[12:01] <boink> is rename an ubuntu command too?
[12:01] <boink> same as mv ?
[12:01] <beuno> boink: it works on all my ubuntu boxes...
[12:01] <teenprogrammer> Whats a Video Card Bus Identifier?
[12:01] <ladydoor> boink: mv is the command you use to change a name
[12:02] <synjet> boink: rename is for files I guess
[12:02] <beuno> boink: mv moves it, I'm not sure what the differences
[12:02] <boink> but rename ?
[12:02] <ladydoor> boink: or to move something to a different dir
[12:02] <boink> hmm
[12:02] <ladydoor> boink: actually, you use mv to rename files too.
[12:02] <beuno> yes, that's correct
[12:02] <boink> I see
[12:02] <tmccrary> does anyone know of any wireless game controller pads that work with linux?
[12:02] <mycroes> what's the difference between removal and complete removal in the synaptic package manager?
[12:02] <beuno> fore files only
[12:02] <tyler-wylie> how do I install the IVTV driver on my ubuntu install? o.O
[12:02] <ladydoor> boink: rename is to rename *multiple* files
[12:02] <boink> ok
[12:03] <teenprogrammer> What is my Video Card Bus Identifier?
[12:03] <tmccrary> tyler: setting up a DVr too eh? too bad I don't have any happagauge cards ;)
[12:03] <teenprogrammer> I have a built in VC and an AGP video card . .  .And i dont know what to put O_o
[12:03] <spdf> mycroes, complete removal also purges configuration files if I'm not mistaken
[12:03] <ladydoor> mycroes: complete removal gets rid of all config files outside your home dir
[12:03] <teenprogrammer> I want to use AG
[12:03] <teenprogrammer> P
[12:03] <mycroes> ok, nice, I like complete removal then :D
[12:03] <ladydoor> haha
[12:04] <vlt> beuno: What does that mean, "try" ESD?
[12:04] <vlt> beuno: Where to setup this?
[12:04] <beuno> vlt: *choose* ESD
[12:05] <MetaMorfoziS> bb all
[12:05] <beuno> vlt: I'm sorry, I don't have amaroK installed on the box
[12:05] <cdavis> I am using dapper I think, is there a newer version of totem I can install, this version has a bug with subtitles I think
[12:06] <teenprogrammer> this xorg configure thing just gave me a list of modules i can either load or not load
[12:06] <teenprogrammer> Should i just leave it at default?
[12:06] <vlt> beuno: So can you reccommend a tool I can use to playback an audio file?
[12:06] <synjet> vlt: xine?
[12:06] <beuno> vlt: try "listen", "xmms" or "rhythmbox"
[12:06] <synjet> vlt: I mean xmms
[12:06] <tyler-wylie> tmccrary, I'm trying a howto but it's for 5.10
[12:06] <cdavis> on fedora there are the testing repos that I could try, but I don't know what to try with ubuntu
[12:07] <boink> depends on your level of pain
[12:08] <znull> what program do I need for my TV ? I'm running ubuntu
[12:08] <boink> xawtv
[12:08] <boricua> long time ago a reported a bug it was confirmed but no fix nor any addition info on it?  how long do they take to fix bugs my wireless card wrt54g keeps locking
[12:08] <boink> you have a tv card, right?
[12:08] <znull> yes
[12:08] <boink> you could try xawtv
[12:08] <znull> that's for gnome ?
[12:08] <boink> I'm not sure if gnome has it's own tv-thing
[12:09] <boink> but I've always used xawtv
[12:09] <SlipperyChicken> like omg hi k thx :)
[12:09] <znull> damm
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[12:09] <HellDragon> wtf
[12:09] <ompaul> ahh
[12:09] <Neo8750> hooray!!
[12:09] <gnomefreak> ack
[12:09] <Hobbsee> bah.
[12:09] <ompaul> LoRez, :-)
[12:10] <HellDragon> poor ColdFyre.
[12:11] <Neo8750> lag
[12:11] <gnomefreak> LoRez: did you ban him?
[12:11] <Rez> gnomefreak: yeah.
[12:11] <gnomefreak> ok
[12:11] <locke> hey i just changed to a p4 from k7
[12:12] <locke> so i need to install new kernel
[12:12] <locke> but im in commandline
[12:12] <locke> how can i find and install the latest kernel for p4 and source
[12:12] <locke> and change my grub config from hde2 to hda2
[12:13] <locke> i changed it for this boot but i forget how to do it permanently
[12:13] <ladydoor> locke: you can edit your grub like this
[12:13] <vlt> synjet: I installed xmms, chose "libALSA.so" and configured it to "hw:1,0" but get an error message telling me that I have to configure the output device ...
[12:13] <gnomefreak> locke: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:13] <locke> sweet
[12:13] <archangelpetro> incidently.. the applications menu for xubuntu... how does one update it so that it contains the latest downloads?
[12:13] <magnet> gnomefreak: gksu ;)
[12:13] <ladydoor> locke: first, back it up:  sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.bak
[12:13] <gnomefreak> magnet: nope
[12:13] <gnomefreak> magnet: gksudo
[12:13] <ladydoor> locke: then do sudo nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:13] <gnomefreak> and i meant to type nano
[12:13] <ladydoor> actually, lock is in a CLI
[12:14] <synjet> vlt: try rhythmbox
[12:14] <magnet> gnomefreak: nope, gksudo is a symlink to gksu :)
[12:14] <locke> i dont have x up yet
[12:14] <locke> ima pico it
[12:14] <magnet> gnomefreak: so it's gksu (not only it's the name of the prog, but it's shorter :p)
[12:14] <gnomefreak> magnet: no its not gksu = for su password gksudo = sudo password
[12:14] <ladydoor> locke: actually, it's nano. please look at what i said to you about copying it and using nano -w
[12:14] <locke> k i got that written
[12:15] <magnet> gnomefreak: ls -l `which gksudo`
[12:15] <locke> whats -w
[12:15] <dionnow> Hey everyone, So I'm currently using the LiveCD because my ubuntu install on my HD isnt working for me... I'm trying to mount the HD so I can copy a few files off there, but I'm getting "Error: device /dev/hda is not removable"   Any ideas?
[12:15] <ladydoor> locke: it makes it not break long lines of code
[12:15] <locke> i just changed the entry to match the entry i made for when i booted this time
[12:15] <locke> doesnt pico work right?
[12:15] <cdavis> how is it that I install the kernel source for compiling vmware?
[12:15] <gnomefreak> magnet: gksu will _not_ work unless you use the su password
[12:15] <locke> i've used pico for my config files ever since slack 3
[12:16] <sys6656> Hi, is there any apps that I can use my usb web cam with Ubuntu 6.06 ? Please.
[12:16] <ladydoor> locke: cool. you can use control-x to quit after you use control-o to save.
[12:16] <ladydoor> locke: and nano is a free-software pico clone
[12:16] <locke> oh
[12:16] <magnet> gnomefreak: if by su password, you mean root password, I don't agree, and _I am_ right :P
[12:16] <locke> well i made the change and now grub is set right
[12:16] <locke> now i need to get the latest 686 kernel and kernel source
[12:17] <locke> then i'll boot into it and do the nvidia install
[12:17] <locke> and then i have to go to work
[12:17] <ladydoor> locke: sudo aptitude install linux-686 linux-headers-686
[12:17] <locke> i'm supposed to be going right now
[12:17] <gnomefreak> magnet: please join #ubuntu-offtopic and i will look for what i want to show you about it (i just worked on a bug about this)
[12:17] <ladydoor> locke: maybe
[12:17] <locke> but i cant go till i see second life running on here :)
[12:17] <locke> sweet! perfect
[12:18] <locke> thats exactly what i was looking for :)
[12:18] <vlt> synjet: Installed rhythbox. How to set the output device there?
[12:18] <synjet> vlt: sorry for having you install all these apps.. lemme see how that works
[12:19] <sys6656> Sorry, re-phrasing, Is there any apps that I can use to enable and capture images with my usb web cam in Unbuntu 6.06?
[12:20] <synjet> vlt: so rhythmbox doesnt work directly?
[12:20] <ompaul> sys6656, there is a page on the wiki about that let me find it for you
[12:20] <beuno> vlt: what type of file are you trying to play?
[12:20] <sys6656> ompaul: Thank You
[12:20] <vlt> beuno: wav, ogg, mp3 ...
[12:21] <ompaul> sys6656, two relevant pages https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=camera&titlesearch=Titles
[12:21] <beuno> vlt: have you installed the codecs for MP3?
[12:21] <synjet> sys6656: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[12:21] <sys6656> ompaul: Thank You very much, i'll give it a spin
[12:21] <sys6656> ;-)
[12:21] <ompaul> yw
[12:22] <vlt> beuno: Yes.
[12:22] <beuno> vlt: and you still can't play any files?
[12:23] <beuno> it really should be pretty straight forward
[12:23] <vlt> beuno: amaroK, for instance, _does_ play the files but I think to another device than I expect ...
[12:23] <physicsnick> Hey all. I just installed Compiz.
[12:23] <beuno> vlt: can you explain what you mean by "another device"?
[12:23] <physicsnick> Now I'm getting a "Could not load 'gconf'" error.
[12:24] <stealg> i have a problem with ati x1300 256 video ram  i have less memory in linux why ?
[12:24] <locke> alright brb in new kernel
[12:24] <physicsnick> Anyone know why?
[12:24] <znull> who can tell me a rss reader ?
[12:24] <synjet> znull: liferea
[12:24] <beuno> znull: I use bloglines, but thunderbird does that pretty well too
[12:25] <znull> synjet: it's for gnome ?
[12:25] <synjet> znull: yes
[12:25] <znull> synjet: ok installed where is it ?
[12:26] <znull> found
[12:26] <Sp4rKy> hi
[12:26] <Sp4rKy> please what is the command for mv/cp a file in a repository which doesn't exist (create it)
[12:26] <vlt> beuno, I'll try ... On OtherOS(TM) I can chose the PCM device I want to send audio to in system settings (for the default) or in the application. I think amaroK plays to a device my speakers are not connected to (btw yesterday it worked, maybe the device is chosen new on every boot???)
[12:27] <synjet> znull: alt-F2 and then liferea or under internet apps
[12:27] <Sp4rKy> ie: mv -XXX myfile /a/b/c/d
[12:27] <vlt> beuno, *I'll try to explain ... ;)
[12:27] <Sp4rKy> and it must create /a/b/c/d
[12:27] <kalif> Sp4rKy: cp -R
[12:27] <beuno> vlt: maybe it's chosen by the BIOS
[12:28] <Sp4rKy> kalif: k
[12:28] <dionnow> How do I go about mounting an ubuntu HD while running the live CD?
[12:28] <Sp4rKy> kalif: no, it doesn't create /a/b/c.d
[12:28] <sethk> dionnow, you type the appropriate mount command
[12:28] <Sp4rKy> s/./\/
[12:29] <kalif> Sp4rKy: ahhh...    don't think you can do that
[12:29] <dionnow> That much I figured, now my problem is finding the appropriate one I suppose.
[12:29] <kalif> you must mkdirhier /a/b/c/d first
[12:29] <sethk> dionnow, fdisk -l will tell you what partitions you have on the hard drive
[12:30] <vlt> beuno: THE BIOS?!? No no no, if I run `alsamixer -c0` I get the mixer for the 1st device (an onboard chip), `... -c1` shows me my soundcard ...
[12:30] <dionnow> ok so i've located the one I'd like to mount.
[12:30] <POVaddct> kalif: mkdirhier is only available when X is installed. better use mkdir -p
[12:30] <sethk> dionnow, ok, if it's ext3, and you create a directory /mnt/whatever, it is:  mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/whatever
[12:30] <beuno> vlt: oh, then, I'm not sure how to help you then, sorry  :(
[12:30] <sethk> dionnow, or hda2, or 3, or hdb#, whichever is correct for your box
[12:31] <kalif> POVaddct: oh yeah...  it's from imake
[12:31] <dionnow> ahh, so I've just been lacking the mount point part i suppose
[12:32] <locke> aright i installed nvidia but it wont start
[12:32] <sethk> dionnow, well, you have to mount it somewhere.  :)
[12:32] <locke> in my xorg.conf i have driver "nvidia" and BusID "PCI:0:15:0"
[12:32] <Sp4rKy> kalif: i do mkdir -p && mv
[12:32] <dionnow> Thanks for the help sethk, btw, I forget the command to create a dir at the terminal?
[12:32] <locke> how do i verify thats where it should be
[12:32] <locke> its actually on agp
[12:32] <sethk> dionnow, mkdir
[12:32] <locke> i did lspci
[12:32] <kalif> Sp4rKy: sounds ok
[12:32] <Sp4rKy> but i'm looking for another command
[12:32] <Sp4rKy> which return the namefile in a path
[12:33] <sethk> locke, lspci tells you the PCI bus part of it, obviously
[12:33] <kalif> Sp4rKy: example?
[12:33] <Sp4rKy> MyComand a/b/c/d/f/r/myfile  returns myfile
[12:33] <sethk> locke, and whether it's an nvidia. also obviously.
[12:33] <kalif> Sp4rKy: basename
[12:33] <Vesperto> Hello. Can anyone tell ,e the user/root passwords for the Ubuntu LiveCD?
[12:33] <locke> i know whats in my box
[12:33] <Sp4rKy> kalif: :D
[12:33] <locke> i just need ot know how to get the right address in the xorg.conf
[12:34] <sethk> locke, you edit the file
[12:34] <dionnow> Sethk thanks again
[12:34] <locke> lspci | grep NV11 gives me 0000:01:00.0
[12:34] <ladydoor> Vesperto: no root password. all the information you need should be on one of the information pages you found before you probably downloaded the cd
[12:34] <locke> is that what i put in for BusID
[12:34] <synjet> Vesperto: it asks for one? just hit login
[12:34] <micahcowan> Vesperto, there is no root password, afaik. Use sudo for root priveleges (which will not require a password, on the live CD). No idea if there's even a password set for the user, "ubuntu".
[12:35] <dionnow> I commend you guys on all the patience you must have to be able to do this
[12:35] <dionnow> lol
[12:35] <physicsnick> Hey guys, I'm trying to install Compiz, but for some reason apt-get can't find the packages for csm and cgwd
[12:35] <physicsnick> even though I added the Compiz repositories and Compiz installed fine.
[12:35] <sethk> locke, throw away the first number
[12:35] <physicsnick> any ideas why?
[12:35] <locke> ok
[12:35] <Vesperto> synacktion, doesn't ask, but if you leave it alone the screensaver starts and *then* it asks... ;-)
[12:36] <Vesperto> ladydoor, i have the shipped CD.
[12:36] <locke> so 01:00:0?
[12:36] <Vesperto> miThank you! :-)
[12:36] <locke> or 1:00:0
[12:36] <sethk> locke, yes
[12:36] <sethk> locke, that's how mine is set up, and it works.
[12:36] <Vesperto> micahcowan,  Thank you! :-)
[12:36] <ladydoor> Vesperto: aha. will, i would look at micahcowan's post to you, above
[12:36] <Vesperto> ladydoor, just did :-)
[12:36] <locke> alright lets see
[12:36] <Vesperto> Goodbye and thank you.
[12:36] <ladydoor> Vesperto: cool
[12:37] <locke> gr
[12:37] <locke> great!
[12:37] <locke> works
[12:37] <locke> brb
[12:37] <Lam_> anyone else have the problem with audio/video desyncing when playing flash videos on youtube or the like?
[12:37] <ryan_> how do i read files off a dvd
[12:37] <magnet> Lam_: like, everyone :)
[12:37] <synjet> Lam_ sometimes, yes..
[12:37] <Lam_> ok good. i thought it was just me
[12:37] <Lam_> probably a flash thing, right?
[12:37] <magnet> Lam_: we're all waiting for flash9, early 2007
[12:37] <magnet> definitely a flash thing
[12:37] <Lam_> yeah i figured. thanks for the heads up
[12:38] <magnet> acknowledged by adobe
[12:38] <Locke> SWEET
[12:38] <Locke> just went from a duron 1.0 to a p4 2.6
[12:38] <Locke> gotta try some 3d now
[12:38] <Silenced> hey all does any know of a program for joining multiple pieces of a video file that has been split
[12:39] <synjet> Silenced: kino, maybe
[12:39] <Sjoerd-> hello, i plan to buy a 1u server and put ubuntu on it, does anyone here have some knowledge about these kind of servers?
[12:40] <Silenced> synjet I'll check it out
[12:40] <Sjoerd-> what hardware should i buy? And how do I know it works flawlessly under ubuntu?
[12:40] <ladydoor> Sjoerd-: there's no such thing as hardware that works flawlessly under anything
[12:41] <Sjoerd-> ok but you do get my point?
[12:41] <ladydoor> Sjoerd-: unless, of course, you have the ability to reduce entropy in localized areas
[12:41] <ladydoor> :-)
[12:41] <magnet> !hardware
[12:41] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[12:41] <sethk> sjoerd, I've seen no significant difference between a 1U mount box and any other box
[12:42] <sethk> sjoerd, get a well supported chip set on the main board.
[12:42] <Sjoerd-> alright thanks sethk
[12:42] <Sjoerd-> I have been looking for a case and motherboard but it's hard to find on the web - but maybe i'm asking in the wrong channel
[12:43] <jtkiefer> hi, I'm having some serious issues doing some sharing trying to share a directory with a windows machine.  I can easily share the windows directory but whenever I try to connect to a shared linux directory with windows it gives me a password prompt and refuses to accept any password I put in as valid, even though I set the folder as public trying both smb and nfs, any advice?
[12:43] <Jack_Smirnoff> pricewatch.com is where I find a lot of stuff
[12:43] <sethk> sjoerd, I haven't use them in about six months, so anything I would say is too stale to be useful
[12:44] <sethk> jtkiefer, you are using a username and password that are valid on the windows box?
[12:44] <Sjoerd-> yes but how do you know if a motherboard fits in a case?
[12:44] <czer323> xgl
[12:44] <keegan_> Hi Everyone, I installed XGL/Compiz using Automatix Bleeder.  When I change the session to XGL, it never loads up.  It just takes me right back to the GDM.  I have a P3 866, 512 Megs of RAM and a GeForce 5200
[12:44] <czer323> !gxl
[12:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gxl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:44] <jtkiefer> sethk, yes
[12:44] <czer323> !xgl
[12:44] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:44] <sethk> sjoerd, there is a standard form factor
[12:44] <jtkiefer> sethk, yes
[12:44] <sethk> jtkiefer, is there a windows domain server involved?
[12:44] <jtkiefer> no, just the two boxes, both connected to the same router
[12:45] <Sjoerd-> I have been looking at this server ( http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/1U/811/SC811T-260.cfm ) it says: "1U chassis support for max. motherboard size - 12" x 10" ATX"
[12:45] <Sjoerd-> will that mean I can use any kind of ATX motherboard in it since they normally don't go over 12 x 10" ?
[12:45] <sethk> sjoerd, supermicro is generally a good board
[12:45] <czer323> Yeah, so random commment about window refreshing.  Tell me if there's a known fix or troubleshooting.  A lot of windows seem to be experiencing some type of page tearing.  Like, I"ll be scrolling up or down, it'll lose the correct words, and when i mouse over, it'll show the right words.  Any suggestions?
[12:45] <czer323> Gaim is my perfect example
[12:45] <sethk> sjoerd, isn't the form factor different for the 1u chassis?
[12:45] <sethk> sjoerd, I believe it is, and also there are single and double cases.
[12:46] <Sjoerd-> sethk: possible... How do I find out :)
[12:46] <sethk> sjoerd, keep searching, try to find somebody who is more up to date on the stuff than me.
[12:46] <Sjoerd-> sethk: I have read through the manual but it doesn't say anything about supported motherboards
[12:46] <Jack_Smirnoff> sjoerd: you can always look for a barebones setup with the mb you want..
[12:46] <keegan_> Is a P3 866MHz/512MBs of RAM/GeForce 5200 good enough to run XGL?
[12:46] <sethk> sjoerd, I'll see if I can find the specifics of the form factors for that kind of chassis
[12:47] <Jack_Smirnoff> keegan_: Marginal
[12:47] <Sjoerd-> Jack_Smirnoff: I have, all I found was a really exspensive setup with a supermicro motherboard for amd opteron
[12:47] <Jack_Smirnoff> sjoerd: what mb did you want?
[12:47] <keegan_> I tried to run XGL but everytime I do it never lets me log in, it always goes back to the GDM when I try to go the XGL session
[12:48] <Sjoerd-> Jack_Smirnoff: I haven't been able to choose one yet, because I have no idea which ones fit and which don't :)
[12:48] <jtkiefer> Is there an advantage in NFS vs SMB in terms of sharing?
[12:48] <Jack_Smirnoff> sjbrown: http://www.pricewatch.com/barebones/
[12:49] <Sjoerd-> thanks
[12:49] <Jack_Smirnoff> np
[12:49] <Sjoerd-> these are all barebones
[12:49] <SupermanJnr> I want to restart downloading a torrent which is half completed, but I can't seem to get Bittorrent to pick up that fact that it has already got a save location with half completed files in it?  Is there anything I can do?
[12:49] <Jack_Smirnoff> sjbrown: You dont need to get it from them.. but you will get a better idea of waht works together
[12:49] <Captain_Redbeard> Hmmm quick question... where is the splashscreen during boot-up set? what is it that controls it?
[12:49] <Jack_Smirnoff> sjbrown: yes, those are all barebones...
[12:50] <RPG_gaim> Hi, where could I find the logfile or the output of the X Window ServeR?
[12:50] <Jack_Smirnoff> !usplash
[12:50] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[12:50] <Captain_Redbeard> Jack_Smirnoff: thanks man
[12:50] <Jack_Smirnoff> np
[12:51] <Sjoerd-> Jack_Smirnoff: I was more like looking for a 19" 1U server case like the one from Supermicro I linked
[12:51] <SupermanJnr> any ideas on Bittorrent people?
[12:51] <Silenced> kino dosn't work anyone else know of a program for joining mpegs and avi files that have been split
[12:51] <Jack_Smirnoff> sjbrown: You can do a search from their main page to see what is available... it pulls from hundreds of vendors..
[12:52] <RPG_gaim> Silenced: If the files are directly split, you can use the "join" command line tool to join them
[12:52] <RPG_gaim> if they are 2 different MPEG's, "join" won't work
[12:52] <Silenced> RPG_gaim, cool I'll try that
[12:52] <Silenced> its all one file thats been split into pieces
[12:53] <SupermanJnr> where can I find the best help for Bittorrent?
[12:53] <rmd> i am trying to begin using SQL, which Ubuntu package should I look for?  There are quite a few when I search synaptic for SQL...
[12:53] <iqon> rmd, mysql
[12:53] <rmd> wow.  easy enough.
[12:53] <rmd> client and server, i'm guessing?
[12:53] <RPG_gaim> Is there an IRC channel devoted to the X Window Server? It sure wasn't #x :)
[12:53] <motin_> how do i run a program from root-terminal as another user?
[12:54] <RPG_gaim> motin_: su to root, then type "su username"
[12:54] <ladydoor> motin_: su username
[12:54] <iqon> rmd, mysql-client, mysql-server
[12:54] <motin_> RPG_gaim: i need it to go back to the superuser after that command. it is a script run by root
[12:54] <sphivo> RPG_gaim: Check out #xorg, or #freedesktop
[12:55] <ArrenLex> su username -c "command"
[12:55] <GiGaHuRtZ> Where can I obtain the latest ubuntu patched kernel sources?  I'm not having any luck finding them
[12:55] <sivik> !ntp
[12:55] <ubotu> ntp: Network Time Protocol: network utilities. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2.0a+stable-8.1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 250 kB, installed size 464 kB
[12:55] <SupermanJnr> How do I force Bittorrent to complete a half downloaded set of files?  I can't get the save location to match the existing one
[12:55] <motin_> ArrenLex: great, thanks!
[12:56] <Jack_Smirnoff> !kernel-source
[12:56] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[12:56] <GiGaHuRtZ> Jack_Smirnoff, no I dont want a package, I want straight source, I'm not using it for ubuntu
[12:56] <mick> i installed drivers for my ati 9800 and everything went well, except now it is still using the mesa drivers so any xgl chops really bad. i have tried a few different howto's from the forums, but i am not having any luck(anytime i change the driver to ati and reboot i only get a black screen instead of the gdm)
[12:56] <ArrenLex> SupermanJnr, are you using the bittorrentgui front end?
[12:56] <erUSUL> !kernel > GiGaHuRtZ
[12:56] <lupine_85> Jack_Smirnoff: then www.kernel.org
[12:56] <Jack_Smirnoff> lupine_85: Not for me..  :)
[12:57] <lupine_85> erm, GiGaHuRtZ, rather :)
[12:57] <SupermanJnr> yes, just standard Bittorrent that comes with Ubuntu
[12:57] <GiGaHuRtZ> sigh
[12:57] <erUSUL> !kernel
[12:57] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:57] <GiGaHuRtZ> I want the ubuntu patches included in the source
[12:57] <lupine_85> ...then download the source package...
[12:57] <printk> GiGaHuRtZ: you will if you follow that link that ubotu told ya
[12:57] <erUSUL> GiGaHuRtZ: i told twice to go to  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:57] <ladydoor> lupine_85: can a pirate linux kernel exist? it seems that one cannot pirate free software
[12:57] <lupine_85> you can even update it with the git tree
[12:57] <fishy> If I resize a partition, will it delete the data on the partition?
[12:57] <erUSUL> GiGaHuRtZ: there you find where to get ubuntu kernel
[12:57] <edison_> ./ubuntu-es
[12:57] <lupine_85> ladydoor: read the 2.6.18 changelog... (just the top bit, never fear! :) )
[12:58] <fishy> tell edison about ubuntu-es
[12:58] <GiGaHuRtZ> erUSUL, i know i was refering to the other guy who said get vanilla sources from kernel.org ;)
[12:58] <ArrenLex> fishy: depends on the tool you use.
[12:58] <Jack_Smirnoff> fishy: If there isnt enough room .. something is gonna give
[12:58] <GiGaHuRtZ> Obviously that is not what I am looking for
[12:58] <stewski> anyone using listen?
[12:58] <ladydoor> lupine_85: errrr...i don't believe i have that kernel. are you saying that linux is going closed-source or something?
[12:58] <keegan_> Is Compiz-Manager A MUST when installing XGL/Compiz?
[12:58] <ladydoor> lupine_85: because that wouldn't make sense
[12:58] <lupine_85> ladydoor: no. 1 second...
[12:59] <sivik> ok, how do i do a time update with ntp?
[12:59] <fishy> Jack_Smirnoff and ArrenLex: I'm using GPartEd, and I'm just resizing to make my Windows partition bigger than my Ubuntu partition - they both have about 8GB of free space each.
[12:59] <lupine_85> ladydoor: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.18
[12:59] <czer323> Keegan> when you say MUST, do you mean is it going to make the experience 10x better?  Then yes.
[12:59] <erUSUL> sivik: sudo ntpdate hora.rediris.es
[12:59] <sivik> thats right
[12:59] <ArrenLex> fishy: gparted is non-destructive. You won't lose data unless something screws up.
[01:00] <Jack_Smirnoff> fishy: The best advice I can give...get a bigger drive...
[01:00] <stewski> no one using listen for music playpack on gnome?
[01:00] <sphivo> GiGaHuRtZ: apt-get source linux-image-2.6.17-7-generic
[01:00] <sys6656> listen?
[01:00] <ladydoor> lupine_85: lol. that's funny
[01:00] <stewski> back even?
[01:00] <Jack_Smirnoff> !listen
[01:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about listen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <fishy> Jack_Smirnoff: Would you be able to provide one? ;)
[01:01] <Jack_Smirnoff> not in the repos..
[01:01] <GiGaHuRtZ> sphivo, not even close to what i need, anyways I got it
[01:01] <finalbeta_> stewski, automatix installed that I believe, so I think some do use it.
[01:01] <Jack_Smirnoff> this box has a pair or 400gig drives...
[01:01] <Neo8750> can i have one
[01:01] <lupine_85> sphivo: s/he'd be better with the git tree
[01:01] <stewski> http://listengnome.free.fr/ <-- decent music player but concerns about where its getting its artwork from (amazon?)
[01:01] <czer323> stewski> Does it support Gnome-vfs?
[01:01] <knixtech> what can i use on ubuntu-server to download in the terminal?
[01:02] <Jack_Smirnoff> Automatix is Awful
[01:02] <RPG_gaim> knixtech: wget
[01:02] <ladydoor> knixtech: curl, wget
[01:02] <thread> this is unbelievable.. I can't seem to get windows xp and ubuntu dualbooting on this machine!
[01:02] <knixtech> ty
[01:02] <sphivo> GiGaHuRtZ, lupine_85: Figured he wanted the source+patches as shipped by Ubuntu, wasn't aware of the Ubuntu git tree (not to mention I forgot I wasn't in #ubuntu+1)
[01:02] <sivik> thread: why not?
[01:02] <Jack_Smirnoff> thread: Is windows on the first partition of the first drive
[01:02] <stewski> not sure if it supports gnome fs is that a file system thang?
[01:02] <thread> who has some instructions? I swear I know what I'm doing
[01:02] <knixtech> RPG_gaim, so how do i use wget?
[01:02] <synjet> thread: when it asked where you want to install grub, sis you specify MBR?
[01:02] <stewski> vfs
[01:03] <thread> Jack_Smirnoff: yes.. because I'm trying to do it that way from the start
[01:03] <lupine_85> np :)
[01:03] <Jack_Smirnoff> thread: two drives or one.
[01:03] <thread> just one
[01:03] <Jack_Smirnoff> !grub
[01:03] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:03] <GiGaHuRtZ> sphivo, basically I want to look at some of ubuntus patches for ipw3945 and try to use the ubuntu source in gentoo :)
[01:03] <stewski> 2 drives are always better than one
[01:03] <czer323> stewski> it's something that allows me to specify a samba server and when i open something, i can tell it to look for that samba drive.  It just makes my life easier and I've been looking for a player that supports it.
[01:03] <Jack_Smirnoff> thread: and the problem you are having is..?
[01:03] <illusina> alright...I have dual monitors and tried to adjust the resolution but now I have two very small resolutions where when I move my mouse to the end of the window it changes which part of the desktop I can see. As far as I can tell, I've dropped to like 800x600 whereas my desktop is up at say 1024x768. Anyone know where to look for a solution to this one?
[01:04] <sivik> illusina, what kind of video card
[01:04] <knixtech> srry i meant, what can i use in terminal to browse the net?
[01:04] <thread> the windows xp install sees a 131,072 Mb partition as "C: Partition1" ... when I install onto it, my partition table gets completely messed up, Bootup says "A Disk Read Error Occurred. Press CTRL+ALT+DEL to restart". fdisk was reporting one of the part's was of a novell type! Even after wiping my partition table, and restoring it with testdisk (part table once again looks fine), it still has the same problem.
[01:04] <illusina> radeo x800
[01:04] <stewski> not played czer323 but sounds interesting
[01:04] <thread> http://threadbox.net/fdisk.txt
[01:04] <sivik> thread: are you installing windows last or linux last?
[01:04] <^Ocean^> okay, whats the best uptodate compiz how-to ?
[01:04] <illusina> sivik: radeon x800*
[01:04] <thread> sivik: I've tried both..
[01:04] <sivik> thread: grub or lilo?
[01:04] <sivik> thread: you have to do linux last
[01:04] <ladydoor> knixtech: elinks/links/lynx, w3m
[01:04] <thread> sivik: grub, of course
[01:05] <sivik> thread: and install the grub on the mbr
[01:05] <ladydoor> knixtech: you might also check out surfraw for web searches
[01:05] <knixtech> ty
[01:05] <thread> does the windows install absolutely have to blow away the entire drive?
[01:05] <knixtech> ladydoor, is this ok to use on server?
[01:05] <Jack_Smirnoff> thread: no
[01:05] <sivik> thread: no
[01:05] <czer323> stewski> it's a bit of a pain in the but because it requires other programs to have been compiled with the gnome-vfs library.  I really need to find a good way to stream audio from a media center.
[01:05] <thread> and I just have to tell it to install on the first 8Gb in the installer
[01:05] <stewski> listen is a more fully feature music player (a bit like amaork or itunes) but Ive concerns, its not in the usual repos
[01:05] <ladydoor> knixtech: i don't have a server. why wouldn't it be?
[01:05] <knixtech> not sure
[01:05] <sivik> illusina, welcome to the world of ati and unsupported linux drivers
[01:06] <thread> basically, right now I have windows on the first partition, and linux on the second... just as you can see from http://threadbox.net/fdisk.txt
[01:06] <illusina> sivik: anything beyond that? :P
[01:06] <thread> 3 swap, 4 /home
[01:06] <Jack_Smirnoff> thread: Yes, I saw that
[01:06] <stewski> I thought rythmbox would let you stream from a media server but Im not doing that
[01:06] <thread> can
[01:06] <sivik> illusinae: not sure
[01:06] <Jack_Smirnoff> thread: You have any working os yet?
[01:06] <synjet> stewski: I think vlc allows streaming
[01:07] <stewski> yeah vlc is all about that
[01:07] <sivik> thread, what does your menu.lst look like
[01:07] <thread> I was able to boot windows for the first time... then after that it gives me a bsod every time
[01:07] <illusina> sivik: you know of the problem I desribe, right? where you move your mouse to the edge of the screen and it moves the desktop, right?
[01:07] <sivik> illusina: i understand how multiply monitors work
[01:07] <stewski> but its not the tidest client around
[01:07] <Jack_Smirnoff> thread: so no working os atm
[01:07] <stewski> great media player though
[01:07] <thread> I haven't reinstalled grub yet... cuz the last thing I did was install windows on exactly the first 8192 Mb. It blew away the rest of my partitions, but I restored them with testdisk!
[01:08] <czer323> Rythmbox seems uh... not as featured as some others.  What I'd really like is for Audacious to have better gnome integration.  Nice old-skool winamp interface.  I'm not a fan of the new iTunes look.
[01:08] <stewski> also ogg is amazing
[01:08] <illusina> sivik: do you know what it's called perhaps so I can google better?
[01:08] <thread> no, I'm about to boot ubuntu and try and try and mount my root fs and install grub
[01:08] <sivik> thread: go back and install windows first, and then install linux, grub should regonize the windows partation when you install ubuntu
[01:08] <thread> ogg ftw!
[01:08] <synjet> illusina: apt-get install synergy2
[01:08] <Jack_Smirnoff> thread: I would boot a window cd into recovery mode and fdisk /mbr to make sure you get a working windows install
[01:08] <stewski> well listen is tightly gnome integrated and although its itunes esq the wiki and lyrics functions are inspired
[01:08] <czer323> !resetpassword
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resetpassword - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:09] <finalbeta_> You should check out songbird , a new media player with library. It's alfa code, but moving along nicly.
[01:09] <sivik> thread: as long as you don't format the drives when you go to install linux
[01:09] <synjet> illusina: if you want to use same keyboard and mouse for 2 monitors?
[01:09] <thread> sivik: I did this. and I think it might have been working when windows booted up (from grub), but I had to kill it in mid boot -- didn't mean to boot windows and I don't treat windows well :)
[01:09] <stewski> yeah songbirds got a mozilla background too
[01:09] <illusina> synjet: well, I already have it setup via the normal x.org configs, but I just used my ATI panel to update the res and now it's exploded
[01:09] <Jack_Smirnoff> thread: after that you can fix Ubuntu
[01:09] <stewski> but its very green
[01:09] <sivik> thread: so why do you need it installed on your computer?
[01:09] <thread> the other thing is that I've already migrated like 400+Gs onto this 500G drive thinking that everything was working
[01:09] <thread> heh heh
[01:10] <sivik> thread: if you don't like windows, why do you need it installed
[01:10] <stewski> how good is the new ntfs support?
[01:10] <illusina> synjet: not over multiple systems, just multiple monitors of the same system, it appears my ATi card is a POS on this box because of the drivers
[01:10] <Jack_Smirnoff> not safe
[01:10] <thread> windows? cuz I got a new toy that requires it. I'm an osx user now, but I was windows free with linux for many years before this.
[01:10] <pty> czer323: have you used quod libet ?
[01:10] <sivik> illusina: ati and linux don't interact very well
[01:10] <synjet> illusina: oh sorry, I never played with ATI
[01:10] <Jack_Smirnoff> read has always been fine.. I assume you meant write support
[01:10] <czer323> pty> I have not, but I'll give it a spin.
[01:10] <stewski> Ive got windows in a vmware virtual machine (best place for it :-)
[01:11] <illusina> irc is probably the most efficient large chatroom platform...
[01:11] <illusina> it's really quite efficient
[01:11] <pty> czer323: i'd try the up-to-date one on their site (http://www.sacredchao.net/quodlibet); the one in the dapper repos is a bit old
[01:12] <Jack_Smirnoff> Insane... but efficient
[01:12] <sorush20> !pass
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pass - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <vlt> Hello. I just changed partition /dev/hda2 to an extended one: Now I want to activate swap space on the new /dev/hda5, but I get "No such file or directory" while `fdisk -l` shows me the correct partitions. How can I activate the new partition layout?
[01:12] <sorush20> how do I make my password the same as root password?
[01:12] <bruenig> sorush20, ubuntu doesn't have a root password
[01:12] <Jack_Smirnoff> !root
[01:12] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:13] <vlt> sorush20, You can edit /etc/passwd or /etc/shadow and set your pw to the same hash as root's.
[01:13] <synjet> !passwd>sorush20
[01:13] <brian98> sorush20 passwd uname password
[01:13] <thenetduck> i need some help mounting my hard drive anyone up for it?
[01:13] <syllogism> Is there anyone in here that regularly needs programming work done? - Even if you don't have an opening at this time, I would really like to send you my resume for the future
[01:13] <Jack_Smirnoff> thenetduck: what format is the drive
[01:13] <bruenig> spamming...
[01:14] <thenetduck> ext3 Jack_Smirnoff
[01:14] <sivik> syllogism: have you tried searching on pscode.com
[01:14] <erUSUL> vlt: add the apropiate line to fstab
[01:14] <Jack_Smirnoff> agreed
[01:14] <ladydoor> syllogism: #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:14] <syllogism> sivik, I haven't heard of pscode - I will try it, thank you
[01:14] <sivik> syllogism, its planetsourcecode, its really nice
[01:14] <thenetduck> Jack_Smirnoff it should be a quick helping session :)
[01:14] <stewski> yo need to edit /etc/fstab thenetduck?
[01:14] <thenetduck> stewski I did that
[01:14] <Jack_Smirnoff> ladydoor:  erUSUL  In case you had not figured it out... Sparrow here.. just on a client XP box
[01:14] <stewski> whats wrong then?
[01:14] <thenetduck> stewski its still givng me hickups or somthing
[01:15] <teenprogrammer> hi
[01:15] <vlt> erUSUL, Yes, I changed hda2 to hda5 but on `swapon -a` I get the error msg "No such file or directory"
[01:15] <tolkan> is anyone here familiar with the python impelmentation for ubuntu?
[01:15] <ladydoor> Jack_Smirnoff: hiya
[01:15] <stewski> is it a user permission problem?
[01:15] <thenetduck> stewski it wont moutn...
[01:15] <teenprogrammer> hi
[01:15] <thenetduck> stewski i think it might be
[01:15] <stewski> have you resatrted since or used the mount -a command?
[01:15] <thenetduck> stewski no do i need to?
[01:16] <Jack_Smirnoff> thenetduck: sounds like you need to edit your /etc/pmount. argh
[01:16] <teenprogrammer> Anyone on that helped me earlier?
[01:16] <bruenig> teenprogrammer, what is the issue
[01:16] <thenetduck> Jack_Smirnoff ok how do i do that? Do you wanna paste bin it?
[01:16] <Jack_Smirnoff> someone remember the file extension he would edit?
[01:16] <stewski> you need to edit /etc/fstab to reflect what you want mounted (which can be a little tricky) then you need to issue the mount-a command to make it so (as they say
[01:17] <Jack_Smirnoff> Im not on my pc or I could link it for you.
[01:17] <bruenig> )
[01:17] <decherdt> .allow
[01:17] <bruenig> what file is it?
[01:17] <teenprogrammer> bruenig, I tried to update my Ati Video Card Drivers, and i went though all the steps using some console thing. So after I configure my settings and all. When i boot, i hear ubuntu loading, but the screen gets an error
[01:17] <bruenig> hear?
[01:17] <Jack_Smirnoff> stewski: sometimes you need to edit a file to let it mount correctly especially when mixing ide and sata drives/interfaces..
[01:18] <bruenig> oh you must mean system sounds
[01:18] <Jack_Smirnoff> look at etc/pmount. something and tell me the file extensions
[01:18] <stewski> well star simple and work upwards
[01:18] <bruenig> teenprogrammer, did you back up your previous set up. If so you can just go into console and just revert
[01:18] <stewski> duck have you edited fstab?
[01:18] <Crescendo_> Does Nvu have a channel on Freenode?
[01:19] <synjet> /etc/pmount.allow ?
[01:19] <thenetduck> Jack_Smirnoff
[01:19] <thenetduck> # /etc/pmount.allow
[01:19] <thenetduck> # pmount will allow users to additionally mount all devices that are
[01:19] <thenetduck> # listed here.
[01:19] <teenprogrammer> bruenig, I did. And it worked. But i want to get my graphics card working properly so i can attempt to install the 3D desktop thing O_o
[01:19] <ladydoor> !paste
[01:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:19] <Jack_Smirnoff> etc/pmount.allow
[01:20] <Jack_Smirnoff> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:20] <bruenig> teenprogrammer, well if it didn't work, it is probably best to revert and try again.
[01:20] <bruenig> the cube will wait for you
[01:20] <stewski> http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html <-- for correctly editing fstab
[01:20] <vlt> Hello. I just changed partition /dev/hda2 to an extended one: Now I want to activate swap space on the new /dev/hda5, but I get "No such file or directory" while `fdisk -l` shows me the correct partitions. How can I activate the new partition layout?
[01:20] <Falcongrinder> anyone else have problems getting ark (.rar extracter) working?
[01:20] <teenprogrammer> bruenig, I have twice :'( and i dont quite see what i am doing wrong
[01:20] <bruenig> teenprogrammer, try another guide. Maybe the one you are using is wrong
[01:20] <stewski> duck what type of file system do you want to mount?
[01:21] <Jack_Smirnoff> stewski: it was ext3 and it didnt want to mount normally
[01:21] <saxton> is there an easy way to enable the CUPs web interface?
[01:21] <Jack_Smirnoff> !cups
[01:21] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:21] <DokGonzo> !ask
[01:21] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:21] <stewski> well then mounting windows file systems isn't the right link...
[01:21] <^Ocean^> How do i install the csm package ?
[01:21] <Jack_Smirnoff> TIme for me to get back to work...  Play Nice
[01:22] <znull> why vmware is not working with the lasted kernel from dapper ?
[01:22] <bruenig> ^Ocean^, what is csm?
[01:22] <^Ocean^> bruenig, part of Compiz
[01:22] <synjet> vlt: hmmn, cude way: use install CD and go till drives, and specify the drive for swap, and leave rest AS they are?
[01:22] <DokGonzo> Hi guys, need some help - how do I change boot priority in Grub boot loader? I want Windows to be the first on the list, so they automatically load if i don't touch anything at boot up?
[01:22] <stewski> did you get my link duck
[01:22] <synjet> vlt: *crude way
[01:22] <bruenig> ^Ocean^, go to #ubuntu-xgl
[01:22] <Falcongrinder> anyone use ark?
[01:23] <synjet> Falcongrinder: for untarring/unzipping
[01:23] <bruenig> DokGonzo, change the order in the menu.lst
[01:23] <vlt> synjet, wtf?!?
[01:23] <Falcongrinder> thats it synjet
[01:23] <stewski> use sudo gedit /etc/fstab to edit the fstab file correctly
[01:23] <bruenig> DokGonzo, it is located in /boot/grub/menu.lst. Just cut and paste the entire windows entry over the Linux Entry.
[01:23] <knixtech> were should i put a wordpress folder to run in ubuntu?
[01:24] <yannick> Hello, I'm new to ubuntu and I've got a sound problem. Anybody can help?
[01:24] <Crescendo_> Does Nvu have a channel on Freenode?
[01:24] <illusina> !ask
[01:24] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:24] <DokGonzo> ok, will try that... is there a chance of a f***-up?
[01:24] <bruenig> Crescendo_, check the channel list. I didn't see one
[01:24] <tom_> can I ask if I can ask a question?
[01:24] <stewski> ubotu is a bot with humor I like that
[01:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot with humor I like that - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:24] <Crescendo_> Yeah, I did, did a full search and didn't see but one channel.
[01:24] <Crescendo_> That wasn't actually about Ubuntu.
[01:24] <synjet> Crescendo: http://www.nvu.com/chat.php
[01:24] <bruenig> DokGonzo, not really. Make sure you get the whole windows entry though. The stuff underneath it and everything.
[01:25] <Jack_Smirnoff> stewski: that link covers more than just mounting a windows partition...
[01:25] <synjet> Crescendo: it is there on their page
[01:25] <DokGonzo> ok, thnx, will report back if something goes wrong.
[01:25] <saxton> (the automated CUPS response from the bot was not useful; this is on a headless server and the only way I have of configuring printers is via the web interface, that ubuntu helpfully disabled by default)
[01:25] <synjet> Falcongrinder: so what was your q about?
[01:25] <stewski> OK jack seemed like it would only be fat/ntfs
[01:26] <teenprogrammer> bruenig, I tried one that had me install the xorg something or other. . . . sound farmiliar?
[01:26] <Jack_Smirnoff> stewski: If you have a stubborn partition that wont mount even though the fstab is correct... edit the pmount.allow and add it in there...
[01:26] <_mason> Ohh Jesus!, How Do I Recover An Ext3 Hard Drive From A Failed Resize Using Gparted?
[01:26] <Crescendo_> synjet, there isn't a SINGLE person in that room, wow.
[01:26] <_mason> I have just lost 110gb of important company data
[01:26] <yannick> Ok, there is quite a bit action here! ;o) I've got two sound output: one in front of my box and the other one on the back. Moving from Mandriva, it's now working only on the front. What should I do?
[01:26] <synjet> Crescendo: it is free :) patience
[01:26] <teenprogrammer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-b54fa0658461482e9306aad82820d66c1c4eb044
[01:26] <Jack_Smirnoff> _mason: did you try to resize a mounted partition..?
[01:27] <Jack_Smirnoff> gotta run.. Play Nice
[01:27] <synjet> Crescendo: is it the frequent crash probs?
[01:27] <_mason> Jack_Smirnoff, In gparted i unmounted it ?
[01:27] <stewski> I've not come across the issue, but from my days in support your assuming the user has tried the obvious (always a step too soon)
[01:27] <_mason> it wouldnt let me do it otherwise
[01:27] <knixtech> how do i copy all the contents in the folder and copy then to the parent dir?
[01:28] <_mason> Jack_Smirnoff: Is there an application that will atleast let me view and backup all my data to a temp location!?
[01:28] <synjet> knixtech: sudo mv oldfolder newfolder
[01:28] <ladydoor> knixtech: cp * ..
[01:28] <Jack_Smirnoff> stewski: Am I wrong in assuming Ubuntu mounts ext3 by default?
[01:28] <vlt> I created a new partition /dev/hda5 but I get "No such file or directory" on `ls /dev/hda5`. Why?
[01:29] <stewski> jack yes you are
[01:29] <stewski> It mounts all ext3 created at install
[01:29] <ladydoor> knixtech: actually...are you going to want them to remain in sync with each other?
[01:29] <ladydoor> knixtech: i.e., are you going to want the copies to *remain* identical to the originals?
[01:29] <_mason> Anyone I need to recover this data on my ext3 Drive?
[01:29] <Jack_Smirnoff> stewski: Then that must be where I wrongly assumed it mounted all of them.. thanks
[01:30] <_mason> Neeed To
[01:30] <knixtech> ladydoor, i got it, ty , the cp * -R worked
[01:30] <jUggERNAUt1980> good morning!
[01:30] <synjet> knixtech, ladydoor: sorry, did not know you had something in continuation
[01:30] <knixtech> ^_^
[01:30] <stewski> I've got an old install on a second drive and it doesnt auto mount them
[01:30] <jUggERNAUt1980> XD  O.o
[01:30] <knixtech> synacktion, quite ok bud, ty
[01:30] <ladydoor> knixtech: cool.
[01:30] <knixtech> synjet, quite ok dude, ty for the help
[01:31] <eternalswd> how do I pipe debug output from a gui program to a file?
[01:31] <tyler-wylie> In ubuntu where is the configuration file for module loading at boot?
[01:31] <jUggERNAUt1980> trouble in the motherland here.  :)
[01:31] <jordan_> Is Grub install on mactels supposed to be fixed yet in edgy? I am not sure wether or not to file a bug report ( it failed ).
[01:31] <jUggERNAUt1980> bonjour!  comment ca va?
[01:31] <ladydoor> !fr
[01:31] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:31] <jUggERNAUt1980> Oye!  Como estas?
[01:31] <rmd_> why can't i run mysql w/o sudo?  i've added my user to the mysql group...
[01:32] <jrib> jUggERNAUt1980: pick a language (if you wan't to stay here, english only) :)
[01:32] <jUggERNAUt1980> so anyway, enough horsing around, i do have a serious question if anybody could help me.
[01:32] <jrib> !ask
[01:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:32] <stewski> whats that jugg
[01:32] <_mason> rmd_ did you    $ mysql -u username
[01:32] <jUggERNAUt1980> thanks jrib
[01:33] <saxton> if the cups web interface can't be re-enabled, does anyone know how to cancel a print job?
[01:33] <eternalswd> rmd_, what are the permissions on the executable?
[01:33] <rmd_> yeah, it says access is denied for user and something about using password: yes
[01:33] <Tennessee> I have a standalone Tkinter application. I want a broswer widget. How?
[01:33] <jUggERNAUt1980> can anybody point me to where i can download an alternate install cd for ubuntu?  i have a lappy here i want to install it on and apparently it doesn't have enough ram for the livecd
[01:34] <vlt> I created a new partition /dev/hda5 but I get "No such file or directory" on `ls /dev/hda5`. How can I access that new partition?
[01:34] <rmd_> eternalswd: owner/group root, read/executable by all
[01:34] <bruenig> jUggERNAUt1980, ubuntu.com
[01:34] <bimberi> saxton: is there a printer icon in the System Tray?  If so you can cancel from there
[01:34] <Tennessee> juggernaut: what's wrong with the install cd from the website?
[01:34] <rmd_> eternalswd: only writeable by owner
[01:34] <saxton> bimberi: sorry, should have said - this is a headless server, so needs to be from commandline
[01:34] <sklav> hey guys what is the best way to configure the Xdisplay?
[01:34] <bimberi> saxton: ah :)
[01:34] <bimberi> ubotu tell saxton about cupsweb
[01:35] <eternalswd> rwd_, okay that should be fine, but have you added your user to the mysql database?
[01:35] <stewski> sklav can of worms = open :-)
[01:35] <hondje> sklav: either editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand or running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:35] <jordan_> jUggERNAUt1980, http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso
[01:35] <jUggERNAUt1980> i searched the site for the alternate install and couldn't find a link for download
[01:35] <rmd_> according to the mysql tutorial i made a new one and added the user to it.
[01:35] <hondje> unless you mena like, $DISPLAY hehe
[01:35] <sklav> the reason why im asking is i have an nvidia card and the detection after a clean install has configured it as an ATI
[01:35] <rmd_> hmm
[01:35] <rmd_> it didn't make the database
[01:36] <rmd_> probably the problem
[01:36] <rmd_> durrrr
[01:36] <stewski> sklav hae you downloaded an nvidia driver?
[01:36] <jrib> jUggERNAUt1980: it's on the download page, there is a long list of files below the pretty icons.  It lists the alternate install cd there
[01:36] <saxton> bimberi: thanks that works :)
[01:36] <sklav> stewski: yes i have
[01:36] <sklav> and its running
[01:36] <sklav> i just want to fine tune my X display
[01:37] <stewski> in what way - resolution or performance
[01:37] <synjet> sklav: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf but do NOT forget to make a backup copy
[01:37] <sklav> instead of 1024x768 i want 1280x1024
[01:37] <stewski> cd /ect/X11
[01:37] <noriega> how do I get programs to autostart when ubuntu starts?
[01:38] <rmd_> eternalswd: thanks for making me less stupider
[01:38] <chaos> Hey, I have an fstab entry for an smb mount that wont mount on boot. I can mount from terminal
[01:38] <chaos> any ideas?
[01:38] <tyler-wylie> okay so out of all the ubuntu XGL howtos, which would be the best to follow for an ati card, half the ones I've tried fail on apt-get because of some wierd reason
[01:38] <ACU> Have proftp installed but I do not know where is the folder where I can drop the files (or how to access the ftp server) and how would know what ftp servers I have installed\
[01:38] <knixtech> ladydoor, synjet the problem was i rm -R my htdocs folder on my suse server,  that deleted everything :(  so now i am teaching myself how to use the ubuntu server
[01:39] <jordan_> sklav, you may not be able to get a higher resolution without the proprietary nvidea drivers installed.
[01:39] <cdavis> how do I change the default kernel in grub?
[01:39] <cdavis> I cannot find grub.conf
[01:39] <jUggERNAUt1980> the reason i need it is that the video ram is shared on the toshiba satellite and it only registers 190mb ram, apparently the livecd needs 192?
[01:39] <stewski> sklav can you not choose that mode from system>preferences>screen resolution ?
[01:39] <sklav> i have nvidia drivers installed and working
[01:39] <jordan_> jUggERNAUt1980, http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso
[01:39] <sklav> stewski: no it maxed at 1024x768
[01:39] <jUggERNAUt1980> thanks jordan!  i'll try that one.
[01:39] <sklav> but this montior used to work at 1280x1024
[01:39] <synjet> noriega: preferences-> sessions
[01:39] <sklav> before i reinstalled
[01:39] <noriega> oh
[01:39] <noriega> thanks
[01:40] <sklav> nvidia drivers are installed and im running Xgl
[01:40] <eternalswd> rmd_ , if there's have a problem with anything in this world, there's usually two options.  Either you did something stupid, or someone else did.  It happens to everyone, but we all press on.
[01:40] <stewski> well in my case I added the following into my xorg.conf file
[01:40] <stewski> inside section "screen"
[01:40] <sklav> tyler-wylie: do a search on wiki.ubuntu.com for Xgl or aixgl
[01:41] <sklav> follow the ati steps
[01:41] <stewski> modes
[01:41] <stewski> SubSection "Display"
[01:41] <stewski> 		Depth		1
[01:41] <stewski> 		Modes		"1920x1440" "1920x1200" "1856x1392" "1792x1344" "1680x1050" "1600x1200" "1440x900" "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1280x854" "1280x800" "1280x768" "1200x800" "1152x864" "1152x768" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[01:41] <stewski> 	EndSubSection
[01:41] <chaos> Hey, I have an fstab entry for an smb mount that wont mount on boot. I can mount from terminal
[01:41] <synjet> knixtech: oh there have been cases where ppl rm -rf / :)
[01:41] <gizmoinlove725> please does anyone have the key mapping config file for the A4Tech KBS 26 keyboard ?
[01:41] <chaos> lol, he only needs the mode he wants
[01:41] <stewski> to acommodate my widey
[01:41] <knixtech> lol
[01:41] <ACU> Can anyone help with ftp?
[01:42] <stewski> add in the mode you want and restart the x server cntrl alt backspace then type start x
[01:42] <synjet> ACU: shoot, someone will try
[01:42] <gizmoinlove725> please does anyone have the key mapping config file for the A4Tech KBS 26 keyboard ?
[01:43] <stewski> sorry dont forget to add the list of modes to all possible colour depths
[01:43] <gizmoinlove725> please does anyone have the key mapping config file for the A4Tech KBS 26 keyboard ?
[01:43] <KewlLeetK> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000  11111OneOneOne!(){}] [#@~^&*)()%$^"$!"
[01:43] <gizmoinlove725> okay i give up
[01:44] <tyler-wylie> sklav, with the open source radeon drivers what do you suggest, AIGLX or XGL?
[01:44] <bleech> does anyone know how to set the color depth to 8-bit for vnc (remote desktop)?
[01:45] <Jack_Smirnoff> tyler-wylie: Did you by chance make the mistake of trying Automatix
[01:45] <vecnah> can you give me a reason to change my fedora for an ubuntu?
[01:45] <sivik> vecnah, its by choice, no one is forcing you to do it
[01:45] <TigerCR1200> ubuntu is cooler?
[01:45] <jrib> vecnah: use what you like to use more, try a livecd out and see if oyu like it
[01:45] <decherdt> rpm vs apt-get
[01:45] <sivik> vecnah, why don't you try a live cd for ubuntu and see if you like it
[01:45] <vecnah> ok
[01:45] <vecnah> ty
[01:45] <jordan_> gizmoinlove725, this link may help you: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/39843-lineak.html
[01:45] <vecnah> I will
[01:45] <synjet> tyler-wylie: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RenderingProject/aiglx and known to be smooth
[01:46] <vecnah> after I finish test vista
[01:46] <sklav> tyler-wylie: i have nvidia so i cannot use aiglx i have to use xgl
[01:46] <sivik> yucky
[01:46] <sivik> everyone i know that has tested vista said it wasn't that great
[01:46] <sklav> i read for ati and intel aiglx is better
[01:46] <sklav> sivik: i tested vista and i didnt like it
[01:46] <sivik> lol
[01:47] <sklav> ps nice to meet you
[01:47] <sklav> ;)
[01:47] <stewski> Id like a look at vista
[01:47] <sivik> sklav: nice to meet you as well
[01:47] <chaos> stew, vista is buggy
[01:47] <synjet> sklav: so you own a supercomputer to have tested aero? ;)
[01:47] <stewski> but mostly Id like to run OSX on a standard PC
[01:47] <sivik> lol
[01:47] <chaos> OSX is slow
[01:47] <stewski> that said ubuntu is my first love always
[01:47] <sklav> nope just an amd 2800+ and 1 gig of ram
[01:47] <vecnah> wish you a nice ubuntu future :)
[01:47] <yaya_4321> quelqu'un parle francais?
[01:47] <jordan_> !fr
[01:47] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:48] <sklav> install takes forever and then yes its slow but like i said i didnt like it
[01:48] <chaos> Apple computers run windows XP  better than they run OSX
[01:48] <sklav> and its very buggy
[01:48] <chaos> OSX is garbage
[01:48] <sivik> lol
[01:48] <stewski> thats not true chaos
[01:48] <chaos> FreeBSD is nice too
[01:48] <stewski> although intel apple runs adobe much faster under xp at the mo
[01:49] <chaos> go edit some movies stew
[01:49] <stewski> really?
[01:49] <tyler-wylie> Jack_Smirnoff, nope
[01:49] <stewski> final cut pro doesnt run under xp
[01:49] <eternalswd> I have two nics, one connected to my isp and the other connected to a Windows XP box (I just installed that one).  Do I need an ip address for each ethernet card?  is there a good howto on this.
[01:50] <sklav> brb i need to test my display settings
[01:51] <variant> W: GPG error: http://archive.czessi.net dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A714EB87D1B1F415 how can i fix that error?
[01:51] <flaco> eternalswd: ifconfig , as root
[01:52] <eternalswd> flaco, what exactly does that do?
[01:52] <stewski> so anyone got any greatest and latest linux apps they want to mention
[01:52] <flaco> show you all networks interfaces... and their ip, gateway ,etc
[01:52] <jordan_> variant, is http://archive.czessi.net a repository you added?
[01:52] <gizmoinlove725> how to use linEAK after install jordan
[01:52] <synjet> stewski: regarding which area?
[01:53] <stewski> anyhting your loving right now
[01:53] <variant> jordan_: yeah why?
[01:53] <eternalswd> flaco, there's currently no ip address for the eth2 which is the one connected to XP, do I need to manually set that?
[01:53] <Jack_Smirnoff> sauerbraten fps
[01:53] <jordan_> gizmoinlove725, I have no idea :) that is why I said it might help.
[01:53] <czer323> Isn't there a single word command to say which video drivers are loaded?
[01:53] <variant> lsmod
[01:53] <sivik> czer323, not really
[01:53] <sivik> yeah, that too
[01:53] <variant> czer323: lsmod
[01:53] <flaco> eternalswd: u want to share the internet connection from ubuntu-pc to windwosxp-pc ?
[01:53] <torpedo|dog> Does anybody know of a Linux winhelp viewer?
[01:53] <orbin> stewski: listen/exaile
[01:54] <jordan_> variant, when you add a repository, you need to ad a security key so it can be authenticated.
[01:54] <sivik> torpedo|dog, if you find one, let me know
[01:54] <eternalswd> flaco, no, I just want to be able to access files.
[01:54] <stewski> Im using listen but concerned about where my usage data is going
[01:54] <synjet> torpedo: http://xchm.sourceforge.net/ if chm file is what you mean
[01:54] <czer323> variant> close, but no.  It showed the vendor name too.
[01:54] <stewski> ais the album art comming from amazon?
[01:54] <torpedo|dog> synjet: I don't know if CHM == HLP
[01:54] <torpedo|dog> 'tis worth a shot, eh?
[01:54] <stewski> whats exaile
[01:55] <jordan_> variant, If you found that repository in a Howto it should also tell you the key to add.
[01:55] <synjet> torpedo: some help files/e-books are in chm format..
[01:55] <orbin> stewski: another rbox alternative
[01:55] <sivik> torpedo|dog, ok, chm opens in the windows help thingy, i have been trying to find something to open those types of firles
[01:55] <flaco> eternalswd: I never had to do that without a router... but.. I think that.. the program firestarter can configure that
[01:55] <variant> jordan_: i have a ton of keys to add
[01:55] <variant> jordan_: its just a hassle to add them manualy:P
[01:55] <WrxReach> anyone know how to get my ma521 wireless pc card to work?
[01:55] <torpedo|dog> synjet: sadly enough, I
[01:56] <torpedo|dog> 'm trying to read a Windows helpfile for comedic reasons
[01:56] <variant> czer323: huh?
[01:56] <variant> czer323: what do you want exactly?
[01:56] <flaco> WrxReach: that is a netgear card?
[01:56] <gizmoinlove725> so no one has experience in mmx keyboard activationg ?
[01:56] <stewski> what about web design  anything cool in that dept
[01:56] <WrxReach> my wireless card to work
[01:56] <WrxReach> yes
[01:56] <WrxReach> it is a ma521
[01:56] <tinin> Please, when building from source ($sh ./autogen.sh) how can i do to use a newer automake version??
[01:56] <eternalswd> flaco, yeah, i'd typically use a router, but mine is at home, so I'm using a crossover cable here at school.
[01:57] <jrib> tinin: sudo update-alternatives --config automake
[01:57] <czer323> I just want to see that the drivers I installed are being used.  I just forget the command.  was hoping someone knew it.  I'll just google it up again.
[01:57] <tinin> jrib thanx, i'll try
[01:57] <WrxReach> there is a link for a linux version for the driver but it's a dead link
[01:57] <flaco> WrxReach: u try ndiswrapper ?
[01:57] <WrxReach> i havent
[01:57] <flaco> eternalswd: u check firestarter ?
[01:58] <flaco> try it
[01:58] <WrxReach> ok
[01:58] <stewski> are people actually runnign a firewall
[01:58] <variant> czer323: that command does tell you
[01:58] <eternalswd> flaco, I may have found what I need, thanks
[01:58] <synjet> stewski: firestarter
[01:58] <flaco> WrxReach: when u plug in the card... the light tilt?
[01:58] <^Ocean^> how do i re-install a package ?
[01:58] <variant> czer323: lsmod
[01:58] <flaco> eternalswd: ok :D gl
[01:58] <WrxReach> the power is on, but there isn't any link
[01:59] <stewski> yeah just wondered if it was deemed a requirement yet
[01:59] <WrxReach> obviously
[01:59] <Deton8R> I tried firestarter.  never could get it to play with wireless.
[01:59] <slavik> bow before me, for I am root :D
[01:59] <Jack_Smirnoff> !firewall
[01:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[01:59] <jrib> ^Ocean^: sudo apt-get --reinstall install package, or sudo aptitude reinstall package
[01:59] <stewski> I dislike wireless all round
[01:59] <synjet> stewski: depends.. if you are using unsecured wifi
[01:59] <Deton8R> wireless is the only way to go
[01:59] <knixtech> can someone help me get my hompage going with apache,  not used to ubuntu yet?
[01:59] <torpedo|dog> synjet: it doesn't work, but thanks for trying ;)
[01:59] <stewski> wireless is slow
[01:59] <Deton8R> anything  less is ancient
[02:00] <flaco> this is the problem of ubuntu... the ppl dont learn
[02:00] <callie> anyone here experienced at getting webcams working? im led to believe that my cam is supported by spca5xx but im still stuck. help!
[02:00] <stewski> wieless is insecure
[02:00] <Deton8R> wireless slow?  not if you know what you're doing
[02:00] <torpedo|dog> knixtech: you have all of your files ready?
[02:00] <slavik> full wifi support in Linux is like a black KKK member ... will only happen as a skit by Dave Chappelle
[02:00] <green__saotome> stewski, i beg to differ
[02:00] <cynical> not if you get a good adapter + know a few things
[02:00] <Jack_Smirnoff> !webcam
[02:00] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:00] <stewski> and wireless has yet to be proven safe
[02:00] <WrxReach> im looking at firestarter, and it says ubuntu 5.04 and im not using that version
[02:00] <variant> knixtech: put it in /var/www/sitename
[02:00] <cynical> not true
[02:00] <stewski> beg away green :-)
[02:00] <tyler-wylie> I get this error whenever I try to run Xgl, "Could not create server lock file: /tmp.X1-lock, is this something easy to fix or what?
[02:00] <Deton8R> someone needs to read some more
[02:00] <variant> knixtech: and /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[02:00] <green__saotome> stewiski, get wpa2 encryption with a respectful password, and noone can break that in this life time
[02:00] <Jack_Smirnoff> !firestarter
[02:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[02:00] <cynical> do you see any video tutorials on hacking wpa2?
[02:00] <variant> Jack_Smirnoff: we heard you the first time
[02:00] <orbin> tyler-wylie: #ubuntu-xgl
[02:01] <slavik> I am sorry if Compaq shoved bcom down my throat and locked the BIOS not to accept any other miniPCI wifi cards
[02:01] <CNote> hello, has anyone had luck with ATI drivers and the ATI Mobility Fire Gl V5200?
[02:01] <knixtech> variant, what about /etc/apache/site-available?
[02:01] <flaco> !ndiswrapper
[02:01] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:01] <knixtech> torpedo|dog, ty for the help
[02:01] <Jack_Smirnoff> Sorry I was trying to see where firestarter was... I linked firewall the fires time.. for those paying attention
[02:01] <stewski> well I may need to read more
[02:01] <Masqy> hi guys..
[02:01] <bleech> does anyone know how to set the color depth to 8-bit for vnc (remote desktop)?
[02:01] <Jack_Smirnoff> FYI I prefer guarddog
[02:01] <variant> cynical: apart from this not being the appropriate place to ask that kind of question, wpa is not at all easy or worthwhile to crack (would take far far to long unless you know exactly what your doing)
[02:01] <Deton8R> anybody heard about any progress with ebuntu?  I have something I slapped together... and it looks great, but it isn't the latest e17.....  it's an older version
[02:01] <WrxReach> does anyone play maplestory?
[02:01] <stewski> but I've worked in IT for 14 years and I dont like frog based ring tones either
[02:01] <variant> knixtech: what about it?
[02:02] <knixtech> variant, dont i hve to edit it
[02:02] <WrxReach> i cant get it to run past gameguard
[02:02] <slavik> wpa cannot be cracked unless you can capture the username/password packet in unecrypted form ...
[02:02] <bulldog> Evening, anyone running VMWare and know if VirtualPC is a good applicance? Does VMWare replace Wine for windows programs?
[02:02] <Masqy> I'm having some problems with WMaker in ubuntu.. Which font does the gnome env. uses as default? I'd like to use the terminal's font XTerm in rxvt, and I can't seem to find how to.. any experiences?
[02:02] <stewski> cracking wpa
[02:02] <variant> knixtech: possibly.. im not used ot ubuntu yet
[02:02] <slavik> one point of wpa2 is to cycle the wep key so that you can't get enough IV packets to crack it ...
[02:02] <variant> knixtech: been using gentoo for years and its different
[02:03] <knixtech> variant, ty for the honesty
[02:03] <stewski> slav that sounds really secure
[02:03] <orbin> CNote: what problems are you having?
[02:03] <torpedo|dog> Masqy: it uses DejaVu fonts
[02:03] <torpedo|dog> Sans, Serif, and Mono
[02:03] <swtaarrs> I'm trying to play a streaming mp3s with realplayer but it skips and every few seconds the player interface will freeze for 3-4 seconds. anyone know how to fix this?
[02:03] <Masqy> do you know how do I xft them?
[02:03] <WrxReach> did you figure out how to get past gameguard?
[02:03] <CNote> I found some documentation on using the fglrx driver, but when I tried that the system locked...
[02:03] <synjet> swtaarrs: streaming mp3: try xmms
[02:04] <slavik> swtaarrs: seems like realplayer is more like crapplayer imho
[02:04] <Deton8R> swtaarrs, sounds like either your system or net connection is too slow
[02:04] <stewski> A second flaw exists in the method with which WPA initializes its encryption scheme. Consequently, it's actually easier to crack WPA than it is to crack WEP. This flaw is the subject of this article.
[02:04] <slavik> anyone know of any Linux bios tools?
[02:04] <jordan_> CNote, What documentation did you use?
[02:04] <stewski> http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=369221&rl=1
[02:04] <Deton8R> mine did that...but it was an old K6 2 533
[02:04] <CNote> jordan_: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installation_instructions_for_the_ThinkPad_T60p
[02:04] <knixtech> alright, how about mysql on ubuntu-server
[02:04] <tomo666> hi iam trying to setup postfix for virtual domains, iam having trouble sending mail, when i set myhostname = localhost, i get mail returned to sender 504 not fqdn but when i set myhostname to one of my virtual domain names it will work ok. all the virtual domain names  are fqdn. how do i set myhostname to work with the virtual domains?? thx for any help
[02:05] <orbin> could we move the offtopic talk to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[02:05] <Tonren> I have a dark theme, but when I login, the background is bright blue.  Is the "default" X background controlled by my GDM login theme?
[02:05] <slavik> wpa-tkip is crackable, wpa2 with authentication isn't
[02:05] <Masqy> torpedo|dog: How can I use them in wmaker?
[02:05] <sivik> torpedo|dog, did you find something that might work
[02:05] <torpedo|dog> Masqy: I'd love to say that I have the expertise for that but I don't :(
[02:05] <WrxReach> ok, i got ndiswrapper, now what do i do
[02:05] <torpedo|dog> sivik: nope
[02:05] <orbin> Tonren: no, it's a separate setting.
[02:05] <jrib> Tonren: there is an option in system > administration > login window for the background color
[02:05] <torpedo|dog> I've been googling for a while before this
[02:05] <sivik> torpedo|dog, darn
[02:05] <knixtech> any one good with mysql?
[02:06] <WrxReach> like, how do i install it
[02:06] <Tonren> orbin: jrib: thanks dudes
[02:06] <cynical> variant: lol sorry that was sarcasm not a question. Someone was challenging the security of wireless, so I was sarcastically asking them, have you seen any videos on the internet of wpa2 being cracked? Course not, because its that secure
 wpa-tkip is crackable, wpa2 with authentication isn't - so wep wasnt crack able then it was
[02:06] <clearzen> Can I mount remote file systems using sshfs that are viewable by non-root users?
[02:06] <Masqy> torpedo|dog: 10x...
[02:06] <swtaarrs> Deton8R: there's no way either is too slow, it works fine in windows
[02:06] <sivik> WrxReach, have you tried man ndiswrapper
[02:06] <stewski> then wpa wasnt crackable then it was
[02:06] <stewski> but no no this time really
[02:06] <cynical> stewski: no they are all crackable, but right now wpa2 is new and difficult
[02:06] <slavik> stewski: wpa2 changes wep keys fairly quickly to get the new key every time
[02:06] <cynical> stewski: just like wpa and wep were long ago
[02:06] <Deton8R> here's the thing to remember about having a computer on the net, no matter what you use to connect "You can't keep us out."
[02:06] <CNote> jordan_: any thoughts on those docs?
[02:07] <stewski> indeed cynical
[02:07] <THX-1138> !eyecandy is XGL/Compiz , xcompmgr, xdesktopwaves
[02:07] <variant> cynical: are you an experienced programmer?
[02:07] <jordan_> CNote, Did you try both with and without the line "ChipID 0x71c5"?
[02:07] <stewski> but with the soup of access points and revisions of firmware please wireless is a fup
[02:07] <THX-1138> !eyecandy is also transset
[02:07] <clearzen> does anyone know how to use sshfs to mount files systems that are viewable by non-root users?
[02:07] <Deton8R> swtaarrs, it works fine in Linux too.
[02:07] <cynical> variant: nope
[02:07] <stewski> and thats without getting into the emc aspect
[02:07] <cynical> variant: I have dabbled tho :D
[02:08] <sivik> clearzen, sshfs?
[02:08] <CNote> jordan_: i tried with, I don't recall without, I am inbetween an install right now...
[02:08] <variant> cynical: get a degree in programming and cryptography then try.. :)
[02:08] <clearzen> yeah that is the command
[02:08] <sivik> clearzen, whats the difference between that and ssh?
[02:08] <variant> cynical: thats my howto :P
[02:08] <Jack_Smirnoff> Gentlemen, please take the discussion to the offtopic room.. and out of the help channel...
[02:08] <Tonren> Is there a way to disable session manager from starting ANYTHING at login except for startup programs?
[02:08] <WrxReach> sivik, i just got ndiswrapper but i'm a little confused on what to do
[02:08] <jordan_> CNote, All I can say is to try it without that line.
[02:08] <sivik> WrxReach, ndiswrapper -i driver
[02:09] <sivik> and then modprobe ndiswrapper
[02:09] <cynical> variant: there is more to it then that, any security is beatable. But for the time being its complicated and new, eventually it'll be old and effortless
[02:09] <CNote> jordan_: thanks...if that doesn't work, i'll just keep at it, thanks
[02:09] <WrxReach> in terminal>
[02:09] <sivik> and to make sure the ndiswrapper driver works, do a ndiswrapper -l
[02:09] <variant> cynical: of course
[02:09] <cynical> variant: but thanks for the advice, I plan to one day :D
[02:09] <Byan> how do I do init.d stuff?
[02:09] <Wikkedfin^> Hello i had a question, i did a fresh install of ubuntu server dapper and i cant seem to install tcl via apt-get it is for eggdrops could anyone pont me ?
[02:09] <sivik> Wikkedfin^, did you uncomment the needed repos in the sources.list file?
[02:09] <Wikkedfin^> yes
[02:09] <variant> Byan: type "/etc/init.d/servicename start/stop/etc"
[02:09] <Tonren> Also, GNOME Power Manager no longer notifies me when my battery is critical.  How do I get the popup back?
[02:10] <tomo666> hi iam trying to setup postfix for virtual domains, iam having trouble sending mail, when i set myhostname = localhost, i get mail returned to sender 504 not fqdn but when i set myhostname to one of my virtual domain names it will work ok. all the virtual domain names  are fqdn. how do i set myhostname to work with the virtual domains??
[02:10] <sivik> Wikkedfin^, did you do an apt-cache search tcl to see if you have the correct name for the package
[02:10] <Deton8R> anybody tried to compile 2.6.18 yet?
[02:10] <Byan> variant: I know that much, I should've been clearer
[02:10] <Wikkedfin^> yes
[02:10] <Byan> variant: How do I write those scripts and link them to the rc*.d stuff
[02:10] <sivik> Wikkedfin^, then whats the issue
[02:10] <Byan> or, rather, link the rc*.d stuff to them
[02:11] <variant> Byan: lol, thats a complicated question
[02:11] <WrxReach> modprobe ndiswrapper fatal error? operation not permitted?
[02:11] <Byan> variant: well, I can't seem to find any tutorials on it..
[02:11] <Wikkedfin^> Package tcl is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:11] <Wikkedfin^> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:11] <Wikkedfin^> is only available from another source
[02:11] <variant> Byan: not somthing i am capable of answering unfortunatly :) check google on tutorials for writing initscripts.. im sure there are plenty
[02:11] <vdepizzol> I tried to run the windows app of the ubuntu dapper cd, but it didn't work on windows vista rc1
[02:11] <Byan> initscripts
[02:11] <Byan> ok
[02:12] <kakado> Wikkedfin^,  do apt-get update and maybe even apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:13] <sivik> Wikkedfin^, do you find it when you run a apt-cache search tcl?
[02:13] <synjet> Wikkedfin: just tcl?
[02:13] <Tonren> GNOME Power Manager no longer notifies me when my battery is critical.  How do I get the popup back?
[02:13] <jordan_> Is Grub install on mactels supposed to be fixed yet in edgy? I am not sure wether or not to file a bug report ( it failed ).
[02:13] <synjet> Wikkedfin: apt-get tcl8.0
[02:13] <Who_> Can someone help me make a bug report for a crash that is causing a complete hang - no num/caps lock
[02:13] <LuisMendes> can someone recommend me a good FTP client besides gFTP?
[02:13] <robert_> where do I get xmame bioses or whatever?
[02:13] <Jack_Smirnoff> !edgy
[02:13] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:13] <Wikkedfin^> seems to be kernel update
[02:14] <kakado> LuisMendes, if you like cli then lftp
[02:14] <vdepizzol> LuisMendes, the file manager (nautilus) connects to ftp
[02:14] <synjet> Wikkedfin: apt-get tcl8.0 works?
[02:14] <Wikkedfin^> no
[02:14] <jordan_> Jack_Smirnoff, Was that a response to me?
[02:14] <vdepizzol> LuisMendes, go to Places > Connect to Server
[02:14] <Wikkedfin^> only thing i have done to this server install is installed gcc,g++ and make
[02:15] <synjet> Wikkedfin: hmmn it works for me..
[02:15] <Deton8R> I used to get roms at www.classicgaming.com but that was years ago
[02:15] <sivik> Wikkedfin^, try doing a apt-get install build-essential
[02:15] <THX-1138> !eyecandy
[02:15] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[02:15] <Wikkedfin^> sivik, whats that all install
[02:15] <sivik> and then try apt-get install tcl8.0
[02:15] <en1gma> m using kubuntu live dvd....i have an NF4 mboard that has onboard nvraid (i know its fake raid) now i have 4 sata drives in a raid 0 and there are 2 partitions (1 for windows) and (future 1 for kubuntu) but what i want to know now is how do i mount that array
[02:15] <Wikkedfin^> 8.0 latest?
[02:16] <corhere> I just installed ubuntu-server on an amd k6, the install cd booted fine but the newly-installed OS doesnt. I suspect that's because the kernel is compiled for i686, but then shouldn't the install cd fail to boot also?
[02:16] <sivik> its the latest one in the dapper repos
[02:16] <Code-E> How do you cd to a CD-Rom drive
[02:16] <Deton8R> looks like www.rom-world.com
[02:16] <THX-1138> the install cd is I386
[02:16] <sivik> Code-E, you have to make sure you have it mounted first
[02:16] <lupine_85>  /media/cdrom
[02:16] <en1gma> what about me
[02:16] <en1gma> and my Q
[02:16] <lupine_85> !patience
[02:16] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:16] <Code-E> sivik? how do you mount a cd-rom drive
[02:16] <Code-E> o_O
[02:17] <THX-1138> !raid
[02:17] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[02:17] <lupine_85> as for your question, I personally have no idea
[02:17] <Wikkedfin^> ah works now: tcl8.4 - Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v8.4 - run-time files
[02:17] <Wikkedfin^> 8.4 seems latest
[02:17] <corhere> THX-1138 i remember reading that i386 just means that its targeted at x86, but it's compiled -march i686
[02:17] <synjet> Wikkedfin: tclx8.4
[02:17] <gnomefreak> en1gma: try in #kubuntu
[02:17] <Wikkedfin^> nwo do i need tk also
[02:17] <thenetduck> how can i make a desktop video?
[02:18] <sivik> Code-E, mount /dev/sda# /media/cdrom
[02:18] <Code-E> wine ftw.kthxbai!
[02:18] <thenetduck> does anyone know how to make a desktop vide?
[02:18] <Code-E> o-o-o-o-o-o-o
[02:18] <Code-E> ftw!
[02:18] <THX-1138> corhere - Ah. Okay. - it never ceases to amaze me how much there is to know. - thank you.
[02:18] <vlt> Hello. How can I leave sudo mode, I mean how can I drop root rights before timeout (where to set that) is reached?
[02:18] <synjet> thenetduck: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/06/08/how-to-create-a-screencast-in-ubuntu/
[02:19] <THX-1138> "exit" will kill that session
[02:19] <synjet> vtl: exit
[02:19] <thenetduck> synjet thank you
[02:19] <lupine_85> synjet: surely that only works in sudo -i ?
[02:19] <Wikkedfin^> another question i installed eggdrop via apt-get i couldnt ever figure out hwo to get it to run....
[02:19] <lupine_85> oh, hang on.. ignore me :)
[02:19] <synjet> lupine_85: even sudo -s
[02:19] <grouchytim> hey _tom_ are you reading?
[02:20] <THX-1138> lupine_85 - If you new everything it would be dull.
[02:20] <synjet> THX-1138 :D now was that praising or teasing ;)
[02:20] <gnomefreak> Wikkedfin^: try #ubuntu-offtopic please they might be able to help you
[02:21] <vlt> Mmh, `exit` kills my whole shell session. Is there a softer way?
[02:21] <THX-1138> synjet - jeez - no high horse to ride in on here i can't spell knew.
[02:21] <Tonren> vlt: logout?
[02:21] <corhere> by not booting, the GRUB "savedefault, boot" is shown then immediately the computer reboots. Does that just mean that there is a problem with the kernel or that grub just cant load it?
[02:21] <Wikkedfin^> ok
[02:22] <Wikkedfin^> anyone else had the left speak crackling
[02:22] <synjet> vlt: if you want to exit from root to your user log-in, one exit should do the trick.. now if you type again, that kills your terminal
[02:22] <_tom_> oh, hi, is it working?
[02:22] <Wikkedfin^> distored
[02:22] <lupine_85> :p
[02:22] <grouchytim> anyone have time to troubleshoot internet thru a router with static ip?
[02:22] <bulldog> Evening, I am unable to configure my HP Laserjet 5n printer, does not auto detect through Print Manager eh
[02:22] <_tom_> so it` s not working... hm, i hoped you` d come back and say it works now grouchytim :)
[02:23] <BlueEagle> So, when I attempt to run xawtv -device /dev/video0 I get the error "X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode"
[02:23] <synjet> !printtool>bulldog
[02:23] <BlueEagle> Is this a nVidia driver problem? I've seen references to this, but that was in old posts.
[02:23] <dotsony> i've noticed that my computer starts lvm, raid, and enterprise services at boot time and these are completely unecessary on my laptop. will turning them off decrease boot time? and if so, how do I do this?
[02:23] <Falcongrinder> headache...  Ark says "The utility unrar is not in your PATH.
[02:23] <Falcongrinder> Please install it or contact your system administrator." when i try to extrack a .rar
[02:23] <vlt> synjet: But when I open a new terminal (konsole) I can sudo again until access expires. How can I force that expiring?
[02:23] <Falcongrinder> anyone have this problem?
[02:23] <grouchytim> well no but i'm trying to alter the /etc/network/interfaces file
[02:23] <synjet> vlt: unset autologout
[02:24] <kakado> Wikkedfin^, read about packages at packages.ubuntu.com
[02:24] <BlueEagle> dotsony: Yes, and rcconf is a good way to do it.
[02:24] <synjet> vlt: if you want to remain there
[02:24] <sklav> Falcongrinder, have you installed rar?
[02:24] <grouchytim> i just don't wanna dork it up too bad
[02:24] <|hate|> need some help only my second day on ubuntu... put xampp on ... how do i change permissions of the files... it wont' let me becuase im not "root"
[02:24] <Falcongrinder> ive installed unrar-free from the spm
[02:24] <bulldog> !printtool?
[02:24] <ubotu> printtool: Tk-based printer configuration tool. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.5-9 (dapper), package size 54 kB, installed size 308 kB
[02:24] <_tom_> hey, thats a good start grouchytim :D
[02:25] <G2k> guys I have a USB mouse that will only work if I boot up the computer when it's plugged in. It was working fine when I used Gentoo (plugging in and out, even during X sessions) but now if it's not plugged in during boot, Ubuntu doesn't recognize the hardware or something
[02:25] <vlt> synjet: `unset autologout` doesn't help.
[02:25] <BlueEagle> |hate|: chown is the way to change owners of files.
[02:25] <G2k> how can i go about fixing this?
[02:25] <_tom_> i`ll paste you my config
[02:25] <sklav> Falcongrinder, make sure its in the correct path that ark is looking for it
[02:25] <bulldog> ubotu: Thanks I will check it out
[02:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Thanks I will check it out - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:25] <_tom_> you can do a backup file of it
[02:25] <synjet> vlt: sorry, I didnt get your q
[02:25] <sklav> and why not use rar-free from ubuntu universe?
[02:25] <_tom_> i mean of your config file ;)
[02:25] <|hate|> can noone help?
[02:25] <BlueEagle> |hate|: Note that some filesystems (like vfat and ntfs) don't support permissions. These you would need to specify when you mount the partition.
[02:25] <_tom_> and if you screw something you can copy it back
[02:25] <variant> whats the package name for blackdown jdk on ubuntu?
[02:25] <bulldog> synjet: Thanks as well
[02:25] <fishy> I set GPartEd to resize a partition, and then create a new one out of the allocated space, and I waited 2 hours, and nothing happened.
[02:25] <Falcongrinder> ive been trying to find out what that is
[02:25] <BlueEagle> |hate|: Relevant resources: man chown and man mount
[02:25] <fishy> Any reason why nothing is working?
[02:26] <Tonren> Is there a way to disable session manager from starting ANYTHING at login except for startup programs?
[02:26] <Tonren> Also, GNOME Power Manager no longer notifies me when my battery is critical.  How do I get the popup back?
[02:26] <grouchytim> ok sounds good
[02:26] <Falcongrinder> sorry.. rar-free is what ive installed
[02:26] <sklav> |hate|, sudo chmod 755 name-of-file
[02:26] <Falcongrinder> non unrar
[02:26] <grouchytim> but you don't know how bad i am at linux
[02:26] <sklav> keep in mind 755 might not be what you need
[02:26] <variant> Falcongrinder: unrar-gpl
[02:26] <grouchytim> <---sux bad
[02:26] <sivik> ok, i just ran a ntpupdate and now my clock time says its 6 hours ahead and now when i run sudo it says the timestamp is too far in the future
[02:27] <sklav> sivik, you got the wrong time zone most likely
[02:27] <synjet> fishy: 2 hrs is extremely long
[02:27] <sklav> it might be using UTC
[02:27] <sivik> sklav, how do i fix that
[02:27] <sklav> right click on the time and set your time zone
[02:27] <vlt> synjet: If I do run a  sudo command the first time I have to enter password. For about the next 10 minutes I don't have to re-enter that password. How can I force sudo to ask for pw faster?
[02:27] <sivik> i'm not in gnome or kde, thats rather difficult
[02:28] <sklav> command line?
[02:28] <sivik> yes, how do you do it via command line
[02:28] <sklav> use the date command
[02:28] <Falcongrinder> i think ill screw with it some more. Thanks
[02:28] <corhere> when booting, my machine loads grub and then attempts to boot ubuntu-server. It shows everything up to the savedefault, boot and then immediately reboots
[02:28] <synjet> vlt: edit /etc/sudoers
[02:28] <BlueEagle> so, no takers on xawtv -device /dev/video0 giving weird DGA errors with a nvidia card?
[02:29] <synjet> vlt: change this as needed: Defaults:user_name timestamp_timeout=10
[02:29] <S0me1> sivik: startkde command
[02:29] <grouchytim> welcome back
[02:29] <_tom_> thx :)
[02:29] <G2k> guys I have a USB mouse that will only work if I boot up the computer when it's plugged in. It was working fine when I used Gentoo (plugging in and out, even during X sessions) but now if it's not plugged in during boot, Ubuntu doesn't recognize the hardware or something
[02:29] <G2k> how can i go about fixing this?
[02:29] <_tom_> 24h reconnect thingy
[02:29] <sivik> S0me1, i don't have kde installed
[02:29] <jbmigel> sivik "man date"
[02:30] <sivik> i did that
[02:30] <S0me1> sivik: could you please repet the Q's?
[02:30] <jbmigel> sivik... read it
[02:30] <sklav> his computer is suing UTC time
[02:30] <sklav> correction
[02:30] <sivik> jbmigel, then i just missed the part about setting a time zone
[02:30] <Wikkedfin^> now i just noticed on my unbuntu desktop box music is distored raspy if you would
[02:30] <sklav> ubuntu thinks his bios is set to UTC most likely
[02:30] <fluvvell> G2k, what does dmesg say about the mouse?  Does any other usb mouse you have do the same?
[02:31] <jbmigel> oh wait... yes you set timezone a different way
[02:31] <S0me1> i see
[02:31] <jbmigel> sivik 1 sec
[02:31] <grouchytim> wooohoooo
[02:31] <grouchytim> i'm up
[02:31] <grouchytim> that was the trick
[02:31] <_tom_> great :)
[02:31] <grouchytim> was missing the gateway xx.xx.xx.xx entry in interfaces
[02:31] <grouchytim> that rules
[02:31] <_tom_> oh, i like happy ends ;D
[02:32] <grouchytim> i actually fixed something
[02:32] <grouchytim> and it only took 3 days
[02:32] <grouchytim> lol
[02:32] <_tom_> jup, great work
[02:32] <_tom_> well, you did not stop trying
[02:32] <jbmigel> sivik there is a file called /etc/timezone
[02:32] <_tom_> enjoy the victory! :)
[02:32] <grouchytim> wife wishes i would have
[02:32] <sklav> grouchytim, that not bad
[02:32] <grouchytim> she hasn't seen much of me lately cus of this
[02:32] <grouchytim> lol
[02:32] <sklav> when i started it took me forever to figure stuff out
[02:32] <corhere> anybody have any experience with GRUB and bootup troubles?
[02:32] <_tom_> :)
[02:32] <sivik> i have it set on US/Central
[02:33] <S0me1> jbmigel: you are right
[02:33] <jbmigel> sivik where are you?
[02:33] <sivik> jbmigel, Texas
[02:33] <G2k> fluvvell it says [17211268.076000]  psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio4/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 1 bytes away
[02:33] <sklav> sivik, on boot ubuntu takes the time from the bios
[02:33] <jbmigel> sivik is that central time?
[02:33] <_tom_> now get your next problem grouchytim ;)
[02:33] <G2k> i think that's it at least
[02:33] <grouchytim> now i have to see if i can get the ssh thing workin too
[02:33] <G2k> fluvvell i doubt its the touchpad
[02:33] <grouchytim> wonder how long that will take
[02:33] <sklav> and your bios is probably set to local time and not UTC
[02:33] <sivik> sklav: yes i now, i just looked to make sure its right
[02:33] <G2k> fluvvell and then im getting a bunch of [17211285.652000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xf5 on isa0060/serio0).
[02:33] <sklav> ok
[02:34] <sklav> you need to make ubuntu stop converting your bios time as if it was UTC
[02:34] <_tom_> hm, what do you want to do with ssh?
[02:34] <sklav> that im not sure how to do it
[02:34] <sivik> sklav: its 7 something here and my clock when i run date is fri sep 22 02:34:07 CDT 2006 and its thursday
[02:34] <grouchytim> i can ssh out of ubuntu but not into it
[02:35] <sivik> grouchytim, did you install openssh-server?
[02:35] <sklav> sivik, do you have graphical access to gnome?
[02:35] <grouchytim> ssh-agent is listening
[02:35] <CNote> grouchytim: is there a firewall issue?
[02:35] <jbmigel> sivik: sudo dpkg-reconfigure timezoneconf any help?
[02:35] <sklav> go to sysconfig
[02:35] <Wikkedfin^> !sound
[02:35] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[02:35] <chaos> hey, what ssh client would be most like putty?
[02:35] <grouchytim> nope i just got the ability to see the internet 94 seconds ago
[02:35] <fluvvell> G2k, so its on a laptop?
[02:35] <grouchytim> so i have to play a little
[02:35] <SlipperyChicken> anyone use free-to-air satelite ?  we're down here.
[02:35] <_tom_> maybe that problem is solved too now :)
[02:35] <Samuli^> dapper uses gnome 2.14 right?
[02:35] <sklav> make sure UTC is not selected
[02:36] <sivik> jbmigel, it says timezoneconf is not installed and no info is available
[02:36] <grouchytim> nope
[02:36] <G2k> fluvvell yes, but it's a usb mouse so it shouldnt make a difference whether it's PC or laptop no?
