get KDE 3.5.4 in dapper as the topic suggests can be done	03:09
Dink	you probably have it already	03:10
Dink	help about kde :p	03:10
snax	3.5.2 here	03:10
Jucato	Dink: not unless he upgraded manually	03:10
Dink	hmm i dont recall doing it manually might be my repository	03:11
Samuli^	snax, may I suggest google: kde 3.5.4 ubuntu	03:11
Jucato	snax: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php	03:11
Jucato	a word of caution, though. there are known bugs in KDE 3.5.4 on Dapper	03:11
Samuli^	Dink, well all you need to do manually is to update your sources.list.	03:12
shawn_	still getting	03:12
shawn_	koffice-libs: Depends: koffice-data (< 1:1.5.1) but 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2 is installed	03:12
shawn_	krita: Depends: koffice-libs (>= 1:1.5.2) but 1:1.5.0-0ubuntu9 is installed	03:12
shawn_	libggi2: Depends: libgii1 (>= 1:1.0.1) but it is not installed	03:12
shawn_	python2.4-twisted-core: Depends: python2.4-twisted-bin	03:12
shawn_	any ideas	03:12
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Jucato	shawn_: you are using dist-upgrade right?	03:12
shawn_	I am	03:13
Samuli^	Jucato, and there is no known bugs on kde 3.5.2? :)	03:13
Jucato	Samuli^: there are of course. but comparing the 2, there are more annoying bugs in 3.5.4	03:13
snax	why on earth is it trying to pull in XMMS	03:13
troy	shawn_: I had to remove and reinstall koffice to get past a similar error	03:14
Jucato	snax: something about Kopete depending on XMMS.	03:14
shawn_	I'm trying to get uninstall it	03:14
troy	Samuli^: it's better tested on dapper anyway :)	03:14
troy	Samuli^: 3.5.2, I mean, is better tested	03:14
shawn_	apt-get remove koffice is there anything else I can do to remove it?	03:15
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Jucato	3.5.2 was built for Dapper, 3.5.4 was built for Edgy. the 3.5.4 for Dapper is just a backport	03:15
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troy	shawn_: you might have to nuke some reverse dependancies as well, but apt will tell you what they are :)	03:15
troy	just make a note so you can reinstall it later :)	03:15
shawn_	?	03:15
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shawn_	apt has not told me to get rid of repos	03:16
Samuli^	Jucato, 3.5.4 wasn't built for edgy. Doesn't it state that the repos stated on KDE-site are for _dapper_ ?	03:16
Jucato	Samuli^: 3.5.4 was built for Edgy because Edgy has it by default. why would they post repos for Edgy if it's already installed on Edgy?	03:16
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troy	Jucato: it's not a backport	03:17
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troy	Jucato: new kde releases are usually built for the current release also, independantly of what's happening in ubuntu+1	03:17
Jucato	ok, let me rephrase that: "backport"	03:17
Samuli^	jucato, I'm sure they've made another build for edgy, but those repositories that are for dapper are build for dapper.	03:18
Samuli^	Jucato, otherwise A LOT of dependencies would be broken.	03:18
troy	they're the same packages that would exist if edgy never existed :)	03:18
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shawn_	so no ideas how to fix my problem?	03:21
Samuli^	let me rephrase that shrug = nod ? :)	03:21
snax	what are the major user-visible advantages that edgy has over dapper (at least as far as kubuntu goes)	03:22
flaccid_	edgy is new one?	03:22
snax	yeah	03:22
lupine_85	generally snappier IMO :)	03:23
Samuli^	edgy is supposed to have compiz and xgl, right?	03:23
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en1gma	kubuntu/ubuntu does not support software raid upon fresh install (i dont believe)	03:23
snax	no	03:23
lupine_85	sory of	03:23
lupine_85	sort*	03:23
lupine_85	they're in the repos	03:23
en1gma	the live cd/dvd does not come with dmraid which is needed	03:24
Samuli^	they are in the dapper-repos too.	03:24
en1gma	and the live dvd dont have a compiler	03:24
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Jucato	en1gma: it should	03:24
lupine_85	bdsm pwns :D (well, it will be bdsm soon....)	03:24
en1gma	i tried to compile it wouldnt	03:24
Jucato	it's included, but not installed	03:24
Jucato	install "build-essential"	03:25
en1gma	the compiler od dmraid	03:25
lupine_85	en1gma: just install dmraid	03:25
lupine_85	!dmraid	03:25
ubotu	dmraid: Device-Mapper Software RAID support tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9+1.0.0.rc9-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 117 kB, installed size 460 kB	03:25
en1gma	where is it	03:25
lupine_85	ah, in universe	03:25
lupine_85	download the .deb and install from there?	03:25
shawn_	k how to I gey koffice off if apt-get remove won't work?	03:25
shawn_	*get	03:25
lupine_85	http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu	03:25
Jucato	en1gma: build-essential is in main, if that was what you were asking	03:25
en1gma	ive never used kubunutu	03:25
en1gma	well i was wanting that cause i thought i had to build dmraid	03:26
en1gma	if i can just install dmraid that would be nice	03:26
lupine_85	it might work	03:26
lupine_85	TBH I think you'd be better off with the alt install CD	03:26
lupine_85	since it supports RAID/LVM out of the box, IIRC	03:26
en1gma	i have know idea where to start	03:26
lupine_85	!alternate	03:26
ubotu	The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.	03:26
en1gma	i have the dvd	03:27
lupine_85	it's not on the DVD	03:27
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en1gma	omfg	03:27
en1gma	can i just dload the package and install it	03:27
Samuli^	en1gma, sure.	03:27
en1gma	i dont want whole cd just for 100KB apps	03:27
en1gma	what tool do i use	03:27
Samuli^	do you have working X?	03:27
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en1gma	yea i in x now	03:27
shawn_	damn	03:28
rawrness	wow the room became dead again	03:28
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flaccid_	whats this knot business?	03:29
lupine_85	en1gma: you don't understand. The live CD installer doesn't support raid install	03:29
lupine_85	it's not pretty if you try to hack it yourself	03:29
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Jucato	I thought he was using the Live DVD?	03:30
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Jucato	oh well...	03:30
Samuli^	en1gma, sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the universe repository.	03:30
lupine_85	live cd==live dvd, surely?	03:30
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Jucato	probably the installer is the same? I wouldn't know...	03:31
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Samuli^	en1gma, then do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install dmraid	03:31
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Samuli^	thank you last.fm	03:32
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soulrider	hi everyone	03:34
DFM	hello	03:34
Dink	2.6.18 and ati 8.29.6 woot :)	03:34
shawn_	got the install going again	03:35
shawn_	woo	03:35
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troy	does anyone know where cups keeps its installed ppds?	03:38
ubuntu	hey guys, i did an upgrade w/ adept...something screwed up. when i rebooted grub couldn't find the boot file system (it was looking for hd1,6 instead of hd0,6). i booted w/ the live cd and changed it to hd1,6 like it should have been. now it gets past grub to the kubuntu boot message "waiting for root filesystem" (i.e. after mounting)...what's the problem now?	03:39
ubuntu	^^^to hd0,6 like it should have been	03:40
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Dink	you can hit esc or something go back to previous kernel and try again ?	03:41
ubuntu	yeah, i tried kernel 26 (instead of 27) ...no dice either	03:41
larson9999	ubuntu: i don't know if this will help but my system hangs there sometimes. the only way i've found to get past it is to unplug the power cord and plug it back in.	03:42
ubuntu	weird. worth a try next time i boot	03:43
Dink	what type of hdd do you have ?	03:43
Dink	ide,sata	03:43
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ubuntu	hda is sata, hdb and hdc are ide	03:44
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ubuntu	the boot partition is hda7	03:44
ubuntu	it did work :D	03:44
larson9999	Ubugtu: yeah, it's probably something with my power management thing i could fix if i knew what to look for. but since unplugging it works when it hangs there, i'm not looking hard for the fix.	03:44
Dink	ohh wait you did and upgrade ... hmm there is a known issue when you compile your own that it does not recognize sata and/or secondary hdd	03:44
Zaire	can anyone tell me where the linux kernel header is located?	03:44
larson9999	Ubugtu: that was for ubuntu	03:45
crimsun	Zaire: after you install the linux-headers-$(uname -r) package, it's in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build	03:45
ubuntu	larson9999 got it, tnx	03:45
larson9999	ubuntu: were you talking to me when you said it worked?	03:45
Zaire	k thanks :)	03:45
ubuntu	dink: i didn't compile my own in this case	03:45
Dink	yea i just noticed it	03:46
Dink	it probably is not discovering your sata drive	03:46
ubuntu	larson9999: nope, that was to dink -- i will start adding names :)	03:46
ubuntu	dink: doesn't the fact that grub makes it mean that it found the sata tho?	03:46
flaccid_	what is the minimise all windows action called in keyboard shortcuts?	03:46
ubuntu	dink: i mean if it wasn't finding it it would get stuck at the grub stage, and not get the bootsplash up, right?	03:46
flaccid_	hmmm i can never find it	03:47
ubuntu	dink: agh, i got it	03:48
flaccid_	ah toggle showing desktop	03:48
Jucato	flaccid_: Ctrl+Alt+D	03:48
ubuntu	dink: the menu.lst has a wrong command...	03:48
ubuntu	root=/dev/hdd7 instead of root=/dev/hda7	03:49
Dink	ahh	03:49
ubuntu	seems like it should work when i reboot...tnx	03:49
Dink	sorry was responding to an email	03:49
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ubuntu	np, later	03:49
Dink	that would do it	03:49
soulrider	!info mdadm	03:50
ubotu	mdadm: tool to administer Linux md device arrays (software RAID). In component main, is standard. Version 1.12.0-1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 103 kB, installed size 348 kB	03:50
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troy	okay - when I'm using cups on localhost:631, it's asking for an admin password -- what exactly is it wanting? my username and password again does not work, and root has no password...	03:52
lupine_85	troy: cupsys:cupsys ?	03:53
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flaccid_	yeah what is the default cups admin login ?	03:54
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nimnrod	quanta editor did something rare to my system... i unisntalled the program but when i click a link wont open konqueror but quanta	03:55
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nimnrod	it says: KDEInit could not launch quanta	03:57
nimnrod	:-/	03:57
warpzone	hey, with the lat Xorg update, has anybody else gotten a raging Xorg memory leak?	03:57
warpzone	*last	03:58
Admiral_Chicago	warpzone, how long ago?	03:59
warpzone	I"m not sure, maybe four of five days ago. Wasn't Xorg update recently?	03:59
Admiral_Chicago	i have no idea, check out the change log	04:00
warpzone	sure, how would I do that?	04:00
shawn_	blah updating the fonts.... is there an eazy way to remove all non eglish fonts from my system	04:00
Admiral_Chicago	visit the website, i'll probably be on there	04:00
Admiral_Chicago	shawn_, no idea	04:01
warpzone	alrighty, thanks admiral, will check	04:01
nimnrod	quanta editor did something rare to my system... i unisntalled the program but when i click a link wont open konqueror but quanta	04:01
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warpzone	nimnrod: isn't what broswer opens determined by the program the link appears in?	04:04
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nimnrod	the problem is that wont open the browser it will try to open quanta	04:06
nimnrod	and its a web link	04:06
nimnrod	im thinking that i need to restore the files association	04:07
warpzone	nimnrod: oh, I get it. I wouldn't have a clue how to do that./	04:07
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Jucato	nimnrod: try checking your File Associations for html or xhtml+xml	04:08
jmichaelx	has there been a fix for the bad flash-plugin update from last night?	04:08
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warpzone	jmichaelx: bad flash-plugin update, what does it do?	04:09
jmichaelx	warpzone: it just does nothing.... it downloads but cannot get configured	04:09
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nimnrod	Jucato: yep.. that was it.. i did try that before but i didnt realize that i was as root and the change did not affect my normal user account	04:10
Jucato	nimnrod: ok. it's strange that installing Quanta change the File Associations. It didn't happen to me...	04:11
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nimnrod	it might be something i did i just don't remember what or when... hehehe	04:12
Jucato	:P	04:14
rawrness	anyone know ay good p2ps for kubuntu?	04:15
Healot	what p2p protocol?	04:16
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rawrness	such as like winmx was before it got shutdown.	04:16
abattoir	!apollon	04:17
ubotu	apollon: KDE-based interface to the giFT file-sharing system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-2.2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 445 kB, installed size 1684 kB	04:17
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shawn_	mdadm, lvm-common and lvm2 don't wanna install right in my edgy upgrade... what do these do and any idea how to get them to install if need be	04:17
rawrness	winmx was the best.	04:17
abattoir	rawrness: ^^^that supports FastTrack(Kazaa), Gnutella(Limewire) and OpenFT, if you install the right plugins	04:17
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rawrness	?	04:17
Jucato	huh? abattoir's alive???	04:17
snax	I generally steer clear of p2p these days	04:18
snax	don't feel like getting sued	04:18
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abattoir	Jucato: bleh :P	04:18
rawrness	can't sue us all.	04:19
shawn_	I asked right now because none of my browsers are working so I can't check myself	04:19
snax	agreed	04:19
snax	you go first :P	04:19
larson9999	i don't steer clear of p2ps but i got all the music i wanted years ago :) and my library has free dvds for the checkout	04:20
rawrness	I just rip all my dvds.	04:21
rawrness	I wonder how much of a penatity i would get if sued.	04:22
rawrness	I am techincaly a minor.......	04:22
snax	it would be your parents to get sued, then	04:22
rawrness	Fun.	04:22
rawrness	we can't afford to buy food XD	04:22
rawrness	half the time.	04:23
rawrness	wouldn't get much out sueing us.	04:23
snax	you'd be looking at $10,000 settlements or more depending on how much you were caught with	04:23
rawrness	8 gigs at the min.	04:23
Jucato	ok moving along to more legal talk...	04:24
rawrness	of course.	04:24
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warpzone	arg the xorg memory leak is killing me, xorg is up to 193m mem usage :( :( no solutions present in the forums	04:24
rawrness	I wonder how many people installed the nonfree codecs	04:24
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rawrness	even if it may a legality,.	04:25
Jucato	it's not a legal issue in some countries	04:25
rawrness	I would think it so in the us	04:25
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Jucato	well that's their (US citizens) problem, unfortunately...	04:26
Admiral_Chicago	n00b question here, if I use GParted, that won't affect grub will it?	04:27
jj_	depends on what you do	04:27
Jucato	Admiral_Chicago: depends	04:27
Admiral_Chicago	resize two partions	04:27
jj_	boot part?	04:27
Admiral_Chicago	i'm on Edgy, all my data is on dapper	04:28
Admiral_Chicago	i want to decrease dapper size, increase Edgy so I can transfer all my files	04:28
jj_	your fine	04:28
Admiral_Chicago	thanks	04:28
rawrness	The us sucks.	04:29
jj_	why might i ask?	04:29
rawrness	I want a voucher education system	04:29
rawrness	like in norway.	04:29
jj_	why	04:29
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rawrness	It there for gives a choice in schools	04:30
rawrness	rather being assigned by area code	04:30
rawrness	The american education system has gone down hill.	04:30
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warpzone	hm, I know synaptic has a way to force a previous version of package. can adept do the same thing?	04:31
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Jucato	warpzone: afaik, no	04:31
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jj_	seems like there should be though	04:31
warpzone	Jucato: :(	04:31
Jucato	like I said, afaik. I hope I'm wrong...	04:32
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[-KaSatKa-]	How can i enter init 3?	04:32
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Admiral_Chicago	[-KaSatKa-] , dapper?	04:33
[-KaSatKa-]	Yes	04:33
Admiral_Chicago	rawrness, vouchers are so stupid	04:33
Admiral_Chicago	join me in #kubuntu-offtopic	04:34
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c00i90wn	Hi theere, I'm following this guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186200 but when I reboot it fires up Xgl (at least I think so) and then it just waits and after that I get back to the loadscreen that appears when mounting root filesystem, etc but this time without any progress nor text, I don't get the usual login prompt (graphical) so I press ctra alt F1 and change ServerCmd back to the usual and everything works fine again, the ...	04:37
rawrness	ahh didn't know there was a offtopic	04:37
c00i90wn	... question is, why isn't working with the changed ServerCmd ?	04:37
c00i90wn	I'm using kubuntu dapper	04:37
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rawrness	and now i reitre	04:40
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JavierElectrico	Hi	04:40
Admiral_Chicago	c00i90wn, #ubuntu-xgl	04:41
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Jucato	hm... are there "open source" fonts?	04:42
flaccid_	there is	04:43
flaccid_	a good site on it	04:43
flaccid_	heh can't remember it	04:43
flaccid_	!fonts	04:43
ubotu	Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto	04:43
ubotu	No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer	04:43
Jucato	heh	04:43
flaccid_	hmm	04:43
Jucato	no I don't want msttcorefonts :P	04:43
warpzone	arg need to restart X	04:43
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Jucato	silly ubotu :)	04:43
flaccid_	i wish there was a way to search ubotu	04:43
flaccid_	search for font	04:43
Jucato	heh	04:43
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flaccid_	do you want free or open fonts?	04:44
Admiral_Chicago	that would be cool	04:44
Jucato	hm... either would be good...	04:44
larson9999	free and open	04:44
Admiral_Chicago	F&O	04:45
flaccid_	you want to change an open font?	04:45
larson9999	they're all free 'cause them aint our credit cards'	04:45
Jucato	I'm actually looking for a particular kind of font...	04:45
NameNomad	how do I install Flashplayer on Konqueror?	04:45
NameNomad	I've tried working through adept	04:45
NameNomad	the command line	04:45
NameNomad	in the home folder	04:45
flaccid_	google returns a lot	04:45
Jucato	something like the font for old terminals/computers	04:45
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flaccid_	find out the font name and then search?	04:46
josh_	whats up people... quick question... what is the conf file i need to modify to allow the localhost to ftp to itself?	04:46
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Jucato	flaccid_: the problem is finding the font name :P	04:47
flaccid_	hmm	04:47
josh_	anyone?	04:48
Jucato	I have an idea what it looks like, but I just don't know what it is called... oh well... time to Google	04:48
flaccid_	josh_: you mean you can't do ftp localhost?	04:48
josh_	nope	04:48
flaccid_	i'll just install proftpd	04:48
josh_	i already have that	04:49
flaccid_	but i don't!	04:49
josh_	ahh	04:49
josh_	ok	04:49
josh_	gotcha	04:49
flaccid_	you running standalone?	04:49
josh_	is it possible my router isn't letting that happen?	04:49
josh_	yes	04:49
flaccid_	it wouldn't go through your router if its localhost	04:50
josh_	i can access the ftp from outside the network	04:50
flaccid_	1sec i'll see if it allows localhost by default	04:50
josh_	well outside the network is incorrect... i can access it from every computer but mine	04:50
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flaccid_	incorrect?	04:50
josh_	yeah... its not just outsiders that can its all 5 computers inside the network also....	04:51
josh_	the computer running the server is the only one that cant log into itself	04:51
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mark_2	not so uncommon	04:52
mark_2	tho i dont know how to fix it :)	04:52
josh_	lol	04:52
josh_	well im sure there is some conf file that i dont know about that has it blocked for some reason...	04:52
flaccid_	josh_: on default install it allows localhost	04:53
Jucato	flaccid_: found a font. http://desktoppub.about.com/library/fonts/dd/uc_digitek.htm (it's too thick, though)	04:53
josh_	hmm	04:53
flaccid_	could it be firewall?	04:53
josh_	well something has gone horribly wrong then...	04:53
josh_	i dont have a firewall set and i am dmzed	04:53
flaccid_	did you edit the proftpd conf at all?	04:55
mark_2	eww	04:55
josh_	yeah but only to set attribs for ftpusers and change the port number it listens for	04:55
mark_2	my cat is chewing and smelling an old unwashed sock	04:55
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Jucato	poor cat	04:55
NameNomad	how can I install flashplayer if my browser is Konqueror?	04:56
mark_2	she seems to like it >.>	04:56
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NameNomad	should I even use Konqueror as my browser, or switch to mozilla?	04:56
flaccid_	josh_: you changed port number?	04:56
mark_2	mozilla is better generally	04:56
josh_	yes	04:56
Zaire	anyone know how to get sound on realplayer?	04:56
josh_	my cable company is a bunghole and block 21 and 80	04:57
Jucato	NameNomad: download the flasphlugin-nonfree package. make sure the multiverse repository is enabled, and that dapper-backports is disabled	04:57
josh_	so i had to set ftp up on 77	04:57
flaccid_	Jucato: ah nice. but yes think	04:57
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flaccid_	josh_: what does this return sudo netstat -tap \| grep ftp	04:58
Zaire	can you browse the net josh	04:58
josh_	tcp 0 0 :rje :* LISTEN 4417/proftpd: (acce	04:58
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Zaire	if you can browse the net then 80 isn't blocked cause if it were you couldn't	04:58
DeadSouL	hello all	04:59
mark_2	maybe the webpages are ghost webpages	04:59
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mark_2	like in that movie, pulse	04:59
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flaccid_	josh_: so ftp localhost 77 doesn't work?	04:59
josh_	ok they block 80 for incoming	04:59
josh_	nope	04:59
Zaire	still can anyone tell me how to get audio on realplayer	05:00
Zaire	Im trying to stream from ifilm.com and I get no audio	05:00
mark_2	have you tried 'aoss realplayer'?	05:00
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flaccid_	hmm how can i do a netstat -tap and see the actual port numbers they are listening on?	05:00
mark_2	i think i remember it uses oss	05:00
flaccid_	josh_: what does host localhost return?	05:01
mark_2	is it firefox embedded?	05:01
mark_2	zaire?	05:01
josh_	connection refused	05:01
DeadSouL	What was the name of p2p sharing program which starts with fire....?	05:01
mark_2	firewire?	05:01
jj_	lol	05:01
josh_	thats limewire	05:01
flaccid_	josh_: host localhost returns connection refused?	05:01
josh_	yeah lol	05:01
Zaire	not really I had to get an extension to grab the player	05:01
josh_	****ed up huh	05:01
flaccid_	josh_: what does ping localhost do?	05:02
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DeadSouL	:) No in Ubuntu help it syas that firewire is video capturing program	05:02
josh_	pings me	05:02
flaccid_	127.0.0.1 ?	05:02
josh_	same	05:02
mark_2	ok, so the player is launched by you, not inside an ifilm webpage?	05:02
flaccid_	josh_: pastebin your /etc/hosts file	05:02
Zaire	nope it launchs outside	05:03
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flaccid_	!proftpd	05:03
ubotu	proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.10-27ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 351 kB, installed size 1052 kB	05:03
mark_2	then install alsa-oss, and do aoss realplayer	05:03
Zaire	but I have no audio oddly enough	05:03
josh_	127.0.0.1 localhost Linux	05:03
josh_	thats the only line i modified... the rest is the mac addy and eth0 stuff	05:03
josh_	ipv6 stuff i mean	05:04
flaccid_	try doing 127.0.0.1 localhost	05:04
flaccid_	the new line 127.0.1.1 linux linux.domain.tld	05:04
josh_	times out	05:04
flaccid_	replacing domain.tld with your lan domain	05:04
Zaire	there is no aoss realplayer package	05:05
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josh_	i can ping linux and get a response, ping 127.0.0.1 and get response and ping localhost and get response	05:05
flaccid_	josh_: this is why you should change the hosts file	05:05
josh_	im not in a domain though	05:06
flaccid_	you should be	05:06
josh_	so no reason to add a domain name to my hosts file	05:06
flaccid_	make your own	05:06
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MasterEvilAce	sup ladies	05:06
josh_	this computer would be outside the domain anyway then...	05:06
flaccid_	josh_: this is the domain of your lan	05:07
flaccid_	josh_: also pastebin your proftpd.conf	05:07
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josh_	phone call bbiaf	05:07
flaccid_	bbiaf?	05:07
josh_	be back in a few	05:08
flaccid_	in a few ok	05:08
flaccid_	i'm going to have a shower	05:08
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josh_	lol	05:08
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Jucato	!games > Jucato	05:32
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nonickname	can anyone tell me what the device dm-0 is?	05:41
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nonickname	does dm stand for disk manager?	05:44
nonickname	can you hear me now?	05:44
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CraZy675	I was wondering if anyone was aware of any software that would sync your id3 tags on your mp3 like musicbrainz does	05:48
phlatus	hello	05:49
CraZy675	i guess this is not the most active time of this channel	05:52
CraZy675	at this time of day	05:52
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jamadagni	hello people	05:53
jamadagni	i am running dapper	05:53
jamadagni	and while compiling a program i get the errro:	05:54
jamadagni	checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!	05:54
jamadagni	now i have installed xserver-xorg-dev and dependencies	05:54
jamadagni	still i get this error	05:54
jamadagni	what to do?	05:54
jamadagni	thanks	05:54
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flaccid_	jamadagni: did you google the problem?	05:55
flaccid_	jamadagni: 1st result: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-23570.html	05:57
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jamadagni	sorry flaccid_, i should have done so. thanks	05:59
flaccid_	hehe np	05:59
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flaccid_	how to clear dns lookup cache?	06:01
SillyZ	gevening	06:02
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flaccid_	how to export a layer in krita for .psd?	06:05
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nai	hi, my old laptop has kubuntu.... now for some odd reason after entering a right password and user login it always goes back to the login screen the desktop wont launch	06:12
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DeadSouL	Is there a way to retrieve our Jabber account's password	06:14
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Linux_Galore	nai: press ctrl alt F1 then try login, if it doesnt work it means you have the wrong user name and password	06:27
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mom	hi how come i my other accounts cant log in.... i have 4 accounts only this one is working,,, even the first accoutn wont login ....im using the correct user and password for sure. but when i hit log in button it comes back to the login screen without any warnings or what soever	06:34
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DeadSouL	mom you have to use small characters for screenname	06:36
DeadSouL	not capitals	06:37
Dr_Willis	Or theres some major kde config screwup.	06:37
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mom	yes they are in small	06:37
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mom	ok i go switch	06:38
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mom	cant switch	06:40
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mom	is there a way to find outwhats the problem	06:40
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Linux_Galore	mom: dare say you trying to use the wrong password for that account	06:44
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mom	its impossible forme to be qrong because i set it up my self and i tried it so many times different accounts,,,,i really feel something is wrong.	06:45
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Linux_Galore	mom: I admin over 300 Linux machines, amazing all the password work	06:47
Linux_Galore	mom: just change the "users" password from you main account	06:47
Linux_Galore	mom: you can do it under kcontrol	06:47
Linux_Galore	mom: then try login again	06:48
mom	hmmm...how come only this account works... is there a way to check if they are working because im new but i know i keyed in the right user and password for all 3 accounts that are not working	06:48
mom	thats the prob.... my main account wont login too...	06:48
Linux_Galore	mom: theres a utility in kcontrol to manage the user accounts	06:48
Linux_Galore	mom: well it could be a bad hardisk	06:49
mom	kuser? i go try	06:49
mom	wait about bad hard disk how do i know;.... that could be som ehting cause this is an old laptop.... i guess that could be	06:49
mom	i cant login kuser it wont accept my root password;...	06:50
Linux_Galore	mom: could be sector corruptions causing the passwords hash's to fail	06:50
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mom	so if htats the prob what can i do/ or is there a solution or goodbye/	06:50
Healot	if the shadow fail is corrupted...	06:50
Linux_Galore	mom: just type sudo passwd	06:51
mom	i got in the terminal but in kuser it wont go in	06:51
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mom	error opening /etc/shadow for reading...i tried launching kuser from terminal	06:52
Lynoure	sudo kuser ?	06:53
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Healot	kdesu	06:53
mom	locales n ot supported by x	06:54
mom	then nothing happens	06:54
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Lynoure	Healot: thank you, I'm daft after just waking up	06:54
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mom	how do i determine if my hdis the problem	06:55
ubuntu	Hi, after completing kubuntu install at reboot I got this error while logging in: " Could not start kstartupconfig. Check your install" Not a nice start for first time kubuntu use. Any Idea? Do I have to reinstall it again?	06:55
Linux_Galore	ubuntu it does nothing	06:56
Linux_Galore	Linux_Galore: can you get to the desktop	06:56
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ubuntu	Linux_Galoreo, So what do I have to do?	06:57
Linux_Galore	ubuntu can you get to your desktop	06:57
ubuntu	I am currently booted with kubuntu livecd	06:57
ubuntu	So, I can mount if you wish	06:57
Linux_Galore	ubuntu /me smacks head on wall	06:58
Linux_Galore	can "you" get to your desktop . simple yes or no	06:58
ubuntu	yes	06:58
mom	ok i go check	06:58
Linux_Galore	ubuntuok then there is no real issue all thats happening is the setup script isnt working, to be honest it doesnt nothing but annoy you	06:59
ubuntu	Linux_Galore No I am not able to do Anything with what I have installed. As I said, I have booted with livecd. This is what I said and you did ask me the same question again	06:59
ubuntu	Linux_Galore No I am not able to get to my desktop	06:59
ubuntu	Linux_Galore No I am not able to do anything with what I installed	07:00
Linux_Galore	ubuntu so you "booting" from a live CD and you havent done an install ??	07:00
Linux_Galore	ubuntu so the answer is "no"	07:00
ubuntu	I am booting from live cd because the install i have done fails!	07:00
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Linux_Galore	ubuntu so you boot up from the hardisk and what do you see	07:00
ubuntu	and yes, I have done an install, as previously stated, and when trying to login I get the above error and it kicks me back to locgin screen	07:00
Linux_Galore	ubuntu also what version of kubuntu are you using	07:01
ubuntu	Linux_Galore I boot up from hd and get all the way to kde login succesfully	07:01
ubuntu	latest one. 6.06.1	07:01
Linux_Galore	ubuntu ok that basically means Linux is working fine the desktop login is having issues	07:01
ubuntu	when I put my user ID and passwd then I get that error and return back to same logon screen	07:02
ubuntu	probably	07:02
Linux_Galore	ubuntu that basically means you have the wrong user and password	07:02
ubuntu	assuming so (which I doubt as typed my data at install time) what to do?	07:02
Linux_Galore	ubuntu you need to reset the password manually	07:03
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ubuntu	from where? live cd or boot from hd?	07:03
Linux_Galore	ubuntu if you swap to a terminal with ctrl alt f1 and try to login does it fail	07:03
ubuntu	no it does not fail. Contrary, I am succesfully able to log on	07:04
Linux_Galore	ubuntu ok that tells me there is a problem with kde	07:04
Linux_Galore	ubuntu login in a terminal type rm -rf .kde	07:04
Linux_Galore	ubuntu then type halt	07:05
ubuntu	in a terminal from live cd, right?	07:05
Linux_Galore	ubuntu I I want you to do anything on the live CD I will say "go and use the live cd"	07:05
ubuntu	so I have to reboot as am using the same pc now	07:06
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ubuntu	and will loose connection	07:06
Linux_Galore	ubuntu boot up of the hardisk and press ctrl alt F1	07:06
Linux_Galore	ubuntu then login	07:06
ubuntu	with my user ID	07:06
feet	yes	07:06
Linux_Galore	yes	07:07
ubuntu	then will type rm -rf .kde and then halt	07:07
ubuntu	then what next?	07:07
Linux_Galore	ubuntu reboot it should work	07:07
feet	sudo reboot :-)	07:07
ubuntu	thank you	07:07
ubuntu	correct	07:07
ubuntu	bye	07:07
ubuntu	or init 6	07:07
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feet	lol	07:07
feet	i was going to ask something and now i forgot.. oh yeah!	07:08
Linux_Galore	its amazing I did a pile of kubuntu install last month I only had issues with X	07:08
feet	when i go to do anything with apt-get, it says something about "The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer needed blah blah blah"... and lists nearly all the packages mentioned in kubuntu-desktop... whats up with that?	07:08
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Linux_Galore	feet: depends what your trying to install	07:09
Linux_Galore	or have installed	07:10
feet	anything	07:10
feet	anything at all	07:10
feet	oh could be what i have installed too	07:10
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feet	or dont have	07:10
Linux_Galore	feet: tells me you have installed another working graphical enviroment for some weird reason and the base kubuntu-desktop has been deprecated	07:10
feet	i dont have anything but KDE	07:11
feet	note:i dont have kubuntu-desktop, would it complain because of this?	07:11
Linux_Galore	feet: look in package manager and search for kde bet you have two version of kde installed	07:12
feet	oh	07:12
Linux_Galore	feet: just remove the old one	07:12
feet	and how do i do that	07:12
feet	O_o	07:12
Linux_Galore	in the package manager	07:12
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feet	okay, just a tick, opening synaptic	07:13
feet	get rid of kdebase, you think??	07:13
Linux_Galore	feet: yeah look at the version number get rid of the one with the lower version	07:14
feet	oh	07:14
feet	hmm	07:14
Linux_Galore	feet: or just search for kubuntu	07:14
feet	theres kdebase and kde4base...	07:14
feet	i dont remember getting kde4base=\	07:15
Linux_Galore	feet: so you tried to update to kde 4 lol, you know its not finnished	07:15
feet	no	07:15
feet	i didnt	07:15
feet	=\	07:15
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Linux_Galore	well thats why it has "BETA" written all over it	07:15
feet	over what?	07:16
Jucato	maybe you added a repository from Kubuntu.org	07:16
feet	well im not the only one who uses this computer so its very likely someone else did	07:16
Linux_Galore	I suepect he/she has added the kde 4 repo on the home page	07:16
Linux_Galore	not a wise move of you not a developer	07:16
Jucato	If this page looks familiar to you: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.1.php then you probably added the KDE 4 repo by mistake	07:16
feet	nope	07:17
feet	uhh... well okay, now we can see what is wrong	07:17
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feet	what can i do now?	07:17
Linux_Galore	feet: remove the kde4 stuff	07:18
feet	it says to meet dependencies, it would remove just about everything in kubuntu-desktop =\	07:18
feet	oh no, wait i know how to do this	07:18
feet	good ol' export	07:18
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Jucato	ooh net split!!!	07:24
feet	secret maryo chronicles for one (we have a lot of games lol)	07:24
feet	wow big net split	07:24
Jucato	heh yeah	07:24
unix_infidel	is archive.ubuntu.org slow for anyone else?	07:25
Jucato	it will be slow/fast to some people depending on their internet connection and locale	07:25
feet	it would be slow, with everyone racing around getting edgy and being the main mirror..	07:25
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unix_infidel	Jucato: i'm usually at 150K in the southern united states.	07:26
unix_infidel	its REALLY slow, at about 2K/s	07:27
Jucato	afaik, archive.ubuntu.com is in UK?	07:27
feet	somewhere in europe yeh	07:27
feet	why not use us.archive.ubuntu.org ??	07:27
unix_infidel	feet: b/c that's usually slower.	07:28
unix_infidel	for me anyway.	07:29
feet	oh	07:29
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user___	Linux_Galore: I am back. I was able to enter in kubuntu	07:47
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user___	Linux_Galore: the user home directory was not even being created. So, I had to re-create it manually by using useradd	07:48
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user___	the strange thing, ( I was hopeing to switch from one distro to this and I already have an issue :-(, is that in accessing setup data, like users and groups after I login as administrator I am not able to see the users but rather I get this error: "Impossible to load the module Users & Groups Why is this?	07:50
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user___	Anybody can help me with the above question please?	07:51
osiris	sounds like a botched install	07:51
Linux_Galore	user__ fast way is install it again	07:51
Linux_Galore	yeah sounds like something is seriously broken	07:51
user___	install kubuntu entirely?	07:51
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Linux_Galore	user__ yep	07:52
