[12:01] <odla> vickythedoc: are you behind a firewall?
[12:01] <vickythedoc> whats that viator
[12:01] <Johnutz> boink: u use mplayer for mp3 radio movies all isn't it ?
[12:01] <viator> or some other programs that are sip compliant maybe
[12:01] <vickythedoc> erm i dont know odla
[12:01] <troughton> i am running a compaq priesario v 6000
[12:01] <viator> ekiga is installed on your pc already
[12:01] <odla> vickythedoc: is it your personal home network?
[12:01] <viator> its a softphone /chat software
[12:01] <vickythedoc> yes odla
[12:02] <odla> then you probably don't have a firewall unless you set it up
[12:02] <viator> it can work with netmeeting
[12:02] <odla> vickythedoc: so you probably don't have the correct ports open?
[12:02] <viator> whoops
[12:02] <vickythedoc> i went into the router and added amsn as a special program and put in the ports it should be but it didnt seem to help at all
[12:02] <_56k> im trying to install ubuntu on a raid0: i looked at both of the wiki howtos, and neither of them work. I am able to get everything going up to the bootloader part. Lilo fails (apparently only supports booting from raid 1), and so does grub, but grub is not descriptitve at all (error opening termianal: bterm). Does anyone have any experience getting 6.06 installed on raid0 ?
[12:03] <stefg> _56k: the desktop CD is incapable of installing on raid. you'll need an alternate install CD
[12:03] <_56k> the alternate install cd fails too, alas
[12:04] <stefg> _56k: what controller? HW or SW raid?
[12:04] <_56k> sw
[12:04] <Jbirk> nobody has tested the 7300 GT
[12:04] <Jbirk> ?
[12:04] <imperfect-> Anyone know if there is a JMIcron JMB361 patch
[12:04] <_56k> im not actually sure of the controller naame
[12:04] <imperfect-> for 2.6.15
[12:04] <vickythedoc> any ideas odla
[12:04] <Jbirk> What is the best card on there?
[12:04] <epidemik> how do you burn cds
[12:05] <troughton> i have a compaq prisario v 6000 and have tryed all the help files and forums google help and many other sorces but still cant get the sound working the only driversfor linux i have found are for suse and are almost imposible to install can anyone help ??
[12:05] <odla> vickythedoc: i have no ideas if you're sure you set up the router correctly, maybe reboot :)
[12:05] <epidemik> i have an iso i want to burn
[12:05] <odla> but i doubt it'll help
[12:05] <_56k> epidemik cdrecord
[12:05] <odla> epidemik: you can burn it with nautilus
[12:05] <georgy> troughton,: what's your card ?
[12:05] <stefg> _56k: i played with it a while ago (but gave up because no noticeable performance gains, but inconvinience in backing up) So i had it working, but it has been quite a while ago
[12:05] <vickythedoc> ok thanks odla, im so usless at comps, might give up and go back to windows
[12:06] <_56k> hmm hmm
[12:06] <_56k> thanks for the help stefg
[12:06] <troughton> it is inbuilt in to the compaq its a nvida
[12:06] <viator> ekiga needs to make its windows port easier to install!
[12:06] <_56k> well, i have 2 160 gb hdds -- any suggestion how i should set them up otherwise? :)
[12:06] <epidemik> odla: how do i get nautilus
[12:06] <odla> vickythedoc: well don't give up so quickly!  i'm sure if you stick around here for a bit someone can help you
[12:06] <epidemik> sudo apt-get install __________
[12:06] <odla> epidemik: it's the gnome file manager
[12:06] <viator> jeez my mother couldnt install that  yeah i understand its very beta
[12:06] <epidemik> odla: oh okay
[12:06] <magneticubuntu> guys: how to check a tarball to see if its not corrupted
[12:07] <epidemik> odla: so how do i burn with it?
[12:07] <odla> epidemik: navigate to the .iso file and right click it and click write to disk/cd whatever it says
[12:07] <georgy> troughton : do lspci in a terminal, and watch the line about the soundcard
[12:07] <_56k> i could install / on one, and /home on theother, but im pretty damed sure that / wont ever get anywhrere near 160
[12:07] <epidemik> odla thanks
[12:07] <odla> epidemik: np
[12:08] <odla> _56k: / 160 GB?
[12:08] <viator> windows users are used to having everything handed to them
[12:08] <odla> _56k:  / like 10 GB is more than plenty :)
[12:09] <Xenguy> feel the love
[12:09] <Farrier> Having a few small problems getting JDK1.3.1 running: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24579 Help? Advice? Mockery? :(
[12:09] <_56k> odla: thats exacly why i wanted a raid :(
[12:09] <viator> thats why ms can take control from them
[12:09] <viator> so easily
[12:09] <nadon> can i edit xorg.conf in ctrl+alt+f1 while gnome is running at ctrl+alt+f7?
[12:10] <viator> farrier your a java developer?
[12:10] <georgy> nadon : yes
[12:10] <_56k> nadon yeah you can edit it, but you gotta restart for changes to take effect
[12:10] <Jowi> nadon: yes. but you need to restart xorg in order for the changes to take effect
[12:10] <Farrier> viator: for my sins, yes. But not if I can't get this installed :(
[12:11] <troughton> nvidia coporation mcp51 high definition audio (rev a2)
[12:11] <viator> isnt jdk in the repos
[12:11] <stefg> _56k: the key lies in clever parallel disk-accesses... if you have 2 identical disk, first measure is using both of them for swap, and putting /tmp in a tmpfs... then spread /home and /usr to different drives
[12:11] <Jowi> nadon: the same goes for almost everything in a linux system. you can install a new firefox while you use firefox. the new version is used once you exit the application and start it again.
[12:11] <nadon> ok
[12:11] <TheGateKeeper> anyone use ekiga?
[12:12] <benjamindaines> What's the best GUI FTP server app?
[12:12] <alror> hello,  i want to install a soft gateway scanner on my network but i dont know how to configure pc installed scanner. can you help me?
[12:12] <viator> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[12:12] <Farrier> viator: not this version of jdk no.
[12:12] <viator> ?
[12:12] <viator> i see
[12:12] <georgy> alror : nast
[12:12] <Xenguy> benjamindaines: there is no best (but checkout 'vsftpd')
[12:12] <alror> what is nast?
[12:12] <Farrier> viator: *has* to be this version for compatibility reasons :(
[12:12] <Xenguy> benjamindaines: I doubt it is GUI BTW
[12:12] <viator> i understand
[12:12] <alror> i have interscan viruswall for linux
[12:13] <Xenguy> benjamindaines: I'm assuming you wanted a server, not a client also
[12:13] <viator> i use ekiga  sometimes
[12:13] <troughton> gregory nvidia coporation mcp51 high definition audio (rev 2)
[12:13] <we2by> what is the terminal called on gnome?
[12:13] <viator> but only with a few frineds
[12:13] <we2by> xterm? aterm?
[12:13] <viator> gnome terminal
[12:13] <viator> lol
[12:13] <Xenguy> we2by: gnome-terminal
[12:13] <we2by> ok
[12:13] <_56k> guys, any idea if i can install lilo and /boot on a small 10 gig drive, and then ahve the rest of / on a raid 0?
[12:13] <stefg> we2by: gnome-terminal (duh!)
[12:14] <georgy> alror: a gateway, hostname and more network scanner
[12:14] <we2by> :P
[12:14] <Jbirk> It doesn't have 7300 GT listed
[12:14] <Jbirk> Will that work?
[12:14] <Jbirk> Please tell me what you guys thing
[12:14] <audibel> omg wireless setup was so easy
[12:14] <stefg> _56k: don't use lilo... use grub
[12:14] <Byan> how do I use wget to write the downloaded file to a specific file, instead of just downloading in the directory
[12:14] <Jbirk> Yes or no:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814130025
[12:14] <audibel> I spent 5+ hours trying to get it to work in Source Mage before I gave up
[12:14] <Xenguy> Byan: just mv it after d/l ?
[12:15] <_56k> stefg: lilo wont install either, and when i use the boot cd in rescue mode, "# grub" fails too
[12:15] <Byan> Xenguy: I guess
[12:15] <vickythedoc> can anyone help set up my webcam?
[12:15] <Byan> Xenguy: what's the rename command?
[12:15] <audibel> now I just need to find out what holds the configuration so I can can get Source Mage going
[12:15] <Xenguy> Byan: mv
[12:15] <neXenta> hello all
[12:15] <Byan> oh, I see
[12:15] <Byan> ok
[12:16] <fdoving> Byan: wget -O file http://somewhere.com/otherfile
[12:16] <alror> georgy: gateway pc ip is 192.168.1.254 and hostname is rohan, and network scanner software is trend micro viruswall. but i think our gateway pc has to have two ethernet. am i wrong?
[12:16] <stefg> _56k: ??? update-grub and grub-install would be the ones to run
[12:16] <Byan> fdoving: thanks
[12:16] <georgy> alror: you right
[12:17] <_56k> stefg ill try that. cant you edit and update grub with "grub" which then opens a new grub terminal?
[12:17] <qmf> can someone point me in the direction for the screensaver config file? everytime it loads/i open the screen saver config it boots me back to login
[12:17] <viator> vickthedoc
[12:17] <viator> have you tried kopete?
[12:18] <alror> georgy: one ethernet is to be routed to external router, and the other is to be internal network?
[12:18] <benjamindaines> Xenguy, do you know of one that is GUI
[12:18] <stefg> _56k: yes, you could run grub in a terminal, but only on an installed system IIRC
[12:18] <georgy> alror: I guess
[12:18] <we2by> how do I set my desktop icons to a smaller size???/
[12:18] <Xenguy> benjamindaines: server or client?
[12:18] <_56k> icic
[12:18] <_56k> ill try grub-install
[12:18] <orbin> we2by: right-click stretch
[12:18] <benjamindaines> server Xenguy
[12:18] <viator> vickythedoc: try kopete
[12:19] <we2by> awsome!
[12:19] <we2by> I luv this
[12:19] <Xenguy> benjamindaines: typically in linux, server apps are non-gui (servers are usually run without X for example, to save server resources)
[12:19] <alror> georgy: how can i find documentation about gateway scanner configuration on a pc installed linux. do you know a source?
[12:20] <asdx> anyone already tried the new nvidia drivers with aiglx/compiz?
[12:20] <georgy> alror: no
[12:20] <u4a> ubuntu-ppc on ibook how can I automate the system to start at 10am all days?
[12:20] <asdx> the 9xxx beta one
[12:20] <benjamindaines> Xenguy, =[ i looked for the one you said to but i didnt find it in the package manager app... know of a good one that's in there?
[12:20] <_56k> stefg: well the cmd isnt in $PATH, any idea where it is?
[12:20] <xopher> asdx, some people have reported it to work, others not
[12:20] <xopher> seems you need xorg 7.1 (edgy) though
[12:20] <clemyeats> _56k: which command ?
[12:20] <Byan> fdoving: will that auto overwrite? or do I need another flag for that?
[12:21] <stefg> _56k: /sbin
[12:21] <_56k> oh nvm, i did it backwards -_-
[12:21] <Xenguy> benjamindaines: vsftpd is there (in main)
[12:21] <Xenguy> benjamindaines: apt-cache show vsftpd
[12:22] <stefg> _56k: and make sure to have root privileges
[12:22] <benjamindaines> Xenguy, actually I changed my mind, what I want is an HTTP server that can be accessed from online, logged into and have files uploaded and downloaded all from the browser
[12:22] <we2by> how can I make ubuntu dance?
[12:22] <fdoving> Byan: that will autooverwrite.
[12:22] <we2by> I mean is there a dancer like wiindows has?
[12:22] <we2by> does*
[12:22] <Dr_willis> dancer?
[12:23] <Byan> fdoving: k, thanks
[12:23] <troughton> any help please i am running a compaq presario v6000 with a nvidia corporation MCP51 high definition audio card in the only drivers i can find are for suse linux and in very dificult to install i have been through the help pages on ubuntu the webforums and other sorces but still cant get my sound working can anyone help ?
[12:23] <Dr_willis> this eye candy obsession is getting rather sad.
[12:23] <Dr_willis> :P
[12:23] <we2by> yea. a dancer that dance on your screen when you have music on
[12:23] <_56k> "/dev/mapper/vg0-root does not have any corresponding bios drives"
[12:23] <Dr_willis> I imagine theres some gdesklet/superkaramba stuff that can do that. :P
[12:23] <Xenguy> benjamindaines: I don't know of such an app
[12:23] <Dr_willis> or a windowmaker dock.
[12:24] <clemyeats> _56k: make kids. They dance in your house when you put music on :)
[12:24] <Renan_s2> there is a windowmaker dock to do it
[12:24] <Renan_s2> !info wmtux
[12:24] <ubotu> Package wmtux does not exist in any distro I know
[12:24] <_56k> clemyeats: are you talking to me? haha what?
[12:24] <Dr_willis> thers several dockapplets - i recall a dancing TUx, and a dancing space ghost.
[12:24] <Renan_s2> !info wmdisco
[12:24] <ubotu> Package wmdisco does not exist in any distro I know
[12:24] <Renan_s2> I don't remember the name...
[12:24] <we2by> gdesklet is not working ok with ocmpiz
[12:24] <we2by> compiz*
[12:24] <clemyeats> _56k: yes, I was only kidding :)
[12:24] <asdx> someone already tried aiglx/compiz with the wew 9xxx beta drivers?
[12:24] <Dr_willis> we2by,  gee - you DO have the eye candy addiction.
[12:25] <Renan_s2> There are some great dockapplets for WindowMaker.
[12:25] <we2by> hehe :)
[12:25] <matju> hi. something that I don't know, has broken the lo interface. it's not visible with /sbin/route, and trying to add it back (route -add 127.0.0.0/8 lo) says Network is Down. gnome's network conf program doesn't want to start anymore.
[12:25] <Dr_willis> we need a windowmaker-ubuntu - a winubuntu
[12:25] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:25] <matju> any ideas of things i can try / look for ?
[12:25] <we2by> winubuntu?
[12:25] <Dr_willis> or at least a windowmaker-desktop meta-package
[12:25] <phaedrus444> hehe
[12:25] <Dr_willis> wubuntu
[12:25] <we2by> I don't like that win part
[12:25] <Dr_willis> and a matchbox-desktop
[12:26] <we2by> Ubuntu XL
[12:26] <stefg> we need trouble free kernels in the first place , cough, cough
[12:26] <qmf> i used the gconf editor to change my screensaver settings in the end.
[12:26] <Dr_willis> Ive had no troubles with my Kernels.. :P
[12:26] <troughton> any help please i am running a compaq presario v6000 with a nvidia corporation MCP51 high definition audio card in the only drivers i can find are for suse linux and in very dificult to install i have been through the help pages on ubuntu the webforums and other sorces but still cant get my sound working can anyone help ?
[12:27] <TLE> Is there a website that has encoder line options for sound-juicer ?
[12:27] <georgy> troughton : again, do you know you card ?
[12:27] <Jowi> Dr_willis: what? no rox + pekwm = ropebuntu
[12:28] <TLE> I mean where you can edit the profiles you can write some sort of gstreamer options but I can'y find docs on them
[12:28] <Jowi> :)
[12:28] <Dr_willis> Jowi,  olvwmubuntu
[12:28] <troughton> georgy again it is listed as nvidia coporation mcp51
[12:28] <Roger__> hey... just installed ubuntu successfully... using it right now... 18GB was enough space =) wondering what is the "favorite" irc client?
[12:28] <we2by> how do I set  what player to use by defualt for mp3 files?
[12:28] <Johnutz> except that it is free WHY do u USE UBUNTU instead WINDOWS ???
[12:28] <Overand> Roger__: that's subjective
[12:29] <D-Man`> does anyone know of a good VOICE 2 TEXT prog for Ubuntu
[12:29] <Johnutz> pls all answer :)
[12:29] <Overand> Johnutz: "free" has more than one meaning
[12:29] <Xenguy> Roger__: xchat (GUI); irssi (console)
[12:29] <Roger__> Overand: thus the quotes around "favorite" :)
[12:29] <Overand> ubuntu is 'free' as in 'free to use however you want'
[12:29] <Overand> 'free to modify'
[12:29] <monkd> Hello all
[12:29] <clemyeats> freedom
[12:29] <Overand> and Roger__ i agree with xenguy
[12:29] <TLE> D-Man`: there's festival, but I don't know if I would call it good
[12:29] <monkd> is there a quick way to see what ports are open on my machine.. other than nmap?>
[12:29] <Overand> i use irssi
[12:29] <Roger__> Xen: yeah, i'm using irssi right now ... i've heard people like xchat.. i'll give that a try... thnx
[12:29] <Overand> monkd: netstat -ln
[12:29] <matju> Roger__: i use xchat, but iirc it's not in Ubuntu, though you could get it by enabling the use of Debian-stable packages
[12:29] <D-Man`> TLE:  tks   I'll look for it
[12:29] <monkd> thx
[12:29] <Overand> that's -l for listening, -n for numbers
[12:29] <clemyeats> Konversation is great IMHO.
[12:30] <Overand> without the -n it'll use names and resolve IPs etc
[12:30] <Jowi> !info xchat
[12:30] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[12:30] <Roger__> cool ... you all rock and so does ubuntu keep up the good work!!!
[12:30] <boink> !irssi
[12:30] <ubotu> irssi is a command line interface IRC client ( "sudo apt-get install irssi" without the quotes to try it out )
[12:30] <Overand> irssi is my favorite, and it's stable
[12:30] <Overand> it's been running for...
[12:30] <boink> I use it too
[12:30] <Overand> 237 on my debian box =] 
[12:30] <Overand> er 237 days
[12:30] <troughton> georgy any ideas ??
[12:30] <Johnutz> good news. adobe make righ now tests on UBUNTU os for next version of flash player v 9. :)
[12:31] <Overand> and i've seen no indication that the more recent version in ubuntu is any less solid =] 
[12:31] <boink> ta
[12:31] <bit`> Johnutz, What do you mean by 'free'? Like the first 'free' sample a drug pusher gives you? ;)
[12:31] <Overand> heh
[12:31] <Johnutz> :)
[12:31] <viator> ya need alsa 1.0.11rc3
[12:31] <viator> or better
[12:31] <viator> for that card to function properly
[12:31] <viator> go get it
[12:31] <Overand> bit`: i've never met a 'pusher'
[12:32] <vickythedoc> *screams*
[12:32] <Johnutz> in 30 min UBUNTU 6.06 alternative will be downloaded :)
[12:33] <viator> troughton you get that
[12:33] <conn> hey Amaranth, it didn't work again, but I'm modifying the source now
[12:33] <conn> (the patches aren't there)
[12:33] <troughton> the alsa 10.11 or better
[12:33] <viator> vickythedoc what?
[12:33] <viator> ya need alsa 1.0.11rc3
[12:34] <vickythedoc> it wont work viator
[12:34] <viator> kopete
[12:34] <viator> ?
[12:34] <Byan> I've got an init.d script written, how do I link it, ect.?
[12:34] <Johnutz> btw which gonne be ? gnome vs kde ?
[12:34] <clemyeats> Byan: for runlevel 2 ?
[12:34] <troughton> ok thanks viator will try that
[12:34] <boink> Byan: man update-rc.d
[12:34] <georgy> troughton : have look at : http://jrblevin.freeshell.org/weblog/linux/mcp51-alsa
[12:34] <boink> !update-rc.d
[12:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about update-rc.d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:35] <boink> hmm
[12:35] <clemyeats> Byan: you create a link to it in /etc/rc2.d/
[12:35] <D-Man`> TLE:  are you sure festival does VOICE -> TEXT   it appears to work just the opposite
[12:35] <vickythedoc> i dont know how to get that viator
[12:35] <Byan> clemyeats: ok...
[12:35] <k3nny> hi all
[12:35] <Byan> why 2?
[12:35] <clemyeats> Byan: links in this directory are run by alphabetic order, hence the numbers...
[12:35] <troughton> ok thaks
[12:35] <Byan> and how do I link it?
[12:35] <troughton> will let u know how it gose
[12:35] <clemyeats> Byan: /etc/inittab tells you the default runlevel.. I believe it's 2 in ubuntu.
[12:35] <k3nny> is here anybody with a self-compiled kernel and working fglrx?
[12:36] <clemyeats> Byan: by using ln -s
[12:36] <viator> vicky its in the repos
[12:36] <viator> you can use add remove programs or
[12:36] <viator> synaptic
[12:36] <TLE> D-Man`: *Graps his head and goes to sleep* sorry man my mistake
[12:36] <viator> or the command line
[12:36] <D-Man`> TLE:  np   ;)
[12:37] <janbanan> I just posted a new thread on the forum but it's not there. why?
[12:37] <avanderveen> Hey, when I go to boot into Ubuntu (live CD Dapper 6.06 LTS) it says "Failed to load X-Server" or something like that. And then for the error it says no screens found or something
[12:37] <Paddy_EIRE> janbanan: maybe it takes a while to update??
[12:37] <Byan> clemyeats: ok
[12:37] <avanderveen> sorry for the vagueness
[12:37] <_56k> dammit
[12:37] <_56k> im really unsure what to do now
[12:38] <_56k> im THINKING
[12:38] <_56k> ughh
[12:38] <_56k> shit
[12:38] <_56k> gotta love when linux works correctly -_-
[12:38] <avanderveen> lol
[12:38] <clemyeats> avanderveen: there's a safe graphic mode or something like that when you boot the CD... try that.
[12:38] <netzmeister> hrhr
[12:38] <k3nny> is here anybody with a self-compiled kernel and working fglrx?
[12:38] <janbanan> Paddy_EIRE, maby it does ;) hope so. don't have the time to write all that again
[12:38] <avanderveen> ok
[12:38] <avanderveen> thnx
[12:38] <viator> ill get my cam and test that it works vicky
[12:38] <viator> and then
[12:38] <netzmeister> "PCI BIOS Bug : MCFG area at f0000000 is not E820-reserved"  wth??
[12:38] <viator> ill walk you through  it
[12:39] <viator> but while im doing that
[12:39] <viator> make sure your cam is supported
[12:39] <netzmeister> Toshiba Tecra A8
[12:39] <MugginsM> netz: I get that a lot
[12:39] <Paddy_EIRE> janbanan: did you check your profile to see if its in the posts made by you section? if it is then you wont have to type agian
[12:39] <viator> type the model  into google floowed by the word linux
[12:39] <netzmeister> MugginsM: Okay, but my Notebook doesn't boot..
[12:39] <Paddy_EIRE> *again
[12:39] <ncalpunker> What is a reasonable partition size for ubuntu?  I plan on trying to use my existing ntfs system for a lot of things too.
[12:39] <viator> see what comes up
[12:39] <clemyeats> ncalpunker: 10Go
[12:39] <MugginsM> netz: mine's a desktop, but it only boots into Linux maybe one in three times
[12:40] <ncalpunker> thanks.
[12:40] <netzmeister> MugginsM: It hangs after these two lines..
[12:40] <MugginsM> if I fiddle with BIOS ACPI settings I can get Linux to work every time, but then Windows doesn't boot at all
[12:40] <Paddy_EIRE> ncalpunker: whats the size of the drive
[12:40] <vickythedoc> i got it viator, now what?
[12:40] <Benjamindaines> Ok time for round 2 of my questions... I need to get a Linksys Wireless B USB adapter to work with ubuntu (model number: WUSB11 version 2.8)
[12:40] <ncalpunker> 80gig
[12:40] <ncalpunker> But I am a ton of windows stuff on there still and have about 65gigs used
[12:40] <viator> Open the Kopete configuration dialog. Go to the device section. Your webcam should turn on and you should see the picture in the preview
[12:41] <Paddy_EIRE> ncalpunker: i would go half and half then ....why not
[12:41] <we2by> hexadecimal is base 16??
[12:41] <vickythedoc> its just blue viator
[12:41] <lupine_85> yes :)
[12:41] <lupine_85> 0-f to be precise (rather than 0-9)
[12:41] <clemyeats> we2by: sure thing :) the name says it.
[12:41] <lupine_85> f == 15
[12:41] <viator> hmm
[12:42] <audibel> my synaptics pointer device on my laptop is highlighting everything everytime I touch it... anyone had the problem before?
[12:42] <xgmm> hello, I have a problem, I want to ask how to access hd1 (winXP) on ubuntu ? When I try to open it I get error that I dont have permissions to do that, how to get those permissions ?
[12:42] <lupine_85> ubotu: tell Benjamindaines about wifi
[12:42] <holit> hello
[12:42] <holit> how can i install SQL with apt-get ?
[12:42] <viator> it works fine on my mepsi box
[12:42] <holit> sudo apt-get install sql?
[12:42] <lupine_85> Benjamindaines: there's a list of supported cards on the wiki somewhere - WUSB11 should be listed
[12:42] <viator> im going to see if i can see whats different
[12:42] <master_of_master> hi, is it normal that Xorg uses 40-50% of the CPU ?
[12:42] <vickythedoc> *cries*
[12:42] <Paddy_EIRE> ncalpunker: well what do you intend on doing with ubuntu, keep in mind that ntfs write dont really exist in a stable way yet
[12:43] <viator> mepis that is
[12:43] <ncalpunker> I am going to try it out for a while, and if I can work with it, I will keep it.
[12:43] <famousdoofy> this question probably wont be liked by people here, but is it possible to install .NET on ubuntu? as in allow me to run ASP.NET web pages on ubuntu/apache?
[12:43] <stefg> !fuse
[12:43] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[12:43] <Paddy_EIRE> ncalpunker: or you could backup your music, movies and docs then get rid of windows :)
[12:43] <maddash> does anyone know how to remove gnome completely from ubuntu?
[12:43] <ncalpunker> But I need to see if I can get wine running for some stuff.
[12:43] <xgmm> hello, I have a problem, I want to ask how to access hd1 (winXP) on ubuntu ? When I try to open it I get error that I dont have permissions to do that, how to get those permissions ?
[12:43] <boink> apt-get remove gnome ?
[12:44] <stefg> !mount
[12:44] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[12:44] <prg2020> Hi, can someone help me with a network-manager (GNOME) issue?
[12:44] <Paddy_EIRE> ncalpunker: in that case you only need 2 gig for root partition and about double your ram for swap
[12:44] <xgmm> what is my root password :?
[12:44] <xgmm> :D
[12:44] <holit> how can i install SQL with apt-get ?
[12:44] <georgy> !ask
[12:44] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:44] <stefg> !root
[12:44] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:44] <xgmm> no realy...
[12:44] <smax> hi
[12:45] <smax> is there a more respected cd player than sound juicer?  the quality is just terrable
[12:45] <Johnutz> what do u use for cd/dvd/ writing ?
[12:45] <Paddy_EIRE> ncalpunker: if you decide to keep ubuntu though that 2 gig is'nt really of any use
[12:45] <jatt> holit: SQL is not a program, are you trying to install a database?
[12:45] <smax> anything with an equilizer?
[12:45] <ncalpunker> Does the partition tool take a long time to go from step 5 to 6?
[12:45] <xgmm> how to know what is root password on my mashine ?
[12:45] <lakcaj> xgmm, if there is an icon on the desktop for that partition, I think you can right-click on it an mount it writeable
[12:45] <prg2020> Network manager tries to connect to EVERY locked network it sees, and presents an entry box for the keyring for EACH one.  Every time I turn on my PC I have to deal with at least three windows.
[12:45] <holit> jatt, yes. i need sql database.
[12:45] <lupine_85> xgmm: it is:
[12:45] <lupine_85> i.e. there isn't one ;)
[12:45] <jatt> holit: which one?
[12:45] <Johnutz> what do u use for cd/dvd/ writing ?
[12:45] <maddash> boink: if it were that simple, I would have done it already
[12:45] <lupine_85> use sudo
[12:45] <we2by> omg, scilab-gtk is such a great software.
[12:46] <xgmm> there is no such option
[12:46] <holit> jatt, i dont know, i just need database
[12:46] <stefg> !mulimedia
[12:46] <stefg> !multimedia
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mulimedia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <we2by> why can't  ubuntu include scilab in the iso
[12:46] <Paddy_EIRE> xgmm:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[12:46] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[12:46] <lakcaj> Johnutz, k3b, gnomebaker, nautilus cd burner
[12:46] <jatt> holit: take a look to sqlite then, it is available in the repositories. It is the smallest database engine you can find in ubuntu.
[12:46] <smax> !multimedia
[12:46] <Johnutz> lakcaj: but hich is the best ?
[12:46] <jatt> holit: (it is available in the universe repository).
[12:46] <Roger__> does anyone happen to know how often the php5 package is updated in synaptic? The package listed there is 5.1.2 which has a few considerable bugs
[12:46] <viator> ok my cam
[12:47] <smax> cool than man
[12:47] <viator> an intel easy pc
[12:47] <viator> is working
[12:47] <viator> with the vanilla ubuntu install
[12:47] <holit> ok
[12:47] <maddash> anyone have an idea of how to swap out gnome completely (with Xfce4) w/o installing xubuntu (which seems to be the only thing Google brings up)?
[12:47] <holit> i ll try to install, thank yu
[12:47] <viator> but i look bluish /purple
[12:47] <asdx> now that the nvidia 9xxx beta drivers is out and it works with aiglx, will we get metacity with composite support for edgy?
[12:47] <lakcaj> Johnutz, they all have their advantages/disadvantages.  Honestly, I think k3b is the best, but is uses the qt toolkit (kde).  It run perfectly fine in gnome, but some people don't like using kde apps in gnome
[12:47] <avanderveen> Hey, I'm back... I think that my monitor's messed I booted into Graphics Safe Mode from the live CD and the screen was black and it stayed black... I think it's just that my monitor's messed cause it's been this way before even in XP
[12:47] <vickythedoc> i dont get what you mean viator, just tell me what to try
[12:48] <viator> vicky what camera do you have
[12:48] <vickythedoc> logitec clicksmart 310
[12:48] <Johnutz> lakcaj: do u use ubuntu or kubuntu ? :)
[12:48] <famousdoofy> is there a project for the mono project?
[12:48] <lakcaj> Johnutz, ubuntu
[12:48] <famousdoofy> make that a package from the repositories
[12:49] <viator> heh same as my mom ok 1 sec
[12:49] <stefg> !mono
[12:49] <ubotu> mono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.13.6-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[12:49] <Johnutz> lakcaj: ... and have qt toolkit...