[02:36] <grouchytim> just tried it
[02:36] <grouchytim> no joy
[02:36] <Jack_Smirnoff> grouchytim: May I suggest a backup as somthing that might be appropiate at this time...
[02:36] <synjet> grouchytim: what does it say?
[02:36] <sklav> grouchytim, did you set the dns in /etc/resolv.conf?
[02:36] <fluvvell> grouchytim, sudo apt-get install ssh
[02:36] <grouchytim> good poin Jack_Smirnoff
[02:36] <grouchytim> point that is
[02:36] <sivik> fluvvell, that doesn't work, its openssh-server or openssh-client
[02:36] <sklav> grouchytim, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[02:37] <Jack_Smirnoff> !sbackup
[02:37] <grouchytim> connection refused
[02:37] <ubotu> sbackup: Simple Backup Suite for desktop use. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-1 (dapper), package size 36 kB, installed size 340 kB
[02:37] <sivik> sklav: thats what i just said, lol
[02:37] <sklav> ;)
[02:37] <grouchytim> ok trying the ssh server one
[02:37] <sklav> im slow at reading
[02:37] <sklav> hehe
[02:37] <fluvvell> sivik, isn't there some dependency thing in dapper that brings them both in? it worked on my last installation on saturday
[02:37] <CNote> groucytim: can't you do a netstat to see if port 22 is listening
[02:37] <sivik> fluvvell, i don't think so, can't remember
[02:37] <sklav> CNote, he doesnt have server installed
[02:37] <sivik> fluvvell, i think if you install openssh-server it installs the client
[02:37] <synjet> grouchytim: apt-get install ssh? though I am repeating
[02:38] <thenetduck> hey guys i just deleted my Desktop folder in Xubuntu how do I get it bacK ?????????
[02:38] <sklav> copy it from /etc/skel
[02:38] <Samuli^> really? nobody knows what version of gnome dapper is running :)
[02:38] <synjet> thenetduck: were yuou sudo or root?
[02:38] <sklav> 2.14
[02:38] <Jack_Smirnoff> thenetduck: did you ever get your ext3 mounted?
[02:38] <sivik> synjet: that doesn't work
[02:38] <Tonren> hey guys, animated GIF editor for Linux.  any?
[02:38] <sklav> 2.14.3 to be exact
[02:38] <sivik> Tonren, did you try gimp?
[02:38] <thenetduck> Jack_Smirnoff yes I got it mounted :)
[02:38] <synjet> thenetduck, sivik rummaging the trash, mebbe? :)
[02:38] <jbmigel> sivik ok here it is... in the file /etc/default/rcS toggle UTC=yes
[02:39] <sklav> 2.14.3 to be exact Samuli^
[02:39] <Jack_Smirnoff> thenetduck: DId you need to edit pmount or just your fstab?
[02:39] <rawrness> this was thereaason i dual booted windows
[02:39] <Tonren> sivik: I can't use Gimp.  I'm too used to Photoshop, and everything in the GIMP just confuses and frustrates me.  I could use ImageReady in CXOffice, but it's overkill for the simple stuff I want to do
[02:39] <Samuli^> sklav, what I thought, There's 2.16 available. Do you happen to know if anyone has compiled it for dapper?
[02:39] <fluvvell> sivik, maybe thats it
[02:39] <grouchytim> ssh is installed and listening
[02:39] <robert_> where do I get xess bioses or whatever?
[02:39] <thenetduck> Jack_Smirnoff no i just had to redo my fstab
[02:39] <rawrness> i just dual boot to use photoshop
[02:39] <sklav> Samuli^, not that i know of
[02:39] <G2k> how can I remove old kernels?
[02:39] <Jack_Smirnoff> thenetduck: I jumped the gun by not asking first if you had tried std mounting.. my apologies
[02:39] <sivik> jbmigel, it already says UTC=yes
[02:39] <rawrness> they better as hell make  one for linux.
[02:39] <thenetduck> synjet I was on my root acount
[02:39] <grouchytim> sorry i didn't acnowledge you sooner synjet
[02:39] <sklav> but it might be just need to find the repo for it
[02:39] <jbmigel> sivik change it to no
[02:39] <sivik> jbmigel, ok
[02:40] <sklav> maybe they mention it on gnome site
[02:40] <synjet> grouchytim: no prob.. as long as your grouchiness is gone ;)
[02:40] <fluvvell> sivik, I just remember  reading in someones howto and thought, hmm he didn't seem to install openssh-server
[02:40] <Samuli^> sklav, I looked there, didn't find anything but the source-codes though.
[02:40] <synjet> thenetduck: I dont think it is possible
[02:40] <thenetduck> yup It is , but just fixed it :) thanks lol
[02:40] <eternalswd> okay, I can see my Windows share in Nautilus.  How do I mount it with read/write access.
[02:40] <sivik> fluvvell, well, they must have though wrong, cause it doesn't work, i just tried it and it doesn't find a package named ssh, its openssh-(client or server)
[02:40] <sklav> Samuli^, i wont be of much more help since im running the default myself
[02:41] <sklav> plus it was released last week
[02:41] <sivik> jbmigel, now i just need to run the ntpupdate again right
[02:41] <grout> i have these dotted lines going through my buttons and have an ati video card, anyone know how to fix this?
[02:41] <sklav> im sure in a couple of days someone will release packages
[02:41] <grouchytim> ok my apt-get says that openssh server is obsolete
[02:41] <synjet> thenetduck: you deleted them? pray throw some light on how you recovered, for my future ref?
[02:41] <Samuli^> sklav, that's plenty of time for some to compile it to .deb :)
[02:41] <sivik> grouchytim, are you running dapper?
[02:41] <grouchytim> what is dapper?
[02:41] <S0me1> sivik: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53411
[02:42] <sivik> grouchytim, dapper is the latest stable version of ubuntu
[02:42] <sethk> grouchytim, the name of the current release of ubuntu
[02:42] <fluvvell> sivik, my response was    ssh is already the newest version.
[02:42] <Xnix> anyone in here running edgy?
[02:42] <sklav> Samuli^, i agree but then again someone might not have the time ;)
[02:42] <grouchytim> oh no sorry i'm using edgy
[02:42] <jbmigel> sivik i dont know that command. If it reinits your system clock then it should work... otherwise a reboot will do
[02:42] <sivik> go to ubuntu_1
[02:42] <grout> how do i install a different ati driver?
[02:42] <sklav> sivik, it should work
[02:42] <sivik> grout: what ati card?
[02:42] <^Ocean^> Xlib: connection to ":1.0" refused by server
[02:42] <^Ocean^> Xlib: No protocol specified
[02:42] <^Ocean^>  whats this mean ?
[02:42] <thenetduck> synjet I deleted my desktop icon, but trying to make a .tash folder and sticking some stuff in it, but for some reason it just deleted my desktop folder, all I had to do is create a new one ...
[02:42] <sivik> sklav: i have to remember what ntp server to use
[02:42] <grout> sivik radoen 7500 in a thinkpad t42
[02:42] <thenetduck> synjet It was a super simple fix, but i thought it might effect the rest of my desktop
[02:42] <Samuli^> sklav, One thing is that the release might've not raised enough interest anyways.
[02:43] <sklav> try pool.us.ntp.org
[02:43] <sklav> i think its that
[02:43] <synjet> thenetduck: I thought you recovered files on desktop that got deleted :)
[02:43] <^Ocean^> AUDIT: Thu Sep 21 20:45:19 2006: 26891 Xgl: client 1 rejected from local host
[02:43] <^Ocean^>  how to i give localhost access ?
[02:43] <sivik> S0me1, i'm using dapper, why do i care about Warty?
[02:43] <thenetduck> synjet no, they are all gone :(
[02:43] <sethk> sivik, I have no idea.  why do you care about warty?
[02:43] <Samuli^> sklav, everyone's about kde 4 while gnome publishing minor updates is just un-interesting.
[02:43] <Jack_Smirnoff> thenetduck: DId you need to edit pmount or just your fstab?
[02:44] <grout> sivik?
[02:44] <Slynderdale> I take it the Ubunti install process where it allows you to choose a partition/hard drive, that selection resize automatically, it creates one for you, corret? Now does that leave the original ahrd drive intact? I have a windows XP isntall using  NTFS and don't want to go find the drive formatted :/
[02:44] <sklav> ^Ocean^, try the following compiz-start from a command line
[02:44] <sivik> sethk: well, he just sent me a url for a warty thing and i was asking him why?
[02:44] <knoppix> guys lost my x
[02:44] <thenetduck> Jack_Smirnoff i just needed to edit my fstab, here let me give you a link to a really good tutorial....
[02:44] <sethk> Slynderdale, no, there is no resizing by default
[02:44] <grout> how do i install a different ati driver?
[02:44] <fluvvell> sivik, sudo apt-cache depends ssh
[02:44] <fluvvell> ssh
[02:44] <fluvvell>   Depends: openssh-client
[02:44] <fluvvell>   Depends: openssh-server
[02:44] <sethk> knoppix, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:44] <knoppix> lost my var/log files
 i get AUDIT: Thu Sep 21 20:46:50 2006: 26891 Xgl: client 1 rejected from local host
[02:44] <knoppix> i'm on a live boot
[02:44] <sklav> did you run it the way i mentionned?
[02:44] <sivik> fluvvell, i know, but if you run sudo apt-get install ssh, it says it doesn't exsist
[02:45] <_tom_> Slynderdale, i recommend a backup, better safe than sorry
[02:45] <sklav> from within gnome?
[02:45] <thenetduck> Jack_Smirnoff http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountlinux
[02:45] <Jack_Smirnoff> thenetduck: thanks....
[02:45] <fluvvell> sivik, maybe you need to add multiverse and universe to your repositories
[02:45] <sivik> fluvvell, nvm, they must have changed that
[02:45] <sivik> fluvvell, it use to not work when i just ran ssh
[02:45] <sklav> ^Ocean^, im running Xgl as we speak
[02:45] <knoppix> seth  there is no var or log for x
[02:45] <synjet> knoppix: how did you lose files on live cd boot?
[02:45] <thenetduck> Jack_Smirnoff np, I just decided to start from scratch and it worked by following that... I think i confuse myself a lot
[02:45] <^Ocean^> sklav, i have a second screen open in a window
[02:45] <grout> sivik: you know how i would install a diffrent driver?
[02:45] <^Ocean^> but nothing can access the display
[02:46] <CodeBot> Hi im just wondering why my computer is beeping
[02:46] <sivik> fluvvell, ok, i was trying to install flashplugin-nonfree and now because it can't install, it comes up each time i run apt-get install
[02:46] <^Ocean^> becuase AUDIT: client rejected crap
[02:46] <sivik> grout: not sure, go to wiki.ubuntu.com and search ati
[02:46] <thenetduck> Jack_Smirnoff do you know if there is a "force quit" button in Xubuntu?
[02:46] <synjet> CodeBot: high BP? ;) is it erratic or when you do something?
[02:46] <knoppix> no my ubuntu dapper i installed  a aplha software for a emulator
[02:46] <BlueEagle> Hello. I am having a bit of trouble getting my QuickCam Communicate STX working with a nVidia card. When I attempt to run xawtv -device /dev/video0 with the nvidia I get a DGA error. When I attempt to run the same command with the nv driver I get "no space left on device". lsusb lists it as "046d:08ad Logitech, Inc."
[02:46] <grouchytim> so what do i have to play with to get ssh to let me in?
[02:46] <^Ocean^> so how do i modify the xserver to allow loclahost connections ?
[02:46] <sklav> ok close the screen and try in a term compiz-start
[02:46] <knoppix> and then it went to 600x400
[02:46] <tcoffin> Anyone know equivalent of "ipconfig /flushdns" in ubuntu?  Trying to change host file to point to different webservers...
[02:46] <grouchytim> from what i understand....
[02:46] <^Ocean^> sklav, okay
[02:46] <knoppix> and i can not get out of  the res
[02:47] <tritium> grouchytim: just install the openssh-server package, and you're good to go
[02:47] <xspike> hi
[02:47] <^Ocean^> sklav, did nothing
[02:47] <knoppix> i have nvida card
[02:47] <grouchytim> ssh grouchytim@xx.xx.xx.xx <enter>
[02:47] <sivik> tritium, thats what i told him to do
[02:47] <grouchytim> am i wrong?
[02:47] <fluvvell> sivik, yeah whats up with flashplugin-nonfree anyway?  I have been having major problems getting it to install on my daughters pc
[02:47] <tritium> sivik: good :)
[02:47] <Jack_Smirnoff> thenetduck: You are right.. that is very well done....Noted for future reference.
[02:47] <xspike> m'8 i've a question..
[02:47] <xspike> i'm a linux noob..
[02:47] <grouchytim> it wouldn't install tritium
[02:47] <CodeBot> synjet: no just every once and a while it beeps
[02:47] <knoppix> rm the log back up and log var files thing it would do me good
[02:47] <sivik> fluvvell, i'm not sure, but i did it and it still comes up that and firefox works
[02:47] <BlueEagle> grouchytim: ssh -l <username> [hostname|ip] 
[02:47] <tritium> grouchytim: what do you mean?
[02:47] <grouchytim> said it was osolete
[02:47] <sklav> ^Ocean^, you running nvidia?
[02:48] <^Ocean^> sklav, yup
[02:48] <grouchytim> my repositories are the default soooooo
[02:48] <sklav> ok
[02:48] <knoppix> what to do what to do ?????????????
[02:48] <tritium> grouchytim: sudo apt-get update && apt-get install openssh-server
[02:48] <sklav> did you follow the wiki?
[02:48] <fluvvell> sivik, but can you access any flash enabled pages? what plugins does about:plugins list for you? mine was blank
[02:48] <synjet> grouchytim: what does "apt-cache search ssh" show?
[02:48] <sivik> fluvvell, not sure
[02:48] <grouchytim> ok wait one
[02:48] <xspike> i've downloaded a gdm theme from www.gnome-look.org, where can i copy all file that was contained in archive ?
[02:48] <sivik> fluvvell, pm
[02:48] <Tonren> Is there a way to disable session manager from starting ANYTHING at login except for startup programs?
[02:48] <Tonren> Also, GNOME Power Manager no longer notifies me when my battery is critical.  How do I get the popup back?
[02:48] <synjet> CodeBot: is it when you do backspace in terminal.. like a system beep? if it is erratic.. no idea
[02:49] <^Ocean^> i dont think my issue is with compiz my issue is with nothing can access the display
[02:49] <^Ocean^> i cant get any apps to open on the display
[02:49] <knoppix> what to do what to do ?????????????
[02:49] <sethk> Tonren, you can configure it to do whatever you like
[02:49] <squidly> hello? Im trying to setup ubunto to install with a software raid but the installer will not let me
[02:49] <Jack_Smirnoff> xspike: no need to unpack it.. just drop the tar onto the theme manager
[02:49] <sklav> ^Ocean^, did you modify anything?
[02:49] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell knoppix about repeat
[02:49] <xspike> ok and after can i delete tar file '
[02:49] <KromiX> Hey guys, i'm new here, and I don't want to flood the main channel with crap but is there anyone I can private message to have a short convo about Ubunutu basics? I wanna switch from WindoZe but have a couple questions i didnt find in any FAQ's....
[02:49] <en1gma> for the love of god can someone help me with this nvraid raid0 stripe
[02:49] <xspike> ;)
[02:49] <BlueEagle> knoppix: :p
[02:49] <synjet> !patience>knoppix
[02:49] <^Ocean^> sklav, no
[02:49] <sklav> xhost + is what will fix your issue
[02:50] <en1gma> i read this howto http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2557.html
[02:50] <Jack_Smirnoff> !raid
[02:50] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[02:50] <grouchytim> says that ssh-openserver has been obsoleted or not available on this server
[02:50] <Tonren> sethk: Well, I can't figure out how to configure it to never start anything, ever, unless it's in the startup thing
[02:50] <synjet> grouchytim: maybe you have enable your repos
[02:50] <sivik> and now doing anything sudo gives me an error of "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Sep 22 02:50:04 2006
[02:50] <sivik> "
[02:50] <__mikem> I have a bit of a problem, for some reason, X refuses to start
[02:50] <tritium> grouchytim: use the proper package name
[02:50] <grouchytim> yeah i haven't done anything with those yet synjet
[02:51] <sklav> sivik, did you reboot?
[02:51] <VPN> i am trying to connect to msvpn at office i cannot help
[02:51] <tritium> it's not ssh-openserver, grouchytim.  it's openssh-server
[02:51] <sklav> and make sure bios time is set to local time
[02:51] <sivik> sklav: no, but last time i rebooted, it screwed up my time again
[02:51] <sklav> it might have been changed
[02:51] <grouchytim> sorry i typed it here
[02:51] <tritium> !openssh-server
[02:51] <ubotu> openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 540 kB
[02:51] <sklav> sivik, this time you removed the UTC option
[02:51] <grouchytim> that is on the desktop this is my laptop
[02:51] <CodeBot> !beeping
[02:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beeping - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <CodeBot> !cedega
[02:51] <synjet> grouchytim: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#SSH_Server
[02:51] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[02:51] <sivik> sklav: i changed from yes to no
[02:51] <tritium> grouchytim: it's in main, dude.
[02:51] <sklav> so make sure bios is ok when you reboot and you shoulk be ok
[02:51] <synjet> grouchytim: check your repos list with theirs
[02:51] <sklav> ok now reboot
[02:52] <sklav> and check the bios again
[02:52] <squidly> !raid install
[02:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about raid install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:52] <grout> how can i find out which x windows version im running?
[02:52] <sklav> i had the same issue a while back
[02:52] <fluvvell> grouchytim, as I recommended before, sudo apt-get install ssh
[02:52] <grout> how can i find out which x windows version im running?
[02:52] <sklav> grout, xorg -V
[02:52] <fluvvell> that covers the dependencies
[02:52] <tritium> fluvvell: that simply depends on openssh-server
[02:52] <grout> thanks
[02:52] <THX-1138> Hi grouchytim
[02:52] <squidly> anyone know how to install ubunto on a software raid system?
[02:52] <THX-1138> !raid
[02:52] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[02:53] <THX-1138> Did that help?
[02:53] <grouchytim> fluvvell i tried that very line you typed and it said that it either no longer had the package or it was obsolete or i had to get it somewhere else
[02:53] <squidly> let me look that up.
[02:53] <CrippsFX> I'm running Ubuntu 64 bit edition ... and I installed the Linuxant driverloader ... unfortunately, I'm having the same problem with it as I have with ndiswrapper, they alias my wireless card to wlan0 and when I do "ifconfig wlan0 up" I get the error:"wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device" ... I have ensured that the module is loaded and that bcm43xx is not loaded. Any ideas?
[02:53] <VPN> can i force my internet use one interface vs other?
[02:53] <tritium> grouchytim: your /etc/apt/sources.list must be messed up.  Please put it on pastebin
[02:53] <fluvvell> grouchytim, sudo apt-get update
[02:53] <grout> xorg -V
[02:54] <grouchytim> ahhh
[02:54] <grout> oops
[02:54] <CrippsFX> (in my network gui, I still get that "eth1" (also my wireless card) is there ... but no wlan0
[02:54] <grouchytim> that i haven't done
[02:54] <squidly> THX-1138: not really
[02:54] <grouchytim> wait one
[02:54] <sivik> that didn't fix it, and now it says the time is 7:52:44 am on fri sep 22
[02:54] <tritium> grouchytim: I told you to do that!
[02:54] <THX-1138> Hi tritium
[02:54] <grout> says xorg -V command not found
[02:54] <fluvvell> grouchytim, can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on #flood ?
[02:54] <tritium> hi THX-1138
[02:54] <Jack_Smirnoff> CrippsFX: try eth0
[02:54] <tritium> fluvvell: I've already asked him to do that, as well as already told him to apt-get update
[02:54] <CrippsFX> Jack_Smirnoff, eth0 is my ethernet adapter.
[02:54] <grouchytim> sorry fluvvell it's on a different computer
[02:54] <sivik> CrippsFX, what kind of card?
[02:54] <sklav> sivik, you changed the date and time in the bios?
[02:55] <CrippsFX> sivik, broadcom.
[02:55] <sivik> sklav: it was correct
[02:55] <sklav> ok
[02:55] <Jack_Smirnoff> CrippsFX: do you show two eth?
[02:55] <grouchytim> there's no cross paste i know of
[02:55] <tritium> grouchytim: then how were you able to run a "sudo apt-get update"?
[02:55] <sivik> CrippsFX, 43?
[02:55] <sivik> CrippsFX, which one
[02:55] <fluvvell> sorry tritium, was out
[02:55] <grouchytim> on the desktop
[02:55] <tritium> no problem
[02:55] <grouchytim> i'm talkin on laptop
[02:55] <squidly> THX-1138: I can make the arrray but the ubuntu installer wants to try to install it on a single drive not use an array
[02:55] <grouchytim> workin on desktop
[02:55] <sivik> CrippsFX, are you using the wl_apsta.o firmware?
[02:55] <CrippsFX> Jack_Smirnoff, in the Networking GUI it shows eth0 and eth1 (eth1 being my wireless under the native bcm43xx module ... which isn't working for me)
[02:55] <tritium> grouchytim: is your "g" key not working, grouchytim ?
[02:55] <grouchytim> good
[02:55] <grouchytim> now it's installed
[02:56] <spuddogg> dacc, are you here?
[02:56] <grouchytim> had an old list in my repository i think
[02:56] <grout> what version of x windows is default for dapper?
[02:56] <knoppix> any ideas please
[02:56] <CrippsFX> sivik, I've tried, but even when using that firmware, and I do "iwlist eth1 scanning" I get no results (sitting right on top of my AP)
[02:56] <sivik> pm CrippsFX
[02:56] <CrippsFX> kk
[02:56] <sivik> i know, which card
[02:56] <tritium> grouchytim: what were you doing wrong?
[02:56] <sklav> sivik, try running time-admin
[02:56] <grouchytim> had to do that update
[02:57] <sklav> not sure if it works in ncurses
[02:57] <grouchytim> apt-get update
[02:57] <tritium> grouchytim: told you so.
[02:57] <Jack_Smirnoff> CrippsFX: I am really bad at wireless but I thought you had to wrap eth1
[02:57] <grouchytim> thanx tritium
[02:57] <THX-1138> squidly - Okay - afraid i don't know anything about raid - real good with ubotu aliases. sorry.
[02:57] <tritium> grouchytim: no, you didn't have bad repos in your sources.list, just needed the update
[02:57] <sivik> sklav: time-admin: command not found
[02:57] <grouchytim> now i think i have that licked too
[02:57] <spuddogg> Does anyone know why when I use my wireless card that only works via ndiswrapper, the network works fine (except rfmon), but when I run my Atheros card, I cannot connect to my network as long as I have WEP enabled?  When I disable the wep it works fine.  Any ideas?  PLEASE HELP!
[02:57] <spuddogg> Does anyone know why when I use my wireless card that only works via ndiswrapper, the network works fine (except rfmon), but when I run my Atheros card, I cannot connect to my network as long as I have WEP enabled?  When I disable the wep it works fine.  Any ideas?  PLEASE HELP!
[02:57] <tcoffin> ack, I started a wget that is failing...how do I stop it?
[02:57] <grouchytim> let me try it out and see if i'ts all good now
[02:57] <sivik> spuddogg, which card?
[02:57] <AbortD> CrippsFX, whats the problem?
[02:57] <KromiX> Does any1 here use Cedega?
[02:57] <sklav> sivik, this box does it have a graphical environment?
[02:58] <tritium> don't repeat, spuddogg
[02:58] <tcoffin> ctrl - c is not working...
[02:58] <spuddogg> tritium, sorry, i did not see the entire thing on my screen the first time
[02:58] <sivik> sklav: yes, but not kde nor gnome
[02:58] <grouchytim> sweet
[02:58] <grouchytim> ssh works now too
[02:58] <sklav> sivik, what do you have by the way?
[02:58] <grouchytim> you guys are a wealth of knowledge
[02:58] <sivik> AbortD, its a bug in the firmware for his hardware
[02:58] <CrippsFX> AbortD, basically ndiswrapper (and the Linuxant driver loader) aliases my wireless card to wlan0, but I can't bring the interfACE up
[02:58] <sivik> sklav: enlightenment
[02:58] <synjet> grouchytim: just try to reciprocate back ;)
[02:58] <spuddogg> sivik, its a linksys card that works via ndiswrapper, but an orinoco gold that im having probs with
[02:58] <KromiX> As far as Cedega goes, does it allow you to play games on linux like WOW and does just that, or does it play it flawlessly and as good as windows? Cause I really don't want to switch to a linux distro if i'm going to hinder my gaming experience....
[02:59] <AbortD> what hardware are you using?
[02:59] <grouchytim> as soon as i'm smart enough to actually help someone else i surely will
[02:59] <sivik> KromiX, i have friends that say WoW plays better with wine rather than cedega
[02:59] <Samuli^> KromiX, well you ARE going to hinder your gaming if you switch completely
[02:59] <grouchytim> and no my "G" key works fine...i just drag my huge fingers sometime
[02:59] <Jack_Smirnoff> KromiX: Best to stay with your Wintendo box
[02:59] <sklav> sivik, try tzconfig
[02:59] <Samuli^> KromiX, of course you can have both.
[02:59] <squidly> ahh here we go
[02:59] <spuddogg> grouchytim, i heard that!  i feel the same way.  im dying to help people, but i cant, lol
[02:59] <sklav> its command line but it will work
[03:00] <squidly> THX-1138: http://www.ubuntu-in.org/wiki/SATA_RAID_Howto that is what I was looking for
[03:00] <AbortD> CrippsFX, what hardware?
[03:00] <sivik> sklav: it still says i'm in US/Central
[03:00] <_tom_> wow works with cedega iirc, but if you really want to be able to play all games, you should keep windows, or at least setup dualboot KromiX
[03:00] <sivik> AbortD: its broadcom 4318
[03:00] <Jack_Smirnoff> KromiX: Dual booting works fine for me.
[03:00] <sklav> what time zone are you in?
[03:00] <Wikkedfin^> gunzip: tcl8.4.13-src.tar.gz: not in gzip format , gunzip dont work tar -x dont work what am i doing wrong
[03:00] <AbortD> oh
[03:00] <AbortD> have fun with that
[03:00] <CrippsFX> AbortD, broadcom bcm4318
[03:00] <grouchytim> i just took over as the lan administrator at work and i feel real stupid sometimes then i get to come home and feel even dumber
[03:00] <sivik> Wikkedfin^, try tar xvfj
[03:00] <sivik> Wikkedfin^, try tar xvfz
[03:00] <KromiX> jack_smirnoff: i don't think i wanna duel box, i guess i can
[03:00] <spuddogg> sivik, any ideas bro?
[03:00] <AbortD> what is it just not connecting to the net?
[03:00] <orbin> Wikkedfin^: tar.gz indicates a gzipped tarball
[03:01] <sivik> Wikkedfin^, tar xvfz for tar.gz
[03:01] <grouchytim> thanx _tom_ for your help too. i appreciate it
[03:01] <Jack_Smirnoff> KromiX: It actually works VERY well
[03:01] <KromiX> Jack_Smirnoff: why's that
[03:01] <CrippsFX> AbortD, it's not just not connecting to the net ... it's not even bringing up the interface (using ndiswrapper)
[03:01] <THX-1138> squidly - http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-lvm/    http://www.redhat.com/archives/linux-lvm/2006-February/msg00031.html  - :-S
[03:01] <sklav> sivik when you type date paste the return answer here
[03:01] <KromiX> Jack_Smirnoff: to be honest i wasn't even aware you can dual boot linux/windows ;P
[03:01] <sklav> example i have Thu Sep 21 21:01:02 EDT 2006
[03:01] <grouchytim> ok so lets try one more thing here
[03:01] <jUggERNAUt1980> CrippsFX:  do you have netmanager?
[03:01] <grout> how can i find out if i have x.org or xfree86?
[03:01] <Milchmann> can sombody tell me a virusscanner which i can use to scan windows systems via network from ubuntu?
[03:01] <jUggERNAUt1980> are you on a compaq with the broadcomm chipset?
[03:02] <CrippsFX> jUggERNAUt1980, the networking GUI?
[03:02] <sivik> jUggERNAUt1980, no he isn't
[03:02] <Jack_Smirnoff> KromiX: THis isnt the place for this discussion, lets just say you can have your cake and eat it too.. You can have both
[03:02] <grouchytim> lets get me onto irc using ubuntu now
[03:02] <tritium> grouchytim: don't feel that way.  This is the kind of thing that can only be learned from experience.  It's not a measure of intelligence.
[03:02] <sivik> CrippsFX is
[03:02] <jUggERNAUt1980> yup!
[03:02] <AbortD> CrippsFX, did you activate ra0?
[03:02] <grouchytim> and no you don't wanna know what i'm using right now
[03:02] <bobbyyu> I have a problem with Java with Kubuntu: It says "The local variable XXX is not read"
[03:02] <CrippsFX> AbortD, ra0? I'll give it a shot
[03:02] <spuddogg> Does anyone know why when I use my wireless card that only works via ndiswrapper, the network works fine (except rfmon), but when I run my Atheros card, I cannot connect to my network as long as I have WEP enabled?  When I disable the wep it works fine.  Any ideas?  PLEASE HELP!
[03:02] <lupine_85> grout: if you're using Ubuntu, you'r using x.org
[03:02] <jUggERNAUt1980> that worked for me with my broadomm wifi, although i'm on a compaq lappy with this one.
[03:02] <tritium> !repeat > spuddogg
[03:02] <sklav> sivik, paste the return of the date command
[03:02] <THX-1138> squidly - lvcreate looks ilike an interesting way to create a system wide backup.
[03:02] <CrippsFX> AbortD, no such device
[03:02] <willys_fueguino> someone installed battlefield 2 with cedega??
[03:02] <Jack_Smirnoff> Milchmann: try the ultimate boot cd... livecd with antivirus for xp
[03:02] <sivik> jUggERNAUt1980, did you use ndiswrapper or the broadcom drivers?
[03:02] <jUggERNAUt1980> only problem i had with it is it wouldn't connect to a network with low low signal strangth like it does in windows
[03:02] <lupine_85> spuddogg: have you set up the wep key correctly? ;)
[03:03] <bobbyyu> I have a problem with Java with Kubuntu: It says "The local variable XXX is not read"
[03:03] <Jack_Smirnoff> Milchmann: sorry. you have to google it I am not on my normal pc
[03:03] <jUggERNAUt1980> i used ndiswrapper.
[03:03] <sivik> pm sklav
[03:03] <_tom_> you`re welcome grouchytim , im just glad i could help a little bit, since i didnt know that you just had to edit the /etc/network/interfaces config file ;) After all, I`m just a experienced noob :D
[03:03] <Wikkedfin^> uservu@Ubuntu-Server:~$  tar -xvfz tcl8.4.13-src.tar.gz
[03:03] <Wikkedfin^> tar: z: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[03:03] <Wikkedfin^> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[03:03] <grouchytim> what do i use for IRC?
[03:03] <AbortD> CrippsFX, system>administration>network settings> then click wireless connection and activate?
[03:03] <CrippsFX> jUggERNAUt1980, yeah, I'm on a presario v2750 ...
[03:03] <spuddogg> lupine_85, well it works fine with one card but not the other...i would assume yes
[03:03] <Milchmann> i want to scan another computer via ethernet from my ubuntu system
[03:03] <Wikkedfin^> this file is in there!
[03:03] <jUggERNAUt1980> snagged the broadcomm drivers off the cd that came with the lappy
[03:03] <sivik> Wikkedfin^, no -
[03:03] <THX-1138> tritium - Have you seen "xdestopwaves"?  - great fun.
[03:03] <Milchmann> not booting with a cd
[03:03] <sivik> Wikkedfin^, just sudo tar xvfz filename.tar.gz
[03:03] <spuddogg> tritium, i didnt know that was considered repeating "quickly"
[03:03] <tritium> THX-1138: nope
[03:03] <Wikkedfin^> ah
[03:03] <bobbyyu> I have a problem with Java with Kubuntu: It says "The local variable XXX is not read"
[03:03] <tritium> spuddogg: okay.  Try to wait 5 minutes or so.
[03:03] <sivik> Wikkedfin^, you don't ever need the - anymore
[03:03] <CrippsFX> AbortD, done it. won't work. the one in there is aliased to the native broadcom which has bugs with the 4318 firmware ...
[03:04] <spuddogg> tritium, no prob man....
[03:04] <willys_fueguino> someone installed battlefield 2 with cedega??
[03:04] <lupine_85> or the z/j :)
[03:04] <KromiX> Jack_Smirnoff: check your PM
[03:04] <tritium> spuddogg: :)
[03:04] <tritium> spuddogg: you're sure you've configured WEP properly?
[03:04] <AbortD> why not upgrade the firmware?
[03:04] <_tom_> im using xchat here grouchytim , but there are many clients you could use
[03:04] <Wikkedfin^> uservu@Ubuntu-Server:~$ sudo tar xvfz tcl8.4.13-src.tar.gz
[03:04] <Wikkedfin^> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[03:04] <Wikkedfin^> tar: Child returned status 1
[03:04] <Wikkedfin^> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[03:04] <AbortD> or downgrade if it has bugs
[03:04] <CrippsFX> AbortD, because it's not fixed yet
[03:04] <tritium> Wikkedfin^: stop pasting that please
[03:04] <Wikkedfin^> sorry
[03:04] <grouchytim> xchat huh
[03:04] <grouchytim> ?
[03:04] <AbortD> can't you downgrade?
[03:04] <Jack_Smirnoff> No pm this nick isnt reg'd
[03:04] <CrippsFX> AbortD, and the old ones don't work either. I've tried.
[03:04] <VPN> ok
[03:04] <amorfo> willys_fueguino, don't bother with cedega, trust me it's not worth the trouble and you get crap performance
[03:04] <AbortD> oh
[03:04] <spuddogg> tritium, again, everything works fine with one card, so i can only imagine all settings are correct...maybe a driver problem?
[03:04] <AbortD> you = fucked
[03:04] <_tom_> yup, sudo aptitude install xchat
[03:05] <tritium> !language > AbortD
[03:05] <CrippsFX> AbortD, yeah ... but I need to be !f(screwed)
[03:05] <willys_fueguino> amorfo, then how should I play this game in ubuntu??
[03:05] <tritium> spuddogg: perhaps.  So you're saying WEP works with the other card?
[03:05] <_tom_> its an irc client, you just asked about it ;D
[03:05] <spuddogg> tritium, yes
[03:05] <tritium> spuddogg: where are your WEP settings kept?  In /etc/network/interfaces?
[03:05] <spuddogg> tritium, do i need to run madwifi drivers?
[03:06] <spuddogg> tritium, i never checked that...i configured with the GUI
[03:06] <amorfo> willys_fueguino,  I was exactly like you, I wanted to do everything in ubuntu but unfortunately few good games are made for linux
[03:06] <CrippsFX> jUggERNAUt1980, so ... how did ndiswrApper alias your broadcom card?
[03:06] <KromiX> hey is there any1 here i can bother with noob linux questions? i have like 5 noob questions i have before i make the switch to running a linux distro ( probably ubuntu )...
[03:06] <KromiX> PM of course
[03:06] <tritium> spuddogg: I use an atheros card on my Thinkpad successfully
[03:06] <spuddogg> tritium, /etc/network/interfaces is not a directory
[03:06] <SpacePuppy> ask them in chan KromiX
[03:06] <synjet> KromiX, ask here
[03:06] <tritium> spuddogg: right, it's a file
[03:06] <willys_fueguino> amorfo, what are you saying? that I should go back to windows to play it??
[03:06] <KromiX> oh ok i didn't think here is the appropriate place ;P
[03:07] <grouchytim> yeah i got ya but i did that command and it came up with packages kept back
[03:07] <lostboyz> hi i just installed the xubuntu and my dimensions are really larg
[03:07] <amorfo> willys_fueguino, thats the only thing windows is good for.. and that because devs don't release builds for linux
[03:07] <jUggERNAUt1980> CrippsFX:  it was instantaneous!  there were two different drivers on my cd, and i picked randomly.  it was kinda hit and miss.
[03:07] <CrippsFX> KromiX, for future reference, you don't need to ask to ask ... you can just ask ;)
[03:07] <KromiX> lol
[03:07] <lostboyz> how do i change the dimensions
[03:07] <tritium> spuddogg: "man wireless" for info on how it can be used to configure wireless parameters
[03:07] <tritium> spuddogg: which GUI did you use?
[03:07] <CrippsFX> jUggERNAUt1980, lol. what does ifconfig say about your wireless card?
[03:08] <synjet> lostboyz: screen resolution you mean?
[03:08] <lostboyz> i have a dell lcd monitor
[03:08] <lostboyz> no
[03:08] <lostboyz> the dimensions
[03:08] <jUggERNAUt1980> crap!  i'm in windows right now!
[03:08] <lostboyz> like 640 x480
[03:08] <jUggERNAUt1980> :P
[03:08] <CrippsFX> jUggERNAUt1980, darn!
[03:08] <grouchytim> lol
[03:08] <spuddogg> tritium, i just added the line wireless-key <key> into /etc/network/interfaces.  im going to try my other card now
[03:08] <spuddogg> tritium, brb man
[03:08] <jUggERNAUt1980> you see, i don't "pay" for my inet access, so sometimes i can't get connected in ubuntu over wifi.
[03:08] <grouchytim> jUggERNAUt1980      aghhh we suck again! lol
[03:09] <grouchytim> me too
[03:09] <_tom_> jUggERNAUt1980, klick on..., then on...., then you click there... ;D
[03:09] <synjet> lostboyz: system->preference->screen resolution
[03:09] <grouchytim> lol
[03:09] <grouchytim> need help with windows i'm your guy ..... i know i suck
[03:09] <lostboyz> there are no pref i am using xubuntu
[03:09] <tritium> spuddogg: okay
[03:09] <^Ocean^> sklav, you ever enconter compiz: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing
[03:09] <jUggERNAUt1980> yay for free interLiNk!
[03:09] <synjet> lostboyz: try #xubuntu
[03:10] <sklav> ^Ocean^, install cgwd-themes
[03:10] <sklav> ;)
[03:10] <jUggERNAUt1980> hahaha, poo on windows.
[03:10] <grouchytim> lol
[03:10] <jUggERNAUt1980> it's all just too easy there.
[03:10] <grouchytim> true
[03:10] <kruncher> why does apt-get hold back packages
[03:10] <tritium> kruncher: when a dist-upgrade is required to pull in new package, for example
[03:11] <Slynderdale> Alright, a question to those expieranced with creating a dual boot of Linux and Windows and creating a partition on ane xisting NTFS Windows XP hard drive. Waht do you think is the easiest and less probematic way to go about this without risking data loss or corruption?
[03:11] <Tokenbad> anyone know how to use crontab or whatever its called?
[03:11] <lostboyz> i have a question
[03:11] <lostboyz> how do change the dimensions in xubuntu
[03:11] <jUggERNAUt1980> back up your files and get rid of windows.
[03:11] <kruncher> tritium: thanks, also why did the new flashplugin-nonfree error out while installing?
[03:11] <sethk> Slynderdale, there is no way to resize partitions without risk
[03:12] <sethk> Slynderdale, you must have a backup
[03:12] <grouchytim> you have windows and you don't want data loss or corruption?
[03:12] <KromiX> here comes my Noob questions :) sorry guys tryin 2 make the switch lol
[03:12] <synjet> Slynderdale: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56723
[03:12] <sethk> Slynderdale, you can ask 1000 times, and the answer will still be the same
[03:12] <KromiX> Windoze-Noob questions: 1) Will it affect my network in any way? I'm on a small home network of 4 PC's through a standard Linksys Router. 2) This "wine" can it run ANYTHING from windows without a problem? And should I know anything about it regarding windows stuff? 3) Is gaming hindered since its "made for windows" and there is a program in the middle like Wine or Cedega forcing it to run? 4) whats the best website for assistance
[03:12] <tritium> kruncher: I've only recently heard about that.  Not sure, perhaps a change upstream.  I think it's being addressed presently.
[03:12] <synjet> Slynderdale: but those contain the general disclaimers, dont sue me ;)
[03:12] <sethk> KromiX, no, it definitely cannot run anything from windows without any problems
[03:12] <kruncher> tritium: thanks again, ill just wait and see what happons then
[03:12] <SpacePuppy> KromiX, 1) no. 2) no, most things. 3) depends on the game 4) idunno
[03:13] <czer323> KromiX> It really depends on the applications you want to use.  It's not perfect, but I know they've done a great job making it work with things like Office.
[03:13] <spuddogg_> tritium !!!!
[03:13] <tritium> hey spuddogg_
[03:13] <spuddogg_> tritium, thanks so much man...its working great now
[03:13] <tritium> rockin, spuddogg_ :)
[03:13] <synjet> KrimiX: for free support: you have ubuntuforums.org or IRC, and ubuntuguide.org for help.. for customized help, there is paid support from canonical/ubnutu
[03:13] <Barry_> Hello, all. I have the hedgehog and want to upgrade to the drake. What do I need to do?
[03:13] <spuddogg_> tritium, you mind if i repeat that? lol :)
[03:14] <KromiX> Well I would just use OpenOffice cause it saves in formats for windows office, if i need to turn something in at or school...
[03:14] <Slynderdale> sethk: I figured as much, basicly the question was, which way would be the easiest with the least chance of user error screwing things up basicly. The reason why I have been asking, well, I have no simple way to backup my files :/
[03:14] <tritium> spuddogg_: heh ;)
[03:14] <rredd4> are the updates being tested before they are released to the public?
[03:14] <crimsun> rredd4: yes
[03:14] <rredd4> ok tu
[03:14] <rredd4> ty
[03:14] <synjet> rredd4: ofcourse, free does not equate to unprofessionalism ;)
[03:14] <sklav> Sivik, anything?
[03:15] <Sivik> sklav: i'm on the laptop now
[03:15] <KromiX> Damn thats the only part I'm worried about switching over, is gaming cause I play a game or two every once in a while, I didn't want to hinder game-play :P.... So which should I start with (distro?). I was looking at Kubuntu? or should I just start with regular Ubuntu?
[03:15] <Sivik> now my time in bios is all fubared
[03:15] <rredd4> synjet  after the x update, i guess i am a bit gun shy
[03:15] <tritium> KromiX: do you have a desktop preference?
[03:15] <Sivik> sklav: i'm now fixing it
[03:15] <sklav> Sivik, make sure it set properly
[03:15] <sklav> and then check this out
[03:15] <synjet> rredd4: some glitches do slip in, but see the response time.. that was lightning :)
[03:15] <sklav> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/system-administrator/ch-sysadmin-time.html
[03:16] <KromiX> well in terms of look i liked kubuntu, which is why i'm leaning towards it, unless theres something i should know about it, or if ubuntu is a better 'starter' linux-distro...
[03:16] <orbin> Barry_: you'll have to go to breezy, then to dapper. or just clean-install dapper  IIRC
[03:16] <Sivik> sklav, yeah, no joke
[03:16] <orbin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[03:16] <sklav> Sivik, it says how to fix timezone on commandline
[03:16] <KromiX> is the difference just appearance?
[03:16] <Barry_> orbin: I thought you could skip two releases.
[03:16] <orbin> Barry_: that site says otherwise
[03:16] <Sivik> sklav: now its correct
[03:16] <rredd4> synjet  i did not notice the x update until it was already fixed.  I feel lucky!
[03:17] <sklav> cool
[03:17] <thenetduck> would somone be able to help me get my icons themes set up in Xubuntu ??
[03:17] <synjet> rredd4: :)
[03:17] <zenmonk> Kromix: they are the same thing, they just look differant
[03:17] <Barry_> orbin: Well. That's unfortunate. But, I guess if that's what it takes...
[03:17] <bobbyyu> Where do I go to find help on Java?
[03:17] <synjet> thenetduck: try #xubuntu
[03:17] <thenetduck> :) thanks
[03:17] <thenetduck> #xubuntu
[03:17] <Sivik> sklav: what says it?
[03:18] <thenetduck> doh
[03:18] <stealg> hi how can i connect to internet with my wireless card
[03:18] <tritium> !wifi
[03:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:18] <zenmonk> Kromix: you could get ubuntu, then change to the kde look of kubuntu or vice versa at any time
[03:18] <p00ntang> how do i get on the internets on Ubuntu
[03:18] <sklav> ?
[03:18] <aconley1> can someone tell me how to get an ISA soundblaster 16 card working?
[03:18] <Sivik> stealg, what hareware?
[03:18] <sklav> the url i posted
[03:18] <sklav> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/system-administrator/ch-sysadmin-time.html
[03:18] <Sivik> sklav, yeah, i just missed it
[03:18] <sklav> ah ok
[03:18] <stealg> all the module its ok only i need to know how its the command shell for conect ;)
[03:19] <orbin> bobbyyu: installing?
[03:19] <KromiX> Zenmonk: Oh I can just install regular Ubuntu and then install some kind of kubuntu appearance package or do you mean install kubuntu later
[03:19] <zenmonk> p00ntang: it is often autoconfigured, unless is wireless
[03:19] <stealg> sivik
[03:19] <sklav> i need a coffey
[03:19] <synjet> p00ntang: could you be more descriptive
[03:19] <Sivik> steal: yes
[03:19] <Sivik> stealg, what wireless card?
[03:19] <zenmonk> Kromix: the kubuntu appearance is called KDE, and can be added at any time
[03:19] <stealg> only i need the command line to conect in shell
[03:19] <juank1> I just installed ubuntu, my sound is not working, where can I go to change the driver? I am a windows user trying to move to linux, please be patient
[03:19] <crimsun> juank1: which sound card?
[03:19] <Sivik> stealg, thats fine, its probably ifconfig eth1 (wlan0) up
[03:20] <zenmonk> Kromix: its a matter of personal preferance, but as far as the operating system is concerned, they are identical
[03:20] <TheManiacKY> Is there a console program I can run to login to a msn messenger session?
[03:20] <stealg> Sivik, ip2100
[03:20] <synjet> !sound>juank1
[03:20] <Sivik> stealg, not sure
[03:20] <KromiX> Gotcha
[03:20] <stealg> ok Sivik
[03:20] <tony32269> Does anyone know how to fix the resolution for the log-in screen?
[03:20] <juank1> this is an intel 82801DB
[03:20] <p00ntang> how do i get on the internets on Ubuntu
[03:20] <Brendon> Hi all, i'm trying to run csm (compiz settings manager?) and it says "** ERROR **: couldn't get dbus", is there a package i need to install that i do not have? I've installed all the dbus packages thru apt-get, thanks in advance.
[03:21] <grouchytim> ok i'm trying to install xchat but it keeps holding back packages
[03:21] <Canucky> Create custom clipart & funny ecards on http://www.txt2pic.com ;)
[03:21] <Sivik> sklav, thanks
[03:21] <crimsun> juank1: pastebin the output from: lspci -nv && cat /proc/asound/cards /proc/interrupts
[03:21] <grouchytim> any help on this one?
[03:21] <zenmonk> Kromix: you could get kubuntu, then change to ubuntu look if you wanted too
[03:21] <lostboyz> i have /dev/sda1 extra space /dev/sda2 old home part /dev/sda3 new home and xubuntu and /dev/sda4 swap how do i make /dev/sda2 the home folder and bypass the new home folder?
[03:21] <synjet> grouchytim: apt-get -f install
[03:21] <grouchytim> thanx
[03:21] <TheManiacKY> Is there a console program I can run to login to a msn messenger session?
[03:21] <ladydoor> TheManiacKY: get bitlbee
[03:21] <Sivik> TheManiacKY, did you try googling it?
[03:21] <TheManiacKY> ladydoor thanks
[03:21] <ladydoor> TheManiacKY: you can use it from within an irc client
[03:22] <zenmonk> Kromix: some people consider KDE more user friendly for new windows users
[03:22] <Bird> I need help on partitioning my drives
[03:22] <stealg> Sivik, so stealg@stealg-laptop:~/Desktop/ndiswrapper-1.23$ sudo ifconfig eth1 wlan0 up
[03:22] <stealg> wlan0: Host desconocido
[03:22] <stealg> ifconfig: `--help' gives usage information.
[03:22] <ladydoor> TheManiacKY: (in fact, that's the only way to use it)
[03:22] <Sivik> zenmonk, i would have to agree with you there
[03:22] <Bird> what commands do I use to Partion Drives?
[03:22] <TheManiacKY> ladydoor Like with BitchX
[03:22] <TheManiacKY> ?
[03:22] <Sivik> stealg, one of the other, not both
[03:22] <grouchytim> says couldn't find package xchat
[03:22] <stealg> ok Sivik
[03:22] <Sivik> stealg, it depends on where you is done
[03:22] <rouben> Bird: try fdisk or cfdisk
[03:22] <zenmonk> but I am still a gnome fan myself :)
[03:22] <sklav> grouchytim, make sure you have universe enabled
[03:22] <ladydoor> TheManiacKY: yeah. i use it in irssi, personally, but that's just personal preference :-)
[03:22] <synjet> !partition>Bird
[03:22] <Bird> Thank your rouben
[03:23] <rouben> Bird: yer welcome! :)
[03:23] <grouchytim> where do i check universe
[03:23] <i_am_the_pwn> hey, i'm running dapper on a rather long-in-tooth machine (mobile p3 @1.2 ghz w/256mb ram) and was wondering where i could go within GNOME to kill some apps and otherwise streamline my system
[03:23] <ladydoor> !bitlbee
[03:23] <ubotu> bitlbee: An IRC to other chat networks gateway. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1 (dapper), package size 291 kB, installed size 756 kB
[03:23] <juank1> crimsun: I'll go do that, thanks
[03:23] <ladydoor> grouchytim: yup
[03:23] <ladydoor> grouchytim: wait, sorry
[03:23] <ladydoor> !xchat
[03:23] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[03:23] <i_am_the_pwn> i found a 'services' tab in system, but it was of limited use
[03:23] <ladydoor> grouchytim: yup
[03:23] <ArrenLex> !kde
[03:23] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[03:23] <synjet> grouchytim: you updated your repos and still error?
[03:23] <ArrenLex> Hehe.
[03:24] <rouben> i_am_the_pwn: what exactly are you trying to kill? you mean unneeded services/background processes?
[03:24] <grouchytim> didn't update repos but did that update from before
[03:24] <rredd4> when I go to watch a video online (with firefox), how can I watch it in fullscreen.  When I right click, I do not see full screen option.
[03:24] <grouchytim> or was that the repo update
[03:24] <Sivik> has anyone been having problems with the flashplugin-nonfree
[03:25] <crimsun> Sivik: what sort of problems?
[03:25] <synjet> grouchytim: you updated the packages.. for getting more applis, you might have to enable some sources.. check yours agains the one at ubuntuguide.org
[03:25] <Bird> I am on the administrator account and I cant get into root when i type in Su in the terminal what am i doing wrong?
[03:25] <i_am_the_pwn> rouben:  basically, yes.  i haven't any trouble with my desktop, but my laptop lags quite a bit under normal loads
[03:25] <synjet> Bird: it is "su"
[03:25] <grouchytim> ok thanx
[03:25] <Bird> yes i type in su
[03:25] <ladydoor> Bird: also, perhaps instead try sudo -i
[03:25] <synjet> Bird: it is "sudo -i"
[03:26] <rouben> i_am_the_pwn: have you tried running top (or htop) or a GUI equivalent thereof? Usually Linux is pretty good at not wasting CPU cycles with sleeping processes
[03:26] <Sivik> crimsun: usage: dpkg: error processing flashplugon-nonfree (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[03:26] <Bird> Thank your sudo -i worked
[03:26] <rouben> i_am_the_pwn: chances are the lag is due to a slow video card
[03:26] <Bird> I was using the knoppix way.
[03:26] <ladydoor> Bird: to use su you need to set the root password...but try sudo -i instead
[03:26] <domibel> sivik, i had the same error
[03:26] <rouben> i_am_the_pwn: or non-hardware accellerated video drivers :)
[03:26] <Canucky> Make free images & funny ecards on http://www.txt2pic.com ;)
[03:26] <orbin> i_am_the_pwn: more RAM couldn't hurt either
[03:26] <i_am_the_pwn> rouben: damn this gma830 all to hell
[03:26] <crimsun> Sivik: that's due to an overzealous backport requester. I worked around it already. Just update && upgrade.
[03:26] <synjet> Bird: and I was telling it the same way :) su is disabled for ubuntu
[03:27] <Sivik> crimsun;  apt-get update && upgrade?
[03:27] <rouben> i_am_the_pwn: ?
[03:27] <crimsun> Sivik: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:27] <CodeBot> !ati
[03:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:27] <Bird> What command can I use to make a new partition?
[03:27] <Sivik> ok
[03:27] <orbin> Canucky: stop it
[03:27] <TheManiacKY> exit
[03:27] <Canucky> but its fun
[03:28] <Falcongrinder> I re-installed ark and unrar-free and I still get this. The utility unrar is not in your PATH.
[03:28] <Falcongrinder> Please install it or contact your system administrator.
[03:28] <Sivik> crimsun, that gave me the same error
[03:28] <zenmonk> Bird: I am not sure there is 1 for terminal, but gparted works well
[03:28] <i_am_the_pwn> rouben: haven't run top, or anything like that, but i can see how my antiquated gpu could be causing problems
[03:28] <Bird> thanks
[03:28] <Falcongrinder> anyone else have this problem?
[03:28] <lostboyz> hi how do i make my old home folder my new home folder? i am a suse transplant
[03:28] <Flannel> lostboyz: just edit your fstab to mount your old one in plcae
[03:28] <orbin> it's spamming and it's offtopic
[03:28] <lostboyz> oh great thank you
[03:28] <synjet> Falcongrinder: you could install, yet cant access due to non-admin probs?
[03:29] <lostboyz> also i was wondering why is not sound working?
[03:29] <rredd4> is there a way to see full screen vids using firefox?
[03:29] <lostboyz> i try to play a mp3 but it doesn't star
[03:29] <lostboyz> i am using xubuntu
[03:29] <Falcongrinder> i installed thru the synaptic package manager
[03:29] <rouben> i_am_the_pwn: hehe, i see. Unfortunately X is quite sensitive to slow GPUs, in part due to its inefficient design and in part due to 99% of all drivers for X being software
[03:29] <synjet> rredd4: mplayer or flash?
[03:29] <Bird> Is their anyway I can get a friends I.P. address from a email they send me?
[03:29] <ladydoor> lostboyz: is your old home dir on a separate partition
[03:29] <lostboyz> yes
[03:29] <lostboyz> it is ladydoor
[03:29] <zenmonk> lostboyz: did u download codecs for mp3?
[03:29] <rredd4> synjet mplayer  (online vids)
[03:29] <Sivik> Bird: yes
[03:29] <lostboyz> oh no
[03:29] <lostboyz> how do i do that
[03:30] <Bird> Sivik
[03:30] <Flannel> !tell lostboyz about mp3
[03:30] <Sivik> Bird: its rather difficult though
[03:30] <lostboyz> sorry i thought it was in already
[03:30] <Bird> How would I do it?
[03:30] <ladydoor> lostboyz: you need to adding it to the fstab, probably
[03:30] <synjet> rredd4: right click, and say full-screen
[03:30] <ladydoor> lostboyz: *add it, rather
[03:30] <i_am_the_pwn> rouben: well, that explains much. just ran top and everything seems to be fine (averaging about 12 percent cpu load)
[03:30] <synjet> rredd4: firefox-mplayer plugin allows me that
[03:30] <Bird> Sivik: How would I go about doing it?
[03:30] <Sivik> has anyone been having problems with the flashplugin-nonfree
[03:30] <rredd4> synjet using the mozilla plug in   do not see full screen...
[03:30] <Sivik> Bird: google it
[03:30] <zenmonk> lostboyz: see this page http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[03:31] <Bird> Sivik: I have.
[03:31] <Mouse> How are you doing?
[03:31] <Flannel> lostboyz: ubotu sent you a link, read it ;)  no need to use ubuntuguide
[03:31] <rredd4> synjet  i am using the firefox mozilla plugin
[03:31] <rouben> i_am_the_pwn: just to illustrate, when i was running the nv driver on my box with an nVidia Gefore4, my memory usage was around 500megs. When I switched to the binary driver, the memory usage almost went down 50%
[03:31] <synjet> rredd4: no idea whats wrong with your setup, it works for me :)
[03:31] <Sivik> Bird: i know there is a way to do it, but i'm not sure how
[03:31] <Sivik> Bird: i don't do much hacking
[03:31] <rouben> my guess is the nv driver used regular system ram instead of video ram! :(
[03:31] <lostboyz> yes i was also curious i tried both ubuntu and xubuntu but my res is still like 640x 480 i am using 19 in monitor dell lcd and there are no options to change it can i copy my old suse xorg.conf and rewrite it in the X11 folder?
[03:31] <i_am_the_pwn> rouben: wow.
[03:31] <rredd4> synjet ok, maybe i will reinstall
[03:31] <Bird> Sivik: Its not hacking but thanks anyways.
[03:31] <crimsun> Sivik: apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree |grep Candidate
[03:31] <Falcongrinder> anyone? ark?
[03:31] <rouben> so yeah, drivers make a big diff
[03:31] <alex222> hey where can i get this? Make sure you have the Gecko SDK installed.??
[03:31] <synjet> rredd4: no no.. I didnt mean that
[03:32] <rouben> especially if you run something heavyweight, like KDE or gnome
[03:32] <rouben> i_am_the_pwn: have you considered xfce? might be just what your laptop needs :)
[03:32] <Sivik> crimsun: ok
[03:32] <rouben> i_am_the_pwn: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, I believe
[03:32] <kitche> Bird: cfdisk, fdisk if you wanted a partitioner still
[03:32] <i_am_the_pwn> rouben: consider it considered, my friend
[03:32] <crimsun> Sivik: meaning, tell me the output
[03:32] <twysted`> hey guys can someone help me with a routing issue with multipul providers?
[03:32] <rredd4> synjet how can i check my setup then?
[03:32] <Flannel> !tell lostboyz about fixres
[03:32] <Sivik> crimsun: 7.8.68~ubuntu1~dapper1
[03:32] <Sivik> crimsun, i figured as such
[03:32] <rouben> i_am_the_pwn: well, give it a spin. if you want a preview, check the ubuntu website
[03:33] <orbin> lostboyz: yes, or you could follow this: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:33] <orbin> bah, too late :-/
[03:33] <i_am_the_pwn> rouben:thank you much
[03:33] <synjet> rredd4: tried this? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28Mplayer.29_with_plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[03:33] <i_am_the_pwn> rouben: auf Wiedersehen
[03:33] <rredd4> ok
[03:33] <lostboyz> thank you Flannel
[03:33] <Sivik> crimsun, what should i try to fix that
[03:34] <crimsun> Sivik: that's the old package.
[03:34] <crimsun> Sivik: your mirror hasn't synced yet
[03:34] <Sivik> ok
[03:34] <sklav> anybody know of a good web developement IDE in Ubuntu?
[03:35] <lupine_85> kate? :p
[03:35] <lupine_85> or gedit?
[03:35] <Flannel> sklav: any text editor ;)
[03:35] <Sivik> crimsun, ok, then what do i need to try to do, get a different mirror?
[03:35] <sklav> hehe
[03:35] <sklav> that i know
[03:35] <sklav> but im getting lazy with age
[03:35] <lupine_85> nVu for html, I suppose
[03:35] <lupine_85> !nvu
[03:35] <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 8343 kB, installed size 26440 kB
[03:35] <sklav> i use vim usually
[03:35] <Flannel> sklav: nvu is a WYSIWYG
[03:35] <synjet> sklav: tried nvu?
[03:35] <CodeBot> me ftw
[03:35] <CodeBot> !ftw
[03:35] <sklav> nope but i will
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ftw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <lupine_85> snap, crackle...
[03:35] <crimsun> Sivik: sure
[03:36] <Sivik> crimsun, could you give me a mirror that would have a good version of it?
[03:36] <lostboyz> is it ok to copy and paste the suse xorg.conf file or would that cause inconsistencies?
[03:36] <BlueEagle> !info gnomemeeting
[03:36] <ubotu> Package gnomemeeting does not exist in any distro I know
[03:36] <Flannel> !ekiga
[03:36] <ubotu> ekiga: Free Your Speech. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.1-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 3572 kB, installed size 12188 kB
[03:36] <synjet> !gnomemeeting>BlueEagle
[03:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnomemeeting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:37] <ladydoor> !paste
[03:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:37] <ladydoor> lostboyz: ^
[03:37] <lostboyz> i dunno what ^ is sorry
[03:37] <Flannel> gnomemeeting has been renamed ekiga
[03:37] <lostboyz> ladydoor
[03:37] <ladydoor> lostboyz: it means "look up"
[03:37] <crimsun> Sivik: archive.ubuntu.com
[03:37] <synjet> ladydoor: he was asking if using suse xorg would cause probs, I think
[03:37] <Sivik> thats what it is already as
[03:37] <rredd4> synjet it says      mozilla-mplayer is already the newest version
[03:37] <spuddogg> Has anyone ever seen an error like this?  Makefile.inc:124: *** Cannot determine kernel architecture, please check /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build/.config.  Stop.
[03:37] <ladydoor> synjet: the actual question was about pasting a whole xorg.conf to the channel
[03:38] <synjet> rredd4: what does right-clicking on the video do?
[03:38] <synjet> ladydoor: oh, my bad
[03:38] <ladydoor> synjet: no worries
[03:38] <spuddogg> ladydoor, nice to see you :)
[03:38] <Sivik> crimsun, thats how my sources.list is already set
[03:38] <ladydoor> spuddogg: hello. you too
[03:39] <Sivik> crimsun, ok, i just got an E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 esource temporarily unavailable)
[03:39] <bruenig> Sivik, close synaptic or update manager if they are open
[03:39] <Sivik> nvm, figured it out
[03:40] <Sivik> still doesn't fix the error with the flashplugin-nofree
[03:40] <spuddogg> ladydoor, have you ever seen an error like this? Makefile.inc:124: *** Cannot determine kernel architecture, please check /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build/.config.
[03:40] <alex222> hey can sombody help me??
[03:40] <alex222> Type ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/libxpcom.so /usr/lib
[03:40] <alex222> Restart Opera.
[03:40] <ladydoor> spuddogg: nope...i'm sorry
[03:40] <alex222> when i do that it says command not found
[03:40] <alex222> -s /usr/lib/mozilla/libxpcom.so /usr/lib
[03:40] <spuddogg> ladydoor, ok, thanks anyway
[03:42] <jrib> alex222: opera says that?
[03:42] <thread> wow ok I've narrowed down my problem. When my partition table looks like this: http://threadbox.net/fdisk.txt windows pukes all over itself very early in boot: http://threadbox.net/bsodthx.jpg but when I delete the latter 3 of my 4 partitions, I find windows boots up just fine! (I've found that I can easily use testdisk to salvage my partition table.)
[03:42] <alex222> jrib, im trying to install a plugin
[03:42] <knixtech> can anyone help me setup mysql?
[03:42] <Flannel> !tell knixtech about lamp
[03:42] <alex222> and that's the instructions
[03:42] <Flannel> knixtech: that'll walk you through it ;) if you just want mysql, sans the php/apache etc stuff, just ignore the other bits ;)
[03:43] <knixtech> Flannel, i have that installed, i cant create the root user
[03:43] <synjet> alex222: trying to get real songs working embedded?
[03:43] <alex222> no
[03:43] <Flannel> knixtech: that page covers it, or you having problems with those commands even?
[03:43] <alex222> http://www.opera.com/linux/docs/plugins/install/ - mplayer
[03:43] <alex222> synjet
[03:43] <knixtech> Flannel, i didnt see the link
[03:43] <bam_> hi. Does anyone know why I cant get kdesu to work properly? all I get is an error with "kdesu: Don't need password!!" and a couple of other lines in it.
[03:43] <Flannel> knixtech: check your PM from ubotu
[03:44] <knixtech> o
[03:44] <kitche> knixtech: well there is a root user already for mysql I had to point many users to a root reset for mysql
[03:44] <knixtech> nice
[03:44] <Sivik> ok, now i'm getting issues with mdadm
[03:44] <jojoman02> what is a good dvd ripping program to save to xvid/divx and mp3 (for audio)
[03:44] <Samuli^> how did you auth yourself on this network?
[03:44] <CodeBot> !ati
[03:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:44] <CodeBot> thx
[03:44] <jrib> alex222: are you sure you typed the whole thing: ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/libxpcom.so /usr/lib     ?
[03:44] <Sivik> Samuli^, "/nickserv identify
[03:44] <lostboyz> i think i need to install the fglrx driver for xubuntu how do i do that?
[03:44] <Sivik> without the "
[03:44] <Samuli^> Sivik, thanks.
[03:44] <Sivik> Samuli^, yw
[03:44] <knixtech> kitche, i was just following the directions that the ubuntu server guide had
[03:45] <Samuli^> sweet.
[03:45] <knixtech> i keep getting access denied
[03:45] <synjet> alex222: oh ok, got it to work with ff?
[03:45] <alex222> uhh i dunno
[03:45] <kitche> knixtech: well I know after they did a mysql root reset mysql started to work fine for them think the packager hs a root password already set for mysql
[03:45] <alex222> i dont use firefox
[03:45] <alex222> it's sucks in my opinion
[03:45] <Sivik> alex222, what do you use?
[03:45] <knixtech> kitche, ty
[03:45] <alex222> i like opera.. trying to get all the plugins working
[03:46] <Sivik> alex222, why don't you like firefox?
[03:46] <synjet> alex222: opera rocks, no doubt :)
[03:46] <knixtech> kitche, Flannel ty, i think i got it
[03:46] <Sivik> alex222, its 800 times better than Internet Exploder
[03:46] <ninjakttty> I've got a weird problem, anytime I try to use something with opengl, it only displays 1/2 of what its supposed to, can someone point me in the right direction of what to do?
[03:46] <synjet> Sivik: I doubt those stats, but opera is faster than FF (before we get offtopic) :)
[03:46] <Sivik> now i'm getting all kinds of errors when i run sudo apt-get upgrade or sudo apt-get -f install
[03:47] <Sivik> synjet: i know opera is faster than FF but their both better then IE
[03:47] <Roger_The_Bum> I just installed vncserver and fogot the password
[03:47] <Sivik> synacktion, i was just making a point
[03:47] <Roger_The_Bum> any way I can reset the pw?
[03:47] <alex222> ahh did anyone get the divx plugin working with opera??
[03:47] <_tom_> dillo is better than firefox and opera ;D
[03:48] <Sivik> wtf is dillo?
[03:48] <kitche> Roger_The_Bum: check vncserver's config it should be in there
[03:48] <synjet> _tom_ lynx? :P
[03:48] <_tom_> actually im using ff, opera, and dillo :)
[03:48] <Woosta> Is there any way to find out how a package was compiled? eg I need to know if spidermonkey was compiled with JS_THREADSAFE or not ..
[03:48] <kitche> Sivik: a light-weight browser that was made by w3c
[03:48] <ninjakttty> I have a screenshot to show what I mean http://www.ninjakitty.net/yuri/bitbucket/video.png
[03:48] <grouchytim_> hey _tom_ i'm back
[03:48] <_tom_> a little browser synjet
[03:48] <Sivik> kitche, does it have tab ability
[03:48] <synjet> tom: make sure you dont typo when you use dillo ;)
[03:48] <grouchytim_> but i don't really have any issues any more
[03:48] <grouchytim_> i'm on xchat finally and i'ts nice
[03:48] <CodeBot> !butt secks
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about butt secks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <lostboyz> what is a good firewall for ubuntu? i hear it doesn't come with one
[03:48] <lostboyz> and how do i update the system?
[03:48] <CodeBot> WHAT
[03:48] <jrib> !firewall
[03:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[03:48] <nbjayme> hello, we have ubuntu and winXP workstations.  Any cross-platform backup solutions that anybody know of?
[03:48] <_tom_> nice to hear grouchytim
[03:48] <kitche> Sivik: maybe I know some pages won't load right due to how it works
[03:48] <CodeBot> HAHAHA
[03:48] <CodeBot> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHHA!!!!!!!!!!
[03:48] <grouchytim_> now i'll leave you alone
[03:49] <synjet> CodeBot: pllease dont abuse
[03:49] <grouchytim_> thanx for all the help though
[03:50] <jrib> lostboyz: when there are updates available and orange icon will show up in your notification area in the panel telling you about the upgrades.  You can then click on it and update your system.  (Or you can use synaptic)
[03:50] <jrib> lostboyz: s/and/an
[03:50] <lostboyz> oh thanks
[03:50] <lostboyz> s/ and /an what is that?
[03:50] <jrib> lostboyz: substitute "and" with "an"    because I made a typo
[03:50] <lostboyz> i am using xubuntu so it is different i found it thanks
[03:50] <lostboyz> oh
[03:50] <lostboyz> i see
[03:51] <lostboyz> i think xubuntu is too new because there are only 60 users there and no one answer my questions
[03:51] <PoisonedV> Hello
[03:51] <lostboyz> but at least my system is flying :D
[03:51] <jrib> lostboyz: help.ubuntu.com has a starter guide that should let you know how to do general things in xubuntu
[03:51] <CodeBot> lol
[03:52] <lostboyz> oh sweet thanks
[03:52] <_tom_> lostboyz, if youwant a firewall, try firestarter
[03:52] <lostboyz> thank
[03:52] <lostboyz> you
[03:52] <mirf> why?
[03:52] <tritium> CodeBot: why?
[03:52] <rastaman> i like ubuntu
[03:53] <sklav> CodeBot, that is almost offensive ;)
[03:53] <rastaman> first night trying it out
[03:53] <CodeBot> I dunno I've only ever used ubuntu
[03:53] <PoisonedV> Can I have some help in ubuntu? I orded some of the free discs, booted, etc. and got to intalling it. On the screen where it said stuff like "erase whole hard drive", I clicked the first option and it had a slider. I definatly don't want to delete my whole harddrive, but I want to know what that one does.
[03:53] <lostboyz> what is a command line irc chat in ubuntu that is good
[03:53] <lostboyz> in case my X system crashes
[03:53] <lostboyz> because i am gonna pimp it out to the linux gods now
[03:53] <yanger> when i am in a screen process, backspace does not work, how to adjust? TERM= ?
[03:53] <rastaman> bitchx is a good cli irc client
[03:53] <ladydoor> lostboyz: irssi is good, a lot of people like bitchx
[03:53] <lostboyz> yeah but i search for bitchx
[03:53] <lostboyz> and it was not there
[03:54] <jrib> !info bitchx
[03:54] <ubotu> bitchx: Advanced Internet Relay Chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-4 (dapper), package size 1467 kB, installed size 6476 kB
[03:54] <Laptop765> hey, somewhat new to linux here, tried out ubuntu on recommendation of a lot of people and love it lots [wiping my windows partition soon] 
[03:54] <jrib> ubotu: tell lostboyz about universe
[03:54] <Laptop765> anyone know how to disable the alt-left-click moving a window?
[03:54] <troy> what username and password is cups asking for at localhost:631 --?
[03:54] <kitche> lostboyz: big B and big X
[03:54] <pink1> I installed Dapper on a MacBook Pro and now I can't hold Ctrl and right-click with it.  How do I right-click now?
[03:54] <lostboyz> oh thank you
[03:54] <lostboyz> haha
[03:54] <CodeBot> sklav lol sorry
[03:54] <kitche> troy: root password
[03:55] <motin_> What's a good, stable/reliable, multi-threaded, smart ftp-client in the GNU/Linux world? I have been running kftpgrabber a while but it is far too buggy
[03:55] <troy> kitche: does that mean I have to create a root password to do this?
[03:55] <coder___> Is it possible to have CDs or a DVD holding packages and use Synaptic/apt to use it as an APT Repository?
[03:55] <kitche> troy: it should accept the user username and password not sure if it will work but cups usually goes by root info
[03:55] <_tom_> hehe, i think in some distribution (SUSE maybe? ) bitchx was marked as potentially unsuitable, because of the cussword in it ;)
[03:55] <coder___> My friend has no internet connection on one of his PCs and wants to install Ubuntu on it.
[03:55] <mirf> I can only access one of my soundcards
[03:55] <sklav> CodeBot, ive tried them all and to be honest they are more or less the same but if you must try fedora cause most of the others are a bit of a let down
[03:55] <ladydoor> troy: you can use sudo, or if you want to be root you can do sudo -i, which emulates logging in as root
[03:55] <lupine_85> Yet SuSE carried the (unmodified) fortune?
[03:55] <mirf> onboard (primary) works but I cna't get anythign from my pci card
[03:55] <sklav> openSuSe is ok but i find it slow
[03:56] <CodeBot> ok sklav
[03:56] <_tom_> lupine_85, dunno, but it was funny :)
[03:56] <sklav> Ubuntu is still your first thought and most likely memorable
[03:56] <RagePrblm> Can someone help me out with Flash Player for firefox
[03:56] <kitche> ladydoor: he's connecting to cups he wouldn't use sudo for that
[03:56] <mirf> RagePrblm, I found I had to download and install manually
[03:56] <jrib> RagePrblm: just installing it?
[03:57] <din> anyone know where i can get a repo for mpd-svn?
[03:57] <troy> ladydoor: cups stinks, it's a web based admin tool so no sudo :/
[03:57] <pink1> Is there a way to add a shortcut to right clicking?  Like holding down Ctrl and left-clicking will be interpreted by Ubuntu as a right-click?
[03:57] <RagePrblm> I just installed it via the terminal with sudo, and the files did get installed into the /usr/lib/mozilla directory, but flash doesnt work in the firefox browser
[03:57] <ladydoor> kitche: ok, so sudo elinks/w3m/links/lynx, go to the url
[03:57] <ladydoor> *shrug*
[03:57] <sklav> RagePrblm, type about:plugins in firefox
[03:57] <RagePrblm> ok
[03:57] <ladydoor> kitche: anyway, i need to go to that whole "real life" thing. good luck!
[03:57] <sklav> see if flash is listed
[03:58] <RagePrblm> It says no plugins are installed....Grrr!
[03:58] <jrib> RagePrblm: did you close all instances of firefox and then open it again?
[03:58] <RagePrblm> Yes, I can try reinstalling
[03:58] <kitche> ladydoor: lol I m watching a show on discovery right now not really paying much attention to irc
[03:58] <sklav> RagePrblm, problem might be related to mozilla plugins directory
[03:58] <CodeBot> Kubuntu live cd?
[03:58] <sklav> im guessing it installed under mozilla/plugins
[03:58] <RagePrblm> let me check
[03:58] <sklav> you might be missing a simlink
[03:58] <CodeBot> :O
[03:59] <Samuli^> kitche, are you impliying that watching tv is real life? :)
[03:59] <bruenig> RagePrblm, ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[03:59] <Dink> i see you are in here... good place to ask questions and learn a bit :)
[03:59] <RagePrblm> flash would not let me install to that dir
[03:59] <kitche> Samuli^: well it's about a house in the next town from me
[03:59] <CodeBot> lol @ ur internet
[03:59] <CodeBot> NOW!
[03:59] <sklav> RagePrblm, did you use sudo?
[03:59] <bruenig> RagePrblm, that is where the plugins are, get it in there
[03:59] <RagePrblm> yes sir
[03:59] <sklav> if not you dont have permissions
[03:59] <RagePrblm> ok let me try again
[03:59] <Laptop765> does anyone know a way to disable alt-left click [and right click for that matter]  from manipulating the window?  i'm trying to get some games running under wine and  i need the use of the alt button
[04:00] <Samuli^> kitche, okay.
[04:00] <jrib> bruenig: though both work, I think /usr/lib/firefox/plugins is suppose to be used now
[04:00] <bruenig> jrib, I have always used the other one. But they are in both and are symlinked in my .mozilla directory just to be sure
[04:00] <Roger_The_Bum> where are the vncserver config files
[04:00] <ziro01> out of interest
[04:01] <cyberfr0g> private
[04:01] <Roger_The_Bum>  /etc/vncserver ?
[04:02] <RagePrblm> the installer says that /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins is not a valid installation dir
[04:02] <ludedeeds> dern, jack_sparrow is gone
[04:02] <RagePrblm> neither is /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[04:02] <bruenig> RagePrblm, can you cd into those directories?
[04:02] <RagePrblm> yet when I check the dir the two files needed ARE in the usr/lib/mozilla/plugins dir
[04:02] <ludedeeds> RagePrblm: you trying to install flash?
[04:02] <RagePrblm> oh wait
[04:02] <bruenig> RagePrblm, just copy the flashplayer.xpt and libflashplayer.so over
[04:02] <RagePrblm> no its not
[04:02] <bruenig> unzip it and copy those over
[04:03] <RagePrblm> ok ill try
[04:03] <lostboyz> how do you test a xorg file without restarting?
[04:03] <RagePrblm> bruenig:  to which dir the mozilla-firefox one or just the mozilla one
[04:03] <ludedeeds> RagePrblm: if so... just stop trying to sudo it, just run it as normal user
[04:03] <mkquist> anyone have any idea why gnome wont start, just keeps going back to login screen???
[04:03] <lostboyz> i am thinking your xorg file is misconfigured
[04:03] <kitche> mkquist: errors might help a bit check your Xorg.0.log should be in /var/log
[04:03] <bruenig> RagePrblm, mozilla-firefox/plugins and the firefox/plugins dir per jribs suggestion
[04:04] <ludedeeds> RagePrblm: if you simply do ./flash-installer, it should autodetect firefox directory
[04:04] <bruenig> ludedeeds, he said it wasn't
[04:04] <mkquist> kithe - k ill take a looksee
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[04:04] <bruenig> !ops
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[04:04] <HellDragon> wtf
[04:04] <HellDragon> ???
[04:04] <rastaman> heh
[04:04] <Roger_The_Bum> klined!
[04:04] <HellDragon> it was proxy...again
[04:05] <sklav> at least someone is getting lucky ;)
[04:05] <kitche> hello christel: nalioth killed the person already
[04:05] <christel> just waiting for them to show up again :)
[04:05] <sklav> wow i thought that shit happens only on msn
[04:05] <christel> been going on a few days
[04:05] <RagePrblm> Ubuntu says I do not have permissions to write to the plugins folder
[04:06] <sklav> christel, report them to #freenode
[04:06] <Roger_The_Bum> RagePrblm: did you sudo?
[04:06] <bruenig> RagePrblm,  you have to use sudo, are you using the terminal or the file manager?
[04:06] <christel> ...
[04:06] <kitche> sklav: she's a staff member :)
[04:06] <myatthu> RagePrblm, sudo can always fix that problem :P
[04:06] <sklav> ah i ddint know
[04:06] <RagePrblm> no im just using the gui I dont konw much about how to use sudo or the terminal
[04:06] <sklav> my apologies
[04:06] <RagePrblm> I used the terminal to install but thats about it
[04:06] <Roger_The_Bum> oh
[04:06] <myatthu> !sudo
[04:06] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:06] <Roger_The_Bum> I think there was this one script that I did
[04:06] <christel> thats quite alright sklav :)
[04:07] <Roger_The_Bum> it lets you sudo in nautilus
[04:07] <bruenig> RagePrblm, ok, well if you don't want to use the terminal to cp the files over, just do gksudo nautilus in the terminal to get a root file manager that will allow you to copy over the files with the gui
[04:07] <RagePrblm> Ok thank you
[04:07] <Roger_The_Bum> that works too
[04:08] <Laptop765> >	does anyone know a way to disable alt-left click [and right click for that matter]  from manipulating the window? i'm trying to get some games running under wine and i need the use of the alt button
[04:08] <ludedeeds> i got a job at Dell today.. now it's time to start up a computer reselling business =P
[04:08] <sklav> ludedeeds, im in
[04:08] <sklav> need a partner?
[04:09] <ludedeeds> sklav: mayhap, i haven't really decided yet what i'm going to do.. i might not even really have time
[04:09] <bruenig> ludedeeds, make sure you put my way search assistant on all of the computers you sell
[04:09] <pink1> Is there a way to add a shortcut to right clicking?  Like holding down Ctrl and left-clicking will be interpreted by Ubuntu as a right-click?
[04:09] <peruano> hi guys
[04:09] <Roger_The_Bum> hey it works :D
[04:09] <Roger_The_Bum> thanks
[04:09] <ludedeeds> bruenig: rofl.. what for?
[04:09] <jazzrocker> hehehe, each of their computers only costs them like $3.67 in raw materials an $0.02 for cheap foreign labor
[04:09] <sklav> Laptop765,  under preferences "keyboard shortcuts"
[04:09] <jazzrocker> so it's not like you're really ripping them off by stealing their computers :P
[04:09] <sklav> Laptop765,  system under preferences "keyboard shortcuts"
[04:09] <bruenig> dell puts that on all of their computers and makes it impossible to uninstall
[04:10] <RagePrblm> Thanks guys! It worked! Geniuses is what you are!
[04:10] <Laptop765> i see one for move screen is alt-f7
[04:10] <sklav> remove it
[04:10] <sklav> and then it wont affect you
[04:10] <bruenig> RagePrblm, now you will get to watch out of sync flash vidoes, hoorah
[04:10] <Laptop765> that will get rid of the mouse too?
[04:10] <sklav> but remember what you change
[04:10] <RagePrblm> Frikkin aye!
[04:10] <joshmoz> is there a way to download a pre-release version of the Ubuntu release coming out next month, one I can install via CD, and if possible can just package update to the release?
[04:10] <RagePrblm> brb
[04:10] <myatthu> RagePrblm, i suggest you get to know sudo very well ... you need to use it alot ..
[04:10] <sklav> i think it would
[04:11] <bruenig> joshmoz, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/knot-3/
[04:11] <sklav> try it and see
[04:11] <looktj> anyone have serial for vmware?
[04:11] <bon> i just got a freeview box and i can only get 5 chanels i have a winfast pvr using cox cable to connect them - and kdetv tryed tvtime as well
[04:11] <sklav> looktj, they are free
[04:11] <ludedeeds> bruenig: i mainly took the job for all the discounts and mass availability of all the OEM software i can cram down my pants
[04:11] <joshmoz> bruenig: thanks! for future reference, how did you find that page without having to ask?
[04:11] <sklav> in the download section they ask how many you need
[04:11] <Laptop765> it seemed like it messed upt the game
[04:11] <mkquist> kitche - any ideas what i might be looking for?
[04:11] <Laptop765> but that might be becasue i'm in it now
[04:11] <Laptop765> i'll look into it
[04:11] <Laptop765> thanks
[04:12] <sklav> np
[04:12] <ludedeeds> not to mention the benefits of working for a fortune 25 company
[04:12] <kitche> mkquist: any errors should eb toward the end of the log
[04:12] <joshmoz> bruenig: and what is a "knot" - what does that mean?
[04:12] <bruenig> joshmoz, I went to this great site kind of underground right now but I think it will be big, called google. Then typed "knot 3 download"
[04:12] <bruenig> clicked the first link and voila
[04:12] <Sivik> i'm tired of this stupid issue with flashplugin-nonfree
[04:13] <mkquist> !pastebin
[04:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:13] <bruenig> joshmoz, apparently efts have knots on their head and because the next version is called edgy eft, they are calling thier betas knots
[04:13] <bruenig> dapper drake had flights
[04:13] <peruano> anybody knows how to desintall the ubuntu O/S, but the problem is, i got 2 more windows O/S on my pc, and i just installed ubuntu, but when i restart the pc i got this message : grub loadind  ,   error 21, and ain't got nothing, so now i running ubuntu with the CD live
[04:13] <looktj> sivik: system -> adminstratation -> software properties
[04:13] <bruenig> as a drake is a bird
[04:13] <joshmoz> bruenig: ahh, thanks
[04:13] <krazykit> peruano: load up a windows CD, go to the recovery console, and do fixmbr
[04:13] <sklav> peruano, you need to install the windows boot loader again
[04:13] <Sivik> looktj, doesn't work if i don't have kde or gone installed there
[04:14] <krazykit> peruano: or maybe it's fixboot
[04:14] <nalioth> joshmoz: the release names are plurals of the animal release name.  "A knot of efts", "a flight of drakes", etc
[04:14] <sklav> which version of windows?
[04:14] <minerale> I'm about to install ubuntu on a windows pc, will I be able to resize the windows partition?
[04:14] <Sivik> what is mdadm
[04:14] <krazykit> peruano: something like that
[04:14] <Sivik> minerale, no
[04:14] <looktj> oh
[04:14] <bon> does anyone know how to setup up freeview with tv card
[04:14] <krazykit> minerale: yes
[04:14] <Sivik> looktj, command line
[04:14] <bon> i just got a freeview box and i can only get 5 chanels i have a winfast pvr using cox cable to connect them - and kdetv tryed tvtime as well
[04:14] <rshadarack> hey guys, is there someone in here that could help me get my wireless working with ubuntu?  I'm a new user and it's not detecting the network
[04:14] <peruano> thanks, i gonna try it now
[04:14] <krazykit> Sivik: it resizes ntfs partitions just fine, really
[04:14] <bruenig> minerale, yes, defragment first makes it a bit more reliable
[04:14] <mkquist> kitche - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24306 - dont suppose u could have a looksee?
[04:14] <Sivik> krazykit, i have never had any luck with it
[04:14] <spuddogg> Anyone here know about packet injection?
[04:15] <krazykit> minerale: make sure to back up anything important, too.
[04:15] <Sivik> i'm tired of everything not working tonight
[04:15] <sklav> spuddogg, whne i eat to many packs of gum?
[04:15] <Sivik> all i was trying to do is upgrade some packages and now there are all kinds of errors
[04:15] <lastnode> bruenig, er, knot is the collective noun for newts (a knot of newts), and an eft is a young newet.
[04:15] <spuddogg> sklav, exactly what i meant (extreme sarcasm)
[04:15] <lastnode> *newt even
[04:15] <sklav> spuddogg, hehe
[04:15] <spuddogg> lol
[04:15] <rawrness> anyone know any good p2ps?
[04:15] <bruenig> lastnode, I was just repeating what I read, as is why I said apparently. I have no idea
[04:16] <kitche> mkquist: hmm don't see any major errors
[04:16] <sklav> packet injection sounds familiar care to explain?
[04:16] <Sivik> why is there an error with mdadm?
[04:16] <myatthu> rawrness, i am using azureus
[04:16] <kitche> mkquist: might be a pam issue though
[04:16] <lastnode> bruenig, cool, it was just fyi
[04:16] <minerale> whoa, all the mirrors I keep trying to download from are so slow
[04:16] <Sivik> i'm having all kinds of issues with dpkg
[04:16] <rawrness> azureus thats torrents right?
[04:16] <myatthu> yup
[04:16] <spuddogg> sklav, well, its more or less for active attacks in an attempt to hack a 802.11 network
[04:16] <mkquist> pam?
[04:17] <sklav> i see
[04:17] <mkquist> kitche - pam?
[04:17] <sklav> i wish i knew more
[04:17] <Sivik> can someone help me get around some erros with dpkg and mdadm
[04:17] <sklav> free internet would be sweet
[04:17] <rshadarack> can anyone help a me with activating my wireless card?  it doesn't seem to be finding the network I have properly
[04:17] <Sivik> rshadarack, what brand card?
[04:17] <rshadarack> BCM4306, Broadcom
[04:17] <Sivik> try #bcm-users
[04:17] <Sivik> rshadarack, what is it doing?
[04:17] <bruenig> If a knot is a group of efts, then shouldn't dapper's been called flocks
[04:17] <rshadarack> Thanks
[04:18] <spuddogg> sklav, it is REALLY quite interesting and fun.  If you have a laptop and about $70 to burn on an Atheros card, do it man.  Just don't get malicious :)
[04:18] <kitche> mkquist: it's a different type of encryption when loging in and such
[04:18] <konfuzed> hey there, i just started havin some really strange behaviour with this 6.06 system. it was installed about the same week that 6.06 came out but lightly used.
[04:18] <sklav> spuddogg, im interested more for security reasons
[04:18] <lostboyz> hi how do i edit the fstab to mount my old home folder on different partition to new home folder?
[04:18] <Sivik> konfuzed, i'm having all kinds of issues with dpkg and mdadm tonight
[04:18] <sklav> i like security
[04:18] <sklav> and like to know ways people might crack me or a company and try to prevent it
[04:19] <Sivik> sklav: have you had any problems installing or upgrading stuff today?
[04:19] <bruenig> lostboyz, you have two home folders one on a different partition?
[04:19] <sklav> Sivik, none at all
[04:19] <spuddogg> sklav, thats another thing...i have learned soooo much in my ventures of late.  i am starting to get a little paranoid though.  for example, i swore to myself i would never log into my bank again while on a wireless network
[04:19] <Sivik> sklav: lucky
[04:19] <bruenig> each on a different partition*
[04:19] <sklav> i upgraded just before i came on irc
[04:19] <Sivik> i wish i could figure out what was going on
[04:19] <sklav> spuddogg, i could have mentionned that
[04:19] <konfuzed> I was playin a new DVD for my daughter and it would not play the disc, then I got it to play the disc with VLC but about halfd way through the seond episode on the disc, the video stops, vlc starts playing the radio and then the cd becomes umounted
[04:19] <sklav> its broadcasting
[04:19] <dren> Hello. I just installed Ubuntu (6.06) and I created the user and pass of "root" and "root" (both the same) and now I can't log into ubuntu when it starts up. What do I do?
[04:19] <lostboyz> bruenig
[04:20] <lostboyz> yes
[04:20] <lostboyz> i do
[04:20] <konfuzed> so I lieft it for like  2 hours to put my daughter to bed.
[04:20] <lostboyz> one from my old suse
[04:20] <sklav> dren, what was the user name you created??
[04:20] <dren> "root" (no quotes)
[04:20] <sklav> root cannot log in from the graphic login screen
[04:20] <lostboyz> box and new one is from new xubuntu
[04:20] <kitche> dren: well that's why ubuntu uses sudo so you sorta broke your system
[04:20] <lostboyz> install
[04:20] <bruenig> lostboyz, ok, does the suse folder have your the same username folder as that might pose a problem
[04:20] <Sivik> sklav: when i run a apt-get upgrade i get a bunch of dependance errors and then when i run apt-get -f install it screws up with some dpkg and mdadm
[04:20] <sklav> dreen root is created automatically
[04:20] <dren> lmfao, serious?
[04:20] <myatthu> dren, root account is disabled by default on ubuntu ... and for the record pls pls pls never create an account called root on any linux distros when you are installing
[04:20] <dren> See I didn't know this :] 
[04:20] <konfuzed> now the following message just keep scrolling up the page; busy inodes on changed media
[04:20] <lostboyz> no
[04:20] <dren> so.
[04:21] <Flannel> dren: besides, there's already a root user
[04:21] <lostboyz> should i add the user name
[04:21] <dren> Reinstall? :P
[04:21] <konfuzed> how do I stop busy inodes on changed media ??
[04:21] <pink1> Is there a way to add a shortcut to right clicking?  Like holding down Ctrl and left-clicking will be interpreted by Ubuntu as a right-click?
[04:21] <sklav> Sivik, did you try flushing your cache?
[04:21] <kitche> dren: your best bet would be a reinstall
[04:21] <lostboyz> bruenig should i still be old user?
[04:21] <dren> k, thanks :)
[04:21] <dren> [/idiot noob] 
[04:21] <cafemocha> hello, can anyone tell me the best reference to help me get my Linksys PCMCIA 54G card working with XUBUNTU 6.0.6?
[04:21] <sklav> konfuzed, you or some app is accessing a partition that is no longer mounted
[04:21] <lostboyz> bruenig should i add old user name? or keep new user name?
[04:21] <Sivik> sklav: how do i do that?
[04:21] <spuddogg> cafemocha, ndiswrapper
[04:21] <konfuzed> so I try ctrl-alt-F3 but the system does not change the tty
[04:21] <bruenig> lostboyz, I don't think it is a good idea to try to mount the other home folder instead. Why not copy over the stuff you want from the old home folder. There are bound to be some issues doing it the way you are trying
[04:21] <sklav> Sivik, 1 sec let me open a terminal
[04:21] <minerale> dren: first time for everything... we all were linux newbies at one point
[04:21] <lostboyz> oh ok
[04:22] <konfuzed> i suppose the VLC or something is still trying to access the cd-rom for some reason
[04:22] <lostboyz> but i don't have enough space
[04:22] <lostboyz> my new partition is only 10 gb
[04:22] <lostboyz> the other home partition is 220 gb
[04:22] <knixtech> alright guys, my webserv is up with a fresh install, but outside people cannot get to it
[04:22] <myatthu> lostboyz, my whole drive is 40 g
[04:22] <myatthu> lol
[04:22] <sklav> sudo apt-get clean all i think
[04:22] <konfuzed> sklav, ok so now how do I stop this message from repeating it sefl so that I can do something abot the problem ?
