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fdovingoctan: ok, doing.12:10
octanthank you12:10
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scioncango: done12:11
fdovingoctan: where do you want the result? msg?12:11
octanpm pjerhaps?12:12
fdovingok.12:12
scionAge is no guarantee of maturity12:13
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cangoscion: i understand i must search in adep TR isn't it12:15
scioncango: yes for the language file12:16
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cangoscion: if i want whatever i search in adep isn't it12:17
scioncango: remember - Adept is your friend, use it for anything you might need as it has most thing since I helped you update your sources.list12:17
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clemyeatscango: right12:18
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cangoscion: which KDE themes do u suggest?12:18
clemyeatscango: ideally you should install everyting through APT (which Adept is a frontend to)12:18
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plugs_how can i create a dvd iso?12:19
cangoscion: which KDE themes do u suggest?12:19
scioncango: it really is personal preference, get them all and pick your favourite12:19
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cangoscion: i like ur theme i ask it12:20
dumbkiwiplugs_: use k3b - when you go to burn the disc, click the "create image only" option12:21
scioncango: in system settings > appearence click window decorations and the theme i use is called modern system12:21
plugs_ah yes thanks dumbkiwi12:22
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turricanmoin12:24
scionok guys and girls i'm going to disconnect, its time for some Prison Break Season 2!12:24
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cangoscion: how can i transparent my windows12:28
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cangoscion: how can i transparent my windows12:30
Dr_williswhich windows.12:31
Dr_willis:P12:31
cangoany program window12:31
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Dr_willisjust ANY - will proberly need the compwiz features.12:31
Dr_willisthat are still a work in progress12:31
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OODsome themes can support software transparency12:31
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Dr_willisand once ya use transparent windows.. you realize.. they sort of suck. :)12:31
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OODor use XGL/AIGLX/Compiz12:32
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fdovingnite all.12:34
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scionfdoving: until another day12:35
fdovingyeah, see you to morrow :)12:35
fdovingbye.12:35
scionfdoving: for another day of getting hammered out if it with questions!12:35
who_knows_who_i_hi, does anyone know a multimedia player for kde that can play .pls playlists from the internet?12:36
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nimnrod!multimedia12:37
ubotuFor multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications12:37
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scionwho_knows_who_i_: http://gnuru.org/?node_id=75112:38
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who_knows_who_i_thanks!12:41
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scionwho_knows_who_i_: amarok is good with .pls files12:42
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scionwho_knows_who_i_: amarok with the xine engine12:43
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octantcp6       0      0 *:ssh                   *:*                     LISTEN12:43
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octanhow do i get sshd to use ip V412:43
lupine_85octan: edit the config file12:44
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cangoscion: i download turkisk language pack but i don't change my language12:44
lupine_85it's in /etc/ssh somewhere (there's one for client and one for server)12:44
octanlupine_85, i see nothing in ther with tcp v612:44
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lupine_85I'd imagine there are howtos somewhere - anyway, you want ipv4 not ipv6 ;)12:44
lupine_85another key phrase is "what addresses is it binding to?"12:45
octanlupine_85, ?12:45
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lupine_85ok.. do you see the line "# Use these options to restrict which interfaces/protocols sshd will bind to"12:46
lupine_85See where it says "#ListenAddress <address-in-ipv4-form>" ?12:47
lupine_85Uncomment it and you should be ok - until someone hax0rz j0012:47
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octanlol oki12:47
knithxHow can I reboot the default settings for KDE?12:47
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scioncango: http://docsrv.caldera.com:8457/en/kdefaq/configure.html#AEN175312:48
octanlupine_85, i see this12:48
octan#ListenAddress ::12:48
octan#ListenAddress 0.0.0.012:48
octanso if i uncomment it i'll be fine?12:48
octanlike ListenAddress 0.0.0.012:48
lupine_85yep12:49
octanoki thank you12:49
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ubuntu_ahhhh12:57
ubuntu_boogggaggaa12:57
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ubuntu_free cd12:58
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main2ctrl+escape does not want to respond01:01
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octan!paste01:02
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:02
main2how do i start the k....... task thing.. ?01:02
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ubuntu_sims 2 dont install01:03
ubuntu_help01:03
scionmain2: kcron01:05
octansims?01:05
octansims as in windows game?01:05
ubuntu_yes01:05
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Skrot!nvidia01:09
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:09
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SkrotAre there any "standard" or ubuntu-ish ways to install newer nVidia-drivers than the ones in the reps+01:10
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nagyvHello! Finally I have arrived to captre a video from my webcam using vlc, but I can not see the image during it. Is there a way to capture and save at the same time?01:10
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omgwtfsqlis there any way to reset the mysql password, i'm trying to install ispconfig and it keeps telling me my password is incorrect01:11
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RawSewagehow do I fix that error when I do sudo apt-get it says  dpkg is locked/being used by another process?01:23
RawSewagesudo dpkg --config -i  doesnt work01:23
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RawSewageI mean configure01:25
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crimsunclose whatever holds the dpkg lock01:25
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BluDog_AnchoriteUbuntu_  if you get that working in wine or cedega, let me know01:32
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XTorchedXOMFG! WAS THAT MR. UBUNTU?!?!01:35
OODo.001:35
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Tm_TXTorchedX: what's your problem01:36
SkrotHi. How can I change the resolution of console, and still keep the splash boot?01:36
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XTorchedXi have a problem Tm_T?01:37
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EkkostormHey all01:39
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EkkostormDoes anyone know the path to the X System includes?01:39
Tm_TXTorchedX: with all those caps, yes01:39
XTorchedXrelax01:39
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Tm_TXTorchedX: oh I'm very relaxed ;)01:40
Tm_TEkkostorm: /usr/include/X11/ ?01:40
XTorchedXme too :D01:40
Ekkostormahh...01:40
Ekkostormduh01:40
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josh_i just destroyed windows01:41
josh_omg01:41
josh_i need it back01:41
XTorchedXcongratulations josh_01:41
XTorchedXohh01:41
XTorchedXwhy?01:41
EkkostormLOL... deep breaths josh_01:41
socresnobody needs it back01:41
EkkostormIt will be okay...01:41
josh_i tried enabling spread spectrum clocking and it wont boot into windows now01:41
XTorchedXwhat do you need windows for01:42
josh_gaming01:42
josh_all my pictures are on there01:42
josh_all my music01:42
josh_movies01:42
josh_documents01:42
XTorchedXjust mount it...01:42
EkkostormTm_T: don't think thats the one.  I'm trying to compile kmymoney2 8.5, it's asking for the X includes during the configure...01:42
josh_i can access it from linux but i cna't boot into it01:42
Tm_TEkkostorm: have you installed those?01:42
josh_it will load and then i get a blue screen and it restarts01:43
XTorchedXwhy would you need to boot into it for pictures music movies and documents?01:43
Dr_willisgee did ya disable the spread spectrum stuff...01:43
josh_and ALL MY GAMES01:43
OODit's called ntfs-3g, get all your files back :)01:43
EkkostormI tried looking for the package... but there are a lot of X packages...01:43
XTorchedXyeah did you undo what you did?01:43
josh_f.e.a.r. guild wars, prey, doom, need for speed01:43
Tm_TEkkostorm: btw, you should look at eqonomize, saved my life01:43
josh_all the 3dmarks01:43
Dr_willisEkkostorm,  proberly some xlib-dev packages01:43
josh_aquamark01:43
XTorchedXjosh_: are you 15?01:44
josh_16 lmfao01:44
josh_i can do anything in linux cept for gaming01:44
Dr_willisreformat/reinstall - the windows mantra01:44
josh_but i am a gamer01:44
Dr_willisGaming is for the weak01:44
XTorchedXyeah, those games suck01:44
Dr_willis'im a power gamer' is akin to saying 'im a power drinker'01:44
Dr_willis:)01:44
josh_fuk01:44
Tm_Tguys, behave01:44
josh_well plz help me fix it01:44
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bou9alhi all01:45
Tm_Tjosh_: what exactly you did?01:45
EkkostormTm_T: eqonomize? what's that?01:45
josh_i put a jumper on my hd01:45
josh_thats all01:45
bou9alI need some help please01:45
josh_to enable spread spectrum clocking01:45
Tm_TEkkostorm: lightweight "money app"01:45
XTorchedXok ok, so you enabled spread spectrum clocking...what happened when you disabled it?01:45
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josh_and i dunno why i did it either, i wanted to see if tehre were any noise or performance differences01:45
Ekkostormhmm...01:45
josh_i disabled it and now i crash when i try booting into windows01:45
XTorchedXapparently you've found a performance issue01:46
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josh_lol01:46
Tm_TEkkostorm: http://eqonomize.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html01:46
josh_well why would it do this?01:46
bou9alcan anyone help me please01:46
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XTorchedXyou could have corrupted your hard drive01:46
josh_:O01:46
josh_omg01:46
josh_omg01:46
josh_omgomgomgogmgomgomomgogmgom01:46
Tm_TEkkostorm: ugly screenshots but you get an idea, if that's enough for you, I recommend it01:47
josh_hold on i'll see if i can get all the files01:47
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XTorchedXok01:47
XTorchedXi'll wait patiently01:47
josh_oh my god01:47
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Dr_willis:)01:48
Dr_willisNext......01:48
XTorchedXhe's an exciteable bloke hey01:48
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Dr_willis'friends dont let friends use windows'01:48
OODlol01:48
Tm_Toh come on, quit it already01:48
XTorchedX'omg omg omg, i broke my crack pipe!'01:48
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josh_omg01:49
josh_i froze up trying to access my windows partition01:49
Tm_Tthat sounds... interesting01:50
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XTorchedXcheck the disk integrity01:50
josh_wait01:50
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josh_i can access everyting01:50
josh_just not my documents01:50
Tm_Tok, sleep ->01:50
josh_i have a year of pictures on there!!!!!!01:50
josh_which is like 5 gigs01:50
XTorchedXpictures of what?01:50
XTorchedXohh i know why you're worried01:51
XTorchedXit's all your porn isn'tit!01:51
XTorchedX'ohh noes! teh pr0n is g0n!!11!"01:51
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larson9999linux rocks!01:52
OODyep01:52
larson9999just restore from your backup01:53
brydennok i'm a retarded n00b. what is the "code" i need to put in fstab so my windows HD mounts01:53
larson9999it's so much easier to get pr0n these days01:53
larson9999brydenn: use the gui01:54
brydennwhat gui01:54
Dr_willishttp://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume01:54
brydenni just want it to auto mount everytime01:54
Dr_willisis worth reading01:54
larson9999brydenn: then afterwards you can check fstab and see what it puts in there.01:55
Dr_willisit details that and other options you may want to use.01:55
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josh___ok01:55
josh___i think even linux is being hit01:55
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brydennalright Dr_willis, thanks01:55
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josh___i'm freaking out here01:56
Dr_willisgee we never noticed01:57
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XTorchedXis josh_ upset about something?01:58
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Dr_willisi think his dog died...02:01
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XTorchedXpoor dog02:02
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nimnrodi installed Winamp using Wine but didnt work so well and now want to uninstall it... how?02:03
monkdrm02:03
monkdnimnrod: rm02:04
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elusive_jackalsudo rm -Rf /02:04
nimnrodhmm.. i dont understand.. could you be more specific please?02:04
monkdnimnrod: rm is the command02:05
monkdif you type rm --help02:05
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monkdnimnrod: it will tell you everything you need to know02:05
lupine_85behave02:05
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monkdnimnrod: after the /place the directory it sits in02:06
lupine_85nimnrod: you just delete the directory Wine installed the program into. Usually that's (in your home dir) .wine/drive_c/Program Files/(something)02:06
nimnrodi undesrtand that rm its for removing directories, but i want to uninstall Winamp not just remove it... i dont know if im right tho02:06
nimnrodlupine_85: thank you02:06
Dr_willissudo apt-get remove xmms02:06
Dr_williswinamp ?02:06
lupine_85nimnrod: because "Windows" doesn't exist on your PC, there's nothing to "uninstall" it from ;)02:06
Dr_williswine installs stuff in its own fake windows directory.. check there.. delete it.. or run the winamp uninstaller.exe02:07
lupine_85maybe a couple of extra registry entries will be left in wine's DB, but that's only a few hundred bytes of storage02:07
nimnrodi see.... im just exploring what i can do with Wine02:07
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Dr_willisuse wine to install spyware. so you an see what it puts where. :)02:07
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nimnrodnice tip02:09
nimnrodhaha02:09
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nimnrodis it possible to install Shockwave Player with Wine?02:09
Linux_Galorenimnrod: yes02:09
lupine_85nimnrod: as long as you install a browser for it as well :)02:10
lupine_85presumably Firefox ;)02:10
Linux_Galorelupine_85: I didnt02:10
nimnrodoh.. so it wont work with firefox02:10
lupine_85Linux_Galore: really?02:10
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lupine_85how does that work?02:10
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Linux_Galorelupine_85: yep, got flash 9 and shockwave working in the Linux version of firefox02:11
lupine_85(e.g. how does one get the linux browser to use the windows plugin)02:11
lupine_85phwoar. any linkys?02:11
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nimnrodwow02:11
Linux_Galorelupine_85: only if you have the 32 bit version of the browser02:11
dakoI am having a problem with CUPS. After I set up my printer it wants a login for authentication. Is there a way around this?02:11
nimnrodhow you did that Linux_Galore02:11
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gekko`_flash 9 is already released? thought flash 8 is the latest one :-)02:12
lupine_85hrmh... no, all 64-bit on my test rig :(02:12
Linux_Galorethere are two ways, you can manually create the plugins under wine or you can just use codeweavers and that will do it for you02:12
nimnrodcrossover software?02:13
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nimnrodI'd like to know how to do it with Wine02:13
Linux_Galorenimnrod: crossover is wine with an easy setup front end02:13
nimnrodoooh02:14
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nimnrodbut wine its free :-)02:14
Linux_Galoreor you can use winetools02:14
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motorcitymadmanhaving problem with kate spell checker. will not fire-up tp spell ck. how do i fix?02:17
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bobesponjahey all02:27
bobesponjaI keep getting this error when scanning my collection http://p80.free.fr/snapshot1.png02:27
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bobesponjathe version of taglib I have is 1.4-402:28
mike_Hello, has anyone tried automatix on kubuntu?02:28
motorcitymadmanmike_: i did last night02:28
mike_how did it go motor?02:29
motorcitymadmanall good, there is a install for ubuntu and one for kubuntu02:29
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mike_The install on the automatix site....thaT WORKED FOR YOU?02:30
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monkdwhere can i see list of all installed applications/02:30
Linux_Galoremike_: I wouldnt use it02:30
motorcitymadmanmike_: http://www.getautomatix.com/02:30
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nimnrod Linux_Galore: i downloaded shockwave player. could you instruct me how can i make it work with my linux firefox?02:31
motorcitymadmanLinux_Galore: why you say that ?02:31
j2daoshanyone inhere ever use qingy?02:32
Maneit!logs02:32
ubotuChannel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs02:32
Linux_Galoremotorcitymadman: becuase it edit files based on pre conceived setups, what happens if your setup is different02:32
Kr4t05nimnrod: last I knew, shockwave didn't work in Linux.02:32
Linux_GaloreKr4t05: it does but you have to use wine02:33
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Kr4t05Ew...02:33
nimnrodHOW?02:34
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Linux_Galorenimnrod: go grab a copy of codeweavers 5.01, Im not going to type 3 pages of internals text out for you so you can setup a plugin with wine in here02:34
nimnrodok02:35
gissiLinux_Galore: Are those 3 pages of intenals text available on a Wiki somewhere? You need to post it all here ;)02:36
gissiLinux_Galore: s/You need/You don't need/02:37
Linux_Galoregissi: god knows, last I heard winetools were doing something like codeweavers to simplify the creation of a binary plugin for firefox02:37
gissiLinux_Galore: That would be nice... Well, I believe nimnrod will have to Goggle for it then...02:39
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Kr4t05Does anyone know if Google SketchUp works in Wine?02:44
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gissinimnrod: I believe this can help you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave02:48
gissinimnrod: Very odd that you have to install Firefox for Windows but should work, I didn't test :)02:49
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Linux_Galorehttp://www.wine-doors.org/ is the FOSS version  of codeweavers02:49
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cangohelp my adept not opened02:55
cangois anybody help me02:56
Dr_willishmm02:56
cangoadept make an error02:57
cangodr_willis: help me02:58
Dr_willisand the error is ?02:58
Kr4t05cango: what's your native language?02:58
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cangoturkish02:58
Kr4t05!tr02:59
ubotuTurk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.02:59
cangoKr4t05: tr02:59
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cangoAnother process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.03:00
cangois the error.03:00
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cangoAnother process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.03:01
cangois the03:02
cangoerror03:02
hmonstercango--what other programs are you running?03:02
cangonothing03:02
cangoi restart my comp but it didn't03:03
hmonstercango-do you have a terminal open that you ran su on?03:03
cangoterminal like what03:03
hmonsterkonsole03:03
cangomaybe03:04
cangowhat must i do03:04
hmonsterI know that if I have a terminal open that I ran su, sudo in03:04
hmonstereven when I exit out of su, I will get that error03:05
Dr_willisbut if he rebooted.. that couldent be it.03:05
hmonsterI have to close that terminal session03:05
cangohmonster: i download some packages with adept and downloaded but when it readying i close adept03:05
hmonsterwas it all done?03:06
Dr_willisadept has a lock file that may of not gotten cleaned out. but i forget the exact place of that.03:06
cangook03:06
Dr_willisthe bot has a factoid for it03:06
Dr_willis!lock03:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:06
cangowhat must i do03:07
cangohey men what must i do03:07
hmonsterwas adept all done?03:07
cangono03:07
hmonsteryou just closed adept without it finishing?03:08
cangoyeah03:08
hmonsterdpkg --configure -a03:09
|GaiJin|hmmm.... do we have some way of installing and browsing themes in kde??03:09
hmonsterwill finish up stuff left undone03:09
cangomy console said that "dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege"03:10
|GaiJin|sudo in front then03:10
hmonsterkdesu03:10
hmonsteror gnome equivalent03:10
Dr_willis|GaiJin|,   not noticed a similer feature to that gnome-art program. :(03:10
hmonsternvm this is Kubuntu03:11
Dr_willisbut i found plenty of decent themes in the standard repos.03:11
cangowhat can i do03:11
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|GaiJin|yeah.... just browsed alittle... and found alot of sweet things...03:11
|GaiJin|but would have been nice to have a graphical tool for them03:11
hmonstersudo dpkg --configure -a03:12
Dr_willisI found that gnome-art program nice.. and very annoying.03:12
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Dr_willis1000+ themes. and most of them stink. :P03:12
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cangomy console said that "dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege"03:12
|GaiJin|what hmonster said... and enter password...03:13
hmonsterhave you set a root password?03:13
|GaiJin|and then enter03:13
cangomy console said "dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege" when i enter sudo dpkg --configure -a"03:13
Kr4t05Man, XGL is going to make me angry.03:13
crimsunthen don't use Xgl03:13
cangohelp help help03:15
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hmonsterdo you know root password?03:15
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cangoyes03:15
|GaiJin|kubuntu don't have root pass out of box....03:16
hmonstersu <enter>03:16
cangowhen i type reset adept what happened03:16
cangohmonster: when i type reset adept what happened03:17
hmonsterI dont know what reset adept does03:17
|GaiJin|nothing03:18
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dive-oHow do I set my system to automatically set the MTU on my network interface on bootup? Running gig-e here, and I'd like it to set the mtu to 9000 on bootup03:30
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AWOSDevI'm getting very fed up with crontab.03:35
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Dr_willisdive-o,  could put a command in the rc.local file03:35
AWOSDev"/tmp/crontab.dMkKQh/crontab":2: bad minute03:35
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Dr_willisbut i dont even know what the command would be to set it03:35
crimsunAWOSDev: paste the crontab entry03:36
Kamping_KaiserAWOSDev, paste us the line03:36
Kamping_Kaiserer, sory :|03:36
Kamping_Kaiserhi crimsun03:36
dive-oDr_willis: I know the command, I just wasn't sure debian/ubuntu even processed rc.local03:36
crimsunhi Kamping_Kaiser03:36
dive-othanks :)03:37
AWOSDev*/5 *  *   *   *     wget http://some/web/site/ -O "/home/awilcox/some/folder/$(date "+\%d \%b \%y \%H \%M \").html"03:37
Dr_willisdive-o,  id assume if  they ignored /etc/rc,local - it wouldent be there. :P03:37
Dr_willisheh heh - i know it works in edgy03:37
AWOSDevAlso tried with just a * vs */503:37
Homerwhats good HTML editor for KDE?03:37
Homerperferably one with fast preview03:37
dive-oDr_willis: yeah, that'll teach me to check before asking :P03:37
Kamping_Kaiseriirc you need 0 instead of * for the hour/minute03:38
dive-oI try to ask first so I don't hose packages or something, since I'm more of a BSD person but love kubuntu on my desktop03:38
AWOSDevHomer, personally I would use KDevelop03:38
Homerisn't that overkill03:38
crimsunyou can actually strip the leading '*/'03:38
crimsunit's implied per se03:38
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AWOSDevWell I like it but that's probably because I do PHP Perl C++ Assembly and Shell Scripts too.  :)03:38
AWOSDevcrimsun I tried just '30' too03:39
AWOSDevwith no quotes03:39
AWOSDevI want it to do it at the top and bottom of every hour03:39
dive-osweet, after turning on jumbo frames on my fileserver & desktop I'm getting 40MB/s :-)03:39
AWOSDevbut I just tried random things to try and make it work03:39
AWOSDevdive-o, where can I do that?  :P03:40
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AWOSDevBut anyway back to my crontab what is wrong with it?03:41
AWOSDevIt is getting very frustrating and irratating03:41
AWOSDevI looked on Google and Ubuntuforums to no avail03:41
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dive-oAWOSDev: buy yourself a netgear GS108, and have two machines with decent onboard gigabit03:42
AWOSDevI don't have any gigabit cards though :P03:42
dive-othat'd be an issue03:42
AWOSDevNo I know I have to get gigabit so I was just kidding, didn't you see the smiley at the end?03:43
AWOSDev:)03:43
dive-omy fileserver: http://www.endersgame.net/~dive/jane.txt03:43
dive-oworkstation: http://www.endersgame.net/~dive/ender.txt03:43
AWOSDev2x750GB?!!??!!?03:44
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lmoshermy screen just goes blank when I hit Ctrl+Alt+F1. It never did this before I installed the 'nvidia' drivers (it works fine under the 'nv' driver)03:44
dive-oyeah. that's what happens when I have over $1000 in checking, get drunk, and type in newegg.03:44
crimsunAWOSDev: what is that last \ escaping?03:44
dive-oscary thing is that it's almost at 50%.03:44
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AWOSDev% S03:45
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AWOSDevKonversation takes it as a strikeout:P03:45
dive-omemorizing my debit card number is probably the worst thing I've ever done for my finances :-P03:45
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AWOSDevLOL @ dive-o :) :) :) :)03:45
crimsunso it's '\%S'?03:46
AWOSDevYes03:46
AWOSDevhow'd you do that?03:46
AWOSDevoh %03:46
AWOSDevmeaning %%03:46
dive-oAWOSDev: what's really bad is when a package of really nice upgrade crap comes in the mail, and you're like "uh... when did I order this?" *check online banking* "oh... sh*"03:46
AWOSDevLOL again at dive-o :P03:47
dive-oI almost ended up with an extra two gigs of ram that way, until I got to work the next day and cancelled the sale on newegg03:47
AWOSDevOh man that's funny03:48
AWOSDevjust let it go and take the 2GB :)03:48
dive-oYou have no idea how tempted I was.03:48
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AWOSDevOh yes I most certainly do have an idea03:48
AWOSDevI've almost spent a couple thousand $$$$ on eBay before my sanity came back and said "you really don't need the really nice Prosignia DP380")03:49
dive-oBut I had to spend $100 on some other stuff... and I *am* trying to save up, as I'm getting married in July and will need at least $9k03:49
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AWOSDevWell congratulations on your engagement.03:49
AWOSDev;)03:49
dive-othanks :)03:49
AWOSDevI hope she's alright with you being a geek :)03:49
dive-ohell, she's a chemistry nerd, but a computer geek too. She runs NetBSD.03:50
AWOSDevOh my two geeks getting married.03:50
dive-oI'd get her into Kubuntu, but she doesn't have enough spare disk to backup all her stuff, so she can stick with that, it does what she needs03:50
AWOSDevhow many modems are going to attend your wedding?  :P03:50
dive-olol03:50
AWOSDevand how many computers are you going to have!?03:51
dive-oconsidering that a good five of the people I've invited are from the hosting company where I work03:51
XTorchedXfive?03:51
XTorchedXhow many are coming?03:51
dive-oAWOSDev: well, right now if I flicked a few more power switches I could have 4 nix servers in my room03:52
dive-owait, five03:52
AWOSDevOh come on four is it?03:52
AWOSDevfive?03:52
AWOSDevI have five running *all the time*03:52
AWOSDevand a total of 1203:52
dive-oAWOSDev: I took my 16 port switch to work because we were out of ports in the office and I wanted to get all my experimental boxes online03:52
dive-oso I'm limited to an 8 port gig-e switch at the moment03:52
AWOSDevI know03:53
XTorchedXi have one computer03:53
AWOSDevyou really don't know how hard it is to have a 5-port workgroup switch03:53
AWOSDevO_o03:53
dive-owe have OC48s at work, so it's handy to use that for test boxes03:53
AWOSDevXTorchedX - go buy more!  more!  MORE!!!!!!!03:53
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XTorchedXwhy?03:53
AWOSDevbecause it's what every good computer geek wants :)03:53
XTorchedXyeah but why?03:53
dive-oI could technically get about eight online right now, but my room is hot as hell as it is03:54
AWOSDevBecause they're fun!03:54
AWOSDevCollectible!03:54
XTorchedXi mean i could buy more03:54
XTorchedXi could buy a rack03:54
XTorchedXand fill it03:54
XTorchedXand put it in my bedroom03:54
AWOSDevHeck I have an 8088 and a 48603:54
XTorchedXand let them whirrrrrr me to sleep everyniht03:54
XTorchedXyeah see i get rid of old junk03:54
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AWOSDevIt's hard for me to go to bed during power outages - no hard disks spinning!  :)03:54
XTorchedXyeah, i get rid of it all!03:54
AWOSDevLOL03:54
AWOSDevI still have 2 586s03:55
AWOSDeva Pentium II03:55
AWOSDevand it goes up from there03:55
XTorchedXi have miscellaneous old parts03:55
AWOSDevplus a Canon StarWriter03:55
dive-oI've got, hrm. 80386DX 33mhz, Sun Ultra 1 167mhz, Sun Ultra 5 333mhz, Sun Netra t1 105 440mhz, Athlon XP 2.167ghz, Athlon 64 x2 2.42 (oc'd) ghz03:55
XTorchedXno complete systems03:55
AWOSDevso really I have 1303:55
XTorchedXi don't have the room to keep the cases around03:55
dive-othen a SPARCbook 3GX 110mhz and various pentium3/duron gear03:55
XTorchedXso i pull out the guts and go 'thatll be useful one day'03:55
AWOSDevdive-o, cool 38603:56
dive-obringing home a pentium 3 to become my router soon, because it gets a lot less hot than the ultra 103:56
AWOSDevthat's whats missing03:56
AWOSDevYeah I use a P3 (well really Celeron) for my router03:56
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dive-oAWOSDev: it's even got the little switch, if you turn it from the bunny to the turtle it's 25mhz!03:56
AWOSDev500MHz/256MB/Kubuntu03:56
AWOSDevdive-o wow!  the switch!03:56
AWOSDevOld technology FTW!03:56
AWOSDevI still have an 808803:57
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AWOSDevthrow the switch and it becomes 4.77MHz vs 7.16MHz03:57
AWOSDev:P03:57
dive-oAWOSDev: I refuse to call it the turbo switch. It's the bunny switch!03:57
AWOSDevMine just has numbers, no animals03:57
AWOSDevI have math not furry woodland creatures :P03:57
AWOSDevI'm missing a 286 and 38603:57
dive-omy duron and p3 have been parted out, so I'd have to toss spare drive controllers (I have plenty) in them03:58
AWOSDevthen I have literally every Intel processor made since 198203:58
dive-oI have a 750mhz p3 slot cpu on my desk that I've been meaning to send to a friend but keep forgetting about03:58
AWOSDevYeah I have a 1.2GHz I'm gonna give to a friend after I put Kubuntu on it03:58
AWOSDevfirst LInux machine :)03:58
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dive-oAWOSDev: we should prolly take this to #kubuntu-offtopic03:58
AWOSDevYeah you're prolly right03:59
XTorchedXwhat a coincidence! i'm using kubuntu!03:59
AWOSDevbut I need my crontab fixed!03:59
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dive-owhat do you need your crontab to do?03:59
AWOSDevwget03:59
dive-oI've got mine doing all sorts of crap, I should be able to figure it out03:59
AWOSDev*/5 *  *   *   *     wget http://some/web/site/ -O "/home/awilcox/some/folder/$(date "+\%d \%b \%y \%H \%M \%S").html"03:59
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dive-oAWOSDev: I'm not familiar with that exact syntax, but what's the problem you're having?04:00
AWOSDevcrontab:2:bad minute04:00
AWOSDevwhen I erase the wget just put "ls" it accepts it04:00
dive-oahh, I think I see the problem04:01
dive-ousing two double quotes04:01
dive-otwo sets, rather04:01
AWOSDevAW CRAP04:01
AWOSDevyes that's the problem04:01
AWOSDevsee I'm too close to it to release that :)04:01
AWOSDevNope04:02
dive-oI really need to set my fileserver up to just do a friggin dump of my dedicated server every so often04:02
AWOSDevstill has the problem04:02
AWOSDev2:bad minute04:02
dive-ohmm04:02
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XTorchedXhey04:02
XTorchedXi should get like 5 computers04:02
neddiWhi, does anyone knows of a good wireless network program so I can change from one network to another :)04:02
XTorchedXand set them all up as some sort of dedicated server for something04:02
dive-otest idea: put the wget command in a shell script, have crontab call that?04:02
XTorchedXthen get a fat pipe04:02
AWOSDevrieddiW, wlassistant04:02
XTorchedXand be a internet awesome tastic superstar04:02
XTorchedX!!!04:02
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AWOSDevOooh if I had the money for that XTorchedX04:03
shegman!xgl04:03
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems04:03
XTorchedXyou can't get fat pipes where i live04:03
XTorchedXi'd have to move to asia or europe04:03
XTorchedXprobably asia04:03
AWOSDevWhy where do you live?04:03
AWOSDevneddiW, wlassistant will do for you04:04
XTorchedXawwwwwstraayyylyaaaaaa04:04
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lupine_85!beryl04:04
AWOSDevdive-o good idea04:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about beryl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:04
neddiWAWOSDev, thanks ill give it a shot04:04
AWOSDevneddiW, np04:04
neddiW;)04:05
AWOSDevOh man04:05
AWOSDevdive-o I found the problem04:05
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AWOSDevthere was an extra \n04:05
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dive-oahh04:05
AWOSDevpart of it04:05
AWOSDevwasn't on the same line04:05
dive-ovixie cron gets picky about that04:05
soulrideranyone here cna program in java? :P04:05
AWOSDevsoulrider, Yes04:05
AWOSDevsoulrider, I have some novice experience04:06
AWOSDevwhy?04:06
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dive-othis should be fun. dumping filesystems on a remote server that has 3 known bad sectors, so that I can slap a new drive in it, reprovision it, and restore04:06
AWOSDevdive-o :P04:06
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AWOSDevdive-o three sectors isn't bad though04:07
dive-otrue04:07
AWOSDevbut you're right04:07
AWOSDevI had three sectors bad in 200004:07
AWOSDevon 9/14/2001 my HD died04:07
dive-obut since I work there, and I handle returning bad hardware, I know how bad the failure rate is04:07
soulriderAWOSDev: i got an error and i cant udnerstand why04:07
dive-oI recently sent back 32 drives, got another 40 to 60 that I need to send back04:07
AWOSDevsoulrider what is it?04:08
AWOSDevdive-o who do you use?04:08
soulriderits an error reading forma  file and using a string tokenizer04:08
AWOSDevdive-o meaning who do I need to stay away from :P04:08
dive-oHitachi and WD.04:08
soulridermind if i send you the java file ?04:08
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AWOSDevsoulrider, um, how?04:08
dive-oyou should already know to stay away from them04:08
dive-oI only buy seagates nowadays, but I only use SATA nowadays anyway04:08
AWOSDevWestern Digital, now them I trust04:08
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AWOSDevbut Hitachi no04:08
soulriderAWOSDev:  dunno :P04:08
dive-othere isn't a single non-seagate spinning in my room04:08
AWOSDevHitachi == big problem04:09
AWOSDevmy main server runs 2 WDs04:09
AWOSDevbut my workstation uses a Seagate04:09
dive-othey didn't give the deskstar line the nickname deathstar for no reason04:09
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dive-othough we had some fun times with out of warranty deathstars and a power drill with a 1/2 inch bit04:09
AWOSDevdive-o, I have a laptop with a Travelstar04:09
AWOSDevis this bad?04:09
dive-othe travelstars are fine04:09
AWOSDevOh okay04:10
dive-othe deskstars are the ones you want to stay away from04:10
AWOSDevOkay04:10
dive-ohowever, be careful with the laptop04:10
dive-othe travelstars have glass platters04:10
AWOSDevNo04:10
AWOSDevyou're just exaggurating[sp]  right?04:10
dive-onope04:10
AWOSDevNO!?04:10
AWOSDevI've dropped that one twice04:10
AWOSDevno problems as of yet04:10
dive-omany laptop drives have glass platters, that's just the one i can remember04:10
XVampireXCan I somehow make the apt-get install during the install (Not download) so it would take less CPU/Mem?04:10
dive-oit takes a lot to break it, but it doesn't just crash, it shatters :P04:11
AWOSDevYeah I get it04:11
AWOSDevdive-o I have a question04:11
AWOSDevmaybe you may not know04:11
dive-ogo for it04:11
AWOSDevI had a Travelstar from the factory04:11
AWOSDevinstalled Windows Server on it04:11
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AWOSDevleft it running 13 days (after already using it turning it on/off every day) straight04:12
AWOSDevit immediately died04:12
flaccid!quake04:12
ubotuQuake runs natively under linux see http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/ for details04:12
AWOSDevhad to rush and xcopy what I could to another computer04:12
flaccid!quake204:12
dive-osounds like either a bad controller board or a bad spindle04:12
ubotuquake2: improved version of id Software's Quake II engine. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.3-1.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1240 kB, installed size 3144 kB04:12
flaccidhmm ne1 know how to get quake2 to go04:12
AWOSDevBut I left it running for 13 days straight at 150 degrees04:12
AWOSDevthat wouldn't cause it04:12
AWOSDev?04:12
dive-ono04:12
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AWOSDevthey replaced the drive and it's been fine since04:13
dive-omy experience (I work in a datacenter with 4400+ servers, many of which have deskstars) is that when powered down one too many times they'll just up and die04:13
AWOSDevIt wasn't powered down, that's what I'm saying04:14
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Dr_willis!info quake204:14
ubotuquake2: improved version of id Software's Quake II engine. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.3-1.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1240 kB, installed size 3144 kB04:14
dive-owe're discount dedicated hosting, which is why we use inexpensive drives (I was going to say cheap, but the WDs are usually fine, and fail a lot less)04:14
AWOSDevwho are you?04:14
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dive-oserverbeach04:15
AWOSDevOkay cool.04:15
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Admiral_Chicagoi just tried to log in but X wouldn't start because of a "no screens" rttot04:15
Admiral_Chicagoerror04:15
dive-othe only thing that really kills our drives is age. since they're not meant for hardcore server use, running them 24/7/365 for several years wears them out pretty well04:15
AWOSDevLOL I do that too (rttot = error)04:15
AWOSDevdive-o another thing04:15
AWOSDevever use Quantum?04:16
dive-ooh god04:16
dive-oshut up now04:16
dive-odo not speak to me of quantum04:16
dive-o:P04:16
AWOSDevWhy?04:16
AWOSDevI have a Bigfoot from 199804:16
AWOSDevrun 24/7/365 for a year and a half no problems04:16
dive-olol, I had a bigfoot (2.5GB) from 1996 or so04:16
AWOSDevnow I use her for a workstation vs server04:16
dive-oit was just horribly slow04:16
AWOSDevThis is a 6GB04:16
flaccidany linux/ubuntu gamers here?04:16
AWOSDevUm yeah it is kinda slow04:16
Admiral_Chicagoi have XGL so i dont want to do a sudo dpkg-recnfigure xserver-xorg04:16
dive-odidn't die until I decided to hit it with a hammer, but the speed pissed me off04:17
AWOSDevflaccid: The only game I run is TORCS.04:17
AWOSDevdive-o well this one ran at about room temperature04:17
AWOSDevon for a year and a half04:17
AWOSDevpopped the case after shutdown04:17
dive-othat's not bad at all04:17
AWOSDevfelt maybe a little hot04:17
AWOSDevThat was during Hurricane Wilma04:17
dive-oI had a quantum SCSI drive last for quite a while04:17
dive-oit only died when we had a power surge which also fried EVERYTHING in my alpha :-(04:18
flaccidAWOSDev: what is TORCS?04:18
dive-oI loved that alpha04:18
Admiral_Chicagocan anyone help?04:18
AWOSDevYes you remember that 3 bad sector drive from 200004:18
AWOSDevflaccid, The Open Racing Car Simulator04:18
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flaccidAWOSDev: is that free?04:18
AWOSDevYESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!04:18
flaccidlol04:19
AWOSDevPORTSNAP IS DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!04:19
dive-obrb04:19
flaccidhow to install ?04:19
AWOSDevflaccid, yes it is04:19
AWOSDevdive-o okay04:19
Dr_willis!info torcs04:19
ubotutorcs: 3D racing cars simulator game using OpenGL. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4-1ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 4368 kB, installed size 20900 kB04:19
AWOSDevflaccid, sudo apt-get install torcs04:19
flaccidsweet as04:19
AWOSDevalso04:19
AWOSDev!info torcs-cars04:19
ubotuPackage torcs-cars does not exist in any distro I know04:19
AWOSDevhmm04:19
flaccidi have a big question04:19
AWOSDevYeah?04:19
AWOSDevGo ahead flaccid04:20
flaccidlooking for a 1st person shooter like quake etc. that is free on linux..04:20
flacciddoes it exist04:20
AWOSDevHmm04:20
flaccidit would be mad if it did..04:20
