[12:01] <spuddogg> Does anyone know how to tell if a specific module is in use?  In particular, 'ati fireglx'
[12:01] <Shadow] > network is fine but can browse page's on internet
[12:01] <Neo8750> Shadow] : can you [ping ip addresses?
[12:01] <PopeOfWar> kalif: The NIC I'm talking to you through is a Uniden... do you think that would work better with Ubuntu
[12:01] <PopeOfWar> ?
[12:01] <Shadow] > yes i can
[12:02] <Neo8750> i mean internet address: google.com (64.233.187.99)
[12:02] <Shadow] > no i cant
[12:02] <lost> Hi, how can i do to my ubuntu autodetec and configure automatically my wifi network?
[12:02] <PopeOfWar> kalif: They don't support Linux AT ALL, so I wouldn't be able to find a driver, or anything
[12:02] <eyequeue> Shadow] , didn't i tell you this an hour ago?  call your isp and ask their DNS servers
[12:02] <ziro01> ??
[12:02] <Shadow] > i ask and still doesnt work
[12:02] <Shadowpillar> Shadow] : did you set your interface up for DHCP and specify your isp's gateway as the gateway?
[12:02] <Neo8750> eyequeue: couldn't he get that from the router it self?
[12:02] <kalif> PopeOfWar: depends on what chip is on it
[12:03] <eyequeue> Neo8750, he didn't seem capable at that time
[12:03] <Neo8750> oh
[12:03] <spuddogg> Does anyone know how to tell if a specific module is in use?  In particular, 'ati fireglx'
[12:03] <matthewrevell> hey - can anyone recommend a web host using Ubuntu?
[12:03] <Shadow] > what about proxy ?
[12:04] <ladydoor> Shadow] : if you can't get internet working at all, you don't need to be worrying about setting up proxies.
[12:04] <morrolan> hi, I have no fonts in programs in WIne - I have copied fonts from a Windows machine into ~/.wine/c_drive/windows/fonts, but no luck. Is there something else I have to do? winecfg is no help.
[12:04] <PopeOfWar> kalif: MPX chipset on the ethernet card...
[12:05] <Shadow] > so in ubuntu i must set a dns servers
[12:05] <kalif> PopeOfWar: I don't know
[12:05] <Neo8750> Shadow] : yeah sounds like it
[12:05] <PopeOfWar> kalif: Ok, I will leave, and see if I can't get this card to work, goodby for now.
[12:05] <kalif> good night
[12:06] <kalif> ehh...   it's night here, anyway
[12:06] <hawkaloogie> Shadow] , not unless you have DHCP, which most ISPs have
[12:06] <juan_> duno if anybody that tried to help before is still around but,i think ubuntu gives root a random password, so to set up sudo to need it, i needed to set it via administration>users then add rootpw to sudoers
[12:06] <Neo8750> Shadow] : you do have a router right? and that router is your dhcp serve ron your local network right?
[12:06] <Shadow] > yes
[12:07] <ladydoor> juan_: ubuntu gives root no password
[12:07] <ladydoor> juan_: you can set one if you want
[12:07] <Flannel> !tell juan_ about sudo
[12:07] <ladydoor> juan_: but there isn't one by default
[12:08] <Shadow] > i must set ip adresess like in windows or not
[12:08] <juan_> hmm well i must of set 1  by mistake at some point or something
[12:08] <TheGateKeeper> juan_: when you first install ubuntu you add a user and give that user a password, it's that password you use with sudo to do admin operations
[12:08] <TheGateKeeper> juan_: root does not have a password unless you give it one
[12:09] <spuddogg> How can I tell if I need a particular module?
[12:09] <Mortice> spuddogg: lsmod | grep <name of your module>
[12:11] <Shadow] > so network is working fine...but dont have internet
[12:11] <spuddogg> Moritce, will that tell me if it is actually in use?
[12:11] <Shadow] > !someone
[12:11] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:11] <eyequeue> Shadow] , if you can ping by ip address, you have internet, you are lacking DNS
[12:12] <spuddogg> Mortice, when I do that, nothing comes up...It just comes back to a command line
[12:12] <ladydoor> Shadow] : did somebody ask a vague question?
[12:12] <fangorious> did the csm, compiz, cgwd, and cgwd-themes packages from compiz.info get superceded by something? they all show up as local/obsolete in synaptic
[12:12] <Mortice> spuddogg: that means the module you're looking for isn't loaded :)
[12:12] <Flannel> fangorious: how did you install them?
[12:13] <eyequeue> fangorious, #ubuntu-xgl
[12:13] <znubbis> Hello, Anyone have any experience with Ubuntu and SB Audigy cards? i cant get the mic input to work on mine :(
[12:13] <spuddogg> so, i should be able to completely remove linux-restricted-modules as long as none of the listed modules are in use?
[12:13] <woodgrain> can someone recommend a tutorial for APT?
[12:13] <Micer> hello
[12:13] <eyequeue> sudo apt-get install apt-howto-en, i believe
[12:13] <fangorious> Flannel, I added the compiz.info repos and used apt-get, I'm taking the question over to ubuntu-xgl though
[12:14] <eyequeue> woodgrain, ^
[12:14] <Shadow] > but how to create a new connection ?
[12:14] <woodgrain> eyequeue, what is this howto ... a text file, and app?
[12:14] <Mortice> spuddogg: yea, but why bother?
[12:15] <eyequeue> !info apt-howto-en
[12:15] <ubotu> apt-howto-en: example-based guide to APT (English). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.0-2 (dapper), package size 315 kB, installed size 500 kB
[12:15] <ladydoor> woodgrain: it'll probably go into /usr/share/doc/apt-howto-en
[12:15] <ladydoor> woodgrain: from which dir you can read it
[12:15] <eyequeue> woodgrain, that package the bot mentioned
[12:15] <spuddogg> Mortice, because I have to remove that one in order to have compatibility with another one
[12:15] <TheReconHunter> hey, I got a question. How do you comment out when editing scripts?
[12:15] <Stormx2> !xorg
[12:15] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:15] <eyequeue> woodgrain, lynx /usr/share/doc/apt-howto-en/ :)
[12:16] <Shadow] > Does anyone know how to create a new internet connection
[12:16] <Mortice> spuddogg: ok, you can go for it then.
[12:16] <Dev05> Shadow] , Plug-In and you're done...
[12:17] <spuddogg> Mortice, can you think of a module that is definately being used?  EVERY module in the list comes back with no output when I 'lsmod | grep <modname>
[12:17] <TheReconHunter> How do you comment out when editing scripts?
[12:17] <woodgrain> eyequeue, thanks, working on this now, BIG HELP thanks.
[12:17] <Mortice> spuddogg: just run lsmod to see what modules are being used :)
[12:17] <Dev05> TheReconHunter, To comment a line, is normally #
[12:17] <TheReconHunter> aight
[12:17] <TheReconHunter> does ## have any significance?
[12:18] <woodgrain> eyequeue,  can you help me try to install libc6 (2.3.6.6) using apt?
[12:18] <Flannel> TheReconHunter: depends on the script, for comments.  but no ## is just a normal comment
[12:18] <Dev05> TheReconHunter, I don't think so, because the first # gets evaluated first, so the rest of the line is a comment.
[12:19] <Dev05> Has anyone had problems in Edgy with the OOo and Kernel Packages Updates recently?
[12:19] <TheReconHunter> Aight, thanks
[12:19] <eyequeue> !info libc6
[12:19] <ubotu> libc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data. In component main, is required. Version 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 (dapper), package size 4480 kB, installed size 9932 kB
[12:19] <Flannel> Dev05: #ubuntu+1
[12:19] <eyequeue> woodgrain, no, because that would break dapper
[12:19] <Dev05> Flannel, OK... I thought someone would run Edgy here.
[12:19] <ramvi> Ubuntu can't find my wifi card anymore. I bet it's the new kernel. What do I do?
[12:20] <Flannel> woodgrain: you sure 2.3.6.6 isn't already part of dapper? what changes between 2.3.6.0 and .6?
[12:20] <woodgrain> eyequeue, oh no, I just installed the .deb for this... why would it break dapper?
[12:20] <eyequeue> woodgrain, never change libc6 from that which comes with a release
[12:20] <eyequeue> !info libc6 edgy
[12:20] <ubotu> libc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries. In component main, is required. Version 2.4-1ubuntu10 (edgy), package size 8157 kB, installed size 23340 kB
[12:20] <sedrake> whats the parameters to unpack a *.tar.gz   tar x or z or something?
[12:20] <woodgrain> Flannel, yo, It is 2.3.6.ds1-4 .... that I need.  Seems to go in fine.
[12:20] <eyequeue> woodgrain, edgy will have 2.4
[12:21] <woodgrain> eyequeue, well unfortunately I have to have a newer version for something really important
[12:21] <Flannel> woodgrain: 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 is Probably the same thing, really depends on whta changes were from .0 to .6
[12:21] <woodgrain> eyequeue, when's edgy coming out?
[12:21] <eyequeue> woodgrain, edgy will release in late october
[12:21] <woodgrain> Flannel, do you know what tzdata is?
[12:22] <woodgrain> eyequeue, ever hear of tzdata?
[12:22] <eyequeue> woodgrain, yes, it upgraded in edgy today
[12:22] <eyequeue> !info tzdata edgy
[12:22] <ubotu> tzdata: Time Zone and Daylight Saving Time Data. In component main, is required. Version 2006l-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 304 kB, installed size 5716 kB
[12:22] <eyequeue> !info tzdata dapper
[12:22] <ubotu> Package tzdata does not exist in dapper
[12:22] <eyequeue> because it is part of locales in dapper
[12:22] <woodgrain> eyequeue, tzdata broke my new install of libc6
[12:23] <Flannel> woodgrain: er, you're on edgy?
[12:23] <eyequeue> woodgrain, it is part of locales in dapper
[12:23] <woodgrain> Flannel, no dapper
[12:23] <Flannel> woodgrain: don't install edgy packages on dapper
[12:23] <eyequeue> woodgrain, edgy is in #ubuntu+1, dapper is here
[12:23] <woodgrain> Flannel, dapper doesn't have tzdata apparently
[12:23] <Flannel> woodgrain: the contents are in dapper, just not packaged on their own
[12:23] <eyequeue> woodgrain, it does, it is part of the locales pacakge
[12:24] <woodgrain> Flannel, eyequeue, what should a person do who needs newer packages, but doesn't want to run Ubuntu+1 unstable?
[12:24] <eyequeue> woodgrain, wait
[12:24] <morrolan> hi, I have no fonts in programs in WIne - I have copied fonts from a Windows machine into ~/.wine/c_drive/windows/fonts, but no luck. Is there something else I have to do? winecfg is no help.
[12:25] <sedrake> how do i run a .pl file?
[12:25] <eyequeue> woodgrain, the various packages in a release are tested together for compatibility, and libc6 is central to most of them, you can't just rip the good one out and stick another one in if you want the system to work
[12:25] <eyequeue> sedrake, perl foo.pl
[12:26] <J-_> what software do i need to run a Creative ZEN vision:m? just bought, haven't plugged it in yet =D
[12:26] <eyequeue> !en
[12:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about en - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:26] <eyequeue> !zen
[12:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:26] <TheReconHunter> I have 2 questions, is there a good website or irc channel that can tell me how to set up compiz/XGL? And also, if there isnt, will compiz/XGL totally mess up my computer, even if there is some artifacting on my video card?
[12:26] <simtower> TheGateKeeper, #ubuntu-xgl
[12:26] <eyequeue> TheReconHunter, #ubuntu-xgl
[12:26] <simtower> TheReconHunter,
[12:26] <woodgrain> eyequeue, isn't libc only used when building new apps?
[12:27] <morrolan> !wine fonts
[12:27] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[12:27] <eyequeue> woodgrain, no, most every single package written in c needs it
[12:27] <woodgrain> eyequeue, so it's a run-time library?
[12:27] <eyequeue> woodgrain, try this command and don't say yes:  sudo dpkg --purge libc6
[12:27] <osten> what can I do if I want to change the .mp3 association to 'xmms -e'?
[12:28] <withayanda> how can i copy & paste between apps in gnome even if i've closed the app which i copied from?
[12:28] <Dev05> osten, You can open the files properties and navigate to the "Open With" tab.
[12:28] <J-_> what software do i need to run a Creative ZEN vision:m?
[12:28] <eyequeue> woodgrain, it will tell you that it's about to remove everything :) actually, it will probably caution you that it's eseential without listing evertthing
[12:28] <osten> Yes but that just lets me choose program
[12:29] <recon0> Is there any kind of business simulation game for linux?
[12:29] <osten> Not add '-e'
[12:29] <infinito> has anyone problems with latest firefox update??
[12:29] <eyequeue> infinito, the security one? seems fine here
[12:29] <Dev05> osten, Use a custom command. Say "Add" at the bottom of the dialog.
[12:29] <infinito> eyequeue: here it segfaults when accesign launchpad.net, for example
[12:30] <osten> ah! I'm blind :) Thank you
[12:30] <eyequeue> infinito, let me try, may be https
[12:30] <Dev05> osten, No problem :) .
[12:30] <woodgrain> eyequeue,  I still don't see why the newer libc6 would cause problems, I mean there's a good chance it wouldn't, right?
[12:30] <eyequeue> infinito, no, launchpad works here
[12:31] <lampshade> yar har
[12:31] <GTX> How do I connect to a vpn on linux
[12:31] <eyequeue> woodgrain, there are dependencies in every package, but i won't prevent you from breaking your system, just want you
[12:31] <eyequeue> waRn you
[12:32] <Josh_> Hello
[12:32] <tesoro> Hi
[12:32] <GyrosGeier> hi
[12:32] <Dev05> woodgrain, Normally, you could install a newer version and, if it doesn't work, downgrade to the working one... I missed the whole conversation, so excuse me if I just "Came Up" :)
[12:32] <woodgrain> eyequeue, thanks for the help.  I apparently already installed a new libc6 ...
[12:32] <GyrosGeier> is there something I can enable in Dapper to have the system auto-update in the background?
[12:32] <woodgrain> eyequeue, but it's not configured yet.  what to do?
[12:32] <Josh_> Im trying to install Ubunntu on my desktop, but when I click "start or install ubuntu" it looks like its going to start the install but ends up just restarting
[12:32] <woodgrain> Dev05, oh, that's totally pertinent.  I guess I should try to remember the older versions?
[12:33] <eyequeue> woodgrain, forcibly install the right one
[12:33] <Dev05> woodgrain, You can go in Synaptic and do that.
[12:33] <withayanda> GyrosGeier, as in make it auto-update daily?
[12:33] <Caplain_> how do i make keyboard shortcuts so i can control xmms while im in a videogame or something?
[12:33] <eyequeue> woodgrain, grab the deb from a mirrow, then sudo dpkg -i it
[12:33] <infinito> eyequeue: it seems that my problem is caused by prelink
[12:33] <Dev05> woodgrain, Like choose the package that you want to install.
[12:33] <TheGateKeeper> Josh_: got ntfs on your hard disk
[12:33] <woodgrain> eyequeue, 'the right one' is the one that my new application depends on ... not the old one that  Dapper uses!!!
[12:34] <Josh_> yes I do
[12:34] <eyequeue> woodgrain, not if you have a dapper system!
[12:34] <Josh_> i think lol
[12:34] <woodgrain> eyequeue, i did dpkg it...
[12:34] <eyequeue> woodgrain, yu wanr a one-app machine?
[12:34] <woodgrain> eyequeue, so you're saying there is no way around this?
[12:34] <GyrosGeier> withayanda, mostly, yes
[12:34] <GyrosGeier> withayanda, but on dialup, and without sucking too much bandwidth
[12:35] <Stormx2> Defaul desktop text colours are white with black shadow. How can I invert this?
[12:35] <eyequeue> woodgrain, i'm saying to use dapper's libc6 if you run dapper
[12:35] <TheGateKeeper> Josh_: ok you need to use something like GParted to shrink the partition to make room for your linux installation
[12:35] <withayanda> ah.  that's a bit more tricky than what i was going to suggest.
[12:35] <Josh_> I want to have ubuntu alone as the only OS
[12:35] <J-_> does kzenexplorer work on ubuntu amd with a zen vision:m?
[12:35] <woodgrain> Dev05, thanks for the tips.  Synaptic won't give me the version I need.
[12:35] <woodgrain> Dev05, any recommendations?
[12:36] <Josh_> So I should burn a Gparted livecd?
[12:36] <woodgrain> eyequeue, can I run ubuntu unstable?
[12:36] <Dev05> woodgrain, Oh, nope. I know that you can downgrade, that's how I saved my PC when the X bug appeared, but, of course, the older pack version was still in the server,
[12:36] <wubrgamer> so guys, i have to ask
[12:36] <wubrgamer> IS EDGY READY YET ?
[12:37] <TheGateKeeper> Josh_: not necessarily you can do a manual partition & remove the ntfs partition
[12:37] <Dev05> wubrgamer, No.
[12:37] <wubrgamer> aww, how long ? lol, seriously, i've forgotten launch dates
[12:37] <TheGateKeeper> Josh_: the installer uses GParted
[12:37] <Josh_> Oh
[12:37] <Dev05> wubrgamer, Works, but if you don't like problems, keep Dapper or whatever version you're using.
[12:37] <Josh_> how would I manually remove it?
[12:38] <Jessehk> I was just fooling around one day and I say this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24428 Lots of allocs, no?
[12:38] <Jessehk> s/say/saw
[12:39] <woodgrain> Dev05, in synaptic, I'm now told that the proper version of libc6 is 2.3.6.ds1-4 ... which is what I have ... but it's broken.  I can't tell what's happening here.
[12:39] <TheGateKeeper> Josh_: when it asks you about partitioning, say manual, you will get a GUI that will allow you to remove that partition, then create new partitions
[12:39] <peija-kas> where does SSH store the known hosts RSA keys??
[12:39] <jUggERNAUt1980> hey all!  :)
[12:39] <TheGateKeeper> !partition
[12:39] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[12:39] <withayanda> Caplain, about your xmms key bindings...i don't think you could specifically set them for xmms, but you could set a global one and remember that you should just use it for xmms
[12:39] <shut-> how do u burn iso on linux
[12:39] <Stormx2> J-_: kzenexplorer is a really good app ^.^ highly recommended from me
[12:39] <peija-kas> id want to remove some known hosts from the key list
[12:40] <TheGateKeeper> !partition > Josh_
[12:40] <Dev05> shut-, K3B rocks.
[12:40] <Josh_> I never even get that far, the comp boots up and ubuntu starts, then I click' start or install ubuntu and it shows the 'comap' startup screen and then crashes
[12:40] <TheGateKeeper> Josh_: read the bot PM
[12:40] <shut-> Dev05 is it built into
[12:40] <Josh_> Can you send it one more time
[12:40] <withayanda> peija-kas, they're in ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[12:40] <shut-> the source
[12:41] <peija-kas> so in my home?
[12:41] <Dev05> shut-, You can download it from Install Software.
[12:41] <withayanda> yes
[12:41] <peija-kas> some jackass been trying to brute force me
[12:41] <TheGateKeeper> !partition > Josh_
[12:41] <peija-kas> from mide states america :)
[12:41] <shut-> so like apt-get install K3B
[12:41] <shut-> something like that
[12:41] <peija-kas> thx withayanda
[12:41] <Josh_> TheGateKeeper wants you to know: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted - Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs") - Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[12:41] <TheGateKeeper> Josh_: there is a CD self-check option use that to see if it's alright, sounds like a bad burn
[12:42] <Dev05> shut-, You first have to enable some package channels if you didn't already. If you're running GNOME, I'd say use the "Install Apps." shortcut on your menu.
[12:42] <Josh_> It does the same thing when the cd check runs
[12:42] <jUggERNAUt1980> yay for me, i got ubuntu installed on the toshiba!
[12:42] <woodgrain> eyequeue, I just crashed synaptic when I asked to mark libc6 for total removal ...
[12:42] <jUggERNAUt1980> thank you alternative install cd.
[12:42] <Dev05> woodgrain, No idea :(
[12:42] <woodgrain> eyequeue, I guess you were right!
[12:42] <withayanda> is there any kind of special pasteboard utility which will allow for copying & pasting even if I've closed the program which i've copied from?
[12:42] <simtower> anyone have ubuntu?
[12:43] <shut-> how
[12:43] <woodgrain> Dev05, okay, still working on it,  thanks.
[12:43] <Dev05> shut-, gnome-app-install
[12:43] <rixxon> simtower: err, you're in #ubuntu asking that?
[12:43] <TheGateKeeper> Josh_: sounds like a bad burn or bad iso, you need to download again & then try burning the new iso
[12:43] <jUggERNAUt1980> wifi is slick on this new lappy with linux.
[12:43] <jUggERNAUt1980> i have questions, tho.
[12:44] <TheGateKeeper> Josh_: I have got go now, hope you get it sorted
[12:44] <simtower> rixxon: i was wondering how much people use it?
[12:44] <Josh_> Ok thanks
[12:44] <Josh_> should i try the Alternate install CD
[12:44] <looktj> I can't start vmware machine cause of serial
[12:45] <looktj> so anyone supply me a serial for vmware?
[12:45] <rixxon> simtower: there are almost 900 people in here, i bet most of them are running ubuntu
[12:45] <simtower> you use vmware instead ubuntu?
[12:45] <rixxon> simtower: it's the most popular linux distro
[12:45] <withayanda> looktj:  vmware server?
[12:45] <TheGateKeeper> Josh_: you could if you wanted, that uses a text installer, but you need to make sure thatthe burn is GOOD BEFORE you attempt to install
[12:46] <Josh_> ok
[12:46] <Josh_> thanks
[12:46] <TheGateKeeper> np :-)
[12:46] <simtower> rixxon: is vmware faster on my computer?
[12:46] <Znubbis> Hello, anyone good at soundcards? i have a Audigy2 card but cant get the mic input to work, i have tried anythin i found but its still dead. Any ideas ?
[12:47] <looktj> withayanda: ya
[12:47] <simtower> rixxon, i have a HP
[12:47] <jUggERNAUt1980> i need to get xchat on my new box, but sudo apt-get install xchat doesn't work.  any suggestions?
[12:47] <rixxon> simtower: i don't understand?
[12:47] <eyequeue> !info xchat
[12:47] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[12:48] <eyequeue> !repos > jUggERNAUt1980
[12:48] <eyequeue> jUggERNAUt1980, you need to enable universe
[12:48] <withayanda> looktj:  just go back to vmware's site, try to download vmware server again (even though you don't need to download it) and it'll ask you to register.  at that point, it'll send you another serial.
[12:48] <jUggERNAUt1980> how do i enable universe?
[12:48] <looktj> k
[12:48] <eyequeue> jUggERNAUt1980, the bot told you
[12:48] <simtower> rixxon: i am wonder if vmware is faster than ubuntu on my HP computer?
[12:49] <sharperguy> theres a bear in my oatmeal
[12:49] <jUggERNAUt1980> i don't understand what the bot told me.
[12:49] <eyequeue> jUggERNAUt1980, read the url
[12:50] <jUggERNAUt1980> !repos
[12:50] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:50] <simtower> !help
[12:50] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[12:50] <simtower> !help compare vmware to ubuntu
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help compare vmware to ubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <Znubbis> Is there anyway to remove all soundcard setting and let it detect it again like it did during installation ?
[12:51] <misterPhyrePhox> what is an LVM partition?
[12:51] <misterPhyrePhox> i think the reason why i can't install ubuntu is because i have an LVM partition
[12:51] <simtower> LVM?
[12:51] <simtower> what it mean?
[12:51] <rixxon> simtower: vmware is a virtual machine, ubuntu is a linux distro
[12:51] <misterPhyrePhox> i have no idea; wikipedia says something about a "logical volume manager"
[12:51] <rixxon> simtower: and ubuntu probably runs slower in vmware than directly on the computer
[12:51] <misterPhyrePhox> i'm having problems related to partman
[12:51] <GyrosGeier> hi
[12:51] <simtower> rixxon, i guess what i am wondering, is which one should i install
[12:52] <looktj> withayanda: i don't see anything that says register
[12:52] <misterPhyrePhox> a thread i'm reading says the problem had to do with "LVM partitions"
[12:52] <rixxon> simtower: depends on what you want to do
[12:52] <rixxon> simtower: vmware allows you to run an operating system inside another
[12:52] <simtower> i want a good unix for my computer
[12:52] <rixxon> simtower: ubuntu simply is, an operating system.
[12:52] <simtower> someone told me that vmware was faster than ubuntu thats why i am confused
[12:52] <rixxon> simtower: with vmware, you can run ubuntu inside for example windows xp
[12:53] <simtower> so it would work faster that way?
[12:53] <rixxon> simtower: without vmware, you install ubuntu to the computer
[12:53] <lampshade> simtower: apple's and oranges, that person doesn't know what they are talking about
[12:53] <rixxon> simtower: no, but you would be able to use ubuntu from windows. if that's what you want.
[12:53] <linksta2008> Anyone familiar with FreeNX?
[12:53] <simtower> lol i thought you mean i need an apple computer for a minute
[12:53] <Dev05> simtower, Or you could simply run the LiveCD WITHOUT installing.
[12:53] <jUggERNAUt1980> thanks!
[12:54] <shwag> so i just booted into dapper for the first time. What is that program I am suppose to download now that add all the dope mods?
[12:54] <rixxon> simtower: i'm guessing you're a windows user curious for linux?
[12:54] <simtower> sure
[12:54] <simtower> i want to use the unix
[12:55] <jUggERNAUt1980> how do i edit sources.list to enable universe?
[12:55] <eyequeue> shwag, adds WHAT?
[12:55] <shwag> I tried to do edgy but the installer would just crash.
[12:55] <rixxon> simtower: you probably want to keep windows for now, but you could 1. run the livecd and try that, 2. create a dualboot, or 3. run ubuntu in vmware on windows
[12:55] <lampshade> shwag: like the cool graphics and stuff?  THe XGL?
[12:55] <Dev05> jUggERNAUt1980, Using GNOME?
[12:55] <shwag> add all the apps and codecs and stuff like that
[12:55] <jUggERNAUt1980> yeah, just installed ubuntu.
[12:55] <eyequeue> !restrictedformats > shwag
[12:55] <jUggERNAUt1980> i'm on my windows lappy, tryin to get rid of this shit.
[12:55] <Dev05> jUggERNAUt1980, run: gnome-app-install
[12:55] <simtower> okay, i will install vmware
[12:55] <simtower> thank you rixxon
[12:55] <eyequeue> shwag, see the bot
[12:56] <J_P> hi all..
[12:56] <rixxon> simtower: probably easier to just boot the livecd
[12:56] <SilentDissonance> hello :)
[12:56] <FatDave> is this the appropriate place to ask about mythtv on Ubuntu?
[12:56] <Dev05> rixxon, I've heard that you can work on the LiveCD and save your changes to a USB Chip. Is it possible with Ubuntu or that's Gentoo-Only?
[12:56] <jUggERNAUt1980> i want to enable sudo apt-get
[12:57] <SilentDissonance> I have a bit of a n00b question... from a bit of experienced position.
[12:57] <lampshade> Dev05: that's completely possible, yeah.  Work on ubuntu live and save your files to USB key memory
[12:57] <jpjacobs> !ask>SilentDissonance
[12:57] <jrib> FatDave: sure, just ask your question
[12:58] <Dev05> lampshade, No, but I mean passing an argument to the Kernel on boot and tell it to redirect all output to the USB and then reboot with the LiveCD and load the changed from the USB Chip.
[12:58] <rixxon> Dev05: i don't know
[12:58] <SilentDissonance> I have experience with FreeBSD, running on a standalone box.  I've never actually dual booted a windows/linux environment lol
[12:58] <rixxon> SilentDissonance: it's rather trivial
[12:59] <Dev05> !tell jUggERNAU1980 about repositories
[12:59] <FatDave>  I just updated mythtv on ubuntu via the package manager and everything worked.  but now when i try to run mythfronted I get a segmentaion fault.  has anyone seen this?
[12:59] <woodgrain> Dev05, do you know how to downgrade a pkg using synaptic?  Is it possible?
[12:59] <shwag> eyequeue: EasyUbuntu is what I was looking for.
[12:59] <shwag> or automatix
[12:59] <simtower> wha?
[01:00] <eyequeue> shwag, avoid automatix
[01:00] <shwag> eyequeue: how come ?
[01:00] <eyequeue> !automatix
[01:00] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[01:00] <Dev05> woodgrain, You can as long as the package is still on the server.
[01:00] <eyequeue> shwag, breaks systems irreversibly
[01:00] <Znubbis> where can i find what soundcards ubuntu loads on startup ? i think my install might find 2 cards and gets confused about it
[01:00] <Dev05> woodgrain, Open Synaptic and we'll see.
[01:00] <shwag> eyequeue: what about easyubuntu  ?
[01:01] <eyequeue> shwag, what are you trying to do?
[01:01] <SilentDissonance> i'll have 2 drives in the box.  would it be better to put winxp and ubuntu on seperate partitions on the primary drive, then use the other for storage, or have windows on the main drive, ubuntu on the second drive, then do 2 smaller storage partitions?
[01:01] <woodgrain> Dev05,  yeah, you do package-->force version ... seems to work.
[01:01] <shwag> eyequeue: ahh...nevermind. i will just do it manually.
[01:01] <eyequeue> shwag, why not add the repos the bot said at that url?
[01:01] <Dev05> woodgrain, That's it, yeah.
[01:01] <juggernaut1980> ha!  yes!
[01:01] <juggernaut1980> ubuntu is SWEET
[01:02] <shwag> !restrictedformats > shwag
[01:02] <woodgrain> Dev05, I'm downgrading my libatk ... which I also 'upgraded' earlier ... now it's removing TONS of programs ... like yelp and firefox ... what happened?
[01:02] <looktj> problem here
[01:02] <Dev05> woodgrain, Wow, hold on. Read before you do.
[01:02] <eyequeue> woodgrain, you went with non-dapper libraries
[01:02] <Przemcio78> how many version has ubuntu got already?
[01:02] <juggernaut1980> i highly recommend a toshiba lappy for ubuntu.  it was slick and easy for the install and the wifi is supported withough ndiswrapper.  :D
[01:03] <woodgrain> eyequeue, yeah, but the libraries I got came from Debian ... why would there be a problem?
[01:03] <looktj> i have vmware, got the iso on my desktop how do i boot the iso into the vmware if i don't have the cd
[01:03] <eyequeue> !versions > PreZ
[01:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about versions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <tonyyarusso> How to check the command to run something if it doesn't match the package name?
[01:03] <eyequeue> woodgrain, because debian is NOT ubuntu, nor are their debs recommended for ubuntu
[01:03] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: dpkg -L package
[01:03] <Przemcio78> ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, edubuntu, nubuntu - what else?
[01:04] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy: Thanks.
[01:04] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: will list the files in the package
[01:04] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: grep for 'bin' is one way to narrow it down
[01:04] <SilentDissonance> i'll have 2 drives in the box.  would it be better to put winxp and ubuntu on seperate partitions on the primary drive, then use the other for storage, or have windows on the main drive, ubuntu on the second drive, then do 2 smaller storage partitions?
[01:04] <eyequeue> Przemcio78, that christian ubuntu, ixthug or something
[01:05] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: so:  dpkg -L packagename |grep bin
[01:05] <looktj> no one knows my question's answer?
[01:05] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy: Right.  Found it now.
[01:05] <juggernaut1980> sheet!  now i need a player, codecs for crap.  clueless, here, tho.
[01:05] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: great
[01:05] <eyequeue> looktj, i doubt vmware use is all that common
[01:05] <peija-kas> !easyubuntu
[01:05] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[01:05] <peija-kas> for codecs etc
[01:05] <eyequeue> !language > juggernaut1980
[01:05] <Przemcio78> is a christmas ubuntu edition planned as well? with carols and the like stuff? :)
[01:06] <eyequeue> !restrictedformats > juggernaut1980
[01:06] <Dev05> looktj, Check for something called "Capture ISO" may be?
[01:06] <looktj> ok
[01:06] <eyequeue> peija-kas, that's highly to be avoided
[01:06] <Znubbis> I saw a big quickstart bar that rolls on the botom of the screen on a movie over XGL once, anyone know what app that was ?
[01:06] <Xenguy> Przemcio78: sorry Ubuntu is a pagan dist =)
[01:06] <eyequeue> peija-kas, breaks many systems in here
[01:07] <peija-kas> eyequeue ok :D
[01:07] <peija-kas> i didnt know of any breakage
[01:07] <philc> I want to experiment with apache2-mpm-worker and mod-php5. mod-php5 forces an uninstall of apache2 worker. Can I get these two installed together via apt-get/dpkg, or do I have to install php5 from source?
[01:07] <Astronouth7303> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 6.06 server. It says it can't mount the CD drive (invalid argument). Fedora Core 5 I think had the same problem (manifested in its rejection of installation discs). What's going on and how do I fix it?
[01:07] <eyequeue> peija-kas, i never used it, but watch the number of problems in here and you'll see, heh
[01:07] <peija-kas> eyequeue wont recommend it anymore then
[01:07] <Tomcat__> philc: Source probably... mod-php5 only works with prefork.
[01:07] <eyequeue> peija-kas, they changed the factoid to cautiuon about it
[01:07] <peija-kas> ive used it a couple times, automatix broke my system once, easyubuntu hasnt (yet!:)
[01:08] <Tomcat__> philc: It's compiled that way and I guess the worker-stuff has some issues with mod-php5, so it's not used.
[01:08] <peija-kas> so ill leave it be
[01:08] <looktj> Dev05: not anywhere
[01:08] <simtower> huh
[01:08] <simtower> is automatix better than ubuntu
[01:08] <looktj> do i need vmtools or something>
[01:08] <eyequeue> simtower, it is a tool to break ubuntu
[01:08] <philc> Tomcat__: alrighty. thanks
[01:08] <woodgrain> eyequeue, ubuntu is fried ... are fried out now.  Bet you're laughing ...  I wish I were.
[01:08] <eyequeue> simtower, it is not a distro
[01:08] <juggernaut1980> !restrictedformats
[01:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:08] <simtower> haha, clever, i will use it on my friend =)
[01:09] <eyequeue> woodgrain, a fresh install, without non-dapper libs
[01:09] <simtower> he is the one who have ubuntu
[01:09] <eyequeue> simtower, you define friendship strangely
[01:09] <simtower> haha he is my best buddy
[01:09] <simtower> but hes not that mean to me
[01:09] <Tomcat__> philc: I doubt you can compile both so they work together, but you never know... ;)
[01:09] <eyequeue> simtower, and you want to sabotage his machine?
[01:09] <racefire> I use Ubuntu 6.06. Who doesn't nowadays? ;) I have wine 0.9.21. When I click the audio tab in winecfg, here is the error message I get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24430
[01:09] <simtower> its just a joke right?
[01:10] <eyequeue> simtower, i would consider it a crime, myself
[01:10] <simtower> =(
[01:10] <simtower> oh
[01:10] <eyequeue> simtower, i would certainly press charges, were it me
[01:10] <simtower> well i am not your friend
[01:10] <eyequeue> agreed
[01:10] <woodgrain> eyequeue, I have no more synaptic ... should I sudo apt get update/upgrade?
[01:10] <treitter> is there any detailed documentation on usplash?
[01:11] <treitter> The main page in the wiki only has a couple of sentences
[01:11] <eyequeue> woodgrain, you can, but i think you'd be better from a fresh install from the alternate cd or similar
[01:11] <woodgrain> eyequeue, what's the alternate cd?
[01:11] <jcanfield> is there a tool on ubuntu that can detect rogue computers, ie ones that are in a different broadcast doamin...umm or maybe i forgot what the IP was. :P
[01:11] <eyequeue> treitter, whatever info you find, it has changed in edgy, so that could be why it isn't well-documented?
[01:12] <eyequeue> woodgrain, three cds per platform whatever mirror you d/l from.  livecd alternatecd servercd
[01:12] <Tomcat__> treitter: /usr/share/doc/usplash?
[01:12] <Agrajag> looktj: edit your virtual machine settings, set the CD drive to point at that iso.
[01:12] <Canuck> Evening, I am having trouble configuring my HP Laserjet 5n in linux, HPLIP doesn't seem to be working as the primary driver, is there a alternative that anyone might know of?
[01:12] <willys_fueguino> Hi. Can someone recomend me a good download accelerator??
[01:12] <exmethix> ...
[01:12] <eyequeue> woodgrain, alternate hsa more options, including recovery
[01:12] <Tomcat__> willys_fueguino: wget :o
[01:13] <SpaceFrog> hey guys
[01:13] <eyequeue> woodgrain, doesn't have to carry all the live baggage on it either, so hsa room for more apps, less d/ling later
[01:13] <misterPhyrePhox> hay hay hay!
[01:13] <SpaceFrog> Is there a tutorial on installing ATI drivers? I've just installed a fresh Ubuntu distro
[01:13] <Tomcat__> willys_fueguino: Or gwget if you need an X GUI :o
[01:13] <woodgrain> eyequeue, will the alternatecd fry my hard drive?
[01:13] <Tomcat__> !ati > SpaceFrog
[01:13] <willys_fueguino> Tomcat_, its better than th firefox accelerator??
[01:14] <eyequeue> woodgrain, will any install?  it can, sure, but is no more likely to than any of the other two cds
[01:14] <eyequeue> woodgrain, the usual "do backups first" caution always applies
[01:14] <Tomcat__> willys_fueguino: I don't know, I've never used one in Firefox... it won't "accelerate" the download anyway.
[01:14] <cerberus> does anyone know why when I go to System->Log Out occasionally nothing happens? I have to use logout or shutdown from the command menu
[01:14] <treitter> eyequeue: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplash?highlight=%28usplash%29 is pretty bare
[01:14] <Tomcat__> cerberus: You use suspend or hibernate?
[01:14] <cerberus> *sorry, comand line
[01:14] <cerberus> no, neither
[01:14] <eyequeue> woodgrain, btw, you might want to consider a separate /home partition, in case you need to reinstall later, or go to edgy in a couple months
[01:14] <treitter> tomcat__ not much more there than in the bare wiki page
[01:14] <gn0me> Ooh.. another kernel?
[01:15] <Tomcat__> treitter: Too bad :\
[01:15] <Tomcat__> treitter: You can change the wiki page to request more info maybe...
[01:15] <woodgrain> eyequeue, how about stuff like my custom stuff in usr/share/pixmaps?
[01:15] <eyequeue> treitter, wow, quite
[01:16] <eyequeue> woodgrain, cp to /home before backing up
[01:16] <treitter> mainly, I'm trying to find out if you can remove the progress bar and text box
[01:16] <eyequeue> woodgrain, cp to /home/username before backing up
[01:16] <SilentDissonance> quick question:  laptop toshiba 2535CDS (old machine), P1 300, 64mb RAM, 4gb drive.  enough to run ubuntu?
[01:16] <snid> i have a problem with services not starting on boot... i've used sysv-rc-conf and bum but neither one correctly makes pdnsd, tor, hplip start on boot
[01:16] <Canuck> nevermind, looks like I got the HPLIP Toolbox to finally open eh
[01:16] <treitter> though I'm also curious why it was created (instead of using bootsplash), and if there's any way around the 16-color limit
[01:16] <treitter> (this is all in Dapper)
[01:16] <eyequeue> treitter, most in edgy have resorted to "nosplash" bootparam presently
[01:16] <Tomcat__> cerberus: No idea then...I have that problem with suspend and hibernate, and there's an open bug for it... but since you don't use it...
[01:16] <woodgrain> eyequeue, thanks, smart ... thanks.  Can you recommend a HD partitioning utility so maybe I can get another machine running before dropping the axe on this one?
[01:16] <eyequeue> treitter, it's rather broken, hence the constant changes
[01:17] <treitter> eyequeue: ah
[01:17] <eyequeue> woodgrain, okay, let me be sure i know what you want.  you want to partition a different machine?
[01:17] <treitter> eyequeue: but how long has usplash been around? It's been used since Hoary, right?
[01:17] <juggernaut1980> i know microsoft is taboo at best with linux, but i use msn messenger, and i'd like to use amsn instead of gaim.  can i have some help getting it?
[01:18] <eyequeue> treitter, maybe breezy?  i'm not good at time, sorry
[01:18] <eyequeue> juggernaut1980, did you enable repos yet?
[01:18] <Tomcat__> juggernaut1980: sudo apt-get install amsn?
[01:18] <eyequeue> !info amsn
[01:18] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[01:18] <eyequeue> juggernaut1980, you need universe
[01:18] <juggernaut1980> i'm rather confused about enabling repos
[01:19] <eyequeue> !repos > juggernaut1980
[01:19] <eyequeue> juggernaut1980, add the lines to the file, then apt-get update, then you can install
[01:19] <woodgrain> eyequeue, yeah, okay, I have an IBM t40P that would be good to get running on linux.  Maybe this is a BIG PROJECT?
[01:19] <Tomcat__> !repos > Tomcat_
[01:20] <sethk> woodgrain, no, not really difficult
[01:20] <eyequeue> woodgrain, okay, your ubuntu live cd will have gparted on it, that will work, or you can get a livecd of gparted itself at their site i guess
[01:20] <eyequeue> woodgrain, do you have ms on that machine and need to keep it?
[01:21] <woodgrain> eyequeue, yeah that was the idea ... figured I'd do a 'disk cleanup' or whatever they call that to get it condensed.  (?)
[01:21] <eyequeue> woodgrain, if so, they recommend using ms to "defrab" the ms partition before running any resizer on it
[01:21] <woodgrain> eyequeue, defrab=?diskcleanup?
[01:22] <eyequeue> woodgrain, then go crazy :)
[01:22] <woodgrain> eyequeue, if this doesn't work ... thanks when I'll go crazy.
[01:22] <eyequeue> woodgrain, i don't know what ms calls it, just what people say in here, i've never seen ms
[01:22] <sethk> eyequeue, defrag, not defrab   :)
[01:23] <eyequeue> woodgrain, cleaning up could well fit into the idea of what people meant though
[01:23] <eyequeue> sethk, lol, could well be :)  is that the command name he needs to type?
[01:23] <woodgrain> sethk, do you know if gparted can clean up an MS partiton?>
[01:23] <eyequeue> woodgrain, defrag, with a g
[01:23] <lordi> hi all
[01:23] <sethk> woodgrain, I don't believe it will, no.
[01:23] <sethk> woodgrain, carefully back _everything_ up before resizing partitions
[01:23] <eyequeue> woodgrain, you run that ms util, then run gparted
[01:24] <woodgrain> sethk, thanks, I'll do a little lookiing around ... and by then end I'll have another ubuntu 'box'.
[01:24] <woodgrain> eyequeue, yes I will.  This is exactly what I was thinking earlier before getting confused on the names!
[01:24] <eyequeue> woodgrain, do consider what i said about a separate /home partition too, i think today taught you one reason for having one, heh
[01:25] <rixxon> how do i change default editor?
[01:25] <eyequeue> woodgrain, and btw, many many of us have had to do a fresh install over the years, we know your pain :)
[01:25] <sethk> eyequeue, there is nothing here suggesting a separate /home partition is better
[01:25] <rixxon> i.e. the editor launched by nautilus for plain text files
[01:25] <woodgrain> eyequeue, I have a /home boss!
[01:25] <eyequeue> sethk, he is losing his box to a fresh isntall here
[01:26] <eyequeue> woodgrain, cool
[01:26] <woodgrain> eyequeue, no pain, b/c I have copies of the stuff I care about elsewhere.  It's all cool.
[01:26] <sethk> eyequeue, has nothing to do with a separate /home partition
[01:26] <wobster> Hi everyone. How do I change my locale? In /etc/env is clear, but what then?
[01:26] <eyequeue> sethk, it certainly does, as he could just not overwrite that partition on fresh isntall
[01:26] <eyequeue> wobster, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales?  try it at least
[01:26] <wobster> eyequeue, keeps the old settings
[01:27] <eyequeue> wobster, oh well
[01:27] <sethk> eyequeue, he could just not overwrite it were is part of another partition.
[01:27] <selinuxium_> How do I search recursively through the file structure looking for a particular string?
[01:27] <sethk> selinuxium, grep -r
[01:27] <eyequeue> sethk, you have to overwrite /
[01:27] <Canuck> I tired to set up the HP Laserjet 5n through CUPS URL but that isn't working either, is there a Terminal command to refresh all devices?
[01:27] <sethk> eyequeue, no, you write _into_ /, but you don't need to overwrite /
[01:27] <woodgrain> sethk, eyequeue et. al.  Thanks for the help ... I'll be going bye bye to get my computer set straight.  You've been a wonderful help.  bye for now!
[01:28] <eyequeue> sethk, you try that with the ubuntu installer
[01:28] <selinuxium_> How do I search recursively through the file structure looking for a particular string WITHIN the files! :)
[01:28] <eyequeue> woodgrain, good luck man
[01:28] <nmasiero> hi all, anyone know how will be the name about new dev ubuntu version? Edgy+1?
[01:28] <isai> hi
[01:28] <Tomcat__> selinuxium_: grep -R <string> *
[01:28] <sethk> eyequeue, I have
[01:28] <eyequeue> nmasiero, not determined presently
[01:28] <Xenguy> selinuxium_: a recursive grep, yes
[01:29] <sethk> selinuxium, I told you, grep -r
[01:29] <eyequeue> sethk, did so less than one week ago, i wonder what ubuntu you were using, i know what happened here
[01:29] <nmasiero> eyequeue, the name will be clear after ubuntu egdy release?
[01:29] <juggernaut1980> can anybody recommend a good mp3 player?  something similar to winamp?
[01:29] <selinuxium_> Tomcat_ Xenguy and especially sethk... THANKS! :)
[01:29] <eyequeue> nmasiero, yes, though we know it will be an F F animal
[01:30] <Xenguy> selinuxium_: ^5
[01:30] <woodgrain> eyequeue, interesting tidbit: ms disk cleanup (defrag) is "Compressing Old Files" ... that's sure to make windows run faster!
[01:30] <ompaul> nmasiero, it will be announced about 5 to 10 days before the release of edgy
[01:30] <isai> I am doing a Desktop Live install of Ubunto LTS on PPC. The Autopartioner fails and says: "Failed to partition the select disk". It then goes to a "Ready to install screen". How do I dual boot OSX and Ubuntu sucessfully?
[01:30] <eyequeue> woodgrain, heh
[01:30] <isai> W
[01:30] <selinuxium_> hi ompaul shouldn't you be in bed?
[01:30] <isai> will this erase osx?
[01:30] <ompaul> selinuxium_, so should you :)
[01:30] <nmasiero> eyequeue, FF animal?
[01:30] <Tomcat__> isai: You can try the alternate installer... weird error though.
[01:31] <eyequeue> nmasiero, dapper drake, edgy eft, fsomething fsomething
[01:31] <nmasiero> ooohhh, sorry.... :P
[01:31] <nmasiero> I never think about this!
[01:31] <eyequeue> nmasiero, we suspect it will not be  Fire Fox   lol
[01:32] <nmasiero> LOL
[01:33] <sethk> isai, try a command line partitioner from the live cd
[01:33] <sethk> isai, or, as someone said, you can use another install program from the alternate cd
[01:33] <Y0da__> anyone know where I could find the drivers for an ATI MOBILITY RADEON IGP 345M?
[01:33] <Y0da__> it's for a vaio notebook
[01:33] <sethk> isai, it's a hardware question, though, has nothing to do with osx, it has to do with mac hardware (assuming it's a mac  :)  )
[01:33] <Flannel> Y0da__: does the wiki not cover that card?
[01:33] <Tomcat__> nmasiero: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames?highlight=%28names%29
[01:33] <sethk> Y0da__, there is one set of drivers for ATI
[01:33] <isai> it's an ibook
[01:34] <eyequeue> thanks Tomcat_
[01:34] <Y0da__> i dont think... maybe it does though
[01:34] <nmasiero> I'm looking, tnx tomcat
[01:34] <sethk> isai, ok.
[01:34] <Flannel> !tell Y0da__ about ati
[01:34] <Y0da__> i'll recheck
[01:34] <isai> sethk, which cmdline partitioner
[01:34] <sethk> isai, I use fdisk, sometimes sfdisk
[01:34] <isai> sethk, can fdisk resize partitions?
[01:34] <nmasiero> a G G animal...
[01:34] <sethk> isai, try fdisk; it's stable and something odd is happening here.
[01:34] <sethk> isai, no,
[01:35] <sethk> isai, gparted can, although I don't know if it understands bsd partitions
[01:35] <Y0da__> what about ati? besides the fact that it's known to suck
[01:35] <sethk> Y0da__, I have several ubuntu systems running with ati video
[01:35] <SpaceFrog> Hey guys. I'm dual-booting Ubuntu/XP.. I have a second harddrive in here that's NTFS.. How can I access it via Linux? And is it safe to do so?
[01:35] <sethk> Y0da__, unless you are a gamer you won't really see any problems.
[01:36] <sethk> SpaceFrog, safe to read,   mount it with mount -t ntfs
[01:36] <Flannel> SpaceFrog: safe to read, not to write
[01:36] <Flannel> !tell SpaceFrog about ntfs
[01:36] <Tomcat__> SpaceFrog: Reading is safe, writing is working but unsafe.
[01:36] <Tomcat__> !tell tomcat_ about ntfs
[01:36] <SpaceFrog> Cool, thanks
[01:36] <isai> sethk, okay then how do I dualboot linux & macosx?
[01:37] <nmasiero> tomcat: great link. tnx
[01:37] <Tomcat__> !tell tomcat__ about ntfs
[01:37] <Tomcat__> !ntfs > Tomcat__
[01:37] <sethk> isai, you can find the configuration in the info section for grub
[01:37] <sethk> isai, it will talk about bsd, but it's the same as for osx
[01:37] <Przemcio78> what's that? http://www.gaybuntu.com/
[01:37] <Flannel> doesn't he need to use yaboot to boot? or elilo?
[01:38] <Tomcat__> Przemcio78: Yet another ubuntu-based distro, or just a fake. :)
[01:38] <isai> sethk, okay I got gparted running but for /dev/hda3 the filesystem is hfs+ but I can't resize it. Any ideas what else to do?
[01:38] <nmasiero> It seem a fake...
[01:39] <Tomcat__> nmasiero: You never know... christian ubuntu wasn't a fake, but certainly looked like one :o
[01:39] <nmasiero> :O
[01:39] <aztracker1> "christian ubuntu" ???
[01:39] <Tomcat__> aztracker1: http://www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com/christianubuntu/2006/07/about-ubuntu-christian-edition.html
[01:39] <shwag> do i install flash through the firefox wizard...or should I download a package with apt ?
[01:39] <sethk> isai, is it possible to slap another disk in the box, back up all the files, repartition, and then copy the files back?
[01:39] <cynical> isai: yeah the tool doesnt support many functions for the hfs+ filesystem
[01:40] <Flannel> !tell shwag about flash
[01:40] <Przemcio78> is gaybuntu gonna have gay apps? :)
[01:40] <sethk> isai, I don't know of an hfs resizer.  although I'm not an expert in that area.
[01:40] <Tomcat__> shwag: Install in apt.
[01:40] <Przemcio78> apt-gay install :D
[01:40] <sethk> Przemcio78, there's a "lesbian" linux distribution, which looks just like debian (at least the initial page on the web site looks exactly like debian's)
[01:40] <Flannel> Przemcio78: you'd have to ask them, it's not an official project, and has no affiliation with ubuntu at all, that is assuming it even exists, and isn't just a troll
[01:40] <aztracker1> lol@christian-ubuntu
[01:40] <sethk> Przemcio78, so I guess this is competition.
[01:40] <cynical> isai: try reading this, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89960
[01:40] <isai> sethk, I have an ibook so no I can't just pop in another harddrive.
[01:41] <aztracker1> why not just get the bible apps in the repositories, and cope..?
[01:41] <sethk> isai, yes, sorry, you said that.  how about a usb drive?
[01:41] <SpaceFrog> just to be safe, how can i make sure that nobody writes to the NTFS drive?
[01:41] <SpaceFrog> only read
[01:41] <Flannel> SpaceFrog: it's mounted read only ;)
[01:41] <Tomcat__> aztracker1: Some people have strange ideas... but that's the beauty of open source: You can just do them. :o
[01:41] <Mortice> SpaceFrog: unless you're using a development driver, no one can :)
[01:41] <Tomcat__> Flannel: To mount it writable, you need special aps.
[01:41] <sethk> SpaceFrog, don't compile ntfs write support into the kernel.
[01:42] <sethk> SpaceFrog, which is the default, so don't worry
[01:42] <isai> cynical, thankx I'll read that and try it.
[01:42] <SpaceFrog> ah i see
[01:42] <SpaceFrog> thanks :)
[01:42] <SpaceFrog> had me worried, hehe
[01:42] <aztracker1> Tomcat_, I know.. but just the same, seems a little bit of a waste of resources.. branching a distro like that.. for a handfull of apps that could be in the main repo..
[01:42] <aztracker1> I'd like to see synchronet, and syncterm make it into the repo..
[01:42] <sethk> back in a bit.
[01:42] <Tomcat__> aztracker1: I agree. ;)
[01:43] <cynical> aztracker1: yes I think his excuse was that people wouldn't want to search for the packages
[01:43] <cynical> aztracker1: just a bit lazy, but whatever :\
[01:43] <lupine_85> hehe, lol
[01:43] <sethk> voraistos, he now thinks they are stupid, he doesn't think they are stupid now.  unless of course he's somewhat lacking in the brains department...  :)
[01:43] <Tomcat__> I'm all for the freedom of free software, so christians can do whatever they want. :)
[01:44] <Caplain_> is there a channel for wine?
[01:44] <_Sync_> #wine?
[01:44] <GigaClon_> what do I need to do to display on a CRT from laptop besides connected the cable
[01:44] <Tomcat__> Caplain_: #winehq
[01:44] <forevertheuni> hello all
[01:44] <eyequeue> aztracker1, in edgy, i think it made it to the repos
[01:44] <Caplain_> thx
[01:44] <eyequeue> aztracker1, just today
[01:45] <Tomcat__> GigaClon_: Does your laptop have a hardware button for changing the output? If not, you need some program for the graphics driver... what graphics card
[01:45] <Tomcat__> GigaClon_: ?
[01:45] <Przemcio78> gaybuntu - linux for gay beings
[01:45] <eyequeue> !info ichthus-desktop edgy
[01:45] <ubotu> Package ichthus-desktop does not exist in edgy
[01:45] <SMAX> HELP ME I CAN'T INSTALL NO PACKAGE
[01:45] <aztracker1> eyequeue, sync*?
[01:45] <aztracker1> sweet!
[01:45] <eyequeue> i don't know how it is spelled, anyone?
[01:45] <Tomcat__> SMAX: Please stop shouting.
[01:45] <ladydoor> Przemcio78: just drop it already. we get the joke--ha ha, there are gay people.
[01:45] <SpaceFrog> one more question, how can i install mp3 playback codecs?
[01:45] <Mortice> !mp3
[01:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:45] <Tomcat__> eyequeue: I doubt it's in the main or universe repos... probably 3rd party.
[01:46] <eyequeue> aztracker1,  "ichthus" is spelled how?
[01:46] <SMAX> Tomkat_ I install by dpkg libstdc++6 other version and over now
[01:46] <forevertheuni> I'm having a problem. I created a crypted luks partition. it works ok ..however I didn't inserted it in /etc/crypttab because I don't want to insert a password in boot time. however I left /dev/mapper/crypt in fstab. because of that I have to press ctrl+d in boot because the system doesn't find the "no so far" created /dev/mapper/crypt
[01:46] <rixxon> how do you switch from kde to gnome in kubuntu?
[01:46] <eyequeue> Tomcat_, no, i saw it today in dselect, in edgy
[01:46] <Tomcat__> !mp3 > SpaceFrog
[01:46] <GigaClon_> Tomcat_, Raedon 7500
[01:46] <Tomcat__> eyequeue: Oi :D
[01:46] <Flannel> eyequeue: no, it's not in the repositories, I just checked
[01:46] <aztracker1> eyequeue, oh, thought you were refering to synchronet/syncterm...
[01:46] <eyequeue> Tomcat_,  i'm in dapper now, hence can't llook as easily
[01:46] <Tomcat__> GigaClon_: Check the repos for some ATI tools then... I'm pretty sure there's something to switch to CRT.
[01:47] <eyequeue> Flannel, the ichthux-desktop?  i just can't spell it, but it is there
[01:47] <Flannel> eyequeue: I'm looking at the package list right now, it's not.
[01:47] <forevertheuni> after that I log in after gdm and I have a window "Crypted volume detected in /dev/hdc3" please insert password :/ I insert it and that window freezes :( what can I do to don't insert the password in boot and don't be bottered about ctrl+d(/etc/fstab)? and make that window after gdm to don't appear..or..work
[01:47] <Pierre> GigaClon_: you need fglrx-control, you can select the multisceen mode with it
[01:47] <voraistos> eyequeue: are u human? i mean do u sleep? like during the night, the day or stuff? coz ure always around and stuff helping people ? :)
[01:48] <Frederick> wich is the package wich allows vnc to display x in ubuntu:?
[01:48] <woodgrain> eyequeue, do you know if dapper supports serial hard disks?
[01:48] <ompaul> !offtopic
[01:48] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:48] <eyequeue> voraistos, human is debatable :)  i have health issue that keep me bedridden, so i have no set hours, wake to pain
[01:48] <Flannel> !tell Frederick about vnc
[01:48] <SMAX> How I can fix problem I installed by dpkg libstdc++6 package and over I can't install no package when I choose del it it say'z that I shoul delete half-system but I have 2 version of this lib
[01:48] <Tomcat__> Frederick: vino?
[01:49] <Flannel> SMAX: you installed it from a different rpository?
[01:49] <eyequeue> voraistos, and helping people is what i enjoy, also the ubunti spirit i figure, hence i help here :)
[01:49] <Frederick> Tomcat_, I got kde /
[01:49] <Frederick> =/
[01:49] <Tomcat__> SMAX: bad idea in the first place, sorry to say... :\
[01:49] <SMAX> (02:48:36) Flannel: SMAX: you installed it from a different rpository?>> yes
[01:49] <SMAX> From older version
[01:49] <Flannel> SMAX: which repository?
[01:49] <voraistos> eyequeue: i do agree with you, i am certainly not complaining ;)
[01:50] <BoyBlunder> how do i completely remove a program? i believe add/remove only removes part of it?
[01:50] <Flannel> SMAX: You sure youre deleting the right version? (the one from the other repository)
[01:50] <Tomcat__> SMAX: Easiest is probably to manually remove the older version, but it might break your system...
[01:50] <Flannel> BoyBlunder: in synaptic, "complete removal", via apt --purge
[01:50] <BoyBlunder> thanks Flannel
[01:50] <eternalswd> how would I use grep to test the pattern /\.(?:avi|mpg)$/
[01:50] <theTruth> when I run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade it says: The following packages have been kept back:
[01:50] <theTruth>   linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.!   Any fix for this?
[01:50] <Max_-> Hi there!  I already installed kubuntu, now I need to load GNOME...  any easy way like with adept??
[01:50] <ladydoor> BoyBlunder: sudo aptitude remove --purge packagename
[01:50] <SMAX> I don't now but it is ubuntu repository libstdc++6_4.0.2-10_i386.deb
[01:50] <Marc|> anyone here who may could help me with kinda newbie problem?
[01:50] <theTruth> when I run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade it says: The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.!  What can I do?
[01:50] <Mortice> Max_-: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:50] <Tomcat__> theTruth: use sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:50] <eyequeue> BoyBlunder, sudo dpkg --purge foo
[01:50] <ladydoor> !anyone
[01:50] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:50] <theTruth> Tomcat_: ok
[01:51] <Tomcat__> theTruth: They are not being upgraded because of dependency problems...
[01:51] <voraistos> ompaul is neber sleeping either. Mate go do humans things, like a new ubuntu theme, otherwise youre gonna turn into a bot lol
[01:51] <Tomcat__> Marc|: Please ask a real question :)
[01:51] <Marc|> what reason could it have that i can start no system application ? it asked me password, then tells me i still have no rights?
[01:51] <theTruth> Tomcat_: whats difference between apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[01:52] <eyequeue> voraistos, Sorry, I don't know anything about bots - try searching on http://eyequeuebot.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi lol
[01:52] <J-_> why doesn't my creative ZEN vision:m get recognized in ubuntu?
[01:52] <theTruth> Tomcat_: whats the fix?
[01:52] <Marc|> regardless if i try user pw or root pw
[01:52] <voraistos> looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
[01:52] <Marc|> regardless if i try even sudo in console
[01:52] <Flannel> Marc|: is the user in the admin group?
[01:52] <Tomcat__> theTruth: upgrade only upgrades packages that you already have... dist-upgrade also downloads and installs new dependencies of upgraded packages.
[01:52] <Flannel> voraistos: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:52] <Tomcat__> theTruth: So the fix is to do dist-upgrade
[01:52] <Marc|> it is the user i did during installation
[01:52] <theTruth> Tomcat_: so how often should I run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[01:52] <Marc|> cause i cant log in as root directly
[01:53] <Tomcat__> voraistos: Being drunk on IRC is fun, but as Flannel said, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[01:53] <Marc|> i suppose its in the normal user group
[01:53] <voraistos> Flannel: no worries dude. Just a bit drunk, and found my computer on. just fucking around, leaving right now ;)
[01:53] <SMAX> Flannel I delete it but... It saz that I should delete half system. But it don't installed comlitly. it's stop's i copied a library manualy ( my inet client depend's by the version )
[01:53] <BoyBlunder> should i be running sudo apt-get upgrade/update daily?
[01:53] <theTruth> Tomcat_: if I run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , do I ever have to run sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[01:53] <jturek> is there a way to check the status of my battery from the console?
[01:53] <Tomcat__> theTruth: You can always use it, but it's only necessary when upgrade doesn't upgrade some packages... usually kernel updates.
[01:53] <Max_-> thanks Mortice
[01:53] <eyequeue> BoyBlunder, yes, you'll get the security upgrades then
[01:53] <Tomcat__> theTruth: Nope, dist-upgrade will do more than upgrade
[01:53] <ladydoor> jturek: acpi
[01:53] <Marc|> but how can i edit or change anything if i dont get any change to run anything as root/admin?
[01:53] <jturek> ladydoor: is acpi the command?
[01:53] <theTruth> Tomcat_: ok! so I wont run apt-get upgrade anymore!  Ill only do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:54] <theTruth> Tomcat_: thank you
[01:54] <eyequeue> BoyBlunder, i would say to expect one for firefox soon, for example :)
[01:54] <ompaul> voraistos, language
[01:54] <ladydoor> jturek: yup! and acpi -V will give you other info.
[01:54] <Flannel> Marc|: what error do you get running sudo?
[01:54] <BoyBlunder> hehe eyequeue
[01:54] <jturek> ladydoor: thanks!
[01:54] <jturek> !ssh
[01:54] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[01:54] <ladydoor> jturek: np
[01:54] <runes2006> If I move my hard drives to a different machine, what do I need to run so that linux redetects the drives..or is there somethign I need to do before migrating?
[01:54] <Marc|> tells me that sudo doesnt allow me to do
[01:54] <Flannel> Marc|: what's the exact error you get?
[01:54] <theTruth> Tomcat_: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will do everything sudo apt-get upgrade does anyway, right?  And then more too?
[01:55] <Marc|> sometimes tells me that user hasnt the rights cause of sudoe (that config file fore that)
[01:55] <SMAX> Help Me somebody!!!!!! How to remove libstdc++6_4.0.2-10_i386.deb wich I installed by dpkg -i fro hard drive. I shoul make it correctly
[01:55] <Tomcat__> runes2006: You need to change fstab and maybe /etc/mkinitramfs... nothing else.
[01:55] <bobbyyu> Guys, in Kubuntu, when I try to install a package using Adept, Adept tells me it's broken.
[01:55] <David__> some noob questions about trying to ubuntu to live boot on a turion x2 64 laptop, i have the amd64 cd and it hangs up on looking for drivers on boot
[01:55] <Tomcat__> theTruth: As far as I understand it, yes... read "man apt-get" for more info.
[01:55] <theTruth> bobbyyu: maybe cause its broken :P
[01:55] <Marc|> those two messages i get,,, depending what i try to start
[01:55] <theTruth> Tomcat_: could you be wrong?
[01:56] <eyequeue> flannel, i found it :)
[01:56] <bobbyyu> What could be wrong?
[01:56] <Marc|> not sudo -i nor sudo - does work in terminal
[01:56] <runes2006> Tomcat_, even if the motherboard and cput type are different?  I have 2 drives one is the install and the second is the archived data I want to put the drives into another machine
[01:56] <Marc|> sudo -s i meant
[01:56] <Flannel> Marc|: you're sure this user has admin priveledges?
[01:56] <Tomcat__> theTruth: Of course I could be wrong.... you need to read the apt-get manpage and the apt-get documentation on the web for 100% perfect info ;)
[01:56] <eyequeue> !info ichthux-desktop edgy
[01:56] <ubotu> ichthux-desktop: Ichthux desktop system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB
[01:56] <eyequeue> Flannel, ^^ i had spelled it wrong
[01:56] <theTruth> Tomcat_: so you are new to Linux too then
[01:56] <SMAX> Help Me somebody!!!!!! How to remove libstdc++6_4.0.2-10_i386.deb - I installed it by dpkg -i from hard drive. I shoul make it correctly
[01:56] <Tomcat__> runes2006: Most things are automatically detected on bootup... you might need to change the X config, because of different graphics/input drivers... but kernel stuff is automatic.
[01:57] <bobbyyu> What can I do about these broken packages. Adept won't install them
[01:57] <Marc|> HOW can i set admin privilegues or ANY privileges when i CANT log on as root and not can RUN anything as admin?
[01:57] <Tomcat__> runes2006: This isn't Windows after all ;)
[01:57] <Flannel> eyequeue: hmm, it's not in packages.ubuntu.com yet then.  But, that's not the same project as ubuntu-Christian Edition
[01:57] <Marc|> i CANT set anything like that while installation
[01:57] <Marc|> and after installation i cant log on as root
[01:57] <Tomcat__> theTruth: No I'm not new to Linux, I know the difference between dist-upgrade and upgrade, I'm just saying *any* info you get might be wrong.
[01:57] <Marc|> so WHEN and HOW could i set up ANYthing?
[01:57] <eyequeue> Flannel, no?  i thought it was, it surpised me to see it in dselect this morning, heh
[01:57] <Flannel> Marc|: the first user you create during install has admin priveledges, also, you can use the rescue mode (at the grub menu) to boot into a root terminal
[01:58] <aztracker1> Marc|, did you do the install?  generally the user created at install has sudo priv with your own password.
[01:58] <Marc|> thats one BIG mistake in my eyes
[01:58] <theTruth> Tomcat_: how can you claim to know when you admit you are maybe wrong?
[01:58] <Marc|> yeah
[01:58] <Tomcat__> bobbyyu: You should try it from the command line...
[01:58] <runes2006> Tomcat_, what an improvement  that's great! SO id have to manually config xorg.conf
[01:58] <Marc|> did that
[01:58] <Marc|> started with that user in logon
[01:58] <Flannel> eyequeue: one is ubntu based (u-c-e) the ichthux is kde based, (and u-c-e will probably be forced to change it's name sooner or later)
[01:58] <Tomcat__> theTruth: People who claim to know and claim to have perfect knowledge are usually idiots.
[01:58] <bobbyyu> Tomcat: I'm listening
[01:58] <ladydoor> Marc|: that's why you're not on the dev team. also, *asterices* make for good emphasis
[01:58] <bobbyyu> Try what?
[01:58] <eyequeue> Flannel, ah
[01:58] <Max_-> But now, how do I start with gnome or kde ???.. without having a default DE?
[01:58] <theTruth> Tomcat_: surely an experienced linux user would know the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade!  seeing you dont know for sure, means you are not experienced and cannot be trusted for accurate informtation
[01:58] <Marc|> still tells me i dont have the privileges for example  to start users-admin
[01:58] <eyequeue> Flannel, thanks for the clarification on that btw
[01:58] <SMAX> Help Me somebody!!!!!! How to remove libstdc++6_4.0.2-10_i386.deb - I installed it by dpkg -i from hard drive. Now I can't delete it with dpkg -r
[01:59] <Marc|> or visodo
[01:59] <Agrajag> Marc|: in a terminal, logged in as that user, what does running "groups" tell you?
[01:59] <Marc|> visudo
[01:59] <Flannel> Marc|: use the root terminal
[01:59] <Tomcat__> runes2006: In case the graphics card changes, yes... or the screen... if you are experienced, you can just remove xorg.conf and reinstall the X packages, so it'll get rewritten.
[01:59] <eyequeue> SMAX, pkay, can't ... because?
[01:59] <Marc|> how start the root terminal?
[01:59] <forevertheuni> no help for my crypted partition problem?
[01:59] <bobbyyu> Tomcat: What should I type?
[01:59] <Flannel> Marc|: grub menu, recovery console
[01:59] <theTruth> forevertheuni: not today
[01:59] <Marc|> okay
[01:59] <eyequeue> Marc|, start a terminal, then sudo -i
[01:59] <forevertheuni> lol
[01:59] <mcphail> SMAX: just install the ubuntu lib instead
[02:00] <forevertheuni> :(
[02:00] <theTruth> forevertheuni: never use it, too unrelilable
[02:00] <runes2006> Tomcat_, not that experienced I'll probably have to change it to vesa then work on it in gnome
[02:00] <aztracker1> Marc| try:  sudo su
[02:00] <Marc|> ja. sudo -i... did several times
[02:00] <Tomcat__> theTruth: As I said, I know the difference. The question is if it's 100% correct. People can talk about stuff for 30 years and only then notice they're wrong. It's only a healthy attitude.
[02:00] <theTruth> forevertheuni: you can lose it all
[02:00] <Flannel> aztracker1: no one ever has a reason to sudo su
[02:00] <runes2006> Tomcat_, thanx for the help!
[02:00] <theTruth> Tomcat_: ok! I agree
[02:00] <Tomcat__> bobbyyu: sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[02:00] <SMAX> eyequeue because it say'z now that I should delete half-system progs.
[02:00] <forevertheuni> theTruth, hmm my cryptoloop in my sourcebased distro works great
[02:00] <Marc|> still couldnt start users-admin for example
[02:00] <Tomcat__> runes2006: Always :)
[02:00] <forevertheuni> theTruth, I have it for months
[02:00] <theTruth> forevertheuni: it wont forever :)
[02:00] <aztracker1> Flannel, other than lazy and tired of typing sudo for a bunch of commands.. ;)
[02:00] <theTruth> forevertheuni: on Dapper?
[02:00] <Flannel> aztracker1: sudo -i
[02:00] <Agrajag> aztracker1: that's what sudo -s is for
[02:00] <SMAX> mcphail I can't Install nothing!!!!
[02:00] <Agrajag> or sudo -i
[02:01] <aztracker1> Flannel, gotcha
[02:01] <eyequeue> SMAX, okay, you know the answer is don't :)  dpkg -i the "good" one over it, which you can d/l manually from the mirrors
[02:01] <theTruth> forevertheuni: you have encrypted partitions with Dapper?
[02:01] <AbortD> !woody
[02:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about woody - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:01] <Tomcat__> AbortD: woody is an ancient Debian release.
[02:01] <forevertheuni> theTruth, now I have
[02:01] <Marc|> okay... one simple question... how can i change from the console or directly in any file by editing that i can log on as root too?
[02:01] <theTruth> AbortD: try !oldtimer
[02:01] <forevertheuni> theTruth, a luks partition
[02:01] <theTruth> forevertheuni: whats a luks partition?
[02:01] <forevertheuni> theTruth, and dapper recognizes it in boot...
[02:01] <eyequeue> theTruth, you need them?  there's a howto on the forums for *breey* i think!
[02:01] <SMAX> I can't upgrade it says that i should fix error's apt-get -f don't help me
[02:02] <theTruth> eyequeue: I dont use breezy
[02:02] <ladydoor> Marc|: could you rephrase that, please? i'm not sure what you're asking.
[02:02] <Flannel> Marc|: I already told you, in the grub menu select the recovery console, you'll get a root console
[02:02] <forevertheuni> theTruth, it supports various password or key files not just one
[02:02] <theTruth> forevertheuni: how can I install cryptoloop ?
[02:02] <eyequeue> theTruth, i'm saying, it's not new by any means
[02:02] <forevertheuni> theTruth, it's easy
[02:02] <theTruth> forevertheuni: define easy ;)
[02:02] <forevertheuni> theTruth, but in ubuntu I'm not using cryptoloop
[02:02] <forevertheuni> pvt
[02:02] <forevertheuni> lol
[02:02] <forevertheuni> I flood too much
[02:02] <theTruth> forevertheuni: you are trolling now
[02:02] <eyequeue> theTruth, i'm deeply saddened that it's not in the installer for edgy though, hopefully edgy+1
[02:03] <AbortD> !oldtimer
[02:03] <Frederick> how do I set vnc in ubuntu to use a crappy resolution?
[02:03] <bobbyyu> Same thing
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oldtimer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <AbortD> theTruth, ?
[02:03] <Marc|> i tried several times... didnt work that way.  what i want to do is this:
[02:03] <Marc|> In Gnome
[02:03] <Marc|> Open System --> Administration --> Login Screen Setup
[02:03] <Marc|> Click on the security tab
[02:03] <Marc|> Check Allow root login
[02:03] <AbortD> pft
[02:03] <SMAX> HELP Me I installed libstdc++6_4.0.2-10_i386.deb by dpkg -i. Now i can't delete it apt-get -r don't help me apt-get -f don't help me dpkg -r don't help me
[02:03] <justin_> What is that bar on the desktop with cpu usage,ram info etc I see in so many screenshots, what is it called --- and is it in symaptic?
[02:03] <justin_> synaptic* even
[02:04] <ladydoor> Marc|: it's *not* a good idea to log into gnome as root
[02:04] <Flannel> Marc|: NO.  You need to reboot, go back to the GRUB menu (hit escape after your POST screen) then select recovery console, then add your user to the admin group
[02:04] <bobbyyu> I shouldn't be looking for Kubuntu help in #ubuntu, should I?
[02:04] <theTruth> AbortD: ?
[02:04] <AbortD> try kubuntu?
[02:04] <Marc|> okay. how do i do add the user to admin group? (and why didnt the installation did it itself?)
[02:04] <AbortD> theTruth, ?
[02:04] <Max_-> But now, how do I start with gnome or kde ???.. without having a default DE?
[02:04] <theTruth> AbortD: ?
[02:04] <jirwin> nice
[02:04] <AbortD> theTruth, ?
[02:05] <Tomcat__> bobbyyu: Depends on the problem.
[02:05] <Flannel> Marc|: if it's a fresh install, try reinstalling, if your user didnt get completely set up, no telling what else isnt.
[02:05] <SMAX> HELP Me I installed libstdc++6_4.0.2-10_i386.deb by dpkg -i. Now i can't delete it apt-get -r don't help me apt-get -f don't help me dpkg -r don't help me. HELP MEEE
[02:05] <theTruth> AbortD: ?
[02:05] <Flannel> !tell SMAX about patience
[02:05] <AbortD> theTruth, ?
[02:05] <Marc|> did install 3 times now. always the same thing
[02:05] <Tomcat__> SMAX: Please don't spam... people will help you at some time.
[02:05] <Flannel> AbortD, theTruth, stop that.
[02:05] <bobbyyu> My problem is that my packages are broken; the stupid Adept program won't install
[02:06] <bobbyyu> This isn't the first problem I had with Adept
[02:06] <BoyBlunder> do you guys recommend any good irc clients? i'm using xchat atm, and looking to expand my horizons
[02:06] <Flannel> bobbyyu: if it's adept related, then yeah #kubuntu will probably be better suited to help
[02:06] <Marc|> so what i would want is that i can once set it to be able to simply log on as root to the desktop
[02:06] <Mortice> BoyBlunder: if you can handle the console, irssi is nice.
[02:06] <t3nx1> im installing ubuntu right... what the best filesystem for ubuntu partition
[02:06] <GigaClon_> xchat works for me
[02:06] <t3nx1> \?
[02:06] <ladydoor> BoyBlunder: there's a lot; irssi, bitchx, etc.
[02:06] <Flannel> Marc|: that's a BAD idea
[02:06] <Marc|> then i would simply setup what i like and change it back
[02:06] <AbortD> BoyBlunder, i hear of quite a few people using game for irc?
[02:06] <AbortD> xchat is great though
[02:06] <Marc|> i wont even be connected to any network for this
[02:06] <BoyBlunder> AbortD, gaim? really?
[02:06] <Marc|> so what should be the prob?
[02:07] <detectiveinspekt> is there a way to make my mouse movement like in windows, its either too slow or too fast, there is no speed option
[02:07] <finalbeta> t3nx1, if you use the desktop live cd, it will format it to ext3 anyway
[02:07] <linuxtoy> try sudo su
[02:07] <AbortD> BoyBlunder, that's what i hear
[02:07] <lufis> What can I do if my BIOS doesn't support USB booting and I want to boot from USB?
[02:07] <Flannel> BoyBlunder: Gaim's IRC support is poo.
[02:07] <Marc|> okay i will try
[02:07] <Tomcat__> t3nx1: Depends on what you like... check Google for benchmarks and comparisons... Wikipedia for more info.
[02:07] <BoyBlunder> Flannel, ahhh
[02:07] <t3nx1> i selected manually partition because i want to keep windows too
[02:07] <detectiveinspekt> nevermind
[02:07] <Tomcat__> t3nx1: ext3 is the best if you don't know what's the best. :)
[02:08] <t3nx1> ok... and the swap partition should a linux-swap
[02:08] <SMAX> HELP Me I installed libstdc++6_4.0.2-10_i386.deb by dpkg -i. Now i can't delete it apt-get -r don't help me apt-get -f don't help me dpkg -r don't help me.
[02:08] <shwag> the repository guide sucks - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[02:08] <shwag> doesnt work
[02:08] <Tomcat__> t3nx1: Yup.
[02:08] <AbortD> BoyBlunder, yup gaim u can get on irc never tried it though
[02:08] <Flannel> shwag: what doesn't work?
[02:08] <finalbeta> t3nx1, yes
[02:08] <Tomcat__> SMAX: You need to uninstall it manually.
[02:08] <AbortD> BoyBlunder, go to add/remove and look in the internet part
[02:08] <SMAX> Tomcat__ I CAN'T
[02:09] <SMAX> That is the problem
[02:09] <Tomcat__> SMAX: Please stop shoting.
[02:09] <Tomcat__> SMAX: shouting ;)
[02:09] <jwl007> mmm shoting
[02:09] <AbortD> !pastebin
[02:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:10] <Tomcat__> SMAX: What happens on "sudo apt-get -f install libstdc++"? I hope you already took the 3rd party repository out of apt.
[02:10] <shwag> Flannel: a user reads through it and it seems to be making sense, but then it says "Select "Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (source)" from the list (should be the first one),"     well, in a default install...its NOT the first one. So I continue, "Now click the add button. A dialog box should appear, asking whether you'd like to update the list of repositories.    "   A dialog box does not appear...and nothing on the screen notifies me that
[02:10] <shwag> anything has changed. THe guide doesnt tell me if I should see something new on the screen. I have no idea what is happening now or if anything I have done worked.
[02:10] <linuxtoy> what 3rd party repository?
[02:11] <Tomcat__> linuxtoy: He installed libstdc++ from some 3rd party repo... afaik
[02:11] <SMAX> Tomcat__ It's said that libstdc ( but I wrote libstdc++) can't be find
[02:11] <SMAX> Tomcat__ Sory
[02:12] <SMAX> Tomcat__ Just a minute
[02:12] <Flannel> shwag: so, fix it, the problem is that usually the people writing those things are writing them on non-default installs
[02:12] <RedKrieg> is there a channel devoted to upgrading to edgy for testing or is this it?
[02:12] <Tomcat__> SMAX: Take the 3rd party repo out of /etc/apt/sources.list. Then, what does "dpkg -l | grep libstdc++" say?
[02:13] <shwag> Flannel: I would, but I dont know how to do it in the first place. Thats why im reading the page. Now I am stuck.
[02:13] <Tomcat__> RedKrieg: #ubuntu+1 I think
[02:13] <RedKrieg> ahh yes, tyty Tomcat__
[02:13] <Flannel> shwag: go down to the bottom, read how to do it via 'the command line' (which in reality is just via a text editor)
[02:13] <Max_-> Could someone help me just a little bit with KDE and GNOME? ... I'm actually running KDE.. I'd like to shut it down and start GNOME... HOW DO I DO? :)
[02:13] <ladydoor> !caps
[02:13] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:14] <Jassovissovik> Max_- is gnome installed already?
[02:14] <Flannel> shwag: if you still need help, let me know, I can... walk you through it, although not via software properties, since Im still runnign breezy
[02:14] <Tomcat__> Max_-: Do you have gnome installed? In that case, when logging in, select "session" somewhere on the screen and set it to gnome.
[02:14] <Max_-> Jassovissovik yes
[02:14] <SMAX> libstdc++6                             4.0.2-10                                The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
[02:14] <SMAX> libstdc++6-4.0-dev                     4.0.1-4ubuntu9                          The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 (development
[02:14] <Max_-> Tomcat_ yes
[02:14] <cpk1> ladydoor: little late on the no shouting there =P
[02:14] <Tomcat__> SMAX: Dapper release?
[02:14] <SpaceFrog> I just installed Ubuntu, is there a utility or setting that i can use to make my sound quality better?
[02:14] <SMAX> Tomcat__ Yes
[02:14] <ladydoor> cpk1: eh? i must've missed it
[02:15] <Tomcat__> SMAX: Output of "sudo apt-get -f install libstdc++6"?
[02:15] <cpk1> oh, oops i gues Max_- shouted at the end of his sentence =S
[02:15] <SMAX> Tomcat__ Just a minute I translate it
[02:15] <Jassovissovik> [01:14]  <Max_-> Jassovissovik yes <-- then you should only need to logout of your account, and at the login screen select your "session" to be a GNOME one
[02:15] <Max_-> omg... I shouted... did I?  Maybe I just put some inphase(is this how we say it?) on the last part...
[02:16] <Max_-> Jassovissovik and Tomcat_ thanks a lot!! :)  It's working just fine
[02:16] <Max_-> didn't think it was such well integrated
[02:16] <Jassovissovik> heeh
[02:16] <Tomcat__> Max_-: :-)
[02:16] <ladydoor> Max_-: emphasis. and using *asterices* is a good way of doing it, for future reference :-)
[02:17] <Max_-> okay! thanks a *lot*!
[02:17] <Max_-> ;)
[02:17] <David__> i need some help figuring out why my laptop won't boot into ubuntu using the cd to boot live
[02:17] <Tomcat__> David__: What is the last thing the bootup says?
[02:17] <David__> it hangs up on hardware drivers
[02:18] <we2by> hi
[02:18] <Tomcat_> David__: Probably a bad driver then that's autoloaded... hard to detect. :\
[02:18] <we2by> my kernel is not using both cores of the intel cpu. why?
[02:18] <SMAX> libstdc++6: Depend: gcc-4.0-base (= 4.0.2-10) but 4.0.3-1ubuntu5 will be install
[02:18] <SMAX> libstdc++6-4.0-dev: Depend: gcc-4.0-base (= 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)  4.0.3-1ubuntu5 will be install
[02:18] <SMAX> Depend: g++-4.0 (= 4.0.1-4ubuntu9) but can't be installed
[02:18] <grouchytim_> is anyone running ubuntu on a toshiba laptop?
[02:18] <David__> any ideas how to work thru that?
[02:18] <sureshot> i am
[02:18] <Tomcat_> David__: Not on the LiveCD, sorry... maybe somebody else knows.
[02:18] <sureshot> m65
[02:19] <grouchytim_> what model are you running it on?
[02:19] <Flannel> we2by: which kernel you using?
[02:19] <we2by> Linux jinxi-laptop 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 01:51:59 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:19] <David__> do you think i would have any better luck if i just installed it or would same problem occur?
[02:19] <sureshot> m65 s9092
[02:19] <Tomcat_> David__: If you have additional hardware (mouse, keyboard, printers, USB-drives, PCMCIA cards), remove them.
[02:19] <aaztechcln> sup guys
[02:19] <grouchytim_> i'm tying to put it on a cf-47
[02:19] <Flannel> we2by: upgrade from -386 (to -686 or -k7, etc)
[02:19] <paperclip> anyone know how to install perl modules with cpan?  I've tried several times and they are never found when i try to run a script that uses them..
[02:19] <Tomcat_> David__: The same problem would occur but it would be easier to fix (although not completely easy)
[02:19] <grouchytim_> seems to be a big footprint for it though
[02:19] <sureshot> what is going wrong
[02:19] <David__> just the computer nothing else attached
[02:19] <SMAX> Tomcat_ So what's going on whit my system
[02:20] <t3nx1> im installing ubuntu right now... after the installing is done will i be able to switch to windows easily?
[02:20] <grouchytim_> taking forever to load up on the live cd and the install says that it can't install the desktop config file
[02:20] <linuxtoy> Q: after i update the kernel is it safe to delete the old kernel?
[02:20] <SMAX> t3nx1 Yes
[02:20] <sureshot> ok how much memory and what kind of monitor
[02:20] <Tomcat_> SMAX: I think I know how to fix it, but I fear it might hose your system completely... I'm not sure... I'm still thinking. Be patient.
[02:20] <ladydoor> linuxtoy: is it taking up too much room on your computer?
[02:20] <David__> do you know of any command that will just boot the basic drivers and not search for any others?
[02:21] <Flannel> linuxtoy: yes, although you might want to keep one old one around, to downgrade in the event of a kernel having a problem with your system
[02:21] <grouchytim_> it's a 13.3 tft monitor and the thing is running like 64 megs of ram and a 6.4gig hard drive
[02:21] <linuxtoy> no . im just tired of the extra options at startup
[02:21] <Tomcat_> paperclip: Check if the perl module is in the official repos... that's easier. Apart from that I don't know. :\
[02:21] <sureshot> what monitor card
[02:21] <grouchytim_> uhhhhh
[02:21] <Tomcat_> linuxtoy: You can remove them in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:21] <grouchytim_> good one
[02:21] <grouchytim_> not sure
[02:21] <linuxtoy> ty
[02:21] <ladydoor> linuxtoy: if you comment out the first line of each kernel entry in menu.lst, you won't see it.
[02:21] <sureshot> hey all what is the min ram for ubuntu x
[02:21] <aaztechcln> I just installed a fresh Dapper 6.06.1 (Server edition), trying to use software RAID-1 for all my partitions (including / and /boot).  Grub says filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xfd
[02:22] <Flannel> linuxtoy: just remove them via the package manager, it'll remove their entry
[02:22] <SMAX> Tomcat_ By the way apt-get -f tell me that I have held package pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generate bad package
[02:22] <paperclip> tomcat_: it's not.. thanks
[02:22] <daniele_> hi guys
[02:22] <grouchytim_> yeah i'm getting edgy x now
[02:22] <sureshot> that is a monitor card problem i think you it is not seing your vid card
[02:22] <grouchytim_> gonna try that next
[02:22] <daniele_> there is anybody here that knows about how to set up dial up connection in ubuntu?
[02:22] <grouchytim_> displays nice though
[02:23] <SpaceFrog> still cant play mp3 files, for some reason
[02:23] <daniele_> hello
[02:23] <grouchytim_> and suprisingly it's found the sound which never installs straight out the box
[02:23] <sureshot> had problesm with my ati card and 17 inch mon
[02:23] <daniele_> anybody that knows about dial up?
[02:23] <Tomcat_> SMAX: Do "sudo dpkg --purge libstdc++6-4.0-dev"... that will make things easier.
[02:24] <Flannel> !tell daniele_ about pppoe
[02:24] <kitche> daniele_: what do you need to know?
[02:24] <grouchytim_> yeah i think this may be an ATI but i'm not sure what one
[02:24] <janbanan> I try to install kiba-dock. When i run the autogen.sh script it say "autoreconf:  command not found". what should I do?
[02:24] <Tomcat_> SMAX: WAIT!
[02:24] <kitche> Flannel: that's for dsl not dial up
[02:24] <hikenboot> hello all can anyone recommend a good graphical edit replace program for text files?
[02:24] <aaztechcln> damn, things were going so well I thought ubuntu would be booting right up.. im sure it's a simple change as I think booting off raid-1 has been working for a while with previous releases?
[02:24] <Tomcat_> SMAX: Okay, go ahead... was afraid it might break... but it shouldn't.
[02:24] <sureshot> you may need to read or get the updated drivers for that
[02:24] <djm62> hikenboot: does gedit not do what you want?
[02:25] <hikenboot> dont know I guess I can try it
[02:25] <SMAX> Tomcat_ Ok left one package
[02:25] <sureshot> !nvidia
[02:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:25] <Tomcat_> SMAX: Yeah and that's libstdc++... I have no idea if the system will still work if we manually remove that... :\
[02:25] <djm62> hikenboot: it's not entirely clear what exactly you do want, but if it's find/replace, I'm sure gedit has it
[02:25] <sureshot> try that time
[02:25] <sureshot> tim
[02:26] <kitche> Tomcat_: nah that would probably kill some of the programs
[02:26] <grouchytim_> ok
[02:26] <Tomcat_> SMAX: Wait a second, I'll boot a LiveCD and try it.
[02:26] <eetfunk> how do i create a "blue link" in ubuntu?  i thought they were symbolic links, but symbolic links are red instead of blue.  what are those blue links called?
[02:26] <grouchytim_> sounds like some research time
[02:26] <Tomcat_> kitche: Well that's what I fear... :\
[02:26] <sureshot> it helped me
[02:26] <eetfunk> (pale blue that is)
[02:26] <grouchytim_> i wonder how much time it's going to take to get that wifi card to work?
[02:26] <grouchytim_> bets on that one?
[02:26] <hikenboot> well im looking for things that will do wildcards and expressions and things weeding out packages in a list and removing returns and spaces and such
[02:26] <SMAX> Tomcat_ Thank uou it's a best linux irc chanel in da world
[02:26] <Flannel> eetfunk: pale blue? or cyan?
[02:27] <sureshot> mine worked on install
[02:27] <eetfunk> cyan
[02:27] <djm62> eetfunk: there are two types of links, hard links (ln) and symbolic links (ln -s).  I suspect you may have been seeing a hard link to a directory?
[02:27] <Tomcat_> SMAX: I hope you got a good net connection, because once we kill that package you can't reboot or anything or it will hose the system completely.
[02:27] <grouchytim_> that would be great if it did
[02:27] <shwag> how do I setup dual screens for nvidia hardware?
[02:27] <spuddogg> Can someone here answer a bunch of questions I have about linux-headers
[02:27] <Flannel> eetfunk: believe those are symbolic links...
[02:27] <kitche> spuddogg: yes just ask away :)
[02:27] <sureshot> i have an intell 2200 bg
[02:27] <eetfunk> ln -s makes red links, ln alone makes green files
[02:28] <spuddogg> kitche.  man am i frustrated.  can you tell me how to see what headers are loaded?
[02:28] <djm62> hikenboot: should I ever need to do that, I generally hit the shell, I'm afraid
[02:28] <janbanan> What is the command autoreconf and why can't I use it?
[02:28] <Tomcat_> janbanan: `which autoreconf` returns what?
[02:28] <kitche> spuddogg: well headers are usually for compiling
[02:28] <djm62> eetfunk: the discussion in terms of colour in the shell depends on which shell one is using, which makes this kind of awkward
[02:29] <eetfunk> djm62: using the default shell
[02:29] <detra> hello ... I got ubuntu installed on a mac ... Does anybody know a server where I can dl all my apt-gets from ??? Something that I can add to my sources.list ... Cause those I got doesn't find anything for powerpc
[02:29] <djm62> eetfunk: on a functional level, what are you trying to make happen
[02:29] <SMAX> Tomcat_ I don't have goot connection now. But I have in repo what I installed and all upgrades to 6.06.1 ( on local drive
[02:29] <hikenboot> well thanks anyways for your help djm62
[02:29] <janbanan> Tomcat_, autoreconf: command not found
[02:29] <spuddogg> kitche, i keep getting errors while trying to install a driver.  i keep googling the errors and find that its a kernel/header problem
[02:29] <orphean> ubuntu server is freaking awesome.  blank disk to a lamp server in no time at all.
[02:29] <eetfunk> djm62: add a link in mods-enabled for apache
[02:29] <eetfunk> from mods-available
[02:29] <Flannel> eetfunk: -s makes cyan links for me....
[02:29] <orphean> thanks ubuntu devs you guys rock
[02:29] <Tomcat_> janbanan: packages.ubuntu.com, you can search for the file there.
[02:29] <eetfunk> hmm... ill try again, weird
[02:30] <kitche> spuddogg: yeah that would be header problems what's the errors exactly? I might be able to help you to fix them
[02:30] <Tomcat_> SMAX: But "sudo apt-get update" works without problems?
[02:30] <eetfunk> Flannel: mine are red... weird
[02:30] <eetfunk> Flannel: and apache fails to load with those
[02:30] <spuddogg> kitche, one sec
[02:30] <spuddogg> !pastebin
[02:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:30] <detra> anybody ?
[02:30] <Flannel> eetfunk: what does ls -al show on them?
[02:30] <djm62> hikenboot: gedit may do it, but I've never tried.  it doesn't seem very natural though. sed and the like might well be worth you investing the time in learning if you haven't already
[02:31] <Flannel> detra: the ones you have should be fine, would you like to pastebin (!paste) your sources.list?
[02:31] <Winter-Soulstic1> Hello Everyone
[02:31] <Tomcat_> SMAX: Do "sudo dpkg --purge --no-act libstdc++6"
[02:31] <detra> Flannel, I did that last time we talked too ...
[02:31] <eetfunk> Flannel:  ssl.conf -> mods-available/ssl.conf     (the cyan links show a path)
[02:31] <janbanan> Tomcat_, I'm running a script to install kiba-dock. the code in the script is autoreconf -v --install
[02:31] <kmag> So... on my G4 powerbook, the Dapper installer doesn't recognize the pre-existing partition map.  This isn't listed as a known issue in the release notes.
[02:32] <Flannel> eetfunk: a path?  is ssl.conf a red or cyan one? and, paste both, for comparison
[02:32] <detra> Flannel, what was the website for that again ?
[02:32] <Flannel> !paste
[02:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:32] <hikenboot> I agree about the power of sed...it is somthing I will learn some time in the next year but I am focusing on a more profitable project in the short term...thanks for the advice though its greatly appreciated!
[02:32] <SMAX> Tomcat_ YEs apt-get update normal but I have only lockal repo. may be for fixing this problem I should update bad package
[02:32] <eetfunk> Flannel: ill try to play around, i guess im on the right path, i'lll be back in a few mins with results :)
[02:32] <Tomcat_> janbanan: I told you how to find it...
[02:32] <spuddogg> kitche, im trying to install drivers for a ralink wireless card.  this error is the story of my life http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24434
[02:32] <Winter-Soulstic1> I have just installed Ubuntu - and it is my first linux operating system ever. I finally got the wireless card working and Im ready to learn linux . What is the best way to learn, and where can I go to learn?
[02:33] <Tomcat_> janbanan: And I guarantee you you can find it through packages.ubuntu.com :)
[02:33] <detra> Flannel, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24435
[02:33] <kitche> spuddogg: do you have the kernel source installed?
[02:33] <Xenguy> hikenboot: regexxer
[02:33] <kmag> I'm given two options: erase the hd or manually edit the partition table
[02:33] <eetfunk> Flannel: got it thaniks :
[02:33] <spuddogg> kitche, is there a package called kernel-source<version>
[02:33] <Tomcat_> SMAX: Updating won't work... we need to delete the bad package and all dependencies, then reinstall them from the repository... if you can't install stuff from the dapper repos online, we can't continue.
[02:33] <Winter-Soulstic1> Go to manually edit
[02:34] <kmag> but when I go to manually edit
[02:34] <kmag> it shows everything is unpartitioned space
[02:34] <kmag> which is clearly not correct
[02:34] <Flannel> eetfunk: what was the difference?
[02:34] <kmag> as OS X boots fine off the hd
[02:34] <janbanan> Tomcat_, Found it. thanks
[02:34] <eetfunk> Flannel: created them from the target folder
[02:34] <kmag> and fdisk sees the partitions fine
[02:35] <kmag> so it's a problem w/ the installer
[02:35] <kitche> spuddogg: checking the exact name right now
[02:35] <hikenboot> thanks Xenguy
[02:35] <Xenguy> hikenboot: enjoy
[02:35] <Winter-Soulstic1> Have you created a partition in OSX?
[02:35] <hikenboot> hey xenguy you worked with enterprise xen yet?
[02:35] <Xenguy> hikenboot: no -- I was first ;-)
[02:35] <detra> Flannel, The thing is ... Every single time I search for flashplugin-nonfree it says package not found ... Everytime I search for something I found the apt-get for on google it doesn't find it on mine
[02:35] <Flannel> detra: you need normal dapper, duplicate your first pair, but with 'dapper' instead of 'dapper-updates'
[02:35] <NineTeen67Comet> g'day all .. is there an easy way to send my wife a message on her computer in another room? I used to do it with MS using the send command ..
[02:35] <SMAX> Tomcat_ mmm So here is one question I generate downloading script in sinaptic that download it on other ubuntu. Than bring it at home an do what I want from local repo. It should work?
[02:36] <kitche> spuddogg: yea you have to install kernel-source there is a package for it
[02:36] <kmag> Winter-soulstic: I created the OS X partition in OS X and the linux partitions in Ubuntu
[02:36] <detra> Flannel, how do you mean ?=
[02:36] <detra> Flannel, Oh just a sec
[02:36] <Xenguy> hikenboot: If I wasn't a free software guy, I prolly woulda TM'd my nick :P
[02:36] <LOSTINC> where can I learn how to get Sound Juicer to rip to MP3?
[02:36] <FantasticFoo> how do i enable wireless pci network card support in the kernel?
[02:37] <Winter-Soulstic1> So when you try to install Ubuntu it just shows up as one whole non-partitioned drive? even though there ARE partitions?
[02:37] <Tomcat_> SMAX: Probably... but it's not easy to know what to get...
[02:37] <spuddogg> kitche, im running the 2.6.15-27 kernel, and the only kernel-source package is 2.4.27
[02:37] <Half-Left> how to I switch automake versions?
[02:37] <Half-Left> do*
[02:37] <hikenboot> ah ok ...he he he ...well I used to work with xen alot but then they went and got in bed with microsoft
[02:37] <don> can anyone help me with some php4 install problems on dapper?
[02:37] <SMAX> Tomcat_ Why we can't use install cd?
[02:37] <Tomcat_> don: Please ask a real question, no meta-question :)
[02:37] <dan2> how do I do ntfs-3g?
[02:38] <LOSTINC> !mp3
[02:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:38] <ompaul> !ntfs-3g
[02:38] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[02:38] <kmag> wintor-soulstic1: that is correct... OS X boots, fdisk from the Ubuntu install CD shows there are partitions, but the installer can't see them
[02:38] <spuddogg> kitche, im installing that one anyway.  i figure it cant hurt
[02:38] <dan2> thanks
[02:38] <don> dpkg -l \*php\* |grep ii shows php4 (4.4.2-lbuildl) installed
[02:38] <don> but i cannot find the binary
[02:38] <Tomcat_> SMAX: Some apps on your installation might need a newer version of libstdc++ than the CD can provide.
[02:38] <Xenguy> hikenboot: gawd, I'll prolly have to change my nick altogether at this rate ;-)
[02:39] <detra> Flannel, I did what you said and did update ... but ... Still can't find flashplugin-nonfree ...
[02:39] <don> if i run php -v - it says command not found
[02:39] <kmag> NineTeen67Comet: you mean like Gaim, or if she's still running Windows, you can use Samba to send her a msg
[02:39] <harold> i have a question about qparted, anyone game?
[02:39] <SMAX> ompaul In repo there is another program which use windows library to work whith ntfs. Look for it
[02:39] <kitche> spuddogg: yea I notice that's sorta messed up
[02:39] <Tomcat_> !ask > harold
[02:39] <spuddogg> kitche, i installed that package and i still get the same error, of course
[02:39] <NineTeen67Comet> kmag: naw, she's also on an Ubuntu powered box .. not gaim, yahoo etc .. just a quick message .. popup type .. I used to do it at work with net send username "message" ..
[02:39] <l8xu> bye
[02:39] <Winter-Soulstic1> Even after you go into the manual partition thing?
[02:39] <Flannel> NineTeen67Comet: write is the command, but I think that only works on the same machine (and I know it only works with the console)... kmag mentioned samba, if oyu want a gui one, you'll have to see if gnome has one
[02:40] <Tomcat_> !ask > Tomcat_
[02:40] <NineTeen67Comet> Flannel: I'm a cli fan myself ..
[02:40] <ompaul> SMAX, someone looked for that - I would not use any of that stuff myself :)
[02:40] <spuddogg> kitche, can you send me a private message?
[02:40] <DeckApe> Hiyas folks. First time with a Ubuntu setup (been using Red Hat v7.2 for ages) - can't figure out how to get the gcc compiler package... any suggestions?
[02:40] <harold> i have mepis installed. i want to change partition sizes, make /home smaller, and / larger. can i do that now after the install without ruining my install?
[02:40] <Winter-Soulstic1> When I installed it, it did the same thing but when I went into the manual part it recognized the linux partition.
[02:41] <Flannel> NineTeen67Comet: right, but it'd have to be her that is one as well, since it shows up in their terminal
[02:41] <Tomcat_> DeckApe: Install "build-essential"... that covers most things needed for compiling.
[02:41] <SMAX> Tomcat_ But I Install all programs befor update than upgraded from local repo. So install cd and local repo all packeges that whas in my system.
[02:41] <Agrajag> DeckApe: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:41] <Flannel> detra: I don't believe flashplugin-nonfree is available for PPC
[02:41] <don> can anyone help me with php4 on dapper?  It says it is installed via dpkg - but I cannot seem to find/run the binary...  when i install php5 - it works fine - but I need php4 for my application
[02:41] <kitche> spuddogg your not registered
[02:41] <NineTeen67Comet> Flannel: aha .. no biggie .. One of my users popped me a message once from my server, to my box here once . I'll have to ask him how he did it ..
[02:41] <detra> Flannel, So what should I choose instead ...
[02:41] <Tomcat_> SMAX: What is the local repository? A local repo server?
[02:41] <voraistos> don: isnt php5 covering php4 ?
[02:41] <kmag> Winter-Soulstic1: how did you create your partitions?
[02:42] <Flannel> NineTeen67Comet: yeah, you'll need to.  I'm SURE there's some way to do it...
[02:42] <don> voraistos - no php5-imagick is not available on dapper
[02:42] <spuddogg> kitche, ahh ok n/m then.  do you have any more ideas about this problem?
[02:42] <Tomcat_> don: I think the php4 package is only an apache module, and doesn't come with a binary.
[02:42] <harold> Winter-Soulstic1: when i installed it i used qparted from the install disc.
[02:42] <Winter-Soulstic1> Kmag can you answer your IM?
[02:42] <Tomcat_> don: But there's php4-cgi if you need a binary.
[02:43] <voraistos> don: make it available. add repos. i cant tell u what to do since my webserevrs are running Debian, but everything on ubuntu is about repositories
[02:43] <kitche> spuddogg: cd /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build I want to see what that goes since build is a symlink to the source
[02:43] <SMAX> Tomcat_ Local repo an update's and some program's from other ubuntu machine. I plug it by file:/home/smax/... ./
[02:43] <Tomcat_> SMAX: How do you install stuff from that?
[02:44] <Winter-Soulstic1> True I guess I had to do that too but I originally made the partition in windows then put in the install cd for ubuntu and used qparted to reformat the partition and then install ubuntu
[02:44] <don> voraistos - i tried searching for "dapper repos php5-imagick" and nothing comes up - only this one forum where it doesnt seem to get figured out
[02:44] <voraistos> ton: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06 check this out, there should be what u want
[02:44] <NineTeen67Comet> Another totally unrelated question .. when I shutdown my box will shutdown, when I either reboot, shutdown -r now or use gui to reboot it stops where it would normally shutdown and reboot .. ideas?
[02:44] <SMAX> Tomcat_ Whit apt-get install
[02:44] <detra> anybody knows what the apt-get for flash is on ppc
[02:44] <spuddogg> kitche, well, i searched for kernel-source 2.6.15 and found the correct package name.  then i ran 'sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15' and it is downloading 44MB
[02:44] <kitche> spudddog: have you tried it?
[02:44] <spuddogg> kitche, do you think that might solve the problem?
[02:44] <Flannel> detra: I don't believe there is one
[02:44] <Agrajag> detra: I don't think flash exists on PPC
[02:44] <don> i think this php4-cgi might work
[02:45] <detra> Flannel, so how do I install flash?
