[12:26] <ph8> ivoks
[12:26] <ph8> you left 
[12:26] <ph8> my internet died
[12:26] <ph8> i'll try the daily tomorrow
[12:26] <ph8> i really hope the new kernel's made it into the installer then
[12:26] <ivoks> ph8: ok, but CD won't work
[12:27] <ivoks> as i said, i tried with latest kernel
[12:28] <ph8> tomorrow's...
[12:28] <ph8> i see
[12:28] <ivoks> anyway, i'm going off and will try tomorrow with this patch i created today
[12:29] <ivoks> good luck
[11:05] <xopher> Hi! Any ideas on what I should do if I wish to build a linux-restricted-modules for a specific kernel-version? Ive tried, well everything I can come up with, and it still compiles according to the newest available, instead of the one I want. I cannot use 9-generic because it panics for me. (amd64)
[11:09] <AnAnt> is the usplash issue fixed ?
[11:09] <Mithrandir> xopher: poke the values in debian/rules ?
[11:10] <xopher> Mithrandir, I have poked around quite a bit. Ive replaced _every_ value that indicated to 9-generic with 8-generic
[11:10] <Mithrandir> xopher: you want to do debian/rules debian/control too
[11:11] <xopher> well I used grep to search the whole debian dir, so Ive gone through all the files
[11:12] <xopher> I even tried a different approach, I edited the diff.gz, changing even the @@KVERSION@@ and @@ABIVERSION@@, still looks for 2.6.17-9-generic :/
[11:13] <xopher> Its not that vital that I get this working, just really want to know how this is done now :) Took me the whole day yesterday trying to get it compiled correctly
[11:16] <BenC> xopher: there's a page on the wiki explaining how to rebuild the kernel
[11:18] <xopher> BenC, well Im not trying to rebuild the kernel, Im trying to build linux-restricted-modules for a specific kernel version. I doubt rebuilding 9-generic would make it boot for me ? As it panics for me atm.
[11:23] <BenC> xopher: edit debian/rules, change abi to 8, and dpkg-buildpackage -b -rfakeroot
[11:24] <xopher> ok, Ill try once more. Using pbuilder/pdebuild shouldnt affect this right?
[11:41] <ph8> 5 minutes and i'll has tested today's daily 
[11:41] <ph8> * have
[11:44] <xopher> Does today's daily differ from 9-generic? Are there changelogs for dailys?
[11:46] <ph8> yes
[11:46] <ph8> erm
[11:46] <ph8> well
[11:46] <ph8> you have to check each individual package
[11:47] <ph8> the packages included are in the .list @ cdimage.ubuntu.com
[11:48] <ph8> BenC: Do you know if we have to set certain bios settings to fix the sata detection bugs?
[11:48] <ph8> like ahci instead of ide?
[11:49] <ph8> and the latest install cd still doesn't find a cdrom drive :/
[11:50] <ph8> what was that zcat command to check the installer kernel version?
[11:51] <ph8>  lib/modules/2.6.17-8-generic/kernel/ ... that's the most recent right?
[11:51] <ph8> the one that should be working?
[12:01] <xopher> ph8, -9-generic is the most recent one
[01:00] <xopher> BenC, ok, I believe I got it working now, had to put -d in debbuildopts, or it would fail on a dependency issue for 9-generic. Even there's nothing (I can think of, thats pointing at 9-generic). Thanks for your help.
[01:11] <svu_tv> BenC, I hate to tell you - but .iso 2309 does not work either :/
[01:11] <svu_tv> (with PPC G5)
[01:24] <ph8|2> Mithrandir: Sorry to bother, i was wondering if you could tell me whether the installer has the latest (fixed?) kernel? i'm still having problems.. :/
[01:25] <Mithrandir> ph8|2: you can check it yourself, you know.
[01:28] <ph8|2> erm
[01:28] <ph8|2> well
[01:28] <ph8|2> i was aware
[01:29] <ph8> I *think*
[01:29] <ph8> but do you know if -8 is the latest?
[01:29] <Mithrandir> look at the publishing history for linux-source-2.6.17 on launchpad
[01:29] <ph8> if not, is there any way for me to update it? and/or will you know when it makes it into the dailies?
[01:29] <ph8> i've just noticed the topic actually
[01:29] <ph8> -9.23 = fixed
[01:29] <ph8> but zcat initrd.gz | cpio -i shows lots of -8 references
[01:30] <Mithrandir> hmm, might need a d-i upload then
[01:48] <ph8> sounds like a plan?