[04:22] <Flannel> lostboyz: you could always mount your other one inside this one, or ditch the small one and just use the big one
[04:22] <bruenig> lostboyz. Why not just mount the other partition but not as the home folder and then just use it for storage
[04:23] <myatthu> knixtech, first .. check ya firewall ... second does your ISPo block port 80 ? mine does
[04:23] <mkquist> anyone familiar w/reseting the xserver config?
[04:23] <lostboyz> Flannel how do i do that?
[04:23] <sklav> konfuzed, you have any terminal open?
[04:23] <lostboyz> bruenig i want to use old one for home
[04:23] <sklav> or file browser?
[04:23] <Sivik> still having a problem with the flashplugin-nonfree
[04:23] <knixtech> myatthu, neither of them
[04:23] <bruenig> the home folder has a bunch of hidden configuration files that seeing as you are coming from suse problem won
[04:23] <spuddogg> cafemocha:  install ndisgtk, ndiswrapper-source, ndiswrapper-utils.  Then just go System->Admin->Wireless Windows Drivers
[04:23] <sklav> Sivik, what the problem
[04:23] <Flannel> lostboyz: which one?
[04:23] <kitche> Sivik: what problem exactly
[04:23] <sklav> i have to install it also
[04:23] <myatthu> knixtech, neither of them ? can i have the web address pls ? :P
[04:23] <sklav> so i might be able to help
[04:23] <lostboyz> Flannel how do i ditch small one and use other one?
[04:23] <knixtech> knixtech.com
[04:23] <Sivik> kitch: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:23] <knixtech> ^_^
[04:24] <lostboyz> bruenig can i copy config files
[04:24] <knixtech> myatthu, its something on my ubuntu server
[04:24] <lostboyz> and change name of home to new user name and mount old as home?
[04:24] <kitche> knixtech: was kitchetech.com taken ::P
[04:24] <sklav> Sivik, are you using synaptic?
[04:24] <bruenig> lostboyz, yeah you could do it. I see now what you are trying.
[04:24] <Sivik> sklav: no, command line
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Sivik: http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/08/install-mozilla-flash-plugin-in-ubuntu.html  works to get flash working.
[04:24] <knixtech> kitche, lol
[04:24] <Sivik> sklav: i hate synaptic
[04:24] <lostboyz> bruenig do you know how to do that?
[04:24] <kitche> knixtech: yeah it doesn't even try to load
[04:24] <sklav> ok
[04:24] <konfuzed> sklav, I had a terminal open but the only display I can get on the screen now is the inodes busy message
[04:24] <knixtech> right
[04:24] <Sivik> Jack_Sparrow, it works, i'm just having issues trying to get past this
[04:24] <zylmak> hello i have a problem with app-get i receive an eror : dpkg: error processing flashplugin-nonfree (--configure):
[04:24] <knixtech> fresh install of apache and all
[04:24] <kitche> knixtech: wait it loaded
[04:25] <Flannel> lostboyz: change your fstab, to not mount the small one as home, and to mount the big one as home.
[04:25] <Sivik> zylmak, so am i, we're trying to figure out the issue
[04:25] <knixtech> kitche, to what?
[04:25] <myatthu> knixtech, i am not getting any response from the ping to your server
[04:25] <cod> ------------------------------->>>>>>>>>>>>quick easy question here
[04:25] <knixtech> myatthu, you wouldnt, my firewall blocks it
[04:25] <Sivik> knixtech, what is that ip or dns name
[04:25] <Sivik> cod: what?
[04:25] <kitche> knixtech: it says you deleted the data folder and such
[04:25] <[corn] > Hello
[04:25] <bruenig> ---------------------------------------_>>>>>>>ok
[04:25] <lostboyz> Flannel will there be system inconsistencies though? bruenig said there might be
[04:25] <[corn] > confidential
[04:25] <lostboyz> bruenig do you know how?
[04:25] <knixtech> Sivik, knixtech.com
[04:25] <Sivik> cod: what is the problem
[04:25] <cod> how do you add two commands to a desktop launcher?
[04:25] <Sivik> knixtech, nope, i can't ping it
[04:25] <cod> similar to the | in win?
[04:25] <Flannel> lostboyz: are you sharing this home between OSs? or switching entirely?
[04:25] <myatthu> lol
[04:26] <Sivik> cod: not sure
[04:26] <lostboyz> i need to switch
[04:26] <knixtech> Sivik, you want be able to ^_^
[04:26] <dooglus> cod: try a '&'
[04:26] <bruenig> lostboyz, I assume there will be system inconsistencies
[04:26] <kitche> hmm seems odd that I got to it but you can't ping it lol it takes a while to get though though
[04:26] <lostboyz> i am no longer a part of the suse universe
[04:26] <lostboyz> i am going only with xubuntu
[04:26] <Sivik> knixtech, i want to be able to ping that url, do you have it blocked on your end?
[04:26] <lostboyz> because i had too many problems
[04:26] <knixtech> lostboyz, me neither, cheers
[04:26] <Jack_Sparrow> paddy got was able to find info in the wiki to fix the borked update... and used that link for a good install.. sSorry I dont know what he did..
[04:26] <cod> tried &&, will try with just one
[04:26] <Sivik> knixtech, what is the ip address
[04:26] <knixtech> Sivik, of course
[04:26] <sklav> im installing command line also
[04:26] <kitche> knixtech: I got to it it took about a minute or so
[04:26] <lostboyz> xubuntu
[04:26] <Sivik> knixtech, why do you have it blocked?
[04:26] <lostboyz> is so much faster
[04:26] <dooglus> cod: && will wait for the 1st to finish
[04:26] <lostboyz> than the bloated kde that i was running before
[04:26] <knixtech> kitche, what loaded, as in gui?
[04:26] <cod> trying to get an xgl toggle going for wine installation of diablo
[04:27] <sklav> opk i got the error also
[04:27] <kitche> Sivik: you can get that from linux just do a host knixtech.com
[04:27] <Flannel> cod: and only perform the second if the first returns 0
[04:27] <RagePrblm> Can someone help me turn on direct rendering
[04:27] <kitche> knixtech: no a white page that says wordpress weblog even though it doesn't look like a wordpress for me
[04:27] <cod> so "killall compiz.real compiz & metacity"   ?
[04:27] <lostboyz> Flannel should i do a reinstall then and make the old partition the home folder? i mean what should i do?
[04:27] <Flannel> lostboyz: alright.  What you'llw ant to do is remove any config files you may have, or at the very least copy over your ubuntu ones (from your current home folder) to the new one, because the config syntaxes might be different between program versions
[04:27] <Sivik> kitche, yeah
[04:27] <Sivik> knixtech, why do you have the ping blocked?
[04:27] <Flannel> lostboyz: and then just switch the mount point, and you'll be fine
[04:27] <konfuzed>  any help on stopping the   busy inodes on changed media        message or how I can open a terminal while it is running that message
[04:28] <cTheManiaKY> Okay. I mount a folder to a samba connect. It mounts however if I do a ls or anything within the mounted folder I get permission denied! Even as root, and I know the login I'm using to connect to the share has permissions to access the folde.r
[04:28] <lostboyz> ok
[04:28] <myatthu>  am truly sorry to those that lost there data. Moron me did a "su rm -R /srv/www/htdocs . I did not mean to do this, I meant to do su rm -R
[04:28] <myatthu>    /srv/www/htdocs/another_folder . My finger slipped and hit the ENTER key and hosed it. I felt very shallow when this occurred because i knew there
[04:28] <myatthu>    was no way to get the data back.
[04:28] <lostboyz> where are the config files Flannel?
[04:28] <knixtech> Sivik, its the firewall by defauly
[04:28] <myatthu> is that yours knixtech  ?
[04:28] <Sivik> sklav: this is pissing me off
[04:28] <knixtech> myatthu, is what mine
[04:28] <cod> so "killall compiz.real compiz & metacity"   ?
[04:28] <Flannel> lostboyz: all inside ~
[04:28] <myatthu> that i pasted
[04:28] <Sivik> knixtech, then maybe you ned to turn that firewall off or open the port
[04:28] <knixtech> i didnt see it
[04:28] <sklav> Sivik, you try downloading from macromedia directly?
[04:28] <knixtech> Sivik, port is open silly
[04:28] <cod> should nix xgl, and start metacity in one click?
[04:28] <looktj> seiel for vbware
[04:28] <lostboyz> ~ ok Flannel i am sorry i do not know what that is i am not good at linux tinkering
[04:28] <cTheManiaKY> HELP Samba question : Okay. I mount a folder to a samba connect. It mounts however if I do a ls or anything within the mounted folder I get permission denied! Even as root, and I know the login I'm using to connect to the share has permissions to access the folde.r
[04:28] <looktj> please
[04:29] <looktj> serial
[04:29] <knixtech> myatthu, yes, thats mine
[04:29] <looktj> vmware*
[04:29] <knixtech> myatthu, did it come up?
[04:29] <myatthu> lol
[04:29] <myatthu> knixtech, i used lynx ... yah
[04:29] <Flannel> lostboyz: ~ is the path of your home directory, which can also be written as /home/username/
[04:29] <Sivik> sklav: no, i'm not having an issue with flash anymore, i'm just trying to get past this issue, i'm tired of it coming up ever bloody time i do a sudo apt-get install
[04:29] <myatthu> it did come up
[04:29] <knixtech> hmmmm
[04:29] <lostboyz> ok
[04:29] <knixtech> myatthu, im lost then
[04:29] <aanderse> hi does anyone know why ubuntu really wants a *-desktop meta package installed ... so much that the update manager doesn't work properly if one is not installed?
[04:29] <myatthu> not in ff though
[04:29] <looktj> serial for vmwareZ*
[04:29] <Sivik> sklav, thats not the current issue
[04:29] <lostboyz> so which do i need to copy and replace?
[04:29] <Sivik> sklav: i just want it to stop
[04:29] <Flannel> lostboyz: you'll want to copy your ubuntu stuff over, make sure you get the hidden stuff too (those are folders/files that start with a .)
[04:29] <lostboyz> do you know Flannel? thank you so much for your help by the way
[04:29] <cTheManiaKY> looktj what ver of vmware?
[04:29] <sklav> Sivik, uninstall the package?
[04:29] <kitche> knixtech: ping is blocked but I can get to it fine
[04:30] <knixtech> kitche, really, gui and all?
[04:30] <Sivik> sklav: thanks
[04:30] <sklav> hehe
[04:30] <Sivik> sklav: new issue
[04:30] <kitche> knixtech: well it shows a page where's teh gui part at though
[04:30] <sklav> im guessing that is not what you wanted
[04:30] <Flannel> lostboyz: what you could/probably should do, is delete all the config stuff from your old home, just keep your personal data stuff in there, and then copy everything over, then you won't have to worry about mitigating conflicts, etc
[04:30] <Sivik> the sudo apt-get upgrade is working now
[04:30] <knixtech> kitche, something is not right then
[04:30] <kitche> knixtech: umm it's pointing at a local ip
[04:31] <knixtech> it better
[04:31] <Sivik> after i did the apt-get clean
[04:31] <knixtech> kitche, how do you know this
[04:31] <Sivik> i need to remember that command
[04:31] <kitche> knixtech: http://192.168.3.195/?p=3 just so you know no one can access that page
[04:31] <dooglus> cod: just ";" will do if it's a quick command like killall first
[04:31] <kitche> knixtech: but you
[04:31] <knixtech> kitche, what do i need to edit then
[04:31] <sklav> so i actually fixed something today ;)
[04:31] <sklav> awesome
[04:32] <dooglus> cod: actually, you probably need to do:   bash -c "killall fluxbox; metacity"
[04:32] <Laptop765> does anybody know why ubuntu would seemingly stop accepting connections from my laptop but no other connections? (i.e. i can't connect to ventrilo from my laptop but 4 other people could)
[04:32] <kitche> knixtech: probably your config and your main page
[04:32] <knixtech> kitche, how did you get that/
[04:32] <Sivik> sklav, thanks for telling me the clean command
[04:32] <kitche> knixtech: it's right on the main page I looked at my status bar and it showed me the ip address
[04:32] <sklav> no prob
[04:32] <sklav> comes in handy
[04:32] <Sivik> sklav: now the mdadm thing is still a problem
[04:33] <knixtech> dammit
[04:33] <sklav> mdadm i have no experience with
[04:33] <sklav> but im sure someone here does
[04:33] <Sivik> well, i'm getting a 218: loop: parameter not set
[04:33] <Sivik> and i can't remove it either
[04:33] <cod> Hmm... ok...
[04:34] <cod> whats -c?
[04:34] <dooglus> cod: "command"
[04:34] <kitche> knixtech: all of your links show that IP address
[04:34] <dooglus> cod: otherwise bash takes it as a filename to open and run
[04:34] <knixtech> kitche, links?
[04:34] <Sivik> fluvvell, pm reply
[04:34] <cod> would that be ----    bash -c "killall compiz.real compiz; metacity"  ?
[04:35] <dooglus> yup
[04:35] <dooglus> but doesn't "killall compiz" kill both anyway?
[04:35] <kitche> knixtech: Truly Sorry Knixtech Uncategorized | No Comments  About September 2006 all of those plus more show an ip address
[04:35] <^Ocean^> how can i force install a .deb
[04:35] <knixtech> kitche, ok, ty
[04:35] <Laptop765> brb
[04:36] <dooglus> ^Ocean^: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[04:36] <lostboyz> so i should delete all the folders with /. paths? Flannel in my old home and then copy new /. over and change mount on fstab?
[04:36] <knixtech> kitche, let me read up
[04:36] <sklav> Sivik, flashplugin-nonfree even thought it complains actually installed and was working for me
[04:36] <^Ocean^> dooglus, but how do i force install it ?
[04:36] <Sivik> sklav: i got passed that issue
[04:36] <sklav> so did i
[04:36] <Flannel> lostboyz: remove all config files, usually they're .programname, either as a folder or a file.  then copy everything from your current ubuntu home, then fstab change, yep.
[04:36] <sklav> im just mentioning the error message is almost a false positive
[04:36] <dooglus> ^Ocean^: sudo dpkg --force-things all -i file.deb
[04:37] <cod> works perfectly.
[04:37] <cod> thank you
[04:37] <lostboyz> so how do i delete those? what would be the best way?
[04:37] <dooglus> cod: np
[04:37] <cod> 2nd related question
[04:37] <lostboyz> can i have a home folder that is different than my username flannel?
[04:37] <Code-E> Anybody here know how to install a game with cedega?
[04:38] <Flannel> lostboyz: sure, you'll need to tweak your user though
[04:38] <dooglus> lostboyz: yes.  edit /etc/passwd and you can change the home dir to anything you like
[04:38] <myatthu> Code-E, cedega is commercial isn't it ? why not call them up ?
[04:38] <bruenig> lostboyz get into the directory with all the .files, it would be your username folder and do rm -tf .*
[04:38] <cod> if I put this into a script while compiz is running, and it kills compiz, the script doesn't seem to want to continue until compiz is started up again
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> dooglus: How do you delete an incomplete package?
[04:38] <bruenig> rm -rf *.
[04:38] <bruenig> sorry not a t but a r
[04:38] <Flannel> lostboyz: you can also do it via GUI in the users menu thing
[04:38] <dooglus> bruenig: .* matches . and .. - be careful...
[04:38] <kitche> myatthu: they aren't really commercial really but you can call ubuntu commercial as well
[04:38] <fluvvell> lostboys: try System->Adminstration->Users and Groups
[04:38] <bruenig> dooglus, those damn . and ..
[04:39] <kitche> Code-E: cedega <path to install.exe or Setup.exe>
[04:39] <cod> is that normal? is there a way around?
[04:39] <dooglus> cod: stick a '&' after the metacity
[04:39] <Flannel> cod: #ubuntu-xgl
[04:39] <Code-E> ok
[04:39] <Code-E> thanks
[04:39] <^Ocean^> sklav, you still around ?
[04:39] <cod> ok, thanx
[04:39] <sklav> Yeah im here
[04:39] <cod> ok flannel, didn't realize there was a specif channel.
[04:40] <kitche> Code-E: you can use their gui to but I don't use it
[04:40] <lostboyz> bruenig how do i create a zip backup
[04:40] <lostboyz> if i need those /. files later
[04:40] <lavi> which commandre can be used to install new locale?
[04:40] <lostboyz> like backups of gaim chats and so forth
[04:40] <Code-E> kitche: Traceback (most recent call last):  File "/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega/Point2Play_gui.py", line 2979, in ?    gddb_file = detected[0] TypeError: unsubscriptable object
[04:40] <dooglus> lostboyz: do:  tar cfz backup.tgz ~/.??*
[04:40] <lupine_85> lostboyz: tar -cjf backup.tar.bz2 <files>
[04:40] <myatthu> lostboyz, tar -czvf filename.tar.gz file
[04:40] <lupine_85> j is better :)
[04:40] <sklav> ^Ocean^, anything i can help with?
[04:41] <lostboyz> oh wow ok 3 different answers
[04:41] <lostboyz> which one to choose/
[04:41] <^Ocean^> sklav, okay so i installed the package utold me too,  still getting the same error
[04:41] <lostboyz> they all work the same?
[04:41] <lupine_85> j and z options are two different compression formats
[04:41] <dooglus> lostboyz: mine will be quicker, theirs will make a smaller backup
[04:41] <myatthu> yup ... its like replying you zip and rar
[04:41] <kitche> Code-E: hmm not sure about that but it's a python error though probably has to do with how they scripted it but if it works fine then don't worry about it
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[04:41] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[04:41] <lostboyz> oh ok
[04:41] <myatthu> they do what you want to do
[04:41] <lostboyz> thanks
[04:41] <lupine_85> z is more widespread, less efficient space-wise, slower
[04:41] <lavi> locale -a > it does not contain the locale what I want, so I wanna add a new locale . how to ?
[04:41] <dooglus> lupine_85: slower?
[04:42] <lupine_85> much
[04:42] <lostboyz> what is difference between cjf tag and czvf tag dooglus
[04:42] <dooglus> lupine_85: I think you'll find bzip2 is slower
[04:42] <Code-E> kitche: no nothing came up when i typed in the command, im gonna try doing a local update
[04:42] <dooglus> lostboyz: the 'v' just prints a bunch of crap as it works
[04:42] <lupine_85> erm, yes you''re right
[04:42] <lostboyz> oh ok
[04:42] <lupine_85> that's what I meant to say :)
[04:42] <lupine_85> sleepy
[04:42] <lupine_85> bzip2 even does a pretty good job with binaries
[04:42] <dooglus> 'c' is 'create archive', the 'f' means you're specifying a filename to backup to
[04:42] <cycom> bzip is pretty good at compression
[04:42] <dooglus> 'z' is gzip and 'j' is bzip2
[04:43] <kitche> bzip also takes a long time to decompress
[04:43] <myatthu> wait ... why not just tell lostboyz to do man tar ?
[04:43] <dooglus> myatthu: 'cos the tar documentation isn't in the man page
[04:43] <kitche> myatthu: that's not the prefered way for ubuntu
[04:43] <dooglus> myatthu: and we'd have to explain how to install the documentation, and how to use info
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> the !backup link has good basic info on how to backup using tar...
[04:44] <myatthu> that will make him a knowledgable linux guy in future ? not that i am disagreeing your points there
[04:44] <uriel_> hi i am a linux noob, can somebody helo me?
[04:44] <Flannel> uriel_: just ask your question, someone will answer if they know it
[04:44] <bon> freeview box -uk is it possible to use with pvr card?
[04:44] <xplic1t> helo uriel
[04:45] <uriel_> hi guys
[04:45] <dooglus> hi
[04:45] <d3v1ant0n3> Can I just ask a quickie?
[04:45] <d3v1ant0n3> Hi, btw:D
[04:45] <dooglus> just ask
[04:45] <d3v1ant0n3> In my GRUB, there are 2 entries for Ubuntu. Why?
[04:45] <lostboyz> what is better gzip or bzip2
[04:45] <Flannel> myatthu: if they don't already know/quickly learn about man, it'll slowly get absorbed  with time.
[04:45] <uriel_> ill write down my question the best i ca, also keep inb mind that english its not my main language
[04:45] <d3v1ant0n3> It's the only distro I've seen like that
[04:45] <dooglus> lostboyz: gzip is faster, bzip2 is smaller
[04:45] <Flannel> d3v1ant0n3: one is normal mode, the other is a rescue console
[04:45] <ladydoor> lostboyz: they're both good
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> d3v1ant0n3: Updates keep the old kernel
[04:45] <lostboyz> oh thanks
[04:46] <d3v1ant0n3> No, there's duplicate entries for Ubuntu and Ubuntu failsafe
[04:46] <dooglus> lostboyz: not a huge amount in it.  if you empty your browser cache, you'll find there's not much to back up anyway
[04:46] <Flannel> d3v1ant0n3: different kernel versions, then
[04:46] <sklav> ^Ocean^, i forgot to mention you need to add the following
[04:46] <dooglus> d3v1ant0n3: different kernel versions
[04:46] <d3v1ant0n3> Odd...That's how It's appeared since install
[04:46] <dooglus> d3v1ant0n3: if an update somehow breaks the kernel, you'll want to be able to boot into the previous one to recover
[04:46] <THX-1138> Hi dooglus
[04:47] <dooglus> hi THX-1138
[04:47] <dooglus> long time no see
[04:47] <d3v1ant0n3> well thank you:D
[04:47] <lostboyz> thanks guys so much for the help
[04:47] <lostboyz> i really appreciate this
[04:47] <dooglus> lostboyz: did you run the tar?
[04:47] <THX-1138> It has been sometime. - just another contented Ubuntu user, no problems. Windows for games linux FOSS for everything else
[04:48] <dooglus> THX-1138: I've not been here for a month or two
[04:48] <uriel_> ok i need to change the permisions of a file, but it wont let me cause i am not root
[04:48] <uriel_> whatever the hell that is
[04:48] <Flannel> uriel_: which file?
[04:48] <lostboyz> dooglus yeah i ran the tar
[04:48] <d3v1ant0n3> I was so proud of the fact that I just plain dumped windows
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !sudo
[04:48] <dooglus> uriel_: put "sudo" in front of the command
[04:48] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:48] <josh_> anyone in here know what the filename is of the file that will allow a computer to ftp to itself?
[04:48] <lostboyz> but it is hanging because it is saving temp mldonkey files i don't need
[04:48] <d3v1ant0n3> And I'm slowly learning
[04:48] <uriel_> sources.list
[04:48] <uriel_> in /etc/apt
[04:48] <dooglus> lostboyz: if you run "tar tf backup.tgz" it'll show you what files are in it
[04:48] <THX-1138> I wanted to run a (every time ) command before opening nautilus
[04:48] <Flannel> uriel_: no, you don't want to change it's permissions, just edit it with sudo
[04:49] <dooglus> uriel_: you don' want to change the permissions
[04:49] <Flannel> uriel_: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list or sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:49] <sklav> ^Ocean^, i just sent you a private message with the steps needed
[04:49] <uriel_> ok ty ill try and get back to you
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> uriel_: Make a backup       sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/sources.list.backup
[04:49] <^Ocean^> sklav, i responded too ti too lol
[04:50] <sklav> i didnt see a response on my window
[04:50] <sklav> :(
[04:50] <josh_> anyone use proftpd?
[04:50] <Flannel> that's because ^Ocean^, you're not registered/identified (and thus, can't query)
[04:50] <THX-1138> Hi Flannel. - Have you seen "xdesktopwaves"? - water effect for the desktop.
[04:51] <Flannel> THX-1138: nope, I only use a CLI ;)
[04:51] <sklav> THX-1138, i have
[04:51] <sklav> its pretty fun
[04:51] <sklav> rain drops like
[04:51] <MikeHawk> Has anyone had problems upgrading to Dapper?
[04:51] <THX-1138> Flannel - I can never get Unreal Tournament to run acceptably that way. - you must actually be getting work done.
[04:52] <roostishaw> MikeHawk, like what sort of problems?
[04:52] <MikeHawk> I tried a
[04:52] <MikeHawk> >>sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:52] <MikeHawk> and got the message:
[04:52] <mabus> How can I make it so when I use elinks, it is in color, but other stuff is not broken? When I do TERM=xterm-256color && export $TERM it tells me that it is not valid. However, elinks works in color just fine. When I go to do anything else like... nano or whatever, I cannot because I don't have a valid term. Can anyone offer advice please?
[04:53] <dooglus> mabus: "export TERM", not "export $TERM"
[04:53] <THX-1138> sklav - It is great fun! :)
[04:53] <Flannel> MikeHawk: you'll want to be up to date first, norml sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:53] <sklav> i agree and the wobble effect is cool
[04:53] <dooglus> mabus: put a line in ~/.bashrc saying    alias elinks='TERM=xterm-256color /usr/bin/elinks'
[04:54] <mabus> mabus@mabox:~/doc$ export TERM
[04:54] <mabus> mabus@mabox:~/doc$ nano test
[04:54] <mabus> Error opening terminal: xterm-256color.
[04:54] <supermiguel> does any one know how an i write to my nfts partition i monted it on media/windows i can read it but can't write on it
[04:54] <Jack_Sparrow> How hard is it to install the xdesktopwaves.. my wife would love it on her box
[04:54] <AbortD> THX-1138, how do you start it after you download it?
[04:54] <Flannel> supermiguel: you can't do it safely.
[04:54] <mabus> dooglus: I don't have any .bashrc file yet, do I need to put like a shebang line or anything at the beginning?
[04:54] <Flannel> !tell supermiguel about ntfs
[04:54] <Flannel> supermiguel: you can see !fuse if you REALLY want to do it though
[04:54] <THX-1138> How does nautilus get it's start command? Can i add a command to run each time before it starts? (pored over gconf-editor for nrly an hour and can't make sense of it.)
[04:54] <DigitalNinja> What's a good music player?
[04:54] <dooglus> mabus: you should have one - it's automatically created
[04:54] <supermiguel> is not saifty?
[04:54] <dooglus> mabus: no shebang needed
[04:55] <AbortD> THX-1138, how do you start it after you download it?
[04:55] <Kyral> DigitalNinja: Beep Media Player, AmaroK, XMMS, mpg321....
[04:55] <Jack_Sparrow> supermiguel: You have asked that before... Still not advised but feel free to beta test it for the rest of us..
[04:55] <mabus> dooglus: well it's empty, in any case... so just type that and go, great.
[04:55] <Flannel> supermiguel: no, there's a risk of data corruption, because NTFS isn't an open standard
[04:55] <Crescendo_> Is there anything that I can do to allow multiple things to play sound at once?
[04:55] <sklav> THX-1138, yes you can
[04:55] <DigitalNinja> Kyral, Thanks! I was thinking of AmaroK.
[04:55] <sklav> go to system -> preference-sessions
[04:55] <THX-1138> AbortD - just the app name - there are some options listed --help.  quitye a few options.
[04:55] <dooglus> supermiguel: ntfs-3g is pretty good I hear
[04:55] <DigitalNinja> Kyral: Does that rip CD's?
[04:56] <Kyral> DigitalNinja: Nope, but another KDE app does...
[04:56] <sklav> click on startup tab and add program there
[04:56] <Kyral> forgot what lol
[04:56] <DigitalNinja> oh :(
[04:56] <Kyral> Actually I think its built into KDE...
[04:56] <dooglus> supermiguel: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=15196
[04:57] <mabus> dooglus: No color in elinks, c/ping your line. Tried logging out and logging in, in case .bashrc was only loaded when you login or whatever, but to no avail.
[04:57] <THX-1138> sklav - hm - i must be doing something wrong. tried that but it only helps on boot up. was hoping that "transset <options> could be run before starting nautilus.)
[04:57] <MikeHawk> hey sorry. I was in the middle of typing my error message and gaim crashed.
[04:57] <Flannel> MikeHawk: you'll want to be up to date first, norml sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:57] <sklav> THX-1138, are you using xgl?
[04:58] <MikeHawk> I was attempting to upgrade and got the message ->
[04:58] <MikeHawk> me@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:58] <MikeHawk> Reading package lists... Done
[04:58] <MikeHawk> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:58] <MikeHawk> Calculating upgrade... Done
[04:58] <MikeHawk> The following packages have been kept back:
[04:58] <MikeHawk>   hal hal-device-manager libhal-storage1 libhal1 pmount
[04:58] <THX-1138> sklav - xcompmgr - XGL didn't work well enough yet. (still bleeding edge i would guess.)
[04:58] <MikeHawk> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
[04:59] <mabus> MikeHawk: If it's more than 3 lines, use a pastebin.
[04:59] <man> gd
[04:59] <man> lgglk] 
[04:59] <dooglus> mabus: type "type elinks" - what do you see?
[04:59] <lostboyz> so to copy config files now to old home file i would do what sudo cp /home/~/.* /oldhome/
[04:59] <lostboyz> dooglus
[04:59] <mabus> dooglus: A black and white elinks client.
[04:59] <MikeHawk> sorry, what is a pastebin?   I don't see an option on this interface for that
[04:59] <mabus> !paste
[04:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:00] <dooglus> lostboyz: best to use 'tar' to do the copy really
[05:00] <AbortD> THX-1138, have  you ever tried to get 3ddesk to work?
[05:00] <dooglus> lostboyz: that way you keep the permissions, and symlinks, etc
[05:00] <THX-1138> Flannel - Where does nautilus find the commands it needs to run when you use it?
[05:00] <bon> how do i start a process if i have the process number
[05:00] <Flannel> THX-1138: er, I don't use nautilus, sorry.
[05:00] <THX-1138> AbortD - No, not yet. just saw something about it tonight.
[05:00] <dooglus> bon: kill -START <process id>
[05:00] <AbortD> THX-1138, i cant get it working :/
[05:00] <lostboyz> home folder *
[05:00] <lostboyz> ok how would i do that?
[05:00] <bon> thanks
[05:00] <man> hai all
[05:01] <man> boleh join di sini gak??
[05:01] <lostboyz> sudo tar -cjf /home/~/.* then what
[05:01] <dooglus> lostboyz: cd /home/oldhome; tar cf - .??* | (cd /home/newhome; tar xf -)
[05:01] <lostboyz> all in one command?
[05:01] <dooglus> yes
[05:02] <lostboyz> ok thanks!
[05:02] <nanotube> hello, I got list of packages installed on one PC using "dpkg --get-selections" how can I synchronize this list with other ubuntu pc?
[05:02] <dooglus> the .??* will match any file beginning with a dot, if the name is 3 or more characters long
[05:02] <lostboyz> does my old home have to have the same name as my user id?
[05:02] <lostboyz> would that be good to change that way?
[05:02] <lostboyz> dooglus
[05:02] <lostboyz> bruenig
[05:02] <dooglus> it doesn't matter what your home directory is called
[05:02] <lostboyz> oh ok
[05:02] <lostboyz> but i can rename it later right?
[05:02] <MikeHawk> so I keep getting this "The following packages have been kept back: hal hal-device-manager....." message when attempting to upgrade.  does anyone have any idea what it could be?
[05:03] <dooglus> incidentally, you keep saying /home/~ , but that doesn't mean anything
[05:03] <dooglus> ~ is only special at the start of a word
[05:03] <dooglus> ~dooglus means dooglus' home
[05:03] <dooglus> ~ means 'my home'
[05:03] <man> wooiii disini ada orang indonesia gak?????????????
[05:03] <lostboyz> dooglus
[05:03] <dooglus> !ubuntu-monkeytalk
[05:03] <Jack_Sparrow> man: Swedish  Polish ?
[05:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-monkeytalk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:03] <lostboyz> wouldn't it be ./.??*
[05:04] <bon>  dooglus: i tryed -start 9994
[05:04] <Flannel> !id
[05:04] <ubotu> join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[05:04] <THX-1138> MikeHawk - you migh try the apt -f "force" option with another type of package but the hal daemon is very scary.
[05:04] <lostboyz> instead of .??*
[05:04] <MikeHawk> crap
[05:04] <cTheManiaKY> HELP is there a command I can type that deletes the first line in a test file and leaves the rest intact
[05:04] <dooglus> lostboyz: ./ is implicit.  bash will look in the current directory if you don't tell it otherwise
[05:04] <cTheManiaKY> test=text file
[05:04] <lostboyz> oh ok
[05:04] <lostboyz> thank you
[05:04] <THX-1138> "Hardware Access Layer"
[05:05] <chaos> is there an option I can enable in xorg.conf to completely disable mouse acceleration?
[05:05] <dooglus> cTheManiaKY: sed -i 1d file
[05:05] <ladydoor> cTheManiaKY: you could use a text editor like gedit or nano. actually, use dooglus's suggestion
[05:05] <THX-1138> MikeHawk - Is there a verbose or very verbose option for apt?
[05:05] <man> how are you all\\????????
[05:05] <lostboyz> dooglus do i have to use sudo?
[05:05] <cTheManiaKY> dooglus I'll try that thanks!
[05:05] <lostboyz> because i think old home is still write protected
[05:06] <dooglus> lostboyz: no, I'd suggest you don't - or the files will be owned by the old user, not your current user
[05:06] <mabus> lostboyz: chmod it
[05:06] <dooglus> cTheManiaKY: "sed -i 1d *" to do it to all the files in the current directory
[05:06] <lostboyz> how do i do that mabus
[05:06] <MikeHawk> THX-- I don't know.  how would I find out if there is an option
[05:06] <Flannel> lostboyz: change the umask in your fstab
[05:06] <dooglus> lostboyz: log in as the user you're copying to.  I assumed you were copying from old to new
[05:06] <mabus> sudo chmod 666 /oldhome
[05:06] <Flannel> mabus: no.
[05:06] <dooglus> if not, switch the paths around
[05:06] <lostboyz> yes
[05:07] <uriel_> flannel
[05:07] <dooglus> the "tar cf" is reading, and "tar xf" is writing
[05:07] <uriel_> i did what you told me
[05:07] <lostboyz> i am already there logged in as new user but i don't know if i have write permissions for oldhome
[05:07] <lostboyz> how do i change that?
[05:07] <Flannel> uriel_: and?
[05:07] <dooglus> log is as the user you're wanting to copy the files *to*
[05:07] <uriel_> it didnt modify the file when i saved
[05:07] <lostboyz> oh ok
[05:07] <Flannel> lostboyz: or, use sudo to make yourself that user (sudo -u name)
[05:07] <uriel_> it just created a modified backup of it
[05:07] <lostboyz> yes i am the new user
[05:08] <Flannel> uriel_: er, which command did you use?
[05:08] <lostboyz> oh but the old user is no longer in the system
[05:08] <lostboyz> i only have one user
[05:08] <masingerz> hello
[05:08] <mabus> dooglus: So any idea why that alias still brings elinks up in black and white?
[05:08] <lostboyz> on the xubuntu but not all files are writeable
[05:08] <uriel_> sudo nano
[05:08] <lostboyz> in old
[05:08] <Flannel> lostboyz: you'll want to chown the whole thing then, probably
[05:08] <Flannel> uriel_: the whole line
[05:08] <dooglus> mabus: sorry, I missed your reply.  what does "type elinks" show?
[05:08] <lostboyz> Flannel how do i do that
[05:08] <ludedeeds> anyone else use cedega on ubuntu with an ATI radeon card? if so.. how do you fix the OpenGL failure?
[05:08] <uriel_> have patience with me i have barely using linux for like 2 hours
[05:08] <mabus> dooglus: elinks is hashed (/usr/bin/elinks)
[05:08] <Flannel> uriel_: no problem, but I'll need the entire command, copy/pasted ;)
[05:09] <masingerz> i had some old ubuntu installs here and now i want to do a dapper install but keep the old ubuntus, i have a dapper cd here
[05:09] <uriel_> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:09] <dooglus> lostboyz: if you're copying from old to new, why do you care whether you can write to old?
[05:09] <masingerz> the old ubuntus are broken
[05:09] <dooglus> mabus: show me the link in your .bashrc
[05:09] <Flannel> uriel_: and, then when you saved, where did it save it?
[05:09] <masingerz> im on th elive cd right now
[05:09] <lostboyz> so i am sure that all the config files can write successful
[05:09] <uriel_> i saved with alt o
[05:09] <uriel_> it did but then i checked the file and it was the same
[05:09] <dooglus> mabus: and make sure it's a new terminal - bash only reads .bashrc when it starts
[05:09] <uriel_> but there was a new one
[05:10] <uriel_> named sources.list.save
[05:10] <dooglus> lostboyz: you're writing to the new user's directory?
[05:10] <lostboyz> no
[05:10] <uriel_> in the same directory
[05:10] <lostboyz> i only have eagle user
[05:10] <Flannel> uriel_: ah, when you did ^O, did you type a different name?
[05:10] <lostboyz> ahren is old user
[05:10] <lostboyz> i want to use old ahren from suse as my home
[05:10] <lostboyz> so i can save easy and has larger space
[05:10] <uriel_> i just did ^o
[05:10] <lostboyz> 220 gb
[05:10] <lostboyz> this partition is seperate
[05:10] <lostboyz> has only 10 gb
[05:10] <myatthu> uriel_, did you do alt-o or ctrl-o ?
[05:11] <dooglus> lostboyz: I would suggest using the same userid in both suse and ubuntu
[05:11] <uriel_> alt o
[05:11] <lostboyz> and ubuntu auto.. installs like only on /
[05:11] <lostboyz> ok
[05:11] <myatthu> uriel_, can you do ctrl-o ?
[05:11] <lostboyz> so i can change the name then of the folder
[05:11] <lostboyz> from ahren to eagle write?
[05:11] <uriel_> lemme check
[05:11] <lostboyz> then copy the config files
[05:11] <Woong> testing..........
[05:11] <lostboyz> then change mount in fstab right dooglus?
[05:12] <MikeHawk> okay, I think I might have "solved" my problem with the whole "packages have been kept back" "hal hal-..."  can anyone help me to analyze why what I did worked?
[05:12] <syllogism> does the ubuntu install cd allow you to eject the CD and insert different media after it's loaded into memory?
[05:12] <mabus> dooglus: uh, stupid problem on my part. Thanks for the help, works great.
[05:12] <unikon> has anyone ever come across the problem of not being able to pull up the applications menu whatsoever?
[05:12] <dooglus> lostboyz: leave the mounts alone, they're fine I expect
[05:12] <dooglus> unikon: yes, a long time ago
[05:12] <Woong> Hey, has anyone found the failure rate of the DVD release is somewhat of a problem?
[05:12] <Flannel> syllogism: which CD? Desktop or Alternate? (definately not on the latter, most likely not on the former)
[05:13] <uriel_> ok it worked now, ty dude
[05:13] <uriel_> i feel so stupid
[05:13] <syllogism> Desktop
[05:13] <myatthu> uriel_, ^ usually means ctrl :P
[05:13] <lostboyz> no but i have to change the mount points for old home because it is in seperate partition
[05:13] <uriel_> windows made me stupid
[05:13] <myatthu> lol
[05:13] <jadyzob> does anyone know how to work with iptables????
[05:13] <dooglus> lostboyz: the other partition is mounted somewhere though, right?
[05:13] <lostboyz> yes
[05:13] <MikeHawk> So I went to Software Preferences in Synaptic and disabled two sources, both were related to the ntfs-3g ...  does anyone know why this was important to solving my package problem?
[05:14] <Flannel> jadyzob: most people do it via firestarter
[05:14] <dooglus> lostboyz: so you can change your home directory to be on that partition
[05:14] <lostboyz> but not automatically mounted as home i don't thin
[05:14] <lostboyz> yes exactly
[05:14] <dooglus> lostboyz: "mounted as home"?
[05:14] <lostboyz> oh
[05:14] <lostboyz> the oldhome is not mounted as home
[05:14] <lostboyz> the old home is here
[05:15] <lostboyz> /dev/sda2/home/eagle
[05:15] <lostboyz> the new xubuntu home is here /dev/sda3/home/eagle
[05:15] <lostboyz> respectfully
[05:16] <dooglus> do you want to have /home be the same in both os'es?
[05:16] <lostboyz> so now i just have to copy the new config files
[05:16] <lostboyz> and update fstab right dooglus? Flannel?
[05:16] <dooglus> first, do you even still want to use suse?
[05:16] <Flannel> dooglus: he's ditching suse, just migrating his big partition over
[05:16] <lostboyz> no never
[05:16] <lostboyz> i don't have it
[05:16] <lostboyz> don't want it
[05:16] <dooglus> ok
[05:16] <lostboyz> i am convert
[05:16] <lostboyz> to xubuntu
[05:16] <lostboyz> i have seen the signs
[05:17] <lostboyz> poor system performance crashing in kde end of the world was near
[05:17] <kitche> lostboyz: well the hidden folders should not be a problem really it's the other configs that you have to really worry about
[05:17] <dooglus> what I would then is have the old suse partition mounted onto /home
[05:17] <lostboyz> ok
[05:17] <dooglus> is it mounted at the moment?
[05:17] <lostboyz> but i still have to copy new config files there right?
[05:18] <lostboyz> or do i do something else?
[05:18] <dooglus> how long have you been using ubuntu?
[05:18] <torpedo|dog> netsplit!
[05:18] <lostboyz> i used debian as main system
[05:18] <lostboyz> but i couldn't get it to install with amd64 processer
[05:18] <lostboyz> so i gave up and went to suse
[05:18] <lostboyz> i have used linux now for 3 years
[05:18] <lostboyz> but i don't tinker with stuff
[05:19] <lostboyz> only use it for internet surfing
[05:19] <lostboyz> and tinker when i have to
[05:19] <dooglus> I'm wondering what these config files are you're talking about
[05:19] <lostboyz> the /. files
[05:19] <lostboyz> that i was told to erase
[05:19] <dooglus> the ones you used in suse?
[05:19] <lostboyz> and then copy over from old one
[05:19] <lostboyz> yes
[05:19] <lostboyz> they told me to erase them
[05:19] <lostboyz> and copy new ones over
[05:20] <lostboyz> so that there would be no system inconsistencies
[05:20] <dooglus> instead of doing that, I would suggest you continue using your old home, but get it mounted in the right place
[05:20] <lostboyz> because xubuntu installed only on /dev/sda3
[05:20] <lostboyz> and could not make /dev/sda2 my home during install
[05:20] <lostboyz> because the resolutioun was not right
[05:20] <kitche> lostboyz: just so you knwo ~/. configs won't destroy your system like the other config files
[05:20] <lostboyz> oh ok
[05:21] <lostboyz> well dooglus i am going to copy the new to old then
[05:21] <lostboyz> and mount it in the right place is that cool?
[05:21] <peruano> it's me again
[05:21] <dooglus> yes
[05:21] <peruano> fixmbr worked!
[05:21] <dooglus> is the big disk currently mounted?
[05:22] <ingsoc> Hola amegos
[05:22] <myatthu> !sp
[05:22] <ubotu> sp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-46ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 169 kB, installed size 592 kB
[05:22] <lostboyz> yes
[05:22] <myatthu> oh
[05:22] <lostboyz> it is
[05:22] <myatthu> !es
[05:22] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:22] <myatthu> lol
[05:22] <AbortD> myatthu,  whats that do?
[05:22] <myatthu> whats what do ?
[05:22] <insub> Hello, how do i activate the C++ Compiler
[05:22] <AbortD> parsing tools
[05:22] <myatthu> insub, you mean install ?
[05:23] <AbortD> insub, you get build-essentials
[05:23] <kitche> !build
[05:23] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:23] <mkquist> anyone... why wouldnt firefox and konversation suddenly not wanna run?
[05:23] <myatthu> parsing tool ? oh i mean to say !spanish ... so i did !sp forgotting spanish is !es
[05:23] <kitche> mkquist: probably due to that they are segfaulting
[05:23] <clearzen> So I've been unable to download and install the new flash. In fact my updates have been broken since yesterday. But I can install programs and download other packages at a normal rate. Any idea what is wrong?
[05:24] <uriel_> the reason i was trying to edit "/etc/apt/sources.list" was to enable universal repo so i can get sysv-rc-conf, but the damn thing still tells me "No candidate version found for sysv-rc-conf"
[05:24] <uriel_> any ideas?
[05:24] <ladydoor> !language
[05:24] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:24] <lostboyz> dooglus how do i register?
[05:24] <myatthu> uriel_, i suppose you did sudo apt-get update ?
[05:24] <Slynderdale> Hmm, I don't have a backup hard drive, what is the next best option to backup a system?
[05:24] <ladydoor> uriel_: and did you do sudo apt-get update first
[05:24] <uriel_> yeah
[05:24] <myatthu> or refresh in synaptic ...
[05:24] <insub> please show me the link again
[05:25] <dooglus>  /msg nickserv register pa$$word
[05:25] <insub> Hello, how do i activate the C++ Compiler
[05:25] <uriel_> i did
[05:25] <myatthu> !build-essential
[05:25] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:25] <AbortD> insub, .... i told you build-essentials
[05:25] <mkquist> kitche - segfaulting?
[05:25] <insub> thanks
[05:25] <mkquist> kitche - again over my head there
[05:25] <rshadarack> does anyone know of a walkthrough showing me how to update the linux kernel?  I have extracted patch-2.6.18 but I'm not sure what to do from there
[05:25] <AbortD> insub, go into synaptic package manager and search for build essentials
[05:25] <kitche> mkquist: yeah it's when it trys to load in a memory that it can't
[05:26] <mkquist> kitche - im sure this affected things, took a drive out of one machine and put in another, no os on it but seems to have funked up both comps
[05:26] <mkquist> any thoughts?
[05:26] <theseek3r> hi, i've got this weird problem
[05:26] <peruano> anybody knows, i installed ubuntu on my pc, but i got 2 win O/S more, and when i restart i got this : grub loading   error 21
[05:26] <peruano> how can i fix that
[05:26] <minerale> I'm trying to backup my entire system into an external drive (FAT32, but tar -zxvf is giving me a "file too large" error, how can I split the archive ?
[05:26] <kitche> mkquist: yeah that might mess with the machines if both machines are different
[05:26] <theseek3r> i cannot change the default application for any file type
[05:26] <ingsoc> I know that one I think
[05:27] <theseek3r> the radio button at "open with" in the properties of the file
[05:27] <theseek3r> doesn't change
[05:27] <ingsoc> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:27] <kitche> minerale: tar up a few folders at a time then just make one tar with all the tars in it
[05:27] <clearzen> my updater has been broken since yesterday. But I can still install programs. I can't get the updates listed however. How can I fix this?
[05:28] <Dittohead> I'm getting python errors when doing an apt-get dist-upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10. Along these lines (if you need more I'll post elsewhere so I don't flood...just tell me where): 'File "/usr/bin/pycentral", line 1319, in main'
[05:28] <rshadarack> Anyone know of a walkthrough for updating the linux kernel?
[05:28] <sproingie> !pastebin
[05:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:28] <kitche> Dittohead: yeah pastebin it
[05:28] <Dittohead> Thanks...just a sec
[05:28] <kitche> sproingie: you just had to ask him to pastebin it lol
[05:28] <theseek3r> any guidelines?
[05:28] <minerale> kitche: I have certain dv files that are over 2gb, I can't really do that, is there any archive-er that will split files on it's own ?
[05:29] <kitche> minerale: umm well there is programs to do that
[05:29] <kitche> minerale: anyways fat32 can only have 4GB file size
[05:29] <clearzen> :minerale I think you can use dd or rsync and then use cat to put them back together
[05:29] <clearzen> I'm not sure of the command syntax though
[05:29] <webhed> I have a question regarding how to get mplayer to work as a plugin in Firefox. I want to be able to view media files that are embedded in some webpages in Firefox and I'm sure mplayer is the way to do it, just not sure how.
[05:30] <rshadarack> does anyone know of a walkthrough showing me how to update the linux kernel?
[05:30] <kitche> webhed: well there is many ways to do it really you could use totem-plugin for firefox but if you want mplayer you probably have to install mplayer's firefox plugin
[05:30] <Dittohead> Python errors on dist-upgrade to 6.10 from 6.06: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24325
[05:31] <delaney> Anyone here happen to know   a/ how to get last.fm support in audacious   or  b/ where the default plugin folder for audacious is?
[05:31] <webhed> actually I really dont care whether its mplayer or totem
[05:31] <webhed> how can I get totem to work?
[05:31] <theseek3r> maybe someone could post a help post here--> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=262487
[05:31] <kitche> Dittohead: it seems to have to deal with python2.4-minimal
[05:32] <peruano> anybody knows the spanish ubuntu chat link
[05:32] <webhed> I already did Automatix and EasyUbuntu but for some reason some media files still show up as a "plug-in needed" icon in FF instead of just playing
[05:32] <kitche> webhed: try this mozilla-mplayer
[05:33] <Dittohead> kitche, any easy fix? Can I remove python2.4 and will dist-upgrade reinstall it? Or is that doomed to fail? I had errors with openoffice upgrading earlier but I managed to remove it and everything went fine until now.
[05:33] <webhed> "mozilla-mplayer is already the newest version."
[05:33] <shmulik> Hi, I have a folder with a bunch of subdirectories and files in it, and I want all the files with the extension ".m4p" moved out to another location.
[05:33] <webhed> I apparently already have it installed
[05:33] <kitche> Dittohead: you can try installing python
[05:34] <carpediem> webhed: do you know what type of media files?
[05:34] <kitche> webhed: do you liek gstreamer or xine?
[05:34] <kitche> webhed: sicne there is totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin and totem-xine-firefox-plugin
[05:34] <webhed> kitche: again, dont really care, whichever works
[05:34] <Dittohead> kitche, python: Depends: python-minimal (= 2.4.3-11ubuntu3) but 2.4.2-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
[05:34] <carpediem> use xine, gstreamer plays wmv like crap.
[05:35] <peruano> anybody knows ubuntu espanol link
[05:35] <kitche> webhed: those should work just pick one that you feel like using
[05:35] <theseek3r> shmulik: mv *.m4p /path_here/
[05:35] <webhed> ok so just apt-get install totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin ?
[05:35] <rshadarack> Can anyone help me in updating my linux kernel?
[05:35] <kitche> Dittohead: try upgrading python-minimal
[05:35] <webhed> and apt-get install totem-xine-firefox-plugin ?
[05:35] <kitche> webhed: yes
[05:36] <webhed> ok doing - thanks
[05:36] <carpediem> rshadarack: why, isn't apt doing it for you?
[05:36] <shmulik> theseek3r: The m4p files are within subdirectories though
[05:36] <rshadarack> car: I have no idea how to do it in the first place, I just installed ubuntu today and I was told to update the kernel to get my wireless card working
[05:36] <ubuntu> help
[05:36] <Dittohead> kitche, then I get those errors that I put in the paste-bin again.
[05:36] <carpediem> rshadarack: oh, what wireless card?
[05:37] <rshadarack> bcm
[05:37] <rshadarack> broadcom
[05:37] <carpediem> rshadarack: is it usb or pci?
[05:37] <ladydoor> shmulik: try this:  for dir in /full/path/to/their/base/dir/* ; do mv $dir/* /their/new/location
[05:37] <rshadarack> car: pci
[05:37] <ladydoor> shmulik: *add this:  ; done
[05:37] <ladydoor> shmulik: at the end of that line
[05:37] <spuddogg> Another problem today...I was online on my laptop running Ubuntu Dapper, and all was well.  I unplugged my PCMCIA network card to read the MAC on it, and now it will not work anymore.  I tried the card in another box, so I know it works fine.  Is there a way to reload or reinstall the driver it was using?
[05:38] <kitche> Dittohead: hmm could be the program itself
[05:38] <Dittohead> kitche, broken package perhaps?
[05:38] <shmulik> for dir in /full/path/to/their/base/dir/* ; do mv $dir/* /their/new/location; done
[05:38] <sudharsh> hi..video performance in dapper is pathetic for me..I am using a SiS 650 that was workin well in all the distros even breezy but not dapper..dma is on for all drives, i have an amd xp 2000+
[05:38] <shmulik> Like that?
[05:38] <spuddogg> Or is that not the problem at all?
[05:38] <daurn> hi all
[05:38] <kitche> spuddogg: if you did ifconfig it would have shown you the MAC as well
[05:38] <ladydoor> shmulik: yup
[05:38] <ladydoor> shmulik: that might work
[05:38] <carpediem> rshadarack: usually you need ndiswrapper, and the windows driver, for broadcom cards.
[05:38] <daurn> sound is coming out the wrong soundcard for *some* things for me
[05:38] <spuddogg> kitche, yes, i realized that after i did it
[05:39] <carpediem> rshadarack: as is described here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[05:39] <daurn> how can i get the sound output changed?
[05:39] <kitche> rshadarack: hmm it should work out of the box to get it working you might have ti activite it
[05:39] <theseek3r> maybe someone could post a help post here--> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=262487
[05:39] <spuddogg> Another problem today...I was online on my laptop running Ubuntu Dapper, and all was well.  I unplugged my PCMCIA network card to read the MAC on it, and now it will not work anymore.  I tried the card in another box, so I know it works fine.  Is there a way to reload or reinstall the driver it was using, or is that not the problem at all?
[05:39] <rshadarack> car/kitche: the weird thing is (or so I'm told) is that ubuntu recognizes my wireless card
[05:40] <shmulik> ladydoor: That won't move the .m4ps?
[05:40] <rshadarack> it's just not working
[05:40] <kitche> spuddogg: try to restart the pcmcia script
[05:40] <ladydoor> shmulik: it didn't? sorry
[05:40] <ladydoor> shmulik: then i don't know
[05:40] <kitche> rshadarack: try this system -> networking and tell me what's listed
[05:40] <spuddogg> kitche, how do i do that?  also i should tell you, i put another network card in this laptop (ndiswrapper) and it is working fine
[05:41] <rshadarack> kitche: Wireless connection on eth1, ethernet on eth0, and modem on ppp0
[05:41] <meheren> i have sorta a problem im trying to explain to my buds the difference between a hacker and a cracker.. but can't really seem to put the definitons into words I'm the kinda person who has ideas but can,t explain them... any help?
[05:41] <meheren> *can't
[05:41] <kitche> rshadarack: does eth1 say not active
[05:41] <webhed> I installed both and I still get the deal about missing a plugin on a page with an embedded wmv
[05:42] <rshadarack> yes
[05:42] <kitche> spuddogg: look in /etc/rc.d
[05:42] <theseek3r> ok i have to go to work now, I could use a little help here if you have any ideas: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=262487
[05:42] <sproingie> meheren: if you want maximally pith, say a hacker is like a locksmith and a cracker is a punk with a slim jim
[05:42] <kitche> spuddogg: for a script called pcmcia tell me if you find it
[05:42] <rshadarack> kitche: I tried to activate it, which seemed to work, but I closed out of the network settings, reopened it, and it's not active again
[05:42] <nonickname> what is device dm-0?
[05:43] <kitche> rshadarack: yeah I think that's a bug it does that to me but wireless still is on
[05:43] <meheren> sproingie,  great analogy thx :)
[05:43] <ladydoor> meheren: check this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_ethic
[05:43] <spuddogg> kitche: no such file or directory
[05:43] <rshadarack> kitche: Internet still won't work
[05:43] <nonickname> !dm
[05:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:43] <carpediem> theseek3r: I just posted a reply
[05:43] <nonickname> !dm0
[05:43] <TheH> Hi there, anyone can help me with a 6600gt component video issue?
[05:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dm0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:43] <carpediem> theseek3r: not sure if it is the answer though.
[05:43] <kitche> spuddogg: for what rc.d or pcmcia?
[05:43] <spuddogg> kitche rc.d
[05:43] <delaney> anyone able to get audioscrobbler/last.fm support with audacious + dapper
[05:43] <theseek3r> ok carpediem thanx
[05:43] <meheren> ladydoor, ok thx
[05:44] <rshadarack> kitche: also, my wireless network is not showing up when I go into properties and the dropdown menu of "Network name"
[05:44] <kitche> rshadarack: well did you set your settings up right?
[05:44] <delaney> when i ./configure the plugins for compile i get  "AudioScrobbler Client:                  no"
[05:44] <rshadarack> kitche: can't, because the list of networks to select from is blank
[05:44] <kitche> spuddogg: look for a init.d folder in /etc sorry I m not use to how ubuntu init scripts are
[05:44] <carpediem> rshadarack, kitche: broadcom chips don't work out of the box, you need ndiswrapper.
[05:45] <minerale> Ok, I just installed ubuntu on a notebook, but the resolution was wrong, so I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and now x won't even start anymore, are there any guides that help for this on the website ?
[05:45] <kitche> carpediem: they do work trust me it worked out of the box for me
[05:45] <carpediem> kitche: most do not, or there wouldn't be whole threads dedicated to this subject:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[05:46] <spuddogg> kitche, i got the file open now...what in particular am i looking for?
[05:46] <kitche> carpediem: or else it wouldn't show up in the Networking settings
[05:46] <TheH> I had a hard time with fedora and I finaly did not get the widescreen of my tv to open.. I want to know if there is a tutorial or something to fallow about getting my 6600gt to work with component video on mu hdtv?
[05:46] <kitche> spuddogg: a pcmcia script
[05:46] <ingsoc> Any one care to share some good theme sites?
[05:46] <ingsoc> WM or Gnome
[05:46] <ladydoor> carpediem: kitche: there's now the bcmwxx native driver
[05:46] <kitche> carpediem: I know the newer broadcoms don't work but the newer chips are hard to find
[05:47] <kitche> ladydoor: I know that there is a native driver that's what I use since ndiswrapper is a pain :)
[05:47] <ninjakttty> can anyone help me, I've got a problem where when I try and play videos it only displays half of the video I've got a example posted of what I mean http://www.ninjakitty.net/yuri/bitbucket/video.png
[05:47] <carpediem> kitche: I have a 4 year old broadcom pci card that requires ndiswrapper, I'm not sure why yours doesn't, but most do.
[05:47] <rshadarack> kitche, ladydoor: how do I get this driver?
[05:47] <ladydoor> kitche: yeah...haha, i actually had the opposite experience (the native driver giving me problems)
[05:48] <malice_> OK, I did something stupid so dont tell me I did But I went into Synaptic Package, settings then to repositories then install media then my mouse on my laptop was on delete and it deleted the first 3 on this menu, would anyone please tell me what the efirst 3 are ?
[05:48] <cew_cantq> hiiiiiiiiiiiii...............
[05:48] <kitche> carpediem: probably because the kernel module doesn't like your chipset
[05:48] <theseek3r> any other ideas???--> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=262487
[05:48] <kitche> rshadarack: you already have it
[05:49] <TheH>  I had a hard time with fedora and I finally did not get the widescreen of my tv to open.. I want to know if there is a tutorial or something to fallow about getting my 6600gt to work with component video on my hdtv pm ubuntu
[05:49] <Homer> how do I download the whole internet
[05:49] <jiSh_clone> i beat the internet
[05:49] <kitche> carpediem: the kernel module is very picky with how it acts sometimes
[05:49] <malice_> OK, I did something stupid so dont tell me I did But I went into Synaptic Package, settings then to repositories then install media then my mouse on my laptop was on delete and it deleted the first 3 on this menu, would anyone please tell me what the efirst 3 are ?
[05:49] <malice_> please help
[05:49] <ladydoor> Homer: wget http://*
[05:49] <rshadarack> kitche: then why do I have no wireless networks to select from in properties?
[05:49] <Homer> ladydoor: thanks
[05:49] <ladydoor> Homer: no problem
[05:49] <quintok> hi guys, I'm trying to set a mime-type icon and I (through apparent ignorance) had trouble finding any decent explinations on the subject, can someone point me in a better direction please
[05:49] <minerale> Ok, I just installed ubuntu on a notebook, but the resolution was wrong, so I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and now x won't even start anymore, are there any guides that help for this on the website ?
[05:50] <ladydoor> Homer: you might also be interested in this:  http://www.shibumi.org/eoti.htm
[05:50] <kitche> rshadarack: as I said you need to know the ESSID or install wifi-radar which will scan for wireless networks it won't auto pick up the networks
[05:50] <ladydoor> Homer: (it's the end of the internet)
[05:50] <TheH> anyone can point me where to go for a 6600gt component video HDTV setting?
[05:50] <yome> Hi.  I'd like to install Ubuntu on a laptop with no cd-rom.  What's my best option: do an install through the network, or can I boot using an usb key?
[05:51] <rshadarack> Is there a way I can easily find out the ESSID?
[05:51] <carpediem> rshadarack: you would see it if you are broadcasting it.
[05:51] <rshadarack> carpediem: not sure what you mean
[05:51] <kitche> rshadarack: use wifi-radar it's a good tool
[05:52] <dibblego> how do I find out from which locations a file is symlinked to?
[05:52] <carpediem> kitche: he should connect to an essid without wifi-radar.
[05:52] <TheMoebius> hey what is the best way to upgrade to edgy? this is just my testing box so I'm willng to do a complete fresh install but is there a livecd for edgy yet?
[05:52] <carpediem> kitche: the fact that he's not either means a) he's not broadcasting the essid or b) his driver isn't working.
[05:52] <kitche> carpediem: yes I know the reason his router might be set up to hide the ESSID like mine is set up
[05:53] <carpediem> rshadarack: try "sudo iwconfig essid any"
[05:53] <peija-kas> TheMoebius there is a prerelease Edgy cd already
[05:53] <carpediem> rshadarack: sorry scratch that
[05:53] <peija-kas> TheMoebius but theres still BREAKAGE :D
[05:53] <kitche> carpediem: first he has to activate the device
[05:53] <carpediem> rshadarack: "sudo iwconfig ath0 essid any" where ath0 is your wireless device.
[05:53] <peija-kas> im running Edgy in a virtual machine
[05:54] <ISOLATEDViRuS> if i run the RM command to remove files, are the files moved to the trash bin?
[05:54] <peija-kas> no
[05:54] <peija-kas> theyre deletd at once
[05:54] <link_36p>  I get an error from gdm saying my xgl xsession script deosnt exist, but this olny happens when trying to logon as additional users ive created besides the original account :(
[05:54] <ISOLATEDViRuS> jesus freaking christ.
[05:54] <ISOLATEDViRuS> is there a way to undo it?
[05:54] <rshadarack> car, I got no output from that command
[05:54] <theseek3r> aysiu<-- whoever this is on ubuntuforums, thank you very much for your help
[05:54] <peija-kas> so dont mess  up with rm, especially with sudo rm ;)
[05:54] <kitche> ISOLATEDViRuS: use a filemanager
[05:54] <peija-kas> ISOLATED - theres no way to undo, no easy way at least
[05:55] <minerale> I just installed ubuntu on my laptop and I'm having trouble setting up the x server, could someone help ... pleaseeee ?
[05:55] <kitche> ISOLATEDViRuS: at least then it should put them in the trash bin
[05:55] <Dittohead> ISOLATEDViRuS, 'man rm' is your friend
[05:55] <peija-kas> u may get something back from the disk with some recovery prg, dont know about em
[05:55] <ladydoor> ISOLATEDViRuS: no. that's why you use rm. if you want a trashcan, you can always use a graphical program like nautilus.
[05:55] <TheH> Anyone please to point me where to configure my 6600gt component video to work with my hdtv please
[05:55] <carpediem> theseek3r: well, the odd thing is that your files shouldn't become owned by someone else unless, unless you did something pretty funky.
[05:55] <TheH> anyone that has done this with video cards?
[05:56] <Dittohead> ISOLATEDViRuS, Always read a man page before running commands at the terminal. You can screw things up bad otherwise. I've done some bad rm's in my day if you makes feel any better :)
[05:56] <spuddogg_> kitche, i marked the madwifi package in synaptec for reinstallation, and now my card is working perfectly
[05:56] <bruenig> ISOLATEDViRuS, if you want to move something to the trash, you can just do mv file ~/.Trash
[05:56] <carpediem> theH: I have, but it took a ton of work to get the right modeline.
[05:56] <TheMoebius> peija-kas, where do I get the edgy prerelease cd - its not on the download pages
[05:56] <theseek3r> carpediem: i really haven't tried to give ownership to someone else, i don't know how to do it anyway
[05:57] <peija-kas> TheMoebius just a sec
[05:57] <bruenig> TheMoebius, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/knot-3/
[05:57] <kitche> spuddogg_: ah your using madwifi I never used it it's either native or ndiswrapper since native works for me
[05:57] <TheH> I don;t know where to start
[05:57] <peija-kas> damn bruenig was faster :)
[05:57] <theseek3r> carpediem: maybe some of the many tutorials to install stuff could have done this??
[05:57] <bruenig> google knot 3 download
[05:57] <peija-kas> TheMoebius..but dont use it for main OS :)
[05:57] <ISOLATEDViRuS> so there is no way to reverse this?
[05:57] <spuddogg_> kitche, madwifi is built into ubuntu nowadays.  people are replacing it because the driver built in does not support packet injecting
[05:57] <TheH> I did a lot on fedira all I could get was to make it look good in 720p but only in a 4:3 kinda screen
[05:57] <bruenig> ISOLATEDViRuS, no
[05:57] <peija-kas> ive seen some bugginess in testing with virtual machine
[05:58] <aSt3raL> whats the unofficial channel on this server?
[05:58] <carpediem> theseek3r: Something caused your .gconf files to be owned by someone else, which is out of the ordinary.
[05:58] <Dittohead> ISOLATEDViRuS, No. rm removes things. Permanently.
[05:58] <TheMoebius> peija-kas, thx. yeah, i know its just my extra testing box
[05:58] <peija-kas>  #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:58] <aSt3raL> where you can talk about off topic stuff?
[05:58] <bruenig> #ubuntu-offtopic maybe you are talking about
[05:58] <aSt3raL> thanks
[05:58] <kitche> spuddogg_: I used native but it works it seems for me but I m more of a power user you can say
[05:58] <spuddogg_> kitche, what do you mean by native?
[05:58] <rshadarack> to whoever was helping me, I got wifi radar and it recognized no networks
[05:58] <quintok> hi guys, I'm trying to set a mime-type icon and I (through apparent ignorance) had trouble finding any decent explinations on the subject, can someone point me in a better direction please
[05:59] <theseek3r> carpediem: i understand, but i cannot explain how this happened. i hope i haven't got any security problems, i am on dsl and dynamic ip...
[05:59] <ladydoor> ISOLATEDViRuS: if you want to temporarily remove things, you can always do mv filename .Trash
[05:59] <kitche> spuddogg_: don't have to use a wrapper to make my wireless to work
[05:59] <ladydoor> ISOLATEDViRuS: if you have a .Trash dir in your home dir
[05:59] <redblades> hi all, I just (as root) deleted some inportant info.
[05:59] <spuddogg_> kitche, ok, you're that good with c/c++ then?
[05:59] <redblades> Is there any way to retrieve it?
[05:59] <carpediem> TheH: naw....someone would've done far worse than that
[06:00] <carpediem> whoops
[06:00] <kitche> spuddogg_: I help work on another distro
[06:00] <aSt3raL> does ubuntu have a ppc kernel?
[06:00] <carpediem> theseek3r: : naw....someone would've done far worse than that
[06:00] <spuddogg_> kitche, well, to make it easy for me to understand, we'll just call you a nerd.  lol ;)
[06:00] <DarkMageZ> aSt3raL, there is a ppc version of ubuntu
[06:00] <bruenig> aSt3raL, yes
[06:00] <bruenig> or what DarkMageZ said
[06:00] <redblades> Is it possible to recover data from ext2 ?
[06:01] <spuddogg_> kitche, thanks for the help...i'm sure i'll bother you again in the near future.
[06:01] <aSt3raL> ok
[06:01] <theseek3r> carpediem: let's just hope so until i gather the knoledge to understand security issues in linux. Thank you and the other guy for your help!
[06:01] <ladydoor> redblades: what did you delete?
[06:01] <TheH> but you did get it to work right? you get full weidescrel 16:9 on your tv?
[06:02] <redblades> ladydoor a whole heap of emails
[06:02] <DarkMageZ> aSt3raL, see http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ :P
[06:02] <goldenmyst> How do I install epiphany extensions?
[06:02] <ladydoor> redblades: oh dear. yeah, sorry, i don't know
[06:02] <redblades> Gah
[06:02] <carpediem> theseek3r: I wouldn't worry much about security, as long as you run the updates when Ubuntu has them, you should be good.
[06:02] <aSt3raL> ok
[06:02] <aSt3raL> i dont need one yet
[06:02] <SillyZ> gevening
[06:02] <bruenig> goldenmyst, do extensions exist?
[06:02] <aSt3raL> i was wondering if itd run on this: http://www.kurobox.com/revolution/what.html
[06:02] <goldenmyst> bruenig: Yes, they do.
[06:03] <goldenmyst> I'm surprised I can't find them in Synaptic.
[06:03] <bruenig> there isn't some dialog like firefox accessible from the menus?
[06:03] <kitche> redblades: there is a way but it's easier to use a live cd to do it
[06:03] <RyuRhRt> help
[06:03] <carpediem> TheH: I have widescreen, 540p (which is the same fundamentally as 1080i).
[06:03] <ladydoor> goldenmyst: there's a package. search in synaptic for epiphany
[06:03] <RyuRhRt> how to stop x server after it start?
[06:03] <bruenig> send epiphany is basically firefox
[06:04] <carpediem> TheH: running from composite, mythtv with an HDTV tuner card.
[06:04] <bruenig> at least as far as rendering and a lot of the code base goes
[06:04] <kitche> RyuRhRt: stop gdm and shut down X
[06:04] <theseek3r> carpediem: ok! I do the updates all the time. It's just that it's a whole new world to me, linux that is..!
[06:04] <surface> RyuRhRt:  ps aux and pin point the x server and use kill -9 xserver uid
[06:04] <goldenmyst> ladydoor: It doesn't show up here.
[06:04] <carpediem> TheH: I had 1080i running for a while, but I switched back to 540p because it seems to take less cpu but is identical in quality.
[06:04] <TheH> nice, so where can I start to configure this?
[06:04] <redblades> kitche I have many Live CDs...
[06:04] <ladydoor> goldenmyst: actually, close synaptic and in a terminal do sudo apt-get install epiphany-extensions
[06:04] <kitche> surface: it will restart as long as gdm is set up to start automatically
[06:04] <DarkMageZ> aSt3raL, does that thing even have a cdrom drive?
[06:05] <ladydoor> !epiphany-extensions
[06:05] <TheH> oh cool
[06:05] <ubotu> epiphany-extensions: Extensions for Epiphany web browser. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.1.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 383 kB, installed size 1964 kB
[06:05] <kitche> redblades I know backtrack can do it
[06:05] <TheH> even better than 720p?
[06:05] <carpediem> theseek3r: was a new world for me 3 years ago.  You'll be an expert before you know it.
[06:05] <difeta> Does there exist a program that will help me push configuration changes to all the ubuntu desktops in my building?
[06:05] <redblades> kitche can you walk me through it?
[06:05] <aSt3raL> DarkMageZ:  no
[06:05] <surface> kitche:  then kill gdm as well
[06:05] <aSt3raL> whoa
[06:05] <kitche> redblades: think there is a readme about it on backtrack's webpage
[06:06] <redblades> uhhh... okay... link?
[06:06] <DarkMageZ> aSt3raL, you should beable to get ubuntu running on that thing, you'd probably have to do a network install or something
[06:06] <goldenmyst> ladydoor: That seems to work. Thanks
[06:06] <theseek3r> carpediem: anyways, nice talking to you, have a nice day! It's 7:06 am here in Greece. :)
[06:06] <ladydoor> goldenmyst: sweet
[06:07] <carpediem> theseek3r: nice talking to you, good luck.
[06:07] <redblades> kitche ??
[06:07] <carpediem> TheH: let me see if I can dig up the guide I used....
[06:07] <kitche> redblades hang on getting it
[06:07] <redblades> Oka
[06:07] <TheH> thanks I really appreciate that
[06:08] <carpediem> TheH: ah yes, this is for Fedora, but it woks for us too.  http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/mythhd.php.  I just kept messing with the line until I got what I wanted, because I don't have any Windows machines to run Powerstrip.
[06:08] <kitche> redblades: hmm you cna look up auditar also
[06:09] <redblades> kitche  I should mention, I'm on dialup...
[06:09] <TheH> well I did that the powestrip
[06:09] <TheH> yesturday on fedora
[06:09] <theseek3r> carpediem, thank you, seize the day!
[06:09] <carpediem> TheH: no, 720p is better than either 1080i or 540p.  But I don't have that.
[06:10] <kitche> redblades: http://www.remote-exploit.org/index.php/Auditor_tools#Forensics
[06:10] <carpediem> TheH: so if you can get 720p, go for that.
[06:10] <TheH> I did the powestrip with windows for fedora and the modelines did anything
[06:10] <TheH> on fedora I could get the 720p picture to work, meaning no bluescreen, but the size was like a 4:3
[06:11] <TheH> with modelines it was the same
[06:11] <redblades> kitche that's just a list...
[06:11] <kitche> redblades: it shows programs that you can use though
[06:12] <kitche> reblades: try apt-get install recover
[06:12] <redblades> kitche Hrm... :|
[06:12] <carpediem> TheH: sec, I'll tell you how to troubleshoot
[06:13] <TheH> awesome thank you!
[06:13] <minerale> how can I install the native ati driver on my notebook ?
[06:13] <kitche> redblades: recover is used to recover files from a ext2 partition
[06:13] <kitche> !ati > minerale
[06:13] <nai>  hi, my old laptop has kubuntu.... now for some odd reason after entering a right password and user login it always goes back to the login screen the desktop wont launch
[06:14] <xxyyzz> Is there a command you can use (in terminal) to unzip a *.zip file?
[06:14] <wastrel> unzip
[06:15] <xxyyzz> Wow, that was easy, heh.
[06:15] <NthDegree> xxyyzz, try unzip
[06:15] <NthDegree> lol
[06:15] <malice_> can someone please send me there sources.list I relaly messed mine up
[06:15] <xxyyzz> Thanks heaps wastrel & NthDegree :))
[06:15] <malice_> really even
[06:15] <RedGhost> Hello, my laptop has a touchpad (synaptic) and its very eratic, clicking and dragging for no reasonn, I've tried to configure it with synclient but it's still very messed up, someone got a fix?
[06:15] <NthDegree> !source-o-matic
[06:15] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:15] <malice_> and the back up is also screwed up
[06:15] <NthDegree> !source-o-matic
[06:15] <carpediem> TheH: okay, how I troubleshot that was, I ran "startx -- -logverbose"  (yes, exactly like that).  Then, check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:15] <malice_> ty
[06:16] <carpediem> TheH: oops, wait
[06:16] <TheH> ok
[06:16] <carpediem> TheH: "startx -- -logverbose 5" sorry, I left off the 5 before.
[06:16] <carpediem> TheH: it will tell you why it wouldn't run a particular modeline.
[06:17] <keebler> Can anyone point me in the right direction, as to why when I install the nvidia-glx driver for Ubuntu, it says an ATI Radeon 7000 is installed. When in actuality, its a GeForce4 Ti 4600 AGP?
[06:17] <keebler> The same drivers and same card worked on my older pe 500 system.
[06:18] <keebler> Moved the card to my Athlon XP 1600 on a A7N8X motherboard
[06:18] <TheH> ok , one thing I have been running ubuntu for now like 2 hours, is there a command line webpage for it or how to get serting things cuz I'm used to fedora
[06:18] <TheH> it works the same?
[06:18] <malice_> http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic it is asking for 2 letter code for my country I live in the us so would that be us?
[06:18] <peija-kas> TheN -- sec..
[06:18] <redblades> kitche uhh.../ most of those links are either dead or... well one, http://recover.sourceforge.net/linux/recover/download.php3 had the source... but I don't know how t compile it!!!
[06:19] <peija-kas> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Main_Page TheN
[06:19] <kitche> redblades: ubuntu has a package for it
[06:19] <peija-kas> but most commands are the same of course
[06:19] <keebler> Anyone have an idea about my problem?
[06:20] <peija-kas> TheN - http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper  u must mean something like this
[06:20] <keebler> I've tried changing the xorg.conf, to no avail
[06:20] <surface> TheH:  fedora and ubuntu are linux
[06:20] <peija-kas> TheH http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[06:20] <peija-kas> TheH http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Main_Page
[06:20] <TheH> nice thx
[06:21] <DJAdmiral> Hey - anybody having trouble with installing the new flash player update?
[06:21] <peija-kas> read ur nick wrong first ;)
[06:21] <sirmasterboy> hi
[06:21] <peija-kas> DjAdmiral yes the new flash bugs out
[06:21] <nemik> hello, how can i make ubuntu not close my apps and go to a login/startup screen after the screensaver becomes active? i only want a password on my screensaver, but not for the whole session to close!
[06:21] <peija-kas> get it staright from Macromedia page or wait a while
[06:21] <peija-kas> so they fix it
[06:21] <DJAdmiral> peija-kas: oh okay
[06:21] <sirmasterboy> where do i go to get the correct files to install compiz and xgl on ubuntu
[06:21] <DJAdmiral> !xgl
[06:21] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:21] <DJAdmiral> there you go ^^
[06:21] <myatthu> nemik, for me none of the apps closes when it goes to screen saver ..
[06:22] <carpediem> TheH: the X.org stuff works pretty much the same as Fedora, if that's what you mean.
[06:22] <nemik> myatthu, i set the screensaver to go on after 15 minutes and ask for a password. yet when i leave it for a hour or so and come back, it is at the startup/GDM prompt; when i log in the session was closed and all apps closed.
[06:23] <redblades> kitche Gah!!! I just realised! I'm not even on ext2! I'm on ext3! I haven't restarted the computer or turned it off since the incident though...
[06:23] <myatthu> nemik, hmms .. it hasn't happen for me before ... perhaps its a bug ? i leve my com on for whole night btw
[06:23] <carpediem> nemik: any chance one of the screensavers is crashing X?  I've seen it happen.
[06:23] <nemik> myatthu, yea maybe a bug then. thanks for the help
[06:24] <TheH> ok look on fedora on the xorg I used a Option "hd720p" to make the component video work and display a clear picture , no widescreen but a 720p picture
[06:24] <TheH> did you had to input that option?
[06:24] <TheH> or you only did mode line
[06:24] <nemik> carpediem, perhaps, i have xgl and compiz and all that; i'm going to see if it does it when i choose a 'blank' screensaver rather than 'random'
[06:24] <TheH> cuz that guy there from the fedora powestrip thing had none
[06:25] <carpediem> TheH: sorry, I know nothing about that option.
[06:25] <RyuRhRt> help ! how to list the process runing with command?
[06:25] <TheH> i see so the way you did it was only with mode lines
[06:26] <DJAdmiral> RyuRhRt: ps aux
[06:26] <carpediem> TheH: most likely, that should work on ubuntu if it works on Fedora, esp since Ubuntu uses a newer X.org I think.
[06:26] <carpediem> TheH: yes, I did mode blocks, but its the same to X.
[06:26] <RyuRhRt> aux?
[06:26] <mainer> TheH: top,or for everything ps aux in gnome-terminal as super-user
[06:26] <DJAdmiral> RyuRhRt: the command is: ps aux
[06:26] <RyuRhRt> ok thanks
[06:27] <DJAdmiral> anytime
[06:27] <surface> TheH:  i prefer htop
[06:27] <mainer> but ps aux shows more:)
[06:27] <carpediem> why are we talking about top, he's asking about X modelines.
[06:27] <zoidberg> hey guys i have a problem
[06:27] <surface> ps aux goes with grep is useful
[06:27] <DJAdmiral> !ask
[06:27] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:27] <zoidberg> gxine wont play this .avi files i have anymore
[06:28] <nxvl_> hi, i'm having problems updating to edgy
[06:28] <DJAdmiral> odd.
[06:28] <nxvl_> i have some python problems
[06:28] <zoidberg> i'm pretyt sure it used to ....i dunno why its not playing them now
[06:28] <DJAdmiral> zoidberg: incorrect codec?
[06:28] <carpediem> zoidberg: a divx?  you probably don't have the codecs installed.
[06:28] <DJAdmiral> zoidberg: Try them in Mplayer instead?
[06:28] <zoidberg> it says the Xine engine fialed to start: no demuxer found -streamformat not recognized
[06:28] <DJAdmiral> there you go
[06:28] <DJAdmiral> no codec found
[06:28] <zoidberg> caperdiem i did though....
[06:29] <DJAdmiral> !codec
[06:29] <zoidberg> it worked
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <zoidberg> i dunno
[06:29] <surface> zoidberg:  u have any alternatives player? like mplayer?
[06:29] <zoidberg> i guess i can download the codecs again
[06:29] <DJAdmiral> maybe you need to reinstall a codec.
[06:29] <DJAdmiral> !mp3
[06:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:29] <nxvl_> i have heard there are some web page where the error and solution it's, but i dont have any text-based web-browser to go to the page
[06:29] <zoidberg> yeah mplayer doestn play it eitehrh
[06:29] <surface> zoidberg:  i use to have 2 xine and mplayer
[06:29] <zoidberg> and it used to
[06:29] <nxvl_> and mi graphical interface doesn't work because of the upgrade
[06:29] <surface> nxvl_:  links can be a good command line web browser
[06:30] <zoidberg> i guess i can just download divx codecs for gxine and mplayer again....where and how do i do that again?
[06:30] <DJAdmiral> !restricted
[06:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:30] <DJAdmiral> there you go
[06:30] <surface> zoidberg:  u can google it with mplayer xine ubuntu keyword, it should be a lots of info
[06:31] <DJAdmiral> or you can get it from the restrictedformats page
[06:31] <DJAdmiral> anyway people
[06:31] <DJAdmiral> i'd better head out
[06:31] <DJAdmiral> cya
[06:31] <nxvl_> i can't bring my graphical interface up because of locales problem
[06:32] <carpediem> TheH: I have to hit the sack.  If you are unsuccessful, send me a private message, or you can email me at dmartin@dmartin.org and I will try to help.
[06:32] <TheH> thx so much! I will
[06:32] <redblades> kitche would you say that there is very little hope of recovering it?
[06:33] <kitche> redblades: yeah
[06:33] <mainer> nxvl_: edit /etc/environment,or /etc/locales.alias
[06:33] <redblades> I thought so. I'm greping *.eml
[06:33] <mainer> xnvuse sudo prefix
[06:33] <harleypig> Can anyone either help me with a sound problem or point me to a troubleshooting guide?  I have a kubuntu installation
[06:34] <nxvl_> mainer: the whing is that im updating to edgy and my system crashed
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> !alsa
[06:34] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[06:35] <mom>  hi how come i my other accounts cant log in.... i have 4 accounts only this one is working,,, even the first accoutn wont login ....im using the correct user and password for sure. but when i hit log in button it comes back to the login screen without any warnings or what soever
[06:35] <mainer> nxvl_: edgy is experimental/testing whatever you want to call it,and not complete
[06:35] <mom> btw im using kubuntu
[06:35] <harleypig> thns Dr_Willis
[06:35] <eL_PuaS> sdfind in xchat ??
[06:35] <slugsworth> Anyone know how to specify default icons (like for folders, removable media, etc) without hacking a theme rc file?
[06:36] <nxvl_> mainer: i know, i want to test it to help the developers :D
[06:36] <mainer> nxvl_: but sounds like an xorg configuration problem
[06:36] <nxvl_> mainer: no, i thing is an update problem
[06:37] <nxvl_> mainer: some packages have been updated but some not
[06:37] <nxvl_> mainer: so mi xorg crashed
[06:37] <_FBi> Hello! :)
[06:37] <mainer> nxvl_: as superuser try apt-get -f install
[06:37] <mainer> nxvl_: its called dependency he**
[06:38] <nxvl_> mainer: it brings an openoffice problem, and with -f a python problem
[06:38] <_FBi> this is a really lame question...  how do I login as root in ubuntu?
[06:38] <Flannel> _FBi: you don't, use sudo instead
[06:38] <mainer> use sudo prefix and your user passwd
[06:38] <jiSh> _FBi: use sudo -i if you want a temporary root fix. otherwise preface your commands with sudo
[06:38] <Healot> sudo -i; enter your password when prompt...
[06:38] <_FBi> I was using that, but getting annoyed
[06:38] <slugsworth> _FBi: you CAN use root if you want to, you just have to set the password using the "passwd" command.
[06:38] <Flannel> !tell _FBi about sudo
[06:39] <nxvl_> a friend of mine told there were this problems and there is some web where this problems and solutions are, but i have no graphical system and no tex-based web browser
[06:39] <Flannel> _FBi: that'll explain why we use root, etc
[06:39] <nxvl_> i can't also make an ssh conection
[06:39] <Healot> it is not recommended to set password for root account
[06:39] <slugsworth> for good reason.
[06:39] <Flannel> nxvl_: why no text based browsers?
[06:39] <slugsworth> How do I change the default icons in GNOME?
[06:39] <mainer> _FBi: in terminals su,enter passwd>as root type passwd
[06:39] <_FBi> thanks for all your help gentle men!
[06:39] <nxvl_> Flannel: i can't install one because of apt's crash
[06:39] <mainer> enter new root passwd,and sudo still uses your regualr passwd
[06:39] <Flannel> nxvl_: did you have a working system prior?
[06:40] <nxvl_> Flannel: so im in a problem, i need a web browser to fix my apt and apt to install a web-browser
[06:40] <_FBi> next question: I would like to install drivers...  http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/INSTALL
[06:40] <Flannel> nxvl_: did you already have a working system?
[06:40] <nxvl_> Flannel: no
[06:41] <Flannel> nxvl_: so, why not just reinstall then?
[06:41] <Flannel> nxvl_: no telling what else isn't installed correctly
[06:41] <nxvl_> Flannel: well, i use to have one, i have install whis ubuntu from breezy
[06:41] <nxvl_> the updated to dapper
[06:41] <Flannel> nxvl_: so, you have lynx then
[06:42] <nxvl_> and now trying to update to edgy
[06:42] <Flannel> nxvl_: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support, but lynx should be installed already
[06:42] <nxvl_> Flannel: it comes by default with breezy?
[06:42] <Flannel> nxvl_: yes
[06:42] <nxvl_> Flannel: mmm
[06:42] <nxvl_> Flannel: there is not here
[06:42] <nxvl_> :S
[06:42] <slugsworth> Come on, _someone_ must know how to change system icons.  It can't be that difficult.
[06:43] <Flannel> nxvl_: #ubuntu+1 for edgy questions, it's still in alpha
[06:43] <alex222> how do you move all files in adirectory to another one
[06:43] <nxvl_> Flannel: i will go there, thnx
[06:43] <slugsworth> alex222: either drag and drop, or use 'mv' in a terminal
[06:43] <surface> alex222:  mv /dir1 /dir2
[06:43] <sess> omg, these new VW commercials are absolutely TERRIBLE
[06:43] <surface> alex222:  mv /dir1/* /dir2
[06:43] <sess> Im actually getting angry after having seen this
[06:44] <jared777> I have a shortcut on my destop for windows NTFS mounted partition but it won't let me access it.  How do I modify the desktop entry to allow me access?
[06:44] <slugsworth> jared777: I'm not sure if there's support for NTFS read/write yet, but it's probably not a good idea...
[06:44] <Flannel> slugsworth: read is plenty fine
[06:45] <Flannel> !tell jared777 about ntfs
[06:45] <jared777> I can read it from a terminal if i use a sudo command to get to the dir
[06:45] <Healot> there is, but really experimental
[06:45] <variant> lo all, i have aiglx installed and running properly with xfce4 but i dont get any wobble or anything.. do i need to replace xfwm4 with compiz or somthing?
[06:45] <cablesm102> Can anyone tell me how to clear results from Beagle, for example all web pages indexed?
[06:45] <Flannel> jared777: read the page ubotu sent you
[06:45] <slugsworth> I prefer sticking to ext2 - there's an installable file system for windows
[06:45] <Flannel> variant: #ubuntu-xgl
[06:45] <variant> Flannel: aiglx
[06:45] <jared777> I want a link on the desktop to link directly to it how to i get it to run as root automatically?
[06:46] <Laptop765> Hey, does anyone know why after a reboot Ubuntu has seemingly stopped accepting connections to SSH and Ventrilo from only 1 computer (i.e. 4 others were able to connect to Ventrilo)?
[06:46] <slugsworth> I want to change icons.  Surely it can be done?
[06:47] <cablesm102> jared, you want to make a link that will let you run something as root
[06:47] <Flannel> jared777: you don't, you change the way it was mounted, read the link ubotu sent you
[06:47] <cablesm102> jared, do you want to make a link that runs the program as root?
[06:48] <J-_> are mp3 players plug and play devices under linux too, or do i have to get a driver?
[06:48] <cablesm102> J-_, they are plug and play
[06:48] <cablesm102> in ubuntu at least, they should show up as drives
[06:48] <PopeOfWar> I need help installing my Network Controller
[06:48] <J-_> cool, thanks
[06:48] <Healot> J-_, including you iPod
[06:48] <J-_> don't have an ipod =D might get one tomorrow
[06:49] <cablesm102> J-_, Amarok has good ipod support
[06:49] <jbmigel> J-_ drm is bad
[06:49] <PopeOfWar> J-_: I would suggest getting a Creative Zen
[06:49] <jbmigel> ya them are betterer
[06:49] <cablesm102> jbmigel, iPod != DRM
[06:49] <J-_> hmm, how much do they run in comparison to an ipod?
[06:49] <cablesm102> if he wants an ipod, he can use it in Amarok drm-free
[06:50] <THX-1138> Wuld it be okay to ask how to fix jagged fonts in world of warcraft. (lol - i comepletely understand if you say no.)
[06:50] <cablesm102> J-_, Creative makes craploads of models, check them out.
[06:50] <J-_> k cool
[06:50] <jbmigel> cablesml02 my ipod is broken and i need to install windows to upgrade the rom... that is bad too
[06:50] <J-_> thanks for the info
[06:50] <cablesm102> jbmigel, do you have any friends that you haven't converted to linux yet?
[06:50] <jbmigel> no
[06:50] <PopeOfWar> J-_: A 30GB Zen is $300, and a 30GB iPod is $250, but the Zen shows 6 times as many colors, and has greater sound quality than the iPod
[06:50] <jbmigel> :)
[06:51] <cablesm102> ah. It's good to keep one around :)
[06:51] <_FBi> !driver
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about driver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <Waterbou> Mentioning iPods, is there an easy way to upload videos to the iPod?
[06:51] <PopeOfWar> And I'm talking about the Zen Vision:M
[06:51] <J-_> i might just get an ipod nano
[06:51] <cablesm102> until Edgy comes out with Amarok 1.4, I reboot to windows to update my ipod
[06:51] <cablesm102> all my crap is in AAC
[06:51] <PopeOfWar> Waterbou: iTunes is the only way.
[06:51] <_FBi> http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/INSTALL  could anyone help me with this install?
[06:51] <ubunter> hi. what default number should i type in menu.lst to start windows on default?
[06:51] <PopeOfWar> Well, the only easy way, at least...
[06:51] <THX-1138> Ubuntu is the best. - You can keep all the windows viruses and trojans, lack of configurability, closed source, etc,
[06:52] <Waterbou> PopeOfWar, is it possible to run iTunes in Ubuntu?  Well, easily?
[06:52] <cablesm102> Waterbou, it doesn't work properly in Wine
[06:52] <Killgore> steam?
[06:52] <cablesm102> ubunter, I think you need to move the Windows option to the top
[06:52] <PopeOfWar> I have no clue... but you either can, or you can't, there won't be an easy way and a hard way
[06:53] <Flannel> ubunter: whichever the number (count from zero) down windows is
[06:53] <cablesm102> PopeOfWar, I suggest going to winehq.org and checking out the AppDB
[06:53] <THX-1138> Would Cedega work ny better for itunes? - It handles disk copy protection schemes and directX gracefuly
[06:53] <_FBi> Please I'm a little lost with this install...  it's not very big, just need a little guidence
[06:53] <cablesm102> Check their list
[06:53] <Killgore> but cedega isnt free
[06:53] <cablesm102> FBi, I'll check it out
[06:54] <ubunter> Flannel - thanks
[06:54] <PopeOfWar> I am new to Linux, and I need some help installing my Network Controller drivers... can somebody give me instructions?
[06:54] <Healot> _FBi, ask ahead
[06:54] <Flannel> !tell _FBi about compile
[06:54] <Flannel> _FBi: that page explains a lot about what oyure doing
[06:54] <THX-1138> True enough. - though Free as in beer isn't everything.
[06:54] <ubunter> but ubuntu doesn`t allow me to save what i wrote in menu.lst
[06:54] <cablesm102> ubunter
[06:54] <jbmigel> i heard the other day that shuttleworth has spent $20M on ubuntu so far. wow eh?
[06:54] <cablesm102> here's what you do
[06:55] <Killgore> PopeOfWar, didnt ubuntu automatically install them?
[06:55] <cablesm102> open the terminal, and type gksudo /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:55] <andaraone> hey guys i was just wondering what if any burning apps you used for cd/dvd
[06:55] <_FBi> Flannel, it's about removing and installing drivers.  I'l lrad your page and get back to you
[06:55] <jbmigel> thats alot of postage stamp for free cd's
[06:55] <cablesm102> andaraone, gnomebaker is good
[06:55] <Flannel> ubunter: you need to open it with a sudo command, so, gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst or sudo nano /etc/grub/menu.lst
[06:55] <mheath[laptop] > THX-1138, yes, but wasting money on a product like Cedega when Wine can now do virtually everything it can isnt everything either :-)
[06:55] <PopeOfWar> Killgore: Ubuntu isn't detecting it.