[12:49] <xgmm> what is the command on terminal to change password ?
[12:49] <lakcaj> Johnutz, yeah - it's not a big deal.  If you use synaptic or apt to install k3b, it will pull in all the dependencies it needs.
[12:49] <ERGLupin> hi Im kind of new to linux and was looking at package list and dependcies and couldnt help but wonder, is there not a way to download like all the libraries at once and install them...
[12:49] <jatt> famousdoofy: sure, mono-project.com
[12:50] <lakcaj> Johnutz, but gnomebaker is also very nice, as it gtk (gnome)
[12:50] <Johnutz> lakcaj: :)
[12:50] <famousdoofy> jatt: in the repositories, i was just trying to keep it simpler if i could
[12:51] <ERGLupin> yes no maybe
[12:51] <lakcaj> Johnutz, also look at graveman, another gnome CD writing app.
[12:51] <lakcaj> so many choices :)
[12:51] <Johnutz> lakcaj: u used graveman
[12:51] <Johnutz> it was preety ok
[12:52] <lakcaj> :)
[12:52] <jatt> famousdoofy: mono packages are available in the main repository. The compiler version is 1.1.13.6. (version 1.1.17.0 was already released by the mono project though).
[12:53] <famousdoofy> i really prefer to use apt so ill probably just use 1.1.13.6
[12:53] <Johnutz> lakcaj: i have windows now. but i have a strong feeling to switch to ubuntu. i do not know why. but the feeling became stronger
[12:53] <viator> ok
[12:53] <ERGLupin> ...
[12:53] <xgmm> I just installed UBUNTU and i knnow my account password, but what is root password ? and how to access root from shell ?
[12:53] <viator> vicky you need to get the spca5xx driver
[12:53] <famousdoofy> jatt: it makes my life so much easier in regards to version updates
[12:53] <georgy> !sudo
[12:53] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:53] <Johnutz> xgmm: use sudo
[12:53] <lakcaj> Johnutz, well, I've been using linux exclusively for almost 10 years, and haven't looked back.  Good luck and have fun if you end up installing ubuntu - it's a great distro.
[12:53] <xgmm> and how to get the password?
[12:53] <Johnutz> xgmm: do hange root password type : sudo passwd
[12:54] <vickythedoc> where would i find it viator?
[12:54] <lakcaj> xgmm, ubuntu uses sudo (no root account)
[12:54] <Johnutz> lakcaj: 10 years ???? WOW
[12:54] <xgmm> when i write sudo it asks password
[12:54] <xgmm> so what should i write ?
[12:54] <Johnutz> lakcaj: never wonder how is win 2000 XP.. or vista ?
[12:55] <georgy> xgmm, : your password
[12:55] <viator> im looking mself
[12:55] <xgmm> thanks
[12:55] <xgmm> worked :}
[12:55] <xgmm> passwd: password updated successfully
[12:55] <xgmm> how to login to gnome as root ?
[12:55] <Johnutz> lakcaj: never wonder how is win 2000 XP.. or vista ?
[12:55] <lakcaj> Johnutz, I use windows at work, and see my friends using their machines.  I like the freedom, package management, and over feel of linux a lot more
[12:56] <xgmm> is it possible...
[12:56] <prg2020> Has anyone experienced this issue before: Network manager tries to connect to EVERY locked network it sees, and presents an entry box for the keyring for EACH one.  Every time I turn on my PC I have to deal with at least three keyring requests.
[12:56] <Johnutz> lakcaj: but why ? windows does not give freedom and stability ?
[12:57] <nemlah> Uhhhh
[12:57] <nemlah> Hello everyone
[12:57] <nemlah> !
[12:57] <Wyzard> prg2020: I've seen it do that, though only for the two wireless networks I've connected to in the past, and not my neighbors' networks that I can see but have never used
[12:57] <lakcaj> Johnutz, windows is pretty stable, sure, but I just like the philosophy and community that linux provides more.  I'm not evangelical (sp?) about it, it's just a preference
[12:57] <Wyzard> prg2020: dunno of a fix though
[12:57] <xgmm> is it possible to mount hd0 (winxp) on ubuntu, the winxp file system is ntfs
[12:57] <TestDrivenBug> I just installed ubuntu, in my system upgrade, I see two linux images - 2.6.15-26 and 27. Do I have to download -26?
[12:57] <ERGLupin> too me Linux seems like a Masochistic choice...
[12:57] <nemlah> I am having some problems with declaring my primary monitor in xorg
[12:57] <prg2020> Wyzard:  Do you know where the config files for network manager are kept?
[12:57] <viator> http://mxhaard.free.fr/download.html
[12:58] <viator> right there
[12:58] <Wyzard> TestDrivenBug: no
[12:58] <viator> maybe the debian version
[12:58] <Wyzard> prg2020: I don't, sorry
[12:58] <npowell> I am having trouble installing java 1.5 on Dapper 6.06 server AMD 64. Does anyone know about this process?
[12:58] <famousdoofy> ERGLupin: why do you say that??
[12:58] <lakcaj> npowell, isn't it in the repos?
[12:58] <Johnutz> lakcaj: ok friend. bye 4 the oment . I will boot with live cd
[12:58] <stefg> !java
[12:58] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:58] <Johnutz> :)
[12:58] <TestDrivenBug> Wyzard: ya, so how how can make this behavior stop, i certain want latest version -27. I though installing would fix it. I cannot discard rev 26
[12:58] <admin_> what is the comand to unmount something
[12:59] <MugginsM> umount
[12:59] <Johnutz> sudo umount /XX
[12:59] <admin_> ok thx
[12:59] <MugginsM> note: umount not being called unmount it regarded as one of UNIXes biggest mistakes
[12:59] <Wyzard> TestDrivenBug: You're saying the update manager wants to install both?
[12:59] <Jaak_> how do i get my Fn + Swap between lcd and display button to work otherwise, now it just puts a clone on the other display, but i want it to swap and use other res (like it does in win)
[12:59] <lakcaj> Johnutz, ok - good luck
[01:00] <npowell> When I have searched in synaptic, just the older 1.4.2 gcj version of java seems to be ther.
[01:00] <ToHellWithGA> what command can i type to list all of my installed packages by name?
[01:00] <ERGLupin> famousdoofy well at least in my experinces its a pain in the ass hard to get anything to work the way its suppose to where as Windows is just pardon the pun plug and play
[01:00] <lakcaj> ToHellWithGA, dpkg -l
[01:00] <matju> MugginsM: it's an easy one to fix and after 30 years it's still not fixed, so wtf?
[01:00] <npowell> I think I have the multiverse enabled though.
[01:00] <ToHellWithGA> thanks lakcaj
[01:00] <TestDrivenBug> Wyzard: yes
[01:00] <jatt> the second biggest mistake was calling creat instead of create
[01:00] <camh> MugginsM: The biggest mistake was calling create(2) creat
[01:00] <famousdoofy> ERGLupin: thats interesting... when was the last time you tried it and what distro did you try?
[01:00] <ERGLupin> right now with 6.06.1
[01:01] <Wyzard> TestDrivenBug: That's weird, but it's harmless to have both...  I'd just install both, reboot and boot the -27 one, then remove the -26 one with synaptic
[01:01] <ERGLupin> this isnt my first Ive tried Debian Slax FC6 and others
[01:01] <viator> vicky https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Spca5xx
[01:01] <stefg> !info sun-java5-jre
[01:01] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 7169 kB, installed size 15768 kB
[01:01] <famousdoofy> ERGLupin: what are you having issues with, because i think windows is harder to do anything with
[01:01] <lakcaj> ToHellWithGA, and "dpkg -L packagename" will list all the files provided by packagename
[01:01] <ERGLupin> well like right now Im trying to simply install VLC
[01:01] <MugginsM> erg: I think you'll find it depends what you're used to. Every time I've tried Windows (XP) it's completely failed to detect half my hardware and gone flakey within days
[01:01] <ERGLupin> and I have to go through and download like 11 other libraries
[01:01] <andaraone> no you dont
[01:01] <ToHellWithGA> lakcaj: do you know any bash tricks to crop that dpkg output to just the package names?
[01:02] <famousdoofy> ERGLupin: there is one package to do that all.
[01:02] <andaraone> i just installed vlc and it is so easy
[01:02] <ERGLupin> and when I get to the end VLC ask for WXVLC but WXVLC ask for VLC so its like a catch 22 see thats what Im saying for me
[01:02] <Wyzard> ERGLupin: If you're talking about hardware, it seems to me that with Windows you need to download and install drivers for everything, whereas with Linux many things just work out-of-the-box, but things that don't work out-of-the-box are difficult or impossible to get working at all
[01:02] <Roger__> i just intalled ubuntu for the first time... how does the "root" account work? I can't su
[01:02] <ERGLupin> im having a piss poor time cause i feel like im missing something
[01:02] <matju> anybody, i have a file that i can't remove, chown, anything. when i'm as root (sudo bash) i can't even do ls on it. it's /etc/network/run/ifstate ... and it caused /etc/init.d/networking to silently fail. i renamed "run" to "run..." and make a new "run" dir and the network works, but what do i do with the bad ifstate?
[01:02] <Wyzard> Roger__: Use sudo
[01:02] <MugginsM> Also, Windows XP doesn't run very well on my G4 laptop :)
[01:02] <georgy> !sudo
[01:02] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:02] <Roger__> Wyzard: thanks
[01:02] <Wyzard> Roger__: Root logins and su are disabled by default
[01:02] <bl4cktone> Would someone tell me if I can save the channels i'm currently connected to, so nextime I start up XChat I won't need to type all the channels or search for them?
[01:02] <TestDrivenBug> Wyzard: ya, hmm ya, Thats what i will do, I will log bug too - just wondering if there is a new install - n revisions keep on happening - then its a problem
[01:03] <andaraone> i have one question how do i install flash player on thiss
[01:03] <Wyzard> TestDrivenBug: They're only minor revisions so it's not a big deal
[01:03] <ERGLupin> if someone would care to and be gratious enough to PM and help me with some things Ive always had issues with in Linux I would be really grateful
[01:03] <stefg> !flash
[01:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:03] <lakcaj> ToHellWithGA, try dpkg --get-selections
[01:03] <xgmm> how to unmount this /dev/hda1 on /media/hda1 type ntfs (rw)
[01:03] <xgmm> ?
[01:03] <LinuxUser> hi all
[01:03] <lakcaj> ToHellWithGA, give me a sec and I'll show you how to remove the "install" part
[01:03] <andaraone> thanx
[01:03] <xgmm> what is the command
[01:03] <Wyzard> xgmm: umount /media/hda1
[01:03] <|thunder> umount
[01:03] <lisss> if I do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , do I also have to do sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[01:04] <lisss> Wyzard: any ideas?
[01:04] <|thunder> lisss, nope
[01:04] <Wyzard> lisss: You do "update", and then either "upgrade" or "dist-upgrade", but not both
[01:04] <lakcaj> dpkg --get-selections | sed "s|install||g"
[01:04] <lisss> |thunder: so sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will suffice?
[01:04] <lakcaj> ToHellWithGA, ^^^^^^
[01:04] <lisss> Wyzard: ok cheers
[01:04] <ERGLupin> yeah well I guess not hehe :)
[01:04] <Wyzard> lisss: The difference is that "dist-upgrade" will add or remove packages as necessary to satisfy the dependencies of the new packages
[01:04] <xgmm> Wyzard -bash: unmount: command not found
[01:04] <Wyzard> xgmm: "umount", not "unmount"
[01:04] <lisss> Wyzard: so each day I can type sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , and this will suffice?
[01:04] <xgmm> ohh
[01:05] <rnd_null> what is the command to reconfig X using dapper?
[01:05] <xgmm> worked
[01:05] <jatt> matju: have you tried to delete the strange file by inode? If you cannot delete it by inode it looks like a corrputed filesystem.
[01:05] <|thunder> lisss, yep..  Thats what I use on new installs. I just uncomment the universe, do apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade.
[01:05] <Wyzard> lisss: Or just use synaptic and "reload" and then "mark all upgrades"
[01:05] <lisss> Wyzard: ok
[01:05] <LinuxUser> anyone could tell me if the newest ubuntu relaese has bootsplash?
[01:05] <lisss> |thunder: ok
[01:05] <jatt> s/corrputed/corrupted
[01:05] <georgy> rnd_null : dpkg-reconfigure xserver)
[01:05] <rnd_null> thx
[01:05] <lakcaj> ToHellWithGA, did that work for you?
[01:05] <|thunder> rnd_null, its tells you in xorg.conf
[01:05] <georgy> rnd_null,: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:06] <ToHellWithGA> lakcaj: each line looks like "ii packagename                   version            description"
[01:06] <lakcaj> ToHellWithGA, dpkg --get-selections | sed "s|install||g"
[01:06] <ERGLupin> well since no one seems interested in my previous query how bout this one my on board audio works but no the input/mic any ideas?
[01:06] <DeKo> anybody here uses tar?
[01:06] <matju> jatt: how do i delete a file "by inode" ? is this a fsck trick ? this is the first time i hear this, after 10 years of linux...
[01:06] <DeKo> tor*
[01:06] <lakcaj> DeKo, no
[01:06] <xgmm> how to or with what shoud i instal this :P skype_1.2.0.18-2_i386.deb
[01:06] <xgmm> ?
[01:06] <gnomefreak> DeKo: noone in here uses tor.
[01:07] <Wyzard> I do
[01:07] <lisss> can I watch streaming TV on Dapper?
[01:07] <gnomefreak> Wyzard: not now you dont
[01:07] <Wyzard> DeKo: What about it?
[01:07] <LinuxUser> ERGLupin, used a mixer to put them up?
[01:07] <georgy> xgmm,  : dpkg -i skype.....deb
[01:07] <ERGLupin> yeah
[01:07] <xgmm> ty
[01:07] <ERGLupin> i think let me double check
[01:07] <omgwtfsql> is there any way to reset the mysql password, i'm trying to install ispconfig and it keeps telling me my password is incorrect
[01:07] <|thunder> ERGLupin, its best to search the forums for hardware specific inquiries. If no one is responding to your question, it is because they have no useful info for you.
[01:08] <npowell> I'm having trouble getting sun 1.5 java working on dapper 64.
[01:08] <lakcaj> xgmm, why are you downloading .debs instead of using synaptic/apt?
[01:08] <DeKo> i've installed it but firefox plugin shows that it doesn't work
[01:08] <npowell> Have any of you had similar troubles?
[01:08] <DeKo> don't know what's wrong
[01:08] <xgmm> dunno...
[01:08] <lakcaj> npowell, did you insatll it from the repositories?
[01:08] <ToHellWithGA> lakcaj: thanks, that's close enough that i can work it out
[01:08] <xgmm> im newb on ubuntu
[01:08] <Wyzard> lakcaj: skype isn't in the repository
[01:08] <xgmm> i just instaled ubuntu cuz i have problems with my xp and ntldr :P
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !skype
[01:08] <Skygge_> Has anyone heard of fonts in some progs like dvd::rip going all hard to read?
[01:08] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[01:08] <npowell> Lakcaj, I haven't been able to find it in the repository, even after enabling the multiverse.
[01:09] <ToHellWithGA> something like 'dpkg --get-selections > packages.txt & sed -i "s/install//g" packages.txt' should work
[01:09] <lakcaj> Wyzard, http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper/non-free Packages
[01:09] <Tobster> Hi
[01:09] <lakcaj> Wyzard, add that to your sources.list file
[01:09] <lakcaj> then apt-get update and then install skype
[01:09] <viator> vickythedoc
[01:09] <viator> you get that last link
[01:09] <ERGLupin> ok with that down how about back to what someone said about a VLC package that already had all the dependices with it where is this little piece of software?
[01:09] <viator> there you can find all you need to know
[01:09] <Wyzard> lakcaj: I was responding to your question to xgmm
[01:09] <vickythedoc> yes viator, its all jibberish to me though :-s i have a friend on msn now tryign to translate it into english for me lol
[01:10] <Tobster> It late so this is not agreat time to ask but im going to anyway....
[01:10] <lakcaj> Wyzard, thanks
[01:10] <Tobster> Real Player
[01:10] <lakcaj> Wyzard, too many simultaneous converstaion
[01:10] <Tobster> I down load it
[01:10] <Tobster> but it will not open
[01:10] <LinuxUser> anyone could tell me if the newest ubuntu release has got a bootsplash?
[01:10] <Tobster> so I cant put the codes in
[01:10] <Tobster> sorry
[01:10] <viator> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Spca5xx
[01:11] <npowell> Lakcaj -- everyone loves you because you seem to know a lot!
[01:11] <viator> vicky if you have dapper it should work out of the box test it with gqcam or kopete
[01:11] <viator> and if not follow the troubleshooting
[01:11] <viator> guide
[01:11] <viator> at the bottom
[01:11] <viator> bbl
[01:11] <Justin_> How do I add Metacity, to the GDM?
[01:11] <npowell> Lakcaj, I can't seem to find the sun-1.5.java in the repository, even after enabling the multiverse
[01:11] <omgwtfsql> does anybody know how to reset the mysql password?
[01:11] <Justin_> npowell, Did you refresh synaptic?
[01:12] <npowell> Justin_, yes.
[01:12] <Tobster> Npowell use Easy Ubuntu it great
[01:12] <npowell> What is Easy Ubuntu?
[01:12] <Justin_> npowell, Very strange --- so you have all repo's added and still nothing?
[01:12] <gnomefreak> !easyubuntu
[01:12] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[01:12] <Tobster> it took me a while to work out how to use it but it easy
[01:12] <runespy> i have a question, ubuntu uses GRUB right?!?
[01:12] <gnomefreak> npowell: make sure its not the backports you nabled
[01:12] <lakcaj> npowell, hrm - maybe it's not available in the repos for 64bit.  I'm not sure
[01:12] <gnomefreak> yes runespy
[01:12] <runespy> ok
[01:13] <Justin_> Rune yes
[01:13] <Tobster> type in Easy Ubuntu in the web browers
[01:13] <runespy> you might be able to help me
[01:13] <npowell> Well, the word backports is on the line, but multiverse is also on the line.
[01:13] <vickythedoc> ok ill give it a go
[01:13] <Tobster> copy the code
[01:13] <Justin_> npowell, Ahh ... add all repos
[01:13] <gnomefreak> Tobster: why the links ubuntu gave have it
[01:13] <npowell> Should I take out the "backports" word on the line?
[01:13] <Tobster> go to terminal and paste
[01:13] <gnomefreak> npowell: on the lines that end in the word universe add a space than type multiverse
[01:14] <Tobster> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[01:14] <Tobster> that it
[01:14] <Skrot> Hi. Anyone around with nVidia + twinview?
[01:14] <gnomefreak> npowell: there are 4 lines total than hit save than close than sudo apt-get update
[01:14] <jmitchj> anyone have experience with setting up ubuntu on external usb drive?...for some reason the sequence of USB drive and IDE Drive gets reset each time I restart ubuntu..any idea why?
[01:14] <Tobster> you need to wait for the programme to work
[01:14] <famousdoofy> how could i get the ip of a machine if i cant read the screen because the video card is messed
[01:14] <Tobster> it take a moment
[01:14] <Tobster> then...
[01:14] <Tobster> press enter
[01:14] <npowell> Ok, I'll try it.
[01:14] <jmitchj> in the Bios boot sequence i mean
[01:15] <Tobster> then type your password
[01:15] <Tobster> it will not show
[01:15] <Tobster> then press enter
[01:15] <Tobster> but nothing will happen
[01:15] <Tobster> wait a moment
[01:15] <Tobster> then...
[01:15] <runespy> ok, well i need help with error 17 on GRUB, im not running ubuntu im running a differnt dist but i thought GRUB is GRUB, so can someone help me on what is error 17 or to find some wiki...
[01:15] <Tobster> the software will pop up on your screen
[01:15] <Tobster> it really easy!
[01:15] <gnomefreak> !grub > runespy
[01:16] <gnomefreak> runespy: see your pm from ubotu
[01:16] <Dr_willis> google for grub error 17 yet?
[01:16] <runespy> ok thank
[01:16] <gnomefreak> Tobster: help him in #easyubuntu please
[01:16] <runespy> thanks*
[01:16] <Xordan> Hey, I've got a slight problem. I'm connecting via dhcp to the net (wireless card), and it keeps overwriting my correct DNS settings with incorrect ones (192.168.0.1) every time I reboot, even if I set resolv.conf as readonly.
[01:16] <Tobster> how
[01:16] <Tobster> Im a newbe too
[01:16] <gnomefreak> Tobster: join #easyubuntu and help him. this isnt the channel for easyubuntu
[01:16] <Tobster> how do you do a private chat
[01:17] <gnomefreak> Tobster: /msg <username> message
[01:17] <gnomefreak> without the <
[01:17] <gnomefreak> >
[01:17] <devdotcl> ><><
[01:17] <bluefox83> where would you find out the details of a hard drive imminant failure message on bootup?
[01:17] <Xordan> Anyone know why my DNS settings keep getting changed?
[01:17] <devdotcl> easyubuntu? wtf? ubuntu isn't already easy?????
[01:18] <Senesence> Did anyone get python 2.5 IDLE running yet?
[01:18] <Xordan> no :P
[01:18] <kitche2> Xordan: that's how dhcp works it will put in it's own dns settings on a reboot
[01:18] <gnomefreak> Senesence: no 2.5 inst in dapper
[01:18] <gnomefreak> isnt*
[01:18] <Xordan> But the file is marked readonly...
[01:18] <npowell> gnomefreak, thanks a lot! It finally seems to have worked!
[01:18] <baconbacon> devdotcl: easyubuntu is for thing such as which ubuntu can't legally include
[01:19] <devdotcl> like what?
[01:19] <baconbacon> devdotcl: like java, or dvd capabilities
[01:19] <Tobster> I need to sleep
[01:19] <Senesence> gnomefreak: I got it running from source. It works from the BASH just fine, but I can't run IDLE. I get ** IDLE can't import Tkinter.  Your Python may not be configured for Tk. **
[01:19] <Tobster> Guys there an ubuntu bible...
[01:19] <Dr_willis> well java is easy to set up now.
[01:19] <Tobster> The Offical Ubuntu book
[01:19] <Xordan> kitche2: On my gentoo system setting resolv.conf as readonly stops it from being overwritten, but ubuntu seems to ignore the readonly and write anyway.
[01:19] <Tobster> it a LIFE SAVER :)
[01:19] <Dr_willis> Tobster,  theres a 'ubuntu hacks' book also. :P  but its not official.
[01:19] <Tobster> BYE
[01:20] <devdotcl> Xordan: chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
[01:20] <devdotcl> :)
[01:21] <famousdoofy> how do i renew my ip
[01:21] <kitche2> Xordan: the init scripts is ran really before the perms are read
[01:21] <Xordan> devdotcl: chattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device while reading flags on /etc/resolv.conf
[01:21] <jbu> hey all, i installed ubuntu and sometimes it'll load up being able to play sounds, other times it wont.  I have a sound blaster live! pci card, and have made sure my volume was up/speakers plugged in, etc., can someone help?
[01:22] <lakcaj> famousdoofy, ifdown eth0
[01:22] <devdotcl> Xordan: as root?
[01:22] <gnomefreak> Senesence: better to ask in #python
[01:22] <lakcaj> famousdoofy, ifup eth0
[01:22] <Dr_willis> jbu,  you got windows on that machine also?
[01:22] <Xordan> devdotcl: yes
[01:22] <jbu> Dr_willis: yes
[01:22] <Senesence> gnomefreak: Did, they don't know.
[01:22] <Dr_willis> jbu,  do you often reboot windows and boot to linux? then some times power up and boot straight to linux?
[01:22] <jbu> Dr_willis: also, everytime i boot up ubuntu then go to windows, windows xp will say found new hardware for eveyrhitng
[01:23] <jbu> Dr_willis: yes, i guess i do that
[01:23] <Senesence> That's what I get from wanting to be on the bleeding edge.
[01:23] <Xordan> devdotcl: I'm using jfs fs
[01:23] <gnomefreak> Senesence: its not even in edgy
[01:23] <Dr_willis> jbu,  i had a similer case where xp and linux were setting up the Plug and Play devices and conflicting with each other. as long as i cold booted straight to one. it was ok.. you MAY want to try to disable the 'PNP OS' setting in the bios
[01:23] <Xordan> so maybe it isn't compatible..
[01:23] <jbu> Dr_willis: hmmm
[01:24] <jbu> i bet if i shut down and went straight to ubuntu it'd play sound...i will try tha
[01:24] <jbu> t
[01:24] <omgwtfsql> does anybody know how to reset a mysql password?
[01:24] <Senesence> gnomefreak: Yea, they are really slow with putting the packages together, but I figured if they put the .tgz up it must be ok. I was wrong.
[01:24] <devdotcl> Xordan meaby
[01:24] <MugginsM> edgy does have python2.5 with idle
[01:24] <Dr_willis> omgwtfsql,  i think theres a script/command for setting the mysql password. but id have to go check the mysql docs to rember it.
[01:24] <locke> how do i update my nvidia kernel module
[01:25] <locke> the x module is newer than kernel module and its moaning
[01:25] <MugginsM> it's fine, but the rest of edgy is a bit unfinished
[01:25] <gnomefreak> Senesence: no python 2.5 isnt default in edgy
[01:25] <Farrier> omgwtfsql http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html
[01:25] <RawSewage> how do I fix that error when I do sudo apt-get it says  dpkg is locked/being used by another process?  sudo dpkg --configure -i doesnt work
[01:25] <gnomefreak> thats why they are not there
[01:25] <gnomefreak> RawSewage: synaptic open?
[01:25] <Senesence> MugginsM: Edgy is not officialy even out yet, but 2.5 should be able to work in dapper, right?
[01:25] <Farrier> omgwtfsql: first match for google for "mysql reset password"
[01:25] <RawSewage> gnomefreak, I'll try that
[01:25] <RawSewage> gnomefreak, oh, no
[01:25] <RawSewage> gnomefreak, nothing is open
[01:25] <gnomefreak> RawSewage: aare you already running apt-get in another terminal
[01:25] <RawSewage> no
[01:26] <RawSewage> I just restarted
[01:26] <gnomefreak> or dpkg
[01:26] <MugginsM> senes: there's no reason it shouldn't if you can get it to compile with the right options. I don't think there are packages for dapper yet
[01:26] <gnomefreak> RawSewage: restart again
[01:26] <RawSewage> gnomefreak, ok
[01:26] <RawSewage> ty
[01:26] <gnomefreak> MugginsM: there isnt
[01:26] <MugginsM> python is runnable on most things, you just have to figure out which packages it needs to compile with the options you want
[01:26] <kitche2> omgwtfsql: yea the packager for mysql seemed to put a password for the mysql root
[01:27] <omgwtfsql> i've been googling anything passw
[01:27] <omgwtfsql> sorry,
[01:27] <Senesence> MugginsM: the compile process that was posted on pythons download site just gave the ./config make make altinstall.
[01:27] <omgwtfsql> thank you farrier, I think that's exactly what I'm looking for. =)
[01:29] <bl4cktone> Would someone help me with this?  I used to have sound problems with firefox and youtube or video.google.com  but I fixed it with http://www.macewan.org/2006/06/01/howto-firefox-flash-video-sound-on-ubuntu-linux-dapper/ Now I'm missing sound again and everything still seems to be in place for Firefox_DSP="aoss"  I think firefox had updated but don't know if that would cause the problem because firefoxrc is still the same.
[01:29] <famousdoofy> if i can enter commands at the shell on a box, but cant see the monitor, how could i find the ip?
[01:30] <hondje> famousdoofy: ifconfig
[01:30] <hondje> oh, can't see the monitor ....
[01:30] <kitche> famousdoofy: you can use ssh if you have another box
[01:31] <famousdoofy> how can i SSH to it if i dont know the IP
[01:31] <famousdoofy> thats what im trying to do
[01:31] <georgy> famousdoofy : try with nast on a other box
[01:31] <hondje> broadcast ping? :-)
[01:31] <Subhuman> famousdoofy, umm look on your routers dhcp table
[01:31] <Subhuman> OR jus do an  nmap ping sweep
[01:31] <famousdoofy> its not on there :(
[01:32] <Subhuman> nmap ping seep 192.168.1.1-255 then
[01:32] <Audimage> How do i play a DVD? I have VLC, Mplayer, and Xine installed
[01:32] <Dr_willis> vlc can play a dvd.
[01:32] <Dr_willis> !dvd
[01:32] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:32] <famousdoofy> alright ill try that
[01:32] <Subhuman> audibel, get the libdvdcss packahge too
[01:33] <Audimage> thanks
[01:33] <sureshot> Hey Jack_sparow
[01:33] <sureshot> sory Hi Jack_sparrow
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Hey sureshot whats up
[01:34] <gbellmann> can i use lilo instead of grub?? how can i do that?
[01:34] <sureshot> i just cant type r's tonight heheh
[01:34] <gnomefreak> gbellmann: yes install lilo
[01:34] <sureshot> not much getting ready to send for pizza
[01:35] <gbellmann> how can i change the default boot under grub?
[01:35] <_56k> if i software raid0 two drives together with one being smaller than the other, will it still waste the space of the larger?
[01:35] <shmulik> I'm trying to compile something and I have multiple versions of gcc installed, but it says "command 'make' not found.
[01:35] <MugginsM> gbellmann: in the text file     /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> sureshot: Long day here... But finished up my projects.. Keeping my head low
[01:35] <MugginsM> you can configure which one is default
[01:35] <gbellmann> tried with grub-set-default but doesn't work
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> _56k: Also best if they are close to the same speed
[01:36] <sureshot> jack_sparrow good for you man with my back and arthritis i have been pretty low today myself
[01:36] <Skrot> Hi. I'm using nVidia drivers on my ubuntu, and I'm having problems switching to any console using ctrl+alt+[number]  and if I kill X. The screen just goes black. Any ideas?
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> sureshot: Take care, msg me if you have a question...
[01:37] <tom_> does anyone know if there is a way to enable flash in firefox without flashplugin nonfree
[01:37] <sureshot> jack_sparrow ko man just listening thanks though
[01:37] <HOT> tom_: which version do you need?
[01:37] <tom_> 6 or higher
[01:37] <tom_> justso most webstie work
[01:37] <tich> does anyone know of a architect program-- like for designing home floor plans?