[01:48] <ph8> ;)
[01:48] <ph8> wish i could do something to help 
[01:49] <ph8> do you think it would be possible to get one today? or would it be ready as soon as tomorrow? I've got about two days to get this going before i have to cart it cross-country and back and the cost goes up++
[01:50] <Mithrandir> I've asked our d-i guru about whether it needs an upload or not
[01:50] <ph8> ty - is he activeish?
[01:53] <ph8> test
[01:53] <ph8> looks like my connection's just holding on :p
[01:56] <ph8> Mithrandir: If he was to go 'oh yes it does' and do one, would it get into a daily today? or am i looking at a long wait?
[01:56] <Mithrandir> it'd go into tomorrow's, but I'm not sure I'll see a response today -- he's busy with moving house.
[01:58] <ph8> :s ok thx, looks like you guys are leading the way with this bug - i can't find another distro it works in
[05:15] <Mithrandir> zul: so, I get my xen domains starting, but they seem to be unable to connect to xenstored and give me "XENBUS: Timeout connecting to device: device/vbd/2049 (state 3)" when I modprobe xenblk in the initramfs.
[05:15] <Mithrandir> zul: any ideas?
[05:16] <ph8> #ubuntu+1 Hoping for some help guys, if I was trying to build my own ubuntu install CD, which requires a copy of the debian installer ubuntu uses as well as the kernel etc, where would i find the installer?
[05:16] <ph8> erm
[05:16] <ph8> whoops
[05:16] <ph8> Hoping for some help guys, if I was trying to build my own ubuntu install CD, which requires a copy of the debian installer ubuntu uses as well as the kernel etc, where would i find the installer?
[05:17] <ph8> strange
[05:17] <ph8> Mithrandir: Don't suppose you got a reply from that chap? :s
[05:17] <Mithrandir> ph8: "apt-get install debian-installer"?
[05:18] <ph8> lol.
[05:18] <ph8> cheers :)
[05:18] <ph8> i was searching for variations of d-i
[05:18] <ph8> i hope this works or i'm in the proverbial shit :/
[05:22] <zul> Mithrandir: havent seen that one before
[05:22] <zul> because i dont modprobe anything in the initramdisk if i can recall
[05:23] <Mithrandir> zul: hmmkay.  I'll try building a domU with somewhat less shit, then
[05:26] <ph8> Mithrandir: Did you get a reply from the d-i maintainer bloke?
[05:26] <zul> you mean dom0 didnt you?
[05:27] <Mithrandir> ph8: no.
[05:28] <Mithrandir> zul: no, I thought it was the domUs which didn't need all kinds of drivers compiled in?
[05:28] <zul> domU is your guest kernel
[05:28] <zul> dom0 is the one your boot your pc with
[05:28] <Mithrandir> yes, I know that.
[05:28] <zul> oh..
[05:29] <zul> heh maybe i should go back to bed then
[05:33] <ph8> I've got plenty of use for you if you're bored zul... :)
[06:18] <ivoks> it looks like sata disk connected to jmicron will boot with -9-386
[06:18] <ivoks> true, it takes 5 minutes, but it does boot
[06:18] <ivoks> still, we don't have support for IDE part od jmicron controller
[06:18] <ivoks> and no, ich8 doesn't work
[06:19] <ivoks> with my patch, kernel boots normaly
[06:19] <ivoks> (no IDE jmicron, yet and no ICH8)
[06:19] <mjg59> ivoks: Can you please put an lspci of your system somewhere?
[06:20] <ivoks> mjg59: sure, i'm waiting it to boot up :)
[06:20] <mjg59> ivoks: Cool
[06:20] <ivoks> it has jmicron sata controller, jmicron ide controller and ich8 sata controller
[06:26] <ivoks> i'll be back
[06:38] <ivoks> joy! it works!
[06:38] <ivoks> mjg59: lspci: http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu/LSPCI
[06:39] <ivoks> mjg59: lspci -vvv: http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu/LSPCI-vvv
[06:39] <ivoks> for IDE to work, we need aditional driver in kernel
[06:40] <ivoks> ahci handles only SATA part of jmicron, for IDE part we need jmicron.c
[06:40] <ivoks> can be found in 2.6.18-rc7-mm
[06:41] <ivoks> 2.6.18-rc7-mm also contains fix for ICH8, but inside new libata
[06:41] <ivoks> :/
[06:42] <ivoks> i guess it's a known issue that ubuntu-desktop depends on universe packages :)
[06:43] <BenC> ivoks: Then we have a different bug
[06:43] <BenC> one in which ide-generic isn't grabbing legacy IDE ports
[06:44] <BenC> because it should handle JMicron IDE without that jmicron.c
[06:44] <ivoks> BenC: i'm not kernel expert, so i guess you are right
[06:44] <ivoks> the fact is that it works with that jmicron.c and is trivial to import it
[06:45] <ivoks> that driver also states that it's for basic functionality
[06:45] <BenC> ivoks: Can you see if ide-generic is loaded without the jmicron module on there?