AWOSDevall I can say is Synaptic and look under games04:20
AWOSDevI don't play games from that genre04:20
flaccidok04:20
flaccidwhen people say synaptic, they generally referring to apt-get ?04:20
AWOSDevNo, the synaptic package manager04:21
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Dr_willissynaptic is just a front end to apt-get like adept is04:21
Dr_willisso use what you like.04:21
AWOSDevbut you can use apt-cache search04:21
flaccidinteresting04:21
AWOSDevIn fact04:21
AWOSDevflaccid04:21
flaccidi usually search in konq with apt:/04:21
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AWOSDevrun 'apt-cache search shooter'04:21
AWOSDevfrom the command line04:21
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AWOSDevI see a few04:21
dive-oback04:21
AWOSDevdive-o good04:22
flaccidsweet04:22
AWOSDevflaccid, yw04:22
Admiral_Chicagoi just tried to log in but X wouldn't start because of a "no screens" error04:22
dive-oif there's one thing I'll miss about my current shift rotation, it's that there's no manager on site on weekends and I can go to work and get an extra 3 hours of sleep on the futon04:22
AWOSDevAdmiral_Chicago, try xf86config04:22
dive-oassuming the customers don't break stuff and wake me up with tickets04:22
AWOSDevdive-o funny04:22
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AWOSDevAdmiral_Chicago I meant X -configure sorry04:23
gnomefreakAWOSDev: debian/debian based distros dont use Xf86 anymore04:23
dive-oI was out at a nightclub friday night until 1, got 3 hours of sleep, got to work at 6:30, told night shift to go home, and took a nap. soon as I got to sleep, pager starts going off loud enough to wake the dead (that's the whole idea) so I had to get un-lazy and work04:23
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AWOSDevdive-o Yep that's how it is when you live life "on-call" :)04:24
alan__?04:24
dive-otomorrow I have to do inventory, so I can't slack off04:24
alan__??????????????04:24
flaccid!prboom04:24
ubotuprboom: clone of the legendary first person shooter Doom. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:2.2.6-3 (dapper), package size 364 kB, installed size 880 kB04:24
alan__Alguien habla espaol???04:24
AWOSDev!es04:24
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:24
flaccidlooks alright...04:24
BonBonTheJonhow do I merge logs for kopete04:24
AWOSDevflaccid, again yw04:24
dive-oAWOSDev: our office is quite laid back, which is great, since I can sit there playing counter-strike with my boss and only have to quit when tickets come in04:24
AWOSDev:)04:24
alan__En ubuntu, kubuntu y lo dems no sale lo que necesito :S04:25
alan__La cosa es que NO aparecen las aplicaciones en el men K automticamente desde hace un tiempo.04:25
AWOSDevRough translation of what alan__ is saying:04:25
AWOSDevIn ubuntu, kubuntu and the others do not leave what I need04:25
flaccidany possible way to speed limit with a package manager downloading packages?04:26
AWOSDevThe thing is that they have not automatically been appearing the applications in menu K for a time.04:26
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AWOSDevalan__04:26
AWOSDevalan__ execute 'kbuildsycoca'04:26
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alan__Don't work: kbuildsycoca04:27
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AWOSDevalan__ what is the error?04:27
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AWOSDevflaccid, why would you *want* to speed limit :P04:28
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alan__Well, new software is not in the Menu K04:28
alan__My english is so bad, i know.04:28
AWOSDevWhat new software are you trying to use?04:28
flaccidAWOSDev: coz i'm sharing crap 256/128 connection04:29
AWOSDevActually, alan__, you're English is decent04:29
alan__For now...04:29
AWOSDev***your English not you're :P04:29
alan__I'm trying with games...04:29
AWOSDevflaccid, if you have a 256/128 then that's the limit.  I don't understand what you mean?04:29
AWOSDevalan__ Did you install them with apt-get?04:29
alan__Yeah.04:30
AWOSDevSo when you run kbuildsycoca there is no error but the applications are still not in the K Menu?04:30
flaccidAWOSDev: try sharing that with 4 other people. if 1 direct downloads, the others suffer and pings go to ~4secs04:30
BonBonTheJonanyone know how to merge logs for kopete04:30
AWOSDevflaccid, Oh oh oh oh okay04:30
AWOSDevget a better Internet connection then :P04:30
flaccid:)04:30
alan__i need go! sorry,...04:30
AWOSDevMy cable at ~500 can share six computers04:31
AWOSDevalan__ goodbye!04:31
flaccidi would if i could04:31
Dr_willisheh heh04:31
Dr_willisso let them lag!04:31
AWOSDevflaccid my 500 can do five computers all downloading at once without much of a performance hit04:31
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Dr_willistorrents seem to lag me to death04:31
flaccidi'm letting them lag atm!04:31
flaccidyes but thats nearly double the speed i have...04:32
flaccidand you said the word cable. i'm not on cable.04:32
AWOSDevDSL huh?04:32
flaccidyeah04:32
AWOSDevwhich is short for Darn SLow :)04:33
flaccidbigpond rip off04:33
flaccid$AU60 p/month04:33
flaccidadsl2+ is faster than cable in australia04:33
AWOSDevThat's 45.33 USD04:33
AWOSDevthat's what I'm getting cable for04:33
flaccidyes bigpond is a rip off. the account is not in my name04:34
morghanphoenix $80 a month for 7 meg dsl and I'm getting about 1.5 from it04:34
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flaccidwell i'm in hobart and there is no cable and only 1 dsl2 exchange04:34
AWOSDevAnd me here paying ~$45/month for 500 that I'm getting 600 out of :P04:35
flaccidIT&T in Aust. is shite04:35
AWOSDevis 256 the fastest available?04:35
flaccidno04:35
flacciddsl2 and cable is available04:35
AWOSDevThen trust me get the 51204:35
AWOSDevthe 512 will do04:35
flacciddsl2 dslams only on a couple dozen exchanges and cable only very limited04:35
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morghanphoenixI'm in downtown, great service for DSL, but I'm in an old building so my copper can't keep up.04:36
flacciderrr, my point is that i can't get rid of the account...04:36
AWOSDevDon't get rid of it, upgrade it! :)04:36
flaccidi've been on cable, 1.5mbps dsl, adsl2 24mbps, isdsn 128 etc.04:36
AWOSDevThat's my view on computers too :)04:36
flaccidAWOSDev: can't upgrade coz its contract, unless you upgrade with bigpond which means you would be getting ripped off hectic04:36
morghanphoenixI built my computer from parts people threw out04:37
AWOSDevI have three whole computers that people threw out :)04:37
AWOSDevin fact two of them with monitors04:37
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AWOSDevtwo with keyboards and mice (one optical)04:37
AWOSDevand one with powered speakers!04:37
flaccidthis is 256/128 with only 10GB a month, then you get shaped further to 64kbps till end of month. isn't it wrong to shape an already shaped connection and also have a d/l limit??04:37
sureshcan somone help me04:38
flaccidand they block port 25...04:38
sureshi seem to have a problem updating?04:38
AWOSDevOH MAN!04:38
morghanphoenixI got a spare monitor from work that is amazing, too bad I'm using a 7 year old video card04:38
AWOSDevI dropped my keyboard on the floor and the J keytop fell off!04:38
Linux_Galoremorghanphoenix: I replaced my copper cable in the building with Cat504:38
Linux_Galoremorghanphoenix: cable is very cheap04:38
Linux_Galoremorghanphoenix: you just need to buy a staple gun04:38
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alan__I'm back.04:39
AWOSDevsuresh - updating what?04:39
AWOSDevalan__ Welcome back!04:39
alan__:-)04:39
AWOSDevalan__ now does kbuildsycoca come up errors?04:39
alan__kbuildsycoca don't do anyting.04:40
alan__I did execute it.04:40
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AWOSDevIt should say something like "kbuildsycoca running..."04:41
AWOSDevdid it say that?04:41
alan__kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!04:42
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sureshupdating packages...04:42
sureshwell i am still new to all this...04:42
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alan__what i need do?04:42
AWOSDevalan__ Okay try 'sudo kbuildsycoca'04:42
AWOSDevsuresh what package?04:43
alan__ok04:43
morghanphoenixWoo Hoo! Ktorrent is down to seven hours in a nine day download.04:43
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AWOSDevmorghanphoenix Dang that's a long time04:43
AWOSDevdial-up?04:43
alan__kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!04:43
alan__DCOP: unregister 'anonymous-6284'04:43
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Dr_willisthen you will find the download is currupted. :(04:43
morghanphoenixDSL, I think the seeds might be dial up though.04:43
Linux_Galoreyeah hate seeders who use dial up04:44
sureshsudo apt-get update gives me an error...04:44
morghanphoenix3.47GB04:44
morghanphoenixThe sad part is I'm downloading my CDs04:44
sureshit says use dpkg to configure....04:44
morghanphoenixMine are so scratched I can't get them to read04:44
AWOSDevmorghanphoenix I had to do that too :P04:45
sureshso....need some advice...on how to go about...04:45
Dr_willisI had to download my 8-track tapes!04:45
Dr_willis:P04:45
AWOSDevsuresh: What package are you trying to update?!04:45
kontikiHi - How do enable file sharing in Kubuntu?  When I go to KMenu>SystemSettings>Internet&Network>Sharing>FileSharing, it requests admin mode, I give it admin, then the options come up 'greyed out" - readable, but not accessible. - how do I get that access?04:45
morghanphoenixdoes adept have a bug that would cause it to think it's still logged in?04:45
sureshwell you know how adept-updater automatically asks you if you want to update...old files...04:46
Dr_willis!samba04:46
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT04:46
AWOSDevsuresh yeah04:46
Linux_Galoremorghanphoenix: I always make a gold copy of my CD's/DVD's, you do know that most $$$ cd's are done on formats that the record/movie companies know will deteriorate after a few years04:46
Dr_williskontiki,  i alwqys install the samba package first04:46
sureshthis time it didn't half way through preparing....it frooze...04:46
sureshit took a very long time ...now the adept updater does not run...04:47
kontikiDr_willis: thankis04:47
AWOSDevagain, suresh, What package are you trying to update?04:47
Dr_williskontiki,  mine is all greyed out on this new install alsol04:47
AWOSDevsudo apt-get update <What's this name?>04:47
morghanphoenixSomething went bonkers when adept updater was running on mine too.04:47
morghanphoenixIt quit halfway through and now keeps telling me it's allready logged in so I can't use it.04:48
suresh linux-restricted-modules-common Non-free Linux 2.6.15 modules helper script04:48
suresh linux-386            Complete Linux kernel on 386.04:48
suresh linux-image-386      Linux kernel image on 386.04:48
suresh linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386 Non-free Linux 2.6.15 modules on 38604:48
suresh linux-restricted-modules-386 Restricted Linux modules on 386.04:48
sureshfollowing packages are only half configures.04:48
sureshconfigured...sorry.04:48
sureshit doesn't work...it tried it...04:49
AWOSDevYou could just type in "sudo apt-get upgrade linux-386"04:49
AWOSDevThat will upgrade *everything*04:49
AWOSDev166 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 10 not upgraded04:50
sureshok04:50
AWOSDev(Those 10 are new installs)04:50
sureshi'll try....04:50
AWOSDev(new kde-libs and kdevelop)04:50
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AWOSDevIt should say something like:04:50
AWOSDev(sorry)04:50
AWOSDevThe following packages have been kept back:04:50
AWOSDev  amarok amarok-xine kontact kopete krita krita-data ksysguard ksysguardd linux-image-38604:50
AWOSDev  linux-restricted-modules-38604:50
sureshE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.04:51
sureshcannot.04:51
AWOSDevWell then?04:51
AWOSDevtype sudo dpkg --configure -a04:51
AWOSDevUm, did they ever fix the Xorg bug?04:52
AWOSDevCan I update everything?04:52
sureshokie something is happening.04:52
AWOSDevI read somewhere that there was some Xorg bug and you should let it upgrade that.04:52
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AWOSDevSo did they ever fix that?04:52
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sureshanother thing....how to you setup a superuser account? i was under the impression i was the superuser.04:53
AWOSDevYou are04:53
AWOSDevwhen you type sudo04:53
AWOSDevSuper User DO04:53
AWOSDevso you're DOing something as the Super User04:53
unix_infidel!root04:53
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.04:53
AWOSDevMaking a real superuser account is kind of messy on Kubuntu04:54
AWOSDevThat's the one thing I miss of SuSE (though everything else sucked)04:54
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AWOSDevYou know since the J key fell of the keyboard, should I rip the rest of them off and clean it?04:57
AWOSDev*fell off04:57
Dr_willisstick the whole thing in the dishwasher04:58
AWOSDevAre you kidding?04:58
morghanphoenixI'm thinking about just installing debian.04:58
Dr_willis:)04:58
Dr_willisi took my keyboard apart the other day and washed all thekeys in the sink04:58
Dr_willishad a whole tub of keys..  then had to fighre out where they all went04:58
Dr_willis:P04:58
altairyup just the keys04:58
AWOSDevYeah see that's what I want to do04:58
AWOSDevLOL where they go04:59
Dr_willisthis keyboard was filthy04:59
AWOSDevI've memorized the keyboard layout so I should know where they go :)04:59
AWOSDevOh yes this one is too04:59
AWOSDevsecond-hand keyboard04:59
morghanphoenixI think there's more cigarette ash in my keyboard then there is circuits.04:59
AWOSDevfrom 199404:59
AWOSDevEW :X04:59
Dr_willisyea,, so which is first.. insert or home. :P04:59
Dr_willisheh heh04:59
Dr_willissoda pop04:59
Kr4t05morghanphoenix: Don't subject your computer to such torture.04:59
AWOSDevInsert04:59
AWOSDevInsert Home Page Up05:00
AWOSDevDelete End Page Down05:00
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AWOSDevYes I did that without looking :P05:00
Kr4t05Do you realize what cigarette smoke does to the inside of your computer?05:00
Dr_willisi got some kdyboards that got them differently05:00
Dr_willisDo you realize what cigarette smoke does to the inside of you.05:00
Dr_willis:)05:00
Admiral_Chicagofixed it05:00
Kr4t05I have no remorse for the person who willing endangers themselves, as long as they do not endanger those unwilling, human or otherwise.05:00
AWOSDevI'm with Kr4t05 on this one, morghanphoenix05:00
sureshok i am the superuser....05:00
morghanphoenixWell, it's not like the whole thing isn't junk parts to begin with, or I'm not able to fix the whole thing again if it goes.05:01
AWOSDevUm, suresh?05:01
AWOSDevdon't scream it out loud in IRC05:01
AWOSDevusing IRC as root is dumb05:01
sureshso sometimes when i run dselect it say's you don't have SU privileges?05:01
morghanphoenixI build computers, it's software that makes me feel stupid.05:01
sureshto process...05:02
Admiral_Chicago#kubuntu-offtopic...05:02
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sureshthanks AWOSDev now the update it fine.05:04
AWOSDevsuresh, no problem!05:04
sureshoh one more thing05:04
sureshwait...05:04
unix_infidelmorghanphoenix: because they've made computers to where any stupid person can build them :)05:04
AWOSDevOkay...question05:05
unix_infidelwhy do you think everyone and their grandmother has A+ certs05:05
AWOSDevis it true that if you unplug and plug a keyboard while the computer is running does it short-circuit the motherboard?05:05
AWOSDevI read that on USENET in 1996 and was wondering if it was really true05:06
morghanphoenixAnother process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.05:06
NthDegreeOoh brb05:06
AWOSDevI was still fairly new to the internals of computers then so I took it as true05:06
morghanphoenixthat's what I get from adept05:06
sureshflash plugin non free? does that mean you have to pay?05:06
Admiral_ChicagoAWOSDev, not really05:07
altairnot true05:07
AWOSDevsuresh, no05:07
Admiral_Chicagothe changes of that happening are really slim05:07
AWOSDevsuresh, that means it's not open-source05:07
altairsure05:07
morghanphoenixyou just have to check the license05:07
AWOSDevAdmiral_Chicago, altair, you guys talking to me or suresh there?05:07
AWOSDevoh nvm05:08
AWOSDevduh05:08
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sureshokie...hey thanks a million, see you around.05:08
AWOSDev[03:06]  <Admiral_Chicago> AWOSDev, not really05:08
altairi was replaying to you AWOSDev05:08
AWOSDevokay05:08
AWOSDevsuresh, no problem!05:08
AWOSDevsuresh, bye!05:08
AWOSDevaltair, okay05:08
AWOSDevbecause I want to go clean my keyboard05:08
AWOSDev(server keyboard not this IRC keyboard)05:08
altairok05:09
morghanphoenixany help as to why adept won't start?05:09
morghanphoenixIt's lying to me05:09
AWOSDevI can see it now.05:09
AWOSDev"If you don't press F2 within ten seconds the world will blow up!"05:10
AWOSDev"Hold on, I'm cleaning my keyboard!"05:10
AWOSDev:P05:10
AWOSDevmorghanphoenix:05:10
altairgo ahead, take the risk05:10
AWOSDevkillall apt-get05:10
AWOSDevkillall aptitude05:10
AWOSDevkillall adept05:10
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morghanphoenixno process killed on all of them and synaptic as well05:12
AWOSDevhmm05:12
morghanphoenixdo I need to sudo them?05:13
morghanphoenixIt was the auto update thingy that went nuts05:13
morghanphoenixtried to update my flash player and quake2, then bugged out, got the amarok update done just fine though.05:14
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altairbugged out?05:15
altairany message?05:15
morghanphoenixjust flashed and died mid update, too quick to see what the terminal readout said05:15
altairmaybe a repository problem?05:16
Admiral_Chicagomorghanphoenix, check systemlog05:16
Admiral_Chicagoin the K menu05:16
morghanphoenixopening it now05:17
morghanphoenixOkay, what should I be looking for? Adept?05:17
morghanphoenixhmm05:18
morghanphoenixdoes it reset at restart?05:18
altairmine seems like so05:18
Kr4t05Man, now I remember why I hate Windows so much.05:19
morghanphoenixthen whatever it was is gone from the system log, it crashed.05:19
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altairyup05:20
shadowravenwhat is the command to move a program from one DIR to another DIR **** mv /home/destopwhateverfile  /home desktopwhateverfile2 **?05:20
altairrn05:21
Admiral_Chicagocan some try do duplicate this05:21
Admiral_Chicagohttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdeaddons/+bug/6101405:21
Admiral_Chicagomorghanphoenix, hmm there may be an adept log05:21
Admiral_Chicagomorghanphoenix, sec05:21
shadowravenin command line05:22
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Admiral_Chicagomorghanphoenix, try doing a sudo apt-get install <package>05:23
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Dr_willishmm05:25
morghanphoenixdpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem05:25
Dr_williswhat was that bug again>?05:25
Admiral_Chicagomorghanphoenix, type it in05:25
Dr_willisi see the wallpaper in 3 out of the for desktop mini-pager windows05:25
Admiral_ChicagoDr_willis, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdeaddons/+bug/6101405:26
Admiral_Chicagotry to duplicate that, i think that's what you have05:26
shadowravenin command linecd05:26
morghanphoenixwhoah, I allready did that, but it's working this time05:26
morghanphoenixAt least I think it is05:26
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Admiral_Chicagomorghanphoenix, good05:26
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Dr_williswoo hoo. found a setting whree the mousewheel on the desktop changes desktops. :P05:26
Dr_willisproving once again that KDE rules.. gnome drools.05:27
Dr_willis:P05:27
morghanphoenixThink maybe the x server reset helped?05:27
morghanphoenixI like gnome seccond best05:27
morghanphoenixwindows is my favorite05:27
morghanphoenixlol05:28
Admiral_ChicagoDr_willis, i love that move05:28
Admiral_Chicagomorghanphoenix, gasp05:28
morghanphoenixjust kidding, ducks the inevitable thrown mice05:28
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morghanphoenixdp05:29
morghanphoenixkg: error processing flashplugin-nonfree (--configure):05:29
morghanphoenix subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 105:29
morghanphoenixSetting up quake2 (0.3-1.1ubuntu1) ...05:29
morghanphoenixeek05:29
DenstarkHi =) I've installed apache and it works, but only from the local server. Anyone else trying to access it (This is over a lan) is denied. Any ideas?05:29
morghanphoenixI keep getting the post-installation script returned error05:30
Dr_willisAdmiral_Chicago,  as far as i can tell the showin gof the wallpaper in the pager is totally borked...05:30
Dr_willisjust changeing desktops.. messes mine up05:30
Admiral_ChicagoDr_willis, so can you duplicate the bug?05:30
BluDog_AnchoriteDenstark: firewall ? host.deny list ?05:31
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Dr_willisyep it did the same.. andthen some.05:31
Admiral_Chicagoi know that, it looks awful05:31
Admiral_Chicagookay thanks05:31
AWOSDevmorghanphoenix, df -h05:31
DenstarkBluDog_Anchorite: No firewall, its on a lan... where is the host.deny list?05:31
AWOSDevDenstark, /etc/05:31
BluDog_Anchoritecheck /etc05:31
BluDog_Anchoriteor in the apache .conf05:31
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DenstarkThank you let me take a look05:32
morghanphoenixwhat am I looking for in the df -h readout?05:32
AWOSDevdisk space free05:32
AWOSDevI'm thinking that's your problem05:32
AWOSDevlast time I got that message I had 0 bytes free :P05:32
morghanphoenixat least 125 megs free in each space.05:32
AWOSDevAnd what package are you trying to install?05:33
morghanphoenixooh, nice, it even shows my usb drive05:33
morghanphoenixflash player05:33
morghanphoenixthe auto update05:33
AWOSDevAnd you have at least 200MB on the /usr?05:33
DenstarkThere is nothing in either hosts.deny or hosts.allow05:34
DenstarkI can ssh into the machine, if that counts for anything05:34
morghanphoenixdoesn't show usr05:34
DenstarkI've checked apache2.conf and wasn't able to find anything05:34
AWOSDevokay what about just /?05:34
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morghanphoenixbut the device /usr is on still has 7.8 gigs05:34
AWOSDevOkay, that isn't your problem :P05:34
Dr_willisAdmiral_Chicago,  i get the exact issue now..05:34
Dr_willisi set up dofferent wallpapers - - when using the same wallpaper for each desktop - the pager also acts funny05:35
morghanphoenixupdates have been buggy from install05:36
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morghanphoenixI had to do the manual update for the screensaver fix.05:36
Admiral_ChicagoDr_willis, dapper?05:37
Dr_willisyea  - cleaninstall of dapper05:37
Dr_willisjust installed today05:37
Dr_willisaptitude had a hissy fit and demanded i unisntall kubuntu-desktop a while ago. :P05:38
Dr_willisstill not sure what happened there. heh heh05:38
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Admiral_Chicagokubuntu dapper?05:38
Admiral_Chicagoerr nevermind05:38
Admiral_Chicagoi'm stupid05:38
Admiral_Chicagoits a KDE bug...05:38
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morghanphoenixwhat's the current version of KDE?05:39
Admiral_Chicago3.5.405:39
morghanphoenixShould it auto update?05:39
morghanphoenixI'm missing a number there.05:39
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Dr_willisi got a vmware session of the newer kde. :) on a suse install.. shall i see if it does it there?>05:39
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Dr_willis3.5.4 is the latest  i think. but its not in dapper yet.05:40
Dr_willisor am i missing somthing05:40
HawkwindYes it is05:41
DFMsorry for a late response but I just got back and read through all the post05:41
Hawkwind3.5.4 has been in Dapper for a while05:41
Dr_willishmmm05:41
DFMyou can safely put a keyboard in the dishwasher05:41
Dr_willisi just update/upgraded... and it dident put it in.05:41
DFMjust remember to let it dry for at least 3 days before plugging back in05:41
DFMwork's fine last long time05:41
Hawkwinddeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/ dapper main05:41
AWOSDevDFM are you serious about 3 days?!05:42
morghanphoenixI did the update and got 3.5.305:42
DFMyes05:42
HawkwindPlus they are in kde-latest as well05:42
DFMwhole keyboard05:42
Dr_willisHawkwind,  yea - i did that on another machine. :)05:42
morghanphoenixWoo Hoo!05:42
AWOSDevOkay DFM well nvm thanks anyway05:42
morghanphoenixAdept's working again05:42
DFMjust use very little detergent05:42
morghanphoenixThanks05:42
AWOSDevDFM I just got an alcohol swab and did a job on it :)05:42
DFMno need to disassemble05:42
AWOSDevScrubbed really hard05:42
DFMthat works05:42
Admiral_ChicagoDr_willis, what version of KDE?05:43
AWOSDevGot it all nice and new and shiny again!  :)05:43
AWOSDev12 years of gunk gone!  Yay!05:43
DFMI tried it on a keyboard that I could afford to loose if it killed05:43
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AWOSDevBut that was just the main keys, I need a new alcohol swab to do the extended ones :P05:43
Admiral_ChicagoDr_willis, I'm assuming KDE 3.5.205:44
morghanphoenixanybody know a good website that lists dapper sources05:45
AWOSDevmorghanphoenix:05:45
Admiral_Chicagomorghanphoenix, pacakges.ubuntu.com05:45
AWOSDev!source-o-matic05:45
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:45
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Admiral_Chicagoi think is the site05:45
Dr_willisAdmiral_Chicago,  it does  identical thing on the Suse 10.x kde 3.5.4 vmware install i have set up also.05:46
unix_infidelis cipherfunk down again?05:46
Admiral_Chicagooh you want to create a sources.list05:46
unix_infidelanyone know of another place to get mplayer?05:46
Dr_willisvmware is so fun05:46
Admiral_ChicagoDr_willis, but on your dapper system05:46
AWOSDevDr_Willis, yeah but expensive :X05:46
Dr_willisdapper does it as well05:46
unix_infidelanyone?05:46
Dr_willisAWOSDev,  it is? it was a free download.05:46
AWOSDevDr_Willis I almost bought it but at the time (a year ago) VMware Workstation 5 was $12905:47
morghanphoenixYup, I'm using the automatix source list.05:47
Admiral_ChicagoDr_willis, so waht version of KDE on dapper.05:47
unix_infidel!mplayer05:47
ubotumplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile05:47
Dr_willisfree as in beer. :)  - not free as in source05:47
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.05:47
Dr_willisAdmiral_Chicago,  the .2 one05:47
Admiral_Chicagookaf05:47
Dr_willisso it does seem to be a kde issue05:47
Dr_willisonly other test i could do would be a live cd/disrto with kde. :P but thats gettting over kill.05:48
AWOSDevEither Morphix or Kubuntu would be good for Live CD05:49
AWOSDev:)05:49
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unix_infidel!codecs05:49
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:49
Admiral_ChicagoDr_willis, i did the edit to the LP page05:49
Admiral_Chicagothanks a lot for the help05:49
Schalkenhow come the bottom of the volume control thing is cut off at the bottom of the screen?05:50
AWOSDeveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddcccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccdddddddddd\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\05:50
AWOSDevOh man sorry05:50
Dr_williscat on the keyborad again..05:50
AWOSDevI was cleaning my IRC keyboard :P05:50
Dr_willisor did ya bang ya head on it. :P05:50
Dr_willislol05:51
Admiral_ChicagoSchalken, change the monitor adjust05:51
AWOSDevLOL05:51
Admiral_Chicagoon the monitor05:51
AWOSDevA couple of keys were really dirty (e, d, c, and the \)05:51
AWOSDevand return :P05:51
morghanphoenixnow for the source-o-matic do I need to get the keys or does that happen automatically?05:51
SchalkenAdmiral_Chicago: monitor is adjusted. its the same in the osdir screenies: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=662&slide=405:51
unix_infidelwhere do i get libdvdcss?05:52
AWOSDevmorghanphoenix, you have to get the keys *IF* you want them05:52
AWOSDevpersonally I just make due without em05:52
morghanphoenixso you don't need the keys to use the sources?05:52
unix_infidelanyone know of a repo that has the library?05:52
AWOSDevmorghanphoenix, no you don't *need* the keys05:53
unix_infidelanyone?05:53
AWOSDevit's just for security concerns to make sure you don't get a *yeah right* virus05:53
AWOSDevunix_infidel what library?05:53
Schalken!restrictedformats05:53
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:53
unix_infidellibdvdcss05:53
Schalkenunix_infidel: that page says where to get it ;)05:53
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unix_infidelusing that script in the wiki help docs?05:55
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morghanphoenixNow it's /etc/apt/sources.list where this goes right?05:56
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flaccid!ati05:57
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:57
flaccidhow to see what display driver is being used?05:57
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AWOSDevYay!  My keyboard worked!05:58
AWOSDev:)05:58
AWOSDevmorghanphoenix yes05:58
Dr_willisHmm.. its scary when a new disrto shows up on disrtowatch andyou cant even download it due to their server bandwith being exceced...05:58
Dr_willisthats like the reason torrents are so good. :P05:58
AWOSDevDr_willis what distro?05:59
AWOSDev:P05:59
AWOSDevOr wait05:59
AWOSDevwhat's a disrto?05:59
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Dr_willisthers a XP-Linux out from some russian site. :P its servers are down06:00
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Dr_willisMayaLinux - servers are down06:00
morghanphoenixxlib connection refused by server, kdeinit can't connect to x server, communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.06:00
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morghanphoenixwhat's is this?06:00
Dr_willisDreamLinux - tries badly to look like OS-X :P06:00
AWOSDevmorghanphoenix where do you see this?06:01
morghanphoenixin konsole whenever I launch something from command line.06:01
AWOSDevare you using the same UID that you used to start X?06:01
morghanphoenixis that the login?06:02
AWOSDev*****question:06:02
Linux_GaloreDr_willis: and XP Linux tried to look like hmm, OS2 warp !!06:02
AWOSDevI'm building phpBB06:02
Linux_Galoreheh heh06:02
AWOSDevit says "build options: WWWDOCROOT: the DocumentRoot of your server"06:02
Dr_willisI want a GeosLinux!06:02
flaccidphpbb, yuck06:02
flaccidsmf rools06:02
morghanphoenixI'm using sudo to launch things as root.06:02
AWOSDevso do I "set WWWDOCROOT=/whatever"06:02
flaccidlike c64 geos?06:02
AWOSDevDr_willis Oh yeah that would *ROCK*06:03
AWOSDevDr_willis I even tried to install my old GEOS on my 586 the other day06:03
AWOSDevcouldn't get the display driver to work :(06:03
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AWOSDevSo how do I set a "make option"06:03
AWOSDev?06:03
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Admiral_ChicagoAWOSDev, apt-get install build-essential06:04
AWOSDevThis is on my FreeBSD machine06:04
Admiral_Chicagoto compile from source06:04
tony_Hello , I Need a simple direction and help on daul booting with WIndows..06:04
AWOSDev:P06:04
Admiral_Chicagooh06:04
AWOSDevI just want to know how to set a make option06:04
tony_I am going to install window on second partition .. but after while i will remove it06:04
Admiral_ChicagoAWOSDev, ./configure       make06:04
AWOSDevtony_ Don't; get Qemu06:04
Admiral_Chicagomake install06:04
flaccidmake --help?06:05
AWOSDev!qemu06:05
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo06:05
Dr_willisVmware seems to be much faster then qemu for me.06:05
tony_so i made a back up of my grup folder and after removing partition i will restore the back up06:05
AWOSDev./configure: Command not found.06:05
AWOSDevI'm trying to make a port.06:05
tony_would this help to bring my grub back to what it is now ? ( single boot )06:05
AWOSDevfrom the /usr/ports directory06:05
flaccidhehe this isn't a bsd help chan :p06:05
flaccidtony_: no06:06
AWOSDevtony_, trust me, Qemu or VMware would be so much better06:06
flaccidtony_: perhaps editing grub.conf?06:06
DaveQBumm k3b and wma.  Is it possible ?06:06
AWOSDeveven a XP under Qemu how-to up there06:06
Dr_williswindows xp has a fixmbr command to overwrite the mbr06:06
tony_hummm06:06
flaccidi don't know how a vm would be faster than native06:06
Dr_willisthe xp cd can doit.06:06
Dr_willisbut i missed what the actual problem is.06:06
tony_so qemu is good thing to go with ???06:07
AWOSDevDr_willis he wants to install XP then go back after a while and remove Windows and go back to Kubuntu only06:07
tony_and when i want to remove it , wont damange my linux installation and leave extra stuff behinde ?06:07
AWOSDevtony_, that's the point of Qemu.06:07
AWOSDevYes06:07
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tony_where can i find Qemu06:07
AWOSDevtony_, in the Konsole, type sudo apt-get install qemu06:08
Dr_willisor install vmware. :P but heck  the way xp is - it will take you a day to just get it working06:08
AWOSDevflaccid, I know this isn't a BSD channel but the BSD channels aren't very nice to me because I don't know the inner workings of FreeBSD.06:08
AWOSDevI'm a stupid n00b to them06:09
tony_i am installing qemu, and i will install win2k pro. not xp .. hope that would be much easier06:09
AWOSDevI *want* to learn06:09
flaccidsounds about right06:09
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ryan_will more desktops slow down my computer06:09
AWOSDevtony_, yes Windows 2000 or XP or heck even another Linux; Qemu will do it all!06:09
AWOSDevryan_, um no not really06:09
Dr_williswhy do ya even need windows for just a short time? :P06:09
tony_good, installation complete  , now i have to figure , where is it been installed :)06:10
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Dr_willisryan_,  you mean virtual desktops  that are the default of 4 ?06:10
Dr_willisqemu will take a little reading.06:10
ryan_yeah virtual desktops06:10
AWOSDevryan_, virtual desktops are just like directories to sort your running applications06:10
Dr_willisya need to make a hard drive file for it touse. then boot it with the cd. or better yet a iso image of the cd.06:11
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CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi!traceroute06:11
ubotutraceroute: traces the route taken by packets over a TCP/IP network. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4a12-20 (dapper), package size 21 kB, installed size 104 kB06:11
Audimagehow do i get rid of that annoying jumping icon under my mouse when i open an app06:11
freaky_just thought i would say hello (goes back to lurking after saying hi)06:12
lupine_85_launch feedback06:12
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ryan_ok....i was jusk trying to figure out why my computer is all or a sudden running slow06:12
lupine_85_in system settings somewhere06:12
AWOSDevtony_, go read the Qemu documentation from here:06:12
AWOSDevhttp://kidsquid.com/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/QuickStartGuide#head-df84d962889bcd7cf08d2f20481228360a1f506206:12
tony_well, i think i need to reboot so for qeum to show up .. be right back06:12
Dr_willistony_,  no you dont06:12
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiwhats the command for that...   tarceroute?06:12
Dr_willisit dont have an icon as far as i know06:12
tony_humm.06:12
Dr_willisqemu --help06:12
Dr_willis:)06:12
ryan_i had it at 10 desktops then backed it back town to 4 and it didnt do anything06:13
Dr_willisand ooooodles of options will apear06:13
tony_ohh,. is it shell based ??06:13
Audimagedoes anybody know how to get rid of the jumping icon under my mouse when an app is opening06:13
Dr_williseverything is shell based. :P06:13
Dr_willisits just some times the shell app launches a gui. :)06:13
AWOSDevAudimage: System Settings->Mouse06:13
tony_LOL DR..06:13
Audimageawosdev: i've looked there, but i can't find the correct option06:13
tony_im new to linux .06:13
freaky_even windows apps are shell based06:13
AWOSDev"Visual feedback on activation"06:14
AWOSDev^ Audimage that's what you're looking for06:14
AWOSDevUnder "Icons"06:14
Audimageit is unchecked, and they keep popping up06:14
AWOSDevtowards the bottom06:14
Audimagei thought that was it too06:14
AWOSDevhmmm.....06:14
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AWOSDevI think it's cute so I'm not sure how to remove it :P06:15
Audimagei want to squish it under my foot06:15
Audimagei hate it06:15
freaky_LOL06:15
tony_can in install other window application , within qemu enviroment ????06:15
Audimageit is all mac osxed up06:15
AWOSDevtony_, yes06:15
tony_such as macromedia , dot net framwork06:16
AWOSDevtony_, yep06:16
tony_cool06:16
AWOSDeveven Visual Studio .NET06:16
tony_that would be even better06:16
AWOSDevit's basically a computer within a computer :)06:16
tony_while in the subject.06:16
tony_dose anyone know of any PHP IDE ( good one  ) for linux06:16
AWOSDevKDevelop06:16
tony_thanks AWOSdev06:17
tony_will give that a try06:17
AWOSDevtony_, Yeah it's neat06:17
AWOSDeveven lets you do Linux programming, with C/C++ and Ruby and stuff06:17
tony_OH OH OH , i wanting to ask you this06:17
tony_dose anyone know anything about KXDOCKER ??? :| LOOKS NEAT :)06:18
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Dr_willisicky eye candy06:18
AWOSDevkxdocker? no...06:18
Dr_williscauses cavaities06:18
Dr_willis:)06:18
AWOSDev!info kxdocker06:18
ubotukxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.39-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 253 kB, installed size 832 kB06:18
tony_kxdocker makes the linux look like MACOSX06:18
AWOSDevWow.06:19
Dr_willismany would not consider that a good thing. :P06:19
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiEwwww   mac on Linux...   Hmmmm06:19
tony_HUHH. is there one for ubuntu ???06:19
AWOSDevYou know I was trying to convince one of my Windows friends to move to Linux.06:19
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AWOSDevSo I changed the 'K' icon to the Windows logo and the Konqueror icon to the IE logo06:19
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiand hows that going AWOSDev?06:19
Audimagehahaha06:19
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKihehe06:19
AWOSDevChange the background to green06:19
Linux_Galoretony_: kdocker is the old unstable branch its called smoothdock not www.kde-apps.org06:19
AWOSDevShe's considering it...06:19
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiHmmmm06:20
Linux_Galorenow*06:20
Dr_willisa Linux Chick!06:20
Audimagehot06:20
freaky_lol06:20
Dr_willisall because of eye candy06:20
AWOSDevand another friend wants Linux to have Linux06:20
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiwell, just hack into her box and show her how much more secure Linux can be..06:20
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi;)06:20
AWOSDevShe's done with Windows06:20
AWOSDevShe hates Mozilla, she hates IE, she hates Windows06:20
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKigood 4 her!   :)06:20
Audimagemozilla rocks06:20
AWOSDevso I'm gonna surprise her on her birthday next month with a new computer with Linux on it :)06:20
tony_kxdocker new version i think is 1.4 somehting, i can NOT undrestand anything from the site ..06:21
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiEwwww  nice06:21
Linux_GaloreI noticed smoothdock isnt on the ubuntu repo's, the source compiled fine though on dapper06:21
tony_very hard to follow information06:21
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morghanphoenixOkay, new sources list, now it wants to remove kdelibs-bin.06:21
Audimagedoes anybody else have any idea how to remove the jumping icon under the mouse when an app is opening?06:21
morghanphoenixThat's not okay is it?06:21
Linux_Galoretony_: kxdocker is dead, its now called smoothdock06:21
AWOSDevmorghanphoenix yes it is06:21
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKitony_:  welcome to Linux buddy..  :p06:21
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AWOSDevit did that to me too06:21
AWOSDevmorghanphoenix It will reinstall it06:21
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Brophohello06:21
arunkalehello06:22
AWOSDevit's getting the latest from KDE themselves06:22
morghanphoenixwierd06:22
AWOSDevfreaked me out too :)06:22
arunkalewhat freaked you out?06:22
tony_thanks .. :) ..06:22
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiAWOSDev:  U ever use ummmmm  whats that one that makes all kinda neet slick little icons on the desktop[ n stuff..??06:22
morghanphoenixyeah, I might be a newbie but I was preddy sure that was necessary.06:22
AWOSDevCaBIGuy-SuRfErKi - um no what is it?06:22
Linux_Galoretony_: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=658506:23
Brophoim bored06:23
morghanphoenixlooking for the animated launch icon thingy06:23
morghanphoenixit's starting to bug me too.06:23
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiUmmmm    I can't remember what the name of it is..  but you can change everything on the desktop..06:23
arunkaleBropho: Join the club :)06:23
AWOSDevI like the bouncy one where it's the printer06:23
Audimageme too06:23
AWOSDevit looks like a happy little baby printer :)06:23
Linux_GaloreCaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: eer kcontrol06:23
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKilol06:23
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiLinux_Galore: nope..  it's an add on ..06:24
morghanphoenixyeah, but it tends to erase everything under it when it's loading06:24
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKidangit..06:24
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi:|06:24
Brophoi am so freakin bored!06:24
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AWOSDevBropho, meet ubotu:06:24
AWOSDev!games06:24
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php06:24
AWOSDevSome of my faves are:06:24
Linux_GaloreCaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: you can change anything on the desktop as it is, just need to add the kcontrol plugins06:24
AWOSDev!kpat06:25
ubotukpat: KDE solitaire patience game. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 318 kB, installed size 792 kB06:25
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AWOSDev!torcs06:25
ubotutorcs: 3D racing cars simulator game using OpenGL. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4-1ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 4368 kB, installed size 20900 kB06:25
