=== kwah [n=kwah@a123103.upc-a.chello.nl] has left #ubuntu-bugs ["Leaving"] === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:15] New bug: #61947 in swscanner (universe) "Lower lefthand frame moves when displaying channel 11" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61947 [12:16] bug 61895 [12:16] Malone bug 61895 in flashplugin-nonfree "Error with latest updated flashplugin-nonfree" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61895 [12:18] Oh no, not again. [12:20] New bug: #61948 in swscanner (universe) "Various English mistakes as listed" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61948 [12:21] oh it's ok, I really enjoy the clicky-click exercise === boricua [n=illustre@cpe-24-161-35-162.hvc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === philwyett [n=philip@80-195-142-67.cable.ubr02.wiga.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:25] New bug: #61949 in Ubuntu "Please sync treeviewx 0.5.1-1 from Debian Sid (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61949 === nictuku [n=yves@ubuntu/member/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Burgwork [n=corey@d64-180-214-139.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === aevaughn [n=aevaughn@dhcp-194-19.resnet.uab.edu] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:47] how can i make backtraces in edgy? gdb closes in edgy when the application closed and a window program crash detected appears. === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:52] ping anyone? === pirast_ is now known as pirast [12:56] New bug: #61950 in terminatorx (universe) "TerminatorX has 2 icons in GNOME's Sound & Video menu" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61950 === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [01:01] New bug: #61951 in xserver-xorg-driver-i810 (main) "965/x3000 video not supported" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61951 [01:05] New bug: #61952 in terminatorx (universe) "Closing dialog box has spelling mistake "loose" rather than "lose"" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61952 === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [01:10] New bug: #61953 in Ubuntu "How to freeze GNOME in simple steps." [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61953 [01:11] :p [01:15] New bug: #61954 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "7.0.68~ubuntu2~dapper1: fix from #61404 fails without meaningful feedback" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61954 === dsas [n=dean@host-84-9-169-8.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [01:24] crimsun: ^ one for you :-) [01:24] (already commented) [01:25] New bug: #61956 in pathological (universe) "Pathological: No instructions provided, but some are hidden in /usr/share/doc " [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61956 [01:26] New bug: #61955 in Ubuntu "[Sync Request] sylpheed-claws-gtk2-extra-plugins 2.5.0~rc3-1 from Debian unstable (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61955 === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [01:30] crimsun: woha! you're on fire today mate :-) === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [01:44] Greetings.. what is the approach for a bug like: 61945 [01:45] !bug 61945 [01:45] Malone bug 61945 in cohoba "A programming error has been detected" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61945 [01:45] Sorry, I don't know anything about bug 61945 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [01:51] Hould I ask for more information? [01:51] s/Hould/Should [01:55] I guess in the forums, or opening a support request on launchpad [01:55] but the but will go by unnoticed. [01:55] but the bug* [01:55] why will the bug go by unnoticed? [01:56] the team that maintain cohaba are pretty new and have been busy packaging a lot of cohaba related things I believe. [01:56] the "telepathy" team. [01:56] finalbeta: I'm looking to do be useful.. just looking for duplicates at the moment. [01:56] dsas: quite right. [01:57] Ok, good, sry if I offended. [01:57] finalbeta: No, you've not offended :), just don't want to disilliusion people. [01:58] pschulz01: You could check the upstream bugtracker for similar tracebacks [01:58] finalbeta: no no no all's cool. It's morning here and I have a couple of hours to 'make a differnence'. [01:59] Where would the upstream bug tracker be? Gnome? Thar are using Darcs [02:02] dsas: Contacting the developers in IRC. [02:03] There is actually one of my bugs I hope to see triaged, totem can no longer play avi/divx from shares or the internet, they need to be downloaded locally first. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/61147 [02:03] Malone bug 61147 in Ubuntu "edgy: totem can no longer stream from samba share" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] [02:04] pschulz01: It may be on bugs.freedesktop.org [02:04] it only mentions shares, but the problem is the same when you try to play a file from a site [02:09] finalbeta: Ok, the reason why that hasn't been picked up is that it was lodged against "ubuntu" and not a particular package. [02:10] dsas, ok, I was not sure what to pick when I posted it. [02:10] finalbeta: If things aren't logged against a particular package they tend to get lost down the back of the sofa. [02:11] finalbeta: that's ok, feel free to hop on here and ask in future :) [02:11] Tnx for that tip. [02:11] dsas: No bugs in bugs.freedesktop.org for cohoba. [02:12] I'll sent the bug to the developers mailing list. [02:12] finalbeta: If you get the problem when trying to connect to a website too, it's probably worth adding a comment or updating the bug description to say so. [02:13] dsas, can you change the package to totem-gstreamer then? [02:15] finalbeta: Somewhat confusingly the bug tracker only cares about "source packages", totem-gstreamer (and totem-xine) are binary packages that are created from the totem source package. [02:16] finalbeta: So totem is the correct package now, though possibly it's worth mentioning that you're using the gstreamer version in the bug report. [02:17] pschulz01: Can you reproduce the problem? [02:18] dsas: I'm not familar with the software. I'm getting some traction in the IRC channel.. [02:18] pschulz01: Often the bug report isn't worth much to the developers, unless you have more details - such as what the person was doing when it crashed. [02:19] pschulz01: Ok fair enough, if the upstream developers want the bug anyway... they know better than I about their software :) [02:19] dsas: That's the impression I'm getting.. :-) === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [02:27] dsas: How are my comments - see 61945 [02:28] bug 61945 [02:28] Malone bug 61945 in cohoba "A programming error has been detected" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61945 [02:30] pschulz01: I'm not familiar with the package, but yes, hopefully you have tracked down enough detail to help one of the telepathy maintainers track down this "connection manager" thing. [02:30] dsas: Thanks.. next one.. === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D8B75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === cowbud [n=Jamius@p54BD33E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [03:00] so I have a question there is a bug I am looking at that I have confirmed do I just set the status to confirmed then or what? [03:01] yes === pufuwozu [n=brian@CPE-149-167-175-246.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [03:03] is there a way to look at just edgy bugs? [03:03] not to my knowledge === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [03:05] New bug: #61959 in Ubuntu "Edgy Knot-3 kernel freezes if PDC20579 is present" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61959 === dsas [n=dean@host-84-9-169-8.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Nafallo > sleep === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === bronson [n=bronson@c-71-198-75-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [03:12] Boo === noppe [n=Jamius@p54BD3E1C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === yuriy [n=yuriy@dhcp-129-64-153-72.dorm.brandeis.edu] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [03:35] New bug: #61960 in peacock (universe) "[Edgy] peacock crashes when opening new project" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61960 [03:40] New bug: #61963 in wacom-tools (main) "Wacom pointer abruptly shifts, pseudo-regularly, while drawing. (Intuos 2 6x8)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61963 === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [03:55] New bug: #61965 in Ubuntu "[xubuntu knot3] vmware can't install xubuntu: missing modules" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61965 === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [04:01] New bug: #61966 in nautilus (main) "Usability: cannot change volume names" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61966 === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [04:15] New bug: #61967 in kdebase (main) "Browser detect for Konqueror doesn't display as Edgy" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61967 [04:26] New bug: #61968 in Ubuntu "Sept 19 updates break suspend on notebook" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61968 === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === CarlFK [n=carl@c-24-13-53-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [04:51] New bug: #61969 in gnome-schedule (universe) "Please sync gnome-schedule (universe) from Debian unstable" [Untriaged,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61969 === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D8B75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [05:00] New bug: #61970 in yum (universe) "[Sync Request] yum 2.4.0-3.1" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61970 [05:05] New bug: #61971 in wireshark (universe) "Please review merge of wireshark" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61971 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Kamping_Kaiser drats freeze - now i cant ask for pcmanfm :( [05:11] oh, hi Hobbsee [05:11] hey dam [05:11] er, hey Kamping_Kaiser [05:11] hehe [05:11] allo :) === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [05:20] New bug: #61972 in amarok (main) "Ver 1.4.3 / KDE 3.5.4 - Will not play MP3 files, nor install MP3 Support, when chosen. " [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61972 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === theCore [n=alex@modemcable106.200-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [05:40] New bug: #61973 in gparted (main) "GParted sees only one disk" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61973 === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === grumpymole [n=warren@c220-237-175-49.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [05:55] New bug: #61974 in cuetools (universe) "[Sync Request] cuetools 1.3.1-1" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61974 === nictuku [i=nictuku@ubuntu/member/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [06:17] do you know any issue with network interfaces not coming up after boot ? [06:36] New bug: #61975 in Ubuntu "[edgy] after upgrade, network won't come up" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61975 [06:38] nictuku: please attach more info (hardware, which kernel, etc.) to the bug === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [06:41] New bug: #61976 in rtfm (universe) "Please sync rtfm 2.0.3-1.1 (universe) from Debian Sid (main)" [Untriaged,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61976 [06:43] crimsun, doing it === nictuku [i=nictuku@ubuntu/member/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [07:00] New bug: #61977 in apache2 (main) "docs not installed" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61977 [07:02] night === nictuku [i=nictuku@ubuntu/member/nictuku] has left #ubuntu-bugs [] === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-60-250.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === kristog [n=ballio@energ63.energ.polimi.it] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [07:30] New bug: #61978 in tulip (universe) "[Sync Request] tulip 2.0.5-2" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61978 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [07:40] New bug: #61979 in xserver-xorg-video-i810 (main) "[Regression] 2.6.17-8-generic makes X crash if DRI is enabled in xorg.conf" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61979 === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === kagou [n=kagou@84.5.173.178] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === rpedro__ [n=rpedro@87-196-68-165.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:05] New bug: #61980 in ubiquity (main) "Installation Ubuntu edgy K3 in Asus W1N notebook" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61980 === compotatoj [n=jeff@cpe-75-80-136-188.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:06] Other than submitting bugs, is there anything that a non-developer can do to help with bugs? [09:07] nevermind. [09:07] i'm reading something on the site that tells me. === pradeep_ [n=pradeep@59.92.35.226] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:16] compotatoj: you can search for dupes [09:20] New bug: #61981 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "toshiba_acpi: ktoshkeyd initialisation failed" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61981 [09:23] compotatoj: wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs [09:24] Why is dapper-backports not on packages.ubuntu.com? [09:25] elmargol: because the person that runs it hasn't done it yet [09:26] do you think i should mail him? [09:27] absolutely === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:30] New bug: #61982 in tomboy (main) "weird panel icon since update" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61982 === Czubek [n=Damian@82.160.179.10] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === compotatoj [n=jeff@cpe-75-80-136-188.san.