[06:45] <ivoks> BenC: atm i don't run with kernel with jmicron.c
[06:45] <BenC> if it isn't, can you "modprobe ide-generic" and see if that works?
[06:45] <ivoks> but i'll create it today and i'll be able to test it
[06:45] <BenC> ivoks: No, try it without that module
[06:46] <BenC> just use our livecd or something
[06:46] <mjg59> ivoks: lspci -n would be good
[06:46] <ivoks> BenC: it discovers nothing
[06:46] <ivoks> mjg59: ok
[06:46] <ivoks> mjg59: lspci -vvv: http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu/LSPCI-n
[06:46] <ivoks> beh..
[06:46] <ivoks> lcpsi -n
[06:47] <mjg59> It's possible that ide-generic isn't being autoloaded
[06:47] <BenC> ivoks: I don't care about "nothing", I just care about ide-generic being loaded or not
[06:47] <BenC> yeah, that's what I'm worried about
[06:47] <ivoks> BenC: it loads on start
[06:47] <ivoks> BenC: from initrd
[06:47] <mjg59> ivoks: How do you know?
[06:47] <BenC> lsmod | grep generic
[06:48] <BenC> see if it's loaded
[06:48] <ivoks> mjg59: Probing IDE interface ide0...
[06:48] <ivoks> ide_generic             2432  0 
[06:48] <ivoks> generic                 6148  0 
[06:48] <mjg59> Oh, hang on, yeah. It should be generic.
[06:48] <BenC> ivoks: what does it say about the ports on ide0?
[06:48] <mjg59> Not ide-generic.
[06:49] <ivoks> BenC: that's only output i get with ide0
[06:49] <mjg59> ivoks: Can you rmmod generic; modprobe generic and then see what appears in dmesg?
[06:49] <ivoks> dmesg | grep ide0
[06:50] <ivoks> mjg59: nothing
[06:50] <mjg59> ivoks: Nothing? At all?
[06:50] <ivoks> at all
[06:50] <ivoks> with ide-generic
[06:50] <mjg59> No
[06:50] <mjg59> generic
[06:50] <ivoks> with generic nothing, with ide-generic i get onli Probing... for ide0 and ide1
[06:50] <ivoks> hate this keyboard
[06:51] <mjg59> generic really should claiming it
[06:52] <mjg59> What do you have connected?
[06:52] <ivoks> cdrom
[06:52] <mjg59> Was generic autoloaded?
[06:52] <ivoks> can't tell for sure...
[06:53] <mjg59> Well, did you load it first?
[06:53] <ivoks> no
[06:53] <mjg59> Then it was presumably autoloaded
[06:53] <ivoks> there's no other explanation
[06:53] <ivoks> btw... with default initrd, system boots slowly
[06:53] <mjg59> We'll worry about that later
[06:54] <ivoks> problem is in r1000 wich crashes and kills modprobe
[06:55] <mjg59> BenC: I can't see any obvious reason why generic would fail to bind usefully
[06:57] <BenC> is this with -9?
[06:57] <ivoks> BenC: yes
[06:58] <BenC> because -8 I can understand it doing that
[06:58] <ivoks> BenC: compiled with -9-generic and netbooted
[06:58] <BenC> you compiled -9-generic, or you mean you rebuilt the netboot?
[06:58] <ivoks> i compiled -9-generic and booted installation with it, over netboot
[06:58] <BenC> ...using the -9-generic in the archive
[06:59] <BenC> compiled it from where?
[06:59] <BenC> using git or linux-source-2.6.17 9.23?
[06:59] <ivoks> apt-get source linux-image-2.6.17-9-386 ; cp /boot/config*-generic .config
[06:59] <ivoks> make ; make modules_install
[06:59] <ph8> ivoks: I'd love you forever if you can help me get my system booting..!