[06:55] <myatthu> 20m ? if i got as much money as he has i will spend 200 m!!! now i got 20 bucks ...
[06:55] <andaraone> thank you
[06:55] <andaraone> cable
[06:55] <Madpilot> andaraone, for data, the file manager (Nautilus) has a good burner built in
[06:55] <cablesm102> ubunter, try gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:55] <noobie0057> I saved some files to a DVD.. yesterday can I add some files to it today?
[06:55] <cablesm102> that will let you save it
[06:56] <ubunter> Flannel - works, thanks
[06:56] <ubunter> cablesm102 - works, thanks
[06:56] <THX-1138> jbmigel - I read that too. - would hate to lose Ubuntu. - we have lost Loki and some other nice things by not supporting them with cash. - I contribute $ to ubuntu.
[06:56] <Killgore> PopeOfWar: try this command in the terminal
[06:56] <myatthu> andaraone, i strongly recommend k3b :P
[06:56] <Killgore> PopeOfWar: sudo lspci | grep Ethernet
[06:56] <jbmigel> THX-1138 I spend all my money on dope.
[06:56] <cablesm102> myatthu, it really depends on whether he has gnome or kde
[06:56] <PopeOfWar> The readme that came in the .gz file told me how to install the drivers to a Red Hat-based distribution, not a Debian-based
[06:56] <PopeOfWar> Killgore: Ok, I will try that, thank you
[06:57] <Killgore> PopeOfWar: did that command return anything?
[06:57] <myatthu> cablesm102, i got gnome and i use k3b ... i don't see why not ?
[06:57] <minerale> How can I tell what kind of cpu I have? I have a Gateway notebook, not sure what model I know it's a centrino
[06:57] <Crankeye> hey guys
[06:57] <Killgore> i use amarok under gnome
[06:57] <THX-1138> cpuid
[06:57] <cablesm102> myatthu, using kde apps in gnome makes you install tons of deps
[06:57] <Crankeye> funny funny, now edgy update made my audio speed up
[06:57] <cablesm102> for only one app, i don't think it's worth it
[06:57] <Crankeye> any idea what to downgrade?
[06:57] <andaraone> which gnomegaker do i want
[06:57] <THX-1138> for the kernel use uname
[06:57] <jbmigel> minerale centrino is your cpu... the 386 kernel will do you just fine
[06:57] <Crankeye> >_>;
[06:57] <cablesm102> just install gnomebaker
[06:57] <andaraone> i am at the home page of the web site
[06:58] <PopeOfWar> Killgore: I am currently in WinXP... my ethernet controller is not installed to Linux, so I am unable to connect to the internet with it. I will boot into Ubuntu and try the Terminal command, then I will come back in a few minutes.
[06:58] <cablesm102> sudo aptitude install gnomebaker
[06:58] <Killgore> ok
[06:58] <myatthu> cablesm102, its up to him of course :P recommendation means .. just recommendation
[06:58] <Killgore> PopeOfWar:
[06:58] <Madpilot> andaraone, if you want gnomebaker, just install it w/ Add/Remove Apps
[06:58] <J-_> http://www.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=213&subcategory=214&product=15283 i like that =D
[06:58] <cablesm102> myatthu, that's true.
[06:58] <Killgore> PopeOfWar: fair enough
[06:58] <andaraone> oh its built in
[06:58] <THX-1138> Hi Madpilot.
[06:58] <minerale> jbmigel: do I need smp kernerl if I have Hyperthreding ?
[06:58] <PopeOfWar> Killgore: Wait... does the lspci mean check for the card in a pci slot?
[06:58] <Madpilot> hi THX-1138
[06:58] <PopeOfWar> Or something along those lines...
[06:58] <cablesm102> minerale, no. It will make things faster though.
[06:59] <Killgore> PopeOfWar: that command will list if ubuntu is detecting your card. Which i assume it is. Can you send me the link where you got the .gz file?
[06:59] <mainer> PopeOfWar: pci bus yes
[06:59] <Crankeye> Since updating edgy, my audio plays sped up. any ideas?
[06:59] <sklav> later all im off
[06:59] <Crankeye> see yah
[06:59] <THX-1138> GN sklav
[06:59] <noobie0057>  I saved some files to a DVD.. yesterday can I add some files to it today?
[06:59] <jbroome> Crankeye: edgy stuff is in #ubuntu+1
[06:59] <Flannel> Crankeye: #ubnutu+1
[06:59] <PopeOfWar> Ok... the Network Controller is integrated into the motherboard, it's not in a PCI slot
[06:59] <jbmigel> minerale hyperthreading should work with smp kernel
[06:59] <sklav> GN guy's and gal's ;)
[06:59] <Crankeye> kk thx
[07:00] <PopeOfWar> Killgore: http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&Inst=Yes&ProductID=999&DwnldID=2896&strOSs=39&OSFullName=Linux*&lang=eng
[07:00] <ubunter> morning to you, men
[07:00] <Flannel> minerale: You using dapper or breezy?
[07:00] <minerale> jbmigel: how would I install the smp kernel? I saw it somewhere but can't seem to find it
[07:00] <minerale> flannel: 6.06, dapper
[07:00] <Flannel> minerale: Anything (non 386) is SMP enabled already (such as -686)
[07:00] <Senesence> Did anyone get Python 2.5 IDLE working on ubuntu?
[07:01] <jbmigel> minerale you should look into compiling your own kernel if your interested in getting the most from your hardware.
[07:01] <andaraone> the only one i found was xfburn
[07:01] <andaraone> any comments on that
[07:02] <mortici> lol
[07:02] <mortici> wow
[07:02] <kishore> hi all
[07:02] <kishore> i hav one doubt
[07:02] <kishore> i hav installed.. MONO..
[07:02] <alan__> need help with Ubuntu Dapper Server and backuppc, Invalid network name in tree connect. message
[07:02] <kishore> but i  donno how to use it
[07:02] <kishore> can any one help me
[07:02] <Killgore> PopeOfWar: i woudl think that ubuntu would have autodetected that card
[07:02] <Killgore> PopeOfWar: it seems fairly common
[07:02] <jbmigel> minerale http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24853.html
[07:02] <Killgore> PopeOfWar: is it?
[07:02] <spiderworm> !dv
[07:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:02] <spiderworm> !dvd
[07:02] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:02] <kishore> how to use mono.. to run .ne applications
[07:03] <Flannel> jbmigel, minerale, you don't need to compile your own kernel, the prepackaged ones will work just fine
[07:03] <pink1> Is there a way to add a shortcut to right clicking?  Like holding down Ctrl and left-clicking will be interpreted by Ubuntu as a right-click?
[07:03] <tieTYT2> i'm using the livecd and right after I click press enter on "start or install Ubuntu" and it takes some time loading stuff, the screen turns into a bunch of vertical bars
[07:03] <alan__> can anyone help with ubundu server and backuppc?
[07:03] <jbmigel> Flannel what would be the fun in using a stock kernel?
[07:04] <Flannel> jbmigel: this isn't #gentoo
[07:04] <PopeOfWar> Killgore: I'm not sure, it is put on motherboards made specificaly for Dell...
[07:04] <jbmigel> Flannel duh
[07:04] <noobie0057> Does ubuntu finalize data DVD's after it burns? Is it too late to add files after burning and ejecting a DVD? I used the automatic feature when inserting a blank DVD.
[07:04] <THX-1138> tieTYT2 - hm - i can only guess try enabling disabling the framebuffer option in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:04] <asidjazz> why wont ubuntu run /etc/bashrc or /etc/profile or /etc/bash.bashrc upon login? im tring to add some sysvars and none of those files are running when you login... ?
[07:04] <Senesence> Did anyone get python 2.5 running on Ubuntu?
[07:04] <_FBi> Flannel, still struggling :(
[07:05] <tieTYT2> THX-1138: how can I do that when it's from a CD and I can't see anything?
[07:05] <Flannel> _FBi: from that page... it says to untar the file, then run make, then make install, the make install you'll need to prefix with sudo, you'll also need build-essential (the package) before all this
[07:05] <PopeOfWar> Killgore: I will come back in a few minutes, I will try that Terminal command
[07:05] <Killgore> PopeOfWar: ok
[07:05] <_FBi> lol I know, and knew that...
[07:06] <_FBi> but Flannel :  that's where it breaks
[07:06] <Flannel> _FBi: alright ;)  um, google seems to think you need to recompile your kernel with support for it.  Ubuntuforums might have a thread, I'd search there if I were you
[07:06] <Killgore> ive been experimenting with dual screens and have managed to get 2 seperate x sessions running. does anyone know how to join them as an extended desktop
[07:06] <_FBi> fbi@fbi-laptop:~/ieee80211-1.2.15$ sudo make IEEE80211_INC=/usr/include
[07:06] <_FBi> Checking in /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386 for ieee80211 components...
[07:06] <_FBi> find: /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build/: No such file or directory
[07:06] <THX-1138> tie, - Erm, lol - good question i haven't had that problem recently. so can only suggest the alternate (text install CD) - google for command line options or the ability to edit an answer file.
[07:07] <Flannel> _FBi: ah, you need kernel headers
[07:07] <tieTYT2> THX-1138: ok thanks
[07:07] <Flannel> !tell _FBi about kernel
[07:07] <Flannel> _FBi: that page has some good info for you as well
[07:07] <THX-1138> !display
[07:07] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:07] <rageprblm> I have a quick question that im hoping someone can answer for me
[07:08] <jbmigel> RagePrblm i have an answer that im hoping your question is for
[07:09] <RagePrblm> :) Groovy
[07:09] <orbin> RagePrblm: if you want a quick answer you have to ask your quick question
[07:09] <Frederick> folks in wich folder do I sav a package to install it with apt?
[07:09] <AbortD> eh
[07:09] <ubunter> i typed number 5 in menu.lst but it doesn`t work, here is the file http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OGXF4BY9 , who can tell me what number should i type in "default" to start windows?
[07:09] <Flannel> Frederick: whereever.  You realise that apt-get downloads things for you though, right?
[07:09] <RagePrblm> I finally got XGL/Compiz to run on Ubuntu, but now Xchat will not launch, as it is the default IRC program I like to use, is there a way to make it run? Or is it incompatible with running in compiz
[07:10] <Flannel> RagePrblm: #ubuntu-xgl
[07:10] <RagePrblm> Oh, thank you
[07:10] <Frederick> Flannel, yep but I want codeblocks
[07:10] <AbortD> Frederick, if you just sudo apt-get install filename.ext
[07:10] <AbortD> hm
[07:10] <Frederick> wich has a package for ubuntu but isn't listed in apt
[07:10] <Flannel> RagePrblm: or #xgl if they aren't active, etc
[07:10] <thansen|laptop> anyone know how to get rid of this when running autoconf?
[07:10] <thansen|laptop>  gtk-doc.make:7: GTK_DOC_USE_LIBTOOL does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
[07:10] <RagePrblm> Thanks again Flannel
[07:10] <Flannel> ubunter: use pastebin, not... whatever you just used
[07:10] <Flannel> !paste
[07:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:11] <Killgore> yeah
[07:11] <Killgore> that site is crap
[07:11] <thansen|laptop> or autoreconf
[07:11] <Killgore> lol
[07:11] <noobie0057> how can I get help in the ubuntu forum?
[07:11] <Flannel> noobie0057: you... create an account, and post a question, I imagine
[07:11] <Sievo> I'm new to linux, and I'm trying to setup a dual boot with my old XP hdd.  Can anyone help?
[07:11] <Flannel> !tell Sievo about dualboot
[07:12] <Killgore> Sievo: man thats fun
[07:12] <Flannel> Frederick: then just save it whereever, and you'll use dpkg -i to install it
[07:12] <Chandan> hi , May I know how to build Ubuntu custom cd
[07:12] <jbmigel> noobie0057 whats your dealio man? windows got you down/
[07:12] <Flannel> Chandan: install CD or live CD/
[07:12] <Flannel> Chandan: er, Alternate or Desktop?
[07:12] <_FBi> !tell _FBi about headers
[07:12] <noobie0057> does linux/ubuntu finalize data dvd's is it too late to add files to a dvd? Does the dvd type or dvd burner matter?
[07:12] <Frederick> k
[07:13] <ubunter> Flannel - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24329
[07:13] <noobie0057> I just burned like 20 dvds and I need to add 1 file to each one...
[07:13] <Flannel> noobie0057: it's most likely too late, yes
[07:14] <jbmigel> noobie0057 did you already finalize the dvd's?
[07:14] <noobie0057> In windows I have the choice to finalize,, I didnt see that using ubuntu
[07:14] <jbmigel> noobie0057 did you use gnomebaker or what?
[07:14] <ubunter> i typed number 5 in menu.lst but it doesn`t work, here is the file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24329 , who can tell me what number should i type in "default" to start windows?
[07:15] <Flannel> ubunter: that'd either be 4 or 3, depending on if the divider counts or not
[07:15] <Flannel> ubunter: I'd try 4 first
[07:15] <ubunter> ok
[07:15] <noobie0057> When I poped in a blank dvd, it was recognized as blank and allowed me to drag files to some area, then click a button to burn,, then I could easily burn another by clicking 1 button
[07:15] <THX-1138> Hi Flannel - tieTYT2 wanted to know if there was a command line option to enable/disable the frame buffer prior to install. Again, It's great to have you here.
[07:16] <jbmigel> noobie0057 wow that sounds cool... so try to drag and drop another file onto your disk
[07:16] <Flannel> THX-1138: er, I have no idea.  You're using the livecd?  I know the alternate there is, although you probably don't need to disable in the textmode installer
[07:16] <PopeOfWar> Killgore: I booted into Ubuntu and entered the command into Terminal: sudo lspci | grep Ethernet
[07:16] <Killgore> PopeOfWar: cool
[07:16] <Sievo> I get that dual boot page, but it doesnt really help because I took my xp drive out when I installed Ubuntu. Now I want lilo to be able to select to boot xp from hdb
[07:16] <THX-1138> Flannel - It can't be changed using the live CD?
[07:17] <_FBi> Flannel, does it matter where I extract the files too?
[07:17] <noobie0057> now I cannot drag another file,, but I do not know if that is becuase of the way the DVD was mounted,,
[07:17] <THX-1138> Flannel - Is there a text mode for the live CD??
[07:17] <Flannel> _FBi: it shouldn't no.
[07:17] <PopeOfWar> Killgore: It asked me for my password, then returned: 0000:00:19.0 Ethernet Controller: Intel Corporation: Unknown Device 1046 (rev 02)
[07:17] <Flannel> THX-1138: no, the liveCD is graphical, the textmode (alternate ISO) is just an installer
[07:18] <Flannel> THX-1138: I imagine it can be on the Desktop/LiveCD, I have no idea how though
[07:18] <THX-1138> Flannel - Okay, good to know.
[07:18] <KanRiNiN> Hey, I installed python-mutagen but listen-beta.deb still says it's an unsatisfiable dependency
[07:18] <KanRiNiN> any ideas?
[07:18] <_FBi> KanRiNiN, use synaptic
[07:19] <MukiEX> I wanna install Windows (legally bought) but I know it'll foobar grub. Is there a boot-disc that auto-searches and re-installed grub correctly?
[07:19] <MukiEX> *re-installs
[07:19] <THX-1138> !grub
[07:19] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:19] <Flannel> KanRiNiN: listen-beta isn't a dependency to python-mutagen
[07:19] <MukiEX> Thank ye, sir THX 'n bot =3
[07:24] <NeilyBoy> did anyone else notice that?
[07:24] <reddeth> o.O
[07:24] <Flannel> the netsplit?
[07:24] <NeilyBoy> yes
[07:24] <Killgore> PopeOfWar: probably
[07:24] <_FBi> Flannel, my error is make -C /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build   I'm running 686
[07:24] <Killgore> PopeOfWar: if not
[07:24] <_FBi> yep
[07:24] <JoseStefan> ok, who tripped over the network cable?
[07:24] <_FBi> lol
[07:24] <THX-1138> lol
[07:24] <PopeOfWar> THX-1138: I suggest uninstalling WoW, before it sucks the personality out of you, LMAO
[07:24] <THX-1138> Flannel - ROFLMAO - Too late
[07:25] <Flannel> THX-1138: what?
[07:25] <bathory> any spanish person?
[07:25] <Flannel> !es
[07:25] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:25] <PopeOfWar> THX-1138: You mean, PopeOfWar?
[07:25] <NeilyBoy> i was so excited when i gt WoW.. 15 hours later, I stopped playing it indefinitely
[07:25] <THX-1138> lol already installed it this afternoon. i am doomed!
[07:25] <reddeth> Alright, I'm relatively new to Linux to please go easy on me, I'm trying to get the Add/Remove program working. Whenever I try to update/install/etc anything, it keeps giving me an error that the connection failed.
[07:25] <PopeOfWar> lmao
[07:26] <nanotube> hello, how to I install HP scanner which is on the network?
[07:26] <reddeth> I dont have the acctual log in front of me, but it says along the lines of "http://us.unbutu.blah blah blah connection failed (98.24.63.14)"
[07:26] <THX-1138> ooh - pardon me. should of saie PopeOfWar.
[07:26] <PopeOfWar> Killgore: Well, thanks for your help, hopefully I will see you in the morning, if not, I don't blame you, lol.
[07:26] <PopeOfWar> Good night everybody!
[07:26] <Killgore> PopeOfWar: k
[07:26] <_FBi> night
[07:26] <Dendron> hey everyone!
[07:26] <THX-1138> GN PopeOfWar.
[07:26] <harleypig> I've read various threads and howtos, including the one pointed to by Dr_Wi earlier.  It looks like things are pointing to a card 0 by default, but I only have card 1 and card 2 ...
[07:26] <harleypig> I can't find how to force alsa to use card 1 ... any pointers?
[07:27] <Killgore> hey who is using dual-monitors here?
[07:27] <Dendron> i cant seem to remove a folder from my desktop. i rebooted and its still there. what do i type in the terminal since the GUI isnt letting me remove the file?
[07:27] <_FBi> rm
[07:27] <Dendron> rm: cannot remove `wx': Is a directory
[07:28] <THX-1138> or sudo rm -f      force
[07:28] <Dendron> thanx
[07:28] <Dendron> brb
[07:28] <Dendron> same error: rm: cannot remove `wx': Is a directory
[07:29] <JoseStefan> Dendron, rmdir for directories, or use rm -R (for recursive)
[07:29] <Dendron> i downloaded wxWidgets and compiled it and stuff and isntalled it. BUt cant remove it.
[07:29] <harleypig> Dendron: rm -fr wx
[07:29] <Killgore> sudo rm -R wx
[07:29] <Dendron> recursive, thats what i was looking for
[07:29] <THX-1138> -R   recursive
[07:29] <Dendron> perfect! Thanks!
[07:30] <chaos> I fscking love Linux
[07:30] <Killgore> lol
[07:30] <chaos> had to get that out
[07:30] <THX-1138> "" - I couldn't go back to windows now even if i wanted too.
[07:30] <Killgore> i go back to play games
[07:30] <KanRiNiN> _FBi: The Flash-plugin seems to be caught in a loop.  Any ideas?
[07:30] <solo_lxy> what ?
[07:31] <KanRiNiN> I mean as far as synaptic installation goes
[07:31] <Killgore> KanRiNiN: where it wont let you not accept the license agreement?
[07:31] <chaos> same killgore, but I'm gettin into the wine :)
[07:31] <Killgore> chaos: steam the bastard wont work :(
[07:31] <THX-1138> Killgore - If you install WoW you won't need any other games.  - lol (It runs in linux)
[07:31] <chaos> steam is the easy part
[07:31] <Dendron> speaking of wine. How well does wine run Dreamweaver and pShop?
[07:31] <lsald> broken packages? liblame0? Gone?
[07:31] <chaos> i've heard people use pshop
[07:32] <_FBi> <-- n00b
[07:32] <Killgore> THX-1138: i might play WoW in the holidays
[07:32] <chaos> the wine site has a list of apps and instructions as well as a bugzilla
[07:32] <Dendron> i used both with COdeWeavers CrossOver perfectly. Just curious of wine.
[07:32] <Killgore> wtf i cant rename a directory even as root!!!
[07:32] <KanRiNiN> Killgore: No, I click forward and it just asks again
[07:32] <Dendron> lemmy check out wine and the list of apps
[07:32] <KanRiNiN> really annoying
[07:32] <nightshade> who knows of a really good site to learn about ubuntu
[07:32] <chaos> killgore, impossible
[07:32] <lsald> nightshade, the wiki
[07:33] <chaos> nightshade: google
[07:33] <Killgore> OH I GET IT
[07:33] <nightshade> not a searc engine
[07:33] <Killgore> DUH
[07:33] <Killgore> you cant have spaces in a folder name
[07:33] <Killgore> :S
[07:33] <baconbacon> !wiki
[07:33] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[07:33] <Killgore> at the end anyway
[07:33] <lsald> who knows why liblame0 is gone?
[07:33] <chaos> google knows your deepest desires, trust the google and they will spare you when they take over the world
[07:33] <Killgore> KanRiNiN: so it keeps asking you to download the package?
[07:34] <Killgore> KanRiNiN: that happened to me as well
[07:34] <lsald> fresh install and i cant get my restricted formats going... >|
[07:34] <yugge> Hey, I got one 40gb primary partition  which I would like to resize to two smaller partitions. I know I can use gparted for that. But my problem is that Gparted wont allow me to resize partitions mounted. And that partition is the one that root is mounted on...
[07:34] <chaos> killgore, you can have spaces in folder names, you need to specify that though
[07:34] <orbin> Killgore: i think you can if you use the escape thingy
[07:34] <yugge> sorry for the big post ;p
[07:34] <KanRiNiN> no, it's downloaded.  but whenever I install anything through synaptic or click escape it pops up again
[07:34] <Killgore> orbin, chaos yeah i figured it out :)
[07:34] <chaos> "/home/lol/I pwn/" or /home/lol/I\ Pwn/
[07:34] <Killgore> KanRiNiN: yeah same problem
[07:34] <Killgore> KanRiNiN: i fixed it tho
[07:35] <chaos> I was just playing Counter-strike 1.6 fine w/ steam
[07:35] <chaos> source is a bitch though
[07:35] <Killgore> chaos: damn u!!!
[07:35] <Killgore> it wont even load the games
[07:35] <Killgore> like steam starts fine
[07:35] <chaos> people have gotten it to run, but it's still pretty messy
[07:35] <Killgore> but as soon as i download a game
[07:36] <chaos> 1.6 runs transparently
[07:36] <Killgore> it just dies
[07:36] <chaos> killgore, you probably need the repos for the latest wine
[07:36] <THX-1138> yugge - use a live CD? the install cd or possibly the gparted live cd a few extra tools incl there.
[07:36] <chaos> they are on the wine site
[07:36] <chaos> add them to your sources.list
[07:36] <Killgore> im pretty sure i have them chaos
[07:37] <Killgore> 0.9.21
[07:37] <chaos> yep
[07:37] <chaos> did you get the libraries?
[07:37] <Killgore> thats the version i have which is up to date
[07:37] <Killgore> which libs do i need?
[07:37] <chaos> do a synaptic search
[07:37] <Killgore> for wine?
[07:38] <chaos> libwine and libwine-dev
[07:38] <SperMite> what happend to lilo?
[07:38] <KanRiNiN> this is so annoying!  It looks as if I can't Beta .5 of Listen without Edgy due to the dependencies on python-central and python-mutagen!
[07:38] <chaos> get those
[07:38] <KanRiNiN> I guess it's time for a dist-upgrade?
[07:38] <chaos> killgore, also make sure you are running the latest kernel
[07:38] <KanRiNiN> but it's going to break my ATI drivers and such, won't it?
[07:38] <Flannel> KanRiNiN: #ubuntu+1 for edgy questions, still, listen-beta isn't a dependency
[07:38] <KanRiNiN> :-(
[07:38] <orbin> SperMite: http://freenode.net/news.shtml
[07:38] <Killgore> chaos: which is....
[07:39] <THX-1138> You need to handle one of the most updated and heavilly protected directx driven games on the planet.    - save yourself some pain and subscribe to cedega. I
[07:39] <KanRiNiN> Flannel: I know listen-beta isn't a dependency, however it requires other dependencies that aren't available via synaptic for dapper
[07:39] <chaos> linux-image-2.6.15-27
[07:39] <Killgore> chaos: do i need libwine? synaptic just says its a dummy package
[07:39] <KanRiNiN> e.g. python-mutagen is still v.1 instead of v.1.7
[07:39] <chaos> what is the version on those libraries killgore?
[07:39] <Killgore> chaos: ok i have the latest kernel
[07:40] <Killgore> chaos: 0.9.9
[07:40] <chaos> eeew
[07:40] <chaos> that would be the source of your frustration
[07:40] <ghostfreeman>  Anyone here know how to install xgl and compiz on 6.06
[07:41] <chaos> you running dapper killgore?
[07:41] <cherubiel> !xgl > ghostfreeman
[07:41] <Killgore> chaos: ya
[07:41] <chaos> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main AND deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[07:41] <ghostfreeman> yes
[07:41] <Killgore> chaos: i dont have those installed tho
[07:41] <chaos> add those to your sources.list file
[07:41] <THX-1138> Thank You for your help. Good Night everyone!
[07:41] <Killgore> k
[07:41] <Killgore> what are they exactly?
[07:41] <chaos> custom repos for the latest wine packages
[07:41] <nanotube> how do I add HP network scanner in ubuntu?
[07:41] <Killgore> k cool
[07:42] <chaos> from the wine site
[07:42] <lukas_> My ATi Radeon 7000 card seem don't support direct rendering on Dapper ?
[07:42] <SperMite> did they fix the bug issue with the xserver-xorg-core?
[07:42] <ArrenLex> Lukas, are you using the fglrx drivers?
[07:42] <lukas_> ArrenLex: yes
[07:42] <nanotube> how do I add HP network scanner in ubuntu?
[07:42] <ArrenLex> Lukas: what does fglrxinfo say?
[07:42] <lukas_> mesa
[07:43] <lukas_> indirect rendering
[07:43] <lukas_> though i have installed the lastest ubuntu-fglrx pkg
[07:43] <Killgore> chaos: and which packages will i want to install, just wine
[07:43] <ArrenLex> Lukas: what's in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:43] <chaos> in synaptic search for wine
[07:44] <chaos> killgore, install wine, wine-dev, libwine, and libwine-dev
[07:44] <Killgore> i found the proprietry ati drivers worked better
[07:44] <Killgore> are they the same thing?
[07:44] <ArrenLex> Killgore, fglrx is the proprietary driver.
[07:44] <chaos> are they 9.9.21?
[07:44] <chaos> err.. 0.9.21
[07:45] <Killgore> i think soi
[07:45] <Killgore> ya they are
[07:45] <Killgore> ArrenLex: ok then the ati installer worked better, i think
[07:46] <lukas_> ArrenLex: http://pastebin.com/791768
[07:47] <ArrenLex> Killgore: actually, ubuntu has fglrx available in the restricted drivers package. It's easier.
[07:47] <lukas_> all my Xorg.log
[07:48] <victor__> can somebdy tell me why i have this error in konsole when i try to install Last.fm program?
[07:48] <victor__> ./bin_LastFM: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot handle TLS data
[07:49] <chaos> killgore, after you install those packages you'll need the tahoma.ttf font for the steam interface
[07:49] <Gevaudan82> victor_: hard to say in all honesty...i assume this program isnt' avaiable via apt-get?
[07:49] <victor__> mhhh i dont think so
[07:49] <victor__> how's the command can you tell me?
[07:49] <chaos> get it somehow and put it in /usr/share/fonts/truetype <-- something like that path
[07:49] <lukas_> apt repo has last-fm packages ??
[07:50] <ArrenLex> Lukas, how about your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:51] <sciboy> Hey guys, got a question. When i boot up i have a dhcp interface specified as auto, so naturally it just sits around until it has connected, issue is though that it takes quite a while so it slows my entire boot time down, i was wondering whether there is a way i can specificy the interface to be auto, but to run it in the background as not to interrupt the sequence.
[07:51] <orbin> !scanner > nanotube
[07:52] <lukas_> ArrenLex: it here  http://vnoss.net/p/69
[07:56] <dennisharrison_A> alright
[07:56] <dennisharrison_A> party! ;p
[07:57] <Sync_> waah
[07:57] <Sync_> ^^
[07:57] <chaos> that was... interesting
[07:57] <Surfnkid> and i thought it was my paccket sniffer having bugs or sumfn
[07:58] <baconbacon> that's really distrupting the conversations
[07:58] <Surfnkid> tell me about it
[07:58] <Sync_> megacycle^^
[07:58] <lukas_> ArrenLex: after change driver to fglrx X can not start
[07:58] <mark__> anone know what this means?, just it came up in a terminal after I rebooted and I didn't type it > PROMPT_COMMAND='pwd>&7;kill -STOP $$'
[07:59] <phuzz> when burning dvds with k3b/growisofs i get '/dev/scd1 media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 9' any ideas? (i know thats the right device)
[07:59] <Surfnkid> haha
[07:59] <Surfnkid> upside down
[07:59] <ArrenLex> lukas: tell me what it says.
[07:59] <lukas_> ArrenLex: No device detected
[07:59] <lukas_> :)
[08:00] <RagePrblm> Is there a way to install KDE desktop into Ubuntu
[08:00] <elkbuntu> RagePrblm, install the package called kubuntu-desktop
[08:01] <RagePrblm> sooo sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop  ??
[08:01] <elkbuntu> yep
[08:01] <RagePrblm> thank you, Ive never tried kde before, will it let me choose it as a seperate session on the logon screen?
[08:01] <baconbacon> mark__: kill -STOP $$ will kill the running terminal/log out the user
[08:01] <elkbuntu> yes, exactly like that :)
[08:02] <RagePrblm> Im a newbie : im slowly trying to figure this OS out a little bit
[08:02] <elkbuntu> RagePrblm, it will be a few hundred megs of download though, so make sure your resources (harddrive, internet connection) can cope
[08:02] <RagePrblm> elkbuntu:  is there a version of enlightenment avail for ubuntu as well? Ive heard its a very pretty desktop too
[08:03] <mark__> thats strange why would it have that in a terminal for no reason after a reboot? I just pressed the up cursor key in a terminal and got that
[08:03] <chaos> killgore, you trying to play cs or css?
[08:03] <lukas_> ArrenLex: do u have any more idea ?
[08:03] <Killgore> chaos: cs
[08:03] <elkbuntu> RagePrblm, enlightnment is in the repos, but a. afaik it does not yet come as a blah-desktop package, and b. ive never installed it so i dont know what will be involved
[08:03] <lukas_> or i switch back to radeon
[08:03] <Killgore> 1.6
[08:04] <RagePrblm> Okay thanks elkbuntu
[08:04] <chaos> you should have it running in 20 mins (19 mins to download) ;)
[08:04] <RagePrblm> chaos can you actually run CS Source in linux?
[08:04] <lukas_> elkbuntu: u can try SoulofSeer repo on ubuntuforum
[08:04] <lukas_> i have try apt-get and it works fone
[08:04] <lukas_> s/fone/fine
[08:04] <elkbuntu> lukas_, care to guide RagePrblm then?
[08:04] <chaos> Rage, yes, you can use Cedega, or you can do a lot of configuring and debugging and tweaking of wine to run it free
[08:05] <lukas_> elkbuntu: i dont dare man
[08:05] <lukas_> :D
[08:05] <RagePrblm> I didnt know you could run that in linux
[08:05] <Killgore> chaos: what was that guide again
[08:05] <elkbuntu> lukas_, lol, fair enough. thanks for the tip though
[08:05] <elkbuntu> !enlightenment
[08:05] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[08:05] <elkbuntu> well that's useless ubotu :P
[08:05] <chaos> I'm going to estimate in 2 months Wine will completely support counter-strike: source, however people have been able to run it with liveable performance
[08:05] <RagePrblm> niiiice
[08:06] <lukas_> i'm trying to build Pubuntu - Pekwm - Ubuntu
[08:06] <chaos> best steam/cs/wine guide I've seen: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Steam&back=HOWTO+INDEX+Wine+Games
[08:06] <lukas_> ;)
[08:06] <chaos> !intelligence
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intelligence - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <chaos> pwned
[08:06] <RagePrblm> annnd thats a bookmark
[08:06] <rak_> does anyone know of a video player plugin for amarok?
[08:07] <chaos> rak, I use totem xine
[08:07] <chaos> err.. no totem gstreamer
[08:07] <spiderworm> !dvd
[08:07] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:08] <rak_> chaos, is that a different program or does it interface somehow with amarok
[08:08] <AbortD> is there a program in ubuntu kinda like windows netstat?
[08:08] <chaos> I couldn't get Pirates of the Caribbean to play on Linux
[08:08] <chaos> I don't know what amarok is
[08:08] <AbortD> you using wine chaos?
[08:08] <rak_> ohh
[08:09] <chaos> I use totem-gstreamer(the player), w32codecs, and all the gstreamer plugins
[08:09] <chaos> it plays all my video
[08:09] <AbortD> oh
[08:09] <AbortD> video
[08:09] <chaos> Abort, yes I use wine to play counter-strike
[08:09] <chaos> I also tried ventrilo, but it doesn't have enough hardware support
[08:09] <kraut> moin
[08:09] <rak_> oh yeah i'm using that and vlc now for my videos but amarok is so awesome for music and podcasts that i was hoping i could use it as my default player
[08:10] <rak_> i see
[08:10] <chaos> ah, sorry rak, haven't looked into it
[08:10] <rak_> no prob
[08:10] <chaos> been messing around with wine ;)
[08:10] <rak_> thanks though
[08:10] <Killgore> rak_: i dont think amarok plays videos
[08:10] <yaniv> can anyone tell me - if linux-686 shows up as obsolete in edgy, does that mean that you don't need it to speed up your system anymore?
[08:10] <Lam_> totem-gstreamer vs totem-xine.  what and why?
[08:11] <chaos> xine's interface was buggy for me
[08:11] <JoseStefan> yaniv, #ubuntu+1
[08:11] <chaos> that was the only difference
[08:11] <yaniv> thanks
[08:11] <richiefrich> is there a ppc liveCD  ?
[08:11] <richiefrich> !ppc
[08:11] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[08:11] <chaos> gstreamer worked perfectly after installing a whole bunch of codecs
[08:11] <Killgore> gstreamer and xine are the backends for playing video and audio
[08:11] <richiefrich> !ppc liveCD
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ppc liveCD - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <JoseStefan> richiefrich, yes
[08:12] <Killgore> man i saw the coolest thing
[08:12] <Killgore> steam on OSX running flawlesly really
[08:12] <Killgore> 1.6 was good as well
[08:12] <Lam_> i'm using xine, but i don't really know the full advantages/disadvantages of either to know why
[08:12] <chaos> I hate OSX
[08:12] <richiefrich> JoseStefan kowl.. has all the formating tools for HFS+ ?
[08:12] <chaos> it's slow
[08:12] <Killgore> well xine should be fine
[08:12] <JoseStefan> richiefrich, dont know, never used it
[08:12] <richiefrich> ok man ty
[08:13] <chaos> if you use it and it works, stick with xine. there is no reason to switch to gstreamer
[08:13] <Lam_> when switching audio devices, totem/rythembox doesn't register the new audio device until you restart your computer. this is pretty annoying when switching between speakers and headset
[08:13] <RagePrblm> When people talk about X, do they mean X11 or X Org or Xfree 86 or what?
[08:14] <Lam_> is there a terminal command to alliviate that problem?
[08:14] <chaos> don't know linux that well, sorry
[08:14] <Killgore> as if it is
[08:14] <Killgore> slow for what?
[08:14] <Killgore> k i have steam pwnage now chaos
[08:14] <Killgore> X is the thing you are looking at
[08:14] <Killgore> Lam_: switching how?
[08:14] <chaos> ctrl+alt+bkspace?
[08:14] <chaos> would that even matter?
[08:14] <Killgore> X11 is the base i think, and then X Org and Xfree 86 are different implementations
[08:14] <RagePrblm> oh
[08:14] <Lam_> Killgore: System >> Preferences >> Sound Properties
[08:15] <eagle> hi how do i install free java?
[08:15] <Lam_> X = X server.  X11 is just the current version as i know of
[08:15] <RagePrblm> oh
[08:15] <chaos> killgore, try 1.6
[08:15] <Killgore> Lam_: nothing in there about headphones, just whihc sound card
[08:16] <RagePrblm> Im installing Kubuntu-desktop - the screen is asking me what the desired default display manager should be, gdm or kdm
[08:16] <Killgore> chaos: im installing Half-Life 1 atm so ill try and get that running first
[08:16] <RagePrblm> anybody know?
[08:16] <Killgore> kdm
[08:16] <Killgore> well
[08:16] <Lam_> oh.  my headset has it's own internal sound card that allows recognition without the need for a sound device present.  it solves compatibility problems
[08:16] <RagePrblm> okay does it matter right now that Im using xgl/compiz
[08:16] <Killgore> if thats what you want to use
[08:16] <Killgore> Lam_: sounds like its causing compatibility problems :P
[08:16] <RagePrblm> Its not going to screw anything up is it? I have compiz selectable as a seperate session from gnome
[08:16] <Killgore> RagePrblm: well
[08:16] <chaos> killgore, I aggree
[08:17] <Killgore> RagePrblm: all it means is that you will be able to boot xgl, kde, or gnome
[08:17] <RagePrblm> ok as long as it gives me the options in the sessions button on logon im happy
[08:17] <Lam_> Xgl is just X server with an OpenGL overlay to allow 3D hardware acceleration for compatible window managers, e.g.: compiz
[08:17] <RagePrblm> oh
[08:17] <Killgore> RagePrblm: yeah it should
[08:18] <chaos> I had originally installed linux to tear it apart, see how long it took to break itself. It didn't and I've never booted windows since
[08:18] <RagePrblm> this os has a tough learning curve :)
[08:18] <Lam_> you still need gnome or kde to run xgl because gnome/kde are desktop managers
[08:18] <Lam_> xgl is a backend server
[08:18] <Killgore> chaos: then try installing xgl on an ati system
[08:18] <Lam_> that'd probably wouldn't be a smart move. :P
[08:18] <RagePrblm> killgore thats what im running
[08:18] <Lam_> xgl/compiz doesn't function too well with ati systems
[08:18] <chaos> I'm pro-nvidia
[08:18] <Killgore> nice
[08:18] <Lam_> it's possible but it works
[08:18] <Killgore> i was
[08:18] <Lam_> in other ways
[08:19] <Killgore> my latest card is ati
[08:19] <Killgore> im going back to nvidia for my next system tho
[08:19] <chaos> I have 7 geforce-class video cards XD
[08:19] <npodges> lam_ that's not entirely true
[08:19] <npodges> nvidia is preferrable
[08:19] <RagePrblm> Id like a 7800GS myself
[08:19] <Lam_> i like xgl/compiz, but it was a little buggy for my tastes at the moment, so i went back to x/metacity
[08:19] <Squatch> Anyone know a good walk-through off the top of their head for getting Xgl/Compiz up and running?  I was just trying to look that information up as you started talking about it...
[08:19] <npodges> but ATI wokrs too
[08:19] <myatthu> !xgl
[08:19] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:19] <Killgore> is compiz the window manager?
[08:19] <RagePrblm> squatch I have a good bookmark
[08:19] <Lam_> yeah. it's not entirely true, but xgl/compiz does favor nvidia slightly more because nvidia has better driver support for linux
[08:19] <chaos> killgore, surprised how well steam runs?
[08:20] <Squatch> Cool, thanks guys.
[08:20] <RagePrblm> Squatch: Try this  http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=389
[08:20] <Lam_> compiz is the window manager
[08:20] <Killgore> chaos: yeah it runs pretty nice
[08:20] <Killgore> chaos: i just hope installing stuff wont kill it like last time
[08:20] <RagePrblm> This is what Vista should have been
[08:20] <JoseStefan> and what vista will never be
[08:21] <RagePrblm> True
[08:21] <chaos> i actually didn't do a clean install, which is probably why I can't launch css. I just mounted /dev/sda1 to /mnt/Winbloze and copied the steam folder : /
[08:21] <RagePrblm> I have the RC1 of it, and well its just a souped up XP, with more hogging of my resources
[08:21] <Killgore> chaos: is there anyway to make it so that it doesnt open in winedesktop? or is that how wine works
[08:21] <WinterWeaver> Hey guys ^_^
[08:21] <JoseStefan> RagePrblm, we have to put those resources to use
[08:21] <chaos> probably, but I haven't a clue
[08:21] <RagePrblm> lol
[08:21] <WinterWeaver> I have a networking question
[08:22] <JoseStefan> that's the motto
[08:22] <chaos> I tend to leave things alone when the start working
[08:22] <Killgore> JoseStefan: vista will never be as clean as linux
[08:22] <Killgore> oh and just remember
[08:22] <chaos> they*
[08:22] <Killgore> linux is communism
[08:22] <chaos> Vista will never be clean.
[08:22] <Parisi> RagePrblm,  I am waiting for the final release for a better judgement, i wouldnt go far calling that a RC.
[08:22] <RagePrblm> Parisi:  MS is calling it RC1
[08:22] <RagePrblm> I may as well, Im not a programmer/coder so I dont know
[08:22] <Parisi> More like Beta, i would think :0
[08:23] <Killgore> well it might be a good os if it wasnt based on xp which is based on 2000 whihc is based on 98 which is based on 95
[08:23] <RagePrblm> Well ive tried the betas
[08:23] <RagePrblm> it used 600 MB of ram doing nothing
[08:23] <WinterWeaver> I just want to know... I can copy files to my friends PC (Samba Network), but when I copy files from his PC, the connection times out ?
[08:23] <Parisi> IT was a total resource hog on my p 1.7 512 ram.
[08:23] <RagePrblm> the RC1 uses 400 MB of ram, doing nothing. Its better but still lol
[08:23] <chaos> killgore, the XP and 2000 versions run a different kernel
[08:23] <chaos> use a different fs
[08:23] <Madpilot> Folks, discussion of Vista can move to #ubuntu-offtopic or ##windows, please
[08:23] <Killgore> i thought they were esentially the same kernel
[08:23] <Parisi> It was quite unbearable.
[08:23] <Killgore> ok off-topic = off
[08:23] <chaos> try playing source on '98
[08:24] <Killgore> lol
[08:24] <Parisi> Can somebody guide me to an easy guide to xgl ?
[08:24] <chaos> no
[08:24] <Killgore> well does anyone have a fix for my dual-monitor problem then?
[08:24] <Squatch> !xgl
[08:24] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:24] <Parisi> Thanks.
[08:24] <RagePrblm> Parisi you can try http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=389   Its what helped me out
[08:24] <cliffd> can anyone suggest a video/movie player besides mplayer or totem that can play divx and such?
[08:24] <chaos> Killgore, use one monitor
[08:24] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: what exactly is the problem?
[08:24] <Killgore> chaos: sif 2 monitors ftw
[08:24] <cliffd> Killgore: whats your problem? I just got my dual monitors working.
[08:25] <chaos> cliffd, what's wrong with totem?
[08:25] <Parisi> RagePrblm,  I have but the repo's seems down or behaving erraticaly for me.
[08:25] <cliffd> chaos: for some reason it wont let me skip ahead in movies
[08:25] <Killgore> cliffd: well i have both monitors displaying but the second one has another X session on it
[08:25] <Parisi> Ign http://xgl.compiz.info dapper/main Sources
[08:25] <WinterWeaver> Killgore, I just want to know... I can copy files to my friends PC (Samba Network), but when I copy files from his PC, the connection times out ?
[08:25] <RagePrblm> Parisi: well, that bites. I just did it yesterday and it worked - however I used another guide to get my direct rendering working again
[08:25] <chaos> I couldn't stand running 2 monitors. I lose programs enough with just 1 and 4 workspaces
[08:25] <Parisi> I get that errorr as opposed to Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/restricted Packages
[08:25] <cliffd> Killgore: did you set your res to be twice that of our desktops?
[08:25] <ArrenLex> Apologies. My internet died.
[08:25] <RagePrblm> didnt work till around 8 pm tonight, so im pretty new to it
[08:25] <Killgore> cliffd: ahh i remember reading about that
[08:26] <chaos> Killgore, you might need to add an entry in Xorg.conf for that res issue
[08:26] <cliffd> Killgore: you want to paste bin your xorg.conf?
[08:26] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: are they both running XP or one linux or what
[08:26] <chaos> under modes
[08:26] <Killgore> kk
[08:26] <Killgore> uhh
[08:26] <Killgore> cant rem how....
[08:26] <Parisi> RagePrblm, Ya, i am about to boot back into XP anyways, i am taking a break from all the fidling around.
[08:26] <chaos> no
[08:26] <chaos> you can't
[08:26] <RagePrblm> lol I run xp for games too ;)
[08:26] <myesterious> hi all
[08:26] <Squatch> With seperate X-Sessions running on dual monitors, any way to send windows between the two?  I'm guessing not...
[08:26] <WinterWeaver> Killgore, soz... yeah.. the Samba is WinXP, mine is ubuntu
[08:26] <mark__> !cifs
[08:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cifs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:26] <chaos> Parisi, the only way to learn is to do
[08:26] <RagePrblm> I would eventually like to know enough about ubuntu to use it as my primary OS though
[08:27] <mark__> !smbfs
[08:27] <ubotu> smbfs: mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x). In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 369 kB, installed size 888 kB
[08:27] <Parisi> chaos, I know my way around bsd/linux, i just enjoy all OS's :)
[08:27] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: so you can copy from your (ubuntu) to friend (XP) but not the other way around?
[08:27] <chaos> you enjoy windows?
[08:27] <Parisi> My next big purchase will be an Imac most likely.
[08:27] <WinterWeaver> Yup
[08:27] <Parisi> Windows XP is good for the programs i use.
[08:27] <RagePrblm> Fair enough :) Ive been using windoze since I was 10 so its hard to migrate from it, but I like the terminal, its reminiscent of the old dos box :D
[08:28] <RagePrblm> ooo KDE has finished installing
[08:28] <Parisi> Which dont happen to be available for Linux.
[08:28] <chaos> Windows XP is good until you use it for porn. Then it becomes hellishly riddled with unclean malware.
[08:28] <RagePrblm> Weird, it seems like there is everything for linux heh
[08:28] <NoobieDoobieDo> chaos: unless you do it properly.
[08:28] <RagePrblm> Chaos Yeah I agree with you
[08:28] <Parisi> I'v been fidling around with the bsd/linux for a couple of years now, so i am pretty confortable with either.
[08:28] <chaos> there is no proper way when hormones are involved
[08:29] <NoobieDoobieDo> chaos: you gotta do it the smart way :)
[08:29] <chaos> the only proper way is the easiest way
[08:29] <Killgore> cliffd: my xorg: http://pastebin.com/791784
[08:29] <Parisi> RagePrblm,  There is a clone for everything, true.
[08:29] <NoobieDoobieDo> Almost everything.
[08:29] <RagePrblm> Im still trying to learn basic things Parisi, like installing video card drivers, its such a PITA in linux! Why! lol
[08:29] <chaos> it's easy with synaptic
[08:29] <Parisi> RagePrblm,  But sometimes theres nothing like the real deal.
[08:29] <RagePrblm> Chaos I used it and it just didnt do it right
[08:30] <RagePrblm> Parisi i know whatcha mean
[08:30] <Parisi> CubaseSX, Itunes, etc, etc.
[08:30] <Parisi> not much the end user can do.
[08:30] <RagePrblm> GIMP may indeed be fantastic, but Ill still use Photoshop
[08:30] <chaos> WINE runs photoshop
[08:30] <Parisi> Err, Photoshop is the standard.
[08:30] <Killgore> RagePrblm: installing drivers isnt that hard
[08:30] <Parisi> True that.
[08:30] <RagePrblm> chaos how well?
[08:30] <Killgore> RagePrblm: there are thousands of gudies
[08:30] <chaos> Rage, wine is incredibly fast
[08:30] <RagePrblm> Killgore Yeah I finally found one that worked :)
[08:30] <we2by> can any one open ubuntuforums.org??/
[08:31] <Parisi> I am talking about stuff like Cubase and proprietary software.
[08:31] <Killgore> RagePrblm: ahh its a good feeling
[08:31] <RagePrblm> chaos oh I thought it would be slow like... well emulated like slow
[08:31] <RagePrblm> I like good feelings
[08:31] <chaos> I'm planning on porting my winbloze photoshop 8 install over to wine on the weekend
[08:31] <Killgore> does anyone know of a good vnc viewer program? the terminal server that came with ubuntu is a pos
[08:31] <chaos> Wine Is Not and Emulatore
[08:31] <chaos> gawd
[08:31] <RagePrblm> Takes a whole weekend to do that?
[08:31] <Parisi> I would probably enjoy OSX if i had the $$$ for it.
[08:31] <chaos> nope, it takes sanity and concenctration
[08:31] <Squatch> Can anyone recommend a good SVN application?  Preferably with some sort of shell integration (Like Tortoise SVN for Windoze)?
[08:31] <chaos> I don't have either at this time
[08:31] <RagePrblm> neither do I
[08:31] <Gevaudan82> Killgore: why a pos? vino works good for restoring the same session which is available locally
[08:31] <RagePrblm> My friend loves his Mac OS
[08:32] <RagePrblm> I hate it
[08:32] <chaos> Rage, you should install linux on his apple
[08:32] <Parisi> OSX is def tastier than XP
[08:32] <chaos> when he's not looking
[08:32] <RagePrblm> or at least put on a livecd and scare him
[08:32] <Killgore> Gevaudan82: well if i vnc to my laptop and scroll the window to look at the taskbar i cant scroll back up again :S
[08:32] <Parisi> Uts def more intuitive than Linux, thats for sure.
[08:32] <Gevaudan82> squath: i use viewvnc for web access...works fine...for everything else i rely on my IDE, namely Eclipse\
[08:32] <Parisi> Its*
[08:32] <RagePrblm> true
[08:33] <chaos> yeah, "surprise, I fixed your laptop... had to do a reformat and I couldn't find your OSX cd!"
[08:33] <RagePrblm> lol hed flip right out
[08:33] <RagePrblm> which would entertain me for hours
[08:33] <Parisi> Learning curve from XP to OSX was a piece of cake compared to XP to a Slackware or Redhat.
[08:33] <chaos> I'd do it
[08:33] <Killgore> Gevaudan82: so what client do you use?
[08:33] <Gevaudan82> Killgore: sounds like a deeper issue...sorry i won't be of much help in this regard...i actually prefer vino rather than tightvncserver or vncserver-4
[08:33] <we2by> os x is slow as hell on my macbook while ubuntu run smoothly!
[08:33] <we2by> :)
[08:33] <Killgore> Gevaudan82: is there a more linux-windows compatible server? on the win side
[08:33] <RagePrblm> Parisi:  he was using xp before he bought his powerbook pro or whatever so hes learned his osx pretty well
[08:33] <Gevaudan82> Killgore: on windows i use tightvnc as my client
[08:34] <Squatch> Gevaudan82: Cool, thanks.
[08:34] <chaos> or even better, install windows on it
[08:34] <RagePrblm> We did
[08:34] <Parisi> I wonder if anyone else is having issued with http://www.beerorkid.com dapper/main Packages repos tonight?
[08:34] <RagePrblm> it ran faster than osx
[08:34] <chaos> windows 95
[08:34] <chaos> D:
[08:34] <RagePrblm> lol
[08:34] <RagePrblm> 3.11 for networks
[08:34] <rak_> anyone have any advice as to the best rss-torrent client?
[08:34] <Parisi> I tried OSX x86 on my Intel 1.7
[08:34] <chaos> yeah, that is kinda sad.... apples run Winbloze better than OSX
[08:34] <RagePrblm> i think he actually had 2.x or 1.x on his 80286
[08:34] <Parisi> It was a wierd feeling, for sure.
[08:34] <RagePrblm> Parisi how did you do that
[08:35] <RagePrblm> pearpc?
[08:35] <Squatch> I'm new to Linux, so I'm looking around, trying to find replacements for apps I use under Windows...  Is asking these questions in this channel considered off-topic?
[08:35] <Killgore> nah not really
[08:35] <Davo_Dinkum> probably not
[08:35] <RagePrblm> Squatch:  i dont think so
[08:35] <chaos> nope
[08:35] <chaos> that's pretty much all we do here
[08:35] <Parisi> RagePrblm, Developer hacked version that was ported to Intel for the acual macs.
[08:35] <Davo_Dinkum> Squatch: which apps?
[08:35] <chaos> ownt
[08:35] <Gevaudan82> Squath: just ask your question...forever and always
[08:35] <chaos> !ask
[08:35] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:35] <Parisi> It runs on stadard PC hardware.
[08:35] <RagePrblm> No waaaay! Thats cool. So it wouldnt work on my AMD then huh
[08:35] <Squatch> lol
[08:35] <Parisi> RagePrblm, Actually ran quite OK.
[08:35] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: you still here?
[08:36] <cliffd> any alternates to mplayer and totem?
[08:36] <WinterWeaver> Killgore, yeah ^_^
[08:36] <Parisi> RagePrblm, Everything was there.
[08:36] <RagePrblm> man i wish my cat would just die already
[08:36] <Milchmann> cliffd, vlc?
[08:36] <Gevaudan82> cliffd: what's wrong w/ mplayer?
[08:36] <chaos> rage, what?
[08:36] <Parisi> VLC is Good.
[08:36] <Parisi> Nice skins too.
[08:36] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: so you can copy from your (ubuntu) to friend (XP) but not the other way around?
[08:36] <cliffd> Gevaudan82: nothing is wrong with it, I just want to look at other programs
[08:36] <WinterWeaver> Killgore, yes
[08:36] <RagePrblm> shes 18 years old, senile, crazy, pukes and meows all day
[08:36] <cliffd> Milchmann: ill try vlc now
[08:36] <RagePrblm> I keep telling her to goto the light
[08:36] <Parisi> RagePrblm,  Donate it to me.
[08:37] <RagePrblm> lol if she lives for another month she can legally drink
[08:37] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: can you browse the ubuntu pc from the windows one?
[08:37] <Parisi> : )
[08:37] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: ie look at its files?
[08:37] <rak_> what torrent programs does everyone use?
[08:37] <WinterWeaver> we have not tried that yet
[08:37] <chaos> tornado
[08:37] <RagePrblm> Hey Parisi is there a pakckage I can download for ubuntu of enlightenment
[08:37] <WinterWeaver> Killgore, brb... I'm gonna try that quick
[08:37] <Milchmann> rak_ i use azureus
[08:37] <Killgore> rak_: lol utorrent
[08:37] <myatthu> rak_, azureus
[08:37] <Davo_Dinkum> rak_ whatever my distro installs
[08:38] <Parisi> I am going back to XP, the repositories are broke tonight for Compiz, to bad.
[08:38] <Killgore> azureus is poo its so bloated, but it does have some cool features
[08:38] <Parisi> Too bad :/
[08:38] <rak_> i get weird problems with azureus
[08:38] <RagePrblm> utorrent forever :D
[08:38] <chaos> I WINE bittorrent... GG KTHXBAI try again
[08:38] <RagePrblm> lol
[08:38] <Killgore> cliffd: did you get that pastebin?
[08:38] <rak_> like some javascrip error
[08:38] <Parisi> RagePrblm,  It should be on universe repos most likely.
[08:38] <Gevaudan82> i'm not a big torrenter, but ubuntu's bittorrent clientw works fine for me
[08:38] <Squatch> RagePrblm: Heck yes! uTorrent FTW!
[08:38] <rak_> rageprblm; do you use utorrent on ubuntu?
[08:38] <RagePrblm> I dont know how to browse those or anything do you know the command from the terminal?
[08:38] <chaos> ssh 192.168.0.111
[08:38] <cliffd> Killgore: no, I was afk for a second can you msg it to me
[08:39] <Killgore> i want something like utorrent for pc, and xtorrent for mac to be made for ubuntu
[08:39] <RagePrblm> rak_:  I havent installed it yet
[08:39] <Killgore> cliffd: http://pastebin.com/791784
[08:39] <Parisi> RagePrblm,  Trye synaptic?
[08:39] <chaos> killgore, you can probably wine utorrent
[08:39] <Osiris_1> Hi im trying to download somthing via wget but the URL has brackets () in?
[08:39] <RagePrblm> Squatch:  what does ftw mean? thats like the last acronym Ive never been about to figure out
[08:39] <Squatch> RagePrblm: For The Win
[08:39] <RagePrblm> Parisi Im dumb
[08:39] <Parisi> RagePrblm,  from terminal: apt-get install synaptic
[08:39] <RagePrblm> give me a minute
[08:39] <TeePOG> morning
[08:39] <Parisi> RagePrblm,  from terminal: then  synaptic
[08:39] <chaos> TeePOG, is it?
[08:39] <RagePrblm> ohhh thx Squatch i always thought it might be that, wasnt sure
[08:39] <cliffd> Killgore: loading..... ill look when it loads.
[08:40] <detectiveinspekt> I can no longer open the gnome system monitor says "failed to execute child process"
[08:40] <RagePrblm> Parisi:  I think I have synaptic package manager
[08:40] <Killgore> chaos: yeah i can but i use my laptop for downloading torrents and its win anyway
[08:40] <Squatch> RagePrblm: Heh, np =)
[08:40] <chaos> bah, sleep is for the weak, a complete waste of time
[08:40] <Parisi> If i show you my gnome desktop you will think i am running osx panther.
[08:40] <Squatch> Plenty of time to sleep when you're dead!!!!
[08:40] <chaos> amen
[08:40] <Killgore> if i show you mine....
[08:40] <TeePOG> morning chaos
[08:40] <chaos> I'll show you my badge
[08:40] <Killgore> Parisi: did u follow that guide of digg?
[08:40] <RagePrblm> Parisi what category on the left would E be under?
[08:41] <Parisi> Killgore, Def not, that was by far the lamest guide, half broke too.
[08:41] <rak_> has anyone WINEd utorrent in here, if so is it buggy? i've never used wine before, is it generally simple to implement?
[08:41] <Osiris_1> Hi im trying to download somthing via wget but the URL has brackets () in?
[08:41] <cliffd> Killgore: what you need to do is find out the combined res for both your monitors and add it to the modes you will be using
[08:41] <Killgore> Parisi: well it worked fine for me up until the part about getting a dock
[08:41] <chaos> If I randomly start spamming the channel please kick me quickly... I'll probably just be flailing on my keyboard having a seizure from sleep deprivation
[08:41] <myatthu> Osiris_1, the url is ?
[08:41] <WinterWeaver> Killgore, hmmm... I'm a bit of a linux newb, I have no Idea how to browse my Linux box from my friends XP
[08:41] <Killgore> cliffd: in screen, monitor or devices?
[08:41] <Davo_Dinkum> chaos: go to bed
[08:41] <Parisi> Killgore, I just started looking at gnome art and gnome look and picked the best match and combined it with Compiz t-ish theme and OSX actual wallpaper + gdesklet botton icon theme.
[08:41] <cliffd> Killgore: Screen
[08:42] <WinterWeaver> Killgore, I can't see them
[08:42] <RagePrblm> WinterWeaver: I have no idea how to browse my box from my pc @ home
[08:42] <RagePrblm> parisi whats gdesklet is it awesome and should I get it
[08:42] <chaos> Davo_Dinkum, sleep isn't important when you have large amounts of caffeine available to you
[08:42] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: what is your linux box called? if you know go to the windows pc and open up my computer and at the top type \\[computer-name] 
[08:42] <cliffd> Killgore: im checking my search history to find you the link that helped me set it up
[08:42] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: eg
[08:42] <yusufm> hi
[08:42] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: \\megatron
[08:42] <WinterWeaver> kk 1sec
[08:43] <Killgore> Parisi: oh ur runnig compiz, im on metacity
[08:43] <chaos> oh noes, setting up samba?
[08:43] <Killgore> ya
[08:43] <Parisi> RagePrblm, search for enlightment if thats what you are looking for, i never really used that except for a few occasions.
[08:43] <Killgore> samba woo
[08:43] <yusufm> i'm trying to view the screencast here: http://cakephp.org/screencasts/view/5 which seems to be a quicktime video, but it says plug not installed in firefox
[08:43] <RagePrblm> oh okie dokie
[08:43] <chaos> I've done a lot of work with samba
[08:43] <Parisi> Killgore, Gotta have the cool effects :)
[08:43] <Killgore> Parisi: yeah ati ftl tho
[08:44] <Parisi> Killgore, Sorta slow on my awful radoen 9200 but works i guess.
[08:44] <yusufm> I have installed easyubuntu, manually installed many other libs that I thoguh may work, but nothing seemed to work
[08:44] <Parisi> I almost bought a Nvidia just for that today.
[08:44] <rak_> hey killgore, is that a reference to kilgore trout or does it just mean kill Gore
[08:44] <Parisi> But couldnt justify the $80 tag.
[08:44] <Killgore> chaos: if i open half life from the wine desktop will it stay in that desktop?
[08:44] <yusufm> where do I get the correct plugin?
[08:44] <chaos> insert windows xp disc and reboot
[08:44] <Killgore> Parisi: so you got xgl or just compiz working under ati?
[08:44] <RagePrblm> Parisi what does Gdesklet do? Is it like the widgets for osx?
[08:44] <chaos> it should run on its own
[08:45] <Killgore> rak_: no its from a tom clancy book, rainbow 6
[08:45] <Parisi> Killgore, Compiz according to that guide.
[08:45] <chaos> sweet jebus
[08:45] <Parisi> Aw!
[08:45] <chaos> zomg!
[08:45] <Parisi> Net split!
[08:45] <clearzen> My updates are broken because of a file called psad. It's for port scanning attack defense. Can anyone tell me how to fix this error :  error brokencount > 0
[08:45] <RagePrblm> noooooooooooooooo
[08:45] <Parisi> Killgore, Compiz according to that guide.
[08:45] <DBO> whats up with sterling today
[08:45] <Squatch> wth???
[08:45] <cliffd> Killgore: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors
[08:45] <ghostfreeman> what happened to xscreensaver?
[08:45] <Killgore> rak_: there is a doctor called Dr. Killgore in it
[08:45] <RagePrblm> killgore reminds me of Fulgore from Killer Instinct
[08:46] <chaos> I played that
[08:46] <yusufm> how do I play quicktime movie in firfox?
[08:46] <RagePrblm> I am a god at KI2
[08:46] <chaos> i was pretty pwnsauce at it
[08:46] <Killgore> RagePrblm: yeah my brother goes as Fulgore sometimes
[08:46] <chaos> yus, you can't
[08:46] <yusufm> it says no plugin installed
[08:46] <Killgore> cliffd: did you use xinerama?
[08:46] <ghostfreeman> KI == button mashing
[08:46] <RagePrblm> Great game
[08:46] <RagePrblm> ghost nonono tekken was mashing
[08:46] <cliffd> Killgore: no
[08:46] <Killgore> cliffd: kk
[08:46] <RagePrblm> KI actually had a system of openers, linkers, and finishers
[08:46] <cliffd> Killgore: that was just a helper link, im still looking for the exact one I found
[08:46] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: any luck?
[08:47] <Parisi> I still cant believe Apple wont port Itunes for Linux/BSD.
[08:47] <ghostfreeman> Killgore sounds an awfully lot like my last name
[08:47] <Squatch> KI == Pattern Button Mashing, worked like crazy for me lol.
[08:47] <RagePrblm> lol
[08:47] <Killgore> ghostfreeman: which is....
[08:47] <Parisi> Its pure BS
[08:47] <yusufm> choas, why not?
[08:47] <rak_> Killgore: interesting, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilgore_Trout
[08:47] <Squatch> Not so much in tekken though >_<
[08:47] <clearzen> I need to fix a broken updater. It keeps giving me this error error brokencount > 0
[08:47] <ghostfreeman> Kilgore, only one l
[08:47] <Killgore> lol
[08:47] <Squatch> Actually had to LEARN something there.
[08:47] <WinterWeaver> Killgore, not sure
[08:47] <chaos> yusufm, ask them, they're the ones making bad software for money
[08:47] <chalcedony> Squatch: for shame
[08:47] <WinterWeaver> Killgore, 1 sec
[08:47] <Squatch> chalcedony: bwahaha
[08:48] <chaos> though I have heard some people got some internet media plugins to work with WINE
[08:48] <chaos> oh jeez, here's the wine again
[08:48] <Squatch> Alright, I'm chatting here using gaim, what's a better IRC client?  (Getting sick of messages with my name in them not being highlighted and such...)
[08:48] <Killgore> wine
[08:48] <Killgore> yay
[08:48] <Killgore> xchat
[08:48] <ghostfreeman> irssi
[08:48] <Killgore> Squatch: xchat is good
[08:48] <WinterWeaver> Killgore, I noticed I don't have some modules installed, when trying to share a folder... so I'm installing them quick... to see if that works
[08:48] <Davo_Dinkum> Squatch: irssi
[08:48] <Squatch> Cool, thanks.
[08:48] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: yes that would help a lot in fact you need them
[08:48] <myesterious> hi
[08:48] <nrdb_> My boss has a skype connection running on ubuntu, the problem is a bad echo, everthing he says is echoed back 3-4 seconds latter. We are both using headsets. :( can anyone help?
[08:49] <Parisi> mirc + wine, haha
[08:49] <Squatch> Killgore: It in Synaptic?  (xchat)
[08:49] <chaos> Parisi, good idea
[08:49] <Killgore> Squatch: yeah i think so
[08:49] <chaos> im going to port mIRC, Foobar2000, and Photoshop CS 8
[08:49] <ghostfreeman> what are the shortcut keys for compiz
[08:49] <Parisi> chaos, been there done that, i still prefer Xchat under linux however :0
[08:49] <Killgore> mirc is pretty lame compared to xchat imo
[08:49] <ghostfreeman> mirc is awesome on Windows
[08:49] <chaos> i just like the scripting in mirc
[08:50] <ghostfreeman> but i'm tired of waiting for NNScript to fix all my problems with it
[08:50] <Madpilot> chaos, I'm pretty sure XChat can do mirc scripting
[08:50] <chaos> O RLY?
[08:50] <chalcedony> Madpilot: it does it differently
[08:50] <Killgore> gah 77% of HL1 done!!!
[08:50] <Killgore> hurry the funk up
[08:50] <ghostfreeman> I've been using HydraIRC in Windows. its nice but its a half-assed effort
[08:50] <Parisi> ok, tired of waiting to get compiz working tonight, tomorrow is another day, brb.
[08:50] <RagePrblm> I dunno man, i love mIRC
[08:50] <chaos> killgore, you need moar intarnets
[08:50] <ghostfreeman> he needs more tubes
[08:50] <chaos> LOL
[08:51] <RagePrblm> I need more gigs!
[08:51] <chaos> who else got freeman's comment?
[08:51] <Killgore> chaos: i have moar intranarts but the torrentz are cloggin my tubes
[08:51] <ghostfreeman> OUR TUBES
[08:51] <Killgore> the TUBES!!!!
[08:51] <Osiris_1> Hi im trying to download somthing via wget but the URL has brackets () in?
[08:51] <chaos> oh noes! you need a dump truck to put the torrents in so they wont clog your tubes... I suggest a linux fileserver
[08:51] <Killgore> ok everyone in here gtfo my tubes cos i want to download something
[08:52] <ghostfreeman> () aren't legit URL characters
[08:52] <RagePrblm> Ill bbl guys, peace out: thanks for all the help gonna try out some new desktops
[08:52] <chaos> gl hf
[08:52] <cliffd> Ive got a big truck, its faster then tubes
[08:52] <Killgore> Osiris_1: just try them without the quotes, or put the link in here
[08:52] <nrdb_> Osiris_1: have you tried to quote "" the URL
[08:52] <chaos> no wai!
[08:52] <Gevaudan82> Killgore: worst question ever
[08:52] <JoseStefan> i think ( ) = %28 %29 respectivly (for HTTP)
[08:52] <Killgore> Gevaudan82: what?
[08:52] <chaos> what would happen if I just dumped something on my tubes?
[08:53] <Killgore> you would need some lotto balls to unclog the
[08:53] <Killgore> m
[08:53] <JoseStefan> err, for URLs
[08:53] <Davo_Dinkum> or a horse
[08:53] <Killgore> lol
[08:53] <chaos> no Davo
[08:53] <chaos> not a horse
[08:55] <Killgore> mmm so close 95%
[08:55] <Killgore> it better run chaos or
[08:55] <ghostfreeman> ok so I got a problem
[08:56] <ghostfreeman> When I boot up my system, it takes me to the Grub command line
[08:56] <ghostfreeman> not the menu. How do I fix this?
[08:56] <midgetg0at> Hey guys, trying to play an avi file w/ ac3 audio. when i open it in mplayer i get the error "Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound." Also, when i go to menu->system->pref->sound i cant hear any of those sounds no matter what sound device i select (3 are listed) .... anyone have an idea?
[08:56] <Killgore> midgetg0at: what devices are listed
[08:56] <WinterWeaver> >.<
[08:56] <Killgore> ghostfreeman: i think that is an option in menu.lst
[08:56] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: didnt work?
[08:57] <midgetg0at> NVidia CK804, AK5370, MPU-401 UART
[08:57] <ghostfreeman> let me open it up real fast
[08:57] <WinterWeaver> Killgore, not sure... I have shared a drive... and the XP box can see my LinBox, but I cant actually access it...
[08:57] <WinterWeaver> Killgore, it's asking for a user and pass....
[08:57] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: ok too easy
[08:57] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: gimme a sec
[08:57] <ashik> Please list out some editor
[08:58] <Stormx2> Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org-core_2.0.3-4ubuntu2_i386.deb <--------- meh?
[08:58] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: nano /etc/samba/smb.conf
[08:58] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: and you want to look for an option called
[08:59] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: Security = user
[08:59] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: change it too
[08:59] <ghostfreeman> in grub
[08:59] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: Security = share
[08:59] <ghostfreeman> lines with a # are comments like those with ## right
[08:59] <Killgore> ghostfreeman: yep
[08:59] <ghostfreeman> making sure
[08:59] <tripppy> im using firestarter - it starts with an unknown error. it is connecting  to internal PC's. not sharing internet.
[09:00] <midgetg0at> any idea on the sound?
[09:00] <Killgore> chaos: how do you launch cs1.6?
[09:00] <myesterious> I have set Alt+Shift for group switching and cannot press Left(Alt+Shift) but Right(Alt+Shift) can , How to can i use left ?
[09:01] <Killgore> midgetg0at: well you should proly use the Nvidia one
[09:01] <midgetg0at> you're right.
[09:01] <Killgore> midgetg0at: if your speakers are plugged into the motherboard
[09:01] <ashik> Please list some editor other than gedit
[09:01] <midgetg0at> thats the one w/ all the audio stuff.
[09:01] <midgetg0at> :)
[09:01] <boink> hello
[09:01] <WinterWeaver> Killgore, kk.... done... I had to sudo the command though :P.... do I need to restart?
[09:01] <Killgore> ashik: nano, vi,
[09:01] <ghostfreeman> Where do I go to download/build the latest 686-smp kernel>
[09:01] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: no
[09:01] <midgetg0at> headphones are hooked up where they should be...but even if they were hooked up wrong - the movie player wouldnt know it, and shouldnt throw that error for that reason.
[09:02] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[09:02] <midgetg0at> and i do have sound through firefox via flash if that is a hint to anyone
[09:03] <Killgore> midgetg0at: what was the error again?
[09:03] <Killgore> midgetg0at: if you tried to watch a movie?
[09:03] <midgetg0at> Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound.
[09:03] <Killgore> chaos, chaos heeerrow?
[09:04] <Killgore> hmm
[09:04] <midgetg0at> yea...thats about where i am.
[09:04] <Killgore> midgetg0at: well im not quite sure tbh
[09:04] <midgetg0at> yea, no worries, i'll try a wonderful reboot.
[09:04] <Killgore> midgetg0at: have u installed a new backend or something, or was it allways liek that
[09:04] <Killgore> booo
[09:04] <Killgore> leave before i press enter
[09:05] <ashik> killgore: few others too please...
[09:05] <Killgore> ashik: emacs
[09:06] <Killgore> ashik: kedit for kde
[09:08] <ashik> gillbore: any one is not working
[09:08] <WinterWeaver> Killgore, hmm... no luck... what user and pass do I need on the XP box? I tried using my UbuBox login... but does not work
[09:09] <Davo_Dinkum> Bye all.
[09:09] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: so you changed it from Security = user to Security = share?
[09:09] <WinterWeaver> yeah
[09:09] <WinterWeaver> lemme double check
[09:10] <WinterWeaver> Killgore, hmmm... there is a semicolon... do I need to remove it ?
[09:10] <WinterWeaver> ;  security = share
[09:10] <ashik> I need to open letsay.po file
[09:11] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: yes
[09:11] <ashik> killgore:please help me
[09:11] <Killgore> ashik: letsay.po huh, and it wont open in other editors?
[09:12] <orphean> What's the username/password for mysql on a fresh install of ubuntu server? root/pw and my username/pw don't seem to work.
[09:13] <ashik> killgore: i cant open it with gedit and not with other editor too..
[09:13] <tripppy> someone is trying to connect to my ubuntu box via SSH
[09:14] <Killgore> ashik: does it give you an error?
[09:14] <ashik> yeah
[09:15] <Killgore> ashik: what is that error?
[09:16] <ashik> killgore:error: cannot open display: (null)
[09:16] <midgetg0at> so the restart apparently worked, but not for "MPlayer Movie Player" but i have it working in Totem 1.4.3. The movie player was the one that was complaining about the audio, Totem just wouldn't make a peep. who knows....but at least i can watch the movie.
[09:16] <midgetg0at> Just wanted to let you know that restarting linux is sometimes necessary ;)
[09:16] <midgetg0at> cya guys. off to my movie.
[09:16] <bjron> is there a simpler way to do 'sed s/foo/bar/ file > tempfile ; mv tempfile file' ?
[09:17] <Killgore> ashik: are you in gnome or the command line
[09:17] <ashik> command line
[09:17] <Killgore> so no desktop?
[09:17] <ashik> sorry i m on gnore
[09:17] <ashik> gnome
[09:18] <WinterWeaver> O.o
[09:18] <WinterWeaver> Killgore: ok... I shared.... and can access... but there are some funny stuff happening now
[09:18] <ubuntu> Hello
[09:19] <ubuntu> Can you guys help me pleae
[09:19] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: yeah?
[09:19] <ubuntu> I am on a live cd
[09:19] <Killgore> ubuntu: thats what we're here for
[09:19] <ubuntu> I need to use a resource which is located on a windows network... is this possible?
[09:19] <orphean> hah there is no password on a default LAMP install for mysql
[09:19] <orphean> hilarious
[09:20] <WinterWeaver> Killgore: I shared one of the folders in my home folder, but when I access the share folder from the xp box, it opens up the Home folder itself...
[09:20] <WinterWeaver> it that ok ?
[09:20] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: if you want to share the home folder then yes
[09:20] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: oh i see
[09:20] <ubuntu> I am using dd command to write file to a partition on this machine, bu the file I want to write is located on other machine(windows)
[09:21] <WinterWeaver> Killgore: not what I wanted ... :((
[09:21] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: hmm weird
[09:21] <ubuntu> killgore?
[09:21] <deep> ubuntu: i know this is possible, but i think you have to install the "lisa-deamon" to reach the windows LAN
[09:21] <Killgore> ubuntu: sorry man no idea how to use dd
[09:22] <ubuntu> I reached the file
[09:22] <ubuntu> Ic an access it using the gui
[09:22] <WinterWeaver> Killgore: the actual share locatoin on my ubuBox actually changed O.o .... to my home folder...
[09:22] <ubuntu> but it is 6 gigabites
[09:22] <deep> ubuntu: The fine on the LAN that is?
[09:22] <deep> file
[09:22] <ubuntu> yes
[09:22] <ubuntu> file is on lan
[09:22] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: ahh that would be it
[09:23] <ubuntu> and I want to use it to write on local hard drive
[09:23] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: you could always make a new folder somewhere on the drive and share that
[09:23] <ubuntu> I can access file via GUI
[09:23] <deep> ubuntu: Mount the local drive too some point and then copy the file?
[09:23] <deep> to*
[09:23] <Keyseir> How should I go about updating my sources file?
[09:24] <ubuntu> mount what drive?
[09:24] <deep> Im on SSH and the connection is a little unstable, thats why i write kinda bad.
[09:24] <deep> ubuntu: The local drive
[09:24] <ubuntu> I have ext3 partition
[09:24] <Farhan> ITS JUST SUDO NO /ETC/APT/SOURCES.LISTN
[09:24] <ubuntu> and rest is unformated
[09:24] <Farhan> OPS
[09:24] <Farhan> LIST
[09:24] <ubuntu> I mounted it but when I try to drag file into it it tells me I have no permission
[09:24] <indigoblu> is there any support for AMD64 Firefox + Flash yet?
[09:24] <ubuntu> I used /mnt  for the mount
[09:24] <Farhan> oh crap. my caps were on
[09:24] <Farhan> oops
[09:25] <Keyseir> sudo no?
[09:25] <Longfield> Hi guys ... anyone knows if software suspend2 is going to be integrated in the forthcoming ubuntu release ? or a place where I could find that information ?
[09:25] <ubuntu> Can local drives be mounted in a LIVE CD?
[09:25] <deep> ubuntu: remount it with you as an owner
[09:25] <WinterWeaver> Killgore: .... something really strange... I made a folder on by desktop, shared that.... but when I open up my "Shared Folders settings", it changes the share path to /home/[myuser] 
[09:25] <Farhan> yeah you can mount local drives
[09:25] <ubuntu> deep: I used sudo
[09:25] <Killgore> WinterWeaver: well anything on your desktop is actually in the home folder
[09:25] <WinterWeaver> hmmmm
[09:26] <boink> the live cd is handy in case of an emergency
[09:26] <deep> ubuntu: first: "cat /etc/passwd | grep ubuntu", there should be a number there, like "999" or "1000"
[09:26] <Keyseir> My sources are old, I'm inquiring as to how I should update them to whatever is new
[09:26] <deep> ubuntu: then, "sudo umount /mnt" and "sudo mount -o UID=<number> /dev/<drive> /mnt"
[09:26] <Farhan> its just sudo mount /dev/hda1 or what ever your partition is, /mnt/hd or something
[09:26] <WinterWeaver> Killgore, but what if I don't want peeps to see all my other files, and only the shared folder ?
[09:26] <Killgore> make a new folder somewhere else
[09:26] <Killgore> i guess
[09:27] <Killgore> u can make folders to share anywhere
[09:27] <Killgore> like /media/sharedfolder
[09:27] <ubuntu> what is uid?
[09:27] <Killgore> user id
[09:27] <Keyseir> How do I find out what the newest sources for my version of ubuntu is?
[09:27] <ubuntu> what would it be?
[09:27] <Farhan> I would personally enable samba. and just add users who i want to have access.
[09:27] <Farhan> Killgore
[09:27] <Killgore> Keyseir: how do you know they are old sources? do you mean the sources.list?
[09:28] <ubuntu> what is my user id?
[09:28] <ubuntu> uid?
[09:28] <deep> ubuntu: do "cat /etc/passwd | grep ubuntu" and you'll se
[09:28] <Killgore> Farhan: i never got users working
[09:28] <deep> see*
[09:28] <Farhan> nah its in the samba smb.conf file
[09:28] <ubuntu> ubuntu:x:999:999:Ubuntu LiveCD user,,,:/home/ubuntu:/bin/bash
[09:28] <Keyseir> Killgore: Yes. I'm asuming my sources.list file is old, because when I run apt-get update I get all kinds of errors. I'm wondering how I can fix this.
[09:28] <ubuntu> which is uid?
[09:28] <Killgore> Keyseir: what kind of errors?
[09:28] <deep> Well, there the same so 999 :)
[09:29] <deep> I think first is UID and second is group id
[09:29] <Farhan> I am running edgy knot 3
[09:29] <Keyseir> Killgore: Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/dists/breezy/non-free/source/Sources.gz  Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file.  '
[09:29] <deep> ubuntu: sry, forgot to write your name
[09:30] <Killgore> Keyseir: yeah they could have changed the server layout
[09:30] <Farhan> can't you do a dist-upgrade?
[09:30] <Keyseir> Killgore: So is there a central way to find out where I should have my sources.list look?
[09:30] <Farhan> and just fix all yoru issues if you get the right stuff?
[09:30] <Killgore> Keyseir: you could use the defualt sources.list that comes with ubuntu
[09:30] <mtholdenss> whens edgy eft coming out? i know in october but could it be any time in october?
[09:31] <ubuntu> this-> /mnt$ sudo mount -o ext3  UID=999hdb2 /dev/hdb2 /mnt  gives error
[09:31] <Keyseir> Killgore: I believe this is the file I had when I got ubuntu, plus some non-free stuff
[09:31] <ubuntu> asks to spesify filesystem
[09:31] <Keyseir> Killgore: Is there a place to look for this default file?
[09:31] <ubuntu> how do I do it correctly?
[09:31] <ubuntu> it's ext3
[09:31] <jazwec> good morning...please, could anybody help me with making my SB Audigy 2 ZS wok?
[09:32] <Killgore> Keyseir: where do you live?
[09:32] <Keyseir> Killgore: What are you wearing?
[09:32] <Keyseir> Killgore: East Coast USA
[09:32] <deep> ubuntu: Its couse you have two args for -o, just use "sudo mount -o UID=999 /dev/hdb2 /mnt"
[09:32] <Farhan> the reason why he asked whare you lie i so he could get the right location for your mirror list. lol
[09:32] <Farhan> live
[09:32] <Farhan> is
[09:33] <deep> ubuntu: i think that works. :)
[09:33] <ubuntu> error message tells me "you must specify filesystem type
[09:33] <Keyseir> Farhan, I'm just overtired and making myself giggle
[09:33] <Killgore> Keyseir: hmm
[09:33] <deep> Umm..
[09:34] <WinterWeaver> Killgore, hmm.... ok so that worked... and both workstations can see each other, share etc.... but unfortunately I'm still unable to copy from the XP box to by LinBox...
[09:34] <ubuntu> and /mnt says it has 456 mb free space
[09:34] <ubuntu> so it is not really mounted
[09:34] <WinterWeaver> Killgore: but I can copy from by linbox to the xpbox
[09:34] <ubuntu> I wount be able to place 6gb file in it
[09:34] <deep> ubuntu: "sudo umount /mnt; sudo mount -t ext3 -o UID=999 /dev/hdb2 /mnt"
[09:35] <ubuntu> does not work
[09:35] <deep> Umm..
[09:35] <Killgore> Keyseir: what distro are you running
[09:36] <ubuntu> will I be able to move file from lan to local partition using live cd?
[09:36] <ubuntu> this is the question.. and how?
[09:36] <deep> ubuntu: Just mount it as you did before then, and do a "sudo -s", will work :)
[09:36] <deep> ubuntu: Youl
[09:36] <deep> Oops
[09:36] <Keyseir> Killgore: How do I check?
[09:36] <Squatch> Hey, anyone know a good, graphical front-end for SVN?
[09:36] <deep> ubuntu: You'll just have to start nautilus as root to copy stuff
[09:37] <ubuntu> how do I launch naut like that?
[09:37] <Milchmann> sudo nautilus
[09:37] <deep> "sudo nautilus" should work
[09:37] <Killgore> Keyseir: well how did you install ubuntu? from a live-cd or from a blue looking interface
[09:37] <mwe> !gksudo
[09:37] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using sudo {guiapp}
[09:38] <Keyseir> Killgore: From a CD. 5.10
[09:38] <deep> Killgore: blue looking ugly interface* ;D
[09:38] <eternalswd> I'd like to get a local ftp server up and running through proftpd.  I'd like access to several folders through the ftp.  What do I do in the conf file to add multiple directories and do I need to create a single directory with links to the actual directories?
[09:38] <Killgore> Keyseir: ok thanks
[09:38] <Keyseir> Killgore: Thank you.
[09:39] <deep> mwe: gksudo, thats in gnome, right?
[09:39] <Killgore> Keyseir: first we should backup your old list
[09:39] <bioticpro> Anyone here use VLC?  I need help setting the buffer/cache for online media
[09:39] <ubuntu> ok that works, but there is not enough space it tells me
[09:39] <deep> ubuntu: did it mount correctly?
[09:39] <Noxville> hi, my distro doesn't come with brctl so i have to install it... how do i do it?
[09:39] <Killgore> Keyseir: sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup
[09:39] <ubuntu> only 456 MB, when i tried to mount a 30 GB drive
[09:39] <ubuntu> I did what u saied
[09:39] <deep> umm..
[09:40] <Keyseir> Killgore: done
[09:40] <deep> ubuntu: I dont really know how to check if a drive is mounted..
[09:40] <deep> Killgore: Do you know?
[09:40] <Crankeye> Audio fixeditself <3
[09:40] <Killgore> deep: yeah
[09:40] <bionoid> deep: Type 'mount'
[09:40] <Killgore> deep: just type mount at the command line
[09:41] <ubuntu> when I type sudo umount /mnt it tells me drive is not mounted
[09:41] <deep> aah, thanx
[09:41] <deep> ubunut: "mount | grep /mnt"
[09:41] <deep> ubuntu: Does that give any output?
[09:41] <Noxville>  hi, my distro doesn't come with brctl so i have to install it... how do i do it?
 ubuntu: did it mount correctly?
 Keyseir: sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sourc
[09:41] <Noxville>  hi, my distro doesn't come with brctl so i have to install it... how do i do it?
 ubuntu: did it mount correctly?
 Keyseir: sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sourc
[09:41] <Noxville>  hi, my distro doesn't come with brctl so i have to install it... how do i do it?
 ubuntu: did it mount correctly?
 Keyseir: sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sourc
[09:41] <ubuntu> I dont know
[09:41] <Noxville> soz,, bad script runnin here
[09:41] <ubuntu> no output
[09:42] <Keyseir> um wtf Noxville?
[09:42] <ubuntu> I want to mount a ext3 partition
[09:42] <ubuntu> 30 gb
[09:42] <deep> ubuntu: Then it didnt mount correctly..
[09:42] <deep> Noxville: ?
[09:42] <lightstar> Noxville, ???
[09:42] <deep> ubuntu: yeah, W8
[09:42] <ubuntu> please help me mount this
[09:42] <Noxville> SORRRY
[09:42] <Noxville> jc
[09:42] <Killgore> Keyseir: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:42] <Noxville>  hi, my distro doesn't come with brctl so i have to install it... how do i do it?
[09:42] <Killgore> Keyseir: paste this over the top
[09:42] <eternalswd> ubuntu, what are you trying to mount?
[09:42] <lightstar> Noxville, you gotta install bridge-utils
[09:42] <Killgore> Keyseir: http://pastebin.com/791826
[09:42] <ubuntu> a local partition 30 gb ext3
[09:42] <Keyseir> Killgore: Just add, not replace?
[09:43] <Noxville> lightstar... pls tell me how.. i=noob
[09:43] <ubuntu> to move file there from lan
[09:43] <deep> "sudo mount -t ext3 -o UID=999 /dev/hdb2 /mnt" this should work..
[09:43] <lightstar> Noxville, sudo apt-get install bridge-utils
[09:43] <Squatch> So, if I install RapidSVN from Synaptic, how do I start it?  Where did it get installed to?  Doesn't it automagically put it into my Applications menu?
[09:43] <ubuntu> it did not like hdb 2
[09:43] <Noxville> Lightstar no internet on the linux box, only on this windows one.. i have downloaded the tarball and its on the linux box tho
[09:44] <Killgore> Keyseir: no totally replace it, it doest matter we have a backup
[09:44] <Keyseir> Killgore: Just asking what you meant by "paste this over the top"
[09:44] <deep> ubuntu: Are you sure the drive is there then?
[09:44] <lightstar> Noxville, get the .deb package..its easier
[09:44] <ubuntu> yes
[09:44] <Killgore> Keyseir: np
[09:44] <ubuntu> where is it then?
[09:44] <Keyseir> Killgore: pastebin isn't loading =/ Heh
[09:44] <Noxville> the .deb package isnt availible on sourceforge.
[09:44] <ubuntu> Computer nautilus shows 30 GB drive
[09:44] <ubuntu> local drive
[09:44] <ubuntu> how do I mount it?
[09:45] <eternalswd> ubuntu, what is the result of    ls /dev | grep hd
[09:45] <Noxville> !brctl
[09:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brctl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:45] <Killgore> Keyseir: :S
[09:45] <ubuntu> hda
[09:45] <ubuntu> hdb
[09:45] <ubuntu> hdb1
[09:45] <ubuntu> hdb2
[09:45] <ubuntu> hdb5
[09:45] <lightstar> Noxville, you can get the package from here http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/bridge-utils
[09:45] <lightstar> Noxville, choose the 1 appropriate for your machine
[09:45] <Keyseir> Killgore: Sourceomatic, swt
[09:46] <deep> ubuntu: umm..
[09:46] <eternalswd> okay, which one of those is not in the results of     df
[09:46] <Killgore> Keyseir: yeah cool huh?
[09:46] <ubuntu> local hard drive ahs primary unformated 7gb and extended formated ext 30gb
[09:46] <SlackRat> ok, im a little confused. i havent been running ubuntu for the past few weeks and theres a 6.06.1 maintenance release.....should i dist upgrade my 6.06 ??
[09:46] <Noxville> im not on dapper... still on hoary, dapper doesnt work on this old pc that im turning into a firewall
[09:46] <ubuntu> I want to mount 30 gb to place 6gb file from lan there
[09:46] <lightstar> Noxville, ahhhh
[09:46] <Noxville> sorry...
[09:46] <boink> !dapper
[09:46] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[09:47] <Keyseir> Killgore: Yessir. I figured there was something like that, but being a noob i didn't know where
[09:47] <boink> thus, the latest stable is 6.06 LTS
[09:47] <deep> ubuntu: < eternalswd> okay, which one of those is not in the results of     df
[09:47] <SlackRat> should i upgrade everytime a release is made?
[09:47] <boink> If you need to
[09:47] <deep> oops
[09:47] <deep> gtg
[09:47] <SlackRat> what is 6.06.1 then?
[09:47] <ubuntu> ?
[09:47] <deep> cya
[09:47] <Killgore> SlackRat: not necesseraly
[09:47] <ubuntu> deep: what?
[09:47] <warlock> Does anyone know how to build a kernel with hz=1000 ?
[09:48] <eternalswd> ubuntu, sorry forgot to address you, deep did it for me
[09:48] <boink> from dapper, each desktop release will be maintained three years and each server release will be maintained five years
[09:48] <Longfield> Hi guys ... anyone knows if software suspend2 is going to be integrated in the forthcoming ubuntu release ? or a place where I could find that information ?
[09:48] <indigoblu> SlackRat, Dapper with latest package updates, your system becomes a 6.0.6.1 setup when you install 6.06 and run updates
[09:48] <boink> if you want to update, that's up to you
[09:48] <SlackRat> i havent been running updates tho
[09:48] <indigoblu> warlock, its in kernel settings when you do kernel configuration
[09:48] <boink> well .. you might want to run security updates
[09:49] <SlackRat> i usually rely on periodic dist upgrades
[09:49] <SlackRat> i ll give that a look boink, thanks
[09:49] <peija-kas> updates are fun.. :)
[09:49] <boink> !easysource
[09:49] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:49] <Killgore> dist-upgrades can kill stuff tho
[09:49] <ubuntu> I think I mounted the bastard
[09:49] <SlackRat> im assuming that 6.06.1 can only improve a 6.06 install, right?
[09:49] <boink> sure, that can happen to
[09:49] <ubuntu> brb
[09:49] <gypsymauro> there is a way to add Debian menu in ubuntu? I mean, there is a lot of applications that doesn't appears in ubuntu/gnome menu, and usually on debian they are under the debian menu but even f I can see 'debian' entry in alacarte I can't add it to the menu (seems empty)
[09:50] <SlackRat> true killgore, which is why im asking about this latest
[09:50] <warlock> indigoblu - mind helping me out? Having major issues, I run a 3.2 Pentium D x2, with 4gb ram - but the FPS on the game-serer is onfurtunatly limited to 250 (the HZ is set to 100~ I guess) - also I'm running ubuntu breezy 5.10
[09:50] <SlackRat> yes gypsy but i dont remember it atm
[09:50] <eternalswd> ubuntu, df   is the command that shows all of the sizes of mounted stuff, so if you compare to the result of   ls /dev | grep hd  you'll be sure you have the right partition to mount
[09:50] <Killgore> SlackRat: well i installed 6.06.1 but that was a fresh install
[09:50] <SlackRat> check the ubuntu docs
[09:50] <SlackRat> i installed 6.06 about a month ago
[09:50] <boink> like if you're running a server with code, updates could break that
[09:50] <SlackRat> no server here...thank god
[09:50] <indigoblu> warlock, what kernel are you using?