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-bugs [] [09:55] New bug: #61983 in tangerine-icon-theme (main) "GTK default icons used in several places" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61983 [09:55] New bug: #61984 in gettext (main) "dd segmentation fault with gettext 0.14 and specific locale " [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61984 === bronson [n=bronson@c-71-198-75-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [10:15] New bug: #61986 in gaim (main) "tango icon set" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61986 [10:20] New bug: #61987 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Kernel boot failure with Kubuntu knot3 on amd64+nforce4+sata2" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61987 [10:25] New bug: #61988 in gamin (main) "gam_server crashed on ifdown eth0" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61988 [10:25] New bug: #61989 in dhcp3 (main) "Message too long" [Untriaged,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61989 [10:36] New bug: #61990 in Ubuntu "( Edgy ) zd1211 not working anymore" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61990 [10:36] New bug: #61991 in firefox (main) "Firefiox Live Bookmark Popup is slow" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61991 === thekorn [n=markus@a81-14-207-150.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [10:47] New bug: #61992 in nautilus (main) "should use a background by default" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61992 === pufuwozu [n=brian@CPE-149-167-175-246.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [11:10] New bug: #61993 in gdm (main) "Cannot hibernate from GDM" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61993 === geser [n=michael@dialin105083.justdsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [11:12] why would you want to hibernate from gdm?? o_0 :S [11:13] Kamping_Kaiser: why not? [11:13] elmargol, its just as easy to shut down, and as (i asume) theres nothing loaded, theres no benefit to hibernation [11:14] I think shut down and reboot is sower than hibernating [11:14] slower [11:14] hm. i dont remember finding that, but thats a bit of a moot point. [11:15] New bug: #61994 in Ubuntu "Prepare mount points should show partition types" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61994 === Bazzi [n=Bastian@p50801133.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [11:30] New bug: #61995 in usplash-theme-ubuntu (main) "Usplash theme fails to allow changes if multiple themes installed." [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61995 === dsas [n=dean@host-84-9-168-32.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === mvo [n=egon@p54A66834.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === thekorn [n=markus@a81-14-207-150.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [11:50] New bug: #61996 in Ubuntu "No Audio on Jack Sense With ALC202 Audio Chipset" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61996 === kristog [n=ballio@energ63.energ.polimi.it] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:20] New bug: #61997 in gnome-menus (main) "bookmarked place Trash doesn't appear in gnome main menu's places " [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61997 === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === pirast [n=martin@p508B26D9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:28] how can i make a backtrace with gdb in edgy? [12:32] pirast: There's http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace [12:33] pirast: There's also a newer way that I've not tried yet, I'll try to dig up some info on that. [12:33] dsas: yeah.. but when the program crashes gdb closes in edgy :-( [12:34] dsas: and seb128 asked me for a backtrace.. :-( [12:35] pirast: That's weird, are you following the wiki page exactly? is gdb closing a known bug? [12:35] pirast: It may be worth trying https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2006-September/000461.html === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:37] dsas: thanks for the link, yeah, im following the wiki page exactly.. but gdb just closes.. and an apport window appears that a crash was detected.. [12:38] dsas: but thats useless since it prevents me from getting a traditional backtrace.. i also stopped apport but that did not help.. [12:41] New bug: #61998 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crash" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61998 [12:50] New bug: #61999 in Ubuntu "System remains on hibernate status (edgy knot 3)." [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61999 === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:55] New bug: #62000 in usplash (main) "No usable theme found for 1920x1200" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62000 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [01:10] New bug: #62001 in ubiquity (main) "Install failed" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62001 [01:11] If I have a problem with the live CD in general (design issue) what package should I use to file the bug. [01:11] finalbeta: er..what problem? [01:12] you may need to post that to the ubuntu-devel mailing list, not sure [01:12] depends on the problem [01:12] Ubuntu sais it needs 256Mb ram to install or users might experience odd problems. [01:12] yep [01:12] live cd would be similar [01:12] Ok, but many users on laptops don't know their graphic card steals ram [01:13] Now I know users that run the live cd [01:13] and it starts X, just keeps reading from the Cd [01:13] doesn't have enough ram do actually start it. [01:13] that's why the alternate cd is there [01:13] i think there's documentation on it too [01:13] for low end systems, dont use the desktop cd [01:13] I feels users should be notified by the cd that the system may not be able to run it, and that they could use the alternative live cd [01:13] That might be nice. [01:14] Hobbsee, I know that. But I've found out other don't [01:14] Dutch forum : http://forums.telenet.be/breedband/showthread.php?t=119163 [01:14] just explained that to a novice and experienced user [01:14] And I found out users on IRC had the same problem, and it always took them a while to find the sollution. [01:14] finalbeta: unfortunately, unless you shine a bright neon orange flashing light in their face, and other forms of torture, you cant force them to read documentation [01:14] It could be simpler... [01:15] Hobbsee, and they really shouldn. Ubuntu live Cd should tell them that it can't run on this system. [01:15] It can flash bright neon orange lights at them if < 256MiB of RAM :P [01:15] then again, by the time they've already gone to the bother of downloading the live cd, they may as well try it [01:15] hehe [01:15] You can't expect a new user to read everything if they just want to test linux can you? [01:16] Well you can, but I don't believe they will do it. and I think such experiences can push them away. A simple message would help them. [01:16] If they get stuck the first time ignoring it, atleast they will read it the second time. [01:16] And they wont be like, ubuntu doesn't boot on my laptop. [01:16] Desktop CD [01:16] The desktop CD allows you to try Ubuntu without changing your computer at all, and at your option to install it permanently later. This type of CD is what most people will want to use. You will need at least 192MB of RAM to install from this CD. [01:16] See the release notes for known issues installing from this CD. This image is not suitable for upgrading from previous releases; see the upgrade instructions for that. [01:16] There are three images available, each for a different type of computer: [01:17] it's right there [01:17] on the page of the downloads [01:17] http://www.ubuntu.com/download and pick any mirrror [01:17] I'm telling you that a laptop user with 256Mb of ram doesn't always know that his graphic card uses memory. [01:17] Ad I don't think you can expect them 2. [01:18] by all means, post it to the mailing list [01:19] Crap, now I have to get myself an account on that thing :p [01:26] heh [01:26] yes [01:35] New bug: #62002 in Ubuntu "Installer X server startup fails" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62002 === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [01:40] New bug: #62003 in kde-guidance (main) "Memory hog" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62003 === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [01:46] New bug: #62004 in nautilus (main) "Nautilus crash while downloading thumbnails for images over FTP" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62004 === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [02:05] New bug: #62005 in ubiquity (main) "Error during the installation from the knot3 livecd (kubuntu)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62005 [02:10] New bug: #62006 in ubiquity (main) "IOError: [Errno 28] No space left on device" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62006 [02:11] ehh [02:15] New bug: #62007 in kubuntu-default-settings (main) "Root-Directories disappeared from Konqueror" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62007 === theCore [n=alex@modemcable106.200-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [02:47] sorry, just fuled a bug - hopefully its a dupe of something else :) [02:47] Which bug? [02:48] its about to come through. i didnt look at the number [02:48] its against debmirror [02:50] how can 1 person be so thick? i forgot to check the fix i sugested before i filed - installing libdigest-sha1-perl does fix it [02:51] New bug: #62008 in Fedora (main) "Error resolving DNS names" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62008 [02:55] hmmmmmmm [02:55] im hoping fedora is a package in ubuntu i didnt know about [02:56] gnomefreak, as am I. [02:56] New bug: #62009 in debmirror (universe) "missing dependancy on libdigest-sha1-perl" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62009 === Kamping_Kaiser was wondering [02:56] Gah. [02:56] theres me ther Fujitsu [02:56] Kamping_Kaiser, I noticed that one a