[12:10] <fdoving> octan: ok, doing.
[12:10] <octan> thank you
[12:11] <scion> cango: done
[12:11] <fdoving> octan: where do you want the result? msg?
[12:12] <octan> pm pjerhaps?
[12:12] <fdoving> ok.
[12:13] <scion> Age is no guarantee of maturity
[12:15] <cango> scion: i understand i must search in adep TR isn't it
[12:16] <scion> cango: yes for the language file
[12:17] <cango> scion: if i want whatever i search in adep isn't it
[12:17] <scion> cango: remember - Adept is your friend, use it for anything you might need as it has most thing since I helped you update your sources.list
[12:18] <clemyeats> cango: right
[12:18] <cango> scion: which KDE themes do u suggest?
[12:18] <clemyeats> cango: ideally you should install everyting through APT (which Adept is a frontend to)
[12:19] <plugs_> how can i create a dvd iso?
[12:19] <cango> scion: which KDE themes do u suggest?
[12:19] <scion> cango: it really is personal preference, get them all and pick your favourite
[12:20] <cango> scion: i like ur theme i ask it
[12:21] <dumbkiwi> plugs_: use k3b - when you go to burn the disc, click the "create image only" option
[12:21] <scion> cango: in system settings > appearence click window decorations and the theme i use is called modern system
[12:22] <plugs_> ah yes thanks dumbkiwi
[12:24] <turrican> moin
[12:24] <scion> ok guys and girls i'm going to disconnect, its time for some Prison Break Season 2!
[12:28] <cango> scion: how can i transparent my windows
[12:30] <cango> scion: how can i transparent my windows
[12:31] <Dr_willis> which windows.
[12:31] <Dr_willis> :P
[12:31] <cango> any program window
[12:31] <Dr_willis> just ANY - will proberly need the compwiz features.
[12:31] <Dr_willis> that are still a work in progress
[12:31] <OOD> some themes can support software transparency
[12:31] <Dr_willis> and once ya use transparent windows.. you realize.. they sort of suck. :)
[12:32] <OOD> or use XGL/AIGLX/Compiz
[12:34] <fdoving> nite all.
[12:35] <scion> fdoving: until another day
[12:35] <fdoving> yeah, see you to morrow :)
[12:35] <fdoving> bye.
[12:35] <scion> fdoving: for another day of getting hammered out if it with questions!
[12:36] <who_knows_who_i_> hi, does anyone know a multimedia player for kde that can play .pls playlists from the internet?
[12:37] <nimnrod> !multimedia
[12:37] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[12:38] <scion> who_knows_who_i_: http://gnuru.org/?node_id=751
[12:41] <who_knows_who_i_> thanks!
[12:42] <scion> who_knows_who_i_: amarok is good with .pls files
[12:43] <scion> who_knows_who_i_: amarok with the xine engine
[12:43] <octan> tcp6       0      0 *:ssh                   *:*                     LISTEN
[12:43] <octan> how do i get sshd to use ip V4
[12:44] <lupine_85> octan: edit the config file
[12:44] <cango> scion: i download turkisk language pack but i don't change my language
[12:44] <lupine_85> it's in /etc/ssh somewhere (there's one for client and one for server)
[12:44] <octan> lupine_85, i see nothing in ther with tcp v6
[12:44] <lupine_85> I'd imagine there are howtos somewhere - anyway, you want ipv4 not ipv6 ;)
[12:45] <lupine_85> another key phrase is "what addresses is it binding to?"
[12:45] <octan> lupine_85, ?
[12:46] <lupine_85> ok.. do you see the line "# Use these options to restrict which interfaces/protocols sshd will bind to"
[12:47] <lupine_85> See where it says "#ListenAddress <address-in-ipv4-form>" ?
[12:47] <lupine_85> Uncomment it and you should be ok - until someone hax0rz j00
[12:47] <octan> lol oki
[12:47] <knithx> How can I reboot the default settings for KDE?
[12:48] <scion> cango: http://docsrv.caldera.com:8457/en/kdefaq/configure.html#AEN1753
[12:48] <octan> lupine_85, i see this
[12:48] <octan> #ListenAddress ::
[12:48] <octan> #ListenAddress 0.0.0.0
[12:48] <octan> so if i uncomment it i'll be fine?
[12:48] <octan> like ListenAddress 0.0.0.0
[12:49] <lupine_85> yep
[12:49] <octan> oki thank you
[12:57] <ubuntu_> ahhhh
[12:57] <ubuntu_> boogggaggaa
[12:58] <ubuntu_> free cd
[01:01] <main2> ctrl+escape does not want to respond
[01:02] <octan> !paste
[01:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:02] <main2> how do i start the k....... task thing.. ?
[01:03] <ubuntu_> sims 2 dont install
[01:03] <ubuntu_> help
[01:05] <scion> main2: kcron
[01:05] <octan> sims?
[01:05] <octan> sims as in windows game?
[01:05] <ubuntu_> yes
[01:09] <Skrot> !nvidia
[01:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:10] <Skrot> Are there any "standard" or ubuntu-ish ways to install newer nVidia-drivers than the ones in the reps+
[01:10] <nagyv> Hello! Finally I have arrived to captre a video from my webcam using vlc, but I can not see the image during it. Is there a way to capture and save at the same time?
[01:11] <omgwtfsql> is there any way to reset the mysql password, i'm trying to install ispconfig and it keeps telling me my password is incorrect
[01:23] <RawSewage> how do I fix that error when I do sudo apt-get it says  dpkg is locked/being used by another process?
[01:23] <RawSewage> sudo dpkg --config -i  doesnt work
[01:25] <RawSewage> I mean configure
[01:25] <crimsun> close whatever holds the dpkg lock
[01:32] <BluDog_Anchorite> Ubuntu_  if you get that working in wine or cedega, let me know
[01:35] <XTorchedX> OMFG! WAS THAT MR. UBUNTU?!?!
[01:35] <OOD> o.0
[01:36] <Tm_T> XTorchedX: what's your problem
[01:36] <Skrot> Hi. How can I change the resolution of console, and still keep the splash boot?
[01:37] <XTorchedX> i have a problem Tm_T?
[01:39] <Ekkostorm> Hey all
[01:39] <Ekkostorm> Does anyone know the path to the X System includes?
[01:39] <Tm_T> XTorchedX: with all those caps, yes
[01:39] <XTorchedX> relax
[01:40] <Tm_T> XTorchedX: oh I'm very relaxed ;)
[01:40] <Tm_T> Ekkostorm: /usr/include/X11/ ?
[01:40] <XTorchedX> me too :D
[01:40] <Ekkostorm> ahh...
[01:40] <Ekkostorm> duh
[01:41] <josh_> i just destroyed windows
[01:41] <josh_> omg
[01:41] <josh_> i need it back
[01:41] <XTorchedX> congratulations josh_
[01:41] <XTorchedX> ohh
[01:41] <XTorchedX> why?
[01:41] <Ekkostorm> LOL... deep breaths josh_
[01:41] <socres> nobody needs it back
[01:41] <Ekkostorm> It will be okay...
[01:41] <josh_> i tried enabling spread spectrum clocking and it wont boot into windows now
[01:42] <XTorchedX> what do you need windows for
[01:42] <josh_> gaming
[01:42] <josh_> all my pictures are on there
[01:42] <josh_> all my music
[01:42] <josh_> movies
[01:42] <josh_> documents
[01:42] <XTorchedX> just mount it...
[01:42] <Ekkostorm> Tm_T: don't think thats the one.  I'm trying to compile kmymoney2 8.5, it's asking for the X includes during the configure...
[01:42] <josh_> i can access it from linux but i cna't boot into it
[01:42] <Tm_T> Ekkostorm: have you installed those?
[01:43] <josh_> it will load and then i get a blue screen and it restarts
[01:43] <XTorchedX> why would you need to boot into it for pictures music movies and documents?
[01:43] <Dr_willis> gee did ya disable the spread spectrum stuff...
[01:43] <josh_> and ALL MY GAMES
[01:43] <OOD> it's called ntfs-3g, get all your files back :)
[01:43] <Ekkostorm> I tried looking for the package... but there are a lot of X packages...
[01:43] <XTorchedX> yeah did you undo what you did?
[01:43] <josh_> f.e.a.r. guild wars, prey, doom, need for speed
[01:43] <Tm_T> Ekkostorm: btw, you should look at eqonomize, saved my life
[01:43] <josh_> all the 3dmarks
[01:43] <Dr_willis> Ekkostorm,  proberly some xlib-dev packages
[01:43] <josh_> aquamark
[01:44] <XTorchedX> josh_: are you 15?
[01:44] <josh_> 16 lmfao
[01:44] <josh_> i can do anything in linux cept for gaming
[01:44] <Dr_willis> reformat/reinstall - the windows mantra
[01:44] <josh_> but i am a gamer
[01:44] <Dr_willis> Gaming is for the weak
[01:44] <XTorchedX> yeah, those games suck
[01:44] <Dr_willis> 'im a power gamer' is akin to saying 'im a power drinker'
[01:44] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:44] <josh_> fuk
[01:44] <Tm_T> guys, behave
[01:44] <josh_> well plz help me fix it
[01:45] <bou9al> hi all
[01:45] <Tm_T> josh_: what exactly you did?
[01:45] <Ekkostorm> Tm_T: eqonomize? what's that?
[01:45] <josh_> i put a jumper on my hd
[01:45] <josh_> thats all
[01:45] <bou9al> I need some help please
[01:45] <josh_> to enable spread spectrum clocking
[01:45] <Tm_T> Ekkostorm: lightweight "money app"
[01:45] <XTorchedX> ok ok, so you enabled spread spectrum clocking...what happened when you disabled it?
[01:45] <josh_> and i dunno why i did it either, i wanted to see if tehre were any noise or performance differences
[01:45] <Ekkostorm> hmm...
[01:45] <josh_> i disabled it and now i crash when i try booting into windows
[01:46] <XTorchedX> apparently you've found a performance issue
[01:46] <josh_> lol
[01:46] <Tm_T> Ekkostorm: http://eqonomize.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html
[01:46] <josh_> well why would it do this?
[01:46] <bou9al> can anyone help me please
[01:46] <XTorchedX> you could have corrupted your hard drive
[01:46] <josh_> :O
[01:46] <josh_> omg
[01:46] <josh_> omg
[01:46] <josh_> omgomgomgogmgomgomomgogmgom
[01:47] <Tm_T> Ekkostorm: ugly screenshots but you get an idea, if that's enough for you, I recommend it
[01:47] <josh_> hold on i'll see if i can get all the files
[01:47] <XTorchedX> ok
[01:47] <XTorchedX> i'll wait patiently
[01:47] <josh_> oh my god
[01:48] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:48] <Dr_willis> Next......
[01:48] <XTorchedX> he's an exciteable bloke hey
[01:48] <Dr_willis> 'friends dont let friends use windows'
[01:48] <OOD> lol
[01:48] <Tm_T> oh come on, quit it already
[01:48] <XTorchedX> 'omg omg omg, i broke my crack pipe!'
[01:49] <josh_> omg
[01:49] <josh_> i froze up trying to access my windows partition
[01:50] <Tm_T> that sounds... interesting
[01:50] <XTorchedX> check the disk integrity
[01:50] <josh_> wait
[01:50] <josh_> i can access everyting
[01:50] <josh_> just not my documents
[01:50] <Tm_T> ok, sleep ->
[01:50] <josh_> i have a year of pictures on there!!!!!!
[01:50] <josh_> which is like 5 gigs
[01:50] <XTorchedX> pictures of what?
[01:51] <XTorchedX> ohh i know why you're worried
[01:51] <XTorchedX> it's all your porn isn'tit!
[01:51] <XTorchedX> 'ohh noes! teh pr0n is g0n!!11!"
[01:52] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[01:52] <OOD> yep
[01:53] <larson9999> just restore from your backup
[01:53] <brydenn> ok i'm a retarded n00b. what is the "code" i need to put in fstab so my windows HD mounts
[01:53] <larson9999> it's so much easier to get pr0n these days
[01:54] <larson9999> brydenn: use the gui
[01:54] <brydenn> what gui
[01:54] <Dr_willis> http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[01:54] <brydenn> i just want it to auto mount everytime
[01:54] <Dr_willis> is worth reading
[01:55] <larson9999> brydenn: then afterwards you can check fstab and see what it puts in there.
[01:55] <Dr_willis> it details that and other options you may want to use.
[01:55] <josh___> ok
[01:55] <josh___> i think even linux is being hit
[01:55] <brydenn> alright Dr_willis, thanks
[01:56] <josh___> i'm freaking out here
[01:57] <Dr_willis> gee we never noticed
[01:58] <XTorchedX> is josh_ upset about something?
[02:01] <Dr_willis> i think his dog died...
[02:02] <XTorchedX> poor dog
[02:03] <nimnrod> i installed Winamp using Wine but didnt work so well and now want to uninstall it... how?
[02:03] <monkd> rm
[02:04] <monkd> nimnrod: rm
[02:04] <elusive_jackal> sudo rm -Rf /
[02:04] <nimnrod> hmm.. i dont understand.. could you be more specific please?
[02:05] <monkd> nimnrod: rm is the command
[02:05] <monkd> if you type rm --help
[02:05] <monkd> nimnrod: it will tell you everything you need to know
[02:05] <lupine_85> behave
[02:06] <monkd> nimnrod: after the /place the directory it sits in
[02:06] <lupine_85> nimnrod: you just delete the directory Wine installed the program into. Usually that's (in your home dir) .wine/drive_c/Program Files/(something)
[02:06] <nimnrod> i undesrtand that rm its for removing directories, but i want to uninstall Winamp not just remove it... i dont know if im right tho
[02:06] <nimnrod> lupine_85: thank you
[02:06] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get remove xmms
[02:06] <Dr_willis> winamp ?
[02:06] <lupine_85> nimnrod: because "Windows" doesn't exist on your PC, there's nothing to "uninstall" it from ;)
[02:07] <Dr_willis> wine installs stuff in its own fake windows directory.. check there.. delete it.. or run the winamp uninstaller.exe
[02:07] <lupine_85> maybe a couple of extra registry entries will be left in wine's DB, but that's only a few hundred bytes of storage
[02:07] <nimnrod> i see.... im just exploring what i can do with Wine
[02:07] <Dr_willis> use wine to install spyware. so you an see what it puts where. :)
[02:09] <nimnrod> nice tip
[02:09] <nimnrod> haha
[02:09] <nimnrod> is it possible to install Shockwave Player with Wine?
[02:09] <Linux_Galore> nimnrod: yes
[02:10] <lupine_85> nimnrod: as long as you install a browser for it as well :)
[02:10] <lupine_85> presumably Firefox ;)
[02:10] <Linux_Galore> lupine_85: I didnt
[02:10] <nimnrod> oh.. so it wont work with firefox
[02:10] <lupine_85> Linux_Galore: really?
[02:10] <lupine_85> how does that work?
[02:11] <Linux_Galore> lupine_85: yep, got flash 9 and shockwave working in the Linux version of firefox
[02:11] <lupine_85> (e.g. how does one get the linux browser to use the windows plugin)
[02:11] <lupine_85> phwoar. any linkys?
[02:11] <nimnrod> wow
[02:11] <Linux_Galore> lupine_85: only if you have the 32 bit version of the browser
[02:11] <dako> I am having a problem with CUPS. After I set up my printer it wants a login for authentication. Is there a way around this?
[02:11] <nimnrod> how you did that Linux_Galore
[02:12] <gekko`_> flash 9 is already released? thought flash 8 is the latest one :-)
[02:12] <lupine_85> hrmh... no, all 64-bit on my test rig :(
[02:12] <Linux_Galore> there are two ways, you can manually create the plugins under wine or you can just use codeweavers and that will do it for you
[02:13] <nimnrod> crossover software?
[02:13] <nimnrod> I'd like to know how to do it with Wine
[02:13] <Linux_Galore> nimnrod: crossover is wine with an easy setup front end
[02:14] <nimnrod> oooh
[02:14] <nimnrod> but wine its free :-)
[02:14] <Linux_Galore> or you can use winetools
[02:17] <motorcitymadman> having problem with kate spell checker. will not fire-up tp spell ck. how do i fix?
[02:27] <bobesponja> hey all
[02:27] <bobesponja> I keep getting this error when scanning my collection http://p80.free.fr/snapshot1.png
[02:28] <bobesponja> the version of taglib I have is 1.4-4
[02:28] <mike_> Hello, has anyone tried automatix on kubuntu?
[02:28] <motorcitymadman> mike_: i did last night
[02:29] <mike_> how did it go motor?
[02:29] <motorcitymadman> all good, there is a install for ubuntu and one for kubuntu
[02:30] <mike_> The install on the automatix site....thaT WORKED FOR YOU?
[02:30] <monkd> where can i see list of all installed applications/
[02:30] <Linux_Galore> mike_: I wouldnt use it
[02:30] <motorcitymadman> mike_: http://www.getautomatix.com/
[02:31] <nimnrod>  Linux_Galore: i downloaded shockwave player. could you instruct me how can i make it work with my linux firefox?
[02:31] <motorcitymadman> Linux_Galore: why you say that ?
[02:32] <j2daosh> anyone inhere ever use qingy?
[02:32] <Maneit> !logs
[02:32] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[02:32] <Linux_Galore> motorcitymadman: becuase it edit files based on pre conceived setups, what happens if your setup is different
[02:32] <Kr4t05> nimnrod: last I knew, shockwave didn't work in Linux.
[02:33] <Linux_Galore> Kr4t05: it does but you have to use wine
[02:33] <Kr4t05> Ew...
[02:34] <nimnrod> HOW?
[02:34] <Linux_Galore> nimnrod: go grab a copy of codeweavers 5.01, Im not going to type 3 pages of internals text out for you so you can setup a plugin with wine in here
[02:35] <nimnrod> ok
[02:36] <gissi> Linux_Galore: Are those 3 pages of intenals text available on a Wiki somewhere? You need to post it all here ;)
[02:37] <gissi> Linux_Galore: s/You need/You don't need/
[02:37] <Linux_Galore> gissi: god knows, last I heard winetools were doing something like codeweavers to simplify the creation of a binary plugin for firefox
[02:39] <gissi> Linux_Galore: That would be nice... Well, I believe nimnrod will have to Goggle for it then...
[02:44] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know if Google SketchUp works in Wine?
[02:48] <gissi> nimnrod: I believe this can help you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[02:49] <gissi> nimnrod: Very odd that you have to install Firefox for Windows but should work, I didn't test :)
[02:49] <Linux_Galore> http://www.wine-doors.org/ is the FOSS version  of codeweavers
[02:55] <cango> help my adept not opened
[02:56] <cango> is anybody help me
[02:56] <Dr_willis> hmm
[02:57] <cango> adept make an error
[02:58] <cango> dr_willis: help me
[02:58] <Dr_willis> and the error is ?
[02:58] <Kr4t05> cango: what's your native language?
[02:58] <cango> turkish
[02:59] <Kr4t05> !tr
[02:59] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[02:59] <cango> Kr4t05: tr
[03:00] <cango> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[03:00] <cango> is the error.
[03:01] <cango> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[03:02] <cango> is the
[03:02] <cango> error
[03:02] <hmonster> cango--what other programs are you running?
[03:02] <cango> nothing
[03:03] <cango> i restart my comp but it didn't
[03:03] <hmonster> cango-do you have a terminal open that you ran su on?
[03:03] <cango> terminal like what
[03:03] <hmonster> konsole
[03:04] <cango> maybe
[03:04] <cango> what must i do
[03:04] <hmonster> I know that if I have a terminal open that I ran su, sudo in
[03:05] <hmonster> even when I exit out of su, I will get that error
[03:05] <Dr_willis> but if he rebooted.. that couldent be it.
[03:05] <hmonster> I have to close that terminal session
[03:05] <cango> hmonster: i download some packages with adept and downloaded but when it readying i close adept
[03:06] <hmonster> was it all done?
[03:06] <Dr_willis> adept has a lock file that may of not gotten cleaned out. but i forget the exact place of that.
[03:06] <cango> ok
[03:06] <Dr_willis> the bot has a factoid for it
[03:06] <Dr_willis> !lock
[03:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <cango> what must i do
[03:07] <cango> hey men what must i do
[03:07] <hmonster> was adept all done?
[03:07] <cango> no
[03:08] <hmonster> you just closed adept without it finishing?
[03:08] <cango> yeah
[03:09] <hmonster> dpkg --configure -a
[03:09] <|GaiJin|> hmmm.... do we have some way of installing and browsing themes in kde??
[03:09] <hmonster> will finish up stuff left undone
[03:10] <cango> my console said that "dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege"
[03:10] <|GaiJin|> sudo in front then
[03:10] <hmonster> kdesu
[03:10] <hmonster> or gnome equivalent
[03:10] <Dr_willis> |GaiJin|,   not noticed a similer feature to that gnome-art program. :(
[03:11] <hmonster> nvm this is Kubuntu
[03:11] <Dr_willis> but i found plenty of decent themes in the standard repos.
[03:11] <cango> what can i do
[03:11] <|GaiJin|> yeah.... just browsed alittle... and found alot of sweet things...
[03:11] <|GaiJin|> but would have been nice to have a graphical tool for them
[03:12] <hmonster> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:12] <Dr_willis> I found that gnome-art program nice.. and very annoying.
[03:12] <Dr_willis> 1000+ themes. and most of them stink. :P
[03:12] <cango> my console said that "dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege"
[03:13] <|GaiJin|> what hmonster said... and enter password...
[03:13] <hmonster> have you set a root password?
[03:13] <|GaiJin|> and then enter
[03:13] <cango> my console said "dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege" when i enter sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[03:13] <Kr4t05> Man, XGL is going to make me angry.
[03:13] <crimsun> then don't use Xgl
[03:15] <cango> help help help
[03:15] <hmonster> do you know root password?
[03:15] <cango> yes
[03:16] <|GaiJin|> kubuntu don't have root pass out of box....
[03:16] <hmonster> su <enter>
[03:16] <cango> when i type reset adept what happened
[03:17] <cango> hmonster: when i type reset adept what happened
[03:17] <hmonster> I dont know what reset adept does
[03:18] <|GaiJin|> nothing
[03:30] <dive-o> How do I set my system to automatically set the MTU on my network interface on bootup? Running gig-e here, and I'd like it to set the mtu to 9000 on bootup
[03:35] <AWOSDev> I'm getting very fed up with crontab.
[03:35] <Dr_willis> dive-o,  could put a command in the rc.local file
[03:35] <AWOSDev> "/tmp/crontab.dMkKQh/crontab":2: bad minute
[03:35] <Dr_willis> but i dont even know what the command would be to set it
[03:36] <crimsun> AWOSDev: paste the crontab entry
[03:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> AWOSDev, paste us the line
[03:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> er, sory :|
[03:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi crimsun
[03:36] <dive-o> Dr_willis: I know the command, I just wasn't sure debian/ubuntu even processed rc.local
[03:36] <crimsun> hi Kamping_Kaiser
[03:37] <dive-o> thanks :)
[03:37] <AWOSDev> */5 *  *   *   *     wget http://some/web/site/ -O "/home/awilcox/some/folder/$(date "+\%d \%b \%y \%H \%M \").html"
[03:37] <Dr_willis> dive-o,  id assume if  they ignored /etc/rc,local - it wouldent be there. :P
[03:37] <Dr_willis> heh heh - i know it works in edgy
[03:37] <AWOSDev> Also tried with just a * vs */5
[03:37] <Homer> whats good HTML editor for KDE?
[03:37] <Homer> perferably one with fast preview
[03:37] <dive-o> Dr_willis: yeah, that'll teach me to check before asking :P
[03:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> iirc you need 0 instead of * for the hour/minute
[03:38] <dive-o> I try to ask first so I don't hose packages or something, since I'm more of a BSD person but love kubuntu on my desktop
[03:38] <AWOSDev> Homer, personally I would use KDevelop
[03:38] <Homer> isn't that overkill
[03:38] <crimsun> you can actually strip the leading '*/'
[03:38] <crimsun> it's implied per se
[03:38] <AWOSDev> Well I like it but that's probably because I do PHP Perl C++ Assembly and Shell Scripts too.  :)
[03:39] <AWOSDev> crimsun I tried just '30' too
[03:39] <AWOSDev> with no quotes
[03:39] <AWOSDev> I want it to do it at the top and bottom of every hour
[03:39] <dive-o> sweet, after turning on jumbo frames on my fileserver & desktop I'm getting 40MB/s :-)
[03:39] <AWOSDev> but I just tried random things to try and make it work
[03:40] <AWOSDev> dive-o, where can I do that?  :P
[03:41] <AWOSDev> But anyway back to my crontab what is wrong with it?
[03:41] <AWOSDev> It is getting very frustrating and irratating
[03:41] <AWOSDev> I looked on Google and Ubuntuforums to no avail
[03:42] <dive-o> AWOSDev: buy yourself a netgear GS108, and have two machines with decent onboard gigabit
[03:42] <AWOSDev> I don't have any gigabit cards though :P
[03:42] <dive-o> that'd be an issue
[03:43] <AWOSDev> No I know I have to get gigabit so I was just kidding, didn't you see the smiley at the end?
[03:43] <AWOSDev> :)
[03:43] <dive-o> my fileserver: http://www.endersgame.net/~dive/jane.txt
[03:43] <dive-o> workstation: http://www.endersgame.net/~dive/ender.txt
[03:44] <AWOSDev> 2x750GB?!!??!!?
[03:44] <lmosher> my screen just goes blank when I hit Ctrl+Alt+F1. It never did this before I installed the 'nvidia' drivers (it works fine under the 'nv' driver)
[03:44] <dive-o> yeah. that's what happens when I have over $1000 in checking, get drunk, and type in newegg.
[03:44] <crimsun> AWOSDev: what is that last \ escaping?
[03:44] <dive-o> scary thing is that it's almost at 50%.
[03:45] <AWOSDev> % S
[03:45] <AWOSDev> Konversation takes it as a strikeout:P
[03:45] <dive-o> memorizing my debit card number is probably the worst thing I've ever done for my finances :-P
[03:45] <AWOSDev> LOL @ dive-o :) :) :) :)
[03:46] <crimsun> so it's '\%S'?
[03:46] <AWOSDev> Yes
[03:46] <AWOSDev> how'd you do that?
[03:46] <AWOSDev> oh %
[03:46] <AWOSDev> meaning %%
[03:46] <dive-o> AWOSDev: what's really bad is when a package of really nice upgrade crap comes in the mail, and you're like "uh... when did I order this?" *check online banking* "oh... sh*"
[03:47] <AWOSDev> LOL again at dive-o :P
[03:47] <dive-o> I almost ended up with an extra two gigs of ram that way, until I got to work the next day and cancelled the sale on newegg
[03:48] <AWOSDev> Oh man that's funny
[03:48] <AWOSDev> just let it go and take the 2GB :)
[03:48] <dive-o> You have no idea how tempted I was.
[03:48] <AWOSDev> Oh yes I most certainly do have an idea
[03:49] <AWOSDev> I've almost spent a couple thousand $$$$ on eBay before my sanity came back and said "you really don't need the really nice Prosignia DP380")
[03:49] <dive-o> But I had to spend $100 on some other stuff... and I *am* trying to save up, as I'm getting married in July and will need at least $9k
[03:49] <AWOSDev> Well congratulations on your engagement.
[03:49] <AWOSDev> ;)
[03:49] <dive-o> thanks :)
[03:49] <AWOSDev> I hope she's alright with you being a geek :)
[03:50] <dive-o> hell, she's a chemistry nerd, but a computer geek too. She runs NetBSD.
[03:50] <AWOSDev> Oh my two geeks getting married.
[03:50] <dive-o> I'd get her into Kubuntu, but she doesn't have enough spare disk to backup all her stuff, so she can stick with that, it does what she needs
[03:50] <AWOSDev> how many modems are going to attend your wedding?  :P
[03:50] <dive-o> lol
[03:51] <AWOSDev> and how many computers are you going to have!?
[03:51] <dive-o> considering that a good five of the people I've invited are from the hosting company where I work
[03:51] <XTorchedX> five?
[03:51] <XTorchedX> how many are coming?
[03:52] <dive-o> AWOSDev: well, right now if I flicked a few more power switches I could have 4 nix servers in my room
[03:52] <dive-o> wait, five
[03:52] <AWOSDev> Oh come on four is it?
[03:52] <AWOSDev> five?
[03:52] <AWOSDev> I have five running *all the time*
[03:52] <AWOSDev> and a total of 12
[03:52] <dive-o> AWOSDev: I took my 16 port switch to work because we were out of ports in the office and I wanted to get all my experimental boxes online
[03:52] <dive-o> so I'm limited to an 8 port gig-e switch at the moment
[03:53] <AWOSDev> I know
[03:53] <XTorchedX> i have one computer
[03:53] <AWOSDev> you really don't know how hard it is to have a 5-port workgroup switch
[03:53] <AWOSDev> O_o
[03:53] <dive-o> we have OC48s at work, so it's handy to use that for test boxes
[03:53] <AWOSDev> XTorchedX - go buy more!  more!  MORE!!!!!!!
[03:53] <XTorchedX> why?
[03:53] <AWOSDev> because it's what every good computer geek wants :)
[03:53] <XTorchedX> yeah but why?
[03:54] <dive-o> I could technically get about eight online right now, but my room is hot as hell as it is
[03:54] <AWOSDev> Because they're fun!
[03:54] <AWOSDev> Collectible!
[03:54] <XTorchedX> i mean i could buy more
[03:54] <XTorchedX> i could buy a rack
[03:54] <XTorchedX> and fill it
[03:54] <XTorchedX> and put it in my bedroom
[03:54] <AWOSDev> Heck I have an 8088 and a 486
[03:54] <XTorchedX> and let them whirrrrrr me to sleep everyniht
[03:54] <XTorchedX> yeah see i get rid of old junk
[03:54] <AWOSDev> It's hard for me to go to bed during power outages - no hard disks spinning!  :)
[03:54] <XTorchedX> yeah, i get rid of it all!
[03:54] <AWOSDev> LOL
[03:55] <AWOSDev> I still have 2 586s
[03:55] <AWOSDev> a Pentium II
[03:55] <AWOSDev> and it goes up from there
[03:55] <XTorchedX> i have miscellaneous old parts
[03:55] <AWOSDev> plus a Canon StarWriter
[03:55] <dive-o> I've got, hrm. 80386DX 33mhz, Sun Ultra 1 167mhz, Sun Ultra 5 333mhz, Sun Netra t1 105 440mhz, Athlon XP 2.167ghz, Athlon 64 x2 2.42 (oc'd) ghz
[03:55] <XTorchedX> no complete systems
[03:55] <AWOSDev> so really I have 13
[03:55] <XTorchedX> i don't have the room to keep the cases around
[03:55] <dive-o> then a SPARCbook 3GX 110mhz and various pentium3/duron gear
[03:55] <XTorchedX> so i pull out the guts and go 'thatll be useful one day'
[03:56] <AWOSDev> dive-o, cool 386
[03:56] <dive-o> bringing home a pentium 3 to become my router soon, because it gets a lot less hot than the ultra 1
[03:56] <AWOSDev> that's whats missing
[03:56] <AWOSDev> Yeah I use a P3 (well really Celeron) for my router
[03:56] <dive-o> AWOSDev: it's even got the little switch, if you turn it from the bunny to the turtle it's 25mhz!
[03:56] <AWOSDev> 500MHz/256MB/Kubuntu
[03:56] <AWOSDev> dive-o wow!  the switch!
[03:56] <AWOSDev> Old technology FTW!
[03:57] <AWOSDev> I still have an 8088
[03:57] <AWOSDev> throw the switch and it becomes 4.77MHz vs 7.16MHz
[03:57] <AWOSDev> :P
[03:57] <dive-o> AWOSDev: I refuse to call it the turbo switch. It's the bunny switch!
[03:57] <AWOSDev> Mine just has numbers, no animals
[03:57] <AWOSDev> I have math not furry woodland creatures :P
[03:57] <AWOSDev> I'm missing a 286 and 386
[03:58] <dive-o> my duron and p3 have been parted out, so I'd have to toss spare drive controllers (I have plenty) in them
[03:58] <AWOSDev> then I have literally every Intel processor made since 1982
[03:58] <dive-o> I have a 750mhz p3 slot cpu on my desk that I've been meaning to send to a friend but keep forgetting about
[03:58] <AWOSDev> Yeah I have a 1.2GHz I'm gonna give to a friend after I put Kubuntu on it
[03:58] <AWOSDev> first LInux machine :)
[03:58] <dive-o> AWOSDev: we should prolly take this to #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:59] <AWOSDev> Yeah you're prolly right
[03:59] <XTorchedX> what a coincidence! i'm using kubuntu!
[03:59] <AWOSDev> but I need my crontab fixed!
[03:59] <dive-o> what do you need your crontab to do?
[03:59] <AWOSDev> wget
[03:59] <dive-o> I've got mine doing all sorts of crap, I should be able to figure it out
[03:59] <AWOSDev> */5 *  *   *   *     wget http://some/web/site/ -O "/home/awilcox/some/folder/$(date "+\%d \%b \%y \%H \%M \%S").html"
[04:00] <dive-o> AWOSDev: I'm not familiar with that exact syntax, but what's the problem you're having?
[04:00] <AWOSDev> crontab:2:bad minute
[04:00] <AWOSDev> when I erase the wget just put "ls" it accepts it
[04:01] <dive-o> ahh, I think I see the problem
[04:01] <dive-o> using two double quotes
[04:01] <dive-o> two sets, rather
[04:01] <AWOSDev> AW CRAP
[04:01] <AWOSDev> yes that's the problem
[04:01] <AWOSDev> see I'm too close to it to release that :)
[04:02] <AWOSDev> Nope
[04:02] <dive-o> I really need to set my fileserver up to just do a friggin dump of my dedicated server every so often
[04:02] <AWOSDev> still has the problem
[04:02] <AWOSDev> 2:bad minute
[04:02] <dive-o> hmm
[04:02] <XTorchedX> hey
[04:02] <XTorchedX> i should get like 5 computers
[04:02] <neddiW> hi, does anyone knows of a good wireless network program so I can change from one network to another :)
[04:02] <XTorchedX> and set them all up as some sort of dedicated server for something
[04:02] <dive-o> test idea: put the wget command in a shell script, have crontab call that?
[04:02] <XTorchedX> then get a fat pipe
[04:02] <AWOSDev> rieddiW, wlassistant
[04:02] <XTorchedX> and be a internet awesome tastic superstar
[04:02] <XTorchedX> !!!
[04:03] <AWOSDev> Oooh if I had the money for that XTorchedX
[04:03] <shegman> !xgl
[04:03] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:03] <XTorchedX> you can't get fat pipes where i live
[04:03] <XTorchedX> i'd have to move to asia or europe
[04:03] <XTorchedX> probably asia
[04:03] <AWOSDev> Why where do you live?
[04:04] <AWOSDev> neddiW, wlassistant will do for you
[04:04] <XTorchedX> awwwwwstraayyylyaaaaaa
[04:04] <lupine_85> !beryl
[04:04] <AWOSDev> dive-o good idea
[04:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:04] <neddiW> AWOSDev, thanks ill give it a shot
[04:04] <AWOSDev> neddiW, np
[04:05] <neddiW> ;)
[04:05] <AWOSDev> Oh man
[04:05] <AWOSDev> dive-o I found the problem
[04:05] <AWOSDev> there was an extra \n
[04:05] <dive-o> ahh
[04:05] <AWOSDev> part of it
[04:05] <AWOSDev> wasn't on the same line
[04:05] <dive-o> vixie cron gets picky about that
[04:05] <soulrider> anyone here cna program in java? :P
[04:05] <AWOSDev> soulrider, Yes
[04:06] <AWOSDev> soulrider, I have some novice experience
[04:06] <AWOSDev> why?
[04:06] <dive-o> this should be fun. dumping filesystems on a remote server that has 3 known bad sectors, so that I can slap a new drive in it, reprovision it, and restore
[04:06] <AWOSDev> dive-o :P
[04:07] <AWOSDev> dive-o three sectors isn't bad though
[04:07] <dive-o> true
[04:07] <AWOSDev> but you're right
[04:07] <AWOSDev> I had three sectors bad in 2000
[04:07] <AWOSDev> on 9/14/2001 my HD died
[04:07] <dive-o> but since I work there, and I handle returning bad hardware, I know how bad the failure rate is
[04:07] <soulrider> AWOSDev: i got an error and i cant udnerstand why
[04:07] <dive-o> I recently sent back 32 drives, got another 40 to 60 that I need to send back
[04:08] <AWOSDev> soulrider what is it?
[04:08] <AWOSDev> dive-o who do you use?
[04:08] <soulrider> its an error reading forma  file and using a string tokenizer
[04:08] <AWOSDev> dive-o meaning who do I need to stay away from :P
[04:08] <dive-o> Hitachi and WD.
[04:08] <soulrider> mind if i send you the java file ?
[04:08] <AWOSDev> soulrider, um, how?
[04:08] <dive-o> you should already know to stay away from them
[04:08] <dive-o> I only buy seagates nowadays, but I only use SATA nowadays anyway
[04:08] <AWOSDev> Western Digital, now them I trust
[04:08] <AWOSDev> but Hitachi no
[04:08] <soulrider> AWOSDev:  dunno :P
[04:08] <dive-o> there isn't a single non-seagate spinning in my room
[04:09] <AWOSDev> Hitachi == big problem
[04:09] <AWOSDev> my main server runs 2 WDs
[04:09] <AWOSDev> but my workstation uses a Seagate
[04:09] <dive-o> they didn't give the deskstar line the nickname deathstar for no reason
[04:09] <dive-o> though we had some fun times with out of warranty deathstars and a power drill with a 1/2 inch bit
[04:09] <AWOSDev> dive-o, I have a laptop with a Travelstar
[04:09] <AWOSDev> is this bad?
[04:09] <dive-o> the travelstars are fine
[04:10] <AWOSDev> Oh okay
[04:10] <dive-o> the deskstars are the ones you want to stay away from
[04:10] <AWOSDev> Okay
[04:10] <dive-o> however, be careful with the laptop
[04:10] <dive-o> the travelstars have glass platters
[04:10] <AWOSDev> No
[04:10] <AWOSDev> you're just exaggurating[sp]  right?
[04:10] <dive-o> nope
[04:10] <AWOSDev> NO!?
[04:10] <AWOSDev> I've dropped that one twice
[04:10] <AWOSDev> no problems as of yet
[04:10] <dive-o> many laptop drives have glass platters, that's just the one i can remember
[04:10] <XVampireX> Can I somehow make the apt-get install during the install (Not download) so it would take less CPU/Mem?
[04:11] <dive-o> it takes a lot to break it, but it doesn't just crash, it shatters :P
[04:11] <AWOSDev> Yeah I get it
[04:11] <AWOSDev> dive-o I have a question
[04:11] <AWOSDev> maybe you may not know
[04:11] <dive-o> go for it
[04:11] <AWOSDev> I had a Travelstar from the factory
[04:11] <AWOSDev> installed Windows Server on it
[04:12] <AWOSDev> left it running 13 days (after already using it turning it on/off every day) straight
[04:12] <AWOSDev> it immediately died
[04:12] <flaccid> !quake
[04:12] <ubotu> Quake runs natively under linux see http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/ for details
[04:12] <AWOSDev> had to rush and xcopy what I could to another computer
[04:12] <flaccid> !quake2
[04:12] <dive-o> sounds like either a bad controller board or a bad spindle
[04:12] <ubotu> quake2: improved version of id Software's Quake II engine. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.3-1.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1240 kB, installed size 3144 kB
[04:12] <flaccid> hmm ne1 know how to get quake2 to go
[04:12] <AWOSDev> But I left it running for 13 days straight at 150 degrees
[04:12] <AWOSDev> that wouldn't cause it
[04:12] <AWOSDev> ?
[04:12] <dive-o> no
[04:13] <AWOSDev> they replaced the drive and it's been fine since
[04:13] <dive-o> my experience (I work in a datacenter with 4400+ servers, many of which have deskstars) is that when powered down one too many times they'll just up and die
[04:14] <AWOSDev> It wasn't powered down, that's what I'm saying
[04:14] <Dr_willis> !info quake2
[04:14] <ubotu> quake2: improved version of id Software's Quake II engine. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.3-1.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1240 kB, installed size 3144 kB
[04:14] <dive-o> we're discount dedicated hosting, which is why we use inexpensive drives (I was going to say cheap, but the WDs are usually fine, and fail a lot less)
[04:14] <AWOSDev> who are you?
[04:15] <dive-o> serverbeach
[04:15] <AWOSDev> Okay cool.
[04:15] <Admiral_Chicago> i just tried to log in but X wouldn't start because of a "no screens" rttot
[04:15] <Admiral_Chicago> error
[04:15] <dive-o> the only thing that really kills our drives is age. since they're not meant for hardcore server use, running them 24/7/365 for several years wears them out pretty well
[04:15] <AWOSDev> LOL I do that too (rttot = error)
[04:15] <AWOSDev> dive-o another thing
[04:16] <AWOSDev> ever use Quantum?