[09:51] <boink> but on a desktop .. it *should* work fine. however, murphy's law applies
[09:51] <warlock> How do I check the kernel now again?
[09:51] <boink> uname -a
[09:51] <warlock> sorry - just woke up and feels like im having an bad hangover.
[09:51] <Killgore> uname -r ????
[09:51] <boink> uname -r is fine too
[09:51] <boink> uname -a gives you more information, that's all
[09:51] <Keyseir> Might anyone know why I'm getting "ERROR 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[09:51] <Keyseir> " when enter "mysql" followed by anything?
[09:51] <warlock> Just what I though, indigoblu 2.6.12-10-686-smp
[09:51] <Noxville> lightstar, soz i need to register quik so i can msg u
[09:52] <warlock> indigoblu - any ideas?
[09:52] <SlackRat> gypsy , check the official and unofficial ubuntu docs for adding debian menus, its a breeze
[09:52] <Keyseir> Also, I'm trying to install/upgrade mysql and I can't find a "mysql package" Is this not included in regular ubuntu repositories?
[09:52] <boink> it's there
[09:52] <boink> !mysql
[09:52] <ubotu> offically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)
[09:52] <eternalswd> Keyseir, does mysql work correctly if you sudo?
[09:53] <WinterWeaver> !samba
[09:53] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:53] <indigoblu> warlock, so you are running Breezy?
[09:53] <warlock> Yes
[09:53] <eternalswd> I'd like to get a local ftp server up and running through proftpd.  I'd like access to several folders through the ftp.  What do I do in the conf file to add multiple directories and do I need to create a single directory with links to the actual directories?
[09:53] <indigoblu> warlock, amd64 or not?
[09:53] <warlock> (Due to dapper not being the right distro to run on game servers, trust me. I've tested)
[09:53] <warlock> No intel
[09:53] <SlackRat> ok thanks guys........later.....i think ill upgrade after some sleeptime
[09:54] <SlackRat> cheers
[09:54] <indigoblu> warlock, is this a colo or a home box?
[09:54] <warlock> It's on 100/100mbit at my work.
[09:54] <indigoblu> warlock, okay, do you have the kernel image downloaded?
[09:54] <Keyseir> eternalswd: I get the same messaging if I >sudo mysql
[09:55] <warlock> indigoblu - could we take this on aim/quakenet perhaps? I'm not identifyed to the services here and I cannot pm you. I rather take this through pm - if it's ok with you?
[09:55] <BeBraw> where do i setup multiple monitors on ubuntu? i have got two screens (17" and 15,4") and ATI card
[09:56] <BeBraw> preferences\screen resolution contains only settings of the primary monitor
[09:56] <indigoblu> warlock, well im gonna tell you waht do in one long command line
[09:56] <indigoblu> warlock, im figuring out what to do for the moment.
[09:56] <warlock> ok - do you use aim/msn perhaps?
[09:56] <eternalswd> Keyseir, any output from   ps -A | grep mysqld
[09:57] <ubuntu> I mounted local partition ext3 via sudo, but can not see it if I open nautilus using sudo
[09:57] <indigoblu> warlock, go nuts (aim: vedas2)
[09:57] <Keyseir> eternalswd: All out like that?
[09:57] <Morrowyn> how do i get wpa support for my wireless card?
[09:57] <ubuntu> deep are you there?
[09:57] <Keyseir> eternalswd, as not those two things seperately just "ps -A | grep mysqld"?
[09:58] <eternalswd> yes as one thing
[09:58] <eternalswd> ubuntu, what's the permissions on the mount directory?
[09:58] <Keyseir> Then no
[09:59] <eternalswd> Keyseir, okay that means you have no mysql server running, which is why you can't connect to it
[10:00] <Keyseir> eternalswd,  I seem to have mysql stuff installed though. Do I need to install further software before I can set things up, or what should I do?
[10:00] <eternalswd> Keyseir, see if you can run   mysqld
[10:00] <ubuntu> weird.. I opened it with sudo nautilus /mnt
[10:00] <myatthu> Keyseir, clearly you got to start the mysqld server ....
[10:00] <ubuntu> but sudo nautilus would not show it
[10:00] <ubuntu> why would this happen?
[10:00] <Flannel> ubuntu: don't do sudo nautilus, if you want a super user nautilus, use gksudo
[10:00] <Keyseir> eternalswd, bash: mysqld: command not found
[10:01] <ubuntu> ok
[10:01] <myatthu> Keyseir, then pls install mysqsld server ...
[10:01] <ubuntu> can I know why?
[10:01] <myatthu> sqld
[10:01] <ubuntu> just curious
[10:01] <Keyseir> How do I do this with apt-get?
[10:01] <myatthu> Keyseir, actually there is synaptic ... why not use it ?
[10:01] <Keyseir> Or is MySQL not in ubuntu repository?
[10:02] <Flannel> ubuntu: it sets up the environment better
[10:02] <myatthu> Keyseir, pls search for mysql in synaptic and see if you can find the server there
[10:02] <Keyseir> myatthu, Oh, alright. I'll do that then =)
[10:02] <eternalswd> ubuntu, when you open nautilus, it defaults to the home directory, which in the case of using sudo is /root
[10:02] <ubuntu> I am copying file now.. thanks for helping me out guys. Linux rules!
[10:02] <devilsadvocate> hello
[10:02] <Keyseir> myatthu, OK.
[10:02] <devilsadvocate> can someone tell me how the xorg7.0 in ubuntu is differnt from that in debian ... ?
[10:02] <ubuntu> when I used sudo nautilus, it did not show me the mounted drive in nautilus
[10:03] <ubuntu> that's what i do not understand
[10:03] <ubuntu> but i accessed it with sudo nautilus /mnt
[10:03] <eternalswd> ubuntu, so you saw not mnt folder in the / directory?
[10:04] <ubuntu> how do I know which hd is what?
[10:04] <ubuntu> what command do I use?
[10:04] <mwe> df -h
[10:04] <mwe> or mount
[10:05] <ubuntu> df -h  will list all hds and describe them?
[10:05] <[MaKuBeX] > Visit http://www.omgema.lt  its good . Have a nice day!
[10:05] <myatthu> ubuntu, why not try it ?
[10:06] <Keyseir> myatthu, mysql-server mysql database server binaries?
[10:06] <rak_> hey, i'm trying to use utorrent in ubutu with wine, the program itself is working but i haven't been able to download anything yet.  I'm not really asking for help i just want to know if i should keep tinkering to get it to work or if i should give up because its impossible?
[10:06] <myatthu> Keyseir, yup
[10:06] <ubuntu> How do i find the unformated primary partition on Hard Drive?
[10:06] <myatthu> ubuntu, for that you got to use fdisk
[10:06] <Flannel> Keyseir: you're setting up a lamp thing? or just mysql?
[10:06] <ubuntu> fdisk?
[10:06] <warlock> Does anyone know how to tar.gz a whole dir? ex /var/www/mysite
[10:06] <warlock> I need a backup
[10:06] <ubuntu> just type fdisk in terminal?
[10:07] <Keyseir> Flannel, just mysql as of the moment. Trying to set up Tracks [http://www.rousette.org.uk/projects/] 
[10:07] <Keyseir> Flannel, To run locally
[10:07] <bionoid> warlock: tar -c --file=file.tar /dir/name && gzip file.tar
[10:07] <myatthu> ubuntu, sudo fdisk /dev/hda .... try it ..
[10:08] <myatthu> then press p ...
[10:08] <warlock> bionoid - where will that file end up?
[10:08] <myatthu> don't try the other characters ... pls ask here first .. fdisk = format disk
[10:08] <eternalswd> warlock, you can also use the file-roller gui program
[10:08] <Flannel> Keyseir: alright, well, this page still covers it, you just need to ignore the non-mysql stuff ;)
[10:08] <Flannel> !tell Keyseir about lamp
[10:08] <bionoid> warlock: in whatever directory you're in when you type it. don't be in the dir you're tarring down, obviously :)
[10:08] <warlock> ok :)
[10:08] <Keyseir> Flannel, THx
[10:09] <ubuntu> that gave me "Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite)"
[10:09] <ubuntu> what do I do?
[10:10] <Keyseir> Flannel, I haven't received anything from ubotu or the like
[10:12] <Keyseir> !ubotu
[10:12] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:14] <torti-> hi i'm having problems getting capi2name to run: calls were recorded in /var/log/capisuite.log ( http://nopaste.php-q.net/241465 ) but never show up in the web frontend
[10:14] <eternalswd> how do I provide ftp access using proftpd to anonymous users (read-only) in multiple directories?
[10:15] <botxj> oh sheee...
[10:15] <mwe> eternalswd: I guess you could always create symlinks
[10:16] <eternalswd> mwe, is this the syntax  ln -s /from/dir /to/dir
[10:16] <mwe> eternalswd: right
[10:17] <eternalswd> okay, so once I have a directory with all of the symlinks, how do I add read-only rights on that directory in proftpd?
[10:17] <samu2> I have a printer connected to my windows PC, how can i print to it over my home network?
[10:18] <eternalswd> *for anonymous
[10:18] <dibblego> every time I reboot my machine, my NIC is either eth1 or eth2 and it appears to be arbitrary - wtf is going on?
[10:19] <TeePOG> does anyone else here3 use the Searchparty extension for firefox? the download link is dead
[10:20] <Keyseir> Every time I say "hello" my computer monitor flashes bright green. Might this have been caused by my accident spitting on the any key last monday?
[10:20] <botxj> hello
[10:20] <botxj> how are you :)
[10:20] <samu2> hello world!
[10:20] <torti-> anyone here uses capi2name?
[10:21] <boink> !samhain
[10:21] <ubotu> samhain: Data integrity and host intrusion alert system. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.10a-2 (dapper), package size 649 kB, installed size 1788 kB
[10:21] <Devil_Kin> hey folks
[10:21] <Devil_Kin> i've got trouble getting grub to boot my winxp 64bit version.. using kubuntu, latest one, 64bit
[10:22] <ubuntu> guys, when I run command in terminal, and it blinks does it mean the process is happening?
[10:22] <Devil_Kin> after showing the commands on the display, i just get a blinking cursor, nothing more
[10:22] <ubuntu> How do I check is "something is happening?
[10:22] <Devil_Kin> any ideas what might be wrong?
[10:23] <Churrimandurri> buenos das a todoel mundo que entienda castelano
[10:23] <Devil_Kin> windows xp is in sda1, grub in sda mbr, using these settings
[10:23] <ubuntu> How do I check CPU usage in GUI of ubuntu?
[10:23] <Devil_Kin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24356
[10:24] <THX-1138> Hi! - Can somone help me with font corruption in World of Warcraft?
[10:25] <eternalswd> how do I properly symlink such that ~/drive1  points to /media/sdc1
[10:26] <tourach> eternalswd, ln -s /media/sdc1 ~/drive1
[10:26] <dibblego> why does my machine arbitrarily choose to assign either eth1 or eth2 to my network card?
[10:28] <THX-1138> dibblego - another card is active sometimes maybe wifi?
[10:28] <dibblego> THX-1138, I have another card that is eth0 - it is always eth0 - it's the most absurd behaviour ever
[10:29] <dibblego> I have a workaround by modifying /etc/network/interfaces to have exactly the same for both eth1 and eth2 knowing that one of them will work
[10:29] <dibblego> I can't understand why I cannot just use eth1 (or eth2 if that were the case)
[10:29] <dibblego> right now it is eth2 - I am about to reboot
[10:29] <Keyseir> Where can I go to find proper syntax for creating a mysql database?
[10:30] <THX-1138> dibblego - would comparing dmesg output help identify what is using resources?
[10:30] <dibblego> Keyseir, the mysql manual
[10:30] <samu2> So, I found this thing on the ubuntu wiki about adding an SMB printer, but when I enter all the info and click apply I don't get a "Setup successful" message and there are no printers showing in my "Printers" setup thing. What do I make of this?
[10:30] <eternalswd> dibblego, I've had that same problem.  It's really annoying when trying to mount network shares on boot.
[10:30] <dibblego> eternalswd, even more annoying when the machine is headless
[10:30] <dibblego> eternalswd, got a solution?
[10:30] <eternalswd> not yet
[10:30] <dibblego> THX-1138, perhaps
[10:30] <fdoving> dibblego: you can use /etc/iftab to tell it what name you want.
[10:31] <eternalswd> I just installed my second nic today, so it hasn't bothered me enough to mess with it
[10:31] <THX-1138> fdoving - nice tip
[10:31] <eternalswd> I don't imagine I'll be rebooting anytime soon, so I'll deal with it when I need to.
[10:32] <THX-1138> Can i change the screen width for a specific resolution in WINE?
[10:32] <dibblego> fdoving, ah thanks - is the apparently arbitrary name expected behaviour in the event that it is not specified in iftab?
[10:33] <fdoving> dibblego: no, the interfaces are named in the order the drivers are loaded. eth0 is the first, eth1 second.. eth2 third.. and so on. iftab overrides that.
[10:33] <wastrel> ubunto
[10:33] <dibblego> fdoving, then why would I have eth0 and eth2 sometimes?
[10:33] <botxj> alright i have problems
[10:33] <eternalswd> thanks, fdoving
[10:34] <botxj> i installed XGL using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl that page and at the end of Method A where i log into my XGL desktop, i get a error screen from GDM saying no displays were found
[10:35] <fdoving> dibblego: no idea. i don't know how your setup is. if you unload the driver for eth0 or eth1, after eth2 is created, eth2 won't be renamed to eth1 and so on..
[10:35] <dibblego> fdoving, ok thanks for the tips
[10:35] <fdoving> happy to help.
[10:36] <eternalswd> fdoving, one question, what does "arp 1" mean for my device that was already listed in /etc/iftab
[10:36] <dibblego> eternalswd, it is in man iftab
[10:36] <dibblego> eternalswd, it says you can derive it from ifconfig - I'm not sure how exactly though
[10:37] <fallingdutch> which rights needs tircproxy in transparent mode on /dev/pf ?
[10:37] <fdoving> eternalswd: arp-type, you want arp 1.
[10:37] <dibblego> eternalswd, the Metric perhaps?
[10:38] <eternalswd> yeah, I'm thinking it's the Metric
[10:38] <Ackeubu_> i think i have version reverted to 1.02 of wesnoth on dapper. i run edgy on the other laptop and there i have 1.1.8. how do i upgrade wesnoth to 1.1.8 in dapper?
[10:39] <dibblego> I recently did a kernel upgrade on another machine and it seems to be corrupt - is there a wiki page that describes how to roll back from the live cd?
[10:39] <Vapour> hello. anyone here who is using windows? ^^
[10:39] <borg_> i'm using windows
[10:39] <borg_> somebody please answer my question from above
[10:39] <Lynoure> Vapour: sometimes, for games
[10:40] <Lynoure> borg_: lastlog shows no question from you.. weird
[10:40] <borg_> i'm on two names
[10:40] <borg_> without the underscore
[10:40] <Vapour> cool. I want to install latex on a windows computer, can you recommend a small programm?
[10:40] <gel> it seems like trivial question but how do i check my cpu / system temp in terminal?
[10:41] <gel> without lm-sensors that is
[10:41] <Lynoure> borg_: no help... could not see it.
[10:41] <borg_> my name is borg
[10:41] <borg_> i'm on here as a second client named "borg_"
[10:41] <borg_> but my other client is logged on as "borg"
[10:41] <Vapour> borg_: I guess he typed "b" and then "tab" ;)
[10:42] <Lynoure> borg_: I can see that... just not your question in the last 1000 lines
[10:42] <borg_> nevermind, i'll ask the question again
[10:42] <Lynoure> Vapour: no idea what he typed, I did /lastlog borg
[10:42] <botxj> ok, here i am
[10:42] <botxj> oh wait
[10:42] <botxj> it wasnt that
[10:43] <botxj> this is my name
[10:43] <botxj> sorry it's not borg it's botxj
[10:43] <Vapour> it seems to be hard to remember one's name ^^
[10:43] <botxj> yes
[10:43] <botxj> very hard
[10:43] <dibblego> there was some command to mount a disk as if it were the root filesystem - what is it?
[10:43] <Vapour> Lynoure: what does /lastlog do?
[10:43] <Lynoure> sorry, not going to dig for it anymore... bit bored now
[10:44] <ubuntu> what is Dev/hda?
[10:44] <ubuntu> can anyone help me please?
[10:44] <botxj> Lynoure you lazy son of a gun
[10:44] <eternalswd> if i delete a symlink, it doesn't delete the original, right?
[10:44] <botxj> i installed XGL using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl that page and at the end of Method A where i log into my XGL desktop, i get a error screen from GDM saying no displays were found
[10:44] <Lynoure> Vapour: try it :) /lastlog foobar   :)
[10:44] <dibblego> eternalswd, right
[10:44] <Vapour> oh cool ^^
[10:45] <ubuntu> Guys, I have primary partition unformated 7 gb, to which I want to write, what would it be? /dev/hda ?
[10:45] <Vapour> and... I just noticed that I accidentally joined the ubuntu channel when I wanted to go to the latex channel %)
[10:45] <ubuntu> I am using Live Cd
[10:45] <Lynoure> Vapour: it's a charm on this channel especially
[10:45] <Devil_Kin> noone any idea about grub?
[10:45] <Vapour> Lynoure: it's pretty handy
[10:45] <fdoving> eternalswd, dibblego, arp 1 is not the metric. google 'interface metric' and 'arp types' - 'arp 1' basically says "we're speaking ethernet protocol"
[10:45] <botxj> come on guys, answer my question
[10:46] <eternalswd> fdoving, okay, good to know
[10:46] <dibblego> fdoving, ok cheers
[10:46] <Vapour> but since I'm here, can you recommend anything for latex in ubuntu? ^^
[10:47] <Lynoure> botxj: sounds like an error in the xfree config but that you knew already I bet
[10:47] <fdoving> eternalswd, dibblego, also - the metric is only used when running a router daemon, so i wouldn't even start worrying about it, or spending too much time thinking about what it is.
[10:47] <botxj> no, Lynoure, i didnt
[10:47] <Lynoure> botxj: check the log, what's there?
[10:47] <Keyseir> The installation directions for some software instructs me to 'rake migrate'. ubuntu does not recognize 'rake', am i doing something wrong?
[10:49] <Keyseir> anyone? rake migrate?
[10:49] <botxj> Lynoure:  where do they keep the logs?
[10:50] <Lynoure> botxj: /var/log/Xorg*
[10:51] <botxj> that's a lot of crap on that log
[10:52] <THX-1138> Can somone help me with font corruption in World of Warcraft?
[10:52] <Keyseir> Does anyone know what rake migrate is supposed to do?
[10:52] <Keyseir> And why I can't do it?
[10:53] <FrankB> hello, could anyone tell me how to exit X server (whatever X is), I'm trying to install my nvidia driver (first time using linux ever)
[10:54] <ubuntu> Guys, I have a question, please help. I ahve my harddrive setup like this: Primary partition 7gb unformated, extended partition ex3 format 30 gb. how can I find the primary one? which one will it be? hda1? hdb?
[10:54] <lars__> frankb open a terminal and type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:55] <ubuntu> anyone has a clue?
[10:55] <Arcainus> ubuntu: you answered your question already?
[10:55] <kurwa1970> hi
[10:55] <FrankB> let me try that lars, thnx :P
[10:55] <ubuntu> no, can you help?
[10:55] <FrankB> it says Command now found :S
[10:56] <ubuntu> Arcainus: please can you help?
[10:56] <ubuntu_> as
[10:56] <ubuntu_> help
[10:56] <Arcainus> ubuntu: type this
[10:56] <jazwec> hi...please could anybody help me with making my SB Audigy 2 ZS work? it works sometimes when i play some video on internernet -for example from youtube- but when i want to play some video or music from my hdd, it makes no sound...and also i cant adjust the volume...bar slides but it has no affect
[10:56] <Arcainus> mount
[10:56] <Arcainus> and list your hdd partitions
[10:56] <hombre> Sagem adsj fast 800 usb. Problem: can`t install driver. make comand returns error. NEWBIE
[10:57] <ubuntu> how do I know which one is unformated and 7 gb?
[10:57] <ubuntu> how can I displ;ay info?
[10:57] <_jupo> how to recursively delete a type of file? i tried rm -rf *.pyc but it only does the current dir
[10:57] <[MaKuBeX] > Visit http://www.omgema.lt  its good . Have a nice day!
[10:58] <ubuntu> guys please
[10:58] <FrankB> damn, got to go to school, I'll be back this afternoon
[10:58] <FrankB> ubuntu are you in windows now?
[10:59] <ubuntu> on a Live cd
[10:59] <FrankB> start the install
[10:59] <hombre> Sagem adsl fast 800 usb. Problem: can`t install driver. make comand returns error. NEWBIE
[10:59] <FrankB> go through all the steps
[10:59] <ubuntu> I do not want to install
[10:59] <FrankB> once you get to the part
[10:59] <ubuntu> I have a different goal
[10:59] <FrankB> you can edit partitions using the install
[10:59] <Keyseir> is anyone here familar with rake?
[10:59] <ubuntu> I need to write a .img file to a partition on the hard drive
[10:59] <Keyseir> andrew@dalavar:~/tracks-1.043$ sudo rake migrate
[10:59] <Keyseir> (in /home/andrew/tracks-1.043)
[10:59] <Keyseir> rake aborted!
[10:59] <Keyseir> undefined method `namespace' for main:Object
[10:59] <Keyseir> ./Rakefile:10
[11:00] <Keyseir> !?
[11:00] <ubuntu> FrankB: can you please help?
[11:00] <ubuntu> FrankB: I just need to write a file to a correct partition
[11:01] <ubuntu> anyone?
[11:01] <hombre> Sagem adsl fast 800 usb. Problem: can`t install driver. make comand returns error. need help,NEWBIE
[11:03] <hombre> Sagem adsl fast 800 usb. Problem: can`t install driver. make comand returns error. need help,NEWBIE
[11:05] <ingsoc> how do i install themes i dloaded?
[11:05] <ubuntu> guys
[11:05] <ubuntu> how do I figure out what hd is what partition?
[11:06] <mypapit> !suck
[11:06] <ubotu> suck: small newsfeed from an NNTP server with standard NNTP commands. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.3.2-4 (dapper), package size 149 kB, installed size 524 kB
[11:06] <osten> ubuntu: administration -> disks
[11:07] <jackster> Hey how do I find out what version of Forcedeth I have?
[11:07] <osten> ubuntu: that is, go into the systemmenu then administration -> disks
[11:07] <Keyseir> Is anyone here familiar with ruby?
[11:07] <Noxville2> lightstar...... pvt
[11:07] <Noxville2> yes, me Keyseir
[11:08] <ubuntu> osten thank you very much
[11:08] <hombre> Sagem adsl fast 800 usb. Problem: can`t install driver. make comand returns error. need help,NEWBIE
[11:08] <ubuntu> osten: I have one more question
[11:08] <boink> what's the error?
[11:08] <Keyseir> Noxville2, Alright.. I have a little problem and it might be complicated.
[11:08] <osten> I've been using linux for a week only so :P
[11:08] <Keyseir> Noxville2, I'm trying to "rake migrate"
[11:08] <ubuntu> osten: I did dd command on a wrong partition.. /dev/hda
[11:08] <ubuntu> what has happened?
[11:08] <Keyseir> Noxville, And I'm getting a wierd error... and I think I might have the wrong version of rake or something, based off random forums i searched out
[11:08] <osten> sorry, i don't knkow what dd is
[11:09] <ubuntu> guys what is /dev/hda?
[11:09] <Keyseir> Noxville2, Also I can't use the "gem" command and I'm not sure what I need for that
[11:09] <osten> !make
[11:09] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:09] <Barbicane> The first hard drive the system sees.
[11:09] <Barbicane> is /dev/hda
[11:09] <Keyseir> Noxville2, andrew@dalavar:~$ cd ./tracks-1.043
[11:09] <Keyseir> andrew@dalavar:~/tracks-1.043$ sudo rake migrate
[11:09] <Keyseir> (in /home/andrew/tracks-1.043)
[11:09] <Keyseir> rake aborted!
[11:09] <Keyseir> undefined method `namespace' for main:Object
[11:09] <Keyseir> ./Rakefile:10
[11:09] <Noxville2> sorry, i thought you were talking the "sport rugby"
[11:10] <Keyseir> ....
[11:10] <Keyseir> You thought I said rugby?
[11:10] <botxj> what happens when i get debian packages trying to overrite files in each other kind of error messages?
[11:11] <Noxville2> have you heard of that sport before???
[11:12] <botxj> what's the command to install stuff? is it sudo apt-get?
[11:13] <we2by> BoggsBeer, sudo apt-get install name
[11:13] <we2by> botxj, ^^
[11:14] <neildarlow> hi. where can i find documentation on the wireless-* options you can put into /etc/network/interfaces?
[11:14] <botxj> thank you
[11:14] <Jug> is there any documentation about using acl with ubuntu?
[11:14] <botxj> what happened to the package "csm" ?
[11:14] <neildarlow> i want to configure a rt2570-based USB NIC with WPA-PSK. any pointers please
[11:14] <botxj> it's not in the repositores anymore
[11:16] <brong> neildarlow: you might want to check the forums..
[11:16] <brong> there's a post on setting up network manager with wpa support
[11:16] <POVaddct> neildarlow: i don't know if it's possible at all. i also have rt2570-based usb-wlan here (d-link dwl-g122 rev.b1)
[11:17] <twallcx> hi
[11:17] <twallcx> uhm, i'm having trouble getting php and MySQL to get along with one another
[11:17] <POVaddct> neildarlow: the readme file in the rt2570 sources documents some iwpriv commands for WPA, but they seem to be wrong or outdaten
[11:17] <brong> POVaddct: you checked the howto ?
[11:17] <botxj> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/compiz-gnome_0.0.13.57-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[11:17] <botxj>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/gnome/wm-properties/compiz.desktop', which is also in package compiz
[11:18] <botxj> what does that mean?
[11:18] <POVaddct> brong: no, i just checked the docs in the driver source
[11:18] <brong> ahh
[11:18] <brong> check this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=125150&highlight=network+manager+howto
[11:18] <twallcx> does anyone here have any experience with ubuntu-based LAMP servers?
[11:18] <Jug> twallcx: what about those?
[11:18] <brong> that helped me...although my card was easy to setup
[11:19] <POVaddct> brong: network manager is much too highlevel. i doubt that card will work with wpa_supplicant.
[11:19] <botxj> i'm having package issues
[11:19] <brong> POVaddct: ok...
[11:19] <twallcx> jug >> my Mysql queries and inserts don't happen at all through mysql
[11:20] <twallcx> although it may not be an ubuntu problem
[11:20] <crazy_penguin> Good day all! :)
[11:20] <twallcx> i was wondering if it was
[11:20] <lightstar> twallcx, is php-mysql installed?
[11:21] <twallcx> like... did anyone have any trouble getting it running
[11:21] <twallcx> yes
[11:21] <lightstar> twallcx, your running php5 rite?
[11:21] <linopil> !ssh
[11:21] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[11:21] <boink> !putty
[11:21] <twallcx> i believe so, but i can't find the binary
[11:21] <twallcx> but php happens thru apache
[11:21] <boink> putty also does an unix version too
[11:22] <lightstar> twallcx, wat about other php stuff? do they work? just mysql don't work?
[11:22] <twallcx> lemme check version
[11:22] <twallcx> 5
[11:22] <twallcx> uhm
[11:22] <POVaddct> boink: yeah, using gtk1
[11:22] <barro> bonjour
[11:22] <twallcx> mysql works and php does
[11:22] <twallcx> but i cand do anything with mysql through php
[11:22] <barro> je cherche kelk'un qui parle francais
[11:22] <boink> barro: bonjour  toi aussi :)
[11:22] <boink> mais on parle l'anglais ici
[11:22] <twallcx> can't*
[11:23] <boink> !fr
[11:23] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:23] <barro> merci
[11:23] <boink> bon courage :)
[11:23] <lightstar> when you execute a command did u out a 'or die(mysql_Error())' at the end? to see wats the error? or even that doesnt work?
[11:23] <barro> ciaooo
[11:23] <twallcx> no error
[11:24] <twallcx> it's like it's just /dev/null-ing everything i send to mysql
[11:24] <lightstar> twallcx, hmm...wat does phpinfo() show
[11:24] <lightstar> twallcx, mysql support is there?
[11:24] <we2by> !totem
[11:24] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:24] <we2by> any program like itune for ubuntu?
[11:25] <boink> to use your iPod thing?
[11:25] <we2by> no, I like to organice my music
[11:25] <we2by> organize
[11:25] <J4t> we2by: amarok fr kubuntu
[11:26] <we2by> but I'm on ubuntu
[11:26] <boink> same thing, we2by
[11:26] <boink> apt-get install amarok
[11:26] <boink> and see if it does what you want
[11:26] <twallcx> that's funny
[11:26] <lightstar> we2by, rrhythmbox is similar to itunes, if you don't want to install kde libs :)
[11:26] <boink> yet another idea :)
[11:26] <lightstar> boink, just an alternative in case
[11:26] <twallcx> phpinfo doesn't show anything...
[11:26] <lightstar> :)
[11:27] <twallcx> wait... lemme see if i :w'd the file
[11:27] <lightstar> twallcx, meaning? blank screen?
[11:27] <lightstar> twallcx, :)
[11:28] <we2by> rhytmbox does the job
[11:28] <twallcx> nvm
[11:28] <we2by> iTunes is still better
[11:28] <we2by> :(
[11:28] <twallcx> i got the phpinfo () screen
[11:28] <twallcx> php works fine
[11:29] <twallcx> 5.1.2
[11:29] <lightstar> twallcx, is mysql listed as 1 of the supported module?
[11:29] <boink> but iTunes is closed source
[11:29] <boink> that sux
[11:29] <hombre> Sagem Fast 800 adsl instalation problems. make command returns error. I have logged the stepps in a txt file. Newbie!
[11:29] <lightstar> true true
[11:29] <boink> what the error?
[11:30] <hombre> i can send the txt file
[11:30] <boink> !paste
[11:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:30] <hombre> ok
[11:30] <boink> you've installed build-essentials as well?
[11:31] <dibblego> setting up WPA from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1035708 "6. Select your network in the NM icon" -- where is the NM (Network Manager) icon?
[11:31] <boink> !build-essentials
[11:31] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:31] <twallcx> lightstar >> it is
[11:31] <hombre> here comes
[11:31] <twallcx> but /usr/include/mysql doesn't exist in filesystem
[11:31] <hombre> make[1] : Entering directory `/tmp/eagle-usb/eagle-usb-src/driver'
[11:31] <hombre> make  -C /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/build SUBDIRS=/tmp/eagle-usb/eagle-usb-src/driver modules
[11:31] <hombre> make[2] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386'
[11:31] <hombre>   CC [M]   /tmp/eagle-usb/eagle-usb-src/driver/eu_main.o
[11:31] <hombre> /tmp/eagle-usb/eagle-usb-src/driver/eu_main.c: In function eu_disconnect_postfirm:
[11:31] <twallcx> but mysql is configured as such
[11:31] <hombre> /tmp/eagle-usb/eagle-usb-src/driver/eu_main.c:950: error: URB_ASYNC_UNLINK undeclared (first use in this function)
[11:31] <boink> hombre: you've installed build-essentials yet?
[11:31] <hombre> /tmp/eagle-usb/eagle-usb-src/driver/eu_main.c:950: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
[11:31] <hombre> /tmp/eagle-usb/eagle-usb-src/driver/eu_main.c:950: error: for each function it appears in.)
[11:31] <boink> aaargh
[11:31] <hombre> make[3] : *** [/tmp/eagle-usb/eagle-usb-src/driver/eu_main.o]  Error 1
[11:31] <hombre> make[2] : *** [_module_/tmp/eagle-usb/eagle-usb-src/driver]  Error 2
[11:31] <hombre> make[2] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386'
[11:31] <hombre> make[1] : *** [eagle-usb.ko]  Error 2
[11:31] <hombre> make[1] : Leaving directory `/tmp/eagle-usb/eagle-usb-src/driver'
[11:32] <hombre> make: *** [build]  Error 2
[11:32] <lightstar> hombre, ??? whoa
[11:32] <hombre> ? no
[11:32] <Flannel> hombre: DONT paste here, use PASTEBIN
[11:32] <Flannel> !paste
[11:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:32] <boink> !pastebin
[11:32] <hombre> sorry
[11:32] <hombre> sorry
[11:32] <hombre> sorry
[11:32] <hombre> sorry
[11:32] <LoRez> Warning: `hombre' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[11:32] <boink> :/
[11:32] <lightstar> twallcx, tats strange..even during mysql_connect with die mysql_error still has nothing?
[11:32] <dibblego> http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/09/05/2055232 "Simply click on the Network-Manager icon to see all available wireless networks" -- where is that icon?
[11:33] <wastrel> dibblego:  you have to install network manager and add the applet to your panel
[11:33] <twallcx> yes
[11:33] <twallcx> blank screen
[11:33] <dibblego> wastrel, I have installed network-manager-gnome -- what next?
[11:34] <twallcx> it's frustrating
[11:34] <wastrel> dibblego:  right-click on your gnome panel and choose "add to panel"
[11:34] <dibblego> wastrel, /usr/bin/network-admin ?
[11:34] <twallcx> it's been DAYS since i began this project
[11:34] <Flannel> !tell twallcx about lamp
[11:34] <Flannel> twallcx: did you follow that howto?
[11:35] <wastrel> dibblego:  it's called network-manager-gnome i think
[11:35] <wastrel> (i don't use it... :)
[11:35] <dibblego> wastrel, perhaps I need a reboot or something?
[11:35] <lightstar> twallcx, did u install using dapper-server or did u set it up manually?
[11:35] <dibblego> wastrel, I see no such thing in that add to panel dialog
[11:36] <twallcx> dapper-server
[11:36] <wastrel> dibblego:  sec, i'm installing it.
[11:36] <lightstar> twallcx, chose lamp install rite?
[11:36] <twallcx> i used the lamp server option
[11:36] <twallcx> oops
[11:36] <twallcx> yeah
[11:36] <twallcx> i did
[11:36] <dibblego> wastrel, ok thanks
[11:36] <Ackeubu_> hey guys, i need to find easy samples of c code. like hello world and the likes. any idea of where to look?
[11:37] <POVaddct> are there any special boot options for the live cd? such as "don't start X session", "don't do hardware detection", ...?
[11:38] <chrome> Hi all, quick question, how mature/supported is the amd64 port of the desktop release?
[11:39] <lightstar> chrome, pretty good...been using it without any problems..cept have to install some 32bit apps to get some features working
[11:39] <dibblego> wastrel, I am going to try rebooting - brb
[11:39] <boink> chrome: there are still some apps which aren't yet 64 bit
[11:39] <boink> on the server side, it's fine. but for the desktop, not just yet
[11:39] <chrome> OK, and is my nvidia card going to work with all the opengl goodness?
[11:39] <chrome> ahh
[11:40] <boink> chrome: I couldn't say that exactly
[11:40] <chrome> ok.  I'll go 32bit then. Its not like I have more than 4GB ram anyway :P
[11:40] <chrome> thanks!
[11:40] <boink> then in a year or two, 64 bit desktop should be fine
[11:40] <hombre> !pastebin
[11:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:40] <boink> and hombre one more:
[11:40] <hombre> yes
[11:40] <boink> !build-essentials
[11:40] <lightstar> boink, especially firefox with flash support:P
[11:40] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:41] <boink> and the wincodecs, if you want to listen to wma/wmv streams
[11:41] <lightstar> definitely..but i use the firefox32 with mplayer plugin..seems to work..for now
[11:42] <Keyseir> Anybody here familiar with Ruby?
[11:42] <Keyseir> slash ruby on rails?
[11:43] <boink> !youtube-dl
[11:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about youtube-dl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:43] <SL|warlock> Does anyone know how to build a kernel with hz=1000 ? I'm using ubuntu breezy 5.10, with kernel 2.6 smp
[11:43] <dibblego> wastrel, I cannot see any difference
[11:43] <wastrel> dibblego:  run nm-applet &  in the console.
[11:43] <we2by> how do I install the latest i686 kernel?
[11:44] <dibblego> wastrel, and then?
[11:44] <wastrel> it will add the applet to your panel.
[11:44] <we2by> ?
[11:44] <cpk1> we2by: you would need to compile it
[11:44] <we2by> cpk1, I mean latest precompilled kernel
[11:45] <dibblego> wastrel, thanks
[11:45] <wastrel> working?
[11:45] <hombre> I think i`m stupid. good bye
[11:45] <eternalswd> I have a local fileserver using apache with some symlinks, but I can't add public read access to the folders on a fat32 partition.  what can I do to allow access from apache
[11:45] <cpk1> i guess apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:45] <dibblego> wastrel, I don't have any WPA networks at the moment to test :)
[11:46] <dibblego> wastrel, I left click it and get "no network devices available", since I am using my wireless nic at the moment I think
[11:46] <we2by> what kernel do I need for core duo?
[11:46] <we2by> linux-686-smp?
[11:47] <wastrel> dibblego:  i think you'll have to configure NetworkManager or something - i wonder if there's a howto...
[11:47] <wastrel> nm-applet seems to talk to the NetworkManager daemon
[11:47] <dawg^> anyone here use Ubuntu on Shuttle hardware?
[11:47] <dibblego> wastrel, I should be able to manage from here, thanks for the help
[11:47] <SL|warlock> Does anyone know how to build a kernel with hz=1000 ? I'm using ubuntu breezy 5.10, with kernel 2.6 smp
[11:47] <Tigers-fnozzke> how long does it take to install ubuntu? (simple installation)
[11:48] <dibblego> TigerCR1200, ~20 minutes
[11:48] <dawg^> Tigers-fnozzke, it took me about 20 minutes.
[11:48] <wastrel> sure
[11:48] <Tigers-fnozzke> oki,thx
[11:49] <eternalswd> I guess my question is how can I allow public readability to fat32 partitions?
[11:53] <DJGummik1h> hey
[11:53] <DJGummik1h> can you read NTFS drives with ubuntu live cd?
[11:53] <kyja> ummmm, why all of a sudden does my Ubuntu call itself Edubuntu on startup and shutdown?????? can I fix this?
[11:54] <hawkaloogie> kyja, you did apt-get install edubuntu-desktop (or something similar)
[11:54] <kyja> nope
[11:54] <DJGummik1h> can you read NTFS drives with ubuntu live cd?
[11:55] <dawg^> DJGummik1h, not likely.
[11:55] <kyja> ahh I did a search in synaptic
[11:55] <kyja> I installed edubuntu artwork and splash screen. guess I solved my problem
[11:55] <DJGummik1h> dawg^: hmm thanx
[11:56] <dawg^> DJGummik1h, you can access any drive, as hardware, but actually reading NTFS without compiling it into the kernal is less than likely.
[11:56] <Answer> HEllo, I can't get sound to work.  When I run alsamixer there is only option for an invalid usb audio capture device.  The real sound card is the second device in /proc/asound/cards.  Any suggestions?
[11:57] <Chandan> hi, I want to know what procedure ubuntu is following to build a distro .. Iam working on building a distro based on debian .. I was working on anaconda installer for debian .. but now I want to shift into debian installer G-I , How do I do that
[11:57] <DJGummik1h> dawg^: hmm I just thought that ubuntu had every possibility already compiled into the livecd perhaps :)
[11:57] <dawg^> well, it didn't work for me anyway ;)
[11:58] <dawg^> had to install ubuntu, download the relevent package, and mount the partition manually
[12:02] <kyja> E: flashplugin-nonfree: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[12:03] <kyja> ever since an update the other day :/
[12:03] <jerb> try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:03] <Answer> Hello, my sound won't play and there are two cards in /proc/asound/cards, but the first one is invalid and it only shows up as usb capture in alsamixer.  How can I activate the second card, or remove the first one?
[12:05] <printk> Answer: if you go to System->Preferences->Sound can you change to "working" sound card there?
[12:05] <kyja> wow I will try thx jerb
[12:05] <mike> I got a message from Wine that says "HEY, WE GOT A BIG PROBLEM HERE"
[12:06] <mike> trying to play diablo 2
[12:06] <kyja> jerb, sadly it gives same message
[12:06] <mike> how do i make a log to send to winehq?
[12:06] <kyja> I will uninstall and retry
[12:07] <Answer> printk: I am not running graphically and there is no monitor...
[12:07] <Answer> I tried modprobe -r snd_usb_audio but it says the device is in use...
[12:08] <mike> is there anyone here that can help???
[12:09] <Tigers-fnozzke> if u already have ubuntu on a computer, it is able to install winxp/2000 then?
[12:09] <mike> why?
[12:09] <printk> Tigers-fnozzke: just need free space, sure
[12:09] <Answer> Tigers-fnozzke: I had win first and ubuntu autorecognized it and installed grub.  if you have ubuntu first, there is little change windows will handle it gracefully
[12:10] <Answer> *little chance
[12:10] <Tigers-fnozzke> oki
[12:10] <Answer> it's better to have windows first and let ubuntu handle it than trying to make windows dual boot
[12:10] <Tigers-fnozzke> i know;P but I want to know the other way -,-
[12:11] <printk> just install windows
[12:11] <printk> then you'll use a live cd to reinstall grub
[12:11] <printk> not that hard
[12:11] <printk> Answer: install alsa-tools and that should give you alsaconf
[12:11] <printk> see if you can change your card with that
[12:11] <mike> Hello?
[12:11] <Answer> printk: I installed alsa-tools and I can't figure out how to run alsa-tools or alsaconf
[12:12] <mike> Am I even showing up on this thing?
[12:12] <Answer> printk: apt-get install alsa-tools;  alsa-tools is already the newest version.
[12:12] <mike> Does anyone know anything about wine?
[12:12] <elkbuntu> mike, you are but it seems nobody knows the answer
[12:12] <printk> mike: little, never used it to play diablo 2 tho
[12:12] <Answer> mike, we can see you typing.  you should search the web for diablo and ubuntu
[12:13] <mike> how do i send error reports... does anyone know?
[12:13] <mike> tried.
[12:13] <Schalken> how do i change the user of a file?
[12:13] <mike> thanks for telling me that i can be seen though
[12:13] <mike> i wasn't too sure there
[12:13] <Schalken> i mean
[12:13] <Schalken> owner
[12:13] <printk> Answer: ok type asoundcard list
[12:13] <Answer> printk: when I run "asoundconf list" it shows the two cards, I wish to get rid of the first one or activate the second one
[12:14] <printk> do asoundconf set-default-card CARD
[12:14] <printk> the one that you want as default
[12:14] <Answer> man how do u find this parameter?
[12:14] <Schalken> how do i change the owner of a file?
[12:14] <printk> i just ran asoundconf by itself :)
[12:15] <printk> and it displayed help for me
[12:15] <printk> :)
[12:15] <Answer> huh I must have the wrong version?
[12:15] <printk> Schalken: chown <user> file
[12:15] <printk> Answer: oh i';m on edgy... yah could be
[12:15] <printk> Answer: did the syntax i give you work?
[12:15] <Answer> # asoundconf set-default-card rev50;  just displayed Usage:
[12:15] <Answer> alsamixer still only shows the first entry
[12:16] <printk> yah yah probably have a diff version
[12:16] <ikonia> Caps, are any of you doing a mass deployment method for ubntu, such as kickstart ?
[12:16] <Werdna> ~tell me about dualboot
[12:16] <ikonia> chaps that should read
[12:16] <Werdna> dammit.. no factoid bot in here either
[12:16] <Answer> it does not make sense because the first card shows up under playback, but it is capture only (mic)
[12:16] <Answer> ubotu
[12:16] <Answer> !ubotu
[12:16] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[12:16] <Answer> !ubotu tell Werdna about ubotu
[12:16] <Answer> !ubotu tell Werdna about dualboot
[12:16] <Answer> !dualboot
[12:16] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[12:17] <Answer> voila
[12:17] <Answer> printk: so um how do I upgrade asoundconf to your version
[12:17] <printk> Answer: well i'm runny ubuntu edgy
[12:17] <printk> s/runny/running
[12:18] <printk> you can do it with your version... just not sure the parameters heh
[12:18] <printk> is there an alsa on the wiki?
[12:18] <printk> !alsa
[12:18] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:18] <Answer> I have read everything on the wiki on alsa project itself everywhere :/
[12:21] <Answer> printk: I upgraded package alsa-utils and now I see set-default-card option
[12:21] <printk> ok sweet
[12:21] <printk> does it work now? :)
[12:22] <Answer> well, now the alsamixer shows master and pcm and the right chipset under playback
[12:22] <printk> and volume is up and main is unmuted?
[12:23] <Answer> printk: yeah the infinity symbol is there not MM
[12:23] <xopher> What do I need to do so that updating the kernel wont update my grub's menu.lst?
[12:23] <Answer> aplay does not return error anymore either
[12:23] <Answer> it was aplay: main:544: audio open error: No such file or directory
[12:24] <krpano> talking about sound.....my builtin speakers still play sounds even if i connect the headphones...:(
[12:24] <Answer> xopher: if you update the kernel but you dont update grub it wont boot, right?
[12:24] <Answer> krpano: go into alsa mixer and mute the output except Headphones
[12:24] <printk> Answer: cool, do you have speakers to test sound?
[12:24] <xopher> Answer, it will if I do it manually
[12:25] <krpano> Answer...ill check that
[12:25] <Answer> printk: yes there is a speaker hooked up, but it is a couple miles away at the office... I am pretty sure it works if aplay works.  thanks
[12:25] <cpk1> if you do dist-upgrade it edits the grub for you
[12:25] <printk> Answer: awsome
[12:26] <Answer> printk: crap it still gives that error when i run as normal user.. it only works as root.  and i changed all the permissions on /dev/snd
[12:27] <Answer> aplay: main:544: audio open error: No such file or directory
[12:27] <krpano> Answer..how do i access the Alsa Mixer ?....you mean Volume Control ?
[12:27] <printk> but it workes as root?
[12:27] <printk> is your user in the audio group?
[12:28] <RedGhost> Whats the easiest way to view your hardware (CPU, type, speed, ram, type ... etc)?
[12:28] <printk> RedGhost: probably dmesg? :)
[12:28] <printk> and going through some files in /proc ... there is probably an easier way though
[12:28] <jpjacobs> RedGhost, lshw
[12:29] <jpjacobs> RedGhost, or if you want more info: dmidecode|less
[12:29] <jpjacobs> that's as root
[12:30] <Answer> krpano: type in "alsamixer"
[12:30] <Answer> printk: hmm user in the audio group?
[12:31] <Gonzo> seriously what is the go with the flahs plugin
[12:31] <Gonzo> is there any way to tell macromedia to open the sources so that someone fixes it?
[12:31] <Gonzo> it obviously have issues
[12:31] <Gonzo> has
[12:31] <RedGhost> lshw was the best, thanks, dmidecode|less as root just showed End and kind of froze
[12:31] <Answer> printk: yes, the default user is in /etc/group:audio:29
[12:33] <jpjacobs> RedGhost, i think that's because sudo needs the pass first, and that won't work through the pipe ;)
[12:33] <Answer> printk: oh I had to run asoundconf set-default-card again as that user.  what good is root then
[12:33] <wickedpuppy> root is good for rm -rf /
[12:34] <krpano> Answer... is it normal that i dont have that option to mute the output except headphones ?
[12:34] <hombre> How do i use pastebin?
[12:34] <Answer> krpano: turn down the PCM volume and leave Headphones up
[12:34] <RedGhost> This is my first time using Linux outside of vmware, I installed a dual boot on my new laptop, I have to say took a bit to iron out some bugs with the drivers and etc but its running amazingly well, using 50% less ram than with the same kind of applications with Windows and my laptop is generating almost no heat
[12:35] <wickedpuppy> hombre, you just paste things onto the page ... and show us the link
[12:35] <Answer> krpano: I have channels  Maser, Maser Mono, Headphones, PCM, Line, CD, Mic, Mic Boost, Video, Phone, PC Speaker....
[12:35] <krpano> i have no headphones option....even if i check the preferences it only display Master / PCM / Capture
[12:35] <whitt> any phlak users?
[12:35] <whitt> hello
[12:36] <Answer> krpano: are your headphones plugged into the computer's soundcard or into the speakers?
[12:36] <wickedpuppy> what is phlak may i ask ? never heard of it ...
[12:36] <krpano> they are plugged into the computer
[12:36] <whitt> its a linux distro
[12:37] <krpano> seems i am missing some options for the Alsa
[12:37] <Answer> krpano: I dunno maybe you could find a better driver for your soundcard.  does it say the chipset at the top of alsamixer or does it say generic soundcard
[12:37] <krpano> yes
[12:37] <wickedpuppy> then isn't it better to ask in their chan ? not that i m asking you to leave ... but thats my suggestion ...
[12:37] <deep> Anyone know something about the apacheserver?
[12:37] <krpano> HDA intel
[12:37] <hombre> Ok, my problem is with the Sagem Adsl fast 800 modem, make command returns error, i have build essentials istalled. PASTEBIN http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24372
[12:37] <Answer> krpano: hit F5 to show all controls
[12:37] <RedGhost> I bought an acer 5102 and all the reviews/tests including from linux laptops said creating a dual boot or even installing ubuntu was next to impossible
[12:37] <RedGhost> It was easy as hell :x
[12:38] <krpano> Answer....nothing more will appear....maybe because its a notebook...i wont get all the funtions for this hadware ?
[12:38] <Answer> krpano: yeah it is probably build into the motherboard?
[12:39] <krpano> maybe
[12:39] <Answer> krpano: you have graphical?  install alsamixergui
[12:39] <Answer> maybe htere are more options out of the command line
[12:39] <det> I was going to try knot-3 and noticed it is over 700MB and I can't burn it on my current media :)
[12:39] <hombre> Sagem Adsl fast 800 modem, make command returns error, i have build essentials istalled i`m very new and frustrated . Please help! PASTEBIN http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24372
[12:40] <krpano> Answer...i tried the alsamixergui too...
[12:40] <Answer> krpano: no idea then...
[12:40] <krpano> dont worry....thx anyway..:)
[12:41] <Answer> hombre: the error message says "URB_ASYNC_UNLINK" is undeclared in /tmp/eagle-usb/eagle-usb-src/driver/eu_main.c:950.  declare it
[12:42] <wickedpuppy> en Answer ... i don't think we are going to ask the users to hack the source ...
[12:42] <Answer> krpano: alsamixer --version:  1.0.10
[12:42] <hombre> well thats easyer sad then done., i dont know anything about these things, sorry
[12:42] <Answer> lol ok
[12:42] <wickedpuppy> hombre, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-45974.html
[12:42] <Answer> you got the source code and tried to compile it tho
[12:42] <Answer> pretty good
[12:42] <wickedpuppy> have you seen it ?
[12:43] <krpano> Answer....yeah, im using that same version...oh well
[12:43] <wickedpuppy> moral of the story is usb modems aren't linux friendly ...
[12:43] <krpano> ill wait some future update will fix this for me
[12:43] <wickedpuppy> blame the manufacturers for the lack of linux drivers
[12:46] <hombre> i have installed ubuntu 2 months ago. I does not work. I hate to admit it but i don`t know where to start.The whole thing is built around the internet connection whic i dont have. Thank you for your help.
[12:47] <wickedpuppy> hombre, if i may say something ... did you try out the live cd before installing ?
[12:47] <FRET> hey all
[12:49] <Corporal_Dirge> Does Ubuntu/Linux have some sort of scheduler?
[12:49] <wickedpuppy> Corporal_Dirge, cron ?
[12:49] <hombre> the live cd doesn`t tell you about dependencies/download/packages/programing your video card/soft modem problems/hard modem problems,etc...
[12:49] <hombre> had them all
[12:50] <wickedpuppy> hombre, ok :P
[12:51] <hombre> i`m sorry
[12:51] <hombre> it`s not anybodys fault
[12:51] <hombre> thanx for helping
[12:51] <wickedpuppy> wait
[12:51] <wickedpuppy> do a favor for us ... complain to the modem company about it
[12:51] <finalbeta> Did you ask on the forums?
[12:52] <wickedpuppy> more customers complain about it , the better ... make some noise :P
[12:52] <hombre> i dont know whic forum to go, too many to complicated, keywords return archives.
[12:52] <finalbeta> yeah, I need to look where to mail, or write ATi about there drivers.
[12:53] <finalbeta> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=136
[12:53] <finalbeta> lot's of people have modem problems, so perhaps you can even find someone who solved it for you.
[12:54] <mnepton> arr.
[12:54] <hombre> i` will browse through, thanx
[12:54] <damousys> does anyone knows how i can show all installed programs installed with apt-get
[12:55] <mnepton> damousys: apt-cache search installed
[12:55] <damousys> owke relaxed very easy
[12:55] <mnepton> uhhh ... yeah.
[12:55] <Samuli^> hombre, one thing you could do is install the live-dvd or check if there's a repository dvd available.
[12:57] <THX-1138_> World of Warcraft font distortion. - Did i install the wrong font, any ideas?
[12:58] <wickedpuppy> playing WoW in wine ?
[12:58] <THX-1138_> wickedpuppy - cedega same difference.
[12:58] <wickedpuppy> i see ....perhaps the fonts are windows fonts ?
[12:58] <Uberpussy> THX-1138_: I had same issue, changing res helps
[12:59] <damousys> yah what do i need to install to get windows fonts
[12:59] <Loungefly> Just wanting to get some feedback... I know UCK and Reconstructor are available, but is there any way to create a liveCD of a current install in Ubuntu? The way mklivecd is able to etc
[12:59] <hombre> Samuli^: i have installed ubuntu 2 monts ago. I have a live cd, and thats all. There isn`t much on it. and i insstalled everything from it
[01:00] <Samuli^> hombre, I was talking about live-DVD.
[01:00] <THX-1138_> That sounds about right uber. - looks like i didn't set it right. to narrow by a millimeter or two.
[01:00] <hombre> Samuli^: I know, i dont have one
[01:00] <THX-1138_> Going to give it a try. - Thank You for your help.
[01:00] <Samuli^> hombre, download it ;)
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> how many hours would the dvd take on a cable modem?
[01:02] <ikonia> how quicks your link
[01:02] <ikonia> what server do you go to download
[01:02] <ikonia> whats the contention
[01:02] <ikonia> is there any network traffic
[01:02] <wickedpuppy> how many hours would it take for gentoo to compile from stage 1 ?
[01:02] <ikonia> etc
[01:02] <ikonia> too much to ask
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> I dont know, it is a neoghbors cable modem
[01:03] <ikonia> well, your looking at about 5 hours - 6 hours
[01:03] <Loungefly> hmm, I'll take that as a no then :P
[01:03] <hombre> Samuli^: Hmm, thats a nice tought :) will it solve my problems? It`s hard to tell.
[01:03] <ikonia> based on an average connection and average contention
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> ikonia: I was just lookng for a ballpark anyhow.. thanks
[01:03] <dawg^> divide the footprint of the OS by the upstream limit of the connection
[01:03] <dawg^> bosh
 how many hours would the dvd take on a cable modem? >> 10 minutes for me?
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> ikonia: I am aware of the variables...
[01:04] <ikonia> super
[01:04] <ikonia> I'd guess 5 -6 hours
[01:04] <ikonia> although you could bit torrent it and try to get it from multiple sources
[01:04] <ikonia> could reduce it
[01:04] <Samuli^> Hombre, I'm quite sure there is nvidia and ati-binaries on the dvd for example.
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> I can still see my old 300 baud modem sitting on my antique shelf from where I am sitting..
[01:04] <finalbeta> lol
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Vic-20
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Not joking either
[01:06] <mnepton> Jack_Sparrow: prod me when you have punch cards.
[01:06] <ikonia> I still have a vic 20 and cmb 64
[01:06] <hombre> SAmuli^: I will try, thanx!
[01:06] <dawg^> comb64!
[01:06] <ikonia> I took some of the games off my 1541 disk drive in an attempt to make them into images for cbm 64
[01:06] <lupine_85> ah, but will it run ubuntu? ;)
[01:06] <finalbeta> I used to have 56k Internet myself. But I never used internet then, it was to slow, only started using it when I got my cable modem.
[01:06] <ulinskie> does anybody have a pdf of the ubuntu for non geeks book?
[01:06] <ikonia> what image application can be used to view/edit svg files ?
[01:06] <lupine_85> Inkscape!
[01:06] <mnepton> ulinskie: there's a free chapter online.
[01:06] <lupine_85> !inscape
[01:06] <ikonia> gimp doesn't seem too happy
[01:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inscape - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> ikonia: do you still have the cable you used?
[01:07] <lupine_85> !inkscape
[01:07] <ubotu> Inkscape is a powerful vector graphics drawing application - see http://www.inkscape.org/ for more
[01:07] <lupine_85> it's amazing, and it's in the repos
[01:07] <ikonia> downloading - thanks
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> lupine_85: does it also read dxf's
[01:09] <lupine_85> no idea, sorry
[01:09] <lupine_85> hang on I'll check
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> I would assume it does since it handles vector graphics
[01:10] <Morrowyn> how come ubuntu doesnt support wpa for wlans?
[01:10] <Morrowyn> i mean, i thought ubuntu was desktop ready
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !wpa
[01:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:11] <BeBraw> is there a graphical tool to configure multiple screens for ubuntu?
[01:11] <SillyZ> fmoeninf
[01:11] <lupine_85> Morrowyn: it does :)
[01:11] <SillyZ> gmorning even   ... hehe no cofffee yyet
[01:11] <Morrowyn> hmmm, ubuntu looks nice, but it just takes too much time to get basic stuff configged
[01:11] <lupine_85> at least, it does where the drivers support it
[01:11] <mnepton> Morrowyn: such as?
[01:12] <lupine_85> 2 minutes, literally
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Morrowyn: Some things cannot be added into the distrobution and must be added by the end user. MP3 support is a classic point
[01:12] <mnepton> Morrowyn: Ubuntu most defintiely does support WPA. i'm using it now.
[01:12] <lupine_85> on that (mp3) point, if you want it faster, you could always buy an mp3 license for the ubuntu foundation? ;)
[01:12] <Morrowyn> well wpa for instance, i actually need to use wep or no key at all for my wlan in order to make ubuntu work, which is annoying
[01:12] <lastnode> WPA is to do with your wifi card and drivers, not ubuntu per se
[01:13] <mnepton> Morrowyn: only because you haven't reserached the problem at all.
[01:13] <lupine_85> wifi card / chipset is...?
[01:13] <mnepton> Morrowyn: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[01:13] <lupine_85> er, yuck :p
[01:13] <Morrowyn> sorry i dont have time for research, it feels like going back to the stone age
[01:13] <Morrowyn> especially for basis wifi stuff
[01:13] <Morrowyn> basis/basic
[01:13] <lupine_85> enjoy
[01:14] <mnepton> or, if you don't want to do that, you can manually set up wpa_supplicant, /etc/network/interfaces, etc etc
[01:14] <BeBraw> has someone got ati system with multiple screens (different resolutions) working?
[01:14] <mnepton> Morrowyn: sorry, having my computer controlled by Albanian spammers because i clicked a URL in an e-mail feels "like going back to the stone age"
[01:14] <Code-E> !tell Code-E about codecs
[01:15] <mnepton> Morrowyn: but equating "i'm too lazy" with "Ubuntu is not ready for the desktop" is a stretch.
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Morrowyn: Remember the first time you installed MS WIndows ... No learning curve there at all either right, no drivers to install nothing..
[01:16] <maksoud> Hi all
[01:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Goodmorning and welcome
[01:16] <maksoud> I am looking for help regarding ubuntu
[01:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[01:16] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:17] <lupine_85> hello fiona :)
[01:17] <Morrowyn> well basically, when i installed windows the first time, like 10 years ago, things were different, times has changed. When i install osx or xp. and install a driver, stuff just works
[01:17] <cyberfr0g> hey
[01:17] <ziro01> Hello
[01:17] <lupine_85> "when I install a driver"...
[01:17] <ziro01> tell me
[01:17] <cyberfr0g> ?
[01:17] <Morrowyn> no hassle there. but when i enter linuxland (which i reside in since redhat 5.2) you do have to rtfm, spend more time in it
[01:17] <BeBraw> Morrowyn: on linux you just compile driver to kernel
[01:17] <Morrowyn> and the sad thing is, you still have to
[01:18] <lupine_85> usually dson't have to even do that - the driver's already there
[01:18] <mnepton> Morrowyn: so you've been using Linux since RH5.2, but Ubuntu is "difficult?"
[01:18] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[01:18] <Morrowyn> did i say "difficult" ?
[01:18] <Morrowyn> i reme,ber me saying i dont have time
[01:18] <Morrowyn> i have better things to do , like work
[01:18] <lupine_85> then just set up the network settings - which you'd have to do in XP anyway, unless it autodetects the PSK - and you're away
[01:18] <lupine_85> IMO, linux is faster in that respect
[01:18] <Morrowyn> and i dont want to spend 2 hours fiddling with apt-get etc.etc.
[01:19] <mnepton> Morrowyn: so install network-manager-gnome
[01:19] <maksoud> I want to install ubuntu. I downloaded the ubuntu cd and ran ubuntu from the live cd. I connect to the internet through my wireless card. Although ubuntu detected the card and I defined the network, it does not connect to the internet.. any suggestions?
[01:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Morrowyn: But you do have time for anti-virus, anti-spyware,anti-adware, questionabgle updates and reinstallation
[01:19] <Morrowyn> lol, to be honest
[01:20] <Yaakov> It would be silly to suggest that hardware support in Linux, any distribution, is as good as Windows.  Linux has strengths but compared to Windows, that isn't one of them.  Several distributions of Linux are MUCH better at hardware than in the past, and it is getting even better all the time, but Windows has the market--and so the hardware support.
[01:20] <dawg^> maksoud, are you able to ping a web address?
[01:20] <Morrowyn> i only have an antivirus installed because certain ppl send virus in there email, apart from that i never really bothered
[01:20] <maksoud> dawg^: no
[01:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Morrowyn: Put in a little time and effort and you will have something even better than you had before.. or continue to rent your OS from MS
[01:20] <dawg^> maksoud, is your router connected for sure?
[01:21] <Morrowyn> but that mainly speaking for windows xp, and double clicking an icon is different then spending time reading an article that explains how to get it wokring
[01:21] <maksoud> dawg^: yes, I am talking to you through the same computer but in windows
[01:21] <Morrowyn> nah, i rather stick with my osx box frankly
[01:21] <dawg^> is it a broadcom wireless card?
[01:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Morrowyn: Do you have a question for the help room or just comments... We do have an offtopic room
[01:21] <stefg> maksoud: Can you ping a server by IP (e.g. ping 64.233.173.210) ? If so it is a DNS problem
[01:22] <maksoud> I am not sure what is broadcom..
[01:22] <_Roman> When I have a nautilus window open (ie. my home folder), I use the little triangles on the left of folders to open them (kind of like a tree view), however when I select a folder and then select FILE | CREATE FOLDER it always creates the new folder in the top most level (same happens for creating a new file).  Is there any way to change this behaviour?
[01:22] <Yaakov> A competent Windows user is no more likely to be compromised than a competent Linux user.  MOST users, unfortunately, are not competent.  Among the OSs I run regularly, I have used Windows since 1.0 (though I sure didn't use that for much!)--I have never had a machine compromised.
[01:22] <Morrowyn> but then again, thats just me ranting for wasting time on basic stuff
[01:22] <maksoud> stefg: I did not try that.. I tried to ping my router though and dud not work
[01:22] <maksoud> did not work*
[01:23] <stefg> maksoud: Ok, that already says that it's not a DNS problem ...
[01:23] <Yaakov> Anyway, Linux has it's OWN merits that don't need to be seen in the light of Windows' weaknesses to be valuable.
[01:23] <lupine_85> maksoud: in that case the wireless link isn't working. do you have any sort of encryption?
[01:24] <maksoud> lupine_85: yes, there is a password and I entered it.. and also the staic ip
[01:24] <Yaakov> Morrowyn: There is value in fighting with the details of Linux.
[01:24] <Morrowyn> yup
[01:24] <Morrowyn> i agree with that
[01:24] <Yaakov> Morrowyn: But there is also FreeBSD, and if you like OS X that might be a nice route.
[01:25] <Morrowyn> i run a freebsd server for 5 years
[01:25] <Loungefly> does anyone here know much about remastering?
[01:25] <Morrowyn> which is good for a server, but it sucks for desktopping
[01:25] <Yaakov> Morrowyn: If you haven't tried it on the desktop in a while, you might.
[01:25] <stefg> maksoud: what happens if you 'sudo dhclient' ?
[01:25] <Yaakov> Morrowyn: It has improved.
[01:25] <lupine_85> is it WEP?
[01:25] <lupine_85> (if so, ascii keys need "s:" prefixing to them - at least if setting them up in CLI)
[01:26] <maksoud> stefg: I did not try that... I can try it and come back and tell you what happens
[01:26] <Morrowyn> well it doesnt run maya and shake, so not going to waste time on that, already did that
[01:26] <Samuli^> Loungefly, why?
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Loungefly: Enought to know ther are few full point and click full remastering programs.  There are some tweakers like reconstructor, but full remastering takes some work.  There are tutorials in the wiki
[01:26] <Yaakov> So far Unbutu is the distribution I would recommend to a Linux beginner.  Nice installation, great package manager, excellent documentation and helpful users.
[01:27] <stefg> maksoud: yes, if everything else fails. I'd check lupine_85 's suggestion first if there's something wrong with WEP
[01:27] <Yaakov> SuSe is good, too--but I prefer the Debian roots of Ubuntu and the lack of Novell.
[01:27] <Morrowyn> yup its good. I just dislike hunting dependencies, which take a lot of your time, especially the lack of docs of certain libs
[01:27] <maksoud> ok see u in a bit
[01:27] <Loungefly> ahh, ok. Just wondering if there is anyway to make a liveCD of a currently installed Ubuntu, in the way that mkliveCD is able to.. rather than basing it on an standard iso
[01:28] <Morrowyn> i used suse 6.4 once, was good experience, never tried suse then
[01:28] <Yaakov> 10.1 is very nice, and has Xgl if you have the hardware.
[01:28] <Morrowyn> i switched to slackware , which made me learn a lot of linux
[01:28] <Morrowyn> i run xgl on ubuntu
[01:29] <Morrowyn> but stopped using it, the effects are nice, but work also as a distraction
[01:29] <lupine_85> Jack_Sparrow: bit late, but yes it does support dxf :)
[01:29] <Yaakov> I prefer fluxbox, usually, but use Kubuntu on my laptop at the moment.
[01:30] <stefg> I have s a strange problem with shutting down out of Gnome here... i click the shutdown-button (or choose the menu-entry) and nothing happens.  But after 2 or so minutes suddenly the exit dialog-box appears. Anyone else experiencing  that?
[01:30] <Jack_Sparrow> People, this channel is soon to be very busy with people that LIKE Ubuntu and have questions to be answered.  Please move the discussions to Ubuntu-offtopic
[01:31] <Yaakov> Jack_Sparrow: I was about to say that.
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> lupine_85: Thanks.. great.. I'll check it out
[01:31] <stefg> That's only temporary, say 1 of 5 attempts
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[01:32] <lupine_85> inkscape+++ :D
[01:32] <Loungefly> hmm, so nothing similar to mkliveCD available for Ubuntu?
[01:33] <stefg> Loungefly: i vaguely remember having read about something like that on the net... try google
[01:33] <Morrowyn> i have an ibook , i used fluxbox on older laptop, heck i even used phoenix as webbrowser, because i needed a lightwieght browser
[01:33] <Morrowyn> is the sylpheed email client still alive nowadays?
[01:33] <stefg> !info sylpheed-claw
[01:33] <ubotu> Package sylpheed-claw does not exist in any distro I know
[01:33] <stefg> !info sylpheed-claws
[01:34] <ubotu> sylpheed-claws: Extended version of the Sylpheed mail client. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.5-2 (dapper), package size 871 kB, installed size 2048 kB
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Morrowyn: What part of take it to the other room did you not understand.  For a guy that dosent have time to learn you seem to have a lot of time to complain
[01:34] <stefg> ...ouch...
[01:34] <atla> hi
[01:35] <atla> someone got nvidia opengl performance issues since ubuntu update yesterday?
[01:35] <Loungefly> yep I've googled and haven't had much luck. So far I've only come across Reconstructor and UCK :( Just thought there might be something available I've overlooked
[01:36] <lakbu> hi
[01:36] <lakbu> help
[01:36] <dahsjkhda> How do you configure apt-get to work though a proxy with a password?
[01:36] <lakbu> i cant make my broadcom 4306 wireless card on my Ubuntu dapper on Dell
[01:36] <lakbu> :(
[01:36] <stefg> Loungefly: http://www.atworkonline.it/~bibe/ubuntu/custom-livecd.htm is the top hit in google
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> lakbu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[01:37] <stefg> Loungefly: educate your searching skills, i suggest
[01:37] <lakbu> thanks
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:37] <Masqy> hi guys, How can I check which font does the defualt gnome installation uses? I'd like to use rxvt with those fonts. So far with no success...
[01:37] <Morrowyn> oh, sorry i didnt see your op status?
[01:38] <Masqy> when I try the freesans, I get enormous spacing between characters. Any experience?
[01:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Morrowyn: Feel safe because you dont see any ops... ?
[01:38] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[01:39] <stefg> There /are/ cloaks, yes indeed
[01:39] <Keddie> synaptic package manager won't load for me anymore. I tried to reinstall it with apt-get, but it says it is the newest version already
[01:39] <atla> how can i revert a dist-upgrade?
[01:39] <stefg> Keddie: what message do you get if you type 'sudo synaptic' in a terminal?
[01:39] <Loungefly> uh, stefg, my searching skills aren't lacking. I've seen that info before. That's not what I'm after
[01:40] <Loungefly> jeez
[01:40] <Keddie> stefg, synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:41] <Crazed> OH YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
[01:41] <Keddie> stefg, so it looks like I need to install that file
[01:41] <stefg> !info libvte
[01:41] <ubotu> Package libvte does not exist in any distro I know
[01:41] <Crazed> hrm
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Crazed: Have a question or just finding this channel bring you that much joy
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Keddie: I must ask... Have you run scripts like Automatix, (NOT recommending that you do.) to install anything?
[01:43] <Crazed> hehe Jack_Sparrow this time I just dunno was like lets say something no question :) sry
[01:43] <stefg> Keddie: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libvte-common  libvte4
[01:43] <Masqy> how can I find out which font is the "System Default" in my ubuntu installation?
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:43] <Keddie> Jack_Sparrow, yes, easyubuntu, but it worked after the install, just stopped one day
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Keddie: The new easyU isnt too bad but the earlier one came back to bite a few people well after the original installation
[01:44] <Keddie> stefg, Reinstallation of libvte4 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[01:45] <stefg> Keddie: that points towards your /etc/apt/sources.list is borked ...
[01:45] <stefg> !easysource
[01:45] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Keddie: MAke a backup ..  sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/sources.list.backup
[01:48] <stefg> so noone here is experiencing strange delays with the exit dialog showing up when shutting down from gnome?
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Not me...
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> stefg: and the fact that is not consistent.. really odd
[01:51] <stefg> I cant't even figure out where to look... System monitor says no hanging zombies, CPU usage at 13%, hd is idle, no cronjob running. What else could i check?
[01:51] <finalbeta> stefg, you mean that you press the logout button, and the dialog doesn't come right away?
[01:52] <stefg> finalbeta: right... only after 2 minutes or so, when i forgot that i clicked the button
[01:52] <jpjacobs> stefg, tried checking top?
[01:52] <finalbeta> Ohw, I was thinking 5 seconds was a long time ;)
[01:52] <stefg> jpjacobs: yup, nothing of particular interest there
[01:53] <stefg> Hmmm, could that be related to hal or dbus ?
[01:53] <Yaakov> stefg: I would have to guess, but my guess would be that the shutdown is _waiting_ for something, probably not doing anything.
[01:54] <ahfeel> hi guys, anybody know where i can find some documentation to give my package a configuration wizard at the end of installation ?
[01:54] <stefg> Yaakov: sounds reasonable... the question is: wtf is it waiting for? :-)
[01:54] <ahfeel> i heard about debconf but didn't found any tuto and the man isn't really self explanatory
[01:56] <Yaakov> stefg: Is this new behavior?
[01:56] <stefg> Yaakov: yup. Last thing i did was installing the new nvidia-glx... hmmm...
[01:57] <Yaakov> I suspect that the delay is in waiting for some object to handle a shutdown method call (or some similar idea.)
[01:58] <xipietotec> how do I open .tgz packagages from terminal? I need to extract something to the filesystem
[01:58] <jrib> xipietotec: tar zxvf file.tar.gz
[01:59] <stefg> Yaakov: that brings me to an idea... i can't really use the stock-kernel, because a bug in it makes my box wait for 30 seconds at startup, so i run a 2.6.17 with the con kolivas patches (which affect the _scheduler_ ). Let me try if this is reproducible with the stock 2.6.15-26 . nvidia-glx might have an effect on that
[02:00] <Crazed> Jack_Sparrow: do you have any clue why I can't edit my menu's in ubuntu ..
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> stefg: I wonder if running something that used the nvidia-glx like glxgears you make your pc hang on exit each time...  then that would help identify the problem...
[02:00] <Crazed> I get some python error ..
[02:00] <stefg> goog point
[02:00] <stefg> *good
[02:00] <xipietotec> w00t, thanks =)
[02:00] <Masqy> Does anyone here use rxvt?
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Crazed: Can you paste the error (Short version)
[02:01] <Crazed> just making the error 1 mom :D
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Crazed: What program are you running?
[02:02] <Crazed> just alacarte
[02:02] <Crazed> the stock program ;)
[02:02] <maksoud> I tried sudo dhclient
[02:02] <jrib> maksoud: sometimes, but what is your real question? :)
[02:02] <jrib> Masqy: sometimes, but what is your real question? :)
[02:02] <dejv_> hi
[02:03] <dejv_> does somebody here build git kernel?
[02:03] <otaku515> I downloaded the source files for the Bitchx IRC client for linux but I dont understand how to use them and how to compile them so I can use the client
[02:03] <rukuartic> Hey all, is preload a good idea to run if I've got half a gig of memory and with no apps running have about 360 mb to space?
[02:03] <Crazed> hrm
[02:03] <Masqy> jrib: which font do u use it with? how do u make it use the "Sans 10" font? it displays it so wide, not as in the XTerm application
[02:03] <jrib> otaku515: bitchx is available in the universe repository.  Just enable universe and then use system > administration > synaptic to install it
[02:03] <maksoud> My network is not working after checking the WEP and all the other required details
[02:03] <jrib> !universe > otaku515
[02:03] <stefg> rukuartic: i think preload is default for dapper anyway
[02:03] <otaku515> !universe
[02:04] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:04] <jrib> Masqy: do you know about the ~/.Xdefaults file?
[02:04] <otaku515> I am a linux newbie xd
[02:04] <rukuartic> stefg: I don't think so, I used the dapper install CD and its not in dpkg -l
[02:04] <dejv_> !git
[02:04] <ubotu> git: GNU Interactive Tools, a file browser/viewer and process viewer/killer. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3.20-8 (dapper), package size 251 kB, installed size 964 kB
[02:04] <otaku515> just installed Ubuntu today
[02:04] <rukuartic> otaku515: Yay! Welcome.
[02:04] <otaku515> so I am pretty clueless
[02:04] <Crazed> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24376
[02:04] <stefg> !info preload
[02:04] <ubotu> preload: an adaptive readahead daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 31 kB, installed size 172 kB
[02:04] <dejv_> !git-core
[02:04] <ubotu> git-core: content addressable filesystem. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.3-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1741 kB, installed size 4164 kB
[02:04] <otaku515> trying to learn it xd
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[02:04] <Masqy> jrub: yes, I pass it font argumets, but it displays it too wide
[02:04] <Masqy> jrib: which do u pass?
[02:05] <stefg> rukuartic: you're right... it's universe. Mixed that up with gnome-preload
[02:05] <jrib> otaku515: that's ok, ubotu should have sent you the information about enabling universe.  Did you get it?
[02:05] <maksoud> I am using UBUNTU live CD. I am connecting to the internet through a wireless card. It does not connect. Any suggestions?
[02:05] <otaku515> jrib? I really dont understand what you mean with the Universe something
[02:05] <otaku515> where can I find that
[02:05] <jrib> Masqy: I use: URxvt*font:                     xft:Bitstream Vera Sans mono:size=10:antialias=true
[02:05] <otaku515> is it inside linux?
[02:05] <jrib> Masqy: I use urxvt but you would change that to whatever rxvt you are using
[02:05] <stefg> maksoud: what did sudo dhclient give you?
[02:06] <rukuartic> stefg: Thats not installed either :P
[02:06] <jrib> otaku515: did you receive a private message from ubotu?
[02:06] <Crazed> already gave my self permissions now (using chown) Jack_Sparrow (trying again) :P
[02:06] <snowblink> maksoud, can you connect to you router?
[02:06] <otaku515> yes
[02:06] <otaku515> I did
[02:06] <Masqy> jrib: 10x alot.. I just needed the 'mono' option...
[02:07] <Crazed> hmm think the permissions got messed up using alacarte with sudo ..
[02:07] <rukuartic> maksoud: Even better, is your wireless card recognized? Open up a prompt and type "iwconfig"
[02:07] <Crazed> cause get alot of permissions errors now :(
[02:07] <mywltm> hi, apt-get upgrade says, that several kernel-related packages will be held back. however the update-icon in the panel says there are updates available. any ideas?
[02:07] <jrib> otaku515: great, those links explain all about universe and how to enable it.  Just come back and ask any more questions you have in case something isn't clear in those documents
[02:07] <maksoud> stefg: It listened and sent packages to both the wireless and the ethernet cards. then DHCPDISCOVERed through the same cards and found no lease
[02:07] <otaku515> ok
[02:07] <Masqy> jrib: I also use urxvt (rus,en,heb)
[02:07] <Noxville> hello, does any know how to set up a iBurst modem/router
[02:07] <Noxville> on ubuntu
[02:08] <Noxville> or cousre
[02:08] <maksoud> snowblink: I can not ping the router
[02:08] <xipietotec> ack! it unpacked to my desktop as a locked file...and now I can't remove it from my desktop!
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Crazed: Are you running compiz or unusual theme/icon set?
[02:08] <linopil> 77777
[02:08] <xipietotec> not even using sudo rm
[02:08] <rukuartic> maksoud: Type "iwconfig" to see which card's your wireless, and then "iwlist (interface) scan"
[02:08] <Crazed> well I have run compiz before yes ..
[02:08] <Crazed> but not anymore ..
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Crazed: That problem is beyond my abilities... Sad but true
[02:09] <xipietotec> anyone? How can I remove a file with the padlock on it?
[02:09] <maksoud> rukuartic: My wireless card can see the networks available but can not connect to my network.. Isn't this a sign that it is recognized?
[02:09] <jrib> xipietotec: what are the permissions on the file?
[02:09] <Crazed> thx anyway :)
[02:09] <Crazed> not really a major problem
[02:09] <rukuartic> maksoud: Its recognized... try typing things in manually
[02:09] <xipietotec> root
[02:09] <Crazed> can work around it :)
[02:10] <jrib> xipietotec: what does it say when you try using sudo rm?
[02:10] <rukuartic> maksoud: Eg: "sudo iwconfig (interface) essid "whatever" channel X ap auto" and then "sudo dhclient"
[02:10] <dejv_> $ file .git/objects/pack/pack-477061883bee3d10bece6e3432355b61ba02e594.idx
[02:10] <dejv_> .git/objects/pack/pack-477061883bee3d10bece6e3432355b61ba02e594.idx: data
[02:10] <dejv_> david@cihla:~/src/linux/ubuntu-2.6 $ file .git/objects/pack/.pack-477061883bee3d10bece6e3432355b61ba02e594.pack.uxl2uu
[02:10] <dejv_> .git/objects/pack/.pack-477061883bee3d10bece6e3432355b61ba02e594.pack.uxl2uu: Quake I or II world or extension
[02:10] <dejv_> :-D
[02:10] <rukuartic> !paste
[02:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:10] <xipietotec> rm: cannot remove directory `winex': Is a directory
[02:10] <Keddie> stefg, Jack_Sparrow , updated the sources.list, still no go. it did find 86 upgrades after I did a apt-get update. Going to upgrade and if still broken will try to fix after that. Thank for the help though..
[02:10] <jrib> xipietotec: sudo rm -rf /path/to/directory
[02:10] <stefg> maksoud: ok... so you know that the 'physical' connection to your router doesn't work. have you tried to disable all wireless encryption and checked that your router can accept non-encrypted traffic? Could an active MAC-Filter in your router prevent the wireless-adapter to be accepted?
[02:11] <rukuartic> maksoud: If you're not using dhcp, just type "ifconfig (interface) [desired ip address] " and "route add default gw [your router's IP] "
[02:11] <Masqy> jrib: which do u use as bold, and in general, do you have good colour scheme?
[02:12] <xipietotec> yey....now If I can only get it to unpack right into the appropriate portions of my filesystem
[02:12] <jrib> Masqy: I just set bold to have a lightyellow color, and I tried to copy the "linux console" colors from gnome terminal
[02:12] <linopil> hi anyone can remote telnet  my test PC on ssh please ?
[02:12] <maksoud> stefg: I do not know how to do that
[02:12] <rukuartic> linopil: Telnet, or ssh?
[02:13] <jrib> xipietotec: what are you doing exactly?
[02:13] <POVaddct> linopil: telnet or ssh?
[02:13] <linopil> rukuartic:  POVaddct ok ssh
[02:13] <Masqy> jrib: where can I find them?
[02:13] <jrib> Masqy: here's what I use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24378
[02:13] <POVaddct> linopil: and which ip address?
[02:13] <stefg> maksoud: check your routers settings. Normally this is done by pointing a webbrowser to the routers IP. After authentication you'll be in your routers gui
[02:14] <xipietotec> jrib: trying to unpack an archive which needs to be unpacked into the file-directory, however to do that I needed to use sudo, so when I tried unpacking it using tar zxvf it opened it to the desktop
[02:14] <linopil> I want to learn  how to do it  l8r a guy will help me trhu LTSP with ssh and I want to prepar connection
[02:14] <linopil> POVaddct:  can yu help me?
[02:14] <Crazed> Jack_Sparrow: it just had to do with permissions ..
[02:14] <jrib> xipietotec: but why?  what is this program?  There may be a better way
[02:14] <stefg> maksoud: another check would be if there's firmware required to get the wireless going..
[02:15] <stefg> !wifi
[02:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:15] <Crazed> changed all the permissions of user and group to rwx
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Crazed: You didnt have permission to run alacarte
[02:15] <POVaddct> linopil: so where should we connect to?
[02:15] <Crazed> no just some folders that alacarte uses
[02:15] <rukuartic> stefg: If he can see networks, its a pretty good indication that he's got a card thats working...
[02:15] <Crazed> like ~/.local and ~/.config
[02:15] <Crazed> the permissions where none
[02:15] <xipietotec> jrib: cedega, not in a debian repository format
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Crazed: Glad you got it..   I know it is 5am here but I would not have thought of that
[02:16] <Crazed> lol it's 14:15 here ;)
[02:16] <jrib> xipietotec: so where should 'winex' go?
[02:16] <Yaakov> xipietotec: http://kitenet.net/~joey/code/alien.html
[02:16] <linopil> I read that ssh is a cure for telnet rlogin and ftp
[02:16] <POVaddct> linopil: yes
[02:16] <stefg> !info openssh
[02:16] <Masqy> jrib: how do I cause it to reload .Xdefaults ?
[02:16] <ubotu> Package openssh does not exist in any distro I know
[02:17] <POVaddct> linopil: so what are you trying to do exactly?
[02:17] <jrib> Masqy: xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults
[02:18] <stefg> !info openssh-server
[02:18] <ubotu> openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 540 kB
[02:19] <rukuartic> linopil: The difference between ssh and telnet/ftp and possibly rlogin is that they encrypt the text transfer so someone listening in won't be able to get usernames and passwords.
[02:20] <mrDaniel> with which command I can unpack a .tar.gz file?
[02:21] <jrib> !tar.gz
[02:21] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[02:21] <damousys> tar -zxfv filename.tar.gz
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> cyphase: Would you also pick up your new car from the dealer just before they polish it up?  Edgy gets released next month..
[02:22] <cyphase> Jack_Sparrow: so i guess no one should be beta testing edgy then
[02:22] <cyphase> because it'll be released next month
[02:23] <stefg> ... and edgy has a lot of problems still (usplash, DVB-support)
[02:23] <BlueEagle> !info fail2ban
[02:23] <ubotu> fail2ban: bans IPs that cause multiple authentication errors. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-3 (dapper), package size 33 kB, installed size 240 kB
[02:23] <Tino> hello. I tried installing ubuntu 6.06 on a A8n-vm MB but it crash while booting
[02:23] <mywltm> !info packages held back
[02:23] <ubotu> Package packages does not exist in dapper
[02:23] <otaku515> Jrib I red about the repositry's but I still dont get it how I can install that BitchX cient :|
[02:23] <rukuartic> Hrrm... I have an interesting problem... When I have a program set as nopasswd in /etc/sudoers, it won't let me run GUI programs (like firestarter) because it can't find the display.
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> cyphase: They can use beta testers ...  but they could have used them more a couple months ago
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> cyphase: Not trying to start anything.. Please feel free to go for it
[02:25] <MrNaz> can ubuntu use the default debian packages or are there ubuntu specific sources?
[02:26] <stefg> ubunt != debian
[02:26] <pty> MrNaz: there are ubuntu specific sources
[02:26] <POVaddct> MrNaz: you better not mix ubuntu and debian
[02:26] <Noxville> does any1 know of a free windows ssh server????
[02:26] <stefg> putty
[02:26] <dhq>  i will install windows xp now how do i reconfigure grub
[02:27] <POVaddct> stefg: server
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> dhq: What partition are you going to use for XP
[02:27] <rukuartic> cyphase: What version is the next release going to be?
[02:27] <POVaddct> Noxville: what would that be goog for? a remote cmd.exe?
[02:27] <cyphase> 6.10
[02:27] <stefg> oh, yes... forgot that... hmm, last time i needed this i set up cygwin...
[02:27] <otaku515> I still dont get it how I can use the BitchX source coude
[02:27] <pty> Noxville: sshtools on sf
[02:27] <dhq> Jack_Sparrow: /media/hda3
[02:28] <dhq> Jack_Sparrow: /dev/hda3
[02:28] <rukuartic> Noxville: You could try setting up a VNC server
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> dhq: I only ask because windows really really prefers to be on hda1
[02:29] <otaku515> !easysource
[02:29] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:29] <rukuartic> Jack_Sparrow: I'm sure you could twist its arm though ;)
[02:30] <jrib> otaku515: ok, did you manage to enable universe?
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> rukuartic: Yes, you can twist its arm...  BUt how much twisting is worth the time if putting it on hda1 to begin with solves many of the problems that come up
[02:30] <rukuartic> Jack_Sparrow: How exactly would you install it without having it rewrite the mbr?
[02:31] <dhq> Jack_Sparrow: the windows boot will be on hda1 but i can install the image on dev/hda3 am i right
[02:31] <dhq> !grub
[02:31] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> rukuartic: windows will over-write the mbr, no way around that..
[02:31] <otaku515> no
[02:31] <unfknblvbl> whats a good dvd player ?
[02:31] <otaku515> I walked the staps and it said to type in some line
[02:32] <jrib> unfknblvbl: xine-ui, gxine, totem-xine are pretty good
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> rukuartic:  can open... worms everywhere
[02:33] <otaku515> but I see universe behind some of the packages
[02:33] <rukuartic> Jack_Sparrow: Phyew, good thing Windoze is smarter than I am!
[02:33] <unfknblvbl> ty jrib
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> rukuartic: I have put xp on sda3....  then used super grub repair cd to set it all up
[02:33] <finalbeta> Why doesn't ubuntu want to use totem-xine? They say gstreamer is beter, but so many people revert back. And sometimes, so do I.
[02:33] <rukuartic> unfknblvbl: VLC is amazing. It plays almost anything.
[02:33] <rukuartic> Jack_Sparrow: Aaand?
[02:33] <jrib> otaku515: hmm ok, they way to install bitchx is to go to system > administration > synaptic and install it there.  Or, you can just run the command 'sudo apt-get install bitchx'.  But you need to have enabled universe first
[02:33] <finalbeta> Atleast the visualisation is much beter :p
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> rukuartic: I prefer to call it my Wintendo Partition  :)
[02:34] <rukuartic> Jack_Sparrow: lol... do you have to blow on the ide pins to get it to work?
[02:34] <otaku515> and how do I activate universe?
[02:34] <rukuartic> otaku515: use easysource :)
[02:34] <otaku515> cause I did some add and checked universe
[02:34] <rukuartic> otaku515: or was it source o matic? I think it was :P
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> same dif
[02:35] <jrib> otaku515: ok, then you should have it.  Just try to install it with apt-get.  If it doesn't work, then we know you don't have it :)
[02:35] <otaku515> on Ubunto 6.06 LTS (source) I perssed add
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource
[02:35] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:35] <otaku515> then checked all check boxes as the page said
[02:35] <POVaddct> why do people always want such a sh***y irc client like bitchx? there is irssi
[02:35] <dhq> anyone need help in grub after installing windows https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows -
[02:35] <finalbeta> POVaddct, Xchat ;)
[02:35] <POVaddct> finalbeta: that too
[02:36] <otaku515> where do I type that command jrib?
[02:36] <rukuartic> dhq: lol normally you wait until someone asks you a question :P
[02:36] <otaku515> in synaptic package ?
[02:36] <POVaddct> finalbeta: i like things that i can run in screen(1)
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[02:36] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:36] <dhq> rukuartic: i had the problem so came across it and said i would share it with you guys
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> dhq: Yes we are aware of that info... I was just trying to let you kow it was much easier with Win on hda1...
[02:37] <jrib> otaku515: no, synaptic is a gui way to install packages.  apt-get is a command line program to install packages.  Let's try to use apt-get since it's easier to explain over irc.  Go to applications > accessories > terminal.  Then type 'sudo apt-get install bitchx' without quotes and press enter
[02:37] <unfknblvbl> Does anyone have the icons: HUMAN ULTRA PACK ? or atleast a link for it
[02:37] <otaku515> got it
[02:37] <otaku515> the terminal
[02:38] <jrib> unfknblvbl: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=46010 ?
[02:38] <otaku515> E: Type sudo is not known on line 34 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:38] <otaku515> thats what is says
[02:38] <tam> can anyone here recommend a good binary newsgroup downloader for *nix apart from klibido?
[02:39] <jrib> otaku515: yikes, can you copy the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and post them on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ?  Give us a link afterwards please
[02:39] <rukuartic> tam: tin :)
[02:39] <POVaddct> otaku515: you obviously typed something elsa than jrib told you
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> jrib: this will be interesting..
[02:39] <unfknblvbl> omg
[02:39] <unfknblvbl> jrib it didn't work yesterday
[02:39] <unfknblvbl> >.<
[02:39] <jrib> unfknblvbl: sure...
[02:40] <otaku515> when I type that it says acces denied
[02:40] <unfknblvbl> it didn't :-[
[02:40] <jrib> otaku515: type 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' without quotes to open the file
[02:40] <otaku515> wait a sec Jrib are you dutch?
[02:40] <rukuartic> otaku515: press alt+f2, type "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[02:40] <jrib> otaku515: nope
[02:40] <otaku515> ow ok
[02:40] <The_Machine> little help installing yahoo messenger (ymessenger)
[02:40] <The_Machine> i'm having no luck :(
[02:40] <rukuartic> otaku515: If you're looking for dutch, you could try #ubuntu-de (I think)
[02:41] <jrib> !nl
[02:41] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> The_Machine: Neither did I... finally gave up
[02:41] <tam> rukuartic: not really what am after, thanks anyway tho
[02:41] <The_Machine> *sigh*
[02:41] <rukuartic> tam: I like it :(
[02:41] <rukuartic> Anyone here used tsocks? I'm having trouble getting it to work.
[02:41] <tam> rukuartic: not really handy enough for me.
[02:41] <otaku515> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24380
[02:41] <rukuartic> tam: Its for cli addicts :P
[02:41] <otaku515> I think I already saw what I did xd
[02:42] <rukuartic> tam: you could run "apt-cache search usenet" or something... might come up with a few interesting packages
[02:42] <tam> rukuartic: i am a cli addict, but to be honest its too much of a hassle to download binaries
[02:42] <otaku515> now it says E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:42] <POVaddct> otaku515: you added sudo apt-get install bitchx
[02:42] <otaku515> yes I saw it when I pasted it
[02:42] <POVaddct> otaku515: to your sources.list file
[02:42] <otaku515> I removed it
[02:43] <otaku515> and now I can get the list again
[02:43] <otaku515> but now it gives that unable to lock the administration directory error
[02:43] <jrib> otaku515: do you have synaptic open maybe? or some other apt-get running somewhere?
