[12:12] <TheGateKeeper> gnomefreak: flash plugin update for firefox is broken too
[12:12] <mattikoo> and no flash player 9
[12:12] <crimsun> TheGateKeeper: huh?
[12:13] <TheGateKeeper> crimsun: yep did an update today and it borked on some sub element
[12:14] <TheGateKeeper> crimsun: hang on...
[12:14] <cpk1> mattikoo: no flash player 9 isnt a problem with ubuntu
[12:14] <mattikoo> cpk1:?
[12:14] <LeeJunFan> it's a problem with adobe.
[12:14] <mattikoo> yes
[12:15] <LeeJunFan> gnomefreak: yeah, you have to use the compiz packages from beerorkid
[12:15] <LeeJunFan> !compiz
[12:15] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:15] <LeeJunFan> I'm running compiz right now on edgy.
[12:15] <TheGateKeeper> crimsun: Bug 61895 has been marked a duplicate of this bug
[12:16] <crimsun> bug 61895
[12:16] <crimsun> bah
[12:16] <crimsun> TheGateKeeper: right, put 2 and 2 together, please :)
[12:18] <TheGateKeeper> crimsun: I put a search in for flash, got nothing back, then added a bug, now I wish I hadn't bothered :-(
[12:18] <Mathman> :(
[12:18] <Mathman> That's sad.
[12:18] <crimsun> that's right. And as people keep filing duplicates, I will keep rejecting them with extreme prejudice.
[12:19] <crimsun> I /really/ wish people would at least /try/.
[12:19] <Mathman> Can I reject you with extreme prejudice?
[12:19] <crimsun> sure
[12:19] <TheGateKeeper> crimsun: well no worries there, last bug I file!!
[12:20] <crimsun> TheGateKeeper: having your bug rejected is not a bad thing
[12:20] <crimsun> it's simply maintenance overhead for me
[12:21] <TheGateKeeper> crimsun: no problem having it rejected, just don't want 10 emails under 3 different people arriving in my email box
[12:22] <TheGateKeeper> crimsun: do me a favour please & kill any association with me please
[12:23] <TheGateKeeper> crimsun: the bug that is ^^^^
[12:25] <soulrider> hi everyone
[12:25] <soulrider> is anyone using Eclipse?
[12:25] <swatgoss> not now
[12:26] <swatgoss> but soon ...
[12:26] <crimsun> TheGateKeeper: then unsubscribe yourself from 61404.
[12:28] <osten> what can I do if I want to change the .mp3 association to 'xmms -e'?
[12:29] <TheGateKeeper> crimsun: done thanx
[12:30] <motorcitymadman> how does one go about knowing what version kde desktop environment one has ?
[12:30] <soulrider> motorcitymadman: right click anything
[12:30] <soulrider> then help
[12:30] <soulrider> and about KDE
[12:31] <soulrider> try it on your kicker
[12:31] <obf213> hwo do i make the k menu button open with the windows button
[12:31] <TheGateKeeper> crimsun: sorry if I produced an overhead for you, if I had known someone had posted a bug I would not have done it, I know what it's like as I have been on the receiving end in my work enviroment
[12:31] <crankcaller> To check the version open the K menu. You should have there the KDE Control Center or About KDE. Start it to check the KDE version.
[12:31] <soulrider> is anyone here running edgy ? i cant make eclipse work
[12:32] <klarre> I am trying to install g++-4.0 form the cdrom, but get an error about that libstdc++6-4.0-dev is not yet configured. How do I configure it?
[12:32] <MasterEvilAce> obf213: are you running edgy or dapper or what
[12:32] <en1gma> sup all
[12:32] <en1gma> i got kubuntu live dvd up and running...got some questions about dmserup and dmraid
[12:33] <en1gma> i updatet everything to btw
[12:33] <motorcitymadman> soulrider: version 3.5.2 this the most updated ? and thank you :-)
[12:33] <en1gma> i did a 'dmsetup mknodes' and it created some stuff
[12:33] <soulrider> latest is 3.5.4
[12:33] <soulrider> it sint he topic ;0
[12:33] <soulrider> ;)
[12:33] <knithx> I MY GOSH
[12:34] <knithx> mrbrdo: you are my idol
[12:34] <obf213> MasterEvilAce: dapper
[12:34] <motorcitymadman> me off for upgrading
[12:35] <knithx> It workded
[12:35] <knithx> Thanks
[12:35] <MasterEvilAce> obf213: try going into system settings -> keyboard shortcuts .. scroll down and look for Panel -> popup launch menu..  you may be able to set it to windows key from there.
[12:35] <knithx> What was wrong?
[12:35] <knithx> mrbrdo: ?
[12:36] <obf213> MasterEvilAce: i cant even find keyboard shortcuts on system settigns, ill try kcontrol
[12:36] <knithx> mrbrdo: I can only have a desktop
[12:36] <knithx> ?
[12:37] <crimsun> TheGateKeeper: not at all a problem, no harm done
[12:37] <P4ck3t> from where i can get cool mouse cursors ??? any sites plz...
[12:37] <MasterEvilAce> obf213: it may be under regional or accessibility stuff. ican't remember. i think it moved in Edgy
[12:38] <P4ck3t> from where i can get cool mouse cursors ??? any sites plz..
[12:38] <MenZa> http://kde-look.org P4ck3t
[12:38] <obf213> ahh o k thanks
[12:39] <P4ck3t> any other one except that??? i went there but not much of collection :(
[12:39] <P4ck3t> MenZa:  any other links?
[12:39] <MenZa> P4ck3t: sorry, no
[12:39] <P4ck3t> okie
[12:41] <en1gma> http://pastebin.com/792331
[12:41] <tom_> lo
[12:41] <tom_> anyone help me with a kubuntu problem?
[12:42] <en1gma> thats the result of 'dmsetup mknodes' and then 'dmraid -r'
[12:42] <crankcaller> wassup tom?
[12:42] <en1gma> can someone help me out
[12:43] <tom_> playing around with edgy knot 3. was working with dapper 6.06 before. now trying to figure out how to install codec support, none of the previous methods i've tried seem to work
[12:44] <en1gma> anyone?
[12:45] <crankcaller> nothing in the forums i take it? lol
[12:46] <en1gma> crap i kinda new to this and this is kinda new to the kernel so not to much info avail
[12:46] <tom_> not really, no discussion specifically for edgy
[12:47] <en1gma> im so close i can taste it though
[12:47] <tom_> i've tried the noob way out (auomatix), but that doesn't work for edgy
[12:47] <tom_> yet
[12:47] <MasterEvilAce> en1gma: what codecs?
[12:48] <en1gma> codecs?
[12:48] <en1gma> lol
[12:48] <en1gma> not even close ;)
[12:48] <en1gma> im using dmsetup and dmraid
[12:49] <en1gma> for a raid0 array with 2 partitions
[12:49] <crankcaller> tom, what codecs?
[12:49] <en1gma> ll
[12:49] <en1gma> T_T
[12:49] <tom_> just the usual, mp3s mpgs wmv and mov
[12:49] <tom_> the usual basics
[12:50] <MasterEvilAce> en1gma: sorry wrong person lol
[12:50] <en1gma> np
[12:50] <tom_> i've tried installing xine extra plugins in adept installer
[12:50] <tom_> bu
[12:50] <MasterEvilAce> you can use apt-get to get w32codecs for WMV and mpgs i believe.. MOV is quicktime and i don't believe linux supports that at all.. and for mp3s i forget the name of what you download
[12:50] <tom_> but
[12:51] <crankcaller> xine-extracodecs??
[12:52] <tom_> yes
[12:52] <NameNomad> I have a question about my extra HardDrive.  When I installed Kubuntu, I unhooked my extra hard drive from the rest of my computer because there are some files/folders that I wanted to save (music specifically).  What I'm wondering is, can I transfer those files over to my home folder and/or use them, even though they're in NTFS?
[12:52] <NameNomad> Also, to have my system recognize the extra HD, do I simply reconnect it and it will work, or do I have to add support some how?
[12:53] <MasterEvilAce> tom_: whatever audio program you're using, have you set it to use XINE? (i think most default to gstreamer?)
[12:54] <tom_> when i go to inspect changes, it shows this:
[12:54] <tom_> http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1iu1.jpg
[12:54] <gekko`> NameNomad: you could of course copy some files from your ntfs hdd
[12:54] <crankcaller> Nomad: there is stuff in the forums that tells you how to add a drive and have it recognised.
[12:55] <NameNomad> crankcaller: ok, sweet
[12:55] <NameNomad> gekko'" thank you too
[12:56] <tom_> i didn't configure it, but under Engine->Configure Engine->Sound System, 'xine Engine' is already selected
[12:56] <MasterEvilAce> hm
[12:56] <tom_> regarding the screenshot i posted, i think i previously tried to install xine extra codecs using apt-get in terminal
[12:56] <tom_> but i guess it screwed up
[12:57] <tom_> now not sure how to undo it in Adept Installer
[12:58] <MasterEvilAce> i'm not sure how to figure out why they have BREAK's
[12:58] <mrbrdo> tom what's the problem again?
[12:59] <tom_> been trying to get extra codec support working in kubuntu edgy knot 3
[12:59] <tom_> not much luck
[12:59] <tom_> seem to have screwed up installation of xine extra codecs
[01:02] <swatgoss> some1 know a chan with lot of overclockers/underclockers ?
[01:04] <LeeJunFan> swatgoss: there isn't one because they can't stay online long enough to join up with their systems crashing from hardware problems.
[01:04] <swatgoss> lol
[01:05] <swatgoss> some online guide for intel mobile pinmod ?
[01:05] <swatgoss> Yonah and Prescott
[01:06] <tom_> can anyone suggest a straightforward way of installing codecs that works in previous versions of Kubuntu?
[01:07] <tom_> something along the lines of downloading a package of codecs and installing them manually, for example
[01:07] <crankcaller> Tom: Guess you've tried this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257001&highlight=edgy+mp3
[01:08] <LeeJunFan> tom_: just download the codec from mplayer's website, untar them to /usr/lib/codecs and open xine and tell xine where to find the win32 libs.
[01:09] <LeeJunFan> err /usr/local/lib/codecs
[01:09] <tom_> !! LeeJun, that's just what I'm trying to do, I've downloaded that package
[01:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about LeeJun, that's just what I'm trying to do, I've downloaded that package - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:09] <tom_> got stuck on what to do next... hang on
[01:10] <LeeJunFan> tom_: mkdir /usr/local/lib/codecs && cd /usr/local/lib/codecs && tar xfvz [tarfile] 
[01:10] <LeeJunFan> tom_: well, you probably need to prefix sudo to each of those or run sudo -i first to become root.
[01:11] <LeeJunFan> so you can write to the /usr/local/lib dir.
[01:12] <jpiccolo_> what program is it that shows the stats of your computer, like here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=16000&d=1158734596
[01:12] <MasterEvilAce> I need an audio program where i can record sound. NOT audacity.. i think it may be broken for me
[01:14] <LeeJunFan> MasterEvilAce: sweep?
[01:14] <crankcaller> :jpiccolo, superkaramba will tell you that if you're using kde
[01:15] <LeeJunFan> crankcaller, jpiccolo_: yeah, that looks kind of like a superkaramba app.
[01:17] <tom_> LeeJun
[01:17] <tom_> made the directory in terminal, that IS where I was stuck before, trying to do it in Konquerer
[01:17] <LeeJunFan> tom
[01:17] <tom_> now stuck at the next point
[01:18] <LeeJunFan> tom_: in a shell you need to do 'sudo mkdir /usr/local/lib/codecs'
[01:18] <LeeJunFan> what point is that?
[01:18] <jpiccolo_> i am using wmaker though
[01:18] <tom_> the next bit, dealing with the tar
[01:18] <LeeJunFan> tom_: cd /usr/local/lib/codecs
[01:18] <tom_> when i do tar xfvz [tarfile] 
[01:19] <lupine_85> imbrandon: you around?
[01:19] <LeeJunFan> tom_: after you cd to /usr/local/lib/codecs
[01:19] <LeeJunFan> tom_: then it will untar in the directory you are in.
[01:19] <tom_> yes; how do i refer to the tar file, on my desktop
[01:19] <imbrandon> lupine_85: kinda , wasup ?
[01:19] <lupine_85> ~/Desktop/<tarfile>
[01:19] <LeeJunFan> tom_: you have to specify the path to it, like that ^^ :D
[01:19] <lupine_85> I sent that parcel off today :)
[01:19] <lupine_85> will email you the detail
[01:20] <imbrandon> cool , thnaks man
[01:20] <imbrandon> you rock
[01:20] <lupine_85> :p
[01:20] <tom_> okay it's found it
[01:20] <tom_> but the tar file is .tar.bz2
[01:20] <lupine_85> then use j instead of z
[01:20] <LeeJunFan> tom_: then do tar xfvj instead of z
[01:21] <lupine_85> webcam is in, but you'll need some adaptors for the FM Radio and TV IN sockets - the current ones will likely be useless to you (rgb-style? not sure, but standard aerial won't go into it)
[01:21] <lupine_85> it's a conexant chipset
[01:21] <tom_> tried, now says ... lots of error msgs
[01:21] <MasterEvilAce> does everyone have flickering cursors when a cursor animates? so irritating. Hardware/Software rendered cursor doesn't make a difference
[01:21] <tom_> forgot to sudo!
[01:21] <LeeJunFan> yep.
[01:22] <SillyZ> Q: whats a decent CAD (Computer Aided Design) package for Kubuntu or Ubuntu ??
[01:22] <ubuntu_> my installer crashed
[01:22] <lupine_85> !CAD
[01:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about CAD - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <lupine_85> hmm
[01:22] <lupine_85> Inkscape is good for 2D/vector stuff
[01:22] <tom_> the codecs are there, in /usr/local/lib/codecs/essential20060611
[01:22] <lupine_85> there's a 3D one... blender?
[01:22] <SillyZ> lnk or ink ?
[01:22] <tom_> does it matter that they're in a subdirectory?
[01:22] <lupine_85> !blender
[01:22] <ubotu> blender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[01:22] <lupine_85> ink
[01:23] <SillyZ> blender is more for 3d not 2d, and the learning curve on it is a nightmar
[01:23] <SillyZ> nightmare even
[01:23] <SillyZ> ok inkscape ill check it out, thanks lupine_85
[01:23] <LeeJunFan> tom_: yeah, it will. cd into that dir and do 'sudo mv * ../.'
[01:23] <Sanne> MasterEvilAce: I remember reading that the flickering is a known bug in the nvidia drivers, hopefully being fixed by nvidia. Do you use nvidia drivers?
[01:23] <LeeJunFan> tom_: that will move all the files up one dir level
[01:23] <MasterEvilAce> Sanne: damn. yes.
[01:24] <Sanne> MasterEvilAce: then that's that. We will have to wait. I made myself a cursor package where I replaced the animated ones with static images...
[01:25] <MasterEvilAce> Sanne: is it possible to send that to me? or explain how i would go about doing that
[01:25] <Sanne> MasterEvilAce: Lemme check if I remember, sec
[01:26] <tom_> sorry to be so helpless but i'm not sure how to write out the destination function
[01:26] <tom_> the files are in /usr/local/lib/codecs/essential-20060611
[01:26] <tom_> need them to be in /usr/local/lib/codecs
[01:26] <tom_> so i type what?
[01:27] <LeeJunFan> tom_: cd to the dir it created first
[01:27] <tom_> yup
[01:28] <Xcalibur> how can I share my internet from my laptop to my xbox?
[01:28] <LeeJunFan> tom_: then 'sudo mv * ../.'
[01:28] <tom_> er do i need to adjust that or literally type it?
[01:28] <Xcalibur> ?
[01:28] <LeeJunFan> sudo mv * ../.
[01:29] <LeeJunFan> exactly
[01:29] <tom_> cos i get "mv: missing destination file operand after `*../.'"
[01:29] <LeeJunFan> sudo mv[space] *[space] ../.
[01:29] <Xcalibur> anyone?
[01:29] <LeeJunFan> tom_: I think you are missing the space after *
[01:30] <Xcalibur> !seen Hawkind
[01:30] <MasterEvilAce> Xcalibur: you're looking for specifically laptop -> Xbox.. or any method? You can buy a router to do what you're looking to do
[01:30] <ubotu> I haven't seen hawkind recently
[01:30] <tom_> think it worked that time
[01:30] <tom_> yes, thanks
[01:30] <LeeJunFan> you're welcome
[01:30] <SillyZ> sudo mv * ../.    will move whatever is in the current dir back one dir and drop it there
[01:30] <Xcalibur> I am connected wirelessly to my router from the laptop, I am connected from my laptop to the xbox by a NIC, and a crossover cable
[01:31] <Xcalibur> how can I set up the internet to be shared
[01:31] <Xcalibur> ?
[01:31] <sinpath> can anyone help me get my media working ?
[01:31] <tom_> right... they're in the right place... what do i do to make Amarok (and evrything else) use them?
[01:31] <LeeJunFan> Xcalibur: first you need to get a working private network between your laptop and your xbox. ie on 192.168.x.x network.
[01:31] <Xcalibur> how I do that?
[01:32] <LeeJunFan> Xcalibur: can you set the xbox with a static IP or do you have to use dhcp?
[01:32] <Sanne> MasterEvilAce: I can't remember the details. I got two programs able to manipulate xcursor themes. Both are python programs that dont't need to be installed, but can be run with 'python ./progname.py' from any directory. The two programs are: xcurs and gursor-maker. I try to find links to them, sec.
[01:32] <Xcalibur> I have it set to DHCP
[01:32] <SillyZ> and depending upon the Xbox, you may or maynot need a cross-over style cable , it may require a straight thru cable
[01:32] <SillyZ> You can set the Xbox for a static ip, like 192.168.0.100 for example
[01:32] <Xcalibur> I thought that applies to only xbox to router, or modem, I thought NIC to NIc requires cross over
[01:33] <SillyZ> well if you have 1 nic in your box, whats the xbox connecting to ?
[01:33] <Xcalibur> my laptop
[01:33] <Sanne> MasterEvilAce: http://gursormaker.sourceforge.net/  and   http://varg.dyndns.org/psi/pub/code/xcurs/index.html
[01:33] <Xcalibur> thourgh it's NIC
[01:33] <MasterEvilAce> Sanne: ty kindly
[01:34] <LeeJunFan> Xcalibur: most new equipment auto senses and crossover...
[01:34] <Xcalibur> then the laptop has wireless internet
[01:34] <SillyZ> ah ok
[01:34] <Sanne> MasterEvilAce: one of them was a bit easier than the other, but I can't remember which one I actually used.
[01:34] <SillyZ> so hardwire to the xbox, and wireless to the wireless AP
[01:34] <Xcalibur> yes
[01:34] <sinpath> can any one help me get my linux to play movies,cd,dvd?
[01:35] <LeeJunFan> Xcalibur: you can set your laptop to something like 192.168.10.1 and your xbox to 192.168.10.2 both with netmask 255.255.255.0, enable forwarding on your linux machine, and turn on NAT with iptables.
[01:35] <LeeJunFan> !dvd
[01:35] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:35] <LeeJunFan> sinpath: see ubotu's message ^^
[01:35] <LeeJunFan> Xcalibur: set your laptop eth0 that is.
[01:36] <Xcalibur> how I do all that stuff
[01:36] <t3nxt> i downloaded ubuntu... im using it right now with live cd. My questions are... if i install ubuntu can i switch to kubuntu later without needing to format, bla bla bla...? if there is any main diference between ubuntu and kubuntu besides appereance?
[01:36] <Xcalibur> I have xbox set to static 192.168.0.100
[01:36] <LeeJunFan> Xcalibur: if you leave your xbox on dhcp you'll have to setup dhcp-server on your linux, which requires more work an learning - although that's not really a bad thing.
[01:36] <Xcalibur> laptop 192.168.0.102
[01:36] <LeeJunFan> Xcalibur: and what is the gateway set to?
[01:36] <Xcalibur> how I set gateway
[01:37] <Xcalibur> o
[01:37] <Xcalibur> it's 192.168.1.1
[01:37] <LeeJunFan> uh, netmask?
[01:37] <Xcalibur> I don't know how to view that
[01:37] <LeeJunFan> unfortunate that wireless can't do bridging right, that's be easier to setup.
[01:38] <t3nxt> can anyone help me?
[01:38] <Xcalibur> my xbox says it's the gateway
[01:38] <Xcalibur> how I fic
[01:38] <LeeJunFan> Xcalibur: should be on the xbox. Reason I ask is that if the xbox is set to 192.168.0.something and the gateway is 192.168.1.1 and netmask is 255.255.255.0 they won't even be able to talk to each other.
[01:38] <Xcalibur> fix*o
[01:38] <Xcalibur> ok
[01:39] <t3nxt> hello
[01:39] <t3nxt> (23:36:13) t3nxt: i downloaded ubuntu... im using it right now with live cd. My questions are... if i install ubuntu can i switch to kubuntu later without needing to format, bla bla bla...? if there is any main diference between ubuntu and kubuntu besides appereance?
[01:39] <LeeJunFan> Xcalibur: so - your wireless router is 192.168.1.1? your laptop should be also 192.168.1.something not 192.168.0.N
[01:39] <MasterEvilAce> t3nxt: yes
[01:40] <clemyeats> t3nxt: ubuntu and kubuntu are the same... ubuntu comes with gnome and gnome apps, kubuntu comes with kde and kde apps.
[01:40] <clemyeats> t3nxt: from ubuntu you can install kde and the kubuntu apps by installing a single package.
[01:40] <clemyeats> t3nxt: and same goes from kubuntu
[01:40] <Xcalibur> laptop external IP= 192.198.1.100 internal=192.168.0.102 xbox=192.168.0.103
[01:41] <t3nxt> so i guess is better rwo have both of them kubuntu and ubuntu?
[01:41] <Mortice> although you don't get games with kubuntu-desktop whereas you do with ubuntu-desktop. that's always struck me as somewhat odd.
[01:41] <t3nxt> *to
[01:41] <LeeJunFan> Xcalibur: okay, so you already have them setup so your laptop can reach the xbox? good.
[01:41] <Xcalibur> my xbox still says it has a gateway problem
[01:41] <troy> hey folks, for a non-mission critical system where I mostly want to play with my computer, would edgy yet be suitable?
[01:42] <LeeJunFan> Xcalibur: Yeah, the xbox should have the 192.168.0.102 as it's GW.
[01:42] <LeeJunFan> Xcalibur: and the DNS on the xbox should have the nameservers listed in '/etc/resolv.conf' on your laptop.
[01:42] <sangers_> troy: what can a non mission critical system could it be?
[01:42] <clemyeats> t3nxt: one is enough. If you prefer Gnome get Ubuntu. If you prefer KDE get Kubuntu. Whichever you choose, you can always install the other from the one you have.
[01:43] <troy> sangers_: it's my toy - I do all my real work at the university :)
[01:43] <sangers_> so lauch dapper instead
[01:43] <Sanne> t3nxt: if you want to use only one desktop, say, gnome (ubuntu default), and want to run applications from kde (kubuntu default), you don't need to install the whole kubuntu desktop. You just need to install the program, and the package manager should automatically install any additional libraries that are needed.
[01:44] <sangers_> troy: you will have more fun I guarantee u
[01:44] <troy> sangers_: already have dapper - have a few issues with it (broken video drivers) that is fixed on the livecd...
[01:44] <LeeJunFan> Xcalibur: then you need to enable forwarding on the laptop by issuing 'sudo net/ipv4/ip_forward=1' and enable NAT by running 'sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.0/24 -j MASQUERADE'
[01:45] <Xcalibur> ok, I set the DNS
[01:45] <Xcalibur> stil, gateway prob
[01:45] <sangers_> troy: is your video card an ATI or nvidia?
[01:45] <troy> sangers_: yes, ATI
[01:45] <LeeJunFan> Xcalibur: look up a couple lines at my last msg ^^
[01:46] <troy> sangers_: plus I get the added bonus of 64bit related issues :)
[01:46] <higi> hola
[01:46] <higi> alguien sabe si se puede "pausar" el automatix?
[01:46] <Xcalibur> it says "sudo net/ipv4/ip_forward=1"
[01:46] <Xcalibur> not found
[01:46] <higi> does anyone know if its possible to "pause" AUTOMATIX?
[01:46] <clemyeats> higi, no se hable espano aqui. Ingles por favor.
[01:46] <LeeJunFan> Xcalibur: sorry sudo sysctl ...
[01:46] <LeeJunFan> sysctl -w
[01:47] <Mortice> Xcalibur: "sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"
[01:47] <higi> i mean, i'd like to continue installing the programs tommoro
[01:47] <LeeJunFan> Xcalibur: hehe, so - sudo sysctl -w net/ipv4/ip_forward=1
[01:47] <higi> is it possible?
[01:47] <sangers_> troy: nice 64bit , I installed sarge on my c3600
[01:47] <Xcalibur> ok, what next
[01:47] <LeeJunFan> Xcalibur: or what Mortice says, both have same result. You also will want to edit /etc/sysctl.conf to turn on forwarding permanently.
[01:47] <alex_yo> how to patch the start button
[01:48] <LeeJunFan> Xcalibur: then run the sudo iptables also mentioned above.
[01:48] <troy> sangers_: really, I just interested in seeing if the handling of 32bit oddballs is improved in edgy+amd64, but it's kind of hard to start installing things when using the livecd
[01:48] <alex_yo> can somebody help me? where is the dir?
[01:48] <higi> does anyone know if its possible to "pause" AUTOMATIX?
[01:48] <troy> crtl-Z perhaps? :P
[01:48] <Xcalibur> I'm gonna try to connect
[01:48] <tom_> what are u trying to do alex?
[01:48] <higi> what does it do?
[01:49] <sangers_> troy: I have no amd64, unfortunately
[01:49] <Xcalibur> ok, laptop external=192.168.1.100 internal=192.168.0.102 xbox=192.186.0.102
[01:49] <troy> sangers_: for instance, I'd like to install wine (32bit) from regular repos onto ubuntu64 without apt complaining to high hell
[01:49] <alex_yo> i want to change the start button of the k-menu without kbfx
[01:49] <Xcalibur> is that right?
[01:50] <LeeJunFan> troy: 32bit in 64bit still sucks, and it's pointless anyway - 32bit is faster for damn near everything you want to do unless you are running a huge mysql db or some odd thing.
[01:50] <sangers_> troy: could you use, dpkg -i --force instead?
[01:50] <Max_-> Hi there!  I already installed kubuntu, now I need to load GNOME...  any easy way like with adept??
[01:50] <higi> does anyone know if its possible to "pause" AUTOMATIX in order to continue installing apps tommorow?
[01:50] <troy> sangers_: I could, but it doesn't put in into /usr/lib32 like it should.. *pouts*
[01:50] <LeeJunFan> Xcalibur: xbox should not have same IP as laptop, but the gateway of the xbox should be the IP of the laptop.
[01:51] <tom_> oh right, over my head, sorry
[01:51] <Xcalibur> o
[01:51] <Xcalibur> ok
[01:51] <troy> LeeJunFan: well, audio encoding is nearly twice as fast, mostly on account of the extra memory registers...
[01:51] <bobbyyu> Guys, when I try to install a package using Adept, Adept tells me it's broken.
[01:52] <sangers_> troy: and if you install it from source, that should work with special command
[01:52] <troy> sangers_: I could just start randomly repackaging things from the 32bit repos to use the right paths ...
[01:53] <pierreth> how can i make kontact move my spam to junk automatically?
[01:53] <sangers_> troy: I wish you joice in your 64bits endover
[01:53] <Mortice> pierreth: is your spam filtered through a program which tags it as spam?
[01:53] <pierreth> Mortice: yes
[01:53] <Xcalibur> ok, it says "cables connected: ok" IP configured "ok" DNS resolved "ok" xbox live connection "not found" wtf?
[01:54] <Mortice> pierreth: ok. in kontact somewhere there's a filters section where you can use that tag
[01:54] <alex_yo> can somebody help me
[01:54] <bobbyyu> Guys, when I try to install a package using Adept, Adept tells me it's broken.
[01:54] <Mortice> pierreth: one moment, i'll find it
[01:54] <troy> sangers_: well, I have had pretty good success with dapper - for example, I figured out how to run 32bit flash with 64bit konq without problems... just took a little bit of ugly first :)
[01:54] <LeeJunFan> Xcalibur: are you running any kind of firewall stuff on the laptop?
[01:54] <Sanne> Max_-: the package ubuntu-desktop would get you everything a regular ubuntu install would have installed, if you want to have that.
[01:54] <Xcalibur> I have firestarter, which I plan to use for bridging, but it is off
[01:54] <pierreth> Mortice: I have two filters for that
[01:55] <Mortice> pierreth: and they're not running automatically when you get new mail?
[01:55] <Max_-> cool thanks Sanne
[01:55] <Sanne> Max_-: you're welcome
[01:55] <pierreth> Mortice: I think so but the only mark the mail
[01:55] <LeeJunFan> Xcalibur: I've never used an x-box before, is there any way you can verify it's reaching the internet like a browser or ping utility?
[01:56] <pierreth> Mortice: I have a kind of thermometer at the top of the message
[01:56] <Mortice> pierreth: oh, i see. no, i'm talking about contact filters which check if the mail is marked as spam and then move those mails to the spam folder
[01:56] <LeeJunFan> Xcalibur: of course if it's resolving the DNS okay like it says it must be getting past your laptop.
[01:56] <LeeJunFan> Xcalibur: is your laptop what you are on right now?
[01:56] <Mortice> pierreth: oh, that must be kontact doing its own spam-filtering. i'm not sure how that works, i'm afraid.
[01:56] <Xcalibur> yes
[01:57] <Xcalibur> I'm using crossover office to us mirc
[01:57] <Xcalibur> use8
[01:57] <Xcalibur> use
[01:57] <pierreth> Mortice: OK, I will to try to find by myself
[01:57] <Mortice> pierreth: sorry!
[01:57] <LeeJunFan> Xcalibur: are you trying to upset the balance between good and evil or just make rabbits fall from the sky? don't run that crap on linux :p
[01:58] <pierreth> Mortice: thank you
[01:58] <Mortice> Xcalibur: there are loads of good IRC clients for linux - why put yourself through crossover pain to use mIRC?
[01:58] <Xcalibur> lol
[01:58] <Xcalibur> I like mirc, but can we get back on topic
[01:59] <n00btard> i just tried to install the nvidia-glx drivers and when i try to do the "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" it gives me the "Error: your X configuration has been altered." how can i fix it?
[01:59] <Mortice> heh, sorry.
[01:59] <Max_-> But now, how do I start with gnome or kde ???.. without having a default DE?
[01:59] <LeeJunFan> Xcalibur: well, we know your laptop is on the internet, we know your xbox is talking through your laptop as it should if it can resolve dns, so I don't know what more we could do, since I really don't know much about xbox, but it sure sounds like everythign is working like it's supposed to.
[01:59] <Sanne> n00btard: it tells you the command what you should do
[01:59] <Xcalibur> ok
[01:59] <Mortice> LeeJunFan: it's possible that the Xbox expects the gateway to be on 192.168.0.1
[01:59] <n00btard> no it doesnt..
[01:59] <LeeJunFan> n00btard: it should say how in the error, something about md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > .. blah blah
[01:59] <lupine_85> do you need to have a static route set up in the router?
[02:00] <Mortice> (I'm just guessing)
[02:00] <n00btard> yea wtf does that mean?
[02:00] <travis> hey everyone, got a question, is there a way to turn off the power saving feature permanently? cause everytime i restart it goes back to power saving which is annoying
[02:00] <lupine_85> (also guessing :) )
[02:00] <todz> hey
[02:00] <lupine_85> ok, is the ubuntu PC connected to a router?
[02:00] <LeeJunFan> n00btard: that's what you should do so it can edit your xorg.conf.
[02:00] <n00btard> ohh
[02:00] <todz> I'm trying to install eft knot 3 and it won't go past setting the time in the install press next and it just stays there
[02:01] <lupine_85> and are all three (ubuntu pc, laptop, router) on the same CIDR range (e.g. they're 192.168.0.<something>)
[02:01] <Mortice> todz: #ubuntu+1 is the place for you.
[02:01] <LeeJunFan> todz: apparently it's not time to install it.
[02:01] <LeeJunFan> :)
[02:01] <Sanne> n00btard: you just need to update a checksum of the config file so the system knows it's ok and can be altered. Nothing serious
[02:01] <todz> I'm installing the testing cd
[02:01] <todz> should atleast install
[02:01] <Mortice> todz: *testing* cd. and again, #ubuntu+1 for edgy discussion, please.
[02:02] <LeeJunFan> n00btard: an md5sum is a fingerprint of the file which was created during setup. So when you try to edit the xorg conf it can check that md5sum and see if it's the one installed originally, if it has been modified the md5sum stored in the md5sum file won't match the md5sum of the xorg.conf.
[02:02] <pierreth> Mortice: I have every to filter my spam
[02:02] <n00btard> ok
[02:02] <LeeJunFan> n00btard: so the installer won't mess with it - thinking you have made custom configs and it doesn't want to mess those up for you.
[02:03] <n00btard> how do i update the md thing?
[02:03] <Mortice> pierreth: so you're filtering your mail with something like spamassassin?
[02:03] <pierreth> Mortice: But X-Bogosity is unsure about the spam
[02:03] <LeeJunFan> n00btard: so when you update the md5sum file to match your xorg.conf you are basically saying to the installer that it's okay to change.
[02:03] <bobbyyu> Guys, when I try to install a package using Adept, Adept tells me it's broken.
[02:03] <LeeJunFan> n00btard: I don't know exactly by memory, but it should tell you the exact syntax to run in the error it gave you.
[02:03] <n00btard> i tried it
[02:03] <n00btard> and changed the nv to nvidia
[02:03] <n00btard> now it tells me another error
[02:04] <pierreth> Mortice: and unsure means is not spam in practice
[02:04] <LeeJunFan> n00btard: what's the new error?
[02:04] <Mortice> pierreth: I'm not sure what you mean with X-Bogosity. It's likely that I'm not familiar with your spam-filtering setup, I'm afraid.
[02:04] <n00btard> hold
[02:04] <Mortice> s/mean\ with/mean\ by/
[02:04] <n00btard> i may have it
[02:04] <Joshsi> ok
[02:04] <pierreth> Mortice: Are you using something else?
[02:04] <Max_-> But now, how do I start with gnome or kde ???.. without having a default DE?
[02:04] <n00btard> ya ok i think i got it
[02:04] <n00btard> thanks for the help
[02:04] <pierreth> Mortice: I have the default
[02:05] <Mortice> pierreth: I've used spamassassin and procmail filters fairly successfully, but I don't get a lot of spam anyway :)
[02:05] <LeeJunFan> n00btard: no problem, good luck.
[02:05] <pierreth> Mortice: You are missing some penis inlargement :-)
[02:05] <Mortice> pierreth: I know. I don't know how I survive sometimes.
[02:06] <pierreth> Mortice: I have a lot of spam :-(
[02:06] <pierreth> Mortice: 80% of mail
[02:06] <Mortice> pierreth: ouch!
[02:06] <Homer> yeah
[02:06] <bobbyyu> Guys, when I try to install a package using Adept, Adept tells me it's broken.
[02:07] <Mortice> !tell bobbyyu about patience
[02:07] <Mortice> bobbyyu: you need to say what package it is, at least
[02:07] <Homer> !tell homer about patience
[02:07] <Homer> same thing happened to me with some packages
[02:07] <bobbyyu> gcj
[02:07] <Homer> libgtk2.0
[02:08] <Homer> -dev
[02:08] <pierreth> Mortice: I'll google something
[02:08] <bobbyyu> When I try a complete system upgrade, it says that also
[02:08] <Homer> apt-get said it was "bugged"
[02:08] <bobbyyu> I was hoping someone was listening
[02:09] <pierreth> Mortice: Oups, I was using 'google' as a verbe, am I in copyright infragment?
[02:09] <cpk1> bobbyyu: what does it say is broken?
[02:09] <Werdna> pierreth, probably
[02:10] <Homer> you know what I'm thinking it is
[02:10] <pierreth> Werdna: Just I write a message to retract these words?
[02:10] <Homer> did you recently update?
[02:11] <pierreth> Werdna: May be Google will shut down this channel...
[02:11] <Werdna> pierreth, will help.
[02:11] <bobbyyu> There was an error commiting changes. There was a problem downloading some packages, or else the commit would break changes.
[02:11] <bobbyyu> That's what it said
[02:11] <Homer> yeah
[02:12] <Homer> I think maybe a reboot will fix that or at least reloading X
[02:12] <pierreth> OK, my mention of 'Google' as a verb was not intentional
[02:12] <bobbyyu> Homer, are you addressing me?
[02:12] <Homer> cause you maybe updated packages you are running
[02:12] <Homer> yeah
[02:12] <Xial> Good evening. Absolute newbie to this. I am attempting to use a LiveCD to see if I can do this, but for some reason, it shuts my optical mouse off during boot. Is there an option or setting I could pass at startup to prevent this? I was unable to find one in the disk's startup help.
[02:13] <bobbyyu> I tried a reboot
[02:13] <Homer> did this happen after you did a upgrade
[02:13] <XTorchedX> usb mouse Xial?
[02:13] <bobbyyu> A complete upgrade, yes
[02:13] <Homer> yeah
[02:13] <Homer> hmm
[02:13] <Xial> No, PS/2 Mouse, Optical, both my 3 button and 5 button mice are affected.
[02:14] <Xial> Incidentally, I can click buttons and menus will pop up, but the optical bit underneath is completely off, and does not respond.
[02:16] <Homer> try "sudo apt-get clean && sud apt-get update"
[02:16] <Homer> sudo*
[02:18] <bobbyyu> what does clean do?
[02:18] <Homer> delete your local package database
[02:18] <Homer> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html
[02:18] <LeeJunFan> tried apt-get -f install?
[02:19] <bobbyyu> No, what does that do, LeeJunFan?
[02:19] <LeeJunFan> bobbyyu: fix-broken
[02:20] <LeeJunFan> bobbyyu: from 'man apt-get' :
[02:20] <LeeJunFan> Fix; attempt to correct a system with broken dependencies in place. This option, when used with install/remove, can omit any packages to
[02:20] <LeeJunFan>               permit APT to deduce a likely solution.
[02:20] <bobbyyu> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 18 not upgraded.
[02:21] <bobbyyu> That's what the results say
[02:22] <LeeJunFan> bobbyyu: how did this all start? doing a dist upgrade?
[02:22] <bobbyyu> Yes
[02:22] <LeeJunFan> okay, now if you try apg-get dist-upgrade again?
[02:23] <bobbyyu> No, this started with a "complete upgrade" option with Adept
[02:23] <LeeJunFan> bobbyyu: sometimes with nested dependancies it's necessary to do apt-get dist-upgrade followed by apt-get -f install followed by another apt-get dist-upgrade... Sometimes with more repetitions. You should have seen what I went thru to install edgy yesterday :(
[02:24] <LeeJunFan> bobbyyu: not familiar with using adept much myself.
[02:25] <Homer> same thing happened to me
[02:25] <Homer> I think all adept upgrade is the same thing as apt-get upgrade
[02:25] <lupine_85> dpkg is also important :)
[02:26] <lupine_85> dpkg -r... dpkg --force-foo... etc
[02:26] <LeeJunFan> Homer: yeah, I like using apt-get at the command line because the messages it gives are usually more informative than a status bar.
[02:26] <carlos> Good night! I want a help to free my doors against firewall. The doors are 6891 and 6892
[02:26] <mrbrdo> If anyone is interested, i wrote a howto for XGL\Compiz on Kubuntu Dapper: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1532397
[02:26] <carlos> Can anyone help me, please?
[02:26] <Homer> LeeJunFan: I use both interchangeably
[02:26] <Homer> one thing tho
[02:27] <Homer> can use apt to search?
[02:27] <Homer> you*
[02:27] <mrbrdo> carlos: just ask, maybe..
[02:27] <mrbrdo> Homer: apt-cache search
[02:27] <cpk1> Homer: aptitude search whati'mlookingfor
[02:27] <mrbrdo> Homer: or just run "aptitude" for a "semi-graphical" version
[02:27] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: nice work, you are asking to install compiz twice. heh
[02:28] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: not that it really matters much.
[02:28] <mrbrdo> LeeJunFan: am i? where?
[02:28] <LeeJunFan> sudo aptitude install compiz compiz-plugins compiz
[02:28] <mrbrdo> oops
[02:28] <bobbyyu> I'm going to save this as a log
[02:29] <ryan_> y
[02:29] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: I think this repos works: http://media.blutkind.org/xgl/
[02:29] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: it did for me last night when all the others were broken.
[02:29] <mrbrdo> LeeJunFan: hm ok i'll add that one as the primary one
[02:30] <carlos> mrbrdo: Do you have some information about how to open the 6891 and 6892 doors?
[02:30] <Homer> one thing I noticed in kubuntu which is probably a bug
[02:31] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: also instead of cgwd and compiz you can just run compiz-start & it will take care of both for you.
[02:31] <Homer> is that it won't add menu options until you reload KDE
[02:31] <Homer> for packages
[02:31] <Homer> while Ubuntu des
[02:31] <bobbyyu> LeeJunFan: Only the Openoffice packages are being update through Dist upgrade
[02:31] <bobbyyu> Is this normal?
[02:31] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: at least with the edgy packages.
[02:31] <mrbrdo> carlos: no idea what that is :P
[02:32] <mrbrdo> LeeJunFan: isn't compiz-start a script u have to make?
[02:32] <LeeJunFan> bobbyyu: if that's all that needed upgraded then yeah. Are you trying to take breezy to dapper or something?
[02:32] <mrbrdo> oh i c
[02:32] <Homer> xgl runs REALLY REALLY slow for me
[02:32] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: nope.
[02:32] <Homer> even without compiz
[02:32] <mrbrdo> well, it doesn't matter, it works this way just fine
[02:32] <bobbyyu> No.
[02:32] <mrbrdo> it's prolly the same anyway
[02:32] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: yeah.
[02:32] <bobbyyu> Just trying to fix the problem with my broken packages
[02:32] <mrbrdo> Homer: that's the thing.. it ALWAYS runs slow on ATI cards WITHOUT compiz
[02:32] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: yeah, it still uses cdwg.
[02:33] <mrbrdo> Homer: when you install compiz it will run ok. if you have KDE check my howto, i've written all about it there
[02:33] <Homer> what so compiz will make it run fast?
[02:33] <LeeJunFan> it's running pretty well on my ATI machines (2 of them).
[02:33] <Homer> k
[02:33] <Homer> but I mean seriously like at 0.5 FPS
[02:33] <LeeJunFan> I'm using the newest driver straight from ATI with my own kernel though.
[02:33] <Homer> i'm like wait, this is hardware acceleration?
[02:33] <Homer> :p
[02:33] <mrbrdo> Homer: it's just that ATI drivers are broken and work very bad without a composite manager..
[02:34] <mrbrdo> Homer: performance will greatly improve after u install compiz :P if u have KDE check the howto, seriously.. i made it out of the problems i had with it
[02:34] <Homer> url again?
[02:34] <LeeJunFan> bobbyyu: okay, dist upgrade is normally used to upgrade to the next version. it sounds like your system is all up to date.
[02:34] <mrbrdo> Homer: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1532397#post1532397 but it's for KDE, and for Kubuntu Dapper
[02:34] <Homer> I have both
[02:35] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: yeah, it's a good how-to. Nice to have an updated one, a lot of the ones you find on the net now are outdated with all the changes compiz has gone thru lately. ie - many of them don't even tell you to start compiz itself.
[02:35] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: nice job.
[02:35] <mrbrdo> thanks :)
[02:36] <pierreth> my cd audio does not play with KsCD
[02:37] <pierreth> it only plays with Kaffeine
[02:37] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: the way I've got mine set is that I put what you've got in startxgl.sh in ~/.Xsession, then when I'm logging in with kdm I choose session default instead of KDE, default uses the .Xsession file.
[02:37] <mrbrdo> i was considering making one for Gnome too, but i had some problems with it there that i could not fully fix, but i'll still maybe make it cause other ppl don't have that problem even though i told them what to do.. maybe it was something i did before i installed xgl
[02:37] <Homer> ok so using sudo kate is OK?
