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[02:18] <poningru> yarr
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[03:27] <Flannel> yarr?  TLAPD was two days ago!
[03:27] <Flannel> although, I appreciate you doing your part in preventing natural disasters
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[03:48] <Burgundavia> johnlittle_cafe, johnlittle: ping
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[03:49] <johnlittle_cafe> Burgundavia: caffinated pong
[03:49] <Burgundavia> right, what did i need from you now...
[03:50] <Burgundavia> hmm, let me get back to you. I forget ;)
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[03:51] <johnlittle_cafe> Fine with me. I'm buried :)
[03:51] <johnlittle_cafe> I'll add that disclaimer if ya want to the userful story if ya want
[03:52] <johnlittle_cafe> er..bad editing there
[03:53] <Burgundavia> yes, please add that
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[04:07] <johnlittle_cafe> burgundavia: what did you think about documenting the UWN roles a little?
[04:07] <Burgundavia> johnlittle_cafe: sure, add it to /contacts
[04:08] <johnlittle_cafe> you have time to do yours before you leave?
[04:09] <Burgundavia> yes, I do
[04:10] <johnlittle_cafe> ok i'll work up atemplate
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[04:16] <Burgundavia> cheers
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[04:43] <freelancer317> Howdy everyone...  New guy to the group....and to Ubuntu... and to Linux.... And to IRC...
[04:45] <freelancer317> I've a marketing background, and have done quite a bit of freelance newspaper work, and was interested in helping out.
[04:46] <rouben> Hey freelancer317, welcome! :)
[04:47] <freelancer317> Hey rouben, thanks!  It's good to be here.
[04:47] <Burgundavia> welcome freelancer317
[04:47] <rouben> freelancer317: so, what prompted you to try Linux?
[04:48] <nixternal> windows xp hack doesn't work any more ;)
[04:48] <nixternal> you know how many of my surveys have that for an answer
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[04:49] <freelancer317> Well, my deepseated hatred of Microsoft... lol... No, I like the idea of community developed software... I really like the "community" part of it.
[04:49] <rouben> heh, yeah. i pretty much use windows for gaming; any games that dont run on cedega/wine :) That's why I havent used my windows box in a week :P
[04:49] <rouben> freelancer317: addictive, isn't it? I think that's the most "romantic" part of FOSS
[04:50] <freelancer317> Unfortunately, I am going to be turning on my Windoze in a few minutes, so that I can do some work for the day job... Curses.
[04:51] <rouben> ugh... if it werent for gaming, i'd run windows in vmware.
[04:52] <freelancer317> rouben: romantic is pretty accurate!  :-)
[04:52] <freelancer317> I have ActiveX controls that only seem to work on IE.
[04:53] <freelancer317> Correction I have to use a web based system that uses ActiveX
[04:53] <Burgundavia> freelancer317: activex is an IE only technology
[04:53] <Burgundavia> welcome to the "rich web"
[04:55] <freelancer317> Oh joy.
[04:57] <freelancer317> I'm tethered to Windows forever.  Or until the provider changes heart.  Crud, I'm going to be stuck with it forever!
[04:57] <freelancer317> Thank God for dual boot systems!
[04:58] <freelancer317> rouben:  what is vmware?
[05:03] <freelancer317> Well, I've got to switch over to the other side... I haven't brought up a IRC client before, so I may be back in a bit, and I might not!
[05:04] <freelancer317> Regardless, it was nice "meeting" you folks.  I hope to talk to you again soon.  If there is anything I can help with, let me know.
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[05:30] <freelancer317> Well after a quick download of Chatzilla, I'm back!
[05:42] <elkbuntu> :)
[05:56] <rouben> freelancer317: vmware is a technology that allows you to run several virtual computers on top of an existing operating system. So, for example, instead of dual-booting between Linux and Windows
[05:56] <rouben> freelancer317: you can run Linux, install VMWare on top, and boot Windows inside VMware
[05:56] <rouben> freelancer317: VMWare Server is free to download right now. http://www.vmware.com/products/server/
[05:57] <rouben> I'd use it myself, but its virtual hardware doesn't handle 3D acceleration yet
[05:57] <freelancer317> rouben:  Woah!  That's too cool.... Is that available in the repositories?  Or only from the website?
[05:57] <rouben> afaik it's not in the repositories
[05:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> vmware player is
[05:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> dapper multiverse iirc
[05:58] <rouben> yeah, but you cant create vms with player, unfortunately
[05:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> also look at qemu
[05:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh
[05:58] <rouben> and plus, server is so much more flexible
[05:58] <rouben> yeah, qemu works as well, although it's not as simple to configure, and it's a tad slower than vmware
[05:59] <freelancer317> Can it access the currently installed Windows, or do you have to do something different?
