[06:39] <elkbuntu> i'd help out with UWN, but gobby keeps giving me version mismatch errors :|
[06:39] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: welcome to gobby
[06:40] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, it wasnt a complaint, just an fyi
[06:40] <elkbuntu> anything you want me to write up or something?
[06:40] <elkbuntu> since i cant see it to decide for myself :P
[06:40] <Burgundavia> sure, going to be moving it back to the wiki
[06:41] <Burgundavia> moved back
[06:42] <elkbuntu> looks really sparse compared to last weeks :|
[06:42] <Burgundavia> yes, becuase I have not started editing yet
[06:42] <elkbuntu> hehe
[06:43] <elkbuntu> i had a meddle last night..added the meeting times
[06:43] <elkbuntu> couldnt find any news that wasnt old
[06:46] <poningru_> doing hw right now
[06:49] <elkbuntu> oh yuck.. automatix mentioned --> http://www.itweek.co.uk/personal-computer-world/features/2164751/making-ubuntu-easier
[06:50] <Madpilot> obviously they meant to title the article 'making-ubuntu-broken'
[06:51] <poningru_> hehe
[06:51] <elkbuntu> should we include it in UWN with a disclaimer.. it's in several places around the net
[06:51] <elkbuntu> http://www.whatpc.co.uk/personal-computer-world/features/2164751/making-ubuntu-easier <-- here as well
[06:51] <poningru_> what? automatix == teh bad?
[06:52] <elkbuntu> poningru_, yes
[06:53] <elkbuntu> http://novarata.net/comparison.html
[06:55] <poningru> oh I am with you on that
[06:55] <poningru> but its a community driven project
[06:55] <poningru> who are we to deny it?
[06:56] <elkbuntu> because the community spoken 'sorry, your system is <profanity>d' cannot repair the damage
[06:57] <Burgundavia> automatix is badly broken by design
[06:57] <poningru> well yes... like I said I agree with you all on that
[06:58] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, what should we do about the articles? post them with disclaimer?
[06:59] <Madpilot> I'd ignore them.
[07:00] <poningru> hmm I say lets ignore it
[07:00] <elkbuntu> yeah, probably good idea
[07:02] <elkbuntu> http://www.linux-tutorial.info/modules.php?name=MReviews&op=show&rid=19
[07:04] <elkbuntu> ^-- that worth adding?
[07:05] <Madpilot> looks interesting - so does the book they review. Too bad about the tiny font. :|
[07:05] <elkbuntu> gah
[07:08] <Burgundavia> yep
[07:08] <Burgundavia> I would add teh stuff about automatix, with a clear disclaimer
[07:09] <Madpilot> "Automatix is a good way to break Ubuntu that is inexplicably popular. Here are some articles about it:"
[07:10] <Madpilot> perhaps that's too clear, though?
[07:10] <elkbuntu> possibly
[07:10] <elkbuntu> but for some people... nowhere near clear enough
[07:11] <Burgundavia> yep
[07:12] <Madpilot> Apparently the Automatix Project's wiki mentions that #ubuntu doesn't like their little monster
[07:14] <elkbuntu> Madpilot, it's the pet of arnieboy from the forums afaik
[07:14] <Madpilot> apparently he's bowed out, there's an actual team in charge now. I gather from ppl who've looked at the code that it's still as horribly broken as ever, tho
[07:15] <elkbuntu> it's not going to change overnight
[07:19] <poningru> yeah...
[07:20] <elkbuntu> oops forgot linkage
[07:24] <elkbuntu> feel free to totally change what i put there :|
[10:25] <elkbuntu> hmm.. UWN still needs working on.. whats going to be the feature of the week?
[10:25] <Burgundavia> I didn't do one last week
[10:25] <Burgundavia> and yes, it does
[10:25] <elkbuntu> well last week had enough other stuff
[10:46] <Burgundavia> yes
[10:46] <Burgundavia> I really need to get off my butt and finish this thing
[11:13] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, ok, back from dinner, i'll help you
[11:14] <elkbuntu> do you have a list of 'feature of the week' things or something?
[11:18] <Burgundavia> ok
[11:18] <Burgundavia> hmm
[11:19] <elkbuntu> anything new and uber cool gone into repos we could feature?