morghanphoenixargh!06:25
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiLinux_Galore:  well, this one I was thinkin about you can make your own menues, and icons (make them look how you want them to) and all kinda other stuff..06:25
Linux_GaloreCaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: it custom taskbars = dekorator06:25
Linux_Galoreie*06:25
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiI can't rember the name of it though..06:25
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi:/06:25
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AWOSDevmorghanphoenix: what did it really remove kdelibs-bin?  :)06:26
Linux_GaloreCaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: yes i can do all that in kcontrol06:26
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CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiLinux_Galore:  it's NOT kcontrol..06:26
morghanphoenixhow do I get the xscreensaves to work, gls work, xs work in gnome, but won't work in KDE.06:26
unix_infidel!w32codecs06:26
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:26
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi!desktop add on06:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about desktop add on - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:27
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiummm06:27
unix_infidelis there a repos that has the w32 codecs?06:27
Linux_GaloreCaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: you add it "too" kcontrol sheesh, dont you read anything06:27
unix_infidelboth sveas and cipher seem to be down.06:27
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiLinux_Galore:  ok, so whats the name of the app then??06:27
Linux_GaloreCaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: depends on what you want to change06:27
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiyea..  thanks mr know it all.  :06:28
Linux_GaloreCaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: to change my start menu layout I use kbfx06:28
Linux_GaloreCaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: and yes thats a kcontrol add on06:28
Linux_GaloreCaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: to make a totally wack window setup I use decorator06:29
Linux_Galoredekorator*06:29
Brophoany1 know where to get patches for battlefield for linux06:29
Linux_Galoreand ooh god know its a kcontrol add on too06:29
Linux_Galoreno*06:29
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiNope,.   none of them..06:30
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKisorry...06:30
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiIm lookin now..06:30
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Linux_GaloreCaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: I think your thinking of baghira06:33
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Linux_Galorebut thats a theme engine06:33
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKinope, that's not it neather.,   Ummmm06:33
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKidang it, I wish I could remeber it..06:33
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CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiit's a stand alone app but you have to "build" the menues and icons and stuff but it looks really slick..06:34
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiso, there is some coding involved..06:34
Linux_GaloreCaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: hmm karamba06:34
Linux_Galorethere applets06:35
Linux_Galorehttp://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=3806:35
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKinaa..  hang on, Im still lookin.06:35
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abattoiryou guys speaking about a docker?06:38
abattoir!kxdocker06:38
ubotukxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.39-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 253 kB, installed size 832 kB06:38
abattoirgoogle that for images06:38
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ubuntuwow06:39
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Linux_Galoreaccept kxdocker is deprecated06:40
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiI found it!!!06:40
abattoirLinux_Galore: aah, i see you already tried it...06:40
Linux_Galoreits not called smoothdock06:40
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKienlightenment..06:40
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi:)06:40
Linux_Galorenow*06:40
abattoirLinux_Galore: kxdocker is 'deprecated' ????06:40
aoeuidI'm having a bit of trouble installing kubuntu, the installer always says that it can't mount the partition, and I have no idea how to fix it06:40
Linux_GaloreI have smoothdock installed06:40
aoeuidcould someone please help?06:40
Linux_Galoreabattoir: its been renamed smoothdock06:40
abattoirLinux_Galore: you mean by XQDocker?06:41
Linux_Galoresmoothdock -> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=658506:41
abattoirLinux_Galore: haha, of course it has not :)06:41
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiaoeuid:  yur trying to boot into Ubuntu?06:41
aoeuidto install kubuntu06:41
Linux_Galoreabattoir: click on the link ^^06:41
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiOh..06:41
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiK ubuntu..06:41
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiwell..06:41
abattoirLinux_Galore: ok, i'm there... and?06:42
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiK has been havin probs since day one..06:42
aoeuidheh06:42
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiif you want..06:42
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CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiU can DL plain Ubuntu, and install K afterward..06:42
aoeuiddo you think that would work better?06:42
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKithat's what I did..06:43
aoeuidinstall*06:43
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiand I installed K after the fact and I've had no problems..06:43
abattoirLinux_Galore: i cant find anything on that page where it says it 'replaced' or 'deprecated' kxdocker :)06:43
aoeuidI don't think the fact that it can't mount the drive has to do with it beink kde06:43
aoeuidbut I don't know how to fix it :/06:43
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CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiok..  see if you can mount another CD in the drive and then see if it works..06:44
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiOr..06:44
aoeuidhuh?06:44
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiare you talki bout the HDD?06:44
aoeuidumm06:44
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKihard drive disk06:44
aoeuidit says it can't mount sda406:44
aoeuidyeah06:44
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiok.06:44
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKithat's not a K problem..06:44
aoeuidyeah06:45
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiyou have another windowz machine?06:45
aoeuidsure06:45
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKik..06:45
Linux_Galoreabattoir: try this simple thing, when was the last fix for kxdocker, not when did smoothdock start06:45
Linux_Galorenow*06:45
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKihook up the HDD and format it there and then go to insatll and see what it says.06:45
arunkaleis there a solitaire-like game for kubuntu06:45
Linux_Galoreabattoir: you can use kxdocker but its dead in the water06:45
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aoeuidhuhh?06:46
aoeuidnvm06:46
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiaoeuid:  ok, check it..  hook up the hard disk to your windowz amchine and format the drive THEN see if K can be installed on it..06:47
Linux_Galoreabattoir: a new version of smoothdock was released just a few days ago06:47
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKikapeach?06:47
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi:p06:47
Linux_Galoreabattoir: and trust me its way more stable than kxdocker and works 100% better06:47
abattoirLinux_Galore: i dont want to get into a flamewar, and i guess this is offtopic....06:47
Linux_Galoreabattoir: kxdocker isnt being worked on anymore so smoothdock was started06:48
aoeuidfor one thing, I cant do that since this is a laptop06:48
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiLinux_Galore:  did you see my message when I said what it was I was thinkin of?06:48
aoeuidfor another, I;m dual booting here06:48
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CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiaoeuid:  ok see, you have to give us specifics..06:48
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi:p06:48
aoeuidI'll just use partition magic here06:48
aoeuidcya06:48
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKithere ya go06:49
abattoirLinux_Galore: but just to complete my point, KSmoothDock was submitted on 11 Jun 2003, the last update for KXdocker was on 15 Apr. 200606:49
abattoirLinux_Galore: nope, that is not true at all, who says that, any links? :)06:49
Linux_Galoreabattoir: yes kxdocker hasnt been patched for ages06:49
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abattoirLinux_Galore: work on kxdocker has stopped, i agree, but that's because stefano is working on XQDocker(for Qt/KDE4)06:50
abattoirit is *not* replaced by KSmoothDock06:50
Linux_Galoreabattoir: it is for me because kxdocker is a buggy mess and smoothdock isnt06:50
abattoirand i stop here, if you still are convinced about what you say, i suggest we go somewhere else :)06:50
abattoirLinux_Galore: well, then please say that explicity instead of misleading people :)06:51
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CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi!Enlightenment06:52
ubotuEnlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.06:52
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bobbyyuWhere can I get Sun's JDK that's compatible with Kubuntu?06:52
Linux_Galoreabattoir: use both and then come back, there the same, just one actually works06:52
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CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi!java06:52
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository06:52
abattoirLinux_Galore: i have used both :)06:52
Linux_Galoreabattoir: and he's doing the docker for kde4, you have to be mad kxdocker was horrible06:53
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abattoirLinux_Galore: it works perfectly well for me, as a matter of fact i'm using it right now...06:53
Linux_Galoreabattoir: the menu layout was rubbish06:53
abattoirLinux_Galore: you mean for the configurator?06:54
Linux_Galoreyes06:54
abattoirLinux_Galore: or do you mean Kmenu?06:54
Linux_Galoreand to change anything you have to think like a dyslexic monkey06:54
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Linux_Galoreno the kxdocker config tool06:54
abattoirLinux_Galore: well, as i said, you are happy w/ KSmoothdock, and you use, i'm happy w/ kxdocker, the point it the former did not replace the latter, so lets please stop here...06:55
abattoir*the point is06:56
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smaggardHi!06:56
rodhi, i have apache2 and php set up fine with mysql, but when i try and use the php cli binary it doesn't have the mysql library loaded.  i've looked through adept but can't find the package to install to enable it, can anyone help?06:56
Linux_Galoreabattoir: the project is still dead in the water and telling users to use a dead in the water project isnt good advice06:57
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smaggardhave you tried this yet? http://forge.mysql.com/wiki/PHP_FAQ just wondering...06:58
smaggardit may not be something you can just install a package from adept or aptget you might have to do some config and manual download06:59
unix_infidelanyone know where i can checkout cvs-vim06:59
AWOSDevarunkale:06:59
AWOSDev!kpat06:59
ubotukpat: KDE solitaire patience game. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 318 kB, installed size 792 kB06:59
unix_infidelcvs.sf.net seems to have been down for the last 24hours+06:59
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bobbyyuWhat's a good backports repository?07:00
arunkalethanks :)07:00
AWOSDevarunkale, np07:00
AWOSDev:)07:00
unix_infidelanyone?07:02
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AWOSDevunix_infidel, I can ping them07:03
abattoirunix_infidel: http://vim.cvs.sourceforge.net/vim/ works for me07:03
unix_infidelbah, stupid jammeson.07:04
unix_infidelgave me the wrong url for checkout.07:04
unix_infidelfinally getting around to compiling vim :)07:04
unix_infidelabattoir: you using vim7?07:05
abattoirunix_infidel: no i use only kate07:05
flaccidanybody here can help me with ati prop. driver ?07:06
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flaccid[2006-09-24 15:09]  <flaccid> for some reason i changed to prop driver with xorg.conf07:10
flaccid[2006-09-24 15:09]  <flaccid> but fglrxinfo outputs: display: :0.0  screen: 0 | OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org | OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect | OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)07:10
flaccid[2006-09-24 15:10]  <flaccid> and atieventsd goes up to 100% cpu usage07:10
Tulgamy ISP blocked 1 site. I need that site. is it possible?07:10
flaccidTulga: http tunnel/proxy07:10
unix_infidelhow do i tell if a certain package is installed or not from repos?07:11
Tulgaflaccid: tnx07:11
flaccidunix_infidel: dpkg -l | grep -i packagename07:11
unix_infidelflaccid: gracias.07:11
flaccidnp07:11
flaccidanyone here use ati prop. drivers?07:12
unix_infidelcompiling vim7 :)07:12
unix_infideltemp jumped from 43 to 61C07:12
unix_infidel(laptop)07:12
uncannybuzzardflaccid, are you running an ati card?07:12
uncannybuzzardwhoops07:12
uncannybuzzardhave you tried running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and changing ati to fglrx?07:13
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jamadagnianyone tried kubuntu edgy knot 3?07:14
uncannybuzzardand does anyone know how to get big desktop up and running properly?07:14
AWOSDevflaccid: I do with no problems.07:15
uncannybuzzardguh?07:16
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uncannybuzzardanyone know anything about big desktop at all? :P07:19
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abattoirjamadagni: yes, why do you ask?07:25
jamadagni@abattoir - did you see the usplash having the left part of word "kubuntu" on the right and vice versa?07:26
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eromananyone know how to do xgl with kubuntu, some how to or something ???07:29
flacciduncannybuzzard: there is no option in the reconfigure to change to fglrx07:30
arunkalecan someone tell me how to remove those dots that come before every character while using kate?07:31
flaccidare they tabs?07:32
abattoirjamadagni: are you runnign it through an emulator?07:32
uncannybuzzardno07:32
abattoir!xgl07:32
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems07:32
abattoireroman: ^^^^07:32
abattoirbleh07:32
uncannybuzzardyou've installed the ati drivers eh?07:33
flaccidyes i have07:33
uncannybuzzardhrm07:33
uncannybuzzardsee, i had the same problem up until about 20 min ago07:33
flaccidcan you have a look at my xorg.conf07:33
flaccidare you on ati, uncannybuzzard?07:33
uncannybuzzardoh wait, there is a line in xorg.conf that says Driver        "ati"07:34
uncannybuzzarddid you change that to fglrx?07:34
flaccidyes i did07:34
flaccidhttp://pastebin.ca/18074007:34
flaccidthere is my xorg07:34
uncannybuzzardand there is no place in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg that asks you for your driver?07:36
flaccidnope07:36
flaccidit comes up with debconf07:36
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flaccidand i can't find an option for that07:36
uncannybuzzardhang on07:37
jamadagni@abattoir - no07:38
jamadagnireal install07:38
abattoirjamadagni: ok, and what is your monitor's native resolution?07:38
uncannybuzzardok, when you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, a screen comes up asking about auto-detecting video junk?07:38
flaccidunc, yes07:39
jamadagninative? 1024x768 i guess07:39
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flacciduncannybuzzard: run me through it? you know the right options?07:39
abattoirjamadagni: there are some issues, i think it'll be fixed... so i guess it's known...07:40
uncannybuzzardand if you hit yes, a list of server drivers comes up?07:40
jamadagniok bye thanks07:40
abattoirjamadagni: and what about tty s ?07:40
uncannybuzzardwith ati highlighted07:40
abattoirjamadagni: do they look normal?07:40
jamadagnittys?07:40
jamadagnididn't try07:40
flacciduncannybuzzard: if i check the first box to auto detect hardware, the next screen is attempt monitor detection?07:40
jamadagniwill try and respond later07:40
jamadagnigotta run now07:40
abattoirjamadagni: virtual terminals... ok :)07:40
jamadagnisorry07:40
plugswhat's the difference between su and sudo07:40
jamadagniplugs - search the ubuntu wiki and forums07:41
flaccidi then next screen is enter an identifier for your monitor07:41
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flaccidi put in an id07:41
flaccidnext screen is resolutions07:41
uncannybuzzardok, run that over again and don't auto detect07:41
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flaccidok i try uncannybuzzard07:41
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flacciduncannybuzzard: never get the option07:42
uncannybuzzardweird07:43
uncannybuzzardi have no idea how to help you out then07:43
flacciddang07:43
flaccidthanks anyway07:43
flaccidsux hard07:43
AWOSDevwhat's wrong?07:43
uncannybuzzardwhat version of ubuntu are you running?07:43
flacciddapper07:43
flaccidi select multiple resolutions, it doesn't look like they go in xorg.conf07:44
AWOSDevjust vi xorg.conf07:44
uncannybuzzardme too, it's odd those are different07:44
AWOSDevadd them manually07:44
flaccidAWOSDev: my real issue is getting ati prop. to go07:44
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waldschattenAWOSDev You wouldn't happen to know how to log out of just one Kopete screen name would you?07:46
AWOSDevUm07:46
AWOSDevno07:46
flaccidbrb07:46
AWOSDevOh07:46
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AWOSDevwaldschatten07:46
AWOSDevgo under the network you're on and click 'offline'07:46
waldschattenGuess I'm gonna have to kill the whole thing to get my primary name freed up07:46
AWOSDevyou have two nicks on one server?07:47
AWOSDevhow in the world did you manage that one?07:47
InteliWaspi have an intresting question... why do my removable drives(cd-rom and ipod) keep remounting?07:47
AWOSDevInteliWasp, in what way?07:47
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waldschattenNot sure.07:47
waldschattenThey told me I needed a backup screen name07:48
InteliWaspthe "what do you want to do" dialog keeps poping up for my ipod and konq opens on my cd drive07:48
samjnaaabattoir you here?07:48
samjnaai am in edgy now07:48
AWOSDevThat's weird07:48
abattoirsamjnaa: yes, i am07:48
samjnaai was able to login to all the tty-s07:48
AWOSDevFreeBSD has the KTux screen saver :P07:48
waldschattenargh!07:48
samjnaasamjnaa = jamadagni yo usee07:48
abattoirsamjnaa: yes, i got that bit :)07:48
samjnaa:D07:48
AWOSDevInteliWasp are they already mounted?07:49
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samjnaaok but the only difference i see is that the tty's don't seem to be in full text mode07:49
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samjnaai mean, it's the sort of framebuffer text or whatever07:49
flaccidno luck guys07:49
InteliWaspthey were shown on the desktop but not mounted07:49
abattoirsamjnaa: hmmm ok, so they look normal then(in terms of the rest of the appearance) ?07:49
InteliWaspie the no green thigny07:50
flaccidcan somebody using ati prop. driver (from sources) pastebin their xorg.conf?07:50
samjnaawell yes07:50
samjnaai was able to login07:50
samjnaaso far07:50
samjnaawhat did you expect?07:50
AWOSDevInteliWasp no clue :l07:50
InteliWaspoh well07:51
InteliWaspbtw another question, how can i configure my ati remote?07:51
samjnaai was able to login07:51
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flaccidi found the bug to this http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problems_with_fglrx#Perpetual_Mesa_GLX_Indirect_on_Debian07:52
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waldschattenns07:53
flaccidi brb07:53
damian_ls07:54
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damian_whoops07:54
abattoirsamjnaa: no, i expected your ttys to be split like the kubuntu logo as well :)07:55
AWOSDevAhh07:55
AWOSDevThe guy who hated the bouncy cursor07:55
AWOSDevare you still here?07:55
abattoirsamjnaa: if you want you can file a bug in launchpad(not sure if one already exists though)07:55
abattoirsamjnaa: but i'm pretty sure the usplash is being worked upon :)07:56
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morghanphoenixfinally07:56
morghanphoenixRemind me never to use kopete for irc again07:57
morghanphoenixlol07:57
AWOSDev:P07:57
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AWOSDevaudimage07:58
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arunkaleyou use kopete for irc?07:59
arunkalewhy?!07:59
morghanphoenixJust trying it07:59
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abattoirarunkale: because it looks prettier? :P07:59
morghanphoenixwoo hoo!08:00
unix_infidelheh.08:00
unix_infideli think irssi looks pretty :)08:00
arunkaleabattoir: konversation is cool08:01
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AWOSDevmorghanphoenix, but how?08:01
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morghanphoenixsame way as in kopete08:01
rjiananyoebody teach me how to update the repositor of kubuntu??08:02
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AWOSDevI don't see plugins anywhere08:02
morghanphoenixjust type the command08:02
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morghanphoenixsee08:02
AWOSDev:)08:02
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morghanphoenixfigured I had to give it a try08:03
AWOSDevSo that's how Bran did it08:03
morghanphoenixthe noob strikes again08:03
morghanphoenixlol08:03
AWOSDev(Bran is a guy in #OSDev that does that every now and again; uses Debian)08:03
abattoirrjian: sure, run 'sudo apt-get update' in a terminal... or click on 'Fetch Updates' in adept.08:04
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morghanphoenixso, is 300 megs normal for virtual memory usage in kubuntu?08:04
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AWOSDevDepends08:05
AWOSDevhow much memory you have08:05
AWOSDevMem:    255484k total,   250380k used,     5104k free,    11900k buffers08:05
AWOSDevSwap:   509784k total,   182060k used,   327724k free,    99208k cached08:05
morghanphoenix25608:05
AWOSDevNow what do you have up?08:05
morghanphoenix729 swap08:05
morghanphoenixamarok, kopete, konversation and ktorrent08:05
morghanphoenixI'm using 450 now though08:06
AWOSDevI have Konsole, Gwenview, 9 Konqueror tabs, System settings, KDevelop, amaroK, Konversation, Kwallet, Adept, KAMix and Klipper08:06
AWOSDevare you in top?08:06
morghanphoenixYeah, that sounds like mine last night.08:06
morghanphoenixeh?08:07
AWOSDevin the Konsole08:07
AWOSDevtype top08:07
AWOSDevAnd just to gloat:08:07
AWOSDevup 8 days, 10:19,  1 user,  load average: 0.40, 0.47, 0.6908:07
morghanphoenixyakuake didn't restart when I rebooted, just a sec08:08
AWOSDevyakuwhat?08:08
AWOSDev!info yakuake08:08
ubotuyakuake: Yet Another Kuake, KDE terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 67 kB, installed size 488 kB08:08
AWOSDevI love that bot!08:08
AWOSDev!botsnack08:08
ubotuYum!08:08
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morghanphoenixconsole, hit f12 to drop it down from the screen top08:09
morghanphoenixAlways on so it loads lots faster than Konsole.08:09
AWOSDevOh08:09
AWOSDevKonsole takes maybe three seconds to load for me08:09
AWOSDevhow much MHz?08:09
AWOSDevI have 50008:09
morghanphoenixAhh, Karamba08:09
morghanphoenixthat's what I forgot08:09
morghanphoenix120008:10
AWOSDev!?08:10
morghanphoenixOnly 256 ram08:10
AWOSDevand you complain about how long Konsole takes?!08:10
serishemai'm having trouble with sudo not working. I'm using ldap and sudo will authenticate against it. But it won't actually do anything..08:10
flaccidhow can i do a sudo apt-get install linux-header-(current kernel version) ?08:10
serishemait'll ask for my password and it knows if it's right or wrong but it never actually runs the command08:10
morghanphoenixJunk parts, found a good processor, but memory is lacking08:11
AWOSDevserishema, try sudo -s08:11
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serishemanothing happened08:11
morghanphoenix4 seccond load time for konsole08:11
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AWOSDevmorghan my man08:11
morghanphoenix500ms load time for yakuake08:11
AWOSDevyou need some MEMORY!08:11
morghanphoenixI know, the place I volunteer at will sell me a gig for $8008:12
AWOSDevOoh get it quick!08:12
morghanphoenixI just need to stop smoking so I have money for computer parts08:12
AWOSDevThere's your reason08:12
AWOSDevmore money for computer parts!08:12
AWOSDev:)08:12
morghanphoenixIt's a standing offer, and fifty cents a gig for hard disks08:12
AWOSDevWhere do you volunteer at?08:13
AWOSDevand where can I get an application?  :)08:13
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flaccidi'm having problem doing sudo apt-get install linux-headers-restricted-modules-2.6.15-2708:13
flaccidoops i see prob08:13
morghanphoenixI volunteer at a place that takes computers that have been thrown out and builds systems to  ship overseas to schools in underprivledged parts of the world.08:13
flaccidhmm what is my prob with sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-2708:14
morghanphoenixThey have a contract with total reclaim so all recycled computers come through thier warehouse and we check the parts to see what works and build systems for schools out of it.08:15
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morghanphoenixThat's how I got the 1.2Ghz, somebody'd beat the case up, looked like with steel toed boots.08:15
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arunkalehow do i change the fonts in open office to look like my normal fonts?08:16
morghanphoenixThey couldn't ship it busted up so I piped up and got to take it home with me.08:16
morghanphoenixoops, I'm in the main room, sorry for the off-topic.08:16
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arunkalehow do i change the font settings in open office?08:18
arunkaleanti aliasing, etc?08:18
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kayey78how can i play mp3 on kubuntu??08:21
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kayey78what player will i use?08:22
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morghanphoenixI use amarok08:23
morghanphoenixor xmms08:23
ubuntui sue sousoutte08:23
Linux_Galorekayey78: drop a mp3 file on your desktop and click on it08:24
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Linux_Galorekayey78: it should ask you to install mp3 support08:24
kayey78hmm i want to install XMMS it says could not find package??08:24
morghanphoenixYou have to install xine and the libxine-extracodecs, possibly lame too08:24
morghanphoenixgot your rpositories set?08:25
Linux_Galorekayey78: xmms isnt in the same league as amarok08:25
morghanphoenixno, it's not08:25
morghanphoenixamaroK is my favorite.08:25
kayey78yup i dont know how to set the repositors on kubuntu?? how can i do it??08:25
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morghanphoenixI use xmms for playing single files to test them out, it loads a lot faster.08:26
ubuntusuck mo gogot08:26
ubuntusenzor08:26
ubuntuel mana wastah08:26
morghanphoenixI can't remember the source-o-matic url08:26
Linux_Galorekayey78: in simple terms you open up adept and under view there is a manage repo section then you just look at the lines and activate multiverse etc08:26
ubuntuwhen is liverpool playing?08:26
morghanphoenixtry googling it08:27
ubuntu:s08:27
ubuntuam lagfging08:27
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kayey78multiverse?? wer?08:28
morghanphoenixchecking08:29
morghanphoenixI think it's universe, might be multiverse though.08:29
morghanphoenixARGH!08:29
morghanphoenixDoing too much at once with too little ram08:29
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kayey78wer? i can find that settings??08:30
morghanphoenixhttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:30
morghanphoenixuse that to get a source list08:30
Linux_Galorekayey78: I just told you08:30
Linux_Galorekayey78: start->system-adept  then view-> manage repo08:31
Linux_Galorekayey78: the lines are already in there you just need to right click and activate them08:31
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AWOSDevmorghanphoenix -08:32
AWOSDev!source-o-matic08:32
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic08:32
AWOSDevand08:32
AWOSDev!xmms08:33
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs08:33
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AWOSDevhmm that didn't help08:33
morghanphoenix!amarok08:33
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org08:33
morghanphoenixooh08:33
morghanphoenixdidn't know about that little ditty.08:33
AWOSDevalso08:33
AWOSDev!info xmmz08:33
AWOSDev!info xmms08:33
ubotuPackage xmmz does not exist in any distro I know08:33
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ubotuxmms: Versatile X audio player. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.10+cvs20050809-4ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1029 kB, installed size 7256 kB08:33
AWOSDevcomponent main08:34
AWOSDev...08:34
morghanphoenixyou see the url I sent you?08:34
AWOSDevYes08:34
AWOSDevKonqueror konqed out on me though ;P08:34
morghanphoenixthat's where I volunteer.08:34
morghanphoenixAh, I use oprea08:35
morghanphoenixKonqueror konqued out on me a lot.08:35
morghanphoenixI'd use lynx if it'd work right08:36
deeoi've been having a strange experience with WoW and Wine.  i'm using dapper, and i've dried both the repository ATI drivers and the ATI current ones (8.29.x).  I've tried Wine CVS also, with the same result.  Basically, no problems at all.  I login, start running around, and about 5 seconds into that my system locks solid, I can't even ping my PC.  I even grabbed a new motherboard, but same problem08:36
morghanphoenixwho needs pictures08:36
kayey78administration says the administration directory is lock??08:38
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AWOSDevor just use w3m with image support08:38
morghanphoenixis there a disrto comparison channel?08:39
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osirisanyone recomend a pdf reader ?08:40
AWOSDevHmm...don't think so :P08:40
AWOSDevosiris, Adobe Acrobat?08:40
osirisother than that08:40
kayey78waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa??08:40
osiriscome on08:40
AWOSDevsudo apt-get install acroread08:40
kayey78anyone help me08:41
AWOSDev!pdf08:41
ubotupdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)08:41
AWOSDev!info evince08:41
ubotuevince: Document (postscript, pdf) viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 676 kB, installed size 3176 kB08:41
AWOSDev!info kpdf08:41
ubotukpdf: PDF viewer for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 307 kB, installed size 984 kB08:41
AWOSDevkayey78, does that help?08:41
kayey78its still says couldnt find package xmms?08:41
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morghanphoenixHave you tried automatix kayey?08:42
morghanphoenixIt gives you the newest version of amaroK and the codecs.08:43
morghanphoenix!automatix08:43
ubotuautomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.08:43
kayey78i cant install anthything yet..08:43
kayey78i need to set the universe or the repositor enable08:43
kayey78but i think ive already did..08:44
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morghanphoenixthe web page give really easy step-by-step instructions for adding the automatix repo and setting it up on x/k/ubuntu.08:44
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AWOSDevWhat's the best way to convince my ISP to upgrade their OS?08:48
arunkalethreaten them08:48
arunkale:p08:48
AWOSDevThey're running FreeBSD 4.1108:48
flaccidget out missiles08:48
AWOSDevand 6.2 is about to come out08:49
flaccidthats alright08:49
flaccidwhats the issue08:49
totall_6_7lol08:49
AWOSDevsecurity08:49
flaccidif it aint broke why fix it08:49
AWOSDevthey're also still using Apache 1.308:49
flaccidthats ok08:49
flaccidyou need to show the holes to proove its needed08:49
morghanphoenixHuh, my ISP contracts with microsoft.08:49
arunkalehow do i set up my monitor to use 32-bit colour in place of 16-bit08:49
AWOSDevmorghanphoenix, that's scary :)08:49
morghanphoenixYeah, lots of nice bonuses that I won't ever use.08:50
morghanphoenixQwest is as scarry as microsoft.08:51
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morghanphoenixSo scary I was shaking so bad I hit the r key twice08:51
morghanphoenixlol08:52
AWOSDev:P08:52
AWOSDevEw Qwest08:52
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AWOSDevthat's who I'm gonna use after I move08:52
AWOSDevGreat, my ISP will be hacked08:52
AWOSDevgood thing I'm running FreeBSD :P08:52
AWOSDevIt's not good when the users are more secure than the ISP08:52
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morghanphoenixIt's a choice of Qwest or SpeakEasy08:52
arunkalehow do i set up my monitor to use 32-bit colour in place of 16-bit08:53
AWOSDevarunkale, IDK08:53
morghanphoenixSpeakeasy costs more for the same speed, so I got qwest even though they've raised my bill twice on me in two months.08:53
AWOSDevI looked under System Settings08:53
morghanphoenixI figure when they start costing as much as speakeasy I'm switching.08:54
fdovingmorghanphoenix: please use #kubuntu-offtopic for non-kubuntu-support discussion. thanks.08:55
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nacho_hola?09:01
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AWOSDevnacho_, Espanol?09:02
nacho_argentino09:02
nacho_me podrias ayudar??09:02
AWOSDev!ar09:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:02
AWOSDev!es09:02
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:02
nacho_wait09:02
AWOSDevanybody know the two letter ISO code for Argentina?09:03
nacho_wait09:03
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nacho_I need some help only because i'm finding trouble on compiling any kind of program09:04
fdovingAWOSDev: ar?09:04
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morghanphoenix!ag09:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ag - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:04
morghanphoenixnope09:04
nacho_just becouse I don't know how09:04
totall_6_7AWOSDev:09:04
totall_6_7try09:04
totall_6_7http://www.oanda.com/products/fxlookup/09:04
AWOSDevnacho_, try the build-essential package09:05
AWOSDev!info build-essential09:05
ubotubuild-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB09:05
morghanphoenixsave09:05
morghanphoenixquit09:05
morghanphoenixoops09:05
morghanphoenixsorry, used to MUDs09:05
morghanphoenixbye all09:05
PyroMithrandiranyone know how to scroll on a screen with a virtual resolution without the mouse? (Like, how you go to the edge of the screen with the mouse, and it moves to show more... only without the mouse)09:06
AWOSDevGoodbye!09:06
unix_infidelanyone know of any websites that show case websites that have decent designs, web layouts, css etc etc geared towards business?09:06
AWOSDevWhere do I download the Crystal Window Decoration?09:06
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nacho_well, perhaps you know any utility that can help me to do it from now on09:07
AWOSDevnacho_09:07
AWOSDevsudo apt-get install build-essential09:07
nacho_ok09:08
totall_6_7AWOSDev: did that help at all?09:08
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AWOSDevtotall_6_7 No I was looking for the two letter country code not the currency code09:09
AWOSDevbut it was for nacho_ because I didn't think he spoke English09:09
AWOSDevhe does09:09
totall_6_7AWOSDev: or did you want the TLD for Argentina?09:09
AWOSDevso nvm :)09:09
totall_6_7ok np09:09
AWOSDevtotall_6_7 that will come in handy when my startup starts dealing with other countries though :P09:10
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AWOSDevso thank you09:10
totall_6_7np09:10
AWOSDevWell it's 3am here09:10
AWOSDevbed09:10
AWOSDevG'night all!09:10
totall_6_7sleep well AWOSDev09:10
unix_infidelanyone?09:10
AWOSDevthanks totall_6_709:10
nacho_E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.09:11
nacho_what should I do??09:11
nacho_should I do that??09:13
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PyroMithrandiryes, nacho, do that09:15
nacho_great09:15
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nacho_so.. what does this build essential do?09:15
nacho_how does it work? any idea??09:16
Linux_Galorenacho_: sometimes when installed go wrong or interrupted things are not tidied up or install scripts are not run, that just fixes all that09:17
PyroMithrandirbuild-essential gives you the stuff that is essential to compile (build) programs, iirc09:18
Linux_Galore(wasnt talking about build)09:18
PyroMithrandir(right, I know, but he was ;) )09:18
nacho_so when i do ./configure It works09:19
Linux_Galorenacho_: no09:19
nacho_oh09:19
Linux_Galorenacho_: that checks your system and creates a make script to compile the source code to be installed on your system09:20
Linux_Galorenacho_: there are three stages09:20
nacho_go on09:20
Linux_Galorenacho_: first step is ./configure  this just checks to make sure all the libs and components are there for you to build the code and also checks to make sure the paths are setup in the make script for the libs09:21
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Linux_Galorenacho_: second step: well if that works then you just run make  that will compile the code09:21
PyroMithrandirif you are asking if having build-essential makes ./configure work, then yes, more or less that should be true09:22
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Linux_Galorenacho_: third step is installing the code, usually sudo make install09:22
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fdovingthis is good: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/softinstall.html09:22
fdovingi also recommend ubunut and debian users to use 'checkinstall' instead of 'make install'09:22
fdoving!checkinstall09:22
ubotucheckinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page.09:22
PyroMithrandiralright, guys, I'm calling it a night09:23
nacho_ok.. when i do the ./configure thing and it allways talls me that "checking for working makeinfo... missing"09:23
fdovingnite pyromithrandir.09:23
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Linux_Galorenacho_: yeah for a debian based system checkinstall  would be better than running "make install"09:24
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Linux_Galorenacho_: for the third step09:24
nagyvHello! I am saving a webcam's video with vlc, but it is very flickering. What should I set up differently?09:24
nacho_ok but im still on the first one09:24
Linux_Galorenacho_: means you are missing it09:25
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nacho_so?09:25
Linux_Galoreis there s simple way to getting *ubuntu to install the base dev tools like gcc g++ etc09:25
Linux_Galorenacho_: I just install all the dev stuff manually09:25
nacho_whoth adept???09:26
nacho_with adept?09:26
Linux_Galorenacho_: yes adept09:26
nacho_great09:26
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nacho_I'll do that and then if i find some truble i come back09:26
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fdovingLinux_Galore: that's what build-essential is for.09:27
nagyvLinux_Galore: apt-get install build-essentials09:27
fdovingnagyv: that's build-essential without the s at the end :)09:27
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fdovingit's ok :)09:27
Linux_Galorenacho_: run sudo apt-get install build-essential09:28
nacho_ok09:28
Linux_Galorenacho_: that should install all the dev tools09:28
nagyvhow can I put (at boot or kde login time) ~/bin to PATH?09:29
fdovingnagyv: make ~/bin09:29
fdovingthen it'll be done automatically. iirc.09:29
fdovingif you use bash i tink it will.09:29
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nagyvfdoving: make: Nothing to be done for `/home/nagyv/bin'.09:30
Linux_Galorenagyv:  mkdir ~/bin09:30
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fdovingnagyv: do as linux_galore says. mkdir, 'make' is for building. i didn't give the command :)09:31
nagyvLinux_Galore: actually I have the bin directory, but it seems not included into the PATH09:32
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fdovingnagyv: run 'echo $PATH'09:32
Linux_Galorenagyv: look at step 7 on this page -> http://linux.blogweb.de/categories/21-Ubuntu-MOTU09:32
nacho_still cant do it09:33
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Linux_Galorenacho_: what does is say is missing09:33
nacho_when it checks de makefile09:33
Linux_Galorenacho_: you have to run ./configure first09:34
Linux_Galorenacho_: if ./configure fails there will be no make file09:34
Linux_Galorenacho_: ./configure tells you why it failed09:34
nacho_yes when I do ./configure it tells me in some point that checking for working makeinfo... missing09:35
Linux_Galorenacho_: so you ran the command I gave you09:35
nacho_yes09:35
Linux_Galorenacho_: it should have installed a whole pile of stuff09:35
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nacho_I install everithing and when it gets to de nonfree-flashplayer it returns an error code 109:36
officel09:36
Linux_Galorenacho_: I didnt ask that09:36
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nacho_wait09:37
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nacho_so then I do the ./confiigure and at the end it tells me "configure: error: Gl library was not found"09:37
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Linux_Galorenacho_: yes it is missing something09:38
Linux_Galorenacho_: look it up in adept09:38
TheGateKeeperanyone use voice over ip?09:39
nagyvLinux_Galore: thx! I didn't had a .bash_profile file, but I put it back from the backups09:39