[02:43] <otaku515> yes
[02:43] <POVaddct> otaku515: then you have another package tool running. close it.
[02:43] <otaku515> got synaptic open
[02:43] <otaku515> now closed
[02:44] <rukuartic> man, ubuntu's come so far since warthog/hedgehog... whichever came first...
[02:44] <otaku515> ow
[02:44] <otaku515> it extracted
[02:44] <jrib> otaku515: extracted?
[02:44] <POVaddct> otaku515: you mean it installed finally?
[02:44] <otaku515> I think it is
[02:45] <otaku515> how can I test it?
[02:45] <otaku515> if it can run?
[02:45] <rukuartic> otaku515: Of course, :P
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Now he wont like it...
[02:45] <jrib> otaku515: just to explain, apt-get fetches the program from online repositories.  So you don't ever need to grab the source code manually for a program.  it didn't use the tar.gz that you have on your computer of bitchx's source
[02:45] <otaku515> yes but where do I start it up?
[02:45] <jrib> otaku515: type 'bitchx'
[02:45] <otaku515> ow in the terminal?
[02:46] <jrib> otaku515: yes, it's a terminal irc client
[02:46] <otaku515> ow it worked
[02:46] <otaku515> !!
[02:46] <POVaddct> otaku515: bitchx is a text only irc client.
[02:46] <rukuartic> :D
[02:46] <otaku515> I saw it xd
[02:46] <rukuartic> otaku515: not you know how cool apt-get is... install stuff in seconds.
[02:46] <rukuartic> otaku515: Well, the first times difficult, but from then its a piece of cake
[02:47] <otaku515> I saw it
[02:47] <otaku515> what did that sudo mean?
[02:47] <jrib> ubotu: tell otaku515 about sudo
[02:47] <POVaddct> otaku515: sudo executes the command with root (admin) privileges
[02:47] <otaku515> lol ubotu is a bot?
[02:48] <rukuartic> Of course.
[02:48] <otaku515> :)
[02:48] <jrib> otaku515: yes, were you talking to him? :P
[02:48] <rukuartic> ubotu: you rock!
[02:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you rock! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:48] <unfknblvbl> lol
[02:48] <rukuartic> D: I'm crushed...
[02:48] <otaku515> haha
[02:48] <rukuartic> !botsnack
[02:48] <ubotu> Yum!
[02:48] <jrib> him/her we aren't sure...
[02:48] <otaku515> no I wasnt
[02:48] <otaku515> xd
[02:48] <otaku515> I might be a linux newbie
[02:48] <otaku515> I am not a IRC newbie ;-)
[02:49] <codecaine> anybody used cedgea
[02:49] <codecaine> I can't get my mouse to work right in it
[02:49] <codecaine> trying to play counterstrike in steam
[02:49] <codecaine> they keyboard works fine
[02:49] <otaku515> how can I check the space on my HD?
[02:49] <jrib> otaku515: df -h
[02:49] <rukuartic> codecaine: Oooh its so much easier to do that in doze...
[02:50] <otaku515> in the terminal
[02:50] <wickedpuppy> otaku515, df -h
[02:50] <rukuartic> otaku515: Yep, df stands for diskfree.... and the -h means put the size in stuff like megabytes/gigabytes instead of kilobytes
[02:50] <manaPirat> hi guys :)
[02:50] <codecaine> whats doze?
[02:50] <DJGummik1h> hi
[02:50] <otaku515> ok
[02:50] <rukuartic> codecaine: windoze
[02:51] <codecaine> oh yea I know
[02:51] <codecaine> lol
[02:51] <manaPirat> sorry i know that this question might be batter placed on the forums, but i need to order today:
[02:51] <codecaine> buy why use windows when you got a wonder linux at your hand
[02:51] <rukuartic> codecaine: Things related to linux that you need to pay fore are bad. >:P
[02:51] <DJGummikuh> hey how do I install vmware-workstation under ubuntu? am I dumb or is it not in the repository?
[02:51] <codecaine> an trying to not use windows
[02:51] <rukuartic> manaPirat: Shoot, whats yer question?
[02:51] <manaPirat> i am looking for a very well supported printer for my grandma that doesnt need so much hacking under ubuntu
[02:51] <otaku515> for my root HD it says this: /dev/hda1             149G  2,2G  140G   2% /
[02:51] <jrib> ubotu: tell manaPirat about printing
[02:52] <otaku515> it says 140 Gig was used
[02:52] <DJGummikuh> ubotu: tell DJGummikuh about vmware
[02:52] <otaku515> but I said when during the installation to format it
[02:52] <rukuartic> manaPirat: linuxprinting.org/database.html
[02:52] <wickedpuppy> otaku515, i see 2.2 gig used
[02:52] <POVaddct> otaku515: no, 140gig are free
[02:52] <DJGummikuh> otaku515: no it says 2.2gb are used
[02:52] <DJGummikuh> otaku515: learn to read ^^
[02:52] <otaku515> ow
[02:52] <manaPirat> arg please dont hunt me with the bot :P
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> codecaine: He means Wintendo  :)
[02:52] <rukuartic> manaPirat: I'm not a bot O_o;
[02:52] <otaku515> ow wait the line above is a bit larger
[02:52] <otaku515> xd
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> sorry, I lagged
[02:53] <manaPirat> but ubotu is lol
[02:53] <wickedpuppy> otaku515, eh ... df does have headers ... like used , available and so on .. on top of the numbers
[02:53] <rukuartic> manaPirat: Did it whisper you?
[02:53] <kaur> Hi, i am using dapper on a quite unknown laptop and it works fine, only there is a problem with hibernate. When i try to hibernate the computer, then the screen goes black and then after about 10 secs the same screen pops up as if i had locked the screen. After suspend, wifi doesn't seem to work.  Kernel ver. 2.6.15-27-686. Any ideas?
[02:53] <manaPirat> yep
[02:53] <otaku515> I see
[02:53] <zaggynl> Hi, Can anyone help me with my harddisk? It's partitions gets mounted at /tmp/disks-conf-sda#
[02:53] <zaggynl> But I can't access them
[02:54] <otaku515> the headers are those the varrun and varlock things?
[02:54] <zaggynl> !sata
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <otaku515> that I see ?
[02:54] <manaPirat> ah ok that database looks better than the ones i saw before
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> otaku515, no ...
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> zaggynl: what format are the partitions you are trying to mount and how did yo mount them
[02:54] <manaPirat> ah schau an: http://linuxprinting.org/printer_list.cgi?make=Anyone
[02:55] <zaggynl> Jack_Sparrow, NTFS (old windows xp installation), I haven't mounted them myself
[02:55] <rukuartic> manaPirat: Hee. Most of the printers are like, enterprise laserjet things though :P
[02:55] <wickedpuppy> otaku515, pls see my paste to you ...
[02:55] <DJGummikuh> Jack_Sparrow: nice name :D
[02:55] <kaur> Hi, i am using dapper on a quite unknown laptop and it works fine, only there is a problem with hibernation and suspend. When i try to hibernate the computer, then the screen goes black and then after about 10 secs the same screen pops up as if i had locked the screen. After suspend, wifi doesn't seem to work.  Kernel ver. 2.6.15-27-686. Any ideas?
[02:55] <The_Machine> hibernation sucks ass.
[02:55] <boink> !laptop
[02:55] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> FYI good tutorial on mounting drives is here at    http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountlinux
[02:56] <zaggynl> thanks jack
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[02:56] <rukuartic> kaur: I don't know quite how to solve your problem, but I remember seeing some posts on ubuntuforums.org if you search for hibernate
[02:56] <chnode> anybody knows why artwiz font dont work em app gtk2 in ubuntu?
[02:57] <rukuartic> The_Machine: Quite on the contrary, I use it almost every day. Its great when I'm moving between buildings.
[02:57] <vorbote> chnode, bitmaps fonts are desiabled in fontconfig by default.
[02:57] <otaku515> I answered
[02:57] <forevertheuni> hi..what is the file to "force" to load our modules at boot?
[02:57] <otaku515> but it answered as hitokiri for some reason puppy
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> hitokiri ?
[02:58] <malice> ?, has anyone here used tor on unbuntu if so does it work well? Just asking before I read up on it and install it on my system
[02:58] <otaku515> well in the PM I see hitokiri as my nick
[02:58] <otaku515> ..<
[02:58] <otaku515> (14:56:48) hitkiri515: dont know
[02:58] <otaku515> (14:56:55) hitkiri515: is the 252 m?
[02:58] <romaluca> Is there any site where are reported the news of the linux applications and ubuntu?
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> malice, get a live cd and play with it pls
[02:58] <`ph8> forevertheuni: what do you mean force a file?
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> otaku515, thats not me ... lol
[02:58] <`ph8> i have a feeling /etc/modules contains a list of modules that are loaded at boot
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> zaggynl: You can also use the diskmounter script found here for your ntfs...  http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[02:58] <rukuartic> forevertheuni: /etc/modules?
[02:59] <`ph8> assuming you mean kernel modules, and assuming my memory is good
[02:59] <otaku515> no I am hitokiri
[02:59] <rukuartic> forevertheuni: you could also use modprobe
[02:59] <otaku515> its my second nick
[02:59] <zaggynl> Jack_Sparrow, cool!
[02:59] <forevertheuni> rukuartic, I know but I want..in boot
[02:59] <malice> wickedpuppy, I hav e ubuntu on my laptop already
[02:59] <forevertheuni> auto loading modules
[02:59] <thefish> anyone here use otrs in 606?
[02:59] <malice> why would I need a live cd?
[02:59] <malice> Is there another channel that I should be in to ask about apps?
[02:59] <wickedpuppy> oh tor ...
[02:59] <`ph8> #ubuntu-devel?
[02:59] <wickedpuppy> i didn't see that one
[02:59] <Neo8750> wtf
[02:59] <rukuartic> malice: Its great for figuring out whether or not ubuntu will work out of the box, and since the installer boots gdm anyways
[02:59] <wickedpuppy> my apologies
[02:59] <rukuartic> malice: Nope you can ask here
[03:00] <majyk> why does installing vmware-player remove libdbus-1.2? Does that sound like a mistake in the vmware-player package?
[03:00] <Tjodden> malice: Works fine for me.
[03:00] <skoenman> hallo there people
[03:00] <rukuartic> skoenman: Hio :)
[03:00] <malice> tjodden, thanks
[03:00] <malice> wickedpuppy, np :)
[03:00] <wickedpuppy> otaku515, i was talking about this header from df -h
[03:00] <wickedpuppy> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[03:00] <chnode> vorbote: and how i enable this?
[03:00] <otaku515> yes
[03:00] <boink> hall there shoeman
[03:00] <otaku515> I saw that
[03:00] <wickedpuppy> oh goodie
[03:00] <skoenman> does anybody know how i can make a screen go by slower if i type for instance cp --help???
[03:00] <Tjodden> malice: Just need to add a line to privoxy's config after install to make it send traffic through tor (and ofcourse configure proxies in gnome).
[03:00] <skoenman> how you guys doing
[03:01] <wickedpuppy> skoenman, you can try this cp --help | less
[03:01] <boink> skoeman: maybe cp --help|more
[03:01] <marianet> hello i m looking for a simil to qbase, for ubuntu, anybody knows some one?
[03:01] <boink> less or more, both are fine
[03:01] <wickedpuppy> less or more ... its more or less the same
[03:01] <skoenman> k
[03:01] <skoenman> lets try
[03:01] <boink> more is less .. less is more, etc
[03:01] <otaku515> ow wait puppy Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on is the header?
[03:01] <zaggynl> Jack_Sparrow, added a line in fstab, works now =)
[03:01] <vorbote> chnode, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config". Stat from there.
[03:01] <wickedpuppy> yup
[03:01] <POVaddct> skoenman: you can quit less with "q"
[03:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Cool
[03:01] <otaku515> now I understand
[03:01] <otaku515> xd
[03:01] <zaggynl> Jack_Sparrow, but I don't understand the automounting in /tmp/bla and not working
[03:01] <vorbote> chnode, you will need to restart X after any modification
[03:01] <chnode> vorbote:  ok, thank u
[03:02] <skoenman> doenst look like it changes alot
[03:02] <boink> can't you see screen by screen?
[03:02] <skoenman> so i type in cp --help less..???
[03:02] <boink> now
[03:02] <boink> no
[03:02] <otaku515> now I got another question currently I got a HD running however its not shown or recognized
[03:02] <boink> cp --help | less
[03:02] <wickedpuppy> skoenman, |
[03:02] <chnode> vorbote: i will try...
[03:02] <romaluca>  Is there any site where are reported the news of the linux applications and ubuntu?
[03:02] <boink> | <= pipe
[03:02] <Jack_Sparrow> zaggynl: Someone elase can probably explain it...
[03:02] <skoenman> how do i get that upright thing
[03:02] <wickedpuppy> you need the vertical line .. called pipe as boink as pointed out
[03:02] <zaggynl> Jack_Sparrow, I'll look it up
[03:02] <boink> maybe it's next to the Z on your keyboard
[03:02] <wickedpuppy> shift \
[03:02] <skoenman> k thanks
[03:03] <skoenman> lets try again
[03:03] <forevertheuni> at boot
[03:03] <forevertheuni> oh and by the way..I had in this disk(actually I still have ) an encrypted partiotion with aes I used to use cryptoloop with losetup. It is from my previous distro here. and in ubuntu it doesn't work :(
[03:03] <forevertheuni> the aes module was only aes
[03:03] <forevertheuni> and in /proc/crypto It only showed aes
[03:03] <forevertheuni> I have name: aes ; driver : aes-i586
[03:03] <forevertheuni> in /proc/crypto?
[03:03] <forevertheuni> will I need to use knoppix to mount it?
[03:03] <forevertheuni> or can I mount it in ubuntu
[03:03] <starscalling> ok
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> BAng.. isnt that Shift and key above enter
[03:03] <forevertheuni> in ubuntu I have name : aes; driver : aes
[03:03] <bikstopa> hi
[03:03] <starscalling> i accidentally copied over my /bin/bash
[03:03] <starscalling> ~_~
[03:03] <boink> ouch
[03:03] <otaku515> how can I get my HD be recognized by Ubuntu?
[03:03] <starscalling> anyone mind pasting a copy of the text of that ?
[03:04] <starscalling> on pastebin of course
[03:04] <starscalling> b/c
[03:04] <rukuartic> starscalling: Its ok :)
[03:04] <wickedpuppy> otaku515, isn't it recognised now ?
[03:04] <starscalling> rukuartic, um
[03:04] <starscalling> i have no shell
[03:04] <rukuartic> starscalling: Dumb stuff happens. :)
[03:04] <otaku515> no
[03:04] <starscalling> can cant even unsintall it
[03:04] <starscalling> :/
[03:04] <wickedpuppy> i see that it says you got 149 gig
[03:04] <otaku515> I got three disc now
[03:04] <starscalling> and i dont wanna reboot to rescue cd and chroot :/
[03:04] <otaku515> two are recognized
[03:04] <rukuartic> starscalling: try running "gnome-terminal sh" or something?
[03:04] <otaku515> the other 320 GB isnt recognized
[03:04] <starscalling> rukuartic,
[03:04] <starscalling> kant
[03:04] <rukuartic> starscalling: Holy cow that is bad >>
[03:04] <starscalling> i have no terminal
[03:04] <erUSUL> forevertheuni: i think there is a how to in the wiki go and search there
[03:05] <starscalling> bash is gone
[03:05] <starscalling> and bash is set for my user shell
[03:05] <otaku515> however its external when I put my other 160 GB in it gets recognized as USB HD
[03:05] <starscalling> if you know how to set my shell to /bin/sh then mebbie i could get pas it
[03:05] <starscalling> or whatever the sh is
[03:05] <otaku515> but when I put in my 320 it isnt recognized
[03:05] <forevertheuni> erUSUL, I've search but it's a diferent way. the ubuntu wiki have dm modules way :(
[03:05] <rukuartic> starscalling: chsh, but thats a command issued from bash
[03:05] <rukuartic> starscalling: Ur... If you can login as another user...
[03:05] <starscalling> nope
[03:05] <starscalling> no other users
[03:06] <wickedpuppy> otaku515,  you can look at dmesg when you plug in the harddisk
[03:06] <starscalling> oh i wonder if i can execute that from xchat
[03:06] <wickedpuppy> it might have the error message
[03:06] <starscalling> /exec xterm chsh
[03:06] <starscalling> like that ??
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> starscalling: How about using half as many presses on the enter key
[03:06] <otaku515> whats that?
[03:06] <sess> anyone know of any good video editing packages I can install in ubuntu?
[03:06] <otaku515> mdesg?
[03:06] <wickedpuppy> otaku515, type dmesg on the terminal
[03:06] <wickedpuppy> yes
[03:06] <otaku515> dmesg
[03:06] <skoenman> k done that
[03:06] <otaku515> done
[03:06] <skoenman> k now last question
[03:06] <starscalling> Jack_Sparrow, how about u help ~_~
[03:07] <LotsaCabo> I need to replace Win2K servers with Ubuntu and still have some type of INTEGRATED Windows login at the desktop.  Is this possible?  What can I use?  I have not done my homework yet on this (gotta head into a meeting in 9 minutes to discuss it).
[03:07] <skoenman> i want to copy a full dir to another one
[03:07] <skoenman> k
[03:07] <skoenman> the command i use is
[03:07] <starscalling> rukuartic, yeah needs /bin/sh to run and bourne bash shell is ded
[03:07] <wickedpuppy> good i hope you got the messages ...now pls look for the error messages
[03:07] <sess> lotsacabo: gdm
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> starscalling: I am working another problem... have some patience
[03:07] <skoenman> sudo cp -r /home/skoenman /var/www
[03:07] <otaku515> ok
[03:07] <skoenman> it doesnt seem to copy the files
[03:07] <sess> lotsacabo: oops, you're still ok, just set up samba to be a PDC
[03:07] <erUSUL> forevertheuni: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/encryption_with_encfs_and_pam-encfs?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=encryptedfilesystem&titlesearch=T%C3%ADtulos
[03:08] <skoenman> what do you guys suggest???
[03:08] <boink> man cp :)
[03:08] <sess> lotsacabo: then your windows users can log into the ubuntu samba server like the win2k server
[03:08] <LotsaCabo> sess:  That's the graphical login for Linux.  I need to allow Windows clients to login.
[03:08] <LotsaCabo> sess:  Really?  Samba is not just for file sharing?
[03:08] <sess> LotsaCabo: I realized that after rereading your question
[03:09] <wickedpuppy> LotsaCabo, samba + ldap = very powerful directory server
[03:09] <wickedpuppy> ok its a bit messy ...
[03:09] <wickedpuppy> lol
[03:09] <LotsaCabo> sess: I thought Samba was just the RPC-based file sharing.
[03:09] <sess> lotsacabo: samba can be used as a primary domain controller, especially the newer versions have more support for more functionality, as for active directory support, I have no idea, so if thats what you're after go to samba.org and see if its supportd
[03:09] <erUSUL> LotsaCabo: samba con do the role of a win2k server. check out the docs in samba.org they are quite good. Especially the samba-howto-collection
[03:10] <sess> :-D
[03:10] <boink> can't it do winXP server as well?
[03:10] <LotsaCabo> Cool.  So, a Win2K desktop can "join" a Samba domain?
[03:10] <wickedpuppy> LotsaCabo, of course
[03:10] <LotsaCabo> wickedpuppy: Wow. I have so ignored Samba over the years.
[03:10] <forevertheuni> erUSUL, like I said..none of that howtos use the same way to create the crypted fs
[03:10] <forevertheuni> :(
[03:10] <sess> lotsacabo: yes, I set up a samba controlled network for UMass SGA last year using samba 3.  Very easy to do, very easy to maintain
[03:10] <boink> of course, a win2k desktop can join a samba domain
[03:10] <forevertheuni> I'll use knoppix I know it works
[03:10] <boink> !samba
[03:10] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:11] <bighil> hi, anybody got the lirc kernel modules installed under ubuntu?  When I do as dpkg-reconfigure suggests I get a deb package for kernel version 2.6.15.7-ubuntu1 and not for 2.6.15-26-server.
[03:11] <starscalling> sudo dpkg --force install /home/nekostar/Desktop/bash_3.1-2ubuntu10_i386.deb
[03:11] <LotsaCabo> ubotu: Thanks for the links.
[03:11] <sess> LotsaCabo: samba will do user authentication, however, I didn't try to attach it to an existing win2k network, the samba server WAS the PDC and domain authenticator
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Thanks for the links. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <sess> sole domain authenticator
[03:11] <harisund> DBO: are you around?
[03:11] <starscalling> !________________________!
[03:12] <DJGummikuh> ?
[03:12] <otaku515> wicked pyppy I sended you tha paste of the dmesg about the USB massive storage devices
[03:12] <LotsaCabo> Coolness.  Thanks, everyone, for letting me harass you with this.
[03:12] <wickedpuppy> otaku515, can paste it on pastebin instead ? thanks
[03:13] <otaku515> I used pastebin
[03:13] <otaku515> :|
[03:13] <erUSUL> LotsaCabo: i will recomend again Samba-howto-collection.pdf chapter 4
[03:13] <otaku515> gave you the URL
[03:13] <harisund> Hello! Is any one using a Ubuntu box as a router? I am, and the client computers on the LAN aren't able to use IRC, and a couple of other stuff such as MSN file transfers I think. Anybody have a clue why? NAT/IP masquearding is working fine ....
[03:13] <wickedpuppy> otaku515, i am getting any provate messages from ya ...
[03:14] <wickedpuppy> can paste the url here ?
[03:14] <somethingelse> hello
[03:14] <otaku515> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24383
[03:14] <somethingelse> can someone please tell me how to enable direct rendering?
[03:14] <otaku515> wicked didnt you get a PM from hitokiri?
[03:14] <somethingelse> i was messing around with video and somehow disabled it
[03:14] <agenteo> do you know in witch package do I find the arial font?
[03:14] <wickedpuppy> nope
[03:14] <starscalling> so
[03:14] <somethingelse> i have an ati radeon 9000 chipset
[03:14] <otaku515> weird
[03:14] <starscalling> would someone mind please pasting contents of /bin/bash for me ?
[03:14] <skoenman> isnt there a prog that i can use like ll5 layout to transfer files???
[03:14] <starscalling> at pastebin there?
[03:14] <otaku515> well thats the link
[03:15] <erUSUL> agenteo: mscorefonts iirc
[03:15] <boink> contents of /bin/bash ?
[03:15] <starscalling> yes.
[03:15] <boink> you mean just the binary?
[03:15] <starscalling> yeah
[03:15] <erUSUL> starscalling: /bin/bash is a binary
[03:15] <starscalling> i still havnt figured how im gonna get it executable
[03:15] <starscalling> erUSUL, i know
[03:15] <starscalling> mine is gone
[03:15] <starscalling> i accidentally overwrote it
[03:15] <dawg^> hehe
[03:15] <boink> apt-get install tcsh ?
[03:16] <skoenman> ??? anybody???
[03:16] <starscalling> tcsh ??
[03:16] <chnode> verbose: man, thank u for help, the fonts work now! ;] 
[03:16] <starscalling> see
[03:16] <boink> tcsh is yet another shell
[03:16] <agenteo> er4z0r, I don't have mscorefonts
[03:16] <starscalling> the thing is boink
[03:16] <starscalling> i cant get into shells.. lemme see if i can install even
[03:16] <boink> oh no
[03:16] <sess> starscalling: apt-get remove bash; apt-get install bash
[03:16] <wickedpuppy> otaku515, thats lots of errors there ...
[03:16] <sess> that might work
[03:16] <otaku515> >.<
[03:16] <boink> but he can't get a shell
[03:16] <sess> without causing death to your system
[03:16] <sess> use synaptic then
[03:17] <starscalling> sess tried it
[03:17] <starscalling> thats when i lost shells lol
[03:17] <boink> then install tcsh and you'll get a tcsh shell
[03:17] <starscalling> yeah synaptic cant do installing of packages
[03:17] <starscalling> what i need.
[03:17] <otaku515> it can see it's a Western digital
[03:17] <starscalling> is that darn dealio
[03:17] <otaku515> which is correct
[03:17] <wickedpuppy> otaku515, the one you can't see .. its NTFS ?
[03:17] <otaku515> cause thats the one currently unside the casing
[03:17] <we2by> hi
[03:17] <otaku515> all my HD's are NTFS
[03:17] <starscalling> fuck
[03:18] <we2by> I got errors when trying to install flash
[03:18] <otaku515> alse the ones that are seen
[03:18] <starscalling> this installs totally trashed.
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !language > starscalling
[03:18] <wickedpuppy> otaku515, you know about problem writing to ntfs ?
[03:18] <otaku515> yes
[03:18] <starscalling> Jack_Sparrow,
[03:18] <otaku515> I am aware of those
[03:18] <starscalling> either show you can help
[03:18] <starscalling> or please leave me alone
[03:18] <starscalling> sir.
[03:18] <starscalling> thanx.
[03:18] <we2by> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24385
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > starscalling
[03:19] <we2by> here is the error
[03:19] <we2by> please, help
[03:19] <starscalling> !asshole > Jack_Sparrow
[03:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asshole - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <sess> bad move
[03:19] <Zebraphp> Hehehehe
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !ops
[03:19] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[03:19] <Zebraphp> guys how's t going
[03:19] <sess> uh ooooh, you done it now...
[03:19] <Zebraphp> can anyon teach me how to mount a network share?XP
[03:19] <we2by> I got errors when installing flash :(
[03:19] <we2by> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24385
[03:19] <spdf> starscalling, what's stopping you from booting the rescue cd and chroot'n?
[03:19] <otaku515> but how can I get that HD be recognized?
[03:19] <starscalling> spdf, i dont know how.
[03:20] <sess> good call spdf
[03:20] <starscalling> i mentioned something about it earlier in passing.
[03:20] <Hobbsee> Jack_Sparrow: ?
[03:20] <sess> I always forget about the cd
[03:20] <starscalling> oh
[03:20] <starscalling> its me Hobbsee
[03:20] <starscalling> give it a bit lemme find out how to chroot
[03:20] <starscalling> and then ban away if u must
[03:20] <starscalling> spdf, / sess ?
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Hobbsee:  please scroll back and check out starscalling
[03:20] <we2by> some one helps me please
[03:20] <Hobbsee> starscalling: right, please watch your language.
[03:21] <starscalling> yeah i know Hobbsee
[03:21] <spdf> starscalling, boot the cd, CTRL-ALT-F1'll get you a prompt..
[03:21] <starscalling> but its really hard to keep patience with someone who is just entranced with !enter this and !language that
[03:21] <Zebraphp> gentlemen.. is it possible to mount a network SMB? share?
[03:21] <starscalling> especially when my system just took a major crapola :/
[03:21] <we2by> Zebraphp, yes
[03:21] <starscalling> spdf, right...
[03:21] <spdf> starscalling, mount the partition rw, and you're off to the races..
[03:21] <we2by> Zebraphp, gnome can do it for you
[03:21] <Zebraphp> we2by: even on a live cd?
[03:21] <starscalling> mount / ?
[03:22] <we2by> Zebraphp, not sure about that. I asume yes
[03:22] <starscalling> spdf,
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> I have been here since 3:30am my time, I am here 5 days a wek helping people
[03:22] <starscalling> if i mount partition then what
[03:22] <sess> starscalling, no, mkdir directory, then mount to that directory.  Then you chroot to that directory and set the bash shell from your external environment
[03:22] <starscalling> and thats no excuse ^^:;
[03:22] <spdf> starscalling, fix whatever it is you've done, and then reboot
[03:22] <kaur> when i have 1016 mb of physical memory do i have to have a swap partition as big as that for the hibernation function to work?
[03:22] <starscalling> sess, whats that command
[03:22] <kaur> sry if not when
[03:22] <starscalling> just chroot /path/to/mounted/dir ?
[03:22] <wobster> Hi everyone. My dhcpd refuses to start during bootup. Starting it manually via "/etc/init.d/dhcp3.server start" works perfectly. My configuration is proven (= correct). Could be some permission problem but I don't know what to look for. The init-script simply fails. No output to the logs.
[03:22] <starscalling> and that makes that one root ?
[03:22] <Zebraphp> Ca anyone confirm that mounting a network share is possible on a live cd?
[03:23] <antiPosix> Zebraphp: of course you can
[03:23] <sess> starscalling: forget chrooting, just mount the directory and then copy bash from the cd to that directory if all you need is bash
[03:23] <starscalling> oh snap
[03:23] <starscalling> yer right!
[03:23] <starscalling> ok thanx
[03:23] <Zebraphp> can you give me an example please? I am a neewbie
[03:23] <kaur> if i have 1016 mb of physical memory do i have to have a swap partition as big as that for the hibernation function to work?
[03:23] <sess> np buddy
[03:23] <starscalling> Hobbsee, i was ban evading anyway ~_~
[03:23] <we2by> omg. some one is sending a file over icq from china at 2kb/s :(
[03:23] <sess> amazing
[03:24] <spdf> starscalling, how'd you go about screwing things up anyway?
[03:24] <otaku515> lol
[03:24] <The_Machine> little help installing ymessenger in dapper?  :)
[03:24] <Zebraphp> can someone give me a quick example of mounting a network smb share?
[03:24] <wickedpuppy> otaku515, i can't seem to find exact error on the google ... would you mind putting this bug on the forum ?
[03:25] <sess> is there a website I should know about that talks about multimedia editing in ubuntu?  all my google queries lead to the user forums..
[03:25] <otaku515> hm ok
[03:25] <otaku515> where is the forum?
[03:25] <erUSUL> Zebraphp: firs try the easy way go to Places>NetworkServers or Places>Connect to Server
[03:25] <The_Machine> getting libssl0.9.6 dependancy error
[03:25] <we2by> can't u use yahoo with gaim?
[03:25] <wickedpuppy> otaku515, ubuntuforums.org
[03:25] <The_Machine> though installing that has simply proved to be impossible too?
[03:26] <Zebraphp> I need to mount it to use it for the dd utility
[03:26] <The_Machine> gaim isn't working
[03:26] <The_Machine> firewall problems
[03:26] <Zebraphp> erUSUL: I need to mount it to use it for the dd utility
[03:26] <sess> ubuntu.com/community/forums
[03:26] <The_Machine> even when i change from 5050 to port 80
[03:26] <erUSUL> Zebraphp: dd works over dev files not in mounted filesystem afaik
[03:26] <we2by> The_Machine, what  firewall? yours?
[03:26] <The_Machine> my firewall blocks it..  and it isn't a firewall i can change.
[03:26] <erUSUL> on dev files*
[03:26] <The_Machine> well, works'
[03:26] <Zebraphp> erUSUL: it does with mount too
[03:26] <we2by> The_Machine, use proxy?
[03:27] <Zebraphp> erUSUL: if part does
[03:27] <The_Machine> i'd rather just install ymessenger.
[03:27] <sess> Jack_Sparrow: is it possible to add information to ubotu?
[03:27] <wickedpuppy> sess, not everybody i think
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> sess: yeS
[03:27] <wickedpuppy> can ?
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Not individually..
[03:28] <wickedpuppy> collectively ?
[03:28] <sess> Jack_Sparrow: how would I go about doing it, or where do I submit my info and url?
[03:28] <jrib> sess: /msg ubotu foo is bar      <-- he will relay the information to operators for review
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Just pass it to an op...
[03:28] <appelza> Hi there
[03:28] <kaur> if i have 1016 mb of physical memory do i have to have a swap partition as big as that for the hibernation function to work?
[03:28] <appelza> is there a php5 package with gd support?
[03:29] <wickedpuppy> whats gd ?
[03:29] <skruwilus> hey is there any IM with voice/video?
[03:29] <erUSUL> kaur: afaik yes
[03:29] <sess> oakly doakly
[03:29] <skruwilus> i ahve not used IMs for months
[03:29] <skruwilus> if not a year
[03:29] <boink> skype ?
[03:29] <jrib> ubotu: tell sess about yourself
[03:29] <skruwilus> does skype have video?
[03:29] <The_Machine> im rocks.  screw e-mail
[03:29] <spdf> kaur, You're best to make it twice the size of your physical memory
[03:29] <we2by> yea, the beta version has
[03:29] <we2by> dunno if it works on li nux
[03:29] <boink> video? don't think so .. maybe the google one? but don't know
[03:29] <skruwilus> hmm
[03:29] <spdf> kaur, atleast, thats the guideline
[03:30] <skruwilus> i have googled
[03:30] <skruwilus> found only old references
[03:30] <thomas_> hello ubuntu
[03:30] <we2by> they are working on a beta verison with video support
[03:30] <boink> i'm too ugly for video, i just use skype
[03:30] <skruwilus> i was wondering if therew as something neww
[03:30] <appelza> is there a way to get 'image magic' installed via apt?
[03:30] <spdf> skruwilus, The linux client does not have video yet
[03:30] <jrib> !info imagemagick
[03:30] <ubotu> imagemagick: Image manipulation programs. In component main, is optional. Version 6:6.2.4.5-0.6ubuntu0.2 (dapper), package size 1576 kB, installed size 4068 kB
[03:30] <appelza> tnx
[03:31] <skruwilus> aww boink  *pets*
[03:31] <thomas_> Anybody know about the issue with i810 and an intel onboard? I really need help.
[03:31] <kaur> spdf: but i have 1016 mb of ram. I don't need a swap as big as that...
[03:31] <skruwilus> thomas_: haha meee
[03:31] <skruwilus> hahaaha
[03:31] <skruwilus> was just sitting and figuing it out
[03:31] <skruwilus> stupid laptop intel shit
[03:31] <thomas_> Cool
[03:31] <thomas_> What have you found out?
[03:31] <skruwilus> well
[03:31] <skruwilus> there is a article
[03:31] <kaur> spdf: but i sure as hell need hibernation...
[03:31] <thomas_> I guess you get the V_Bios thing also?
[03:31] <skruwilus> if you google for
[03:31] <skruwilus> hmm
[03:31] <skruwilus> your inntel name
[03:32] <kaur> spdf: ideas?
[03:32] <thomas_> what gfx card do you exactly have?
[03:32] <sess> !cinelerra
[03:32] <ubotu> cinelerra is a video editor and compositor. Install instructions can be found on http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.html#ubuntu
[03:32] <kaur> spdf: couldn't the hibernation use my primary partition?
[03:32] <acidjames> !info ubuntu
[03:32] <ubotu> Package ubuntu does not exist in any distro I know
[03:32] <milco> for some reason, i seem to have lost my 'nvidia.ko'
[03:32] <otaku515> so I posted it
[03:33] <The_Machine> heh, thsi firewall is smart
[03:33] <milco> the kernel module cannot be found is the message when i try to 'modprobe nvidia'
[03:33] <sess> ubotu's cinerlerra url is broken, maybe cut the /getting_cinelerra.html portion
 You also get the: Bad V_BIOS checksum, and resolution problems?
[03:33] <sess> wow, thats one smart bot
[03:33] <starscalling> totally worked
[03:33] <milco> ive purged / reinstalled / uninstalled /reinstalled nvidia-glx, but i dont seem to get my kernel module back
[03:33] <boink> !essential_tools
[03:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about essential_tools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:33] <milco> what can this be? :(
[03:33] <erUSUL> milco: dis you install restricted modules?
[03:33] <spdf> kaur, suspend2 has both options
[03:33] <starscalling> thanx sess // and co
[03:33] <starscalling> ^_^
[03:33] <Neo8750> The following packages have unmet dependencies: openoffice.org-common: Conflicts: openoffice.org-l10n-en-us
[03:33] <boink> damm, what's that called again? essential tools?
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !build-essential
[03:33] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:33] <milco> erUSUL: restricted modules?
[03:33] <boink> ta
[03:34] <kaur> spdf: thanks.
 You also get the: Bad V_BIOS checksum, and resolution problems?
[03:34] <erUSUL> milco: linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[03:34] <milco> no?
[03:34] <milco> havent used those commands..
[03:35] <milco> should i?
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> jrib: the bot link for cinelella (sp) is broken
[03:35] <erUSUL> milco: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[03:36] <appelza> !info gd
[03:36] <ubotu> Package gd does not exist in any distro I know
[03:36] <appelza> !info php5gd
[03:36] <sess> speaking of which, is there any way for me to get cinelerra using apt/synaptic?  or do i need build it from cvs
[03:36] <ubotu> Package php5gd does not exist in any distro I know
[03:36] <BlueEagle> Is anyone here familiar with fail2ban? I am looking for a way to make <failtime> in the email text into something more useful than a unix timestamp. However I am not sure how I can do that. :/
[03:36] <sess> cause as you know the link is dead
[03:37] <wickedpuppy> so ... whats gd ?
[03:37] <thomas_> Anyone know about the intel issue with i810?
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> sess: http://www.kiberpipa.org/~gandalf/ubuntu/README  cinelerra
[03:37] <wickedpuppy> i still have no idea whats gd ...
[03:37] <appelza> where do the php binaries get installed?
[03:38] <RedGhost> Hey I just compiled and installed the latest ati drivers for amd64, now when trying to launch the control panel I get failed to load libGL.so.1, what package do I need?
[03:38] <appelza> I cant run 'php' from the cmd line
[03:38] <InsydeH2O> BlueEagle: http://fail2ban.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[03:38] <sess> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:38] <wickedpuppy> thomas_, whats wrong with i810 ? pls clarify your question from ubuntu perspective ... so we can help
[03:38] <jrib> appelza: install php5-cli to get /usr/bin/php5
[03:38] <thomas_> wickedpuppy: You see. I can't get the i810 probably installed.
[03:39] <appelza> tnx
[03:39] <spdf> BlueEagle, if the email is hardcoded into the app then its unlikely that you'll be able to change it without a compiling from source
[03:39] <wickedpuppy> thomas_, installing i810? the hardware ?
[03:39] <wickedpuppy> or installing ubuntu on i810 ?
[03:39] <thomas_> wickedpuppy: Well. Everything works, lige opengl and so on. But I can't change to resolution 800x600 and 640x480
[03:40] <thomas_> wickedpuppy: Its a intel gma 900 on intel 915 chipset
[03:40] <wickedpuppy> thomas_, may i ask whats the current resolution ?
[03:40] <thomas_> 1280x800
[03:40] <wickedpuppy> wha
[03:40] <thomas_> But I need the low also
[03:40] <thomas_> And in Xorg.0.log I get:
[03:40] <wickedpuppy> system .... preference .. screen resolution
[03:40] <thomas_> (WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum
[03:40] <erUSUL> appelza: do ldd $(which <binaryphp>) and see if it links against libgd
[03:40] <wickedpuppy> that works 99% of the time
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> thomas_: I assume you have read this or similar..?  http://absolutebeginner.wordpress.com/2006/08/20/absolute-beginner-guide-915resolution/
[03:41] <thomas_> Yup
[03:41] <thomas_> wickedpuppy: Im not that noob ;)
[03:41] <thomas_> Jack_Sparrow: Yes it works perfectly
[03:42] <otaku515> is linux capable of using multiple monitors?
[03:42] <gubuntu> why do i have to play lottery everytime i insert a cd.. rarely it stays mounted.. i just have to keep trying until it sticks
[03:42] <wickedpuppy> thomas_, thanks for the info ... so now i know you are not that noob ... perhaps you can change the resolution from the Xorg.conf ? :P
[03:42] <thomas_> But I think I have read, it is something about the i810 have problems reading the video bios.
[03:42] <sess> what arch should I choose for my amd turion64 running the 32Bit version of Dapper?  I686, or AthlonXP
[03:43] <sess> never been in this position b4
[03:43] <TheManiacKy> HELP I'm having a problem which the best I can describe it as php or apache is cacheing my pages. I want it to render each page every time its ran. I'm running apache2 and PHP 4. Any suggestions?
[03:43] <thomas_> wickedpuppy: I only edit my xorg.conf manually. Don't like kde to do it.
[03:43] <jrib> Jack_Sparrow: thanks, fix requested to http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu
[03:43] <thomas_> wickedpuppy: But I get thhis in my xorg.log
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:43] <thomas_> (II) I810(0): Not using mode "800x600" (no mode of this name)
[03:43] <thomas_> (II) I810(0): Not using mode "640x480" (no mode of this name)
[03:43] <chaos> hehe, I haven't slept yet
[03:43] <thomas_> But 915resolution tells me there is
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> thomas .. you are looking to have mode 50 or 52 correct?
[03:44] <milco> erUSUL: i tried to 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.5-27-386
[03:44] <thomas_> Mode 30 : 640x480, 8 bits/pixel
[03:44] <thomas_> Mode 32 : 800x600, 8 bits/pixel
[03:44] <thomas_> Mode 34 : 1024x768, 8 bits/pixel
[03:44] <thomas_> Mode 38 : 1280x1024, 8 bits/pixel
[03:44] <thomas_> Mode 3a : 1600x1200, 8 bits/pixel
[03:44] <thomas_> Mode 3c : 1280x800, 8 bits/pixel
[03:44] <milco> but i get a error returned that it cannot find te package
[03:44] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell thomas_ about paste
[03:44] <milco> thomas_:  fck off
[03:44] <thomas_> sry...
[03:44] <otaku515> can I change partition formats without formatting my HD?
[03:45] <ChaosFan> !language
[03:45] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:45] <wickedpuppy> pls do not treat each other like that milco  ... :P
[03:45] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell wickedpuppy about u
[03:45] <BlueEagle> :p
[03:45] <thomas_> Jack, did you see my paste * Which I by the way never do again
[03:46] <otaku515> wickedpuppy can I change my NTFS HD in FAT without having to format my entire HD?
[03:46] <erUSUL> !info linux-restricted-modules-2.6.5-27-386
[03:46] <ubotu> Package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.5-27-386 does not exist in any distro I know
[03:46] <erUSUL> !info linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386
[03:46] <ubotu> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386: Non-free Linux 2.6.15 modules on 386. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.11-5 (dapper), package size 7946 kB, installed size 21580 kB
[03:46] <sess> otaku515:  afaik, ntfs cannot be converted to fat without a format, only the other way around
[03:46] <wickedpuppy> otaku515, no ... to change the fs you got to format
[03:46] <otaku515> damn
[03:46] <otaku515> then other question
[03:47] <erUSUL> milco: it is 15 not 5 and it is there ubotu is always right ;)
[03:47] <otaku515> I got my graphics card with video out connected to my TV screen but I only get a very disformed and mutilated image on the TV screen
[03:47] <erUSUL> milco: maybe you need to enable some extra repos
[03:47] <otaku515> can I somewhere find that in linux?
[03:47] <thomas_> Jack_Sparrow: Have any idea? :)
[03:47] <mdasilva_> can anyone recommend a good repository for US/CA?
[03:47] <mdasilva_> im getting alot of connection timeout problems
[03:47] <milco> tried 15 yeah sorry typo..
[03:48] <BlueEagle> !tv
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <BlueEagle> hmm
[03:48] <wickedpuppy> !video out
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video out - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <wickedpuppy> heck
[03:48] <otaku515> >.<
[03:48] <milco> erUSUL: is there a way to find out which repro offers this package?
[03:48] <otaku515> !TVout
[03:48] <sess> otaku515: what kind of video out?  composite is only 320x258 or something lame like taht, so the image is going to interpolated
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about TVout - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <otaku515> !tv out
[03:48] <sess> and that looks AWEFUL
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv out - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <BlueEagle> otaku515: nVidia or ATi?
[03:48] <otaku515> nvidia
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> thomas_: Sorry I was reading...  Have you tried to edit your sudo gedit /etc/default/915resolution   to only mode 32 and that res
[03:48] <BlueEagle> !nvidia
[03:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:48] <erUSUL> milco: check the ubotu msg "In component restricted"
[03:48] <BlueEagle> or google
[03:49] <erUSUL> !info linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386
[03:49] <ubotu> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386: Non-free Linux 2.6.15 modules on 386. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.11-5 (dapper), package size 7946 kB, installed size 21580 kB
[03:49] <BlueEagle> otaku515: google nvidia tv out linux xorg
[03:49] <otaku515> ow
[03:49] <BlueEagle> otaku515: that should provide relevant information
[03:49] <milco> erUSUL: i dont get it, the machine im typing on
[03:49] <milco> used the same sources.list
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[03:49] <milco> and does have that package installed
[03:50] <thomas_> Jack_Sparrow: Thats ok. Thank you for the time. I can't switch to 640x480 or 800x600, either if 915resolutiuon is uninstalled or installed.
[03:50] <mdasilva_> man i need a good sources.list
[03:50] <xopher> Is there a text to speech app available in the repos?
[03:50] <mdasilva_> freakn timeouts wtf
[03:50] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell mdasilva_ about easysource
[03:50] <mdasilva_> yes please do
[03:50] <thomas_> Jack_Sparrow: It inly got the effect, so I could change to 1280x800
[03:50] <NaMcO^> hi there are a guide to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.06.1 by CD-ROM ???
[03:50] <BlueEagle> mdasilva_: ubotu should have sendt you a /msg
[03:50] <Nilvio> enyone know what i need do if i have broken packages ?
[03:50] <erUSUL> milco: try  apt-cache search linux-restricted-modules
[03:51] <mdasilva_> i'll try that
[03:51] <erUSUL> milco: what do you get ??
[03:51] <mdasilva_> appreciate it BlueEagle
[03:51] <BlueEagle> mdasilva_: np. :)
[03:51] <skruwilus>  nx6110 ooh
[03:51] <BlueEagle> mdasilva_: Be aware that cipherfunk and plf has been (and might still be) defunkt.
[03:51] <milco> erUSUL: a whole list...
[03:51] <gubuntu> why do i have to play lottery everytime i insert a cd.. rarely it stays mounted.. i just have to keep trying until it sticks
[03:51] <BlueEagle> defunked*
[03:52] <mdasilva_> ive tried ca and us repositories
[03:52] <skruwilus> that compile fucked my lappy up
[03:52] <wickedpuppy> gubuntu, not my experience ...
[03:52] <milco> erUSUL: http://pastebin.ca/179758
[03:52] <mdasilva_> and ive gotten a few timeout  and gzip errors
[03:52] <skruwilus> renice perhaps would have been a good idea
[03:52] <mdasilva_> ive never had such apt issues
[03:52] <erUSUL> milco: choose the one that maches your kernel...
[03:53] <gubuntu> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda,
[03:53] <gubuntu> missing codepage or other error
[03:53] <gubuntu> in some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[03:53] <erUSUL> matches*
[03:53] <milco> erUSUL: this is on the machine on which i have that package isntalled already...
[03:53] <milco> if i try it on the other machine... where i need the linux-restricted-modules package.. im sure i get nothing to see....
[03:55] <milco> erUSUL: as expected apt-cache search linux-restricted-modules, outputs nada
[03:55] <harisund> Hello! I was just wondering, can BIND be used in a local network? As in I have 4 computers at home, plus my room mates have 1 or 2 each .. and we are all in a LAN here.. will BIND be handy?
[03:55] <otaku515> restricted copyright is that Multiverse in repository edit?
[03:55] <erUSUL> milco: in linux-restricted modules is where you have nvidia.ko you have to install it to the nvidia driver to work... i do not know what else to say or do to help you out... you have to install that package matching your kernel. The package is in the repos you may have to enable mare repos in the machine check your sources.list
[03:55] <wickedpuppy> edit ?
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> mdasilva_: I must ask... Have you run scripts like Automatix, (NOT recommending that you do.) to install anything?
[03:55] <CzarAlex> apache2 is not logging to access.log but it is to error.log, how can I get it to log to access.log again? It used to but stopped a few weeks ago.
[03:56] <otaku515> yeah
[03:56] <mdasilva_> nope
[03:56] <otaku515> when adding a channel
[03:56] <milco> multiverse is in my sources-list..
[03:56] <otaku515> you got for check boxes
[03:56] <mdasilva_> ive kinda been half assn this since im pretty busy at work
[03:56] <wickedpuppy> repository edit ? what does it mean ?
[03:56] <thomas_> Jack_Sparrow: I ran also automatix. Is that bad?
[03:56] <appelza> CzarAlex: chown -R www-data /var/log/apache2
[03:56] <otaku515> I had to go to synaptic
[03:56] <milco> erUSUL: at least you could tell me what is wrong with it, thanks a lot m8 :-))
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> thomas_: Really really bad... yes
[03:56] <otaku515> software preferences
[03:56] <otaku515> then add
[03:56] <milco> wickedpuppy: stop being useless
[03:57] <thomas_> Jack_Sparrow: And I have had installed aiglx and compiz before.
[03:57] <CzarAlex> appelza What does the -R do?
[03:57] <Dave> morning from los angeles area
[03:57] <thomas_> Jack_Sparrow: Why?
[03:57] <appelza> recursive
[03:57] <CzarAlex> appelza ah so it affects the whole dir. okay one moment.
[03:57] <otaku515> then in the edit repository I had to make sure restricted copyright was checked on
[03:57] <Dave> new to ubuntu, need some help, anyone up to it?
[03:57] <stiz> I have some questions about offcial ati driver installation and 'aticonfig', such as refresh rate, full screen tv out 'theater mode', hardware overlay, etc... here at the forums   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=9888106af665431b047fdec0775c9aff&t=261106    I was wondering if someone wasnt busy could help? thanks
[03:57] <wickedpuppy> lol ... milco ... i don't know asking questions is being useless ... ok then i will leave otaku515 problem to you .. i go watch tv
[03:57] <wickedpuppy> cya
[03:57] <jbroome> !ask
[03:57] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> thomas_: 95% of the time it is fine. the 1 in 20 get hosed long after they run it...
[03:58] <harisund> Anyone?
[03:58] <CzarAlex> appelza no change :(
[03:58] <milco> wickedpuppy: im not going to repeat myself.
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> thomas_: If you have run that script and get bizarre problems, we refer you to Automatix channel... but there is no help or hope...
[03:59] <malice_> ? How does one install the tor button in firefox? Tools/extensions does not give me the option to add or anything.
[03:59] <thomas_> Jack_Sparrow: Ok, but I really think there is a bug in the i810
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> thomas_: For those that insist on running it... we tell them to be sure to have a full backup....
[04:00] <erUSUL> malice_: go to the home page of the extension and install from there
[04:00] <thomas_> Jack_Sparrow: Several get the (WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum
[04:00] <fdoving> sess: cinelerra url fixed. thanks for noticing.
[04:00] <dswillia74437> good morning all, I just installed Dapper Server install and would like to upgrade to the i686 kernel, what is the procedure using apt?
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> thomas_: YEs, the i810 has a problem
[04:00] <sess> fdoving: my pleasure
[04:00] <thomas_> Jack_Sparrow: You know if it will be fixed? Or if there is a workaround?
[04:01] <malice_> erusul: I went to firefox home page and they wanted me to download it so I did then I went by there instructions and I do not have the option to add under extensions
[04:01] <malice_> in firefox
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> thomas, I have no idea.. I assume with as many of them as there are that someone will have a fix.  How soon. No idea...
[04:02] <erUSUL> malice_: i have installed a number of extensions. the process is: you go to the webpage click on a install link wait until it is installed then restart firefox and is done
[04:02] <erUSUL> malice_: have you restarted firefox?
[04:02] <malice_> no
[04:02] <malice_> I will try that
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> thomas_: I would assume that installing compiz did not help your situation
[04:02] <malice_> I just clicked on save as
[04:02] <CzarAlex> apache2 is not logging to access.log but it is to error.log, how can I get it to log to access.log again? It used to but stopped a few weeks ago. is chowned all log files to www-data and there was no change. Suggestions?
[04:02] <malice_> and saved it to desktop
[04:02] <malice_> your saying just click on the file
[04:02] <thomas_> Jack_Sparrow: Actually it runs compiz with aiglx wonderful
[04:03] <otaku515> how do I know which linux-restricted-modules I need?
[04:03] <thomas_> Jack_Sparrow: But when it has to change the resolution, I run into problems
[04:03] <malice_> hehe nevermind
[04:03] <malice_> dah
[04:03] <malice_> :)
[04:03] <phantom_thief> im having problems installing ubuntu.....getting kernel panic error....any1 has the same exp b4?
[04:03] <malice_> thank you
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Like the doctor says.. If it hurts when you do that... dont do it...  Sorry, not trying to make light of your problem..
[04:04] <otaku515> how do I know which linux-restricted-module I need?
[04:04] <malice_> I need more coffee and need to think before I type a question
[04:04] <malice_> :P
[04:04] <CzarAlex> phantom_thief are ya using the proper ubuntu format? (i386?)
[04:04] <pawsilver> hi there
[04:05] <Canuck> G'morning,  I am looking for a linux native CD Ripper that will covert to MP3, I have tried Grip and Sound Juicer both weren't able to detect music on CD
[04:05] <thomas_> Jack_Sparrow: I guess :-) But I suppose im lucky, it was the low resolutions I can't change to.
[04:05] <dfgas> anyone have issues with mysql on dapper?
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> People, it has been fun, but I need to go to work...   Play nice.... I'll check in later
[04:05] <otaku515> can anyone help me ?
[04:05] <dfgas> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[04:05] <dfgas> error: 'Access denied for user 'dfgas'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[04:05] <dfgas> root@celly700:/var/www/phpmyadmin#
[04:05] <thomas_> Thanks for your help
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> otaku515: DOnt you have access to that ntfs yet?
[04:06] <otaku515> no its not that
[04:06] <dfgas> or even root for that matter
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> ok
[04:06] <otaku515> I am trying to instal my Nvidia card
[04:06] <dswillia74437> good morning all, I just installed Dapper Server install and would like to upgrade to the i686 kernel, what is the procedure using apt?
[04:06] <otaku515> but it suddenly says I need to find the appropraite linux-restricted module
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> thomas_: np, take care
[04:06] <CzarAlex> dfgas I had that problem too but tried to log in to phpmyadmin as root and it worked anyways..
[04:06] <otaku515> but how do I know which one is right for my kernel?
[04:06] <phantom_thief> spams?
[04:07] <phantom_thief> omg
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> otaku515: look at the kernel you are running and match the number
[04:07] <otaku515> where can I find the kernel >.<
[04:07] <stiz> dswillia74437, linux-686   or linux-686-smp for multi cpu/core or hyperthreading
[04:07] <CzarAlex> phantom_thief what kinda comp do you have?
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> uname -a
[04:07] <otaku515> Linux ellery-desktop 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:07] <otaku515> then I get that
[04:08] <sunnz2> What is the program that asks for a password when you try to do sudo in a GUI?
[04:08] <phantom_thief> czarAlex a sony vaio p2 with 192MB of ram
[04:08] <otaku515> is 2.6.15.26.386 the kernel?
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> 2.6.15.26 i686
[04:08] <CzarAlex> phantom_thief and what ubuntu are ya trying to install?
[04:08] <otaku515> soka
[04:08] <phantom_thief> latest version...jz received it via mail
[04:08] <dfgas> CzarAlex, any idea if i could change my password, the begining of my password isn't there
[04:08] <CzarAlex> phantom_thief for PCs? or AMD?
[04:08] <phantom_thief> PCs
[04:08] <mdasilva_> is the PLF repository still working?
[04:09] <phantom_thief> checked forum....some1 had the similiar error but no solution
[04:09] <phantom_thief> using a non-bootable usb cdrom
[04:09] <CzarAlex> phantom_thief well my only guess was that perhaps ya were using the wrong version but that sounds okay. Ive heard of issues regarding ubuntu and laptops..perhaps that could be it?
[04:09] <phantom_thief> used loadlin to run the image...half way thru kernel panic error
[04:09] <phantom_thief> wrong version? please explain
[04:10] <elmargol> Should i use gpg mime or gpg inline?
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386
[04:10] <botxj> when i try to start my xgl server it crashes and says "no screens found"
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> otaku515: I use both kernels
[04:11] <phantom_thief> any further ideas czarAlex?
[04:11] <CzarAlex> phantom_thief like using the 64-But PC or MAC version instead of the PC one.
[04:11] <NaMcO^> hi there are a guide to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.06.1 by CD-ROM ???
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> otaku515: I have restricted modeules for both installed
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> otaku515: gotta run... Hope that helps
[04:12] <phantom_thief> CzarAlex: oh? can it work then?
[04:13] <NaMcO^> hi there are a guide to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.06.1 by CD-ROM ???
[04:13] <shriphani> guys what is a good cd burning app
[04:14] <stiz> i think just using apt/synaptic will upgrade you to the newest NaMcO^
[04:14] <NaMcO^> hi there are a guide to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.06.1 by CD-ROM ???
[04:14] <CzarAlex> phantom_thief Im not sure what you`ll have to do to get it to work on a laptop
[04:14] <NaMcO^> sorry but...
[04:15] <shriphani> 6.06.1 ?
[04:15] <mdasilva_> what does apt mean when it says     Ign <url>  sources ?
[04:15] <mdasilva_> what is Ign?
[04:15] <jpjacobs> shriphani, k3b is the best, but if you're not willing to installe kdelibs graveman or gnomebaker are also ok
[04:15] <phantom_thief> i got this link via the forum.....but i don think is able to work for me www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=247549&highlight=kernel+panic
[04:15] <NaMcO^> try nerolinux..
[04:15] <shriphani> thx
[04:16] <NaMcO^> but its not gratis..
[04:17] <jasondotgnu> Is there something wrong with libasound in dapper?
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> and I  hear k3b is much better then NeroLinux
[04:17] <bradbury> k3b rocks
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> bradbury,  yep - it seems to do its job very well. :)
[04:18] <Canuck> Gnome Baker
[04:18] <ladydoor> Hey everyone...I hadn't rebooted my computer since that kernel upgrade that apparently screwed with grub. When I tried to boot, I got a black screen & when I tried to boot to recovery mode I got a kernel panic error because it couldn't load on unknown block (0,0). I'm currently running the previous kernel in normal-mode. What in menu.lst do I need to fix?
[04:18] <bradbury> anyone knows how to sync video to an ipod video?
[04:19] <jasondotgnu> alsamixer: relocation error: alsamixer: symbol snd_mixer_selem_get_playback_dB, version ALSA_0.9 not defined in file libasound.so.2 with link time reference
[04:19] <bionoid> bradbury: Video? I'd be happy if someone could tell me how to get music to it :\
[04:19] <bradbury> bionoid, try gtkpod
[04:19] <bradbury> and for the photos you can try GPixPod
[04:20] <ladydoor> I should perhaps also note that the root line for the nonfunctional kernel is exactly the same as the one for my current (working) kernel.
[04:20] <botxj> what is /dev/wacom ?
[04:20] <bradbury> now I'm looking for soft to put video
[04:20] <mdasilva_> how can i get a connectin timed out to  http:/us.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[04:20] <mdasilva_> ...
[04:21] <mdasilva_> nm
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> mdasilva_,  remove the us. part - that server may be down
[04:21] <linuxd00d> hey guys
[04:23] <mdasilva_> i'll try that thnks
[04:23] <tristanmike> Is there a chat program, like Gaim, that allowes my MSN buddies to see what I'm currently playing in Rhythmbox/Amarok ? Like media player does ?
[04:24] <ladydoor> tristanmike: that sounds like something a plugin might do
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> tristanmike,  many of the media players have plugin features that can do that.. and No i dont know the specifics. :P
[04:24] <ladydoor> tristanmike: maybe not a plugin that *exists* yet, but maybe it does. you might try going to gaim's website and browsing their plugins
[04:24] <tristanmike> Dr_Willis: I didn't really think about checking the media player options.
[04:25] <ladydoor> tristanmike: or...you could just tell them what you're listening to yourself...
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> well a plugin for the media player. may send the info to gaim or whatever...
[04:25] <tristanmike> ladydoor: yeah, they don't have any, I was on #gaim, they said the plugin's that do that are terrible, but I'll look around :P
[04:25] <tristanmike> ladydoor: LOL
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> gee how terriable can they be. :)
[04:25] <jelly> is there an easy way to set up an ad-hoc wireless network?  I have two laptops, one is connected to the wired net, one is not, and I don't have an access point.
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> other then tha fact that no one really cares what you are listening to. :)
[04:25] <tristanmike> Dr_Willis: touche
[04:26] <Falstius> maybe I'm just old, but why they want to know what you're listening to ..
[04:26] <tristanmike> Falstius: I like to force it on them, whether they like it or not :P
[04:30] <mdasilva_> anyone having problems getting http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/universe/source/Sources.gz ?
[04:30] <mdasilva_> im getting  a connection time out at around 75%
[04:30] <mdasilva_> even in a web browser
[04:30] <xuanfry> algun espaol?
[04:30] <stiz> works here mdasilva_
[04:30] <ladydoor> !es
[04:30] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:32] <Canuck> anyone know a better ripper then Grip? linux or wine executed?
[04:33] <ladydoor> Canuck: check out crip...it's pretty great
[04:33] <ladydoor> Canuck: *and* it lets you edit filenames and tags downloaded from the music database thingy in your favorite text editor
[04:34] <Canuck> ladydoor: What formats will it handle? Sounds good so far :)
[04:34] <bradbury> does anyone know why #ubuntu-es requires nick registration? I dont think it is useful...
[04:35] <ladydoor> Canuck: well, ok...here's the thing. it's a pretty simple script, and unless you get the very earliest version (apparently it hasn't needed to evolve much, being a script) it only supports ogg. v.01 or whatever supports mp3 though.
[04:35] <ladydoor> Canuck: *shrug*. so it's just a matter of preference i guess
[04:36] <Canuck> ladydoor: as the output? I have mp4 primarily as the rip from format eh
[04:37] <stiz> is there a 'theater mode' for the official ati.com drivers for linux like therre is for windows?   full screen video on my tv no matter if i have it minimized on my computer screen.  Also how wihat is the difference in overlay modes in aticonfig..  opengl or Xv? how do I enable it so all videos played are in hardware overlay?
[04:37] <NET||abuse> does anyone else have problems iwth pptpconfig?
[04:37] <NET||abuse> i've installed it on 2 ocasions
[04:38] <NET||abuse> both times it won't do the client to lan tunnel right
[04:38] <Canuck> ladydoor Just pulled it off synaptic will see for myself lol :)
[04:38] <ladydoor> Canuck: so they're not in cdda? i thought that to have a working audio cd you had to use that format
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> stiz,  not that i have ever seen.
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> stiz,  that is a nice feauture  - i use it with my laptop and tv out all the time under windows.
[04:39] <ladydoor> I should perhaps also note that the root line for the nonfunctional kernel is exactly the same as the one for my current (working) kernel. Aaaand...the root line for the new kernel is identical to that of the old one.
[04:39] <ladydoor> wait, no no
[04:40] <ladydoor> Hey everyone...I hadn't rebooted my computer since that kernel upgrade that apparently screwed with grub. When I tried to boot, I got a black screen & when I tried to boot to recovery mode I got a kernel panic error because it couldn't load on unknown block (0,0). I'm currently running the previous kernel in normal-mode. What in menu.lst do I need to fix?
[04:40] <stiz> all video played through ubuntu's media players is played through gstreamer?  so If i want to set all video played to hardware overlay it would be an option in gstreamer? where do i find it? im just guessing on this
[04:41] <stiz> and wich is "better" opengl overlay or Xv ?
[04:41] <ladydoor> stiz: it doesn't *have* to be gstreamer. i uninstalled gstreamer and installed xine, for example.
[04:43] <mdasilva_> im having the worst luck with this
[04:43] <mdasilva_> wth
[04:43] <NET||abuse> anyone got any clue what cipherfunk.org ..... oohhhhhhhh, i was lookin for w32codecs
[04:43] <mdasilva_> failed to fetch .... bzip2 returned an error code
[04:43] <mdasilva_> whats wrong with my apt?
[04:43] <NET||abuse> want to play wmv files... i found things saying add cipherfunk.org to your sources, they have a w32codecs pack,,
[04:44] <NET||abuse> but it's broken,,, anyone else know what i can do to get wmv stuff??
[04:44] <ladydoor> NET||abuse: word is cipherfunk is dead...
[04:44] <stiz> i havent messed with video players yet, i guess i should find one i like first then go from there, im used to Media Player Classic in windows for years now
[04:44] <czer323> Is there an easy way to troubleshoot preference files in Gnome?  I have an issue with nm-applet and other programs not automatically running at startup and not appearing in the Notification window.  A new test user shows that everything is fine there.  Short of pulling ALL of my preferences... Is there a good place to start looking for information?
[04:44] <Neo8750> does anyone know the command that is run by the install icon on the live cd??
[04:45] <NET||abuse> ladydoor, is there an alternative for getting the codecs to play wmv?
[04:45] <czer323> NET||abuse> I believe Easyubuntu can do that for you.
[04:45] <czer323> !easyubuntu
[04:45] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[04:45] <unfknblvbl> oi jrib the download link doesn't work now >.<
[04:46] <Canuck> Anyone else seeing this error while install packages  "g: clvm  redhat-cluster-suite   system-config-cluster   E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:46] <ladydoor> NET||abuse: i don't know...i didn't use wmv even in windows
[04:46] <Gosty> can somebody help me with xubuntu installation?
[04:47] <stiz> hmm easyubuntu, looks interesting
[04:47] <NET||abuse> ;) ladydoor ahh well that easyubuntu thing should sort me out :)
[04:47] <TheGateKeeper> just done an update and get this error with Flash install ----> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24389  is there a way to reinstall the previous version?
[04:47] <NET||abuse> now i just have to get netBeans workin with Xgl
[04:48] <NET||abuse> have friends who are as geeky as me coming over tonight, wana get this machine workin tip top so i can show off ;)
[04:48] <Gosty> i cant install xubuntu because on a desktop isnt installation icon
[04:48] <fildo> hey people. im getting this error when starting ubuntu . "bug: soft lockup detected on CPU#0" > anyone have an idea on a solution ?
[04:49] <SillyZ> gmornin
[04:49] <NET||abuse> i'm havin issues with the gnome application database, seemingly it's not letting me assign programs to file types
[04:50] <NET||abuse> oh wait, it was on gnome smb mounted files
[04:50] <NET||abuse> it's a bit strange
[04:51] <soon> I have LyX 1.3.7 installed (its the standard in the repo), but 1.4.2 and 1.4.3 have been released ... how can I get later versions?
[04:51] <MaTRiX_Do_PHP> aro..
[04:51] <erUSUL> fildo: report it to launchpad in kernel
[04:51] <erUSUL> !bugs
[04:51] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[04:51] <MaTRiX_Do_PHP> galera como eu fao pra configurar minha net que ja e compartilhada de um rede so que entra pela eth1  quero q saia pela eth0 usando iptables pra poder compartilhar com outro pc aq em casa?
[04:51] <erUSUL> !pt
[04:51] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[04:51] <MaTRiX_Do_PHP> aushaush
[04:51] <MaTRiX_Do_PHP> canal grigo.. malz..
[04:53] <CroX> Does WoW run on ubuntu?
[04:53] <botxj> i dont think so CroX
[04:53] <botxj> probably under an emulator perhaps
[04:53] <krazykit> CroX: in wine, yes, it runs acceptable, i hear
[04:53] <Torched> then again, WoW sucks
[04:53] <mjr> CroX, with some tweaking and assuming a x86 Ubuntu, yes. You will have to go through some trouble for it though.
[04:53] <Torched> so...it's a judgement call really
[04:53] <CroX> x86_64 :/
[04:54] <botxj> dont fret, i have x86_64
[04:54] <CroX> Torched: Don't wanna play, just wondering
[04:54] <CroX> botxj: I hate it .. so limited it seems
[04:54] <mjr> CroX, well, that should work too, though you just added some more tweaking on top of the general WoW tweaking ;)
[04:54] <CroX> How about steam?
[04:54] <botxj> yeah it is llimited
[04:54] <CroX> mjr: Heh
[04:54] <botxj> but in a few years, 64 bit will rock in all software
[04:54] <krazykit> CroX: last time i tried steam, it didn't work.  keep in mind this was a year ago, and WINE has come a long way
[04:54] <NET||abuse> can anyone tell me how i can change the default media player?
[04:55] <ikonia> yeah - totem blows
[04:55] <botxj> who came up with the name totem?
[04:55] <krazykit> for what it's worth, CroX, check out http://appdb.winehq.org/
[04:55] <scrp> krazykit: isnt it better to just use VMware?
[04:55] <scrp> botxj: some shaman i guess
[04:55] <krazykit> scrp: god no.  vmware's hardware accel sucks.
[04:55] <botxj> lol
[04:56] <krazykit> and is very unstable, in my experience
[04:56] <scrp> krazykit: mmk
[04:56] <krazykit> WINE does dx7 very well, dx8 pretty darn well, and is getting rather good at dx9
[04:56] <krazykit> and doesn't have the massive overhead of vmware
[04:57] <mjr> of course, WoW runs direct with OpenGL too so you don't have to emulate
[04:57] <mjr> (emulate dx; of course you have to still emulate the rest ;)
[04:57] <mjr> CroX, anyway, if you were interested, http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit
[04:57] <krazykit> WINE Is Not an Emulator :-(
[04:57] <CroX> Thanks
[04:57] <botxj> wine IS an emulator
[04:57] <krazykit> no, it isn't
[04:57] <Rookie-> !wine
[04:57] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:57] <tristanmike> no, it isn't
[04:57] <botxj> then what is it
[04:58] <botxj> ok, it's a pretend emulator
[04:58] <Rookie-> you can call wine for a bridge
[04:58] <krazykit> it's a reimplementation of the Windows API using POSIX calls
[04:58] <mehteenager> Howdy.
[04:58] <tristanmike> botxj: it implements windows api's in linux, iirc
[04:58] <mjr> krazykit is correct, pedantically
[04:58] <botxj> oh, that explains why the GUIs totally suck in them
[04:59] <krazykit> you can add .theme files, iirc
[04:59] <mjr> though, if we're pedantic, Wine actually does want more than POSIX, but... ;)
[04:59] <botxj> ok, time for me to go to work
[04:59] <botxj> screw you XGL
[04:59] <krazykit> zomg
[04:59] <krazykit> tiberian sun is on the platinum list!
[04:59] <gnomefreak> Wine's name says: "Wine Is Not an Emulator" :)
[04:59] <h0ax> hello
[04:59] <gnomefreak> http://www.winehq.com/site/myths
[05:00] <mehteenager> hrh
[05:00] <mehteenager> heh*
[05:00] <krazykit> it's one of *nix's lovely recursive acronyms
[05:00] <gnomefreak> botxj: vmware is a Emulator
[05:01] <skar123> hi, i'm on breezy, using firefox 1.5.0.6 and flash sites don't display text in the flash
[05:01] <krazykit> skar123: they're probably flash 8+
[05:01] <skar123> found that gsfonts-x11 is needed but after installing and restarting ff didn't help
[05:01] <h0ax> hello im having a slight problem, linux says it has my drivers installed for my sound and i hear nothing =/
[05:01] <skar123> krazykit: nope gentoo box with flash 7 displays correctly though
[05:01] <Overand> If linux is talking to you, then you have a serious problem (;;
[05:02] <h0ax> lol
[05:02] <Overand> h0ax: have you checked the 'mixer' ?
[05:02] <h0ax> yeah
[05:02] <Overand> ack... hi krazykit
[05:02] <mehteenager> I have had that too.
[05:02] <mehteenager> Pertaining to skar123's issue.
[05:02] <gpro> !java
[05:02] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:03] <Rookie-> !flashplayer
[05:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:03] <krazykit> Overand: :-O
[05:03] <h0ax> sis s17012 (alsa mixer)
[05:04] <h0ax> is the driver i have selected
[05:04] <gpro> !list
[05:04] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[05:04] <sunnz2> What is the program that ask you for your password when you try to do root stuff?
[05:04] <krazykit> sunnz2: sudo
[05:04] <h0ax> anyone got a clue wats up ?
[05:04] <sunnz2> The GUI one?
[05:05] <h0ax> eh
[05:05] <skar123> hmm so i'm with no solution for this flash text problem then?
[05:05] <sunnz2> What is the GUI program that ask you for your password when you try to do root stuff?
[05:05] <skar123> gksudo
[05:05] <krazykit> sunnz2: gksudo
[05:05] <sunnz2> Ahh
[05:05] <sunnz2> Ok thanks
[05:06] <gpro> !search j2sdk
[05:06] <h0ax> wah
[05:06] <TheGateKeeper> anyone know who to install a previous version of something after an update?
[05:06] <forevertheuni> hi again..
[05:06] <h0ax> what is the root command please is it, sudo passwd root ?
[05:07] <gpro> !find j2sdk
[05:07] <ubotu> Found: j2sdk1.4, j2sdk1.4-demo, j2sdk1.4-doc, j2sdk1.4-src
[05:07] <gpro> !j2sdk1.4
[05:07] <ubotu> j2sdk1.4: Blackdown Java(TM) 2 SDK, Standard Edition. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.4.2.02-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 3462 kB, installed size 7856 kB (Only available for i386)
[05:07] <forevertheuni> well..2 questions. I've created a dm crypted partition and inserted it in crypttab and now in boot time it asks me about the password I wanted to only asks the password on demand after the login what's the option in crypttab to do that?there's nothing in man crypttab
[05:08] <forevertheuni> the other thing is..how can I make nautilus "see " my /dev/mapper/crypt?
[05:08] <gpro> !eclipse
[05:08] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 100 kB, installed size 368 kB
[05:08] <tarvid> where are the abiword plugins installed?
[05:09] <gpro> !find apache
[05:09] <ubotu> Found: libapache2-mod-auth-mysql, libapache2-mod-auth-pam, libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql, libapache2-mod-auth-plain, libapache2-mod-auth-sys-group (and 147 others)
[05:09] <gpro> !apache
[05:09] <ubotu> offically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)
[05:12] <plutten> someone here run ubuntu on a compaq presario v6000 ?
[05:12] <RichardC> hey
[05:12] <RichardC> what's the safest way to write to an ntfs partition in linux?
[05:12] <hipertracker> Where can I find newer libapache2-mod-php4 (with php4.4.4)?. current library is USELESS, because it has NO mysqlL. I need mod_php4 with xmldom and mysql. I am using the latest Ubuntu server. I cannot use php5 because my old code will break. I cannot compile php4.4.4 because I need libxml > 1.14. The problem is, I have already libxml 2.6.24...
[05:13] <Subhuman> RichardC, with "ntfs-3g"
[05:13] <Subhuman> google it.
[05:13] <gpro> Hello, how do I search on console for a certain lib to see if it is already installed?
[05:13] <RichardC> alright
[05:13] <RichardC> thanks
[05:13] <krazykit> gpro: slocate
[05:13] <krazykit> gpro: or just check in apt for the package.
[05:13] <gpro> thx!
[05:13] <erUSUL> gpro: apt-cache search packagename
[05:13] <gpro> nice...
[05:13] <gpro> thx
[05:14] <CVirus> why do most of the people recommend installing Ubuntu then installing KDE instead of using Kubuntu ?
[05:14] <krazykit> gpro: slocate will fine any file with the string you search for... so you could do slocate libsomething
[05:14] <krazykit> CVirus: do they?
[05:14] <CVirus> LOL
[05:14] <krazykit> CVirus: i've only heard "for kde use kubuntu"
[05:14] <CVirus> krazykit: fine
[05:15] <plutten> Someone solved the problem with nvidia drivers or is it still the nv driver you have to use?
[05:15] <krazykit> ubuntu, kubuntu, and xubuntu are really just different installers and package sets.  they share the same repos, for the most part.
[05:16] <gpro> Is it possible to have both libapache2-mod-php5 and libapache2-mod-php4 installed?
[05:16] <sooki> anyone know how to change the refreshrate post-nvidia driver installed? my two previous methods won't do it, i'm wondering if nvidia's drivers come with a config i'm unaware of
[05:17] <plutten> Someone running ubuntu on compaq presario v6000 laptop ?
[05:17] <Yggdrasil> im just curious has totem ever worked in the existence of humanity ? is this what were supposed to be using ?
[05:17] <DJGummikuh> can someone tell me how to install ati drivers under ubuntu?
[05:17] <Yggdrasil> it wont even play an mp3
[05:18] <gpro> totem sucks!
[05:18] <Yggdrasil> why is it even installed on my system
[05:18] <M_A_K> Is the keep (Backup) program in kde a good tool to use for backing up my /home folder or should I use something like tar or rsync?
[05:18] <Yggdrasil> and why is it the default player for everythign
[05:18] <gpro> good question
[05:18] <gpro> HAHAHH
[05:18] <Yggdrasil> jeezuz
[05:18] <gpro> get VLC
[05:18] <Yggdrasil> im just wondering is there somethign i dont know why would ubuntu ship with it
[05:19] <mdasilva_> dang
[05:19] <Yggdrasil> hahh i apt-removed it and it still is there
[05:19] <mdasilva_> so it was my stupid onboard nic that ubuntu didnt like
[05:19] <gpro> no clue... must be a debian thing.
[05:19] <NET||abuse> grrr, easyubuntu isn't opening
[05:19] <NET||abuse> :(
[05:19] <NET||abuse> click the menu icon, notin happen
[05:19] <gpro> hahahah
[05:20] <gpro> Is it possible to have both libapache2-mod-php5 and libapache2-mod-php4 installed?
[05:20] <Fjutrackx> NET||abuse, look on the site from easyubuntu
[05:20] <Fjutrackx> after the OR
[05:20] <mdasilva_> halleleuyah
[05:20] <Fjutrackx> simple automatic install
[05:20] <mdasilva_> straight up
[05:20] <gpro> I did an apt-cache search for both... and I got a return for both.
[05:20] <NET||abuse> Fjutrackx, i've installed it
[05:20] <mdasilva_> a nic that likes to time out is not fun
[05:21] <NET||abuse> Fjutrackx, this is the icon it adds to the Applications menu
[05:21] <NET||abuse> Fjutrackx, click on it and nothing come up...
[05:21] <Fjutrackx> NeilyBoy, it's normal i think
[05:21] <Fjutrackx> got the same :p
[05:22] <RichardC> Subhuman: to install fuse (which i need for ntfs-3g), can i install from apt, or do i need to compile from source
[05:22] <[BTF] Chm0d> hey guys I am at the following page http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Breezy and am trying to do the very first thing which is sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc gcc-3.4 and i getsudo: apt: command not found can anyone help me with this please?
[05:22] <Subhuman> RichardC, fuse from apt shouldbe fine
[05:22] <RichardC> which package
[05:22] <Fjutrackx> but, Can somebody help me? i can't find howto change screensavers in ubuntu dapper
[05:22] <josh_> does ubuntu support directfb yet?
[05:22] <RichardC> package(s)
[05:23] <josh_> i really want to run quingy like i did on redhat but it seems ubuntu cant.....
[05:23] <mdasilva_> *sheds a tear*
[05:24] <mdasilva_> its not stalling....
[05:24] <mdasilva_> its not stalling......
[05:24] <erUSUL> Fjutrackx: System>Preferences>Screensaver ??
[05:24] <bombero> hi friends, im looking for a vector-graphic-app
[05:24] <salahmiftah2> XDAASD
[05:24] <erUSUL> bombero: inkscape
[05:25] <bombero> erUSUL, thanx
[05:25] <RichardC> Subhuman: dont think apt will work. ntfs-3g requires v2.5.0 or newer, and apt still has 2.4.2
[05:25] <Fjutrackx> erUSUL, tha's the prob, there's no button anymore :s
[05:25] <salahmiftah2> DFTRT5WDWEDDRETYTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
[05:26] <chillmode> helo everybody.. im trying to install vlc in synaptic but the package dont exist
[05:27] <bluefox83> !flash
[05:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:28] <therp> excuse me, install libc6-amd64 on a non-64bit won't blow up my whole system, won't it?
[05:29] <[BTF] Chm0d> anyone available to answer a question?
[05:29] <zaggynl> sure
[05:29] <[BTF] Chm0d> ok thx
[05:30] <[BTF] Chm0d> im at the following site trying method 2 of the nvidia drivers
[05:30] <[BTF] Chm0d> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074
[05:31] <[BTF] Chm0d> actually its this one sorry
[05:31] <[BTF] Chm0d> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Breezy
[05:31] <[BTF] Chm0d> i get this error on the first step of method 2 sudo: apt: command not found
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> [BTF] Chm0d,  and whats the command line you are entering? Im guessing a typo/extra space.. 'apt-get'
[05:32] <[BTF] Chm0d> so apt-get is together?
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> the command is 'apt-get'
[05:32] <[BTF] Chm0d> sorry new to ubuntu :)
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:33] <[BTF] Chm0d> thought it was a switch
[05:33] <[BTF] Chm0d> :P
[05:33] <[BTF] Chm0d> lemme give that a try thank you very much
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> i rember computer bools years ago that were sure to mention that i and 1 were different and 0 and o were different also. :P
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> heh...
[05:33] <bluefox83> is there a problem with the flash package in apt?
[05:33] <[BTF] Chm0d> hehe
[05:33] <silent_scream> hey i just configures lirc! how can i control applications such as gnomeradio and tvtime with my remote now??
[05:33] <[BTF] Chm0d> no 1 is on and 0 is off :P
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> bluefox83,  i hear there is.
[05:33] <bluefox83> crap :X
[05:33] <mdasilva_> apt-get and par2 are genius
[05:33] <bluefox83> i can't seem to get flash to install at all :(
[05:34] <TheGateKeeper> bluefox83: get it from here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplugin-nonfree_7.0.68~ubuntu2_i386.deb
[05:34] <bluefox83> or, i get it to install, but firefox can't seem to pick it up
[05:35] <TheGateKeeper> bluefox83: they messed up again :-( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1521613
[05:37] <bluefox83> TheGateKeeper, still failed
[05:38] <silent_scream> i just configured lirc! how can i control applications such as gnomeradio and tvtime with my remote now??
[05:38] <brosnan> Is there a popular gnome based RSS feed reader?
[05:38] <TheGateKeeper> bluefox83: I have just downloaded and install flashplugin-nonfree_7.0.68~ubuntu2_i386, but I removed the old one first, installed no problem
[05:39] <TheGateKeeper> bluefox83: when I say old on, I mean their fucked-up update
[05:40] <iturk> hi there i have connect my laptop to a monitor i would like to see something on it !! how can i do it ??
[05:40] <sooki> is there a program for the nvidia driver that works like sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to change the resolution? changing xorg.conf doesn't do the job anymore
[05:40] <TheGateKeeper> iturk: turn the monitor on??
[05:41] <bluefox83> TheGateKeeper, still fails
[05:41] <Mr0bvious> !gstreamer
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <bluefox83> this sucks, even installing manually doesn't work
[05:41] <rod> hi guys
[05:41] <iturk> TheGateKeeper: its on no image
[05:42] <rod> Im doing a couple Ubuntu Edgy installations with the Livecd.. Now all computers have the same hardware setup. 2 Harddrives. One HDB and one SDA
[05:42] <rod> CFDISK recongnises both disks, so does the liveinstaller
[05:42] <TheGateKeeper> bluefox83: you are installing using: sudo dpkg -i <.deb name>  ???
[05:42] <Mr0bvious> How do I set up gstreamer?
[05:42] <bluefox83> TheGateKeeper, yep
[05:42] <rod> But when I want to partition them with help of gparted (which automaticly is started within the livecd installer) then gparted only sees the SDA drive while ubuntu has to be on the HDB drive
[05:43] <rod> How is this possible to fix?
[05:43] <TheGateKeeper> bluefox83: doesn't install or doesn't work on the url you are using?
[05:43] <bluefox83> TheGateKeeper, wont install
[05:43] <Mr0bvious> I want to set up songbird but it requires gstreamer.
[05:44] <bluefox83> TheGateKeeper, it literally says "the Installation Failed" without any error codes
[05:44] <rod> Is the ncruses installer on the edgy livecd?
[05:44] <sooki> and if i go into the preferences -> screen resolution it lists 75 as the only availiable refreshrate, i need it at 60, and had it working untill the nvidia drivers were installed
[05:44] <xopher> gah, need to read a 20 page article for a marketing homework.. How do I get text-to-speech in ubuntu?
[05:44] <nathansnook> how can i debug cups
[05:44] <bluefox83> rod, you can install it with apt, even on the cd
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> xopher,  that 'festival' program can do it - i recall.
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> xopher,  there may be some more specific tools out for blind ussers as well
[05:45] <rod> cool, you know the name of the package bluefox83?
[05:45] <xopher> allright, Ill check it out. Any chance I can get celebrity voices too? ;P
[05:45] <bluefox83> rod, no..but i'm sure the synaptic tool on the cd does..
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> xopher,  dont make me come over there and slap you. :P
[05:46] <xopher> hehe
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> xopher,  sure! ya get 1 - sounds just like Stephen Hawkings!
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:46] <xopher> *trying it right now*
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> Festival will require some reading to use :)
[05:47] <TheGateKeeper> bluefox83: hmm not sure what's going wrong there, may be you have broken pacakages elsewhere idk
[05:47] <bluefox83> maybe >.>
[05:48] <bluefox83> TheGateKeeper, nope..no broken packages..
[05:48] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> can anyone please tell me how to mount partitions?
[05:48] <Sh4d0x> hi all
[05:48] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i m using edubuntu. would like to automatically mount windows on startup
[05:48] <Sh4d0x> yet it's my turn to ask a question in stead of helping :D
[05:48] <TheGateKeeper> !fstab
[05:48] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[05:48] <TheGateKeeper> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: ^^^^^
[05:49] <zwnj> doesn't w32codecs exist in pool anymore
[05:49] <zwnj> ?
[05:49] <TheGateKeeper> zwnj: hang on...
[05:49] <Mortice> !info w32codecs
[05:49] <Sh4d0x> how do you save your own 3ddesk settings? with every boot it load's the default settings :(
[05:49] <ubotu> w32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In component extras, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (dapper-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB (Only available for i386)
[05:49] <TheGateKeeper> zwnj:
[05:49] <TheGateKeeper> wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[05:49] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ubotu: thanks
[05:49] <ubotu> Thanks for the help!
[05:49] <TheGateKeeper> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[05:50] <TheGateKeeper> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: ubotu is a bot :-)
[05:50] <Sh4d0x> lol
[05:50] <zwnj> TheGateKeeper: thanks, but why it's not on archive.ubuntu.com anymore?
[05:50] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> gatekeeper: what is that supposed to mean?
[05:50] <Sh4d0x> omg :D
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> !bot
[05:51] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[05:51] <Sh4d0x> anyhow someone an answer to my question? oo.O
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> Sh4d0x,  check the 3ddesktop homepage. they got a faq. I am guessing theres some .configuration type file.
[05:51] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> lol. i m a newbie to everything. linux. irc. hell. i suck
[05:51] <TheGateKeeper> zwnj: probable non-free, proprietry or something like that
[05:52] <Sh4d0x> Dr_Willis: I did the --help part, ... couldn't find a save setting part, i'll go check the site
[05:52] <TheGateKeeper> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home2
[05:53] <Mr0bvious> !mp3
[05:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:53] <crunch> hi, is there any way i can run windows apps in ubuntu?
[05:53] <Sh4d0x> Dr_Willis: no info on the site :)
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> Sh4d0x,  man page for 3ddesk shows --> /etc/3ddesktop/3ddesktop.conf
[05:53] <Mortice> !wine
[05:53] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> and i imagine its ON the site if ya looked :P
[05:54] <Sh4d0x> oo.O?
[05:54] <Sh4d0x> on th faq part?
[05:54] <crunch> Mortice: cheers :D
[05:54] <Mortice> crunch: if wine won't do it, you'll need to look at virtualization
[05:55] <Kendjar> hi everybody
[05:56] <Kendjar> can someone please tell me where is the "command line" in ubuntu ?
[05:56] <saxia15sev> ola
[05:56] <Kendjar> ola saxia
[05:56] <Mortice> Kendjar: Applications - Accessories - Terminal
[05:56] <Kendjar> thx
[05:57] <saxia15sev> ay x ay algien
[05:57] <saxia15sev> de seviya
[05:57] <OXIj> hello. is any application exist wich could help me to delete unnesesary packeges (any other packeges haven't dependence on unnesesery)?
[05:57] <therp> in dapper, is there a way to upgrade alsa (alsa-lib/in-kernel drivers) manually to some less-buggy version? ekiga and skype both have horrible microphone sampling issues driving me insane. alsa-drivers refuse to install from source because config_snd=y in kernel config. any suggestions?
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> Sh4d0x, the man pages for the programs just mention  --> /etc/3ddesktop/3ddesktop.conf   as a global config.   could be it dosent allow user specific settings.  or wants the user to run the 3ddeskd -whateveroptionshewants
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[06:01] <RichiH> any more bots i missed?
[06:01] <RichiH> please message me if yes
[06:03] <Sync_> wtf was that?!
[06:03] <RichiH> Sync_: spamflood
[06:03] <Mortice> swift work, RichiH.
[06:03] <Sync_> k i see
[06:03] <nalioth> automation is nice
[06:04] <RichiH> Mortice: and Rez
[06:04] <Mortice> oh yes, right you are
[06:05] <RichiH> Mortice: matter of fact, he hit more bots than me
[06:05] <zirpu> sheesh.
[06:05] <Mortice> all the joins and quits in the window made it hard to follow. :)
[06:05] <Neo8750> Mortice: turn them off =)
[06:05] <Mortice> Neo8750: yea, i used to split them out to my status window, but then quits and joins from every channel went there
[06:06] <Mortice> Neo8750: and I haven't got round to scripting around that yet
[06:07] <MystaMax> hello, isn't it possible to browse to the previous directory you were in from the CLI? don't you use cd and then some option?
[06:07] <Neo8750> aka vi ../file ?
[06:07] <Neo8750> that would look in directory below current
[06:07] <Neo8750> or above i mean
[06:08] <Mortice> Neo8750: doesn't help if you've used cd /etc/init.d/ from /home/
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> theres the pushcd and popcd commands also
[06:10] <bur[n] er> anyone having an issue with flashplugin-nonfree?
[06:10] <scristian> hi, can i change enconding to subtitles in totem with gstreamer backend ?
[06:13] <Asc> Sometimes - not always - when booting, I get the error 'ide0: I/O resource 0x3F6-0x3F6 not free" " hda: ERROR, PORTS ALREADY IN USE" at which point it doesn't mount the root filesystem.  Anybody know what might cause this?  I'm using 6.06 and kernel 2.6.18 (haven't seen it happen under the stock kernel).
[06:14] <BeepAU> does anyone have an experience with ePSXe? BTW I own a PSX and am trying to play a genuine game.
[06:16] <[BTF] Chm0d> anyone available for a question?
[06:17] <trappist> [BTF] Chm0d: the way it works is, you just ask a question.  not everyone who's available is going to know the answer, and we don't know until you ask.
[06:17] <[BTF] Chm0d> i just dont want to interupt thats all just my politeness :)
[06:18] <trappist> [BTF] Chm0d: on irc, you just jump right in :)  everybody can hear everybody else just fine over the chatter
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> BeepAU,   not tried it under ubuntu yet. :P normally you got to track down a ps1 rom image for the thing to work.
[06:18] <Mortice> [BTF] Chm0d: this channel generally has about 7 conversations going at once. don't worry about interrupting :)
[06:18] <[BTF] Chm0d> anywho i am trying to install the nvidia drivers and what its telling me to do is sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8762-pkg1.run --kernel-source-path=/usr/src/kernel-headers-`uname -r` but it doesn't know the path of the kernel src
[06:18] <BeepAU> Dr_Willis -- i followed a guide on the ubuntu forums. i have a bios, if that's what you mean.
[06:18] <trappist> [BTF] Chm0d: to do that, you have to install your kernel headers.  but, don't do that.  just sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> BeepAU,  so what is not working right? :P
[06:19] <[BTF] Chm0d> and after I do that?
[06:19] <[BTF] Chm0d> do i need to run the installer?
[06:19] <[BTF] Chm0d> for nvidia
[06:19] <BeepAU> Dr_Willis -- Can I give you a pastebin?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> sure why not. :P
[06:19] <silent_scream> i just configured lirc! how can i control applications such as gnomeradio and tvtime with my remote now??
[06:19] <trappist> [BTF] Chm0d: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg - select 'nvidia' (not nv) for your driver, and deselect 'dri' from the modules list
[06:20] <trappist> [BTF] Chm0d: then restart X by hitting ctrl-alt-backspace
[06:20] <[BTF] Chm0d> ok will give that a try can i just do this in a terminal or do i have to ctrl alt f1 out?
[06:20] <trappist> [BTF] Chm0d: you can do it from wherever you are
[06:21] <[BTF] Chm0d> ty will give it a go
[06:21] <BeepAU> Dr_Willis -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24396
[06:23] <BeepAU> Dr_Willis -- I know it says about libindustrial.so, but i can't find that file.
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> BeepAU,  those seem to be theme files on my system.  /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libindustrial.so   /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines/libindustrial.so
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> BeepAU,  looke like its having some 3d support issues
[06:25] <Skarr> Does anyone know if D-Link has drivers for linux?
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> Skarr,  dlinkl makes a lot of things. :P
[06:26] <Skarr> Cause I have a WUA 1340 and it doesnt have any linux drivers
[06:26] <BeepAU> Skarr -- Is there a reason you can't use ethernet?