[07:00] <BenC> grep ide0 /proc/ioports
[07:00] <BenC> tell me what that says
[07:00] <ivoks> nothing; no output
[07:00] <BenC> grep ide /proc/ioports; grep ide /proc/iomem
[07:01] <ivoks> 000a0000-000bffff : Video RAM area
[07:01] <ivoks> 000c0000-000cebff : Video ROM
[07:01] <ivoks> that for iomem
[07:01] <mjg59> BenC: If generic isn't claiming it, there'll be nothing there
[07:01] <mjg59> And the use count of generic is 0, which isn't a good sign
[07:01] <BenC> I wonder why it would probe it, but not actually see anything
[07:02] <BenC> this sounds an aweful lot like the bug that the jmicron patches in -9 were supposed to fix
[07:02] <BenC> ivoks: dmesg | grep -i jmicron
[07:02] <mjg59> ivoks: Can you do sudo modinfo -F alias generic and paste the output somewhere?
[07:02] <ivoks> BenC: no output
[07:03] <ivoks> mjg59: www.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu/alias
[07:03] <ivoks> sorry, i'm in console :/
[07:03] <mjg59> Ok, so generic is being loaded
[07:05] <ivoks> i'm afraid i have to go now
[07:05] <mjg59> So possibly the PCI quirk that puts it in dual function mode is broken
[07:05] <ivoks> but i can ssh to this machine from home
[07:05] <mjg59> Or possibly it still depends on the jmicron driver being loaded to set that up
[07:05] <ivoks> so i can give any info that's needed
[07:06] <mjg59> ivoks: Are you able to provide us with remote access?
[07:06] <ivoks> mjg59: sure
[07:07] <ivoks> as soon as i find free IP address :)
[07:07] <mjg59> Heh
[07:07] <mjg59> Ok
[07:08] <BenC> mjg59: jmicron told me that fixup was all that was needed
[07:08] <ivoks> i'll be back.. IP change
[07:08] <mjg59> Ok. Well, it's plainly not working right now...
[07:08] <ph8> perhaps all that was necessary ben?
[07:08] <ph8> at least sata's appear to work with ahci compatibility set, that means you can install from usb disk
[07:09] <BenC> I think all you jmicron guys are just going to have to wait till I get my eval board and can actually test this stuff
[07:11] <ph8> well, if 9 solves it as implied above ^ that's good enough to work with until it gets fixed properly... the kernel just isn't in d-i atm and i'm told that could take days :(
[07:11] <mjg59> We're in beta freeze
[07:11] <mjg59> It'll be fixed before release of the final distribution. Other than that, there's no way to provide definite timing information
[07:12] <mjg59> BenC: Do we not have support for the ICH8 sata?
[07:13] <BenC> mjg59: We should, but it's something else I have to test, because reports imply it doesn't work
[07:13] <BenC> I backported a lot of stuff for ich8 into -9
[07:14] <mjg59> If I can get access to ivoks's machine, I'll do some quick sanity checks
[07:16] <BenC> mjg59: btw, I have a core duo laptop now, but unfortunately, everything seems to work perfectly so it did me little good :)
[07:16] <zul> *sigh*
[07:16] <mjg59> BenC: Ha
[07:16] <kylem> zul?
[07:17] <zul> BenC: heh thats ironic
[07:17] <zul> kylem: heh rt2x00 cards are giving me grief
[07:17] <kylem> ah.
[07:17] <mjg59> Hm. The PCI IDE setup code is static.
[07:17] <mjg59> Wait.
[07:18] <mjg59> Oh, yeah.
[07:19] <mjg59> Wait a moment.
[07:20] <mjg59> Where did pata_jmicron come from?
[07:20] <ivoks> from me
[07:20] <ivoks> but i don't use it
[07:20] <svu_tv> BenC, did you see my msg about failure on G5 (again)? Need any help/info?
[07:20] <mjg59> ivoks: If I reboot this machine, will it come back up? :)
[07:20] <ivoks> mjg59: probably not :)
[07:20] <mjg59> I just tried to unload that, and it oopsed the kernel
[07:20] <ivoks> mjg59: wait a second
[07:21] <mjg59> Having pata_jmicron there is likely to confuse things
[07:21] <ivoks> so, do you want me to boot real -9-generic?
[07:21] <mjg59> Will that boot?
[07:21] <mjg59> If so, yeah
[07:21] <ivoks> i'll try
[07:21] <mjg59> Ok
[07:21] <mjg59> Thanks!
[07:21] <zul> have you guys tried passing ide-generic?