[02:45] <kitche> spuddogg] : that might I just know it's probably due to not having the source installed
[02:45] <Agrajag> unless gplflash runs on ppc, and if it does it's still not much of a replacement
[02:45] <detra> Agrajag, So how do I install flash on my ppc ?
[02:45] <kmag> Winter-Soulstic: I don't understand your question regarding IM.   What type of IM are you asking about, and is your question restricted to my PowerBook when booted into Dapper live-cd?
[02:45] <spuddogg> kitche, it installed, and i get the same error.
[02:45] <Agrajag> detra: you buy an x86:p
[02:45] <Tomcat_> SMAX: So the machine got only packages from the install CD and from that local repo?
[02:45] <detra> Agrajag, haha
[02:45] <Agrajag> detra: seriously, there's no flash for ppc
[02:45] <SMAX> Tomcat_ yes
[02:46] <detra> Agrajag, Are you sure ???
[02:46] <cs14-xob> By watching this channel for 5 sec i can already see it's the right place to get help!
[02:46] <voraistos> Agrajag: if it is GPL u gat the source, if u gat the sources its gonna run on PPC
[02:46] <kitche> spuddogg: try changing directory to the /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build directory then tell me where it takes you
[02:46] <Tomcat_> SMAX: Good. Then we'll continue... but I'll remind you that it's dangerous...
[02:46] <Agrajag> voraistos: that doesn't mean it will run on PPC.
[02:46] <MugginsM> detra: sadly, flash is closed and proprietary
[02:46] <Agrajag> detra: yes
[02:46] <Agrajag> detra: adobe hasn't even released any flash version past 7 for x86
[02:46] <Tomcat_> SMAX: Do "sudo dpkg --purge --no-act libstdc++6"
[02:46] <kitche> detra: don't think Adobe has a ppc version
[02:46] <detra> Agrajag, isn't there a wannabe flash I can use ?
[02:46] <Agrajag> their linux support is horrible
[02:47] <MugginsM> Adobe doesn't even really have a *linux* version, never mind ppc
[02:47] <kitche> detra: gnuash you can try that
[02:47] <DeckApe> Agrajag - tried the sudo apt-get and it ran into unmet dependencies.
[02:47] <Agrajag> detra: as I said gplflash my be an option but I don't think it works very well
[02:47] <Winter-Soulstic1> has anyone played with xgl
[02:47] <Tomcat_> Winter-Soulstic1: Yeah.
[02:47] <Bluhd> Can anyone help me with some driver issues?
[02:47] <Tomcat_> !ask > Bluhd
[02:47] <Bluhd> I'm trying an experiment that isn't quite working
[02:47] <kitche> MugginsM: umm Flash 7 is out for linux flash 9 should eb out next year or so
[02:47] <spuddogg> kitche, it took me to /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build
[02:47] <MugginsM> kitche: not on my 64 bit machine
[02:47] <voraistos> Agrajag: source code is architecture independant. However if the code is optimised for 86 architectures it might be slow. Thats all.
[02:47] <SMAX> Tomcat_ don't help me
[02:47] <SMAX> Tomcat_ this command
[02:47] <kitche> MugginsM: flash doesn't work on x86_64
[02:47] <Bluhd> Is there any way to get Red Hat drivers working with Ubuntu?
[02:47] <MugginsM> kitche: a really old version, available for only one of the many Linux platforms, doesn't really count methinks
[02:48] <Winter-Soulstic1> how is it?
[02:48] <Agrajag> voraistos: yeha, in theiry.
[02:48] <Bluhd> Lexmark only has linux drivers for RH and SuSe
[02:48] <Tomcat_> SMAX: I want to know the output... not if it's helping :o
[02:48] <Agrajag> theory.
[02:48] <NineTeen67Comet> Winter-Soulstic1: xgl ROCKS .. I'm running dual monitors and living it ..
[02:48] <voraistos> Agrajag: except if the code uses libraries not available for PPC of course.
[02:48] <MugginsM> which is mostly why this whole open source thing took off in the first place
[02:48] <Agrajag> DeckApe: what dependencies?
[02:48] <kitche> MugginsM: umm Flash doesn't work on windows x64 either
[02:48] <Tomcat_> SMAX: The command indicates how much of your system depends on this bad package, and I need to know that.
[02:48] <detra> Agrajag, What is the apt-get for that ?
[02:48] <DeckApe> libc6-dev
[02:48] <kitche> spuddogg: ok I know the problem now hehe if it didn't take you to /usr/src
[02:48] <Agrajag> detra: the package name? gplflash I think
[02:49] <Winter-Soulstic1> Nineteen: how hard is it to setup? im a linux NOOB
[02:49] <spuddogg> kitche, well, is it something relatively simple?
[02:49] <Tomcat_> Winter-Soulstic1: I found it buggy and in breezy it was unstable (in dapper it's quite stable)... quite nice, yeah. But still buggy. :)
[02:49] <SMAX> Tomcat_ It said that it can't delete it because a lot of package which depend libstdc++6
[02:49] <Agrajag> I don't know, I've never had a need for gplflash
[02:50] <Agrajag> there's also gnash http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[02:50] <NineTeen67Comet> Winter-Soulstic1: It's a little glitchy if you have a machine that's not fast with a good video card. Video sometimes get's weird, and games often don't agree with it (you have to build a script that starts a new session w/out compiz/xgl) .. I use it daily thoug, and it's been a lot of fun, and feels nice ..
[02:50] <SMAX> Winter-Soulstic1 If you wanna have some bug's try it
[02:50] <voraistos> Agrajag: i actually wonder if its working fine. Flash is pretty bad, drains my CPU, is not uptodate, is completly useless on my box
[02:50] <voraistos> Agrajag: i might try it :)
[02:51] <SMAX> Winter-Soulstic1 or wait a week or 2 and install 6.10
[02:51] <Agrajag> voraistos: good luck, if you do try an alternative it looks like even the gplflash guys prefer gnash now
[02:51] <DeckApe> Agrajag: libc6-dev
[02:51] <kmag> Have any of you used the Dapper PPC desktop CD to install (6.06.1)?
[02:51] <kitche> spuddogg: yeah cd to /usr/src first and make a note of the linux folder in that directory tell me when you done so
[02:51] <voraistos> Agrajag: gnash? is it an other alternative ?
[02:51] <Agrajag> DeckApe: I don't see how that's possible, it should just install it, that's in the repos.
[02:51] <GyrosGeier> kmag, I've booted the live CD with great pain
[02:52] <Agrajag> voraistos: yes, I linked to it just up there ^^^^
[02:52] <kitche> spuddogg: make sure it's the version that your kernel is also
[02:52] <GyrosGeier> kmag, that would be the "alternative"
[02:52] <voraistos> Agrajag: oops yes ;)
[02:52] <spuddogg> kitche, there is a folder named 'linux' and some others named 'linux-headers' and 'linux-OLDVERSION'
[02:52] <NineTeen67Comet> n'kay .. if I am sshed into my wifes ubuntu computer, can I make a pop up message that will come up on her desktop?
[02:52] <kitche> spuddogg: hmm think linux is the one that you want
[02:53] <spuddogg> kitche, ok, now what?
[02:53] <SMAX> Tomcat_ Can I install program's with this problam May be there are an option which said "forgot" about this problam
[02:53] <kmag> stupid smart installers...
[02:53] <mirak> apt sucks bolocks !!!
[02:53] <Tomcat_> SMAX: I'm sorry, my suggestion is to reinstall... I can't fix this from here. We could still try to manually remove the package (and thereby break the package deps) and then reinstall it, but that's really risky and probably won't work... you need to reinstall or find a local expert. Or maybe try the forums...
[02:53] <Winter-Soulstic1> Hey kmag, Are you sure it doesn't recognize the partitions when you go manual partition?
[02:53] <DeckApe> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:53] <DeckApe>   libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.5-1ubuntu12) but 2.3.5-1ubuntu12.5.10.1 is to be installed
[02:53] <DeckApe> E: Broken packages
[02:54] <kitche> spuddogg: now cd back to the /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/ directory and not build
[02:54] <kmag> Winter-Soulstic1: it says 111 GB of unpartitioned space
[02:54] <Tomcat_> SMAX: Yes, you can make apt ignore dependencies... but that will make it even worse and will soon make your system unbootable I guess.
[02:54] <spuddogg> kitche, there
[02:54] <Winter-Soulstic1> But what are your options at this point?
[02:54] <kitche> spuddogg: now be careful with the follow command sudo rm build, tell me when you have done that
[02:55] <kmag> Winter-Soulstic: it will let me create new partitions wherever I want
[02:55] <spuddogg> kitche, 'rm: cannot remove `build': Is a directory'
[02:55] <voraistos> Agrajag: gnash is not in ubuntu reps; nice if it could be. seems to be fine (fash7 compliant is a good hing for free copy of copyrighted Adobe software)
[02:55] <Winter-Soulstic1> How big is your drive?
[02:55] <spuddogg> kitche, should i rmdir?
[02:55] <kmag> Winter-Soulstic1: 111 GB
[02:55] <Agrajag> NineTeen67Comet: yes, it's possible
[02:55] <kitche> spuddogg: opps yeah
[02:55] <Arrick> hey guys, I am performing a ubuntu breezy server install and it is asking me it I want to continue without a default route , and it says it does not know how to communicate with hosts on the internet, can someone help me out here?
[02:55] <Agrajag> NineTeen67Comet: zenity --display=:0.0 --info --text="hello"
[02:55] <Agrajag> something like that
[02:56] <spuddogg> kitche, now it says it cant because it's not empty
[02:56] <jackepc> nas
[02:56] <kitche> spuddogg: cd to build tell me what's in there?
[02:56] <DeckApe> Arrick, before you run the install - be sure your ethernet card is plugged into your network and ready to communicate.
[02:56] <SMAX> Tomcat_ when I make dist-upgrade to edgy My program fixed automaticly
[02:56] <spuddogg> kitche, there are 2 folders i created trying to get this working.  i'll delete them and the build folder
[02:56] <DeckApe> If you're already at that point, restart the install.
[02:56] <Winter-Soulstic1> I installed it as a dual boot with WinxpSP2, and you have OSX Right? Im not sure why it won't recognize the other partition Kmag
[02:56] <Arrick> DeckApe, it is
[02:57] <sethk> NineTeen67Comet, you can only do what Agrajag  said if X authorization is disabed
[02:57] <kitche> spuddogg: yeah delete them see build is suppose to be a symlink to the linux source that's what the program that your having
[02:57] <sethk> disabled, evem
[02:57] <Arrick> I figured it out, walks you through it
[02:57] <Tomcat_> SMAX: Good... but edgy is not stable yet. :o
[02:57] <kitche> spuddogg: program/problem*
[02:57] <NineTeen67Comet> sethk: Agrajag I'll giver it a whirl .. and see if it'll work ..
[02:57] <Arrick> thanks DeckApe, I got it
[02:57] <Flannel> voraistos: it's not.  almost
[02:57] <cs14-xob> Er der nogen danskere herinde nu?
[02:57] <DeckApe> Agrajag, did you see my paste from the output of the libc6-dev package?
[02:58] <detra> cs14-xob, jada
[02:58] <Flannel> !dk
[02:58] <cs14-xob> r
[02:58] <ubotu> For at f support til Ubuntu p Dansk bedes du venligst g til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal tales kun Engelsk.
[02:58] <kmag> WinterSoulstic1: it's not that it won't recognize the "other" partition.  It's that the installer won't recognize any of the 5 partitions I have there
[02:58] <sethk> NineTeen67Comet, if auth is on, you'll have to construct a proper .Xauthority file
[02:58] <kitche> spuddogg: have you deleted build yet?
[02:58] <spuddogg> kitche, ok, the build folder is gone
[02:58] <kitche> hey sethk I found out my problem
[02:58] <voraistos> Flannel: dev seems to go fast. very fast. just needs ATI and NVIDIA drivers for Aiglx to be released it seems;
[02:59] <Agrajag> DeckApe: Have you run apt-get update recently?
[02:59] <kitche> spuddogg: ok now do this in that folder sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux build
[02:59] <Bluhd> Argh
[02:59] <Flannel> voraistos: every 6 months we release a new version ;)  athough, for edgy it was only 4.
[02:59] <Bluhd> This is so frustrating
[02:59] <Agrajag> NineTeen67Comet: if you log on as her user, you can do it without changing anything
[02:59] <kitche> spuddogg then try to build your module
[02:59] <DeckApe> Agrajag - this is a brand new setup, done last night.
[02:59] <Bluhd> Is there ANY way to get red hat printer drivers (non-ppd file) to work on Ubuntu?
[02:59] <Agrajag> unless there's only one user, then you're golden
[02:59] <Winter-Soulstic1> The 32bit version was weird when I installed it cause it wouldn't show up at first, the 64bit version saw it right away. I had to install the 64 bit version, then reinstall using 32bit to get it to work
[02:59] <NineTeen67Comet> sethk: I can't tell if it worked or not . the line never did anything and I didn't hear her "yelp" at me .. lol .. No biggie, sounds like her login keeps restarting X on her after a few minutes ..
[02:59] <Agrajag> DeckApe: then you haven't run apt-get update?
[02:59] <NineTeen67Comet> Agrajag: aha .. I can do that .. thanks for the tips ..
[03:00] <Agrajag> DeckApe: do it now, and try again
[03:00] <DeckApe> Okay.
[03:00] <spuddogg> kitche, its running error-free so far
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[03:00] <voraistos> Flannel: i know that. though 6 months is theory.5.04 > 6.06 ??? not 6 months ;)
[03:00] <Arrick> hey guys, if I am setting up a basic server install to act as a firewall, what is the best file system I should use?
[03:00] <spuddogg> kitche, ok 'make' completed successfully, now 'make install' is running
[03:01] <spuddogg> kitche, make install successful
[03:01] <Flannel> voraistos: 5.04 to 5.10 to 6.06 (was going to be 6.04, got delayed two months) to 6.10 (only four months)
[03:01] <Agrajag> voraistos: more like 5.10 -> 6.06
[03:01] <justin_> Can the contents of /tmp --- be safely rm'ed?
[03:01] <kitche> spuddogg: now it's will work when you modprobe it :)
[03:01] <DeckApe> Reading package lists... Done
[03:01] <DeckApe> W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[03:01] <DeckApe> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[03:01] <DeckApe> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[03:01] <DeckApe> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[03:01] <Agrajag> DeckApe: ok dude, pastebin
[03:01] <kitche> !pastebin > DeckApe
[03:01] <Flannel> DeckApe: don't paste, You need to update your GPG keys, you used source-o-matic?
[03:02] <spuddogg> kitche, probably, but i forgot the module name, lol
[03:02] <DeckApe> I have no idea - ubuntu is totally new to me.
[03:02] <Arrick> evening Flannel long time no see
[03:02] <kitche> spuddogg: sorry it took longer then it should have but wanted to make sure you got the way to do it and the module is rt2570.ko
[03:02] <Agrajag> you're still on breezy?
[03:02] <DeckApe> *nod*
[03:02] <Flannel> Arrick: howdy howdy
[03:02] <Agrajag> k
[03:02] <forevertheuni> hi I wanted to use a 2.6.18 kernel..are there any place with ubuntu patches to use with this kernel?
[03:02] <Arrick> Agrajag, I am on breezy as well
[03:03] <Arrick> I dont like bugs
[03:03] <Agrajag> bugs?
[03:03] <Flannel> DeckApe: instead of dealing with tracking down their GPG keys, use the source-o-matic to generate a new list, and read the instructions at the top to update your keys
[03:03] <Flannel> !source-o-matic
[03:03] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:03] <Agrajag> I haven't had any problems
[03:03] <Winter-Soulstic1> So being a noob here and all... What is the difference between redhat, Suse and Ubuntu and Zen, etc Basically all the different linux versions...
[03:03] <soniku> how do i install all the xscreensavers?
[03:03] <spuddogg> kitche, should i continue the instructions on this site?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106846&highlight=rt2570
[03:03] <Flannel> Winter-Soulstic1: same linux versions, same kernel (well, except version differences), different software management systems.
[03:03] <Arrick> Agrajag, I am very comfortable with breezy
[03:04] <sureshot> i have found non in dapper yet been running since i got cds 2 weeks ago but had problems with breezy
[03:04] <kitche> Winter-Soulstic1: easy of use and new people friendly or not
[03:04] <kitche> Winter-Soulstic1: but every linux is the same they just act differently
[03:04] <voraistos> Agrajag, i agree with Arrick, breezy was pretty good. Dapper is lower quality i think. had a few problems. Cant use alacarte for example ?!!
[03:05] <kitche> spuddogg: yeah might as well
[03:05] <spuddogg> kitche, you are the man
[03:05] <spuddogg> kitche, you are the man
[03:05] <spuddogg> kitche, you are the man
[03:05] <spuddogg> kitche, thank you
[03:05] <Winter-Soulstic1> So if they do the same thing, why so many different versions? Is it like a gui difference??
[03:05] <Arrick> plus it runs like a dog on every one of my systems voraistos
[03:05] <Arrick> (the new distro that is)
[03:06] <SpaceFrog_> I've just installed wine via synaptic, now what do I do? I tried running winecfg but it just gave a string of errors. I somehow managed to get it running on another computer, and it works perfectly.
[03:06] <Flannel> Winter-Soulstic1: gui differences (although all select from a limited pool of desktops), mostly package management differences, rpm vs apt, etc
[03:06] <soniku> xscreensaver-demo says most of the screensavers aren't installed but the screensaver packages are- hwo do I "install" them?
[03:06] <sureshot> dapper makes my laptop buzz along quit well
[03:06] <CzarAlex> Can I chat with other users logged in to my box via the ssh shell?
[03:06] <Flannel> CzarAlex: write command
[03:06] <CzarAlex> Flannel thanks!
[03:06] <Winter-Soulstic1> what is rpm or apt?
[03:07] <SpaceFrog_> I've just installed wine via synaptic, now what do I do? I tried running winecfg but it just gave a string of errors. I somehow managed to get it running on another computer, and it works perfectly.
[03:07] <SpaceFrog_> oops
[03:07] <Winter-Soulstic1> Sorry just a windows nerd converted from the dark side trying to learn
[03:07] <SpacePuppy> man wall
[03:07] <Winter-Soulstic1> ?
[03:08] <SpacePuppy> lol.. that was to CzarAlex
[03:08] <voraistos> Winter-Soulstic1: dont think, feel (how good it is to run ubuntu :) )
[03:08] <Arrick> rtfm Winter-Soulstic1 is what I used to always get told, especially after the really knowledgeable guys all left here
[03:08] <kitche> Winter-Soulstic1: rpm hasn't been developed for 4 to 5 years now or so
[03:08] <DeckApe> Keyserver timed out?
[03:08] <kitche> DeckApe: yea you just timd out to the GPG servers
[03:08] <Winter-Soulstic1> whats that, read the forums ???
[03:09] <Arrick> yeah
[03:09] <kitche> Winter-Soulstic1: the documents, man and other things
[03:09] <Flannel> Winter-Soulstic1: apt is what we use (apt-get, and it's various frontends), rpm is a different package management, less centralized, usually contributed to 'dependency hell' that rpm users experience, there's probably a lot more info available from google, etc.
[03:09] <mista_> Winter-Soulstic1, rpm is the package system used/created by Redhat, used in Fedora, SuSe and a few others. Apt is a packade system created by debian, used by ubuntu.
[03:09] <CzarAlex> SpacePuppy heh thanks.
[03:09] <SpacePuppy> SpaceFrog: then wine prgm.exe
[03:09] <sproingie> hm.  how do i make alacarte actually, uh, WORK?
[03:09] <mista_> Flannel, the "dependancy hell" has been somewhat fixed with yum.
[03:10] <Arrick> Winter-Soulstic1, it means read the *(&^ manual, and its not a nice saying, by my opinion, just wanted to let you know what they used to say to me in here
[03:10] <sproingie> like when i make a change, have it do the really complicated thing of having that change actually take effect?
[03:10] <Kamui> what howto do I need to read to set up a mail server on my laptop?  Ill be using a Domain  name from dyndns.org, but the key is that the laptop will not always be connected to the internet, so when im not connected, I don't want mail bouncing.  I know there's some kind of special host you can use that will accept mail until the domain comes back up or something like that, but I can't for the life of me remember what it was called..
[03:10] <MugginsM> MX host
[03:10] <kitche> Arrick: well in reality ubuntu is more about not reading the documents compared to other distros
[03:11] <Winter-Soulstic1> Yeah that's pretty screwed for them to say that. I think all I need is a nice boost in the right direction and maybe I'll be giving support to those pricks one day ya know?
[03:11] <mista_> Kamui, as far as I know you'd have to run a proxy for that, but then you might as well be running the mail server on a different host than your laptop.
[03:12] <DeckApe> kitche, I'm unfamiliar (and out of practice w/IRC) as to how to send private messages..accept DCC chat, please?
[03:12] <mista_> Kamui, most mail servers, howerver, will try again between one or three days. You'll need an MX-pointer in any case.
[03:12] <sproingie> holy crap.  i have to remove and add the system panel back when i change a menu item
[03:12] <detra> Anybody know how to recover a partition from ubuntu ?
[03:12] <sproingie> just incredibly broken
[03:12] <Winter-Soulstic1> I wouldn't mind reading the manuals, etc, but it is nice to have input from other users that are already experienced. Having a community is great and all, but not if your neighbor $H!ts on your doorstep the day you move in!
[03:12] <voraistos> kitche: yeah but reading the mans, docs and whatever is the best part ! thats how you know how to really have your very own system :)
[03:13] <SpaceFrog_> has anyone got wine running?
[03:13] <spuddogg> kitche, you still here?
[03:13] <JimmiJones> I upgraded to DD today and now am having network problems, could someone help me out?
[03:13] <robertj_> does grub's menu.lst get backed up when changed by debconf?
[03:13] <kitche> voraistos: ubuntu doesn't really feel like that to me :) but then again I know how linux insides work
[03:13] <mista_> Winter-Soulstic1, heh, I know how it is. My best tip would be to read some manuals at least, but most importantly, just run it on a non important machine and toy around, you'll learn a whole lot from that.
[03:13] <kitche> spuddogg: yes
[03:13] <robertj_> my wife's machine with a pretty standard install got hosed :(
[03:13] <detra> anybody ?
[03:14] <spuddogg> kitche, i think i have another problem, lol.  hang on while i make a pastebin
[03:14] <detra> ?????
[03:15] <voraistos> kitche: by the way i would be nice to have a gentoo like ubuntu, just for the kernel, so people can compile (just changiging this specific option) for their very own architecture (pentium M or whatever ) easily. it helps for preformances, and could be done on install, so easy. well, that's a drunk guy's idea.
[03:15] <spuddogg> kitche, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24440
[03:15] <Winter-Soulstic1> Good Idea I am dual-booting with xp on my desktop right now and I have a laptop in case I hose this one up. Maybe I should steal my gf's computer and test out things on her soon to be linux box before I mess around on mine?
[03:15] <Winter-Soulstic1> (She mostly uses my laptop anyway)
[03:15] <Marsmensch> !pastebin
[03:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:16] <sproingie> voraistos: you'd get something similar from using source debs.  but yeah it'd be nice if working with source debs had more automation to go with it
[03:16] <kitche> voraistos: ubuntu is meant as a replacement for windows it's more for people to gradually learn linux instead of being throw to the wolfs :)
[03:16] <Kamui> mista_: while thats true, I wouldn't like to see the mail bounce, or send a bounced response from a mailer daemon while its retrying.  Also while it seems irrational, I have a very good reason for running the mail server off the laptop.  so I need an MX host...
[03:17] <kitche> spuddogg: it's already mounted it seesm do a lsmod|grep rt2570.ko
[03:17] <cbwalter> teste
[03:17] <voraistos> kitche: asking (with autodetection to help) people's computer architecture on install is not that bad, is it ?
[03:17] <sproingie> voraistos: working in USE flags for configuring all the debian packages would be a mighty big effort though, and wouldn't really accomplish a lot in the end
[03:17] <selt> hey
[03:17] <spuddogg> kitche, when i do that, the output is blank.  i just get a command line with no output, actually
[03:17] <kitche> sproingie: USE is barely used anymore really
[03:17] <cbwalter> hol
[03:17] <selt> my friends needs help with ubuntu on a mac
[03:18] <kitche> spuddogg: try this instead lsmod|grep rt2570
[03:18] <sproingie> kitche: huh, i always thought that was a cornerstone of gentoo
[03:18] <mista_> Kamui, you always need an mx-pointer when it comes to mail, any way you set it up
[03:18] <spuddogg> kitche, yes that one is there
[03:18] <kitche> sproingie: gentoo uses it, but it's not really used
[03:18] <detra> Can nobody help me ?
[03:18] <kitche> spuddogg: then just ignore the error :)
[03:18] <voraistos> certainly detra
[03:19] <kitche> spuddogg: it gets auto loaded
[03:19] <voraistos> detra whats wrong ?
[03:19] <spuddogg> kitche, then my device should be working then, right?
[03:19] <kitche> spuddogg: correct
[03:19] <detra> voraistos, I need to recover a partition thats still here ... but I fucked it up ...
[03:19] <sproingie> kitche: i thought you could do stuff like switch PAM or NLS or other really pervasive stuff on and off with it
[03:19] <janbanan> Has anyone managed to install latest kiba-dock? get the same error everytime
[03:19] <kitche> sproingie: but in essence you don't have to use USE at all everything is done with configure now
[03:19] <voraistos> detra: did you try with parted ?
[03:19] <detra> voraistos, in my fdisk print ... its still there ... but it just doesn't work ...
[03:20] <spuddogg> kitche, maybe after a restart?  or do i have to add it in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:20] <voraistos> detra what kind of part is it ?
[03:20] <detra> voraistos, you know what ... I might be stupid ... :d
[03:20] <detra> voraistos, its a mac os x partition
[03:20] <kitche> spuddogg: try ifup <device name>
[03:21] <detra> voraistos, I can give you a print of my print ?
[03:21] <kitche> spuddogg: have to use sudo :) it probably is eth1
[03:21] <voraistos> detra: i dunno anything about its specificities...... when u say its not available, how can you actually say that, can u mount it ?
[03:21] <sproingie> kitche: sounds more like ports every day
[03:21] <detra> voraistos, How do I mount it ??
[03:21] <JimmiJones> Anyone here willing to help me sort out a network problem?
[03:21] <sproingie> kitche: maybe they should just merge with pkgsrc
[03:21] <Kamui> mista_:  really? Because I've set up a few email servers in teh past without ever coming across any MX
[03:21] <voraistos> detra .......okok
[03:22] <lupine_85>  anyone here able to answer a question about inn2 ?
[03:22] <kitche> sproingie: see I m one that doesn't like gentoo do to their developing practices
[03:22] <MugginsM> kamui: I expect you lost mail when your mail servers were down then :)
[03:22] <voraistos> do you know the actual "adress" (i call it like that) of the partition, like /dev/hda1 or something ?
[03:22] <detra> voraistos, Well the thing was ... I had that partition ... Then I wanted to install ubuntu to learn that ... And when I was doing partitioning I fucked it up ... so I tried to cancel it ... Now I can't get into my mac os ... Im in ubuntu now ... as you would know ...
[03:22] <Kamui> probably, although they've always been for personal use...
[03:23] <Kamui> so the mx server keeps mail when it can't be delivered
[03:23] <voraistos> detra: it was your main partition ?
[03:23] <detra> voraistos, Can we join a chan where I can send you the print ... Then you can see it .. Cause Im not sure which one it is ...
[03:23] <detra> voraistos, ye
[03:23] <SpaceFrog_> Check out my weird error: http://pastebin.ca/180323
[03:23] <sproingie> kitche: oh i find the idea of gentoo was sound enough, it just wasn't executed with a lot of professional rigor.  configuration management is punishingly hard tedious work
[03:23] <MugginsM> when you set up the DNS entry of a domain name, you should list the "MX"s, which is the list of servers that handle mail for that domain
[03:23] <SpaceFrog_> It seems to be my graphics card drivers
[03:23] <kitche> Kamui: the mail server will hold the mail in spool until it is flushed
[03:23] <MugginsM> you're supposed to list at least two MXs
[03:24] <voraistos> detra check out the  mp tab
[03:24] <MugginsM> so if the main one is broken, the second one will accept mail for it and pass it on later
[03:24] <kitche> sproingie: I like Source Mage but I msorta biased sicne I help work on SourceMage
[03:24] <mista_> MugginsM, two MXs? Hm, never tried that, for redundancy?
[03:24] <MugginsM> mista: yeah
[03:24] <Arrick> hey guys, is this still the official support channel for breezy?
[03:24] <DeckApe> kitche, I'm unfamiliar (and out of practice w/IRC) as to how to send private messages..accept DCC chat, please?
[03:24] <kitche> MugginsM: you don't have to though
[03:24] <MugginsM> you can give them priorities so the second one only gets used if the main one is down
[03:24] <kitche> DeckApe: you have to register with nickserv do /msg Nickserv help
[03:25] <MugginsM> kitche: you don't have to do anything on the internet, but it is/was a standard
[03:25] <Telroth_Plushie|> hey
[03:25] <sproingie> kitche: it might be good but its terminology doesn't exactly help it into fortune 500 server rooms
[03:25] <SpaceFrog_> Does anyone know why that's happening?
[03:25] <Telroth_Plushie|> what's the best solution to the shift+backspace restarting x.org ?
[03:25] <MugginsM> telro: solution? what's the problem?
[03:25] <sproingie> ctrl-alt-backspace restarts X for me.  not shift-backspace
[03:26] <kitche> DeckApe: here just do this /join #kitchetech
[03:26] <Telroth_Plushie|> MugginsM, shift+backspace causes xorg to restart
[03:26] <Kamui> kitche: one more question, what does that mean exactly, until its flushed?
[03:26] <mista_> MugginsM, looks like I've missed that standard then ;)
[03:26] <kitche> Kamui: until it's forcefully pushed out of spool
[03:26] <SpaceFrog_> Why does it say Bus type: PCI when it's in an AGP slot?
[03:26] <mista_> MugginsM, well, might as well give it a try on the few servers I'm running.
[03:26] <sproingie> Telroth_Plushie|: sounds like you have a weird keyboard mapping
[03:26] <kitche> Kamui: spool is what holds the mail before it gets sent out
[03:26] <MugginsM> mista: the secondary MX needs to know it's your secondary
[03:27] <Telroth_Plushie|> sproingie, there was something on the internet about it being a error with the default
[03:27] <mista_> MugginsM, just setting 20 as priority or what?
[03:27] <voraistos> Arrick: check out #ubuntu-breezy
[03:27] <Telroth_Plushie|> i can't remember the page, and was simply asking here if anyone knew the answer
[03:27] <MugginsM> mista: yeah, if the main is 10
[03:27] <SpaceFrog_> ugh is my irc client working? sorry, im not sure if anyoens receiving my text
[03:27] <Arrick> thanks
[03:27] <MugginsM> mail is pretty broken these days though
[03:27] <mista_> MugginsM, it is
[03:27] <Telroth_Plushie|> SpaceFrog_, yes
[03:27] <SpaceFrog_> thankyou
[03:27] <kitche> SpaceFrog_: works it's easier if you use the nick if someone anwsers you
[03:27] <sproingie> SpaceFrog_: AGP is PCI
[03:27] <Kamui> kitche: ok, I think I better go do some background reading
[03:27] <MugginsM> a lot of bad mail software is out there :-/
[03:27] <Kamui> thanks for the intro kitche and mista_
[03:27] <sproingie> SpaceFrog_: it's a specialized PCI slot
[03:28] <MugginsM> like stuff that assumes your mail server is the same machine as your web server
[03:28] <mista_> Kamui, quite welcome
[03:28] <SpaceFrog_> sproingie: i see.
[03:28] <Admiral_Chicago> haven't been here in a while...i usually sit on #kubuntu
[03:28] <SpaceFrog_> I still cannot get my ATI drivers working in linux.
[03:28] <mista_> MugginsM, the hell? Hm, can't say I've seen that, but it's hardly surprising
[03:28] <Renan_s2> !info liferea
[03:28] <ubotu> liferea: feed aggregator for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.12-0ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 726 kB, installed size 2192 kB
[03:29] <kitche> MugginsM: it all depends on how you set it up :)
[03:29] <MugginsM> kitche: well the problem with mail is you need to communicate with stuff that you don't set up yourself :)
[03:29] <SpaceFrog_> Maybe it's because i have an older ATI card.. Anyone know where i can get legacy drivers?
[03:29] <TonySt> Please digg: http://digg.com/videos_music/Nine_Inch_Nails_DVD_Trailer_Leaked/
[03:30] <Admiral_Chicago> SpaceFrog_, you install the ATI drivers?
[03:30] <Admiral_Chicago> SpaceFrog_, 64bit?
[03:30] <SpaceFrog_> yeah. via apt-get
[03:30] <mista_> MugginsM, urgh, don't remind me
[03:30] <SpaceFrog_> no.
[03:30] <Admiral_Chicago> !ATI > SpaceFrog_
[03:30] <Admiral_Chicago> hope that helps
[03:30] <SpaceFrog_> Admiral_Chicago: I have an old card, 9200 PRO.
[03:30] <SpaceFrog_> thanks i'll look at that
[03:30] <mista_> MugginsM, had a hell of a lot of problems with an exchange server a customers customer was using, raised all sorts of hell.
[03:32] <mista_> Well, perhaps some day there will be standars, and people will be following them. That is after the rivers of honey, peace of all mankind, that sort of stuff.
[03:32] <MugginsM> standards are great, there are so many to choose from
[03:32] <mista_> hehe
[03:32] <detra> voraistos,
[03:32] <detra> voraistos, ??
[03:32] <the1> and even when there is one standard...sometime it is nice and convoluted..see ipsec
[03:32] <voraistos> detra, yes. u disapeared
[03:33] <mista_> Been thinking about running zimbra, have a Dell server laying about so I thought I might put it to use
[03:33] <detra> voraistos, Really ??? So you didn't get my print ?
[03:33] <MugginsM> zimbra looks nice
[03:33] <tjb891> are there any rules on what can be used as a forum picture?
[03:33] <voraistos> detra uh ? nope. are you registered with freenode ?
[03:33] <detra> voraistos, no ...
[03:33] <voraistos> detra. you cant pm me.
[03:33] <mista_> MugginsM, tried setting it up on my laptop, quite fast and easy. Just gonna try to run it live for a bit, so I know I can count on it.
[03:34] <voraistos> detra pretty bad
[03:34] <detra> voraistos, that's why ...
[03:34] <chen> 
[03:34] <voraistos> hum... go on #ubuntu-breezy
[03:34] <detra> voraistos, join #detra
[03:34] <sproingie> tjb891: keep it small, uanimated, legal, and tasteful, that's all
[03:34] <mista_> So that I can finally get rid of qmail.
[03:34] <voraistos> !cn
[03:34] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[03:34] <tjb891> can it be copyrighted by someelse?
[03:34] <sproingie> er, unanimated
[03:35] <Arrick> guys, I am installing a "server install" and I would like to set it up for a firewall, any suggestions for readmes and such?
[03:35] <Arrick> !firewall
[03:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[03:35] <sproingie> tjb891: no.  but if no one would possibly know, no one will actually care ;)
[03:35] <tjb891> ok, thx
[03:36] <mista_> well, about time for some sleep, good night people
[03:36] <SpaceFrog_> maybe i need to get the proprietary ATI drivers.. because my card is too old
[03:38] <cafg10> hi does any one knows how to configure a tv card, got one and can't make it work
[03:39] <selinuxium_> is there a way of seeing if a file is opened by another by another process?
[03:39] <the1> lsof
[03:40] <cafg10> my card is a sabrent SBT-TVFM with a 7134 chipset
[03:41] <aleka> simple(stupid) Question, for anyone with a free min >>> In keeping upto date with LInux Kernel updates, I have found out that my disk space in partion /boot is full. I had thought earlier versions were overwritten by latest versions>> How do I clean up my /boot ?
[03:41] <selinuxium_> the1: Cheers!
[03:41] <aleka> what file to get rid of and what to keep?
[03:41] <SpaceFrog_> does anyone advise against using the drivers from ATI.com ?
[03:42] <aleka> any active users??
[03:42] <tjb891> is there a command to view all clients on your lan?
[03:43] <kitche> aleka: the older versions will onyl be deleted if you delete them
[03:43] <Arrick> Hey guys, I want to set this up as a firewall, please give me some places to read up on it, I am using breezy
[03:43] <aleka> what repurcusions would that have?
[03:43] <the1> aleka: your /vmlinuz is a symbolic link to the kernel in /boot that is currently being used
[03:43] <tjb891> Arrick:use firestarter from synaptic to configure iptables
[03:44] <sproingie> aleka: you can remove the old versions with synaptic if you want
[03:44] <the1> aleka: same with /initrd.img
[03:44] <aleka> all the abi-2.6.xx files can be purged then?
[03:45] <Max_-> any counter-advices on this setup for my school and work laptop? : 2x 100GB in software RAID1 with some linux distro on it all.
[03:45] <Arrick> tjb891, I am doing the command line thing, I can edit the tables from my windows box, with winscp
[03:45] <Arrick> anything else i should know?
[03:45] <Megaqwerty> can anyone help me fix anything automatix may have done to my system?
[03:45] <Squatch> Anyone have a good recommendation for a decent C++ development environment that's available over Synaptic?
[03:45] <cafg10> anyone knows how to make the Sabrent SBT-TVFM TV card work
[03:45] <juggernaut1980> how can i get netmanager for to manage my wifi?
[03:45] <selinuxium_> Who can I rename all files in a folder to lower case?
[03:46] <selinuxium_> How even!
[03:46] <tjb891> Arrick:nothing i know except ubuntu comes with all ports closed by default
[03:46] <Megaqwerty> Squatch: use the highlight feature in gedit and then use g++ (available on synaptic) (gedit is already on your computer known as text editor in the menu) use g++ as your compiler
[03:47] <sproingie> g++ is a compiler, not an IDE
[03:47] <Arrick> yeah, tjb891 I knew that too, just cant remember much else other than that
[03:47] <sproingie> and he's gone anyway
[03:47] <Megaqwerty> oh sorry he needed an IDE?
[03:47] <Megaqwerty> oh he left
[03:47] <aleka> sprionge> where would I find these old instalations in synaptic then?
[03:47] <soniku> some1 wanna help me out?
[03:47] <tjb891> Arrick:mabey put a question on the forum jsut to make sure
[03:48] <Insomniac_psp> selinuxium: something like 'renamexm --lowcase --recursive name'
[03:48] <sproingie> probably.  i'd have said anjunta or kdevelop.  neither are great, but they're passable
[03:48] <Arrick> is DBO here tonight?
[03:48] <Megaqwerty> can anyone help with the automatix issue?
[03:48] <sproingie> aleka: they'll be called linux-image-*
[03:48] <MugginsM> eclipse isn't too bad if you have a fast machine
[03:48] <Arrick> DBO, ?
[03:48] <sproingie> MugginsM: it's terrible for C++
[03:48] <Arrick> what is eclipse?
[03:48] <sproingie> Arrick: a java IDE
[03:48] <Megaqwerty> an IDE
[03:48] <MugginsM> sproingie: ok, I've only ever used it for python
[03:49] <kitche> Megaqwerty: it's only for java though
[03:49] <sproingie> MugginsM: it's not too bad for python.
[03:49] <Megaqwerty> that's right
[03:49] <tom47> is anyone aware of a problem and fix for the flashplugin?
[03:49] <Megaqwerty> wait....no I don't think so
[03:49] <sproingie> kitche: it's primarily for java, it does do other languages.  none of them all that well.
[03:49] <Arrick> oh ok thanks sproingie
[03:49] <Megaqwerty> is there a way to get gaim to alert you when a specific person joins the irc channel?
[03:49] <kitche> sproingie: well the eclipse site says it's only for java :) even though people try to have it do other things
[03:50] <sproingie> the eclipse site does not claim it's *only* for java, and CDT is an official eclipse project
[03:50] <cafg10> well for an IDE you can try anjuta from universe
[03:50] <MugginsM> anjuta is pretty nice for C stuff, yeah
[03:50] <Arrick> !wiki
[03:50] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[03:51] <tom47> flash-plugin non-free .... anyone aware of a fix for this?
[03:51] <kitche> sproingie: CDT isn't on their project page
[03:51] <sethk> tom47, it isn't broken, so there isn't a fix.
[03:51] <sethk> tom47, nobody has an open source flash
[03:52] <tom47> sethk oh .....
[03:52] <the1> selinuxium_: for x in *; do mv $x `echo $x|tr [A-Z]  [a-z] `;  done;
[03:52] <tom47> both myself and a friend have the same problem since the update came out
[03:52] <osten> Hello, I need help with something that is possibly connected to perl
[03:52] <osten> I have followed some instructions
[03:52] <osten> And I apparently need XML::RAI
[03:53] <kitche> hey sethk: /dev/mouse0 must be a symlink to /dev/input/mouse0 sicne that was my problem I hanged /dev/mouse0 in my xorg.conf to /dev/input/mouse0 and it worked
[03:53] <Arrick> osten #perl
[03:53] <osten> Ok thanks
[03:53] <sethk> kitche, good to know.
[03:53] <sproingie> kitche: eclipse has a lot of pages.  their site is rather confusing
[03:53] <tom47> sethk ... we both got the update from ubuntu dapper-commercial trepository
[03:53] <kitche> tom47: you can use gnunash which is the open source version of flash but it doesn't work well
[03:53] <sethk> tom47, I don't think you really have a usable alternative
[03:53] <sethk> tom47, as kitche  said, doesn't work well
[03:54] <juggernaut1980> can i have some help getting netmanager to manage my wifi?
[03:54] <TheTruth> whats the time in USA pleease?
[03:54] <LOSTINC> I have an external USB Harddrive. How do I reach it in the console?
[03:54] <TheTruth> !time USA
[03:54] <ubotu> time: The GNU time program for measuring cpu resource usage. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7-21 (dapper), package size 31 kB, installed size 144 kB
[03:54] <juggernaut1980> 954pm
[03:54] <sethk> TheTruth, there are four time zones in the us
[03:54] <sethk> TheTruth, more if you count non-contiguous areas
[03:55] <the1> LOSTINC: cd /media/usbdisk/ I think
[03:55] <TheTruth> sethk: damn
[03:55] <tom47> TheTruth depending on the state it can be 2006 or 1614
[03:55] <TheTruth> damn
[03:55] <TheTruth> ok
[03:55] <LOSTINC> the1 yes thank you so much
[03:56] <TheTruth> infidel: God loves you :)
[03:56] <tom47> lol
[03:56] <TheTruth> tom47:  hehe
[03:56] <infidel> TheTruth, thank you brother
[03:56] <kitche> TheTruth: it's 20:00 on the eastern Coast of the USA
[03:57] <TheTruth> infidel: you are welcome ;)
[03:57] <TheTruth> kitche: as in 10pm?
[03:57] <TheTruth> kitche: as in 8pm?
[03:57] <Skarr> Help! I reinstalled windows after I accidently deleted it, so now I am making a dual boot for ubuntu and windows, but how do I rename my windows hard drive to C:\?
[03:57] <TheTruth> Skarr: accidently?
[03:57] <tom47> sethk just wondering whether there is an alternate channel for ubuntu support on the dapper-commercial re[pository???
[03:58] <MugginsM> meh. edgy broke my boot
[03:58] <sethk> tom47, don't know of one, no, sorry
[03:58] <kitche> TheTruth: 10 pm
[03:58] <Skarr> TheTruth: Long story...
[03:58] <etzerd> hello all
[03:58] <sethk> MugginsM, that's what unreleased software is for.  :)
[03:58] <etzerd> I have a question
[03:58] <tom47> sethk ty for your patience
[03:58] <MugginsM> sethk: oh yeah, I love the roller coaster :)
[03:58] <sethk> Skarr, it has to be your IDE primary master
[03:58] <jorgino> hi guys, i tried to install ubuntu on my pc, i got win me & win xp on there, and when i installed ubuntu, restarted, and i got this message : loading grub, error 21, by now i know how to fix it (fixmbr), but my questions is, how can i install ubuntu on mi pc, without getting that problem, thanks to anyone
[03:58] <kitche> Skarr: so it should be C:\ automatically since windows doesn't like being on second hard drive
[03:58] <TheTruth> kitche: so its 10pm in USA at some parts?
[03:59] <sethk> jorgino, when it asks whether to install the boot manager, say no
[03:59] <jorgino> perfect
[03:59] <kitche> TheTruth: yes all down the Eastern Coast of it and part of Indina
[03:59] <etzerd> How come company like Novell selling their Linux Suse when company like ubuntu, gentoo etc give it for free?
[03:59] <Skarr> kitche: Well, I haven't even installed ubuntu again yet, I just installed windows and my main hard disk is the newly named "h drive"
[03:59] <jorgino> thanks sethk, im gonna try it now
[03:59] <etzerd> is there something different in suse than the others?
[03:59] <jrib> etzerd: different business models?
[04:00] <LOSTINC> Im having a hard time deciding GNOME or KDE
[04:00] <LOSTINC> both rock
[04:00] <LOSTINC> both have good and bad
[04:00] <kitche> etzerd: because they can there, it doesn't break the GPL but those distros use copyrighted stuff so that's why they also charge but there is openSuse
[04:00] <TheTruth> kitche: is it 2am anywhere in USA?
[04:00] <LOSTINC> No
[04:00] <tom47> etzerd the answer to your question is not a short one
[04:00] <MugginsM> Suse has some nice tools for corporates too
[04:00] <etzerd> Wow tha's amazing
[04:00] <kitche> TheTruth: nope I m as far as the US goes so if it's 10 pm here everybody is back one hour or more
[04:00] <MugginsM> although it looks like Canonical are hiring people to develop equivalent tools for Ubuntu
[04:01] <Skarr> So, like I said earlier, how do I rename a hard disk
[04:01] <etzerd> for what I see suse is not better suited than ubuntu
[04:01] <Arrick> !ssh
[04:01] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:01] <etzerd> Before I discover ubuntu I bought the Version 10.0 of Suse.
[04:02] <kitche> etzerd: linux is all the same the onyl difference is the tools that the developer makes
[04:02] <MugginsM> Linux is not all the same :)
[04:02] <sethk> etzerd, IMO suse has deteriorated over the past few years
[04:02] <astro73> khubd (I think) is dumping messages to the current terminal on a regular basis. How do I stop it?
[04:02] <Skarr> 'Cause I need to name it C or my nvidia driver wont work.
[04:02] <TheTruth> kitche: well? what is it?
[04:02] <MugginsM> skarr: you might be better asking a Windows channel
[04:02] <etzerd> moreover they don't have a guide like ubuntu where you can copy and paste to DVD
[04:02] <kitche> MugginsM: umm they use the same programs like I said it's ease of use
[04:02] <sethk> Skarr, there is a reassign drive id function in windows
[04:02] <Skarr> MugginsM: Yeah... Yeah.
[04:02] <Skarr> '
[04:03] <Skarr> I'll just find a windows channel
[04:03] <sethk> Skarr, I think you'll find it in the disk manager tool, but I'm not a windows expert
[04:03] <typicalRunt> anyone install firefox-1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-ubuntu (today's apt-get upgrade).  For me, firefox menus (File,Edit,etc) aren't working anymore
[04:03] <TheTruth> kitche: ANSWER ME NOW OR ELSE!!!!!!!!!
[04:03] <MugginsM> kitche: Suse lets you configure networks of desktops a lot easier, Ubuntu doesn't fall into package hell as often, ease of use goes a long way :)
[04:03] <tom47> etzerd its really a matter of "horses for courses" ... something that suits one person or organistio perfectly may not quite meet the needs of another that a different distro may better address
[04:04] <TheTruth> typicalRunt: I installed firefox today and works fine
[04:04] <ladydoor> TheTruth: errr...threats aren't so productive
[04:04] <sethk> TheTruth, it's 10 pm eastern, 11 central, 12 mountain, 1 west
[04:04] <TheTruth> ladydoor: i was joking ;)
[04:04] <TheTruth> sethk: ok cheers :)
[04:04] <ladydoor> TheTruth: i figured...it was just kind of weird
[04:04] <TheTruth> ladydoor: define weird
[04:04] <Arrick> hey whats the command that you can replace apt-get with, aptitude?
[04:04] <jrib> isn't it earlier to the west?
[04:04] <TheTruth> Arrick: why u aptitude?
[04:04] <ladydoor> TheTruth: dunno. i'm tired
[04:04] <etzerd> thanks for your answers guys.
[04:04] <kitche> sethk: it's 10 pm eastern central is 9 mountain is 8 and west is 7
[04:04] <MugginsM> aptitude gives you a nice menu driven interface to apt-get
[04:05] <Skarr> The only help channel I could find was one and it said "Windows = .......REALLY stupid => GO TO #linpeople for Linux support"
[04:05] <TheTruth> ladydoor: why are on IRC if you are tired?
[04:05] <momal> Does anyone use the amd64-k8 kernel?
[04:05] <sethk> kitche, ok, if you want to quibble  :)
[04:05] <ladydoor> TheTruth: because i'm an insomniac
[04:05] <ladydoor> TheTruth: yay!!!
[04:05] <MugginsM> heh, new linux-image shortly after the last one, methinks I'm not the only one who Edgy broke
[04:05] <Arrick> TheTruth, cause I like it
[04:05] <TheTruth> ladydoor: define insomniac
[04:05] <botxj> does the compiz tarball in the ubuntu pool have all the compiz, compiz-gnome, compiz-core, and all that crap in it?
[04:05] <sethk> TheTruth, I did it backwards.  which is dumb, since I was on the west coast a couple of days ago.  :)
[04:05] <kitche> sethk: nah just waiting to do some programming :)
[04:05] <TheTruth> Arrick: what can you do with it that you cant with apt-get?
[04:05] <ladydoor> TheTruth: ummm...someone with insomnia
[04:05] <TheTruth> sethk: ;)
[04:05] <TheTruth> ladydoor: define insomnia
[04:06] <ladydoor> TheTruth: quit it, please.
[04:06] <tom47> TheTruth isn't it somewhere near bosnia?
[04:06] <voraistos> hey guys, wht is ssh port ?
[04:06] <momal> 22
[04:06] <voraistos> cheers
[04:06] <botxj> anybody here know aboutt he compiz tarball?
[04:06] <Arrick> voraistos, is is secure shell?
[04:07] <Skarr> !ssh
[04:07] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:07] <voraistos> yes
[04:07] <simtower> hello?
[04:07] <sethk> simtower, are you on a telephone?
[04:07] <momal> umm does anyone have any idea how I can get this: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/base/linux-image-2.6.15-26-amd64-k8 | to show in my repos ? because it doesn't :S
[04:07] <simtower> sethk, i don't have a telephone+
[04:07] <tom47> simtower just speak up with what you seek
[04:07] <sethk> simtower, then maybe "hello" is not the best thing to say.  :)
[04:08] <simtower> sethk: sorry, i am not experience with ubuntu
[04:08] <sethk> simtower, just kidding, but you'll have better results if you ask a question
[04:08] <Arrick> voraistos, port 22
[04:08] <simtower> okay =)
[04:09] <SpacePuppy> !ati
[04:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:09] <decherdtt> !kernels-daily > decherdtt
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernels-daily - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <pinPoint> anyone familiar with this error?
[04:10] <pinPoint> WARNING: No /usr/pkgsrc/pkgsrc/distfiles/pkg-vulnerabilities file found.
[04:10] <pinPoint> after an attempt at make?
[04:11] <sethk> pinPoint, attempting to make what?
[04:11] <sethk> pinPoint, it's looking for something you haven't installed, but I can't tell what just from that.
[04:11] <kitche> pinPoint-sethk: it seems to be looking for pkgsrc which is a BSD thing
[04:12] <aliendream23> hello, I have a wireless issue. I am using a linksys wmp54g on another comp, I got it working to a degree, it will ping, and be pinged by other comps, access the router, and shows connection in the network manager and all, just it won't actually connect to the internet in any way. Can anyone help?
[04:12] <sethk> kitche, I've seen people use parts of that system in other environments
[04:12] <kitche> sethk: well it can work in linux also
[04:12] <MugginsM> alien: sounds like it might be a problem with a security setting.  are you using WAP or WEP?
[04:12] <sethk> kitche, right, but only if it is installed  :)
[04:13] <aliendream23> wep. as far as I can tell, i have the correct setting
[04:13] <sethk> MugginsM, alien,  if he can ping from the command line, it isn't security
[04:13] <Arrick> how do i logoff in terminal?
[04:13] <sethk> MugginsM, if the security is wrong he won't be able to ping
[04:13] <sethk> Arrick, you mean exit the shell?  exit
[04:13] <sethk> Arrick, the terminal is just a display thing.  the shell is what you are actually running.
[04:13] <Arrick> thanks
[04:13] <aliendream23> I just pinged the 'sich comp' from here and get no packet loss
[04:13] <MugginsM> ah right, I've never been able to get my wireless going with linux :-/
[04:14] <Arrick> sethk, thanks
[04:14] <sethk> aliendream23, check the routing
[04:14] <sethk> Arrick, np
[04:14] <Arrick> sethk, where are iptables located by default?
[04:14] <Arrick> !iptables
[04:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[04:14] <sethk> Arrick,  I'll check
[04:14] <sethk> Arrick, /sbin
[04:15] <aliendream23> the router, was in there a bit ago, everything is set up well. I even tried to dmz the 'sick comp' and that didn't work
[04:15] <sethk> Arrick, I assume you mean the iptables program, not it's data files
[04:15] <kitche> hmm ubotu description for firestarter should be editted a bit
[04:15] <sethk> s/it's/its/
[04:15] <Arrick> I want to setup this box as a firewall sethk,
[04:15] <sethk> Arrick, ok
[04:16] <sethk> Arrick, you want to set up things yourself, or use a tool that makes it easier but hides the details?
[04:16] <Arrick> sethk, no gui
[04:16] <sethk> Arrick, ok
[04:16] <Arrick> but I need easy
[04:16] <sethk> Arrick, easy is so subjective.  I find iptables easy, but not everyone does.
[04:16] <Arrick> (forgot most of what I knew aout breezy in te last year)
[04:16] <sethk> Arrick, do you have a good grasp of networking and routing and such?
[04:16] <Arrick> yeah
[04:17] <Arrick> I would like to edit it from a windows box as well
[04:17] <sethk> Arrick, install the cygwin toolkit on windows.  then you can ssh in to the linux box
[04:18] <Arrick> I am sshed into the box right now sethk
[04:18] <sethk> Arrick, there are other ways to ssh in, but I prefer cygwin because the commands are identical on windows and linux.
[04:18] <Arrick> with putty
[04:18] <sethk> Arrick, ok, to set up iptables all you need is a shell and vi
[04:18] <Arrick> identical
[04:18] <astro73> I keep getting "[number]  hub 1-0:1.0: over-current change on port 1" on the current terminal. How do I kill it?
[04:18] <Arrick> ok
[04:18] <sethk> Arrick, no, not identical, but perfectly ok
[04:18] <Arrick> is vi installed by default?
[04:18] <sethk> Arrick, by identical I mean that on both sides you ssh by typing    ssh user@whatever
[04:18] <Arrick> oh
[04:18] <Arrick> yeah
[04:18] <sethk> Arrick, but that's not necessary, it's just a preference
[04:18] <charles__> anyone want to help a complete ubuntu newb with simple issues?
[04:18] <Arrick> I can do that from regular comand
[04:19] <kitche> Arrick: think vim is
[04:19] <sethk> charles__, ask a question, don't ask whether to ask a question
[04:19] <sethk> Arrick, vim is installed.  elvis may be also.
[04:19] <sethk> Arrick, there is an alias to vi, so you can run vi
[04:19] <kitche> think vi is easy vim but not sure
[04:19] <sethk> Arrick, the gui version of vim is a separate package, but it sounds like you don't care about that version.
[04:19] <Arrick> ok, vi is not wokring, how do I exit it, its all giberish on the screen
[04:20] <charles__> I can't get my sound card to work with unbuntu and i don't know where to start
[04:20] <sethk> Arrick, :q!
[04:20] <sethk> Arrick, that's   colon   q    !
[04:20] <sethk> Arrick, if that doesn't work, then:    esc   esc   :q!
[04:20] <sethk> Arrick, with cygwin you won't have that problem.  :)
[04:20] <Arrick> ok
[04:20] <sethk> Arrick, with putty you have to set the TERM environment variable to whatever putty is emulating.
[04:20] <Arrick> where do i get it from?
[04:20] <sethk> Arrick, try vt100
[04:21] <sethk> Arrick, cygwin?  I'll get the url
[04:21] <sethk> Arrick, but you can probably set it up in putty just by doing;     export TERM=vt100
[04:21] <pinPoint> sethk, transcode
[04:21] <sethk> Arrick, then try vi again.
[04:21] <sethk> Arrick, other things to try for TERM are:   ansi    and     xterm
[04:21] <sethk> pinPoint, I forgot what we were talking about.
[04:21] <pinPoint> make
[04:21] <pinPoint> WARNING: No /usr/pkgsrc/pkgsrc/distfiles/pkg-vulnerabilities file found.
[04:21] <momal> whats a repo I can add to make apt-get show every package in the ubuntu archieve?
[04:22] <pinPoint> was trying to make transcode
[04:22] <sethk> Arrick, www.cygwin.com
[04:22] <Max_->  hummmm.. how do you get the execute prompt in gnome?!?!
[04:22] <sethk> pinPoint, sounds like you downloaded a package designed for the freebsd (or netbsd, or some other bsd) package manager.
[04:22] <sethk> pinPoint, for ubuntu, you'll need either an ubuntu package, or a source tarball
[04:23] <pinPoint> ok
[04:23] <MugginsM> max: Applications->Accessories->Terminal    I think
[04:23] <sethk> Arrick, there is probably a configuration in putty where you can set what terminal it emulates
[04:23] <MugginsM> well, on my version of Gnome
[04:23] <sethk> Max_-, you can also do    alt-f2   and then type    gnome-terminal
[04:23] <MugginsM> also a trick that people seem to miss is, in gnome you can drag menu entries onto the panel and they shortcut it :)
[04:24] <sethk> Max_-, but that's just for people like me who hate menus
[04:24] <sethk> MugginsM, yes, that's much better.
[04:24] <Max_-> great, thanks!
[04:24] <JoseStefan> is flashplugin-nonfree installable without the need for backports? or is it useless?
[04:24] <Max_-> and like me
[04:24] <Arrick> sethk, i have the following options
[04:24] <sethk> Max_-, putting a shortcut on the panel is a good idea as MugginsM suggested
[04:25] <Arrick> vt400, linux, xterm R6, vt100+ and SCO
[04:25] <Arrick> sethk, ^
[04:25] <Dragon1> test
[04:25] <Max_-> sethk yes, but haven't found it in the menu.. :S
[04:25] <sethk> Arrick, try setting putty to "linux" and not changing TERM on the linux side, and see if that works.  (unless that's what you already tried)
[04:25] <Arrick> got it sethk
[04:25] <sethk> Arrick, good
[04:25] <charles__> i'm trying to intstall a software to /usr/local/games/enemy-territory  and it says No write permission to /usr/local/games/ what does this mean?
[04:26] <Skarr> OK, I know this is ubuntu help, but this si for me to be able to install ubuntu: SO I went to the disk manager and tried changing it but it says that it canat rename a boot volume or system volume
[04:26] <sethk> Max_-, I use kde, so I can't tell you anything about gnome.  with kde you right click on the panel to add a shortcut to the panel.  I imagine gnome has something very similar
[04:26] <sethk> Skarr, indeed, windows is a royal PITA
[04:26] <sethk> Skarr, can't you reinstall your nvidia driver so it thinks it is drive d:, or whatever?
[04:26] <Max_-> sethk, yes, just like you said, but ... I had trouble finding the icon.. anyway.. with alt-F2 I should be okay
[04:26] <Skarr> sethk: why do you think i got ubuntu ;)
[04:27] <unix_infidel> hey guys, anyone here using vim7 deps or vim7 compiled on their system.
[04:27] <HumpMasterH> hi how can i play a wmv video?/??
[04:27] <JoseStefan> charles__, you probably need to use sudo
[04:27] <unix_infidel> in dapper, of course, not edgy.
[04:27] <Skarr> sethk: no when I open the exe it says "drive c doesnt exist"
[04:27] <bur[n] er> HumpMasterH: w32codecs
[04:27] <sethk> Skarr, you mean the install program says that?
[04:27] <HumpMasterH> doesnt work....anything else?
[04:27] <Skarr> sethk: yes
[04:27] <Arrick> sethk, no i didnt
[04:27] <sethk> Skarr, hmm.  I don't have an answer for that, at least not off the top of my head.
[04:28] <Skarr> OK
[04:28] <MugginsM> mplayer or vlc with w32codecs installed seems to play nearly every wmv I've tried
[04:28] <unix_infidel> Been trying to find some debs or a decent how-to on vim7 compile that provides atleast binaries for deps or gives specific instructions on compiling them.
[04:28] <sethk> Arrick, try vt100 on the putty side,  and do   export TERM=vt100     on the linux side
[04:28] <Skarr> well I also posted on annoyances.org so hopefully that will come through for me
[04:29] <detra> Hey just wondering ... Does anybody have any connections to the american embassy ... Like relatives or something ...
[04:29] <sethk> detra, it might help to know what country you are in.   :)
[04:29] <detra> sethk, Im from denmark ... I live in vancouver, canada at the moment ...
[04:30] <unix_infidel> detra: i seriously that's on topic here.
[04:30] <unix_infidel> seriously doubt*
[04:30] <kitche> unix_infidel: think ubuntu has a wiki thing for packaging since compiling vim7 is easy
[04:30] <detra> unix_infidel, I know ... Just wondering ...
[04:30] <unix_infidel> kitche: you happen to have the URL handy?
[04:30] <Arrick> hey sethk which release do I want for cygwin?
[04:30] <Skarr> If linux is supposed to be better and easier why is it so confusing?
[04:30] <Skarr> Packages, tarballls etc
[04:31] <Skarr> I don't even know how to install a simple program on it
[04:31] <unix_infidel> Skarr: you've obviously never installed anything more than an exe on windows.
[04:31] <p0wrd_8y_ap4thy> Skarr: i could write a paper on that topic ;)
[04:31] <p0wrd_8y_ap4thy> ...where should i start?
[04:31] <p0wrd_8y_ap4thy> ;)
[04:31] <Tokenbad> ok here is a question...why would you have a tar.gz file...and have par2 files...and then when you try to fix it...it says like 1578 blocks out of 1579 blocks....then when the repair is done says like 1576 blocks out of 1579...so its like in the repair its making it worse
[04:31] <seer> can anyone help with raid setup after install?
[04:32] <sethk> Skarr, first of all, who said it is "supposed" to be better?  it is different
[04:32] <sethk> Skarr, if you want something that doesn't require learning, go with osx
[04:32] <p0wrd_8y_ap4thy> Tokenbad: you're using ubuntu.....u rarely need to mess w/ tarballs
[04:32] <unix_infidel> anyone for the vim question ( kitche ) ??
[04:32] <p0wrd_8y_ap4thy> ...unless you're converting them to debs
[04:32] <Skarr> sethk: No, I like it. It's just that I guess it has a steep learning curb?
[04:32] <selinuxium_> the1: Sorry, just tried your command for changing to lower case and it failed.
[04:33] <kitche> unix_infidel: no I do not
[04:33] <p0wrd_8y_ap4thy> ...but u can of course go to the way-too-difficult task of apt-getting build tools if u really want
[04:33] <seer>  /dev/md0 does nto exist and when i create it is is not there after reboot
[04:33] <jifjosh> General KPPP question: I am dual booting my computer, (Currently on the Windows partition :-(
[04:33] <Skarr> unix_infidel: Nope, just exe's, rar's, etc
[04:34] <unix_infidel> Skarr: then why are you complaining.
[04:34] <unix_infidel> installing things that are really powerful for windows are MUCH more involved than for linux.
[04:34] <Skarr> unix_infidel: Kkk
[04:34] <MugginsM> especially if you're running a PPC machine
[04:34] <sethk> unix_infidel, I've built vim from source many times.  are you having a specific problem?
[04:34] <jifjosh> General KPPP Question: I try to install KPPP, but it said it isn't compatable with my system
[04:34] <Skarr> Woo I got it working
[04:34] <unix_infidel> sethk: not specifically, i'm at the, how do i do it stage.
[04:34] <unix_infidel> sethk: you know of a good tutorial.
[04:34] <Skarr> I just made it so that it doesnt self extract
[04:35] <sethk> unix_infidel, it's very very simple.  especially if you only want the command line version
[04:35] <jifjosh> I can't access the internet on the Ubuntu side until I get the dialup program working
[04:35] <bthornton> Is there a password manager (for saved password) for GNOME?  If so, how do I get to it?  I think I had it save an incorrect password.
[04:35] <sethk> unix_infidel, it's just three or four steps, so I doubt there is a tutorial.
[04:35] <unix_infidel> sethk: nono, i'm looking for vim-gnome/gtk/python/perl
[04:35] <Skarr> !unix
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <sethk> unix_infidel, that's just as easy, _if_ you have all the required libraries and headers
[04:35] <dave_dan> can anyone lead me in a good direction for how to add a service to the service manager in dapper with gnome desktop
[04:36] <Skarr> what is the difference between unix and linux?
[04:36] <unix_infidel> Skarr: i would recommend looking at wikipedia and some reference sites first.
[04:36] <sagar> how come i cant install w32codecs? i have the appropriate reps enabled
[04:36] <kitche> Skarr: the commands and how they act with devices and such
[04:37] <tjb891> is there a way to download a embeded .mp3 off a webpage
[04:37] <Arrick> where oh where did all the breezy users go?
[04:37] <jbu> can someone tell me if I need to install wine before installing a flash plugin or is there a way to do it without installing wine?
[04:37] <sethk> unix_infidel, try it.  worst thing that happens is that configure complains that this, that, or the other thing is missing.
[04:37] <Arrick> hey was gedit included in the default server install of breezy?
[04:37] <kitche> tjb891: yea rip the webpage apart so you know what the filename is
[04:37] <sethk> jbu, has nothing to do with wine
[04:37] <JoseStefan> Arrick, dapper?
[04:37] <Arrick> nope breezy
[04:37] <tjb891> ok
[04:38] <sethk> jbu, you can install wine all day and it won't give you flash in linux
[04:38] <jbu> sethk: ok thanks
[04:38] <JoseStefan> Arrick, where did they go = dapper
[04:38] <sethk> jbu, flash is available for linux, though
[04:38] <jbu> sethk: how come synaptic doesn't have flash listed
[04:38] <MugginsM> flash is only available for *some* linux
[04:38] <Skarr> The dick on annoyances said that I did something wrong in installation! There is no option to name the drives in installation
[04:38] <Arrick> nope JoseStefan Im talking about people like _jason, Nickrud, Idle0ne, and such
[04:38] <sethk> jbu, because it's a browser plug in, I imagine.
[04:38] <Skarr> MugginsM: Is it avalable for unix?
[04:39] <kitche> MugginsM: it's available for all linux you have to use nswrapperplugin to work on x86_64 though
[04:39] <MugginsM> "unix" isn't a particular system
[04:39] <sethk> Skarr, same answer, for some flavors and platforms of unix
[04:39] <MugginsM> kitche: not on PPC
[04:39] <sethk> MugginsM, sure it is
[04:39] <MugginsM> or Sparc
[04:39] <Skarr> Woops
[04:39] <sethk> MugginsM, there are two currently deployed variants, but unix most certainly is a specific operating system.
[04:39] <Skarr> I meant
[04:39] <Maxx01> hey... i cant install compiz-manager or cgwd, even though i have included all 4 or the quinn repositories... any suggestions?
[04:39] <Skarr> MugginsM: is it availble for ubuntu?
[04:39] <JoseStefan> flash from the dapper repo is not currently working, due to changes on the adobe server, afaik
[04:39] <kitche> MugginsM: sure it is you never used emulation before
[04:39] <MugginsM> "UNIX" is a trademarked term for an OS with a specific history, Linux is an implementation that clones UNIX, but isn't legally UNIX
[04:39] <Skarr> 'Cause I'm a flash develeoper
[04:39] <sethk> MugginsM, indeed, but that doesn't mean that unix doesn't exist.
[04:40] <Skarr> Who can't spel lat the moment
[04:40] <MugginsM> flash is available for OSX, which is technically UNIX I think
[04:40] <seer> can someone please tell me how to create /dev/md0 for software raid?
[04:40] <jifjosh> I believe OSX is also based off of UNIX
[04:40] <sethk> MugginsM, yes, as it's derived from BSD which was originally an AT&T release
[04:40] <kitche> OSX is BSD
[04:40] <MugginsM> kitche: point me to an emulator that runs on Ubuntu PPC that can emulate anything that runs flash
[04:40] <sethk> well, an AT&T release enhanced by UCB
[04:41] <seer> tried mknode but md0 is not there after reboot
[04:41] <MugginsM> ok, bochs possibly can run x86 linux which may be able to run flash 9
[04:41] <kitche> MugginsM: umm install gnuash it not great but works
[04:41] <kitche> MugginsM: flash 9 isn't out yet
[04:41] <Arrick> DBO, ?
[04:41] <MugginsM> by "flash" I believe I mean what most people mean, which is "watch stuff on youtube"  :)
[04:42] <kitche> MugginsM: try gnuash it might run youtube videos now
[04:42] <sethk> MugginsM, I thought you were planning to open your raincoat when you weren't wearing anything underneath it
[04:43] <jifjosh> Ubuntu says that KPPP isn't compatible? Why is ti doing this?
[04:43] <jbroome> it hates you
[04:43] <sethk> jifjosh, possibly because it isn't compatible?
[04:43] <sethk> jifjosh, tell us what you are doing, exactly.
[04:44] <jifjosh> t'was copatable on the live cd
[04:44] <Tokenbad> besides fsck is there any other drive scanner for linux?
[04:44] <sethk> Tokenbad, fsck is not a drive scanner
[04:44] <sethk> Tokenbad, badblocks is a drive scanner
[04:44] <jifjosh> I installed ubuntu thinking KPPP would automatically become available
[04:44] <sethk> Tokenbad, fsck is a file system rebuilding tool.  has nothing to do with bad sectors and such.
[04:45] <MugginsM> "gnuash" is that how you spell it?  can't find any links on google or versions in ubuntu repositories
[04:45] <sethk> jifjosh, don't you have a ppp implementation that you can use in the package manager?
[04:45] <Tokenbad> ok need a program called badblocks?
[04:45] <sethk> jifjosh, there is certainly support for ppp.
[04:45] <tristil> Anyone have any luck with the touchpad on MacBook in Edgy or otherwise?
[04:45] <Skarr> Hey guys, the driver worked
[04:45] <sethk> Tokenbad, if what you need to do is scan a drive for bad sectors, then yes, badblocks is the program to do it.
[04:45] <Skarr> Now my refresh rate is more than 40!
[04:45] <sethk> Tokenbad, I'll check which repository it's in.
[04:45] <jifjosh> If i do, i have no clue where it is, I jsut got my discs in the mail today
[04:46] <Tokenbad> sethk, seems I have it...just got to figure out how to use it
[04:46] <kitche> MugginsM: well it's probably not in the repos due to that it's not stable yet
[04:46] <Trae> Please inspect:  /dev/.static (directory)  /dev/.udev (directory)  /dev/.initramfs (directory)   <--   I ran rkhunter -c  and got that.  Anyone know what those are for?
[04:46] <Skarr> !freebsd
[04:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freebsd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:46] <Skarr> !Skarr
[04:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Skarr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:46] <MugginsM> kitche: I'm fine with source code, but not if I can't find it :)
[04:46] <sethk> Tokenbad, the default mode is very easy.  it's read only.  If it doesn't find anything, then you can try some of the other modes but of course be careful with destructive modes
[04:46] <Skarr> !games
[04:46] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[04:47] <unix_infidel> sethk: did you do apt-get remove --purge vim first before compiling from cvs?
[04:47] <bthornton> You know how Nautilus asks you if you want to save passwords for things?  How can I fix having given it a bad password?
[04:47] <sethk> unix_infidel, no
[04:47] <Tokenbad> sethk, so just run like badblocks /dev/hdd1
[04:47] <unix_infidel> sethk: just installed on top of the regular binary?
[04:47] <unix_infidel> erm 6.4 binary?
[04:47] <sethk> unix_infidel, if you build from source with the default destination it will install to /usr/local and the two versions will not step on each other.
[04:47] <kitche> MugginsM: it's Gnash sorry :(
[04:47] <sethk> unix_infidel, then you should make two aliases, one for /usr/bin/vim and another for /usr/local/bin/vim
[04:48] <Skarr> !Synaptic
[04:48] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[04:48] <sethk> unix_infidel, you can use the --prefix=/usr   with configure it you want it to step on your binary.
[04:48] <MugginsM> kitche: thanks, downloading :)
[04:48] <unix_infidel> sethk: hmm, ahh, ok.
[04:48] <jifjosh> sethk, If i do, i have no clue where it is, I jsut got my discs in the mail today
[04:48] <sethk> unix_infidel, but I think keeping them separate is wiser.
[04:48] <jifjosh> sethk, the PPP that is
[04:48] <sethk> jifjosh, yes, I saw it the first time.
[04:48] <sethk> jifjosh, where did you get kppp from?
[04:48] <unix_infidel> sethk: yea, alias sounds good to me, thanks.
[04:49] <grouchytim_> what's a good easy to use cd burner?
[04:49] <osten> is there anything I can do when 'make test' fails?
[04:49] <sethk> grouchytim_, nero?
[04:49] <Skarr> Why the hell is there a Wine for windows?
[04:49] <sethk> grouchytim_, oh, you mean on linux?  :)   try k3b
[04:49] <MugginsM> nautilus is pretty decent for burning files to CD
[04:49] <grouchytim_> lol yeah linux
[04:49] <jbu> can someone help? i'm new to linux, and looking for my mozilla plugin directory.  According to this site it says the /opt directory is for programs but that folder is empty, where would mozilla's plugin dir be?
[04:49] <sethk> Skarr, it's an emulator.  why shouldn't it run under windows?
[04:49] <grouchytim_> k3b do iso and data too?
[04:50] <Arrick> unix_infidel, sethk help out JimmiJones will you please?
[04:50] <Skarr> sethk:  WHy would someone need to run a windows emulator under windows?
[04:50] <jifjosh> sethk, sorry for seeming rude, just a little crazy in here, i was trying to access it from the ubuntu disc, but the system is trying to access the internet. catch 22, it can't connect to the internet without the kppp which it needs to connect to get. blows the mind!
[04:50] <Arrick> connection problem
[04:50] <sethk> grouchytim_, I'm not sure how you do iso with k3b.  I do iso from the command line which is much easier than trying to get some gui thing to do it.
[04:50] <MugginsM> wow, didn't have cvs installed. what a trip.
[04:50] <Arrick> !gedit
[04:50] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[04:50] <sethk> jifjosh, yes, but I'm confused.  why kppp?  are you using kde?
[04:50] <MugginsM> skarr: running stuff in an emulator is a good way to try development versions of things
[04:50] <Skarr> MugginsM: ohhh
[04:51] <JimmiJones> ping dbo
[04:51] <tgelter> hey guys. If I have a swap partition that isn't being used (maybe my system doesn't know it's there?) what do I need to do to get it up and running?
[04:51] <kromel> Can anyone point me where I can find out why when I try to update, after the scanning system, it restarts Gnome.
[04:51] <MugginsM> or run IE7 and IE6 and IE5 in parallel
[04:51] <jifjosh> sethk, honestly, im not sure, im using whatever the default ubuntu setup is using
[04:51] <tgelter> kromel: have you tried updating  w/ aptitude?
[04:51] <brosnan> jbu: /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[04:51] <sethk> jifjosh, that's gnome
[04:51] <sethk> jifjosh, unless you have the kubuntu cd rather than the ubuntu cd
[04:51] <jbu> brosnan: thanks
[04:51] <Skarr> Ok, I need some help on Wine. I'm using wine to be able to use my internet adapter, but it seems I need to use the internet to install it!
[04:52] <Arrick> hahah
[04:52] <Arrick> that is a proble
[04:52] <Arrick> m
[04:52] <jifjosh> sethk, so i jsut switch it and then im golden, I know where to change from KDE to GNOME
[04:52] <jifjosh> sethk, im using an Ubuntu cd
[04:52] <DBO> JimmiJones?
 got a really weird connection prob, someone suggested you
[04:53] <sethk> jifjosh, try it, hopefully the gnome installation doesn't have this circular dependency bug
[04:53] <DBO> JimmiJones, ok Ill see what I can work out, im kinda busy, but hit me with it anyhow
[04:53] <JimmiJones> upgraded today from BB to DD and now I can't get the box back on the network for nuthin
[04:53] <Arrick> sethk, thanks for trying to help, I guess I am just going to go back to all windows (again because I cant seem to get what I need for ubuntu to run properly, be it breezy or dapper either one) which is the reason I switched in the first place, due to lack of support (mainly printers at that time)
[04:54] <JimmiJones> I upgraded over the internet
[04:54] <jifjosh> sethk, thanks, im going to go try that now, hopefully I won't be back ;-)
[04:54] <DBO> JimmiJones, does the interface show up on ifconfig?
[04:54] <Arrick> DBO, how nice to see you
[04:54] <DBO> hi Arrick =)
[04:54] <RMorris84> hey everyone... i just did a apt-get update / dist-upgrade, and it said i had to do a restart, well when i did my wireless isnt working anymore, i have a broadcom 4311 setup with ndiswrapper, and now im having to use a eth cord :( is there something simple i could check before i try and redo this all?
 yep
[04:54] <ray`> hi
[04:55] <Skarr> On http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb it says that I need to enter some URL for me to be able to install Wine
[04:55] <DBO> JimmiJones, is it getting an IP?
[04:55] <Arrick> DBO, I am trying to get a box setup for a firewall using breezy server, but I cant seem to get anywhere
[04:55] <DBO> Arrick, where are you having issues?
[04:55] <MugginsM> ah crap, I hate autoconf stuff
[04:56] <tgelter> what my swap entry in fstab supposed to look like? (an example)
[04:56] <sethk> Arrick, I told you exactly how to get completely around your problem, and you didn't do it.
 nope, dhclient tells me that it can't find an offer
[04:56] <brian98> Can anyone help me, x keeps hanging and it's only when I'm using rdesktop but I need to use it a lot.... I've seen other people talking about it on google but I haven't found a solution yet! Anyone any ideas :) ?
[04:56] <DBO> JimmiJones, have you tried giving it a static IP?
[04:56] <jorgino> sethk, hi, it's me again
[04:56] <brian98> It's killing me!!!
[04:56] <Skarr> Should I just download wine and have it say: deb <firectory> dapper main
[04:56] <sethk> jorgino, high.  remind me what we were talking about.  :)
[04:56] <jorgino> i tryed it
 it keeps falling back to a previous lease, giving it a static doesn't solve the problem either.
[04:56] <ray`> I have a problem with PostgreSQL-8.1 on Breezy, when it starts it asks for 'postgres' user password (3 times). as a consequence, it does not start at boot time. any hint?
[04:56] <Arrick> sethk, I tried that, and even asked you what version to get from cygwin, and didnt get an anser, the thing keeps showing up like gibberish, no matter what i try
[04:57] <sethk> Arrick, you could not have installed cygwin, it takes a while
[04:57] <DBO> JimmiJones, is this a wired or a wireless network?
[04:57] <JimmiJones> wired
[04:57] <THX-1138> Ska, Grab a copy of cedega it handles cd copyprotections and directX more gracefully.
[04:57] <jorgino> ok, i tryed to install ubuntu on my pc, i got win me & win xp, so when i installed i got this, grub loading, error 21
[04:57] <sethk> Arrick, go to that site, click on "install cygwin".  then change  "default" to "all" on the first line of the selection dialog, and go.
[04:57] <Arrick> I cant figure out which version from that site you sent me too, only about 60 of them
 tulip compatible card
[04:57] <sethk> Arrick, click default _once_ and wait, it takes a while to change.
[04:57] <philipsmith> I used Synaptic to install LIFELINES, the geneology software. However, I don't see it in the applications list, and can't get it to start by brining up a unix window and typing in l
[04:57] <jorgino> i do fixmbr
[04:57] <sethk> Arrick, there is only one.  I just looked
[04:57] <Arrick> www.cygwin.com?
[04:57] <jorgino> and i fixed it
[04:57] <philipsmith> 'lifelines'
[04:58] <sethk> Arrick, www.cygin.com, on the right, first thing,  "install cygwin now"
[04:58] <Tokenbad> sethk, so just run like badblocks /dev/hdd1....when you run it does it say anything
[04:58] <jorgino> u told me to do don't load grubb on mbr
[04:58] <jorgino> i did it so
[04:58] <DBO> JimmiJones, ok let me see your kernel log in pastebin please
[04:58] <Arrick> ok found it
[04:58] <sethk> Tokenbad, no, not /dev/hdd1, that's a partition.  you want to run it on a device, /dev/hdd
[04:59] <jorgino> but i need to load it anyways and any of partitions, so i try it in all of them
[04:59] <no_dog> is there any way that I can install ubuntu without booting the install CD? for some reason, I can't get it to boot on my new computer
 would love to, but I am on an xp machine do you have a suggestion on an easy way of getting it there from the ubuntu box that I can't connect to?
[04:59] <Tokenbad> sethk, ok...does it say anything while its running?
[04:59] <tgelter> hey, would someone mind opening their fstab and pasting the swap line?
[04:59] <unix_infidel> someone convince sf.net to stop hosting p2p apps so they can actually support apps that provide real functionality.
[04:59] <jorgino> but it doesnt works anyways
[04:59] <unix_infidel> instead of being down all the time.
[04:59] <sethk> Tokenbad, with the default switches, I believe not unless it finds something.
[04:59] <DBO> JimmiJones, oh good point, did not think of that...
[04:59] <Arrick> hey sethk do I want it to setup with unix / binary or with dos /text ?
[04:59] <brian98> Can anyone help me, x keeps hanging and it's only when I'm using rdesktop but I need to use it a lot.... I've seen other people talking about it on google but I haven't found a solution yet! Anyone any ideas :) ?
[04:59] <DBO> JimmiJones, you got a thumb drive?
[04:59] <THX-1138> phillipsmith - take a look in the files included section of synaptic. for lifelines.
[04:59] <sethk> Arrick, unix
[05:00] <Arrick> ok
[05:00] <tgelter> brian98: have you tried using krdc?
[05:00] <THX-1138> phillipsmith - the alacarte menu editor can make the rest easy.
[05:00] <brian98> tgelter: no -  can it connect to rdp connections?
 yep, kernel logs are a bit past me though. I tend to do better with things that apply to *dows as well, like networking. So I will need a little hand holding if you don't mind.
[05:00] <Ruckus> Does any one know how to make the X-Chat channel users window come back? its disapeard and i cant seem to figure out how to bring it back :\
[05:01] <tgelter> brian98: that's what I use at work to connect remotely to other machines
[05:01] <sethk> Ruckus, there is a bar with dots in it on the right edge.  drag it to the left
[05:01] <THX-1138> Ruckus - It was handy.
[05:01] <brian98> tgelter: just installed it now
[05:01] <brian98> gonna play!
[05:01] <brian98> Thanks for the advice
[05:01] <Ruckus> oh i see, it got hidden :P
[05:01] <DBO> JimmiJones, sure, I just need the file in /var/log/kern.log  (I think thats what ubuntu users, if not /var/log/kernel would be it)
[05:01] <Arrick> sethk, please look at your pm
[05:01] <tgelter> brian98: no problem, I hope it works out for you
[05:01] <Arrick> 	Required by: postgresql
[05:01] <Arrick> Package: libguile16
[05:01] <Arrick> 	Required by: guile, guile-devel
[05:01] <Arrick> Package: libpgtypes2
[05:01] <Arrick> 	Required by: postgresql
[05:01] <brian98> tgelter: I presume it's a kde app
[05:01] <teddy> Where is the best place to find a step by step for setting up a home network?
[05:02] <Arrick> crap wrong line sorry guys
[05:02] <tgelter> brian98: yes, so you'll have to install some kde libraries if you are using gnome
[05:02] <THX-1138> !firestarter
[05:02] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[05:02] <jorgino> sethk, did u got what i wrote u
[05:02] <sethk> Arrick, hey, that was more interesting than the stuff you've been telling us.  :)
[05:02] <THX-1138> Did that help?
[05:02] <no_dog> my computer will not boot the ubuntu CD; is there any other way that I can install it?
[05:02] <sethk> jorgino, let me look
[05:02] <Dial_tone> anyone else have trouble booting the x86 iso? I already have it installed; now I want to boot it to reinstall but it just hangs at the boot cd prompt. I can boot other install CDs
[05:02] <Arrick> sethk, how do you install a tarball on windows/
[05:03] <Arrick> ?
[05:03] <Skarr> If I partition ubuntu and windows and ubuntu are on the same system do I get an options at startup?
[05:03] <tech13> amarok froze while trying to play an audio stream, now my audio won't work. is there a way to restart the sound without doing a full reboot?
 I got 5, 3 of em are compressed, which one you think you want?
[05:03] <Ruckus> sethk, use like winrar or something.
[05:03] <Skarr> ArrickL winrar
[05:03] <DBO> JimmiJones, not compressed
[05:03] <sethk> jorgino, you don't need to.  however, once cygwin is installed, you install a tarball on windows precisely the same way you install it on linux.  that's what cygwin is for.
[05:03] <Ruckus> urh i mean Arrick
[05:03] <brian98> tgelter: looks interesting ;)
[05:03] <THX-1138> no_dog - not much of an answer really but the debian.org site has a how to on that.
[05:03] <sethk> jorgino, I'm confused about exactly where you are and what you need to do.  You've restored the windows mbr?  And now you need to do what?
[05:04] <jorgino> i want to install ubuntu on mi pc
[05:04] <sethk> Dial_tone, try burning another.
[05:04] <sethk> jorgino, ok
[05:04] <jorgino> im running cd live
[05:04] <tgelter> brian98: let me know if you need any help with it...it's pretty self-explanitory though
[05:04] <sethk> jorgino, ok ...
[05:04] <JimmiJones> ??pastebin
[05:04] <ray`> any idea for my postgresql problem?
[05:04] <malice_> is there a program out there for ubuntu that will use my gmail account as a hd?
 where's this pastebin at?
[05:05] <sethk> Ruckus, why would I do that when I can just use tar?
[05:05] <Skarr> malice_: gmail space
[05:05] <Dial_tone> I have tried 2-3 burns already.
[05:05] <THX-1138> no_dog http://www.debian.org/releases/slink/i386/ch-install-methods.en.html
[05:05] <DBO> !paste > JimmiJones
[05:05] <malice_> skarr ty
[05:05] <sethk> Dial_tone, odd.
[05:05] <no_dog> THX-1138: thanks, I was having trouble finding it on the site. I'll take a look!
[05:05] <Ruckus> sethk, i thought it was you who asked how to install a tarball on windows.
[05:05] <tgelter> malice_:if you find out how to do that...let me know!
[05:05] <Skarr> malice: It's a mozilla application... you can uppload stuff to your gmail account, im not sure ifthats what you watn
[05:05] <ziro01> hey
[05:05] <cyberfr0g> hello
[05:05] <Skarr> *mozilla extension
[05:05] <malice_> tgelter: ok
[05:06] <Skarr> K gang I'll be back, reinstalling ubuntu
[05:06] <sethk> Ruckus, no, I was answering; however, the point is that with the cygwin package you have tar, and you have bash and zsh and everything else you have in linux, and so you install from a tarball as you would in linux.
[05:06] <MugginsM> yay, edgy boots again
[05:06] <Ruckus> yes, i wasnt reading the entire convo, just his question.
[05:06] <brian98> tgelter: How do you modify the contents of kwallet
[05:06] <brian98> ?
[05:06] <Ruckus> it was my mistake.
[05:06] <cyberfr0g> dunno
[05:06] <ziro01> ??
[05:06] <THX-1138> Xmailharddrive - this isn't part of the normal Ubuntu repository.
[05:06] <tgelter> come on guys...I know someone has access to their fstab...I just want that swap line...=)
[05:07] <tgelter> brian98: it should pop up a kwallet configuration wizard
[05:07] <brosnan> http://richard.jones.name/google-hacks/gmail-filesystem/gmail-filesystem.html
[05:07] <sethk> tgelter, what is the partition?  it's part of the line, the /dev/hd**
[05:07] <THX-1138> brosnan - nice link.
[05:07] <jbroome> tgelter: /dev/hda3       none            swap    sw              0       0
[05:07] <sethk> tgelter, here is one of mine:   /dev/hda2       none            swap    sw              0       0
[05:07] <tgelter> sethk: I set up my fstab manually...so I don't have it in there..
[05:07] <THX-1138> !paste
[05:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:07] <tgelter> ah, thanks guys, that's all I needed
[05:08] <sethk> tgelter, I know, but you can't _put_ it in there unless you know which partition it is.
[05:08] <sethk> tgelter, if you don't know, use   fdisk -l, as in:  fdisk -l /dev/hda
[05:08] <jbroome> THX-1138: i don't think one line needs a pastebin
[05:08] <tgelter> sethk: yes, I know my partition table
[05:09] <tgelter> sethk: just didn't know the options to set
[05:09] <sethk> tgelter, ok, then you have a couple of examples so you are ok?
[05:09] <malice_> tgelter: its telling me cookie retr failed
[05:10] <tgelter> sethk: yes, I am fine setting it up. One question I do have though is if I can activate it now, or if I just need to reboot before it'll get activated (I know the mount -a option...but don't know if it works well w/ swap)
[05:10] <sethk> tgelter, activate it with the swapon command
[05:10] <sethk> tgelter, as in:   swapon /dev/hda2     from my example line
[05:10] <MugginsM> swapon -a          will activate all swap partitions
[05:10] <teddy> Where is the best place to find a step by step for setting up a home network?
[05:10] <cbrown_> could someone help me? I'm following a tutorial on installing mythtv, and i'm getting an error message during the 'preparing a build environment for ivtv' part.
[05:11] <brian98> tgelter: Class, I'll see if it hangs the dt the same as rdesktop. It was really doing my brains in... I was considering a dual boot it was that serious
[05:11] <tgelter> sethk: that worked perfectly, thanks
[05:11] <decherdtt> Is there a way to prevent a kernel update from writing to menu.lst?    apt-get -o=null-ish
[05:11] <Arrick> teddy, microsofts website, magazines, such as maximum pc, pc world
[05:11] <brian98> tgelter: Unforutnately my work has me admining a lot of 2003 boxes
[05:11] <no_dog> is there any way that I can take the ubuntu iso and use it to create a bootable partition on a usb drive from which I can install ubuntu onto my hd?
[05:11] <ray`> is there anybody using postgresql on ubuntu?
[05:11] <tgelter> brian98: I've never seen that error...maybe you ought to ask the other guys on this channel
[05:11] <sethk> decherdtt, there are ways, but it is smarter to just:   back up menu.lst,  do the make install of the kernel, then restore menu.lst
[05:12] <brian98> so this is quite important!!!
[05:12] <tgelter> brian98: I've used krdc w/ win2003 server
[05:13] <malice_> tgelter: its telling me cookie retr failed
[05:13] <teddy> Arrick: I have two ubuntu and two edubuntu computers and I just want to share files(I have no windows computers in the house.
[05:13] <malice_> ?
[05:14] <decherdtt> sethk: OK ty, (now where is that tar manual....)
[05:14] <tgelter> malice_ what is?
[05:14] <libervisco> Hello
[05:14] <libervisco> How do I restart X in Ubuntu without rebooting?
[05:14] <Arrick> ok
[05:14] <sethk> decherdtt, tar?  back it up with cp.  you can back up the entire /boot tree with tar, which isn't a bad idea
[05:14] <Telroth_Plushie|> libervisco,
[05:14] <malice_> gspace
 ctrl alt backspace
[05:14] <Telroth_Plushie|> ctrl + alt+ backspace to kill it immediately
[05:14] <Telroth_Plushie|> or
[05:15] <Telroth_Plushie|> log out and then click the menu button and select restart x server
[05:15] <sethk> decherdtt, thinking about it, that's a good  idea because the make install modifies links in /boot
[05:15] <surface-> teddy, either ssh or samba
[05:15] <sethk> decherdtt, I'm assuming you are building a kernel with a different name than any kernel that already exists.
[05:15] <Arrick> hey teddy check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261961
[05:15] <the1> /etc/init.d/gdm restart will restart X, right?
[05:15] <sethk> the1, in general no
[05:15] <RMorris84> im getting this error message: WARNING: Error inserting ieee80211_crypt (/lib modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/net/ieee80211/ieee80211_crypt.ko):
[05:15] <libervisco> ok thanks guys Telroth_Plushie| and brian98
[05:15] <jorgino> sethk, what can i do with that ?
[05:15] <Caplain> is there a way i can control xmms globally?
[05:15] <tgelter> sethk: will I need to invoke the swapon command every time I boot? or will it do it automatically now that it's in my fstab?
[05:15] <sethk> the1, it will restart gdm, which is the log in and greeter program.
[05:16] <libervisco> logging out seems cleaner :)
[05:16] <libervisco> brb
[05:16] <sethk> jorgino, with what?  I've already lost whatever you've said .  the traffic on this channel is very high.
[05:16] <sethk> jorgino, so repeat it, please?
[05:16] <jorgino> ok
[05:16] <Telroth_Plushie|> well, sethk, i know that with kde, kdm is the login/greeter, but it also manages all the x servers. restarting it restarts the x servers. not sure for gnome though
[05:17] <RMorris84> i just did a apt-get update and dist-upgrade and now my wireless isnt working with ndiswrapper and when i do a modprobe it says: WARNING: Error inserting ieee80211_crypt (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/net/ieee80211/ieee80211_crypt.ko):
[05:17] <Arrick> later guys, thanks for trying to help sethk, but I need sleep., this thing is now at 5% and its a .tar.bz2 file, which i have no idea on how to use, I wil try again tomorrow
[05:17] <sethk> Telroth_Plushie|, depends on the configuration.
[05:17] <brian98> tgelter: Impressive, many thanks, full screen mode is a bit weird but that could be a gnome kde thing
[05:17] <sethk> Telroth_Plushie|, remember, in some configurations gdm (or kdm) isn't even used
[05:18] <sethk> I tell him how to do a trivial simple install and he insists on doing something else.
[05:18] <sethk> I tell him to download for windows a program named setup.exe, and he downloads a tarball.
[05:18] <sethk> sigh ...
[05:18] <jorgino> sethk : i got win me & win xp, when i installed ubuntu, i got this: grub loading, error 21, i fixed it, but i want to know how to install it with those 2 win O/S
[05:18] <tgelter> brian98: ok, so it's working out alright for you?
[05:18] <Arafangion> How do I change my screen depth on-the-fly?
[05:18] <brian98> Yup!
[05:18] <Arafangion> Without using the numpad.
[05:18] <brian98> thanks for the heads up ;)
[05:19] <sethk> jorgino, you didn't fix it, you covered it up, but let me check on what error 21 means exactly.
[05:19] <tgelter> brian98: you also can specify a resolution
[05:19] <brian98> man I got so sick of restarting x I was going to install windows :(
[05:19] <libervisco> there was no "restart x" menu after logging out, but clicking on "logging via remote xsomething" did it anyway (I know that has nothing to do with X, but hey) :P
[05:19] <brian98> I see that
[05:19] <RMorris84> im getting this error: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:19] <RMorris84> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[05:19] <libervisco> anyway, it's cool now, I just wanted a slight change in xorg.conf to apply
[05:20] <cbrown_> could someone help me? I'm following a tutorial on installing mythtv, and i'm getting an error message during the 'preparing a build environment for ivtv' part.
[05:20] <DarkMageZ> how do i list zombie processes?
[05:20] <Arafangion> So, how do I change my screen depth?
[05:20] <Arafangion> I need to run in 256 colours.
[05:20] <sethk> jorgino, error 21 means that there was an error in your menu.lst file, or you moved a disk around after doing the install
[05:21] <sethk> jorgino, do this.  assuming everything is on your primary master IDE drive,  run:      fdisk -l /dev/hda        and put the output on the paste web site and paste the url here
[05:21] <sethk> jorgino, you'll need to run fdisk -l with root privileges
[05:21] <sethk> jorgino, what you need to do is very simple but to tell you the exact command I need the details.
[05:22] <jorgino> ok
[05:25] <BeepAU> hey guys, how do i install a *.run file?
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> sh whatever.run
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> thats such a FAQ. :P
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> or chmod +x whatever.run  , then  ./whatever.run
[05:27] <bb|Gishnob> so is a .run file the equivelent of a .exe file in windows?
[05:27] <sethk> bb|Gishnob, no
[05:27] <strav> hey there. quick question, I'm trying to install vmware server on dapper... intallation asks me for the running kernel C header files... I think their located under /usr/include/linux... I just wanna be shure about it...
[05:27] <acersales> hi i am facing a strange problem i am using firefox to use my flash movies i have tried other software's as well my sound doesnt work and suddenly start working after 2 hours
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> bb|Gishnob,  not really. it could just be a shell script
[05:27] <sethk> bb|Gishnob, file extensions have no significance in unix (and unix-like) systems
[05:27] <acersales> i dont know what to do with it
[05:27] <bb|Gishnob> ah
[05:27] <acersales> i have checked all permissions
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> bb|Gishnob,  its just an executable that some how installs somthing.. and is a VERY bad habbit that way to many companies use.
[05:27] <acersales> everything about it any idea that blocks the sound
[05:27] <sethk> bb|Gishnob, the equivalent of a .exe in windows is generally an ELF executable in linux
[05:27] <bb|Gishnob> but if it did, things would be nice and easy
[05:28] <acersales> if i open the sound with other audio program it works
[05:28] <bb|Gishnob> thanks guys
[05:28] <sethk> bb|Gishnob, no, they would be much harder
[05:28] <bb|Gishnob> :o
[05:28] <sethk> bb|Gishnob, one of the best features of unix is that many different types of objects can act as commands
[05:28] <sethk> bb|Gishnob, you don't need to care whether it is a script, a binary program, an alias, etc., etc.
[05:28] <unix_infidel> yea, that is great.
[05:28] <bb|Gishnob> im already confused
[05:29] <bb|Gishnob> just give me my setup.exe :p
[05:29] <unix_infidel> even though i hate programming i can appreciate it :0
[05:29] <Arafangion> Ok, is it IMPOSSIBLE to change the screen depth?
[05:29] <strav> acersales: just as a clue, firefox use oss as it's sound deamon... oss cannot play more than from one source simultaneously... maybe that could be the problem. Make shure you have no music in the background.
[05:29] <unix_infidel> or appreciate that aspect of it.
[05:29] <sethk> bb|Gishnob, you have it in windows.  If that's better for you, then use it.
[05:29] <acersales> strav how to check that ?
[05:29] <bb|Gishnob> i need windows around
[05:29] <tgelter> Arafangion: of course not...
[05:29] <sethk> bb|Gishnob, so do I, unfortunately
[05:29] <bb|Gishnob> if it werent for cs 1.6
[05:29] <Arafangion> tgelter: So how does one do it?
[05:29] <bb|Gishnob> :(
[05:30] <byp|> [Sigh]  :P
[05:30] <sethk> bb|Gishnob, what's cs 1.6?
[05:30] <tgelter> ever edited your xorg.conf?
[05:30] <bb|Gishnob> counter-strike
[05:30] <byp|> CounterStrike
[05:30] <bb|Gishnob> 1.6
[05:30] <bb|Gishnob> steam
[05:30] <sethk> bb|Gishnob, ah, important things.  :)
[05:30] <bb|Gishnob> i agree sethk
[05:30] <slavik> hello
[05:30] <bb|Gishnob> if it werent for pc gaming
[05:30] <bb|Gishnob> i wouldnt be working in i.ti right now
[05:30] <bb|Gishnob> i.t*
[05:30] <slavik> sethk: any idea about dumping/flashing a BIOS in Linux?
[05:30] <byp|> Tremulous is a good game - works on Linux
[05:30] <sethk> bb|Gishnob, I don't play games, actually, but I know they are important to many people.
[05:30] <Arafangion> tgelter: Ideally, I want to do it without the numpad, but I can do it with one if it is absolutely required, however, it refuses to actually change the depth, only the resolution. (And yes, the xorg file has several bit depths availble)
[05:30] <bb|Gishnob> im actually downlaoding that game right now
[05:31] <byp|> Tremulous?
[05:31] <sethk> slavik, I've done it, but you probably don't want to do it.
[05:31] <bb|Gishnob> yea
[05:31] <the1> quake3 is GPL, what more could you ask for?
[05:31] <byp|> :P
[05:31] <acersales> strav is there any setting where i can go and check ?
[05:31] <sethk> slavik, I had to modify a device driver.
[05:31] <kitche> slavik: your sorta suppose to do that in dos really
[05:31] <J-_> i've ./configure some software, now it states, checking for GN... configure: error: Package requirements (             glib-2.0                gthread-2.0             libnjb >= 2.2.4                 gtk+-2.0 ) were not met:
[05:31] <bb|Gishnob> the .wad files
[05:31] <the1> and doom3 is ported and will probably be GPL in a few years...
[05:31] <slavik> sethk: why wouldn't I want to do it?
[05:31] <J-_> do i ahve to isntall those packages?
[05:31] <acersales> there is ofcoarse no sound running on my machine
[05:31] <tgelter> Arafangion: pm me
[05:31] <slavik> kitche: there aren't any tools for DOS
[05:31] <acersales> strav, there is ofcoarse no sound running on my machine
[05:31] <sethk> slavik, because you don't know how to write device drivers, I was assuming.  If that's not true, sorry.
[05:31] <slavik> sethk: I don't :(
[05:31] <acersales> strav, neighter there is any application
[05:32] <slavik> sethk: so, it's not easy to get a dump of a BIOS file?
[05:32] <kitche> slavik: shurg my bios needs to be updated in dos
[05:32] <bb|Gishnob> seriosuly, nexuiz has to be, hands down, the most impressive open source project i have ever seen in my life
[05:32] <sethk> slavik, I only did it that way because I had to.
[05:32] <dummkauf> Ok, trying to get my nvidia card working in ubuntu, I : 1.) installed the nvidia drivers 2.) loaded the nvidia module 3.)  edited xorg.conf to use it 4.) restarted my X server 5.) Worked perfectly 6.) rebooted my computer 7.) now it tells me that it can not find module nvidia??? any ideas???
[05:32] <slavik> sethk: I don't mind learning though ^^
[05:32] <sethk> slavik, wait, you said you wanted to flash, which means _write_ to flash.
[05:32] <byp|> Nexuiz didn't work so well for me
[05:32] <byp|> Incredible lag
[05:32] <sethk> slavik, do you just want to dump the contents of flash?
[05:32] <bb|Gishnob> really?
[05:32] <dummkauf> oh, and already reinstalled the nvidia driver
[05:32] <byp|> Yeah
[05:32] <bb|Gishnob> it runs so good on older machines
[05:32] <slavik> sethk: well, getting a dump is the main priority
[05:32] <sethk> slavik, it's still tricky, but not completely impossible.
[05:32] <Cassandra> Does anyone know where to get soulseek for ubuntu?
[05:32] <strav> acersales, I'm mostly a noob at this, just stated a fact that I knew...
[05:32] <byp|> I'll have to tweak some things
[05:32] <slavik> sethk: start talking :)
[05:32] <Cassandra> Sorry to interupt
[05:33] <the1> dummkauf: do you have the nvidia kernal package installed?
[05:33] <sethk> slavik, it's much easier to boot a program that runs in real mode and avoid the issues of address translation.
[05:33] <kitche> !soulseek
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soulseek - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <Cassandra> thel me?
[05:33] <sethk> slavik, you realize you will get machine code?
[05:33] <slavik> sethk: yes, I know
[05:33] <bb|Gishnob> !ubuntu
[05:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[05:33] <strav>  I'm trying to install vmware server on dapper... intallation asks me for the running kernel C header files... I think their located under /usr/include/linux... I just wanna be shure about it...
[05:33] <slavik> sethk: I am comp sci major :)
[05:33] <strav> kitche: if you wanna soulseek under linux look for nicotine
[05:33] <byp|> Should be
[05:33] <bb|Gishnob> really?
[05:33] <Cassandra> Thank you
[05:34] <slavik> sethk: even though I am ecstatic about x86 assembly ...
[05:34] <Agrajag> strav: did you install them?