morghanphoenixhas anyone else had problems with the flash player.09:39
nagyvTheGateKeeper: wengophone, gizmo, Skype and a dozen of SIP's09:39
nacho_should i look for it like Gl lib?09:40
Linux_Galorenacho_: I suspect its looking for opengl libs09:40
TheGateKeepernagyv: I have installed ekiga but it won't connect to the remote host09:40
nacho_ok09:40
nagyvTheGateKeeper: did you set up your account properly? (sorry, but I don't know ekiga)09:41
nagyvTheGateKeeper: but because ekiga is a GTK/Gnome application, you can try to ask at the #ubuntu channel too09:42
TheGateKeepernagyv: well I got it to finally accept my ekiga account09:42
morghanphoenixEkiga gave me problems because of port forwarding with my firewall09:42
TheGateKeepernagyv: I have also installed teamspeak which seems to work except I can't use get anyone to hear me, I can hear them09:44
TheGateKeepermorghanphoenix: what do you use?09:44
morghanphoenixnothing, I gave up and stuck to my cell phone.09:44
nacho_i will install every thing related to gl on the sujecto dev09:44
nacho_it's that ok?09:44
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morghanphoenixbut it was port forwarding that was giving me problems.09:45
nagyvTheGateKeeper: I am using Skype and wengophone. Wengophone works well with webcam too. I could never get any of my friends to use Netmeeting on their side. :(09:45
morghanphoenixI had skype before I formatted my windows hard drive, haven't tried it in linux yet.09:46
Linux_Galorenagyv: always try gizmoproject09:46
Linux_Galoremorghanphoenix: works fine09:46
nagyvLinux_Galore: no webcam support09:46
nagyvmorghanphoenix: but I would recommend you the beta version, because of sound problems with the old one09:47
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nacho_Linux_Galore: should I install every thing related to gl on dev ???09:47
morghanphoenixI need to get a webcam, gods know my winTV card isn't working for anything else yet.09:47
TheGateKeepernagyv: if you use wengophone can you talk to people using ekiga?09:47
morghanphoenixI tried installing MythTV but kept getting driver problems09:48
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nagyvTheGateKeeper: I have never tried, but according to its features: yes09:49
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TheGateKeepernagyv: if I installed would you help me try to configure it?09:49
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Linux_Galorenacho_: no just the base stuff09:50
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Linux_Galorenagyv: http://gyachi.sourceforge.net/index.shtml09:50
nagyvTheGateKeeper: if you help me to configure SIP in general, then I would be happy to help you :)09:50
Linux_Galorenagyv: yahoo webcam and chat client for Linux09:50
TheGateKeepernagyv: ok09:50
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nagyvLinux_Galore: it's nice! :) I will try it out now! (hmm, do I have any yahoo friends?)09:52
TheGateKeepernagyv: I managed to connect to stun from this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145047&page=209:52
unix_infidelhttp://bmsbuildingservices.com/_img/division_retail_h2_bg.jpg09:52
unix_infidelanyone know how i can accomplish this in photoshop or gimp?09:53
unix_infidelthis is probably really simple :)09:53
nagyvTheGateKeeper: as I know you use wengophone only with its own SIP address, that comes with the registration. My problem is that I don't know how to make SIP calls with it to a different SIP "network".09:54
Linux_Galorenagyv: its like email   sip:joe.smith@somewhere.net09:55
TheGateKeepernagyv: like Linux_Galore says ^^^09:55
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flaccidhow can i upgrade linux-restricted-modules-686           2.6.15.25             to 2.6.15.27 ?09:56
TheGateKeepernagyv: for me you would dial sip:TheGatekeeper@ekiga.net09:57
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TheGateKeepernot that there is much point at the moment as things arn't working lol09:57
Linux_Galoreflaccid: should automatically do it, did for me09:57
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flaccidi don't think there is a .2709:57
Linux_Galoreflaccid: check in adept09:58
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flaccidis not09:59
Linux_Galorelet me check my i686 rig10:00
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Linux_Galoreyeah my i686 machine has 2.6.2710:01
flaccidserious10:01
flaccidwtf10:01
Linux_Galoreflaccid: yes10:01
flaccidcan find link to package?10:02
Linux_Galoresorry 2.6.15-27 sorry10:02
Linux_Galore27 is the latest path number on dapper10:02
Linux_Galorepatch*10:02
Linux_Galoreflaccid: type uname -a  in a term10:03
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Linux_Galoreyou should see something like 2.6.15-27-68610:04
flaccidcorrect10:05
Linux_Galoreflaccid: thats the latest10:05
Linux_Galorefor dapper anyway10:06
flaccidyes.. and i can't get the latest linux-restricted-modules-686 package10:06
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Linux_Galoreflaccid: I had the same problem10:06
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Linux_Galoreflaccid: i removed some dead wood packages and it seemed to fix itself10:07
Linux_Galoreflaccid: search on the word   kernel  look at what is installed10:07
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flaccidhmm10:10
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Linux_Galoreflaccid: all I have is linux-headers-2.6.15-27-686 and linux-image-2.6.15-27-68610:11
Linux_Galoreflaccid: works fine10:12
flaccidyes i'm talking about this package  linux-restricted-modules-68610:12
Linux_GaloreI have the kernel-sourced-2.6.15 package installed for the nvidia installer to work and thats about it10:12
Linux_Galoresources*10:12
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Linux_Galoreflaccid: there is no package of that name10:13
flacciddw :)10:14
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flaccidi got some more to try :)10:15
flaccidbbs10:15
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kyaneoshi10:17
kyaneosi have a problem10:17
kyaneoseverytime i start kde, kpersonalizer appears10:17
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Linux_Galorekyaneos: you have to remove the kpersonalizerrc file under ./kde/share/config/  from memory10:21
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Linux_Galorekyaneos: or edit it and remove change the startup line to false10:21
kyaneosLinux_Galore: it is removed10:21
Linux_Galorekyaneos: edit it then and set it to false10:22
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kyaneosLinux_Galore: it does not exist10:22
arunkalein firefox, in some pages light grey looks pink to me10:22
Linux_Galorekyaneos: it has to exist, its created when it starts10:22
arunkalein konqueror it looks like that all the time10:22
Linux_Galorearunkale: you can adjust that in kcontrol10:23
kyaneosLinux_Galore: it has not been created10:23
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arunkaleLinux_Galore: How do I do that?10:23
arunkaleand what do I adjust10:23
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Linux_Galorearunkale: in its the hardware section in kcontrol10:24
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Linux_Galorearunkale: its pretty obvious how it works10:24
Linux_Galoreanyway Im out for a while10:24
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arunkaleI dont know much about gamma settings and the like10:25
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Linux_Galorehmm10:25
Linux_Galorearunkale: you dont need to know anything just move the slider till grey looks like grey not pink10:25
nagyvTheGateKeeper: could you proceed with some SIP?10:25
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arunkalewhich slider? there are 4 there10:26
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Linux_Galorepick one and learn, you can always click on the default to go back to the normal settings10:27
arunkalei dont see any change, man.. i'm moving it10:27
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flaccidholy shizim10:29
flaccidi fixed it10:29
flaccidand the driver is shit loads faster10:29
flaccidholy crap10:29
arunkaleLinux_Galore: what change exactly in those squares am i supposed to look for10:30
flaccidw0a i can't believe this speed difference10:30
fdoving!language > flaccid10:31
flaccidwhat language are you referring to fdoving?10:31
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enrico__ciaooooooooooo10:36
enrico__W kubuntu10:36
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enrico__c' qualcuno???10:36
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nagyvenrico__: yes10:37
abattoir!it10:37
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!10:37
abattoirenrico__: ^^^^10:37
enrico__sorry10:37
enrico__sigh10:38
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abattoirenrico__: no problem, i was only trying to help you :)10:38
TheGateKeepernagyv: how do you mean? things aren't working on my PC10:38
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enrico__thanks10:39
nagyvTheGateKeeper: I think you are going to try wengophone, or something.10:39
nagyvI thought, sorry :)10:39
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TheGateKeepernagyv: found this to test my mic, but I can't hear anything :-( ---> arecord -f cd -D hw:0,0 -d 20 test.wav10:40
TheGateKeepernagyv: using aplay to play it back10:40
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arunkaleis KOffice good?10:42
abattoirarunkale: depends on your needs10:42
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arunkaleWord processor, spreadsheet10:43
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abattoirarunkale: yes, obviously... but if you use Open Document Formats, it works very well(for me), i wouldnt say that for compatibility with Microsoft Office files...10:44
linux__alienis Kubuntu and Ubuntu really same except for the KDE and Gnome differences?10:44
arunkaleokay..10:44
abattoirbtw, its also lighter, faster (and prettier :P) than Open Office.org...10:44
abattoirlinux__alien: yes...10:44
arunkaleopen office seems to be rendering fonts in it's own way10:44
morghanphoenixbut open office works perfectly when you need to take your files with you to the xp systems at school10:45
abattoirarunkale: do you have msttcorefonts installed?10:45
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arunkaleyeah10:45
abattoirmorghanphoenix: exactly, that won't be the case w/ Koffice, you might lose lots of formatting10:45
arunkaleall my web pages look really good.. i got my fonts to render in the same way os x renders fonts10:45
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arunkalebut open office is rendering fonts like Windows does10:45
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linux__alienso that means i can install Kubuntu from Ubuntu right?10:46
morghanphoenixThat's why I stick to open office, despite the fact that it's pathetically slow compared to other programs10:46
morghanphoenixyeah10:46
morghanphoenixthat's what I did10:46
abattoirlinux__alien: yes, 'kubuntu-desktop' is the metapackage to do that...10:46
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nagyvTheGateKeeper: and you didn't get any errors?10:46
morghanphoenixI also installed xubuntu from ubuntu10:46
linux__alienabattoir, is Kubuntu buggier because of KDE ? are there any issues really ?10:46
abattoirlinux__alien: of course not :P10:47
TheGateKeepernagyv: nope just the sound of silence10:47
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abattoirlinux__alien: there are always bugs..., but most of them are fixed....:)10:47
nagyvis your mic turned on? I mean in the mixer10:47
morghanphoenixonly problems I've had with kde is adept deciding to log up so I had to run dpkg manually.10:47
abattoirlinux__alien: i meant, there are always bugs in any software....10:47
morghanphoenixAside from that KDE mas been amazingly bug free.10:48
TheGateKeepernagyv: used arecord to record a 10 wav file then aplay to play it back10:48
abattoirmorghanphoenix: lock up, you mean?10:48
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abattoir!adept crash fix10:48
ubotuIf adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this command in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock'10:48
abattoirmorghanphoenix: ^^^ might help you10:48
linux__alieni am using Ubuntu and now currently installing Kubuntu-Desktop10:48
linux__alienfrom Ubuntu10:48
morghanphoenixit's fixed now, but every time I try to upgrade the flash player it locks up again, and annoyingly enough with no error messages.10:49
nagyvTheGateKeeper: yes, I understood this :), but isn't it possible that your mic is muted somehow?10:49
linux__alienhas anyone seen this error before ? i am unable to get flash working10:49
linux__aliensudo update-flashplugin10:49
linux__alienautomatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes10:49
linux__alienshould i change something?10:49
abattoirmorghanphoenix: adept doesnt handle interactivity(in a console), so for packages like flash, java etc., where you explicitly need to agree to a licence, its always better to use the cli.10:49
nagyvmorghanphoenix: did you look at Show Details? in my case it was asking to let him download the new packages10:50
abattoirlinux__alien: do you have dapper-backports/dapper-updates enabled?10:50
abattoir(assuming you are on dapper)10:50
linux__alienbackports is not enabled10:50
morghanphoenixyup, and I agreed, I keep my terminal big enough to render the dialogs.10:50
abattoirlinux__alien: i think adobe updated the flashplayer, and hence the link was broken... you might need to enable it to get the newer package...10:51
abattoirlinux__alien: or you could directly download the new package from adobe10:51
TheGateKeepernagyv: back in a couple of mins...10:51
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linux__alienabattoir, can you give me the link please for the new package ?10:51
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morghanphoenixI just got a new sources list so hopefully everything goes okay this time.10:52
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abattoirlinux__alien: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash10:52
morghanphoenixbut now there's 210 packages to be updated.10:52
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picsouhello10:54
morghanphoenix'ello10:54
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linux__alienHave you guys installed ubuntu and then installed Kubuntu-Desktop Package or have you installed Kubuntu itself ?10:57
morghanphoenixI installed ubuntu10:57
abattoirI installed kubuntu directly....10:57
morghanphoenixthen added x/kubuntu10:57
insanekanekubuntu directly here10:57
linux__alienbut they both are same right? or will there be any integration issues when you install Ubuntu and then install Kubuntu-Desktop?10:58
morghanphoenixnone that I've seen10:58
morghanphoenixhaving problems with xubuntu, but kubuntu's working great10:58
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morghanphoenixAnd I'm a total newbie10:59
rodhi, this is nothing to do with kubuntu, i'm just asking a favour, could someone try http://218.209.111.111/ and tell me if you can access it?  thanks so much!10:59
morghanphoenix2 weeks since I cussed out the microsoft support department and formatted my hard drive.11:00
picsouDo exist a ubuntu, version with fluxbox ?11:00
rodand how has the move been?11:00
icheyneIf I run a CLI application and press Ctrl-Z to exit, and then do a "top" command, I can see the original application still running. How can I exit without leaving it running?11:00
morghanphoenixgreat11:00
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morghanphoenixtook me a few hours to get my dvds and mp3s to play.11:01
rodcool, not too many problems?  anything you miss about windows?11:01
morghanphoenixa few days to figure out how to install deb packages right11:01
morghanphoenixUltima Online!11:01
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morghanphoenixThe only thing I miss11:01
TheGateKeepernagyv: well the irritating thing is I have gone into alsamixer & turned everything on, systems work fine under windows, so don't know why linux is being such an arse11:01
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rodyes.... games...  i know things are getting better, but there's still very little on linux11:02
nagyvTheGateKeeper: no idea11:02
morghanphoenixOh, and I haven't found a program yet to convert the bitrates of my mp3s11:02
icheynerod try Temulous11:02
rodlame!11:02
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morghanphoenixI need to drop the 256 & 320s down to 12811:02
TheGateKeepernagyv: that makes 2 or us :-)11:02
icheynemorghanphoenix: I found something the other day11:02
icheyneI'll look hang on11:02
morghanphoenixplease don't say mBox11:02
rodTemulous?11:02
icheynemorganphoenix: soundKonverter11:03
icheynerod: yes11:03
morghanphoenixThat does bitrate conversions?11:03
icheyneit's a fps11:03
icheynewith spiders against humans11:03
icheyneuses the quake 3 engine11:03
icheynemorghanphoenix: yes11:03
morghanphoenixARGH!11:03
icheynemorghanphoenix: it's not a good idea to transcode though11:03
icheyneif you have the time, it's better to rerip the CDs11:04
icheyneas you lose a lot of audio quality11:04
morghanphoenixI have that installed, been using it for ogg & wma to mp3 conversions11:04
rodoh cool!11:04
icheynemorghanphoenix: oh right well it works well for dropping bitrates too11:04
rodbut...  i run Xgl, will it work ok with that?  i thought 3d acceleration din't work under xgl?11:04
icheynerod: it is cool11:04
icheynerod: sorry I have avoided XGL11:05
morghanphoenixI have about 40 gigs of music that took up 10 last time I transfered them to my PC.11:05
icheynerod: I like to keep my sanity intact!11:05
rodicheyne: xgl is beautiful, and makes things so much nicer to use!11:05
morghanphoenixTurns out I was encoding at a variable bitrate that was way too high, I don't need anything over 128.11:05
icheynerod: You might be right - I'm just short on patience.11:05
sybuxHi, I'm looking for a linux application to replace my Microsoft Exchange server11:06
icheyneI tried a demo disk of it and it was cool11:06
icheyneok guys cya later11:06
icheyne:)11:06
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nagyvsybux: AFAIK there is no perfect alternative, but there are several things. I hav mainly heard of these 2: zimbra, open-Xchange11:09
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sybuxnagyv: thx I'll check for them11:10
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sybuxor another alternative : I'm using actualy postfix for mail. Which other application can I use to store calendar and contact. I also want to acces them via internet11:11
nagyvsybux: zimbra11:12
sybuxokay11:12
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morghanphoenixwhat do you mean about the loss of audio quality?11:14
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vega-vvatsa: nobody cares11:16
main2indeed vega11:16
abattoirvvatsa: i think you were already warned(and kicked) once before, pleae remove that away message11:16
main2!polite11:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about polite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:16
main2!friendly11:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about friendly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:16
abattoirmain2: for me? :P11:17
main2ubotu: **** my ****11:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about my **** - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:17
main2nahh, just in general =)11:17
morghanphoenixlol11:17
abattoir!away11:17
ubotuPlease don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines11:17
abattoirmain2: ^^^^ that might be more appropriate ;)11:18
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morghanphoenixis there a channel that deals with grub?11:20
fdoving#grub maybe?11:20
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linux__alienKubuntu-Desktop is being installed i am just waiting to log on to do that11:23
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haffeIs there any kind of approximation when hibernate will be in the default ubuntu kernel?11:24
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abattoir!away > vvatsa11:26
host-one__hi11:26
octan!paste11:26
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:26
host-one__wich program open the .sub file?11:27
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octanhello people11:27
abattoirhost-one__: i think those are subtitle files, i'd expect kaffeine to open them along w/ the video and give you the choice of using the subtitle11:27
octancan someone help me a bit..11:28
octanim trying to get a X app to work with ssh11:28
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octani mean i have ssh into my server and want to start a X app11:28
octanbut it doesnt start11:28
octanany one know how this works11:29
haffeX-forwarding?11:29
octanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2462911:29
octantake a look pls11:29
vincenzoSalve c' qualche Italiano11:29
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octangedit hangs for a while11:30
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octanthen i get this error11:30
octan(gedit:31178): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:11:30
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morghanphoenixSuggestions on a KDE program to deit partitions?11:31
morghanphoenix8edit11:31
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haffekpartet?11:31
octanhaffe got any ideas why it doesnt work?11:32
haffeNone whatsoever.11:32
octan:(11:32
haffeHave you enabled X-forwarding?11:32
octanyou didnt take a look did you11:32
octantake a look at my paste11:32
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host-one__abattoir: I don't think so, this .sub file is too big(30.7MB) a subtitle file is little(3MB max 5MB)11:34
ge2xi just installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu and i want to remove all the gnome apps how to do that?11:34
fdovingmorghanphoenix: qtparted11:34
morghanphoenixthanks11:35
ge2xi think i need to remove gtk or something - please help me out11:35
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ge2xhey how to remove gtk?11:37
fdovingge2x: sudo apt-get -s remove libgnome2-011:37
fdovingge2x: that will simulate removal of gnome.11:37
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ge2xthnx11:37
vincenzolazarus - impossible rebuild in gtk211:38
fdovingge2x: run it, and take notes on what applications you want to keep. Then write down the package names. and run the same command without the -s, that will actually remove the stuff. Then run 'sudo apt-get install <list of packages from your note>'11:38
ge2xfdoving it didnt remove the gnome apps from the k menu11:39
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ge2xohhh11:39
fdovingge2x: it just simulates.11:39
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fdovingge2x: it will probably remove programs you want to keep, so you'll have to re-install them after getting rid of gnome.11:39
ge2xi get the point ;D thnx11:40
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arunkaletoo bad i cant get xgl11:40
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nagyvarunkale: me neither :(, too bad for two :)11:43
arunkalenagyv: why cant u get it11:43
nagyvarunkale: because of an ATI Mobility Radeon 960011:43
arunkaleah11:44
arunkalei have an integrated video card11:44
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ge2xwhere can i get xorg sdk release11:45
ge2x?11:45
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linux__alienI ve installed Kubuntu-Desktop from Ubuntu but i am unable to play mp3s at all . In Gnome i am able to play everything but using amarok i am unable to play it11:45
abattoirlinux__alien: you have multiverse enabled?11:46
abattoiror did you have it enabled under Gnome?11:46
linux__alienyes i ve it enabled11:46
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abattoirlinux__alien: good, now install libxine-extracodecs... either through adept, or through apt-get11:47
abattoir!mp311:47
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:47
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abattoirlinux__alien: the first link is also helpful(if you run into trouble w/ other restricted formats)11:47
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Super_Cat_Froghi - im having to rebuild the nvidia drivers every boot - any ideas?11:50
Vegeta^Why is it that I almost always has to disable and re-enable my network interface before it will work (that is I can go online), after a computer reboot?11:51
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morghanphoenixkakarot sabotaged your computer?11:53
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TheGateKeepernagyv: well I have got my mic working :-)11:54
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Vegeta^hahahaha :D11:55
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GeneralZodSuper_Cat_Frog:Are you certain that you don't just need to modprobe the nvidia module?11:56
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marthi.  I wonder if someone could paste the fonts section of their xorg.conf file, please?11:56
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GeneralZodmart:This kind of thing? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2464111:59
martGeneralZod: exactly that kind of thing. thanks :)12:00
Super_Cat_FrogGeneralZod: yes, tried that12:00
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GeneralZodmart:You're welcome12:00
linux__alienMy icons are quite big when i open it in Konqueror12:00
linux__alienwhat do i do12:00
linux__alieni ve reduced the size of my icons from the System Control Center but still it looks big12:00
nagyvTheGateKeeper: so now you have also a working SIP phone?12:00
linux__alienThe icons on the Desktop look proper but when i open with Konqueror  it looks hugs12:00
linux__alienhuge12:00
GeneralZodSuper_Cat_Frog:That's odd.  I take it there's no errors when you modprobe it? Do you restart X after modprobing it?12:01
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arunkalehow do i view the number of words in a text file using kate?12:01
Super_Cat_Frogno, modprobe's fine12:01
GeneralZodSuper_Cat_Frog:Hmmmm...dunno, then.  Sorry :/12:01
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GeneralZodlinux__alien:Have you changed them in Konqueror? View->Icon Size->...12:03
zorglu_q. when i do "ssh myotherhost top", ssh replies "TERM environment variable not set.", any idea how to fix that ?12:03
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main2anyone succesfully built vlc 0.8.5?12:09
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nagyvTheGateKeeper: what is your problem now that the mic works?12:12
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TheGateKeepernagyv: well I would have if ekiga could reach a remote ost12:13
TheGateKeepernagyv: ekiga cannot connect to remote host12:13
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linux__alienGeneralZod, yes changed it thanks12:14
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tmdx120Im trying to reconfigure my wireless router (westell 327w) how do I set up wep?12:15
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TheGateKeepernagyv: looking here as it's reporting "Symmetric NAT" http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3&pos=0&faqpage=x161.html12:15
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linux__alienI ve installed Kubuntu-Desktop but can i write my QT applications and compile it ? or should i install some separate packages ?12:18
tmdx120Hello.  Im trying to reconfigure my wireless router (westell 327w) how do I set up wep?12:19
fdovinglinux__alien: you need more apps then.12:19
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linux__alienfdoving, but when i do an apt-get update it does not show any updates with respect to KDE  ? why  is that? should i enable some repositories ?12:20
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fdovinglinux__alien: if you want to develop qt3 programs you need: libqt3-mt-dev, atleast.12:20
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fdovinglinux__alien: for qt4, you need: libqt4-dev atleast.12:20
fdovinglinux__alien: there is also 'qt3-designer12:21
fdoving and qt4-designer12:21
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fdovingand qt3-assistant12:21
morghanphoenixhow do I set my USB hard drive to always mount as sda1?12:21
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linux__alienThanks but if there are updates available in QT and KDE those updates are not being shown when i do an apt-get update so should i add separate repositories for KDE ?12:21
fdovingmorghanphoenix: mount as /media/sda1?12:22
fdovinglinux__alien: the default ones should do just fine. but you won't get bleeding edge software. You get security updates basically.12:23
morghanphoenixit automounts, and does it at random places, once it even mounted as the name of my hard drive, and when I remove it it still shows up in media despite the fact it's not there anymore.12:23
fdovinglinux__alien: you can look at kubuntu.org for newer KDE packages iof you want.12:23
nagyvTheGateKeeper: sorry, but I am really not an ekiga expert. Are you sure that it's a nat problem? I have read somewhere that you have to give a different SIP proxy, because the free ekiga.net doesn't work properly.12:23
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fdovingmorghanphoenix: i strongly recommend reading this: http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html12:24
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fdovingmorghanphoenix: it's really good and you learn alot.12:24
morghanphoenixthanks.12:25
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morghanphoenixOoh, and it's even all on the same page.12:25
fdovinghave to go. visiting inlaws.12:26
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fdovingbye.12:26
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TheGateKeepernagyv: you may well be right, I wish I knew what settings it wanted12:26
XTorchedXi want mozilla12:26
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XTorchedXhow do i install firefox12:27
morghanphoenixapt-get install firefox?12:27
abattoiryup, 'sudo apt-get install firefox'12:27
abattoir!info firefox12:27
ubotufirefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-ubuntu0.6.06 (dapper), package size 7739 kB, installed size 22928 kB12:27
tuxor add/remove programs?12:28
nagyvfdoving: whoooo, there is a much simpler description in the Ubuntu User's Guide (or something similar) published by O'Reilly12:28
morghanphoenixEveryone should try opera12:28
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XTorchedXyeah opera will do actually12:28
linux__alienfdoving, This is what i ve in sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2464212:28
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XTorchedXsudo apt-get install opera?12:28
linux__alienis this Ok?12:28
Apathy_86why can't i close the error messages when azureus shows something like "cannot connect upn error"?12:28
morghanphoeniximho opera is as much better than firefox as firefox is better than ie12:29
nagyvTheGateKeeper: register a wengophone account, and then I will help you to set up ekiga. If it still won't work, then it can be a NAT problem.12:29
frankm_yes but firefox its beter12:30
frankm_*better12:30
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TheGateKeeperok I'll give it a try12:32
morghanphoenix!lynx12:32
ubotuBrowsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK), Opera (Qt), Konqueror (KDE/Qt), Links (terminal-based). HTTP servers: apache212:32
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linux__alienfdoving, Is my Soures.list ok ?12:32
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josh_other then easy sources.... where can i find a list of repos?12:35
josh_also... im using konqueror but gmail is asking for active x to be enabled... where is that located?12:36
morghanphoenixhow do I use that paste thing so I don't flood the chanel?12:37
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josh_!pastebin12:37
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:37
martjosh_: have you changed the browser identification?12:37
luca_bjosh_: You need to change your User AGent for gmail12:37
abattoirlinux__alien: i dont think he is here12:37
luca_bjosh_: Konqueror works fine but Gmail thinks it doesn't12:37
intelikeyeeek  eeek eeek  eeeky eeeky   i can't get on line.12:37
martjosh_: try setting it to safari.12:37
abattoirjosh_: it really asks for 'ActiveX' ?? try changing the Browser ID to firefox12:38
intelikeyi need some way to find out what module i need to modprobe to access my modem.   anyone got a clue-by-four  ?12:38
abattoirjosh_: tools->Change Browser Identification...12:38
intelikeyi get error  ttyS0 is busy.12:39
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morghanphoenixokay, got it pasted, I get that every time I install or update anything.12:40
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josh_nope... still asking for active x12:41
morghanphoenixany ideas what's going wrong with the flash player update?12:42
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luca_bmorghanphoenix: there is an error in the post-installation script12:45
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luca_bmorghanphoenix: you can either fix it or apt-get update, there is a new package12:45
luca_bmorghanphoenix: if you handle command line, I can tell you where to fix it12:45
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morghanphoenixyakuake is up12:46
morghanphoenixKonsole open12:47
luca_bmorghanphoenix: sudo kate/vi/emacs/whatever /var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.postinst12:47
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luca_blook for the line that says something like update-rc.d <something> multiuser12:48
morghanphoenixwtf?12:48
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morghanphoenixI coppied it and it opened lynx12:48
luca_bmorghanphoenix: only the path?12:49
luca_bmorghanphoenix: I didn't put a single editor because I didn't know what you'd use12:49
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morghanphoenixah, my fault12:49
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martwhat's a sensible file system for a flash disk?12:49
luca_bmorghanphoenix: in any case, just edit that file, look for a line that says update-rc.d followed by something then multiuser12:50
morghanphoenixI'm running on jolt at the moment.12:50
luca_bmorghanphoenix: and replace "multiuser" with "defaults"12:50
martoh, ext3, forgot about that.12:50
main2could adding the debian-sid repository to my sources.list give problems?12:51
luca_bmain2: definitely12:51
main2(as in 'you shouldnt do that.....')12:51
main2luca_b: ahhh k.. i would like to use vlc from their repos12:51
martmain2: but you can normally get away with adding debian sid deb-src lines.12:52
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main2because all available versions for dapper (0.8.4 && 0.85) are broken12:52
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morghanphoenixreplaced12:52
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martmain2: and then building the packages you need from the debian source.12:52
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main2mart: so after ive added the deb-src to my repost list, where do i continue?12:53
main2(i know how to install tarballs etc)12:53
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martapt-get update ;apt-get source vlc12:53
main2ok12:53
morghanphoenixNow what do I do? run it again?12:53
XTorchedX!mp312:53
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:53
Brophohello12:54
Brophoim bored out of my brain again12:55
XTorchedXhi12:55
morghanphoenixI wish my iPod would support free formats.12:55
XTorchedXdude, you logged onto irc as an astral projection?1?!12:55
XTorchedXor are you actually still in your brain12:55
Brophowhat12:55
XTorchedXhi12:55
Brophoare u hi12:55
XTorchedXNo, i'm XTorchedX12:56
Brophook then!?!?!12:56
Bropho???????????/12:56
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Bropho(!)12:57
XTorchedXhi12:57
Bropho!12:57
martmain2: there are quite a lot of dependencies for vlc...12:57
Bropho!Im bored12:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Im bored - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:57
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Bropho!brains nore do i have any12:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about brains nore do i have any - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:58
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Brophofunny12:59
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morghanphoenix!emacs12:59
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code12:59
main2mart: yeah there are...12:59
Bropho!sex12:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:59
main2can anyone kick that Bropho guy?01:00
main2!admins01:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about admins - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:00
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Brophowhat thats funny01:00
Bropho!01:00
Bropho!!01:00
cangohelp my adept dont run01:00
cangohelp my adept dont run01:01
Bropho!lfs01:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:01
cango!adept01:01
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto01:01
Bropho!linux from scracth01:01
ubotulinux: Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.25 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB01:02
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Bropho!linux from scrach01:02
Bropho!linux from scratch01:02
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MenZaThere is no article.01:02
Bropho!love01:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about love - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:02
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Bropho!sucking but i know i do01:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sucking but i know i do - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:03
morghanphoenix!nano01:04
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code01:04
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luca_bwooops01:04
luca_bwent afk without telling anyone01:04
luca_bmorghanphoenix: did the thing work with flash player?01:04
morghanphoenixthanks luca, it worked01:04
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main2mart: any idea about what the url is for the repos.. ? (for SID)01:04
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luca_bmorghanphoenix: if you apt-get update you'll get another package that should have that fixed, I think01:04
Bropho!having sex because im a 40 yr old vergin01:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about having sex because im a 40 yr old vergin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:05
cangohelp me for adept01:05
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martmain2: deb-src http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main01:05
marter, that's a UK one.01:05
main2how can you do that so fast?01:05
morghanphoenixstop making fun of the poor bot01:05
morghanphoenixit's just doing it's job01:05
martmain2: the delights of copy and paste....01:05
luca_bthe only debian package I ever used on Kubuntu is R01:05
main2im dutch mart, but a uk one is fine for this one time ....01:05
Brophowhat its funny01:05
main2=)01:05
cangohelp me for adept01:05
nagyvcango: did you just made an update?01:05
cangonagyv: yeah01:06
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morghanphoenixany suggestions as to a good tutourial for installing from source?01:06
nagyvcango: and you also tried to update flashplayer?01:06
cangonagyv: yeah01:06
nagyvmorghanphoenix: the readme and install files in the source tarball01:06
nagyvcango: is it still running or you have killed the process?01:07
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Bropho!Bropho being bored because i dont know what its like being stuck indoors on a wet day a bloody boring town with the stinkin population of about 60001:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Bropho being bored because i dont know what its like being stuck indoors on a wet day a bloody boring town with the stinkin population of about 600 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:07
cangonagyv: yeah01:07
morghanphoenixTry running dkpg -a01:07
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morghanphoenixthat's what fixed it for me01:07
morghanphoenixmy adpet didn't work earlier after doing the flash update01:07
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Bropho!google01:08
ubotugoogle is a very popular search engine, http://www.google.com01:08
Bropho!fruit01:08
ubotufruit: chess engine, to calculate chess moves. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1-2 (dapper), package size 457 kB, installed size 776 kB01:08
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morghanphoenix!telnet01:09
ubotutelnet is not safe. Please use ssh instead. See !ssh01:09
morghanphoenix!ssh01:09
ubotussh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/01:09
main2mart: i did what you said (also ran update) but i gets the package from the wrong place it seems01:09
Bropho!vegitables01:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vegitables - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:09
main2Moet 12,6MB aan bronarchieven ophalen.01:09
main2Ophalen:1 http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe vlc 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (tar)01:09
morghanphoenixARGH!01:09
martmain2: how do you mean, the wrong place?01:09
nagyvcango: which one? running or killed?01:09
main2mart: Ophalen:1 http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe vlc << doesnt look like debian.. ?01:09
cangonagyv: killed01:09
morghanphoenixhmm, ssh? will that let me connect to MUDs like telnet?01:09
martmain2: oh, you did do apt-get update first?01:10
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main2yep01:10
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martand apt-get source vlc?  not install...01:10
Bropho!hotmail01:10
ubotuIf you must use this microsoft product, consider hotway: hotwayd/hotsmtpd are POP3/SMTP-HTTPMail gateway daemons, also works for lycos spray and msn01:10
main2mart: yep01:10
Bropho!microsoft01:10
ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm01:10
main2mart: stupid me, didnt click 'apply' repos in adept01:10