[02:37] <Homer> somone told me that's bad
[02:37] <mrbrdo> LeeJunFan: yeah i saw a howto using that method.. but it's nice if u can switch back to gnome when u want
[02:38] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: that way it's easy for my to choose to login to non compiz kde, or compiz.
[02:38] <mrbrdo> Homer: well, gedit i know is used with gksudo.. i dunno what's the same for KDE
[02:38] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: you still can.
[02:38] <LeeJunFan> Homer: no use kdesu to start kde apps
[02:38] <LeeJunFan> !kdesu
[02:38] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[02:38] <mrbrdo> LeeJunFan: yeah i understand now
[02:39] <mrbrdo> thanks for pointing that out LeeJunFan, i was wondering what it was on kde
[02:39] <Homer> deb http://media.blutkind.org/xgl dapper main <-- is there amd64 packages?
[02:39] <alex_yo> how to patch the launch button?
[02:39] <alex_yo> i don't wan't use kbfx
[02:40] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: did you let the peeps in #ubuntu-xgl know about your how-to?
[02:40] <Homer> LeeJunFan: just wondering what happens when you use sudo
[02:40] <Homer> cause I just did
[02:40] <Homer> and it worked
[02:40] <mrbrdo> there's a lot of warrnings\errors
[02:40] <mrbrdo> it works for me too
[02:40] <mrbrdo> i guess it CAN go wrong though
[02:40] <Homer> ok
[02:41] <mrbrdo> can anyone tell me how to make a script that will do if first line of file x = 'bla bla bla' then
[02:41] <mrbrdo> an SH script
[02:41] <bobbyyu> So you guys don't use Adept, do you?
[02:41] <LeeJunFan> yeah, it can mess up ownership on tmpfiles in /var/tmp and /tmp as well as your home dir.
[02:41] <mrbrdo> i do
[02:41] <Ertain> How do I merely upgrade a pack?
[02:41] <cpk1> Homer: root starts stealing things from you
[02:41] <mrbrdo> LeeJunFan: do u know how to do that?
[02:41] <Homer> Ertain: your whole system or just one?
[02:42] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: what's that?
[02:42] <mrbrdo> Ertain: for a single one it's the simplest in adept :)
[02:42] <mrbrdo> LeeJunFan: <mrbrdo> can anyone tell me how to make a script that will do if first line of file x = 'bla bla bla' then
[02:42] <Ertain> I mean upgrading a pack with the *.deb file.
[02:42] <mrbrdo> prolly somehow with grep or something but i'm not good at this yet
[02:42] <lupine_85> oh, that's easy :). sed will do it
[02:42] <mrbrdo> dpkg -i pack.deb
[02:43] <lupine_85> erm, not sed, sorry
[02:43] <Homer> Ertain: or in konq, right click "Install Package"
[02:43] <Ertain> I tried that; it says that it would over-write a file.  However, I'm sure that in this case it would be okay.
[02:43] <lupine_85> you can use head to get the first line of the file, and compare it using standard means
[02:44] <mrbrdo> LeeJunFan: you said u're running XGL right.. if you change the desktop wallpaper of one desktop, does it change on all? cause it does here, and it's weird.. my taskbar shows all windows on all desktops too, and it's confusing.. doesn't feel right.
[02:44] <coreymon77> hey guys
[02:44] <coreymon77> whats a good player that can play mp4s
[02:44] <LeeJunFan> if [ $(head -1 [filename] ) == "string" ]  ; then do this ; fi
[02:44] <mrbrdo> thanks
[02:44] <LeeJunFan> err, I think I mixed some C comparisons . hehe
[02:44] <mrbrdo> is it only then, or then do? :P
[02:44] <LeeJunFan> I don't know if it's ==
[02:44] <Homer> coreymon77: amarok
[02:45] <mrbrdo> it's = i think
[02:45] <mrbrdo> i'll see
[02:45] <LeeJunFan> just =
[02:45] <LeeJunFan> man test
[02:45] <mrbrdo> LeeJunFan: can u read my question on XGL a few lines up.. it's kinda important :)
[02:45] <LeeJunFan> just then
[02:45] <Homer> what breaks in KDE if you use compiz
[02:45] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: yeah, mine acts the same.
[02:46] <Homer> I can't actually believe you switch window manager and everything works normal
[02:46] <pierreth> I found a solution to my problem
[02:46] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: I think it's mostly because kde isn't compiz aware so it only sees xgl as one work area.
[02:46] <mrbrdo> LeeJunFan: is that a bug? it doesn't seem normal. it's not like on gnome
[02:46] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: which explains why the taskbar does that too.
[02:46] <mrbrdo> oh
[02:46] <mrbrdo> LeeJunFan: is it possible to use KWin instead of CGWD?
[02:47] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: no, it sucks.
[02:47] <Homer> when I asked in kde they said no
[02:47] <Homer> until kde4
[02:47] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: it's doesn't work with xgl - cpu to 100% and pretty much useless.
[02:47] <Homer> KWin will work natively with xgl in KDE4
[02:47] <LeeJunFan> I know I like the kwin stuff being able to set so many things such as window position, size and sticky state on open.
[02:48] <mrbrdo> LeeJunFan: i see
[02:48] <mrbrdo> LeeJunFan: yeah i like that too
[02:48] <alex_yo> how to patch the launch button?
[02:48] <LeeJunFan> Yeah, I had to go hunting at skins.be to find out what I wanted on top and bottom of my cube last night :)
[02:48] <mrbrdo> what does that do alex_yo?
[02:48] <Homer> lol
[02:49] <mrbrdo> LeeJunFan: lol :)
[02:49] <mrbrdo> LeeJunFan: what did u use?
[02:49] <mrbrdo> babes?
[02:49] <troughton> can some one please tell me how to get my mouse working on my laptop
[02:49] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: yep.
[02:49] <alex_yo> nothing
[02:50] <mrbrdo> troughton: what kind of mouse is it? synaptic or USB mouse or what?
[02:50] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: go check out skins.be, nice clean photos. Safe for work, NSFW ads though.
[02:50] <mrbrdo> yeah i know the site :)
[02:50] <troughton> touch pad on laptop built in
[02:50] <mrbrdo> do u have a special kernel or something? it works out-of-the-box for me
[02:51] <LeeJunFan> I wonder if any of my neighbors are going to be on datelines "To catch a predator" tonight . hehehe
[02:51] <troughton> it keeps working on its own cliking buttons then stoping alltogether and i dont have access to kubuntu
[02:52] <Homer> my touchpad worked out of the box
[02:52] <bobbyyu> How do you save to a log in Konversation
[02:52] <Homer> in fact it more then worked
[02:52] <bobbyyu> ?
[02:52] <mrbrdo> troughton: sorry no idea
[02:52] <troughton> ok thanks
[02:52] <Admiral_Chicago> anyone know the the partion editor for KDE?
[02:53] <Homer> gparted? :P
[02:53] <Admiral_Chicago> is it QTparted?
[02:53] <Homer> oh
[02:53] <Admiral_Chicago> Homer, thats GNOME
[02:53] <Homer> maybe
[02:53] <Homer> I use gparted on kde
[02:53] <Homer> heh
[02:53] <mrbrdo> LeeJunFan_away: if [ $(head -1 ../.asoundrc) == "#!/bin/bash" ]  ; then --- ./snd-switch.sh: line 3: [: too many arguments
[02:53] <Admiral_Chicago> so do I
[02:54] <Admiral_Chicago> its the one thats installed on the kubuntu CD
[02:55] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm well QTparted uses the QT base...
[02:56] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: one =
[02:57] <Homer> I guess it is not the "offical" kde one, if one even exists
[02:57] <n00btard> does anyone know why when i install the nvidia drivers it changes my card type to an ATI in the xorg.conf?
[02:57] <jpiccolo_> my apache server can see my web page but no other computer can, anyone know whats wrong?
[02:58] <Admiral_Chicago> n00btard, no idea why that happens
[02:59] <Admiral_Chicago> how did you make it an ATI driver
[02:59] <n00btard> i didnt
[02:59] <Admiral_Chicago> and X wouldn't launch if it had an ATI driver
[02:59] <n00btard> i did the sudo enable nvidia crap and it changed it to an ATI card
[02:59] <n00btard> after installing nvidia-glx
[02:59] <Admiral_Chicago> n00btard, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:59] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: I just ran this to test it - this worked. if [ $(head -1 .Xsession) = '#!/bin/sh' ]  ; then echo yes ; fi
[03:00] <n00btard> ok
[03:00] <Admiral_Chicago> just hit enter. it'll autco configure it
[03:00] <Admiral_Chicago> then open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:00] <Admiral_Chicago> and tell me what it says
[03:01] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: ah, it's the quotes, since you have ! in there it's screwing up, using single quotes will work for #!/bin/bash
[03:02] <n00btard> it says what it is
[03:02] <mrbrdo> !ksu
[03:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:02] <mrbrdo> LeeJunFan: nm i got it working
[03:02] <Creedence> hey guys,... I am having trouble with smb4k
[03:02] <mrbrdo> !gksu
[03:02] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using sudo {guiapp}
[03:02] <Admiral_Chicago> Creedence, #samba
[03:02] <mrbrdo> hm
[03:02] <mrbrdo> what was that one
[03:02] <mrbrdo> again
[03:02] <mrbrdo> for kde
[03:02] <mrbrdo> :P
[03:02] <Creedence> cool, thanks!!!
[03:02] <Admiral_Chicago> err kdesu for KDE
[03:02] <Admiral_Chicago> mrbrdo, kdesu
[03:03] <mrbrdo> aha thx :)
[03:03] <LeeJunFan> !kdesu
[03:03] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[03:04] <mrbrdo> is it possible to display a window in KDE with some text with an sh script?
[03:04] <mrbrdo> like a notification window
[03:04] <LeeJunFan> !kdialog
[03:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdialog - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:05] <LeeJunFan> !info kdialog
[03:05] <ubotu> Package kdialog does not exist in any distro I know
[03:05] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: owell, kdialog will do what you want I think.
[03:05] <mrbrdo> thanks
[03:05] <coreymon77> whats a good player for mp4 videos
[03:05] <MasterEvilAce> test
[03:06] <MasterEvilAce> I accidentally went away
[03:07] <MasterEvilAce> how do i.. yeah. come back
[03:07] <serishema> lol
[03:07] <Admiral_Chicago> coreymon77, vlc
[03:07] <MasterEvilAce> Ah, CTRL+SHIFT+A
[03:07] <travis> does anyone know how to change the cpu cache on Kubuntu?
[03:07] <MasterEvilAce> wait no that doesn't work
[03:08] <serishema> i didn't know that was modifyable in software!
[03:08] <brodyn> Im bored any sugestioins
[03:08] <serishema> try and get network booting to work.. that's fun...
[03:09] <serishema> not.
[03:10] <MasterEvilAce> what is the point of Katapult
[03:10] <coreymon77> admiral: vlc what
[03:11] <coreymon77> just plain vlc?
[03:11] <Admiral_Chicago> yeo
[03:11] <Admiral_Chicago> MasterEvilAce, iut launches applications, finds songs, calculator
[03:11] <Admiral_Chicago> so hit alt space and type "fir" and it'll show you firefox
[03:12] <Admiral_Chicago> hit enter and it lanches
[03:12] <Admiral_Chicago> no use for a mouse if you are typing and don't want to move your hand
[03:12] <Admiral_Chicago> or type a song and it'll find it in amarok
[03:12] <MasterEvilAce> oh snap
[03:12] <MasterEvilAce> that's cool!
[03:13] <Admiral_Chicago> yea i like it
[03:13] <MasterEvilAce> looks hot, too
[03:14] <mrbrdo> em, how to make ALSA reload my ~/.asoundrc ? i tried /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart but it didn't make it reread it
[03:14] <crimsun> /etc/init.d/alsa-utils has nothing to do with it
[03:15] <mrbrdo> rather tell me what does ;)
[03:15] <crimsun> alsa-native/aware applications parse ~/.asoundrc once per startup.
[03:15] <mrbrdo> well, amarok didn't do that
[03:15] <mrbrdo> it's not native tho i think
[03:15] <mrbrdo> but how to make it work for apps such as this?
[03:16] <crimsun> amarok should be compiled with an engine (either xine or GSt)
[03:16] <crimsun> both the xine and GSt engines support ALSA natively
[03:16] <mrbrdo> crimsun: fact is, i change .asoundrc, close amarok, open amarok, it still uses settings from before
[03:18] <crimsun> mrbrdo: you haven't given any details
[03:18] <mrbrdo> it's a newly installed system, i didn't change anything..
[03:18] <mrbrdo> it's xine based
[03:18] <crimsun> all you've said is that what you expect to happen doesn't, but we have no idea what engine you're using, whether sound works in other apps, etc.
[03:18] <mrbrdo> what else can i say
[03:19] <mrbrdo> i don't know if it works in other apps.. i just want alsa to reload the config :)
[03:19] <mrbrdo> i don't know which other app to try, that's what i mean
[03:19] <n00btard> how can i add values to my refresh rate? (i want a 60 refresh rate, but the only selection is 75)
[03:22] <n00btard> k...
[03:23] <n00btard> anyone?
[03:25] <coreymon77> its not working
[03:25] <coreymon77> i cant get anything to play mp4s
[03:25] <crimsun> mrbrdo: is sound audible with ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*up.wav''?
[03:25] <Lynoure> n00btard: you can by editing the configuration file, it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:25] <sledge> I'm on a dual head setup and my mouse pointer is garbled on the 2nd screen. Any ideas?
[03:25] <n00btard> i know, but idk what values to put
[03:26] <Lynoure> n00btard: Try the values you want,,, if they do not work, they will not be used
[03:26] <mrbrdo> crimsun: yeah it works on the right card by doing that
[03:27] <mrbrdo> crimsun: but all other apps still use the other sound card
[03:27] <mrbrdo> crimsun: like konqueror
[03:27] <crimsun> mrbrdo: ``asoundconf list''
[03:27] <mrbrdo> yeah it shows all my cards
[03:27] <crimsun> mrbrdo: no, list them.
[03:27] <mrbrdo> V8235
[03:27] <mrbrdo> modem
[03:27] <mrbrdo> Audio
[03:28] <mrbrdo> last one is a USB card
[03:28] <crimsun> mrbrdo: did you create your own ~/.asoundrc ?
[03:28] <mrbrdo> yeah
[03:28] <mrbrdo> i made a switcher even
[03:28] <mrbrdo> that switches the file
[03:28] <mrbrdo> just not sure how to make it take effect
[03:28] <crimsun> remove the ~./asoundr*
[03:28] <mrbrdo> why?
[03:28] <crimsun> use ``asoundconf set-default-card Audio'' instead
[03:28] <CVirus> I got pure Kubuntu installed ... how can I install ALL the rest of KDE ?
[03:29] <mrbrdo> crimsun: i need the rc file for my surround
[03:29] <mrbrdo> can i just make asoundrc not set the default
[03:29] <crimsun> mrbrdo: specific routing you mean?
[03:29] <mrbrdo> crimsun: not sure what you mean
[03:29] <mrbrdo> crimsun: it's just a few settings for the USB card
[03:29] <crimsun> mrbrdo: such as?
[03:30] <mrbrdo> !google ubuntu USB 5.1 howto
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google ubuntu USB 5.1 howto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:30] <mrbrdo> eh
[03:30] <mrbrdo> well anyway, some surround settings
[03:30] <mrbrdo> does it matter rly?
[03:30] <crimsun> yes.
[03:30] <crimsun> does plug:surround51 not work correctly?
[03:30] <mrbrdo> i didn't know there was one..
[03:31] <mrbrdo> i need it to use dmix too, ofc
[03:31] <crimsun> sure, then you'll need a customised asoundrc that we don't provide
[03:31] <crimsun> (I didn't enable dmix for usb-audio)
[03:31] <crimsun> pastebin your ~/.asoundrc and tell me precisely what you want to occur and what actually occurs
[03:32] <mrbrdo> ok sure
[03:32] <mrbrdo> sec
[03:33] <mrbrdo> there ya go http://paste.uni.cc/10288
[03:33] <mrbrdo> what i want is, to be able to switch the cards (asoundconf is ok with me), and have dmix and 5.1 set for usb like it is now
[03:34] <crimsun> asoundconf has only a limited default seed and doesn't do what you want
[03:34] <pierreth> I have a fantom image on my screen
[03:35] <mrbrdo> crimsun: well i can change the .asoundrc file, but i need a way to make it take effect then
[03:35] <crimsun> just rename pcm.!default -> pcm.dmixer
[03:35] <pierreth> The menu bar of Firefox is always there
[03:35] <mrbrdo> crimsun: what will that do then?
[03:35] <mrbrdo> i mean, how will it know it's for the usb card?
[03:36] <crimsun> mrbrdo: it'll make all applications use default:0 (card0 dmixed) by default
[03:36] <pierreth> It is like a permanent mark on my screen
[03:36] <pierreth> is my screen damaged?
[03:36] <mrbrdo> crimsun: but the usb card is card5
[03:36] <mrbrdo> and that already works, but how to change it later..
[03:36] <Admiral_Chicago> pierreth, possibly
[03:37] <mrbrdo> my sound works fine, i just can't change the card without relogging
[03:37] <pierreth> Admiral_Chicago: Is there something to do?
[03:37] <Admiral_Chicago> not that I know off. maybe get a new monitor
[03:37] <Admiral_Chicago> you can't open it or anything, thats really unsafe
[03:37] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: you might also want to put csm in your compiz how-to for the configuration manager for compiz.
[03:38] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: to install the csm package that is.
[03:38] <pierreth> Admiral_Chicago: too much time with the same image is dangerous?
[03:38] <mrbrdo> LeeJunFan: i did..
[03:39] <mrbrdo> LeeJunFan: quote: sudo aptitude install compiz compiz-plugins csm cgwd cgwd-themes cgwd-themes-extra :)
[03:39] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: yah, I see it now - sorry I missed it. I got a friend of mine following your how-to right now.
[03:39] <Admiral_Chicago> pierreth, not that its dangerous
[03:39] <mrbrdo> cool, tell me how it works out :)
[03:39] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm saying you can't repair it
[03:39] <mrbrdo> if the repos are back up working again
[03:39] <mrbrdo> else he just has to download all the packs.. u know
[03:40] <LeeJunFan> mrbrdo: yeah, he's amd-64 too.
[03:40] <Admiral_Chicago> repos are working
[03:40] <pierreth> Admiral_Chicago: How can this happended?
[03:40] <ninjakttty> can someone help me with a weird opengl problem, everything I try to display through it only half shows up as visible, could someone maybe point me in the right direction to fix it?
[03:40] <Admiral_Chicago> pierreth, no idea
[03:40] <mrbrdo> crimsun: so, any idea?
[03:41] <crimsun> mrbrdo: you can't have dmixed 5.1 atm. It's a specific override.
[03:41] <Lynoure> ninjakttty: i have read about that somewhere once but have no recollection where
[03:41] <mrbrdo> crimsun: but it works
[03:41] <crimsun> works meaning?
[03:41] <mrbrdo> crimsun: i get surround sound, dmixed :P
[03:41] <mrbrdo> well, channels are cloned
[03:41] <mrbrdo> but i hear on all speakers
[03:42] <ninjakttty> meh...
[03:42] <crimsun> mrbrdo: right, that's not the same thing
[03:43] <crimsun> mrbrdo: do you want /all/ output to use "dmixed 5.1" on your usb?
[03:43] <mrbrdo> crimsun: it's what i want though.. but that's not even my problem.. i just want to be able to switch the sound card "on the fly"
[03:43] <mrbrdo> crimsun: yes, but only on my usb
[03:43] <crimsun> mrbrdo: what do you mean by "on the fly"?
[03:43] <ninjakttty> lynoure do you have any idea what I could search for to bring up relevant results?
[03:44] <mrbrdo> i'm happy with the way it is now, i just wanna switch the cards without relog
[03:44] <mrbrdo> without relogging.
[03:44] <crimsun> the asoundrc changes are effective on restart of the alsa app(s)
[03:45] <mrbrdo> well, if i restart amarok (xine), it still uses the usb card even though i changed .asoundrc to use card 0
[03:45] <Max_-> any counter-advices on this setup for my school and work laptop? : 2x 100GB in software RAID1 with some linux distro on it all.
[03:45] <mrbrdo> crimsun: hm now it works.. well, ok i guess
[03:46] <crimsun> mrbrdo: heh.
[03:46] <lynx> heh
[03:46] <mrbrdo> maybe i just minimized it before :)
[03:46] <crimsun> there's a method to my madness, truly.
[03:46] <lynx> wat
[03:47] <Telroth_Plushie|> mrbrdo, in amarok
[03:48] <Telroth_Plushie|> are you using alsa ?
[03:49] <mrbrdo> xine
[03:49] <Telroth_Plushie|> yes
[03:49] <Telroth_Plushie|> but are you using xine to output through alsa ?
[03:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> arhg, it's probably on auto detect
[03:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> here
[03:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> settings -> engine
[03:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> set the output plugin to "alsa"
[03:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> click ok
[03:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> and see if it still works
[03:50] <mrbrdo> can't
[03:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> ?
[03:50] <mrbrdo> u can't set alsa as the output plug to amarok
[03:50] <mrbrdo> only xine and one other one
[03:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> not engine
[03:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> engine = xine
[03:50] <mrbrdo> oh
[03:51] <Telroth_Plushie|> xine can output to multiple sound systems
[03:51] <Telroth_Plushie|> tell xine to output to alsa
[03:51] <Telroth_Plushie|> and see if it still works
[03:51] <Telroth_Plushie|> if it does, i can show you how to change the card
[03:51] <mrbrdo> it works now anyway, even on autodetect
[03:51] <Telroth_Plushie|> i know it works
[03:51] <Telroth_Plushie|> but you can't control the card from auto detect ;)
[03:51] <mrbrdo> works to switch too :)
[03:52] <Telroth_Plushie|> ?
[03:52] <mrbrdo> control as in?
[03:52] <Telroth_Plushie|> defien
[03:52] <Telroth_Plushie|> *define
[03:52] <Telroth_Plushie|> with "auto detect", you can't tell it which card to send sound to
[03:52] <mrbrdo> well i switch the cards by changing ~/.asoundrc
[03:52] <mrbrdo> and it seems to work now
[03:52] <Telroth_Plushie|> oh
[03:52] <Telroth_Plushie|> well if it's working no need to do anything then
[03:53] <mrbrdo> yep, thanks anyway though
[03:54] <Admiral_Chicago> anyone on Edgy in here?
[03:55] <mrbrdo> i was in the morning
[03:55] <mrbrdo> why
[03:55] <Admiral_Chicago> mrbrdo, need to do a test
[03:55] <Admiral_Chicago> to try to duplicate a bug
[03:56] <mrbrdo> ah, sry i replaced it already with dapper
[03:56] <Admiral_Chicago> mrbrdo, dang
[03:59] <Telroth_Plushie|> i'm on edgy
[03:59] <Telroth_Plushie|> as long as it doesn't kill xorg
[03:59] <Telroth_Plushie|> i'll test
[03:59] <Admiral_Chicago> Telroth_Plushie|, thanks
[04:00] <Telroth_Plushie|> edgy + xgl + comiz
[04:00] <Telroth_Plushie|> *compiz
[04:00] <Admiral_Chicago> http://gemal.dk/browserspy/basic.html
[04:00] <Admiral_Chicago> same here
[04:00] <Admiral_Chicago> what version does Konqueror say its on
[04:00] <Admiral_Chicago> i have Dapper
[04:01] <Admiral_Chicago> even though i am on Edgy, Firefox shows me i'm on Edgy
[04:03] <serishema> haha go me. I was compiling a kernel to remote boot
[04:03] <serishema> and i some how forgot to compile in input core support
[04:03] <serishema> so no keyboard, no mouse
[04:06] <serishema> what would be really impressive though is booting over wifi
[04:08] <Admiral_Chicago> Telroth_Plushie|, thanks a lot
[04:09] <Admiral_Chicago> gotta go now
[04:09] <momal> Anyone know how I can get |http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/base/linux-image-2.6.15-26-amd64-k8| that to show in apt-get? because it doesn't and im pretty sure the repos are set up correctly :S
[04:09] <Admiral_Chicago> momal, apt-cache search
[04:10] <Admiral_Chicago> or get the key possibly
[04:10] <Admiral_Chicago> ask someone else please i'm about to go afk
[04:11] <momal> key hmm i'll try updateing the key for it would have thought would already be there thanks
[04:14] <momal> damn.. didn't work even after key update :(
[04:20] <unix_infidel> anyone here using vim7 debs or compile vim7 on Kubuntu dapper?
[04:20] <unix_infidel> it seems they didnt compile colorschemes along with 6.4 for Ubuntu
[04:22] <Max_->  hummmm.. how do you get the execute prompt in gnome?!?!
[04:23] <unix_infidel> anyone?
[04:23] <Jucato> unix_infidel: sorry... not a vim user...
[04:23] <Jucato> Max_-: what do you mean execute prompt? and in GNOME?
[04:23] <Max_-> atl-f2, sorry
[04:24] <momal> unix_infidel: try going into #ubuntu and ask there as well ^_-
[04:24] <unix_infidel> momal: actually it wouldnt matter if i went into #ubuntu #kubuntu or #debian.
[04:24] <unix_infidel> its all the same package...
[04:24] <Telroth_Plushie|> unix_infidel,
[04:24] <DaSkreech> What's the Open source racing game?
[04:24] <Telroth_Plushie|> it does
[04:24] <momal> nar just there is more peopel in that channel then here :)
[04:24] <Telroth_Plushie|> if you're using gnome, go to #ubuntu
[04:25] <Telroth_Plushie|> i don't use gnome
[04:25] <unix_infidel> Telroth_Plushie|: i'm using kubuntu, and no i'm not using gnome.
[04:25] <Telroth_Plushie|> because i'm using kubuntu
[04:25] <unix_infidel> Telroth_Plushie|: also, vim is not gnome specific.
[04:25] <Jucato> guys, I think you're referring to Max_-
[04:25] <Telroth_Plushie|> unix_infidel, err, my bad
[04:25] <Telroth_Plushie|> unix_infidel, mixed you and Max_- up
[04:25] <klerfayt> DaSkreech: it a racing game with source available
[04:25] <unix_infidel> i wonder how that could've happened?
[04:25] <klerfayt> DaSkreech: *it is
[04:26] <DaSkreech> klerfayt: Not *A* Racing game
[04:26] <momal> Can someone tell me a repo to add that will get me everything in the ubuntu archieve?... because mine wont show the amd64-k8 kernels :S
[04:26] <DaSkreech> *THE* Racing Game
[04:26] <seer> does anyone know how to create /dev/md0 so that it is still there after a reboot?
[04:26] <DeadSouL> hello everyone
[04:26] <seer> trying to setup a raid after install but md0 does not exist
[04:26] <klerfayt> DaSkreech: so what is The open source racing game?
[04:26] <DaSkreech> klerfayt: I don't know
[04:27] <DaSkreech>  the open source strategy game seems to be Wesnoth
[04:27] <DaSkreech> The Open source Shooter seems to be tremulous
[04:27] <DaSkreech> I wanted The open source racing game
[04:27] <klerfayt> DaSkreech: I see; you want to play open source racing game?
[04:27] <klerfayt> DaSkreech: try Torcs
[04:27] <smaggard> hiya
[04:27] <DaSkreech> Ok Torcs thanks :)
[04:28] <momal> Hmm... anyone good with repos ?
[04:28] <seer> is there anyone here that can help me get my raid working?
[04:29] <smaggard> hmm, im wondering if anyone here can help me figure out how to get amarok to play shoutcast streams :D
[04:29] <DaSkreech> momal:  What are you
[04:29] <DaSkreech> searching for>
[04:29] <momal> http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/base/linux-image-2.6.15-26-amd64-k8
[04:29] <momal> im trying to get that
[04:29] <momal> but it doesn't show in apt-get nor adept
[04:31] <smaggard> hmm maybe your repositories arent setup?
[04:31] <smaggard> iunno, im pretty new to kubuntu, im switching from gentoo
[04:31] <DaSkreech> momal: What can you see in apt-get?
[04:31] <momal> thats what i think but what else can i add to them i'll upload my sources.list file. umm nothing to do with that kernel lol
[04:32] <smaggard> hmm
[04:33] <smaggard> iunno id hate to tell you something and srew you over so..
[04:33] <smaggard> screw*
[04:34] <momal> say anything tbh anything that might help is good
[04:34] <momal> at the moment i have to reload nvidia drivers everytime i reboot to start up X
[04:34] <momal> so i dont' think it can get anyworse lol
[04:34] <smaggard> lol
[04:34] <smaggard> you should be able to add something to your startup scripts to load the drivers auto.
[04:34] <smaggard> lemme check on that
[04:35] <smaggard> like in your xorg.conf do you have the nvidia drive selected?
[04:35] <momal> X says about a api mismatch between the X module and nvidia kernel but as soon as i run the installer again it works fine till next reboot >_<
[04:35] <momal> http://pastebin.ca/180373 <-- thats my sources.list
[04:36] <smaggard> have you noticed you have some things duplicated?
[04:36] <smaggard> like your universe and multiverse, its best to have only 1 set
[04:36] <smaggard> i THINK, but im not sure dang it lol
[04:37] <momal> lol thats just what this site posted out to use so im using it lol
[04:37] <smaggard> ah ok
[04:37] <smaggard> well those addresses may not be hosting the package you need.
[04:37] <momal> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic <-- that site put the thingo out.
[04:38] <momal> hmm wouldn't they all if they are mirrios O_O
[04:38] <smaggard> r u running kubuntu or ubuntu btw?
[04:38] <momal> kubuntu
[04:38] <momal> but the kernel should be on either
[04:38] <smaggard> if they are mirrors yes but i know for a fact some servers have some thing and others dont because i had to add some servers for a few packages.
[04:39] <smaggard> what are you trying to do?
[04:39] <Jucato> mirrors are supposed to have exactly the same things.
[04:39] <smaggard> mirrors that are true will yes
[04:39] <Jucato> except that some have trouble updating, for reasons unknown
[04:39] <momal> hmm time to add the ones without the au. then and see
[04:39] <smaggard> but not all servers are considered mirrors.
[04:39] <Jucato> for example, au. does not have dapper-backports last I checked
[04:40] <DaSkreech> momal: Just chekcing did you do an update?
[04:40] <momal> yea of course :p
[04:41] <DaSkreech> Just checking :)
[04:41] <momal> hmm added the urls wiuthout au and updated and still not there :(
[04:42] <momal> can anyone see if htat package is listed in theirs?
[04:42] <Jucato> for me it isn't
[04:42] <smaggard> ill check
[04:42] <smaggard> wats the package name?
[04:43] <momal> grrr... why would that even have the kernel if it doesn't exist anywhere >_<
[04:43] <momal> linux-image-2.6.15-26-amd64-k8
[04:43] <momal> or rather any kernels with amd64-k8 in them
[04:44] <smaggard> wouldnt u need to install the 64 kubuntu to get the 64 kernel?
[04:44] <DaSkreech> momal: You could check packages.ubuntu.com
[04:44] <Makro2> any tool to reapir a hard disk?
[04:44] <smaggard> nope i only have 32 stuff.
[04:44] <Makro2> reapir=repair
[04:44] <DaSkreech> Makro2: I like the Hammer
[04:44] <momal> DaSkreech: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/base/linux-image-2.6.15-26-amd64-k8
[04:44] <smaggard> hammers are good.
[04:45] <DaSkreech> momal: So why don't you just download that one? :)
[04:45] <Makro2> DaSkreech: it will be useful on a hard disk that disappear from the bios??
[04:45] <momal> umm yea but i was told i could just install the kernel and it would work fine... they said i was able to just change my 32bit to 64bit without having to format everything
[04:45] <DaSkreech> Makro2: A hammer is always useful in releiveing strees based on a hard ware problem
[04:45] <DaSkreech> Or a large Rock
[04:45] <smaggard> whoaaah
[04:45] <momal> last time i used .debs on their own talk about big chaos there lol!
[04:45] <smaggard> all of your packages will still be 32
[04:46] <Makro2> ahmm..i need something thati can use, i `m  not joking
[04:46] <smaggard> hmmmmmmmm
[04:47] <Makro2> so again, any toll for reapir a hard disk?? speacially one who disappears from the bios
[04:47] <Makro2> toll=tool
[04:47] <Makro2> reapir=repair
[04:47] <smaggard> hm have you tried this?: http://www.start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=170&Itemid=70
[04:47] <Makro2> hello
[04:48] <Makro2> i have a hard disk who just disappear from the bios
[04:48] <Makro2> any tool for repair it?
[04:48] <Telroth_Plushie|> uh
[04:48] <Telroth_Plushie|> it's not showing in the bios at all?
[04:48] <smaggard> if you cant see the hard drive how can you fix it with software?
[04:48] <smaggard> ur controller is cracked or somethin
[04:48] <Telroth_Plushie|> if it doesn't show in bios then either cable is unplugged
[04:48] <Telroth_Plushie|> or it doesn't have power
[04:49] <Telroth_Plushie|> or the controller died
[04:49] <smaggard> OR its broke
[04:49] <smaggard> lol
[04:49] <Makro2> Telroth_Plushie: not shwing nothing, i have to press f1 at start and change the boot parameters manually for start from the second drive
[04:49] <Makro2> ahmm so bad news
[04:49] <Telroth_Plushie|> Makro2, oh
[04:49] <Makro2> my disk is dead
[04:49] <Makro2> :(
[04:49] <Makro2> damn
[04:49] <momal> I have a kubuntu 64bit 6.06LTS cd... but is it possible to install it and not loose any of my kde settings and files i have located around and other programs installed?
[04:49] <Telroth_Plushie|> so you can boot the drive if you use f1 and so it manually?
[04:50] <DaSkreech> Makro2: All BIOSes or just one?
[04:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> momal, do you have an earlier version installed already ?
[04:50] <momal> at the moment I have 6.06LTS 32bit
[04:50] <Makro2> DaSkreeech: just one
[04:50] <momal> and i want it to 64bit
[04:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> [errr, sifting arches] 
[04:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> i can't help with that.
[04:51] <DaSkreech> Makro2: Have you checked if there is an update for your bios?
[04:51] <smaggard> just to let you know theres a LOT of people talking about how 64 has some problems still
[04:51] <Makro2> DaSkreech: nope, but the disk was fine and usable until 30 minutes ago
[04:52] <momal> well then can you tell me what the best kernel to use for an amd x2 4200 that isn't 64bit.. because the 386 kernel just makes me install nvidia drivers everytime i reboot
[04:52] <DaSkreech> Makro2: Ahh Check cables then
[04:52] <smaggard> use 686
[04:52] <momal> isn't that for P's though ?
[04:52] <smaggard> lol no
[04:52] <DaSkreech> 686 crashes like a knock kneed drunk
[04:52] <Makro2> DaSkreeech: yeah, and if not comes to live...then ...controller is dead...and so my disk :/
[04:53] <DaSkreech> Makro2: Did something else happen you want to mention?
[04:53] <smaggard> wait
[04:53] <Makro2> DaSkreech:yes, the puter freezes when i run a synth program
[04:53] <smaggard> yes 686 is only for intels
[04:53] <momal> yea thought so lol!
[04:53] <DaSkreech> Makro2: Started 30 mins ago?
[04:53] <smaggard> wait
[04:53] <Makro2> DaSkreech:so i shutdown  the machine, and when it start again...no primary hard disk
[04:54] <DaSkreech> Hmm And of course it doesn't turn up in the BIOS
[04:54] <momal> it lists amd k7 stuff but I don't think that will go well with a newer amd
[04:54] <Makro2> DaSkreech:yeah, you bet
[04:55] <smaggard> hmm
[04:55] <DaSkreech> Makro2: Are you on it now?
[04:55] <smaggard> i just used the x86 version even tho i have an amd64
[04:55] <Makro2> no, i `m using the second master
[04:55] <DaSkreech> ...
[04:55] <DaSkreech> So you are on the machine now?
[04:55] <Makro2> DaSkreech:yeah
[04:56] <Makro2> DaSkreech:and i `m unable to get access to the primary hard disk
[04:56] <DaSkreech> Hmm well I'd pull out the wires and puthem back in to check if that's the problem
[04:56] <smaggard> shutup  with your stupid hard drive and google how to troubleshoot
[04:56] <Makro2> DaSkreech:yep, gonna do that
[04:57] <DaSkreech> ok Kool
[04:57] <momal> yea but what happened originally I had the HD's (I have 2) in a p4 2.6ghz, 768mb ram, 5700FX... and now i just moved the HD's over to a amd x2 4200, 2gb ram, gf7800gt... and it was all good till i updated the nvidia drivers and now X has a problem each reboot and when i tried to use older drivers still does the same thing :S.
[04:57] <smaggard> ok im gonna get some food D
[04:57] <Makro2> some ppl here need some civilization classes
[04:57] <Makro2> hehe
[04:57] <Makro2> shutting down
[04:58] <smaggard> some people here need to learn how to rtfm and look for themselves
[04:58] <XTorchedX> some people in here could recite the fucking manual
[04:58] <smaggard> anyways
[04:59] <momal> hm woudl it be wise to update to 2.6.15-27? im on 2.6.15-23 at the moment
[04:59] <Jucato> *cough*Code of Conduct*cough*
[04:59] <smaggard> hmm hmm
[04:59] <smaggard> ok for real going to get some food this time :D
[04:59] <smaggard> brb
[05:00] <Admiral_Chicago> momal, yes
[05:00] <Admiral_Chicago> its a really big update iirc
[05:00] <Jucato> momal: if you do update, make sure that everything else related to the kernel is updated
[05:00] <Admiral_Chicago> check out the changelog if you want
[05:00] <Jucato> meaning: linux-headers, linux-restricted-modules, etc
[05:00] <momal> garr going to run full system upgrade... it says my xserver needs updating maybe thats the damn prob >_<
[05:00] <momal> yea that was all listed to be updated as well
[05:01] <Momal|afk> going to get some food while it updates going to take a bit 200mb >_< thats like half an hour
[05:02] <Admiral_Chicago> my update is taking a few hours...
[05:02] <Admiral_Chicago> the connection sucks here
[05:03] <Makro2> DaSkreech: normal boot
[05:03] <DaSkreech> No issues?
[05:04] <Makro2> DaSkreech: it seems normal
[05:04] <Makro2> DaSkreech: i can see the disk
[05:04] <DaSkreech> *shrugs*
[05:04] <Makro2> DaSkreech: no warnings on booting
[05:04] <Makro2> DaSkreech: :)
[05:04] <DaSkreech> Heehee
[05:04] <Makro2> DaSkreech: hehe
[05:05] <Makro2> DaSkreech: yeah  a bit more and i was in hell for a nite
[05:06] <Makro2> DaSkreech: just unplug and plug the thing again..and it works
[05:07] <Makro2> it a wonderful...wonderful liiiive...
[05:09] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee!
[05:09] <Makro2> DaSkreech: ah ,sorry, i just forgot to say thanks!!!
[05:09] <Jucato> g'day Hobbsee!
[05:09] <DaSkreech> Makro2: No Problem
[05:09] <Makro2> DaSkreech: now i `m the uncivilized
[05:09] <Makro2> DaSkreech: hehe ok
[05:10] <Hobbsee> hi DaSkreech, Jucato
[05:12] <DaSkreech> Makro2: No Problem
[05:15] <serishema> i'm trying to configure a machine running ubuntu to boot from the network
[05:15] <alejandro> helo anyne here kbnow ho to set up a network with kubuntu linux
[05:16] <serishema> what kind of network services?
[05:16] <alejandro> i dont know
[05:16] <alejandro> i just want to learn
[05:16] <serishema> do you know what you want to acheive?
[05:16] <alejandro> how to create a netwoerk or a lan
[05:16] <serishema> but after mounting the root file system i get mount:only root can do that about 5 times
[05:16] <alejandro> yeah i know
[05:16] <serishema> okay.. what would you want to use that lan for.
[05:16] <alejandro>  i want tro hook up my windows network with my kubuntu klan
[05:17] <serishema> oh right.. you need to install samba.
[05:17] <alejandro> how do i do that
[05:17] <alejandro> ok\were kan i get samba
[05:17] <serishema> open up adept and look for the samba package
[05:17] <serishema> it will download and install it for you
[05:17] <alejandro> is that in
[05:17] <alejandro> the storage
[05:17] <alejandro> menu
[05:17] <shawn> isn't samba installed by default?
[05:18] <DaSkreech> alejandro: Press Alt+Space
[05:18] <DaSkreech> Type adept
[05:19] <alejandro> ok
[05:19] <alejandro> thks
[05:19] <DaSkreech> shawn: You can browse but not server folders
[05:19] <shawn> ah ok
[05:20] <alejandro> it just says
[05:20] <alejandro> ctapult but it does ntihng
[05:20] <alejandro> a pop up sayas katapult
[05:20] <alejandro> but doews nothing
[05:20] <DaSkreech> alejandro: Is it still there?
[05:20] <DaSkreech> Sir_Homer: Doh!!
[05:21] <DaSkreech> alejandro: It should go away if you start typing in Konversation
[05:21] <alejandro> iam soory
[05:21] <alejandro>  i am stil here
[05:22] <dcurtis_> alejandro: that's a reliefe
[05:22] <alejandro> hehe
[05:22] <DaSkreech> alejandro: Press Alt+Space and when katapult comes up type adept
[05:22] <DaSkreech> Heehee
[05:22] <DaSkreech> Then press enter
[05:23] <DaSkreech> brb
[05:24] <arunkale> hey people
[05:24] <arunkale> does anyone know where ktorrent saves files by default?
[05:24] <alejandro> i have no ideeeea
[05:25] <arunkale> got it, thanks
[05:26] <alejandro> bye i got to go guiys
[05:26] <arunkale> see ya
[05:31] <jamadagni> hello
[05:31] <jamadagni> when i attempt to do sudo apt-get install fakeroot
[05:31] <jamadagni> i get sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Sep 23 14:16:37 2006
[05:31] <jamadagni> recently i installed edgy on another partititon
[05:31] <jamadagni> and apparently it botched up my clcok
[05:31] <jamadagni> i only recently discovered this and fixed the time
[05:32] <jamadagni> but now sudo says it won't work
[05:32] <jamadagni> what to do?
[05:32] <jamadagni> ok sooryy again
[05:32] <jamadagni> i should have googled first
[05:32] <arunkale> ?
[05:34] <sinpath> can some one help me set up my media to play movies & cd's?
[05:35] <unix_infidel> !restricteformats
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restricteformats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <unix_infidel> !restrictedformats
[05:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:35] <unix_infidel> sinpath: ^^^^
[05:37] <sinpath> thanks i'll look it up
[05:37] <arunkale> !easyubuntu > sinpath
[05:38] <arunkale> did you get the bit about easyubuntu sinpath?
[05:39] <sinpath> yep
[05:40] <sinpath> thanks not sure what the resk might be tho
[05:44] <arunkale> sinpath: there's no risk with that
[05:45] <arunkale> Does anyone know of a good KDE-based browser apart from Konqueror?
[05:45] <serishema> what do you do when root apparently no longer has root access?
[05:45] <sinpath> ok then thanks i'll try it  but will it hurt torrent files?
[05:46] <LeeJunFan> serishema: how did you determine that?
[05:46] <arunkale> sinpath: what do you mean?
[05:47] <serishema> i'm booting over the network using init=/bin/bash since the machine doesn't boot properly.
[05:47] <serishema> everything that requires root like mount, etc doesn't work saying i must be root
[05:47] <serishema> even though i have a # prompt
[05:48] <sinpath> well some torrents i know wont play on windows or linux...or so im told
[05:49] <arunkale> dont worry about it sinpath, use easyubuntu
[05:49] <sinpath> thank you arunkale ^^
[05:50] <arunkale> Anyone know any good KDE-based browsers other than Konqueror?
[05:50] <sinpath> cant say i do
[05:50] <Jucato> none...
[05:51] <arunkale> damn
[05:51] <Jucato> Qt-based = Opera
[05:51] <arunkale> I'm going to try out Flock
[05:51] <arunkale> Konqueror messes up my colours and fonts
[05:51] <Momal> tried firefox?