while ago, I don't think it's a dupe. I never got around to filing it. [02:56] ill look and reject as nessisary [02:56] Ubugtu is buggy. [02:56] Fujitsu: true that === Hobbsee looks @ that bug [02:56] Hobbsee, there's a Fedora and Ubuntu task. [02:57] Fujitsu, yeh, same situation. (re debmirror) [02:57] just bothered to look properly [02:57] ok the bug doesnt say fedora anywher ein it :( [02:57] gnomefreak, yes it doess. === Fujitsu fixes #62009. [02:57] yay [02:58] I saw that about a week ago as well. [02:58] in the description it doesnt but still seems to be filed against it and ubuntu [02:59] gnomefreak, it would have been accidental... [03:00] can we take fedora off there or does fedora use malone(LP) also? [03:00] gnomefreak, reject the Fedora task. [03:00] k [03:01] Fujitsu: seems fixed in debian [03:01] So it is. === Fujitsu turns it into a sync request instead. [03:01] I should have looked in Debian first >_< [03:01] want me to request it? [03:02] just did [03:02] hit enter instead of ctrl+c [03:02] now i dont have to ack it :D [03:02] True. [03:02] haha, gave like 15 seconds to answer :-P [03:03] I presume you haven't actually filed the request yet... I can't see it. [03:03] Ah, there. [03:04] Fujitsu: i have :) [03:04] Just the 3 minute Malone email delay. [03:04] i used the new and improved requestsync, courtesy of pitti, TheMuso and myself [03:05] Aha... [03:05] Hobbsee: does it still require a local mta? [03:05] nope :D [03:05] yay! [03:05] Now, I believe we want to eliminate gstreamer0.8 dependencies as much as possible? [03:05] it works OOTB, no mta required now [03:06] Hobbsee: what's the package name? :-) [03:06] Fujitsu: we do hate that version, yes ;-) [03:07] Nafallo: it's on w.u.c/DeveloperResources [03:07] Well, there's a new upstream version of soundconverter which uses 0.10. [03:07] Hobbsee: that's not a package :-P [03:07] Fujitsu: yay! [03:07] I've updated the package. [03:09] Nafallo: no, i'ts a script. [03:09] Said new upstream version now uses autotools, rendering the old debian/rules completely useless, so my new one uses CDBS. Is this acceptable? [03:09] Hobbsee: scripts can be in packages IIRC :-) [03:10] true that [03:10] New bug: #62010 in Ubuntu "(Edgylaunchpad, Gnome) wastebasket got no immediate way to empty" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62010 [03:10] New bug: #62011 in debmirror (universe) "Please sync debmirror (universe) from unstable (main)" [Untriaged,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62011 [03:10] Edgylaunchpad. I like it. [03:10] there you go :P === Hobbsee considers just closing it anyway [03:12] btw, anyone else notice a big speed diff on the desktop since yesterday night? [03:12] or marking it as a dupe of the sync. === gnomefreak noticed speed differnece on from usplash to gdm yesterday. my nvidia splash barely shows any more :) [03:14] i also noticed nautilus doesnt show any of the /bin /var /etc .... by default any more [03:15] So, am I likely to be eaten alive if I attempt to get this new CDBS-driven soundconverter sponsored? === pepsiman [n=malcolm@82-33-127-97.cable.ubr05.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [03:15] !info soundconverter edgy [03:15] soundconverter: convert sound files to other formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.7-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 44 kB, installed size 292 kB [03:15] Fujitsu: instead of using debhelper? quite likely. why'd you change it? [03:16] Hobbsee, it was all manually done in debian/rules before... Then upstream changed to autotools... [03:17] Should I rewrite debian/rules completely using debhelper> [03:17] *? [03:17] Fujitsu: ahhh.... [03:17] hmmm [03:17] Or use a 3-line CDBS one? [03:17] it's usually frowned upon to change the build system, unless debian does [03:18] Hobbsee: can't find a script that works without local mta on that page. [03:18] OK, I shall write a new debhelper debian/rules, then. [03:18] s = smtplib.SMTP('fiordland.ubuntu.com') [03:18] s.sendmail(myemailaddr, to, mail) [03:18] s.quit() [03:18] That looks very non-MTAish. === lfittl [n=lfittl@85-125-229-117.