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osiris	is this a kubuntu 64 install or something	07:52
user___	yes	07:52
osiris	install the 32	07:52
osiris	most 64 bit distro's are quite buggy	07:52
osiris	im sure i'll have 50 people tell me they run it with no issues, and im sure they do. but from what i have seen, 64 bit is a lot more touch and go, than 32	07:54
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user___	I do not know	07:57
Lynoure	ArrenLex: a netsplit	07:57
user___	ok	07:57
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aquablu	im using 6.06LTS drapper on a toshiba lappie	07:57
harleypig	!sound	07:57
ubotu	If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin	07:57
Jucato	the return of the netsplitters	07:57
ArrenLex	aquablu: they're not available from the ubuntu repositories AFAIK.	07:57
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harleypig	!card1	07:57
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about card1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	07:57
ArrenLex	Download them from the mplayer web site.	07:57
aquablu	ok Arren	07:57
harleypig	!card0	07:57
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about card0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	07:57
harleypig	shit	07:58
aquablu	then just put them in correct dir, what would be the path to put them in, if i do it manually	07:58
harleypig	Anyone point me to how to make alsa use card1 instaed of card0?	07:58
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aquablu	is it /usr/libwin32	07:58
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user___	and what would I loose or gain if instead of installing kubuntu64 I install kubuntu32 considering I run amd64 CPU?	07:59
osiris	stability	07:59
osiris	more ported apps	07:59
user___	and what would I loose?	08:00
ArrenLex	User: to be frank, nothing. You will not notice the speed-up. You might notice the binaries got a little bigger because of long pointers. What you'll lose is the ability to run many applications. Like flash.	08:00
ArrenLex	If you have lots of memory, like 4GB+, 64-bit allows you to access all of that. That's a big difference.	08:00
aquablu	You will need to go download one of the	08:00
aquablu	archives:	08:00
aquablu	j2sdk-1_4_2-doc.zip j2sdk-1_4_0-doc-ja.zip j2sdk-1_4_2-doc-ja.zip	08:00
aquablu	(choose the non-update version if this is the first installation).	08:00
aquablu	Please vis	08:00
aquablu	dam whats that mean	08:00
osiris	!pastebin > aquablu	08:01
user___	so, your advice is to download 32 bit iso and install kubuntu. correct?	08:01
osiris	yes	08:01
user___	ah, bty: what if I do not find an application I wish to install (ex. audacity)?	08:01
Jucato	!audacity	08:01
ubotu	audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1842 kB, installed size 5460 kB	08:01
osiris	then you might need to add some package repo's to get them	08:01
osiris	there are how-to's out there for that stuff	08:02
user___	and how to do so? I recall I have to modify adept to add more repository sites? is this correct?	08:02
osiris	!repos	08:02
ubotu	The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	08:02
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user___	I see	08:03
user___	I will be doing some reading and will ask later on	08:03
user___	let me download 32 bit as you adviced me to do and will install kubuntu again	08:04
user___	so this is what I must download: kubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso	08:04
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aquablu	whats the directory to put the win32 codecs in?	08:04
osiris	that, or the liveCD version	08:04
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user___	and what is this kubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso ?	08:05
osiris	the live version	08:05
user___	do Ihave to install alternative or desktop?	08:05
user___	I am looking at this site: http://na.mirror.garr.it/mirrors/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/6.06.1/ where is livecd?	08:05
osiris	either should work. alternate is for older/lower spec. machines	08:05
user___	osiris: you are saying live cd where do I get it?	08:05
Jucato	!w32codecs > aquablu	08:05
osiris	http://na.mirror.garr.it/mirrors/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/6.06.1/kubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso	08:06
osiris	thats the live cd. it lets you run kubuntu from ram, and install it whle the desktop is up	08:06
user___	so it is desktop for i386 same as this one then: kubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso	08:07
mjcar	where would I find out when the samba package is going to be upgraded in ubuntu (from 3.0.22 to 3.0.23c) ?	08:07
osiris	yes	08:07
user___	thks	08:08
osiris	mjcar, maybee in #samba ?	08:08
user___	it is downloading it now	08:08
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mjcar	ubuntu packaging ?	08:08
mjcar	in samba ?	08:08
lsproc	KDE Print is refusing to see my shared HP DeskJet 960c printer over the network. It sees every other printer, except that one, the one I need	08:08
mjcar	doubt it...	08:08
lsproc	This is over Samba	08:09
mjcar	3.0.23c is relased for samba already	08:09
mjcar	just wondering when ubuntu woudl adopt it and package it	08:09
kraut	moin	08:09
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user___	ubotu: I need to ask another question on repository, please. I am reading the doc which says to enable Universe and "Multiverse repositories"The first step on this page is to locate deb and deb-src. I see them both repeated with dapper and dapper-updates and dapper-security All have "main restricted" setting. Now, is this doc saying to add to all of them " multiverse " leaving also main restricted?	08:19
Jucato	user___: you are talking to a bot	08:19
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aquablu	yeh so hard to get anything working on kubuntu, nothing like slackware of ease of use	08:20
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user___	:-) I see now	08:20
user___	well my question still remain valid	08:21
user___	Is what I said before correct?	08:21
user___	Jucato: sometimes it is nice to talk to robots, right ;-)	08:21
Jucato	you don't need to add "multiverse" to those lines with "main restricted" but to those lines with "universe"	08:21
Jucato	remember, just add "multiverse", do not replace universe or anything	08:22
user___	Jucato: I see. So, I must live those alone. I see other grayed out lines deb and deb-src with universe	08:22
feet	probably not yet activated	08:23
feet	brb	08:23
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user___	I ativated them now.	08:23
Jucato	the line you might be interested in would be something like "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe"	08:23
user___	To this I should add multiverse	08:23
Jucato	add "multiverse" to that line	08:23
user___	I add, meaning I also mive universe	08:24
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Jucato	user___: no	08:24
nalioth	user___: did you find your answers?	08:24
user___	yes I did	08:24
Jucato	add, meaning it will become something like "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse"	08:25
aquablu	im think a fdisk might be in order to this distro	08:25
user___	I am just puzzled: do I live as componet universe and multiverse or just "multiverse" and remove universe?	08:25
user___	the kubuntu doc says " Double click the universe text so that you get an edit box and beside universe type multiverse and hit Enter and do the same for the other line as well" as I did	08:26
Jucato	user___: I said add "multiverse", meaning you add multiverse to the line with universe, like in the example I typed	08:26
user___	sure	08:26
Jucato	leave universe alone	08:26
feet	dont get rid of anything	08:26
user___	done as you said	08:26
Jucato	you add multiverse, meaning type the word "multiverse" beside the word "universe"	08:26
user___	Now, is this the only repository to add?	08:27
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Jucato	basically, yes. unless you want to install Opera	08:27
feet	or Real	08:27
Jucato	bleh :P	08:28
feet	hehe	08:28
user___	is there a website with all repository available for kubuntu with descriptions	08:28
feet	the packages site, i suppose	08:28
Jucato	user___: those are it. at least the official Ubuntu repos	08:28
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user___	ok, thks for now	08:28
user___	i gotit	08:28
user___	:-)	08:28
feet	:D	08:29
user___	do I have to use adept or can i also use add/remove programs from k menu ? One looks different than the other	08:30
feet	they are both adept, in essence	08:30
feet	the add remove programs is just a simplified version that shows way less items	08:30
Jucato	Add/Remove Programs (Adept Installer) is a simplified version	08:30
Jucato	:P	08:31
Jucato	shows less items, and less options	08:31
feet	you might use use adept package manager to get some obscure things like libraries and things	08:31
user___	sure	08:31
Jucato	or repositories, or... hm....	08:31
feet	yeah and the other apt stuff	08:31
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user___	when downloaded the iso file which was automatically done where did it save it?	08:32
jewels9321	i need some help finding the package to download for burning wav files.... i've looked around and am not finding anything	08:32
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feet	did you download it while using linux, or perhaps windows, user__ ??	08:33
user___	no, using konqueror	08:33
feet	oh	08:33
feet	home folder probably	08:33
user___	not there	08:33
jewels9321	does anyone know the name of the package off the top of their head?	08:33
feet	desktop?	08:33
Jucato	Desktop?	08:34
feet	i wasnt aware wavs could be burned to cd lol	08:34
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Jucato	I wasn't aware that they couldn't	08:34
\|lostbyte\|	user__, find ~/ \| grep *.iso	08:34
Jucato	ah... the art of using find...	08:35
jewels9321	i am pretty sure that they can	08:35
feet	always fun	08:35
\|lostbyte\|	:)	08:35
user___	never mind. I am downloading it again	08:35
Linux_Galore	you can burn just about any data file to a cd	08:35
feet	O_o	08:35
feet	oh	08:35
feet	as a DATA file?	08:35
Linux_Galore	yes	08:35
user___	is it possible then when my system is up and running to recompile the kernel removing unecesary stuff?	08:36
feet	then burning it as a data cd would work	08:36
\|lostbyte\|	user__, so you used the open option by mistake.	08:36
Jucato	unless jewels9321 was trying to burn them as an audio cd?	08:36
Linux_Galore	feet: yep	08:36
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feet	as an audio cd... hmm	08:36
jewels9321	jucato: yes i am trying to burn as an audio cd	08:36
user___	\|lostbyte\| perhaps	08:36
feet	i would convert them into mp3s myself	08:36
\|lostbyte\|	user__, yes	08:36
Jucato	err ok that's different...	08:36
feet	you could always try soundkonverter	08:37
aquablu	how do i use dpkg, i have just wget the codecs	08:37
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_mark	hello!	08:37
feet	sudo dpkg -i package.deb	08:37
Jucato	aquablu: "sudo dpkg -i <.deb name>:"	08:37
aquablu	k	08:37
feet	there you go aquablu	08:37
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aquablu	thnx	08:37
feet	also, you can right click the package within konqueror to bring up an installer menu	08:37
feet	hello mark	08:38
user___	is it possible to recompile the kernel kubuntu installed by default (generic) to optimize it and remove un-necesary stuff?	08:38
feet	indeed it is	08:38
aquablu	ok	08:38
Linux_Galore	feet you can use k3b to burn audio cd's made from wav files	08:38
user___	is it difficult? Any doc on this	08:38
oli	apt-get install libk3b2-mp3 <-- tu burn audio cd from mp3 files :)	08:38
feet	well has jewels9321 tried that?	08:38
_mark	hihi feet	08:38
_mark	im a suse user again ; ;	08:38
feet	we need em from wavs... know anything there oli?	08:39
jewels9321	Linux_Galore: k3b just tells me that it is unsupported format, so i need wav file support	08:39
Linux_Galore	oli: ooh yeah forgot about that	08:39
feet	heh	08:39
\|lostbyte\|	!kernel	08:39
ubotu	kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild	08:39
feet	well i would convert em to mp3 anyway	08:39
\|lostbyte\|	user__, ^^	08:39
Linux_Galore	jewels9321: I have k3b 1.0 installed	08:39
aquablu	im actually root in the shell so i wouldnt have to use sudo?	08:40
oli	yea	08:40
feet	no need for sudo	08:40
Linux_Galore	aquablu: no you dont have to use sudo if root	08:40
aquablu	ok thnx	08:40
\|lostbyte\|	feet, use sudo, and su if really nessary.	08:40
Linux_Galore	aquablu: just be carefull with things like rm -rf	08:41
feet	why are you telling me that \|lostbyte\|	08:41
aquablu	dam im sitting on my laptop watchng t.v and guess whos on "rydge from that bold and beautiful"	08:41
aquablu	gee hes wooden	08:41
jewels9321	Linux_Galore: really? That's nice. I did try wav2cdr but it doesn't seem to make it work	08:41
_mark	ugh	08:41
user___	ok, last question for now (I asked kernel compile because with gentoo I used not to implement generic kernel but just what what was necessary) What if i wish to install unstable-testing packages that are not marked stable? Would adept also provide those packages?	08:41
\|lostbyte\|	one beacuse of what Linux_Galore said.	08:41
_mark	anyone know how to build a custom kernel in suse?	08:42
aquablu	what does rm -rf do?	08:42
_mark	kills stuff	08:42
_mark	do rm -rf /	08:42
aquablu	ok	08:42
\|lostbyte\|	feet, the main goal of the sudo is to do various task with minimal permitions.	08:42
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Linux_Galore	aquablu: removes stuff permanently	08:42
aquablu	oh gee	08:42
_mark	ya you shouldnt do rm -rf /	08:43
Linux_Galore	rm -rf / basically kills you install	08:43
_mark	it nukes your linux	08:43
aquablu	wow	08:43
unix_infidel	or ask about building kernels for another distro in #Kubuntu	08:43
user___	anyone with my package question please?	08:43
unix_infidel	another bad idea.	08:43
motorcitymadman	i installed flash player to firefox before i installed gsfonts,gsfonts-x11. the flash player is not working.installing player before gsfonts cause this problem ?	08:43
_mark	sorry unix infidel, but the suse channel is really dead	08:43
jpiccolo_	anyone know where the xorg like thing is for fluxbox?	08:44
Linux_Galore	motorcitymadman: dont install the gnu flash player its total rubbish	08:44
_mark	i would stay with kubuntu but something in the packages keeps freezing my computer	08:44
motorcitymadman	Linux_Galore: is there a nother ?	08:44
_mark	maybe when edgy is released	08:44
user___	got to go now.	08:44
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Linux_Galore	motorcitymadman: yes the "official" one on the macromedia.com page	08:45
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\|lostbyte\|	motorcitymadman, download the flash plugin and place them in the plugin folder.	08:45
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\|lostbyte\|	weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!	08:45
Linux_Galore	heh heh	08:45
user___	any change someone can reply to this question: I have few minutes left: What if i wish to install unstable-testing packages that are not marked stable? Would adept also provide those packages?	08:45
feet	another netsplit	08:45
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feet	netsplits are fun :D especially on these huge networks	08:46
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feet	user__: those would be in the edgy repositories	08:46
Linux_Galore	user__ if you add the repository to adept all the packages there are available for install	08:46
_mark	gah	08:46
motorcitymadman	\|lostbyte\|: that wood be /usr/lib/firefox ?	08:46
user___	Linux_Galore this mean that there sould be a repository for testing packags, right?	08:46
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Linux_Galore	user__ yeah edgy	08:47
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feet	the edgy release is our version of unstable/testing	08:47
user___	thks	08:47
feet	dapper is currently our version of stable	08:47
feet	edgy will be the new 'stable' next month	08:47
user___	bye all (I wish you all a great day) :-)	08:47
\|lostbyte\|	motorcitymadman, /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/, your right.	08:47
feet	bye bye user :D	08:47
feet	happy kubuntu-ing	08:47
Linux_Galore	user__ just change all the repositories from dapper to edgy and you have access to all the new unstable stuff	08:48
user___	greatr	08:48
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_mark	linux galore	08:48
Linux_Galore	user__ I wouldnt though its a great way to nuke your install	08:48
cam	Hey all I need to change my permissions I'm trying to overwrite my firefox "profile" to restore them from a back up rom my Pc...	08:48
_mark	do you have any idea if theres been a bug reported with the 686 smp kernels?	08:48
CroX	I'm having problem with my system freezing on me every now and then, especially when working with alot of applications at the same time. Anyone care to help me out?	08:49
_mark	or a software package reacting badly to them	08:49
user___	all of them or just the one where I added multiverse?	08:49
feet	describe what happens, CroX	08:49
feet	all of them	08:49
feet	every single one, user	08:49
Linux_Galore	user__ the whole lot	08:49
feet	mixing dapper with edgy is dangerous	08:49
feet	actually, using edgy is still a bit dangerous lol	08:49
cam	can someone please help me?	08:49
feet	sure cam	08:50
Linux_Galore	yeah I still cant get edgy to install (node 3)	08:50
Linux_Galore	keeps stuffing up on X	08:50
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CroX	feet: It just freezes. Nothing happens, cursor wont move, commands (ctrl+alt+del, ctrl+shift+backspace) doesn't go through. Frozen.	08:50
user___	is it possible I just installed xchat and do not see any icon in k menu?	08:50
cam	I need to change my permissions I'm trying to overwrite my firefox "profile" to restore them from a back up rom my Pc...	08:50
feet	it takes a wee bit to update user, yes	08:50
CroX	feet: At first I thought it was the gfx card not having drivers, so I updated to current ati ones. But still it freezes.	08:50
cam	when I try it says I can't I assume it's permissions...	08:51
\|lostbyte\|	cam, rom ?	08:51
feet	your firefox profile? now i would think thats stored in ~/.firefox	08:51
aquablu	ok the problem i have no wi have all these movie players installed ,is that the movie wants to play then flashes away, thats any movie i go to watch	08:51
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user___	so what to do to get it updated?	08:51
Jucato	user___: type this command in Konsole "kbuildsycoca --incremental" and ignore error messages. then check your K Menu again	08:51
aquablu	x11 or something	08:51
vega-	is there some ubuntu-gnome metapackage that allows for easy removal of all gnome* stuff from kubuntu?	08:51
cam	I can see it it just won;t allow me to overwrite	08:51
vega-	so it would be just like kubuntu installed from scratch	08:51
feet	try using sudo	08:51
feet	or su	08:51
Linux_Galore	yeah the user profile for firefox is installed under ~/.mozilla/firefox	08:51
user___	yea it worked	08:51
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feet	nine times out of ten, if you cant do it, root can	08:51
user___	is there a way to get this fixed for kubuntu users?	08:52
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cam	I want to transfer my bookmarks from my pc to kubuntu,	08:52
CroX	feet: Any idea on what can be causing this?	08:52
feet	well what programs do you regularly use	08:52
Jucato	vega-: none, but you can try this guide: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde	08:52
Linux_Galore	user__ fix what ?	08:52
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\|lostbyte\|	Linux_Galore, and /etc/firefox/profile/ ?	08:52
Linux_Galore	\|lostbyte\|: that just for the startup	08:52
cam	do I have to change permissions?	08:52
feet	no	08:52
cam	?	08:53
feet	well you can	08:53
feet	that would be easier	08:53
user___	I used kbuildsycoca --incremental to update k menu Rathr after a package is installed it should appear the icon immediately in k menu	08:53
\|lostbyte\|	k :)	08:53
CroX	feet: KFTPGrabber, Navicat, Firefox, Thunderbird, Konversation, Amarok, Gaim, Kate	08:53
vega-	Jucato: ok thanks	08:53
cam	then how come it won't simply overwrite the profile with a newer one?	08:53
Jucato	user___: only for the times that they don't appear in the menu. but most of the times, they do	08:53
feet	but you could also use sudo or su to remove the offending files and as a normal user replace them with your own	08:53
CroX	feet: Often when I open a tenth/eleventh tab in firefox, with alo of other apps open, it freezes. Overload sorta.	08:53
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user___	I see now.	08:53
cam	?	08:54
user___	thks Jucato	08:54
user___	good day guys	08:54
aquablu	ok i can watch normal downloaded mpgs but when i put DVD in	08:54
aquablu	its the dvd's	08:54
\|lostbyte\|	CroX, whats the last thing you did, before this happed ?	08:54
feet	okay, what file are you trying to get rid of cam??	08:54
feet	or overwrite	08:54
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aquablu	i did mplayer dvd://	08:54
aquablu	wanted to play then errored X11	08:55
feet	probably dont have the dvd descrambling software	08:55
aquablu	oh	08:55
cam	I saved my firefox profile from my pc, I just want to use it on kubuntu	08:55
CroX	\|lostbyte\|: Installed ati drivers. They messed up, so I took back the old xorg.conf and redid the process	08:55
\|lostbyte\|	cam, firefox -ProfileManager	08:55
feet	yea	08:55
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cam	so I tried to overwrite the profile in kubunntu with the one from my pc and I'm not allowed	08:55
cam	where is it?	08:56
cam	I checked options....	08:56
cam	preferences	08:56
\|lostbyte\|	CroX, you dont have to do that. only need to replace the diver option.	08:56
feet	type firefox -ProfileManager in a konsole window	08:56
cam	will do	08:56
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CroX	\|lostbyte\|: Good to know. Well, the gfx card works now. But I still get my system frozen every now and then.	08:56
aquablu	feet>do you no the name of thescrambling software	08:56
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feet	yes	08:57
aquablu	ok	08:57
cam	Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display	08:57
feet	http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats	08:57
cam	:(	08:57
\|lostbyte\|	CroX, glxinfo \| grep direct	08:57
cam	sadly it didn;t work	08:58
feet	oh	08:58
cam	didn't work...	08:58
CroX	\|lostbyte\|: direct rendering: Yes	08:58
feet	oh here we go	08:58
feet	cam, let ask you something so i know im in the right place	08:58
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cam	ok	08:58
feet	what does a firefox profile look like, its a folder right?	08:58
cam	yes	08:59
\|lostbyte\|	CroX, Does it wait before it crashes, or on a spcific app. ?	08:59
cam	a folder	08:59
feet	easy	08:59
feet	open konqueror	08:59
cam	this should be easy/	08:59
feet	click view, then show hidden files	08:59
cam	it's open	08:59
feet	open the folder mozilla	08:59
feet	open the folder firefox	08:59
feet	paste the folder in	08:59
CroX	\|lostbyte\|: Now it's crashed on four occasions. Two times when I've hovered the cursor over a menu and an app in the taskbar, just before it's about to render a submenu or the popupdescription. The two other times has been when I've opened a tenth/eleventh tab in firefox or when firefox is just about to render a new website.	09:00
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Ghostwolf	Hi	09:00
cam	acess denied	09:01
Ghostwolf	Can kubuntu install non-destructively on the free space on a RAID 0 setup?	09:01
feet	access denied in your own folder? wow	09:01
\|lostbyte\|	CroX, free -m ?	09:01
CroX	\|lostbyte\|: Want me to run that cmd? Or do you ask for my RAM?	09:01
cam	whe I look to the left of Konqueror it say User:root Group :root	09:01
feet	oh	09:02
\|lostbyte\|	CroX, run that.	09:02
feet	simple	09:02
cam	I'm stummped	09:02
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CroX	\|lostbyte\|: Eep! Says here that I only have a total of 876 and using 772	09:02
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CroX	\|lostbyte\|: I'm supposed to have 1024!	09:03
CroX	\|lostbyte\|: And what on earth can suck that much memory?	09:03
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unix_infidel	hey guys, i keep on getting an error that the deps i need "are not installable"	09:03
unix_infidel	any ideas?	09:04
\|lostbyte\|	CroX, could you paste last three lines and 4 colums.	09:04
CroX	\|lostbyte\|: Working on it. It's free -m \| ~/dump.txt right?	09:04
\|lostbyte\|	unix_infidel, which are ?	09:04
unix_infidel	\|lostbyte\|: when i'm messing with imlibn	09:05
\|lostbyte\|	CroX, Your in console ?	09:05
CroX	total used free shared buffers cached	09:06
CroX	Mem: 876 776 100 0 84 405	09:06
CroX	-/+ buffers/cache: 287 589	09:06
CroX	Swap: 2565 0 2565	09:06
CroX	\|lostbyte\|: Nope, just getting used to the commands.	09:06
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motorcitymadman	\|lostbyte\|: the flash player wood only install in the /usr/lib/firefox i could not get the player in the plugins folder (not a vilid dir)	09:06
feet	cam, did you get any pm from me?	09:07
\|lostbyte\|	CroX, ok, your memory is not crashing your system. for sure.	09:07
CroX	\|lostbyte\|: But I'm still missing some :(	09:07
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\|lostbyte\|	motorcitymadman, that dir exsists.	09:07
motorcitymadman	i know	09:07
\|lostbyte\|	just sudo cp to it.	09:07
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cam	yeah	09:08
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CroX	\|lostbyte\|: Any other ideas on what could be crashing?	09:08
bioticpro	Anybody know how to make Firefox look as good as Konq (web site font wise)?	09:08
motorcitymadman	<-is of to leard sudo cd to it	09:08
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cam	it says I can't pm, do you see my replies?	09:08
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feet	nope	09:08
feet	thats ok	09:08
\|lostbyte\|	CroX, Do one thig..	09:09
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feet	did you try it?	09:09
CroX	\|lostbyte\|: Yeah?	09:09
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\|lostbyte\|	CroX, the next time the system crashes, note down the system time. reboot and check /var/log/syslog for an error.	09:10
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\|lostbyte\|	That file logs with the time stamp.	09:10
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mrdesk_	how do i check what version of kde im running?	09:10
feet	in any program, click Help, then about KDE	09:10
CroX	\|lostbyte\|: Alright, will do that. Thanks.	09:10
feet	even right clicking the panel at the bottom of the screen and picking about KDE will work	09:11
edp	ghkbhk	09:11
\|lostbyte\|	mrdesk_, open any kde app, and go to help > about kde	09:11
feet	echo	09:11
\|lostbyte\|	:P	09:12
feet	:P	09:12
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\|lostbyte\|	feet, kde-config --version	09:13
\|lostbyte\|	:)	09:13
feet	that too, if you want to load up a console :P	09:13
\|lostbyte\|	feet, any kde app with the -v parameter shows it.	09:14
feet	yeah	09:15
feet	but still... save time loading a console and typing it when you can just click the kicker :D	09:15
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\|lostbyte\|	point.	09:16
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edp	aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa	09:18
Ghostwolf	anyone have any idea?	09:18
edp	emmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm	09:19
feet	someone likes holding the keys on their keyboard, dont they	09:19
edp	ohya	09:19
\|lostbyte\|	Ghostwolf, yes, if we could all use hydroken cars, our future generation has a much likely chance not to burn in forest fires or floodes.	09:19
feet	nice idea!	09:19
Ghostwolf	ignored	09:20
\|lostbyte\|	:)	09:20
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unix_infidel	anyone here used the alternate installer before.	09:20
unix_infidel	trying to decide b/w full Kubuntu install and alternate or server install.	09:21
Jucato	unix_infidel: if you know what you are doing and what you need, server (minimal) install might be good	09:21
unix_infidel	Jucato: i know what i'm doing :)	09:22
Jucato	just take note that the server install does not install some stuff like CUPS or HAL	09:22
unix_infidel	just not sure if i want the full KDE "experience"	09:22
\|lostbyte\|	Jucato, you are on a server install ?	09:22
Jucato	\|lostbyte\|: no, but I did try it out for a week	09:22
Jucato	spent most of my time trying to check what I'm missing	09:22
Ghostwolf	So anyways; can kubuntu install non-destructively on the free space on a RAID 0 setup?	09:22
Jucato	I never realized HAL wasn't installed until someone asked me if it was	09:22
\|lostbyte\|	Jucato, I had problem with the gurb, or maybe because i tried installing from a usbstick.	09:23
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Jucato	Ghostwolf: what do you mean by "non-destructive"?	09:23
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unix_infidel	Jucato: is it possible to remove kde-desktop but keep kdebase?	09:23
unix_infidel	i mean remove all the kde-desktop associated packages with that meta package.	09:23
unix_infidel	but keep kdebase?	09:23
Jucato	you mean kubuntu-desktop?	09:23
Ghostwolf	as in won't damage the parition or seperate the raid drives	09:24
Ghostwolf	I need the info to survive :-p	09:24
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Jucato	that I wouldn't know... I think the installer splits a partition to make room for swap	09:25
Ghostwolf	ya I have free space	09:25
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Ghostwolf	just the suse instalelr said kernel 2.6 would erase everything	09:25
Jucato	Ghostwolf: the particular partition where Kubuntu will be installed must be reformated, I think that's what it means	09:26
Jucato	it won't touch other partitions unless you indicate it	09:26
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unix_infidel	Jucato: sure, kubuntu-desktop	09:27
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unix_infidel	is it possible to remove all components associated with that meta package but keep kdebase	09:27
Jucato	unix_infidel: kdebase is associated with kubuntu-desktop, so that would probably be a "no"	09:28
unix_infidel	Jucato: so how would i go about removing all components associated with the meta package kubuntu-desktop	09:28
\|lostbyte\|	unix_infidel, huh.. remote kubuntu-desktop and then install kdebase :S	09:28
Jucato	actually, every single package that's installed on your system was installed because of kubuntu-desktop	09:28
Jucato	hm...	09:29
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unix_infidel	Jucato: you needed to install hal from server or alternate install discs?	09:29
Jucato	unix_infidel: my bad, kdebase isn't part of kubuntu-desktop's depends	09:29
unix_infidel	Jucato: i think i'll just stick with a full "desktop" experience :)	09:30
Jucato	unix_infidel: server cd != alternate install cd	09:30
unix_infidel	Jucato: right, i'm asking which one you used in which you had to install hal manually.	09:30
Jucato	alternate install cd. you could use it as a repository	09:30
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grothesk	Hi	09:32
grothesk	Does anyone know, why there is no update for java?	09:33
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novato182	hola	09:40
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novato182	alguien puede ayudarme	09:40
Jucato	!es	09:40
ubotu	Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.	09:40
novato182	sorri	09:41
novato182	help me?	09:41
novato182	my configuration xorg	09:42
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[MaKuBeX]	Visit http://www.omgema.lt its good . Have a nice day!	10:02
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unix_infidel	heh, what a way to test 0 day browser exploits :0	10:04
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scion	hello	10:05
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fdoving	hi scion.	10:06
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unix_infidel	good call :0	10:06
unix_infidel	:)	10:06
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Milkyy	Hi, how do I change the hotkey for moving windows? Currently it is ALT-LMB but I want it to be "Windows button"-LMB, how do I do that?	10:07
scion	would it be possible to get a bit of advice on monting a usb HDD with two ext3 partitions on it?	10:07
unix_infidel	are there any plans to decentralize the security updates server.	10:07
unix_infidel	this is getting REALLY tedious?	10:07
scion	i am currently in work so will not be able to test until later	10:07
\|lostbyte\|	IS this real : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09bOAJKS8Gg	10:07
Milkyy	anyone?	10:08
fdoving	\|lostbyte\|: -offtopic?	10:08
unix_infidel	fdoving: you happen to have any contact with freenode staffer.	10:09
scion	hehe	10:09
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fdoving	unix_infidel: i can probably find one.	10:09
\|lostbyte\|	sorry..	10:09
unix_infidel	it seems this [MaKuBeX] is spamming channels.	10:09
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unix_infidel	same message, on multiple channels.	10:10
scion	any help for my usb prob?	10:10
unix_infidel	same host as well. oddly enough.	10:10
aquablu	hi guys heres my results from when i try play a dvd http://pastebin.com/791834	10:12
aquablu	itwants to start then flashes away	10:12
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main2	when i try to install the 'flashplugin-nonfree' using apt-get, it always returns aerror code 1	10:15
main2	Use of uninitialized value in join or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Stack.pm line 104, <GEN1> line 2.	10:16
main2	is there a way to fix this?	10:16
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main2	shit	10:17
main2	sudo apt-get / dpkg always seem to fail on everything i try to install..	10:17
main2	dpkg: fout bij afhandelen van flashplugin-nonfree (--configure):	10:18
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main2	dpkg: error during handeling of flashplugin-nonfree....	10:18
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Milkyy	how do I change hotkeys in KDE?	10:18
aquablu	anyone see the output to when i play a dvd	10:19
aquablu	http://pastebin.com/791834	10:19
aquablu	i need the remedy	10:19
main2	Milkyy: regional settings in system settings	10:19
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main2	aquablu: i need a remedy for my problem as well ;)	10:19
Milkyy	okey thanks main2	10:19
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Milkyy	unusual place to put that in o.o	10:20
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main2	Milkyy: it has its reasons i think	10:20
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Milkyy	that's the so far the only thing I haven't been able to do without asking in KDE	10:21
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emonkey	Milkyy, change the hotkey in the system settings	10:25
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Milkyy	hmm, can't seem to find that hotkey...	10:30
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Jucato	Milkyy: I think moving windows with Alt+LMB is something built in/hardcoded?	10:30
Milkyy	nah	10:31
Milkyy	it's in Metacity	10:31
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Milkyy	you can easily change it in gnome via a utility...	10:31
Milkyy	so it would be strange if you couldn't in KDE...	10:31
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visik7	will kubuntu edgy have apport ?	10:32
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DeadSouL	I can not hear any voice from Kaffeine, how can I fix it? I think there is a problem with Kmix...	10:32
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motorcitymadman	!sound	10:33
ubotu	If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin	10:33
Linux_Galore	DeadSouL: run alsamixer	10:33
DeadSouL	ok thanks	10:33
Linux_Galore	Im finding with *ubuntu if its intel based or an intel clone bit of hardware it works fine	10:34
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DeadSouL	I try to share one of my folders. It says that KDE has to run a small program to share this folder. I allow it but it can not make small program run. So I can not share that folder. How can I make KDE run this small program?	10:41
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Milkyy	still can't seem to find the ALT+LMB hotkey anywhere :(	10:43
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Milkyy	how do I access the "KDE Control Center"?	10:52
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Jucato	Milkyy: Alt+F2 then type in "kcontrol"	10:52
Milkyy	thanks	10:53
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Milkyy	that's where the alleged change can be made	10:54
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Jucato	Milkyy: where?	10:54
Jucato	except for a few modules, the things in KControl and System Settings are practically the same	10:55
Milkyy	"Go into KDE Control Center, expand Desktop, click window behavoir, then click window actions tab. You can turn off the alt-combos. If you want to make window specific settings, click on window specific settings under window behavoir on the side."	10:55
DeadSouL	Is there any video program better than Kaffeine?	10:55
Milkyy	MPlayer :)	10:56
Jucato	Milkyy: in System Settings, that would be in Desktop > Window Behavior also	10:56
Jucato	vlc?	10:56
DeadSouL	Can deleting Kaffeine harm system?	10:56
Jucato	DeadSouL: just leave it there. it's not that big :)	10:57
DeadSouL	ok	10:57
DeadSouL	:)	10:57
Milkyy	ah ok :)	10:57
Milkyy	it seems I can only change between Meta and Alt...	10:57
Milkyy	not the win key	10:57
Milkyy	:(	10:57
Jucato	Meta is the Win key iirc	10:58
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Jucato	yep it is	10:58
Milkyy	ok	10:58
Milkyy	yeah it worked :)	10:58
Jucato	:P	10:59
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motorcitymadman	where are the desktop images stored ?	11:01
Jucato	what do you mean by "desktop images"?	11:01
motorcitymadman	background	11:02
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Jucato	ah. system installed wallpapers would be in /usr/share/wallpapers, while user installed wallpapers would be in ~/.kde/share/wallpapers	11:02
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motorcitymadman	is this a hidden place ~/.kde/share/wallpapers ? me no find	11:06
flaccid	yes	11:06
flaccid	any file in *nix prefixed with a . is hidden	11:06
cpk1	motorcitymadman: a . as a prefix means hidden	11:06
motorcitymadman	key to unlock ?	11:06
cpk1	or what flaccid said =S	11:07
flaccid	sorry to but in	11:07
flaccid	there is no key to unlock	11:07
flaccid	they are hidden only	11:07
flaccid	eg. cd ~/.kde	11:07
Jucato	motorcitymadman: just type it in directly in Konqueror "~/.kde/share/wallpapers"	11:08
Jucato	or if you want to see hidden files, go to View > Show Hidden Files	11:08
flaccid	find your font, Jucato?	11:08
Jucato	no, I gave up :P	11:08
flaccid	dang	11:08
Jucato	some other day maybe :)	11:08
Jucato	it's not for a desktop font anyway. just for some design/image	11:09
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flaccid	cool	11:09
=== Jucato likey DejaVu Sans Condensed...