[05:51] <Jucato> arunkale: how about firefox?
[05:52] <arunkale> Firefox is cool
[05:52] <arunkale> But I have this inexplicable feeling of weirdness using Gnome-based software on KDE heh
[05:53] <Jucato> hm... wait for Firefox 2.0 then (if it makes it into Edgy)
[05:53] <sinpath> can you get opera for linux?
[05:53] <Jucato> sinpath: yes
[05:53] <arunkale> yeah
[05:53] <Jucato> !opera
[05:53] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[05:53] <LeeJunFan> serishema: hrm, that is odd.
[05:53] <arunkale> opera 9
[05:53] <Jucato> hm.... that factoid...
[05:54] <Momal> firefox gnome based?...
[05:54] <arunkale> Man, I love Kubuntu.. you can customise it to such a great extent
[05:54] <arunkale> I even got my fonts to render like OS X does
[05:54] <LeeJunFan> serishema: what if you try su?
[05:54] <sinpath> thanks
[05:54] <Jucato> Firefox 1.x uses GTK for it's widgets/dialog boxes, afaik
[05:54] <arunkale> yeah
[05:54] <Jucato> but Firefox 2.0 will have an option to be compile to use Qt
[05:54] <Momal> arr
[05:54] <serishema> LeeJunFan: it says authetnication services cannot receive authentication info. Initgroups: Operation not permitted
[05:55] <LeeJunFan> serishema: with init=/bin/sh I have no idea why it wouldn't work. I do that all the time myself.
[05:56] <LeeJunFan> serishema: can you run whoami?
[05:56] <arunkale> Is it just me or are those glossy buttons in the Firefox 2 beta really ugly
[05:56] <serishema> no, whoami is on /usr which i can't mount
[05:57] <Jucato> arunkale: it's just you :P j/k
[05:57] <arunkale> heh
[05:57] <LeeJunFan> serishema: are you running a stock ubuntu kernel? or something else maybe with selinux ?
[05:57] <arunkale> I didn't like them at all. The old buttons are so much nicer
[05:58] <arunkale> why change what isn't broken?
[05:58] <serishema> i compiled the kernel from the ubuntu kernel-sources package since i needed to enable mounting nfs root filesystems
[05:58] <arunkale> Jucato: I've heard a lot about Edgy. What is going to be so great about it, visually?
[05:58] <LeeJunFan> serishema: actually you don't need to do that - initramfs can take care of it. But it still doesn't explain this...
[05:59] <serishema> so if i wanted to use the stock ubuntu kernel i could actually do that?
[05:59] <Jucato> arunkale: visually, new themes, new system settings
[05:59] <LeeJunFan> serishema: yep.
[06:00] <LeeJunFan> serishema: just have to edit /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf set BOOT=nfs
[06:00] <Jucato> arunkale: here's some screenshots of Knot 3 (3rd development release a.k.a. alpha/beta) but the window decorations and splash screen has been changed (I have to update that...)
[06:01] <Jucato> arunkale: http://jucato.multiply.com/photos/album/24
[06:01] <LeeJunFan> serishema: and run mkinitramfs it will build an initrd.img you can put in your tftp dir.
[06:02] <LeeJunFan> serishema: then in your pxe config just use APPEND initrd=initrd.img root=/dev/nfs ip=dhcp rw
[06:02] <Kr4t05> Hrm.
[06:02] <arunkale> Jucato: oooohh nice.. when is this going to be out? November?
[06:02] <serishema> looks like there's some extra packages i need /etc/initramfs-tools/ doesn't exist on the server machine
[06:02] <Jucato> arunkale: hopefully next month
[06:03] <Momal> how good will kde4 be ?
[06:03] <LeeJunFan> Jucato: cool. I was thinking about making a video of edgy with compiz but istanbul doesn't like working with my screen res so high.
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> so good. you will never leave the house again.
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:03] <arunkale> Edgy is based on KDE4
[06:03] <Jucato> Momal: that depends. it's a loooooong time from now
[06:04] <Jucato> arunkale: of course not
[06:04] <arunkale> ?
[06:04] <Momal> lol!
[06:04] <LeeJunFan> serishema: initramfs-tools
[06:04] <Jucato> KDE4 isn't even in Beta yet
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> i dident think kde4 was that advanced at the moment.
[06:04] <arunkale> okay..
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:04] <arunkale> is Edgy going to have transparency and stuff?
[06:04] <Jucato> "and stuff"
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> lots of 'and stuff'
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:04] <Jucato> lol
[06:05] <arunkale> haha
[06:05] <arunkale> for example?
[06:05] <Momal> Hmm neeed a movie to watch while it continues updating >_<.
[06:05] <Jucato> arunkale: still the same as in Dapper, you have to install XGL/Compiz to get those stuff
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> Edgy does some major changes to the fstab, and other device names  (well it expands on how they can be used) which is cool.
[06:05] <arunkale> okay..
[06:06] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: that's one thing that's going to confuse the hell out of people the first time it's released :P
[06:06] <LeeJunFan> Dr_Willis: yeah, and if you compile your own kernel you won't like those fstab changes :)
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> my NTFS drive from the edgy fstab -->  LABEL=WinBoot /media/WinBoot ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> LeeJunFan,  yep. :) but so far i like it.
[06:06] <LeeJunFan> nor grub
[06:06] <arunkale> Jucato: the new splash screens look all web2.0 :p
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> grub can use the label=stuff
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> or at least the uuid= stuff :)
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-8-386 root=UUID=6e5c20b5-005b-4886-a98c-12a9351052a2 ro nosplash nofb
[06:07] <Jucato> like I said, confusing :P
[06:07] <LeeJunFan> Dr_Willis: yeah, but a vanilla kernel can't.
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> i findit very logical. :P
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> Vanilla! i perfer Chocklet!
[06:07] <arunkale> what the heck did you just type!
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> Thats kerenl line is from my edgy  menu.lst
[06:07] <LeeJunFan> Dr_Willis: stack smashing has also been turned on in gcc by default so you will need to use -fno_stack_smashing or some such opt to build kernels.
[06:07] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: that's because you're an "expert"/advanced user. so you find everything logical :P
[06:07] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Where did you hear the Firefox 2.0 qt option from?
[06:08] <sinpath> hey  im having trouble trying to get the eazyubuntu
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> Jucato,  Logically so!
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:08] <arunkale> vanilla with chocolate chips, anyone?
[06:08] <sinpath> says
[06:08] <sinpath> The utility is not in your PATH.
[06:08] <sinpath> Please install it or contact your system administrator.
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> Stack Smashing! on the Next e Jenny Jones.
[06:08] <arunkale> sinpath: what do you mean?
[06:08] <Jucato> DaSkreech: forgot the website, it's supposed to be one of the new features of FF 2.0
[06:08] <Jucato> DaSkreech: is it a hoax?
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> sinpath,  give the full path to the binary.
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> sinpath,  or ./whatever if its in the current dir
[06:09] <Konstant> hello, i am new to kubuntu i am running a  live CD if i instal kubuntu will there be a bootloader so i can also use my windows OS?
[06:09] <sinpath> so dose that mean i need to d/l it to a sertan place?
[06:10] <Konstant> hello, i am new to kubuntu i am running a  live CD if i instal kubuntu will there be a bootloader so i can also use my windows OS?
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> sinpath,  you need to download and read the easyubuntu docs/website....
[06:10] <arunkale> sinpath: where did you download the file to?
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> Konstant,  should be a grub menu. yes.
[06:10] <Konstant> ok thank you
[06:10] <DeadSouL> When I try to listen mp3 on amarok, song ends immediately without making me listen it....
[06:10] <sinpath> >.< was afrad of that / to my home folder
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> afraid of what? reading the docs? :P
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> redownload it or look for it. :)
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> or learn to install stuff without it (best answer)
[06:11] <soulrider> hi everyone
[06:11] <LeeJunFan> Dr_Willis: the label and UUID stuff really helps out when you make use of external mounts which change their device nodes a lot though - that is a nice feature, and with kde 3.5.4 it also uses the volume/partition labels in creating /medi/PartitionName so that's less confusing than sda1 sda2 as well.
[06:11] <DeadSouL> When I try to listen mp3 on amarok, song ends immediately without making me listen it. How can I prevent it?
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> LeeJunFan,  yep.. My usb drives/sticks no longer play leapfrog with sd##
[06:12] <LeeJunFan> I wiped 4 yrs worth of digital pics once because I was trying to format a floppy on sda but turns out my external hd got that node :( I was able to recover but it wasn't fun.
[06:12] <arunkale> sinpath: where did u download stuff?
[06:12] <Jucato> DeadSouL: have you installed the codec for MP3? (libxine-extracodecs)
[06:12] <sinpath> im an unregstered user
[06:12] <DaSkreech> Jucato: I think it is
[06:12] <warpzone> DeadSouL: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[06:12] <DeadSouL> I havent installed it, let me check if it is installed or not...
[06:13] <soulrider> is anyone here using Eclipse on Edgy? It wont open for me, gives me an error, and the log doesnt help at all
[06:13] <DeadSouL> Thanks a lot Jucato and warpzone
[06:13] <Jucato> DaSkreech: if you haven't installed it, it probably isn't
[06:13] <warpzone> DeadSouL: not be default its not, some legality issues :-P
[06:13] <DeadSouL> I got it :)
[06:13] <Jucato> soulrider: you could try asking in #ubuntu+1 ?
[06:13] <soulrider> thganks Jucato
[06:13] <sinpath> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[06:14] <soulrider> i was int he channel yesterday but coulnt remember the name >P
[06:14] <Jucato> heh :)
[06:14] <Jucato> ok, that's it for me. tata!! :)
[06:14] <soulrider> edgy runs a lot better than dapper :)
[06:14] <sinpath> how do i register my nick? anyway
[06:15] <soulrider> try /msg nickserv register <password> <email?>
[06:15] <arunkale> yeah that's right
[06:15] <DaSkreech> !register
[06:15] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[06:15] <DaSkreech> How do I force a CDRom to eject?
[06:16] <LeeJunFan> DaSkreech: paper clip
[06:16] <DaSkreech> Doesn't work
[06:16] <arunkale> yeah
[06:16] <LeeJunFan> DaSkreech: or eject /dev/hdc ?
[06:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> DaSkreech, why force it?
[06:16] <DaSkreech> The Cd Spins down then back up
[06:16] <Telroth_Plushie|> DaSkreech, "sudo eject /dev/cdrom"
[06:16] <arunkale> try right click > eject?
[06:16] <DaSkreech> Cause I can't type eject do a right click eject etc
[06:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> run 'sudo umount -l /dev/cdrom'
[06:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> then press the button on the front
[06:17] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[06:17] <DaSkreech> That stopped it from reading
[06:17] <serishema> even with the stock kubuntu kernel and using initrd i seem to get the problem of init not having access to mount the rest of the volumes
[06:17] <DaSkreech> Swweeeeet
[06:17] <DaSkreech> Thanks Kamping_Kaiser
[06:18] <sinpath> ummm can you just spek to me like im bume as a brick cause this is a bit much for a new linux user
[06:18] <LeeJunFan> serishema: your root you are mounting over network? is it exported with rw privs no_root_squash?
[06:18] <KiDD420> hello
[06:18] <serishema> yes it is.
[06:18] <KiDD420> how do I mount my usb thumb drive?
[06:19] <serishema> as a quick  test i'm also unable to mount a usb memory stick, same error "only root can do that"
[06:19] <serishema> so something is screwed with the config
[06:19] <KiDD420> how do I do it?
[06:20] <LeeJunFan> serishema: I don't know what. At this point I would think it would have to be nfs messing it up.
[06:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> DaSkreech, np
[06:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> just dont do it unless you need to :)
[06:21] <LeeJunFan> serishema: I mean we've ruled out the kernel.
[06:21] <DaSkreech> Disables Autorun?
[06:21] <KiDD420> I really need to mount my usb drive
[06:21] <warpzone> KiDD420: if it doesnt do it automatically, try opening Konqueror and going type media:/ in the address bar
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> i normally just go to that  'computer' places. and they show up there.. or just mount the thing manually.
[06:22] <KiDD420> yea it doesnt show up
[06:22] <KiDD420> does it need to be plugged in when itts booting?
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> my sample usbstick device entry in fstab ----->     /dev/sde1 /media/sde1     vfat user,umask=007   0       0
[06:22] <warpzone> KiDD420:, type lsusb first to make sure its recognized in your USB ports
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> KiDD420,  shoudlent.. check output of 'dmesg' and unplug it.. then plug it back in.
[06:22] <warpzone> in the terminal
[06:23] <LeeJunFan> serishema: you wanna pastebin your /etc/exports and your pxe config so I can peek at them?
[06:23] <KiDD420> I dont hink it sees anything
[06:24] <KiDD420> its says one of my ntfs partions is fucked
[06:24] <serishema> pxelinux is the default configuration
[06:24] <warpzone> Dr_Willis: you have a permanent mount for a usb drive in fstab? what happens if you plug in a digital camera or something, does it mount it at sde2?
[06:24] <serishema> /export/home/ *(rw,async)
[06:24] <serishema> /usr 10.0.10.2(no_root_squash,rw,async)
[06:24] <serishema> /export/nfsroot 10.0.10.2(rw,async,no_root_squash)
[06:24] <serishema> /export/nfsroot 10.0.10.6(rw,async,no_root_squash)
[06:24] <serishema> /usr 10.0.10.6(rw,async,no_root_squash)
[06:24] <LeeJunFan> !paste
[06:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:25] <arunkale> how do i untar files again?
[06:25] <serishema> okay i'll keep that in mind
[06:25] <Momal> http://pastebin.ca/180437 <-- movies and series I have what should I watch... any suggestions
[06:25] <DaSkreech> Does k3b have any unsual locks that would prevent it from closing?
[06:25] <warpzone> arunkale: tar -xvf I believe, type man tar just to double check
[06:25] <KiDD420> any other suggestions?
[06:25] <warpzone> arunkale: hmm or I could do it for ya, one sec
[06:26] <LeeJunFan> serishema: hrm, I dunno. so far everything looks good. How did you install the basesystem that you are exporting?
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> warpzone,   nothing really. since i dont have anything else to plug in :P  in the edgy you can mount things based on drive label.   (yes they CAN get confused)
[06:26] <serishema> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24446
[06:26] <Momal> tar -xvf will jsut extract a normal tar file
[06:26] <sinpath> ok how do i register? the site you gave me is just confuing
[06:26] <serishema> locally from the CD.
[06:26] <KiDD420> wait it sees it on lsusb
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> warpzone,   Feature of edgy -->   My 2 USB External Hard Drives Ext3 Filesystem  #
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> LABEL=storage1 /media/UsbDrive1 ext3 defaults,user 0 1
[06:26] <arunkale> i just downloaded the tar.gz file of Flock
[06:26] <arunkale> how do i install this thing
[06:26] <serishema> i then just cp -Red the root partition
[06:26] <serishema> into a directory and exported it.
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> sinpath,  try '/msg nickserv help ' and read the messages from the nickserv bot.
[06:27] <KiDD420> anyone?
[06:27] <Momal> arunkale: tar.gz try | tar -zvxf filename.tar.gz
[06:27] <LeeJunFan> serishema: it might be permissions cp -a probably would have been better, or better yet tar piped to another tar. I made mine with debootstrap
[06:27] <LeeJunFan> !debootstrap
[06:27] <ubotu> debootstrap: Bootstrap a basic Debian system. In component main, is extra. Version 0.3.3.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 47 kB, installed size 240 kB
[06:27] <warpzone> Dr_Willis: oh neat, and it will keep things organzied if you disconnect them and plug them in later?
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> warpzone,  Yep. Even the grub menu.lst can use the extended information
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> warpzone,  edgy will shake things up a bit. :)
[06:28] <arunkale> Momal:
[06:28] <arunkale> tar: You must specify one of the `-Acdtrux' options
[06:28] <arunkale> Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information.
[06:28] <DaSkreech> Hmm Flock and seamonkey aren't in the repos
[06:28] <serishema> LeeJunFan: it's easy enough to redump it. the root file system came from the hard drive in this box i want to remove and use for something else
[06:28] <warpzone> Dr_Willis: ooo cool, where will we find the instructions for features like this? I don't want to miss out, I'm sure theres more
[06:29] <Momal> arunkale: do you have the gzip stuff installed to beable to ungzip gz files?
[06:29] <LeeJunFan> serishema: cd to your nfsroot dir and run ls -ln , view the permisions and ownership - should read somethign like this drwxr-xr-x  2 0 0 4096 2006-09-10 10:19 bin
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> warpzone,  i learned about it from that 'ubuntu hacks' book. :P you can sort of do it now with dapper. but ya have to edit the udev rules
[06:29] <LeeJunFan> serishema: note the 0 0 which is uid=0 and gid=0.
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> warpzone,  so aparently thats been expanded on.
[06:29] <Momal> arunkale: try gunzip file.tar.gz
[06:29] <serishema> LeeJunFan: You're right! The permissions and file owner/group are completely wrong
[06:29] <serishema> they all belong to my uid.
[06:29] <KiDD420> how do I add my usb drive to fstab?
[06:30] <LeeJunFan> serishema: cp -a will keep those. sudo -i first to become root
[06:30] <warpzone> Dr_Willis, oh man I'll keep my eyes pealed then.
[06:30] <LeeJunFan> serishema: but cp -a will also copy recursively into mounted fs'es and /tmp and /proc and /sys which may not be what you want. That's why tar is better for that.
[06:30] <LeeJunFan> serishema: lemme check on the args needed for tar to do it right.
[06:31] <serishema> LeeJunFan: the piping tar through itself solution sounds good.
[06:31] <DaSkreech> How can I ask a program to die nicely when it won't close?
[06:31] <Lunar_Raven> !aiglx
[06:31] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[06:31] <warpzone> Does anybody know if there is an Xorg cache that is by default 500mb? Xorg leaks to 500mb RAM usage
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> DaSkreech,  if it has a window. you can use 'xkill' and click on the programs window.
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Dr_Willis: It's k3b wo't htat cause some issues?
[06:32] <warpzone> DaSkreech: killall or kill -9, I believe. You can look up the processes with ps
[06:32] <sinpath> ok do i use the <>
[06:32] <DaSkreech> warpzone: kill -9 is not nicely :)
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> DaSkreech,  no idea.. one way to find out.
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:32] <serishema> or ctrl+alt+esc in kde
[06:32] <sinpath> cause i keep getting the unknown command meg
[06:33] <DaSkreech> serishema: I think that should work as long as X is running
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> sinpath,  huh?
[06:33] <warpzone> DaSkreech: I made an alias to that, 'overkill'
[06:33] <sinpath> msg NickServ register <password> <emailaddress>
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> kill --with-extreme-prejudice
[06:34] <warpzone> haha
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Nope looks like Reboot time
[06:34] <arunkale> sinpath did you get my pm?
[06:35] <arunkale> did u type the / before msg?
[06:36] <warpzone> basic linux question but if I put something in /usr/share, it will be availible to all users?
[06:36] <arunkale> should be
[06:36] <LeeJunFan> serishema: it should be somethign like tar -cvl -C / . | tar xv -C newroot
[06:36] <serishema> read only though
[06:36] <sinpath> well im lost on what i should put for my e-mail
[06:36] <LeeJunFan> serishema: but for some reason it's getting my mounted fs's here doing that.
[06:36] <sinpath> & ya im getting them
[06:37] <warpzone> serishema: roger dodger
[06:37] <arunkale> sinpath: the email is optional i think
[06:37] <LeeJunFan> serishema: the l is supposed to make it stay on one fs.
[06:37] <KiDD420> someone please tell me how to mount my usb drive?
[06:37] <sinpath> ok so in the password part i put my linuxs start up pass?
[06:38] <arunkale> no no
[06:38] <arunkale> u can choose any password
[06:38] <sinpath> ok well i got this
[06:38] <sinpath> NickServ- Syntax: REGISTER <password>
[06:38] <Momal> so type | /msg NickServ REGISTER mypassword | change mypassword to what you want
[06:39] <LeeJunFan> serishema: got it - tar -cv --one-file-system -C / . | tar xv -C newroot
[06:39] <serishema> that's looking like it's going to work
[06:40] <serishema> LeeJunFan: i have too much stuff in /var that i should have deleted first so we'll have to wait and see if it starts taking other mounted file systems
[06:41] <LeeJunFan> serishema: that should do it - worked fine here. -l was supposed to do it too but - owell.
[06:42] <LeeJunFan> serishema: needed to use the whole --one-file-system for it to work right.
[06:43] <serishema> seems to have done what it should
[06:45] <ninety> Is KDE exactly the same on all linux distros?
[06:45] <LeeJunFan> ninety: no
[06:46] <LeeJunFan> ninety: some distro change it, some brand it, etc...
[06:46] <serishema> damn now we get a different error nfs: Rpc call returned error 101
[06:46] <ninety> how big are the differences, then? Just branding?
[06:47] <LeeJunFan> ninety: mostly but some actually change kde code, kubuntu does to make it use the ksudo, normally kdesu is used.
[06:47] <ninety> ok, i see
[06:48] <ninety> but more or less, using kubuntu would be the same experience as any other linux distro with KDE?
[06:49] <Momal> to someone just using it for webbrowsing, emails, burning, listening to music and that then yea pretty much
[06:49] <KiDD420> is it that hard to mount a usb drive?
[06:50] <smaggard> kubuntu will mount a usb drive easily :D
[06:50] <KiDD420> please enlighten me
[06:50] <ninety> momal: thanks!
[06:50] <Makro2> what app can i use to make a deb file so i can install and uninstall compiled software with apt
[06:50] <motorcitymadman> !usb
[06:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:50] <smaggard> when you plug the drive in... a new drive will show up on your desktop :D
[06:50] <smaggard> if it doesnt
[06:50] <KiDD420> yea... but it doesnt
[06:50] <LeeJunFan> serishema: did you put the new dir in the same place/name? you might need to exportfs -r
[06:51] <smaggard> then all you have to do is mount the /dev/sda to some directory
[06:51] <KiDD420> i ttried it said no medium
[06:51] <Momal> if your in kde should automatically do it.. if not | mount /mnt/usb /dev/sda1 | i believe should work.. but you will need to create /mnt/usb first
[06:51] <smaggard> yeah correct
[06:51] <smaggard> trust me i had to do this in gentoo all the time lol
[06:51] <smaggard> gentoo wououldnt do CRAP for y
[06:51] <Momal> haha
[06:51] <smaggard> for you**
[06:52] <smaggard> even in kde it was a pain
[06:52] <Momal> kubuntu for the win then ^^
[06:52] <smaggard> omg a year of gentoo and then the switch of to kubuntu is like OMG i cant believe its this easy and I can get this much stuff done without fighting with linux!!
[06:52] <KiDD420> i ttried it said no medium
[06:52] <smaggard> try /dev/sdb
[06:53] <serishema> somewhat more luck now.
[06:53] <smaggard> disconnect the drive, type dmesg, connect the drive type dmesg and see whats happening.
[06:53] <serishema> I just need some way to force it not to try and fsck nfs file systems
[06:53] <DaSkreech> Oh
[06:53] <DaSkreech> my
[06:53] <DaSkreech> Goodnes
[06:53] <DaSkreech> Gracious
[06:53] <tinchio> Hello everyone
[06:53] <DaSkreech> Gosh
[06:53] <smaggard> hello all
[06:54] <KiDD420> well it shows up as dev/sda
[06:54] <tinchio> I have  a question related to Vmware, has anyone here used it?
[06:54] <smaggard> so there ya go
[06:54] <DaSkreech> I love Sub pixel fonts
[06:54] <smaggard> Vmware yes runs good on Kubuntu
[06:54] <KiDD420> well it doesnt work
[06:54] <smaggard> i have it installed currently
[06:54] <tinchio> smaggard,  yes actually i already have it running
[06:55] <tinchio> but i have one doubt
[06:55] <Momal> KiBB420: run the mount command and copy/paste the output here
[06:55] <smaggard> what happens when you try and mount by typing sudo mount /mnt/usb /dev/sda ?
[06:55] <KiDD420> same thing
[06:55] <KiDD420> i su
[06:55] <smaggard> what IS the same thing tho?
[06:55] <KiDD420> NO MEDIUM
[06:55] <smaggard> hmm
[06:55] <smaggard> does dmesg show that it detects it?
[06:55] <KiDD420> yes
[06:55] <LeeJunFan> serishema: go to the dir you are exporting and 'touch fastboot && chmod 0 fastboot'
[06:56] <LeeJunFan> serishema: that should stop it from fscking.
[06:56] <serishema> i chmod 000ed the scripts that do the checking
[06:56] <smaggard> do wut leejunfan say
[06:56] <KiDD420> lsusb shows it
[06:56] <LeeJunFan> serishema: to each dir you are exporting.
[06:56] <serishema> but now when trying to mount /usr i get nfs: rpc call returned error 101
[06:57] <smaggard> whoah
[06:57] <smaggard> umm just reinstall kubuntu ;) lol jk jk
[06:57] <smaggard> my camera works just fine like cake
[06:57] <serishema> the installer doesn't even support network boot installs that's why i'm having all these problems
[06:58] <KiDD420> any sugggestions?
[06:58] <tinchio> smaggard,  you know that it worked fine but  today i updated the kernel to 2.6.15.27 and when i try to run it i says that it must be reconfigured, ok i tried to do it but in one of the steps i asks me
[06:58] <LeeJunFan> serishema: is it pausing for like 1 min and 30 seconds when it tries to mount?
[06:58] <tinchio> smaggard,  "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[06:58] <tinchio> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[06:58] <tinchio> The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.15.7-ubuntu1) does not match your
[06:58] <tinchio> running kernel (version 2.6.15-27-k7).  Even if the module were to compile
[06:58] <tinchio> successfully, it would not load into the running kernel.
[06:58] <tinchio> "
[06:59] <LeeJunFan> serishema: you have to use nolock in fstab options for the nfs filesystems.
[06:59] <Lunar_Raven> does anyone know where i can find an AIGLX tut for kububtu?
[06:59] <serishema> oh right because it's mounting too early in the boot process for locking to work?
[06:59] <LeeJunFan> serishema: yeah, locking won't work until portmapper starts.
[07:00] <Momal> KiDD420 still there?
[07:00] <LeeJunFan> serishema: I use hard,nolock
[07:00] <Momal> are you typeing | /dev/sda or /dev/sda1?
[07:00] <Lunar_Raven> !aiglx
[07:00] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[07:00] <serishema> it's be preferable to somehow get the portmapper to start eairler. since i have multiple machines using that same /usr
[07:00] <KiDD420> just /dev/sda
[07:00] <Momal> try /dev/sda1
[07:00] <KiDD420> i did
[07:01] <Momal> same error ?
[07:01] <KiDD420> it said special device does not exist
[07:01] <LeeJunFan> serishema: shouldn't matter. as long as they don't try modifying the same files at the same time and even then the server should take care of locking so they don't get corrupted.
[07:02] <Momal> something must be really screwed up then me thinks :S
[07:03] <KiDD420> ugh
[07:03] <KiDD420> its a brand new usb drive
[07:03] <KiDD420> it worked in windows
[07:03] <smaggard> hmm
[07:05] <LeeJunFan> serishema: I think the only problem with not having locking is going to be IF a program calls to lock a file over NFS it will fail. However I've got 25 workstations running off the same FS at a library and never had a problem.
[07:06] <KiDD420> I hate windows... if only Call of Duty 2 would run on linux
[07:06] <serishema> ah right..
[07:06] <serishema> then i needn't worry.. Unfortunately even specifying nolock i get the same error
[07:07] <smaggard> kde just pops up a window saying new usb device found :D
[07:07] <serishema> LeeJunFan: 101 is host unreachable so i think it's doing something dumb like unconfiguring the network card during the boot process
[07:07] <smaggard> and dmesg looks like this http://pastebin.com/792404
[07:07] <LeeJunFan> serishema: yes, that's it!
[07:08] <LeeJunFan> serishema: edit /etc/network/interfaces and comment out #auto eth0
[07:08] <arunkale> !mp3
[07:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:08] <LeeJunFan> serishema: I knew there was somethign that caused me to get that same issue.
[07:10] <smaggard> congrats!
[07:10] <ironfroggy> anyone here have a dell laptop?
[07:11] <smaggard> i have an hp, sorry..
[07:11] <smaggard> i love my HP :D :D
[07:11] <ironfroggy> well maybe its a common laptop thing. my batter light is flashing, alternating green and amber.
[07:11] <Momal> KiDD420: does dmesg say it as been sda ?
[07:11] <smaggard> http://pastebin.com/792404
[07:11] <ironfroggy> its never done this before. usually only flashing when its charging or solid when running on battery.
[07:12] <smaggard> turn it off, unplug it, take out the battery, then go backwards
[07:12] <smaggard> that should clear any bugs
[07:13] <ironfroggy> any idea what kind of bugs that could be? im more interested knowing what caused it than fixing it, because i dont want it to happen again.
[07:13] <smaggard> sometimes my hp gets out of cycle and will go full bright when you unplug the laptop, and dim when you plug it in.
[07:13] <KiDD420> yes
[07:13] <KiDD420> SCSI device SDA
[07:13] <smaggard> it has to do with it being plugged in when its turned on, then being unplugged and turned off unplugged or something.
[07:14] <Momal> you try another usb slot ?
[07:14] <KiDD420> no
[07:15] <KiDD420> no dice
[07:16] <ironfroggy> it doesnt seem like an out-of-cycle issue. because it _never_ does this, in any cycle.
[07:16] <ironfroggy> part of its cycle, that is
[07:16] <smaggard> well i dont know what it is
[07:16] <serishema> solved that problem but now it just sits there waiting for /usr
[07:16] <Momal> strange... not sure on what it could be then sorry.
[07:16] <serishema> i'm beginning to think this is more trouble than it's worth and i should just buy more drives
[07:17] <smaggard> it could be a problem with the actual battery.
[07:17] <KiDD420> ok... well how about being able to read this NTTFS drive
[07:17] <smaggard> is it flashing orange, green, orange, green.... ?
[07:18] <LeeJunFan> serishema: still not working?
[07:18] <serishema> nope. sits there forever mounting /usr
[07:18] <LeeJunFan> serishema: that sounds like nolock
[07:18] <serishema> i've specified nolock though
[07:20] <smaggard> ironfroggy, take the battery out and hit the self-test button
[07:21] <Momal> once you find what /dev it is then shoudl just be able to use the mount command with -t nfs i think it is for ntfs... but you wont have write capabilities
[07:24] <Admiral_Chicago> or edit the fstab
[07:24] <Admiral_Chicago> !fstab
[07:24] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[07:24] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll automount on bott
[07:24] <Admiral_Chicago> boot*
[07:24] <Admiral_Chicago> just make sure to be sudo when you type sudo kate /etc/fstab
[07:24] <LeeJunFan> serishema: hrm, I'm at a loss... if it is locking that's screwing it up it should eventually mount - about 2 mins lag.
[07:25] <Admiral_Chicago> LeeJunFan, just look at fstab
[07:25] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm so drunk right now i can't figure it out
[07:25] <Admiral_Chicago> but look at the documentation
[07:25] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll help
[07:27] <LeeJunFan> serishema: what's your line in fstab look like for /usr ?
[07:27] <smaggard> gnite all
[07:28] <serishema> server.kinsman:/usr /usr nfs mountvers=2,hard,nolock 0 0
[07:29] <LeeJunFan> serishema: should use IP, it's probably not resolving the name. Make sure /etc/resolv.conf on the nfsroot has the right nameserver lines.
[07:30] <udeng> sometimes i need a nice output from a script, but if i accidentally press a key it gets displayed, which dirties the fine output of the script. how do i tell the console (from the script) to avoid echoing any keyboard input?
[07:30] <LeeJunFan> serishema: or /etc/hosts has IP server.kinsman
[07:32] <serishema> LeeJunFan: nope. i see lots requests on tcpdump. It's as if the server starts ignoring the computer i'm bootings requests after a while
[07:34] <serishema> it keeps sending 17:32:10.247763 IP 10.0.10.6.867985996 > 10.0.10.250.nfs: 112 getattr [|nfs] 
[07:34] <serishema> to which the server replys with an ack and then just ignores it
[07:34] <LeeJunFan> serishema: the only diff I can see between yours and min is I don't have mountvers=2
[07:35] <LeeJunFan> serishema: I've just got hard,nolock
[07:35] <serishema> let's try that then
[07:35] <DeadSouL> !help multiverse > deadsoul
[07:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help multiverse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:35] <Jucato_> !multiverse > DeadSouL
[07:35] <DeadSouL> Thanks :)
[07:36] <Jucato_> Z:)
[07:36] <brodyn> im bored
[07:36] <brodyn> again
[07:36] <Jucato_> DeadSouL: btw, you can engage ubotu in a private PM so you can query/ask it as much as you want without flooding the channel with requests :)
[07:36] <DeadSouL> Ok, from now on....
[07:36] <DaSkreech> Hi Again Hobbsee
[07:37] <Hobbsee> heya
[07:37] <Jucato_> DeadSouL: once or twice is ok. don't worry :)
[07:37] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: I have Sub pixeled smoothed fonts now
[07:37] <DeadSouL> :)
[07:37] <DaSkreech>  I'm very happy :)
[07:37] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: nice :)
[07:38] <DaSkreech> PLus I installed Edgy on a client's computer >-<
[07:38] <DaSkreech> It works pretty well
[07:38] <Jucato_> ooh... was that wise? :P
[07:38] <MasterEvilAce> hello all
[07:38] <MasterEvilAce> how is eveyrone
[07:38] <DaSkreech> Jucato_: Did you install a newer version of KDE?
[07:38] <LeeJunFan> Jucato_: that's what I was thinking. :P
[07:38] <Bropho> bored
[07:38] <Jucato_> KDE 3.5.4?
[07:39] <DaSkreech> Meh I'm the only one using it :)
[07:39] <MasterEvilAce> me too
[07:39] <DaSkreech> Jucato_: yup :)
[07:39] <Jucato_> I'm using KDE 3.5.4 both on Dapper and Edgy
[07:39] <DaSkreech> Didn't you notice the fonts got nastier?
[07:39] <serishema> ah here we go.. i actually found the error.. apparently nfs v3 is not supported
[07:39] <MasterEvilAce> I'm using fully updated (well probably not right NOW).. of Edgy
[07:39] <Bropho> i have nufin to do but sit on my computer
[07:39] <LeeJunFan> the gtk ones did.
[07:40] <claydoh> Adept even works properly (almost)
[07:40] <Jucato_> DaSkreech: initially it did I think...
[07:40] <MasterEvilAce> the only weirdness i have with Kubuntu.. i'm not sure dapper did this.. i didn't use it often. but i can SEE my screen refresh.
[07:40] <Bropho> ok
[07:40] <Jucato_> claydoh: yeah it is... but still :)
[07:40] <DaSkreech> Jucato_: kcmshell fonts
[07:40] <DaSkreech> Run that :)
[07:41] <DaSkreech> click use antialiasing for fonts
[07:41] <claydoh> gonna put it on y main box tomorrow
[07:41] <bzbb> I don't mess with font rendering, I have automatic high-speed full screen anti-aliasing built into my monitors
[07:41] <DaSkreech> and then configure and use sub pixel thingy
[07:41] <DaSkreech> bzbb: That's really strange
[07:41] <sinpath> back
[07:42] <bzbb> DaSkreech, my monitor is out of focus
[07:42] <Jucato_> hm... like I said, I haven't noticed, probably because I'm not using the default fonts?
[07:42] <Jucato_> anyway, I enabled anti aliasing now.. I'll see what happens later
[07:42] <arunkale> i got my fonts to render exactly like OS X renders fonts
[07:42] <DaSkreech> Jucato_: You turned on sub pixel hinting?
[07:42] <MasterEvilAce> bzbb: Yeah. I had 32x antialiasing on my 19" CRT. It was so old that the electron gun started getting lazy. Everything was REALLLL blurry.
[07:42] <arunkale> they are so sexy now
[07:43] <Jucato_> DaSkreech: just now
[07:43] <Bropho> im install updates 20% to go!
[07:43] <Jucato_> DaSkreech: should I turn it off?
[07:43] <DaSkreech> Ok when you comeback into KDe tell me if you notice anything
[07:43] <DaSkreech> Nope leave it on
[07:43] <sinpath> how di i identify again?
[07:43] <Jucato_> hmm... isn't the effet supposed to be visible for newly started apps?
[07:43] <bzbb> MasterEvilAce, yeah, I have an old dell trinitron 19 inch and an old gateway 19 inch, one is too bright, the other too dark
[07:43] <bzbb> both blur
[07:44] <Jucato_> sinpath: /msg nickserv identify <password>
[07:44] <DaSkreech> Jucato_: Yeah so when you restart KDe.....
[07:44] <LeeJunFan> serishema: got it working now?
[07:44] <sinpath> says unknow command
[07:44] <Momal> hmm seemed updating didnt' fix my prob... the error X shows after I reboot is | API mismatch Nvidia kernel module version 1.0-7174 but X module has version 1.0-8774 make sure they both have the same version | I rerun the nvidia driver installer and X starts up. then next time I reboot it doesn't start again. anyone have any ideas??
[07:44] <sinpath>  /msg nickserv identify <password>
[07:44] <serishema> almost
[07:45] <serishema> it's something to do with the init boot process
[07:45] <Jucato_> DaSkreech: actually I see the difference now. a bit...
[07:45] <LeeJunFan> serishema: I'm using the kernel server as well - not the usermode one.
[07:45] <DaSkreech> :-)
[07:45] <arunkale> i got my fonts to render exactly like OS X renders fonts
[07:45] <DaSkreech> Jucato_: Enjoy
[07:45] <Jucato_> seem slike anti-aliasing made the fonts look a bit smaller?
[07:45] <serishema> usr won't mount from there even with the same options as it does from the command line
[07:45] <DaSkreech> arunkale: Talk to you on that later
[07:45] <serishema> i'm using kernel-server as well
[07:45] <DaSkreech> Night all!!
[07:45] <arunkale> night
[07:45] <MasterEvilAce> arunkale: ?? have a screenshot of OSX?
[07:45] <Jucato_> bye DaSkreech
[07:45] <sinpath>  /msg nickserv identify <password> isnt working for me
[07:45] <arunkale> ??
[07:46] <arunkale> it's /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[07:46] <Jucato_> sinpath: er.. try /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[07:46] <Jucato_> sorry
[07:46] <LeeJunFan> serishema: hrm, I didn't have to do anything special with the nfs server or mounting as far as version mismatch... Are you using ubuntu dapper for both server and client?
[07:47] <sinpath> thanks
[07:49] <LeeJunFan> serishema: you may have to edit /etc/rcS.d/S35mountall.sh and remove nfs from the list of fs's not to mount.
[07:50] <LeeJunFan> serishema: ie, I think in dapper there's 2 lines something like this mount -a -t noproc,nfs,nfs4,smbfs,cifs,ncp,ncpfs,coda,ocfs2,gfs
[07:50] <LeeJunFan> serishema: nfs,nfs4 should be removed from them, in edgy there's only 1 line.
[07:51] <LeeJunFan> serishema: if I remember right with dapper they are all nonfs,nonfs4 maybe. still remove them.
[07:51] <bobbyyu> I have a new problem: my Windows machine can't access my Linux's Storage Media Shares
[07:52] <XTorchedX> what are they formatted as?
[07:52] <LeeJunFan> bobbyyu: or are you talking about over a network?
[07:52] <bobbyyu> Yes
[07:53] <bobbyyu> My Linux box is dual boot
[07:53] <bobbyyu> I want to share my Windows stuff in Linux to my Windows box beside me
[07:53] <LeeJunFan> !swat
[07:53] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:54] <Sir_Homer> guys guys
[07:54] <LeeJunFan> bobbyyu: ^^ SWAT is your friend with setting up samba sharing on linux.
[07:54] <Sir_Homer> can I use FVWM95 with KDE?
[07:55] <LeeJunFan> well, I'm going to bed. gnight.
[07:56] <Sir_Homer> later
[07:57] <udeng> sometimes i need a nice output from a script, but if i accidentally press a key it gets displayed, which dirties the fine output of the script. how do i tell the console (from the script) to avoid echoing any keyboard input?
[07:58] <KiDD420> umm
[07:59] <serishema> i appreachiate all this help.. i'm giving that a go..
[07:59] <moj0rising> hi! does anyone know if any of the open source calendars out there support appointments in the way Outlook does them? e.g. You can create an appointment for someone and e-mail it to them, they click "accept," etc.
[08:00] <serishema> yeah i think that's done it.
[08:00] <serishema> at it at least gets past init.. the x config is wrong though so i can't see anything
[08:05] <MasterEvilAce> moj0rising: Google calendar can do that
[08:05] <MasterEvilAce> moj0rising: or well.. in a way
[08:05] <moj0rising> Cool. I need it to be something my office can use. I'm trying to get rid of outlook.
[08:05] <Jucato_> KOrganizer? Evolution?
[08:05] <MasterEvilAce> moj0rising: not sure if it could be tailored to what yo uneed. you can create "events" and people can accept or decline
[08:06] <MasterEvilAce> You could always get a custom script made
[08:06] <moj0rising> The sales ppl in my office are the ones putting up the fight. They want to be able to send appts to each other...
[08:06] <moj0rising> ...and have clients do the same.
[08:06] <moj0rising> send them appointments.
[08:07] <moj0rising> I think we're out of luck.
[08:07] <moj0rising> BTW: the office still runs windows on most desktops.
[08:08] <moj0rising> After I get everyone comfortable w/ oss, then I'll start moving towards linux on desktops.
[08:08] <serishema> LeeJunFan: That got it working!
[08:08] <moj0rising> I think I'm probably going to have to convince them they really don't need that feature or keep sales on outlook.
[08:08] <inam> moj0rising: and your clients could be using any OS right ?
[08:09] <unix_lappy> you can use outlook on linux last i heard.
[08:09] <moj0rising> right. I guess most of them use outlook.
[08:09] <MasterEvilAce> moj0rising: Get a webserver (host it off of a linux box) and use PHP / MySQL and get a script written for it
[08:09] <MasterEvilAce> moj0rising: then you could have it custom tailored and just send links via email for people to click. easy, really
[08:09] <moj0rising> MasterEvilAce: Hm. Might be tough but sounds like that might be the only way.
[08:10] <moj0rising> MasterEvilAce: I just am not sure how to go about it.
[08:10] <inam> Is there any plug-in for thunderbird that can read "outlook appointment" email s?
[08:10] <moj0rising> Lightning can..
[08:10] <moj0rising> ...but it doesn't seem to work.
[08:10] <moj0rising> Lightning is pretty young still.
[08:11] <moj0rising> It is a variant of sorts of Sunbird.
[08:12] <moj0rising> They also didn't like how thunderbird does not put attachments in the body of e-mails when send to is clicked from openoffice.
[08:12] <moj0rising> I wanted to slap them for that one. I mean is it really that big of a deal.
[08:13] <moj0rising> Well thanks for throwing some ideas at me, everyone. I think it brought me a little closer to what I'm trying to accomplish.
[08:13] <MasterEvilAce> anything on a boring saturday morning
[08:14] <moj0rising> ha.
[08:14] <KiDD420> a bong hit
[08:17] <Momal> garr this starting to really shit me off.. how can something just disppear after i reboot >_<
[08:17] <flaccid> !guide
[08:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about guide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:18] <MasterEvilAce> Momal: Gnomes. And not the Linux kind.
[08:19] <Momal> hmm well maybe you have an idea to my problem
[08:19] <Momal> The error X shows after I reboot is | API mismatch Nvidia kernel module version 1.0-7174 but X module has version 1.0-8774 make sure they both have the same version | I rerun the nvidia driver installer and X starts up. then next time I reboot it doesn't start again.
[08:20] <Momal> it all works fine just every reboot i have to run the nvidia driver isntaller >_<
[08:21] <MasterEvilAce> hm.. weird
[08:21] <Momal> its like its getting an older kernel after it reboots >_<
[08:22] <Momal> then it loads the new one when i run the installer
[08:24] <MasterEvilAce> Momal: I don't know much about what you're doing.. but does this help http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=780079
[08:30] <RC_ZA> just install kubuntu, cant seem to compile from source files...