[07:22] <mjg59> zul: I'm not convinced it's wired up as a legacy controller
[07:22] <mjg59> We'll get to that
[07:22] <ivoks> mjg59: booting
[07:22] <BenC> svu_tv: no
[07:22] <ivoks> brb
[07:22] <mjg59> ivoks: Ta
[07:23] <zul> back later have to go clean the house
[07:33] <doko_> fabbione, BenC: debian#389225
[07:37] <ivoks> hrmph...
[07:37] <ivoks> mjg59: i tried :( but no-go
[07:37] <ivoks> mjg59: there is strace of crash in syslog
[07:39] <ivoks> um...
[07:40] <svu_tv> BenC, g5 still does not boot (.iso 2309) - still error messages from hda
[07:41] <ivoks> mjg59: ignore that, there isn't strace of crash
[07:45] <mjg59> ivoks: Mm?
[07:45] <mjg59> ivoks: Where does it crash?
[07:45] <ivoks> it detects disk, loads USB modules
[07:45] <ivoks> and then crashes
[07:46] <ivoks> right after usb modules
[07:46] <mjg59> ivoks: What does the trace look like?
[07:46] <ivoks> note: in initrd i have only modules related to disk
[07:46] <ivoks> mjg59: checkout syslog
[07:47] <mjg59> ivoks: No, that's from when I unloaded pata_jmicron
[07:47] <ivoks> mjg59: i know, but something like that
[07:47] <mjg59> ivoks: No, very unlikely to be like that
[07:47] <ivoks> BUG: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00003020
[07:47] <mjg59> Right
[07:47] <mjg59> It's the call trace that's important
[07:48] <ivoks> ok, i can reboot and take a picture
[07:48] <ivoks> gr... i can't do that :/
[07:48] <ivoks> but i can write it down
[07:48] <mjg59> Ok
[07:49] <ivoks> stay tuned for news... :)
[07:56] <ivoks> i was writing it down, and then it booted all the way :)
[07:56] <ivoks> but no network :/
[07:56] <ivoks> so, it's in syslog
[07:57] <BenC> svu_tv: Latest ISO's are not using the new kernel
[07:57] <mjg59> Ok
[07:57] <mjg59> ivoks: So is it up now?
[07:57] <BenC> svu_tv: The installer hasn't been rebuilt yet
[07:57] <ivoks> mjg59: modified kernel, not the default one :/ 
[07:58] <mjg59> Ok, got it
[07:58] <ivoks> mjg59: but you have trace of crash in syslog
[07:58] <ivoks> line 2198
[07:58] <mjg59> Oh, that's fun
[07:59] <mjg59> Now, why is it crashing there...
[08:00] <mjg59> BenC: It's dying during generic_probe_one
[08:00] <mjg59> BenC: Which might well explain things
[08:04] <mjg59> BenC: http://pastebin.ca/181214
[08:05] <mjg59> ivoks: Can you try booting 2.6.17-9-generic with pci=nobios as a boot option and see if it crashes in the same way?
[08:05] <ivoks> sure
[08:05] <ivoks> brb
[08:06] <BenC> or even nosmp might be something to try
[08:07] <BenC> that is a weird crash
[08:08] <mjg59> A word is 16 bits, right?
[08:09] <mjg59> Yeah
[08:09] <BenC> yeah, dword is 32
[08:10] <mjg59> And there's no weird context issues...
[08:10] <mjg59> Oh, god knows what's up there
[08:10] <mjg59> But anyway, that's why generic isn't working on -9-generic
[08:10] <mjg59> (In this case, at least)
[08:11] <mjg59> Anyway, they're throwing us out
[08:11] <BenC> I wonder if it's special to this case, or if it's in general broken
[08:11] <BenC> later
[08:11] <ivoks> 2.6.17-9-generic
[08:12] <mjg59> ivoks: Mm?
[08:12] <ivoks> it crashed again, but after loading r1000, so i have network now
[08:12] <mjg59> ivoks: Same crash?
[08:12] <ivoks> not the same
[08:12] <ivoks> check it out 
[08:13] <mjg59> No, that's the same crash
[08:13] <mjg59> Except it's going through pci_conf1_read rather than pci_bios_read
[08:13] <mjg59> So that's irrelevant
[08:13] <mjg59> Right
[08:13] <mjg59> Have to leave now
[08:13] <mjg59> Networking going away
[08:13] <ivoks> ok
[08:15] <zul> grrr...
[08:15] <zul> we have new neighbors next door and we thought they were doing construction but noooo they have a drum kit going full blast 
[08:16] <kylem> zul, what part of the city are you in?
