[12:12] <ryanakca> imbrandon: it's uploading, and I need to go have supper, see you in a bit
[12:34] <fdoving> nite all.
[12:56] <ryanakca> imbrandon: ping
[02:55] <bobesponja> hey all
[02:55] <bobesponja> I've just install knot 3 and amarok won't scan my collection
[02:56] <bobesponja> here is the error I get  http://p80.free.fr/snapshot1.png
[02:57] <bobesponja> I also tried removing all the samba shares but I still got the same problem so it seems like something is kind of broken either in amaro kor taglib :/
[03:18] <crimsun> my guess is an encoding issue
[03:21] <bobesponja> crimsun: maybe but the weird thing is that it used to work great on debian sid
[03:33] <jdong> any media junkies around?
[03:34] <jdong> I'm encoding some movies to x264/aac with a mkv container
[03:34] <jdong> what media players on what platforms will be able to handle this
[03:34] <jdong> and at a bitrate of 1000-ish, DVD resolution, what kind of CPU is needed to handle the playback?
[03:40] <bobesponja> jdong every media player support mkv but some of them need plugins especially on windows
[03:40] <bobesponja> see http://www.matroska.org/downloads/windows.html 
[03:40] <bobesponja> jdong for dvd quality you'll need pretty good hardware
[03:42] <jdong> bobesponja: thx; what is the definititon of "pretty good hardware"?
[03:46] <bobesponja> jdong I guess that would be 1gig of RAM and and a recent CPU, also a nice video card might help
[03:46] <bobesponja> but if you shut down many process unused process on your computer a minor config might do too
[03:47] <jdong> bobesponja: jesus... that's a lot over what xvid wants :)
[03:47] <bobesponja> jdong but what resolution do you have with xvids?
[03:48] <jdong> bobesponja: the standard DVD 720x480?
[03:48] <jdong> or whatever dvd's go at?
[03:50] <bobesponja> jdong but did you encode it in high quality? what was the bitrate? if it was a high bitrate dvd quality like you'd need a good config, if it was a low bitrate you could go with a "regular low config"
[03:51] <bobesponja> same goes with x264/aac
[03:51] <jdong> bobesponja: pretty average-joe with settings others say to work well
[03:52] <jdong> bobesponja: not terribly high quality, like 1000 bitrate for x264
[03:52] <jdong> 1500 for xvid
[03:52] <jdong> I'm not very picky
[03:52] <jdong> I just want to archive some DVD's to CD-sized files
[03:53] <bobesponja> if you archive them cd sized it won't be very high quality and so I guess you could go with a normal config even with a x264
[03:54] <jdong> bobesponja: that's good to hear. all I expect quality-wise is that it's not blocky as hell when played back on an average computer screen :)
[03:55] <jdong> as I said, I'm not at all picky
[03:55] <jdong> I've encoded xvid at a bitrate of 500 and considered it acceptable before :)
[03:56] <bobesponja> k cool :)
[03:56] <bobesponja> by the way do you know why I get this error with amarok   http://p80.free.fr/snapshot1.png ?
[03:58] <jdong> no idea....
[03:58] <jdong> sorry
[03:58] <jdong> poke imbrandon
[04:01] <imbrandon> bobesponja: file a bug upstream for that one, looks like
[04:01] <imbrandon> jdong: x264 encoding at anysize will require pretty hefty computer to playback
[04:01] <imbrandon> 320x240 H.264 video wont play on my 800mhx , 640mb ram ibook
[04:02] <imbrandon> withyout dropping 20fps
[04:03] <imbrandon> much better off going with xvid or divx mpegs for dvd to cd size digitizine, that way too it can be burned into a vcd without conversion later too
[04:03] <imbrandon> jdong: ^^
[04:04] <imbrandon> h.264 is really only nice for streaming , not filezise or cpu playback 
[04:09] <ryanakca> imbrandon: that iconset was uploaded, dunno if you checked it, and can you look at the kubuntu-default-settings? before anybody else adds something to it...