motorcitymadman	konqueror say sorry file does not exist ~/.kde/share/wallpapers	11:10
swatgoss	try to browse it from Konsole	11:11
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swatgoss	will work	11:11
flaccid	perhaps it doesn't exist	11:11
Jucato	motorcitymadman: ah maybe because you haven't added any wallpaper yet, so the directory "wallapapers" doesn't exist yet	11:12
flaccid	try ~/.kde/share first	11:12
swatgoss	since you got the exact "way/file location" (don't remember the english word) enter it in your Konqueror ?	11:12
swatgoss	try to browse it Konsole :p	11:12
Jucato	it won't be in Konsole if it doesn't exist yet	11:12
swatgoss	but you will see it don't exist	11:13
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swatgoss	when u make a dir in Konsole u see all directories right ?	11:13
swatgoss	dir /.kde/share	11:13
Jucato	if he goes to ~/.kde/share first, he'll see the same thigns	11:13
swatgoss	like cluedo :p	11:13
Jucato	things*	11:13
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swatgoss	dir don't show /.directories ?	11:14
motorcitymadman	konq find this for me's ~/.kde/share	11:14
Jucato	huh?	11:14
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flaccid	ls -lh	11:15
flaccid	i mean ls -a	11:15
flaccid	i like ls -lah	11:15
Jucato	motorcitymadman: the wallpapers directory in ~/.kde/share doesn't exist yet because you have not added any new wallpapers.	11:15
Jucato	if you add a wallpaper (right-click desktop > Configure Desktop > etc...) that directory will be created	11:16
flaccid	trying to upgrade konversation, i get this konversation: Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.4-1) but 4:3.5.4-0ubuntu2~dapper1 is to be installed	11:16
flaccid	plus some other errors following	11:16
motorcitymadman	Jucato: yes is true and thank you's	11:16
Jucato	flaccid: upgrading to which version?	11:17
flaccid	1.0	11:17
Jucato	flaccid: it's not yet available in dapper	11:17
swatgoss	version of ?	11:17
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Jucato	konversation 1.0 isn't in dapper (dapper-backports) yet	11:17
flaccid	ok	11:18
swatgoss	0.19 now ?	11:18
Jucato	flaccid: trying to install a deb rom Edgy?	11:18
Jucato	swatgoss: yes	11:18
Jucato	konvi 1.0 might be in dapper-backports in a few days, though	11:18
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flaccid	negative	11:19
flaccid	its a friend	11:19
Jucato	ah	11:20
flaccid	hes running sudo apt-get install konversation	11:20
Jucato	is he on Dapper or Edgy?	11:20
fildo	this would be me	11:20
flaccid	dapper	11:20
flaccid	lol	11:20
flaccid	fildo is just ripped atm	11:20
Jucato	ok I'm confused... @_@	11:20
flaccid	suprised he can type...	11:20
fildo	lol	11:20
crazy_penguin	Good day all! :)	11:20
fildo	iam the friend Jucato	11:21
Jucato	aaah	11:21
motorcitymadman	i started by using ubuntu-gnome, i like kubuntu-kde-desktop much better, the last thing was to printing working (done) now working on scanning	11:21
fildo	im having issues with installing konversation.v1	11:21
Jucato	fildo: because konversation 1.0 doesn't exist in Dapper yet	11:21
flaccid	hehe	11:21
fildo	i have added , in sources.list	11:21
fildo	then updated .	11:22
flaccid	guys i'm going downstairs to drink more beer	11:22
motorcitymadman	printing and scanning = high level of anger	11:22
fildo	but when installs gives me a dep issue	11:22
fildo	flaccid: thnx	11:22
Jucato	fildo: what have you added in your sources.list?	11:22
Jucato	flaccid: no pizza this time?	11:22
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fildo	# Nate's Debian Konversation packages	11:24
fildo	deb http://archive.aardvarque.com/debian/konversation sid main	11:24
fildo	deb-src http://archive.aardvarque.com/debian/konversation sid main	11:24
Jucato	fildo: no... that repository is made for Debian Sid. it won't work for Dapper	11:24
fildo	ah fek	11:24
fildo	where did i get it from,	11:24
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fildo	lol another stoner moment	11:25
Jucato	beats me...:P	11:25
Jucato	just wait a few days, Konvi 1.0 might be available in dapper-backports	11:25
fildo	can u lead me to the light	11:25
fildo	lol	11:25
Linux_Galore	fildo: goto www.kde-apps.org you can download ver 1.0	11:25
swatgoss	turn light on ?	11:25
fildo	or just do it via src	11:25
fildo	?	11:25
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Jucato	Linux_Galore: if I'm not mistaken, 1.0 has some dependencies that are newer than the ones on Dapper	11:25
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Linux_Galore	Jucato: compiled fine for me	11:26
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Jucato	running a customized system?	11:26
Linux_Galore	Jucato: no I have kde 3.5.4 installed thats about it	11:26
swatgoss	changelog of Konversation 0.19 -> 1.0 ? (URL)	11:27
Jucato	fildo: you can try what Linux_Galore did.	11:27
Jucato	or...	11:27
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Jucato	http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/Kubuntu	11:28
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Linux_Galore	Jucato: konversation ver 1.0 also compiled on my mandriva 2006 machine without a problem	11:28
flaccid	yes we are cooking pizza downstairs Jucato	11:28
flaccid	hehe	11:28
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Linux_Galore	Jucato: thats running kde 3.5.2	11:28
Jucato	swatgoss: http://konversation.kde.org/ lists the changes	11:28
Jucato	Linux_Galore: different distros have different dependencies	11:28
Jucato	when it comes to versions, that is	11:28
Linux_Galore	Jucato: I know but all the packages on my mandriva machine are older than on my kubuntu one	11:29
swatgoss	hu hu hu some good things :p	11:29
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Jucato	Linux_Galore: who knows. I don't know all the mysteries of the Linux world. I'm just saying that 1.0 isn't officially in Dapper yet	11:29
Linux_Galore	insnt that clever, put kradio on the repo but it wont install	11:30
Jucato	that it will be (actually should have been weeks ago) in dapper-backports in a few days	11:30
Linux_Galore	Jucato: not that much difference to be honest	11:30
Linux_Galore	Jucato: looks and works exactly the same	11:30
Linux_Galore	as the default kubuntu one	11:30
Jucato	not much difference between 1.0 and 0.19?	11:31
Linux_Galore	Jucato: yes	11:31
Jucato	0.19 can't do left tabs	11:31
Linux_Galore	seems more of a bug fix	11:31
Jucato	0.19 doesn't have Auto Replace	11:32
Linux_Galore	never used left tab so I wouldnt know	11:32
Jucato	0.19's scrollback limit is 1000 lines	11:32
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swatgoss	some1 know where i can find a Nokia JDK for N-Gage/3650/7650 ?	11:33
swatgoss	just thinking about it cause i'm installing JDK 5.0	11:34
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: doesnt nokia have a linux web site	11:34
swatgoss	not linux one	11:34
swatgoss	symbian one	11:34
Linux_Galore	no nokia has a linux website	11:34
Linux_Galore	770 runs Linux	11:35
swatgoss	i know	11:35
swatgoss	but i look after N-Gage one	11:35
swatgoss	and N-Gage run symbian 60	11:35
swatgoss	need a "symbian jdk"	11:35
Linux_Galore	I used to have a n-gage, didnt like it	11:35
Linux_Galore	got it from a friend second hand	11:36
swatgoss	i can't buy a 770 now, keeping money for a new laptop	11:36
swatgoss	so i keep N-Gage for some more time ...	11:36
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Linux_Galore	swatgoss: I wouldnt buy a 770 either, get a GP2X, fraction of the price and works better	11:37
swatgoss	tactile screen ?	11:37
Linux_Galore	GPX2 sorry	11:37
swatgoss	no GP2X	11:37
Linux_Galore	no X2 because it has two cpu's	11:37
cpk1	hmm i wish my irc client would tab complete words that are hard to spell	11:37
cpk1	and tab completed things in my sbin	11:37
swatgoss	i remember GP 2x ...	11:38
swatgoss	looking on web	11:38
Jucato	there are 2 different models bearing the same "GP" name	11:38
swatgoss	may be	11:38
swatgoss	oh yes :p	11:39
swatgoss	GPX2 :p	11:39
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: yep your right http://www.gp2x.com/	11:39
cpk1	oh, guess no one else thinks that would be cool	11:39
swatgoss	there is 2 models as jucato says :p	11:39
swatgoss	GP2X is older	11:40
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swatgoss	lol 170K colors ...	11:40
Jucato	yes, and GPX2 isn't out yet :P	11:40
swatgoss	2 is 131Kcolors ... and 2 is 262Kcolors ...	11:41
swatgoss	HOW COULD THEY MAKE A 170K colors SCREEN :p	11:41
Linux_Galore	no the gp2x-f100 is the latest one you can buy -> http://www.gp2x.net.au/	11:41
swatgoss	or just a 131Kcolors screen ...	11:41
Linux_Galore	reason I like the GP2X is unlike other media players you dont have to re rip your video files to a lower res	11:42
swatgoss	5.3 bits for red, 5.3 bits for blue, 5.3 bits for green ?	11:42
Linux_Galore	to play them	11:42
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swatgoss	some1 know how to adress 5.3333333333bits for color ?	11:43
Linux_Galore	its pretty cheap and you get all the libs for free	11:43
swatgoss	for videos i got my DS :p	11:43
swatgoss	not 320x240 ... but 256x192 is enough for animes	11:43
Linux_Galore	yeah but the ds has the same problem as the ipod and the creative vision:m it wont play high res video files	11:44
swatgoss	and ?	11:44
swatgoss	no need of hi res :p	11:44
swatgoss	reecoding to 256x192	11:44
Linux_Galore	well all my anime files are 800x res	11:44
swatgoss	some of mine too	11:44
Linux_Galore	Im not re ripping them if I dont have to	11:45
Jucato	coughofftopiccough	11:45
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swatgoss	lot of them are "only 640x480" :p	11:45
Linux_Galore	well no one is asking questions	11:45
swatgoss	yes me	11:45
swatgoss	mencoder	11:45
Linux_Galore	and the room was dead	11:45
swatgoss	i got mencoder and specific codec under win32	11:45
swatgoss	to encode for my DS	11:45
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swatgoss	can't make kind of scratch myself ... i'm too bad for this kind of things ...	11:46
swatgoss	u think i can find it somewhere ?	11:46
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Linux_Galore	seen Linux running on a DS	11:46
Jucato	no way?!?!	11:46
swatgoss	yop DSLinux :p	11:46
Linux_Galore	yes way	11:46
Linux_Galore	Jucato: play anything you want	11:46
swatgoss	dev are trying to make a GUI	11:46
Jucato	NO WAY!?!?!?	11:46
swatgoss	but with 4MB ram ...	11:47
swatgoss	not easy :p	11:47
Linux_Galore	yeah theres some hardware hacks for the ds	11:47
Linux_Galore	use flash to extend its abilities	11:47
swatgoss	SuperKey, SuperPass1/2	11:47
swatgoss	i got a SuperPass2 with a 256Mb SD card, soon a 2GB card	11:47
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Jucato	Linux_Galore: can DSLinux play mp3's, videos, and read PDFs?	11:48
Linux_Galore	put linux on the flash and the 4mb is for kicking the base system off	11:48
swatgoss	:( but it only have 32MB of RAM on SuperCard (not Pass sry ...)	11:48
swatgoss	i'm not sure	11:48
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: I saw 4Gb flash being used	11:48
swatgoss	it don't play mp3 video or PDf now ...	11:49
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swatgoss	the entire uncompressed linux is about 11MB	11:49
Kennie	hi is ther a way to remove the bleep in Konsole if eg. tab doesnt match?	11:49
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swatgoss	join #DSonlinux1 :p	11:50
swatgoss	not u kennie	11:50
Jucato	Kennie: Settings > Configure Notifications?	11:50
Linux_Galore	Kennie: yeah setting-> configure notifications	11:50
Kennie	k tnx :)	11:50
Jucato	Kennie: or Settings > Bell	11:50
Linux_Galore	I dont use konsole, been using yakuake for a year now	11:50
Jucato	Linux_Galore: well, Yakuake will basically use Konsole's settings	11:51
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Linux_Galore	Kennie: install yakuake makes konsole look like a toy	11:51
Jucato	unless of course, you set it to use ssomething else	11:51
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Linux_Galore	Jucato: yes it does	11:51
Kennie	Linux_Galore will check out ;)	11:52
swatgoss	just applied the matrix skin on Konsole :p	11:52
swatgoss	Green/black	11:52
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: come here	11:52
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: <whispers> closer	11:53
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Linux_Galore	swatgoss: YOUR A GEEK!!	11:53
Linux_Galore	heh heh	11:53
swatgoss	i know ...	11:53
swatgoss	i bega/un reading Java 1.5 at school ...	11:53
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: done the perl stuff yet	11:53
swatgoss	hummm	11:54
swatgoss	school	11:54
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swatgoss	"lyce" in france	11:54
swatgoss	college i think in english countries	11:54
Jucato	you're both geeks :P	11:54
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: your not a geek untill you can create totally unreadable perl code and use vim	11:54
swatgoss	i'm a hardware geek :p	11:54
Linux_Galore	then there is the mega geeks, there into lisp and schema	11:54
swatgoss	i can sold you a 2nd AGP on ur mobo to make a SLI with it !	11:55
Jucato	there are different "degrees" of geekyness. but the fact that you've been talking for a long time about modding handhelds with a geeky OS...	11:55
Linux_Galore	lol	11:55
swatgoss	:p	11:55
Linux_Galore	Jucato: gp2x comes with Linux	11:55
swatgoss	i prefer DS	11:55
Jucato	yeah.. but DS doesn't	11:55
Jucato	so there!	11:55
Jucato	:P	11:55
Linux_Galore	I havent modified an iPOD yet	11:55
Linux_Galore	ie ipodlinux.org	11:55
swatgoss	so i was saying	11:56
Linux_Galore	thats next	11:56
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Jucato	I want to mod my Windows powered phone!!	11:56
swatgoss	the probleme of DSLinux is that it don't have much things by default	11:56
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: have to use flash	11:56
swatgoss	hanoi towers game	11:56
swatgoss	2 CLI games	11:56
swatgoss	some other things	11:56
Jucato	if GPX2 comes out and it's cheap, and it can really read PDF's... i'm buying it...	11:56
swatgoss	will it have a touch screen ?	11:57
swatgoss	and if a N-Gage can read PDF, a GPX2 will ...	11:57
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Jucato	well, GP2X certainly couldn't	11:57
swatgoss	????	11:58
=== Jucato wonders what use a touchscreen has on DS
swatgoss	no need of a mouse :p	11:58
Jucato	GP2X's "e-book" reader is just a plain text ebook reader	11:58
Jucato	swatgoss: well, for now there's not much on DS that needs it, right?	11:58
Jucato	or at least, for the stuff available here... :(	11:58
swatgoss	DS games, lot	11:59
swatgoss	DS homebrews	11:59
swatgoss	some	11:59
swatgoss	like BeUp	11:59
swatgoss	MSN on DS if u prefer :p	11:59
swatgoss	to switch conversations	11:59
swatgoss	thx to stylus	11:59
=== Jucato dreams of a gaming console that could aslo be a PIM... :P
swatgoss	PIM ?	12:00
Linux_Galore	Jucato: like a Zaurus 3200	12:00
Jucato	Personal Info Manager	12:00
swatgoss	personal ? manager	12:00
swatgoss	ok	12:00
Jucato	= PDA	12:00
Linux_Galore	Jucato: zaurus does all that	12:00
swatgoss	DS with more RAM ...	12:00
=== Jucato looks it up...
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: some of the zaurus models come with a hardisk	12:00
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swatgoss	or just a read/WRITE access on a DS card	12:01
swatgoss	thats one of the 2 problems of DS ...	12:01
swatgoss	tiny main RAM	12:01
Jucato	doesn't DS have a plugin for MMC/SD Cards?	12:01
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swatgoss	and not easy stockage	12:01
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Linux_Galore	even install debian on a zaurus	12:01
swatgoss	with a supercard yes	12:01
Jucato	ooh Sharp...	12:01
Jucato	omoshiroi	12:01
swatgoss	a super card is a SD/CF -> GBA adapter	12:02
Jucato	ooops. that means "interesting"	12:02
swatgoss	but only have 32MB of EEPROM of some kind of memory like that	12:02
Linux_Galore	Jucato: keep an eye on ebay, now and again someone buys one that doesnt have a clue how to use Linux and flogs it cheap	12:02
Jucato	oh no... keyboard...	12:02
Linux_Galore	Jucato: keyboard is built in but Ive seen someone connect a keyboard to a zaurus via the usb port	12:03
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Jucato	looks nice...	12:03
Jucato	I just had a bad experience with gadgets with keyboards...	12:04
Linux_Galore	http://www.openzaurus.org/wordpress/	12:04
Jucato	err... it has a touchscreen?	12:04
Linux_Galore	Jucato: yep	12:04
Jucato	ok that totally changes everything!! :)	12:05
Jucato	ah, now the question would be "how much" and whether there's local support for it...	12:06
Linux_Galore	Jucato: 5600 is a good entry level model -> http://cgi.ebay.com/SHARP-ZAURUS-SL-5600-PDA-LINUX-Wi-Fi-COLOR-LCD-IN-BOX_W0QQitemZ180029067309QQihZ008QQcategoryZ38331QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item180029067309	12:07
Jucato	Linux_Galore: hold on, what's Zauru's real/built-in OS?	12:07
Linux_Galore	Jucato: depends on what model there is a big range	12:07
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Jucato	SL-3000 is the one with Linux?	12:07
Linux_Galore	Jucato: yes zaurus runs the "full" version of Linux	12:07
Linux_Galore	Jucato: they all run Linux	12:08
Jucato	wonder if you could install a KDE distro :P	12:08
Linux_Galore	Jucato: it already run QT	12:08
Jucato	hey this 5600 is really cheap!	12:08
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Linux_Galore	Jucato: the gui on the zaurus is based on QT tool kit same as kde	12:08
Jucato	you have convinced me... and now I won't be able to sleep dreaming of it	12:08
Jucato	aah Qtopia	12:09
Linux_Galore	Jucato: the sl-c### ones are the best though	12:10
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Jucato	and probably the most expensive...	12:10
Jucato	time to hunt :P	12:10
Linux_Galore	but if your after a good entry model the 5600 is the best, avoid the 5500 they're rubbish	12:10
=== Jucato sighs...
Jucato	you are feeding my addiction	12:11
Jucato	:P	12:11
Linux_Galore	Jucato: just wait, I got a sl-c3200 cheap after waiting 4 months	12:11
Jucato	how much is "cheap"?	12:11
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Linux_Galore	Jucato: AU$360 or about US$270	12:12
Jucato	ouch	12:12
Jucato	hm.. not bad if I convert directly...	12:12
Linux_Galore	yeah but the things are US$800	12:12
Jucato	O_O	12:12
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Jucato	time to ask the local "geeks" about prices and good deals for this...	12:13
Linux_Galore	Ive ripped the hardisk out already and put a 30Gb micro drive in it from a broken creative mp3 player I baught on ebay for $63	12:13
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Jucato	ugh.. something I forgot to ask...	12:13
zorglu_	i would like kubuntu to accept the 'window' key on my keyboard, to later create shortcut based on it. any suggestion on where to start	12:13
Jucato	does it function as a phone?	12:13
Linux_Galore	Jucato: no, its basically a really small PC with an xscale cpu and a hardisk	12:14
Jucato	zorglu_: it accepts your windows key, but as a modifier key, that is, somethng like Alt or Ctrl	12:14
Jucato	hm... fair enough.. I'll just get a very cheap phone...	12:14
Jucato	I was hoping to purchase a new smartphone next year, though	12:14
Linux_Galore	Jucato: heard theres a project to put linux on a treo	12:15
zorglu_	Jucato: impossible to make it accept the window key as modifier ?	12:15
Jucato	zorglu_: it's a modifier already	12:15
Jucato	you can use it like Win+Space or Win+1 or Win+F1	12:15
Jucato	Linux_Galore: nice...	12:15
zorglu_	Jucato: oh ok thanks	12:15
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Werdna	~tell me about dualboot	12:15
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Werdna	dammit	12:15
Werdna	is there a factoid-based bot in here?	12:16
Linux_Galore	Jucato: get ready for this screen shot, here we go -> http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/06/linux-on-treo-650-gets-real/	12:16
Jucato	!dualboot	12:16
ubotu	Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot	12:16
Linux_Galore	Jucato: mauwahahah	12:16
Jucato	noooooooo!!!	12:16
Jucato	ugh gnome...	12:16
Linux_Galore	yes you can feel the power of the Tux side	12:17
Jucato	I can see the foot, that's for sure :P	12:17
Linux_Galore	Jucato: few projects actually	12:17
Linux_Galore	for the treo	12:17
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Jucato	well, until then, my search continues...	12:18
Linux_Galore	I was looking at a treo but deep southed the idea because I couldnt run Linux, well havent the times changed	12:18
Jucato	a Symbian would probably be ok... anything just not Windows CE...	12:18
Linux_Galore	Jucato: just change the UI, it runs X so you can just set it to kdm	12:18
Jucato	if KDE has a GPE equivalent	12:18
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Linux_Galore	Jucato: ooh theres a Linux treo in the works	12:20
Jucato	ugh...noooo....	12:20
Linux_Galore	from palm	12:20
Jucato	I thought I was cured of my gadget-addiction	12:20
Linux_Galore	lol	12:20
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Linux_Galore	Jucato: dont visit my place i collect PDA's	12:20
Linux_Galore	Ive got the whole Newton range including the clambook "in its original box"	12:21
Jucato	ha!! If I did, I'd steal them :P	12:21
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Linux_Galore	got it from some guy in the UK, he baught it and never used the thing	12:21
Linux_Galore	so basically its brand new	12:22
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Jucato	I actually prefer smartphones over plain PDA's or ultra mobiles... I don't like having to carry 2 gadgets around...	12:22
Linux_Galore	all the local second hand shops have my email address	12:22
Jucato	hah	12:22
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acidplace	hello	12:23
acidplace	people	12:23
acidplace	help me pls	12:23
Linux_Galore	you may laugh now, but my Apple newtons have doubled on price on ebay in two years	12:23
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acidplace	i need to install xgl	12:23
Linux_Galore	acidplace: ask away	12:23
cpk1	hooray no more boring pda talk, someone needs real help	12:23
cpk1	=)	12:23
Linux_Galore	acidplace: what type of graphics card do you have	12:24
Linux_Galore	lol	12:24
acidplace	Savege 3d	12:24
Jucato	cpk1: :P	12:24
grothesk	acidplace: Forget it.	12:24
Linux_Galore	acidplace: not enough grunt	12:24
acidplace	iok	12:24
acidplace	ok	12:24
Jucato	won't work..	12:24
Linux_Galore	acidplace: you need a GF4 at least	12:24
Jucato	or an ATI equivalent...	12:24
Linux_Galore	yeah but the ati drivers are rubbish	12:25
Linux_Galore	with xgl	12:25
acidplace	GeForce 6200	12:25
grothesk	Even without xgl g	12:25
Jucato	ati = aiglx, nvidia = xgl	12:25
Linux_Galore	lol	12:25
Jucato	acidplace: that would work, I guess	12:25
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Linux_Galore	no isnt xgl = Novel and aixgl = red hat	12:25
cpk1	they are both doing the same thing	12:26
acidplace	what is rubbish	12:26
Linux_Galore	ati drivers	12:26
Jucato	acidplace: rubbish means "trash"	12:26
acidplace	ati drivers is not good?	12:26
Linux_Galore	acidplace: rubbish - garbage.trash,refuse	12:27
acidplace	what?	12:27
grothesk	No, ati drivers are not good.	12:27
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Linux_Galore	acidplace: there ok but nvidia does a better job	12:27
acidplace	ok	12:27
Jucato	some like ATI, some like NVIDIA. personal choice...	12:27
acidplace	but	12:27
=== Jucato prefers NVIDIA...
cpk1	it used to be that nvidia was the clear choice for a linux machine	12:27
swatgoss	for nux drivers nvidia is a bit ahead	12:27
swatgoss	i got a 6600GT on my desk PC and a Mobility 9200 on my laptop ...	12:28
Linux_Galore	yeah also Nvidia is launching the new 9### series drivers with better xorg 7.01 support	12:28
Jucato	anyway, acidplace you need an nvidia card for xgl to work	12:28
acidplace	i installed to my home PC GeForce FX 5200 MB 128bit is good	12:28
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Jucato	yes, that kind of video card	12:28
swatgoss	9200 only run generic drivers :p	12:28
Linux_Galore	got 7200 on this machine and a 420m on my laptop	12:29
Jucato	Linux_Galore: don't you mean X.org 7.1?	12:29
swatgoss	FX5200 128bits ?	12:29
swatgoss	called a 5500 now :p	12:29
Linux_Galore	Jucato: could be	12:29
swatgoss	3rd gen FX5200 are 64bits	12:29
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swatgoss	or speaking about 128MB :p	12:29
Jucato	unfortunately, the X.org that will ship with Edgy has only AIGLX enabled, and it seems that X.org prefers AIGLX... :(	12:30
Linux_Galore	Jucato: just read the release details and it said native support for xorg 7. something	12:30
laz-e-coyote	hi, does anyone know if it's possible to focus on the filter text box in the konqueror toolbar using a keyboard shortcut?	12:30
Linux_Galore	yeah but aiglx is no were near as mature as xgl	12:30
acidplace	but peple help me to install to my PC XGL	12:30
acidplace	on ge force FX5200 128MB	12:30
Jucato	!xgl	12:30
ubotu	Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems	12:30
Linux_Galore	acidplace: wont work your card hasnt got enough grunt to run the effects	12:31
Jucato	Linux_Galore: he has one on his PC at home	12:31
Jucato	laz-e-coyote: that I'd love to know too	12:31
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Linux_Galore	acidplace: click the link above this post	12:32
Linux_Galore	Jucato: lag	12:32
Jucato	:(	12:32
laz-e-coyote	Jucato: it's one of the most useful features in kde, but the lack of keyboard shortcut makes it almost useless	12:32
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Linux_Galore	laz-e-coyote: ??	12:33
Jucato	laz-e-coyote: yeah... in the meantime, you could try "fast typing" to get to the file if you know the filename	12:33
Jucato	Linux_Galore: filter search in Konqueroro	12:33
laz-e-coyote	Linux_Galore: the filter text box in konqueror	12:33
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Linux_Galore	laz-e-coyote: I use kbeagle for text files	12:34
abattoir	you guys mean the filter box in the file mgmt. mode?	12:34
Linux_Galore	laz-e-coyote: wrong tool	12:34
Jucato	Linux_Galore: err... not that	12:34
Jucato	abattoir: yes	12:34
laz-e-coyote	abattoir: exactly	12:34
Jucato	you know of any keyboard voodoo?	12:34
Jucato	abattoir: btw, wb :)	12:34
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abattoir	Jucato: thanks :)	12:34
zorglu_	i like the web :)	12:34
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abattoir	Jucato: seems like my clone left when i left too :)	12:35
Jucato	heh	12:35
zorglu_	Jucato: i just googled you, looked at your blog and what you were doing. it is cool :)	12:35
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Jucato	O_O	12:35
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Jucato	which of my blogs?	12:35
Linux_Galore	laz-e-coyote: heh heh I have a text filter on konqueror, Tools->View Filter->Text Document	12:36
Jucato	this is one of those moments that I wish I was like abattoir :)	12:36
zorglu_	Jucato: dont remember the url, the one about ubuntu with the classroom, on wordpress i think	12:36
Linux_Galore	laz-e-coyote: you mean that	12:36
=== fdoving googles jucato too.