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [03:19] http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/scripts/requestsync [03:20] hmm, will try next time I want to sync something :-) [03:20] !info soundconverter [03:20] soundconverter: simple sound converter application for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 216 kB [03:21] Nafallo: it's useful :) === BazziR [n=Bastian@p50801F0D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [03:32] Stupid debhelper... [03:32] debhelper is great :P [03:33] So I can't use CDBS, even if debian/rules needs to be started from scratch again? [03:33] if it needs to be repackaged anyway, feel free to choose what you want - oh, and if you're free to do the merging for it. [03:34] Yeah, not a single scrap of the pre-autotools rules can be reused. [03:34] oh lovely. so most of debhelper stuff needs to be rewritten. === Hobbsee wonders who the maintainer is [03:35] New bug: #62012 in firefox (main) "[edgy] Session saving doesn't work in Firefox 2.0 beta2" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62012 [03:35] Maintainer: Lars Wirzenius [03:36] Fujitsu: you might want to ping him about it and work out what to do together. === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [03:37] Nafallo, OK... It's just getting dangerously close to UniverseFreeze. [03:37] naah [03:37] 5 days left or so :-) [03:41] uh === Hobbsee wonders how she ever got kismet to build. [03:45] Hobbsee: there where problems? === Nafallo didn't have many when he played with it in breezy or so :-P [03:46] Nafallo: yeah, ftbfs on all architectures === Hobbsee grabs the new debian and tries building it [03:46] huga [03:47] ` [03:47] ...which fails to build from source anyway. [03:47] Hobbsee, did you test these packages? [03:47] You should be test building and installing them, to check. Building them, at the very least.' [03:47] :P === Nafallo checks buildlogs === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@easyubuntu/docteam/kgoetz] has left #ubuntu-bugs ["Later] [03:48] Fujitsu: yeah, i did. that's why i'm wondering what the hell happened [03:48] :P [03:48] i mean, i had that with knemo, i think it was, because they changed the l-r-m between when i built it, and when it got uploaded [03:48] ooooh [03:49] s/o/u/g === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-2649.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [03:49] checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables [03:49] :-P [03:49] I like the sound of that. [03:50] yeah....i've got no idea.... === Nafallo grabs source ;-) [03:50] Nafallo: i'm building the debian now, seems to be working [03:50] it's gotten further, at least [03:50] the current edgy source fails to build [03:50] there most be a reason somewhere... [03:51] that's a bit odd FTBFS I might say ;-) [03:51] rather [03:52] oh yeah, here we go [03:52] ehrr.. missing deps? old packages? === dsas [n=dean@host-84-9-170-144.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Hobbsee waits for that to come thru [03:55] uuuh. the debdiff looks quite strange. [03:55] patching Makefile.in, configure.in, configure etc... [03:58] 1102 - * Depend on wireshark-common instead of obsolete ethereal-common; fixes [03:58] 1103 - FTBFS. Also use -rpath /usr/lib/wireshark and --with-ethereal=wireshark. [03:58] 1104 - (Closes: #380084) [03:59] yep [04:00] I looked at the config.log, the problem is: configure:1775: gcc -g -Wall -O2 -Xlinker -rpath /usr/lib/ethereal conftest.c >&5 [04:00] gcc: /usr/lib/ethereal: No such file or directory [04:00] yes [04:00] New bug: #62013 in kismet (universe) "Please sync kismet (universe) from unstable (main)" [Untriaged,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62013 [04:00] cause debian uses this --with-ethereal=wireshark. === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [04:00] and ubuntu uses --with-ethereal=ethereal [04:01] and LDFLAGS="-Xlinker -rpath /usr/lib/ethereal" \ instead of LDFLAGS="-Xlinker -rpath /usr/lib/wireshark" \ [04:02] Boo [04:02] Nafallo: debdiff doesnt look too bad -remember, a lot of that stuff gets created on the fly, and removed in the clean rule [04:02] kristog: that means i did a crap patch for it. hush :P [04:03] why aren't the stuff removed before upload then? :-) [04:03] Hobbsee: Nafallo , please, use debhelper >= 5 and switch to the new SV [04:03] (standard version) [04:03] kristog: for kismet? [04:03] kristog: id' prefer to just sync it. === Hobbsee wonders what kristog is. [04:04] Hobbsee: yes, probably you are right, anyway, i wonder if the Debian maintainer is MIA or not. [04:04] Yeah, you're not meant to touch debhelper version or standards version in an Ubuntu delta except if absolutely necessary. [04:04] er, s/what/who/ [04:05] hi [04:05] Fujitsu: yes. sorry, i use to update all package. and then send a patch to the debian bts. sorry, my fault. [04:05] i have got a question. i want to sync some packages from debian multimedia via revu. [04:05] pirast, if it's a sync it doesn't go through REVU. [04:06] Fujitsu, what about new packages which are in debian-multimedia? [04:06] Hobbsee: who am i? [04:06] and which are not in ubuntu? [04:06] kristog: yes, a DD or a MOTU or what? [04:07] pirast, just request a sync... #ubuntu-motu is a more suitable place for this. [04:07] whups.. i thought i'd be there :-) === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [04:07] thanks anyway [04:07] Hobbsee: dd, but i'm doing the *new*-motu proccess ;) [04:07] kristog: ahhh.... === Fujitsu runs off to bed, for real this