=== Kamping_Kaiser doesnt need any of that stuff - wine works fine if i need non-ubuntu, so i'm not familar with them :)
[06:00] <rouben> freelancer317: unfortunately no... it can technically use partitions as disks, but windows will refuse to boot under it, because it's not as flexible as linux when it comes to running on different hardware
[06:00] <rouben> linux will dynamically load drivers for different hardware on bootup, so you can take the hard disk with a linux install on it and put it on virtually any machine and it will boot ok in most cases
[06:00] <rouben> windows, on the other hand, will try to load the drivers for the machine it was installed on, and in mmost cases will just bluescreen on bootup :(
[06:01] <freelancer317> rouben:  so you have to run VMware and then it will install Windows on top?  From the XP cd-roms?
[06:02] <rouben> freelancer317: essentially, when you start VMWare, it will ask you to set up a virtual machine. That involves choosing what kind of "virtual" hardware you want
[06:03] <rouben> like whether you want a CD-ROM or not, and whether you want a sound card, whether to use IDE or SCSI, etc
[06:03] <rouben> then when that is done, you power on the VM, and amazingly enough you are greeted with the familiar BIOS boot up screen
[06:03] <elkbuntu> guys, sorry to be a sourpuss, but this isnt a support channel
[06:04] <freelancer317> elkbuntu:  Sorry... Rookie mistake on my part... I apologize, my fault.
[06:04] <rouben> elkbuntu: indeed, we're just discussing different software... I guess this should be moved to msgs, but given that there's no marketing related chatter on here, i figured a bit off-topic shooting the breeze wouldnt hurt
[06:04] <elkbuntu> that's fine, and not entirely your fault :)
[06:05] <rouben> but in any case... dont mean to pollute :)
[06:05] <elkbuntu> rouben, i just keep clicking over thinking there is marketing chatter :P
[06:07] <rouben> well, everyone, i'm gonna hit the sack. nice meeting you all!
[06:07] <freelancer317> Nice talking with you rouben, have a good night and thanks again!
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[08:20] <Burgundavia> theCore: I didn't realize you were Canadiabn
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[10:06] <Burgwork> nixternal, pingt
[10:25] <MitchM__> ping -t ?
[10:25] <MitchM__> silly windows user. trix are for kids.
[10:25] <MitchM__> =)
[10:26] <Burgwork> MitchM, no, more a typo
[10:27] <MitchM> ... just giving you a hard time =)
[10:29] <Burgwork> right
[10:30] <MitchM> huh.
[10:33] <ompaul> trick my ping?
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[10:54] <nixternal> Burgwork: pong?
[11:01] <Burgwork> nixternal, got a moment to chat about ubuntu chicago in an hour or so?
[11:02] <nixternal> not really...im currently in banff, ab ;)
[11:03] <nixternal> just got back from golfing, going to shower, put on some warm clothes, cuz it got pretty darn cold quick here...and get ready to go to dinner, and then a bachelor party ;)
[11:13] <lophyte> sounds like someone's on vacation
[11:14] <Burgwork> nixternal, you are in Canuckistan?
[11:14] <nixternal> hehe ya
[11:14] <nixternal> dude...i want to live here
[11:14] <nixternal> im in a castle right now for a hotel
[11:14] <nixternal> im out of here sunday morn ;(
[11:15] <lophyte> lol
[11:15] <lophyte> I've never been to AB
[11:16] <nixternal> i was at the winter olympics here before...but i don't remember it ever being this beautiful
[11:16] <nixternal> maybe because it is still green
[11:16] <nixternal> the only white is at the tips of the mountains
[11:16] <nixternal> i forgot my iPod, my camera, toothbrush, cell phone....at least i didn't forget my lappy
[11:17] <nixternal> i forgot the ip to home..thank god i had it on my computer at school
[11:18] <nixternal> people always say the canadian rockies are the most beautiful...now i know why...stupid ass americans can't leave well enough alone...instead of having green mountain ranges, ours look like big ass rocks, cuz we decided we didn't need the forests
[11:18] <lophyte> lol
[11:20] <nixternal> my buddy is so stinking rich it isn't even funny
[11:20] <nixternal> i need to hook up with someone in the wedding party..i have a suite all to myself
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[12:03] <Flannel> actually, nixternal, there weren't forests there, which is why they're 'rockies', most of them are above treeline