[01:38] <Neo8750> Skrot: do you run with vga= option or splash?
[01:38] <Skrot> Neo8750: no
[01:38] <gbellmann> i have a lcd monitor and i can't see the bottom of the screen, that is, i can't see what i'm typing, how can i solve this?
[01:38] <HOT> tom_: maybe consider running firefox via wine? works for me, i have flash 9 running perfectly
[01:38] <Skrot> Neo8750: Err! Splash, sorry.
[01:38] <gbellmann> i have ubuntu server
[01:38] <habeeb> Hello, how can I open a launcher throu the console?
[01:38] <HOT> tich: do you need correct or just some 3d app?
[01:38] <Blissex> gbellmann: using the analog VGA input or the DVI one?
[01:38] <Neo8750> Skrot: try turning it off on 1 boot see if it fixes it
[01:38] <marcagio> deb: command not found!!!! OMG!!! WTF???
[01:38] <gbellmann> analog vga
[01:39] <Blissex> gbellmann: if analog VGA, use th autosync/autotune button on the monitor.
[01:39] <gbellmann> doesn't work
[01:39] <monkd> is anyone interested in helping me set up my first mail server?
[01:39] <Skrot> Neo8750: In any case I would like to keep the splash if possible. Do you know how I can change the resolution of console?
[01:39] <tich> HOT, i would need, at least, to be able to see approx. measurements
[01:39] <Blissex> gbellmann: very unlikely... However other possibility is to change the modelinein the X server. you can experiment with the 'xvidtune' command.
[01:40] <famousdoofy> how do i do the sweep scan? nmap -P 192.168.1.*
[01:40] <HOT> tich: blender any good?
[01:40] <Neo8750> vga=# will make console differnt resolutions
[01:40] <Blissex> gbellmann: however, it is very unlikely that an LCD will not sync correctly.
[01:40] <ERGLupin> argh I messed something up I cant start up X anymore the last thing I did was try to install the NVIDIA driver and I changed the drivers section or xorg.conf from NV to nvidia...
[01:40] <Parisi> Hmm.
[01:40] <Skrot> Neo8750: Where can I find a list of #? ;)
[01:40] <gbellmann> blissex: i'm not using the x server, just the console
[01:40] <Blissex> gbellmann: however some monitors have poor/bad autotune. So use the on screen menu to tweak it.
[01:40] <ERGLupin> anybody know a way to fix that?
[01:40] <marcagio> deb: command not found!!!! OMG!!! WTF??? what can i do? am i gonna die?
[01:41] <marcagio> lol
[01:41] <ruzgar> !monitor
[01:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:41] <Dr_willis> ERGLupin,  edit the xorg.conf and change it back to nv
[01:41] <gbellmann> blissex: bad news, i can fix the horizontal size, but not the vertical
[01:41] <Blissex> gbellmann: the autotune should work in the console too. It helps if it is full of characters. Try 'ls -l /bin' and then the autotune.
[01:41] <marcagio> !deb
[01:41] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[01:41] <Neo8750> Skrot: not sure atm i know 791 = 1024x768 16bit and same with vga=792 think this one is 24bit
[01:41] <ERGLupin> yeah I was going to try that but I didnt know the command prompt edit command just found it
[01:41] <Skrot> Neo8750: Hum. Do you know if there exists one for 1280x800? This is a widescreen
[01:41] <Xenguy> marcagio: what are you trying to do?
[01:41] <Neo8750> Skrot: pretty sure
[01:42] <ERGLupin> its "ed" right?
[01:42] <Dr_willis> ERGLupin,  theres dozens of command line editors
[01:42] <Dr_willis> ERGLupin,  try nano
[01:42] <HOT> tich: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blender_(software)
[01:42] <ERGLupin> k
[01:42] <kitche> ERGLupin: ed is a editor just like vim and nano is
[01:42] <hondje> Only use ed if you hate yourself :-)
[01:42] <ruzgar> how can i adjust my monitors frequency
[01:42] <ruzgar> ?
[01:42] <Renan_s2> ed is outdated
[01:43] <Renan_s2> I've not seen anybody using it in ~3 years
[01:43] <Renan_s2> I use vi :)
[01:43] <bou9al> hi all
[01:43] <HOT> tich: blender is more 3dstudio than AutoCAD but it can do most things in a sqeeze
[01:43] <gbellmann> blissex: can't make it work...
[01:43] <ERGLupin> yeah I just ran it, i dont understand what it wants me to do but Ive used nano before on OSX
[01:43] <bou9al> I need some help installing unbuntu on a power pc machine
[01:43] <kitche> Renan_s2: well you use elvis vim is what I use
[01:43] <MugginsM> it wasn't fun
 I was trying to install easycam but i went to download the file manualy with my Internet browser... it's ok... it just sucks i don't know why i can't bash the command deb anymore :S
[01:43] <xgm> what should i install to listen mp3 on ubuntu ?
[01:43] <klick> hey all, can anyone tell me what the most bleeding edge download manager is? I'de like to find one that looks like azureus but not java based
[01:43] <georgy> xgm : amarok
[01:43] <HOT> xgm: a decent app is amarok
[01:44] <bou9al> help help help
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !mp3 > xgm
[01:44] <Xenguy> marcagio: there is no 'deb' command; that's why I asked what you really want to do
[01:44] <xgm> ?
[01:44] <sureshot> Jack_sparrow did you get this mornings update it made amrok mp3 compaitable
[01:44] <tich> HOT, sorry i was gone for a bit (brushing my teeth) -- i tried blender once but it was over my head but maybe now that i have more incentive i'll figure it out.
[01:44] <bou9al> I need help
[01:44] <klick> is gwget the best download manager?
[01:45] <Dr_willis> klick,  ive never used it. :P i just use wget from the shell
[01:45] <Dr_willis> so it cant be BEST if i dont use it
[01:45] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:45] <kitche> klick: it's just a frontend to wget
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> sureshot: I got the update but I was working all day and had not checked it out
[01:45] <marcagio> wtf I think i'm suffering alzeimer 'cause I thought it worked before... LOL and i'm only 22... it's probably 'cause of all the weed i've been toakin'
[01:45] <HOT> tich: its the only supported 3d app that i would consider capable for what you need, it is a "proper" 3D design app though and does take some learning
[01:45] <kitche> klick: but that's not what you want though if you want a torrent downloader
[01:45] <Neo8750> Skrot: its vga=869 (i think)
[01:45] <Xenguy> marcagio: love the tokes too, but still don't know what yer trying to do =)
[01:45] <ERGLupin> so changing "nvidia" back to nv is all I should need to do?
[01:45] <Neo8750> Skrot: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Talk:HOWTO_gensplash#Compute_vga.3D_video_modes_for_fbsplash <---#18
[01:46] <bl4cktone> I'm using Eterm but when I load compiz the transparency doesn't work  I'm thinking that it's something that will need to be fixed in programing but am I wrong?
[01:46] <sureshot> jack_sparrow i did it works nice and find good program i think it is for me just wanted to let you know
[01:46] <kitche> bl4cktone: what window manager are you using?
[01:46] <bl4cktone> XGL? kitche
 sorry i'm just trying to be a loser as usual... i'm trying to install my webcam so I can send some of ME jammin' my acoustic on youtube =)
[01:46] <tich> HOT, cheers.
[01:46] <sureshot> hey all is thin net clinets compatiable with ubuntu if so how do you get them to boot
[01:46] <kitche> bl4cktone: so your using compiz by it self?
[01:46] <doctorshim> bl4cktone: are you using enlightenment?
[01:46] <bou9al> can anyone help me please
[01:47] <HOT> tich: np
[01:47] <magnet> bou9al: you won't get any help here if you don't state your problem; repeating that you need help won't help either. "how to install ubuntu on a ppc" is just too generic; it's just the same as installing ubunty on x86 (but you get another CD)
[01:47] <Xenguy> marcagio: if you have a 'deb' of the app, then: dpkg -i blah
[01:47] <bl4cktone> no enlightenment doctorshim
[01:47] <famousdoofy> !ask
[01:47] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:47] <necr0mancer> Hmm...
[01:47] <ERGLupin> nope that didnt work
[01:47] <bl4cktone> XGL Compiz kitche is all I know
[01:47] <kitche> bl4cktone: wondering since compiz can be ran with gnome, KDE, XFCE, and if your using enlightenment it won't work with it
[01:47] <Skrot> Neo8750: I just ran vbetest here, and it didn't mention 1280x800 :(
[01:47] <Josh__> Hey
[01:47] <necr0mancer> My installer crashed while trying to install... what do I do about that?
[01:47] <Josh__> Same here
[01:47] <doctorshim> bl4cktone: Just curious!
[01:48] <magnet> !alternate
[01:48] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.
[01:48] <Neo8750> Skrot: i still say try it
[01:48] <marcagio> yeah it's ok i opened it and it's installing... I just hope it's compatible... or else i'll have to use windows again and it pisses me off to select that unholy choice in my grub :P
[01:48] <Skrot> Neo8750: I will :)
[01:48] <HOT> anyone got any experience of getting XFC running after installing a vanilla gnome setup? scale of 1 - 10 for difficulty?
[01:48] <kitche> bl4cktone: hmm well did you follow a tutorial or no? sicne I use aiglx since I can't run XGL but know some things about it
[01:48] <magnet> for ppl with the graphical installer crashing, try the alternate CD
[01:48] <sureshot> hey all is thin net clinets compatiable with ubuntu if so how do you get them to boot
[01:48] <bl4cktone> kitche I tried to install install enlightment but never made it work,  but it's associated with another type of login
[01:48] <doctorshim> ubotu: Do you know if I would need to reformat to upgrade Ubuntu, when the next version is released?
[01:48] <magnet> HOT: xfce?
[01:48] <brian98> !partition
[01:48] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[01:49] <ERGLupin> anyone want to help me out with not being able to boot into X plz send me a PM
[01:49] <kitche> bl4cktone: it uses entrance but it doesn't need to use it
[01:49] <magnet> HOT: difficulty: 0 :)
[01:49] <HOT> magnet: aye
[01:49] <Josh__> I tried to install Ubuntu onto my old desktop, but when I run the install disk and clikc install it goes to the screen like it going to install, then just crashes and restarts. Someone said yesterday it might be a bad cd but I reburned it using the alternate and still no luck :(
[01:49] <brian98> !resize
[01:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:49] <magnet> HOT: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[01:49] <bl4cktone> kitche yeah I followed a tutorial this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[01:49] <brian98> galunga galunga
[01:49] <viator> apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[01:49] <HOT> oh interesting, i love XFCE but didnt want to fiddle while compiz was working perfectly
 try to use a different session at logon... like gnome
[01:49] <viator> easy as that
[01:49] <nalioth> doctorshim: Ubuntu is designed so that you never have to reformat again.
[01:49] <ERGLupin> marcagio  what do you mean?
[01:50] <kitche> HOT: to get compiz to work with XFCE if you wish is actually pretty easy
[01:50] <Skrot> brb
[01:50] <hondje> Why does XFce look so weird by default? Is it something the devs did, or did XFce go nuts on the layout?
[01:50] <hondje> weird vs how it always looked before
[01:50] <kitche> hondje: it's how ubuntu has it set up
[01:50] <yarddog_> are the compiz repos still broken?
[01:50] <doctorshim> nalioth: Good news. Thanks for the info.
[01:50] <magnet> hondje: define weird
 try using rdesktop for half an hour an re make your statement
[01:50] <we2by> I need a simple gtk mp3 player :\ any recommendation?
[01:50] <magnet> ok
[01:50] <ERGLupin> VLC
[01:50] <hondje> kitche: okay ... freaked me out the other day, looked like gnome
[01:50] <magnet> kitche answered :)
[01:50] <brian98> 2nd VLC
[01:51] <ERGLupin> VLC for everything
[01:51] <Josh__> I want to format my drive completely before trying to install Ubuntu, how sohuld I do it?
[01:51] <brian98> VLC is the dogs bone
[01:51] <hondje> Josh__: just let the installer do it
[01:51] <brian98> format c:
[01:51] <magnet> Josh__: do it during the install process
[01:51] <ERGLupin> Josh__ ubuntu wil do it
[01:51] <viator> ubuntu makes xfce look like gnome
[01:51] <kitche> hondje: you can make it look the other way, I tend to like the original look of it myself
[01:51] <we2by> nah. I only want vlc for movie
[01:51] <Josh__> the installer wont run
[01:51] <marcagio> I for myself installed XGL and it appears as a 'session' and when i try to boot it it crashes... but at the login screen you can select a different session which probably doesn't have the last changes you made to the X... but don't listen to me i'm a newbie and I can't figure this stuff out at all.. i think being a computer techie trained on windows OS's made my brain turn into jelly
[01:51] <viator> kinda by default
[01:51] <Josh__> I think there is something corrupt on the drive
[01:51] <hondje> kitche: that's what I ended up doing, I prefer the CDE feel
[01:51] <rnd_null> how do I get gDesklets to start when I log on.....there is a list of programs that start when i log on...but i forgot where to find it...
[01:51] <hondje> but it was a totally unexpected change
[01:52] <sureshot> Jack_sparrow do you know if then net clients are compatiable with upuntu and if so how
[01:52] <viator> they should have left the dock on the bottom kinda like mac
[01:52] <brian98> rnd_null: change two chars. and your red bukk!!] 
[01:52] <Josh__> Is there a Cd I can burn that will just format the drive?
[01:52] <brian98> bulll even
[01:52] <habeeb> Hello, I'm trying to add a bash script in the startup session (it starts with #!/bin/bash, that means its a bash script , right?) and it just opens on Emacs :/
[01:52] <brian98> feck I'm tired
[01:52] <famousdoofy> is there a way to list JUST the ip of an adapter with ifconfig?
[01:52] <habeeb> How can I make it to start like "./program_name"?
[01:52] <brian98> too much ryder cup
 I agree!
[01:52] <viator> josh the install cd will format the drive
[01:52] <magnet> habeeb: running a script and editing it are two different things
[01:52] <magnet> habeeb: "double-clicking" isn't running
[01:52] <sureshot> !metaframe
[01:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about metaframe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> sureshot: No idea on thin net clients...
[01:53] <viator> when you say format
[01:53] <Josh__> The installer CD won't run it crashes
[01:53] <habeeb> magnet: well, double-clicking does the trick.
[01:53] <viator> do you mean format  ie make a ntfs or ext3
[01:53] <sureshot> jack_sparrow thanks just wondering that would be wondering
[01:53] <guido_noob> hey guys...i need some help
[01:53] <viator> or do you mean erase
[01:53] <habeeb> and I want it to get started on startup magnet
[01:53] <sureshot> !citrix
[01:53] <ubotu> For help configuring the Citrix ICA Client, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CitrixICAClientHowTo
[01:53] <magnet> habeeb: then use update-rc.d
[01:53] <magnet> !update-rc.d
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about update-rc.d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:53] <magnet> too bad :)
[01:54] <habeeb> <:
[01:54] <magnet> habeeb: man update-rc.d then
[01:54] <magnet> :)
[01:54] <viator> try the gparted live cd
[01:54] <sureshot> jack_sparrow there seems to be a how to there i am  going to check it out
[01:54] <marcagio> do you guys forgive me for being a computer technician trained under microsoft's products? 'cause I really cry myself to sleep when i think of the shame I should have for myself... anyone knows a way of recycling myself and be able to pay my rent at the same time?
[01:54] <Ych> i have 2 machines on a LAN, they can both ping the router and ping a remote IP, but they cant ping eachother... i rebooted both machines and the router, but it had just stopped working without me chaning anything
[01:54] <magnet> time to sleep here, bye
[01:54] <brian98> sureshot: p**ses al over citrix : nomachine.com/
[01:54] <gbellmann> how can i install lilo??
[01:54] <ERGLupin> argh still cant boot into X :(
[01:54] <kitche> Ych: the router might be stoping the ping in the LAN
[01:55] <habeeb> magnet: I remember it was done much easier before. I could just "ALT+F2" type the name of the script and it would pop up.
[01:55] <Josh__> Anyone know a seperate program to use to format my drive?
[01:55] <guido_noob> i've used simple i guess I installed ubuntu control center and now i can access synaptic... it keeps saying my admin pass is wrong
[01:55] <viator> josh yes
[01:55] <viator> gparted
[01:55] <marcagio> ERGLupin... when I'm stuck like that I just re-install from scratch lol
[01:55] <viator> theres even a gparted live cd
[01:55] <HOT> Ych: firewall dropping echo requesy
[01:55] <brian98> is it easy to install kde under ubuntu and assign it to alt f6 or would that be to perferct ;) :)
[01:55] <brian98> lol
[01:55] <HOT> ?
[01:55] <viator> its a  small download
[01:55] <Josh__> thanks Ill try it out
[01:56] <kitche> guido_noob: your using your user password right?
[01:56] <magnet> habeeb: ? that's to run something
[01:56] <viator> or you can run gparted from the cli
[01:56] <Skrot> Neo8750: Sort of worked. The mode I entered didn't work, but I got a list of new ones (based on how many rows og columns of text I think), and now I can switch between X11 and console. Anyway, would you throw me the URL again?
[01:56] <marcagio> anyone knows where I could get a nice pair of chinese twins for the night?
[01:56] <viator> if you have a partial install
[01:56] <hondje> brian98: would be easier to use a nested xserver
[01:56] <magnet> habeeb: well, anyway I need to sleep now, good luck
[01:56] <brian98> hondje: would I be better off going vmware direction?
[01:57] <guido_noob> yes...i've used mepis before and it made me setup a root.  Ubuntu did not and i've been using the logon i made when i installed two days ago.
[01:57] <hondje> No, that would be less efficient. If you really want, you CAN do what you ask, but it's a pain in the ass
[01:57] <georgy> !sudo
[01:57] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:58] <marcagio> (Connection reset by peer)). - if I find that guy called peer can I kick his sorry @$$ ?
[01:58] <we2by> lmao
[01:58] <kitche> guid_noob: well with sudo you need to enter your user password for anything dealing with admin stuff
[01:59] <Captain_A> hey i am seriously considering installing ubuntu
[01:59] <marcagio> I guess that thing is not gonna work so i'm gonna go drink my 10th beer and do the dishes... you guy be good or else... uh... or else nothing bad will happen so why not?
[02:00] <Captain_A> but i am wondering if i shirnk my partition, will it delete all my programs
[02:00] <viator> Captain_A no
[02:00] <georgy> Caplain__,
[02:00] <guido_noob> ok...when i was using synaptic before installing contol center my password worked for admin...now it doesn't
[02:00] <rednaxel> hi all
[02:00] <Captain_A> or if i delete enough stuff to have like 30 gb free, will it still delete files
[02:00] <Captain_A> how does it make the space then
 not if you do it the propper way... if you're using windows or some kind of such a sin like that go with partition magic and reboot after every changes you make
[02:00] <viator> guido i had the same problem turns out my capslock was on!
[02:01] <viator> lol
[02:01] <kitche> Captain_A: depends if files are in that space
[02:01] <famousdoofy> isnt sshd started by default?
[02:01] <Captain_A> brb
[02:01] <Xenguy> famousdoofy: AFAIK, no
[02:01] <rednaxel> how do I stop the Update Manager of updating an unused kernel? I boot only with my -k7 kernel and it wants to upgrad the -386 kernel
[02:01] <georgy> famousdoofy, : normaly yes
[02:01] <Dr_willis> sshd isent installed by default.
[02:02] <famousdoofy> even on the server install?
[02:02] <budluva> has anyone here run into any major problems with edgy on a laptop?
[02:02] <jatt> famousdoofy: AFAIK sshd is started by default when installed (dapper).
[02:02] <kitche> georgy: in ubuntu it is not installed by default
[02:02] <famousdoofy> urgh
[02:02] <famousdoofy> well i cant connect to it
[02:02] <MugginsM> budluva: no more than the usual edgy problems :)  (in that some days it doesn't boot)
[02:02] <hondje> take your pick of answer ;-)
[02:02] <viator> bud no
[02:02] <Dr_willis> budluva,  edgy is a work in progress. :P but ubuntu over all is very well done for my laptops
[02:02] <Xenguy> famousdoofy: so install it
[02:02] <viator> but bud goto ubuntu+1
[02:02] <georgy> kitche : he asked started by default ;)
[02:02] <tedivm> hey all
[02:02] <viator> thats the edgy channel
[02:02] <jatt> famousdoofy: be sure
[02:02] <jatt> ps -ef | grep sshd
[02:02] <jatt> shows sshd running.
[02:02] <Neo8750> [/me loves xubuntu and his laptop[
[02:03] <tedivm> i can't run any of the package managers 'cause they all say that only one can run at a time, yet none are running
[02:03] <famousdoofy> say i cant see anything on the screen
[02:03] <famousdoofy> would it just be one line that pops up?
[02:03] <tedivm> i restarted the system, and i still get nothing
[02:03] <famousdoofy> because i cant read the text, the video card is messed up
[02:03] <Neo8750> tedivm: what do you mean what package manger is runing?
[02:03] <hondje> tedivm: try lsof | egrep "dpkg|apt" and see what's using it
[02:04] <rednaxel> how do I tell Update Manager: "stop bothering with -386 kernels I don't use"?
[02:04] <tedivm> hondje, nothing returned
[02:04] <tedivm> there's nothing using it
[02:05] <famousdoofy> jatt: its default port 22 right?
[02:05] <Wyzard> rednaxel: Uninstall linux-image-386, and install linux-image-686 (or linux-image-k7 if you use AMD) instead
[02:05] <jatt> famousdoofy: yes
[02:05] <Wyzard> rednaxel: That's the metapackage that pulls in the specific version packages as dependencies
[02:05] <Neo8750> don't forget headers and modules
[02:05] <rednaxel> Wyzard, I tried with Synaptic, but it says it will remove the current version and download a new one...
[02:06] <treedreamer> hey everyone !
[02:06] <hondje> tedivm: hmm, maybe you'll have to nuke the lockfile by hand
[02:06] <guido_noob> bigger issue... when i installed ubuntu i choose dual boot...however my xp was on one of the other partitions and booted from acronis true image boot loader, which had created and backup image on a different  partition ....now i can see the partition from ubuntu but i'm not given a boot choice to get to xp it says that my original partitions can not be mounted?
[02:06] <Wyzard> rednaxel: First install the -686 or -k7 one if you don't already have it
[02:06] <Wyzard> rednaxel: Then remove all the -386 packages
[02:06] <rednaxel> Wyzard, I did that - right now I'm running on k7
[02:07] <Wyzard> It's only the presence of linux-image-386 that causes new -386 kernels to be installed when they become available
[02:08] <treedreamer> Is there anyone in China ? I have problems about locales
[02:08] <ChrisWhite> hmm.. Japanese input sure is a fun one
[02:08] <rmorris84> when i do "sudo make" it says command not found... what am i missing? :)
[02:09] <lupine_85> hondje: apt checks for the presence of the lockfile - if it's there, it refuses to make any changes
[02:09] <rednaxel> Wyzard, I did "sudo apt-get remove linux-image-386" and it says it's not installed
[02:09] <lupine_85> e.g. it's all implemented by the app :)
[02:09] <Xenguy> rmorris84: build-essential
[02:09] <we2by> Sun Sep 24 02:09:25 CEST 2006
[02:09] <hondje> lupine_85: ah, okay. that explains a lot :)
[02:09] <rmorris84> Xenguy: your on fire toda!
[02:09] <we2by> so late already :(
[02:09] <rednaxel> the command was "sudo apt-get remove linux-image-386"
[02:09] <rmorris84> today*
[02:09] <Xenguy> rmorris84: what's that line from Fantastic 4 ? :-)
[02:10] <ChrisWhite> flame on!
[02:10] <rmorris84> lol
[02:10] <Xenguy> yes
[02:10] <ChrisWhite> I need a life :(
[02:10] <we2by> hondje, how's #physics?
[02:10] <tedivm> okay, so, apparently the dpkg thing failed or something partway through some install and i didn't notice or care
[02:10] <we2by> ;)
[02:10] <m0> hi
[02:10] <tedivm> so it told me to "dpkg --configure -a"
[02:10] <m0> how do I compile the kernel with modules?
[02:10] <tedivm> and i do that
[02:10] <hondje> Not too bad, though I actually caved in and helped someone :-(
[02:10] <rednaxel> Wyzard, if I try "sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.15-26-386" it says it will INSTALL a 2.6.15-27 !!!!!
[02:10] <m0> I am trying to install VPN for Cisco
[02:10] <tedivm> and it just errors
[02:11] <m0> The present kernel configuration has modules disabled.
[02:11] <m0> Type 'make config' and enable loadable module support.
[02:11] <m0> Then build a kernel with module support enabled.
[02:11] <NeilyBoy> Hey. How do i access my linux partitions in Windows xp?
[02:11] <m0> how do I enable the modules? i cannot use make config
[02:11] <ChrisWhite> NeilyBoy: afaik you don't
[02:11] <tedivm> NeilyBoy, you don't
[02:11] <Wyzard> rednaxel: Remove linux-image-386 first
[02:11] <ChrisWhite> NeilyBoy: welcome to microsoft! ;p
[02:11] <tedivm> not without downloading some third party applications
[02:11] <NeilyBoy> uh.. yes you can. i did it a long time ago
[02:11] <hondje> ext2 explorer or something
[02:12] <rednaxel> Wyzard, I did "sudo apt-get remove linux-image-386" and it says it's not installed
[02:12] <NeilyBoy> there is a file manager that lets you copy files from linux partitions onto windows partitions all from within windows xp. i did it and it's safe
[02:12] <NeilyBoy> i can't remember the name of the program.
[02:12] <guido_noob> can't read my original xp partition since installing ubuntu
[02:12] <viator> NeilBoy
[02:12] <goblins> welcome
[02:12] <viator> get the driver
[02:12] <viator> for ext
[02:12] <buker> hola
[02:12] <NeilyBoy> viator: ext2ifs-0.3.zip?
[02:13] <jatt> !spanish
[02:13] <Wyzard> rednaxel: sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-2.6.15-26-386 linux-image-2.6.15-27-386
[02:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spanish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <buker> como puedo instalar una ati x1400 ?
[02:13] <m0> can anyone help me please?
[02:13] <jatt> !ubuntu-es
[02:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <m0> How can I enable my current module to allow Modules?
[02:13] <m0> The present kernel configuration has modules disabled.
[02:13] <m0> how do I enable it
[02:13] <Wyzard> rednaxel: If you tell it you don't want either the 26 or the 27 one, and something is depending on one of them, it should tell you what it is
[02:13] <viator> ex2fs yes
[02:13] <Wyzard> m0: Are you talking about kernel modules?
[02:13] <Renan_s2> !es > buker
[02:13] <Renan_s2> !es
[02:14] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:14] <Renan_s2> buker, ^
[02:14] <jatt> allright
[02:14] <Wyzard> m0: The kernels shipped by Ubuntu absolutely do support modules
[02:14] <m0> Wyzard: yes
[02:14] <m0> Wyzard: it says it isn't enabled..
[02:14] <Renan_s2> !pt
[02:14] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[02:14] <Wyzard> m0: What says it isn't enabled?
[02:14] <m0> The present kernel configuration has modules disabled.
[02:14] <m0> thats what the cisco vpn says
[02:15] <rednaxel> Wyzard, now it worked, thanks!
[02:15] <bl4cktone> Hey guys this is kind of wierd, I turned my back to clean up my room and ubuntu 6.06 just kicked me to the login screen,  it seems to do that when I walk away, but it will never do this while I'm on it
[02:15] <lupine_85> no, ubuntu default kernel has module loading enabled
[02:15] <lupine_85> lsmod is your proof
[02:15] <Wyzard> m0: Are you trying to install something that needs to compile a new kernel module?
[02:15] <ArrenLex> bl4cktone: big brother is watching you.
[02:15] <Wyzard> m0: You need to install the linux-headers package that corresponds to your linux-image
[02:15] <Captain_A> alright i thought the cd had a partition thing built in
[02:15] <SeanTater> m0: that's not ubuntu is it?
[02:15] <m0> hmm
[02:15] <m0> Wyzard: yor correct
[02:15] <bl4cktone> ArrenLex: Don't play like that :O
[02:15] <m0> Wyzard: how do I install linux-headers?
[02:15] <m0> oh
[02:16] <m0> apt-get isntall linux-headrers
[02:16] <m0> i thought i needed to downlaod the kernel source
[02:16] <Telroth_Plushie|> are there any mirrors to the ubuntu repos that i can add to my sources.list ?
[02:16] <Josh_> Hello
[02:16] <Wyzard> m0: There's linux-headers-386, linux-headers-686, linux-headers-k7
[02:16] <SeanTater> Josh_: hello
[02:16] <ArrenLex> Telroth: lots.
[02:16] <Josh_> I am still having trouble getting the install to run
[02:16] <m0> Wyzard: thank you
[02:16] <m0> I will try that now
[02:16] <Telroth_Plushie|> ArrenLex, sweet, where can i find a list?
[02:16] <phaedrus44> sweet im watching tv on my linux box
[02:17] <Wyzard> m0: each of which will pull in a version-specific package (like linux-headers-2.6.15-27-686)
[02:17] <Josh_> It boots and I press enter to Install, then it says 'Loading linux kernal' then goes to a black screen, a few lines of text quickly flash and it reboots to the main menu
[02:17] <m0> Wyzard: where does it place the linux-headers? which location?
[02:17] <ArrenLex> Telroth: you can find a list of popular mirrors just by downloading any package from packages.ubuntu.com. It will allow you to select one.
[02:17] <viator> the live cd installer does
[02:17] <viator> if i recall
[02:17] <Ych> weird, i cant ping my router, or access the config page, but yet im in the internet
[02:17] <Wyzard> m0: If the Cisco thing asks for the path to your kernel headers, tell it to use /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build
[02:17] <lupine_85>  /usr/src/linux-headers-version
[02:17] <ArrenLex> Telroth: here's your short list: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fx%2Fxorg%2Fxserver-xorg_7.0.0-0ubuntu45_i386.deb&md5sum=78ec2df4ee53468904984dca0cebecee&arch=i386&type=main
[02:18] <ArrenLex> Telorth, for a complete list: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[02:18] <m0> Wyzard: Sorry I don't understand...