[04:10] <imbrandon> ryanakca: we're in a freeze atm
[04:10] <imbrandon> wrt k-d-s
[04:10] <ryanakca> imbrandon: ???
[04:11] <imbrandon> main if frozen for beta
[04:11] <ryanakca> ah... and when will it be 'unfrozen'?
[04:11] <imbrandon> when beta is released ;)
[04:12] <imbrandon> heya Hobbsee 
[04:12] <ryanakca> hey Hobbsee
[04:12] <ryanakca> it's last week's next week, can you finish looking at that icon set please?
[04:12] <ryanakca> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3238
[04:13] <Hobbsee> hey imbrandon, ryanakca 
[04:13] <Hobbsee> me?
[04:13] <Hobbsee> gah.  
[04:13] <Hobbsee> not currently :P
[04:13] <Hobbsee> and go to work
[04:13] <Hobbsee> oh, and eat :P
[04:13] <imbrandon> ryanakca: sure
[04:14] <jdong> imbrandon: thanks for the advice
[04:14] <ryanakca> imbrandon: thanks
[04:16] <ryanakca> wow... edgy's released in a month and 3 days...
[04:32] <bobesponja> will xgl be part of edgy?
[04:40] <crimsun> it's in universe
[06:26] <freeflying> seaLne: ping
[10:04] <seaLne> freeflying: pong
[10:06] <seaLne> in the bit outside the lecture theatres, where are you?
[10:08] <Riddell> lecture theatre 1
[11:03] <kwwii> moin
[11:24] <_Sime> g'day
[11:36] <Riddell> hi _Sime 
[11:53] <_Sime> Riddell: hey! how is it going?
[11:54] <Riddell> _Sime: slightly woosy down to too much guinness
[11:54] <_Sime> just another 5 or so nights to go.
[11:54] <Riddell> well, I have to leave on tuesday to get on with the kubuntu beta
[11:59] <fdoving> riddell, is it too late to include stuff on the edgy cd? 
[11:59] <fdoving> bug 59488
[11:59] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 59488 in ubuntu-meta "pppoeconf should be on livecd" [Untriaged,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/59488
[12:00] <fdoving> ^^
[12:00] <fdoving> leaves the desktop-cd useless to users of pppoe.
[12:00] <fdoving> they need the alternate cd, which includes pppoeconf.
[12:08] <Riddell> fdoving: remind me again after beta
[12:09] <Riddell> _Sime: have you looked at getting the folders in /media/ to mount when clicked?
[12:09] <_Sime> Riddell: it should not be possible to insert a disk and not have it automatically mounted.
[12:10] <_Sime> Riddell: although there are some know issues.
[12:10] <_Sime> Riddell: which I'll put up on the wiki today, and maybe find some solutions.
[12:10] <Riddell> _Sime: mounted automatically by what?
[12:11] <_Sime> "Do nothing" on the popup now automatically mounts the medium (but just won't open konq).
[12:11] <fdoving> riddell, ok,thanks :)
[12:12] <Riddell> _Sime: but if you just cancel the dialogue nothing gets mounted
[12:12] <_Sime> Riddell: not true any more.
[12:13] <_Sime> Riddell: true for dapper, not for edgy.
[12:13] <_Sime> things like usb-pens and disks are either inserted and ready to use, or not inserted.
[12:13] <_Sime> not inserted but unmounted.
[12:13] <_Sime> the state "inserted but unmounted" isn't useful for users.
[12:14] <_Sime> I'm not so keen on making file:/ automount things. (cdroms etc might be ok though, HDs not).
[12:20] <Riddell> inserting a cdrom it doesn't get mounted
[12:20] <Riddell> ah, "do nothing" mount it
[12:20] <Riddell> but not "Cancel"
[12:23] <_Sime> oooohh didnt' see that.
[12:24] <_Sime> "Cancel"  mmmmm...