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> Skarr,  are you saying you just asked a question, then answered it youself? :P
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> or are you saying you cant find  WUA 1340 drivers?
[06:27] <Skarr> yeah
[06:27] <BeepAU> Skarr -- I have a D-Link DSL-302G and had to use the ethernet.
[06:27] <Ekumba> hi there
[06:27] <Skarr> Ok
[06:27] <Skarr> Well
[06:27] <maguilar> OLAAAAAAAAA
[06:27] <robert_|sleep> hm
[06:27] <robert_|sleep> is there a way I can upgrade to evo 2.8?
[06:27] <Skarr> WUA 1340 is a wireless network adapter. It needs drivers to work, and the only have drivers for windows.
[06:27] <Ekumba> does anyone know,how i can get to know my win xp password.i have change it a minute ago,and know it doesn't work.the system says its wrong
[06:27] <czer323> lol, so, i just registered a nick with the nickserv.  I guess that makes me a frequent customer.
[06:28] <BeepAU> Skarr -- Oh, I'm sorry.
[06:28] <eagle__> hi
[06:28] <eagle__> i was wondering how i insall ms core fonts
[06:28] <eagle__> i can't find the guide online
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> Skarr,  the howto i just googled - imples you just need the right .inf file from the driver package
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> Skarr, http://www.suseforums.net/index.php?showtopic=22109  (yes its for suse) but its a start
[06:29] <Skarr> thank you
[06:30] <BeepAU> Dr_Willis -- So, what should I do to fix my problem?
[06:30] <Skarr> Some background, I just installed linux last night and loved it... Then I flipped out when they didn't have my driver XD
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> aparently they are using the ndiswrapper stuff.. but wireless is changing all the time.. and getting better.. that may be the old way of doing it.
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> BeepAU,  what video card ya got? have you isntalled the 3d drivers for it yet?
[06:31] <Ekumba> does anyone know,how i can get to know my win xp password.i have change it a minute ago,and know it doesn't work.the system says its wrong
[06:31] <BeepAU> Dr_Willis -- Whats the command to check the video card?
[06:31] <[BTF] Chm0d> trappist: thank you for your help.  I have tried so many different ways of doing this and yours by far was the most simplest way.  Don't understand why some make it so difficult :)
[06:31] <BeepAU> Dr_Willis -- I don't believe i've installed any drivers for it.
[06:31] <trappist> [BTF] Chm0d: :)
[06:31] <erUSUL> Ekumba: you should ask in a winxp channel...
[06:31] <lostboyz> hi how do i install ms core fonts?
[06:31] <unfknblvbl> arg i can't install icons, when i try to drag the icons into the /icons folder it says persmission denied but when i try to do it with cudo cp etc, it says omitting folder
[06:31] <[BTF] Chm0d> now i if i can get my wintv pvr 150 to work :)
[06:31] <lostboyz> where is a repository howto?
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> BeepAU,  thats your problem then.. You dont know what video card ya got?  try the 'lspci' command
[06:32] <erUSUL> !info mscorefonts
[06:32] <ubotu> Package mscorefonts does not exist in any distro I know
[06:32] <unfknblvbl> !fonts
[06:32] <erUSUL> !info mscorefont
[06:32] <trappist> !repos > lostboyz
[06:32] <ubotu> Package mscorefont does not exist in any distro I know
[06:32] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[06:32] <unfknblvbl> !icons
[06:32] <scrp> unf.... I REALLY want my consoles back.......does ANYONE know how to get them back!?
[06:32] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[06:32] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[06:32] <trappist> erUSUL: it's msttcorefonts
[06:32] <scrp> where are all the Ubuntu experts!
[06:32] <lostboyz> the fonts tag did not work
[06:32] <erUSUL> trappist: thanks ;) i have just discovered
[06:32] <BeepAU> Dr_Willis -- 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 945G Integrated Graphi cs Controller (rev 02) - is that it?
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> unfknblvbl,  you are trying to access things that are only writeable by the root user.. use the shell, and the sudo command is the better way.
[06:33] <robert_|sleep> is there any way I can upgrade to evo 2.8?
[06:33] <erUSUL> lostboyz: install msttcorefonts
[06:33] <Ekumba> ok,thx
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> BeepAU,  looks that way..  Ive never used that card.. not sure how good it is for 3d. it may not be able to hand the psx emulation
[06:33] <lostboyz> yes but i can't find it in my synaptic package manager erUSUL
[06:33] <MtJB> according to red hat, gcc 4.0.1-4ubuntu9 has a number of serious bugs.  is that still the current version of gcc?
[06:33] <unfknblvbl> Dr_Willis: i used sudo cp folder source_folder but it said omitting folder
[06:33] <erUSUL> unfknblvbl: cp -r for folders
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> unfknblvbl,  use the proper commands/options for cp :P or cheat and use 'mc'
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> !shell
[06:34] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:34] <unfknblvbl> oh
[06:34] <unfknblvbl> my bad
[06:34] <unfknblvbl> ty
[06:34] <scrp> Does anyone know how i un-blank my consoles?! Or is this just some Ubuntu problem that nobody knows how to fix....
[06:34] <[JB] > how to change the owner of a folder and it's subfolders in one time writing at terminal?
[06:34] <MtJB> -R
[06:34] <[JB] > k
[06:35] <scrp> [JB] : be careful with that -R
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> Bash 101 day!  :P
[06:35] <mdasilva_> scrp    reset
[06:35] <[JB] > why's that?
[06:35] <erUSUL> [JB] : us chown -R
[06:35] <[BTF] Chm0d> anyone get a tv tuner card to work?  specifically wintv pvr 150?
[06:35] <scrp> mdasilva_: my console is BLANK... when i switch from X to console 1-6
[06:35] <Gino> Hey guys, I just burned a copy of the Ubuntu install disc
[06:35] <trappist> [BTF] Chm0d: yes, but it's a bit of a pain
[06:35] <Gino> but now im in a dlimena
[06:35] <[BTF] Chm0d> :(
[06:35] <mdasilva_> JB i would recommend using find -exec
[06:35] <scrp> mdasilva_: but i can still login, and see myself with w in terminal... but the screen is totally blank
[06:35] <Gino> how can i wipe out my hard drive completely so i have a fresh start
[06:35] <lukus001> How do I mount my NTFS hard drive in linux?  I followed the guide but when i first did it I messed up and used the wrong /dev/drive (the one written in the manual) and now I cant seem to mount /dev/hdc cuase's its already mounted or busy and i can seem to umount or anything?
[06:35] <mdasilva_> a little more control
[06:35] <[BTF] Chm0d> any suggestions on tutorials?
[06:35] <Mortice> [BTF] Chm0d: the wiki at http://mythtv.org is a good place to start on TV cards
[06:35] <scrp> Gino: just setup Ubuntu again
[06:36] <BeepAU> Dr_Willis -- how could i check?
[06:36] <erUSUL> scrp: which video card/drivers are you using?
[06:36] <mdasilva_> scrp: what do you mean blank?
[06:36] <[BTF] Chm0d> ty Mortice
[06:36] <scrp> lukus001: use umount /folder/ to unmount
[06:36] <mdasilva_> how do you know you logged in if its blank
[06:36] <trappist> [BTF] Chm0d: you need the ivtv drivers and the firmware files for the card.  and like Mortice said, mythtv.org has all the good tutorials on it.
[06:36] <scrp> erUSUL: nvidia
[06:36] <scrp> mdasilva_: i mean, its just black, i dont even see the login prompt
[06:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Gino: it will do it for you
[06:36] <[BTF] Chm0d> thx trappist
[06:36] <erUSUL> scrp: with the nvidia drivers? or nv
[06:36] <scrp> mdasilva_: it wasnt always like this
[06:36] <sofus> can any one tell my why i get this site http://www1.umn.edu/twincities/index.php in firefox when i use gdesklets starterbar??
[06:36] <lukus001> scrp, I did.. and it says it not mounted
[06:36] <scrp> erUSUL: i changed it from nv to nvidia some time ago
[06:37] <fokuslee> hey how do i run a file system check in ubuntu?
[06:37] <scrp> erUSUL: not sure if that was the problem
[06:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Gino: Just tell the install program to use all of the disk you want to use
[06:37] <scrp> lukus001: type "mount" to see what is mounted
[06:38] <erUSUL> scrp: some x drivers do not play well with framebuffer drivers. do you have vga=something in grub's menu.lst entries ??
[06:38] <lukus001> scrp, "mount" shows that it is not mounted too
[06:38] <scrp> lukus001: strange, hold on, im going to check on my own problem aswell :)
[06:38] <lostboyz> oh  i see i had to add the multiverse repositories
[06:38] <lostboyz> thanks for the help
[06:38] <erUSUL> fokuslee: man fsck
[06:39] <lukas_> wtf ubuntu
[06:39] <lukas_> :D
[06:39] <lukus001> scrp, i think i got it working.. thanks
[06:40] <brosnan> sofus: usually it is because something gets added to the command that starts firefox. Firefox attempst to load it as a url, since it is not a url it does a google i'm feeling lucky search, and the above page is the first result for something
[06:40] <lostboyz> has anyone gotten yahoo messenger with voice to work on ubuntu?
[06:40] <rixxon> i want to try fluxbox, but how to change back to gnome afterwards?
[06:40] <trappist> rixxon: your display manager (gdm) gives you the option to choose your window manager when you log in
[06:40] <rixxon> trappist: aha, thanks
[06:40] <sofus> hmm
[06:41] <lukus001> scrp, its working now thanks :)
[06:41] <Jack_Sparrow> rixxon: I have three available at the options menu where you log in.. It makes it easy
[06:41] <lostboyz> after i install the msttfonts how do i adde them to the system? i don't see them here
[06:41] <rixxon> Jack_Sparrow: yea, cool :)
[06:41] <BeepAU> Dr_Willis -- ?
[06:41] <lostboyz> in firefox
[06:41] <scrp> erUSUL: blah dont see it, but it says something about default options
[06:42] <rem__> anyone knows how to connect to a "global address list" on a exchange server from evolution .. ? (all the rest works just not the addresses..)
[06:42] <trappist> lostboyz: did you apt-get install msttcorefonts?
[06:42] <lostboyz> oh i see i had to restart firefox
[06:42] <lostboyz> thanks trappist
[06:43] <lostboyz> yes thank you
[06:43] <Jack_Sparrow> lostboyz: How far did you get with yahoo messenger for linux
[06:43] <zaggynl> gah, hamachi isn't in the reps yet :/
[06:43] <lostboyz> oh i was wondering if anyone had been able to port it
[06:44] <lostboyz> without having to run it in vmware
[06:44] <scrp> erUSUL: http://pastebin.ca/179876
[06:44] <lostboyz> but there is a good program called gyachi but i don't feel like taking the time to try to install it
[06:44] <lostboyz> would anyone know why my executable binary file is not able to run?
[06:44] <lostboyz> it is a program called Ten Thumbs typing tutor
[06:44] <Jack_Sparrow> lostboyz: They have a linux/debian version available... but too many dependencies for me to track down
[06:44] <Xnix> if i recompile ubuntu kernel myself what needs be done so i can still use fglrx driver?
[06:44] <lostboyz> in need to practice up on my dvorak speed
[06:44] <Xnix> anything special
[06:44] <lostboyz> yeah
[06:45] <Xnix> lostboyz im on dvorak :)
[06:45] <Xnix> i lovve it
[06:45] <lostboyz> Xnix yeah right on man fight the power!
[06:45] <erUSUL> scrp: no i do not see the option... :( do not know what may it be
[06:45] <lostboyz> now just learn how to speedread
[06:45] <lostboyz> hehe
[06:46] <lostboyz> Breakthrough Rapid Reading by Peter Kump is a good start
[06:46] <lostboyz> and so is Evelyn Wood Reading Dynamics :)
[06:46] <lostboyz> i can't believe how fast xubuntu is
[06:46] <lostboyz> it is like i am skating
[06:47] <Paladine> !restricted
[06:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:47] <fokuslee> erUSUL yeah i was gonna do that but it says e2fsck can cause serious filesystem damage
[06:47] <fokuslee> !fsck
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:49] <luX`> ,.,
[06:49] <erUSUL> fokuslee: you have to do it with the filsystem unmounted
[06:51] <fokuslee> erUSUL oh how do i do that?
[06:51] <johnny> hi does anybody know where the ubuntu kernel patches are?
[06:51] <Sh4d0x> can someone tell me what is wrong with this config? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24398
[06:52] <erUSUL> fokuslee: from a livecd...
[06:52] <fm> hi
[06:52] <g0r33k> hey guys can anyone help me mount a cd.. i receive an error and i dont know what to do
[06:52] <fokuslee> ok thx
[06:52] <fokuslee> erusul thx
[06:52] <johnny> please prefix your reply with my name
[06:53] <fm> I was wondering... is there a way to send my laptop display to my other comp's display through wifi? Like make the X server on the other computer listen to this one?
[06:54] <fm> whats the error g0r33k?
[06:54] <johnny> fm,  you could just use vino
[06:54] <g0r33k> its a few lines am i allowed to paste it here?
[06:54] <johnny> the remote desktop stuff in administration
[06:54] <erUSUL> fokuslee: 'sudo shutdown -r -F now' should force fsck at startup
[06:54] <johnny> it's a vnc server
[06:54] <johnny> but you could do it with just X.. but firefox doesn't run very nice under it
[06:54] <johnny> youo'd have to setup nx
[06:54] <Sh4d0x> no 3ddesktop users who can help me O.o??
[06:54] <johnny> there are guides on how to do it with gentoo
[06:55] <johnny> err
[06:55] <johnny> rather ubuntu
[06:55] <lukas_> fm: xhost forwarding is ok
[06:55] <lukas_> xhost +
[06:55] <lukas_> :D
[06:55] <fm> ok thx
[06:55] <fm> and... could I split the display that way?
[06:55] <fm> or do I dream a bit too much ?
[06:55] <johnny> split?
[06:55] <trappist> fm: split it?
[06:55] <fm> yes
[06:56] <johnny> you have to explain more
[06:56] <fm> extand my desktop
[06:56] <johnny> oh
[06:56] <johnny> in that case you wan't xinerama (or twinview with nvidia)
[06:56] <trappist> fm: you could use x2vnc to make the remote display like a second monitor
[06:56] <johnny> i don't know how to configure it
[06:56] <Sh4d0x> fm: nvidia?
[06:56] <rixxon> how do i set lefthanded mouse in fluxbox
[06:56] <fm> yes nvidia
[06:57] <Sh4d0x> fm: use twinview
[06:57] <johnny> then.. go google twinview ubuntu
[06:57] <fm> I know how to do it with cables but I'd like to do it over wifi :)
[06:57] <Sh4d0x> !nvidia
[06:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:57] <johnny> oh
[06:57] <johnny> fm,  i don't think you can do that
[06:57] <AlexNicol> Evening - I have an issue across Kubuntu / Ubuntu and Xubuntu GUI's
[06:57] <trappist> fm: x2vnc
[06:57] <trappist> johnny: it can be done
[06:57] <AlexNicol> so I can only assume its a hardware issue
[06:57] <johnny> hmm.. x2vnc splits it?
[06:57] <AlexNicol> can someone talk me through the possibilities?
[06:57] <johnny> never cared enough
[06:57] <trappist> johnny: apt-cache show x2vnc
[06:57] <johnny> AlexNicol, you'd have to explain your issue
[06:57] <AlexNicol> Ok
[06:58] <johnny> trappist, i'm not really a ubuntu user.. i'm just looking for the kernel patches
[06:58] <AlexNicol> Downloaded and installed Ubuntu Server as I only had the one discx
[06:58] <johnny> cuz this box used to have ubuntu on it
[06:58] <Sh4d0x> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24398 what's wrong with this configuration ? :(
[06:58] <johnny> and it's acpi worked nice
[06:58] <johnny> but on gentoo it doen't
[06:58] <AlexNicol> this installed OK and on a fresh install I can see the terminal without issue
[06:58] <johnny> so i'm trying to find the kernel patches
[06:58] <AlexNicol> as soon as I apt-get {insesrt option}-desktop, it installs OK, I reboot and then I see the splash screen
[06:58] <trappist> johnny: by telling people their problems can't be solved?
[06:59] <fm> x2vnc looks great!
[06:59] <AlexNicol> once this has loaded, I see a single white "-" in the top left of the screen and nothing else
[06:59] <fm> thanks!
[06:59] <Sh4d0x> fm: yw :d
[06:59] <johnny> i said think
[06:59] <johnny> i didn't say definitely
[07:00] <johnny> so chill holmes
[07:00] <BeBraw> can someone recommend podcast browser for ubuntu?
[07:00] <NeilyBoy> how come i got kicked?
[07:00] <lostboyz> anyone get skype working on amd64/
[07:00] <KDEfanboy> anyone know how to fix the problem where all fonts loaded by gtk-1.2 appear invisible or as dots?
[07:00] <Sh4d0x> BeBraw: amarok? dunno i guess i does the trick
[07:01] <AlexNicol> Downloaded and installed Ubuntu Server as I only had the one disc.  this installed OK and on a fresh install I can see the terminal without issue.  as soon as I apt-get {insesrt option}-desktop, it installs OK, I reboot and then I see the splash screen.  once this has loaded, I see a single white "-" in the top left of the screen and nothing else.  I assume its graphics related because the system continues to load things.
[07:02] <ThomAnnatar> hello there guys
[07:03] <ubunoob> just wondering what the default admin/root username/password is for ubuntu
[07:03] <jbroome> !root
[07:03] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:03] <sofus> is there any command that can reload the sound?
[07:03] <ThomAnnatar> does someone know whats the best partition software?
[07:03] <BeBraw> Sh4d0x: i found juice, http://juicereceiver.sourceforge.net
[07:03] <AlexNicol> ubunoob - username is ROOT - password needs to be set
[07:03] <lukas_> ubunoob: sudo -s
[07:03] <johnny>  sofus  /etc/init.d/alsasound restart  .. try that
[07:03] <trappist> NeilyBoy`: I don't see that you got kicked
[07:03] <AlexNicol> and can be done so by typing sudo passwd
[07:03] <AlexNicol> it will ask you to confirm YOUR password
[07:03] <BeepAU> Can anyone help me with my ePSXe problem?
[07:04] <AlexNicol> then set a root one
[07:04] <johnny> ThomAnnatar,  there is gparted and qtparted  both are interfaces to parted
[07:04] <johnny> i used the gparted livecd personally
[07:04] <ThomAnnatar> ok :) ill try
[07:04] <johnny> the sysreccd might be more your cup of tea
[07:04] <johnny> but gparted gained support for moving the beginnings of partitions in the most recently version
[07:04] <johnny> which i needed :)
[07:05] <johnny> so i could minimize  windows xp to put ubuntu on gf's laptop
[07:05] <NeilyBoy`> trappist: weird
[07:05] <johnny> well minimize more after the fact of the ubuntu install that is
[07:06] <ThomAnnatar> can i resize partitions with gparted?
[07:06] <johnny> yes
[07:06] <johnny> but not while they are mounted
[07:06] <Ramunas> hello
[07:06] <johnny> just burn the cd and reboot with it in there
[07:06] <ThomAnnatar> hmmzz
[07:06] <ThomAnnatar> ive got a live cd here ill know what to do
[07:06] <ThomAnnatar> thank you verry much
[07:07] <ubunoob> is there any way to login to the gui as root so I can move files around to wherever I want without having to screw with permissions everywhere?
[07:07] <tieTYT> yesterday I tried to run the live cd but once it actually tried to display the desktop, my screen was all messed up.  Changing the resolution made it look messed up in different ways
[07:07] <Ramunas> I have Amd 64 athlon 3200+, running 32 bit ubuntu, and this cpu scales its frequency depending on the load, and the screen flickers when its downscaling, how can I prevent that?
[07:07] <johnny> ThomAnnatar, the ubuntu livecd doesn't have the newest version of gparted
[07:07] <tieTYT> ONCE i found the magic resolution that made it look right when I retried it looked messed up again on that resolution though.  Maybe i didn't pick the same one I did last time
[07:07] <johnny> you need a newer one if you want to chane the beginning of a partition
[07:07] <tieTYT> is it common to only be able to use ubuntu on one resolution?  I've tried at least 3 types
[07:08] <johnny> so you hve to use the gparted livecd
[07:08] <johnny> maybe the newer edgy builds do .. i don't know
[07:08] <bluefox83> hey..is there an xchat plugin that can keep track of my hourly key depression count?
[07:08] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> hi guys. i have edubuntu. i used the mount command to mount the windows partition
[07:08] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> but whenever i try to access it, it says permission denied. what does it mean?
[07:08] <ThomAnnatar> Johnny, i know but i can use apt on live cd
[07:09] <ThomAnnatar> it will be good i need to reinstall annyways
[07:09] <[GuS] > PunjabiFLOYDIAN, you need to use sudo
[07:09] <[GuS] > sudo command
[07:09] <johnny> well .. ThomAnnatar  make suer to get the version on the gparted webpage
[07:09] <ThomAnnatar> will do
[07:09] <johnny> if you are totally reinstalling .. it wont' matter
[07:09] <johnny> ie: the whole disk
[07:10] <erUSUL> !ntfs > PunjabiFLOYDIAN
[07:10] <lostboyz> hi i have libxu.so.6 installed on other partition but can't link it when i start skype what can i do
[07:10] <lostboyz> eagle@eagle-desktop:~/skype-1.2.0.18$ linux32 ./skype
[07:10] <lostboyz> ./skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXmu.so.6: cannot open shared o bject file: No such file or directory
[07:11] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i m already logged in as root
[07:11] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i mean
[07:11] <lostboyz> how do i link it and make it run
[07:11] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> first i login as root using sudo -H -s
[07:11] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> then i mount the thing
[07:11] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> but whenever i try to access it
[07:11] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> it says permission denied
[07:11] <[GuS] > dont log as root...
[07:11] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> m a linux newbie. this is frustrating
[07:11] <[GuS] > just use sudo with the command....
[07:11] <t0taln00b> hey all
[07:12] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok
[07:12] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> lemme try
[07:12] <[GuS] > PunjabiFLOYDIAN, is you are newbie, PLEASE read docs, wiki.. and so on...
[07:12] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> hey thanks ubotu
[07:12] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> oh sure
[07:12] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> thanks
[07:12] <erUSUL> !ntfs
[07:12] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:12] <azerty> hello, how can i install gtk2 engines ? (like vrunner pixmaps ect ..)
[07:12] <erUSUL> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: go to that page and read on. there is  a script that prepares your fstab for easy windosw fs access
[07:13] <trappist> azerty: sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf for example
[07:13] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> thanks. what command is used to unmount the parition?
[07:13] <azerty> trappist, but does it need some extra repository N
[07:14] <thegh0st> anyone else in here got nvidia drivers working?
[07:14] <erUSUL> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: sudo umount /mount/point
[07:14] <trappist> azerty: universe
[07:14] <thegh0st> s/nvidia/ati
[07:14] <Ych> ok, ive lived about 2 months without, but now im sick of it. i want to be able to watch wmv streaming videos in my browser.... who can help me? and dont give me the !restricted thing, i've installed the codec, i can watch wmvs locally with totem, but not on myspace for example
[07:14] <erUSUL> thegh0st: me (i use a custom build kernel and nvidia.com drivers)
[07:14] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> thanks
[07:14] <k3nny> hi all
[07:14] <thegh0st> erUSUL, I meant ati drivers lol
[07:15] <azerty> trappist, i got it but in cgwd themer, some of them are missing (like vrunner trueglass)
[07:15] <k3nny> did anybody of you compile kernel v2.6.18 from kernel.org ??
[07:15] <erUSUL> Ych: install mplayer plugin for mozilla firefox
[07:15] <k3nny> i have a problem with its headers
[07:15] <erUSUL> k3nny: me
[07:15] <Ych> i have the mplayer plugin
[07:15] <k3nny> oh, good
[07:15] <t0taln00b> i compiled
[07:15] <thegh0st> I got the ati drivers in xorg
[07:15] <Ych> erUSUL, but mplayer doesnt play wmvs, only totem does
[07:15] <ubunoob> is there any way to use the filesystem as root from within the gui?
[07:15] <k3nny> @erUSUL: which graphical card do you have?
[07:15] <thegh0st> and when I run glxgeears is get: "Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual"
[07:16] <Ych> erUSUL, or rather, mplayer plays sound but no image
[07:16] <erUSUL> k3nny: a 7300gt
[07:16] <k3nny> ok...
[07:16] <erUSUL> Ych: do you have w32codecs?
[07:16] <trappist> azerty: some are in main
[07:16] <adioe3> Is there a way to make a backup od apt's downloaded .deb files?
[07:16] <Ych> yes
[07:16] <k3nny> thats my problem:
[07:16] <k3nny> k3nny@workstation-ubuntu:/usr/src$ sudo module-assistant prepare
[07:16] <k3nny> Getting source for kernel version: 2.6.18
[07:16] <k3nny> apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.18
[07:16] <k3nny> Reading package lists... Done
[07:16] <k3nny> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:16] <k3nny> E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.18
[07:16] <adioe3> I mean where does Ubuntu keep these packages?
[07:16] <k3nny> it doesnt find any kernel headers installed
[07:17] <azerty> trappist, i use synaptic and i dont find them, can you find them using synaptic or apt-cache search on your box ?
[07:17] <k3nny> erUSUL: can you help me?
[07:17] <Ych> erUSUL, i installed them, but they only made wm-media work on totem, and not on vlc or mplayer
[07:17] <ubunoob> is there any way to get around the (error while copying to "/" you do not have permissions to write to this folder) error?
[07:17] <gnomefreak> k3nny: 1st use pastebin to paste. 2nd its not in the repos for any ubuntu version we _dont_ support it
[07:17] <Homer> opengl hardware acceleration isn't work
[07:17] <Skarr> How do I know if I am using ubuntu breezy or ubuntu dapper?
[07:17] <gnomefreak> k3nny: if someone knows the answer they might help but dont expect anyone to
[07:17] <trappist> azerty: yes
[07:18] <trappist> azerty: for p in `apt-cache search gtk2 engine|awk '{print $1}'|grep ^gtk2`;do echo -n "$p: ";apt-cache policy $p|grep 500|awk '{print $3}';done
[07:18] <k3nny> i know that...but i saw erUSUL having it..so i asked him
[07:18] <erUSUL> k3nny: i just did 'sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8774-pkg1.run' and all went smoothly
[07:18] <Skarr> How do I know if I am using ubuntu breezy or ubuntu dapper?
[07:18] <erUSUL> Ych: i installed them from seveas repo and all player make good use of them
[07:19] <Ych> erUSUL, ok, ill install them again
[07:19] <gnomefreak> k3nny: since the kernel you are building is not in the repos how do you expect the repos to have header files for it?
[07:19] <Ych> !restricted
[07:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:19] <erUSUL> Ych: i use xine mplayer and sometimes totem
[07:19] <Ych> !w32
[07:19] <gnomefreak> Skarr: lsb_release -a
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <[GuS] > !codecs
[07:19] <erUSUL> !w32codecs
[07:19] <Skarr> What is lsb release?
[07:19] <gnomefreak> Ych: the resticted site has them
[07:19] <ubunoob> I take it there is no way to get around the (error while copying to "/" you do not have permissions to write to this folder) error?
[07:19] <Homer> sooooooo
[07:19] <gnomefreak> Skarr: the command to run to know what version of ubuntu you have
[07:19] <Ych> just making sure
[07:19] <k3nny> i dont expect that...
[07:20] <Homer> how do I get hardware acceleration working in OpenGL
[07:20] <Skarr> oh
[07:20] <Skarr> thanks
[07:20] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guys. i used the script. but i m unable to access the partitions
[07:20] <k3nny> Homer: ati or nvidia?
[07:20] <k3nny> hmmm
[07:20] <Skarr> thanks gnome
[07:21] <gnomefreak> Skarr: yw
[07:21] <gnomefreak> Homer: we need to know what video card you have
[07:21] <k3nny> i suppose ill switch back to 2.6.15 then...thanks all...especially you gnomefreak
[07:21] <opexoc> Could anybody tell me where is located directory, where I can put some startuo scripts to executing after logging prompt?
[07:21] <dlew> Anyone here updated Ff? I'm wondering why Help -> About Mozilla Firefox still shows the version as 1.5.0.4 instead of 1.5.0.7, the new version.
[07:21] <Homer> gnomefreak: ATI Mobile x700
[07:21] <gnomefreak> dlew: they will release it or an updated 1.5.0.5
[07:22] <gnomefreak> !ati > Homer
[07:22] <dlew> gnomefreak: But I've already run the update.
[07:22] <gnomefreak> Homer: your pm from ubotu has the instructionsz
[07:22] <trappist> dlew: that sounds like a bug report needs to be filed (if you're sure the new version is in fact 1.5.0.7)
[07:22] <gnomefreak> dlew: it hasnt been released in ubuntu repos
[07:22] <gnomefreak> trappist: they might be doing what they did with 1.5.0.6
[07:23] <trappist> gnomefreak: wassat, just backport specific fixes?
[07:23] <dlew> gnomefreak: Oh.  So the announcements arrive *before* the reps are updated??
[07:23] <BeepAU> Dr_Willis -- Could you help me with my problem?
[07:23] <Skarr> What is a good place for free linux games?
[07:23] <lukas_> Skarr: dosbox
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> BeepAU,  what now? I know nothing about that intel video card. :P
[07:23] <lukas_> he he
[07:23] <gnomefreak> trappist: they took the changes/patches and packaged them in 1.5.0.5 instead of porting 1.5.0.6
[07:23] <appelza> Hi guys, after doing 'apt-get update', if I try 'apt-get upgrade' it says some packages are being held back...why is that?
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> Skarr,  'linux game tome' google for it. :P
[07:23] <Skarr> ok
[07:23] <trappist> gnomefreak: yeah that's what I said :)
[07:23] <gnomefreak> :)
[07:23] <BeepAU> Dr_Willis -- I just want to get ePSXe working. what should i do?
[07:24] <Ch1p_L> hi. my sound wont work. My integrated sound card gives almost no sound and verry crappy if any, so I just put in a new sound card, and I had sound for about a sec in xmms, but then it all went dead
[07:24] <Ch1p_L> any help?
[07:24] <gnomefreak> people seem to be wanting the version numbers to match and that cant always be done
[07:24] <trappist> gnomefreak: if they've just backported fixes, the version numbers *shouldn't* match
[07:24] <Skarr> Can someone help me get Wine to work? Earlier someone gave me a link to a tutorial to use it for my network adapter, but I don't understand how to install whine
[07:25] <AlexNicol>  trappist - Ati website has linux drivers on it - would these work or are they already included in dapper?
[07:25] <gnomefreak> correct but who knows if the fixes have already been ported to 1.5.0.5
[07:25] <BeBraw> shouldn't firefox 2 come out soon btw?
[07:25] <dlew> gnomefreak: I ran the update from the command-line and saw the number 1.5.0.7.
[07:25] <gnomefreak> BeBraw: its beta atm
[07:25] <gnomefreak> !info firefox
[07:25] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-ubuntu0.6.06 (dapper), package size 7739 kB, installed size 22928 kB
[07:25] <gnomefreak> yep it was ported
[07:25] <BeBraw> what are the biggest improvements compared to 1.5?
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> BeepAU,  if you cant get 3d acelleration going for your video card - you are stuck at leat that seems to be what the errors are saying.
[07:25] <dlew> AlexNicol: I believe they can be got with apt.
[07:25] <gnomefreak> BeBraw: alot more crashing
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> BeepAU,  google for that specific error message.. i may be wrong.. also google for your video card. you may need to tweak the drivers.
[07:26] <gnomefreak> BeBraw: edgy and firefox 2 have some issues
[07:26] <BeepAU> Dr_Willis -- I entered a command to tell me if 3d accelration is working, and it said it was.
[07:26] <mista_> hey
[07:26] <BeBraw> gnomefreak: ow
[07:26] <verix> how do I install Open1x or Open1x-Xsupplicant?
[07:26] <trappist> gnomefreak: yeah they do
[07:26] <Homer> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[07:26] <Homer> OpenGL renderer string: MOBILITY RADEON X700 Generic
[07:26] <Homer> OpenGL version string: 2.0.5814 (8.25.18)
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> BeepAU,  try some other 3d games like tremulous
[07:26] <Ch1p_L> hi. my sound wont work. My integrated sound card gives almost no sound and verry crappy if any, so I just put in a new sound card, and I had sound for about a sec in xmms, but then it all went dead
[07:27] <Homer> file:///home/jonathdoes that mean OpenGL is running?
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> BeepAU,  or it may be some config with the ePsxex program
[07:27] <stefg> !sound
[07:27] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[07:27] <verix> oh hmm
[07:27] <Ych> erUSUL, i reinstalled w32codecs, and get the following error when i try to open a wmv  with mplayer: Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and video format 0x33564D57
[07:27] <verix> !open1x
[07:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about open1x - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <verix> hmm.
[07:28] <Skarr> Can someone help me get Wine to work? Earlier someone gave me a link to a tutorial to use it for my network adapter, but I don't understand how to install whine
[07:28] <stefg> !wine
[07:28] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:28] <Skarr> ok.
[07:28] <Sh4d0x> is there a tool in ubuntu to open a bin/que file? oo.O
[07:28] <codecaine> whats a program to unload rar programs
[07:29] <stefg> !rar
[07:29] <verix> oh, is there anything I can do to grep for a possible package in the apt repositories?
[07:29] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[07:29] <Sync_> unrar
[07:29] <Sh4d0x> thnx
[07:29] <stefg> !FAQ
[07:29] <ubotu> faq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[07:29] <usuario> doraemon
[07:29] <Sh4d0x> nope can't unrar it
[07:29] <verix> wi doraemon
[07:29] <usuario> doraemon
[07:29] <verix> what the hell why did I type that lol
[07:30] <erUSUL> Ych: can you lend me the url of the video? maybe it is not supported in codecs...
[07:30] <Sh4d0x> any other suggestions?
[07:30] <cbx33> why does cp copy directories starting with . (ie hidden ones)
[07:30] <cbx33> s/does/doesn't
[07:30] <mrbayHU> hello everyone
[07:31] <stefg> cbx33: man cp
[07:31] <cbx33> stefg, is there a way to force it
[07:31] <verix> cbx33: you probably need to set a flag to copy hidden ones
[07:31] <verix> so yeah, read the cp man, I'm sure it's there
[07:32] <mrbayHU> can anyone tell me how can i set the charset of my mysql server?
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> Sh4d0x,  you can convert a bin/cue to a .iso with bchunk (i think)  then mount the thing with the loopback filesystem trick
[07:32] <mrbayHU> i tried starting with --collation_set blabla
[07:32] <tiede> Hello. Anyone knows how I can make the Win key open the Applications menu? There was a keyboard option for it in Hoary, but for the life of me I cannot figure out how to find something equivalent in Dapper...
[07:32] <verix> oh there we go, figured it out heh
[07:33] <verix> it's apt-get install xsupplicant, not open1x or open1x-xsupplicant
[07:33] <verix> well that answers my question. :B
[07:33] <Sh4d0x> Dr_Willis: thnx :D
[07:33] <mrbayHU> in the settings it shows it changed to my charset, latin2, but i still cant insert my language-specific letters
[07:35] <MadRabbit> !info unrar-free
[07:35] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[07:36] <fijam> hello
[07:37] <stefg> !ask
[07:37] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:37] <appelza> is there a guide somewhere on ubuntu server security?
[07:37] <tiede> Hello. Anyone knows how I can make the Win key open the Applications menu? There was a keyboard option for it in Hoary, but for the life of me I cannot figure out how to find something equivalent in Dapper...
[07:38] <SGL> Hello my sweet Ubuntu friends
[07:38] <SGL> I have a question!
[07:38] <SGL> My shell keeps printing this:  genstalleerd
[07:38] <trappist> appelza: I'm writing one for the doc team, but it won't be done until edgy+1
[07:38] <SGL> Where is should say: genstalleerd
[07:38] <SGL> Is there something wrong with my font?
[07:38] <mypapit> brb, rebooting...
[07:39] <appelza> ok
[07:39] <janbanan> Does anyone know where to find the HandleGotD font?
[07:39] <stefg> tiede: it's in the settings-hotkey control applet... the most obvious place i can think of.
[07:40] <SGL> Can anyone help poor old SGL?
[07:40] <tiede> I looked there and didn't find it...
[07:40] <jrib> tiede: Desktop > Show the panel menu
[07:40] <tiede> thank you
[07:41] <jrib> SGL: I see the same word twice
[07:41] <stefg> tiede: i just did it (for curiosity) but only have a german menu here, so i cant tell you exactly how it is in your language
[07:41] <SGL> Uhhh??
[07:41] <stefg> !ask
[07:41] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:41] <SGL> genstalleerd    and      genstalleerd
[07:41] <pianoboy3333> How do I enable antialiasing on my fonts?
[07:42] <mrbayHU> heejj.. please :(
[07:42] <tiede> I quickly breezed there without looking correctly. For some reason I thought it was in the preference->Keyboard, under the options tab...
[07:42] <jrib> SGL: "My shell keeps printing this: A" ... "Where is should say: genstalleerd: B"  On my screen A=B.  Maybe you can take a screenshot?
[07:42] <SGL> Do those two look the same?
[07:42] <mrbayHU> can anyone help me in how to set my mysql charset, or should i go away?:)
[07:42] <Schulze> Hi
[07:42] <SGL> Yeah I will take a screenshot
[07:42] <tiede> I found it. I just got my namings confused. My hoary was in English, My Dapper is in French... Honest mistake.
[07:42] <brandon_> i've got a problem with a xorg memory leak in gnome
[07:42] <jrib> tiede: np, that's what this channel is for
[07:43] <tiede> thanks anyways stefg and jrib
[07:43] <jrib> pianoboy3333: system > preferences > font
[07:43] <pianoboy3333> jrib: then?
[07:43] <brandon_> when i move the location of the panel, my ram usage increases exponentially, nearly reaching the limit, whcih is 1GB. this doesn't affect kde though. right now, i'm using 167 MB
[07:43] <Schulze> Did someone knwo How I can export All my Firefox Stuff/Setups to import it in my Ubuntu Firefox (like MozBackup.. jzst fr Linux)?
[07:44] <mypapitfx> back!
[07:44] <jrib> pianoboy3333: then choose what you want
[07:44] <cbx33> if anyone is interested inthe solution....which wasn't in the man page.... I used /folder/* to copy, it should have been /folder/.
[07:44] <brosnan> Schulze: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Migrating_settings_to_a_new_profile
[07:45] <trappist> Schulze: use google's firefox browser sync
[07:45] <stefg> Schulze: are you talking of migrating a win profile to Linux firefox (i.e. the exact same versions on win and ubuntu)?
[07:45] <jrib> pianoboy3333: if you click "help", it explains what the options mean by the way
[07:45] <SGL> jrib: http://www.few.vu.nl/~sgude/prntscrn.jpg
[07:45] <Schulze> I forgott to say I want to export it from WINDOWS... to LINUX =)
[07:45] <trappist> cbx33: yeah /folder/* will copy the *contents* of a folder (minus hidden files and directories) and /folder/ will copy the whold directory, as-is
[07:45] <trappist> Schulze: google browser sync!
[07:46] <Schulze> ok
[07:46] <pianoboy3333> jrib: I understand them I just don't get why in firefox, my fonts look like this on some webpages: http://piano.juicemedia.tv/junk/screen092206.png
[07:46] <trappist> Schulze: it'll take your bookmarks, history, cookies, saved passwords, etc.
[07:46] <janbanan> Does anyone know where I can find the HandleGotD font?
[07:46] <jrib> SGL: ok, now I see what you mean, but I'm not sure why
[07:46] <SGL> ok
[07:47] <SGL> on accident I enabled dutch as the language to use
[07:47] <SGL> I prefer english
[07:47] <The_Machine> so is there any way possible to use a page that has an activex control i need to download in linux?
[07:47] <SGL> Is there a way to change it?
[07:47] <Renan_s2> The_Machine, no
[07:47] <Renan_s2> but ies4linux allows you to run IE under Wine
[07:47] <jrib> SGL: system > administration > language  maybe?
[07:48] <jrib> pianoboy3333: yeah, what I do is tell my browser what fonts to use.  I noticed that the MS fonts all look like that.  But if I choose Bitstream Vera Sans* it looks fine
[07:48] <stefg> pianoboy3333: your aliasing settings are fine, just choose a better font in firefox for monospace (or try sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts)
[07:49] <Apeiron> heya :) i would like to know if there exists a fully-localized chinese version of ubuntu.. with all those write tools for chinese letters and so on :) i need it for a chinese friend who cant speak english but wants to test ubuntu.. thx for help in advance :)
[07:49] <pianoboy3333> stefg: I already have msttcorefont
[07:49] <pianoboy3333> s
[07:49] <The_Machine> Renan_s2: well that just blows.
[07:49] <ravi> Hi, I can't switch on DMA in Dapper Drake running on AMD Sempron 64bit machine
[07:50] <The_Machine> linux should be able to do anything Win can do and better.  Now i can't use it as my desktop replacement.  <cries in a corner>
[07:50] <ravi> either with 32bit version or 64bit one
[07:50] <stefg> pianoboy3333: it's just that your monospace font isn't well hinted
[07:50] <Renan_s2> !vmware
[07:50] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[07:50] <jbmigel> anyone know what command to send a message to someone else logged into a server?
[07:51] <jrib> jbmigel: write
[07:51] <ravi> jbmigel: you can do "wall"
[07:51] <Apeiron> jbmigel, write or wall :)
[07:51] <jrib> wall for everyone, write for someone :)
[07:51] <jbmigel> sweet, thanks guys
[07:51] <Apeiron> wall -> to all users.. grml, im writing too slow ^^
[07:51] <yop> hola  a todos
[07:51] <stefg> hehe
[07:51] <yop> hola  a todos
[07:51] <stefg> !es
[07:51] <jrib> !es
[07:51] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:51] <SGL> isn't 'mesg' a linux command?
[07:51] <pianoboy3333> SGL: yes
[07:52] <pianoboy3333> stefg: it's not my monospace, it's my serif
[07:52] <yop> alguien de argentina
[07:52] <jrib> SGL: mesg (1)             - control write access to your terminal
[07:52] <SGL> So why not tell that to jbmigel
[07:52] <SGL> Ohw
[07:52] <SGL> Like that
[07:52] <yop> maradona
[07:52] <SGL> yeah dude
[07:52] <SGL> duh
[07:52] <yop> jaa
[07:52] <SGL> I mean :P
[07:52] <SGL> Hahaha
[07:52] <SGL> nvm me :D
[07:52] <Apeiron> SGL, with mesg you can allow or disallow other users to write to your terminal :)
[07:52] <stefg> !enter
[07:52] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[07:52] <SGL> Yeah
[07:52] <yop> helow
[07:52] <jrib> yop: /join #ubuntu-es
[07:53] <manmadha> how to set perticular song to play for perticular time......only???not at system startup .......
[07:53] <jrib> manmadha: the "at" command
[07:53] <Apeiron> manmadha, hmmm.. maybe making a cronjob which starts a player :)
[07:53] <jrib> manmadha: yeah, depends if you want it to repeat, or just do it one time.
[07:53] <Renan_s2> get mpg321 and use crontab?
[07:53] <Apeiron> and im still writing too slow :)
[07:54] <ravi> hi, I am getting this: HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[07:54] <Apeiron> jrib, why? the cronjob could trigger a script which repeats x times
[07:54] <ravi> if I try to on DMA
[07:54] <manmadha> jrib, Apeiron thank u
[07:54] <Apeiron> jrib, if thats what you mean
[07:54] <jrib> Apeiron: I mean he may want the song to play today at 5pm
[07:54] <jrib> but just today
[07:55] <Apeiron> jrib, ah
[07:55] <jrib> yes, "it" is a terrible word, I should be more specific :)
[07:57] <mrintegrity> lo all, anyone know if you can make the skype window smaller than its default? it takes up most of my 15" screen :/
[07:58] <Apeiron> mrintegrity, huh, i guess thats not possible, but i can remember that kwin, the kde windowmanager has a lot of features to tweak specific windows
[07:59] <mrintegrity> Apeiron, cool thnx..
[07:59] <Apeiron> mrintegrity, but dunno if its possible to resize a app below minimum allowed by the app
[07:59] <Nik001> hi
[08:00] <mrintegrity> Apeiron, skype sucks anyway :)#
[08:00] <[H] 3b0R> is there any alternative to wlassistant and wifi-radar?
[08:00] <Nik001> I have problems in watching apple webcast
[08:00] <Nik001> can U help me?
[08:00] <Apeiron> mrintegrity, i heard rumor about a gaim plugin for skype ^^
[08:00] <mrintegrity> Apeiron, cool
[08:00] <mrbayHU> can anyone help me in setting mysql charset on an ubuntu server?
[08:01] <[H] 3b0R> Apeiron: wouldnt suprise if its true
[08:01] <[H] 3b0R> *me
[08:01] <Apeiron> but dunno if i remember right (maybe it was trillian or so.. my memory is like a paper shot with a pumpgun :)
[08:01] <Nik001> I can't watch the last apple webcast with firefox. Anyone has the same prob?
[08:02] <zad> evening
[08:02] <Sp4rKy> hi
[08:03] <zad> anyone able to help me please
[08:03] <zad> my head hurtws
[08:03] <Sp4rKy> please does exists a command for resize picture in shell ?
[08:03] <zad> hurts
[08:03] <jrib> Sp4rKy: convert, from the imagemagick package
[08:03] <Sp4rKy> k
[08:03] <Sp4rKy> merci
[08:03] <Sp4rKy> oups
[08:03] <Sp4rKy> thx :d
[08:03] <zad> i had a power cut last night
[08:04] <zad> now it wont mount root
[08:04] <jrib> Sp4rKy: mogrify too, checkout the imagemagick site for a reference.  One of these commands makes a resized, the other actually resizes the original
[08:04] <MenZa> zad: I don't know if it'd help, but have you tried fsck'ing your filesystem?
[08:05] <zad> MenZa
[08:05] <zad> i cant find a way of running fsck
[08:05] <MenZa> zad: hmm, makes sense.
[08:05] <zad> i get to busy box
[08:05] <MenZa> Well, you could run a live cd.
[08:05] <zad> but from there im stuck
[08:05] <zad> yeah i didnt know if that would work
[08:05] <zad> i got knoppix
[08:05] <zad> and am downloading latest release of ubuntu live
[08:06] <zad> which would be easiest to run?
[08:06] <Apeiron> i guess knoppix would do the job.
[08:06] <zad> k :)
[08:06] <abhi> during the installation of "gstreamer0.10-plugins-good" it show error that clamav-base error. what is that?
[08:07] <abhi> help...
[08:07] <qwerty2k> does aiglx work under dapper? since the enw beta nvidia drivers have released which supports it i wanted to try it
[08:07] <MenZa> zad: I'd do an Ubuntu disk, but that's just me :D
[08:07] <manmadha> jrib, he i tried like this see the out put.."at -f vlc /home/sri/k2/Songs/7.G Brunhavana Colony 11:40pm sep 22;
[08:07] <manmadha> syntax error. Last token seen: /
[08:07] <manmadha> Garbled time
[08:07] <manmadha> "
[08:08] <manmadha> jrib, can u give me the syntax to play a file on perticular time
[08:08] <stefg> manmadha: you've got to quote the song title, it contains spaces
[08:08] <zad> will chill in here and let ya know :)
[08:09] <manmadha> stefg, i did nt get u
[08:09] <manmadha> ...
[08:09] <jrib> manmadha: at 11:40  <-- do this and then you can do   vlc '/home/sri/k2/Songs/7.G Brunhavana Colony'
[08:10] <jrib> manmadha: umm make that:  at 11:40pm
[08:10] <manmadha> jrib, 1min
[08:10] <stefg> manmadha: '/home/sri/k2/Songs/7.G Brunhavana Colony' (note the high commas)
[08:10] <ladydoor> stefg: single-quotes?
[08:11] <stefg> not really important
[08:11] <stefg> it's a personal habit
[08:11] <lostboyz> firefox crashes in amd64 system when pointing mouse over running java applet what should i do?
[08:11] <hobophobe> Is there not an official ivtv-source package under ubuntu?
[08:12] <Frederick> in orderto install a package i can use dpkg -i package.deb tight?
[08:12] <hobophobe> yes
[08:12] <janbanan> I did just download a .zip file from a windows user. Is'nt it possible to unzip that file?
[08:12] <Frederick> hobophobe, thanks
[08:13] <stefg> !info unzip
[08:13] <ubotu> unzip: De-archiver for .zip files. In component main, is optional. Version 5.52-6ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 143 kB, installed size 332 kB
[08:13] <Apeiron> janbanan, "unzip <file>" in the console or open the zip archive with file-roller (the standard ubuntu archiver program)
[08:13] <ladydoor> ok, so. A few days ago i *apparently* got the kernel upgrade that does something nasty to grub. i rebooted my computer for the first time in a while today, only to find that in "normal-mode" the kernel won't boot--i'm stuck with a black screen--and in safe mode it won't boot either--i'm told that (0,0) isn't valid (i don't remember the exact error; this was this morning); however, my root line in grub is identical to that of my old kernel, which boot
[08:13] <Wanderer> anyone know how to find the gpg key for opera?
[08:14] <ladydoor> adding to what wanderer said, is there one for wine?
[08:14] <quintin> How do I start the onscreen keyboard in ubuntu installer ???
[08:14] <stefg> ladydoor: so are you on ubuntu now?
[08:14] <Wanderer> normally apt tells me I'm missing a key and I can recieve it and import it by the number, but it's not doing that
[08:14] <ladydoor> stefg: yup. with the 2.6.15-26 kernel
[08:15] <Skarr> When I installed ubuntu did it delete windows?
[08:15] <anze> hi
[08:15] <sharperguy> Skarr, depends what options yo chose when you installed
[08:15] <quintin> Skarr: That depends on how you installed it and what YOU did.  This should be a good lesson to backup data and make sure you know what you're doing before you do anything crazy.
[08:15] <gorrixe> hi
[08:15] <Skarr> SHIT
[08:15] <ladydoor> stefg: should i just wait until the next kernel update and not bother trying to fix this one?
[08:15] <ladydoor> !language
[08:15] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:15] <stefg> ladydoor: can you paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst and the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' to pastebin to let me have a look
[08:16] <quintin> How do I start the onscreen keyboard in the install disc ???
[08:16] <Skarr> Sorry
[08:16] <anze> i'm looking for some tool to enable/disable services at runtime for ubuntu (not the tool included in gnome)
[08:16] <anze> what to use
[08:16] <Skarr> Is there anyway that I can see if I can switch back to windows?
[08:16] <Apeiron> anze, the gnome tool is just working fine for me, why dont you like it?
[08:16] <appelza> reboot?
[08:16] <quintin> Skarr: You can paypal me for phone support. =)
[08:16] <sharperguy> Skarr, when you reboot, you should get a list of options, if windows is not one of them, you'be deleted it
[08:16] <ladydoor> stefg: certainly, just a sec. i should mention that i haven't changed my partition table lately :-)
[08:16] <Skarr> ok
[08:16] <Skarr> thanks
[08:16] <Skarr> I chose the first option on setup
[08:16] <Skarr> I think that means deleted.
[08:16] <appelza> Youd be better off without windows anyway ;)
[08:16] <appelza> teehee.
[08:17] <quintin> Seriously, how do I start the onscreen keyboard?!?!?
[08:17] <Skarr> Well, it's the computer in my room, so I thought I could do what I wanted with it but my parents got all mad.
[08:17] <manmadha> jrib, hi dude.....i tried this but it is already 11.46....can u see where is my mistake....sri@sri-desktop:~$ at 11:45pm sep 22;
[08:17] <manmadha> warning: commands will be executed using /bin/sh
[08:17] <manmadha> at> vlc '/home/sri/k2/Songs/7.G Brunhavana Colony'
[08:17] <manmadha> at> sri@sri-desktop:~$
[08:17] <manmadha> after at>i pressed ctrl+c
[08:18] <jrib> manmadha: press ctrl-d instead
[08:18] <manmadha> jrib, ok ....1m
[08:18] <quintin> Am I typing with invisible ink wtf?  ONSCREEN KEYBOARD :(  this is very important
[08:19] <mypapitfx> quintin:      c
[08:19] <Wanderer> !opera
[08:19] <Apeiron> quintin, i dont know about anything called onscreen keyboard.. sry :)
[08:19] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[08:19] <jrib> !patience > quintin
[08:19] <anze> Apeiron, in the gnome services GUI, i don't see *all* the services that are availiable :)
[08:19] <Apeiron> anze, rly? thats strange.. maybe just unlinking the symbolic link from init.d to <your runlevel>?
[08:19] <quintin> jrib: yea eat me kthnxbie :)
[08:20] <jrib> quintin: that's not the way to get help...
[08:20] <ladydoor> !ru
[08:20] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[08:20] <stefg> !patince
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patince - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <stefg> !patience
[08:20] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:20] <hobophobe> quintin, http://www.google.com/ and look for "ubuntu onscreen keyboard" ?
[08:20] <ladydoor> stefg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24403
[08:21] <stefg> k
[08:21] <haakonn> i have a problem with the flashplugin-nonfree package on a machine i run. can you please take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24402 and tell me what's going on and how to fix it?
[08:21] <Renan_s2> !ntfs
[08:21] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:21] <anze> Apeiron, es rly. i can see all the serivces possible in /etc/rc5.d/ but gnome serivces tool shows me only a few of them :-/
[08:22] <quintin> hobophobe: yes trying that.  I tried that before asking, of course.  not getting too far
[08:22] <manmadha> jrib, no use dude.....see this.....sri@sri-desktop:~$ at 11:50pm sep 22;
[08:22] <manmadha> warning: commands will be executed using /bin/sh
[08:22] <manmadha> at> vlc '/home/sri/k2/Songs/7.G Brunhavana Colony'
[08:22] <manmadha> at> <EOT>
[08:22] <manmadha> job 3 at Fri Sep 22 23:50:00 2006
[08:22] <manmadha> sri@sri-desktop:~$ atq
[08:22] <manmadha> 3       Fri Sep 22 23:50:00 2006 a sri
[08:22] <jrib> ubotu: tell manmadha about paste
[08:22] <manmadha> jrib, sorry
[08:22] <stefg> ladydoor: /dev/hda3 _cannot_ be (hd0,0) in grub-speak... but let me read further
[08:22] <jrib> manmadha: what's wrong? it didn't start?
[08:22] <manmadha> jrib, nope
[08:22] <Apeiron> anze, hm, i cant see a reason for that, i see all my services in the frontend.. anyway, since there is no tool like "rc-update" in debian/ubuntu i guess you have to correct that by hand
[08:23] <jrib> manmadha: oh I know why... vlc tries to open in X, but at won't have DISPLAY set.  Why don't you try using mpg321?
[08:23] <hobophobe> quintin, apparently there's 'sok' and 'gok' among other onscreen keyboards. I'm not sure which one you have installed.
[08:23] <manmadha> jrib, i didnt installed yet
[08:23] <stefg> ladydoor: what's that strange looking hda1? Compaq service-partition?
[08:24] <ladydoor> stefg: it might be good for you to know that i've installed/reinstalled several distros. therefore, my /boot partition
[08:24] <manmadha> jrib, ok i will try
[08:24] <Apeiron> jrib, or starting a script which sets the DISPLAY env var first :)
[08:24] <ikonia> I have xinerama working on my ubuntu box, how do I make gnome xinerma "aware"
[08:24] <ladydoor> stefg: hda1 is /boot, hda3 is /hda6 is /home
[08:24] <jrib> manmadha: I just tested and mpg321 works fine here.  if you want vlc to pop up then you can do what Apeiron suggested
[08:25] <anze> Apeiron, but why is that? I've made like 20installation of ubuntu and in *all* cases only a few services was visible
[08:25] <yaman> hi every one can any one help me to make my atiixp sound card work on my new ubuntu ?
[08:25] <abhi> how can i connect my nokia mobile using blue tooth. there is no blue tooth manager.
[08:25] <yaman> i did install the kernel-header and the last alsa
[08:25] <ladydoor> stefg: and keep in mind that my other kernel *does* boot
[08:25] <Apeiron> anze, i dont know :)
[08:25] <yaman> yaman here am talking can any one help ?
[08:26] <ikonia> abi gnoki
[08:26] <ikonia> yaman what ?
[08:26] <anze> Apeiron, BLAST!!! :-D
[08:26] <abhi> ikonia: thanks
[08:26] <stefg> ladydoor: so your vmlinuz is on hda1, but root is hda3... i see. usplash is troublesome lately, have you tried to boot the new kernel without 'quiet splash'? (You know how to edit grub boot lines at the boot prompt, don't you?)
[08:27] <gumpish> Attempting to add a printer from a remote system via the CUPS web admin interface, I get "426 Upgrade Required" and prompted to use https to access the page. This doesn't work, so I tried adding the "Encryption Never" directive to cupsd.conf an restarting cupsd to no avail.
[08:27] <Lewis> Hi, how do I set up my wureless internet on Ubuntu? I also have a DSL cable aswell which I would be willing to use, just as long as I get the internet, im ok. Thanks for your time!
[08:28] <yaman> ikonia: my sound kard is not wokring i downloaded the last drivers from alsa and did the update but it still not working on my laptop every thing is seem to be ok but no sound my laptop is asus A6r my sound card is atiixp i am new linux user and i need some help to work on
[08:28] <haakonn> hmm. i have a problem with the flashplugin-nonfree package on a machine i run. can you please take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24402 and tell me what's going on and how to fix it?
[08:28] <ladydoor> stefg: i do almost everything in the console :-). But how does that explain the problem in recovery-mode boot? there's no splash there
[08:28] <jrib> ubotu: tell Lewis about wireless
[08:28] <ikonia> yaman is the volume turned up ?
[08:28] <jrib> ubotu: tell Lewis about dsl
[08:28] <stefg> ladydoor: good point... hmmmm
[08:28] <yaman> ikonia yeah i am sure it is
[08:28] <ladydoor> stefg: i will definitely try your suggestion--i'm just curious
[08:28] <yaman> but still no sound come up
[08:28] <ikonia> what do you mean your sure it is. It either isn't or it is
[08:29] <yaman> ikonia yeah sure it's up
[08:29] <ikonia> ok - how are you checking that
[08:29] <yaman> ikonia alsamixer ??
[08:29] <Lewis> Hi, how do I set up my wureless internet on Ubuntu? I also have a DSL cable aswell which I would be willing to use, just as long as I get the internet, im ok. Thanks for your time!
[08:29] <ladydoor> stefg: a quandary, no?
[08:29] <jrib> Lewis: check your private messages from ubotu
[08:29] <yaman> ikonia and there is a peaker in the taskbar
[08:29] <fredl> hey guys, nybody having problems with flashplugin-nonfree?
[08:29] <Lewis> thanks
[08:29] <yaman> speaker *
[08:30] <janbanan> How du I install new fonts?
[08:30] <jrib> ubotu: tell janbanan about fonts
[08:30] <ladydoor> janbanan: there are a lot in synaptic if you search for fonts
[08:30] <devilsadvocate> Lewis : what wireless adapter do yo have?
[08:30] <yaman> :')
[08:30] <ikonia> ok - so when you double click on the speaker in the taskbar you see th emaster bolume
[08:30] <stefg> ladydoor: to be honest... i#ve given up on ubuntu stock kernels a while ago... nothing but trouble. I'll roll my own
[08:30] <yaman> ikonia : yeah i can c it and make it full
[08:30] <ikonia> ok
[08:31] <Lewis> I am with Orange broadband, i'll find what the wireless adapter is called now
[08:31] <ikonia> what sound card is in the laptop
[08:31] <fredl> it would seem that instaling flashplugin-nonfree tries to run update-rc.d somehow and it gives a usage message.
[08:31] <yaman> atiixp
[08:31] <Lewis> Inventel
[08:31] <ladydoor> stefg: hmmm, really? This is the first time I've had a problem, personally. Thanks for your help anyway--as long as I can boot into *something* i suppose it's not a big deal :-)
[08:31] <ikonia> I've never heard of an atiixp
[08:31] <yaman> its from ati
[08:31] <yaman> i think its the same realtek company
[08:31] <fredl> nobody here that has flashplugin-nonfree installed has the same problem?
[08:31] <stefg> ladydoor: but definitely bug reporting time
[08:32] <stefg> !bugs
[08:32] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[08:32] <ikonia> have you checked if that card is supported as ati devices normally need 3rd party drivers
[08:32] <ladydoor> stefg: check check. thanks muchly
[08:32] <yaman> i don't know how to do this on e
[08:32] <fredl> oh well
[08:32] <shut-> how do u change root pass
[08:32] <jrib> fredl: pastebin your error
[08:32] <ladydoor> !root
[08:32] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:32] <fredl> !paste
[08:32] <ikonia> yaman look if the hardware is supported
[08:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:32] <ikonia> just google ie
[08:32] <ikonia> it
[08:32] <yaman> kkk thanx ikonia
[08:33] <yaman> hope it work :)
[08:33] <yaman> bye
[08:34] <fdsd> hey guys, what replaced rc.local in edgy knot3?
[08:34] <fredl> jrib, here's the error message I'm getting on apt-get dist-upgrade http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24404
[08:34] <ikonia> it
[08:34] <shut-> that didnt work i put in sudo root passwd
[08:34] <stefg> ladydoor: what make me think a bit is 'Partition table entries are not in disk order'... that might cause trouble
[08:34] <ubunoob> what package needs to be installed for the make command to work?
[08:35] <fredl> jrib, ou got the plugin installed too?
[08:35] <ikonia> make ?
[08:35] <Hoxzer> I have this really wierd problem with X-server before uninstalling jack. First of all /var/log/Xorg.0.log doens't show any errors I also checked /var/log/gdm/0:log and it showed something about xkomb but it was also said it is not fatal ..
[08:35] <jrib> fredl: yes, but I am on edgy
[08:35] <Hoxzer> I manage to start x but gdm doesn't load
[08:35] <ikonia> you'll need a compiler and maybe autotools
[08:35] <shut-> is the command to chang pass sudo root passwd
[08:35] <ubunoob> yes, like for making an installer.   such as the command   make install
[08:35] <jrib> fredl: apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree   <-- pastebin please
[08:35] <fredl> jrib, kinda at a loss why the flashplugin would try to run update-rc.d
[08:35] <ikonia> shut- if you have to ask that you shouldn't set a root password
[08:35] <jrib> shut-: no, that's not the command.  Check the wiki page again
[08:35] <ladydoor> stefg: the thing is, it hasn't caused any trouble so far. part of the issue is that I've had to delete partitions for various reasons, and so now they're not in order. I haven't seen a problem with it yet in ubuntu or slackware
[08:36] <ladydoor> shut-: it's sudo passwd root, but instead PLEASE look at what ubotu told you
[08:36] <ladydoor> !root
[08:36] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:36] <ladydoor> shut-: and what it just said ^^^
[08:36] <shut-> i dd
[08:36] <asidjazz> why wont ubuntu run /etc/bashrc or /etc/profile or /etc/bash.bashrc upon login? im tring to add some sysvars and none of those files are running when you login... ?
[08:37] <ubunoob> where might I be able to find a compiler/autotools with make in the package?
[08:37] <jrib> asidjazz: login to where?
[08:37] <fredl> jrib, output of apt-cache policy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24405
[08:37] <bXi> does anyone have a clue on how to handle .daa iso images
[08:37] <bXi> i tried using poweriso with crossover but that doesnt work
[08:38] <Lewis> When i go to System-->Administration-->Networking, nothing happens, only the loading icon appears, then dissapears
[08:38] <ladydoor> ubunoob: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[08:39] <Lewis> please help
[08:39] <asidjazz> jrib; to my ubuntu box man
[08:39] <ubunoob> thank you
[08:39] <jrib> asidjazz: I mean, are you logging into gnome?
[08:39] <surface-> Lewis, how?
[08:39] <Lewis> this happens with a few things aswell that i clic on
[08:39] <jrib> Lewis: go to applications > accessories > terminal, type 'sudo echo hi', what happens?
[08:40] <UbuntuGuy> Hey -- anyone know if ubuntu supports the Logitech Quickcam Chat?
[08:40] <UbuntuGuy> ?webcam
[08:40] <UbuntuGuy> !webcam
[08:40] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[08:40] <jrib> fredl: try downgrading to the dapper version of the package
[08:40] <jrib> fredl: (not dapper-backports)
[08:40] <surface-> Ubuntu it support logitech quickcam
[08:40] <ikonia> UbuntuGuy look rather than asking random people to remember obscure hardware lists
[08:40] <Lewis> It says unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[08:41] <fredl> jrib, how do I do that?
[08:41] <jrib> fredl: sudo apt-get install package/dapper   I think.  tell me if it doesn't work and I'll look it up
[08:41] <ikonia> Lewis your resolver is broke
[08:41] <lostboyz> how do you get the gcj working to load mozilla applets?
[08:41] <fredl> jrib, hoped you'd know on the top of your head, I can look it up myself and learn something :)
[08:42] <Lewis> My resolver?
[08:42] <fredl> jrib, tnx
[08:42] <jrib> Lewis: pastebin the contents of /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[08:42] <jrib> ubotu: tell Lewis about pastebin
[08:42] <Lewis> Sorry, im new to this stuff, what does pastebin , mean?
[08:42] <jrib> I'm psychic :)
[08:42] <stefg> !paste
[08:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:43] <UbuntuGuy> ikonia:  Yeah I did that but this model isn't listed
[08:43] <fredl> jrib, that worked!
[08:43] <Lewis> Ok, and how do I get to etc/hostname from my Ubuntu PC?
[08:44] <jrib> fredl: ok, it may bug you about upgrading to the newer version though.  I would just comment dapper-backports from my sources.list or you can learna bout apt_preferences
[08:44] <fredl> jrib, learned something again, I always wondered if there was a command to see where a package came from.
[08:44] <surface-> UbuntuGuy, i tried before this camera is working under ubuntu
[08:44] <shut-> what is good for msn
[08:44] <surface-> fredl dpkg -S
[08:44] <shut-> !msn
[08:44] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[08:44] <jrib> Lewis: in a terminal you can type: gedit /etc/hostname    and then   gedit /etc/hosts
[08:45] <surface-> fredl you can check out examples at www.linuxbyexample.co.nr
[08:45] <fredl> surface-, no I meant what jrib just told me, apt-cache policy. I knew about dpkg -S :)
[08:45] <UbuntuGuy> surface-: Thanks!
[08:45] <fredl> apt-file is also pretty cool
[08:45] <jrib> asidjazz: if you are logging into gnome, then none of those files should be sourced.  ~/.gnomerc is sourced though.  And /etc/bash.bashrc as well as ~/.bashrc get sourced when you open a terminal
[08:45] <surface-> fredl, apt-file is new to me, can do what?
[08:46] <fredl> apt-file  is  a  command  line  tool for searching packages for the APT
[08:46] <fredl>        packaging system.
[08:46] <surface-> fredl, i don't have apt-file, i have apt-cache
[08:46] <fredl> surface-, it'll tell you which package a file is from. no you need to apt-get install apt-file
[08:46] <surface-> fredl,  i see
[08:47] <PopeOfWar> I need help installing my network controller drivers.
[08:47] <Lewis> when i did the /etc/hostname command, another window came up with the word "ubuntu" in it. when i did the /etc/hosts command i got a window with this in it: "127.0.0.1 localhost"
[08:47] <surface-> fredl, apt-cache cannot shows tat?
[08:48] <fredl> surface-, nope.
[08:48] <mytruehero> so, my computer is really cool and won't let me boot the ubuntu cd. is ther some other way that I can install it?
[08:49] <mytruehero> there*
[08:49] <ladydoor> mytruehero: did you edit the bios boot order?
[08:49] <jrib> Lewis: great, now to fix your problem you are going to need to change /etc/hosts to contain this without quotes: "127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost ubuntu".  However, to edit this file you will need to reboot, and select "recovery mode" from the grub menu.  Afterwards, use the command 'nano /etc/hosts' to edit the file.  You can save with ctrl-o and then exit with ctrl-x
[08:49] <PopeOfWar> Is anybody able to help me install my network drivers?
[08:49] <ladydoor> jrib: nano -w
[08:50] <easytiger> anyone got amarok 1.4.3 installed?
[08:50] <ladydoor> jrib: it prevents lines of code from being broken
[08:50] <Lewis> jrib: o, i'll try and do that and let you know how i get on
[08:50] <jrib> Lewis: yes, I should have said to use the command 'nano -w /etc/hosts' .  Thank you ladydoor
[08:50] <ladydoor> jrib: sorry to correct you :-(. i should've done that in a pm (so now i'm apologizing publicly and not in a pm)
[08:51] <mytruehero> and apparently it has other cool tricks, too
[08:51] <ladydoor> mytruehero: did you edit the bios boot order?
[08:51] <ladydoor> mytruehero: that should be an option at the very beginning of boot
[08:51] <shut-> !create
[08:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about create - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <shut-> how u create dir
[08:51] <Wanderer> wish most packages had a changelog
[08:52] <jrib> ladydoor: no that's fine, no need to open more windows :)
[08:52] <ladydoor> shut-: mkdir dirname
[08:52] <ladydoor> jrib: good point
[08:52] <JMH> Hi. I', new to linux for the most part. I put Ubuntu on mypc and it crashes every time I start it up. Right now I'm on my little brothers pc which I also put Ubuntu on. His computer works fine. can anyone help me?
[08:52] <jrib> ubotu: tell shut- about cli
[08:52] <surface-> shut-, www.linuxbyexample.co.nr covers a simple command examples, have a look if u wish
[08:52] <zaggynl> !warez
[08:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about warez - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:52] <cmcl> boas
[08:53] <zaggynl> blah
[08:53] <[BTF] Chm0d> grrrr ive installed the linux kernel headers but module-assistant still cannot find them E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386
[08:53] <elfshdwknght> i usedubuntu a while backm but for got how to instal a tarball
[08:53] <jrib> ubotu: tell elfshdwknght about compiling
[08:53] <jrib> elfshdwknght: it's usually better if you use apt to install things though
[08:53] <ladydoor> shut-: you might also check out www.linux.org. they've got useful tutorials for beginners. also, search in www.ubuntuforums.org for console for beginners (or maybe it's commandline for beginners)
[08:53] <elfshdwknght> i couldnt find python on apt
[08:53] <Arrick> whazzup folks
[08:54] <jrib> elfshdwknght: you already have python
[08:54] <jbroome> !info python
[08:54] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 125 kB, installed size 532 kB
[08:54] <JMH> how do I start Ubuntu without x
[08:54] <ladydoor> JMH: just a sec
[08:54] <trappist> JMH: you can boot to a rescue option in grub
[08:54] <ladydoor> JMH: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[08:55] <trappist> JMH: that'll boot you straight to a root console.  when you're done there type 'exit' and X and everything will start
[08:55] <ladydoor> JMH: if you ever want gdm back, you can run this command:  sudo update-rc.d -f gdm defaults
[08:55] <elfshdwknght> how do i run it? i cant see it
[08:55] <ladydoor> JMH: and this way will *not* boot you to a root console, it will boot you to a login shell.
[08:55] <jrib> elfshdwknght: type 'python' in a terminal
[08:55] <JMH> Thanks ladydoor
[08:56] <ladydoor> JMH: no problem :-). nice to see i'm not the only ubuntu user who does that, haha
[08:56] <surface-> ladydoor, great tips
[08:56] <ladydoor> surface-: thanks! i appreciate that.
[08:56] <easytiger> how do i get libvisual-0.4-0 for ubuntu
[08:56] <elfshdwknght> kk, thanks much
[08:56] <Arrick> what program in ubuntu opens .pdf files?
[08:57] <jrib> Arrick: evince is default
[08:57] <easytiger> evince or acrobat arick
[08:57] <henper> Arrick: evince and others
[08:57] <henper> acroba, kpdf, xpdf,ghostview..
[08:57] <twopoint0> mmmm any volunteers to assist me with planning and set up for an ubuntu installation? maybe via PMs since I don't want to flood the chat
[08:58] <mytruehero> ladydoor: yes I did. I put CD-Rom at the top of the order. I can also enter my boot menu and manually select a boot device. when I select the ubuntu cd, it says "no bootable volume detected," or something similar
[08:58] <Lewis> Ok, i've done what you asked, now in booting my pc back up...What do I do once booted?
[08:58] <Arrick> twopoint0, you can use the channel #arrick if you would like, if you can get anyone to join you there
[08:58] <jbroome> twopoint0: download CD, burn cd, boot cd, welcome to ubuntu
[08:58] <jrib> Lewis: it should work
[08:58] <PopeOfWar> twopoint0: We can only give you a list of instructions... you will need to reformat your hard drive in order to create the partitions to install ubuntu
[08:58] <ladydoor> mytruehero: oh...hmm. Have you double-checked to make sure you definitely burned the iso to the cd (as opposed to copying it as a file onto the cd?)
[08:58] <ladydoor> ?
[08:58] <PopeOfWar> jbroome: lmao
[08:59] <Lewis> Ok, so my internet should now be working?
[08:59] <twopoint0> ok, ty
[08:59] <Jassovissovik> mytruehero: if you are burning the cd in windows, a great program for it is burncdcc
[08:59] <PopeOfWar> Can somebody help me install my NIC Drivers?
[08:59] <mytruehero> ladydoor: yes. I have installed ubuntu on different machines from this same cd. to be sure, I even downloaded a fresh iso, made a cd from it, opened the cd to verify that the actual image had been burned, but this cd behaves the same as the first
[09:00] <ladydoor> mytruehero: yikes. well...good luck to you
[09:00] <mytruehero> ladydoor: hehe. thanks
[09:00] <PopeOfWar> mytruehero: How many CD Drives do you have?
[09:00] <eliran`> I'll find out
[09:01] <mytruehero> popeofwar: one
[09:01] <surface-> PopeOfWar, u need to tell us ur problem
[09:02] <PopeOfWar> mytruehero: Ok, just making sure.
[09:02] <quintin> How do I open a executable program from nautilus???  I am trying to start gok the onscreen keyboard
[09:02] <jrib> Lewis: idk about internet, that was just to fix your network dialog
[09:02] <surface-> quintin, just double click, if it allows to run at nautilus
[09:03] <Lewis> Ok, i've just configured the network settings and it says that The interface eth0 is active
[09:03] <jrib> quintin: type alt-f2 and type gok, may be easier
[09:03] <juan_> is there anyway to tell x which xorg.conf to load?
[09:03] <quintin> surface-: yea I already tried double-clicking, go figure huh!!
[09:03] <quintin> jrib: I cannot type that is the problem
[09:03] <Lewis> Do I need to do anything else as i've just clicked on Firefox, typed in a URL and nothing happened, it said that it cannot locate server in a dialogue box
[09:03] <PopeOfWar> surface-: At the original installation of ubuntu, it didn't detect the controller. Killgore gave me a string to type into terminal last night, and it saw the controller, but had no way of installing it. The readme that came with the drivers I downloaded are written for a Red Hat-based system.
[09:03] <quintin> Lewis: can you ping google?
[09:04] <jrib> quintin: go to system > preferences > assistive technology, enable it, then logout and back in
[09:04] <Lewis> Hoew doquintin: How do I do this?
[09:04] <quintin> jrib: I have already tried that once, and it did not work.  (this is the LiveCD installer ....
[09:04] <jrib> quintin: though to log in you need to type.  I don't know how that works
[09:04] <mytruehero> any suggestions? is there a different way that I can install ubuntu that does not require booting the cd?
[09:04] <Lewis> quintin: how do i do this *
[09:04] <PopeOfWar> surface-: In my connections setup window, I have a modem connection only, which is disabled because I am using broadband. I have no ethernet connection selection in that window.
[09:04] <surface-> PopeOfWar, what command line u do?
[09:05] <quintin> Lewis: open a terminal and type "ping google.com" then hit enter.  hit ctrl+c to quit the ping
[09:05] <surface-> PopeOfWar, ifconfig, gets anything?
[09:05] <PopeOfWar> surface-: Something along the lines of, "sudo lspci | gord Ethernet"
[09:05] <Lewis> "Unknown host google.com"
[09:05] <surface-> gord?
[09:05] <PopeOfWar> surface-: I don't think I got the "gord" part right...
[09:05] <surface-> grep ?
[09:05] <PopeOfWar> surface-: Yes grep!
[09:05] <jrib> quintin: this should be filed as a bug then, but can you copy the gok text right here and then paste it into the alt-f2 box?
[09:05] <PopeOfWar> lmao
[09:06] <surface-> lspci is to list ur pci
[09:06] <surface-> grep is to filter all lines besides with keyword ethernet
[09:06] <quintin> jrib: I.CAN.NOT.TYPE
[09:06] <PopeOfWar> surface-: It returned, "0000:00:19.0 Intel Corporation..."
[09:06] <PopeOfWar> surface-: Ok, well thanks for telling me
[09:06] <mikefoo> I have a 14 drive raid5 array and its doing ~90Mbit/s seems to be bottle necking, a simply ls on the array hangs for 2-3 seconds. It is 95% wrties, is this the sheer bottle neck of raid5 due to all thr writes?
[09:07] <surface-> PopeOfWar, is it a network card or on board chipset?
[09:07] <PopeOfWar> surface-: Integrated chipset
[09:07] <surface-> PopeOfWar, what notebook is it?
[09:07] <t3nxt> i download the 64 bits ubuntu... when i boot with live cd everything goes down just fine but my mouse and keyboard doesnt, i know the system is working because the clock on the right top of the screen is working and if hit my computer power button a dialog appears asking if i want to log, restart or shut down but i can do nothing because my mouse and keyboard arent working...
[09:07] <PopeOfWar> surface-: It's a Dell XPS 410 Desktop
[09:08] <surface-> PopeOfWar, my dell works okay, but different series. let me think
[09:08] <PopeOfWar> t3nxt: Are you using USB or PS/2 mouse/keyboard?
[09:08] <gumpish> Attempting to add a printer from a remote system via the CUPS web admin interface, I get "426 Upgrade Required" and prompted to use https to access the page. This doesn't work, so I tried adding the "Encryption Never" directive to cupsd.conf an restarting cupsd to no avail.
[09:08] <t3nxt> Popeofwar: PS/2
[09:08] <PopeOfWar> surface-: One thing I didn't try yet, though, in my old computer, I have a relatively new PCI NIC card...
[09:09] <surface-> PopeOfWar, Intel Corporation 82801DB PRO/100 VE (MOB) Ethernet Controller (rev 81) ??
[09:09] <Lewis> it says "unknown host google.com" when i try to ping, what should i do now?
[09:09] <PopeOfWar> surface-: I have no idea who made it or what it's specs are, but I will go get it.
[09:09] <quintin> jrib: somewhat curios is that I can set magnifier to work, logout, login and magnifier starts.  but not onscreen keyboard
[09:09] <PopeOfWar> surface-: Let me look my Intel card up again, one sec.
[09:10] <PopeOfWar> surface-: Gigabit (10/100/1000 Mbits/sec) LAN subsystem using the Intel 82566DC Gigabit Ethernet Controller
[09:10] <PopeOfWar> surface-: Motherboard specs can be found at: http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/dp965lt/index.htm
[09:10] <surface-> PopeOfWar, Gigabit Ethernet??? cool
[09:10] <PopeOfWar> surface-: It's a motherboard made specifically for Dell, I think...
[09:11] <surface-> PopeOfWar, where did u plug ur cable into?
[09:11] <Emigre> Hello - I need some serious help and it's got a bit of McGyvering required.  All I have is a LiveCD of Dapper Drake Ubuntu.  I have two primary partitions and the wrong one has the boot flag - which is why I can't install Windows XP.  I need to find a way to change the boot flag from /dev/sda2 to dev/sda1 - again, using only DapperDrake's liveCD.
[09:11] <surface-> PopeOfWar, to normal ethernet or gigabit ethernet?
[09:11] <PopeOfWar> surface-: Cable Line>Cable Modem>Computer
[09:11] <PopeOfWar> surface-: I have only one port
[09:11] <jrib> quintin: yeah, something must be wrong with gok.  I double clicked here and it started.  When I asked you to copy and paste before, I thought you may be able to use the mouse to do so, that might give us some error output on the terminal
[09:11] <surface-> PopeOfWar, nonono , i mean ur network cable plugin to where?
[09:11] <Lewis> Nevermind, i've fixed the internet
[09:11] <Lewis> Thanks for all your help guys
[09:11] <PopeOfWar> surface-: The only ethernet port I have
[09:12] <Lewis> It's really appreciated
[09:12] <Lewis> bye!
[09:12] <t3nxt> Does anyone knows how can i fix my problem?
[09:12] <surface-> PopeOfWar, i mean from ur notebook, out the cable and plug to where?
[09:12] <surface-> switch? router?
[09:12] <PopeOfWar> suface-: I don't have a notebook...
[09:12] <surface-> PopeOfWar, ok at ur pc
[09:12] <`m0> hi can someone help me with this mini question..... I have bought Cisco VPN and it asks  me to tell it where the kernel source files are
[09:12] <`m0> I cannot find my Kernel source files on my ssystem
[09:13] <PopeOfWar> surface-: Ahhhh... I'm confused...
[09:13] <surface-> PopeOfWar, make sure u plug to gigabit networks, else it won't works
[09:13] <TheGateKeeper> `m0: you will need to install them
[09:13] <surface-> PopeOfWar, because ur network card is for gigabits network
[09:13] <surface-> PopeOfWar, not a normal ethernet card.
[09:14] <t3nxt> i downloaded the 64 bits ubuntu... when i booted with live cd everything goes down just fine but my mouse and keyboard doesnt, i know the system is working because the clock on the right top of the screen is working and if hit my computer power button a dialog appears asking if i want to log, restart or shut down but i can do nothing because my mouse and keyboard arent working... i have a PS/2 keyboard and mouse, my system is a Pentium 4 EM64T
[09:14] <PopeOfWar> surface-: I only have one ethernet port on my computer. I am plugged directly from my modem into my computer. And this computer is the same one that runs ubuntu, but I'm boted into WinXP right now
[09:14] <`m0> TheGateKeeper doesn't it compile it from defauly, does my installaation come with the source files?>
[09:14] <PopeOfWar> booted*
[09:14] <`m0> i thought linux comes with the source files for the kernel, cause Cisco VPN requires the headers of the Kernel source
[09:15] <Lewis> Whats the best msn client to use on Ubuntu?
[09:15] <`m0> gaim
[09:15] <Lewis> Thanks
[09:15] <hobophobe> `m0, you can install them as needed, if that's what you mean?
[09:15] <ladydoor> !best
[09:15] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[09:15] <TheGateKeeper> `m0: nope you are using a binary distribution, with ubuntu you have to even install gcc
[09:15] <pty> `m0: you can install the kernel source using synaptic
[09:15] <enyc> t3nxt: I would be tempted to update the motherboard bios (first) and try turining on/off usb keyborad compatibility/emultaion next
[09:15] <`m0> i need the kernel source files
[09:15] <surface-> PopeOfWar, okay u mean the ethernet working at windows, but not at ubuntu?
[09:15] <ladydoor> Lewis: it depends what you're looking for.
[09:16] <`m0> i am not connected online ;9
[09:16] <`m0> :(
[09:16] <Lewis> Msn Messenger basically, thats all
[09:16] <pty> t
[09:16] <enyc> Lewis: ewww
[09:16] <hobophobe> the headers will suffice, but it will be trickier getting them there if you're not connected :o/
[09:16] <B_166-ER-X> Amsn
[09:16] <quintin> `mo: that is dependent upon which distro you are installing.  You can install the source for what you have easily with synaptic though so quit whining and do that.
[09:16] <enyc> Lewis: use GAIM to logon there? that works iirc
[09:16] <PopeOfWar> surface-: Correct. I have absolutely no problem with my windows connection, but when I run Ubuntu on the SAME machine, it acts like ther IS no controller.
[09:16] <quintin> `mo:  $ uname -a   and search for your kernel version in synaptic
[09:16] <pty> Lewis: GAIM is the best all round IM client
[09:16] <TheGateKeeper> not 100% sure but I think you need to enable universe & apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.27
[09:17] <jrib> quintin: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gok/+bug/42308
[09:17] <ladydoor> !best
[09:17] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[09:17] <enyc> Lewis: there are voirous mulitiprotocal messengers that support msn messenfer etc.
[09:17] <TheGateKeeper> `m0:  not 100% sure but I think you need to enable universe & apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.27
[09:17] <ladydoor> pty: that's a matter of opinion. please take that to ubuntu-offtopic
[09:17] <madmax> i'm upgrading to edgy and after dist-upgrade i get:
[09:17] <madmax> dpkg: regarding .../mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb_2.0~beta2-1_all.deb containing mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb:
[09:17] <madmax>  mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb breaks firefox (<< 1.99)
[09:17] <madmax>   firefox (version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-ubuntu0.6.06) is installed.
[09:17] <`m0> i have 2.6.15-26-386
[09:17] <jrib> quintin: you might want to try to install sok since gok seems to be buggy on the live cd
[09:18] <PopeOfWar> surface-: And currently, I am getting 100Mbit/sec on my connection, so my card/network setup DOES work...
[09:18] <quintin> jrib: I have not had good experiences installin gthings on the livecd
[09:18] <surface-> PopeOfWar, emmm i never try gigabits before, sorry i think i couldn't help. anyway try ifconfig to see whether ur eth0 is there  or not.
[09:18] <PopeOfWar> BRB, I WILL GO GET MY OLD CARD
[09:18] <quintin> jrib: do you know how to locate it in synaptic?  (remember, I can only click, not type!!"
[09:18] <PopeOfWar> Sorry, about the caps, lol, oops
[09:18] <jrib> quintin: I'll find the section for you
[09:18] <TheGateKeeper> `m0: if you do a package search say using konqueor apt;/ you will see what you need
[09:19] <quintin> jrib: thank you kindly
[09:19] <TheGateKeeper> `m0: might also need to install build-essential depending on what you are doing
[09:19] <surface-> PopeOfWar, i tot its gigabits card, should be more than 100Mbit/sec you can get if u plugin to gigabits network.
[09:19] <`m0> yes I need to be connected online
[09:19] <`m0> I will do this at home
[09:19] <`m0> Thanks guys
[09:20] <`m0> Can we configure VPN withought a VPN client :s
[09:20] <surface-> PopeOfWar, anyway it doens't mean anything
[09:20] <madmax> damn it... i can't install edgy... "apt-get -f install" gives me errors...
[09:20] <kwah_> nick kwah
[09:20] <TheGateKeeper> `m0: not sure but there is a VPN howto on the ubuntu wiki
[09:21] <ladydoor> madmax: that would be because edgy is a development release! beware!
[09:21] <elfshdwknght> ok, im back, but this time with an audio problem. my sound is so scratchy. how do i fix?
[09:21] <jrib> quintin: hmm where did we read about SOK?  I can't find it and it seems to still be under development
[09:21] <juan_> is it possible to change the file x uses as xorg.conf e.g if i had two files xorg.twin and xorg.sing
[09:21] <madmax> i know...
[09:21] <quintin> jrib: =(((((
[09:21] <pty> madmax: best method imho is to back up your data and clean install it
[09:21] <ladydoor> madmax: sorry then...you'd be surprised how many people don't, though
[09:22] <PopeOfWar> surface-: I am not on a Gbit network. I am connected directly to my modem, which, I think is a 100Mb net
[09:22] <quintin> jrib: can I install the operating system with ONLY CLICKING?? and then ssh from my current machine to continue?
[09:22] <madmax> pty: i'm too lazy for that :)
[09:22] <shut-> anyone know how i can install redalert
[09:22] <PopeOfWar> surface-: Yeah, on the back of the modem, it says, "Ethernet 10/100"
[09:22] <Xappe> juan_: maybe if you symlink the one that you wnat to use at the moment
[09:22] <jrib> quintin: no, I think you'll need to setup a username at some point
[09:23] <quintin> jrib: :(((((
[09:23] <ladydoor> quintin: there's no root password by default, and as such you need to set up a user account
[09:23] <ladydoor> quintin: otherwise, it would be impossible to log in to the machine.
[09:23] <TheGateKeeper> `m0: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FindPage?action=fullsearch&titlesearch=1&value=vpn
[09:24] <madmax> i have mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb that would break my old firefox version but i have a new firefox queued for install as well... but my system seems to want to install mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb first
[09:24] <juan_> xappe how wud i do that, actually what is that?
[09:24] <jrib> quintin: hmm there are some other packages that give you keyboards.  They probably aren't as good as gok though.  gtkeyboard and xvkbd appear here
[09:24] <quintin> jrib: don't care as long as I can get something moving ... ..
[09:25] <jrib> ok well they are both in universe.  Have you enabled that?
[09:25] <quintin> jrib: no.  I'm on the LiveCD remember ....
[09:25] <jrib> !info gtkeyboard
[09:25] <ubotu> gtkeyboard: A highly-configurable on-screen keyboard for mouse-typing. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.7-4 (dapper), package size 344 kB, installed size 1080 kB
[09:26] <Xappe> juan_: you make a link called xorg.conf that points at the file you want to use as xorg.conf: sudo ln -s /etc/X11/xorg.twin /etc/X11/xorg.conf (remove the file xorg.conf first). I'm not sure it works though...
[09:26] <jrib> quintin: ok, go to system > administration > synaptic.  Then to Settings > Repostiories, and click to enable the Universe repository
[09:26] <SurfnKid> does anyone know what linux software can design patch panels, racks, cable management
[09:26] <quintin> jrib: ok, this I know.  where do I find it after that?
[09:26] <madmax> would someone pretty please help me? i've already downloaded and installed almost all the edgy packages... i get stuck with this stupid firefox thing... how do i stop my system from installing firefox?
[09:27] <shut-> is there a way to install redalert
[09:27] <juan_> will give it a go thx
[09:28] <rixxon> how can i put Places and System in Applications menu?
[09:28] <rixxon> alacarte will not allow me to do this
[09:28] <jrib> quintin: ok it's in the miscellaneous - graphical (universe) section
[09:28] <Jassovissovik> rixxon, there is a "start menu" type of applet for GnomePanel
[09:29] <Xappe> juan_: and if the xserver won't start, just copy your backup back to xorg.conf
[09:29] <Xappe> juan_: and remove the link
[09:29] <rixxon> Jassovissovik: "main menu"? thanks
[09:29] <shut-> i lost my aplication system and places at top
[09:29] <shut-> how do i undo this
[09:30] <jrib> shut-: right click > add to panel
[09:30] <shut-> ok
[09:30] <shut->  then what one
[09:30] <Jassovissovik> rixxon - got it sorted now?
[09:30] <voraistos> one of the 2 shut-
[09:30] <jrib> shut-: "menu bar"
[09:30] <[BTF] Chm0d> ok i have a problem...i have installed my header files but using module-assistant to install ivtv i update and then prepare but I get that the package of my header files no such file or directory?  any answers to this?
[09:30] <Wibble-> I'm having real problems with instaling a Samsung ML-1510 printer - I downloaded the driver and installed it "normally", but it still can't print a test page.  On 5.10 I installed the driver via the CUPS admin interface, but this appears to be disabled now, so I'm completely stumped as to how to fix it! can anyone help?
[09:30] <voraistos> shut- the one u prefer
[09:31] <mikefoo> Woud ethtool report speed of 1000mbit if I am using 100mbit cable only?
[09:31] <HOT> gah broke trucrypt by grabbing latest kernel....no more porn stash :(
[09:31] <shut-> ok thanks
[09:31] <voraistos> mikefoo: depends on your controler
[09:31] <shut-> how can i install a windows game of a disk
[09:32] <madmax> i think i fixed it with synaptic
[09:32] <voraistos> shut- install windows
[09:32] <[BTF] Chm0d> LOL
[09:32] <shut-> is there a way without installing windows
[09:32] <HOT> shut-: you could try wine or caldega but dont bet on it
[09:32] <jrib> shut-: wine or cedega
[09:32] <Toaster> strange. Yesterday I installed xgl, compiz, cgw etc..today I tried to reinstall it. But after removing the packages, I'm not able to install them again!
[09:33] <voraistos> shut- that might actually be the best way. but u can use wine. winhq.org i think
[09:33] <HOT> erm cedega even, actually works for me on a few games
[09:33] <shut-> okk
[09:33] <quintin> jrib: thanks.... I will try to install it.  any caveats re: installing to a livecd ?
[09:33] <voraistos> shut- check out loki installers as well
[09:33] <shut-> ok
[09:33] <voraistos> shut- u have to pay to use cedega; and all they do is stealing software
[09:34] <HOT> i find vanilla wine works better than cedega hacks
[09:34] <jrib> quintin: nope, should be the same as a regular isntall except it doesn't persist after a reboot
[09:34] <rixxon> Jassovissovik: yea, thanks
[09:34] <voraistos> shut- which game do u wanna play ?
[09:34] <voraistos> shut- Or just try to install ;)
[09:35] <Skarr> How do I install windows on ubuntu?