[04:16] <dive-o> oh god
[04:16] <dive-o> shut up now
[04:16] <dive-o> do not speak to me of quantum
[04:16] <dive-o> :P
[04:16] <AWOSDev> Why?
[04:16] <AWOSDev> I have a Bigfoot from 1998
[04:16] <AWOSDev> run 24/7/365 for a year and a half no problems
[04:16] <dive-o> lol, I had a bigfoot (2.5GB) from 1996 or so
[04:16] <AWOSDev> now I use her for a workstation vs server
[04:16] <dive-o> it was just horribly slow
[04:16] <AWOSDev> This is a 6GB
[04:16] <flaccid> any linux/ubuntu gamers here?
[04:16] <AWOSDev> Um yeah it is kinda slow
[04:16] <Admiral_Chicago> i have XGL so i dont want to do a sudo dpkg-recnfigure xserver-xorg
[04:17] <dive-o> didn't die until I decided to hit it with a hammer, but the speed pissed me off
[04:17] <AWOSDev> flaccid: The only game I run is TORCS.
[04:17] <AWOSDev> dive-o well this one ran at about room temperature
[04:17] <AWOSDev> on for a year and a half
[04:17] <AWOSDev> popped the case after shutdown
[04:17] <dive-o> that's not bad at all
[04:17] <AWOSDev> felt maybe a little hot
[04:17] <AWOSDev> That was during Hurricane Wilma
[04:17] <dive-o> I had a quantum SCSI drive last for quite a while
[04:18] <dive-o> it only died when we had a power surge which also fried EVERYTHING in my alpha :-(
[04:18] <flaccid> AWOSDev: what is TORCS?
[04:18] <dive-o> I loved that alpha
[04:18] <Admiral_Chicago> can anyone help?
[04:18] <AWOSDev> Yes you remember that 3 bad sector drive from 2000
[04:18] <AWOSDev> flaccid, The Open Racing Car Simulator
[04:18] <flaccid> AWOSDev: is that free?
[04:18] <AWOSDev> YESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:19] <flaccid> lol
[04:19] <AWOSDev> PORTSNAP IS DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:19] <dive-o> brb
[04:19] <flaccid> how to install ?
[04:19] <AWOSDev> flaccid, yes it is
[04:19] <AWOSDev> dive-o okay
[04:19] <Dr_willis> !info torcs
[04:19] <ubotu> torcs: 3D racing cars simulator game using OpenGL. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4-1ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 4368 kB, installed size 20900 kB
[04:19] <AWOSDev> flaccid, sudo apt-get install torcs
[04:19] <flaccid> sweet as
[04:19] <AWOSDev> also
[04:19] <AWOSDev> !info torcs-cars
[04:19] <ubotu> Package torcs-cars does not exist in any distro I know
[04:19] <AWOSDev> hmm
[04:19] <flaccid> i have a big question
[04:19] <AWOSDev> Yeah?
[04:20] <AWOSDev> Go ahead flaccid
[04:20] <flaccid> looking for a 1st person shooter like quake etc. that is free on linux..
[04:20] <flaccid> does it exist
[04:20] <AWOSDev> Hmm
[04:20] <flaccid> it would be mad if it did..
[04:20] <AWOSDev> all I can say is Synaptic and look under games
[04:20] <AWOSDev> I don't play games from that genre
[04:20] <flaccid> ok
[04:20] <flaccid> when people say synaptic, they generally referring to apt-get ?
[04:21] <AWOSDev> No, the synaptic package manager
[04:21] <Dr_willis> synaptic is just a front end to apt-get like adept is
[04:21] <Dr_willis> so use what you like.
[04:21] <AWOSDev> but you can use apt-cache search
[04:21] <flaccid> interesting
[04:21] <AWOSDev> In fact
[04:21] <AWOSDev> flaccid
[04:21] <flaccid> i usually search in konq with apt:/
[04:21] <AWOSDev> run 'apt-cache search shooter'
[04:21] <AWOSDev> from the command line
[04:21] <AWOSDev> I see a few
[04:21] <dive-o> back
[04:22] <AWOSDev> dive-o good
[04:22] <flaccid> sweet
[04:22] <AWOSDev> flaccid, yw
[04:22] <Admiral_Chicago> i just tried to log in but X wouldn't start because of a "no screens" error
[04:22] <dive-o> if there's one thing I'll miss about my current shift rotation, it's that there's no manager on site on weekends and I can go to work and get an extra 3 hours of sleep on the futon
[04:22] <AWOSDev> Admiral_Chicago, try xf86config
[04:22] <dive-o> assuming the customers don't break stuff and wake me up with tickets
[04:22] <AWOSDev> dive-o funny
[04:23] <AWOSDev> Admiral_Chicago I meant X -configure sorry
[04:23] <gnomefreak> AWOSDev: debian/debian based distros dont use Xf86 anymore
[04:23] <dive-o> I was out at a nightclub friday night until 1, got 3 hours of sleep, got to work at 6:30, told night shift to go home, and took a nap. soon as I got to sleep, pager starts going off loud enough to wake the dead (that's the whole idea) so I had to get un-lazy and work
[04:24] <AWOSDev> dive-o Yep that's how it is when you live life "on-call" :)
[04:24] <alan__> ?
[04:24] <dive-o> tomorrow I have to do inventory, so I can't slack off
[04:24] <alan__> ??????????????
[04:24] <flaccid> !prboom
[04:24] <ubotu> prboom: clone of the legendary first person shooter Doom. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:2.2.6-3 (dapper), package size 364 kB, installed size 880 kB
[04:24] <alan__> Alguien habla espaol???
[04:24] <AWOSDev> !es
[04:24] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:24] <flaccid> looks alright...
[04:24] <BonBonTheJon> how do I merge logs for kopete
[04:24] <AWOSDev> flaccid, again yw
[04:24] <dive-o> AWOSDev: our office is quite laid back, which is great, since I can sit there playing counter-strike with my boss and only have to quit when tickets come in
[04:24] <AWOSDev> :)
[04:25] <alan__> En ubuntu, kubuntu y lo dems no sale lo que necesito :S
[04:25] <alan__> La cosa es que NO aparecen las aplicaciones en el men K automticamente desde hace un tiempo.
[04:25] <AWOSDev> Rough translation of what alan__ is saying:
[04:25] <AWOSDev> In ubuntu, kubuntu and the others do not leave what I need
[04:26] <flaccid> any possible way to speed limit with a package manager downloading packages?
[04:26] <AWOSDev> The thing is that they have not automatically been appearing the applications in menu K for a time.
[04:26] <AWOSDev> alan__
[04:26] <AWOSDev> alan__ execute 'kbuildsycoca'
[04:27] <alan__> Don't work: kbuildsycoca
[04:27] <AWOSDev> alan__ what is the error?
[04:28] <AWOSDev> flaccid, why would you *want* to speed limit :P
[04:28] <alan__> Well, new software is not in the Menu K
[04:28] <alan__> My english is so bad, i know.
[04:28] <AWOSDev> What new software are you trying to use?
[04:29] <flaccid> AWOSDev: coz i'm sharing crap 256/128 connection
[04:29] <AWOSDev> Actually, alan__, you're English is decent
[04:29] <alan__> For now...
[04:29] <AWOSDev> ***your English not you're :P
[04:29] <alan__> I'm trying with games...
[04:29] <AWOSDev> flaccid, if you have a 256/128 then that's the limit.  I don't understand what you mean?
[04:29] <AWOSDev> alan__ Did you install them with apt-get?
[04:30] <alan__> Yeah.
[04:30] <AWOSDev> So when you run kbuildsycoca there is no error but the applications are still not in the K Menu?
[04:30] <flaccid> AWOSDev: try sharing that with 4 other people. if 1 direct downloads, the others suffer and pings go to ~4secs
[04:30] <BonBonTheJon> anyone know how to merge logs for kopete
[04:30] <AWOSDev> flaccid, Oh oh oh oh okay
[04:30] <AWOSDev> get a better Internet connection then :P
[04:30] <flaccid> :)
[04:30] <alan__> i need go! sorry,...
[04:31] <AWOSDev> My cable at ~500 can share six computers
[04:31] <AWOSDev> alan__ goodbye!
[04:31] <flaccid> i would if i could
[04:31] <Dr_willis> heh heh
[04:31] <Dr_willis> so let them lag!
[04:31] <AWOSDev> flaccid my 500 can do five computers all downloading at once without much of a performance hit
[04:31] <Dr_willis> torrents seem to lag me to death
[04:31] <flaccid> i'm letting them lag atm!
[04:32] <flaccid> yes but thats nearly double the speed i have...
[04:32] <flaccid> and you said the word cable. i'm not on cable.
[04:32] <AWOSDev> DSL huh?
[04:32] <flaccid> yeah
[04:33] <AWOSDev> which is short for Darn SLow :)
[04:33] <flaccid> bigpond rip off
[04:33] <flaccid> $AU60 p/month
[04:33] <flaccid> adsl2+ is faster than cable in australia
[04:33] <AWOSDev> That's 45.33 USD
[04:33] <AWOSDev> that's what I'm getting cable for
[04:34] <flaccid> yes bigpond is a rip off. the account is not in my name
[04:34] <morghanphoenix>  $80 a month for 7 meg dsl and I'm getting about 1.5 from it
[04:34] <flaccid> well i'm in hobart and there is no cable and only 1 dsl2 exchange
[04:35] <AWOSDev> And me here paying ~$45/month for 500 that I'm getting 600 out of :P
[04:35] <flaccid> IT&T in Aust. is shite
[04:35] <AWOSDev> is 256 the fastest available?
[04:35] <flaccid> no
[04:35] <flaccid> dsl2 and cable is available
[04:35] <AWOSDev> Then trust me get the 512
[04:35] <AWOSDev> the 512 will do
[04:35] <flaccid> dsl2 dslams only on a couple dozen exchanges and cable only very limited
[04:36] <morghanphoenix> I'm in downtown, great service for DSL, but I'm in an old building so my copper can't keep up.
[04:36] <flaccid> errr, my point is that i can't get rid of the account...
[04:36] <AWOSDev> Don't get rid of it, upgrade it! :)
[04:36] <flaccid> i've been on cable, 1.5mbps dsl, adsl2 24mbps, isdsn 128 etc.
[04:36] <AWOSDev> That's my view on computers too :)
[04:36] <flaccid> AWOSDev: can't upgrade coz its contract, unless you upgrade with bigpond which means you would be getting ripped off hectic
[04:37] <morghanphoenix> I built my computer from parts people threw out
[04:37] <AWOSDev> I have three whole computers that people threw out :)
[04:37] <AWOSDev> in fact two of them with monitors
[04:37] <AWOSDev> two with keyboards and mice (one optical)
[04:37] <AWOSDev> and one with powered speakers!
[04:37] <flaccid> this is 256/128 with only 10GB a month, then you get shaped further to 64kbps till end of month. isn't it wrong to shape an already shaped connection and also have a d/l limit??
[04:38] <suresh> can somone help me
[04:38] <flaccid> and they block port 25...
[04:38] <suresh> i seem to have a problem updating?
[04:38] <AWOSDev> OH MAN!
[04:38] <morghanphoenix> I got a spare monitor from work that is amazing, too bad I'm using a 7 year old video card
[04:38] <AWOSDev> I dropped my keyboard on the floor and the J keytop fell off!
[04:38] <Linux_Galore> morghanphoenix: I replaced my copper cable in the building with Cat5
[04:38] <Linux_Galore> morghanphoenix: cable is very cheap
[04:38] <Linux_Galore> morghanphoenix: you just need to buy a staple gun
[04:39] <alan__> I'm back.
[04:39] <AWOSDev> suresh - updating what?
[04:39] <AWOSDev> alan__ Welcome back!
[04:39] <alan__> :-)
[04:39] <AWOSDev> alan__ now does kbuildsycoca come up errors?
[04:40] <alan__> kbuildsycoca don't do anyting.
[04:40] <alan__> I did execute it.
[04:41] <AWOSDev> It should say something like "kbuildsycoca running..."
[04:41] <AWOSDev> did it say that?
[04:42] <alan__> kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[04:42] <suresh> updating packages...
[04:42] <suresh> well i am still new to all this...
[04:42] <alan__> what i need do?
[04:42] <AWOSDev> alan__ Okay try 'sudo kbuildsycoca'
[04:43] <AWOSDev> suresh what package?
[04:43] <alan__> ok
[04:43] <morghanphoenix> Woo Hoo! Ktorrent is down to seven hours in a nine day download.
[04:43] <AWOSDev> morghanphoenix Dang that's a long time
[04:43] <AWOSDev> dial-up?
[04:43] <alan__> kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[04:43] <alan__> DCOP: unregister 'anonymous-6284'
[04:43] <Dr_willis> then you will find the download is currupted. :(
[04:43] <morghanphoenix> DSL, I think the seeds might be dial up though.
[04:44] <Linux_Galore> yeah hate seeders who use dial up
[04:44] <suresh> sudo apt-get update gives me an error...
[04:44] <morghanphoenix> 3.47GB
[04:44] <morghanphoenix> The sad part is I'm downloading my CDs
[04:44] <suresh> it says use dpkg to configure....
[04:44] <morghanphoenix> Mine are so scratched I can't get them to read
[04:45] <AWOSDev> morghanphoenix I had to do that too :P
[04:45] <suresh> so....need some advice...on how to go about...
[04:45] <Dr_willis> I had to download my 8-track tapes!
[04:45] <Dr_willis> :P
[04:45] <AWOSDev> suresh: What package are you trying to update?!
[04:45] <kontiki> Hi - How do enable file sharing in Kubuntu?  When I go to KMenu>SystemSettings>Internet&Network>Sharing>FileSharing, it requests admin mode, I give it admin, then the options come up 'greyed out" - readable, but not accessible. - how do I get that access?
[04:45] <morghanphoenix> does adept have a bug that would cause it to think it's still logged in?
[04:46] <suresh> well you know how adept-updater automatically asks you if you want to update...old files...
[04:46] <Dr_willis> !samba
[04:46] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:46] <AWOSDev> suresh yeah
[04:46] <Linux_Galore> morghanphoenix: I always make a gold copy of my CD's/DVD's, you do know that most $$$ cd's are done on formats that the record/movie companies know will deteriorate after a few years
[04:46] <Dr_willis> kontiki,  i alwqys install the samba package first
[04:46] <suresh> this time it didn't half way through preparing....it frooze...
[04:47] <suresh> it took a very long time ...now the adept updater does not run...
[04:47] <kontiki> Dr_willis: thankis
[04:47] <AWOSDev> again, suresh, What package are you trying to update?
[04:47] <Dr_willis> kontiki,  mine is all greyed out on this new install alsol
[04:47] <AWOSDev> sudo apt-get update <What's this name?>
[04:47] <morghanphoenix> Something went bonkers when adept updater was running on mine too.
[04:48] <morghanphoenix> It quit halfway through and now keeps telling me it's allready logged in so I can't use it.
[04:48] <suresh>  linux-restricted-modules-common Non-free Linux 2.6.15 modules helper script
[04:48] <suresh>  linux-386            Complete Linux kernel on 386.
[04:48] <suresh>  linux-image-386      Linux kernel image on 386.
[04:48] <suresh>  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386 Non-free Linux 2.6.15 modules on 386
[04:48] <suresh>  linux-restricted-modules-386 Restricted Linux modules on 386.
[04:48] <suresh> following packages are only half configures.
[04:48] <suresh> configured...sorry.
[04:49] <suresh> it doesn't work...it tried it...
[04:49] <AWOSDev> You could just type in "sudo apt-get upgrade linux-386"
[04:49] <AWOSDev> That will upgrade *everything*
[04:50] <AWOSDev> 166 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 10 not upgraded
[04:50] <suresh> ok
[04:50] <AWOSDev> (Those 10 are new installs)
[04:50] <suresh> i'll try....
[04:50] <AWOSDev> (new kde-libs and kdevelop)
[04:50] <AWOSDev> It should say something like:
[04:50] <AWOSDev> (sorry)
[04:50] <AWOSDev> The following packages have been kept back:
[04:50] <AWOSDev>   amarok amarok-xine kontact kopete krita krita-data ksysguard ksysguardd linux-image-386
[04:50] <AWOSDev>   linux-restricted-modules-386
[04:51] <suresh> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[04:51] <suresh> cannot.
[04:51] <AWOSDev> Well then?
[04:51] <AWOSDev> type sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:52] <AWOSDev> Um, did they ever fix the Xorg bug?
[04:52] <AWOSDev> Can I update everything?
[04:52] <suresh> okie something is happening.
[04:52] <AWOSDev> I read somewhere that there was some Xorg bug and you should let it upgrade that.
[04:52] <AWOSDev> So did they ever fix that?
[04:53] <suresh> another thing....how to you setup a superuser account? i was under the impression i was the superuser.
[04:53] <AWOSDev> You are
[04:53] <AWOSDev> when you type sudo
[04:53] <AWOSDev> Super User DO
[04:53] <AWOSDev> so you're DOing something as the Super User
[04:53] <unix_infidel> !root
[04:53] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:54] <AWOSDev> Making a real superuser account is kind of messy on Kubuntu
[04:54] <AWOSDev> That's the one thing I miss of SuSE (though everything else sucked)
[04:57] <AWOSDev> You know since the J key fell of the keyboard, should I rip the rest of them off and clean it?
[04:57] <AWOSDev> *fell off
[04:58] <Dr_willis> stick the whole thing in the dishwasher
[04:58] <AWOSDev> Are you kidding?
[04:58] <morghanphoenix> I'm thinking about just installing debian.
[04:58] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:58] <Dr_willis> i took my keyboard apart the other day and washed all thekeys in the sink
[04:58] <Dr_willis> had a whole tub of keys..  then had to fighre out where they all went
[04:58] <Dr_willis> :P
[04:58] <altair> yup just the keys
[04:58] <AWOSDev> Yeah see that's what I want to do
[04:59] <AWOSDev> LOL where they go
[04:59] <Dr_willis> this keyboard was filthy
[04:59] <AWOSDev> I've memorized the keyboard layout so I should know where they go :)
[04:59] <AWOSDev> Oh yes this one is too
[04:59] <AWOSDev> second-hand keyboard
[04:59] <morghanphoenix> I think there's more cigarette ash in my keyboard then there is circuits.
[04:59] <AWOSDev> from 1994
[04:59] <AWOSDev> EW :X
[04:59] <Dr_willis> yea,, so which is first.. insert or home. :P
[04:59] <Dr_willis> heh heh
[04:59] <Dr_willis> soda pop
[04:59] <Kr4t05> morghanphoenix: Don't subject your computer to such torture.
[04:59] <AWOSDev> Insert
[05:00] <AWOSDev> Insert Home Page Up
[05:00] <AWOSDev> Delete End Page Down
[05:00] <AWOSDev> Yes I did that without looking :P
[05:00] <Kr4t05> Do you realize what cigarette smoke does to the inside of your computer?
[05:00] <Dr_willis> i got some kdyboards that got them differently
[05:00] <Dr_willis> Do you realize what cigarette smoke does to the inside of you.
[05:00] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:00] <Admiral_Chicago> fixed it
[05:00] <Kr4t05> I have no remorse for the person who willing endangers themselves, as long as they do not endanger those unwilling, human or otherwise.
[05:00] <AWOSDev> I'm with Kr4t05 on this one, morghanphoenix
[05:00] <suresh> ok i am the superuser....
[05:01] <morghanphoenix> Well, it's not like the whole thing isn't junk parts to begin with, or I'm not able to fix the whole thing again if it goes.
[05:01] <AWOSDev> Um, suresh?
[05:01] <AWOSDev> don't scream it out loud in IRC
[05:01] <AWOSDev> using IRC as root is dumb
[05:01] <suresh> so sometimes when i run dselect it say's you don't have SU privileges?
[05:01] <morghanphoenix> I build computers, it's software that makes me feel stupid.
[05:02] <suresh> to process...
[05:02] <Admiral_Chicago> #kubuntu-offtopic...
[05:04] <suresh> thanks AWOSDev now the update it fine.
[05:04] <AWOSDev> suresh, no problem!
[05:04] <suresh> oh one more thing
[05:04] <suresh> wait...
[05:04] <unix_infidel> morghanphoenix: because they've made computers to where any stupid person can build them :)
[05:05] <AWOSDev> Okay...question
[05:05] <unix_infidel> why do you think everyone and their grandmother has A+ certs
[05:05] <AWOSDev> is it true that if you unplug and plug a keyboard while the computer is running does it short-circuit the motherboard?
[05:06] <AWOSDev> I read that on USENET in 1996 and was wondering if it was really true
[05:06] <morghanphoenix> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[05:06] <NthDegree> Ooh brb
[05:06] <AWOSDev> I was still fairly new to the internals of computers then so I took it as true
[05:06] <morghanphoenix> that's what I get from adept
[05:06] <suresh> flash plugin non free? does that mean you have to pay?
[05:07] <Admiral_Chicago> AWOSDev, not really
[05:07] <altair> not true
[05:07] <AWOSDev> suresh, no
[05:07] <Admiral_Chicago> the changes of that happening are really slim
[05:07] <AWOSDev> suresh, that means it's not open-source
[05:07] <altair> sure
[05:07] <morghanphoenix> you just have to check the license
[05:07] <AWOSDev> Admiral_Chicago, altair, you guys talking to me or suresh there?
[05:08] <AWOSDev> oh nvm
[05:08] <AWOSDev> duh
[05:08] <suresh> okie...hey thanks a million, see you around.
[05:08] <AWOSDev> [03:06]  <Admiral_Chicago> AWOSDev, not really
[05:08] <altair> i was replaying to you AWOSDev
[05:08] <AWOSDev> okay
[05:08] <AWOSDev> suresh, no problem!
[05:08] <AWOSDev> suresh, bye!
[05:08] <AWOSDev> altair, okay
[05:08] <AWOSDev> because I want to go clean my keyboard
[05:08] <AWOSDev> (server keyboard not this IRC keyboard)
[05:09] <altair> ok
[05:09] <morghanphoenix> any help as to why adept won't start?
[05:09] <morghanphoenix> It's lying to me
[05:09] <AWOSDev> I can see it now.
[05:10] <AWOSDev> "If you don't press F2 within ten seconds the world will blow up!"
[05:10] <AWOSDev> "Hold on, I'm cleaning my keyboard!"
[05:10] <AWOSDev> :P
[05:10] <AWOSDev> morghanphoenix:
[05:10] <altair> go ahead, take the risk
[05:10] <AWOSDev> killall apt-get
[05:10] <AWOSDev> killall aptitude
[05:10] <AWOSDev> killall adept
[05:12] <morghanphoenix> no process killed on all of them and synaptic as well
[05:12] <AWOSDev> hmm
[05:13] <morghanphoenix> do I need to sudo them?
[05:13] <morghanphoenix> It was the auto update thingy that went nuts
[05:14] <morghanphoenix> tried to update my flash player and quake2, then bugged out, got the amarok update done just fine though.
[05:15] <altair> bugged out?
[05:15] <altair> any message?
[05:15] <morghanphoenix> just flashed and died mid update, too quick to see what the terminal readout said
[05:16] <altair> maybe a repository problem?
[05:16] <Admiral_Chicago> morghanphoenix, check systemlog
[05:16] <Admiral_Chicago> in the K menu
[05:17] <morghanphoenix> opening it now
[05:17] <morghanphoenix> Okay, what should I be looking for? Adept?
[05:18] <morghanphoenix> hmm
[05:18] <morghanphoenix> does it reset at restart?
[05:18] <altair> mine seems like so
[05:19] <Kr4t05> Man, now I remember why I hate Windows so much.
[05:19] <morghanphoenix> then whatever it was is gone from the system log, it crashed.
[05:20] <altair> yup
[05:20] <shadowraven> what is the command to move a program from one DIR to another DIR **** mv /home/destopwhateverfile  /home desktopwhateverfile2 **?
[05:21] <altair> rn
[05:21] <Admiral_Chicago> can some try do duplicate this
[05:21] <Admiral_Chicago> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdeaddons/+bug/61014
[05:21] <Admiral_Chicago> morghanphoenix, hmm there may be an adept log
[05:21] <Admiral_Chicago> morghanphoenix, sec
[05:22] <shadowraven> in command line
[05:23] <Admiral_Chicago> morghanphoenix, try doing a sudo apt-get install <package>
[05:25] <Dr_willis> hmm
[05:25] <morghanphoenix> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[05:25] <Dr_willis> what was that bug again>?
[05:25] <Admiral_Chicago> morghanphoenix, type it in
[05:25] <Dr_willis> i see the wallpaper in 3 out of the for desktop mini-pager windows
[05:26] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdeaddons/+bug/61014
[05:26] <Admiral_Chicago> try to duplicate that, i think that's what you have
[05:26] <shadowraven> in command linecd
[05:26] <morghanphoenix> whoah, I allready did that, but it's working this time
[05:26] <morghanphoenix> At least I think it is
[05:26] <Admiral_Chicago> morghanphoenix, good
[05:26] <Dr_willis> woo hoo. found a setting whree the mousewheel on the desktop changes desktops. :P
[05:27] <Dr_willis> proving once again that KDE rules.. gnome drools.
[05:27] <Dr_willis> :P
[05:27] <morghanphoenix> Think maybe the x server reset helped?
[05:27] <morghanphoenix> I like gnome seccond best
[05:27] <morghanphoenix> windows is my favorite
[05:28] <morghanphoenix> lol
[05:28] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis, i love that move
[05:28] <Admiral_Chicago> morghanphoenix, gasp
[05:28] <morghanphoenix> just kidding, ducks the inevitable thrown mice
[05:29] <morghanphoenix> dp
[05:29] <morghanphoenix> kg: error processing flashplugin-nonfree (--configure):
[05:29] <morghanphoenix>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[05:29] <morghanphoenix> Setting up quake2 (0.3-1.1ubuntu1) ...
[05:29] <morghanphoenix> eek
[05:29] <Denstark> Hi =) I've installed apache and it works, but only from the local server. Anyone else trying to access it (This is over a lan) is denied. Any ideas?
[05:30] <morghanphoenix> I keep getting the post-installation script returned error
[05:30] <Dr_willis> Admiral_Chicago,  as far as i can tell the showin gof the wallpaper in the pager is totally borked...
[05:30] <Dr_willis> just changeing desktops.. messes mine up
[05:30] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis, so can you duplicate the bug?
[05:31] <BluDog_Anchorite> Denstark: firewall ? host.deny list ?
[05:31] <Dr_willis> yep it did the same.. andthen some.
[05:31] <Admiral_Chicago> i know that, it looks awful
[05:31] <Admiral_Chicago> okay thanks
[05:31] <AWOSDev> morghanphoenix, df -h
[05:31] <Denstark> BluDog_Anchorite: No firewall, its on a lan... where is the host.deny list?
[05:31] <AWOSDev> Denstark, /etc/
[05:31] <BluDog_Anchorite> check /etc
[05:31] <BluDog_Anchorite> or in the apache .conf
[05:32] <Denstark> Thank you let me take a look
[05:32] <morghanphoenix> what am I looking for in the df -h readout?
[05:32] <AWOSDev> disk space free
[05:32] <AWOSDev> I'm thinking that's your problem
[05:32] <AWOSDev> last time I got that message I had 0 bytes free :P
[05:32] <morghanphoenix> at least 125 megs free in each space.
[05:33] <AWOSDev> And what package are you trying to install?
[05:33] <morghanphoenix> ooh, nice, it even shows my usb drive
[05:33] <morghanphoenix> flash player
[05:33] <morghanphoenix> the auto update
[05:33] <AWOSDev> And you have at least 200MB on the /usr?
[05:34] <Denstark> There is nothing in either hosts.deny or hosts.allow
[05:34] <Denstark> I can ssh into the machine, if that counts for anything
[05:34] <morghanphoenix> doesn't show usr
[05:34] <Denstark> I've checked apache2.conf and wasn't able to find anything
[05:34] <AWOSDev> okay what about just /?
[05:34] <morghanphoenix> but the device /usr is on still has 7.8 gigs
[05:34] <AWOSDev> Okay, that isn't your problem :P
[05:34] <Dr_willis> Admiral_Chicago,  i get the exact issue now..
[05:35] <Dr_willis> i set up dofferent wallpapers - - when using the same wallpaper for each desktop - the pager also acts funny
[05:36] <morghanphoenix> updates have been buggy from install
[05:36] <morghanphoenix> I had to do the manual update for the screensaver fix.
[05:37] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis, dapper?
[05:37] <Dr_willis> yea  - cleaninstall of dapper
[05:37] <Dr_willis> just installed today
[05:38] <Dr_willis> aptitude had a hissy fit and demanded i unisntall kubuntu-desktop a while ago. :P
[05:38] <Dr_willis> still not sure what happened there. heh heh
[05:38] <Admiral_Chicago> kubuntu dapper?
[05:38] <Admiral_Chicago> err nevermind
[05:38] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm stupid
[05:38] <Admiral_Chicago> its a KDE bug...
[05:39] <morghanphoenix> what's the current version of KDE?
[05:39] <Admiral_Chicago> 3.5.4
[05:39] <morghanphoenix> Should it auto update?
[05:39] <morghanphoenix> I'm missing a number there.
[05:39] <Dr_willis> i got a vmware session of the newer kde. :) on a suse install.. shall i see if it does it there?>
[05:40] <Dr_willis> 3.5.4 is the latest  i think. but its not in dapper yet.
[05:40] <Dr_willis> or am i missing somthing
[05:41] <Hawkwind> Yes it is
[05:41] <DFM> sorry for a late response but I just got back and read through all the post
[05:41] <Hawkwind> 3.5.4 has been in Dapper for a while
[05:41] <Dr_willis> hmmm
[05:41] <DFM> you can safely put a keyboard in the dishwasher
[05:41] <Dr_willis> i just update/upgraded... and it dident put it in.
[05:41] <DFM> just remember to let it dry for at least 3 days before plugging back in
[05:41] <DFM> work's fine last long time
[05:41] <Hawkwind> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/ dapper main
[05:42] <AWOSDev> DFM are you serious about 3 days?!
[05:42] <morghanphoenix> I did the update and got 3.5.3
[05:42] <DFM> yes
[05:42] <Hawkwind> Plus they are in kde-latest as well
[05:42] <DFM> whole keyboard
[05:42] <Dr_willis> Hawkwind,  yea - i did that on another machine. :)
[05:42] <morghanphoenix> Woo Hoo!
[05:42] <AWOSDev> Okay DFM well nvm thanks anyway
[05:42] <morghanphoenix> Adept's working again
[05:42] <DFM> just use very little detergent
[05:42] <morghanphoenix> Thanks
[05:42] <AWOSDev> DFM I just got an alcohol swab and did a job on it :)
[05:42] <DFM> no need to disassemble
[05:42] <AWOSDev> Scrubbed really hard
[05:42] <DFM> that works
[05:43] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis, what version of KDE?
[05:43] <AWOSDev> Got it all nice and new and shiny again!  :)
[05:43] <AWOSDev> 12 years of gunk gone!  Yay!
[05:43] <DFM> I tried it on a keyboard that I could afford to loose if it killed
[05:43] <AWOSDev> But that was just the main keys, I need a new alcohol swab to do the extended ones :P
[05:44] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis, I'm assuming KDE 3.5.2
[05:45] <morghanphoenix> anybody know a good website that lists dapper sources
[05:45] <AWOSDev> morghanphoenix:
[05:45] <Admiral_Chicago> morghanphoenix, pacakges.ubuntu.com
[05:45] <AWOSDev> !source-o-matic
[05:45] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:45] <Admiral_Chicago> i think is the site
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Admiral_Chicago,  it does  identical thing on the Suse 10.x kde 3.5.4 vmware install i have set up also.
[05:46] <unix_infidel> is cipherfunk down again?
[05:46] <Admiral_Chicago> oh you want to create a sources.list
[05:46] <unix_infidel> anyone know of another place to get mplayer?
[05:46] <Dr_willis> vmware is so fun
[05:46] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis, but on your dapper system
[05:46] <AWOSDev> Dr_Willis, yeah but expensive :X
[05:46] <Dr_willis> dapper does it as well
[05:46] <unix_infidel> anyone?
[05:46] <Dr_willis> AWOSDev,  it is? it was a free download.
[05:47] <AWOSDev> Dr_Willis I almost bought it but at the time (a year ago) VMware Workstation 5 was $129
[05:47] <morghanphoenix> Yup, I'm using the automatix source list.
[05:47] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis, so waht version of KDE on dapper.
[05:47] <unix_infidel> !mplayer
[05:47] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[05:47] <Dr_willis> free as in beer. :)  - not free as in source
[05:47] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[05:47] <Dr_willis> Admiral_Chicago,  the .2 one
[05:47] <Admiral_Chicago> okaf
[05:47] <Dr_willis> so it does seem to be a kde issue
[05:48] <Dr_willis> only other test i could do would be a live cd/disrto with kde. :P but thats gettting over kill.
[05:49] <AWOSDev> Either Morphix or Kubuntu would be good for Live CD
[05:49] <AWOSDev> :)
[05:49] <unix_infidel> !codecs
[05:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:49] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis, i did the edit to the LP page
[05:49] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks a lot for the help
[05:50] <Schalken> how come the bottom of the volume control thing is cut off at the bottom of the screen?
[05:50] <AWOSDev> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddcccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccdddddddddd\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
[05:50] <AWOSDev> Oh man sorry
[05:50] <Dr_willis> cat on the keyborad again..
[05:50] <AWOSDev> I was cleaning my IRC keyboard :P
[05:50] <Dr_willis> or did ya bang ya head on it. :P
[05:51] <Dr_willis> lol
[05:51] <Admiral_Chicago> Schalken, change the monitor adjust
[05:51] <AWOSDev> LOL
[05:51] <Admiral_Chicago> on the monitor
[05:51] <AWOSDev> A couple of keys were really dirty (e, d, c, and the \)
[05:51] <AWOSDev> and return :P
[05:51] <morghanphoenix> now for the source-o-matic do I need to get the keys or does that happen automatically?
[05:51] <Schalken> Admiral_Chicago: monitor is adjusted. its the same in the osdir screenies: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=662&slide=4
[05:52] <unix_infidel> where do i get libdvdcss?
[05:52] <AWOSDev> morghanphoenix, you have to get the keys *IF* you want them
[05:52] <AWOSDev> personally I just make due without em
[05:52] <morghanphoenix> so you don't need the keys to use the sources?
[05:52] <unix_infidel> anyone know of a repo that has the library?
[05:53] <AWOSDev> morghanphoenix, no you don't *need* the keys
[05:53] <unix_infidel> anyone?
[05:53] <AWOSDev> it's just for security concerns to make sure you don't get a *yeah right* virus
[05:53] <AWOSDev> unix_infidel what library?
[05:53] <Schalken> !restrictedformats
[05:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:53] <unix_infidel> libdvdcss
[05:53] <Schalken> unix_infidel: that page says where to get it ;)
[05:55] <unix_infidel> using that script in the wiki help docs?
[05:56] <morghanphoenix> Now it's /etc/apt/sources.list where this goes right?
[05:57] <flaccid> !ati
[05:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:57] <flaccid> how to see what display driver is being used?
[05:58] <AWOSDev> Yay!  My keyboard worked!
[05:58] <AWOSDev> :)
[05:58] <AWOSDev> morghanphoenix yes
[05:58] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. its scary when a new disrto shows up on disrtowatch andyou cant even download it due to their server bandwith being exceced...
[05:58] <Dr_willis> thats like the reason torrents are so good. :P
[05:59] <AWOSDev> Dr_willis what distro?
[05:59] <AWOSDev> :P
[05:59] <AWOSDev> Or wait
[05:59] <AWOSDev> what's a disrto?
[06:00] <Dr_willis> thers a XP-Linux out from some russian site. :P its servers are down
[06:00] <Dr_willis> MayaLinux - servers are down
[06:00] <morghanphoenix> xlib connection refused by server, kdeinit can't connect to x server, communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.
[06:00] <morghanphoenix> what's is this?
[06:00] <Dr_willis> DreamLinux - tries badly to look like OS-X :P
[06:01] <AWOSDev> morghanphoenix where do you see this?
[06:01] <morghanphoenix> in konsole whenever I launch something from command line.
[06:01] <AWOSDev> are you using the same UID that you used to start X?
[06:02] <morghanphoenix> is that the login?
[06:02] <AWOSDev> *****question:
[06:02] <Linux_Galore> Dr_willis: and XP Linux tried to look like hmm, OS2 warp !!
[06:02] <AWOSDev> I'm building phpBB
[06:02] <Linux_Galore> heh heh
[06:02] <AWOSDev> it says "build options: WWWDOCROOT: the DocumentRoot of your server"
[06:02] <Dr_willis> I want a GeosLinux!
[06:02] <flaccid> phpbb, yuck
[06:02] <flaccid> smf rools
[06:02] <morghanphoenix> I'm using sudo to launch things as root.
[06:02] <AWOSDev> so do I "set WWWDOCROOT=/whatever"
[06:02] <flaccid> like c64 geos?
[06:03] <AWOSDev> Dr_willis Oh yeah that would *ROCK*
[06:03] <AWOSDev> Dr_willis I even tried to install my old GEOS on my 586 the other day
[06:03] <AWOSDev> couldn't get the display driver to work :(
[06:03] <AWOSDev> So how do I set a "make option"
[06:03] <AWOSDev> ?
[06:04] <Admiral_Chicago> AWOSDev, apt-get install build-essential
[06:04] <AWOSDev> This is on my FreeBSD machine
[06:04] <Admiral_Chicago> to compile from source
[06:04] <tony_> Hello , I Need a simple direction and help on daul booting with WIndows..
[06:04] <AWOSDev> :P
[06:04] <Admiral_Chicago> oh
[06:04] <AWOSDev> I just want to know how to set a make option
[06:04] <tony_> I am going to install window on second partition .. but after while i will remove it
[06:04] <Admiral_Chicago> AWOSDev, ./configure       make
[06:04] <AWOSDev> tony_ Don't; get Qemu
[06:04] <Admiral_Chicago> make install
[06:05] <flaccid> make --help?
[06:05] <AWOSDev> !qemu
[06:05] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[06:05] <Dr_willis> Vmware seems to be much faster then qemu for me.
[06:05] <tony_> so i made a back up of my grup folder and after removing partition i will restore the back up
[06:05] <AWOSDev> ./configure: Command not found.
[06:05] <AWOSDev> I'm trying to make a port.
[06:05] <tony_> would this help to bring my grub back to what it is now ? ( single boot )
[06:05] <AWOSDev> from the /usr/ports directory
[06:05] <flaccid> hehe this isn't a bsd help chan :p
[06:06] <flaccid> tony_: no
[06:06] <AWOSDev> tony_, trust me, Qemu or VMware would be so much better
[06:06] <flaccid> tony_: perhaps editing grub.conf?
[06:06] <DaveQB> umm k3b and wma.  Is it possible ?
[06:06] <AWOSDev> even a XP under Qemu how-to up there
[06:06] <Dr_willis> windows xp has a fixmbr command to overwrite the mbr
[06:06] <tony_> hummm
[06:06] <flaccid> i don't know how a vm would be faster than native
[06:06] <Dr_willis> the xp cd can doit.
[06:06] <Dr_willis> but i missed what the actual problem is.
[06:07] <tony_> so qemu is good thing to go with ???
[06:07] <AWOSDev> Dr_willis he wants to install XP then go back after a while and remove Windows and go back to Kubuntu only
[06:07] <tony_> and when i want to remove it , wont damange my linux installation and leave extra stuff behinde ?
[06:07] <AWOSDev> tony_, that's the point of Qemu.
[06:07] <AWOSDev> Yes
[06:07] <tony_> where can i find Qemu
[06:08] <AWOSDev> tony_, in the Konsole, type sudo apt-get install qemu
[06:08] <Dr_willis> or install vmware. :P but heck  the way xp is - it will take you a day to just get it working
[06:08] <AWOSDev> flaccid, I know this isn't a BSD channel but the BSD channels aren't very nice to me because I don't know the inner workings of FreeBSD.
[06:09] <AWOSDev> I'm a stupid n00b to them
[06:09] <tony_> i am installing qemu, and i will install win2k pro. not xp .. hope that would be much easier
[06:09] <AWOSDev> I *want* to learn
[06:09] <flaccid> sounds about right
[06:09] <ryan_> will more desktops slow down my computer
[06:09] <AWOSDev> tony_, yes Windows 2000 or XP or heck even another Linux; Qemu will do it all!
[06:09] <AWOSDev> ryan_, um no not really
[06:09] <Dr_willis> why do ya even need windows for just a short time? :P
[06:10] <tony_> good, installation complete  , now i have to figure , where is it been installed :)
[06:10] <Dr_willis> ryan_,  you mean virtual desktops  that are the default of 4 ?
[06:10] <Dr_willis> qemu will take a little reading.