[05:34] <bb|Gishnob> assembly FTW
[05:34] <dummkauf> thel: I believe so, I installed the nvidia-kernel-common package from apt-get....Im assuming that contains the kernel package
[05:34] <slavik> sethk: I need to get a dump of the BIOS so I can move it to my Windows system and then work on it there
[05:34] <strav> Agrajag, installed what?
[05:34] <the1> strav: they should there if you have them installed
[05:34] <sethk> slavik, raw assembly, with no symbols, only numbers
[05:34] <Agrajag> The kernel header files.
[05:34] <Agrajag> the1: they don't install to /usr/src/linux
[05:34] <sethk> slavik, I think the easiest way would be to modify memtest86
[05:34] <Agrajag> they install to /usr/src/linux-<version>
[05:34] <strav> ok well I've got a kernel.h file... but not shure about the "running kernel"
[05:35] <sethk> slavik, if you can follow the code, you'll see how to address and read memory.
 o.k. it took me about a week, but it is up there. Some reason the windows box would only see the .txt file if I put it on cd. But it is up there.
[05:35] <slavik> sethk: yes, I know.
[05:35] <slavik> sethk: there is a problem with this BIOS though ... it is compressed too
[05:35] <sethk> slavik, ok.  it's seriously ugly, but it sounds like you know what you are doing.
[05:35] <the1> humm
[05:35] <the1> $ pwd; ls *.h|wc
[05:35] <the1> /usr/include/linux
[05:35] <the1>     509     509    5093
[05:35] <strav> Agrajag, my /usr/src dir is empty...
[05:35] <sethk> slavik, compressed with what, do you know?  and what boot manager is uncompressing it?
[05:35] <jorgino> sethk, :Disk /dev/hda: 6448 MB, 6448619520 bytes
[05:35] <jorgino> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 784 cylinders
[05:35] <jorgino> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[05:35] <jorgino>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[05:35] <jorgino> /dev/hda1   *           1         383     3076416    b  W95 FAT32
[05:35] <jorgino> /dev/hda2             384         784     3221032+   b  W95 FAT32
[05:35] <jorgino> Disk /dev/hdb: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
[05:35] <jorgino> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
[05:35] <jorgino> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[05:35] <Agrajag> strav: to install the kernel headers, run "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`"
[05:35] <jorgino>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[05:35] <slavik> sethk: LZINT
[05:35] <jorgino> /dev/hdb1               1        3824    30716248+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[05:36] <jorgino> /dev/hdb2            3825        7648    30716280    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[05:36] <jorgino> /dev/hdb3            7649       10198    20482875    7  HPFS/NTFS
[05:36] <jorgino> /dev/hdb4           10199       12630    19535040   83  Linux
[05:36] <slavik> sethk: http://www.richud.com/HP-Pavilion-104-Bios-Fix/
[05:36] <byp|> Agrajag: HHGTTG :)
[05:36] <uNf8dAbLe> ....
[05:36] <sproingie> ok, right channel this time...  how do i make the window manager in ubuntu resize windows with alt-rightdrag instead of alt-middledrag?
[05:36] <slavik> I want to get around the BIOS whitelist for WiFi cards
[05:36] <the1> aa include not src for headers got it
[05:36] <slavik> and the parts I am editing is treated as data, so even if I mess that aprt up, my laptop will not die
[05:37] <sethk> slavik, I've worked a bit with that sort of compression/decompression in redboot, but I don't think that will be terribly relevant.
[05:37] <dummkauf> so anyone else know anything about getting the nvidia drivers to work with ubuntu
[05:37] <sethk> slavik, the strategy ought to be to get a binary dump and then uncompress it in linux (or in something other than what is dumping it, at any rate)
[05:37] <aztracker1> dummkauf, all I had to do is select the nvidia commercial drivers in synaptic.
[05:38] <sethk> slavik, or, you can dump it from volatile memory after it is decompressed
[05:38] <strav> dummkauf: open synaptic and look for glx and choose the appropriate package depending on your nvidia card.
[05:38] <dummkauf> aztracker1, I did that, but the nvidia module disappears after I reboot and I can't get it working again
[05:38] <dummkauf> strav: did that too
[05:38] <the1> dummkauf: is the module listed when you do modprobe -l?
[05:38] <strav> then you should sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:38] <aztracker1> dummkauf, weird..
[05:38] <slavik> sethk: here's the thing
[05:39] <dummkauf> Ok, trying to get my nvidia card working in ubuntu, I : 1.) installed the nvidia drivers 2.) loaded the nvidia module 3.)  edited xorg.conf to use it 4.) restarted my X server 5.) Worked perfectly 6.) rebooted my computer 7.) now it tells me that it can not find module nvidia??? any ideas???
[05:39] <dummkauf> it worked the first time but after the reboot it no longer works
[05:39] <Agrajag> strav: you mean sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[05:39] <slavik> I have a demo of this program that is used to edit phoenix BIOS (their program)
[05:39] <the1> dummkauf: if not, what happens when you try to load the module from the command line?
[05:39] <strav> replace the line where it says: driver "nv" with driver "nvidia"
[05:39] <slavik> it decompresses the file and then creates utilities to compress it again.
[05:39] <strav> Agrajag, bah... depends on what editor he has...
[05:39] <Mike-X2> hi all just installed ati 8.29.6 on my 9600XT card i just cant remember how to get the aticonfig HEEELP me please
[05:40] <strav> Agrajag, nano maybe ;)
[05:40] <dummkauf> thel: right after installing it, it loaded up just fine, after the reboot it complains about not being able to find it
[05:40] <kitche> dummkauf: did you upgrade your kernel before you rebooted?
[05:40] <Agrajag> strav: I think nano is installed by default in any ubuntu
[05:40] <Agrajag> yeah
[05:40] <dummkauf> kitche: nope???
[05:40] <strav> Agrajag, it is...
[05:40] <tgelter> speaking of nvidia drivers...any idea why I have to reinstall my driver each time I reboot?  =(
[05:40] <sethk> slavik, you have the source to this program?
[05:40] <slavik> the problem is that there seems to be some 3K of data that comes from the dump (using winphlash) that isn't there when it is assembled back together
[05:40] <slavik> sethk: only the compiled amchine code ;)
[05:40] <sethk> slavik, maybe it simply dumps some garbage at the end of the significant data?
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[05:41] <Mike-X2> hi all just installed ati 8.29.6 on my 9600XT card i just cant remember how to get the aticonfig HEEELP me please
[05:41] <dummkauf> kitche: how to I upgrade my kernel with ubuntu......outside of the obvious download the sources, install gcc, configure and compile
[05:41] <slavik> doubt it, I read about it dumping some header type thing
[05:41] <RMorris84> i did a apt-get update/dist-upgrade, and when i rebooted, my wireless didnt work and when i clicked the monitor it said: SIOCGIFFLAGS error: No such device, what do i need to do? i couldnt find any help on the forums
[05:41] <kitche> dummkauf: I was just making sure that wasn't the problem
[05:41] <robyns-here> Kamping_Kaiser, you here??
[05:41] <Mike-X2> hi all just installed ati 8.29.6 on my 9600XT card i just cant remember how to get the aticonfig HEEELP me please
[05:41] <jorgino> sethk,
[05:42] <sethk> jorgino, ?
[05:42] <dummkauf> kitche: what I was asking is what needs to be upgraded in the kernel before rebooting?
[05:42] <jorgino> this is what i got?
[05:42] <jorgino> Disk /dev/hda: 6448 MB, 6448619520 bytes
[05:42] <jorgino> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 784 cylinders
[05:42] <jorgino> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[05:42] <jorgino>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[05:42] <jorgino> /dev/hda1   *           1         383     3076416    b  W95 FAT32
[05:42] <jorgino> /dev/hda2             384         784     3221032+   b  W95 FAT32
[05:42] <jorgino> Disk /dev/hdb: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
[05:42] <jorgino> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
[05:42] <the1> RMorris84: I know this is bad advice, but you could get a card that is supported by a linux driver?
[05:42] <jorgino> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[05:42] <kitche> dummkauf: nothing has to be upgraded was just making sure that you didn't upgrade
[05:42] <jorgino>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[05:42] <jorgino> /dev/hdb1               1        3824    30716248+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[05:42] <jorgino> /dev/hdb2            3825        7648    30716280    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[05:42] <kitche> !pastebin > jorgino
[05:42] <jorgino> /dev/hdb3            7649       10198    20482875    7  HPFS/NTFS
[05:42] <jorgino> /dev/hdb4           10199       12630    19535040   83  Linux
[05:42] <dummkauf> kitche: gotcha...nevermind
[05:42] <slavik> ooh, ubotu has redirection?
[05:42] <strav> Agrajag, I assume a correct path to the kernel headers can look like this? /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-27/include/linux
[05:42] <RMorris84> the1: it is, broadcom 4311
[05:42] <RMorris84> built in my laptop
[05:43] <sethk> slavik, redirection of what?
[05:43] <slavik> sethk: also, I want to remaster an ISO image, is vmlinuz supposed to be the boot image?
[05:43] <RMorris84> it was working correctly until i did this last update
[05:43] <jhharris> how do i remove old kernels
[05:43] <sethk> slavik, no, vmlinuz is a compressed kernel image
[05:43] <Agrajag> strav: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-27/
[05:43] <the1> slavik:yes
[05:43] <slavik> sethk: (11:42:57 PM) kitche: !pastebin > jorgino
[05:43] <Mike-X2> hi all just installed ati 8.29.6 on my 9600XT card i just cant remember how to get the aticonfig HEEELP me please
[05:43] <Agrajag> that's all you need
[05:43] <kitche> slavik: it's teh same as ubotu tell slavik about ati
[05:44] <slavik> Mike-X2: it should be in one of thec ategories under Applications
[05:44] <the1> jhharris: apt-cache search kernel image...then apt-get remove the version you don't want
[05:44] <sproingie> sethk: ubotu's redirection syntax is just its annoying way of implementing infobot's "tell soandso about <topic>"
[05:44] <sethk> jorgino, ok, so you have linux on your primary slave
[05:44] <strav> Mike-X2: try synaptic: look for fglrx
[05:44] <RMorris84> !pastebin > jorgino
[05:44] <slavik> kitche: I know, but redirection is easier to remember :)
[05:44] <Mike-X2> slavik: ty
[05:44] <kitche> !nvidia > kitche
[05:44] <jhharris> thank you
[05:44] <linux1> i got a question about kernel updates in ubuntu?
[05:44] <sethk> sproingie, ok, I misread ubotu and ubuntu I think.  :)
[05:44] <slavik> Mike-X2: it's a terrible util anyway (compared with what nVidia has)
[05:44] <sethk> linux1, that's interesting, but unless you ask the question we'll never know what it is.
[05:44] <Mike-X2> :-) rgr that
[05:44] <kitche> slavik yep it does but you have to be registere3d to have the person st sends a privmsg
[05:45] <slavik> that I know :)
[05:45] <jorgino> yes
[05:45] <slavik> sethk: anyway
[05:45] <strav> Agrajag, actually, there's plenty of .h files in /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-27/include/linux  ... I should still give usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-27/ to the installer?
[05:45] <Agrajag> yes
[05:45] <linux1> why does ubuntu insist that kernel update get installed when everything is working properly, and kernel update inevitably hose certain applications, example vmware player?
[05:45] <sethk> slavik, if that's what you meant by boot image.
[05:45] <sethk> linux1, it doesn't insist.
[05:45] <RMorris84> i did a apt-get update/dist-upgrade, and when i rebooted, my wireless didnt work and when i clicked the monitor it said: SIOCGIFFLAGS error: No such device, what do i need to do? i couldnt find any help on the forums
[05:45] <sethk> linux1, i've never done a kernel update that way.
[05:45] <Agrajag> it's asking for the path to linux headers, the linux-headers directory is the one.
[05:46] <Agrajag> I promise you it will work, I have install vmware server more times than I care to count
[05:46] <sethk> jorgino, by the way, I specifically asked you to use the paste web site, not to paste things here.
[05:46] <Agrajag> installed even
[05:46] <strav> k
[05:46] <linux1> maybe not insist, but anoy the hell outta you on the desktop
[05:46] <prophet> how to i partition part of my NTFS drive? where is the partitioning utility
[05:46] <sethk> jorgino, you got that data by booting the live cd?
[05:46] <jorgino> sorry sethk
[05:46] <Neo8750> rc  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-7-generic 2.6.17.5-1                           Non-free Linux 2.6.17 modules on x86_64 gene <--- what does the rc at start of line mean?
[05:46] <sethk> linux1, I guess I'm harder to annoy then you are.  :)
[05:46] <jorgino> yes
[05:46] <dummkauf> Ok, I have /lib/linux-restricted-modules/2.6.15-23-386/nvidia     so the modules there, anyone know how I can get it to load?
[05:46] <sethk> jorgino, ok, you need to mount your linux root partition.
[05:47] <linux1> me thinks, that ubuntu has a fully functional kernel working on their current stable version, that kernel updates are not a good thingy
[05:47] <sethk> jorgino, create a directory to mount it, say:    mkdir /mnt/rootfs
[05:47] <kitche> dummkauf: it should load when you startx
[05:47] <sethk> jorgino, then, mount it as follows:      mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb4 /mnt/rootfs
[05:47] <dummkauf> kitche: nope, and modprobing it says there is no nvidia module
[05:47] <sethk> jorgino, verify that this worked by doing:    ls /mnt/rootfs
[05:47] <Madpilot> linux1, security updates are a bad thing?
[05:47] <jorgino> okok
[05:47] <linux1> like it or not, people can and do use proprietary software on ubuntu
[05:47] <dummkauf> kitche: just crashes the server
[05:48] <linux1> kernel updates are security motivated?
[05:48] <the1> sometimes
[05:48] <sethk> linux1, I agree, by the way, about kernel updates.  Remember, though, that you can always set the default kernel back to the previous one even after updating.  I hope, anyway.
[05:48] <Agrajag> linux1: all updates to a stable ubuntu version are security motivated
[05:48] <linux1> sethk, hmmm missed that trick
[05:49] <sethk> dummkauf, you need to have the file   nvidia.ko   for starters
[05:49] <kitche> sethk: hmm not sure if the packages allow you to do that but I know if you do it by source and set up the boot loader right an dsuch you can
[05:49] <Madpilot> linux1, when you see the grub screen on startup, hit ESC, it'll offer you all your old kernels to boot into.
[05:49] <slavik> in dos, is there a way to pipe output, so that dir works more like ls | less rather than ls | cat ?
[05:49] <linux1> madpilot, thanks
[05:49] <sethk> dummkauf, the install puts it in   /lib/modules/linux-###########/kernel/driver/video            I believe, where ########## is your kernel version as show in uname -r
[05:49] <the1> dir /p ?
[05:49] <pasteler0> hey, how can I see the partitions on the computer?
[05:49] <slavik> ty\
[05:50] <sethk> dummkauf, once it is in the /lib/modules/whatever tree, then modprobe will find it.
[05:50] <Agrajag> slavik: the best I can seem to do in dos is to use > to send it to a file and then read the file
[05:50] <byp|> pasteler0: fdisk -l
[05:50] <the1> slavik: I think there are pipes in newer versions of dos
[05:50] <sethk> dummkauf, the nvidia installer does a depmod so that modprobe knows about the module.
[05:50] <linux1> no matter, i did install appropriate kernel headers etc, symlinks etc and get vmware player working again
[05:50] <pasteler0> i mean, how can I create a partition from my other partitions to use in linux?
[05:50] <RMorris84> i did a apt-get update/dist-upgrade, and when i rebooted, my wireless didnt work and when i clicked the monitor it said: SIOCGIFFLAGS error: No such device, what do i need to do? i couldnt find any help on the forums
[05:50] <byp|> ?
[05:50] <sethk> the1, not quite fully functional pipes, but better than nothing.
[05:50] <jorgino> sethk, it's done
[05:51] <dummkauf> sethk: so how come it's not there after installing the nvidia driver through synaptic
[05:51] <linux1> me thinks id like to see the general public adopt linux any distro on a broader scale , but such details as kernel updates makes that impractical for the general public
[05:51] <sethk> the1, take a look at the code in the win32 versions of zsh to see how they had to hack to make it look like fully functional pipes.
[05:51] <sethk> dummkauf, I don't know, I don't install it that way.
[05:51] <slavik> hmm, uniflash only dumps 128KB of the BIOS (it's really 512KB)
[05:51] <dummkauf> sethk: so how do you install it
[05:51] <sethk> jorgino, ok,  now try this:       chroot /mnt/rootfs
[05:51] <sethk> dummkauf, I download the installer from the nvidia web site, chmod +x it, and run it.
[05:51] <Agrajag> linux1: and windows doesn't update its kernel over and over and over?
[05:52] <sethk> dummkauf, you need kernel source, or at least kernel headers, to do it that way
[05:52] <jorgino> sethk, ok
[05:52] <sethk> dummkauf, and you'll need the stuff installed by the build-essential package
[05:52] <linux1> yes they do, but its dummy proofed
[05:52] <Agrajag> so is this, I don't understand your problem with kernel upgrades.
[05:52] <dummkauf> sethk:  I know, Im trying not to do it that wayt because then I have to install gcc and every other development package it needs to compile it, none of which are included in a default ubuntu install
[05:52] <Agrajag> You run the upgrade, you reboot, grub picks the newest kernel by default.
[05:52] <sethk> linux1, you could construct a distro aimed at a less sophisticated user.  In fact I'm sure such distros exist.
[05:52] <iain> What does Ubuntu use to automount volumes?
[05:53] <Pastel> is there any graphic program to manage partitons?
[05:53] <sethk> dummkauf, ok.  when you get done beating your head against the wall doing it the easy way, we can do it the "hard" way in about five minutes.
[05:53] <the1> qpartd
[05:53] <linux1> well just throwing out some stuff to think about, ill always love linux
[05:53] <sethk> jorgino, if the chroot works, you should do      ls /       and see the same directory that you saw with     ls /mnt/rootfs     before the chroot
[05:54] <slavik> I should take the laptop apart and just see if they have a BIOS write-protect jumper
[05:54] <dummkauf> sethk: tried that the first time, it involves running the nvidia installer, installer crashing, install whaever app nvidia needs, run installer again, crash, install the next app nvidia needs, not a 5 min process
[05:54] <jvai> hey everyone
[05:54] <sethk> dummkauf, I installed it on four machines this afternoon.
[05:54] <linux1> i do so enjoy these little software hacks that are frequently required in linux
[05:54] <sethk> dummkauf, it didn't take five minutes, more like two
[05:54] <jorgino> sethk : yes
[05:54] <Yggdrasil> hello im trying to manualy add a couple of things to my network/interfaces regardingwireless.. wireless-essid has an ' in it and its messing up. also how do i add thekey in wireless-key in hex form ?
[05:54] <dummkauf> sethk: ubuntu machines??
[05:55] <Slynderdale> Well, some some news, I'll leave it with you if its good or bad. I went out and purchased an 300 gig external hard drive for abckups and such, so now I plan to reformat my computer and install windows and make a partition for Ubuntu which I will use as my main OS. Windows will only be there for some programs and games that don't run under Linux, even with WINE. Though I have to thank all of...
[05:55] <Slynderdale> ...you for this decision, because of the people here, I decided to go through with this change.
[05:55] <sethk> dummkauf, of course, I wouldn't be saying so in #ubuntu otherwise.  :)
[05:55] <jvai> i couldnt connect while @ the starbucks, for the whole week! i thought the channel was out
[05:55] <sethk> dummkauf, I do install and build the kernel on all my machines as a matter of course.  it takes time, but it's all machine time.  I care about person time, not machine time.
[05:55] <dummkauf> sethk: so do you have the list of dependencies I need to install before installing it???
[05:55] <jvai> i miss u all
[05:55] <jvai> i was on the debian channel, but it was slow
[05:56] <sethk> dummkauf, no, there aren't any.  Just install the system so it is running with the "nv" driver.  then install build-essential.  then install kernel source.  then build the kernel.  then do the nvidia installer.
[05:56] <sethk> dummkauf, the installer will give you quite a few messages, some of them confusing.  people often think that the installer didn't work because they don't understand the messages.
[05:57] <sethk> dummkauf, usually the messages are warnings you can ignore.
[05:57] <sethk> dummkauf, you tried the howto on binary drivers that tells you how to do it the official unbuntu way?
[05:57] <ArrenLex> sethk, I didn't get any warnings when I installed Ubuntu. Can you give an example?
[05:57] <sethk> ArrenLex, not installing ubuntu, installing the nvidia X drivers for linux.
[05:57] <ArrenLex> Those either.
[05:58] <ArrenLex> Do you mean compiler warnings?
[05:58] <sethk> ArrenLex, no
[05:58] <sethk> ArrenLex, those are burried
[05:58] <dummkauf> sethk: I think that build-essential package is what I was missing....Im normally a gentoo user so Im used to having all the sources and development tools needed to do this already installed
[05:58] <ArrenLex> http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.txt
[05:58] <sethk> ArrenLex, it asks you whether to look for a precompiled module.  then it tells you it didn't find a precompiled module.
[05:58] <ArrenLex> I followed that guide to install NV.
[05:58] <ArrenLex> It was on debian but it should work on ubuntu.
[05:58] <dummkauf> sethk: Installed the nvidia modules from source a number of times...just never on ubuntu
[05:58] <ArrenLex> It worked perfectly. No warnings.
[05:59] <sethk> ArrenLex, indeed.  I'm talking about doing it a different way because he didn't succeed in doing it that way.
[05:59] <ArrenLex> I see.
[05:59] <dummkauf> sethk: thanks for the help though....gonna try again as soon as everything else I need gets downloaded and installed
[05:59] <sethk> ArrenLex, I don't know why it failed.  dummkauf, what happens when you follow the howto?
[05:59] <dummkauf> sethk: what howto?
[06:00] <sethk> dummkauf, hmm, that may be the cause of your problems.  :)
[06:00] <sethk> dummkauf, someone ask ubuto for that url?  for nvidia?
[06:00] <kitche> !ati
[06:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:00] <sethk> kitche, thank you.
[06:00] <dummkauf> stehk: my main frustration is the fact that it worked find once, and now my module has disappeared after rebooting, very frustrating
[06:00] <THX-1138> !eyecandy
[06:00] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:00] <sethk> dummkauf, the module was probably inserted explicitly using insmod with the full path
[06:01] <sethk> dummkauf, then on reboot, because the module isn't where modprobe expects it to be, it isn't found.
[06:01] <dummkauf> sethk: I inserted the module myself the first time using modprobe
[06:01] <THX-1138> !xcmpmgr
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xcmpmgr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <sethk> dummkauf, if modprobe found it, then depmod must have succeeded.
[06:01] <sethk> dummkauf, things to not just disappear, you know.  :)    did you do a find for nvidia.ko?
[06:02] <dummkauf> sethk: but it still doesn't work after the reboot, and find produced no results for nvidia.ko.....although I never tried searching for it before I rebooted
[06:02] <sethk> dummkauf, that's certainly odd.
[06:02] <dummkauf> sethk: tell me about it
[06:02] <ArrenLex> dumm: what happens if you just type modprobe -v nvidia?
[06:03] <dummkauf> Arrenlex : module not found
[06:03] <libervisco> Is there an alternative to slocate which is faster when updatedb is running?
[06:03] <libervisco> on Arch I had mlocate
[06:03] <kitche> dummkauf: yI would move the module to where it's really suppose to be
[06:03] <sethk> libervisco, you can easily simulate that by copying the database file before running updatedb, and using a flag with slocate telling it to use the copy
[06:04] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> can anyone please tell me how to play WMV files in ubuntu
[06:04] <libervisco> sethk, copying where?
[06:04] <sethk> kitche, wake up
[06:04] <Rookie-> !nvidia
[06:04] <ArrenLex> Punjabi: do you have a player in mind?
[06:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:04] <sethk> libervisco, anywhere
[06:04] <libervisco> oh
[06:05] <THX-1138> !w32codecs
[06:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:05] <kitche> sethk: ?
[06:05] <sethk> kitche, he said he searched the entire machine and the module does not exist
[06:05] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ArrenLex & ubotu: thanks
[06:05] <dummkauf> Ok all...Im gonna try recompling this stupid driver and see if I can't get it working....Ill probly be back in a bit
[06:05] <iain> What does Ubuntu use to automount drives?
[06:05] <sethk> libervisco, the -d flag of slocate tells it to use a specific database file.
[06:05] <sethk> libervisco, or --database= if you prefer that form.
[06:05] <MoreUBU> hello
[06:06] <Yggdrasil> how can i tell what runlevel im at ?
[06:06] <libervisco> sethk, thanks
[06:06] <ana> hey im having trouble with touchpad synch on a hp pavilion laptop
[06:06] <jvai> totem - xine makes a good movie player, i use it
[06:06] <ana> anyone know anything abou tit?
[06:06] <ana> jvai,
[06:07] <ana> totem fails
[06:07] <ana> hard.
[06:07] <ana> compile mplayer as per forums
[06:07] <ana> and also compile x264
[06:07] <MoreUBU> Does anyone know how to get gnome games working on a lan?
[06:07] <RootBeet> What is Ubuntu's primary target? Commercial users or Home users?
[06:08] <ToHellWithGA> how do i run the last.fm client in ubuntu?
[06:08] <jvai> oo, i use totem-xine, w/ the easy ubuntu fix, the win32 codecs/libdvdcss/ & build-essentials
[06:08] <detra> is there no alternate to get flash to work on ppc ?
[06:08] <RootBeet> I tried Suse and Mandriva....and everytime you want to install something etc....the process seems to be different. Suse is suppose to be excellent yet it ran like shit for me....on a new box... is ubuntu less confusing?
[06:09] <MoreUBU> I like ubu more and more eachday
[06:09] <kitche> seth he said this [11:46pm]  [dummkauf]  Ok, I have /lib/linux-restricted-modules/2.6.15-23-386/nvidia so the modules there, anyone know how I can get it to load?
[06:09] <the1> detra: wonder if there are any ppc systems fast enough to run an os, browser, and flash under bochs?
[06:09] <sethk> kitche, true, but that's not the name of the module.
[06:09] <m0dY> hello, i have a linksys wpc54g pcmcia card, i'
[06:09] <detra> the1, what do you mean `?'
[06:09] <sethk> kitche, you didn't follow the rest of the conversation.
[06:10] <the1> bochs is an x86 emulator
[06:10] <detra> oh
[06:10] <RootBeet> When is the next version of ubuntu out?
[06:10] <sethk> RootBeet, it has fewer glitches, IMO, but I wouldn't recommend it if you found suse extremely problematic
[06:10] <Tokenbad> how do you setup stuff to start on bootup in ubuntu?
[06:10] <detra> Is it only ubuntu who doesn
[06:10] <MoreUBU> gamers here?
[06:10] <sethk> Tokenbad, you can add links in the run level directories, or add commands to rc.local
[06:11] <RootBeet> sethk....why wouldnt you recommend it?
[06:11] <ana> RootBeet, ive found ubujntuj to be extrememly easy
[06:11] <the1> quake3 and doom3...
[06:11] <Tokenbad> sethk, you just went over my head
[06:11] <RootBeet> I'm good with computers...I'm serious suse 10 was buggy man.
[06:11] <detra> Is it only ubuntu who doesnt have flash on ppc or is it all linux versions ?'
[06:11] <sethk> RootBeet, because it has the same level of complexity
[06:11] <m0dY> hello, i have a linksys wpc54g pcmcia card, i've got a firmware driver from a certain location as the one supposed to be with ubuntu is missing, anyway the card leds is working now and issuing "$iwconfig" lists me the card and i can see the wlan0 interface, anyway i wanna configure WPA encryption as that's what's my router is using now... any help !?
[06:11] <paetsr> hello all
[06:11] <sethk> RootBeet, and potentially the same level of frustration
[06:11] <sethk> Tokenbad, sorry, I'll try again.
[06:11] <Yggdrasil> anyone know how to tell what runlevel im at theres some cmd but iforgot it
[06:11] <paetsr> anybody on amd64
[06:11] <paetsr> i need some help. .can smoeone help
[06:11] <kitche> detra: all versions since Adobe doesn't have flash for ppc
[06:12] <sethk> Tokenbad, there is a file in /etc called rc.local.  you can add commands to the end of this file, and those commands will be executed at the end of the boot process.
[06:12] <RootBeet> I'm not talking about how complex suse is. I mean things just didnt work right....sometimes it woulnt even boot up
[06:12] <keegan_> So what do people do for flash if they have ppc?
[06:12] <sethk> Tokenbad, there is also a system of specifying which programs are to run at which runlevels.  If you don't know about run levels yet, just use rc.local.
[06:12] <detra> kitche, But am I able to install an elder version then ?
[06:12] <zerodni_> m0dY, make sure to use networkmanager to configure your wpa
[06:12] <anonymeeee> what do I need to view/copy dvd's?
[06:12] <Tokenbad> sethk, I opened that file..but don't understand it...but basicly want to have like an eggdrop bot and xchat start when computer is rebooted
[06:12] <sethk> RootBeet, I've found ubuntu to be far superior to suse w.r.t installation.
[06:12] <kitche> detra: you could install gnash but that's sorta works and doesn't at times
[06:13] <RootBeet> Sweet. i'll give it a crack.
[06:13] <sethk> Tokenbad, ok, you should probably then have gnome start them for you.
[06:13] <paetsr> can anybody please help me with a problem im having with libdvdcss2???????????????
[06:13] <m0dY> zerodni_: i don't have a GUI =)
[06:13] <sethk> Tokenbad, rc.local is run before X is running, so starting xchat there wouldn't work.
[06:13] <detra> kitche, Ok ... Do you know what the apt-get for that is ?
[06:13] <sethk> Tokenbad, I don't understand what you don't understand in rc.local.  It is just a file with one command on each line.
[06:13] <m0dY> im running Ubuntu 6.06.1 server
[06:13] <Tokenbad> sethk, ok...how would I have gnome start them?
[06:13] <RootBeet> When you have used Windows for so many years it's like being straight and turning gay, it's confusing mwahaha.
[06:14] <sethk> Tokenbad, I run kde, so I can't tell you where to tell gnome to start them, but I'm sure someone else here knows that.
[06:14] <sethk> RootBeet, sure it's confusing.  it takes some work to figure things out.  if you don't want to do the work, stay with windows.  Nobody is forcing you to switch.
[06:14] <kitche> detra: there is no package for it from what I see
[06:14] <sethk> RootBeet, or use osx
[06:14] <sethk> RootBeet, it's somewhere in between
[06:15] <Tokenbad> ok...how would I have gnome start like an eggdrop bot and xchat when it boots?
[06:15] <detra> ok
[06:15] <RootBeet> I like the philosophy of opensource
[06:15] <zerodni> m0dY, are you remoting in to the sytem
[06:15] <paetsr> hello
[06:15] <sethk> detra, flash is common to all linux distros, not ubuntu specific.
[06:15] <RootBeet> I want to be able to put my company logo as the splashscreen etc....
[06:15] <m0dY> zerodni: nop, my laptop
[06:15] <RootBeet> linux is sweet.
[06:15] <RootBeet> I just looking for the right distro
[06:15] <keegan_> How do I change the picture for Uslab in Ubuntu?
[06:15] <zerodni> ah x forwarding could work but not if your not remoting in
[06:16] <sproingie> there is no perfect distro, they all have different parts where they suck
[06:16] <keegan_> Do I need to use Gconf?
[06:16] <sethk> can anyone tell Tokenbad how to tell gnome to start programs when gnome starts up?  I only know how to do it in kde.  there is a file in $HOME/.gnomeX, I believe
[06:16] <m0dY> zerodni: i kinda hate gui's so beside i need a bare system
[06:16] <sethk> Tokenbad, the X is the rest of the directory name that I've forgotten  :)
[06:16] <sproingie> ubuntu sucks less, but i'm very used to debian
[06:16] <RootBeet> Go to "sessions" under the gnome menu
[06:16] <ana> !ati
[06:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:16] <paetsr> can anybody please help me with a problem im having with libdvdcss2???????????????
[06:16] <paetsr> !libdvdcss2
[06:16] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:16] <zerodni> m0dY, well xforwarding would allow you to have a bare system and use the gui
[06:16] <keegan_> Tokenbad: System>Preferences>Sessions
[06:17] <DarkMageZ> ToHellWithGA, did you get the last.fm client working?
[06:17] <m0dY> zerodni: my issue is far from x forwarding or using a gui :)
[06:17] <topgun701_> an Ubuntu install cd or dvd that contains bradcom /nvidia drivers
[06:17] <keegan_> Takenbad: Then go to startup programs.  Now just put the command to open the program
[06:17] <m0dY> i just need to configure my wlan0 interface and use WPA encryption
[06:17] <Tokenbad> keegan_, thanks
[06:17] <sproingie> paetsr: no need to hand us extra questionmarks, we have plenty
[06:17] <sethk> m0dY, zerodni has a good idea.  ssh in with the -X flag.  once you get it configured, then you'll be able to do it at the command line level.
[06:17] <ana> with turon 64 chip what distro do i need
[06:17] <sethk> keegan_, thank you
[06:17] <zerodni> yeah
[06:17] <topgun701_> * is there an Ubuntu install cd or dvd that contains bradcom /nvidia drivers
[06:18] <ana> like what arch
[06:18] <sethk> m0dY, you will need to have the client side of X installed, but it's very small.
[06:18] <kitche> ana: x86_64
[06:18] <keegan_> Anyone know how to edit USLAB?
[06:18] <m0dY> sethk: why are you both trying to hit me with this GUI thingy =(
[06:18] <ana> ty kitche
[06:18] <sproingie> ana: you can run either 64 bit or 32 bit distros.  personally i recommend 32 bit if you don't specifically need large RAM
[06:18] <ana> 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD
[06:18] <m0dY> couldn't the wlan0 interface be configured through command line?
[06:18] <detra> kitche, Would that work on webpages or do I need to have all the flash on my computer ?
[06:18] <ana> that o64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CDne rite ?
[06:18] <detra> kitche, gnash
[06:19] <ana> sproingie, im with the 32 bit atm
[06:19] <zerodni> doesnt the package of networkmanager have a command line  interface aswell with a switch i could be wrong
[06:19] <ana> but the cpu speed in /proc/cpuinfo is 800mhz not 1800
[06:19] <kitche> detra: it's very limited at what it does I m not sure if it works with youtube yet or not sicne I don't use it myself
[06:19] <ana> mebbie i should put under load
[06:19] <ana> also
[06:19] <ana> touchpad synch problems
[06:19] <ana> ~_~
[06:19] <kitche> detra: anyways I m going to bed now
[06:19] <detra> ok
[06:19] <fishy> Hey, I'm having a very serious problem. When I boot, I get a GRUB error, "Error 17." GRUB won't load, and thus I can't get into Windows OR Linux (I'm dual-booting). The Ubuntu partition got deleted accidentally, which caused this, but I still have the Windows partition, what used to be the Linux partition, a linux-swap partition, and two other partitions. I just want to bypass GRUB and get back into Windows. Any ideas?
[06:19] <ToHellWithGA> DarkMageZ: i did not :(
[06:20] <sproingie> ana: you'll have to run some stuff as 32 bit anyway.  like flash.  lot of games want you to have 32 bit driver interfaces, etc.
[06:20] <ToHellWithGA> DarkMageZ: could you help me get it working?
[06:20] <ana> yeah..
[06:20] <ana> im fine with 32 bit
[06:20] <ana> as long as it can use the cpu effectively
[06:20] <RootBeet> fishy, I know do get windows working you can boot with a win98bootdisk and type fdisk /mbr
[06:20] <ana> !paste
[06:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:20] <sethk> ana, often more effectively than 64 bit
[06:20] <sproingie> ana: there's pretty much no speed difference, they're both really zippy
[06:20] <DarkMageZ> ToHellWithGA, i'm having alook @ it now, i used to use last.fm 
[06:20] <RootBeet> it will get windows loading...and you can go from there
[06:20] <topgun701_> tohell do you have a live cd that you can use to eidt grub?
[06:21] <fishy> RootBeet: What would that do? What's /mbr?
[06:21] <sproingie> DarkMageZ: was that smiley some arabic character or something?
[06:21] <RootBeet> fishy....get fdisk boot from a bootdisk and type fdisk /mbr works everytime
[06:21] <RootBeet> it will restore the master boot record
[06:21] <RootBeet> it will allow windows to boot
[06:21] <sethk> RootBeet, it will replace it with the windows version.
[06:21] <ana> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24445
[06:21] <topgun701_> fishy master boot record
[06:22] <fishy> RootBeet: Could I do it with a Ubuntu live CD?
[06:22] <ana> mind looking at that sethk // sproingie ?
[06:22] <RootBeet> yes sethk
[06:22] <DarkMageZ> sproingie, it's katakana to memory
[06:22] <zerodni> m0dY, also do you have wpa_supplicant installed
[06:22] <sproingie> DarkMageZ: ah.  hard to tell one squiggly language from another with single characters ;)
[06:22] <sethk> RootBeet, to me, _grub_ restores it.  :)
[06:22] <RootBeet> or you could reinstall linux and it'll get your dualboot back
[06:22] <ana> would you know a way to toss a load on the cpu to see if it ramps up like it does in windows?
[06:22] <DarkMageZ> sproingie, hehe, yeah
[06:23] <sproingie> DarkMageZ: shoulda known better tho, dots and lines above arabic are vowels.
[06:23] <m0dY> zerodni: yeah, got it installed
[06:23] <zerodni> m0dY, no wait sorry i mean wpa_cli
[06:23] <sethk> ana, it's still loading
[06:23] <m0dY> that's also :)
[06:23] <fishy> topgun701_: Will I destroy files on any partition by doing "fdisk /mbr" ?
[06:24] <sethk> ana, why are we looking at that post?
[06:24] <m0dY> wpa_cli is installed with wpasupplicant
[06:24] <aliendream23> hello, I have a wireless issue, on another comp, seems I have network connection (shares, pings are ok) but no ability to connect to the internet. Any help?
[06:24] <ana> sethk,
[06:24] <sproingie> ana: ok, you have a not very fast amd64
[06:24] <ana> the processer should be at 1800
[06:24] <ana> not 800
[06:24] <sethk> aliendream23, did you ever answer my question about your routing?
[06:25] <sproingie> ana: you're probably running cool and quiet
[06:25] <ana> it is a damn good amd
[06:25] <ana> does ubuntu do that?
[06:25] <aliendream23> sethk, yes, the router is set up well, if that is what you mean
[06:25] <ana> auto select how fast it needs to be?
[06:25] <zerodni> m0dY, in the man page it shows all the arguments to get wpa connected
[06:25] <Rookie-> !flashplayer
[06:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:25] <sproingie> ana: it's probably been downstepped.  yes, powernowd will step your cpu down.  is it a laptop?
[06:25] <DarkMageZ> ToHellWithGA, i'm going to build the package from debian on ubuntu dapper, if you're interested in a copy of the package when it's finished building
[06:25] <sethk> ana, might be stepped down in speed due to some failure in the sensing of the cpu temperature or fan speed.
[06:25] <sproingie> ana: play a mp3 or something then try cat /proc/cpuinfo again
[06:26] <ToHellWithGA> DarkMageZ: absomalutely
[06:26] <sethk> aliendream23, no, what I mean is, what is the IP of your box, your router, and what is the default route?
[06:26] <sethk> aliendream23, usually when you can't reach the internet it is because your default route is incorrect or missing.
[06:26] <sproingie> actually mp3 codecs tend to not be too cpu hungry these days.  compile something, that'll do it
[06:26] <fishy> Ok, forget trying to boot into Windows. Is there a way I can get files off of a partition from my Ubuntu live CD?
[06:26] <sethk> fishy, sure
[06:26] <fishy> sethk: How?
[06:26] <zerodni> i dont belive iwconfig has wpa support but like i said i could be wrong
[06:26] <sethk> fishy, you can mount the windows partitions
[06:26] <fishy> sethk: How would I do that?
[06:26] <linux1> i find that the mepis live cd works good for recovering windows files
[06:27] <aliendream23> sethk, ip of box is 192.168.1.13, router is 192.1681.1, and default rout? I assume right to the router and out?
[06:27] <sethk> fishy, you use   mount -t ntfs,   or mount -t vfat, depending on whether it is a fat or ntfs partition you need to mount
[06:27] <RootBeet> http://www.obharath.net/blog/2005/10/05/reading-files-from-windows-partitionntfs-on-ubuntu-linux/
[06:27] <paetsr> you need ndiswrapper for wpa
[06:27] <sethk> aliendream23, don't assume anything.   run the route command (with no arguments) and look for the default route.  the default route has 0.0.0.0 as the destination
[06:27] <zerodni> no you dont i use it native all the ime
[06:27] <fishy> sethk: The name (/dev/sda2) would not be involved?
[06:27] <sethk> fishy, yes, it would
[06:27] <aliendream23> what is the rout command?
[06:27] <ISOLATEDViRuS> !mp3
[06:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:27] <sethk> aliendream23, route
[06:28] <iLLf8d> lo all
[06:28] <aliendream23> simple enough, brb ((thanks))
[06:28] <sethk> fishy, do this:     mkdir /mnt/sda2          mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /mnt/sda2
[06:28] <iLLf8d> wtf is this xchat-gnome client? why'd they do that?
[06:28] <sethk> fishy   sorry
[06:28] <sethk> fishy, mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /mnt/sda2
[06:28] <sethk> fishy, I'm half asleep.  if it is a fat partition, then:     mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 /mnt/sda2
[06:29] <sethk> fishy, the directory name (I chose /mnt/sda2) can be anything.  I like to use sda2 so that I remember what I mounted where.  /dev/sda2 of course is required because that's the partition spec.
[06:29] <sethk> fishy, does that make sense to you?
[06:30] <sethk> fishy, it is harder to explain than to do.
[06:30] <RootBeet> http://www.obharath.net/blog/2005/10/05/reading-files-from-windows-partitionntfs-on-ubuntu-linux/
[06:30] <Audimage> Where should i mount my second partition in ubuntu? and what file system should i format it too?
[06:30] <fishy> sethk: I know, I've mounted before. But I don't have permission to access /mnt/sda2
[06:30] <RootBeet> sudo
[06:30] <RootBeet> su
[06:30] <sethk> fishy, you have to do everything with root privileges, so use    su     or sudo
[06:31] <iLLf8d> hrm is there any way to take ubuntu and roll it up to sid?
[06:31] <fishy> sethk: What's the password on the Ubuntu Live CD?
[06:31] <sethk> fishy, I don't know.
[06:31] <sethk> fishy, you probably have wide open sudo privileges, though
[06:31] <fishy> sethk: And I use "sudo" to get to the sda2 (sudo cd /mnt/sda2) and I get an error.  "sudo: cd: command not found
[06:31] <fishy> "
[06:31] <jvai> well, on knoppix, it sudo <command> no password
[06:32] <sethk> fishy, the bozos think it is somehow safer to hide the root password and then give every user permission to do everything.
[06:32] <fishy> sethk: The password isn't really the problem. "cd" doesn't seem to exist.
[06:32] <Audimage> I am trying to mount my second partition, i am not sure where i should mount it to and what file system i should format it as
[06:32] <Audimage> any tips?
[06:32] <sethk> fishy, cd is a shell built in
[06:32] <sethk> fishy, why do you think it doesn't exist?
[06:32] <fishy> sethk: How do I remount something?
[06:32] <fishy> sethk: "sudo: cd: command not found"
[06:32] <sethk> fishy, safest way is to umount, then mount
[06:33] <sethk> fishy, you don't use cd with sudo
[06:33] <sethk> fishy, it isn't a program, it is a shell built in.
[06:33] <iLLf8d> Audimage, mount it wherever you like as long as you add it to fstab, as for the partition type try ext3
[06:33] <RootBeet> fishy install windows 3.11 bro and crack open a beer.
[06:33] <sethk> fishy, get a root prompt by doing sudo -i
[06:33] <jvai> i can see all the pc's @ work, but i cant access any of the shares, what do i do?
[06:33] <fishy> sethk: Then how do I get into /mnt/sda2 ?
[06:33] <Audimage> fstab?
[06:33] <sethk> fishy, cd /mnt/sda2
[06:33] <jvai> i can get email/print, but that's it
[06:33] <sethk> fishy, if you can't do that,  then do    sudo -i        then at the next prompt do   cd /mnt/sda2
[06:34] <dyclops> hi
[06:34] <iLLf8d> Audimage do you have ubuntu installed or are you refering to your second partition as one in the installer?
[06:34] <zerodni> jvai, how are you accessing the pc are you useing samba
[06:34] <sethk> jvai, probably you need to match up the user name and password to the windows network
[06:34] <dyclops> ubuntu will not mount my home directory any longer !!!
[06:34] <Audimage> illf8d, how do i add it to fstab and will the data on the partition be avaliable if i reinstall ubuntu?
[06:34] <zerodni> sethk, yep just what i was thinking LOL
[06:34] <Audimage> i have ununtu installed
[06:34] <dyclops> it goes through the disk checking procedure
[06:34] <dyclops> and then throws me out to a shell
[06:34] <jvai> ooo, i dl'ed samba, but i didnt like the open 139 port thru firestarter, so i let samba go
[06:34] <iLLf8d> Audimage depends on the setup is it one disk or 2?
[06:34] <ISOLATEDViRuS> !multiverse
[06:34] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:35] <Aeo> I'm having trouble installing the Flash player. I get an 'automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes' message when running 'sudo update-flashplugin. Any ideas?
[06:35] <jvai> i need samba for the shares?
[06:35] <dyclops> saying it cannot find sda2 is broken
[06:35] <Audimage> i am trying to mount my second partition (empty) and im not sure what file system to format ir as, and i  am not sure where to mount it
[06:35] <sethk> dyclops, boot the live cd,  and run   fsck.ext3 /dev/whatever      (/dev/whatever is your file system where home is)
[06:35] <iLLf8d> Audimage, you have the option in the installer to let it do it and then it prompts you to nuke everything or not
[06:35] <sethk> dyclops, right.  use fsck to fix it.
[06:35] <Toran> What program can I use in Ubuntu to edit AVIs?
[06:35] <sethk> dyclops, do you have a separate /home partition?
[06:35] <dyclops> sethk, yes, I do
[06:36] <iLLf8d> Audimage, you said that already, saying it again doesn't help at all
[06:36] <zerodni> jvai, not the samba server the client
[06:36] <jvai> how do i filter ports thru firestarter? i dont see the options to do it
[06:36] <iLLf8d> Audimage, gimme a bit more info about where your'e at, what you're trying to do and your hardware setup and I'll try to give you the answer you want
[06:36] <ryctor> Aeo:just coy the plugin files in the mozilla plugins folder
[06:36] <Audimage> illf8di don't need the installer, ubuntu is installed...i
[06:36] <ryctor> copy, that is
[06:37] <iLLf8d> you just mentioned reinstalling it tho thats why I'm asking for more info
[06:37] <the1> Toran: X11 forwarding to movie maker running on IRIX? If you can convert to DV, use kino
[06:37] <jvai> yes, zerodni, i added the sambe client, but i saw the open 139 port
[06:37] <jvai> so i uninstalled samba
[06:37] <drcode> hi all
[06:37] <ryctor> if you open the script that is what it does
[06:37] <Aeo> thanks ryctor, I'll figure that out
[06:37] <Audimage> i'd like to use my second partition to store data when i reformat
[06:37] <christopher2> if I install php from source, would I be able to run the debian-only "a2enmod" ?
[06:37] <sethk> dyclops, ok,  you might be able to do it then without booting the live cd
[06:37] <drcode> any one using skype?
[06:37] <zerodni> jvai, you souldnt need to just make sure you do like smb://your windows login name @thecompter/sharename
[06:37] <the1> Toran: cinelerra if you have a powerful machine
[06:37] <sethk> dyclops, try from your prompt:    fsck.ext3 -f /dev/sda2
[06:37] <fishy> sethk: Ok, I got my files. Now, is there any way to get rid of GRUB, just bypass it and boot directly into Windows?
[06:37] <sethk> drcode, I use it occasionally
[06:37] <jvai> ooo
[06:38] <zerodni> i can do this with just smbfs installed but i mount my shares but if you have ubutnu you sould be good
[06:38] <sethk> fishy, you can put the windows boot loader back on the mbr
[06:38] <aliendream23> sethk, what exactly should I see when I use the route command
[06:38] <Toran> would an amd64 3200+ be good enough, the1 ?
[06:38] <sethk> fishy, from the windows recovery console, or by booting a windows cd that gives you a prompt
[06:38] <drcode> it also server?
[06:38] <Audimage> illf8d, do you understand?
[06:38] <dyclops> sethk, I mounted my home dir manually, I can't seem to unmount it before i run fsck
[06:38] <jvai> i tried today with the "connet to server" in "places" but i couldnt open it
[06:38] <sethk> aliendream23, a bunch of lines telling you where things are to be sent.  one line should have a destination of 0.0.0.0.  that's the default route.
[06:38] <iLLf8d> Audimage, somewhat yes because you don't completely understand
[06:38] <jvai> i tried w/ ssh
[06:38] <sethk> aliendream23, if you don't have a default route, that's your problem.
[06:39] <slavik> is there any reason why I wouldn't be able to see windows shares on the network with the default samba config?
[06:39] <jvai> thru port 22
[06:39] <iLLf8d> Audimage, you should have at least 2 partitions already (minimum)
[06:39] <subpar> irrelevant, but thank you ubuntu, I am now a complete linux convert :) I'm about to get rid of windows as we speak :)
[06:39] <aliendream23> ok, hang on, comps are in different ends of the house
[06:39] <iLLf8d> and this new second partition you're calling it will at least be your 3rd or more
[06:39] <nomasteryoda> subpar, sweet
[06:39] <nomasteryoda> ubuntu is very much a breath of fresh air in a stale monoculture cesspool
[06:40] <iLLf8d> Audimage: if its not being used by ubuntu ie doesn't show up when you type the command mount in terminal
[06:40] <the1> Toran: I think they recomend at least dual SMP, and a few gigs of RAM...you could try it
[06:40] <subpar> adieu, it's time for me to do some reformattin' :)
[06:40] <zerodni> jvai,  that will work too if you can use fish if you have knoqueror
[06:40] <Audimage> illf8d, I have 2 partitions on my HDD, one of them ubuntu is installed on (i am using it now) and the second one i want to use as data storage, i need to mount the second partition so i can add data to it for storage
[06:40] <jvai> i want to make aq ssh server from feathr linux, so when i take this box on the cruise, i can ssh t oit.. but i havent figured it out
[06:40] <jvai> oo i'm on gtnome zerodni
[06:40] <iLLf8d> Audimage, ok I gotcha you have 2 partitions on it (and if you're planning on adding a 3rd you can)
[06:41] <fishy> sethk: What's the Windows boot loader, and where do I find the mbr?
[06:41] <iLLf8d> Audimage swap is one partition and the / will be the other unless you made more
[06:41] <zerodni> jvai, im not sure is fish is in gnome but you can try to mount them using the sshfs  package
[06:41] <Audimage> illf8d, i don't have a swap partition
[06:41] <jvai> ok
[06:41] <iLLf8d> sure you do you just don't know it
[06:42] <sethk> fishy, the mbr is the first sector of your hard drive
[06:42] <the1> Toran: you want to edit in DV...so convert your avi
[06:42] <Audimage> that might be true
[06:42] <sethk> fishy, the windows boot loader is the thing windows installs onto your hard drive to boot windows
[06:42] <Audimage> but it looks like 2 partitions to me
[06:42] <fishy> sethk: Would it have a file like "Dellboot.exe" in it?
[06:42] <sethk> fishy, no
[06:42] <iLLf8d> uhm anyone know wtf the root password is in this so I can use fdisk
[06:42] <Toran> the1: How would I go about doing that?
[06:42] <fishy> sethk: Well, that's the first sector of my drive.
[06:42] <sethk> fishy, dellboot.exe might do the same thing, but of course I have no idea.
[06:43] <the1> iLLf8d:sudo passwd root and set it yourself
[06:43] <strav> anyone familiar with vmware server? (I already posted on #vmware, everyone is sleepin) The prog dosen't seem to recognize any bootable disk... (I'm trying to run windows xp as a guest, which is located on the first partition of my master drive)
[06:43] <dyclops> sethk: where are the boot logs kept - so i can show you exactly what the problem is...
[06:43] <Audimage> illf8d, it is random unless you set it
[06:43] <fishy> sethk: It has a lot of .mdm and .lst and files starting with dell
[06:43] <sethk> fishy, the first sector of your drive has 512 characters.  it cannot be 12 characters long.
[06:43] <sethk> fishy, no, no, that's your directory.  that has nothing to do with what we are talking about
[06:43] <aliendream23> sethk, is it supposed to read in collumns or rows when I use the route command?
[06:43] <fishy> sethk: I'm not sure where to find it, then. Is it mountable?
[06:43] <sethk> aliendream23, who knows?
[06:43] <fishy> sethk: How would I modify it?
[06:43] <iLLf8d> Audimage, do this sudo fdisk /dev/hda then hit p and then q to exit (don't tell it to save)
[06:43] <aliendream23> it is a wee bit confusing
[06:44] <aliendream23> ok, under destination = 192.168.1.0 and under that it sais default. under gateway = *, under that is router. genmask = 255.255.255.0, under that 0.0.0.0. under flags = U under that UG.
[06:44] <Audimage> I am still not clear on what i should do with my second partition, what file system should i format it as, and where should i mount it?
[06:44] <iLLf8d> Audimage: then you'll see what you really have
[06:44] <the1> Toran: use ffmpeg
[06:44] <Toran> wait, kino seems to be able to import avis
[06:44] <sethk> fishy, you boot a recovery cd.  on that cd you'll have a program, fdisk.  you run at your c:\ prompt:     fdisk/mbr
[06:44] <Toran> It said "would you like to import this file? it isn't DV" when I tried to open it
[06:44] <iLLf8d> Audimage: don't play around in that util other then that cause you can nuke it all unless you know what you're doing
[06:44] <sethk> fishy, you can download a bootable cd (or floppy) with the program from the 'net.
[06:45] <nomasteryoda> well said iLLf8d
[06:45] <iLLf8d> thanks I guess =P
[06:45] <the1> Toran:could you open it?
[06:45] <Audimage> i have 2 partitions, hda1 and hda2
[06:45] <Toran> the1: yep
[06:45] <Audimage> hda1 has ubuntu on it
[06:45] <aliendream23> it looks like it reads in collumns, the first being destination - 192.168.1.0 - default
[06:45] <Audimage> hda2 i am wanting to use for storage
[06:45] <sethk> Audimage, you should have just used one partition
[06:45] <sethk> Audimage, make it ext3
[06:45] <sethk> Audimage, hda2 is empty?
[06:45] <SpaceFrog> What do I do with a .sh.gz file?
[06:46] <the1> Toran: sweet, I've had issues in the past with kino's import function working right
[06:46] <SpaceFrog> I want to install it
[06:46] <iLLf8d> wow so you have no swap from that command thats wierd
[06:46] <Audimage> yes
[06:46] <dyclops> can someone tell me where the boot logs are kept?
[06:46] <Toran> I have loads of codecs and mplayer installed
[06:46] <Toran> that may have helped
[06:46] <dyclops> /var/log..??
[06:46] <sethk> aliendream23, sorry, run it this way:     route -n
[06:46] <sethk> aliendream23, your name resolution isn't working either.
[06:46] <Toran> it seemed to use mplayer (in the console I saw mplayer-like output)
[06:46] <Toran> mencoder, rather
[06:46] <sethk> aliendream23, that sounds like you do have the correct default route
[06:46] <Toran> part of the same project, though
[06:46] <Audimage> sethk i WANT 2 partitions, i just need to know how to mount the second one
[06:46] <iLLf8d> Audimage if you have no swap you should reinstall and add it
[06:46] <the1> SpaceFron: gzip -d file.sh.gz; chmod +x file.sh;./file.sh
[06:46] <sethk> aliendream23, I mean _don't_
[06:47] <sethk> aliendream23, can you capture the output of     route -n        and put it on the paste web site?
[06:47] <Audimage> illf8d, why does it matter? what is the swap partition used for?
[06:47] <aliendream23> no
[06:47] <iLLf8d> Audimage: or you can create it and make it swap and turn it on
[06:47] <aliendream23> the comp it is on has no internet at all
[06:47] <fishy> sethk: Would doing "fdisk/mbr" screw with any of my files?
[06:47] <iLLf8d> Audimage: think of it as virtual memory
[06:47] <sethk> Audimage, swap is used to make it appear as if your machine has more memory than it really does
[06:47] <sethk> fishy, no
[06:47] <fishy> sethk: Would something like the "Ultimate Boot CD" work for that?
[06:47] <Audimage> illf8d, so i don't need it...
[06:47] <sethk> fishy, it certainly sounds likely.  yes.
[06:47] <Audimage> i've got a gig of memory
[06:48] <sethk> fishy, I haven't used it myself but I've been told that it is a good one that has that capability.
[06:48] <sethk> Audimage, odds are you don't need swap
[06:48] <iLLf8d> Audimage: ok if you say so I'll letya figure out the partitioning and mount thing then since you'll hit your 1G ceiling and then want to reinstall anyway
[06:48] <the1> I still use swap on my machines that have 4GB RAM
[06:48] <sethk> Audimage, and you can always add swap in a normal file system, rather than using a swap partition, should you have some unusual need for extra memory.
[06:48] <Audimage> thats what i htought it was for, and also why i didn't partition one
[06:48] <the1> it hardly ever gets used, but is good to have just in case
[06:49] <sethk> Audimage, it's much slower that way, but it's available
[06:49] <the1> my machines with 1gb use swap a lot!
[06:49] <sethk> Audimage, that's fine
[06:49] <iLLf8d> sethk: you serious? who doesn't fill up 1G of memory
[06:49] <sethk> iLLf8d, people like me who build machines with only 32 meg of it.
[06:49] <sethk> iLLf8d, depends on what you are doing.
[06:49] <iLLf8d> sethk: yeah but you're not running ubuntu with a gui then
[06:49] <jsilva> Hi, I have a problem with cpu temperature, when I connect a usb storage device, the temperature increment about 10 grades, and don't decrement. I have a laptop with amd sempron, anyone has a similar problem?
[06:49] <sethk> iLLf8d, no, not on those boxes.
[06:50] <Audimage> how do i check how much memory i am using?
[06:50] <sethk> iLLf8d, but this machine has two gigs of memory and it's never had to use swap.  I have some 512 meg machines that have never used their swap.
[06:50] <iLLf8d> I used to run x on a 486/75 lappy with 32M worked fine
[06:50] <iain> What does Ubuntu use to automount drives?
[06:50] <iLLf8d> but no ubuntu =P
[06:50] <unfknblvbl> if i wanted to make my own themes where could i start reading ?
[06:50] <sethk> Audimage, top is a program that will show you interesting things about resource usage on your box.
[06:50] <the1> Audimage:top will show used total memory and how much different processes use
[06:51] <sethk> iLLf8d, as an example, my mail server has 512 meg of memory and never uses it's swap.  in fact it never even uses all 512 meg.
[06:51] <Audimage> where do i get it?
[06:51] <iLLf8d> Mem:        776060     431752     344308 <- my mem stats with ubuntu and xchat-gnome running and the canned defaults
[06:51] <iLLf8d> so we're looking at burning up 780M just with a chat client going
[06:51] <sethk> iLLf8d, remember though that linux does not reclaim available memory unless it runs out.
[06:51] <sethk> iLLf8d, so that figure isn't real.
[06:52] <the1> jsilva: sempron supports Cool'n'Quiet
[06:52] <iLLf8d> sethk: lemme restart to see what the default with xchat eats
[06:52] <iLLf8d> sethk: wonder how much it'll be
[06:52] <jsilva> the1: I'll read about that :) mine is amd sempron k8
[06:52] <crimsun> unfknblvbl: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation
[06:52] <Emigre> Hello.  I'm trying to get Rythymbox to play mp3 files, but can't figure out how to do so. How can I do this?
[06:53] <sethk> iLLf8d, xchat is a bit of a pig, but a gig is a lot of memory.
[06:53] <aliendream23> sethk detination - 192.168.1.0 - 0.0.0.0      gateway - 0.0.0.0 - 192.168.1.1     genmask - 255.255.255.0 - 0.0.0.0
[06:53] <the1> jsilva: you might be able to use cpufreq-selector to set a lower cpu speed
[06:53] <iLLf8d> yeah for linux its a good amount
[06:53] <unfknblvbl> cheders crimsun
[06:53] <unfknblvbl> s/sheers/cheder
[06:53] <arnducky> crimsun!
[06:53] <tinchio>  Hello everyone
[06:53] <ryctor> use top to see what is chewing all that ram
[06:53] <Audimage> how do i create a swap partition?
[06:53] <the1> on my Athlon-m I do cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies and then
[06:53] <sethk> aliendream23, ok, that looks correct.
[06:53] <Audimage> w/o reinstalling
[06:53] <the1> cpufreq-selector -f freq_I_wanna_use
[06:54] <sethk> aliendream23, now,  do this:      cat /etc/resolv.conf               that will print the IP address(es) of your name server(s).  try to ping them.
[06:54] <ryctor> i have 377MB and with xchat its only using200mb
[06:54] <tinchio> I have  a question related to Vmware, has anyone here used it?
[06:54] <jsilva> the1: well, when I type with "/proc/cpuinfo" get "stepping        : 0"
[06:54] <the1> jsilva: you can also set different frequency scaling modes
[06:54] <sethk> aliendream23, if the ping fails, try:         traceroute ###.###.###.###       (where ###.... is the ip of the name server)
[06:54] <arnducky> you solved a couple asound problems for me once-upon-a-time.  How're you doing, crimsun ?
[06:54] <iLLf8d> Audimage: how long did your install takeya? it'd probably be faster for you to reinstall then for us to explain it toya you'd need to use fdisk, mkswap and swapon
[06:55] <ryctor> I use vmware all the time
[06:55] <the1> jsilva: it should be supported by the cpu, perhaps it is not supported by your kernel?
[06:55] <dyclops> sethk, OK. I rand fsck as you suggested. No problems. I rebooted, still have the problem. During the boot process, checking all filesystems it complains about Bad /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2.....Yet, my root filesystem is sdb1, swap is sdb2 and home si sdb3. It then drops me to a shell as root where i can startx.
[06:55] <iLLf8d> Audimage: then at the same time you could easily add in your extra mountpoint/partition
[06:55] <dyclops> any ideas?
[06:55] <Audimage> illf8d, i installed at a friends house with broadband so i could get the kde environment, i can't do that here (dialup)
[06:55] <iLLf8d> all guified
[06:55] <Audimage> illf8d, reinstalling isn't really an option right now
[06:55] <iLLf8d> oh no cd?
[06:55] <iLLf8d> hrm
[06:55] <iLLf8d> ok
[06:55] <jsilva> the1: I have a precompilated ubuntu kernell 2.6.15-27-k7
[06:55] <iLLf8d> open a term
[06:55] <Audimage> illf8d, i have a cd for ubuntu, but installed kubuntu too
[06:56] <Audimage> and i don't have a cd for it
[06:56] <the1> jsilva: I have the powernowd package installed, it might contain a necessary kenel module
[06:56] <tinchio> ryctor,  i actually have it running but now i have one issue
[06:56] <ryctor> ?
[06:56] <iLLf8d> then do sudo fdisk /dev/hda (then after it starts hit p and then q w/out doing anything else atm) and paste it to a query window for me please (/query iLLf8d)
[06:56] <Audimage> illf8d: open
[06:57] <dyclops> It appears during boot, my system is trying to axs my windows drive and mount it rather then my /home
[06:57] <dyclops> I don't know what has happened/gone wrong !!!
[06:57] <aliendream23> sethk, that file is empty
[06:57] <tinchio> ryctor,  today i updated the kernel to 2.6.15.27 and when i try to run it i says that it must be reconfigured, ok i tried to do it but in one of the steps i asks me
[06:57] <tinchio> ryctor,  "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[06:57] <tinchio> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[06:57] <tinchio> The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.15.7-ubuntu1) does not match your
[06:57] <tinchio> running kernel (version 2.6.15-27-k7).  Even if the module were to compile
[06:57] <tinchio> successfully, it would not load into the running kernel.
[06:57] <tinchio> "
[06:57] <Audimage> illf8d, i am posting it to you, so idon't spam the window
[06:58] <jsilva> the1: I have it installed, but it doesn't let me load it "# modprobe powernow-k8 FATAL: Error inserting powernow_k8 (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k8.ko): No such device
[06:58] <jbu> hi all, i just downloaded a theme but it has no readme or install-readme, so i dont know how to install it.  I went to preferences>themes to try to install it but i don't know which file to select to install it, can someone help?
[06:58] <jbu> desktop theme*
[06:58] <jsilva> the1: is k7 kernel the problem?
[06:58] <killown> eh o irmau do killown onde consigo legendas
[06:58] <killown> dos filmes to com filme sem legenda
[06:58] <ryctor> remember that you compiled the module with the old kernel, its asking for the linux-headers files of the new one, apt-get install linux-headers-kernel-version
[06:59] <iLLf8d> hrm were do ctcp versions messages show in this xchat-gnome client?
[06:59] <dyclops> Anyone know what is wrong?
[06:59] <the1> jsilva: I have a k7 kernel and powernowd cpu scaling works for me
[06:59] <brian98> tgelter: Still here?
[06:59] <killown> where have legend these move
[06:59] <iLLf8d> Audimage: what are you on that you're not sending a version reply?
[07:00] <sethk> dyclops, did your /etc/fstab file become corrupted?
[07:00] <tinchio> ryctor,  i have already downloaded them where are them supposed to be located?
[07:00] <jbu> hi all, i just downloaded a theme but it has no readme or install-readme, so i dont know how to install it. I went to preferences>themes to try to install it but i don't know which file to select to install it, can someone help?
[07:00] <iLLf8d> sethk: just testing to see if that was working
[07:00] <the1> hope this isn't too much flood
[07:00] <the1> $ modprobe -l|grep power
[07:00] <the1> /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-k7/kernel/drivers/usb/input/powermate.ko
[07:00] <the1> /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-k7/kernel/drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq_powersave.ko
[07:00] <the1> /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-k7/kernel/drivers/char/ipmi/ipmi_poweroff.ko
[07:00] <the1> /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-k7/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k8.ko
[07:00] <the1> /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-k7/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k7.ko
[07:00] <the1> /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-k7/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k6.ko
[07:00] <Audimage> i am using gaim
[07:00] <iLLf8d> sethk: thanks for the meminfo before I didn't realize that it didn't reclaim it till needed
[07:00] <zerodni> dyclops, make sure that you /home is pointing to the corect /dev/hd* in your /etc/fstab
[07:00] <iLLf8d> ah
[07:00] <ryctor> /usr/src/and rename the file to linux
[07:00] <iLLf8d> ok lemme get on gaim
[07:00] <aliendream23> what do I do if /etc/resolv.conf is empty?
[07:00] <Emigre> Nevermind, fixed.
[07:01] <jsilva> the1: doesnt work for me. all work realy fine but when I connect usb storage devices, only storage type, the temperature increment a lot
[07:01] <tinchio> ryctor, ok i'll try thanks
[07:01] <fishy> Anyone here familiar with FreeDOS?
[07:01] <ryctor> as in the .zip file now located in /usr/src with the name linux-headers-version, unpackit and rename it
[07:01] <the1> jsilva: might just be bad design of your chipset/motherboard/usb controller
[07:01] <iLLf8d> Audimage: you using the aim, yahoo, msn etc... or which service?
[07:02] <the1> jsilva: hard to know if it is a software or hardware problem
[07:02] <ryctor> i am a freebsd freak
[07:02] <jvai> gn peepz
[07:02] <Audimage> GAIM, it is installed by default in ubuntu
[07:02] <iLLf8d> ryctor: good kinda freak to be =)
[07:02] <dyclops> reboot 2. See if this has fixed it.
[07:02] <dyclops> Cheers
[07:02] <iLLf8d> Audimage: ah so you haven't added an account to an im server? only to irc?
[07:02] <jsilva> the1: maybe, In the spanish mailing list, I knew a guy with the same mother board and usb hd and with the same problem
[07:03] <iLLf8d> Audimage: I don't see a private message window from you in irc or a paste from you in the private message window I opened back to you
[07:03] <Audimage> illf8d, i posted my account info to you
[07:03] <ryctor> its just that in Ubuntu, everything works out of the box, and I have spent too much time watching my display in countless lines of compiling hours
[07:04] <iLLf8d> Audimage: sorry dunno what you mean by posted?
[07:04] <Audimage> illf8d, i posted it to you in a prv chat window
[07:04] <jsilva> the1: How can I know what program/daemon init when I connect a storage device? and what is the different between usb storage devices and others like usb mouse, with mice I haven't that problem
[07:04] <iLLf8d> oh it never showed up on my end
[07:04] <Audimage> typed it to you
[07:04] <aliendream23> sethk, the file you told me to open is totally empty
[07:04] <Audimage> ok, try again...
[07:04] <sethk> jsilva, really smells like a hardware problem to me as well.
[07:04] <sethk> aliendream23, /etc/resolv.conf is empty?
[07:04] <aliendream23> yep, a blank page
[07:04] <Audimage> see it then illf8d?
[07:05] <sethk> aliendream23, in that case you will not be able to resolve any names, so it would appear that you can't get to the 'net.
[07:05] <the1> jsilva: lsof will show you who is accessing the /dev file for your drive
[07:05] <iLLf8d> Audimage: no don't think so
[07:05] <jsilva> sethk: maybe the kernel doesnt have full support with this motherboard :(
[07:05] <sethk> aliendream23, to be 100% sure,   do           ls -l /etc/resolv.conf          make sure the size is 0
[07:05] <iLLf8d> Audimage: do this command in gaim for me willya (dunno if it'll work or not)
[07:05] <sethk> jsilva, yes, or there are kernel build options set incorrectly.
[07:05] <iLLf8d> Audimage: /query iLLf8d
[07:05] <iLLf8d> then hit return
[07:05] <aliendream23> ok, I will, but I browsed to it, and it reads 0, brb
[07:05] <Audimage> send me you're msn account then, and i'll add you
[07:06] <iLLf8d> I don't have one
[07:06] <iLLf8d> heh
[07:06] <sethk> aliendream23, you are probably correct, but it doesn't hurt to doublecheck.
[07:06] <iLLf8d> I don't run windows
[07:06] <jsilva> the1: thanks, that is a good idea, maybe that program/daemon keep running after umount usb storage devices
[07:06] <iLLf8d> osx, freebsd, debian, ubuntu, openbsd
[07:06] <iLLf8d> i'm winders free
[07:06] <ISOLATEDViRuS> *claps*
[07:06] <dyclops> Thank you all. It appears my fstab was corrupted when I changed some disks. Thus it was looking for things during boot that were not there
[07:06] <the1> *windoze free?
[07:06] <dyclops> Thanks
[07:07] <ISOLATEDViRuS> ive been winders free for 2 weeks now.
[07:07] <sethk> iLLf8d, what's wrong with netbsd?    :)
[07:07] <SpaceFrog> how do i run .sh files?
[07:07] <iLLf8d> yeah for a few years now
[07:07] <arnducky> iLLf8d, I wish I was <sigh>
[07:07] <iLLf8d> sethk: too many oses too little time
[07:07] <the1> ./file.sh
[07:07] <arnducky> (I had a relapse)
[07:07] <jsilva> sethk: maybe, but I get lost changing the kernel options and recompiling it :(
[07:07] <aliendream23> I believe it just told me it is 0
[07:07] <Audimage> illf8d, i did it again
[07:07] <dyclops> SpaceFrog, chmod +x file.sh
[07:07] <ryctor> actually i run vmware with xp for a couple of remote monitoring programs for DVR's
[07:07] <the1> SpaceFrog: if it's permissions are set to executable
[07:07] <sethk> SpaceFrog, well, there is no such thing as a .sh file.  however, many people name shell scripts with .sh.   you can either   chmod +x    the file and then run it by name, or do    sh filename
[07:07] <aliendream23> how do I fix that??
[07:07] <dyclops> ./file.sh
[07:07] <iLLf8d> Audimage: I dunno what gaims doing it must not be using the irc server to send the pm
[07:07] <dyclops> or sh file.sh
[07:08] <iLLf8d> Audimage: install xchat-gnome and join freenode #ubuntu
[07:08] <the1> ya...sh file.sh is sometimes necessary
[07:08] <donald_> hello can any one help me after adding the kde desktop my root password is not m
[07:08] <iLLf8d> its a better irc client anywa
[07:08] <iLLf8d> y
[07:08] <sethk> aliendream23, do you know your DNS server IPs?
[07:08] <the1> I think the quake installer fails if you just do ./sh on ubuntu
[07:08] <Audimage> gimme a sec
[07:08] <the1> *quake3
[07:08] <aliendream23> h'mmm hang on
[07:08] <donald_> working
[07:08] <sethk> aliendream23, if you are running the gui, then network-admin has a tab to set them.  otherwise you can edit /etc/resolv.conf
[07:09] <sethk> aliendream23, as root, of course.
[07:09] <aliendream23> seth, what should the file look like?
[07:09] <ryctor> man sudo
[07:09] <aliendream23> wait
[07:09] <sethk> aliendream23, for each name server, you have a line:
[07:09] <sethk> aliendream23,    nameserver ###.###.###.###
[07:10] <iLLf8d> sethk: any way to get sudo to cache the password once a session like ssh-agent/keychains kinda thing?
[07:10] <sethk> optionally you can have a search line, but don't worry about that for now.
[07:10] <sethk> iLLf8d, no, sudo is a joke
[07:10] <iLLf8d> yeah I don't like it much mainly cause I'm lazy
[07:11] <aliendream23> ok, I should be able to just use the same settings as on this comp, right???
[07:11] <aliendream23> same network
[07:11] <sethk> aliendream23, yes
[07:11] <aliendream23> COOOOOL
[07:11] <aliendream23> lemme try
[07:11] <sethk> aliendream23, k
[07:12] <iLLf8d> this xchat versions oogie
[07:12] <iLLf8d> blarg
[07:12] <Audimage> gaim rocks
[07:13] <iLLf8d> its ok when it works
[07:13] <iLLf8d> very im like
[07:14] <Audimage> still dling xchat
[07:14] <iLLf8d> gotcha
[07:14] <Audimage> shouldn't be much longer
[07:14] <brian98> everyone: freenx !! What an application :)
[07:14] <brian98> WOW
[07:15] <brian98> it's like vnc on steroids
[07:15] <brian98> :)
[07:15] <iLLf8d> not familiar with it
[07:16] <brian98> http://www.nomachine.com/
[07:16] <aliendream23> sethk, I would like to buy you a beer
[07:16] <mister_roboto> iLLf8d: why not just leave a root shell open?
[07:16] <tinchio> ryctor, it worked, thanks a lot ;)
[07:16] <aliendream23> I found a thread on ubuntu forums, two other chaps with the same problem, going to go post this solution and be happy. THANK YOU
[07:17] <iLLf8d> mister_roboto: you mean rather then using sudo?
[07:17] <sethk> aliendream23, np
[07:17] <audimage_> get it that time illf8d?
[07:17] <sethk> at least I fixed one problem tonight.
[07:17] <SpaceFrog> is there a way i can run as su in X ?
[07:17] <mister_roboto> iLLf8d: yes, if you are going to be doing a lot of root stuff, just leave a window open  "sudo -i" and keep using it
[07:17] <sethk> SpaceFrog, sure
[07:17] <sethk> SpaceFrog, set the root password.  nothing in ubuntu w.r.t. root is different from any other linux distro.
[07:18] <SpaceFrog> ah, thanks
[07:18] <audimage_> illf8d, did you get my message?
[07:18] <iLLf8d> nope unless I can't find it in this new xchat client its listing my channels and queries to the left if I'm reading it right (then I didn't get it)
[07:18] <audimage_> i just installed it
[07:19] <iLLf8d> mister_roboto: dunno always had root before never bothered much with sudo
[07:19] <iLLf8d> well a root I could log into I mean
[07:20] <SpaceFrog> How do i copy everything in a directory? cp *.* /destination/*.* ?
[07:20] <iLLf8d> audimage_ you're still not returning a version response whatya really running?
[07:20] <the1> no need for *.* at your destination
[07:21] <audimage_> i swear, i just typed in...
[07:21] <audimage_> sudo apt-get install xchat
[07:21] <the1> and you need cp -r if you want to recursively copy subdirectories
[07:21] <sethk> SpaceFrog, use   cp -av *
[07:21] <audimage_> and this is what im using
[07:21] <iLLf8d> -iLLf8d- VERSION xchat-gnome 0.11 Linux 2.6.15-27-386 [i686]  <- your version response default should look like this
[07:21] <audimage_> want me to send a damn screenshot?
[07:21] <sethk> SpaceFrog, remember, *.* is incorrect windows garbage
[07:21] <sethk> SpaceFrog, *.* does _not_ match, for example, the file name xyz
[07:21] <audimage_> help>about gives me this Linux 2.6.15-27-386 [i686/2.67GHz] 
[07:21] <audimage_> Charset: UTF-8 Renderer: Pango
[07:21] <audimage_> Compiled: Aug 30 2006
[07:21] <sethk> SpaceFrog, * means everything.  a unix file can by xyz, or xyz.abc,  or abc.def.xyz, etc.
[07:22] <audimage_> xchat 2.6.6
[07:22] <iLLf8d> hrm
[07:22] <Taim> for eft install cd, anybody know what the default pw is?
[07:22] <iLLf8d> maybe its this client I'm running then
[07:22] <iLLf8d> one sec lemme change it
[07:23] <the1> are there user passwords?
[07:23] <the1> on the install cds?
[07:23] <Taim> Must be.
[07:23] <sethk> the1, I don't believe so, only user names
[07:23] <Taim> root w/ blank password doesn't work.
[07:23] <JimmiJones> ping DBO any thoughts?
[07:23] <sethk> the1, during the install you set user passwords, at least for one user.
[07:23] <the1> Taim: sudo passwd root to set root's password
[07:24] <sethk> the1, you can set the passwords later, or change any password you want, since security is completely broken
[07:24] <DBO> JimmiJones, im working right now unfortunately
[07:24] <JimmiJones> cool, b around tomorrow?
[07:24] <Taim> the1: I would if I could, but I am staring at a console w/ no logins.
[07:24] <iLLf8d> ib I don't have it available in my sources list yet I just installed ubuntu before I joined here gotta find the right sources so I can install the non gnomish version of xchat
[07:24] <DBO> JimmiJones, join #ubuntu-xgl
[07:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> Taim, have you just run an install?
[07:24] <sethk> Taim, you'll have to boot the live cd, mount the root partition somewhere, do a chroot, then set passwords
[07:24] <audimage_> illf8d, do you have msn?
[07:24] <mister_roboto> sethk: what do you mean security is totally broken?
[07:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell Taim about root
[07:24] <Taim> I booted the CD.
[07:25] <iLLf8d> nope only im client I have is yahoo iirc
[07:25] <Taim> Kamping_Kaiser: X is broke as I need ati or fglrx driver
[07:25] <iLLf8d> thats just cause I use their webmail for my spam accounts ie forums subscriptions etc...
[07:25] <audimage_> well, i guess we'll just have to talk here, so...how do i create a swap partition?
[07:25] <Taim> Kamping_Kaiser: so, I am booted back to a console which is asking for login.
[07:25] <sethk> mister_roboto, the nonsense with sudo and blank root password. replaces the traditional unix security model with something where the ordinary user can do everything.
[07:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> Taim, on the live cd? try ubuntu, but last i knew there was no pass
[07:26] <Taim> Kamping_Kaiser: That worked.  Thanks.
[07:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> Taim, cool :)
[07:26] <iLLf8d> audimage_: you'll want to use fdisk to add in 2 partitions the one you want to use as swap, then the one you want to use as an archive partition
[07:26] <Taim> Kamping_Kaiser: I only knew of root.
[07:26] <mister_roboto> sethk: that's just nonsense. it's no weaker than a user knowing root password and using "su -c" instead of sudo.
[07:26] <iLLf8d> audimage_: you gotta make sure you do it right or you can hose everything on the machine
[07:27] <sethk> mister_roboto, of course it is, but people get upset if we discuss it here.
[07:27] <mister_roboto> sethk: an ordinary user can't do everything if they aren't in admin group or otherwise configured in sudoers
[07:27] <iLLf8d> when you run the fdisk /dev/hda command and hit p is it showing you freespace too? if not you'l lhave to destroy the archive partition you may have created then add in the swap then the archive for the remaining space
[07:28] <mister_roboto> sethk: i say it's not. please go ahead and say why you thinik it is. who cares if someone gets upset?
[07:28] <sethk> mister_roboto, if there is no root password, then at least one  ordinary user _must_ be able to do everything.  out the window goes that model.
[07:28] <audimage_> illf8d, how do i remove it, and how do i create new partitions
[07:28] <mister_roboto> sethk: that's silly. ordinarily that user is "root", which is exactly the same
[07:28] <Flannel> sethk: no, one ordinary user must not.  They require a password and priveledge escilation to do 'everything'
[07:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> mister_roboto, you could discuss it in -offtopic
[07:28] <iLLf8d> audimage_: is ubuntu the only thing on that machine atm?
[07:29] <quadriko> what does modified source mean?
[07:29] <audimage_> on this machine, yes
[07:29] <mister_roboto> Kamping_Kaiser: i guess it is off topic
[07:29] <iLLf8d> ok once in fdisk iirc it d to delete a partition
[07:29] <iLLf8d> it'll prompt you for its number
[07:29] <iLLf8d> as output from the p command
[07:29] <JoseStefan> sethk, it's not safe to be root all the time, and it's not safe to share a common root account between multiple admins
[07:29] <sethk> Flannel, so what?
[07:29] <Flannel> mister_roboto: only 'offtopic' becuase this is a support related channel only, sethk, if you'd be so kind as to join us in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> mister_roboto, yeh, i just didnt want to imideately jump on you people.
[07:29] <sethk> JoseStefan, how does using sudo change _any_ of that?
[07:30] <audimage_> Disk /dev/hda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
[07:30] <audimage_> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
[07:30] <audimage_> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[07:30] <audimage_>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[07:30] <audimage_> /dev/hda1               1        3916    31455238+  83  Linux
[07:30] <audimage_> /dev/hda2            3917        9729    46692922+  83  Linux
[07:30] <Flannel> audimage_: don't paste here
[07:30] <JoseStefan> sethk, with sudo, you are not root all the time, and there is no password sharing
[07:30] <iLLf8d> you guys have a paste url for him?
[07:30] <audimage_> flannel: we've been having trouble communicating ouside of here, we tried it
[07:30] <sethk> JoseStefan, so, you have sudo -i disabled?
[07:30] <iLLf8d> query windows aren't working with him
[07:30] <audimage_> or with you
[07:31] <lastnode> !paste
[07:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> sethk, and JoseStefan , could you please take this to -offtopic
[07:31] <JoseStefan> sethk, my point of view of sudo all the time is: that if a program has a security related bug, it wont leak root access
[07:31] <Flannel> audimage_: you can't sent queries because you're not registered/identified
[07:31] <iLLf8d> ah
[07:31] <JoseStefan> err, root
[07:31] <iLLf8d> that splains it
[07:31] <JoseStefan> sethk, sudo avoids leaking root priv, when programs have security holes
[07:31] <audimage_> flannel: how do i register/id
[07:31] <Flannel> JoseStefan: #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[07:32] <iLLf8d> audimage_: pick a nickname using /nick <nickname of your choice>
[07:32] <Flannel> audimage_: /msg nickserv help register
[07:32] <sethk> brb
[07:32] <iLLf8d> then type /msg nickserv register <some password of your choice>
[07:32] <iLLf8d> then type /msg nickserv identify <the password you chose>
[07:34] <iLLf8d> guess I lostem heh
[07:34] <audimage_> illf8d, can you see my messages now?
[07:35] <iLLf8d> yup
[07:35] <iLLf8d> chat in there
[07:38] <SpaceFrog> hey guys. I'm trying to get a game called Savage (native Linux game) running in Ubuntu, but I'm not sure what I'm doing.
[07:39] <SpaceFrog> Has anyone ever played it?
[07:40] <SpaceFrog> There's one step in the instructions.."After following the above steps place the libs directory within your savage folder into your linux libary directory path. Consult your distro's documentation for your libary directory path.".
[07:40] <SpaceFrog> that's just /lib/. right?
[07:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> SpaceFrog, depends what the lib is
[07:41] <SpaceFrog> oh, okay.
[07:41] <mainer> SpaceFrog: i'd say /usr/lib
[07:42] <SpaceFrog> oh, that makes sense. thanks i'll try that :)
[07:42] <ArrenLex> On that note, how DO you see your library path?
[07:42] <mainer> or perhaps /usr/local/lib it depends on the files really
[07:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> or /var/lib
[07:43] <SpaceFrog> haha, oh man. a few possibilities
[07:43] <mainer> ArrenLex: $PATH
[07:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> thats only for bins though
[07:43] <ArrenLex> That's the executable path.
[07:43] <SpaceFrog> The files  are things like libSDL, libfreetype.so, etc.
[07:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> echo $env and $environment dont seem to work :|
[07:43] <SpaceFrog> Just to name some of the ones in the directory
[07:44] <ArrenLex> Kaiser: I think you're looking for the command 'env'.
[07:44] <ArrenLex> Or 'set'.
[07:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah, env, bingo, thanks mate :)
[07:44] <mainer> shows system path statement,which is set by /etc/environment i believe
[07:45] <dfgas> this vmware player is friggin sweet
[07:45] <quadriko> what exactly is vmware player?
[07:45] <ferronrsmith> want to install .deb on a computer without net??
[07:45] <ArrenLex> Yeah. I love vmware's idea of a "player". Everyone should have that definition.
[07:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> ferronrsmith, dapper?
[07:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> double click ;)
[07:45] <dfgas> i have on my ubuntu server windows xp pro with remsktops going, and also debian 3.1 with perfect debian setup with ispconf running
[07:46] <Momal> hmm seemed updating didnt' fix my prob... the error X shows after I reboot is | API mismatch Nvidia kernel module version 1.0-7174 but X module has version 1.0-8774 make sure they both have the same version | I rerun the nvidia driver installer and X starts up. then next time I reboot it doesn't start again. anyone have any ideas??
[07:46] <zad> mornin
[07:46] <zad> anyone able to help please
[07:46] <Flannel> !ask
[07:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:46] <ferronrsmith> want to install a interpreter should i download the dependency
[07:46] <zad> i had a power cut and get errors on boot
[07:47] <zad> tried live dvd to run fsck
[07:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> ferronrsmith, yes
[07:47] <zad> but dont think it sees my sata drive which is the one that is broke
[07:47] <sethk> zad, why do you think it doesn't see it?
[07:47] <zad> any way of getting round i
[07:47] <ryctor> df -h
[07:47] <zad> because there is no driver for it
[07:47] <ferronrsmith> how do you know which dependency is already installed???
[07:47] <sethk> Momal, after the reboot, do lsmod, see if the nvidia kernel module is loaded
[07:49] <zad> just tried knoppix and that just hangs now at creating fstab....done
[07:49] <zad> doesnt get any further
[07:50] <zad> been trying all night :S
[07:50] <ferronrsmith> how do i know which dependecy is already installed??
[07:50] <ferronrsmith> don;t want to download them twice!!!
[07:51] <sethk> zad, "because there is no driver for it" is your _interpretation_.  what do you _see_?
[07:51] <Flannel> ferronrsmith: is it a package in the repositories?
[07:51] <Momal> sethk: lsmod shows: nvidia 3921884 0
[07:51] <zad> just my ide drive
[07:51] <sethk> Momal, so much for that theory.
[07:51] <zad> when i run disk util it hangs
[07:51] <Momal> lol
[07:52] <jazzrocker> ferryou should just install the interpreter.
[07:52] <sethk> zad, you are still not answering my question.  do you mean that the device /dev/sda does not exist?
[07:52] <Momal> what i dont' get is if i run the installer it runs X again till i reboot the computer then it doesn't laod again :S
[07:52] <jazzrocker> !xgl
[07:52] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:52] <zad> sethk yes its there
[07:53] <sethk> Momal, possibly it doesn't properly update xorg.conf
[07:53] <zad> whne i run fsck on it it says superblock error run e2fsck
[07:53] <zad> with block number
[07:53] <jazzrocker> what exactly are the benefits/features provided by XGL?
[07:53] <sethk> Momal, does the timestamp on xorg.conf change when you run the config?
[07:53] <zad> so i do that and it doesnt do anything
[07:53] <jazzrocker> just transparency? or does it theoretically make X run faster on native hardware?
[07:53] <sethk> zad, if it does that, the driver is most certainly loaded.
[07:53] <sontek> Is there are a reason the xlib backend wouldn't be compiled into compile when I install it aptitude
[07:53] <Flannel> jazzrocker: #ubuntu-xgl, but no, it's just eyecandy
[07:53] <jazzrocker> ahhh, ok
[07:54] <BlockNick> -)
[07:54] <jazzrocker> i sorta thought so but when i saw "OpenGL" it made me wonder if there was a speed increase. that's cool though
[07:54] <sethk> zad, are you sure it is running the correct version of fsck?  try running fsck.ext3 -f   (assuming the file system is type ext3)
[07:54] <zad> ahhh
[07:54] <BlockNick> sethk is Mark shuttleworth.
[07:55] <zad> hmm sec will get rid of knoppix
[07:55] <sethk> BlockNick, what is mark shuttleworth?
[07:55] <BlockNick> you are.
[07:56] <jazzrocker> i love it when people who are not me tell me things about me that I didn't know and that are also untrue
[07:56] <ArrenLex> I love... chocolate.
[07:56] <BlockNick> I love smokes.
[07:56] <zad> i love my mrs
[07:56] <z3r0> parawho watches bleach here?
[07:56] <zad> hmm no i dont ...expands chest
[07:57] <z3r0> hmmm weed wud be nice rite now
[07:57] <sethk> BlockNick, no
[07:57] <zad> think that was my mistake last night :P
[07:58] <ArrenLex> I heard of this thing called Ubuntu. I think it's some kind of pencil. What do you guys think about it?
[07:58] <Skarr> Hey hey hey, #ubuntu
[07:58] <ArrenLex> Actually we're #whatwelike temporarily.
[07:59] <jazzrocker> i like pens better
[07:59] <ArrenLex> I'd like to see a pen write in ZERO GRAVITY.
[07:59] <ArrenLex> *pencil own power*
[07:59] <Locke> hey how do i install the latest SDL without synaptic
[07:59] <Locke> my synaptic is broke
[07:59] <Locke> or how do i fix synaptic
[07:59] <jazzrocker> Locke, uhhh yeah, fix synaptic
[07:59] <jazzrocker> Locke, define "broke" ?
[07:59] <Skarr> How long does it take when you are installing ubuntu for it to partition 30 gigabytes?
[08:00] <Madpilot> Locke, did you break your sources.list? That seems to be the most common cause of 'Synaptic is broken'...
[08:00] <ArrenLex> To resize partitions? Or make a new partition on a blank drive?
[08:00] <alex222> did anyone get SuperKaramba working under gnome
[08:00] <ArrenLex> If you're nondestructively resizing a partition it will take a while.
[08:00] <mainer> Locke: in terminal sudo apt-get -f install
[08:00] <ArrenLex> If you're just overwriting useless space, about 5 seconds.
[08:00] <zad> sethk i still get same error couldnt find ext2 superblock:bad magic number
[08:00] <Skarr> ArrenLex: When you install ubuntu, it says 3 options : Use whole hard disk as a partition for it, or use a size. I want to use a 30 gigabyte one so it is making a new one.
[08:01] <Skarr> ArrenLex: How many minutes ~ hours will that take
[08:01] <ArrenLex> To make a new, blank partition, five seconds.
[08:01] <jazzrocker> Skarr, try. it. and. see.
[08:01] <zad> although i told it fsck.ext3
[08:01] <ArrenLex> All it has to write is the partition header.
[08:01] <Skarr> Arrenlex: When I did it it was there for like an hour.
[08:01] <Skarr> (i'm booting from the live cd obviously)
[08:02] <Skarr> I'll try it again
[08:03] <Skarr> !rules
[08:03] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:03] <Skarr> !ubuntu
[08:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[08:03] <ferronrsmith> have some problems with ubuntu..
[08:03] <ferronrsmith> Can i get help???
[08:03] <Momal> sethk: yup just checked then it does update... im getting the feeling when i reboot its loading an older module or some how replacing the new one with the old one.. where is the nvidia kernel module stored?
[08:03] <ArrenLex> !ask
[08:03] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:03] <BlockNick> !sexwithrandonhotchick
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sexwithrandonhotchick - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <ArrenLex> !stfu
[08:03] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[08:03] <ArrenLex> Aw crap. I wasn't expecting a rebuke.
[08:03] <Flannel> !botabuse
[08:03] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[08:04] <Skarr> !bot
[08:04] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[08:04] <Skarr> !ubotuissexy
[08:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about issexy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> stop abusing the bot
[08:04] <jazzrocker> i think BlockNick needs to be banned
[08:04] <ArrenLex> (00:04:55) ubuntu left the room <--- uh oh.
[08:05] <Skarr> lmao
[08:05] <zad> whats cmnd for listing sata diveces?
[08:05] <zad> devices even
 why?
[08:05] <ArrenLex> df will tell you what's mounted. "sudo fdisk -l" will list all your drives.
[08:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> zad, try 'ls /dev/sd*'
[08:06] <ferronrsmith> need help!!!!!!!
[08:06] <ArrenLex> Kamping, that just gives you all the available nodes.
[08:06] <ArrenLex> Ferron, what's your question?!
[08:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> ArrenLex, yeh.
[08:06] <zad> yeah it gave me loads
[08:06] <ferronrsmith> want to install dependecy and .deb
[08:06] <zad> how do i know if it sees my sata
[08:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> ferronrsmith, aks a question, dont just sit asking for help
[08:06] <Toma-> im getting a nasty error when trying to use my mp4 player. its mounted and worked before but now im getting this: "[17353998.040000]  usb 1-1: device not accepting address 9, error -110"
[08:06] <ArrenLex> Ferron, a .deb that's not available in the repositories?
[08:07] <Toma-> ive googled and no help found
[08:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> Toma-, unpluged and repluged?
[08:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> have you updated the kernel recently?
[08:07] <ArrenLex> dpkg -i <your deb file> && apt-get -f install
[08:07] <ArrenLex> (@Ferron)
[08:07] <ferronrsmith> how do i check wat dependecy i already have so that i dont have to download it again
[08:07] <Skarr> is the newest ubuntu Linux(kernal version 2.2.14 or 2.4)?
[08:07] <Momal> !api mismatch
[08:07] <Toma-> Kamping_Kaiser: all obvious options have been tried. even tried rmmod ehci
[08:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about api mismatch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> Skarr, 2.6
[08:07] <Momal> pfft
[08:07] <ArrenLex> Ferron, apt magically settles dependencies for you.
[08:07] <Toma-> Kamping_Kaiser: yep. usual ubuntu updates
[08:07] <Skarr> Dang.
[08:08] <zad> Kamping_Kaiser how do isee what sata i have
[08:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> Toma-, try the kernel you had before
[08:08] <HabaKKuk> hi
[08:08] <BlockNick> Jazzrocker Can you please refrain from private msg'ing me. I dont like the rudeness of your claims and what you said to me was sick man.
[08:08] <Micer> does any of you use Xchat as an IRC client?
[08:08] <ferronrsmith> the computer doesn't have the net
[08:08] <Skarr> You think a program for 2.4 would work for 2.6?
[08:08] <sethk> zad, sorry, I was away for a bit.  what happened?
[08:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> Micer, yes
[08:08] <Skarr> Realtek '97 only has 2.4
[08:08] <ArrenLex> BlockNick can you please stop complaining about private messages in the public area?
[08:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> Skarr, maybe
[08:08] <HabaKKuk> ive got following quiestion, what would be better for server OS ? Debian stable or slackware ?
[08:08] <Toma-> Kamping_Kaiser: and if that works?
[08:08] <sethk> Skarr, usually
[08:08] <Skarr> it also has one under the linux/unix section that says public
[08:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> HabaKKuk, wrong channel to ask
[08:09] <HabaKKuk> it will be ny first serv so im not sure
[08:09] <Madpilot> Micer, lots of us
[08:09] <vik> I want to but a 3d graphics card - which works better with linux: ATI or NVidia?
[08:09] <Psychobudgie> Micer,  yes
[08:09] <Flannel> HabaKKuk: probably debian stable, but this isn't exactly the place to ask that
[08:09] <BlockNick> Nvidia
[08:09] <HabaKKuk> Kamping_Kaiser: at leas you could give me an advice if you want ;)
[08:09] <ArrenLex> vik: NVidia.
[08:09] <sethk> HabaKKuk, I prefer slackware, but it's just a personal preference, debian is fine also
[08:09] <BlockNick> Debian hates ubuntu?
[08:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> Toma-, file a bug
[08:09] <Skarr> Nvidia > ati
[08:09] <Toma-> mmkay.
[08:09] <HabaKKuk> okay, thanks ppl
[08:09] <sethk> HabaKKuk, if you are already familiar with one or the other, than use that one
[08:09] <Momal> nvidia if you dont' get the problem i get >_<
[08:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> BlockNick, no
[08:09] <Skarr> !nvidia
[08:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:09] <ferronrsmith> ubuntu crash when using my nvidia, why???
[08:09] <Micer> ok great, can someone give me a hand then, I am not able to make it work with UBUNTU
[08:09] <HabaKKuk> well im using ubuntu now, so popably debau would be easyer
[08:10] <ArrenLex> Ferron: what error does it give you?
[08:10] <HabaKKuk> debian*
[08:10] <Flannel> HabaKKuk: you could always use ubuntu as well
[08:10] <vik> No-one has open source driver 3d cards?
[08:10] <ArrenLex> vik: Intel integrated does. Yay.
[08:10] <HabaKKuk> Flannel: know that but its better to lean other distros imho ;o)
[08:10] <ferronrsmith> fine lines running through the display or sometimes error logs
[08:10] <roaminggnome87> hello
[08:11] <ferronrsmith> stating that VGA crash error
[08:11] <Skarr> !vga
[08:11] <Flannel> HabaKKuk: shrug.  Its up to you, you'll need to get a lot more familiar with the configuration formats, for either of those
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vga - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <ArrenLex> Ferron, what driver are you trying to use?
[08:11] <iLLf8d> whew
[08:11] <BlockNick> !Smoke
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Smoke - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <ArrenLex> Would someone PLEASE kick BlockNick?!
[08:11] <ferronrsmith> NVIDIA MX400
[08:11] <Skarr> BlockNick: Thats getting annoying
[08:11] <ArrenLex> Ferron: driver.
[08:12] <BlockNick> I love you all~
[08:12] <Skarr> its not mutual.
[08:12] <ArrenLex> Ferron: run cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep "Driver"
[08:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> BlockNick, stop being silly or i'll ask some ops to stop you
[08:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> youve been asked nicely several times
[08:12] <BlockNick> ok
[08:12] <jazzrocker> BlockNick, and i'll ask them to do the same as well
[08:12] <ferronrsmith> thks
[08:12] <BlockNick> please dont feed the troll.
[08:12] <ArrenLex> Ferron: and paste the result here! xD
[08:12] <ArrenLex> I should have specified.
[08:13] <vik> Anyone have any success/comments regarding installing ubuntu on a usb hard disk?
[08:13] <BlockNick> I just sold my business for $7 million.
[08:13] <blanky> hey guys
[08:13] <blanky> I did sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:13] <Skarr> BlockNick: No one cares.
[08:13] <blanky> and then I keep trying sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart and various other things but it won't work
[08:13] <boitono> When ever I move a window I get some jagged effects that appear on the sides of the window, any suggestions as to where I might start looking for the source of this issue?
[08:13] <blanky> what must I do to commence the ssh daemon?
[08:14] <Momal> blocknick: go use that 7million dollars and buy your self a new brain one with intelligence
[08:14] <Skarr> Momal: I concur
[08:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> blanky, what do you mean 'wont start'
[08:14] <blanky> Kamping_Kaiser, sorry for insufficient information, I mean, it keeps saying command not found
[08:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> Momal, please, its a bit ot ;)
[08:14] <BlockNick> lanky, what do you mean 'wont start'
[08:14] <BlockNick> * gumpish has quit IRC
[08:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> blanky, sure ssh server installed?
[08:15] <Skarr> brb guys
[08:15] <blanky> when I tried to simply do sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start it said starting bsd ssh daemon ... [fail] 
[08:15] <Skarr> ill post back with results on the partition
[08:15] <blanky> Kamping_Kaiser, pretty sure, I did sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:15] <SurfnKid> guys this keeps happeningg
[08:15] <lmosher> Anyone here have experience setting up lm sensors? I'm having a hard time on my laptop
[08:15] <SurfnKid> ctrl alt > or < on the right side of my keyboard stopped working
[08:15] <blanky> Kamping_Kaiser, I just tried 'which sshd', and it said /usr/sbin/sshd
[08:16] <ArrenLex> SurfnKid: in a console, type xev. Then press those keys so you can see the command line. Tell us if they register as events.
[08:16] <blanky> Kamping_Kaiser, when I type sudo sshd, it returns with ""requires execution with an absolute path
[08:16] <blanky> "
[08:16] <SurfnKid> only the left side of ctrl alt > or < work, why since it has been working fine forever, no updates, no changes, nothing
[08:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> blanky, you running dapper?
[08:16] <blanky> Kamping_Kaiser, yep
[08:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> blanky, is your network up (is the box in question this box?)
[08:16] <blanky> no it's not this box, but yes it's online I went to google and all
[08:17] <iLLf8d> you're not really Kamping are you?
[08:17] <BlockNick> Fuck up blanky, i love you man =)
[08:17] <Flannel> !language
[08:17] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> BlockNick, language
[08:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> blanky, hm.
[08:17] <lmosher> Anyone here have experience setting up lm sensors? I'm having a hard time on my laptop...
[08:17] <SurfnKid> they keep changing ArrenLex
[08:17] <blanky> it's okay I can keep trying various things
[08:17] <roaminggnome87> There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon....any idea on how to fix this? I searched for threads on this but none of them helped.  Is it some kind of hostname problem?
[08:17] <iLLf8d> heh
[08:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> blanky, run 'restart' not 'start'
[08:18] <Kamping_Kaiser>  sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[08:18] <blanky> Kamping_Kaiser, yeah i tried that
[08:18] <blanky> i'll try again
[08:18] <SurfnKid> 37 and 64 on the left side of keyb, 109 and 113 on the right side of the keyb
[08:18] <ArrenLex> Are they working right now?
[08:19] <blanky> Kamping_Kaiser, x2mjokada@x2mjokada-desktop:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[08:19] <blanky> sudo: /etc/init.d/sshd: command not found
[08:19] <blanky> Kamping_Kaiser, but it's installed i just typed sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:19] <ArrenLex> blanky: /etc/init.d/ssh force-reload
[08:19] <blanky> it didn't install anything new
[08:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> blanky, no d
[08:19] <blanky> okay thanks ArrenLex
[08:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> not sshd, just ssh
[08:19] <blanky> okay Kamping_Kaiser
[08:19] <iLLf8d> heh
[08:20] <audimage> what is the authenticate command for irc?
[08:20] <audimage> forgot
[08:20] <iLLf8d> /msg nickserv identify <yourpassword>
[08:20] <lmosher> My fan won't turn off on my laptop - just installed Ubuntu. What gives?
[08:21] <iLLf8d> lmosher: its really cool
[08:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> is it running hot?
[08:21] <iLLf8d> heh
[08:21] <lmosher> iLLf8d, Kamping_Kaiser: no I check /proc/acpid/thermal_zone and it's like 40C
[08:21] <iLLf8d> well there you go then
[08:21] <lmosher> but I looked in /proc/acpi/fan and there are no fans listed
[08:21] <iLLf8d> whats it suppsoed to be?
[08:22] <lmosher> my other laptops fan turns on at 60
[08:22] <lmosher> laptop cpus run a little hotter.
[08:22] <iLLf8d> yeah till you spill your soda in them
[08:22] <method|> i have a wierd problem. i copied some folders from my linux filesystem (reiserfs) over to my fat32 harddrive. The folders can be seen while im on linux, but if on windows I can't see them. What's the deal?
[08:22] <iLLf8d> then they run a bit stickier
[08:22] <iLLf8d> heh
[08:22] <iLLf8d> heh_
[08:23] <roaminggnome87>  There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon....any idea on how to fix this? I searched for threads on this but none of them helped.  Is it some kind of hostname problem?  Please tell me what additional information you may need.  If nobody can respond, I'll resort to the mailing list so as not to flood the channel.