[12:25] <Riddell> it's what I usually click :)
[12:25] <_Sime> I've never clicked on that one.
[12:25] <_Sime> there is also another issue concering logout/login.
[12:25] <Riddell> if you boot up with a cd in, it won't be mounted
[12:25] <_Sime> on logout your mounted cdroms etc get unmounted. --- not unreasonable.
[12:26] <_Sime> yes, and they don't get mounted on login.
[12:26] <_Sime> I should be able to get some code for that today.
[12:26] <_Sime> but I can't find the bit that actually unmounts stuff at logout....
[12:26] <_Sime> I've looked everywhere.
[12:26] <_Sime> I don't know who is doing it.
[12:28] <Riddell> ksmserver?
[12:29] <_Sime> I'ven't tried looking there. Got any starting points?
[12:30] <Riddell> not really, but that's what handles login and out
[12:30] <Riddell> can't see ervin around to ask him
[12:31] <_Sime> did you get that firefox style download manager thingy into edgy? (what you were working on in paris.)
[12:33] <Riddell> _Sime: no, that was low priority and I didn't get to it
[12:33] <_Sime> ok,
[12:34] <_Sime> there was a report that a unmounting progress dialog wasn't working in edgy.
[12:34] <_Sime> I've tried to find that dialog on dapper, and it won't appear.
[12:34] <_Sime> so I don't now if it even exists.
[12:35] <Riddell> I think it only appears after a certain length of time
[12:35] <Riddell> so only if the device is syncing before unmounting
[12:42] <_Sime> I've tried copying heaps of stuff to my mp3 player and then unmounting... nothing shows.
[12:43] <_Sime> mount options probably have a lot to do with it.
[12:45] <Riddell> make sure it's not mounted with sync?
[12:47] <_Sime> usb-pen on dapper /dev/sda1 on /media/usbdisk type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,noatime,uid=1000,utf8,shortname=lower)
[12:48] <_Sime> I guess sync is the default.
[12:49] <_Sime> async is the default.
[02:32] <GNUro> hi
[02:33] <Riddell> hi GNUro 
[02:33] <GNUro> Hi Riddell!
[02:33] <GNUro> Flash plugins works in edgy?
[02:33] <Riddell> works for me
[02:33] <GNUro> my firefox crash and my konqueror dont show anithing! 
[02:34] <GNUro> mmm ok thnx
[03:01] <bobesponja> hey all
[03:01] <bobesponja> I've just install knot3 and amarok won't scan my files http://p80.free.fr/snapshot1.png people on #amarok told me it was a kubuntu only problem 
[03:06] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: poke
[03:09] <Hobbsee> bobesponja: can you apt-cache policy libtag1c2a please?
[03:10] <bobesponja> 1.4-4
[03:10] <bobesponja> Hobbsee: 1.4-4
[03:10] <Hobbsee> interesting
[03:11] <bobesponja> Hobbsee: a guy told me on #amarok  "happens with kubuntu packages since 1.4.2"
[03:11] <bobesponja> if that helps
[03:12] <Hobbsee> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/58613
[03:12] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 58613 in amarok "Problem with libtag" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  
[03:12] <Hobbsee> seems to be that ^
[03:13] <bobesponja> Hobbsee: I don't know cause I removed all the samba shares from my collection and I still got the same problem
[03:14] <bobesponja> is that bug samba shares specific?
[03:14] <Hobbsee> no idea
[03:14] <Hobbsee> [23:14]  [Whois]  imbrandon has been idle for 6 hours, 45 minutes, and 54 seconds.
[03:14] <Hobbsee> darn
[03:18] <bddebian> Howdy
[03:18] <Hobbsee> hey bddebian 
[03:19] <bddebian> Hi Hobbsee
[03:19] <Hobbsee> bobesponja: i'm asking upstream if it's there problem or ours.