[02:18] <SeanTater> Ych: are you in the dmiliterized zone (or it's equivalent)
[02:18] <Ych> SeanTater, whats that?
[02:18] <Wyzard> m0: Don't worry about it unless the Cisco thing still can't build the module
[02:18] <Ych> SeanTater, apart from in a wartime sense
[02:18] <viator> josh needs to boot in safe graphics moe
[02:18] <viator> mode
[02:18] <m0> Wyzard: Directory containing linux kernel source code [] 
[02:18] <kitche> Wyzard: I had to help someone to get build working right
[02:18] <m0> Thats what it says
[02:18] <SeanTater> Ych: Where your router connects your computer to the internet, and it acts like it does not exist
[02:19] <lupine_85> source code != headers
[02:19] <m0> In order to build the VPN kernel module, you must have the
[02:19] <m0> kernel headers for the version of the kernel you are running.
[02:19] <lupine_85> either way, it's in /usr/src somewhere
[02:19] <Wyzard> m0: Oh, you also need to install "build-essential"
[02:19] <SeanTater> Ych: It's a slightly more direct connection, i believe
[02:19] <Maneit> Hi. I've got a weird problem. I cant reboot or halt my ubuntu.. I think it happened after I tried to optimize boot time using sysv-rc-conf but Im not sure. Anyone know what I should do?
[02:19] <devdotcl> kernel word is too advanced for a ubuntu user! be carefull
[02:19] <Ych> SeanTater, im not sure why it would be doing that, i had access to it a couple days ago... the main problem is i cant access any LAN address
[02:19] <Wyzard> m0: What kernel are you running?
[02:19] <m0> build-essential is already the newest version.
[02:19] <Wyzard> ok
[02:19] <m0> Linux m0-laptop 2.6.15-27-386 #
[02:19] <m0> Is that the newest?
[02:20] <Josh_> Same thing happened in safe gfx mode :(
[02:20] <Captain_A> anyone got a sec and can answer some of my questions over im?
[02:20] <Captain_A> there basic but this irc is cluttered
[02:20] <SeanTater> Ych: try opening up this address in a web browser 192.168.1.1 from any computer other than that one
[02:20] <Wyzard> m0: That's the newest, though you're running a 386-optimized kernel and might want to switch to a -686 or -k7 one
[02:20] <ArrenLex> /tell Captain_A about !ask
[02:20] <Ych> SeanTater, ill go try, brb
[02:20] <m0> Wyzard: how do I do that
[02:20] <SeanTater> ArrenLex: replace /tell with ubotu
[02:20] <Wyzard> m0: What kind of processor does your system have?
[02:20] <Ych> i should be able to access it, cause i was able to ping it from my other machine
[02:20] <monkd> how can i see a list of applications running on my server ?
[02:20] <m0> Its a Celeron Laptio Mobility
[02:21] <ArrenLex> Sean: okay. xD I'm new at this.
[02:21] <SeanTater> Ych: exactly
[02:21] <Ych> SeanTater, so what do i change then?
[02:21] <m0> Wyzard: its a celeron laptop mobility
[02:21] <viator> goto use the vesa drivers
[02:21] <SeanTater> ArrenLex: That's fine, that's why we are here
[02:21] <jatt> monkd: with ps
[02:21] <Wyzard> m0: In synaptic, install the "linux-image-686" package
[02:21] <qmf> i'm having problems getting devilspie running. can someone give me a hand?
[02:21] <monkd> jatt: thanks!
[02:21] <SeanTater> Ych: look for something that soulds like demiliterized zone
[02:21] <Josh_> viator: it did the same thing in safe graphics mode
[02:21] <monkd> jatt: any more syntax?
[02:22] <m0> Wyzard: okay doing it now
[02:22] <Ych> ok.... i hope the page is viewable in lynx....
[02:22] <SeanTater> qmf: Never heard of it, did you get it from apt?
[02:22] <Wyzard> m0: and then remove linux-image-2.6.15-27-386, linux-headers-2.6.15-27-386, and the other packages that synaptic will tell you must be removed because they depend on these
[02:22] <SeanTater> Ych: it probably is
[02:22] <Ych> or do you know any better console browsers?
[02:22] <SeanTater> Ych: Most of them are simple
[02:22] <qmf> yes sean. it's a window-matching utility
[02:22] <SeanTater> Ych: w3m > lynx
[02:22] <Ych> ok thanks
[02:22] <jatt> monkd: man ps
[02:22] <jatt> ps -au
[02:22] <jatt> should suffice.
[02:22] <qmf> apt-get install devilspie
[02:23] <Captain_A> anyone got an im provider?
[02:23] <SeanTater> qmf: never heard of it -- but there are a great diversity of people here, keep asking
[02:23] <Wyzard> m0: Also install linux-headers-686 to go with linux-image-686
[02:23] <m0> Wyzard:  kay doing it now :)
[02:23] <SeanTater> Captain_A: Like, freenode?
[02:23] <viator> josh try using vesa
[02:23] <Wyzard> m0: Once you're done all that, reboot so you're running the new kernel
[02:23] <Josh_> Sorry im new I dont know what that is
[02:23] <m0> is the kernel only 20 mb huge?
[02:23] <m0> thats it ?
[02:24] <rmorris84> Broadcom 4311, Ubuntu Dapper, I finally got my device to show up as wlan0 with NDISwrapper, but no light and no scan in iwlist, just looking for a little guidance
[02:24] <ChrisWhite> I always thought synaptic was the touchpad driver :S
[02:24] <Wyzard> m0: That sounds about right
[02:24] <Wyzard> m0: Most of that is driver modules
[02:24] <ArrenLex> Does anyone know if the open-source Radeon driver supports ATI Radeon X300SE?
[02:24] <Half-Left> Wyzard, nope it's generic now
[02:24] <ArrenLex> In 3D, I mean?
[02:24] <lupine_85> Wyzard: they no longer exist in edgy
[02:24] <m0> Wyzard: Shall I remove linux-image 386?
[02:24] <Wyzard> m0: yes
[02:25] <qmf> ChrisWhite: thanks for finally putting the finger on where i'd heard synaptic before :D
[02:25] <Wyzard> m0: since you have linux-image-686 installed instead
[02:25] <georgy> !ati
[02:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:25] <m0> Wyzard: Shall I install k7 or no?
[02:25] <Maneit> Is there any way to restore init scripts etc system wide (for all services)?
[02:25] <Wyzard> Half-Left: no 386/686/k7 variants?
[02:25] <Wyzard> m0: No, that's for AMD processors
[02:25] <lupine_85> rmorris84: does sudo iwlist scan work? and do you have ssid broadcast enabled in the router?
[02:25] <ArrenLex> Georgy: been there. That's fglrx. Been there. Don't want it.
[02:25] <Wyzard> m0: You want the -686 one
[02:25] <lupine_85> if the answers are no, then yes... you should try a later version of ndiswrapper, &/or a different windows driver
[02:25] <Half-Left> Wyzard, nope, generic
[02:25] <ChrisWhite> qmf: it had me really confused when I first started
[02:25] <m0> Wyzard: Removing others now then going to reboot
[02:26] <lupine_85> Wyzard: makes very little difference TBH
[02:26] <ChrisWhite> qmf: someplace said to use synaptic to install this package
[02:26] <Wyzard> Half-Left: Generic as in effectively -386 for everyone?
[02:26] <ChrisWhite> qmf: I'm thinking "what on earth does a touchpad driver have to do with this O_o"
[02:26] <Wyzard> I guess...  seems kinda silly though
[02:26] <rmorris84> lupine_85: i had it working before but i slicked my system and i had some trouble the first time i did this and i dont remember how i got it.... i havent changed a thing on my router, and im sitting here next to it with this ::sigh:: wire... :(
[02:26] <Half-Left> Wyzard, generic offers best alround for all cpus
[02:26] <Josh_> viator: what is vesa?
[02:27] <m0> Wyzard: it says this: Remove the running kernal image (not recommended)
[02:27] <jatt> !vesa
[02:27] <ubotu> vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x
[02:27] <m0> Wyzard: What should I do yes or no
[02:27] <Josh_> !vesa
[02:27] <Wyzard> m0: It should be OK since you're installing the -686 one instead, but if you want to play it safe, install linux-image-686 and linux-headers-686, then reboot, then remove the -386 stuff
[02:27] <Josh_> How do I run it?
[02:27] <Half-Left> Wyzard, the kernel has a option for this, so intel, amd instructions are on I believe
[02:27] <m0> oh well :)
[02:28] <m0> I will play it unsafe
[02:28] <Renan_s2> !info scons
[02:28] <Anderson> greetings
[02:28] <ubotu> scons: A replacement for Make. In component main, is optional. Version 0.96.1-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 281 kB, installed size 1344 kB
[02:28] <m0> bbl . Restarting.. I hope I don't crash
[02:29] <Josh_> !info vesa
[02:29] <ubotu> Package vesa does not exist in any distro I know
[02:29] <lupine_85> vesa is a generic video standard
[02:29] <Wyzard> Renan_s2: scons is awesome
[02:29] <lupine_85> much better than VGA, EGA or CGA
[02:29] <lupine_85> although EGA rocks
[02:29] <Renan_s2> Wyzard, I'm going to try it
[02:29] <Wyzard> VGA > EGA
[02:30] <Wyzard> and VESA is actually an organization, the "Video Engineers Standards Association" or something like that
[02:30] <Josh_> viator: how would I use vesa ?
[02:30] <lupine_85> EGA still rocks
[02:30] <rmorris84> lupine_85: any advice?
[02:30] <lupine_85> using vesa is easy - use the "vesa" driver in xorg.conf
[02:30] <lupine_85> rmorris84: not really, no.
[02:31] <rmorris84> nevermind u replied and it slipped by
[02:31] <jatt> Video Electronics Standards Association.
[02:31] <Wyzard> I was close  :-)
[02:31] <Neo8750> how do i tell if powernowd is working properly?
[02:31] <Josh_> rmorris84: sorry I don't know what you mean, I'm brand new to this. My ubuntu keeps crashing without installing and viator said to try using vesa but I dont know how
[02:31] <rmorris84> lupine_85: i used the 1.8 version of ndiswrapper and it didnt work so i used the 1.2 and finally got it to show the device
[02:32] <lupine_85> ah, just use the "safe mode" option in the boot list?
[02:32] <lupine_85> rmorris84: why not try 1.23 ?
[02:32] <rmorris84> thats what i did
[02:32] <j2daosh> anyone in here ever use qingy?
[02:32] <NeilyBoy> viator: it's called explore2fs. i love it when i'm right.
[02:32] <rmorris84> and now my device finally shows up in networking
[02:33] <rmorris84> as wlan0 but i have no light and no connectivity
[02:34] <Wyzard> Josh_: "vesa" in that context is a video driver that works on any (non-ancient) video card, but does no acceleration so it's sluggish
[02:34] <Wyzard> Josh_: it's good for troubleshooting
[02:34] <Josh_> Ok sounds good, how do I activate it
[02:34] <arnducky_> Wyzard, what do you know about ATI drivers?
[02:35] <Wyzard> arnducky_: Nothing, sorry...  I'm an nVidia user
[02:35] <Bacaruda> every time I try to install the nvidia driver it screws up my X it says
[02:35] <Wyzard> Josh_: You need to reconfigure X, which you can accomplish by running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and choose "vesa" when it asks about a driver
[02:36] <judaz> hello
[02:36] <judaz> i have a question
[02:36] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:36] <judaz> is there a way to get the sources.list of edgt eft?
[02:36] <judaz> i need to install a package that is in edgy universe
[02:36] <m0> Wyzard: hey it worked
[02:36] <Wyzard> but X configuration is one of those things that tends to differ between distros, and I'm mostly a Debian user with limited Ubuntu experience, so I'm probably not the best one to ask about details for that
[02:36] <Dr_willis> its the same as for dapper only with 'edgy' replacing the word 'dapper' i think
[02:36] <Wyzard> m0: cool
[02:37] <m0> Wyzard: You may wish to change these permissions to restrict access to root.
[02:37] <judaz> Dr_willis: are you sure?, ill try
[02:37] <Josh_> How an I access a command menu though, Im just at the install menu
[02:37] <Wyzard> m0: Now take a look at /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-686/build, and you should see files in that directory
[02:37] <m0> Wyzard: Do I need to do that
[02:37] <meshugga> hi chaps
[02:37] <Wyzard> m0: That's the directory you want to tell the Cisco installer thing
[02:37] <m0> Wyzard: :) yup i did
[02:37] <Wyzard> m0: What's asking you that?
[02:37] <meshugga> how can i switch of INET6 DNS lookups?
[02:37] <m0> Wyzard: i will pastebin it
[02:37] <meshugga> my dns lookups always take a while before the page loads
[02:38] <meshugga> and i figured it is because it always tries AF_INET6 first
[02:38] <m0> http://pastebin.com/793018
[02:39] <Josh_> Wyzard: How an I access a command menu though, Im just at the install menu
[02:39] <Neo8750>  * Starting powernowd...                                                                                                    /etc/init.d/powernowd: 155: cannot create /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor: Directory nonexistent * CPU frequency scaling not supported
[02:39] <Neo8750> but i know for a fact its supported
[02:39] <Neo8750> actually i know why
[02:40] <Ych_> SeanTater, the ip set in the DMZ area is a different one than my own, so i would think thats not the problem
[02:40] <Wyzard> Josh_: Ask someone else about that, sorry -- I don't have enough experience with Ubuntu's installer to be able to help with it
[02:40] <new2linx>  /ns register <password>
[02:40] <shmulik> Certain .m4a files are really not working.  Amarok can't add them to its collection and SoundConverter can't change them to Ogg Vorbis.  They aren't .m4p files and some of them work, but not all.
[02:40] <kitche> Josh_: your using the livecd method?
[02:40] <Josh_> Im not sure :(
[02:40] <Wyzard> m0: Yes, it's a good idea to say yes to that
[02:40] <new2linx> i am new here, can someone help me>
[02:41] <georgy> !ask
[02:41] <Wyzard> m0: VPN configurations are security-sensitive so it's a good idea not to let ordinary users look at them
[02:41] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:41] <kitche> Josh_: it's not blue is it it's has wallapaper and such right?
[02:41] <Bacaruda> ok I installed the NVIDIA driver it freaked told me couldnt load into X then I reconfigured is the NVIDIA driver still being used or not
[02:41] <Josh_> No
[02:41] <Josh_> black
[02:41] <crimsun> shmulik: GSt- or Xine-based player?
[02:41] <Josh_> orange text
[02:41] <new2linx> i am wondering how to register a password for my username, or do I need to even do that?
[02:41] <RichW> Hi, Im using myapp > log.txt to output the stdout fom a application to a log but it dont seem to write the log until the application is finished. Is there anything I can do about this?
[02:41] <matju> m
[02:41] <Wyzard> new2linx: Didn't you choose a password when you installed Ubuntu?
[02:41] <matju> oops.
[02:41] <shmulik> crimsun: Amarok was configured to use Xine... fwiw, I got m4a support from EasyUbuntu....
[02:42] <Bacaruda> is there any easy way to check on the NVIDIA driver thing
[02:42] <crimsun> shmulik: via libxine-extracodecs?
[02:42] <mchao1> has anyone been able to install xgl/compiz?
[02:42] <Wyzard> new2linx: If you want to change your password, go to System -> About Me and there's a button for it, or open a terminal and run "passwd"
[02:42] <new2linx> yes, I am talking about a xchat password. i am reading the xchat ubuntu wiki which says I can type  /ns register <password> to register a password
[02:42] <rmorris81> Xenguy, yo, thanks for the help i finally got it
[02:42] <rmorris81> lupine_85: u too man thanks
[02:42] <rmorris81> :)
[02:42] <kitche> new2linx: /msg nickserv help
[02:42] <Wyzard> new2linx: oh, you mean an IRC password, not your login password
[02:42] <shmulik> crimsun: That package is installed, yes... version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2
[02:42] <ChrisWhite> hmm
[02:42] <ChrisWhite> so what's got the sshd server now?
[02:43] <rmorris81> if u looked up the definition of ubuntu u would see Xenguy and lupine_85 right next to it :)
[02:43] <Josh_> kitche: does that mean its the live cd?
[02:43] <Wyzard> new2linx: /msg nickserv help
[02:43] <THX-1138> Hi crimsun
[02:43] <kitche> Josh_: yes
[02:43] <crimsun> can you confirm that all the m4as are playable w/ another app, say foobar2000 in Windows or faad in Ubuntu?
[02:43] <crimsun> shmulik: ^^ not only playable but audible
[02:43] <Bacaruda> ok I installed the NVIDIA driver it freaked told me couldnt load into X then I reconfigured is the NVIDIA driver still being used or not
[02:43] <crimsun> hi THX-1138
[02:43] <Josh_> kitche: ok, any ideas?
[02:44] <kitche> Bacaruda: when you installed the nvidia driver did you have X closed down completely?
[02:44] <Bacaruda> no I was running in X
[02:44] <kitche> Josh_: go to the menu and click on gnome terminal
[02:44] <juggernaut1980> how is everybody this fine evening?
[02:44] <kitche> Bacaruda: to install nvidia driver X must be shut down
[02:44] <Josh_> kitche: I dont see that at all
[02:44] <shmulik> crimsun: That's the thing, they can play for the most part, but Amarok craps out when trying to add them to it's collection.
[02:44] <new2linx> i am new to irc completely so I don't know whats going on?
[02:44] <Josh_> kitche: I have install, check for defects, mem test, and boot
[02:44] <chuckyp> kitche, only if its the binary driver
[02:45] <crimsun> shmulik: are you using 1.4.3 from the kubuntu.org repo?
[02:45] <Bacaruda> kitche how do I start up without X ?
[02:45] <chuckyp> new2linx, people are talking about ubuntu and asking questions for help
[02:45] <kitche> chuckyp: you do know that nvidia is a binary driver no matter how you install it right? unless you mean without the ubuntu package
[02:45] <THX-1138> Bacaruda - sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak then
[02:45] <new2linx> how do i talk to just 1 person? I keep seeing a bunch of sentences. i know that chuckyp
[02:45] <new2linx> that;s why i am here but I am saying how do i get help
[02:46] <chuckyp> kitche, when I say binary I meant the one from nvidia.com
[02:46] <crimsun> shmulik: meaning http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest/pool-dapper/
[02:46] <juggernaut1980> i got the codecs working for video today, so i'm fairly impressed with that, but now i can't get network-manager to work for managing my wifi connections.  can someone help me with this?
[02:46] <Wyzard> new2linx: You can use /msg to talk with individual people privately, but msging people without their permission is often frowned upon
[02:46] <Telroth_Plushie|> argh
[02:46] <shmulik> crimsun: I got 1.4.3, but it's not from Kubuntu repos
[02:46] <Bacaruda> THX-1138 then what?
[02:46] <crimsun> shmulik: are you on 6.06.1 or 6.10?
[02:46] <hondje> new2linx: Just ask your question and people will use your nick name to highlight responses seen to you
[02:46] <Telroth_Plushie|> anyone want to tell me why dpkg --force-all isn't allowing me to remove a package?
[02:46] <Wyzard> new2linx: You can talk "to" someone in this chatroom by typing their name at the beginning of your message, like I am to you
[02:47] <chuckyp> new2linx, well you type their name and then say what you want it will hilight on their screen.  after a few letters of their name you should be able to hit tab to auto complete the name.
[02:47] <new2linx> ok, well can someplease talk to me privately so I get some help with xchat and a problem I am having with ./configure
[02:47] <Wyzard> new2linx: That way you can have a conversation with someone, but others can still chime in with their own advice too
[02:47] <kitche> chuckyp: well it's binary no matter what but that's how Bacaruda is installing it seems
[02:47] <Wyzard> new2linx: You're new to Linux (as your nick says) but you're trying to compile something from source?
[02:47] <Wyzard> new2linx: What are you trying to install?
[02:47] <Half-Left> new2linx, what issues?
[02:47] <chuckyp> juggernaut1980, just install network-manager no?
[02:47] <BlackJordan> I cannot play mpge and wmv files, when do I find the codecs?
[02:47] <shmulik> crimsun: 6.06.1
[02:47] <THX-1138> Bacaruda - sudo gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and add nvidia in place of nv under devices or nv see which works best for you. then try to rinstall nvidia-glx
[02:47] <hondje> See? Lots of replies hehe
[02:47] <Telroth_Plushie|> !mp3 -> BlackJordan
[02:47] <georgy> !codecs
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3 - - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:47] <new2linx> checking for exo-0.3 >= 0.3.1.10... not found
[02:47] <new2linx> *** The required package exo-0.3 was not found on your system.
[02:47] <new2linx> *** Please install exo-0.3 (atleast version 0.3.1.10) or adjust
[02:47] <new2linx> *** the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[02:47] <new2linx> *** installed the package in a nonstandard prefix so that
[02:47] <new2linx> *** pkg-config is able to find it.
[02:47] <crimsun> shmulik: which repo are you using?
[02:48] <chuckyp> new2linx, what program are you trying to install
[02:48] <juggernaut1980> chuckyp:  i did sudo apt-get install network-manager, but i can't find where to run the program.
[02:48] <crimsun> new2linx: please use a pastebin; don't flood here
[02:48] <chuckyp> !tell new2linx about paste
[02:48] <THX-1138> !display
[02:48] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:48] <Bacaruda> THX-1138 i tried that and it just messed up and made me reconfigure X
[02:48] <Josh_> My install freezes just after it loads the kernal and then reboots, any help? :(
[02:48] <new2linx> i am very sorry, i don't know what I am doing, first time ircing
[02:48] <chuckyp> juggernaut1980, System > administration
[02:48] <Telroth_Plushie|> help anyone? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24597
[02:48] <Wyzard> new2linx: It's OK, don't worry about it
[02:48] <new2linx> the newest thunar
[02:48] <juggernaut1980> chuckyp, i tried typing network-manager-gnome in the terminal but it said command not found
[02:48] <chuckyp> juggernaut1980, if its not there you can always try launching it from a terminal
[02:49] <chuckyp> juggernaut1980, is it installed?
[02:49] <shmulik> crimsun: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS, Dapper updates, and security updates
[02:49] <chuckyp> !network-manager
[02:49] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[02:49] <admin_> when booting the live cd, at the like propt before the cd starts, what can i type that instead of booting up and installing, i can just install via command line
[02:49] <chuckyp> !tell juggernaut1980 about network-manager
[02:49] <THX-1138> Bcaruda - the framebuffer option might need to be changed from use do use direct rendering  to don't use framebuffer
[02:49] <chuckyp> admin_, you need the alternate cd to do a text install
[02:49] <Wyzard> new2linx: What program are you trying to install that you're running ./configure for?
[02:49] <new2linx> can someone please talk to me privately about how to do irc'ing
[02:50] <kitche> new2linx: are you using Xubuntu?
[02:50] <juggernaut1980> chuckyp, it installed just fine, but it's not in system -->administration.  only networking and network tools in there.
[02:50] <new2linx> yes
[02:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> any help for me?
[02:50] <admin_> hmm, becuase i keep trying to boot xubuntu on an old imac, and after it loads, and then when X is supposed to start, the screen shits off
[02:50] <THX-1138> Bacuruda - Did that help?
[02:50] <admin_> *shuts
[02:50] <kitche> newlinx: if you wish you can /join #kitchetech
[02:50] <chuckyp> juggernaut1980, did you follow the link by ubotu?
[02:50] <babo> traceroute isn't in the ubuntu distro ?
[02:50] <Bacaruda> im trying it
[02:50] <kitche> new2linx: might be easier for you
[02:50] <Neo8750> admin_: can you get to any of the tty's?
[02:50] <juggernaut1980> chuckyp, looking now.  i'll let you know if i'm still lost here in a min
[02:51] <new2linx> that's what I am saying
[02:51] <juggernaut1980> chuckyp, thanks brb
[02:51] <jatt> babo: it is included in the main repository.
[02:51] <babo> coo;
[02:51] <chuckyp> juggernaut1980, argh the page hasn't been created let me get you a better link
[02:51] <babo> l
[02:51] <kitche> new2linx: /join #kitchetech type that right in the place where you type
[02:51] <CarlFK> what is the part of the screen called that has the the clock, "power button" and other status icons?
[02:51] <juggernaut1980> chuckyp, ok i'll wait
[02:52] <admin_> Neo***: idk,
[02:52] <jatt> CarlFK: panel?
[02:52] <BlackJordan> I cannot install my Canon Pixma iP1200 Printer... the pc does not recognizes
[02:52] <Bacaruda> all right yeah it said I had installed it and this time it didnt make me reconfigure so I guess it installed?
[02:52] <chuckyp> juggernaut1980, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[02:52] <kitche> CarlFK: the taskbar or panel
[02:52] <babo> jatt: why do the nodes show up as * * * * .. ?
[02:52] <admin_> the screen just shuts off right before X should start
[02:52] <admin_> it like goes into sleep mode
[02:52] <THX-1138> Bacaruda - when this is fixed i'll show you how to use xcompmgr to get some fancy visual effects.
[02:52] <crimsun> shmulik: no, I meant from where did you get amarok 1.4.3?
[02:52] <new2linx> did that
[02:52] <new2linx> i am there
[02:53] <chuckyp> admin_, you can try safe graphics mode
[02:53] <Bacaruda> well I guess it worked cause like I said it told me in terminal it installed and to restart X and I did and it started up no problems
[02:53] <jatt> babo: read the manpage for details:
[02:53] <jatt> "If there is no response within a 5 sec. timeout interval (changed with the -w flag), a "*" is printed for that probe."
[02:53] <shmulik> crimsun: Ubuntu Backports repos
[02:53] <CarlFK> kitche: isn't the task bar the whole thing, including the menus and quick launch icons that are to the left?
[02:53] <chuckyp> new2linx, you did what?
[02:53] <Wyzard> new2linx: You were asking for help with IRC, but you seem to be doing OK to me  :-)
[02:53] <BlackJordan> someone knows how to install a Canon printer?
[02:54] <THX-1138> Bacaruda - did you select "nv" as your driver or "nvidia"?
[02:54] <Bacaruda> nvidia
[02:54] <Wyzard> chuckyp: He joined #kitchetech
[02:54] <new2linx> i went to kitchtech but no ones there to talk to me?
[02:54] <admin_> chuckyp: how do i boot into safe graphocs mode?
[02:54] <admin_> (this is a live cd)
[02:54] <chuckyp> admin_, it should be an option therer on the menu if i'm not mistaken
[02:54] <admin_> hmm
[02:54] <shmulik> crimsun: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main universe
[02:54] <chuckyp> Wyzard, who did?
[02:54] <admin_> well, i'm using an Xubuntu live cd
[02:54] <admin_> not ubuntu
[02:55] <crimsun> shmulik: please ask imbrandon
[02:55] <admin_> so its just a text kinda thing basically
[02:55] <Wyzard> chuckyp: new2linx did -- you'd asked "you did what?"\
[02:55] <crimsun> shmulik: (he's more familiar w/ amarok than I am)
[02:55] <Bacaruda> is there a way I can test it to see if OpenGL is working outside of like downloading Q3 demo
[02:55] <chuckyp> admin_, no when you first boot the cd.....  There is a menu that you can select memtest etc.... one of them should be safe graphics mode.
[02:55] <chuckyp> admin_, what is it that you want to acomplish?
[02:55] <ArrenLex> Baca: glxinfo | grep dri
[02:55] <Waterbou> Could someone help me with getting CrossOver to work?
[02:55] <juggernaut1980> brb
[02:56] <admin_> chuckyp: my main goal is to load Xubuntu onto thier
[02:56] <Wyzard> new2linx: Did you spell it "kitchtech"?  Or "kitchetech"?  (It should be the latter)
[02:56] <chuckyp> Bacaruda, glxgears glxheads etc...
[02:56] <ArrenLex> Sorry, bacaruda: glxinfo | grep dire
[02:56] <Bacaruda> yeah it says direct rendering so I assume its working
[02:56] <new2linx> oops, so what do i do now?
[02:56] <dredhammer> hello all my version of Dapper is behaving weird, when i burn data cds i have to reboot to see the contents on them double clicking on the disc icon or opening in nautilus shows an empty directory
[02:56] <dredhammer> i'm using gnome baker
[02:56] <dredhammer> the latest version
[02:57] <chuckyp> admin_, do you see that option when you first boot?
[02:57] <Dr_willis> dredhammer,  try mounting them manually
[02:57] <rmorris81> how do i correct a NO_PUBKEY error?
[02:57] <Wyzard> new2linx: "/part #kitchtech" (or just right-click on the button in xchat and pick Close Tab) and then "/join #kitchetech"
[02:57] <admin_> chukyp: i also know what you mean by that menu, i have experience with ubuntu, but all this cd has at beggiing is just a few lines of text, andt hen "boot: "
[02:57] <THX-1138> Bacaruda - Cool.
[02:57] <shmulik> imbrandon: Are you there? I have a question/.
[02:57] <admin_> then i dont type anything, or i type live, but it has same effect later on
[02:57] <chuckyp> admin_, hrm... well perhaps try #xubuntu
[02:57] <new2linx> ok, did that, thank you
[02:57] <dredhammer> i was afraid of that
[02:57] <Bacaruda> THX-1138: so eveything did go right then?
[02:58] <Waterbou> Do any native ubuntu programs have iPod support?
[02:58] <chuckyp> dredhammer, you mean after you reboot it shows the contents?
[02:58] <chuckyp> dredhammer, properly
[02:58] <THX-1138> bring up synaptic and search xcompmgr (xgl/compiz is a bit fancier but somewhat more complex and bleeding edge
[02:58] <dredhammer> yes
[02:59] <dredhammer> it has to be a hard reboot not a ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:59] <chuckyp> dredhammer, are you rebooting leaving the cd in the drive or just reinserting after reboot?
[02:59] <kitche> Waterbou: amarok and maybe banshee
[02:59] <Bacaruda> yeah Ive used XGL on a Live CD before that was awesome
[02:59] <imbrandon> shmulik: sure
[02:59] <Wyzard> As I understand it, AIGLX is the real way forward, not XGL
[02:59] <chuckyp> dredhammer, ctrl+alt+backspace isn't a reboot it just restarts x windows.