[08:23] <mainer> audimage_:  the identify is capital letters or upper-case w.e. you prefer
[08:23] <iLLf8d> mainer: makes no difference
[08:23] <mainer> cool,they must have changed it
[08:24] <iLLf8d> mainer: no been like that since I've been here
[08:24] <iLLf8d> just looks like you need caps
[08:24] <isolatedvirus_> i cant get amarok to play .mp3 or .m4a, and ive installed the gstream restricted codec already <_<
[08:24] <mainer> hmm,i always read uc in nickserv help,but they've changed server software a few times also
[08:24] <blanky> guys
[08:24] <drminime05> I'm looking for drivers for an ATI R100 Radeon 7200 card, need to know where to get them
[08:24] <blanky> sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade
[08:25] <blanky> upgrades the dist right?
[08:25] <blanky> with the new updates
[08:25] <iLLf8d> mainer: yeah the docs must be wrong
[08:25] <blanky> I don't mean from breezy to badger
[08:25] <ootput> don't include 'install'
[08:25] <devinelight> hey guys how do i update ubuntu
[08:25] <blanky> okay
[08:25] <ArrenLex> drminime: fglrx driver. You have it if you have restricted modules.
[08:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> drminime05, they are supported by the open source driver, not the binary driver
[08:25] <blanky> but it does do that right ootput ?
[08:25] <iLLf8d> mainer: iirc its been like that since they started using it been doing open proj/freenode since like mid 90s
[08:25] <mainer> huh,oh well
[08:26] <Yggdrasil> is there aw ay to do a netboot install of ubuntu ?
[08:26] <mainer> if it works it works:)
[08:26] <ArrenLex> drminime: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:26] <drminime05> which open source driver?
[08:26] <iLLf8d> yeah sucks when the docs makeya do stuff you don't have to
[08:26] <iLLf8d> I've run into that before
[08:26] <blanky> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade updates the dist right
[08:26] <ArrenLex> drminime: there is no open source driver supporting 3D.
[08:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> Yggdrasil, i think so
[08:26] <Yggdrasil> hmm
[08:26] <ArrenLex> If you can live with 2d only, use 'ati'.
[08:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> drminime05, the one built into X
[08:26] <isolatedvirus_> anyone have any idea as to why amarok wont play .mp3 or .m4a?
[08:27] <ArrenLex> isolated: does it give you some sort of error message?
[08:27] <ISOLATEDViRuS> yes
[08:27] <mainer> bLanky: i'd use aptitude,its better at dependenys for meta-packages,dist-upgrades
[08:27] <ISOLATEDViRuS> give me a sec, ill make it give me the error again.
[08:27] <devinelight> hey anyone can tel me how do i update ubuntu?
[08:28] <Audimage> sudo apt-get update
[08:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> update to get new packag elist, dist-upgrade to do the upgrade
[08:28] <ootput> devinelight: use the synaptic interface, cick reload, mark updates, and apply
[08:30] <devinelight> ootput, umm im kind of lost im new to linux where  is that synapatic interface
[08:30] <mustardongaim> is the nvidia 7600 GT supported by the nvidia-glx drivers?
[08:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes, probably
[08:30] <ISOLATEDViRuS> Error Loading Media : There is no available decoder
[08:30] <mustardongaim> I'm just installing nvidia-glx, so I was curious :)
[08:31] <JoseStefan> Does the flashplugin-nonfree from the 'dapper' repo no longer work?
[08:31] <drminime05> ArrenLex: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:31] <drminime05> verify that's right?
[08:31] <mustardongaim> devinelight: its an application for installing softward from the repositories
[08:31] <drminime05> "couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules"
[08:32] <ArrenLex> Did you copy it exactly?
[08:32] <drminime05> yeah
[08:32] <drminime05> substituting my user name
[08:32] <ArrenLex> Don't substitute anything!
[08:32] <ArrenLex> Substitute does not equal copy exactly.
[08:32] <ArrenLex> COPY EXACTLY.
[08:32] <crazy_penguin> Good day all!
[08:32] <drminime05> k
[08:32] <mustardongaim> drminime05: is it 'module' or 'modules'?
[08:33] <ISOLATEDViRuS> yes.
[08:33] <drminime05> go it
[08:33] <drminime05> *got it
[08:33] <ISOLATEDViRuS> i copied it exactly.
[08:33] <ISOLATEDViRuS> want me to give the path that it lists?
[08:34] <ISOLATEDViRuS> file:///home/isolatedvirus/Documents/Music/6-02 Eternity.m4a
[08:34] <ISOLATEDViRuS> there.
[08:34] <ISOLATEDViRuS> which would only be my file -_-
[08:34] <devinelight> mustardongaim, can u give me a link where i can get it
[08:35] <ISOLATEDViRuS> ArrenLex , would you like to take this to PM?
[08:35] <mustardongaim> devinelight: it comes by default with Ubuntu...what are you using?
[08:35] <devinelight> im using ubuntu mustardongaim
[08:35] <ArrenLex> Isolated, I wasn't talking to you! xD
[08:35] <devinelight> but i cant find where it is
[08:35] <ArrenLex> I was talking to drminime.
[08:35] <ISOLATEDViRuS> im slowly going insane over here... sitting in this silence <_<
[08:35] <paetsr> hello all
[08:36] <mustardongaim> devinelight: try looking in your System>Administration menu...for Synaptic Package Manager
[08:36] <drminime05> Arren, it installed successfully, but the x server still won't start
[08:36] <ArrenLex> Isolated: Try googling "amarok mp3".
[08:36] <ootput> devinelight: it's the the system menu
[08:36] <paetsr> can somebody please help me with a problem im having with libdvdcss2??
[08:36] <paetsr> can somebody please help me with a problem im having with libdvdcss2??
[08:36] <ArrenLex> drminime: does it give you an error message?
[08:36] <ootput> devinelight: sorry, i'm not using gnome atm, so i cna't tell where it is exactly
[08:36] <ISOLATEDViRuS> !amarok
[08:36] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[08:36] <devinelight> hmm
[08:36] <ISOLATEDViRuS> gah
[08:36] <ISOLATEDViRuS> fags.
[08:36] <ISOLATEDViRuS> ...i JUST had a question, but i forgot it ;_;
[08:37] <drminime05> (II) Primary Device is: PCI 02:00:0
[08:37] <drminime05> (EE) No devices detected.
[08:37] <drminime05> Fatal server error:
[08:37] <drminime05> no screens found
[08:37] <devinelight> ok i found it
[08:37] <drminime05> that's in the log file
[08:37] <corstar> can synfig be compilled on dapper? or do we have to wait for edgy?
[08:37] <paetsr> im trying to install libdvdcss2 on a amd64 ubuntu
[08:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> paetsr, get the libdvdcssread 3 package, its in there iirc
[08:37] <drminime05> error message "fatal server error: no screens found"
[08:38] <ArrenLex> Isolated: https://winanga.wordpress.com/2006/03/18/amarok-mp3-support-in-ubuntu-dapper/
[08:38] <paetsr> i did not have a problem o nthe i386.. on my laptop
[08:38] <ArrenLex> It's like the fifth google result for "amarok mp3".
[08:38] <ArrenLex> Couldn't you have at least done that yourself?
[08:38] <ArrenLex> drminime: what driver are you using?
[08:38] <JoseStefan> Does the flashplugin-nonfree from the 'dapper' repo no longer work?
[08:38] <ISOLATEDViRuS> i wasnt bitching about the google thing dude.
[08:39] <drminime05> fglrx
[08:39] <iLLf8d> hey all do swap partitions need to be zeroed like swap files? or does fdisk take care of that forya?
[08:39] <iLLf8d> and if so how can you tell it to use a count of available space?
[08:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> iLLf8d, they need to be formated after creation
[08:39] <devinelight> Oompa, i found it now what do i have to do
[08:39] <iLLf8d> mkswap /dev/mypart (but what about the dd stuffs?)
[08:39] <drminime05> ATI R100 Radeon 7200, just for clarification
[08:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> iLLf8d, *shrug*
[08:40] <iLLf8d> the manpage says it needs to be zeroed I was wondering if fdisk did that
[08:40] <ArrenLex> drminime, try executing 'sudo modprove -v fglrx' before 'startx'.
[08:40] <iLLf8d> will check gentoo docs
[08:40] <iLLf8d> =P
[08:40] <ArrenLex> Sorry, sudo modprobe -v fglrx
[08:40] <ArrenLex> (spelling error)
[08:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol iLLf8d :P
[08:40] <compotatoj> Is there a way to detect what kind of usb mouse you have or a program to map your buttons for you?
[08:41] <drminime05> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile/fglrx.ko): No such device
[08:41] <painkiler> hey guys
[08:41] <painkiler> how do I get the Compiz Settings Manager working?
[08:41] <richard109> problem installing Java for amd64 version
[08:41] <ArrenLex> drminime: do 'lspci | grep Display' and paste it here.
[08:41] <drminime05> nothing
[08:42] <drminime05> lspci
[08:42] <drminime05> 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and Memory Controller Hub (rev 02)
[08:42] <drminime05> 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82815 815 Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 02)
[08:42] <drminime05> 0000:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801AA PCI Bridge (rev 02)
[08:42] <drminime05> 0000:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801AA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 02)
[08:42] <drminime05> 0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801AA IDE (rev 02)
[08:42] <ISOLATEDViRuS> ok..
[08:42] <drminime05> 0000:00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801AA USB (rev 02)
[08:42] <drminime05> 0000:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801AA SMBus (rev 02)
[08:42] <DJAdmiral> !paste
[08:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:42] <drminime05> 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801AA AC'97 Audio (rev 02)
[08:42] <ISOLATEDViRuS> something is terribly wrong here...
[08:42] <drminime05> 0000:01:04.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado]  (rev 78)
[08:42] <ArrenLex> drminime, pastebin!
[08:42] <drminime05> 0000:02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R100 QD [Radeon 7200] 
[08:42] <ArrenLex> It's in the chat title.
[08:42] <ArrenLex> !paste
[08:42] <DJAdmiral> stop flooding!
[08:42] <ISOLATEDViRuS> i already installed the gstream codecs <_<
[08:42] <drminime05> sorry guys
[08:42] <ArrenLex> Oh, nevermind.
[08:42] <ArrenLex> Yeah...
[08:43] <ISOLATEDViRuS> arrenlex, ive installed those gstream codecs a while ago, and amarok still wont play <_<
[08:43] <ArrenLex> drminime, I'm sorry to go all microsoft on you, but try rebooting. Sometimes magical things happen.
[08:44] <drminime05> haha
[08:44] <drminime05> will do
[08:46] <Luke> is there any way to easily remove all packages but the ones installed by a default server install?
[08:46] <DJAdmiral> Guys, I'm having an error when I'm trying to execute a JAR file. Output ----> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24461
[08:47] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guys need help mounting windows on edubuntu
[08:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, try #edubuntu :)
[08:47] <RedGhost> Is there a package in the repos to allow me to view .WMV files, the windows codec pack?
[08:47] <RedGhost> I remember it from a few years ago
[08:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> w32codecs
[08:48] <DJAdmiral> !code
[08:48] <ubotu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs; KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello; GNOME: gvim, gedit, eclipse, pida
[08:48] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> RedGhost: use videolan player
[08:48] <DJAdmiral> !codec
[08:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> not sure if its in repos, its in plf/seveas iirc
[08:48] <drminime05> still no good Arren
[08:48] <RedGhost> Yeah I have vlc. Thanks guys.
[08:48] <ArrenLex> @Punjabi: try java -jar <file>
[08:48] <drminime05> lspci brings this: 0000:02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R100 QD [Radeon 7200] 
[08:48] <ArrenLex> drminime: same error?
[08:48] <Squee> Has anyone here attempted Edgy + Xgl + AMD64?
[08:48] <Asc> Pun: does nix VLC do wmv3 now?
[08:49] <drminime05> modprobe bings FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile/fglrx.ko): No such device
[08:49] <DJAdmiral> Arrenlex: I'm trying to execute the jar file :P
[08:49] <Luke> is there any way to easily remove all packages but the ones installed by a default server install?
[08:49] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guys i need help regarding /etc/fstab
[08:49] <RedGhost> ugh w32codecs isnt in the repos any more
[08:49] <DJAdmiral> ArrenLex: Not PunjabiFLOYDIAN lol.
[08:49] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> DJAdmiral: LOL. WHy
[08:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> tell RedGhost about w32codecs
[08:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> er
[08:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell RedGhost about w32codecs
[08:50] <Asc> Pun: you're trying to mount your windows partition?
[08:50] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Asc: i used the disk mounter script
[08:50] <DJAdmiral> ArrenLex: If you'd care to take a look at this please: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24461
[08:50] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> still m unable to access the partition
[08:50] <Squee> redghost ubuntuguide.com use their repositories, and they have a tutorial for codecs there too
[08:50] <kromel> Help!  Upgraded to i686 kernel from i386, now some of my apps won't open.
[08:50] <Asc> Does it just not mount, or does it give you permissions trouble?
[08:51] <Luke> kromel: what apps?
[08:51] <ArrenLex> drminime: look at this page http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33706447
[08:51] <Luke> !tell Luke about w32codecs
[08:51] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> It is mounted normally. But whenver i try to access it, it just keeps on loading
[08:51] <cherubiel> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: are you able to access the mounts as root?
[08:51] <ArrenLex> It seems to suggest the radeon driver has 3D support.
[08:51] <Squee> Is anyone in here running XGL + Edgy?
[08:51] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> cherubiel: i m able to access all otehr partitions except one
[08:51] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> /dev/hdb5
[08:51] <alex222> how do i set a wallapaper for each desktop?
[08:51] <cherubiel> and the fstab entry for tat?
[08:51] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> the /etc/fstab shows it is auto mounted
[08:51] <Asc> Pun, weird.  Is it NTFS or FAT?
[08:51] <DJAdmiral> Squee: You could go to #ubuntu+1 for that
[08:52] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> NTFS
[08:52] <Squee> alright
[08:52] <Rizla420> hey is there just a general chat section on freenode where people could just shoot the shit for the fuck of it?
[08:52] <DJAdmiral> ArrenLex: Could you please take a look at this? ArrenLex: Could you please
[08:52] <DJAdmiral> !language
[08:52] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:52] <Rizla420> sorry. bot
[08:52] <Asc> Anybody know if the default kernel includes NTFS read right now?
[08:53] <Skarr> I need some help installing wine. I downloaded the packages.tz off of http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-all/ and extracted it but ti didnt work
[08:53] <Squee> asc: I'm quite sure it's read only
[08:53] <ArrenLex> DJadmiral: I'm sorry, I'm not familiar enough with java to understand what you're trying to do and how it differs from java -jar <file.jar>
[08:53] <ArrenLex> Please explain?
[08:53] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> yeah. i used the disk mounter script. it should have laoded the thing.
[08:53] <compotatoj> I am on edgy and there are two of all my partion "drives" on my desktop. (Like sda1, sda1 (2), sda2, sda2 (2))
[08:53] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> all the other partitions are mounted and accessible. except one.
[08:53] <Asc> Eh, I'm pretty sure it does anyway or that volume wouldn't have worked.
[08:53] <alex222> how do i set a wallapaper for each desktop?
[08:53] <Asc> Pun: Are any of the other partitions NTFS?
[08:53] <Rizla420> i'll take that as a 'no'
[08:54] <Rizla420> any east coaster still up tonight?
[08:54] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Pun: Yup vfat
[08:54] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Asc: yup vfat
[08:54] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> 2 vfats, one ntfs
[08:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> Rizla420, depends on which continent :)
[08:54] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> vfats are accessible.
[08:55] <Rizla420> touche' punujabi
[08:55] <Ashex> is there any way to have all output from kmail saved to a file
[08:55] <Rizla420> i was being ignorant assuming everyone was US based
[08:55] <Ashex> like if i launch it from cli, for it to log all errors
[08:55] <Ashex> I'm attempting to file a bug report
[08:55] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> hell. why do we have to mount everything.
[08:55] <Ashex> but the problem is that the bug occurs while shutting down
[08:55] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> why cant it be like windows. i mean.... ????
[08:55] <Asc> (this actually isn't why I don't use NTFS any more, but it's part of the reason I won't in the future)
[08:55] <ArrenLex> Ashex: kmail 2> /tmp/afile
[08:56] <Asc> Pun: I assume it's because you want to access it ;p
[08:56] <ArrenLex> Punjabi: because Windows is already like windows. It would be redundant.
[08:56] <Rizla420> cuz punjuabi it goes against the linux ethos.  Make it as safe and difficult as possible
[08:56] <Rizla420> :)
[08:56] <Rizla420> im a linux noob
[08:56] <Asc> Troubleshooting is fun, I tell you!
[08:56] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Rizla420: Yeah. that is right. but i just migrated from Windows. And i swear I like linux
[08:56] <Luke> is there any way to easily remove all packages but the ones installed by a default server install?
[08:56] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> it reallly really rocks
[08:56] <Rizla420> i went through a lot of growing pain just gettin ubuntu setup
[08:56] <Rizla420> i do to
[08:57] <Skarr> I need some help installing wine. I downloaded the packages.tz off of http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-all/ and extracted it but ti didnt work
[08:57] <Ashex> thanks ArrenLex
[08:57] <Rizla420> i only boot to win for fruity loops.  I just mess around on it to make some stuff
[08:57] <Ashex> ArrenLex, do you know if this will inclode gdb report?
[08:57] <DJAdmiral> !wine
[08:57] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:57] <Ashex> s/inclode/include
[08:57] <ArrenLex> Packages.tz just describes the packages, scarr. You need the actual package itself.
[08:57] <DJAdmiral> try using that to install wine.
[08:57] <Skarr> Iknow, DJadmiral
[08:57] <Asc> Pun: I suppose there's no chance you can copy everything off the partition, format it as FAT, and replace the files? :p
[08:57] <Skarr> ButI dont have internet!
[08:57] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> hey. how to install wine on ubuntu?
[08:57] <DJAdmiral> or using the official wine repos
[08:57] <Skarr> On linux yet.
[08:57] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i mean
[08:57] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> apt-get?
[08:58] <Skarr> It's a catch 22 because I need internet to install wine, but i need to install wine to get internet
[08:58] <Rizla420> to be on topic, is it worth upgrading to the new kernel? I dont want to mess my current setup up.  My update manager syas i've got a bunch of new stuff i can update
[08:58] <DJAdmiral> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: depends if you have the wine repoes installed.
[08:58] <Asc> In my experience, rebooting in windows is less painful than using wine, in most situations
[08:58] <Rizla420> nvidia-glx.... i dont want to screw my shit up
[08:58] <Rizla420> *sorry, stuff up
[08:58] <Skarr> Asc, I need to use it to be able to use my network adapter software on ubuntu ;)
[08:59] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> hey what is Glx?
[08:59] <Asc> Skarr: 0_o
[08:59] <Skarr> !glx
[08:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:59] <Asc> good luck with that
[08:59] <Skarr> well I'm screwed.
[09:00] <Skarr> Is there any way at all to get it?
[09:00] <ArrenLex> Ashex, that command will only log what kmail itself prints to stderror. It has nothing to do with debuggers.
[09:00] <Skarr> Maybe building it from source?
[09:00] <Asc> Skarr: You might try looking for a debian package on the internet
[09:00] <ArrenLex> Skarr: get what, nvidia-glx?
[09:01] <zoidberg_> guys do you know if WINE works well with programs that use MIDI sounds...like BAND in A BOX?
[09:01] <Skarr> ArrenLex: No, wine
[09:01] <ArrenLex> Skarr, why can't you just apt-get install wine?
[09:01] <Skarr> ArrenLex: but i dont have internet so i cant use deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[09:01] <Skarr> ArrenLex: what?
[09:01] <kromel> Hello, I just updated kernel from i386 to 686, there a way to update my applications to 686?
[09:01] <ArrenLex> Skarr: wine is in the ubuntu repositories.
[09:01] <alex222> how do i set a wallapaper for each indubidual workspace/desktop
[09:02] <Skarr> Is it alreayd installed on ubuntu?
[09:02] <ArrenLex> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/otherosfs/wine
[09:02] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i just used this command:
[09:02] <JoseStefan> kromel, there is no need
[09:02] <Skarr> Is that what you mean?
[09:02] <ArrenLex> Skarr, no, but you can install it easily.
[09:02] <Skarr> How?
[09:02] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> sudo apt-get install wine
[09:02] <Asc> kromel: recompile maybe?
[09:02] <Skarr> God I feel like an idiot
[09:02] <ArrenLex> Skarr: does the machine you're trying to install wine on have internet?
[09:02] <zoidberg_> guys do you know if WINE works well with programs that use MIDI sounds...like BAND in A BOX?
[09:02] <Skarr> ArrenLex: negative
[09:03] <richard109> can anyone suggest a traffic shaper for ubuntu?
[09:03] <ArrenLex> Skarr: then download the wine package from the site I just gave you and save it to your machine. Then, run the command 'dpkg -i <thefile>' on that machine.
[09:03] <kromel> JoseStefan: My movie player and FireFox wouldn't work afterwards till I reinstalled them.  Was just wondering if there was a command for it to look at all my old 386 apps and have them converted to 686.  Me are a noob.
[09:03] <Skarr> zoidberg_: Maybe, youd be better off either just using a linux MIDI program or switch to windows to use it
[09:03] <DJAdmiral> ArrenLex: I found out what the real issue was! I was missing a class file from gij therefore it refused to execute! I'm apt-getting gcj now! :D
[09:03] <Skarr> ArrenLex: always there to help me thanks
[09:03] <zoidberg_> Skarr: i want to use BAND IN A BOX in linux
[09:03] <richard109> traffic shaper anyone?
[09:04] <DJAdmiral> traffic....shaper?
[09:04] <alex222> did anyone get super karamba working under gnome + xgl?
[09:04] <ArrenLex> richard: behold the magic of "apt-cache search traffic shaper"
[09:04] <Skarr> zoidberg_: Try it out and see
[09:04] <Asc> Skarr: some recent-ish-looking dpkgs are here: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/index.html
[09:04] <JoseStefan> kromel, you might be missing the restricted-modules, try installing pkg: linux-686
[09:04] <zoidberg> Skarr: i did when i hit play i hear nothing
[09:04] <Skarr> Asc: Thanks but arren fixed it :)
[09:04] <richard109> limit traffic of specific applications
[09:05] <DJAdmiral> zoidberg: Try installing more codecs?
[09:05] <richard109> internet traffic
[09:05] <Skarr> zoidberg: maybe you should get cefenag or whatever
[09:05] <zoidberg> DJAdmiral: codecs for what?
[09:05] <kromel> JoseStefan: I did that, along with the headers. hmmm
[09:05] <ArrenLex> *cookie.eat*
[09:05] <Skarr> Is there any way to switch afile from windows to linux withotu a disk / thumb drive? (I have each partitioned on its own space, obviously)
[09:06] <ArrenLex> Skarr: have you mounted your windows partition?
[09:06] <Skarr> ArrenLex: I... think?
[09:06] <Skarr> I'm able to use it, if thats what you mean
[09:06] <ArrenLex> Skarr: so what's the problem with just copying it?
[09:06] <DJAdmiral> are you able to access your windoze partition directly from ubuntu?
[09:07] <Skarr> ArrenLex: I'm lazy, xD nevermind.
[09:07] <Skarr> DJ: yeah, but not the other way around.
[09:07] <iLLf8d> lol
[09:07] <DJAdmiral> Skarr: rofl
[09:07] <Skarr> wait
[09:07] <Skarr> Oh
[09:07] <Skarr> LMAO
[09:07] <iLLf8d> cp command he means
[09:07] <Skarr> ""yeah, but not the other way around."
[09:07] <DJAdmiral> Skarr: You can't do it the other way around.
[09:07] <DJAdmiral> unless
[09:07] <Ashex> how might i automatically log errors from gdb?
[09:07] <DJAdmiral> You use an extended 3 filesystem viewer
[09:08] <ArrenLex> Skarr: to copy your file, I assume.
[09:08] <iLLf8d> heh
[09:08] <Skarr> Having ubuntu makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside...
[09:09] <iLLf8d> Skarr: blood does that for me
[09:09] <Skarr> But they need a mascot, do they have one?
[09:09] <JoseStefan> Skarr you could print the file, make a photo copy, and then scan it :P
[09:09] <Skarr> I mean 3 people isn't a mascot. It's a cheesy stock photograph.
[09:09] <iLLf8d> Skarr: the easiest way to do it tho seriously is to move the file to floppy/cd
[09:10] <Skarr> JoseStefan: Speaking of that, is there software that you can scan something and use it to make the text on the pic into text that you can C/P
[09:10] <DJAdmiral> Jk:P
[09:10] <JoseStefan> Skarr, dont know :/
[09:10] <Skarr> That would be useful.
[09:10] <jojoman02> is there a way i can get a list of packages i installed recently? Something i installed won't let me boot my system...
[09:10] <Skarr> I suppose something like that could be done, if tablet PC's can recognize MY handwriting
[09:11] <ArrenLex> Skarr: yes. But not for Linux. Or, that is, yes for Linux, but it does. not. work.
[09:11] <Skarr> (my mum works with computers and she has 3 tablet laptops)
[09:11] <ArrenLex> Skarr: but there are good free ones for Windows that will run great under WINE.
[09:11] <ArrenLex> Skarr: google "free OCR software windows" or something.
[09:11] <Skarr> Now I'm trying to convince her to get her office to use ubuntu
[09:11] <Skarr> OCR?
[09:11] <ArrenLex> Or if you're a masochist you can try installing the Linux OCR software. You have been warned, it does not work.
[09:12] <Skarr> Something something recognition
[09:12] <ArrenLex> Optical Character Recognition. Reading pictures into text.
[09:12] <Skarr> Ah
[09:12] <Skarr> Arrenlex: Indeed I am, paddle please. I'll try it anyway :P
[09:12] <ArrenLex> Skarr: you were warned. ocrad is one. gocr is another.
[09:12] <ArrenLex> They're both in the ubutu repos.
[09:13] <ArrenLex> If you want more information, you can always summon the magic of "apt-cache search ocr" or google "linux ocr"
[09:13] <Skarr> ArrenLex: why does everything that has to do with linux have a weird name? (no offense)
[09:13] <Asc> Skarr: if it's as good as the speach recognition software, it'll take five hours to get working, and understand a word one time out of five.
[09:13] <ArrenLex> Skarr; it makes us cool.
[09:13] <ArrenLex> Scarr: OCR actually has nothing to do with Linux. OCR is the official name for reading pictures into text.
[09:13] <Skarr> Asc: Ha, remember that PS2 game where you controlled the girl with your voice?
[09:14] <JoseStefan> that means more time was spent coding and less thinking for a name
[09:14] <Skarr> Asc: Strip nude! I will not do that! Get naked! I will not do that! Shoot zombie! I'm sorry, I don't understand.
[09:14] <Asc> Skarr: I actually have never heard of it, but it sounds amusing
[09:14] <ArrenLex> Skarr, if that worked, a better use would be Ubuntu: fix yourself! Okay, everything now works!
[09:15] <Skarr> Asc: It's kind of funny, you can tell her "Dance" and she dances, she only recognizes dumb commands, not practical ones
[09:15] <jojoman02> is there a way to check a history of packages downloaded? (something i installed hangs my computer)
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> jojoman02: downloaded, or installed?
[09:16] <Skarr> "Pick up note" *I do not have an animal* is one of the things she said, of course this was on the first copy of that game I got, a crappy japanese import
[09:16] <Asc> Skarr: One wonders if something could be arranged with some text-to-speech software set on repeat
[09:16] <Skarr> Heh
[09:16] <zoidberg> hey guys how do you check what processes are running on your soundcard?
[09:17] <Skarr> OMFG I JUST MADE A DISCOVERY
[09:17] <nathanj> does anyone know where i can get a howto on installing ubuntu with fluxbox?
[09:17] <Skarr> woops
[09:17] <Skarr> !language
[09:17] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:17] <Skarr> There are no anagrams for ubuntu!
[09:17] <zoidberg> guys....how do you see the SOUND APPLICATIONS AND PROCESSES running ?
[09:17] <MugginsM> not in english
[09:17] <Flannel> nathanj: get the alternate ISO, at the boot prompt, type "server", it'll install a GUI-less box, then apt-get install fluxbox
[09:18] <Skarr> So, be back soon guys... Hopefully with a working ubuntu internet  connection ;)
[09:18] <Kernel_Panick> hola hola
[09:18] <Flannel> nathanj: that's if you want just fluxbox, not gnome, xfce, etc.  oh, you'll need to enable universe too.
[09:18] <Kernel_Panick> buenas noches
[09:18] <JoseStefan> !es > Kernel_Panick
[09:18] <jack_> hi, who know where can find the latest(1.0.13) alsa-source?
[09:18] <Skarr> Oh, can you tell me the command one more time arrenlex?
[09:18] <BongSong> When is the next ubuntu being released?
[09:18] <Flannel> BongSong: end of october
[09:18] <Skarr> !alsa
[09:18] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:19] <ArrenLex> Skarr: what command is this?
[09:19] <nathanj> Flannel: reckon gnome with run on 333mhz with 192mb ram lappy?
[09:19] <jojoman02> BongSong: should be nest month
[09:19] <Skarr> ArrenLex: for the package, like dpckg -1 <filename> or something
[09:19] <Flannel> nathanj: it'll run, might/probably wont be happy.  try xubuntu
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> nathanj: run yeah. Usable? No.
[09:19] <ArrenLex> Skarr: dpkg -i <filename>
[09:19] <ArrenLex> Good luck with that. I'm leaving, it's late.
[09:19] <Skarr> Flannel:* SO I SPENT 3 DAYS SETTING THIS UP AND NOW I HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN IN A MONTH?*
[09:19] <Flannel> nathanj: or, use fluxbox ;)
[09:19] <Flannel> !caps
[09:19] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:19] <ArrenLex> Hope I helped someone at least a bit!
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> Skarr: fix your caps lock key first.
[09:20] <Asc> nathanj: I vote that it will work just fine
[09:20] <Flannel> Skarr: is anyone forcing you to upgrade?
[09:20] <iLLf8d> ArrenLex: just being here your support has helped us all out alot
[09:20] <nathanj> xubuntu doesnt look maintained? ;p
[09:20] <lastnode> is there a meta package for all SDL libs?
[09:20] <Skarr> Flannel: No, but is there like an automatic update thingy?
[09:20] <Flannel> Skarr: like all ubuntu versions
[09:20] <Skarr> Pheeew
[09:20] <Skarr> k leavin now
[09:21] <Skarr> be back soon.
[09:21] <BongSong> When is Edgy going to be released?
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> BongSong: when its done.
[09:21] <BongSong> ok
[09:21] <nathanj> is xubuntu mainted still?
[09:21] <nathanj> maintained?
[09:21] <Flannel> nathanj: of course.
[09:22] <Flannel> BongSong: again, the end of October
[09:22] <nathanj> Flannel: is there edgy rls?
[09:22] <Flannel> nathanj: what?
[09:22] <nathanj> Flannel: is there a xubuntu edgy rls?
[09:23] <nathanj> /s/rls/release
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> it will be released in all flavors when its done. So yes.
[09:23] <Flannel> nathanj: er... there will be.  I'm sure there is an alpha currently.  #ubuntu+1 can help you more
[09:24] <richard109> for the 64bit version of Azureus is it best to get the 64 bit version of java ?
[09:25] <BongSong> Fedora rocks.
[09:25] <BongSong> Ubuntu rocks
[09:29] <TheH> Hello, can some one help me with getting to work gedit on xorg? please
[09:29] <sontek> I'm trying to install an app that needs termcap library, What package should I install?
[09:30] <TheH> Hello, can some one help me with getting to work gedit on xorg? please
[09:30] <MugginsM> stupid crap web developers
[09:32] <okto> TheH: you mean you want to edit your xorg config?
[09:32] <okto> TheH: then "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[09:33] <TheH> yes I want to try to get my hdtv to wkir on 720p widescreen and I need to edit xorg but I get no permission even if I do ksudo
[09:33] <MugginsM> oh well done adobe, send me the wrong version of flash
[09:34] <TheH>  this is what I get: user@user-desktop:~$ sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:34] <TheH> sudo: gedit: command not found
[09:34] <DJAdmiral> Flash was better off under Macromedia in my opinion
[09:35] <MugginsM> flash has never been good
[09:35] <DJAdmiral> but it was still better off
[09:35] <DJAdmiral> btw we're getting off topic now
[09:36] <TheH> I can't run that command
[09:36] <TheH> ?
[09:37] <Asc> TheH: uh, do you have gedit installed?  It works fine for me
[09:37] <DJAdmiral> speaking of which, is there an open source ubuntu or linux alternative to flash? not flash player, but flash which is used to create flash movies.
[09:37] <TheH> I need to install it? no then I dont
[09:37] <DJAdmiral> TheH: sudo apt-get install gedit
[09:37] <TheH> thx let me try it
[09:37] <iLLf8d> no don't do it
[09:37] <iLLf8d> heh
[09:38] <MugginsM> dj: there isn't even a flash *player* for half the linux platforms
[09:38] <TheH> is this command like yum on fedora?
[09:38] <iLLf8d> use nano or install vim =)
[09:38] <TheH> downloads anything  you type?
[09:39] <iLLf8d> doesn't work for pr0n
[09:39] <DarkMageZ> TheH, yup, cept faster
[09:39] <Asc> TheH: only if you know what you want to download, and spell it correctly
[09:39] <DJAdmiral> MugginsM: But I've heard a lot about vector based animation programs for ubuntu. Sounds familiar, doesn't it?
[09:39] <marcin_ant> hi guys
[09:39] <TheH> bice sounds good
[09:39] <marcin_ant> I got weird problem with gnome-terminal in dapper
[09:39] <TheH> thx
[09:39] <marcin_ant> I cannot run any application with gui from terminal
[09:39] <MugginsM> dj: inkscape I think, does nice vector stuff
[09:40] <MugginsM> with SVG, which actually *is* an open standard
[09:40] <marcin_ant> because I get info that I get info that 'cannot connect to X server'
[09:40] <DJAdmiral> marcin_ant: try gksudo to run them?
[09:40] <DJAdmiral> ah
[09:40] <MugginsM> but being an open standard, isn't supported by IE
[09:40] <iLLf8d> marcin_ant: xhost +localhost and or logout and nuke the files in /tmp (just a guess)
[09:40] <sontek> Hey, do any of you guys know a way to get termcap installed or should I do it from source?
[09:40] <TheH> well what I'm trying to do with all this is  get my hdtv with my 6600gt nvidia to work , any of you have done something like thta? I could not get this to work on fedora, I'm hoping I can on ubuntu
[09:40] <marcin_ant> DJAdmiral: yes I can Alt-F2 and gksu but I relly would like to run from console
[09:41] <Asc> Speaking of which.  Is there a way to run a program from a terminal and *not* have it take over said terminal? (like wine, mplayer, etc.)
[09:41] <marcin_ant> s/relly/really
[09:41] <MugginsM> mplayer &
[09:41] <MugginsM> put an & after it, it'll go into the "background"
[09:41] <MugginsM> it'll close if you close the terminal, but you can otherwise use the terminal
[09:42] <Asc> Muggins: it doesn't make a video window
[09:42] <marcin_ant> iLLf8d: xhost +localhost gives "unable to open display "" "
[09:42] <iLLf8d> yeah its probably some /tmp file garbage then unless ubuntu did something to it that made it different
[09:43] <FluxD> hello I have a small question I am adding a custom location in software properties is there anything wrong with this format? deb http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu dapper
[09:43] <iLLf8d> marcin_ant: if you reboot it'll go away of its own accord when /tmp gets nuked
[09:43] <Asc> Hm, seems to work for wine though
[09:43] <MugginsM> oh mplayer is probably wanting to grab your keypresses
[09:44] <MugginsM> so it won't like not having the terminal there
[09:44] <Asc> Ought to work for what I actually need it for, mplayer isn't very important.  Thanks.
[09:45] <MugginsM> just watch you don't close the terminal :)
[09:45] <iLLf8d> you could go to console and kill x and nuke /tmp and the dotfiles in /tmp yourself
[09:45] <iLLf8d> and restart x
[09:45] <iLLf8d> and it should play nice then
[09:45] <roconnor> according to my /proc/cpuinfo: cpu MHz         : 1395.658, but according to /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq I'm at 600000
[09:46] <roconnor> which one is right?
[09:47] <MugginsM> not sure which they're reading, but there are various way of measuring the speed. the "internal" clock of a CPU is usually a lot higher than the "external" clock that connects to things like memory
[09:47] <BongSong> fuck microsoft
[09:47] <MugginsM> it's possible it's running at 1400MHz internally and 600MHz externally
[09:47] <MugginsM> bong: I'd rather not, they're unclean
[09:47] <ompaul> !language
[09:47] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:48] <TheH> after I did gedit I'm getting this: ** (gedit:5211): CRITICAL **: gedit_plugin_update_ui: assertion `GEDIT_IS_PLUGIN (plugin)' failed
[09:48] <iLLf8d> ok I'm gonna crash night all
[09:48] <Asc> Bong: Just because Microsoft is evil doesn't mean it's bad
[09:48] <TheH> I can open and save the file with sude but why the error
[09:48] <Asc> wait....
[09:48] <iLLf8d> cya Kamping_Kaiser and sethk thanks for the help and chatter
[09:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> later iLLf8d
[09:49] <roconnor> MugginsM: When I was running Breezy last week, my cpuinfo would throttle down to around 600 MHz, but now it just stays at the top reading
[09:52] <ompaul> roconnor, have you done the updates?
[09:52] <Seagoon> hi, can someone please tell me how to change hdd labels in Kubuntu?
[09:52] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guys. i need help. the x server keeps on restarting.
[09:52] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i m sick of it
[09:52] <ompaul> roconnor, I don't know if that was sorted inthe updates or not
[09:52] <ompaul> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, have you enabled xgl or something like that?
[09:53] <nox-Hand> Hey
[09:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[09:53] <nox-Hand> How do I get the intel915gm graphics in a lappy to run X on the liveCD?
[09:53] <ompaul> nox-Hand, most likely press F6 as it starts to boot and add "vga=771" at the start
[09:53] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> cant anyone help me. the x server keeps on restarting itself.
[09:53] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i lose imporatant data everytime this hapens
[09:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, answer the qusetion you go asked
[09:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> *got
[09:54] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> which question?
[09:54] <ompaul> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, have you enabled xgl or something like that?
[09:54] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> no ompaul. no nothng like that.
[09:54] <nox-Hand> ompaul: I'll try :)
[09:54] <ompaul> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, what kind of video card have you got?
[09:55] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> nvidia ge force mx 400
[09:55] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> the drivers have been loaded.
[09:55] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> and
[09:55] <richiefrich> whats the options on the gnome panel to get the  virtual screens back .. ?
[09:55] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> the problem was before also. the problem was with a fresh install of ubuntu
[09:55] <richiefrich> right click and select .. ?
[09:55] <richiefrich> darn i cant rememebr
[09:56] <sandy16> hi there
[09:56] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> anyone please? is this with dapper drake or my motherboard?
[09:56] <ompaul> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, well others don't seem to have the issues you have and your question is too limiting
[09:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, have you tried changing the driver to vesa? does it still happen?
[09:56] <roconnor> ompaul: yep, I'm up to date.
[09:57] <arnducky> re: ompaul
[09:57] <Asc> richiefrich: look for something with the word 'workspace' in it
[09:57] <roconnor> ompaul: er, I should metion that I am running Dapper now, in case that wasn't clear
[09:57] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> well. my PC restarts itself .
[09:57] <richiefrich> thank you
[09:57] <ompaul> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, that looks like you got the wrong drivers
[09:57] <nox-Hand> ompaul: At the F6 thing, it cannot load kernel - I think I need to have something more to that line?
[09:57] <ompaul> richiefrich, maybe no one knows
[09:57] <nox-Hand> ubuntu vga=771 or something?
[09:58] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> what is the cause of the PC restarting iteslf without any wrong drivers
[09:58] <ompaul> nox-Hand, you just add it to the end
[09:58] <richiefrich> ompaul lool ...
[09:58] <ompaul> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, many possible causes
[09:58] <arnducky> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, have you looked at dmesg ?
[09:58] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> how to check the dmesg thing?
[09:58] <arnducky> tail dmesg
[09:59] <XaXXon> what's the fancy new pretty window manager called?  The one with all the video demos on youtube and such?
[09:59] <Asc> bumptop?
[09:59] <XaXXon> xgl I think
[09:59] <Asc> or the spinning one
[09:59] <ompaul> XaXXon, #ubuntu-xgl
[10:00] <arnducky> it also outputs to one of your terms during boot (often F7 or F9/10 -- just before or after the X-server)
[10:00] <arnducky> (unless you are booting in runlevel 3 or lower that is)
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: probably your pc is overheating.
[10:01] <ompaul> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, (A) make sure you apt-get all the updates (B) make sure you have the right nvidia driver, or better still leave it on the Free one, then you can see if it is happening with that
[10:01] <arnducky> oops PunjabiFLOYDIAN "dmesg tail"
[10:02] <atk> Hi. What are possible reasons why I get send_packet: message too long -error when trying to get an ip? When set ip is set statically I can ping but can't really connect to anything. It's like I can only send one packet per connection.
[10:02] <arnducky> Hey ompaul, have you tried the new GATOS Radeon drivers?
[10:02] <TestDrivenBug> I didnt find good any
[10:03] <arnducky> atk dunno... completed corrupted stack???
[10:03] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok thanks. by the way, can i modify the linux kernel?
[10:03] <Skarr> How do I know wether my computer si 64 or 32 bit?
[10:03] <elmargol> Skarr: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:03] <ompaul> arnducky, no, plain free only
[10:04] <ompaul> arnducky, or should I say out of the box free on ly
[10:04] <TestDrivenBug> I didn't find good answer: Ubuntu binaries are 386 compatible, but are they optimized to take advantage of better cpu?
[10:04] <ompaul> :)
[10:04] <arnducky> re: atk could it be his MTU (system would just fragment everything if it was too low, wouldn't it?)
[10:04] <atk> arnducky: I admit that this edgy eft but it did work just fine with my laptop for a week. I did restart it many times and it still worked but not now. I tried with the older installed kernels, no luck. What could cause such corruption and how to fix it?
[10:04] <ompaul> !edgy
[10:04] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:05] <ompaul> atk, you are in the wrong channel for edgy :)
[10:05] <elmargol> !schedule
[10:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[10:05] <arnducky> atk -- that sounds liek a VERY WEIRD problem to me
[10:05] <arnducky> atk are you using a router? or managed switch (possibly misconfigured)?
[10:05] <atk> ompaul: #ubuntu.edgy?
[10:05] <ompaul>  #ubuntu+1
[10:06] <Asc> Punjab: you can, in a very literal way, modify it as much as you want.
[10:06] <atk> arnducky: adsl modem - dumb switch - laptop
[10:06] <ompaul> always the next / dev channel
[10:06] <atk> right, thanks
[10:07] <arnducky> atk, I remember when Dapper used to break all the time.  Just be patient
[10:07] <TestDrivenBug> any ideras how ubuntu binaries are compiled?
[10:09] <atk> arnducky: yeah.. but I guess you could upgrade. That is something I cant do right now since the problem is the networking
[10:09] <arnducky> TestDrivenBug, try looking at launchpad (retty much the same as Linux all binaries -- with a compiler in the target enviro, against stock libs)
[10:09] <atk> arnducky: And I remember when Debian unstable would break for me ;)
[10:10] <audimage> when installing my nvidia drivers i get the error "you appear to be running an x server please exit x before installing"
[10:10] <audimage> how do i exit x
[10:10] <lastnode_> audimage, er, ctrl+alt+f1 and pkill X?
[10:10] <arnducky> Ctrl-Alt-Bkspc   <-- fastest way hehehe
[10:11] <arnducky> sudo killall startx ?
[10:11] <TheH> is there a way to install nvidia drivers from apt-get I have a 6600gt
[10:11] <TestDrivenBug> arnducky: ty :)
[10:11] <bl4cktone> Hi Everybody!
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> !nvidia > TheH
[10:12] <crashd> hey guys, i was wondering if i can get a little help with firefox32 on 64bit
[10:12] <crashd> i've tried some of the howto's, used one of the scripts on the forums and also downloaded swiftfox32, but all o fthem seem to just run the 64bit version
[10:12] <TheH> Thank you! appreciated!
[10:13] <audimage> pkill x didn't work
[10:14] <arnducky> audimage, Ctrl-Alt-Bkspc   <-- fastest way hehehe
[10:14] <nox-Hand> In the custom boot at the liveCD....
[10:14] <arnducky> you can also switch runlevels with the init command to a runlevel that doesn't support the X-server
[10:15] <nox-Hand> How can I make it boot regularly just with vga=771?
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> arnducky: that doesn't shut down X, that just restarts it.
[10:15] <audimage> how?
[10:15] <audimage> simple=good
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> audimage: first, logout of your session, till you see the gdm login screen. Then, hit ctrl+alt+f1 and login. Finally, type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:16] <arnducky> fyrestrtr, depends on what runlevel you're in and whether it was started manually.
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> audimage: then continue with your nvidia install.
[10:16] <arnducky> If it was started manually it doesn't restart
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> arnducky: yes, but this is ubuntu. If the man is installing nvidia drivers, he probably hasn't messed with the run levels.
[10:17] <arnducky> good pt
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> arnducky: so lets stick to what's closest to ubuntu's profile.
[10:17] <audimage> ive only been using linux for 10 days or so
[10:17] <audimage> im going to give that a try fyre, thanks in advance
[10:17] <nox-Hand> anyone?
[10:18] <arnducky> could he just use top from a term?  (err then we'd have to show him screen and irssi first so he could stay connected here, right?)
[10:18] <arnducky> fyrestrtr, I'm lazy I'd just do "init 3" from a root (or sudo) term
[10:20] <arnducky> if he kills gdm (or kdm or xdm) first the x-server should not restart after Ctrl-Alt-Bkspce too IIRC since the DMs are what restarts it
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> what tha heck top has to do with anything?
[10:20] <carlos> hola
[10:21] <arnducky> top can find and kill process easily -- even renice them
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> talk about using a hammer to swat a fly. Killing a process is *not* how you restart things.
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> its also *not* how you stop things.
[10:21] <arnducky> it can halt stop pause whatever you like
[10:21] <arnducky> lol
[10:22] <arnducky> but I take it suspend and fg are not apropoe here
[10:22] <Asc> but how *do* you stop X, quickly and easily, in a way that a newbie can understand and reliably duplicate and which doesn't leave it disabled?
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> Asc: the way I mentioned.
[10:23] <Skarr> A couple questions: One, how do I switch to root, two, how do I navigate to a folder in terminal?
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> !root > Skarr
[10:23] <arnducky> fyrestrtr, self taught *can't you tell!*   (LMLFTO -- hohohohoho)
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> Skarr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:23] <Asc> fyrestrtr: okay, I'll give you that one.
[10:23] <Skarr> thanks
[10:23] <Skarr> Its just that this tutorial is so confusing
[10:24] <Skarr> Its about using ndis wrapper and stuf
[10:24] <arnducky> Asc killing processes -- like the DM
[10:24] <Skarr> Its for suse but i supose it will work for ubuntu
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> !wiki
[10:24] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> and !wifi
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> !wifi > Skarr
[10:24] <motorcitymadman> Skarr: bash commands : http://www.ss64.com/bash/
[10:24] <bl4cktone> Guys my laptop seems to be running ubuntu great, except when I walk away it will seem as though the system rebooted and was thrown back into logon screen.  think it went to sleep or something?
[10:25] <TheH> I'm installing nvidia driver to use a hdtv on 720p widescreen, should I install nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-dev?
[10:26] <Asc> TheH: -dev is usually required mostly if you need to compile something, in my experience.
[10:26] <TheH> meaning?
[10:26] <Asc> You probably want nvidia-glx
[10:27] <arnducky> fyrestrtr, I missed your answer: all I saw was this: <lastnode_> audimage, er, ctrl+alt+f1 and pkill X?  Mind reposting it?
[10:27] <TheH> sorry I'm chaning from windos
[10:27] <Asc> installing both probably wouldn't hurt anything either. probably.
[10:28] <Skarr> waiiiit a minute, my main account is teh sudo?
[10:28] <TheH> ok thx!
[10:28] <TheH> letz see what happens
[10:28] <Skarr> cause when I type "cd ndis" it doesnt go there
[10:28] <juggernaut1980> anybody know of a good system monitor for ubuntu?
[10:28] <marcin_ant> I would like to compile my own kernel (2.6.18) for machine based on Core 2 Duo CPU
[10:28] <marcin_ant> could someone suggest which CPU should I set in kernel options?
[10:29] <marcin_ant> Pentium Pro?
[10:29] <bikstopa> juggernaut1980: try gnome-system-monitor
[10:29] <juggernaut1980> thanks!
[10:29] <youby> bl4cktone, how is Pref->power_management set?
[10:29] <roconnor> funny, setting the cpu throttling to 87% increases my temperature by 2 degrees
[10:29] <Asc> juggernaut1980: atop.  It's console based, but doesn't eat horrible masses of resources like gnome-system-monitor
[10:29] <Skarr> how do i enter my password in the terminal to be sudo?
[10:29] <TheGateKeeper> I stopped emerge kdebase-startkde half way through, wanted to tidy my system so put emerge -C kdebase-startkde, but it comes back can't find it nothing removed, what is the best thing to do?
[10:30] <Asc> Skarr: I think if you use 'sudo bash' the terminal will start a terminal in which you are root
[10:30] <motorcitymadman> Skarr: sudo then enter passwd
[10:30] <TheGateKeeper> ooops wrong channel sorry folks
[10:31] <Asc> Skarr: it's usually better to use 'sudo [command] ' on a per-command basis though.  If that's what you're asking.
[10:31] <atk> arnducky: it works now https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/dhcp3/+bug/61989
[10:32] <arnducky> kewl!  =)
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> 11:15 < fyrestrtr> audimage: first, logout of your session, till you see the gdm login screen. Then, hit ctrl+alt+f1 and login. Finally, type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:32] <arnducky> Hey -- it was even what I suggested earlier in chan -- the MTU
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> marcin_ant: why are you compiling a new kernel?
[10:33] <youby> where are downloaded packages stored? can I copy these to a cd/usb and put on another unbuntu  machine without re-downloading?
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> youby: yes you can, assuming its the same release (dapper > dapper, not breezy > dapper). They are stored in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:35] <Skarr> I need indepth help, I just dont understand how to do it
[10:35] <youby> Arh Ok (fyrestrtr), thanks I have a look there!!
[10:35] <Skarr> I went CD ~
[10:35] <Skarr> and then, my ndis folder is in home, so afterwards i did cd ndis
[10:35] <Skarr> and it didnt go there
[10:35] <arnducky> atk note: MTU=1500 is appropriate for broadband connections
[10:36] <Asc> marcin_ant: probably *not* Pentium Pro
[10:36] <arnducky> atk should be good for your dsl, but if you enter a 'hard value' it might not work as well with pon/poff
[10:37] <Skarr> So please please help
[10:37] <arnducky> Skarr locate ndis
[10:37] <Skarr> oh
[10:37] <Skarr> so i just type locate ndis into terminal?
[10:38] <atk> arnducky: good to know, thanks
[10:38] <arnducky> If that doesn't work try [bashprompt~#]  sudo updatedb; locate ndis
[10:38] <Skarr> Linux is confusing
[10:39] <arnducky> If you understand regexp and UNIX dir structure you 'find' is more powerfull though
[10:39] <TeePOG> morning all
[10:40] <arnducky> Skarr, anything new and different can be confusing.  Don't give up!
[10:40] <Skarr> arnducky: OK, thanks, I almost did a couple times
[10:40] <arnducky> (look at me: ten years ago I was right where you are, and now I break Linux even faster and harder than before -- just ask fyrestrtr )
[10:41] <_mason> Gday
[10:41] <Skarr> Oh i just got that
[10:41] <Skarr> "firestarter"
[10:41] <Skarr> fahhh
[10:41] <_mason> how can i using bash, given a filename 'foo.bar' can i determine and strip it of its extension ?
[10:41] <arnducky> Skarr, /whois fyrestrtr
[10:42] <Skarr> I know, but i never understood his name
[10:42] <arnducky> (in IRC, not a console)
[10:42] <marcin_ant> fyrestrtr: because I got problem with support for jmicron chip and gigabit lan on asus p5b mobo
[10:42] <arnducky> oh, duh
[10:42] <Skarr> lol
[10:42] <Luna-Tick> Hi guys, I am trying to test IR for my laptop-testing page. I am running Edgy and when I type
[10:42] <Luna-Tick> $ cat /proc/net/irda/discovery I get:
[10:42] <Luna-Tick> IrLMP: Discovery log:
[10:42] <Luna-Tick> Even when there is a palm or phone beaming at it.
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> Luna-Tick: best to ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:43] <marcin_ant> Asc: ok - if not Pentium Pro - then what?
[10:43] <juggernaut1980> i want to install codecs so i can play different vid types like divx/mpg/avi/wmv/mov......how do i go about doing this?
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> juggernaut1980: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:43] <Luna-Tick> LOL - they just sent me here
[10:43] <juggernaut1980> thanks!
[10:43] <Asc> marcin_ant: That the twenty dollar question is.  What kind of CPU do you have?
[10:44] <Luna-Tick> They are right - the problem isn't actually about edgy specifically
[10:44] <fyrestrtr> marcin_ant: okay, what processor do you have?
[10:44] <marcin_ant> fyrestrtr: Core 2 Duo
[10:44] <the1> drools
[10:44] <marcin_ant> Asc: Core 2 Duo
[10:45] <marcin_ant> Asc: btw I wrote this already ;) "I would like to compile my own kernel (2.6.18) for machine based on Core 2 Duo CPU"
[10:46] <TheH> What "linux-restricted-modules" Do I need to install ? I'm running intel for the nvidia drivers
[10:46] <fyrestrtr> marcin_ant: which core 2
[10:46] <Asc> marcin_ant:  true, that.
[10:46] <codecaine> TheH the current kernel your running
[10:46] <codecaine> uname -a
[10:47] <Asc> marcin_ant: could you 'cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep name' and give us the output?
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> TheH: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[10:47] <TheH> I don't really know..
[10:47] <marcin_ant> fyrestrtr: E6400 - 2.13 GHz
[10:47] <hyper> Hiya, how can I best move the mount point of /home to a different partition?
[10:47] <Ademan> !nvidia
[10:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> marcin_ant: you want pentium m then.
[10:47] <TheH> yes I'm there
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> TheH: type that command as I wrote it, complete with the `uname -r` it will find the the right one and install it.
[10:48] <progek> Hello all, are there any drivers I can install to get 3ddesktop working? I doubt it, but here is my card info-> Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 
[10:48] <marcin_ant> Asc: model name      : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6400  @ 2.13GHz
[10:48] <TheH> but it says this: Click the Search button and search for "linux-restricted-modules". You must have restricted modules enabled
[10:48] <progek> 65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter
[10:49] <TheH> ok I don;t need to do it on the synaptic
[10:49] <Asc> marcin_ant: I was hoping there would be a secret name like with the coppermine family.  I'll defer to fyrestrtr's superior knowledge.
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> Asc: the name is 'Conroe' :)
[10:50] <Asc> madness!
[10:50] <TheH> I get this when I run that line: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:50] <TheH> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:50] <juggernaut1980> what's a good app for playing dvd's?
[10:50] <fyrestrtr> TheH: close synaptic first.
[10:50] <TheH> ok thx
[10:50] <Luna-Tick> juggernaut1980:
[10:51] <Luna-Tick> gxine
[10:51] <fyrestrtr> juggernaut1980: the default app will launch when you put a dvd in.
[10:51] <progek> So anyway I can get direct rendering?
[10:51] <marcin_ant> Asc, fyrestrtr: thank you
[10:51] <juggernaut1980> i'll be tryin that now then!  XD
[10:51] <Trackilizer> I just updated to edgy, and now after rebooting, "X" is no longer there.
[10:51] <TheH> downloading thank you!
[10:51] <Trackilizer> How do i restore it?
[10:51] <Luna-Tick> fyrestrtr:  The default (totem) can't play DVDs can it?
[10:51] <marcin_ant> another question is if is there support for gigabit lan on asus p5b
[10:51] <fyrestrtr> Trackilizer: you probably want to ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:51] <fyrestrtr> Luna-Tick: it can if you install the decoders.
[10:52] <Luna-Tick> Really? Oh... I thought that something was missing in Dapper. Sorry
[10:52] <juggernaut1980> i installed the package for gxine, but it didn't put a player in my app list.
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> marcin_ant: lspci -v and find out what is the chipset of you onboard gigabit.
[10:52] <marcin_ant> fyrestrtr: marvell
[10:52] <Bassetts> can someone help me mount a usb flash drive?
[10:53] <fyrestrtr> marcin_ant: the entire thing please. Marvell makes a lot of things.
[10:53] <fyrestrtr> Bassetts: it should do it as soon as you plug it in.
[10:53] <frandavid100> hi, is there a place to discuss the tango and tangerine icon sets?
[10:53] <Bassetts> fyrestrtr, it doesnt =(
[10:53] <marcin_ant> fyrestrtr: just a moment I will paste it somewhere, btw this mobo has 2 gigabyte NIC's
[10:54] <nox-Hand> How do you get xorg to set itself up?
[10:54] <nox-Hand> from cli
[10:54] <juggernaut1980> totem is the app that started up but it gave an error.
[10:54] <the1> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:56] <arnducky> the1; nox-Hand dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[10:56] <arnducky> Unless you're doing a fresh install
[10:56] <juggernaut1980> i keep getting this dpkg: parse error when i do the apt-get install
[10:56] <dankmiser> hello, I am having a problem with azureus, I cannot hide error messages and it doesn't appear on desktop, I have to kill java process to make it go away, please help
[10:57] <bl4cktone> Man my firefox lost it's voice again...
[10:57] <marcin_ant> fyrestrtr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24486
[10:57] <arnducky> juggernaut1980, have you done apt-get update first, etc, etc?
[10:57] <juggernaut1980> i'm really very new to ubuntu.
[10:58] <Ademan> is the nvidia-glx  package proprietary?
[10:58] <juggernaut1980> what does apt-get update do?
[10:58] <arnducky> juggernaut1980, have you tried Synaptic on the GUI or Adept (the ubuntu choice)?
[10:58] <juggernaut1980> Synaptic is the trackpad mouse.  i'm not sure what you mean by have i tried it?
[10:58] <arnducky> juggernaut1980, updates your local cache from the repos
[10:58] <Bassetts> my new usb flash driver isnt working, anyway to make it mount?
[10:59] <lastnode__> i installed flashplugin-nonfree but sound doesnt work. i killed esd. any other ideas?
[10:59] <arnducky> nonono -- the program
[10:59] <juggernaut1980> i'm running update.
[10:59] <mrDaniel> juggernaut1980: with the command 'apt-get update' you refresh your package-lists form the ubuntu-repository
[10:59] <juggernaut1980> yes!  :)
[10:59] <arnducky> Ctrl-Alt-F1 "gksudo Synaptic"
[10:59] <juggernaut1980> sudo apt-get update is exactly what i typed in.
[11:00] <Bassetts> i think its trying to mount my usb flash drive as the same drive as my hard drive, please help
[11:00] <mrDaniel> juggernaut1980: you can use apt-get to install new packages OR you can use synaptic
[11:00] <kaur> my swap partition doesn't get remounted after hibernation. What should i do?
[11:00] <mrDaniel> the only difference is, that the one is under console and the other has a GUI
[11:00] <juggernaut1980> is synaptic GUI?
[11:00] <fyrestrtr> marcin_ant: you need the skge module for your gigabit to work.
[11:00] <mrDaniel> yes
[11:00] <mrDaniel> the pont is
[11:00] <arnducky> you can just chain the commands together "sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" to update you're whole system
[11:00] <juggernaut1980> do i have it?
[11:00] <mrDaniel> in the background synaptic is using the apt-get-library
[11:01] <Bassetts> anyone?
[11:01] <fyrestrtr> its actually using the dpkg functions.
[11:01] <fyrestrtr> apt-get, synaptic, and aptitude are all front-ends to dpkg.
[11:01] <mrDaniel> also: apt-get and synaptic have the same functionality, the difference is only the 'look&feel', the one is e console-program and the other has a GUI
[11:01] <fyrestrtr> Bassetts: what do you see in your system logs when you plugin your usb drive?
[11:02] <mrDaniel> fyrestrtr: are you sure?
[11:02] <fyrestrtr> mrDaniel: :)
[11:02] <arnducky> oooh -- aptitude pretty ncurse + minesweeper +++
[11:02] <Bassetts> fyrestrtr, how do i look?
[11:02] <arnducky> =oD
[11:02] <juggernaut1980> how is that different from gnome-app-install?
[11:02] <fyrestrtr> Bassetts: type tail -f /var/log/messages -- then plugin your usb drive, and watch the screen.
[11:02] <fyrestrtr> juggernaut1980: more options.
[11:02] <Bassetts> fyrestrtr, my main HD goes all weird when i plug the usb in
[11:02] <Farhan> ok. I have a problem, i have a pretty weird situation here i bet someone could help me with.
[11:02] <marcin_ant> fyrestrtr: hmmm thanks but where I can find this module?
[11:02] <fyrestrtr> Bassetts: "all weird" doesn't help. What does it do exactly.
[11:03] <mrDaniel> under 'man synaptic' you can read it
[11:03] <fyrestrtr> marcin_ant: in the kernel configuration menu, under Device Drivers > Networking
[11:03] <zugu> hello all
[11:03] <Bassetts> fyrestrtr, normally it is name 40GB Volume, i put the usb in and its called 40.0 GB Volume: /tmp/disks-conf-sda1
[11:03] <arnducky> juggernaut1980, I highly recommend you look on your start-button --> System
[11:04] <TheH> after runing sudo nvidia *** enable I'm getting this error: Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[11:04] <TheH> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[11:04] <TheH> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[11:04] <TheH> command:
[11:04] <TheH> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[11:04] <TheH> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[11:04] <TheH> from nv to nvidia.
[11:04] <arnducky> oh, and only one program can use the repository cache at a time
[11:04] <fyrestrtr> TheH: learn to use a pastebin please.
[11:04] <arnducky> !pastebin
[11:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:05] <magnuso> Hi all, i had 2 soundcards installed but removed one, but the removed one is still in some settings, is there a way to reset all soundsettings and let ubuntu install them again like when you intalled ubuntu ?
[11:05] <TheH> oh ok sorry I'm new here
[11:05] <TheH> Thanks!
[11:05] <Bassetts> fyrestrtr, nothing comes up when i plug the usb drive in, but i plugged it in before i did that command, unplugged then did the command and plugged it in, shall i restart then do the command then plug it in?
[11:05] <nox-Hand> is it uk or gb as keyboard layout in england?
[11:05] <arnducky> magnuso look in /proc/asound/
[11:05] <magnuso> will do that thx
[11:06] <marcin_ant> fyrestrtr: I cannot see this driver :(
[11:06] <juggernaut1980> brb
[11:06] <Farhan> hmmm is there a way to play multiple sounds with ou a multichannel card like a soundcard on a laptop.
[11:06] <Farhan> out
[11:06] <Bassetts> fyrestrtr, http://rafb.net/paste/results/vVcDGi57.html thats all it says
[11:06] <marcin_ant> fyrestrtr: maybe I need some kind of patch... dunno
[11:06] <zugu> question: if I burn files containing japanese characters in the filenames on a CD, will I be able to copy them in Windows afterwards? Is the CDFS filesystem able to support Unicode characters? I am very concerned about not being able to copy the files in Windows afterwards.
[11:06] <arnducky> magnuso past up the ls -l (you should have a ~/card0/ and a ~/card1/ in there)
[11:07] <arnducky> err, actually maybe installing whatever package gave him alsa or oss might work too: anyone?
[11:08] <Farhan> i use a screenreader right, and it uses software speech and if i wana listen to music i can't use my computer/laptopat the same time.
[11:08] <nox-Hand> is it uk or gb as keyboard layout in england?
[11:08] <arnducky> magnuso, I was going to suggest that you edit all references to the second card out then HUP the soundserver... but
[11:09] <Farhan> i don't have a second card
[11:09] <Farhan> i only have one. its some intel intergraded audio strange thing
[11:09] <magnuso> seems only to have card0 so maybe its finaly gone now, but the mic still dont work on the remaining audigy2 card :(
[11:09] <magnuso> i thought maybe it was becuase i had 2 cards that it didnt install corectly when i isntalled ubuntu
[11:09] <arnducky> lotsa subdirectories to go through that way -- try asking crimsun when you see him -- he's the leet expert here when it comes to sound
[11:10] <Farhan> I don't think anyone cdan help me with this...
[11:10] <Farhan> can
[11:10] <arnducky> magnuso, what modules do you have?
[11:11] <magnuso> snd_emu10k1
[11:11] <magnuso> if that make sense :)
[11:11] <arnducky> cat /proc/asound/modules > pastebin.file
[11:11] <Lewis> Hello, I cannot login to my Ubuntu PC, I type my usernamr and password in, and hit enter, but then a blank screen appears. What should I do to resolve this issue?
[11:12] <fredl> Lewis, hit CTRL-ALT-F1 and try to login in the terminal window
[11:12] <arnducky> emu10k1 is the monolithic SBLive! driver (that's the designation of the chipset/MPU on live cards)
[11:12] <fredl> Lewis, does that work?
[11:12] <ISOLATEDViRuS> i have this glitch and im not sure how to fix it
[11:12] <Lewis> I now have the terminal window on my screen
[11:13] <fredl> Lewis, you have a prompt?
[11:13] <arnducky> gedit ~/pastebin.file and copypaste it to the pastebin URL
[11:13] <Lewis> Yes
[11:13] <magnuso> arnducky, only "0 snd_emu10k1" is that the right one for audigy2 also ? all seems to work well beside i can recode or use skype with it :(
[11:13] <silent_scream> how can i control application with lirc?? i just installed and configured it and it works. but how can i contol i.e. gnomeradio?
[11:13] <fredl> Lewis, try less .xsession-error and see if there's any meaningfull error messages towards the end (hit shift-G to go to the end)
[11:13] <fredl> uhm, less .xsession-errors
[11:13] <arnducky> magnuso, if it's working what are you trying to do??
[11:14] <Lewis> so what do I type in? .xsession-errors?
[11:14] <Overand> arnducky: he can't record
[11:14] <Farhan> fredl
[11:14] <Arcad3> where can i fin xlibs deb file?
[11:14] <arnducky> setmixer - A commandline mixer
[11:14] <Arcad3> *find
[11:14] <TheH> well I'm getting Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[11:14] <TheH>  after runing sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[11:14] <Farhan> Lewis
[11:15] <Farhan> are you logged in?
[11:15] <magnuso> arnducky, ya all works beside the mic input, oki ill try to find setmixer
[11:15] <Lewis> Yes
[11:15] <arnducky> let's review, you can't record but ytou can use Skype?
[11:15] <Arcad3> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:15] <fredl> Lewis, less .xsession-errors
[11:15] <Arcad3> and choose nvidia
[11:15] <TheH> ok thx so much!
[11:15] <magnuso> arnducky, no no skype either
[11:15] <Farhan> try sudo apt-get update and if that works try  apt-get upgrade and then apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:16] <Farhan> and it might fix your issues
[11:16] <arnducky> Arcad1 dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:16] <Lewis> Ok, i did what you said, now what?
[11:16] <eXistenZ> What does 'rm -rf /' do?
[11:16] <Farhan> did apt-get update scan lists and such?
[11:16] <Farhan> rmrf removes files that you select
[11:16] <Farhan> for example: rmrf blablah removes it the folder. blablah
[11:16] <youby> edubuntu Vs ubuntu -  Is it basically the same thing, with educational games pre-loaded, and a colorful look?
[11:17] <arnducky> eXistenZ, DON'T EVEN TYPE THAT IN HERE
[11:17] <silent_scream> what is the command for xmms to show english charakters?
[11:17] <eXistenZ> arnducky, eh, why?
[11:17] <Skarr> Gah.... I tried everything the tutorial is just tooo darn confusing! Isn't there any easier way to do it?!
[11:17] <Farhan> i think the rf part removes recursively downwords.
[11:17] <loz> hi, anyone here know about the ubuntu dapper repos for compiz, and the broken dependancy for csm?
[11:17] <arnducky> eXistenZ, it will recursively remove and force all directories from root on down the tree
[11:17] <k-man_> hello
[11:17] <eXistenZ> arnducky, everything? :O
[11:17] <k-man_> im having trouble burning the ubuntu image to a cd
[11:17] <arnducky> empty or not -- yes everything
[11:17] <Lewis> Farhan, I have typed that into the terminal and hit shift+G, now it says 'end' at that bottom. What should I dp from here?
[11:17] <Farhan> I hope you didn't do it, did you?
[11:18] <k-man_> cdrecord is complaining that its too big
[11:18] <magnuso> arnducky, i use alsa atm all settings for the mic input seems to be fine there i can hear myself but i cant find a "input device" in any software when i try to record
[11:18] <Farhan> what's shift g? do?
[11:18] <Farhan> Lewis
[11:18] <eXistenZ> Farhan, Lol, I did it
[11:18] <arnducky> eXistenZ, did someone tell you to do that??!
[11:18] <Farhan> you bad... no. bad.
[11:18] <Farhan> no no no
[11:18] <fredl> Lewis, see if there's any error messages on the screen that mean anything to you.
[11:18] <eXistenZ> Farhan, When I saw it I pressed ctrl + c
[11:18] <eXistenZ> It was deleting many files
[11:18] <Farhan> uhh
[11:18] <eXistenZ> I just pressed ctrl + c
[11:18] <Farhan> i wonder how you fix that...
[11:18] <fredl> eXistenZ, stop trolling.
[11:18] <Farhan> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[11:18] <Farhan> maybe?
[11:19] <arnducky> magnuso,  -- you say yoy can hear yourself?
[11:19] <Lewis> fredl, I'm new to Ubuntu and dont understand anything onscreen
[11:19] <Farhan> ok...
[11:19] <Arcad3> TheH:now CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[11:19] <magnuso> arnducky, yes but i guess whats missing is a "device" that ubuntu can use to record somehow
[11:19] <fredl> Lewis, I kinda understood that already :)
[11:19] <k-man_> i get this error with cdrecord, write track data: error after 693098496 bytes
[11:19] <TeePOG> more probably, it's sudo reboot -n && <insert Ubuntu CD> && redo installation
[11:19] <k-man_> any ideas why?
[11:20] <Skarr> I THINK I FOUND IT
[11:20] <arnducky> magnuso, how are you hearing the sound -- what program are you using?
[11:20] <Lewis> Yeah, but what should I do from here if I dont understand anything onscreen?
[11:20] <Skarr> all i need now is to know how to install ndis
[11:20] <Farhan> hit control backspace?
[11:20] <Farhan> oops
[11:20] <Farhan> alt
[11:20] <Farhan> see if x comes back up
[11:20] <Skarr> NOOO
[11:20] <Skarr> BROKEN LINK
[11:20] <TheH> for what? reboot?
[11:20] <fredl> Lewis, for some reason your X session doesn't start up
[11:20] <Arcad3> yes
[11:20] <Farhan> oh... seird
[11:21] <silent_scream> what is the command for xmms to show english charakters?
[11:21] <Bassetts> fyrestrtr, i fixed it, seems ubuntu and win doesnt like my front usb drives
[11:21] <magnuso> arnducky, i tried soundrecorder what comes with ubuntu but id dont have anything to select under input device, and i tried skype but it dont even give me any mic settings
[11:21] <Lewis> it does say sonething about cannot create dev/X on there
[11:21] <Farhan> wasn't there a ubuntu path a couple weeks ago that broke the x-windows-systems?
[11:21] <fredl> Lewis, FYI, that's not normal, so you probably did something wrong.
[11:21] <Farhan> patch
[11:21] <Asc> silent_scream: what's it showing right now, if not english characters?
[11:21] <ISOLATEDViRuS> when i use a screensaver, or even preview them, my system locks up..
[11:21] <magnuso> arnducky, and im hearing the sound directly on the speakers
[11:21] <Lewis> I have no idea what I must have done wrong because it worked fine last night
[11:22] <arnducky> magnuso, wa the SB Live card already installed when you installed those apps?
[11:22] <silent_scream> Asc, no some chinese :p
[11:22] <Farhan> Lewis when was the last time you updated before tonight?
[11:22] <Arcad3> where i can find xlibs package?
[11:22] <silent_scream> export_lang something
[11:22] <silent_scream> i can't remember
[11:22] <magnuso> arnducky, ya it was in the box when i installed Ubuntu
[11:22] <Arcad3> what repository?
[11:22] <ISOLATEDViRuS> how do i fix it, im not sure whats wrong.
[11:22] <Asc> silent_scream: Ookay.  Uh, try going to the menu, then options -> preferences -> fonts
[11:23] <TheH> is asking me to enter video card bus identifier
[11:23] <Lewis> I installed Ubuntu last night, then followed some instructions by someone from here to setup my network, that worked and i was able to login/logout after i did that, and I have not updated at all yet
[11:23] <TheH> ?
[11:23] <fredl> Lewis, I'll try to walk you through this. hit q to get out of less.
[11:23] <arnducky> magnuso, if you can playback your voice, then obviously the sound server and alsa are fine -- try reinstalling an app and see what happens (remove it completely first including config files)
[11:23] <silent_scream> yeap i cant Asc i cant read the characters man
[11:23] <magnuso> arnducky, had a internal and a Audigy2 card when i installed but i disabled the internal now but still no input from the Audigy card
[11:23] <Lewis> Ok, done that
[11:23] <Asc> silent_scream: oh, an actual command.  Probably out of my league.
[11:23] <fredl> Lewis, you'll have a prompt then. On the prompt, type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:23] <kraut> moin
[11:24] <magnuso> arnducky, unless it just playbacking when i say directly in the card without anything to do with the drivers
[11:24] <Lewis> Ok, i've typed that in
[11:24] <arnducky> magnuso, so how are you recording your voice?  What do you mean 'no input from the Audigy"
[11:24] <TheH> Ubuntu configuration is asking me to enter video card bus identifier??
[11:25] <Arcad3> just press enter
[11:25] <fredl> Lewis, now try typing startx
[11:25] <Arcad3> until the end
[11:25] <Lewis> a blank screen with a cross-type mouse
[11:25] <magnuso> arnducky, im not recording anything, its giving beck what i say live
[11:25] <ISOLATEDViRuS> can someone help me?
[11:26] <TheH> ok what if I want to have both a lc monitor and my lcd HDTV runing at the same time?
[11:26] <Farhan> fredl, could Lewis have gotten that bad patch that accidentially broke systems a couple weeks ago?
[11:26] <arnducky> you mean you can hear your voice over your speakers coming back at yoiu when you speak into the mic?
[11:26] <magnuso> aye
[11:26] <fredl> Lewis, that's not good. you should get a window manager running. Does the left/right mouse button do anything?
[11:27] <Lewis> nothing
[11:27] <acollins> does anyone know how to change gnome's mime type mappings in edgy?
[11:27] <fredl> Farhan, nope. If that's what he had, X windows wouldn't start up
[11:27] <acollins> i'd like to use acroread instead of gpdf for pdfs
[11:27] <fredl> Lewis, okay that's bad. Kill X windows again by pressn CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE
[11:27] <magnuso> arnducky, but no app i tried so far can find a sound input from a card
[11:27] <Lewis> ok, done that
[11:27] <Farhan> ahh right then, can someone explain what a window manager is? would gdm be a window manager?
[11:28] <arnducky> I know this seems silly, but have you checked to see if your mic is in the line-in port instead of the mic port (red or pink on an audigy card))
[11:28] <fredl> Farhan, nope. GDM is the Gnome Display Manager
[11:28] <fredl> Farhan, and a display is something other than a Window :)
[11:28] <Farhan> i'm not too ood with gui stuff yet i've only use command line when i've used linux the gui is new to me.
[11:28] <Asc> silent_scream: This probably won't help, but try going to the 'fonts' option tab, unchecking the first button, and checking the second.  And, like, pressing apply.
[11:28] <Farhan> right so whatis the default window manager that comes with ubuntu?
[11:28] <magnuso> arnducky, haha i better do that i havent actually checked since i hear myself :P sec
[11:28] <Lewis> I now have the terminal screen now. What shall I type into it?
[11:28] <jack_> where to find an old version of the package?
[11:29] <Arcad3> TheH:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98456
[11:29] <Kendjar> ya un francais ici ?
[11:29] <magnuso> arnducky, ya it is :)
[11:29] <fredl> Lewis, you could try to recover by using sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop
[11:30] <Farhan> fredl i didn't even know there was a --reinstall command, lol i'm an idiot
[11:30] <magical_trevsky> !fr
[11:30] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:30] <magnuso> arnducky, and i can adjust the volume when i change "mic" in sounds settings also so it works that much :/ its strange and i start to get really tired of this now
[11:30] <fredl> Farhan, neither did I until recently.
[11:30] <Farhan> oh oh, now i don't feel so bad. feh.
[11:31] <arnducky> magnuso, I really have no clue at this point but if it were me, I'd try reinstalling apps -- then if that doesn't work reinstall alsa
[11:31] <Lewis> ok, i have put the CD in the CD drive and its now installing
[11:31] <magnuso> arnducky, can it be that i run AMD64 version of ubuntu ? some driver that aint working well ?
[11:31] <dhen_bagoest> hai..
[11:31] <Farhan> fredl you running 6.06 or are you running edgy?
[11:31] <Lewis> Ok, its finished now
[11:31] <arnducky> magnuso, anything is 'possible' but I highly doubt it
[11:31] <silent_scream> Asc, i can't read re menus!!! its in like "???!#@ !? ??!232"
[11:31] <fredl> Farhan, the default Ubuntu wndow manager is (I believe) gnome-session but there's lots of parts to gnome
[11:31] <Farhan> oh
[11:31] <fredl> Lewis, so that worked?
[11:32] <magnuso> arnducky, under proc/sounds can i see "inputs" there somehow? if its missing there i can atleast understand no app finds it
[11:32] <fredl> Lewis, try running /etc/init.d/gdm start then
[11:32] <magnuso> asounds*
[11:32] <kzx> Im connected to another machine with ssh -X and can start X apps. But what about those already running on the remote machine? Can I move them to my display??
[11:32] <Farhan> aptitude seems better then apt-get in a way, but i'm not sure how, maybe apitutde just gets all the suggested packages automaticly.
[11:32] <Farhan> or something
[11:32] <fredl> kzm_, nope.
[11:32] <Farhan> i still want to fix my sound problem.
[11:33] <Arcad3> kzx:use remote desktop connection
[11:33] <arnducky> hmmm -- try apt-get install awesfx   (a utilities package for emu10k1)
[11:33] <fredl> kzm, not to my knowledge at least :)
[11:33] <Farhan> fredl you no anythign about playing multiple sounds ?
[11:34] <Lewis> I did /etc/init.d/gdm start and it came up with failed
[11:34] <Asc> silent_scream: Okay.  Open the menu.  'options' is the fourth entry from the bottom.  It'll open a submenu, and preferences is the first entry on that
[11:34] <magnuso> will try that, file "capture-rates" gives me 4 no input if that helps
[11:34] <silent_scream> Asc, what is the shortkey i must press to open the menu?
[11:34] <Farhan> silent_scream ctrl alt f1
[11:34] <Asc> silent_scream: just click at the top-left of the window
[11:34] <Farhan> crap
[11:34] <Asc> or do like he said
[11:34] <Farhan> altf1
[11:34] <Farhan> i ment alt f1
[11:34] <Farhan> sory
[11:34] <fredl> Lewis, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start, sorry
[11:34] <fredl> Lewis, need to be root to start up gdm
[11:34] <Farhan> i'm really tired or something, tonight i think i'm out, i think its time for bed.
[11:34] <fredl> Farhan, playing multiple sounds?
[11:35] <Farhan> yeah
[11:35] <Asc> Once you get there, 'fonts' is the sixth tab from the left
[11:35] <fredl> Farhan, explain..
[11:35] <Farhan> my screenreader can't talk and me can't listen to music or anything at the same time, i use gnome-orca for my screenreader.
[11:35] <fredl> Farhan, sorry, I have no experience with that.
[11:35] <Asc> Farnham: what program are you using for music?
[11:35] <Farhan> and yasr when i'm the cli
[11:35] <Lewis> I have done what you told me to do and its taken me back to the login screen
[11:35] <Farhan> mplayer?
[11:36] <fredl> Lewis, try to login again, maybe your ubuntu-desktop has been fixed with the --reinstall
[11:36] <Asc> *Farhan: Okay.  You need to install ALSA-dev and compiile it with the --enable-alsa option
[11:36] <magnuso> arnducky, thank you for your time, ill try dig deeper into this, seems to be a so simple thing when the rest is working but ohwell ..
[11:36] <Lewis> Still doesn't login, blank screen...
[11:36] <Asc> Or whatever the heck library is equivalent to ALSA-dev these days
[11:36] <silent_scream> Asc, ok the fonts which tab is it?
[11:36] <Farhan> so what i instlal th alsa-dev  lib and then say what?
[11:36] <arnducky> look in devices
[11:36] <Farhan> uh?
[11:37] <Farhan> recompile it?
[11:37] <fredl> Lewis, Hmmm. Lemme think...
[11:37] <Asc> silent_scream:sixth tab from the left
[11:37] <_mason> in bash I have a string of a filename (/foo/bar) how can i print only the filename bar?
[11:37] <fredl> Lewis, at the login window there's a button in the left corner that says 'options'
[11:37] <arnducky> magnuso, do you have this line: "24: [0- 0] : digital audio capture"
[11:37] <fredl> Lewis, in the session type, make sure you select GNOME
[11:38] <fdoving> _mason: where do you have the /foo/bar string?
[11:38] <Asc> Farhan: To the best of my knowledge, the default mplayer does not have ALSA support, so you have to recompile it
[11:38] <fredl> Lewis, then try to log in again.
[11:38] <MrNaz> ive just installed an ubuntu box, i have an nvidia card in it, but i only get 640, 800 and 1024 resolutions... i have a widescreen monitor, a 2405fpw dell, and i want to run it in 1920x1200
[11:38] <Farhan> what, recompile mplayer or alsa.
[11:38] <MrNaz> is this even possible?
[11:38] <Farhan> hmmm i thought it did, i though everything used lsa.
[11:38] <Asc> Farhan: so you have to recompile.  And when you configure it, you need to tell it to enable alsa
[11:38] <fdoving> !resolution
[11:38] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:38] <Asc> Farhan: mplayer
[11:38] <fdoving> MrNaz: ^^
[11:38] <_mason> fdoving: Just a string e.g. $filepath
[11:38] <Farhan> oh. strange.
[11:39] <Farhan> i think it probably has somethign to do with gnome-orca i'm using also
[11:39] <fredl> Lewis, what session types does it show anyways?
[11:39] <Farhan> because i can't here orca when a gaim sound plays an i no gaim uses alsa.
[11:39] <Lewis> ok, i've chosen GNOME
[11:39] <Asc> farhan: should go something like "./configure --enable-alsa"
[11:39] <arnducky> Asc: won't the oss wrapper for alsa work?
[11:40] <Lewis> shall i try to login now?
[11:40] <arnducky> I've got mplayer on this machine and it works -- was not a custom compile
[11:40] <fredl> Lewis, yup. If it still won't work, repeat and try other session types.
[11:40] <_mason> fdoving: Do you know how?
[11:40] <Asc> arnducky: I don't know much about that.  I do know that the last time I used a default mplayer, it couldn't use sound at the same time as other programs
[11:40] <fdoving> _mason: ok. if you have filepath=/bar/foo you can use for example:  echo $filepath|cut -d / -f 3
[11:41] <Farhan> i think it still has to be a gnome-orca problem or an yasr problem. you need eflite to get yasr to work maybe someone can help me figure this out.
[11:41] <_mason> Thankyou
[11:41] <Farhan> if i could get that working, i'd be hapy
[11:41] <Farhan> happy
[11:41] <Lewis> GNOME doesn't work
[11:41] <fredl> Farhan, in System -> Preferences -> Sound, do you have Enable software sound mixing (ESD) enabled?
[11:42] <fyrestrtr> MrNaz: sure its possible, install the binary drivers for nivida
[11:42] <fdoving> _mason: that would only work for /bar/foo not for /zoo/bar/foo as it uses / as it's delimiter.
[11:42] <fyrestrtr> !nvidia > MrNaz
[11:42] <fredl> Lewis, what other choices for session types do you have?
[11:42] <Farhan> i should
[11:42] <Farhan> its enabled by default right?
[11:42] <fredl> Yeah I think so.
[11:42] <sky123> Hey guys...I started playing around with some email servers for ubuntu....and cam across zimbra. I have it properly installed on dapper and the original setup is for debian 3.1....it works really really well. :)
[11:42] <arnducky> kewl -- I just found a button in alsamixergui that reads the /proc/asound files into one neatly organized page
[11:43] <fdoving> _mason: you can use it with a few revs that might be more failure proof echo $filepath|rev|cut -d / -f 1|rev
[11:43] <sky123> anybody using it??
[11:43] <Farhan> i'll be back in five hours. its sleeping time.
[11:43] <fyrestrtr> _mason: basename
[11:43] <arnducky> It's the 'Alsa' logo (I thought it was just a logo and never tried clicking it before)
[11:43] <ingsoc> How do I install themes for windowmaker?
[11:43] <fdoving> sky123: never heard of it, where did you find it?
[11:43] <_mason> Wooo, fdoving Thankyou very much
[11:44] <_mason> the rev's worked
[11:44] <juggernaut1980> i keep gettin an error when i install these packages.
[11:44] <fdoving> _mason: rev can be very helpfull :)
[11:44] <spinz8r> How to safely uninstall Ubuntu?
[11:44] <fredl> Lewis, there should also be a 'failsafe' session type I believe. it looks ugly but will let you start up things.
[11:44] <kzx> _mason, check out the basename command like fyrestrtr said
[11:44] <sky123> fdoving: well go to - zimbra.com....it will blow you away how sweet their integration pieces are...i am going to consider this my next project
[11:44] <_mason> basename ?
[11:44] <_mason> how do i use that
[11:45] <_mason> basename $string
[11:45] <_mason> ?
[11:45] <fdoving> spinz8r: delete the partitions and restore your mbr from within whatever operatingsystem you'll be downgrading to.
[11:45] <Lewis> I can use GNOME, Defauly System Session, Failsafe GNOME, Failsafe Terminal
[11:45] <kzx> basename $var
[11:45] <arnducky> juggernaut1980, pastebin the error message, then paste the URL that pastebin gives you back in here
[11:45] <sky123> fdoving: and no i dont work for em...this is a shameless plug..
[11:45] <era86> is there anyone that can help me with the install i plan to do with a server install?
[11:45] <sky123> lol
[11:45] <juggernaut1980> how do i use pastebin?
[11:45] <fredl> Lewis, try if Failsafe GNOME works. after that, try Failsafe terminal
[11:45] <sky123> !pastebin
[11:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:45] <arnducky> !pastebin
[11:45] <quilty> Any dual ppc user around? I did the normal installation from the live cd and ubuntu is only using 1 of my 2 cpu's (G4 MDD).
[11:45] <sky123> haha beat you to it...just kidding
[11:45] <fdoving> sky123: can it in any way compare to postfix? that's the question
[11:46] <Lewis> failsafe GNOME did not work
[11:46] <fyrestrtr> quilty: you need to install the smp kernel
[11:46] <sky123> fdoving: it uses postfix
[11:46] <sky123> ;)
[11:46] <Arcad3> can someone give me a link to xlibs for dapper drake 6.06?
[11:46] <quilty> fyrestrtr: any page available where it's explained how to do it?
[11:46] <fredl> Lewis, wow, you seem to really be having a GNOME issue there :) anyway, the Failsafe Terminal session type *should* work
[11:46] <TheH> How do I know if I'm running nvidia driver that I just installed? I don;t see anything under display satting?
[11:47] <_mason> kzx fyrestrtr fdoving : basename works perfectly, but fdoving i will need the |cut you just showed me in a few moments anyway :P Thank you all
[11:47] <stefg> quilty: and check if gnome-system-monitor isn't fooling you (in case you use that). rather see dmesg if only one cpu is used
[11:47] <fyrestrtr> quilty: just search for a smp kernel in repos, then install it via apt-get and reboot.
[11:47] <arnducky> quilty in Debian you jsut find the kernel package and install the SMP kernel -- even lilo and grub should be updated
[11:47] <sky123> !fglrx
[11:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:47] <TheH> I have done that
[11:47] <quilty> fyrestrtr: thanks, will do so
[11:47] <fredl> Lewis, when you have the failsafe terminal session going you should be able to get a browser started. you may need to experiment a little with the mouse buttons so see how you can start up things though
[11:47] <Steven_M> does anyone know why the screen resolution is different if I start fluxbox using startx -- :1 than when I start it through kdm?
[11:48] <sky123> TheH: I guess rnning glxgears or that tron game..lol..see if 3d works..
[11:48] <fyrestrtr> Steven_M: probably because you aren't using the same xorg.conf file.
[11:48] <arnducky> Steven_M, obviously kdm is passing an argument to startx
[11:48] <Lewis> ok, i have a little terminal window on my screen in the bottom right now
[11:48] <fredl> sky123, it looks to me like zimbra isn't free software.
[11:49] <fredl> Lewis, in that terminal window type firefox&
[11:49] <TheH> damn I don't know what I'm doing, just fallowing directions to get drivers to work
[11:49] <sky123> fredl: check the opensource version ;)
[11:49] <Lewis> Firefox just appeared
[11:49] <seth_> After upgrading Dapper I get the famous error "Cannot open '/dev/pg*'" from cdrecord. I have been checking the forums but get conflicting info from them (I'm using an ata drive). Does anyone know how this should be setup?
[11:49] <TheH> on fedora I get nvidia display config windows
[11:50] <fredl> !paste
[11:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:50] <TheH> there is no such think on ubuntu?
[11:50] <Arcad3> no
[11:50] <fredl> okay Lewis, go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and see if you can figure out how to cut & paste the contents of your .xsession-errors file in there, you think you can do that?
[11:51] <stefg> TheH: relax :-) the nvidia-control-applet is a seperate download. just see glxinfo | grep direct to verify your D is working
[11:52] <stefg> *3d
[11:52] <TheH> ok thx, how do I get to that game? damn I feel so dumb here lol
[11:52] <Arcad3> why does anyone answeres my question?
[11:52] <SpaceFrog> hi guys.
[11:52] <SpaceFrog> ATI drivers are killing me :(
[11:53] <fredl> sky123, is the opensource version GPLv2?
[11:53] <SpaceFrog> I've spent 7 hours trying to figure this out
[11:53] <Steven_M> ok, where abouts do I set it in xorg.conf file? It usaully has a number of resolution settings and I never know which one to alter
[11:53] <Lewis> how do i get to my .xsession-errors file up?
[11:53] <TheH> nvidia ones are killing me lol
[11:53] <SpaceFrog> lol
[11:53] <stefg> TheH: have you already done anything to install the proprietary Nvidia-driver?
[11:53] <chillmode> ok i installed ubuntu on my laptop but the screensavers moves very slow. can i be a problem with the gfx drivers or  is this normal?
[11:53] <fredl> Lewis, you can open up another terminal window by typing gnome-terminal& in the first window
[11:53] <TheH> yes I did all of it
[11:54] <sky123> fredl: ill have to check on that...but it does have some info on what the opensource version is on the website...so ill have to search for it..
[11:54] <TheH> I shouyld have it now
[11:54] <fredl> Lewis, make that second terminal window larger and do less .xsession-errors in it
[11:54] <fredl> Lewis, go to the end of the file with shift-G again
[11:54] <stefg> TheH: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[11:54] <fredl> Lewis, en paste the last chunk of what you see on the screen to pastebin
[11:54] <seth_> Arcad3: Most questions get ignored from this channel. What was your question?
[11:55] <fredl> sky123, it looks like there's a whole slew of licenses.
[11:56] <juggernaut1980> i hope this worked.  here's the pastebin location for the error i'm getting:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24488
[11:56] <fredl> sky123, they have something called the 'Zimbra Public License' which is 'based on' the mozilla public license.
[11:56] <_mason> kzx fyrestrtr fdoving : With your help i was able to finish my nautilus-script to convert bin/cue to iso/cdr Would you like a copy? or see it?
[11:56] <TheH> I have already downloaded the drivers, install them, then I did the linux-restricted-modules
[11:57] <sky123> fredl: yeah that license is actually pretty nice...the freeswitch guys are on that too... the fork from asterisk..
[11:57] <SpaceFrog> WHy is it that when i run fglrxinfo, it says stuff about Mesa3D project or something rather than ATI?
[11:57] <TheH> then I got an error so I went and did  sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[11:57] <fredl> sky123, I frequently find that I don't like vendor specific diversions of the GPL.
[11:57] <stefg> TheH: the one-liner to get 3D: 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable'
[11:58] <phreakys_> how do i disable acpi?
[11:58] <TheH> but after doing ctrl atl backspace I did not see any nvidia logo
[11:58] <justthisguy> Hi guys, I've recently (finally!) upgraded to dapper with apt-get update/apt-get dist-upgrade, and a coupla things have broke. My nic and soundcard stopped working, though I've found the right modules to insmod and theyre working ok now, just that I have to run several commands every time I boot. I could write a script, but wheres the best ( ie most standard ) place to put it? Also, suddenly beep-media-player is really slo
[11:58] <justthisguy> own the computer. Finally, does anyone know the module for a microshaft wireless notebook optical mouse? Many thanks in advance
[11:58] <Lewis> i get an error in the white terminal and a black box appears when i type in gnome-terminal&
[11:58] <mybers> hello everyone! just like to ask how can you make the gdm/x server start autmatically again from booting up with console?
[11:58] <stefg> TheH: that's fine... the new versions don't show it anymore
[11:58] <larsemil> wich flight is edgy now?
[11:58] <sky123> fredl: agreed..but once i am done with the rest of the setup...i want to see what these people have come up with...some features look nice..and the ajax based zimlets are pretty cool.
[11:59] <fredl> sky123, so I only use applications with such licenses when I really have to. I know the GPL is subject of scrutiny by many people and legal support by the FSF if neccesary. This is not the case for vendor specific diversions.
[11:59] <SpaceFrog> how can  i find out what driver my vid card is using?
[11:59] <mybers> instead of being booted/started w/ only console...it will start ghe gdm right away
[12:00] <larsemil> SpaceFrog, glx_info
[12:00] <mybers> gdm rather
[12:00] <fredl> Lewis hmmm. Do sudo apt-get install gnome-terminal
[12:00] <TheH> so I should have it then. I guess, tomorrow I'll play with my hdtv settings, Thanks a lot!! appreciated!
[12:00] <gustavnilsson> Hi all!
[12:00] <larsemil> SpaceFrog, oh. glxinfo - no _
[12:00] <stefg> TheH: glxinfo | grep direct should yield a line with yes in it :-)
[12:00] <SpaceFrog> thanks larsemil... aargh what is the Mesa3D shit and where is ATI?
[12:01] <larsemil> SpaceFrog, then it is not installed. :)
[12:01] <SpaceFrog> What a great way to waste my weekend, hehe
[12:01] <TheH> Thanks!!
[12:01] <juggernaut1980> arnducky stil here?
[12:01] <mybers> kamusta?
[12:02] <fredl> Lewis, I am curious as to why you wouldn't have gnome-terminal installed. this makes me suspicious that somehow you've completely messed up your GNOME installation.
[12:02] <arnducky> juggernaut1980, yeah -- trying to work on my own system RN though
[12:02] <juggernaut1980> oh!  ok!
[12:03] <gustavnilsson> I have a big problem. I installed ubuntu on a server, that before was running crux, everthing worked well, but after I saw that the backup I made was broken, is there any canche to restore the old data, and if it's how then? On the old crux system the /home was placed at the end of the hdd and on this new system I'm running everything in a partition. Ext3 on the booth systems
[12:03] <TheH> it says yes
[12:03] <TheH> meaning they are installed?
[12:03] <mybers> any tulong about the gdm/xserver startup on bootup?
[12:03] <arnducky> juggernaut1980, try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure all" then try again
[12:03] <Hoxzer> Hi, after I uninstalled jackd gnome wont load up propelly, /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /var/log/gdm/0:log doesn't show any errors
[12:03] <fredl> Lewis, you still here?
[12:03] <juggernaut1980> ok hold on
[12:04] <Lewis> Yes
[12:04] <justthisguy> anyone?
[12:04] <fredl> Lewis, did you sudo apt-get install gnome-terminal?
[12:04] <Lewis> I did the sudo apt-get install gnome-terminal and apparently its all ok
[12:04] <juggernaut1980> command not found
[12:04] <Lewis> Already at the newest version it says
[12:04] <Hoxzer> Doods
[12:04] <_mason> from the terminal is there a way i can bring up a visual dialog?, in javascript you can " alert("foo"); "
[12:05] <fredl> Lewis, Hmmm. okay in the one window do /usr/bin/gnome-terminal&
[12:05] <fredl> brb
[12:05] <stefg> gustavnilsson: that means you repartitioned the drive to install ubuntu, and now you want data back from a partition that does no more even exist? No way!
[12:05] <TheH> Thank you all for your help, be back tomorrow. Thanks!
[12:05] <arnducky> stefg, that's not true
[12:05] <gustavnilsson> stefg: yes, exactly my problem..
[12:06] <arnducky> unless he formated the partition the data is still all there -- jsut loose
[12:06] <juggernaut1980> worked that time, said it needs an action option.
[12:06] <arnducky> gustavnilsson, what FS?
[12:06] <stefg> arnducky: Ok, you could do forensics on the last sectors... but that's only theory
[12:06] <gustavnilsson> arnducky: ext3
[12:06] <arnducky> stefg bullshit
[12:06] <SpaceFrog> :( Why doesn't fglrx support my card?
[12:07] <we2by> hi
[12:07] <SpaceFrog> I have a sapphire RADEON 9250 128MB
[12:07] <we2by> how do I change my defualt file browser to thunar?
[12:07] <SpaceFrog> I've been trying all day to get 3d accelleration working
[12:07] <arnducky> all he needs is to do rebuild the partitiion tables
[12:08] <seth_> justthisguy: One thing at a time. How are you starting this hardware(modules)?
[12:08] <gustavnilsson> arnducky: so I need to know my old partition table?
[12:08] <Lewis> I got another error in the white box and a blank black box top left appeared
[12:08] <stefg> !info ddrescue
[12:08] <ubotu> ddrescue: copies data from one file or block device to another. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.10-1 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 76 kB
[12:08] <justthisguy> seth_: sudo modprobe maestro and 8139too. That got my sound and
[12:08] <justthisguy> nics working
[12:08] <arnducky> gustavnilsson, exactly -- you will need to edit it manually DONOT use an automatic partitioner
[12:09] <arnducky> gustavnilsson, you will need the exact start and end sectors for the partition you want to read
[12:09] <seth_> Instead of writing a script you can just edit the file: /etc/modules
[12:09] <arnducky> then you *should* be able to read it simply with dd
[12:09] <stefg> This is what i meant by : this is theory
[12:09] <justthisguy> seth_: ok
[12:09] <gustavnilsson> arnducky: do you know any howto about that?
[12:10] <stefg> gustavnilsson: maybe testdisk could help
[12:10] <arnducky> stefg it is not theoryit is practical -- it has been done a zillion times
[12:10] <stefg> !info testdisk
[12:10] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.1-1 (dapper), package size 386 kB, installed size 1124 kB
[12:11] <Lewis> Any ideas on what I should do from here-on?
[12:11] <seth_> justthisguy: For example putting the word maestro would make the module start on bootup.
[12:11] <sv452> hi all
[12:11] <arnducky> it is not forensics either (if you mean cracking the case in a clean room)
[12:11] <kzx> Check out gpart for finding partition layout on a disk
[12:11] <arnducky> gparted
[12:11] <sv452> does anybody have any idea if there is a program similar to mobile phone tools for motorola phones on linux/debian/ubuntu ?
[12:11] <neildarlow> latest firefox update has broken firefox and epiphany for me :(
[12:12] <arnducky> gustavnilsson, gparted
[12:12] <gustavnilsson> arnducky: ok
[12:12] <arnducky> and FGS, mount the disk as ro (read only) before you touch it
[12:12] <Hoxzer> does synaptic generate logfile
[12:12] <neildarlow> sv452: there's various available for Qt/KDE
[12:13] <arnducky> I'd make a 'forensic' copy if you have any media available
[12:13] <Lewis> Oh, the black screen is now white and is a terminal window, what shall i do now?
[12:13] <seth_> justthisguy: For your other question about the mouse - most mice just work in ubuntu.
[12:13] <arnducky> Symantec Ghost is now available in a Linux edition, BTW
[12:13] <kzx> gustavnilsson: I meant gpart, not gparted. It means "guess partition"
[12:13] <gustavnilsson> well, thx for the information, it sounds like tehre is a little hope
[12:13] <sv452> do they work the same way as mobile phone tools for motorola phones ??? and whould you have a few names please ?
[12:13] <neildarlow> sv452: i'd give you some links but latest security update has broken my web browsers
[12:13] <gustavnilsson> kzx: ok
[12:14] <Ferramentapenna> Can someone tell me how to log in just with the command line, and not X?
[12:14] <justthisguy> seth_: it did in breezy, unfortunately it doesnt now
[12:14] <arnducky> gustavnilsson, lotsa hope if you are 'technical'
[12:14] <neildarlow> Ferramentapenna: Ctrl-Alt-F1 and login as normal
[12:14] <Ferramentapenna> Ctrl-Alt-F1?  OK, thanks a lot.
[12:14] <seth_> justthisguy: I'm using a micsoft wireless mouse in Dapper right now.
[12:14] <neildarlow> Ferramentapenna: Alt-F7 to get back to X login screen
[12:14] <Arcad3> no one of u GENIESES can tell me where to find xlibs for Ubuntu dapper drake 6.06?
[12:14] <sv452> oh so not nice - :( - my phone was in an accident and my screen is busted - i at least managed to pair bt to get a dialup! i need to get to my phonebook and sms and stuff
[12:15] <arnducky> like I said, all your data is still there unless you formated the partitions or wrote over the physical space in some other way (like making new partition in that space)
[12:15] <Ferramentapenna> Another qustion;  Kiba-dock is just showing as a black box, seems to be a draw issue.  Anyone know how to resolve it?
[12:15] <fdoving> _mason: yes please, i can take a look at your script :)
[12:15] <Arcad3> no one of u GENIESES can tell me where to find xlibs for Ubuntu dapper drake 6.06?
[12:15] <arnducky> when you format that's when mkfs is going to write %7 to ever byte
[12:16] <_mason> fdoving, its changed quite a bit since then, give me a moment, and ill upload it
[12:16] <neildarlow> Arcad3: they're in the respositories
[12:16] <Lynoure> Arcad3: Where on the filesystem installed or where a package?
[12:16] <Ferramentapenna> Arcad3:  Use Synaptic.
[12:16] <eclair> anyone here using xfburn?
[12:16] <fredl> Lewis, still here?
[12:16] <fdoving> _mason: great :)
[12:16] <Arcad3> its not:(
[12:16] <arnducky> kzx how 'safe'is gpart?
[12:16] <Lewis> yes
[12:16] <Arcad3> give me a link pls
[12:16] <sv452> @ neildarlow - do u know any off hand maybe
[12:16] <fredl> Lewis, so it opened up another window when you did /usr/bin/gnome-terminal& ?
[12:16] <fdoving> Arcad3: packages.ubuntu.com
[12:17] <Lewis> yes
[12:17] <Ferramentapenna> Arcad3:  It's integrated.  System - Administration - Synaptic Package Manager
[12:17] <Lynoure> Arcad3: apt-cache search xlibs
[12:17] <eclair> can anyone here compare maybe xfburn and gnomebaker?
[12:17] <neildarlow> sv452: Google Linux mobile phone tools
[12:17] <Arcad3> i searched there is just xlibs-dev
[12:17] <seth_> justthisguy: You're trying to have the mouse and the touchpat
[12:17] <Ferramentapenna> Anyone know how to make Kiba-dock not be a buggy black bar?
[12:17] <fredl> Lewis, make that new window real large, do less .xsession-errors in it, shift-g to go to the end, and paste what you see on the screen in pastebin
[12:17] <Lynoure> Arcad3: What do you want? For what use?
[12:17] <sv452> i have just the other way round
[12:17] <sv452> hehehehe
[12:17] <arnducky> neildarlow, try kmobiletools
[12:17] <Arcad3> my application needs xlibs
[12:17] <seth_> justthisguy: You're trying to have the mouse and the touchpad to both work?
[12:17] <neildarlow> arnducky: that's the one :)
[12:17] <Lynoure> Arcad3: What application?
[12:17] <arnducky> kmobiletools ships with kubuntu -- it's already there
[12:18] <Arcad3> doesnt matter
[12:18] <kzt> Ferramentapenna, i assume you are using compiz. right?
