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| marcin_ant | doko_: hello | 10:19 |
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| doko_ | good morning | 10:31 |
| marcin_ant | doko_: hi | 10:35 |
| marcin_ant | doko_: I got a question to you about debian/ubuntu policy while sun's java is available in universe | 10:36 |
| marcin_ant | doko_: is there any change in official policy? | 10:36 |
| marcin_ant | doko_: and next question is about your plans for ant and eclipse 3.2... | 10:36 |
| marcin_ant | doko_: could you tell what is the status of eclipse 3.2 package and are there any plans to provide packages related to sun-java? | 10:37 |
| doko_ | I don't have 3.2 packages yet. do you have some? | 10:37 |
| marcin_ant | doko_: I started to work on them but I don't have any successfull build yet | 10:38 |
| marcin_ant | doko_: another thing is that few eclipse parts requires java5 | 10:39 |
| marcin_ant | doko_: so this is why I ask about policy... | 10:39 |
| marcin_ant | I just wonder if it could be possible to provide for example two packages for ant and two for eclipse | 10:40 |
| marcin_ant | something like: ant, ant-common, ant-sun and ant-gcj.... | 10:40 |
| doko_ | afaik eclipse 3.2 can be built using 1.4 | 10:40 |
| marcin_ant | that's right but build instructions | 10:42 |
| marcin_ant | (take a look at instructions.html in eclipse source directory) | 10:42 |
| marcin_ant | says that system requirements are: | 10:42 |
| marcin_ant | 1.4 _and_ 1.5 JDK | 10:42 |
| marcin_ant | and also says that: "Libraries in install used to compile plug-ins in the eclipse SDK that require 1.5 compliance (currently only JDT APT)" | 10:43 |
| doko_ | no, we don't need an ant-sun package, and if, then it has to go to multiverse | 10:52 |
| marcin_ant | doko_: ok and what about eclipse-sun? | 11:16 |
| marcin_ant | doko_: we all know that with sun java eclipse is much faster... | 11:16 |
| doko_ | no, we are about free software in the first place. you can run the eclipse packages with sun-java as well. | 11:17 |
| marcin_ant | doko_: well you know, now I don't care; from about a week I got new computer with Core 2 Duo which is powerfull enough to run eclipse | 11:48 |
| marcin_ant | with sun and gcj as well | 11:48 |
| marcin_ant | but for a long time I had machine with AMD Duron 1.8 GHz and on even with 1GB ram on this machine eclipse with gcj was unusable | 11:49 |
| marcin_ant | so for me - I'm about usability and productability first - then I'm about free software | 11:49 |
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| marcin_ant | doko_: and of course I'm not against free software but I would like to give simple choice to people - they should have an easy ability to swich between gcj and sun | 11:56 |
| doko_ | marcin_ant: you can run the current eclipse package with any java interpreter you want | 11:57 |
| marcin_ant | doko_: ok - current package which is 3.1 | 11:57 |
| marcin_ant | doko_: and what about 3.2 ? | 11:58 |
| doko_ | marcin, no package has a specific java interpreter hardcoded | 12:00 |
| marcin_ant | doko_: but has defined dependencies... | 12:03 |
| doko_ | which ones? | 12:03 |
| marcin_ant | doko_: anyway I will try to analyze all these packages more and will talk about it later ok? | 12:04 |
| marcin_ant | doko_: and of course I will try to prepare something for eclipse 3.2 while I need this version if I want to use pydev | 12:04 |
| doko_ | pydev is in the archives | 12:06 |
| marcin_ant | new http://pydev.sourceforge.net/ requires eclipse 3.2 | 12:09 |
| marcin_ant | need to go... | 12:11 |
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