[06:10] <ryan_> yeah virtual desktops
[06:10] <AWOSDev> ryan_, virtual desktops are just like directories to sort your running applications
[06:11] <Dr_willis> ya need to make a hard drive file for it touse. then boot it with the cd. or better yet a iso image of the cd.
[06:11] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> !traceroute
[06:11] <ubotu> traceroute: traces the route taken by packets over a TCP/IP network. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4a12-20 (dapper), package size 21 kB, installed size 104 kB
[06:11] <Audimage> how do i get rid of that annoying jumping icon under my mouse when i open an app
[06:12] <freaky_> just thought i would say hello (goes back to lurking after saying hi)
[06:12] <lupine_85_> launch feedback
[06:12] <ryan_> ok....i was jusk trying to figure out why my computer is all or a sudden running slow
[06:12] <lupine_85_> in system settings somewhere
[06:12] <AWOSDev> tony_, go read the Qemu documentation from here:
[06:12] <AWOSDev> http://kidsquid.com/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/QuickStartGuide#head-df84d962889bcd7cf08d2f20481228360a1f5062
[06:12] <tony_> well, i think i need to reboot so for qeum to show up .. be right back
[06:12] <Dr_willis> tony_,  no you dont
[06:12] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> whats the command for that...   tarceroute?
[06:12] <Dr_willis> it dont have an icon as far as i know
[06:12] <tony_> humm.
[06:12] <Dr_willis> qemu --help
[06:12] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:13] <ryan_> i had it at 10 desktops then backed it back town to 4 and it didnt do anything
[06:13] <Dr_willis> and ooooodles of options will apear
[06:13] <tony_> ohh,. is it shell based ??
[06:13] <Audimage> does anybody know how to get rid of the jumping icon under my mouse when an app is opening
[06:13] <Dr_willis> everything is shell based. :P
[06:13] <Dr_willis> its just some times the shell app launches a gui. :)
[06:13] <AWOSDev> Audimage: System Settings->Mouse
[06:13] <tony_> LOL DR..
[06:13] <Audimage> awosdev: i've looked there, but i can't find the correct option
[06:13] <tony_> im new to linux .
[06:13] <freaky_> even windows apps are shell based
[06:14] <AWOSDev> "Visual feedback on activation"
[06:14] <AWOSDev> ^ Audimage that's what you're looking for
[06:14] <AWOSDev> Under "Icons"
[06:14] <Audimage> it is unchecked, and they keep popping up
[06:14] <AWOSDev> towards the bottom
[06:14] <Audimage> i thought that was it too
[06:14] <AWOSDev> hmmm.....
[06:15] <AWOSDev> I think it's cute so I'm not sure how to remove it :P
[06:15] <Audimage> i want to squish it under my foot
[06:15] <Audimage> i hate it
[06:15] <freaky_> LOL
[06:15] <tony_> can in install other window application , within qemu enviroment ????
[06:15] <Audimage> it is all mac osxed up
[06:15] <AWOSDev> tony_, yes
[06:16] <tony_> such as macromedia , dot net framwork
[06:16] <AWOSDev> tony_, yep
[06:16] <tony_> cool
[06:16] <AWOSDev> even Visual Studio .NET
[06:16] <tony_> that would be even better
[06:16] <AWOSDev> it's basically a computer within a computer :)
[06:16] <tony_> while in the subject.
[06:16] <tony_> dose anyone know of any PHP IDE ( good one  ) for linux
[06:16] <AWOSDev> KDevelop
[06:17] <tony_> thanks AWOSdev
[06:17] <tony_> will give that a try
[06:17] <AWOSDev> tony_, Yeah it's neat
[06:17] <AWOSDev> even lets you do Linux programming, with C/C++ and Ruby and stuff
[06:17] <tony_> OH OH OH , i wanting to ask you this
[06:18] <tony_> dose anyone know anything about KXDOCKER ??? :| LOOKS NEAT :)
[06:18] <Dr_willis> icky eye candy
[06:18] <AWOSDev> kxdocker? no...
[06:18] <Dr_willis> causes cavaities
[06:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:18] <AWOSDev> !info kxdocker
[06:18] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.39-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 253 kB, installed size 832 kB
[06:18] <tony_> kxdocker makes the linux look like MACOSX
[06:19] <AWOSDev> Wow.
[06:19] <Dr_willis> many would not consider that a good thing. :P
[06:19] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> Ewwww   mac on Linux...   Hmmmm
[06:19] <tony_> HUHH. is there one for ubuntu ???
[06:19] <AWOSDev> You know I was trying to convince one of my Windows friends to move to Linux.
[06:19] <AWOSDev> So I changed the 'K' icon to the Windows logo and the Konqueror icon to the IE logo
[06:19] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> and hows that going AWOSDev?
[06:19] <Audimage> hahaha
[06:19] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> hehe
[06:19] <AWOSDev> Change the background to green
[06:19] <Linux_Galore> tony_: kdocker is the old unstable branch its called smoothdock not www.kde-apps.org
[06:19] <AWOSDev> She's considering it...
[06:20] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> Hmmmm
[06:20] <Linux_Galore> now*
[06:20] <Dr_willis> a Linux Chick!
[06:20] <Audimage> hot
[06:20] <freaky_> lol
[06:20] <Dr_willis> all because of eye candy
[06:20] <AWOSDev> and another friend wants Linux to have Linux
[06:20] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> well, just hack into her box and show her how much more secure Linux can be..
[06:20] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> ;)
[06:20] <AWOSDev> She's done with Windows
[06:20] <AWOSDev> She hates Mozilla, she hates IE, she hates Windows
[06:20] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> good 4 her!   :)
[06:20] <Audimage> mozilla rocks
[06:20] <AWOSDev> so I'm gonna surprise her on her birthday next month with a new computer with Linux on it :)
[06:21] <tony_> kxdocker new version i think is 1.4 somehting, i can NOT undrestand anything from the site ..
[06:21] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> Ewwww  nice
[06:21] <Linux_Galore> I noticed smoothdock isnt on the ubuntu repo's, the source compiled fine though on dapper
[06:21] <tony_> very hard to follow information
[06:21] <morghanphoenix> Okay, new sources list, now it wants to remove kdelibs-bin.
[06:21] <Audimage> does anybody else have any idea how to remove the jumping icon under the mouse when an app is opening?
[06:21] <morghanphoenix> That's not okay is it?
[06:21] <Linux_Galore> tony_: kxdocker is dead, its now called smoothdock
[06:21] <AWOSDev> morghanphoenix yes it is
[06:21] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> tony_:  welcome to Linux buddy..  :p
[06:21] <AWOSDev> it did that to me too
[06:21] <AWOSDev> morghanphoenix It will reinstall it
[06:21] <Bropho> hello
[06:22] <arunkale> hello
[06:22] <AWOSDev> it's getting the latest from KDE themselves
[06:22] <morghanphoenix> wierd
[06:22] <AWOSDev> freaked me out too :)
[06:22] <arunkale> what freaked you out?
[06:22] <tony_> thanks .. :) ..
[06:22] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> AWOSDev:  U ever use ummmmm  whats that one that makes all kinda neet slick little icons on the desktop[ n stuff..??
[06:22] <morghanphoenix> yeah, I might be a newbie but I was preddy sure that was necessary.
[06:22] <AWOSDev> CaBIGuy-SuRfErKi - um no what is it?
[06:23] <Linux_Galore> tony_: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=6585
[06:23] <Bropho> im bored
[06:23] <morghanphoenix> looking for the animated launch icon thingy
[06:23] <morghanphoenix> it's starting to bug me too.
[06:23] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> Ummmm    I can't remember what the name of it is..  but you can change everything on the desktop..
[06:23] <arunkale> Bropho: Join the club :)
[06:23] <AWOSDev> I like the bouncy one where it's the printer
[06:23] <Audimage> me too
[06:23] <AWOSDev> it looks like a happy little baby printer :)
[06:23] <Linux_Galore> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: eer kcontrol
[06:23] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> lol
[06:24] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> Linux_Galore: nope..  it's an add on ..
[06:24] <morghanphoenix> yeah, but it tends to erase everything under it when it's loading
[06:24] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> dangit..
[06:24] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> :|
[06:24] <Bropho> i am so freakin bored!
[06:24] <AWOSDev> Bropho, meet ubotu:
[06:24] <AWOSDev> !games
[06:24] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[06:24] <AWOSDev> Some of my faves are:
[06:24] <Linux_Galore> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: you can change anything on the desktop as it is, just need to add the kcontrol plugins
[06:25] <AWOSDev> !kpat
[06:25] <ubotu> kpat: KDE solitaire patience game. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 318 kB, installed size 792 kB
[06:25] <AWOSDev> !torcs
[06:25] <ubotu> torcs: 3D racing cars simulator game using OpenGL. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4-1ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 4368 kB, installed size 20900 kB
[06:25] <morghanphoenix> argh!
[06:25] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> Linux_Galore:  well, this one I was thinkin about you can make your own menues, and icons (make them look how you want them to) and all kinda other stuff..
[06:25] <Linux_Galore> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: it custom taskbars = dekorator
[06:25] <Linux_Galore> ie*
[06:25] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> I can't rember the name of it though..
[06:25] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> :/
[06:26] <AWOSDev> morghanphoenix: what did it really remove kdelibs-bin?  :)
[06:26] <Linux_Galore> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: yes i can do all that in kcontrol
[06:26] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> Linux_Galore:  it's NOT kcontrol..
[06:26] <morghanphoenix> how do I get the xscreensaves to work, gls work, xs work in gnome, but won't work in KDE.
[06:26] <unix_infidel> !w32codecs
[06:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:27] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> !desktop add on
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about desktop add on - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:27] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> ummm
[06:27] <unix_infidel> is there a repos that has the w32 codecs?
[06:27] <Linux_Galore> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: you add it "too" kcontrol sheesh, dont you read anything
[06:27] <unix_infidel> both sveas and cipher seem to be down.
[06:27] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> Linux_Galore:  ok, so whats the name of the app then??
[06:27] <Linux_Galore> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: depends on what you want to change
[06:28] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> yea..  thanks mr know it all.  :
[06:28] <Linux_Galore> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: to change my start menu layout I use kbfx
[06:28] <Linux_Galore> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: and yes thats a kcontrol add on
[06:29] <Linux_Galore> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: to make a totally wack window setup I use decorator
[06:29] <Linux_Galore> dekorator*
[06:29] <Bropho> any1 know where to get patches for battlefield for linux
[06:29] <Linux_Galore> and ooh god know its a kcontrol add on too
[06:29] <Linux_Galore> no*
[06:30] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> Nope,.   none of them..
[06:30] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> sorry...
[06:30] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> Im lookin now..
[06:33] <Linux_Galore> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: I think your thinking of baghira
[06:33] <Linux_Galore> but thats a theme engine
[06:33] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> nope, that's not it neather.,   Ummmm
[06:33] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> dang it, I wish I could remeber it..
[06:34] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> it's a stand alone app but you have to "build" the menues and icons and stuff but it looks really slick..
[06:34] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> so, there is some coding involved..
[06:34] <Linux_Galore> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: hmm karamba
[06:35] <Linux_Galore> there applets
[06:35] <Linux_Galore> http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=38
[06:35] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> naa..  hang on, Im still lookin.
[06:38] <abattoir> you guys speaking about a docker?
[06:38] <abattoir> !kxdocker
[06:38] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.39-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 253 kB, installed size 832 kB
[06:38] <abattoir> google that for images
[06:39] <ubuntu> wow
[06:40] <Linux_Galore> accept kxdocker is deprecated
[06:40] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> I found it!!!
[06:40] <abattoir> Linux_Galore: aah, i see you already tried it...
[06:40] <Linux_Galore> its not called smoothdock
[06:40] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> enlightenment..
[06:40] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> :)
[06:40] <Linux_Galore> now*
[06:40] <abattoir> Linux_Galore: kxdocker is 'deprecated' ????
[06:40] <aoeuid> I'm having a bit of trouble installing kubuntu, the installer always says that it can't mount the partition, and I have no idea how to fix it
[06:40] <Linux_Galore> I have smoothdock installed
[06:40] <aoeuid> could someone please help?
[06:40] <Linux_Galore> abattoir: its been renamed smoothdock
[06:41] <abattoir> Linux_Galore: you mean by XQDocker?
[06:41] <Linux_Galore> smoothdock -> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=6585
[06:41] <abattoir> Linux_Galore: haha, of course it has not :)
[06:41] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> aoeuid:  yur trying to boot into Ubuntu?
[06:41] <aoeuid> to install kubuntu
[06:41] <Linux_Galore> abattoir: click on the link ^^
[06:41] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> Oh..
[06:41] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> K ubuntu..
[06:41] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> well..
[06:42] <abattoir> Linux_Galore: ok, i'm there... and?
[06:42] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> K has been havin probs since day one..
[06:42] <aoeuid> heh
[06:42] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> if you want..
[06:42] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> U can DL plain Ubuntu, and install K afterward..
[06:42] <aoeuid> do you think that would work better?
[06:43] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> that's what I did..
[06:43] <aoeuid> install*
[06:43] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> and I installed K after the fact and I've had no problems..
[06:43] <abattoir> Linux_Galore: i cant find anything on that page where it says it 'replaced' or 'deprecated' kxdocker :)
[06:43] <aoeuid> I don't think the fact that it can't mount the drive has to do with it beink kde
[06:43] <aoeuid> but I don't know how to fix it :/
[06:44] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> ok..  see if you can mount another CD in the drive and then see if it works..
[06:44] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> Or..
[06:44] <aoeuid> huh?
[06:44] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> are you talki bout the HDD?
[06:44] <aoeuid> umm
[06:44] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> hard drive disk
[06:44] <aoeuid> it says it can't mount sda4
[06:44] <aoeuid> yeah
[06:44] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> ok.
[06:44] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> that's not a K problem..
[06:45] <aoeuid> yeah
[06:45] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> you have another windowz machine?
[06:45] <aoeuid> sure
[06:45] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> k..
[06:45] <Linux_Galore> abattoir: try this simple thing, when was the last fix for kxdocker, not when did smoothdock start
[06:45] <Linux_Galore> now*
[06:45] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> hook up the HDD and format it there and then go to insatll and see what it says.
[06:45] <arunkale> is there a solitaire-like game for kubuntu
[06:45] <Linux_Galore> abattoir: you can use kxdocker but its dead in the water
[06:46] <aoeuid> huhh?
[06:46] <aoeuid> nvm
[06:47] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> aoeuid:  ok, check it..  hook up the hard disk to your windowz amchine and format the drive THEN see if K can be installed on it..
[06:47] <Linux_Galore> abattoir: a new version of smoothdock was released just a few days ago
[06:47] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> kapeach?
[06:47] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> :p
[06:47] <Linux_Galore> abattoir: and trust me its way more stable than kxdocker and works 100% better
[06:47] <abattoir> Linux_Galore: i dont want to get into a flamewar, and i guess this is offtopic....
[06:48] <Linux_Galore> abattoir: kxdocker isnt being worked on anymore so smoothdock was started
[06:48] <aoeuid> for one thing, I cant do that since this is a laptop
[06:48] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> Linux_Galore:  did you see my message when I said what it was I was thinkin of?
[06:48] <aoeuid> for another, I;m dual booting here
[06:48] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> aoeuid:  ok see, you have to give us specifics..
[06:48] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> :p
[06:48] <aoeuid> I'll just use partition magic here
[06:48] <aoeuid> cya
[06:49] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> there ya go
[06:49] <abattoir> Linux_Galore: but just to complete my point, KSmoothDock was submitted on 11 Jun 2003, the last update for KXdocker was on 15 Apr. 2006
[06:49] <abattoir> Linux_Galore: nope, that is not true at all, who says that, any links? :)
[06:49] <Linux_Galore> abattoir: yes kxdocker hasnt been patched for ages
[06:50] <abattoir> Linux_Galore: work on kxdocker has stopped, i agree, but that's because stefano is working on XQDocker(for Qt/KDE4)
[06:50] <abattoir> it is *not* replaced by KSmoothDock
[06:50] <Linux_Galore> abattoir: it is for me because kxdocker is a buggy mess and smoothdock isnt
[06:50] <abattoir> and i stop here, if you still are convinced about what you say, i suggest we go somewhere else :)
[06:51] <abattoir> Linux_Galore: well, then please say that explicity instead of misleading people :)
[06:52] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> !Enlightenment
[06:52] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[06:52] <bobbyyu> Where can I get Sun's JDK that's compatible with Kubuntu?
[06:52] <Linux_Galore> abattoir: use both and then come back, there the same, just one actually works
[06:52] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> !java
[06:52] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[06:52] <abattoir> Linux_Galore: i have used both :)
[06:53] <Linux_Galore> abattoir: and he's doing the docker for kde4, you have to be mad kxdocker was horrible
[06:53] <abattoir> Linux_Galore: it works perfectly well for me, as a matter of fact i'm using it right now...
[06:53] <Linux_Galore> abattoir: the menu layout was rubbish
[06:54] <abattoir> Linux_Galore: you mean for the configurator?
[06:54] <Linux_Galore> yes
[06:54] <abattoir> Linux_Galore: or do you mean Kmenu?
[06:54] <Linux_Galore> and to change anything you have to think like a dyslexic monkey
[06:54] <Linux_Galore> no the kxdocker config tool
[06:55] <abattoir> Linux_Galore: well, as i said, you are happy w/ KSmoothdock, and you use, i'm happy w/ kxdocker, the point it the former did not replace the latter, so lets please stop here...
[06:56] <abattoir> *the point is
[06:56] <smaggard> Hi!
[06:56] <rod> hi, i have apache2 and php set up fine with mysql, but when i try and use the php cli binary it doesn't have the mysql library loaded.  i've looked through adept but can't find the package to install to enable it, can anyone help?
[06:57] <Linux_Galore> abattoir: the project is still dead in the water and telling users to use a dead in the water project isnt good advice
[06:58] <smaggard> have you tried this yet? http://forge.mysql.com/wiki/PHP_FAQ just wondering...
[06:59] <smaggard> it may not be something you can just install a package from adept or aptget you might have to do some config and manual download
[06:59] <unix_infidel> anyone know where i can checkout cvs-vim
[06:59] <AWOSDev> arunkale:
[06:59] <AWOSDev> !kpat
[06:59] <ubotu> kpat: KDE solitaire patience game. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 318 kB, installed size 792 kB
[06:59] <unix_infidel> cvs.sf.net seems to have been down for the last 24hours+
[07:00] <bobbyyu> What's a good backports repository?
[07:00] <arunkale> thanks :)
[07:00] <AWOSDev> arunkale, np
[07:00] <AWOSDev> :)
[07:02] <unix_infidel> anyone?
[07:03] <AWOSDev> unix_infidel, I can ping them
[07:03] <abattoir> unix_infidel: http://vim.cvs.sourceforge.net/vim/ works for me
[07:04] <unix_infidel> bah, stupid jammeson.
[07:04] <unix_infidel> gave me the wrong url for checkout.
[07:04] <unix_infidel> finally getting around to compiling vim :)
[07:05] <unix_infidel> abattoir: you using vim7?
[07:05] <abattoir> unix_infidel: no i use only kate
[07:06] <flaccid> anybody here can help me with ati prop. driver ?
[07:10] <flaccid> [2006-09-24 15:09]  <flaccid> for some reason i changed to prop driver with xorg.conf
[07:10] <flaccid> [2006-09-24 15:09]  <flaccid> but fglrxinfo outputs: display: :0.0  screen: 0 | OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org | OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect | OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)
[07:10] <flaccid> [2006-09-24 15:10]  <flaccid> and atieventsd goes up to 100% cpu usage
[07:10] <Tulga> my ISP blocked 1 site. I need that site. is it possible?
[07:10] <flaccid> Tulga: http tunnel/proxy
[07:11] <unix_infidel> how do i tell if a certain package is installed or not from repos?
[07:11] <Tulga> flaccid: tnx
[07:11] <flaccid> unix_infidel: dpkg -l | grep -i packagename
[07:11] <unix_infidel> flaccid: gracias.
[07:11] <flaccid> np
[07:12] <flaccid> anyone here use ati prop. drivers?
[07:12] <unix_infidel> compiling vim7 :)
[07:12] <unix_infidel> temp jumped from 43 to 61C
[07:12] <unix_infidel> (laptop)
[07:12] <uncannybuzzard> flaccid, are you running an ati card?
[07:12] <uncannybuzzard> whoops
[07:13] <uncannybuzzard> have you tried running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and changing ati to fglrx?
[07:14] <jamadagni> anyone tried kubuntu edgy knot 3?
[07:14] <uncannybuzzard> and does anyone know how to get big desktop up and running properly?
[07:15] <AWOSDev> flaccid: I do with no problems.
[07:16] <uncannybuzzard> guh?
[07:19] <uncannybuzzard> anyone know anything about big desktop at all? :P
[07:25] <abattoir> jamadagni: yes, why do you ask?
[07:26] <jamadagni> @abattoir - did you see the usplash having the left part of word "kubuntu" on the right and vice versa?
[07:29] <eroman> anyone know how to do xgl with kubuntu, some how to or something ???
[07:30] <flaccid> uncannybuzzard: there is no option in the reconfigure to change to fglrx
[07:31] <arunkale> can someone tell me how to remove those dots that come before every character while using kate?
[07:32] <flaccid> are they tabs?
[07:32] <abattoir> jamadagni: are you runnign it through an emulator?
[07:32] <uncannybuzzard> no
[07:32] <abattoir> !xgl
[07:32] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:32] <abattoir> eroman: ^^^^
[07:32] <abattoir> bleh
[07:33] <uncannybuzzard> you've installed the ati drivers eh?
[07:33] <flaccid> yes i have
[07:33] <uncannybuzzard> hrm
[07:33] <uncannybuzzard> see, i had the same problem up until about 20 min ago
[07:33] <flaccid> can you have a look at my xorg.conf
[07:33] <flaccid> are you on ati, uncannybuzzard?
[07:34] <uncannybuzzard> oh wait, there is a line in xorg.conf that says Driver        "ati"
[07:34] <uncannybuzzard> did you change that to fglrx?
[07:34] <flaccid> yes i did
[07:34] <flaccid> http://pastebin.ca/180740
[07:34] <flaccid> there is my xorg
[07:36] <uncannybuzzard> and there is no place in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg that asks you for your driver?
[07:36] <flaccid> nope
[07:36] <flaccid> it comes up with debconf
[07:36] <flaccid> and i can't find an option for that
[07:37] <uncannybuzzard> hang on
[07:38] <jamadagni> @abattoir - no
[07:38] <jamadagni> real install
[07:38] <abattoir> jamadagni: ok, and what is your monitor's native resolution?
[07:38] <uncannybuzzard> ok, when you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, a screen comes up asking about auto-detecting video junk?
[07:39] <flaccid> unc, yes
[07:39] <jamadagni> native? 1024x768 i guess
[07:39] <flaccid> uncannybuzzard: run me through it? you know the right options?
[07:40] <abattoir> jamadagni: there are some issues, i think it'll be fixed... so i guess it's known...
[07:40] <uncannybuzzard> and if you hit yes, a list of server drivers comes up?
[07:40] <jamadagni> ok bye thanks
[07:40] <abattoir> jamadagni: and what about tty s ?
[07:40] <uncannybuzzard> with ati highlighted
[07:40] <abattoir> jamadagni: do they look normal?
[07:40] <jamadagni> ttys?
[07:40] <jamadagni> didn't try
[07:40] <flaccid> uncannybuzzard: if i check the first box to auto detect hardware, the next screen is attempt monitor detection?
[07:40] <jamadagni> will try and respond later
[07:40] <jamadagni> gotta run now
[07:40] <abattoir> jamadagni: virtual terminals... ok :)
[07:40] <jamadagni> sorry
[07:40] <plugs> what's the difference between su and sudo
[07:41] <jamadagni> plugs - search the ubuntu wiki and forums
[07:41] <flaccid> i then next screen is enter an identifier for your monitor
[07:41] <flaccid> i put in an id
[07:41] <flaccid> next screen is resolutions
[07:41] <uncannybuzzard> ok, run that over again and don't auto detect
[07:41] <flaccid> ok i try uncannybuzzard
[07:42] <flaccid> uncannybuzzard: never get the option
[07:43] <uncannybuzzard> weird
[07:43] <uncannybuzzard> i have no idea how to help you out then
[07:43] <flaccid> dang
[07:43] <flaccid> thanks anyway
[07:43] <flaccid> sux hard
[07:43] <AWOSDev> what's wrong?
[07:43] <uncannybuzzard> what version of ubuntu are you running?
[07:43] <flaccid> dapper
[07:44] <flaccid> i select multiple resolutions, it doesn't look like they go in xorg.conf
[07:44] <AWOSDev> just vi xorg.conf
[07:44] <uncannybuzzard> me too, it's odd those are different
[07:44] <AWOSDev> add them manually
[07:44] <flaccid> AWOSDev: my real issue is getting ati prop. to go
[07:46] <waldschatten> AWOSDev You wouldn't happen to know how to log out of just one Kopete screen name would you?
[07:46] <AWOSDev> Um
[07:46] <AWOSDev> no
[07:46] <flaccid> brb
[07:46] <AWOSDev> Oh
[07:46] <AWOSDev> waldschatten
[07:46] <AWOSDev> go under the network you're on and click 'offline'
[07:46] <waldschatten> Guess I'm gonna have to kill the whole thing to get my primary name freed up
[07:47] <AWOSDev> you have two nicks on one server?
[07:47] <AWOSDev> how in the world did you manage that one?
[07:47] <InteliWasp> i have an intresting question... why do my removable drives(cd-rom and ipod) keep remounting?
[07:47] <AWOSDev> InteliWasp, in what way?
[07:47] <waldschatten> Not sure.
[07:48] <waldschatten> They told me I needed a backup screen name
[07:48] <InteliWasp> the "what do you want to do" dialog keeps poping up for my ipod and konq opens on my cd drive
[07:48] <samjnaa> abattoir you here?
[07:48] <samjnaa> i am in edgy now
[07:48] <AWOSDev> That's weird
[07:48] <abattoir> samjnaa: yes, i am
[07:48] <samjnaa> i was able to login to all the tty-s
[07:48] <AWOSDev> FreeBSD has the KTux screen saver :P
[07:48] <waldschatten> argh!
[07:48] <samjnaa> samjnaa = jamadagni yo usee
[07:48] <abattoir> samjnaa: yes, i got that bit :)
[07:48] <samjnaa> :D
[07:49] <AWOSDev> InteliWasp are they already mounted?
[07:49] <samjnaa> ok but the only difference i see is that the tty's don't seem to be in full text mode
[07:49] <samjnaa> i mean, it's the sort of framebuffer text or whatever
[07:49] <flaccid> no luck guys
[07:49] <InteliWasp> they were shown on the desktop but not mounted
[07:49] <abattoir> samjnaa: hmmm ok, so they look normal then(in terms of the rest of the appearance) ?
[07:50] <InteliWasp> ie the no green thigny
[07:50] <flaccid> can somebody using ati prop. driver (from sources) pastebin their xorg.conf?
[07:50] <samjnaa> well yes
[07:50] <samjnaa> i was able to login
[07:50] <samjnaa> so far
[07:50] <samjnaa> what did you expect?
[07:50] <AWOSDev> InteliWasp no clue :l
[07:51] <InteliWasp> oh well
[07:51] <InteliWasp> btw another question, how can i configure my ati remote?
[07:51] <samjnaa> i was able to login
[07:52] <flaccid> i found the bug to this http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problems_with_fglrx#Perpetual_Mesa_GLX_Indirect_on_Debian
[07:53] <waldschatten> ns
[07:53] <flaccid> i brb
[07:54] <damian_> ls
[07:54] <damian_> whoops
[07:55] <abattoir> samjnaa: no, i expected your ttys to be split like the kubuntu logo as well :)
[07:55] <AWOSDev> Ahh
[07:55] <AWOSDev> The guy who hated the bouncy cursor
[07:55] <AWOSDev> are you still here?
[07:55] <abattoir> samjnaa: if you want you can file a bug in launchpad(not sure if one already exists though)
[07:56] <abattoir> samjnaa: but i'm pretty sure the usplash is being worked upon :)
[07:56] <morghanphoenix> finally
[07:57] <morghanphoenix> Remind me never to use kopete for irc again
[07:57] <morghanphoenix> lol
[07:57] <AWOSDev> :P
[07:58] <AWOSDev> audimage
[07:59] <arunkale> you use kopete for irc?
[07:59] <arunkale> why?!
[07:59] <morghanphoenix> Just trying it
[07:59] <abattoir> arunkale: because it looks prettier? :P
[08:00] <morghanphoenix> woo hoo!
[08:00] <unix_infidel> heh.
[08:00] <unix_infidel> i think irssi looks pretty :)
[08:01] <arunkale> abattoir: konversation is cool
[08:01] <AWOSDev> morghanphoenix, but how?
[08:01] <morghanphoenix> same way as in kopete
[08:02] <rjian> anyoebody teach me how to update the repositor of kubuntu??
[08:02] <AWOSDev> I don't see plugins anywhere
[08:02] <morghanphoenix> just type the command
[08:02] <morghanphoenix> see
[08:02] <AWOSDev> :)
[08:03] <morghanphoenix> figured I had to give it a try
[08:03] <AWOSDev> So that's how Bran did it
[08:03] <morghanphoenix> the noob strikes again
[08:03] <morghanphoenix> lol
[08:03] <AWOSDev> (Bran is a guy in #OSDev that does that every now and again; uses Debian)
[08:04] <abattoir> rjian: sure, run 'sudo apt-get update' in a terminal... or click on 'Fetch Updates' in adept.
[08:04] <morghanphoenix> so, is 300 megs normal for virtual memory usage in kubuntu?
[08:05] <AWOSDev> Depends
[08:05] <AWOSDev> how much memory you have
[08:05] <AWOSDev> Mem:    255484k total,   250380k used,     5104k free,    11900k buffers
[08:05] <AWOSDev> Swap:   509784k total,   182060k used,   327724k free,    99208k cached
[08:05] <morghanphoenix> 256
[08:05] <AWOSDev> Now what do you have up?
[08:05] <morghanphoenix> 729 swap
[08:05] <morghanphoenix> amarok, kopete, konversation and ktorrent
[08:06] <morghanphoenix> I'm using 450 now though
[08:06] <AWOSDev> I have Konsole, Gwenview, 9 Konqueror tabs, System settings, KDevelop, amaroK, Konversation, Kwallet, Adept, KAMix and Klipper
[08:06] <AWOSDev> are you in top?
[08:06] <morghanphoenix> Yeah, that sounds like mine last night.
[08:07] <morghanphoenix> eh?
[08:07] <AWOSDev> in the Konsole
[08:07] <AWOSDev> type top
[08:07] <AWOSDev> And just to gloat:
[08:07] <AWOSDev> up 8 days, 10:19,  1 user,  load average: 0.40, 0.47, 0.69
[08:08] <morghanphoenix> yakuake didn't restart when I rebooted, just a sec
[08:08] <AWOSDev> yakuwhat?
[08:08] <AWOSDev> !info yakuake
[08:08] <ubotu> yakuake: Yet Another Kuake, KDE terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 67 kB, installed size 488 kB
[08:08] <AWOSDev> I love that bot!
[08:08] <AWOSDev> !botsnack
[08:08] <ubotu> Yum!
[08:09] <morghanphoenix> console, hit f12 to drop it down from the screen top
[08:09] <morghanphoenix> Always on so it loads lots faster than Konsole.
[08:09] <AWOSDev> Oh
[08:09] <AWOSDev> Konsole takes maybe three seconds to load for me
[08:09] <AWOSDev> how much MHz?
[08:09] <AWOSDev> I have 500
[08:09] <morghanphoenix> Ahh, Karamba
[08:09] <morghanphoenix> that's what I forgot
[08:10] <morghanphoenix> 1200
[08:10] <AWOSDev> !?
[08:10] <morghanphoenix> Only 256 ram
[08:10] <AWOSDev> and you complain about how long Konsole takes?!
[08:10] <serishema> i'm having trouble with sudo not working. I'm using ldap and sudo will authenticate against it. But it won't actually do anything..
[08:10] <flaccid> how can i do a sudo apt-get install linux-header-(current kernel version) ?
[08:10] <serishema> it'll ask for my password and it knows if it's right or wrong but it never actually runs the command
[08:11] <morghanphoenix> Junk parts, found a good processor, but memory is lacking
[08:11] <AWOSDev> serishema, try sudo -s
[08:11] <serishema> nothing happened
[08:11] <morghanphoenix> 4 seccond load time for konsole
[08:11] <AWOSDev> morghan my man
[08:11] <morghanphoenix> 500ms load time for yakuake
[08:11] <AWOSDev> you need some MEMORY!
[08:12] <morghanphoenix> I know, the place I volunteer at will sell me a gig for $80
[08:12] <AWOSDev> Ooh get it quick!
[08:12] <morghanphoenix> I just need to stop smoking so I have money for computer parts
[08:12] <AWOSDev> There's your reason
[08:12] <AWOSDev> more money for computer parts!
[08:12] <AWOSDev> :)
[08:12] <morghanphoenix> It's a standing offer, and fifty cents a gig for hard disks
[08:13] <AWOSDev> Where do you volunteer at?
[08:13] <AWOSDev> and where can I get an application?  :)
[08:13] <flaccid> i'm having problem doing sudo apt-get install linux-headers-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27
[08:13] <flaccid> oops i see prob
[08:13] <morghanphoenix> I volunteer at a place that takes computers that have been thrown out and builds systems to  ship overseas to schools in underprivledged parts of the world.
[08:14] <flaccid> hmm what is my prob with sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27
[08:15] <morghanphoenix> They have a contract with total reclaim so all recycled computers come through thier warehouse and we check the parts to see what works and build systems for schools out of it.
[08:15] <morghanphoenix> That's how I got the 1.2Ghz, somebody'd beat the case up, looked like with steel toed boots.
[08:16] <arunkale> how do i change the fonts in open office to look like my normal fonts?
[08:16] <morghanphoenix> They couldn't ship it busted up so I piped up and got to take it home with me.
[08:16] <morghanphoenix> oops, I'm in the main room, sorry for the off-topic.
[08:18] <arunkale> how do i change the font settings in open office?
[08:18] <arunkale> anti aliasing, etc?
[08:21] <kayey78> how can i play mp3 on kubuntu??
[08:22] <kayey78> what player will i use?
[08:23] <morghanphoenix> I use amarok
[08:23] <morghanphoenix> or xmms
[08:23] <ubuntu> i sue sousoutte
[08:24] <Linux_Galore> kayey78: drop a mp3 file on your desktop and click on it
[08:24] <Linux_Galore> kayey78: it should ask you to install mp3 support
[08:24] <kayey78> hmm i want to install XMMS it says could not find package??
[08:24] <morghanphoenix> You have to install xine and the libxine-extracodecs, possibly lame too
[08:25] <morghanphoenix> got your rpositories set?
[08:25] <Linux_Galore> kayey78: xmms isnt in the same league as amarok
[08:25] <morghanphoenix> no, it's not
[08:25] <morghanphoenix> amaroK is my favorite.
[08:25] <kayey78> yup i dont know how to set the repositors on kubuntu?? how can i do it??
[08:26] <morghanphoenix> I use xmms for playing single files to test them out, it loads a lot faster.
[08:26] <ubuntu> suck mo gogot
[08:26] <ubuntu> senzor
[08:26] <ubuntu> el mana wastah
[08:26] <morghanphoenix> I can't remember the source-o-matic url
[08:26] <Linux_Galore> kayey78: in simple terms you open up adept and under view there is a manage repo section then you just look at the lines and activate multiverse etc
[08:26] <ubuntu> when is liverpool playing?
[08:27] <morghanphoenix> try googling it
[08:27] <ubuntu> :s
[08:27] <ubuntu> am lagfging
[08:28] <kayey78> multiverse?? wer?
[08:29] <morghanphoenix> checking
[08:29] <morghanphoenix> I think it's universe, might be multiverse though.
[08:29] <morghanphoenix> ARGH!
[08:29] <morghanphoenix> Doing too much at once with too little ram
[08:30] <kayey78> wer? i can find that settings??
[08:30] <morghanphoenix> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:30] <morghanphoenix> use that to get a source list
[08:30] <Linux_Galore> kayey78: I just told you
[08:31] <Linux_Galore> kayey78: start->system-adept  then view-> manage repo
[08:31] <Linux_Galore> kayey78: the lines are already in there you just need to right click and activate them
[08:32] <AWOSDev> morghanphoenix -
[08:32] <AWOSDev> !source-o-matic
[08:32] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:32] <AWOSDev> and
[08:33] <AWOSDev> !xmms
[08:33] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[08:33] <AWOSDev> hmm that didn't help
[08:33] <morghanphoenix> !amarok
[08:33] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[08:33] <morghanphoenix> ooh
[08:33] <morghanphoenix> didn't know about that little ditty.
[08:33] <AWOSDev> also
[08:33] <AWOSDev> !info xmmz
[08:33] <AWOSDev> !info xmms
[08:33] <ubotu> Package xmmz does not exist in any distro I know
[08:33] <ubotu> xmms: Versatile X audio player. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.10+cvs20050809-4ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1029 kB, installed size 7256 kB
[08:34] <AWOSDev> component main
[08:34] <AWOSDev> ...
[08:34] <morghanphoenix> you see the url I sent you?
[08:34] <AWOSDev> Yes
[08:34] <AWOSDev> Konqueror konqed out on me though ;P
[08:34] <morghanphoenix> that's where I volunteer.
[08:35] <morghanphoenix> Ah, I use oprea
[08:35] <morghanphoenix> Konqueror konqued out on me a lot.
[08:36] <morghanphoenix> I'd use lynx if it'd work right
[08:36] <deeo> i've been having a strange experience with WoW and Wine.  i'm using dapper, and i've dried both the repository ATI drivers and the ATI current ones (8.29.x).  I've tried Wine CVS also, with the same result.  Basically, no problems at all.  I login, start running around, and about 5 seconds into that my system locks solid, I can't even ping my PC.  I even grabbed a new motherboard, but same problem
[08:36] <morghanphoenix> who needs pictures
[08:38] <kayey78> administration says the administration directory is lock??
[08:38] <AWOSDev> or just use w3m with image support
[08:39] <morghanphoenix> is there a disrto comparison channel?
[08:40] <osiris> anyone recomend a pdf reader ?
[08:40] <AWOSDev> Hmm...don't think so :P
[08:40] <AWOSDev> osiris, Adobe Acrobat?
[08:40] <osiris> other than that
[08:40] <kayey78> waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa??
[08:40] <osiris> come on
[08:40] <AWOSDev> sudo apt-get install acroread
[08:41] <kayey78> anyone help me
[08:41] <AWOSDev> !pdf
[08:41] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[08:41] <AWOSDev> !info evince
[08:41] <ubotu> evince: Document (postscript, pdf) viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 676 kB, installed size 3176 kB
[08:41] <AWOSDev> !info kpdf
[08:41] <ubotu> kpdf: PDF viewer for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 307 kB, installed size 984 kB
[08:41] <AWOSDev> kayey78, does that help?
[08:41] <kayey78> its still says couldnt find package xmms?
[08:42] <morghanphoenix> Have you tried automatix kayey?
[08:43] <morghanphoenix> It gives you the newest version of amaroK and the codecs.
[08:43] <morghanphoenix> !automatix
[08:43] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[08:43] <kayey78> i cant install anthything yet..
[08:43] <kayey78> i need to set the universe or the repositor enable
[08:44] <kayey78> but i think ive already did..
[08:44] <morghanphoenix> the web page give really easy step-by-step instructions for adding the automatix repo and setting it up on x/k/ubuntu.
[08:48] <AWOSDev> What's the best way to convince my ISP to upgrade their OS?
[08:48] <arunkale> threaten them
[08:48] <arunkale> :p
[08:48] <AWOSDev> They're running FreeBSD 4.11
[08:48] <flaccid> get out missiles
[08:49] <AWOSDev> and 6.2 is about to come out
[08:49] <flaccid> thats alright
[08:49] <flaccid> whats the issue
[08:49] <totall_6_7> lol
[08:49] <AWOSDev> security
[08:49] <flaccid> if it aint broke why fix it
[08:49] <AWOSDev> they're also still using Apache 1.3
[08:49] <flaccid> thats ok
[08:49] <flaccid> you need to show the holes to proove its needed
[08:49] <morghanphoenix> Huh, my ISP contracts with microsoft.
[08:49] <arunkale> how do i set up my monitor to use 32-bit colour in place of 16-bit
[08:49] <AWOSDev> morghanphoenix, that's scary :)
[08:50] <morghanphoenix> Yeah, lots of nice bonuses that I won't ever use.
[08:51] <morghanphoenix> Qwest is as scarry as microsoft.