Jucato	aah	12:36
Jucato	lol	12:36
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abattoir	Jucato: why what happened?	12:36
Jucato	my Multiply site is more updated than WP..	12:36
abattoir	aah, being discreet :)	12:36
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Jucato	Linux_Galore: err... wrong answer?	12:37
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=== abattoir will finally(hopefully) get a wiki page today
laz-e-coyote	Linux_Galore: no, i mean the filter text box on the toolbar, when u type something in it it filters the list of files and shows only the files with the text your wrote in the filename string	12:37
Jucato	Linux_Galore: he's asking about a keyboard shortcut to activate the filter search field in Konqueror	12:37
Linux_Galore	laz-e-coyote: he want to filter text files doesnt he	12:37
Linux_Galore	Jucato: aaa	12:37
laz-e-coyote	Linux_Galore: no	12:37
Jucato	something like what F6 does to the URL/Location bar	12:37
abattoir	or Ctrl+L	12:37
laz-e-coyote	Linux_Galore: i want to show only files that have a specific string in their filename	12:38
Jucato	abattoir: that's for the location/address bar...	12:38
Linux_Galore	Jucato: you mean link a key with a command	12:38
abattoir	Ctrl+S goes to the search bar	12:38
laz-e-coyote	Linux_Galore: and not necessarily in the beginning of the file	12:38
abattoir	maybe its time to code one ;)	12:38
laz-e-coyote	abattoir: it's not the search bar	12:38
Linux_Galore	laz-e-coyote: do that with keytouch	12:38
Jucato	Linux_Galore: no	12:38
Jucato	not the search bar, not a command...	12:38
abattoir	Jucato: yes, that's what i meant, it was an 'or' for your statement	12:38
laz-e-coyote	Linux_Galore: how?	12:38
Jucato	aah	12:38
Jucato	Linux_Galore: do you see what happens when you press Ctrl+L or F6?	12:39
Jucato	in Konqueror	12:39
Linux_Galore	laz-e-coyote: every app has an kio option that you can tell keytouch to activate	12:39
laz-e-coyote	Linux_Galore: can i test it with dcop?	12:40
Jucato	er.. problem in using dcop... you have to know the exact name of the Konqueror instance	12:40
Linux_Galore	laz-e-coyote: good example run dcop amarok player nowPlaying when amarok is up and running	12:41
Linux_Galore	laz-e-coyote: in the command line	12:41
Linux_Galore	it should tell you what is playing	12:41
Jucato	Linux_Galore: problem in using dcop... you have to know the exact name of the Konqueror instance for it to work	12:41
Linux_Galore	Jucato: yes but you can use --help	12:42
Linux_Galore	Jucato: at each level	12:42
Jucato	Linux_Galore: not what I meant	12:42
Linux_Galore	help will then tell you your options	12:42
swatgoss	thetime	12:42
Jucato	dcop sees Konqueror as konqueror-####	12:42
Jucato	each konqueror instance has a different number.	12:43
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Linux_Galore	Jucato: yeah but you can script that and key keytouch to run it	12:43
Linux_Galore	get*	12:43
Werdna	wow. dualbooting is actually pretty damn easy	12:43
Linux_Galore	keytouch -> script -> konqueror action	12:43
=== Werdna heart GRUB
Jucato	well if you say so... but don't you think it's overkill to be going through this for a function that should actually be there?	12:44
Jucato	Werdna: glad you found your way	12:44
Linux_Galore	Jucato: or just use kbeagle lol	12:44
Werdna	Jucato, ;-) thanks.	12:44
Jucato	they serve different purposes...	12:44
laz-e-coyote	Linux_Galore: i only want the files in the current folder	12:44
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Jucato	and it's even more overkill to use beagle to quickly filter through a directory that you're already on...	12:45
lupine_85	beagle-- :(	12:46
Linux_Galore	Jucato: bugger me kcontrol->system->Input Actions its all there	12:47
zorglu_	one kde guys, vandoneur or close, did something similar on kde (in c++)	12:47
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Jucato	but not the "exact" command/shortcut...	12:47
=== Jucato has been wondering what keytouch is...
Linux_Galore	Jucato: yes you can edit the exact command keyboard shortcut , even show some examples	12:48
Jucato	Linux_Galore: I meant, not the exact command that laz-e-coyote has been looking for.	12:48
Jucato	"focus filter search"	12:48
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Linux_Galore	Jucato: its in kcontrol	12:49
Jucato	where? I'm looking at it right now	12:49
Jucato	where is the Input Action that will focus on the Filter Search field?	12:49
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Jucato	hm....	12:52
laz-e-coyote	i can't find the filter thing using dcop	12:52
Jucato	neither can I...	12:52
laz-e-coyote	the konqueror-9156 item doesn't seem to have that	12:53
Jucato	(btw, you can use kdcop to use dcop with a GUI)	12:53
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Linux_Galore	just had an idea, I remember reading something about hacking the konquerorrc file for shortcuts	12:57
Jucato	well, unless we know which part/command/whatever does that..	12:57
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Linux_Galore	Jucato: aaah you can set window specific shortcuts	01:04
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Jucato	Linux_Galore: Alt+F3	01:04
Linux_Galore	basically you save your text browsing filtered session	01:04
Jucato	???	01:05
bropho	any1 know where i can get some stuff for linux	01:05
bropho	free stuff	01:05
swatgoss	adept ?	01:05
Linux_Galore	Jucato: say I use the filter->text option i can actually save that as a mode	01:05
Linux_Galore	then access it with a shortcut	01:05
Jucato	Linux_Galore: and if I would want to filter on another directory? will it work?	01:06
swatgoss	bropho try adept ...	01:06
bropho	swatgoss wats that	01:06
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swatgoss	bropho program for download/install all kind of other programs	01:07
swatgoss	u click on the program u like	01:07
swatgoss	apply	01:07
swatgoss	and u have the program	01:07
swatgoss	all free	01:07
bropho	swatgoss where from	01:08
swatgoss	K menu	01:08
swatgoss	system > adept manager	01:08
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Jucato	bropho: read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware and this https://help.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/add-applications.html	01:08
Loungefly	hey all, just wanting to get some feedback. I know Reconstructor and UCK are available, but is there any way to make a liveCD based on a currently installed Ubuntu/Kubuntu? In the way that mklivecd is able to etc.	01:08
bropho	oh right i know wat u mean know i know about that	01:08
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swatgoss	what kind of free stuff u look after ?	01:09
Loungefly	:)	01:09
swatgoss	all programs u can want to DL are on adept	01:09
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bropho	ok then what about wmv codec	01:10
swatgoss	!codec	01:10
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	01:10
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swatgoss	!codecs	01:10
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	01:10
swatgoss	look here	01:10
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Loungefly	anyone? Bueller....Bueller....	01:11
SillyZ	gmorning	01:11
swatgoss	morning ? what country ?	01:11
abattoir	Ferris bueller? :P	01:11
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bropho	its 9"11 pm here	01:11
SillyZ	usa, gmt-0500	01:11
bropho	9:11 pm	01:11
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Loungefly	yep :P amazing how many people don't pick up on that. I must be getting old :P	01:12
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swatgoss	1:12pm ....	01:12
bropho	im in aus	01:12
bropho	auzzie	01:12
SillyZ	i know who bueller is, and ya makes me feel old just thinkin bout it	01:12
SillyZ	:D	01:12
Loungefly	lol	01:12
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Loungefly	what part of oz bropho?	01:13
bropho	tas	01:13
Loungefly	ok so I take it there's no way to create a liveCD based on a current install?	01:13
Loungefly	ah cool	01:13
Loungefly	south coast NSW here	01:13
bropho	cool	01:13
DeadSouL	I connected my laptop to TV. I got output from both TV and Laptop's monitor but image in the TV is black and white. How can I make it colorful	01:13
DeadSouL	?	01:14
bropho	iim bored	01:14
leo__	hi	01:14
leo__	jemand aus deutschland da?	01:15
Loungefly	whatchoo talkin' bout Willis	01:15
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swatgoss	about how many hours can i consider JDK 5.0 install is crashed ? 3 hours is enough ?	01:17
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bropho	i want to learn c++	01:18
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swatgoss	www.wannalearnc++.com	01:18
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bropho	cool thanks	01:20
laz-e-coyote	Linux_Galore: i don't wanna filter text files	01:20
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laz-e-coyote	Linux_Galore: i want to display only files with a specific string in the NAME of the file	01:21
lupine_85	then use find :)	01:21
lupine_85	or slocate	01:21
fleissigfiona	hey lupine	01:21
lupine_85	hi :)	01:22
lupine_85	how's you?	01:22
fleissigfiona	good thanks	01:22
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momal	Does anyone know how to reload xorg to all defaults? when I started kubuntu it just showed the checkedscreen with black X-hair. So I reinstalled xorg, reinstalled the nvidia drivers, tried nvidia drivers from sound, glx and glx-legacy and using nvidia-xconfig... nothing is working. my card is a GF7800gt	01:23
bropho	my web browser wont work (konqueror, firefox)	01:23
bropho	my web browsers wont work (konqueror, firefox)	01:23
momal	I have trid \| X -configure \| as well and no work :(	01:23
swatgoss	do u ever saw an URL with a "+" in it ?	01:23
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bropho	its not that konqueror wont start up	01:24
swatgoss	do = did	01:24
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Linux_Galore	laz-e-coyote: learn the command line lazy	01:24
Linux_Galore	laz-e-coyote: ie grep will filter files	01:24
tillmann	momal: are you sure that you are starting some kind of login manager (kdm/gdm)	01:24
bropho	ill be back in a sec reboot computer	01:25
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momal	omfg didn't think of that will check.	01:26
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pera	sorry	01:26
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momal	kdm seems to start well it is running kdm according to ps	01:28
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bropho	im back	01:30
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Linux_Galore	you know the only thing that I find annoying about konqueror is there is no shortcut to Find, Firefox its ctrl f	01:33
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bropho	im bored	01:34
momal	is there some generic drivers for nvidia cards that will work with xorg? that I can load	01:34
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tillmann	I don't know much about nvidea driver or X in general, but the open source nv driver should at least get you 2D support	01:37
tillmann	you might try to use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg	01:38
Linux_Galore	momal: yeah you have two choices, get the driver from nvidia.com or install the nvidia driver via adept	01:38
tillmann	and have at /var/log/Xorg.*.log	01:38
momal	linux_galore: I have already tried both X starts then just hangs on checked screen with black X-hair	01:39
Linux_Galore	momal: thats X running	01:39
Linux_Galore	momal: do you get the nvidia splash screen	01:40
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Linux_Galore	momal: if you dont get the nvidia splash screen it means the driver isnt installed properly	01:41
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momal	I get it then it goes straight to checked screen and stops	01:43
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Linux_Galore	momal: read this -> http://kubuntu101.blogspot.com/2005/11/linux-gaming-part-4-installing-nvidia.html	01:44
Linux_Galore	momal: you dont have the driver installed its that simple	01:44
Linux_Galore	momal: no nvidia flash screen = driver not installed properly	01:44
Linux_Galore	momal: ok boot the machine up and I will show you how to get it back to a default settings	01:45
Samuli^	momal, there's nvidia-glx in the repos.	01:45
momal	Linux_Galore: I said i got it the flash screen with nvidia icon but then after it comes up it goes to checked screen with black X	01:45
momal	already have that installed samuli^	01:46
Linux_Galore	momal: so you get the Big NVIDIA logo	01:46
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Linux_Galore	momal: if you get that then the driver is working	01:46
momal	yes white background nvidia logo in middle thats green and says nvidia	01:46
momal	but then it just stops	01:46
Linux_Galore	momal: if you get X that means the X graphical server is working	01:47
Linux_Galore	momal: if you get no login that means kdm is borked	01:47
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momal	yea then why isn't anything else loading :S	01:47
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Linux_Galore	momal: press ctrl alt backspace	01:47
Samuli^	momal, try sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart	01:48
crazyjazy	ne1 help me with an alternate install of ubuntu (using a backpack external cd drive	01:48
Samuli^	maybe it's just no running at all.	01:48
Samuli^	not	01:48
Linux_Galore	Samuli^: yeah I think he broke kdm some how	01:48
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Linux_Galore	Samuli^: stuffing around with adept lol	01:48
Linux_Galore	Samuli^: maybe the whole kubuntu-desktop has been removed, saw that once	01:49
Linux_Galore	get the same problem were x works but theres nothing to load	01:49
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Samuli^	heh, yeah. Or kdm just isn't running. X doesn't start kdm.	01:50
bropho	you cant read this	01:51
bropho	you cant read this	01:51
Linux_Galore	Samuli^: after years of doing admin and tech support first thing I learn is people lie about why there computer has gone spastic	01:51
bropho	damit	01:51
bropho	i want red hat	01:52
bropho	linux	01:52
bropho	cost too much	01:52
Linux_Galore	Samuli^: got to the stage were at work I have no admin logins allowed via a keyboard, you have to use a usb thumb drive with a pam key on it	01:52
Linux_Galore	bropho: get CentOS its a free version of RHEL	01:53
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Linux_Galore	bropho: or use fedora	01:53
bropho	linux is big too download though i have slow internet	01:53
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Linux_Galore	bropho: you can install some distro via a floppy or a small image you can download ie suse can do that	01:54
bropho	yeah but doesnt it use the internet for the install	01:54
Linux_Galore	bropho: linux is as big or small as you want it to be, dam small Linux (dsl) is only about 64mb	01:54
Linux_Galore	bropho: you can always just order an ubuntu cd to be sent to you for free	01:55
Linux_Galore	bropho: or talk to your local LUG and they will often give you a CD for nothing or for a trade on a blank cd	01:56
bropho	im kubuntu know from a magazine i got. im going to got to that shop 2morrow	01:56
bropho	LUG?	01:56
Linux_Galore	http://www.ssc.com:8080/glue/groups/	01:56
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Linux_Galore	bropho: click on the link above to find you local lug (Linux user group)	01:57
bropho	im from a small town we dont have one	01:57
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Linux_Galore	bropho: you do have a mail box dont you	01:57
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bropho	yes	01:57
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Linux_Galore	bropho: send a self address letter to the person offering the cd at your nearest LUG	01:58
Linux_Galore	bropho: they will mail you the cd back	01:58
bropho	it took me too www.linuxjournal.com	01:58
momal	omg... It started up after running /etc/init.d/kdm restart and i rebooted the computer just to make sure was all good.. now it freezes on kubuntu screen with the kubuntu logo in blue and the blue loading bar. so I tried running the restart again and just sits there O_o	01:59
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Linux_Galore	bropho: sorry better link -> http://www.linux.org/groups/	01:59
bropho	loading	02:00
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Linux_Galore	momal: something is seriously borked	02:00
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momal	ok just reinstalled nvidia drivers from sound seems to come up now... time for another reboot and see what happens	02:01
Linux_Galore	momal: when it becomes a moving target like with your machine I start thinking bad hardware	02:01
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bropho	cool i found one in my state (tasmania)	02:01
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Linux_Galore	bropho: now go onto there mailing list sign up and them email them a request	02:02
Werdna	are dm-x devices removable, i.e. a firewire drive or something?	02:02
momal	rofl i hope not its all new lol!... its rebooting forsome reason X didn't load jsut before said nvidia module wasn't loaded its booting up now hopefully will work	02:02
Linux_Galore	bropho: they might even have a channel on freenode	02:02
bropho	ok	02:02
bropho	thanks	02:03
Linux_Galore	bropho: whats the club called tslug ??	02:03
Linux_Galore	bropho: whats the club called taslug ??	02:03
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bropho	yes	02:03
bobbyyu	I have a problem: my packages are broken and Adept won't commit changes	02:04
Werdna	bobbyyu, what have you changed recently?	02:04
bobbyyu	What is the first thing to check?	02:04
Linux_Galore	bropho: aah there called penguinlug lol	02:04
bobbyyu	What do you mean?	02:04
Werdna	some error message pastes might also be helpful - but if it's more than a line or two, put it in a pastebin	02:04
bobbyyu	I did a massive update	02:04
Werdna	I see.	02:05
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bropho	lol	02:05
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bropho	stupid slow internet	02:06
Linux_Galore	bropho: well they have a forum, so just create an account and ask away	02:06
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Linux_Galore	bropho: why do you have dialup ?, dsl is the same price now	02:07
bropho	dsl is not available were im at	02:07
Werdna	!dualboot	02:07
ubotu	Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot	02:07
bobbyyu	So what's the first thing to look?	02:07
Linux_Galore	bropho: what your too far from the exchange ??	02:07
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Linux_Galore	bropho: all exchanges in AU not have dsl, its legislative law	02:08
Linux_Galore	now*	02:08
bropho	i dont telstra wont let us have unless 300 people demand it and our pop is only 900	02:09
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bropho	telstra wont let us have unless 300 people demand it and our pop is only 900	02:09
Linux_Galore	bropho: they cant refuse, tell them they are infringing there T1 agreement with the government and you will lodge a complaint with the aca	02:09
Linux_Galore	bropho: bet you get dsl in a week	02:10
bropho	wat make u say that	02:10
Linux_Galore	because the aca will slap a $500 per day fine on them	02:10
bropho	where can i see this agreenmant	02:10
Linux_Galore	broth: just inquire about the aca on google	02:11
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Linux_Galore	bropho: they manage all that type of stuff	02:11
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bropho	ok this is geting interesting	02:12
bropho	theres alot of aca's on google wich one is it	02:12
Linux_Galore	bropho: part of the deal with the t1 selloff is a service guarantee to remote areas	02:13
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Linux_Galore	bropho: be a .gov one	02:13
bropho	what does aca stand for	02:14
Linux_Galore	bropho: http://www.acma.gov.au/ACMAINTER:HOMEPAGE::pc=HOME	02:15
Linux_Galore	australian communications authority	02:15
bropho	thanks	02:16
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stephan	STOP	02:16
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momal	ok this makes no freeken sense >_<. boots up and doesn't start X trying to start X manually says about nvidia module not loading. So i run the nvidia driver installer it installs fine. I restart X and kdm back up they work fine as soon as I reboot the computer it wont start again.	02:19
Linux_Galore	momal: something isnt being saved	02:20
bropho	linux_galore: i cant find it	02:20
Linux_Galore	bropho: it wont be on there home page email and ask	02:20
bropho	ok	02:20
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Linux_Galore	bropho: so no wireless either huh	02:21
momal	the error on X is about api mismatch from the X module to the Nvidia kernal module :S	02:21
bropho	wireless broadband yeah but its slower than dial-up here	02:21
Linux_Galore	bropho: they wonder why more young people leave than stay in Tasmania per year, hmm might be because there so technically retarded that young people feel strangled	02:22
bropho	yeah thats about right but i would be happy with leaving this crappy town	02:22
Linux_Galore	bropho: Tamsmania in 20 years will be just full of greenies and old people	02:23
Werdna	teehee	02:23
bropho	i hpe not	02:23
Linux_Galore	bropho: my parents lived there for a while	02:23
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bropho	yeah?	02:23
Linux_Galore	bropho: they couldnt leave fast enough	02:23
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dhq	i will install windows xp now how do i reconfigure grub	02:23
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bropho	yeah	02:24
Linux_Galore	bropho: Tasmania when I rode my motorbike there reminded me allot of rural northern victoria	02:24
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Linux_Galore	bropho: nice place to visit (Tasmania) sux to be you lol	02:25
bropho	yeah i know i am me!	02:25
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MenZa	dhq: try #ubuntu	02:26
Linux_Galore	bropho: the neighbours next to were my parents lived built there own log cabbin house and decided they would live on the dole for the rest of there lives, I asked, so your not ever going to get a job, they were a matter of fact "yep"	02:27
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momal	Anyone have an ideas to why nvidia module wont save ?... (X doesn't start install drivers it works. reboot computer doesn't work again)	02:27
bropho	lol	02:28
Linux_Galore	bropho: everyone is running some type of back yard scam in tasmania, I got fresh milk and eggs and beef that was butchered only 5 days ago	02:28
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Linux_Galore	bropho: if you a no chemicals so fresh its still warm type of person tasmania is great	02:29
bropho	i dont realy care about that stuff as long as its good	02:29
Linux_Galore	bropho: trust me it is, I miss the milk and the mega tender steaks	02:30
bropho	yeah i like meat	02:30
Linux_Galore	and the day old eggs	02:30
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bropho	eggs are ok	02:30
arunkale	hey people	02:30
Linux_Galore	bropho: depends were you get them, super market eggs are a week old	02:31
Linux_Galore	bropho: day old eggs have a funny smell so they put them in storage for a week	02:32
bropho	i sometimes get them from my grandad who lives on a farm	02:32
Linux_Galore	sheesh no questions tonight	02:32
Linux_Galore	bropho: yeah, found you cant make cakes with day old eggs	02:32
Linux_Galore	bropho: have to wait a few days	02:33
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larson9999	i wrote a tool for work years ago that reported on disk usage at the user/file/ and directory level. basically you set thresholds for when you wanted to report. for instance percentage free of the file system, directories over a certain size and files over a certain size. i've looked for disk usage tools and can't find anything that breaks it down to that level. before i rewrite it i figured i'd ask if anyone here knows of such	02:33
larson9999	a tool	02:33
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Linux_Galore	larson9999: Ive seen something like that	02:34
Linux_Galore	larson9999: actually a few apps that do it	02:34
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Linux_Galore	larson9999: http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=disk+usage&section=projects&Go.x=0&Go.y=0	02:35
Werdna	!wifi	02:35
ubotu	Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	02:35
Linux_Galore	larson9999: only 43 projects	02:36
Linux_Galore	heh heh	02:36
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bropho	i just sent that email to acma	02:37
bropho	abouyt dsl	02:37
gubatron_	momal, you there?	02:37
bropho	about	02:37
momal	garr can't figure it out gues i'll jsut have to never reboot >_<	02:37
momal	yea I am	02:37
gubatron_	momal: you have the latest kernel headers?	02:37
Linux_Galore	bropho: see what they say, Liberals have been watering down all the T1 stuff	02:37
momal	unles they were updated in the last month	02:37
bropho	ok	02:37
larson9999	Linux_Galore: lol. i looked and didn't see anything that is exactly what i'm looking for. i'll look again through this list.	02:38
gubatron_	I think they were, I had to recompile my vmware and my vpnclient this week, I did a dist-upgrade during the weekend	02:38
momal	i'll do a full update on my system again.	02:38
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Linux_Galore	larson9999: diskfree emails you	02:38
larson9999	Linux_Galore: just saw that. looks close	02:39
bropho	i havent got confirm email from taslug yet	02:39
gubatron_	and momal you have the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.latest-your-arch ?	02:39
gubatron_	you want to make sure there's no mismatch bet. your kernel and those nvidia modules	02:39
Linux_Galore	larson9999: always search with a different string on that site	02:39
gubatron_	momal: I went through similar problems this week on two machines, configuring xgl, and configuring a dual screen machine	02:40
Linux_Galore	larson9999: ie disk monitoring	02:40
gubatron_	this channel rocks, always had it open on konversation but never read it	02:40
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bropho	im hungry be back in a sec	02:45
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swatgoss	re all	02:46
swatgoss	my JDK install crashed	02:47
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swatgoss	after reboot adept tells me he is in read only mode	02:47
Jucato	swatgoss: run this in Konsole: sudo dpkg --configure -a	02:48
swatgoss	do i have a way to clear some kind of cache	02:48
swatgoss	it restard install ?	02:49
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Jucato	swatgoss: yes	02:49
momal	apt-get clean i belive will clear its cache	02:49
Jucato	it will continue where it stopped when it hung	02:49
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Jucato	hang.. hung... err	02:49
swatgoss	Paramtrage de libltdl3 (1.5.22-2) ...	02:49
swatgoss	Paramtrage de odbcinst1debian1 (2.2.11-11build1) ...	02:49
swatgoss	Paramtrage de unixodbc (2.2.11-11build1) ...	02:49
Jucato	swatgoss: don't paste here please. use pastebin	02:50
swatgoss	tells me only this, adpet crashed at the early beginning of jdk 5.0	02:50
swatgoss	i think its ok now :p	02:50
Jucato	the command that I gave should fix it	02:50
NeoSaki	I do not speaka this language	02:50
swatgoss	i didnt use pastebin cuz its only 3 lines :p	02:50
Jucato	:P	02:50
zorglu_	q. im trying to narrow down the reason of why kded eat 100% cpu on my box, it keep reading on a socket, socket:[18751] according to /proc, how can i convert socket:[18751] to a more readable format ?	02:50
swatgoss	dictionnary ?	02:51
swatgoss	google translate ?	02:51
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swatgoss	oh, not google translate, u asked readable thing :p	02:51
NeoSaki	Saki Don't Speak anything besides Fontinium	02:51
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Jucato	zorglu_: have you tried the #kde channel?	02:51
momal	what kernal should be used for amx x2 ?	02:52
swatgoss	amx X2 ?	02:52
swatgoss	woooow	02:52
NeoSaki	AMD X-2	02:52
swatgoss	french tank :p	02:52
momal	that could be my prob since im on amd now rather then p4	02:52
Jucato	heh...	02:52
swatgoss	AMD 64 kernel ?	02:52
NeoSaki	yeah	02:52
swatgoss	or K8	02:52
NeoSaki	Kubuntu-64	02:52
zorglu_	Jucato: not yet this one :) ok trying	02:52
swatgoss	but i don t know SMP ...	02:52
swatgoss	"if they are SMP"	02:53
momal	yea amd x2 4200.. umm anyway i can update it to 64 without reinstall of everything ?	02:53
NeoSaki	momal: yeah	02:53
swatgoss	you sure ?	02:53
NeoSaki	momal: just install the x86_64 image	02:53
swatgoss	oh yeah	02:53
NeoSaki	momal: and edit grub	02:53
swatgoss	just thniking about it :p	02:53
NeoSaki	I am running both 64 and 32	02:54
swatgoss	programs are the same ...	02:54
bropho	Linux_Galore: y so quiet	02:54
swatgoss	u got a 96bit OS ?	02:54
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swatgoss	great !	02:54
NeoSaki	>_>	02:55
swatgoss	-_- scarying myself sometimes ...	02:55
momal	arr... hmm is the 64 in another rep? because its not in mine :(	02:55
swatgoss	my hand have no humor ...	02:55
NeoSaki	I wish Flash would hurry up and support linux x86_64 already	02:55
NeoSaki	momal: yeah	02:55
NeoSaki	momal: you have to enable the 64-bit repos	02:55
NeoSaki	!x86_64	02:56
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about x86_64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	02:56
momal	wait a second... flash.. are you saying i can't use any flash in firefox on 64 O_o	02:56
swatgoss	!amd64	02:56
NeoSaki	hrm... that sucks	02:56
ubotu	AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.	02:56
NeoSaki	ahh	02:56
NeoSaki	momal: Yeah, You have todo a work around to get it to work properly	02:56
swatgoss	linux = cluedo sometimes :p	02:56
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momal	... have you gotten that workaround to acually work ?	02:56
swatgoss	jdk install is back :p	02:57
Werdna	how can I download the package file for ubuntu to transfer onto a non-networked computer?	02:57
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swatgoss	good question	02:57
momal	on apt-get you can make it download but not install can't you i remember seeing it somewhere.. have a look at apt-get --help	02:58
Werdna	hmm...	02:58
swatgoss	are the repos "connectable" via http or something ?	02:58
Werdna	is there a website I can browse a la packages.debian.org?	02:58
Jucato	packages.ubuntu.com	02:59
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Werdna	dammit.	02:59
Werdna	thank you captain obvious :-D	02:59
Jucato	the problem with downloading and installing packages individually is that you won't be able to know and resolve dependencies	02:59
Werdna	yeah, I'll fix that up	02:59
Jucato	"sudo apt-get install -d <package>" to download only, iirc	02:59
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swatgoss	packages can't "detect" themselves on a local partition ?	03:00
Werdna	!wifi	03:00
swatgoss	and their dependencies	03:00
ubotu	Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	03:00
Jucato	swatgoss: what do you mean?	03:00
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swatgoss	u have 3 packages on a local disk	03:00
swatgoss	u launch install of 1 of 3	03:00
swatgoss	3 are dependant	03:00
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swatgoss	do the 1st detect and install the 2 others ?	03:01
Jucato	nope.	03:01
Jucato	only apt-get and higher package managers can do that	03:01
swatgoss	v_v	03:01
Jucato	installing and individual package requires you to use dpkg, which doesn't have dependency handling	03:01
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swatgoss	got 1.6+ GB free on my "/" ... and the jdk install freeze again, 9% this time ...	03:03
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swatgoss	last time it does this	03:03
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Werdna	hmm.. that's weird	03:03
Jucato	swatgoss: what are you using to install it and from where are you getting it?	03:03
Werdna	I have ndiswrapper installed, but get ndiswrapper: command not found.	03:04
swatgoss	adept > install jdk 5.0 > freeze	03:04
Werdna	ah, I need ndiswrapper-utils	03:04
swatgoss	from normal repos	03:04
Jucato	swatgoss: don't use Adept to install anything java	03:04
momal	hmm anyone happen to know of the url to the 64bit reps?	03:04
swatgoss	..........	03:05
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Jucato	use apt-get. it "hangs" because it's requiring you to agree to a license agreement	03:05
swatgoss	adept GUI don't show CANCEL button ...	03:05
zorglu_	swatgoss: i would guess adept ask for a license agreement, you may look at 'terminal output' or close. or use the same package via apt-get	03:05
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zorglu_	as jucato said :)	03:05
zorglu_	ok going to work	03:06
Jucato	swatgoss: close Adept (just close it) and run the command I gave earlier	03:06
swatgoss	ok ok	03:06
swatgoss	dpkg config -a ?	03:06
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Jucato	swatgoss: sudo dpkg --configure -a	03:06
swatgoss	locked by another process	03:06
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momal	lol close adept	03:08
swatgoss	reboot ... winuser inside :p	03:08
swatgoss	adept CLOSED, not killed	03:08
Jucato	swatgoss: sudo killall adept	03:08
Jucato	then the dpkg command	03:08
swatgoss	not via taskmanager ?	03:09
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Jucato	swatgoss: you will have to run taskmanager as root to kill it	03:09
swatgoss	adept: no process killed	03:09
Jucato	hm...	03:09
Milkyy	Hey, I'm trying to run a game called "Tremulous" but apparently I get this: tremulous: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory	03:09
swatgoss	conf -a always locked	03:09
Jucato	the "sudo dpkg --configure -a" says it's still locked?	03:09
swatgoss	reboot incoming :p	03:10
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Jucato	swatgoss: if you want to	03:10
swatgoss	will be back 8)	03:10
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harvey_	hi there	03:10
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momal	hmm... what kernel should i use for amd 32?	03:11
Jucato	amd 32?	03:11
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Jucato	is that like Sempron 2200 (1.5GHz)?	03:12
Dink	2.6.18	03:12
Dink	=)	03:12
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momal	nar im talking about the 32bit side of a amx x2	03:12
momal	amd x2*	03:12
Jucato	ah	03:12
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momal	I mean the arch lol	03:12
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Dink	2.6.18 works great :)	03:13
Milkyy	anyone?	03:13
Dink	other then backporting module-assistant from edgy	03:13
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milco	hmmm	03:15
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milco	after a dist-upgrade, the nvidia kernel module cannot be found anymore	03:15
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swatgoss	I'm baaack	03:16
Dink	Milkyy you on 64 ?	03:16
Jucato	swatgoss: how was it?	03:16
Milkyy	Dink: yes	03:16
swatgoss	and dpgk config -a don telle me anything ...	03:16
Werdna	bah! wifi on linux is of the devil.	03:16
Dink	sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-sdl	03:16
Jucato	swatgoss: "sudo dpkg --configure -a" ?	03:16
swatgoss	i confirm comand	03:17
swatgoss	and nothing	03:17
milco	im running kernel 2.6.15.27 since yesterday, but from one moment at the other - i seem to have lost my nvidia kernel module?	03:17
swatgoss	yep	03:17
swatgoss	i enter my root pass	03:17
swatgoss	nothing	03:17
milco	when i type 'modeprobe nvidia' > module cannot be found	03:17
Milkyy	Dink: great man thanks that worked :)	03:17
Jucato	then it means there's nothing wrong anymore	03:17
Dink	yep np	03:17
milco	i have the nvidia-glx package installed... any ideas?	03:17
swatgoss	now CL install, or i got a CD with a .bin "shell script" given with m java book	03:18
swatgoss	my	03:18
Dink	no idea I use ati :p	03:18
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swatgoss	wich one ?	03:18
milco	..	03:18
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Dink	plus i compile my own kernel so no idea man.. try to redownload the packages ??	03:19
swatgoss	Jucato .deb with command line or jdk .bin on my CD ?	03:19