[02:59] <Wyzard> since it has less compatibility issues...  but ATI and nVidia don't support it quite yet
[02:59] <Waterbou> thanks kitche
[03:00] <imbrandon> shmulik: if you are registered with nickserv you can private message me
[03:00] <chuckyp> Wyzard, nvidia's beta driver supports it
[03:00] <Bacaruda> oh so you can just restart X and not the whole system
[03:00] <chuckyp> Bacaruda, ye
[03:00] <chuckyp> Bacaruda, s/ye/yes
[03:00] <Bacaruda> wow thats nice to know hehe
[03:00] <new2linx> chuckyp, you opened a window for me I think but you aren't there?
[03:00] <shmulik> imbrandon: I have a bunch of m4a and mp3 files I want in my amarok collection, but Amarok for some reason (using 1.4.3 precompiled from Ubuntu backports repos) has lots of troubles adding the m4as (some of them at least) into the collection.
[03:00] <chuckyp> Bacaruda, but I believe its ctrl+shift+backspace I dunno don't use it my system doesn't go down
[03:01] <Wyzard> chuckyp: There's a beta of 9xxx available?
[03:01] <chuckyp> new2linx, nah hold on
[03:01] <Waterbou> kitche, it says I need a disk?
[03:01] <shmulik> imbrandon: It freezes partway through the scan process and I have to kill the processes or hard boot my machines.
[03:01] <baconbacon> ctrl-alt-bk
[03:01] <kitche> Waterbou: disk for what which one are you using
[03:01] <new2linx> also kitche, there is a window with kitche on my left window but you aren't talking to me in it?
[03:01] <dredhammer> well you log out anyway
[03:01] <dredhammer> with it
[03:01] <Bacaruda> THX-1138 ok I got xcompmgr how do I set it up?
[03:01] <dh-laptop> hello #ubuntu!
[03:01] <juggernaut1980> brb, my lightbulb in my livingroom lamp just burned out.  o.O  lol
[03:01] <Waterbou> amorok
[03:01] <new2linx> chuckp ok sorry
[03:02] <dh-laptop> anyone here might be able to help me figure out what device inside hwinfo IS my webcam
[03:02] <imbrandon> shmulik: can you try a small sample of the m4a's to see if it gets though them
[03:02] <kitche> new2linx: you have to register so you can tlak to people that pm you
[03:02] <imbrandon> shmulik: not the whole thing
[03:02] <chuckyp> new2linx, click on the window that says chuckyp, I'll talk to you there real quick since this is overwhelming
[03:02] <viator> josh you try using vga=771 ?
[03:02] <shmulik> imbrandon: I installed non-free codec support from EasyUbuntu, and Amarok can *play* the m4a files fine, but can't add *some* (most?) to the collection... maybe a tag scanning problem?
[03:02] <Waterbou> Ubuntu 6.06_Dapper Drake_-Release i386 is the one it says I need kitche
[03:03] <chuckyp> dredhammer, are you rebooting leaving the cd in?  or reinserting it after rebootj?
[03:03] <Bacaruda> oh also is there a way to mount my Windows NTFS drive, not to delete files just to access files?
[03:03] <imbrandon> shmulik: yes most likely the taglib dosent support m4a totaly
[03:03] <chuckyp> !tell Bacaruda about ntfs
[03:03] <kitche> Waterbou: hmm odd well put in your install disc
[03:03] <imbrandon> shmulik: lemme check into it, can you file a bug against taglib please ?
[03:03] <Waterbou> My install or my 6.06 LTS?
[03:03] <chuckyp> new2linx, do you see the window still?
[03:04] <Waterbou> that was uhh at kitche
[03:04] <new2linx> yes
[03:04] <shmulik> imbrandon: I did, and *some* work but others don't.  I want to ditch the format 100%, and am willing to convert them all to mp3 (I would do vorbis but my iPod doesn't support that format).
[03:04] <dredhammer> i left it in
[03:04] <shmulik> imbrandon: I can try, sure.
[03:04] <imbrandon> shmulik: thanks
[03:04] <shmulik> I don't know 100% if it is taglib's fault.
[03:04] <viator> shmulik
[03:04] <chuckyp> dredhammer, sounds like a problem with auto mounting your cdrom then.
[03:04] <viator> yes ipod can support ogg
[03:04] <shmulik> imbrandon: What should I use to batch convert them?
[03:04] <GhostFreeman> Anyone know where I can download more Gnome panels
[03:04] <kairu0> anyone recommend a media player that integrates with ipods?
[03:05] <chuckyp> dreamthief, if you take it out and put it back in does it still work?
[03:05] <viator> you need to install firmware
[03:05] <dredhammer> oh boy how do i fix that?
[03:05] <chuckyp> GhostFreeman, more like what?
[03:05] <kitche> Waterbou: the install disc the disc that you installed from
[03:05] <shmulik> imbrandon: I'm not registered/identified =[
[03:05] <chuckyp> GhostFreeman, what are you trying to do?  because you can create panels wherever you want.
[03:05] <GhostFreeman> the little utilies you can add to the Gnome Panel
[03:05] <imbrandon> shmulik: ok , there are quite a few conversion util out there, player is nice
[03:05] <GhostFreeman> like weather and stock reader
[03:05] <imbrandon> err mplayer
[03:05] <viator> applets
[03:05] <viator> hes talking about applets
[03:05] <shmulik> imbrandon: What package is it in?  Oh...
[03:05] <GhostFreeman> yeah applets
[03:06] <shmulik> You mean mencoder?
[03:06] <new2linx> chuckyp why isn't anyone talking to me in the tabs that are on the left side of xchat?
[03:06] <chuckyp> GhostFreeman, yeah applets is what you are looking for.
[03:06] <imbrandon> shmulik: mencoder will work too
[03:06] <GhostFreeman> then I googled wrong, lol
[03:06] <Waterbou> kitche, I guess the other one worked
[03:06] <liuwei> join #ubuntu-cn
[03:06] <chuckyp> new2linx, well I was talking to you in a dialog but you weren't responding.
[03:06] <viator> shmulik you can install the rockbox firmware on your ipod
[03:06] <GhostFreeman> where's a good place to start
[03:06] <viator> its foss gpled
[03:06] <viator> it adds ogg support and more
[03:07] <chuckyp> new2linx, the buttons at the bottom should show the different channels you are in.  If you right click someones name you can open a dialog with them.
[03:07] <chuckyp> new2linx, I think that is what you are looking for.
[03:07] <kitche> chuckyp: he needs to identify to tlak in a private message
[03:07] <shmulik> viator: I was considering that, but iot's technicaly not my iPod and I love to tinker with stuff like that but since it's not mine and I've not done it before I don't feel 100% comfortable
[03:07] <viator> ah like your wife
[03:07] <chuckyp> new2linx, ahh you need to register your nick name to talk in private i'm sorry
[03:07] <viator> or gf boyfriend whatever
[03:08] <shmulik> imbrandon: Is there a simpler GUI-based batch conversion utility you know of to go from m4a --> mp3? =P
[03:08] <viator> i see
[03:08] <new2linx> the names are concistantly moving, I can't right click on anyones name
[03:08] <juggernaut1980> chuckyp, so i got the nm-applet open, but it doesn't register any wifi adapter
[03:08] <chuckyp> kitche, can he talk in a created channel with out identifying?
[03:08] <THX-1138> Bacaruda - The pastebin is busy. - you can see a copy of the xorg.conf  (if it ever gets posted)
[03:08] <kitche> chuckyp: yes if he joins one I been trying to have him join #kitchetech for a while now
[03:08] <imbrandon> shmulik: not that i'm aware, but that dosent mean there isnt ;)
[03:08] <Bacaruda> ok
[03:08] <chuckyp> new2linx, type in /join #chuckyp
[03:08] <new2linx> can someone help me register
[03:08] <imbrandon> !register
[03:08] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:09] <viator> i changed alot of those m4a files to mp3 a long time ago
[03:09] <viator> i found a sript
[03:09] <viator> somewhere for batch conversion of a directory
[03:09] <viator> maybe in the forums
[03:09] <viator> dont remember
[03:11] <m0> how do we change permission to restrict acces to root for some folders?
[03:11] <m0> nm
[03:11] <jUggERNAUt1980> anybody know the command for amsn?
[03:11] <Dr_willis> m0,  you want to keep the root user out?
[03:11] <GhostFreeman> namely i'm looking for an applet to control xmms/beep media player
[03:11] <dan2> uhh
[03:11] <dan2> dapper's units program is way borked
[03:11] <dehabu> jUggERNAUt1980 amsn
[03:11] <m0> Dr_willis: I think the http://pastebin.com/793018
[03:11] <THX-1138> Bacaruda here is the link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75527   (hm pastebin still hasn't posted my sample xorg.conf)
[03:12] <viator> to launch amsn forn the cli just type amsn
[03:12] <m0> Dr_willis: It askes me to change these permissions to restrict access to root, dunno why
[03:12] <jUggERNAUt1980> dehabu, sometimes this stuff is so obvious, i don't see it sitting right in front of my face!  :)
[03:12] <dan2> You have: 212 degfahrenheit
[03:12] <dan2> You want: degcelsius
[03:12] <dan2>         212 degfahrenheit = 117.77778 degcelsius
[03:12] <dan2>         212 degfahrenheit = (1 / 0.008490566) degcelsius
[03:12] <viator> it should be under applications>internet
[03:12] <dan2> that's retarded
[03:12] <THX-1138> Bacaruda  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/793048   <-- xorg.conf
[03:12] <dan2> units is broken
[03:12] <dan2> how do I file a bug on a program that is in stable
[03:12] <Dr_willis> m0,  its restricting access to ONLY root - i think
[03:13] <Wyzard> m0: Because you probably don't want ordinary users to be able to look at the VPN configuration
[03:13] <Wyzard> m0: for security reasons
[03:13] <m0> Wyzard: Ah okaythanks
[03:13] <m0> Wyzard: now I will test this vpn tomorroww
[03:13] <dh-laptop> does anyone here know of a good reference for built in webcams in linux?
[03:13] <m0> Thanks  :)
[03:15] <m0> I really don't get why linux is structured this way
[03:15] <m0> why is there /usr/bin
[03:15] <m0> and /usr/local/bin
[03:15] <m0> same thing as why is there /opt/ and why is there /etc/opt/
[03:15] <matti> m0: Google, and find the FHS (Filesystem Hierarchy Standard).
[03:15] <m0> matti: okay will do that
[03:15] <matti> m0: You'll got your answer then :)
[03:16] <stevarino> hey all, having a nasty issue with mounting a smb share that eventually locks up my whole system - 'smbumount' and 'pkill smb' does nothing to fix
[03:16] <Bacaruda> THX-1138 sorry I was AFK so I just use that as my xorg.conf to enable the xcompmgr
[03:16] <basscr> i need help with the jdbc driver of mysql, i'm using netbeans, and it tells me - ClassNotFoundException: com.mysql.jdbc.Driver
[03:16] <jUggERNAUt1980> can someone help me with configuring network-manager?
[03:16] <THX-1138> Bacaruda - Back up your own xorg file somwhere okay?
[03:16] <Bacaruda> yeah of course
[03:17] <THX-1138> Bacaruda here is the link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75527   The link on options
[03:17] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: It doesn't really need configuring...  what are you trying to do with it?
[03:17] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, that's what i thought.  i installed it and got the applet to run on startup, but it doesn't show that i have a wireless connection at all, but i'm connected wirelessly through networking
[03:18] <rmorris84> do u not know who i am!? he must not know who i am!
[03:18] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, i connected to the wifi network i'm currently on manually, but i want nm to handle it for me and "sniff out" other networks in my vicinity.
[03:19] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: If you're already connected to a wireless network then you've done some configuring of other things already...  what were you using for wireless network control before NM?
[03:19] <viator> jUggERNAUt1980 make sure newrk monitor
[03:19] <dan2> Why is units broken in Dapper Drake?
[03:19] <viator> is on the correct interface
[03:19] <crimsun> dan2: can you be more specific?
[03:19] <Wyzard> viator: It manages all network interfaces
[03:20] <viator> i mean make sure its on wlan0 or eth1
[03:20] <dan2> crimsun: see the paste I made above
[03:20] <viator> instread of eth0
[03:20] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, i set it up through system-->administration-->networking
[03:20] <rmorris84> i have a question i had a lil thingy (nooobish term i knowww) up by my calendar that when i clicked it it showed wireless networks around me and i accidently removed it how do i get that back?
[03:20] <Wyzard> viator: You don't run it on a particular interface...  it looks at all the interfaces in the system and handles configuring each of them as needed
[03:20] <viator> wyzard yes
[03:20] <viator> but
[03:21] <viator> if i have it on eth0
[03:21] <viator> it wont show me what eth1 is doing
[03:21] <m0> anyone here used Cisco VPN Client?
[03:21] <m0> Is there any gui?
[03:21] <Wyzard> You're missing the point...  you don't tell it to run on a single particular interface
[03:21] <viator> untill i select eth1
[03:21] <Wyzard> You don't *tell* it to run on eth0
[03:21] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, when i right click on the nm icon, it shows me a disconnected wired connection, but not a wireless one.
[03:21] <viator> ugh
[03:21] <viator> no you type
[03:21] <viator> eth1
[03:22] <viator> or eth0
[03:22] <viator> into the little box
[03:22] <viator> or use the dropdown
[03:22] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, and it doesn't give me any other options except about and remove
[03:22] <Wyzard> viator: Are we talking about the same program?
[03:22] <jUggERNAUt1980> viator is right, you can manually switch between wlan0 or ath0 if you want to, depending on which controller you want it to manage.
[03:23] <Wyzard> You can manually switch, but you do it by picking "wired connection" or a wireless network from a pop-up menu, not by typing "eth0" or "eth1" in a text box
[03:23] <jUggERNAUt1980> but it doesn't even do that, so i'm thinking that i need to manually configure nm to do what it's supposed to do automatically.
[03:23] <Wyzard> In your case it sounds like it's just not seeing your wireless interface
[03:23] <ChrisWhite> http://www.gen2net.net/images/ubuntu.png
[03:23] <ChrisWhite> mmm darkness :D
[03:24] <Wyzard> Unfortunately, this is sort of a distro-specific thing, and I'm more of a Debian user than an Ubuntu user
[03:24] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, that's what it looks like.
[03:24] <Wyzard> but in Debian at least, NM ignores interfaces that are configured in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:24] <viator> jUggERNAUt1980 do you have the little monitor scrren icons on your panel
[03:24] <viator> ?
[03:24] <Wyzard> which I think is what that thing on the Administration menu configures, though I haven't used that
[03:24] <jUggERNAUt1980> viator, yes, with a little exclamation point on it.
[03:25] <viator> if you double click on that
[03:25] <viator> and choose the proper interface does it change?
[03:25] <jUggERNAUt1980> viator, left click shows deselected wired connection, right click shows enable networking menu thing
[03:25] <jUggERNAUt1980> viator, double-clicked, nothing happened.
[03:25] <viator> left click
[03:25] <viator> then
[03:26] <viator> and change the interface
[03:26] <viator> is yours wlan0 or ath0 etc?
[03:26] <viator> just type it intothe drop down box
[03:26] <jUggERNAUt1980> viator, the only item in the menu when i left click shows greyed out wired network.
[03:27] <jUggERNAUt1980> viator, my wifi is set to ath0, but it doesn't show in there.
[03:27] <viator> can you amnually type it
[03:27] <viator> into the box
[03:27] <Tidus> i have a question.  i have a Linksys WPC54G v.2, and i'm trying Kobalt's method on the forums, without much success.... anybody willing to help me get the wifi on my laptop working?
[03:27] <jUggERNAUt1980> viator, nope
[03:27] <jUggERNAUt1980> is there a config file that i'll have to edit?
[03:28] <viator> if you click configure
[03:28] <viator> there
[03:28] <jUggERNAUt1980> viator, no configure option.
[03:28] <viator> ummm
[03:28] <viator> weird
[03:28] <jUggERNAUt1980> i know there's something i'm missing here
[03:28] <HabaKKuk> excusemoi
[03:29] <jUggERNAUt1980> i just set it up, did the apt-get on network-manager and natwork-manager-gnome.
[03:29] <viator> wyzard it says connection then underneath says name:
[03:29] <jUggERNAUt1980> i didn't get any errors on that install, but it isn't showing what i expect.
[03:29] <viator> then a box
[03:29] <viator> to the right
[03:29] <viator> you CAN type in ther ya know
[03:30] <Wyzard> viator: I click on the icon and I get a popup listing the two wired adapters (there's no wireless in my Ubuntu box)
[03:30] <Wyzard> viator: One's selected, the other's grayed out because there's no cable plugged into that one, and those are the only choices
[03:30] <viator> ill take a screen shot for you
[03:30] <jUggERNAUt1980> viator, u gonna pastebin that?
[03:30] <Wyzard> viator: If I right-click I can get a "connection information" menu that shows me that I'm using eth1 and tells me my IP address, but there's no input box there
[03:30] <Tidus> i have a question.  i have a Linksys WPC54G v.2, and i'm trying Kobalt's method on the forums, without much success.... anybody willing to help me get the wifi on my laptop working?
[03:31] <jUggERNAUt1980> viator, u gonna pastebin that??
[03:31] <jUggERNAUt1980> sorry, wrong button
[03:31] <jUggERNAUt1980> tidus, what's your wifi chipset?
[03:31] <Tidus> jUggERNAUt1980: TI ACX111
[03:31] <dh-laptop> he guys
[03:31] <dh-laptop> Bus 005 Device 002: ID 0c45:624f Microdia
[03:32] <dh-laptop> how can i tell what /dev/* this is?
[03:32] <jUggERNAUt1980> tidus, i'm not familiar with that one, is it linux-friendly?  what's your lappy?
[03:32] <Tidus> jUggERNAUt1980: dapper has the drivers, but the firmware they try to load isn't the right one
[03:33] <Tidus> and my laptop is an old Fujitsu Lifebook... p2-233 with 160mb ram
[03:33] <micahcowan> When running ubuntu server edition, logged in via ssh, what is the preferred method for deactivating services for startup? Is it best to do remove symlinks from the runlevel directories by hand, or is there a utility similar to chkconfig, etc?
[03:33] <jUggERNAUt1980> tidus, do you have the disc with the drivers for that chipset?  you'll probably have to use ndiswrapper.
[03:33] <Tidus> jUggERNAUt1980: i do have the driver cd, but i'm trying to avoid ndiswrapper if possible.
[03:34] <Wyzard> micahcowan: man update-rc.d
[03:34] <jUggERNAUt1980> tidus, yeah, that's understandable, but i don't know of another way.
[03:34] <jUggERNAUt1980> tidus, ewww....p2??  ewwwww.....
[03:35] <Dr_willis> P.2 :P
[03:35] <Tidus> jUggERNAUt1980: it was free...
[03:35] <micahcowan> Wyzard, thanks very much.
[03:35] <jUggERNAUt1980> tidus, we all like free!  :)
[03:35] <jUggERNAUt1980> tidus, i pay out the azz for my shiat
[03:35] <etzerd> Hello all
[03:36] <etzerd> what's the topic tonight?
[03:36] <jUggERNAUt1980> tidus, toshiba satellite a105-s2081
[03:36] <etzerd> I have a question
[03:36] <viator> http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n136/viamptor/Screenshot2.png
[03:37] <new2linx> how do i use pastebin
[03:37] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: FWIW, "sudo less /var/log/syslog" and search for the word "Network"...  might give you some insight into why the NM daemon is ignoring your wireless interface
[03:37] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, thanks, i'll try that
[03:37] <Wyzard> viator: aha...  that's Network Monitor, not Network Manager  :-)
[03:37] <jay_> do the open source ati drivers support aiglx?
[03:37] <viator> ah see
[03:38] <Wyzard> viator: http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[03:38] <etzerd> I have a SHARP LCDTV 23" Whide screen the higher resolution for it is 1360X768
[03:38] <linuxcrazy> this is incredible, 851 people in ONE channel?!
[03:38] <linuxcrazy> it's outrageous
[03:38] <Wyzard> viator: There's a screenshot on that page of what jUggERNAUt1980 and I are seeing
[03:38] <kyja> I still want my bcm3206 to work at 54g instead of 11b
[03:38] <viator> yeah the network monitor you can choose the interface by typing in that box
[03:38] <viator> i see we were talking bout 2 diff things
[03:38] <etzerd> when I use Gnome the higher resolution I can set it up is 1280X768 which I believe is a 4:3 standard not a 16:9 standard
[03:39] <Rug> I am ahving a problem with nvidia & X.  I get the nvidia logo at boot, but I can't run glxinfo.
[03:39] <etzerd> is there's a way I can set up to a higher resolution using Gnome
[03:40] <[BTF] Chm0d> has anyone gotten a wintv pvr150 working without using mythtv?
[03:41] <viator> network manager is just the thing under sys admin networking
[03:41] <etzerd> nobody wants to help me out?
[03:41] <Rug> etzerd: You can manually edit your sorg.conf file
[03:41] <viator> i thought that was installed by default
[03:41] <viator> i didnt install it just came with dapper
[03:41] <Wyzard> viator: nope, that's something different too
[03:41] <Wyzard> viator: It's confusing, I know
[03:41] <viator> looks the same
[03:42] <etzerd> rug: I manually edit xorg.conf to set it up to 1280X768 not sorg.conf
[03:42] <Wyzard> viator: Install network-manager and network-manager-gnome, then run "nm-applet &" from a shell and look in your tray
[03:42] <etzerd> where sorg.conf is stored?
[03:42] <Rug> ack, sorry typo
[03:42] <otis> hey everyone.  I am trying to build the last mono on dapper and am getting an error.  Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[03:42] <dh-laptop> Bus 005 Device 002: ID 0c45:624f Microdia
[03:42] <lmosher> my screen just goes blank when I hit Ctrl+Alt+F1. It never did this before I installed the 'nvidia' drivers (it works fine under the 'nv' driver)
[03:42] <dh-laptop> how do I make this /dev/video0
[03:42] <Bacaruda> hmm Im having a problem with running .sh files Im trying to download a couple of game demos and they are .SH and when I click them nothing happens
[03:42] <jay_> do the ati open source drivers support aiglx?
[03:42] <baconbacon> etzerd: did you look at system -> preferences -> resolution
[03:43] <zack_> how do i get to the multimedia settings?
[03:43] <unfknblvbl> Bacaruda: sudo -i
[03:43] <etzerd> I did baconbacon, whatever on xorg.conf that's what you see there on resolution
[03:43] <Bacaruda> sudo -i then the file name?
[03:43] <unfknblvbl> Bacaruda: sh ./FILENAME.sh
[03:44] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, syslog says no DHCPOFFERS received
[03:44] <unfknblvbl> sudo -i to get you into superuser mode or whatever it is
[03:44] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, that's dhcp client 3.03
[03:44] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: On your wireless interface?
[03:44] <unfknblvbl> and then the sh ./FILENAME.sh to ru the FILENAME.sh file
[03:44] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: Look for stuff from NetworkManager
[03:44] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, yes.
[03:44] <baconbacon> etzerd: well xorg shoud detect available resolutions so yes you see what's in xorg.conf...
[03:44] <jUggERNAUt1980> ok, i'll keep looking down for networkmanager in here.
[03:44] <viator> hah says networking disabled
[03:44] <Rug> !nvidia
[03:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:45] <zack_> how do i get to the multimedia settings in dapper?
[03:45] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, that's localhost dhclient
[03:45] <etzerd> baconbacon: let me ask you this? which of the two GUI is best Gnome or KDE?
[03:45] <viator>  * Stopping DHCP client manager...                                       [fail] 
[03:45] <baconbacon> etzerd: if you changed monitor or video card, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to setup x again
[03:45] <viator> thats why prolly
[03:45] <MrNaz> whats the default window manager in ubuntu? kde or gnome?
[03:46] <baconbacon> ubuntu -> gnome, kubuntu -> kde
[03:46] <krazykit> MrNaz: ubuntu uses gnome, kubuntu uses kde, xubuntu uses xfce
[03:46] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: Don't look at lines from the DHCP client...  look for lines that begin with "NetworkManager: <information>"
[03:46] <charles_> i'm trying to extract files to a folder and it tells me Extraction not performed you don't have the right permissions to extract arcives in the folder "/usr/local/games/enemy-territory"  what should i do?
[03:46] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, ok looking
[03:46] <MrNaz> thanks guys
[03:46] <unfknblvbl> however KDE has more of a child look
[03:46] <lmosher> my screen just goes blank when I hit Ctrl+Alt+F1. It never did this before I installed the 'nvidia' drivers (it works fine under the 'nv' driver)
[03:46] <dh-laptop> how can I make this /dev/video0?
[03:46] <dh-laptop> Bus 005 Device 002: ID 0c45:624f Microdia
[03:46] <baconbacon> unfknblvbl: and gnome as more of an old look ? :P
[03:47] <stevarino> hey all, having a nasty issue with mounting a smb share that eventually locks up my whole system - 'smbumount' and 'pkill smb' does nothing to fix
[03:47] <MrNaz> oh crap i started a religious war :P
[03:47] <baconbacon> nah
[03:47] <unfknblvbl> baconbacon: yeh, but you can mod gnome to look modern, the human theme is modern gnome
[03:47] <MrNaz> yea... its not really a war.... gnome won already so its more just yelling from the losing side
[03:48] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, i'm seeing a lot of hdc command errors in here.
[03:48] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, should i be worried about that?
[03:48] <charles_> i'm trying to extract files to a folder and it tells me Extraction not performed you don't have the right permissions to extract arcives in the folder "/usr/local/games/enemy-territory"  what should i do?
[03:48] <Dr_willis> charles_,  you can install the game to the users home dir if you wanted to.
[03:48] <viator> ugh that thing killed gnome pwere manager
[03:48] <Dr_willis> charles_,  or install it as root for everyone.
[03:48] <viator> i had to restart it
[03:48] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: Possibly, but it depends on specifically what they are
[03:48] <baconbacon> unfknblvbl, MrNaz im moving this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:48] <charles_> how do i install as root?
[03:48] <etzerd> baconbacon: let me ask you this? which of the two GUI is best Gnome or KDE?
[03:48] <Dr_willis> run the installer as root
[03:49] <Wyzard> viator: That's weird...  I run it alongside g-p-m with no problems
[03:49] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, DriveReadySeekComplete error
[03:49] <viator> it was greyed out for me too
[03:49] <viator> anyway
[03:49] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: Yes, that's a problem...  could be a defective cable, or could be a dying drive
[03:49] <malice_> anyone know of a url that will tell me a plug and play PDA for ubuntu?
[03:49] <lmosher> Another way to phrase my question: How do I specify the resolution of my TTY? FOr whatever reason when I switched to the nvidia driver my TTY stoped working
[03:50] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard!  this is a new lappy out of the box tho!  scary!!
[03:50] <krazykit> lmosher: it's a kernel config, as i recall.
 Rumour has it ubuntu is sooo much easier
[03:50] <raiXer> is that true?
[03:50] <lmosher> krazykit, Any more info on that?
[03:50] <charles_> okay whats my home dir?
[03:50] <baconbacon> raiXer: yes.
[03:50] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: Well, at least if it's new you probably don't have lots of important data on it (yet) that you'd lose if the drive died
[03:50] <krazykit> lmosher: it's been ages since i've had to set it.  nope.  you could search on the ubuntu and gentoo wikis, though.  both are excellent resources
[03:50] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, glass half full then?
[03:50] <malice_> !pda
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:51] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: Find out which company manufactured the hard drive, go to their website, and see if they have a diagnostic tool you can download...  it'll probably be in the form of an ISO that burns a bootable CD
[03:51] <lmosher> krazykit, which ubuntu wiki? help.ubuntu.org?
[03:51] <Mystilleef_> Does anyone know where the Java path is on Ubuntu?
[03:51] <baconbacon> raiXer: but remember you're asking in the ubuntu support channel :)
[03:51] <krazykit> lmosher: uh, i guess
[03:51] <charles_> Dr_willis Where should i install it to start?
[03:51] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: Use that to test the drive for problems...  you might need to get it replaced
[03:51] <viator> juggernaut you using a native linux driver
[03:51] <Bacaruda> is there a way to edit what appears in the menus on GNOME?
[03:52] <viator> or ndiswraaper or linuxtant
[03:52] <unfknblvbl> Bacaruda: right-click on the ubuntu logo in the top left and go edit menu
[03:52] <Wyzard> I think NM supports most wireless drivers these days, though some esoteric ones might not be supported
[03:52] <charles_> where should i install a program so i don't need to be root to extract files there later?
[03:52] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard thanks for that!  :)
[03:53] <Bacaruda> thx
[03:53] <viator> i have the driverloader
[03:53] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: Good thing NM didn't work right, or you would never have looked and seen that  :-)
[03:53] <unfknblvbl> np
[03:53] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, heck yes!
[03:53] <Dr_willis> charles_,   i just install it in the users home dir. since i dont want it installed system wide
[03:54] <charles_> I get what your saying but i don't know which is user wide and what is specific to my user
[03:55] <viator> does ubuntu support the BCM4318 even through ndiswraaper yet
[03:55] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, my bluetooth seems to be working ok, but i don't have anythig that connects via bluetooth!  :P
[03:56] <viator> last time i looked it didnt
[03:56] <stevarino> how do i go about installing zsnes :)
[03:56] <SpacePuppy> rofl
[03:56] <charles_> because the dir /usr/local/games/ i thought would have been for my user only but i need to be root to extract there so what would the path be?
[03:57] <Dr_willis> charles_,  try /home/username/games or somthiong
[03:57] <Dr_willis> or run the installer with sudo
[03:57] <charles_> ty
[03:57] <Dr_willis> logical eh.
[03:57] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: It's possible that your wireless chipset just isn't supported, which is why I asked you to look for informational messages from NetworkManager in syslog
[03:57] <charles_> sorry i don't mean to be a pain, i've very new to linux
[03:58] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, the chipset seems to be fine, but i see this message in syslog:  NetworkManager: <WARNING>^I nm_dbus_get_networks_cb (): nm-dbus-nmi.c:522 (nm_dbus_get_networks_cb): error received: org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo.NoNetworks - There are no wireless networks stored..