[08:51] <morghanphoenix> So scary I was shaking so bad I hit the r key twice
[08:52] <morghanphoenix> lol
[08:52] <AWOSDev> :P
[08:52] <AWOSDev> Ew Qwest
[08:52] <AWOSDev> that's who I'm gonna use after I move
[08:52] <AWOSDev> Great, my ISP will be hacked
[08:52] <AWOSDev> good thing I'm running FreeBSD :P
[08:52] <AWOSDev> It's not good when the users are more secure than the ISP
[08:52] <morghanphoenix> It's a choice of Qwest or SpeakEasy
[08:53] <arunkale> how do i set up my monitor to use 32-bit colour in place of 16-bit
[08:53] <AWOSDev> arunkale, IDK
[08:53] <morghanphoenix> Speakeasy costs more for the same speed, so I got qwest even though they've raised my bill twice on me in two months.
[08:53] <AWOSDev> I looked under System Settings
[08:54] <morghanphoenix> I figure when they start costing as much as speakeasy I'm switching.
[08:55] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: please use #kubuntu-offtopic for non-kubuntu-support discussion. thanks.
[09:01] <nacho_> hola?
[09:02] <AWOSDev> nacho_, Espanol?
[09:02] <nacho_> argentino
[09:02] <nacho_> me podrias ayudar??
[09:02] <AWOSDev> !ar
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:02] <AWOSDev> !es
[09:02] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:02] <nacho_> wait
[09:03] <AWOSDev> anybody know the two letter ISO code for Argentina?
[09:03] <nacho_> wait
[09:04] <nacho_> I need some help only because i'm finding trouble on compiling any kind of program
[09:04] <fdoving> AWOSDev: ar?
[09:04] <morghanphoenix> !ag
[09:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ag - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:04] <morghanphoenix> nope
[09:04] <nacho_> just becouse I don't know how
[09:04] <totall_6_7> AWOSDev:
[09:04] <totall_6_7> try
[09:04] <totall_6_7> http://www.oanda.com/products/fxlookup/
[09:05] <AWOSDev> nacho_, try the build-essential package
[09:05] <AWOSDev> !info build-essential
[09:05] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[09:05] <morghanphoenix> save
[09:05] <morghanphoenix> quit
[09:05] <morghanphoenix> oops
[09:05] <morghanphoenix> sorry, used to MUDs
[09:05] <morghanphoenix> bye all
[09:06] <PyroMithrandir> anyone know how to scroll on a screen with a virtual resolution without the mouse? (Like, how you go to the edge of the screen with the mouse, and it moves to show more... only without the mouse)
[09:06] <AWOSDev> Goodbye!
[09:06] <unix_infidel> anyone know of any websites that show case websites that have decent designs, web layouts, css etc etc geared towards business?
[09:06] <AWOSDev> Where do I download the Crystal Window Decoration?
[09:07] <nacho_> well, perhaps you know any utility that can help me to do it from now on
[09:07] <AWOSDev> nacho_
[09:07] <AWOSDev> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:08] <nacho_> ok
[09:08] <totall_6_7> AWOSDev: did that help at all?
[09:09] <AWOSDev> totall_6_7 No I was looking for the two letter country code not the currency code
[09:09] <AWOSDev> but it was for nacho_ because I didn't think he spoke English
[09:09] <AWOSDev> he does
[09:09] <totall_6_7> AWOSDev: or did you want the TLD for Argentina?
[09:09] <AWOSDev> so nvm :)
[09:09] <totall_6_7> ok np
[09:10] <AWOSDev> totall_6_7 that will come in handy when my startup starts dealing with other countries though :P
[09:10] <AWOSDev> so thank you
[09:10] <totall_6_7> np
[09:10] <AWOSDev> Well it's 3am here
[09:10] <AWOSDev> bed
[09:10] <AWOSDev> G'night all!
[09:10] <totall_6_7> sleep well AWOSDev
[09:10] <unix_infidel> anyone?
[09:10] <AWOSDev> thanks totall_6_7
[09:11] <nacho_> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[09:11] <nacho_> what should I do??
[09:13] <nacho_> should I do that??
[09:15] <PyroMithrandir> yes, nacho, do that
[09:15] <nacho_> great
[09:15] <nacho_> so.. what does this build essential do?
[09:16] <nacho_> how does it work? any idea??
[09:17] <Linux_Galore> nacho_: sometimes when installed go wrong or interrupted things are not tidied up or install scripts are not run, that just fixes all that
[09:18] <PyroMithrandir> build-essential gives you the stuff that is essential to compile (build) programs, iirc
[09:18] <Linux_Galore> (wasnt talking about build)
[09:18] <PyroMithrandir> (right, I know, but he was ;) )
[09:19] <nacho_> so when i do ./configure It works
[09:19] <Linux_Galore> nacho_: no
[09:19] <nacho_> oh
[09:20] <Linux_Galore> nacho_: that checks your system and creates a make script to compile the source code to be installed on your system
[09:20] <Linux_Galore> nacho_: there are three stages
[09:20] <nacho_> go on
[09:21] <Linux_Galore> nacho_: first step is ./configure  this just checks to make sure all the libs and components are there for you to build the code and also checks to make sure the paths are setup in the make script for the libs
[09:21] <Linux_Galore> nacho_: second step: well if that works then you just run make  that will compile the code
[09:22] <PyroMithrandir> if you are asking if having build-essential makes ./configure work, then yes, more or less that should be true
[09:22] <Linux_Galore> nacho_: third step is installing the code, usually sudo make install
[09:22] <fdoving> this is good: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/softinstall.html
[09:22] <fdoving> i also recommend ubunut and debian users to use 'checkinstall' instead of 'make install'
[09:22] <fdoving> !checkinstall
[09:22] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page.
[09:23] <PyroMithrandir> alright, guys, I'm calling it a night
[09:23] <nacho_> ok.. when i do the ./configure thing and it allways talls me that "checking for working makeinfo... missing"
[09:23] <fdoving> nite pyromithrandir.
[09:24] <Linux_Galore> nacho_: yeah for a debian based system checkinstall  would be better than running "make install"
[09:24] <Linux_Galore> nacho_: for the third step
[09:24] <nagyv> Hello! I am saving a webcam's video with vlc, but it is very flickering. What should I set up differently?
[09:24] <nacho_> ok but im still on the first one
[09:25] <Linux_Galore> nacho_: means you are missing it
[09:25] <nacho_> so?
[09:25] <Linux_Galore> is there s simple way to getting *ubuntu to install the base dev tools like gcc g++ etc
[09:25] <Linux_Galore> nacho_: I just install all the dev stuff manually
[09:26] <nacho_> whoth adept???
[09:26] <nacho_> with adept?
[09:26] <Linux_Galore> nacho_: yes adept
[09:26] <nacho_> great
[09:26] <nacho_> I'll do that and then if i find some truble i come back
[09:27] <fdoving> Linux_Galore: that's what build-essential is for.
[09:27] <nagyv> Linux_Galore: apt-get install build-essentials
[09:27] <fdoving> nagyv: that's build-essential without the s at the end :)
[09:27] <fdoving> it's ok :)
[09:28] <Linux_Galore> nacho_: run sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:28] <nacho_> ok
[09:28] <Linux_Galore> nacho_: that should install all the dev tools
[09:29] <nagyv> how can I put (at boot or kde login time) ~/bin to PATH?
[09:29] <fdoving> nagyv: make ~/bin
[09:29] <fdoving> then it'll be done automatically. iirc.
[09:29] <fdoving> if you use bash i tink it will.
[09:30] <nagyv> fdoving: make: Nothing to be done for `/home/nagyv/bin'.
[09:30] <Linux_Galore> nagyv:  mkdir ~/bin
[09:31] <fdoving> nagyv: do as linux_galore says. mkdir, 'make' is for building. i didn't give the command :)
[09:32] <nagyv> Linux_Galore: actually I have the bin directory, but it seems not included into the PATH
[09:32] <fdoving> nagyv: run 'echo $PATH'
[09:32] <Linux_Galore> nagyv: look at step 7 on this page -> http://linux.blogweb.de/categories/21-Ubuntu-MOTU
[09:33] <nacho_> still cant do it
[09:33] <Linux_Galore> nacho_: what does is say is missing
[09:33] <nacho_> when it checks de makefile
[09:34] <Linux_Galore> nacho_: you have to run ./configure first
[09:34] <Linux_Galore> nacho_: if ./configure fails there will be no make file
[09:34] <Linux_Galore> nacho_: ./configure tells you why it failed
[09:35] <nacho_> yes when I do ./configure it tells me in some point that checking for working makeinfo... missing
[09:35] <Linux_Galore> nacho_: so you ran the command I gave you
[09:35] <nacho_> yes
[09:35] <Linux_Galore> nacho_: it should have installed a whole pile of stuff
[09:36] <nacho_> I install everithing and when it gets to de nonfree-flashplayer it returns an error code 1
[09:36] <office> l
[09:36] <Linux_Galore> nacho_: I didnt ask that
[09:37] <nacho_> wait
[09:37] <nacho_> so then I do the ./confiigure and at the end it tells me "configure: error: Gl library was not found"
[09:38] <Linux_Galore> nacho_: yes it is missing something
[09:38] <Linux_Galore> nacho_: look it up in adept
[09:39] <TheGateKeeper> anyone use voice over ip?
[09:39] <nagyv> Linux_Galore: thx! I didn't had a .bash_profile file, but I put it back from the backups
[09:39] <morghanphoenix> has anyone else had problems with the flash player.
[09:39] <nagyv> TheGateKeeper: wengophone, gizmo, Skype and a dozen of SIP's
[09:40] <nacho_> should i look for it like Gl lib?
[09:40] <Linux_Galore> nacho_: I suspect its looking for opengl libs
[09:40] <TheGateKeeper> nagyv: I have installed ekiga but it won't connect to the remote host
[09:40] <nacho_> ok
[09:41] <nagyv> TheGateKeeper: did you set up your account properly? (sorry, but I don't know ekiga)
[09:42] <nagyv> TheGateKeeper: but because ekiga is a GTK/Gnome application, you can try to ask at the #ubuntu channel too
[09:42] <TheGateKeeper> nagyv: well I got it to finally accept my ekiga account
[09:42] <morghanphoenix> Ekiga gave me problems because of port forwarding with my firewall
[09:44] <TheGateKeeper> nagyv: I have also installed teamspeak which seems to work except I can't use get anyone to hear me, I can hear them
[09:44] <TheGateKeeper> morghanphoenix: what do you use?
[09:44] <morghanphoenix> nothing, I gave up and stuck to my cell phone.
[09:44] <nacho_> i will install every thing related to gl on the sujecto dev
[09:44] <nacho_> it's that ok?
[09:45] <morghanphoenix> but it was port forwarding that was giving me problems.
[09:45] <nagyv> TheGateKeeper: I am using Skype and wengophone. Wengophone works well with webcam too. I could never get any of my friends to use Netmeeting on their side. :(
[09:46] <morghanphoenix> I had skype before I formatted my windows hard drive, haven't tried it in linux yet.
[09:46] <Linux_Galore> nagyv: always try gizmoproject
[09:46] <Linux_Galore> morghanphoenix: works fine
[09:46] <nagyv> Linux_Galore: no webcam support
[09:47] <nagyv> morghanphoenix: but I would recommend you the beta version, because of sound problems with the old one
[09:47] <nacho_> Linux_Galore: should I install every thing related to gl on dev ???
[09:47] <morghanphoenix> I need to get a webcam, gods know my winTV card isn't working for anything else yet.
[09:47] <TheGateKeeper> nagyv: if you use wengophone can you talk to people using ekiga?
[09:48] <morghanphoenix> I tried installing MythTV but kept getting driver problems
[09:49] <nagyv> TheGateKeeper: I have never tried, but according to its features: yes
[09:49] <TheGateKeeper> nagyv: if I installed would you help me try to configure it?
[09:50] <Linux_Galore> nacho_: no just the base stuff
[09:50] <Linux_Galore> nagyv: http://gyachi.sourceforge.net/index.shtml
[09:50] <nagyv> TheGateKeeper: if you help me to configure SIP in general, then I would be happy to help you :)
[09:50] <Linux_Galore> nagyv: yahoo webcam and chat client for Linux
[09:50] <TheGateKeeper> nagyv: ok
[09:52] <nagyv> Linux_Galore: it's nice! :) I will try it out now! (hmm, do I have any yahoo friends?)
[09:52] <TheGateKeeper> nagyv: I managed to connect to stun from this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145047&page=2
[09:52] <unix_infidel> http://bmsbuildingservices.com/_img/division_retail_h2_bg.jpg
[09:53] <unix_infidel> anyone know how i can accomplish this in photoshop or gimp?
[09:53] <unix_infidel> this is probably really simple :)
[09:54] <nagyv> TheGateKeeper: as I know you use wengophone only with its own SIP address, that comes with the registration. My problem is that I don't know how to make SIP calls with it to a different SIP "network".
[09:55] <Linux_Galore> nagyv: its like email   sip:joe.smith@somewhere.net
[09:55] <TheGateKeeper> nagyv: like Linux_Galore says ^^^
[09:56] <flaccid> how can i upgrade linux-restricted-modules-686           2.6.15.25             to 2.6.15.27 ?
[09:57] <TheGateKeeper> nagyv: for me you would dial sip:TheGatekeeper@ekiga.net
[09:57] <TheGateKeeper> not that there is much point at the moment as things arn't working lol
[09:57] <Linux_Galore> flaccid: should automatically do it, did for me
[09:57] <flaccid> i don't think there is a .27
[09:58] <Linux_Galore> flaccid: check in adept
[09:59] <flaccid> is not
[10:00] <Linux_Galore> let me check my i686 rig
[10:01] <Linux_Galore> yeah my i686 machine has 2.6.27
[10:01] <flaccid> serious
[10:01] <flaccid> wtf
[10:01] <Linux_Galore> flaccid: yes
[10:02] <flaccid> can find link to package?
[10:02] <Linux_Galore> sorry 2.6.15-27 sorry
[10:02] <Linux_Galore> 27 is the latest path number on dapper
[10:02] <Linux_Galore> patch*
[10:03] <Linux_Galore> flaccid: type uname -a  in a term
[10:04] <Linux_Galore> you should see something like 2.6.15-27-686
[10:05] <flaccid> correct
[10:05] <Linux_Galore> flaccid: thats the latest
[10:06] <Linux_Galore> for dapper anyway
[10:06] <flaccid> yes.. and i can't get the latest linux-restricted-modules-686 package
[10:06] <Linux_Galore> flaccid: I had the same problem
[10:07] <Linux_Galore> flaccid: i removed some dead wood packages and it seemed to fix itself
[10:07] <Linux_Galore> flaccid: search on the word   kernel  look at what is installed
[10:10] <flaccid> hmm
[10:11] <Linux_Galore> flaccid: all I have is linux-headers-2.6.15-27-686 and linux-image-2.6.15-27-686
[10:12] <Linux_Galore> flaccid: works fine
[10:12] <flaccid> yes i'm talking about this package  linux-restricted-modules-686
[10:12] <Linux_Galore> I have the kernel-sourced-2.6.15 package installed for the nvidia installer to work and thats about it
[10:12] <Linux_Galore> sources*
[10:13] <Linux_Galore> flaccid: there is no package of that name
[10:14] <flaccid> dw :)
[10:15] <flaccid> i got some more to try :)
[10:15] <flaccid> bbs
[10:17] <kyaneos> hi
[10:17] <kyaneos> i have a problem
[10:17] <kyaneos> everytime i start kde, kpersonalizer appears
[10:21] <Linux_Galore> kyaneos: you have to remove the kpersonalizerrc file under ./kde/share/config/  from memory
[10:21] <Linux_Galore> kyaneos: or edit it and remove change the startup line to false
[10:21] <kyaneos> Linux_Galore: it is removed
[10:22] <Linux_Galore> kyaneos: edit it then and set it to false
[10:22] <kyaneos> Linux_Galore: it does not exist
[10:22] <arunkale> in firefox, in some pages light grey looks pink to me
[10:22] <Linux_Galore> kyaneos: it has to exist, its created when it starts
[10:22] <arunkale> in konqueror it looks like that all the time
[10:23] <Linux_Galore> arunkale: you can adjust that in kcontrol
[10:23] <kyaneos> Linux_Galore: it has not been created
[10:23] <arunkale> Linux_Galore: How do I do that?
[10:23] <arunkale> and what do I adjust
[10:24] <Linux_Galore> arunkale: in its the hardware section in kcontrol
[10:24] <Linux_Galore> arunkale: its pretty obvious how it works
[10:24] <Linux_Galore> anyway Im out for a while
[10:25] <arunkale> I dont know much about gamma settings and the like
[10:25] <Linux_Galore> hmm
[10:25] <Linux_Galore> arunkale: you dont need to know anything just move the slider till grey looks like grey not pink
[10:25] <nagyv> TheGateKeeper: could you proceed with some SIP?
[10:26] <arunkale> which slider? there are 4 there
[10:27] <Linux_Galore> pick one and learn, you can always click on the default to go back to the normal settings
[10:27] <arunkale> i dont see any change, man.. i'm moving it
[10:29] <flaccid> holy shizim
[10:29] <flaccid> i fixed it
[10:29] <flaccid> and the driver is shit loads faster
[10:29] <flaccid> holy crap
[10:30] <arunkale> Linux_Galore: what change exactly in those squares am i supposed to look for
[10:30] <flaccid> w0a i can't believe this speed difference
[10:31] <fdoving> !language > flaccid
[10:31] <flaccid> what language are you referring to fdoving?
[10:36] <enrico__> ciaooooooooooo
[10:36] <enrico__> W kubuntu
[10:36] <enrico__> c' qualcuno???
[10:37] <nagyv> enrico__: yes
[10:37] <abattoir> !it
[10:37] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:37] <abattoir> enrico__: ^^^^
[10:37] <enrico__> sorry
[10:38] <enrico__> sigh
[10:38] <abattoir> enrico__: no problem, i was only trying to help you :)
[10:38] <TheGateKeeper> nagyv: how do you mean? things aren't working on my PC
[10:39] <enrico__> thanks
[10:39] <nagyv> TheGateKeeper: I think you are going to try wengophone, or something.
[10:39] <nagyv> I thought, sorry :)
[10:40] <TheGateKeeper> nagyv: found this to test my mic, but I can't hear anything :-( ---> arecord -f cd -D hw:0,0 -d 20 test.wav
[10:40] <TheGateKeeper> nagyv: using aplay to play it back
[10:42] <arunkale> is KOffice good?
[10:42] <abattoir> arunkale: depends on your needs
[10:43] <arunkale> Word processor, spreadsheet
[10:44] <abattoir> arunkale: yes, obviously... but if you use Open Document Formats, it works very well(for me), i wouldnt say that for compatibility with Microsoft Office files...
[10:44] <linux__alien> is Kubuntu and Ubuntu really same except for the KDE and Gnome differences?
[10:44] <arunkale> okay..
[10:44] <abattoir> btw, its also lighter, faster (and prettier :P) than Open Office.org...
[10:44] <abattoir> linux__alien: yes...
[10:44] <arunkale> open office seems to be rendering fonts in it's own way
[10:45] <morghanphoenix> but open office works perfectly when you need to take your files with you to the xp systems at school
[10:45] <abattoir> arunkale: do you have msttcorefonts installed?
[10:45] <arunkale> yeah
[10:45] <abattoir> morghanphoenix: exactly, that won't be the case w/ Koffice, you might lose lots of formatting
[10:45] <arunkale> all my web pages look really good.. i got my fonts to render in the same way os x renders fonts
[10:45] <arunkale> but open office is rendering fonts like Windows does
[10:46] <linux__alien> so that means i can install Kubuntu from Ubuntu right?
[10:46] <morghanphoenix> That's why I stick to open office, despite the fact that it's pathetically slow compared to other programs
[10:46] <morghanphoenix> yeah
[10:46] <morghanphoenix> that's what I did
[10:46] <abattoir> linux__alien: yes, 'kubuntu-desktop' is the metapackage to do that...
[10:46] <nagyv> TheGateKeeper: and you didn't get any errors?
[10:46] <morghanphoenix> I also installed xubuntu from ubuntu
[10:46] <linux__alien> abattoir, is Kubuntu buggier because of KDE ? are there any issues really ?
[10:47] <abattoir> linux__alien: of course not :P
[10:47] <TheGateKeeper> nagyv: nope just the sound of silence
[10:47] <abattoir> linux__alien: there are always bugs..., but most of them are fixed....:)
[10:47] <nagyv> is your mic turned on? I mean in the mixer
[10:47] <morghanphoenix> only problems I've had with kde is adept deciding to log up so I had to run dpkg manually.
[10:47] <abattoir> linux__alien: i meant, there are always bugs in any software....
[10:48] <morghanphoenix> Aside from that KDE mas been amazingly bug free.
[10:48] <TheGateKeeper> nagyv: used arecord to record a 10 wav file then aplay to play it back
[10:48] <abattoir> morghanphoenix: lock up, you mean?
[10:48] <abattoir> !adept crash fix
[10:48] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this command in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock'
[10:48] <abattoir> morghanphoenix: ^^^ might help you
[10:48] <linux__alien> i am using Ubuntu and now currently installing Kubuntu-Desktop
[10:48] <linux__alien> from Ubuntu
[10:49] <morghanphoenix> it's fixed now, but every time I try to upgrade the flash player it locks up again, and annoyingly enough with no error messages.
[10:49] <nagyv> TheGateKeeper: yes, I understood this :), but isn't it possible that your mic is muted somehow?
[10:49] <linux__alien> has anyone seen this error before ? i am unable to get flash working
[10:49] <linux__alien> sudo update-flashplugin
[10:49] <linux__alien> automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes
[10:49] <linux__alien> should i change something?
[10:49] <abattoir> morghanphoenix: adept doesnt handle interactivity(in a console), so for packages like flash, java etc., where you explicitly need to agree to a licence, its always better to use the cli.
[10:50] <nagyv> morghanphoenix: did you look at Show Details? in my case it was asking to let him download the new packages
[10:50] <abattoir> linux__alien: do you have dapper-backports/dapper-updates enabled?
[10:50] <abattoir> (assuming you are on dapper)
[10:50] <linux__alien> backports is not enabled
[10:50] <morghanphoenix> yup, and I agreed, I keep my terminal big enough to render the dialogs.
[10:51] <abattoir> linux__alien: i think adobe updated the flashplayer, and hence the link was broken... you might need to enable it to get the newer package...
[10:51] <abattoir> linux__alien: or you could directly download the new package from adobe
[10:51] <TheGateKeeper> nagyv: back in a couple of mins...
[10:51] <linux__alien> abattoir, can you give me the link please for the new package ?
[10:52] <morghanphoenix> I just got a new sources list so hopefully everything goes okay this time.
[10:52] <abattoir> linux__alien: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[10:52] <morghanphoenix> but now there's 210 packages to be updated.
[10:54] <picsou> hello
[10:54] <morghanphoenix> 'ello
[10:57] <linux__alien> Have you guys installed ubuntu and then installed Kubuntu-Desktop Package or have you installed Kubuntu itself ?
[10:57] <morghanphoenix> I installed ubuntu
[10:57] <abattoir> I installed kubuntu directly....
[10:57] <morghanphoenix> then added x/kubuntu
[10:57] <insanekane> kubuntu directly here
[10:58] <linux__alien> but they both are same right? or will there be any integration issues when you install Ubuntu and then install Kubuntu-Desktop?
[10:58] <morghanphoenix> none that I've seen
[10:58] <morghanphoenix> having problems with xubuntu, but kubuntu's working great
[10:59] <morghanphoenix> And I'm a total newbie
[10:59] <rod> hi, this is nothing to do with kubuntu, i'm just asking a favour, could someone try http://218.209.111.111/ and tell me if you can access it?  thanks so much!
[11:00] <morghanphoenix> 2 weeks since I cussed out the microsoft support department and formatted my hard drive.
[11:00] <picsou> Do exist a ubuntu, version with fluxbox ?
[11:00] <rod> and how has the move been?
[11:00] <icheyne> If I run a CLI application and press Ctrl-Z to exit, and then do a "top" command, I can see the original application still running. How can I exit without leaving it running?
[11:00] <morghanphoenix> great
[11:01] <morghanphoenix> took me a few hours to get my dvds and mp3s to play.
[11:01] <rod> cool, not too many problems?  anything you miss about windows?
[11:01] <morghanphoenix> a few days to figure out how to install deb packages right
[11:01] <morghanphoenix> Ultima Online!
[11:01] <morghanphoenix> The only thing I miss
[11:01] <TheGateKeeper> nagyv: well the irritating thing is I have gone into alsamixer & turned everything on, systems work fine under windows, so don't know why linux is being such an arse
[11:02] <rod> yes.... games...  i know things are getting better, but there's still very little on linux
[11:02] <nagyv> TheGateKeeper: no idea
[11:02] <morghanphoenix> Oh, and I haven't found a program yet to convert the bitrates of my mp3s
[11:02] <icheyne> rod try Temulous
[11:02] <rod> lame!
[11:02] <morghanphoenix> I need to drop the 256 & 320s down to 128
[11:02] <TheGateKeeper> nagyv: that makes 2 or us :-)
[11:02] <icheyne> morghanphoenix: I found something the other day
[11:02] <icheyne> I'll look hang on
[11:02] <morghanphoenix> please don't say mBox
[11:02] <rod> Temulous?
[11:03] <icheyne> morganphoenix: soundKonverter
[11:03] <icheyne> rod: yes
[11:03] <morghanphoenix> That does bitrate conversions?
[11:03] <icheyne> it's a fps
[11:03] <icheyne> with spiders against humans
[11:03] <icheyne> uses the quake 3 engine
[11:03] <icheyne> morghanphoenix: yes
[11:03] <morghanphoenix> ARGH!
[11:03] <icheyne> morghanphoenix: it's not a good idea to transcode though
[11:04] <icheyne> if you have the time, it's better to rerip the CDs
[11:04] <icheyne> as you lose a lot of audio quality
[11:04] <morghanphoenix> I have that installed, been using it for ogg & wma to mp3 conversions
[11:04] <rod> oh cool!
[11:04] <icheyne> morghanphoenix: oh right well it works well for dropping bitrates too
[11:04] <rod> but...  i run Xgl, will it work ok with that?  i thought 3d acceleration din't work under xgl?
[11:04] <icheyne> rod: it is cool
[11:05] <icheyne> rod: sorry I have avoided XGL
[11:05] <morghanphoenix> I have about 40 gigs of music that took up 10 last time I transfered them to my PC.
[11:05] <icheyne> rod: I like to keep my sanity intact!
[11:05] <rod> icheyne: xgl is beautiful, and makes things so much nicer to use!
[11:05] <morghanphoenix> Turns out I was encoding at a variable bitrate that was way too high, I don't need anything over 128.
[11:05] <icheyne> rod: You might be right - I'm just short on patience.
[11:06] <sybux> Hi, I'm looking for a linux application to replace my Microsoft Exchange server
[11:06] <icheyne> I tried a demo disk of it and it was cool
[11:06] <icheyne> ok guys cya later
[11:06] <icheyne> :)
[11:09] <nagyv> sybux: AFAIK there is no perfect alternative, but there are several things. I hav mainly heard of these 2: zimbra, open-Xchange
[11:10] <sybux> nagyv: thx I'll check for them
[11:11] <sybux> or another alternative : I'm using actualy postfix for mail. Which other application can I use to store calendar and contact. I also want to acces them via internet
[11:12] <nagyv> sybux: zimbra
[11:12] <sybux> okay
[11:14] <morghanphoenix> what do you mean about the loss of audio quality?
[11:16] <vega-> vvatsa: nobody cares
[11:16] <main2> indeed vega
[11:16] <abattoir> vvatsa: i think you were already warned(and kicked) once before, pleae remove that away message
[11:16] <main2> !polite
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about polite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:16] <main2> !friendly
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about friendly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <abattoir> main2: for me? :P
[11:17] <main2> ubotu: **** my ****
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about my **** - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <main2> nahh, just in general =)
[11:17] <morghanphoenix> lol
[11:17] <abattoir> !away
[11:17] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[11:18] <abattoir> main2: ^^^^ that might be more appropriate ;)
[11:20] <morghanphoenix> is there a channel that deals with grub?
[11:20] <fdoving> #grub maybe?
[11:23] <linux__alien> Kubuntu-Desktop is being installed i am just waiting to log on to do that
[11:24] <haffe> Is there any kind of approximation when hibernate will be in the default ubuntu kernel?
[11:26] <abattoir> !away > vvatsa
[11:26] <host-one__> hi
[11:26] <octan> !paste
[11:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:27] <host-one__> wich program open the .sub file?
[11:27] <octan> hello people
[11:27] <abattoir> host-one__: i think those are subtitle files, i'd expect kaffeine to open them along w/ the video and give you the choice of using the subtitle
[11:28] <octan> can someone help me a bit..
[11:28] <octan> im trying to get a X app to work with ssh
[11:28] <octan> i mean i have ssh into my server and want to start a X app
[11:28] <octan> but it doesnt start
[11:29] <octan> any one know how this works
[11:29] <haffe> X-forwarding?
[11:29] <octan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24629
[11:29] <octan> take a look pls
[11:29] <vincenzo> Salve c' qualche Italiano
[11:30] <octan> gedit hangs for a while
[11:30] <octan> then i get this error
[11:30] <octan> (gedit:31178): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[11:31] <morghanphoenix> Suggestions on a KDE program to deit partitions?
[11:31] <morghanphoenix> 8edit
[11:31] <haffe> kpartet?
[11:32] <octan> haffe got any ideas why it doesnt work?
[11:32] <haffe> None whatsoever.
[11:32] <octan> :(
[11:32] <haffe> Have you enabled X-forwarding?
[11:32] <octan> you didnt take a look did you
[11:32] <octan> take a look at my paste
[11:34] <host-one__> abattoir: I don't think so, this .sub file is too big(30.7MB) a subtitle file is little(3MB max 5MB)
[11:34] <ge2x> i just installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu and i want to remove all the gnome apps how to do that?
[11:34] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: qtparted
[11:35] <morghanphoenix> thanks
[11:35] <ge2x> i think i need to remove gtk or something - please help me out
[11:37] <ge2x> hey how to remove gtk?
[11:37] <fdoving> ge2x: sudo apt-get -s remove libgnome2-0
[11:37] <fdoving> ge2x: that will simulate removal of gnome.
[11:37] <ge2x> thnx
[11:38] <vincenzo> lazarus - impossible rebuild in gtk2
[11:38] <fdoving> ge2x: run it, and take notes on what applications you want to keep. Then write down the package names. and run the same command without the -s, that will actually remove the stuff. Then run 'sudo apt-get install <list of packages from your note>'
[11:39] <ge2x> fdoving it didnt remove the gnome apps from the k menu
[11:39] <ge2x> ohhh
[11:39] <fdoving> ge2x: it just simulates.
[11:39] <fdoving> ge2x: it will probably remove programs you want to keep, so you'll have to re-install them after getting rid of gnome.
[11:40] <ge2x> i get the point ;D thnx
[11:40] <arunkale> too bad i cant get xgl
[11:43] <nagyv> arunkale: me neither :(, too bad for two :)
[11:43] <arunkale> nagyv: why cant u get it
[11:43] <nagyv> arunkale: because of an ATI Mobility Radeon 9600
[11:44] <arunkale> ah
[11:44] <arunkale> i have an integrated video card
[11:45] <ge2x> where can i get xorg sdk release
[11:45] <ge2x> ?
[11:45] <linux__alien> I ve installed Kubuntu-Desktop from Ubuntu but i am unable to play mp3s at all . In Gnome i am able to play everything but using amarok i am unable to play it
[11:46] <abattoir> linux__alien: you have multiverse enabled?
[11:46] <abattoir> or did you have it enabled under Gnome?
[11:46] <linux__alien> yes i ve it enabled
[11:47] <abattoir> linux__alien: good, now install libxine-extracodecs... either through adept, or through apt-get
[11:47] <abattoir> !mp3
[11:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:47] <abattoir> linux__alien: the first link is also helpful(if you run into trouble w/ other restricted formats)
[11:50] <Super_Cat_Frog> hi - im having to rebuild the nvidia drivers every boot - any ideas?
[11:51] <Vegeta^> Why is it that I almost always has to disable and re-enable my network interface before it will work (that is I can go online), after a computer reboot?
[11:53] <morghanphoenix> kakarot sabotaged your computer?
[11:54] <TheGateKeeper> nagyv: well I have got my mic working :-)
[11:55] <Vegeta^> hahahaha :D
[11:56] <GeneralZod> Super_Cat_Frog:Are you certain that you don't just need to modprobe the nvidia module?
[11:56] <mart> hi.  I wonder if someone could paste the fonts section of their xorg.conf file, please?
[11:59] <GeneralZod> mart:This kind of thing? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24641
[12:00] <mart> GeneralZod: exactly that kind of thing. thanks :)
[12:00] <Super_Cat_Frog> GeneralZod: yes, tried that
[12:00] <GeneralZod> mart:You're welcome
[12:00] <linux__alien> My icons are quite big when i open it in Konqueror
[12:00] <linux__alien> what do i do
[12:00] <linux__alien> i ve reduced the size of my icons from the System Control Center but still it looks big
[12:00] <nagyv> TheGateKeeper: so now you have also a working SIP phone?
[12:00] <linux__alien> The icons on the Desktop look proper but when i open with Konqueror  it looks hugs
[12:00] <linux__alien> huge
[12:01] <GeneralZod> Super_Cat_Frog:That's odd.  I take it there's no errors when you modprobe it? Do you restart X after modprobing it?
[12:01] <arunkale> how do i view the number of words in a text file using kate?
[12:01] <Super_Cat_Frog> no, modprobe's fine
[12:01] <GeneralZod> Super_Cat_Frog:Hmmmm...dunno, then.  Sorry :/
[12:03] <GeneralZod> linux__alien:Have you changed them in Konqueror? View->Icon Size->...
[12:03] <zorglu_> q. when i do "ssh myotherhost top", ssh replies "TERM environment variable not set.", any idea how to fix that ?
[12:09] <main2> anyone succesfully built vlc 0.8.5?
[12:12] <nagyv> TheGateKeeper: what is your problem now that the mic works?
[12:13] <TheGateKeeper> nagyv: well I would have if ekiga could reach a remote ost
[12:13] <TheGateKeeper> nagyv: ekiga cannot connect to remote host
[12:14] <linux__alien> GeneralZod, yes changed it thanks
[12:15] <tmdx120> Im trying to reconfigure my wireless router (westell 327w) how do I set up wep?
[12:15] <TheGateKeeper> nagyv: looking here as it's reporting "Symmetric NAT" http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3&pos=0&faqpage=x161.html
[12:18] <linux__alien> I ve installed Kubuntu-Desktop but can i write my QT applications and compile it ? or should i install some separate packages ?
[12:19] <tmdx120> Hello.  Im trying to reconfigure my wireless router (westell 327w) how do I set up wep?
[12:19] <fdoving> linux__alien: you need more apps then.
[12:20] <linux__alien> fdoving, but when i do an apt-get update it does not show any updates with respect to KDE  ? why  is that? should i enable some repositories ?
[12:20] <fdoving> linux__alien: if you want to develop qt3 programs you need: libqt3-mt-dev, atleast.
[12:20] <fdoving> linux__alien: for qt4, you need: libqt4-dev atleast.
[12:21] <fdoving> linux__alien: there is also 'qt3-designer
[12:21] <fdoving>  and qt4-designer
[12:21] <fdoving> and qt3-assistant
[12:21] <morghanphoenix> how do I set my USB hard drive to always mount as sda1?
[12:21] <linux__alien> Thanks but if there are updates available in QT and KDE those updates are not being shown when i do an apt-get update so should i add separate repositories for KDE ?
[12:22] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: mount as /media/sda1?
[12:23] <fdoving> linux__alien: the default ones should do just fine. but you won't get bleeding edge software. You get security updates basically.
[12:23] <morghanphoenix> it automounts, and does it at random places, once it even mounted as the name of my hard drive, and when I remove it it still shows up in media despite the fact it's not there anymore.
[12:23] <fdoving> linux__alien: you can look at kubuntu.org for newer KDE packages iof you want.
[12:23] <nagyv> TheGateKeeper: sorry, but I am really not an ekiga expert. Are you sure that it's a nat problem? I have read somewhere that you have to give a different SIP proxy, because the free ekiga.net doesn't work properly.
[12:24] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: i strongly recommend reading this: http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
[12:24] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: it's really good and you learn alot.
[12:25] <morghanphoenix> thanks.
[12:25] <morghanphoenix> Ooh, and it's even all on the same page.
[12:26] <fdoving> have to go. visiting inlaws.
[12:26] <fdoving> bye.
[12:26] <TheGateKeeper> nagyv: you may well be right, I wish I knew what settings it wanted
[12:26] <XTorchedX> i want mozilla
[12:27] <XTorchedX> how do i install firefox
[12:27] <morghanphoenix> apt-get install firefox?
[12:27] <abattoir> yup, 'sudo apt-get install firefox'
[12:27] <abattoir> !info firefox
[12:27] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-ubuntu0.6.06 (dapper), package size 7739 kB, installed size 22928 kB
[12:28] <tux> or add/remove programs?
[12:28] <nagyv> fdoving: whoooo, there is a much simpler description in the Ubuntu User's Guide (or something similar) published by O'Reilly
[12:28] <morghanphoenix> Everyone should try opera
[12:28] <XTorchedX> yeah opera will do actually
[12:28] <linux__alien> fdoving, This is what i ve in sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24642
[12:28] <XTorchedX> sudo apt-get install opera?
[12:28] <linux__alien> is this Ok?
[12:28] <Apathy_86> why can't i close the error messages when azureus shows something like "cannot connect upn error"?
[12:29] <morghanphoenix> imho opera is as much better than firefox as firefox is better than ie
[12:29] <nagyv> TheGateKeeper: register a wengophone account, and then I will help you to set up ekiga. If it still won't work, then it can be a NAT problem.
[12:30] <frankm_> yes but firefox its beter
[12:30] <frankm_> *better
[12:32] <TheGateKeeper> ok I'll give it a try
[12:32] <morghanphoenix> !lynx
[12:32] <ubotu> Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK), Opera (Qt), Konqueror (KDE/Qt), Links (terminal-based). HTTP servers: apache2
[12:32] <linux__alien> fdoving, Is my Soures.list ok ?
[12:35] <josh_> other then easy sources.... where can i find a list of repos?
[12:36] <josh_> also... im using konqueror but gmail is asking for active x to be enabled... where is that located?
[12:37] <morghanphoenix> how do I use that paste thing so I don't flood the chanel?
[12:37] <josh_> !pastebin
[12:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:37] <mart> josh_: have you changed the browser identification?
[12:37] <luca_b> josh_: You need to change your User AGent for gmail
[12:37] <abattoir> linux__alien: i dont think he is here
[12:37] <luca_b> josh_: Konqueror works fine but Gmail thinks it doesn't
[12:37] <intelikey> eeek  eeek eeek  eeeky eeeky   i can't get on line.
[12:37] <mart> josh_: try setting it to safari.
[12:38] <abattoir> josh_: it really asks for 'ActiveX' ?? try changing the Browser ID to firefox
[12:38] <intelikey> i need some way to find out what module i need to modprobe to access my modem.   anyone got a clue-by-four  ?
[12:38] <abattoir> josh_: tools->Change Browser Identification...
[12:39] <intelikey> i get error  ttyS0 is busy.
[12:40] <morghanphoenix> okay, got it pasted, I get that every time I install or update anything.
[12:41] <josh_> nope... still asking for active x
[12:42] <morghanphoenix> any ideas what's going wrong with the flash player update?
[12:45] <luca_b> morghanphoenix: there is an error in the post-installation script
[12:45] <luca_b> morghanphoenix: you can either fix it or apt-get update, there is a new package
[12:45] <luca_b> morghanphoenix: if you handle command line, I can tell you where to fix it
[12:46] <morghanphoenix> yakuake is up
[12:47] <morghanphoenix> Konsole open
[12:47] <luca_b> morghanphoenix: sudo kate/vi/emacs/whatever /var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.postinst
[12:48] <luca_b> look for the line that says something like update-rc.d <something> multiuser
[12:48] <morghanphoenix> wtf?
[12:48] <morghanphoenix> I coppied it and it opened lynx
[12:49] <luca_b> morghanphoenix: only the path?
[12:49] <luca_b> morghanphoenix: I didn't put a single editor because I didn't know what you'd use
[12:49] <morghanphoenix> ah, my fault
[12:49] <mart> what's a sensible file system for a flash disk?
[12:50] <luca_b> morghanphoenix: in any case, just edit that file, look for a line that says update-rc.d followed by something then multiuser
[12:50] <morghanphoenix> I'm running on jolt at the moment.
[12:50] <luca_b> morghanphoenix: and replace "multiuser" with "defaults"
[12:50] <mart> oh, ext3, forgot about that.
[12:51] <main2> could adding the debian-sid repository to my sources.list give problems?
[12:51] <luca_b> main2: definitely
[12:51] <main2> (as in 'you shouldnt do that.....')