[03:21] <bobesponja> Hobbsee: ok thanx
[03:23] <Hobbsee> bobesponja: i doubt many people are around on a sunday night
[03:23] <Hobbsee> bobesponja: the guy who tends to work on it here is imbrandon, who seems to be asleep
[03:23] <bobesponja> ok, no problem
[03:25] <Hobbsee> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/60767
[03:26] <Hobbsee> say what?
[03:26] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 60767 in amarok "Amarok 1.4.3 requires libifp4" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  
[03:26] <Riddell> reject
[03:28] <Hobbsee> hey Riddell 
[03:52] <bobesponja> Hobbsee: I've just apt-get remove amarok and compiled it from scrach with libtag also and I still get the exact same error
[03:52] <Hobbsee> bobesponja: right, interesting.
[03:53] <Hobbsee> ask imbrandon when he gets back
[03:53] <bobesponja> ok I'll try
[03:54] <Hobbsee> nixternal: you around?
[04:25] <ryanakca> imbrandon: ping
[04:26] <ryanakca> kwwii: can you review an crystal-diamond please? (it's just as an extra iconset for universe...) http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3238
[04:31] <Riddell> kwwii can't review packages
[04:35] <abattoir> ryanakca: you now know whom to ask :)
[04:35] <ryanakca> lol
[04:35] <ryanakca> Hobbsee: ping
[04:35] <abattoir> :P
[04:36] <ryanakca> ?
[04:36] <ryanakca> You DID say you review them, and to ping you last week... I did... stop procrastinating :)
[04:36] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: what were you wanting?
[04:36] <Hobbsee> @time sydney
[04:36] <Ubugtu> Current time in Australia/Sydney: September 25 2006, 00:37:01
[04:37] <Hobbsee> ^ is why i'm procrastinating
[04:37] <ryanakca> lol later on today... when you rewake
[04:37] <Hobbsee> oh, and computing assignment
[04:37] <Hobbsee> mmmm....
[04:37] <ryanakca> lol
[04:37] <Hobbsee> could be smart
[04:37] <ryanakca> lol
[04:37] <abattoir> hehe
[04:37] <ryanakca> abattoir: hey :D
[04:37] <Hobbsee> i mean, right now i'd just look, say yes, because i plain dont remember
[04:38] <ryanakca> Hobbsee: go to bed
[04:38] <ryanakca> :D
[04:38] <Hobbsee> i cant even figure out sorting at the moment, and how to go from a reverse sort to a normal sort, the wya i want to.
[04:38] <Hobbsee> i will....
[04:38] <ryanakca> sorting?
[04:38] <abattoir> ryanakca: mmm sorry, was that a 'hi' hey? or a different 'hey' ? :P
[04:39] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: c++ programming assignment, which i'm finally looking at
[04:39] <ryanakca> abattoir: both... Hello and *pokes at the link*
[04:39] <abattoir> ryanakca: haha, i dont have any rights at all :)
[04:39] <ryanakca> drats
[04:40] <Hobbsee> you can review it anyway
[04:40] <Hobbsee> Riddell: might do it
[04:40] <abattoir> Hobbsee: if i only knew what 'reviewing' actually is ;)
[04:40] <ryanakca> lol
[04:40] <Hobbsee> lol
[04:40] <Hobbsee> means pointing out all the stuff that someone's done wrong :P
[04:41] <Hobbsee> in their package
[04:41] <abattoir> am i supposed to see if it builds?
[04:41] <ryanakca> imbrandon said it was fine... I'm just waiting for him to advocate for it on REVU...
[04:51] <Riddell> ryanakca: I'm not conviced about the licencing of kde-icons-crystal-diamond
[04:51] <Riddell> ryanakca: if it has stuff from OsX in it, that's not GPL compatible
[04:52] <Riddell> Nuove is GPL, not LGPL
[04:53] <ryanakca> Ah... *curses&
[04:55] <ryanakca> Licence: Free for PERSONAL USE if you own a copy of OSX, distributed without any warranty of any kind. Not for sale, auction, commercial use, or bundling. Keep out of reach of eye-candy freaks.