[03:58] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: On my Ubuntu box I see messages in syslog saying that NetworkManager has found both eth0 and eth1 and that they're fully-supported
[03:58] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, i see those messages for eth0 only, but not ath0
[03:58] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: That doesn't look like the root cause of a problem...  looks like something's asking for a list of wireless networks, and NM can't respond because it doesn't know about any
[03:59] <charles_> i am running with sudo but when i do the extract i'm doing it without terminol and i don't know how to use sudo then
[03:59] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, that's how i interpreted it, too.  it doesn't seem to be trying to access ath0 at all, but i'm on wirelessly right now.
[03:59] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: What type of wireless chipset do you have?
[03:59] <Half-Left> charles_, you could just do sudo nautilus --no-desktop and extract the files like normal
[03:59] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: Atheros 5212 by any chance?
[03:59] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, i just want it because i'm mobile and don't have my own network
[03:59] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, that's exactly it!
[04:00] <jUggERNAUt1980> atheros 5212
[04:00] <viator> network manager  i cant even see any interfaces
[04:00] <viator> and i have 2
[04:00] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/networkmanager-list/2004-November/msg00085.html
[04:00] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: but that's from nearly two years ago, so I'm surprised if it still doesn't work
[04:00] <Bluhd> How do I add an OpenGL rendering context into a Glad interface?
[04:00] <charles_> half-left i have no idea what that means
[04:00] <Bluhd> *Glade
[04:00] <Half-Left> charles_, run sudo nautilus --no-desktop from the terminal
[04:00] <Wyzard> Bluhd: There's a "libgtkgl" library that gives you a a GTK widget containing a GL context
[04:01] <Wyzard> Bluhd: I haven't used it myself, but it's probably what you want
[04:01] <Bluhd> Wyzard: should I apt-get install that?
[04:01] <Half-Left> charles_, the  you can extract the files to the directory you want with the filemanager
[04:01] <Wyzard> Bluhd: I guess so, if you want to program with it
[04:01] <Half-Left> then*
[04:01] <Wyzard> Bluhd: might be a good idea to look at the documentation for it first
[04:01] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard:  oh, that's funny!  it says exactly what is going on here.  do you know of another sniffer app i can use then?
[04:01] <viator> will edgy have nework manager for laptops
[04:01] <viator> by default
[04:02] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard:  i'm fine with using the other to connect with, but want to be able to sniff out routers in my range.
[04:02] <synchk> 	x)
[04:02] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: You can do it manually with "sudo iwlist scan" from a shell, but that's a pain
[04:02] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, i remember that command from another lappy i had linux on
[04:03] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, what about wifi radar?
[04:03] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: never used it
[04:03] <Wyzard> but if it works, go for it
[04:03] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, thanks!  :)
[04:03] <viator> wifi-radar - graphical utility for managing Wi-Fi profiles
[04:04] <etzerd> How do I remove the second status bar at the botton in Gnome and have all the application that I open thereafter minimize on the taskbar on top?
[04:04] <Wyzard> viator: I don't suppose you have an Atheros 5212 as well?
[04:04] <chuckyp> jUggERNAUt1980, you didn't get network-manager installed?
[04:04] <viator> nope
[04:04] <viator> Broadcom BCM4318
[04:05] <chuckyp> jUggERNAUt1980, if you just want to sniff for wireless networks.  Kismet is the best
[04:05] <malice_> anyone know of a url that will tell me a plug and play PDA for ubuntu?
[04:05] <charles_> I'm still very very lost, i installed the game to home/user/games/ and it gives me the same extraction error
[04:05] <jUggERNAUt1980> chuckyp, i got it installed, but it just ignores my wifi card.
[04:05] <viator> charles maybe you should chmod the file
[04:06] <Half-Left> malice_, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy or the dapper one
[04:06] <lostinc> is there a prog that will tell me when my gmail account has mail?
[04:07] <chuckyp> jUggERNAUt1980, well kismet is the hova when it comes to searching for wireless networks.  But it doesn't let you connect to them.
[04:07] <malice_> half-left, ty
[04:07] <Half-Left> lostinc, I believe there is some kind of applet for it yes
[04:07] <jUggERNAUt1980> chuckyp, thanks muchly!  i'm thinking that all i really need is to know the essid and then i can attemp to manually connect.
[04:07] <lostinc> okay I have seen some in synaptic but wondered how good they were
[04:08] <Delicates> is there any way to reprint the last printed job in CUPS?
[04:08] <Half-Left> not tried then, evolution does let you know
[04:08] <Half-Left> them*
[04:08] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard:  how do i exit from this less viewer?
[04:08] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: 'q'
[04:09] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, thanks!
[04:10] <jUggERNAUt1980> could anyone recommend a good p2p app for ubuntu?
[04:10] <jUggERNAUt1980> i have frostwire, but i heard gnutella gtk is better?
[04:10] <Half-Left> overnet
[04:10] <lostinc> is there a way in GNOME to make icons align horizontally not vertically
[04:11] <ferronrsmith> cant find drivers for my dell printer
[04:11] <Half-Left> lostinc, drag then where you want :p
[04:12] <Half-Left> them*
[04:12] <jdroid-> i'm stoked on ubuntu! i was a gentoo user for about 4 years and a slackware user prior. I'm loving ubuntu!
[04:12] <ferronrsmith> The printer is a Dell Photo AIO 922
[04:12] <jUggERNAUt1980> jdroid, i'm with ya on that one.  high 5!  :P
[04:13] <lostinc> the 'clean up'comman only does vertical so even when I have them where I want  them if someone runs that I losre the placement
[04:13] <ferronrsmith>  The printer is a Dell Photo AIO 922
[04:13] <Half-Left> jdroid-, good for you :p
[04:13] <jdroid-> i know i'm preaching to the choir... :)
[04:13] <ferronrsmith> Can't find drivers for my printer,  The printer is a Dell Photo AIO 922
[04:14] <ferronrsmith> Anyone can help me????
[04:14] <ferronrsmith> Cant find the drivers for my printer
[04:14] <Dr_willis> check cups.org yet?
[04:15] <Owner> im having trouble running my mini pci modem on ubuntu can anyone help
[04:15] <jdroid-> ferronrsmith: quick google search indicates the aio 922 driver might be the same as the lexmark x5270
[04:16] <jbroome> yeah, those dells are rebadged lexmarks
[04:16] <ferronrsmith> thanks pal
[04:16] <woodgrain> Yesterday I blew up my libc6. ... I want to reinstall.  system steadily failing.  No synaptic.  only shell.  how to reinstall?
[04:17] <Owner> can anyone help me
[04:17] <Wyzard> woodgrain: If you don't have libc6, nothing at all will work, not even a shell
[04:18] <woodgrain> Wyzard, yeah, that's what I'm learning.  How can I reinstall the library?
[04:19] <Wyzard> Boot from the livecd
[04:19] <chuckyp> woodgrain, you'd probably have to boot from live cd and then chroot and install from a deb.
[04:19] <Wyzard> can't chroot if libc6 is hosed
[04:19] <mersco> Does anyone know where I could find an archive of the compiz repositories so I can get an older working compiz deb?
[04:19] <woodgrain> chuckyp, install the entire distro or just the library?
[04:19] <dan2> Wyzard: unless it's statically compiled
[04:19] <Wyzard> but you can download the .deb and use dpkg's "--root" option to install it without having to chroot
[04:20] <chuckyp> Wyzard, very nice I didn't know about --root
[04:20] <jdroid-> dan2: is chroot usually statically compiled? would make sense since things could break after the chroot itself took place...
[04:20] <woodgrain> Wyzard, can you tell me which version of libc6 I should run with dapper?
[04:20] <dan2> chroot is not statically linked
[04:20] <ferronrsmith> don't c any driver for the lexmark x5270
[04:21] <Wyzard> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/base/libc6
[04:21] <Wyzard> that one
[04:21] <etzerd> which one of the two GUI is best Gnome or KDE
[04:21] <Wyzard> For cleanliness, it might be a good idea to "dpkg --purge --force-depends" the old one before installing it again
[04:21] <jdroid-> etzerd: HA! Which is a better editor? emacs or vim
[04:21] <woodgrain> Wyzard, I have a deb now for the lib ... it's libc6_2.3.6.ds1-4_i386.deb  ... but I think this is the one that hosed my system (well I hosed my system with this library, I should say)
[04:22] <Owner> im having trouble running my mini pci modem on ubuntu can anyone help
[04:22] <chuckyp> etzerd, I would try both
[04:22] <etzerd> jdroid-: good question
[04:22] <chuckyp> etzerd, and form your own opiniton
[04:22] <chuckyp> !troll
[04:22] <Wyzard> woodgrain: Where did you get that deb from?
[04:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:22] <karsten> I'm helping someone (physically here) do an Ubuntu install onto an iMac, using an external USB drive.
[04:22] <woodgrain> Wyzard, I have only shell and thie terminal in xchat.  Do you know of a way to download the library from the web?
[04:22] <woodgrain> Wyzard, I got it from debian.
[04:22] <ferronrsmith> can't find printer driver for lexmark x5270
[04:22] <karsten> How do I get the external drive recognized by Ubuntu?
[04:22] <ferronrsmith> help me
[04:22] <etzerd> which one you use chuckyp?
[04:22] <Wyzard> woodgrain: Installing Debian packages on Ubuntu is a bad idea
[04:22] <ferronrsmith> where do i get it???
[04:22] <karsten> woodgrain: ... and vice versa
[04:22] <ferronrsmith> not at cups .org
[04:22] <woodgrain> Wyzard, yeah, uh, I'm learning the hard way.
[04:23] <Wyzard> woodgrain: especially for essential things...  and libc6 is the most essential package in the entire system
[04:23] <etzerd> I'm from Windows XP and I see KDE is very similar
[04:23] <jdroid-> ferronrsmith: chill and take your time... :) i don't know where
[04:23] <chuckyp> woodgrain, boot to the live cd wget the  proper .deb from the sight by Wyzard then dpkg install it with the --root option to your hardisk.
[04:23] <woodgrain> Wyzard, I didn't know that then ... but I do now.
[04:23] <karsten> ferronrsmith: HP publishes drivers, a bunch of the lexmark kit is supported.
[04:23] <etzerd> but don't take me wrong Gnome has better Graphic than KDE
[04:23] <woodgrain> Wyzard, can I download the right library wit hat shell terminal
[04:23] <etzerd> that is why it is hard for me to decide
[04:24] <chuckyp> woodgrain, how did you hose it in the first place?
[04:24] <Wyzard> woodgrain: Use the livecd...  you don't have to stick with a shell on your broken system
[04:24] <klick> hey all, does anyone know how in firefox (Bon Echo2.2) to make it so the close tab button is always on the far right, not the individual tab
[04:24] <woodgrain> chuckyp, by installing a deb from the debian site ... a newer ve4rsion needed for an open source application I use.
[04:24] <karsten> wups, it's a firewire drive
[04:24] <Wyzard> chuckyp: At the very least, use the version from edgy, not from Debian
[04:24] <blanky> !nvidia
[04:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:25] <woodgrain> Wyzard, best route is to download and burn this live disk (or the alternate?) on another machine, then load from live ??? what'll happen then?
[04:25] <Wyzard> but the Debian package is also version 2.3.6, the same version that's in dapper, so I don't see what you expected to gain
[04:26] <Wyzard> You can use the alternate CD if you really want, but I meant the regular install one, that gives you a nice convenient graphical desktop
[04:26] <woodgrain> well this deb apparently blew me out of the water ... the one I listed above.
[04:26] <jUggERNAUt1980> wifi-radar works!  :D
[04:26] <Wyzard> Boot the livecd, use the web browser to download the deb, and use dpkg with --root to install it
[04:26] <jUggERNAUt1980> i couldn't figure out kismet with this "i-want-it-now" attitude i seem to have.  o.O
[04:27] <woodgrain> Wyzard, thatnks for the help.  I'll try to get that live disk ... see what happpens.  THanks again.  this is a great channel for help.
[04:28] <brian98> can you install kde on top of ubuntu?
[04:28] <hondje> brian98: yes, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:28] <m0> =hi, which flash plugin do you guys use?
[04:28] <m0> I am using libflash-mozplugin and it is causing alot of problems
[04:29] <brian98> hondje: can you do something real slick like alt f6 toi switch between gnome and kde or am I asking too much ;)
[04:29] <m0> not many websites are working
[04:29] <Wyzard> m0: flashplugin-nonfree, from multiverse
[04:29] <jdroid-> m0: good question. i'd love a flash plug-in that reliably plays youtube vids... suggestions anyone?
[04:29] <Dr_willis> jdroid-,  mine is working fine for youtube
[04:29] <jdroid-> even non-free doesn't always work, unforth
[04:29] <hondje> brian98: ... yeah, but it's a lot of work. I doubt you'll find someone to walk you through it :)
[04:29] <jdroid-> Dr_willis: which do you use?
[04:29] <Tomcat_> jdroid-: Adobe Flash 7 is unreliable for you?
[04:29] <Dr_willis> jdroid-,  and i just installed this system.
[04:29] <m0> Dr_willis: which one are you using?
[04:29] <hondje> brian98: It's easier to use a nested xserver
[04:29] <Dr_willis> jdroid-,  i will admit im not sure..  i decided to try out that Easyubuntu script.
[04:29] <jdroid-> Tomcat_: Dr_willis yes, flash 7 works fine, but sound is unrealiable for youtube
[04:29] <MugginsM> adobe aren't interested in Linux users, as far as I can tell
[04:29] <Dr_willis> :P
[04:29] <m0> Tomcat_: adobe's plugin crashes my system
[04:29] <Wyzard> MugginsM: They're developing Flash 9 for Linux...
[04:30] <Dr_willis> jdroid-,  not noticed any sound issues in the 5 videos i jsut watched
[04:30] <brian98> i loves a chelleng me!
[04:30] <jdroid-> Wyzard: i read that too. maybe we'll see it in jan
[04:30] <brian98> :)
[04:30] <m0> which one you are using Dr_willis
[04:30] <Tomcat_> jdroid-, m0: It crashed my browser for some time because of some script error, but that stopped when YouTube improved their player software.
[04:30] <MugginsM> wyz: so they say, but they haven't even really released flash *7* for many linux platforms
[04:30] <hondje> brian98: you can do fun things like use xdmcp though :)
[04:30] <brian98> challenge even!
[04:30] <Dr_willis> m0,  whatever one easyubuntu installed.. not even sure how to check.. lets see..
[04:30] <Wyzard> I don't use "many Linux platforms", but it works fine in Debian and Ubuntu, so I'm happy enough with it
[04:30] <m0> Tomcat_: how did you install it
[04:30] <MugginsM> debian and ubuntu on *intel* :)
[04:30] <Wyzard> fair enough
[04:31] <Dr_willis> flashplugin-nonfree it seems
[04:31] <brian98> hondje: any opinions on other distros?
[04:31] <Wyzard> I don't own any non-Intel hardware
[04:31] <Tomcat_> m0: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree? :o
[04:31] <hondje> I'm full of opinions, but you'd have to /msg me to get them...chan is busy as it is :)
[04:31] <m0> i hope it works :s
[04:32] <jdroid-> brian98: gentoo is pretty awesome. depends what you're looking for, though.
[04:32] <n1xt3r> How come everything I compile on a powerpc fails to execute with "Illegal instruction"? Is this a problem with gcc-4xx?
[04:32] <jdroid-> brian98: i recently installed ubuntu after a coworker was talking about it and i'm pretty stoked on it.
[04:32] <MugginsM> n1xt3r: powerpc should be fine
[04:32] <Tomcat_> n1xt3r: Sounds to me as if the software wasn't multi-platform.
[04:32] <brian98> jdroid-: I got a laptop last night just to check out the rc1 of Vista
[04:32] <sethk> n1xt3r, it was not compiled for powerpc
[04:33] <m0> yay
[04:33] <m0> I pressed the yellow thing, and said install
[04:33] <brian98> jdroid-: I had to see
[04:33] <m0> now Firefox CRASHES
[04:33] <brian98> jdroid-: it's bad
[04:33] <sethk> n1xt3r, you need to use a cross compiler when building code _for_ powerpc but not _on_ powerpc
[04:33] <m0> The flash plugin crashed my firefox...
[04:33] <brian98> jdroid-: in fact terrible!!!
[04:33] <m0> it closes it automatically if the page has flash
[04:33] <sethk> n1xt3r, it's an illegal instruction because it's the wrong processor.  Not surprising.
[04:34] <Tomcat_> brian98: full ack... people always say that the RC1 is quite stable already and that it could be used on their machines... but when you read about the horrible bugs... not even the *alpha* of Ubuntu edgy has such bad bugs.
[04:34] <m0> where is firefox installed?
[04:34] <sethk> m0, /usr/bin/firefox, usually
[04:34] <jdroid-> brian98: d'oh! i have to use windows at work because i need excel. i did some tweaking and usually work inside eclipse or a cygwin window so it's at least tolerable
[04:34] <sethk> m0, although that's probably not what you want to know
[04:34] <n1xt3r> sethk: I've compiled software before on my powerpc, I'm just noticing this ffmpeg and mplayer. mplayer works, but barely.
[04:35] <jdroid-> brian98: they also choose the os. i'm just a dev. :)
[04:35] <Tomcat_> m0: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins for plugins :)
[04:35] <brian98> not even that, the amount of resources and the little improvments... I played with it for ours lat night
[04:35] <m0> i wnat to know where the firefox plugins are
[04:35] <sethk> jdroid-, oocalc works reasonably well with excel files
[04:35] <mike1> lo
[04:35] <sethk> n1xt3r, that illegal instruction problem is caused by some type of build error
[04:35] <brian98> it's really time for a decent linux distro to start to attack
[04:35] <Tomcat_> brian98: Yeah, the little improvements don't really justify the 100+ USD price tag.
[04:35] <Dr_willis> Im just annoyed that Adult Swim "fix" dont work for me. :(
[04:35] <jUggERNAUt1980> attack?
[04:35] <Dr_willis> http://www.adultswim.com/adultswimfix/index.jsp    work for anyone else?
[04:35] <sethk> n1xt3r, wrong processor, possibly wrong processor variant, wrong exe format, etc.
[04:35] <mike1> My Dapper install crashes when I connect to my brothers home network, where should I look first to find out why this is happening. (I've got to fix it quick)
[04:36] <brian98> because if that's the best they can do , with a little thought we can do WAY better!
[04:36] <m0> Nice... My firefox restarts by itself if visiting flash
[04:36] <m0> how do I fix that???
[04:36] <jdroid-> sethk: it works ok. a lot of the people where i work do a lot of vba
[04:36] <m0> removing flash :(
[04:36] <Tomcat_> Dr_willis: Works for me.
[04:36] <sethk> n1xt3r, no other way to get an illegal instruction in a protected mode environment with proper separation of code and data
[04:36] <m0> Removing Firefox...
[04:36] <m0> And reinstalling it :(
[04:36] <sethk> m0, flash also has major league space and processor leaks.
[04:36] <m0> so how do we access flash stuff...
[04:36] <m0> quit linux?
[04:37] <sethk> jdroid-, sometimes you have to resort to windows.  oocalc helps me reduce the number of times, somewhat.
[04:37] <Tomcat_> m0: Install flashplugin-nonfree? :o
[04:37] <sethk> jdroid-, but no way to reduce it to zero.
[04:37] <jUggERNAUt1980> dr_willis works for me too!
[04:37] <Dr_willis> Tomcat_,  bummer..
[04:37] <Captain_A> alright
[04:37] <Dr_willis> wonder what i am missing
[04:37] <jUggERNAUt1980> dr_willis, i have the mplayer plugin for viewing it, tho.
[04:37] <jdroid-> sethk: preaching to the choir here. windows at work is fine. like i was saying i tweaked in ways. i have 3 virtual desktops, aqua style launcher, no icons on the desktop, and cygwin. i barely notice it's windows most of the time
[04:37] <Dr_willis> aha -  let me try that..  clean install. no mplayer yet.
[04:37] <Captain_A> i need either a link to a step by step guide on getting my wmp54 gs pci card to wrok in ubunte
[04:38] <m0> I don't know what happened... I installed flash and now firefox is not working :(
[04:38] <Captain_A> i have no idea how
[04:38] <baconbacon> m0, how did you install flash
[04:38] <m0> how do I complely remove FLASH and reinstall it?
[04:38] <n1xt3r> sethk: Thanks, I've compiled ffmpeg and mplayer before, just not today I guess.
[04:38] <Captain_A> and can't understand all the things they are referring too
[04:38] <brian98> tomcat_ the biggest bug in breezy at the min which causes me major headaches is the rdesktop bug.. It totally hangs X if you leave it running for a little while
[04:38] <jUggERNAUt1980> dr_willis, ur not missing much.  it looks like the little alien dude is humping his dad's head
[04:38] <brian98> I can recreate
[04:38] <m0> baconbacon: a yellow bar came from the top and said if I want to isntall it. and I said yes and then restarted firefox and whenever visitng a flash page it closes by itself crash
[04:38] <brian98> and I admin a lot of w2003 boxes
[04:38] <Chris9> Hi Does any one know how to get iango working on a lan?
[04:39] <Tomcat_> brian98: Only showstopper for me is the font rendering issue in firefox, which has been fixed as I've read...
[04:39] <Dr_willis> jUggERNAUt1980,  now THATS comedy!
[04:39] <Dr_willis> :P
[04:39] <Tomcat_> brian98: But that bug you describe sounds naughty. :o
[04:39] <brian98> I got around it by using a kde app
[04:39] <brosnan> klick: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.tabs.closeButtons
[04:39] <brian98> krdc
[04:39] <sethk> n1xt3r, I'd wipe out everything you can and rebuild.  it really sounds like a build issue.  I was looking; you can get that illegal instruction situation by linking against one library (shared) and running against another.
[04:39] <jUggERNAUt1980> dr_willis :)  high 5:  anyone?anyone?
[04:39] <brian98> which has yet to crash x
[04:39] <Tomcat_> Dr_willis: I use mplayer plugin as well, like jUggERNAUt1980... works really well. :)
[04:40] <sethk> n1xt3r, unfortunately linux people are careless with the library versions and so this can happen.
[04:40] <viator_> wyzard
[04:40] <m0> how should I complektely remove Firefox?
[04:40] <baconbacon> m0, "rm ~/.mozilla/plugins/*flashplayer*"
[04:40] <m0> is there a way to delete all the dependency?
[04:40] <Chris9> lan games anyone?
[04:40] <brian98> But after my vista look last night I will be sticking with ubuntu and doing my best to start to convert some of my mature customer base ;)
[04:40] <simtower> does anyone know the way to change ubuntu to focus on mouseover (instead of focus on click?)
[04:40] <Wyzard> viator_: yes?
[04:40] <viator_> got it working
[04:40] <viator_> the network monitor
[04:40] <Wyzard> cool...  how?
[04:40] <Wyzard> manager  :-P
[04:40] <viator_> had to comment out everything
[04:41] <Wyzard> ok
[04:41] <viator_> in etc/network interfaces
[04:41] <brian98> but in fairness I'm an old redhat 7.1 man so I want to check out fedora
[04:41] <Tomcat_> brian98: And then there's the fact that xchat-gnome can't log conversations and doesn't work with umlauts in channels on some servers, but regular xchat doesn't have so many great features... I'm still waiting for that to get fixed. :] 
[04:41] <viator_> except
[04:41] <brian98> anyone any opinions!!?
[04:41] <viator_> loopback
[04:41] <Wyzard> I'd wondered about that...  it works that way in Debian but I thought it was different in Ubuntu
[04:41] <brian98> Tomcat_ Hopefullly in edgy I guess?
[04:41] <Tomcat_> simtower: Prefs => Windows
[04:41] <m0> baconbacon: that worked now... Now I can access flash pages.
[04:41] <m0> baconbacon: but noww the yellow bar shows on the top of the page
[04:41] <viator_> that other dude could have done that
[04:41] <Tomcat_> brian98: Haven't tried so far... but I just read there's new code in SVN that I'll try out.
[04:41] <baconbacon> ok m0
[04:41] <viator_> i suppose
[04:42] <m0> baconbacon: what should I do to install flash... correctly
[04:42] <lmosher> Is there a way to copy the gnome panel settings? i.e. so I can have my laptop set up like my desktop? :)
[04:42] <Dr_willis> Tomcat_,  Hmm.. i just get a lot of loading/connectinmg to messages in the video box now..
[04:42] <simtower> Tomcat_, thanks a bunch =D
[04:42] <m0> isntall the flashnonfree ?
[04:42] <baconbacon> m0, just let me see the correct package
[04:42] <Tidus> jUggERNAUt1980: rofl you wont believe this...
[04:42] <viator_> hey this supports wpa?
[04:42] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: Hey, if you're still around, viator_ found out how to get NetworkManager working on his system...  might be worth a try on yours
[04:42] <m0> baconbacon: ok
[04:42] <Tomcat_> Dr_willis: Same for me, but after some time it works.
[04:42] <Dr_willis> Ok..   :) its buffering a lot eh?
[04:42] <m0> baconbacon: flashplugin-nonfree
[04:43] <brian98> tomcat_ you checked out nomachine.com : best app I've installed so far!
[04:43] <Tidus> jUggERNAUt1980: i restarted the laptop and plugged the card in... and it worked >.>
[04:43] <baconbacon> m0, yes that's what i have and i can go to youtube and such
[04:43] <Wyzard> viator_: What seems strange to me is that it doesn't ignore your wired interface even though that's in the interfaces file
[04:43] <m0> baconbacon: okay i finsihed apt-get
[04:43] <m0> what should I do now?
[04:43] <baconbacon> restart ff
[04:43] <Tomcat_> Dr_willis: Can't connect now as well... probably overloaded or something. :\
[04:43] <m0> yes
[04:43] <viator_> yeah it sees my wired
[04:43] <baconbacon> it should work now
[04:43] <viator_> and wireless
[04:43] <m0> baconbacon: but that yellwo bar still appears
[04:44] <Dr_willis> Tomcat_,  Argh! the Humanity!
[04:44] <viator_> wyzard this supports wpa?
[04:44] <baconbacon> m0, are you sure you restarted firefox...
[04:44] <Wyzard> viator_: The Debian version completely ignores any interface that's defined in the interfaces file, but I thought that change was made after dapper was frozen for release
[04:44] <baconbacon> try "killall firefox-bin"
[04:44] <m0> i closed firefox and restarted it
[04:44] <Wyzard> viator_: and WPA2 as well, yes
[04:44] <Dr_willis> Oh well.. watch videos tomorrow i guess
[04:44] <viator_> nice
[04:45] <m0>  killall firefox-bin
[04:45] <m0> firefox-bin: no process killed
[04:45] <baconbacon> ok
[04:45] <Tomcat_> brian98: Yeah nomachine is pretty good... but I didn't really have time to check it out completely, and I don't need VNC much anyway.
[04:45] <viator_> no more wep :)
[04:45] <Wyzard> viator_: though it depends on how well your wireless driver supports it...  I had issues with ipw2200 until I upgraded to kernel 2.6.17
[04:45] <brian98> it's vnc on steroids :)))))))0
[04:45] <brian98> btw, that was X hanging again :(
[04:45] <baconbacon> and flash still doesn't work? are you sure it's not shockwave?
[04:45] <m0> oh
[04:45] <m0> hmm
[04:46] <m0> ello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player. Click here to get the latest flash player.
[04:46] <m0> thats what youtube says..
[04:46] <m0> my flash on my website doens't work either
[04:46] <viator_> youtube ned flash 9  i thought?
[04:46] <Tomcat_> viator_: Nope.
[04:46] <m0> i did flashplugin-nonfree
[04:46] <viator_> i just hacked moilla to say i had flash9
[04:46] <viator_> anyway
[04:47] <Tomcat_> m0: Try "about:plugins" as URL and check for flash plugin.
[04:47] <DrBanzai> Anybody here ever used the cluster feature of dvd::rip??
[04:47] <Wyzard> For "full" functionality maybe, but it seems to work fine for me with flashplugin-nonfree
[04:47] <baconbacon> m0, go to "about:plugins" and check for shockwave of flash
[04:47] <m0> no plugins installed
[04:47] <m0> baconbacon: thats what it says
[04:47] <m0> m0@m0-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:48] <m0> thats what I did to install flash
[04:48] <baconbacon> that's weird... you should have flash
[04:48] <tjb891> are any of you having a problem with the update to flash
[04:48] <m0> i know: )
[04:48] <hondje> try apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-nonfree
[04:48] <brian98> tomcat_ I just got a new drive, whats the best way to move over to it? Ghost? Also , whats the kde install again? and what happens when you install kde do you get an option at boot which manager you want to use
[04:48] <viator_> do apt-cache policy flashplugun-nonfree
[04:48] <brian98> ?
[04:48] <Dr_willis> Ok.. now why on this new install a -->  sudo aptitude  install samba    show about 100 packages it wants to remove?
[04:49] <Dr_willis>  packages upgraded, 13 newly installed, 304 to remove and 5 not upgraded
[04:49] <Dr_willis> 304 to remove.. :P
[04:49] <viator_> 304 lol
[04:49] <Tomcat_> brian98: I find LiveCD + tar the best way to move... if you have Windows, yeah Ghost is probably better.
[04:49] <viator_> sounds like when i was running libranet
[04:49] <viator_> with multiple repos
[04:49] <viator_> and pinning
[04:49] <Tomcat_> brian98: KDE is "kubuntu-desktop" package... and you get to choose in the login manager, not at boot.
[04:49] <brian98> cool!
[04:49] <brian98> also one other q
[04:49] <Dr_willis> including 'zoo' and uby ruby1.8 sane-utils   scim-qtimm speedcrunch    and  adept akregator amarok amarok-xine
[04:49] <Wyzard> Dr_willis: Name one of those other packages on the install command line too, to tell it that both must be installed together, and it'll tell you why it can't meet those criteria
[04:50] <m0> hmm still no plugins :s
[04:50] <brian98> the new drive I got is 750GB sata, how do I resive partitions?
[04:50] <Wyzard> i.e. sudo aptitude install samba zoo
[04:50] <babo> Can anyone help me figure out an stunnel issue ?
[04:50] <babo> babo@eire:/etc/stunnel$ stunnel -p stunnel.pem -d 80 -r google.com
[04:50] <Tomcat_> brian98: Easiest is to use gparted or qparted... or parted if you're on the command line.