[08:16] <zul> kanata
[08:16] <kylem> ah, isn't there like, bylaws against fun there?
[08:16] <kylem> :)
[08:17] <zul> yeah there is, its called i wanna nap in the basement and you are rattling my couch
[08:25] <zul_> ooh...ringo star has stoped
[08:35] <svu_tv> BenC, ghm, it is not installer, it was a kernel booting cd live
[08:40] <svu_tv> BenC, anyway, when could we expect ISOs with new kernel? next week?
[09:10] <ph8> if i have a built version of -9 (from another edgy system), should i just be able to overwrite the one that my debian installer uses or is it more complicated than that?
[09:20] <gnomefreak> svu_tv: beta gets release this week should have the -9 kernel
[09:22] <svu_tv> gnomefreak, cool. looking forward. Actually extremely eager to get it in .iso :)
[09:44] <ivoks> hi ph8 
[09:44] <ph8> hi!
[09:44] <ph8> just updated my lappy to edgy
[09:44] <ph8> little bumpy, the new intro music is way cooler though
[09:44] <ivoks> :)
[09:44] <ph8> i hear you've got a working something-or-other
[09:45] <ph8> i was *really* hoping you'd consider putting your install cd source online?
[09:45] <ph8> especially after my connection messed up our netboot attempt last night
[09:45] <ivoks> there's no source
[09:45] <ivoks> i did netinstall
[09:45] <ivoks> CD isn't working, but SATA disk on jmicron port is working
[09:46] <ph8> did you have a special kernel with the drivers for the network card in though?
[09:46] <ph8> that would be ideal :)
[09:46] <ph8> cd was only needed for installing
[09:46] <ivoks> i wouldn't advise you to go trough install
[09:46] <ivoks> grub doesn't work for me
[09:46] <ivoks> i'm booting machine over network :/
[09:47] <ivoks> but if you want, i can guide you
[09:47] <ph8> so what doesn't work as expected? not just the cd drive?
[09:47] <ph8> i'd be wanting to setup two satas in a software RAID array
[09:47] <ivoks> ich8 doesn't work too, grub doesn't work
[09:47] <ph8> how are your satas connected to the p5b?
[09:47] <ivoks> ph8: jmicron has only one internal sata port
[09:47] <ph8> ah i see
[09:48] <ph8> so ich8 is still broken?
[09:48] <ivoks> other 4 ports are from ich8
[09:48] <ivoks> yes
[09:48] <ph8> darn
[09:48] <ph8> that's with -9?
[09:48] <ivoks> yes
[09:48] <ph8> k
[09:48] <ph8> i'll have to expend some cash on the old train in a couple of weeks then!
[09:48] <ivoks> ph8: one bug at the time :)
[09:48] <ph8> that's a shame
[09:49] <ph8> do you know how the fix is progressing? will it be ready in a couple of weeks?
[09:50] <ivoks> i'm sure it will be fixed for the release
[09:50] <ivoks> i can't tell you exact date
[09:50] <ph8> that's end of october though right?
[09:50] <ivoks> i'm not kernel developer, i'm just interested party
[09:50] <ph8> just wondered if people knew exactly what was wrong and how to fix it
[09:51] <ivoks> i know how to make CD work
[09:51] <ivoks> the thing i need now is ich8
[09:51] <ivoks> BenC: here?
[09:54] <ph8> i'll watch avidly i guess now i've resigned myself to the trip back down to london, thanks for all you've done so far
[09:58] <ivoks> well... i lost whole day working around this
[09:58] <ivoks> and i have exam tomorrow :)
[10:07] <ivoks> anyway...
[10:07] <ivoks> BenC: http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/7/11/493
[10:17] <zul> BenC: ping
[10:19] <zul> Mithrandir: ping
[10:25] <zul> Mithrandir: can you possibly merge changes into the git please? Thanks..
[12:04] <zul> yippe skippe...xen-image-xen0-2.6.17-1-generic_2.6.17-1_i386.deb
[12:07] <ivoks> woho!
[12:07] <ivoks> to late to merge? :)
[12:07] <zul> no i have til thursday
[12:08] <ivoks> so... we could have xen by default? :))
[12:08] <zul> no...this is in universe
[12:08] <ivoks> eh... :/
[12:08] <zul> seperate kernel
[12:08] <zul> brb need to reboot
[12:12] <ajmitch> ivoks: too much pain & suffering to have it by default
[12:12] <ivoks> i know...