[12:18] <Lewis> i cant make the terminal window really large
[12:18] <yugge> Hey guys
[12:18] <kzx> arnducky: gpart scans the entire disk and shows suggested partition types. Read-only
[12:18] <justthisguy> seth_: nah, at the moment my (knob not touchpad) works, but my mouse doesnt if I plug it in.
[12:18] <Ferramentapenna> kzt:  Not yet, was working on getting that and Xgl after I get kiba working.  Do I need it?
[12:18] <arnducky> sv452 kmobiletools
[12:18] <Lynoure> Arcad3: Then it does not matter indeed, it might be packaged wrong.
[12:18] <Arcad3> Yahoo Messenger:D
[12:18] <fredl> Lewis, why not?
[12:18] <kzt> yep. otherwise it will show as a black box as you said.
[12:19] <sv452> why does synaptic chuck away my dl deb files when i set the options to never get rid of it ??
[12:19] <neildarlow> could someone check the forums to see of the latest firefox security update is borked please. i don't have any browsers now
[12:19] <Ferramentapenna> kzt:  Thanks a lot, I will work on that.
[12:19] <Lewis> ok. its large now
[12:19] <sv452> thanx arnducky - checking it out now
[12:19] <_mason> fdoving : http://lazzareth.com/scripts/
[12:19] <arnducky> kzt -- I seem to remember from when I messing around with ntfsresize on a live disk bwahahahaaaa...
[12:20] <yugge> Um, I screwed up grub while installing xp on my laptop (dual-boot yeah =/). So last night, i got grub up again by setting it up from a live-cd...now however. I can't get into winxp. anyone know how to add it?
[12:20] <fdoving> _mason: thanks.
[12:20] <arnducky> sv452, there are other options too (especially if you have a Nokia)
[12:20] <kzt> sorry, i didn't get what you mean.
[12:20] <arnducky> nokia <3 <3  <3
[12:20] <frogzoo> yugge: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst - then 'sudo update-grub'
[12:20] <yugge> kzt: who me?
[12:20] <_mason> fdoving Not a problem, if your like me and have got 1020190921 thousand unuseable .bin's lying around this will prove quite usefull
[12:21] <yugge> frogzoo: thanks. Will try
[12:21] <codecaine> you can skip ubuntu install and go to grub it will auto configure for you yugge
[12:21] <kzt> no yugge, i was referring to arnducky's message..
[12:21] <arnducky> kztkzt -- I mean I think I came across gpart before: after blasting disks with ntfsresize
[12:21] <arnducky> hehehe
[12:22] <kzt> got it :0
[12:22] <fdoving> _mason: sure. you can use 'zenity' to display your messages. popup-dialog-thing.
[12:22] <seth_> justthisguy: I think it may have something to do with having 2 mice (the knob + the wireless mouse).
[12:22] <_mason> Wow, Thanks!
[12:22] <Lynoure> Arcad3: The Debian package for it is for Debian... Ubuntu often has different package names, so it's not going to be that straightforward
[12:22] <arnducky> BTW, there is finally a stable ntfs FS driver for writing to ntfs  -- yayyyyy!
[12:23] <yugge> codecaine: I will consiter it
[12:23] <yugge> frogzoo: still don't know what to write in menu.lst
[12:23] <justthisguy> yugge: man menu.lst :)
[12:23] <codecaine> just let ubuntu do it for you yugge
[12:23] <codecaine> :P
[12:23] <Lewis> Pasted into pastebin :)
[12:23] <Lewis> What do I do once submitted?
[12:24] <arnducky> Lynoure, most of them are the same except for 'meta-packages' (eg. kubuntu-desktop)
[12:24] <fredl> Lewis, what's the URL you see in firefox after you pasted it?
[12:24] <drumline> will update-grub add in the WindowsXP chainloader stuff?
[12:24] <seth_> justthisguy: I couldn't find anything on this on the ubuntu wiki, but for my laptop (which has gentoo installed) I was able to do it using instructions from the gentoo wiki.
[12:24] <juggernaut1980> can someone help me with this error i keep getting when i try to install a package?
[12:24] <kaur> it seems that my laptop doesn't remount swap after hibernation. What to do?
[12:24] <justthisguy> seth_: Ok I'll have a look round then. thanks
[12:24] <yugge> codecaine: oh, thats right. I forgot you can skip :D
[12:24] <arnducky> juggernaut1980, same weird 'MSDOS EOF' error?
[12:24] <Lynoure> Arcad3: You can to dissect it and repackage it for Ubuntu, but Yahoo licence might or might not allow that
[12:24] <Lewis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24490
[12:24] <fredl> sky123, you're right though, zimbra looks very impressive.
[12:25] <juggernaut1980> arnducky:  exactly right!
[12:25] <codecaine> :p
[12:25] <juggernaut1980> there shouldn't be any references to msdos in linux, right?
[12:25] <sky123> fredl: its pretty sweet..atleast the demo.. ;)
[12:25] <seth_> justthisguy: You may be able to get some ideas from here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Second_Mouse
[12:25] <drumline> yugge, is that working?
[12:25] <codecaine> there is one juggernaut
[12:25] <codecaine> you can download
[12:25] <codecaine> :P
[12:25] <Arcad3> no prob with LICENSE hehe thanks for the ideea
[12:25] <codecaine> there dos emulators
[12:25] <arnducky> It looks like a broken package to me, I'm afraid.  About all you can do is contact the pkg maintainer or developer AFAIK.
[12:25] <arnducky> What app?
[12:25] <kaur> it seems that my laptop doesn't remount swap after hibernation. What to do? Please help!!
[12:25] <sky123> fredl: ill have to understand their full structure and how they are using the opensource packages....but looks heavy ajax/java stuff
[12:25] <fredl> Lewis, that's all you managed to paste?
[12:26] <juggernaut1980> no matter what package i try to install it keeps doing that.
[12:26] <juggernaut1980> i just tried it with gkrellm
[12:26] <arnducky> what?!?
[12:26] <voraistos> kaur: install 1 GB of ram, so u dont need swap anymore lol
[12:26] <ballistix> hey guys, im a bit of an ubuntu noob and i could use some help please! :D anyway, im trying to compile, and im getting the error "/usr/lib/libSDL_image.a(IMG_jpg.o): In function `IMG_LoadJPG_RW': undefined reference to `jpeg_std_error'" with the JPEG, TIFF and PNG libraries. i apt-get'd the libjpeg, libtiff and libpng library, but the error still appears. is there something else that i am meant to do?
[12:26] <Arcad3> kaur:then never put it to hibernation
[12:26] <Lewis> was there supposed to be more?
[12:27] <Gasten> If my computer seems to be slower than it were on windoes 98, and programs (even nautilus) take long time to boot, would you suggest me to change the desctop eviroment from Gnome to Xfce? anything else?
[12:27] <seth_> I get the famous error "Cannot open '/dev/pg*'" from cdrecord. I have been checking the forums but get conflicting info from them (I'm using an ata drive). Anyone have any Ideas?
[12:27] <arnducky> juggernaut1980, ARE YOU SAYING THAT 99oops00 any program in the repository that you try to install gives you taht error?
[12:27] <kaur> voraistos: i have 1GB of ram but i prefer to hibernate to swap partition
[12:27] <fredl> Lewis, not 'supposed to' but I had hope to see a few more lines yeah. Just these few lines show some weird messages but nothing particular.
[12:27] <voraistos> kaur: ah!
[12:27] <Asc> Gasten: first try a 'sudo hdparm /dev/hda' and see if DMA is working
[12:28] <juggernaut1980> arnducky:  that's exactly what's happening here.  it worked earlier with xmms, but now i can't get anything!  :(
[12:28] <kaur> Arcad3: hibernation is needed with laptops
[12:28] <fdoving> Gasten: xfce is faster, so, if you want fast, you can atleast try it.
[12:28] <voraistos> ballistix: what about the sdl libraries ?
[12:28] <Schalken> how come when i do "syslinux /dev/sdb1" it says "sh: mcopy: command not found"?
[12:28] <Lewis> Updated it but theres nothing massively changed on there
[12:28] <ballistix> how would i grab them?
[12:28] <Lewis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24491
[12:29] <Gasten> Asc: I have done it. how do I tell if it's working?
[12:29] <juggernaut1980> do you think my dpkg is messed up then?
[12:29] <we2by> how do I change my defualt file browser to thunar?
[12:29] <arnducky> juggernaut1980, very possible
[12:29] <ballistix> voraistos: how would i apt-get them? i've got sdl and sdl_image installed
[12:29] <juggernaut1980> is there a way that i can remove that current installation and slap a new one on there?
[12:29] <arnducky> that kind of problem is quite beyond me though -- sorry
[12:29] <fredl> Lewis, do you have a lot of personal stuff already on yoru system?
[12:29] <voraistos> ballistix: i dunno, i take a look
[12:29] <Asc> Gasten: look at the line that says 'using_dma' and see if it says 'on' or 'off'
[12:29] <ballistix> thanks
[12:30] <Lewis> Family accounts, my network...thats all
[12:30] <juggernaut1980> argh!  well, thanks anyway, you've been a great help with your answers.  :)
[12:30] <kaur> does anyone have a clue why my laptop doesn't mount swap after hibernation?
[12:30] <Gasten> Asc: Ah, there. I didn't see it. it is using DMA. I'll look into switching then. For a while.
[12:30] <arnducky> I wish I was  :-P
[12:30] <Gasten> Asc: thanks.
[12:30] <fredl> Lewis, if you haven't really done anything yet, I'd recommend reinstalling Ubuntu. Something has gone real wrong with your system and it's hard for me to try and walk you through this when you still have such limited knowledge...
[12:30] <FurryNemesis> anyone know where I untar gtk2 themes to?
[12:31] <fredl> Lewis, sorry that I can't give you a silver bullet that fixes your problem :)
[12:31] <Asc> Gasten: actually, I was thinking that maybe it was slow because DMA was disabled.
[12:31] <Schalken> how come when i do "syslinux /dev/sdb1" it says "sh: mcopy: command not found"???
[12:31] <Asc> Gasten: Hm.  How fast is your computer, out of curiosity?
[12:31] <voraistos> ballistix: do u have libsdl1.2-dev or something like that ?
[12:31] <_mason> fdoving with zenity what units is --width in ?
[12:32] <fredl> schalken: mcopy is not installed. So install it.
[12:32] <Gasten> Asc: 1 x Pentium III (Coppermine) @ 733MHz
[12:32] <ballistix> i don't have dev, ill try getting it
[12:32] <Schalken> fredl: where from?
[12:32] <_mason> fdoving i tried 600 = no effect, and 600px = error
[12:32] <fredl> Schalken how did you install syslinux?
[12:33] <Schalken> fredl: repos
[12:33] <neildarlow> how do i recover from "parse error in /var/lib/dpkg/available" situations?
[12:33] <fredl> Schalken, Hmm, then the syslinux package doesn't have proper dependencies I'd say
[12:33] <fdoving> _mason: width?
[12:33] <Lewis> fredl, I am so appreciative of your help. I will install Ubuntu, and see how it goes on from there. Any reccomendations of what to avoid? Like chaging certain settings etc...?
[12:33] <Asc> Gasten: well, that is odd.  I was using a P3 coppermine at 500 mhz and it worked fine with gnome.
[12:33] <finalbeta> I just had a report of a person trying to install ubuntu on some other website. Once the cursor appears on the Live CD, it keeps reading from the CD? but nothing loads. I think the problem is he only has 256MB of ram. How doe sit work if you have low ram/ no swap. Can ubuntu live CD boot? What do you guys think of the high memory consumption of ubuntu. It takes much more then an XP box for me.
[12:34] <Matix> hi
[12:34] <Lewis> *reinstall
[12:34] <_mason> fdoving .. Yeah?
[12:34] <Asc> Gasten: is it, like, problematicly slow, or does it just take 10-15 seconds for things to start?
[12:34] <Schalken> where can i get mcopy???
[12:34] <Gasten> Asc: Oh, I didn't say it didn't work fine. I just wanna see if it can work Better.
[12:34] <fredl> Lewis, no, changing setting is fine. While you're still inexperienced, try not putting lots of your stuff on your system so it's easy to reinstall.
[12:34] <_mason> fdoving its in the man file of zenity but it doesnt say what units its in, and just numeral doesnt work
[12:34] <fredl> Schalken, when you installed syslinux...
[12:35] <Matix> can i instal ubuntu 6.06 on my pc (pentium 233mhz and 196Mb RAM)?
[12:35] <fredl> Schalken, it said: Recommended packages:
[12:35] <fredl>   mtools
[12:35] <Schalken> fredl: yes...
[12:35] <Lewis> Ok, thanks fredl. :D
[12:35] <Gasten> Asc: it takes more like... 5-15 sec.
[12:35] <juggernaut1980> finalbeta:  i just put ubuntu on my lappy and had that same problem with the livecd.
[12:35] <neildarlow> Schalken: mtools?
[12:35] <justthisguy> Matix: yup
[12:35] <Schalken> mtools!
[12:35] <Matix> tx
[12:35] <fredl> Schalken, sometimes those apt-get messages are worth reading :P
[12:35] <Schalken> cool i'll try it
[12:35] <fredl> Lewis, enjoy :)
[12:35] <Gasten> Asc: maybe I'm just whiney for nothing.
[12:35] <fdoving> _mason: never used --width do you need it? won't the dialog resize itself or wrap the text to match your input?
[12:35] <finalbeta> juggernaut1980, do you think it was running out of memory? PS, using dapper?
[12:35] <juggernaut1980> 'cept my install went a little farther, but would still freeze up.  you should try the alternate install cd.
[12:36] <Asc> Gasten: Da.  Da.  Well, in my experience, the desktop environment doesn't affect much except RAM usage.  If you want a really minimal window manager though, I'd recommend ion.
[12:36] <Schalken> fredl: it didnt actually say anything. maybe i will set it to treat recommendations as dependencies from now on.
[12:36] <Asc> Gasten: It might or might not be faster, I haven't really used gnome in a long time
[12:36] <dibblego> was a firefox update just made available?
[12:36] <_mason> fdoving Well, its no big deal, ive macgyvered the problem by just adding '           ' x 10 to the text
[12:36] <kzt> finalbeta, you may be interested in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/knot-3/ and see the "alternate install CD"
[12:36] <juggernaut1980> finalbeta:  that was my problem.  my sys is a lappy with shared vid ram.  ubuntu installed just fine and runs speedily when i did the text install.
[12:36] <Gasten> Asc: Ok. Thne Ithink I'll stick to gnome. No need to hassle.
[12:37] <finalbeta> Ok. thnx.
[12:37] <fdoving> _mason: that could be a bad solution, considering font sizes and font types etc.
[12:37] <juggernaut1980> finalbeta:  it says i have 256mb ram in here, but with the shared video ram, that brings it down to 190.
[12:37] <yugge> sudo update-grub worked wonderfully
[12:37] <finalbeta> yep
[12:37] <yugge> thanks :D
[12:37] <juggernaut1980> but that problem only came up with the livecd install, the text install was smooth.
[12:38] <juggernaut1980> and my system is faster in ubuntu than windows.
[12:38] <Aagni> hello all
[12:38] <juggernaut1980> at least it seems like it from a user's point of view.
[12:38] <_mason> fdoving by x10 i didnt really mean that much, imo the spacing i added wont be a problem on any system
[12:39] <FurryNemesis> anyone know where I untar gtk2 themes to?
[12:39] <fdoving> _mason: ok :)
[12:39] <juggernaut1980> i think my dpkg is messed up.  can anyone help me with this issue?
[12:39] <Aagni> anyone manage to get tv-out working with dapper?
[12:39] <Asc> Gasten: Da.  Try the clearlooks theme.  It may or may not affect speed in any way.
[12:40] <kzt> juggernaut1980, what do you see?
[12:40] <finalbeta> kzt, so the alternative install CD's boot you into a txt based installer?
[12:40] <kzt> that's right, finalbeta.
[12:40] <juggernaut1980> it gives me a crazy `MSDOS EOF (^Z)' error.
[12:41] <finalbeta> Ok, thxn for your help now I can help that dude :p
[12:41] <jamadagni> anyone knows how to get apt-move to work with universe and multiverse?
[12:41] <kzt> for dapper, you might also want to check the server CD
[12:41] <kzt> or the... wait (ill check it out)
[12:41] <jamadagni> i tried it with my local apt cahce but it left out a lot of packages which were from those two categories
[12:42] <shithead5789> hey guys I need a confirmation on a possible on gstreamer
[12:42] <shithead5789> hey guys I need a confirmation on a possible bug on gstreamer
[12:43] <shithead5789> Using the default drivers for the GPU and playing a video in totem the colors are displayed right. But when I install ATI's drivers (for my X1800XL) and I play a video in totem the colors are distorted. For example red becomes blue!!!! But if I play the video in xine (with ATI's drivers installed) the colors are fine. So I am guessing that this "problem" has something to do with gstreamer. But on the other hand why don't I have the same probl
[12:43] <shithead5789> Reply With Quote
[12:43] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  i posted the error here:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24488
[12:43] <sv452> who knows anything bout web cams and linux/ubuntu
[12:43] <Schalken> has anyone used movix before???
[12:43] <_mason> Now, Does anyone know of an application that can convert .mdf/.mds into iso format?
[12:43] <kzt> juggernaut1980, ok am checking it out
[12:46] <kzt> juggernaut1980, it is possible that a recent updating of the available packages made an error. try:
[12:46] <kzt> "sudo apt-get update"
[12:46] <jamadagni> hello can anyone help me?
[12:46] <jamadagni> i asked a q about apt-move
[12:47] <ballistix> hi all, i have a problem: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libsdl-image1.2_1.2.4-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[12:47] <ballistix>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libSDL_image-1.2.so.0', which is also in package sdl-image
[12:47] <ballistix>  ...help?
[12:47] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  ok hold on
[12:47] <Soelle> how do i add a repository?
[12:47] <malv> anyone know whats up with quinns xgl repositories?
[12:47] <kzt> juggernaut1980, ok
[12:47] <malv> and how I can install compiz now
[12:47] <doddy> can someone tell me if rythmbox should be able to play mp3's?
[12:48] <Soelle> it shouldnt
[12:48] <Schalken> ballistix: do you need the package sdl-image?
[12:48] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  now i have duplicate entries for sources.list
[12:48] <Soelle> u need to install codec packs
[12:48] <ballistix> Schalken: yes.
[12:48] <kzt> doddy., yes it can
[12:48] <doddy> ah ok - so i can get the codecs from their site?
[12:48] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  they are duplicate entries for the cdrom sources.list
[12:49] <kzt> juggernaut1980, hold on...
[12:49] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  ok
[12:49] <Schalken> ballistix: well what can you do, the two packages obviously conflict each other...
[12:49] <Soelle> how do i add a repository? for eksample the amarok repository so i can get 1.4.
[12:50] <Schalken> Soelle: is the amarok repository an apt repository?
[12:50] <llpamies> Witch package I need to install in EDGY to get the GLUT development files ?
[12:50] <ballistix> Schalken: aren't they the same thing?
[12:50] <Soelle> Schalken: yes it is
[12:50] <dylan_> Anybody know where I can get pre-made kernels?
[12:50] <Schalken> Soelle: do they provide an apt line?
[12:50] <Schalken> ballistix: dunno, are they?
[12:50] <kzt> juggernaut, you mean dpkg complains of duplicate entries? that would refer to the file /etc/apt/sources.list. you can check out the error more closely and look for that offending line. if you want, you can paste the error and i will help you through it.
[12:51] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  great!  hold on while i do that.
[12:51] <ballistix> i thought so
[12:51] <ballistix> how can i uninstall sdl_image?
[12:51] <Soelle> Schalken: well i dont know if they do - apt source is: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main
[12:51] <kzt> juggernaut1980, ill hold on
[12:52] <finalbeta> Would it not be advised that ubuntu displayed a message to the end user if the live CD doesn't have nearly enough memory to run and has no swap available? So the end user doesn't get stuck when loading X anyway?
[12:52] <Schalken> Soelle: go into System -> Admin -> Software properties, add, click 'custom' in the bottom left, type "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main" and click okay
[12:53] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  here ya go.......http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24494
[12:53] <Schalken> ballistix: if you're that brave you can use 'sudo apt-get remove sdl-image'
[12:53] <ballistix> lol ok
[12:53] <ballistix> thansk
[12:53] <kzt> ok... am checking it out
[12:53] <TheGateKeeper> anyone used ekiga & knows how to get it working?
[12:54] <[NikO] > hello
[12:55] <Schalken> hello :D
[12:55] <[NikO] > could someone know where i can find cgwd repository ?
[12:56] <doddy> can someone tell me which is the correct gstreamer to install in order to play mps on rythmbox - the website suggests gstreamer-ugly which is not an install option that I can see
[12:56] <kzt> juggernaut1980, you can open the file with "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list". if you are more comfortable using a GUI text editor, replace "nano" with "gedit"
[12:56] <Schalken> [NikO] : this site seems to know: http://ocaoimh.ie/2006/08/20/more-linux-eyecandy-cgwd-themes/
[12:56] <[NikO] > i take a look thanks
[12:56] <doddy> the others that are available are ASLA, ESD
[12:56] <Schalken> [NikO] : wait, i dont think that actually says where the repo is :S
[12:57] <ThomAnnatar> Hey guys little question.. when i search for wesnoth in Synaptic it sais version: 1.1+reverted+to+1.0.2  WHY? i dont want it to be reverted !
[12:57] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  i'll go with the GUI editor
[12:57] <kzt> doddy, have your checked this out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:57] <finalbeta> Would it not be advised that ubuntu displayed a message to the end user if the live CD doesn't have nearly enough memory to run and has no swap available? So the end user doesn't get stuck when loading X anyway?
[12:57] <[NikO] > i think they leave file in the original repository
[12:57] <Schalken> ThomAnnatar: it could be reverted because another package depends on the older version
[12:57] <[NikO] > like they say here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263274&highlight=cgwd
[12:57] <Schalken> ThomAnnatar: try to install the new one and see what complains
[12:58] <ThomAnnatar> Schalken How to NOT reverted?
[12:58] <frandavid100> hi! how can I mail and subscribe to the ubuntu-desktop list?
[12:58] <juggernaut1980> i have it open!
[12:58] <we2by> I have compiled a new plugin for gaim, but I don't see it in the plugin list. any help?
[12:58] <neildarlow> how do i deal with a corrupt file in /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives? specifically, x-www-browser
[12:58] <Schalken> frandavid100: lists.ubuntu.com
[12:58] <kzt> ok juggernaut1980. now one you have opened the file, try to look for the duplicated line referring to the cdrom repository
[12:58] <ThomAnnatar> I want to have the newest version :'(
[12:59] <doddy> thanks NikO that looks exactly the link I am looking for - i will go read now thanks again!
[12:59] <juggernaut1980> i'm pretty sure it's right near the top.
[12:59] <frandavid100> IOU Schalken ;)
[12:59] <Schalken> frandavid100: :|
[12:59] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  there are two at the top that are the same.
[12:59] <kzt> that's right, near the top. now, put a "#" at the start of the line of one of the duplicate entries.
[12:59] <chillmode> hi.. is there some comand to start my eht1 auto when i boot ubuntu? its never on then i boot... i always need to go in to network tools and turn it on
[12:59] <[NikO] > doody, there is no repository actually :/
[12:59] <gustavnilsson> so, now I know the start and end sectors of my partition, how to read it with dd?
[01:00] <Schalken> [NikO] : can you download the deb at least?
[01:00] <[NikO] > where ?
[01:00] <ThomAnnatar> Schalken: how to unrevert it?
[01:00] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  just one and the beginning of the first line for the entry?
[01:00] <Schalken> [NikO] : thought you knew :-/
[01:00] <juggernaut1980> **at
[01:01] <kzt> yes, juggernaut1980, a "#" at the start of the line of one of the entries only
[01:01] <juggernaut1980> do i need to comment out the second line of that enrty?
[01:01] <juggernaut1980> there are two entries with two lines each.
[01:02] <kzt> wait a while, let me check again your paste
[01:02] <juggernaut1980> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06.1 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060807.1)] / dapper main restricted
[01:02] <kzt> can't see that in your paste, but it'll be safe to comment out that line too.
[01:02] <juggernaut1980> ok, brb
[01:02] <Davo_Dinkum> Hi all.
[01:03] <juggernaut1980> it put the second # at the end of the first line, so i'll assume it's just a wordwrap.
[01:03] <ThomAnnatar> aint there a list of unofficial repository's for ubuntu dapper?
[01:03] <kzt> chillmode, you might want to explore the file "/etc/network/interfaces"
[01:03] <Davo_Dinkum> Is there a guide for ATI cards for XGL? I looked at this one, but it says NVIDIA: http://knowledge76.com/index.php/XGL/Compiz_Nvidia_32bit#Introduction
[01:04] <kzt> ok juggernaut, should have been a wordwrap
[01:04] <[NikO] > Davo_Dinkum: you have the cgwd installed ?
[01:04] <kzt> try to disable wordwrap
[01:04] <kzt> edit->preferences
[01:04] <Davo_Dinkum> NikO: What's that?
[01:04] <Arcad3> someone wants cedega?
[01:04] <doddy> NikO - what do you mean by no repository for them? you mean the ones required i.e. gstreamer-ugly is not downloadable?
[01:04] <juggernaut1980> word up.  one line.
[01:04] <Schalken> Davo_Dinkum: a themer for compiz
[01:05] <Davo_Dinkum> Ah ok.
[01:05] <doddy> sorry for the dumb question but just started with linux yesterday :-)
[01:05] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  disabled text wrap, it's all one line.
[01:05] <kzt> juggernaut, so you have "wrap" disabled?
[01:05] <kzt> ok
[01:05] <Davo_Dinkum> I haven't installed anything yet, I was hoping for a step-by-step guide to the whole process.
[01:05] <kzt> you can now save the file, go to a terminal and do again: "sudo apt-get update"
[01:05] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  ok brb
[01:05] <matt_> i'd like to get XGL and Compiz running on my AMD64 machine (running Dapper). Can you do this using Synapic / apt-get? I have found a good tutorial on the forums (from Feb 2006) but would like to now if this is now outdated.
[01:06] <Schalken> !universe
[01:06] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:06] <Schalken> hmmm
[01:06] <juggernaut1980> ktz:  ok, that didn't return any errors
[01:06] <Steil> Is there an easy way to clear the "Open Location" history in totem?
[01:07] <juggernaut1980> thanksa mucho ktz!!  XD
[01:07] <kzt> that's great. now,
[01:07] <Schalken> Steil: remember something that is in there, and then do a search through your home directory for a file containing it
[01:07] <Schalken> Steil: empty the file
[01:07] <kzt> i think you will be able to use dpkg or apt-get w/o errors
[01:07] <juggernaut1980> i'll need you to stick around for a min tho, so i can show you the other error if it comes up.
[01:07] <kzt> ok, will be here
[01:08] <Steil> Schalken: I said easy
[01:08] <Steil> thanks though
[01:08] <voraistos> hey guys, how to unmount /dev/hda5 ? cant remember the command :(
[01:08] <gr8wilco> umount
[01:08] <gr8wilco> :P
[01:09] <voraistos> nope
[01:09] <gr8wilco> nope?
[01:09] <Schalken> Steil: my computer is searching for that file right now for you....
[01:09] <kzt> voristors, try to find out where hda5 is mounted with "mount|grep hda5"
[01:09] <voraistos> tried that already. oh! typo mistake :P
[01:09] <Gasten> voraistos: what does it say?
[01:09] <Steil> thanks :)
[01:10] <Schalken> Steil: if only my home directory wasnt so huge :(
[01:10] <Gasten> :)
[01:10] <kzt> then unmount it with "sudo umount /mnt/point" where "/mnt/point" refers to the drectory where /dev/hda5 was mounted
[01:10] <gerhard> hi
[01:10] <gerhard> what was the site which builds you vmx files
[01:10] <gerhard> ?
[01:10] <gerhard> i mean for win xp or something
[01:10] <codecaine> I know ubuntu auto configure partitons for u in grub but if you were doing mainly how do you find the boot point?
[01:11] <theLife> hey hey
[01:11] <codecaine> like (hd0,0)
[01:11] <theLife> any way to watch free TV through Dapper?
[01:11] <juggernaut1980> ktz:  this is what i get now:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24495
[01:11] <kzt> juggernaut1980, ok
[01:11] <Matix> i have penium on 233mhz and 196mb RAM and i want to instal ubuntu 6.06 but it is bloking on "mount rooting sistem files" i neet to make linux xet2 partition for ubuntu?
[01:12] <tarvid> getting lots of errors in Firefox after recent dapper update
[01:12] <Rookie> How come it writes PCI bus when i have AGP bus ?
[01:13] <Rookie> !nvidia
[01:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:13] <theLife> tarvid: lol
[01:13] <Schalken> Steil: got it!
[01:13] <codecaine> lol
[01:14] <theLife> codecaine: ROFL
[01:14] <Steil> Perfect, which file was it?
[01:14] <codecaine> I use swiftfox
[01:14] <codecaine> :P
[01:14] <codecaine> faster
[01:14] <theLife> codecaine: LOL
[01:14] <codecaine> ubuntu is bloated
[01:14] <theLife> codecaine: define bloated
[01:14] <kzt> juggernaut, have you recently added a repository? seems it is borking the "available" file
[01:14] <Schalken> Steil: remove this file: ~//.gconf/apps/gnome-settings/totem/%gconf.xml
[01:14] <codecaine> more stuff configured in it then needed
[01:14] <Schalken> Steil: i mean this file: ~/.gconf/apps/gnome-settings/totem/%gconf.xml
[01:15] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  i added the canonical repository.  should i remove it
[01:15] <elkbuntu> codecaine, ootb usability often does result in bloat, yes
[01:15] <theLife> codecaine: so why dont you create a better distro instead of complaining?
[01:15] <juggernaut1980> the one on the website walkthrough
[01:15] <Matix> i have penium on 233mhz and 196mb RAM and i want to instal ubuntu 6.06 but it is bloking on "mount rooting sistem files" i neet to make linux ext2 and linux swaap partition for ubuntu?
[01:15] <Steil> thanks Schalken :)
[01:15] <theLife> codecaine: if Ubuntu is so bad, then show us what a distro should be like!  well?
[01:16] <codecaine> im not complaining
[01:16] <theLife> codecaine: create a better distro instead of complaining
[01:16] <Schalken> Steil: did it work? they should really make a gui for it.
[01:16] <theLife> codecaine: you complain more than my cat
[01:16] <kzt> before doing that, you might want to try to opening the available file, i.e. "sudo nano /var/lib/dpkg/available", save it in order to remove the "MSDOS EOF" character
[01:16] <codecaine> and its not the distro its the package binary
[01:16] <codecaine> lol
[01:16] <kzt> then try to install gkrellm again
[01:16] <elkbuntu> theLife, calm down
[01:16] <theLife> elkbuntu: define calm
[01:16] <juggernaut1980> ok i'll try that!  :)  brb
[01:16] <theLife> codecaine: grow up
[01:16] <Overand> take the fighting to emacs
[01:16] <frying_fish> anyone know how to undo a dpkg-divert?
[01:16] <kzt> or you might want to use gedit
[01:16] <Overand> keep the conversation in here
[01:17] <elkbuntu> theLife, i'd rather define troll for both you and codecaine. you guys are wasting valueable scrolling
[01:17] <frying_fish> found it
[01:17] <Davo_Dinkum> Bye.
[01:17] <progek> Can anyone answer a question on ircd?
[01:17] <theLife> elkbuntu: what on earth makes you think that we value anything you say?
[01:17] <Schalken> has anyone used movix before?
[01:17] <nickspoon> get a room you lot :P
[01:17] <theLife> elkbuntu: you are nothing more than a arrogant ignorant fool! I cant for the life of me imagine what possess you to think we care for anything you say!  LOL
[01:18] <Matix> i have pentium on 233mhz and 196mb RAM and i want to instal ubuntu 6.06 but it is bloking on "mount rooting sistem files" i neet to make linux ext2 and linux swaap partition for ubuntu?
[01:18] <Overand> !ops thelife
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops thelife - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:18] <theLife> elkbuntu: there is nothing you can say that carried any credibility or value for me
[01:18] <Overand> oh, that's a #debian thing.  =] 
[01:18] <theLife> !ops Overand
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops Overand - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:18] <elkbuntu> theLife, you could start by looking at my hostmask
[01:18] <Schalken> !ops
[01:18] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[01:18] <theLife> elkbuntu: ok let me look ;)
[01:19] <Schalken> what the
[01:19] <Hobbsee> Schalken: ?
[01:19] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, read up, dear
[01:19] <Overand> Hobbsee: we've got some trolling
[01:19] <theLife> elkbuntu: are you female?
[01:19] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  gedit could not open the file, but i have it open in nano, and it's very confusing.  how do i edit, and remove the problem?
[01:19] <codecaine> both are you are are not mature
[01:19] <Schalken> Hobbsee: what does !ops do?
[01:19] <elkbuntu> theLife, yes, so is hobbsee
[01:19] <codecaine> of
[01:19] <elkbuntu> theLife, you might want to be carful what you say after this
[01:19] <theLife> elkbuntu: if you are female, then I apoligise!  sorry
[01:19] <Matix> vorbeste careva romana de aci plz un privat
[01:19] <Overand> oh jeez
[01:20] <theLife> elkbuntu: I am always nice to females ;)
[01:20] <Hobbsee> Schalken: it pings the ops, so we can deal with whatever is happening
[01:20] <Overand> yeah- sexism will help.
[01:20] <theLife> elkbuntu: now that I know you are female, ill be very nice to you :)
[01:20] <theLife> Overand: you bet :)
[01:20] <Schalken> Hobbsee: whoops :-[
[01:20] <Schalken> :p
[01:20] <lastnode_> when is edgy being released again?
[01:20] <Overand> Schalken: i was trying to trigger them anyway, i was just using the #debian bot's synta
[01:20] <Overand> x
[01:21] <progek> I set up an irc server but I can only connect within my network. I am port forwarding in my router but cannot access outside. any ideas? would an ISP block 6667?
[01:21] <Schalken> Overand: okay :D
[01:21] <Overand> progek: do other ports work, like 80?
[01:21] <Hobbsee> Overand: and why did you need an op?
[01:21] <kzt> what does gedit say? anyway, if you have opened/saved it in nano, i guess that would be enough. trying instaling again. if the error persists, do paste the first few lines of your available file
[01:21] <progek> nope, I had to change 80 to something else to get apache to work
[01:21] <Overand> Hobbsee: theLife was trolling for a bit
[01:21] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, the troublemaker has left
[01:21] <Hobbsee> Overand: so i see, he's just left
[01:21] <Overand> yeah
[01:22] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  how do i save in nano?
[01:22] <Schalken> lastnode_: some time october i beleive
[01:22] <lastnode_> thanks Schalken
[01:22] <progek> could I also change the port for irc?
[01:22] <Hobbsee> juggernaut1980: ctrl+x
[01:22] <Overand> progek: yes-
[01:22] <kzt> juggernaut1980, "Ctrl-o", as in the letter "o"
[01:22] <Arcad3> how can i write a file on a Windows partition(EX:hdc2 from ubuntu)?
[01:22] <Overand> progek: make sure the ircD isn't set to only allow connections from your subnet though
[01:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Dont look at me.. I just got here  ... :)
[01:22] <Schalken> has anyone used movix before?
[01:22] <kzt> then "ctrl-x" to exit
[01:22] <Overand> Arcad3: is the windows partition NTFS or FAT32?
[01:23] <Arcad3> NTFS
[01:23] <Overand> Most of the NTFS-write solutions require some work, as far as i know
[01:23] <progek> overand, thanks. how would I go about seeing if it only allows those connections? Would that be inside it's conf file and if so do you know what it would say?
[01:23] <codecaine> Depends on what windows you use Overand
[01:23] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  same error code.  i'll pastebin the first few lines
[01:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs-3g
[01:23] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[01:23] <kzt> ok.
[01:24] <ph8> hey guys, how do you become and ubuntu 'member' - is that for developers?
[01:24] <Arcad3> thanks
[01:24] <Overand> Arcad3: heed the warnings- it *is* possible that you can corrupt data
[01:24] <Overand> or otherwise damage the ntfs partition
[01:24] <Overand> though i think ntfs-3g is pretttttttty decent
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=23836054&forum_id=2697
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Overand: I am starting to change my mine on 3g
[01:25] <troughton> i have got a compaq presario v6000 and am having nothing but trubble installing it can anyone help
[01:25] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24496
[01:25] <kzt> ok
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: Sure, how mych ram
[01:25] <abaldwin> hello
[01:26] <troughton> its an amd 64 x2 1gig ram
[01:26] <abaldwin> can anyone tell me what I have to do to get US International keyboard layout?  It is not in the system settings offerings
[01:26] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  it didn't paste it as is.  i'm going to try to open it in gedit again
[01:26] <kzt> ok.
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: And the trouble
[01:27] <salutem333> Gente, como fao pra descompactar os pacotes baixados em linux?
[01:27] <abaldwin> I''m just trying out Kubu on the liveCD, but seriously considering a migration fro FC, but I can''t work without US International keyboard layout (I''m a translator)
[01:27] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: BRB, gotta get my first cup of coffee in me...
[01:28] <Max_Might> can someone help me with apache server, i cant upload files .... :(
[01:28] <AlexC_> Hey
[01:28] <abaldwin> qual typo de pacote, Salutem?
[01:28] <frying_fish> anyone else just get the backported xchat 2.6.6 to dapper? and found tha the "open link in browser" now opens links in "links" instead of whatever you had set previous?
[01:28] <abaldwin> e um tar, .gz, .zip?
[01:28] <frying_fish> abaldwin: you should be able to get US international keyboard layout, its an xorg option.... (surely)
[01:29] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  gedit said:  "Could not open the file /var/lib/dpkg/available using the Unicode (UTF-8) character coding."
[01:29] <AlexC_> Is there a free ( price ) version of SLED 10.1 ?
[01:29] <abaldwin> yeah, but i don''t find it in the system settings offerings as I did with fedora
[01:29] <salutem333> tar.bz, rpm...  sei dar os comandos no terminal... s novo em linux
[01:29] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: Does the livecd get you to a desktop
[01:29] <bXi> does one of you know how to fix undefined reference to `uuid_unparse'
[01:30] <kzt> juggernaut1980, might need to settle with nano for a while
[01:30] <abaldwin> salutem, qual tipo de pacote ta tentando de abrir?
[01:30] <troughton> the mouse is irratic doing its own thing clicking buttons ect then just stops and i have no access to the computer there is no sound i have read the forums and web it seems everyone who has one has the same problem Jack_Sparrow
[01:30] <frying_fish> abaldwin: doesn't mean you can't do it manually, so just do it in xorg.
[01:30] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  that's what i was thinking
[01:30] <troughton> no i have to put in acpi=off
[01:30] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: Everyone with your specifc computer...
[01:30] <abaldwin> well, then, how would I go about that?  do I need to do something to Xorg.cong or something?
[01:30] <kzt> once opened in nano, select the text using your mouse (might need to press shift while selecting)
[01:30] <frying_fish> and abaldwin in system -> preferences-> keyboard, you could add it there...
[01:30] <troughton> yes every one with the same make of computer
[01:31] <kzt> then once selected, go to pastebin and "middle click" on the text area to "paste" the text
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> but adding acpi=off fixes it?
[01:31] <unfknblvbl> okay question, whats next after: nubuntu kubuntu edubuntu fluxbuntu xubuntu ?
[01:31] <abaldwin> but it isn't offerd in system-setting-keyboard
[01:31] <frying_fish> abaldwin: look at xorg.conf, for the keyboard stuff and have us and as an option, intl
[01:31] <salutem333> tar.bz - lmule
[01:31] <troughton> only gets you into the live cd
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: At least the ouse problem
[01:31] <frying_fish> abaldwin: it is in system->preferences->keyboard
[01:31] <frying_fish> look again!
[01:31] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  middle click?  i have a laptop.
[01:31] <tombs> salutem333: pq vc nao entra no ubuntu-br?
[01:31] <frying_fish> system->preferences->keyboard   (then click the layout tab and add new and find the US one you want)
[01:31] <salutem333> j tentei... guia foca,...
[01:31] <kzt> try pressing left and right simultaneously (to emulate a middle click)
[01:32] <salutem333>  t rolando
[01:32] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: We can add acpi=off to the grub menu...
[01:32] <Paddy_EIRE> nice to see that the flash-plugin had been fixed
[01:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !it
[01:32] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Morning Paddy_EIRE
[01:32] <Paddy_EIRE> mourning
[01:32] <abaldwin> ok, I am not finding preferences under the system menu
[01:32] <tombs> Jack_Sparrow: thanx man, but thats portuguese :)
[01:33] <troughton> once installed i can get in but the mouse is my worst problem cause it makes the system unusable
[01:33] <frying_fish> abaldwin: gnome? or KDE?
[01:33] <abaldwin> under system settings, yes, and avarious layouts are offered, mas, not what I need, US Intl.
[01:33] <abaldwin> kubuntu, therefore KDE
[01:33] <epsi> hello, I have encountered a very strange network bug and cannot find answers from google
[01:33] <frying_fish> ahh, well in that case, it would be somewhere different, but you can still do it manually
[01:33] <abaldwin> but I always used KDE in fedora, and had US Intl keyboard available
[01:33] <kzt> did you get that juggernaut? left and right click simultaneously to emulate a middle click
[01:33] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: is it a whole handling to get the media keys working through amarok?
[01:33] <frying_fish> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:33] <abaldwin> I''m not even finding portuguese support in here.
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: First please make a copy of your grub menu   sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst ~/menu.lst.backup
[01:34] <frying_fish> and then when it gets to the stuff about keyboard choose us and the option intl
[01:34] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24498  .....but when it posts it, numbers come up instead of the characters i copied.
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: Second open a copy of your grub menu   gedit  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:34] <frying_fish> abaldwin: its probably that kubuntu hasn't installed all the options by default.
[01:34] <kzt> is that so.... wait..
[01:34] <ThomAnnatar> Hey guys little question.. when i search for wesnoth in Synaptic it sais version: 1.1+reverted+to+1.0.2  WHY? i dont want it to be reverted !
[01:34] <abaldwin> oh, I found portuguese
[01:34] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  i did as instructed, it simulated the "middle click"
[01:34] <epsi> the problem is that if for example download something, there seems to be someking of buggy limit, and after that "download limit" all painfully slow and I get "Rx ERROR!!!"
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: Copy and paste a copy to the pastebin linked below
[01:34] <abaldwin> so, is ther a way to apt-get it or something?
[01:34] <epsi> somekind
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste
[01:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:35] <Tomcat_> ThomAnnatar: Problem with dependencies, didn't compile, whatever... might be hundreds of reasons. :)
[01:35] <Tomcat_> ThomAnnatar: Compile it yourself then, I guess. :\
[01:35] <kzt> saw it...
[01:35] <kzt> can't make much from it
[01:35] <frying_fish> abaldwin: probably, but if you just want to set it in xorg, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will take you through a guide to set us intenational
[01:35] <ThomAnnatar> Tomcat_  Oh noo i promised myself to not compile annything this time :P
[01:35] <abaldwin> eu sei que s~ao brasileiros usando kubuntu, entao, tem que ter apuyo pelo portugues, ne
[01:35] <juggernaut1980> yeah, me neither.  is there any way to remove dpkg and then reinstall it?>
[01:36] <troughton> ok give me some time will have to boot up and i need a coffee too
[01:36] <kzt> if i were you, i'd remove the most recently added repository
[01:36] <ThomAnnatar> Tomcat_ is there a way to unrevert it?
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: np
[01:36] <epsi> and after it gets slow, I can get it fast again by /sbin/ifdown eth0 and ifup eth0 ...
[01:36] <abaldwin> oh, ok...I ''ve been on fedora so long, using yum (which keeps breaking stuff, which is why Im here) that I've not had to sudo or use apt in forever
[01:36] <kzt> "canonical" as you said
[01:36] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  ok i'll do that.  brb
[01:36] <abaldwin> in fedora, I got root
[01:36] <epsi> seems that it is a bug in ethernet driver or something like that?
[01:36] <ThomAnnatar> abaldwin type sudo su and ur root :P
[01:36] <kzt> then redo "sudo apt-get update" and check again if any error will come up when installing something
[01:37] <bXi> does one of you know how to fix: undefined reference to `uuid_unparse' ?
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> bXi: Could you define the context of the error
[01:38] <rainbow1> hi everyone, does anyone know whether the MSI K9NGM motherboard works with dapper?
[01:38] <bXi> Jack_Sparrow: sure
[01:38] <bXi> i'm trying to get mysql-workshop to work
[01:38] <bXi> and i'm following this http://www.monkeyhelper.com/2006/07/mysql_workbench_and_ubuntu_dap.html
[01:38] <Jack_Sparrow> rainbow1: I have 2 MSI boards running it, not sure what models though..
[01:39] <bXi> it goes wrong while compiling mysql-gui-common
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> bXi: I will look but I am not the guy for this problem...
[01:39] <arnducky> bXi there's yer problim right thar -- MySQL   switch to PostGresQL -- heh
[01:39] <juggernaut1980> did it, same error.
[01:39] <rainbow1> Jack_Sparrow: thanks!  Are they 64bit?
[01:39] <juggernaut1980> it says
[01:39] <epsi> my problem is with the Asus a6ja laptop, has anyone here encountered that problem?
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> 32
[01:40] <bXi> arnducky: sure if you will fix all my stuff thats using mysql atm
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: MOuse?
[01:40] <juggernaut1980> there's a plus sign in the beginning of the file, should i delete that and save the file?
[01:40] <arnducky> bXi -- see waht I mean -- it all needs to be fixed!  ;-)
[01:40] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: Odd network bug, After some downloading I get RX ERRORS and systems gets really slow and network fails
[01:40] <kzt> are you referring to the "/etc/apt/sources.list" file?
[01:41] <bXi> Jack_Sparrow: if it helps i'm running 64bit here
[01:41] <ThomAnnatar> Hey guys could i use an edgy repository just for wesnoth? :P
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: sounds like a gateway config setting, I assume you have a router.?
[01:41] <juggernaut1980> no, i'm referring to the /var/lib/dpkg/available file
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> bXi:No errors on your apt-gets?
[01:41] <bXi> nope
[01:41] <sv452> i need to sync my apt/archives file between home and work - since i dl all my stuff @ work i need to be able to have a list of what i have @ home and run that against what i have 2 work and then get to copy only the ones that is not on list from home - anybody have any idea?
[01:42] <ThomAnnatar> Guys could i use an edgy repository for wesnoth?
[01:42] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: I have this adsl-box/hub and it is connected by ethcable
[01:42] <rainbow1> Has anyone had an ASRock Alive NF4G-DVI working with dapper?
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> bXi: SOmeone will be along that can help with that..
[01:42] <kzt> i'm sorry i didn't make myself clear earlier. i suggested earlier to remove the "canonical" repository from the "/etc/apt/source.list" file by commenting it out, i.e. adding a "#" at the start of the line that refers to that
[01:42] <Jan_111> I lost my whole /usr-directory, but nothing else. Can I repair this with apt, oder dpkg oder something else?
[01:43] <kzt> as earlier, type in "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[01:43] <rainbow1> I've got a choice of motherboards and no clue which would be best
[01:43] <juggernaut1980> ok, i'll do that then instead
[01:43] <rainbow1> ASRock or MSI? (both 64-bit)
[01:43] <troughton> Jack_Sparrow this will take a few mins as i had suse on as it is the only linux i have got that will work with the sound but i dont like suse so am reinstalling now
[01:43] <abaldwin> I just ran that whol xserver-xorg config, but still not gettin us intl keyboard layout
[01:43] <bXi> Jack_Sparrow: i hope so :)
[01:44] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  now it can't find gkrellm
[01:44] <kzt> but no errors>
[01:44] <kzt> >
[01:44] <kzt> ?
[01:45] <juggernaut1980> can you suggest another package to try?  yes, no errors....so far!  ;)
[01:45] <Lewis_> hi
[01:45] <kzt> so that would indicate that the canonical repository is the culprit
[01:45] <juggernaut1980> hmm!  great!
[01:45] <Lewis_> Does Ubuntu accept .exe files? If not, what does it accept?
[01:45] <nickspoon> Linux binaries.
[01:45] <nickspoon> or packages.
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: I am bumbed that I didnt link the solution to that just 2 days ago..  He would lose internet after an hour or so..
[01:46] <kzt> meaning its packages file has some non-standard character
[01:46] <kzt> anyway....
[01:46] <Lewis_> Ok, where do I get them from? If you can that is...
[01:46] <kzt> let me try the canonical repository and see whether i will get the same error
[01:46] <nickspoon> Lewis_: you run Synaptic, search for the kind of thing you want and download the package.
[01:46] <juggernaut1980> oooohhhh!!  sahweet.  ok, i'll wait for you.
[01:46] <kzt> brb
[01:46] <ThomAnnatar> oh sweet
[01:46] <drumline> Synaptic = nice
[01:46] <Lewis_> Is Synaptic a program already on the Ubuntu System?
[01:46] <sv452> does anybody have any idea on my question ?
[01:47] <bXi> Synaptic is standard on ubuntu but it isnt on kubuntu
[01:47] <nickspoon> Lewis_: yes, under System->Administration.
[01:47] <bXi> its the first thing i apt-get tho
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi:let me spend a minute and see if I can find it... You still here.?
[01:47] <Lewis_> Ok, thank you
[01:47] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: well seems like same problem, The limit seems to be around 1-2MB so light surfing it would maybe take about an hour when the problem occurs
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: system.admin.networking.dns what do you show
[01:48] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: yes, only that the cpu usage is very high after that and top doesn't show anything
[01:48] <gr8wilco> omg.. we have pirate here...
[01:48] <larryone> I'm tryiong to work out how much RAM my PIII server will take... will dmesg tell me the type of RAM the machine can use???
[01:48] <gr8wilco> :P
[01:48] <gr8wilco> +a
[01:49] <Hoxzer> Aargh can somebody inform me about the reason of gdm not loading propelly after uninstalling jackd
[01:49] <larryone> or is there some other way of finding out>
[01:49] <voraistos> isnt there ksynaptic for kubuntu ?
[01:49] <larryone> ?
[01:49] <drumline> larryone, the type?
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: Go to system     .admin      .networking.    click on    dns tab      what do you show
[01:49] <larryone> as in speed or whatever
[01:49] <Jan_111> I lost my whole /usr-directory, but nothing else. Can I repair this with apt, oder dpkg oder something else?
[01:49] <drumline> larryone, PC100, i think..    SDRAM
[01:49] <Lewis_> How do I install Ubuntu on one of my desktop pc's to make it run as a server? I tried this earlier and it completed, but when it booted, it was a terminal type thing only...black screen...nothing else
[01:49] <voraistos> yes
[01:49] <larryone> do all Pentium III machines take PC100????
[01:49] <voraistos> thats a server
[01:50] <kzt> i just added the canonical repository, updated and tried to install gkrellm. everything went fine. i removed the canonical repository and updated, still no errors. might have something to do with your language settings where it is encountering an error with a non-standard character.
[01:50] <drumline> larryone, I think some may do 133, but not faster than that.
[01:50] <larryone> or does it depend on the processor?
[01:50] <kzt> anyway, if what you want is install gkrellm, why would you want to add the canonical repository
[01:50] <larryone> ok
[01:50] <nickspoon> Lewis_: servers don't need GUIs.
[01:50] <larryone> well this is a dual PIII 1GHZ box
[01:50] <voraistos> waste of ram
[01:50] <larryone> voraistos, ???
[01:50] <Lewis_> I see, i'm really curious on how do run my desktop as a server. Any information?
[01:50] <voraistos> nope ;)
[01:50] <kzt> i think you just need to enable the "universe" repository
[01:50] <frying_fish> Lewis_: that's what the "server" version is.
[01:51] <drumline> larryone, don't really worry about it actually...  just make sure your RAM chips are compatible...  some 133's wont work with other 100's...  it's a pain sometimes.
[01:51] <frying_fish> as it doesn't install "X11"
[01:51] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: 2 dns servers and one  search domain
[01:51] <drumline> Lewis, use the desktop version of ubuntu.
[01:51] <larryone> aah
[01:51] <frying_fish> so you only have command line access, however you can run server programs in the desktop version, install the desktop one, then any servers you want to run just install them
[01:51] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: need specific addresses?
[01:51] <kzt> juggernaut, you still there?
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: write down the one search domain then delete it for now...
[01:51] <drumline> larryone, but use SDRAM in PIII's
[01:51] <frying_fish> and from where you are to get the desktop version just: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:51] <Lewis_> ty
[01:52] <arnducky> Lewis, do you mean you want to serve your desktop to other hosts/users ?
[01:52] <arnducky> Try tight vnc then
[01:52] <Merlin840> Okay, ive got a little problem here. I have ubuntu PPC on my Mac Mini, but i cant seem to re-install OSX on it..
[01:52] <larryone> drumline, the machine has 1BG RAM, I was trying to figure out if that's the maximum it can take... only 4 RAM slots on the motherboard
[01:52] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  i want gkrellm, but i also want to install codecs for vid formats, and i'd like to watch dvd's on my box.
[01:52] <arnducky> or, um there's an integrated version in Dapper now
[01:52] <kzt> what does canonical provide?
[01:52] <drumline> larryone, that's a motherboard spec issue.  I'd suggest checking the manufacturer website.
[01:52] <Theimon> good afternoon peeps
[01:52] <Lewis_> I want to host some of my websites from my desktop pc, but i have no idea on how to do this. I'm paying about 80 per month on server-rental and I just want my own on my desktop, but don't have the slightest idea on how to.
[01:52] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: ok, deleted
[01:52] <juggernaut1980> kzt:  i was going through a walkthrough on the ubuntu site, and it had that as an example for adding a repository.
[01:53] <juggernaut1980> i don't know what it provides, i was sort of testing.
[01:53] <drumline> larryone, but if you have the chips already, plug em in and try it...
[01:53] <frying_fish> Lewis_: ok, well install apache, once you have ubuntu-desktop installed
[01:53] <arnducky> juggernaut1980, what's wrogn with xine-ui or amarok-xine or even (ewww) mplayer?
[01:53] <larryone> drumline, it's a dell, trying to get information out of that website is like trying to draw blood from a turnip
[01:53] <frying_fish> Lewis_: then once you have done that you will need to google for some information.
[01:53] <Lewis_> Ok, ubuntu desktop is just installing the packages now
[01:53] <kzt> afaik, canonical provides only opera
[01:53] <Lewis_> Ok
[01:53] <juggernaut1980> mplayer won't install due to a conflict with an already installed program
[01:53] <frying_fish> juggernaut1980: why worry with all these codecs, just install vlc
[01:53] <drumline> larryone, google?  :)
[01:53] <sv452> does anyone have some scripting knowledge ?
[01:53] <kzt> at any rate you might want to check the "RestrictedFormats" entry at wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:53] <arnducky> Lewis_, start reading up on apache then
[01:53] <Lewis_> So in google, i just search "Installing Server on Ubuntu System"?
[01:54] <larryone> drumline, good point =0)
[01:54] <drumline> larryone, anyway..  plug em in and try it! :)
[01:54] <Theimon> could someone help me out with a serious gnome problem?
[01:54] <frying_fish> Lewis_: no, search for how to set up apache
[01:54] <juggernaut1980> frying_fish:  now i have an error when i use synaptic or sudo apt-get.
[01:54] <Lewis_> Ok
[01:54] <frying_fish> and stick ubuntu on it if you want.
[01:54] <frying_fish> juggernaut1980: in that case, do sudo apt-get install -f
[01:54] <frying_fish> and see if it fixes it.
[01:54] <larryone> drumline, dont have a big enough budget for the project to buy RAM just to try it
[01:54] <juggernaut1980> i'll try that!  :)
[01:54] <arnducky> Lewis: sudo apt-get update && apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: Im reading through my nores, but I did find the answer in the ubuntu system... and it involved setting the gateway address in a config file
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> notes
[01:55] <frying_fish> arnducky: he's already install the ubuntu-desktop
[01:55] <Merlin840> anyone using PPC ?
[01:55] <kzt> for your info, juggernaut1980, check this out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats... ok need to go now
[01:55] <drumline> larryone, ahh.. thought you had it already...  what kind of server is this anyway?
[01:55] <arnducky> frying_fish, welll, they co-exist fine
[01:55] <juggernaut1980> thanks for your help kzt!  :)
[01:55] <larryone> DELL PowerEdge 4300
[01:55] <xvxvx> hey, what gnome stuff should i load in .xinitrc when running openbox (im new to it) for automount and nm-applet (for wireless) and other handy "stuff"?
[01:55] <kzt> no problem.
[01:55] <drumline> Has anyone checked out SystemRescueCD?
[01:55] <juggernaut1980> frying_fish:  can you suggest a harmless package i can try to install as a test?
[01:55] <frying_fish> arnducky: indeed, but why install kde if he is already installing gnome
[01:56] <Lewis_> Could this possibly the right information: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Apache_HTTP_Server_for_HTTP_.28Web.29_Server_service ?
[01:56] <frying_fish> and the real thing he wants is to get some web stuff up, so will need apache and stuff.
[01:56] <arnducky> didn't know -- was responding to jhios 'google' question
[01:56] <juggernaut1980> frying_fish:  i ran sudo apt-get install -f and it did not return an error.
[01:56] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: ok, now the dns is removed. And by the way, I get those addresses via dhcp
[01:56] <frying_fish> juggernaut1980: ok, well try and install most
[01:56] <arnducky> Lewis very good start
[01:56] <drumline> larryone, db server?
[01:56] <frying_fish> should be small
[01:56] <Theimon> I accidentally deleted /usr/share/gnome, any suggestions on how to repair this?
[01:56] <larryone> drumline, testing NX server
[01:57] <drumline> larryone, NX?
[01:57] <larryone> remote desktops rock
[01:57] <sv452> who knows how to sync synaptic packages between two pc's ??
[01:57] <nickspoon> you accidentally deleted /usr/share/gnome? how?...
[01:57] <juggernaut1980> i'll try that.
[01:57] <larryone> X/ssh
[01:57] <drumline> ahh...  gotcha
[01:57] <juggernaut1980> couldn't find package ootput
[01:57] <Theimon> i wasnt paying attention when fiddling around with something else
[01:57] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: ok, so what should I do with config files?
[01:57] <Lewis_> I have no idea on the 'How to add extra repositories' business
[01:57] <Theimon> sometimes I hate that tab-key ;)
[01:57] <ootput> juggernaut1980: which one?
[01:57] <drumline> I'd get something beefier for running those apps...
[01:57] <juggernaut1980> ah!  hahaha, i read that wrong!!
[01:57] <juggernaut1980> hahaha
[01:57] <juggernaut1980> i'm SOOO tired!
[01:57] <Jan_111> I lost my whole /usr-directory, but nothing else. Can I repair this with apt, oder dpkg oder something else?
[01:58] <arnducky> sv452, simple -- look at the File menu in Synaptic
[01:58] <arnducky> then tell us what you see
[01:58] <drumline> larryone, barebones systems with 8x the beef of that PIII can be had for sub $200
[01:58] <silent_scream> 3erete an paizei to quicktime me wine
[01:58] <silent_scream> ?
[01:58] <larryone> drumline, the only beafier thing we have a is a SPARC Solaris, and installing FreeNX on Solaris is more tricky
[01:58] <Theimon> nickspoon: i'm able to login but after that the screen stays black.any suggestions?
[01:58] <larryone> so we test on out PIII ubuntu server
[01:58] <nickspoon> umm...
[01:59] <larryone> drumline, not in Ireland =0)
[01:59] <lawine> Jan_111: the entire /usr?
[01:59] <nickspoon> Theimon: press ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:59] <Jan_111> yes
[01:59] <abaldwin> I thik I got it
[01:59] <drumline> larryone, good point...
[01:59] <Jan_111> it was on a separate partition
[01:59] <lawine> Jan_111: both apt-get and dpkg are in that dir...
[01:59] <Theimon> it will restart the xserver, i know, but after that it gives me the same problem
[01:59] <frying_fish> Lewis_: it guides you through that surely...
[01:59] <lawine> erm, _were_
[01:59] <larryone> we have a fairly small budget
[01:59] <Lewis_> Is knowledge of "How to add extra repositories" needed when installing apache?
[01:59] <frying_fish> Jan_111: how did you delete /usr?
[01:59] <frying_fish> something as root?
[01:59] <frying_fish> if so then that was stupid and you won't easily be able to fix
[01:59] <silent_scream> does wine support quicktime?
[02:00] <rixxon> is there any channel for questions regarding the ubuntu survey?
[02:00] <Lewis_> Oh, I just read that I can add extra repositories through Synaptic
[02:00] <drumline> larryone, that's always a factor.   But as long as it works, that's what matters.
[02:00] <frying_fish> silent_scream: why do you want to use something through wine for quicktime, when :mplayer (via w32 codecs) xine , vlc and others will play quicktime
[02:00] <Jan_111> Partition Magic corrputed the partition unrestorable, when decreasing a ntfs-partition...
[02:00] <charles_> My sound card is not installed, what steps must i take to fix this?
[02:00] <sv452> @ arnducky - r u refering to add downloaded packages ?
[02:00] <abaldwin> eu consequi, posso teclar como todas as marcas como      
[02:00] <juggernaut1980> ARGH!!!  same error!!!!
[02:00] <arnducky> Lewis_, repos go in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:00] <frying_fish> Jan_111: well, that was silly, most likely need a reinstall
[02:00] <drumline> larryone, meanwhile...  sleepy time for me.  Later bro!
[02:00] <larryone> drumline, we'll probably be moving it onto the Solaris machine, but it'll take a bit of hacking
[02:00] <larryone> see ye
[02:01] <nickspoon> !es
[02:01] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:01] <arnducky> sv452, 'save markings'
[02:01] <frying_fish> juggernaut1980: pastebin the exact errors.
[02:01] <frying_fish> and then pastebin your sources.list
[02:01] <sv452> ??
[02:01] <abaldwin> that was portuguese, not spanish, and I cant seem to find Ubuntu_BR
[02:01] <nickspoon> Theimon: ctrl-alt-f1
[02:01] <silent_scream> frying_fish, because i have some video tutorials of lynda.com and total training that need wine to play and they use quicktime ;)
[02:01] <Theimon> ok hold on
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: I am having no luck finding the info on that...  When I find it I will save a link or if you do please msg me with it so I will have it for next time
[02:01] <nickspoon> abaldwin: sorry, my language identification is a bit rusty ;)
[02:01] <bobz> any one about, and know how to fix teamspeak + enemy territory sound?
[02:01] <Jan_111> Can i make an repair-installation over the existing one, keeping al the configuration stuff?
[02:01] <mikeconcepts> wondering, I see several software updates today, many say dapper1, I'm on dapper
[02:02] <mikeconcepts> does it matter?
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !pt
[02:02] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[02:02] <bobz> any one about, and know how to fix teamspeak + enemy territory sound?
[02:02] <abaldwin> now...twice I tried to install from thie kubunut disc, and installation hung during copying pkgs at 97% done and 10sec left...for like 20 minutes it hung, so I aborted
[02:02] <arnducky> sv452, is for when you dl something manually and want to add it to the package cache so Synaptic can manage it in the future.
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Not underscore
[02:02] <progek> overand, changing my port worked
[02:02] <progek> i guess they did block it as well
[02:02] <progek> for ircd
[02:02] <juggernaut1980> frying_fish:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24501
[02:03] <abaldwin> I succeeded in installing from a knoppix disc, so cant figure out why kubuntu hands
[02:03] <lawine> Jan_111: copy /etc/ to /home somewhere
[02:03] <frying_fish> silent_scream: but quicktime formats can be played in others players, and why do you need "wine" to play something, since wine is just an implementation of the windows api
[02:03] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: ok
[02:03] <juggernaut1980> brb sugar fix time
[02:03] <arnducky> sv452, there is an option on the File menus called 'save markings'
[02:03] <lawine> Jan_111: and then reinstall perhaps...
[02:03] <sv452> @ arnducky - see things is - i dl my packages at work and i need to know which ones i downloaded are not at home based on a list ...
[02:03] <cowcrombie> hi~
[02:04] <sv452> so what does save markings do ?
[02:04] <Jan_111> hm...has the ubuntu-desktop-cd a repair-installation option or something like that?
[02:04] <cowcrombie> just a easy question
[02:04] <Theimon> nickspoon: i get the command prompt so ctrl-alt-f1 works
[02:04] <silent_scream> frying_fish, i've already explained you. i have to install something through wine, haven't you used video tutorials?
[02:04] <cowcrombie> if i install ubuntu on my window's pc, can i still boot into window?
[02:04] <jolt> If you do it right you can cow
[02:04] <nickspoon> Theimon: sudo apt-get remove gnome
[02:04] <arnducky> sv452 try apt-cache search and zdif then
[02:04] <cowcrombie> do it right??
[02:04] <frying_fish> video tutorials? for what? what needs installing through wine, something to play quicktime? if so thats just stupid.
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Jan_111: No , you cant stamp a repair over your old install
[02:05] <cowcrombie> how do you do it wrong...
[02:05] <nickspoon> Theimon: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:05] <frying_fish> juggernaut1980: that seems very odd
[02:05] <Theimon> ubuntu-desktop or gnome-desktop?
[02:05] <frying_fish> and not quite sure how to fix it.
[02:05] <voraistos> cowcrombie: once u have ubuntu on your PC, you will delete your windows partition.
[02:05] <nickspoon> Theimon: ubuntu-desktop.
[02:05] <Theimon> or is it the same thing?
[02:05] <Theimon> k
[02:05] <Theimon> i'll try that
[02:05] <cowcrombie> oh.... thats not good....
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Jan_111: There is a recovery mode, cli stuff...  WHat were you doing when you crashed or what did you last install
[02:05] <Jan_111> ok
[02:05] <Theimon> thx so far
[02:05] <Theimon> :)
[02:05] <nickspoon> Theimon: basically you want to uninstall gnome then reinstall the ubuntu-desktop package.
[02:06] <Lewis_> Where do I find Synaptic?
[02:06] <arnducky> frying_fish, ther wa a native Linux QT player, but Apple took it off their server -- I'd recommend searching newsgroups for it
[02:06] <frying_fish> Jack_Sparrow: don't think that will provide what he wants, if /usr is gone, then booting to "recovery mode" from grub won't help.
[02:06] <voraistos> cowcrombie: once u have ubuntu on your PC, you will delete by yourself, because you will want to, so yes, thats good
[02:06] <abaldwin> Im going to give install another shot (running from livecd right now)
[02:06] <frying_fish> arnducky: not me looking for it, I was suggesting some players that will do quicktime stuff (such as vlc and mplayer)
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> frying_fish: Came in late only saw the last two questions
[02:06] <cowcrombie> hahah, but i have a lot of things on my PC
[02:06] <Jan_111> It crashed because of a bug in a Windows-Partition-Program. It is not the fault of ubuntu or something related.
[02:06] <abaldwin> ttfn
[02:07] <arnducky> frying_fish, last time I saw it was 2003 though so vlc + plugins might be better now
[02:07] <frying_fish> Jack_Sparrow: thats ok, just don't want to help him get more confused.
[02:07] <frying_fish> arnducky: vlc would be better.
[02:07] <gnuts> hello everyone. My computer just went silent, I've been through the comprehensive sound how to in the forum with no avail. it was after an udate and an install of Democracy - if that matters. any help?
[02:07] <Jack_Sparrow> frying_fish: LEts just say he is hosed eh?
[02:07] <rods> hello
[02:07] <frying_fish> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, simple option is a reinstall
[02:07] <rods> i'm facing a strange problem..
[02:07] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed
[02:07] <rods> the follwing:
[02:07] <voraistos> cowcrombie: you can dual-boot of course. the ubuntu installer will tell u all that. no need to worries. just dont do things like "erease entire disk". thats all
[02:07] <frying_fish> Jan_111: when you installed did you make /home separate to /
[02:07] <rods> sudo: unable to lookup rod-desktop via gethostbyname()
[02:07] <Luci3n> Hi i've got problem comfiguring the alsa sound mixer how do i change an item which is off to to on for example the ps speakers
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> cowcrombie: I dual boot and I am quite happy having both XP and Uubntu available at startup
[02:08] <Theimon> well, it's installing as we speak
[02:08] <cowcrombie> so it's possible to have both windows and ubuntu installed~
[02:08] <rods> any idea?
[02:08] <jolt> cow. YES
[02:08] <cowcrombie> oooh... thats good... thanks!
[02:08] <frying_fish> rods: yep had that happen before, when it failed on getting ip and such at boottime, or dns stuff, might be easiest to reboot to fix that
[02:08] <gr8wilco> cowcrombie: sure you can
[02:08] <gr8wilco> :)
[02:08] <voraistos> cowcrombie: thats what we call dual-boot ;)
[02:08] <frying_fish> and if that fails, reboot, (to single mode) then do passwd root
[02:08] <gnuts> Luci3n: hit m while the selection is highlit
[02:08] <frying_fish> and then you can su to try and fix stuff.
[02:08] <Jan_111> i dont understand your question, but there was one partition for / und one for /usr. /home is on the partition of /
[02:08] <frying_fish> cowcrombie: yes, perfectly
[02:08] <rods> frying_fish, i've rebooted twice,,
[02:08] <cowcrombie> thanks guys!
[02:08] <cowcrombie> hahaha
[02:09] <cowcrombie> mac mini is sooo cute
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> cowcrombie: If you leave unallocated space on your hard drive and tell the installer to use that, it sets up the dual boot and everything for you automagically
[02:09] <cowcrombie> to look at
[02:09] <rods> =T didn't work
[02:09] <bobz> Any one know how to fix - I'm using Enemy Territory + Teamspeak - when i run ET i get /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy any ideas how to fix?
[02:09] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: Could this be problem: lspci | grep Ethernet gives "0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.: Unknown device 8168 (rev 01)
[02:09] <juggernaut1980> frying_fish:  that DOES seem odd!  it won't let me install anything!  argh1
[02:09] <frying_fish> Jan_111: well in that case you can't just easily reinstall and not lose all your stuff in /home, you will need to boot a live cd and back the stuff up somewhere
[02:09] <Merlin840> its being retarded and wont re-install OSX
[02:09] <Merlin840> i need OSX on it for a customer
[02:09] <Merlin840> well, a friend that is giving me hardware for it.
[02:09] <frying_fish> juggernaut1980: put the error line (about the EOF) into google and see what comes up.
[02:09] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: Could it be that ethernet drivers works only partly?
[02:09] <cowcrombie> tell them mac mini's are to look at not use
[02:09] <jolt> heh i dont have /dev/dsp though my audio works.. even though alsa sees the card..
[02:09] <Luci3n> gnuts: thanks
[02:09] <juggernaut1980> frying_fish:  ok
[02:10] <gnuts> luci3n: welcome
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: Are you using ndiswrapper or a linux driver for your card
[02:10] <rods> frying_fish, neither the networking config. panel i can open.. i can see the process running... but...
[02:10] <arnducky> Jack_Sparrow, and ntfsresize can shrink XP part'ns with empty space in them to make more room too -- or adding another physical drive is nicer
[02:10] <frying_fish> rods: I usually had that issue when I didn't get an IP at boot time,
[02:10] <cowcrombie> well i gotta go, thanks to those who helped!
[02:10] <jolt> do a defrag before you shrink an XP partition
[02:10] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: I'm not sure, What ever was installed by deafult. How can I find out?
[02:11] <jolt> also good time to delete any excess cache files and such
[02:11] <Jan_111> ok, thank you
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> arnducky: gparted can resize as part of the installation routine..
[02:11] <arnducky> jolt yes -- always and also back up your mfts and such
[02:11] <voraistos> jolt: defrag frags sometimes. not recommended. format is better.
[02:11] <rods> frying_fish, hmm this happened right after i connected my pc in a hub..
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: you would have had to install ndiswrapper...
[02:11] <jolt> Vor... Yeah if you want to get rid of windows
[02:11] <SAngeli> Hi, I need help in accieving the followings: 1) replace in Xorg "nv" with "nvidia" and therefore install nvidia drivers 2) Implement transparencies. First, could it be that I already have nvidia drivers but just need to replace nv with nvidia? If so, how to do so? manually or GUI?
[02:11] <arnducky> copy down the actual sector mappings is a good idea too
[02:11] <SAngeli> As for transparency I have to add the line "Option Composite Enable" in xorg.conf. Do I do so manually?
[02:12] <voraistos> jolt: thats exactly the point
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: Google your network card and ubuntu and see what you can find.
[02:12] <boink> ndis stuff is hard
[02:12] <jolt> Unfortunately ubuntu is not at the point to replace my windows dist personally.. Least in the apps dept
[02:12] <boink> I had to give back a wg311v3 today
[02:12] <Merlin840> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263477
[02:13] <arnducky> voraistos, oh, I thought you meant copy part'n to traget; format source; copy target back to source
[02:13] <boink> !mervin
[02:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mervin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <gnuts> anyone know why sound might completely stop all of a sudden?
[02:13] <unfknblvbl> whats a good dvd player software ?
[02:13] <jolt> Cuz it doesnt have hardware support for some devices
[02:13] <voraistos> arnducky: thats what i usually do.
[02:13] <arnducky> that actually is much faster than a defrag on very large doze part'ns
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> SAngeli: np yes it is easy to edit
[02:13] <unfknblvbl> vlc, and gxine don't work >.<
[02:13] <jolt> and there are apps that havent been ported/or have a similar function?
[02:13] <arnducky> (If it's more than 20%)
[02:13] <jolt> And wine isnt finished yet ...
[02:14] <Theimon> nickspoon: tough luck :/ it didn't work
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> SAngeli: Start by making a bakup copy from terminal type    sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf.backup
[02:14] <gnuts> I only use ubuntu, and now I can't listen to my music
[02:14] <rods> frying_fish, i have no idea what to do.. hehe
[02:14] <voraistos> jolt: no need to use unsupported devices.
[02:14] <arnducky> jolt -- any idea when wine is going to support 3D accel games w/directX ?
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> SAngeli: then to edit from a terminal type    gksudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:15] <SAngeli> Jack_Sparrow, one sec. I am opening it now
[02:15] <troughton> Jack_Sparrow just uploaded it
[02:15] <voraistos> arnducky: it does i think.
[02:15] <voraistos> arnducky: just needs lots of tweaking
[02:15] <arnducky> I could never even get it to run winamp video
[02:15] <arnducky> =P
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> SAngeli: Can you link the instructions you are following so we know where to add that composite manager line
[02:16] <SAngeli> I know where to add that.
[02:16] <SAngeli> it is under extensions section
[02:16] <Mille> howdy
[02:16] <voraistos> arnducky:i used it for nsv (winamp full), and it drained my CPU quite well, that why i use totem or gmplayer. uch better stuff.
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: Could you provide a link to the page please...
[02:17] <arnducky> mplayer can handle the nullsoft wrapper now??
[02:17] <voraistos> yes
[02:17] <arnducky> wow
[02:17] <troughton> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24503 Jack_Sparrow
[02:17] <voraistos> its been quite some time now
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> SAngeli: Did you need additional help .. nv to nvidia isnt hard..  :)
[02:17] <SAngeli> Jack_Sparrow, yes
[02:18] <SAngeli> Jack_Sparrow, how to switch from nv to nvidia?
[02:18] <Mille> I'm trying to make my wireless to work. Currently it's configured as eht1, i've reed somewhere that it should be wlan0? but its not. i did a iwconfig and it got a "wireless extention" thatis good. but how do I find hotspots etc?
[02:18] <arnducky> voraistos, I got a virus in my wine from the winamp msi stub!
[02:18] <voraistos> arnducky: loooooooooooooooooooool
[02:19] <arnducky> Then I went and found it on every native win pt'n I have that had winamp on it
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> SAngeli: you should see a line that is "nv"  just change it to "nvidia" or paste your xorg to the !pastebin and I will tell you the specific line to edit.
[02:19] <voraistos> arnducky: curse AOL
[02:19] <jolt> as long as you have the restricted package, its just a matter of switching the "nv" to nvidia in the xconfig
[02:19] <SAngeli> Jack_Sparrow, I can do so
[02:20] <bart_> Hi all
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: acpi=off is in your grub menu... what else were we looking at.?
[02:20] <SAngeli> Jack_Sparrow, Once I did make this change what to do to implement this change and see if it works?
[02:20] <gnuts> help please all my sound went dead
[02:20] <jolt> gnuts, you reboot?
[02:20] <troughton> the irratic mouse
[02:20] <Lewis_> I don't have Synaptic on my system... :S
[02:20] <sutherkain> hi
[02:20] <SAngeli> Jack_Sparrow, Do I have to restart Xorg? How to?
[02:20] <sv452> is beep media player as good as xmms - which one is better ?
[02:20] <Po0dle> is this linux ubuntu channel
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> SAngeli: save your change and ctrl-alt-backspace... ie restart
[02:20] <bart_> Is there someone who can help me with installing ATI drivers?
[02:20] <justthisguy> Po0dle: yup
[02:20] <Po0dle> :p yay
[02:21] <Merlin840> So im guessing, no one here is proficient with PPC ?
[02:21] <Lewis_> Where can I find Synaptic? It's not under system > prferences
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> SAngeli: You should see an NVIDIA whote splash screen
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> white
[02:21] <Po0dle> Loading GRUB, Please wait...
[02:21] <Po0dle> Error 17
[02:21] <Lewis_> *preferences
[02:21] <rods> frying_fish found this : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-78324.html
[02:21] <gnuts> jolt: yes
[02:21] <Po0dle> that's my error
[02:21] <rods> i'll try it
[02:21] <rods> brb
[02:21] <arnducky> voraistos, attached the drives to my ubuntoxen ATA controllers and used Aegis to clean them -- win32 AV engines didn't even see them.  Curse AOL indeed!
[02:22] <juggernaut1980> i found out that it's a syntax error in /var/lib/dpkg/available, but how do i fix that?
[02:22] <bart_> Someone have some time?? :)
[02:22] <leumas> hey
[02:22] <juggernaut1980> frying_fish:  you still here?
[02:22] <arnducky> I don't know why it wasn't all over slashdot, cnet etc...
[02:22] <janbanan> What does it make install (as root) meen? I know what make install is but what is "as root"
[02:22] <Po0dle> i get an error 17 on boot
[02:22] <leumas> man make
[02:23] <leumas> and poodle, look up error codes
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: acpi=off is in your grub menu... add acpi=no right next to it...
[02:23] <leumas> for either grub or ubuntu
[02:23] <arnducky> janbanan, use sudo in ubuntu
[02:23] <voraistos> hey guys. i was helping some dude with a mac, and we had a disconnection while i was doing hdd maintenance through ssh. do u think the guy is gonna come back? (i mean its been 30 minutes now....)
[02:23] <janbanan> thanls
[02:23] <Arrick> morning voraistos
[02:23] <MrNaz> when i am running reconfigure xorg on my box, i get "nv" as well as "nvidia" as driver options, the second one is the binary installed one correct? does this mean i have it installed correctly?
[02:23] <voraistos> lo
[02:23] <jazzrocker> !restricted
[02:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:23] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: sorry that took so long but I think it's Marvell Yukon Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000Base-T Adapter
[02:23] <der0b> can you include text in drawers?  Maybe the comment field?
[02:23] <bobz> Could some one help me with my sound?
[02:24] <juggernaut1980> right.  i have to go wake my friend up now.  y'all have a good day!  night shift out.  :P
[02:24] <leumas> lol, so this is like a help room?
[02:24] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: so does that ndiwrapper use windows network drivers for linux?
[02:24] <Arrick> leumas, its a support channel
[02:24] <troughton> ok rebooting now
[02:25] <leumas> good, i'm in the right place then :)
[02:25] <arnducky> epsi, yes that's exactly what ndiswrapper does
[02:25] <leumas> i need to know how to make my icons smaller. i'd find it myself, but i'm looking for an easy way out
[02:25] <voraistos> click right
[02:25] <voraistos> on the icons
[02:26] <epsi> arnducky: does it work fine?
[02:26] <Arrick> voraistos, ??
[02:26] <leumas> what then?
[02:26] <Po0dle> need help pls
[02:26] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: so what I have to do is to download xp drivers and use those with Ndiswrapper?
[02:26] <msikma> Hello everybody. Could someone help me with some really nasty loss of partition?
[02:26] <voraistos> help room > support channel ;)
[02:26] <leumas> :P
[02:26] <Arrick> oh ok
[02:26] <arnducky> epsi -- depends on the driver and hardware.  I've used it successfully for Broadcom wifi devices but that's all
[02:26] <TeePOG> msikma: what filesystem?
[02:27] <justthisguy> Po0dle: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=grub+error+codes+17&meta=
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: I googled ubuntu dapper Marvell Yukon Gigabit Ethernet  and found lots of info.. and it should work out of the box, unless it detected a second card ort the wrong card.
[02:27] <voraistos> leumas: did you find the stretch option ?
[02:27] <msikma> I dual boot OSX and Ubuntu, but when trying to reinstall Ubuntu I accidentally deleted my OSX partition. Or something. Whatever happened; my OSX partition is still there (with the same volume name) but it's apparently completely empty.
[02:27] <leumas> yeah, but i'm looking for something to shrink them all down
[02:27] <msikma> I'm now on the live CD.
[02:27] <jazzrocker> ok wtf: http://pastebin.ca/180666
[02:27] <justthisguy> Po0dle: First one maybe looks useful
[02:27] <troughton> Jack_Sparrow that is a lot better thank you next i dont have any sound
[02:27] <jazzrocker> synaptic won't install totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin
[02:27] <msikma> I'd like to recover my OSX partition (which is HFS+ I think) using Ubuntu, then when I've got my OSX partition back I'd like to back up some stuff and _then_ attempt to reinstall the system...
[02:27] <bart_> Can someone pleasee help me with installing ATI drivers, I tried everything but it keeps starting mesa
[02:28] <TeePOG> hmmm msikma, i have too little experience with OSX... any idea which filesystem it uses?
[02:28] <voraistos> leumas: hmm i think you have to load nautilus to find this option
[02:28] <jazzrocker> where do I get the updated plugin and or why haven't the repo maintainers updated the plugin along with toem
[02:28] <msikma> TeePOG: HFS+
[02:28] <TeePOG> oh
[02:28] <arnducky> epsi -- try to find a linux driver first -- most gigabit NICs should have one - after all Linux is kicking the snot out of M$ in the server market
[02:28] <sasasa>  
[02:28] <leumas> voraistos: how?
[02:28] <jazzrocker> or how do i revert to a previous version of totem so that the plugin works
[02:28] <janbanan> The latest kernel update really screw things up. I can't put my gdesklets att the bottom of my desktop
[02:28] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: well if lspci tell something about Realtek, it is detected wrongly?
[02:28] <drnoone> anyone has a Compro Videomate Gold Remote Control working under Ubuntu Dapper?
[02:28] <msikma> If you're knowledgeable on data recovery, maybe you could help me out? It would be great. :)
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: that is my guess.
[02:28] <gnuts> does gdebi uninstall packages?
[02:28] <minerale> I'm trying to install grub on a flash drive, does it matter if the flash drive is FAT16 ? --- how do I install grub on a flash disk? grub-install keeps telling me something about missing BIOS drive
[02:28] <voraistos> leumas: just go to places Home, but after that i am not sure where tofind the option. i am discovering as well ;)
[02:29] <sarikan> hi, could anyone help me out with wpa and static ip
[02:29] <Merlin840> mmk, im going to attempt this 1 more time, but i know its not going to work..
[02:29] <msikma> At this point I downloaded a program called TestDisk which apparently can look for lost partitions and recover data from it, but it cannot see the HFS+ partition at all.
[02:29] <Tomcat_> minerale: It shouldn't matter what fs is on the drive.
[02:29] <TeePOG> msikma: have you installed the hfsplus and hfsutils packages? that should give you some options
[02:29] <sarikan> I am using the network applet and it does not have any options for static ip
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: I need to take 5 and finish my coffee, hope you dont mind, someone will be able to help or I will return in a few, though I will be watching,lurking etc.
[02:29] <arnducky> sarikan, look up wpasuplicant
[02:29] <msikma> TeePOG: I will go do that right now.
[02:29] <arnducky> (two p's?)
[02:29] <troughton> ok m8
[02:30] <TeePOG> ok msikma... i haven't used those myself, but i imagine it's a lot like the ntfstools package...
[02:30] <Merlin840> Mac OS 9 Install Disk wont boot when I press C at boot.
[02:30] <sarikan> arnducky: just started, thanks, let me see what it is
[02:30] <msikma> TeePOG: they're installed by default on the Live CD, it seems.
[02:30] <msikma> So I have them.
[02:30] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: What would be easiest way to replace current wrong eth-driver with right one?
[02:30] <TeePOG> and the ntfstools package gives you some recovery options for corrupted ntfs partitions
[02:31] <msikma> But the thing is, I can't seem to mount my internal HFS+ hard disk (properly?)
[02:31] <ramvi> Hi there! I have a saab 93 with a navigation system. It seems that the whole thing is run of a CD (in the back of the car). And there's of cause a computer.  As a computer geek, I wonder if there is any projects to make your own cd and have the computer do more. Like play movies or anything
[02:31] <TeePOG> i don't have OSX msikma, so i'm guessing here... but type [at the console]  "hfs" and press Tab to show all the progs which you have to work with that
[02:31] <msikma> Apparently, "Mothership", my HFS+ partition, is on /dev/sda2. Double-clicking it won't mount it.
[02:32] <LadyNikon> O.o
[02:32] <drnoone> anyone has a Compro Videomate Gold Remote Control working under Ubuntu Dapper?
[02:32] <RedGhost> Is there online documentation of Linux syscalls and maybe CRT functions --something like the msdn?
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: try the diskmounter script..   http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[02:32] <msikma> TeePOG: apparently there aren't any programs I can use.
[02:32] <leumas> what can i use to mount CD images?
[02:32] <TeePOG> hmm msikma, brb
[02:32] <msikma> Jack_Sparrow: thanks, I'll try that too.
[02:33] <stefg> RedGhost: you can be sure there is... the art lies in finding it :-)
[02:33] <Mille> how do i seach for hotspots in ubuntu?
[02:33] <LadyNikon> ramvi: your gpss ?
[02:33] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: Thank you anyway, I don't know did yet did this help but now I have something else to try :)
[02:33] <MrNa1> .
[02:33] <RedGhost> stefg, That helps ^^
[02:33] <epsi> -did
[02:33] <justthisguy> leumas: mount
[02:33] <leumas> that works?
[02:33] <drnoone> leumas: mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso
[02:33] <TeePOG> msikma: there's a package called hfsutils-tcltk, which is apparently a frontend for the hfsutils package
[02:34] <ramvi> LadyNikon, yeah. I coudn't care less for the gps. but there's a nice built-in screen and a computer. linux linux ;)
[02:34] <TeePOG> wonder if that might give you options
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: np, I needed to wake up some before continuing..
[02:34] <leumas> ha, so i don't need a program if i have linux, huh?
[02:34] <LadyNikon> ramvi: ah. and what does it do?
[02:34] <msikma> TeePOG: let me download that too. I've downloaded that script, by the way, Jack_Sparrow, but how do I run it?
[02:34] <drnoone> leumas: correct
[02:34] <leumas> awesome. i knew this was a good idea
[02:34] <leumas> drnoone, while you have my attention
[02:34] <arnducky> msikma, is it fstab or mtab?
[02:34] <leumas> how do i make everything on my screen smaller without changing the resolution?
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: did you save it without a file extension?  It should not need one.. Did you sve it to your desktop?
[02:35] <sasasa> 
[02:35] <msikma> Jack_Sparrow: to my home folder.
[02:35] <arnducky> msikma, and if so are settings correct?
[02:35] <msikma> arnducky: I have no idea. I'm not that knowledgeable with that.
[02:35] <justthisguy> leumas: depends on your window manager themes, probably
[02:35] <drnoone> leumas: try to reduce the icon size on configuration. I use KDE so, I don't know Gnome very well
[02:35] <Mille> anyone...? my wireless nic seams to be configured correctly after all. but how do I search for my wireless router?
[02:36] <ramvi> LadyNikon, it plays radio and shows a map. I want to have the world at my fingertips
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: np  after saving use terminal and type sudo bash diskmounter
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: assuming you are in ther correct directory/folder
[02:36] <msikma> ah
[02:36] <msikma> I've got it now, I needed to change permissions :)
[02:36] <LadyNikon> ah
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: type ls to see if you are in home..
[02:37] <LadyNikon> ramvi: i wonder would any tampering on your part void the warrenty
[02:37] <msikma> Looks like the script didn't find anything.
[02:37] <househead> hello all
[02:37] <arnducky> msikma, fstab is a list of all devices automatically mounted (dismounted) including hdds fdds cdroms and scsi devs (sd[x] )
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: when you restart you will see your mounts on your desktop for easy access.
[02:37] <msikma> For the record, when I try to double-click on my HFS+ hard drive in Gnome, it says it "could not execute pmount".
[02:37] <ramvi> LadyNikon, hmm -- well.. It's a computer and I want new software
[02:37] <troughton> i cant get the sound working on my compaq presario v6000 can anyone help
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: If you dont want them on your desktop Use Terminal and type gconf-editor browse to /apps/nautilus/desktop and uncheck volumes_visable
[02:38] <msikma> Jack_Sparrow: but the thing is, I'm using the Live CD. I don't want to install anything on the hard disk because that would most likely ruin any chance I have of recovering my old files.
[02:38] <LadyNikon> ramvi: i know.. but its apart of your car right?
[02:38] <arnducky> msikma, read man fstab and browse /etc/fstab it is a VERY usefull thing to learn
[02:38] <LadyNikon> factory installed ramvi ?
[02:38] <sasasa> daposhli vi vse v zopu
[02:38] <househead> I'm having a problem with gnome-power-manager, the state doesn't change with power state, despite acpid logs and "lshal -m" showing state changes. Anyone experienced this before? On a previous dapper install only last week it was fine on the same hardware
[02:38] <LadyNikon> sasasa: english please
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: THen we may need to edit your /etc/pmount.allow to include that drive
[02:39] <Lewis> How do I use remote desktop on my Ubuntu system? I'm unsure how to do this because when i type the adress of my Ubuntu computer into my windows laptop for Remote desktop, It cannot find the adress...
[02:39] <Po0dle> can someone pls elp me with grub loading error 17
[02:39] <anonymeeee> what package do I need to view/copy dvd's?
[02:39] <msikma> Jack_Sparrow: perhaps. What would I need to add there to mount /dev/sda2?
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[02:39] <arnducky> Jack_Sparrow, will that work without a correct fstab and/or mtab entry?
[02:39] <househead> Lewis: linux doesn't use the remote desktop server service, try vnc
[02:40] <msikma> I'd just like to mount it so that I can try to run TestDisk on it... that program could possibly recover my data.
[02:40] <LadyNikon> ramvi: i mean.. a warrenty on a computer i would toss to the wind in a heart beat.. but on a car i would think twice about.. at least til its no longer under warrenty
[02:40] <Neo8750> rc  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-7-generic 2.6.17.5-1                           Non-free Linux 2.6.17 modules on x86_64 gene <--- what does the rc at start of line mean?
[02:40] <Lewis> Ok, so I can download this from Synaptic?
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> arnducky: he should have correct fstab since he ran diskmounter..  but we can look at fstab to be sure.
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[02:40] <leumas> i have a larger problem now
[02:40] <arnducky> ah, so.
[02:40] <LadyNikon> ramvi: actually i just thought about the age of your car.
[02:40] <LadyNikon> ramvi: probably doesnt matter
[02:41] <Po0dle> he
[02:41] <LadyNikon> i am just waking up :D
[02:41] <househead> Lewis: yeah, apt-get install tightvnc, then read the manual on how to set it up. google is your friend
[02:41] <Po0dle> pls help
[02:41] <msikma> I only have two lines in my fstab, Jack_Sparrow.
[02:41] <arnducky> good morning everyone -- msut run away before the sun comes up
[02:41] <LadyNikon> Po0dle: have you checked the forums?
[02:41] <Po0dle> yes
[02:41] <msikma> The script that I ran did not find any usable Mac/Windows drives.
[02:41] <LadyNikon> alright class time
[02:41] <justthisguy> Po0dle: Didn't I answer your question a while back?
[02:41] <anonymeeee> so nobody watches dvd's on their ubuntu boxes?
[02:41] <LadyNikon> good day all
[02:41] <arnducky> msikma, pastebin em
[02:41] <househead> can anyone help me, i have checked and posted in the forums
[02:41] <arnducky> anonymeeee, I do
[02:41] <LadyNikon> anonymeeee: sorry i dont have a dvd player
[02:42] <leumas> my computer hasn't detected my monitors potential properly, so instead of my usual 1280x1024@60 i get 1024x768@85. how can i set my screen resolution manually?
[02:42] <ulinskie> anybody knows y my kernel 2.6.17 crashes, I am using edubuntu.. but if I use the 2.6.16 it functions well
[02:42] <Po0dle> yes u did
[02:42] <Po0dle> but didnt find it quite useful
[02:42] <jrib> leumas: does system > preferences > screen resolution not list that setting?
[02:42] <anonymeeee> arnducky: what software do you use to watch dvd's?
[02:42] <xabo> someone knows a good source for streaming radio, to 3gp format? like shoutcast, so pepole can listen via mobile / 3Gp
[02:42] <msikma> arnducky: doing it now, just a sec.
[02:42] <leumas> jrib: no
[02:42] <jrib> ubotu: tell leumas about fixres
[02:42] <househead> leumas > you may need to add your hsync and vertrefresh manually in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:42] <justthisguy> leumas: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is what i used, you go through some menus and its in there
[02:42] <msikma> arnducky: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24505
[02:42] <msikma> That's my fstab.
[02:43] <arnducky> anonymeeee, check out xine or mplayer (look in the wiki under 'restricted formats' cause you'll need deCSS to play copyrighted titles)
[02:43] <leumas> thanks everyone :D
[02:43] <Arrick> hey guys where did all the breezy users move too? people like _jason, nickrud?
[02:43] <Arrick> jrib, nice
[02:43] <RMorris84>  i did a apt-get update/dist-upgrade, and when i rebooted, my wireless didnt work and when i clicked the monitor it said: SIOCGIFFLAGS error: No such device... so i tried to used the old kernel and no dice still didnt work... so at this point i guess i need to know what i need to do to get my system back to dapper...
[02:43] <anonymeeee> thank you arnducky
[02:43] <Arrick> thanks, where you been hiding?
[02:43] <anonymeeee> I'll look into that
[02:44] <househead> RMorris84: what kinda card is it?
[02:44] <arnducky> anonymeeee, the package that contains deCSS is called dvdcss or dvdcss2 now IIRC)
[02:44] <Arrick> jrib, you used to help me out when I first started using breezy, where you been iding?
[02:44] <Po0dle> so pls
[02:44] <RMorris84> househead: its a broadcom 4311
[02:44] <Po0dle> id like to see my pc fixed
[02:44] <justthisguy> RMorris84: That happened to me upgrading from breezy. Theres usually just a coupla modules you have to insmod, i think
[02:44] <househead> RMorris84: is that a kernel-level driver or an apt-get<able> package? if the latter, try reinstalling
[02:44] <jrib> Arrick: doing other stuff, school, etc... but I'm still on here once in a while
[02:44] <Arrick> oh ok
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Good broadcom 43xx link...  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: Did you run diskmounter?
[02:45] <Arrick> jrib, what is the best way to setup breezy as a firewall?
[02:45] <msikma> Jack_Sparrow: you mean the script you linked to?
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[02:45] <RMorris84> justthisguy: how did u get it working...
[02:45] <arnducky> Jack_Sparrow, all he ahs in there is UFS
[02:45] <househead> Arrick: using iptables, of course
[02:45] <msikma> I tried it, but it couldn't find any mountable or otherwise usable partitions.
[02:45] <arnducky> goodfnight now
[02:45] <msikma> I just pastebinned my fstab: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24505
[02:45] <RMorris84> househead: i had it setup through ndiswrapper with the link that Jack_Sparrow just put in the chat
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> arnducky: I see that
[02:46] <Bassetts> what format should i use to format my flash drive so ubuntu and win can read/write, FAT or FAT32?
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: I saw that...
[02:46] <househead> RMorris84: urgh, ndiswrapper, makes me shudder. is there no native driver for your card?
[02:46] <justthisguy> RMorris84: I had to find the modules that corresponded to my  hardware with goodle, and then I sudo modpobe'd them.
[02:46] <msikma> Jack_Sparrow: oh, sorry. :) Should I pastebin my pmount too?
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> no need
[02:46] <msikma> Actually, my pmount contains just commentary.
[02:47] <RMorris84> househead: i dont know :( i think i searched before and couldnt find anything, and it definitly didnt "just work" :)
[02:47] <Arrick> househead, I know that, I am trying to be able to read the ip tables over ssh, and its coming out a gibberish when I log in using putty, or winscp over ssh
[02:47] <househead> Bassetts: either, but i'd suggest fat32
[02:47] <leumas> what does everyone use for playing music here?
[02:47] <househead> Arrick: what comman u using? "iptables -L -v" should show current rules
[02:47] <SAngeli> how to make grub at bootload show boot load processes with smaller char for smaller windows res?
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: you can try adding /dev/sda to it as in   this link  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[02:48] <justthisguy> leumas: beep-media-player/xmms here
[02:48] <jrib> ubotu: tell leumas about players
[02:48] <househead> leumas: beep-media-player2
[02:48] <voraistos> Bassetts: you cant compress fat32, i would use fat16
[02:48] <troughton> i cant get sound on my laptop can anyone help ??
[02:48] <msikma> Jack_Sparrow: it seems that the volume I'm after is /dev/sda2, but should I add /dev/sda anyway?
[02:48] <leumas> i know about players :P i'm using VLC
[02:48] <Bassetts> voraistos, compress how?
[02:48] <househead> jrib: he asked what WE were using
[02:48] <leumas> thanks though
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: see the link..
[02:49] <justthisguy> troughton: what soundcard?
[02:49] <msikma> Jack_Sparrow: by the way, thank you very much for helping out so far. :) I have no idea how this could have happened, but I'm glad that someone's able to assist.
[02:49] <jrib> househead: I've used all of those at some point though :P
[02:49] <Arrick> househead, ok, I was trying to open the file, didnt know how to view it or anything anymore
[02:49] <jrib> leumas: take a look at mocp too which is a nice ncurses player
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: you do need the partition #
[02:49] <househead> jrib: me too mate, gotta give them all a test-drive
[02:49] <voraistos> Bassetts: i dunno how to do that with linux, but with windows there was a tool... i dont remember its name :p
[02:49] <leumas> thanks for the tip
[02:49] <troughton> nVidia Corporation MCP51
[02:49] <Bassetts> voraistos, ok, its a 1gb stick so i dont think i will need to compress it
[02:50] <voraistos> ook
[02:50] <leumas> how do i reset X?
[02:50] <jrib> leumas: ctrl-alt-backspace -- save your work first
[02:50] <househead> right, i've helped some, now i want some help, will repost my question...
[02:50] <househead> I'm having a problem with gnome-power-manager, the state doesn't change with power state, despite acpid logs and "lshal -m" showing state changes. Anyone experienced this before? On a previous dapper install only last week it was fine on the same hardware
[02:50] <drnoone> anyone has a Compro Videomate Gold Remote Control working under Ubuntu Dapper?
[02:50] <leumas> lol, restart, k
[02:51] <Arrick> househead, this is what I get when I use that command, remember I am on breezy. -bash: /sbin/iptables: cannot execute binary file
[02:51] <msikma> Jack_Sparrow: strangely enough, I can't even see /dev/sda2 using sudo fdisk -l
[02:51] <msikma> (Haven't added it to my pmount yet.)
[02:51] <househead>  Arrick: you have some problems there then mate
[02:51] <msikma> I can see /dev/sda1, though, which is the EFI partition.
[02:52] <househead> Arrick: try resinstalling iptables "apt-get remove --purge iptables && apt-get install iptables" then retry
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton: http://jrblevin.freeshell.org/weblog/linux/mcp51-alsa  interesting info....
[02:53] <msikma> Jack_Sparrow: okay, I've added it to my pmount. I now cannot get anything to happen when I try to double-click the icon in my computer window, but at least it's no longer giving me an error.
[02:54] <Arrick> househead, E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied                                       ) E: Unable to lock the list directory
[02:54] <spdf> Arrick, sudo apt-get .....
[02:54] <househead> Arrick: add "sudo" to the start of both commands
[02:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> Arrick, run the command with sudo
[02:54] <msikma> Jack_Sparrow: hmm... any other tips? TestDrive still cannot seem to find my HFS+ partition, and thus I cannot tell it to try and recover data from it.
[02:54] <Arrick> yeah I just remembered
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: I know you are desperate to recover your windows partition but you may need to face facts that it may be gone to MS heaven or heck as the case may be.  I might offer one last suggestion.  You try the ultimate boot cd with a bunch of ntfs and other repair tools..
[02:54] <househead> Arrick: i.e. before apt-get
[02:54] <RMorris84> what do i need to back up if i wanted to just go back to dapper? I dont care so much about my programs, i can get those again... i want to keep pretty much all my preferences suchs as my firefox bookmarks, etc...
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[02:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> RMorris84, then backup your home
[02:55] <Arrick> househead, can I pm?
[02:55] <RMorris84> just home thats it?
[02:55] <househead> RMorris84: your home directory and the etc directory IMO
[02:55] <msikma> Jack_Sparrow: it actually isn't a Windows partition. It's a Mac OS X HFS+ partition. Strangely, all data just went "missing". I never formatted it, so the data must still be there.
[02:55] <[NikO] > could someone find a solution to installe xgl on dapper ?
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !xgl
[02:56] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:56] <Arrick> househead, Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done The following packages will be REMOVED:   iptables* ubuntu-standard* 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 37 not upgraded. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 1028kB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? y (Reading database ... 13338 files and directories currently installed.) Removing ubuntu-standard ... Removing iptables ... E: Could not o
[02:56] <Arrick> pen lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the list directory
[02:57] <RMorris84> househead: etc what does that contain?
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: I have no other ideas if nothing is seeing your partition
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: Double check with gparted
[02:57] <sv452> is it safe to remove ubuntu-desktop ??
[02:57] <spdf> Arrick, Paste things to pastebin.com
[02:57] <househead> sv452: sure, it's just a metapackage
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> It is part of the install program, and you can bail out after getting the partition info from it..
[02:58] <sv452> metapackage ????
[02:58] <househead> sv452: a package that simply installs other non-metapackages
[02:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> sv452, its ok to remove, untill upgrade time
[02:58] <msikma> Jack_Sparrow: gparted can see the drive. It's mounted but has a lock icon next to it.
[02:59] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: go to system admin disks
[02:59] <Arrick> spdf whose pasting, that was typed
[02:59] <stefg> anyone has a better suggestion for a bittorrent-client (gtk!) than running uTorrent in wine?
[02:59] <sv452> there is a load of stuff i don't want/need and i wanna uninstall them but they say i need to remove ubuntu-desktop but it is used for upgrading
[02:59] <MNGRVE> okay, this is a dumb question, but right now i'm using dpkg to configure xorg, and i can't figure out how to mark what resolutions i want to use
[03:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> space bar
[03:00] <MNGRVE> ty :)
[03:00] <msikma> Jack_Sparrow: Disks Manager shows something differently, it seems.
[03:00] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: Select your drive on the left and the partitions tab on the right
[03:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> np :)
[03:00] <msikma> It only shows "partition 1".
[03:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> sv452, unless you need the space, leave it there
[03:00] <msikma> Which is /tmp/disks-conf-sda1
[03:00] <stefg> sv452: ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage... don't worry, your installed packages will still update :-)
[03:00] <jrib> stefg: bittornado?
[03:01] <stefg> jrib: uhmmm....
[03:01] <sv452> now i am confused - will it upgrade or not ?
[03:01] <justthisguy> yes
[03:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> it will upgrade on the same ubuntu version, it wont upgrade cleanly to the next version
[03:01] <Wikipedia-Gast> why
[03:01] <epsi> Where are listed those kernel modules that are loaded during boot? I need to replace my network driver with another..
[03:01] <Wikipedia-Gast> kernel sucks
[03:02] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: I am out of ideas on how you are going to recover that info..  you may need some mac specific tools.
[03:02] <Wikipedia-Gast> kernel sucks
[03:02] <jrib> !ops
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[03:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> epsi, in /etc/modules
[03:02] <msikma> I'd prefer Linux tools since I'd have to actually use the hard drive to get Mac OS X working.
[03:02] <Wikipedia-Gast> kernel sucks
[03:02] <sv452> upgrade cleanly to the next version ?????? elaborate please ?