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Jucato	swatgoss: have you tried "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk" ?	03:19
swatgoss	not yet	03:20
swatgoss	Jucato but i got 2 options now	03:20
Jucato	swatgoss: are you sure jdk is what you wanted to install?	03:20
Jucato	not -jre or -bin?	03:20
swatgoss	it downloaded 3 things, jdk jre and exemples	03:21
Dink	i would get the latest jdk from sun website symlink it to /usr/bin/java and add jre to profile	03:21
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Dink	jdk comes with jre	03:21
Jucato	well, installing from the repositories is supposed to make things easier	03:21
swatgoss	but i got 1 CD with my book of "java learning", with a .bin "shell script" on it	03:22
swatgoss	a jdk .bin	03:22
Dink	easier... this is linux :p	03:22
Dink	nothing should be easy	03:22
Jucato	aw c'mon, that was ages ago Dink	03:23
swatgoss	bah same thing ... i compile my .bin with CL or i use apt-get with CL ...	03:23
Jucato	we have something we call "GUI" now	03:23
Dink	damn did I just age myself there	03:23
swatgoss	can't use a GUI now ...	03:23
Jucato	swatgoss: the problem is with Adept actually	03:23
milco	for some vaque reason, 'nvidia.ko' disapeared from my machine	03:23
swatgoss	and adept isn't a GUI ?	03:23
Jucato	if Synaptic was used to install the same package, there wouldn't have been a problem	03:23
swatgoss	:'(	03:23
Dink	apt-get isnt always 100% especially if you trying to do "special" things	03:23
Dink	sometimes you ahve to get down and dirty	03:24
milco	ive reinstalled nvidia-glx, but i dont get nvidia.ko back? :/	03:24
Jucato	Dink: swatgoss isn't doing something "special", so apt-get should be fine	03:24
Dink	what is he doing ?	03:24
swatgoss	that's why i'm asking if it couldn't be better to use my .bin on my CD ...	03:24
swatgoss	trying to get a jdk	03:25
swatgoss	wanna compile/test my 1st java lines :p	03:25
Jucato	swatgoss: it may or may not be better. using something not from the repositories means that you're not sure that it would work with Ubuntu	03:25
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Dink	get jdk from apt-get	03:25
Jucato	but then again, since sun-java5 is in multiverse...	03:25
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Dink	I like doing it myself cuz then you can set your javahome, ant, variables to what you like... which if you are doing java code you probably still have to do	03:26
Jucato	!java swatgoss	03:26
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about java swatgoss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	03:26
Jucato	!java > swatgoss	03:26
Jucato	that page might help you if you want to install the .bin	03:27
Dink	do you mind a 3 line spam ?	03:27
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Dink	* PATH="/usr/java/jdk1.5.0/bin:$PATH"; export PATH	03:27
Dink	* PATH="/usr/share/ant/bin:$PATH"; export PATH	03:27
Dink	* JAVA_HOME="/usr/java/jdk1.5.0"; export JAVA_HOME	03:27
Dink	you probably still need to do that if you are compiling java code	03:27
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Dink	something simliar based on the location of you jdk... which to me is always better to use sun version	03:28
Jucato	Dink: doesn't the update-java-something command take care of that already?	03:28
Jucato	!java	03:28
ubotu	To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository	03:28
Dink	ive had problems in the past using "binary" packages from distros on compiling code	03:28
swatgoss	i just want to check my square perimeter computing program ... :'( :'( :'(	03:29
Jucato	swatgoss: better listen to someone with more experience in dealing with java... I tend to stay away from java...	03:29
Dink	honestly i would get java from sun website	03:29
Dink	its like 2 clicks ;)	03:29
swatgoss	and 1 compilation ?	03:29
Dink	pre compiled	03:29
Dink	well i lied	03:30
swatgoss	is it javac on linux ?	03:30
Linux_Galore	java is easy to setup	03:30
swatgoss	i just need a JVM and javac now ...	03:30
Dink	its like 3 secs for it to set it all up	03:30
Dink	swatgoss get it from sun	03:30
Dink	run it	03:30
Dink	3 sec later	03:30
Dink	you have all you need	03:30
swatgoss	www.sun.com	03:30
Jucato	swatgoss: check the link that was PM'd to you	03:31
swatgoss	oki doki	03:31
momal	anyone happen to have a big list of reps for everything?	03:31
Jucato	momal: more than the "official" repos	03:32
momal	everything on the offical repos and others	03:32
Jucato	er.. that was supposed to be a question	03:32
Jucato	official repos are the ones that come installed	03:33
Jucato	!easysource	03:33
ubotu	source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic	03:33
Linux_Galore	I dont even do that u just downloaded 1.5 with adept and ran sudo update-alternatives --config java	03:33
Jucato	official repos + unofficial ones	03:33
Jucato	Linux_Galore: for jdk?	03:33
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Linux_Galore	Jucato: yes	03:33
Jucato	oh	03:33
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Linux_Galore	java is a no brainer	03:34
Jucato	"no brainer"... does that mean it's for people with no brains? >:)	03:34
Jucato	j/k	03:34
swatgoss	probably ...	03:34
Linux_Galore	want hard, try getting flash 9 windows plugin working in the linux version Firefox	03:34
Linux_Galore	yep I got it working	03:34
swatgoss	double clic on .exe from macromedia !	03:35
Linux_Galore	no use wine	03:35
Jucato	:)	03:35
swatgoss	bah	03:35
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Linux_Galore	yeah but flash 7 has audo lag between the voice and video	03:36
Jucato	3-4 years ago, I would have said that "Flash is THE future"	03:36
Linux_Galore	audio*	03:36
MistaED	linux_galore: how did you get that working? i know crossover can embed quicktime but i was never sure how exactly they did it	03:36
swatgoss	any1 of you know a pinmod guide on P4 prescott ?	03:36
Linux_Galore	MistaED: crossover can install flash 9 too	03:36
Linux_Galore	MistaED: just download the flash 9 exe installer	03:36
MistaED	Linux_Galore: cool, can wine do it?	03:36
MistaED	ok	03:37
Linux_Galore	MistaED: yes it can, bit more complicated though	03:37
swatgoss	i got a KDEWallet error ...	03:37
swatgoss	i typed a password for Kopete	03:37
swatgoss	and it don't recognize it anymore	03:37
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swatgoss	i used "PACES%" inside ...	03:37
swatgoss	SPACES	03:37
Linux_Galore	MistaED: I also found with youtube you have to run at least one video with the flash 7 plugin then install the wine plugin for flash 9 and it works	03:37
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Jucato	swatgoss: which password is it asking for? for the password to your wallet or for Kopete (if you set it not to remember passwords)	03:38
swatgoss	Jucato i want to connect to a protocol, it ask me to open a wallet or something	03:38
swatgoss	i don't know how to say it in english	03:39
Linux_Galore	MistaED: if you try and go straight to youtube with flash 9 setup it wont let you play anything	03:39
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swatgoss	Jucato the password that protect my account password :p	03:39
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Jucato	swatgoss: it's a password for your wallet, which holds the passwords for other stuff that you might have added	03:39
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: you forget the kwallet apssword ??	03:39
Linux_Galore	password*	03:40
swatgoss	not really	03:40
swatgoss	i can't type it again ...	03:40
swatgoss	cuz i used spaces	03:40
swatgoss	it shoed me *	03:40
swatgoss	but now when i retype spaces	03:40
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: ?? spaces, no one uses spaces	03:40
swatgoss	error -9 if i'm right	03:40
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: have to remove the kwallet setup file	03:41
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momal	are there any reps that have the k8-smp kernel's in them? because no matter what i do they never show up >_<	03:41
swatgoss	how can i reset	03:41
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swatgoss	but i didnt find it ... u know where it is ?	03:41
swatgoss	momal do K8-smp exist ?	03:42
momal	http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/allpackages \| according to that it does	03:42
momal	but still wont show in adept	03:42
swatgoss	O_o	03:42
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momal	linux-amd64-k8-smp (2.6.15.25) [restricted] [security] Complete Linux kernel on AMD K8 SMP \| thats what some site told me i should use for amd x2	03:43
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Galathalion	can anyone help me install flashplug-ind for firefox?	03:43
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peter_	is er iemand die nederlands kan lullen?	03:44
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swatgoss	Linux_Galore u know where kwallet setup file is ?	03:45
swatgoss	or just the command to run KDEWallet	03:45
swatgoss	i will suppress account	03:45
MistaED	Linux_Galore: ok done, so now do i just uninstall the linux flash player 7 so firefox picks the wine flash 9?	03:45
swatgoss	and create another	03:45
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Linux_Galore	MistaED: you install flash 7 first then go to youtube	03:46
Linux_Galore	MistaED: your after the cookie	03:46
Linux_Galore	MistaED: run a video	03:46
MistaED	done	03:46
Linux_Galore	MistaED: then install the flash 9 exe installer	03:46
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Linux_Galore	codeweavers is the easy option	03:47
MistaED	yep i used crossover office 5	03:47
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Linux_Galore	MistaED: that it once codeweavers has installed it just make sure the plugin is ticked in the plugins tab and your off	03:47
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swatgoss	i used sudo apt-get install java5-bin java5-jdk, will it be enough ?	03:48
Linux_Galore	MistaED: when you go to you tube it plays flash videos with flash 9 without the audio lag	03:48
Linux_Galore	MistaED: you have to do it in that order or it doesnt work	03:49
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MistaED	Linux_Galore: sure, so now do i restart firefox?	03:49
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Linux_Galore	MistaED: yep	03:49
Linux_Galore	MistaED: should now start using the flash 9 plugin	03:49
MistaED	Linux_Galore: success! cheers man	03:50
Linux_Galore	MistaED: youtube thinks you have a working flash setup because the cookie says so and it works	03:50
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Linux_Galore	MistaED: I show the other Linux geeks flash 9 running in firefox and there stunned lol	03:51
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swatgoss	hummm ...	03:52
swatgoss	java help ?	03:52
MistaED	Linux_Galore: i was just trying to find out how to do this the other day but i totally missed crossover having flash listed in there :P	03:52
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: remove ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.kwl	03:52
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Linux_Galore	swatgoss: should reset the password	03:52
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swatgoss	and what is the command to RUN kdewallet ?	03:52
en1gma	sup all	03:52
MistaED	Linux_Galore: hmm, with crossover it defaults to oss, could i just type in alsa there to use alsa or is it something else?	03:53
swatgoss	should try tu delete account	03:53
Linux_Galore	MistaED: yeah but there is a method to the madness, if you dont do it in the correct order it doesnt work properly	03:53
MistaED	i know wine runs a whole lot better using alsa	03:53
swatgoss	before trying brutal deletion :p	03:53
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Linux_Galore	MistaED: you have to visti all the sites with flash 7 first then install the flash 9 plugin	03:53
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momal	anyone know the rep to add for: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/base/linux-amd64-k8-smp	03:55
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: mv .kde/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.kwl .kde/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.kwl_bak	03:55
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Kiongku	mv is like cut?	03:55
MistaED	Linux_Galore: you know the sound option in crossover has it defaulted to oss? that's causing it to have crap sound for me	03:55
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omar	hola a todos, tengo un pequeo problemita , tengo archivos con y con tilde y se muestran simbolos en vez de eso, los nuevos archivos estan bien y se graban normal, ademas mi teclado no muestra tildes, si.que puedo hacer	03:55
Linux_Galore	MistaED: I set it to alsa	03:56
MistaED	just sticking alsa in there doesn't seem to work, not sure what to put in there, i use 5.0.0	03:56
Linux_Galore	MistaED: works fine then	03:56
Kiongku	!es	03:56
ubotu	Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.	03:56
MistaED	hmm	03:56
omar	sorry wrong language	03:56
omar	:)	03:56
swatgoss	Linux_Galore ok, will do it later, but now i got a bigger problem with sun-java-jre ...	03:56
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Kiongku	lol	03:56
gubatron_	omar says he has files with weird the enhie character and he gets symbols	03:56
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Kiongku	may be i should learn es..	03:56
swatgoss	Linux_Galore u know how to delete undeletable installed packages ?	03:57
omar	gubatron: thanx buddy	03:57
en1gma	ok guys: idk if you rem me BUT i have a big problem. im the guy that can not get any linux installed with this newer rig..i think i got it down to 3 distros (kanotix, kubuntu and gentoo)	03:57
swatgoss	can't with apt-get or with ADEPT	03:57
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: two step just get adept to install the packages and then run sudo update-alternatives --config java	03:57
Kiongku	en1gma: hmm?	03:57
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Linux_Galore	swatgoss: you dont have the repo's setup then if you cant see it	03:57
en1gma	i have an NF4 mb that has onboard nvraid (fake raid) 4 sata drives in a raid 0 array that has 2 partitions. (1 for windows (ntfs) and 1 for future linux)	03:58
en1gma	will kanotix see my hd upon a fresh install	03:58
en1gma	or kubuntu	03:58
en1gma	or gentoo	03:58
swatgoss	Linux_Galore i got the repos, i just installed it with apt-get, but now i wanna delete them :p	03:58
Kiongku	lol (fake raid) ..	03:58
en1gma	what do i have to do to get this working	03:58
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: adept can remove and install	03:58
swatgoss	Linux_Galore really stupid, but they are i386 and i got a i586 version ...	03:58
en1gma	at this point i dont even care what distro works i just want one that "DOES" work	03:58
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: shouldnt matter	03:59
swatgoss	Linux_Galore i know but now he don't want to remove :p	03:59
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: did you run sudo update-alternatives --config java	03:59
swatgoss	don't think	03:59
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Linux_Galore	swatgoss: installing the packages doesnt setup java that command does	03:59
en1gma	so if someone could help you will have my ex-wife lick your nut sack	03:59
en1gma	you = me	03:59
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en1gma	you = i	03:59
en1gma	i just waking up	04:00
en1gma	shes good looking to	04:00
swatgoss	permission denied on option 3	04:00
swatgoss	with update alternative	04:01
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: means you dont have it installed	04:01
en1gma	she has herpes so idk	04:01
swatgoss	just run apt-get install sun-java5-jre	04:01
swatgoss	and now update alternative, option 3	04:02
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: thats jre	04:02
en1gma	come on guys let me help you help me get this installed and be done	04:02
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swatgoss	exactly i ran sun-java5-bin and sun-java5-jdk	04:02
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: go into adept and type in java	04:02
swatgoss	i miss something ?	04:02
en1gma	got to hurry though cause i gonna wake and bake soon	04:02
swatgoss	did it	04:02
momal	garr this sucks they have packages that you can't even get through repos or wont even freeken show them GARRR	04:02
momal	and im sick to death of windows so i aint going back	04:02
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Jucato	Linux_Galore: do not use Adept to install sun-java5 packages	04:02
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Linux_Galore	swatgoss: down the bottom of the list install all the 1.5 java stuff	04:03
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mrbrdo	hi	04:03
flavio	oi	04:03
swatgoss	it tells me i got 4 java installed bin demo jdk jre	04:03
Linux_Galore	Jucato: works fine if you read the version info	04:03
en1gma	wake and bake = get wasted so hurry up	04:03
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mrbrdo	when i try to do aptitude install linux-686, it wants to install "linux-image-2.6.15-23-686", but 2.6.15.27 is already available :S	04:03
Linux_Galore	Jucato: just because some idiots dont read the info doesnt mean it doesnt work	04:03
Kiongku	Jucato: yo	04:03
en1gma	for the love of god someone help[	04:04
Jucato	Linux_Galore: you won't be able to accept the License Agreement in Adept, right?	04:04
Jucato	Kiongku: hi	04:04
swatgoss	Linux_Galore the one i don't got are source plugin fonts doc	04:04
Linux_Galore	Jucato: yes you can when it installs click on details	04:04
Jucato	Linux_Galore: it doesn't work. it's a bug in Adept	04:04
Linux_Galore	Jucato: it shows the license approval	04:04
mrbrdo	can someone explain why linux-686 includes 2.6.15-23 instead of 2.6.15-27?	04:04
Jucato	it just shows, but it won't be able to accept it or anything	04:05
Linux_Galore	Jucato: it works, "if you click on details in the install window"	04:05
Linux_Galore	Jucato: what happens people dont click on details and thus miss the license section	04:05
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Jucato	Linux_Galore: I know that it shows, but you won't be able to user cursor keys to accept the license	04:05
Linux_Galore	Jucato: worked fine for me	04:05
mrbrdo	there seems to be no -27 restricted modules.. how so?	04:05
Jucato	Linux_Galore: are you sure it was sun-java5-* ?	04:06
Linux_Galore	Jucato: yep	04:06
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swatgoss	Jucato Linux_Galore I install every java5-XXX ?	04:06
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momal	yea doesn't seem to be any amd k8 kernels either even though its listed in the packages on the website >_>	04:06
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: no just the 1.5 stuff towards the end	04:06
Jucato	Linux_Galore: dunno, it never worked for anyone except you it seems	04:07
mrbrdo	anyone?	04:07
mrbrdo	2.6.15-27 restriced modules not available.. why?	04:07
Linux_Galore	Jucato: worked for me 46 times in a row on different machines	04:07
Jucato	mrbrdo: make sure that the "restricted" component of "dapper-security" is enabled or is present	04:07
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Linux_Galore	Jucato: then again I install the java fonts stuff	04:08
mrbrdo	Jucato: apt-cache shows them for 2.6.15-23 though :S	04:08
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pussfeller	for some reason, I am getting double clicks in kde when I click once	04:08
pussfeller	this is driving me nuts	04:08
jasondotgnu	Hi, is there something wrong with the alsa dirver (libasound) in current dapper repos?	04:08
en1gma	can someone help pretty please	04:08
Jucato	mrbrdo: like I said, make sure that "restricted" is enabled in dapper-security	04:08
swatgoss	Jucato Linux_Galore i got only 8 sun-java5-*** jdk/jre/demo/bin are installed and source/plugins/font/doc arent	04:08
en1gma	i would rally like to get any distro installed	04:08
jasondotgnu	alsamixer: relocation error: alsamixer: symbol snd_mixer_selem_get_playback_dB, version ALSA_0.9 not defined in file libasound.so.2 with link time reference	04:08
jasondotgnu	I just got this message, and my sound card doesn't work at all.	04:09
en1gma	please please please please	04:09
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Jucato	pussfeller: KDE is set to single click by default. meaning single click = double click	04:09
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: make sure you click on details when it installs or you can accept the license	04:09
en1gma	please please please	04:09
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Linux_Galore	cant*	04:09
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en1gma	why	04:09
mrbrdo	Jucato: should i change deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main to deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted ?	04:09
Jucato	mrbrdo: yes	04:09
swatgoss	Linux_Galore i need them ALL ?	04:09
mrbrdo	and do i need to make the same for dapper-security universe?	04:09
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: not really i just cant remember the file names of the top of my head	04:10
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momal	Jucato: thats what I have already yet doesn't show the k8 kernels when it has the package listed on there site :S	04:10
Jucato	mrbrdo: no. only for main	04:10
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ikam	hello on kopete workin webcam on live dc?	04:10
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Linux_Galore	swatgoss: the 1.5 stuff is all bunched together	04:10
mrbrdo	Jucato: ok thanks	04:10
swatgoss	Linux_Galore O_o i don't see a licence in details ...	04:10
swatgoss	ok will see for 1.5	04:11
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: its towards the botom when you search for java	04:11
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swatgoss	Linux_Galore at the bottom i only got java5 stuff	04:12
swatgoss	no 1.5 ...	04:12
swatgoss	normally its the same thing ...	04:12
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Linux_Galore	swatgoss: hold on	04:12
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: let me swap machines	04:12
swatgoss	Linux_Galore its ok	04:13
swatgoss	i removed all i needed to ...	04:13
swatgoss	thx :p	04:13
swatgoss	was a problem with dependencies	04:13
swatgoss	need every java components to delete them	04:13
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: aah	04:13
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Linux_Galore	swatgoss: yeah I deleted all the 1.4 stuff	04:14
swatgoss	now i can try to install the .bin with my CD :p	04:14
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: and the gnu stuff	04:14
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swatgoss	next step ... using a .bin to install java stuff ... when i see how i noobed with adept ^^'	04:15
swatgoss	i'm scared	04:15
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: yeah I basically install all the sun-java5 packages incuding the fonts	04:16
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zaggynl	Hrm, does anyone know why Ktorrent 2.02 occasionally uses 100% cpu for periods of time?	04:16
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: from memory I did the fonts first	04:16
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Linux_Galore	gnomefreak: yeah install the wrong crappy version for me	04:16
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gnomefreak	Linux_Galore: easy way just install sun-java5-plugin it grabs font packages -bin -jre	04:17
swatgoss	i won't have the latest version, but will contain exemples from my book ...	04:17
gnomefreak	Linux_Galore: wrong crappy version?	04:17
Linux_Galore	gnomefreak: went and installed the 1.4 version	04:17
gnomefreak	ah	04:17
Linux_Galore	god knows why	04:17
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Linux_Galore	had to remove it then install the sun-java5 version	04:18
gnomefreak	if anyone does locate java with java installed you will see 1.4	04:18
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momal	does anyone here have an amd 64? if so what kernel arch do you use ?	04:20
Linux_Galore	gnomefreak: or just type java -version	04:20
swatgoss	new issue ... got a "jdk-1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin" and i never compiled anything before ...	04:20
Dr_Willis	momal, i use the 686 kernel	04:20
swatgoss	Fougasse time !!!	04:20
Linux_Galore	weird mandriva has a newer version of java than kubuntu	04:20
gnomefreak	Linux_Galore: to change java -version use sudo update-alternatives --config java	04:20
Linux_Galore	gnomefreak: I know that	04:21
Linux_Galore	gnomefreak: I posted that same line 15 minutes ago	04:21
momal	Dr_willis: even for amd64?	04:21
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Dr_Willis	momal, I dont use the 64bit distro.. so i use the 686 kernel on my 32bit install.	04:22
Linux_Galore	same here I use the i686 kernel	04:22
Linux_Galore	only down side is I have to manually install nvidia again on each update	04:23
swatgoss	Linux_Galore gnomefreak lol :p	04:23
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Linux_Galore	kubuntu runs very fast on my P4 2.8Ghz machone, with windows its not fast at all	04:25
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momal	Linux_galore: that wont be a prob for me since i wont update that often but right now I have to reinstall the nvidia drivers every time i reboot the damn box	04:25
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Linux_Galore	momal: should read the logs see whats stuffing up	04:25
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Linux_Galore	momal: under /var/logs	04:26
momal	they dont' say anything.. its just each time i reboot and check what X has to say when i goto manual start it says about api mismatch between nvidia kernel and X module	04:26
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Linux_Galore	momal: install an older version of the nvidia driver	04:28
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momal	tried that does same thing	04:28
Linux_Galore	NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7676-pkg1.run	04:28
Linux_Galore	is what I use, works fine	04:29
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fraco	momal: sorry for jumping in this, sounds like the issue with the kernel modules update problem ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257459)?	04:29
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momal	Linux_Galore: thats bit old will that support my GR7800gt?	04:30
momal	GF7800gt**	04:30
Linux_Galore	momal: I have a GF4	04:30
momal	fraco: going to look at that link now	04:30
Linux_Galore	momal: you need a 8*** series driver	04:30
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Linux_Galore	momal: read the link	04:31
momal	nope thats not the prob im having :S	04:32
fraco	ok sorry then	04:32
en1gma	can someone help me	04:32
en1gma	please	04:33
swatgoss	expose problem :p	04:33
swatgoss	(s) ?	04:33
momal	its fine anyone trying to help i give thanks to lol... my prob is \| I start up the box it freezes on kubuntu loading screen and X doesn't start. I install nvidia drivers from console. restart X and kdm all works fine. I reboot and have to do it all over again.\|	04:33
Linux_Galore	momal: if you change the driver in xorg.conf to nv does it work fine	04:33
en1gma	i have NF4 mboard that has onboard nvraid (fake raid/software raid) my 4 sata drives are in a raid0 array. i have 2 partitions on em (1 for windows and 1 for future install of linux)	04:34
en1gma	how do i install	04:34
Dr_Willis	en1gma, install what?	04:34
en1gma	kubuntu	04:34
swatgoss	linux ? :p	04:34
en1gma	anything	04:34
en1gma	idk as long as its linux (well not redhat FC)	04:34
momal	he is having troubl einstalling linux but hasn't said what errors he gets or that lol	04:34
swatgoss	do u tested ubiquity detection ?	04:34
Dr_Willis	i wouldent be using the fakeraid stuff.	04:34
en1gma	it dont see the array	04:35
momal	Linux_Galore: umm will try that once the 686 kernel has downloaded going to try it if still can't get stuff to work	04:35
Dr_Willis	set up some of them for windows.. and leave a single HD just for linux.	04:35
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file look for a line with Driver "nvidia" change it to "nv"	04:35
en1gma	i have no choice it is the hardware i have	04:35
swatgoss	hum	04:35
en1gma	im not breaking the array up	04:35
swatgoss	i got a Radeon mobility :p	04:35
Dr_Willis	en1gma, not sure how well supported the nvraid is.	04:35
en1gma	well i prey to god someone can help...cause i like linux been using slackware for long time now	04:36
Dr_Willis	i know my onboard raid was more hassle then its worth.	04:36
swatgoss	do the RAID is on a ddicated controller ?	04:36
en1gma	but im ready to switch distro if i cant install it	04:36
Dr_Willis	You got slackware installed on that system? or have?	04:36
en1gma	the raid is on an nvidia radi controller (on board)	04:36
Dr_Willis	or any othe rdisrto?	04:36
en1gma	i cant install any linux right now	04:36
swatgoss	Silicon Image ?	04:36
en1gma	nothing sees the array	04:36
en1gma	nvraid	04:36
swatgoss	the chip	04:36
Linux_Galore	swatgoss: I have some problems with nvidia last week, turned out I had the wrong version of the linux kernel drivers for the kernel	04:36
en1gma	the chip is called nvraid	04:36
swatgoss	Linux_Galore I DON T HAVE PROBLEmE	04:37
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swatgoss	Linux_Galore with nvidia :p	04:37
momal	lol!	04:37
mrbrdo	when i run aptitude update, i get "The following packages have been kept back:" then a list of 30+ packages.. why are they kept back and how to update them anyhow?	04:37
swatgoss	Linux_Galore say it to momal	04:37
Dr_Willis	en1gma, i would say check the ubuntu forums/wiki page - see if others are using a similer setup and what they had to do.	04:37
en1gma	amng	04:37
Linux_Galore	momal : I have some problems with nvidia last week, turned out I had the wrong version of the linux kernel drivers for the kernel	04:37
Linux_Galore	heh heh	04:37
swatgoss	Linux_Galore i got a Radeon Mobility 9200 ... and no problem with my 6600GT AGP on my desk PC	04:37
Linux_Galore	time for bed	04:37
en1gma	does the newest amd64 version have DM built in	04:37
en1gma	and dmraid on the dvd	04:38
swatgoss	4:38pm here :p good time for bed too ! ^^	04:38
en1gma	if dand FC5 can do it there has to be away to do it to a good distro	04:38
mrbrdo	when i run aptitude update, i get "The following packages have been kept back:" then a list of 30+ packages.. why are they kept back and how to update them anyhow?	04:39
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mrbrdo	upgrade, sorry	04:39
mrbrdo	not update	04:39
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en1gma	FC5 can do it other distros can to right?	04:39
Jucato	mrbrdo: were you able to find the linux-restricted-modules you were looking for?	04:39
mrbrdo	Jucato: yeah i got that sorted out	04:39
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mrbrdo	Jucato: i added a few more repos now, and now all those packages are kept back, dunno why	04:40
Jucato	what repos did you add?	04:40
Linux_Galore	en1gma: yes there is dmraid	04:40
fraco	mrbrdo: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/69	04:40
en1gma	there is?	04:40
fraco	try apt-get dist-upgrade	04:40
en1gma	do you think it will pick my drives up?	04:40
mrbrdo	Jucato: if i try with adept-update though, it does say upgrade, but it wants to install some packages which i don't know why (xmms, don't have it now, some like that too)	04:40
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Linux_Galore	en1gma: you can see the answers to your questions on the ubuntu home page	04:40
en1gma	k 1 sec	04:40
Jucato	mrbrdo: what repos did you add?	04:40
Linux_Galore	en1gma: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=dmraid&version=dapper&arch=amd64'	04:41
momal	pc booted up fine just now with bad drivers >_<	04:41
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Linux_Galore	en1gma: remove the comma on the end of that url	04:41
momal	http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/base/linux-image-2.6.15-26-amd64-k8 \| that is it possible to get that using apt-get? because it wont show and im pretty sure i have the rep for it.	04:41
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en1gma	Linux_Galore what am i looking for on the home page	04:42
Linux_Galore	en1gma: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=dmraid&version=dapper&arch=amd64	04:42
Linux_Galore	klick on the link	04:42
Linux_Galore	heh heh	04:42
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en1gma	Linux_Galore does it auto setup the scripts so it will see the drive upon install or is there somewhere between installing and computer being off that i can make adjustments	04:43
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en1gma	?	04:45
en1gma	netsplit?	04:46
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momal	garr this sucks im going to bed 12:46am... maybe i can think a bit more in the morning to figure this crap out so much for changing to a gf7800gt, amdx2 4200 and 2gb and doesn't even work properly >_<	04:47
TheGateKeeper	just done an update and get this error with Flash install ----> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24389 is there a way to reinstall the previous version?	04:47
mrbrdo	Jucato: sry, didn't notice before.. i added some more using www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic	04:47
en1gma	Linux_Galore where are you	04:47
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SillyZ	gmorning	04:49
Jucato	mrbrdo: I'm guessing you probably added the "Kubuntu.org packages for the latest KDE version"?	04:49
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fildo	Jucato: hey mate you alive?	04:50
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Jucato	yep.. still alive	04:51
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fildo	i have a tuff issue	04:52
fildo	n wondering if you could give me ur opinion	04:53
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josh_	what up people.... how do i delete the command history?	04:53
swatgoss	CTRL+ALT+BackSpace ?	04:54
fildo	hehe ok, well i have been donated a 733, so i rebuilt it n installed dapper	04:54
Dink	.bashhistory maybe ?	04:54
josh_	no like the bash command line lhistory	04:54
Dink	.bash_history maybe ?	04:54
fildo	but when i boot i get this error "bug: soft lockup detected on CPU#0" >	04:54
Jucato	fildo: tuff.. I have no idea.. :(	04:54
fildo	yeh	04:55
fildo	i have 3 alternate cpu's	04:55
Dink	josh, .bash_history	04:55
fildo	i have changed them, still error	04:55
fildo	googled, n they reckons its some interupt issue	04:55
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fildo	but i got no idea ..	04:55
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Jucato	josh_: "history -c"	04:56
swatgoss	how to install a .bin jdk pack ?	04:57
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Dink	josh_, if you want to remove it compeltly and forever... ln -s /dev/null ~/.bash_history	04:58
swatgoss	sudo rm -R / ?	04:59
swatgoss	will remove history too :p	04:59
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v3ctor	commands like those are not for joking	04:59
josh_	yeah along with the system	04:59
swatgoss	will it really work ?	04:59
josh_	try it and see	05:00
swatgoss	no security ?	05:00
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Jucato	clear bash history = "history -c"	05:00
josh_	Jucato: tried that... didn't work... so i just rm'ed the file	05:00
Jucato	strange... it worked here...	05:00
josh_	it just showed me the history starting with line 9	05:01
Jucato	huh??	05:01
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josh_	lol	05:01
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Jucato	history -c ???	05:01
josh_	ill show you the output of history -c	05:02
Jucato	no quotes	05:02
Jucato	nvm...	05:02
swatgoss	... bad question: do you prefer "luck a dick" or "lick a duck" ?	05:02
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Dink	josh_ do what I typed and it will remove it forever :s	05:02
Dink	and never get history again	05:02
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josh_	nah i still want history just want to clean it up alittle	05:03
Dink	edit the file :p	05:03
josh_	make it easier for me to find the commands i use	05:03
josh_	:)	05:03
swatgoss	speaking about remove, rm have an "security rewrite" option ?	05:03
josh_	its not rewrite	05:03
josh_	its remove	05:04
josh_	and yes	05:04
josh_	if you use the -f switch it wont ask	05:04