[12:51] <main2> luca_b: ahhh k.. i would like to use vlc from their repos
[12:52] <mart> main2: but you can normally get away with adding debian sid deb-src lines.
[12:52] <main2> because all available versions for dapper (0.8.4 && 0.85) are broken
[12:52] <morghanphoenix> replaced
[12:52] <mart> main2: and then building the packages you need from the debian source.
[12:53] <main2> mart: so after ive added the deb-src to my repost list, where do i continue?
[12:53] <main2> (i know how to install tarballs etc)
[12:53] <mart> apt-get update ;apt-get source vlc
[12:53] <main2> ok
[12:53] <morghanphoenix> Now what do I do? run it again?
[12:53] <XTorchedX> !mp3
[12:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:54] <Bropho> hello
[12:55] <Bropho> im bored out of my brain again
[12:55] <XTorchedX> hi
[12:55] <morghanphoenix> I wish my iPod would support free formats.
[12:55] <XTorchedX> dude, you logged onto irc as an astral projection?1?!
[12:55] <XTorchedX> or are you actually still in your brain
[12:55] <Bropho> what
[12:55] <XTorchedX> hi
[12:55] <Bropho> are u hi
[12:56] <XTorchedX> No, i'm XTorchedX
[12:56] <Bropho> ok then!?!?!
[12:56] <Bropho> ???????????/
[12:57] <Bropho> (!)
[12:57] <XTorchedX> hi
[12:57] <Bropho> !
[12:57] <mart> main2: there are quite a lot of dependencies for vlc...
[12:57] <Bropho> !Im bored
[12:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Im bored - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:58] <Bropho> !brains nore do i have any
[12:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brains nore do i have any - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:59] <Bropho> funny
[12:59] <morghanphoenix> !emacs
[12:59] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[12:59] <main2> mart: yeah there are...
[12:59] <Bropho> !sex
[12:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:00] <main2> can anyone kick that Bropho guy?
[01:00] <main2> !admins
[01:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about admins - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:00] <Bropho> what thats funny
[01:00] <Bropho> !
[01:00] <Bropho> !!
[01:00] <cango> help my adept dont run
[01:01] <cango> help my adept dont run
[01:01] <Bropho> !lfs
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <cango> !adept
[01:01] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[01:01] <Bropho> !linux from scracth
[01:02] <ubotu> linux: Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.25 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[01:02] <Bropho> !linux from scrach
[01:02] <Bropho> !linux from scratch
[01:02] <MenZa> There is no article.
[01:02] <Bropho> !love
[01:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about love - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <Bropho> !sucking but i know i do
[01:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sucking but i know i do - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:04] <morghanphoenix> !nano
[01:04] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[01:04] <luca_b> wooops
[01:04] <luca_b> went afk without telling anyone
[01:04] <luca_b> morghanphoenix: did the thing work with flash player?
[01:04] <morghanphoenix> thanks luca, it worked
[01:04] <main2> mart: any idea about what the url is for the repos.. ? (for SID)
[01:04] <luca_b> morghanphoenix: if you apt-get update you'll get another package that should have that fixed, I think
[01:05] <Bropho> !having sex because im a 40 yr old vergin
[01:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about having sex because im a 40 yr old vergin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:05] <cango> help me for adept
[01:05] <mart> main2: deb-src http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main
[01:05] <mart> er, that's a UK one.
[01:05] <main2> how can you do that so fast?
[01:05] <morghanphoenix> stop making fun of the poor bot
[01:05] <morghanphoenix> it's just doing it's job
[01:05] <mart> main2: the delights of copy and paste....
[01:05] <luca_b> the only debian package I ever used on Kubuntu is R
[01:05] <main2> im dutch mart, but a uk one is fine for this one time ....
[01:05] <Bropho> what its funny
[01:05] <main2> =)
[01:05] <cango> help me for adept
[01:05] <nagyv> cango: did you just made an update?
[01:06] <cango> nagyv: yeah
[01:06] <morghanphoenix> any suggestions as to a good tutourial for installing from source?
[01:06] <nagyv> cango: and you also tried to update flashplayer?
[01:06] <cango> nagyv: yeah
[01:06] <nagyv> morghanphoenix: the readme and install files in the source tarball
[01:07] <nagyv> cango: is it still running or you have killed the process?
[01:07] <Bropho> !Bropho being bored because i dont know what its like being stuck indoors on a wet day a bloody boring town with the stinkin population of about 600
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Bropho being bored because i dont know what its like being stuck indoors on a wet day a bloody boring town with the stinkin population of about 600 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:07] <cango> nagyv: yeah
[01:07] <morghanphoenix> Try running dkpg -a
[01:07] <morghanphoenix> that's what fixed it for me
[01:07] <morghanphoenix> my adpet didn't work earlier after doing the flash update
[01:08] <Bropho> !google
[01:08] <ubotu> google is a very popular search engine, http://www.google.com
[01:08] <Bropho> !fruit
[01:08] <ubotu> fruit: chess engine, to calculate chess moves. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1-2 (dapper), package size 457 kB, installed size 776 kB
[01:09] <morghanphoenix> !telnet
[01:09] <ubotu> telnet is not safe. Please use ssh instead. See !ssh
[01:09] <morghanphoenix> !ssh
[01:09] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[01:09] <main2> mart: i did what you said (also ran update) but i gets the package from the wrong place it seems
[01:09] <Bropho> !vegitables
[01:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vegitables - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:09] <main2> Moet 12,6MB aan bronarchieven ophalen.
[01:09] <main2> Ophalen:1 http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe vlc 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (tar)
[01:09] <morghanphoenix> ARGH!
[01:09] <mart> main2: how do you mean, the wrong place?
[01:09] <nagyv> cango: which one? running or killed?
[01:09] <main2> mart: Ophalen:1 http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe vlc << doesnt look like debian.. ?
[01:09] <cango> nagyv: killed
[01:09] <morghanphoenix> hmm, ssh? will that let me connect to MUDs like telnet?
[01:10] <mart> main2: oh, you did do apt-get update first?
[01:10] <main2> yep
[01:10] <mart> and apt-get source vlc?  not install...
[01:10] <Bropho> !hotmail
[01:10] <ubotu> If you must use this microsoft product, consider hotway: hotwayd/hotsmtpd are POP3/SMTP-HTTPMail gateway daemons, also works for lycos spray and msn
[01:10] <main2> mart: yep
[01:10] <Bropho> !microsoft
[01:10] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[01:10] <main2> mart: stupid me, didnt click 'apply' repos in adept
[01:10] <main2> sorry
[01:11] <nagyv> cango: run this sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[01:11] <morghanphoenix> If I ignore bropho will it stop his !s
[01:11] <cango> nagyv: some codes for reset adept i lost them
[01:11] <nagyv> cango: and then try to run again adept-updater
[01:11] <polo3> how i register mi nick?
[01:11] <polo3> pleasse
[01:11] <Bropho> !windows
[01:11] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[01:11] <nagyv> if adept seems to have crashed click on the show details button
[01:11] <nagyv> cango ^^^^^
[01:11] <Bropho> mental heath
[01:11] <morghanphoenix>  /msg nickserv help
[01:11] <polo3> thanks
[01:11] <mart> or /ns help if you're lazy :)
[01:11] <cango> nagyv: some codes like dpkg --a
[01:12] <Bropho> !the simpsons
[01:12] <ubotu> the: Full-screen character mode text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-4 (dapper), package size 277 kB, installed size 796 kB
[01:12] <Bropho> !simpsons
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about simpsons - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <nagyv> cango: run this: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[01:12] <main2> mart: now after getting the source, i have to compile it myself - do i see that right?
[01:12] <Bropho> !bored
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bored - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <cango> nagyv: thanx
[01:12] <Bropho> !kitkat
[01:12] <main2> Bropho: get lost- ur doing nothing than bothering people
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kitkat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <main2> !mods
[01:12] <main2> !admin
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mods - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <mart> main2: yeah, you need build-essential probably devscripts
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about admin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:13] <cango> nagyv: some codes like dpkg --a what is that
[01:13] <mart> Tm_T and crimsun are ops.
[01:13] <main2> mart: already got those =)
[01:13] <Bropho> it helps me with my bordem so shutup
[01:13] <main2> mart: but i tought that it maybe would be possible to install it using apt
[01:13] <nagyv> dpkg --help will tell you (i think it is about to reconfigure all the pendign packages)
[01:13] <nagyv> cango: ^^^^^
[01:13] <Bropho> !bordem
[01:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bordem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:13] <Bropho> !shutup
[01:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shutup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:13] <mart> main2: not if you have to build it.  try apt-get builddep vlc  ?
[01:14] <Bropho> !broadband
[01:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about broadband - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:14] <Bropho> !ubotu
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[01:14] <main2> mart: sudo apt-get builddep vlc
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[01:14] <cango> nagyv: i ask a question to u
[01:15] <morghanphoenix> no ops on?
[01:15] <Bropho> !
[01:15] <XTorchedX> !java
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[01:15] <main2> mart non valid operation
[01:15] <mart> morghanphoenix: am working on it :)
[01:15] <mart> main2: apt-get build-dep ...
[01:15] <polo3> somebody know TCL?
[01:15] <mart> add a dash.
[01:15] <Bropho> !goodbye
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[01:15] <nagyv> cango: what question?
[01:15] <cango> nagyv: when i want do download opera adept some error i see. what is that
[01:15] <cango> nagyv: when i want do download opera adept some error i see. what is that
[01:16] <cango> nagyv: when i want do download opera with adept some error i see. what is that
[01:16] <MenZa> Yodaspeak!
[01:16] <nagyv> cango: try to intall it from the command line. Open a Konsole windows and write: sudo apt-get install opera
[01:17] <main2> mart: build-dep cannot be 'fullfilled' because package 'xulrunner' is unfindable
[01:17] <morghanphoenix> I was scared of the command line a few hours ago, but fixing all the problems I've been having has forced me to use it and I'm starting to like it.
[01:18] <luca_b> morghanphoenix: it rocks, I can tell you that
[01:18] <morghanphoenix> I loved DOS
[01:18] <luca_b> morghanphoenix: if you have the patience to learn, you can do a lot of things
[01:18] <luca_b_lunch> away for lunch
[01:19] <morghanphoenix> Where is it lunch time? Not even breakfast time here.
[01:19] <mart> main2: you could build xulrunner ....
[01:19] <jpgeerets> hi folks
[01:19] <jpgeerets> i have a mount Q
[01:19] <jpgeerets> someone?
[01:19] <morghanphoenix> !SSH
[01:19] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[01:20] <morghanphoenix> thanks for the link little buddy
[01:20] <nagyv> jpgeerets: if you don't ask it, then noone will help you :)
[01:20] <jpgeerets> lol, ok
[01:20] <main2> mart: looking my ass off, on where to get it
[01:20] <main2> :d
[01:20] <mart> main2: just apt-get source that too :)
[01:20] <jpgeerets> when i connect my external HD (usb) is will be mount as read-oonly
[01:20] <jpgeerets> normaly is was mount as read/write
[01:21] <main2> mart: ahhh damnit :D
[01:21] <jpgeerets> someone know how this is possible?
[01:21] <main2> couldnt find it trough adept..
[01:21] <main2> or on google.....
[01:21] <jpgeerets> bu system update perhaps?
[01:21] <nath> salut
[01:21] <nath> bonjour
[01:21] <mart> main2: edgy, etch/sid only.
[01:21] <nath> je besoin aide
[01:21] <edu> dfgfdgfdgfdg
[01:22] <morghanphoenix> okay, ssh, can it be used to log into MUDs in the console like telnet?
[01:22] <nagyv> !fr
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[01:22] <mart> no, you want telnet for that :)
[01:23] <nagyv> jpgeerets: no idea, isn't it something with the HD?
[01:23] <nath> ubotu:  jai besion aide dur linux62
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[01:24] <jpgeerets> what you mean <nagyv>?
[01:24] <nagyv> nath: ubotu est lo moteur d'aide, ici on parle anglais, #kubuntu-fr on parle francais
[01:24] <nath> okays thank
[01:24] <jpgeerets> it worked for a long time
[01:24] <morghanphoenix> Woo Hoo! Mudding in my console.
[01:24] <nath> you
[01:24] <jpgeerets> when i look with ls -l, it only shows r.x...............
[01:25] <jpgeerets> for owner
[01:25] <jpgeerets> when i tryed, as root, chmod 777 <map>, it fails
[01:25] <nagyv> jpgeerets: I don't know what kind of external HD is that, but it happens that there is a small switch to make them only readable.
[01:25] <mart> jpgeerets: is this an ntfs disk?
[01:25] <jpgeerets> it tells its only readonly
[01:26] <jpgeerets> it's a maxtor, type II
[01:26] <jpgeerets> normaly this works fine
[01:26] <jpgeerets> until a few weeks ago
[01:27] <jpgeerets> how can i check what fileformat is used?
[01:27] <jpgeerets> perhaps someone convert it to ntfs, without telling me.....
[01:28] <m3xican> hi
[01:28] <m3xican> what a headache...
[01:28] <mart> jpgeerets: it's all the signs of being ntfs. :(
[01:28] <mart> jpgeerets: running mount will say.
[01:29] <jpgeerets> damnt! your r totaly right mart!
[01:29] <jpgeerets> running mount tels me next:
[01:29] <jpgeerets> type ntfs....
[01:30] <jpgeerets> brrrrrr
[01:30] <jpgeerets> stupid me, that im not thinking about this...
[01:30] <jpgeerets> and i guess there still is not a good way to write ntfs.....?
[01:30] <mart> jpgeerets: not usefully, no. :(
[01:37] <morghanphoenix> #terminal
[01:38] <morghanphoenix> !chanel
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[01:39] <morghanphoenix> !channel
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[01:39] <morghanphoenix> argh!
[01:39] <mart> oh, don't you start!
[01:39] <morghanphoenix> I'm trying to find out how to list all the channels
[01:39] <morghanphoenix> looking for something dealing with console
[01:40] <morghanphoenix> I'm very new to irc
[01:40] <Buffy^> ./list
[01:40] <morghanphoenix> ./list
[01:40] <Buffy^> oh ./chanlist
[01:40] <Buffy^> yeah its list
[01:40] <morghanphoenix> thar she be
[01:40] <morghanphoenix> thanks
[01:41] <Buffy^> no worries
[01:43] <cango_> nagyv: my adept preparing itself slowly after downloading
[01:43] <morghanphoenix> ooh, that's a big list
[01:44] <cango_> nagyv: what can i do
[01:44] <cango_> nagyv: now setup j2rel.4
[01:45] <nagyv> cango_: click on the show details button
[01:45] <nagyv> cango_: it probably need some user input (you have to type yes or no :) )
[01:46] <jpgeerets> ok, great folks, thanks for the help
[01:46] <Buffy^> <3
[01:47] <cango_> nagyv:
[01:47] <cango_> Paketler nyaplandrlyor ...
[01:47] <cango_> j2re1.4 yaplandrlyor
[01:47] <cango_> ------------------------
[01:47] <cango_>              Sun Microsystems, Inc.
[01:47] <cango_> [Daha] 
[01:47] <zorglu_> !paste
[01:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:47] <nagyv> cango_: ^^^^^^^^^ it's for you I think :)
[01:48] <zorglu_> yep :)
[01:48] <cango_> nagyv: what can i do
[01:48] <nagyv> cango_: sorry but I don't speak swedish(?)
[01:48] <nagyv> cango_: translate me the last sentence :)
[01:49] <cango_> nagyv: j2rel.4 setting up
[01:49] <cango_> nagyv: it's Turkish
[01:49] <nagyv> cango_: [Daha]  = ?
[01:49] <cango_> [More] 
[01:50] <cango_> nagyv: [More] 
[01:50] <nagyv> cango_: yesssss, I speak turkish! :)
[01:50] <steve_> SiS SI7012 isnt working with dapper?!
[01:50] <nagyv> cango_: click enter :)
[01:50] <cango_> nagyv: ne anladn peki
[01:50] <mart> well, if there's one thing kubuntu has going for it - it's that chinese and japanese spam is a lot prettier in kubuntu than it is in Debian...
[01:50] <steve_> module loads fine /proc looks ok but no sound
[01:50] <nagyv> cango_: you are welcome
[01:51] <cango_> nagyv: click where
[01:51] <nagyv> cango_: in the console like window, where you see [Daha] 
[01:52] <zorglu_> mart: how good is the translation in those languages ?
[01:52] <steve_> nobody with a SiS SI7012?
[01:52] <zorglu_> mart: i mean the coverage and the quality
[01:52] <zorglu_> steve_: this is very specific :) have you googled for it ?
[01:52] <steve_> yes, should work
[01:52] <mart> zorglu_: uh, pretty good I think.
[01:53] <zorglu_> usualy those issue are related to X driver more that ubuntu itself
[01:53] <cango_> Sun Microsystems, Inc.  [Daha] 
[01:53] <zorglu_> mart: cool :)
[01:53] <nagyv> cango_: does it work?
[01:53] <zorglu_> steve_: well look at the X output to see how it react
[01:53] <cango_> no it's %0
[01:53] <mart> zorglu_: I don't think docs are translated much but GUI I think is.
[01:53] <steve_> alsa,  SiS SI7012 is sound ;)
[01:53] <arcasa> Hey... I forgot what the terminal command is to run a .bz2... Please remind me :P
[01:54] <cango_> nagyv: no it's %0
[01:54] <kyaneos> kpersonalizer starts everytime i login
[01:54] <kyaneos> i need help please
[01:54] <steve_> arcasa: apt-get install unp ...
[01:54] <zorglu_> steve_: ah ok :) so it may be more related to arts/alsa and stuff
[01:54] <mart> zorglu_: http://l10n.kde.org/stats/gui/stable/zh_HK/index.php http://l10n.kde.org/stats/gui/stable/zh_CN/index.php http://l10n.kde.org/stats/gui/stable/zh_TW/index.php
[01:54] <mart> Hong Kong is pretty bad :(
[01:55] <cango_> nagyv: no it's %0
[01:55] <zorglu_> mart: thanks :) it was just out of curiosity tho :)
[01:55] <nagyv> cango_: what is 0%?
[01:55] <kyaneos> what can i do?
[01:55] <cango_> nagyv: my preparing is %0
[01:55] <zorglu_> mart: hongkong is not mandarin or english ? i mean they got their own language ?
[01:55] <nagyv> cango_: click with your mouse over doho (just to give focus to it), and then click an Enter
[01:55] <zorglu_> ok i should work more :)
[01:56] <nagyv> cango_: as if you would like to read more (daha)
[01:56] <mart> zorglu_: as far as I understand, mandarin is a spoken language - the languages they speak over there don't seem to  correlate with their written language ...
[01:56] <kyaneos> i have a problem: kpersonalizer appears everytime i log into kde
[01:56] <mart> kyaneos: yes, you said :)
[01:56] <kyaneos> xDD ok sorry
[01:56] <TheGateKeeper_> when you use apt-get, how do remove the application AND all the dependencies that it installed?
[01:56] <jpgeerets_> folks, another Q.
[01:56] <nagyv> kyaneos: delete it!
[01:56] <jpgeerets_> i logged in to my server with ssh.
[01:57] <cango_> nagyv: i'm sorry but i dont understand
[01:57] <kyaneos> nagyv: kpersonalizer?
[01:57] <jpgeerets_> want to try install a program, with ./configure
[01:57] <jpgeerets_> it told me there is no compiler
[01:57] <jpgeerets_> so i install: sudo apt-get isntall gcc
[01:57] <jpgeerets_> this installed gcc
[01:58] <jpgeerets_> when running ./configure, next error appears:
[01:58] <TheGateKeeper_> jpgeerets_: yes but install build-essential
[01:58] <jpgeerets_> checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[01:58] <jpgeerets_> ok, i try
[01:59] <nagyv> cango_: join the #ubuntu-classroom channel I will help you there
[02:00] <jpgeerets_> great TheGateKeeper, this workd!
[02:00] <jpgeerets_> tnx!
[02:00] <nagyv> kyaneos: yes, if you don't need it
[02:01] <arcasa> So I just downloaded libvisual plugins as a .tar.bz2
[02:01] <arcasa> And I'm kinda stumped as to what to do with it.
[02:01] <arcasa> Please help
[02:02] <zorglu_> "tar xvjf yourfilename.tar.bz2" will extract the content of the.tar.bz2 in the current directory
[02:03] <rainerh> hello perhaps somebody can help. i'm using a german keyboard and want to use the -chars in emacs. They workd perfectly in kde and konsole but in emacs it seems there's a problem...
[02:03] <arcasa> So once I have my files extracted... What do I do?
[02:04] <zorglu_> dunno depends on the content on it :)
[02:04] <morghanphoenix> how do you drop su when you're done using it in konsole?
[02:04] <arcasa> libvisual plugins
[02:04] <mart> morghanphoenix: Ctrl-D
[02:04] <zorglu_> you should use the .deb pacakage if you can, much easier
[02:04] <morghanphoenix> Thanks
[02:04] <arcasa> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=106542
[02:04] <arcasa> They're all .tar.bz2's
[02:05] <Surger> Where can I get help on k3b? The #k3b channel is dead.
[02:05] <Skrot> Hi. I've got a weird one.. I cant "reboot" or "halt" my laptop. Regardless root privs. (su -, sudo, myself). Any ideas where I start to debug this? I have been messig around with sysv's so that might be it
[02:07] <zorglu_> Skrot: no error message or indication of where it stops
[02:07] <zorglu_> Skrot: ?
[02:07] <Skrot> zorglu_: No. It just does the usual "Seding kill signal to all processes" or whatever, and then it stops
[02:08] <zorglu_> Skrot: you should look toward the acpi stuff, like trying to boot with the option "acpi=off"
[02:08] <Skrot> I'm used to getting some sort of feedback on which services are stopped etc
[02:08] <nagyv> Skrot: I had the same problem two days ago. With a root user I have loggen in to tty1, and it worked from there.
[02:08] <zorglu_> Skrot: hue surprising indeed... and nothing after this "kill all process" ?
[02:08] <Skrot> zorglu_: nuffin. Unless I use halt, it will eventually say "system is halted" but nothing more
[02:08] <arcasa> When I run strenuous programs (i.e Steam, CS....) My computer randomly switches off.
[02:09] <zorglu_> Skrot: tried to close all apps before calling 'reboot' ?
[02:09] <zorglu_> Skrot: maybe an apps refusing to be killed
[02:09] <morghanphoenix> how do you specify a directory with a spac in it on command line?
[02:09] <Skrot> yes
[02:10] <Skrot> as I said, I think it happend after I messed around with sysv's.. any way to restore them?
[02:10] <zorglu_> Skrot: oh ok :)
[02:10] <Skrot> Mr. smartypants (me) was trying to optimize the bootup speed :p
[02:10] <zorglu_> Skrot: like to reinstall it ? :)
[02:10] <mart> morghanphoenix: stick it in quotes "
[02:10] <Skrot> Not particulary
[02:11] <zorglu_> Skrot: ok i dunno how to restore all the init.d
[02:11] <Skrot> I've spent the last days tweaking everything to have it the way I like it :)
[02:11] <zorglu_> Skrot: i guess you dont have the backup of the previous conf ?
[02:11] <Skrot> nope :|
[02:11] <Skrot> but shutdown/restart isn't that big a deal, would just be neat to have it working
[02:11] <zorglu_> Skrot: hmm sorry i dont see what to do
[02:12] <morghanphoenix> media/sdb1/my music, where do the quotes go?
[02:12] <mart> you could just purge and re-install all packages that put files in init.d
[02:13] <mart> "media/sdb1/my music" or /med<TAB>/sdb1/my<TAB>
[02:13] <nagyv> Skrot: there is a command to switch to runlevelX, try that one
[02:13] <Skrot> runlever 0, thats halt right?
[02:13] <Skrot> level*
[02:13] <Skrot> magnus@frigg:~$ sudo runlevel 0
[02:13] <Skrot> unknown
[02:14] <Skrot> That can't be healthy?
[02:15] <|GaiJin|> what ftp server does people prefer??
[02:16] <mart> the one with the best bandwidth?
[02:16] <nagyv> Skrot: it can happen that your PATH is set up wrong try /sbin/halt
[02:16] <|GaiJin|> I was kinda thinking to install for myself to use....
[02:16] <morghanphoenix> Now I see, caps have to match, got it.
[02:16] <morghanphoenix> thanks
[02:17] <luca_b> nagyv: isn't init the command to change runlevel?
[02:17] <mart> there's also telinit - needlessly compilicated :(
[02:17] <luca_b> mart: agreed
[02:20] <Skrot> /sbin/halt did halt my computer :)
[02:20] <Skrot> But "whereis" halt returns /sbin/halt..
[02:20] <heinkel_111> anyone has a recommendation for audacity-like KDE application?
[02:20] <zorglu_> Skrot: "sudo which halt" ?
[02:20] <heinkel_111> sound editing
[02:20] <Skrot> /sbin/halt
[02:20] <mart> heinkel_111: nope, sorry.
[02:21] <zorglu_> Skrot: ...
[02:21] <Skrot> zorglu_: yeah
[02:21] <mart> heinkel_111: I nearly wrote one because of it ...
[02:21] <zorglu_> heinkel_111: kde-apps.org may be of help
[02:21] <heinkel_111> :(
[02:22] <morghanphoenix> Woo Hoo! Command Line Mp3 playback!
[02:23] <morghanphoenix> I know I sound like an idiot, but once I god over my fear of the command line I want to figure out how to do everything in terminal.
[02:24] <zorglu_> keyboard is like a mouse with a lot of button :)
[02:25] <morghanphoenix> everything is working once I figure out the syntax, lot better than windows would at a prompt.
[02:26] <morghanphoenix> I think I'm falling in love with linux, don't tell my fiance, okay?
[02:26] <zezelle> salut a vpos
[02:26] <zorglu_> !fr
[02:26] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:27] <scion> lads what a good ftp client? kasablanca is rubbish!
[02:27] <mart> konqueror.
[02:28] <scion> mart: i'll give it a go
[02:28] <Surger> gFTP
[02:28] <morghanphoenix> I use kftp
[02:28] <voicu> How do I setup my computer as a gateway?
[02:28] <zorglu_> out of curiosity, why do you use ftp and not http to transfert ?
[02:28] <SuperSub> can anyone assist with grub error 18 on boot up????
[02:29] <Surger> zorglu_: FTP is a more efficient protocol for file transfers - probably why it's still used.
[02:30] <zorglu_> SuperSub: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB#Error_18
[02:30] <morghanphoenix> that, and some sites only support ftp.
[02:30] <SuperSub> thx
[02:30] <mart> is it really more efficient?
[02:30] <Surger> Yes
[02:30] <mart> how?
[02:30] <zorglu_> Surger: what is 'more efficient' ?
[02:30] <Surger> The FTP protocol - less overhead IIRC
[02:30] <mart> less overhead per unit payload.
[02:31] <mart> I don't see how it could be.  HTTP just streams, and streams, and then stops.
[02:31] <zorglu_> well the overhead of both is negligable :)
[02:31] <zorglu_> exect if you transfert a lot of very small file :)
[02:31] <mart> then HTTP is still more efficient :)
[02:31] <zorglu_> but ftp has the access control which is not in http
[02:32] <mart> http has access control too :)
[02:32] <zorglu_> not in practice :)
[02:32] <mart> sure it does.
[02:32] <zorglu_> all the access control, the 2 password scheme and the ssl, are pigged back on it
[02:32] <mart> think webdav.
[02:33] <zorglu_> and it is hard or impossible to use in practice
[02:33] <zorglu_> let me rephrase
[02:33] <mart> zorglu_: right, but if you care about passwords, you shouldn't be using ftp.
[02:33] <voicu> anyone here using valknut? if so, i'd like to know if you also get low speeds on the network
[02:34] <zorglu_> as the access is mainly done for interactive use thru a browser, it create trouble to use in practice the access control in another context
[02:34] <morghanphoenix> any idea why my speakers buzz?
[02:34] <morghanphoenix> Is this a sound driver issue?
[02:34] <zorglu_> like 'i will do https but only accept those CA and do that in python' no trivial :)
[02:35] <mart> zorglu_: sensible ftp isn't exactly trivial...
[02:35] <zorglu_> mart: i do agree :) but more widespread as it is there from the begining
[02:36] <zorglu_> mart: in fact im not defending ftp, i more complaingin about http :) as i hit its issues quite often :)
[02:37] <morghanphoenix> seems like bittorrent is getting pretty popular for file transfer too, I've seen several servers set up just to handle bittorrents of thier iso files.
[02:38] <mart> I've never used it.
[02:38] <Surger> The problem is a lot of ISPs are now blocking or slowing BitTorrent transfers down. I doubt BT will ever become main stream.
[02:39] <mart> it doesn't work with proxies either.
[02:39] <zorglu_> yep because bt is not client/server so it cost the upload to the isp
[02:40] <morghanphoenix> Can you include subfolder in a *.mp3 command?
[02:40] <zorglu_> but bt people are playing cat/mouse game with isp to avoid this. there is some scrambling mechanism to avoid being recognize as bt and then not to be slown down
[02:40] <mart> morghanphoenix: rephrase in english, please :)
[02:40] <morghanphoenix> Yeah, my ISP is supposed to block slow bittorrents but I still get 600 down and 100 up.
[02:40] <slow-motion> hallo
[02:41] <zorglu_> morghanphoenix: mymp3_player `find . -name "*.mp3` :)
[02:41] <grothesk> Is cgwd gone in those xgl repositories?
[02:41] <zorglu_> cmdline are powerfull but may become ugly quite fast :)
[02:41] <morghanphoenix> like an artist/album setup where I want to play all files by an artist.
[02:42] <morghanphoenix> I should probably just make an m3u playlist for each artist.
[02:43] <morghanphoenix> Apologies for all the wierd questions, but once I get on something I want to know how everything works.
[02:43] <voicu> well, what you want needs a player that also reads from mp3 tags and such
[02:43] <voicu> i looked a lot for a command line music player
[02:44] <voicu> none suited my needs
[02:44] <morghanphoenix> I'm using mpg123 at the moment
[02:44] <aes52> anyone used the alternate CD here?
[02:44] <voicu> if i manage that and a command line video player i can get rid of the gui :D
[02:44] <mart> is that like the Open CD?
[02:45] <morghanphoenix> Yeah, videos would be nice, that's what scares me about switching distros.
[02:45] <oliver> morghanphoenix: sorry, didnt catch all of your conv, but have u tried "amarok"
[02:45] <morghanphoenix> I know I can get everything to work the way I want it with kubuntu
[02:45] <morghanphoenix> yeah, it's my GUI music player
[02:45] <morghanphoenix> I'm looking for a command line player
[02:46] <mart> $ du -hs .kde
[02:46] <mart> 411M    .kde
[02:46] <voicu> and maybe an equivalent of katapult in command line
[02:46] <voicu> you could do anything from the cmd
[02:46] <oliver> morghanphoenix: any special reason, or are u hardcore linux guy
[02:46] <mart> that's a lot to put over a 1Mb/s link :(
[02:47] <mart> voicu: you mean tab completion ;)
[02:47] <voicu> mart, not exactly
[02:47] <morghanphoenix> I'm stuck on the command line at the moment, I've been scared of it for two weeks, finally had to use it because something broke, and now I can't seem to stop trying to make everything work without the gui
[02:47] <morghanphoenix> No, I'm a total newbie, only been using linux for two weeks
[02:47] <voicu> i mean something like 'do play -s artist='x' track='title''
[02:47] <morghanphoenix> I just get obsessed really easy
[02:48] <mart> someone give him emacs.
[02:48] <oliver> cmdlinejunkee :-)
[02:48] <mart> well, I think I've reconverted back to debian :)
[02:49] <mart> after rebooting my machine last night, and finding that the USB keyboard and X server had stopped working in dapper. :(
[02:49] <tom_> need a bit of help getting codecs working
[02:49] <voicu> mart, i like debian better but it has a very slow release cycle
[02:50] <voicu> tom_: like mpeg codecs?
[02:50] <mart> voicu: am on testing for now.
[02:50] <tom_> downloaded the codecs package for mplayer, put them in the right dir, but not sure what i need to do next
[02:50] <tom_> yes voicu
[02:50] <morghanphoenix> Is it normal to have problems using su in kubuntu?
[02:51] <voicu> tom_: you should sudo aptitude, and look for lib-mpeg or something
[02:51] <tom_> tried that before, not sure why but it messed up...
[02:51] <voicu> libmpeg that is
[02:51] <morghanphoenix> I couldn't use it untill I changed my root password, now it workd fine.
[02:51] <mart> morghanphoenix: yes, since there is no root password.
[02:51] <tom_> this is with edgy knot 3 btw
[02:51] <mart> (by default)
[02:51] <voicu> tom_: what happened?
[02:52] <morghanphoenix> ah, so changing the root enabled it.
[02:52] <voicu> morghanphoenix: that's because kubuntu doesn't have a root account by default
[02:52] <voicu> sudo uses the password of the admin
[02:52] <voicu> su uses the root password
[02:52] <voicu> i think
[02:52] <mart> well, it has a root account, it just doesn't have a p/w.
[02:52] <tom_> actually, it's libmpeg i tried, it was libxine
[02:53] <voicu> mart, well, yeah
[02:53] <tom_> mpeg actually work, but without sound
[02:53] <voicu> tom_: did you install libxine-extracodecs?
[02:53] <tom_> this is what i get for libxine in adept installer
[02:53] <cango_> help i download opera stable with adept but i cant find it
[02:53] <tom_> http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1iu1.jpg
[02:53] <voicu> you don't get them from the repositories. you have to download them from packages.ubuntu.com
[02:54] <tom_> hmm
[02:54] <voicu> cango_: log out and log back in, it should appear in the menu
[02:54] <tom_> i think i used terminal to install libxine, but it messed up somehow
[02:54] <voicu> if not, try to run opera in a konsole
[02:54] <voicu> tom_: did you get an error?
[02:55] <tom_> i think so yes
[02:55] <voicu> well, what was it?
[02:55] <tom_> don't remember, sorry
[02:56] <tom_> here:
[02:56] <TheGateKeeper_> anyone done the firefox & amarok updates?
[02:57] <voicu> tom_: do this sudo apt-get install libxine-main1
[02:57] <morghanphoenix> amaroK, I removed firefox.
[02:57] <scion> TheGateKeeper_: not yet
[02:57] <morghanphoenix> I use opera, and as of tody lynx.
[02:57] <tom_> i get
[02:57] <tom_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:57] <tom_>   libk3b2-mp3: Depends: libmad0 (>= 0.15.1b) but it is not installable
[02:57] <morghanphoenix> *today
[02:58] <voicu> then download that http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmultiverse%2Fx%2Fxine-extracodecs%2Flibxine-extracodecs_1.1.1%2Bubuntu1-2_i386.deb&md5sum=5512ee45d3d0c9dd30f2588512729aa8&arch=i386&type=main
[02:58] <zorglu_> !restricted
[02:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:58] <voicu> oh, yeah :)
[02:58] <TheGateKeeper_> scion: I wanted to know if it was safe to do the updates, as just recently they seem to be letting out broken stuff
[02:58] <morghanphoenix> I wish I could, iPods don't support ogg.
[02:58] <tom_> done. what do i do with it?
[02:58] <morghanphoenix> AmaroK is safe
[02:59] <TheGateKeeper_> thanx morghanphoenix :-)
[02:59] <morghanphoenix> Yeah, my earlier experiance with flash player as an example
[02:59] <m3xican> !bluetooth
[02:59] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[03:01] <tom_> voicu, can you tell me what i need to do with that deb?
[03:01] <tom_> please
[03:01] <voicu> tom_: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:02] <ubuntu> slm ben turkey
[03:02] <morghanphoenix> can you change .deb packages file names or will that make them not work?
[03:02] <ubuntu> turkiye
[03:03] <abattoir> !tr
[03:03] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[03:03] <abattoir> ubuntu: ^^^^
[03:03] <ubuntu> efem
[03:03] <tom_> voicu: doesn't work properly
[03:03] <ubuntu> turk olan varmi
[03:03] <voicu> morghanphoenix: you can, information like package version are usually inside the file
[03:04] <voicu> tom_: does it have broken dependencies?
[03:04] <heinkel_111> !tr > ubuntu
[03:04] <tom_> yes
[03:04] <tom_> "
[03:04] <tom_> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libxine-extracodecs:
[03:04] <tom_>  libxine-extracodecs depends on libmad0 (>= 0.15.1b); however:
[03:04] <tom_>   Package libmad0 is not installed.
[03:05] <morghanphoenix> that's good, it's nice to avoid 20 charachter file names
[03:05] <ubuntu> what is this
[03:05] <zorglu_> tom_: likely an issue of repository, you got unniverse/multiverse ?
[03:06] <tom_> ah not sure
[03:06] <tom_> hang on
[03:06] <XTorchedX> what's multiverse anyway?
[03:06] <voicu> zorglu_: it doesn't have to do with repos when you install with dpkg
[03:06] <zorglu_> !repository
[03:06] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:06] <ubuntu> from turk'ye turkey
[03:06] <morghanphoenix> non-free packages
[03:06] <ubuntu> tom
[03:07] <voicu> sorry, i have to go
[03:07] <zorglu_> voicu: yep but it is for dependancy
[03:07] <voicu> good luck
[03:07] <tom_> ok thanks
[03:07] <zorglu_> !restricted > tom_
[03:07] <zorglu_> this is the usual process to get your stuff working
[03:08] <tom_> okay will try that as well
[03:10] <XTorchedX> !mp3
[03:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:11] <morghanphoenix> Ooh, MJS
[03:11] <tom_> ok started on that, i get "E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg" on the first one
[03:11] <tom_> ??
[03:11] <morghanphoenix> Mp3 Jukebox System for the console
[03:11] <morghanphoenix> who was talking about needing a good command line music player?
[03:11] <morghanphoenix> this one looks promising.
[03:12] <mart> morghanphoenix: what've you found?
[03:12] <morghanphoenix> MJS
[03:12] <morghanphoenix> Haven't downloaded it yet, so it may not work, but it has search functions and playlists
[03:13] <morghanphoenix> mjs.sourceforge.net
[03:16] <tom_> anyone explain why i get
[03:16] <morghanphoenix> you looked at it mart?
[03:16] <tom_> "E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg"
[03:16] <tom_> why i try and install that codec?
[03:18] <mart> morghanphoenix: never heard of it.
[03:18] <tmdx120> hi, Im trying to reconfigure my wireless hub with WEP can anyone help?
[03:18] <morghanphoenix> what do you think of the sourceforge page?
[03:19] <zorglu_> tom_: because you didnt follow the instructions at the begining of the page
[03:19] <mart> morghanphoenix: hard to tell, isn't it?
[03:19] <ubuntu> goog marn'g
[03:20] <morghanphoenix> yeah, but it'll be a good evercise in installing from source for me.
[03:20] <ubuntu> turk varmi
[03:20] <ubuntu> how are you
[03:21] <tom_> if you're talking about enabling the appropriate repositories, i'm sure i've already done that
[03:21] <XTorchedX> !multiverse
[03:21] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:23] <DaveQB> is there anyway to have WMA support in k3b ?
[03:23] <abattoir> DaveQB: for decoding?
[03:24] <DaveQB> yeah
[03:24] <abattoir> i think converting it to mp3/wav is the only option
[03:29] <mrbrdo> hey
[03:29] <mrbrdo> when i unplug my usb mouse, and replug it, i have to restart my session for KDE to "notice" it again
[03:29] <mrbrdo> same for my other USB devices
[03:29] <abattoir> mrbrdo: dapper?
[03:30] <mrbrdo> yes
[03:30] <mrbrdo> it only works on edgy?
[03:30] <abattoir> mrbrdo: is it fully up-to-date?
[03:30] <mrbrdo> yeah it is
[03:30] <abattoir> no, no, nothing like that
[03:30] <abattoir> KDE 3.5.4 too?
[03:30] <mrbrdo> how can i check the version
[03:30] <phreakys_> i installed a new kernel (686) and now my network support is gone
[03:30] <phreakys_> any idea how to get it back?
[03:30] <abattoir> mrbrdo: Help->About KDE
[03:31] <mrbrdo> 3.5.4 yes
[03:31] <abattoir> phreakys_: did you install the corresponding linux-restricted-modules package?
[03:31] <phreakys_> no, i guess not. thanks abattor
[03:31] <abattoir> phreakys_: if your network needs a 'restricted' driver, you may need that
[03:32] <mrbrdo> abattoir: it's 3.5.4
[03:32] <abattoir> mrbrdo: ok... one sec
[03:32] <phreakys_> aha
[03:33] <phreakys_> would that fix the acpi problem too? acpi worked fine on my previous 386 core, but with the new kernel it hangs on acpi at boottime
[03:33] <phreakys_> hm
[03:33] <mrbrdo> i think not
[03:33] <phreakys_> i see that they were allready installed :S
[03:34] <tony_> Hello. I installed qemu on my kubuntu ( 64bit ) , can i install 32 bit microsoft window as a guest ???