main2sorry01:10
nagyvcango: run this sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock01:11
morghanphoenixIf I ignore bropho will it stop his !s01:11
cangonagyv: some codes for reset adept i lost them01:11
nagyvcango: and then try to run again adept-updater01:11
polo3how i register mi nick?01:11
polo3pleasse01:11
Bropho!windows01:11
ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm01:11
nagyvif adept seems to have crashed click on the show details button01:11
nagyvcango ^^^^^01:11
Brophomental heath01:11
morghanphoenix /msg nickserv help01:11
polo3thanks01:11
martor /ns help if you're lazy :)01:11
cangonagyv: some codes like dpkg --a01:11
Bropho!the simpsons01:12
ubotuthe: Full-screen character mode text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-4 (dapper), package size 277 kB, installed size 796 kB01:12
Bropho!simpsons01:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about simpsons - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:12
nagyvcango: run this: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock01:12
main2mart: now after getting the source, i have to compile it myself - do i see that right?01:12
Bropho!bored01:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bored - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:12
cangonagyv: thanx01:12
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Bropho!kitkat01:12
main2Bropho: get lost- ur doing nothing than bothering people01:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kitkat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:12
main2!mods01:12
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main2!admin01:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mods - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:12
martmain2: yeah, you need build-essential probably devscripts01:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about admin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:12
cangonagyv: some codes like dpkg --a what is that01:13
martTm_T and crimsun are ops.01:13
main2mart: already got those =)01:13
Brophoit helps me with my bordem so shutup01:13
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main2mart: but i tought that it maybe would be possible to install it using apt01:13
nagyvdpkg --help will tell you (i think it is about to reconfigure all the pendign packages)01:13
nagyvcango: ^^^^^01:13
Bropho!bordem01:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bordem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:13
Bropho!shutup01:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about shutup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:13
martmain2: not if you have to build it.  try apt-get builddep vlc  ?01:13
Bropho!broadband01:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about broadband - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:14
Bropho!ubotu01:14
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage01:14
Bropho!information01:14
main2mart: sudo apt-get builddep vlc01:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about information - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:14
cangonagyv: i ask a question to u01:14
morghanphoenixno ops on?01:15
Bropho!01:15
XTorchedX!java01:15
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository01:15
main2mart non valid operation01:15
martmorghanphoenix: am working on it :)01:15
martmain2: apt-get build-dep ...01:15
polo3somebody know TCL?01:15
martadd a dash.01:15
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Bropho!goodbye01:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about goodbye - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:15
nagyvcango: what question?01:15
cangonagyv: when i want do download opera adept some error i see. what is that01:15
cangonagyv: when i want do download opera adept some error i see. what is that01:15
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cangonagyv: when i want do download opera with adept some error i see. what is that01:16
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MenZaYodaspeak!01:16
nagyvcango: try to intall it from the command line. Open a Konsole windows and write: sudo apt-get install opera01:16
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main2mart: build-dep cannot be 'fullfilled' because package 'xulrunner' is unfindable01:17
morghanphoenixI was scared of the command line a few hours ago, but fixing all the problems I've been having has forced me to use it and I'm starting to like it.01:17
luca_bmorghanphoenix: it rocks, I can tell you that01:18
morghanphoenixI loved DOS01:18
luca_bmorghanphoenix: if you have the patience to learn, you can do a lot of things01:18
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luca_b_lunchaway for lunch01:18
morghanphoenixWhere is it lunch time? Not even breakfast time here.01:19
martmain2: you could build xulrunner ....01:19
jpgeeretshi folks01:19
jpgeeretsi have a mount Q01:19
jpgeeretssomeone?01:19
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morghanphoenix!SSH01:19
ubotussh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/01:19
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morghanphoenixthanks for the link little buddy01:20
nagyvjpgeerets: if you don't ask it, then noone will help you :)01:20
jpgeeretslol, ok01:20
main2mart: looking my ass off, on where to get it01:20
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main2:d01:20
martmain2: just apt-get source that too :)01:20
jpgeeretswhen i connect my external HD (usb) is will be mount as read-oonly01:20
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jpgeeretsnormaly is was mount as read/write01:20
main2mart: ahhh damnit :D01:21
jpgeeretssomeone know how this is possible?01:21
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main2couldnt find it trough adept..01:21
main2or on google.....01:21
jpgeeretsbu system update perhaps?01:21
nathsalut01:21
nathbonjour01:21
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martmain2: edgy, etch/sid only.01:21
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nathje besoin aide01:21
edudfgfdgfdgfdg01:21
morghanphoenixokay, ssh, can it be used to log into MUDs in the console like telnet?01:22
nagyv!fr01:22
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:22
martno, you want telnet for that :)01:22
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nagyvjpgeerets: no idea, isn't it something with the HD?01:23
nathubotu:  jai besion aide dur linux6201:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jai besion aide dur linux62 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:23
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jpgeeretswhat you mean <nagyv>?01:24
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nagyvnath: ubotu est lo moteur d'aide, ici on parle anglais, #kubuntu-fr on parle francais01:24
nathokays thank01:24
jpgeeretsit worked for a long time01:24
morghanphoenixWoo Hoo! Mudding in my console.01:24
nathyou01:24
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jpgeeretswhen i look with ls -l, it only shows r.x...............01:24
jpgeeretsfor owner01:25
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jpgeeretswhen i tryed, as root, chmod 777 <map>, it fails01:25
nagyvjpgeerets: I don't know what kind of external HD is that, but it happens that there is a small switch to make them only readable.01:25
martjpgeerets: is this an ntfs disk?01:25
jpgeeretsit tells its only readonly01:25
jpgeeretsit's a maxtor, type II01:26
jpgeeretsnormaly this works fine01:26
jpgeeretsuntil a few weeks ago01:26
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jpgeeretshow can i check what fileformat is used?01:27
jpgeeretsperhaps someone convert it to ntfs, without telling me.....01:27
m3xicanhi01:28
m3xicanwhat a headache...01:28
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martjpgeerets: it's all the signs of being ntfs. :(01:28
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martjpgeerets: running mount will say.01:28
jpgeeretsdamnt! your r totaly right mart!01:29
jpgeeretsrunning mount tels me next:01:29
jpgeeretstype ntfs....01:29
jpgeeretsbrrrrrr01:30
jpgeeretsstupid me, that im not thinking about this...01:30
jpgeeretsand i guess there still is not a good way to write ntfs.....?01:30
martjpgeerets: not usefully, no. :(01:30
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morghanphoenix#terminal01:37
morghanphoenix!chanel01:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about chanel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:38
morghanphoenix!channel01:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about channel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:39
morghanphoenixargh!01:39
martoh, don't you start!01:39
morghanphoenixI'm trying to find out how to list all the channels01:39
morghanphoenixlooking for something dealing with console01:39
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morghanphoenixI'm very new to irc01:40
Buffy^./list01:40
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morghanphoenix./list01:40
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Buffy^oh ./chanlist01:40
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Buffy^yeah its list01:40
morghanphoenixthar she be01:40
morghanphoenixthanks01:40
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Buffy^no worries01:41
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cango_nagyv: my adept preparing itself slowly after downloading01:43
morghanphoenixooh, that's a big list01:43
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cango_nagyv: what can i do01:44
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cango_nagyv: now setup j2rel.401:44
nagyvcango_: click on the show details button01:45
nagyvcango_: it probably need some user input (you have to type yes or no :) )01:45
jpgeeretsok, great folks, thanks for the help01:46
Buffy^<301:46
cango_nagyv:01:47
cango_Paketler nyaplandrlyor ...01:47
cango_j2re1.4 yaplandrlyor01:47
cango_------------------------01:47
cango_             Sun Microsystems, Inc.01:47
cango_[Daha] 01:47
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zorglu_!paste01:47
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:47
nagyvcango_: ^^^^^^^^^ it's for you I think :)01:47
zorglu_yep :)01:48
cango_nagyv: what can i do01:48
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nagyvcango_: sorry but I don't speak swedish(?)01:48
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nagyvcango_: translate me the last sentence :)01:48
cango_nagyv: j2rel.4 setting up01:49
cango_nagyv: it's Turkish01:49
nagyvcango_: [Daha]  = ?01:49
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cango_[More] 01:49
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cango_nagyv: [More] 01:50
nagyvcango_: yesssss, I speak turkish! :)01:50
steve_SiS SI7012 isnt working with dapper?!01:50
nagyvcango_: click enter :)01:50
cango_nagyv: ne anladn peki01:50
martwell, if there's one thing kubuntu has going for it - it's that chinese and japanese spam is a lot prettier in kubuntu than it is in Debian...01:50
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steve_module loads fine /proc looks ok but no sound01:50
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nagyvcango_: you are welcome01:50
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cango_nagyv: click where01:51
nagyvcango_: in the console like window, where you see [Daha] 01:51
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zorglu_mart: how good is the translation in those languages ?01:52
steve_nobody with a SiS SI7012?01:52
zorglu_mart: i mean the coverage and the quality01:52
zorglu_steve_: this is very specific :) have you googled for it ?01:52
steve_yes, should work01:52
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martzorglu_: uh, pretty good I think.01:52
zorglu_usualy those issue are related to X driver more that ubuntu itself01:53
cango_Sun Microsystems, Inc.  [Daha] 01:53
zorglu_mart: cool :)01:53
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nagyvcango_: does it work?01:53
zorglu_steve_: well look at the X output to see how it react01:53
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cango_no it's %001:53
martzorglu_: I don't think docs are translated much but GUI I think is.01:53
steve_alsa,  SiS SI7012 is sound ;)01:53
arcasaHey... I forgot what the terminal command is to run a .bz2... Please remind me :P01:53
cango_nagyv: no it's %001:54
kyaneoskpersonalizer starts everytime i login01:54
kyaneosi need help please01:54
steve_arcasa: apt-get install unp ...01:54
zorglu_steve_: ah ok :) so it may be more related to arts/alsa and stuff01:54
martzorglu_: http://l10n.kde.org/stats/gui/stable/zh_HK/index.php http://l10n.kde.org/stats/gui/stable/zh_CN/index.php http://l10n.kde.org/stats/gui/stable/zh_TW/index.php01:54
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martHong Kong is pretty bad :(01:54
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cango_nagyv: no it's %001:55
zorglu_mart: thanks :) it was just out of curiosity tho :)01:55
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nagyvcango_: what is 0%?01:55
kyaneoswhat can i do?01:55
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cango_nagyv: my preparing is %001:55
zorglu_mart: hongkong is not mandarin or english ? i mean they got their own language ?01:55
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nagyvcango_: click with your mouse over doho (just to give focus to it), and then click an Enter01:55
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zorglu_ok i should work more :)01:55
nagyvcango_: as if you would like to read more (daha)01:56
martzorglu_: as far as I understand, mandarin is a spoken language - the languages they speak over there don't seem to  correlate with their written language ...01:56
kyaneosi have a problem: kpersonalizer appears everytime i log into kde01:56
martkyaneos: yes, you said :)01:56
kyaneosxDD ok sorry01:56
TheGateKeeper_when you use apt-get, how do remove the application AND all the dependencies that it installed?01:56
jpgeerets_folks, another Q.01:56
nagyvkyaneos: delete it!01:56
jpgeerets_i logged in to my server with ssh.01:56
cango_nagyv: i'm sorry but i dont understand01:57
kyaneosnagyv: kpersonalizer?01:57
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jpgeerets_want to try install a program, with ./configure01:57
jpgeerets_it told me there is no compiler01:57
jpgeerets_so i install: sudo apt-get isntall gcc01:57
jpgeerets_this installed gcc01:57
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jpgeerets_when running ./configure, next error appears:01:58
TheGateKeeper_jpgeerets_: yes but install build-essential01:58
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jpgeerets_checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables01:58
jpgeerets_ok, i try01:58
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nagyvcango_: join the #ubuntu-classroom channel I will help you there01:59
jpgeerets_great TheGateKeeper, this workd!02:00
jpgeerets_tnx!02:00
nagyvkyaneos: yes, if you don't need it02:00
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arcasaSo I just downloaded libvisual plugins as a .tar.bz202:01
arcasaAnd I'm kinda stumped as to what to do with it.02:01
arcasaPlease help02:01
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zorglu_"tar xvjf yourfilename.tar.bz2" will extract the content of the.tar.bz2 in the current directory02:02
rainerhhello perhaps somebody can help. i'm using a german keyboard and want to use the -chars in emacs. They workd perfectly in kde and konsole but in emacs it seems there's a problem...02:03
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arcasaSo once I have my files extracted... What do I do?02:03
zorglu_dunno depends on the content on it :)02:04
morghanphoenixhow do you drop su when you're done using it in konsole?02:04
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arcasalibvisual plugins02:04
martmorghanphoenix: Ctrl-D02:04
zorglu_you should use the .deb pacakage if you can, much easier02:04
morghanphoenixThanks02:04
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arcasahttp://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=10654202:04
arcasaThey're all .tar.bz2's02:04
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SurgerWhere can I get help on k3b? The #k3b channel is dead.02:05
SkrotHi. I've got a weird one.. I cant "reboot" or "halt" my laptop. Regardless root privs. (su -, sudo, myself). Any ideas where I start to debug this? I have been messig around with sysv's so that might be it02:05
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zorglu_Skrot: no error message or indication of where it stops02:07
zorglu_Skrot: ?02:07
Skrotzorglu_: No. It just does the usual "Seding kill signal to all processes" or whatever, and then it stops02:07
zorglu_Skrot: you should look toward the acpi stuff, like trying to boot with the option "acpi=off"02:08
SkrotI'm used to getting some sort of feedback on which services are stopped etc02:08
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nagyvSkrot: I had the same problem two days ago. With a root user I have loggen in to tty1, and it worked from there.02:08
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zorglu_Skrot: hue surprising indeed... and nothing after this "kill all process" ?02:08
Skrotzorglu_: nuffin. Unless I use halt, it will eventually say "system is halted" but nothing more02:08
arcasaWhen I run strenuous programs (i.e Steam, CS....) My computer randomly switches off.02:08
zorglu_Skrot: tried to close all apps before calling 'reboot' ?02:09
zorglu_Skrot: maybe an apps refusing to be killed02:09
morghanphoenixhow do you specify a directory with a spac in it on command line?02:09
Skrotyes02:09
Skrotas I said, I think it happend after I messed around with sysv's.. any way to restore them?02:10
zorglu_Skrot: oh ok :)02:10
SkrotMr. smartypants (me) was trying to optimize the bootup speed :p02:10
zorglu_Skrot: like to reinstall it ? :)02:10
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martmorghanphoenix: stick it in quotes "02:10
SkrotNot particulary02:10
zorglu_Skrot: ok i dunno how to restore all the init.d02:11
SkrotI've spent the last days tweaking everything to have it the way I like it :)02:11
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zorglu_Skrot: i guess you dont have the backup of the previous conf ?02:11
Skrotnope :|02:11
Skrotbut shutdown/restart isn't that big a deal, would just be neat to have it working02:11
zorglu_Skrot: hmm sorry i dont see what to do02:11
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morghanphoenixmedia/sdb1/my music, where do the quotes go?02:12
martyou could just purge and re-install all packages that put files in init.d02:12
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mart"media/sdb1/my music" or /med<TAB>/sdb1/my<TAB>02:13
nagyvSkrot: there is a command to switch to runlevelX, try that one02:13
Skrotrunlever 0, thats halt right?02:13
Skrotlevel*02:13
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Skrotmagnus@frigg:~$ sudo runlevel 002:13
Skrotunknown02:13
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SkrotThat can't be healthy?02:14
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|GaiJin|what ftp server does people prefer??02:15
martthe one with the best bandwidth?02:16
nagyvSkrot: it can happen that your PATH is set up wrong try /sbin/halt02:16
|GaiJin|I was kinda thinking to install for myself to use....02:16
morghanphoenixNow I see, caps have to match, got it.02:16
morghanphoenixthanks02:16
luca_bnagyv: isn't init the command to change runlevel?02:17
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martthere's also telinit - needlessly compilicated :(02:17
luca_bmart: agreed02:17
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Skrot/sbin/halt did halt my computer :)02:20
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SkrotBut "whereis" halt returns /sbin/halt..02:20
heinkel_111anyone has a recommendation for audacity-like KDE application?02:20
zorglu_Skrot: "sudo which halt" ?02:20
heinkel_111sound editing02:20
Skrot/sbin/halt02:20
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martheinkel_111: nope, sorry.02:20
zorglu_Skrot: ...02:21
Skrotzorglu_: yeah02:21
martheinkel_111: I nearly wrote one because of it ...02:21
zorglu_heinkel_111: kde-apps.org may be of help02:21
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heinkel_111:(02:21
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morghanphoenixWoo Hoo! Command Line Mp3 playback!02:22
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morghanphoenixI know I sound like an idiot, but once I god over my fear of the command line I want to figure out how to do everything in terminal.02:23
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zorglu_keyboard is like a mouse with a lot of button :)02:24
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morghanphoenixeverything is working once I figure out the syntax, lot better than windows would at a prompt.02:25
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morghanphoenixI think I'm falling in love with linux, don't tell my fiance, okay?02:26
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zezellesalut a vpos02:26
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zorglu_!fr02:26
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.02:26
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scionlads what a good ftp client? kasablanca is rubbish!02:27
martkonqueror.02:27
scionmart: i'll give it a go02:28
SurgergFTP02:28
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morghanphoenixI use kftp02:28
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voicuHow do I setup my computer as a gateway?02:28
zorglu_out of curiosity, why do you use ftp and not http to transfert ?02:28
SuperSubcan anyone assist with grub error 18 on boot up????02:28
Surgerzorglu_: FTP is a more efficient protocol for file transfers - probably why it's still used.02:29
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zorglu_SuperSub: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB#Error_1802:30
morghanphoenixthat, and some sites only support ftp.02:30
SuperSubthx02:30
martis it really more efficient?02:30
SurgerYes02:30
marthow?02:30
zorglu_Surger: what is 'more efficient' ?02:30
SurgerThe FTP protocol - less overhead IIRC02:30
martless overhead per unit payload.02:30
martI don't see how it could be.  HTTP just streams, and streams, and then stops.02:31
zorglu_well the overhead of both is negligable :)02:31
zorglu_exect if you transfert a lot of very small file :)02:31
martthen HTTP is still more efficient :)02:31
zorglu_but ftp has the access control which is not in http02:31
marthttp has access control too :)02:32
zorglu_not in practice :)02:32
martsure it does.02:32
zorglu_all the access control, the 2 password scheme and the ssl, are pigged back on it02:32
martthink webdav.02:32
zorglu_and it is hard or impossible to use in practice02:33
zorglu_let me rephrase02:33
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martzorglu_: right, but if you care about passwords, you shouldn't be using ftp.02:33
voicuanyone here using valknut? if so, i'd like to know if you also get low speeds on the network02:33
zorglu_as the access is mainly done for interactive use thru a browser, it create trouble to use in practice the access control in another context02:34
morghanphoenixany idea why my speakers buzz?02:34
morghanphoenixIs this a sound driver issue?02:34
zorglu_like 'i will do https but only accept those CA and do that in python' no trivial :)02:34
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martzorglu_: sensible ftp isn't exactly trivial...02:35
zorglu_mart: i do agree :) but more widespread as it is there from the begining02:35
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zorglu_mart: in fact im not defending ftp, i more complaingin about http :) as i hit its issues quite often :)02:36
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morghanphoenixseems like bittorrent is getting pretty popular for file transfer too, I've seen several servers set up just to handle bittorrents of thier iso files.02:37
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martI've never used it.02:38
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SurgerThe problem is a lot of ISPs are now blocking or slowing BitTorrent transfers down. I doubt BT will ever become main stream.02:38
martit doesn't work with proxies either.02:39
zorglu_yep because bt is not client/server so it cost the upload to the isp02:39
morghanphoenixCan you include subfolder in a *.mp3 command?02:40
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zorglu_but bt people are playing cat/mouse game with isp to avoid this. there is some scrambling mechanism to avoid being recognize as bt and then not to be slown down02:40
martmorghanphoenix: rephrase in english, please :)02:40
morghanphoenixYeah, my ISP is supposed to block slow bittorrents but I still get 600 down and 100 up.02:40
slow-motionhallo02:40
zorglu_morghanphoenix: mymp3_player `find . -name "*.mp3` :)02:41
grotheskIs cgwd gone in those xgl repositories?02:41
zorglu_cmdline are powerfull but may become ugly quite fast :)02:41
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morghanphoenixlike an artist/album setup where I want to play all files by an artist.02:41
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morghanphoenixI should probably just make an m3u playlist for each artist.02:42
morghanphoenixApologies for all the wierd questions, but once I get on something I want to know how everything works.02:43
voicuwell, what you want needs a player that also reads from mp3 tags and such02:43
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voicui looked a lot for a command line music player02:43
voicunone suited my needs02:44
morghanphoenixI'm using mpg123 at the moment02:44
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aes52anyone used the alternate CD here?02:44
voicuif i manage that and a command line video player i can get rid of the gui :D02:44
martis that like the Open CD?02:44
morghanphoenixYeah, videos would be nice, that's what scares me about switching distros.02:45
olivermorghanphoenix: sorry, didnt catch all of your conv, but have u tried "amarok"02:45
morghanphoenixI know I can get everything to work the way I want it with kubuntu02:45
morghanphoenixyeah, it's my GUI music player02:45
morghanphoenixI'm looking for a command line player02:45
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mart$ du -hs .kde02:46
mart411M    .kde02:46
voicuand maybe an equivalent of katapult in command line02:46
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voicuyou could do anything from the cmd02:46
olivermorghanphoenix: any special reason, or are u hardcore linux guy02:46
martthat's a lot to put over a 1Mb/s link :(02:46
martvoicu: you mean tab completion ;)02:47
voicumart, not exactly02:47
morghanphoenixI'm stuck on the command line at the moment, I've been scared of it for two weeks, finally had to use it because something broke, and now I can't seem to stop trying to make everything work without the gui02:47
morghanphoenixNo, I'm a total newbie, only been using linux for two weeks02:47
voicui mean something like 'do play -s artist='x' track='title''02:47
morghanphoenixI just get obsessed really easy02:47
martsomeone give him emacs.02:48
olivercmdlinejunkee :-)02:48
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martwell, I think I've reconverted back to debian :)02:48
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martafter rebooting my machine last night, and finding that the USB keyboard and X server had stopped working in dapper. :(02:49
tom_need a bit of help getting codecs working02:49
voicumart, i like debian better but it has a very slow release cycle02:49
voicutom_: like mpeg codecs?02:50
martvoicu: am on testing for now.02:50
tom_downloaded the codecs package for mplayer, put them in the right dir, but not sure what i need to do next02:50
tom_yes voicu02:50
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morghanphoenixIs it normal to have problems using su in kubuntu?02:50
voicutom_: you should sudo aptitude, and look for lib-mpeg or something02:51
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tom_tried that before, not sure why but it messed up...02:51
voiculibmpeg that is02:51
morghanphoenixI couldn't use it untill I changed my root password, now it workd fine.02:51
martmorghanphoenix: yes, since there is no root password.02:51
tom_this is with edgy knot 3 btw02:51
mart(by default)02:51
voicutom_: what happened?02:51
morghanphoenixah, so changing the root enabled it.02:52
voicumorghanphoenix: that's because kubuntu doesn't have a root account by default02:52
voicusudo uses the password of the admin02:52
voicusu uses the root password02:52
voicui think02:52
martwell, it has a root account, it just doesn't have a p/w.02:52
tom_actually, it's libmpeg i tried, it was libxine02:52
voicumart, well, yeah02:53
tom_mpeg actually work, but without sound02:53
voicutom_: did you install libxine-extracodecs?02:53
tom_this is what i get for libxine in adept installer02:53
cango_help i download opera stable with adept but i cant find it02:53
tom_http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1iu1.jpg02:53
voicuyou don't get them from the repositories. you have to download them from packages.ubuntu.com02:53
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tom_hmm02:54
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voicucango_: log out and log back in, it should appear in the menu02:54
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tom_i think i used terminal to install libxine, but it messed up somehow02:54
voicuif not, try to run opera in a konsole02:54
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voicutom_: did you get an error?02:54
tom_i think so yes02:55
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voicuwell, what was it?02:55
tom_don't remember, sorry02:55
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tom_here:02:56
TheGateKeeper_anyone done the firefox & amarok updates?02:56
voicutom_: do this sudo apt-get install libxine-main102:57
morghanphoenixamaroK, I removed firefox.02:57
scionTheGateKeeper_: not yet02:57
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morghanphoenixI use opera, and as of tody lynx.02:57
tom_i get02:57
tom_The following packages have unmet dependencies:02:57
tom_  libk3b2-mp3: Depends: libmad0 (>= 0.15.1b) but it is not installable02:57
morghanphoenix*today02:57
voicuthen download that http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmultiverse%2Fx%2Fxine-extracodecs%2Flibxine-extracodecs_1.1.1%2Bubuntu1-2_i386.deb&md5sum=5512ee45d3d0c9dd30f2588512729aa8&arch=i386&type=main02:58
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zorglu_!restricted02:58
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:58
voicuoh, yeah :)02:58
TheGateKeeper_scion: I wanted to know if it was safe to do the updates, as just recently they seem to be letting out broken stuff02:58
morghanphoenixI wish I could, iPods don't support ogg.02:58
tom_done. what do i do with it?02:58
morghanphoenixAmaroK is safe02:58
TheGateKeeper_thanx morghanphoenix :-)02:59
morghanphoenixYeah, my earlier experiance with flash player as an example02:59
m3xican!bluetooth02:59
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup02:59
tom_voicu, can you tell me what i need to do with that deb?03:01
tom_please03:01
voicutom_: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb03:01
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ubuntuslm ben turkey03:02
morghanphoenixcan you change .deb packages file names or will that make them not work?03:02
ubuntuturkiye03:02
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abattoir!tr03:03
ubotuTurk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.03:03
abattoirubuntu: ^^^^03:03
ubuntuefem03:03
tom_voicu: doesn't work properly03:03
ubuntuturk olan varmi03:03
voicumorghanphoenix: you can, information like package version are usually inside the file03:03
voicutom_: does it have broken dependencies?03:04
heinkel_111!tr > ubuntu03:04
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tom_yes03:04
tom_"03:04
tom_dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libxine-extracodecs:03:04
tom_ libxine-extracodecs depends on libmad0 (>= 0.15.1b); however:03:04
tom_  Package libmad0 is not installed.03:04
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morghanphoenixthat's good, it's nice to avoid 20 charachter file names03:05
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ubuntuwhat is this03:05
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zorglu_tom_: likely an issue of repository, you got unniverse/multiverse ?03:05
tom_ah not sure03:06
tom_hang on03:06
XTorchedXwhat's multiverse anyway?03:06
voicuzorglu_: it doesn't have to do with repos when you install with dpkg03:06
zorglu_!repository03:06
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:06
ubuntufrom turk'ye turkey03:06
morghanphoenixnon-free packages03:06
ubuntutom03:06
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voicusorry, i have to go03:07
zorglu_voicu: yep but it is for dependancy03:07
voicugood luck03:07
tom_ok thanks03:07
zorglu_!restricted > tom_03:07
zorglu_this is the usual process to get your stuff working03:07
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tom_okay will try that as well03:08
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XTorchedX!mp303:10
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:10
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morghanphoenixOoh, MJS03:11
tom_ok started on that, i get "E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg" on the first one03:11
tom_??03:11
morghanphoenixMp3 Jukebox System for the console03:11
morghanphoenixwho was talking about needing a good command line music player?03:11
morghanphoenixthis one looks promising.03:11
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martmorghanphoenix: what've you found?03:12
morghanphoenixMJS03:12
morghanphoenixHaven't downloaded it yet, so it may not work, but it has search functions and playlists03:12
morghanphoenixmjs.sourceforge.net03:13
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tom_anyone explain why i get03:16
morghanphoenixyou looked at it mart?03:16
tom_"E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg"03:16
tom_why i try and install that codec?03:16
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martmorghanphoenix: never heard of it.03:18
tmdx120hi, Im trying to reconfigure my wireless hub with WEP can anyone help?03:18
morghanphoenixwhat do you think of the sourceforge page?03:18
zorglu_tom_: because you didnt follow the instructions at the begining of the page03:19
martmorghanphoenix: hard to tell, isn't it?03:19
ubuntugoog marn'g03:19
morghanphoenixyeah, but it'll be a good evercise in installing from source for me.03:20
ubuntuturk varmi03:20
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ubuntuhow are you03:20
tom_if you're talking about enabling the appropriate repositories, i'm sure i've already done that03:21
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XTorchedX!multiverse03:21
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:21
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DaveQBis there anyway to have WMA support in k3b ?03:23
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abattoirDaveQB: for decoding?03:23
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DaveQByeah03:24
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abattoiri think converting it to mp3/wav is the only option03:24
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mrbrdohey03:29
mrbrdowhen i unplug my usb mouse, and replug it, i have to restart my session for KDE to "notice" it again03:29
mrbrdosame for my other USB devices03:29
abattoirmrbrdo: dapper?03:29
mrbrdoyes03:30
mrbrdoit only works on edgy?03:30
abattoirmrbrdo: is it fully up-to-date?03:30
mrbrdoyeah it is03:30
abattoirno, no, nothing like that03:30
abattoirKDE 3.5.4 too?03:30
mrbrdohow can i check the version03:30
phreakys_i installed a new kernel (686) and now my network support is gone03:30
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phreakys_any idea how to get it back?03:30
abattoirmrbrdo: Help->About KDE03:30
mrbrdo3.5.4 yes03:31
abattoirphreakys_: did you install the corresponding linux-restricted-modules package?03:31
phreakys_no, i guess not. thanks abattor03:31
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abattoirphreakys_: if your network needs a 'restricted' driver, you may need that03:31
mrbrdoabattoir: it's 3.5.403:32
abattoirmrbrdo: ok... one sec03:32
phreakys_aha03:32
phreakys_would that fix the acpi problem too? acpi worked fine on my previous 386 core, but with the new kernel it hangs on acpi at boottime03:33
phreakys_hm03:33
mrbrdoi think not03:33
phreakys_i see that they were allready installed :S03:33
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tony_Hello. I installed qemu on my kubuntu ( 64bit ) , can i install 32 bit microsoft window as a guest ???03:34
zorglu_tony_: yes03:34
tony_ok.. :) .. thanks.. documentation was not very clear03:35
zorglu_will be slow tho :)03:35
tony_how slow ??03:35
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zorglu_i dont think kqemu will be usable in this case03:35
zorglu_so like 5-10 slower that native window03:35
zorglu_where it is like 1.5-2 slower with kqemu03:36
tony_what about installing VMWARE ???03:36
tony_would that still make the thing slwo ?03:36
mrbrdou can make chroot tony03:36
zorglu_dunno03:36
tony_chroot ? whats that03:36
abattoirmrbrdo: when did this start happening, after you installed KDE 3.5.4? or when you updated something? or did it just start out of the blue?03:36
mrbrdotony_: read on forums03:36
mrbrdoabattoir: not sure, i just installed yesterday.. before i was on ubuntu and it worked fine there03:37
zorglu_tony_: in anycase im not sure, you can try and see03:37
abattoir!chroot03:37
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box03:37
tony_okk.. i guess i will daulboot in this case :(03:37
mrbrdoit's not dualboot03:37
tony_i mean by installing window on different partition03:38
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mrbrdook03:38
martdual boot is much easier than trying to do a 32bit chroot and vmware.03:38
mrbrdoabattoir: brb03:38
abattoirmrbrdo: can't seem to find any bugs relating to this.... do you have backports/updates enabled too?03:38
martlast time I tried, the vmware packages were broken anyway.03:38
mrbrdoabattoir: yeah i do.. brb03:38
tony_yes. it is , but problme is when i try to remove window ....03:38
tony_i will end up with window MBR all the time03:39
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marttony_: no, you can just boot into linux and run grub-install to put its boot loader back.03:39
tony_really ??? woow. didn't know. thanks . .03:39
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martyou have to have a boot CD, and a bit of courage, but it works fine.03:40
ubuntuhallo leute03:40
tony_humm03:40
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ubuntulol03:40
tony_i have the boot cd.. but the other part  .. not yet03:40
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mart:)03:40
tony_so i wont be able to install GRUB from adapt or synaptic ??03:41
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marttony_: it's probably already installed!03:41
tony_yes it is , but after removing window from my system ( daulboot)03:41
tony_or can i just install LILO  :)03:42
martyes, it's installed on linux.  removing windows shouldn't affect that.03:42
pfeinI'm doing an 'alternate' install - I don't want the full-blown kubuntu-desktop... what should I install to get a basic KDE?03:42
tmdx120Does anyone know how to get a versalink 327w working on the net?03:42
martpfein: I'm not sure you can get such a thing with that CD.03:42
martpfein: kde-core is the meta-package for minimal kde on debian...03:43
pfeinmart: I've got options in aptitiude for kubuntu-{desktop, standard, minimal}03:43
martoh, right.  I never saw that.03:43
martgo with the package descriptions then - don't listen to me.03:43
morghanphoenixlaters, it's 7am here and I should probably sleep sometime this weekend.03:44
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pfeinmart: it's weird, those 3 show up as tasks in aptititude, but apt-get only seems to know about kubuntu-desktop. ;\03:45
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martah, tasks != packages03:45
phreakyshi again03:45
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phreakysi still got no network support for the 686 kernel, even with restricted modules installed :/03:45
phreakysany idea how to check whats wrong?03:45
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pfeinmart: hmm, ok.  how do I see what tasks a package pulls in? (Is the whole task thing documented anywhere?  no google love...)03:46
martpfein: it troubled me for years with debian - in the end, I never bothered to find out.  they always installed too much anyway.03:46
main2can i stop my shell from bein localized (i want english only shell)???03:46
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martmain2: hmm, that's actually quite difficult, I think.  in kubuntu, the X startup scripts source your .bashrc file..03:47
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mrbrdoabattoir: ok back.. any ideas?03:48
pfeinmart: ugh, I don't have a kde-core...  this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE seems either out of date or not applicable to alt. installs...03:48
main2mart:  thanks once again, i will take a look at it03:49
martpfein: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=kde-core03:49
main2mart: still trying to get vlc to work well, so ive added it to my todo list :)03:49
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mrbrdoabattoir: still there?03:51
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mrbrdoamarok package still broken?03:52
mrbrdoamarok: Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0) which is a virtual package.03:52
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Kr4t05Wow, I just gained 153MB by removing some out-dated kernel images.03:53
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martremember when 10Mb seemed like overkill for /boot ? :)03:54
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rancidhey guys what package contains all the c development libraries, e.g. stdio.h, stdlib.h, unistd.h, etc?03:55
Kr4t05mart: I wish, i haven't been around that long.03:55
pfeinmart: thx.  still annoying though - kubuntu-standard pulls in enough for a minimally functional console system, and kubuntu-desktop pulls in everything from acpi to open office. }:-[03:55