[08:30] <RC_ZA> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[08:30] <RC_ZA> any ideas ?
[08:31] <Momal> apt-get install build-essentials
[08:32] <Momal> masterevilace: thanks going to have a look at that stuff now
[08:33] <crazy_penguin> Good day all!
[08:33] <Admiral_Chicago> RootChaos, you have to install a package
[08:33] <Admiral_Chicago> !compile
[08:33] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:33] <Admiral_Chicago> thats the one
[08:34] <flaccid> !xgl
[08:34] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:35] <RootChaos> thanks Admiral_Chicago
[08:35] <RootChaos> will check it out
[08:37] <Admiral_Chicago> RootChaos, i have to go
[08:37] <Admiral_Chicago> i hope that helped
[08:38] <arunkale> !mp3
[08:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:42] <Momal> arr damn didn't seem to help :(
[08:43] <MasterEvilAce> :/
[08:43] <Raul12> how to get all liabries present in libs part of the archieve
[08:44] <Raul12> in package site
[08:44] <Raul12> help plz
[08:47] <MasterEvilAce> time for sleep
[08:47] <Momal> god this freeken sucks
[08:48] <Momal> hate to say this but now i know why people use shit assed windows
[08:48] <insanekane> Momal: :)
[08:55] <Momal> FINALLY FIXED NOW I CAN FK THIS WINDOWS CRAP OFF!!!!!
[08:56] <Raul12> O0
[08:56] <Abattoir1> !language
[08:56] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:57] <Momal> sorry just full of joy right now >_<
[08:57] <Raul12> mORNAL !languge prb
[08:57] <abattoir> :)
[08:57] <arunkale> hahaha
[08:58] <Raul12> u r still nub about os windows is best in its own sphere and so as linux in it own sphere
[08:58] <Ashex> my eyes bleed at the sight of your grammar
[08:59] <Momal> yea but im not in that sphere of windows therefore its crap in my words :)
[08:59] <llxcamxll> well if this linux so great why can't i just install stuff with a simple click
[08:59] <Raul12> take some cotton@ashex
[09:00] <Momal2> you can lol!
[09:00] <Ashex> beh?
[09:00] <llxcamxll> like i just downloaded quake2.tar.gz, it extracted itself and stuff but like it tells me i gotta do something about libraries
[09:00] <arunkale> hahahahaha
[09:00] <arunkale> that's a golden quote
[09:00] <arunkale> "yea but im not in that sphere of windows therefore its crap in my words :)"
[09:00] <arunkale> ahahahaha
[09:00] <llxcamxll> you a golden moron
[09:01] <llxcamxll> LoadLibrary("ref_softx.so") failed: can't open /etc/quake2.conf (required for location of ref libraries)
[09:01] <Momal2> llxcamxll its called adept... umm well as for quake2 its no different from windows you having to install video drivers or new driectx now is it ?
[09:01] <Momal2> plus you probly find that what you downlaoded you need something else with it ^_-
[09:02] <llxcamxll> well like i'm new to linux..but everything i have ever tried to install outside of adept has simply been a nightmare
[09:02] <llxcamxll> like what the
[09:04] <llxcamxll> like look at that, linux version of quake 2 comes without pak0.pak
[09:04] <llxcamxll> what a farse
[09:05] <Momal2> its because your meant to have your own copy of quake2.. so you copy that in with the contents of that zip
[09:05] <Momal2> woot my linux me just joined
[09:06] <Momal> yay
[09:12] <swatgoss> someone know the command to run KDEWallet GUI ?
[09:12] <swatgoss> from Kmenu > launch apps
[09:15] <SAngeli> what happened to the application bar that I would get when hit Alt-Tab in kubuntu?
[09:15] <okto> swatgoss: if its not available in Kmenu, you can add it witk kmenuedit/menu editor...kwalletmanager is the name of app, you can run it from konsole
[09:16] <swatgoss> thx
[09:16] <swatgoss> just want the name to enter in console :p
[09:16] <swatgoss> or in the "executer une commande" in Kmenu
[09:16] <swatgoss> under Actions bar
[09:18] <okto> swatgoss: ok np,..if you dont already know, you can "guess" the name by type kw in konsole then hit tab, it gives you available command beginning with kw for example
[09:19] <swatgoss> autocompletion ?
[09:19] <okto> swatgoss: exactly
[09:19] <swatgoss> wasnt aware of this :p
[09:19] <swatgoss> i tried "kwallet" "kdewallet" "kwmanag" "kdewalletmanager"
[09:20] <swatgoss> but not kwalletmanager :p
[09:21] <swatgoss> so, before trying a bture force search, i asked here :p
[09:21] <swatgoss> *brute*
[09:22] <themadscotsman> ok...i have a dumb question......how do i install another distro to HD with this one w/o ruining my set-up i have now
[09:24] <okto> swatgoss: available commands usually reside in /usr/bin, so you can restrict the *brute* search there...:)
[09:24] <swatgoss> oki
[09:25] <themadscotsman> can anyone answer my ????
[09:26] <okto> themadscotsman: you can make separate partition, install the new one there
[09:26] <okto> themadscotsman: if thet is the case
[09:27] <themadscotsman> i only had a / and swap....will i have to resize
[09:28] <okto> themadscotsman: yes, you can use qtparted to make new partitions,
[09:28] <themadscotsman> and where would you put thr grub bootloader
[09:29] <okto> themadscotsman: in MBR, if you want to make it easier, just use the ubuntu grub you already have then add the new distro there
[09:29] <themadscotsman> ok...never mind....think i'll just install my other HD so i don't jack up what i have installed already
[09:35] <_mark> !KDE
[09:35] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[09:40] <swatgoss> !samba
[09:40] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:42] <roconnor> according to my /proc/cpuinfo: cpu MHz         : 1395.658, but according to /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq I'm at 600000
[09:42] <roconnor> which one is right?
[09:43] <arunkale> how does one play audio cds in kubuntu
[09:44] <Admiral_Chicago> kaffine
[09:45] <Admiral_Chicago> arunkale, does that work?
[09:45] <arunkale> donno
[09:45] <arunkale> trying] '
[09:45] <Admiral_Chicago> k
[09:48] <Milkyy> What's the hotkey in Konqueror to place the "marker" at the google search bar? And is anyone actually using konqueror for browsing?
[09:49] <Jucato> Milkyy: Ctrl+S ?
[09:50] <Milkyy> didn't work
[09:50] <sinpath>  which cd ripper do you ppl most prefure to use?
[09:51] <Jucato> hm..
[09:51] <Milkyy> well the one that comes with kubuntu seeems fine :)
[09:51] <arunkale> Admiral_Chicago: ti worked
[09:51] <Milkyy> sinpath
[09:51] <Jucato> !CDRipping
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about CDRipping - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <arunkale> Mikey: he's having some trouble usig KAudiocdripper
[09:51] <Jucato> err...
[09:51] <Jucato> why not use Konqueror?
[09:51] <Jucato> sinpath: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping
[09:51] <arunkale> to rip cds?
[09:52] <Milkyy> if that hotkey doesn't exist I'm not going to use konqueror. And it's mostly about firefox's extensions
[09:52] <sinpath> well the ripper on kinux dosnt svae them ....inface it deletes them as soon as its riped
[09:52] <Milkyy> although I'm hesitating to use firefox since it seems that konqueror is pretty well embedded in kde :)
[09:52] <leleobhz> hello all
[09:52] <Jucato> Milkyy: I'm sure it's supposed to exist, at least in the Configure Shortcuts...
[09:53] <Milkyy> ok
[09:53] <leleobhz> ive removed my K button from bar
[09:53] <leleobhz> how i can put it back again?
[09:53] <Jucato> leleobhz: right-click on the panel > Add Applet to Panel > and look for K Menu
[09:54] <Jucato> Milkyy: although if I'm going to search in Google, I just press F6 then "gg:<search terms>"
[09:54] <Milkyy> okey
[09:54] <Milkyy> that seems like a pain :P
[09:54] <Jucato> Milkyy: which part seems to be a pain?
[09:54] <Milkyy> I recnofigured that 'CTRL+S' to CTRL+K and now it seems to work fine :)
[09:54] <Jucato> ah
[09:55] <Milkyy> ilkyy: although if I'm going to search in Google, I just press F6 then "gg:<search terms>"
[09:55] <Milkyy> that part
[09:55] <leleobhz> Jucato: thanks!
[09:55] <sinpath> damn well i do all this in the morning i need sleep thanks <arunkale>
[09:55] <Jucato> hm.. I don't get why, because if you're going to press Ctrl+K, and type in your search terms, isn't that the same as pressing F6 and typing in gg:my search ?
[09:55] <arunkale> you're welcome
[09:55] <sinpath> night all
[09:56] <arunkale> night
[09:56] <Seagoon> hi, can someone please tell me how to change hdd labels in Kubuntu?
[09:57] <Milkyy> not for me, Jucato. Pressing F6 makes me have to move my up to that button, while in the case of CTRL-K I can just press those buttons instantly. And I'm also so used to it in Firefox :P
[09:57] <Milkyy> I really miss Firefox's extensions though
[09:57] <Jucato> Milkyy: I forgot, F6 = Ctrl+L and L is beside K
[09:57] <Milkyy> especially Foxmarks
[09:57] <Milkyy> yeah
[09:57] <Milkyy> exactly
[09:58] <Cherries> Win :D
[09:58] <Jucato> no, I meant, Pressing Ctrl+L in Konqueror is the same as pressing F6...
[09:58] <Cherries> Im new to IRC :)
[09:58] <arunkale> I would like to know too Seagoon
[09:58] <Milkyy> yeah
[09:58] <Jucato> but anyway... why not use Firefox? it's good too (I use Konqueror, most of the time, though)
[09:59] <Seagoon> Can't seem to find much on Google about it
[09:59] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, firefox ftw
[09:59] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: I'm beginning to think that way... but still love Konqueror :P
[10:00] <Milkyy> Jucato: well I only have 1GB RAM so it feels like a waste of it to have both konqueror and firefox running at the same time (if I for instance want to file-browse...)
[10:00] <Milkyy> that's mainly why not
[10:00] <Admiral_Chicago> Konqui is sooo slow
[10:00] <Jucato> we have the same amount of RAM, and it's not that heavy.
[10:00] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: as a browser or as an app?
[10:01] <Milkyy> I guess
[10:01] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, browser
[10:01] <Admiral_Chicago> i like the GUI so much better
[10:01] <Nik001> hi there
[10:01] <Admiral_Chicago> and extensions are where its at
[10:01] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: not really Konqui's fault though... :(
[10:02] <Milkyy> Oh well, thanks Jucato :)
[10:02] <Admiral_Chicago> for file browsing. Konqui all the way
[10:02] <motorcitymadman> Seagoon: try this: e2label
[10:02] <Admiral_Chicago>  i just don't feel comfortable with it
[10:02] <Jucato> it would be nice to have more extensions for Konqui, like Firefox. but I think there might be security issues there, specially since Konqi is also a file manager...
[10:02] <Nik001> I have problems watching the last apple webcast with firefox- anyone has the same problem?
[10:02] <Milkyy> Yeah :/
[10:02] <Milkyy> probably
[10:03] <motorcitymadman> Seagoon: For Ext2/Ext3 filesystems
[10:03] <arunkale> is there an equivalent to expose (os x) for kubuntu
[10:03] <Nik001> can you help me?
[10:03] <Jucato> arunkale: kompose
[10:03] <Cherries> Could anyone teach me the basics of IRC?
[10:03] <Cherries> Or point me in the direction of a tutorial
[10:03] <Seagoon> motorcitymadman: will I have to reboot to see the changes?
[10:04] <motorcitymadman> Seagoon: For ReiserFS:reiserfstune --label NewLabel <device>
[10:04] <arunkale> Jucato: kompos?
[10:04] <Milkyy> what is expose arunkale?
[10:04] <arunkale> kompose*?
[10:04] <themadscotsman> ok i have kubuntu install only have / and swap....want to install another distro....if i re-size hda1 will it destroy my existing data
[10:04] <Jucato> !kompose
[10:04] <ubotu> kompose: full screen task manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.3-1.3 (dapper), package size 92 kB, installed size 432 kB
[10:04] <arunkale> expose is an app in os x, which lets you switch easily between app windows
[10:04] <Milkyy> ah ok
[10:04] <Jucato> arunkale: I know.
[10:05] <motorcitymadman> Seagoon: not sure, but i wood say not
[10:05] <Seagoon> motorcitymadman: its an ext3 partition, might try rebooting - thanks for your help
[10:05] <Jucato> arunkale:  would you care to take a look at it first?
[10:05] <Nik001> anyone is able to watch the last apple webcast with ubuntu?
[10:05] <arunkale> Milkyy asked
[10:05] <motorcitymadman> Seagoon: try without reboot
[10:05] <arunkale> Jucato: yeah, checking it out
[10:05] <arunkale> do you use it at all?
[10:05] <Jucato> arunkale: I've set my Alt+Tab to use it
[10:05] <Seagoon> motorcitymadman: just did, still appearing in kde as original volume label
[10:06] <motorcitymadman> Seagoon: maybe just log out
[10:06] <Admiral_Chicago> arunkale, maybe XGL?
[10:06] <swatgoss> is there an easy way to configure Samba ?
[10:06] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: that's too much for a simple expose-clone...
[10:07] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, i suppose but it's a lot of eyecandy, wihch is waht i think Macs are
[10:07] <Jucato> well, they have those without XGL :P
[10:07] <Seagoon> motorcitymadman: I'll give it a go
[10:08] <Admiral_Chicago> well i'm off to bed
[10:08] <Admiral_Chicago> ttel
[10:08] <Admiral_Chicago> ttul*
[10:08] <arunkale> Jucato: how do i configure it once it's downloaded
[10:09] <Nik001> help with quicktime plugin please!!!
[10:09] <Jucato> arunkale: It will be in K Menu > Utilities. once you run it, you will have a system tray icon for it. right-click to Configure
[10:09] <arunkale> cool, thanks :)
[10:09] <arunkale> does it have the cool animation effects of expose?
[10:10] <Jucato> arunkale: unfortunately, no :(
[10:10] <arunkale> damn
[10:10] <Jucato> for that, you really need something like XGL
[10:10] <arunkale> hmm
[10:10] <Milkyy> and it's in pre-alpha, sort of...
[10:10] <arunkale> i've heard xgl/compiz is buggy
[10:10] <Milkyy> so don't try it uless you're willing to spend many many hours on it
[10:11] <arunkale> whoa it's nice! :)
[10:12] <Jucato> what's nice?
[10:12] <arunkale> kompose
[10:12] <Jucato> ah
[10:12] <Jucato> :P
[10:12] <arunkale> :)
[10:12] <arunkale> thanks
[10:12] <arunkale> should i get xgl?
[10:13] <octan> hi all
[10:13] <flaccid> yeah compiz buggy
[10:13] <Milkyy> it's not something to recommend at the moment
[10:13] <flaccid> alpha
[10:13] <octan> compiz is not buggy here
[10:13] <Jucato> arunkale: not unless you're feeling adventurous
[10:13] <arunkale> haha
[10:13] <Jucato> octan: doesn't mean it won't be buggy anywhere else :P
[10:13] <arunkale> well, my video card probably doesnt support it
[10:13] <octan> :P Jucato i know :P
[10:14] <octan> i been lucky
[10:14] <Jucato> arunkale: if it's an IGP, then no. but anything else is probably supported
[10:14] <Nik001> help. do you know hpow to watch apple quicktime webcast???????????
[10:15] <Milkyy> kompose didn't seem to install itself under Utilities
[10:15] <Nik001> ???
[10:15] <Nik001> some advise?
[10:15] <arunkale> whats an igp
[10:15] <Jucato> Milkyy: try to run "kbuildsycoca --incremental" in Konsole and look again in K Menu
[10:16] <Jucato> arunkale: Integrated Graphics um... (forgot the P)
[10:16] <arunkale> Milkyy: you'll have to restart x
[10:16] <Jucato> a built-in video card
[10:16] <Jucato> arunkale: not necessary
[10:16] <octan> is ther a way i can set and option for my ssh server that if password is wrong more than 2 time reject ip or do a connection refused?
[10:16] <arunkale> or if you can't wait, press alt + f2 and type kompose
[10:16] <arunkale> yeha i have an integrated card
[10:16] <Milkyy> Jucato: kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[10:16] <Jucato> Milkyy: ignore those error messages
[10:17] <Jucato> check your K Menu again
[10:17] <Milkyy> nice it's there :)
[10:18] <Milkyy> wow kompos IS nice :)
[10:18] <magusofthestorm> quick question, is there something in KDE to check where all my memory is being used?
[10:19] <Jucato> magusofthestorm: Ctrl+Esc ?
[10:20] <magusofthestorm> thanks, that's it, kinda new to KDE
[10:20] <Milkyy> thanks for that too, didn't know that either
[10:20] <aceofspades> huh
[10:20] <TeZ> any guru's here that could help translate 'techanees' installation instructions to 'dumees' ?
[10:20] <aceofspades> Looks like Mirc but better
[10:21] <TeZ> trying to setup the drivers for a USB WiFi adaptor, but the instructions that come with the driver are way over my head.
[10:22] <aceofspades> hmmmm
[10:22] <aceofspades> How, do i set it so, i can do the undernet service with login and password?
[10:23] <aceofspades> Can someone please tell me.
[10:23] <arunkale> btw, ktorrent is awesome
[10:24] <magusofthestorm> I love ktorrent
[10:24] <Milkyy> I love KDE :o
[10:24] <magusofthestorm> I just wish more people would keep thier torrents seeded.
[10:25] <magusofthestorm> My favorite new toy since dropping windows is amaroK though
[10:26] <Milkyy> yeah that's awesome
[10:26] <Milkyy> when I used Gnome I thought rhythmbox was pretty good but amarok is way better
[10:26] <magusofthestorm> TransKode is really annoying though
[10:27] <Milkyy> what's that?
[10:27] <magusofthestorm> For transcoding your music files
[10:27] <magusofthestorm> it's an amarok script
[10:27] <magusofthestorm> When I finally get it to work it reencodes my mp3s at 32k bitrate
[10:28] <Milkyy> :S
[10:28] <magusofthestorm> I told it 128 in the configuration, I'm just glad I wasn't using "replace old files"
[10:29] <Milkyy> hehe :P
[10:31] <magusofthestorm> anybody know a progarm that'll reencode my music at 128k bitrates without going over and using my girl's windows box?
[10:32] <ubuntu> no
[10:32] <Milkyy> For some reason I can't play .flac files in Amarok now... I was able to before I updated it
[10:33] <magusofthestorm> I wonder what that amaroK update included, I don't notice anything different.
[10:33] <flaccid> me neither
[10:33] <Milkyy> probably just some bug fixes
[10:34] <Milkyy> well maybe I should convert my music collection to ogg anyway...
[10:34] <magusofthestorm> Adept tried to update my quake2 install and managed to not only make it stop working, but give itself a heart attack in the process.
[10:34] <flaccid> won't that loose quality/bits ?
[10:35] <flaccid> magusofthestorm: you have quake2 on linux?
[10:35] <Milkyy> yep it will
[10:35] <Nik001> help help help cannot watch apple quicktime video!!!
[10:35] <magusofthestorm> I would if they'd still work on my iPod as ogg
[10:35] <Milkyy> it's also lose hdd space :P
[10:35] <magusofthestorm> Had quake2 on linux
[10:35] <Milkyy> but I'm not sure... but when I can't play them then why have them :/
[10:35] <magusofthestorm> not working anymore
[10:36] <magusofthestorm> Niether is Kontact or Adept
[10:36] <Nik001> http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/showtime06/
[10:36] <Nik001> can you watch it?
[10:36] <flaccid> magusofthestorm: how do i install?
[10:37] <magusofthestorm> Don't know what went wrong but it's telling me both things are allready logged in and they're not.
[10:38] <magusofthestorm> google it, I don't remember, but it was an rpm package I got.
[10:39] <magusofthestorm> used alien and kpackage and it worked.
[10:40] <magusofthestorm> hmm, I get quicktime in firefow but not konqueror or opera
[10:41] <magusofthestorm> what browser do you use?
[10:41] <Nik001> I use firefox
[10:41] <Nik001> I have problems only with the last apple webcast
[10:41] <Nik001> the last event
[10:41] <magusofthestorm> I did untill a few days ago, somebody convinced me to try opera
[10:42] <magusofthestorm> Aside from having to reinstall java I've really liked it.
[10:44] <magusofthestorm> is it normal for kubuntu with only konvesation and ktorrent running to use 292 megs of ram?
[10:45] <arienh4> i want to start second life, but when i start it, it gives very much warnings
[10:45] <pielgrzym> anyone uses xgl? will it run ok on r9200 (open source drivers)? help plz :)
[10:46] <magusofthestorm> I can't get my system to recognise the fact that I have hardware 3d acceleration.
[10:47] <Electrolyte> Does anyone know of a decent music organiser like Napster for Linux?
[10:47] <Electrolyte> I know Freespire has one, but does Kubuntu?
[10:49] <magusofthestorm> any ideas why a program would go through the whole process of loading and then disappear?
[10:49] <mrdarcy> hi all
[10:49] <magusofthestorm> I just installed mBox to reencode my mp3s, but it won't load.
[10:50] <mrdarcy> i glad about my desktop
[10:50] <mrdarcy> kubuntu
[10:50] <mrdarcy> hehe
[10:50] <magusofthestorm> It gives me the little bouncy icon and the loading thing in the panel but exits as soon as it's done loading
[10:51] <Electrolyte> For goodness sake.
[10:51] <Electrolyte> That's twice KDE has locked up.
[10:52] <Kiongku> anyone knows how to mount an iso file?
[10:52] <arienh4>  i want to start second life, but when i start it, it gives very much warnings
[10:52] <frankm> on a cd?
[10:53] <frankm> Kiongku:On a cd?
[10:53] <Kiongku> frankm: nope *.iso file on hd
[10:54] <Kiongku> frankm: like virtual drive
[10:54] <magusofthestorm> I haven't figured out how to do virtual drives on linux, used daemon tools under windows but haven't found an equivilant yet
[10:54] <timi> all of a sudden xine is unable to initialize aduo drivers wht do i do to remedy this
[10:55] <Kiongku> ya.. same here
[10:55] <insanekane> Kiongku: you have to use a loopback device to mount isos
[10:55] <Milkyy> magusofthestorm: you can mount .iso files using the console
[10:55] <flucker> hi! anybody know hy I get these errors:
[10:55] <flucker> hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
[10:55] <flucker> hda: task_in_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=232550759, high=13, low=14446951, sector=232550759
[10:55] <flucker> ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[10:55] <flucker> end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 232550759
[10:55] <flucker> ReiserFS: hda8: warning: vs-13070: reiserfs_read_locked_inode: i/o failure occurred trying to find stat data of [77579 120294 0x0 SD] 
[10:55] <frankm> Kiongku:Then I dont know how
[10:55] <flucker> can't be good?
[10:55] <insanekane> flucker: that happens to me too .. for my almost busted hdd
[10:56] <flucker> damn!
[10:56] <magusofthestorm> regular mount?
[10:56] <flucker> yes
[10:57] <insanekane> i think, mount -t loop <path to iso> ... iirc
[10:57] <insanekane> i think, mount -t loop <path to iso> <path to mount point>... iirc
[10:57] <Milkyy> yeah
[10:57] <Milkyy> or it's
[10:57] <johey> How can I see which is the latest version of a package?
[10:57] <Milkyy> mount -t iso9660 -o loop <path to iso> <path to mount point>
[10:57] <Milkyy> I think
[10:58] <Kiongku> insanekane: loopback device?
[10:58] <Milkyy> http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Mounting_Iso_Files
[10:58] <Milkyy> magusofthestorm
[10:58] <magusofthestorm> I think there was something wrong in my last update, flash player went nuts, kontact thinks it's allready logged in and addept thinks the same thing.
[10:58] <flucker> insanekane: so my hdd is go'in 2 hell? then I guess I have 2 save what can be saved!
[10:58] <magusofthestorm> yes? Sorry, not registered
[10:59] <insanekane> flucker: it seems so yes
[10:59] <insanekane> Kiongku: see what Milkyy wrote
[10:59] <flucker> insanekane: thx for the help!
[10:59] <Kiongku> ya
[10:59] <llxcamxll> ok, i'm heaps like noobian prince, so if i put kubuntu on my friends computer, can i access his files from my house?
[11:00] <magusofthestorm> anyone know how to make those links launch with opera instead of konquerer?
[11:00] <Milkyy> magusofthestorm: in Settings
[11:00] <Milkyy> Behaviour
[11:01] <Kiongku> Milkyy: nice command.. how do i unmount then?
[11:02] <insanekane> Kiongku: umount  <path to mount point>
[11:02] <Milkyy> umount
[11:03] <TeZ> could anyone help me with installing some drivers for a USB network adaptor? the instructions are way over my head.
[11:03] <Kiongku> thx
[11:04] <Milkyy> np
[11:04] <Kiongku> i had a randomly named iso.. guess now i know what it is :)
[11:05] <Milkyy> ok :p
[11:06] <bamako> hello
[11:06] <llxcamxll> how can i let specific people access my computer from they're house
[11:06] <bamako> Krfb
[11:06] <Milkyy> Krfb / Krdc
[11:07] <llxcamxll> but how, tutorials needed
[11:08] <Kiongku> !krfb
[11:08] <ubotu> krfb: Desktop Sharing for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6.2 (dapper), package size 913 kB, installed size 1632 kB
[11:08] <Kiongku> !krdc
[11:08] <ubotu> krdc: Remote Desktop Connection for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6.2 (dapper), package size 490 kB, installed size 956 kB
[11:08] <Bropho> hello
[11:08] <llxcamxll> k
[11:09] <Kiongku> yo Jucato
[11:09] <magusofthestorm> what're the commands to mount and unmound an ipod, I need to set up pre & post connection commands in amarok.
[11:09] <Jucato> hi
[11:09] <Bropho> how do i paly mp3's in linux
[11:10] <magusofthestorm> get lame
[11:10] <Bropho> get wat
[11:10] <Milkyy> sudo apt-get install lame
[11:10] <Jucato> Bropho: install "libxine-extracodecs"
[11:10] <Bropho> ok
[11:10] <Kiongku> !libxine-extracodecs
[11:10] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[11:11] <Bropho> ok
[11:11] <magusofthestorm> lame works with gstreamer apps too
[11:11] <Kiongku> !lame
[11:11] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB
[11:12] <Bropho> ok get it with sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs right?
[11:12] <Kiongku> ya
[11:12] <Bropho> it didnt work
[11:12] <Kiongku> enable ur repos
[11:13] <Bropho> enable what
[11:13] <magusofthestorm> try getting it with synaptic
[11:13] <Kiongku> repositories
[11:13] <llxcamxll> ok so if i give someone the address they can connect to me through krdc if they got the password right?
[11:13] <Kiongku> Bropho: open ur adept package manager
[11:14] <Bropho> i searched synaptic nothing came up
[11:14] <Jucato_> Bropho: you need to enable multiverse to get "libxine-extracodecs"
[11:14] <Bropho> how
[11:14] <Jucato> you're using Synaptic?
[11:14] <Kiongku> Bropho: ya
[11:15] <Jucato> !multiverse
[11:15] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:15] <Jucato> If you're using Adept ^^^^^^
[11:15] <Kiongku> Bropho: Settings > repositories
[11:15] <Jucato> If you're using synaptic: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[11:15] <Bropho> i use adept as well
[11:15] <Kiongku> Bropho: any1 will do
[11:15] <Jucato> well, either-or
[11:16] <Bropho> ok what do i do
[11:16] <Jucato> whichever you're more comfortable with
[11:16] <Jucato> follow those guides
[11:16] <llxcamxll> can someone connect to my desktop so i can try this out
[11:16] <Bropho> ok
[11:16] <Bropho> then wat
[11:16] <Kiongku> then update.. and then install -_-
[11:16] <Bropho> ok
[11:17] <llxcamxll> anyone?
[11:17] <Kiongku> llxcamxll: ask one of ur friends its betetr :)
[11:17] <Jucato> and safer
[11:17] <Kiongku> hehe
[11:17] <Kiongku> ya
[11:17] <llxcamxll> this is fresh format so like nothing to hide
[11:18] <llxcamxll> and how easy this desktop sharing is depends on if they get it
[11:18] <Kiongku> lol anyway dunt have kdrc ( '')
[11:19] <llxcamxll> 10.0.0.2:0
[11:19] <llxcamxll> that don't seem right
[11:19] <magusofthestorm> I just found an antivirus program for linux
[11:20] <Bropho> i know about resportories but how do i get libxine-extracodecs
[11:20] <Jucato> Bropho: you need to enable the multiverse repository to get it
[11:20] <Bropho> how do i do taht
[11:20] <Kiongku> magusofthestorm: and?.. there had been those programs around for some time
[11:20] <Jucato> I thought you said you knew about repoisitories?
[11:21] <Jucato> Bropho: those links have a section about "adding Multiverse"
[11:21] <Bropho> ok
[11:21] <magusofthestorm> took me a while to find one
[11:21] <Kiongku> lol..
[11:22] <magusofthestorm> take the # out of the address line in etc/apt/sources.list
[11:22] <Kiongku> doh magusofthestormu'll just make him more confuse..
[11:22] <Jucato> (actually he needs to add the word "multiverse"...)
[11:22] <llxcamxll> ok so like all i have to do is give someone the ip address and password then they can connect to me?
[11:23] <magusofthestorm> You want easy, install automatix.
[11:23] <magusofthestorm> or rune easy ubuntu
[11:23] <magusofthestorm> both of them add mp3 support
[11:23] <magusofthestorm> probably easy ubuntu
[11:24] <kraut> moin
[11:24] <zorglu_> !register
[11:24] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:26] <Bropho> i give up
[11:26] <Jucato> ??
[11:26] <Kiongku> Bropho: lol.. its so simple..
[11:26] <Jucato> Bropho: what are you using right now? Synaptic or Adept?
[11:26] <Bropho> I havnt been using linux for that long
[11:26] <Bropho> adept
[11:27] <Jucato> Bropho: go to the Adept menu and select Manage Repositories
[11:27] <llxcamxll> the multiverse hurdle
[11:27] <Kiongku> how much time Bropho?
[11:27] <Jucato> (I'm basically repeating what's written in the guide...)
[11:27] <Jucato> Bropho: look for a line that says something like "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe"
[11:27] <ricsike> helo
[11:28] <Jucato> Bropho: click on that line, then click on the word "universe" so it becomes editable. ADD (do not replace) the word "multiverse" so that it becomes "universe multiverse"
[11:28] <ricsike> exit
[11:28] <magusofthestorm> Makes me feel better about still being stuck on installing from source after 3 weeks on linux.
[11:29] <Kiongku> magusofthestorm: hmm?
[11:29] <Jucato> Bropho: press Enter, right-click on the line to Enable it (if it isn't enabled yet), click on the Apply button at the bottom, then Close. Then click on "Fetch Updates" at the toolbar at the top
[11:30] <Bropho> aadept wont open
[11:30] <Bropho> never mind it opned
[11:30] <Kiongku> haha
[11:30] <Werdna> !commontasks
[11:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about commontasks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:31] <Werdna> damn
[11:31] <llxcamxll> !abuse
[11:31] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:31] <morghanphoenix> nickserv identify Trustno1
[11:31] <Werdna> o_O
[11:32] <Bropho> where do i find manage respositories
[11:32] <morghanphoenix> yup
[11:32] <morghanphoenix> lol
[11:32] <Jucato> Bropho: Adept menu at the top
[11:32] <Werdna> Where's the page on common tasks?
[11:32] <Kiongku> nickserv identify Trustme
[11:32] <Jucato> Werdna: try doing a search at http://help.ubuntu.com/community or at http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:33] <Werdna> found it, never mind
[11:33] <morghanphoenix> okay, now how do I change a nickserv password?
[11:33] <Werdna> morghanphoenix, /ns set password <newpass>
[11:35] <frankie_> salve a tutti...
[11:36] <frankie_> vi pongo un quesito
[11:36] <Kiongku> what language is that hmm
[11:36] <fdoving> !it
[11:36] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:37] <Kiongku> oh o0
[11:37] <frankie_> sorry
[11:44] <martinjh99> Is there a way of getting XGL to work on KDE?  I have a Radeon x1300...
[11:45] <zorglu_> xgl has been reported as working on kde, the point is more about your gfx card
[11:45] <zorglu_> !xgl
[11:45] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:46] <phreakys_> hello
[11:46] <martinjh99> Cheers mate will have a look at that page - I saw it running on the latest Mandriva One live CD...  I wondered if I could get it going on KDE on Kubuntu...
[11:46] <luca_b> it works not so well because there isn't a window decorator for XGL for KDE
[11:46] <phreakys_> i just installed 686 kernel instead of 386, because i read that its supposed to be faster?
[11:46] <Kiongku> ya...
[11:47] <phreakys_> but when i boot with the new kernel, it hangs on the acpi thing
[11:47] <phreakys_> whats up with that?
[11:47] <CVirus> phreakys_: if you have a Dual core processor or a pentium 4 processor that supports Hyper Threading then you should use 686-smp kernel
[11:48] <phreakys_> ive got a centrino. is that any good for 686?
[11:48] <phreakys_> its a laptop :/
[11:48] <CVirus> I guess so
[11:48] <phreakys_> im trying to get some performance here, because kubuntu runs so slow
[11:49] <CVirus> phreakys_: If you really want KDE then you should accept it as it is .. slow
[11:50] <phreakys_> hm, i like the options kde offer, but yes...its slow
[11:50] <phreakys_> gnome is no option :/
[11:50] <CVirus> phreakys_: how about XFce ?
[11:51] <Kiongku> phreakys_: how much ram?
[11:51] <phreakys_> 1024 mb
[11:51] <Kiongku> should be good..
[11:51] <CVirus> you gotta be kidding
[11:51] <Kiongku> anyway gtg bye every1
[11:51] <phreakys_> yea, it was bloody fast under windoze
[11:51] <Kiongku> i got 1024
[11:52] <phreakys_> ill check XFce
[11:52] <Kiongku> and its fast enough for me
[11:52] <phreakys_> yea
[11:52] <CVirus> it should be blood fast with KDE too
[11:52] <CVirus> bloody*
[11:52] <luca_b> phreakys_: I think it's just an optimization isue
[11:52] <CVirus> yeah
[11:52] <CVirus> exactly
[11:52] <luca_b> I have a P4M and 1 Gb RAM, it works great
[11:52] <phreakys_> yea, so im trying to optimize
[11:52] <phreakys_> but not knowing exactly how
[11:52] <CVirus> I'm running on a 512MB of ram and its working perfectly
[11:53] <phreakys_> maybe the 686 kernel makes a difference
[11:53] <phreakys_> i need to boot with it though, without acpi blocking me
[11:54] <phreakys_> where can i put a -noacpi switch?
[11:55] <phreakys_> hello
[11:55] <phreakys_> does anyone know why the 686 kernel tends to hang on acpi?
[11:58] <CVirus> phreakys_: pass this kernel parameter at boot ... acpi=off
[12:00] <phreakys_> where do i add that parameter?
[12:00] <phreakys_> is there a grub file or something?
[12:00] <zorglu_> phreakys_: /boot/grub/menu.lst is this file :)
[12:01] <phreakys_> ah thanks
[12:02] <phreakys_> k, lets try
[12:14] <frankie_> Mythbusters, nonostante la connessione sia attiva
[12:17] <utente> ciao
[12:17] <utente> per me  il primo giorno da utente linux........ che figata.....!!!!
[12:17] <fdoving> !it
[12:17] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:17] <bledy> ti piace?
[12:18] <utente> ok, im sorry
[12:18] <utente> yes sure
[12:18] <utente> its wonderfull
[12:19] <utente> however, nice to meet u Bledy
[12:19] <_tmdx120> My westell 327w wireless router is inaccessible. Can anyone help?
[12:19] <bledy> thanks utentye
[12:19] <bledy> me tu
[12:19] <bledy> too
[12:19] <utente> bye bye
[12:19] <bledy> bye
[12:21] <bledy> can anybody tell me how can i install skype?
[12:26] <CVirus> bledy: STFW
[12:26] <fdoving> !skype
[12:26] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[12:26] <fdoving> bledy: ^^
[12:27] <phreakys_> hm
[12:27] <phreakys_> no luck
[12:28] <phreakys_> acpi doesnt work with the new kernel and network support is disabled
[12:28] <_tmdx120> Ever since I 'upgraded' to Dapper I have had MANY problems, including being unable to recognize my usb ports.
[12:28] <_tmdx120> can anyone help
[12:29] <CVirus> hmm ... Binray distros seems to be stupid when it comes to major upgrades
[12:30] <bledy> YES, cVIRUS, FDOVING
[12:30] <CVirus> bledy: exuse me ?
[12:30] <bledy> PLEASE
[12:30] <CVirus> excuse me ?
[12:30] <CVirus> bledy: caps lock !
[12:30] <CVirus> bledy: whats wrong ?
[12:30] <bledy> I NEED TO INSTALL SKYPE
[12:31] <bledy> BUT I DONT KNOW
[12:31] <bledy> ITRIED BUT SAYS ACCES DENIED
[12:31] <CVirus> bledy: fucken' press the caps lock key while talking to me
[12:31] <bledy> ok excuse me
[12:33] <CVirus> bledy: its okay .. follow that page  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[12:33] <m3xican> hi
[12:33] <bledy> ok
[12:35] <bledy> than?
[12:35] <bledy> where should i click?
[12:39] <llxcamxll> i just got flightgear off of adept but like where has it gone...
[12:42] <llxcamxll> i don't understand
[12:42] <llxcamxll> its installed but cannot be found
[12:42] <jamadagni> anyone knows how to get apt-move to work with universe and multiverse?
[12:42] <jamadagni>  tried it with my local apt cahce but it left out a lot of packages which were from those two categories
[12:43] <bledy> tanks for all
[12:43] <bledy> have a nice day
[12:43] <bledy> bye
[12:43] <fbezerra> someone can help me how install java and macromedia flash plugins on kubuntu for amd 64?
[12:44] <CVirus> fbezerra: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:45] <slow-motion> hallo
[12:45] <jamadagni> @CVirus can you help with my query too?
[12:45] <CVirus> jamadagni: sorry I cant as you havent stated it yet
[12:45] <jamadagni> see above
[12:45] <jamadagni> about apt-move
[12:46] <CVirus> jamadagni: no idea really
[12:48] <ROBOd> hello guys
[12:48] <fbezerra> thanks CVirus
[12:48] <CVirus> fbezerra: no problem
[12:48] <ROBOd> i had amarok 1.4.3 and from the kubuntu amarok-latest repositories
[12:48] <ROBOd> today it has been updated
[12:49] <ROBOd> it lost some french translation strings
[12:49] <ROBOd> same version: amarok 1.4.3
[12:49] <ROBOd> why?
[12:49] <ROBOd> not only a few french translation strings were lost. actually, quite many
[12:49] <ROBOd> and it's disappointing
[01:08] <WeeD> Hi everyone
[01:08] <WeeD> Im new to kubuntu and I am having trouble installing deb packages
[01:08] <WeeD> Specifically WINE
[01:08] <WeeD> Anyone available to help me?
[01:09] <fdoving> !wine
[01:09] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:09] <WeeD> Yeah, so...
[01:09] <WeeD> When I run the cmd in konsole: dpkg --force-arch=i686 -i wine_0.9.21~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06-1_i386.deb
[01:09] <WeeD> It has an error message, even wht I put the full path
[01:09] <zorglu_> !info libtunepimp
[01:09] <ubotu> Package libtunepimp does not exist in any distro I know
[01:10] <WeeD> It says: Unknown force/refuse option 'arch=i686'
[01:10] <fdoving> zorglu_: libtunepimp3
[01:11] <WeeD> So am I supposed to force i386 instead? It stil says the same error
[01:11] <zorglu_> fdoving: the one shipped by ubuntu doesnt have mp3 support which cause trouble in 'fillin tag' on mp3 with amarok
[01:12] <zorglu_> fdoving: working about with another repository http://packages.czessi.net/dapper_section.php?show=libs&i18n=en
[01:12] <WeeD> Thanks for the link zorglu
[01:13] <zorglu_> WeeD: hue ? you sure ? :) i wasnt answering to your question
[01:13] <WeeD> Oh
[01:13] <WeeD> Umm, well The system funning Kubuntu has to internet connection
[01:14] <fdoving> zorglu_: ah, understand.
[01:14] <WeeD> So I was wondering hwo to install deb package i DLed
[01:18] <WeeD> Hello?
[01:19] <WeeD> Echo! Echo! Echo!
[01:19] <m3xican> WeeD: use Adept
[01:19] <WeeD> Okay
[01:20] <WeeD> So am I gonna 'Manage Repositories' and add the deb package?
[01:20] <WeeD> Simple as that?
[01:20] <WeeD> Or is that going to self-destruct?
[01:21] <zorglu_> ok i didnt follow, can you reexplain your problem ?
[01:21] <WeeD> Sorry
[01:21] <WeeD> Well
[01:21] <nagyv> I just tried to watch some cnn reports, but it asks for Windows Media Player 9+. How could I watch cnn videos with Kaffeine?
[01:21] <WeeD> The system running kubuntu has no internet so apt wont work
[01:21] <WeeD> WINE is an issue
[01:22] <WeeD> I need to know how to install the deb package I installed and transferred over to the system
[01:22] <WeeD> Well, I havent installed it yet, just need to know how deb packages are handled
[01:23] <m3xican> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#head-c0628aa246e0b55ea2009705d1b5a84ede8736b5
[01:23] <zorglu_> you are not in a easy case
[01:23] <zorglu_> 1. no internet
[01:23] <zorglu_> 2. trying to get wmv9
[01:23] <zorglu_> in short, "dpkg -i yourpackagenamegoeshere.deb"
[01:24] <abaldwin> hello
[01:24] <WeeD> Okay
[01:24] <abaldwin> is the US International keyboard layout not available to Kubuntu?
[01:24] <zorglu_> WeeD: but i guess it wont be enought :( unfortuntly i have no time to help you
[01:24] <WeeD> Thank you anyways
[01:24] <zorglu_> abaldwin: yes. somewhere in "menu -> system setting"
[01:24] <WeeD> :)
[01:24] <abaldwin> I can''t find it in the keyboard layouts offered therein
[01:25] <abaldwin> US English, yes, but US International, no.
[01:25] <zorglu_> ah ok
[01:25] <abaldwin> I need to have access to accent marks so that i can also type in French, Spanish and Portuguese
[01:25] <zorglu_> then i dunno
[01:25] <Steven_M> does anyone know why the screen resolution is different if I start fluxbox using startx -- :1 than when I start it through kdm?
[01:25] <llxcamxll> what do i need to make kaffeine play dvd's with menu's??
[01:26] <WeeD> zorglu: It is now saying that the package architecture (i386) doesnt match (amd64)
[01:26] <zorglu_> WeeD: and you are running in 64bit ?
[01:26] <WeeD> Yes
[01:26] <WeeD> Do I add this? dpkg --force-arch=i686 -i wine_0.9.21~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06-1_i386.deb
[01:26] <zorglu_> WeeD: you are *really* in a complex case :)
[01:27] <WeeD> Lo, Ill come back then
[01:27] <zorglu_> WeeD: you cant force that
[01:27] <zorglu_> WeeD: well it may install but it wont run
[01:27] <abaldwin>  I''m just trying out Kubu on the liveCD, but seriously considering a migration fro FC, but I can''t work without US International keyboard layout (I''m a translator)
[01:27] <zorglu_> ok im off to work
[01:27] <WeeD> If you are busy, please recommend somre+
[01:27] <zorglu_> have fun people :)
[01:27] <WeeD> If you are busy, please recommend some other time to chat
[01:28] <zorglu_> come back during a evening time, always more people to help that in a weekend morning
[01:28] <WeeD> Thx!
[01:29] <WeeD> zorglu, if you were a linux dist. I would install you ALL night!