[04:55] <ryanakca> :( I guess it should be nuked then?
[04:59] <Riddell> ryanakca: definately make sure no osx icons are in it
[05:01] <ryanakca> Riddell: the OsX theme for gnome is basicly a copy paste of the OSX one... and the only way it's 'legal' to use the OsX one is if you own OSX, or if you own a license for it...
[05:01] <ryanakca> and since OsX is included into crystal-diamond, the only way you can 'legally' use it, is if you own OSX
[05:01] <Riddell> yes
[05:02] <ryanakca> so... a big 'no-no' for Universe?
[05:03] <bddebian> Doh :-(
[05:03] <Riddell> very much
[05:03] <ryanakca> meeps... same for multiverse I take it?
[05:04] <Riddell> it's copyright enfringement
[05:04] <Riddell> can't do anything with it
[05:04] <ryanakca> kk
[05:05] <ryanakca> nuke it on REVU please
[05:05] <Riddell> need to poke someone in #ubuntu-motu
[05:05] <ryanakca> kk
[05:05] <ryanakca> and you had reviewed qcomicbook, right?
[05:05] <Riddell> ryanakca: it's in NEW
[05:06] <ryanakca> can you explain http://librarian.launchpad.net/4377488/buildlog_ubuntu-edgy-i386.qcomicbook_0.3.2-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz to me please? (if you have the time, otherwise, I'll ask in #ubuntu-motu)
[05:07] <ryanakca> from what I see, it has something to do with x11-common...
[05:08] <Riddell> oh poo, that's my fault
[05:08] <Riddell> I need to fix cdbs to allow for no .pot files having been made
[05:08] <ryanakca> lol :D 
[05:11] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: where do you need what nuked?
[05:12] <abattoir> lol :)
[05:12] <ryanakca> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3238
[05:12] <ryanakca> so helpful all of a sudden, eh?
[05:12] <Hobbsee> that doestn require thought
[05:13] <Hobbsee> jpatrick packaged crystal icons.
[05:13] <Hobbsee> er, oxygen
[05:15] <_Sime> @time nijmegen
[05:15] <_Sime> @time amsterdam
[05:15] <Ubugtu> Current time in Europe/Amsterdam: September 24 2006, 17:16:01
[05:38] <GNUro> re
[06:09] <pygi> imbrandon: ping?
[08:15] <imbrandon> re
[08:16] <imbrandon> moins all
[08:18] <bddebian> Heya imbrandon
[08:18] <imbrandon> heya
[08:50] <Lure> hi all
[08:54] <imbrandon> heya Lure 
[08:55] <Lure> imbrandon: quiet here - everybody on Akademy?
[08:55] <imbrandon> heh yea
[08:55] <imbrandon> looks like it
[08:56] <imbrandon> quiet sunday afternoon ;)
[08:57] <Lure> imbrandon: I am just back from vacation, so I have lots to read ;-)
[08:57] <imbrandon> ahh welcome back ;)
[08:58] <imbrandon> i dident realize you were on vacation
[08:58] <imbrandon> are you commming to mt view ?
[08:59] <Lure> imbrandon: most probably - I am anyhow in US a week before and got OK from my company to attend
[08:59] <imbrandon> cool ;)
[09:01] <gnomefreak> imbrandon: is akregator your by chance?
[09:01] <imbrandon> gnomefreak: what ?
[09:02] <imbrandon> heh
[09:02] <gnomefreak> the package akregator news reader are you the maintainer?
[09:02] <imbrandon> we all kinda group maintain them, but i can, wasup ?
[09:03] <nixternal> imbrandon: dude, me an you are gonna take a trip to Banff, AB in Canada for a ski trip one of these days!
[09:03] <nixternal> i wish i was there longer..that place is beautiful
[09:03] <imbrandon> nixternal: hehe
[09:03] <nixternal> and the women shave ;)
[09:03] <nixternal> haha
[09:04] <imbrandon> LOL
[09:04] <gnomefreak> version 1.2.4 when you first start it the text is way too small to read (the news itself not the title) you have to go into configure and just hit app0ly to make text readable you dont have to change any settings
[09:04] <gnomefreak> apply
[09:04] <imbrandon> gnomefreak: okies, edgy ?
