=== marcin_ant [n=marcin@194.114.146.122] has joined #ubuntu-java === doko__ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-066-025.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-java [10:19] doko_: hello [10:31] good morning [10:35] doko_: hi [10:36] doko_: I got a question to you about debian/ubuntu policy while sun's java is available in universe [10:36] doko_: is there any change in official policy? [10:36] doko_: and next question is about your plans for ant and eclipse 3.2... [10:37] doko_: could you tell what is the status of eclipse 3.2 package and are there any plans to provide packages related to sun-java? [10:37] I don't have 3.2 packages yet. do you have some? [10:38] doko_: I started to work on them but I don't have any successfull build yet [10:39] doko_: another thing is that few eclipse parts requires java5 [10:39] doko_: so this is why I ask about policy... [10:40] I just wonder if it could be possible to provide for example two packages for ant and two for eclipse [10:40] something like: ant, ant-common, ant-sun and ant-gcj.... [10:40] afaik eclipse 3.2 can be built using 1.4 [10:42] that's right but build instructions [10:42] (take a look at instructions.html in eclipse source directory) [10:42] says that system requirements are: [10:42] 1.4 _and_ 1.5 JDK [10:43] and also says that: "Libraries in install used to compile plug-ins in the eclipse SDK that require 1.5 compliance (currently only JDT APT)" [10:52] no, we don't need an ant-sun package, and if, then it has to go to multiverse [11:16] doko_: ok and what about eclipse-sun? [11:16] doko_: we all know that with sun java eclipse is much faster... [11:17] no, we are about free software in the first place. you can run the eclipse packages with sun-java as well. [11:48] doko_: well you know, now I don't care; from about a week I got new computer with Core 2 Duo which is powerfull enough to run eclipse [11:48] with sun and gcj as well [11:49] but for a long time I had machine with AMD Duron 1.8 GHz and on even with 1GB ram on this machine eclipse with gcj was unusable [11:49] so for me - I'm about usability and productability first - then I'm about free software === marcin_ant [n=marcin@194.114.146.122] has joined #ubuntu-java [11:56] doko_: and of course I'm not against free software but I would like to give simple choice to people - they should have an easy ability to swich between gcj and sun [11:57] marcin_ant: you can run the current eclipse package with any java interpreter you want [11:57] doko_: ok - current package which is 3.1 [11:58] doko_: and what about 3.2 ? [12:00] marcin, no package has a specific java interpreter hardcoded [12:03] doko_: but has defined dependencies... [12:03] which ones? [12:04] doko_: anyway I will try to analyze all these packages more and will talk about it later ok? [12:04] doko_: and of course I will try to prepare something for eclipse 3.2 while I need this version if I want to use pydev [12:06] pydev is in the archives [12:09] new http://pydev.sourceforge.net/ requires eclipse 3.2 [12:11] need to go... === marcin_ant [n=marcin@194.114.146.122] has joined #ubuntu-java === tmarble [n=tmarble@user-0cdvpct.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-java === equex [n=equex@ti132110a080-15064.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu-java === equex [n=equex@ti132110a080-15064.bb.online.no] has left #ubuntu-java [] === marcin_ant [n=marcin@194.114.146.122] has joined #ubuntu-java === puba [n=armin@p54B9D23D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-java === puba [n=armin@p54B9D23D.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-java ["Verlassend"] === pombreda [n=pombreda@c-71-198-188-62.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-java