[01:29] <Steven_M> how do I know what kdm is setting my screen resolution to?
[01:29] <llxcamxll> secret
[01:42] <rod> hi, this may not be the place to ask this, or even the right question to ask, but does anyone know anything about saving streaming audio from an embedded flash player?  pointers to sources of info would be much appriciated, thanks.
[01:48] <utente> bla
[01:48] <utente> bla
[01:48] <utente> bla
[01:48] <utente> bla
[01:48] <utente> bla
[01:49] <utente> ciao mega
[01:49] <marghe> au
[01:49] <Merlin840> grr.. my mac mini is being a pain in the ass
[01:49] <utente> sono tornato
[01:50] <Merlin840> trying to re-install OSX on it. But it refuses to boot from CD.
[01:50] <marghe> ahahhahaah
[01:51] <utente> mamma mia
[01:51] <utente> il telefono nn la chat
[01:51] <marghe> ahahahhah
[01:51] <marghe> beh dai  stata una scena divertente
[01:51] <marghe> mega
[01:51] <utente> se se
[01:51] <marghe> ma cambiati nome
[01:52] <marghe>  brutto chiamarsi utente
[01:52] <utente> dove??
[01:52] <Jucato> !it
[01:52] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:52] <alex_yo> my kbfx doesn't work! have i to activate it? is there a wiki for using kbfx
[01:53] <marghe> ma come faccio a andare su ubuntu it
[01:53] <marghe> oh utente help me
[01:53] <utente> la linguetta in basso a sinistra... freenode
[01:54] <utente> clicca e poi scrivi ubuntu.it
[01:55] <utente> ou
[01:55] <marghe> eh nn mi da
[01:55] <utente> un second please
[01:56] <wanki> q
[01:59] <abaldwin> I think I got it
[01:59] <nath> bonjour
[02:06] <marcelloDoItBeTt> marghe
[02:09] <marcelloDoItBeTt> margheeeeeeeeeeeeee
[02:09] <Linux_Galore> what sad bastard would do that to Linux
[02:10] <SAngeli> Hi, I need help in accieving the followings: 1) replace in Xorg "nv" with "nvidia" and therefore install nvidia drivers 2) Implement transparencies. First, could it be that I already have nvidia drivers but just need to replace nv with nvidia? If so, how to do so? manually or GUI?
[02:10] <Dalkus> Hi, I'm having trouble getting an internet connection on a fresh install of kubuntu. When I run the liveCD, I have a connection, but once I have installed it to my harddrive I get "network is unreachable" when It try to ping anything. Any hints please?
[02:10] <SAngeli> As for transparency I have to add the line "Option Composite Enable" in xorg.conf. Do I do so manually?
[02:12] <Merlin840> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263477
[02:13] <main2> Dalkus: still around?
[02:14] <Dalkus> yep
[02:14] <main2> Dalkus: kan you start a konsole?
[02:14] <Dalkus> sure, it's open
[02:14] <main2> ifconfig
[02:14] <main2> eth0 is probably the one you should have inet on, i guess
[02:14] <main2> Dalkus: does eth0 have a ip? (ip4)
[02:14] <Dalkus> yep? It's all correct
[02:14] <main2> are you sure?
[02:15] <Dalkus> definate
[02:15] <main2> can you try to ping your router/modem?
[02:15] <main2> that will be something like 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.0.1
[02:15] <brush01uk> Greetings Everyone, Have a good weekend :-)
[02:16] <main2> thank you brush01uk :-))
[02:16] <Dalkus> umm, that's bizzare. Earlier I got a "network unreachable", now I can ping both the router and google
[02:16] <main2> Dalkus: it might took a sec to get a ip via dhcp
[02:17] <Dalkus> okay, well thanks main2
[02:17] <main2> keep an eye on it.., you might want to use a static :-))
[02:17] <main2> ur welcome
[02:17] <Dalkus> will do, thanks
[02:17] <Merlin840> this mac is making me angry... :'(
[02:19] <brush01uk> back soon, on the phone :-)
[02:22] <main2> SAngeli: solved it?
[02:22] <SAngeli> I did so. I changed to nvidia but it is quite slow to move mouse around
[02:22] <SAngeli> Should I restart my pc?
[02:23] <main2> no
[02:23] <main2> do you know konsole?
[02:23] <SAngeli> yes
[02:23] <main2> open it up
[02:23] <SAngeli> it is opened
[02:23] <main2> dmesg
[02:24] <main2> you see some errors in the last lines?
[02:24] <SAngeli> anything in particular to see | grep ... ?
[02:24] <main2> nahhh.. just take a look at the last lines
[02:24] <main2> SAngeli: ok the following,
[02:24] <main2> type: sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:25] <main2> after about a line or 20, you see some 'Load 'modulename'' lines
[02:25] <main2> have you added glx?
[02:25] <Electrolyte> Anyone able to help? I can't play any DVD, it just says "The resource cannot be read" then comes up with "No plugin to handle dvd:/"
[02:25] <Electrolyte> Using Kaffeine, and have the xine-extracodecs installed.
[02:25] <XTorchedX> in kopete, image transfers and webcam aren't working for MSN
[02:25] <SAngeli> main2, yes it is already there
[02:25] <main2> Load "glx" right?
[02:26] <SAngeli> yes
[02:26] <drnoone> anyone has a Compro Videomate Gold Remote Control working under Ubuntu Dapper?
[02:26] <SAngeli> it is very slow to move around
[02:26] <main2> ok, SAngeli we do a test..
[02:26] <main2> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |grep (NVIDIA)
[02:27] <main2> sorry
[02:27] <SAngeli> I have just disabled trasparencies from kde and now it is fine and fast.
[02:27] <main2> without the (Brackets)
[02:27] <SAngeli> but let's see what is wrong.
[02:27] <main2> .. cat the lines.. or run glxinfo
[02:28] <main2> glxgears, tell me if hware acceleration is running
[02:28] <SAngeli> main2, here is the output with one error:
[02:28] <SAngeli> one se
[02:28] <SAngeli> sec
[02:28] <Electrolyte> No matter, got it working.
[02:29] <main2> Electrolyte: how did you fix it? :)
[02:29] <Electrolyte> did: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[02:29] <SAngeli> main2, here it is http://rafb.net/paste/results/90F83f19.html
[02:30] <SAngeli> main2, is it possible that I am using the wrong driver
[02:30] <SAngeli> ?
[02:31] <main2> lets see
[02:31] <main2> SAngeli: 'bash: syntax error near unexpected token `NVIDIA'' is not an error
[02:31] <Merlin840> if anyone is knowledgeable about Macs.... please speak up :-P
[02:31] <SAngeli> I see
[02:31] <main2> its because (NVIDIA) should be NVIDIA
[02:31] <main2> i gave the wrong command...... grep doesnt handl () like that...
[02:32] <main2> it looks ok
[02:32] <main2> SAngeli: start 'glxinfo'
[02:32] <main2> in konsole, paste it in a bin for me
[02:32] <SAngeli> main2, but I was aware of that and did grep without ()
[02:32] <SAngeli> main2, http://rafb.net/paste/results/5o6FJx38.html
[02:32] <main2> pastebin both your xorg.conf as well..
[02:33] <main2> direct rendering: No
[02:33] <main2> glx is not loaded
[02:33] <SAngeli> main2, http://rafb.net/paste/results/CX2W5l77.html
[02:34] <SAngeli> i did something yesterday following a ubuntu guide for implementing nvidia driver but did something that was not succesfull. let me try to see if I can find the doc
[02:35] <main2> SAngeli:  you added load "GLcore" ?
[02:35] <SAngeli> no, I just executed a command line from konsole
[02:36] <main2> SAngeli: i found the problem
[02:36] <SAngeli> anyway
[02:36] <SAngeli> great
[02:36] <main2> but you have to follow the things im gonna say, k - else it wont work
[02:36] <main2> sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:36] <SAngeli> ready
[02:37] <main2> in the following section:
[02:37] <main2> Section "Device"
[02:37] <main2>   identifier "NVIDIA Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600 GT] "
[02:37] <main2> you see 'Driver "nv"'
[02:37] <SAngeli> yea
[02:37] <SAngeli> I should also replace it with nvidia,right?
[02:37] <NameNomad> when I try to access my extra hard drive, it tells me that it could not mount the device and the error reads as such "mount: can't find /dev/hdb5 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[02:37] <main2> this should become 'driver "nvidia"'
[02:37] <SAngeli> done
[02:37] <NameNomad> I tried looking for the answer on the forums
[02:37] <NameNomad> but came up with nothing
[02:38] <main2> SAngeli: then press 'Ctrl+o
[02:38] <SAngeli> done
[02:38] <NameNomad> do I have to text edit /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab?
[02:38] <main2> to save it, and then ctrl+z
[02:38] <SAngeli> done
[02:38] <main2> SAngeli: press "ctrl+alt+backspace" now (save stuff before doing this)
[02:38] <SAngeli> ok
[02:39] <main2> NameNomad: what did you try to mount it?
[02:39] <SAngeli> main2, I am back
[02:39] <NameNomad> well, open it
[02:39] <NameNomad> but it treats it the same way
[02:39] <NameNomad> mounting and opening are the same error
[02:39] <main2> NameNomad: try to mount it on the console...
[02:40] <main2> mounting and opening are two different things
[02:40] <main2> SAngeli: is it fast / ok now?
[02:40] <SAngeli> main2, here is my glx info: http://rafb.net/paste/results/9CaiFK32.html  I still have my direct rendering: No
[02:40] <SAngeli> let me check
[02:40] <main2> SAngeli: glxinfo |grep direct
[02:40] <main2> is it yes?
[02:41] <SAngeli> it is No
[02:41] <main2> crap.., did you install the nvidia driver using:
[02:41] <main2> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx?
[02:41] <NameNomad> main2: I get the same error
[02:41] <SAngeli> no I did not
[02:41] <main2> open adept
[02:41] <NameNomad> it says it's not in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:41] <main2> NameNomad: tell me what command ur using to mount it
[02:41] <SAngeli> done
[02:42] <NameNomad> sudo mount /dev/hdb5
[02:42] <main2> in the textbox type: nvidia
[02:42] <SAngeli> done
[02:42] <SAngeli> it is not installed
[02:42] <main2> NameNomad: mkdir /media/mydrive
[02:42] <SAngeli> main2, what to install?
[02:42] <main2> NameNomad: mount /dev/hdb5 /media/mydrive
[02:42] <main2> SAngeli: in console > sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:43] <SAngeli> main2, do I have to close adept?
[02:43] <main2> yes
[02:43] <main2> then ctrl+alt+backspace when its installed
[02:43] <main2> (rb, need water)
[02:44] <NameNomad> main2: ok, that has mounted it.  Thank you very much; my poor nubly-ness impedes me :)
[02:45] <SAngeli> main2, here is the error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/GypbIt84.html
[02:45] <SAngeli> main2, still slow
[02:47] <dhq_> i just installed windows xp now how do i get my bootloader back
[02:47] <dhq_> i use kubuntu
[02:47] <tibbar> me too
[02:47] <NameNomad> ofcourse, now it tells me that I can't enter the folder /media/mydrive.  My guess, from looking at the permissions, is that the permissions are restricted to all but the "owner," or root
[02:47] <tibbar> :P
[02:47] <Mortice> !windows
[02:47] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[02:47] <Mortice> erm, no, that's not what i want
[02:48] <SAngeli> main2, are you there?
[02:48] <Mortice> dhq_: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_restore_GRUB_menu_after_Windows_installation
[02:48] <tibbar> how to i add multiverse without backporst to my respo?
[02:49] <main2> SAngeli: yes i am
[02:49] <tibbar> is this how it should look? 'deb http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse'
[02:49] <SAngeli> main2, cool have you seen the error?
[02:50] <main2> NameNomad: its one of those things you have to know...
[02:50] <main2> you never forget
[02:50] <main2> SAngeli: looking at it
[02:50] <NameNomad> main2: yeah, it really is
[02:50] <NameNomad> main2: how do I access the folder using sudo?
[02:50] <NameNomad> main2: shell command 'sudo /media/mydrive'?
[02:50] <main2> SAngeli: doesnt look well
[02:51] <SAngeli> I know. what should I do?
[02:51] <main2> NameNomad: depends on what on the drive you wanne access
[02:51] <NameNomad> the permissions
[02:51] <main2> SAngeli: did you change your default 'display server' ?
[02:51] <SAngeli> from what to what?
[02:51] <main2> from 0:0 to 1:0 ?
[02:51] <main2> or 2
[02:52] <SAngeli> in xorg?
[02:52] <main2> yeah
[02:52] <SAngeli> let me check
[02:52] <SAngeli> what should it be?
[02:52] <main2> SAngeli: can you do me a favor and give me the url of the guide you tried, then i might know what went wrong..
[02:52] <SAngeli> I will try to find it again.
[02:52] <main2> k
[02:52] <SAngeli> one sec please ...
[02:54] <NameNomad> main2: how can I change the permissions on my extra HDD?
[02:54] <NameNomad> I'm trying to access it through Konsole, but failing
[02:54] <main2> 1sec
[02:55] <SAngeli> main2, I see the problem: anytime I change "nv" into "nvidia", save it and restart when I get back to login after that xorg.conf returns to nv
[02:55] <main2> NameNomad: what type of partition is it? (normal ext3?)
[02:55] <main2> SAngeli: because you dont save it
[02:55] <main2> have you used 'ctrl+o' ?
[02:55] <SAngeli> yes i do. It is not the first time I use nano or pico
[02:56] <SAngeli> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7453 2006-09-23 14:55 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:56] <main2> ok, SAngeli
[02:56] <main2> sudo mc
[02:56] <SAngeli> sudo mc
[02:56] <SAngeli> command not found
[02:56] <main2> then press f4 to edit the xorg.conf....
[02:56] <main2> sudo apt-get install mc
[02:56] <main2> sorry.. but this tool is a men's best friend (beside a dog..)
[02:56] <SAngeli> wait. what is sudo mc? I get sudo: mc: command not found
[02:57] <main2> you need to install it first..
[02:57] <main2> sudo apt-get install mc
[02:57] <SAngeli> ok done it
[02:57] <main2> sudo mc
[02:57] <SAngeli> wow
[02:57] <main2> WATCHOUT
[02:58] <SAngeli> one sec let me find the file
[02:58] <redo86> hi at all
[02:58] <main2> this will start the mc tool in root mode, this can be extremely dangerous (you can crupple your sstem)
[02:58] <redo86> can i do a question?:P
[02:58] <main2> SAngeli: take care
[02:58] <main2> redo86: go..
[02:58] <redo86> thx^^ how can i listen mp3 with amarok?
[02:58] <Mortice> !mp3
[02:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:59] <SAngeli> main2,  how to get to /etc/Xorg/xorg.conf?
[03:00] <main2> SAngeli: you can use the cursor keys (arrow keys)
[03:00] <main2> and the tab, to move from left to right side...
[03:00] <octan> How do i drop a spesific ip adresse ?
[03:00] <main2> you can easily copy folders /files this way from one to other location
[03:00] <octan> $IPT -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp  -d $myip -s $ip-to-drop -j DROP ???
[03:01] <main2> SAngeli:  the '..' in the top of the list, makes you go a folder up
[03:02] <SAngeli> main2, I got Error while saving.
[03:02] <SAngeli> main2, I believe it is a permission issue. could it be?
[03:02] <SAngeli> wait-.
[03:02] <octan> anyone?
[03:03] <Jucato> grr. this is really really annoying...
[03:03] <NameNomad> main2: How can I change the permissions for my extra HDD from the console?
[03:03] <main2> NameNomad: it was ext3?
[03:03] <NameNomad> NTFS
[03:03] <main2> AUW
[03:03] <SAngeli> main2, done I saved it
[03:04] <SAngeli> main2, should I try to restart X again now?
[03:04] <main2> NameNomad: NTFS has lots of cons.. better dont use it to write stuff to it
[03:04] <main2> san: yes
[03:04] <rod> hi, i installed kubuntu on my laptop a few weeks ago and the install correctly picked up my wireless card.  but a few days ago i did a complete reinstall and have just noticed that i am now without my wireless crad, i just have loopback and eth1 which is my wired lan card.  how can i go about getting my wireless card detected without reinstalling?
[03:04] <main2> NameNomad: you can break the whole partition if you dont watch out
[03:04] <NameNomad> main2: I really just want to retrieve some files from it
[03:04] <main2> NameNomad: i repeat : dont use it to write to it..
[03:05] <main2> NameNomad: that shouldnt be a problem, can you access the /media/mydrive now?
[03:05] <SAngeli> main2, direct rendering: Yes :-)
[03:05] <NameNomad> main2: nah, I'm not allowed into it
[03:05] <main2> SAngeli: pwnage =)
[03:05] <main2> NameNomad: sudo mc
[03:06] <main2> try to look around that way, watch out .... im not going to repeat it again..
[03:06] <SAngeli> main2, very cool. It now rocks ! (thks to you)
[03:06] <main2> SAngeli: have you seen XGL?
[03:06] <SAngeli> no, can I implement it too?
[03:06] <NameNomad> main2: it said that mc couldn't be found
[03:06] <main2> SAngeli: you know it?
[03:06] <SAngeli> I mean: Yes I have seen it
[03:06] <NameNomad> so I tried apt-getting it
[03:07] <main2> NameNomad: sudo apt-get install mc
[03:07] <SAngeli> how to implement it? Is it easy and possible?
[03:07] <main2> NameNomad: you need to have multiverse in your sources.list..
[03:07] <NameNomad> which returned 'E: Couldn't find pacakage mc"
[03:07] <main2> !repository
[03:07] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:07] <main2> SAngeli: its a bitch to get it installed, if you dont know a lot about the console / i mean
[03:08] <main2> if editing files can still be a problem, nofi at all -> but then you shouldnt give it a try..
[03:08] <SAngeli> main2,  next time, then
[03:08] <SAngeli> main2, now let me enjoy transparency
[03:08] <SAngeli> main2, thanks for now.
[03:08] <main2> SAngeli: yeah, the best thing you could do is -> wait for a month or 3
[03:08] <SAngeli> why 3 months?
[03:08] <main2> SAngeli: XGL compiz stuff improves everyday (not a little)
[03:09] <SAngeli> right
[03:09] <SAngeli> thks main2. I appreciate it
[03:09] <SAngeli> main2, is kubuntu your only distro?
[03:09] <main2> ive already seen a auto install script around somewhere, but those are not always reliable
[03:09] <main2> SAngeli: ive seen them all... from IBM AIX to RHEL
[03:09] <SAngeli> main2, what about gentoo?
[03:09] <main2> and everything between or aside :X
[03:10] <SAngeli> main2, and what about imac too Mac OS X?
[03:10] <main2> SAngeli: i prefer Kubuntu! =)
[03:10] <Hobbsee> !vmware
[03:10] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[03:10] <SAngeli> main2, but have you tried gentoo? I ask this because I just quit gentoo after almost 2 years
[03:10] <main2> SAngeli: i cant afford such luxeurous stuff... and i dont have to be highly exclusive
[03:11] <main2> SAngeli: yes ive tried gentoo, was not impressed.
[03:11] <SAngeli> main2, are you referring to imac?
[03:11] <main2> yes
[03:11] <SAngeli> and what about gentoo?
[03:12] <main2> SAngeli: i prefer (K)Ubuntu, might be a personal thing
[03:12] <SAngeli> main2, last question. Now, to implement kde-look is it hard?
[03:13] <SAngeli> main2, and what about superkaramba. is it present in kubuntu?
[03:13] <main2> SAngeli: dont use superkaramba..
[03:13] <main2> i cant remember kde-look, but things like superkaramba.. they work today
[03:14] <main2> to die tomorrow..
[03:14] <SAngeli> yea
[03:14] <SAngeli> thks for now, main2
[03:14] <SAngeli> main2, anything to advice for email client?
[03:14] <NameNomad> main2: ok, I installed mc, and am now in mc
[03:15] <NameNomad> what next? you mentioned this is horribly dangerous, so I don't think I want to go poking around by myself
[03:15] <main2> SAngeli: im using thunderbird
[03:15] <main2> but i heard that evolution is the bom.... never seen it tough..
[03:15] <main2> NameNomad: yes starting it with sudo mc
[03:15] <SAngeli> is thurderbird better than kmail?
[03:15] <main2> gives you root access to everything you can access with it
[03:15] <Tm_T> imo kmail is better
[03:16] <|lostbyte|> Hi guys.
[03:16] <NameNomad> oh, so now all I have to do is find the drive and change the permissions?
[03:16] <main2> NameNomad: you see two panes huh
[03:16] <NameNomad> yep
[03:16] <main2> NameNomad: do not change any permissions at all
[03:16] <main2> its not needed
[03:16] <SAngeli> got to go now.
[03:16] <NameNomad> ok
[03:16] <SAngeli> thanks you guys
[03:17] <main2> SAngeli: yw, see you around k :-))
[03:17] <SAngeli> sure
[03:17] <main2> NameNomad: you see two panes, with a command line under it
[03:17] <NameNomad> yep
[03:17] <main2> NameNomad: type: cd /media/mydrive
[03:17] <main2> this will get MC (midnightcommander) along to the folder...
[03:17] <main2> you can also navigate with the arrowkeys
[03:17] <NameNomad> ahh, totally beautiful
[03:18] <NameNomad> I've missed my old HDD so much
[03:18] <NameNomad> so many good memories
[03:18] <NameNomad> of games and stuff
[03:18] <main2> NameNomad:  hahaha, ok you can see the stuff i guess?
[03:19] <main2> make a folder on your linux drive to copy the stuff to (with TAB you can move from the left pane to the right)
[03:19] <main2> midnight commander is the bom
[03:19] <NameNomad> this is really dope
[03:19] <NameNomad> I gotta admit
[03:19] <main2> NameNomad: dope and dangereous (root.....)
[03:20] <NameNomad> for sure
[03:20] <NameNomad> so much power
[03:20] <NameNomad> gotta be wise about it
[03:21] <ninHer> hi all
[03:21] <NameNomad> ugh, how do I copy things over?
[03:21] <NameNomad> I hate to ask so many questions
[03:21] <NameNomad> but I know pretty much nothing
[03:22] <Lynoure> NameNomad: This place is all for the questions
[03:23] <NameNomad> Lynoure: Yeah, I always feel like I'm bothersome though.  That what I get for being born in Minnesota :D
[03:23] <main2> NameNomad: F5 to copy
[03:23] <main2> F6 to move if im not wrong, its all written in the lowest rule on the screen......
[03:23] <NameNomad> ok, so those are F-keys, not simply number keys
[03:23] <arcasa> I need Steam./
[03:24] <fraco> boil water
[03:24] <NameNomad> duuude
[03:25] <NameNomad> this is wicked
[03:25] <NameNomad> I've been missing this music for way too long
[03:25] <NameNomad> (even though some of it's country [not my favorite, but the messages are cool] )
[03:25] <NameNomad> I love linux
[03:26] <Jucato> anyone here familiar with multi-booting Linux distros?
[03:26] <gnomefreak> Jucato: ive done it
[03:27] <Jucato> gnomefreak: any advice on the /boot partition?
[03:27] <NameNomad> ok, time for a pancake
[03:27] <NameNomad> bbl
[03:27] <gnomefreak> Jucato: what do you mean?
[03:28] <gnomefreak> Jucato: fedora/RH was the only ones i ran into issues boot with a debain distro suse sets up nice :)
[03:28] <Jucato> gnomefreak: once I had a GRUB error because the /boot directory of Distro X was beyond the 8GB limit, I think
[03:28] <gnomefreak> Jucato: that i have never seen
[03:28] <Jucato> :(
[03:28] <gnomefreak> sorry
[03:28] <Jucato> ah ok... I'll probably wait for imbrandon to return :)
[03:28] <Jucato> thanks anyway :)
[03:30] <bobesponja> hey all
[03:30] <Jucato> gnomefreak: do you think 8GB for each distro is enough? 10GB for the main one?
[03:30] <Jucato> (main one being Kubuntu...)
[03:30] <bobesponja> is there a way to see the brand of my /dev/hdc1 drive?
[03:30] <arcasa> I would love Linux if I could get Steam to run.
[03:30] <Jucato> msg ubotu steam
[03:30] <Jucato> err...
[03:30] <arcasa> I think it's cuz I use amd64
[03:30] <main2> NameNomad|away: let me know when you are back..
[03:30] <main2> wanne say a few things..
[03:30] <Jucato> !steam
[03:30] <ubotu> Steam can be found at: http://www.steampowered.com/
[03:31] <scion> bobesponja: in control panel > disks and filesystems it gives the make and model number
[03:31] <main2> arcasa: fuck steam
[03:31] <gnomefreak> Jucato: should be but i wouldnt make a new swap with that little space
[03:31] <Riddell> !language
[03:31] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:31] <arcasa> I love HalfLife!
[03:31] <arcasa> I love FPS!
[03:31] <main2> arcasa: fuck non-native binary providers
[03:31] <Riddell> main2: ahem
[03:31] <Jucato> main2: please watch your language
[03:31] <main2> when its about MS-friends, no i wont :D
[03:31] <Jucato> gnomefreak: heh I have 80GB :)
[03:31] <Jucato> !language
[03:31] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:31] <gnomefreak> :)
[03:32] <arcasa> I'm not an M$-friend!
[03:32] <arcasa> I'm a HL fan!
[03:32] <gnomefreak> arcasa: that is no need to use bad langauge
[03:32] <Jucato> gnomefreak: that 10GB for Kubuntu was for / hehe (30GB+ for /home)
[03:32] <scion> arcasa: i got steam working... will get you the link to the tutorial i used
[03:32] <gnomefreak> Jucato: ah
[03:33] <arcasa> Do you use amd64 though? (scion)
[03:33] <Jucato> gnomefreak: sorry for all the question... planning to redo my partitions :P
[03:33] <scion> arcasa: nope, sound like you are fughting a losing battle mate!
[03:33] <gnomefreak> Jucato: im here to answer them :)
[03:34] <scion> *fighting
[03:34] <main2> arcasa: i didnt say you are one, but valve has been working closely MS
[03:34] <Jucato> gnomefreak: isn't that the kernel for edgy?
[03:34] <main2> (it might even be a sister company, dunno)
[03:35] <arcasa> Goddamnit this sucks.
[03:35] <gnomefreak> Jucato: it is going to be we have the headers and all but no kernel for -9 yet as far as i can see in my repos
[03:35] <Jucato> hm... strange
[03:35] <Jucato> hold on
[03:35] <scion> main2: valve are totally unrelated to MS
[03:35] <main2> i dont like it that some companies do not acknowledge linux is a serious company
[03:35] <main2> scion: no they are not..
[03:36] <main2> linux is a serious OS... sorry not company
[03:36] <scion> main2: so you are saying valve are owned by MS??
[03:36] <scion> hahahahaha
[03:36] <scion> your a funny man
[03:37] <main2> scion: i've never said that
[03:37] <main2> but i red that they have close connections
[03:37] <main2> and that might be a reason why we dont see any linux binaries comming from them
[03:37] <Jucato> ooh tsdgeos...
[03:37] <main2> they should look at ID as a good example of how it should be
[03:38] <tsdgeos> Jucato: do we know eachother?
[03:38] <Jucato> gnomefreak: yeah 2.6.17-9-generic on Edgy
[03:38] <Jucato> tsdgeos: no. I just see your blog on planet kde :)
[03:39] <gnomefreak> am i the only one that didnt get the upgrade?
[03:39] <tsdgeos> Jucato: ah :-)
[03:39] <tsdgeos> cheers
[03:39] <gnomefreak> !info kernel edgy
[03:39] <ubotu> Package kernel does not exist in edgy
[03:39] <Jucato> gnomefreak: apparently... :(
[03:40] <main2> scion: quake 4 and doom 3 run faster her under kubuntu then under windows
[03:40] <gnomefreak> Jucato: im installing it (i wonder why i didnt get it as update
[03:40] <Jucato> heh :P
[03:41] <scion> main2: true, have quake 3 and UT working fine here, CS was more of a pain with the crashing and stuff but this is off topic
[03:41] <Jucato> now, if only I could figure out why my internet connection suddenly fscked up... :(
[03:41] <gnomefreak> im installing linux-image-generic as well maybe thats why no update
[03:41] <gnomefreak> brb sdmoke
[03:43] <main2> scion: for me, there is not a single reason i could bring up why i should use windows isntead of kubuntu/linux
[03:43] <scion> main2: we all hate windows equally here
[03:44] <main2> scion: conserning my opinion, you dont have to hate it......... but if companies release stuff / games for windows only
[03:44] <main2> then im not gonna buy it
[03:45] <main2> hardware / games doesnt matter, i boycot 'windows only' companies
[03:45] <scion> ohhh dear jesus bit torrent is milking my connection, never seen speeds like this before - penn and teller bullshit @ 320kb/s
[03:45] <llxcamxll> whats the command to nuke something if you can't move it to trash??
[03:45] <SAngeli> can someone please refer me a webpage on how to install all available plugins for mozilla-firefox?
[03:46] <scion> llxcamxll: what happens if you shift+del
[03:46] <h3sp4wn> SAngeli: Why would you want all available plugins - some provide similar functionality
[03:47] <SAngeli> I have no plugins so far. I need to install some plugins so I can browse the Internet
[03:47] <main2> SAngeli: you dont want ALL of them
[03:48] <main2> SAngeli: in fact, im using no extensions at all - not missing anything :P
[03:48] <SAngeli> ok, not all of them but at least flash, micromedia, windows media, adobe
[03:48] <scion> SAngeli: all you should need are Flash and Java plugins
[03:48] <llxcamxll> access denied
[03:48] <main2> ahhhh SAngeli check out easyubuntu
[03:48] <Jucato> SAngeli: flashplugin-nonfree for Flash and sun-java5-plugin for Java
[03:48] <main2> SAngeli: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[03:48] <SAngeli> Flash, java, adobe, windows media, quick time, real audio at least those
[03:48] <Jucato> !easyubuntu
[03:48] <scion> llxcamxll: ok in a terminal change the permissions
[03:48] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[03:48] <llxcamxll> isn't like rm -something/something
[03:48] <llxcamxll> theres like an easy nuking command
[03:49] <scion> llxcamxll: sudo chmod 0777 filenamehere
[03:49] <Jucato> llxcamxll: if you delete a file from the command line, it's deleted forever
[03:49] <llxcamxll> done
[03:49] <llxcamxll> thank you
[03:49] <SAngeli> main2, cool
[03:49] <SAngeli> let me read
[03:50] <scion> llxcamxll: the chmod work for you?
[04:00] <NameNomad> wow, lotsa people left the channel
[04:01] <Jucato> probably a netsplit...
[04:01] <NameNomad> no idea what that is
[04:01] <scion> NameNomad: thank you for breaking the silence lol
[04:01] <NameNomad> but it sounds cool
[04:01] <NameNomad> haha, I was wondering why no one was talking
[04:01] <NameNomad> looked up the text a little, seemed there was a little verbal brawl
[04:01] <main2> NameNomad: its because you are around
[04:01] <main2> all ran away
[04:01] <Jucato> heh
[04:02] <NameNomad> rofl, yah, I can have that affect on people
[04:02] <main2> =)
[04:02] <NameNomad> must be the giant horns and red skin
[04:02] <NameNomad> XD
[04:02] <scion> gotta go, laters
[04:02] <NameNomad> adios amigo
[04:02] <main2> haha, cya scion =)
[04:02] <NameNomad> hey, for what it's worth, you don't have to buy HL or HL2
[04:02] <NameNomad> there's torrent for a reaon
[04:03] <NameNomad> I didn't see anyone mention stealing HL/HL2
[04:03] <NameNomad> so...just thought it should be mentioned
[04:03] <NameNomad> <<
[04:03] <NameNomad> >>
[04:03] <Jucato> ssshhh
[04:03] <Jucato> :P
[04:03] <main2> NameNomad: there is a way to play on steam without a license yes
[04:03] <Dink> yea so mpaa,riaa can put trackers on them to catch people :s
[04:04] <main2> NameNomad: but i boycot steam (even while i have the dvd.. i dont play it anymore)
[04:04] <NameNomad> play the offline mode
[04:04] <main2> i boycot *******/ companies who do not release elf binaries
[04:04] <NameNomad> hack the files so it doesn't initiate steam
[04:04] <NameNomad> yeah
[04:04] <NameNomad> I just steal things
[04:04] <NameNomad> much easier
[04:04] <NameNomad> ^_^
[04:04] <Dink> the way to go is private ftp ;)
[04:04] <NameNomad> word
[04:04] <NameNomad> but!
[04:04] <Dink> on 100mm/gb lines ;)
[04:05] <Dink> mb*
[04:05] <NameNomad> on to my stupid folders
[04:05] <NameNomad> with their ridiculous privilage settings
[04:05] <NameNomad> because even after I copied over my music file, it is still locked to all but root
[04:06] <warpzone> holy crap, anybody who browses using firefox should INSTALL SWIFTFOX
[04:06] <warpzone> there is even a .deb to install swiftfox now
[04:06] <warpzone> not only is it faster but it totally fixed my flash sound, go figure
[04:07] <Dink> or go with opera
[04:07] <NameNomad> so how's this for suck factor, even moving over single files of my music is locked
[04:07] <warpzone> Dink: yknow, I probably would if I didnt love my extensions so much
[04:08] <Jucato> NameNomad: from where did you move them?
[04:08] <Dink> probably 985938589x more extensions to opera then firefox/swiftfox
[04:08] <NameNomad> jucato: home folder on main drive
[04:08] <NameNomad> from my slave drive
[04:08] <NameNomad> but the privi's on the slave drive were set to root
[04:09] <warpzone> Dink: doesnt opera have ads at the top or bottom of the browser window? the last opera I used did, totally annoyed me
[04:09] <NameNomad> so when I move the folder they stay as root only
[04:09] <Dink> hmm i dont recall having those
[04:09] <Jucato> hm... I thought they'd change to the user's ownership...
[04:09] <NameNomad> yeah, that would be really really cool
[04:09] <NameNomad> but so far, no luck for me
[04:10] <Jucato> NameNomad: you can just launch Konqueror with admin privileges and change the ownership (if you don't want to do it with the command line)
[04:10] <NameNomad> jucato: ok, that sounds like a dandy idea
[04:10] <NameNomad> (for real, I like it)
[04:11] <NameNomad> command line is 'kdesu konqueror'?
[04:11] <Jucato> yes
[04:11] <Jucato> or ALt+F2, or in Konsole
[04:17] <tony_> hello everyone..
[04:18] <tony_> I Have single video file ( .avi ) and i want to burn that to cd so it can play back on DVD . what tools to use ??
[04:20] <Dink> k3b
[04:20] <Dink> burn as data
[04:20] <tony_> dose DVD player , plays back avi ???
[04:20] <SAngeli> main2, just to understand: when i have to download easyubuntu and install it where should i do all this? I did it in /tmp but should it be done in a specific foler or in my home folder?
[04:20] <Dink> and pray your dvd player plays avi ;)
[04:20] <mpathy> tony_: Most actuak ones yes
[04:20] <mpathy> -k +l
[04:20] <main2> SAngeli: i just ran the script, sudo script.sh....
[04:21] <tony_> is there any linux program that can convert avi to some dvd format ?
[04:21] <main2> no idea wether you should execute it from a certain path, i dont think so
[04:21] <mpathy> tony_: This avis are mostly DivX
[04:21] <SAngeli> but when you had to wget where did you save it?
[04:21] <main2> just start it with sudo
[04:21] <acesuares> hi
[04:21] <acesuares> !usb
[04:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:21] <acesuares> !usb boot
[04:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb boot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:21] <SAngeli> I checked my firefox and do not have flash though I went through the entire process.
[04:21] <Dink> no idea my dvd player plays it all i stick 6 avi on a dvdrw and play on my dvd player
[04:21] <acesuares> Hi, anyone know how to install Kubuntu from USB stick ?
[04:21] <tony_> on the property , it says the codec is XVID
[04:22] <soulrider> hi everyone
[04:22] <acesuares> hisoulrider
[04:22] <acesuares> hi soulrider
[04:22] <Dink> tony_ burn it with k3b as data and see if it will play on your dvd player
[04:22] <Kr4t05> acesuares: Theoretically, you should be able to just copy the files from the CD to the USB stick (Assuming you have enough space on the USB stick.
[04:22] <Kr4t05> )
[04:22] <tony_> OK DInk . thanks for the info :)
[04:22] <SAngeli> main2, is it possible I screwed up?
[04:23] <Dink> i do it all the time... use a dvdrw incase
[04:23] <acesuares> Kr4t05: without any special boot sector magig ?
[04:23] <acesuares> Kr4t05: without any special boot sector magic
[04:23] <dhq> i just installed win xp now my grub is gone is there a way to add kubuntu in my mbr
[04:23] <SAngeli> join #easyubuntu
[04:23] <tony_> i will try it now and i will test it righaway .. will let you know how it went :) .. thanks for the info
[04:24] <soulrider> tony_:
[04:25] <soulrider> there are some guides
[04:25] <soulrider> !grub <tony_
[04:25] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 748 kB
[04:25] <soulrider> !tony > grub
[04:25] <tony_> grub
[04:26] <tony_> im trying to make a movie CD :)
[04:26] <warpzone> hey, is there a good set of instructions somewhere for making a .deb from the source code of stuff? I want to install some thing but I'd like to be able to uninstall them too :-P
[04:28] <dhq> what is the root pass for the kubuntulive cd
[04:29] <warpzone> dhq: I'm not certain there is one. Usually you just do everything with 'sudo'
[04:29] <dhq> k
[04:29] <h3sp4wn> dhq: just run sudo -i
[04:30] <Jucato> there is no password for the Live CD
[04:37] <ru6hi0> boas
[04:37] <ru6hi0> pessoal
[04:38] <ru6hi0> kuando copiamos um dvd a imagem fica guardada onde?
[04:39] <Jucato> !pt
[04:39] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[04:48] <|GaiJin|> I get The configuration file now needs a secret passphrase (blowfish_secret). when trying to access phpmyadmin on my box... how can I fix this??
[04:56] <preacher> Anyone able to help me out.  Wireless card woes.  the system works fine on the default install, but will not recognise the card in the PCMCIA slot after kubuntu updates
[05:01] <cango> mp3 help
[05:02] <cango> the song opened & immediately closed
[05:02] <Jucato> cango: you need to install "libxine-extracodecs" to play mp3's
[05:02] <Jucato> cango: to get it, you need to enable "multiverse"
[05:02] <Jucato> !multiverse
[05:02] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:03] <Jucato> cango: see that guide ^^^^
[05:03] <cango> where can i find
[05:04] <scarfreewill> uhm,  i got a big mess up... i set my res to more that my screen can handel how to i change it back via terminal? (i have tried to delete all the sceen res that my screen can't handel in /etc/X11/xorg.conf but it still doesn't work)
[05:09] <scarfreewill> where does lunix save the res to (the file) when you change you res?
[05:09] <abattoir> scarfreewill: its saved in /etc/X11/xorg.conf....
[05:09] <grothesk> scarfreewill: in xorg.conf
[05:09] <scarfreewill> uhm,  i got a big mess up... i set my res to more that my screen can handel how to i change it back via terminal? (i have tried to delete all the sceen res that my screen can't handel in /etc/X11/xorg.conf but it still doesn't work)
[05:10] <abattoir> scarfreewill: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[05:10] <scarfreewill> (thats my origenal post)
[05:10] <abattoir> scarfreewill: choose your driver, and then your resolution...
[05:10] <scarfreewill> abattoir: how?
[05:10] <abattoir> scarfreewill: then restart X after saving unsaved data(Ctrl+Alt+Backspace), if you have it started
[05:10] <scarfreewill> abattoir: nwm
[05:11] <abattoir> scarfreewill: in a terminal, enter that command
[05:11] <scarfreewill> abattoir: brb just restarted
[05:11] <abattoir> scarfreewill: are you completely new to linux?
[05:13] <scarfreewill> abattoir: no.. just getting it on my brothers pc..
[05:14] <scarfreewill> abattoir: i think its his screen and his got ati and i use nv
[05:14] <abattoir> scarfreewill: oh ok, i just thought i'd recommend the Kubuntu desktop guide ;)
[05:14] <scarfreewill> abattoir: :) i think its his screen: (the thing is a bit weard...)
[05:16] <abattoir> To All: The Ubuntu Marketing team is doing a survery, if you have the time, please consider taking it at http://surveys.geekosophical.net/ , Thank you :)
[05:16] <Hawkwind> Spammer!!  Oh wait, sorry :P
[05:17] <abattoir> lol
[05:17] <Jucato> heh
[05:17] <Jucato> kick him kick him!
[05:17] <abattoir> haha
[05:17] <abattoir> aah, that's nice :)
[05:17] <abattoir> "victim"
[05:18] <Hawkwind> Hah
[05:18] <cango_> can i play mp3s with w32codecs.deb
[05:18] <Jucato> *cough*offtopic*cough*
[05:19] <Jucato> cango_: no, not that. "libxine-extracodecs"
[05:19] <Jucato> !libxine-extracodecs
[05:19] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[05:19] <abattoir> Jucato: bleh... :P
[05:19] <cango_> anybody know turkish
[05:19] <Hawkwind> People who live in Turkey probably do :)
[05:19] <cango_> omer
[05:20] <abattoir> !tr
[05:20] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[05:20] <abattoir> cango_: ^^^^
[05:20] <ubuntu_> having trouble with getting my grub back
[05:21] <the_y_man> omfg... www.mldesigners.com just got DEFACED!
[05:21] <ubuntu_> !grub
[05:21] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:22] <the_y_man> !grub
[05:22] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:22] <Kennie`> is there a easy way to enable second cpu core (centino duo) instead of compiling new kernel?
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> shouldent that be enabled by default? or perhaps ya need that SMP kernel.
[05:25] <Kennie`> hmm.. doesnt it pick SMP by default? will try apt-get it
[05:25] <kolin> hey all
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> I thought the default kernel had smp in it all ready
[05:26] <omer> hello all
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> try 'uname -a' and see what kernel ya got
[05:26] <Kennie`> seems not then..
[05:26] <omer> can somebody help me
[05:26] <Kennie`> eh newest -27
[05:26] <omer> ?
[05:26] <kolin> so i am realy new to linux.  and i have no idea what i am doing
[05:26] <kolin> haha
[05:27] <kolin> <----n00b
[05:27] <kolin> :)
[05:27] <Kennie`> just state ur question i would say :x
[05:27] <omer> i m new to linux and i installed kubuntu
[05:27] <omer> now have opened adapt but it starts downloading instead of installing from cd
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> if there are newer packages online. it will dowload/install them.
[05:28] <omer> i have checked the repository but there is no cdrom repository
[05:28] <omer> can i add the cdrom repository
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> the first line of the apt sources.list normally is the cdrom line.
[05:28] <omer> ?
[05:28] <omer> but there isnt any?
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> you can add the local cd. but still any updates will get downloaded, and it will check the online repos for the latest
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> I normally delete the cd repo line. :P
[05:29] <omer> how to add the cdrom?
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> !apt-get
[05:29] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> theres an apt-cdrom command
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> that i think can ad it.
[05:30] <kolin> trying to mount an NTFS drive here now
[05:31] <kolin> having some difficulties
[05:31] <omer> ok let me try
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> The DeFacto NTFS Guide (and good info for vfat as well) --->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#can_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[05:31] <kolin> i will give it a shot
[05:31] <kolin> thanks
[05:31] <kolin> i have 2 drives though and windows is on one and kubuntu on the other
[05:31] <kolin> so will that faq still apply to me?
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> of course. mounting drives is about mounting drives. :P
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> it dosent matter if you got 10000000000 drives.
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> you mount them all with the mount system.
[05:32] <kolin> alright....thanks
[05:32] <kolin> i will give it a shot:)
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> Do you mean you have 2 hard drives>?  or a single drive that has 2 partitions?