[03:34] <zorglu_> tony_: yes
[03:35] <tony_> ok.. :) .. thanks.. documentation was not very clear
[03:35] <zorglu_> will be slow tho :)
[03:35] <tony_> how slow ??
[03:35] <zorglu_> i dont think kqemu will be usable in this case
[03:35] <zorglu_> so like 5-10 slower that native window
[03:36] <zorglu_> where it is like 1.5-2 slower with kqemu
[03:36] <tony_> what about installing VMWARE ???
[03:36] <tony_> would that still make the thing slwo ?
[03:36] <mrbrdo> u can make chroot tony
[03:36] <zorglu_> dunno
[03:36] <tony_> chroot ? whats that
[03:36] <abattoir> mrbrdo: when did this start happening, after you installed KDE 3.5.4? or when you updated something? or did it just start out of the blue?
[03:36] <mrbrdo> tony_: read on forums
[03:37] <mrbrdo> abattoir: not sure, i just installed yesterday.. before i was on ubuntu and it worked fine there
[03:37] <zorglu_> tony_: in anycase im not sure, you can try and see
[03:37] <abattoir> !chroot
[03:37] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[03:37] <tony_> okk.. i guess i will daulboot in this case :(
[03:37] <mrbrdo> it's not dualboot
[03:38] <tony_> i mean by installing window on different partition
[03:38] <mrbrdo> ok
[03:38] <mart> dual boot is much easier than trying to do a 32bit chroot and vmware.
[03:38] <mrbrdo> abattoir: brb
[03:38] <abattoir> mrbrdo: can't seem to find any bugs relating to this.... do you have backports/updates enabled too?
[03:38] <mart> last time I tried, the vmware packages were broken anyway.
[03:38] <mrbrdo> abattoir: yeah i do.. brb
[03:38] <tony_> yes. it is , but problme is when i try to remove window ....
[03:39] <tony_> i will end up with window MBR all the time
[03:39] <mart> tony_: no, you can just boot into linux and run grub-install to put its boot loader back.
[03:39] <tony_> really ??? woow. didn't know. thanks . .
[03:40] <mart> you have to have a boot CD, and a bit of courage, but it works fine.
[03:40] <ubuntu> hallo leute
[03:40] <tony_> humm
[03:40] <ubuntu> lol
[03:40] <tony_> i have the boot cd.. but the other part  .. not yet
[03:40] <mart> :)
[03:41] <tony_> so i wont be able to install GRUB from adapt or synaptic ??
[03:41] <mart> tony_: it's probably already installed!
[03:41] <tony_> yes it is , but after removing window from my system ( daulboot)
[03:42] <tony_> or can i just install LILO  :)
[03:42] <mart> yes, it's installed on linux.  removing windows shouldn't affect that.
[03:42] <pfein> I'm doing an 'alternate' install - I don't want the full-blown kubuntu-desktop... what should I install to get a basic KDE?
[03:42] <tmdx120> Does anyone know how to get a versalink 327w working on the net?
[03:42] <mart> pfein: I'm not sure you can get such a thing with that CD.
[03:43] <mart> pfein: kde-core is the meta-package for minimal kde on debian...
[03:43] <pfein> mart: I've got options in aptitiude for kubuntu-{desktop, standard, minimal}
[03:43] <mart> oh, right.  I never saw that.
[03:43] <mart> go with the package descriptions then - don't listen to me.
[03:44] <morghanphoenix> laters, it's 7am here and I should probably sleep sometime this weekend.
[03:45] <pfein> mart: it's weird, those 3 show up as tasks in aptititude, but apt-get only seems to know about kubuntu-desktop. ;\
[03:45] <mart> ah, tasks != packages
[03:45] <phreakys> hi again
[03:45] <phreakys> i still got no network support for the 686 kernel, even with restricted modules installed :/
[03:45] <phreakys> any idea how to check whats wrong?
[03:46] <pfein> mart: hmm, ok.  how do I see what tasks a package pulls in? (Is the whole task thing documented anywhere?  no google love...)
[03:46] <mart> pfein: it troubled me for years with debian - in the end, I never bothered to find out.  they always installed too much anyway.
[03:46] <main2> can i stop my shell from bein localized (i want english only shell)???
[03:47] <mart> main2: hmm, that's actually quite difficult, I think.  in kubuntu, the X startup scripts source your .bashrc file..
[03:48] <mrbrdo> abattoir: ok back.. any ideas?
[03:48] <pfein> mart: ugh, I don't have a kde-core...  this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE seems either out of date or not applicable to alt. installs...
[03:49] <main2> mart:  thanks once again, i will take a look at it
[03:49] <mart> pfein: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=kde-core
[03:49] <main2> mart: still trying to get vlc to work well, so ive added it to my todo list :)
[03:51] <mrbrdo> abattoir: still there?
[03:52] <mrbrdo> amarok package still broken?
[03:52] <mrbrdo> amarok: Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0) which is a virtual package.
[03:53] <Kr4t05> Wow, I just gained 153MB by removing some out-dated kernel images.
[03:54] <mart> remember when 10Mb seemed like overkill for /boot ? :)
[03:55] <rancid> hey guys what package contains all the c development libraries, e.g. stdio.h, stdlib.h, unistd.h, etc?
[03:55] <Kr4t05> mart: I wish, i haven't been around that long.
[03:55] <pfein> mart: thx.  still annoying though - kubuntu-standard pulls in enough for a minimally functional console system, and kubuntu-desktop pulls in everything from acpi to open office. }:-[
[03:55] <mrbrdo> amarok: Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0) which is a virtual package. <-- still broken?
[03:55] <pfein> mart: something in between would be nice...
[03:56] <mart> pfein: heh :)
[03:56] <Kr4t05> Ok, I think this will work.
[03:56] <pfein> mart: If I wanted to cherry pick *all* of these packages by hand, I'd just use Gentoo
[03:56] <mart> Kr4t05: it was 10yrs ago at the most :)
[03:56] <mrbrdo> guys
[03:56] <mrbrdo> is amarok broken for you too??
[03:57] <mrbrdo> the upgrade, that is.
[03:57] <Kr4t05> mart: I would have been 7, barely playing Doom for the first time.... Good times.
[03:57] <mrbrdo> helloooo
[03:58] <mart> hey, I was coding on my ZX81 before I was 7  - what a wasted childhood :/
[03:58] <Kr4t05> heh
[03:58] <mrbrdo> anyone?
[03:59] <mart> who was asking about header files?
[03:59] <mart> rancid: libc6-dev, but you probably want to install build-essential.
[04:01] <mrbrdo> can anyone hear me?
[04:02] <mrbrdo> is amarok broken for you too? is it that hard to check
[04:02] <mrbrdo> half o the people here must be using dapper so..
[04:02] <Lynoure> see not hear
[04:02] <pfein> atptitude question: how can I *unmark* things?
[04:03] <mart> pfein: uh, just set it back to it's original state. _ to purge , i to install.
[04:03] <Lynoure> mrbrdo: broken in what way?
[04:03] <mrbrdo> The following packages are BROKEN:
[04:03] <mrbrdo>   amarok
[04:03] <mrbrdo> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:03] <mrbrdo> amarok: Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0) which is a virtual package.
[04:04] <Lynoure> mrbrdo: did you try an apt-get update already?
[04:04] <abattoir> mrbrdo: sorry....
[04:04] <mrbrdo> Lynoure: yes i did
[04:04] <mrbrdo> abattoir: ok.. so any idea?
[04:04] <abattoir> mrbrdo: do you have dapper-updates/dapper-backports enabled?
[04:04] <abattoir> please recheck
[04:05] <mrbrdo> deb http://www.ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/mirrors/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse
[04:05] <mrbrdo> don't have backports :O
[04:05] <Lynoure> mrbrdo: mine installod fine last time, what version is the one you are trying to install?
[04:06] <mart> heh.
[04:06] <mrbrdo> Lynoure:
[04:06] <mrbrdo> Keep the following packages at their current version:
[04:06] <mrbrdo> amarok [2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4 (dapper, now)] 
[04:06] <mrbrdo> abattoir: i have the Seveas repo though, that's supposed to be backports, no?
[04:07] <abattoir> mrbrdo: no, not as far as i know
[04:07] <mart> last time I looked that was mostly just NX stuff
[04:07] <abattoir> mrbrdo: i mean dapper-backports
[04:07] <mrbrdo> abattoir: ok sec
[04:07] <pfein> oh screw it, it's just diskspace
[04:08] <abattoir> mrbrdo: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports.... <= like that
[04:08] <mart> pfein: and menu space! ;)
[04:08] <pfein> true
[04:08] <pfein> mart: are deborphan/debfoster safe?  I'm /never/ gonna use open-office, might as well try to clean them up later...
[04:09] <AMD> which kernel has EdgyEft/Knot3/Kubuntu
[04:09] <mart> pfein: uh, if you keep kubuntu-desktop installed, the only way to get rid of OO.o is to use the equivs package
[04:09] <pfein> mart: don't follow
[04:10] <pfein> mart: oh, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop instead of the task?
[04:10] <AMD> which kernel has EdgyEft/Knot3/Kubuntu?
[04:10] <mart> pfein: equivs can be used to generate some dummy packages that satisfy dependencies, but don't take up any space
[04:10] <mart> pfein: and since kubuntu-desktop depends on oo.o, you'd have to use that to have kubuntu-desktop without oo.o
[04:10] <mrbrdo> abattoir: it only upgraded knetworkmanager and flashplugin-nonfree though.. i don't think that will affect anything
[04:11] <mart> pfein: on the other hand... you could just remove oo.o and kubuntu-desktop.
[04:11] <mart> debfoster and orphan work fine, but are very _boooring_ to use.
[04:11] <abattoir> mrbrdo: well, i cant seem to find a similar bug in launchpad, can't think of anything else....
[04:11] <abattoir> mrbrdo: have you tried restarting/rebooting etc. ?
[04:12] <abattoir> mrbrdo: ...just in case.
[04:12] <phreakys> hm
[04:12] <phreakys> 686 documentation anywhere?
[04:13] <mart> you'll be lucky.
[04:13] <pfein> mart: hmm, so the OO.o equiv is called...?
[04:14] <mrbrdo> abattoir: yeah i did
[04:14] <mart> pfein: no, no.  the equivs package is used to generate dummy packages.  you create a dummy package with the same name as the package you want to delete, then you install the dummy package instead of oo.o or whatever.
[04:14] <mart> it's just there to satisfy dependencies.
[04:14] <pfein> mart: ok, I get it.  how do I create such a thing?
[04:14] <Junero> what ubuntu packages are needed por the kdevelop documentation? i have installed kdevelop3-doc but it only content a bit documentation, i havent "bool","fopen","int", etc information for example
[04:14] <mart> install equivs :)
[04:15] <mart> Junero: glibc-doc
[04:15] <mart> if you're coding in C.
[04:15] <Kr4t05> Feh...
[04:15] <Junero> mart: glibc-doc is for c++ too?
[04:16] <Kr4t05> I have to boot up VMware to take a stupid servey ><
[04:16] <mart> no.
[04:16] <mart> Junero: what kind of C++ are you doing?
[04:16] <mart> STL? or Qt?
[04:16] <Junero> stl
[04:17] <mart> there's stl-manual
[04:17] <Kr4t05> I'm thinking about making a CLI RPG
[04:17] <pfein> mart: apt-get -s install equivs complains that there's no installation candidate. I'm clearly missing something.  is this doc'd somewhere?
[04:17] <mart> and also libstdc++-.*-doc
[04:17] <Kr4t05> Pulling some inspiration from Final Fantasy and Chrono.
[04:17] <Junero> mart: thanks
[04:17] <mart> pfein: perhaps it's in universe
[04:18] <pfein> mart: yup
[04:18] <abattoir> mrbrdo: sorry, can't think of anything else, and i haven't heard of this one before...
[04:19] <mrbrdo> abattoir: i'm upgrading some packages now, getting my amarok updated.. i'll try to reboot after and come back
[04:20] <mrbrdo> abattoir: btw isn't there a package called hotplug?
[04:20] <mrbrdo> abattoir: i can't find it
[04:20] <mrbrdo> abattoir: i remember it's supposed to decetd usb devices on-the-fly, that's why i ask
[04:21] <mart> dmesg is useful for debugging hardware stuff.
[04:21] <abattoir> mrbrdo: i'm not sure, but i think hotplugging is a part of the kernel
[04:22] <mart> afair the kernel is hardcoded to call hotplug
[04:23] <phreakys> bah
[04:23] <phreakys> i cant even use the 686 kernel ;\
[04:23] <phreakys> network support falls out with the new one
[04:24] <Kr4t05> Ugh, now I know why I never liked Windows.
[04:24] <AMD> which kernel has EdgyEft/Knot3/Kubuntu?
[04:24] <mart> .17?
[04:25] <mrbrdo> i think dapper has .15
[04:25] <mrbrdo> and edgy\knot3 .17
[04:25] <AMD> I need a distribution with .18
[04:25] <mart> yes, that's my recollection.
[04:25] <mrbrdo> AMD: i think u have to compile it yourself then
[04:25] <mrbrdo> not recommended i think
[04:25] <mart> better get comfortable with make-kpkg
[04:26] <mrbrdo> mart: but then he won't have any of the ubuntu patches -_-
[04:26] <AMD> mrbrdo: have tried doesnt work
[04:26] <mart> mrbrdo: not necessarily
[04:27] <mart> you should be able to install the ubuntu patches for .17, and if you're lucky, apply them to .18'
[04:27] <mart> apt-cache search linux-patch show anything?
[04:29] <tony_> daulboot installation help please. .
[04:30] <tony_> I just finished with MSDOS installation part
[04:30] <larson9999> Dr_willis: i've been wondering when he'll do a take on linger.  something like why did you have to pull my finger and let it linger
[04:30] <tony_> but system never boots into installation , goes directly to linux
[04:30] <tony_> what should i do
[04:30] <larson9999> tony_: funny. i just installed freedos since it hit 1.0
[04:30] <Dr_willis> I never did get a good download of the freedos cd...
[04:31] <tony_> im installing win2kpro
[04:31] <Dr_willis> i need to redownload it. :)
[04:31] <ninHer> hi all
[04:31] <larson9999> Dr_willis: so far it works pretty well.  i can use it in dosemu or dual boot it
[04:32] <larson9999> i'm on a bid to use a different FOSS OS every day of the week
[04:32] <tony_> so anyone can tell me why im booted right into linux and not into windows installation processes
[04:33] <mart> tony_: you don't have windows in the boot menu?
[04:33] <tony_> no
[04:33] <mart> try looking at update-grub
[04:33] <tony_> first part of installation was complete and i had to restart .
[04:33] <Dr_willis> I was trying it in vmware and it dident work.. but i think the cd was bad.
[04:33] <tony_> but once i do , it goes right back to linux
[04:34] <tony_> i have two partition on same harddrive ,
[04:34] <tony_> win partition is fat32
[04:35] <mrbrdo> abattoir: it works now, don't know why exactly :P
[04:35] <abattoir> mrbrdo: haha, the reboot trick almost always works :)
[04:36] <mrbrdo> abattoir: hm actually
[04:36] <abattoir> it isnt?
[04:36] <mrbrdo> abattoir: no.. when i unplug and replug my USB sound card, then if i unplug\replug the mouse it again doesn't work
[04:36] <mrbrdo> abattoir: but it works if i do it before i unplug\replug my USB sound card
[04:36] <mrbrdo> abattoir: and after i replug my USB sound card it doesn't detect it either
[04:36] <abattoir> mrbrdo: so your USB sound card might be causing this issue?
[04:37] <mrbrdo> abattoir: seems so but it worked on Gnome
[04:37] <mrbrdo> abattoir: also it works after i relog
[04:37] <mrbrdo> abattoir: i have to go now, but i will come back in ~40mins and try to fix this.. cya & thanks
[04:38] <abattoir> mrbrdo: not sure i'll be there though :)
[04:44] <fleissigfiona> hey i have a problem, when i put a cd in i cant get amarok to just play it, i have to rip it first to ogg and then play it. how can i get it to play it from the cd?
[04:45] <abattoir> fleissigfiona: one sec, i'll look it up, meanwhile try KsCD
[04:46] <abattoir> fleissigfiona: which version of amarok do you have?
[04:46] <fleissigfiona> yeah KsCD seems to work ok
[04:47] <fleissigfiona> 1.39
[04:47] <abattoir> does it have Engage->Play AudioCD (in the menubar) ?
[04:47] <fleissigfiona> abbattoir: yes but it is greyed out
[04:47] <abattoir> hmmm...
[04:48] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[04:48] <JonTec__> those people over at #gentoo are idiots. no way I'm getting rid of kubuntu for gentoo. I can't even get support for the livecd. I've been over there for like three days.
[04:48] <JonTec__> grrr.
[04:49] <JonTec__> but they're still not as bad as those guys over at debian.
[04:50] <larson9999> is there a hierachy(sp) chart showing 'meanness' of the linux help channels?
[04:50] <faked_> How do I install something that's in a .tar.gz archive?
[04:50] <abattoir> fleissigfiona: Settings->Configure Amarok->Engine... is your device selected there?
[04:50] <abattoir> faked_: depends on what exactly you are trying to install
[04:50] <mart> JonTec__: you mean the debian irc channel?
[04:50] <faked_> it's ZSNES
[04:50] <abattoir> faked_: most of the time it is './configure','make' and 'sudo make install'
[04:50] <larson9999> zsnes rocks
[04:50] <faked_> I did tar -xvvzf *filename*
[04:50] <faked_> I dunno what tod o now though
[04:51] <abattoir> faked_: there generally is an INSTALL file inside the folder, when you extract it, that'd have more info
[04:51] <faked_> I see
[04:51] <faked_> I'll go check that
[04:51] <fleissigfiona> abbattoir:  doesnt seem to be
[04:51] <abattoir> and the Readme too....
[04:51] <abattoir> fleissigfiona: you mean the option isnt there, or it wasn't selected?
[04:51] <abattoir> fleissigfiona: if the option isnt there, upgrade to amarok 1.4.2
[04:52] <fleissigfiona> abbattoir: ok, would i get that through adept or sth?
[04:52] <abattoir> !amarok
[04:52] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[04:52] <pfein> JonTec__: Gentoo's not bad, you just really need to know what you're doing.
[04:52] <abattoir> fleissigfiona: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.3.php
[04:52] <JonTec__> yeah, but I'm talking about the support.
[04:53] <JonTec__> it sucks.
[04:53] <JonTec__> I'm having an simple (it seems to me) problem with initializing X and no one seems to care.
[04:53] <abattoir> fleissigfiona: you might want to change ...packages/amarok-143... to .../packages/amarok-latest... to make sure you always have the latest amarok
[04:54] <Skrot> !fbsplash
[04:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fbsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:54] <fleissigfiona> abbattoir: how do i do that?
[04:54] <abattoir> fleissigfiona: did you go to that link?
[04:54] <abattoir> ...or rather that page
[04:55] <faked_> okay it says I have to run a certain command "immediately after checkout the repository"
[04:55] <faked_> I know the command but what the hell does that mean?
[04:55] <larson9999> JonTec__: some channels seem to be more interested in helping after you've done a lot of RTFM.  i found that in #gentoo if i asked a question about something specific in the manual i got better help.
[04:56] <mart> faked_: that's for if you check code out of a version control system.  sounds like you got a tar.gz instead.
[04:56] <fleissigfiona> abbattoir: yeah, im not entirely sure what to do with it though
[04:56] <johey_> Is there any KDE version of gvim?
[04:56] <Dr_willis> kvim
[04:56] <Dr_willis> :P
[04:56] <Dr_willis> !info kvim
[04:56] <ubotu> Package kvim does not exist in any distro I know
[04:56] <johey> Dr_willis: I found no such thing with apt-cache search kvim
[04:56] <faked_> it says only do that if I'm using the CVS version
[04:57] <faked_> which I'm not
[04:57] <larson9999> JonTec__: this channel is surprisingly helpful even when it's 100% clear you haven't some much as manned or googled anything about your issue
[04:57] <faked_> okay I found more specific instructions I"ll check back here if I need help
[04:57] <Dr_willis> well ive used it befor
[04:57] <johey> Dr_willis: Is it usable as gvim?
[04:57] <fleissigfiona> abbattoir: its apt get right?
[04:57] <Dr_willis> and heck - it was even in my repos the other day
[04:58] <Dr_willis> it may of beeni had the newer beta-kde repos enabled
[04:58] <Dr_willis> johey,  of course. :P its just vi with a menubar.
[04:58] <johey> Dr_willis: I remember I have tested something like gvim but with QT, and that one indeed sucked at that time. It was some years ago though.
[04:59] <abattoir> fleissigfiona: you need to add it to your sources.list file...
[04:59] <abattoir> fleissigfiona: ok, open up adept
[04:59] <fleissigfiona> right
[04:59] <fleissigfiona> got it
[04:59] <abattoir> fleissigfiona: Adept->Manage Repositories
[04:59] <fleissigfiona> ok
[05:01] <fleissigfiona> abattoir: so ive added it to the repositories right
[05:01] <abattoir> fleissigfiona: yes, did you add that line...?
[05:02] <abattoir> fleissigfiona: 'deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest dapper main' ?
[05:02] <fleissigfiona> abattoir: yep
[05:02] <faked_> Why the fuck does ./configure NEVER WORK?! It told me to download this SDL media thing andd to install that, I simply have to run "./configure", "make", and "make install"
[05:02] <abattoir> fleissigfiona: ok now click on apply
[05:02] <|lostbyte|> faked_, language pls.
[05:02] <fleissigfiona> abattoir: ok done that and now fetching updates
[05:02] <abattoir> !language
[05:02] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:02] <abattoir> fleissigfiona: ok, now just install amarok(upgrade, techinically)
[05:03] <fleissigfiona> abattoir:right
[05:03] <faked_> But when I run ./configure, it returns "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[05:03] <abattoir> faked_: what error do you get?
[05:03] <|lostbyte|> faked_, sudo apt-get install build-essestials
[05:03] <abattoir> !b-e
[05:03] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:03] <faked_> E: Couldn't find package build-essentials
[05:03] <abattoir> build-essential
[05:03] <abattoir> no s
[05:03] <Dr_willis> !info cream
[05:04] <ubotu> cream: VIM macros that make the VIM easier to use for beginners. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.33.1-1 (dapper), package size 825 kB, installed size 2904 kB
[05:04] <|lostbyte|> faked_, sudo apt-get install build-essestial
[05:04] <faked_> I did
[05:04] <faked_> and it said "E: Couldn't find package build-essentials"
[05:04] <faked_> oh
[05:04] <faked_> wait no s, whoops, sorry
[05:04] <|lostbyte|> faked_, sgain ... sudo apt-get install build-essestial
[05:05] <vicente> ola
[05:05] <zorglu_> wow im identified by freenode now, i am part of the house now :)
[05:05] <vicente> hello
[05:07] <fleissigfiona> abattoir: thanks it works great now!
[05:07] <abattoir> fleissigfiona: cool :)
[05:20] <inc|freaky> whats a good FTP program for KDE?
[05:21] <Hawkwind> kftpgrabber, kbear, gftp, there are many of them
[05:21] <Hawkwind> You can even use konqueror itself
[05:21] <inc|freaky> hm, ok
[05:22] <inc|freaky> which one is the official one for kubuntu?
[05:22] <Hawkwind> No such thing really
[05:22] <inc|freaky> ok
[05:22] <Hawkwind> Use what *you* like and feel comfortable with
[05:23] <heinkel_111> where do i go to find information about how to patch a perl module?
[05:24] <heinkel_111> anyne got any cliues?
[05:24] <heinkel_111> *clues*
[05:24] <brush01uk> #ubuntu
[05:24] <lupine_85> #perl ? ;)
[05:24] <lupine_85> or man patch
[05:25] <heinkel_111> lupine_85: isn't it a special thing when it is perl module?
[05:25] <heinkel_111> like perldoc-f ?
[05:25] <heinkel_111> or do you use linux patch?
[05:25] <lupine_85> no idea
[05:25] <lupine_85> if it's a .diff file, then patch should work
[05:25] <|lostbyte|> heinkel_111, pls refer the readme the patch came with, from where you downloaded the perl.
[05:26] <|lostbyte|> perl/patch*
[05:26] <gemidjy> anyone digikam 0.8.2 stable (I could only find 0.8.2 rc1)
[05:26] <heinkel_111> |lostbyte|: it is just a diff file
[05:26] <heinkel_111> no readme
[05:26] <heinkel_111> that's why i am buggering you
[05:27] <fleissigfiona> what's the repository for getting the latest version of openoffice?
[05:27] <|lostbyte|> heinkel_111, no docs from where you downloded it.
[05:28] <heinkel_111> not as far as i can see, but i noticed there may be a bug due to me having norwegian as language selection
[05:29] <heinkel_111> http://sourceforge.net/docman/?group_id=47183
[05:29] <heinkel_111> i can't get any docs there at least...
[05:31] <pfein> hey, what's that KDE initial config program that let's dialdown the eyecandy with a single big knob?
[05:31] <Mortice> pfein: kpersonalizer
[05:31] <pfein> yup, that's the one
[05:33] <pfein> I have to say, (for reasons I cannot explain), KDE feels far zippier than XFCE.
[05:34] <fleissigfiona> how do you change the order of the grub bootloader and the time it waits?
[05:34] <Mortice> fleissigfiona: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:34] <fleissigfiona> ok
[05:35] <arienh4> does anyone of you know how i can run Second Life? It only gives warnings
[05:35] <arienh4> and it doesn't work with wine
[05:37] <pfein> and it doesn't make me want to kill myself with it's GTK-ness!
[05:37] <pfein> sry, that was flamebait
[05:38] <lupine_85> ...there's a linux client...
[05:39] <Dr_willis> lupine_85,  heh - i was just thinking that
[05:39] <Dr_willis> 'second life' now you can have No life, in 2 worlds!
[05:39] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:40] <Dr_willis> 'under 18 - try out Teen Second Life' -  ' under 5 tryout Toddler Second Life ' :)
[05:41] <lupine_85> apart from !KMail!, can anyone recommend a KDE/GUI mail/news reader?
[05:43] <zorglu_> lupine_85: thunderbird is not kde enougth ?
[05:43] <Dr_willis> I just use news-binary grabbers
[05:43] <zorglu_> as far as i know kmail is the only kde one
[05:43] <Dr_willis> rarely actually read the news
[05:43] <pfein> zorglu_: thunderbird blows
[05:44] <arienh4> de linux client doesnt work
[05:44] <lupine_85> thunderbird is GTK AFAICT
[05:45] <lupine_85> besides, it's eating 90MB of ram not including libs
[05:46] <pfein> gecko is bloaty
[05:46] <faked_> Okay after a long and painful process I finally got ZSnes installed, but after I ran "make install", I have no idea where it's installed to or how to run it. Halp?
[05:47] <lackdiant> hi, I've got installed ntfs-3g
[05:47] <lackdiant> but it crashes now
[05:47] <lackdiant> because of libc6
[05:48] <Dr_willis> where did ya get the ntfs-3g from?
[05:48] <lackdiant> mmm some added repo
[05:48] <lackdiant> one moment
[05:48] <lackdiant> I hadn't any problem before
[05:49] <lackdiant> but yesterday I wanted to update all my systema and it's necesary to have 2.4-1 version of libc6
[05:49] <lackdiant> and I can't find it
[05:49] <Dr_willis> somthing seems odd that its wanting to update libc6
[05:49] <Dr_willis> thas like a major core lib.
[05:49] <Ash-Fox> !mysql
[05:49] <ubotu> offically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)
[05:50] <Dr_willis> Unless you are mixing edgy/debian packages with dapper.
[05:50] <lackdiant> I hadn't edgy packages
[05:50] <lackdiant> only dapper
[05:50] <Dr_willis> what command did you use to isntall the ntfs-3g?
[05:51] <robb_> anyone have sound issues in dapper?
[05:51] <scion> hello all
[05:51] <lackdiant> I installed from a repository
[05:51] <lackdiant> and it worked fine
[05:51] <lackdiant> until yesterday
[05:51] <lackdiant> that required me another version of libc6
[05:52] <ge2x> where can i get buildhash plz tel me any1
[05:53] <lackdiant> I think the repository is deb http://givre.cabspace.com/ubuntu/ dapper main
[05:55] <nickv111> Hello. For some reason, wlassistant isn't working too well for me. When it displays an ESSID, I can click it and it will join the wireless network. This always works. However, I have to click refresh many times for it to display wireless networks. Many times, I click "refresh" more than 20 times, and then the ESSID shows up with five stars. I have no idea what the problem is.
[05:56] <zorglu_> nickv111: what about not click and just waiting, does it come up after a while ?
[05:56] <nickv111> zorglu_: I don't think it automatically refreshes
[05:57] <zorglu_> ok
[05:57] <ubuntu> hi everyone, whats up
[05:58] <nickv111> Are there any better wifi connection programs?
[05:58] <nickv111> I'd like something that automatically displays wireless networks and then connects to them
[05:58] <zorglu_> nickv111: it is likely that the issue is a lot deeper that wlassistante
[05:58] <zorglu_> well i think i should not express myself as i dont use wifi :)
[05:59] <nickv111> zorglu_: Well, it works after many scans, but the scans take almost no time, which I think may be the issue
[05:59] <nickv111> Like, maybe it's not scanning for long enough to receive any broadcasts
[05:59] <scion> woohoo I got the usb HDD partitions mounted... finally
[05:59] <zorglu_> nickv111: maybe there is a bad timeout...
[05:59] <lupine_85> rutilt r0x0rz
[06:00] <lupine_85> not in the repos... yet
[06:00] <lupine_85> erm, sorry. thought this was #ubuntu+1 ;)
[06:01] <Ash-Fox> !mysql-server
[06:01] <ubotu> mysql-server: mysql database server (current version). In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.2 (dapper), package size 36 kB, installed size 68 kB
[06:01] <JonTec__> !ide
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:02] <scion> JonTec__: what you wanna know about IDE
[06:02] <Ash-Fox> This is such a annoyance, mysql from the packages will not start.
[06:02] <gordel> Wer hilft hier weiter
[06:02] <m3xican> !apache
[06:02] <ubotu> offically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)
[06:03] <scion> Ash-Fox: is it for testing or to use as an actual server
[06:03] <mrbrdo> abattoir: hey i'm back
[06:03] <Ash-Fox> scion, an actual server
[06:03] <faked_> Hey I got a problem. I installed ZSnes, but I don't know how to run it >_>
[06:04] <scion> Ash-Fox: ok if it was for testing I was going to recommend Apache Friends, I use it for PHP/MySQL development myself
[06:06] <Ash-Fox> It's quite interesting to see that so many people have the same problem, but nobody has a answer too..
[06:06] <lupine_85> MySQL works here
[06:06] <lupine_85> well, in Redbus
[06:07] <faked_> Hey I got a problem. I installed ZSnes, but I don't know how to run it >_>
[06:11] <tony_> hellp
[06:11] <tony_> hello & help, I guess
[06:12] <pfein> uhh, where's the option to turn off startup notification?
[06:12] <Dr_willis> faked_,  run 'zsnes' from the terminal
[06:12] <_max_> sorry for someone to help you, you need to statea question
[06:12] <Dr_willis> faked_,  you do need some SNES roms :)
[06:12] <nimnrod> i accidently changed permission properties in /var and now my server doesnt work... i sccrewed the folder and i now i dont know how to restore everything as it was before
[06:13] <_max_> tony; if you want help in the unix/linux world, write your problem on ONE line, with all the information you can think of that may be related to your question.
[06:13] <lupine_85> erm, you can't really :(
[06:13] <nimnrod> help!
[06:14] <zorglu_> $ ls -ld /var
[06:14] <zorglu_> drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 2006-09-20 23:14 /var
[06:14] <zorglu_> nimnrod: try sudo chmod 755 /var
[06:14] <lupine_85> drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 4096 2006-09-12 20:02 /var
[06:14] <lupine_85> ...that's what rwxrxrx is :)
[06:15] <nimnrod> zorglu_:  what is ls -ld /var ??
[06:15] <tony_> I finally succeeded in installing Kubuntu, but it overwrote grub, and is not allowing me to boot to my fedora installation, as well
[06:15] <dmhouse> Hi all. I want to configure dual head output on my Kubuntu laptop. I've gone in through System Settings -> Display -> Administrator mode -> Second screen, but the 'Apply' button is greyed out.
[06:15] <Hawkwind> nimnrod: That's how he got the permissions for it
[06:15] <nimnrod> and the date?
[06:15] <dmhouse> Does this mean it's not possible with my video card, perhaps?
[06:15] <Hawkwind> dmhouse: Using nvidia ?
[06:16] <dmhouse> Hawkwind: I think so, not 100% sure. Is there an easy way to find out?
[06:16] <lupine_85> do you need root privs?
[06:16] <lupine_85> (eg kdesu kcontrol)
[06:16] <Hawkwind> dmhouse: What kind of video card do you have ?
[06:16] <dmhouse> Hawkwind: like I just said, I think it's an nVidia, but I'm not 100% sure, and is there an easy way to find out?
[06:17] <Hawkwind> dmhouse: You can run lshw | grep video to find out possibly
[06:17] <Hawkwind> Though you should really know what kind of hardware you have in your computer :)
[06:18] <Hawkwind> dmhouse: You could also look in systemsettings under hardware or something and it should tell you what kind of video card you have
[06:18] <dmhouse> I only know about the hardware that doesn't work :)
[06:18] <tony_> I dont seem to be able to find my grub.conf, and dont have my favorite editor (joe) to alter it, apt-get isnt findingf joe to install
[06:18] <altair> greetings, I recently installed kubuntu on my duron machine but i see my kernel is 2.6.15-26-386, isn't the 2.6.15-25-k7 kernel a better fit fo my pc?
[06:19] <dmhouse> lshw | grep video doesn't show anything.
[06:19] <Hawkwind> tony_: No such thing as grub.conf.  It's /boot/grub/menu.lst  is where your grub file is
[06:19] <Hawkwind> dmhouse: Look in systemsettings
[06:19] <tony_> oh, okay, and what editor is installed here by default for me to edit it?
[06:19] <lupine_85> altair: makes very little difference
[06:20] <kolin> how do i install my printer?
[06:20] <altair> lupine: really?
[06:20] <lupine_85> change to the -k7 if it makes you feel better, but they're obsoleted in edgy anyway
[06:20] <lupine_85> yep
[06:20] <kolin> i really have no idea
[06:20] <Hawkwind> tony_: kwrite, kate, vi and many others
[06:20] <tony_> no vim, no vi, no joe...
[06:20] <lupine_85> joe++
[06:20] <lupine_85> !info oe
[06:21] <lupine_85> !info joe
[06:21] <ubotu> Package oe does not exist in any distro I know
[06:21] <ubotu> joe: user friendly full screen text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-0.2 (dapper), package size 217 kB, installed size 696 kB
[06:21] <tom__> kolin go to system setting and add printer
[06:21] <dmhouse> Ah, right, it might be integrated graphics. System Settings -> Hardware -> Display -> Hardware tells me I have an 'i810' graphics card and driver.
[06:21] <lupine_85> !info joe edgy
[06:21] <ubotu> joe: user friendly full screen text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3-5 (edgy), package size 279 kB, installed size 868 kB
[06:21] <kolin> !print
[06:21] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:21] <tony_> but sudo vi menu.lst gives vi not found
[06:21] <Hawkwind> dmhouse: That's onboard then.  I know nothing about onboard stuff as I use Nvidia to use their TwinView for dual monitors
[06:21] <scion> tony_: use nano
[06:21] <Hawkwind> tony_: kdesu kwrite /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:23] <lupine_85> joe > nano
[06:24] <tony_> ok, I got nano /boot/menu.lst  but I dont know how to go about adding the fedora install back in.
[06:24] <wooptydoo> Is there any reason why firefox is using 30% if my cpu according to stop...
[06:24] <dmhouse> http://imagebin.org/6205 shows the screen System Settings -> Display -> Hardware.
[06:24] <wooptydoo> causing my computer not to work worth a damn?
[06:25] <lupine_85> tony_: copy one of the current entries (near the bottom), editing root, kernel and initrd as appropriate
[06:25] <mrbrdo> After i unplug my USB soundcard, what ever i plug into USB is not detected until i restart my KDE session.
[06:25] <mrbrdo> for example my mouse, or my sound card
[06:26] <scion> mrbrdo: on second, i am looking for something for you
[06:26] <tony_> and where can may I learn the proper settings for these parameters?
[06:26] <mrbrdo> scion: what?
[06:26] <wooptydoo> Any why can't I use iceWM themes from kde-look.org
[06:26] <wooptydoo> no option in Kcontrol
[06:26] <altair> lupine: thank you very much for your reply!
[06:27] <lupine_85> np :)
[06:27] <wooptydoo> Was some package not installed
[06:27] <wooptydoo> ?/
[06:27] <tony_> I know where the fedora install is (hda1) and that it is kernel 2.6.17, but beyond that, Im a bit lost
[06:27] <scion> mrbrdo: i installed usbmount in Adept and that fixed it for my USB devices, it auto mounts them for you
[06:28] <mrbrdo> scion: ok let me try
[06:29] <mrbrdo> scion: it says it's for usb mass storage devices though.. i have a prob with the soundcard
[06:29] <tony_> it has kubuntu at hd0,1 which I dont understand, I put kubu on the second partition (hda2)
[06:30] <mrbrdo> brb let me try it
[06:30] <josh_> i lost windows last night
[06:30] <Ash-Fox> Would anyone happen to know of a decent webbased management system for general servers (Since I'm helping a friend setup a server, who has little knowledge on Linux)?
[06:30] <josh_> tryin to enable spread spectrum clocking
[06:30] <josh_> windows won't boot
[06:30] <lupine_85> no longer webmin :(
[06:30] <josh_> i lost all my pictures
[06:30] <josh_> how can i do data recovery
[06:30] <steveire> Hey. I was sent a MS Publisher file. Can I use something in KDE to view/edit it?
[06:31] <scion> mrbrdo: do it anyway, whats the harm?
[06:31] <ninHer> bye all
[06:31] <lupine_85> josh_: data recovery as in restore deleted files, or data recovery as in re-enabled windows in the grub menu?
[06:32] <Hawkwind> steveire: Something like openoffice or something might open it
[06:32] <josh_> restore corrupted  files
[06:32] <lupine_85> that is incredibly vague
[06:32] <josh_> well not like fix everything
[06:32] <josh_> i know i lost some stuff
[06:33] <josh_> but i wanna recover what i can
[06:33] <lupine_85> how did it get lost?
[06:33] <scion> steveire: whats the craic - try KWord
[06:33] <lupine_85> did you install ubuntu over the top of it? accidentally rm -rf? throw it off a cliff?
[06:33] <angasule> !qemu
[06:33] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[06:34] <mrbrdo> scion: wow, it worked :P
[06:34] <steveire> the craic? Picking up on the whole irish thing? I don't think OO works anyway...
[06:34] <scion> mrbrdo: told ya, sometimes the descriptions are no all what they seem in Adept :)
[06:35] <mrbrdo> scion: :P thanks a bunch :)
[06:35] <scion> steveire: I am Irish and KWord opened a .pub file for me the other day without any problem
[06:35] <tony_> I dont know the fullname of the fedora kernel and dont know the other parameters to give grub to add my fedora install back in
[06:35] <mrbrdo> tony_: full name: uname -a
[06:36] <mrbrdo> oh nvm
[06:36] <tony_> but will that give me the fedora kernel, or the kernel that this new kubu install is using
[06:36] <arunkale> hey kids
[06:36] <mrbrdo> no the ubuntu kernel
[06:36] <ubuntu> w
[06:36] <steveire> Ah, right, I'm with you now. You go to trinity at the weekend?
[06:36] <mrbrdo> well, u have to know on which partition u have fedora
[06:36] <mrbrdo> like /dev/hda3
[06:36] <mrbrdo> for example
[06:37] <ubuntu> hi
[06:37] <mrbrdo> u have to find out if u have a seperate boot partition for fedora or it's on the same drive
[06:37] <scion> steveire: I'm already qualified and no, I HATE trinity students
[06:37] <lupine_85> tony_: mount the fedora partition and have a peek
[06:37] <ubuntu> do you speak italian?
[06:38] <steveire> scion: I meant because there's a KDE conference on. I checked it out for a bit, but it's a developers conference any way over my head.
[06:38] <lupine_85> !it
[06:38] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:38] <ubuntu> uboutu tnx
[06:38] <ubuntu> :)
[06:39] <tony_> I really am not even sure how to do that.  altho I have been using fedora for 6 years, I am far from an expert...I am a teacher and translator who needed to economize, and found myself in agreement iwith foss principles, but by far no expert
[06:39] <scion> steveire: hehe naah i'm too busy for conferences!
[06:39] <lupine_85> "sudo mount /path/to/devfile -t <type> /path/to/mountpoint"
[06:39] <tony_> this is my first attempt at a dual boot with two linux systems, and the first dual boot in forever (gave up windows in,,,2000, i think)
[06:39] <scion> ubuntu: uboutu is a bot
[06:39] <lupine_85> then "cd /path/to/mountpoint/boot" and see what's inside
[06:40] <tony_> I dont even know the /path/to/mountpoint
[06:40] <tony_> would that be /dev/hda1 where the fc install is?