josh_	if you leave out the -f then it will ask you about everyfile you are about to delete	05:04
josh_	hey	05:05
josh_	does ubuntu support direct frame buffer yet?	05:05
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josh_	i wana get quingy working but so far i haven't been able to get directfb installed	05:05
swatgoss	uh O_o i was thinking about a secure erasing	05:05
swatgoss	OS write random data on erased file location	05:05
swatgoss	or something like that	05:06
josh_	not that i am aware of	05:06
v3ctor	swatgoss: there are tools for that	05:06
josh_	im sure some application out there can do it	05:06
josh_	but its not build into the os	05:06
v3ctor	wipe and srm do secure rm	05:06
swatgoss	v3ctor yep but wondering if one of them was "inside" the kernel	05:06
TheGateKeeper	anyone know who to install a previous version of something after an update?	05:06
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v3ctor	swatgoss: no	05:07
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josh_	TheGateKeeper: look in your dpkg folder and see if you still have the original	05:07
josh_	im not aware of linux having a "rollback" option	05:07
Jucato	TheGateKeeper: flashplugin-nonfree?	05:07
josh_	lol Jucato that happen alot here?	05:07
TheGateKeeper	Jucato: yep	05:08
Jucato	yes, bugged update in dapper-backports	05:08
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josh_	either that or your psychic :P either way... whats up my new best friend	05:08
josh_	lol	05:08
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Jucato	You can downgrade to the earlier dapper version, but chances are Flash won't work	05:08
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Jucato	so I was told to download and install the .deb package from Edgy	05:09
josh_	why not just have the browser do it? just have him get the plugin from mozilla	05:09
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Jucato	josh_: because it doesn't work that way in Linux	05:09
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josh_	sure it does... have him go to a site with flash, it will ask about installing missing stuff... do a manual install	05:10
Jucato	TheGateKeeper: if you really need flash now, download the deb from one of these mirrors: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmultiverse%2Ff%2Fflashplugin-nonfree%2Fflashplugin-nonfree_7.0.68~ubuntu2_i386.deb&md5sum=c464e3e4d41a9305481a7d5574dcdb0d&arch=i386&type=main	05:10
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Jucato	josh_: 100% sure about that?	05:10
josh_	not really :)	05:10
josh_	;P	05:10
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josh_	but it worked for me if i recall correctly	05:11
josh_	i have flash on mine....	05:11
Jucato	josh_: used something like Automatix?	05:11
josh_	eww... no	05:11
josh_	lol i heard bad things baout that one	05:11
josh_	security issues and such	05:11
Jucato	because I'm sure as hell that Flash can't be installed that way	05:11
josh_	really...	05:12
josh_	now i have to check	05:12
Jucato	probably on wine yes, but not in native Linux	05:12
josh_	whats a site with flash? www.flash.com?	05:12
Jucato	newgrounds.com, youtube,	05:12
nenad__	#neno	05:13
josh_	going to youtube	05:13
mrbrdo	when i do aptitude upgrade, it says that amarok and amarok-xine will be kept back.. when i try in adept-update, and request upgrade, it says BREAK (upgrade) under Requested	05:14
josh_	mrbrdo: i am having same problem it seems :)	05:14
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mrbrdo	is it possible the package is broken?	05:14
Jucato	ugh.... source-o-matic....	05:14
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mrbrdo	i used source-o-matic	05:15
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josh_	i think it might have to be that the security code changed or the repo addy is now incorect	05:15
TheGateKeeper	thanx Jucato :-) can you please remind me the command to install it, failing memory grrr	05:15
josh_	lol yep Jucato	05:15
josh_	sudo dpkg -i file	05:15
Jucato	TheGateKeeper: sudo dpkg -i <.deb name>	05:15
mrbrdo	Jucato: i think this was written out before i added the source-o-matic sources.list though	05:15
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mrbrdo	Jucato: i mean, it didn't want to update those packages before either	05:16
josh_	youtube aint loading for me.... :( like the site is busy or something... ill try newground	05:16
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TheGateKeeper	thanx Jucato :-) I am getting old & irritating :-)	05:16
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mrbrdo	and why does adept-update want to install "libgpod0, libifp4, libsdl1.2debian, libsdl1.2debian-alsa, python-qt3", but APT-GET\Aptitude don't mention these packages at all	05:17
josh_	newground.com? or newgrounds.com?	05:17
wedgeV	why do i always get a bunch of 404 http errors when updating with aptitude? is my mirror syncing to slow?	05:17
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mrbrdo	wedgeV: i think u have an error in sources.list	05:17
wedgeV	actually, not _my_ mirror, but at.archive.ubuntu.com	05:17
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visik7	I wonder how kubuntu reach a stable version in a month from now	05:18
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mrbrdo	visik7: u mean edgy?	05:18
wedgeV	mrbrdo: well it works, it just doesnt work for some packages, when i wait a day, the packages download fine	05:18
josh_	my flash works...	05:18
visik7	mrbrdo: yes	05:18
visik7	mrbrdo: I've installed knot3	05:18
visik7	I know is "alpha stage"	05:18
wedgeV	must be that the mirror is updating their package list before they even have the new packages	05:18
mrbrdo	wedgeV: try a different mirror from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive	05:18
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wedgeV	thanks	05:19
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mrbrdo	np, just change the urls at.archive.ubuntu.com to the mirror url u choose	05:19
visik7	but from here to a stable product there is a long way	05:19
mrbrdo	leave secruity.ubuntu alone..	05:19
TheGateKeeper	Jucato: hay I found 'install' on the konqueror right hand click menu, wooow I can be a real lazy pig now :-)	05:19
mrbrdo	Jucato: and why does adept-update want to install "libgpod0, libifp4, libsdl1.2debian, libsdl1.2debian-alsa, python-qt3", but APT-GET\Aptitude don't mention these packages at all	05:19
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mrbrdo	brb	05:21
nenad__	ik	05:21
josh_	ok correction it wasn't working	05:21
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nenad__	#neno	05:21
josh_	and all i did was download the linux package from flash and then ran their installer	05:22
josh_	now i have flash	05:22
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mrbrdo	so, why does adept-update want to install those packages? any ideas?	05:25
Jucato	because that's part of updating	05:25
mrbrdo	but apt-get doesn't say anything about those packages	05:25
Jucato	I mean upgrading	05:25
wedgeV	mrbrdo: maybe they are suggested?	05:26
mrbrdo	apart from amok and amok-xine, apt-get says i am up-to-date	05:26
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mrbrdo	wedgeV: dunno, apt-get doesn't say anything about them	05:26
wedgeV	aptitude always shows a list of packages that are suggested to be installed, maybe adept install them by default?	05:27
wedgeV	just a guess	05:27
mrbrdo	well, aptitude shows when u install something	05:27
mrbrdo	not AFTER	05:27
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mrbrdo	it doesn't keep saying x was recommended for y	05:28
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trappist	what's a really lightweight audio player I can associate with .wavs so I can listen to my voip voicemail from kmail? right now I'm using mplayer, but that doesn't give me control to adjust volume, pause, stop etc.	05:32
mrbrdo	when i start downloading a package by aptitude, and cancel it in the middle, i can resume it later.. how to clean such partially-downloaded packages	05:34
wedgeV	mrbrdo: /var/cache/apt/packages	05:34
trappist	mrbrdo: sudo apt-get clean (that will also clean out completely downloaded package files that have been installed	05:34
wedgeV	oh, ok	05:35
trappist	"kaboodle" was the answer to my question.	05:35
trappist	kaboodle - light, embedded media player for KDE	05:36
trappist	I love there to always be an asnwer	05:36
trappist	*answer	05:36
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trappist	can't change volume from kaboodle, but there's about 10 other places I can click to do that	05:37
mrbrdo	trappist: thx	05:38
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Kennie	lo, I've installed ipw3945 and it runs (ps aux \| grep ipw return 2 daemons..) but it seems kubuntu still doesnt find my networkcard on newest kernel (2.6.15-26) any suggestions?	05:38
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h3sp4wn	mrbrdo: sudo apt-get autoclean (will clean all packages except that latest ones)	05:39
trappist	Kennie: is that like the next generation of the ipw2200?	05:39
trappist	Kennie: if so, it could be that the 2.6.15 kernel doesn't support it	05:39
mrbrdo	hm, after updating the kernel, my sound doesn't work anymore (on either of my sound cards) :/	05:39
Kennie	I've got a Dell 6400 and google says thats the one I need	05:40
host-one	hi	05:40
mrbrdo	alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device	05:40
mrbrdo	aplay -l does list them	05:40
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trappist	mrbrdo: what does asoundconf list say?	05:40
mrbrdo	displays usage parameters? :P	05:41
host-one	what's the best and fast Sorting algorithm?	05:41
trappist	mrbrdo: are you on dapper?	05:41
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mrbrdo	it lists modem,V8235	05:41
mrbrdo	trappist: yes	05:41
mrbrdo	it doesn't list my usb card	05:41
trappist	mrbrdo: and you said "asoundconf list"?	05:41
mrbrdo	but it does list my integrated card	05:41
mrbrdo	yep	05:41
trappist	oh usb	05:41
trappist	I don't know anything about that	05:41
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mrbrdo	but i have a normal one too	05:42
wedgeV	quicksort is fast	05:42
mrbrdo	and it doesn't work on that either	05:42
trappist	host-one: if there was such a thing, it would be the only sorting algorithm.	05:42
mrbrdo	asoundconf is-active displays nothing	05:42
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host-one	trappist : and what's your favourite sorting algorithm :P	05:44
judibet	Bonjour tout le monde !	05:44
judibet	Hi everybody!!	05:44
host-one	judibet: only english	05:44
trappist	host-one: whichever one ruby uses for .sort :)	05:44
judibet	It's the same! :p	05:44
Jonty	How do I change my display manager	05:44
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h3sp4wn	Jonty: depends which one you want to change to	05:45
wedgeV	host-one: quicksort	05:45
trappist	mrbrdo: try "asoundconf set-default-card $(asoundconf list \| tail -n1)"	05:45
trappist	Jonty: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm	05:45
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trappist	Jonty: that will let you choose from the list of installed *dms	05:46
wedgeV	host-one: mergesort is also fine for the average case	05:46
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Jonty	Yeah, I want to change it to KDM, sorry	05:46
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Jonty	Ah, that's great, thanks, trappist	05:47
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Electrolyte	Is there an IRC channel for Konversation? I've got a really annoying problem with it :/	05:51
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fildo	hey guys where are ksplashscreen kept ?	05:51
trappist	Electrolyte: you could try #konversation, and there's a #kde, but this is probably a good place to start	05:52
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Electrolyte	Well, the problem is with Konversation it's self - on any message, if Konversation isn't the active window, it flashes the task bar.	05:52
Electrolyte	I've not enabled anything for it to do that :/	05:52
trappist	Electrolyte: you can change the global behavior of items in the taskbar, but I don't know whether konversation has a particular setting for it	05:53
Electrolyte	Where would the global setting be? It doesn't look like Konversation has it's own.	05:53
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MidMark	guys, to change the panel look at the bottom in kde what I have to change? window decoration?	05:55
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trappist	Electrolyte: hrm, can't seem to find it myself	05:55
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trappist	MidMark: right-click on the panel, configure panel	05:56
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MidMark	trappist: yes, but how to change to a themed one?	05:57
trappist	Electrolyte: are you talking about the system tray icon blinking?	05:57
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Electrolyte	No.	05:57
Electrolyte	The task tray.	05:57
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morpheus	hi all	05:57
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MidMark	like this one http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=42545&file1=42545-1.png&file2=&file3=&name=Dark+Light.+The+native+KDE+windeco.	05:58
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Electrolyte	Can't find anything for this.	05:59
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Electrolyte	And it's bugging me	05:59
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\|lostbyte\|	Smart boot manager !!	06:00
trappist	Electrolyte: you might try asking in #kde, but I don't see a setting for it either, so the best next step is to file a bug report	06:00
Electrolyte	Just fixed it.	06:00
\|lostbyte\|	Any one used it ?	06:00
trappist	Electrolyte: hah. what was it?	06:00
abattoir	Electrolyte: you want to remove the tasbar flashing upon an event?	06:00
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Electrolyte	I simply clicked "Default" in the task bar settings :S	06:00
abattoir	Electrolyte: Configure Notifications?	06:00
Electrolyte	Even though there's no setting for flashing it.	06:00
TunaTom	\|lostbyte\|: jeah: that's a cool thing.	06:00
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Electrolyte	abattoir: Not in there - it was KDE's taskbar settings, even though the option wasn't there.	06:01
Electrolyte	So strange.	06:01
main2	Electrolyte: why dont you use 'amsn' ?	06:01
Electrolyte	Don't like it.	06:01
\|lostbyte\|	TunaTom, oh, great. i used it and its cool. But i want to write the menu to MBR. Whats that option called ?	06:01
main2	its very similar to msn messenger	06:01
Electrolyte	Konversation does it's job, so I'll stick with it.	06:01
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main2	ahhhh soryr	06:01
main2	...	06:01
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main2	i was confused with kopete..	06:02
Electrolyte	amsn doesn't support multiple protocols the last time I used it.	06:02
main2	sorry..	06:02
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Electrolyte	I use Kopete for 4 IM services too :P	06:02
main2	... kopete = :puke:	06:02
Mortice	i use bitlbee for IM :)	06:02
main2	even while it supports multiple protocols	06:02
Electrolyte	Yeah but it does it's job for the 4 protocols that I need.	06:02
main2	i prefer amsn for the chitchat stuff	06:02
main2	bitlbee?	06:02
Mortice	IM to IRC gateway	06:02
Electrolyte	Not had a problem with Kopete, and it has the Trillian Pro smilies.	06:02
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main2	Electrolyte: i dont give a **** about smilies :X	06:03
main2	;-))	06:03
Electrolyte	I do :)	06:03
Electrolyte	I had to remove my KVM switch just now since it was causing the white to turn yellow on this machine.	06:03
Electrolyte	Now Linux looks better than I first installed it :/	06:03
TunaTom	\|lostbyte\|: I don't think you can do that.	06:03
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main2	Electrolyte: bad cables i guess?	06:04
trappist	Electrolyte: if you want true chat nirvana, identify your favorite irc client, and use bitlbee	06:04
Electrolyte	Yeah, so I've thrown it away.	06:04
main2	im on a kvm atm (ps2 one :( )	06:04
Electrolyte	Nah, I'm fine :P	06:04
TunaTom	\|lostbyte\|: Isn't this thing _just_ a bootdisk?	06:04
trappist	Electrolyte: bitlbee is an irc server that connects to your im accounts	06:04
main2	so i have one keyboard, and one monitor -> and 2 usb mices	06:04
Electrolyte	I'm fine with Konversation and Kopete - I enjoy using them :]	06:04
morpheus	hi all....	06:04
main2	Electrolyte: if you ever get a new one, get a usb one..	06:04
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Electrolyte	I'll get a mains-powered one next.	06:05
\|lostbyte\|	TunaTom, ahh.	06:05
trappist	Electrolyte: I prefer having ALL my chat in a single window - a console window, so I can run it in screen and connect to it from anywhere and never close it	06:05
\|lostbyte\|	TunaTom, ok, close call. tx	06:05
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Mortice	trappist is a (wo)man after my own heart.	06:05
TunaTom	\|lostbyte\|: ok.	06:05
Electrolyte	Kopete supports groups any way, but I prefer them being individual windows.	06:05
Electrolyte	Oh ok, I HAVEN'T fixed that task bar flashing issue :/	06:06
Electrolyte	Good god, what the hell caused this	06:06
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morpheus	i've some problem to configure my ati x700 (on notebook) with kubuntu 6.06	06:06
morpheus	someone can help me?	06:06
arunkale	hey people.. if i run an application from the konsole, and it starts, if i close the konsole window, the application closes too.. is there any way to get around this?	06:07
XTorchedX	what the hell	06:07
XTorchedX	this looks just like XP	06:07
abattoir	arunkale: one of the options would be to use the KDE Run dialog(Alt+F2)	06:08
trappist	arunkale: nohup programname	06:08
XTorchedX	<-- noob	06:08
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Dr_Willis	You booted to the wrong os.	06:08
Dr_Willis	:)	06:08
XTorchedX	heh	06:08
arunkale	trappist: thanks! that worked	06:08
Kennie	bah got everything working on kubuntu except stupid wireless :P	06:08
XTorchedX	you know that episode of the simpsons where they go to shelbyville	06:08
XTorchedX	and everything is just a little bit different	06:09
XTorchedX	that's how this kubuntu live cd looks when you come from xp	06:09
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Dr_Willis	and.. err.. you expected it to be identical?	06:10
XTorchedX	no	06:10
Dr_Willis	or Radicially different? :P	06:10
XTorchedX	i expected it to be foreign	06:10
Dr_Willis	why. :P	06:10
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XTorchedX	and it's good a freaking start bar	06:10
fildo	hey guys can anyone tell me where the ksplashscreen are stored ?	06:10
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XTorchedX	because the last not-windows os i used was freebsd 4 or something	06:10
XTorchedX	and i set it up myself	06:11
\|lostbyte\|	Can any one tell me, why this ant possible. "Writing a bootable image to a usb stick" ?	06:11
XTorchedX	so it looked like a gaping ass	06:11
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main2	in what dir is OpenSSL installed ?	06:11
TunaTom	fildo: try /usr/share/apps/ksplash/Themes	06:11
Dr_Willis	\|lostbyte\|, a bootable cd - has files in a special area, (a boot floppy image) that lets it load. From what ive read on the dsl, and other linux-on-a-usb-stick pages - a similer trick is done with them.	06:12
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Dr_Willis	and the different usb sticks got different sizes/cyl/sectors info - like hard drives do.	06:12
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\|lostbyte\|	Dr_Willis, sepcial area..k, Is there a method you know on how to boot an image from a usb stick ? and yes i have the option in da BIOS.	06:14
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main2	checking for OpenSSL directory... configure: error: Could not find a linkable OpenSSL. You can specify an explicit path using --with-ssl-dir	06:14
main2	what path should i provide?	06:14
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trappist	\|lostbyte\|: the boot image has to have support for all the usb filesystem goodness built into the kernel, or into the initrd	06:15
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Dr_Willis	\|lostbyte\|, i had DSL (damn small linux) doing it once. for a Ubuntu Install to a usb device.. theres some other things that need to be done. the Ubuntu Hacks book had a chapter on that.	06:17
Dr_Willis	\|lostbyte\|, what exactly are you referingto when you say an 'image;	06:17
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Kennie	does linux/ubuntu has support for WPA2 yet?	06:19
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\|lostbyte\|	Dr_Willis, an image, like an iso or a linux rescue disk image or one of those netboot images.	06:20
Kennie	asume as yes :P	06:20
\|lostbyte\|	i was wanting to write them on a usbstick so i can tell it where the iso is. to install.	06:20
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Dr_Willis	Ive seen no way to directly copu a .iso image to a usb drive. or hard drive and boot from it. could be ive just not noticed a way to do it.	06:20
Dr_Willis	The iso to usb install's ive seen involove mounting the iso file and copying the files over the the usb stick, then some other tweaks.	06:21
swatgoss	2 questions this time	06:21
\|lostbyte\|	let me check a sec, i seen it some place.. but really didt understand. be right back..	06:21
trappist	I would expect something like 'dd if=/path/to/image.iso of=/dev/sda' to work (where sda is the device of the usb stick)	06:21
TunaTom	swatgoss: #1?	06:21
Dr_Willis	some live cd's include a 'install to usb stick' feature - ive noticed	06:21
swatgoss	how do i compile/install my jdk from the .bin on my CD ...	06:21
Dr_Willis	trappist, ive never seen it done that way.	06:22
swatgoss	and 2nd, what is the plugin needed to "activate" msn audio conversation on aMSN/Kopete	06:22
\|lostbyte\|	trappist, yes, i was thinking the same thing. But is that possible ?	06:22
TunaTom	swatgoss: sudo sh /path/to/cd/jsdk.12318.bin	06:22
trappist	swatgoss: once you set up your repos, you can just sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre	06:22
fildo	TunaTom: thnx	06:22
trappist	swatgoss: or -jdk as appropriate	06:22
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swatgoss	no repos :p	06:22
TunaTom	fildo: what didi I do?	06:22
trappist	or use make-jpkg on the .bin to turn it into a .deb	06:22
Dr_Willis	just booting off a usb hard drive. takes a little work under ubuntu as well.	06:22
Dr_Willis	aparently the correct usb modules are not in the default initrd. ( i recall)	06:23
swatgoss	trappist wondering something like that	06:23
swatgoss	sudo make-j(d?)pkg jdk1.5.bin	06:23
TunaTom	swatgoss: you want it to stay under package management or have it "just installed"?	06:23
swatgoss	hummm	06:24
swatgoss	don't really think i understand :p	06:24
swatgoss	i have a CD with a .bin jdk, ready to compile or something	06:24
swatgoss	i will copy it on my hdd	06:25
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swatgoss	make a .deb or something and install it i thnik (never done it before)	06:25
trappist	swatgoss: you would say something like make-jpkg filename.bin	06:25
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TunaTom	swatgoss: you want to be able to apt-get remove it?	06:25
swatgoss	isn't make-dpkg ?	06:25
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trappist	swatgoss: ah, here it is: 'fakeroot make-jpkg filename.bin'	06:25
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trappist	swatgoss: not in this case	06:25
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trappist	swatgoss: this is a special tool specifically for making java packages	06:26
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swatgoss	ok, and for apt-get ... don't really matter for me	06:26
trappist	why	06:26
main2	checking for OpenSSL directory... configure: error: Could not find a linkable OpenSSL. You can specify an explicit path using --with-ssl-dir	06:26
main2	what path should i provide?	06:26
fildo	hey can u restart samba like this " /etc/init.d/samba restart " ?	06:27
h3sp4wn	I thought you used java-package for installing the java jdk or sdk	06:27
swatgoss	i don't think i will update the version of my jdk	06:27
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trappist	h3sp4wn: java-package is the package that contains make-jpkg iirc	06:27
h3sp4wn	trappist: Ah right	06:27
swatgoss	by default on Kubuntu 6.06 ? (feeling noobish ...)	06:28
trappist	main2: /usr/include/openssl if you've installed libssl-dev	06:29
italian	i got the flickering tv screen for the ati drivers, anyone know how i can change it to NTSC	06:29
trappist	main2: but your configure script should find it, if it's installed	06:29
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swatgoss	and for MSN audio connection ?	06:30
swatgoss	it tells me it needs a plugin	06:30
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main2	trappist: thanks, im not sure wether its installed..	06:31
main2	im trying to install a 'tor-network' client	06:31
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main2	http://tor.eff.org/	06:32
trappist	main2: well, sudo apt-get install libssl-dev ought to do it	06:32
main2	configure continues	06:33
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main2	configure finally finished without probs :D, hopefully compiling goes smoother...	06:33
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swatgoss	trappist make-jpkg not found	06:35
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swatgoss	not really surprising :p	06:35
trappist	swatgoss: have to install java-package for it	06:35
swatgoss	and non java specific command is ?	06:36
swatgoss	the .bin is THE JDK, not a java program	06:36
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main2	i just started 'katapult' but when i press 'alt+enter' the screen goes blank (white screen)	06:36
main2	and nothin happens, am i doing something wrong?	06:36
Mortice	main2: i thought the default hotkey for katapult was alt-space?	06:37
Hawkwind	main2: alt-space	06:37
swatgoss	trappist could make-dpkg work ?	06:37
trappist	swatgoss: no	06:37
trappist	swatgoss: you can just say 'sudo sh filename.bin' and that'll install it. but make-jpkg is preferred, as it keeps you within the package management system.	06:37
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swatgoss	ok	06:38
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swatgoss	but not a problem to don't have control of it under package manager	06:38
trappist	swatgoss: the problems that come from stepping outside the package manager aren't obvious. you should always use the package manager when possible.	06:39
XTorchedX	someone's trying to send me a file on kopete	06:39
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XTorchedX	and it's not working	06:39
XTorchedX	they're on msn	06:39
arunkale	XTorchedX: msn or yahoo	06:39
arunkale	okay..	06:39
arunkale	XTorchedX: i think kopete has some sort of file size limit	06:39
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XTorchedX	it's just a jpg	06:40
XTorchedX	not an mp3 or anything	06:40
swatgoss	trappist yes, i know, but for this its not very important :p do the sh need a path ? or something, i tried the path on my desktop and only the filename and don't work	06:40
swatgoss	arunkale don't think so, no limits in Kopete	06:41
trappist	swatgoss: my point is that it could become important later. the problems aren't obvious to you right now.	06:41
XTorchedX	all i see is 02:39:24] - --Incoming file transfer.	06:41
XTorchedX	but there's no option to accept it or anything	06:41
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trappist	XTorchedX: are you behind a firewall, or a linux router?	06:41
swatgoss	XTorchedX in normal time it opens an other window	06:41
arunkale	XTorchedX: when i started using kopete, i had the same problem, but after a week of using it, it seems to have fixed itself :\	06:41
italian	can anybody confirm that these drivers work for dual-screen? > http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide	06:41
swatgoss	arunkale miraculous linux !!! ^^	06:42
arunkale	haha	06:42
XTorchedX	trappist, unless there are some mega lockdown features in kubuntu, then it shouldn't be a problem	06:43
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XTorchedX	i mean default	06:43
trappist	XTorchedX: there aren't. I'm asking what's between you and the rest of the world, if anything. msn file transfers are tricky for linux routing and firewalling to deal with.	06:43
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XTorchedX	just me thena netgear home router	06:44
XTorchedX	it's not linux	06:44
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swatgoss	trappist whats the name of your "java-package" in adept ?	06:45
trappist	swatgoss: java-package. it's in the multiverse repository	06:46
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swatgoss	phew	06:47
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Kennie	could anyone ban Nextgens_ for fake shit sending?	06:48
trappist	swamptu: that's not it, but you could save yourself some time and trouble by installing the sun-java5-jdk package	06:48
trappist	swamptu: unless you're on dialup or something	06:49
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main2	alt+space doesnt do anything here...	06:50
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main2	i cant get the katapult up :D	06:50
trappist	main2: need to have katapult installed and running	06:50
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trappist	Kennie: working on a kline for him	06:51
main2	trappist: its running	06:51
main2	ps -e \|grep katapult	06:51
main2	18696 ? 00:00:00 katapult	06:51
Kennie	ty trappist :)	06:51
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trappist	main2: maybe you have something else eating alt-space	06:51
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main2	that could be	06:51
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swatgoss	trappist jpkg working :p	06:53
trappist	swatgoss: good deal	06:54
swatgoss	:'( its beautifull ... my 1st .bin	06:54
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main2	trappist: i check all shortcut entries, but non of the occupies 'alt+space'	06:54
swatgoss	now i got all the power of java under linux !!! i'm the master of my smartphone ...	06:54
swatgoss	smat	06:55
swatgoss	smartphone -> univers	06:55
swatgoss	bah	06:55
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swatgoss	not the smartphone ... just the master of the universe	06:55
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XTorchedX	how do i say 'kubuntu'	06:56
arunkale	koo boon too	06:56
XTorchedX	that's good	06:57
XTorchedX	that's how i was saying it	06:57
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swatgoss	arunkale would have prefer Ka Oubountou	06:57
swatgoss	french inside :p	06:57
arunkale	???	06:58
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swatgoss	Kaooboontoo sounds better for me :p	06:58
arunkale	why would i prefer that?	06:58
swatgoss	sry	06:58
swatgoss	I would have prefered	06:58
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swatgoss	prefer ?	06:58
arunkale	:)	06:58
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swatgoss	bah doesn't matter	06:59
main2	tra	06:59
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main2	trappist: my server runs on display 1, think that it has to do something with it..	06:59
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swatgoss	is it possible to run 2 OS (like in virtualisation or something ...) on 2 differents screens, on the same video card (same PC)	07:00
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swatgoss	terribly difficult to do ?	07:00
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swatgoss		07:01
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AlexNicol	I have a problem with the Kubuntu GUI, can someone help?	07:02
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AlexNicol	Downloaded and installed Ubuntu Server as I only had the one disc. this installed OK and on a fresh install I can see the terminal without issue. as soon as I apt-get {insesrt option}-desktop, it installs OK, I reboot and then I see the splash screen. once this has loaded, I see a single white "-" in the top left of the screen and nothing else. I assume its graphics related because the system continues to load things.	07:03
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XTorchedX	did you check if all your hardware is supported AlexNicol?	07:04
AlexNicol	yes	07:05
XTorchedX	all sweet?	07:05
AlexNicol	Although I might need to doublecheck on the gfx card	07:05
XTorchedX	yeah, the gfx and mobo	07:05
AlexNicol	This system has had linux running on it before	07:05
trappist	AlexNicol: try hitting ctrl-alt-f7	07:05
AlexNicol	but I think that was redhat	07:05
trappist	AlexNicol: if that doesn't work, ctrl-alt-f1	07:05
AlexNicol	at the "-" screen?	07:05
trappist	yes	07:05
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AlexNicol	wait one	07:05
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trappist	AlexNicol: and, did you install dapper, or like edgy knot 3 or something?	07:05
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AlexNicol	err	07:06
AlexNicol	ubuntu-6.06.1-server-i386.iso	07:06
AlexNicol	is the download file	07:06
trappist	ok, that's dapper	07:06
trappist	AlexNicol: what video card?	07:07
AlexNicol	yeah	07:07
AlexNicol	Thought it was	07:07
AlexNicol	but the edgy knot bit confused me	07:07
karokub	bye	07:07
trappist	AlexNicol: edgy is the next release - not yet ready for general consumption, and what you described still happens a lot on it, but things should work nicely on dapper	07:07
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AlexNicol	ctrl + Alt + F1 / F7 does nothing	07:08
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AlexNicol	where is the most comprehensive hardware list	07:08
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klerfayt	can I report bugs related to flashplayer in launchpad?	07:10
[GuS]	klerfayt, flash player from Adobe?	07:10
luca_b	klerfayt: depends if they're packaging bugs, or actual program bugs, IMO	07:10
trappist	klerfayt: yep	07:10
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trappist	luca_b: it's valid to file a bug in any case	07:10
trappist	abugisabugisabug	07:10
luca_b	trappist: well, yes, I get your point	07:11
luca_b	trappist: at least if it can't be fixed it can be put in release notes or something	07:11
Mochito	whats up my friends?	07:11
klerfayt	trappist: how do I debug firefox freeze? (it happens with flashplayer)	07:11
Mochito	how are you?	07:11
trappist	luca_b: yeah, I wouldn't bother filing such a bug, but I've seen others like it and they don't get rejected, so it's apparently valid	07:11
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trappist	klerfayt: I don't have any knowledge of that. are you talking about the open source flashplayer or the adobe one, out of curiosity?	07:12
luca_b	oh, random question: anyone using XGL with Kubuntu and an ATI card?	07:12
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klerfayt	trappist: adobe	07:12
trappist	klerfayt: because there's an open bug already about the open source one causing freezes	07:12
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klerfayt	trappist: it could be related to alsa-oss (I configured firefox to use this sound instead of oss)	07:13
trappist	klerfayt: I think there's some info related to that on the RestrictedFormats wiki page	07:14
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klerfayt	trappist: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/27093 - there is no way to fix it; what if I complain to adobe? do they care? :)	07:18
trappist	klerfayt: you have to give adobe money even to get them to listen to a bug report. they kinda suck like that.	07:18
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AlexNicol	Trappist: Think its my gfx card thats causing issues, cos it works fine on on board	07:19
AlexNicol	is it therefore a lost cause, or can I just try and find some drivers for my gfx card?	07:19
trappist	AlexNicol: yes, that's the most likely problem. that's why I asked what video card you were using.	07:19
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horizon	can anyone tell me please the dvd download link of kubuntu?	07:20