mrbrdoamarok: Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0) which is a virtual package. <-- still broken?03:55
pfeinmart: something in between would be nice...03:55
martpfein: heh :)03:56
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Kr4t05Ok, I think this will work.03:56
pfeinmart: If I wanted to cherry pick *all* of these packages by hand, I'd just use Gentoo03:56
martKr4t05: it was 10yrs ago at the most :)03:56
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mrbrdoguys03:56
mrbrdois amarok broken for you too??03:56
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mrbrdothe upgrade, that is.03:57
Kr4t05mart: I would have been 7, barely playing Doom for the first time.... Good times.03:57
mrbrdohelloooo03:57
marthey, I was coding on my ZX81 before I was 7  - what a wasted childhood :/03:58
Kr4t05heh03:58
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mrbrdoanyone?03:58
martwho was asking about header files?03:59
martrancid: libc6-dev, but you probably want to install build-essential.03:59
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mrbrdocan anyone hear me?04:01
mrbrdois amarok broken for you too? is it that hard to check04:02
mrbrdohalf o the people here must be using dapper so..04:02
Lynouresee not hear04:02
pfeinatptitude question: how can I *unmark* things?04:02
martpfein: uh, just set it back to it's original state. _ to purge , i to install.04:03
Lynouremrbrdo: broken in what way?04:03
mrbrdoThe following packages are BROKEN:04:03
mrbrdo  amarok04:03
mrbrdoThe following packages have unmet dependencies:04:03
mrbrdoamarok: Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0) which is a virtual package.04:03
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Lynouremrbrdo: did you try an apt-get update already?04:04
abattoirmrbrdo: sorry....04:04
mrbrdoLynoure: yes i did04:04
mrbrdoabattoir: ok.. so any idea?04:04
abattoirmrbrdo: do you have dapper-updates/dapper-backports enabled?04:04
abattoirplease recheck04:04
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mrbrdodeb http://www.ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/mirrors/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse04:05
mrbrdodon't have backports :O04:05
Lynouremrbrdo: mine installod fine last time, what version is the one you are trying to install?04:05
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martheh.04:06
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mrbrdoLynoure:04:06
mrbrdoKeep the following packages at their current version:04:06
mrbrdoamarok [2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4 (dapper, now)] 04:06
mrbrdoabattoir: i have the Seveas repo though, that's supposed to be backports, no?04:06
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abattoirmrbrdo: no, not as far as i know04:07
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martlast time I looked that was mostly just NX stuff04:07
abattoirmrbrdo: i mean dapper-backports04:07
mrbrdoabattoir: ok sec04:07
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pfeinoh screw it, it's just diskspace04:07
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abattoirmrbrdo: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports.... <= like that04:08
martpfein: and menu space! ;)04:08
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pfeintrue04:08
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pfeinmart: are deborphan/debfoster safe?  I'm /never/ gonna use open-office, might as well try to clean them up later...04:08
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AMDwhich kernel has EdgyEft/Knot3/Kubuntu04:09
martpfein: uh, if you keep kubuntu-desktop installed, the only way to get rid of OO.o is to use the equivs package04:09
pfeinmart: don't follow04:09
pfeinmart: oh, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop instead of the task?04:10
AMDwhich kernel has EdgyEft/Knot3/Kubuntu?04:10
martpfein: equivs can be used to generate some dummy packages that satisfy dependencies, but don't take up any space04:10
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martpfein: and since kubuntu-desktop depends on oo.o, you'd have to use that to have kubuntu-desktop without oo.o04:10
mrbrdoabattoir: it only upgraded knetworkmanager and flashplugin-nonfree though.. i don't think that will affect anything04:10
martpfein: on the other hand... you could just remove oo.o and kubuntu-desktop.04:11
martdebfoster and orphan work fine, but are very _boooring_ to use.04:11
abattoirmrbrdo: well, i cant seem to find a similar bug in launchpad, can't think of anything else....04:11
abattoirmrbrdo: have you tried restarting/rebooting etc. ?04:11
abattoirmrbrdo: ...just in case.04:12
phreakyshm04:12
phreakys686 documentation anywhere?04:12
martyou'll be lucky.04:13
pfeinmart: hmm, so the OO.o equiv is called...?04:13
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mrbrdoabattoir: yeah i did04:14
martpfein: no, no.  the equivs package is used to generate dummy packages.  you create a dummy package with the same name as the package you want to delete, then you install the dummy package instead of oo.o or whatever.04:14
martit's just there to satisfy dependencies.04:14
pfeinmart: ok, I get it.  how do I create such a thing?04:14
Junerowhat ubuntu packages are needed por the kdevelop documentation? i have installed kdevelop3-doc but it only content a bit documentation, i havent "bool","fopen","int", etc information for example04:14
martinstall equivs :)04:14
martJunero: glibc-doc04:15
martif you're coding in C.04:15
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Kr4t05Feh...04:15
Juneromart: glibc-doc is for c++ too?04:15
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Kr4t05I have to boot up VMware to take a stupid servey ><04:16
martno.04:16
martJunero: what kind of C++ are you doing?04:16
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martSTL? or Qt?04:16
Junerostl04:16
martthere's stl-manual04:17
Kr4t05I'm thinking about making a CLI RPG04:17
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pfeinmart: apt-get -s install equivs complains that there's no installation candidate. I'm clearly missing something.  is this doc'd somewhere?04:17
martand also libstdc++-.*-doc04:17
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Kr4t05Pulling some inspiration from Final Fantasy and Chrono.04:17
Juneromart: thanks04:17
martpfein: perhaps it's in universe04:17
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pfeinmart: yup04:18
abattoirmrbrdo: sorry, can't think of anything else, and i haven't heard of this one before...04:18
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mrbrdoabattoir: i'm upgrading some packages now, getting my amarok updated.. i'll try to reboot after and come back04:19
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mrbrdoabattoir: btw isn't there a package called hotplug?04:20
mrbrdoabattoir: i can't find it04:20
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mrbrdoabattoir: i remember it's supposed to decetd usb devices on-the-fly, that's why i ask04:20
martdmesg is useful for debugging hardware stuff.04:21
abattoirmrbrdo: i'm not sure, but i think hotplugging is a part of the kernel04:21
martafair the kernel is hardcoded to call hotplug04:22
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phreakysbah04:23
phreakysi cant even use the 686 kernel ;\04:23
phreakysnetwork support falls out with the new one04:23
Kr4t05Ugh, now I know why I never liked Windows.04:24
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AMDwhich kernel has EdgyEft/Knot3/Kubuntu?04:24
mart.17?04:24
mrbrdoi think dapper has .1504:25
mrbrdoand edgy\knot3 .1704:25
AMDI need a distribution with .1804:25
martyes, that's my recollection.04:25
mrbrdoAMD: i think u have to compile it yourself then04:25
mrbrdonot recommended i think04:25
martbetter get comfortable with make-kpkg04:25
mrbrdomart: but then he won't have any of the ubuntu patches -_-04:26
AMDmrbrdo: have tried doesnt work04:26
martmrbrdo: not necessarily04:26
martyou should be able to install the ubuntu patches for .17, and if you're lucky, apply them to .18'04:27
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martapt-cache search linux-patch show anything?04:27
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tony_daulboot installation help please. .04:29
tony_I just finished with MSDOS installation part04:30
larson9999Dr_willis: i've been wondering when he'll do a take on linger.  something like why did you have to pull my finger and let it linger04:30
tony_but system never boots into installation , goes directly to linux04:30
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tony_what should i do04:30
larson9999tony_: funny. i just installed freedos since it hit 1.004:30
Dr_willisI never did get a good download of the freedos cd...04:30
tony_im installing win2kpro04:31
Dr_willisi need to redownload it. :)04:31
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ninHerhi all04:31
larson9999Dr_willis: so far it works pretty well.  i can use it in dosemu or dual boot it04:31
larson9999i'm on a bid to use a different FOSS OS every day of the week04:32
tony_so anyone can tell me why im booted right into linux and not into windows installation processes04:32
marttony_: you don't have windows in the boot menu?04:33
tony_no04:33
marttry looking at update-grub04:33
tony_first part of installation was complete and i had to restart .04:33
Dr_willisI was trying it in vmware and it dident work.. but i think the cd was bad.04:33
tony_but once i do , it goes right back to linux04:33
tony_i have two partition on same harddrive ,04:34
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tony_win partition is fat3204:34
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mrbrdoabattoir: it works now, don't know why exactly :P04:35
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abattoirmrbrdo: haha, the reboot trick almost always works :)04:35
mrbrdoabattoir: hm actually04:36
abattoirit isnt?04:36
mrbrdoabattoir: no.. when i unplug and replug my USB sound card, then if i unplug\replug the mouse it again doesn't work04:36
mrbrdoabattoir: but it works if i do it before i unplug\replug my USB sound card04:36
mrbrdoabattoir: and after i replug my USB sound card it doesn't detect it either04:36
abattoirmrbrdo: so your USB sound card might be causing this issue?04:36
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mrbrdoabattoir: seems so but it worked on Gnome04:37
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mrbrdoabattoir: also it works after i relog04:37
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mrbrdoabattoir: i have to go now, but i will come back in ~40mins and try to fix this.. cya & thanks04:37
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abattoirmrbrdo: not sure i'll be there though :)04:38
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fleissigfionahey i have a problem, when i put a cd in i cant get amarok to just play it, i have to rip it first to ogg and then play it. how can i get it to play it from the cd?04:44
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abattoirfleissigfiona: one sec, i'll look it up, meanwhile try KsCD04:45
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abattoirfleissigfiona: which version of amarok do you have?04:46
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fleissigfionayeah KsCD seems to work ok04:46
fleissigfiona1.3904:47
abattoirdoes it have Engage->Play AudioCD (in the menubar) ?04:47
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fleissigfionaabbattoir: yes but it is greyed out04:47
abattoirhmmm...04:47
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larson9999linux rocks!04:48
JonTec__those people over at #gentoo are idiots. no way I'm getting rid of kubuntu for gentoo. I can't even get support for the livecd. I've been over there for like three days.04:48
JonTec__grrr.04:48
JonTec__but they're still not as bad as those guys over at debian.04:49
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larson9999is there a hierachy(sp) chart showing 'meanness' of the linux help channels?04:50
faked_How do I install something that's in a .tar.gz archive?04:50
abattoirfleissigfiona: Settings->Configure Amarok->Engine... is your device selected there?04:50
abattoirfaked_: depends on what exactly you are trying to install04:50
martJonTec__: you mean the debian irc channel?04:50
faked_it's ZSNES04:50
abattoirfaked_: most of the time it is './configure','make' and 'sudo make install'04:50
larson9999zsnes rocks04:50
faked_I did tar -xvvzf *filename*04:50
faked_I dunno what tod o now though04:50
abattoirfaked_: there generally is an INSTALL file inside the folder, when you extract it, that'd have more info04:51
faked_I see04:51
faked_I'll go check that04:51
fleissigfionaabbattoir:  doesnt seem to be04:51
abattoirand the Readme too....04:51
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abattoirfleissigfiona: you mean the option isnt there, or it wasn't selected?04:51
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abattoirfleissigfiona: if the option isnt there, upgrade to amarok 1.4.204:51
fleissigfionaabbattoir: ok, would i get that through adept or sth?04:52
abattoir!amarok04:52
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org04:52
pfeinJonTec__: Gentoo's not bad, you just really need to know what you're doing.04:52
abattoirfleissigfiona: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.3.php04:52
JonTec__yeah, but I'm talking about the support.04:52
JonTec__it sucks.04:53
JonTec__I'm having an simple (it seems to me) problem with initializing X and no one seems to care.04:53
abattoirfleissigfiona: you might want to change ...packages/amarok-143... to .../packages/amarok-latest... to make sure you always have the latest amarok04:53
Skrot!fbsplash04:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fbsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:54
fleissigfionaabbattoir: how do i do that?04:54
abattoirfleissigfiona: did you go to that link?04:54
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abattoir...or rather that page04:54
faked_okay it says I have to run a certain command "immediately after checkout the repository"04:55
faked_I know the command but what the hell does that mean?04:55
larson9999JonTec__: some channels seem to be more interested in helping after you've done a lot of RTFM.  i found that in #gentoo if i asked a question about something specific in the manual i got better help.04:55
martfaked_: that's for if you check code out of a version control system.  sounds like you got a tar.gz instead.04:56
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fleissigfionaabbattoir: yeah, im not entirely sure what to do with it though04:56
johey_Is there any KDE version of gvim?04:56
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Dr_williskvim04:56
Dr_willis:P04:56
Dr_willis!info kvim04:56
ubotuPackage kvim does not exist in any distro I know04:56
joheyDr_willis: I found no such thing with apt-cache search kvim04:56
faked_it says only do that if I'm using the CVS version04:56
faked_which I'm not04:57
larson9999JonTec__: this channel is surprisingly helpful even when it's 100% clear you haven't some much as manned or googled anything about your issue04:57
faked_okay I found more specific instructions I"ll check back here if I need help04:57
Dr_williswell ive used it befor04:57
joheyDr_willis: Is it usable as gvim?04:57
fleissigfionaabbattoir: its apt get right?04:57
Dr_willisand heck - it was even in my repos the other day04:57
Dr_willisit may of beeni had the newer beta-kde repos enabled04:58
Dr_willisjohey,  of course. :P its just vi with a menubar.04:58
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joheyDr_willis: I remember I have tested something like gvim but with QT, and that one indeed sucked at that time. It was some years ago though.04:58
abattoirfleissigfiona: you need to add it to your sources.list file...04:59
abattoirfleissigfiona: ok, open up adept04:59
fleissigfionaright04:59
fleissigfionagot it04:59
abattoirfleissigfiona: Adept->Manage Repositories04:59
fleissigfionaok04:59
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fleissigfionaabattoir: so ive added it to the repositories right05:01
abattoirfleissigfiona: yes, did you add that line...?05:01
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abattoirfleissigfiona: 'deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest dapper main' ?05:02
fleissigfionaabattoir: yep05:02
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faked_Why the fuck does ./configure NEVER WORK?! It told me to download this SDL media thing andd to install that, I simply have to run "./configure", "make", and "make install"05:02
abattoirfleissigfiona: ok now click on apply05:02
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|lostbyte|faked_, language pls.05:02
fleissigfionaabattoir: ok done that and now fetching updates05:02
abattoir!language05:02
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:02
abattoirfleissigfiona: ok, now just install amarok(upgrade, techinically)05:02
fleissigfionaabattoir:right05:03
faked_But when I run ./configure, it returns "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"05:03
abattoirfaked_: what error do you get?05:03
|lostbyte|faked_, sudo apt-get install build-essestials05:03
abattoir!b-e05:03
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)05:03
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faked_E: Couldn't find package build-essentials05:03
abattoirbuild-essential05:03
abattoirno s05:03
Dr_willis!info cream05:03
ubotucream: VIM macros that make the VIM easier to use for beginners. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.33.1-1 (dapper), package size 825 kB, installed size 2904 kB05:04
|lostbyte|faked_, sudo apt-get install build-essestial05:04
faked_I did05:04
faked_and it said "E: Couldn't find package build-essentials"05:04
faked_oh05:04
faked_wait no s, whoops, sorry05:04
|lostbyte|faked_, sgain ... sudo apt-get install build-essestial05:04
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vicenteola05:05
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zorglu_wow im identified by freenode now, i am part of the house now :)05:05
vicentehello05:05
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fleissigfionaabattoir: thanks it works great now!05:07
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abattoirfleissigfiona: cool :)05:07
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inc|freakywhats a good FTP program for KDE?05:20
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Hawkwindkftpgrabber, kbear, gftp, there are many of them05:21
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HawkwindYou can even use konqueror itself05:21
inc|freakyhm, ok05:21
inc|freakywhich one is the official one for kubuntu?05:22
HawkwindNo such thing really05:22
inc|freakyok05:22
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HawkwindUse what *you* like and feel comfortable with05:22
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heinkel_111where do i go to find information about how to patch a perl module?05:23
heinkel_111anyne got any cliues?05:24
heinkel_111*clues*05:24
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brush01uk#ubuntu05:24
lupine_85#perl ? ;)05:24
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lupine_85or man patch05:24
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heinkel_111lupine_85: isn't it a special thing when it is perl module?05:25
heinkel_111like perldoc-f ?05:25
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heinkel_111or do you use linux patch?05:25
lupine_85no idea05:25
lupine_85if it's a .diff file, then patch should work05:25
|lostbyte|heinkel_111, pls refer the readme the patch came with, from where you downloaded the perl.05:25
|lostbyte|perl/patch*05:26
gemidjyanyone digikam 0.8.2 stable (I could only find 0.8.2 rc1)05:26
heinkel_111|lostbyte|: it is just a diff file05:26
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heinkel_111no readme05:26
heinkel_111that's why i am buggering you05:26
fleissigfionawhat's the repository for getting the latest version of openoffice?05:27
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|lostbyte|heinkel_111, no docs from where you downloded it.05:27
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heinkel_111not as far as i can see, but i noticed there may be a bug due to me having norwegian as language selection05:28
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heinkel_111http://sourceforge.net/docman/?group_id=4718305:29
heinkel_111i can't get any docs there at least...05:29
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pfeinhey, what's that KDE initial config program that let's dialdown the eyecandy with a single big knob?05:31
Morticepfein: kpersonalizer05:31
pfeinyup, that's the one05:31
pfeinI have to say, (for reasons I cannot explain), KDE feels far zippier than XFCE.05:33
fleissigfionahow do you change the order of the grub bootloader and the time it waits?05:34
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Morticefleissigfiona: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst05:34
fleissigfionaok05:34
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arienh4does anyone of you know how i can run Second Life? It only gives warnings05:35
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arienh4and it doesn't work with wine05:35
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pfeinand it doesn't make me want to kill myself with it's GTK-ness!05:37
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pfeinsry, that was flamebait05:37
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lupine_85...there's a linux client...05:38
Dr_willislupine_85,  heh - i was just thinking that05:39
Dr_willis'second life' now you can have No life, in 2 worlds!05:39
Dr_willis:)05:39
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Dr_willis'under 18 - try out Teen Second Life' -  ' under 5 tryout Toddler Second Life ' :)05:40
lupine_85apart from !KMail!, can anyone recommend a KDE/GUI mail/news reader?05:41
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zorglu_lupine_85: thunderbird is not kde enougth ?05:43
Dr_willisI just use news-binary grabbers05:43
zorglu_as far as i know kmail is the only kde one05:43
Dr_willisrarely actually read the news05:43
pfeinzorglu_: thunderbird blows05:43
arienh4de linux client doesnt work05:44
lupine_85thunderbird is GTK AFAICT05:44
lupine_85besides, it's eating 90MB of ram not including libs05:45
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pfeingecko is bloaty05:46
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faked_Okay after a long and painful process I finally got ZSnes installed, but after I ran "make install", I have no idea where it's installed to or how to run it. Halp?05:46
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lackdianthi, I've got installed ntfs-3g05:47
lackdiantbut it crashes now05:47
lackdiantbecause of libc605:47
Dr_williswhere did ya get the ntfs-3g from?05:48
lackdiantmmm some added repo05:48
lackdiantone moment05:48
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lackdiantI hadn't any problem before05:48
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lackdiantbut yesterday I wanted to update all my systema and it's necesary to have 2.4-1 version of libc605:49
lackdiantand I can't find it05:49
Dr_willissomthing seems odd that its wanting to update libc605:49
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Dr_willisthas like a major core lib.05:49
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Ash-Fox!mysql05:49
ubotuoffically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)05:49
Dr_willisUnless you are mixing edgy/debian packages with dapper.05:50
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lackdiantI hadn't edgy packages05:50
lackdiantonly dapper05:50
Dr_williswhat command did you use to isntall the ntfs-3g?05:50
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robb_anyone have sound issues in dapper?05:51
scionhello all05:51
lackdiantI installed from a repository05:51
lackdiantand it worked fine05:51
lackdiantuntil yesterday05:51
lackdiantthat required me another version of libc605:51
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ge2xwhere can i get buildhash plz tel me any105:52
lackdiantI think the repository is deb http://givre.cabspace.com/ubuntu/ dapper main05:53
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nickv111Hello. For some reason, wlassistant isn't working too well for me. When it displays an ESSID, I can click it and it will join the wireless network. This always works. However, I have to click refresh many times for it to display wireless networks. Many times, I click "refresh" more than 20 times, and then the ESSID shows up with five stars. I have no idea what the problem is.05:55
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zorglu_nickv111: what about not click and just waiting, does it come up after a while ?05:56
nickv111zorglu_: I don't think it automatically refreshes05:56
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zorglu_ok05:57
ubuntuhi everyone, whats up05:57
nickv111Are there any better wifi connection programs?05:58
nickv111I'd like something that automatically displays wireless networks and then connects to them05:58
zorglu_nickv111: it is likely that the issue is a lot deeper that wlassistante05:58
zorglu_well i think i should not express myself as i dont use wifi :)05:58
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nickv111zorglu_: Well, it works after many scans, but the scans take almost no time, which I think may be the issue05:59
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nickv111Like, maybe it's not scanning for long enough to receive any broadcasts05:59
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scionwoohoo I got the usb HDD partitions mounted... finally05:59
zorglu_nickv111: maybe there is a bad timeout...05:59
lupine_85rutilt r0x0rz05:59
lupine_85not in the repos... yet06:00
lupine_85erm, sorry. thought this was #ubuntu+1 ;)06:00
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Ash-Fox!mysql-server06:01
ubotumysql-server: mysql database server (current version). In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.2 (dapper), package size 36 kB, installed size 68 kB06:01
JonTec__!ide06:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:01
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scionJonTec__: what you wanna know about IDE06:02
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Ash-FoxThis is such a annoyance, mysql from the packages will not start.06:02
gordelWer hilft hier weiter06:02
m3xican!apache06:02
ubotuoffically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)06:02
scionAsh-Fox: is it for testing or to use as an actual server06:03
mrbrdoabattoir: hey i'm back06:03
Ash-Foxscion, an actual server06:03
faked_Hey I got a problem. I installed ZSnes, but I don't know how to run it >_>06:03
scionAsh-Fox: ok if it was for testing I was going to recommend Apache Friends, I use it for PHP/MySQL development myself06:04
Ash-FoxIt's quite interesting to see that so many people have the same problem, but nobody has a answer too..06:06
lupine_85MySQL works here06:06
lupine_85well, in Redbus06:06
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faked_Hey I got a problem. I installed ZSnes, but I don't know how to run it >_>06:07
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tony_hellp06:11
tony_hello & help, I guess06:11
pfeinuhh, where's the option to turn off startup notification?06:12
Dr_willisfaked_,  run 'zsnes' from the terminal06:12
_max_sorry for someone to help you, you need to statea question06:12
Dr_willisfaked_,  you do need some SNES roms :)06:12
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nimnrodi accidently changed permission properties in /var and now my server doesnt work... i sccrewed the folder and i now i dont know how to restore everything as it was before06:12
_max_tony; if you want help in the unix/linux world, write your problem on ONE line, with all the information you can think of that may be related to your question.06:13
lupine_85erm, you can't really :(06:13
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nimnrodhelp!06:13
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zorglu_$ ls -ld /var06:14
zorglu_drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 2006-09-20 23:14 /var06:14
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zorglu_nimnrod: try sudo chmod 755 /var06:14
lupine_85drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 4096 2006-09-12 20:02 /var06:14
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lupine_85...that's what rwxrxrx is :)06:14
nimnrodzorglu_:  what is ls -ld /var ??06:15
tony_I finally succeeded in installing Kubuntu, but it overwrote grub, and is not allowing me to boot to my fedora installation, as well06:15
dmhouseHi all. I want to configure dual head output on my Kubuntu laptop. I've gone in through System Settings -> Display -> Administrator mode -> Second screen, but the 'Apply' button is greyed out.06:15
Hawkwindnimnrod: That's how he got the permissions for it06:15
nimnrodand the date?06:15
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dmhouseDoes this mean it's not possible with my video card, perhaps?06:15
Hawkwinddmhouse: Using nvidia ?06:15
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dmhouseHawkwind: I think so, not 100% sure. Is there an easy way to find out?06:16
lupine_85do you need root privs?06:16
lupine_85(eg kdesu kcontrol)06:16
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Hawkwinddmhouse: What kind of video card do you have ?06:16
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dmhouseHawkwind: like I just said, I think it's an nVidia, but I'm not 100% sure, and is there an easy way to find out?06:16
Hawkwinddmhouse: You can run lshw | grep video to find out possibly06:17
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HawkwindThough you should really know what kind of hardware you have in your computer :)06:17
Hawkwinddmhouse: You could also look in systemsettings under hardware or something and it should tell you what kind of video card you have06:18
dmhouseI only know about the hardware that doesn't work :)06:18
tony_I dont seem to be able to find my grub.conf, and dont have my favorite editor (joe) to alter it, apt-get isnt findingf joe to install06:18
altairgreetings, I recently installed kubuntu on my duron machine but i see my kernel is 2.6.15-26-386, isn't the 2.6.15-25-k7 kernel a better fit fo my pc?06:18
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dmhouselshw | grep video doesn't show anything.06:19
Hawkwindtony_: No such thing as grub.conf.  It's /boot/grub/menu.lst  is where your grub file is06:19
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Hawkwinddmhouse: Look in systemsettings06:19
tony_oh, okay, and what editor is installed here by default for me to edit it?06:19
lupine_85altair: makes very little difference06:19
kolinhow do i install my printer?06:20
altairlupine: really?06:20
lupine_85change to the -k7 if it makes you feel better, but they're obsoleted in edgy anyway06:20
lupine_85yep06:20
kolini really have no idea06:20
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Hawkwindtony_: kwrite, kate, vi and many others06:20
tony_no vim, no vi, no joe...06:20
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lupine_85joe++06:20
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lupine_85!info oe06:20
lupine_85!info joe06:21
ubotuPackage oe does not exist in any distro I know06:21
ubotujoe: user friendly full screen text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-0.2 (dapper), package size 217 kB, installed size 696 kB06:21
tom__kolin go to system setting and add printer06:21
dmhouseAh, right, it might be integrated graphics. System Settings -> Hardware -> Display -> Hardware tells me I have an 'i810' graphics card and driver.06:21
lupine_85!info joe edgy06:21
ubotujoe: user friendly full screen text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3-5 (edgy), package size 279 kB, installed size 868 kB06:21
kolin!print06:21
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows06:21
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tony_but sudo vi menu.lst gives vi not found06:21
Hawkwinddmhouse: That's onboard then.  I know nothing about onboard stuff as I use Nvidia to use their TwinView for dual monitors06:21
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sciontony_: use nano06:21
Hawkwindtony_: kdesu kwrite /boot/grub/menu.lst06:21
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lupine_85joe > nano06:23
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tony_ok, I got nano /boot/menu.lst  but I dont know how to go about adding the fedora install back in.06:24
wooptydooIs there any reason why firefox is using 30% if my cpu according to stop...06:24
dmhousehttp://imagebin.org/6205 shows the screen System Settings -> Display -> Hardware.06:24
wooptydoocausing my computer not to work worth a damn?06:24
lupine_85tony_: copy one of the current entries (near the bottom), editing root, kernel and initrd as appropriate06:25
mrbrdoAfter i unplug my USB soundcard, what ever i plug into USB is not detected until i restart my KDE session.06:25
mrbrdofor example my mouse, or my sound card06:25
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scionmrbrdo: on second, i am looking for something for you06:26
tony_and where can may I learn the proper settings for these parameters?06:26
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mrbrdoscion: what?06:26
wooptydooAny why can't I use iceWM themes from kde-look.org06:26
wooptydoono option in Kcontrol06:26
altairlupine: thank you very much for your reply!06:26
lupine_85np :)06:27
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wooptydooWas some package not installed06:27
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wooptydoo?/06:27
tony_I know where the fedora install is (hda1) and that it is kernel 2.6.17, but beyond that, Im a bit lost06:27
scionmrbrdo: i installed usbmount in Adept and that fixed it for my USB devices, it auto mounts them for you06:27
mrbrdoscion: ok let me try06:28
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mrbrdoscion: it says it's for usb mass storage devices though.. i have a prob with the soundcard06:29
tony_it has kubuntu at hd0,1 which I dont understand, I put kubu on the second partition (hda2)06:29
mrbrdobrb let me try it06:30
josh_i lost windows last night06:30
Ash-FoxWould anyone happen to know of a decent webbased management system for general servers (Since I'm helping a friend setup a server, who has little knowledge on Linux)?06:30
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josh_tryin to enable spread spectrum clocking06:30
josh_windows won't boot06:30
lupine_85no longer webmin :(06:30
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josh_i lost all my pictures06:30
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josh_how can i do data recovery06:30
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steveireHey. I was sent a MS Publisher file. Can I use something in KDE to view/edit it?06:30
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scionmrbrdo: do it anyway, whats the harm?06:31
ninHerbye all06:31
lupine_85josh_: data recovery as in restore deleted files, or data recovery as in re-enabled windows in the grub menu?06:31
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Hawkwindsteveire: Something like openoffice or something might open it06:32
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josh_restore corrupted  files06:32
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lupine_85that is incredibly vague06:32
josh_well not like fix everything06:32
josh_i know i lost some stuff06:32
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josh_but i wanna recover what i can06:33
lupine_85how did it get lost?06:33
scionsteveire: whats the craic - try KWord06:33
lupine_85did you install ubuntu over the top of it? accidentally rm -rf? throw it off a cliff?06:33
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angasule!qemu06:33
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo06:33
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mrbrdoscion: wow, it worked :P06:34
steveirethe craic? Picking up on the whole irish thing? I don't think OO works anyway...06:34
scionmrbrdo: told ya, sometimes the descriptions are no all what they seem in Adept :)06:34
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mrbrdoscion: :P thanks a bunch :)06:35
scionsteveire: I am Irish and KWord opened a .pub file for me the other day without any problem06:35
tony_I dont know the fullname of the fedora kernel and dont know the other parameters to give grub to add my fedora install back in06:35
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mrbrdotony_: full name: uname -a06:35
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mrbrdooh nvm06:36
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tony_but will that give me the fedora kernel, or the kernel that this new kubu install is using06:36
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arunkalehey kids06:36
mrbrdono the ubuntu kernel06:36
ubuntuw06:36
steveireAh, right, I'm with you now. You go to trinity at the weekend?06:36
mrbrdowell, u have to know on which partition u have fedora06:36
mrbrdolike /dev/hda306:36
mrbrdofor example06:36
ubuntuhi06:37
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mrbrdou have to find out if u have a seperate boot partition for fedora or it's on the same drive06:37
scionsteveire: I'm already qualified and no, I HATE trinity students06:37
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lupine_85tony_: mount the fedora partition and have a peek06:37
ubuntudo you speak italian?06:37
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steveirescion: I meant because there's a KDE conference on. I checked it out for a bit, but it's a developers conference any way over my head.06:38
lupine_85!it06:38
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!06:38
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ubuntuuboutu tnx06:38
ubuntu:)06:38
tony_I really am not even sure how to do that.  altho I have been using fedora for 6 years, I am far from an expert...I am a teacher and translator who needed to economize, and found myself in agreement iwith foss principles, but by far no expert06:39
scionsteveire: hehe naah i'm too busy for conferences!06:39
lupine_85"sudo mount /path/to/devfile -t <type> /path/to/mountpoint"06:39
tony_this is my first attempt at a dual boot with two linux systems, and the first dual boot in forever (gave up windows in,,,2000, i think)06:39
scionubuntu: uboutu is a bot06:39
lupine_85then "cd /path/to/mountpoint/boot" and see what's inside06:39
tony_I dont even know the /path/to/mountpoint06:40
tony_would that be /dev/hda1 where the fc install is?06:40
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tony_thats not even in /etc/fstab06:41
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all-naturalhello all06:42
tony_maybe I should reboot with the fedora recovery cd and edit grub from there?06:42
scionhello all-natural06:42
scionall-natural: does your nick imply you have big boobies?06:43
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all-naturalscion: of course.06:43
scionall-natural: ohhhh yeah!06:43
all-naturalscion: no, i just try live a sustainable all natural life style :)06:43
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scionall-natural: booooooooo06:44
all-naturallol06:44
tony_uname only give me the info on the kubu install06:44
scionhehe06:44
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mrbrdotony_: mount the fedora partition06:45
mrbrdotony_: sudo mkdir /mnt/dir && sudo mount /dev/hdaX /mnt/dir06:46
mrbrdothat way u'll find the partition06:46
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tony_ok, but how do I mount the fedora partition?  I tried mount /dev/hda1 but it said that it is not in /etc/fstab06:46
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tony_do I need to edit /etd/fstab first?06:46
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tony_oh, I have to do sudo mkdir first to get it into fstab?06:47
mrbrdotony_: just like i said06:47
mrbrdono06:47
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mrbrdou don't need to get it into fstab06:47
mrbrdomake a directory in /mnt to which you will mount the partition06:47
tony_i hate not having root...06:47
mrbrdomake it with sudo06:47
mrbrdotype sudo -s06:47
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mrbrdoand u are root :)06:47
mrbrdoanyway, then type mkdir /mnt/whatever06:47
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mrbrdothen mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/whatever06:48
mrbrdothis way you don't need it in fstab06:48
tony_that worked!06:48
mrbrdothen check if it's the right partition06:48
mrbrdoif not, umount /mnt/whatever06:48
mrbrdomount /dev/hda2 /mnt/whatever06:48
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mrbrdocontinue doing this until you find it06:48
mrbrdothen tell me and i'll tell u what to do next06:48
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mrbrdotony_: how's it going?06:51
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tony_ok, I got the initrd and kernel parameters, but am unsure what to put for the root parameter, for kubu I see (hd0,1) but I dont understand, bc, the kubu is at hda206:52
mrbrdook here's how that works06:52
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mrbrdoif you have a /boot directory in the partition of fedora06:52
mrbrdothen root is the same06:52
tony_I do06:52
mrbrdoas the boot06:52
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mrbrdofor example, if fedora is on /dev/hda3, the root is (0,2)06:52
mrbrdounderstand?06:53
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mrbrdokernel is then /boot/vmlinuz...06:53
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mrbrdoand intird /boot/initrd.img...06:53
rikhardhi all06:53
tony_Im a little confused, only becase, fromwhat I understand, I put kubu on the 2nd partiton, hda2, but what it says is (hd0,1), so unure what that would mean for the fedora install06:53
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mrbrdotony_: i'll tell u in pvt ok06:53
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tony_fedora is at hda106:54
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tony_cant send prvt msg because I am unregistered and confused abou tthe register command (boy...I m just lost all over, no?)06:55