[11:22] <Burgundavia> some
[11:22] <Burgundavia> you could talk about a few things
[11:23] <elkbuntu> such as?
[11:23] <Burgundavia> ltsp hackfest
[11:23] <Burgundavia> beta freeze
[11:24] <Burgundavia> new documentation for stable release updates
[11:24] <Burgundavia> I will do the last
[11:25] <elkbuntu> yeah, i'd rather that you did
[11:25] <elkbuntu> shold the ltsp go in press or community news?
[11:26] <Burgundavia> community news
[11:26] <Burgundavia> there are serveral press reports you can mention as well
[11:26] <elkbuntu> the linux.com one by jorge is probably a good start
[11:27] <elkbuntu> ok, are you going to run gobby or are we going to play via wiki
[11:27] <Burgundavia> wiki
[11:27] <elkbuntu> k
[11:28] <Burgundavia> I am writing in tomboy, so feel free to edit on the wiki
[11:28] <elkbuntu> cool
[11:30] <Burgundavia> ok, wrote the beta freeze article
[11:31] <elkbuntu> heh, im still trying to figure how to word the ltsp hackfest one
[11:32] <Burgundavia> yep
[11:34] <elkbuntu> LTSP Hackfest
[11:34] <elkbuntu> Members of the LTSP project, and developers for several distributions, gathered in Clarkston, Michigan last weekend to plot the future of LTSP, and Ubuntu was there. Jorge Castro wrote about it for [WWW]  Linux.com.
[11:34] <elkbuntu> thats what i put up, sound ok?
[11:37] <Burgundavia> mention that they are working on merging Ubuntu's LTSP into mainline LTSP
[11:37] <Burgundavia> and that Ubuntu's LTSP is the future
[11:37] <Burgundavia> TM
[11:37] <elkbuntu> lol
[11:42] <elkbuntu> Members of the LTSP project, and developers from several distributions, gathered in Clarkston, Michigan last weekend to plot the future of LTSP. Ubuntu was there to oversee the beginning of work related to merging the Ubuntu LTSP into mainline LTSP.
[11:42] <elkbuntu> that sound better?
[11:42] <Burgundavia> sounds good
[11:42] <Burgundavia> tell me about where I can read stuff, etc.
[11:42] <elkbuntu> yeah, i didnt want to add to the potential beeps to someone
[11:43] <elkbuntu> so that sentance is still there, i just didnt paste it here
[11:45] <elkbuntu> you can add your stuff on the wiki know, im out of edit mode
[11:45] <Burgundavia> ok
[11:47] <Burgundavia> editing
[11:48] <elkbuntu> for infamous bugs, wasnt there one similar nature to the xorg bug unleashed sometime this week?
[11:49] <elkbuntu> or was i imagining this?
[11:49] <Burgundavia> xorg bug?
[11:50] <elkbuntu> it was nvidia or something affected?
[11:50] <Burgundavia> hmm, no idea
[11:50] <Burgundavia> let me look through my UWN queue
[11:50] <elkbuntu> i could well be 'remembering' total crap here, so feel free to say so
[11:50] <Burgundavia> I have a gmail tag called UWN queue
[11:51] <elkbuntu> heh
[11:51] <Burgundavia> I wish I could make it public, so people could see what I think is worth writing about
[11:51] <elkbuntu> it'd be nice, yeah
[11:52] <Burgundavia> I think we would get more feedback that way
[11:52] <elkbuntu> definately. maybe forward to a publicly cached address?
[11:53] <elkbuntu> set up a uwn mailing list to send it to? <-- even better idea
[11:53] <elkbuntu> well, not better, more specific :)
[11:53] <Burgundavia> hmm, interesting idea
[11:54] <elkbuntu> would be worth trying at least
[11:54] <Burgundavia> could you find all the telepathy related packages and write a bit about that?
[11:54] <Burgundavia> or should I?
[11:54] <elkbuntu> if you knwo what it is, probably you
[11:55] <Burgundavia> there are some LTSP changes this week that are probably easier to look at
[11:56] <Burgundavia> did you see the email to edubuntu-devel about the ltsp hackfest?
[11:56] <Burgundavia> see if you missed anything there
[11:56] <Burgundavia> edubuntu-menus is a good one to write about as well
[11:57] <elkbuntu> no, im not on that list
[11:58] <elkbuntu> i'll check mailman in a sec
[12:06] <Burgundavia> you editing?