time. [04:09] kristog: okay, i'll listen to you more then :P [04:09] kristog: but i would prefer to just sync it, and then get all future versions automatically synced [04:10] Hobbsee: please don't trust in me ;) normally i say a lot of bullshit ;) [04:10] hehe [04:10] New bug: #62014 in ubiquity (main) "Installer Crashed" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62014 [04:11] New bug: #62015 in rhythmbox (main) "commands from terminal no longer work" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62015 [04:15] New bug: #62016 in Ubuntu "sync xmms2 0.2DrFeelgood-6 from sid (overriding changes OK)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62016 [04:17] haha! [04:17] that's a version number allright :-P [04:17] haha [04:20] New bug: #62017 in gsf-sharp (universe) "Fail to update" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62017 [04:25] New bug: #62018 in routes (universe) "please sync 1.5-1 from debian unstable" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62018 === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D92B9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [04:35] New bug: #62020 in glibc (main) "nscd ignores /etc/hosts" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62020 === bmonty [n=bmontgom@ubuntu/member/bmonty] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [04:47] New bug: #62021 in Ubuntu "Knot3 alternate installer with server-expert has poorly formated window" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62021 [04:47] New bug: #62024 in Ubuntu "The tool does not accepts the DHCP server address in ethernet" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62024 [04:51] New bug: #62023 in gnome-print (main) "Learn printing from Fedora (gnome)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62023 === dsas [n=dean@host-84-9-170-144.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === neutrinomass [n=pandis@ppp105-128.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Xk2c [n=Xk2c@dslb-088-072-209-212.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [05:05] New bug: #62027 in Ubuntu "exceptions.SystemError" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62027 [05:08] i have a question about Bug #60230 [05:08] Malone bug 60230 in pppoeconf "pppoeconf calls zenity with wrong arguments" [Untriaged,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/60230 [05:09] howto add it to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-6.10-beta [05:09] ? [05:09] Xk2c: You're not supposed to add it ;) [05:09] ic [05:10] Xk2c: Milestones should only be set be developers (given that they are the ones actually doing the work ) [05:10] New bug: #62031 in Ubuntu "GDM sometimes does not start correct on XDMCP remote session" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62031 [05:10] but nonetheless it is an important one for edgy [05:10] ic [05:20] New bug: #62034 in coreutils (main) "dd segfaults (amd64)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62034 [05:30] New bug: #62036 in sysvinit (main) "/etc/init.d/rc should respect ltsp-client as an endpoint for usplash progressbar lenght calculation" [Low,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62036 === zul_ is now known as zul === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [05:37] is bug 59624 a dupe of bug 42264 ? [05:37] Malone bug 59624 in coreutils "dd segv's unless status=noxfer flag used" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/59624 [05:37] Malone bug 42264 in gettext "language pack po files drop cflag comment which causes segfaults in e. g. 'dd'" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/42264 === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [05:52] neutrinomass: yes [05:52] neutrinomass: also bug 62034 [05:52] Malone bug 62034 in coreutils "dd segfaults (amd64)" [Medium,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62034 [05:54] pepsiman: I'm not sure about 62034 ... why? The stack traces in 42264 and 59624 are slightly different, that's why I'm asking [05:55] 62034 is unlikely to be a dupe of 42264 actually ... [05:55] neutrinomass: I'm on amd64, unsetting LANG stops the segfault [05:55] New bug: #62042 in openoffice.org (main) "OPenoffice malfunctioning with SCIM" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62042 [05:55] New bug: #62043 in gnome-menus (main) "Menu Update Lag" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62043 [05:55] pepsiman: Ahh, ok then [05:57] 59624 needs a newer version of gettext, which probably isn't going to happen for dapper, but probably has happened for edgy === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [05:58] and the langpacks need to be updated to cope with the new gettext [06:00] New bug: #62044 in dak (universe) "[Sync Request] dak 1.0-8.1" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62044 [06:05]