[09:35] <HOT> vmware
[09:35] <jrib> quintin: xvkbd is the other one you may want to try, and both binaries end up in /usr/bin so you cna double click them to open in nautilus
[09:35] <Toaster> check out the cedega-gamesDB
[09:35] <HOT> Skarr: Vmware
[09:35] <Skarr> !vmware
[09:35] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[09:35] <voraistos> Skarr: u dont wanna do that. ubuntu is about non having malware on your hdd
[09:35] <Code-E> tit what?! tities
[09:35] <Skarr> I NEED TO
[09:35] <Skarr> its a family computer
[09:35] <Skarr> sheesh/
[09:36] <quintin> Skarr: er, you can't install windows on ubuntu
[09:36] <easytiger> anyone know how to get libvisual 0.4 on ubuntu?
[09:36] <voraistos> Skarr: ubuntu is family oriented. linux is a multi user system ;)
[09:36] <HOT> Skarr: le sigh, vmware
[09:36] <Skarr> ok
[09:36] <quintin> Skarr: Are you saying you want a dual-boot with choice of running either windows or ubuntu ?
[09:36] <Skarr> yes
[09:36] <Skarr> yes I am.
[09:36] <voraistos> Skarr: i think if u dunno it is too late now
[09:37] <voraistos> Skarr: did u format the whole disk ?
[09:37] <quintin> Skarr: You need to partition your hard disk with fdisk, install windows, then install ubuntu last.  order is important, as windows will overwrite your mbr no matter what when you install it, so install it first
[09:37] <Answer> Skarr, you just need to partition enough free space to install windows.
[09:37] <HOT> anyone got any working experience of truecrypt, i cant seem to load the kernel module after grabbing latest headers
[09:37] <Answer> Skarr, once you install windows on the partition, use the ubuntu live cd to reinstall the grub boot loader and it will autodetect the windows partition
[09:37] <Iam8up> is anyone aware of any problems with the ISO downloads?
[09:38] <Skarr> OK, 1. what is f disk, 2. how do i uninstall ubuntu?
[09:38] <Skarr> (sorry for being a noob)
[09:38] <Iam8up> Skarr - fdisk is a partitioning tool (commandline one)
[09:38] <Iam8up> what do you mean by uninstall ubuntu?
[09:38] <voraistos> or u can gparted your disc, and reinstall the bootloader manually later. and get win workin
[09:38] <Skarr> ok
[09:38] <Jassovissovik> !fdisk
[09:38] <Answer> Skarr, if you want to completely wipe out ubuntu just install windows from the cd and format the disk
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <jelly> Skarr: Answer got it right, you don't really have to uninstall.
[09:38] <Answer> yay me
[09:38] <Skarr> oh, so I have to run a windows emulator to run the exe file?
[09:39] <jelly> however that option requires least knowledge. ;-)
[09:39] <Skarr> The windows setup.exe
[09:39] <Answer> Skarr, you hve to install windows from a CD !
[09:39] <Skarr> I have the CD
[09:39] <Iam8up> Skarr - stick in a windows xp cd, and boot off of it
[09:39] <voraistos> Damn. u cant tell people remove their OS to install malware like that! you have to create the partition for the malware after installing ubuntu. here is the challenge
[09:39] <Iam8up> once you get that far you will be able to figure it out if you have at least the brain capacity of a dead rodent
[09:39] <easytiger> lol
[09:39] <HOT> Skarr: you need to understand the difference, do you want to duel boot OR run windows "inside" linux?
[09:40] <Skarr> Duel boot
[09:40] <Iam8up> DUAL boot
[09:40] <quintin> voraistos: er, both partitions should be created before-hand
[09:40] <jelly> Skarr: Good.  First, do you have any important data on ubuntu already?  That is, are you fine with reinstalling ubuntu?
[09:40] <voraistos> Skarr: or u can make ubuntu run like a fake windows: thats fun as well
[09:40] <Skarr> Yeah, I don't have anything on there.
[09:40] <Skarr> Except default stuff.
[09:40] <easytiger> !libvisual
[09:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libvisual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <voraistos> quintin. yeah, but in that case thats too late. the point is not to remove ubuntu. resize the part
[09:42] <Skarr> Jelly: So what next?
[09:42] <jelly> Skarr: ok, so the easiest thing to do is: wipe the whole disk, install windows from windows CD _but_ don't let it take the whole disk. About 20 GB is enough for a decent installation.
[09:42] <Bird> How do I hack the white house?
[09:42] <Iam8up> ...lol....
[09:42] <jelly> Bird: use a really sturdy axe.
[09:42] <Skarr> The white house is a physical object.
[09:42] <HOT> with an axe?
[09:42] <jrib> Bird: /exit ?
[09:42] <Bird> I know im just messing around im bored.
[09:42] <voraistos> Skarr. windows installer will tell u there is a virus on your computer. dont worry. Microsoft guys are not very good thats normal.
[09:42] <Skarr> But thank you jelly
[09:42] <chaos> to join two commands together you use && right?
[09:43] <Skarr> Shut up voraistos, I don't need your peccimistic bull.
[09:43] <voraistos> Skarr: thats actually true
[09:43] <quintin> chaos: && is logical and.  it doesn't "join two commands together", it executes the second command if and ONLY IF the first command returns 0
[09:43] <Skarr> Oh, sorry
[09:43] <Skarr> lmao
[09:43] <Iam8up> quintin - how does that compare with ; ?
[09:44] <Skarr> Ok last question
[09:44] <Bird> Does anyone want to try to connect to my I.P. address?
[09:44] <HOT> ok broke truecrypt and vmware, can anyone tell me where to get the latest 2.6.15-27-386 kernel source?
[09:44] <Skarr> how do I wipe the disk?
[09:44] <Iam8up> Bird - please shut up or leave
[09:44] <dshaper> Skarr: 1.Boot windows from cd and install ( make sure you have ubuntu cd near you )( use 10 GB for windows )  2. Boot Linux follow steps and install.
[09:44] <quintin> Iam8up: vis-a-vis bash shell ?  ; is like hitting enter
[09:44] <chaos> HOT, synaptic
[09:44] <kitche> chaos: yes
[09:44] <Iam8up> quintin - gotcha
[09:44] <Skarr> ok
[09:44] <HOT> Chousuke: doesnt appear to be available, am i going mad?
[09:44] <Skarr> Ill go partition it now
[09:44] <HOT> erm chaos ^^^
[09:44] <t3nxt> im running on a EM64T P4... can i install the 32 bit version of ubuntu without problems?(im runnning windows 32 bit)
[09:45] <Iam8up> Skarr - easiest way to partition is the gparted live cd
[09:45] <chaos> HOT, apt-cache search source
[09:45] <HOT> alright , thanks
[09:45] <kitche> t3nxt: yes it will just act like an x86 machine
[09:45] <hobophobe> !module-assistant
[09:45] <ubotu> module-assistant: tool to make module package creation easier. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.2 (dapper), package size 72 kB, installed size 368 kB
[09:45] <PopeOfWar> What is a good 10/100 Ethernet card that has support for Linux?????
[09:46] <kitche> t3nxt: since x86_64 isn't truly 64 bit
[09:46] <Kyral> ...any?
[09:46] <kalif> PopeOfWar: Intel
[09:46] <Kyral> PopeOfWar: Any?
[09:46] <hobophobe> !linux-headers
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-headers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <chaos> HOT when you find the source you want, use apt-get install <packagename>
[09:46] <Skarr> !partition
[09:46] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[09:46] <jelly> Iam8up: he already has ubuntu install cd which afair has gparted as a part of the install procedure.
[09:46] <Skarr> Which partition do i partition
[09:46] <chaos> whichever partition you want to partition
[09:46] <HOT> just out of interest, when a kernel is marked -bigiron, what does that mean?
[09:47] <jelly> Skarr: delete all existing partitions, and then create a new one for Windows.
[09:47] <PopeOfWar> kalif: I currently have a 10/100/1000 Integrated NIC, but the installation instructions are for a Red Hat-based system... do you know how I would convert the strings to work with Debian?
[09:47] <Skarr> ok
[09:47] <Bird> Do I install the program backtrack onto my computer like an operating system or would I run it like a program or live off a c.d.?
[09:47] <kitche> HOT: do you mean on the package?
[09:47] <chaos> HOT, I don't know anything about bigiron : S
[09:47] <jelly> Skarr: (assuming you're running windows install cd now)
[09:47] <HOT> kitche: yes, is it a server term?
[09:47] <Iam8up> jelly - gparted is included on the ubuntu cd now? i though you could only do so with the installer...
[09:47] <PopeOfWar> Kyral: Anything that is affordable...
[09:47] <kitche> Bird: it's a live cd
[09:47] <Kyral> PopeOfWar: grab any $10 card and I'll bet it will work
[09:47] <kalif> PopeOfWar: it should work right out of the box
[09:47] <voraistos> Skarr: i thought u were back to windows. use the windows partitionner. tell it to use a little bit of your hard drive. install windows, use the rest after to install ubuntu back.
[09:47] <jelly> Iam8up: he is going to run the installer again, so it's a nonissue.
[09:47] <Bird> kitche: Like Knoppix?
[09:47] <kitche> HOT: probably but it could deal with the patches it has
[09:48] <kitche> Bird yes
[09:48] <Bird> Kitche: Thank you.
[09:48] <HOT> kitche: *nod*
[09:48] <quintin> l
[09:48] <kalif> PopeOfWar: installation instrutions? for what?
[09:48] <PopeOfWar> kalif: It's integrated into my motherboard... which came inside my Dell XPS system... I've never SEEN the box! lmao
[09:48] <Skarr> OK, I went to the parition and ubuntu woudlnt let me delte or create any of the partitions
[09:48] <asmo674hurt> how to open iso file?
[09:48] <PopeOfWar> kalif: For the Linux drivers
[09:48] <jelly> Iam8up: sorry.  that part of the installer looked like gparted but I'm not positive that was really it.
[09:48] <Bird> Kitche: When using Do I simply place it in my computer then run it or must I restart computer have CD boot before hard drive?
[09:48] <t3nxt> so i have a P4 EM64T is better that i install the x86 version?
[09:48] <Skarr> WAIT NVM THAT LAST QUESTION
[09:48] <inimesekene> when's edgy gonna come?
[09:49] <kalif> PopeOfWar: modprope e1000
[09:49] <kitche> Bird: reboot
[09:49] <jbroome> inimesekene: october
[09:49] <Bird> Kitche: Thank you.
[09:49] <Skarr> It just wont let me boot from the windows disk
[09:49] <Skarr> Hers what I didi:
[09:49] <Skarr> Started computer
[09:49] <PopeOfWar> kalif: Is that a card? And is it cheap?
[09:49] <asmo674hurt> how to open iso file?
[09:49] <Iam8up> jelly - it accomplishes the task just fine - i still think gparted looks a lot better and is much easier to work with (mainly the ability to specify which cylinders to use
[09:49] <Personaltec> hi
[09:49] <justin_> How can I umount, a cdrom drive that keeps on telling me its "busy" -- nothing is using the drive, and regardless I want to eject it busy or not..?
[09:49] <Iam8up> <close parenthesis>
[09:49] <kitche> t3nxt: that's up to you really but I tend to go with x86 stuff since x86_64 right now is sketchy
[09:49] <Personaltec> speak spanish?
[09:49] <Skarr> logged into ubuntu, put in windows disk, restarted, and it jus started back on ubuntu
[09:49] <kalif> PopeOfWar: no - it's a command for loading the driver for your nic
[09:49] <Iam8up> justin_ - is the pwd in the cd?
[09:49] <Personaltec> i from spain, i need help for spanish people thanks
[09:49] <asmo674hurt> how to open *.iso file?
[09:50] <HOT> Skarr: you need to set your CDROM as the primary boot device in the bios
[09:50] <justin_> Iam8up: What do you mean the pwd?
[09:50] <Iam8up> justin_ - type pwd
[09:50] <PopeOfWar> kalif: oh, lol... you mean modprobe, right? You said modprope
[09:50] <kitche> asmo674hurt: mount it
[09:50] <Skarr> Hot: How would I do that
[09:50] <justin_> Iam8up: I have no idea what that is..
[09:50] <justin_> ok
[09:50] <kalif> PopeOfWar: ohh...
[09:50] <justin_> It says /home/~user
[09:50] <asmo674hurt> kitche, how?
[09:50] <PopeOfWar> kalif: Tahnk you, I will go try that, and I'll be back ina minute
[09:50] <voraistos> Skarr: go to bios settings make sure to boot from CD before HDD. then the CD will ask u if u wanna boot the CD. press spacebar to say yes.
[09:50] <gn0me> Hey everyone-- weird issue. I used to be able to select a window, then hit my hotkeys
[09:50] <Iam8up> justin_ - do you have any windows in that folder? do you have a terminal that is "cd" to that mount?
[09:50] <HOT> Skarr: typically you would press either F2 or Del after reboot and look in the bios options for boot options, then set primary boot device to CDROM
[09:50] <zad> ello again
[09:50] <Skarr> THANKS YOU GUYS
[09:51] <kitche> asmo674hurt: mount -o loop <filename>.iso <mount point>
[09:51] <Skarr> i will go try it
[09:51] <HOT> or something similar
[09:51] <Iam8up> asmo674hurt - i believe you may need -t iso9660 too
[09:51] <gn0me> I used to be able to select a window, then hit my hotkeys to do the "change to another workspace" thing, and it would bring the window with it.. Now it doesn't.
[09:51] <zad> how do you mount a hd using the kive dvd?
[09:51] <zad> live even
[09:51] <voraistos> Hot: i am not sure this guy is ready for linux.
[09:51] <zad> trying to fsck a drive :D
[09:51] <shmulik> I think something is drastically wrong with my taglib package... Amarok cannot scan my collection of music without completely locking up, often my whole system.  It can play the individual files fine, but scanning collection always fails.
[09:51] <Iam8up> zad - fdisk -l
[09:52] <HOT> voraistos: im sure we all started somewhere
[09:52] <justin_> Iam8up: Nope nothing is open but IRC, and my web browser which is not browsing anything on the disk
[09:52] <kitche> zad: you don;t mount a drive to fsck it
[09:52] <Iam8up> zad - mount -t <fstype> /dev/hda5 /mnt/pnt
[09:52] <zad> ?
[09:52] <kitche> Iam8up: umm that will fdisk i not what he wants
[09:52] <t3nxt> I have a P4 EM64T, what is better for me using the 64 bit or x86 version of ubuntu linux..(i tried the 64 bit version and everything goes fine but my keyboard and doesnt works)
[09:52] <Iam8up> kitche - no it won't, it will list the partitions on the device
[09:52] <nox-Hand> Hey
[09:52] <Renan_s2> t3nxt, the x86 version
[09:52] <voraistos> HOT: i started on an amstrad 8MHz at 3 years old. using DOS and stuff. never been that bad. i think he should go around windows DOS etc before to touch bash
[09:52] <kitche> zad: just fsck the drive you don't mount it to do that
[09:52] <nox-Hand> Is the ''Dell Wireless 1370 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (wireless adapter)'' supported for laptops in Ubuntu? Can it work?
[09:53] <Iam8up> nox-Hand - try the live cd
[09:53] <kitche> zad: unless you mean fdisk
[09:53] <stefg> !hardware
[09:53] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[09:53] <justin_> Iam8up: Ahh I found the problem "xkill" did not really kill xfmedia, it only removed the window --- the process was still on, so i "killall'd" "xfmedia" and now the device is free again.
[09:53] <nox-Hand> Iam8up: right
[09:53] <nox-Hand> stefg: cheers
[09:53] <Answer> nox-Hand, it will work fine.  it's just a matter of how much work that will take
[09:53] <Iam8up> justin_ - there ya go =)
[09:53] <justin_> So, for future reference -- "xkill" only kills the window, and not the process itself?
[09:53] <voraistos> HOT: having a powerfull system is about being able to use it. if u cant use a crappy system.
[09:55] <Skarr> OK I went into bios and I got to the CD ROM boot priority
[09:55] <chaos> was that grammatically sound?
[09:55] <zad> haha sussed it
[09:55] <HOT> wee vmware working again, thanks for feedback everyone
[09:55] <Skarr> and it says to change the value but i dont know how
[09:55] <zad> but whats root password on live dvd?
[09:55] <HOT> Skarr: typically either + or - OR enter will allow you to change values in a bios
[09:55] <kitche> zad: your using ubuntu's? if you are you have to use sudo
[09:55] <jrib> ubotu: tell zad about root
[09:57] <Skarr> yay i got it working
[09:57] <Skarr> Well its not finished but almost finished
[09:57] <zad> yep i knew that im tired and need my own system running again
[09:57] <Skarr> Who would buy commercial service when they have tons of nice people to help them
[09:57] <zad> i got super block errors
[09:58] <zad> telling me to use e2fsck now
[09:58] <zad> im confussed
[09:58] <zad> gah
[09:59] <kitche> zad: well e2fsck fixes superblocks where fsck doesn't it just fixes the blocks
[09:59] <jelly> kitche: wtf?!
[09:59] <MadRabbit> !install new fonts?
[09:59] <zad> sov
[09:59] <kalif> Skarr: your boss who is not hanging around here :)
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install new fonts? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <zad> so safe to use
[09:59] <asmo674hurt> shit! how to repair files wich i has, if i mount iso in exciting folder?
[09:59] <asmo674hurt> shit! how to repair files wich i has, if i mount iso in exciting folder?
[10:00] <kalif> asmo674hurt: umount /folder
[10:00] <jelly> kitche: fsck is a frontend for e2fsck and other fsck for different filesystems, where did you learn that junk about "e2fsck fixes superblocks where fsck doesn't it just fixes the blocks"?
[10:00] <asmo674hurt> kalif, thanx!
[10:00] <n_> HI!
[10:00] <seginus> re tout le monde
[10:01] <kitche> jelly: they do different things
[10:01] <nox-Hand> When booted the liveCD, and X doesnt work automaticly... go to tty1, and do WHAT?
[10:02] <Iam8up> startx
[10:02] <kitche> jelly: e2fsck - check a Linux ext2/ext3 file system filesystem consistency check and interactive repair so one is not a frontend to the other
[10:02] <jelly> kitche: yes. fsck calls e2fsck, then it does its job.
[10:03] <quintin> I'll call you...........*shakes fist*
[10:03] <jelly> kitche: well, that "fsck doesn't it just fixes the blocks", is pure nonsense.
[10:03] <zad> it aint doing anything
[10:04] <zad> just keeps telling me same block is broke
[10:04] <tyler-wylie> How do you change the ubuntu menu icon to something different?
[10:04] <jelly> kitche: really, read the fsck manual.
[10:04] <PopeOfWar> kalif: I entered, "modprobe e1000" and it returned, "FATAL: Error inserting e1000 (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/e1000/e1000.ko): Operation not permitted
[10:04] <kitche> jelly: well it doesn't well not for a ext2/ext3 filysystem that's what e2fsck is used for
[10:05] <Skarr> There is a command called fsck?
[10:05] <tyler-wylie> Skarr, yes
[10:05] <nickspoon> Skarr: yes.
[10:05] <Skarr> What were they thinking when they name it that?
[10:05] <kjm> !sources>kjm'
[10:05] <jelly> Skarr: fsck yeah
[10:05] <kalif> PopeOfWar: sudo
[10:05] <tyler-wylie> Skarr, are you the unbreakable? :p
[10:05] <kjm> !sources>kjm
[10:05] <Skarr> Indeed.
[10:05] <PopeOfWar> kalif: "sudo modprobe e1000"?
[10:05] <quintin> Skarr: ehm, filesystem check
[10:05] <nickspoon> Skarr: I assume FileSystemChecK :)
[10:05] <kalif> PopeOfWar: yes
[10:05] <PopeOfWar> DAMN
[10:05] <PopeOfWar> lmao
[10:05] <kitche> Skarr: it stands for filesystem check
[10:06] <kalif> Skarr: FileSystemChecK
[10:06] <tyler-wylie> How do you change the ubuntu menu icon to something different?
[10:06] <PopeOfWar> kalif: Okay, I will be back in a minute...
[10:06] <kaur> Using dapper and when the computer has previously come out from suspend it crashes when i try to reboot. Ideas?
[10:06] <morrolan> Hi, I'm having an issue with missing fonts in Wine - if I copy the windows fonts from my windows PC, where do I need to put them?
[10:06] <kalif> PopeOfWar: your minutes are rather long :)
[10:06] <jelly> kitche: from fsck(8): "In  actuality,  fsck  is simply a front-end for the various file system checkers (fsck.fstype) available under Linux".  Nothing about "only fixes blocks."
[10:07] <quintin> jelly: kitche: get a room
[10:07] <Hobbes`> isn't there a separate channel for PPC ?
[10:08] <madmax> synaptic is THE way to upgrade to edgy damn it
[10:08] <kitche> jelly: maybe you took what I said the wrong way but it's over now
[10:09] <AlexC_> Hey Hey =)
[10:09] <LokNessMobster> sup
[10:09] <AlexC_> Anyone know anything about install Unsuported Wireless cards on good ol' Ubuntu?
[10:10] <kitche> AlexC_: chipset of your card?
[10:10] <AlexC_> I've heard about ndiswrapper? or something like that
[10:10] <morrolan> AlexC_:  NDISWrapper
[10:10] <marseillai> hi
[10:10] <morrolan> Pain the backside to get working
[10:10] <AlexC_> kitche: let me find out - it's not me who has it, it's a friend
[10:10] <HOT> ok damn lame question but if i installed something that needed a kernel module, should i reboot to see if it worked?
[10:10] <shmulik> I think something is drastically wrong with my taglib package... Amarok cannot scan my collection of music without completely locking up, often my whole system.  It can play the individual files fine, but scanning collection always fails.
[10:10] <AlexC_> no harm in trying, HOT
[10:10] <marseillai> i've got a problem! dpkg can't configure my flashplugin-nonfree . Does any one know why?
[10:11] <LokNessMobster> what kind of card is it?
[10:11] <Skarr> My friend made a a linux comic
[10:11] <jelly> HOT: depends on the particular module.
[10:11] <Skarr> one of the jokes was about "fsck"
[10:11] <HOT> marseillai: cant say why, but i have the exact same problem
[10:11] <HOT> marseillai: dpkg: error processing flashplugin-nonfree (--configure):
[10:11] <HOT>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[10:11] <HOT> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:11] <HOT>  flashplugin-nonfree
[10:11] <HOT> Running prelink, please wait...
[10:11] <jrib> marseillai, HOT: do you have backports enabled?
[10:11] <HOT> gah sorry
[10:11] <AlexC_> LokNessMobster, kitche PCMCIA WL-311FA card from SparkLAN
[10:12] <marseillai> jrib: don't know will see
[10:12] <HOT> jrib: will check now
[10:12] <Skarr> Is Linux more for gamers, hackers/crackers, programmers, business, etc?
[10:12] <marseillai> jrib: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[10:12] <marseillai> so yes
[10:12] <jelly> Skarr: yes.
[10:12] <quintin> Skarr: it's just an operating system.  you can do whatever with it.
[10:12] <AlexC_> Skarr: Linux is for Humans =)
[10:12] <tyler-wylie> How do you change the ubuntu menu icon to something different?  I want to get that ugly brown red thing off my desktop :(
[10:12] <Neo8750> who | grep -i hotgirls | talk; cd ~; wine; talk; touch; unzip; touch; strip; gasp; mount; fsck; more; yes; fsck; more; yes; fsck; gasp; unmount; make clean; sleep;
[10:12] <quintin> Skarr: it's very popular for servers
[10:12] <FluxD> hello can anyone tell me how to install jut the KDE apps w/o KDE?
[10:13] <quintin> tyler-wylie: You'll use the ugly brown thing, and you'll like it!!!
[10:13] <Skarr> Oh no, its for humans?
[10:13] <tyler-wylie> quintin, :I(
[10:13] <Skarr> Too bad fido, go use windows </lamejoke>
[10:13] <AlexC_> Skarr: are you not Human? =)
[10:13] <jrib> marseillai: that's why, downgrade to the dapper version by doing: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree/dapper
[10:13] <kitche> AlexC_: I checked SparkLAN website and can't find that product
[10:13] <marseillai> jrib: there's a problem with backports ?
[10:13] <AlexC_> kitche: it is an old old card
[10:14] <jrib> marseillai: with that package, yes
[10:14] <HOT> jrib: thanks, good info
[10:14] <HOT> yup worked!
[10:14] <jrib> marseillai: you may want to comment backports, or pin the version (see !pinning)
[10:14] <jrib> HOT: np
[10:14] <FluxD> hello can anyone tell me how to install jut the KDE apps w/o KDE?
[10:15] <jrib> FluxD: sudo apt-get install name_of_kde_app
[10:15] <quintin> FluxD: ehm, just install the app you want
[10:15] <quintin> FluxD: required libs etc will be installed automatically as-needed
[10:15] <kitche> AlexC_: hmm don't think ndiswrapper will work with that chipset it;s Ralink
[10:15] <HOT> well uptime was good, but im gonna try a reboot, really need truecrypt..thanks!
[10:15] <AlexC_> kitche: ahh I see, is there any other way?
[10:15] <zad> think i know why it aint working it doesnt see my sata drives
[10:15] <quintin> reboots are for lamers
[10:15] <FluxD> jrib I want all the default apps installed by kubuntu-desktop w/ o the actual kde
[10:15] <marseillai> jrib: thanks! sadly adept can't freeze a package version for the moment!
[10:16] <tyler-wylie> How do you change the ubuntu menu icon to something different?  I want to get that ugly brown red thing off my desktop :( I wanna use a big foot instead of it
[10:16] <quintin> FluxD: if you want everything then just install KDE
[10:16] <teenprogrammer>  Hi all
[10:16] <quintin> FluxD: not like it's going to be that much more
[10:16] <jrib> FluxD: oh, I don't know of an easy way but maybe 'apt-cache depends kubuntu-desktop' can get you started
[10:16] <kitche> Alex_c: madwifi seems to work with it
[10:16] <Skarr> Is stendhal very popular?
[10:17] <FluxD> quintin jrib is there a list of default apps
[10:17] <teenprogrammer> anyone setup 3D Desktop?
[10:17] <quintin> FluxD: not to my knowledge.  Just install KDE
[10:17] <shmulik> How can I right-click if I have a computer with only one mouse button?  How do I enable Ctrl+click to be interpreted as a right-click?
[10:17] <FluxD> quintin u mean kubuntu-desktop?
[10:17] <kitche> !xgl > teenprogrammer
[10:18] <quintin> FluxD: yea sure wahtever :P
[10:18] <FluxD> lol
[10:18] <Skarr> teenprogrammer: I saw thaty video on youtube and it looked awesome! Too bad my machine couldnt run  it
[10:18] <FluxD> thx
[10:18] <teenprogrammer> kitche: Hi, i dunno exactly what i am doing O_O i fond this tutorial http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=1153
[10:18] <kitche> shmulik: you would have to edit the key settings
[10:18] <kitche> Skarr: it will probably run using aiglx
[10:18] <nox-Hand> How do I configure X manually in tty1 on liveCD?
[10:18] <FluxD> skarr has it worked on a card other than nvidia or ati?
[10:18] <PopeOfWar> kalif: Apparently, the driver installed... I got no error message, and I found the driver at the correct destination... but I still can't connect to the internet...
[10:18] <AlexC_> kitche: I'm not on Ubuntu atm, is madwifi in the resporities?
[10:18] <teenprogrammer> kitche: but its not working O_O
[10:18] <teenprogrammer> kitche: er, not as well as i would like
[10:18] <PopeOfWar> kalif: I restarted the computer and tried to connect, but Icouldn't
[10:18] <AlexC_> and, Newbie friendly to install?
[10:19] <Skarr> FluxD: Na, I'm just saying I have an old crappy 3D graphics card
[10:19] <shmulik> kitche: Where? System --> Preferences --> Keyboard shortcuts?
[10:19] <kalif> PopeOfWar: did you get an IP-address?
[10:19] <teenprogrammer> kitche:I try to use console to download it and itit says "Cannot find compz-manager"
[10:19] <kalif> hint: ifconfig
[10:19] <Skarr> !3ddesktop
[10:19] <ubotu> 3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-5.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 74 kB, installed size 448 kB
[10:19] <FluxD> skarr I have a sis card says its not supported has anyone got it working other than ati or nvidia?
[10:19] <kitche> AlexC_: yea it is not sure abotu friendly to install exactly it's semi friendly you can say
[10:19] <teenprogrammer> ubotu: when i follow this one tutorial, its like "Cannot find compiz-manager"
[10:19] <ubotu> when: minimalistic personal calendar. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.23-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 29 kB, installed size 124 kB
[10:19] <AlexC_> teenprogrammer: you need to add the XGL resproties
[10:19] <zad> anyone know how to use sata drives with live dvd?
[10:19] <Skarr> Anyway, I have an nvidia card and it is only 6800 so it would prolly run slow.
[10:19] <teenprogrammer> AlexC_:umm
[10:20] <kitche> FluxD: that should work with AIGLX it won't run on XGL though
[10:20] <Skarr> !ubotu
[10:20] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:20] <teenprogrammer> AlexC_: Where is that at?
[10:20] <PopeOfWar> kalif: I will be right back. I am going to connect my old computer to the internet, so I can run Ubuntu on this one and chat at the same time... be right back
[10:20] <neildarlow> i'm running a rt2570 USB NIC using ndiswapper and after some time the connection drops. doing an ifdown/ifup wlan0 restores operation. does this ring any bells and is there a fix?
[10:20] <FluxD> kitchie u sure I read up on it and it said it doesnt support one thing?
[10:20] <AlexC_> teenprogrammer: let me get a guide, are you running ATI/nVidia ?
[10:20] <teenprogrammer> ati
[10:20] <kitche> FluxD: AIGLX is another project that XGL is based off of
[10:21] <teenprogrammer> AlexC_:ati
[10:21] <AlexC_> teenprogrammer: cool cool,
[10:21] <dudanogueira> Hello! does anyone has the Intel GMA 900 or 950 running? I wann know if it runs xgl...
[10:21] <kitche> FluxD: sis is unknown for AIGLX but they should work
[10:21] <ericz> yesterday, my ubuntu automatic LAMP install was working perfect, no problems what-so-ever, today, i rebooted it without changing anything, and i boot back up, and i can't get it to connect to the 'net at ALL, i can't even get an IP address, rebooted several times, nothing... but i put in this live cd, "systemrescuecd" and ip automatically detected, no problems at all, perfect...
[10:21] <kitche> dudanogueira: you need to use AIGLX XGL is for ATI and Nvidia only
[10:22] <FluxD> kitchie thanks u have a good I can use?
[10:22] <AlexC_> teenprogrammer: http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=389
[10:22] <hobophobe> Is there any sensible reason why apt-cache search will turn up a package but apt-get install will not find it to install?
[10:22] <teenprogrammer> AlexC_:Thanks!!!! I will look into that
[10:22] <kitche> FluxD: well if you have xorg 7.1 installed you just have to enable aiglx support since that is part of X
[10:22] <AlexC_> teenprogrammer: no probs =)
[10:22] <FluxD> kitchie does it also work on an ati radeon 9200 ?
[10:23] <jrib> hobophobe: what package?
[10:23] <dudanogueira> kitche, so it should work with AIXGL, right? Thank you a lot! :)
[10:23] <hobophobe> linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386
[10:23] <kitche> FluxD: yes not sure about the binary drivers though
[10:23] <jrib> !info linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386
[10:23] <jrib> hmm
[10:23] <FluxD> kitchie after getting aigxl support what should I do?
[10:24] <Skarr> Is 3D desktop practical?
[10:24] <AlexC_> Skarr: yeah!
[10:24] <AlexC_> I love it =)
[10:24] <Skarr> Sweet
[10:24] <jrib> !test
[10:24] <ubotu> Failed.
[10:24] <kitche> FluxD: hang on a sec I m looking at the wiki for it right now :P
[10:24] <Skarr> oh, I forgot, you need a tablet computer to use it
[10:24] <kitche> !aiglx
[10:24] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[10:24] <Skarr> !test
[10:24] <FluxD> kitchie thanks again :)
[10:24] <Skarr> !test
[10:24] <Skarr> darn
[10:24] <AlexC_> it doesn't feel right that my Windows don't wobble when I'm not on Ubuntu
[10:24] <bw_hb> ubotu, ati > me
[10:25] <jrib> hobophobe: did you apt-get update?  Should be available
[10:25] <FluxD> how can I edit the grub bootloader for some reason I see copies of the original ones
[10:25] <PopeOfWar> BRB
[10:26] <Shadow_mil> is there a way I can restore all my boot settings (services that start) to what they were when the system was installed?
[10:26] <FluxD> ubotu, ati > me
[10:26] <bw_hb> ubotu, ati > bw_hb
[10:26] <FluxD> ubotu, ati > flux
[10:26] <MadRabbit> how do I install new fonts?
[10:26] <hobophobe> jrib, they got it, apparently. Thanks
[10:26] <shmulik> How can I right-click if I have a computer with only one mouse button?  How do I enable Ctrl+click to be interpreted as a right-click?
[10:26] <FluxD> ubotu, ati > fluxd
[10:26] <quintin> shmulik: you'll probably have to edit your X config file.  search the web
[10:26] <kash> hi
[10:27] <kitche> FluxD: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_AIGLX I know it's gentoo-wiki but just do what it says for xorg.conf
[10:27] <Skarr> !gentoo
[10:27] <ubotu> Other Linux distributions include; .deb-based: Debian, Mepis; RPM-based: RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva; Source-based: Gentoo, Slackware
[10:27] <teenprogrammer> AlexC_: Hi again, it says "E: Package cgwd has no installation candidate" O_O
[10:27] <Skarr> What is the most popular distro?
[10:27] <FluxD> ubuntu
[10:27] <kitche> teenprogrammer: there isn't a package for cgwd probably
[10:27] <eyequeue> which app is it that tells me upon gnome login that i have 99% of /static used, i want to disable that
[10:27] <AlexC_> teenprogrammer: Hum, never had that before - if you join #ubuntu-xgl they will know more
[10:27] <Skarr> FreeBSD isn't linux right?
[10:27] <FluxD> kitchie how do I enable aiglx?
[10:28] <FluxD> nope skarr
[10:28] <kitche> FluxD: Section "ServerLayout"
[10:28] <kitche> Option "AIGLX" "true"
[10:28] <kitche> EndSection
[10:28] <kitche> FluxD: add that to your xorg.conf
[10:28] <teenprogrammer> AlexC_: Thanks again!!!!!!! I will do that
[10:28] <Shadow_mil> is there a way I can restore all my boot settings (services that start) to what they were when the system was installed?
[10:28] <Skarr> !fun
[10:28] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[10:28] <FluxD> tyvm kitchie
[10:28] <sharky-> hello
[10:29] <kitche> FluxD: you might have to do other stuff but that's how you enable aiglx :)
[10:29] <Skarr> What IRC clients are everyone using? I use chatzilla
[10:29] <FluxD> xchat
[10:29] <sharky-> Skarr, xchat
[10:29] <Shadow_mil> irssi
[10:29] <kitche> Skarr: it's more preference really
[10:29] <eyequeue> irssi
[10:29] <FluxD> ok kitchie I am real noob so we will see how this goes
[10:30] <Blissex> Shadowpillar: there are so many...
[10:30] <eyequeue> Shadow_mil, write one
[10:30] <Skarr> When I started ubuntu for the first time I was amazed at how fast it ran
[10:30] <Shadow_mil> Shadowpillar: write one
[10:30] <gpro> www.pida.com.br
[10:30] <HOT> Shadowpillar: I use gaim, is pretty cool
[10:30] <rixxon> Shadowpillar: just use irssi ;)
[10:30] <Shadowpillar> ha, gaim as an irc client lol
[10:30] <FluxD> gaim looks ugly really...
[10:30] <kitche> Shadowpillar there is xchat is one of the better clients gui wise
[10:30] <Skarr> The initial startup is a little long, but then it runs fast
[10:30] <Shadow_mil> xchat is good...
[10:30] <Shadowpillar> xchat's nice and all, I just hate when certain features get hidden or disabled each release
[10:31] <sharky-> love the xchat
[10:31] <Skarr> Why can't they make a linux MSN clone
[10:31] <Shadowpillar> and xchat-gnome is overly simplistic
[10:31] <Shadow_mil> is there a way I can restore all my boot settings (services that start) to what they were when the system was installed?
[10:31] <Shadowpillar> Skarr: amsn
[10:31] <rixxon> feature-wise xchat can't compete with irssi
[10:31] <kitche> Skarr: they did it's called amsn
[10:31] <Skarr> Sweet
[10:31] <keegan_> xchat-gnome is lame..
[10:31] <Shadowpillar> rixxon: yeah
[10:31] <Skarr> I probabley wont use it though,
[10:31] <eyequeue> Skarr, are you in ubuntu?
[10:31] <Skarr> Im about to be
[10:31] <sharky-> kitche, like amule?
[10:31] <FluxD> !xorg.conf > fluxd
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorg.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <Skarr> Im on my windows computer
[10:31] <Shadowpillar> If I were gonna make a GUI based irc client, I'd build one using irssi' core
[10:31] <eyequeue> Skarr, apt-cache search msn, or the like
[10:31] <kitche> FluxD: it's in /etc/xorg.conf
[10:32] <FluxD> ah ty
[10:32] <kitche> FluxD: sorry it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:32] <Skarr> I thinkk I'll just use gaim, the onyl thing I like about MSN was MSN Plus!
[10:32] <Shadowpillar> xchat is supposedly built off irssi's core, if it has, it's been horribly neutered
[10:32] <FluxD> kk
[10:32] <eyequeue> Shadow_mil, that was cras' original intent
[10:32] <rixxon> Shadowpillar: please do :p
[10:32] <nox-Hand> Where is the mouse automaticly regularly in Ubuntu?
[10:32] <eyequeue> Shadowpillar, rather
[10:32] <FluxD> miranda for windows looks nice
[10:32] <Sp4rKy> please, if i want remove all files in a rep excepted those who have .html, how can i do ?
[10:32] <Skarr> FLuxD: Miranda sucks, trust me
[10:32] <Skarr> FluxD: at least on windows
[10:33] <rixxon> Shadowpillar: i'd like to see a ruby scripting module for irssi though
[10:33] <eyequeue> Shadowpillar, then he abandoned gui :)  i'm glad :)
[10:33] <Shadowpillar> So how long has everyone in here been using linux?
[10:33] <FluxD> skarr atleast it has a gui I hope they make one for linux
[10:33] <Roger__> "The desktop CD allows you to try Ubuntu without changing your computer at all" <-- will someone please tell me what this means exactly? I'm running windows right now with a ton of data i figured I was going to have to backup / partition before installing linux
[10:33] <FluxD> 1 year
[10:33] <manny00> hey does anyone know how t get root in gui mode?
[10:33] <eyequeue> Roger__, it runs from the cd only, which means very slowly
[10:33] <rixxon> manny00: gksudo
[10:33] <manny00> because i dual boot and i want to access my windows partition and when i set it up it says access denied
[10:33] <eyequeue> manny00, you don't, watch the bot
[10:33] <rixxon> manny00: or do you want to login as root?
[10:33] <eyequeue> !root > manny00
[10:33] <Enselic> How do I kill old links created with ln?
[10:33] <sharky-> Roger__, it means that ubuntu loads from the CD rather than installing to your disk and loading from there
[10:34] <Answer> Enselic, rm the links like a file
[10:34] <eyequeue> Enselic, rm
[10:34] <manny00> either way
[10:34] <sharky-> Roger__, no changes are made to your secondary storage
[10:34] <Shadowpillar> Roger__: live cd, runs directly off CD as if it were running off a HDD, unlike a HDD, you cant write changes.
[10:34] <eyequeue> manny00, read what the bot told you please
[10:34] <manny00> ok
[10:34] <sharky-> So if you don't like it for some reason just take the CD out and you're back to your original OS
[10:34] <FluxD> wait root in gui mode I thought u had to use sudo?
[10:34] <Skarr> Roger: But you will like it
[10:34] <Roger__> ok, do people actually USE that in their everyday life? Or is it more of a DEMO? Can I write files to my existing HDD?
[10:35] <eyequeue> manny00, and for gui apps, it's gksudo ratehr than sudo, if that got omitted :)
[10:35] <rixxon> FluxD: default state, yes.
[10:35] <ladydoor> FluxD: you can do sudo -i
[10:35] <hobophobe> FluxD, you can use gksudo or gksu
[10:35] <Skarr> Roger:  Just be careful while you install or you will delete windows like I did!
[10:35] <eyequeue> FluxD, no tha'ts bad, use gksudo for gui
[10:35] <ladydoor> Roger__: yes they do, though it is really a demo. and you can write to your existing hdd
[10:35] <sharky-> Roger__, most don't use it for everyday life just for demo and to recovery stuff and yes you can write to the HDD
[10:35] <rixxon> Skarr: heh
[10:35] <ladydoor> Roger__: you just need to mount it
[10:35] <Skarr> rixxon: heheh
[10:36] <Enselic> eyequeue: is there an easy way to locate where the link is?
[10:36] <Roger__> hmmm... what if I installed perl modules that had 'linuxisms' in them? could they be used in this situation?
[10:36] <sharky-> Roger__, ubuntu will automatically mount your HDD for reading only so you'll need to manually unmount and remount to write to it
[10:36] <kalif> Skarr: you're on the right track then :)
[10:36] <FluxD> oh ok ty
[10:37] <eyequeue> Enselic, i'm not sure i understand.  you have some link you want to get rid of but don't know where it is?  how do you know you have it?
[10:37] <Shadow_mil> is there a way I can restore all my boot settings (services that start) to what they were when the system was installed?
[10:37] <Skarr> kalif: Well it's a family computers ^.^;
[10:37] <manny00> when i type gksudo it will enable to be root in gui for 15mins as opposed to just terminal
[10:37] <eyequeue> Shadow_mil, there is no "reset to defaults", whatever you changed is changed until you change it back
[10:37] <FluxD> its amazing I dont have any drivers for my touchpad and it works fine in ubuntu
[10:38] <kalif> Skarr: auch
[10:38] <Enselic> eyequeue: When I try to run 'anjuta' it says can not find '/usr/bin/anjuta'   and when I cd /usr/local/bin (the right place for anjuta) and do ln -s anjuta anjuta, it says 'anjuta already exists'
[10:38] <axisys> how to convert jpg to smaller image format ? png? it is 2.9M
[10:38] <eyequeue> manny00, no, it will enable that app to be in root, and any others without the password, but it has no timelimit on how long each runs
[10:38] <shmulik> How can I right-click if I have a computer with only one mouse button?  How do I enable Ctrl+click to be interpreted as a right-click?
[10:38] <Infern0o> !sd
[10:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:38] <sharky-> axisys, gimp
[10:38] <Infern0o> T.T
[10:38] <shmulik> I think something is drastically wrong with my taglib package... Amarok cannot scan my collection of music without completely locking up, often my whole system.  It can play the individual files fine, but scanning collection always fails.
[10:38] <Corneliu1> hi ! i installed the driver for my HP LaserJet 1018, i cannot seem to get it started, i also removed once from /usr/share/ppd/custom and reinstalled, still wont print... anybody an idea??  ( driver: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_1018 )
[10:38] <kalif> Skarr: I deleted my girlfriends assignment from the university that way
[10:38] <jadacyrus> Okay, i've got edgy installed on my new laptop, however it has a Intel Core Duo Processor, should I switch rto the linux-686-smp kernel or keep the linux-image-generic ?
[10:38] <axisys> i have gimp.. can i make it smaller with gimp?
[10:38] <kalif> but that's 10 years ago :)
[10:38] <axisys> sharky-: what format should i save it? png?
[10:39] <Roger__> I'm also confused because my only other download option was the Server CD which "will not install a graphical user interface." So my choice was between Desktop CD (with GUI && keep windows) OR Server CD (No GUI, No Windows)
[10:39] <manny00> hrm
[10:39] <kitche> shmulik: you have cups set up correctly?
[10:39] <axisys> sharky-: i just tried to save it in png and it become 6.5M
[10:39] <manny00> ok so what if just wnt to access a directory
[10:39] <Enselic> axisys: how big is the file?
[10:39] <shmulik> kitche: cups?  What, for printing?
[10:39] <Infern0o> Question: I have ubuntu installed on my laptop with a build in sd card reader (texas instruments), how do i get it to work?
[10:39] <axisys> Enselic: 2.5M
[10:39] <sharky-> axisys, yes you can make it smaller and even change the quality to get a smaller size
[10:39] <kitche> shmulik: yes cups is used to print
[10:39] <Enselic> axisys: in pixel size I mean
[10:39] <shmulik> I don't have a printing question.
[10:39] <manny00> just type gksudo and it will allow me to be root
[10:39] <Enselic> axisys: width and height
[10:39] <eyequeue> Enselic, okay, syntax error :)  but why isn't /usr/local/bin/ in your path?  a user should *not* be messing in /usr/bin/ that is the exclusive domain of the package management system
[10:39] <Shadow_mil> eyequeue: is there a way to see what the defaults were at installed, were they logged?
[10:40] <manny00> im about to boot into ubuntu and try this out
[10:40] <manny00> brb
[10:40] <eyequeue> Shadow_mil, no
[10:40] <ladydoor> so this is kind of a weird question, but does anyone know how to turn on sudo's insults feature? Yes, i know how to use visudo--my question is what within the file I need to edit
[10:40] <Corneliu1> i do
[10:40] <shmulik> Amarok cannot scan my music because something is wrong with the libraries that handle metadata (tag) reading.
[10:40] <Jowi> axisys: saving jpg at 90% instead of 100% make a huge different in filesize (the loss of quality is mostly acceptable for photos)
[10:40] <sharky-> axisys, it really depends on the image some formats do better with particular images
[10:40] <axisys> Enselic: 2592 x 1944
[10:40] <Shadow_mil> eyequeue: say I deleted init.d rc?.d
[10:40] <Shadow_mil> eyequeue: what should I do?
[10:40] <eyequeue> Enselic, i can tell you how to do the symlink, but i want to be sure you know it's unwise
[10:40] <axisys> Jowi: save it same jpg format ?
[10:40] <Skarr> kalif: I deleted half of my sisters docs
[10:40] <Skarr> seeya
[10:40] <Skarr> g2g
[10:40] <kalif> :(
[10:40] <Enselic> axisys: open in it GIMP, Image -> Resize, save as .jpg with 85 in compression
[10:41] <axisys> it is a system 420R
[10:41] <axisys> the pic is
[10:41] <eyequeue> Shadow_mil, man update-rc.d, you'll want to do "defaults" for many of the apps
[10:41] <Jowi> axisys: yes. try it and see if the difference is big enough
[10:41] <axisys> Enselic: ok let me try
[10:41] <HOT> shmulik: have you tried reinstalling?
[10:41] <shmulik> HOT: I was considering it.
[10:41] <Shadow_mil> k
[10:41] <Infern0o> i can't get the sd card reader on my laptop to work, any suggestions? :)-
[10:41] <Enselic> eyequeue: /usr/local/bin is in my path, but I think the old anjuta link is somewhere as well
[10:41] <axisys> Enselic: i dont see resize option under image
[10:41] <HOT> shmulik: might be a dependancy issue, worth a shot right?
[10:41] <eyequeue> Enselic, ln -s /original/file/with/path /place/you/want/the/symlink
[10:42] <eyequeue> Enselic, first though, run this, as non-root
[10:42] <FluxD> ok kitchie what tutorial should i follo after getting aiglx done?
[10:42] <eyequeue> Enselic, "which anjuta" and tell me what the output is please
[10:42] <kitche> FluxD: well do you mean compiz and such
[10:42] <FluxD> yea
[10:42] <rlandis> hello
[10:42] <rlandis> how is everyone today
[10:43] <graveson> i am having major issues with my ATI piece of @#$@#$@#$  to work with ubuntu. I have finally given up and intend purchasing an Nvidia 3d graphics card . Can anyone inform me as to which model card works well with ubuntu
[10:43] <Enselic> axisys: Image -> Scale Image
[10:43] <eyequeue> !compiz
[10:43] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:43] <kitche> FluxD: just follow the ubuntu's tutorial to get compiz to work
[10:43] <rixxon> can i make scrolling desktop switch workspace in gnome?
[10:43] <eyequeue> FluxD, ^
[10:43] <rixxon> fluxbox style
[10:43] <axisys> Enselic: got it, scale image was the option
[10:43] <kitche> FluxD: since it works with aiglx also
[10:43] <Enselic> axisys: Please put *some* effort in searching yourself :)
[10:43] <FluxD> yes eyequeue? oh ok kitchie
[10:43] <eyequeue> !compiz > FluxD
[10:43] <HOT> so, whats the difference between xgl and aiglx? is it worth "upgrading" ?
[10:44] <eyequeue> HOT, eye candy and breakage
[10:44] <rlandis> hi there bsdfox
[10:44] <HOT> heh
[10:44] <kitche> JOT: one is direct rendering and the other is indirect
[10:44] <kitche> Hot*
[10:44] <axisys> Enselic: sorry dude
[10:44] <kitche> eyequeue: aiglx doesn't break since it's part of X
[10:44] <HOT> well i have xgl and compiz running nicely on a little pavillion zd8000, probly not worth stepping up right?
[10:45] <Enselic> eyequeue: Hmm, this is strange, 'which anjuta' gives '/usr/local/bin' while 'anjuta' gives 'bash: /usr/bin/anjuta: No such file or directory'
[10:45] <eyequeue> kitche, the edgy channel seems to disagree, but i don't run it, so no breakage here, heh
[10:45] <kitche> HOT: they do the same thing but aiglx is Fedora's and Xorg's
[10:45] <HOT> right so no actual performance gain right?
[10:45] <axisys> Enselic: from 2.9 M to 530K wow!! dont see much difference in look.. awesome
[10:45] <eyequeue> Enselic, i think you may have had something in /usr/bin at login, let's see if it is gone, then i can fix tha for you
[10:45] <kitche> eyequeue: well then they don't run it right since aiglx is more stable then XGL is sicne it's stable and not alpha
[10:45] <[BTF] Chm0d> when i try to make && make install using sudo I still get this error cannot create directory `/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/ivtv': Permission denied any answers?
[10:46] <eyequeue> Enselic, ls /usr/bin/anjuta, see if it sees anything
[10:46] <Infern0o> Can anybody help me with getting my build in sd card reader to work?
[10:46] <eyequeue> kitche, certainlt possible, since it IS edgy :)
[10:46] <fdoving> [BTF] Chm0d: you need to run 'make install' with root privileges,  prepend sudo.
[10:46] <kitche> eyequeue: I was a tester for it on SourceMage to see if I could get compiz to run on aiglx
[10:46] <ladydoor> [BTF] Chm0d: are you doing them as separate commands? you don't have to do make as sudo, and after the && you need to enter sudo again. or you can do make, wait until it's done, and *then* do sudo make install.
[10:46] <eyequeue> Enselic, if there is nothing there now, try logging out and back in, that should clear the error
[10:46] <phizzy> hello
[10:46] <Enselic> axisys: you can try harder compression, check 'preview' when you save as jpg, that way you can see the "pain limit" for compression
[10:47] <FluxD> !lspci > fluxd
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lspci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <rlandis> hi james
[10:47] <ladydoor> FluxD: you need to install pciutils
[10:48] <phizzy> this chan has a ton of people
[10:48] <phizzy> wow
[10:48] <ladydoor> !pciutils > FluxD
[10:48] <[BTF] Chm0d> thx
[10:48] <zaggynl> What's a nice java editor/compiler?
[10:48] <zaggynl> aka IDE
[10:48] <james296> is it possible to make programs run under Wine using the same theme as the default Human theme, and is it possible to prevent it from changing my cursor scheme?
[10:48] <rlandis> sure does phizzy
[10:48] <Enselic> eyequeue: it's nothing there, I try to login and out
[10:48] <HOT> i saw a video of parallels(sp?) running some games under OSX, anyone tried to get that result on ubuntu?
[10:49] <ladydoor> james296: wine is a windows emulator--so if you can find a gtk emulator for windows, then yes you can
[10:49] <james296> so how can I do that?
[10:49] <txx2> Guys, I have some bad news.. I done a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and now my ubuntu won't log on. It does a weird crash image and then logs back out straight after.
[10:49] <kitche> james296: install GTK for windows
[10:50] <james296> but I dont have Windows
[10:50] <ladydoor> james296: kitche means install it in wine
[10:50] <ladydoor> kitche: (correct me if i'm wrong)
[10:50] <Enselic> eyequeue: it works now, thank you very much for you help :)
[10:50] <kitche> ladydoor: nope your right not sure if it will do what he wants though
[10:50] <eyequeue> Enselic, glad that fixed it :)  np
[10:51] <ladydoor> kitche: well...hopefully.
[10:51] <james296> gtk2-engines-redmond95
[10:51] <james296> thats what I have
[10:51] <sangeli> what about firefox plugins? How to install them all?
[10:51] <ladydoor> sangeli: *all* of them???
[10:52] <eyequeue> sangeli, there is a page on their site, go thre through the extensions subment
[10:52] <eyequeue> sangeli, there is a page on their site, go thre through the extensions submenU
[10:52] <morrolan> help:  no fonts when running a program under wine - have copied Windows fonts to c_drive/windows/fonts but still no luck
[10:52] <HOT> morrolan: no fonts at all?
[10:52] <eyequeue> and maybe expect firefox to take 45 minutes to load ;-)
[10:52] <PopeOfWar> kalif: Finally, I got my internet to work on my old computer, lol... now to wrok on the Ubuntu machine
[10:53] <morrolan> i get a font in the window border, but nothing within the program
[10:53] <morrolan> i'll paste-bin it, hang on
[10:53] <webhed> I want to be able to save my OpenOffice documents directly to a CD-RW without opening GnomeBaker or the burning tool everytime I hit Save in OpenOffice. Is that possible?
[10:53] <PopeOfWar> kalif: How would I go about configuring my now-installed ethernet drivers?
[10:53] <Enselic> webhed: Why a CD specifically?
[10:54] <nox-Hand> which option in xorgconfig is VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. Mobile Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[10:54] <nox-Hand> ?
[10:54] <PopeOfWar> kalif: Or, upposed;y-installed, lol
[10:54] <james296> so how can I make Wine use the HumN THEME INSTEAD OF THE CRAPPY wINDOWS95 THEME?
[10:54] <PopeOfWar> supposedly*
[10:54] <ladydoor> !shout
[10:54] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:54] <webhed> I want to be able to take the CD-RW back and forth to friends houses and work and just keep saving to the same disc. Is that possible?
[10:54] <james296> sory I hit caps lock
[10:54] <james296> my bad
[10:54] <HOT> webhed: have you considered a USB flash drive?
[10:54] <ladydoor> webhed: maybe get a usb stick?
[10:54] <neildarlow> webhed: i can only think of using packet-writing. not sure of machine-to-machine interoperability though.
[10:54] <HOT> heh zing
[10:54] <kalif> PopeOfWar: do you have a dhcp-server?
[10:55] <webhed> HOT: Thats an idea, but I dont have one now, but I DO have a cd and dvd burner.
[10:55] <morrolan> HOT: as I said, I get a font in the window border, but not within the program
[10:55] <PopeOfWar> kalif: Ummm... I'm not sure... where would I find that out?
[10:55] <asidjazz> which package has like general development stuff like stdio.h ?
[10:55] <eyequeue> webhed, if you are running from a livedvd, you won't be able to remove that dvd from the burner, to write to a cdrw
[10:56] <webhed> no I have Ubuntu installed etc
[10:56] <kalif> PopeOfWar: how did you get an IP-address on the old computer?
[10:56] <PopeOfWar> kalif: I was automatically assigned one...
[10:56] <HOT> morrolan: do you mean the fonts you have installed are not visible in the font list, or you cant actually see any fonts within the window itself?
[10:56] <green_earz> webhed: with the cd-rw after you have burn the data to disk you can just reformat it agian. to clear it of all its data
[10:56] <webhed> I just want to be able to save my docs directly onto a cdrw
[10:57] <kalif> PopeOfWar: then you have a dhcp server
[10:57] <webhed> ok so I can't keep saving over it as if it was a floppy or something
[10:57] <PopeOfWar> kalif: Ok, good, lol
[10:57] <kalif> PopeOfWar: on the new machine try "sudo dhclient eth0"
[10:57] <eyequeue> webhed, backing up to cd is very possible, but just not while running a livedvd :)
[10:57] <Ronald> Anyone know how i could get an old ISA Sound card working?
[10:57] <morrolan> I can't see any fonts within the window itself - I just get blank buttons
[10:57] <webhed> I never said I was running livedvd
[10:57] <PopeOfWar> kalif: Would that require an internet connection?
[10:58] <morrolan> HOT: I can't see any fonts within the window itself - I just get blank buttons
[10:58] <webhed> I am running ubuntu off hard drive
[10:58] <webhed> its installed
[10:58] <kalif> PopeOfWar: it asks for an IP-address
[10:58] <webhed> I only referred to dvd earlier to say I have both a dvd and cd burner physically in the box
[10:58] <HOT> morrolan: you running compiz? what is your windows manager?
[10:58] <kalif> PopeOfWar: so you have to have a connection to somewhere
[10:58] <PopeOfWar> I have no router, I connected this PC to the internet, and now I only have to switch between them... so I don't have to constantly reboot my Linux/Win computer.
[10:58] <webhed> I just want to keep saving docs to a cdrw
[10:58] <Jan_111> I changed my disk with "Norton Partition Magic". Before: |NTFS(Primary)| Extended[unused space| reiserfs(mount: /usr)] | ext3(mount: /)| swap|. I just  decreased the NTFS-partition and increased the unused space in the extended partition. But now it tells me while booting, that the superblock of /hda5(/usr) could not be found. How can ic restore or repair this?
[10:58] <neildarlow> webhed: if you use packet-writing, your CD-RW behaves just like a regular filesystem.
[10:58] <green_earz> webhed: yes just like a floppy but you need to reformat with burning program example k3b
[10:58] <PopeOfWar> kalif: Ok, I will be right back, then
[10:59] <webhed> ok I have gnomebaker - will that work green-earz
[10:59] <Ronald> Anyone know how i could get an old ISA Sound card working?
[10:59] <eyequeue> webhed, i got confused when you were talking about the livedvd at friends houses and things, clear now though :)
[10:59] <erUSUL> webhed: i'm afraid that you won'n be able to do that without much effort. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PacketCD
[10:59] <keegan_> I installed XGL/Compiz on my computer yesterday,  I've always had checkgmail running up in my upper corner.  Everytime I get an email and I click on the delete option, it doesn't do anything.  If I switch over to Metacity I can click on it and delete it.  Anyone know way to fix this so I can use checkgmail while running Compiz
[10:59] <graveson> i am having major issues with my ATI piece of @#$@#$@#$  to work with ubuntu. I have finally given up and intend purchasing an Nvidia 3d graphics card . Can anyone inform me as to which model card works well with ubuntu
[10:59] <keegan_> I believe all Nvidia cards work with linux
[10:59] <eyequeue> keegan_, #ubuntu-xgl
[10:59] <keegan_> Just gotta install the drivers
[11:00] <HOT> keegan_: you need to exclude the app from using compiz, it cant be done, let me see if i can remember
[11:00] <eyequeue> HOT, wrong channel though :)
[11:00] <webhed> ok it turns out I found an old usb drive I thought I lost - if its not easy and convenient to just save to cdrw I guess I'll just use the usb drive
[11:00] <HOT> yea fair enough
[11:00] <SlackRat> ok i dist-upgraded to 6.06.1 and its broken the gdm greeter?
[11:00] <HOT> webhed: good idea fella
[11:01] <Jan_111> I changed my disk with "Norton Partition Magic". Before: |NTFS(Primary)| Extended[unused space| reiserfs(mount: /usr)] | ext3(mount: /)| swap|. I just  decreased the NTFS-partition and increased the unused space in the extended partition. But now it tells me while booting, that the superblock of /hda5(/usr) could not be found. How can ic restore or repair this? I use an up-to-date Ubuntu6.06
[11:01] <zjohnson> looking for help with gnome screensaver, libnss-mysql-bg, and maybe pam
[11:02] <SlackRat> is there a fix to restore the gdm greeter?
[11:02] <HOT> Jan_111: if i recall from a simalar situation with partion magic you cant....easily
[11:02] <jason_> hi
[11:02] <zjohnson> have situation where users with local passwd/shadow entires can unlock screensaver, but nss-mysql users cannot
[11:02] <SlackRat> and kill that error message
[11:02] <ladydoor> so this is kind of a weird question, but does anyone know how to turn on sudo's insults feature? Yes, i know how to use visudo--my question is what within the file I need to edit
[11:02] <HOT> Jan_111: i had to use a livecd and "repair" the install over the top
 I was not able to find instructions. Could you please redirect me there?
[11:02] <mcarolan>  hey jason_
[11:02] <sangeli> ladydoor>yes all of them if possible.
[11:02] <jason_> i just finished doing my first install :d
[11:02] <eyequeue> sangeli, sure, let me fire up firefox ;-)
[11:03] <THX-1138> Jan_11 - HOT - Was there a problem with data not being moved?
[11:03] <ladydoor> sangeli: all of what if possible?
[11:03] <Ronald> **Anyone know how i could get an old ISA Sound card working? -Please reply is a RON: befor your post so i knwo it's to me :P **
[11:03] <HOT> THX-1138: in my instance the file system was alright but grub just couldnt deal with it
[11:04] <sangeli> ladydoor, of what is listed at https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/plugins/
[11:04] <ladydoor> SlackRat: did you manually remove it?
[11:04] <Jan_111> Partition Magic told no error or problem.
[11:04] <kitche> Ronald: hmm I m trying to remember if 2.6 still has ISA support
[11:04] <THX-1138> I need help with the deborphan command. Can someone show me an example command?
[11:04] <eyequeue> sangeli, tools > extensions > get more extensions, but the site is addons.mozilla.org
[11:04] <HOT> Jan_111: yea same for me at the time, reported operation succesfull
[11:04] <ladydoor> sangeli: oh! right. i forgot you asked that whenever. i thought it was a nonsequiter in response to my question.
[11:04] <kitche> Ronald: have you tried unmuting the sound?
[11:04] <HOT> Jan_111: still had to use livecd to get running again
[11:05] <eyequeue> sangeli, up at the top, yu will see you are in the extensions tab of the page, plugins is right next to it
[11:05] <ladydoor> sangeli: you should probably install this one that takes away the wait time before allowing you to install...
[11:05] <PopeOfWar> kalif: It returned "SIOCSIFADDR: No such device / eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such Device / eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device" I put slashes ("/") indicating a new line...
[11:05] <THX-1138> HOT - Would the penguin sleuth kit be helpful or is it simpler than that?
[11:05] <Ronald> no
[11:06] <kalif> PopeOfWar: is your e1000 module still loaded?
[11:06] <kalif> hint: lsmod
[11:06] <PopeOfWar> kalif: Let me check...
[11:06] <THX-1138> man deborphan and an online example didn't make anything clearer for me.
[11:06] <sangeli> ladydoor, eyequeue but installing plugins is not just clicking on a link. i assume I have to install them as packages. Wrong perhaps?
[11:06] <Jan_111> there is no chance of restore it without losing whole /usr?
[11:06] <HOT> Jan_111: if i recall i did 1: got a shell with root then ran ckfs just to be sure, then did a live install over the top, fixed it in about 20 mins as it didnt actually install many files, im sure there is a better way to do this, but thats my fix :)
[11:06] <ladydoor> sangeli: yeah, wrong. you do just click on a link, actually. lol
[11:06] <kalif> PopeOfWar: try ifconfig
[11:07] <kalif> do you have anything besides lo0?
[11:07] <PopeOfWar> kalif: Yes, they are... will ifconfig require an internet connection?
[11:07] <THX-1138> HOT - nice tip.
[11:07] <eyequeue> sangeli, they all seem to have a "documentation" link at the bottom, i imagine installation si documented there
[11:07] <Jan_111> will I lose data in /home with your solution?
[11:08] <edju> I can mount and read a CD or DVD, but cannot mount, read or boot off of a cd-r, no matter where created or at what speed.  Could some kind soul please refer to http://rafb.net/paste/results/Ll9BOI44.html and see if he/she finds any clues?  From an attempt to mount a knoppix disc.  Thanks.
[11:08] <HOT> Jan_111: cannot make promises but i didnt lose anything apart from grub lst
[11:08] <kitche> PopeOfWar: ifconfig doesn't require a connection it just won't give that device an ip
[11:08] <kalif> PopeOfWar: what do have besides lo0?
[11:08] <PopeOfWar> kitche: Thank you
[11:08] <PopeOfWar> ifconfig
[11:08] <PopeOfWar> oops, lol, wrong keyboard
[11:08] <Jan_111> ok, i try it with a livecd, thank you....
[11:08] <Ronald> No o.o
[11:08] <runa> hey :) how do I do to "erase" a dvd+rw? when formating it with k3b it says 'formatting is not needed for dvd rw and disrecommended'
[11:09] <Ronald> How do i do that though?
[11:09] <Ronald> I'm kinda new to ubuntu
[11:09] <HOT> Jan_111: you will notice a non destructive repair as an option, use that
[11:09] <kitche> runa: bfore it burns it will probaly ask to erase the dvd+rw
[11:09] <Jan_111> ok
[11:09] <iGadget> hi
[11:10] <iGadget> I'm having this weird problem on a freshly installed dapper machine... after logging in, I only get a black screen with a mouse cursor
[11:10] <HOT> Jan_111: one last option, boot from live cd, use usb pen?, backup home
[11:10] <HOT> Jan_111: i think i also did that just to be sure
[11:11] <Jan_111> of course, i backup home! It would kill me, if i lose that! ^^
[11:11] <iGadget> It's probably related to the specific account, because a freshly added user doesn't have this problem
[11:11] <PopeOfWar> Link encap:Local loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX Packets:625 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX Packets:625 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns: 0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:31272 (30.5 KiB) TX bytes:31272 (30.5 KiB)
[11:11] <kalif> PopeOfWar: that's lo0
[11:11] <PopeOfWar> kalif: 1o0?
[11:11] <PopeOfWar> kalif: What is that/
[11:11] <PopeOfWar> ?
[11:11] <kalif> loopback inteface
[11:11] <iGadget> can anyone tell me which files to delete in the home dir of the user to re-generate the gnome/metacity config?
[11:11] <PopeOfWar> kalif: Ok, what else IS there/
[11:12] <PopeOfWar> ?
[11:12] <kalif> internal interface - ubuntu don't like to live without it
[11:12] <iGadget> (because I hope that'll solve the problem)
[11:12] <PopeOfWar> kalif: How do I get to it?
[11:12] <HOT> iGadget: i THINK its .metacity last time i had to
[11:12] <kalif> you don't
[11:12] <webhed> one more question: do I need to 'unmount' the usb drive each time I want to disconnect it, and if so is there a convenient gui tool in ubuntu so I dont always have to open a commandline just to unmount it?
[11:12] <iGadget> HOT: I'll try, thanks
[11:12] <kalif> PopeOfWar: don't worry about it
[11:12] <PopeOfWar> kalif: ok
[11:12] <Shadow] > can i ask something
[11:13] <kalif> PopeOfWar: you'll need to get it to recognize you nic
[11:13] <cyberfr0g> yo
[11:13] <ladydoor> Shadow] : no. in fact, you only *think* you asked if you could ask something--you've been deceived
[11:13] <ladydoor> :-)
[11:13] <PopeOfWar> kalif: sudo
[11:13] <eyequeue> webhed, what happens when you right click on it?
[11:13] <PopeOfWar> oops, sorry, nm
[11:13] <HOT> webhed: are you using X? if so you will find a nice mounted drive on desktop, you can right click and "eject" if your not at CLI
[11:13] <cyberfr0g> secret
[11:13] <kalif> PopeOfWar: ifconfig should give you two devices
[11:13] <kalif> PopeOfWar: lo0 and eth0
[11:13] <kalif> PopeOfWar: try "sudo modprobe e1000" again
[11:13] <Shadow] > can someone help me with setting a network on ubuntu ?
[11:13] <PopeOfWar> kalif: sudo ispci | grep Ethernet recognizes the NIC
[11:14] <ladydoor> !someone
[11:14] <webhed> ahh a handy eject option
[11:14] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:14] <green_earz> iGadget: the xserver is crashing; xserver looks after your video card and mouse, keyboard. to reconfigure it on the command line " sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "  the last bit may be wrong xserver-xorg.  you may have the wrong dirver installed for the machines video card
[11:14] <THX-1138> deborphan = dangerous synaptic+ custom filters = priceless   http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-30967.html
[11:14] <webhed> thanks guys
[11:14] <PopeOfWar> kalif: modprobe did nothing but start a new line
[11:14] <kalif> PopeOfWar: ok
[11:15] <kalif> try ifconfig again
[11:15] <Shadow] > someone ?
[11:16] <PopeOfWar> I get the same thing... do I need my ethernet cable to be connected to te port to make ifconfig work the way you expect?
[11:16] <piblo> anyone here in europe?
[11:16] <juan_> im reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo?highlight=%28sudo%29 <if i add rootpw to sudoers, whats my root password going to be?
[11:16] <kalif> PopeOfWar: no
[11:16] <iGadget> green_earz: no, the xserver is not crashing. I can still see the mouse pointer (and I'm able to move it). It just seems like metacity refuses to start or something
[11:16] <eyequeue> !someone > Shadow] 
[11:16] <PopeOfWar> kalif: ok
[11:16] <iGadget> HOT: removing .metacity didn't work
[11:16] <eyequeue> juan_, um, thats not how that works
[11:16] <iGadget> HOT: I also removed .gnome, .gnome2 and .nautilus
[11:16] <kalif> PopeOfWar: something is wrong - ubuntu should recognize your nic at boottime
[11:16] <HOT> iGadget: do you have anything in ~.metacity/session ?
[11:16] <Shadow] > !someone
[11:16] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:16] <eyequeue> juan_, sudoers is to *avoid* having a root password, which is dangerous
[11:17] <green_earz> iGadget: ok i missed read
[11:17] <iGadget> HOT: no... I deleted the entire dir
[11:17] <ladydoor> eyequeue: say, do *you* know how to turn on insults in sudo?
[11:17] <juan_> erm how can i get a seperate root password to my userpassword?
[11:17] <Shadow] > Does anyone know how to set a network on ubuntu ?
[11:17] <iGadget> green_earz: no prob :)
[11:17] <kalif> PopeOfWar: dmesg | grep eth0
[11:17] <ladydoor> !root > juan_
[11:17] <ladydoor> juan_: read the bot's pm
[11:17] <HOT> Shadow can you be more specific?
[11:17] <kalif> PopeOfWar: does it give you any output?
[11:18] <eyequeue> ladydoor, sudo foo, you can't run foo, you are too tall!    really? sudo has an insult mode?  no i don't know about it
[11:18] <iGadget> HOT: and the stupid part is - it works fine when logging in with a freshly created user
[11:18] <Shadow] > I dont have internet connection
[11:18] <kalif> Shadow] : vi /etc/network/interfaces
[11:18] <PopeOfWar> kalif: I got nothing, just a new line...
[11:18] <ladydoor> eyequeue: yeah, i just don't know what exactly to put into the sudoers file, and the manpage is confusing :-/
[11:18] <HOT> iGadget: lame answer but...backup home and recreate user ? :)
[11:18] <kalif> PopeOfWar: your nic isn't recognized the
[11:18] <kalif> n
[11:18] <ladydoor> eyequeue: and now my curiosity's piqued
[11:19] <kalif> PopeOfWar: are your absolutely sure it's an Intel NIC?
[11:19] <iGadget> HOT: yeah it'll probably come to that. But how do I make a user 'sudo'er' in the console?
[11:19] <eyequeue> ladydoor, mine too, heh
[11:19] <HOT> iGadget: bloody good question, let me check.....
[11:19] <green_earz> Shadow] : are you behind a router ? if so can you ping the routers ip address ping 192.168.0.1 example
[11:19] <piblo> anyone here in europe?
[11:19] <ladydoor> iGadget: i think you need to add them to the admin group.
[11:20] <eyequeue> ladydoor, i hate that backman naur format, or whatever that is called
[11:20] <ladydoor> eyequeue: what is in that format?
[11:20] <juan_> thats what im reading, the section marked "Let sudo ask for the root password", do i need to enable root acount to do this?
[11:20] <eyequeue> iGadget, sudo visudo, and sudo adduser foo admin
[11:20] <Shadow] > yes i do that and everything is ok with ping but pages on internet dont want to open
[11:20] <PopeOfWar> kalif: Yes, that is the ONLY NIC that coms on this board
[11:20] <kalif> strange
[11:20] <iGadget> eyequeue: I'll try that, thanks
[11:20] <PopeOfWar> comes*
[11:21] <erUSUL> !sudo > juan_
[11:21] <eyequeue> ladydoor, the stanzas with lines like this one:             Default_Entry ::= Default_Type Parameter_List
[11:21] <kalif> PopeOfWar: can you paste lspci output to somewhere?
[11:21] <eyequeue> iGadget, np
[11:21] <ladydoor> eyequeue: aha. yeah, very confusing.
[11:21] <txx2> hi, I really need some help.. I done a 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' and now I am unable to logon!.. Can I roll-back the settings/dependancies/setting?
[11:21] <piblo> hello
[11:21] <green_earz> Shadow] : so it looks like its a dns problem the ip address is not being resovled
[11:21] <HOT> iGadget: sudo usermod -G admin username
[11:21] <PopeOfWar> brb
[11:21] <HOT> just incase no one answered...
[11:21] <eyequeue> ladydoor, it's popular in some circles, but i never got my head around it
[11:22] <Shadow] > what dns server i must to put ?
[11:22] <jrib> HOT: that would remove you from any group other than admin
[11:22] <ladydoor> eyequeue: people *like* stuff like that? i always say "the simpler, the better"
[11:22] <azulin> can I install linux on creative zen micro?
[11:22] <eyequeue> Shadow] , if you don't have one on your lan, use your isps
[11:22] <Shadow] > yes the network is good but cant open a page's on internet
[11:23] <eyequeue> ladydoor, it's considered "simpler" to them, not sure how though, lol
[11:23] <Shadow] > what is isps?
[11:23] <ladydoor> lol
[11:23] <PopeOfWar> azulin: Probably not on the micro... I doubt it has enough processor power... try something with a hard drive, like the vision
[11:23] <ladydoor> Shadow] : not laughing at you
[11:23] <HOT> cripes really? im getting this straight from the wiki To add new users to sudo, the easiest way is to use the usermod command. Run sudo usermod -G admin username . That's all there is to it. However, if the user is already a member of other groups, you'll want to add the -a option, like so: sudo usermod -a -G admin username .
[11:23] <iGadget> HOT: 'sudo adduser foo admin' did the trick, thanks to eyequeue :)
[11:23] <eyequeue> Shadow] , the one from your isp, call them and ask, if it is not in /etc/resolv.conf
[11:23] <green_earz> Shadow] : in your brower url bar paste      http://66.102.9.104/      its the ip address of google.com
[11:24] <eyequeue> HOT, yes, debian/ubuntu has adduser, a bit simpler syntax :)
[11:24] <jrib> HOT: yeah, the -a is safer, but adduser is easier to remember
[11:24] <PopeOfWar> kalif: 0000:00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation: Unknown device 104b (rev 02)
[11:24] <DigitalNinja> can I use the Ubunbu CD fore recovery? I moved /etc and now nothing works. Noet even run level 1.
[11:24] <PopeOfWar> kalif: That's what I get when I enter "sudo lspci | grep Ethernet"
[11:25] <peter_> 
[11:25] <Shadow] > i will try
[11:25] <Shadow] > tnx
[11:25] <eyequeue> DigitalNinja, /etc needs to be on /
[11:25] <green_earz> np
[11:25] <DigitalNinja> I now tht
[11:25] <eyequeue> DigitalNinja, i'd boot the alternate cd to recovery mode, mount it and edit
[11:26] <HOT> ahh it all makes sense
[11:26] <TuOki^> elm on
[11:26] <PopeOfWar> brb again
[11:26] <woodgrain> Anyone know how to change my Default Browser?
[11:26] <DigitalNinja> eyequeue: I was trying to put /etc in subversion for version control of the config files.
[11:26] <zjohnson> irritating gnome screensaver problem. grr.
[11:26] <DigitalNinja> eyequeue: I did it the wrong way
[11:26] <juan_> ive followed the instructions of ! sudo but i dont no what but dont no what my root pw is or if i need to enable a root acount so that actions that require sudo need a different password from loging in
[11:26] <eyequeue> DigitalNinja, i did that with rcs/cvs years back, yeah
[11:26] <killown> hahaha
[11:27] <LOSTINC> I am trying to run the NEW emulator on Ubuntu called FCEU and I dont get any sound anyone know how to figure out why
[11:27] <eyequeue> juan_, you don't need one, no
[11:27] <erUSUL> juan_: the password you have to use is that of your user the one you set up during install and that belongs to admin group
[11:27] <DigitalNinja> eyequeue: Maybe you can help me. I tried to move /etc into /svn/trunk/etc but that broke the system. Is there another way I can do this?
[11:28] <PopeOfWar> kalif: Did you see my last post?
[11:28] <kalif> PopeOfWar: yes
[11:28] <kalif> PopeOfWar: Unknown device is your clue
[11:28] <juan_> how do i change it so that sudo actions (like repository etc) require a different password to normal login
[11:28] <kalif> ubuntu doesnt know what to do with it
[11:28] <eyequeue> DigitalNinja, first, mv it back of course, so you can get in, heheh.  then i would "check in" that tree to cvs, but i have no svn experience, u;kk bet there is an equivalent command though
[11:28] <PopeOfWar> kalif: Ok, so it's detecting it, but it has no idea what the hell it is?
[11:29] <kalif> exactly
[11:29] <DigitalNinja> eyequeue: Oh, /etc would be a symlink to /svn/trunk/etc
[11:29] <eyequeue> DigitalNinja, is that adequate help?  i'm not svn-fluent
[11:29] <PopeOfWar> kalif: Okay, and there's really no way to change that?
[11:29] <azulin> tks PopeOfWar
[11:29] <DigitalNinja> eyequeue: That helps some
[11:29] <eyequeue> DigitalNinja, well, /etc needs to be readable on boot, perhaps the other should be the symlink
[11:30] <ladydoor> z
[11:30] <DigitalNinja> eyequeue: I tried that but the only thing that was added to subversion was the symlink. Nothing in /etc was added.
[11:30] <eyequeue> DigitalNinja, see http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ too
[11:30] <kalif> PopeOfWar: maybe there's a driver on Intel's site that hasn't made it into the kernel yet
[11:30] <PopeOfWar> kalif: You know what? I will try putting my old NIC (The one I'm using to talk to you, lol) into my new computer... see if Ubuntu detects it
[11:31] <willys_fueguino> someone has problems trying to connect to fotolog.com with firefox??
[11:31] <eyequeue> DigitalNinja, anything they say there has to be in / is somewhat critical not to change, heh
[11:31] <PopeOfWar> kalif: I have the current Linux driver downloaded, but the installation instructions are written for a Red Hat-based system, and I can't decipher them to work for Debian
[11:31] <willys_fueguino> someone has problems trying to connect to fotolog.com with firefox??
[11:31] <brosnan> willys_fueguino: works for me
[11:32] <DigitalNinja> eyequeue: I know. What I'm trying to do is have any change that I make in /etc ( the working etc ) added to the subversion repository.
[11:32] <erUSUL> juan_: ubuntu doesn't work like other distros.. but you can always add another not in admin group user and use it
[11:32] <steffen_> I have a problem. All videos (from hdd too) falter while playing (gxine, kaffeine, videoplayer) and cpu occupancy rate is nearly 100%. dma is aktiv, codecs are installed, fglrx and xorg pakets are the newest. What else can cause this ?
[11:33] <kalif> PopeOfWar: if it works with redhat it'll probalbly work with ubuntu too
[11:33] <janbanan> I followed the wiki on installing ATI drivers from ati.com. I get an error when typing sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel
[11:33] <DigitalNinja> eyequeue: In the past I just copied the data into the porject folder. It was messy but it did work
[11:33] <eyequeue> DigitalNinja, yeah, i understood that part, presently i just have a cron job run duplicity on /etc to back it up
[11:33] <PopeOfWar> kalif: isn't the terminal syntax different? Nothin is installing properly...
[11:34] <DigitalNinja> eyequeue: I'll think of something
[11:34] <eyequeue> DigitalNinja, uses gpg ssh and rsync protocols, sweet little app
[11:34] <kalif> PopeOfWar: no - it's the same
[11:34] <fwtest> how can you compare two files, which one has newer date?
[11:35] <kalif> red hat has a different start up procedure, defferent config-files and config commands, but the kernel is the same
[11:35] <PopeOfWar> kalif: Ok... one second, let me go through the procedure and tell you when I hit a roadblock...
[11:35] <linopil> eyequeue: is there ssh client for sshd ?
[11:35] <DigitalNinja> eyequeue: I use rdiff-backup. I have a script/cron job that does a full backup on the first of the month and diff's every Sunday
[11:36] <eyequeue> linopil, openssh-client and openssh-server packages
[11:36] <green_earz> fwtest: the command diff  may be what you want,  diff file1 file2
[11:36] <linopil> ty eyequeue
[11:36] <eyequeue> linopil, np
[11:36] <linopil> sorry Iforgot to ask about windows ssh client eyequeue ?
[11:36] <richard109> Hello
[11:37] <DigitalNinja> Does anyone know if you can boot ubuntu from a usb pen drive?
[11:37] <eyequeue> fwtest, or you may want ls -l foo bar
[11:37] <ladydoor> fwtest: ls -l filename1 filename2. it should have a date stamp for each
[11:37] <richard109> ive just installed the 64 ubuntu dvd
[11:37] <eyequeue> DigitalNinja, it's on the wiki somewhere, but you need a 1gb drive to store the cd image, i guess
[11:37] <PopeOfWar> kalif: Wait a minute... the driver .gz file is titled "e100-3.5.14.tar.gz" so... that means what I did with the e1000 thing was useless... I need to replace it with e100, don't I?
[11:37] <richard109> anything i should know about
[11:38] <DigitalNinja> eyequeue: I'll do some searching
[11:38] <eyequeue> DigitalNinja, good luck
[11:38] <DigitalNinja> thanks
[11:38] <fwtest> i want to do shell and want to compare which file of two is newer then select the newer one to process
[11:38] <ladydoor> linopil: google putty
[11:38] <eyequeue> !info duplicity
[11:38] <ubotu> duplicity: encrypted bandwidth-efficient backup. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.1-8ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 93 kB, installed size 420 kB
[11:38] <ladydoor> linopil: it should be the first result.
[11:38] <bam_> does anyone know how I can get konqueror to stop showing  *.sh~  files?
[11:39] <eyequeue> fwtest, ls -lrt foo bar
[11:39] <exmethix_123> hi @ all
[11:39] <exmethix_123> i have a problem with vnc
[11:40] <PopeOfWar> kalif: Also... in the beginning of the installation readme, it says to build a binary RPM package of the driver by running "rpmbuild -tb e100-3.5.14.tar.gz"
[11:40] <green_earz> exmethix_123: are you vnc over ssh ?
[11:40] <exmethix_123> no
[11:40] <exmethix_123> i just used the ubuntu onboard tool for vnc server
[11:41] <exmethix_123> the viewer is here on my dads xp machine
[11:41] <kalif> PopeOfWar: you could try with e100 instead of e1000
[11:41] <green_earz> exmethix_123: and on the remote machine is there a vnc server installed ?
[11:42] <kalif> PopeOfWar: i'll bet e100-3.5.14.tar.gz is the source code for the driver to your NIC
[11:42] <exmethix_123> yes i activated the vnc server, that comes out with ubuntu
[11:42] <exmethix_123> my problem
[11:42] <exmethix_123> :
[11:42] <exmethix_123> i tried differend vncviewers and settings
[11:42] <PopeOfWar> kalif: Can you give me the string that you gave me earlier to install the e1000 thing?
[11:42] <exmethix_123> everytime the same
[11:43] <kalif> modprobe e1000 ?
[11:43] <exmethix_123> the windows are displaed very horrible
[11:43] <PopeOfWar> kalif: Oh yeah, duh, I thought it was something more complicated for some reason, lol
[11:43] <exmethix_123> an the vnc session is very slow
[11:44] <exmethix_123> thats the same on low quality settings and high quality settings
[11:44] <exmethix_123> i think it is the server not the viewer that is making problems
[11:45] <ashzilla> Hi
[11:45] <ashzilla> I'm having a problem launching my VMserver interface.
[11:45] <exmethix_123> green_earz: any idea?
[11:45] <ashzilla> I select it from the menu, the loading curser appears and then nothing ever runs.
[11:46] <[raw] > sera
[11:46] <ashzilla> Can anyone help?
[11:47] <green_earz> exmethix_123: try a knoppix and use one of its  vnc veiwer on the xp machine to compare
[11:47] <PopeOfWar> kalif: I tried modprobe e100, and I am rebooting right now
[11:47] <kwah> ashzilla, with what&
[11:47] <kwah> ?
[11:47] <exmethix_123> green_earz: i don't have a knoppix here its my dads pc and he does also not have a cd burner :(
[11:48] <ladydoor> PopeOfWar: you shouldn't need to reboot after a modprobe
[11:48] <ashzilla> kwah: My VMserver console interface doesn't load
[11:48] <kalif> PopeOfWar: bad idea
[11:48] <PopeOfWar> kalif: Why is it a bad idea?
[11:48] <kwah> ashzilla, sorry, have no exp with VM
[11:48] <Cymage> anyone have any idea why network settings would hang after pressing ok.  Processor usage goes up to 100% with most of it designated as being used by "user".  Window will close with if I click X but processor stays loaded till restart
[11:49] <PopeOfWar> ladydoor: Ok, thank you, now I know, lol
[11:49] <ladydoor> PopeOfWar: yup!
[11:49] <kalif> PopeOfWar: you'll have to do modprobe again when it comes up
[11:49] <PopeOfWar> ladydoor: I'm used to the Windows way
[11:49] <PopeOfWar> kalif: oh... ok
[11:49] <PopeOfWar> kalif: I rebooted after e1000, and it was still there...
[11:50] <ladydoor> PopeOfWar: you mean "try to save a file--oh no, it's crashing--*reboot*?"
[11:50] <ramvi> I had a working wifi-card in ubuntu. Out of the box. But it suddenly disapeard from both network-manager and network-admin. What can I do to get it back?
[11:50] <JMH> Can anyone tell me how to format a cdrw in linux?
[11:51] <morrolan> hi, I have no fonts in programs in WIne - I have copied fonts from a Windows machine into ~/.wine/c_drive/windows/fonts, but no luck. Is there something else I have to do?
[11:51] <Cymage> i guess not
[11:51] <kwah> JMH, just burn it ,)
[11:51] <PopeOfWar> ladydoor: No, I mean, install a program--"Your changes won't take place until a full system reboot!"--*reboot*
[11:51] <JMH> I can't
[11:51] <kalif> PopeOfWar: I don't think so
[11:51] <kwah> morrolan, try winecfg?
[11:51] <eyequeue> PopeOfWar, we reboot for new kernels, that's about it :)
[11:51] <JMH> I'm trying to burn a linux distro but it says to put in a blank cd
[11:51] <ladydoor> PopeOfWar: aha
[11:52] <PopeOfWar> eyequeue: Oh, ok, lol, yay for n00bness
[11:52] <kalif> :)
[11:52] <morrolan> kwaw: I have done, there is no option that I can see that involves fonts
[11:52] <kwah> JMH, what progran do you use
[11:52] <kwah> ?
[11:52] <Shadow] > !someone
[11:52] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:52] <JMH> I need to erase my cd-rw and then burn it but I can't figure out how to format it
[11:52] <morrolan> kwah: I have done, there is no option that I can see that involves fonts
[11:52] <PopeOfWar> Do I need to reboot to mount an internet connection? Or can I just plug the cable in while it's running?
[11:52] <Shadow] > Does anyone can help me to connect on internet :S
[11:52] <kalif> PopeOfWar: just plug it in
[11:52] <eyequeue> JMH, format?
[11:52] <hoody> hi there
[11:53] <PopeOfWar> Shadow] : That's what I've been getting help with for 3 days, lmao
[11:53] <JMH> yea
[11:53] <eyequeue> JMH, do you want to mkfs?
[11:53] <kalif> PopeOfWar: you might need to ask for an ip-address though
[11:53] <PopeOfWar> howdy hoody
[11:53] <JMH> whats that eyequeue
[11:53] <JMH> ?
[11:53] <eyequeue> JMH, i don't thikn you can lowlevel format a cd
[11:53] <Shadow] > PopeOfWar; :)
[11:53] <JMH> Why not?
[11:54] <eyequeue> JMH, that's for hard drives and is not recommended for end uses
[11:54] <jbroome> you do not format cd-rws
[11:54] <eyequeue>  mkfs (8)             - build a Linux file system
[11:54] <hoody> i got a problem with my hp nx6325 notebook .... it has a broadcom wireless lan device ... i installed the firmware an i can find my network with the command "iwlist eth1 scan" but i cannot connect ... can anybody help?
[11:54] <JMH> how do I erase it then
[11:54] <eyequeue> JMH,  mkfs (8)             - build a Linux file system
[11:54] <Shadow] > so anyone can help me ?
[11:55] <eyequeue> !anyone
[11:55] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:55] <PopeOfWar> kalif: What do you mean by, "Ask for an ipaddress"?
[11:55] <Shadow] > !anyone
[11:55] <kalif> PopeOfWar: dhclient
[11:55] <PopeOfWar> IP Address*
[11:55] <PopeOfWar> kalif: Ok, thank you, I will be right back.
[11:55] <kalif> I might go to bed soon
[11:56] <Shadow] > Does anyone know how to get on internet
[11:56] <ladydoor> !anyone > Shadow] 
[11:57] <jirwin> hey all. I am trying to get my onboard sound card to work with dapper. It is an Intel 850 chipset. Any ideas on where I should start.
[11:57] <Shadow] > !anyone
[11:57] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:57] <jirwin> it is listed in lspci
[11:57] <morrolan> hi, I have no fonts in programs in WIne - I have copied fonts from a Windows machine into ~/.wine/c_drive/windows/fonts, but no luck. Is there something else I have to do?
[11:57] <Shadowpillar> Shadow] : what do you mean?
[11:57] <Shadowpillar> Shadow] : modem user?
[11:57] <Shadow] > No adsl
[11:58] <Shadowpillar> Shadow] : dial up, DSL, ADSL
[11:58] <Shadow] > but true the network
[11:58] <Shadowpillar> Shadow] : how does it connect?
[11:58] <Shadow] > adsl
[11:58] <Shadowpillar> ...
[11:58] <Shadowpillar> Shadow] : how does it connect?
[11:58] <Shadowpillar> as in, USB, RJ-45
[11:58] <Shadowpillar> etc
[11:58] <Shadow] > with switch
[11:58] <Shadowpillar> ...
[11:58] <Shadowpillar> again, how does it connect?
[11:59] <robert_> is there any way I can upgrade to evolution 2.8 on dapper?
[11:59] <Shadowpillar> the modem to the pc
[11:59] <morrolan> hi, I have no fonts in programs in WIne - I have copied fonts from a Windows machine into ~/.wine/c_drive/windows/fonts, but no luck. Is there something else I have to do? winecfg is no help.
[11:59] <Shadowpillar> etc
[11:59] <ramvi> How can I get the terminal to show me my local ip adress? ipconfig in a way
[11:59] <morrolan> ramvi: ifconfig
[11:59] <jrib> ramvi: ifconfig
[11:59] <PopeOfWar> kalif: "No broadcast interfaces found - exiting."
[11:59] <Shadow] > with network adapther
[11:59] <ladydoor> Shadow] : unless you are specific and try to give meaningful information, nobody but a mindreader could help you. you need to try to be specific :-)
[11:59] <eyequeue> !info evolution dapper
[11:59] <ubotu> evolution: The groupware suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 4586 kB, installed size 34184 kB
[11:59] <eyequeue> !info evolution edgy
[11:59] <ubotu> evolution: The groupware suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.0-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 5015 kB, installed size 37976 kB
[12:00] <morrolan> !fonts
[12:00] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[12:00] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[12:00] <rmd_> ubotu is way cool
[12:00] <spuddogg> Does anyone know how to tell is a specific module is in use?  In particular, 'ati fireglx'
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is way cool - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <ramvi> morrolan, jrib, thanks! :)
[12:00] <eyequeue> robert_, no, edgy will be out late october
[12:00] <Shadow] > Ok i have adsl and 4 pc in network, and i want to put ubuntu on one pc
[12:00] <kalif> PopeOfWar: you'll probably need to figure out how to build that driver you downloaded
[12:00] <robert_> ah, ok
[12:00] <cyberfr0g> yo
[12:00] <ziro01> hey
[12:00] <Shadow] > and install ubuntu and now i want to connect on internet