[05:32] <kolin> i have lots of questons:)
[05:33] <kolin> 2 hard drives
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> I think i got 8 hard drives in this box. :P
[05:33] <kolin> hahaha....well then
[05:33] <kolin> must be a big tower
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> example fstab entry -->   /dev/hdb1 /media/WinBoot ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1
[05:34] <kolin> see....that really does nothing for me
[05:34] <kolin> haha
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> that url explains all the hows and whys of the umask= option , which is normally the one you need to use/mess with
[05:34] <kolin> ahhh....ok
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> when in doubt RTFM and learn the basics
[05:34] <ubuntu_> Dr_Willis: how do i get my grub back
[05:34] <kolin> i do have another little question
[05:34] <ubuntu_> Dr_Willis: i am on the live cd now
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu_,  how did ya lose it?
[05:34] <cathy_> howdy pps
[05:34] <cathy_> oops...brb
[05:34] <zorglu_> !grub
[05:34] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:34] <zorglu_> the first link is my guess :)
[05:34] <kolin> if i minimize sometrhing to the sys tray, can i associate it with a shortcut key or something to bring it back up quickly?
[05:35] <ubuntu_> Dr_Willis: while installing windows i have tried rcovering it
[05:35] <SAngeli> has anyone installed an HP LaserJet 1320n?
[05:35] <ubuntu_> thru the above mentioned site
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> in short.. boot the live cd, mount the linux / drive, chroot to where you mounted it to, run update-grub (i think)
[05:35] <dennister> better?
[05:36] <dennister> yeah :-)
[05:36] <dennister> howdy all
[05:36] <ubuntu__> what
[05:36] <ubuntu_> Dr_Willis: can you mention it slowly dint get you
[05:37] <omer> my problem is unsolved
[05:37] <ubuntu_> Dr_Willis:  all this i have to do when i am on the live cd rite
[05:38] <omer> I couldnt understand how to add the cdrom repository
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> Yes. You boot the live cd. get to a shell and use the commands.
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> omer,  try sudo  apt-cdrom add
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> I dont have a cdrom to even test. :P
[05:38] <ubuntu_> Dr_Willis: i am running in the live cd so i can do it in konsole
[05:39] <omer> on konsole?
[05:39] <omer> ok
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> omer,  yes..  where you type commands at. :P
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu_,  yes. shouldent matter.
[05:39] <dennister> anyone need some newbie-level help who isn't already being helped by someone else?
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> omer,  but you may need to be root to do this stuff..
[05:39] <zorglu_> dennister: :)
[05:40] <dennister> Zorglu: hi is there a reason for the smile?
[05:40] <omer> ok
[05:40] <omer> i have done this
[05:40] <omer> its has done something
[05:40] <larson9999> so many webcasts. so little time
[05:41] <zorglu_> dennister: i liked your 'i wanna help, somebody needs to be helped'
[05:41] <ubuntu_> Dr_Willis: how do check on which partition kubuntu is installed  cauz i had 2 installations both on separate partitions one works one doesnt
[05:41] <dennister> yeah, i thought I'd offer first for a change
[05:41] <ubuntu_> Dr_Willis: ie i installed kubuntu 2 times
[05:42] <omer> thanks
[05:42] <omer> I think its done
[05:42] <dennister> not that i'm anywhere near mid-level myself, but...
[05:42] <dennister> zorglu: how 'bout u?
[05:43] <zorglu_> dennister: im fine thanks :)
[05:44] <ubuntu_> Dr_Willis: what do you mean /targer
[05:44] <ubuntu_> Dr_Willis: what do you mean /target
[05:44] <cango_> omer
[05:44] <cango_> do you know turkish
[05:44] <omer> no
[05:45] <omer> I know urdu
[05:45] <zorglu_> cango_: you look for a channel in turkish ?
[05:45] <MenZa> !tu
[05:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:45] <omer> I m from pakistan
[05:45] <zorglu_> arabe is the language ?
[05:45] <MenZa> !ar
[05:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:45] <MenZa> Gah, I give up.
[05:45] <zorglu_> hehe :)
[05:45] <zorglu_> irc in arabe seems strange to me :)
[05:46] <zorglu_> but it is likely supported
[05:46] <dennister> ok pps; stop hogging every color i try to use!
[05:46] <dennister> lol...every time i change it i find someone else is using it already
[05:47] <kolin> DrWillis: you still there?
[05:48] <kolin> or anyone rather?
[05:48] <abattoir> kolin: what do you need?
[05:48] <kolin> well i was trying to mount a windows drive
[05:48] <dennister> hmmmmm
[05:48] <kolin> and drwillis gave me a link
[05:48] <kolin> so i am following it thru
[05:49] <fdoving> !ntfs
[05:49] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:49] <kolin> i types in that /proc/systems/ thing and it gave me a list but NTFS isn't there
[05:49] <fdoving> that link?
[05:49] <ep> Can somebody help me copy sym-links without dereferencing?  "sudo cp -Rdv mplayer* /opt/firefox/plugins/"  no workie,  the links are bad in the target directory. What am I screwing up?
[05:49] <dennister> well, since i offered to help other newbies first, would anyone have some time to help me with a strange mounting/sharing issue?
[05:51] <tibbar> abattoir: i am now on my brother's pc..
[05:51] <tibbar> abattoir: the command that you told me to use didn't help because....
[05:51] <bobesponja> hey all
[05:51] <omer> thanks for help people
[05:51] <omer> bye
[05:52] <abattoir> dennister: ask your question, someone might know :)
[05:52] <abattoir> tibbar: because...?
[05:52] <bobesponja> I'm installing kubuntu on a new unformated hard drive
[05:52] <dennister> abattoir: hey there, hi
[05:52] <abattoir> dennister: hi :)
[05:52] <bobesponja> I want to create two partitions, one for /home and one for /
[05:52] <tibbar> abattoir: when my brother installed kubuntu it just got stuck on the loading screen (even for the live cd) then he went into save mode and installed it there
[05:53] <abattoir> tibbar: ok, was installation completed successfully?
[05:53] <dennister> k, i've got my lamp setup and working pretty well...but i was setting up my windows partitions and somehow got this thing called <mount point> in my home directory
[05:53] <bobesponja> to create the /home I need to enter "/home" in the Label textbox in qtparted right?
[05:53] <tibbar> abattoir: and when i use the command u told me to use it got stuck on the loading screen again
[05:53] <tibbar> abattoir: yes..
[05:54] <dennister> contents will change ie sometimes its my vfat partition and sometimes ti's the winmedia partition
[05:54] <The_Stephan> hello have here one people the toucam pro 2 ?
[05:54] <The_Stephan> under linux
[05:54] <bobesponja> anyone please? :)
[05:54] <abattoir> tibbar: you should enter that command once your system is ready to use, in a terminal...
[05:54] <dennister> problem is, only root has permission to access winmedia, which has all my media files on it
[05:54] <abattoir> tibbar: do you mean after you chose your driver and res. ?
[05:54] <tibbar> abattoir: but how i did it is i went into safe mode form the live cd and copied its xorg.conf and repaced it with the old one on my pc
[05:54] <dennister> I can't seem to change the permissions for winmedia in samba, or any other method
[05:55] <dennister> and  want all my other partitions mounted permanently
[05:56] <tibbar> abattoir: (what happend when you told me to do that command i did and it did reset my xorg.conf but the default xorg.conf makes his pc 'hang')
[05:56] <abattoir> tibbar: that might not work always...(and you replaced the one on your pc w/ the one from the cd right?_
[05:56] <abattoir> tibbar: did you install the binary ati drivers?
[05:56] <tibbar> abattoir: yes but i had to boot in safe mode on the live cd
[05:56] <kolin> i can't just open an mp3 file in this amaroK program can i?
[05:56] <tibbar> abattoir: not just :P
[05:57] <tibbar> abattoir: *yet
[05:57] <abattoir> kolin: if you have the right codecs, you can :)
[05:57] <abattoir> !mp3
[05:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:57] <abattoir> kolin: ^^^
[05:57] <fraco> The_Stepahn, I don't have one, but used a similar cam a year ago
[05:57] <kolin> hahaha
[05:57] <kolin> that's intense
[05:57] <kolin> thanks!
[05:57] <tibbar> abattoir: anyways thx for ur help..
[05:58] <dennister> so how do I get rid of this <mount point> thingy in my user's home folder?
[05:58] <abattoir> dennister: the name is really '<mount point>' ? :S
[05:58] <tibbar> !bots
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bots - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:58] <tibbar> lol i need bot commands
[05:58] <abattoir> !ubotu
[05:58] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[05:58] <dennister> abattoir: yes, wierd, eh?
[06:00] <abattoir> dennister: i not really experienced w/ networking, but it does sound very strange...
[06:00] <abattoir> or is this a local drive/partition?
[06:00] <dennister> abattoir: yes, on a second drive
[06:00] <abattoir> bobesponja: the mountpoint should be /home
[06:01] <dennister> i've never seen this on any of my other installations
[06:01] <bobesponja> abattoir: thanx, and which one should I put at the beginnin of unallocated space?
[06:01] <abattoir> dennister: does your fstab look normal?
[06:01] <flavioribeiro> anyone can tell me a good game to ubuntu?
[06:01] <flavioribeiro> i wanna play something hehe
[06:02] <fdoving> dennister: can you provide a screenshot of this mountpoint thing? might explain better.
[06:02] <dennister> yes, it does, and i even did a small edit to try to correct the fstab
[06:02] <abattoir> bobesponja: i dont think that matters much.. as long as grub(and fstab) are pointed to it correctly
[06:02] <fdoving> dennister: can you post your fstab to http://rafb.net/paste ?
[06:02] <dennister> fdoving: a screenshot, in pastebin i presume? k, haven't done that yet
[06:03] <abattoir> !games
[06:03] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[06:03] <bobesponja> abattoir: and about the "primary " and "extended" partition, what's the difference and which one should I pick for /home and / ?
[06:03] <fdoving> dennister: pastebin is ok.
[06:03] <abattoir> bobesponja: one sec, brb
[06:03] <bobesponja> abattoir: thanx
[06:03] <dennister> k, hold on...i'll try to use pastebin
[06:04] <kolin> if the packages they list that i need aren't in adept, what do i do?
[06:04] <bobesponja> abattoir: I mean ok, i'll wait :)
[06:06] <kolin> if the packages they list that i need aren't in adept, what do i do?
[06:07] <fdoving> kolin: check packages.ubuntu.com
[06:07] <kolin> thanks
[06:09] <abattoir> bobesponja: sorry about that...
[06:09] <bobesponja> no problem
[06:10] <abattoir> bobesponja: well, technically you cant have more than 4 'primary' partitions... so extended partitions evolved as something which overcame that...
[06:10] <kolin> when i d/l a .deb file
[06:10] <kolin> where does it need to be for me to install it?
[06:11] <abattoir> bobesponja: and i dont think it really matters....
[06:11] <Wulong> When I start my computer after updating anything with Adept evreything stored in my session have been unset, annoying. Just sayin'.
[06:11] <fdoving> dennister: status?
[06:11] <abattoir> kolin: it can be anywhere, rt. click on the file->Install Package
[06:11] <abattoir> kolin: or rt.click->Actions->Install Package
[06:11] <kolin> thank you very much
[06:12] <dennister> k, think i got my fstab uploaded to pastebin, and i got screenshot of error prob in konq, but can't seem to get that screenshot into pastebin
[06:12] <abattoir> kolin: wait... you might run into dependency problems...
[06:12] <abattoir> kolin: what are you trying to install?
[06:12] <abattoir> kolin: libxine-extracodecs?
[06:12] <kolin> there is no install package option anyway
[06:12] <kolin> yeah
[06:12] <kolin> how'd you know? haha
[06:12] <abattoir> kolin: you'd need to enable multiverse for adept to 'see' it...
[06:12] <abattoir> !multiverse
[06:12] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:13] <abattoir> kolin: ^^^
[06:13] <abattoir> kolin: enable universe too while you are at it ;)
[06:13] <kolin> haha....ok....cool
[06:14] <dennister> fdoving: how do i paste the screenshot into pastebin?, and has the fstab-in-pastebin worked? can u see that?
[06:14] <fdoving> dennister: which pastebin did you use?
[06:14] <abattoir> kolin: just for future reference(even though you may not need it)...(and you say the 'Install package' menu item is not available), 'sudo dpkg -i file.deb' installs a file...
[06:14] <abattoir> kolin: you dont need to save it in any particular location... if you need to specify the path, 'sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb'
[06:14] <kolin> ok...sweet
[06:14] <kolin> thanks
[06:15] <kolin> as you ca tell i am pretty new
[06:15] <abattoir> kolin: :)
[06:15] <osiris> anyone know of a player that works with quicktime streams
[06:15] <|lostbyte|> fdoving, http://imagebin.org/
[06:15] <dennister> k, my recent fstab pastebin does show up in list with others...not sure what u mean? fdoving?
[06:15] <abattoir> kolin: well, the desktop guide might help you as well
[06:15] <abattoir> osiris: if you have the codecs installed, i think it works well in kaffeine
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> it pays big time to read guides. :) to get a good foundation of knowledge
[06:15] <fdoving> dennister: did you use rafb.net/paste or something else?
[06:15] <abattoir> Dr_Willis: indeed :)
[06:16] <dennister> i think i used rafb.net/pastebin...used the link i was given here
[06:16] <fdoving> |lostbyte|: thanks for the tip. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ has a image feature too.
[06:16] <fdoving> dennister: you can use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for images.
[06:16] <Alexaaatch> hi im a newbie to kubuntu, can anyone help me with a little problem on Cedega?
[06:17] <fdoving> dennister: found your fstab.
[06:17] <dennister> great :-)
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> Alexaaatch,  whats the issue?
[06:17] <|lostbyte|> k
[06:17] <fdoving> dennister: your 3 last lines are wrong.
[06:17] <|lostbyte|> :)
[06:17] <|lostbyte|> AFK..
[06:18] <fdoving> dennister: <mount\040point> isn't a valid mountpoint.
[06:18] <Alexaaatch> Dr_Willis, im trying to find out how to use a image file to play the game instead of using the CD because it takes forever to load
[06:19] <fdoving> dennister: mountpoint should be the directory where you want to mount the disk. for example. if you want the contents from /dev/sda1 to be available in /media/windows you should set the mountpoint to /media/windows
[06:19] <bobesponja> abattoir: and what Label do I put for my swap in qtparted?
[06:19] <fdoving> dennister: <mount\040point> should therefore be replaced with something else.
[06:19] <bobesponja> abattoir: nothing or just swap?
[06:19] <abattoir> bobesponja: the label really doesnt matter, you could do as you wish :)
[06:19] <fdoving> dennister: and, you want to have separate mount-points for each disk. if you don't only the content of last mounted disk will be shown.
[06:20] <abattoir> bobesponja: you might however see the name of the label instead of 25G Media, or / in media:/ though :)
[06:20] <abattoir> (nor for swap, but)
[06:20] <dennister> fdoving; i've got the screenshot of my error message now uploaded in pastebin
[06:20] <fdoving> dennister: so, for example: /dev/sda6 /media/sda6 ntfs uid=0,gid=0,noauto,rw,users 0 0
[06:21] <bobesponja> abattoir: so it's better to not put nothing?
[06:21] <abattoir> bobesponja: its neither better nor worse, i personally think it doesn
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> Alexaaatch,  get the cd image,  in .iso format, mount it someplace.. then check the cedega configs and make the cdrom show up as the mounted dir. Not sure if cedega has that feature directly. or how well the .iso will work
[06:21] <abattoir> *doesnt matter, especially for swap
[06:21] <dennister> no; i don't want this <mount point? at all...I do want all my partitions to always be accessible to me and all users, on this local server pc and from my son's pc on my local network
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> Alexaaatch,  if the game is copy protected i doubt if it will work. get a NO-CD crack
[06:22] <fdoving> dennister: i understand. but you need mount points.
[06:22] <fdoving> dennister: mount point is the directory where you want the contents of the disk to be accessible.
[06:22] <dennister> i know i need mount points...i configured them in settings
[06:23] <ryan_> here in the past cuple days my kunbuntu is running extreamly slow. i ended my current session and started a new one and that did nothing.....any ideas
[06:23] <fdoving> dennister: like in windows you have a:, b: and c: etc. in linux you have mount points, and bind the contents of partitions/disks to directories instead.
[06:23] <super_noobs> is there any ruby programmer here?
[06:23] <dennister> in all of my other installations they were automatically mounted at boot, and always available...this server installation I had to do it after installation
[06:24] <fdoving> dennister: i'll make some changes to your fstab and explain more in detail when i'm done. hang on.
[06:24] <ubuntu> Dr_Willis: you there
[06:24] <fdoving> dennister: your konqueror error is because your fstab is setup wrong.
[06:24] <dennister> ubuntu destop lets you mount them permanently during the installation setup, just before the drive is partitioned, but with the server you can't set it up that way
[06:24] <Kr4t05> Bah, this is ignorant...
[06:24] <fdoving> dennister: so the problem is basically your fstab-setup.
[06:24] <Kr4t05> Why doesn't my mic work?
[06:24] <dennister> fdoving...thanks!
[06:25] <Martijn81> !vorbisgain > Martijn81
[06:25] <dennister> yes, i figured it was my fstab-setup...why I did a small edit already
[06:25] <dennister> that edit was done to make the winmedia exactly like the vfat, just as you saw in my pasted fstab
[06:27] <fdoving> dennister: ok, you can start with making the mountpoint directories. Like this: 'sudo mkdir /media/sda1;sudo mkdir /media/sda5;sudo mkdir /media/sda6'
[06:27] <kolin> i tried to install that extra codecs thing and i got dependency errors
[06:27] <ubuntu> where is grub installed
[06:27] <dennister> fdoving...now, with the shell command lines ur giving me here?
[06:28] <fdoving> dennister: yes.
[06:28] <fdoving> dennister: then you should edit your fstab to look like this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/znwnKw18.html
[06:28] <ryan_>  is there any way to clean up my kubuntu to make it run faster....the past few days its been running extreamly slow
[06:28] <fdoving> dennister: the first 3 lines is just a comment about making the mount-point directories.
[06:28] <sync00> quick question.  I am trying to run the ./configure command to install a program, and it tells me that there are no c compilers in $PATH... so how do I get them in there... i know I have them installed... I just need them in my $PATH
[06:28] <kolin> hrmmm...adept won't open for me anymore
[06:28] <kolin> weird
[06:29] <fdoving> dennister: you can leave them out of the real fstab, i've only made changes to the last 3 lines.
[06:29] <fdoving> sync00: you need the 'build-essential' package to compile your own programs.
[06:29] <dennister> k, followed the link to your pastebin...doing the command lines in root shell now
[06:29] <iallende89> hello
[06:30] <sync00> fdoving: how do i get the 'build-essential' package?
[06:30] <bobesponja> abattoir: it looks like qtparted doesn't take my /home Label into account, it says unknown, does this mean it will install everything into / ?
[06:31] <kolin> can someone help me.  my adept isn't opening anymore and i don't know why
[06:31] <fdoving> sync00: kmenu -> system -> adept manager - search and install
[06:31] <iallende89> does any body knows how to put a picture in kopete that anybody can see it on msn??
[06:31] <fdoving> kolin: do you get a error message?
[06:32] <kolin> nope
[06:32] <kolin> just comes up in the taskbar and then disappear
[06:32] <fdoving> kolin: try to open a konsole, and run 'sudo adept_manager'
[06:32] <kolin> i was trying to install that extracodecs thing
[06:32] <kolin> k
[06:32] <abattoir> bobesponja: afaik, that's just the label... only in the next step would you see the options for mount points
[06:32] <kilrae> options > accounts > msn account > user info > export a display picture
[06:33] <sync00> fdoving: thank you, and will that automatically put the needed files in my $PATH as well?
[06:33] <fdoving> sync00: yes.
[06:33] <abattoir> bobesponja: so create your home partition, and remember the device, eg. hda3, then in the next step, mount hda3 as /home...
[06:33] <sync00> fdoving: alrighty, thanks a bunch :)
[06:33] <iallende89> thanks KILRAE.. i'll try
[06:33] <bobesponja> abattoir: ok thanx
[06:33] <fdoving> sync00: you're welcome :)
[06:33] <fdoving> dennister: status?
[06:33] <abattoir> bobesponja: i dont exactly remember the exact process... tell me if i was wrong...
[06:33] <Haz> hey, what was the command to rebuild the locate database?
[06:34] <fdoving> Haz: updatedb
[06:34] <Haz> thanks
[06:34] <Audimage> i need help installing the nvidia drivers in ubuntu
[06:34] <fdoving> !nvidia > audimage
[06:34] <MenZa> !nvidia > Audimage
[06:34] <MenZa> fdoving: too fast for me.
[06:34] <fdoving> :] 
[06:34] <MenZa> :P
[06:34] <stephan> have here a the webcam philips toucam pro 2
[06:34] <kolin> fdoving: wasn't found
[06:34] <Audimage> ?
[06:35] <Audimage> if i type sudo apt-get install nvidia
[06:35] <Audimage> it says couldn't find package
[06:35] <fdoving> kolin: strange, in adept go to the menu: Adept -> manage repositories
[06:35] <dennister> fdoving...made the new directories, saved your fstab onto my desktop; now i just need to edit the one this session is currently using
[06:35] <fdoving> Audimage: read the messages the bot sendt you.
[06:36] <iallende89> i dont have optiens>accounts>msn account>user info>export a display picture
[06:36] <Audimage> thanks
[06:36] <kolin> i can't open adept
[06:36] <fdoving> dennister: ok, tell me when you're done editing.
 just comes up in the taskbar and then disappear
[06:36] <fdoving> kolin: ah, that was your problem.. sorry.
[06:37] <kolin> haha....don't worry about it man
[06:37] <fdoving> kolin: from konsole 'sudo adept' then.
[06:37] <kolin> it opened but gave me a whole bunch of code and stuff
[06:37] <kolin> in the konsole that is
[06:37] <fdoving> that's normal.
[06:38] <kolin> alright...cool
[06:38] <fdoving> kolin: now, you have checked that adept works. close adept and try 'kdesu adept' from konsole.
[06:38] <fdoving> kolin: that will use 'kdesu' instead of sudo, which basically is the graphical sudo-thing.
[06:39] <kolin> ok then
[06:40] <dennister> fdoving...k finished editing...I think i'm gonna have to reboot now for this to take effect, and because i got a knotify error message
[06:40] <bobesponja> abattoir: ok I'm going to proceed to the installation now, but before that it asks me to install grub on hd0 even if my instalation is on sda1 sata disk. Is that ok?
[06:40] <fdoving> dennister: reboot is not neccessary.
[06:41] <kolin> it worked
[06:41] <kolin> that's fdoving
[06:41] <fdoving> dennister: open konsole (kmenu -> system -> konsole)
[06:41] <fdoving> kolin: great, now try the menu-entry.
[06:41] <abattoir> bobesponja: i think it tries to refer to the MBR... what are the options available?
[06:41] <dennister> i'm already in root shell
[06:42] <kolin> now i should be able to install the extracodecs thing form adept right/
[06:42] <fdoving> dennister: now try 'sudo mount /media/sda1
[06:42] <fdoving> '
[06:42] <bobesponja> abattoir: I have hda, hdb, hdc and sda
[06:42] <fdoving> kolin: you should.
[06:42] <abattoir> bobesponja: btw, did you get that page where it asks you where to mount etc.(for /home ) ?
[06:42] <kolin> well...i will let you know if i have any other problems
[06:42] <kolin> i appreciate the help
[06:42] <bobesponja> abattoir: yes that was ok thanx
[06:42] <fdoving> kolin: you can, however, try to install it from konsole, with aptitude or apt-get if you suspect that it killed adept.
[06:43] <fdoving> dennister: ok, try 'mount /media/sda1' then.
[06:43] <abattoir> bobesponja: ok, so you dont have a hda at all?
[06:43] <fdoving> dennister: hang on, did you say you want them to be automounted at boot time?
[06:43] <abattoir> bobesponja: i mean, physically....
[06:43] <kolin> i will get into doing that stuff later
[06:43] <kolin> hahaha
[06:43] <dennister> tried the 'mount /media/sda6' it's saying sda5 and sda6 are already mounted, according to fstab
[06:43] <kolin> i am still getting used to al lthis
[06:44] <dennister> yes fdoving...want them always mounted
[06:44] <bobesponja> abattoir: yes I do physically but I'm not installing on it
[06:44] <fdoving> dennister: dennister ok, 'umount -l /dev/sda6;umount -l /dev/sda5;umount -l /dev/sda1'
[06:44] <fdoving> dennister: then try again.
[06:45] <abattoir> bobesponja: ok, where do you want grub to reside.... on the MBR(if Grub is the only boot loader) or on the partition?
[06:45] <bobesponja> abattoir: mbr
[06:46] <fdoving> dennister: if you want them automounted you'll have to edit your fstab again, i was sloppy and missed that part before editing. anyway, just remove the 'noauto' part from the 3 lines, in fstab.
[06:46] <abattoir> bobesponja: ok, could you please tell me about your harddisk(s) setup?
[06:46] <abattoir> bobesponja: how many you have, which is master, which is the one you boot off, etc..
[06:47] <bobesponja> I have three hard disk ATA (hda,hdb,hdc) and hda is the master. I also have a SATA which is sda, I want to install on this one
[06:47] <abattoir> bobesponja: ok, for the MBR, i think hd0 is the right entry
[06:47] <bobesponja> abattoir: ok thanx again
[06:48] <abattoir> bobesponja: you're welcome :)
[06:49] <kolin> you still there fdoving?
[06:49] <fdoving> kolin: sure.
[06:49] <kolin> i downloaded the w32codecs thing
[06:49] <dennister> fdoving...ok...will re-edit fstab...no worries, as I really appreciate your help...I will also make sure that all users will have access, as i tried to mount sda6 now and was told i didn't have enough eprmissions again...
[06:49] <kolin> and i am trying to install it
[06:50] <kolin> and i get this error in the console
[06:50] <kolin> "dpkg: status database area is locked by another process"
[06:50] <bobesponja> abattoir: by the way do you know if sata is really faster than ata?
[06:51] <dennister> that <mount point> is still there in my home directory tho...so I'll try to get it out now
[06:51] <abattoir> bobesponja: well, i've never used SATA, so not from experience
[06:51] <abattoir> bobesponja: but yes, people do tend to rave about it :P
[06:51] <bobesponja> abattoir: ok cool :)
[06:52] <abattoir> i guess the difference wont be that great though, not sure :)
[06:52] <bobesponja> abattoir: I bought it on the internet by mistake I thought it was a ATA, luckily my mother board support SATA too :)
[06:52] <abattoir> heh :)
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> kolin,  close out any other apt programs/frontends.  like adept, synaptic, and so forth.
[06:53] <fdoving> kolin: you probably have a adept running.
[06:54] <fdoving> kolin: do as dr_willis says,close them all.
[06:54] <kolin> i don't see any running
[06:54] <fdoving> !adept crash fix
[06:54] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this command in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock'
[06:54] <fdoving> kolin: try that ^
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> or reboot. :P
[06:55] <kolin> you guys are too good!
[06:55] <kolin> haha
[07:06] <kolin> if i want to build my music collection from the ntfs filesystem on my other hard drive
[07:06] <kolin> where would that be in the tree?
[07:06] <kolin> nevermind
[07:07] <iain> Messing around and stuffed my desktop, not sure what i have done.  I can no longer open folders from my desktop.  For example if I try to open the trash can i get the error malformed url. Or if I click on my home folder VLC opens and tries to open all the files in my home directory.   Any suggestion before I do a fresh install?
[07:14] <fdoving> iain: my guess is that you have removed konqueror  as the default application for directories.
[07:15] <misieq> is there any awk option or some other utility that would escape strings?
[07:15] <fdoving> iain: before you re-install you can try to move your ~/.kde out of the way, starting from a fresh kubuntu settings. for example running this command in konsole: 'mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.bak
[07:15] <thunderbird_> allo
[07:16] <misieq> i have "echo '()" and shell complins about character escaping :(
[07:16] <steffen> tach
[07:16] <fdoving> misieq: what are you trying to do?
[07:17] <misieq> i'm trying to find what string has md5 that would be made of numbers only
[07:18] <fdoving> misieq: how does the input look like? and how do you want the output?
[07:18] <stateofflux> how do I configure my scanner
[07:19] <misieq> !pastebin
[07:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:19] <fdoving> !scanner
[07:19] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[07:19] <fdoving> stateofflux: ^^
[07:20] <stateofflux> fdoving, because I know pclinuxos has the drivers for my scanner
[07:20] <misieq> fdoving: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24543 and that's just tiny bit of the whole thing
[07:21] <fdoving> misieq: and the problem is when?
[07:23] <dennister> fdoving? did some cleanup (more fstab edits, the directories within sda5 and sda6 are now shared with samba) but I still can't seem to delete that <mount point> it seems to be of inode file system type, is totally locked, and editing it as root is not an available option for me...was able to rename it tho
[07:23] <Sharkey> can somebody help me with my kubuntu installation?
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> Sharkey,  elaborate on the propblem and lets find out.
[07:24] <Sharkey> in won't go further than "uncompressing linux... ok,boting the kernel" :S
[07:24] <dennister> maple!: howdy neighbour!
[07:24] <fdoving> dennister: ok, in the shell you can try  'sudo rm -rfi -- name'
[07:25] <fdoving> misieq: i guess you'll get problems when you come to the U=' and U=" part.
[07:25] <Telroth_Plushie|> Sharkey, nothing after that?
[07:25] <Sharkey> nope
[07:26] <Telroth_Plushie|> boot the recovery console
[07:26] <Telroth_Plushie|> see if it gives same message
[07:26] <Sharkey> i get a prompt so i can type
[07:26] <Telroth_Plushie|> ok, so it boots the recovery console?
[07:26] <ep> Where can I test the streaming media plugin I just installed for firefox?
[07:26] <ubuntu> how to view all partitions of disk
[07:27] <Telroth_Plushie|> ep: youtube.com
[07:27] <ubuntu> plz help
[07:27] <ubuntu> !partition
[07:27] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[07:27] <ubuntu> !fdisk
[07:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <iain> fdoving, i have just tried that without sucess.  I am not able to browse when i use Konqueror.  I can browse from th command line or from the default browser of the application I am using
[07:27] <ep> youtube is flash, no?
[07:27] <mrbrdo> yes
[07:28] <fdoving> iain: do you have any idea of what setting you might have changed lately?
[07:28] <Telroth_Plushie|> iain, try sudo apt-get install konqueror --reinstall
[07:28] <Telroth_Plushie|> err
[07:29] <ep> i think youtube was working already, before I installed the mplayer firefox plugin.  Is there some other site to test media plugins to verify they work?
[07:29] <Telroth_Plushie|> you said it did it from the desktop as well?
[07:29] <Sharkey> how do i boot the recovery console?
[07:29] <mrbrdo> is it possible to play an avi directly from .rar multipart archive?
[07:29] <dennister> fdoving: in root shell I typed "m -rfi --/home/cathy/<mount for delete>' and got my usual error message:  -su: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[07:29] <fdoving> mrbrdo: yes, with mplayer you can
[07:29] <Telroth_Plushie|> Sharkey, reboot your computer, it should list linux-<version>
[07:29] <Telroth_Plushie|> and then below it should be linux-<version> (Recovery)
[07:29] <Telroth_Plushie|> pick the recovery option
[07:29] <ubuntu> Hawkwind: dennister Telroth_Plushie|how do i view my partitions in konsole
[07:29] <mrbrdo> fdoving: so just open file.rar with mplayer?
[07:29] <Sharkey> well i'm installing kubuntu on my windows system
[07:30] <Telroth_Plushie|> ubuntu,
[07:30] <Telroth_Plushie|> sudo parted
[07:30] <fdoving> dennister: rename it to 'something' remove the < and >s
[07:30] <Telroth_Plushie|> then type print
[07:30] <Telroth_Plushie|> to specify a particular disk
[07:30] <fdoving> mrbrdo: unrar -p thing.rar|mplayer -
[07:30] <Telroth_Plushie|> sudo parted /dev/hd<whatever>>>
[07:30] <mrbrdo> fdoving: ah ok, thanks
[07:31] <Telroth_Plushie|> i.e. sudo parted /dev/hda
[07:31] <fdoving> mrbrdo: make that 'unrar p thing.rar' without the -
[07:32] <Super_Cat_Frog> hi - i have installed and started avahi-deamon, but the zeroconf ioslave is telling me that mdnsd is not running - any ideas?
[07:33] <dennister> sucess!!!woohoo! had a different error message, but figured it out :-)
[07:34] <fdoving> dennister: great. :)
[07:34] <dennister> fdoving: Thank you! you really rock, or as my son says, "that's gnarly!" <in admiring tones>
[07:34] <fdoving> dennister: you're welcome :)
[07:35] <DrNickRiviera> i have problem with special character, like umlauts, they are always replaced by a little character with a question mark when i use kate or the console
[07:35] <Sharkey>  i don't get a recovery option, i'm installing it for the first time on my windows system
[07:35] <Telroth_Plushie|> OH
[07:35] <fdoving> DrNickRiviera: try to select another font.
[07:35] <Telroth_Plushie|> hrm Sharkey
[07:36] <Telroth_Plushie|> when it gives you the boot prompt
[07:36] <Telroth_Plushie|> type "failsafe"
[07:36] <Sharkey> ok i'll try
[07:36] <dennister> k; I'm gonna logoff for a while, and work on configuring my printer and cups; done that successfully before, so I should be ok for a bit...bback later folks
[07:37] <DrNickRiviera> fdoving: changing the font just turns the icons into squares
[07:38] <Telroth_Plushie|> DrNickRiviera, what font are you using?
[07:38] <yann95200> hi all
[07:38] <fdoving> DrNickRiviera: did you try more than two fonts?
[07:38] <yann95200> i want to disable the external disk icon on my desktop but i didn't find how to do it. Any idea ?
[07:39] <iain> fdoving, did some updates and tried to install google earth i think.
[07:39] <fdoving> iain: ok, then i don't know what i can do to help you.
[07:40] <DrNickRiviera> fdoving: yeah, have tried about 10 now
[07:40] <DrNickRiviera> either the little question mark, a square, or just a blank character where the special character should be
[07:40] <nagyv> hello! I would like to capture a short video using my quickcam. Which program should I use?
[07:40] <DrNickRiviera> if i open a file like this and save it it's "broken" afterwards too
[07:40] <fdoving> yann95200: rightclick on the desktop -> Configure desktop / desktop settings -> behavior -> device icons. (tab)
[07:41] <yann95200> fdoving: thx i just find it :)
[07:41] <DrNickRiviera> php scripts that worked fine beforehand for example give me interpretation errors
[07:42] <Telroth_Plushie|> DrNickRiviera, what font are you using? I accidentally killed X and couldn't see if you replied
[07:42] <fdoving> DrNickRiviera: install the package 'localeconf' that will ask you some questions about your locale and charset settings.
[07:42] <Sharkey> Telroth_Plushie| typing failsafe didn't do anything
[07:43] <fdoving> DrNickRiviera: i suggest installing that package from konsole, with 'aptitude install localeconf'
[07:44] <mrbrdo> fdoving: it doesn't work
[07:45] <mrbrdo> fdoving: Cannot seek backward in linear streams! Seek failed
[07:45] <mrbrdo> fdoving: then EOF
[07:45] <mrbrdo> used command "unrar p orenji-stargate.atlantis.310.rar | mplayer -"
[07:45] <Telroth_Plushie|> Sharkey, i've got to go, you'll need to find someone else to help you
[07:46] <Sharkey> oh ok
[07:46] <nagyv> is there anyone who tried to answer me? (how to capture a video using quickcam?) sorry, but my wifi is not enough reliable, and I get disconnected.
[07:46] <fdoving> mrbrdo: did you try 'mplayer orenji-stargate.atlantis.310.rar' ?
[07:47] <iain> Telroth-Plushil, Great getting there Konqueror works now but still the same problem when i use the system menu shortcuts.
[07:48] <mrbrdo> fdoving: that works, but i don't get any sound, and after a while: "FATAL: Cannot initialize video driver."
[07:49] <fdoving> mrbrdo: works here, i tested with 7-zip. '7zr e -so konq.7z |mplayer -'
[07:49] <mrbrdo> i'll try to play the unrared file first then
[07:49] <Sharkey> i've got a problem installing kubuntu on my system. I boot from DVD but when i select install from the install menu, i get the kubuntu statup screen but that freezes and i get: uncompressing linux... ok, booting the kernel. But after that it stops
[07:50] <mrbrdo> works unrared but a little laggy
[07:50] <mrbrdo> i'm running from samba
[07:50] <nagyv> Sharkey: are you sitting in front of a laptop?
[07:50] <mrbrdo> is there a way to make it buffer a little
[07:50] <fdoving> mrbrdo: if the rar archive contains other files than the avi it might become a problem,you probably have to specify the file you want to extract then.
[07:50] <DrNickRiviera> fdoving: will give localeconf a try, thanks for the tip
[07:50] <Sharkey> no a desktop
[07:51] <nagyv> Sharkey: LCD monitor?
[07:51] <mrbrdo> fdoving: it doesn't.. how to make mplayer buffer an .avi file tho?
[07:51] <Sharkey> no crt
[07:51] <nagyv> Sharkey: then have no clue :(, but you can try to thing I was thinking
[07:52] <fdoving> mrbrdo: for say 5% cache -> 'mplayer -cache-min 5'
[07:52] <nagyv> Sharkey: at the install prompt add something like framebuffer or similar. You can find out what I mean if you click on F2-F5.
[07:53] <Sharkey> ok i'll try
[07:53] <fdoving> mrbrdo: you can also use 'mplayer -cache 2048' for 2M of cache.. if you prefer that to a percentage.
[07:54] <haffy> Is there a standard root password ow what? I can figure it out
[07:54] <fdoving> !root > haffy
[07:54] <haffy> huh?
[07:54] <haffy> Why am I root? Thats werde
[07:54] <fdoving> haffy: read the message you got from ubotu.
[07:54] <fdoving> !root > fdoving
[07:55] <haffy> ok
[07:57] <haffy> cya
[08:01] <nagyv> how can I reconfigure a package? (I have installed mythtv, but gave the wrong mysql password)
[08:02] <fdoving> nagyv: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow packagename
[08:03] <nagyv> fdoving: thx
[08:03] <grothesk_> Is kernel 2.6.15-27-686 built without v4l support?
[08:03] <raven79> hi all
[08:03] <raven79> someone could help me to install kubuntu?
[08:03] <nagyv> grothesk_: I think v4l is included, but I am not sure about
[08:03] <raven79> i has some problem with rp-pppoe
[08:04] <Tm_T> v4l is ofcourse included
[08:04] <nagyv> raven79: what's your problem?
[08:04] <haffy> I think I fucked this up. I did change my user to group "users", and removed me from adm, admin. And now I can not use su -. I want a root account and my user to be a user. How do I do that? Pls help me with this
[08:04] <raven79> i think that that package was not automatically installed into kubuntu sistem
[08:04] <grothesk_> nagyv, it's because we tried the whole day to get a cetain webcom to work.
[08:04] <raven79> (now i'm not on that root partition)
[08:05] <simo> hello every on,I have the problem with webcam is included in mothercard computur
[08:05] <raven79> probably the package has another name...
[08:05] <simo> asus
[08:05] <raven79> because it is not installed into system (i tried both with adsl-start/setup and with rppoe-start)
[08:06] <nagyv> raven79: I had also some basic pppoe problems, but after looking into adept for necessary packages, everything worked without problem
[08:06] <nagyv> haffy: do you have a root account?
[08:06] <raven79> the system does not has those "binary"
[08:06] <raven79> nagyv: adept^
[08:06] <raven79> ?*
[08:06] <haffy> nagyv: I did as ubotu told me
[08:06] <nagyv> simo: forget about. the chipset is not supported. :(
[08:07] <raven79> nagyv: sorry but i'm really a beginner with kubuntu...
[08:07] <simo> okey thanks
[08:07] <nagyv> raven79: now problem. We will figure it out! (If my wifi want's it too :) )
[08:08] <raven79> nagyv: ;)
[08:08] <haffy> Need help, realy good help to.. This is imbarasing
[08:08] <nagyv> haffy: ubotu said to you how to give a password to the root user. So you have a password. Am I correct?
[08:08] <haffy> emberasing.. somthing like that anyway
[08:09] <haffy> yes, but I did change the "haffy" account to users. And took away "adm, admin" from it to. Beacuse root is root for me. And haffy is a user that can "su -".
[08:09] <nagyv> so you have a root password. Just log in typing su in the Konsole
[08:09] <haffy> don work
[08:09] <haffy> dont't work
[08:09] <raven79> sudo su
[08:09] <nagyv> hmm, in this case you don't have a root password :(
[08:09] <raven79> haffy: sudo su?
[08:09] <haffy> haffy@Kubuntu:/$ sudo su
[08:09] <haffy> haffy@Kubuntu:/$
[08:09] <haffy> Thats what happendes
[08:09] <raven79> haffy: whoami
[08:10] <haffy> give me the ressult of haffy
[08:10] <raven79> haffy: nothing...sorry
[08:10] <raven79> haffy: passwd root
[08:10] <raven79> to try to change root passwd
[08:11] <simo> sudo is Root
[08:11] <raven79> if you know root password...you can try to change it...
[08:11] <haffy> raven79:  I don have the permission to do that
[08:11] <nagyv> haffy: try to change the root password: sudo passwd root
[08:11] <haffy> under osx sudo is su
[08:11] <simo> su you mast have passwd for Root
[08:11] <MasterEvilAce> LAME. Is it possible for a cron job that's set to "daily" to run while you're using the computer?
[08:11] <MasterEvilAce> or does it wait until it's idle
[08:12] <raven79> simo: installing kubuntu system tells to type: "sudo su" to became root ;)
[08:12] <haffy> I re install insted, this was to xxxxx crazy...
[08:12] <raven79> haffy: boot with a live cd, and change root password
[08:12] <raven79> haffy:  and then reboot
[08:12] <fdoving> raven79: i suggest using 'sudo -i' instead of 'sudo su'
[08:12] <nagyv> raven79: do you prefer GUIs for ppp?
[08:12] <haffy> raven79:  I have fucked that up allready, there is no root account that I can log into, beacuse I don have the permissions to to "su -"
[08:13] <simo> change passwd you m,ust (vi passwd) then you can change passwd for ROOT
[08:13] <Sharkey> i'm trying to install kubuntu but it won't detect my cdrom player so installation freezes, how can i install my cdrom?
[08:13] <raven79> nagyv: gui? bleah! :D there isn't a command line command like rp-ppoe package?
[08:13] <raven79> adsl-start, or pppoe-start?
[08:13] <haffy> simo: And what shall I do after "vi passwd"
[08:13] <nagyv> MasterEvilAce: you mean that it should take care of the time when your computer is turned off and run after?
[08:14] <raven79> (is not a gui question, but i know that package...only for that)
[08:14] <fdoving> haffy: reboot to recovery mode, and add yourself to the 'admin' group with the command 'adduser username admin' where username is your login name.
[08:14] <raven79> haffy: you must remove the x near root entry
[08:15] <MasterEvilAce> nagyv: Well, my computer locked up while using it. The only thing I can think of is that my prelinking cronjob started up and was raping my CPU
[08:15] <fdoving> haffy: now reboot and use sudo as normal, the command 'sudo passwd' will let you enable the root account and set a password. all this editing passwd by hand stuff is not needed.
[08:15] <haffy> fdoving: I don have the permissions to change somting outside /home/haffy
[08:15] <Buffy^> !mp3
[08:15] <MasterEvilAce> nagyv: personally that is something that should be done when i'm not touching the computer, in my opinion
[08:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:15] <fdoving> haffy: if you reboot to recoverymode you will have.
[08:15] <raven79> haffy i think that most quickly way to solve you problem is  to boot with a livecd...and then typing: "passwd root"
[08:15] <simo> If is not wwork you must start runlevel 1 is linux singel then you can change passwd for ROOT
[08:15] <haffy> or install gentoo ;-)
[08:15] <Sharkey> i'm trying to install kubuntu but it won't detect my cdrom player so installation freezes, how can i install my cdrom?
[08:16] <fdoving> haffy: did you read my previous messages? that's the easy way.
[08:16] <nagyv> MasterEvilAce: all right, now I think have understood your question. The cronjob will run even if you use your compouter once it has to do so.