[12:06] <elkbuntu> nope
[12:07] <Burgundavia> ok, more dumping in
[12:07] <Burgundavia> I am pretty close to having to shut down
[12:08] <elkbuntu> exhausted?
[12:08] <Burgundavia> no, leaving to catch a plane
[12:08] <elkbuntu> oh
[12:09] <Burgundavia> we are looking not bad, but I am not going to release until this evening
[12:09] <Burgundavia> something else you could takl about is the addition of system-config-printer to the ubuntu repos
[12:10] <Burgundavia> talk about that fits in with the umbrella project
[12:10] <Burgundavia> the gstreamer updates are also quite interesting
[12:11] <elkbuntu> that the "legal mp3" thingie?
[12:12] <Burgundavia> no, just updates to the various bits of gstreamer
[12:20] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: can you add something to the UWN about your surveys? (is it already there?)
[12:21] <elkbuntu> it went there last week
[12:21] <MenZa> Live 'uns!"
[12:21] <elkbuntu> unless you mean an update about them?
[12:22] <Burgundavia> were the websurveys in last week?
[12:23] <elkbuntu> yep
[12:23] <elkbuntu> i launched them a week and 16 hours ago
[12:23] <elkbuntu> at 4am my time, lol
[12:23] <Klaidas> hi menza ;)
[12:24] <Burgundavia> ok, I have to make certain I have everything before I go
[12:25] <Burgundavia> please keep working
[12:25] <MenZa> hi Klaidas :)
[12:25] <elkbuntu> sure
[12:26] <MenZa> elkbuntu: your survey is dodgy.
[12:26] <elkbuntu> MenZa, how so?
[12:26] <MenZa> elkbuntu: "Windows (Pre XP)", "WindowsXP"
[12:26] <MenZa> Vista is not Pre XP.
[12:26] <MenZa> Nor is it XP
[12:26] <MenZa> :)
[12:27] <elkbuntu> then that goes to 'other
[12:27] <elkbuntu> and blame kampingkaiser for that question configuration :P
[12:28] <MenZa> :D
[12:28] <MenZa> elkbuntu: results sent.
[12:28] <MenZa> :)
[12:28] <elkbuntu> :)
[12:29] <Klaidas> hmm, what survey?
[12:30] <elkbuntu> http://surveys.geekosophical.net
[12:30] <Klaidas> hmm
[12:33] <elkbuntu> that would be him going
[12:39] <Klaidas> *submitted*
[12:43] <elkbuntu> yay
[12:44] <MenZa> :D
[12:44] <MenZa> elkbuntu: how many surveys have you gotten so far?
[12:45] <elkbuntu> 3,486 current, 299 potential, 848 preivous = 4,633
[05:32] <poningru> hmm
[05:44] <poningru> elkbuntu: I figured it out
[05:44] <poningru> I installed .4
[05:44] <poningru> the edgy one
[05:45] <poningru> elkbuntu: upgrade your gobby
[05:45] <elkbuntu> poningru, sec
[05:46] <elkbuntu> poningru, im currently installing knot3 on my laptop
[05:48] <poningru> yeah trying to figure out how to accommodate both versions with sobby
[05:49] <elkbuntu> the short answer is probably 'you cant'
[05:51] <poningru> yeah I was thinking of having both daemons running at the same time
[05:51] <poningru> and then updating the file every 2 mins or something
[05:51] <poningru> but too much work
[05:54] <elkbuntu> yeah
[05:55] <elkbuntu> we need a 'feature of the week' still, since i cant quite get my mind around the things corey suggested
[06:46] <elkbuntu> poningru, you havent gobbied any more on the UWN, have you?
[06:46] <poningru> nope
[07:17] <ompaul> elkbuntu, is it done yet?
[07:18] <Klaidas> are we there yet? :)
[07:18] <ompaul> daddy
[07:34] <poningru> uwn is not done yet
[08:09] <ompaul> issue 14?
[08:09] <ompaul> sorry
[08:10] <ompaul> did anyone ask riddel for his take on akademy?
[08:10] <ompaul> I only went to one talk at it - and it was an FSF one
[08:10] <ompaul> or FSFE one