[03:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks rob
[03:02] <Arrick> thanks rob
[03:02] <rob> np guys ;)
[03:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[03:03] <gnomefreak> rob he is a known bot
[03:03] <gnomefreak> :)
[03:03] <k-man__> hello
[03:03] <Grub_now> bot ?
[03:03] <k-man__> where can i get the liblame0 package from?
[03:03] <jrib> !info liblame0
[03:03] <stefg> sv452: a meta-package does not contain a real app, it just got dependencies, so installing a single (meta-)package will draw a conviniently premade selection of real packages
[03:03] <Arrick> !bot
[03:03] <ubotu> liblame0: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 147 kB, installed size 376 kB
[03:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> sv452, when you upgrade to a new version of ubuntu, you cant bes ure the dependancies for packages will be met without ubuntu-desktop
[03:03] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:03] <jrib> ubotu: tell k-man__ about multiverse
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: I hope I dont get flammed for this... but try Knoppix. I did have luck with it on occasion...
[03:04] <Arrick> !pastebin
[03:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:04] <drbreen> hello. i have just assembled a brand-new server and now i have put in the ubuntu 6.06 cd and tried to boot but it gives me a "kernel panic"
[03:04] <jrib> k-man__: use apt-get or synaptic after enabling multiverse
[03:04] <Lewis> Ok, i've installed Apache via Synaptic so i can run my desktop as a server...what should i do now?
[03:04] <drbreen> that annoys me
[03:04] <msikma> It's bizarre that the Mac OS X installer's "Disk Utility" of all things would do this to my partition.
[03:04] <househead> Lewis: read the manual mate
[03:04] <leumas> i would like to thank everyone for helping us all out :D
[03:05] <k-man__> jrib, i did enable multiverse and it still doesn't findit
[03:05] <househead> leumas: np
[03:05] <stefg> drbreen: is your root=... parameter right in the kernel boot line?
[03:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> drbreen, run memtest :)
[03:05] <drbreen> can anyone here help me with this problem ? "kernel panic" sounds very strange
[03:05] <jrib> k-man__: post your sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org please
[03:05] <leumas> i have my best resolution now
[03:05] <mrhulot> Hi all ... I have a problem with a NFS share. I cant find any answers on the net or on ubuntuforums. Is anybody willing enough to help me?? PM me ! Thanks!
[03:05] <drbreen> ill show
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: I have a g4 here that has on occasion done something unexpected
[03:05] <donald_> stefg I installed automax which gave me several bit torrent clients
[03:05] <househead> brbreen: need more info, what were you doing?
[03:05] <leumas> and the icons are pretty tolerable
[03:05] <thomas__b> Somebody here got a grafikcard in the i810 serie?
[03:05] <msikma> hmmmm
[03:05] <stefg> !i810
[03:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i810 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:05] <Arrick> jrib, check this out will you, from breezy http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24506
[03:05] <msikma> Wait a minute, running TestDisk as sudo suddenly added /dev/sda
[03:06] <stefg> !fixres
[03:06] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:06] <gnuts> hi, I hiberated dapper and my sound died, won't come bask after restart. please help
[03:06] <troughton> Jack_Sparrow i have downloaded the installer but i cant get it running
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> donald_: Not a good script to run...
[03:06] <drbreen> stefg: there is a root=/dev/ram parameter
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> troughton:  can you link what you are trying to install.
[03:07] <msikma> Jack_Sparrow: looks like I finally can see the /dev/sda drive at least. It's now looking for partitions...
[03:07] <drbreen> that works on every other machine
[03:07] <minerale> ok, so I was trying to install grub on my flash drive, now it's been rendered unreadable, how can I format it ?
[03:07] <stefg> drbreen: that looks very suspicious
[03:07] <mrhulot> Hi all ... I have a problem with a NFS share. I cant find any answers on the net or on ubuntuforums. Is anybody willing enough to help me?? PM me ! Thanks!
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> msikma: what changed that it now sees sda?
[03:07] <jrib> Arrick: and you have no synaptic or other apt-get open?
[03:07] <Arrick> nope
[03:07] <leumas> hey, what is the ubuntu equivalent of msconfig?
[03:07] <drbreen> stefg: suspicious ? i dont know what you mean...
[03:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> leumas, what do you want to do?
[03:08] <don-harry> irc.freenode.net
[03:08] <k-man__> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24507
[03:08] <RMorris84>  so how the hell do i NOT upgrade to this pos edgy? im having to backup stuff i need at this point so i can slick the hd, but when i get it back up i dont want to have an update put me back in this situation
[03:08] <Arrick> jrib, its basic install, with openssh-server installed, I havent done anything else
[03:08] <leumas> start things up when i login
[03:08] <sv452> what is apptitude and what the diff between it and apt-get ?
[03:08] <leumas> automatically
[03:08] <jrib> Arrick: sudo apt-get isntall iptables, you forgot the sudo after &&
[03:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> leumas, in system -> prefs tehres a place to do that
[03:08] <Arrick> ok
[03:08] <leumas> thanks
[03:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> nto sure what its called - havent used it
[03:08] <RMorris84> leumas: sessions
[03:08] <stefg> drbreen: a typical line looks like /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[03:09] <Arrick> hey that works
[03:09] <leumas> aaah, there we are :D
[03:09] <msikma> Jack_Sparrow: running TestDisk as sudo.
[03:09] <leumas> thanks to both of you
[03:09] <gnuts> anyone? sound help, or should I be in another room?
[03:09] <msikma> It was stupid of me to not do that before.
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[03:09] <troughton> i have down loaded the file and it says i have to type su "filename" to install but it is not working
[03:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> drbreen, are you running the os completely in ram? if so /do / run memtest, its an amzingly usefull tool
[03:09] <jrib> k-man__: is http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1 a local mirror of dapper main?  You need dapper multiverse, you only have dapper-backports multiverse.  Add multiverse to the end of line 3
[03:09] <Arrick> jrib, now how do I view and edit the iptables, either command or with windows?
[03:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> troughton, try sudo filename
[03:10] <Lewis> Where do I find the manual on how to use my ubuntu desktop as a server?
[03:10] <Lewis> Any ideas?
[03:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> looked in the help/wiki?
[03:10] <troughton> have dont it says missing destination file
[03:10] <jrib> Arrick: firestarter is a gui frontend.  If you want to write iptables rules by hand, google for iptables howto, there is a pretty good one out there
[03:10] <Arrick> !server
[03:10] <msikma> oops
[03:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[03:10] <msikma> Accidentally left the server.
[03:10] <msikma> :)
[03:10] <paul80> Bonjour
[03:10] <rod> hi, my wireless card wasn't picked up correctly while doing a re-install (though it was fine the previous install 2 weeks ago), how do i go about getting it detected without trying another re-install?
[03:10] <Arrick> ok thanks jrib
[03:10] <k-man__> jrib, ah,thanks
[03:10] <stefg> !wifi
[03:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:11] <k-man__> jrib, superm1 is for mythtv 0.20
[03:11] <leumas> is there anything with a GUI that i can use to format and make partitions?
[03:11] <k-man__> jrib, which needs liblame
[03:11] <rod> ok thanks, *reading*
[03:11] <stefg> !info gparted
[03:11] <ubotu> gparted: partition editor for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 232 kB, installed size 1280 kB
[03:11] <leumas> (i can do it from the command line but that takes thought)
[03:11] <jrib> k-man__: hmm, in that case you might still want to put the official dapper main in there
[03:11] <leumas> thanks
[03:12] <paul80> quelqu'un peut il m'aider pour un pb de vnc
[03:12] <paul80> ?
[03:12] <stefg> !fr
[03:12] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
, <Kamping_Kaiser>: i try to boot the live cd and do not know what
[03:12] <k-man__> jrib, its there,ijust realised i cutoff the top of the paste
[03:12] <drbreen> to do
[03:12] <jrib> k-man__: oh, ok
[03:12] <k-man__> jrib, sorry for the confusion
[03:12] <forevertheuni> hey there...I updated to edgy
[03:12] <drbreen> i 'll try memtest
[03:12] <jrib> !edgy
[03:12] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:12] <RMorris84> how do i not upgrade to edgy?
[03:13] <forevertheuni> and fglrx isn't working right
[03:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> drbreen, good luck with it :)
[03:13] <forevertheuni> I have no direct rendering
[03:13] <jrib> RMorris84: take no action
[03:13] <forevertheuni> can someone help me?
[03:13] <mrhulot> since I dont want to multipost can anybody answer me a NFS question or if there is another channel I can get support for this? thx
[03:13] <Grub_now> !schedule
[03:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[03:13] <k-man__> jrib: thanks, its working now....
[03:13] <RMorris84> jrib: what if i need to do an apt-get update dist-upgrade?
[03:13] <thomas__b> Anyone know who which corporation, which is responsible for the i810 driver?
[03:13] <jrib> RMorris84: it won't upgrade to edgy
[03:13] <drbreen> intel ?
[03:13] <Foc> with what player can i see movies ?
[03:14] <boink> mplayer
[03:14] <stefg> !multimedia
[03:14] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[03:14] <jrib> ubotu: tell Foc about multimedia
[03:14] <jrib> doh
[03:14] <RMorris84> jrib: heh, if that were the case i wouldnt be in the situation i am in now
[03:14] <leumas> yeah it's intel
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> jrib: I am confused... If you have dapper and you run     apt-get update dist-upgrade  are you NOT telling it to upgrade to edgy
[03:16] <Foc> yea, but i cant play .avi
[03:16] <Foc> i need some codecs or something
[03:16] <forevertheuni> !ati
[03:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:16] <forevertheuni> !fglrx
[03:16] <jrib> Jack_Sparrow: no, you would need to edit your sources.list first to point to edgy repositories.  'man apt-get' explains the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade
[03:16] <jrib> Foc: the pages ubotu sent you also tell you about the codecs you need
[03:16] <thomas__b> Does anyone know if intel is aware of the video memory problems, with the i810driver?
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> jrib: point noted...  so the sources list would need to have been modified.. thanks for clearing that up
[03:17] <donald_> after installing kde desk top Im having trouble with root password can any one help
[03:18] <leumas> is it possible to create a shortcut to run windows programs with WINE? (yes or no will suffice)
[03:18] <jrib> donald_: there is no root password
[03:18] <jrib> ubotu: tell donald_ about sudo
[03:18] <jrib> leumas: yes
[03:18] <leumas> sudo passwd root
[03:18] <leumas> or something
[03:18] <leumas> i had that before
[03:19] <leumas> ubuntu uses a BASH shell, yes?
[03:19] <treb0r> Could anyone help me - having problems installing onto new dell 6400. Crashes when trying to configure xorg...
[03:20] <lassegs> I'm trying to install aixgl under edgy. Ive downloaded the debs (from ubuntuforum, because the repos are down), but I cant install them because they all depend on each other so whatever i do i get dependency error because one of the other packages isnt installed. What to do?
[03:20] <jrib> leumas: as default user shell, yes
[03:20] <leumas> treb0r, where does it crash, and how are you configuring it?
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> donald_: you must like to live dangerously, running Automatix and Using root password/login
[03:20] <treb0r> leumas: It crashes during install, when the install script is trying to configure xorg. The screen flashes as though x is coming up, then nothing
[03:20] <jrib> ubotu: tell lassegs about xgl
[03:21] <lassegs> jrib: this isnt an xgl question. this is a dpkg question
[03:21] <acuster> hey all, it should be possible to apt-get update one ubuntu in a chroot envirnoment on another, right?
[03:21] <vorbote> acuster: yes.
[03:22] <jrib> lassegs: the people in that room may be able to help you
[03:22] <juggernaut1980> well, i'm back!
[03:22] <juggernaut1980> haha
[03:22] <juggernaut1980> i still have this itchy problem with dpkg
[03:22] <acuster> vorbote, any idea how to diagnose what's going on if I can't reach the network from within the chroot directory?
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> lassegs: It is also an Edgy question...
[03:22] <leumas> jrib: would you know how to mount .mdf or .mds CD Images?
[03:22] <juggernaut1980> is there a way to overwrite a file with a copy of one from somewhere else, since the file i have contains a parse error?
[03:23] <acuster> no ping, no ifconfig (not even with a symlink'ed /proc)...
[03:23] <vorbote> acuster: you need a proper /etc/resolv.conf and usually you also need to mount a procfs filesystem *within the chroot*.
[03:23] <Hoxzer> Hmmm.... no offense but that image verifaction at ubuntuforums sucks
[03:23] <Hoxzer> in the search
[03:23] <vorbote> acuster: and an /etc/hostname as well, of course.
[03:23] <jrib> leumas: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Mounting_Iso_Files
[03:23] <acuster> vorbote, I mount /proc as a loopback mount?
[03:24] <lassegs> Hoxzer: register, then you wont have to go through that every time you search
[03:24] <leumas> thanks
[03:24] <vorbote> acuster: no, "mount -t proc procfs /proc"
[03:25] <acuster> vorbote, thanks for the ideas. I'll work on things.
[03:25] <sharperguy> Argh
[03:25] <sharperguy> ubuntu s dead
[03:25] <navik> have you heard about a ubuntu version that doesn't support the command 'su' ?
[03:25] <javaJake> Firefox crashes (says "BadMatch") when I view flash, and opera doesn't crash, but I can't see any video. The buttons and sounds work, but no video.
[03:25] <jrib> navik: no, what version?
[03:25] <troughton> how do i exit the xserver ??
[03:25] <ixion> hey guys, I just installed ubuntu 6.06 - during install I was asked to specify the password for "the new user" but not to specify a username, whats the username cos I cant login
[03:25] <Toaster^> Under keyboard preferences --> layouts, I have NO models :( how come?
[03:25] <surface-> navik wat do u mean?
[03:25] <navik> jrib: no, i don't know
[03:25] <Toaster^> this is a fresh install too!
[03:25] <navik> it's a newbie
[03:25] <javaJake> troughton, Ctrl+Alt+F1?
[03:25] <Jassovissovik> ixion - root?
[03:26] <navik> who is asking me
[03:26] <jrib> troughton: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop   then  ctrl-alt-backspace
[03:26] <navik> I don't think he knows what a version is... :P
[03:26] <sharperguy> My system wont boot at all
[03:26] <ixion> cant login as root until I change root's password, which I need to do after logging in as whatever my default user is
[03:26] <navik> sharperguy: how come you're online here then?
[03:26] <sharperguy> using the live cd
[03:26] <jrib> navik: su works fine, he may not be able to su to root though since root has no password set
[03:26] <surface-> ixion, yes this is the way of ubuntu
[03:26] <sharperguy> It's not any x-bugs
[03:26] <ubunt1> looking for help with dwl-650+ wifi card
[03:26] <navik> ah
[03:27] <javaJake> Firefox crashes (says "BadMatch") when I view flash, and opera doesn't crash, but I can't see any video. The buttons and sounds work, but no video.
[03:27] <sharperguy> I said an error about the tty initialised too fast, so it was goign to wait 5 mins
[03:27] <ixion> surface: I cant login to the system cos I dont know the username for hte alternate account? it didnt ask me to specify during install
[03:27] <jrib> ubotu: tell ixion about sudo
[03:27] <sharperguy> but it happened loads of times
[03:27] <navik> jrib: do I get this right? Ubuntu got no working root-login?
[03:27] <jrib> ubotu: tell navik about sudo
[03:27] <navik> ubunt1: I know about sudo
[03:27] <navik> fu
[03:27] <navik> but I don't like sudo
[03:27] <navik> :P
[03:27] <ixion> I know about sudo... but I still have to login to use sudo
[03:27] <navik> surely, sudo would make my life easier in the linux environment.. but... what the heck :P
[03:27] <jrib> navik: there is no difference between 'sudo -i' and doing 'su -'
[03:28] <stefg> ixion: so boot in recovery-mode and add a user with 'adduser [username] '
[03:28] <navik> jrib: yes it is, having sudo installed and not having sudo installed.
[03:28] <navik> Capisch ;)
[03:28] <ixion> recovery mode is a bootable option on the iso I downloaded?
[03:28] <juggernaut1980> anyone available to help me with my dpkg issue?
[03:28] <vorbote> ixion: boot into rescue mode, second line in the grub menu, you'll enter single-user mode, that is root. use "passwd <youruser>" and set a new password
[03:28] <navik> FTW
[03:28] <surface-> navik, gives root a passwd and use su then
[03:28] <sharperguy> When i try to boot, it fails to load the tty, and it wont mount my root partition (which is fine as im playing music from it right now)
[03:28] <ubunt1> looking for driver for dwl-650+
[03:28] <jrib> ixion: oh I misread, it should have definitely asked you for a username
[03:28] <househead> hello all
[03:28] <gerhard> what was the name of the web site which builds you vmx files?
[03:29] <navik> surface-: yes I would propably have done that.. I just asked about if su existed in ubuntu, since I've never  used ubuntu.
[03:29] <sharperguy> gerhard: http://www.easyvmx.com
[03:29] <jrib> ixion: you can get access by going to "recovery mode" in the grub menu.  Mayb check what user 1000 is in /etc/passwd
[03:29] <stefg> ixion: oh, you are trying to run the Live CD?.. what's the problem there, you're already logged in there...
[03:29] <juggernaut1980> can i overwrite my /var/lib/dpkg/abailable file with another copy?
[03:29] <gerhard> thank you sharperguy
[03:29] <navik> surface-: and it is a compelete noob that is asking me questions, hes in a town about 400 km from where I am now.
[03:29] <juggernaut1980> or would that mess things up?
[03:29] <ixion> Ill go into recovery mode thanks
[03:29] <househead> bind ^q
[03:30] <sharperguy> anyone got any ideas about my problem?
[03:30] <ixion> no user 1000
[03:30] <ixion> lol
[03:30] <ubunt1> need help with dwl-650+ wifi card
[03:30] <Toaster^> I have no keyboard layouts/models in gnome. Help!
[03:30] <househead> does anyone know how to scroll up and down in bitchx?
[03:30] <ixion> Ill just adduser
[03:30] <stefg> sharperguy: that's too general. Be more specific: What happens, and when does it happen
[03:31] <sharperguy> When I try to boot, it fails to load the root partition
[03:31] <househead> i
[03:31] <sharperguy> but theres nothing wrong with it
[03:31] <stefg> sharperguy: error-message?
[03:31] <ubunt1> does anyone know how to install dlink wifi card dwl-650+
[03:31] <sharperguy> I've mounted it in the live cd
[03:31] <juggernaut1980> word up
[03:31] <ixion> ubunt1: find out what chipset that card users, atheros etc
[03:31] <sharperguy> I'm not sure, i'll have to reboot
[03:31] <jrib> ixion: make sure you add him to the right groups, especially 'admin' so he gets sudo access
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> ubunt1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=72251&highlight=dlink+wireless  may help... start at the end
[03:32] <acuster> vorbote, thanks the resolv.conf did it.
[03:32] <ubunt1> thanks, I'll try
[03:32] <juggernaut1980> am i going to have to reinstall ubuntu to fix this problem of mine?
[03:32] <ixion> jrib: I didnt do that.... do I have to reboot into recovery mode again to do that?
[03:32] <jrib> ixion: yep :/
[03:33] <stefg> !wifi >ubunt1
[03:33] <ubunt1> yes
[03:33] <gerhard> when I try to initialize the Windows XP VM, it says the file /dev/vmmon would be missing. where can I get it?
[03:34] <mirak> I don't like how config files changings are handled by dpkg. there should a possiblity to keep lines we want
[03:34] <ixion> jrib: Im in recovery mode, do I add this new user to the group "admin" ?
[03:34] <troughton> i have pressed alt ctrl f1 but it is still saying x is running how do i stop x ??
[03:34] <jrib> ixion: right
[03:34] <ixion> syntax for addgroup ?
[03:35] <jrib> ixion: sudo adduser user_name group_name
[03:35] <jrib> erm no sudo
[03:35] <ixion> ta
[03:35] <ixion> yeah :)
[03:36] <househead> does anyone know how to scroll up and down in bitchx?
[03:36] <househead> i.e. line by line?
[03:36] <BlackJordan> meu firefox simplismente  entra, ele enrola e fecha, o q fao?
[03:36] <leumas> i'm trying to mount, but i have no idea what a valid mount point would be
[03:36] <charles_> How do I find out what sound card I have, unbuntu did not detect it automaticly?
[03:36] <stefg> !pt
[03:36] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:36] <surface-> BlackJordan, i cannot understand
[03:36] <surface-> leumas, mount what?
[03:37] <leumas> an iso
[03:37] <BlackJordan> My firefox doed not open, it takes some time charging and closes
[03:37] <stefg> mount -o loop /myimg.iso /mnt
[03:37] <jrib> BlackJordan: any output when you run 'firefox' in a terminal?
[03:37] <leumas> blackjordan, any notable errors?
[03:37] <BlackJordan> nothing
[03:37] <BlackJordan> no mesages
[03:37] <surface-> leumas, u can simply create a folder as a mount point usually at /mnt or /media
[03:38] <Arrick> hey househead, what was that command for viewing the iptables again?
[03:38] <leumas> that's what i tried
[03:38] <jrib> BlackJordan: try 'firefox -safe-mode'
[03:38] <surface-> Arrick, iptables -L
[03:38] <Arrick> jrib, do I have to have the gui installed to use firestarter?
[03:38] <jrib> Arrick: yes
[03:38] <troughton> the navida installer wont install as it says i am still running the xserver how do i switch it off completly
[03:38] <charles_> How do I configure my Sound card?
[03:38] <surface-> Arrick, iptables better
[03:38] <stefg> !sound
[03:38] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[03:39] <househead> does firestarter STILL make no distinction between udp and tcp? major failing IMO
[03:39] <juggernaut1980> hello hello?
[03:39] <househead> juggernaut1980: hello
[03:39] <stefg> juggernaut1980: patience... what's the trouble, again?
[03:39] <surface-> househead, thats the reason i drop firestarter
[03:40] <househead> troughton: hot ctrl,alt and F1, login and type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" then "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"
[03:40] <juggernaut1980> househead:  hi!  would overwriting an existing file with the same from another box corrupt dpkg even further?
[03:40] <surface-> househead, there are iptables-save and iptables-load
[03:40] <househead> surface-: aye, it's completely stupid
[03:40] <bon> i cant seem to delete thing from one hard drive partion i get this error could not write file to \directory (AIO).trashinfo.
[03:40] <Hoxzer> you know, there was a time when I used to run x untill I uninstalled jack audio server but :) now ... I can just use console *wohoo*. Well ofcourse I checked erros and no no, x-log and gdm-log didn't show any errors wee
[03:40] <househead> househead:: not necessarily
[03:41] <bon> i can delete from command line
[03:41] <househead> surface-: i just use a bash script
[03:41] <juggernaut1980> when i use sudo apt-get, i get a message that points to a parse error in the /var/lib/dpkg/available file.
[03:41] <surface-> househead, i actually save the scripts from fedora and load it at my ubuntu
[03:41] <epsi> How do I replace current ethernet module r1000 with new sk98lin ?
[03:41] <we2by> I can't get flash installed. I'm getting errors. :(
[03:41] <juggernaut1980> i was working on it with someone earlier, and i can't edit the file, as i can't interpret the string of characters.  could i just replace it with a file of the same name?
[03:41] <Arrick> wow I have a 0 ms seek time when I ping
[03:41] <househead> epsi: "sudo rmmod r1000 && sudo modprobe sk98lin"
[03:41] <Astronouth7303> yesterday I installed Ubuntu 6.06 LAMP server onto an HP Pavilion 6630. Install went smoothly. I frequently get messages along the lines of "[42950901.190000]  hub 1-0:1.0: over-current change on port 2". Nothing is plugged into USB. What is going on and how do I either fix it or get it to shut up?
[03:42] <epsi> househead: done that, but now network doens't work
[03:42] <kyja> =]  on shutdown I get ubuntu and at startup I get edubuntu. ummm search un sybaptic reveales no edubuntu anything installed. This is not a major problem but is anoying. How can I get the startup to say ubuntu again?
[03:42] <househead> epsi: module must be incompatabile then
[03:43] <k31th> Is there a way to load the debian system installer inside a working ubuntu install? (i need to partition a new disk for software raid via ssh)
[03:43] <epsi> househead: I think that ifup eth0 seeks r1000 although it's removed
[03:43] <stefg> kyja: sudo dpkg-reconfigure usplash
[03:44] <epsi> househead: so are you sure that it is incompatible?
[03:44] <kyja> thx stefg
[03:44] <tirian> Is there a way to skip starting GDM on boot?
[03:44] <k31th> Anyone?
[03:46] <bon> i cant seem to delete thing from one hard drive partion i get this error could not write file to \directory (AIO).trashinfo.
[03:47] <bon> i can delete from command line
[03:48] <Arrick> DBO, you here? or are you ZZZzzzz?
[03:49] <bon> seems pritty quite in here
[03:49] <bon> what time is it in america
[03:49] <Arrick> within 3 hours of 9:49
[03:49] <bon> time
[03:49] <oueps> hi all, i need help with a Grub Error 17 , pv me ?
[03:49] <juggernaut1980> bon means good.
[03:50] <Arrick> depends on which way you go from my place
[03:50] <Astronouth7303> where would be a good place to ask about possible hardware misconfig?
[03:50] <Arrick> here, or in #wondow
[03:50] <juggernaut1980> arrick:  you're about in the middle then, eh?
[03:50] <Arrick> #windows
[03:50] <Arrick> I have an hour difference from one coast and 3 hours difference from the other
[03:51] <juggernaut1980> colorado>
[03:51] <juggernaut1980> ??
[03:51] <Arrick> Michigan
[03:51] <juggernaut1980> or maybe utah?
[03:51] <juggernaut1980> really!!
[03:51] <juggernaut1980> me too!
[03:51] <Arrick> yeah
[03:51] <Arrick> Muskegon
[03:51] <juggernaut1980> UP for me.
[03:51] <Arrick> dialup?
[03:51] <juggernaut1980> i partied in musk b4
[03:51] <bon> well it 3 o clock in edinburgh scotland
[03:51] <juggernaut1980> marquette here.
[03:51] <Astronouth7303> I'm getting a mystery "over-current change" on the current console, with nothing in the USB ports. some googling suggests an IRQ conflict. How do I confirm this, or debug more?
[03:52] <Astronouth7303> and better yet, how do I fix it?
[03:52] <TeePOG> bon: you on DST then? normally it's 2 hour difference between UK and SA
[03:52] <bon> gmt
[03:52] <bon> lol
[03:52] <juggernaut1980> bon, vous ettes francais?
[03:52] <bon> yeah
[03:53] <TeePOG> no bon, i mean Daylight Savings Time
[03:53] <bon> no
[03:53] <hojrak> hi can someone help me with installing compiz, when i do apt-get install compiz, hi say that he need compiz-plugin when i do apt-get install compiz-plugin he say that he need compiz-core and csm, compiz-core is not a problem but csm, i dont now what is this and how to instal it
[03:53] <juggernaut1980> c'est bon!  :D
[03:53] <bon> yes i am cleaver
[03:54] <kaypax> hojark: try using Synaptic when installing, it automaticly installs dependent packages too
[03:55] <juggernaut1980> kaypax:  could you help me here?
[03:55] <hojrak> i try by sinaptic, but he say this same
[03:55] <Milchmann> hi,  anybody using banshee player and the Audioscrobbler-plugin to transmit songs to last-fm?
[03:56] <Arrick> ok, maybee I just need to breakdowna dn buy a software firewall, because I am not comprehending the HowTos that I find in google on iptables
[03:56] <finalbeta> Arrick, use firestarter ?
[03:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> Arrick, what you need iptables for?
[03:57] <k31th> I cant unmunt this drive. im not in the drive and im doing the command
[03:57] <k31th>  sudo umount /media/sdd1/
[03:57] <k31th> why ?
[03:57] <k31th> it says device or resource busy
[03:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> k31th, run 'lsof |grep sdd'
[03:58] <Arrick> finalbeta, Kamping_Kaiser I have no gui, too slow, I am trying to setup a box to be a firewall for my network, and I would like to keep it free
[03:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> return anything?
[03:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> Arrick, look at debian-administration.org
[03:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> article 23
[03:58] <sharperguy> noooo!!!
[03:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> o_0
[03:58] <sharperguy> So much for my system
[03:59] <kaypax> k3lth: are you running a program found in the drive ur trying to unmount?
[03:59] <stefg> Arrick: http://freshmeat.net/projects/uif/ could be of interest to you, too
[03:59] <Arrick> ok
[03:59] <sharperguy> my whole 160GB HD shows up as unalocated!
[03:59] <mirak> why debconf doesn't use meld to help merging differences of configuration files when updating ?
[03:59] <zaggynl> terraform your hdd first
[03:59] <sharperguy> I had a lot of data on there
[03:59] <bagster> Hi I'm having trouble installin dapper drake. Am installing onto a sata drive sitting on a SiliconImage Pci controller and i keep getting the message  "[17180226: 7960001]  ata1 command 0x25 timeout stat 0x50 hoststat 0x4" However breezy installs fine. What is going on I can't seem to find any solutions.....
[04:00] <k31th> Kamping_Kaiser: Ok there was two users using the drive, so i killed them and it STILL wont umount claims dev is busy
[04:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> rofl
[04:00] <sharperguy> all my lovly data!!!!!
[04:00] <sharperguy> gone
[04:00] <sharperguy> omg
[04:00] <stefg> bagster: SIL's and dapper.... long sad story
[04:00] <xopher> Anyone here who has cimi's murrine-0.12 source package? I cant download it from his mirror..
[04:00] <sharperguy> sob
[04:00] <bon> dam
[04:00] <bagster> anything I can do??
[04:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> sharperguy, you will learn to live with it
[04:00] <ixion> hi guys: I cant get my sound working, looking in device manager though I can see its detected a number of alsa devices which fall under AC'97 Audio device. Going into preferences and sound I dont see anything listed under default sound card
[04:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> k31th, give the drive a moment to sync
[04:01] <k31th> Kamping_Kaiser: i have
[04:01] <sharperguy> I have no idea what happened though, just booted today and failed to mount root partition
[04:01] <juggernaut1980> I FIXED IT!!!!!!
[04:01] <clast> hi there
[04:01] <juggernaut1980> yay for me!
[04:01] <k31th> Kamping_Kaiser: no luck
[04:01] <sharperguy> now entire drive is wiped after running fsck, on that one partition (and fixing milloins of errors)
[04:01] <Hoxzer> is there any backup plan to surely get gdm to load if it doesn't anymore
[04:01] <k31th> wtf is going on.
[04:01] <clast> how do i get an external USB Hard disk to work in ubuntu?
[04:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> k31th, hm.
[04:02] <Hoxzer> or is reinstall onlyway?
[04:02] <stefg> bagster: use a custom kernel... the problem is: how to boot the installation with a custom kernel...
[04:02] <Hoxzer> because I cannot figure this out if gdm doesn't load and non of logfiles shows any erros
[04:02] <Arrick> stefg, freshmeat doesnt help, thanks anyways
[04:02] <Hoxzer> I'm littlebit confused to be honest
[04:02] <mypapit_> sungguh wtf
[04:03] <JohnRobert> does anyone know where the autoconf macro directory is on dapper
[04:03] <JohnRobert> ?
[04:03] <Rincewind> hi...
[04:03] <Arrick> Kamping_Kaiser, how do I knwo which is artice 23 if they have no numbers that I can see?
[04:03] <bagster> stefg: hmm am a relative linux noob - anywhere I can look to get info?
[04:03] <Rincewind> Can someone help me?
[04:04] <Rincewind> Can I do a custom install of ubuntu?
[04:04] <crashd> hmm, im trying to install 32bit ubuntu over 64bit, but the graphical livecd wont let me change resolution
[04:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> Arrick, click on a random article, change the url to /articles/23 instead of /article/320 (for example)
[04:04] <Hoxzer> ok, aargh
[04:04] <crashd> so i cant actually see most of the installer program, any workarounds?
[04:04] <Rincewind> I want to chose which programs will be installed...
[04:04] <Rincewind> is it possible?
[04:04] <stefg> bagster: you encounter the trouble at install-time, don't you? So dapper won't even install?
[04:04] <Arrick> ohok
[04:04] <crashd> anyone got any idea :<
[04:04] <sopido> hi how do i change the default applications for mime types / file extensions? i edited defaults.list but it seems there is another place?!
[04:05] <Rincewind> Is it possible for me to choose which applications I want to install during the Ubuntu install?
[04:06] <ixion> no
[04:06] <bagster> stefg - nope but  as i said breezy will. Tried to install it using live and alternate cd as well as upgrade from breezy. seems to be having trouble recognising the disk possibly
[04:06] <Rincewind> no?
[04:06] <ixion> no
[04:06] <boink> sounds harsh
[04:06] <Rincewind> damn that's sucks...
[04:06] <ixion> y?
[04:07] <leumas> how do i copy an entire directory?
[04:07] <ixion> it makes installation only one cd big and you know that all the other stuff u install is gonna be up to date
[04:07] <k31th> cp -r
[04:07] <Rincewind> ubuntu installs a lot of trash that i dont want to be installed in the first place...
[04:07] <ixion> cp -R
[04:07] <Arrick> hey, if I copy a script into Notepad on windows, intending to transfer it to my ubuntu box, what type of file should I save it as?
[04:07] <ixion> no r
[04:07] <leumas> k
[04:07] <ixion> ups
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: you still around
[04:07] <ixion> it makes installation only one cd big and you know that all the other stuff u install is gonna be up to date
[04:07] <ixion> oops
[04:07] <boink> Rincewind: debian installs less, maybe that would be better.
[04:07] <ixion> hi guys: I cant get my sound working, looking in device manager though I can see its detected a number of alsa devices which fall under AC'97 Audio device. Going into preferences and sound I dont see anything listed under default sound card - any ideas where I start ???
[04:07] <k31th> Arrick: .sh
[04:08] <k31th> it wotn matter if windows cant read it
[04:08] <k31th> jesus.
[04:08] <Arrick> ok
[04:08] <chowdaryharsha> hi....how can i play .wmv format in linux
[04:08] <boink> mplayer
[04:08] <k31th> chowdaryharsha: w32codecs
[04:08] <Rincewind> boink, i'll check it out. ubuntu really dissapointed me with that last version.
[04:08] <k31th> win32codecs iirs
[04:08] <boink> but you need to install lot of the stuff yourself
[04:08] <k31th> iirc
[04:08] <k31th> google it.
[04:08] <boink> ubuntu for good the certain user
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[04:08] <leumas> vlc is easier
[04:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:08] <stefg> bagster: dappers 2.6.15 kernel is causing the trouble... A workaround could be: install breezy, dist-upgrade to dapper, but dont use the kernel the upgrade provided, by build your own one (possibly a 2.6.17) and use that on reboot. (/bad idea)
[04:08] <k31th> use automatix to isntsall
[04:08] <chowdaryharsha> k31th, how??? i dont know anything about this ...can u help me
[04:09] <Rincewind> boink, i guess you are right... i'll check out another distro then...
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> k31th: Bad idea
[04:09] <boink> but for some users, debian is still a good option
[04:09] <leumas> debian is too big
[04:09] <boink> the ideal distro is good for everyone
[04:09] <jolly-> Any ideas where I can find a wirlesss program that searching for base stations?
[04:09] <Arrick> god, here we go, hacing and wardriving
[04:09] <ixion> wlanconfig
[04:10] <jolly-> aha
[04:10] <Rincewind> I once had slackware and i enjoyed it. maybe i'll install it again
[04:10] <crashd> can anyone help me trying to change the screen res of the livecd installer
[04:10] <crashd> i didnt have this problem when i installed ubuntu 64 :|
[04:10] <chowdaryharsha> how can i play .wmv format in linux
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[04:10] <stefg> !restricted
[04:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:10] <ixion> mplayer u "$%T"^%T""
[04:10] <mrcuteo> anyone knows how to install PINE for ubuntu?
[04:10] <boink> for wma/wmv you need to install mplayer
[04:10] <leumas> chowdaryharsha: vlc
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> chowdaryharsha: restricted formats info is for you....
[04:11] <boink> and use the mplayer win32codecs
[04:11] <saloxin> chowdaryharsha: getautomatix.com
[04:11] <chowdaryharsha> Jack_Sparrow, where is it
[04:11] <boink> ubuntu can't include the codecs due to patent hassles :/
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> saloxin: BAd idea
[04:11] <saloxin> oh why?
[04:11] <leumas> ubuntu seems to be much easier than Fedora or Suse
[04:11] <boink> do a google search: mplayer ubuntu
[04:12] <leumas> less of a hassle, at least
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> chowdaryharsha: look up 10 lines to the links restricted formats
[04:12] <boink> also the dvd stuff is restricted too
[04:12] <stefg> !codecs > chowdaryharsha
[04:12] <mrcuteo> anyone knows how to install PINE for ubuntu?
[04:12] <derek> any body using BENQ S52?
[04:12] <boink> isn't that apt-get install pine ?
[04:12] <stefg> !info pine
[04:12] <ubotu> Package pine does not exist in any distro I know
[04:12] <leumas> !info pine
[04:12] <Arrick> how do I change the permissions so I can copy a file over winscp (ssh) to my /etc/network/if-up.d/ location?
[04:12] <stefg> uhoh
[04:12] <ubotu> Package pine does not exist in any distro I know
[04:13] <boink> it's that old :) heh
[04:13] <mrcuteo> boink : it didnt work
[04:13] <crashd> can anyone help?
[04:13] <stefg> !info mutt
[04:13] <boink> apt-get install mutt should work then
[04:13] <Arrick> it wont allow me to write into that location
[04:13] <ubotu> mutt: Text-based mailreader supporting MIME, GPG, PGP and threading. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.11-3ubuntu2.1 (dapper), package size 886 kB, installed size 4692 kB
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> saloxin: Automatix is the worst thing you can do to a Ubuntu system.  It works 95% of the time and only trashes 1 in 20 that then want this channel to fix it.. We send them to Automatix which provide no help
[04:13] <bagster> stefg: umm why the /bad idea?
[04:13] <mrcuteo> okie
[04:13] <boink> and there are .muttrc's which can act like pine
[04:13] <saloxin> Jack_Sparrow: ok. good to know. never failed me, but then again.
[04:13] <danfg> ubuntu keeps resetting my DNS server settings, /etc/resolv.conf is being cleaned up on every boot. i've tried removing write permissions on /etc/resolv.conf, but that doesn't help, what's going on?
[04:14] <boink> danfg: you using a router?
[04:14] <danfg> boink: yes, modem/router
[04:14] <boink> and is your card set to dhcp ?
[04:14] <danfg> boink: no it isn't!
[04:14] <boink> static ip number?
[04:14] <ixion> mplayer isnt in any of the repositories ???
[04:14] <danfg> boink: yep
[04:14] <stefg> bagster: you're building a new kernel on an unclean system... jumping from 2.6.12 to 2.6.17... That /can/ work but i have a somewha starnge feeling about that in my stomacht
[04:14] <boink> that's odd
[04:14] <danfg> boink: totally
[04:15] <boink> your /etc/resolv.conf should stay the same, no problem
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> saloxin: To be honest, I did test it.. It did work for me.. but we see way way to many people with odd problems after they need to do their next update and the ODD repos that were installed really can mess with a system
[04:15] <danfg> boink: it doesn't, if i reboot, the nameserver entries are removed
[04:15] <boink> and what happens to the /etc/resolv.conf ?
[04:15] <boink> empty?
[04:15] <Arrick> how do I change the permissions so I can copy a file over winscp (ssh) to my /etc/network/if-up.d/ location?
[04:15] <Arrick> it wont allow me to write into that location
[04:16] <danfg> boink: get's cleaned up, only the comment entries are there, no nameserver entries
[04:16] <bagster> stefg: fair enough. Might as well give it a try though - dont really stand to lose anything by doing it
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> saloxin: It does not take long for a person to learn to do what the script tries to do.
[04:16] <boink> hope it's not a bug :/
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Be sure to have a full backup...
[04:17] <stefg> bagster: you know how to package up a self-built kernel? http://ubuntustudio.com/wiki/index.php/Dapper:Vanilla_Kernel_With_Realtime_Preemption is helpful
[04:17] <danfg> boink: well, i hear a beep during boot, when X is loading, let me check the boot log brb
[04:17] <mribas> ribas2005
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> saloxin: If they try it and dont have a backup they have no place to go for help and no one else to blame.. well except for automatix
[04:17] <juggernaut1980> i got an error when i attempted to install mplayer in terminal and sinaptics
[04:17] <crashd> anyone got any ideas how to change resolution on the livecd installer, or jump to text mode install instead of booting the livecd?
[04:18] <bagster> stefg: not really  - as a said  pretty much a newbie to linux but very willing to get my hands  dirty
[04:18] <Hoxzer> how can I check directory size on commandline
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> crashd: screen res or 32 vs 64 bit system?
[04:18] <boink> df -h
[04:18] <stefg> bagster: _This_ is a really brilliant opportunity to do it :-)
[04:19] <bagster> stefg: will give it a shot.... Thanks for the help!
[04:19] <Hoxzer> boink: that shows drives size ...
[04:20] <juggernaut1980> i would like to play video files and dvd movies on my lappy here, but can't get mplayer.  i received two errors (one in sudo apt-get and the other in synaptics
[04:20] <codecaine> anybody know how to suppress mouse clicks on a laptop with a touchpad?
[04:21] <stefg> !repos > juggernaut1980
[04:21] <boink> !mplayer
[04:21] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[04:21] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[04:21] <stefg> !libdvdcss
[04:21] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:21] <Fungyo> anyone know if a monitor can cause issues installing ubuntu?
[04:21] <boink> !tell juggernaut1980 about mplayer
[04:21] <juggernaut1980> thanks guys!  :)
[04:21] <boink> good luck
[04:22] <stefg> Fungyo: yes it can... by providing nonsense-dpmi info
[04:23] <unfknblvbl> !themes
[04:23] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[04:23] <unfknblvbl> !changethemes
[04:23] <ubotu> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[04:23] <Fungyo> the problem i have is the setup goes incredibly slooow
[04:23] <unfknblvbl> ty ubotu
[04:24] <stefg> Fungyo: what hardware, how much RAM?
[04:24] <Fungyo> booting from the live cd or dvd i've tried both
[04:24] <dhq> i just installed win xp now my grub is gone is there a way to add kubuntu in my mbr
[04:24] <stefg> !grub
[04:24] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Fungyo: thankfully, you only need to go through the install once...
[04:24] <Fungyo> 256 ram 533ghz cpu and a 600mhz
[04:24] <Arrick> how do I change ownership for /etc/network/if-up.d/ so that I can transfer a file from one pc to the other over ssh, currently it wont allow me to write to the location
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> stefg: You are fast today
[04:25] <Arrick> or change permisions?
[04:25] <rmck> how to disable the sudo... I want to log in as root
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> rmck: Best if you dont...
[04:25] <crashd> does _anyone_ know if it's possible to change the res in the installer livecd
[04:25] <stefg> Fungyo: Better use xubuntu and the alternate CD for this hardware... Better fun that way. Gnome is sort of heavy for that machine
[04:25] <crashd> it's impossible to install it otherwise
[04:25] <rmck> lol
[04:26] <rmck> I think I just find it... Doc's come in handy when you read them
[04:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Fungyo: I would agree with stefg  on that
[04:26] <dhq> stefg: i tried no luck
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> crashd: Xres?
[04:27] <erUSUL> crashd: System>Pref.>Screen Resolution  ??
[04:27] <Astronouth7303> I got USB to shut up by setting /proc/sys/kernel/printk to "3 4 1 7" (changing the first field from 4 to 3)
[04:27] <Fungyo> ok... i'll give xubuntu a go... cheers for the advice
[04:27] <stefg> dhq: in which OS are you now?
[04:27] <monkster> hi
[04:27] <t0taln00b> hey
[04:27] <erUSUL> crashd: Crtl + Alt + '+' or '-' to increase decrease resolution
[04:28] <Fungyo> i have used ubuntu on several machines now, the developers have done well
[04:28] <monkster> What is the largest .tgz ubuntu lets you make? It seems I can't go above 4Gig for a single archive.
[04:28] <rmck> whats best way on ubuntu to debug Oops messages
[04:29] <Jack_Sparrow> monkster: what file system are you trying to save the file to... fat32 has a 4gig limit
[04:29] <lukaswayne9> I'm having a problem.  I have an iriver h320, and whenever I try to copy music to it, it's will copy perhaps 60 files or so, and then it will just stall.  It will refuse to copy and more music.  Does anyone have any ideas of why this might happen?
[04:29] <monkster> i was saving to an ext3 fs
[04:30] <monkster> oh, wait, what if my hard disk has an "msdos" label?
[04:30] <Jack_Sparrow> monkster: just checking... never tried to make one that big
[04:30] <monkster> maybe i will just make smaller ones till i figure it out
[04:31] <stefg> 4Gigs sounds vfat'ish... but maybe .tgz has its limits, too. Good opportunity to consult man tar
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> monkster: What does fstab show as the type?
[04:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup > jack_sparrow
[04:32] <monkster> umm, it is a usb disk
[04:32] <kyja> mm
[04:32] <kyja> !backup > kyja
[04:32] <stefg> monkster: these use vfat on a regular basis... so it's a filesystem limit.
[04:33] <monkster> stefg, thanks
[04:33] <monkster> that explains it, then
[04:34] <BeepAU> I get this error message 'Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate loadable module in module_path: "libindustrial.so"', and i believe it's stopping me from doing some things. Does anyone know how to fix it?
[04:34] <monkster> it was formatted as ext3 though
[04:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> BeepAU, hi mate
[04:35] <stefg> monkster: errr... flash disk larger than 4 Gigs??? Does this actaully exist?
[04:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> go to packages.ubuntu.com, and search the file
[04:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> install any packages that its in, then try running the app again
[04:35] <monkster> not a flash disk, ide to usb enclosure
[04:36] <stefg> Ah, ok... what does sudo fdisk -l tell about that drive
[04:36] <josh_> How can I remove XGL from my system? Im having a problem with steam loading on cedega, And reading a forum someone said if you remove XGL completly, it will run.
[04:36] <stefg> !xgl
[04:36] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:36] <nrdb> I have a Linux file server, it has a modem connected, I would like to be able to send faxes from this computer that where orginated from other computer on the LAN.  What would I need to setup to do this?
[04:36] <BeepAU> Kamping_Kaiser -- The thing is, i already have a copy of the file on my system @ /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/engines/ , but i still get that message
[04:37] <stefg> !info hylafax
[04:37] <monkster> I am afraid to paste here, but it says "Linux" ... id 83
[04:37] <ubotu> Package hylafax does not exist in any distro I know
[04:37] <epsi> How do I upgrade r1000 kernel module? Can I use apt-get to do that?
[04:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> BeepAU, file a abug on the application thats causing problems
[04:37] <stefg> monkster: 'nuff said :-) it's ext3 and possibly you're reaching a limit of tar
[04:38] <BeepAU> Kamping_Kaiser -- it's not just one app
[04:39] <BeepAU> i get it when trying to run epsxe, xmms, turmulous
[04:39] <monkster> ok, more research for me, i guess, thanks. I am going to make smaller tarballs in the meantime.
[04:39] <stefg> nrdb, see !info hylafax-server and !info hylafax-client
[04:39] <BeepAU> Kamping_Kaiser -- and thanks for the channel
[04:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> BeepAU, no problem :)
[04:39] <nrdb> stefg: thanks
[04:40] <BeepAU> Kamping_Kaiser -- also, xmms and turmulous run fine, but i'm having trouble with epsxe
[04:41] <josh_> !xgl
[04:41] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> BeepAU, then its probably a gtk2 application problem
[04:42] <BeepAU> Kamping_Kaiser -- ok, well thanks for your help.
[04:42] <Jack_Sparrow> stefg: What would the mount command be to create this in the fstab...   /dev/sda3       /media/mp3        ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1	
[04:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> BeepAU, np :|
[04:42] <brian_> anyone have crappy quality in vnc between two ubuntu machines ?
[04:42] <botxj> is it worthwhile one day to install your own linux from scratch?
[04:43] <lassegs> whooo. I thought i borked my ubuntu instsall. but im back. thank god
[04:43] <Jack_Sparrow> botxj: Sure if you have the time and want to learn lots...
[04:43] <botxj> i have the time
[04:43] <stefg> Jack_Sparrow: you have to edit /etc/fstab. a mount will not change your fstab
[04:43] <botxj> i want to learn
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> let me rephrase that... the mount command for that would be?
[04:44] <botxj> i just have one question, when installing stuff, are dependencies worse or better?
[04:44] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: btw it seems that there is actually Realtek inside but Asus webpages tell that it's Marvell Yukon.. :p
[04:44] <leumas> mount command for what?
[04:44] <codecaine> lol
[04:44] <FrankB> hey, I'm trying to install the nvidia driver, but it says to exit X server, I tried the sudo /etc/init.d/gmd stop command, but it says unknown command, anyone know what to do?
[04:44] <codecaine> man mount
[04:44] <codecaine> terminal
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: you up and running.?
[04:45] <leumas> hey, how do i set things to mount when i login?
[04:45] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: nope.. I think it's r1000 kernel module that isn't working
[04:45] <epsi> correctly
[04:45] <Ych> weird problem: i have 2 machines on my LAN, and i can ping the router from both, and i can ping remote internet adresses from both, but i cant ping one from the other, or ssh from one to the other
[04:45] <stefg> mount simply attaches a given raw-device to a folder (mount-point) in the file tree. It /can/ read parameters from fstab, but you can state them on the command line as well
[04:45] <FrankB> anyone?
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: I found this to try     noapic nolapic acpi=noirq (or acpi=off)   let me find the link
[04:46] <leumas> try kill instead
[04:46] <cynical> FrankB: its /etc/init.d/gdm not gmd
[04:46] <leumas> frankb
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=121200
[04:46] <FrankB> typo :P
[04:46] <NeilyBoy> woohoo
[04:46] <NeilyBoy> it worked!
[04:46] <FrankB> I tried gmd stop
[04:46] <cynical> FrankB: does sudo work with other commands?
[04:46] <FrankB> yeah
[04:46] <FrankB> (first time ever using linux btw)
[04:46] <stefg> Ych: do you call the machines by name or by IP?
[04:47] <cynical> FrankB: reboot and choose rescue mode from the grub options, then install the nvidia driver
[04:47] <cynical> FrankB: congrats :D
[04:47] <leumas> hey
[04:47] <FrankB> haha :D
[04:47] <leumas> guys
[04:47] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: I'll try that
[04:47] <Ych> stefg, i tried both
[04:47] <FrankB> Ok I'm gonna try
[04:47] <FrankB> brb :P
[04:47] <leumas> how do i make ubuntu mount things when i boot up?
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> stefg: thanks, having a bran fart morning, worked 12 hours yesterday and going back in an hour or so to finish up the networking for a customer
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> brain
[04:48] <Ych> Destination Host Unreachable
[04:48] <leumas> and then make an icon come up on the desktop
[04:49] <NeilyBoy> is there a way to change the login screen resolution?
[04:49] <stefg> Ych: you need to have openssh-server installed. But this looks more like a router setting glitch
[04:50] <Ych> stefg, i was able to ssh yesterday, but since i rebooted the remote machine they refuse to communicate with each other in any way
[04:51] <Ych> stefg, i havent done anything to the router, could it have changed itself?
[04:51] <ephemeros> hail \m/
[04:51] <Ych> stefg, now i cant even ping the router from this machine, but im still in the internet
[04:52] <stefg> Ych: So my el-cheapo router here needs a reset every 48h or so... it just gets slower and slower (crappy firmware)
[04:52] <Ych> thats very weird
[04:52] <botxj> Jack_Sparrow, i just have one question, when installing stuff, are dependencies worse or better?
[04:52] <Ych> ill just reboot this guy
[04:52] <BlueEagle> hmm.. ubotu tell ephemeros about de? :p
[04:52] <Jack_Sparrow> botxj: better or worse than what?
[04:52] <botxj> Jack_Sparrow, i'm talking about if you were to build your own linux
[04:52] <stefg> Ych: reset your router and see what happens
[04:53] <Jack_Sparrow> botxj: I would think worse...
[04:53] <ephemeros> BlueEagle: what to tell me me?
[04:53] <botxj> Jack_Sparrow, lol
[04:53] <amarokker> Hi, i am trying to setup an alias and put my htm/php files into a public_html directory. I created the alias file in /etc/apache2/conf.d/alias. but its still not working.
[04:53] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: So basicly I should try to disable ACPI from bios?
[04:53] <tim_> hi, im trying to build dependencies for a package "libhtml-tree-perl", and i get this error: dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed. Anyone know what to do?
[04:53] <BlueEagle> ephemeros: Just saying that "hail" is concidered german by me. :p
[04:53] <amarokker> Getting an authorization/403 error.
[04:54] <cynical> leumas: go to your configuration editor and in apps > nautilus > desktop, check volumes_visible
[04:54] <FrankB> right, that didnt work either
[04:54] <FrankB> :P
[04:54] <leumas> k
[04:54] <Jack_Sparrow> botxj: There are a lot of people working on Ubuntu and many distros as well.  If you just want to branch off and make minor changes to one of them you would have fewer problems, but starting from scratch, by yourself.. lots of work
[04:54] <pero> help
[04:54] <FrankB> how can I get to the map Desktop
[04:54] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: yes try it,
[04:54] <ephemeros> BlueEagle: yeah, mabye it is, but i'm far of that, just me and my friends use "hail" to salute ;)
[04:54] <FrankB> it's just cd Desktop right?
[04:54] <stefg> BlueEagle... wrong! that's an 'e'... it's just as in hail is no german word :-)
[04:54] <cynical> FrankB: yes
[04:55] <tim_> amarokker, you dont have to make an alias file for that. just put it in the httpd.conf. ie ScriptAlias /viewvc /usr/local/viewvc-1.0.1/bin/cgi/viewvc.cgi
[04:55] <harisund> Hello! Does anyone have any experience using UBuntu as a gatewa? I am using NAT and want to block access to file sharing on my local network. Anybody has a clue?
[04:55] <FrankB> how come that didnt work then :S
[04:55] <cynical> cd Desktop didnt work?
[04:55] <FrankB> no
[04:55] <botxj> Jack_Sparrow, of course i'm not talkign about making a distro, just my own personal OS just for one computer
[04:55] <Jack_Sparrow> People, it has been fun... Play nice.. I need to go to work.
[04:55] <ephemeros> stefg: but does exist the "hail" salute (with "a"), or just i am wrong?
[04:55] <cynical> try cd /home/"username"/Desktop
[04:55] <stefg> ephemeros: see you in #ubuntu-offtopic for further discussion :-)
[04:56] <FrankB> ctrl alt F1 brings me back to where I was right?
[04:56] <ephemeros> ok :D
[04:56] <Jack_Sparrow> botxj: Depends on how much tweaking you want to do.  I dont hve the time atm but we can chat in private another time about what you would like to accomplish
[04:56] <cynical> FrankB: yeah
[04:56] <FrankB> gonna try, thnx
[04:56] <botxj> aight Jack_Sparrow
[04:56] <harisund> anybody any clue?
[04:56] <Davo_Dinkum> What does it mean when you open you laptop (it was turned on, just the screen was locked) and the display doesn't turn on? I had to hold down the power button to get it to turn off. Was it a KP?
[04:56] <leumas> cynical, could you elaborate?
[04:56] <tim_> hi, im trying to build dependencies for a package "libhtml-tree-perl", and i get this error: dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed. Anyone know what to do?
[04:57] <Bassetts> what would you think if your hard drive was making a sort of grasshopper noise very high pitched but seatools says its all ok?
[04:57] <sureshot> hey all just got an update amorak now plays mp3s neet
[04:58] <leumas> how do i get to the configuration editor?
[04:58] <RMorris84> im getting an error while backing up my home directory, it says "operatino no permitted" and i keep having to push skip im in the 4000s of 27000 i cant keep doing this
[04:58] <RMorris84> "operation not permitted"
[04:58] <harisund> Hello! Does anyone have any experience using UBuntu as a gatewa? I am using NAT and want to block access to file sharing on my local network. Anybody has a clue?
[04:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Bassetts: the head seek does sound a liitle like a squeek... but make a backup asap
[04:58] <tim_> Bassetts, software cant diagnose physical problems with a drive. something's not going as intended inside the mechanical parts there
[04:58] <epsi> Jack_Sparrow: sigh... there weren't any ACPI related options in bios
[04:58] <Bassetts> gah as i suspected =(
[04:59] <Bassetts> anyone know if seagate send out a drive before you send your drive back?
[04:59] <Jack_Sparrow> epsi: try the grub boot options I gave you... gotta run, good luck
[04:59] <Audimage> how do i rename a file in the terminal? i named xorg.conf_bakcup accidentally i'd like to change it to xorg.conf_backup
[04:59] <Jassovissovik> Audimage: "mv FILENAME TARGETFILENAME"
[05:00] <harisund> clear
[05:00] <Jassovissovik> you've effectivelt moving it
[05:00] <sureshot> yes if under warenty but you have to secure it with a credit card  you send the old one back when you get the new one and your card will not be charged
[05:00] <FrankB> sigh
[05:00] <Audimage> thanks
[05:00] <FrankB> still not working :(
[05:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Bassetts: most will take your credit card number and not charge it unless the drive you send in is not received in 30 days or so..
[05:00] <Jassovissovik> Audimage - if you're in /etc/X11 you may require sudo
[05:00] <Bassetts> thanks Jack_Sparrow
[05:00] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[05:01] <codecaine> how can you save all the test from a ls command to a file?
[05:01] <NeilyBoy> Hi. How do I make a program the default program to play music?
[05:01] <leumas> where is the configuration editor?!
[05:01] <leumas> never mind :)
[05:01] <cynical> leumas: oh yeah sorry, just run gconf in a terminal
[05:02] <leumas> it's already checked
[05:02] <FrankB> cynical it didnt work
[05:02] <cynical> FrankB: lol thats impossible
[05:02] <amarokker> tim_: we are talking about apache2, right?
[05:02] <guitarro> hola
[05:02] <FrankB> I rebooted
[05:03] <FrankB> went into recovery mode
[05:03] <guitarro> hey
[05:03] <cynical> FrankB: there is something seriously wrong with your ubuntu install if you dont have a desktop -_-
[05:03] <tim_> amarokker, indeed
[05:03] <FrankB> I can go to desktop in terminal
[05:03] <cynical> FrankB: then what cant you do?
[05:03] <FrankB> shut down X server
[05:03] <tim_> amarokker, also, are you using a symlink in that alias?
[05:03] <forevertheuni> hello
[05:03] <pty> NeilyBoy: right click a file of the type (ie mp3) and go to properties and select it under the 'open with' tab
[05:03] <forevertheuni> my fglrx doesn't work
[05:03] <guitarro> any one fromm spain?
[05:03] <cynical> FrankB: I had that problem once but I'm not sure what I did to fix it. I do know what you can do that will alleviate all this hassle
[05:03] <forevertheuni> I don't have direct rendering
[05:03] <amarokker> i am not too familiar with apache yet. and haven't read much of the documentation. So i suppose cp-pasting "ScriptAlias /viewvc /usr/local/viewvc-1.0.1/bin/cgi/viewvc.cgi" in the httpd.conf will do the job?
[05:04] <NeilyBoy> pty is there another way to do it? i don't have every filetype known to man
[05:04] <amarokker> yeah tim_
[05:04] <FrankB> reinstall?
[05:04] <FrankB> go back to windows? :P
[05:04] <cynical> FrankB: no
[05:04] <forevertheuni> I installed everything the way it should I even tried to build a package from the ati.run file
[05:04] <tim_> amarokker, ahh. makes sense why theres an auth problem. hold on lemme look something up for you
[05:04] <cynical> FrankB: type 'wget http://www.albertomilone.eu/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.4.2-1ubuntu10_all.deb'
[05:04] <forevertheuni> (for that I have a ABI version mismatch or something like that
[05:05] <sureshot> !nvidia
[05:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:05] <cynical> FrankB: then 'sudo dpkg -i envy_0.4.2-1ubuntu10_all.deb'
[05:05] <guitarro> my windows died today
[05:05] <botxj> what does the -i in dpkg do?
[05:05] <josh_> is there anyways to uninstall something ive installed using "apt-get"?
[05:05] <forevertheuni> (II) fglrx(0): Acceleration enabled
[05:05] <forevertheuni> (II) fglrx(0): Direct rendering disabled
[05:05] <cbx33> help.ubuntu.com appears down
[05:05] <cynical> FrankB: and finally type 'envy' and the script will automatically install nvidia drivers for you
[05:05] <cynical> botxj: it stands for 'install'
[05:05] <botxj> cynical, i'm so stupid
[05:06] <pty> NeilyBoy: not sure, unfortunately.  i tend to open em by dragging them into the player (i use quod libet)
[05:06] <cynical> botxj: lol no worries, I didnt know it either when I first heard of it
[05:06] <kender> hello
[05:07] <Frostbite> I've just installed ubuntu desktop and eth0 (vr/via rhine) is giving me VERY high packet loss - maybe 98%.  Good cable, NIC, switch.  Any ideas?
[05:07] <NeilyBoy> pty, <3 quod libet.  i'm trying to open a .pls from a website. i guess i'll have to save it first to change which program it opens with
[05:07] <kender> after loading ppp_generic and all similar, no ppp0 interface apear, any idea why it can be?
[05:07] <kender> *appear
[05:07] <boink> Neilyboy: xmms opens up pls files just fine
[05:08] <tim_> amarokker, do you have a directory entry in the httpd.conf?
[05:08] <boink> there could be other software which open up pls files too. pls is from shoutcast
[05:08] <stefg> vlc does it
[05:09] <FrankB> I think it's almost working! :P
[05:09] <FrankB> I have to install a kernel? ^^
[05:09] <qurgh> I installed packages from a 3rd party source, and now my X is messed up, is there a way to restore the orginal packages that were installed from the CD without wiping the whole system and starting again?
[05:09] <amarokker> tim_: here's the apache.conf file. am not too sure what I should be looking for- the alias directive?
[05:09] <amarokker> http://rafb.net/paste/results/rIZ3tJ44.html
[05:10] <forevertheuni> hi..I don't have direct rendering
[05:10] <forevertheuni> I have fglrx loaded
[05:10] <forevertheuni> I have Load "glx" I have Load "dri" and section dri with 0666
[05:10] <FrankB> cynical?
[05:10] <tim_> amarokker, you installed the ubuntu package for apache2?
[05:10] <tim_> from apt?
[05:11] <stefg> qurgh: get a clean /etc/apt/sources.list again and sudo apt-get update first. Then an sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg might help
[05:11] <qurgh> stefg: ok, I'll try that
[05:11] <FrankB> cynical: will this guide do the trick? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56835
[05:11] <tim_> well, anyway, amarokker there should be another conf file in there. called httpd.conf
[05:12] <amarokker> tim_: yeah- did it exactly as it is on the ubuntufaq. but for some reason, the php5 parser won't work. so had to install back and forth between apache and apache2 with different combinations (obviously not knowing what I was doing) till i got it to work.
[05:12] <amarokker> am using it only to learn some php.
[05:12] <MNGRVE> i have a slight problem. I had some NTFS drives that needed formatting, and now they're on FAT32, and i can access them, but only as root. how do i change the permissions?
[05:12] <amarokker> tim_: yeah. there is- and there's nothing inside it.
[05:12] <amarokker> just a few commented lines.
[05:12] <MNGRVE> preferably without chmod
[05:12] <tim_> amarokker, thats fine. i think its blank by default
[05:13] <RMorris84> how do i back up my home directory?
[05:13] <tim_> ok, im going to pastebin a file that you should use. of course, replace all the specific info with yours.
[05:13] <Mikel0>  anybody manage to print on xerorx printers?
[05:13] <Samuli^> MNGRVE, fat32 doesn't support normal file permissions. You need to use the umask in fstab.
[05:13] <FrankB> question: how do I get a kernel? :P
[05:13] <stefg> MNGRVE: vfat doesn't support permissions, so you've got to mount them with a file mask in /etc/fstab
[05:13] <qurgh> stefg: hmm, that didn't download anything and it just installed over the same version I have. I tried to install Xgl, but now all my windows don't render correctly. So I took it out, removed xserver-org/ubuntu-desktop and reinstalled them, but that didn't fix it
[05:13] <MNGRVE> how do i do that?
[05:14] <Samuli^> MNGRVE, you probably have the umask line in fstab already so: check it up with gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[05:14] <stefg> qurgh: do sudo apt-get clean, to get the bad packs out of the cache
[05:14] <giga> hi
[05:14] <Seveas> hi giga
[05:14] <amarokker> tim_: ok.
[05:14] <qurgh> stefg: ok, I ran that, but it didn't give me any output, is that normal?
[05:14] <bart_> Hi, can someone help me with installing an ATI Radeon X1600 pro??
[05:14] <RMorris84> this room has gone to hell...
[05:14] <giga> Is there such thing as a switch that can disable the internet connection with a key (hardware)
[05:14] <NeilyBoy> rythembox and quodlibet are unable to play this radio station i'm trying to play. help?
[05:15] <Samuli^> MNGRVE, umask works just like chmod, only you don't give rights with, you take them away. So umask = 0000 will grant all rights for everyone
[05:15] <Seveas> !someone > bart_
[05:15] <Seveas> !ati > bart_
[05:15] <MNGRVE> thanks :D
[05:15] <Koffa> 'E: Invalid Release file, no entry for main/binary-i368/Packages' when I try to debootstrap --arch i386 dapper /foo/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[05:15] <amarokker> tim_: the gentoo httpd/apache conf files are really easy to follow- i remember getting past by it without any help and making it work on the first go.
[05:15] <bart_> oeeehhh, ubotu is nog very smart :p
[05:15] <Seveas> Koffa, 368 vs 386..
[05:15] <tim_> amarokker, go here http://rafb.net/paste/results/fHJcK598.html
[05:15] <MNGRVE> wait
[05:15] <Seveas> make sure you do 386 
[05:15] <MNGRVE> is it 000 or 0000
[05:16] <MNGRVE> ?
[05:16] <Koffa> Seveas: thanks, too obvious :D
[05:16] <lucasvo> I want to install ubuntu dapper on my notebook. However when booting up the live cd, I get the following error: Disabling IRQ 15
[05:16] <qurgh> stefg: is there a way to remove packages from sources that are no longer listed?
[05:16] <amarokker> THANkS. heh. whew. left out the k.
[05:16] <cynical> FrankB: just do what I said, its easier
[05:16] <giga> Is there such thing as a switch that can disable the internet connection with a key (hardware)
[05:16] <bart_> There must be a way to install a ATI Radeon X1600 pro in ubuntu, why is there nobody who can tell me how to do that :S ?????????
[05:17] <Ych> stefg,
[05:17] <Seveas> bart_, ubotu sent you the hints
[05:17] <stefg> qurgh: you did it already by removing the bad entries and updating again
[05:17] <MNGRVE> giga, you could make one
[05:17] <Ych> stefg, i rebooted this machine and the router, but no change at all
[05:17] <pc22> shana tova
[05:17] <qurgh> stefg: hmm, but it didn't uninstall anything
[05:17] <MNGRVE> take an rj45 coupler and add a switch to it
[05:17] <stefg> qurgh: no, that's a separate procedure
[05:18] <Samuli^> MNGRVE, both will probably work. the first 0 is for the bonus-bits. I'm not quite sure what their function is to be honest :)
[05:18] <tim_> amarokker, you following that example?
[05:18] <qurgh> stefg: so how do I get it to actually uninstall anything that is no longer in the apt database?
[05:18] <MNGRVE> ha, k. restarting now
[05:18] <MNGRVE> wait, what is fstab for anyway?
[05:18] <BeepAU> anyone use epsxe? i'm getting this error message when i try to play a game.  - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24520
[05:18] <Samuli^> MNGRVE, to automatically mount partitions
[05:18] <amarokker> tim_: yeah, will let you know in a bit whether it works.
[05:18] <Seveas> MNGRVE, File System TABle
[05:18] <MNGRVE> sweet! i've been looking for that
[05:19] <Seveas> it specifies where to mount disks
[05:19] <MNGRVE> thanks
[05:19] <tim_> amarokker, gl
[05:19] <bart_> Someone pleasee help me
[05:20] <Seveas> bart_, did you even LOOK at ubotus hints?
[05:20] <bart_> Yes
[05:20] <Rookie-> whats your prob bart
[05:20] <bart_> But it keep loading mesa
[05:20] <bart_> They tried to help me in the dutch ubuntu channel
[05:20] <bart_> but they don' t know the problem
[05:21] <the_y_man> omfg... www.mldesigners.com just got DEFACED!
[05:21] <bart_> I have tried everything :(
[05:21] <Seveas> bart_, neither do we because you don't give *any* information.
[05:21] <MNGRVE> they didn't come up on the desktop...
[05:21] <bart_> haha ok: I want to install the ATI Radeon X1600 pro drivers in ubuntu for gaming and dualscreen support
[05:21] <stefg> qurgh: you can apt-get remove xserver-xorg and after that reinstall it again... but that's rude. It's possible, but I never needed that, because being a wise guy i keep backups before doing something potentially harmful :-)
[05:21] <Samuli^> MNGRVE, do you have the partition on /media?
[05:21] <MNGRVE> yup
[05:22] <bart_> They told me to use the ati drivers from there site
[05:22] <bart_> because they have better support for X series
[05:22] <Samuli^> MNGRVE, make symbolic link to that folder for desktop.
[05:22] <Seveas> bart_, if you do that you will have to remove the restricted modules or disable fglrx from it
[05:22] <MNGRVE> how do i do that?
[05:22] <qurgh> stefg: hehe, yeah, I should have backed it up, but oh well. I guess I'll just have to backup my /home and reinstall. Thanks for the help, at least I know I have tried everything.
[05:22] <MNGRVE> (sorry, i just got ubuntu today)
[05:22] <Seveas> bart_, follow the instructions on the wiki
[05:22] <bart_> I have blacklisted fglrx
[05:22] <Seveas> that's not enough
[05:23] <stefg> qurgh: read through the apt-howto... it's in there
[05:23] <Seveas> and very WRONG even
[05:23] <stefg> !apt
[05:23] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:23] <bart_> why?
[05:23] <bart_> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_new_8.29.6_drivers_in_Ubuntu_Dapper_Manually
[05:23] <Seveas> bart_, use the *ubuntu* wiki
[05:23] <bart_> yes
[05:23] <Seveas> not some 3rd party one
[05:23] <bart_> But the ubuntu isn' t working at all
[05:23] <Baughn> capr
[05:24] <proMark_> pr
[05:24] <bart_> I do everything they say
[05:24] <rob> no! get it off!
[05:24] <bart_> then I use: fglrxinfo
[05:24] <Samuli^> MNGRVE, right click on desktop, create launcher and from there directory. I think
[05:24] <Mikel0> i'm trying to print on xerox workcenter 412? has anyone here tried yet?
[05:24] <qurgh> stefg: ok, thanks again :)
[05:24] <bart_> and still is mesa loaded
[05:25] <Seveas> bart_, then you forgot something
[05:25] <Davo_Dinkum> What's the name of the package that covers up the loading screen messages with a nice picture?
[05:25] <MNGRVE> how do i make a symbolic link?
[05:25] <bart_> Saveas, I did eveything the same as the one who helped me
[05:25] <stefg> !info uspalsh
[05:25] <ubotu> Package uspalsh does not exist in any distro I know
[05:25] <lastnode> !java
[05:25] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:25] <stefg> !info usplash
[05:25] <ubotu> usplash: Userspace bootsplash utility. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2-4 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 196 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 powerpc sparc ia64 hppa)
[05:25] <bart_> But we found an error in uhm, Bus something
[05:25] <bart_> in my log
[05:25] <Samuli^> MNGRVE, in terminal: ln -s where/do/you/want/it/to/point /where/to/make/it
[05:26] <MNGRVE> thanks
[05:26] <Seveas> "bus something"....
[05:26] <bart_> (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found
[05:26] <bart_> Is that a problem?
[05:26] <Seveas> iyes
[05:26] <Samuli^> MNGRVE, but use the right click on desktop method. It's nice.
[05:26] <bart_> next it says:
[05:26] <Seveas> it means your xorg.conf is bad
[05:26] <bart_> (--) Chipset RADEON X1600 Series (RV530 71C2) found
[05:26] <Mikel0> it's listed among the compatible printers here http://cups.org/ppd.php?L      does this mean i should give up?
[05:26] <MNGRVE> i couldn't see anything to do that on the desktop
[05:26] <bart_> ok, how can I fix my xorg.conf
[05:27] <MNGRVE> create launcher?
[05:27] <Samuli^> MNGRVE, It's on the create launcher, I think. I haven't used it myself though.
[05:27] <Seveas> bart_, the same way as you broke it 
[05:27] <MNGRVE> someone tell bart about the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg thing
[05:28] <bart_> I made it the same as the person who installed ATI card too
[05:28] <Seveas> MNGRVE, you just did ;)
[05:28] <bintut> hello all..
[05:28] <MNGRVE> or was it configure?
[05:28] <Mikel0> it's listed among the compatible printers here http://cups.org/ppd.php?L      does this mean i should give up?
[05:28] <bart_> Is there a way to reset it all?
[05:28] <Seveas> bart_, that is about the stupidest thing to do...
[05:28] <Seveas> bart_, MNGRVE just gave the reset command
[05:28] <Mikel0> i'm trying to print on xerox workcenter 412? has anyone here tried yet?
[05:28] <bart_> reset command?
[05:28] <MNGRVE> bart_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
 someone tell bart about the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg thing
[05:28] <Seveas> that
[05:29] <MNGRVE> nifty little wizard for you
[05:29] <bobz> any one know why- i use ts /dev/audio/ ET uses /dev/dsp when i have ts opened no sound in et but when i close its - et works with sound
[05:29] <bart_> ok lets try
[05:29] <bart_> *again
[05:29] <asdx> does the human theme uses a special gtk engine?
[05:30] <asdx> or is just svg?
[05:30] <Seveas> asdx, a modified clearlooks
[05:30] <asdx> cairo based?
[05:30] <bart_> Must I choose vesa and change it, or can I choose fglrx directly?
[05:30] <Seveas> choose fglrx
[05:30] <Hoxzer> tar -cvpzf backup.tgz backup/ --exclude=/backup/.metacity <-metacity still gets copied to archieve, what am I doing wrong?
[05:30] <MNGRVE> how do i fix my fstab?
[05:30] <Seveas> MNGRVE, what's broken?
[05:30] <bart_> Uhm can I just press enter, because I don' t know my bus identifier
[05:31] <Seveas> bart_, yes you can
[05:31] <Farrier> Question: how do I mount a CD in Ubuntu? Rebooting starts with it mounted, but inserting does nothing. "mount /media/cdrom0" creates a mount process that cannot be killed even by "sudo kill -9 PID", so I have to reboot to kill it.
[05:31] <MNGRVE> well, i was trying to make it so that i could write to my fat32 partitions
[05:31] <MNGRVE> and i edited fstab
[05:31] <bart_> Ok, that's done
[05:31] <MNGRVE> and now my files are gone
[05:32] <Seveas> Farrier, then the cd or drive might be broken
[05:32] <MNGRVE> so i do not think the drives are mounting
[05:32] <Farrier> Seveas: CD works fine if disk is in when booting.
[05:32] <bart_> And now I don' t know what to do, because if I reboot. It isn' t working...
[05:32] <Seveas> MNGRVE, pastebin the /etc/fstab and the output of sudo fdisk -l
[05:32] <Max_Might> i just installed phpmyadin and when i try to login it says "The configuration file now needs a secret passphrase (blowfish_secret)."
[05:32] <Hoxzer>  Eh :E
[05:32] <Hoxzer> GUYYS :D
[05:32] <Samuli^> MNGRVE, cat /etc/fstab -> pastebin
[05:32] <MNGRVE> two seconds, going to try mounting manually first
[05:32] <reptyle> Hoxzer, the --exclude is a pattern, since your prefacing it with "/" none of the files in your backup selection will match because they all start with backup/
[05:33] <Seveas> Max_Might, then edit the config file 
[05:33] <Farrier> Seveas: CD also works fine for automount under windows (dual boot machine).
[05:33] <rod> Hi, I have a ext2 usbdisc which gets detected automaticly. When I want to change rights it says Read Only while in MTAB it say RW... What's going one?
[05:33] <lastnode> why cant i install sun-java5-bin, i have multiverse enabled
[05:33] <Davo_Dinkum> Bye all.
[05:33] <MNGRVE> yeah, i can mount my files manually and they're there
[05:33] <Seveas> Farrier, then I don't know what's wrong -- any clues from /var/log/syslog?
[05:33] <Hoxzer> reptyle: yes ... I noticed that
[05:33] <bart_> Seveas, the wiki says if I reboot everything is done but if I do that it is still not working
[05:33] <MNGRVE> so i haven't formatted, thank god :D
[05:33] <Seveas> lastnode, which architecture?
[05:33] <lastnode> Seveas, i386
[05:33] <Max_Might> seveas, where is the PMA conf file ?
[05:34] <Seveas> bart_, then you did something else wrong
[05:34] <bobz> any one know why- i use ts /dev/audio/ ET uses /dev/dsp when i have ts opened no sound in et but when i close its - et works with sound
[05:34] <Seveas> lastnode, breezy?
[05:34] <Hoxzer> reptyle: in the real string there is username in front of it (home directory)
[05:34] <Samuli^> MNGRVE, mount -a mount's everything on your fstab without noauto option.
[05:34] <bart_> -_-
[05:34] <lastnode> Seveas, dapper, with all the latest updates
[05:34] <linux__alien> huh...changed the fonts in Ubuntu and now it looks awesome coz i am using 1280  * 1024 resolution in my 15 inches monitor
[05:34] <mtholdenss> came up with some errors after i left it for a while something about /bin/sh: .... doh i cant remember what it was, i wrote it in here but forgot i wasnt connected to the net :p
[05:34] <bart_> yes but I did eveything that the wiki says
[05:34] <mtholdenss> edgy help?
[05:34] <rod> hee Seveas ^^ druk bezig zie ik
[05:34] <Seveas> lastnode, hmm, apt-get update doesn't help? 
[05:34] <Seveas> lastnode, pastebin your sources.list
[05:34] <lastnode> Seveas, not really mate. dunno what's wrong.
[05:34] <Seveas> rod, this channel is english only
[05:34] <lastnode> Seveas, original sources.list with everything enabled
[05:34] <bart_> So the wiki shit is not working for my ATI
[05:35] <Seveas> lastnode, pastebin it anyway
[05:35] <rod> Seveas, I beg you pardon.
[05:35] <lastnode> Seveas, does xgl have a problem with java? because those repos are enabled
[05:35] <Seveas> lastnode, not that I know of
[05:36] <bart_> ...
[05:36] <reptyle> Hoxzer, tar czvf /path/to/backup.tgz --exclude home/userdir/.metacity home/userdir
[05:36] <josh_> Hi, how do i copy folders? I forgot :P
[05:36] <MNGRVE> cp
[05:36] <josh_> thanks
[05:36] <josh_> :P
[05:36] <MNGRVE> :D
[05:36] <janbanan> Anyone using kiba-dock?
[05:36] <lastnode> Seveas, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24523
[05:36] <Seveas> josh_, actually, you need cp -r
[05:37] <AMD> which kernel has Edgy Eft Knot 3?
[05:37] <lastnode> cp -R iirc, -r is not a valid flag?
[05:37] <francisco> hello all
[05:37] <Seveas> AMD, 2.6.17-something
[05:37] <lastnode> AMD, #ubuntu+1 for edgy questions please
[05:37] <francisco> how can I play wmv files in ubuntu?
[05:37] <Seveas> !wmv > francisco
[05:37] <Seveas> lastnode, both work
[05:37] <Seveas>       -R, -r, --recursive
[05:37] <Seveas>               copy directories recursively
[05:37] <MNGRVE> franciso, install vlc or mplayer
[05:38] <lastnode> Seveas, my bad. saw the sources.list?
[05:38] <Seveas> lastnode, and you only enabled multiverse for backports
[05:38] <lab4rn4> hey everyone, I just installed the new version of ubuntu by downloading the alternate install CD and though it worked beautifully, it never asked me for a username, it did ask me for a password but not for a username, so now i can't log in to my new installation, any ideas???
[05:38] <xoops> hi
[05:38] <xoops> need help
[05:39] <erUSUL> lab4rn4: maybe you did an oem install?
[05:39] <lastnode> Seveas, right, i thought i just had to uncomment. my bad.
[05:39] <Xk2c_> anyone knwos what these errors in ~/.xsessions-errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24524 mean?
[05:39] <lab4rn4> yup, didn't know what that meant...
[05:39] <Xk2c_> the user does not get system sounds
[05:39] <AMD> has Edgy Eft Knot 3 the Jmicron-AHCI Kernel patch?
[05:39] <lab4rn4> what should I do then??
[05:40] <Tu13es> what's a good swap partition size?
[05:40] <Tu13es> I've got 2gb RAM.
[05:40] <czer323> lab4rn4> I did the same thign the other day.  I went back and did a regular text installation.
[05:40] <Seveas> lab4rn4, the username in that case is oem
[05:40] <Seveas> but you might want to reinstall without oem option
[05:40] <NeilyBoy> okay. how do i take a tar.gz and extract it to /opt/firefox
[05:40] <NeilyBoy> ?
[05:40] <marianet> hello, somebody has installed quake game at ubuntu?
[05:40] <Samuli^> Tu13es, 1-2GB would be good.
[05:40] <czer323> lab4rn> as of right now you have no interface though, so, it's kinda sucky.  Just reinstall.
[05:40] <Tu13es> Samuli^: thanks :)
[05:40] <Triangle> Anybody can help me ,my system has no sound
[05:40] <Jowi> Tu13es: depends on who you ask. I never needed more than 512 MB. some say 1-2 GB for a setup like yours
[05:40] <lab4rn4> oh great thanks both great channel ;)
[05:40] <lab4rn4> c-ya
[05:40] <erUSUL> lab4rn4: oem is the default username
[05:40] <stefg> !sound > Triangle
[05:41] <Tu13es> Samuli^: swap partition before or after the ext3 partition?
[05:41] <Xk2c_> !sound > Xk2c_
[05:42] <Samuli^> Tu13es, Does it matter? If you're nitty about it I think the end of the HDD is physically at the start and fastest.
[05:42] <Samuli^> Tu13es, at least that's how it is in windows. But really I'm not sure and not believe there's much difference anyways.
[05:42] <Samuli^> don't
[05:43] <Tu13es> cool, thanks :)
[05:44] <MNGRVE> what does the nls= entry mean in fstab?
[05:44] <czer323> Samuli^> If memory is working... the fastest part is the outside edge of the platter.  I forget if that's considered beginning or end of the drive though.  I think it's beginning.
[05:47] <MNGRVE> hey
[05:47] <MNGRVE> uh
[05:47] <MNGRVE> can anyone help me with something about fstab?
[05:47] <Samuli^> czer323, that's the end in windows at least.
[05:47] <Hoxzer> reptyle: still not succes
[05:48] <Samuli^> MNGRVE, did you paste your fstab into pastebin?
[05:48] <reptyle> Hoxzer, then you need to !pastebin exactly what your getting.
[05:49] <Hoxzer> reptyle: how can I paste non craphically?
[05:49] <reptyle> !pastebin > Hoxzer
[05:49] <Hoxzer> reptyle: ... eh I know what pastebin is
[05:49] <Hoxzer> problems is I dunno how to cut  and paste without x
[05:49] <reptyle> Hoxzer, select the text with the left mouse button, switch to browser, paste by pressing middle mouse button.
[05:50] <reptyle> ahh
[05:50] <Hoxzer> reptyle: :D I'm in console
[05:50] <Answe1> whoami
[05:50] <reptyle> Hoxzer, do it in an xterm.
[05:50] <reptyle> :)
[05:51] <Hoxzer> reptyle: reason why I am backing up thigs is because something broke gdm and I have no idea what it was, no errors in logfiles ... and I dont recieve any help
[05:51] <Xk2c_> !pastebin > Xk2c_
[05:51] <Farrier> Hr - are CDs mounted noexec by default?
[05:52] <_andrew__> h
[05:52] <reptyle> Hoxzer, there are errors probably in you /var/log/Xorg.0.log, or gdm is not being called on startup.
[05:52] <MNGRVE> Samuli^: what do you mean paste your fstab into pastebin?
[05:52] <Hoxzer> reptyle: as I said there is no erros not even warning in logfiles
[05:53] <reptyle> Hoxzer, if you get a blue screen (terminal window) saying... gdm failed to start would you like to see logs to diagnose the problem, gdm is starting.
[05:53] <MNGRVE> !pastebin
[05:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:53] <_andrew__> i cant paste into my paste bin
[05:53] <Samuli^> MNGRVE, type cat /etc/fstab and paste the output there.
[05:53] <Hoxzer> reptyle: x manages to load but gdm fails after login
[05:53] <matahari> hi
[05:53] <ubuntu1> HI
[05:54] <Hoxzer> reptyle: btw, if you manage to find my thread in ubuntuforums there is my xorg.conf and logfile
[05:54] <reptyle> Hoxzer, then the errors should be in .xsession-errors in the users home directory.
[05:54] <matahari> i wanted to ask you whcich kernel is in the edgy eft knot 3 uses
[05:54] <ubuntu> HI
[05:54] <ubuntu> <-----suse user
[05:54] <xoops> anyone here who can help me to fix an problem with teamspaek
[05:54] <unfknblvbl> !rar
[05:54] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[05:54] <xoops> speak
[05:54] <reptyle> Hoxzer, but that wasn't what I wanted to ask.. why don't you want to backup your .metacity configuration directory?
[05:54] <Jaak_> I have a sort of bug report on Rythmbox, where do i go?
[05:55] <jatt> !malone
[05:55] <boink> !bug
[05:55] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[05:55] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[05:55] <MNGRVE> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[05:55] <MNGRVE> #
[05:55] <MNGRVE> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[05:55] <MNGRVE> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[05:55] <MNGRVE> /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[05:55] <MNGRVE> /dev/hda5       /media/hda5     vfat    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0    1
[05:55] <MNGRVE> /dev/hda6       /media/hda6     vfat    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0    1
[05:55] <MNGRVE> /dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1/dev/hda3       none            swap    sw              0       0
[05:55] <MNGRVE> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[05:55] <MNGRVE> like that? :S
[05:55] <Samuli^> MNGRVE, I said paste it THERE not HERE
[05:55] <jatt> ugh
[05:55] <MNGRVE> ha, sorry everyone....
[05:55] <boink> don't paste here, pretty please
[05:55] <Hoxzer> reptyle: there are 3 lines And they dont seem like erros
[05:55] <Samuli^> pretty, pretty please.
[05:55] <Samuli^> :D
[05:56] <Farrier> Jaak_: googl rhythmbox, ten on the project page, look for a link like "feedback"
[05:56] <Farrier> google*, then*
[05:56] <boink> !tell Jaak_ about bug
[05:56] <matahari> does anyone of you know which kernel is inside edgy eft?
[05:56] <ubuntu> [smart] 
[05:56] <ubuntu> name=The Smart Package Manager project (SUSE_Linux_10.1)
[05:56] <ubuntu> type=rpm-md
[05:56] <ubuntu> baseurl=http://software.opensuse.org/download/smart/SUSE_Linux_10.1/
[05:56] <ubuntu> gpgcheck=1
[05:56] <ubuntu> gpgkey=http://software.opensuse.org/openSUSE-Build-Service.asc
[05:56] <ubuntu> enabled=1
[05:56] <Samuli^> MNGRVE, I don't see any problems with that.
[05:57] <MNGRVE> what does nls= mean?
[05:57] <reptyle> Hoxzer, why don't you want to backup the .metacity config directory?
[05:57] <MNGRVE> the internet will not tell me :(
[05:57] <MNGRVE> bart_, did it work?
[05:57] <ubuntu> enabled=1
[05:57] <bart_> No, I fount this in my log
[05:57] <bart_> (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENOMEM"
[05:57] <bart_> (EE) fglrx(0): cannot init AGP
[05:58] <MNGRVE> hmm
[05:58] <bart_> After doing everything right
[05:58] <Outerlimit> I'm having problems running FrostWire.... I installed it using the dpkg with the .deb.  It keeps telling me that I need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x
[05:58] <Outerlimit> if i do java -version, i have 1.4.2
[05:58] <xoops> exit
[05:58] <Hoxzer> reptyle: I dont feel need for it
[05:59] <bart_> The driver supports my card, but it doesn't work xD
[05:59] <reptyle> Hoxzer, sudo -s ; cd /; tar czvf backup.tgz --exclude home/userdir/.metacity home
[06:00] <bart_> MNGRVE: My xorg.conf is ok: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24526
[06:00] <Farrier> Trying to install a program it asks for "libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2" - any idea where I can get this?
[06:00] <reptyle> Hoxzer, or if you prefer not to backup any .metacity directory anywhere in the selection
[06:00] <reptyle> Hoxzer, sudo -s ; cd /; tar czvf backup.tgz --exclude .metacity home
[06:00] <Samuli^> MNGRVE, it's what character setting is used and utf8 is ok.
[06:01] <Samuli^> MNGRVE, I'm pretty sure that your fstab mounts all drivers correctly and automatically. Just check the mount points /media/hda1 etc.
[06:01] <bart_> MNGRVE: I found this: http://odin.prohosting.com/wedge01/gentoo-radeon-faq.html#4_agpenomem
[06:01] <bart_> about my problem
[06:02] <MNGRVE> okay
[06:02] <MNGRVE> so what about gid?
[06:02] <MNGRVE> that's group id, i figure
[06:02] <MNGRVE> but what does 007 mean?
[06:03] <boink> 007? Bond. James Bond
[06:03] <MNGRVE> ^funny man
[06:03] <Samuli^> MNGRVE, it's standard chmod-style of specifying permissions
[06:03] <boga> what can I use to listen to mms: streams?
[06:03] <boink> mplayer
[06:03] <boink> !tell boga about mplayer
[06:03] <MNGRVE> i don't know chmod codes yet
[06:03] <geek_> hello all
[06:03] <zaggynl> Which logfile stores what happens when you boot?
[06:03] <MNGRVE> hi, geek_
[06:04] <geek_> someone use compiz+aiglx ?
[06:04] <boink> /var/log/message
[06:04] <zaggynl> before X starts
[06:04] <Samuli^> mngrif, 'man chmod' or check the internet
[06:04] <zaggynl> thx boink
[06:04] <jatt> Farrier: maybe you can try to set a symbolic link named libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 pointing to the current libstdc++ library on your system? AFAIK ubuntu doesn't distribute such version ( libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2)
[06:04] <MNGRVE> :D
[06:04] <Samuli^> MNGRVE,  'man chmod' or check the internet
[06:04] <siriusnova> Happy Ramadan and Rosh Hasana!
[06:04] <mypapit> wtf
[06:04] <surface-> yeah
[06:04] <mypapit> hi surface-.. we misses you
[06:04] <Tjoels> whats the difference between vmware player and vmware server?
[06:05] <surface-> mypapit, ubuntu become ur party channel?
[06:05] <MNGRVE> what would happen if i didn't set a gid?
[06:05] <siriusnova> Tjoels - vmware player runs premade vmware images
[06:05] <siriusnova> Vmware server lets you set up your own vmware session
[06:05] <surface-> Tjoels, we use vmplayer to play image
[06:05] <Samuli^> MNGRVE, just remember that umask works opposite of chmod: it doesn't give rights, it takes them away.
[06:05] <mypapit> surface-: kinda..
[06:05] <MNGRVE> so if i don't have one everyone can use it?
[06:06] <Tjoels> and if i want to create an image? can vmware server do that?
[06:06] <surface-> mypapit, beware later ppl redirect u to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:06] <Tjoels> cause i dont have an image..... but i have a windows xp cd.
[06:06] <mypapit> surface-: noooooo
[06:06] <surface-> Tjoels, u can create image, by using qemu-img
[06:06] <jatt> Tjoels: alternatively you can create the image with qemu and run the image with vmplayer. I run windows xp on such image.
[06:07] <Tjoels> is it just like a .iso image of the windows xp install disc?
[06:07] <surface-> Tjoels, u can install using iso as well as cd
[06:08] <Tjoels> but why should i make an image then?
[06:08] <surface-> Tjoels, the image of vmware is .vmdk
[06:08] <surface-> Tjoels, not like iso
[06:09] <Neo8750> is it a file that when used by the right program the program views it as a hard disk?
[06:09] <Tjoels> surface-: ok. but do i need to create such an image when i have a cd?
[06:10] <CokeNCode> ok, i'm was upgrading and saw this ... 'flash player non free version' thingie come up... what's that about ?
[06:10] <CokeNCode> is the new flash out for linux at long last ?
[06:10] <surface-> Tjoels, u need to create vm image
[06:11] <Tjoels> surface-: okay. but what is the difference then between player and server?
[06:11] <jatt> Tjoels: the vmware player opens vmware images. A configuration file is associated to each vmware image defining things such as CD-ROMs or .iso images from you want to boot
[06:12] <surface-> Tjoels, google it for more info so that u can understand more.
[06:12] <Tjoels> okay
[06:12] <Outerlimit> could anyone help me out with getting FrostWire to work?
[06:12] <Tjoels> thanks
[06:13] <CokeNCode> Outerlimit, what's not working?
[06:13] <Outerlimit> it tells me that i need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x
[06:13] <Outerlimit> if i do java -versoin, it says i have 1.4.2
[06:13] <CokeNCode> well, that's weird
[06:13] <Outerlimit> im not sure what i need to do
[06:13] <CokeNCode> Outerlimit, tried reinstalling ?
[06:13] <Outerlimit> well, i just installed it
[06:14] <Outerlimit> unless ur talkingn about java
[06:14] <Outerlimit> i read somewhere to do the alterntavie config for java
[06:14] <Outerlimit> and select the one that says sun in it, but i have 3 choies and non of them say sun
[06:14] <CokeNCode> hmmm, well, hmmm
[06:15] <Outerlimit> is there a package i can get for java/jre
[06:15] <Outerlimit> ?
[06:15] <hantu> !java
[06:15] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[06:16] <Outerlimit> haha, woah... this is the chan that had logs posted
[06:16] <Outerlimit> thats how i found out about frostwire
[06:16] <Outerlimit> cuz that bot was giving out info
[06:16] <Outerlimit> heh
[06:16] <Max_Might> can someone help me with phpmyadmin ???
[06:17] <Mikel0> i'm trying to print on xerox workcenter 412? has anyone here tried yet?
[06:18] <hydoskee> hey, I'm trying to create a 32 bit chroot under ubuntu on a opteron-based machine, then boot into it - does anybody know how that should be done?
[06:19] <Outerlimit> ok, i did sudo apt-get instasll sun-javaa5-jre
[06:19] <Outerlimit> and frostwire is still giving me the errors
[06:20] <jatt> hydoskee: if you want to boot into the chroot you just need to adjust grub to use the chroot directory as the root directory. I don't know of a way to boot a chroot from the command line...
[06:21] <GTX> Hi, I'm trying to find a guide for a friend on how to install Ubuntu on a new partition
[06:21] <bart_> hmzz, it all doesn' t work...
[06:21] <bart_> it is not possible to use the ATI Radeon X1600 pro in ubuntu...
[06:22] <ph8> really?
[06:22] <ph8> i thought fglrx was pretty good nowadays..
[06:23] <mirak> does 64 bits edgy supports 32 bits ?
[06:23] <bart_> after the log says: (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENOMEM"
[06:23] <ph8> i believe so
[06:23] <bart_> nothing works
[06:24] <Pierre> mirak, 32bit binaries can be run using linux32
[06:24] <bart_> So if I can fix that error everything should work
[06:24] <possum> hi i'm trying to install ubuntu and i get this error when booting to the disk - bios bug mp table errors detected
[06:24] <NeilyBoy> splashimage (hd0,1)/boot/grub/images/ubuntu.xpm.gz <-- Didn't work for me. I assume my grub boot loader is on another partition.  How do I check so that I can change this?
[06:24] <zerod> hey
[06:24] <Thuryn> sup
[06:24] <mirak> Pierre: what about linux 64 bit ?
[06:24] <possum> not sure what that means
[06:24] <zerod> interest
[06:24] <Thuryn> I'll think about it
[06:24] <unfknblvbl> !theme
[06:24] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:24] <unfknblvbl> !changethemes
[06:24] <ubotu> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[06:24] <bart_> I found this on the internet: http://odin.prohosting.com/wedge01/gentoo-radeon-faq.html#4_agpenomem
[06:25] <bart_> about my problem
[06:25] <sureshot> sorry i was away with my computer my i ask what is wrong with fglrx
[06:25] <Pierre> mirak, what do you ask? if an ubuntu 64bit install supports 32bit applications?
[06:25] <bart_> [18:23]  <bart_> after the log says: (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENOMEM"
[06:25] <NeilyBoy> Does anyone know how to change the splash image for the grub boot loader?
[06:25] <mirak> Pierre: yes
[06:25] <bart_> [18:23]  <bart_> nothing works
[06:25] <bart_> [18:24]  <bart_> So if I can fix that error everything should work
[06:25] <Outerlimit> !frostwire
[06:25] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:26] <ryan_> is there any way to clean up my kubuntu to make it run faster....the past few days its been running extreamly slow
[06:26] <jatt> bart_: pastebin your xorg.conf file. Probably you have acceleration enabled. ATI cards 3D acceleration support in ubuntu is not the best. And stop posting the same stuff again and again.
[06:26] <Mille> how do I find wireless access points/my router through my laptop? is there a program that comes with ubuntu, or do I havet o install one?
[06:26] <sureshot> ryan please /join kubuntu for questions for kubuntu
[06:27] <bart_> Ok I past my conf again
[06:27] <Pierre> mirak, so what I just said, use linux32, an example config (for firefox and flash) here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[06:28] <mirak> Pierre: oh this is a package
[06:28] <Pierre> mirak, yes :)
[06:28] <bart_> My xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24531
[06:28] <Mille> does anyone see what I'm writing? ;-)
[06:28] <zaggynl> Mille, I do
[06:28] <Tu13es> hfm, can anyone help me? I'm trying to install the nvidia driver and get 1920x1200 working..
[06:28] <bart_> jatt, I don' t think you find anything wrong there
[06:28] <Mille> cool. just checking. you never know, heh.
[06:29] <Tu13es> ah, may have found what I did wrong..
[06:29] <zaggynl> Mille, you might want to check out kismet
[06:29] <jatt> bart_: ok
[06:29] <bart_> nothing wrong? :)
[06:29] <Audimage> how do i install a file from a tar.gz file
[06:30] <Mille> zaggynl, no program that follows with ubuntu? i mean, how do you use your wireless card if you cant find any access points? :p
[06:30] <SonicChao> Where is the deb package for InkScape .44?
[06:30] <jatt> bart_: Have you already tried the
[06:30] <jatt> Option 		"UseInternalAGPGART" "no"
[06:30] <jatt> and
[06:30] <jatt> Option		"NoAccel" "true"
[06:30] <zaggynl> Mille, program that follows ubuntu?
[06:30] <jatt> options?
[06:30] <SonicChao> Or when will it be in repos? =)
[06:31] <GTX> Hi, I'm trying to find a guide for a friend on how to install Ubuntu on a new partition. Can anyone point me to a URL?
[06:31] <bart_> No, where to place it?
[06:31] <bart_> in device?
[06:31] <zaggynl> bart_,  yeah
[06:31] <jatt> In the device section after the UseFBDev option.
[06:31] <Pierre> Mille, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[06:31] <Mille> thanks
[06:32] <bart_> Ok lets try it
[06:32] <Audimage> how do i install the libc development package
[06:32] <jatt> bart_: I do have an ATI RADEON Express 200M and I do have the "UseInternalAGPGART" "no" option enabled. As I said, probably you need to disable 3D acceleration explicitly at least with the xorg driver.
[06:32] <jatt> bart_: have you already tried the proprietary driver?
[06:32] <cRiM|> does anyone know why the internet works with live cd.. but my installed version of ubuntu.. the internet doesn't work?.. like my ethernet card isn't reading as a internet protocol..
[06:32] <bart__> jatt I used the ATI driver
[06:33] <bart__> from their website
[06:33] <bart__> But I tried that other one too
[06:33] <jatt> bart__: ops I confused both drivers sorry.
[06:33] <harisund> Does anybody know anything about DHCP servers please? I really want to know .... when somebody connects to my DHCP server, an entry is made in the leases file. If they terminate their connection without properly releasing their DHCP, when will my leases file be updated? ???
[06:33] <bart__> Uhm X won't start
[06:33] <bart__> ;S
[06:34] <fyrestrtr> harisund: no, the leases file will be updated when leases time out.
[06:34] <bart__> That's a problem :p
[06:34] <NeilyBoy> is there a more ubuntu looking skin for FrostWire?
[06:34] <cRiM|> ok my ethernet card works fine with the live cd of ubuntu.. but when i install ubuntu.. the internet doesn't work.. does anyone know why?
[06:34] <harisund> fyrestrtr: ah interesting. Awesome. So having a very short lease time works, perhaps? Will my DHCP clients know anything if I have a shorter lease time?
[06:34] <Arrick> what is the command for restarting the network services?
[06:34] <jatt> bart__: so you tried the two options already? If yes I am out of ideas how to make your card work, sorry.
[06:34] <Arrick> in breezy
[06:35] <harisund> Arrick: invoke-rc.d neworking restart (with sudo of course)
[06:35] <fyrestrtr> they'll be mad because they'll be constantly sending dhcp request packets :P
[06:35] <zaggynl> Arrick,  ifup eth0 and ifdown eth0
[06:35] <bart__> yes I used the two options but now I can' t start X
[06:35] <Arrick> is that to restart, or to start?
[06:35] <fyrestrtr> harisund: depending on the environment, short lease times can be handy. Most of the time, a longer lease is necessary.
[06:36] <zaggynl> Arrick, 'ifdown eth0' to stop, 'ifup eth0' to start
[06:36] <zaggynl> someone correct me if I'm wrong please
[06:36] <bart__> jatt, It sais: "Option"NoAccel"" is not a valid keyword in this section
[06:36] <fyrestrtr> harisund: also, a client doesn't release the assigned ip address, the server does.
[06:36] <harisund> fyrestrtr: ah. So what I can perhaps do is give trusted hosts an ip with a longer lease time (based on their mac for example..) and all other hosts a somewhat smaller host time ...
[06:36] <jatt> bart__: strange. Here is the option I have in my xorg.conf file
[06:36] <jatt> Option		"NoAccel" "true"
[06:36] <stefg> bart__: check your syntax
[06:37] <axa-axa> Can someone please tell me, when will official ubuntu 6.06 dapper drake repositories include gnome 2.16, or at least is there any fairly secure repository that provides it?
[06:37] <bart__> Uhm where was that config file
[06:37] <fyrestrtr> harisund: you can do that, OR -- just run two different subnets.
[06:37] <harisund> fyrestrtr: eh? Then what does "dhclient -r eth0" do?
[06:37] <Skrot> Hi. Is it possible to tell dhclient not to override resolv.conf if dhcp-offer came from a specific mac?
[06:37] <fyrestrtr> harisund: request another one :)
[06:37] <jatt> bart__: you should know, you tried both options already.
[06:38] <IcyStorm> Where do I install fonts?
[06:38] <harisund> fyrestrtr: no.. dhclient eth0 requests one, and dhclient -r eth0 releases the assigned ip. If you are running a Windows client, ipconfig /release...
[06:38] <rods> hi all
[06:38] <fyrestrtr> harisund: ah yeah, I'm wrong there. :)
[06:38] <bart__> :p
[06:38] <bart__> gt it
[06:38] <rods> how to recovery a file usinge the recovery mode
[06:38] <rods> ?
[06:38] <rods> using*
[06:38] <rods> sorry
[06:38] <_xs> hi, i have 670764KB of cached memory and i want to free it, can i ?
[06:38] <rods> how to edit a file using the recovery mode?***
[06:39] <axa-axa> Can someone please tell me, when will official ubuntu 6.06 dapper drake repositories include gnome 2.16, or at least is there any fairly secure repository that provides it?
[06:39] <fyrestrtr> harisund: I run a dhcp + nat + firewall + vpn + dns on ubuntu for an office. Sometimes, things get confused :)
[06:39] <harisund> anyway fyrestrtr .. you have been quite awesome... if you remember I have been asking questions based on the whole nat, router, dhcp/dns server thing ... and with a name like yours, you have been of great help :)
[06:39] <zaggynl> bart__, 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[06:39] <zaggynl> too late :P
[06:39] <fyrestrtr> axa-axa: probably never.
[06:39] <Outerlimit> Ok, I think my problemw ith frostwire is that it is looking in the wrong directories for JRE
[06:39] <LOSTINC> How do I upgrade to edgy?