[06:41] <tony_> thats not even in /etc/fstab
[06:42] <all-natural> hello all
[06:42] <tony_> maybe I should reboot with the fedora recovery cd and edit grub from there?
[06:42] <scion> hello all-natural
[06:43] <scion> all-natural: does your nick imply you have big boobies?
[06:43] <all-natural> scion: of course.
[06:43] <scion> all-natural: ohhhh yeah!
[06:43] <all-natural> scion: no, i just try live a sustainable all natural life style :)
[06:44] <scion> all-natural: booooooooo
[06:44] <all-natural> lol
[06:44] <tony_> uname only give me the info on the kubu install
[06:44] <scion> hehe
[06:45] <mrbrdo> tony_: mount the fedora partition
[06:46] <mrbrdo> tony_: sudo mkdir /mnt/dir && sudo mount /dev/hdaX /mnt/dir
[06:46] <mrbrdo> that way u'll find the partition
[06:46] <tony_> ok, but how do I mount the fedora partition?  I tried mount /dev/hda1 but it said that it is not in /etc/fstab
[06:46] <tony_> do I need to edit /etd/fstab first?
[06:47] <tony_> oh, I have to do sudo mkdir first to get it into fstab?
[06:47] <mrbrdo> tony_: just like i said
[06:47] <mrbrdo> no
[06:47] <mrbrdo> u don't need to get it into fstab
[06:47] <mrbrdo> make a directory in /mnt to which you will mount the partition
[06:47] <tony_> i hate not having root...
[06:47] <mrbrdo> make it with sudo
[06:47] <mrbrdo> type sudo -s
[06:47] <mrbrdo> and u are root :)
[06:47] <mrbrdo> anyway, then type mkdir /mnt/whatever
[06:48] <mrbrdo> then mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/whatever
[06:48] <mrbrdo> this way you don't need it in fstab
[06:48] <tony_> that worked!
[06:48] <mrbrdo> then check if it's the right partition
[06:48] <mrbrdo> if not, umount /mnt/whatever
[06:48] <mrbrdo> mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/whatever
[06:48] <mrbrdo> continue doing this until you find it
[06:48] <mrbrdo> then tell me and i'll tell u what to do next
[06:51] <mrbrdo> tony_: how's it going?
[06:52] <tony_> ok, I got the initrd and kernel parameters, but am unsure what to put for the root parameter, for kubu I see (hd0,1) but I dont understand, bc, the kubu is at hda2
[06:52] <mrbrdo> ok here's how that works
[06:52] <mrbrdo> if you have a /boot directory in the partition of fedora
[06:52] <mrbrdo> then root is the same
[06:52] <tony_> I do
[06:52] <mrbrdo> as the boot
[06:52] <mrbrdo> for example, if fedora is on /dev/hda3, the root is (0,2)
[06:53] <mrbrdo> understand?
[06:53] <mrbrdo> kernel is then /boot/vmlinuz...
[06:53] <mrbrdo> and intird /boot/initrd.img...
[06:53] <rikhard> hi all
[06:53] <tony_> Im a little confused, only becase, fromwhat I understand, I put kubu on the 2nd partiton, hda2, but what it says is (hd0,1), so unure what that would mean for the fedora install
[06:53] <mrbrdo> tony_: i'll tell u in pvt ok
[06:54] <tony_> fedora is at hda1
[06:55] <tony_> cant send prvt msg because I am unregistered and confused abou tthe register command (boy...I m just lost all over, no?)
[06:55] <mrbrdo> oh ok
[06:55] <mrbrdo> just read in pvt then
[06:58] <tony_> thanks so much, mrbrdo...think I got it, going to save the menu.lst and try to reboot
[06:58] <mrbrdo> ok
[06:59] <mrbrdo> i have to go
[06:59] <mrbrdo> tony_:
[06:59] <mrbrdo> so i hope u got it working
[06:59] <mrbrdo> i come back in 30 mins to 1 hr
[07:00] <rikhard> can we use the debian-multimedia repositiry with kubuntu?
[07:00] <rikhard> repository
[07:00] <tom_> help! how can i get screen resolution higer than 1024 x 768
[07:01] <esben> tom_: Define them in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:01] <esben> tom_:  (Hang on, getting an example for you)
[07:01] <tony_> darn it...wouldt let me save changes....
[07:01] <Admiral_Chicago> rikhard, you could. but its not advised
[07:01] <Admiral_Chicago> the ubuntu repos will be more than enough
[07:01] <tony_> I dont understand this sudo stuff, much, used to getting root to do this stuf
[07:02] <rikhard> hummm, it break automatix?
[07:02] <esben> tony_: Try sudo su :o)
[07:02] <Dr_willis> tony_,  just put sudo infront of the command, no need to have a root shell open all the time
[07:02] <rikhard> well, packages from dm are more updated
[07:02] <Admiral_Chicago> rikhard, no
[07:02] <Admiral_Chicago> what are you trying to do?
[07:02] <tony_> just tried to do it again, sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst and got Unknonw id: nano
[07:02] <esben> tom_: Find The screens section (It starts with Section "Screen")
[07:02] <Admiral_Chicago> try sudo apt-get install nano
[07:03] <Admiral_Chicago> thats strange,
[07:03] <esben> tom_: Then edit all the lines that starts with Modes to something like this
[07:03] <esben> tom_:                 Modes           "1600x1200 1400x1050 1200x960 1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[07:03] <esben> And I will be very happy when X finally foes this automatically and correctly
[07:04] <esben> Hmmm... is it just me, or is DNS getting really slow...?
[07:05] <tony_> ok, think I got it
[07:05] <tony_> yep, changes saved....lets see what happens on reboot now
[07:05] <tony_> Ill be back!
[07:06] <main2> could anyone tell me how to stop localisation of my shell.... i dont want a dutch console..
[07:06] <main2> i would like to get my shell back - in plain english, is this possible?!
[07:07] <tom_> changed xorg.conf but no change
[07:09] <tom_> <esben : changed xorg.conf but no change
[07:10] <main2> i would like to get my shell back - in plain english, is this possible?!
[07:13] <abaldwin> Im back (was tony)
[07:13] <abaldwin> successfully added fedora to the grub menu, but when I tried to boot it, I got file not found, so I ust have done something wrong
[07:13] <arunkale> what is fedora like
[07:13] <arunkale> is it nice?
[07:13] <rikhard> well i was trying to upgrade dvdrip, transcode etc
[07:14] <tom_> help! how to get screen resolution higer than 1024x768
[07:15] <eihnat> arunkale: fedora is like any other distro. still linux. ;)
[07:15] <eihnat> i liked to use it.
[07:15] <arunkale> i'd tried using it when it was FC3
[07:16] <arunkale> that was on a friend's computer
[07:16] <arunkale> that was my first linux experience
[07:16] <arunkale> seemed pretty cool
[07:16] <arunkale> is it as easy to use as kubuntu/
[07:16] <arunkale> ?
[07:16] <abaldwin> yeah, Ive been using rh and fc since 2000 when I gave up windows, completely new to kubunto. this is my first day on my first kubu install
[07:16] <abaldwin> and I some hosed grub in the process, and cant get my fedora install to boot
[07:17] <abaldwin> I really loved fedora for so long, but now, for some reason, every yum update breaks something, thus, I am here
[07:17] <arunkale> ah
[07:18] <eihnat> i used mostly fc4, liked that probably the best. fc5 had still problems with something. 4 was absolutely easy to install and setup, in 5 had so many problems, that i gave up and changed to kubuntu and gentoo.
[07:19] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:19] <arunkale> how is your kubuntu experience as compared to using fc
[07:20] <eihnat> well, probably better. at least definitely if i compare to fc5, and kubuntu 6.06
[07:21] <eihnat> to be honest, ubuntu/kubuntu is probably really distro that is one of best out now.
[07:22] <arunkale> cool
[07:25] <n00btard> does anyone know why when i installed msttcorefonts the new fonts arnt able to be used? (they dont show up anywhere)
[07:27] <mrbrdo> what's better, xmule or amule, or something else?
[07:28] <eihnat> mrbrdo: amule not bad. i hadn't have any problems
[07:28] <Hawkwind> mrbrdo: It's all about personal choice really.  Use several and see what *you* like best
[07:28] <luca_b> mrbrdo: amule has support also for the Kad protocol, unsure about xmule
[07:29] <mrbrdo> i want one that support kademilla
[07:29] <mrbrdo> supports*
[07:29] <luca_b> mrbrdo: then amule it is
[07:29] <mrbrdo> i'll try that then :)
[07:29] <luca_b> (a recent version)
[07:29] <luca_b> I tested with a Kad network, so I'm sure it works
[07:29] <sybux> I've just made an apt-get install koffice and when I try to start kword for example, I've got an error : kwordpart.desktop not found
[07:29] <sybux> any ideas ?
[07:30] <luca_b> sybux: try doing sudo apt-get install --reinstall kword
[07:30] <sybux> luca_b: still same error
[07:31] <luca_b> sybux: then do this
[07:31] <luca_b> sybux: sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update && apt-file search kwordpart.desktop
[07:31] <luca_b> this will tell you which package has that file
[07:32] <sybux> luca_b: here is the complete error code : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24693
[07:32] <sybux> I'm running the commands you have me
[07:33] <luca_b> sybux: ok, lookin
[07:33] <arunkale> i didnt get how to use amule
[07:33] <luca_b> g
[07:33] <arunkale> how to connect to a server, etc
[07:33] <luca_b> sybux: really odd, indeed
[07:34] <luca_b> ok
[07:34] <luca_b> sybux: sudo apt-get install kword-data
[07:34] <luca_b> if it says it's already installed, pass it with the option --reinstall
[07:34] <sybux> luca_b: it's already newest version
[07:34] <sybux> lol
[07:34] <luca_b> sudo apt-get install --reinstall kword-data
[07:35] <sybux> luca_b: ok done
[07:35] <luca_b> give it a try now
[07:35] <sybux> same error
[07:35] <luca_b> erf
[07:35] <luca_b> sybux: try dpkg -L kword-data | grep *.desktop
[07:35] <Hawkwind> !repos > Hawkwind
[07:35] <sybux> luca_b: is there a special install to do after the apt-get to configure user script or other things ?
[07:36] <sybux> luca_b: nothing
[07:36] <luca_b> sybux: my bad, wrong regular expression
[07:36] <luca_b> sybux: retry with dpkg -L kword-data | grep kwordpart
[07:37] <ffk> hi all
[07:37] <sybux> it's in /usr/share/services
[07:37] <ffk> pl?
[07:37] <luca_b> then do a ls /usr/share/services/ | grep kwordpart
[07:37] <sybux> luca_b:  ??
[07:37] <FFK> pl?
[07:37] <luca_b> sybux: that is to see if the file is actually there
[07:38] <sybux> oops sorry I've read ln in stead of ls !
[07:38] <FFK> who can help me (pl) becauce i can`t speak english
[07:38] <luca_b> and obligatory question, which version of Koffice are you using?
[07:38] <FFK> ?
[07:38] <joth> I just tried asking on  #winehq about a problem, and the guy asked for what 'locale' I was using - when I said I didn't know, he said ask on your distro channel. Can anyone help me with my cluelessness?
[07:38] <luca_b> joth: the "locale" means which language, regional settings, etc you are using
[07:38] <sybux> luca_b: the file is there. I've just do an apt-get install koffice
[07:38] <FFK> need help
[07:39] <FFK> bye :[
[07:39] <Hawkwind> FFK: Just ask your question
[07:39] <luca_b> sybux: oddd
[07:39] <joth> So would it just be 'English'?
[07:39] <sybux> luca_b: it's version 1.5.0-0ubuntu9
[07:39] <luca_b> joth: if you're british English is en_GB, otherwise it's en_US
[07:39] <joth> Thanks :)
[07:40] <luca_b> sybux: kubuntu.org has 1.6 beta packages up in case you're interested
[07:40] <luca_b> sybux: perhaps that may fix the problem, but notice it's a beta
[07:40] <sybux> luca_b: for the moment I just want it to works
[07:41] <luca_b> sybux: try doing what the error suggestios you - kde-config --path services
[07:41] <sybux> I've done and here is the result :
[07:42] <sybux>  /home/sybux/.kde/share/services/:/usr/share/services/
[07:42] <luca_b> sybux: erf
[07:42] <sybux> so it should works
[07:42] <luca_b> sybux: really odd
[07:42] <sybux> perhaps shall I need to open a new session. I'll try
[07:43] <luca_b> sybux: may be worth trying
[07:44] <mojosound> I am running the live cd, how do I mount hdb5 to archive data on it to cd for backup.  It is ext3 file system.
[07:46] <all-natural> hello all, i have a  quick inquirey. amarok keeps freezing sence the last update, but only after i turn up the volume through kmix. now, my problem is i can't restart amarok after i close it. it just doesnt boot up, is there some other process that needs to be restarted? everything seems to be working fine if i reboot, minus the freezing
[07:46] <luca_b> all-natural: try doing "killall amarokapp" in a terminal
[07:47] <Hawkwind> all-natural: Have you tried running it from a terminal to see if you get any errors or anything when it freezes ?
[07:47] <all-natural> tyx luca_b that worked
[07:47] <all-natural> hawkwind, let me find out right now that it's up and running again
[07:49] <all-natural> strange, now that i did killall it seems to not freeze (i didn't run it from a term)
[07:49] <all-natural> it may have something to do when it loads on boot from the last session
[07:50] <all-natural> thx for your help :D
[07:52] <mrbrdo> is it possible to make KDE display only those windows in taskbar, that are opened in CURRENT desktop, not on all desktops
[07:53] <luca_b> mrbrdo: yes, right click on taskbar
[07:53] <luca_b> mrbrdo: select configure panels
[07:54] <luca_b> mrbrdo: select "taskbar" and uncheck "show windows of all desktops"
[07:54] <arunkale> mrbrdo: anything's possible
[07:54] <arunkale> :)
[07:54] <abattoir> mrbrdo: sorry, was away, glad it worked for you :)
[07:55] <arcasa> How do I tell mplayer to repeat a file?
[07:55] <arunkale> "repeat the file, bitch"
[07:56] <arcasa> . . . . .
[07:56] <arunkale> sorry
[07:56] <arcasa> That's OK.
[07:56] <abattoir> arunkale: you've been here long enough to know its inappropriate...
[07:56] <abattoir> oh, well :)
[07:56] <arunkale> I'm sorry
[07:56] <arcasa> How do I really do it?
[07:56] <abattoir> arunkale: yes, i saw that, that's why i stopped in the middle :P
[07:57] <abattoir> arcasa: rt. click repeat track or something?(not familiar w/ it, sorry)
[07:57] <arcasa> mplayer is a terminal player... No UI
[07:57] <abattoir> well, there is mplayer gui... i thought you were refering to it...
[07:58] <arunkale> arcasa: i'm trying to find out for you
[07:58] <arcasa> Nope... I use the terminal player. Less of a distraction :P
[07:58] <mrbrdo> luca_b: thanks a lot :)
[07:58] <arcasa> Thanks arunkale.
[07:59] <arcasa> Dammnit I have to sit on the desk... My little cat stole my chair :O!
[07:59] <abattoir> arcasa: -loop might help...
[08:00] <tom_> got a prob with Adept Manager, can someone help?
[08:00] <arcasa> -loop. Thanks.
[08:00] <arunkale> arcasa: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/man/en/mplayer.1.html#USAGE
[08:00] <altair> has anyone installed netodragon driver modem in kubuntu dapper?
[08:00] <abattoir> arcasa: -loop followed by the no. of times you want it to loop
[08:00] <tom_> under the Adept menu, Manage Repositories is greyed out
[08:00] <arcasa> No infinite sign?
[08:00] <abattoir> arcasa: 0 is loop forever
[08:00] <abattoir> :)
[08:00] <arcasa> :D
[08:00] <arcasa> Thanks y'all. Bye now.
[08:04] <tom_> progblem with Adept Manager: under the Adept menu, Manage Repositories is greyed out
[08:04] <linoleum> hi , I got a question : I've got an amdTurion64 , but i'm with the dapper 32 bits version . I would like to have an optimized kernel. Should I use a K7 or a i686 kernel ?
[08:05] <abattoir> linoleum: i guess k7 is a bit more suited, but personally i've found no noticable difference
[08:06] <abattoir> tom_: are you running it w/ root privileges?
[08:06] <linoleum> the reason why I'm not sure to use K7 (which would be like K8 for 32 bits) , is because of this : http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/installation/kernel_optimise
[08:06] <sinpath> can some one help me with my ripper?
[08:06] <abattoir> sinpath: ask your question :)
[08:07] <abattoir> linoleum: hmm, mind giving a gist of what it says?
[08:07] <sinpath> well it wont rip my cds & save them to file
[08:07] <sinpath> well it rips them but ownt save to file
[08:07] <abattoir> sinpath: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping#head-5faf5813462218ac5192409ef168934979f4ff85 might help :)
[08:08] <sinpath> thanks
[08:08] <abattoir> sinpath: i may not *really* be helping you, but that's an easier method of ripping ;)
[08:08] <linoleum> well, it's an "how to" , to have an optimized kernel. And they say that if you got an AMD64, but run in 32 bits, you should use the i686 kernel . But I dont think it's obvious :)
[08:08] <jessica_> hallo!
[08:08] <abattoir> linoleum: as i said, i've tried both, i haven't noticed any difference between the two
[08:09] <jessica_> wo muss ich hin wenn ich zum deutschen kubuntu will?
[08:09] <abattoir> !de
[08:09] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:09] <abattoir> jessica^^
[08:09] <tom_> abbatoir: i assume so
[08:09] <abattoir> jessica_: ^^^
[08:10] <tom_> seeing as how i have to enter my password upon launching adept manager
[08:10] <abattoir> tom_: hmm, that's weird... must be a bug then... are you on dapper?
[08:10] <tom_> no, edgy knot 3
[08:10] <Hawkwind> Known issue in Edgy
[08:10] <abattoir> tom_: aah, then must be a bug, wait let me check
[08:10] <tom_> bugger
[08:10] <abattoir> Hawkwind: hi, really?
[08:11] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Yes.  Jucato filed a bug report
[08:11] <abattoir> Hawkwind: ok, i can confirm it too...
[08:11] <Hawkwind> abattoir: He filed it back on Knot2 actually when I confirmed it
[08:11] <Hawkwind> I don't remember if I ever confirmed the bug or not on LP
[08:12] <jessica_> #kubuntu-de
[08:12] <scion> back
[08:12] <jessica_> h???
[08:12] <abattoir> jessica_: /join #kubuntu-de or just click on it
[08:12] <tom_> well.. i'm still struggling to understand most of this, but would the changes i'd make in Manage Respositories the same as when I edit sources.list?
[08:13] <jessica_> thank you!
[08:13] <Hawkwind> tom_: Yes
[08:13] <abattoir> tom_: yes,
[08:13] <tom_> same effect?
[08:13] <tom_> right, thought so, thanks
[08:13] <abattoir> tom_: Manage Repositories is just a graphical method of editing sources.list
[08:13] <Hawkwind> tom_: It's easier IMO to just edit the file and use the package manager from CLI rather than relying on a GUI package manager
[08:14] <tom_> it's just i'm closely following instructions in documentation to get some things working
[08:16] <tom_> doing apt-get update - accessing .gb server, seems slow, anyone else using the gb?
[08:16] <tom_> is there another which is faster at the moment?
[08:18] <bobesponja> hey all
[08:19] <bobesponja> I associated .rhtml to open with kate and now everytime I open a webpage that runs on my webrick konqueror opens it in kate
[08:19] <bobesponja> how can I fix this?
[08:19] <J> is it easy to install kubuntu onto my system whilst keeping the 2 OS's i already have installed
[08:19] <_kkathman> tom I have the gb sources also
[08:20] <_kkathman> tom  I dont seem to experience the slowness, though
[08:20] <tom_> damnit
[08:21] <tom_> downloading at about 500Bps
[08:21] <jaysef> is it easy to install kubuntu onto my system whilst keeping the 2 OS's i already have installed
[08:21] <tom_> depends what you mean by easy jaysef
[08:21] <jaysef> well atm i have dual boot with xp and slax
[08:21] <scion> bobesponja: right click on the file - select open with and picl firefox or opera - don't forget to check the box at the bottom for konqueror to remember
[08:22] <tom_> did you find that easy to do?
[08:22] <jaysef> id like to add kubuntu as well, i have a spare partition in etx3 format
[08:22] <jaysef> but im worried in case i wipe the boot record i already have
[08:24] <jaysef> tom: the os installer done it all for me
[08:24] <sinpath> hey ummm can yany one tell me what this means?
[08:24] <sinpath> The selected encoder was not found.
[08:24] <jaysef> are you trying to watch a movie format or something ?
[08:24] <abattoir> sinpath: where do you get this?
[08:24] <bobesponja> scion: I want to open that page with konqueror but konqueror insists in opening it with kate
[08:24] <sinpath> when ripping the cd
[08:25] <sinpath> when its finshed it pops up
[08:25] <abattoir> jaysef: i'd expect grub to detect your other installations...
[08:25] <abattoir> sinpath: which method did you use?
[08:25] <abattoir> sinpath: audiocd:/ ?
[08:26] <sinpath> i have it set up for mp3  ya i think
[08:26] <abattoir> sinpath: are you following the link which i gave you?
[08:26] <sinpath> kaudiocreator
[08:26] <bobesponja> scion: it doesn't work
[08:26] <Dr_willis> it pays to learn the ins and outs of grub. :P
[08:26] <abattoir> sinpath: ok, you need to install an mp3 encoder...
[08:26] <abattoir> sinpath: install lame from multiverse
[08:26] <abattoir> !info lame
[08:26] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB
[08:27] <bobesponja> abattoir: hey :)
[08:27] <abattoir> !multiverse
[08:27] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:27] <sinpath> yes  & as far as i can understand
[08:27] <abattoir> bobesponja: hi :)
[08:27] <abattoir> bobesponja: installation went well?
[08:27] <nimnrod> i want to play MP3 files.... which package should i donwload? i use amarok as media player
[08:27] <bobesponja> abattoir: yes thanx
[08:27] <abattoir> nimnrod: libxine-extracodecs
[08:27] <nimnrod> ty
[08:27] <nimnrod> thank you
[08:27] <bobesponja> abattoir: I associated an .rhtml to open with kate and now everytime I open a webpage that runs on my webrick konqueror opens it in kate
[08:27] <abattoir> nimnrod: its in multiverse, so you should enable that, look at the link above
[08:27] <sinpath> ok thanks again
[08:28] <abattoir> bobesponja: did you try removing that association?
[08:28] <bobesponja> abattoir: any idea how to fix this? it's a ruby file that shold open like .html or .php as it outputs html
[08:28] <bobesponja> abattoir: where can I remove it?
[08:28] <abattoir> bobesponja: KControl/System Settings->KDE Components->File Associations
[08:29] <bobesponja> abattoir: I looked in there but rhtml is not in the list
[08:29] <rebecca> hi
[08:29] <abattoir> bobesponja: else you could set konq. as the default app, the same way you set kate...
[08:32] <bobesponja> abattoir: I did that but it didn't fix it
[08:33] <shegman> i added a symbol to the toolbar in kontact. now it crashes everytime when i want to start it.
[08:34] <shegman> what can i do?
[08:34] <Admiral_Chicago> shegman, you have the information backed up?
[08:34] <sinpath> umm question how do i find the muti draper cause i cant find it in my adept
[08:35] <shegman> what information?
[08:35] <shegman> the crash-report?
[08:35] <octan> Heya all
[08:35] <Admiral_Chicago> the information in kontact
[08:35] <octan> anyone got experiance with xmeeage ?
[08:35] <scion> hello octan
[08:35] <Admiral_Chicago> sinpath, what is muti draper
[08:35] <bobesponja> abattoir: ok thanx I had to go to /home/pat/.kde/share/mimelnk/text/html.desktop and set X-KDE-AutoEmbed=true
[08:35] <octan> why does this not print on 2 lines with xmessage-?? xmessage -c $(echo -e "test\nthis a test too")
[08:35] <shegman> no. i hadn't expected that it wouldn't start again
[08:36] <luca_b> uhm, I have a question
[08:36] <Admiral_Chicago> luca_b, ask
[08:36] <scion> "test \n this a test too"
[08:36] <tom_> can anyone tell me how to install codecs when apt-get update doesn't work
[08:36] <luca_b> do you know if .img files taken with k3b can be used in other burning programs?
[08:36] <tom_> how can i install codecs manually?
[08:36] <Dr_willis> !w32codecs
[08:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:37] <Dr_willis> tom_,  i download the latest .deb files from the mplayer homepage and install them
[08:37] <sinpath> ded http//ca ardhive.ubuntu.com\ubuntu/ dapper universe
[08:37] <tom_> please understand that the instructions at those pages aren't helping me
[08:37] <shegman> another tip then backup?
[08:37] <tom_> because they don't tell you what i've just asked. thankyou
[08:38] <tom_> willis, will you help me do that?
[08:38] <Dr_willis> download the codec packages.. install them.
[08:38] <Dr_willis> :)
[08:38] <sinpath> well i had just confugered my abept with eazy kbuntu
[08:39] <Dr_willis> Thers some other bot factoid with a better uel...
[08:39] <Dr_willis> but i cant rember it.
[08:39] <Dr_willis> !codec
[08:39] <tom_> i tried that before, got stuck after placing the codecs in the codecs folder, didn't know what to do next
[08:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:39] <octan> scion, any ideas?
[08:39] <sinpath> thanks guys
[08:39] <scion> octan: ahh nothing much
[08:40] <scion> octan: try a space before and after the \n
[08:40] <Admiral_Chicago> luca_b, i don't think so
[08:40] <abaldwin> back again...
[08:40] <luca_b> Admiral_Chicago: argh
[08:40] <sybux> luca_b: Hi again, I've restarted my session and my koffice is working fine now. I think that after the apt-get, some enviroment variables should have to be set in the session. thx for help
[08:41] <Admiral_Chicago> luca_b, what do you want to do?
[08:41] <luca_b> sybux: good to know!
[08:41] <abaldwin> I reinstalled my fedora install, and succeeded in booting it...I told grub to add kubuntu at hda2, but now, I cant get kubuntu t oboot, why cant I get thse two to play nice?
[08:41] <octan> scion, did that work for you? it didnt for me
[08:41] <luca_b> Admiral_Chicago: I made an image of a burnt CD I have so my friend can test something, but I selected "clone" in the options
[08:42] <luca_b> Admiral_Chicago: I thought it would produce an ISO anyway
[08:42] <Skrot> !msttcorefonts
[08:42] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[08:42] <Skrot> !fonts
[08:42] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[08:42] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[08:42] <scion> octan: to be honest I was judging that on my Java experience, don't know if it would work in x-message
[08:42] <luca_b> Admiral_Chicago: but it's not a big deal if I can't, I'll just rewrite it
[08:42] <scion> octan: does x-message use html by any chance?
[08:43] <scion> octan: i have no idea!
[08:43] <dhq> how do i change my root and user pass
[08:43] <octan> scion i dont know. why you ask that?
[08:43] <dhq> !password
[08:43] <ubotu> Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords
[08:43] <dhq> !sudo
[08:43] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:43] <scion> octan: a simple <br> might do if it parses html
[08:43] <dhq> |lostbyte|:  hello
[08:43] <dhq> fdoving: hello
[08:44] <abattoir> bobesponja: sorry, was afk, glad that you resolved it :)
[08:44] <octan> scion, nop.
[08:44] <octan> test <br> test
[08:44] <abattoir> dhq: you helped yourself ;)
[08:44] <tom_> willis can you help me install the codec package
[08:45] <dhq> abattoir: not yet
[08:45] <abattoir> dhq: btw, 'passwd' is the command...
[08:45] <scion> this
[08:45] <scion> this
[08:45] <tom_> i've downloaded it and made a folder at /usr/local/lib
[08:46] <tom_> i don't understand the point of only giving a little bit of advice when people admit they're helpless
[08:46] <dhq> abattoir: after i do sudo passwd and change the password it still remains the old one
[08:47] <abattoir> dhq: for your user? or the root user?
[08:47] <dhq> root
[08:47] <Dr_willis> tom_,  it could be that i am at work..... and have other things to do.
[08:47] <abattoir> !root
[08:47] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:47] <abattoir> dhq: did you read that page?
[08:47] <Dr_willis> tom_,  i normally track down the w32codec.deb file and install that.
[08:47] <tom_> fair enough, but it's not just you
[08:48] <tom_> yes i've tried that
[08:48] <scion> d
[08:48] <Dr_willis> thats worked for me dozens of times tom_  perhaps thers some other issue going on then.
[08:49] <insanekane> maybe xine doesnt look in /usr/local/lib for the codecs
[08:49] <abattoir> tom_: you must understand that people here are volunteers, if they can help you, most of them will, its just that they might not have seen your question
[08:49] <abaldwin> hello
[08:49] <abaldwin> Im having dificulties trying to dualboot kubu and fedora
[08:49] <abaldwin> I cant seem to get either of them to configure grub to where I can access either
[08:50] <abaldwin> if I install fc first, then kubu, cant boot fedora
[08:50] <Dr_willis> plus about any question here. has been asked and answered in the forums or wiki pages
[08:50] <abaldwin> if I install kubu first, then fc, cant boot kubu
[08:50] <abaldwin> Im in my fc5 install now, attempting to edit grub.conf t oinclude kubu
[08:50] <tom_> i understand people are volunteers, but i've been asking for help on the same thing for a couple of days and people offer solutions but don't follow through on how to implement solutions....
[08:51] <dhq> abattoir: my password file was read only
[08:51] <dec_> is there a package that anyone knows about to create asp pages in ubuntu
[08:51] <tom_> believe me i've searched the forums, and the wiki
[08:51] <tom_> it's not very time efficient
[08:51] <abaldwin> can someone tell me again how to find the proper parameters to enter  for kubu? (ie, kernel init and root)?
[08:51] <dec_> is there a package that anyone knows about to create asp pages in ubuntu
[08:52] <abattoir> dhq: again, for root or for your account? if for root, then i'd expect sudo to give you control over it.... it didnt?
[08:52] <arunkale> dec_: dont think so
[08:52] <dec_> do you know of anything that is close in language
[08:52] <abattoir> abaldwin: do you know the initrd.img and kernel locations(in kubuntu) ?
[08:53] <scion> asp is MS .NET
[08:53] <Admiral_Chicago> abaldwin, whats the problem
[08:53] <abattoir> abaldwin: it generally is in /boot, but i'd need the exact version nos. too
[08:54] <abattoir> abaldwin: sorry, change the 'kernel' location to vmlinuz ;)
[08:54] <abattoir> :)
[08:54] <Dr_willis> tom_,  if youve installed the w32codec package then the stuff should be working.    I have installed the    w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb package.
[08:54] <Dr_willis> tom_,  so are you saying ALL videos fail to work.. or some.. or a specific one?
[08:54] <kyaneos> hi
[08:55] <kyaneos> i have aproblem: kpersonalizer starts everytime i log into kde
[08:55] <Dr_willis> http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/non-free/ is where i got the codec pac from.
[08:56] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis, its in the multiverse i think
[08:56] <abaldwin> I do not know the initrd and kernel locations, thats what I think I need
[08:56] <Dr_willis> Admiral_Chicago,  yea i think it is as well.
[08:56] <abaldwin> I mounted the kubu partition and cded into boot, but ls says theres nothing in there
[08:56] <Dr_willis> !info win32codec
[08:56] <ubotu> Package win32codec does not exist in any distro I know
[08:56] <Dr_willis> !info win32codecs
[08:56] <ubotu> Package win32codecs does not exist in any distro I know
[08:57] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, it is for sure
[08:57] <Dr_willis> w32codecs - win32 binary codecs
[08:57] <kyaneos> can somebody help me?
[08:57] <Admiral_Chicago> kyaneos, whats the problem?
[08:57] <Dr_willis> w32 not win32 :P
[08:58] <kyaneos> Admiral_Chicago: kpersonalizer starts every time i login
[08:58] <scion> kyaneos: sorry do not use kpersonalizer
[08:58] <Admiral_Chicago> do a apt:/ in konqueror
[08:58] <abattoir> kyaneos: yes, that's a know bug, please remove ~/.kde/share/config/kpersonalizerrc
[08:59] <abattoir> abaldwin: really? are you sure?
[08:59] <abaldwin> hello, how do I figure out the paramenters to give grub to add my kubu install?
[08:59] <tom_> no videos are failing, i'm just setting up a fresh install
[08:59] <abaldwin> oh...yeah, I mounted the kubu instll partition and cd-ed to /boot did ls, got nothing
[08:59] <Dr_willis> !info w32codec
[08:59] <ubotu> Package w32codec does not exist in any distro I know
[08:59] <abaldwin> I had fc installe first, then instlled kubu, then couldnt boot to fedora.
[08:59] <Dr_willis> !info w32codecs
[08:59] <Dr_willis> Grr :P
[08:59] <ubotu> w32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In component extras, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (dapper-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB (Only available for i386)
[08:59] <abaldwin> so I reinstalled fedora, and now cant boot kubu
[09:00] <Admiral_Chicago> abaldwin, i think its /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:00] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure
[09:00] <abattoir> abaldwin: do other files exist in the 'kubuntu partition' ?
[09:00] <abaldwin> but the grub entry for kubu looks like it has nothing
[09:00] <Dr_willis> so you should be able to enable the extras repository, and apt-get install w32codecs
[09:00] <abaldwin> oh yeah, I can see verything there, /home, /mnt , /usr,...everything
[09:00] <Admiral_Chicago> abaldwin, check fdisk -l
[09:00] <Admiral_Chicago> might be a different name
[09:00] <tom_> right, i tried this before, but didn't know what to do with the deb
[09:00] <abaldwin> do I enter # check fdisk -1?
[09:01] <abaldwin> Or just do # fdisk -1
[09:01] <abattoir> abaldwin: i dont think you can boot it if you dont have an initrd img or vmlinuz... try searching for it in that partition
[09:01] <lupine_85> l (as in m), surely? not 1 (as in 2)
[09:01] <abaldwin> should be in /boot, shouldnt it?
[09:01] <abaldwin> it was before I reinstalled gc
[09:02] <abaldwin> is there anyone here that has a dualboot with FC andKubu?
[09:02] <abaldwin> it seems like whichever I install last takes over and rewrites grub and disallows or hoses the /boot int he other
[09:03] <abattoir> abaldwin: yes, it should be there, once you find it, you can add an entry for Kubuntu similar to the entry for FC(just modify the appropriate lines, for eg. hd(0,2), if kubuntu is in hda3 etc.)
[09:03] <abattoir> !grub
[09:03] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:03] <abattoir> abaldwin: ^^^ that might also help you
[09:03] <abattoir> abaldwin: i'm surprised that Kubuntu's Grub doesnt conatin an entry for FC5 when you install it
[09:04] <abattoir> abaldwin: i have to go now, so hope that helps...
[09:04] <fdoving> hi.
[09:04] <abattoir> hi fdoving :)
[09:04] <arunkale> ok kids
[09:04] <arunkale> i'm off to bed
[09:04] <fdoving> hi abattoir.
[09:04] <abattoir> arunkale: hah, we've now become the kids? :P
[09:04] <arunkale> hahahaha
[09:05] <abattoir> arunkale: g'night :)
[09:05] <arunkale> good night :)
[09:05] <abattoir> and only Tm_T can call us kids :)
[09:05] <tom_> well i downloaded w32codecs and did sudo dpkg -i was that the right thing to do?
[09:05] <arunkale> i'm just fooling around man
[09:05] <arunkale> heh
[09:05] <arunkale> see ya!
[09:05] <abattoir> as was i :)
[09:05] <Dr_willis> tom_,  thats what ive done in the past.
[09:05] <arunkale> kompose is excellent, btw
[09:05] <abaldwin> kubu didnt even give me an option to add another OS to grub, but fedora does, just, apparently, doesnt add it properly
[09:05] <abaldwin> thanks for your help
[09:06] <Dr_willis> or with the right repos set up. you can just apt-get install it.
[09:07] <tom_> seems to have installed properly
[09:07] <sync00> hey, how do I install a printer on kubuntu.. i can't seem to find a way to do so?
[09:07] <tom_> ended on
[09:07] <tom_> Unpacking w32codecs (from codecs.deb) ...
[09:07] <tom_> Setting up w32codecs (20060611-1plf1) ...
[09:07] <Dr_willis> hot-babe_0.2.2-1plf6.06_i386.deb    :)
[09:08] <Dr_willis> now thats a great program also.
[09:08] <fdoving> tom_, sounds like success :)
[09:08] <fdoving> sync00: system settings -> printers
[09:08] <trappist> Dr_willis: I turned that into a gkrellm plugin once :)
[09:08] <tom_> yes except mp3s are still not playing...
[09:08] <Tm_T> abattoir & kids
[09:08] <Tm_T> ;-P
[09:08] <Dr_willis> hmm w32codecs dont have to do with mp3's as far as i can rember...
[09:08] <Dr_willis> they are the video codecs.
[09:08] <tom_> oh ffs
[09:08] <Dr_willis> !mp3
[09:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:09] <tom_> right thanks for trying to help but i didn't say i was trying to install video codecs
[09:09] <Dr_willis> Hmm they need to tweak the urls a but in the bots info.
[09:09] <sync00> fdoving: what if printers isn't there?
[09:09] <fdoving> tom_, are you looking for mp3 support?
[09:09] <tom_> yes
[09:09] <kkathman> Dr_willis:  is that the chess program?
[09:09] <scion> tom_: libxine-extracodecs
[09:09] <fdoving> tom_ http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s
[09:09] <Dr_willis> actually i think the mp3 support is part of the gstreamer files.
[09:09] <trappist> Dr_willis: http://linuxkungfu.org/files/src/gkrellhotbabe-0.1.tar.bz2
[09:09] <trappist> Dr_willis: if you use gkrellm
[09:09] <fdoving> Dr_willis: not on dapper, for breezy that is true.
[09:10] <tom_> i've tried installing libxine-extracodecs before
[09:10] <tom_> i get
[09:10] <tom_> Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:11] <fdoving> tom_, then enable multiverse.
[09:11] <tom_> i have, as far as i can see
[09:11] <fdoving> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:11] <ubuntu> habe ein problem mit meinem linksys-router wer kann mir helfen
[09:11] <fdoving> !de
[09:11] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:12] <abaldwin> please....does anyone know how I cn dual boot kubuntu and fedora?  each attempt has fail.  whichever I install last takes over grub and doesnt allow te other
[09:12] <scion> ok lads i have a question
[09:12] <abaldwin> when I edited grub from kubu attempt to boot fedora gave kernel panic, reinstalled fedora, now cant boot kubu
[09:13] <sinpath> ok i followed out the restricted formats intel & still i the format i try to use is unavelble
[09:13] <scion> anyone know how to get the middle button of my mouse working?
[09:13] <scion> i have a three button sun microsystems mouse
[09:13] <scion> and its usb
[09:13] <abaldwin> all I can find online is how to dualboot linux and windows.  I, just trying to dual boot 2 linux distros
[09:13] <Dr_willis> trappist,  woot... anime-porn-cpu-monitors rule. :P
[09:14] <ubuntu> habe nach kubuntu installation kein Internet zugang und kann auch nicht mehr auf den Router zugreifen
[09:14] <lupine_85> !anime-porn-cpu-monitors
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anime-porn-cpu-monitors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <Dr_willis> abaldwin,  you need to create the correct grub stanza to boot the other os then.
[09:14] <lupine_85> :'(
[09:14] <BonBonTheJon> how do i merge kopete logs
[09:14] <Dr_willis> tom_,  dont forget to 'sudo apt-get update' to rescan the repo lists after altering the repos.
[09:15] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. now how to get gkrellm to go into a kde panel nicely
[09:15] <abaldwin> first I install fc then kunu, couldnt boot fc, edited menu.lst, tried to boot fc got kernel panich
[09:16] <abaldwin> now, reinstlld fc, attempt to boot kubu gives entry not found, presently attempting to edit grub.conf to include kubu, but cant find the kernel and init parameters to give grub
[09:18] <abaldwin> I mounted the kubu partition and cd-ed to /boot, and cant find anything, now
[09:18] <BonBonTheJon> where would I find information about how kopete keeps its logs
[09:18] <cbo> does someone know how to make a legacy midi joystick work with kubuntu?
[09:19] <LockUp> Has Ubuntu standard KDE-control panel?
[09:19] <LockUp> *Kubuntu
[09:19] <tom_> somehow i enabled universe but neglected to uncomment multiverse
[09:19] <tom_> apt-get updating now
[09:19] <fdoving> LockUp: yes, but it's hidden by default. alt+f2 type 'kcontrol' and run.