mrbrdooh ok06:55
mrbrdojust read in pvt then06:55
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tony_thanks so much, mrbrdo...think I got it, going to save the menu.lst and try to reboot06:58
mrbrdook06:58
mrbrdoi have to go06:59
mrbrdotony_:06:59
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mrbrdoso i hope u got it working06:59
mrbrdoi come back in 30 mins to 1 hr06:59
rikhardcan we use the debian-multimedia repositiry with kubuntu?07:00
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rikhardrepository07:00
tom_help! how can i get screen resolution higer than 1024 x 76807:00
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esbentom_: Define them in /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:01
esbentom_:  (Hang on, getting an example for you)07:01
tony_darn it...wouldt let me save changes....07:01
Admiral_Chicagorikhard, you could. but its not advised07:01
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Admiral_Chicagothe ubuntu repos will be more than enough07:01
tony_I dont understand this sudo stuff, much, used to getting root to do this stuf07:01
rikhardhummm, it break automatix?07:02
esbentony_: Try sudo su :o)07:02
Dr_willistony_,  just put sudo infront of the command, no need to have a root shell open all the time07:02
rikhardwell, packages from dm are more updated07:02
Admiral_Chicagorikhard, no07:02
Admiral_Chicagowhat are you trying to do?07:02
tony_just tried to do it again, sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst and got Unknonw id: nano07:02
esbentom_: Find The screens section (It starts with Section "Screen")07:02
Admiral_Chicagotry sudo apt-get install nano07:02
Admiral_Chicagothats strange,07:03
esbentom_: Then edit all the lines that starts with Modes to something like this07:03
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esbentom_:                 Modes           "1600x1200 1400x1050 1200x960 1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"07:03
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esbenAnd I will be very happy when X finally foes this automatically and correctly07:03
esbenHmmm... is it just me, or is DNS getting really slow...?07:04
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tony_ok, think I got it07:05
tony_yep, changes saved....lets see what happens on reboot now07:05
tony_Ill be back!07:05
main2could anyone tell me how to stop localisation of my shell.... i dont want a dutch console..07:06
main2i would like to get my shell back - in plain english, is this possible?!07:06
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tom_changed xorg.conf but no change07:07
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tom_<esben : changed xorg.conf but no change07:09
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main2i would like to get my shell back - in plain english, is this possible?!07:10
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abaldwinIm back (was tony)07:13
abaldwinsuccessfully added fedora to the grub menu, but when I tried to boot it, I got file not found, so I ust have done something wrong07:13
arunkalewhat is fedora like07:13
arunkaleis it nice?07:13
rikhardwell i was trying to upgrade dvdrip, transcode etc07:13
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tom_help! how to get screen resolution higer than 1024x76807:14
eihnatarunkale: fedora is like any other distro. still linux. ;)07:15
eihnati liked to use it.07:15
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arunkalei'd tried using it when it was FC307:15
arunkalethat was on a friend's computer07:16
arunkalethat was my first linux experience07:16
arunkaleseemed pretty cool07:16
arunkaleis it as easy to use as kubuntu/07:16
arunkale?07:16
abaldwinyeah, Ive been using rh and fc since 2000 when I gave up windows, completely new to kubunto. this is my first day on my first kubu install07:16
abaldwinand I some hosed grub in the process, and cant get my fedora install to boot07:16
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abaldwinI really loved fedora for so long, but now, for some reason, every yum update breaks something, thus, I am here07:17
arunkaleah07:17
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eihnati used mostly fc4, liked that probably the best. fc5 had still problems with something. 4 was absolutely easy to install and setup, in 5 had so many problems, that i gave up and changed to kubuntu and gentoo.07:18
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slow-motionhallo07:19
arunkalehow is your kubuntu experience as compared to using fc07:19
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eihnatwell, probably better. at least definitely if i compare to fc5, and kubuntu 6.0607:20
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eihnatto be honest, ubuntu/kubuntu is probably really distro that is one of best out now.07:21
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arunkalecool07:22
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n00btarddoes anyone know why when i installed msttcorefonts the new fonts arnt able to be used? (they dont show up anywhere)07:25
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mrbrdowhat's better, xmule or amule, or something else?07:27
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eihnatmrbrdo: amule not bad. i hadn't have any problems07:28
Hawkwindmrbrdo: It's all about personal choice really.  Use several and see what *you* like best07:28
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luca_bmrbrdo: amule has support also for the Kad protocol, unsure about xmule07:28
mrbrdoi want one that support kademilla07:29
mrbrdosupports*07:29
luca_bmrbrdo: then amule it is07:29
mrbrdoi'll try that then :)07:29
luca_b(a recent version)07:29
luca_bI tested with a Kad network, so I'm sure it works07:29
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sybuxI've just made an apt-get install koffice and when I try to start kword for example, I've got an error : kwordpart.desktop not found07:29
sybuxany ideas ?07:29
luca_bsybux: try doing sudo apt-get install --reinstall kword07:30
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sybuxluca_b: still same error07:30
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luca_bsybux: then do this07:31
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luca_bsybux: sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update && apt-file search kwordpart.desktop07:31
luca_bthis will tell you which package has that file07:31
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sybuxluca_b: here is the complete error code : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2469307:32
sybuxI'm running the commands you have me07:32
luca_bsybux: ok, lookin07:33
arunkalei didnt get how to use amule07:33
luca_bg07:33
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arunkalehow to connect to a server, etc07:33
luca_bsybux: really odd, indeed07:33
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luca_bok07:34
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luca_bsybux: sudo apt-get install kword-data07:34
luca_bif it says it's already installed, pass it with the option --reinstall07:34
sybuxluca_b: it's already newest version07:34
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sybuxlol07:34
luca_bsudo apt-get install --reinstall kword-data07:34
sybuxluca_b: ok done07:35
luca_bgive it a try now07:35
sybuxsame error07:35
luca_berf07:35
luca_bsybux: try dpkg -L kword-data | grep *.desktop07:35
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Hawkwind!repos > Hawkwind07:35
sybuxluca_b: is there a special install to do after the apt-get to configure user script or other things ?07:35
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sybuxluca_b: nothing07:36
luca_bsybux: my bad, wrong regular expression07:36
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luca_bsybux: retry with dpkg -L kword-data | grep kwordpart07:36
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ffkhi all07:37
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sybuxit's in /usr/share/services07:37
ffkpl?07:37
luca_bthen do a ls /usr/share/services/ | grep kwordpart07:37
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sybuxluca_b:  ??07:37
FFKpl?07:37
luca_bsybux: that is to see if the file is actually there07:37
sybuxoops sorry I've read ln in stead of ls !07:38
FFKwho can help me (pl) becauce i can`t speak english07:38
luca_band obligatory question, which version of Koffice are you using?07:38
FFK?07:38
jothI just tried asking on  #winehq about a problem, and the guy asked for what 'locale' I was using - when I said I didn't know, he said ask on your distro channel. Can anyone help me with my cluelessness?07:38
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luca_bjoth: the "locale" means which language, regional settings, etc you are using07:38
sybuxluca_b: the file is there. I've just do an apt-get install koffice07:38
FFKneed help07:38
FFKbye :[07:39
HawkwindFFK: Just ask your question07:39
luca_bsybux: oddd07:39
jothSo would it just be 'English'?07:39
sybuxluca_b: it's version 1.5.0-0ubuntu907:39
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luca_bjoth: if you're british English is en_GB, otherwise it's en_US07:39
jothThanks :)07:39
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luca_bsybux: kubuntu.org has 1.6 beta packages up in case you're interested07:40
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luca_bsybux: perhaps that may fix the problem, but notice it's a beta07:40
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sybuxluca_b: for the moment I just want it to works07:40
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luca_bsybux: try doing what the error suggestios you - kde-config --path services07:41
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sybuxI've done and here is the result :07:41
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sybux /home/sybux/.kde/share/services/:/usr/share/services/07:42
luca_bsybux: erf07:42
sybuxso it should works07:42
luca_bsybux: really odd07:42
sybuxperhaps shall I need to open a new session. I'll try07:42
luca_bsybux: may be worth trying07:43
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mojosoundI am running the live cd, how do I mount hdb5 to archive data on it to cd for backup.  It is ext3 file system.07:44
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all-naturalhello all, i have a  quick inquirey. amarok keeps freezing sence the last update, but only after i turn up the volume through kmix. now, my problem is i can't restart amarok after i close it. it just doesnt boot up, is there some other process that needs to be restarted? everything seems to be working fine if i reboot, minus the freezing07:46
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luca_ball-natural: try doing "killall amarokapp" in a terminal07:46
Hawkwindall-natural: Have you tried running it from a terminal to see if you get any errors or anything when it freezes ?07:47
all-naturaltyx luca_b that worked07:47
all-naturalhawkwind, let me find out right now that it's up and running again07:47
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all-naturalstrange, now that i did killall it seems to not freeze (i didn't run it from a term)07:49
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all-naturalit may have something to do when it loads on boot from the last session07:49
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all-naturalthx for your help :D07:50
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mrbrdois it possible to make KDE display only those windows in taskbar, that are opened in CURRENT desktop, not on all desktops07:52
luca_bmrbrdo: yes, right click on taskbar07:53
luca_bmrbrdo: select configure panels07:53
luca_bmrbrdo: select "taskbar" and uncheck "show windows of all desktops"07:54
arunkalemrbrdo: anything's possible07:54
arunkale:)07:54
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abattoirmrbrdo: sorry, was away, glad it worked for you :)07:54
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arcasaHow do I tell mplayer to repeat a file?07:55
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arunkale"repeat the file, bitch"07:55
arcasa. . . . .07:56
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arunkalesorry07:56
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arcasaThat's OK.07:56
abattoirarunkale: you've been here long enough to know its inappropriate...07:56
abattoiroh, well :)07:56
arunkaleI'm sorry07:56
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arcasaHow do I really do it?07:56
abattoirarunkale: yes, i saw that, that's why i stopped in the middle :P07:56
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abattoirarcasa: rt. click repeat track or something?(not familiar w/ it, sorry)07:57
arcasamplayer is a terminal player... No UI07:57
abattoirwell, there is mplayer gui... i thought you were refering to it...07:57
arunkalearcasa: i'm trying to find out for you07:58
arcasaNope... I use the terminal player. Less of a distraction :P07:58
mrbrdoluca_b: thanks a lot :)07:58
arcasaThanks arunkale.07:58
arcasaDammnit I have to sit on the desk... My little cat stole my chair :O!07:59
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abattoirarcasa: -loop might help...07:59
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tom_got a prob with Adept Manager, can someone help?08:00
arcasa-loop. Thanks.08:00
arunkalearcasa: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/man/en/mplayer.1.html#USAGE08:00
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altairhas anyone installed netodragon driver modem in kubuntu dapper?08:00
abattoirarcasa: -loop followed by the no. of times you want it to loop08:00
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tom_under the Adept menu, Manage Repositories is greyed out08:00
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arcasaNo infinite sign?08:00
abattoirarcasa: 0 is loop forever08:00
abattoir:)08:00
arcasa:D08:00
arcasaThanks y'all. Bye now.08:00
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tom_progblem with Adept Manager: under the Adept menu, Manage Repositories is greyed out08:04
linoleumhi , I got a question : I've got an amdTurion64 , but i'm with the dapper 32 bits version . I would like to have an optimized kernel. Should I use a K7 or a i686 kernel ?08:04
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abattoirlinoleum: i guess k7 is a bit more suited, but personally i've found no noticable difference08:05
abattoirtom_: are you running it w/ root privileges?08:06
linoleumthe reason why I'm not sure to use K7 (which would be like K8 for 32 bits) , is because of this : http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/installation/kernel_optimise08:06
sinpathcan some one help me with my ripper?08:06
abattoirsinpath: ask your question :)08:06
abattoirlinoleum: hmm, mind giving a gist of what it says?08:07
sinpathwell it wont rip my cds & save them to file08:07
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sinpathwell it rips them but ownt save to file08:07
abattoirsinpath: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping#head-5faf5813462218ac5192409ef168934979f4ff85 might help :)08:07
sinpaththanks08:08
abattoirsinpath: i may not *really* be helping you, but that's an easier method of ripping ;)08:08
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linoleumwell, it's an "how to" , to have an optimized kernel. And they say that if you got an AMD64, but run in 32 bits, you should use the i686 kernel . But I dont think it's obvious :)08:08
jessica_hallo!08:08
abattoirlinoleum: as i said, i've tried both, i haven't noticed any difference between the two08:08
jessica_wo muss ich hin wenn ich zum deutschen kubuntu will?08:09
abattoir!de08:09
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de08:09
abattoirjessica^^08:09
tom_abbatoir: i assume so08:09
abattoirjessica_: ^^^08:09
tom_seeing as how i have to enter my password upon launching adept manager08:10
abattoirtom_: hmm, that's weird... must be a bug then... are you on dapper?08:10
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tom_no, edgy knot 308:10
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HawkwindKnown issue in Edgy08:10
abattoirtom_: aah, then must be a bug, wait let me check08:10
tom_bugger08:10
abattoirHawkwind: hi, really?08:10
Hawkwindabattoir: Yes.  Jucato filed a bug report08:11
abattoirHawkwind: ok, i can confirm it too...08:11
Hawkwindabattoir: He filed it back on Knot2 actually when I confirmed it08:11
HawkwindI don't remember if I ever confirmed the bug or not on LP08:11
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jessica_#kubuntu-de08:12
scionback08:12
jessica_h???08:12
abattoirjessica_: /join #kubuntu-de or just click on it08:12
tom_well.. i'm still struggling to understand most of this, but would the changes i'd make in Manage Respositories the same as when I edit sources.list?08:12
jessica_thank you!08:13
Hawkwindtom_: Yes08:13
abattoirtom_: yes,08:13
tom_same effect?08:13
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tom_right, thought so, thanks08:13
abattoirtom_: Manage Repositories is just a graphical method of editing sources.list08:13
Hawkwindtom_: It's easier IMO to just edit the file and use the package manager from CLI rather than relying on a GUI package manager08:13
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tom_it's just i'm closely following instructions in documentation to get some things working08:14
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tom_doing apt-get update - accessing .gb server, seems slow, anyone else using the gb?08:16
tom_is there another which is faster at the moment?08:16
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bobesponjahey all08:18
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bobesponjaI associated .rhtml to open with kate and now everytime I open a webpage that runs on my webrick konqueror opens it in kate08:19
bobesponjahow can I fix this?08:19
Jis it easy to install kubuntu onto my system whilst keeping the 2 OS's i already have installed08:19
_kkathmantom I have the gb sources also08:19
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_kkathmantom  I dont seem to experience the slowness, though08:20
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tom_damnit08:20
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tom_downloading at about 500Bps08:21
jaysefis it easy to install kubuntu onto my system whilst keeping the 2 OS's i already have installed08:21
tom_depends what you mean by easy jaysef08:21
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jaysefwell atm i have dual boot with xp and slax08:21
scionbobesponja: right click on the file - select open with and picl firefox or opera - don't forget to check the box at the bottom for konqueror to remember08:21
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tom_did you find that easy to do?08:22
jaysefid like to add kubuntu as well, i have a spare partition in etx3 format08:22
jaysefbut im worried in case i wipe the boot record i already have08:22
jayseftom: the os installer done it all for me08:24
sinpathhey ummm can yany one tell me what this means?08:24
sinpathThe selected encoder was not found.08:24
jaysefare you trying to watch a movie format or something ?08:24
abattoirsinpath: where do you get this?08:24
bobesponjascion: I want to open that page with konqueror but konqueror insists in opening it with kate08:24
sinpathwhen ripping the cd08:24
sinpathwhen its finshed it pops up08:25
abattoirjaysef: i'd expect grub to detect your other installations...08:25
abattoirsinpath: which method did you use?08:25
abattoirsinpath: audiocd:/ ?08:25
sinpathi have it set up for mp3  ya i think08:26
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abattoirsinpath: are you following the link which i gave you?08:26
sinpathkaudiocreator08:26
bobesponjascion: it doesn't work08:26
Dr_willisit pays to learn the ins and outs of grub. :P08:26
abattoirsinpath: ok, you need to install an mp3 encoder...08:26
abattoirsinpath: install lame from multiverse08:26
abattoir!info lame08:26
ubotulame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB08:26
bobesponjaabattoir: hey :)08:27
abattoir!multiverse08:27
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:27
sinpathyes  & as far as i can understand08:27
abattoirbobesponja: hi :)08:27
abattoirbobesponja: installation went well?08:27
nimnrodi want to play MP3 files.... which package should i donwload? i use amarok as media player08:27
bobesponjaabattoir: yes thanx08:27
abattoirnimnrod: libxine-extracodecs08:27
nimnrodty08:27
nimnrodthank you08:27
bobesponjaabattoir: I associated an .rhtml to open with kate and now everytime I open a webpage that runs on my webrick konqueror opens it in kate08:27
abattoirnimnrod: its in multiverse, so you should enable that, look at the link above08:27
sinpathok thanks again08:27
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abattoirbobesponja: did you try removing that association?08:28
bobesponjaabattoir: any idea how to fix this? it's a ruby file that shold open like .html or .php as it outputs html08:28
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bobesponjaabattoir: where can I remove it?08:28
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abattoirbobesponja: KControl/System Settings->KDE Components->File Associations08:28
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bobesponjaabattoir: I looked in there but rhtml is not in the list08:29
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rebeccahi08:29
abattoirbobesponja: else you could set konq. as the default app, the same way you set kate...08:29
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bobesponjaabattoir: I did that but it didn't fix it08:32
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shegmani added a symbol to the toolbar in kontact. now it crashes everytime when i want to start it.08:33
shegmanwhat can i do?08:34
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Admiral_Chicagoshegman, you have the information backed up?08:34
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sinpathumm question how do i find the muti draper cause i cant find it in my adept08:34
shegmanwhat information?08:35
shegmanthe crash-report?08:35
octanHeya all08:35
Admiral_Chicagothe information in kontact08:35
octananyone got experiance with xmeeage ?08:35
scionhello octan08:35
Admiral_Chicagosinpath, what is muti draper08:35
bobesponjaabattoir: ok thanx I had to go to /home/pat/.kde/share/mimelnk/text/html.desktop and set X-KDE-AutoEmbed=true08:35
octanwhy does this not print on 2 lines with xmessage-?? xmessage -c $(echo -e "test\nthis a test too")08:35
shegmanno. i hadn't expected that it wouldn't start again08:35
luca_buhm, I have a question08:36
Admiral_Chicagoluca_b, ask08:36
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scion"test \n this a test too"08:36
tom_can anyone tell me how to install codecs when apt-get update doesn't work08:36
luca_bdo you know if .img files taken with k3b can be used in other burning programs?08:36
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tom_how can i install codecs manually?08:36
Dr_willis!w32codecs08:36
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:36
Dr_willistom_,  i download the latest .deb files from the mplayer homepage and install them08:37
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sinpathded http//ca ardhive.ubuntu.com\ubuntu/ dapper universe08:37
tom_please understand that the instructions at those pages aren't helping me08:37
shegmananother tip then backup?08:37
tom_because they don't tell you what i've just asked. thankyou08:37
tom_willis, will you help me do that?08:38
Dr_willisdownload the codec packages.. install them.08:38
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Dr_willis:)08:38
sinpathwell i had just confugered my abept with eazy kbuntu08:38
Dr_willisThers some other bot factoid with a better uel...08:39
Dr_willisbut i cant rember it.08:39
Dr_willis!codec08:39
tom_i tried that before, got stuck after placing the codecs in the codecs folder, didn't know what to do next08:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:39
octanscion, any ideas?08:39
sinpaththanks guys08:39
scionoctan: ahh nothing much08:39
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scionoctan: try a space before and after the \n08:40
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Admiral_Chicagoluca_b, i don't think so08:40
abaldwinback again...08:40
luca_bAdmiral_Chicago: argh08:40
sybuxluca_b: Hi again, I've restarted my session and my koffice is working fine now. I think that after the apt-get, some enviroment variables should have to be set in the session. thx for help08:40
Admiral_Chicagoluca_b, what do you want to do?08:41
luca_bsybux: good to know!08:41
abaldwinI reinstalled my fedora install, and succeeded in booting it...I told grub to add kubuntu at hda2, but now, I cant get kubuntu t oboot, why cant I get thse two to play nice?08:41
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octanscion, did that work for you? it didnt for me08:41
luca_bAdmiral_Chicago: I made an image of a burnt CD I have so my friend can test something, but I selected "clone" in the options08:41
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luca_bAdmiral_Chicago: I thought it would produce an ISO anyway08:42
Skrot!msttcorefonts08:42
ubotumsttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB08:42
Skrot!fonts08:42
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto08:42
ubotuNo fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer08:42
scionoctan: to be honest I was judging that on my Java experience, don't know if it would work in x-message08:42
luca_bAdmiral_Chicago: but it's not a big deal if I can't, I'll just rewrite it08:42
scionoctan: does x-message use html by any chance?08:42
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scionoctan: i have no idea!08:43
dhqhow do i change my root and user pass08:43
octanscion i dont know. why you ask that?08:43
dhq!password08:43
ubotuForgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords08:43
dhq!sudo08:43
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:43
scionoctan: a simple <br> might do if it parses html08:43
dhq|lostbyte|:  hello08:43
dhqfdoving: hello08:43
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abattoirbobesponja: sorry, was afk, glad that you resolved it :)08:44
octanscion, nop.08:44
octantest <br> test08:44
abattoirdhq: you helped yourself ;)08:44
tom_willis can you help me install the codec package08:44
dhqabattoir: not yet08:45
abattoirdhq: btw, 'passwd' is the command...08:45
scionthis08:45
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scionthis08:45
tom_i've downloaded it and made a folder at /usr/local/lib08:45
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tom_i don't understand the point of only giving a little bit of advice when people admit they're helpless08:46
dhqabattoir: after i do sudo passwd and change the password it still remains the old one08:46
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abattoirdhq: for your user? or the root user?08:47
dhqroot08:47
Dr_willistom_,  it could be that i am at work..... and have other things to do.08:47
abattoir!root08:47
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:47
abattoirdhq: did you read that page?08:47
Dr_willistom_,  i normally track down the w32codec.deb file and install that.08:47
tom_fair enough, but it's not just you08:47
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tom_yes i've tried that08:48
sciond08:48
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Dr_willisthats worked for me dozens of times tom_  perhaps thers some other issue going on then.08:48
insanekanemaybe xine doesnt look in /usr/local/lib for the codecs08:49
abattoirtom_: you must understand that people here are volunteers, if they can help you, most of them will, its just that they might not have seen your question08:49
abaldwinhello08:49
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abaldwinIm having dificulties trying to dualboot kubu and fedora08:49
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abaldwinI cant seem to get either of them to configure grub to where I can access either08:49
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abaldwinif I install fc first, then kubu, cant boot fedora08:50
Dr_willisplus about any question here. has been asked and answered in the forums or wiki pages08:50
abaldwinif I install kubu first, then fc, cant boot kubu08:50
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abaldwinIm in my fc5 install now, attempting to edit grub.conf t oinclude kubu08:50
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tom_i understand people are volunteers, but i've been asking for help on the same thing for a couple of days and people offer solutions but don't follow through on how to implement solutions....08:50
dhqabattoir: my password file was read only08:51
dec_is there a package that anyone knows about to create asp pages in ubuntu08:51
tom_believe me i've searched the forums, and the wiki08:51
tom_it's not very time efficient08:51
abaldwincan someone tell me again how to find the proper parameters to enter  for kubu? (ie, kernel init and root)?08:51
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dec_is there a package that anyone knows about to create asp pages in ubuntu08:51
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abattoirdhq: again, for root or for your account? if for root, then i'd expect sudo to give you control over it.... it didnt?08:52
arunkaledec_: dont think so08:52
dec_do you know of anything that is close in language08:52
abattoirabaldwin: do you know the initrd.img and kernel locations(in kubuntu) ?08:52
scionasp is MS .NET08:53
Admiral_Chicagoabaldwin, whats the problem08:53
abattoirabaldwin: it generally is in /boot, but i'd need the exact version nos. too08:53
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abattoirabaldwin: sorry, change the 'kernel' location to vmlinuz ;)08:54
abattoir:)08:54
Dr_willistom_,  if youve installed the w32codec package then the stuff should be working.    I have installed the    w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb package.08:54
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Dr_willistom_,  so are you saying ALL videos fail to work.. or some.. or a specific one?08:54
kyaneoshi08:54
kyaneosi have aproblem: kpersonalizer starts everytime i log into kde08:55
Dr_willishttp://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/non-free/ is where i got the codec pac from.08:55
Admiral_ChicagoDr_willis, its in the multiverse i think08:56
abaldwinI do not know the initrd and kernel locations, thats what I think I need08:56
Dr_willisAdmiral_Chicago,  yea i think it is as well.08:56
abaldwinI mounted the kubu partition and cded into boot, but ls says theres nothing in there08:56
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Dr_willis!info win32codec08:56
ubotuPackage win32codec does not exist in any distro I know08:56
Dr_willis!info win32codecs08:56
ubotuPackage win32codecs does not exist in any distro I know08:56
Admiral_Chicagohmm, it is for sure08:57
Dr_willisw32codecs - win32 binary codecs08:57
kyaneoscan somebody help me?08:57
Admiral_Chicagokyaneos, whats the problem?08:57
Dr_willisw32 not win32 :P08:57
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kyaneosAdmiral_Chicago: kpersonalizer starts every time i login08:58
scionkyaneos: sorry do not use kpersonalizer08:58
Admiral_Chicagodo a apt:/ in konqueror08:58
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abattoirkyaneos: yes, that's a know bug, please remove ~/.kde/share/config/kpersonalizerrc08:58
abattoirabaldwin: really? are you sure?08:59
abaldwinhello, how do I figure out the paramenters to give grub to add my kubu install?08:59
tom_no videos are failing, i'm just setting up a fresh install08:59
abaldwinoh...yeah, I mounted the kubu instll partition and cd-ed to /boot did ls, got nothing08:59
Dr_willis!info w32codec08:59
ubotuPackage w32codec does not exist in any distro I know08:59
abaldwinI had fc installe first, then instlled kubu, then couldnt boot to fedora.08:59
Dr_willis!info w32codecs08:59
Dr_willisGrr :P08:59
ubotuw32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In component extras, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (dapper-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB (Only available for i386)08:59
abaldwinso I reinstalled fedora, and now cant boot kubu08:59
Admiral_Chicagoabaldwin, i think its /boot/grub/menu.lst09:00
Admiral_Chicagonot sure09:00
abattoirabaldwin: do other files exist in the 'kubuntu partition' ?09:00
abaldwinbut the grub entry for kubu looks like it has nothing09:00
Dr_willisso you should be able to enable the extras repository, and apt-get install w32codecs09:00
abaldwinoh yeah, I can see verything there, /home, /mnt , /usr,...everything09:00
Admiral_Chicagoabaldwin, check fdisk -l09:00
Admiral_Chicagomight be a different name09:00
tom_right, i tried this before, but didn't know what to do with the deb09:00
abaldwindo I enter # check fdisk -1?09:00
abaldwinOr just do # fdisk -109:01
abattoirabaldwin: i dont think you can boot it if you dont have an initrd img or vmlinuz... try searching for it in that partition09:01
lupine_85l (as in m), surely? not 1 (as in 2)09:01
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abaldwinshould be in /boot, shouldnt it?09:01
abaldwinit was before I reinstalled gc09:01
abaldwinis there anyone here that has a dualboot with FC andKubu?09:02
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abaldwinit seems like whichever I install last takes over and rewrites grub and disallows or hoses the /boot int he other09:02
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abattoirabaldwin: yes, it should be there, once you find it, you can add an entry for Kubuntu similar to the entry for FC(just modify the appropriate lines, for eg. hd(0,2), if kubuntu is in hda3 etc.)09:03
abattoir!grub09:03
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto09:03
abattoirabaldwin: ^^^ that might also help you09:03
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abattoirabaldwin: i'm surprised that Kubuntu's Grub doesnt conatin an entry for FC5 when you install it09:03
abattoirabaldwin: i have to go now, so hope that helps...09:04
fdovinghi.09:04
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abattoirhi fdoving :)09:04
arunkaleok kids09:04
arunkalei'm off to bed09:04
fdovinghi abattoir.09:04
abattoirarunkale: hah, we've now become the kids? :P09:04
arunkalehahahaha09:04
abattoirarunkale: g'night :)09:05
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arunkalegood night :)09:05
abattoirand only Tm_T can call us kids :)09:05
tom_well i downloaded w32codecs and did sudo dpkg -i was that the right thing to do?09:05
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arunkalei'm just fooling around man09:05
arunkaleheh09:05
arunkalesee ya!09:05
abattoiras was i :)09:05
Dr_willistom_,  thats what ive done in the past.09:05
arunkalekompose is excellent, btw09:05
abaldwinkubu didnt even give me an option to add another OS to grub, but fedora does, just, apparently, doesnt add it properly09:05
abaldwinthanks for your help09:05
Dr_willisor with the right repos set up. you can just apt-get install it.09:06
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tom_seems to have installed properly09:07
sync00hey, how do I install a printer on kubuntu.. i can't seem to find a way to do so?09:07
tom_ended on09:07
tom_Unpacking w32codecs (from codecs.deb) ...09:07
tom_Setting up w32codecs (20060611-1plf1) ...09:07
Dr_willishot-babe_0.2.2-1plf6.06_i386.deb    :)09:07
Dr_willisnow thats a great program also.09:08
fdovingtom_, sounds like success :)09:08
fdovingsync00: system settings -> printers09:08
trappistDr_willis: I turned that into a gkrellm plugin once :)09:08
tom_yes except mp3s are still not playing...09:08
Tm_Tabattoir & kids09:08
Tm_T;-P09:08
Dr_willishmm w32codecs dont have to do with mp3's as far as i can rember...09:08
Dr_willisthey are the video codecs.09:08
tom_oh ffs09:08
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Dr_willis!mp309:08
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:08
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tom_right thanks for trying to help but i didn't say i was trying to install video codecs09:09
Dr_willisHmm they need to tweak the urls a but in the bots info.09:09
sync00fdoving: what if printers isn't there?09:09
fdovingtom_, are you looking for mp3 support?09:09
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tom_yes09:09
kkathmanDr_willis:  is that the chess program?09:09
sciontom_: libxine-extracodecs09:09
fdovingtom_ http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s09:09
Dr_willisactually i think the mp3 support is part of the gstreamer files.09:09
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trappistDr_willis: http://linuxkungfu.org/files/src/gkrellhotbabe-0.1.tar.bz209:09
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trappistDr_willis: if you use gkrellm09:09
fdovingDr_willis: not on dapper, for breezy that is true.09:09
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tom_i've tried installing libxine-extracodecs before09:10
tom_i get09:10
tom_Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.09:10
fdovingtom_, then enable multiverse.09:11
tom_i have, as far as i can see09:11
fdovinghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu09:11
ubuntuhabe ein problem mit meinem linksys-router wer kann mir helfen09:11
fdoving!de09:11
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:11
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abaldwinplease....does anyone know how I cn dual boot kubuntu and fedora?  each attempt has fail.  whichever I install last takes over grub and doesnt allow te other09:12
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scionok lads i have a question09:12
abaldwinwhen I edited grub from kubu attempt to boot fedora gave kernel panic, reinstalled fedora, now cant boot kubu09:12
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sinpathok i followed out the restricted formats intel & still i the format i try to use is unavelble09:13
scionanyone know how to get the middle button of my mouse working?09:13
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scioni have a three button sun microsystems mouse09:13
scionand its usb09:13
abaldwinall I can find online is how to dualboot linux and windows.  I, just trying to dual boot 2 linux distros09:13
Dr_willistrappist,  woot... anime-porn-cpu-monitors rule. :P09:13
ubuntuhabe nach kubuntu installation kein Internet zugang und kann auch nicht mehr auf den Router zugreifen09:14
lupine_85!anime-porn-cpu-monitors09:14
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about anime-porn-cpu-monitors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:14
Dr_willisabaldwin,  you need to create the correct grub stanza to boot the other os then.09:14
lupine_85:'(09:14
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BonBonTheJonhow do i merge kopete logs09:14
Dr_willistom_,  dont forget to 'sudo apt-get update' to rescan the repo lists after altering the repos.09:14
Dr_willisHmm.. now how to get gkrellm to go into a kde panel nicely09:15
abaldwinfirst I install fc then kunu, couldnt boot fc, edited menu.lst, tried to boot fc got kernel panich09:15
abaldwinnow, reinstlld fc, attempt to boot kubu gives entry not found, presently attempting to edit grub.conf to include kubu, but cant find the kernel and init parameters to give grub09:16
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abaldwinI mounted the kubu partition and cd-ed to /boot, and cant find anything, now09:18
BonBonTheJonwhere would I find information about how kopete keeps its logs09:18
cbodoes someone know how to make a legacy midi joystick work with kubuntu?09:18
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LockUpHas Ubuntu standard KDE-control panel?09:19
LockUp*Kubuntu09:19
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tom_somehow i enabled universe but neglected to uncomment multiverse09:19
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tom_apt-get updating now09:19
fdovingLockUp: yes, but it's hidden by default. alt+f2 type 'kcontrol' and run.09:19
tom_still running slowly though09:20
LockUpHidden? :o it isn't good idea09:20
LockUpIt should be in menu. :)09:20
altair_does anyone play RTS games in kubuntu?, suggestions?09:20
tom_do i have to wait for apt-get update to finish before i can install things from the console?09:20
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scionanyone help me with a 3 button mouse?09:21
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scionanyone?09:23
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Dr_willisscion,  what is it not doing? just not working?09:23
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fdovingshould work out of the box afaik.09:23
cbodoes someone know how to make a legacy midi joystick work with kubuntu?09:24
fdovinghaven't setup a mouse since.. years ago.09:24
scionfdoving: it works except the middle button09:24
scionfdoving: i want to be able to hold middle button and move up/down or left/right and firefox or any other windows scrollbars move in that direction also... if you catch my drift?09:25
fdovingscion: understand.. hang on.. connecting a usb mouse.09:25
HawkwindWasn't there a big discussion about that being added to Edgy in firefox in a meeting a week or two ago ?09:26
scionfdoving: cheers and it does not have a wheel, got it free at a java programmers conference and really like it09:26
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fdovingscion: cool, get one for me too, mine says "microsoft"  :|09:28
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mrbrdoscion: dunno if this helps, but i know logitech drivers do that on windows :P09:28
scionhehe, fdoving if i can i'll let you know... for real09:28
fdovingdoes this feature hava a name? click and drag for scrolling?09:28
sinpathhey does any one know about the grip (cd ripper)09:29
fdovingscion: great, thanks in advance :)09:29
main2how do i install this .deb on my machine.. http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Funiverse%2Fv%2Fvlc%2Fvlc_0.8.6-svn20060823.debian-3ubuntu1_i386.deb&md5sum=091eb72056b2b319dc3a31ac3ba5707f&arch=i386&type=main ???09:29
scionfdoving: i do not know, tried googling but eventually gave up09:29
zorglu_main2: get it thru the repository ?09:29
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scionmain2: download the file to desktop09:29
scionmain2: cd ~/desktop09:29
main2scion: done, but then it leaves me with a lot of 'unfullfilled dependencies'09:30