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horizon	dvd amd64 iso for dapper drake??	07:21
klerfayt	trappist: heh I can reproduce that bug (27093)	07:21
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ubuntu_	hello.. anyone here please	07:22
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arunkale	yeah, i'm here	07:22
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ubuntu_	hi arunkale, you speak spanish or somebody here ?	07:23
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arunkale	no man	07:23
horizon	arunkale	07:23
bobesponja	hola ubuntu_	07:23
horizon	do you konow	07:23
trappist	ubuntu_: /join #kubuntu-es	07:23
Creedence	hey guys	07:23
horizon	the amd64 dvd iso link?	07:23
ubuntu_	ok thx a lot trappist	07:23
fildo	!vncserver	07:23
ubotu	vncserver: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.7-8ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 530 kB, installed size 1240 kB	07:23
bobesponja	ubuntu_: hay un chanel en espanol	07:23
AlexNicol	trappist - Ati website has linux drivers on it - would these work or are they already included in dapper?	07:24
trappist	AlexNicol: they're included - sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules	07:25
trappist	AlexNicol: then, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the fglrx driver	07:25
AlexNicol	so they dont come as standard, but they may still work?	07:25
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trappist	AlexNicol: oh, also install the xorg-driver-fglrx package	07:25
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trappist	AlexNicol: they're not standard because they're nonfree, but they work ok, for ati drivers :)	07:26
AlexNicol	aye	07:26
AlexNicol	trappist - couldnt find package linux-restricted-modules	07:28
luca_b	On the topic of ATI drivers, anyone knows if the latest release fixes the annoying terminal-X switch corruption issue?	07:28
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trappist	AlexNicol: oh sorry, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)	07:29
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trappist	luca_b: when I had that with nvidia, I just disabled framebuffer by saying vga=normal in my bootloader, and it was solved	07:30
luca_b	trappist: thought so	07:30
trappist	luca_b: of course that has other consequences, but it seems these proprietary framebuffer drivers kinda suck	07:30
luca_b	trappist: actually I can't get hibernation to work due to fglrx, as well	07:31
luca_b	trappist: but I have an X600, so going with fglrx is almost the only option	07:31
trappist	luca_b: I think there's an open bug or 5 on that one too	07:31
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luca_b	trappist: thanks, I'll go and check launchpad in a bit	07:32
trappist	luca_b: they gave me a laptop with an ati card at work, and I finally gave up and asked for a workstation instead	07:32
luca_b	trappist: this laptop was the only one I could afford, too bad it wasn't too linux-friendly	07:32
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Dr_Willis	i got fglrx going on my x200 based laptop	07:33
Dr_Willis	i was amazed it worked. :)	07:33
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luca_b	I'll ask also for another thing	07:34
luca_b	do you think it's a kernel issue if my / partition ALWAYS gets unmounted bad at reboot?	07:35
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luca_b	the problem is that the init scripts don't get it's unclean, as well	07:35
Creedence	q: how do you get rid of old kernal versions? is it as simple as uninstalling them?	07:35
luca_b	so I get horror errors	07:35
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luca_b	Creedence: yes, indeed	07:35
XTorchedX	do i want to run this adept updater thing?	07:35
Creedence	luca_b, so is there any risk in that?	07:35
Creedence	I don't wanna mess up the computer :)	07:36
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Creedence	it's working great!	07:36
luca_b	Creedence: I'd keep one spare kernel in case of failures of the main one, but for the rest, you can go ahead	07:36
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Creedence	luca_b, cool	07:37
Creedence	there are too many in my boot list :)	07:37
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trappist	say. if anybody here has decent computer graphics skills, I'll be your personal tech support slave for 1 hour a day for a week if you can make me a decent hackergotchi.	07:37
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carino35bs	Hello there. Anyone able to watch the last apple webcast with firefox?	07:38
luca_b	trappist: sadly, my graphics skills are way below average	07:38
XTorchedX	how are your stick figure skills?	07:39
trappist	luca_b: I feel you dog. my right brain is all shriveled and atrophied.	07:39
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zorglu_	trappist: not that i can fill the position, but what is a hackergotchi ?	07:39
Homer	I have the ATI driver installed	07:39
Homer	but I swear opengl acceleration isn't working	07:39
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zorglu_	Homer: do 'glxinfo \| grep render' to be sure of it	07:40
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Nik001	Hi there	07:41
trappist	zorglu_: http://planet.ubuntulinux.org/ <-- see the faces on the left	07:41
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trappist	zorglu_: those are hackergotchis	07:41
Nik001	anyone can help me wathcing apple webcast?	07:41
Homer	direct rendering: Yes	07:42
Homer	GLX_ATI_render_texture	07:42
Homer	OpenGL renderer string: MOBILITY RADEON X700 Generic	07:42
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luca_b	Homer: you have GL working	07:42
Homer	but any opengl app runs slooooow	07:42
zorglu_	trappist: ah ok :)	07:42
Homer	it has to be working in software mode	07:42
trappist	zorglu_: for future reference, if you \| grep rendering (not render) it'll cut down on the paste spam :)	07:42
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trappist	Homer: direct rendering means hardware rendering	07:43
arienh4	i have a kinda problem, because i think i'm using /dev/dsp for everything now, but i want arts to play music together with skype...	07:43
Nik001	I can't watch the last apple webcast. Does anyone have the same problem?	07:43
Homer	why would celestia run at like 4 FPS	07:43
zorglu_	trappist: noted :) it is a bug one line optim i wont forget :)	07:43
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arienh4	is it possible to activate it in some way?	07:43
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arienh4	?	07:45
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Nik001	any help^	07:46
Nik001	??	07:46
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arienh4	or me ^	07:46
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trappist	zorglu_: anyway that's why I ask - a hackergotchi is a prerequisite for getting your blog in planet ubuntu. I have one, but it sucks bad and I'm ashamed to call it a hackergotchi.	07:47
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Nik001	anyone able to help me with apple webcast?	07:48
arienh4	or me with arts	07:49
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two-face	Hi	07:49
zorglu_	trappist: put a black square, call yourself 'cave coder', and put 'in my cave there is no photon light, only the concentration to produce software for people' :)	07:50
zorglu_	trappist: you will be original and misterious :)	07:50
trappist	zorglu_: yeah I think I'd rather have a hackergotchi :) but thanks for the idea	07:51
zorglu_	pfff :)	07:51
two-face	I tried knot3 and it fails at boot time	07:51
trappist	two-face: /join #ubuntu+1	07:52
zorglu_	trappist: ok the people on ubuntu-art will do that trivially and may have some tech problem to trade :)	07:52
trappist	zorglu_: never thought of that!	07:52
two-face	but it is kubuntu, why am i at the wrong place?	07:52
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trappist	two-face: edgy is unstable and unsupported. #ubuntu+1 is for edgy help.	07:52
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two-face	trappist: alright thx	07:53
trappist	np	07:53
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zorglu_	trade cmake course against... stuff i know i could teach you ? (networking, security, crypto, p2p) no ?	07:57
zorglu_	btw this kind of thing could be nice	07:58
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zorglu_	a market place where we trade help like that, i offer that and would like that	07:58
luca_b	zorglu_: yeah, indeed	07:58
zorglu_	well very ontopic via kubuntu-support :)	07:58
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fleissigfiona	ive got a problem, whenever i leave my computer for more than an hour or so, it goes to the screensaver and then turns the monitor off, when i come back to it i can't wake it up atall with either mouse or keyboard and have to restart. any ideas?	08:04
zorglu_	yep some issue with acpi	08:04
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jan_	hello??	08:05
pepe	somebody say sth?	08:06
trappist	fleissigfiona: disable the screensaver? or maybe it's trying to hibernate or something and you need to tweak/disable your power management stuff	08:06
Creedence	Okay, so I have a VPN setup at home and I want to connect to it with Kubuntu. I found something called PPTP Client but I am not sure if I like it. Any other suggestions?	08:06
jan_	is this for kubuntu users with difficult questions??	08:06
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trappist	Creedence: if it's a microsoft vpn client you need some kind of pptp client	08:07
jan_	cause i've got one	08:07
trappist	jan_: yes	08:07
trombine	Hi everybody	08:07
Creedence	is ther any linux equivalent?	08:07
Creedence	is there a way to gain all netowrk resources with ssh without patching each port?	08:07
trombine	is someone can help me to install some soft please ,	08:07
trappist	Creedence: for a vpn server? sure, lots. allow me to recommend openvpn.	08:07
Creedence	Woohoo	08:07
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Creedence	k	08:07
Creedence	I have a Clarkconnect box	08:08
trombine	es-ce que quelqu'un pourrai m'aider isntaller qq programmes svp ?	08:08
Creedence	now I have to try and install it on that	08:08
trappist	I've read about clarkconnect but I forget what it's all about.	08:08
jan_	ook nederlanders hier??	08:08
trappist	trombine: #ubuntu-fr	08:08
trombine	thanks trappist see ya	08:08
luca_b	Creedence: OpenVPN rocks, it's the solution I use at work	08:08
trappist	jan_: #ubuntu-nl	08:08
Creedence	Clarkconnect is a linux (I beleive deb ditro based) firewall	08:08
Creedence	luca_b, brb I am going to look :)	08:09
luca_b	Creedence: if I recall, Clarkconnect is RPM-based	08:09
jan_	i want to know how i use my soundcard instead of my onboard soundchip	08:09
luca_b	(tried to use it in the past for my custom home-made router)	08:09
trappist	jan_: the easiest solution is to disable the onboard card in the BIOS	08:09
jan_	okay, bus i need the other one in wind*ws, it's a dual boot	08:09
trappist	jan_: I knew you'd say that :)	08:10
trappist	jan_: what does 'asoundconf list' say?	08:10
judibet	Tip : A firewall in graphic mode : sudo apt-get install guarddog	08:10
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jan_	Names of available sound cards:	08:10
jan_	V8237	08:10
jan_	CMI8738MC6	08:10
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trappist	jan_: try this: asoundconf set-default-card CMI8738MC6	08:11
trappist	jan_: I assume that V8237 is your onboard card	08:11
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Knifa	hay	08:11
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jan_	okay, i tried	08:11
Knifa	does the "saving language" bit on the installer usually take a long time? D:	08:12
jan_	thanx a lot	08:12
trappist	jan_: it worked?	08:12
jan_	trappist, you are my hero!!	08:12
trappist	woohoo!	08:12
trappist	jan_: the 'list' function is my patch to asoundconf - glad it worked!	08:12
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luca_b	trappist: never knew such a thing existed, you never stop learning with linux	08:12
trappist	luca_b: it didn't until recently	08:13
AlexNicol	trappist: Installed all the packages - and still have the same issue	08:13
AlexNicol	although this time its telling me the xserver is not correctly configured	08:13
arunkale	anyone here used JuK?	08:13
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trappist	AlexNicol: it won't use the new drivers until you sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and configure it to do so	08:13
AlexNicol	yeah	08:13
AlexNicol	did that	08:13
AlexNicol	chose the flgrx one	08:13
AlexNicol	and now its complaining	08:13
AlexNicol	is this a generic linux issue, or specific to ubuntu?	08:14
luca_b	AlexNicol: you may want to try using ATI's own tool, try using aticonfig --initial	08:14
trappist	AlexNicol: I'm always encouraged to see a different problem	08:14
AlexNicol	I like to test people :)	08:14
trappist	AlexNicol: ati's linux drivers kinda suck, but I can't really answer that question until we track down the cause	08:14
AlexNicol	lol	08:14
judibet	I left !	08:15
luca_b	trappist: they suck also on windows, actually	08:15
AlexNicol	trying luca_b's idea now	08:15
judibet	See you all!	08:15
trappist	luca_b: true that	08:15
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AlexNicol	Luca_b, just type that in as a command?	08:15
trappist	AlexNicol: if that doesn't work, next step is to examine /var/log/Xorg.0.log	08:15
luca_b	AlexNicol: one sec, checking if it's there by default	08:15
AlexNicol	right	08:15
AlexNicol	log open	08:15
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AlexNicol	says - from far away	08:16
trappist	AlexNicol: look for lines beginning with (EE)	08:16
luca_b	AlexNicol: should be there, it's in the xorg-driver-fglrx package that you should have	08:16
AlexNicol	EE - No Devices Detected	08:16
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luca_b	AlexNicol: ok, you may want to try aticonfig	08:16
trappist	AlexNicol: well that's no good :) if you say lspci, do you see your card?	08:16
AlexNicol	WW - No matching device section for instance (BUSID PCT:1:10:0) found	08:17
luca_b	AlexNicol: been there, saw that error	08:17
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trappist	that busid doesn't look right	08:17
luca_b	brb, dinnner	08:17
trappist	but I can't be sure about that	08:17
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trappist	AlexNicol: is this a vga card, or pci express? or ye olde pci? or onboard?	08:17
AlexNicol	trappist	08:17
AlexNicol	hang on	08:17
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scott_w\|lappy	yo, i got a problem using configure scripts	08:18
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scott_w\|lappy	i've already installed gcc	08:18
AlexNicol	0000:01:0a.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Fac	08:18
AlexNicol	ffs	08:18
trappist	scott_w\|lappy: sudo apt-get install build-essential	08:18
AlexNicol	[Radeon 7000/VE]	08:19
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scott_w\|lappy	trappist: i'll see if that works, thanks	08:19
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AlexNicol	so put in that bus ide?	08:19
trappist	AlexNicol: ok so it's vga and it is detected. I think your problem is likely that pci id. did you try luca_b's suggestion yet?	08:19
AlexNicol	no	08:19
trappist	AlexNicol: I'm not sure that translates... lemme check...	08:19
AlexNicol	was waiting on a command	08:19
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trappist	AlexNicol: no, it's not quite the same syntax, apparently, and I don't know how to translate it	08:20
trappist	AlexNicol: my lspci says 01:00.0 and my xorg.conf says PCI:1:0:0	08:20
trappist	so I don't know what your 0a should look like	08:20
AlexNicol	hmm	08:21
AlexNicol	Luca_b's suggestion returned...	08:21
AlexNicol	Found fglrx primary device section	08:21
AlexNicol	Noting to do, terminating	08:21
trappist	you could try commenting out the Device section to give it something to do	08:22
Knifa	my install is stuck at Select and Install Software, Configuring language-pack-en-base at 1%	08:22
Knifa	does it usually take a while :[	08:22
Knifa	the HDD light is going atleast	08:22
trappist	I think there's a pretty good chance the problem is in that BusID parameter, but I can't tell you what it should be	08:23
trappist	Knifa: I'd say give it some time	08:23
AlexNicol	trappist - aticonfig --initial --force returns.....	08:23
AlexNicol	Unitialised file found, configuring.	08:23
Knifa	kay	08:23
trappist	oh, --force. good one.	08:23
AlexNicol	Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf	08:24
AlexNicol	Saved back-up to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.fglrx.0	08:24
AlexNicol	aticonfig: Writing to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' failed. Bad File Descriptor	08:24
Knifa	trappist: it's been at it for a good 5 minutes now	08:25
trappist	AlexNicol: you ran it with sudo, right?	08:25
Knifa	although it took the same amount of time on saving language	08:25
AlexNicol	errrr...	08:25
AlexNicol	yes :$	08:25
Knifa	and it's a p3 500mhz with 64mb of ram <_<	08:25
trappist	Knifa: if you've got hard drive activity, it's still working	08:25
Knifa	kay	08:25
scott_w\|lappy	trappist: yeah, it worked, cheers ^_^	08:25
trappist	Knifa: ah. yeah, expect it to take a while :) it should run fine, but installation will be slow	08:25
trappist	scott_w\|lappy: what worked?	08:25
AlexNicol	the essential-build thing	08:26
scott_w\|lappy	out of curiosity: why doesn't kubuntu install development tools by default?	08:26
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AlexNicol	scott - thats the same question I asked when I first came accross it	08:26
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AlexNicol	Trappist - Sudo ati(etc) worked I think	08:26
trappist	AlexNicol: ossum	08:26
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AlexNicol	Pardon?	08:27
trappist	scott_w\|lappy: your average user doesn't usually need them. pretty much everything you'd ever want is available in the repos.	08:27
scott_w\|lappy	oh, and does anyone know when gcc 4.1 is going in the repositories?	08:27
trappist	AlexNicol: means awesome :)	08:27
AlexNicol	ahh	08:27
trappist	scott_w\|lappy: when edgy is released	08:27
scott_w\|lappy	ok	08:27
Knifa	kay, thanks trappist :D	08:27
AlexNicol	not up on abbreviations	08:27
AlexNicol	Right - whats the command to boot into GUI?	08:27
scott_w\|lappy	but still, you average user may find themselves needing to compile source code	08:28
trappist	AlexNicol: it's my own invention. it's phoenetically identical.	08:28
scott_w\|lappy	a guy i know had to to get his modem working	08:28
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trappist	AlexNicol: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop, then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start	08:28
AlexNicol	yeah, it made sense when I re-read it	08:28
AlexNicol	using xubuntu	08:28
AlexNicol	is it xdm?	08:28
trappist	AlexNicol: whatever your *dm is	08:29
lebifteksauvage	Hello ;)	08:29
trappist	AlexNicol: if you pick the wrong one, it'll just tell you	08:29
AlexNicol	command not found	08:29
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AlexNicol	is there a way of finding it?	08:29
trappist	scott_w\|lappy: a long and interesting discussion over whether to install them by default happened on the ubuntu-devel mailing list, and that very argument was brought up more than once in favor of doing it.	08:30
trappist	AlexNicol: ls /etc/init.d/*dm	08:30
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trappist	AlexNicol: cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager	08:30
AlexNicol	I cheated and rebooted :P	08:30
trappist	that'll work :)	08:30
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AlexNicol	computer says	08:31
AlexNicol	no	08:31
AlexNicol	failed to start x server	08:32
AlexNicol	no devices detected	08:32
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AlexNicol	no screens found	08:32
trappist	suck	08:32
trappist	AlexNicol: what kind of (EE)s do you have in /var/log/Xorg.0.log now?	08:33
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trappist	and, what's the BusID option in your new Device stanza?	08:33
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trappist	bbiaf - ima go grab a burger	08:34
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AlexNicol	EE - No screens found	08:35
AlexNicol	and where do I look for the other bit?	08:35
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Knifa	trappist: still going :(	08:37
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AlexNicol	knifa - Still on 1%?	08:38
Knifa	yeah	08:39
Knifa	the hard drive is still going though	08:39
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AlexNicol	as in going like mad or ticking over?	08:39
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Knifa	actually it doesn't sound like it's doing much	08:40
Knifa	the light is on though	08:40
Knifa	mabye it's dead too :/	08:40
luluza	Hi	08:40
Knifa	it's making generic hard drive noises thoug	08:40
AlexNicol	my first thought would be to restart it and run the MEMTEST thing on the CD	08:40
AlexNicol	have you got something like Eurosofts PC Check	08:41
AlexNicol	or some other HDD checking tool?	08:41
Knifa	nah it's not worth it	08:41
Knifa	it's a spare computer	08:41
Knifa	i was only going to install it on it to mess around	08:41
luluza	anybody help me???	08:41
AlexNicol	its always worth it for that	08:41
[GuS]	HD regenerator AlexNicol	08:41
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AlexNicol	luluza - whats the problem	08:41
AlexNicol	Gus - Is that a freebie?	08:41
luluza	I can't configuret the micro	08:42
[GuS]	dont think so	08:42
[GuS]	but is very good	08:42
Knifa	i don't have any hdd checking stuffs	08:42
AlexNicol	cool - its one I've not come across, but I've only really used manufacturer stuff for warranty repairs	08:42
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AlexNicol	i.e. SEAGATEs own for seagate hdd's etc	08:42
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AlexNicol	Knifa - Just a thought.... ermmmm... Prolly just try installing it afresh	08:43
AlexNicol	are you sure the cd is good?	08:43
luluza	?	08:43
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Knifa	actually	08:43
Knifa	it is going bad	08:43
Knifa	mad	08:43
Knifa	i just couldn't hear it	08:43
Knifa	:p	08:43
arunkale	heh	08:43
AlexNicol	lol	08:44
AlexNicol	Luluza - can you be more specifivc	08:44
Knifa	i blame it's lack of ram	08:44
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AlexNicol	what cant you configure?	08:44
arunkale	Knifa, when you insert the cd, there's an option to check the integrity of the cd or something	08:44
AlexNicol	How much Ram has it got?	08:44
luluza	I can'y use the microphone	08:44
AlexNicol	arunkale - is it still part of the install process?	08:44
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Knifa	64mb :\|	08:45
AlexNicol	Arunkale - No, its got its own option now hasnt it	08:45
AlexNicol	Dude	08:45
AlexNicol	my PHONE has more memory than that LD	08:45
AlexNicol	:D	08:45
Knifa	XD	08:45
arunkale	AlexNicol: I installed Dapper Drake recently, and when you insert the cd, it gives you a few options	08:45
AlexNicol	yeah I just remembered	08:45
arunkale	one of those options is to check the integrity of the cd	08:45
AlexNicol	strange though it sounds	08:45
AlexNicol	another is to run Memtest	08:45
arunkale	isn't 64mb kinda less	08:45
cango	help	08:45
cango	help	08:45
cango	help	08:45
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AlexNicol	and Knifa - I would prolly suggest that memory would be an issue	08:46
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Knifa	aye	08:46
cango	i can't listen my mp3s	08:46
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AlexNicol	is there not a minimum listed?	08:46
arunkale	cango: could you listen to them earlier?	08:46
Knifa	actually it has 86mb	08:46
cango	no	08:46
Knifa	but that's still crap	08:46
Knifa	D:	08:46
AlexNicol	Cango - see ubuntuguide.org and follow through the information about installing multimedia codecs	08:46
arunkale	!mp3	08:46
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	08:46
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cango	thanks	08:46
arunkale	cango check out those links ^^	08:46
AlexNicol	arunkale - smart arse :P	08:46
arunkale	hahahah	08:46
AlexNicol	Is there a list of those kinda commands for future reference?	08:47
arunkale	what commands?	08:47
AlexNicol	!ones	08:47
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about ones - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	08:47
luluza	I can't lisent to mp3 with Amarok	08:47
arunkale	ones?	08:47
AlexNicol	oooohhh its a search	08:47
cango	i installed kubuntus 1 hour ago	08:47
AlexNicol	cango http://ubuntuguide.org	08:48
scott_w\|lappy	cango: same here :)	08:48
arunkale	cango, check those links, it will tell you everything you need to know. start with this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats	08:48
AlexNicol	start from the top, and miss out the bits you DONT want	08:48
cango	but i say	08:48
arunkale	?	08:48
scott_w\|lappy	well that explains why lilo isn't around	08:49
scott_w\|lappy	RIP dude	08:49
cango	this is my first time linux	08:49
AlexNicol	innit	08:49
AlexNicol	Cango - You've made a good choice	08:49
cango	and i can't install codecs and programs	08:49
AlexNicol	http://ubuntuguide.org gives you step my step instructions	08:49
AlexNicol	including the use of SUDO	08:49
arunkale	cango - just copy paste those commands	08:49
cango	i don't know that i said	08:49
AlexNicol	which will become your new best friend :)	08:49
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AlexNicol	Cango - You from a Windows Background?	08:50
cango	yes	08:50
luluza	?	08:51
arunkale	https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats <- check this out cango	08:51
arunkale	it's really simple, dont worry	08:51
cango	ok	08:51
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luluza	anybody speak spanish?????	08:52
cango	codes are very hard to me	08:52
arunkale	!es	08:52
ubotu	Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.	08:52
AlexNicol	Cango - OK	08:52
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arunkale	cango: just copy paste the codes in Konsole	08:52
AlexNicol	You know how you have different levels of user in Windows	08:52
luluza	ok...I leave	08:52
arunkale	AlexNicol: is there any way he can install codecs using Adept?	08:52
luluza	!es	08:53
AlexNicol	erm erm	08:53
ubotu	Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.	08:53
arunkale	cango: wait, i have something that will make it really easy for you	08:53
cango	how can i enter console alt + F2 or others...	08:53
AlexNicol	I dont know, because I come from DOS, so I prefer consoles	08:53
cango	i wait	08:53
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luluza	thanks..for	08:53
AlexNicol	are you at the linux desktop?	08:53
cango	yeah	08:53
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AlexNicol	Luluza - Sorry, I dont know about microphones, wait for trappist to return	08:53
AlexNicol	ok	08:53
trappist	back	08:54
AlexNicol	APPLICATIONS - SYSTEM - TERMINAL	08:54
trappist	but I don't know about mics either	08:54
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arunkale	cango: check this out -- http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/	08:54
AlexNicol	lol you made me jump :)	08:54
AlexNicol	oh yeah	08:54
arunkale	this will make it really easy for you	08:54
AlexNicol	easyubuntu	08:54
Homer	amaroK is hot	08:55
arunkale	cango: you there?	08:55
arunkale	Homer: Yes it is :D	08:55
MasterEvilAce	my sound is REALLY glitchy, and a bit staticy at times. Like i can't play two sound streams at once, or two sounds really close together (like GAIM receiving 2 IMs at the same time)	08:55
mattikoo	I have Kubuntu Dapper installed. I have installed the NVidia's newest driver for it. Dapper freezes many often, but Windows XP don't freeze with same hardware. I have tried glx driver for ubuntu, too. And Dapper freeze it, too.	08:55
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cango	yeah	08:56
cango	i m here	08:56
cango	arunkale	08:56
arunkale	did you see that link cango?	08:56
trappist	MasterEvilAce: ps aux \| grep arts	08:56
arunkale	http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/	08:56
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cango	yes	08:56
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bledy	hhhi	08:57
cango	what must	08:57
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arunkale	cango: download and install that script, it will set up everything for you	08:57
cango	what can i do	08:57
bledy	can i ask some one for how to install installing mozilla?	08:57
arunkale	???	08:58
MasterEvilAce	trappist: okay	08:58
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bledy	can i ask some one for how to install mozilla?	08:58
trappist	MasterEvilAce: that won't fix anything. I just want to know what it says.	08:58
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heiner	is there a way to make the grub-boot-this-now feature of kdm available in dapper?	08:58
MasterEvilAce	1000 4342 0.0 1.9 39108 4908 ? S Sep21 0:14 /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -d -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f	08:58
MasterEvilAce	1000 13885 0.0 0.2 2804 748 pts/5 R+ 14:57 0:00 grep arts	08:58
mattikoo	Do I send bug report to NVidia or Ubuntu-Community?	08:58
bledy	i'm a beginner on linux	08:58
arunkale	cango: http://tinyurl.com/gwrdf <- click this, it will download the package on your computer, and then you can double click it to install all the necessary codecs, etc	08:58
arunkale	bledy: you want to install firefox?	08:59
bledy	so i don't know any thing	08:59
trappist	MasterEvilAce: it's the job of artsd to do your sound mixing so you can play multiple sounds at once. it's running, but apparently kde isn't using it. or maybe it's just that gaim doesn't know how to use it, what with it not being a kde app and all.	08:59
trappist	mattikoo: http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu	08:59
inam	!firefox	08:59
ubotu	firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins	08:59
MasterEvilAce	trappist: i'm not sure it's only Gaim, but Gaim is the most annoying. amarok gets glitchy sometimes as well	08:59
bledy	yes i want	08:59
bledy	arunkale thnx	09:00
P4ck3t	do i need to have w32codecs installed to play mp3 files????	09:00
inam	bledy... your installation already has a browser	09:00
bledy	y	09:00
mattikoo	trappist: Thank you	09:00
trappist	MasterEvilAce: ah, well, amarok is a kde app, so that definitely shouldn't happen. I don't recall where it is, but try running kcontrol and finding where to config your audio, and make sure it's set up to use a sound daemon (arts)	09:00
bledy	is konqueror	09:00
trappist	P4ck3t: no	09:00
MasterEvilAce	trappist: roger that	09:00
P4ck3t	trappist: then why w32codecs is necessary???	09:01
trappist	P4ck3t: it contains codecs that are only available for windows, like wmv9	09:01
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inam	!firefox > bledy	09:01
arunkale	P4ck3t: to play windows media files and stuff	09:01
bledy	ca you write me in privat becouse here i'll be confused and dont lnoww what to do	09:01
bledy	thanx	09:01
bledy	y inam	09:01
P4ck3t	trappist: okie..	09:01
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arunkale	okay, people	09:02
arunkale	i'm going to sleep now	09:02
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heiner	so, is there a way to make the grub-boot-this-now feature of kdm available in dapper?	09:02
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inam	bledy, which version of kubuntu are you using?	09:03
heiner	cause it doesnt work for me right now...	09:03
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Knifa	still 1% -_-	09:03
bledy	inam i dont know	09:03
arunkale	cango: are you downloading/running that package?	09:03
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arunkale	ok 'night people	09:05
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bledy	ok night arunkale thnx	09:06
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inam	bledy, can you click k-menu -> system -> adept	09:06
goku	this blows kopete has a bug	09:07
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bledy	ook inam	09:09
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bledy	than inam?	09:09
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inam	bledy, in the search box, type "firefox" and click enter	09:11
draik	Anyone here know the name of the app that lets you read Linux partitions on NTFS?	09:11
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heiner	draik: mount	09:11
draik	heiner, that's the name of the app?	09:11
heiner	forget it, im an idiot	09:12
DaSkreech	draik: Can you explain what you mean?	09:12
inam	draik: you are looking for a win32 app	09:12
bledy	ok inam	09:12
draik	win32 app, yes	09:12
coreymon77	draik: ive used captain nemo	09:12
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draik	coreymon77, I will look that up right now, thank you	09:12
heiner	exit	09:12
inam	bledy, do you see an entry title "firefox"... is the staus of that "installed" or "not installed"	09:12
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bledy	not installed	09:14
bledy	inam	09:14
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inam	bledy, you can right click on firefox and choose "request install". after that you have to click on "apply" on the toolbar	09:15
bledy	i did right click -> install -> apply	09:15
bledy	and is installing now	09:15
inam	bledy, great :) have fun using firefox	09:15
bledy	thanks	09:15
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bledy	thanx inam	09:15
bledy	have a nice night	09:15
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inam	bledy, you can use adept to search for and install any application that you might want	09:16
coreymon77	couldnt he just type apt-get install mozilla-firefox into a terminal	09:16
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bledy	inam, thnx very much for your hekp	09:16
bledy	for ur help	09:17
bledy	thnx	09:17
jessica_	??	09:17
jessica_	?	09:17
inam	coreymon77, he could have... but im kinda to new to linux myself :)	09:17
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Knifa	good news!	09:17
Knifa	the language-base-en thing finished	09:17
Knifa	-_-	09:17
Knifa	after about an hour	09:17
jessica_	i dont understood	09:18
jessica_	;)	09:18
Knifa	you what now	09:18
jessica_	ich bin deutsch...	09:18
jessica_	lol	09:18
Knifa	ah	09:18
jessica_	und du?	09:18
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Knifa	i am scottish.	09:19
jessica_	but you can speak german...	09:19
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ryanakca	What directories do I delete to return to default kubuntu settings. $HOME/.kde/share/what?	09:19
zorglu_	!de	09:19
socres	hi @ all	09:19
ubotu	Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de	09:19
zorglu_	ok i think i did this one without reading :)	09:20
inam	!ta	09:20
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about ta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	09:20
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inam	never mind ubotu :)	09:20
Kiongku	lol..	09:20
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jessica_	Knifa?	09:21
Knifa	hello	09:21
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Knifa	oh	09:21
Knifa	i can't	09:21
Knifa	but	09:21
Knifa	i understand what that means	09:21
jessica_	ah...	09:21
ryanakca	What directories do I delete to return to default kubuntu settings. $HOME/.kde/share/what?	09:21
jessica_	wie alt bist denn du?	09:21
Knifa	i dunno any more than what you said the first time :(	09:21
ryanakca	jessica_: pleawe see what ubotu said	09:21
Knifa	yeh.	09:22
jessica_	???	09:22
ryanakca	!de	09:22
ubotu	Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de	09:22
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inam	people... i need help with choosing the version of gcc to download... im just playing around with the code for "cal" and "banner"... now i need to compile it... so...	09:23
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ryanakca	inam: gcc is in the repositories	09:23
jessica_	i dont no what you have said...	09:23
inam	ryanakca, but which verison of gcc should i use... 3.3 or 4.0 ?	09:23
Kiongku	inam.. read the manual with the cal or banner	09:24
Kiongku	it should say what it requires	09:24
ryanakca	jessica_: this is the channel for english help. please join #kubuntu-(twoletterlanguagecode) for help in that language.	09:24