[09:04] <nixternal> my buddy lives in Calgary, and that was the first thing he said to me..."Welcome to Alberta, where the women here shave"
[09:04] <gnomefreak> yep
[09:04] <imbrandon> kk
[09:04] <nixternal> revu
[09:04] <gnomefreak> it should set text size from start
[09:04] <gnomefreak> ty
[09:04] <nixternal> ok...i gotta watch some of these bears here..i will bbiab
[09:05] <gnomefreak> save me from filing a bug and hopping it gets fixed for release
[09:05] <imbrandon> gnomefreak: heh ok
[09:05] <imbrandon> i'll see if i can figure out what it is now
[09:08] <ryanakca> is it too late to submit "bugfixes" ? I have a k-d-s on REVU... depends on what you consider a "bug" though... it's so that kicker is locked by default...
[09:09] <imbrandon> ryanakca: not too late but it will have to wait for beta freeze to end
[09:09] <imbrandon> like i said yesterday ;)
[09:09] <ryanakca> which is what... a month?
[09:09] <ryanakca> lol
[09:09] <imbrandon> when beta is released
[09:10] <ryanakca> so, when edgy is release?
[09:10] <imbrandon> oct 26th
[09:10] <ryanakca> 061026?
[09:10] <ryanakca> in other words, any bugs currently in edgy are in edgy till then?
[09:10] <imbrandon> no i said BETA
[09:10] <imbrandon> not release
[09:11] <imbrandon> main is frozen for BETA
[09:11] <ryanakca> beta is released when, 061026?
[09:11] <imbrandon> no thats edgy release
[09:11] <imbrandon> the final thing
[09:12] <fdoving> beta is 0928
[09:12] <fdoving> 4 days.
[09:12] <ryanakca> ah
[09:12] <ryanakca> kk
[09:12] <imbrandon> every time the cd's are made , there is a freeze just before for a few days
[09:13] <gnomefreak> 2 days after UFV
[09:13] <imbrandon> only bug s CRITICAL for beta are allowed to be uploaded and have to have a core-dev and mdz approval
[09:13] <gnomefreak> universe freeze *
[09:13] <ryanakca> same day as Universe Freeze
[09:13] <ryanakca> mdz?
[09:13] <gnomefreak> uni freeze is on the 26th
[09:13] <ryanakca> really? I thought it was 28th
[09:14] <imbrandon> mdz , aka matt zimmerman, aka a relesae manager , aka ceo canonical
[09:14] <ryanakca> it is... if not, feel free to edit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:14] <ryanakca> ah
[09:14] <imbrandon> gnomefreak: 28th
[09:14] <gnomefreak> ah 26th release is why i was thinking 26th
[09:15] <ryanakca> :)
[09:16] <Hawkwind> imbrandon: I hate to bother ya again, any word about that bug yet from the debian guys by chance ?
[09:17] <imbrandon> nope, Hawkwind you do realize how slow debian is right ?
[09:17] <imbrandon> heh
[09:17] <imbrandon> it take me about 1 month just to get a pckage uploaded that __I__ maintain
[09:18] <imbrandon> and thats trivial
[09:18] <imbrandon> ;)
[09:18] <ryanakca> ouch
[09:18] <Hawkwind> Ah ok.  The guy is just wanting to finish his project and he can't because of this bug :(
[09:18] <Hawkwind> Noone has replied to the bug or anything and it's been nearly 5 months since it was reported
[09:18] <imbrandon> has he poked upstream upstream at all ?
[09:19] <Hawkwind> He doesn't know who to poke really since the bug doesn't get assigned to anyone.  He said he has spoken to a couple of debian maintainers but they haven't done anything in nearly 5 months yet
[09:19] <ryanakca> ouch
[09:20] <Hawkwind> imbrandon: Is there someone specific he could/should speak to to get this done ?