[04:50] <babo> 2006.09.24 11:48:25 LOG3[31294:3083454144] : Error resolving '127.0.0.1': servname is not supported for ai_socktype (EAI_SERVICE)
[04:50] <ChrisWhite> hmm.. I've always used apt-get
[04:50] <Dr_willis> Wyzard,  it just reduces the # to remove heh..
[04:50] <ChrisWhite> what's aptitude got?
[04:51] <ChrisWhite> !aptitude
[04:51] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[04:51] <Dr_willis> ckages upgraded, 13 newly installed, 303 to remove
[04:51] <Wyzard> Or, use aptitude's interactive UI to browse through the changes it's going to make...  highlight a package and it shows you what used to depend on it that's being removed as well, so you can trace it back to the root of the problem
[04:51] <babo> Cannot resolve 'google.com' - delaying DNS lookup
[04:51] <m0> http://paste.uni.cc/10336  Thats what i did to install flash
[04:51] <brian98> tomcat_ Your a gent, I presume you use tomcat for servlets or is that just your nick?
[04:51] <ChrisWhite> I see
[04:51] <m0> Why doesn't plugins work
[04:51] <Dr_willis> heh - im thinking hteres some gnome-desktop breakage. or somthing
[04:51] <Tomcat_> I gotta go... it's 4:50 here...
[04:52] <Tomcat_> brian98: Nah, the nick comes from the airplane... when I took the nick in 1993/4, Tomcat app server and Java wasn't even available. :)
[04:52] <Dr_willis> if i just 'sudo apt-get install samba' i get no issues.
[04:52] <Wyzard> Or maybe aptitude somehow has everything marked as having been installed automatically to satisfy dependencies
[04:52] <baconbacon> m0, i'm sorry, i'm out of ideas
[04:52] <Dr_willis> So is it best to use apt-get..  i only recently started trying to use aptitude instead of apt-get
[04:52] <Wyzard> No, it's best to use aptitude
[04:52] <m0> m0@m0-laptop:~/.mozilla/firefox$ ls
[04:52] <m0> 4qj4iyjq.default  pluginreg.dat  profiles.ini
[04:52] <m0> I only see those
[04:52] <Wyzard> Using apt-get because of this is just sticking your head in the sand
[04:53] <viator_> hey wyzard does nm ask for the password everytime ?
[04:53] <Dr_willis> Heck - this is a clean install.. lets look at the sources.list
[04:53] <babo> stunnel -d 80 -r mysite.com:443 ... so when I point my webbrowser to mysite, it should open as https ... right ?
[04:53] <Wyzard> aptitude isn't prone to random fits of making changes it shouldn't -- there's some good reason for this
[04:54] <Wyzard> viator_: It adds your WEP/WPA passphrases to gnome-keyring, and gnome-keyring prompts for a password on subsequent logins, to unlock itself
[04:54] <ysy> hello
[04:54] <tjb891>  i read that installing flash from adobe's website instead of from th ubuntu repository works fine but you don't get upgrades, is it bad to do this?
[04:54] <viator_> yeah
[04:54] <Dr_willis> The following packages are unused and will be REMOVED  - Hmm.. Unused..
[04:54] <m0> oh how do you switch networks in irssi agian?
[04:54] <m0> alt+ ??
[04:54] <Wyzard> viator_: I guess if you had a blank password on your keyring it wouldn't prompt for it, but the current version of gnome-keyring unfortunately doesn't support changing your passphrase
[04:54] <Dr_willis> if i used apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, once instead of aptitude install kubuntu-desktop , would that explain it?
[04:55] <_mason> Gday
[04:55] <brian98> is it safe to install kde on top of ubuntu?
[04:55] <ladydoor> m0: ctrl-x
[04:55] <Wyzard> Dr_willis: Go through the list, find packages that you want to keep, and press '+' on them to mark them to stay installed
[04:55] <m0> ladydoor: thanks
[04:55] <ladydoor> m0: np
[04:55] <viator_> well you could change it if you remved it all together
[04:55] <viator_> and reinstalled the thing maybe
[04:55] <Dr_willis> yea..  i just tried aptitude install kubuntu-desktop again. and it says the package is broken.
[04:55] <MrNaz`> i want to install jedit but there is nothing in the repositories for it... can i install it from a .deb file?
[04:55] <Wyzard> Dr_willis: The libraries and such will automatically be unmarked for removal
[04:55] <tjb891> brian98:yes it just won't work that well
[04:56] <ladydoor> Dr_willis: actually, ":" is the button to cancel any changes on a package
[04:56] <baconbacon> m0, it doesn't work anymore for me now that i've sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree --reinstall
 but it will give me a look at kde?
[04:56] <tjb891> yes
[04:56] <brian98> thats alll I want really!
[04:56] <Wyzard> ladydoor: but that'd have to be combined with 'M' to mark it as manually installed...  '+' is quicker
[04:56] <tjb891> brian98:but using knoppix would be easier
[04:57] <ladydoor> Wyzard: ah.
[04:57] <brian98> argh
[04:57] <brian98> now you tells me!!
[04:57] <brian98>  :)
[04:57] <viator_> or the kubuntu live cd
[04:57] <brian98> true
[04:57] <viator_> or mepis
[04:57] <brian98> never thought of that
[04:57] <brian98> doh
[04:58] <F_roZeN> hi, someone knows if the lan card from a foxconn MB is only for windows?
[04:58] <chuckyp> well there are other packages to get kde
[04:58] <chuckyp> besides kubuntu-desktop
[04:59] <chuckyp> You could sudo apt-get install kde or kde-core
[04:59] <Wyzard> F_roZeN: What kind of network card is it?
[04:59] <supermiguel> does any one know how to unluck a pdf file?
[04:59] <Wyzard> F_roZeN: lspci will tell you the chipset
[04:59] <supermiguel> that is asking for a password
[04:59] <chuckyp> unluck?
[04:59] <_mason> ive got some problems installing azureus, I need the package libswt-gtk-3.2-java to be installed, but its not in apt-get so ive been downloading the .deb's manually  well libswt... needs libswt-gtk-3.2-jni  then that needs libatk1.0-0 and then that says it needs libc6 But libc6 is installed and is latest version
[04:59] <Wyzard> Type the password?  :-P
[04:59] <d3v1ant0n3> Any suggestions....erasing a cd-rw in K3B- gets about halfway thru, then dumps me to login menu...what the?
[04:59] <supermiguel> yea but i dont know which one is it
[04:59] <_mason> How do i install them
[04:59] <chuckyp> _mason, sudo apt-get install azureus
[04:59] <supermiguel> there is hacker or something to do that
[04:59] <F_roZeN> realtek something
[04:59] <viator_> there was this site where you put the info from lspci in and it tellss you if theres drivers
[05:00] <chuckyp> !azureus
[05:00] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[05:00] <Wyzard> superm1: Somewhere, yeah, but it's not part of Ubuntu
[05:00] <lmosher> Anyone here using a core duo processor (yonah)?
[05:00] <Wyzard> supermiguel: oops, ^^^
[05:00] <chuckyp> !tell _mason about azureus
[05:00] <F_roZeN> I have a Pentium D
[05:00] <viator_> nah the corduo is downstairs
[05:00] <baconbacon> m0, now I uninstall flashplugin-nonfree with synaptic, selecting "completely uninstall", and installed it from the firefox dialog, youtube works again
[05:00] <Wyzard> _mason: Sounds like you're trying to install the Debian version
[05:00] <lmosher> I'm not sure linux is properly detecing it as dual core. Is there a way to check?
[05:01] <_mason> chuckyp azureus is already installed and is the latest version, but IT needs libswt-gtk-3.2-java
[05:01] <_mason> then that needs x, etx
[05:01] <baconbacon> lmosher:  cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:01] <chuckyp> _mason, well sudo apt-get build-dep azureus
[05:01] <_mason> ok, ill try that
[05:01] <Wyzard> _mason: dpkg -s azureus
[05:01] <lmosher> baconbacon, ok what would tell me it's dual core? it gets the processor name correct...
[05:01] <Wyzard> _mason: What version does it show?
[05:01] <m0> hmm
[05:01] <m0> baconbacon:
[05:01] <m0> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[05:01] <chuckyp> _mason, that build-dep will install all of its dependencies
[05:01] <_mason> azureus is version 2.5.0.0-1
[05:01] <m0> is that the same as flashplugin-nonfree
[05:01] <jUggERNAUt1980> sheesh, worky tonight 80 miles away.  :(
[05:02] <baconbacon> lmosher: that would be mention of smp in features
[05:02] <Wyzard> _mason: You installed the Debian package of Azureus
[05:02] <viator_> flash is in the repos
[05:02] <chuckyp> holly s I need to go to bed gnight all
[05:02] <Wyzard> _mason: Remove that, and install the Ubuntu packaged version...  it's in universe
[05:02] <baconbacon> m0, i dont install it this way
[05:02] <lmosher> baconbacon, hmm smp, do I need to install a kernel or something to deal with that? I don't see it in the list :/
[05:02] <viator_> --purge remove it!
[05:02] <baconbacon> viator_: flash in the repos was broken for me after a --reinstall
[05:02] <_mason> Ahh, Well I was following the ubuntu wiki ? thats a trap for beginners
[05:03] <Wyzard> sounds like a bug in the wiki's directions, then
[05:03] <viator_> bacon its not broken
[05:03] <viator_> it does give an error though
[05:03] <viator_> but works fine
[05:04] <d3v1ant0n3> I had hella trouble installing flash on a reinstall
[05:04] <baconbacon> lmosher: i don't know. you could try the smp kernel which is in the repos
[05:04] <baconbacon> but don't uninstall the other
[05:04] <brian98> jeez, kde is windows
[05:04] <brian98> :)
[05:04] <lmosher> hm ok. Can anyone back that up? How do I set up my system to use smp?
[05:04] <jUggERNAUt1980> brian98, i know, right??!
[05:04] <F_roZeN> any 686 is SMP
[05:04] <Wyzard> F_roZeN: no
[05:05] <viator_> juggernaut you get the manager working
[05:05] <viator_> ?
[05:05] <MrNaz`> F_roZeN no... lmosher you need to get the SMP enabled kernel
[05:05] <jUggERNAUt1980> viator_  netmanager apparently doesn't recognize my wifi card.  i improvised another solution, tho.
[05:05] <Wyzard> Is that the -server one?
[05:05] <viator_> did you try commenting everything out except the loopback
[05:05] <baconbacon> i have Linux laptop-bacon 2.6.15-27-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT ... using linux-686
[05:05] <supermiguel> what kis the easiest way to make an ftp server
[05:05] <MrNaz`> lmosher apt-get install kernal-foo-smp
[05:05] <viator_> in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:06] <ChrisWhite> brian98: my windows never had direct ssh integration
[05:06] <viator_> EVERYTHING
[05:06] <F_roZeN> linux-image-2.6.15-27-686  - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.15 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP/UP
[05:06] <jUggERNAUt1980> viator_, nope.  i just installed wifi-radar.  works peachy fine with my wifi.
[05:06] <brian98> cygwin chriswhite!!
[05:06] <brian98> :)
[05:06] <lmosher> MrNaz`, ok cool, Will I need to do any further updates (i.e. download my nvidia driver) or does the smp thing simply enable smp in my current kernel?
[05:06] <Wyzard> F_roZeN: Oh, you meant any 686 kernel in Ubuntu, not any 686 processor
[05:06] <viator_> jugg cool just to let you know thats what ya need to do
[05:06] <F_roZeN> yeah
[05:06] <brian98> I seem to have a mix of gnome and kde now!
[05:06] <viator_> now i can use wpa
[05:07] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: It's worth a shot...  NM is much preferable over other stuff, if you can get it to work
[05:07] <ChrisWhite> brian98: what're you gonna do!
[05:07] <brian98> gnome panel at the top and kde at the botom!
[05:07] <baconbacon> lmosher my opinion is that you can install linux-686 to have a smp kernel
[05:07] <brian98> bottom
[05:07] <brian98> even
[05:07] <ChrisWhite> brian98: I had this weird mixture once, where twm and kde were mixed together
[05:07] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: and it could very well be that the problem I mentioned to you has been fixed (that was nearly two years ago, after all) and it's just this other thing that's preventing it from working
[05:07] <ChrisWhite> brian98: and kicker was floating around in it's own little twm widget
[05:07] <jUggERNAUt1980> viator_, thanks muchly, but it was pointed out to me that there is an issue with netmanager and athos 5212 wifi.
[05:07] <lmosher> baconbacon, if I do that will I have to re-intall my nvidia drivers.. etc?
[05:08] <brian98> kde don't look as bad as people say, think I'll play for a while
[05:08] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: *Two years ago* there was an issue with the Atheros 5212...  you don't know for sure that your current problem is the same bug that was talked about in that message
[05:08] <viator_> i was always a kde user
[05:08] <viator_> gnome has grown on me
[05:08] <ChrisWhite> I use kde, gnome, fluxbox, xfce
[05:08] <Wyzard> KDE always seemed to gaudy to me
[05:08] <ChrisWhite> just so it's nearly impossible to get me in a flamewar :p
[05:08] <jUggERNAUt1980> wyzard, i used netmanager with my other lappy having a broadcomm chipset.  it worked fine then, but wouldn't connect to anything less than 100% signal strength
[05:08] <viator_> since my wife insisted on ubuntu so has it :)
[05:09] <ChrisWhite> heck, at one time I used framebuffer everytime
[05:09] <baconbacon> lmosher: i think not
[05:09] <Wyzard> jUggERNAUt1980: That's your Broadcom chip or its driver...  NM just tells the card what to connect to, and has nothing to do with how well it deals with weak signals
[05:09] <viator_> jugg well i was @ 50% or less
[05:09] <ChrisWhite> graphical links, mplayer with sdl out
[05:09] <viator_> and it worked fine
[05:09] <ChrisWhite> it was fast as heck, but really bland :P
[05:09] <jUggERNAUt1980> Wyzard, i'll keep plugging away at that issue, but i grabbed another solution, however temporary it is.  i really want to use networkmanager, tho.
[05:10] <jUggERNAUt1980> i have ti work in a little bit, so won't be able to hack at it anymore tonight.
[05:10] <mollatov> (very) new user of Linux here; quick question: No matter how slow I burn the Ubuntu Live CD ISO, it behaves unbelievably slow (it will take minutes between clicking a menu and its popping down). I've not had this issue with other Live CDs (SLAX, Knoppix). My question is, is there something wrong with my ISO? Should I re-download it and try again?
[05:10] <jUggERNAUt1980> :P
[05:10] <ChrisWhite> my cd was kind of slow, but that was because my drive is kinda slow
[05:10] <Denstark> I have a question -- I've set up an apache server but no one but the local computer can get to it.. any ideas?
[05:10] <viator_> jug just sudo nano /etc/netowrk/interfaces
[05:10] <jUggERNAUt1980> ok i'll do that now viator_
[05:10] <feross> hey how can I turn off the annoying network applet thing in Gnome? I'd rather configure the network via a couple scipts, that applet thing takes forever.
[05:10] <viator_> and comment out all interfaces except lo
[05:10] <blanky> hey guys what command can i type in the terminal to tell me the version of ubuntu im running
[05:11] <CarlFK> the launcher icon for firefox has "command=firefox %u"  what is the %u for?
[05:11] <viator_> and bam it worked
[05:11] <ChrisWhite> CarlFK: the url
[05:11] <baconbacon> m0, if you're still there, i wen to youtube.com and clicked on the square on the right "click here to download plugin"
[05:11] <maxamillion> anyone else not able to boot on amd64 after the edgy 2.6.17-9 kernel upgrade?
[05:11] <CarlFK> ChrisWhite: what URL?
[05:11] <ChrisWhite> CarlFK: whatever url you pass it
[05:11] <brian98> so how do I get  windows at login asking me which enviroment I want to boot into (kde or gnome?)
[05:12] <m0> baconbacon:  yea? what happedn?
[05:12] <brian98> or is impossible?
[05:12] <CarlFK> ChrisWhite: it is an icon that I click on.  how would I pass a URL?
[05:12] <m0> i am getting this:
[05:12] <ChrisWhite> CarlFK: you can drag and drop a URL on the launcher, so the %u is there to pass in theurl
[05:12] <lmosher> once I do get dual core working I'll be able to see it in both /proc/acpi/cpu and in 'top' I should be two, yes?
[05:12] <excitatory> blanky: chances are you're running dapper
[05:12] <CarlFK> ahh
[05:12] <m0> m0@m0-laptop:~$ sudo update-flashplugin
[05:12] <m0> automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes
[05:12] <baconbacon> m0, i followed the wizard and flash worked after
[05:12] <feross> mollatov: I think there's a switch to load everything into memory, that should run faster.
[05:12] <blanky> excitatory, I'm not sure, becuase I did a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and im hoping it didn't upgrade to edgy eft
[05:12] <brian98> or is impossible?
[05:12] <viator_> oh and i rebooted
[05:13] <brian98> so how do I get  windows at login asking me which enviroment I want to boot into (kde or gnome?)
[05:13] <m0> what would be wrong with mine then
[05:13] <excitatory> blanky: unless you put edgy in your apt sources file ( /etc/apt/sources.list ) it wouldn't have upgraded to edgy.
[05:14] <blanky> excitatory, oh right
[05:14] <baconbacon> brian98, look in options -> session
[05:14] <m0> how do we debug linux :(
[05:14] <brian98> sorry :S
[05:14] <babo> So ubuntu has the whisker lib, but doesn't have the whisker.pl script ?
[05:14] <excitatory> say no to sorry :D
[05:14] <siriusnova> man this really sucks, someone REALLY needs to fix the darn ati radeon bug in X.org, it makes ATI card useless
[05:14] <Wyzard> m0: That was a problem in dapper a few weeks ago, but it was fixed by recent updates
[05:14] <siriusnova> X locks up every 10 minutes with the bug
[05:14] <excitatory> siriusnova: what bug?
[05:15] <graveson> has anyone seen this error : mtrr: type mismatch for d0000000,8000000 old and can help me troubleshoot it
[05:15] <siriusnova> excitatory - the bug that causes any ati radeon laptop card to completely lock up the system randomly
[05:15] <Wyzard> brian98: The GDM login screen has a menu for choosing which session you want to run
[05:15] <ChrisWhite> huh...
[05:15] <excitatory> graveson: err.. what were you doing when this error occured?  where do you see it? etc, etc.  (your question is rather vague)
[05:16] <ChrisWhite> allright, my system kinda froze
[05:16] <m0> baconbacon: talking to firefox dev to fix this prob
 how do I add kde to it
[05:16] <watercooler> anyone use tor?
[05:16] <brian98> it's not there right now
[05:16] <ChrisWhite> blanky: /etc/lsb-release
[05:17] <excitatory> siriusnova: well, first are you sure X or the ati driver is in fact locking up your system?  and second, are you using the ati.com driver or something else?
[05:17] <Wyzard> m0: Your problem with update-flashplugin shouldn't have anything to do with Firefox...  it's because Adobe issued an updated version of Flash 7 and the package needed to be updated accordingly
[05:17] <blanky> thanks ChrisWhite
[05:17] <baconbacon> m0, now im REALLY out of ideas, ask in #firefox maybe they can help
[05:17] <graveson> excitatory: not been doing anything just trying to get my ATI card working. the Mesa driver works find.as soon as i switch to fglrx i have this errors
[05:17] <excitatory> siriusnova: i've been using radeons w/ linux for a long time now w/out any trouble.
[05:17] <watercooler> talk about to many people
[05:17] <slime> for grub, if i set the TIME to zero, basically the boot selection is going to be so fast that i will not be able to select my OS, is there some sort of control key i can press to select my OS?
[05:17] <Wyzard> m0: but the current version in dapper (7.0.68~ubuntu2~dapper1) should work
[05:17] <siriusnova> excitatory - its a known bug, there is a 30 post long discussion on launchpad, im using the X.org "ATI" driver as the ATI driver itself doesnt support my Thinkpad's ATI Radeon 7500 Mobility
[05:18] <Meglo> My Synaptics touchpad wasn't working. But I had it disabled in my windows partition - somehow when I turned it on in windows it started working in linux. How is this possible?
[05:18] <Meglo> :?
[05:18] <m0> Wyzard: hmm it might be some conflict between AIGLX and Firefox
[05:18] <excitatory> siriusnova: ah, ok.  right on.
[05:18] <brian98> must sleep gf not happy
[05:18] <CarlFK> ChrisWhite: how come when I put firefox %u in the "Startup Programs" list (because I didn't know what the %u was for) it opened with http://www.arizona.edu ?
[05:19] <brian98> later
[05:19] <brian98> and thanks for all!!!
[05:19] <viator_> cause linux has more drivers
[05:19] <Wyzard> m0: None of that should have anything to do with update-flashplugin
[05:19] <m0> Wyzard: i ran it within consol and got this: http://paste.uni.cc/10340
[05:19] <Schalken> whats the command to reconfigure X?
[05:19] <siriusnova> excitatory - its really annoying too as running X will cause random hangs, like complete system lockups. I literally have to hit the power button to get my system to work again
[05:19] <jijiu> hi.. i have a kinda noob question.. i'm trying to compile something and it keeps complaining about -lpthreads.. i couldn't find a glibc-devel or something like it on my apt.. what should i install in order to get it going? Oo
[05:19] <viator_> andcorrectly installed the proper one
[05:19] <m0> Wyzard: my update-flashplugin receives ayutomatic installion failed due to network problems
[05:19] <tonyyarusso> siriusnova: I noticed that they just released a new version of the driver; might be worth trying.
[05:20] <Wyzard> m0: All update-flashplugin does is download a file from Adobe, check its md5sum, unpack it, check the md5sums of the files inside, and copy the files to certain places on the system
[05:20] <m0> oh okay
[05:20] <Wyzard> m0: The "network problems or upstream changes" error is because Adobe issued an updated version and the md5sums are different
[05:20] <m0> so not the issue :)
[05:20] <m0> ah...
[05:20] <m0> But i downmlaoded from adobe :)
[05:20] <Schalken> sorry i'll ask again, whats the command to reconfigure X?
[05:20] <m0> Wyzard: any idea about http://paste.uni.cc/10340
[05:21] <Wyzard> m0: Yes, the latest version from Adobe is not the version that your flashplugin-nonfree package is expecting
[05:21] <siriusnova> tonyyarusso - the bug is in the X.org "ati" driver
[05:21] <siriusnova> not ATI's driver itself
[05:21] <brosnan> CarlFK: firefox is doing a google I'm feeling lucky search
[05:21] <m0> Wyzard: what should I do then..
[05:21] <Wyzard> m0: I ran into that a few weeks ago, but flashplugin-nonfree was updated recently to address it...  have you not installed updates lately?
[05:21] <m0> i did
[05:21] <m0> hmm
[05:21] <CarlFK> brosnan: are you kidding?
[05:21] <m0> how do I reinstall updates
[05:21] <Xenguy> Schalken: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:21] <viator_> m0 apt-get update
[05:21] <tonyyarusso> siriusnova: I meant if you're using it instead of the ATI one..maybe I misread.  Anyway.
[05:21] <Xenguy> Schalken: I think
[05:21] <viator_> then apt-get upgrade
[05:22] <Schalken> Xenguy: thats the one, thanks!
[05:22] <slime> how do i use command line for apt-get searching for a package then apt-get install it?
[05:22] <Wyzard> m0: I have no idea about your Firefox bug, but the update-flashplugin problem should be resolved just by upgrading to version 7.0.68~ubuntu2~dapper1 of the package
[05:22] <viator_> if you have a problem do this
[05:22] <Xenguy> Schalken: yw
[05:22] <Wyzard> m0: unless Adobe just released *another* update today, maybe
[05:22] <viator_> apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree
[05:22] <viator_> then reinstall
[05:22] <m0>                       to version 7.0.68~ubuntu2~dapper1 of the package
[05:22] <brosnan> CarlFK: no, something is getting added to firefox at startup and it is doing a i'm feeling lucky search
[05:22] <F_roZeN> what is the diference with aptitude
[05:22] <jijiu> hi.. i have a kinda noob question.. i'm trying to compile something and it keeps complaining about -lpthreads.. i couldn't find a glibc-devel or something like it on my apt.. what should i install in order to get it going? Oo
[05:23] <CarlFK> brosnan: wild.  ok, Ill take that %u out.  thanks
[05:23] <Xenguy> slime: use 'apt-cache search' for keyword searches; then 'apt-get install' to install
[05:23] <m0> Wyzard: how do I upgrade to that dapper?
[05:23] <Wyzard> F_roZeN: You can interactively browse through packages, and it can keep track of which packages were installed because you wanted them, vs. which packages were installed just to satisfy dependencies
[05:23] <F_roZeN> ok
[05:24] <Wyzard> m0: Run the update manager from the Administration menu
[05:24] <meowmeow> is there a way for me to unzip splitted rar archives in linux (.r001, r002
[05:24] <luckyone> I cannot for the life of me properly convert WMA to mp3
[05:24] <m0> Wyzard: nothing updates
[05:24] <Wyzard> m0: You should've gotten a little notification bubble telling you that updates were available, actually
[05:24] <m0> I already did that this morning
[05:24] <slime> Xenguy: thx
[05:24] <luckyone> I just lost an album trying to...
[05:24] <Xenguy> meowmeow: unrar e file.rar
[05:24] <Xenguy> slime: yw
[05:24] <m0> i am running firefox from the console: firefox --synch
[05:24] <Wyzard> m0: Run "dpkg -s flashplugin-nonfree" from a shell and see what version it says it is
[05:24] <meowmeow> thanks
[05:25] <m0> hmm
[05:25] <Wyzard> m0: Forget Firefox for the moment...  update-flashplugin is a simple shell script that should work even if Firefox isn't installed at all
[05:25] <supermiguel> !ubuntu es
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <supermiguel> !ubuntu-es
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <m0> Wyzard: It says conflicts flashplugin <<6
[05:25] <Xenguy> !es
[05:25] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:25] <supermiguel> !ubuntues
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntues - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <Wyzard> m0: Look at the version, not the dependencies
[05:25] <m0> Wyzard: Version:  7.0.63.3ubuntu3
[05:26] <supermiguel> there jis nothing to do :S
[05:26] <Wyzard> m0: ...did you disable your update repositories in your sources.list or something?
[05:26] <viator_> he has problems causehe installed the one from the repos
[05:26] <Anderson> when I upgraded to the newest kernel, 2.6.15-26, my BCM43xx drivers stopped working. Is this a common problem?
[05:26] <viator_> and installed the one from adobe
[05:26] <m0> Wyzard: I don't know! :s
[05:26] <brosnan> m0: try https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=304370#c5
[05:26] <MNGRVE> !chmod
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chmod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <jijiu> hi, i'm running a ubuntu 6.06 and trying to compile a program.. and it says there is no -lpthread.. i can't find the packet for -lpthread.. anyone knows wich one is that?
[05:26] <m0> Wyzard: how do I check
[05:27] <Wyzard> m0: Run Synaptic
[05:27] <m0> k
[05:27] <Xenguy> Anderson: sometimes 'restricted-modules' need to be installed (don't know if this is the case for you, just something to check)
[05:27] <Wyzard> m0: On the Settings menu, pick Repositories
[05:27] <m0> yes
[05:27] <Wyzard> m0: Make sure the "Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Updates" sources are checked
[05:27] <Anderson> Xenguy, I removed and loaded the module, is that what you are talking about?
[05:27] <m0> Wyzard: already checked
[05:28] <m0> not the non-freethou
[05:28] <Xenguy> Anderson: I don't think so...
[05:28] <m0> Wyzard: Under sources I see Officially supported, rEstrcited copyright
[05:28] <simtower> anyone know why apt-get update would be getting connection failed from all the servers even though i can ping them just fine?
[05:28] <Xenguy> Anderson: for example, when I upgrade kernels, sometimes my X gets broken because I run Nvidia...
[05:28] <Wyzard> m0: Check the non-free one...  that's where Flash lives
[05:28] <Anderson> Xenguy, Matter of fact, since I upgraded, none of my network devices seem to be working.
[05:29] <Anderson> Xenguy, Does the manufacture release drivers for linux?
[05:29] <Xenguy> Anderson: so I need to install the 'restricted-modules' package that corresponds to my kernel version
[05:29] <Wyzard> m0: Check everything in the list, in fact
[05:29] <blanky> hey guys if I'm ssh'ed into someone, and I'm in a screen session, how can I get their attention and get them to screen in?
[05:29] <MNGRVE> hey, uh, I had to make a few changes to my partitions, namely change two from ntfs to fat32, and i had to edit my fstab. They're mounting fine, but I'd like to change the labels on the links to them on my desktop. How would i go about that?
[05:29] <blanky> for example how can I send a message ?
[05:29] <m0> Wyzard: the binary is already checked non-free
[05:29] <m0> the sources is not
[05:29] <m0> cause I don't see any
[05:29] <lmosher> Not sure who I was talking with earlier regaridng getting dual cores to work, but installing the linux-image-kernelver-686 works, but in order to get nvidia working you must have linux-image-686-smp installed as well. So in the end you need both.
[05:29] <Anderson> Xenguy, I'll check for that. apt-cache search bcm ??
[05:29] <ArrenLex> Xenguy: it would be easier to just enter the command apt-get install restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[05:29] <Wyzard> m0: The sources don't matter unless you're a developer, but check all the binary ones
[05:29] <lmosher> Now, does anyone know of a panel applet that will let me see both CPU activies?
[05:29] <blanky> hey guys how can I send a system wide message
[05:29] <m0> already did
[05:29] <m0> now
[05:29] <blanky> through the terminal
[05:29] <m0> I Am relading
[05:30] <Wyzard> m0: Then close that window and hit reload
[05:30] <blanky> so if I'm in one terminal, how can I make it send a message to another one
[05:30] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: I believe you are correct - please advise Anderson
[05:30] <Wyzard> m0: Then upgrade again -- either "mark all changes" and apply in synaptic, or quit synaptic and run the update manager again
[05:30] <leeyee> Hi guys, that's odd it has no sounds on gaim 2.0.0, I've just upgraded it from gaim1.2 via apt-get, any idea?
[05:30] <Xenguy> Anderson: try what ArrenLex said
[05:30] <m0> Wyzard: I reloaded, and upgraded nothing to apply
[05:30] <MNGRVE> I had to make a few changes to my partitions, namely change two from ntfs to fat32, and i had to edit my fstab. They're mounting fine, but I'd like to change the labels on the links to them on my desktop. How would i go about that?