[06:39] <bart__> not gedit :P
[06:39] <bart__> not working from here
[06:39] <Arrick> Anyone, how do I make the computer search for new devices, that it didnt see during boot, but identical to one it did see?
[06:39] <harisund> fyrestrtr: that's something similar I am trying to do for my home ... on a smaller level of course .. no vpn for starters...
[06:39] <Arrick> as in two NICS?
[06:40] <bart__> but
[06:40] <rods> how to edit a file using the recovery mode?
[06:40] <fyrestrtr> Outerlimit: if you install jre using synaptic or apt-get, then use sudo update-alternatives --config java to change the active jvm.
[06:40] <LOSTINC> !edgy
[06:40] <NeilyBoy> gaw. xchat is not opening links in firefox. in fact, no program is opening links in firefox. Help please?
[06:40] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:40] <stefg> !upgrade
[06:40] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:40] <bart__> I reboot now
[06:40] <axa-axa> fyrestrtr: !? Why is that ?
[06:40] <rods> how to edit a file using the recovery mode?
[06:40] <harisund> Arrick if you are searching for a nic, type in ifconfig -a .. it will show you all nics it knows, whether they are up or not.
[06:40] <jatt> rods: which editor
[06:40] <nearfar|erc> hrm
[06:40] <fyrestrtr> axa-axa: because its LTS and Edgy is coming with 2.16.
[06:40] <Arrick> ok
[06:40] <Mille> zaggynl, isn't there any gui for kismet?
[06:40] <stefg> rods: nano /my/file
[06:40] <rods> jatt, anyone.. if i type nano [name of file} will owrk?
[06:40] <harisund> Arrick: every device is accessed by a file descriptor... most likely nics are eth0,eth1 and so on, hard disks are hda,hdb and so on, usb disks are sda,sdb....
[06:40] <Outerlimit> fyrestrtr, thank you very much!!
[06:41] <harisund> rods, try it ;)
[06:41] <zaggynl> Mille, I don't know, I'm not familiar with using wireless at all
[06:41] <bart__> Ok the conf is Ok, I forgot a space
[06:41] <Mille> i see.
[06:41] <rods> stefg, thanks a bunch mam!
[06:41] <rods> man*
[06:41] <Arrick> ok, how about eth0 and eth2?
[06:41] <stefg> rods: hopefully :-)
[06:41] <Arrick> no 1 there
[06:41] <rods> ok.. thanks all
[06:41] <axa-axa> fyrestrtr: Uh, but when will it come :(
[06:41] <rods> brb
[06:41] <harisund> Arrick: ok! never mind .. I wouldn't be too worried :)
[06:41] <bart__> But
[06:41] <jatt> rods: "recovery mode" seems something editor-specific. Not all editors implement the same "recovery mode". What do you mean with "recovery mode"?
[06:41] <Arrick> ok
[06:41] <fyrestrtr> axa-axa: October.
[06:41] <crashd> what can you do if ubuntu doesn't recognise an ipod when you plug it in
[06:41] <bart__> If I use fglrxinfo I get error
[06:41] <crashd> and dmesg doesn't show any scsi emulation layer being loaded for the usb device?
[06:41] <LOSTINC> Is galeon as safe as firefox?
[06:42] <fyrestrtr> safe like?
[06:42] <bart__> Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"
[06:42] <stefg> !iPod
[06:42] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[06:42] <axa-axa> fyrestrtr: And can I upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 without too much hustle?
[06:42] <rods> jatt, i'll reboot the pc to try to edit a file with problem...
[06:42] <crashd> stefg: that's not exactly what i asked
[06:42] <bart__> jatt, what does that mean?
[06:42] <stefg> crashd: have you read the howto?
[06:42] <fyrestrtr> axa-axa: yes, eventually; don't try it now as its still being worked on and has a few bugs.
[06:42] <crashd> that only applies if you can actually get ubuntu to recognise the device
[06:42] <crashd> yeah, it used to work, not it doesnt
[06:42] <crashd> now, rather
[06:43] <rods> jatt, i'll try nano, lets issue and pray lol
[06:43] <jatt> bart__: no idea. Do you have in the module section:
[06:43] <jatt> Load	"dri"
[06:43] <jatt> ?
[06:43] <axa-axa> fyrestrtr: thanks.
[06:43] <rods> jatt, brb
[06:43] <bart__> Uhm
[06:43] <Arrick> hey harisund it sees the two that are there, however it only has eth0 in the interfaces file, can i somehow change this?
[06:43] <Arrick> I am setting this up as a firewall
[06:43] <bart__> Very looooooooooow refresh rate...
[06:43] <jatt> bart__: I do have that in the module section and additionally the following section
[06:43] <jatt> Section "DRI"
[06:43] <jatt> 	Mode	0666
[06:43] <jatt> EndSection
[06:44] <bart__> jatt: I have DRI
[06:44] <harisund> Arrick: you will have to edit the /etc/network/interfaces file ... have a look online for something like "how to edit interfaces file for debian" or something ... if you want, hang on, I will post my current setup where I have 2 cards, one for WAN, one for LAN and being used as a firewall/router
[06:45] <crashd> stefg: the problem is that ubuntu isnt firing the scsi driver for it
[06:45] <crashd> and i dont know why ;\
[06:45] <bart__> So why that error?
[06:45] <Arrick> on I'll wait
[06:45] <fyrestrtr> Arrick: what are you using to route?
[06:45] <Arrick> I have a script, will post it to pastebin
[06:45] <Arrick> !pastebin
[06:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:45] <CarlFK> did the wiki get locked down, cuz I can't figure out how to log in
[06:45] <stefg> crashd: are you able to mount it manually (sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt) ?
[06:45] <fyrestrtr> Arrick: the "simple" way to do it is, bring both interfaces up. Then, use shorewall (or something similar) to setup natting and routing. Took me all of 15 minutes and I was up and running :)
[06:46] <_xs> noone know how to flush cached memory ?
[06:46] <crashd> stefg: no, as i say it doesnt come up as a scsi device
[06:46] <crashd> at all
[06:46] <harisund> Arrick: if you want have a look here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24538
[06:46] <Arrick> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24537  I know I have to edit this a little
[06:46] <crashd> i checked dmesg and it says it's plugged in, but it just isnt loading the scsi driver for it
[06:46] <bart__> jatt: must I disable DRI loading?
[06:46] <harisund> Arrick: but what fyrestrtr suggested is perhaps a nicer way indeed..
[06:46] <brian98> arrick: Firestarter
[06:46] <Arrick> fyrestrtr, I am running terminal only no gui
[06:46] <stefg> crashd: anything special in dmesg after you've plugged it in?
[06:46] <brian98> forget firestarter so.. :)~
[06:46] <fyrestrtr> shorewall is all terminal :) That's what I run.
[06:46] <villmow> I am trying to set my gateway and everytime I reboot it gets cleared, what file do I have to modify to make it permanent?
[06:47] <m1sh-L> i search the packet initramfs-cryptsetup_0.43_all.deb! where can i download it?
[06:47] <crashd> stefg: not at all
[06:47] <crashd> [ 2608.478061]  usb 1-8: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 11
[06:47] <Arrick> ok
[06:47] <Audimage> how do i delete a folder in terminal
[06:47] <fyrestrtr> I have one machine runs bind (for dns) shorewall (nat+firewall) openvpn (err, vpn).
[06:47] <crashd> and then a USB Disconnect when i unplug it
[06:47] <GTX> Hi, I'm trying to find a guide for a friend on how to install Ubuntu on a new partition. Can anyone point me to a URL?
[06:47] <stefg> hmmm... a case of 'doesn't work' so far...
[06:47] <ChaosFan> Audimage: rm -r folder
[06:47] <jatt> bart__: I am not sure. In my case DRI initialization fails (with a different message than yours), but the error isn't critical and I can use my card (3D acceleration doesn't work though).
[06:48] <fyrestrtr> Audimage: rmdir if the folder is empty, if it isn't rm -r foldername
[06:48] <jatt> bart__: try to comment the
[06:48] <jatt> Load "dri"
[06:48] <jatt> entry and the pertinent section.
[06:48] <crashd> it was working earlier when i was on ubuntu64, but i needed to install 32bit instead, and since ive done that it hasn't worked
[06:48] <bart__> jatt: My refresh rate is very low now...
[06:48] <bart__> that isn' t normal
[06:49] <bart__> entry and the pertinent section???????????
[06:49] <Audimage> what is the delete command in terminal?
[06:49] <LOSTINC> Is there a way to save to CD or USB HD all the packages that I have downloaded via synaptic for backup. I want to reimage the machine but do not want to have to download all the packages.
[06:49] <jatt> bart__: does the X server start at least this time? As far as I understand the X server didn't start in your case. If yes the refresh rate is a different issue which probably can be adjusted within the xorg.conf file.
[06:49] <stefg> crashd: i have no clue what the problem could be. Involved are hal, dbus, pmount and gnome-volume-manager.... happy hunting
[06:49] <MonsieurBon> hello
[06:50] <MonsieurBon> how can I tell ubuntu not to make a .trash on things like USB Harddisk or iPod?
[06:50] <crashd> stefg: O_o
[06:50] <crashd> it was working just fine earlier
[06:50] <crashd> curseessss
[06:50] <jatt> bart__: with "entry" i do mean the following:
[06:50] <Arrick> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24539 is my current interfaces file
[06:50] <jatt> 	Load	"dri"
[06:50] <jatt> in the module section.
[06:50] <iLLf8d> can smoeone tell me where I can get a sources list that contains the vanilla xchat client?
[06:50] <jatt> bart__: with pertinent section I do mean the
[06:50] <jatt> Section "DRI"
[06:50] <jatt> 
[06:50] <jatt> part
[06:51] <bart__> jatt: Yes the X server started, but I have this error when I use fglrxinfo and my refreshrate is ***up, so without that edit in xorg it was better
[06:51] <bart__> And still no 3D only mesa
[06:52] <jatt> bart__: I am lost. I thought your X server didn't start *at all*, before my proposed changes. Which was your original problem then?
[06:52] <LOSTINC> is there any noticible difference in how GNOME acts in Edgy eft?
[06:52] <Audimage> I have a partition mounted to /archive how do i set permissions so that i can move files to it in GUI
[06:53] <Audimage> instead of terminal
[06:53] <bart__> ooow :p. The problem is that it loads mesa ipv 3d ati driver stuff and I found that error in my log
[06:53] <Ademan> i tried to install proprietary NVIDIA drivers and its saying that the nvidia kernel module is a different version than the Xorg module
[06:53] <iLLf8d> good morning Audimage
[06:53] <surface-> Audimage, chmod
[06:53] <Audimage> hi illf8d
[06:53] <jatt> bart__: ok, then my proposed changes disabled 3D acceleration and thus the slowdown.
[06:54] <bart__> I think it is better now to reconfigure?
[06:54] <fyrestrtr> iLLf8d: enable universe and multiverse, then install it.
[06:54] <nearfar|erc> hrm
[06:54] <bart__> right?
[06:55] <Arrick> brbr
[06:55] <iLLf8d> fyrestrtr: hey can you point me to the docs/wiki that I need to get up to speed quick? I'm coming from using a bunch of other nixes including debian and only need to enable extra cruft?
[06:55] <rods> jatt, it worked =] 
[06:55] <Arrick> hey, writeout in nano is save correct?
[06:55] <Arrick> ctrl + o?
[06:55] <zaggynl> anyone knows howto get hamachi and hamachi-gtk? I can't find in the repository :(
[06:55] <iLLf8d> fyrestrtr: kinda like one of those for those people who already know how to code this is the language overview pages =P
[06:55] <zaggynl> and I don't know which to add
[06:56] <rods> does someone tryied to install a netwrk adapter ENL832-TX-ICNT??
[06:56] <Arrick> fyrestrtr, ^^
[06:56] <fyrestrtr> !universe > iLLf8d
[06:56] <tehstev> got an interesting problem... i think my wireless card believes its on a ip6 network and i can't connect to any access points :(
[06:56] <fyrestrtr> !info hamachi
[06:56] <ubotu> Package hamachi does not exist in any distro I know
[06:56] <Arrick> !ipv6
[06:56] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[06:56] <Arrick> tehstev, ^^ read ubotus post
[06:57] <tehstev> gracias
[06:57] <Arrick> bien
[06:57] <rods> does someone tryied to install a netwrk adapter ENL832-TX-ICNT??
[06:57] <tehstev> Arrick: any clue why it would suddenly switch?
[06:57] <zaggynl> I do have hamachi working, but it's commandline, I want a pretty GUI :)
[06:57] <DJAdmiral> Hamachi
[06:57] <Arrick> updates?
[06:58] <Arrick> nto for me to answer
[06:58] <bart__> jatt: I changed the conf back so I can use anything again
[06:58] <DJAdmiral> omg i was just about to ask something relevant lol
[06:58] <bart__> but still masa loaded
[06:58] <zaggynl> sweetness: http://www.penguinbyte.com/software/ghamachi/
[06:58] <Kewlb> !myth
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:58] <Kewlb> !mythtv
[06:58] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[06:58] <DJAdmiral> zaggynl: are you using hamachi for moparscape by any chance?
[06:59] <zaggynl> DJAdmiral, no sir, warcraft III (with succes with the CLI version)
[06:59] <DJAdmiral> ah.
[06:59] <rods> i've issued lspci and i can see it there...
[06:59] <rods> any idea?
[07:00] <DJAdmiral> Due to unavoidable circumstances, I need to install winme dualboot on my laptop which currently has only ubuntu atm.
[07:00] <renatoborghi> hey people
[07:00] <renatoborghi> wassup?
[07:00] <foomanchew> can anyone help me with resolution issue for laptop running ATI Rage M3 card
[07:00] <DJAdmiral> How would I go about this?
[07:00] <bart__> jatt: I don' t know what to do now maybe my ATI isn't compatible with the drivers
[07:00] <zaggynl> ghamachi should be added to the rep!!
[07:00] <foomanchew> it wont set higher than 1024x768
[07:00] <renatoborghi> i'm having a problem here
[07:00] <Kewlb> anyone have a URL for the best guide for setting up MythTV on Dapper?
[07:00] <c0nfidencal> !nvidia
[07:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:00] <decherdtt> Ademan: mine was v8762 vs v8774, with clues several ways, rmmod 8762 + insmod  8774 worked, couldn't find v8762, wound up reinstalling the 8774,  works now. stabilized Xgl
[07:00] <renatoborghi> anyone plays enemy territory?
[07:00] <bart__> yes :p
[07:01] <DJAdmiral> Do I back up sources.list, install winme, re-install grub and copy sources.list back?
[07:01] <bart__> but not on ubuntu that isn't working
[07:01] <foomanchew> my xorg.conf has settings for higher res but not being used by X11 ?
[07:01] <renatoborghi> something strange is happening when i run enemy territory here in ubuntu
[07:01] <Roger__> i have windows xp on one drive ... if i install Ubuntu Desktop will it partition my drive or will it completely wipe my drive clean?
[07:01] <Arrick> hey, Is there any reason why my computer cant connect via ssh to the new care, I restarted networking, what else do i need to restart?
[07:02] <stefg> Roger__: as the name suggests ubuntu is a very tolerant OS :-)
[07:02] <renatoborghi> when i enter the game, it's all ok, everything works
[07:02] <DJAdmiral> Roger__: You can do either.
[07:02] <troughton> how do i find out which kernal i am running ?
[07:02] <quintin> troughton: uname -a
[07:02] <gosty> hello is anybody out there who will help me with PostgreSQL?
[07:02] <bart__> jatt: are you still here?
[07:02] <quintin> gosty: yea the postgresql channel
[07:02] <Roger__> DJAdmiral/stefg: I used to use linux a looooooong time ago and to dual boot one had to use a tool like partition magic before the linux install
[07:02] <roconnor> poor pl
[07:03] <roconnor> oops
[07:03] <gosty> quintin this is his name?
[07:03] <rod> In WHICH FILES are the access rights of harddrive set? I checked MTAB, FSTAB ... but my ext2 usbdrive is still RO ...
[07:03] <Quintin> gosty: er, the channel for postgresql
[07:03] <renatoborghi> but when i join a enemy territory server, all the images get strange, grey in some parts and i can't see anything
[07:03] <stefg> Roger__: Linux /has/ made some progress in the last 5 years, contrary to another popular OS :-)
[07:03] <Quintin> rod: uhm.. fstab should have mount options
[07:03] <renatoborghi> could it be a problem with my video card, driver, or something like this, or is it a software problem?
[07:04] <renatoborghi> by software i mean ET software
[07:04] <rod> Quintin, they are set to RW ... but when I change permission on the usbdrive it says it's only ro
[07:04] <zerod> Hello
[07:04] <Justy> Brb sorry for exit and re-enters
[07:04] <ziro01> sup
[07:04] <rod> Quintin, thats why im wondering if i overlooked some files
[07:04] <cRiM|> anyone know why the ip4 protocol shows up on my ethernet card with the live cd.. but its not there on the installed version of ubuntu?
[07:04] <Roger__> stefg: ok ... is it still recommended to backup crit files in windows before attempting the ubuntu install? My biggest concern is getting ubuntu installed but unable to access the net, which, with no other computers here would make things difficult :)
[07:05] <cherubiel> rod: rw-able as root?
[07:05] <Quintin> rod: shrug.  go look at google
[07:05] <Tu13es> I'm trying to get the nvidia driver working with my monitor and get 1920x1200 running, but no luck
[07:05] <renatoborghi> can anyone help me with my Enemy territory problem?
[07:05] <Justy> Hello all =)
[07:05] <renatoborghi> hey Justy
[07:06] <renatoborghi> welcome back
[07:06] <Justy> renatoborghi, thanks a lot!
[07:06] <cRiM|> does anyone know why the internet works on the live cd.. but my installed version, it doesn't work??
[07:06] <Arrick> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24542 is my new configuration and I cant seem to connect via ssh to the new nic, I did ifdown eth2 and it says not configured?
[07:06] <stefg> Roger__: gaining a full backup is always a good idea before doing something that touches the partition table. Use the alternate CD for better install-control and let the partitioner ask you sensible questions, which you will respond in a sensible way .. :-)
[07:06] <Justy> cRiM|, do you connect via a network ?
[07:07] <rod> cherubiel, when I run nautilus as root, and change file permission it still says RO only
[07:07] <cRiM|> yup
[07:07] <zerod> investigating
[07:07] <ziro01> secret
[07:07] <cRiM|> justy: yes
[07:07] <renatoborghi> anyone plays Enemy Territory here and can help me?
[07:07] <Justy> cRiM|, do you know your router's IP adress ?
[07:07] <cRiM|> yup
[07:07] <cRiM|> 192.168.0.1
[07:07] <Roger__> i saw that the Server is LAMP ready, does the same hold true for the Desktop?
[07:07] <jmitchj> i wonder if someone could help me with a couple things?..I just finished installing on USB External Drive...I have access to the linus partition from Windows using FS-Drive...how do i get my Internal Hard drive mounted and avalable each time I boot
[07:07] <Justy> cRiM|, now please try entering the main interface of your router..
[07:08] <cRiM|> using the live cd?
[07:08] <fyrestrtr> Roger__: yes, all you need is the lamp.
[07:08] <Justy> cRiM|, so that we can understand if the problem is with the DNS..
[07:08] <cRiM|> k
[07:08] <cRiM|> hold on
[07:08] <Justy> cRiM|, are you using live CD now?
[07:08] <stefg> !mount
[07:08] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[07:08] <cRiM|> ok now what justy
[07:08] <cRiM|> justy: yes i am.
[07:09] <Justy> cRiM|, now make a blank file on your home directory
[07:09] <Justy> cRiM|, name it as " setdns ".
[07:09] <Roger__> is it any riskier to install Kubuntu instead of Ubuntu or is the only difference KDE vs. GNOME?
[07:09] <cRiM|> ok
[07:09] <Justy> cRiM|, now open Terminal
[07:09] <cRiM|> ok
[07:09] <stefg> Roger__: it's the same distro, only the Desktop is different
[07:09] <Skrot> Roger__: KDE/Gnome is the only difference..
[07:10] <Telroth_Plushie|> Roger__, kfde vs gnome
[07:10] <Telroth_Plushie|> *kde
[07:10] <Justy> cRiM|, type " cd ~ ".
[07:10] <jbroome> kmfde? :)\
[07:10] <cRiM|> then
[07:10] <Roger__> cool
[07:10] <Justy> cRiM|, type " sudo cat setdns > /etc/resolv.conf "
[07:10] <Telroth_Plushie|> (shush, i'm typing with one hand.)
[07:10] <Justy> cRiM|, and type your password
[07:10] <Justy> ups
[07:10] <Justy> stop
[07:10] <shane_> Hello, I have a quick question.  How do I get root access in Nautilus to transfer a folder from my home directory to another?
[07:11] <cRiM|> ok then what?
[07:11] <Justy> first do "nano setdns"
[07:11] <renatoborghi> sudo nautilus
[07:11] <renatoborghi> shane, sudo nautlis
[07:11] <stefg> gksudo nautilus --no-desktop
[07:11] <renatoborghi> *nautilus
[07:11] <shane_> ty
[07:11] <renatoborghi> why this --no-desktop, stefg?
[07:11] <Justy> then type there " nameserver 208.67.222.222 "
[07:11] <FantasticFoo> i cannot get wireless working on my laptop.
[07:11] <Roger__> I have a standard Dell w/ linksys wireless... what should I expect as far as net connectivity? How easy is it to setup? I was reading someone with the same card got his working after he entered his "WAP details"
[07:12] <Justy> then press " CTRL + X "
[07:12] <cherubiel> ubotu: !wireless > FantasticFoo
[07:12] <Justy> save ...
[07:12] <Arrick> how do I restart the openssh-server?
[07:12] <FantasticFoo> i've followed numerous tutorials that pertain to my exact laptop model!
[07:12] <stefg> nautilus is responsible for the gnome desktop as well. there's already a desktop running for the user so no need for nautilus to try to draw one again for root
[07:12] <Telroth_Plushie|> Arrick, /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[07:12] <FantasticFoo> they all tell me to do pretty much the same thing
[07:12] <Justy> DAMN! :(
[07:13] <Arrick> thanks Telroth_Plushie|
[07:13] <george008> can anyone help me with resolution issue for laptop running ATI Rage M3 card ?
[07:13] <george008> can anyone help me with resolution issue for laptop running ATI Rage M3 card ?
[07:13] <stefg> !fixres
[07:13] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:13] <mrcoyote> Hello personne aurait des problmes de dns avec orange ? en ce moment enfin depuis 3 jours  ?
[07:13] <stefg> !fr
[07:13] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:14] <jmitchj> when i try to access my internal drive I get a message that says Unable to mount the selected volume and error: device /dev/hda1 is not removable, error: could not execute pmount
[07:14] <Arrick> fyrestrtr, you got a link for the thing you said to try out for a firewall?
[07:14] <renatoborghi> ok, so can someone help me? anyone here plays Enemy Territory in ubuntu?
[07:14] <cherubiel> jmitchj: add /dev/hda1 to /etc/pmount.allow
[07:14] <cherubiel> and restart
[07:15] <cherubiel> jmitchj: restart=retry :P
[07:16] <IcyStorm> How do I get permission to install fonts in /usr/share/fonts/truetype?
[07:16] <jrib> IcyStorm: why not use ~/.fonts ?
[07:16] <jrib> !fonts > IcyStorm
[07:17] <giga> pg-8, so fuck it
[07:17] <IcyStorm> Do you mind telling me how to do that or should I go Google that?
[07:17] <giga> pg-18
[07:17] <renatoborghi> no one here plays enemy territory then?
[07:17] <jrib> IcyStorm: ubotu should have sent you the information, did you get a private emsage?
[07:17] <jmitchj> hey thanks!! cherubiel..first time using ubuntu...
[07:17] <IcyStorm> Thanks, I got it
[07:18] <cherubiel> jmitchj: good! use only ubuntu :P
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> renatoborghi,  all i did last time was download the isntaller from  a site and ran it. :P
[07:19] <neymac> where do I get the last USP (Ubuntu System Panel )?
[07:20] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> hey guys. can anyone help me modify the startup message
[07:20] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i want to make it look real geeky
[07:20] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> add some 0s and 1s and stuf f like tha
[07:20] <Telroth_Plushie|> startup message?
[07:20] <Telroth_Plushie|> i can think of 3 different things that fit that description ;)
[07:20] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> yeah. when ubuntu loads it says stuff like loading restricted drivers
[07:20] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> and stuff like that
[07:21] <Telroth_Plushie|> oh
[07:21] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> mouting root file system                  OK
[07:21] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> lol
[07:21] <Telroth_Plushie|> AAAh
[07:21] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i want to make it
[07:21] <Telroth_Plushie|> you can't really mod those
[07:21] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> oh shit!
[07:21] <Telroth_Plushie|> because they will go back to normal every time you upgrade
[07:21] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i heard linux is really customizable
[07:21] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> hmmm
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> PunjabiFLOYDIAN,  yes it is.
[07:21] <Telroth_Plushie|> oh, you can
[07:21] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> what if i modify the kernel itself? how will it upgrade then
[07:21] <Telroth_Plushie|> but it's not worth it
[07:22] <Telroth_Plushie|> they aren't a part of the kernel
[07:22] <libervisco> Hi
[07:22] <Telroth_Plushie|> those are runtime services
[07:22] <Telroth_Plushie|> well
[07:22] <Telroth_Plushie|> no, those are init
[07:22] <Telroth_Plushie|> init will be recreated after every kernel upgrade
[07:22] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> how can i  make my linux look geeky
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> yes - this is such an imporntant thing to be changeing.,..
[07:22] <libervisco> Would you recommend enabling edgy universe on dapper?
[07:22] <Kewlb> anyone have a URL for the best guide for setting up MythTV on Dapper?
[07:22] <Telroth_Plushie|> and runtime services are recreated every upgrade
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> PunjabiFLOYDIAN,  use the Console only.
[07:22] <libervisco> edgy universe has some things not in the current one
[07:23] <lehel> hello
[07:23] <MNGRVE> hi
[07:23] <Telroth_Plushie|> libervisco,
[07:23] <Telroth_Plushie|> don't mix edgy and dapper
[07:23] <cherubiel> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: use only cli
[07:23] <Telroth_Plushie|> either all edgy or all dapper
[07:23] <libervisco> ah
[07:23] <Telroth_Plushie|> versions aren't compatable
[07:23] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> cli whats that?
[07:23] <libervisco> would you recommend all edgy right now? :)
[07:23] <lehel> i just installed 6.06.1 desktop, i read man sudo_root, but i still don't managed to change the root passwd, [?] 
[07:23] <Telroth_Plushie|> libervisco, i'm using edgy knot 3 + xgl+compiz
[07:24] <Telroth_Plushie|> it seems pretty stable
[07:24] <Telroth_Plushie|> x has crashed but once on me
[07:24] <BlackJordan> I cannot install the audio and video codecs... what should I do?
[07:24] <libervisco> cool
[07:24] <george008> no luck followed all the xorg reconfig howto....
[07:24] <Telroth_Plushie|> and it was throughly overloaded ;)
[07:24] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> BlackJordan: what codecs?
[07:24] <libervisco> Telroth_Plushie|, hehe, maybe I'll try it then..
[07:24] <b14ck73425> hey im mixing some music does anyone know of any good programs to generate sound
[07:25] <BlackJordan> the wmv and mpge ones
[07:25] <Kewlb> gonna need to download the codecs and compile mplayer yourself blackjordan
[07:25] <afboy143> heyllo all
[07:25] <cherubiel> BlackJordan: get w32codec
[07:25] <PopeOfWar> kalif: Are you there?
[07:25] <cherubiel> w32codecs*
[07:25] <BlackJordan> where, cherubiel?
[07:25] <cherubiel> BlackJordan: apt-get
[07:26] <PopeOfWar> kalif: You already know about my problem... so I'm wondering if you can help me...
[07:26] <c0nfidencal> hey dudes
[07:26] <PopeOfWar> hey dude
[07:26] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> hey dudes and guys. help me make my linux geeky!
[07:26] <c0nfidencal> can anyone help me installing nvidia drivers on ubuntu 6.06? :)
[07:26] <c0nfidencal> =D
[07:26] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> confidencal: yup i can help ya
[07:26] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> wait a sec
[07:26] <esters> :DDDD
[07:26] <c0nfidencal> sure
[07:26] <lehel> guys, i'm reading to enable the root account i need to use: "sudo passwd root" , but how do i know the existing password?
[07:26] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074
[07:26] <c0nfidencal> sec
[07:27] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> read this carefully.
[07:27] <c0nfidencal> its for 5.10
[07:27] <cherubiel> lehel: when you do sudo, supply the current users passwd, NOT roots
[07:27] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> yup. read it
[07:27] <c0nfidencal> and its not kinda working for me :|
[07:27] <cRiM|> ok my ethernet card doesn't have the ip4 protocol on the installed version.. but on the live version it does.. anyone know how to fix?
[07:27] <c0nfidencal> ehm..
[07:27] <c0nfidencal> lemme check it fully
[07:27] <c0nfidencal> :)
[07:27] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> my xserver crashed once so be careful
[07:27] <c0nfidencal> well
[07:27] <esters> !nvidia
[07:27] <c0nfidencal> i installed those drivers
[07:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:27] <afboy143> I need help installing my nvidia and mother board drivers....is there any way to run a "windows emulator"?
[07:27] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> and do upgrade to Dapper
[07:27] <lehel> thanks cherubiel!
[07:27] <c0nfidencal> i am using dapper
[07:27] <c0nfidencal> 6.06, right?
[07:27] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> afboy143: why do u want to run windows
[07:27] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> yeah rite
[07:27] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> u said 5.10
[07:27] <PopeOfWar> Where is the includes directory in Ubuntu?
[07:27] <cRiM|> ok my ethernet card doesn't have the ip4 protocol on the installed version.. but on the live version it does.. anyone know how to fix?
[07:28] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> afboy143: why do u want to run windows emulator?
 can anyone help me installing nvidia drivers on ubuntu 6.06? :)
[07:28] <c0nfidencal> i said 6.06 :p
[07:28] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> confidnecaL:
[07:28] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> didnt it helP/
[07:28] <c0nfidencal> new version of ubuntu?
[07:28] <c0nfidencal> nop
[07:28] <afboy143> I don't want to run windows, I want to run my installs for installs for my mobo drivers, nvidia card, and other games
[07:28] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> afboy143: wine can emulate windows softwares. vmware can emulate windows
[07:28] <esters> c0nfidencal, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:28] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> u cant do that i guess! drivers are available for Linux
[07:29] <c0nfidencal> tried
[07:29] <c0nfidencal> it works
[07:29] <c0nfidencal> but i cant change Hz
[07:29] <c0nfidencal> :|
[07:29] <c0nfidencal> and 60Hz fucks my eyes :P
[07:29] <c0nfidencal> it doesnt change even when i edit xorg.conf
[07:29] <MNGRVE> lol
[07:29] <PopeOfWar> Is there somebody in here that can tell me where the /includes/ directory is in linux???
[07:29] <iLLf8d> anyone higher up in the ubuntu foodchain in here?
[07:29] <cRiM|> can someone here help me get the internet working on my installed version of ubuntu?
[07:29] <afboy143> So i have to download linux drivers, I can use the cd that came with my mobo?
[07:30] <c0nfidencal> afboy143, the cd which came with ur mobo
[07:30] <MNGRVE> if they were very high up, would they be in tech support?
[07:30] <c0nfidencal> is for windows probably
[07:30] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> afboy143: u need linux drivers. windows drivers wont work
[07:30] <cRiM|> no thats a lie
[07:30] <PopeOfWar> cRiM|: I've been trying to fix my internet problem for 4 days, LMAO
[07:30] <cRiM|> my mobo had linux drivers on it
[07:30] <iLLf8d> MNGRVE they may be having fun this channel cracks me up with some of the questions asked
[07:30] <c0nfidencal> whats ur mobo manufacturer? :o!
[07:30] <MNGRVE> like what? :D
[07:30] <iLLf8d> MNGRVE some nights it has me in stiches
[07:30] <afboy143> Thanks Pun
[07:30] <afboy143> my mobo is Asus
[07:30] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: you mean /usr/include ??
[07:30] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> no problemo!
[07:30] <cRiM|> pepeofwar: errm.. for some reason on the installed version it doesn't think my ethernet card has a internet protocol..
[07:30] <iLLf8d> MNGRVE that and its fun to help at times
[07:31] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> u need individual drivers afboy. you can emulate drivers
[07:31] <afboy143> Asus A8N32-SLI
[07:31] <Kewlb> gonna need to download the codecs and compile mplayer yourself blackjordan
[07:31] <Kewlb> oops, wrong scrollback msg, lol
[07:31] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: I guess so... I will look for it there, lol. I coudn't find it anywhere
[07:31] <afboy143> does asus provide linux drivers?
[07:31] <Kewlb> anyone have a URL for the best guide for setting up MythTV on Dapper?
[07:31] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> yup maybe. wait a sec. lemme check
[07:32] <c0nfidencal> bah
[07:32] <cherubiel> afboy143: check on the asus site, they should have something in downloads
[07:32] <c0nfidencal> any 6.06 user which has installed drivers successfully? :p
[07:32] <c0nfidencal> nvidia drivers*
[07:32] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: I have a /usr/include/ directory... would that be the same thing? I'm trying to install NIC Drivers...
[07:32] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> confidencal: just did it daoy
[07:32] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> *today
[07:32] <c0nfidencal> hm
[07:32] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: wats the problem?
[07:32] <c0nfidencal> and u used which guide?
[07:32] <MNGRVE> which one is 6.06?
[07:32] <c0nfidencal> dapper?
[07:32] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> yeah
[07:32] <MNGRVE> yes
[07:32] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> now i get the nvidia logo on startup
[07:32] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> afboy: you there?
[07:32] <MNGRVE> i have an nvidia card and it's working for me
[07:33] <cherubiel> we can't help u unless you tell us *what* your problem is!
[07:33] <hitodama> Hello, I have grub issues
[07:33] <c0nfidencal> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, so help me?
[07:33] <c0nfidencal> or MNGRVE
[07:33] <c0nfidencal> :p
[07:33] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok. confidencal. just wait
[07:33] <PopeOfWar> cheruiel: I can't connect to the internet with my integrated NIC, so I bought a new one and I downloaded the drivers. Now I need to compile them and put them in the drivers folder.
[07:33] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> lemme check what i gave u
[07:33] <c0nfidencal> sure
[07:33] <hitodama> I have a SATA drive with nothing but ubuntu on it, and two IDE drives, one with windows on it
[07:33] <cRiM|> cherubiel: do you know why on the live version my ethernet card has a internet protocol.. but on the installed version it doesn't..?
[07:33] <hitodama> I used a live cd, and typed in sudo grub
[07:33] <hitodama> but I can't seem to find any devices
[07:34] <george008> anyone running Ubuntu on a Dell C600 ?
[07:34] <cherubiel> cRiM|: the live version prolly correctly probes your h/w and loads the correct modules
[07:34] <hitodama> I get to a grub prompt, but I can't setup anything because it always tells me that I'm giving it an invalid device
[07:34] <hitodama> any ideas?
[07:34] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> afboy: u there or gone?
[07:34] <cRiM|> cherbuiel: do you know how i would fix that
[07:34] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> confidencal: u there?
[07:34] <Hoxzer> Btw, does anybody know where SAmuli^ is from?
[07:34] <c0nfidencal> yes
[07:34] <c0nfidencal> :)
[07:34] <Hoxzer> sounds like finnish name
[07:34] <cherubiel> cRiM|: your hardware? sorry i missed your earlier posts
[07:34] <PopeOfWar> cRiM|: What kind of NIC do you have? Are you on a network?
[07:34] <Hoxzer> c0nfidencal: finland?
[07:34] <MNGRVE> heyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[07:35] <iLLf8d> lol
[07:35] <boink> it's just a nick, it could be from anywhere
[07:35] <MNGRVE> i have a problem now
[07:35] <c0nfidencal> Hoxzer, latvia
[07:35] <c0nfidencal> ^^
[07:35] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok hang on
[07:35] <Hoxzer> :O
[07:35] <c0nfidencal> neighbour atlmost :P
[07:35] <iLLf8d> the noob I'm helping keeps rebooting
[07:35] <hitodama> can people see my text?
[07:35] <iLLf8d> I guess he's from the windows world
[07:35] <c0nfidencal> neighbor*
[07:35] <MNGRVE> yes, hitodama
[07:35] <cRiM|> yes im connected to a wireless router.. but it assigns ips automatically.. and it is a 10/100 intel that came with my motherboard
[07:35] <PopeOfWar> hitodama: No... we have absolutely no idea that you're even in here...
[07:35] <afboy143> Man this linux is complicated
[07:35] <hitodama> just checking :p
[07:35] <hitodama> so no one has any ideas? I'm really confused
[07:36] <cherubiel> cRiM|: OK so wireless!
[07:36] <MNGRVE> is there a way to figure out what device is mounted to where?
[07:36] <decherdtt> grub> root (hd
[07:36] <decherdtt>  Possible disks are:  hd0 hd1 hd2
[07:36] <cherubiel> !wireless > cRiM|
[07:36] <cRiM|> nope..
[07:36] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> confidencal: damn it i lost the link
[07:36] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> hell
[07:36] <cRiM|> its not wireless..
[07:36] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> wait . m looking for it. dont go :)
[07:36] <Mille> I'm rading on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo - doesn't Network Manager come with ubuntu?
[07:36] <ladydoor> MNGRVE: df
[07:36] <MNGRVE> thanks
[07:36] <cherubiel> MNGRVE: just type mount
[07:36] <teleyinex> someone has a sip account?
[07:36] <cRiM|> well it can be.. but i have ethernet cable connected..
[07:36] <c0nfidencal> ok :P
[07:36] <teleyinex> i want to try ekiga
[07:36] <Mille> (the bottom of the page)
[07:37] <fdsd> Hey guys, I am taking apart my initrd file, I have a bunch of startup scripts and folders and I dont know what they are for, could anyone explain?  they are casper, casper-bottom casper-premount init-bottom init-premount init-top local-botttom local-premount local-top nfs-bottom etc..  Any idea?
[07:37] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> people. meanwhile please help me make my linux geeky
[07:37] <c0nfidencal> what do u mean geeky?
[07:37] <c0nfidencal> :D
[07:37] <cRiM|> cherubiel: im not using wireless
[07:37] <ladydoor> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: how geeky?
[07:37] <MNGRVE> and is there a way to stop my usb flash disk from mounting automatically?
[07:38] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ladydoor: i mean people should say - wow! this guy is a kernel hacker. he is a geenius:)
[07:38] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> confidencal: check this baby http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[07:38] <c0nfidencal> :DD
[07:38] <c0nfidencal> sec
[07:38] <hitodama> okay, I typed in root (hd1,0) and it found my linux root partition, thanks
[07:38] <|Zephyr|> I'm trying to excute a makefile, but it tells me that it can't find /lib/modules/build... what am I supposed to do now?
[07:39] <hitodama> what's the next step?
[07:39] <ladydoor> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: step 1:  learn to hack a kernel. step 2:  take an internet iq test, take a screenshot of your results (which will be high on any internet iq test, as they're fake), and make that your desktop background :-)
[07:39] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> anyone out there who can make my edubuntu look geeky to impress my gf :)
[07:39] <cherubiel> cRiM|: lspci|grep eth
[07:39] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ladydoor: kernel hacking started. test taken. got 99. nerd god
[07:39] <cherubiel> what does that give?
[07:39] <cRiM|> cherubiel: what?
[07:39] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> hey confidencal, lost in translation?
[07:39] <Arrick> whats the command to install ubuntu breezy desktop?
[07:39] <hitodama> I've heard that I can't boot off a SATA drive when I have IDE drives in my system, is that right?
[07:40] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Arrick: What?
[07:40] <ladydoor> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: lol. great! but you might check out ratpoison for real effect. http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison
[07:40] <iLLf8d> whats the politically correct way to change term settings in ubuntu?
[07:40] <cherubiel> cRiM|: post the output here
[07:40] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ladydoor: lol. ok lemme see.
[07:40] <cRiM|> cherubiel: where do i type that
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> iLLf8d,  which term setting? or you mean THE term setting?
[07:40] <c0nfidencal> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, :DD
[07:40] <master_blaster> i'm trying to find some help on mounting my ipod on ubuntu using gtkpod and tutorial here (http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-use-an-ipod-with-ubuntu)
[07:40] <Arrick> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, I have a basic server install, I want to add the breezy desktop to it, as the server is breezy
[07:40] <c0nfidencal> i installed but i think it wont work :|
[07:40] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ladydoor: LOL
[07:40] <Arrick> whats the command to install it?
[07:40] <c0nfidencal> lemme restart x's
[07:40] <cherubiel> cRiM|: open up a terminal and issue that command
[07:40] <c0nfidencal> ILL BE BACK
[07:40] <c0nfidencal> :D
[07:40] <ladydoor> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: also, learn emacs :-)
[07:40] <iLLf8d> I want to change its bg color and whatnot
[07:41] <iLLf8d> I was gonna do it in alternatives but I doubt they want me doing that
[07:41] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Arrick: ok. not sure bout this. u tried synaptic?
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> iLLf8d,  you refering to the terminal programs like konsole? or in the console?
[07:41] <hitodama> setup (hd0) says it can't find grub stage 1
[07:41] <cherubiel> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: a reall nerd/g33k would *never* use gui, cli(command line interface) is a way of life  - you see :P
[07:41] <hitodama> setup (hd1) says the same thing
[07:41] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ladydoor: LOLZZZZZZZZ. This is what i need
[07:41] <ticta1> hello.  I'm pretty sure I messed up my xauth... permissions, I guess.  I can't start most programs unless I use sudo and I'm kind of afraid to restart X
[07:41] <iLLf8d> whatever the term is in ubuntu lemme fire it up and see what it is I assume its a gnome term of some kind
[07:41] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> tictal: restart X
[07:41] <cRiM|> cherubiel: didn't do anything..
[07:41] <ladydoor> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: lol. i haven't (willingly) used another window manager in months.
[07:41] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> tictal: dont be afraid
[07:41] <iLLf8d> yeah its gnome terminal
[07:42] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ladydoor: how old r u ? me just 17. lol
[07:42] <PopeOfWar> How do I setup and run this Makefile for my NIC Drviers???????
[07:42] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> confidencal: baby u there?
[07:42] <iLLf8d> hrm maybe its a new profile or something
[07:42] <|Zephyr|> so I guess /lib/modules/build should point to my kernel source... how do I do that?
[07:42] <ladydoor> iLLf8d: gnome-terminal has some kind of dialog that'll let you change things around
[07:42] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Arrick: solved?
[07:42] <teleyinex> hi
[07:42] <iLLf8d> I've never used gnome terminal before just use rxvt or xterms
[07:42] <teleyinex> someone has a sip account?
[07:42] <ticta1> well I will try it
[07:42] <teleyinex> I want to try out the ekiga softphone
[07:42] <teleyinex> ;)
[07:42] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: if you don't tell us *what* you've done or what error you're getting, none can help!
[07:42] <Arrick> nope not yet
[07:42] <ladydoor> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: i'm 342 & 3/4 years old.
[07:43] <cherubiel> cRiM|: do a lspci and see for entries with "intel" in it..
[07:43] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: I'm not getting any errors and I haven't *done* anything...
[07:43] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ladydoor: lol. u use rat poison?
[07:43] <Arrick> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, its only got terminal when you install the basic server
[07:43] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> OH
[07:43] <afboy143> so what is a good windows emulator
[07:43] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> u installed only basic server?
[07:43] <boink> !wine
[07:43] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:43] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: didnt the driver come with any README/INSTALL ???
[07:43] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> afboy: wine for softwares. if u need to run windows, use vmware
[07:43] <cRiM|> cherubiel: 0000:02:07.0 Ethernet controller: Davicom Semiconductor, Inc. 21x4x DEC-Tulip co mpatible 10/100 Ethernet (rev 40)
[07:43] <ladydoor> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: yup.
[07:43] <Kewlb> anyone have a URL for the best guide for setting up MythTV on Dapper?
[07:44] <fdoving> !mythtv
[07:44] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[07:44] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Ladydoor: r u insane? OMG. U r a nerd GOD then.
[07:44] <cherubiel> cRiM|: you seem to have not intel but a different controller!!
[07:44] <fyrestrtr> !u
[07:44] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[07:44] <Kewlb> those instructions are not very good fdoving
[07:44] <cRiM|> it told me intel from the motherboard..
[07:44] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Arrick: there?
[07:44] <cRiM|> and when i look at the device manager
[07:44] <Kewlb> and they are also NOT for Dapper
[07:44] <ladydoor> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: no i'm not--my keyboard doesn't work. i don't even program
[07:44] <boink> U hebt gelijk, meneer
[07:44] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ladydoor - oh come on
[07:44] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> confidencal?
[07:44] <fdoving> Kewlb: ok, then i don't. please message ubotu with the new url, if you find a good guide.
[07:44] <Asc> ladydoor, have you tried Ion?  If so, is there a reason you prefer ratpoison?
[07:44] <ladydoor> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: this is going offtopic, sorry
[07:45] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ladydoor - agreed
[07:45] <cRiM|> cherubiel: how can i get it to work on the installed version then?
[07:45] <ticta1> phew.  okay, I forget who told me to just restart, but it worked, thank you
[07:45] <Kewlb> aight, just gonna try to use what I have and will document anything that goes wrong, heh
[07:45] <cherubiel> cRiM|: modproble dmfe
[07:45] <ladydoor> Asc: no window dressings in ratpoison, i don't have to learn lua, and i think the keybindings are more intuitive. *shrug*
[07:45] <cherubiel> cRiM|: open up a terminal, run this as root
[07:46] <cRiM|> says command not found
[07:46] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> isnt there absolutely no way to modify the startup  process messages?
[07:46] <cherubiel> cRiM|: are you doin this as root or sudo ?
[07:46] <kmasta> Hi, i just downloaded the JDE from the repos and I don't know what to do to fire it up and start coding in java
[07:46] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: Yes... and it says, exactly, "4. This program can be compiled using the attached Makefile. Please remember to SPECIFY "NEW_INCLUDE_PATH" in Makefile according to your Linux environment. The object file named fa311v2.o should be moved to the directory /lib/modules/<linux-version>/kernel/drivers/net The driver could be brought up by the following steps: 'insmod fa311v2'  'ifconfig...
[07:46] <PopeOfWar> ...eth0 up'
[07:46] <fyrestrtr> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: no.
[07:46] <cRiM|> sudo
[07:46] <eZe>  k
[07:47] <Asc> ladydoor: Okay, thanks.
[07:47] <Telroth_Plushie|> kmasta, sudo apt-get install sun-java-5.0 eclipse
[07:47] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: ./configure&&make
[07:47] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: once thats done, do a sudo make install
[07:47] <ladydoor> Asc: np. a lot of people like ion, though.
[07:47] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> how to run CHM files on ubuntu?
[07:47] <MNGRVE> hey, if i was copying things, and then i got "omitting directory '/source/disk'" what would you think?
[07:47] <cherubiel> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: xchm
[07:47] <eZe>  My apologies for the interruption...is there anyone here familiar with ubuntu's Dapper Drake?
[07:47] <fyrestrtr> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: there is a viewer for them in the repos. Install xchm
[07:47] <iLLf8d> anyone know how to reveal the toolbar in a gnome termina?
[07:47] <Telroth_Plushie|> kmasta, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk eclipse
[07:47] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: Where do I put that, and what does it do? Is that what I need to put for NEW_INCLUDE_PATH?
[07:47] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> aah thanks. lemme check
[07:48] <fyrestrtr> eZe: about 800 or so pepople.
[07:48] <kmasta> what is that?
[07:48] <eZe>  ughtud, thank you fyrestrtr
[07:48] <cRiM|> cherubiel: using sudo.. says it isn't a command
[07:48] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> fyrestrtr: thanks
[07:48] <c0nfidencal> damn!
[07:48] <cherubiel> cRiM|: run su
[07:48] <c0nfidencal> shit happens, doesnt work
[07:48] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> confidencal!
[07:48] <c0nfidencal> :D
[07:48] <fyrestrtr> eZe: please turn off that script or whatever it is.
[07:48] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> can u see the nvidia logo?
[07:48] <cherubiel> cRiM|: provide root password, and then do the modprobe
[07:48] <c0nfidencal> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, can you give me ya xorg.conf file? :p
[07:48] <c0nfidencal> nope, no nvidia logo
[07:48] <c0nfidencal> :|
[07:48] <ladydoor> !language
[07:48] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:49] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> lol
[07:49] <iLLf8d> nm I used the  --window-with-profile=Default option
[07:49] <Elohimus> I'm having issues with apt-get. A program wouldn't install yesterday and that's fine, but now I can't use apt-get to install anything because it comes back with: The package python-ctypes needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[07:49] <cRiM|> ok now it works.. but it doesn't show anything
[07:49] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: What do I do with "./configure&&make"?
[07:49] <jmitchj> to get MP3's played what to i have to get?
[07:49] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> confidencal: ask ubotu the link
[07:49] <kmasta> Telroth_Plushie| , what does that do?
[07:49] <fyrestrtr> !info python-ctypes
[07:49] <ubotu> python-ctypes: Python package to create and manipulate C data types. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.6+cvs20051031-1 (dapper), package size 41 kB, installed size 124 kB
[07:49] <cherubiel> cRiM|: try to restart the network and try
[07:49] <c0nfidencal> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, what link
[07:49] <cRiM|> cherubiel: restart the network?
[07:49] <fyrestrtr> Elohimus: try re-installing it?
[07:50] <fyrestrtr> !mp3 > jmitchj
[07:50] <Elohimus> fyrestrtr: not working
[07:50] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> jmitchj: XMMS
[07:50] <cherubiel> cRiM|: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:50] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> use this
[07:50] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> sudo apt-get install xmms
[07:50] <fyrestrtr> Elohimus: try sudo apt-get install -f
[07:50] <Elohimus> I did
[07:50] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> confidencal
[07:50] <Elohimus> Not working. :(
[07:50] <c0nfidencal> ?
[07:50] <fyrestrtr> Elohimus: what mirrors are you using?
[07:50] <c0nfidencal> what?
[07:50] <fyrestrtr> Elohimus: are you on dapper or edgy?
[07:51] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> jmitchj: sudo apt-get install xmms
[07:51] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> did it work or not?
[07:51] <Elohimus> dapper
[07:51] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> can u see the nvidia logo
[07:51] <c0nfidencal> no
[07:51] <c0nfidencal> no nvidia logo :X
[07:51] <MNGRVE> hey, i'm having a rather large problem
[07:51] <MNGRVE> i have a USB flash disk
[07:51] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> cant u ask  ubotu
[07:51] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> whoever he is
[07:51] <MNGRVE> and i can see the files on there
[07:51] <c0nfidencal> !!! :X
[07:51] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:51] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i dont know. m new to IRC
[07:51] <ladydoor> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: a bot
[07:51] <MNGRVE> but it won't let me copy them
[07:52] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> lol
[07:52] <PopeOfWar> LMAO
[07:52] <fyrestrtr> !enter
[07:52] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[07:52] <cRiM|> cherubiel: sudo modprobe dmfe doesn't show anything after i type it
[07:52] <jmitchj> i get this message: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:52] <jmitchj> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:52] <cherubiel> MNGRVE: steps you did ?
[07:52] <GTX> How long does ntfresize normaly take? My friend is resizing his windows partition and its been going now for 10/20 minutes
[07:52] <MNGRVE> 1.plug it in
[07:52] <eZe> whew...took me awhile to remember how to turn my script off
[07:52] <fyrestrtr> jmitchj: close synaptic
[07:52] <eZe> lol
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> jmitchj, well....  is another process using it?
[07:52] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> jmitchj: did u give the root password?
[07:52] <iLLf8d> hrm how do I turn the antialiasing off on gnome terminals?
[07:52] <Elohimus> fyrestrtr: still want that sources list?
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> process = program :P
[07:52] <cherubiel> cRiM|: that is the step to load the module for your driver.. if no error are seens, the module install should be successful
[07:52] <MNGRVE> 2. mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb
[07:53] <cRiM|> ok
[07:53] <lehel> hello
[07:53] <fyrestrtr> Elohimus: sounds like a bug in the package itself, have you checked launchpad?
[07:53] <jmitchj> i am getting the updates...is that what is causing it?
[07:53] <MNGRVE> 3. cp /mnt/usb /media/hda6
[07:53] <Elohimus> launchpad?
[07:53] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: Please just answer this one question... what do I do with the ./configure&&make?? I don't want to do anything that f*cks my system up, lol
[07:53] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> if u r getting the updates, means its being installed
[07:53] <fyrestrtr> jmitchj: yes
[07:53] <MNGRVE> 4. "directory omitted '/mnt/usb'"
[07:53] <fyrestrtr> PopeOfWar: you type it in.
[07:53] <quilty> how do I change which kernel is used? installed the SMP kernel using Synaptic but the system is still using only one cpu (yes, I rebooted, checking for cpus with cat /proc/cpuinfo)
[07:53] <eZe> Would anyone have the time to discuss with me how to get ubuntu Dapper Drake to autodetect my modem
[07:54] <MNGRVE> and i can open it with nautilus, and copying never stops
[07:54] <cherubiel> MNGRVE: cp -r /mnt/usb /meda/hd6
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> the grub menu should show a list of kernel
[07:54] <PopeOfWar> fyrestrtr: Where, though?
[07:54] <eZe> I've learned that I have a winmodem
[07:54] <Elohimus> fyrestrtr: well, I don't care much about the package, I just want to be able to install other things.
[07:54] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> how can i see which version of kernel i m using?
[07:54] <jmitchj> ok...so i'll just wait til their done
[07:54] <eZe> I've installed scanmodem
[07:54] <fyrestrtr> quilty: uname -a shows the new kernel?
[07:54] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: that simply compiles the source code your downloaded
[07:54] <jmitchj> thanks
[07:54] <MNGRVE> what does -r do?
[07:54] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> jmitchj: just wait
[07:54] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> then u will be able to play MP3s
[07:54] <eZe> Opened the command line and typed the commands as instructed
[07:54] <eZe> What next?
[07:54] <LukeDuke> algum do brasil?
[07:54] <cherubiel> MNGRVE: maybe you should try man cp
[07:54] <fyrestrtr> !br
[07:54] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[07:54] <quilty> fyrestrtr: nope, still the old one (without SMP)
[07:54] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: Where do I put it, though? In terminal, or in the NEW_INCLUDE_PATH?
[07:55] <lehel> Administrative Applecation wont start?, i see the opening window: "Starting Administrative Application", but then just closes
[07:55] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> how to find the kernel version no?
[07:55] <c0nfidencal> damn
[07:55] <MNGRVE> chrubiel: i would, but i haven't had the time, considering i just got this today
[07:55] <c0nfidencal> linux reminds me alot of gay
[07:55] <c0nfidencal> @_@
[07:55] <lehel> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: uname -a
[07:55] <fyrestrtr> quilty: then maybe that's why. Check what's in grub. See if the new one is the default kernel.
[07:55] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: open a terminal. navigate to the folder where you have the makefile and isse the command
[07:55] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> lehel: thanks
[07:55] <nexx> mep
[07:55] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: Ok, thank you.
[07:55] <MNGRVE> okay, now i get cp: reading `/mnt/usb/file.txt': Input/output error
[07:56] <MrFeetio> !compiz
[07:56] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:56] <cherubiel> MNGRVE: :), ok so you got some stuff copied right? this is another problem :P
[07:56] <MNGRVE> i didn't get anything copied
[07:56] <MNGRVE> that's the first file
[07:56] <crashd> anyone using audacious on ubuntu about?
[07:56] <lehel> what about my "Administrative Application" ? i can't "go" Advanced on "Install/Remove Packages",
[07:56] <thetictacadd1ct> I have a second server running on Display :1, and when I try to run, say, DISPLAY=:1 xterm, I get an error like this:       Xlib: connection to ":1.0" refused by server        Xlib: No protocol specified
[07:57] <lehel> i should log in as root to X? to start the "Administrative Application"?
[07:57] <eZe> Would someone be willing to help me concerning ubuntu Dapper Drake?
[07:57] <ladydoor> lehel: no! use gksudo
[07:57] <fyrestrtr> thetictacadd1ct: are you running that from within X?
[07:57] <MNGRVE> any ideas, cherubiel?
[07:57] <fyrestrtr> !anyone
[07:57] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:57] <ladydoor> lehel: <alt>F2, gksudo commandname <enter>
[07:57] <cherubiel> MNGRVE: try copying some other file, it could be some h/w issue
[07:57] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> eze: shoot
[07:57] <thetictacadd1ct> fyrestrtr: yes, should I try it from a terminal?
[07:58] <PopeOfWar> How would I go about putting spaces into a "cd" command? I type in "cd /FA311v2 V1.0/" and it returns /FA311v2: No such file or directory...
[07:58] <nootrope> apache-perl keeps taking port 80 when i want apache2 to do so. where do i tell ubuntu that, please?
[07:58] <fyrestrtr> thetictacadd1ct: it will work from the non-X term.
[07:58] <eZe> Thank you PunjabiFLOYDIAN
[07:58] <eZe> Im trying to get ubuntu to autodetect my modem PunjabiFLOYDIAN
[07:58] <fyrestrtr> PopeOfWar: cd /FA311v2\ V1.0/
[07:58] <MNGRVE> cherubiel: it works with XP
[07:58] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> oh. i dont know bout this. but i can try.
[07:58] <ladydoor> PopeOfWar: technically, enclosig "FA3etc." in quotes (with the filename instead of etc.) will do the trick, or doing backslashes before spaces
[07:58] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> eze: dialup?
[07:59] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: /FA311v2\ V1.0/
[07:59] <lehel> ladydoor: and what would be the executable of the "Administrative Application" ? other words i'm trying to install konsole from Install/Remove Packages, and i need to go Advanced, can't
[07:59] <ladydoor> PopeOfWar: OR you could use bash's handy-dandy tab-completion feature and hit tab
[07:59] <Koffa> I need to run pain shop pro but it requires directx - I take it that wine is out of the question? what next - winex? cedega? crossover office?
[07:59] <MrFeetio> when will the compiz repositories be fixed?
[07:59] <PopeOfWar> thanl you
[07:59] <PopeOfWar> thank* you
[07:59] <eZe> I've downloaded "scanmodem" and opened a command line typing in the commands as instructed PunjabiFLOYDIAN
[07:59] <Koffa> anyone have any first-hand experience?
[07:59] <eZe> unfortunatly PunjabiFLOYDIAN
[07:59] <ladydoor> lehel: i don't know what any of that is except for konsole. why not do sudo aptitude install console in a terminal instead?
[07:59] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> eze: u on dialup?
[07:59] <iLLf8d> !easysource
[07:59] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:59] <ladydoor> lehel: much simpler
[07:59] <eZe> yes PunjabiFLOYDIAN
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> Koffa,  crossover office is designed to run  apps like that. but check their compatiabiltiy list.  of course I perfer GIMP
[08:00] <ladydoor> lehel: *and replace "console" in what i said with "konsole," of course
[08:00] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> eze: really sorry. but cant help u. try asking ubotu
[08:00] <Koffa> Dr_Willis: me too, not my comp :)
[08:00] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> eze: any other problem, please ask.
[08:00] <Koffa> but thx
[08:01] <thetictacadd1ct> fyrestrtr: I tried it a couple times, but I get the same error
[08:01] <lehel> ladydoor: good point, but why do you use allways use the "sudo" before a command? [i assume default is not being root, that's why] 
[08:01] <eZe> Thank you for your time nonetheless PunjabiFLOYDIAN!!
[08:01] <fyrestrtr> thetictacadd1ct: hrmm, try xinit
[08:01] <Paddy_EIRE> !sudo
[08:01] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:01] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> eze: no problem.
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> Koffa,  install gimp.. rename the icon to PaintShopProBeta3.1
[08:01] <fyrestrtr> thetictacadd1ct: and try it with sudo
[08:01] <ladydoor> lehel: it's because to install a program you need to be or "be" root. sudo gives you temporary superuser powers
[08:02] <grothesk_> Is kernel 2.6.15-27-686 built without v4l support?
[08:02] <lehel> ladydoor: i activated the root user, i'm allways root with just a "su" command,
[08:02] <c0nfidencal> !kernel
[08:02] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[08:02] <ladydoor> lehel: ok, if you prefer to su, do that and do aptitude install konsole.
[08:02] <cherubiel> eZe: whats the ouput of scanmodem?
[08:02] <lehel> ladydoor: right, done!
[08:02] <ladydoor> lehel: sweet!
[08:02] <Koffa> Dr_Willis: harhar
[08:02] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ubotu: is there any deb command?
[08:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is there any deb command? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <Koffa> crossover lists psp 4.15 :D
[08:02] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok
[08:02] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> :D
[08:02] <ladydoor> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: i think you're looking for dpkg
[08:03] <Koffa> latest is XI :)
[08:03] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ladydoor: i m reading on how to install xgl
[08:03] <PopeOfWar> Ok, I was at zach@DellUbuntu:~/Desktop/FA311v2 V1.0/LINUX/2.4.x$ I typed in, "./configure&&make" and it returned "bash: ./configre: No such file or directory"
[08:03] <eZe> I think the purpose of the scanmodem is to determine what chipset I have cherubiel
[08:03] <thetictacadd1ct> fyrestrtr: aha! okay, I had started the second server from xfce4-terminal.  when I started it and ran the command on tty terminals it worked
[08:03] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i m reading this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[08:03] <ladydoor> lehel: in general it's easier, esp. if you know the packagename, to just type it in :-)
[08:03] <eZe> I base that on the reading Ive done thus far
[08:03] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> it says : debb and stuff
[08:03] <fyrestrtr> PopeOfWar: its ./configure && make
[08:03] <ladydoor> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: sorry, i've never installed xgl
[08:03] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ladydoor: ok thanks.
[08:03] <Paddy_EIRE> how come I am unable to get into the #python channel?? (I have a registered nick)
[08:03] <cherubiel> eZe: right, it should give a report of the probed chipset
[08:03] <PopeOfWar> fyrestrtr: Oh, lmao, thanks
[08:03] <cherubiel> eZe: whats the problem then?
[08:04] <PopeOfWar> fyrestrtr: I get the same error...
[08:04] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> anyone help me using Xgl?
[08:04] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> will be very thankfull
[08:04] <fyrestrtr> PopeOfWar: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:04] <fyrestrtr> PopeOfWar: then do it.
[08:04] <eZe> I'm not sure what to do next cherubiel, and I was hoping someone here may have experinced this particular issue
[08:04] <Paddy_EIRE> #ubuntu-xgl
[08:04] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok thanks
[08:04] <ladydoor> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: the deb command you're looking at is actually a line that goes in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:05] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> oh!!!!!!!!
[08:05] <iLLf8d> heh
[08:05] <cherubiel> eZe: did you get ModemData.txt in the Modem folder ?
[08:05] <iLLf8d> ladydoor: stunnedem
[08:05] <fyrestrtr> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: suggest you don't try xgl -- it experimental, and judging from your linux newbiness, you might be in a world of hurt :)
[08:05] <eZe> Yes, I did cherubiel
[08:05] <ladydoor> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: so first, back that file up (sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak) and then edit it (sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list)
[08:05] <ladydoor> iLLf8d: sorry, what?
[08:05] <Paddy_EIRE> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: have you found any guides for doing this? or are you just starting now
[08:06] <iLLf8d> nm
[08:06] <cherubiel> eZe: use a pastebin, paste the contents there.
[08:06] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> fyrestrtr: please please lemme try it! just for fun
[08:06] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> :D
[08:06] <fyrestrtr> well, okay -- I'm not going to stop you -- good luck.
[08:06] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> PADDY_EIRE: Just started! no problem if i mess up.
[08:06] <eZe> Paste the contents of modemdatta....where?
[08:06] <fyrestrtr> but you have been warned.
[08:06] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> thanks!
[08:06] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> where to start pesaea?
[08:06] <iLLf8d> just say no!
[08:06] <iLLf8d> heh
[08:06] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> *please?
[08:07] <lehel> ladydoor: i did know that it's easier, but i was curious why the Administrative Application wont start in X,
[08:07] <iLLf8d> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: theres probably a wiki page for it somewhere googles your friend
[08:07] <Byan> I manage to create what I think should work as an init.d script, how do I link to it and where?
[08:07] <lehel> [still curious though] 
[08:07] <cherubiel> !paste > eZe
[08:07] <fyrestrtr> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: start by installing the drivers for your video card.
[08:07] <Paddy_EIRE> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: Ok ill get you the guide I used
[08:07] <ladydoor> lehel: i don't know--i avoid graphikal applications altogether if i can avoid it.
[08:07] <ladydoor> lehel: sorry
[08:07] <PopeOfWar> fyrestrtr: Is this normal? It returned, "Reading package lists... done *new line* Building dependency tree... Done *new line* Package build-essential is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source *new line* E: Package build-essential has no installation candidate"
[08:07] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> PADDY_EIRE: Thanks!
[08:07] <eZe> I'm sorry... cherubiel: Paste the contents of ModemData...where?
[08:07] <Paddy_EIRE> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: what grfx card you got
[08:07] <cherubiel> !paste
[08:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:07] <SlackRat> Paddie, im totally off topic here, but are you irish? i have a question
[08:07] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> nvidia geforce mx 400
[08:08] <fyrestrtr> PopeOfWar: run sudo apt-get update
[08:08] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[08:08] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> it supports 3d acceleration
[08:08] <smoked1> Whats the page to check for laptop compatability?
[08:08] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> checked
[08:08] <fyrestrtr> !laptops > smoked1
[08:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about laptops - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:08] <fyrestrtr> !laptop > smoked1
[08:08] <SlackRat> whats the best irish accent youve heard in recent films, i need one for a play im doing
[08:08] <smoked1> thanks
[08:08] <boink> try Belfast :)
[08:08] <smoked1> !laptops
[08:08] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> SlackRat: LOL. how is this related to Ubuntu
[08:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about laptops - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:08] <PopeOfWar> fyrestrtr: The only reason why I'm in here is because I have no internet, lmao, that didn't work.
[08:08] <PopeOfWar> lol
[08:09] <SlackRat> i said it was off topic floydian facist
[08:09] <lehel> ladydoor: right, me to; but i installed this distro to a friend of my, who doesn't really has clue about linux, and i thought everything can be done in the graphical environment
[08:09] <SlackRat> heh
[08:09] <Paddy_EIRE> SlackRat: dot use richard Gear as ur exanple anyway
[08:09] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> SlackRat: Facist?
[08:09] <boink> just listen to rte radio, and you'll be fine
[08:09] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> LOL
[08:09] <Paddy_EIRE> lol, typing all messed up today
[08:09] <SlackRat> heh, or decaprrio
[08:09] <ladydoor> lehel: yeah, i don't know. i'd suggest sticking with synaptic/adapt in that case
[08:09] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> PADDY: where is the guide dude?
[08:10] <eZe> cherubiel: ubotu has directed me to a "paste bin"?
[08:10] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Paddy: please help! i m waiting
[08:10] <fyrestrtr> !xgl > PunjabiFLOYDIAN
[08:10] <nearfar|erc> ubuntulog:
[08:10] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> fyrestrtr: yeah
[08:10] <eZe> Do you still have the patience to continue with me cherubiel?
[08:11] <fyrestrtr> that's the guide.
[08:11] <cherubiel> eZe: you can't paste in the channel, paste the content in the pastebin and give us the link
[08:11] <cherubiel> eZe: :)
[08:11] <Jimmi_jones> !pastebin <eZe>
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin <eZe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <eZe> I see...
[08:11] <Arrick> whats the terminal command to see who all is logged in from a remote location to a ubuntu breezt box,
[08:11] <fyrestrtr> Arrick: w
[08:11] <shedi> Arrick, w
[08:11] <cherubiel> Arrick: w
[08:11] <cherubiel> :P
[08:11] <fyrestrtr> copycats
[08:11] <cherubiel> fyrestrtr wins :P
[08:12] <shedi> :)
[08:12] <fyrestrtr> double-u
[08:12] <cherubiel> man, the superman spng from five for fighting is so darn inspiring!!
[08:12] <smoked1> How do I get my embedded broadcom wireless going?
[08:13] <fyrestrtr> !broadcom
[08:13] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:13] <Paddy_EIRE> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: this is one of the more up to date guides around  http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/1000081 ....should have less probs :)
[08:13] <PopeOfWar> Is there anybody who still has patience enough to assist me with my NIC Driver problem?
[08:13] <Arrick> whats the terminal command to see who all is logged into a box via ssh?
[08:14] <PopeOfWar> ./configure&&make doesn't work...
[08:14] <Arrick> fyrestrtr, ^^
[08:14] <b14ck73425> anyone have any good techno tracks i can have?
[08:14] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> PADDY: Thanks! lets keep our fingers crossed
[08:14] <PopeOfWar> sudo apt-get update doesn't work... I have not internet connection, lol
[08:14] <PopeOfWar> no*
[08:14] <b14ck73425> or does anyone know of any good beat generators like hammerhead?
[08:14] <RMorris84> ok i gotta problem, i got my system running good, then i did an update last night it installed the 2.6.15-27-386 kernel and my system was running soooo good on the 2.6.15-26-386 kernel, basically took out my broadcom wireless... so i slicked my drive bc i couldnt get it working and now when i reinstalled ubuntu and did the updates, it installed that same (p.o.s.) kernel and my card wont work no matter what i do, so how do i stop ubuntu 
[08:14] <fyrestrtr> b14ck73425: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[08:15] <fyrestrtr> PopeOfWar: then you are stuck, because you need to install build-essential tools first.
[08:16] <cpw> Arrick: who
[08:16] <PopeOfWar> fyrestrtr: Am I able to download them with my working computer, then somehow move them over to my Ubuntu machine?
[08:16] <RMorris84> or how can i remove the 2.6.15-27-386 kernel from my system?
[08:16] <ladydoor> smoked1: check out ndiswrapper. there is a native driver, as well, so you might check that out too
[08:16] <Paddy_EIRE> why do ppl feel the need to play crappy new metal alongside XGL vids
[08:16] <ladydoor> !ndiswrapper > smoked1
[08:16] <PopeOfWar> fyrestrtr: I mean, I know how I can move them over, but how would I install them?
[08:16] <fyrestrtr> is your working computer running linux?
[08:16] <vdepizzol> can I install speech recognition in ubuntu?
[08:16] <PopeOfWar> fyrestrtr: Is it possible?
[08:16] <Arrick> cpw, I am trying to check and see how many, and who is logged into my breezy box from remote
[08:16] <fyrestrtr> PopeOfWar: sure its possible.
[08:16] <PopeOfWar> fyrestrtr: No, I'm on WinXP
[08:17] <cpw> Arrick: I mean run the command who
[08:17] <Arrick> oh ok
[08:17] <cherubiel> cpw: :P
[08:17] <IcyStorm2> How do I get .wmv files to play (I've tried installing VLC, Totem, and MPlayer but they didn't work)?
[08:17] <Arrick> thanks
[08:17] <fyrestrtr> PopeOfWar: hrmm, its a bit of a hassle then.
[08:17] <cherubiel> IcyStorm2: w32codes, get that package
[08:17] <smoked1> ladydoor: how do I get the native driver working? On my centrino laptop everything just worked.
[08:17] <fyrestrtr> IcyStorm2: install the codecs from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:17] <ladydoor> RMorris84: in grub you should be able to press a button to select what kernel you want to boot.
[08:17] <PopeOfWar> fyrestrtr: Well, is there a link somewhere that I can get?
[08:17] <ladydoor> RMorris84: so when you boot select the good one.
[08:18] <fyrestrtr> PopeOfWar: since build-essential is a meta-package, not exactly. Hold a sec.
[08:18] <IcyStorm2> Thank you cherubiel and fyrestrtr
[08:18] <ladydoor> !bcmwxx
[08:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bcmwxx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:18] <PopeOfWar> fyrestrtr: Okay, thanks
[08:18] <ladydoor> !broadcom
[08:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:18] <master_blaster> can anyone offer some help on mounting an ipod?
[08:18] <ladydoor> smoked1: ^^^
[08:18] <Koffa> Dr_Willis: still whines about missing directx
[08:18] <eZe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24544
[08:18] <smoked1> Thanks Ill check it out
[08:18] <eZe> Is that it cherubiel?
[08:18] <cherubiel> ok eZe
[08:19] <RMorris84> ladydoor: when i do that, it does the same thing... so i took the time to redo my drive, i had other reasons also(wanted to setup my partitions a lil better), and when i try to boot into the 26 kernel its messed up and spits out some errors when i do modprob bcm43xx
[08:19] <ladydoor> RMorris84: oh. that...sucks
[08:20] <cpw> hmm
[08:20] <cherubiel> eZe: did you go thrugh the file? its proved the hardware and has even specified steps to install it!!
[08:20] <cherubiel> probed*
[08:20] <cpw> so how do I go about getting input methods setup?
[08:20] <xopher> How do I build the linux-restricted-modules for a specific kernel version?
[08:20] <RMorris84> ladydoor: ur telling me :) so basically how do i stop it from adding the kernel to my system? bc its really f'in  my day up
[08:20] <bl4cktone> Hey guys, I have a problem.  I'm running a Dell 9300 laptop with nvidia 6800go video card.  last night it stayed on no problems but when I left for lunch today I came back and it was on the login screen like it had rebooted.   it alwasy does this when I leave it alone for a few hours.  Any ideas of what is going on??
[08:20] <eZe> Are you saying, everything I need to install it is in that file cherubiel?
[08:21] <cherubiel> eZe: At http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/pctel-linux
[08:21] <cherubiel>  Get the pctel-0.9.7-9-rht-6.tar.gz
[08:21] <ladydoor> RMorris84: i'm sorry...i don't know.
[08:21] <eZe> ok
[08:21] <cherubiel> eZe: and follow steps mentioned thereafter
[08:21] <cherubiel> eZe: good luck!
[08:22] <RMorris84> so basically ubuntu is about to become worthless to me... if i dont have the control to stop it from updating to that kernel... which is a BIG dissappointment
[08:22] <eZe> Thank you very much for your time cherubiel and others !!!
[08:23] <cherubiel> damn, he left before i told him it was beerware :|
[08:23] <PopeOfWar> bye eZe
[08:24] <ladydoor> RMorris84: you might check apt's manual
[08:24] <ladydoor> RMorris84: there should be a way to hold packages at a given version.
[08:24] <sparker> can someone help me?
[08:24] <ladydoor> !someone
[08:24] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:24] <PopeOfWar> ladydoor: You beat me to it, lmoa
[08:24] <PopeOfWar> lmao*
[08:24] <sparker> i am new to
[08:24] <ladydoor> PopeOfWar: haha
[08:25] <sparker> ubuntu
[08:25] <stefg> !enter
[08:25] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[08:25] <cherubiel> sparker: just state your problem.
[08:25] <boink> just ask
[08:25] <Paddy_EIRE> does anyone have any idea when the stable/release version of Xgl/Compiz is coming out
[08:25] <sparker> welll this is going to sound stupid but how do i get more incons on my desktop
[08:25] <stefg> oh no, not that again :-)
[08:25] <PopeOfWar> sparker: I ould suggest writing your WHOLE ENTIRE problem all at once, and only hitting enter one, then everybody's not waiting for your next sentence...
[08:25] <MicettoNero> does anyone use psyco on python 2.5 here?
[08:26] <villmow> how do I add a route to a gateway that doesn't get deleted everytime I restart the network?
[08:26] <sparker> how do i add more icons to my desktop in ubuntu?
[08:26] <boink> villmow: you set that in your /etc/network/interfaces
[08:26] <villmow> ok thanks
[08:26] <ladydoor> sparker: move things into ~/Desktop
[08:27] <Salah> hello. how do I start Openoffice writer via console? I only have a "openoffice"
[08:27] <ed_> Anyone know how to increase the buffer size for streaming files in VLC
[08:27] <Skrot> Salah: oowriter
[08:27] <ladydoor> Salah: oowriter
[08:28] <ladydoor> Salah: (or better, oowriter &)
[08:28] <villmow> boink: its set correctly but still doesn't show up when I do route -n
[08:28] <ladydoor> Salah: (so you can use the terminal for something else even while it's running)
[08:28] <ph8> is there way i can see the last few packages i installed using apt~?
[08:29] <PopeOfWar> ladydoor: Do you know how I would go about downloading the apt-get packages with Windows?
[08:29] <Salah> Skrot, ladydoor, thank you both
[08:30] <josh_> what is the command for doing a grep inside zipped files?
[08:30] <ph8> PopeOfWar: packages.ubuntu.com?
[08:30] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: get the .debs and use dpkg
[08:30] <ladydoor> PopeOfWar: i don't, sorry. listen to ph8 :-)
[08:30] <ladydoor> Salah: np
[08:30] <PopeOfWar> ladydoor: I'm unable to update then with Ubuntu, because I ahve no internet connection.
[08:30] <ph8> josh_: if it's not in zip --help then i'm not sure there is one
[08:31] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel:
[08:31] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: .debs?
[08:31] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: get the package from the site mentioned, copy them to your ubuntu box
[08:32] <boink> are there ubuntu cd's with just ubuntu .debs on them?
[08:32] <boink> debian does that
[08:32] <PopeOfWar> ph8: I don't think that's the right place... I need to download what Ubuntu downloads when I enter "sudo apt-get update"
[08:32] <|lostbyte|> Hi guys.
[08:32] <Paddy_EIRE> boink: it would be pointless
[08:32] <boink> why?
[08:32] <boink> if you don't have an internet connection, it would be quite useful
[08:32] <|lostbyte|> Where can i find the log of this channel ?
[08:32] <ladydoor> PopeOfWar: that *is* what gets downloaded.
[08:32] <|lostbyte|> !log
[08:32] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[08:32] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: Which package? There are seven listed on the front page...
[08:32] <Paddy_EIRE> boink: i agree
[08:33] <ladydoor> PopeOfWar: apt is a frontend to dpkg.
[08:33] <josh_> what is the command for grepping inside a tar'ed file?
[08:33] <PopeOfWar> *ahhh!!!* I'm confused...
[08:33] <PopeOfWar> !fixconfusion
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixconfusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <PopeOfWar> DAMN
[08:33] <ladydoor> !language
[08:33] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:33] <Paddy_EIRE> boink: i tried once to make a cd repo from all the debs on my system and it failed miserably
[08:33] <PopeOfWar> ladydoor: Sorry
[08:33] <boink> I think it works quite well in debian
[08:33] <SlackRat> poo
[08:34] <nootrope> apache-perl keeps taking port 80 when i want apache2 to do so. where do i tell ubuntu that, please?
[08:34] <boink> you tell the httpd.conf that
[08:34] <Paddy_EIRE> boink: i think by the time they produce the cd with the debs they would all be out of date
[08:34] <nootrope> thanks, boink
[08:34] <boink> not for each distro, there's three year desktop support. but the security stuff, maybe. but without internet, it's less of a problem
[08:35] <Paddy_EIRE> boink: whats the httpd.conf?
[08:35] <boink> httpd.conf is the apache config
[08:35] <feryana> just a little question guys
[08:35] <boink> I pressume the httpd.conf is also called the httpd.conf in the ubuntu apache
[08:35] <feryana> how can i kill a program? were a skull appears like the mouse and were I click is gone
[08:35] <cherubiel> feryana: xkill is the graphical version
[08:36] <cherubiel> feryana: kill is the cli equivalent
[08:36] <boink> ps aux|grep "program" .. then kill -9 process_number
[08:36] <Paddy_EIRE> boink: i added the cd via the software management dialogue... i also tried the dpkg -i -get-selections- method
[08:36] <feryana> ty!
[08:36] <CarlFK> how do I make apps (tbird, gaim) run when I log in?
[08:36] <ashzilla> All the movies I play are blown out - like the contrast ratio is all messed up
[08:36] <ashzilla> Can anyone help me out? All videos I watch are unbearable
[08:36] <cherubiel> CarlFK: save your session before logout
[08:37] <Hikaru79> If I install beagle through synaptic, will beagled automatically be run on startup? Or do I have to manually add it somehow?
[08:37] <CarlFK> cherubiel: I don't want everything, just those 2
[08:37] <Paddy_EIRE> CarlFK: System > Preferences > Sessions
[08:37] <nickspoon> josh_: tar -tf file | grep "thing"
[08:37] <ashzilla> When I open any video file with any player everything is blown out white
[08:37] <sarikan> hi, how can I use a static ip over wpa and wireless
[08:37] <ashzilla> Can someone please help me install the right video packages so my videos can be displayed correctly?
[08:37] <NeilyBoy> Hi. I've had an absolute terrible time installing flash for Ubuntu.  It offers to install through the updater in Ubuntu but seemingly always fails and never stops nagging me.  I tried to install it the little less automatic way and it _still_ _does_ _not_ _work_ help?
[08:37] <CarlFK> Paddy_EIRE: "startup -programs" - thanks
[08:37] <Paddy_EIRE> CarlFK: then "startup Programs yep
[08:37] <sarikan> at he moment I am using network manager applet
[08:38] <sarikan> I've tried wpa supplicant but it seems to give many errors
[08:38] <quiet> NeilyBoy: that update has been fixed.
[08:38] <boink> sarikan: you set up your network cards in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:38] <NeilyBoy> quiet, since when?
[08:38] <quiet> not sure what repos it came in.. but it *IS* fixed.
[08:38] <quiet> umm.. i got it yesterday
[08:38] <quiet> not sure when exactly.
[08:38] <sarikan> boink: will nm-applet care about the settings?
[08:38] <boink> dunno
[08:38] <quiet> i have main restricted universe multiverse for main, updated, backports, security
[08:39] <reitzell> I'm trying to mount a smb share that I setup with the share folder gui and it wants a password and I never entered one?
[08:39] <johny5> I just added a new hard drive in my computer and I would like to move /home, is there anyway to do this without losing my current data?
[08:39] <quiet> i have like 18845 package available or something
[08:39] <Ademan> i tried to install the proprietary nvidia drivers and at startup x crashes and it says that my kernel module is version 1.0-7xxx and my Xorg module is 1.0-9xxx how can i fix this? the installation said it was succesfull
[08:39] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: you try running the update
[08:39] <NeilyBoy> Paddy_EIRE, Yes, I just tried seconds ago.  System is up to date apparently.
[08:39] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[08:39] <NeilyBoy> Paddy_EIRE, but Flash still does not exist
[08:40] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: could you put your sources.list on pastebin
[08:40] <NeilyBoy> Paddy_EIRE, how would i go about doing that
[08:40] <ashzilla> When I open any video file with any player everything is washed out and the video is unbearable to watch
[08:40] <boink> !paste
[08:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:40] <Paddy_EIRE> !pastebin
[08:40] <boink> beat you too it :)
[08:40] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[08:41] <boink> !tell Neilyboy about paste
[08:41] <NeilyBoy> Paddy_EIRE, sorry, i should have been more specific. how do i find my sources.list and yes i know allllllll about pastebin ty
[08:41] <boink> !easy-source
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easy-source - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:41] <quiet> /etc/apt/sources.lst
[08:41] <boink> !easysource
[08:41] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:41] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: its in gksudo gedit etc/apt/sources.list
[08:41] <boink> !tell Neilyboy about easysource
[08:41] <Paddy_EIRE> run that
[08:42] <NeilyBoy> Paddy_EIRE, thank you :)
[08:42] <Paddy_EIRE> no probs
[08:42] <ubuntu> i need help when my pc boot while loading the /etc/init.d i get permission denined
[08:42] <ashzilla> Can someone help with my video....
[08:42] <Paddy_EIRE> ashzilla: whats up
[08:43] <ashzilla> I cannot watch DVDs, they are washed out and whenever light is involved it becomes completely white
[08:43] <Elohimus> I can't get python-ctypes to remove. It's effecting apt-get. Anyone able to help?
[08:43] <disciple> !list
[08:43] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[08:43] <krazykit> ashzilla: you have an intel card, right?
[08:43] <Asc> ubuntu: did you at any point try to edit something in that folder?
[08:43] <Paddy_EIRE> ashzilla: sounds strange....what are you using to play em
[08:44] <krazykit> ashzilla: assuming you have an intel graphics chip, this is a known bug
[08:44] <ubuntu> ashzilla: i dont quite know
[08:44] <ubuntu> Asc: i dont quite know
[08:44] <ashzilla> krazykit, yes
[08:44] <ashzilla> krazykit, how do I fix it? It's every player I use...
[08:44] <krazykit> ashzilla: yeah, known bug.  no good fix.
[08:44] <ubuntu> asc now i am on the kubuntu live cd searching for help
[08:45] <krazykit> ashzilla: actually, no, there is a fix
[08:45] <ashzilla> woot
[08:45] <ashzilla> I can't handle watching everything all washed out
[08:45] <krazykit> ashzilla: don't use xv overlay for your video driver.  try the gl or gl2 drivers.  if those don't work, x11 might.
[08:45] <ashzilla> krazykit, how do I use the gl drivers
[08:45] <krazykit> ashzilla: using totem?  no idea.  i only use mplayer
[08:45] <Asc> ubuntu: Okay.  This happened to me once when I changed the permissions on a file while trying to edit it.  Hmm.
[08:46] <ashzilla> it happens in mplayer too
[08:46] <ubuntu> Asc: so what do i do
[08:46] <krazykit> ashzilla: i know.  mplayer -vo gl will do it
[08:46] <ladydoor> ubuntu: do ls -l /etc/init.d to see just what the permissions are, first.
[08:46] <NeilyBoy> Paddy_EIRE, okay i'm about as lost as i can ever be
[08:46] <PopeOfWar> Thanks a lot everybody!
[08:46] <krazykit> ashzilla: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-i810/+bug/32963
[08:47] <Asc> ubuntu: go to /etc/init.d and 'ls -lo'.  Look for any lines that don't start with "-rwxr-xr-x 1 root"
[08:47] <bl4cktone> Does somone know what I can type into terminal to find my kernal version
[08:47] <PopeOfWar> I'll see you guys later
[08:47] <Howitzer> or navigate to /etc/ in nautilus, right-click on the init.d folder and check for the permissions that way :D
[08:47] <ashzilla> wow, that fixed it krazykit :D
[08:47] <ashzilla> Thanks :D
[08:47] <|lostbyte|> bl4cktone, uname -r
[08:47] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: did you paste the contents of your sources.list into pastebin for me to view it
[08:47] <krazykit> ashzilla: just let it be known that bigger resolutions might cause issues if you have a slower processor.  it should be fixed in edgy
[08:48] <ubuntu> Asc: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2553 2006-05-23 10:39 bootclean.sh
[08:48] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> people. please tell me the worst effect of installing Xgl
[08:48] <Elohimus> anytime I try and use apt-get for anything I get this error: E: The package python-ctypes needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[08:48] <krazykit> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: losing a couple of hours of your life
[08:48] <ashzilla> krazykit, is edgy the next release of Ubuntu?
[08:48] <NeilyBoy> Paddy_EIRE, yes, i just pmed it to you
[08:48] <Paddy_EIRE> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: there are quite a few
[08:48] <krazykit> ashzilla: yeah.
[08:48] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: oops
[08:49] <ubuntu> Asc: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    8 2006-05-31 01:33 stop-bootlogd -> bootlogd
[08:49] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: be with u in a sec
[08:49] <disciple> has anyone ever got 3d studio max to work?
[08:49] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i mean: like what?
[08:49] <ashzilla> krazykit, how do I fast forward while using the terminal to start with those options?
[08:49] <Asc> ubuntu: It's the same way on my system.  Hmm.
[08:49] <Ademan> i tried to install the proprietary nvidia drivers and at startup x crashes and it says that my kernel module is version 1.0-7xxx and my Xorg module is 1.0-9xxx how can i fix this? the installation said it was succesfull
[08:49] <krazykit> with mplayer?  left and right buttons on your keyboard
[08:49] <Arrick> what are the commands to unzip a .tar.tar file?
[08:50] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Ademan: happened with me also.
[08:50] <Elohimus> anytime I try and use apt-get for anything I get this error: E: The package python-ctypes needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. Anyone have any suggestions?
[08:50] <krazykit> Arrick: tar.tar?  tar -xf tar.tar
[08:50] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> did you upgrade your drivers or somethinG/
[08:50] <S0me1> Ubuntu very very slow today, did anyone faces this issue?
[08:50] <ubuntu> so what do i do
[08:50] <cherubiel> Elohimus: enable universe repository
[08:50] <cherubiel> Elohimus: then apt-get update
[08:50] <cherubiel> Elohimus: and then try to install again
[08:50] <Ademan> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: no fix that you know of?
[08:51] <Asc> ubuntu: Uh, I don't know if this will work, but try going to /var/log and posting the contents of dmesg to pastebin
[08:51] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ademan: did you try to install ur graphics drivers?
[08:51] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> if yes
[08:51] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> then maybe i can help
[08:51] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: this is strange, your sources.list is fine.? did you try to type in a terminal "sudo apt-get update"
[08:52] <howekern> My package manager stopped working: I tried to install jEdit from the .deb provided at jedit.org.
[08:52] <howekern> This failed, and now synaptic refuses to do anything.
[08:52] <howekern> Says the package needs to be re-installed.
[08:53] <Elohimus> cherubiel: it's still not working
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> remove it and reisntall it - perhaps
[08:53] <eyequeue> sudo dpkg --purge jedit
[08:53] <NeilyBoy> Paddy_EIRE, getting the update isn't a problem... downloading and installing flash is.
[08:53] <howekern> thanks
[08:53] <dudei> How do I acess my HDD from a live CD?
[08:53] <Asc> ubuntu: seeing the exact error might help somebody, and might not.  I can't imagine why it would give you permissions trouble if the permissions are okay, unless something horribly unpleasant happened to root's permissions
[08:53] <cherubiel> Elohimus: apt-get install python2.4-ctypes
[08:53] <Elohimus> dudei: mount it
[08:53] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> dudei :mount it
[08:53] <dudei> how
[08:53] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i guess dapper automatically mounts all ur partitions
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> mount /dev/whatever /place/whever
[08:54] <Ademan> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: yeah i was trying to install the new beta drivers for NVIDIA
[08:54] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: try this http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/08/install-mozilla-flash-plugin-in-ubuntu.html
[08:54] <dudei> then where would it be
[08:54] <dudei> not in /mnt
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> I dident notice dapper mounting my partitions autimaticially
[08:54] <Dr_Willis>  - /media would be the default
[08:54] <ubuntu> Asc: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24548
[08:54] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> on the desktop. when i ran dapper it had mounted all the windows partitions
[08:54] <cherubiel> dudei: the live cd should typically mount it automatically and display it on your desktop
[08:54] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> :D
[08:54] <howekern> I'm told the package is in a "very bad inconsistant state," and that I should re-install it before removing it.
[08:54] <Elohimus> cherubiel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24549
[08:54] <dudei> well it didn't
[08:54] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Ademan: same thing happend with me
[08:54] <howekern> This is a problem, as I can't install it now anymore than I could before.
 what new drivers?
[08:54] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i was taken to the Command Line INterface
[08:54] <Ademan> were you able to fix it?
[08:55] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> then
[08:55] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i simply typed 'exit'
[08:55] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> it restarted itself
[08:55] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> and repaired
[08:55] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> god knows how
[08:55] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> try it once
[08:55] <ladydoor> howekern: did you use the development package or the stable release?
[08:55] <howekern> I think the stable release.
[08:55] <ladydoor> !enter
[08:55] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[08:55] <howekern> Sorry.
[08:55] <ladydoor> howekern: not you :-)
[08:56] <cfh_dev> Any suggestions for which filesystem to use on a software RAID 5 setup?
[08:56] <howekern> Oh.
[08:56] <fdoving> ext3.
[08:56] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: any joy yet?
[08:56] <Ademan> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: the box i was trying to install it on is disconnected right now cause its my laptop (i'm just using the nv driver for now) but i'll try that next chance i get
[08:56] <dudei> ok I mounted it myself
[08:56] <howekern> And, I used the unstable, actually: 4.3pre6.
[08:56] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> yeah.
[08:56] <dudei> cause I'm hardcore
[08:56] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> dudei: u call urself a geek
[08:56] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> we are not doing porn movies here
[08:56] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> :D
[08:56] <Ademan> brian98: http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_downloads_linux_display_x86_1.0-9625.html
[08:57] <eyequeue> you, not you, and you are, not ur
[08:57] <NeilyBoy> Paddy_EIRE, nevermind. I just tried the manual installation of flash again and this time it worked without a hitch
[08:57] <ubuntu> Asc: sorry heres the dmesg  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24550
[08:57] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: :) nice one
[08:57] <NeilyBoy> NeilyBoy, gg for randomness
[08:57] <dudei> ok now to the serious question
[08:57] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> shoot
[08:57] <dudei> my ATI driver died
[08:57] <ladydoor> howekern: for future reference, there's not complete compatability between ubuntu & debian packages. it's a good idea to install from source in those cases
[08:57] <dudei> I have no clue how
[08:57] <dudei> it just died
[08:57] <NeilyBoy> Paddy_EIRE, can you help me with one more thing?
[08:57] <Elohimus> Internet dropped out. cherubiel, did you get my pastebin?
[08:57] <howekern> Ah.
[08:57] <dudei> and uh, in process of fixing it
[08:58] <dudei> I killed X
[08:58] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: fire away
[08:58] <dudei> which is why I am using a live cd
[08:58] <cfh_dev> fdoving, What about reiser?
[08:58] <cherubiel> Elohimus: did you enalble universe repo in /etc/apt/sources.lst and do a apt-get update
[08:58] <cherubiel> ?
[08:58] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> LOLZ
[08:58] <dudei> the wiki says that the ATI driver sucks
[08:58] <NeilyBoy> Paddy_EIRE, I installed firefox 1.5.0.7, but now no program seems to launch anything from URLs
[08:58] <dudei> and that it know that it sucks
[08:58] <superjew9020> since i have fluxbox on ubuntu can i delete all of the gnome directorys
[08:58] <fdoving> cfh_dev: i have only bad experiences with reiser. stopped using it.
[08:58] <kmasta> allright, i downloaded the JDK from the repos and then some guy told me i needed to get "Eclipse", but I still see no shortcut anywhere to fire up the JDK so I can start coding
[08:58] <dudei> but it doesn't say to reload it or whatever
[08:58] <Elohimus> cherubiel: yes
[08:58] <jbroome> Reiser's wife had a bad expereience with reiser as well
[08:59] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN>  guys. need help regarding gcc
[08:59] <fdoving> cfh_dev: ext3 or xfs are the two i can recommend.
[08:59] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> what does this mean: Unable to create executable
[08:59] <Elohimus> No matter what I do it gives me that python-ctypes error.
[08:59] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: i've had this problem...until I went into the app(s) in question and found what it uses as a t
[08:59] <Paddy_EIRE> oops
[08:59] <Elohimus> I can't use apt-get at all.
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> PunjabiFLOYDIAN,  means you dont have the gcc compiler or tools installed yet.
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> !b-e
[08:59] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:59] <Asc> ubuntu: Huh.  Thought the error would appear on that.
[08:59] <cfh_dev> fdoving, I've been using reiser on some other drives with no problems but it's a local system and I wouldn't know a problem except for data loss.
[08:59] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Dr_Willis: when i use gcc --version
[09:00] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> it shows the version isntalled
[09:00] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: app(s) in question and change what they use as the default browser then enter firefox
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> did you install 'build-essential'  package? or just 'gcc'
[09:00] <cfh_dev> What does a journalling file system do, specifically?
[09:00] <ubuntu> Asc: what do i do :(
[09:00] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> oh! i installed just gcc. thanks so much! :D
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> cfh_dev,  it logs what its going to do.. then does it.. then cleans the log. (i think)
[09:00] <disciple> can 3d studio max be made to work with winex?
[09:00] <fdoving> cfh_dev: glad it works for you :)
[09:00] <NeilyBoy> i'm pretty sure it's a system > preferences > preferred applications issue
[09:00] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: if you could name an ap thats doin this to get you started as to what ur looking for then ill walk you through if u need
[09:01] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok now. can anyone please suggest a nice WINE tutorial
[09:01] <ubuntu> Asc: how do i veiw abd edit my partition tables
[09:01] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i cant seem to get it work. want to run dreamweaver
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> PunjabiFLOYDIAN,  what kind of tutorual do ya need? i just install it and use it.
[09:01] <NeilyBoy> um.. frostwire and xchat do not launch URLs at all
[09:01] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Dr_Willis
[09:01] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> HOW?
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> PunjabiFLOYDIAN,
[09:01] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i mean
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> how what?
[09:01] <cfh_dev> fdoving, of course, reiser could be the reason I've seen random unexplainable system crashes
[09:01] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i have the executable. how do i run it
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> apt-get install wine
[09:01] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: be right back, phone
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> wine /path/to/sol.exe
[09:01] <disciple> i heard dreamweaver can work
[09:01] <fdoving> cfh_dev: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journaling_file_system
[09:01] <NeilyBoy> Paddy_EIRE, okay
[09:02] <ubuntu> Asc: brb
[09:02] <disciple> everyone still says max cant work though
[09:02] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok lemme try
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> it pays to read a few wine docs./guides/tutorials/howtos/homepage/faq
[09:02] <Asc> ubuntu: try parted maybe
[09:02] <Asc> eh
[09:02] <mayk> hi all.. is this the correct place to ask something about libssl in ubuntu server 6.06 ?
[09:03] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> got it!
[09:03] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> does wine effect the performance?
[09:04] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: do u understand what I mean
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> what performance?
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> its a compatiability layer.. so of course it wont be identical.. :P but ive heard of some programs that work better with wine.
[09:04] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i mean - will the software run wit the same speed as it does on windows
[09:04] <disciple> is winehq down?
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> PunjabiFLOYDIAN,  like so many things in life  -- 'it depends'
[09:04] <superjew9020> since i have fluxbox on ubuntu can i delete all of the gnome directorys
[09:05] <howekern> I tried to install the jedit .deb from their site, and now synaptic is badly messed up, and refuses to work.  It won't uninstall jedit; it complains that the package is in a "badly inconsistant state"  and that I should re-install it before uninstalling it - and I cannot install it now anymore than I could the first time I tried, when it failed.
[09:05] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Dr_Willis: Thanks
[09:05] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> how can i upgrade wine?
[09:05] <howekern> Is there any way to recover from this, or is apt irrevocably dead?
[09:05] <frolist> hi
[09:05] <frolist> isnt there a wayy you can burn an iso to dvd?
[09:06] <disciple> frolist, yes
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> PunjabiFLOYDIAN,  same as ya upgrade the rest of the system with apt-get,
[09:06] <ph8> is there way i can see the last few packages i installed using apt~?
[09:06] <mayk> howekern ,  you need to execute the folowing : sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq jedit
[09:06] <frolist> in nero it wont burn to dvd
[09:06] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok thanks soo much! really helped a lot
[09:06] <disciple> i just right click and said wirte to disc
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> PunjabiFLOYDIAN,  if you MUST have the latest cutting edge wine.. well - theres docs out for using the cvs/source
[09:06] <GTX> Hi, I'm using the xorg-driver-fglrx - However I dont like it, Is their another type of graphic driver?
[09:06] <eyequeue> !info nero
[09:06] <ubotu> Package nero does not exist in any distro I know
[09:06] <hind3nburg> i'm having troubles installing apache2 in edgy, it says their are broken packages. can anyone help?
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> frolist,  it wont work.
[09:06] <eyequeue> frolist, what is nero?
[09:06] <dpo1> i'm having a big problem with ubuntu and it's really pissing me off
[09:07] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: can you name an app that is exhibiting this problem, with the urls
[09:07] <rathel> Hey I got an annoying problem, flash keeps wanting to install after I update, or install another program, I already intalled it, how do I make it stop wanting to install? Thanks
[09:07] <frolist> nero for windows... im just trying to burn the iso for ubuntu
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> frolist,  did it by mistake once.. :P
[09:07] <steve_> frolist: can you get nero to work correctly on ubuntu
[09:07] <dpo1> it keeps randomly freezing and i dont know what to do
[09:07] <disciple> oh...i dont think so, i had the same problem
[09:07] <Paddy_EIRE> frolist: what version of nero u using
[09:07] <frolist> it wants a cd
[09:07] <disciple> i used clonecd though and that worked
[09:07] <frolist> oem
[09:08] <mayk> howekern , did it work ?
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> hes refering to USING nero under windows to burn a ubuntu cd.iso to a dvd disk.
[09:08] <Justy-> i think there is a nero of ubuntu
[09:08] <howekern> Yes, it seems to have, thank yuo very much,
[09:08] <Paddy_EIRE> frolist: so you have Nero Burning Rom??
[09:08] <mayk> okay, glad to help
[09:08] <frolist> well the one that came with the burner
[09:08] <dudei> use gnomebaker
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> you used clonecd and copied a cd.iso to a dvd disk and it worked?
[09:08] <howekern> I've spent the last two weeks trying unsuccessfully to resurect a Gentoo install that went very bad, and the prospect of having to go through it all again in Ubuntu  was less than appealing.
[09:08] <disciple> yes
[09:09] <disciple> it was the only thing that would actually
[09:09] <kyja> mmm, what if I wanted to back up actualy -spanning accross RW DVD.
[09:09] <Coolrazor> Noob question: how do I set Ubuntu to boot into CLI and the GUI?
[09:09] <mayk> howekern, i know what you mean.. reainstalls suck.. ;)
[09:09] <disciple> i think imgburn worked as well
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> Coolrazor,  disable the gdm/kdm/xdm service - and it will boot to the console.
[09:09] <frolist> disciple: though with clonecd you dont need 2 drives?
[09:09] <kyja> mm
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> Coolrazor,  you can then use 'startx' to get to X as needed
[09:10] <disciple> no
[09:10] <Justy> http://www.pardus-wiki.org/index.php/ISONero that maybe be helpful it is turkish but you can use graphical interface ?
[09:10] <howekern> Gentoo re-installs really suck. *shivvers*  It rebuild the whole system - or, rather, tries to, gets half-way through, and fails.
[09:10] <disciple> you can write from file
[09:10] <iLLf8d> lol
[09:10] <mayk> does anyone have a pointer on what repository to use on how to downgrade libssl from 0.9.8 to 0.9.7 ?  I'm trying to instlall scalix on ubuntu server, and it needs that version.. :(
[09:10] <iLLf8d> howekern, user error
[09:10] <Paddy_EIRE> howekern: each time??? aint there someway of usin your old configs
[09:11] <rathel> Hey I got an annoying problem, flash keeps wanting to install after I update, or install another program, I already intalled it, how do I make it stop wanting to install? Thanks
[09:11] <Justy> rathel, are you sure you have installed it correctly?
[09:11] <Paddy_EIRE> rathel: this bug has been fixed with a recent update
[09:11] <mayk> rathel, did you clear the apt queue ?
[09:11] <Hanpusu> excuse me, but why cant I make ctrl+alt characters?
[09:11] <rathel> Justy, I think so, I just uesd the apt-get install command on it.. lol I don't know
[09:11] <Paddy_EIRE> rathel: did u try manual install, it worked for NeilyBoy
[09:12] <jasondotgnu> hello, what's the package name of xorg 7.1 in edgy?
[09:12] <disciple> ill ask one more time as i am extremely desperate not to use windows
[09:12] <howekern> iLLf8d: yeah, probably.  Paddy_EIRE: yes, there is, but you still have to wait for five hours while it builds the system.
[09:12] <rathel> it's installed and working..
[09:12] <Justy> rathel, i think it is not that way :\
[09:12] <frolist> clonecd from nero?
[09:12] <disciple> is there anyway at all to get 3d studio max to work?
[09:12] <Justy> frolist, clone cd?
[09:12] <iLLf8d> howekern, they are long and tedious tho I'll giveya that
[09:12] <Justy> frolist, i think it is "write from image"
[09:13] <disciple> what? no download clonecd, seperate program
[09:13] <Paddy_EIRE> howekern: thats crazy, although from what I hear once its installed its a great os
[09:13] <frolist> oh ok i see
[09:13] <howekern> Disciple, you've tried WINE?
[09:13] <iLLf8d> Paddy_EIRE, ehh its ok like anything else
[09:13] <disciple> you can try it for 21 days
[09:13] <frolist> k thanks
[09:14] <howekern> Disciple, you only have a demo?
[09:14] <disciple> howekern, yeah gets error during install
[09:14] <NeilyBoy> Paddy_EIRE, okay. so is there a way to add a custom command to system > preferences > preferred applications to get firefox to launch when a program attempts to do something with a URL?
[09:14] <disciple> howekern, no i have full version of max
[09:14] <Hanpusu> excuse me, but why doesnt any sound come out of my speakers when I play a song?