scionmain2: dpkg -i nameoffile.deb09:30
main2dpkg -i name.deb ... >>09:30
main2vlc depends on libasound2 (>> 1.0.11); however:09:30
main2  Version of libasound2 on system is 1.0.10-2ubuntu4.09:30
sinpathcan any one tell me how good grip works for linuxs?09:30
main2and this for a lot more packages09:30
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scionmain2: well its better done using Adept, that collects dependencies required09:30
zorglu_main2: you should use the repository with adept/apt-get and not download it directly09:31
main2scion: yes, but i need this version09:31
fdovingscion: what programs does have this click and hold to scroll feature?09:31
main2the 0.8.4 in the dapper repository is 'damaged' lets say09:31
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scionfdoving: many, an example would be a firefox window09:32
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main2zorglu_: well, if i knew how to install this package trough adept....09:32
scionmain2: whats so special about an older version of vlc player?09:32
main2scion 0.8.4 has problems with h26409:33
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fdovingscion: my firefox doesn't do that, is it a extension or addon or something?09:34
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zorglu_main2: ok if you want to install by hand, even if it is clearly much harder than using repository, the process in itself is quite simple, install yourself all the dependencies09:35
scionfdoving: another example would be viewing a large image at full size where there are both horizontal and vertical scrollbars09:35
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main2zorglu_: that will take days09:35
main2because the deps of those deps can have deps ;)09:36
zorglu_main2: yep, but you said you wanted to do it :)09:36
main2did i?09:36
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zorglu_main2: yes :) the point is how bad you want this ? do you want to do yourself the job usually done by people contributing ? or to wait for them to do it ?09:38
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sinpathwhen some one is talking about gnome is that like linux to?09:38
kkathmansinpath:  yes, just a different desktop gui09:39
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sinpathok so if i get a prog for gnome it should work with what i have?09:39
zorglu_sinpath: yes, you can run kde or gnome programm on kubuntu09:40
kkathmansinpath:  depend on if you have the gnome dependencies installed09:40
kkathmanand vice versa of course09:41
sinpathoh good cause  i was thinking of getting grip but said i had to have The Gnome2 desktop09:41
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zorglu_grip is the normal 'side' of the kde 'k3b' ... to simplify :)09:42
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zorglu_in theory you dont need the whole gnome-desktop for that09:42
sinpath gnome dependencies installed ?09:42
sinpathok so what do i need then?09:43
zorglu_only the libraries.. it is a 'bogus package' aka it went a bit too wide on the dependency09:43
moparisthebeston the command line, how can you show your RAM usage?09:43
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zorglu_sinpath: you need the library on which grip depends09:43
zorglu_moparisthebest: type "free"09:44
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sinpathok were would i find that intel?09:44
moparisthebestthank you zorglu_ :)09:44
Hawkwindmoparisthebest: free -m is a bit more human readable if you prefer :)09:44
moparisthebestok, thanks09:45
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zorglu_well not that much better :)09:45
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moparisthebestIt rounds them off at the mb level :)09:45
Hawkwindzorglu_: Easier to understand atleast09:45
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ronnylinuxhi guys i really want solve this problem09:49
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sinpathwhats the problem?09:49
ronnylinuxi got this error09:49
ronnylinuxThe APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.09:49
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ronnylinuxhow can i solve this09:49
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pure_morninghi09:50
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sinpathok go to k> system>adept> hit get updates09:51
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ronnylinuxsinpath the message continues09:52
ronnylinuxi found in forums that i have a problem with source.list09:52
scionany luck fdoving09:52
sinpathhumm i dont know what else to tell you09:53
ronnylinuxthanks anyway09:53
sinpathnp keep asking im sure another person can help09:54
ronnylinuxsure09:54
ronnylinuxi got this error, does anybody can help me: The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.09:54
steveireIs there a handy app to help me make simple html webpages? Preferable a kde app.09:55
fdovingscion: no, trying to find out what this feature is called.09:55
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hemersonone site for themes kubuntu?09:56
sinpathgoogle it09:56
sinpathhemerson09:56
Dr_willistheres a lot of kde themes in the repos - not isntalled by default as well09:56
hemerson:(09:56
hemersonone site specific09:56
sinpath>.< ya i have a hard time finding desktops lol09:57
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tdogHI.. I need to install window on same system as linux . would it be better to install window first , then install linux ?09:58
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fdovingscion: ok, i have something. try editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the mouse section, add: Option "EmulateWheel" "true" and  Option "EmulateWheelButton" "2"10:01
Dr_willistdog,  windows first, then ubuntu10:01
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nagyvif I can listen to radio on my mobile, and have a data cable, then is there a way to listen to the radio with my laptop connected to the mobile?10:01
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altair_tdog: install windows first, then linux10:02
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simo#italia10:02
simoce qualche italiano??10:02
nagyv!it > simo10:03
fdovingscion: like this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25826.html10:03
nagyv!hu > nagyv10:03
fdovingscion: be aware that pasting with the middle mousebutton will be disabled. you'll have to use left and right at the same time to paste.10:03
fdoving!no > fdoving10:04
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eventhi all10:05
eventwho me make download icons theme?10:05
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scionfdoving: thank you10:05
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nagyvevent: you can get them in the system settings, where you can select the icon theme10:05
scionyou want new icons event?10:05
ronnylinuxi got this error, does anybody can help me: The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.10:05
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eventscion yes man10:06
eventnews icons theme10:06
nagyvevent: you can get them in the system settings, where you can select the icon theme10:06
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scionevent: http://www.kde-look.org is a good place for icons10:06
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nagyvronnylinux: then try running sudo apt-get update ;)10:06
eventscion i have started download but the file is .tar.gz :\ its not .thmee10:06
scionevent: that is ok10:06
eventbut .tar.gz its not acepted :\10:07
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ronnylinuxnagyv i tried that, but the problem continue10:07
scionevent: give me the link to the iconset10:07
eventman anyone icon theme in this site its .tar.gz :\10:08
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supertankerJust out of curisosity10:08
supertankerWHY the heck doesn't Kubuntu come with make?10:08
eventlol10:08
lupine_85it does :D10:08
Dr_willisnormal user/desktop system does not need the gcc compiler system  :P10:09
supertankerseriously10:09
eventscion u have icons themes?10:09
lupine_85just not installed by default10:09
scionevent go to system settings>appearence>icons and press install new theme button, then point to the gzipped tarball you downloaded10:09
fdovingsupertanker: regular desktop-users doesn't need it. and those who need it know how to get it.10:09
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Dr_willisits trivial to isntall build-essential10:09
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supertankerNot when all the packages are in the virtual group10:09
lupine_85personally, I'd be a bit annoyed if kubuntu-desktop depended on the whole repo10:09
nagyvsupertanker: because it's a user friendly linux. Have you ever built anything under windows?10:09
supertankeryes.10:09
Dr_willisand if you are going to have that installed.. then where do you stop? how abou all the -dev packages...10:09
supertankerBZFlag-2.0.410:09
lupine_85it's good fun, wot? ;)10:09
scionevent: its not a theme, its an iconset10:09
eventman10:09
eventin program i cant see the button :\10:10
supertankerso is there any way to get it to install it by default?10:10
Dr_willisa theme is often composed of servarl parts. an icon set, window decoration, and.. err somting else..10:10
Dr_willisbrbl10:10
scionevent: i will post a screenshot10:10
poseidonHow can I get transluceny/shadows?10:10
sinpathok guys how do install java?10:10
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supertankerwhy is everything in the virtual group?10:10
eventscion ok thkx10:10
main2could anyone tell me what the latest available version is of VLC in the multiverse?10:11
eventscion after, give me a link on pvt ok?10:11
main2of dapper offcial repos.10:11
nickv111I don't understand this: my kaffeine can't play any media, while mplayer can10:11
lupine_85!info vlc dapper10:11
ubotuvlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB10:11
nickv111For example, I gave kaffeine a .avi that it can't play, but mplayer can play it10:11
nickv111Every time I give kaffeine a file, it's unable to play it, while mplayer has no problem10:11
ronnylinux i got this error, does anybody can help me: The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.10:11
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supertankerI have to say, the entire apt system leaves a bit to be desired10:12
lostwarsDid you try to run update?10:12
eventscion in momment u upload screen?10:12
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sinpathi already told him & he still gets it10:12
scionevent: be patient10:13
ryanakcafdoving: ping10:13
eventok ty10:13
scionevent: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2470310:13
eventbrb smook10:13
ronnylinuxyes i tried losstwars the problem continue10:13
eventty10:13
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lostwarsWell don't feel bad. Someone here knows what to do. Heck I can't even get gkrellm to start when I boot my system.10:14
lostwarsWhats the name of the file where I can make a program run at KDE start-up?10:14
eventman10:14
event:\10:14
ronnylinuxi don't want to reinstall kubuntu, in some forums i read this is a serious problem10:14
ronnylinuxwho can help me?10:14
eventscion: i know install de theme but the file is not .theme :\ its a .tar.gz10:14
sinpathif arunkale was on he could10:15
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nagyvronnylinux: try also the #ubuntu channel10:16
sinpathdoes  any one know how i can install java?10:16
scionevent: one second, go have your smoke and i will have an answer for you10:16
fdovingryanakca: ack.10:17
altair_steveire: you can try nvu or quanta plus, though you can even write webpages in a simple editor:  kwrite and kate are good.10:17
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eventscion back10:17
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scionevent I took down a file called SnowIsh-kde-1.3_build.tar.bz210:18
scionevent: that installed fine for me the way I told you10:18
event:X10:18
steveireI've got quanta now altair_, yeah, looks like the business. It's a lot to get into by the look of it though. I think I'll just need to read about tables and use KAte10:18
eventw8 please10:18
steveirealtair_: Have you used Quanta10:19
steveire?10:19
steveireI can't seem to find any preview of the page I make.10:19
eventscion my icons are http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=4460910:19
eventi downloaded10:19
sciondownloading now10:20
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altair_steveire: yup, though i prefer a simple editor and good reference for hatm and css10:20
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eventok w810:20
altair_html i meant10:20
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ronnylinuxi got this error, does anybody can help me: The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.10:21
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scionevent: except when i click download button it opens an image10:21
eventyes10:21
eventlol10:21
eventi download others icons10:21
eventw810:21
scionwheres the tar.qzip10:22
aztunronnylinux: look at your processes and kill everything related to apt or adept10:22
scion*gzip10:22
eventdone10:22
eventscion http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3870710:22
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aztunor reboot your computer10:22
eventi downloaded that10:22
eventname of the file is 38707-Plasti-K-beta-icon-theme-0.000.b.30.tar10:22
sinpathronnylinux try the #ubuntu channel for more intel on your problem10:22
eventnow i install new theme icons and i cant :X10:22
altair_steveire:  usually visual editors get in the way of good html code, i highly recommend getting a good grasp of html and css first10:23
steveireI don't intend to be a pro at this stuff, but yeah, I'll have a look at some html stuff.10:23
altair_steveire: doing that, any editor with sixtax highlight suffices10:24
steveireWell, quanta has code completion and suggestion too, which is a big plus in my book.10:25
scionevent: sorry, can't help its a messed up prob you got there10:25
altair_steveire:  yup, it's ok10:25
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Buffy-_http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3418810:26
eventok ty anyone10:26
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altair_steveire:  www.w3schools.com, www.csszengarden.com   are good references10:29
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nagyvI think that my laptop has a TV-tuner card, but I don't know wheather it is recognized. How could I check it? (Asus a2500d)10:30
altair_steveire: I suggest getting the web developer extension in firefox too, it's a big help10:30
scionsteveire: i use kate to write the code and firefox to preview10:30
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altair_scion: me too10:31
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nickv111nagyv: What makes you think that you have a TV tuner card?10:31
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steveireOh, I have a web developer set up for firefox already. I've learned heaps of javascript. I used Kate for that of course. I'd just like an easy way to have my tables set out for me and to preview the resulting html in real time. No substitute for w3schooling though I know.10:32
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nagyvnickv111: there is a a tv-like icon near one of the ports10:32
scionaltair_: its the only way to be, WYSWYG editors destroy your code10:32
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marcelloDoItBeTtciao10:33
marcelloDoItBeTtho bisogno d'aiuto...10:33
nagyvsteveire: as I know nvu is very wysiwyg, but I have never used it10:33
nickv111marcelloDoItBeTt: Adios10:33
nagyvmarcelloDoItBeTt: !it10:33
nagyv!it10:33
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!10:33
altair_scion: totally agree10:33
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steveirenagyv: I assume there's some wysiwyg stuff in quanta, but it's a bit hidden to me...10:34
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nickv111Perhaps this is an opportunity to brush up on my Spanish skills ;)10:34
nagyvsteveire: I don't know, I code tables by hand too :)10:34
nagyvnickv111: noooo, help me with my tv-card! :)10:35
nickv111nagyv: L'see10:35
nickv111nagyv: Hmm. I don't know where to begin. I suppose an "lspci" would be in order10:35
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nagyvnickv111: and what should I look for?10:36
altair_steveire:  last time iI used quanta it didn't have any visual edition but thats better, wysiwyg gets in the way in the long term10:37
tolkanDOes anyone know how to stop the kwallet10:38
tolkanfrom asking all those damn passwords everytime i startup?10:38
Dr_willislook in the kwallet settings...10:38
Dr_willisit has an abundance of options10:38
steveirealtair_: wysiwyg isn't even that important to me. I'd just like to avoid Save file > alt-tab to ff > f5 to see result of updates. If I could display what I was doing in an ide, tat would be better. I'm not above learning how to do it properly. I just want to see the result where I'm working.10:38
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steveires/tat/that10:39
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tolkanDr_willis: yes i have done that.  the options arent working.  when my K session starts up, the first application that wants to use the wallet asks me for my wallet password.  Then every application after that does not.  H10:39
nagyvnickv111: I have only a TV-out :(10:39
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eventscion are u there?10:40
nagyvtolkan: actually this is kwallet is for, as far as I know10:41
juanlinares79hi!someone knows how to install mac/ubuntu/windows into a pc amd athlon?10:41
tolkannagyv: is there a way to bind kwallet to authenticate when i logon through KDM?10:41
eventi try install a theme to linux, i see the install.txt file and i write in console ./configure but error ocurred:10:42
eventconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH10:42
eventSee `config.log' for more details.10:42
eventsomebody help me?10:42
altair_steveire:  oh well, i just got used to doing things that way long time ago..10:42
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tolkanevent: do apt-get install build-essential10:43
tolkanevent: that will install compilers so you can build stuff on your installation10:43
altair_steveire:  so l got less dependent on a particular tool10:43
eventtolkan who me identify root?10:44
fdovingscion: if you want this scrolling feature in konqueror; inside konq -> settings -> configure konqueror -> uncheck "middle click opens selected web address"10:44
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eventtolkan do u know?10:45
tolkanevent: you'll have to do install as root.  if thats what you mean.10:45
eventbut who me identify a root?10:45
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troyevent: use your regular password in 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'10:45
eventsudo ?10:46
eventah10:46
eventty10:46
eventand sorry my english, im portuguese :P10:46
troyevent: no problem :)10:46
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eventty ;p10:46
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nickv111If only everyone could learn Esperanto10:47
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troynickv111: klingon is better :)10:49
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nagyvhow can I configure irda on my laptop? (asus a2500d)10:49
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mikefooOk so I have a NAS device mounted and dd reports that I copied 1G of data at 290MB/sec over a gigabit link, isn't the max 80MB/sec'ish ?10:50
scionthanks fdoving10:50
zorglu_mikefoo: linux is fast :) or morelikely it is not yet flushed ?10:51
troymikefoo: sure it isn't Mb instead of MB?10:51
Buffy-_thats megabit10:51
Buffy-_MB Byte, Mb bit10:51
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lupine_85and Mn nibble :p10:52
Buffy-_FA10:52
steveirealtair_, nagyv: Not sure if you're interested, but I had another look at quanta, and it previews if you press f6.10:52
zorglu_it is why i always say mbit or mbyte instead to avoid such confusion :)10:52
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nagyvsteveire: thx, but not really :)10:52
steveirehehe10:53
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Buffy-_not a bad idea, but i would have thought that those that dont know the difference between MB and Mb would also not know the difference between mbit and mbyte10:53
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eventtroy do u know me install amule?10:54
zorglu_i do that mainly because i never remember which abreviation representes which unit :)10:54
troyevent: nope, I use ktorrent10:54
eventty10:54
eventsomebody knows?10:54
=== lupine_85 apt-get install amule :p
altair_steveire: thank you for the tip.10:54
eventdanke10:54
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peteHow do I add support for .wmv?10:55
lupine_85!plf10:55
zorglu_!restricted10:55
ubotuplf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc10:55
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:55
lupine_85!w32codecs10:55
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peteThanks =)10:55
JonTec__can I make a Shared Documents folder on the network for my linux computer (it's one of those low level "home or small office networks")10:55
troyI don't recommend plf unless nothing else works...10:55
Buffy-_!beer10:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:55
supertankerI convert all mine to .flac or .ogg10:55
Buffy-_!birds and the bees10:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about birds and the bees - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:56
Buffy-_had to do it10:56
Buffy-_lool10:56
petehaha10:56
Buffy-_needed a "the" in there10:56
JonTec__!libxine-extracodecs10:56
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB10:56
=== pete wonders if sudo apt-get install * will yield promising results =P
troyhahaha, you'd likely run out of space :)10:57
JonTec__!yo mamma10:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about yo mamma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:57
lupine_85You'd need to use \*10:57
JonTec__ahaha10:57
Buffy-_:D10:57
petehaha10:57
lupine_85!botsnack10:57
ubotuYum!10:57
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Buffy-_!spam10:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:58
Buffy-_oh10:58
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troypete: well, the dapper->edgy conversion is something like 966 files for me, at 700MB... so considering there's some several thousand packages in the system...10:58
pete!women10:58
ubotuThe women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.10:58
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peteGah10:58
peteThat didn't work as expected -_-10:58
supertankerlol10:58
petetroy: Yeah. My box would probably blow up =P10:58
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poseidon!men10:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about men - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:59
Buffy-_lol10:59
troysome op should put a gereral ban on this channel for people that IRC as root10:59
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pete!bathing11:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bathing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:00
peteWe should probably stop this now =P11:00
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peteYeah, my bad.11:00
Buffy-_fun while it lasted11:01
altair_!easyubuntu11:01
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.11:01
zorglu_!men11:01
altair_!vlc11:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about men - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:01
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs11:01
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altair_you can use easyubuntu or videlolan vlc to add support for wmv11:02
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draikHello everyone11:03
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m3xican!apache11:04
ubotuoffically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)11:04
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dekwhere are .sh scripts located?11:04
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draikIf I have i686 installed/running, but still have the linux-module-386 not being upgraded or such, what do I do to remove it from my list of pending upgrades? Or what happens if I were to install it?11:05
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fleissigfionais there a way to save your session status so that some programs in certain desktops will come up automatically when you start up11:08
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draikfleissigfiona, create a link to them under  ~/.kde/Autostart/11:09
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troyfleissigfiona: and if you want to give them parameters, like which desktop to autostart on, lauch them with kstart instead of directly11:10
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supertankeris there a text-based installer for Kubuntu that doesn't involve me downloading a CD on dialup?11:16
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supertankerfor Kubuntu 6.06?11:17
TheGateKeepersupertanker: the only text installer I know is the alternate CD11:17
supertankerthat sucks11:17
fleissigfionatroy: where is kstart?11:18
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poseidon"whereis kstart"11:19
supertankerlogical11:19
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fleissigfionawhereis kstart11:20
TheGateKeepersupertanker: not sure what ubuntu send you in the post, but you can linux install CD's, various web sites do it11:20
fleissigfiona?11:20
zorglu_wow just spotted a japanese box trying to crack mine11:20
draikfleissigfiona, in Konsole11:20
lupine_85in terminal :)11:20
fleissigfionaoh ahah11:20
troykstart is a command line program that can be used to launch other programs11:20
m3xican!dosfsck11:20
fleissigfionayes just worked that out11:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dosfsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:20
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fleissigfionagood11:20
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lupine_85fsck.vfat11:20
troyit accepts parameters to specify desktop #, size, etc.11:21
lupine_85zorglu_: I get a lot from Russia11:21
lupine_85rsa++11:21
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menacewhen i try to open adept, it says its already running, but its not, is there a way to fix this?11:21
poseidonzorglu_: how can you tell?11:22
zorglu_lupine_85: mine is rather unskilled, dictionnary attack on ssh. but what worry me is how does it get on my sshd, aka thru the firewall11:22
lupine_85zorglu_: ipv6 ?11:22
zorglu_poseidon: weird traffic and then /var/log/auth.log11:22
TheGateKeepermenace: sudo killall adept11:22
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menacethegatekeeper: it says no process killed11:23
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TheGateKeepermenace: you clicking on the menu item?11:24
menaceyes11:24
menaceand the box pops up and asks for my password11:24
ahmad_how to disable the root account? i had enabled it11:25
menaceYou will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one11:25
menacethats my error11:25
TheGateKeeperso put your password in and press ok11:25
menacei got that error though ^^^11:25
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menacethis just started a few days ago....11:26
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luca_bmenace: sudo killall adept_updater11:27
TheGateKeepermenace: logging off & logging on does not sort it?11:27
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troyahmad_: sudo passwd -l root11:27
menaceno, ive tried that gate keeper11:27
menaceluca_b:adept_updater: no process killed11:28
TheGateKeepertry luca_b suggestion11:28
luca_bmenace: hmmm11:28
ahmad_ok troy... thnx11:28
luca_bmenace: execute sudo apt-get update on the terminal11:28
luca_bmenace: (I need to check which file is in use)11:29
TheGateKeepermenace: now for the sledge hammer: sudo rm -f <--- try if locked11:29
menaceE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.11:29
luca_bok11:29
luca_bmenace: just do that11:29
menacethe "sudo rm -f" thing?11:29
luca_bsudo dpkg --configure -a11:29
menaceok11:29
fdoving!adept crash fix11:29
ubotuIf adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this command in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock'11:29
TheGateKeepermenace: no11:29
fdovingmenace: ^^11:29
menace... too many things11:29
menacewhich one?11:29
fdovingmine.11:29
fdoving:)11:29
luca_bfdoving: that was the thing!11:29
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luca_bfdoving: I forgot about the lock11:30
TheGateKeepermenace: you have broken packages you need to fix them before going further, do what it says in the error message11:30
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menacei did the dpkg thing,11:32
menaceand i go this errror11:32
ukjadoonhello all11:32
menaceSetting up lkl (0.1.1-1) ...11:33
menaceSetting up flashplugin-nonfree (7.0.68~ubuntu1~dapper1) ...11:33
menaceDownloading...  done.11:33
menaceusage: update-rc.d [-n]  [-f]  <basename> remove11:33
menace       update-rc.d [-n]  <basename> defaults [NN | sNN kNN] 11:33
menace       update-rc.d [-n]  <basename> start|stop NN runlvl [runlvl]  [...]  .11:33
menace                -n: not really11:33
fdovingmenace: please don't paste in the channel11:33
menace                -f: force11:33
fdoving!pastebiun11:33
menacedpkg: error processing flashplugin-nonfree (--configure):11:33
fdoving!pastebin11:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastebiun - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:33
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:33
menace subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 111:33
menaceErrors were encountered while processing:11:33
menace flashplugin-nonfree11:33
menacewow i didnt think it'd do that....11:33
menacesorry11:33
menaceyes sorry11:33
ukjadooni tried the ubuntu forum but i guess everyone's kinda busy there i needed heeeeeeeeelp my kubuntu as well as ubunty 6.06 setup hangs up at the mounting root screen and it is getting on my nervers =(11:33
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TheGateKeepermenace: can you uninstall the flash plugin?11:34
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luca_bmenace: that's a known issue11:34
ukjadooni tried removing one of my 2 dvd drives, i tried adding the root= command as well as the irqpoll command but nothing works it just doesn't get past that11:34
menacehow could i do it?11:34
luca_bmenace: if you know enough of the command line, you can fix it11:34
ukjadooni am so pissed i just got my shipment of the cds today and nothing works #$%#$%^#$%11:35
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luca_bmenace: let's try this11:35
luca_bhey zorglu_11:35
zorglu_hey11:35
menacek sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree?11:35
luca_bmenace:no11:35
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luca_bmenace: do a sudo cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.postinst11:35
luca_ber11:35
luca_bwait, forgot a part11:35
menaceok11:35
zorglu_luca_b: my isp updated remotly by asdl modem and fails to tell me he removed the firewall conf11:35
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luca_b cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.postinst  | grep multiuser11:36
TheGateKeeperluca_b: he want rid of the damn thing11:36
luca_bzorglu_: erf11:36
zorglu_for the last 8days i had people trying to guess my passwd11:36
luca_bTheGateKeeper: that is just a bug in the post-install script11:36
troyso far edgy update is running smoothly...11:36
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TheGateKeeperluca_b: you found a workaround?11:36
luca_bTheGateKeeper: yeah11:37
menaceupdate-rc.d flashplugin-nonfree multiuser >/dev/null11:37
menacethats good?11:37
luca_byes so11:37
ukjadoonhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i guess there is no workaround for the dapper 6.06 mounting root problem :(11:37
luca_bdo this11:37
luca_bonbe sec11:37
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TheGateKeeperluca_b: you posted this workaround anywhere?, I removed it and installed a debian one11:38
luca_bsudo sed -i -e 's/multiuser/defaults/g' /var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.postinst11:38
menacei do that?11:38
luca_byes11:38
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luca_bTheGateKeeper: just told that around here11:38
luca_bafter executing that command, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-nonfree11:39
altair_!lamp11:39
ubotuoffically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)11:39
luca_bit's just a "typo" in the post-installation script11:40
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menace        /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: flashplugin-nonfree is broken or not fully installed11:40
luca_bhmm11:40
luca_bsudo dpkg --configure -a11:40
menaceok it re downloaded11:41
menacenow what11:41
luca_bit gave you a prompt? no more errors?11:41
menaceyes11:41
luca_bfixed11:41
menacethank you very much11:41
menacewas it just that my flash plugin went corrupt?11:41
luca_bmenace: yes11:41
menaceok11:41
luca_bmenace: not corrupted, jyust a typo in the script that went unnoticed11:42
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menaceok11:42
menaceall is working fine11:42
menacethanks luca11:42
luca_bIs there a place where I could put this thing up? I believe thsi affected many11:42
ElectrolyteWow, that was the first time I've ever seen nano crash, and use 100% CPU in the background.11:42
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menaceadept is wanting to upgrade my flashplugin now...should i go ahead and update it?11:44
luca_bmenace: yes, that fixes the problem you workarounded at the root11:44
TheGateKeeperluca_b: well hope you don't mind, I have put it on my page of bits & bobs: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home211:44
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menaceok11:44
luca_bTheGateKeeper: go ahead, it's no problem11:44
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luca_bOne could have just edited the file, but I wanted to use some shell magic 8P11:45
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TheGateKeeperluca_b: thanx, don't know if anyone will visit it, but at least it's there :-)11:45
menacewhats the URL gatekeeper?11:46
TheGateKeeperluca_b: do you know if the firefox updates are safe to do?11:46
TheGateKeepermenace: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home211:46
menacek11:46
luca_bTheGateKeeper: usually yes11:47
TheGateKeepermenace: it's just my collection of bits & pieces I have found usefull11:47
luca_bTheGateKeeper: updated without problem here11:47
menacenice11:47
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ukjadooni can't get past the mounting root... thingy, both in ubuntu and kubuntu, someone please help me =( i cannot proceed to install ubuntu or kubuntu 6.06 cause of this11:48
TheGateKeeperluca_b: right thanx, I don't trust them anymore after this flash problem & the X problem, so I ask now :-)11:48
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luca_bTheGateKeeper: other distros have far worse packaging problems, I'd say11:48
TheGateKeepermenace: hope you find it usefull11:48
menaceyes i do11:48
luca_bukjadoon: what is the error you get when mounting?11:48
ukjadoonwell thank u so much for listening luca_b11:49
luca_bukjadoon: try putting this at the prompt11:49
ukjadoonwell it just hangs up there11:49
luca_bukjadoon: install CD or live CD?11:49
ukjadoonwell i just got 1 cd with my shipment11:49
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luca_bok it's the live11:49
ukjadoonyeah11:50
ukjadoonit just hangs up there11:50
ukjadoonnothing happens11:50
luca_bukjadoon: at the prompt11:50
ukjadoonfor almost 10 minutes11:50
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luca_bukjadoon: type "live noapic" without quotes11:50
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ukjadoonohhh11:50
TheGateKeeperluca_b: well gentoo proving a bastard to install, just installed kororaa (faster way to install gentoo) & I am still going to have to spend a couple of hours fixing stuff before I can start to use it11:50
ukjadooni should type this after the thing hangs up?11:50
luca_bukjadoon: when you boot up11:51
luca_bukjadoon: it should say "press RETURN" etc etc etc11:51
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ukjadoonwhen i boot up i get 5 options i think11:51
TheGateKeeperluca_b: thanx for the fix :-)11:51
ukjadooni have to install or run it live11:51
luca_bukjadoon: there is something like "boot: " written down, right11:51
ukjadoonsorry lol i am a newbie11:51
luca_bTheGateKeeper: np11:51
luca_bukjadoon: at that prompt11:51
luca_bukjadoon: write "live noapic"11:51
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ukjadoonhmmmm ok11:52
ukjadoonat the boot options?11:52
luca_byeah11:52
ukjadooni can access that by pressing f611:52
ukjadoonoh and what about the rest of the command line11:52
luca_byou don't need to push f-keys11:52
luca_byou'll just see you can type11:52
ukjadoondo i have to write this at the end of the command line? the splash-- live noapic11:52
luca_bukjadoon: if you look, you'll see a line that says "boot:" at the bottom of the screen11:53
luca_byes, just type "live noapic"11:53
ukjadoonohhhh11:53
ukjadoonok:d11:53
luca_bthat will boot up the live CD disabling an option that causes woes on some motherboards11:53
ukjadoon:D11:53
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ukjadoonwell i will try this out immediately11:53
luca_bukjadoon: if it still doesn't work, there are other similar options you can try11:53
ukjadoonand if it works mannnn i just don't know how to thank u:D:D:D:D:D11:54
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ukjadoonhmmm11:54
ukjadoonwhat r the other options?11:54
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luca_bukjadoon: such as "live nolapic", "live noapic nolapic", "live acpi=ht", "live acpi=off"11:54
luca_bthe last turns a LOT of things off11:54
ukjadoonohhhh11:54
luca_bso use it only if you can' boot without anything else11:54
luca_bcan't, rather11:54
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ukjadoonis it really something like a USB port problem or something11:55
ukjadoonor does it vary with different computers?11:55
luca_bukjadoon: it varies11:55
luca_bukjadoon: mostly due to BIOS bugs11:55
ukjadoonweird11:56
luca_bukjadoon: manufacturers often bend standards in their own ways, hence why such things occur11:56
ukjadoonwhy did they release a buggy version of ubuntu and kubuntu?11:56
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luca_bukjadoon: it's not a distro bug11:56
ukjadoonwould the same commands work in kubuntu setup too?11:56
luca_bukjadoon: but a hardware bug11:56
luca_bukjadoon: yes, kubuntu and ubuntu use the same kernel11:56
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ukjadoonwow i am really new to this stuff, i am a C++ programmer and all but i have always been a windows user11:57
ukjadooni never really stepped into linux waters11:57
ukjadoonthis is my first time:D11:57
poseidonSHARK!!!! :O11:57
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ukjadooni am really so glad u helped me out with this luca_b11:57
ukjadoon\m/\m/11:57
luca_bukjadoon: no problem11:57
ukjadoonthank u so much *HAILS*11:58
ukjadooni better try it out then =D11:58
luca_bukjadoon: yep11:58
ukjadoonoh and should i install ubuntu first11:59
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ukjadoonand then install kubuntu on top of it or something?11:59
luca_bukjadoon: if you install ubuntu and then you want to change to kubuntu11:59
luca_bukjadoon: simply install the "kubuntu-desktop" package11:59
tom_having trouble installing libxine-extracodecs11:59
ukjadoonoh alright i wrote all of that down12:00
tom_I get "Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package."12:00
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ukjadoonthaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanx a kazillion luca_b u da man12:00
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ukjadooni better reboot and try it out then12:00
ukjadoonpeace my friend\m/\m/12:00
luca_btom_:  one sec, checking that package12:00
luca_btom_: Do you have the multiverse repo enabled?12:01
tom_i think so12:01
tom_i've got "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse"12:01
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tom_in my sources.list, is that right?12:01
luca_btom_:  are you using edgy eft?12:01
TheGateKeeperanyone know how to configure ekiga?12:01
tom_yeah12:01
luca_b!ubuntu+112:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu+1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:02
luca_ber12:02
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luca_btom_:  go ask in #ubuntu+1 - this channel is for the stable versions only12:02
luca_bif I recall12:02
TheGateKeeperbad bot day lol12:02
luca_bthat's the channel12:02
tom_hmm12:02
tom_i don't think this is down to edgy though...12:02
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tom_will give it a try though, thanks12:03
fdovingtom_,i doubt edgy have a backport archive yet.12:03
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fdovingtom_, but other than that the rest looks good.12:03
tom_is that where libxine-extracodecs comes from?12:03
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luca_bbackports is another set of repo's12:03
luca_byou should check if you have something12:04
luca_bdeb http://xx.ubuntu.org/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe ultiverse12:04
luca_bwhere xx is your country code or something12:04
luca_ber12:04
luca_bchange "ultiverse" with "multiverse", typo12:04
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TheGateKeeperluca_b: you use Voice over IP?12:05
luca_bTheGateKeeper: seldomly, why?12:05
TheGateKeeperluca_b: looking for something that I can get to work12:06
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luca_bTheGateKeeper: I use only p2p VoIP programs though (e.g. skype)12:06
TheGateKeeperluca_b: ok thanx12:07
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