[09:20] <imbrandon> yea debian is slow thats why i said upstream upstream
[09:20] <imbrandon> whats the bug number again ?
[09:20] <imbrandon> ( please dont make me search thousands of emails )
[09:20] <imbrandon> hehe
[09:20] <Hawkwind> Let me look and find it for ya
[09:21] <Hawkwind> 59816 is the second one filed, and 43386 is the original bug filed
[09:21] <imbrandon> bug 43386
[09:21] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 43386 in Ubuntu "Untranslated string "Please wait" during install." [Medium,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/43386
[09:22] <Hawkwind> Sorry, 43368
[09:22] <Hawkwind> bug 43368
[09:22] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 43368 in boost "no statically linked library in boost thread" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/43368
[09:23] <imbrandon> lemme grab the source hold on
[09:40] <imbrandon> Hawkwind: compiling now
[09:41] <Hawkwind> imbrandon: Kewl.  Many thanks for taking the time to do this since I know you are super busy with other things
[09:42] <imbrandon> no worries ;)
[10:06] <insanekane> has anyone tried to build PyQt4 with dapper ?
[10:08] <insanekane> anyone know why qmake generates Makefiles with QtCore_debug, rather than just QtCore ?
[10:09] <insanekane> oh got it ... cat /usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/qconfig.pri, CONFIG should not have debug in it
[10:20] <nixternal> da bears!
[10:36] <ryanakca> abattoir: ping
[10:55] <nixternal> how do i save a list of applications i have installed..so that way when i do a new install, i can use it to recreate my setup?  there is some funky/easy way of doing it..i just ca't remember
[10:57] <marseillai> nixternal: dpkg -l | grep '^ii' | awk '{print $2}' > liste
[10:58] <nixternal> awesome!
[10:58] <nixternal> thanks
[10:58] <marseillai> nixternal: and after : for i in `cat liste`; do apt-get install $i; done;
[10:59] <ryanakca> what about "dpkg --get-selections"?
[10:59] <marseillai> ryanakca: i've try but it braks some times
[10:59] <marseillai> many times in fact
[11:01] <ryanakca> wow... huge manpage... for another day :P
[11:01] <GNUro> hi
[11:02] <marseillai> ryanakca: in french but great documentation : http://linuxfr.org/tips/238.html
[11:02] <ryanakca> doesn't matter, I'm fluently french anywais :)
[11:02] <fdoving> nixternal: i think 'dpkg --get-selections > installed.list' and 'dpkg --set-selections < installed.list' is the way to do it.
[11:03] <nixternal> wow...another way ;)
[11:03] <nixternal> thanks
[11:03] <fdoving> it's basically what ryanakca said.
[11:03] <ryanakca> nixternal: doesn't allwais work, as marseillai said
[11:03] <ryanakca> nixternal: I lost some packages... a lot of them actually..
[11:03] <marseillai>  fdoving didn't work for me! --set-selections return an error the last time i use it
[11:03] <fdoving> always worked for me.
[11:04] <fdoving> marseillai: then you did something wrong.
[11:04] <marseillai> perhaps
[11:04] <ryanakca> didn't return an error, but it didn't install everything...
[11:04] <fdoving> might be a missing source in sources.list or something.
[11:04] <marseillai> nixternal: if you know french look at the link i've gave to ryanakca 
[11:04] <ryanakca> ah... yes, that's it...
[11:04] <ryanakca> nixternal: or have me translate it for you :)
[11:05] <nixternal> or google ;)
[11:05] <marseillai> fdoving: the sources.list was exactly the same and it works with the first method! but i agree the "debian" way to do is yours
[11:06] <fdoving> ok.
[11:15] <nixternal> is anyone elses "System Settings -> Monitor & Display" broken?
[11:15] <nixternal> The module Monitor & Display could not be loaded
[11:31] <fdoving> nixternal: i can confirm that, on edgy/ppc.