[09:14] <mayk> nobody any pointer on downgrading libssl 0.9.8 to 0.9.7 ? :-(
[09:14] <Paddy_EIRE> iLLf8d: apparently it'll run really well on an ancient system... i like that idea as i have a lot of older systems from the land that time forgot
[09:14] <Justy> rathel, http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash try the instructions there
[09:14] <GTX> Hello, My Friend is running the  xorg-driver-fglrx for ATI. But when I remote desktop into his computer its rubish, I have to click on everything to see whats going on, any ideas?
[09:14] <totalnewb> hi good afternoon everyone
[09:15] <totalnewb> i am sorry to bother you guys i am new to linux and i have a compete stupid question
[09:15] <iLLf8d> NeilyBoy, dunno if its a gnome thing, but you might check /etc/alternatives might be in there not sure
[09:15] <howekern> My WINE experience is limited, so I'm probably not much use... but, for teh heck of it, what actually goes wrong?  What's the actuall error?
[09:15] <rathel> Justy, okay but will that solve my queue problem?
[09:15] <totalnewb> last night by accident i hit ctr + alt +backspace
[09:15] <totalnewb> and then the screen went black
[09:15] <NeilyBoy> iLLf8d, i know it's a gnome thing becuase i changed it earlier and it stopped working lol
[09:16] <totalnewb> so i did the same
[09:16] <totalnewb> and logged back in
[09:16] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: you see some apps have "mozilla" set as the default browser... i dont think there is a system wide way doing it...then again maybe there is ..
[09:16] <Justy> rathel, i don't know i am not good at those problems.. i just try to help you
[09:16] <rathel> Justy, another thing, why would I install from there when it's already installed and working from Apt-get? just curious
[09:16] <mayk> totalnewb , that combo quits your X server
[09:16] <iLLf8d> NeilyBoy, it may use that too I dunno
[09:16] <totalnewb> but since then system seem to be slow
[09:16] <totalnewb> now
[09:16] <NeilyBoy> iLLf8d, i was blindly following a tutorial and it sucked when i realized what i did made it stop working
[09:16] <Justy> rathel, i installed it from the site and it worked
[09:16] <totalnewb> on console i type users
[09:16] <slipttees> :'(
[09:16] <slipttees> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24555
[09:16] <dankmiser> I need some help: Azureus error window will not hide, just updated too
[09:16] <Justy> rathel, maybe ubuntu has some licance problems?
[09:16] <iLLf8d> alternatives in debian is just a bunch of symlinks to prefered apps dunno where the handling is breaking down (i'm new to ubuntu tho)
[09:16] <totalnewb> and see two toaltalnweb logedd in
[09:16] <mayk> ctlr-alt-backspace does not do anything else that quit x serv
[09:16] <iLLf8d> and gnome really
[09:16] <NeilyBoy> Paddy_EIRE, can you check your prefferred applications?
[09:16] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: if you name one app u would like solved for the urls i will show u how quick and easy it is...then you can do the rest yourself
[09:16] <rathel> Justy, no no no, it's an apt-get queue problem I think
[09:17] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: sure
[09:17] <disciple> howekern, just says fatal error, check error log for details
[09:17] <cfh_dev> fdoving, If my raid 5 block size is 64k, what should my stripe width be when setting up xfs?
[09:17] <totalnewb> ok so why do i see 2 of my sessions open?
[09:17] <Justy> rathel, i dont know lol i am a newbie of ubuntu and unix..
[09:17] <totalnewb> or how do i logout one of the sessions?
[09:17] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: my browser is set to custom
[09:17] <Elohimus> apt-get is no longer working. Anytime I do anything with it I get: "E: The package python-ctypes needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it." Any help?
[09:17] <howekern> Did you check the error log?
[09:17] <NeilyBoy> Paddy_EIRE, can you paste what it says?
[09:17] <kmasta> i downloaded the JDK package from the repos, but I don't know where it got put
[09:17] <howekern> Just a guess, it could be under ~/.wine/drive_c/ somewhere.
[09:17] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: k
[09:17] <dbr> Grr, how'd I change the owener of a mount'ed harddrive? I've tried ch(mod|grp|own) but all claim it's "premission denied : read only filesystem", putting it in fstab doesn't help either
[09:18] <mayk> Elohimus ,  you need to execute the folowing : sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq package_name
[09:18] <russo79> totalnewb: your system is probably slow because one GL screensaver is running on your other open session
[09:18] <rathel> how do you clear out the apt-get queue? I tried apt-get clean or something like that, and it didn't help
[09:18] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: gnome-www-browser %s
[09:18] <Jowi> totalnewb: one for xorg and one for the terminal? the command "pstree" give a nice visual presentation that can give you a hint of what is going on
[09:18] <lupine_85> dbr: in fstab add the "uuid=<your-uuid>"
[09:18] <c0nfidencal> hey! "Here is a script to do steps 1 - 4 automatically" <- how do i save the script? extension.. windows has *.bat, what does *nix has? :)
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> dbr: let me guess, ntfs file system?
[09:18] <lupine_85> your IUU
[09:18] <mayk> Elohimus: replace package_name by python-ctypes
[09:18] <Justy> rathel, hope i knew ... =(
[09:18] <reitzell> does anyone know anything about samba? I just want to mount a share using my unix account user password.
[09:18] <lupine_85> your UUID should be 1000, in most cases - but check :)
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> c0nfidencal: none :)
[09:18] <cfh_dev> rathel, apt-get clean cleans out the apt-get cache
[09:18] <c0nfidencal> none?
[09:18] <c0nfidencal> Here is a script to do steps 1 - 4 automatically:
[09:18] <c0nfidencal> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[09:18] <c0nfidencal> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup.nvidia
[09:18] <c0nfidencal> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[09:18] <GTX> Hello, My Friend is running the  xorg-driver-fglrx for ATI. But when I remote desktop into his computer its rubish, I have to click on everything to see whats going on, any ideas?
[09:18] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: although as i said before it may not work on all the apps in question
[09:18] <c0nfidencal> how do u explain this then? :)
[09:18] <Elohimus> c0nfidencal: use paste
[09:18] <russo79> totalnewb: try to do a Ctrl-Alt-F7, Ctrl-Alt-F8, Ctrl-Alt-F9... to see on which terminal your second session is running
[09:18] <c0nfidencal> huh :X
[09:18] <russo79> totalnewb: and quit it
[09:19] <dpo1> so can someoen explain why ubuntu is freezing?
[09:19] <fuci> Can anyone please give me default xorg.conf section for "Section "Input Device"" I can't restart GDM because it whines something about it.
[09:19] <totalnewb> totalnewb@xglbox:~$ pstree
[09:19] <totalnewb> initacpid
[09:19] <totalnewb>      atd
[09:19] <totalnewb>      avahi-daemonavahi-daemon
[09:19] <totalnewb>      bonobo-activati
[09:19] <totalnewb>      cgwd
[09:19] <Hanpusu> Excuse me, but the MMSX says when im rtying to pay a song that my soundcard cant be found
[09:19] <rathel> cfh_dev, okay now, how do I removed Flash from the queue?
[09:19] <totalnewb>      clock-applet
[09:19] <totalnewb>      compiz
[09:19] <totalnewb>      compiz-manager
[09:19] <Hanpusu> what to do?
[09:19] <NeilyBoy> Paddy_EIRE, okay can you show me your way?
[09:19] <totalnewb>      cron
[09:19] <totalnewb>      cupsd
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> because its cool.
[09:19] <totalnewb>      2*[dbus-daemon] 
[09:19] <fdoving> cfh_dev: don't know. have to go put my kid to bed. sorry.
[09:19] <totalnewb>      dbus-launch
[09:19] <totalnewb>      dd
[09:19] <totalnewb>      deskbar-applet{deskbar-applet}
[09:19] <totalnewb>      dhclient3
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> totalnewb: wth are you doing?
[09:19] <totalnewb>      esd
[09:19] <Jowi> totalnewb: stop that please. use pastebin
[09:19] <totalnewb>      events/0
[09:19] <georgy> !pastebin
[09:19] <Justy> totalnewb, ewww i wish you would use pastebin
[09:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> !ops
[09:19] <Elohimus> mayk: omg, thank you
[09:19] <totalnewb>      gconfd-2
[09:19] <kyja> mmm backup-manager sounds awsome
[09:19] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[09:19] <cfh_dev> fdoving, thanks for the suggestions for XFS.  Have fun with the kid!
[09:19] <totalnewb>      gdmgdmXglXorg
[09:19] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: for amsn i would go to preferences and change url behaviour from mozilla %u to firefox %u
[09:19] <totalnewb>                 gnome-sessionssh-agent
[09:19] <totalnewb>      6*[getty] 
[09:19] <totalnewb>      gnome-cups-icon
[09:19] <totalnewb>      gnome-keyring-d
[09:19] <totalnewb>      gnome-panel{gnome-panel}
[09:19] <totalnewb>      gnome-power-man
[09:19] <totalnewb>      gnome-screensav
[09:19] <disciple> ok, im a newb, i found it in the terminal under winows/temp, but i dont know how to open it
[09:19] <totalnewb>      gnome-settings-{gnome-settings-}
[09:20] <totalnewb>      gnome-terminalbashpstree
[09:20] <totalnewb>                      gnome-pty-helpe
[09:20] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: urs may have nothing written
[09:20] <mayk> Elohimus : it worked ?
[09:20] <kyja> totalnewb, needs to know pastebin =] 
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> thanks nalioth :)
[09:20] <fuci> Can anyone please give me default xorg.conf section for "Section "Input Device"" I can't restart GDM because it whines something about it.
[09:20] <howekern> In a terminal, try "less ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/temp/error.log.name"
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> fuci: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:21] <russo79> fuci: put your x.org in pastebin and i'll take a look at it
[09:21] <mayk> nobody any pointer on downgrading libssl 0.9.8 to 0.9.7 ? :-(
[09:21] <NeilyBoy> Paddy_EIRE, that doesn't quite help me
[09:21] <disciple> says it is a binary file
[09:21] <mayk> i really need it for scalix to work .. :(
[09:21] <disciple> opened anyway, uinreadable
[09:21] <fuci> fyrestrtr: ok, thanks I'll try that
[09:21] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: well name the app u want sorted
[09:21] <russo79> mayk: read the synaptic documentation...
[09:21] <fuci> russo79: Cant use graphical appiclations now :p
[09:21] <russo79> mayk: it's explained there.
[09:22] <howekern> It's a ton of non-letter symbols?
[09:22] <mayk> russo79: its on ubuntu server..
[09:22] <howekern> Did it tell you it was or might be a binary file?
[09:22] <Laptop765> Does anybody know why my Ubuntu box will spontaneously seem to reject all connections [SSH, Ventrilo]  from my laptop [but not other sources]  and then randomly start working again?
[09:22] <NeilyBoy> xchat
[09:22] <NeilyBoy> Paddy_EIRE, xchat
[09:22] <howekern> Oh, heh, you already answered that.
[09:22] <mayk> but i'll dive into synaptic docu..
[09:22] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: one sec
[09:22] <dpo1> so can anyone explain why ubuntu likes to freeze?
[09:22] <dpo1> or is everyone just going to ignore me :(
[09:22] <dhq> hey guys i have a problem let me start by telling it i when into the systemsettind panel and over there i when into disk and there i by mistake put /dev/hda4 as root now i get all permission denined and kubuntu wont load please help me
[09:22] <disciple> yeah, mostly ^@ and letters mixed
[09:22] <russo79> fuci: fyrestrtr gave you one awnser that may work, but i advise you to make a backup of your current xorg.conf file
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> dpo1,  cant say that ive seen it freeze very much at all.
[09:23] <Justy> all: Good night!
[09:23] <dpo1> i had windows, and it never froze or anything
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> russo79: that program makes a backup first :)
[09:23] <russo79> fyrestrtr: oups :-)
[09:23] <dpo1> then i got a virus and it deleted essential windows files so i decided to try out ubunutu and it's been working great
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> dpo1,  i can say that ive had windows free and othe wise screw up constantly.
[09:23] <dpo1> except it occasionally freezes
[09:23] <howekern> Huh.
[09:23] <Justy> dpol: i had the same windows which always frozen and done everything ..
[09:23] <cfh_dev> rathel, try this (sudo dpkg --clear-avail) or this (sudo apt-get -f install)
[09:23] <dpo1> only when i'm on the internet
[09:24] <dpo1> like, using firefox
[09:24] <dpo1> is there anything i can do about it
[09:24] <howekern> Is it possible that's just a header?  Is any part of the file legible, or is it all just more of the same?
[09:24] <russo79> dpo1: On every site or on a particular site
[09:24] <russo79> dpo1: ?
[09:24] <nickspoon> dpo1: does it happen to be when you're viewing a flash movie?
[09:24] <dpo1> most of the time it's random, but it occurs on YouTube more than anywhere else, russo79
[09:24] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: in your preferred apps what behaviour have you specified for the browser when it open a link...if its set to open a new tab then it wont open the browser unless there is already an instance on firefox open
[09:24] <nickspoon> dpo1: I know what causes that :)
[09:24] <russo79> dpo1: maybe it's a flash problem.
[09:24] <disciple> no, its a half a page of blank space, then gibberish and (end)
[09:24] <dpo1> figured it was a flash problem
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> dpo1: sounds like you have problems with flash
[09:25] <NeilyBoy> Paddy_EIRE, I've had it set to everything
[09:25] <howekern> Huh.
[09:25] <russo79> dpo1: did you try to unistall it to see if it goes better?
[09:25] <nickspoon> dpo1: open a terminal and type sudo gedit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[09:25] <rathel> cfh_dev, lol nope flash is still there, it doesn't want to get removed
[09:25] <dpo1> k
[09:25] <howekern> I'm sorry, but I have no clue.
[09:25] <howekern> I appoligze.
[09:25] <disciple> i have a friend that says he got it to work, one of the reasons im trin so hard
[09:25] <cfh_dev> rathel, What's the error that you get?
[09:26] <disciple> no prob man
[09:26] <dpo1> okay nickspoon i typed it in and a text file opened up
[09:26] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: well tell it to open link with web browser default then check the options in firefox to see what way its handling the url
[09:26] <disciple> my friend isnt home right now though, cant get him to help me....he might have been giving me a line too
[09:26] <nickspoon> dpo1: replace whatever FIREFOX_DSP= with FIREFOX_DSP="arts"
[09:26] <rathel> cfh_dev, E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1), It already installed earlier with no problems, I don't know why it's still hanging around in the queue
[09:26] <dpo1> okay, done. anything else
[09:27] <disciple> thanks a bunch anyway
[09:27] <nickspoon> save and restart firefox :)
[09:27] <dpo1> all right
[09:27] <Silencer> is there gstreamer 0.10.7+ version to download somewere ?
[09:27] <howekern> NP, I'm sorry I couldn't help.
[09:27] <NeilyBoy> Paddy_EIRE, firefox %s
[09:27] <dpo1> hopefully this works. thanks in advance if it does :)
[09:27] <NeilyBoy> Paddy_EIRE, does nothing
[09:27] <nickspoon> dpo1: if it doesn't, I have a backup plan ;)
[09:27] <cfh_dev> rathel, have you tried removing it first (apt-get remove ...) maybe add the --purge flag
[09:27] <dpo1> good
[09:27] <dpo1> :)
[09:27] <rathel> cfh_dev, no but I will try that
[09:27] <fuci> fyrestrtr: Thanks! It worked out. :-) <3
[09:28] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: where are u getting the "firefox %s" from ?
[09:28] <NeilyBoy> Paddy_EIRE, I'm losing interest really fast.
[09:28] <cfh_dev> rathel, just to verify, are you trying install this package again?
[09:28] <totalnewb> ok sorry for that copy paste
[09:28] <NeilyBoy> Paddy_EIRE, that's what it says in the command text field when i choose Firefox
[09:28] <cdavis> I updated my kernel in dapper and now my wireless won't work.
[09:28] <totalnewb> so i tyoe users and i see totalnewb toalnew 2 times
[09:28] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: select custom
[09:28] <jldugger> question about the regular dapper installer: does the "resize <drive> and use freed space" option work well?
[09:28] <rathel> cfh_dev, no I'm just trying to make it stop trying to install it self everytime I upgrade or install another app.
[09:28] <totalnewb> how do i close one of this sesions?
[09:29] <howekern> cdavis, what're you using for a driver?
[09:29] <cfh_dev> rathel, ah, okay.  Try apt-get remove --purge ...   Maybe that will help
[09:29] <dpoc> also one more thing. i tried using wine to open up windows programs but i found i treally difficult to use, even after using the FAQ. are there any other more user-friendly programs I can use to run windows .exe files?
[09:29] <NeilyBoy> Paddy_EIRE, okay .. the text box is the same
[09:29] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: then tell it to open link with web browser default then check the options in firefox to see what way its handling the url
[09:29] <russo79> rathel: try to do a sudo apt-get update
[09:29] <russo79> rathel: and then a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:29] <cdavis> howekern, whatever the built in drivers were, I didn't do anything upon install to get it working
[09:29] <totalnewb> i just right click on the exe and then run with wine
[09:29] <dhq> hey guys i have a problem let me start by telling it i when into the systemsettind panel and over there i when into disk and there i by mistake put /dev/hda4 as root now i get all permission denined and kubuntu wont load please help me
[09:29] <howekern> Hmmm.
[09:29] <russo79> rathel: i had the same problem, and it was corrected some days laster
[09:30] <howekern> You compiled the kernel from source?
[09:30] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: in firefox choose edit >preferences then content
[09:30] <cdavis> howekern, no
[09:30] <Homer> is it possible for ati to not make crappy drivers
[09:30] <howekern> Oh, you upgraded ti with apt?
[09:30] <cdavis> howekern, yes thats correct
[09:30] <howekern> Did you get the proprietary-drivers package?
[09:30] <totalnewb> please how do i close one of the logged sessions form console??}
[09:30] <Paddy_EIRE>  NeilyBoy: in firefox choose edit >preferences then tabs sorry
[09:31] <rathel> cfh_dev, thank that remove --purge helped :)
[09:31] <fornet> hi
[09:31] <cdavis> howekern, no, wouldn't even know where to go to do so, I am sure I didn't do anything when I first installed ubuntu on this machine to get the drivers working
[09:31] <NeilyBoy> open links in other applications in a new tab in the most recent window
[09:31] <cfh_dev> rathel, glad things are working for you now
[09:31] <fornet> i ran the disk and it wont install
[09:31] <fornet> im in live user mode
[09:31] <fornet> what do i do?
[09:31] <fornet> the graphics didnt load
[09:32] <russo79> rathel: if you so a apt-get update and then you try to reinstall flash it should work... I had the same problem, and it seems that they corrected it...
[09:32] <NeilyBoy> Paddy_EIRE, open links in other applications in a new tab in the most recent window
[09:32] <georgy> fornet : what's the error message
[09:32] <Paddy_EIRE>  NeilyBoy:yes
[09:32] <cdavis> howekern, what do you think I need to do?  I still see it detecting it in dmesg, but it won'tload the driver I guess
[09:32] <fornet> georgy: none...probably the video driver doesnt work
[09:32] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: I dont know if its needed but sometimes i think a restart will then bring this into effect
[09:32] <georgy> fornet : and in save graphic mode ?
[09:32] <NeilyBoy> Paddy_EIRE, just forget it. this is stupid
[09:33] <fornet> georgy: : even tried video safe mode
[09:33] <Paddy_EIRE> ok
[09:33] <fornet> whats video safe mode?
[09:33] <georgy> fornet : try the alternate cd
[09:33] <fornet> alternate cd?
[09:33] <NeilyBoy> Paddy_EIRE, i know beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was preferred applictions as the reason why this quit working.
[09:33] <CyberSky> allo all
[09:34] <georgy> fornet : you can download it on the ubuntu site
[09:34] <CyberSky> how to config my ip from consol
[09:34] <NeilyBoy> Paddy_EIRE, so i guess i will go back to windows to play some video games. thanks for the help
[09:34] <fornet> georgy: how come they dont just use that?
[09:34] <Paddy_EIRE> NeilyBoy: enjoy
[09:34] <devilsadvocate> CyberSky use ifconfig
[09:34] <howekern> ...
[09:34] <howekern> What happens if you run iwconfig
[09:34] <LeeJunFan> is there a way to search for a package containing a file when you don't have it installed?
[09:34] <georgy> fornet : it's without a graphic installer
[09:35] <devilsadvocate> iwconfig is for wireless networks
[09:35] <CyberSky> devilsadvocate,  so what can id for now
[09:35] <graveson> has anyone seen this weird issue before, i am pulling out . http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24556 , http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24557
[09:35] <fornet> georgy: can i burn it to dvd from this live cd?
[09:36] <CyberSky> devilsadvocate, i have type ifconfig
[09:36] <jldugger> fornet, you have a spare dvd burner drive?
[09:36] <georgy> fornet : no
[09:36] <fornet> jldugger: oh ahaha right
[09:36] <CyberSky> devilsadvocate,  and where can i configure my ip
[09:36] <georgy> fornet, : you have to download it
[09:36] <fornet> ok thanks
[09:37] <graveson> has anyone seen this weird issue before, i am pulling out my hair . http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24556 , http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24557
[09:37] <Jowi> graveson: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" chose the vesa driver and see if you still get that problem. this can be a problem with either driver, faulty RAM, kernel, framebuffer and more. hard to pinpoint but select the vesa driver as a start.
[09:38] <CyberSky> !comman
[09:38] <CyberSky> !command
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about comman - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <howekern> cdavis, showing up in your system's error log could mean any number of things, and showing up in (say) lspci doesn't necessarily mean the hardware driveer is installed and working.
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about command - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <Jowi> !commands
[09:38] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[09:38] <graveson> Jowi: the Vesa driver works ,it is only when i load the fglrx driver
[09:38] <CyberSky> !sources.list
[09:38] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:38] <CyberSky> ! dabber sources.list
[09:38] <Jowi> graveson: so I guess we know where the problem lies then :) bug report it
[09:38] <Jowi> !bug
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dabber sources.list - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[09:38] <CyberSky> !dabber sources.list
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dabber sources.list - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <jldugger> gr33npho3nix, i get similar errors on  my nvidia computer at work, but switching from vt and back to x solves it
[09:39] <howekern> That's why I'm asking about iwconfig and ifconfig; if it's assigning your wireless card an interface, it would suggest that the hardware is correctly installed, and that it might be your network configuration.
[09:39] <jldugger> terr
[09:39] <cdavis> howekern, it doesn't show up in either ifconfig or iwconfig, only eth0 shows up
[09:39] <jldugger> graveson, i get similar errors on  my nvidia computer at work, but switching from vt and back to x solves it
[09:40] <howekern> Sorry, try ifconfig -a, for all interfaces, as opposed to just configured ones.
[09:40] <dwhsix> enabling ftp server... proftpd is configured in inetd.conf but no response... nmap doesn't show that port as open.  Do I need to do something else?
[09:40] <cdavis> howekern, that still only shows eth0, lo, and sit0
[09:40] <Jowi> graveson: you can try installing a different kernel as well.
[09:40] <howekern> Yeah, I think the driver's messed up.
[09:41] <CyberSky> !update sourcers.list
[09:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about update sourcers.list - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <howekern> Can you still boot into your old kernel?
[09:41] <CyberSky> !sourcers.list dabber
[09:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourcers.list dabber - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <cdavis> I suppose, I am used to fedora and I cannot find a grub.conf
[09:41] <cdavis> I guess I can choose the kernel upon boot
 what is it that you are trying to accomplish?
[09:42] <howekern> In my experience, apt-get leaves old kernels when it upgrades.
[09:42] <CyberSky>  Jimmi_jones  sources.list
[09:42] <howekern> You you have a second linux on another partition that could be messing with grub?
[09:42] <CyberSky> can u give me it ?
[09:42] <CyberSky> any error on my sourceslist
[09:42] <Jowi> !repos
[09:42] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
 I can give you what I am using, are you having trouble updating
[09:43] <d1> hi all, seem to have messed up my sources.list or maybe security keys.  performing 'sudo apt-get update' get a bunch of errors like 'Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release.gpg
[09:43] <d1>   Connection failed
[09:43] <d1> '
[09:43] <dwhsix> !proftpd
[09:43] <CyberSky> yes
[09:43] <CyberSky> Jimmi_jones, ya
[09:43] <d1> i've created a new default dapper sources.list
[09:43] <CyberSky> i have trouble updating
[09:43] <d1> in Synaptic however, all the security keys are gone
[09:43] <CyberSky> !easysource
[09:43] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.10-27ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 351 kB, installed size 1052 kB
[09:43] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:43] <d1> ya i did that
[09:44] <dipnlik> hi all. is it possible to include beagle search results in the deskbar search?
[09:44] <d1> using the plain vanilla sources.list source-0-matic generated
 I went through this this morning and what I found was that the upgrade to dapper changes your settings to think you are behind a proxy and that screws up the update/upgrade
[09:44] <d1> hmm
[09:44] <d1> this was installed as dapper
[09:44] <d1> either automatix or easyubuntu messed it up :/
[09:44] <Arrick> hey, guys, I cant remember where the sources.list is in breezy, someone refresh my memory please?
[09:45] <quiet> d1: yes, most likely
[09:45] <d1> it's in /etc/apt
[09:45] <Jowi> Arrick: /etc/apt
[09:45] <quiet> as they are not recommended/supported here.
[09:45] <pseudosymbiotic> hi everyone
[09:45] <georgy> Arrick, : /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:45] <Arrick> thanks guys
[09:46] <d1> i suspect that the lack of installed pgp keys in synaptic might be a problem
[09:46] <d1> however when i do this command, i get an error:  sudo gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 437D05B5
[09:46] <d1> gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file `/home/ostaudt/.gnupg/gpg.conf'
[09:46] <pseudosymbiotic> When I use the su command at in the terminal, it asks for my password. When I enter my password it does not accept it. Any idea why not?
[09:46] <jmoncayo> could anybody help me? whats the easyu encryption that ends with = ?
[09:46] <Jowi> d1: how about "apt-key"?
[09:47] <quiet> !sudo > pseudosymbiotic
[09:47] <jldugger> pseudosymbiotic, because its asking for root's password, and by default ubuntu doesn't set one (disabling root login like that)
[09:47] <graveson> has anyone seen this weird issue before, i am pulling out my hair . http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24556 , http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24557. Can anyone help me to troubleshoot this ?
[09:47] <pseudosymbiotic> just hitting enter does not work either
[09:47] <quiet> because root is locked.
[09:47] <Telroth_Plushie|> pseudosymbiotic, why doy ou need a root terminal ?
[09:47] <pseudosymbiotic> I am amazed people actually sit in here and try to help people
[09:47] <d1> apt-key update seemed to succeed
[09:47] <graveson> j;dugger: how do you switch it back to vt
[09:47] <Telroth_Plushie|> *do you
[09:47] <pseudosymbiotic> I am trying to follow the instructions for installing java on the sun website
[09:47] <d1> apt-get update still gets same failure
[09:48] <quiet> pseudosymbiotic: that's silly... we have it as a package
[09:48] <Telroth_Plushie|> pseudosymbiotic, enable multiverse and universe
[09:48] <Telroth_Plushie|> pseudosymbiotic, apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[09:48] <pseudosymbiotic> ok, so i dont need to go to sun, i just go to the snaptec or whatever?
[09:48] <Telroth_Plushie|> yeah
[09:48] <graveson> jldugger: how do you switch it back to vt
[09:48] <jldugger> graveson, im not sure if ati's drivers like it or not, but alt+control+f1 will get you vt1 and so on.  X is on vt7
[09:48] <Ape> Hello Everyone
 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24558 if you want them
[09:49] <Telroth_Plushie|> hi ape
[09:49] <pseudosymbiotic> Thanks for the help
[09:49] <graveson> jldugger: ok let me try that . i am deperate now
[09:49] <Jowi> d1: i don't know which repos you are using but this might help you http://dc.ubuntu-us.org/archive/
[09:49] <dipnlik> anyone here using beagle? i want to make its serach results to appear in the deskbar search applet
[09:49] <Jowi> d1: other repos might have a similar key page
[09:50] <dipnlik> having two ways to search things in my computer is not good =\
[09:50] <Jowi> d1: never had this problem so that is as far as i can take you atm
[09:50] <pwuertz> hi, anybody knows how to run ubuntu on a asus p5b-vm board? they are using a jmicron ide chipset... ubuntu does not recognize hard drives or cdrom
[09:50] <Arrick> guys I am trying to install fiaif and I am getting the following errors when following the guide on http://www.fiaif.net/installation.php any help will be greatly appreciated
[09:50] <Vampier> hi
[09:51] <d1> thanks jowi
[09:51] <howekern> cdavis, you still around, or'd you give up completely on my being usefull?
[09:52] <Arrick> the error I was mentioning befor is located http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24560
[09:52] <graveson> jldugger: no it did not work. although i am receiving this error : [4294708.759000]  [fglrx:firegl_addmap]  *ERROR* mtrr allocation failed (-22). not sure if it has anything to do with it
[09:52] <Vampier> I'm looking which of the following cards is supported by Ubuntu 6.0.6 - Trendnet 802.11b TEW-221pc or Microsoft MN-520
[09:53] <jldugger> graveson, does the live CD work ok?
[09:53] <quiet> Vampier: depends on what chipset it uses.
[09:53] <Vampier> dunno
[09:53] <Arrick> guys I am trying to install fiaif and I am getting the following errors when following the guide on http://www.fiaif.net/installation.php any help will be greatly appreciated
[09:53] <Arrick> the error I was mentioning befor is located http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24560
[09:53] <graveson> jldugger: the live cd and the MESA driver works fine
[09:53] <quiet> Vampier: then google 'linux TEW-221pc'  or the like.
[09:54] <Vampier> K
[09:54] <mildrew> hi, I'm having some trouble.  I want to mount a .iso file from the command line, and I'm running the command "sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /media/mydisk/my.iso /mnt/isoimage/"
[09:54] <rmd_> i'm trying to use the ubuntu desktopcd to repair a laptop hard drive.  when i boot it up and run mke2fs /dev/hda1 it starts out slowly and then just gets worse.  i try killing gnome--screensaver to make it run faster, but eventually, after an hour or two, the entire system hangs (around 74/154 inodes).
[09:54] <mildrew> but it says "mount: mount point /mnt/isoimage/ does not exist".
[09:54] <rmd_> do i have a harddrive problem?
[09:55] <jldugger> graveson, have you tried running mesa on the hard drive install?
[09:55] <mildrew> what does that mean?
[09:55] <viator> whats the command to scan for usb devices?
[09:55] <Vampier> cool queit microsoft works out of the box it seems
[09:55] <Vampier> :)
[09:55] <jldugger> mildrew, does /mnt/isoimage exist?
[09:55] <quiet> lsusb
[09:55] <georgy> viator :msusb
[09:55] <georgy> viator: lsusb
[09:55] <jldugger> mildrew, afaik, mount will not make directories that don't already exist
[09:55] <graveson> jldugger: is i switch back to Mesa,the prblem goes away. I need to have this ATI card working so i record my vcr tapes using the tv in :(
[09:56] <jldugger> graveson, ah, well im no good at debugging ati stuff =(
[09:56] <viator> i got this mvox mv100 usb speakerphone
[09:56] <jldugger> graveson, might ask in #ati or something
[09:56] <dustin> hey how do i add fonts for inkscape?
[09:56] <viator> at radioshack for $4
[09:56] <viator> thought maybe id get it to work
[09:56] <viator> for skpe
[09:57] <graveson> jldugger: oh i did not know there was an ati channel ,thanks
[09:57] <mildrew> oh, but I thought the idea of the mount command was that it created the mount point
[09:57] <Jowi> brb
[09:57] <jldugger> mildrew, naw, it creates the mapping from a mount point to a hardware device
[09:57] <mildrew> so should I create a directory inside /mnt/ to associate with my iso?
[09:57] <viator> ok i see a few things in there
[09:58] <jldugger> yea
[09:58] <jldugger> or in /media
[09:58] <CarlFK> how do I add "Directory Options FollowSymLinks" to apache2's .conf the 'ubuntu way' ?
[09:58] <jldugger> i donno if there's an LSB standard or anything that delineates what should be in /mnt and what should be in /media
[09:58] <CarlFK> I get the feeling I should create a new file in /etc/apache2/conf.d/
[09:59] <viator> lsusb shows my device
[09:59] <viator> now i just need to get it to work
[10:00] <viator> wondering if there is a driver meant for another device that may work?
[10:00] <Anh_Minh> Hi.
[10:01] <anto9us> *Ding dong* This is a public announcement, a fun quiz will start in a few minutes in #ubuntu-trivia. Thank you for your attention. *Dong ding*
[10:01] <^Ocean^> what happend too lilo ?
[10:01] <Vampier> lilo got hit by a car
[10:01] <Vampier> ....
[10:01] <Vampier> he died 5 days later
[10:01] <Vampier> sorry
[10:01] <Arrick> ok guys, I have fiaif installed, anyone here any good with it?
[10:02] <^Ocean^> oh shitty deal
[10:02] <^Ocean^> poor family
[10:02] <ArrenLex> !language
[10:02] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:02] <Vampier> yep
[10:02] <Arrick> YOU said lilo :(::::
[10:02] <GTX> Hello, My Friend is running the  xorg-driver-fglrx for ATI. But when I remote desktop into his computer its rubish, I have to click on everything to see whats going on, any ideas?
[10:02] <mildrew> jldugger: thanks, it's working nicely
[10:02] <jldugger> mildrew, np
[10:02] <^Ocean^> GTX: vnc and XGl dont like eachother right now
[10:03] <rosshend> when day will edgy eft be released?
[10:03] <jldugger> mildrew, i like easy problems ;)
[10:03] <Sanne> hi
[10:03] <georgy> rosshend, : october 6
[10:03] <rosshend> thanks
[10:03] <Entity> Hello, I would like to see a partition appear as a Volume icon in nautilus (in Computer). How can I do that?
[10:03] <mayk> guys, i'm now looking into downgrading a package (libssl 0.9.8 to 0.9.7) .. now i'm not that knowledgeable of the ubuntu apt-get upgrade process. when i downgrade it (if i get this working) , how can i prevent apt-get upgrade from upgrade libssl again ?
[10:04] <mayk> my question relates to ubuntu server 6.06
[10:04] <DeckApe> Where can I find a decent MUD client to run in Breezy?
[10:04] <GTX> ^Ocean^, I didnt say XGL :s
[10:04] <Hoxzer> where would you guys look for errors if /var/log/Xorg.0.log , /var/log/gdm/0:log , /var/log/messages and /var/log/messages dont show any and gdm freezes after login
[10:04] <bibal> hi
[10:04] <^Ocean^> whops my bad lol
[10:04] <dustin> hey where do fonts go?
[10:05] <jldugger> DeckApe, "apt-cache search MUD". any of those sound useful?
[10:05] <Znubbis> Hi guys, anyone got a recomendation of a good FTP client for X ?
[10:05] <jldugger> DeckApe, gmoo seems like it has postential
[10:05] <georgy> Znubbis, : gftp
[10:05] <Jowi> mayk: in aptitude you press the "=" key to hold a package to its current version. no idea how to do it otherwise
[10:05] <zaggynl> telnet!
[10:05] <ArrenLex> Znubbis: A good GTK one is gftp. A good QT one is kftpgrabber.
[10:06] <mayk> Jowi: thanx for the pointer, i will look into the = option..
[10:07] <dipnlik> Znubbis: or you can use Places, Connect to Server...
[10:07] <dipnlik> Znubbis: i like it better than gftp
[10:08] <Znubbis> thx guys ill check those out
[10:08] <dustin> how do you change your name?
[10:08] <dustin> in xchat
[10:08] <iqon> I'm having trouble getting dynamic playlists to work in 1.4.3
[10:08] <Arrick> is there anyone here who can help me out setting up fiaif?
[10:08] <EmxBA> elhello
[10:09] <EmxBA> can someone help me? i want to get my bootsplash back :)
[10:09] <bibal> dustin : /nick
[10:09] <EmxBA> any help?
[10:09] <erUSUL> dustin: /nick newnick works on any irc client
[10:09] <totalnewb> hi
[10:09] <bibal> :-)
[10:10] <EmxBA> totalnewb: hi :) do you need any help? :)
[10:10] <totalnewb> oh man yeah i always do
[10:10] <EmxBA> totalnewb: like what? i need my bootsplash back :(
[10:11] <GUIPEnguin> would it be possible to install ubuntu to an externel USB drive, and boot into it with grub from the externel drive, without having to boot from a cd and then boot into it?
[10:11] <totalnewb> when i type users on console is it normal to have 2  users listed with same name?
[10:11] <firefly2442> Has anyone installed MythTV 0.20 via the Edgy repository?
[10:11] <Anh_Minh> Can somebody help me? I just installed Dapper on my laptop. The wifi seems to be exchanging the datapacket with the router, but it can't see the internet, or the LAN's other computers...
[10:11] <bibal> totalnewb, on the same line ?
[10:11] <EmxBA> totalnewb: yes, one is you in the terminal, one is in another terminal, and third :) is opening firefox :)
[10:11] <totalnewb> yup same line
[10:12] <EmxBA> bibal: yap, when you have few tabs in gnome terminal or such things
[10:12] <bibal> it's normal
[10:12] <Gorgapor> Anh, i'm having a similar problem with a wireless card in dapper, but on a desktop
[10:12] <EmxBA> totalnewb: yap
[10:12] <totalnewb> well i guess i never noticed that before
[10:12] <jhasse> How to use DVD-RAM's under ubuntu?
[10:12] <EmxBA> can someone help me with the bootsplash or i'm out of here ? :)
[10:12] <totalnewb> and had the impression that system is running slow since then
[10:12] <Anh_Minh> Also, it's described as "unknown interface", with all info "unavailable".
[10:13] <totalnewb> like the cube when it zooms back after spinning it comes slower
[10:13] <EmxBA> totalnewb: you mean xgl?
[10:14] <totalnewb> yup
[10:14] <totalnewb> it used to do it faster
[10:14] <EmxBA> totalnewb: which? i have aiglx and the cube gets slow when the system gets overloaded (i run lots of apps at the same time)
[10:15] <totalnewb> well yeah that used to be normal i use xgl, but it is curious cause i just have xchat open and gaim
[10:15] <EmxBA> totalnewb: if your cpu is not overloaded, you have enough of free RAM, then you should check xgl config
[10:15] <EmxBA> in gconf
[10:15] <iLLf8d> hrm rhythmbox doesn't descend child paths?
[10:15] <georgy> Anh_Minh, : what's the output by typing lspci ?
[10:16] <iLLf8d> anyone know how to get rhythmbox to descend child paths?
[10:17] <totalnewb> my cpu is just 15%
[10:17] <EmxBA> totalnewb: ok
[10:20] <forevertheuni_> hi
[10:20] <forevertheuni_> I've upgraded to edgy
[10:20] <reitzell> how to I make it so I can connect to my box with ssh
[10:20] <forevertheuni_> and I'm having an error while compiling something:
[10:20] <yosyp> how do I stop X server in ubuntu?
[10:20] <jbroome> sudo /etc/init.d gdm stop
[10:20] <forevertheuni_> crypto.c:24:27: error: asm/unaligned.h: Arquivo ou diretrio inexistente
[10:20] <forevertheuni_> this is a glibc file
[10:21] <forevertheuni_> what can I do to resolve this?
[10:22] <kestaz> how to start setup with xserver won't work with ati?
[10:22] <kestaz> i changed to vesa
[10:22] <firefly2442> Why is the "Force Version" option under my Synaptic package menu greyed out?
[10:23] <kmasta> how can i get a java delevopement environment on my system?
[10:23] <forevertheuni_> how can I...hmm... to see from which package a file comes
[10:23] <Telroth_Plushie|> kmasta,
[10:23] <iLLf8d> hrm no mp3 support thats the issue huh
[10:23] <Telroth_Plushie|> enable multiverse
[10:23] <iLLf8d> how do you turn on mp3 support?
[10:23] <kmasta> telroth done
[10:23] <Telroth_Plushie|> then sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk eclipse
[10:23] <^Ocean^> iLLf8d, Install xmms :)
[10:23] <kmasta> did that
[10:23] <totalnewb> kmasta i used automatix to install java
[10:24] <mike-e> hi i need an application that will let me combine a bunch of mp3's together into 1 mp3, and i need to be able to make 1 minute pauses every 2 minutes or so
[10:24] <Telroth_Plushie|> iLLf8d, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[10:24] <mike-e> any ideas?
[10:24] <Telroth_Plushie|> kmasta, if you did that, then just go run eclipse
[10:24] <kmasta> telroth did that
[10:24] <Jowi> forevertheuni_: dpkg -S filename
[10:24] <kmasta> telroth, how do i run ecplipse
[10:24] <^Ocean^> mike-e, well
[10:24] <georgy> mike-e :  audacity
[10:24] <kmasta> telroght, what is eclipse?
[10:24] <Telroth_Plushie|> kmasta, run it from whatever start menu gnome has
[10:24] <forevertheuni_> Jowi, tnx
[10:24] <mikm> Java IDE
[10:24] <^Ocean^> mike-e, you could make a 1min blank mp3
[10:24] <mike-e> georgy : thought so, thanks
[10:24] <iLLf8d> hrm saying its not available
[10:24] <^Ocean^> mike-e, then cat mp3 >> big.mp3
[10:25] <Anh_Minh> system ralink, unknown device 0301 or something, subsystem, unknown device 2561.
[10:25] <Telroth_Plushie|> kmasta, eclipse is the most extensive java development environment
[10:25] <THX-1138> mp3 or sound editing "Audacity"
[10:25] <mike-e> ^Ocean^ ah never thought of that
[10:25] <Telroth_Plushie|> eclipse.org
[10:25] <mikm> Well, it's more of a platform
[10:25] <^Ocean^> mike-e, then cat space.mp3 >> big.mp3
[10:25] <kmasta> cool beans
[10:25] <mikm> Very extensible, etc.
[10:25] <kmasta> thank you
[10:25] <mikm> But mostly a Java IDE
[10:25] <Telroth_Plushie|> yw
[10:25] <^Ocean^> mike-e, then cat nexttrack.mp3 >> big.mp3
[10:25] <Telroth_Plushie|> eclipse can also do php and c++ if you install the right tools
[10:25] <^Ocean^> mike-e, i think that would work the easyest
[10:25] <Anh_Minh> And now I've tried restarting, it stops at "loading hardware drivers".
[10:25] <mike-e> why use cat?
[10:25] <kmasta> wait, i have a AMD64 system, does that make a difference
[10:25] <forevertheuni_> Jowi, does the channel have a bot with a repository?
[10:25] <Telroth_Plushie|> ^Ocean^, cp nexttrack.mp3 big.mp3 ?
[10:25] <firefly2442> kmasta: BlueJ is another much simpler IDE for Java :)
[10:25] <^Ocean^> Telroth_Plushie|, no that will copy the track
[10:26] <Telroth_Plushie|> eclipse is better :P
[10:26] <Jowi> !tell forevertheuni_ about repositories
[10:26] <Telroth_Plushie|> ^Ocean^, how is cat different ?
[10:26] <^Ocean^> cat will Display the contents too the tty, and >> pipes that ocntents doo a file
[10:26] <georgy> !compiz
[10:26] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:26] <mikm> BlueJ is one of the worst pieces of shit I've ever used.
[10:26] <^Ocean^> cp will overright the file cat >> will append too the end of it
[10:26] <Anh_Minh> I may have to reinstall. Again. :(
[10:26] <mikm> If you want simplicity, use vi(m)
[10:26] <Telroth_Plushie|> ^Ocean^, Oh, my bad.
[10:26] <eyequeue> !language > mikm
[10:27] <Telroth_Plushie|> Anh_Minh, why?
[10:27] <kmasta> i'm in a ap computer science class right now, and we are using Codewarrior as our IDE
[10:27] <Anh_Minh> Can't restart.
[10:27] <Anh_Minh> I have a problem with my wifi.
[10:27] <Telroth_Plushie|> kmasta, eclipse is better ;)
[10:27] <C-O-L-T> how to install limewire on dapper drake
[10:27] <mike-e> eyequeue : somehow i don't think mikm gives a hoot about what the bot has to say...
[10:28] <mikm> Why's that?
[10:28] <Telroth_Plushie|> kmasta, eclipse is what they use in industry, or so my teacher (who left industry 2 years ago) says
[10:28] <Anh_Minh> Every time I suceed in activating it, it stops being able to boot.
[10:28] <kmasta> awesome
[10:28] <^Down> Hi, my computer isn't auto-mounting my CD-ROM files, how can i do that?
[10:28] <Jowi> ubotu, tell C-O-L-T about limewire
[10:29] <mikm> mike-e, why don't you think I don't care about the warning not to swear?
[10:29] <ArrenLex> /pm ubotu
[10:29] <firefly2442> ^Down: go into Computer and right click and try mounting
[10:29] <ArrenLex> Okay, so maybe that doesn't work.
[10:29] <ArrenLex> Is there a command for that? xD
[10:29] <tjb891> does anyone know any good sights other than auction sights to buy old laptops on, for mabey like under 100 bucks ( i would be putting ubuntu or a vireint on it)?
[10:29] <ncalpunker> Anyone having issues partitioning during install?
[10:29] <forevertheuni_> :( :/ I don't get it I only have a unaligned.h in linux-headers...
[10:29] <forevertheuni_> I should have one from glibc in /usr/include
[10:29] <forevertheuni_> :/
[10:30] <^Down> Where is that? I'm using the kde desktop right now
[10:30] <firefly2442> ncalpunker: If you are trying to do RAID, the alternate ISO is the only one that will work
[10:30] <ncalpunker> No raid.
[10:30] <totalnewb> why do i get the message ubuntu-xgl channel does not exist?
[10:30] <Telroth_Plushie|> forevertheuni_, sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-<version> --reinstall
[10:30] <totalnewb> i was there last night
[10:30] <gnomefreak> totalnewb: #ubuntu-xgl
[10:30] <gnomefreak> with the #
[10:30] <mikm> totalnewb, pound sign?
[10:30] <ncalpunker> What is a good enough partion size?  I need to dual boot with windows and have about 25gig free.
[10:31] <Paddy_EIRE> !vim
[10:31] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[10:31] <rmorris84> is there a ubuntu networking room?
[10:31] <totalnewb> hmm thank you
[10:32] <forevertheuni_> Telroth_Plushie|, I have them in linux-kernel-headers but from my source based distro the file comes from glibc and not from linux kernel sources
[10:34] <Vicente> i need help with Dwl-g122 usb wireless
[10:34] <mike-e> hah, audacity has a widget for adding silence in seconds =P
[10:35] <^Down> Is there a command to mount my cdrom?
[10:36] <ArrenLex> Down: mount /dev/hdc
[10:36] <^Ocean^> ^Down, sudo mount /dev/cdrom /mnt
[10:36] <rmorris84> anyone in here with a working broadcom 4311
[10:36] <^Down> Thanks
[10:36] <ArrenLex> Or, if it's not in your fstab, sudo mount /dev/hdc <mountpoint>
[10:36] <Vicente> i can't get my wireless usb working
[10:36] <^Ocean^> assuming /dev/hdc is ur CDrom
[10:37] <Vicente> d-link dwl-g122
[10:37] <Jowi> /dev/cdrom should point to the correct device (hdc or other(
[10:37] <kestaz> is ubuntu can work with sataII ?
[10:37] <kestaz> ;)
[10:37] <kestaz> how can i see it ubuntu recorgnize my sata disk?
[10:38] <THX-1138> totalnewb because when people install xgl they don't stay and help okestaz - fdisk -l  l="list"
[10:39] <Vicente> algum brasuca aqui?
[10:39] <THX-1138> !ubuntu-pt
[10:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-pt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:39] <THX-1138> !#ubuntu-pt
[10:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-pt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:39] <Vicente> =3
[10:39] <Vicente> tks
[10:39] <fdoving> !pt
[10:39] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[10:40] <forevertheuni_> kestaz, ..it just does
[10:40] <Telroth_Plushie|> THX-1138, what about us xgl users not staying and helping ?
[10:40] <forevertheuni_> kestaz, dmesg | grep sd*
[10:40] <THX-1138> Telroth te roomis empty.
[10:41] <Telroth_Plushie|> THX-1138, not sure how you count, but when i count on my claws i get 93 people in the room.
[10:42] <THX-1138> Telroth_Plushie| - They are difficult to awaken then.
[10:42] <Telroth_Plushie|> i'll grant you that, but the room isn't empty :P
[10:42] <Telroth_Plushie|> anyways, is there someone i need to help with xgl ?
[10:43] <dan2> what's the next upgrade version of ubuntu after dapper
[10:43] <forevertheuni_> !dpkg
[10:43] <forevertheuni_> no?
[10:43] <forevertheuni_> lol
[10:43] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[10:43] <Telroth_Plushie|> dan2, edgy
[10:44] <dan2> Telroth_Plushie|: is it safe to upgrade from dapper to edgy at this time?
[10:44] <THX-1138> Telroth - not me. (using xcompmgr with xdesktopwaves and transset-df)
[10:44] <dan2> Telroth_Plushie|: in particular, I want an updated gmailfs
[10:44] <gnomefreak> dan2: no
[10:44] <dan2> ok
[10:44] <Telroth_Plushie|> gnomefreak, no ?
[10:44] <gnomefreak> Telroth_Plushie|: no
[10:44] <Telroth_Plushie|> why?
[10:44] <dan2> when's the projected release date for edgy?
[10:44] <dan2> or when is edgy going to be frozen
[10:44] <gnomefreak> Telroth_Plushie|: its not stable it not even beta right now
[10:44] <Telroth_Plushie|> (asking because i switched from dapper to edgy knot 3 a week ago)
[10:44] <gnomefreak> dan2: 26th of september
[10:45] <THX-1138> Was it Oct 23 or 26 for edgy??
[10:45] <dan2> gnomefreak: and that is for frozen or release date
[10:45] <gnomefreak> THX-1138: 26th
[10:45] <gnomefreak> frozen
[10:45] <dan2> ok
[10:45] <dan2> dude, that's only a few days
[10:45] <gnomefreak> dan2: release date is oct 26th
[10:45] <dan2> ok
[10:45] <gnomefreak> dan2: and i wouldnt call it safe than wither
[10:45] <gnomefreak> eitehr
[10:45] <THX-1138> gnomefreak - I saw XGL/Compiz was a low priority - any chance of it being included soon?
[10:45] <gnomefreak> dan2: ive been using it since the reposfirst opened
[10:45] <yosyp> where can i find an opengl debian package?
[10:46] <kestaz> why ubuntu can't see my sata disk?
[10:46] <vickythedoc> anyone free to help me?
[10:46] <kestaz> what can i do?
[10:46] <THX-1138> !ask
[10:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:46] <gnomefreak> THX-1138: they are included in universe/multiverse  and its going through alot of changes
[10:46] <gnomefreak> can we please take the edgy topic to #ubuntu+1 thank you
[10:47] <THX-1138> gnomefreak - heh - yes, a bit better almost daily
[10:47] <vickythedoc> my webcam wont work on amsn cos its' firewalled or behind a router' what should i do
[10:47] <^Down> Does anybody else's DVD's skip a lot with Totem?
[10:48] <forevertheuni_> why can I have linux kernel-headers and build-essential?
[10:48] <THX-1138> gnomefreak - Had some trouble with Cube i think, It leaked memory and caused my pricey turbocache nVidia card t crash. - pricey lol
[10:48] <gnomefreak> dan2: lets say this if you want to try it feel free but if it fails i hope you can either fix it or have a full backup and get to reinstalling dapper
[10:48] <erUSUL> forevertheuni_: sudo apt-get install ""both""
[10:48] <^Ocean^> vickythedoc, add ur computer into the DMZ
[10:48] <Jowi> ^Down: make sure DMA is on for your DVD drive
[10:49] <forevertheuni_> erUSUL, one remove the other
[10:49] <erUSUL> forevertheuni_: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential'
[10:49] <^Down> How do I do that?
[10:49] <vickythedoc> what is the DMZ ocean? im a toatal newbie and usless at comps
[10:49] <erUSUL> forevertheuni_: are you using dapper? becouse i have both happily instaled together
[10:49] <forevertheuni_> no
[10:49] <forevertheuni_> edgy
[10:49] <mikm> Probably shouldn't DMZ your computer
[10:49] <forevertheuni_> upgraded last night
[10:50] <Jowi> ^Down: in /etc/hdparm.conf add this: /dev/hdc(or what the name is for your dvd) {       dma = on }
[10:50] <mikm> Find out what ports the webcam needs
[10:50] <mikm> And just opens those
[10:50] <THX-1138> It's the machine facing the internet directly and NOT part of your local network.
[10:50] <^Down> Thanks
[10:50] <vickythedoc> how mikm
[10:50] <erUSUL> vickythedoc: DMZ desmilitarized zone
[10:50] <mikm> It varies from router to router, vickythedoc
[10:50] <mikm> Best to read the manual
[10:50] <erUSUL> forevertheuni_: ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:51] <josh_> ubuntu+1? whats that?
[10:51] <mikm> Generally, there will be a page called port forwarding
[10:51] <Jowi> ^Down: that will make it with DMA at boot. to enable it now run "hdparm -d 1 /dev/mydvddrive"
[10:51] <forevertheuni_> erUSUL, I'll try to see for myself
[10:51] <vickythedoc>  :( i dont have a manual, is there any other way of finding out
[10:51] <josh_> google the router model, or portforward.com?
[10:51] <mikm> vickythedoc, Do you know the make ?
[10:51] <THX-1138> ubuntu+1 is the next release Edgy Eft. (an Eft is a newt)
[10:51] <root_> hi all, what programm can i use do access my win2003 server Remote Desktop via Ubuntu
[10:51] <josh_> I know what eft is :D
[10:51] <mikm> root_ terminal server client
[10:52] <josh_> root_: Terminal Server Client
[10:52] <Josh1> grr
[10:52] <vickythedoc> ill just log into it and see mikm
[10:52] <nir> uh? does Ubuntu have Terminal Server Client?
[10:52] <mikm> That usually works
[10:52] <erUSUL> nir: Apps>Internet>terminal server
[10:52] <mikm> It should have obvious
[10:52] <THX-1138> root_ - TightVNC??
[10:52] <mikm> nir, under Internet
[10:52] <nir> ow ok thx
[10:53] <emesgee> hello, quick question, how do I completely obliterate the MySQL database (including users) and start over?
[10:53] <nir> thx all
[10:53] <^Down> Jowi: I get the message "HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device"
[10:53] <snooplsm> hey folks
[10:53] <nir> ow and any idea why my ubuntu cant get connected anymore to the internet :s
[10:53] <kestaz> how can i see the sata disk?
[10:53] <kestaz> dmesg ?
[10:53] <nir> the ip, subnet etc is correct
[10:53] <Jowi> ^Down: what do you type exactly?
[10:53] <nir> i can connect to my homework etc
[10:53] <snooplsm> when i do fakeroot make-jpkg jdk* i get this error: No matching plugin was found.
[10:53] <nir> but i cant ping to www.google.com for example
[10:53] <Jowi> ^Down: what is the name of your dvd in /dev?
[10:54] <^Down> I typed "sudo hdparm -d 1 /media/cdrom0"
[10:54] <GTX> Is there anyway to use esound on Ekiga?
[10:54] <nir> and no i didnt changed anything on my router, evrything worked before...
[10:54] <snooplsm> any help?
[10:54] <mikm> nir can you ping 64.233.187.99 ?
[10:54] <mikm> That's google's IP address
[10:54] <nir> ues mikm
[10:54] <Jowi> ^Down: you can not use /media/cdrom0. what does "ls -l /dev/dvd" say?
[10:54] <nir> yes mikm
[10:55] <mikm> nir, try rebooting your router.
[10:55] <^Down> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 3 2006-09-23 00:28 /dev/dvd -> hdb
[10:55] <nir> done that mikm
[10:55] <mikm> nir, are you on edgy or dapper?
[10:55] <Jowi> ^Down: so you must use "sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdb"
[10:55] <snooplsm> any help?
[10:55] <nir> dapper mikm
[10:56] <^Down> Okay. I did that. Is that all?
[10:56] <Jowi> ^Down: that
[10:56] <Jowi> s it
[10:56] <Jowi> ^Down: see if the dvd plays any better :)
[10:56] <^Down> Thanks =)
[10:56] <kestaz> is ubuntu supports sataII ?
[10:57] <kestaz> how can i check ?
[10:57] <mikm> kestaz, yes.
[10:57] <THX-1138> sudo hdparm -d 1 /media/cdrom0 - did this work for you?
[10:57] <kestaz> mikm, how can i check for disk ?
[10:57] <nir> i'l try to reboot my router again mikm
[10:57] <emesgee> o.o
[10:57] <kestaz> installation won't start
[10:57] <plagiats> hi ! I just made some variations of the future edgy default wallpaper. I putted them here : http://plagiats.free.fr/fonds/ maybe you wanna take a look and tell me what you think of it ?
[10:57] <Jowi> THX-1138: you can not use /media/cdrom with hdparm. you must use the /dev/ path to the dvd/cdrom
[10:57] <THX-1138> kestaz - mount ?
[10:58] <kestaz> with mount i can't see any disk
[10:58] <firestorm> anyone know a good gui ftp client? something similar to flashfxp maybe?
 Nice!!!
[10:58] <mikm> kestaz, what mobo?
[10:58] <^Down> Jowi: Thanks, it worked :D
[10:58] <Jowi> firestorm: gftp works well
[10:58] <THX-1138> Jowi - I know you are right tho. when i tried dev *pffft* nothing   /media/cdrom0 gave me dma enabled. - (shrug i dunno)
[10:58] <firestorm> jowi - thanks ill look into it
[10:59] <kestaz> mikm, i need to install ubuntu and that's all
[10:59] <Jowi> ^Down: no probs. to make it permanent, add what I said to /etc/hdparm.conf
[10:59] <soundman89> I have a modem & flash drive question......
[10:59] <emesgee> how do I get reset the MySQL database
[10:59] <mikm> kestaz, what distro do you have?
[10:59] <[H] 3b0R> what is the repos to keep xgl/compiz as updated as possible?
[10:59] <kestaz> ubuntu
[10:59] <Jowi> THX-1138: that is not what I would expect :)
[10:59] <plagiats> brian98, I just changed the colors and noise level.. what improvements would be possible according to you ?
[10:59] <mikm> kestaz, err sorry
[10:59] <simtower> is there a way to configure ubuntu-server to download packages from the internet instead of asking for the cd?
[10:59] <mikm> kestaz, what mobo do you have
[10:59] <root_> no go mikm
[11:00] <niruana> it didnt work, rebooting my router
[11:00] <mikm> Rookie-, for?
[11:00] <holycow> simtower, comment out the cd line in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:00] <mikm> Rookie-, ignore that
[11:00] <mikm> root_ for what?
[11:00] <simtower> holycow: thanks =)
[11:00] <niruana> to get on the internet mikm
[11:00] <niruana> i cant ping, surf to google for example
[11:00] <mikm> niruana, try refreshing DHCP
[11:00] <niruana> i dont have DHCP enabled
[11:00] <niruana> i enter it manualy
[11:01] <Jowi> simtower: don't forget to "apt-get update" after you have commented it out.
 Just a higher res ver, I love the orange one.... any chance of getting it without the text ;)
[11:01] <mikm> niruana, DNS servers up-to-date?
[11:01] <amicrawle> where are the commercial apps
 that's the brule
[11:01] <simtower> Jowi: thanks it worked perfectly!
[11:01] <amicrawle> the non-free  ver
[11:01] <Jowi> niruana: can you ping 216.239.59.99 ?
[11:02] <MadRabbit> What are the **main** differences between Ubuntu and Kubuntu, and do I need to d/l, burn a "server" distro, or can the regular "desktop" d/l's allow serving?  thnx for any help!
[11:02] <mikm> Ubuntu = gnome
[11:02] <mikm> Kubuntu = kde
[11:02] <niruana> yes Jowi
[11:02] <Jowi> niruana: that is google. your DNS is not ok.
[11:02] <[H] 3b0R> xubuntu = xfce
[11:02] <simtower> MadRabbit, ubuntu/kubuntu/ubuntu-server are three different things
[11:02] <niruana> so how doi fix DNS ?
[11:03] <amicrawle> where do i get deb repositiorys like from sarge
[11:03] <Jowi> niruana: do you know what DNS to use?
[11:03] <niruana> yes
[11:03] <niruana> i cant do something about it then?
[11:03] <Jowi> niruana: run "sudo network-admin" click the DNS tab and add them there
[11:03] <audibel> anyone be able to relate good experiences with ubuntu x64?
[11:04] <soundman89> Have prob. with AC'97 modem, dial-up program cannot find it...
[11:04] <Jaak_> how do i get my Fn + Swap between lcd and display button to work otherwise, now it just puts a clone on the other display, but i want it to swap and use other res (like it does in win)
[11:04] <niruana> so what ip's should i ad Jowi  ?
[11:05] <Jowi> niruana: you should add the DNS servers you got from your ISP
[11:05] <zerod> hi
[11:05] <Thuryn> yo
[11:05] <ziro01> sup?
[11:05] <niruana> i didnt :s
[11:05] <GhostFreeman> #ubuntu-xgl
[11:05] <Jowi> niruana: what ISP do you have?
[11:05] <Thuryn> good
[11:05] <ziro01> out of interest
[11:05] <niruana> i never used that Jowi ...
[11:05] <zerod> ??
[11:05] <niruana> scarlet
[11:05] <MadRabbit> I understand they are different...and thnx to mikm I now know the DE is the primary diff between u&k.
[11:05] <niruana> my debian, win2003, winxp are working fine...
[11:05] <GhostFreeman> whats the command to check for install kernel modukles
[11:05] <Jowi> niruana: i can check if i can find some for you. hang on
[11:05] <GhostFreeman> modules*
[11:05] <niruana> but not my ubuntu
[11:05] <niruana> ok Jowi
[11:05] <GhostFreeman> namely proprietary ati drivers
[11:06] <niruana> but Jowi  i never had to enter any dns... ubuntu worked one weak ago
[11:06] <plagiats> brian98, I can't give higher resolution cause I'm working from the file available in launchpad (which is 1600x1200px). No-text version will come when the wallpaper will be released without text. Cloning the background to remove the text just give bad results. :)
[11:06] <niruana> now it doesnt anymore, with working anymore i mean surfing on the net
[11:06] <andruk> when is edgy due out?
[11:07] <jbroome> october
[11:07] <jbroome> !release
[11:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[11:07] <Jowi> niruana: not sure if I found the correct page. is scarlet belgian?
[11:07] <firefly2442> Is there a way to ignore dependencies in Synaptic?
[11:07] <niruana> yes Jowi
[11:08] <GhostFreeman> whats the command to check for install kernel modules?
[11:08] <Jowi> niruana: so i did find the correct one, add *two* of these: 193.74.208.135    193.121.171.135    193.74.208.65    194.119.228.67
[11:08] <niruana> its working Jowi  !!
[11:08] <niruana> i think :p
[11:08] <niruana> i entered the ip of my router
[11:09] <niruana> yup it works
[11:09] <MadRabbit> is, say, the ubuntu-server os **necessary** to serve files intermittently?  or specifically for **full-time** serving?
[11:09] <niruana> damn weird, i never had to enter any dns :s
[11:09] <Johnutz> hy all finally i arrived where i wanted
[11:09] <Jowi> niruana: ah, yes you can use the routers ip (didn't know you had one) :)
[11:09] <niruana> thx for your help
[11:09] <Jowi> niruana: in case you need them in the future: http://www.tiscali.be/residential/nl/support/free_free_plus/verbinding/a144610
[11:10] <niruana> hmmm internet is super slow?
[11:10] <armandocl> hi
[11:10] <niruana> is it possible that my router has a small DNS?
[11:10] <niruana> a DNS records domain names... ?
[11:10] <tw9> guys, how can i install qt..
[11:10] <andruk> how do you guys suggest installing mythtv?
 well congrats I think it looks great!!!
[11:11] <armandocl> theh
[11:11] <emesgee> it was pretty cool, but I hated using a computer for it, which was on 24/7
[11:11] <andruk> ive looked around, and different FAQs tell me to do different things, people on IRC say mythtv is hard on dapper
[11:11] <Johnutz> HEY ! WHAT u have abandon for switching to UBUNTU ?
[11:11] <armandocl> hoy to install ati radeon 9600 ?
[11:11] <plagiats> brian98, thanks
[11:11] <MartinTang> I'm having a problem saving a file. I pasted something into fstab and it says I don't have the permissions to save this. What do I do to fix this?
[11:11] <phenex> is it possible to lock one of my workspaces with the use password?
[11:12] <phenex> *user
[11:12] <holycow> Johnutz, basically you give up being a slave to proprietary formats
[11:12] <THX-1138> MatinTank - gksudo or sudo -i <app to run with root privelidges>
[11:12] <armandocl> exit
[11:12] <andruk> Johnutz: or you can get automatix and dont have to abandon anything
[11:13] <MadRabbit> depending on whether I run Ubuntu or Kubuntu, can I add or change to the other DE once U or K is installed? (without a full install of the other?
[11:13] <Luck> How to isntall smp kernel?
[11:13] <andruk> MartinTang: you should prolly check that you are editing fstab with root instead of a normal user
[11:13] <Johnutz> holycow: good point
[11:13] <MartinTang> andruk: how do I do that?
[11:13] <andruk> MadRabbit: yes, just install the stuff from synaptic or apt-get
[11:13] <TheH> How can I edit Xorg to use both a Monitor and a HDtv at the same time?
[11:14] <Johnutz> how can in this chat to put the nick for replay automated ?
[11:14] <Ferramentapenna> Can someone chat with me one-on-one about Xgl issues for a minute?
[11:14] <THX-1138> !xorg
[11:14] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:14] <niruana> !xgl
[11:14] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:14] <andruk> MartinTang: use synaptic or apt-get to search for automatix.  install automatix.  then run automatix and follow what it tells you and what you want
[11:15] <andruk> MartinTang: ah stop, sry, wrong person.  you should just do something like sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:15] <andruk> Johnnutz: use synaptic or apt-get to search for automatix. install automatix. then run automatix and follow what it tells you and what you want
[11:15] <zaggynl> gawd I love ubuntu not using any swap
[11:15] <Jowi> MartinTang: use "sudo gedit filename" to edit a system file.
[11:15] <andruk> Johnutz: use synaptic or apt-get to search for automatix. install automatix. then run automatix and follow what it tells you and what you want
[11:15] <audibel> I've gotta say I'm pretty impressed with the automation of Ubuntu, you've made it extremely easy to install, whether I like that or not remains to be seen.
[11:15] <Johnutz> andrukL I know
[11:15] <Johnutz> 10x anyway
[11:16] <andruk> audibel: most things are easy, but you have to stick with the stable branch
[11:16] <andruk> Johnutz: sry
[11:16] <phaedrus44> has alsaconf dissapeared?
[11:16] <Johnutz> andruk: how can i put your name automately when i answer to u ? right now i type it
[11:16] <audibel> andruk, I'm hoping it will be easier than other distros to get my wireless working.  I've heard the out of box support for Ubuntu is really good
[11:16] <Smudge> Newbie here, in desperate need of Nvidia driver install help!:-/
[11:16] <MartinTang> adruk: alright it worked, thankyou
[11:16] <andruk> so, does anybody know how i can install mythtv and ivtv drivers?
[11:17] <MadRabbit> thnx for helping!  time to format a spare hd and put a penguin in it!
[11:17] <andruk> MartinTang: good, np
[11:17] <andruk> MadRabbit: thats the spirit!
[11:17] <Jowi> phaedrus44: alsactl
[11:17] <phaedrus44> cool thanks
[11:17] <holycow> Johnutz, back ... the other side of that argument is one must now take responsibility for the freedom
[11:17] <Johnutz> :)
[11:17] <holycow> Johnutz, after you have been using linux or open source or gnu for a few years ....
[11:17] <Telroth_Plushie|> question, i have a /boot/message file, but when i added the gfxmenu (hd2,0)/boot/message, it still doesn't load it. any help ?
[11:18] <holycow> you look back and you realize one thing:
[11:18] <TheH> How can I edit Xorg to use both a Monitor and a HDtv at the same time?
[11:18] <holycow> most people are perfectly happy to pay for convenience of not having to think, learn and make decisions
[11:18] <holycow> they will happily become slaves and pay for it
[11:18] <MadRabbit> everything has a learning curve...time to straighten it out a bit...
[11:18] <Johnutz> YEP
[11:18] <holycow> it really is amazing
[11:18] <andruk> yeah, like the freedom to simply play whatever you want on whatever you want whenever you for as many times as you want *glowers at AAC codec*
[11:18] <georgy> !nvidia
[11:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:19] <low_freak> does anyone know how to connect to the internet from ubuntu through an XP box?
[11:19] <av3nger> hola
[11:19] <av3nger> HI
[11:19] <TheH> How can I edit Xorg to use both a Monitor and a HDtv at the same time?
[11:19] <Johnutz> holycow: i want to put your name when i answer to youautomatically. How ? right now i just type it
[11:19] <av3nger> i need some support for a wireless SMC2862W
[11:19] <andruk> low_freak: good luck, ive tried it, its tough.  windows does not play nice.  so, setup internet connection sharing through XP (obviously) then connect your Ubuntu box to it and pray
[11:19] <Luck> I have procesor "Intel Core Duo" and Ubuntu 6.06 load normal kernel. How install symetric multiprocesoring?
[11:19] <Johnutz> i didn't use mirc for 6 years
[11:19] <av3nger> i can get it working with suse 10.1, but Ubuntu drapper does not recognize it
[11:20] <av3nger> any idea?
[11:20] <Byan> why am I getting this error?
[11:20] <Byan> -bash: ../init.d/opendchub: /bin/sh^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[11:20] <low_freak> andruk: i already tried that twice :/
[11:20] <av3nger> i try ndiswrapper and ubuntu is not recognizing it
[11:20] <andruk> low_freak: yeah.  by far, its windows fault.  ubuntu does nothing except accept an IP and an internet connection
[11:20] <Jowi> low_freak: no idea, but it involves having XP acting as a router. software firewalls are a big problem in such a setup. I know my brother used zonealarm (pro version) to do it but got tired of it and bought a cheap hardware router instead. less hassle.
[11:20] <TheH> How can I edit Xorg to use both a Monitor and a HDtv at the same time?
[11:21] <andruk> low_freak: the best i can tell you (and i am a big n00b) is to keep messing with ICS
[11:21] <amicrawle> silly  your screen is hd
[11:21] <georgy> !xinerama
[11:21] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[11:21] <Jowi> low_freak: somehow you can set it up with the free zonealarm version but only one pc can be connected at a time.
[11:21] <andruk> av3nger: what card do you have, what version, and do you have network-manager installed?
[11:21] <amicrawle> TheH  silly  your Monitor is HD
[11:21] <low_freak> ill shut down the firewall and try again
[11:22] <TheH> not really is a lcd 20 inch monitor and I have a hdtv 37 inch
[11:22] <av3nger> andruk, i have the SMC2862w
[11:22] <carlos> hola
[11:22] <av3nger> i have network manager installed, also ndiswrapper and even ndisgtk
[11:22] <andruk> does anybody know how to install mythtv and ivtv drivers on dapper drake without breaking anything?
[11:22] <carlos> somebody speak in spanish?
[11:22] <Jowi> !sp
[11:22] <ubotu> sp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-46ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 169 kB, installed size 592 kB
[11:22] <amicrawle> you need some codec  your tv is way faster then your screen at video
[11:23] <Johnutz> cineva roman ?
[11:23] <andruk> av3nger: i didnt need ndiswrapper, ubuntu just recognized it...
[11:23] <av3nger> carlos yo puedo
[11:23] <Jowi> hehe, not what i wanted ubotu
[11:23] <carlos> ok
[11:23] <Jowi> !es
[11:23] <av3nger> ???
[11:23] <Byan> does anyone know why I am getting that error?
[11:23] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:23] <carlos> de donde eres?
[11:23] <georgy> !ubuntu-sp
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-sp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <av3nger> the same card?
[11:23] <av3nger> how?
[11:23] <av3nger> i mean
[11:23] <Xenguy> !enter
[11:23] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[11:23] <gbellmann> Carlos, I speak spanish
[11:23] <justin_> So, im curious has the update issue been fixed, is it safe to update everything -- without my X dying on me, and various other problems occuring?
[11:23] <carlos> ah ok
[11:23] <av3nger> i just reinstalled ubuntu, and i see the card in LSUDB
[11:23] <GhostFreeman> I can reinstall older ATI drivers by running the installer for an older set over them, right?
[11:23] <av3nger> lsusb
[11:23] <amicrawle> if your hd tv has a pc plug-in then you need to reset your computer for it to see it
[11:23] <carlos> where are you from?
[11:23] <carlos> de donde eres?
[11:23] <av3nger> but i just get this message "Acces Point: Invalid"
[11:23] <gbellmann> argentina
[11:23] <av3nger> (espaol)
[11:24] <Johnutz> any romanian here ?
[11:24] <TheH> How can I edit Xorg to use both a regular Monitor and a HDtv at the same time?
[11:24] <andruk> av3nger: thats above me, but im just a n00b...
[11:24] <xopher> How do I build the linux-restricted-modules for a specific kernel version? Any ideas are welcome.
[11:24] <low_freak_> tx, it worked
[11:24] <Vampier> ubuntu runs on 600mhz right?
[11:24] <amicrawle> hdtv is not compatable with your system in Xorg
[11:24] <Jowi> Vampier: yes
[11:25] <amicrawle> hdtv is a tv not a screen
[11:25] <Xenguy> Vampier: definitely
[11:25] <andruk> av3nger: i tried to hard to get my wifi up and running.  i just used knetowrkmanager and it just worked
[11:25] <andruk> sry
[11:25] <TheH> anyone here has done that? tv and monitor?
[11:25] <babo> what's the best .chm extractor ?
[11:25] <amicrawle> you could do that on a amiga computer
[11:25] <av3nger> knetworkmanager?
[11:25] <av3nger> with gnome?
[11:25] <gbellmann> Hi, I have installes Ubuntu server for amd 64, but I don't have the root password... can anybody help me??
[11:25] <Vampier> xenguy with 192mb it shouldn't be a problem right... it lock up during instal
[11:25] <Vampier> :P
[11:25] <Vampier> gonna try without wificard
[11:25] <Vampier> bbl
[11:25] <Xenguy> Vampier: that should be sufficient RAM
[11:25] <Byan> gbellmann: your not suppost to have one, use sudo
[11:26] <xopher> gbellmann, you need to set it if you really need it. sudo passwd root
[11:26] <carlos> somebody use ubuntu?
[11:26] <gbellmann> it asks me for the password...
[11:26] <Xenguy> !root > gbellmann
[11:26] <Johnutz> andruk: see pvt msg
[11:26] <TheGateKeeper> anyone use ekiga?
[11:26] <Jowi> TheH: got a plasma connected via s-video. but since I have a LCD monitor there is some tweaking to do in Xorg.conf. basicly I had to add a "VertRefresh 50-60" in order for both to display (monitor runs at 60 and the tv at 50)
[11:26] <amicrawle> ubuntu  where is the nvidia page?
[11:26] <odla> carlos: ?
[11:26] <justin_> If your on 600mhz, (if your talking CPU) I would go with Xubuntu.
[11:26] <niruana> does anymbody have experience with FreeNX ?
[11:26] <niruana> http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/05/1718238&from=rss
[11:26] <odla> !nvidia
[11:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:26] <carlos> odla
[11:26] <Xenguy> niruana: some
[11:27] <Vampier> oki... let's try it again
[11:27] <Johnutz> what is the best torrent client in ubuntu ?
[11:27] <andruk> Johnutz: no pvt msg
[11:27] <odla> carlos: (03:26:08 PM) carlos: somebody use ubuntu?
[11:27] <andruk> Johnutz: didnt get it
[11:27] <TheH> yes well I'm trying to use the HDTV at 720p, 1240x720
[11:27] <odla> Johnutz: personal choice...lots of people like azureus though
[11:27] <niruana> would you recomand it to install it on my win2003 server? is it quicker then remote desktop?
[11:27] <[H] 3b0R> johnuts: bittorrent
[11:27] <TheH> I just need this monitor right now to edit the stuf cuz I can;t get a picture on the tv
[11:27] <Vampier> andruk you have to be registered to send privates
[11:27] <Jowi> TheH: does your monitor support that resolution?
[11:27] <Vampier> else it's blocked
[11:27] <TheH> yes
[11:28] <TheH> I have use ti on windows
[11:28] <odla> [H] 3b0R: the new bittorrent not the one in dapper :(
[11:28] <TheGateKeeper> anyone use ekiga?
[11:28] <TheH> with nvidia drivers but here you know you have to add lines to the xorg and I'm trying to do that
[11:28] <Smudge> Can anyone help me with the installation of my nVidia 6600GT? I'm a newbie...and struggling.
[11:28] <andruk> whoa...wait..what happened to lilo?
[11:28] <[H] 3b0R> odla: ?
[11:28] <georgy> !nvidia
[11:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:28] <andruk> Smudge: !nvidia
[11:28] <Jowi> TheH: if you have a "HorizSync" line in xorg.conf, try to comment it out
[11:29] <odla> [H] 3b0R: there is a new verison of bittorrent out that is really good
[11:29] <Jowi> TheH: oops, you have CRT or LCD?
[11:29] <carlos> i send message private odla
[11:29] <[H] 3b0R> ok
[11:29] <Smudge> what does !nvidia mean?
[11:29] <plagiats> Smudge, I can try to help you. what's the matter ?
[11:29] <Telroth_Plushie|> odla, wtf? bittorrent is a protocol
[11:29] <TheH> LCD
[11:29] <Jowi> TheH: ok, so comment it out
[11:29] <emesgee> Smudge: it activates the bot
[11:29] <odla> Telroth_Plushie|: no bittorrent is also a GUI client for bittorrent :)
[11:29] <TheH> well look I did modelines in fedora
[11:29] <emesgee> !nvidia
[11:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:29] <Smudge> Hi, Plagiats....
[11:29] <odla> Telroth_Plushie|: google it :)
[11:29] <andruk> Smudge: oh, my bad...nothing...just go here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:29] <TheH> but it did not work
[11:29] <viator> doesnt easy ubuntu install nvidia drivers?
[11:29] <Smudge> ok, the problem is I don't know what I'm doing....;)
[11:29] <odla> carlos: i didn't get it can you just ask here
[11:29] <Telroth_Plushie|> odla, oh, that. *despises*
[11:29] <TheH> I get a 720p picture if I di option "hd720p" on fedora
[11:30] <Telroth_Plushie|> Smudge, we all suffer from that
[11:30] <Johnutz> who knows wquivalent windows ppp internet connection errors under ubuntu ?
[11:30] <Smudge> So far, I have downloaded the package from the nvidia site....
[11:30] <Smudge> it's now on my desktop.
[11:30] <Telroth_Plushie|> Smudge, you just try something, and hope it works or hope you can undo what you did
[11:30] <TheH> but it doesn't open the widescreen, it look slike 4:9
[11:30] <Smudge> I had to install some dependencies and such...
[11:30] <Telroth_Plushie|> Smudge, apt-get install nvidia-glx didn't work ?
[11:30] <Telroth_Plushie|> Smudge, or is this not nvidia opengl drivers?
[11:30] <Jowi> TheH: more than I have an idea of unfortunatly
[11:31] <Smudge> I learned how to stop the x server to start the install, which I did do.
[11:31] <andruk> Johnutz: google knows everything
[11:31] <Telroth_Plushie|> Smudge, have you registered your nickname ?
[11:31] <TheH> I know I'm, missing something, but I I'm using ubuntu now, I know people have done it
[11:31] <Smudge> The last troubling message I got was I needed to supply information about the kernel source.
[11:31] <TheH> on ubuntu
[11:31] <carlos> ah ok
[11:31] <Smudge> that's where I'm stuck.
[11:31] <carlos> i need install Amsn in ubuntu
[11:32] <viator> why amsn
[11:32] <viator> ?
[11:32] <stefg> Smudge: how about just typing 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable' in a terminal
[11:32] <georgy> carlos : sudo apt-get install amsn
[11:32] <andruk> carlos: synaptic or apt-get, or you could just try gaim
[11:32] <Johnutz> what do you all of you do with your ubuntu OS ?
[11:32] <viator> gaim connects to msn messenger
[11:32] <carlos> yes i connected with gaim
[11:32] <ric1> anyone know how I can go into a terminal window directly from Nautilus (Like you can in SuSe)?
[11:32] <carlos> but i want Amsn
[11:33] <viator> i frown upon the use of msn
[11:33] <gaggi_---> can someone help me to find the package initramfs-cryptsetup_0.43_all.deb???
[11:33] <viator> anyone of my frined who try to get me to contact them using it i tell them thanks but no thanks
[11:33] <andruk> Johnutz: i produce music (electronica), im going to setup knoppmyth eventually, i use openoffice, bittorrent (*cough*), chat, surf...
[11:33] <viator> and we decide upon an alturnative route
[11:33] <d3ck4> ric1, you can add some nautilus-script for that..
[11:34] <Chai_Sangeen> hello eveybody
[11:34] <Johnutz> andruk: where r u from ?
[11:34] <ric1> d3ck4 can you explain a bit more
[11:34] <soundman89> can anybosy help with USB Flash Memory?
[11:35] <Hype> hello all, I'm wondering if someone can help me with getting a wireless linksys card to work on my laptop?
[11:35] <stefg> !wifi
[11:35] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:35] <andruk> Johnutz: Colorado, USA
[11:35] <TheH> How can I edit Xorg to use both a Monitor and a HDtv at the same time? please
[11:35] <lassegs> Hype: what laptop do you have?
[11:35] <andruk> Johnutz: you?
[11:35] <Johnutz> 10x 4 answer
[11:35] <Johnutz> romania , europe
[11:36] <andruk> Johnutz: ah, thats why you wanted romanian...
[11:36] <Hype> a sony vaio, I just bought an old one for cheap and installed ubuntu on it.
[11:36] <Johnutz> andruk: how can i put automactically your name in my answer to you ?
[11:36] <Johnutz> andruk: yep
[11:36] <andruk> Johnutz: no idea.  all i do is type your name and say what i want to say
[11:36] <Johnutz> andruk: but takes time :)
[11:37] <Roger__> i just tried to install the Desktop with ~8 GB free but the install failed because i didn't have enough space... I now have 18GB free ... will that be enough??
[11:37] <stefg> TheH: what video card?
[11:37] <Johnutz> andruk: I think to put back my ubuntu os
[11:37] <andruk> Johnutz: true, we should all change our names to asdf or something like that
[11:37] <TheH> 6600gt nvidia
[11:37] <odla> Roger__: 8 gb should have been plenty
[11:37] <lassegs> Hype: You know what kind of vaio it is?  THe name should look like this      Vaio VGN-A190  or this PCG-GRX616MP
[11:37] <odla> Roger__: ubuntu is ~ 2 gb
[11:37] <TheH> I have the drivers installed aready
[11:37] <andruk> Roger__: prolly, you might as well give it a try
[11:37] <TracerBullet> do ibook trackpads that aren't on USB work with the synaptics driver ?
[11:37] <Hype> PCG-XG29K
[11:37] <soundman89> my flash memory works in windows, but not ubuntu
[11:37] <Roger__> alright thanks all ... don't know why it said i didn't have enough space originally
[11:38] <fralle> hi, any one got any experinecne of  gaming under linux I have succesfully installed ATI drivers and quake2 but I can onley use software grafiks in the game, any ideas on how to fix this?
[11:38] <Johnutz> andruk: ubuntu is only os on yoyr computer ?
[11:38] <odla> Roger__: yeah 8 gb is more than plenty
[11:38] <stefg> TheH: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings, then check applications-> system for the nvidia-conf program
[11:38] <TracerBullet> fralle you need to change your Xorg config to use the new drivers
[11:38] <jazwec> please, does anybody have experiences with installing ipod linux?
[11:38] <plagiats> goodbye everyone
[11:38] <andruk> Johnutz: sort of, i kinda killed my install of XP (for the fifth time in a year) i prolly need to reinstall
[11:39] <TheH> ok
[11:39] <TracerBullet> andruk killing it once is sufficient ;-)
[11:39] <fralle> TracerBullet: how do I do that?
[11:39] <Jowi> Roger__: 4 gb is enough for a base install. 8gb should be more than enough
[11:39] <viator> plug the ipod in it should be recognied
[11:39] <andruk> jazwec: i have no experience, i just thought that i would bring up the point that you are invalidating your iPod warranty if you install non-Apple firmware on it
[11:39] <d3ck4> ricl, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-26668.html
[11:39] <viator> i dunno though cause i save music as ogg
[11:39] <lassegs> Hype: is the wireless network cards name CXD3222 i.LINK Controller?
[11:39] <TracerBullet> not sure fralle .. I don't know what the name of the ati binary driver is
[11:39] <Johnutz> andruk: my isp does not provide support under linux. that why i am stuck to win :(
[11:39] <viator> and my ipod has rockbox firmware
[11:39] <Dr_willis> Does anyone rember the name of that extension that let you sync your bookmarks in firefox on your gmail account? googling for it and not finding it. (thats funny eh?)
[11:40] <boink> !Bastile
[11:40] <viator> so its not really an ipod anymore
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Bastile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <boink> !Bastille
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Bastille - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <Johnutz> andruk: or at least dual boot
[11:40] <TracerBullet> Dr_willis it's on google's site
[11:40] <gbellmann> when i run the console, I can't see the last 3 to 4 lines, so I can't see what I'm typing, how can I configure this?
[11:40] <lassegs> Johnutz: what is the problem withusing linux with your ISP?
[11:40] <andruk> TracerBullet: well, when you simply shrink its partition, it really bitches at you.  im hoping the pain from a few deaths will teach it a lesson :-p
[11:40] <holycow> Johnutz, isps not supporting linux really has nothing to do with connectivity
[11:40] <tw9> !libgsm
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libgsm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <fralle> ok back to google then =/
[11:40] <Dr_willis> TracerBullet,  yea.. im looking.. i must be blind. :P or perhaps its because i am going to google.com/firefox
[11:40] <viator> isnt that what delicious os for
[11:40] <viator> is
[11:40] <holycow> if you know a wee bit about networking, and how to setup your ip address and various info you can lie your way through a conversation if necessary
[11:41] <Johnutz> holycow: support in the way tfor troubleshotinh suport
[11:41] <holycow> thats what i mean
[11:41] <TheH> I don't see nvidia settings under system
[11:41] <TheH> after installing them
[11:41] <lassegs> Hype: the name of your wireless device, what is it?
[11:41] <TracerBullet> http://www.google.com/tools/firefox/
[11:41] <stefg> Dr_willis:  http://www.google.com/tools/firefox/browsersync/
[11:41] <holycow> Johnutz, thats what i mean
[11:41] <andruk> Johnutz: just because it isnt supported doesnt mean you cant do it, they just wont know how to access things on your computer, and youll have to ignore their commands
[11:41] <Dr_willis> sync! thats the term. :P
[11:41] <dantrag> quick question (i hope)
[11:41] <holycow> if an isp requires a lot of troubleshooting you need a different isp :)
[11:41] <Hype> lassegs: it's a linksys wireless-G notebook adapter, model no WPC54G
[11:41] <Johnutz> holycow: sometimes conection is down and they ask me for investigation windows errors from ppp connection
[11:41] <dwhsix> just fyi from way back when - I got proftpd working by removing it from inetd.conf and starting it standalone
[11:41] <dantrag> sudo smbpasswd -a system_username   <---- is thats my user name right? so when i edit my /etc/samba/smbusers i put   dantrag = "network username"  ??
[11:42] <Dr_willis> stefg,  wow. google has a lot of tools ive never messed with befor. Heh..
[11:42] <holycow> Johnutz, you tell them you don't have admin right
[11:42] <stefg> google is your friend :-)
[11:42] <TheH> do I need to reboot?
[11:42] <holycow> Johnutz, then you tell them you have a router and it can't get a dhcp address
[11:42] <andruk> Johnutz: lol, just tell them you clicked too fast through the error msg ;-)
[11:42] <holycow> and let them sort out their own problem
[11:42] <holycow> they are using you to do their job
[11:42] <TracerBullet> Dr_willis not all of them very good.. some of them have modes which transmit every single URL to google in plain text
[11:42] <Johnutz> :)
[11:42] <phaedrus44> my kernel keeps freeeeeeezing
[11:42] <gbellmann> I can't see the last 4 lines in my console, can I change that?
[11:42] <phaedrus44> !
[11:43] <epidemik> how do you exicute a binary file?
[11:43] <Dr_willis> TracerBullet,  so they can see all the hits on Youtube.com :P
[11:43] <andruk> well, i must go work.  i will ttyl
[11:43] <holycow> epidemik, click on it.  it has to have execute permissions
[11:43] <TracerBullet> epidemik chmod +x /path/to/binary  ; /path/to/binary
[11:43] <lassegs> Hype: this guide seems a little old, but it should work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5645
[11:43] <holycow> most downloaded things don't have execute permissions by default
[11:43] <lassegs> Hype: see post 4
[11:43] <andruk> epidermik: google "wine linux"
[11:43] <TracerBullet> anyone using ubuntu ppc on an ibook ?
[11:43] <Johnutz> nice comunity i discovered here right now
[11:44] <Dr_willis> Picasa for ubuntu. :P cool.
[11:44] <epidemik> /home/kate/Desktop/targetware/targetware: error while loading shared libraries: libcurl.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:44] <epidemik> thats the error i got
[11:44] <epidemik> ib did the chmod
[11:44] <lassegs> Johnutz: it is, isnt it
[11:44] <dantrag> while setting up samba if it says "syste_username = "network username" where i put my username?
[11:44] <TracerBullet> epidemik install libcurl
[11:44] <lassegs> Hype: did you check out the guide?
[11:44] <graveson> does anyone know where i can find a tool to calculate modelines
[11:44] <soundman89> not to be pushy, but can anybody help with USB Memory
[11:44] <holycow> Johnutz, welcome, its pretty good.  people are people so some of us are jerks once in a while, but only because real life makes us cranky at times :)
[11:44] <TracerBullet> what about it soundman89 ?
[11:44] <holycow> but the channel has official guidelines for behaviour
[11:44] <Johnutz> :)
[11:45] <holycow> which is a good thing so everything gets sorted out in due course
[11:45] <stefg> !ask > soundman
[11:45] <holycow> not a lot of room for ego trips
[11:45] <soundman89> my USB memory works in windows, but not ubuntu
[11:45] <epidemik> TracerBullet: whats the name of package
[11:45] <Axe_> what ftp daemon do you guys prefer
[11:45] <Hype> thanks lassgegs, another question, can I install the drivers from the CD onto ubuntu in some way?
[11:45] <epidemik> i tried sudo apt-get install libcurl
[11:45] <Hype> *lassegs
[11:45] <epidemik> no package
[11:45] <Johnutz> holycow: do u have only ubuntu as OS ?
[11:45] <stefg> !ask > soundman89
[11:45] <holycow> Johnutz, only ubuntu
[11:45] <gbellmann> I can't see the last 4 lines in my console, can I change that? Anyone cna help??
[11:45] <Johnutz> holycow: not games adicted ?
[11:46] <epidemik> gbellmann no
[11:46] <lassegs> Hype: thats what ndiswrapper is for. Handling windows wireless card drivers
[11:46] <TheH> I have the modelines for my HDTV aleady for linux, how or where do I imput that on my xorg to make it work?
[11:46] <epidemik> TracerBullet: did you get that?
[11:46] <lassegs> Hype: google up on ndiswrapper
[11:46] <Dr_willis> gbellmann,  you may want to disable the framebuffer device IF you are refering to the actual console, and the 'fbset' command can also shift the screen around some. You on a LCD or CRT monitor?
[11:46] <holycow> Johnutz, i had to give that up many years ago, it takes your life over
[11:46] <Johnutz> holycow: how long do u use ubnuntu  as main os ?
[11:46] <holycow> addiction is the right word indeed
[11:46] <TracerBullet> epidemik ubuntu seems to come with libcurl.so.2
[11:46] <TracerBullet> oosp
[11:46] <Hype> Alright, I will, thanks a lot. I'll be back with more questions if I can't get this working I imagine.
[11:46] <TracerBullet> epidemik ubuntu seems to come with libcurl.so.3
[11:46] <gbellmann> lcd
[11:46] <holycow> Johan666, since second release, whatever that was
[11:46] <stefg> TheH: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:47] <epidemik> TracerBullet: okay so why isnt it working
[11:47] <holycow> before that i used debian for many years, i dabbledin gentoo, redhat, suse, mandrake, etc.  but debian is the correct way to build and organize an os  imho
[11:47] <TracerBullet> recompile the program if you have the source.. it should work
[11:47] <epidemik> TracerBullet: ...im kina a noob
[11:47] <epidemik> TracerBullet: i doubt i could recompile
[11:47] <TheH> yes but on the xorg if you have done it, what is it that I need to edit to get it to work?
[11:47] <TracerBullet> what software is it epidemik ?
[11:47] <Johnutz> holycow: i have 28 years and i hope that maybe now to be able to get rid of games
[11:48] <epidemik> TracerBullet: im trying  to get targetware
[11:48] <holycow> Johnutz, lol
[11:48] <epidemik> TracerBullet: http://www.targetware.net/
[11:48] <holycow> me too ... i reached a point where i looked at the hours i spent blinking my life away in front of a monitor
[11:48] <holycow> and said no way
[11:48] <lassegs> Hype: anyways, good luck with that. And i noticed that your laptop is not listed in the ubuntu laptop testing team: How about contributing? Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/ for more information
[11:48] <rmorris84> u know how when u push up or down in the terminal it shows the last commands u did? are those saved somewhere?
[11:48] <Johnutz> holycow: yep . i do programming stuff also but also games. whicch is not so good. waste of time
[11:48] <TheH> I have use that modeline before but have no success, I know I'm missing something
[11:49] <stefg> TheH: that's the job of the nvidia-config-tool. you should be able to select your output device there
[11:49] <Xenguy> rmorris84: ~/.history
[11:49] <detra> hello ... Why is my touchpad so incredibly slow ? When I plugin a mouse theres no problem ...
[11:49] <holycow> Johnutz, my problem there is a few ways:
[11:49] <holycow> 1. i cant turn it off
[11:49] <Jowi> rmorris84: /home/username/.bash_history
[11:49] <TracerBullet> epidemik you can try cheating and see if it works...
[11:49] <Kream> hi all. I've got myself a launchpad account and want to translate ubiquity (the installer program). However, I can't find ubiquity using the launchpad search
[11:49] <holycow> 2. todays games take many hours of training before you can really get in and have fun
[11:49] <epidemik> TracerBullet: what?
[11:49] <rmorris84> Xenguy: Jowi: thanks :)
[11:49] <TracerBullet> cd /usr/lib ; ln -s libcurl.so.3 libcurl.so.2
[11:49] <Kream> how do I translate ubiquity?
[11:49] <Xenguy> rmorris84: yw
[11:49] <TheH> humm
[11:49] <TracerBullet> type that command in.. and see if it works
[11:50] <holycow> 3. they are basically all the same, they just switch the assets around in any genre
[11:50] <Jowi> np rmorris84
[11:50] <czer323> Any suggestions on how to setup a command to minimize a selected window with a keyboard shortcut like: ctrl-M ?
[11:50] <holycow> games for teenaged boys are like oprah for soccer moms in other words
[11:50] <TheH> I have been working with the xorg, how do I get t the config of nvidia?
[11:50] <Johnutz> holycow: yep u have right
[11:50] <Johnutz> holycow: how old r u ?
[11:50] <TracerBullet> czer323 it depends on the window manager
[11:50] <master_blaster> will cron.daily run all scripts under su account, or my regular user account?
[11:50] <epidemik> TracerBullet: i tried that in console nothing happened
[11:50] <czer323> Tracerbullet> gnome
[11:51] <TracerBullet> epidemik .. now try running targetwhatever...
[11:51] <TracerBullet> targetware
[11:51] <Xenguy> czer323: Alt-F9  ?
[11:51] <epidemik> TracerBullet Heres the error i got
[11:51] <stefg> TheH: i told you to sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings... now use it (applications-system-Nvidia X server settings)
[11:51] <holycow> same age
[11:51] <epidemik> error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:51] <niki_> question : is there any difference in an install done with a kubuntu shipit cd and an ubuntu shipit cd with kubuntu-desktop installed?
[11:51] <Johnutz> holycow: lol - what to u use for torrents ? and what for online radion (aac format ? )
[11:52] <TheH> yes, it as no option to choose output
[11:52] <SlackRat> bleh, the new upgrade kernel doesnt wanna play nice with vmware......
[11:52] <epidemik> epidemik
[11:52] <czer323> xenguy> sure, now how do you change that to Ctrl-M
[11:52] <Dr_willis> niki_,  the latter will have both gnome and kde on it.
[11:52] <TheH> it just says what your
[11:52] <alror> hello i have a question. can i install ubuntu to my usb external drive?
[11:52] <TheH> running
[11:52] <holycow> i just use default torrent client ... others use auzareous
[11:52] <Dr_willis> alor you can - BUT it will need some work.
[11:52] <holycow> aac format ... donno never really needed that
[11:52] <epidemik> TracerBullet: Whats that error mean?
[11:52] <Dr_willis> alror,  that 'ubuntu hacks' book has a chapter on doing just that.
[11:52] <niki_> Dr_willis, will gnome apps work on an install donen with the kubuntu shipit cd?  or will i have to install gnome?
[11:52] <Xenguy> czer323: why not just make it easy on yourself and use this: Alt-Spacebar-m
[11:52] <Xenguy> ?
[11:52] <Johnutz> holycow: u aen't curios to see vista how it is ?
[11:52] <stefg> !xinerama
[11:52] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[11:52] <Dr_willis> niki_,  you can mix and match them.
[11:53] <Dr_willis> niki_,  i use gnome apps on kde and visa versa all the time
[11:53] <al_maverick> anybody here used unace to uncompress .unace files?
[11:53] <TracerBullet> epidemik the binary you've downloaded is basically compiled against a different set of library versions...
[11:53] <czer323> xenguy> totally notw orking
[11:53] <Kream> I have a launchpad account, yet can't find ubiquity in launchpad. I want to translate ubiquity. How do I do this?
[11:53] <stefg> !xinerama > TheH
[11:53] <epidemik> TracerBullet: Damn, so...
[11:53] <epidemik> TracerBullet: It wont work?
[11:53] <Xenguy> czer323: it's standard Gnome keybindings (and wind0ze actually)
[11:53] <Johnutz> holycow: i listen radio all the time when i working. and metal music of cource
[11:53] <TracerBullet> try runnningn ldd /path/to/binary .. and see how many libraries show up as missing
[11:53] <niki_> Dr_willis, ok...so would the be any advantages to reinstalling over my ubuntu install with a kubuntu disk, if i use only kde?
[11:53] <czer323> xenguy> holding alt and space, pressing m... and nothing.
[11:54] <TracerBullet> epidemik yeah chances are high that they won't work
[11:54] <epidemik> at all?
[11:54] <Dr_willis> niki_,  theres too many good apps out to just limit youreslf to kde. :P or to gnome.
[11:54] <TheH> thx!!
[11:54] <holycow> Johnutz, why aac support tho?
[11:54] <TheH> appreciate!
[11:54] <Dr_willis> niki_,  i always install ubuntu, then kubuntu-desktop
[11:54] <Ferramentapenna> Can  someone tell me the repos for; xcomposite xdamage libstartup-notification-1.0
[11:54] <holycow> xmms has great streaming support
[11:54] <Xenguy> czer323: alt(hold)-spacebar(letgo)-m
[11:54] <TracerBullet> anyone here using ubuntu ppc on an ibook ?
[11:54] <niki_> Dr_willis, ok, thanks :)
[11:54] <Farrier> I am having a little trouble installing an old JVM. A log of the things I've tried: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24579 Help, suggestions, or sympathetic laughter welcome :)
[11:54] <amicrawle> my nvidia 3d driver is not working
[11:54] <epidemik> Tracerbullet: didnt work
[11:55] <holycow> beep media player (bmp or whatever its called now) has also great streaming support
[11:55] <Johnutz> holycow: when radio emits in aac . xmms make buffering till 100% and then start over
[11:55] <epidemik> Tracerbullet: so what os is it compiled for? different distro?
[11:55] <holycow> why don't you download streamtuner and find an online metal station you like?
[11:55] <TracerBullet> Johnutz xmms sucks... try rhythmbox or amarok
[11:55] <Johnutz> holycow: vls for eample just works
[11:55] <Johnutz> vlc
[11:55] <holycow> Johnutz, try bmp
[11:55] <amicrawle> my nvidia 3d driver is not working
[11:55] <TracerBullet> epidemik yeah different distro or version
[11:55] <holycow> then use vlc :)
[11:55] <Johnutz> I will try
[11:55] <amicrawle> can i have help please
[11:55] <troughton> i cantget the sound working on my laptop
[11:55] <czer323> lol, xenguy> so, M is for move.  N is for minimize.  it's a pain in the butt though.  I'll just keep searching how to make ctrl-M minimize.
[11:55] <epidemik> TracerBullet: Any guess what distro?
[11:56] <stefg> holycow: that's really a pity...
[11:56] <Xenguy> czer323: n, yes - OK
[11:56] <holycow> stefg, what is a pitty?
[11:56] <Johnutz> holycow: i want to use onlu one application for music. mp3 radion etc
[11:56] <viator> whats the url for the radio stream in aac ?????
[11:56] <TracerBullet> it probably says something about it in the readme file epidemik
[11:56] <NeilyBoy> what program lets you access your linux partition in windows and copy files from linux to windows?
[11:56] <epidemik> TracerBullet: KK Thanks for the help
[11:56] <stefg> holycow: we all feel very sorry for that :-)
[11:56] <holycow> Johnutz, you should change that to 'i want to use the right tool for the right job'
[11:56] <nadon> when i am in gnome, can i switch to the CLI with ctrl+alt+f1, make edits to xorg.conf and then go back to gnome and restart x?
[11:56] <TracerBullet> np epidemik
[11:56] <holycow> understandeable tho :)
[11:56] <rmorris84> Xenguy: Jowi: how far back does that history go?
[11:56] <stefg> !doesn't work > holycow
[11:57] <holycow> stefg, lol, i'm not getting what the punchline is here
[11:57] <Johnutz> holycow: i heard that amarok is really good. but is it undet qt environment.... so i will have some gnome (ubuntu) mixed with kde. i do not like
[11:57] <viator> NeilBoy if you are using ext3 there is a windows driver
[11:57] <stefg> holycow: read your pm-tab
[11:58] <viator> banshee is ok too
[11:58] <SlackRat> er, Johnutz, qt is kde
[11:58] <ezenu> I have my jdbc connector .jar in my $CLASSPATH, yet anytime I try to run the simplest jdbc program, i recieve "no suitable driver" error, any ideas?
[11:58] <troughton> can anyone help me get my sound working on my laptop when the only drivers are writen for suse and are a nightmare to insall
[11:58] <czer323> xenguy> haha, of course, it was too easy for my own good.  it was in system> pref> keyboard shortcuts.  Thanks for your help though.
[11:58] <Johnutz> slackrat: indeed. is what i said
[11:58] <vickythedoc> help my webcam wont work with amsn
[11:58] <holycow> stefg, heh thats funny
[11:58] <Jowi> rmorris84: I don't know.
[11:59] <odla> vickythedoc: what kind of webcam?  is it recognized by ubuntu?
[11:59] <SlackRat> troughton: could you be more specific?
[11:59] <vickythedoc> odla, it tells me its behind a firewall or router
[12:00] <troughton> i have no sound on my laptop non at all
[12:00] <odla> vickythedoc: oh well then you probably need to open a port on your router
[12:00] <amicrawle> how to i remove a file from the shell
[12:00] <stefg> !sound
[12:00] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:00] <Johnutz> let's ask peaople: Hey for listening radio AAC format what application is the best ?
[12:00] <Jbirk> How does a 7300GT fair with Ubuntu?
[12:00] <amicrawle> like sudo apt-get  remove ?
[12:00] <vickythedoc> i tried that odla but it didnt help, or i did something wrong :(
[12:00] <Jbirk> Does the GeForce 7300GT work well with Ubuntu?
[12:00] <boink> Johnutz: mplayer
[12:00] <Jbirk> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130025
[12:00] <stefg> !hardware
[12:00] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[12:00] <viator> if you want someone to see you via webcam use ekiga
[12:00] <troughton> thanks tryed that this afternoon was in here for 2 hours doing that
[12:00] <Jbirk> I am ready to buy a card right now
[12:00] <Hype> lassegs: I can get the drivers installed, but on the step where I echo ndiswrapper >> /etc/modules I run into problems, it says permission denied.
[12:00] <stefg> Jbirk: should work fine
[12:00] <viator> it cant work with ppl using netmeeting