DaSkreech	!de > jessica_	09:24
ryanakca	jessica_: example: #kubuntu-fr for help in french, #kubuntu-it for italian help, etc	09:24
Kiongku	there is no help for mauritius :P	09:25
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ryanakca	inam: install both	09:25
ryanakca	inam: but I'd go with 4.0	09:25
Kiongku	ryanakca: its a radical solution..	09:25
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ryanakca	Kiongku: I have no clue about the fine details between the two... and I believe that I currently have both installed... so... :D	09:26
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cango	please	09:26
luca_b	hmmm, longer dinner and associated talks than I expected	09:26
ryanakca	What directories do I delete to return to default kubuntu settings. $HOME/.kde/share/what?	09:27
cango	the mp3s opened and closed	09:27
cango	i can't listen	09:27
luca_b	ryanakca: .kde as whole	09:27
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Kiongku	cango	09:27
Kiongku	!mp3	09:27
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	09:27
Kiongku	hmm never tried delete everything in .kde.. i wonder	09:28
TheGateKeeper	cango: if you are using the xine engine then install libxine-extracodecs	09:28
cango	where can i find	09:29
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fdoving	Kiongku: you could just try to move it away. in case you want it back :)	09:29
Kiongku	in repositories.	09:29
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jessica_	ist hier jemand deutschsprachig?	09:29
fdoving	!de	09:29
ubotu	Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de	09:29
Kiongku	fdoving: hmm indeed.. but my distro running very well for now. :) dunt need it	09:29
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fdoving	Kiongku: ok, just wanted you to know that moving .kde might be a better solution, than deleting. :)	09:30
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scion	hello all	09:31
Kiongku	fdoving: yeah just in case	09:31
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Kiongku	scion: hmm u make me think of a game..	09:31
scion	i got a package problem, is there anyone who can spare a few min?	09:32
scion	Kiongku: what game is this?	09:32
TheGateKeeper	scion: so what is the problem?	09:33
inam	jessica_, bitte schreiben Sie, '/join #kubuntu-de '	09:33
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scion	TheGateKeeper: cannot load Disks and Filesystems from the control panel	09:33
scion	TheGateKeeper: since my last update	09:34
scion	possible reasons - orphaned control module or old third party modules	09:34
jessica_	,/join #kubuntu-de	09:35
scion	wtf? it worked fine yesterday when i was trying to fix my usb hdd problem!	09:35
scion	one problem swiftly followed by another!	09:35
jessica_	i dont understand this here...	09:36
scion	jessica_: what do you not understand?	09:36
inam	jessica_, bitte schreiben Sie, /join #kubuntu-de	09:36
P4ck3t	i dont have resolv.conf in /etc .......... how i will get it?? do i have to install bind?	09:36
ryanakca	jessica_: this place is for help in ENGLISH. if you want help in GERMAN, please type: /join #kubuntu-de	09:37
ryanakca	jessica_: click on #kubuntu-de	09:37
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scion	that the german channel!!	09:37
jessica_	thx	09:38
DaSkreech	ryanakca: can you ascertain someone's client?	09:38
P4ck3t	i dont have resolv.conf in /etc .......... how i will get it?? do i have to install bind?	09:39
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inam	she finally went to the german channel... i went there to see if she reached fine and she did :)	09:39
Kiongku	scion: battlzone 2	09:39
scion	de = Deutschland	09:40
scion	Kiongku: classic game	09:40
scion	TheGateKeeper: any joy	09:40
TheGateKeeper	scion: don't know what to suggest really	09:40
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ryanakca	DaSkreech: no, but I'm judging that by the fact that they have a hard time understanding how to use IRC and that they're using Kubuntu, that Konversation is their client... educated guess	09:41
TheGateKeeper	scion: I know they messed up the flash plugin for firefox	09:41
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TheGateKeeper	scion: has automount just stop working?	09:42
fdoving	P4ck3t: create one.	09:42
scion	TheGateKeeper: this is so annoying	09:43
scion	TheGateKeeper: i really don't want to do a fresh install	09:43
TheGateKeeper	scion: can you mount manually using the cli?	09:43
fdoving	what automounting? usb?	09:44
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karim_	hello pretty linux gurls out there	09:54
healingdread	indeed...deepest sympathy and so on. anyone care to bring me up to speed?	09:54
Tm_T	karim_: talking to me?	09:54
karim_	if ur a girl?	09:54
healingdread	you know lilo	09:54
healingdread	not a girl in this lifetime	09:55
karim_	lol	09:55
DaSkreech	healingdread: Check freenode's website	09:55
Tm_T	karim_: no, I'm not girl nor pretty, so stop that	09:55
DaSkreech	!women	09:55
ubotu	The women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.	09:55
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fdoving	healingdread: http://freenode.net/news.shtml	09:55
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healingdread	thanks brb	09:56
healingdread	once again symathy to all who knew him.	09:57
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DaSkreech	healingdread: Yeah it's horrible news	09:57
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omega	Hello.	09:58
healingdread	obviously a popular guy. we must remember to celebrate the lives of those who leave us	09:58
healingdread	and remember the lessons they teach	09:58
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omega	I have a SATA drive and an IDE one. Windows is installed on the SATA one and the IDE is empty. Can I install kubuntu on the IDE one and still dual boot properly? No problems with booting SATA drives or anything?	09:59
healingdread	the name is unfamiliar to me. i just installed linux this week	09:59
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healingdread	dont know. i have 2 ide. one on each for now	10:00
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healingdread	no obvious problems there tho	10:00
ge2x	could som1 plz help me i installed the nvidia-glx drivers but sometimes my computer just freezes and the only thing left for me to do is push reset	10:00
omega	used to be like that for me too, but I bought some new hardware, so I'm not sure.	10:00
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healingdread	whats the differencew betwwen ide and sata?	10:01
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cango_	help i can't play my mp3's	10:02
ge2x	i believe that linux isn't meant to be a desktop but just a server	10:03
scion	healingdread: ide is slower then SATA and SATA uses different power molex and connector	10:03
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scion	healingdread: SATA does not use a standard ribbon IDE cable	10:03
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luca_b	ge2x: I disagree as I use it for work, on non-programming related tasks	10:04
inam	!easyubuntu	10:04
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ubotu	EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.	10:04
inam	!easyubuntu > cango_	10:04
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healingdread	so sata would require a different motherboard?	10:05
scion	cango_: what media player are you using?	10:05
cango_	mp3s	10:05
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cango_	amarok	10:05
scion	healingdread: the connectors come on most new motherboards	10:05
TheGateKeeper	scion: I am told that you can use: 'mountconfig' program	10:06
scion	healingdread: however you can buy a PCI adapter card	10:06
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inam	cango_, check out http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html	10:06
scion	TheGateKeeper: thanks for the advice, i will investigate	10:06
Creedence	hey dudes, anyone having problems installing flashplayer-nonfree	10:06
cango_	what can i do	10:06
TheGateKeeper	scion: you using edge?	10:06
cango_	i am rookie for linux	10:06
inam	!restricted formats	10:07
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	10:07
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scion	cango_: i am currently setting up this now myself... bear with me	10:07
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scion	TheGateKeeper: Dapper Drake	10:07
TheGateKeeper	Creedence: yes hang on...	10:07
Creedence	TheGateKeeper, gotta restart X, brb :)	10:07
inam	cango_, kubuntu does not support mp3 out of the box. please read the links on RestrictedFormats	10:07
ep	In Firefox, I can select File \| New Window and a new instance of Firefox will pop up quickly. However, If I do the same thing from the K-Menu or from the icon on the panel, I get a busy-cursor for a minute or so, eventually failing. Why the difference? The command on the menu is "firefox %u"	10:08
healingdread	thanks scion	10:08
healingdread	maybe one day	10:08
cango_	now i must converse mp3 to ogg	10:08
inam	cango_, if you still want to install mp3 codecs, please go to http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html and run the four commands	10:08
cango_	didn'T it	10:08
DaSkreech	can I refresh a users login?	10:09
DaSkreech	set it all back to default?	10:09
scion	DaSkreech: easier making a new user	10:09
healingdread	scion. ok. on that topic...	10:09
healingdread	how would i add a user to this os	10:10
healingdread	its not obvious to me	10:10
DaSkreech	scion: So back up the old user and recreate it?	10:10
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cango_	how to how to how to	10:11
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healingdread	only way to learn my friend	10:11
cango_	i don't listen my mp3 %	10:11
cango_	& midis	10:11
scion	DaSkreech: create new user and with sudo copy from old user folder into new user folder... then delete old user folder from your /home/	10:12
ep	Also, If I can launch new windows quickly in a terminal by just typing 'firefox'... I think I'll try editing k-menu and just ditching the '%u' in the command field	10:12
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DaSkreech	cango_: did you install libxine-extracodecs?	10:12
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cango_	i don't know	10:12
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DaSkreech	scion: huh?	10:12
jmichaelx	has there been any fix for the faulty flash-plugin update from a few days to go?	10:12
Creedence	TheGreatOne	10:12
Creedence	sorry I am back	10:12
DaSkreech	scion: I want a clean user with the same name	10:12
cango_	i am a new yuser for linux	10:12
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healingdread	cango me also. installed this week	10:13
scion	DaSkreech: Then the backup option, then delete then create is what you need to do	10:13
healingdread	welcome i think	10:13
inam	cango_, can you open konsole ?	10:13
healingdread	glad to be aboard i must say	10:13
ge2x	cango_ well i recommend u to go back to windows or any other operating system cause kubuntu is UNSTABLE for me	10:13
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Creedence	I guess he left	10:13
cango_	how can i open console	10:13
Creedence	anyone else having problems installing flashplayer-nonfree?	10:13
MasterEvilAce	these were kept-back in upgrading.... linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic	10:13
MasterEvilAce	how can i find out why?	10:13
DaSkreech	scion: backup option being an actual --backup to some command or the copy thing you said above :)	10:14
inam	cango_, go to k-menu -> system -> konsole	10:14
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ge2x	when i enable nvidia drivers my computer keeps crashing and then the only thingi can do is to push reset cause it wont listen to anything else	10:15
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ge2x	now where is your so called stable linux now?	10:15
MasterEvilAce	ge2x: don't blame linux for other package's problems :P	10:15
scion	DaSkreech: just copy existing files into a temp directory using sudo	10:15
MasterEvilAce	ge2x: but how is it "crashing" ?? pure black screen, nothing else, at a certain point?	10:16
ge2x	oh so its nvidias fault is it? then why do i need an os that doesnt have the most important drivers	10:16
ep	ge2x linux didn't crash, it's stable	10:16
healingdread	ge2x i have a thing called kaffeine which seems to play dvd etc or am i missing your problem?	10:16
ge2x	it just freezes	10:16
ge2x	the screen just freezes	10:16
ep	linux didn't freeze	10:17
ge2x	and then nothing works: num lock wont even turn off	10:17
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ge2x	i press ctrl+alt+backspace the screen goes black and when i press another key nothing happens	10:18
ge2x	ep ok ok smart guy linux didnt freeze kubuntu or kde did	10:18
MasterEvilAce	How can i find out WHY packages were kept-back from upgrading?	10:19
scion	cango_: console is in start>system>konsole	10:19
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ge2x	for me at least windows is much stable: at least the main drivers work	10:20
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Creedence	ge2x, I can understand you being frustrated that you can't get things exactly as you want them, you have to admit that out of the box it ran really smoothly didn't it?	10:21
scion	ge2x: bad driver!	10:21
fdoving	MasterEvilAce: apt-get -s install 'packagenames'	10:22
ge2x	scion but i installed from synaptis	10:22
fdoving	MasterEvilAce: that -s is for 'simulate'	10:22
Creedence	ge2x, can I ask why exactly you want to run the new NVidia drivers? Were you trying to do something that you weren't able to without them?	10:23
scion	ge2x: exactly thats the problem	10:23
ge2x	i am trying to play quake3	10:23
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Creedence	ge2x, ahhh.	10:23
scion	ahh i got that running, and castle wolfenstein	10:23
MasterEvilAce	linux-headers-generic: Depends: linux-headers-2.6.17-9-generic but it is not installable............ how in the WORLD are these packages trying to install headers that aren't on the REPO, yet??? 2.6.17-8 is the newest	10:24
scion	ge2x: what card do you have?? ati?	10:24
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Creedence	ge2x, what can do you have?	10:24
ge2x	nvidia ti4200	10:24
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ge2x	scion do u think im stupid - trying to install nvidia drivers on an ati card?	10:25
scion	cango_: in adept search for libxine-extracodecs, just got mp3 setup there	10:25
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Creedence	ge2x, I think you should try the more up to date ones from Nvidia.com. If I remember right your card is pretty new and Nvidia has instructions how to install.	10:26
scion	ge2x: no, i asked a basic/standard question	10:26
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MasterEvilAce	Is it recommended FrameBuffer be on or off?	10:26
Creedence	ge2x: I think they are here - http://www.nvidia.com/page/partner_certified_drivers.html	10:26
scion	ge2x: its rude to ask for help and then come out with comments like that	10:26
ge2x	ok ok im sorry im just very upset	10:27
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Creedence	ge2x, please understand if you aren't used to linux then it will take some time. Of and on I played around with Linux for a couple of years until I made the 'switch'	10:28
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ge2x	i also tried to install those drivers from nvidia.com but then the konsole told me that i should shutdown the x server to install or somethin	10:28
Creedence	ge2x, if you have more time it might be quicker for you	10:28
Creedence	ge2x, okay... I don't know how but I think if you ask here some would help you do that.	10:29
ge2x	ok if i tell u what errors the installation spits out will u help me?	10:29
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ge2x	You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing.	10:30
ge2x	could som1 plz help me what should i do now?	10:30
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scion	ge2x: all ya gotta do is print off the docs, quit x server then follow the docs	10:31
Creedence	ge2x, it looks like you are installing from within konsole	10:31
ge2x	yep	10:31
ge2x	where do i get the docs?	10:31
Creedence	scion, how do you quit X without shutting down? I can't rememnber	10:32
scion	ge2x: did you happen to come accross a .run file	10:32
scion	Creedence: i think it is stop x	10:32
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Creedence	ge2x, look here http://www.nvidia.com/object/driver_installation_hints.html	10:32
scion	the opposite to start x... lol	10:32
scion	ge2x: ok reading now	10:32
ge2x	yep	10:32
Creedence	scion - hahaha, stupid logic!!!	10:32
Creedence	ge2x, so print those off	10:33
scion	Creedence: lol	10:33
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Creedence	ge2x, do what scion asked to stop X, you may need to access anothe terminal, you can do that by pressing ctrl-alt F6 and logging on	10:33
healingdread	i feel that linux is gonna be a trip	10:33
Creedence	remember unless you have 2 pcs you lose us in the process :)	10:34
Creedence	healingdread - what do u mean?	10:34
scion	ge2x: "Windows Control Panel"	10:34
sangeli	Hi, I just finished installing kubuntu and am working on customizations. Can someone please help me with setting up proper video card? I have a nVidia 6600 GT	10:34
healingdread	creedence i just got a good feeling is all	10:34
scion	ge2x: whats the exact model of card	10:34
Creedence	sangeli - hehe, kinda funny we just are in the middle with ge2x	10:35
ge2x	geforce titanium 4200 (ti4200)	10:35
scion	okok	10:35
Creedence	sangeli - can I ask why you wanna update?	10:35
Creedence	did you try something that didn't work?	10:35
ge2x	You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before	10:35
ge2x	installing.	10:35
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ge2x	oh sorry about that :)	10:35
ge2x	http://www.nvidia.com/object/driver_installation_hints.html these are for windows	10:35
sangeli	Creedence, sure: because I wish to switch from "nv" to "nvidia"	10:35
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Creedence	healingdread - it's good for people who want something different... who like to play, you know.... us geeks :)	10:36
sangeli	Creedence, so I can use propretary nvidia drivers	10:36
Creedence	sangeli - why though? do you want to run something specific that doesn't work with nv?	10:36
healingdread	creedence i got that	10:36
luluza	who using team speak??	10:37
healingdread	it's all greek to me	10:37
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sangeli	Creedence, nv is drivers that are shipped with kernel. nvidia are drivers provided by nvidia and usually are more updated too	10:37
ironfroggy	is it possible to have firefox plugins play sound through arts? i tried setting arts in the firefoxrc, but it doesnt seem to work.	10:37
sangeli	now, anybody know how to upgrade drivers?	10:37
ironfroggy	that is, it cant play sound if any KDE apps are playing something.	10:37
Creedence	sangeli - i agree but I figure if it ain't broke.... hehehe	10:37
Creedence	sangeli - i used the automatix, some people in here aren't fans but it worked for me	10:37
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sangeli	I see	10:38
Creedence	http://www.getautomatix.com/	10:38
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ge2x	omg so did everybody forget about me what should i do to install those drivers	10:38
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h3sp4wn	nvidia has just released beta drivers with aiglx support (I would use those with xorg 7.1 and edgy - if I had an nvidia)	10:38
Creedence	ge2x, like I was telling sangeli - maybe instead of using nvidia.com drivers you should try using automatix at the site I wrote above	10:38
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Creedence	it's a script	10:39
Creedence	VERY NICE	10:39
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scion	ge2x: 32bit or 64bit system	10:40
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inam	i know this sounds silly, but im trying to compile banner.c and it says it cant find stdio.h... now which package has stdio.h?	10:40
sangeli	is glx working, transparencies too?	10:40
ge2x	32bit	10:40
sangeli	yes	10:40
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scion	ge2x: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_1.0-0310.html	10:41
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scion	ge2x: this is the .run file... similar to the ati installer	10:42
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scion	ge2x: a graphical installer that is	10:43
scion	ge2x: STEP 2 - instead of sh its sudo	10:43
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Creedence	gotta jet guys	10:43
ge2x	but that is nforce driver	10:43
Creedence	see you later	10:44
fdoving	inam: that's not a silly question.	10:44
scion	ge2x: excuse me - http://www.nvidia.com/object/nzone_downloads_linux_display_x86_1.0-9625.html	10:44
MadRabbit	!sudo	10:44
ubotu	sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.	10:44
zorglu_	scion: yep, be sorry :)	10:44
scion	the search came with 100% related :P - http://www.nvidia.com/page/search.html?page=1&keywords=ti4200+linux&booleanMode=0	10:45
fdoving	inam: it's in the 'libc6-dev' package.	10:45
scion	ge2x: i'm not really sorry - I have my card pumping out quake 3	10:45
scion	ge2x: lmao	10:45
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ge2x	oh and why the beta driver?	10:46
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inam	thanks fdoving... im installing... :)	10:46
scion	ge2x: because from other results google spat out it appears to work just fine	10:47
fdoving	inam: in the future you can go to http://packages.ubuntu.com to find out what package has what files.	10:47
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luca_b	For those apt with the command line, there is a nifty command for that	10:50
sangeli	what about firefox plugins? How to install them all?	10:50
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Homer	!tribler	10:57
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about tribler - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	10:57
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Homer	!info tribler	10:57
ubotu	Package tribler does not exist in any distro I know	10:57
Homer	:\	10:57
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scion	Homer: looks like compiling the source is your only option!	11:03
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luca_b	!info kile	11:08
ubotu	kile: KDE Integrated LaTeX Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.8.1-3.2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1242 kB, installed size 5512 kB	11:08
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ge2x	hey how to exit the x server plz help me im trying to install the nvidia drivers	11:09
mluser-work	how stable/unstable is edgy in general?	11:10
scott_w\|lappy	it makes windows look stable >.>	11:10
scott_w\|lappy	:p	11:10
mluser-work	:)	11:10
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Assassin5	!scanner	11:11
ubotu	Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners	11:11
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ge2x	!x	11:12
ubotu	x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto	11:12
scott_w\|lappy	!kde	11:13
ubotu	KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE	11:13
scott_w\|lappy	cool	11:13
host-one	what program can burn .bin image?	11:13
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ge2x	omg could som1 plzz tell me how to stop the dammned x server	11:14
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mrbrdo	is making mp3\wma (restricted types) the same as with Ubuntu?	11:15
fdoving	ge2x: stop? 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop'	11:15
fdoving	mrbrdo: not mp3,if you want to use amarok. it's all explained on the wiki pages.	11:15
fdoving	!mp3	11:15
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	11:15
mrbrdo	aha so it's the same	11:15
mrbrdo	oh	11:15
mrbrdo	ok well thanks :)	11:16
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mrbrdo	amarok updates are broken right?	11:17
mrbrdo	on dapper	11:17
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host-one	what program can burn .bin image?	11:18
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Assassin5	host-one, pretty sure k3b can.	11:18
mrbrdo	btw, can adept manage packages like gstreamer etc., or u must install such by aptitude?	11:19
mrbrdo	since it was possible in synaptics but adapt doesn't find packages like this	11:19
fdoving	host-one: as assassin5 says, k3b can.	11:19
mrbrdo	only kde\gnome packages	11:19
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host-one	whit k3b I burn iso or cue image	11:19
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fdoving	mrbrdo: you can use adept for that, it's the same list of packages.	11:19
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mrbrdo	fdoving: when i search for gstreamer, nothing shows up but some "multimedia selector" package	11:20
fdoving	mrbrdo: make sure you're not in 'add/remove programs mode".	11:20
mrbrdo	oooh	11:20
mrbrdo	ok :)	11:20
mrbrdo	i thought it was the same thing	11:20
fdoving	mrbrdo: start adept from 'kmenu -> system -> adept manager'	11:20
host-one	but when I click with right mouse on file.bine he didn't say burn image whit k3b	11:20
mrbrdo	yep got it	11:20
mrbrdo	thanks a bunch	11:20
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mrbrdo	https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats says i need gstreamer0.8-mad.. can i use the 0.10 version? (for mp3 support)	11:21
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mrbrdo	hm is there one anyway?	11:22
mrbrdo	or only 0.8 has mad	11:22
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fdoving	mrbrdo: i belive you're looking at the ubuntu spesific section. find the kubuntu one.	11:25
fdoving	s/c	11:25
mrbrdo	nope	11:27
mrbrdo	it's for both..	11:27
mrbrdo	anyway, which package for mp3 and wma.. gstreamer0.8-mad didn't work, i think it's using gstreamer 0.10	11:27
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Assassin5	which package can i get the scanner kernel module from?	11:29
mrbrdo	hm it actually seems to be using xine (amarok)	11:29
cronen	anyone runnin' NoMachine's Free NX server? not FreeNX	11:30
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mrbrdo	how to put mp3 support into amarok? the wiki entry is either wrong or old	11:33
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fdoving	mrbrdo: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s might be helpfull.	11:34
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P4ck3t	well /dev/ttyS0 is for serial devices.... if it will be usb devices then what path i have to give ???	11:35
mrbrdo	better, thanks	11:35
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mrbrdo	hm	11:35
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mrbrdo	fdoving: i already did install libxine-extracodecs though, and amarok still won't play mp3s	11:35
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mrbrdo	do i need to reboot? :O	11:36
mrbrdo	nvm works now	11:36
fdoving	mrbrdo: no, that shouldn't be neccessary.. did you restart amarok? select the xine engine?	11:36
fdoving	good :)	11:36
kyaneos	has someone problems updating flashplugin-nonfree?? please	11:37
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mrbrdo	how to make a window (kopete contact list) remember where it was so it places itself there every time it's restarted	11:37
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kyaneos	mrbrdo: i think in kcontrol --> windows specific settings	11:38
fdoving	mrbrdo: rightclick on the tittlebar -> advanced -> special window settings.. or something like that.	11:39
mrbrdo	fdoving: any other way? i have xgl\compiz and i don't have those menus anymore	11:39
mrbrdo	kyaneos: let me see	11:39
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loverboy	hello	11:39
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loverboy	can somebody help me about fglrx drivers?	11:40
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mrbrdo	yeah loverboy	11:41
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mrbrdo	i just installed them on my kubuntu dapper	11:41
mrbrdo	working pretty nice for now :)	11:41
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loverboy	things is like this	11:41
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loverboy	i have onley piece of driver not full	11:41
loverboy	works on suse 10 fine	11:42
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loverboy	convert from rpm to deb	11:42
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loverboy	now driver are loaded bud in lsmod is zero ( 0 ) by fglrx	11:42
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mrbrdo	hm	11:43
mrbrdo	well	11:43
mrbrdo	i suggest u follow a ubuntu\kubuntu howto, that will be the easiest way for you	11:43
loverboy	when i try dpkg reconfigure with fglrx cant log in x server	11:43
mrbrdo	!ati	11:43
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	11:43
mrbrdo	try this	11:43
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kyaneos	loverboy: what is fglrx??	11:43
mrbrdo	kyaneos: ATI binary driver	11:43
loverboy	name of the driver	11:43
kyaneos	oh okis, thanks	11:43
loverboy	brdo da nisi neki balkanac?	11:44
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mrbrdo	slovenac :)	11:44
loverboy	xex	11:44
loverboy	jos tipkamo engleski :)	11:44
fdoving	mrbrdo: for your placement issue, you can try this command: kwin_rules_dialog --wid `dcop kopete mainWindow getWinID`	11:44
mrbrdo	lol ok :)	11:44
mrbrdo	fdoving: i'm using cgwd not kwin	11:44
loverboy	e nemogu skidati punu verziju .run imam dial up :(((	11:44
sybux	I've got some problem with the installation of a 686 kernel. When I start X, it stop on the Kubutnu picture. any idea ?	11:45
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fdoving	mrbrdo: ah.. then you're out of luck.	11:45
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mrbrdo	loverboy: i still recommend following the wiki anyway :) it may be that your suse package isn't even compatible with kubuntu	11:45
mrbrdo	fdoving: :)	11:45
loverboy	thats package from ati	11:46
loverboy	converted by alien	11:46
socres__	ES GEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHT	11:46
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mrbrdo	loverboy: oh!	11:46
cronen	speaking of suse.. any converts from suse to kubuntu?	11:46
mrbrdo	loverboy: sec plz	11:46
mrbrdo	loverboy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI scroll down to section 4. Using the drivers from ati.com	11:47
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mrbrdo	loverboy: if that's something that you did, then just start from where u ended	11:47
loverboy	mrbrdo thnks hope this works!	11:47
mrbrdo	hope so too :)	11:47
loverboy	ziv bio brate :)	11:47
loverboy	cheers...	11:48
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mrbrdo	:P	11:48
mrbrdo	neighbour country :)	11:48
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mrbrdo	what's "wacom" for?	11:49
mrbrdo	i get errors about it in xorg log, can i remove it from xorg.conf?	11:49
fdoving	tablets	11:49
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fdoving	you sure can.	11:49
mrbrdo	i don't need that then	11:49
LeeJunFan	mrbrdo: yeah, but it doesn't hurt to leave there.	11:49
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mrbrdo	LeeJunFan: don't like errors :P	11:49
LeeJunFan	it's just telling you it didn't find it.	11:50
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mrbrdo	i don't own a tablet so i guess i'll never need that	11:50
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mrbrdo	hm i gotta say kubuntu works great	11:51
mrbrdo	had many problems in ubuntu but not here.. maybe it's because of a clean install though :)	11:52
pcastro	anyone install ant-optional in kubuntu?	11:52
cronen	hehe	11:52
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cronen	mrbrdo - you using synaptic or adept to install stuff?	11:52
cronen	I'm new to kubuntu	11:52
cronen	never used ubuntu	11:52
pcastro	i try apt-get install ant-optional but says package is not available	11:52
cronen	or any debian based release :P	11:52
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mrbrdo	cronen: i use adept now	11:53
mrbrdo	cronen: or aptitude	11:53
cronen	any reason?	11:53
pcastro	tried synaptic but no ant-optional	11:53
cronen	ok.. what's ant-optional?	11:53
mrbrdo	cronen: cause it's made for kubuntu and synaptics is made for ubuntu :)	11:53
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mrbrdo	cronen: it's pretty nice tho, looks even better than synaptics (adept that is)	11:53
cronen	hrrmm.. I kinda like how synaptic arranges things	11:54
mrbrdo	only started using it now but i like it	11:54
pcastro	ant-optional is optional packages for ANT :-)	11:54
mrbrdo	cronen: for example?	11:54
cronen	hehe .. ahh pcastro	11:54
ryanakca	!restricted	11:54
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	11:54
cronen	there's that left pane.. I can easily select sections	11:54
mattikoo	What is right NVAgp value in xorg.conf for geforce MX400?	11:54
pcastro	contains things like replaceregexp and other optional ant tasks	11:54
cronen	and I seem to like the search tool better	11:54
mrbrdo	cronen: oh well, i guess u'll get used to it :P i'd recommend using it over synaptics, because u need gnome libs for synaptics	11:55
cronen	the only thing that's weird is that sometimes... when I install an app.. the terminal window is waiting for a response	11:55
cronen	and I dont' know it.. so it seems like it's hanging	11:55
cronen	this could be the issue I'm having :P	11:55
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mrbrdo	terminal window?	11:56
cronen	yeah	11:56
mrbrdo	what does it have to do with adept?	11:56
cronen	nothing.. but when I run synaptic I've had this problem	11:56
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cronen	it's like an ncurses app	11:56
mrbrdo	synaptic is a gnome app afaik	11:56
cronen	for example on the postfix install	11:56
mrbrdo	if you mean synaptic from ubuntu	11:57
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cronen	I'll stick with adept then	11:57
cronen	yeah that one	11:57
swatgoss	re all	11:57
mrbrdo	cronen: if u want a ncurses (or something like it, not sure) packet manager, try aptitude	11:57
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mrbrdo	cronen: i'm sure we'll get used to adept :) it's not all that bad, we just need to adapt :P	11:58
cronen	nod... I'll play with adept some more	11:58
mrbrdo	anyway, i've got a question	11:58
cronen	woot.. got firefox updated :)	11:58
mattikoo	cronen: I have synaptic in kubuntu	11:58
mrbrdo	i've got 2 cards, but i'd like an easy way to switch between them when i want	11:58
mrbrdo	how can i do that	11:58
cronen	dunno much about multicard stuff	11:58
mrbrdo	cronen: u can install synaptics ofc, but it's a gnome app in essence :)	11:59
cronen	oh yeah mattikoo?	11:59
mattikoo	cronen: I had problems when I installed it	11:59
cronen	mattikoo: it's ok for the most part but sometimes it attempts to launch a ghome window	11:59
cronen	mattikoo: and I only saw that when I expanded the 'terminal' option	11:59
mrbrdo	;P	12:00
cronen	so... going with adept :P	12:00
LeeJunFan	when it comes to GUI I like synaptic better, but 99.9% of the time I use apt-get and apt-cache on the command line anyway...	12:00
cronen	alright everyone .. have fun kubuntuing... kubuntu rocks btw :)	12:00
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klerfayt	I can't eject dvd - "umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy"	12:06
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fdoving	klerfayt: try 'sudo umount -l /media/cdrom0' (the -l is for lazy)	12:08
fdoving	i'm going to bed. nite.	12:08
knithx	I am having problems with xgl compiz	12:08
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Mortice	!xgl	12:08
ubotu	Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems	12:08
klerfayt	fdoving: it worked; any idea why it was busy?	12:09
knithx	I have ATI	12:10
knithx	:S	12:10
fdoving	klerfayt: something used it. don't know what, it's too late to find out now. :)	12:10
gnomefreak	btw guys dappers compiz is broken (trying to install) just letting you know	12:10
gnomefreak	and the warning was placed on the page :) good	12:10

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