[08:17] <haffy> fdoving: missed it, I will try that
[08:17] <haffy> cya
[08:17] <raven79> nagyv: so you can help me? either gui is good...if there is not a command line to type...(but i don't has the internet to download a package)
[08:18] <nagyv> raven79: without the not I can't help. Do you have a gprs capable mobile phone?
[08:18] <raven79> no...infact i'm without ideas...
[08:19] <raven79> i cannot connect to the net to download anything, and so i cannot solve the network problem....this is like a snake that eat its tail
[08:19] <arcasa> Someone PLEASE help me! http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263625
[08:19] <simo> my wireless is not work!how I can do+
[08:19] <raven79> some ideas?
[08:19] <fdoving> raven79: what is your problem?
[08:20] <fdoving> arcasa: looks like you need some windows fonts.
[08:20] <nagyv> simo: is it recognized? (System Settings, Networking)
[08:20] <arcasa> Where from?
[08:20] <fdoving> simo: what wifi card?
[08:20] <fdoving> arcasa: windows.
[08:20] <raven79> i has an adsl...but i cannot locate on my system rp-pppoe (the package to start adsl: adsl-start neither pppoe-start are present on my system)
[08:20] <arcasa> Windows fonts from Windows?
[08:21] <arcasa> I mean where do I get them?
[08:21] <raven79> so i cannot connect to internet, neither to download the package to make my net work...
[08:21] <simo> 801.1/a/somthing lik this
[08:21] <fdoving> arcasa: from c:\windows\fonts or something. don't know.
[08:21] <arcasa> Aha. I shall steal them from our Windows PC downstairs.
[08:21] <nagyv> raven79: no ideas :(
[08:22] <raven79> nagyv: thanks anyway ;)
[08:22] <octan> is there a tool that can send a Xmessage to a diff host? i know of xmessage but to use that i need to ssh into the host first and export the display and export the XAUTHORITY=/home/$user/.Xauthority
[08:23] <nagyv> raven79: once you are close to net. You should download to an usb stick for example the knet, ppp, pppconfig, pppoeconf and wvdial packages.
[08:23] <bobesponja> abattoir: I don't have access to /mnt in amarok , do you know why?
[08:23] <nagyv> raven79: I hope these will be enough.
[08:23] <raven79> the basic problem is that installing kubuntu it does not asked me something about the net....it was not able to connect to internet (and that is obvious as i could not setted up my connection parameter) and so it thought that there isn't a network...
[08:24] <Tm_T> fdoving: I see you're young and fast
[08:24] <fdoving> :)
[08:24] <fdoving> lucky :)
[08:24] <USlvlC> nextgens_ attempted to (CTCPflood) you, ignoring (*!i=xterm@gateway/tor/x-a9ff32413fc71714) for 30m
[08:24] <fdoving> message to everyone: don't message nextgens with your password.
[08:25] <raven79> nagyv: and then how i must setup my apt-get config file to tell it where my .deb packages are located?
[08:25] <raven79> (i don't really know if is worse my english or my kubuntu knowleadge) :D
[08:25] <nagyv> raven79: then you can write: apt-get install /home/raven79/packagname.deb
[08:25] <raven79> at least kubuntu is always GNU/Linux!
[08:26] <arcasa>   __ _ _ __ ___ __ _ ___  __ _  / __ \   / \  | | ___| |__   ___ _ __ ___
[08:26] <arcasa>  / _` | '__/ __/ _` / __|/ _` |/ / _` | / _ \ | |/ __| '_ \ / _ \ '_ ` _ \
[08:26] <raven79> ah symply passing the absolute path! wonderfull!
[08:26] <arcasa> | (_| | | | (_| (_| \__ \ (_| | | (_| |/ ___ \| | (__| | | |  __/ | | | | |
[08:26] <nagyv> raven79: it will tell you which packages are missing if any, you can also find out the necessary order to fulfill the dependency problems.
[08:26] <arcasa>  \__,_|_|  \___\__,_|___/\__,_|\ \__,_/_/   \_\_|\___|_| |_|\___|_| |_| |_|
[08:26] <nagyv> raven79: you can do it with relative paths too :)
[08:26] <Tm_T> oh joy
[08:26] <raven79> i thought to modify a config file specifing the local repository...this is better!
[08:26] <fdoving> nagyv: you can't use apt-get to install already downloaded packages. Use 'dpkg -i package.deb'
[08:28] <raven79> guys and probably if i mount the kubuntu partition and then i will chrooted into that...i can use apt-get to try to solve (and so to see) requested dependencies...
[08:28] <raven79> is that right?
[08:28] <fdoving> raven79: pppoeconf is on the kubuntu cd.
[08:28] <raven79> ahhh pppoeconfis?
[08:28] <fdoving> yes.
[08:29] <raven79> mmmm to install it i must type: apt-get install pppoeconfis
[08:29] <raven79> ?
[08:29] <fdoving> try.
[08:31] <raven79> thanks
[08:31] <raven79> now i will try
[08:32] <josh_> what is the command for grepping inside tared files?
[08:34] <raven79> apt-get install pppoeconfis
[08:34] <raven79> E: Malformed line 39 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[08:34] <raven79> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[08:34] <zorglu_> josh_: tar tvzf blabla.tgz | grep blibli
[08:34] <josh_> thank you
[08:34] <fdoving> josh_: 'man -k grep' pick the one you want :)
[08:34] <raven79> sorry done
[08:35] <raven79> E: Couldn't find package pppoeconfis
[08:35] <raven79> where is pppoeconfis into cdrom path?
[08:35] <raven79> i'm not able to locate it with a "find"
[08:36] <raven79> cd /mnt/cdrom0
[08:36] <raven79> find . -name pppoeconfis
[08:36] <raven79> nothing
[08:36] <raven79> find . -name pppoe*
[08:36] <raven79> nothing too
[08:36] <fdoving> raven79: /pool/main/p/pppoeconf/pppoeconf_1.8ubuntu2_all.deb
[08:36] <raven79> ideas?
[08:36] <raven79> thanks fdoving
[08:37] <tony_> hello..  what is the path to mysql on ubuntu ??? need to access right folder to creat DB manually :)
[08:37] <soulrider> raven79:
[08:37] <raven79> i has only this: pptp-linux_1.7.0-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[08:37] <fdoving> you can search for that filename, if you still can't find it.
[08:37] <soulrider> the package pppoeconfig comes with kubuntu by default
[08:37] <soulrider> and its ppporconfiG not pppeoconfiS
[08:37] <raven79> soulrider: i cannot locate its "binary" files
[08:37] <fdoving> raven79: 'find /mnt/cdrom0 -name pppoeconf_1.8ubuntu2_all.deb'
[08:38] <raven79> ah thanks soulrider
[08:38] <soulrider> :)
[08:38] <soulrider> got a DSL connection ?
[08:38] <raven79> fdoving: typing that command i get no results
[08:39] <raven79> soulrider: yes an ADSL...
[08:39] <fdoving> raven79: is your cdrom mounted to /mnt/cdrom0 ?
[08:39] <raven79> under other distros i use rp-pppoe
[08:39] <raven79> usually...
[08:39] <nagyv> tony_: /var/lib/mysql
[08:39] <nagyv> raven79: this is a deb package. It sould be good for you.
[08:39] <soulrider> i can only get ADSL where i cam :(
[08:39] <tony_> thanks nagyv
[08:39] <soulrider> am *
[08:39] <soulrider> no calbe
[08:39] <Neostream> hi
[08:39] <soulrider> cable*
[08:39] <raven79> fdoving: no i get cdrom mounted under /media/cdrom0 but i changed find path ;)
[08:40] <soulrider> raven79: i got a couple of apps that could be useful for you
[08:40] <soulrider> want me to send ?
[08:40] <fdoving> raven79: well, try 'find /media/cdrom0 -name 'pppoeconf*' then.
[08:40] <raven79> soulrider: ok thanks
[08:40] <nagyv> any ideas how to record a video using a webcam?
[08:41] <raven79> fdoving: nothing...anyway i already tried with a find command...
[08:41] <fdoving> nagyv: try the camstream package (quick apt-cache search not tested')
[08:41] <fdoving> raven79: ok, strange.
[08:41] <fdoving> raven79: is this a 6.06 cd?
[08:42] <robert__> hei
[08:42] <scion> hrllo
[08:42] <raven79> fdoving: i don't know...how can i test it?
[08:42] <ubuntu>  i need help when my pc boot while loading the /etc/init.d i get permission denined
[08:42] <Neostream> I'm new in linux I'm trying with kubuntu, but my problem is the adsl, I have a speedtouch 330 usb adsl modem but no is PPPOE is RFCL1803B no have pass and user, the conection is automatic, and cant found a howto for this, if someone can help me please.
[08:43] <fdoving> raven79: ah.. just found out the desktop-cd, which is also a livecd, doesn't have pppoeconf. so i guess you're out of luck.
[08:43] <scion> Neostream: is there not a reset button on the back of the router/modem?
[08:44] <fdoving> raven79: the alternate cd, got pppoeconf on it.
[08:44] <scion> Neostream: to reset it? the username has to be admin!!
[08:44] <raven79> alternate? i did not get it...
[08:44] <slow-motion> re
[08:46] <Buffy^> !mp3
[08:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:47] <fdoving> raven79: there are two cds. desktop/live and alternate. desktop/live is the new shiny installer, and alternate is the good old text/curses based debian-installer. you have the new shiny desktop/live installer, and pppoeconf isn't included on that cd.
[08:47] <Neostream> scion are u there?
[08:47] <raven79> shit...i hate "gui installer"...and i downloaded it! i'm really out of lucky! :D
[08:48] <scion> Neostream: yes i am
[08:48] <Neostream> I was talking with u
[08:48] <Neostream> but dont respond
[08:48] <dudei> hey
[08:48] <scion> Neostream: when?
[08:48] <Neostream> in private msg
[08:48] <scion> hello dudei
[08:49] <dudei> Can I access my hda1 partition from a live CD?
[08:49] <scion> Neostream: i think not
[08:49] <Neostream> m well
[08:49] <Neostream> my modem is the platinium
[08:49] <dudei> I sorta screwed up X on my install
[08:49] <Neostream> speedtouch 330
[08:49] <Neostream> no have buttons
[08:49] <Neostream> only the connector for the usb port
[08:49] <Neostream> the pass and user is otorgate for the server i think , only i can see the speed in the modem
[08:50] <Neostream> i have 2 weeks reading about it but, only found tutos for PPPOE modems
[08:50] <scion> Neostream: is there a hole at the back that you can stick a pen or something into it?
[08:50] <Neostream> let me see
[08:50] <Neostream> nop
[08:51] <scion> ok i'm having a google look
[08:51] <Neostream> this http://www.bizbuyer24.com/inc/img/products/prod_17018.jpg
[08:51] <nagyv> fdoving: as I see camstream can only capture images, but not a video "stream"
[08:51] <Neostream> me2
[08:51] <Neostream> that model
[08:51] <cango__> help i can't install xine
[08:51] <|lostbyte|> cango__, Why ?
[08:52] <cango__> i am a new user for linux
[08:52] <orbish> do you guys take edgy questions?
[08:52] <dudei> how do I access my hard drive from the live CD?
[08:52] <fdoving> nagyv: ah.. then i don't know.
[08:52] <LeeJunFan> orbish: somewhat but #ubuntu+1 is the official edgy channel
[08:52] <scion> cango__: does xine not show up in the adept search?
[08:52] <LeeJunFan> I'm running edgy though.
[08:52] <orbish> thanks leejun
[08:53] <orbish> well maybe you can help me
[08:53] <LeeJunFan> Go for it.
[08:53] <Neostream> scion u see the model '
[08:53] <cango__> i dont understand what u say
[08:54] <orbish> I just updated repositories and dist-upgrade my box, xorg switched my resolutions up... I changed the xorg.conf file to my modeline and resolutions... but in KDE itself, i've lost the ability to change the desktop resolution
[08:54] <scion> start > System > Adept
[08:54] <orbish> kde-systemsettings no longer keeps a "display" section, for me to change it
[08:54] <scion> Neostream: i'm doing a little research
[08:54] <cango__> i cant play my divx
[08:54] <Neostream> but u know how is the modem :O
[08:55] <Neostream> http://www.bizbuyer24.com/inc/img/products/prod_17018.jpg >>>this
[08:55] <Neostream> ok thnx
[08:55] <LeeJunFan> orbish: yeah, I noticed that as well. I think it was removed.
[08:55] <orbish> cango__ if you're new to ubuntu and just want it to work, google search easyubuntu
[08:55] <cango__> help me please
[08:55] <orbish> it works with kubuntu as well
[08:55] <scion> Neostream: the picture means nothing, I need the specifications
[08:55] <Neostream> ok
[08:55] <MenZa> !easyubuntu
[08:55] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[08:56] <MenZa> :)
[08:56] <cango__> ok
[08:56] <orbish> leejunfan: tahnks i'll check the other channel
[08:56] <LeeJunFan> orbish: yeah, it's also missing from kcontrol.
[08:56] <scion> cango__: press the K in the bottom left corner - go to system and click on adept
[08:56] <Neostream> that have some info about my modem
[08:57] <scion> Neostream: relax
[08:57] <cango__> ok i did it
[08:57] <orbish> i told xorg.conf the only resolution acceptable was "1280x720" and it keeps it in 1280x768... it's really annoying, and I'm not experienced enough to know why it's doing that
[08:57] <Neostream> ok sorry
[08:57] <LeeJunFan> orbish: well - it's there but it does nothing, maybe another package is required.
[08:57] <orbish> logically you'd think it would work
[08:57] <cango__> i open adept
[08:57] <orbish> alright, i'll go ask the edgy guys
[08:58] <scion> is xine appearing when you search for it?
[08:58] <cango__> ok
[08:58] <cango__> yeah
[08:58] <scion> install it and install the extracodecs aswell
[08:59] <cango__> where can i find extracodecs
[08:59] <LeeJunFan> orbish: open kcontrol in a shell and try to open the display settings from there, it gives some errors as to what's failing. Might be some missing stuff.
[08:59] <orbish> leejunfan: ok
[08:59] <scion> when you type xine into the search box you should be able to see a package called xine-extracodecs
[08:59] <cango__> scion where can i find extracodecs
[09:00] <cango__> i cant see
[09:00] <scion> cango__: ok you need to update your sources.list
[09:00] <cango__> how to update my sources.list
[09:01] <scion> okok wait one second
[09:01] <ubuntu_> nick luciano
[09:01] <scion> Neostream: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190359&highlight=speedtouch+330
[09:01] <cango__> ok
[09:01] <Neostream> ok let me see
[09:02] <Neostream> and thnx
[09:02] <orbish> leejunfan: no resolution settings in kcontrol
[09:02] <LeeJunFan> orbish: under peripherials - monitor and display.
[09:02] <cango__> i wait
[09:02] <scion> cango__: go here - http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:02] <cango__> scion i wait
[09:03] <D3ltaCain> can any one help me with printer problems?
[09:03] <D3ltaCain> as in my printer isnt doing anything after I installed the drivers?
[09:03] <racookier> hi
[09:03] <scion> cango__: wait for what?
[09:03] <scion> cango__: follow the link I gave you there
[09:03] <ubuntu_> hey there... i'm installing from a live CD, and i want to keep half my hd to windows, but it says on the install that i have to "mount" that partition... my question is this: if I "mount" it will it erase all files ??
[09:04] <ubuntu_> is mounting the windows partition harmless ?
[09:04] <orbish> leejunfan: peripherals has no monitor section
[09:04] <LeeJunFan> hrm, does on mine. It could be that kubuntu-default-settings hides it.
[09:04] <racookier> i connect to internet via proxy, konqueror browse the web but apt, wget, cant connect
[09:04] <soulrider> !pastebin
[09:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:05] <racookier> so what to do ?
[09:05] <LeeJunFan> orbish: rm -rf /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings perhaps and retry.
[09:05] <scion> cango__: select the Cipherfunk multimedia packages and click the button at the bottom when you have selected everything you want, this will give you a sources file, when you have that let me know and i will tell you the next step
[09:05] <orbish> ok
[09:05] <LeeJunFan> orbish: or maybe it's /usr/share/apps/kubuntu-default-settings.
[09:05] <scion> Neostream: any luck with that link?
[09:06] <cango__> i cant see cipherfunk
[09:06] <orbish> leejunfan: removed default-settings, reloaded kcontrol through console, nothing
[09:07] <orbish> edgy channel is dead
[09:07] <soulrider> yes it is
[09:07] <orbish> i'm going to look over the xorg.conf file again
[09:08] <Neostream> scion: i already read that
[09:08] <LeeJunFan> orbish: brb - gotta reload X and see if something worked. :)
[09:08] <orbish> okie dokie
[09:08] <Neostream> but i think i need frimware version 4.0 for speedtouch 330
[09:08] <scion> cango__: its halfway down the page
[09:08] <scion> Neostream: ok i'll continue looking
[09:09] <Neostream> thnx
[09:09] <LeeJunFan> orbish: owell, I dunno.
[09:09] <cango__> ok i see it
[09:09] <scion> Neostream: how about http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html
[09:10] <orbish> leejunfan
[09:10] <cango__> ok i do it
[09:10] <orbish> take a look at this and tell me if you see anything wrong... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24554
[09:10] <cango__> and kate opened
[09:11] <cango__> scion
[09:11] <scion> cango__: yes
[09:11] <Neostream> yep i was reffering to that , i already read that but i think i need this http://www.speedtouchdsl.com/driver_upgrade_lx_3.0.1.2.htm
[09:11] <cango__> now what can i do
[09:12] <LeeJunFan> orbish: nope, all looks good to me.
[09:12] <orbish> hmm
[09:12] <raven79> bye at all and thanks for help
[09:12] <scion> ok you have a large file with all the universe multiverse and all that stuff
[09:13] <cango__> scion are you there
[09:13] <scion> cango__: open a terminal and type sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:13] <LeeJunFan> orbish: well, I have a feeling my monitor control won't load because I'm running xgl. So it can't detect vesa stuff. But why you don't even have the option I don't know.
[09:13] <jasondotgnu> hello, what's the pacage name of xorg 7.1 in edgy?
[09:14] <orbish> leejunfan: how can i tell if i'm running xgl?
[09:14] <scion> cango__: and copy and paste the new onto the old
[09:14] <cango__> scion
[09:14] <cango__> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[09:14] <scion> cango__: after that is done type the following command - suddo apt-get update
[09:14] <cango__>   Major opcode:  145
[09:14] <Neostream> scion: u know about some script, that i can use for connect in mode briged rfc
[09:15] <cango__>   Minor opcode:  3
[09:15] <cango__>   Resource id:  0x0
[09:15] <cango__> Failed to open device
[09:15] <cango__> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[09:15] <cango__>   Major opcode:  145
[09:15] <cango__>   Minor opcode:  3
[09:15] <Neostream> RFC1483
[09:15] <Neostream> sorry
[09:15] <cango__>   Resource id:  0x0
[09:15] <cango__> Failed to open device
[09:15] <cango__> ScimInputContextPlugin()
[09:15] <cango__> kate: WARNING: Can't open /root/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml
[09:15] <cango__> my pc is write
[09:15] <cango__> my pc said an error
[09:15] <scion> cango__: did kate open
[09:15] <cango__> ok
[09:15] <cango__> yeah
[09:15] <LeeJunFan> orbish: try running 'kcmshell displayconfig' from konsole
[09:16] <scion> Neostream: no sorry
[09:16] <Neostream> ok thnx for the help  man :)
[09:16] <scion> well then ignore the errors, not you can edit the sources.list as root
[09:16] <scion> Neostream: np
[09:16] <cango__> scion
[09:17] <scion> cango__
[09:17] <cango__> error contains that
[09:17] <cango__> kate: WARNING: Can't open /root/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml
[09:17] <cango__> QObject::disconnect: Unexpected null parameter
[09:17] <cango__> ~ScimInputContextPlugin()
[09:17] <scion> cango__: WTF?
[09:17] <orbish> now we're on to something:  "WARNING: Could not find module 'displayconfig'."
[09:17] <cango__> what is WTF
[09:18] <cango__> i m sorry i am a rookie for linux
[09:18] <orbish> what the fuck is wtf?
[09:18] <scion> cango__: nevermind, try sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:18] <|lostbyte|> orbish, No foul lang in here..
[09:18] <orbish> sorry about that
[09:18] <cango__> i write to konsole
[09:18] <zorglu_> !baddevice
[09:19] <ubotu> baddevice is If you are getting errors similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168  Then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[09:19] <scion> cango_: yes
[09:19] <zorglu_> cango, the above url will remove the 'bad device 168' you are seeing
[09:19] <LeeJunFan> orbish: /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_displayconfig.a is part of package kde-guidance
[09:20] <scion> cango_: WTF means what the fuck
[09:20] <zorglu_> and lets avoid this kind of language here :)
[09:20] <scion> did sources.list open in konsole?
[09:21] <scion> zorglu_: thats why i typed wtf :P
[09:21] <zorglu_> scion: the same apply :)
[09:21] <orbish> brb
[09:22] <scion> zorglu_: oppps ahh well i'm irish and its a popular word here
[09:22] <dhq> hey guys i have a problem let me start by telling it i when into the systemsettind panel and over there i when into disk and there i by mistake put /dev/hda4 as root now i get all permission denined and kubuntu wont load please help me
[09:23] <cango__> i really don't understand what u say
[09:23] <cango__> do you tell me smple
[09:23] <cango__> do u tell me simple
[09:23] <|lostbyte|> cango__, he has a problem with booting the kernel.
[09:23] <dhq> cango__, i changed the root to /dev/hda4
[09:24] <scion> cango__: open konsole and type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and tell me when you did that
[09:24] <orbish> leejunfan: you are a good amongst men
[09:24] <zorglu_> scion: no problem, just as this channel is internnational, some rules are different as what is offending for whom :)
[09:24] <orbish> fixed! can i ask you a question though?
[09:24] <LeeJunFan> orbish: yeah.
[09:25] <cango__> today
[09:25] <dhq> cango__, anyideas
[09:25] <scion> zorglu_: i understand but when i tried to send him/her a PM it was denied due to potential spam, how exactly do i register so I can send PMs?
[09:25] <|lostbyte|> dhq,, what error do  you get ?
[09:25] <orbish> two parts, how did you know kcm_displayconfig.a was what I was missing, and also, how did you know it was in the package kde-guidance?  this will help me fix things in the future
[09:25] <zorglu_> !register
[09:25] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:25] <zorglu_> scion: this doesnt work ?
[09:26] <cango__> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
[09:26] <cango__> #deb http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[09:26] <cango__> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
[09:26] <scion> !register
[09:26] <cango__> #deb-src http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[09:26] <dhq> well while loading everysingle this it give permission denined and just hangs
[09:26] <cango__> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[09:26] <cango__> ## distribution.
[09:26] <zorglu_> !paste
[09:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:26] <dhq> |lostbyte|, well while loading everysingle this it give permission denined and just hangs
[09:26] <cango__> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
[09:26] <zorglu_> cango__: it what for you
[09:26] <zorglu_> it was for you
[09:27] <LeeJunFan> orbish: I knew it had to be a lib, so I just ls "*display*" in /usr/lib/kde3, and dpkg -S kcm_displayconfig.a told me what it belonged to.
[09:27] <Buffy^> good day
[09:27] <Buffy^> does Kub have synaptic or just adept
[09:28] <orbish> leejunfan: i'll copy that down and read it a couple times and learn what's up... thanks a lot!
[09:28] <fdoving> Buffy^: adept by default, you can however install synaptic if you want it.
[09:28] <zorglu_> |lostbyte|: do you mind removing the | at the begining of your nick, it make it hard to reply to you. as a personnal favor :)
[09:28] <LeeJunFan> orbish: you're welcome.
[09:28] <Buffy^> right
[09:28] <Buffy^> apt-get synaptic
[09:28] <nagyv> is here anyone using xawtv to create an avi file? It always saves me a ppm file.
[09:28] <|lostbyte|> zorglu_, ok
[09:28] <zorglu_> |lostbyte|: thanks :)
[09:28] <cango__> scion help me
[09:28] <cango__> please
[09:28] <scion> zorglu_: i keep getting - [20:28]  [505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! (
[09:29] <zorglu_> scion: you need to register your nick by following the intructions on the url
[09:29] <zorglu_> scion: it works, i did it this morning :)
[09:29] <lostbyte> zorglu_, have any idea, about dhq's problem..
[09:29] <cango__> scion i format my kubuntu if anybody doesn't help me
[09:29] <scion> cango__: did the webpage i send you to give you a new updated  sources.list file?
[09:29] <Buffy^> bah i had tried that before and it didint work ... scrolls up the cones to 1 hour ago, shiz it was spelt worng :(
[09:30] <zorglu_> cango__: all your repositories have been disable because your box was on the internet during the install
[09:30] <scion> cango__: a format won't fix your problem
[09:30] <zorglu_> lostbyte: nope i didnt follow it :)
[09:30] <cango__> i can't see
[09:30] <zorglu_> !source
[09:30] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:30] <dhq> isnt there any restore mode in linux like in windows
[09:30] <fdoving> dhq: can you repeat your problem?
[09:30] <zorglu_> dhq: can you describe what is this 'restore' mode
[09:30] <dhq> hey guys i have a problem let me start by telling it i when into the systemsettind panel and over there i when into disk and there i by mistake put /dev/hda4 as root now i get all permission denined and kubuntu wont load please help me
[09:30] <zorglu_> cango__: just put a new sources.list
[09:31] <zorglu_> !sources
[09:31] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:31] <fdoving> dhq: ah, you set /dev/hda4 to mount to / and that's wrong?
[09:31] <dhq> yeah i guess
[09:31] <Homer> I think ati drivers actually do nothing
[09:31] <scion> zorglu_: that is what i am trying to get cango__ to do!
[09:31] <dhq> fdoving,
[09:31] <scion> Homer: what you mean?
[09:31] <fdoving> dhq: grub loads, right?
[09:32] <zorglu_> scion: find a clean sources.list for him to download and replace
[09:32] <scion> okok
[09:32] <fdoving> dhq: you just get a kernel panic or something like that? do you know what partition is your correct root partition?
[09:32] <dhq> fdoving, zorglu_  now when i boot i get all permission denined for the whole boot and it just hangs
[09:32] <scion> cango__: are you using dapper? and what country are you in?
[09:32] <zorglu_> dhq: what do you mean by 'permission denied', what make you say that
[09:32] <dhq> fdoving, yes grub works well
[09:33] <dhq> zorglu_, it comes on the screen
[09:33] <fdoving> dhq: ok, hang on.. brb.
[09:33] <zorglu_> dhq: ok you are fdoving client :)
[09:33] <dhq> fdoving, come soon i am panicing
[09:33] <Homer> scion: I got ati drivers installed but opengl runs so slow
[09:33] <Homer> i read the wiki on ati drivers and they say it's a bug with amd64 ati drivers
[09:33] <scion> Homer: did you install the drivers straight from the ati website?
[09:33] <zorglu_> Homer: do 'glxinfo | grep rendering' and tell us what it reply
[09:33] <Homer> yes
[09:34] <scion> so did I and everything is fine here using fglrx
[09:34] <Homer> glxinfo | grep rendering
[09:34] <Homer> yes on direct rendering
[09:34] <Homer> scion: amd64?
[09:34] <scion> openGL/quake3/counterstrike/unreal
[09:34] <fdoving> dhq: ok, had to give my girlfriend a hand. kid won't sleep. :|
[09:34] <zorglu_> Homer: ok you get 3d acceleration
[09:34] <scion> Homer: 32bit
[09:35] <dhq> fdoving, no problem
[09:35] <scion> cango__: 2 questions
[09:35] <fdoving> dhq: ok, when booting, you get to the grub boot menu, right? you can select what kernel to use.
[09:35] <scion> cango__: 1 - what country are you in
[09:35] <dhq> yes
[09:35] <dhq> fdoving, yes
[09:35] <scion> cango__: 2 - are you using dapper??
[09:35] <zorglu_> scion: from previous paste, he is in .tr
[09:35] <Homer> It appears that fglrx is often unstable, at least on AMD64. System may lock on 8.25 driver. 3D accell may not work on 8.28.
[09:36] <Homer> I got the 3d acell not working problem
[09:36] <Homer> heh
[09:36] <dhq> fdoving, well what do i gotta do
[09:36] <zorglu_> Homer: you are sure to wanna use 64-bit version ? it is harder to maintain for beginner
[09:36] <dhq> fdoving, i cant get into kubuntu at al
[09:36] <fdoving> dhq: select the newest one, but the recovery mode. press 'e' when it's selected. Now you should be able to edit the parameters sendt to the kernel.
[09:36] <cango__> turkey
[09:36] <scion> zorglu_: ok is it dapper or what?
[09:36] <Homer> well I'm fine other then that zorglu_
[09:36] <fdoving> dhq: the essence here is to press 'e', not enter. ok?
[09:36] <Homer> I don't need 3d to work yet
[09:36] <Homer> I'm just hoping ati fixes the bug
[09:36] <zorglu_> scion: dunno
[09:37] <zorglu_> Homer: ok
[09:37] <dhq> fdoving, so then what will happen
[09:37] <Homer> everything else works fine
[09:37] <scion> zorglu_: it makes a difference
[09:37] <zorglu_> scion: clearly :)
[09:37] <cango__> im from turkey
[09:37] <zorglu_> cango__: still there ? how did you install your kubuntu ? did you install it recently ?
[09:37] <fdoving> dhq: you can now edit the parameters sendt to the kernel when the kernel is loading.
[09:38] <scion> cango__: are you using dapper?
[09:38] <fdoving> dhq: do you know what is your correct root partition?
[09:38] <cango__> yes
[09:38] <dhq> fdoving, well i dunno
[09:38] <cango__> im using dapper
[09:38] <Homer> wait wait
[09:38] <scion> cango__: what is your email address
[09:38] <Homer> ati already fixed the bug
[09:38] <Homer> heh
[09:38] <fdoving> dhq: you know it's not /dev/hda4.
[09:38] <fdoving> dhq: how many partitions do you have?
[09:38] <cango__> berkeri@gmail.com
[09:38] <fdoving> dhq: do you have access to a livecd?
[09:38] <dhq> fdoving, well i have 2 more
[09:38] <Homer> scion: what version drivers are you using?
[09:39] <cango__> what did u my email adress
[09:39] <dhq> fdoving, yes i have access
[09:39] <fdoving> dhq: can you get online from the livecd?
[09:39] <zorglu_> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic <- may be of help
[09:39] <lostbyte> fdoving, he is online on it right now..
[09:39] <dhq> fdoving, okies i will be back in 2 mins dont go anywhere
[09:39] <cango__> scion
[09:39] <fdoving> lostbyte: ah, nice to know. thanks.
[09:39] <fdoving> dhq: aint you online from the livecd?
[09:39] <dhq> lostbyte, i am on windows
[09:40] <lostbyte> dhq, hai, you told me you were on livecd.
[09:40] <cango__> what did u send to me
[09:40] <fdoving> ok, dhq tell me when you're back from the livecd :)
[09:40] <dhq> ok brb
[09:40] <dhq> lostbyte, that was b4 i was on the live cd
[09:40] <dhq> anyways brb
[09:40] <fdoving> i'll be waiting.
[09:40] <cango__> scion are u there
[09:40] <racookier> i change the /etc/network/interfaces (add gateaway and nameservers) but apt dont have connection to upgrade the system
[09:41] <fdoving> racookier: do you use a proxy? can you do other things online?
[09:42] <scion> cango__: writing you an email
[09:42] <zorglu_> cango__: put the nick of the personn you are talking to at the begining of your sentence, it helps the communication a lot
[09:42] <racookier> yes i can browse with konqueror
[09:42] <zorglu_> racookier: and ping to the repository host works ?
[09:42] <cango__> thanks ur advice scion
[09:43] <fdoving> racookier: ok. can you pastebin the output of 'apt-get update' ?
[09:43] <MetaMorfoziS> whatis prelink?
[09:43] <fdoving> !pastebin > racookier
[09:43] <cango__> scion thanks ur advice
[09:43] <cango__> scion: thanks ur advice
[09:43] <cango__> is that true
[09:43] <zorglu_> MetaMorfoziS: some tools to reduce the latency when launching an apps
[09:43] <fdoving> !info prelink
[09:43] <ubotu> prelink: ELF prelinking utility to speed up dynamic linking. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.20050901-1 (dapper), package size 659 kB, installed size 1016 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 i386 powerpc ppc64)
[09:43] <fdoving> MetaMorfoziS: ^^
[09:43] <fdoving> !prelink
[09:43] <ubotu> prelink: ELF prelinking utility to speed up dynamic linking. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.20050901-1 (dapper), package size 659 kB, installed size 1016 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 i386 powerpc ppc64)
[09:44] <fdoving> ok. that's the same. as !info..
[09:44] <cango__> scion
[09:44] <inam> !ask
[09:44] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:44] <racookier> Error resolving nameserver
[09:45] <cango__> scion: do u tell me simply my codecs
[09:45] <zorglu_> !ipv6
[09:45] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[09:45] <cango__> scion: do u tell me simply how to install my codecs
[09:45] <zorglu_> racookier: have you disable ipv6, this may be that
[09:45] <n00btard> what's the package for the ms fonts?
[09:45] <zorglu_> !easyubuntu
[09:45] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[09:45] <zorglu_> cango__: you will likely like easyubuntu :)
[09:45] <fdoving> n00btard: msttcorefonts
[09:46] <n00btard> ty
[09:46] <scion> cango__: i will try :)
[09:46] <racookier> nope but will review
[09:47] <cango__> scion: ok
[09:47] <XVampireX> Want to play Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction?
[09:47] <Homer> how do you uninstall with aptget
[09:47] <zorglu_> XVampireX: very ontopic :)
[09:47] <fdoving> XVampireX: please take that to #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:47] <zorglu_> Homer: sudo apt-get remove yourpackage.dev
[09:47] <zorglu_> .deb
[09:47] <XVampireX> I figure there are more people here
[09:47] <Homer> thanks
[09:47] <cango_> scion: but i want learn linux
[09:48] <fdoving> zorglu_: can you apt-get remove a package with .deb extension?
[09:48] <fdoving> dhq: welcome back.
[09:48] <dhq> fdoving: _lostbyte_
[09:48] <zorglu_> fdoving: dont think so, it seems more like me saying it :)
[09:48] <_lostbyte_> :)
[09:48] <dhq> thanx
[09:48] <MetaMorfoziS> and is it normal, it running first time for 0.45-1 hour?
[09:48] <MetaMorfoziS> Sysinfo for 'macisajt': Linux 2.6.15-27-k7 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: mobile AMD Athlon XP-M 2000+ at 1658 MHz (1328 bogomips), HD: 24/36GB, RAM: 184/186MB, 90 proc's, 7.58h up
[09:48] <MetaMorfoziS> on this machine?
[09:49] <MetaMorfoziS> (prelink)
[09:49] <zorglu_> Homer: as fdoving corrected it is 'sudo apt-get remove yourpackagenamewithoutdeb'
[09:49] <MetaMorfoziS> !info elf
[09:49] <ubotu> Package elf does not exist in any distro I know
[09:49] <dhq> fdoving: what do i do now
[09:49] <scion> cango_: an email has been sent to you, follow that and tell me when you are finished.
[09:49] <MetaMorfoziS> what is ELF?
[09:49] <scion> i am going for a smoke
[09:49] <fdoving> zorglu_: i know, just asked the question trying not to be rude :)
[09:49] <dhq> *
[09:49] <n00btard> anyone know why the msttcorefonts package wont show in Adept? (and yes, i enabled all the repositories)
[09:49] <zorglu_> MetaMorfoziS: it is the binary format of the executable on linux, may be seen as .exe
[09:50] <zorglu_> fdoving: maoaouaoua :)
[09:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> did you update after adding all the repos ?
[09:50] <n00btard> ummm
[09:50] <n00btard> how do i do that?
[09:50] <inam> click on fetch updates
[09:50] <n00btard> oh ya i did that
[09:50] <MetaMorfoziS> zorglu_:mm okay! thanx
[09:50] <inam> but i used easyubuntu to get msttcorefonts...
[09:50] <dhq> _lostbyte_: need help
[09:50] <fdoving> dhq: first, open konsole (kmenu -> system -> konsole) and run 'sudo cat /proc/partitions' - please paste the output of that command to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:51] <Telroth_Plushie|> inam, they're all the same
[09:51] <Telroth_Plushie|> the only differences are default packages
[09:51] <Telroth_Plushie|> n00btard, search for "msttc" in adept
[09:51] <cango_> scion: how can i delete sources.list content
[09:52] <Telroth_Plushie|> it should be the first and only package to show up
[09:52] <Telroth_Plushie|> cango_, you don't want to do that.
[09:52] <dhq> fdoving: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24561
[09:52] <cango_> but you write it
[09:53] <Telroth_Plushie|> cango_, i'd like to know why you need it before I tell you how.
[09:53] <scion> cango_: please wait, I will send you an simple email again
[09:53] <Telroth_Plushie|> Because if you screw it up by deleting the file, then i or someone has to help you again, and it's easier to help someone once instead of twice
[09:53] <cango_> ok thanks
[09:53] <fdoving> dhq: looks like /dev/hda1 is your root partition, you can try to mount it to check.
[09:54] <lupine_85> !
[09:54] <lupine_85> !kash
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <cango_> Telroth_Plushie: i can't play mp3's & aavis
[09:54] <cango_> avis
[09:54] <_lostbyte_> fdoving, he has root on hda4
[09:54] <lupine_85> bah. anyone know what a KDE money-managing program would be called?
[09:54] <dhq> fdoving: how do i do that
[09:54] <fdoving> dhq: in console run 'sudo mkdir -p /media/tmp'
[09:54] <_lostbyte_> argh.. ingmore me..
[09:54] <Telroth_Plushie|> cango_, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[09:54] <zorglu_> !codec >cango_
[09:54] <ironfroggy> hey i got a friend with a problem. can kubuntu be installed on a harddrive and then moved to a different machine?
[09:54] <Telroth_Plushie|> cango_, see, no need to delete sources.list ;)
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <fdoving> _lostbyte_: wasn't that what he said he did wrong in the first place? set root to /dev/hda4?
[09:54] <ironfroggy> he's trying to get it installed on a machine that has no CD-ROM
[09:54] <zorglu_> !codecs >cango_
[09:54] <Telroth_Plushie|> !mp3 > cango_
[09:54] <dhq> _lostbyte_: sorry
[09:55] <zorglu_> ironfroggy: there is a wiki entry for that
[09:55] <fdoving> ironfroggy: yes, but don't expect everything to work out of the box when the disk has been moved.
[09:55] <lupine_85> !kmymoney
[09:55] <_lostbyte_> np
[09:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmymoney - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <lupine_85> !kmymoney2
[09:55] <ironfroggy> is there something you can do to reconfigure everything once its on the new box?
[09:55] <ubotu> kmymoney2: Personal finance manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 6404 kB, installed size 12552 kB
[09:55] <ironfroggy> rerun the stuff the installation does to configure everything?
[09:55] <fdoving> dhq: then in konsole 'sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/tmp'
[09:56] <racookier> no, ipv6 it's enabled, konqueror browse the web, but apt cant look for servers
[09:56] <zorglu_> !netboot
[09:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:56] <zorglu_> ironfroggy: for you
[09:56] <cango_> Telroth_Plushie|: E  Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[09:56] <zorglu_> racookier: ping the repository host and see what it reply
[09:56] <dhq> fdoving: now how do i make that root
[09:56] <zorglu_> cango_: wont work without sources.lists
[09:56] <zorglu_> cango_: one thing at a time
[09:57] <Telroth_Plushie|> cango_, do you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[09:57] <fdoving> dhq: did you run the commands i gave you?
[09:57] <Telroth_Plushie|> !repos
[09:57] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:57] <dhq> yes
[09:57] <_lostbyte_> dhq, just type the comand he says..
[09:57] <fdoving> dhq: now you can open konqueror, and go to /media/tmp
[09:57] <dhq> fdoving: yes
[09:57] <zorglu_> Telroth_Plushie|: updating from previous talk, he doesnt have any repository last time i asked
[09:57] <dhq> fdoving: okies
[09:57] <mrbrdo> how can you make Konqueror SELECT a file on 1 click and execute on DOUBLE click?
[09:57] <zorglu_> Telroth_Plushie|: due to an install without inet connected
[09:57] <Telroth_Plushie|> zorglu_, cango_ doesn't ?
[09:57] <dhq> _lostbyte_: yes boss
[09:57] <racookier> unknown host
[09:57] <fdoving> dhq: is that your root partition?
[09:57] <zorglu_> Telroth_Plushie|: yep
[09:58] <zorglu_> racookier: tried to disable ipv6 ?
[09:58] <dhq> fdoving: nope
[09:58] <_lostbyte_> :P
[09:58] <fdoving> dhq: what is it then?
[09:58] <zorglu_> racookier: what is the hostname, just to check
[09:58] <fdoving> _lostbyte_: looks like you're right about the root partition :)
[09:58] <_lostbyte_> dhq, do you see files like /etc/ /tmp/ proc ?
[09:58] <_lostbyte_> :)
[09:58] <lupine_85> mrbrdo: in 'systwem settings' somewhere
[09:58] <mrbrdo> how can i change Konqueror to not execute files\open directories on click, but on double click? plz
[09:58] <cango_> Telroth_Plushie|: what is universe & multiverse? How can i see them?
[09:58] <dhq> _lostbyte_: nope
[09:58] <mrbrdo> ok
[09:58] <fdoving> dhq: is it your windows partition then?
[09:58] <office> help
[09:59] <office> ho wcan i share one folder for windows networc?
[09:59] <Telroth_Plushie|> !repos > cango_
[09:59] <zorglu_> racookier: still here ?
[09:59] <office> k
[09:59] <dhq> fdoving: nope its not my windows partition
[09:59] <cango_> yeah
[09:59] <fdoving> dhq: what do you see?
[09:59] <dhq> my windows partition is 6 gb
[09:59] <zorglu_> cango_: want to learn linux, good :) read this url :)
[09:59] <scion> cango_: new email sent
[09:59] <_lostbyte_> :o
[09:59] <dhq> well its all my music file
[09:59] <scion> brb guys
[09:59] <cango_> scion: thanx
[09:59] <dhq>  /lost+fount
[09:59] <dhq>  /lost+found
[09:59] <fdoving> dhq: ok, so it's your music.
[09:59] <dhq> thats it
[09:59] <dhq>  yup
[09:59] <Daskreech2> Argh
[10:00] <|GaiJin|> in your opinions... what is the best way to make a galleri on a webpage?? I want to try and avoid tables if I can....
[10:00] <fdoving> dhq: then close konqueror. and run 'sudo umount -l /media/tmp' from konsole
[10:00] <Daskreech> How do you get Spell check to work on Kopete?
[10:00] <cango_> ok i download it
[10:00] <fdoving> dhq: now run 'sudo mount /dev/hda4 /media/tmp'
[10:00] <Telroth_Plushie|> Daskreech, enable the plugin
[10:00] <office> !help
[10:00] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:00] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: can't find it.. could you check plz
[10:00] <fdoving> dhq: then open konqueror in /media/tmp again. what do you see?
[10:00] <office> !help share
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help share - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <office> !help sharing
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[10:01] <nagyv> hello! I would like to catch an avi video with my webcam using xawtv, but I always get the following error: no way to get: 384x288 15 bit TrueColor (LE). What can be missing?
[10:01] <renato> mrbrdo, system settings, hardware, mouse, icons
[10:01] <office> l
[10:01] <dhq> fdoving: _lostbyte_ /prov /dev /boot /...................
[10:01] <dhq> all the root files are ther e
[10:01] <Daskreech> Telroth_Plushie|: Then?
[10:01] <fdoving> dhq: looks like your root partition :)
[10:01] <zorglu_> nagyv: some issue with the driver of your camera
[10:01] <mrbrdo> thanks
[10:01] <office> so can anyone help me to share one folder?
[10:01] <_lostbyte_> BINGO
[10:01] <renato> your welcome
[10:01] <Telroth_Plushie|> Daskreech, then it should work.