[11:32] <fdoving> nixternal: that is true for disk and filesystems too.
[11:32] <fdoving> and system services.
[11:34] <nixternal> fdoving: when you boot up, does kdm start up automatically for you?
[11:34] <nixternal> im wondering if this issue is tied into each other
[11:34] <fdoving> i think so,haven't booted in a while.
[11:34] <nixternal> yup, my disk and filesystems is gone as well
[11:35] <nixternal> ok...is this a reported bug i wonder
[11:35] <fdoving> also, user management is dead.
[11:35] <nixternal> that it is
[11:36] <fdoving> probably the kde-guidance modules.
[11:37] <nixternal> i don't know..i know that I have a lot of KDM and Xorg errors in my log files now, that were never there before
[11:37] <fdoving> mountconfig, displayconfig, userconfig works
[11:37] <fdoving> if you run them from the run command dialog.
[11:37] <nixternal>  doesn't work for me..i still get the same error message inside
[11:39] <GNUro> night!
[11:39] <nixternal> they are broke in KControl as well
[11:39] <fdoving> ah.. they work when run from console.
[11:40] <fdoving> not the 'run command' dialog.
[11:41] <nixternal>   File "/usr/bin/displayconfig", line 23, in ?
[11:41] <nixternal>     import xf86misc
[11:41] <nixternal>   File "/usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/xf86misc.py", line 18, in ?
[11:41] <nixternal>     import ixf86misc
[11:41] <nixternal> ImportError: No module named ixf86misc
[11:41] <nixternal> still don't work for me ;(
[11:41] <rouzic> Hi all
[11:41] <nixternal> userconfig does
[11:42] <nixternal> mountconfig and displayconfig give the same type of error
[11:42] <fdoving> they all work for me.
[11:42] <fdoving> from konsole.
[11:42] <fdoving> userconfig crashed though.. or stopped responding, until kwin asked for permission to kill it.
[11:42] <nixternal> interesting as the errors all deal with python files
[11:43] <nixternal> im wondering...i installed the subversion 1.4 today and that updated some python stuff
[11:45] <nixternal> fdoving: heh, i think you are right about guidance though..the python scripts being called and causing the crash, are guidance related
[11:50] <fdoving> i think so too.
[11:50] <fdoving> brb.. check on sleeping kid.
[12:00] <fdoving> nixternal: do you have /usr/lib/python-support/kde-guidance/python2.4/ixf86misc.so ? 
[12:00] <fdoving> nixternal: i think that's what's not beeing loaded.
[12:00] <fdoving> some how.
[12:00] <nixternal> i will check
[12:01] <nixternal> i just filed a bug with the issues...i have quite a few bugs i need to research here as well
[12:02] <nixternal> yes i do have it
[12:04] <fdoving> 'kcmshell mountconfig'
[12:04] <fdoving> says: 
[12:04] <fdoving> Pythonize constructor -- pid = 8380
[12:04] <fdoving> 'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
[12:04] <fdoving> Python interpreter initialized!
[12:04] <fdoving> 'import site' failed.. 
[12:05] <nixternal> pid = 17158
[12:05] <nixternal> then i get error: ***failed to import module
[12:06] <fdoving> same here.
[12:08] <nixternal> bug 62223
[12:08] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 62223 in kde-guidance "Monitor & Display, User Management, Disk & Filesystems - All Broken" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62223
[12:08] <nixternal> if you want to confirm it, and provide more info fdoving ^^
[12:09] <fdoving> ok. will do.
[12:09] <nixternal> there are some bugs that are similar to that one..but just in case they weren't, i didn't take over a thread
[12:10] <nixternal> they had one of the same issues..but the other bug was over a month old, and i know this issue hasn't been around for over a month
[12:11] <fdoving> the package must be 'kde-guidance' why are there two packages listed in the bugreport? 
[12:11] <fdoving> kde-guidance (baltix) ?