[09:20] <tom_> still running slowly though
[09:20] <LockUp> Hidden? :o it isn't good idea
[09:20] <LockUp> It should be in menu. :)
[09:20] <altair_> does anyone play RTS games in kubuntu?, suggestions?
[09:20] <tom_> do i have to wait for apt-get update to finish before i can install things from the console?
[09:21] <scion> anyone help me with a 3 button mouse?
[09:23] <scion> anyone?
[09:23] <Dr_willis> scion,  what is it not doing? just not working?
[09:23] <fdoving> should work out of the box afaik.
[09:24] <cbo> does someone know how to make a legacy midi joystick work with kubuntu?
[09:24] <fdoving> haven't setup a mouse since.. years ago.
[09:24] <scion> fdoving: it works except the middle button
[09:25] <scion> fdoving: i want to be able to hold middle button and move up/down or left/right and firefox or any other windows scrollbars move in that direction also... if you catch my drift?
[09:25] <fdoving> scion: understand.. hang on.. connecting a usb mouse.
[09:26] <Hawkwind> Wasn't there a big discussion about that being added to Edgy in firefox in a meeting a week or two ago ?
[09:26] <scion> fdoving: cheers and it does not have a wheel, got it free at a java programmers conference and really like it
[09:28] <fdoving> scion: cool, get one for me too, mine says "microsoft"  :|
[09:28] <mrbrdo> scion: dunno if this helps, but i know logitech drivers do that on windows :P
[09:28] <scion> hehe, fdoving if i can i'll let you know... for real
[09:28] <fdoving> does this feature hava a name? click and drag for scrolling?
[09:29] <sinpath> hey does any one know about the grip (cd ripper)
[09:29] <fdoving> scion: great, thanks in advance :)
[09:29] <main2> how do i install this .deb on my machine.. http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Funiverse%2Fv%2Fvlc%2Fvlc_0.8.6-svn20060823.debian-3ubuntu1_i386.deb&md5sum=091eb72056b2b319dc3a31ac3ba5707f&arch=i386&type=main ???
[09:29] <scion> fdoving: i do not know, tried googling but eventually gave up
[09:29] <zorglu_> main2: get it thru the repository ?
[09:29] <scion> main2: download the file to desktop
[09:29] <scion> main2: cd ~/desktop
[09:30] <main2> scion: done, but then it leaves me with a lot of 'unfullfilled dependencies'
[09:30] <scion> main2: dpkg -i nameoffile.deb
[09:30] <main2> dpkg -i name.deb ... >>
[09:30] <main2> vlc depends on libasound2 (>> 1.0.11); however:
[09:30] <main2>   Version of libasound2 on system is 1.0.10-2ubuntu4.
[09:30] <sinpath> can any one tell me how good grip works for linuxs?
[09:30] <main2> and this for a lot more packages
[09:30] <scion> main2: well its better done using Adept, that collects dependencies required
[09:31] <zorglu_> main2: you should use the repository with adept/apt-get and not download it directly
[09:31] <main2> scion: yes, but i need this version
[09:31] <fdoving> scion: what programs does have this click and hold to scroll feature?
[09:31] <main2> the 0.8.4 in the dapper repository is 'damaged' lets say
[09:32] <scion> fdoving: many, an example would be a firefox window
[09:32] <main2> zorglu_: well, if i knew how to install this package trough adept....
[09:32] <scion> main2: whats so special about an older version of vlc player?
[09:33] <main2> scion 0.8.4 has problems with h264
[09:34] <fdoving> scion: my firefox doesn't do that, is it a extension or addon or something?
[09:35] <zorglu_> main2: ok if you want to install by hand, even if it is clearly much harder than using repository, the process in itself is quite simple, install yourself all the dependencies
[09:35] <scion> fdoving: another example would be viewing a large image at full size where there are both horizontal and vertical scrollbars
[09:35] <main2> zorglu_: that will take days
[09:36] <main2> because the deps of those deps can have deps ;)
[09:36] <zorglu_> main2: yep, but you said you wanted to do it :)
[09:36] <main2> did i?
[09:38] <zorglu_> main2: yes :) the point is how bad you want this ? do you want to do yourself the job usually done by people contributing ? or to wait for them to do it ?
[09:38] <sinpath> when some one is talking about gnome is that like linux to?
[09:39] <kkathman> sinpath:  yes, just a different desktop gui
[09:39] <sinpath> ok so if i get a prog for gnome it should work with what i have?
[09:40] <zorglu_> sinpath: yes, you can run kde or gnome programm on kubuntu
[09:40] <kkathman> sinpath:  depend on if you have the gnome dependencies installed
[09:41] <kkathman> and vice versa of course
[09:41] <sinpath> oh good cause  i was thinking of getting grip but said i had to have The Gnome2 desktop
[09:42] <zorglu_> grip is the normal 'side' of the kde 'k3b' ... to simplify :)
[09:42] <zorglu_> in theory you dont need the whole gnome-desktop for that
[09:42] <sinpath>  gnome dependencies installed ?
[09:43] <sinpath> ok so what do i need then?
[09:43] <zorglu_> only the libraries.. it is a 'bogus package' aka it went a bit too wide on the dependency
[09:43] <moparisthebest> on the command line, how can you show your RAM usage?
[09:43] <zorglu_> sinpath: you need the library on which grip depends
[09:44] <zorglu_> moparisthebest: type "free"
[09:44] <sinpath> ok were would i find that intel?
[09:44] <moparisthebest> thank you zorglu_ :)
[09:44] <Hawkwind> moparisthebest: free -m is a bit more human readable if you prefer :)
[09:45] <moparisthebest> ok, thanks
[09:45] <zorglu_> well not that much better :)
[09:45] <moparisthebest> It rounds them off at the mb level :)
[09:45] <Hawkwind> zorglu_: Easier to understand atleast
[09:49] <ronnylinux> hi guys i really want solve this problem
[09:49] <sinpath> whats the problem?
[09:49] <ronnylinux> i got this error
[09:49] <ronnylinux> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[09:49] <ronnylinux> how can i solve this
[09:50] <pure_morning> hi
[09:51] <sinpath> ok go to k> system>adept> hit get updates
[09:52] <ronnylinux> sinpath the message continues
[09:52] <ronnylinux> i found in forums that i have a problem with source.list
[09:52] <scion> any luck fdoving
[09:53] <sinpath> humm i dont know what else to tell you
[09:53] <ronnylinux> thanks anyway
[09:54] <sinpath> np keep asking im sure another person can help
[09:54] <ronnylinux> sure
[09:54] <ronnylinux> i got this error, does anybody can help me: The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[09:55] <steveire> Is there a handy app to help me make simple html webpages? Preferable a kde app.
[09:55] <fdoving> scion: no, trying to find out what this feature is called.
[09:56] <hemerson> one site for themes kubuntu?
[09:56] <sinpath> google it
[09:56] <sinpath> hemerson
[09:56] <Dr_willis> theres a lot of kde themes in the repos - not isntalled by default as well
[09:56] <hemerson> :(
[09:56] <hemerson> one site specific
[09:57] <sinpath> >.< ya i have a hard time finding desktops lol
[09:58] <tdog> HI.. I need to install window on same system as linux . would it be better to install window first , then install linux ?
[10:01] <fdoving> scion: ok, i have something. try editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the mouse section, add: Option "EmulateWheel" "true" and  Option "EmulateWheelButton" "2"
[10:01] <Dr_willis> tdog,  windows first, then ubuntu
[10:01] <nagyv> if I can listen to radio on my mobile, and have a data cable, then is there a way to listen to the radio with my laptop connected to the mobile?
[10:02] <altair_> tdog: install windows first, then linux
[10:02] <simo> #italia
[10:02] <simo> ce qualche italiano??
[10:03] <nagyv> !it > simo
[10:03] <fdoving> scion: like this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25826.html
[10:03] <nagyv> !hu > nagyv
[10:03] <fdoving> scion: be aware that pasting with the middle mousebutton will be disabled. you'll have to use left and right at the same time to paste.
[10:04] <fdoving> !no > fdoving
[10:05] <event> hi all
[10:05] <event> who me make download icons theme?
[10:05] <scion> fdoving: thank you
[10:05] <nagyv> event: you can get them in the system settings, where you can select the icon theme
[10:05] <scion> you want new icons event?
[10:05] <ronnylinux> i got this error, does anybody can help me: The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[10:06] <event> scion yes man
[10:06] <event> news icons theme
[10:06] <nagyv> event: you can get them in the system settings, where you can select the icon theme
[10:06] <scion> event: http://www.kde-look.org is a good place for icons
[10:06] <nagyv> ronnylinux: then try running sudo apt-get update ;)
[10:06] <event> scion i have started download but the file is .tar.gz :\ its not .thmee
[10:06] <scion> event: that is ok
[10:07] <event> but .tar.gz its not acepted :\
[10:07] <ronnylinux> nagyv i tried that, but the problem continue
[10:07] <scion> event: give me the link to the iconset
[10:08] <event> man anyone icon theme in this site its .tar.gz :\
[10:08] <supertanker> Just out of curisosity
[10:08] <supertanker> WHY the heck doesn't Kubuntu come with make?
[10:08] <event> lol
[10:08] <lupine_85> it does :D
[10:09] <Dr_willis> normal user/desktop system does not need the gcc compiler system  :P
[10:09] <supertanker> seriously
[10:09] <event> scion u have icons themes?
[10:09] <lupine_85> just not installed by default
[10:09] <scion> event go to system settings>appearence>icons and press install new theme button, then point to the gzipped tarball you downloaded
[10:09] <fdoving> supertanker: regular desktop-users doesn't need it. and those who need it know how to get it.
[10:09] <Dr_willis> its trivial to isntall build-essential
[10:09] <supertanker> Not when all the packages are in the virtual group
[10:09] <lupine_85> personally, I'd be a bit annoyed if kubuntu-desktop depended on the whole repo
[10:09] <nagyv> supertanker: because it's a user friendly linux. Have you ever built anything under windows?
[10:09] <supertanker> yes.
[10:09] <Dr_willis> and if you are going to have that installed.. then where do you stop? how abou all the -dev packages...
[10:09] <supertanker> BZFlag-2.0.4
[10:09] <lupine_85> it's good fun, wot? ;)
[10:09] <scion> event: its not a theme, its an iconset
[10:09] <event> man
[10:10] <event> in program i cant see the button :\
[10:10] <supertanker> so is there any way to get it to install it by default?
[10:10] <Dr_willis> a theme is often composed of servarl parts. an icon set, window decoration, and.. err somting else..
[10:10] <Dr_willis> brbl
[10:10] <scion> event: i will post a screenshot
[10:10] <poseidon> How can I get transluceny/shadows?
[10:10] <sinpath> ok guys how do install java?
[10:10] <supertanker> why is everything in the virtual group?
[10:10] <event> scion ok thkx
[10:11] <main2> could anyone tell me what the latest available version is of VLC in the multiverse?
[10:11] <event> scion after, give me a link on pvt ok?
[10:11] <main2> of dapper offcial repos.
[10:11] <nickv111> I don't understand this: my kaffeine can't play any media, while mplayer can
[10:11] <lupine_85> !info vlc dapper
[10:11] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[10:11] <nickv111> For example, I gave kaffeine a .avi that it can't play, but mplayer can play it
[10:11] <nickv111> Every time I give kaffeine a file, it's unable to play it, while mplayer has no problem
[10:11] <ronnylinux>  i got this error, does anybody can help me: The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[10:12] <supertanker> I have to say, the entire apt system leaves a bit to be desired
[10:12] <lostwars> Did you try to run update?
[10:12] <event> scion in momment u upload screen?
[10:12] <sinpath> i already told him & he still gets it
[10:13] <scion> event: be patient
[10:13] <ryanakca> fdoving: ping
[10:13] <event> ok ty
[10:13] <scion> event: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24703
[10:13] <event> brb smook
[10:13] <ronnylinux> yes i tried losstwars the problem continue
[10:13] <event> ty
[10:14] <lostwars> Well don't feel bad. Someone here knows what to do. Heck I can't even get gkrellm to start when I boot my system.
[10:14] <lostwars> Whats the name of the file where I can make a program run at KDE start-up?
[10:14] <event> man
[10:14] <event> :\
[10:14] <ronnylinux> i don't want to reinstall kubuntu, in some forums i read this is a serious problem
[10:14] <ronnylinux> who can help me?
[10:14] <event> scion: i know install de theme but the file is not .theme :\ its a .tar.gz
[10:15] <sinpath> if arunkale was on he could
[10:16] <nagyv> ronnylinux: try also the #ubuntu channel
[10:16] <sinpath> does  any one know how i can install java?
[10:16] <scion> event: one second, go have your smoke and i will have an answer for you
[10:17] <fdoving> ryanakca: ack.
[10:17] <altair_> steveire: you can try nvu or quanta plus, though you can even write webpages in a simple editor:  kwrite and kate are good.
[10:17] <event> scion back
[10:18] <scion> event I took down a file called SnowIsh-kde-1.3_build.tar.bz2
[10:18] <scion> event: that installed fine for me the way I told you
[10:18] <event> :X
[10:18] <steveire> I've got quanta now altair_, yeah, looks like the business. It's a lot to get into by the look of it though. I think I'll just need to read about tables and use KAte
[10:18] <event> w8 please
[10:19] <steveire> altair_: Have you used Quanta
[10:19] <steveire> ?
[10:19] <steveire> I can't seem to find any preview of the page I make.
[10:19] <event> scion my icons are http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=44609
[10:19] <event> i downloaded
[10:20] <scion> downloading now
[10:20] <altair_> steveire: yup, though i prefer a simple editor and good reference for hatm and css
[10:20] <event> ok w8
[10:20] <altair_> html i meant
[10:21] <ronnylinux> i got this error, does anybody can help me: The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[10:21] <scion> event: except when i click download button it opens an image
[10:21] <event> yes
[10:21] <event> lol
[10:21] <event> i download others icons
[10:21] <event> w8
[10:22] <scion> wheres the tar.qzip
[10:22] <aztun> ronnylinux: look at your processes and kill everything related to apt or adept
[10:22] <scion> *gzip
[10:22] <event> done
[10:22] <event> scion http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=38707
[10:22] <aztun> or reboot your computer
[10:22] <event> i downloaded that
[10:22] <event> name of the file is 38707-Plasti-K-beta-icon-theme-0.000.b.30.tar
[10:22] <sinpath> ronnylinux try the #ubuntu channel for more intel on your problem
[10:22] <event> now i install new theme icons and i cant :X
[10:23] <altair_> steveire:  usually visual editors get in the way of good html code, i highly recommend getting a good grasp of html and css first
[10:23] <steveire> I don't intend to be a pro at this stuff, but yeah, I'll have a look at some html stuff.
[10:24] <altair_> steveire: doing that, any editor with sixtax highlight suffices
[10:25] <steveire> Well, quanta has code completion and suggestion too, which is a big plus in my book.
[10:25] <scion> event: sorry, can't help its a messed up prob you got there
[10:25] <altair_> steveire:  yup, it's ok
[10:26] <Buffy-_> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=34188
[10:26] <event> ok ty anyone
[10:29] <altair_> steveire:  www.w3schools.com, www.csszengarden.com   are good references
[10:30] <nagyv> I think that my laptop has a TV-tuner card, but I don't know wheather it is recognized. How could I check it? (Asus a2500d)
[10:30] <altair_> steveire: I suggest getting the web developer extension in firefox too, it's a big help
[10:30] <scion> steveire: i use kate to write the code and firefox to preview
[10:31] <altair_> scion: me too
[10:31] <nickv111> nagyv: What makes you think that you have a TV tuner card?
[10:32] <steveire> Oh, I have a web developer set up for firefox already. I've learned heaps of javascript. I used Kate for that of course. I'd just like an easy way to have my tables set out for me and to preview the resulting html in real time. No substitute for w3schooling though I know.
[10:32] <nagyv> nickv111: there is a a tv-like icon near one of the ports
[10:32] <scion> altair_: its the only way to be, WYSWYG editors destroy your code
[10:33] <marcelloDoItBeTt> ciao
[10:33] <marcelloDoItBeTt> ho bisogno d'aiuto...
[10:33] <nagyv> steveire: as I know nvu is very wysiwyg, but I have never used it
[10:33] <nickv111> marcelloDoItBeTt: Adios
[10:33] <nagyv> marcelloDoItBeTt: !it
[10:33] <nagyv> !it
[10:33] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:33] <altair_> scion: totally agree
[10:34] <steveire> nagyv: I assume there's some wysiwyg stuff in quanta, but it's a bit hidden to me...
[10:34] <nickv111> Perhaps this is an opportunity to brush up on my Spanish skills ;)
[10:34] <nagyv> steveire: I don't know, I code tables by hand too :)
[10:35] <nagyv> nickv111: noooo, help me with my tv-card! :)
[10:35] <nickv111> nagyv: L'see
[10:35] <nickv111> nagyv: Hmm. I don't know where to begin. I suppose an "lspci" would be in order
[10:36] <nagyv> nickv111: and what should I look for?
[10:37] <altair_> steveire:  last time iI used quanta it didn't have any visual edition but thats better, wysiwyg gets in the way in the long term
[10:38] <tolkan> DOes anyone know how to stop the kwallet
[10:38] <tolkan> from asking all those damn passwords everytime i startup?
[10:38] <Dr_willis> look in the kwallet settings...
[10:38] <Dr_willis> it has an abundance of options
[10:38] <steveire> altair_: wysiwyg isn't even that important to me. I'd just like to avoid Save file > alt-tab to ff > f5 to see result of updates. If I could display what I was doing in an ide, tat would be better. I'm not above learning how to do it properly. I just want to see the result where I'm working.
[10:39] <steveire> s/tat/that
[10:39] <tolkan> Dr_willis: yes i have done that.  the options arent working.  when my K session starts up, the first application that wants to use the wallet asks me for my wallet password.  Then every application after that does not.  H
[10:39] <nagyv> nickv111: I have only a TV-out :(
[10:40] <event> scion are u there?
[10:41] <nagyv> tolkan: actually this is kwallet is for, as far as I know
[10:41] <juanlinares79> hi!someone knows how to install mac/ubuntu/windows into a pc amd athlon?
[10:41] <tolkan> nagyv: is there a way to bind kwallet to authenticate when i logon through KDM?
[10:42] <event> i try install a theme to linux, i see the install.txt file and i write in console ./configure but error ocurred:
[10:42] <event> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[10:42] <event> See `config.log' for more details.
[10:42] <event> somebody help me?
[10:42] <altair_> steveire:  oh well, i just got used to doing things that way long time ago..
[10:43] <tolkan> event: do apt-get install build-essential
[10:43] <tolkan> event: that will install compilers so you can build stuff on your installation
[10:43] <altair_> steveire:  so l got less dependent on a particular tool
[10:44] <event> tolkan who me identify root?
[10:44] <fdoving> scion: if you want this scrolling feature in konqueror; inside konq -> settings -> configure konqueror -> uncheck "middle click opens selected web address"
[10:45] <event> tolkan do u know?
[10:45] <tolkan> event: you'll have to do install as root.  if thats what you mean.
[10:45] <event> but who me identify a root?
[10:45] <troy> event: use your regular password in 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[10:46] <event> sudo ?
[10:46] <event> ah
[10:46] <event> ty
[10:46] <event> and sorry my english, im portuguese :P
[10:46] <troy> event: no problem :)
[10:46] <event> ty ;p
[10:47] <nickv111> If only everyone could learn Esperanto
[10:49] <troy> nickv111: klingon is better :)
[10:49] <nagyv> how can I configure irda on my laptop? (asus a2500d)
[10:50] <mikefoo> Ok so I have a NAS device mounted and dd reports that I copied 1G of data at 290MB/sec over a gigabit link, isn't the max 80MB/sec'ish ?
[10:50] <scion> thanks fdoving
[10:51] <zorglu_> mikefoo: linux is fast :) or morelikely it is not yet flushed ?
[10:51] <troy> mikefoo: sure it isn't Mb instead of MB?
[10:51] <Buffy-_> thats megabit
[10:51] <Buffy-_> MB Byte, Mb bit
[10:52] <lupine_85> and Mn nibble :p
[10:52] <Buffy-_> FA
[10:52] <steveire> altair_, nagyv: Not sure if you're interested, but I had another look at quanta, and it previews if you press f6.
[10:52] <zorglu_> it is why i always say mbit or mbyte instead to avoid such confusion :)
[10:52] <nagyv> steveire: thx, but not really :)
[10:53] <steveire> hehe
[10:53] <Buffy-_> not a bad idea, but i would have thought that those that dont know the difference between MB and Mb would also not know the difference between mbit and mbyte
[10:54] <event> troy do u know me install amule?
[10:54] <zorglu_> i do that mainly because i never remember which abreviation representes which unit :)
[10:54] <troy> event: nope, I use ktorrent
[10:54] <event> ty
[10:54] <event> somebody knows?
[10:54] <altair_> steveire: thank you for the tip.
[10:54] <event> danke
[10:55] <pete> How do I add support for .wmv?
[10:55] <lupine_85> !plf
[10:55] <zorglu_> !restricted
[10:55] <ubotu> plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[10:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:55] <lupine_85> !w32codecs
[10:55] <pete> Thanks =)
[10:55] <JonTec__> can I make a Shared Documents folder on the network for my linux computer (it's one of those low level "home or small office networks")
[10:55] <troy> I don't recommend plf unless nothing else works...
[10:55] <Buffy-_> !beer
[10:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:55] <supertanker> I convert all mine to .flac or .ogg
[10:56] <Buffy-_> !birds and the bees
[10:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about birds and the bees - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:56] <Buffy-_> had to do it
[10:56] <Buffy-_> lool
[10:56] <pete> haha
[10:56] <Buffy-_> needed a "the" in there
[10:56] <JonTec__> !libxine-extracodecs
[10:56] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[10:57] <troy> hahaha, you'd likely run out of space :)
[10:57] <JonTec__> !yo mamma
[10:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yo mamma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:57] <lupine_85> You'd need to use \*
[10:57] <JonTec__> ahaha
[10:57] <Buffy-_> :D
[10:57] <pete> haha
[10:57] <lupine_85> !botsnack
[10:57] <ubotu> Yum!
[10:58] <Buffy-_> !spam
[10:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:58] <Buffy-_> oh
[10:58] <troy> pete: well, the dapper->edgy conversion is something like 966 files for me, at 700MB... so considering there's some several thousand packages in the system...
[10:58] <pete> !women
[10:58] <ubotu> The women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.
[10:58] <pete> Gah
[10:58] <pete> That didn't work as expected -_-
[10:58] <supertanker> lol
[10:58] <pete> troy: Yeah. My box would probably blow up =P
[10:59] <poseidon> !men
[10:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about men - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:59] <Buffy-_> lol
[10:59] <troy> some op should put a gereral ban on this channel for people that IRC as root
[11:00] <pete> !bathing
[11:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bathing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:00] <pete> We should probably stop this now =P
[11:00] <pete> Yeah, my bad.
[11:01] <Buffy-_> fun while it lasted
[11:01] <altair_> !easyubuntu
[11:01] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[11:01] <zorglu_> !men
[11:01] <altair_> !vlc
[11:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about men - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:01] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:02] <altair_> you can use easyubuntu or videlolan vlc to add support for wmv
[11:03] <draik> Hello everyone
[11:04] <m3xican> !apache
[11:04] <ubotu> offically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)
[11:04] <dek> where are .sh scripts located?
[11:05] <draik> If I have i686 installed/running, but still have the linux-module-386 not being upgraded or such, what do I do to remove it from my list of pending upgrades? Or what happens if I were to install it?
[11:08] <fleissigfiona> is there a way to save your session status so that some programs in certain desktops will come up automatically when you start up
[11:09] <draik> fleissigfiona, create a link to them under  ~/.kde/Autostart/
[11:10] <troy> fleissigfiona: and if you want to give them parameters, like which desktop to autostart on, lauch them with kstart instead of directly
[11:16] <supertanker> is there a text-based installer for Kubuntu that doesn't involve me downloading a CD on dialup?
[11:17] <supertanker> for Kubuntu 6.06?
[11:17] <TheGateKeeper> supertanker: the only text installer I know is the alternate CD
[11:17] <supertanker> that sucks
[11:18] <fleissigfiona> troy: where is kstart?
[11:19] <poseidon> "whereis kstart"
[11:19] <supertanker> logical
[11:20] <fleissigfiona> whereis kstart
[11:20] <TheGateKeeper> supertanker: not sure what ubuntu send you in the post, but you can linux install CD's, various web sites do it
[11:20] <fleissigfiona> ?
[11:20] <zorglu_> wow just spotted a japanese box trying to crack mine
[11:20] <draik> fleissigfiona, in Konsole
[11:20] <lupine_85> in terminal :)
[11:20] <fleissigfiona> oh ahah
[11:20] <troy> kstart is a command line program that can be used to launch other programs
[11:20] <m3xican> !dosfsck
[11:20] <fleissigfiona> yes just worked that out
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dosfsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <fleissigfiona> good
[11:20] <lupine_85> fsck.vfat
[11:21] <troy> it accepts parameters to specify desktop #, size, etc.
[11:21] <lupine_85> zorglu_: I get a lot from Russia
[11:21] <lupine_85> rsa++
[11:21] <menace> when i try to open adept, it says its already running, but its not, is there a way to fix this?
[11:22] <poseidon> zorglu_: how can you tell?
[11:22] <zorglu_> lupine_85: mine is rather unskilled, dictionnary attack on ssh. but what worry me is how does it get on my sshd, aka thru the firewall
[11:22] <lupine_85> zorglu_: ipv6 ?
[11:22] <zorglu_> poseidon: weird traffic and then /var/log/auth.log
[11:22] <TheGateKeeper> menace: sudo killall adept
[11:23] <menace> thegatekeeper: it says no process killed
[11:24] <TheGateKeeper> menace: you clicking on the menu item?
[11:24] <menace> yes
[11:24] <menace> and the box pops up and asks for my password
[11:25] <ahmad_> how to disable the root account? i had enabled it
[11:25] <menace> You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one
[11:25] <menace> thats my error
[11:25] <TheGateKeeper> so put your password in and press ok
[11:25] <menace> i got that error though ^^^
[11:26] <menace> this just started a few days ago....
[11:27] <luca_b> menace: sudo killall adept_updater
[11:27] <TheGateKeeper> menace: logging off & logging on does not sort it?
[11:27] <troy> ahmad_: sudo passwd -l root
[11:27] <menace> no, ive tried that gate keeper
[11:28] <menace> luca_b:adept_updater: no process killed
[11:28] <TheGateKeeper> try luca_b suggestion
[11:28] <luca_b> menace: hmmm
[11:28] <ahmad_> ok troy... thnx
[11:28] <luca_b> menace: execute sudo apt-get update on the terminal
[11:29] <luca_b> menace: (I need to check which file is in use)
[11:29] <TheGateKeeper> menace: now for the sledge hammer: sudo rm -f <--- try if locked
[11:29] <menace> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[11:29] <luca_b> ok
[11:29] <luca_b> menace: just do that
[11:29] <menace> the "sudo rm -f" thing?
[11:29] <luca_b> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:29] <menace> ok
[11:29] <fdoving> !adept crash fix
[11:29] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this command in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock'
[11:29] <TheGateKeeper> menace: no
[11:29] <fdoving> menace: ^^
[11:29] <menace> ... too many things
[11:29] <menace> which one?
[11:29] <fdoving> mine.
[11:29] <fdoving> :)
[11:29] <luca_b> fdoving: that was the thing!
[11:30] <luca_b> fdoving: I forgot about the lock
[11:30] <TheGateKeeper> menace: you have broken packages you need to fix them before going further, do what it says in the error message
[11:32] <menace> i did the dpkg thing,
[11:32] <menace> and i go this errror
[11:32] <ukjadoon> hello all
[11:33] <menace> Setting up lkl (0.1.1-1) ...
[11:33] <menace> Setting up flashplugin-nonfree (7.0.68~ubuntu1~dapper1) ...
[11:33] <menace> Downloading...  done.
[11:33] <menace> usage: update-rc.d [-n]  [-f]  <basename> remove
[11:33] <menace>        update-rc.d [-n]  <basename> defaults [NN | sNN kNN] 
[11:33] <menace>        update-rc.d [-n]  <basename> start|stop NN runlvl [runlvl]  [...]  .
[11:33] <menace>                 -n: not really
[11:33] <fdoving> menace: please don't paste in the channel
[11:33] <menace>                 -f: force
[11:33] <fdoving> !pastebiun
[11:33] <menace> dpkg: error processing flashplugin-nonfree (--configure):
[11:33] <fdoving> !pastebin
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebiun - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:33] <menace>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[11:33] <menace> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:33] <menace>  flashplugin-nonfree
[11:33] <menace> wow i didnt think it'd do that....
[11:33] <menace> sorry
[11:33] <menace> yes sorry
[11:33] <ukjadoon> i tried the ubuntu forum but i guess everyone's kinda busy there i needed heeeeeeeeelp my kubuntu as well as ubunty 6.06 setup hangs up at the mounting root screen and it is getting on my nervers =(
[11:34] <TheGateKeeper> menace: can you uninstall the flash plugin?
[11:34] <luca_b> menace: that's a known issue
[11:34] <ukjadoon> i tried removing one of my 2 dvd drives, i tried adding the root= command as well as the irqpoll command but nothing works it just doesn't get past that
[11:34] <menace> how could i do it?
[11:34] <luca_b> menace: if you know enough of the command line, you can fix it
[11:35] <ukjadoon> i am so pissed i just got my shipment of the cds today and nothing works #$%#$%^#$%
[11:35] <luca_b> menace: let's try this
[11:35] <luca_b> hey zorglu_
[11:35] <zorglu_> hey
[11:35] <menace> k sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree?
[11:35] <luca_b> menace:no
[11:35] <luca_b> menace: do a sudo cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.postinst
[11:35] <luca_b> er
[11:35] <luca_b> wait, forgot a part
[11:35] <menace> ok
[11:35] <zorglu_> luca_b: my isp updated remotly by asdl modem and fails to tell me he removed the firewall conf
[11:36] <luca_b>  cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.postinst  | grep multiuser
[11:36] <TheGateKeeper> luca_b: he want rid of the damn thing
[11:36] <luca_b> zorglu_: erf
[11:36] <zorglu_> for the last 8days i had people trying to guess my passwd
[11:36] <luca_b> TheGateKeeper: that is just a bug in the post-install script
[11:36] <troy> so far edgy update is running smoothly...
[11:36] <TheGateKeeper> luca_b: you found a workaround?
[11:37] <luca_b> TheGateKeeper: yeah
[11:37] <menace> update-rc.d flashplugin-nonfree multiuser >/dev/null
[11:37] <menace> thats good?
[11:37] <luca_b> yes so
[11:37] <ukjadoon> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i guess there is no workaround for the dapper 6.06 mounting root problem :(
[11:37] <luca_b> do this
[11:37] <luca_b> onbe sec
[11:38] <TheGateKeeper> luca_b: you posted this workaround anywhere?, I removed it and installed a debian one
[11:38] <luca_b> sudo sed -i -e 's/multiuser/defaults/g' /var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.postinst
[11:38] <menace> i do that?
[11:38] <luca_b> yes
[11:38] <luca_b> TheGateKeeper: just told that around here
[11:39] <luca_b> after executing that command, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-nonfree
[11:39] <altair_> !lamp
[11:39] <ubotu> offically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)
[11:40] <luca_b> it's just a "typo" in the post-installation script
[11:40] <menace>         /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: flashplugin-nonfree is broken or not fully installed
[11:40] <luca_b> hmm
[11:40] <luca_b> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:41] <menace> ok it re downloaded
[11:41] <menace> now what
[11:41] <luca_b> it gave you a prompt? no more errors?
[11:41] <menace> yes
[11:41] <luca_b> fixed
[11:41] <menace> thank you very much
[11:41] <menace> was it just that my flash plugin went corrupt?
[11:41] <luca_b> menace: yes
[11:41] <menace> ok
[11:42] <luca_b> menace: not corrupted, jyust a typo in the script that went unnoticed
[11:42] <menace> ok
[11:42] <menace> all is working fine
[11:42] <menace> thanks luca
[11:42] <luca_b> Is there a place where I could put this thing up? I believe thsi affected many
[11:42] <Electrolyte> Wow, that was the first time I've ever seen nano crash, and use 100% CPU in the background.
[11:44] <menace> adept is wanting to upgrade my flashplugin now...should i go ahead and update it?
[11:44] <luca_b> menace: yes, that fixes the problem you workarounded at the root
[11:44] <TheGateKeeper> luca_b: well hope you don't mind, I have put it on my page of bits & bobs: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home2
[11:44] <menace> ok
[11:44] <luca_b> TheGateKeeper: go ahead, it's no problem
[11:45] <luca_b> One could have just edited the file, but I wanted to use some shell magic 8P
[11:45] <TheGateKeeper> luca_b: thanx, don't know if anyone will visit it, but at least it's there :-)
[11:46] <menace> whats the URL gatekeeper?
[11:46] <TheGateKeeper> luca_b: do you know if the firefox updates are safe to do?
[11:46] <TheGateKeeper> menace: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home2
[11:46] <menace> k
[11:47] <luca_b> TheGateKeeper: usually yes
[11:47] <TheGateKeeper> menace: it's just my collection of bits & pieces I have found usefull
[11:47] <luca_b> TheGateKeeper: updated without problem here
[11:47] <menace> nice
[11:48] <ukjadoon> i can't get past the mounting root... thingy, both in ubuntu and kubuntu, someone please help me =( i cannot proceed to install ubuntu or kubuntu 6.06 cause of this
[11:48] <TheGateKeeper> luca_b: right thanx, I don't trust them anymore after this flash problem & the X problem, so I ask now :-)
[11:48] <luca_b> TheGateKeeper: other distros have far worse packaging problems, I'd say
[11:48] <TheGateKeeper> menace: hope you find it usefull
[11:48] <menace> yes i do
[11:48] <luca_b> ukjadoon: what is the error you get when mounting?
[11:49] <ukjadoon> well thank u so much for listening luca_b
[11:49] <luca_b> ukjadoon: try putting this at the prompt
[11:49] <ukjadoon> well it just hangs up there
[11:49] <luca_b> ukjadoon: install CD or live CD?
[11:49] <ukjadoon> well i just got 1 cd with my shipment
[11:49] <luca_b> ok it's the live
[11:50] <ukjadoon> yeah
[11:50] <ukjadoon> it just hangs up there
[11:50] <ukjadoon> nothing happens
[11:50] <luca_b> ukjadoon: at the prompt
[11:50] <ukjadoon> for almost 10 minutes
[11:50] <luca_b> ukjadoon: type "live noapic" without quotes
[11:50] <ukjadoon> ohhh
[11:50] <TheGateKeeper> luca_b: well gentoo proving a bastard to install, just installed kororaa (faster way to install gentoo) & I am still going to have to spend a couple of hours fixing stuff before I can start to use it
[11:50] <ukjadoon> i should type this after the thing hangs up?
[11:51] <luca_b> ukjadoon: when you boot up
[11:51] <luca_b> ukjadoon: it should say "press RETURN" etc etc etc
[11:51] <ukjadoon> when i boot up i get 5 options i think
[11:51] <TheGateKeeper> luca_b: thanx for the fix :-)
[11:51] <ukjadoon> i have to install or run it live
[11:51] <luca_b> ukjadoon: there is something like "boot: " written down, right
[11:51] <ukjadoon> sorry lol i am a newbie
[11:51] <luca_b> TheGateKeeper: np
[11:51] <luca_b> ukjadoon: at that prompt
[11:51] <luca_b> ukjadoon: write "live noapic"
[11:52] <ukjadoon> hmmmm ok
[11:52] <ukjadoon> at the boot options?
[11:52] <luca_b> yeah
[11:52] <ukjadoon> i can access that by pressing f6
[11:52] <ukjadoon> oh and what about the rest of the command line
[11:52] <luca_b> you don't need to push f-keys
[11:52] <luca_b> you'll just see you can type
[11:52] <ukjadoon> do i have to write this at the end of the command line? the splash-- live noapic
[11:53] <luca_b> ukjadoon: if you look, you'll see a line that says "boot:" at the bottom of the screen
[11:53] <luca_b> yes, just type "live noapic"
[11:53] <ukjadoon> ohhhh
[11:53] <ukjadoon> ok:d
[11:53] <luca_b> that will boot up the live CD disabling an option that causes woes on some motherboards
[11:53] <ukjadoon> :D
[11:53] <ukjadoon> well i will try this out immediately
[11:53] <luca_b> ukjadoon: if it still doesn't work, there are other similar options you can try
[11:54] <ukjadoon> and if it works mannnn i just don't know how to thank u:D:D:D:D:D
[11:54] <ukjadoon> hmmm
[11:54] <ukjadoon> what r the other options?
[11:54] <luca_b> ukjadoon: such as "live nolapic", "live noapic nolapic", "live acpi=ht", "live acpi=off"
[11:54] <luca_b> the last turns a LOT of things off
[11:54] <ukjadoon> ohhhh
[11:54] <luca_b> so use it only if you can' boot without anything else
[11:54] <luca_b> can't, rather
[11:55] <ukjadoon> is it really something like a USB port problem or something
[11:55] <ukjadoon> or does it vary with different computers?
[11:55] <luca_b> ukjadoon: it varies
[11:55] <luca_b> ukjadoon: mostly due to BIOS bugs
[11:56] <ukjadoon> weird
[11:56] <luca_b> ukjadoon: manufacturers often bend standards in their own ways, hence why such things occur
[11:56] <ukjadoon> why did they release a buggy version of ubuntu and kubuntu?
[11:56] <luca_b> ukjadoon: it's not a distro bug
[11:56] <ukjadoon> would the same commands work in kubuntu setup too?
[11:56] <luca_b> ukjadoon: but a hardware bug
[11:56] <luca_b> ukjadoon: yes, kubuntu and ubuntu use the same kernel
[11:57] <ukjadoon> wow i am really new to this stuff, i am a C++ programmer and all but i have always been a windows user
[11:57] <ukjadoon> i never really stepped into linux waters
[11:57] <ukjadoon> this is my first time:D
[11:57] <poseidon> SHARK!!!! :O
[11:57] <ukjadoon> i am really so glad u helped me out with this luca_b
[11:57] <ukjadoon> \m/\m/
[11:57] <luca_b> ukjadoon: no problem
[11:58] <ukjadoon> thank u so much *HAILS*
[11:58] <ukjadoon> i better try it out then =D
[11:58] <luca_b> ukjadoon: yep
[11:59] <ukjadoon> oh and should i install ubuntu first
[11:59] <ukjadoon> and then install kubuntu on top of it or something?
[11:59] <luca_b> ukjadoon: if you install ubuntu and then you want to change to kubuntu
[11:59] <luca_b> ukjadoon: simply install the "kubuntu-desktop" package
[11:59] <tom_> having trouble installing libxine-extracodecs
[12:00] <ukjadoon> oh alright i wrote all of that down
[12:00] <tom_> I get "Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[12:00] <ukjadoon> thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanx a kazillion luca_b u da man
[12:00] <ukjadoon> i better reboot and try it out then
[12:00] <ukjadoon> peace my friend\m/\m/
[12:00] <luca_b> tom_:  one sec, checking that package
[12:01] <luca_b> tom_: Do you have the multiverse repo enabled?
[12:01] <tom_> i think so
[12:01] <tom_> i've got "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse"
[12:01] <tom_> in my sources.list, is that right?
[12:01] <luca_b> tom_:  are you using edgy eft?
[12:01] <TheGateKeeper> anyone know how to configure ekiga?
[12:01] <tom_> yeah
[12:02] <luca_b> !ubuntu+1
[12:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu+1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:02] <luca_b> er
[12:02] <luca_b> tom_:  go ask in #ubuntu+1 - this channel is for the stable versions only
[12:02] <luca_b> if I recall
[12:02] <TheGateKeeper> bad bot day lol
[12:02] <luca_b> that's the channel
[12:02] <tom_> hmm
[12:02] <tom_> i don't think this is down to edgy though...
[12:03] <tom_> will give it a try though, thanks
[12:03] <fdoving> tom_,i doubt edgy have a backport archive yet.
[12:03] <fdoving> tom_, but other than that the rest looks good.
[12:03] <tom_> is that where libxine-extracodecs comes from?
[12:03] <luca_b> backports is another set of repo's
[12:04] <luca_b> you should check if you have something
[12:04] <luca_b> deb http://xx.ubuntu.org/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe ultiverse
[12:04] <luca_b> where xx is your country code or something
[12:04] <luca_b> er
[12:04] <luca_b> change "ultiverse" with "multiverse", typo
[12:05] <TheGateKeeper> luca_b: you use Voice over IP?
[12:05] <luca_b> TheGateKeeper: seldomly, why?
[12:06] <TheGateKeeper> luca_b: looking for something that I can get to work
[12:06] <luca_b> TheGateKeeper: I use only p2p VoIP programs though (e.g. skype)
[12:07] <TheGateKeeper> luca_b: ok thanx