[10:02] <fdoving> dhq: in konsole run 'nano /media/tmp/etc/fstab'
[10:02] <Telroth_Plushie|> Daskreech, let me check my install
[10:02] <cango_> i can't do this
[10:02] <fdoving> dhq: can you pastebin the contents of that file?
[10:02] <cango_> scion: i don't do this
[10:02] <nagyv> zorglu_: and any ideas how to solve it? (I tried to google, but no chance.) It's a Logitech Quickcam pro for Notebooks
[10:03] <ironfroggy> thanks for the links. i think i found what i need to help my friend, who is apparently too lazy to look it up himself! (jk, he's a near newbie)
[10:03] <Sanne> hi
[10:03] <zorglu_> nagyv: it is very specific to your camera. i got a logitech 4000 pro which works out of the box without issue
[10:03] <office> i think it is not posible to share folders in kubuntu :(
[10:03] <dhq> fdoving: _lostbyte_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24562
[10:03] <fdoving> office: install 'samba' and 'kdenetwork-fileshare' - configure filesharing with kmenu -> run command 'kcmshell fileshare' and then go rightclick on the directory you want to share in the konqueror filemanager.
[10:03] <fdoving> dhq: thanks.
[10:03] <zorglu_> nagyv: the usual process, is 1. is it supported by linux 2. why it doesnt work on my box
[10:04] <dhq> fdoving:  i should be the one saying thanx :)
[10:04] <Telroth_Plushie|> Daskreech, rightclick on text input box -> automatic spell checking to enable it
[10:04] <zorglu_> nagyv: try to read it with vlc ? launch vlc and then ctrl-a i thinkg
[10:04] <_lostbyte_> fdoving, it looks fine, right
[10:04] <scott_w|lappy> yo, how can i set kubuntu to connect to a wireless network when i log in?
[10:04] <nagyv> zorglu_: could you tell me the settings you use in xawtv's Record page?
[10:04] <scott_w|lappy> like a specific one, every time
[10:04] <Daskreech> Telroth_Plushie|: You know I swore i did that a long time ago
[10:04] <fdoving> dhq: we'll have to see about that.
[10:04] <zorglu_> nagyv: i dont use xawtv, i use vlc
[10:04] <Daskreech>  Do I have to turn it on each time or something?
[10:05] <Telroth_Plushie|> Daskreech, i'm not sure, let me check
[10:05] <cango_> Telroth_Plushie|: where can i find extracodecs
[10:05] <_lostbyte_> fdoving, i think something to do with the grub menu.
[10:05] <fdoving> _lostbyte_: no, it doesn't. look at the options on the hda4 entry.
[10:05] <zorglu_> cango_: one thing at a time, first fix the sources.list you wont be able to get anything without it
[10:05] <fdoving> _lostbyte_: noexec and nosuid etc.. that's completely missplaced.
[10:05] <Telroth_Plushie|> Daskreech, appears so.
[10:05] <fdoving> _lostbyte_: that explains the permission denied messages.
[10:06] <_lostbyte_> ohhh
[10:06] <Daskreech> Telroth_Plushie|: Ah Soo that sucks
[10:06] <scion> cango_: why
[10:06] <buz> is there a way to mount smb:// shares properly from INSIDE konqui?
[10:06] <cango_> how how how
[10:06] <dhq> fdoving: so how do i change it
[10:06] <inam> !multiverse
[10:06] <Telroth_Plushie|> Daskreech, agreed
[10:06] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:06] <fdoving> dhq: hang on, i'm editing your pastebin entry. making changes.
[10:06] <cango_> scion: can we do that the other ways
[10:06] <Daskreech> buz: tried smb:/ ?
[10:06] <scion> cango_: the email i dent to you, save the attachment
[10:06] <Telroth_Plushie|> scion, because cango_ needs the libxine-extracodecs package
[10:06] <buz> Daskreech: yes
[10:06] <Telroth_Plushie|> which is in multiverse
[10:07] <Daskreech> Ok :)
[10:07] <buz> but that doesnt MOUNT the share
[10:07] <cango_> i don't find the extracodecs
[10:07] <buz> the media players cant use smb:/ for streaming, they need proper mounts
[10:07] <mrbrdo> Buz it's the same thing i'm wondering too
[10:07] <buz> i THINK back in knoppix there was a konqui menu to do just that
[10:07] <zorglu_> buz: mount it via samba
[10:07] <mrbrdo> you could make a shell script i guess
[10:07] <buz> zorglu_: yes but that's more work :)
[10:08] <scion> cango_: the sources.list file I sent you contains the multiverse in order to get xine-extracodecs
[10:08] <mrbrdo> zorglu_: he wants to do it via Konqueror
[10:08] <mrbrdo> like me
[10:08] <octan> what tcp port does X use?
[10:08] <buz> right now i use smb4k
[10:08] <buz> thats not half bad
[10:08] <office> i can`t install samba
[10:08] <buz> but still more work than it should be
[10:08] <zorglu_> octan: 6000
[10:08] <octan> thxz
[10:08] <zorglu_> buz: mrbrdo: dunno the answer but agree it would be nice
[10:08] <scion> cango_: you need to replace your sources.list with the one i email to you with the commands in the email
[10:08] <buz> zorglu_: i believe i had that feature on some other distro (probably was knopiix)
[10:09] <Daskreech> Well I'm off
[10:09] <office> it says BREAK (install)
[10:09] <fdoving> dhq: the last line should look like this: '/dev/hda4 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1'
[10:09] <fdoving> dhq: that's the only changes you have to do.
[10:09] <zorglu_> buz: yep but synchro inter distro is a hard job
[10:09] <scion> cango_: that is very very very easy to do
[10:09] <cango_> scion: can be easyubuntu help
[10:09] <Telroth_Plushie|> office,
[10:09] <cango_> is that dangerous
[10:09] <Telroth_Plushie|> run "sudo apt-get install samba"
[10:09] <cango_> scion
[10:09] <buz> zorglu_: i DO believe this is a result of the konqui dumbing down in kubuntu
[10:09] <office> OK
[10:09] <fdoving> dhq: when you've done those changes,save and exit nano. tell me when you're done.
[10:09] <cango_> scion: is that dangerous
[10:10] <scion> cango_: no it is not
[10:10] <inam> cango_, easyubuntu cannot help till you edit your sources file
[10:10] <Telroth_Plushie|> office, is your nickname registered ?
[10:10] <office> E: Nu pot determina blocajul /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily                                            unavailable)
[10:10] <mrbrdo> buz: i'd make a shellscript in your place
[10:10] <office> no
[10:10] <office> it is not registered
[10:10] <zorglu_> office: close adept
[10:10] <buz> mrbrdo: smb4k is neater than that ;)
[10:10] <Telroth_Plushie|> office, close adept
[10:10] <office> k
[10:10] <office> i`m newbie
[10:10] <mrbrdo> Buz why?
[10:10] <buz> (besides i do know how to use smbmount, it's just more work than i want to do)
[10:10] <scott_w|lappy> any help?
[10:10] <cango_> scion: i do it
[10:10] <scion> cango_: is xine installed now?
[10:10] <scott_w|lappy> connecting to wireless on login?
[10:11] <zorglu_> !wireless
[10:11] <mrbrdo> buz: mount -t smbfs //ip/share /mnt/name
[10:11] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:11] <cango_> scion: but no comment in my konsole
[10:11] <scion> cango_: what?
[10:11] <office> i`m newbie
[10:11] <office> samba: Depinde: samba-common (= 3.0.22-1ubuntu3) dar 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 este pe cale de a fi instalat
[10:11] <office> E: Pachete deteriorate
[10:11] <Homer> was this a smart thing to do
[10:11] <office> error
[10:11] <dhq> fdoving: done
[10:11] <zorglu_> scott_w|lappy: 1. config your wireless card following the url 2. put it as initialized at startup
[10:11] <Homer> sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture wine-0.9.21_wow_i386.deb
[10:11] <cango_> scion: cango@freezer:~/Desktop$ sudo cp sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:12] <Homer> I am on amd64
[10:12] <zorglu_> office: can you translate
[10:12] <_lostbyte_> dhq, its time to boot.
[10:12] <office> oops
[10:12] <zorglu_> Homer: not a good idea :)
[10:12] <fdoving> dhq: ok run 'sudo umount -l /media/tmp'
[10:12] <Homer> well it installed! :P
[10:12] <zorglu_> Homer: it will install but not run
[10:12] <buz> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kfm-devel&m=102490614521427&w=2 THIS should be it
[10:12] <buz> now where is it
[10:12] <cango_> scion: and i see cango@freezer:
[10:12] <Homer> you sure? I have all the 32bit api installed
[10:12] <dhq> fdoving:  okies
[10:12] <cango_> scion: is that ok
[10:12] <fdoving> dhq: now you can try to reboot to kubuntu.
[10:12] <office> samba: Depends samba-common (= 3.0.22-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 will beinstaled
[10:12] <office> something like this
[10:13] <zorglu_> Homer: running 32-0bit code on 64kernel is not trivial at all
[10:13] <scion> yes this means the file has been copied into /etc/sources.list
[10:13] <scion> cango_: you are not finished yet
[10:13] <scion> cango_: 3 more commands
[10:13] <dhq> fdoving: _lostbyte_ wish me all the best and thanx alot :) ;)
[10:13] <Telroth_Plushie|> office, try apt-get update, then apt-get install samba samba-common
[10:13] <nagyv> zorglu_: vlc recognized my webcam, but I don't know how to capture its video with it. Could you give me some details? I tried the wizard, but don't know which file formats, compressions to use, and I feel myself lost.
[10:13] <fdoving> dhq: you're welcome. :)
[10:13] <cango_> scion: what can i do now
[10:14] <scion> cango_: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 33BAC1B3
[10:14] <zorglu_> nagyv: you do 'ctrl-a' and you should see your face :)
[10:14] <_lostbyte_> he is too religious.
[10:14] <cango_> scion: must i write to console
[10:14] <scott_w|lappy> zorglu_: where do i initialise it?
[10:14] <scion> cango_: yes
[10:15] <scott_w|lappy> zorglu_: i'm not too good with KDE
[10:15] <scion> cango_: all commands are done in console
[10:15] <nagyv> zorglu_: yes I have it, but have can I save my face :)
[10:15] <zorglu_> scott_w|lappy: in 'system settings -> network'
[10:15] <scott_w|lappy> makes sense ^_^
[10:15] <Homer> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[10:15] <Homer> wine works
[10:15] <cango_> scion: i see bash: cango@freezer:~/Desktop$: No such file or directory
[10:16] <Homer> --force-archeteture for the win
[10:16] <scion> cango_: type cd ~
[10:16] <scion> cango_: or else type cd /home/cango
[10:17] <zorglu_> nagyv: read the vlc doc :) it is no trivial for me to explain :) the vlc website contains a lot of example
[10:17] <cango_> scion: ok i do it
[10:17] <scion> cango_: next is: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 33BAC1B3
[10:18] <cango_> scion: ok i do
[10:18] <zorglu_> hmm it is ok to install i386 apps on amd64 ?
[10:18] <scion> cango_: is that done?
[10:18] <zorglu_> ok i misunderstood something :)
[10:18] <Homer> well wine is working
[10:18] <scion> cango_: next command
[10:18] <Homer> so I guess so
[10:18] <scion> cango_: gpg --export --armor 33BAC1B3 | sudo apt-key add -
[10:19] <Homer> bbl
[10:19] <Sanne> zorglu_: this might interest you: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191205
[10:19] <cango_> scion: i see that comment gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[10:20] <scion> cango_: that is ok
[10:20] <zorglu_> lookin
[10:20] <cango_> scion: now what must i do
[10:20] <scion> cango_: last command: sudo apt-get update
[10:21] <scion> cango_: this will update Adept
[10:21] <cango_> ok start the donload somethings
[10:21] <cango_> scion: ok start the download somethings
[10:21] <zorglu_> Sanne: ok so i was wrong saying it was not possible :) i wont read it all it is just to provide a better help here :)
[10:22] <Bernardo> hi
[10:22] <cango_> scion: is that finished
[10:22] <Sanne> zorglu_: oh, I thought you wanted to install something on amd64... but anyway, it's good to know it's possible, yes? :)
[10:22] <cango_> scion: now connect cipherfunk
[10:22] <scion> cango_: close the Adept window and open it again
[10:22] <zorglu_> Sanne: yes :)
[10:23] <kolin> question:  what is the usual amount of processes that should be running in the process table?
[10:23] <cango_> scion: but downloading not finished
[10:23] <zorglu_> kolin: no stat there. why do you ask ?
[10:23] <scion> cango_: then wait for downloading to finish
[10:23] <fdoving> kolin: i have around 100
[10:23] <dhq> fdoving: _lostbyte_thanx a million
[10:23] <scion> brb someone is knocking on my door
[10:23] <kolin> like i mean, how many should there be
[10:23] <_lostbyte_> dhq, :)
[10:23] <fdoving> kolin: depends on how many programs you've got running.
[10:24] <cango_> scion: how many minute that is finish
[10:24] <fdoving> dhq: so it worked? :)
[10:24] <dhq> fdoving: yes :)
[10:24] <kolin> cause i got 82, and that, to me, seems like a lot
[10:24] <zorglu_> i got 125 :)
[10:24] <dhq> fdoving: if funny how 2 line can scr** the whole thing
[10:24] <zorglu_> kolin: 82 is nothing to worry about :)
[10:24] <kolin> i think it's cause i am still thinking in terms of windows
[10:24] <_lostbyte_> make that one line.
[10:24] <fdoving> dhq: great, now you know you should add nosuid, noexec and noauto to the root filesystem. (the system settings applet probably just lets you do this without telling you it's a bad thing to do).
[10:25] <_lostbyte_> :
[10:25] <cango_> scion: no download from cipherfunk. because connection timed out.
[10:25] <tidiman07> hi
[10:25] <scion> cango_: okok
[10:25] <tidiman07> i have question about kernel(s)
[10:25] <kolin> it's just that some weird stuff is happening and i was wondering if it might because to many things are open
[10:25] <fdoving> dhq: editing disk and filesystem settings can be dangerous, yes. small changes can easily leave your system unusable.
[10:25] <dhq> fdoving: yes
[10:25] <dhq> k
[10:26] <scion> cango_: close the Adept window and open it again
[10:26] <cango_> scion: i ask something when i install kbuntu firewall is not install what must i do
[10:26] <_lostbyte_> fdoving, with only defaults it works.
[10:26] <scion> cango_: search for xine and hopefully you will see xine-extracodecs in the list
[10:27] <dhq> fdoving: but now my swap space is not there
[10:27] <fdoving> _lostbyte_: yes, defaults will do. for root filesystems you want 'errors=remount-ro' too.
[10:27] <scion> cango_: if you mess with the firewall (AKA iptables) your connection can be gone
[10:27] <_lostbyte_> yes, excatly.
[10:27] <fdoving> dhq: that was hda6?
[10:27] <cango_> scion: i ask something. during installation of kbuntu firewall is not install what must i do
[10:28] <scion> cango_: what about xine-extracodecs?
[10:28] <cango_> scion: helal olsun. what i write you understand
[10:28] <scion> cango_: did it work??
[10:28] <cango_> scion: downloding is not finished
[10:29] <dhq> fdoving: it was hda5
[10:29] <cango_> scion: where can i find that codecs
[10:29] <dhq> fdoving: what options should be given to swap
[10:29] <mrbrdo> does KDE have Session settings like GNOME? like, to add startup programs to the session
[10:30] <scion> cango_: in Adept by searching for xine it should be listed above xine in the search results
[10:30] <dhq> fdoving: noauto
[10:30] <_lostbyte_> dhq, simply "swap"
[10:30] <cango_> scion: i open adept. and i see adept updater and i see 2 button
[10:30] <dhq> _lostbyte_: there has to be a option
[10:31] <fdoving> dhq: does it have noauto? that's wrong. as _lostbyte_ says simply 'swap'.
[10:31] <dhq> so for the options i should write sway
[10:31] <_lostbyte_> dhq, /dev/hda5     none    swap    sw      0       0
[10:31] <fdoving> dhq: the fstab line should look like this: /dev/hda5 none swap sw 0 0
[10:31] <cango_> scion: fetch list of updates & forget changes and qt
[10:31] <cango_> scion: what can i do
[10:32] <cango_> scion: downloading is finished
[10:32] <scion> cango_: i email you a screen shot
[10:32] <Telroth_Plushie|> mrbrdo, yes
[10:32] <fdoving> scion: you know you can post screenshots at paste.ubuntu-nl.org ?
[10:33] <dhq> fdoving: _lostbyte_ its 2 am here i gotta sleep catcha yall tommorow thanx for you help buy guys
[10:33] <cango_> scion: adept is running and updating
[10:33] <mrbrdo> Telroth_Plushie|: how to add progs to startup? Visual way, not editing .kde/Autostart
[10:33] <fdoving> dhq: ok, you're welcome. good nite.
[10:33] <_lostbyte_> dhq, good night.
[10:34] <office> i shared one folder and my friend can`t use my folder because need oneuser andpassword
[10:34] <office> can anyone help me?
[10:34] <scion> fdoving: no i didn't
[10:34] <Telroth_Plushie|> mrbrdo, alt+f2 -> "kcontrol" -> kde components -> autostart programs
[10:35] <cango_> scion: are u there
[10:35] <fdoving> scion: it's a nice feature, often screenshots can explain more than 1000 words :)
[10:35] <office> Telroth_Plushie|: canyou help me?
[10:35] <mrbrdo> Telroth_Plushie|: thanks
[10:35] <office> i shared one folder and my friend can`t use my folder because need oneuser andpassword
[10:35] <cango_> scion: i understand
[10:36] <cango_> Telroth_Plushie|: thanx
[10:36] <fdoving> office: add a user on your system with his name. and use 'smbpasswd username' from konsole to set a samba password for him.
[10:36] <cango_> Telroth_Plushie|: u & scion really help me
[10:37] <office> fdoving: adduser: Only root may add a user or group to the system.
[10:37] <fdoving> office: if you want to do both things from konsole, run: 'sudo adduser'
[10:37] <scion> cango_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24566
[10:37] <cango_> Telroth_Plushie|: now my adept updater downloading
[10:37] <cango_> scii
[10:37] <cango_> scion: now my adept updater start downloading
[10:38] <scion> cango_: ok, depending on your connection speed it may take some time
[10:38] <cango_> scion: 171 package updating
[10:39] <scion> cango_: haha
[10:39] <cango_> scion: is that ur screenshot
[10:39] <scion> cango_: yes
[10:39] <cango_> scion: can i work with xgl
[10:40] <scion> cango_: i sent it in an email also because the image is bigger
[10:40] <slow-motion> n8
[10:40] <cango_> scion: i understand
[10:40] <fdoving> nite slow-motion.
[10:40] <office> fdoving:  when i use smbpasswd username it shows me one list of commands
[10:41] <cango_> scion: can i work with xgl
[10:41] <fdoving> office: 'smbpasswd hisusername' repalce hisusername with the name you gave his user in adduser.
[10:41] <scion> cango_: what do you mean? i do not understand!
[10:42] <office> fdoving:
[10:42] <office> When run by root:
[10:42] <office>     smbpasswd [options]  [username] 
[10:42] <fdoving> office: hang on.. maybe you have to use 'sudo smbpasswd -a username'
[10:42] <knithx> Hi, I have a AMD64 processor, but Kubuntu 32
[10:42] <knithx> I want to install the best kernel for me
[10:42] <knithx> would it be (through apt) linux-k7?
[10:43] <cango_> scion
[10:43] <fdoving> knithx: probably the k7, yes.
[10:43] <office> fdoving: thanksit is working now
[10:44] <tibbar> hello I R ulber noob wil some1 hlp me pls
[10:44] <scion> yes
[10:44] <cango_> scion: i said that kubuntu work with xgl
[10:44] <tibbar> scion you sure?
[10:44] <fdoving> office: great, you might experience that the password expires after some time. then you'll have to reset it with 'sudo smbpasswd username'
[10:44] <scion> tibbar: an i sure of what?
[10:44] <tibbar> !ubotu
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[10:45] <tibbar> can you hlp em pls
[10:45] <office> OK
[10:45] <tibbar> me
[10:45] <fdoving> office: when the password expires it will simply not let you login. I've heard people experiencing this after some time. Just be aware, might be usefull to put it in a notes.txt file :)
[10:45] <cango_> scion: do u understand me
[10:45] <scion> cango_: yes but you need a powerful computer/ graphics card to do xgl
[10:45] <cango_> scion: my pc is a laptop
[10:46] <nimnrod> how safe is CrossOver for Linux???
[10:46] <scion> cango_: then forget about it!
[10:46] <cango_> scion: and my graphic card is intel
[10:47] <scion> cango_: you can have transparent windows and stuff but a 3D desktop is out of the question on a laptop!
[10:47] <tibbar> did you help me earlier on?
[10:47] <tibbar> abattoir: did you help me earlier on?
[10:48] <Hawkwind> tibbar: If you have a question, just ask
[10:48] <cango_> scion: 1.7 centrino & 256 mb ram
[10:48] <tibbar> how do you make the text red :P
[10:48] <scion> cango_: hehe
[10:48] <cango_> nehe
[10:48] <scion> cango_: AMD with 2GB RAM
[10:48] <Hawkwind> tibbar: That happens when someone uses your nick in the senetence
[10:48] <Homer> is there an actual performence difference between amd64 and x86?
[10:48] <cango_> hmmm powerful
[10:48] <tibbar> ok what ever you say
[10:49] <cango_> scion: hmmm powerfulmy
[10:49] <lascar> yesterday I installed Dapper from the live cd, and I haven't been able to boot into it ever since because Kubuntu hangs whenever it gets to bluetooth recognition, which is odd to me because though my mb supports it, I have no bluetooth devices.  Any help?
[10:49] <scion> Homer: only if you have all 64bit programs and 64bit drivers for your hardware
[10:49] <tibbar> my brother downloaded ati drivers for me and wine
[10:49] <Homer> well seeing how f**king hard it is to install anything 32-bit, then I'd assume I do
[10:49] <scion> hehe
[10:50] <cango_> scion: my graphic card is intel i810 85x
[10:50] <Homer> yeah
[10:50] <Homer> Wine dies from "Bad malloc calls"
[10:50] <Homer> I'm guessing that has something to do with 32-bit malloc
[10:50] <cango_> scion: i am waiting
[10:51] <tibbar> Hawkwind I have a ati radeon x700 and I can play some linux opengl games fine, but when I try to emulate things it laggs or gives me erros
[10:51] <lascar> cango_: follow the channel rules and be patient
[10:51] <tibbar> errors
[10:51] <scion> cango_: Radeon X1950
[10:51] <scion> cango_: http://www.trustedreviews.com/images/article/inline/3337-1.jpg
[10:52] <Homer> yeah so I'd recommend 32-bit ubuntu for 64-bit systems
[10:52] <Homer> I'm not switching cause I'm lazy tho
[10:52] <scion> a beast of a graphics card
[10:52] <Homer> you graphics card?
[10:52] <Homer> your*
[10:53] <scion> hehe
[10:53] <cango_> scion: i want to use pardus but i can see the wireless network but i dont use firefox
[10:53] <scion> yes mine
[10:53] <nimnrod> what applications are out there that make possible run windows programs in linux
[10:53] <Homer> !wine
[10:53] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:53] <cango_> scion: are u rich or performance beast
[10:53] <tibbar> does some1 know how I can test my wine, cause I have tried to emulate 2 games a both did not work
[10:54] <jpiccolo_> i upgraded my java and now azuureus wont work
[10:54] <Homer> !ktorrent
[10:54] <Homer> lol
[10:54] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2-0ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 738 kB, installed size 2964 kB
[10:54] <office> fdoving: can i another question?
[10:54] <scion> my job is well paid and i am also a performance beast
[10:54] <scion> lol
[10:54] <lascar> !bluetooth
[10:54] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[10:55] <tibbar> someone help pls
[10:55] <office> fdoving: how can i give him write access on my shared folder?
[10:55] <Homer> uh wine doesn't work most of time on 3d games
[10:55] <nimnrod> c an i install Shockwave Player with Wine?
[10:55] <lascar> nimnrod: you can with Crossover
[10:55] <nimnrod> CrossOver isnt free
[10:55] <cango_> scion: can i change language to turkish my kubuntu
[10:55] <scion> emmm
[10:56] <tibbar> my brother can emulate fine I think it might be somthing to do with ati drivers not sure
[10:56] <cango_> hehe
[10:56] <scion> cango_: yes you can
[10:56] <lascar> nimnrod: It can be ;), try bittorent
[10:56] <Homer> beats me, I can't can't even get ati drivers to hardware accelerate linux apps
[10:56] <cango_> scion: what must i do
[10:56] <scion> cango_: go to system settings in the menu
[10:56] <Homer> let alone windows games
[10:57] <Homer> heh
[10:57] <cango_> ok
[10:57] <snooplsm> hey can i get some special attention?
[10:57] <lascar> even under Cedega?
[10:57] <snooplsm> fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0_07-nb-5_0-linux-ml.bin
[10:57] <scion> cango_: on the top row select Regional & Accessibility
[10:57] <snooplsm> yields this error: No matching plug-in was found
[10:57] <Homer> no opengl acceraltion doesn't seem to work
[10:57] <cango_> ok
[10:57] <Homer> opengl works, but at like 3fps on Tux Racer :p
[10:57] <tibbar> I can at least play supertux on opengl :)
[10:58] <snooplsm> so any help?
[10:58] <scion> cango_: then in the menu on the left there is country/region & Language
[10:58] <cango_> scion: i can't see Turkish subselect
[10:58] <lascar> yesterday I installed Dapper from the live cd, and I haven't been able to boot into it ever since because Kubuntu hangs whenever it gets to bluetooth recognition, which is odd to me because though my mb supports it, I have no bluetooth devices.  Any help?
[10:58] <Homer> whats a good HTML editor for KDE
[10:59] <thunderstorm> hi@all
[10:59] <tibbar> also when I go to winecfg to the audio tab it crashes
[10:59] <scion> cango_: click on the default drop down list and it is under Europe/Southern
[10:59] <cango_> scion: ok
[10:59] <Sanne> Homer: some people like quanta (I don't use it myself, though)
[10:59] <thunderstorm> somewhere here speaks german?
[10:59] <Sanne> thunderstorm: #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de
[11:00] <thunderstorm> yeah, right... thanx ;)
[11:00] <snooplsm> hey whats up
[11:00] <Sanne> :)
[11:00] <cango_> scion: now i restart for this
[11:01] <office> So can anyone help me to give write acces one shared folder?
[11:01] <tibbar> does someone here have ati?
[11:01] <tony_> Hello, dose anyone got KXDOCKER for ubuntu 64 bit ??
[11:01] <scion> cango_: you need to wait for adept to stop first, then get libxine-extracodecs first!
[11:01] <cango_> scion: how
[11:01] <tony_>  :)
[11:01] <scion> cango_: the next time you turn on your laptop it will be in turkish
[11:02] <scion> du hast
[11:02] <tibbar> du bist der tisch
[11:02] <scion> tibbar: i have ati
[11:02] <office> scion: can you tell me how o give write acces one shared folder?
[11:02] <tibbar> scoin you have ati right?
[11:02] <cango_> scion: when i stop downloading,after restarting is continue
[11:02] <tibbar> ok
[11:03] <tibbar> do you have wine
[11:03] <scion> tibbar: change permissions of that folder using chmod command
[11:03] <tony_> Dose anyone have a KXDOCKER for kubuntu 64 ??? thanks
[11:03] <tibbar> office asked
[11:03] <scion> tibbar: like sudo chmod 0777 foldername here
[11:04] <kolin> what is the best music player for kubuntu
[11:04] <tibbar> scion its office that asked
[11:04] <kolin> i don't know how i feel about this amarok
[11:04] <office> scion: chmod?
[11:04] <cango_> scion: you said "you need to wait for adept to stop first, then get libxine-extracodecs first!" adept can do it? or i do it
[11:05] <scion> cango_: just continue using laptop in english until Adept is finished
[11:05] <scion> cango_: when adept finished updating search for libxine-extracodecs and request install
[11:05] <tibbar> scion have you emulated games on kubuntu?
[11:06] <cango_> you need to wait for adept to stop first, then get libxine-extracodecs first!
[11:06] <cango_> scion: you said "you need to wait for adept to stop first, then get libxine-extracodecs first!" adept can do it? or i do it
[11:06] <scion> office: yes chmod is the command to change file/ folder permissions
[11:06] <cango_> scion: can i play street fighter ex turbo 2 plus
[11:06] <office> scion: can you give me an example?
[11:06] <scion> cango_: adept to stop first, get libxine-extracodecs second :)
[11:06] <office> i have one folder: /home/Desktop/firma/
[11:06] <scion> office: okok
[11:07] <cango_> scion: can i play street fighter ex turbo 2 plus with an emulator like zinc
[11:07] <scion> sudo chmod 0777 /media/sharedfolder
[11:07] <scion> or
[11:07] <scion> sudo chmod 0755 /media/hda2/scionsfolder/
[11:08] <scion> the number gives the different permissions
[11:08] <office> i see
[11:08] <office> thx
[11:08] <office> so, now my friend will meable to write something on my shared folder?
[11:08] <tibbar> scoin have you emulated a 3d game with wine?
[11:09] <jpiccolo_> when i go to my azureus dir and run it, it works fine, but if i make a icon for it. it wont work
[11:09] <cango_> scion: i ask my last question? how can i install linux programs
[11:09] <scion> office: look at the bottom of this page for what different numbers mean - http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/WS-19990114-EM01.htm
[11:09] <tony_> what is the best PHP IDE for linux ( free or commerical ) ??
[11:09] <jpiccolo_> vi
[11:09] <scion> cango_: using Adept
[11:10] <scion> cango_: the whole point of updating your sources..list was to get a larger collection of packages to search with
[11:11] <tibbar> scoin: have you emulated a 3d game with wine?
[11:11] <scion> office: here as well http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7-Manual/getting-started-guide/s1-navigating-chmodnum.html
[11:11] <scion> tibbar: i play counter strike, unreal tournament and quake3 using wine
[11:12] <office> scion:  he is getting this message: Cannot create or replace New Foler: Access is denied Make sure the disk is not full or write protected and that the file is not curently in use
[11:12] <tibbar> scoin: cool have you ever tried warcraft3?
[11:12] <scion> well quake 3 is actually a linux .run file so it is native to linux
[11:12] <Sanne> scion: ut has also a native linux client
[11:12] <tibbar> UT 2 isnt it???
[11:13] <scion> tibbar: from my windows days years ago when i heard warcraft was full of spyware i just never bothered, i like first person shooters instead of god games, sorry!
[11:13] <tibbar> scoin: when I emulate warcraft 3 it starts loding and then it just quits
[11:13] <cango_> scion: in my adept manager i open extracodecs status not installed but requested install
[11:14] <scion> Sanne: I know, it was from when I was learning how to use wine!!
[11:14] <scion> cango_: good stuff
[11:14] <tibbar> scoin: fps_dough
[11:14] <Sanne> scion: ah, I really should be paying more attention and backscroll , sorry! :)
[11:14] <scion> hehe
[11:14] <cango_> scion: you teach me linux
[11:15] <scion> cango_: you pay me
[11:15] <scion> lmao!!
[11:15] <cango_> scion: please
[11:15] <cango_> scion: hmmmmm
[11:15] <tibbar> scoin:its my turn :(
[11:16] <scion> cango_: it is very time consuming, i am also working, doing web development in my spare time and helping out with a project on sourceforge
[11:16] <cango> scion: i.m thinkin'
[11:16] <scion> cango_: i be very busy but when i am on this channel i will help anyone if i can
[11:16] <sinpath> ok i need help with my ripper!!
[11:16] <tibbar> scoin: hl2 cool you emulate that 2?
[11:17] <Telroth_Plushie|> question, i have a /boot/message file, but when i added the gfxmenu (hd2,0)/boot/message, it still doesn't load it. any help ?
[11:17] <cango_> scion: its not important i'm just jokin'
[11:17] <scion> tibbar: no i have that installed on on my sisters windows box!
[11:17] <tibbar> scoin: what ati drivers you using?
[11:17] <scion> cango_: i was joking about you paying me
[11:17] <tibbar> scoin: oh lol
[11:17] <cango_> scion: how can i lern it
[11:17] <cango_> scion: how can i learn it
[11:17] <thev> can someone help me out with sound?  It's not working at all...
[11:18] <scion> cango_: i read
[11:19] <scion> cango_: buy a book or read a few tutorials on the internet, it takes alot of time
[11:20] <tibbar> scoin: what ati drivers you using?
[11:20] <scion> tibbar: its scion
[11:20] <scion> and i use driver version 8.29.6
[11:20] <tibbar> scion: lol it was on my clipbord
[11:20] <scion> cango_: i am still learning new stuff every day
[11:21] <main2> thev: sup?
[11:21] <cango__> scion: how can i learn my graphic card support xgl
[11:22] <main2> thev: please come and join #alsa
[11:22] <scion> cango_: http://madpenguin.org/cms/
[11:22] <thev> main2 - just installed Kubuntu, no sound.  I have no clue what to even look for
[11:22] <tibbar> scion: when I try to emulate anything it just exits or dosn't work
[11:22] <scion> cango__: this is a good place to learn linux - http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/
[11:22] <main2> first of all, can you give me an indication of how much you think you know from your system?
[11:22] <main2> so i can try to predict a number of things :P
[11:22] <cango__> scion: how can i learn my graphic card support xgl
[11:23] <main2> thev: on a scale from 0 to 10
[11:23] <scion> tibbar: yeah wine and windows programs on linux almost turned me into an alcoholic
[11:23] <main2> thev: start 'kmix' and doubleclick on the speaker in your systray
[11:23] <scion> tibbar: so nasty
[11:23] <main2> to see if anything is muted
[11:23] <scion> hello TheGateKeeper
[11:23] <sinpath> help my cd ripper wont save files!
[11:23] <cango__> scion: how can i learn my graphic card support xgl
[11:24] <TheGateKeeper> hiya scion
[11:24] <thev> main2 - doesn't appear so
[11:24] <tibbar> scion: The problem is my brother has nice nvidia and it took him a weed to install Linux a emulate most games, but he has no idea whats wrong with mine thats why im here
[11:24] <scion> cango__: why you want that?
[11:25] <main2> thev: please in #alsa
[11:25] <main2> thev:  lets talk there, is more convenient
[11:26] <cango__> scion: i think it's fantastic
[11:26] <sinpath> can anyone help me with my r5ipper problem?
[11:26] <scion> tibbar: i got most of my help from the how to's here - http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[11:27] <scion> cango__: hehe, but it will probably crash your x server on your laptop
[11:27] <scion> brb - another cigarette
[11:27] <tibbar> the problem is I don't know what the problem is, it can be wine my sound or my ati drivers and I don't know
[11:28] <cango__> scion: which one is better ubuntu or KUBUNTU? or Which is the difference
[11:28] <TheGateKeeper> anyone use ekiga?
[11:29] <TheGateKeeper> cango__: they are the same just use a different desktop
[11:29] <cango__> scion: i ask which one gnome or kde
[11:29] <scion> cango__: ubuntu comes with Gnome, kubuntu comes with KDE
[11:30] <scion> i like KDE better, think it looks alot nicer but there is a good fan club for both
[11:30] <cango__> scion: i said that can gnome be better than kde
[11:31] <scion> i don't know, i do not like gnome but i hear it is slower then KDE
[11:31] <al_maverick> for certain things, as well as kde can be better in other things
[11:31] <scion> be right back i need 5 minutes away from PC
[11:31] <clemyeats> gnome and kde are both great, I tend to fee more at home in KDE, but Gnome's been looking really good lately.
[11:31] <fdoving> cango__: you ask in #kubuntu which is a KDE users channel. Most of us prefer KDE and Kubuntu. If you ask in #ubuntu most users will prefer GNOME.
[11:31] <tibbar> KDE is the best
[11:32] <al_maverick> anybode here used unace to uncompress .ace files?
[11:32] <tibbar> does someone know where I can get help with my wine and ati drivers for kubuntu?
[11:32] <scion> al_maverick: try 7zip
[11:33] <fdoving> al_maverick: you have problems?
[11:33] <al_maverick> yeah, trying to uncompress a .ace file, but i get an error
[11:33] <cango__> scion: can i restart after installation codecs
[11:33] <fdoving> al_maverick: what error?
[11:33] <al_maverick> no luck browsing the forums or in google
[11:33] <al_maverick> Error: No such archive found:
[11:34] <al_maverick>   /home/al/tmp/ghost.ace
[11:34] <tibbar> If you want the (scion:) infront of your text do you have to type it in the whole time?
[11:34] <fdoving> al_maverick: what is the command you're using? and what is the archive name?
[11:34] <al_maverick> the file name is right that one
[11:34] <al_maverick> ./unace x ghost.ace
[11:34] <al_maverick> unace is in the same folder
[11:35] <al_maverick> im using 2.5 from winace.com
[11:35] <clemyeats> tibbar: start typing the name then TAB. Completion.. in most IRC clients.
[11:35] <fdoving> al_maverick: i suggest installing unace from the adept archives.
[11:35] <al_maverick> i tried that, but its too old. it says it doesnt recognize the compression format
[11:36] <fdoving> al_maverick: ah.
[11:36] <fdoving> al_maverick: does ./unace work? without any arguments?
[11:37] <al_maverick> yep, it brings up the help screen
[11:37] <tibbar> !ubotu
[11:37] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:37] <fdoving> al_maverick: good.
[11:38] <al_maverick> it looks like its working ok, thought its the only .ace file i got, so i really dont know
[11:38] <asky> !ubotu
[11:38] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:38] <asky> :)
[11:38] <tibbar> !ktorrent
[11:38] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2-0ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 738 kB, installed size 2964 kB
[11:38] <fdoving> al_maverick: try ./unace x /home/al/tmp/ghost.ace
[11:38] <al_maverick> ill try again :)
[11:39] <al_maverick> same error
[11:39] <tibbar> gonmefreak why are you in a kde channel?
[11:39] <Flosoft> hey
[11:39] <al_maverick> Error: No such archive found:
[11:40] <Flosoft> what package do I need for Java Support in Konqueror / Firefox?
[11:40] <tibbar> !tell gnomefreak ktorrent
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell gnomefreak ktorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <scion> cango__: yeah if you want
[11:40] <fdoving> !java > flosoft
[11:40] <scion> tibbar: type sc and then press tab
[11:40] <tibbar> scion: cool
[11:41] <cango> scion: i still dont play my mp3s
[11:41] <tibbar> scion: thats a bit faster
[11:41] <scion> cango: the extracodecs helps Amarok to play mp3
[11:42] <cango> scion: i install codec
[11:42] <cango> restart but i dont listen
[11:42] <Flosoft> thx
[11:42] <al_maverick> fdoving: i even downloaded v2.2, to try if it could be an error in the last version, but it was the same
[11:43] <cango> amarok open and immediately closed with this comment"playlist finished"
[11:43] <fdoving> al_maverick: sounds strange.
[11:44] <scion> cango: do you want help playing mp3?
[11:44] <super_noobs> hey..how can i check mp3 to know if it is ok?
[11:45] <cango> scion: ok i fis
[11:45] <cango> scion: ok i finish HIM like Sub-Zero
[11:45] <scion> cango: what does "fis" mean?
[11:45] <cango> scion: now my mp3s playin'
[11:46] <cango> scion: i write it wrongly
[11:46] <super_noobs> hey ... how can i convert wma to mp3?
[11:46] <scion> that is because you installed libxine-extracodecs
[11:46] <Flosoft> !java
[11:46] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[11:46] <super_noobs> !wma
[11:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:46] <al_maverick> fdoving: i tried to run it with t, to check the file integrity, but same error
[11:46] <cango> scion: how can i play midis?
[11:47] <scion> cango: not sure, never needed to
, u can use trimid
[11:47] <cango> scion: can amarok play the files
[11:48] <scion> cango: maybe
[11:48] <cango> scion: this amarok hardly for me
[11:48] <cango> scion: in suse amarok is very simple
[11:50] <scion> cango: suse amarok? amarok is a KDE application, it works the same way on all distrobutions with KDE
[11:50] <cango> suse with kde
[11:50] <cango> scion: suse 9.1 with KDE
[11:51] <scion> amarok on kubuntu and amarok on suse are the same thing
[11:51] <scion> amarok is the best music player ever!! totally rocks!
[11:51] <fdoving> al_maverick: i don't have any good suggestions, sorry.
[11:51] <al_maverick> fdoving: no problem. i know its weird
[11:53] <master_blaster> question: i've setup rsync task and setup ssh keys (under my regular user account, not su)... will cron.daily run this as root or as my regular user... when i sudo <script> it prompts for password once again
[11:54] <cango> scion: how can i install programs like xmms
[11:55] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install xmms
[11:55] <Dr_willis> or fire up the package manager and search for them and install them
[11:55] <scion> or in Adept search for XMMS
[11:56] <scion> cango: most programs can be installed using Adept
[11:56] <heinkel_111> anyone familiar with sendmail MTA's here?
[11:56] <cango> scion: for example limewire
[11:57] <scion> cango: limewire is horrible
[11:57] <heinkel_111> my messages sent keep getting rejected due to sender adress domain is localhost.localdomain
[11:57] <scion> cango: i am a bit torrent fan
[11:57] <heinkel_111> how can i make sendmail add correct domain to mail sent?
[11:58] <cango> scion: hey i can see xgl from adept
[11:58] <scion> cango: for limewire you need to install it manually
[11:58] <cango> scion: can i use xgl
[11:59] <niroxx> does anyone of you know, how to change the textcolor in the controlline of kde ?
[11:59] <cango> i really love it
[11:59] <fdoving> heinkel_111: not too familiar with sendmail, but i strongly recommend postfix if you can choose what MTA to use.
[11:59] <scion> cango: do it if you want but your laptop might crash
[12:00] <cango> scion: i said that if x server down can i use safe mode
[12:00] <scion> cango: i would not recommend it, a normal desktop is fine
[12:00] <scion> cango: do it if you want
[12:01] <niroxx> how can i change the textcolor of the open programs in the statusbar of kde ? screenshot : http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4023/bildschirmphoto7xx1.jpg
[12:01] <cango> scion: 1.7 centrino 64MB grap card, 256 mb ram
[12:01] <scion> cango: disclaimer - if smoke comes out of your laptop its not my problem
[12:01] <sync00> when I run ./configure on a certain installation, i get the following error: "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"
[12:01] <cango> scion: you scared me
[12:02] <sync00> how do I get the X includes?
[12:02] <scion> 64mb card?? don't bother, if it runs it will be very very slow
[12:03] <cango> scion: where can i find kde themes
[12:03] <heinkel_111> sync00: i think you need the developer packages
[12:03] <heinkel_111> not 100% sure
[12:03] <lupine_85> scion: bit of a sweeping statement there ;). Would likely work, assuming it's an AIGLX setup
[12:03] <scion> cango in Adept
[12:03] <lupine_85> however, quinn's repos are broken atm
[12:03] <lupine_85> #ubuntu-xgl for more
[12:04] <fdoving> sync00: as heinkel_111 says, you need xorg-dev.
[12:04] <scion> type kde and scroll down through the list until you see themes, somewhere in the middle
[12:04] <cango> scion: i said that can be a codec for midis
[12:04] <sync00> alright, thanks heinkel_111 and fdoving :)
[12:05] <scion> cango: or take a look at http://www.kde-look.org - they have many themes/icons/wallpapers
[12:05] <Sanne> sync00: you can try libx11-dev
[12:05] <cango> scion: ok
[12:05] <scion> cango: type midi into Adept
[12:06] <scion> cango: is your kubuntu now in turkish?
[12:06] <cango> scion: no
[12:07] <cango> scion: in language section only english
[12:07] <scion> cango: i take screenshot and email to you
[12:08] <cango> scion: ok
[12:09] <octan> hi all
[12:09] <octan> anyone got little to do?
[12:09] <octan> can someone nmap me? i cant do it myself B|coz i have ports open on my lan that are closed to internet
[12:09] <kolin> is there any mp3 player for linux that's like foobar2000
[12:09] <kolin> or as customizable