[05:30] <Anderson> Xenguy, Got it, thanks.
[05:30] <Wyzard> m0: You are running dapper, right?
[05:31] <m0> how do I know
[05:31] <Xenguy> Anderson: let us know if it works
[05:31] <m0> uname -a?
[05:31] <Wyzard> m0: "About Ubuntu" on the System menu
[05:32] <leeyee> Hi guys, that's odd it has no sounds on gaim 2.0.0, I've just upgraded it from gaim1.2 via apt-get, any idea?
[05:32] <m0> lol
[05:32] <Wyzard> m0: If you see "Thank you for your interest in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS -- the Dapper Drake" then you're running dapper
[05:32] <m0> Wyzard:  Could not launch menu item
[05:32] <Wyzard> m0: If not, then you're not
[05:32] <Wyzard> umm
[05:32] <m0> Wyzard: Details: Failed to execute child processes "yelp" no such file or directory
[05:32] <m0> Hmm Don'ty know what happened
[05:33] <Wyzard> OK, go back to that list of sources with checkboxes in synaptic
[05:33] <MNGRVE> what is the octal chmod code to give everyone permissions?
[05:33] <ArrenLex> 777
[05:33] <Wyzard> Are the sources titled "Ubuntu 6.06 LTS", or something else?
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> blanky: This is a really terrible way of doing it I'm sure, but a "fake" shutdown message would work.  (one of the switches for shutdown only simulates, with no actual shutdown)
[05:33] <MNGRVE> thanks
[05:33] <blanky> tonyyarusso, ah okay cool how can I do that
[05:33] <m0> yes they are Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[05:33] <Anderson> How do I view which kernel version are availible on my system?
[05:34] <ArrenLex> Anderson: uname -r
[05:34] <m0> Anderson: uname -a
[05:34] <Anderson> ArrenLex, I have multiple versions availible in my grub boot menu.
[05:34] <brosnan> Wyzard / m0 your issue is reported in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=304370#c5
[05:34] <tonyyarusso> blanky: shutdown -k now Your message here  (details in 'man shutdown')
[05:34] <Anderson> ArrenLex, Don't know how to get rid of them, glad I didn't think time.
[05:34] <ArrenLex> Anderson: yes, but you're not currently running them. Are you attempting to see all kernels INSTALLED?
[05:34] <blanky> tonyyarusso, ah thanks! and that one wont really shutdown right?
[05:34] <m0> brosnan: hmm
[05:35] <ArrenLex> Oh.
[05:35] <blanky> just send the message
[05:35] <Anderson> ArrenLex, This**
[05:35] <Anderson> ArrenLex, yea
[05:35] <m0> brosnan: how do I export XLIB_SKIP
[05:35] <m0> i don't know what kind of language that is
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> blanky: Correct.
[05:35] <ArrenLex> Anderson: if you're running synaptic, why don't you just search for 'linux-image' and uninstall the ones you're not using?
[05:35] <chronoAZ> how can i check if i can receive mail using a courier-imap mail server?
[05:35] <blanky> thanks tonyyarusso !
[05:35] <simtower> hi, i have a problem with ubuntu -- apt-get update always gets "connection failed" errors even though i can connect to the mirrors just fine
[05:35] <rmd_> i need to uninstall ubuntu, but i need to use my dell restoration partition.  however, since grub is my bootloader, i cannot access the restoration software via ctrl+f11.  how can i access the dellrestore parition and start from scratch?
[05:36] <Anderson> ArrenLex, I like to learn the command line, it will help in the event I have some remote administration to do.
[05:36] <m0> beh
[05:36] <m0> I am going to uninstall XORG
[05:36] <m0> all it does is problems
[05:36] <tonyyarusso> rmd_: You'll need to add a grub entry for it.
[05:36] <Xenguy> Anderson: dpkg -l *linux-image*     ?
[05:36] <GhostFreeman> enjoy your textual interface
[05:37] <Wyzard> brosnan: That shouldn't prevent update-flashplutin from working, though
[05:37] <rmd_> tonyarusso, where can i read up on that?  i'm on the grub website but it is confusing as 'ell
[05:37] <ArrenLex> Anderson: all I can come up with is this. It's a hacky way, but it works.
[05:37] <Anderson> Xenguy, I was just thinking that.
[05:37] <ArrenLex> WARNING: it will remove all kernels but the currently running one, without prompting!
[05:37] <ArrenLex> dpkg --list  | awk '{ print $2 }' | grep linux-image | grep -v `uname -r` | xargs apt-get remove --purge -y
[05:37] <Wyzard> m0: How about just disabling Composite or AIGLX or whatever it is you're using, instead of removing all of X
[05:37] <m0> how do I disable it?
[05:37] <m0> its n ot working
[05:38] <Xenguy> Anderson: I would urge caution at this point =)
[05:38] <Wyzard> m0: What did you do to enable it?
[05:38] <blanky> hey ChrisWhite what was the solution you gave me
[05:38] <tonyyarusso> rmd_: Good question.  Honestly, the place I'd start though is just the comments in the menu.lst file, since they're pretty good.  Then maybe go back to the grub site after that.
[05:38] <blanky> to displaying the ubuntu version
[05:38] <blanky> please?
[05:38] <blanky> i forgot
[05:38] <m0> AIGLX/compiz has a major bug now hehe
[05:38] <blanky> /etc/rls-version or something/?
[05:38] <Anderson> Xenguy, I'm thinkin the same, I found the version. That scripting stuff looks fancy.
[05:38] <rmd_> tonyyarusso: thanks loads for the help.
[05:38] <ArrenLex> Xenguy: if you don't understand parts, I can explain it in private message if you want.
[05:38] <Xenguy> Anderson: it's great scripting, but it is very easy to make a mistake with one-offs I've found :-)
[05:39] <Wyzard> m0: AIGLX and Compiz aren't in Dapper, so you must have done something to install them yourself...  whatever it was, you need to remove it
[05:39] <Tidus> yay!
[05:39] <m0> i will try
[05:39] <tonyyarusso> rmd_: (Note: on some kinds of machines there's something funny where the partition table will have the wrong type set for your recovery, so if after you make the grub entry it fails to boot right, you might need to use fdisk to change it.  Weird, but sometimes true.)
[05:39] <Anderson> Xenguy, One-offs???
[05:39] <blanky> nevermind ChrisWhite got it
[05:39] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: see above.  Respect (I'm just cautious from experience :-)
[05:39] <blanky> hey guys
[05:39] <blanky> when i do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop it says
[05:39] <Tidus> linksys WPC54G V.2 working on linux WITHOUT using ndiswrapper
[05:39] <Wyzard> m0: But none of that has anything to do with why your system isn't seeing the current version of the flashplugin-nonfree package
[05:39] <rmd_> tonyyarusso: thanks again
[05:39] <blanky> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:39] <blanky>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: amarok but it is not going to be installed
[05:39] <blanky> E: Broken packages
[05:39] <ArrenLex> Xenguy: what do you want me to see above?
[05:39] <VR_> hey guys, is it possible to quickly download multiple files at once, with wget? like, file1.txt file2.txt file3.txt, all at the same time/
[05:39] <blanky> what does that mean? sorry i didn't know it was that long
[05:40] <m0> Wyzard: I really don't know what to do :s
[05:40] <VR_> *?
[05:40] <seshomaru123> hello, can anyone help me configure my ftp (proftpd) server on Ubuntu ? (I'm trying to network install FC5, so I put the FC5 iso image in Ubuntu and I want to use it as an FTP server , I installed proftpd but cant seem to get it running)
[05:40] <Xenguy> Anderson: I just mean that the greater the complexity of anything, the greater the probability of bugs -- it only stands to reason
[05:40] <Anderson> Xenguy, agreed.
[05:40] <TestDrivenBug> Hi, I have a application question. What cross compatible (Windows/ Linux) application is available for webcam + chat?
[05:40] <Wyzard> m0: I just checked what repository it's in...  "Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Backports"
[05:40] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: comment re: caution; or, don't worry about it :-)
[05:40] <Wyzard> m0: Make absolutely certain you have the backports repository enabled, and then you can update Flash
[05:40] <ArrenLex> Oh. That explains it. "(21:39:33) ArrenLex: Xenguy: if you don't understand parts, I can explain it in private message if you want." Xenguy -> Anderson
[05:40] <ArrenLex> I'm sure Xenguy understands it all. xD
[05:41] <blanky> where the heck can i get libvisual-0.4-0
[05:41] <rmd_> where is this menu.lst file?  beagle can't find it.
[05:41] <ArrenLex> rmd: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:41] <Tidus> rmd_: sometimes menu.lst is grub.conf
[05:41] <Anderson> ArrenLex, I appreciate the help, I think I'll stick to non-scripting for now. I'm still recovering from a Windows addiction. My therapist says I'm doing great =] 
[05:41] <rmd_> thanks again to both
[05:41] <m0> k Wyzard
[05:41] <m0> Wyzard: I enabled the non-free in backport
[05:42] <poningru> Anderson: heh
[05:42] <m0> hmm now I am applying
[05:42] <Anderson> ArrenLex, I don't see that.
[05:42] <m0> Wyzard: :)
[05:42] <seshomaru123> when I run proftp start I get a fatal: Socket operation on non-socket error , what can I do?
[05:42] <ArrenLex> Anderson, what don't you see??
[05:42] <ArrenLex> -?
[05:42] <tonyyarusso> Tidus: Really?  I've never seen that.  In a grub directory, sure (which beagle wouldn't be indexing).
[05:42] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: FWIW it looks like it would work fine - the problem is that you only find out it has unintended consequences after it is too late -- common sense :-)
[05:43] <TestDrivenBug> any idea for a good webcam chat application that I can use on linux + windows?
[05:43] <simtower> hi, i have a problem with ubuntu -- apt-get update always gets "connection failed" errors even though i ping or browse to the mirrors just fine
[05:43] <Anderson> Arrenlex  Oh. That explains it. "(21:39:33) ArrenLex: Xenguy: if you don't understand parts, I can explain it in private message if you want." Xenguy -> Anderson
[05:43] <Wyzard> m0: I'd still recommend uninstalling your AIGLX stuff...  it's nice to try out as a tech preview, but there's a reason it's not in the stable release yet
[05:43] <ArrenLex> Xenguy, yes, that's why I warned him. (21:38:09) ArrenLex: WARNING: it will remove all kernels but the currently running one, without prompting!
[05:43] <m0> m0@m0-laptop:~$ sudo update-flashplugin
[05:43] <m0> Downloading...  done.
[05:43] <Tidus> tonyyarusso: grub will use either file
[05:43] <m0> Thanks Wyzard :)
[05:43] <poningru> simtower: in your /etc/apt/sources.list make sure the link is the right one
[05:43] <tonyyarusso> Tidus: Ah, okay.
[05:43] <Wyzard> TestDrivenBug: GnomeMeeting
[05:43] <poningru> ping the links in your sources.list
[05:43] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: stop stroking you ego - I saw your comment, and I urged caution for the same reason you did -- enuf said
[05:44] <ArrenLex> o_O
[05:44] <ArrenLex> I'm confused in this conversation.
[05:44] <poningru> guys coc
[05:44] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: indeed
[05:44] <simtower> poningru, i have tried it with 3 USA mirrors and they all fail
[05:44] <Anderson> && anderson
[05:44] <m0> Wyzard: sooner or later I will be a develloper on linux
[05:44] <m0> instead on windows
[05:44] <linlin> how do i start the ubuntu install from a command line? I prefer to not use the GUI installer, is the old one still available?
[05:44] <lupine_85> !alternate
[05:44] <ArrenLex> linlin: you need to download the alternate CD.
[05:44] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.
[05:45] <linlin> darn
[05:45] <TestDrivenBug> Wyzard, thats netmeeting counterpart right? Don't the involving parties have to pay for getting useraname?
[05:45] <Wyzard> alternate installer is needed if you want to install on LVM, too...  the GUI installer only supports installing to plain partitions
[05:45] <chronoAZ> how can i check if i can receive mail using a courier-imap mail server?
[05:45] <Wyzard> TestDrivenBug: yes and no, respectively
[05:45] <Anderson> install in progress
[05:45] <lupine_85> try to download  a message :)
[05:45] <Wyzard> TestDrivenBug: at least, not that I've ever heard of
[05:46] <poningru> TestDrivenBug: you can use ekiga.net for the username
[05:46] <TestDrivenBug> Wyzard, hmm, I couldn't find one.
[05:46] <Malice_> fuhquake the site is down anyone know of another?
[05:46] <TestDrivenBug> poningru, oh :)
[05:47] <Wyzard> Oh, I forgot, they renamed it to Ekiga
[05:47] <m0> restartng ..
[05:47] <Malice_> fuhquake is ekiga now?
[05:47] <TestDrivenBug> poningru, Wyzard thanks :)
[05:47] <tonyyarusso> I had a very odd problem with Ekiga.  Partway through a call it would just start this popping/snapping noise and I couldn't hear the other person.  Same thing on their end.
[05:49] <slime> i just install gcc, error was  "stdio.h" no file or directory
[05:49] <minerale> does anyone have experience with bluetooth? I can't seem to turn it on, I know i've got the hardware and the kernel module is loaded
[05:49] <Wyzard> slime: Install libc6-dev
[05:50] <Wyzard> slime: or better yet, install build-essential, which depends on that plus some other things
[05:50] <artzneo> hola
[05:50] <slime> Wyzard: i'll go for build-essential, thx
[05:50] <artzneo> mm ubuntu en espaol =)
[05:50] <artzneo> ??????
[05:50] <[NP] Tangent> uh oh
[05:51] <Wyzard> artzneo: #ubuntu-es
[05:51] <[NP] Tangent> I'm having some problems with various applications
[05:51] <artzneo> gracias =)
[05:51] <[NP] Tangent> ie, many errors that look like this one: [fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for GenerateMipmapEXT
[05:51] <etzerd> ?
[05:51] <[NP] Tangent> as such, Xine, OpenOffice, and others don't work anymore
[05:51] <[NP] Tangent> how might I fix this?
[05:51] <etzerd> when is the new version of ubuntu will be out?
[05:51] <slime> i think i'll remove vim 6.0 and install vim 7.0 any recommandation of what i should do?
[05:52] <[NP] Tangent> I've tried reinstalling the fglrx packages
[05:52] <Wyzard> etzerd: December, presumably
[05:52] <ArrenLex> NP: I had a lot of problems with fglrx. I eventually just stuck to plain 2D drivers. Do you need 3D?
[05:52] <Toilet`Duck> is there an irc client out there apart from xchat which has the same feel and look as mirc?
[05:52] <Toilet`Duck> or pirch or something.
[05:52] <ArrenLex> etzerd: the new version is scheduled for Oct. 26
[05:52] <[NP] Tangent> ArrenLex, for bzflag I would need 3D
[05:53] <etzerd> thanks Arrenlex
[05:53] <Wyzard> ArrenLex: They didn't shift the rest of the release cycle when they delayed dapper?
[05:53] <ArrenLex> NP: Sorry, I can't help you. Did it always do that or did it start after some sort of upgrade?
[05:53] <etzerd> I hope the new version can play DVD out of the box!
[05:53] <[NP] Tangent> it started after I ended up reinstalling X
[05:53] <ArrenLex> Wyzard: wikipedia says Oct. 26
[05:53] <[NP] Tangent> I had something go horribly wrong, so I reinstalled X server
[05:54] <ArrenLex> etzerd: it won't. It's illegal.
[05:54] <Wyzard> etzerd: unlikely...  Ubuntu can't distribute DVD codecs for legal reasons, not because of anything related to the release cycle
[05:54] <etzerd> I have running the automatix or easyubuntu for more than an hour
[05:54] <[NP] Tangent> might it perhaps be a package for X server that I'm missing?
[05:54] <ArrenLex> etzerd: DVDs are encrypted. Do decrypt them you need libdvdcss. This library is not legal in the states.
[05:54] <ArrenLex> Do -> to
[05:54] <Wyzard> and in some other countries too
[05:55] <etzerd> ok sorry
[05:55] <etzerd> by the way Arrenlex do you know any changes or look that the new version will come with?
[05:57] <etzerd> I used automatix for the past 3 hours it is still running at the present moment.
[05:57] <ArrenLex> etzerd: Gnome 2.16 for one.
[05:58] <iLLf8d> good evening all
[05:58] <Madpilot> etzerd, automatix is a good way to break your system; it's best avoided.
[05:58] <etzerd> Wow ArrenLex you mean the version will come with Gnome 2.16?
[05:58] <ArrenLex> etzerd: You can find out more at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft?highlight=%28eft%29%7C%28edgy%29
[05:59] <ArrenLex> etzerd: also wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgy_Eft#Edgy_Eft
[05:59] <etzerd> thanks Madpilot, I won't use it again
[05:59] <iLLf8d> hrm
[05:59] <iLLf8d> whats 6.06 called?
[05:59] <bruenig> Dapper Drake
[05:59] <iLLf8d> ah
[05:59] <iLLf8d> who makes up the names?
[06:00] <ArrenLex> iLL: Mark Shuttleworth, the head honcho, I'm assuming.
[06:00] <bruenig> some mailing list, ultimately okayed by Shuttleworth from what I have seen
[06:00] <bruenig> have read*
[06:00] <seshomaru123> hi all , im installing proftpd and get this error:If you are indeed using xinetd, you will have to convert the
[06:00] <seshomaru123> above into /etc/xinetd.conf format, and add it manually. See
[06:00] <seshomaru123> /usr/share/doc/xinetd/README.Debian for more information.
[06:00] <seshomaru123> -----------------------------------------------------------
[06:00] <seshomaru123> ProFTPd warning: not start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode, apparently. Check your configuration.
[06:01] <Schalken> how come i have a folder with 777 permissions yet when i try to open it with nautilus it says 'access was denied'?
[06:01] <ArrenLex> Schalken: you don't own it. 'sudo chown <yourusername> folder'
[06:01] <Schalken> Schalken: i do own it.
[06:01] <etzerd> Thanks ArrenLex, I'm reading it now.
[06:01] <Schalken> Schalken: ill do chown to make sure tho
[06:01] <bruenig> Schalken is using his own name in his messages?
[06:02] <ArrenLex> ArrenLex: Schlaken is talking to himself. That's kind of weird.
[06:02] <bruenig> lol
[06:02] <ArrenLex> ArrenLex: you're really handsome.
[06:02] <Schalken> lol
[06:02] <Schalken> my bad
[06:02] <iLLf8d> seshomaru123, sounds like you should dpkg --reconfigure proftpd and tell it to use standalone and or apt-get remove --purge then reinstall (but the purge will nuke everything related to this)
[06:02] <[NP] Tangent> [NP] Tangent, don't you agree that [NP] Tangent is a raging idiot?
[06:02] <ArrenLex> ArrenLex: [NP] Tangent sure is a raging idiot, isn't he.
[06:02] <ArrenLex> ArrenLex: I couldn't agree more, ArrenLex.
[06:03] <ChrisWhite> alright mom, I promise I won't get drunk like that again
[06:03] <bruenig> why would you need to own it if it had 777
[06:03] <ChrisWhite> just please make these weird self dialogue people go away :(
[06:03] <Rookie-> only 800 users .... hmmm ... and most are talking to them selfs .... got to be sunday
[06:03] <seshomaru123> iLLf8d, thanks i will try
[06:03] <Schalken> ArrenLex: i own the file and with 777 permissions yet nautilus cant open it. i can cd into it though.
[06:04] <ArrenLex> Schalken: go to the directory where the file is and run 'ls -l <file>' and paste the result here.
[06:04] <Rookie-> ftp account ?
[06:04] <Rookie-> ftp user ?
[06:04] <ChrisWhite> I get to try out network manager on monday
[06:04] <bruenig> Schalken,  you should try running this command in terminal "nautilus directory"
[06:04] <ChrisWhite> since there's no one around here to steal wifi from
[06:04] <ArrenLex> Scalken: you can't cd into a file. Is it a file or a filder?
[06:05] <bruenig> with the directory changed to what you want
[06:05] <Schalken> bruenig: tried that, same prob
[06:05] <ArrenLex> filder -> folder
[06:05] <iLLf8d> bbiaf
[06:05] <[NP] Tangent> grr
[06:05] <[NP] Tangent> I need to get this stuff all working
[06:05] <Schalken> ArrenLex: it is a folder. i can cd into it, however nautilus can't open it.
[06:05] <[NP] Tangent> [fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for GenerateMipmapEXT
[06:05] <[NP] Tangent> why would I get that when I try to run Xine?
[06:05] <[NP] Tangent> it worked before
[06:05] <ArrenLex> Schalken: ls -l <folder>
[06:05] <[NP] Tangent> then when I reinstalled Xserver
[06:05] <Schalken> the line for the folder reads: "drwxrwxrwx 2 jesse jesse 1616 2006-09-19 05:09 Visual Communication"
[06:05] <[NP] Tangent> it went kaboom
[06:06] <runes2006> I installed samba server and client then shared a folder in linux...when I use my windows box which is on the same local network I can acces the box buit it wants a uid and password but rejects them all?
[06:06] <jijiu> hi guys.. i'm trying to compile something on a ubuntu dapper 6.06 and it doesn't find the -lpthread library.. wich package should i install to get it working? i can't find it on my apt
[06:06] <Schalken> ArrenLex: ^ from ls -l
[06:07] <seshomaru123> iLLf8d, I get this error again: ProFTPd warning: not start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode, apparently. Check your configuration.
[06:07] <Dr_willis> !info libpthread
[06:07] <ubotu> Package libpthread does not exist in any distro I know
[06:07] <kitche> runes2006: samba uses it's own user information
[06:07] <Dr_willis> Hmmm
[06:07] <ArrenLex> Schalken: everything should work. It must be something with nautilus.
[06:07] <ArrenLex> Schalken: I use KDE so I can't help you further. Sorry.
[06:07] <Dr_willis> kaffe-pthreads - A POSIX threads enabled version of the Kaffe VM  - is the only hit i get
[06:07] <Schalken> ArrenLex: why would it pick on just this little folder?
[06:07] <bruenig> Schalken, try gksudo nautilus and see if it will let you navigate into it
[06:08] <runes2006> kitche, the interface only allows me to select the file I want to share it says noting about users
[06:08] <ArrenLex> Schalken: hell if I know. Are there any unusual circumstances surrounding it?
[06:08] <kitche> runes2006: samba uses it's own user databse
[06:08] <kitche> runes2006: you have to set the users up
[06:08] <jijiu> Dr_willisme too Oo
[06:08] <Schalken> bruenig: i can navigate through it in nautilus as root, yes
[06:08] <runes2006> kitche, ok but umm that doesn't explain how I get to log into it
[06:09] <bruenig> Schlaken, that appears to indicate something, not sure what but certainly something
[06:09] <Schalken> ArrenLex: i will just copy its contents into a new folder using the terminal
[06:09] <zcat[1] > is there a way of setting up ubuntu so it will coexist in a windows network without a DHCP server, using 192.169.254.* addresses like windows does and switching to DHCP if a server appears later?
[06:09] <bruenig> Schalken, try chmod 777 -R directory
[06:09] <runes2006> kitche, is there a tool in ubuntu to create users?
[06:10] <kitche> runes2006: see if swat is enabled it's an easy way to configure samba compared to the writing the configs by hand
[06:10] <bruenig> maybe there is some problem with something in the directory
[06:10] <ArrenLex> bruenig: no, he has full permissions already.
[06:10] <runes2006> ok thx brb
[06:10] <bruenig> just the folder not recursively
[06:10] <ArrenLex> bru: it shouldn't matter.
[06:10] <ArrenLex> Not to open the folder.
[06:10] <ArrenLex> I have to go. Good luck, all.
[06:10] <kishore> r there any wildcards in.. linux
[06:10] <bruenig> kishore, the * is a wildcard
[06:11] <ArrenLex> Kishore, of course. Asterisk.
[06:11] <Schalken> bruenig: done that, same problem.
[06:11] <kishore> ya.. can i use...how
[06:11] <bruenig> Schalken, well change the directory I guess
[06:11] <supermiguel> how can i install nfts-3g is asking me for libc6 libntfs-3g
[06:11] <jason_> is it possible to change the Daemon loading screen?
[06:11] <briguyd> so how do i get it to run a command every time it starts up or logs on or something?
[06:11] <kitche> kishore: easy let say you want to search for a file in a certain directory you would eo ls -l blah*.txt and it will look for everything that starts with blah
[06:12] <supermiguel> how can i install nfts-3g is asking me for libc6 libntfs-3g
[06:12] <zcat[1] > briguyd: /etc/rc2.d/ for bootup, preferences > session for login..
[06:12] <bruenig> kishore, fore instance. Let's say you have three files "stupid" "smart" and "other". Do rm s*, and it will only remove the smart and stupid files
[06:12] <runes2006> kitche, swat is now installed
[06:12] <briguyd> zcat[1] , what is it in xubuntu, do you know??
[06:12] <lupine_85_> xfce :)
[06:12] <kishore> ok
[06:13] <kitche> runes2006: ok now open up a browser and go to localhost:431 that should take you to the swat page
[06:13] <zcat[1] > briguyd: no idea.. only tried xfce briefly. But it will have something similar somewhere
[06:13] <Schalken> bruenig: using the terminal i managed to copy the contents into a new directory and delete the old one. i have a feeling the filesystem was currupt, because it should have been working.
[06:13] <jason_> Does anyone know how i can change the Ubuntu boot screen?
[06:14] <Dr_willis> !usplash
[06:14] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[06:14] <Dr_willis> jason_,  and its a Pain.
[06:14] <jason_> ah, thanks.
[06:15] <runes2006> kitche, no go
[06:15] <jason_> i just want to change the ugly colors
[06:16] <supermiguel> !lib
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <slime> how do i install vim 7.x ?
[06:17] <jbroome> !info vim
[06:17] <supermiguel> how can i install libc6?
[06:17] <slime> the latest version for ubuntu is 6.x
[06:17] <ubotu> vim: Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor. In component main, is important. Version 1:6.4-006+2ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 541 kB, installed size 1100 kB
[06:17] <Asc> jason_: you can remove it entirely by deleting the word 'splash' from the entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:17] <jbroome> i thought i had 7, and i'm running dapper
[06:17] <Schalken> warning to all: nautilus may spontaneously boycott one of your folders so you cant open it. it happened to me, it could happen to YOU OMG LOL
[06:17] <TheH> Hi, I just successfully edit xorg to use my hdtv, but the 1280x720p resolution it's to big, I need help shrinking it to my 37"
[06:17] <TheH> please any help
[06:17] <Asc> jason_: as an added bonus, doing so makes the boot process look much more geeky.
[06:17] <slime> jbroome: can you check?
[06:18] <jbroome> slime: version 7.0.35   I'm not sure how i got it though. :)
[06:18] <jason_> Asc: That's even better, thanks. I was never keen on the splashscreen, always loved the oldschool Linux bootscreen
[06:19] <seshomaru123> can anyone recommend an ftp server?
[06:19] <runes2006> kitche, no go
[06:19] <Dr_willis> seshomaru123,  you will hear "use ssh instead of ftp'" a lot. :P
[06:20] <TheH> Hi, I just successfully edit xorg to use my hdtv, but the 1280x720p resolution it's to big, I need help shrinking it to my 37"?
[06:20] <ArrenLex> BOO
[06:20] <Outerlimit> !perl
[06:20] <ubotu> perl: Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language. In component main, is optional. Version 5.8.7-10ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 3219 kB, installed size 11172 kB
[06:21] <Schalken> !info epiphany-browser
[06:21] <ubotu> epiphany-browser: Intuitive GNOME web browser. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2188 kB, installed size 11040 kB
[06:21] <seshomaru123> Dr_willis, thanks but I need it for a Fedora network install
[06:21] <seshomaru123> I would like to serve the files from an Ubuntu ftp server
[06:21] <Xenguy> seshomaru123: vsftpd
[06:21] <Outerlimit> I have a question, what is the difference between using the Server installtion CD and using a CD that Ubuntu ships to you for free?
[06:22] <ArrenLex> Outerlimit: the CD that Ubuntu ships you for free is the desktop install CD, the same one you can download.
[06:22] <seshomaru123> Xenguy, I have proftp installed but can't get it running ,do I need to uninstall it first to run vsftpd?
[06:22] <ArrenLex> The Server install CD has no graphical interface. It can be used for low-end systems, to get a bare-bones install. Or to do fancy things like RAID.
[06:22] <Outerlimit> I c, thanks :-)
[06:22] <ArrenLex> The Desktop install CD is also a live CD and has some windows applications on it. It's for most users.
[06:22] <Xenguy> seshomaru123: if there is a conflict, then installing vsftpd will reveal that I think
[06:23] <Outerlimit> i didnt have time to d/l the server install, so i used the one that is shipped to setup my server before i left for school
[06:23] <seshomaru123> Xenguy , thanks , where is vsftpd's directory?
[06:24] <Outerlimit> Sry for all the quetions, but could anyone tell me why when i attempt to run gkrellm to connect to my server at home (running gkrellmd) i get the error "Broken Server Connection"
[06:24] <Outerlimit> but if i am on the local network, it is fine
[06:25] <ArrenLex> Outerlimit: are you behind a router?
[06:25] <Outerlimit> Yes
[06:26] <Outerlimit> port forwarding is enabled on the router in front of the server
[06:26] <Outerlimit> do i need ports for the router in front of me here?
[06:27] <supermiguel> any one knows how can i set uo a ftp secure server
[06:28] <ArrenLex> supermiguel: I don't think we're that specialised, and nor do we have time to do whole walkthroughs. Google is your friend. "Linux sftp server howto"
[06:30] <supermiguel> im just bored
[06:30] <supermiguel> and i want to do something
[06:30] <Outerlimit> heh
[06:30] <ChrisWhite> solve bugs
[06:30] <Outerlimit> ArrenLex, do u think the problem is that im not forwarding ports on my side (client)
[06:31] <ArrenLex> Outerlimit: I'm not familiar with gkrellm. I can't answer your question.
[06:31] <supermiguel> Outerlimit: what are you tring to do?
[06:31] <Outerlimit> supermiguel, Im running gkrellmd on my server, and when i try to run gkrellm to monitor it here, i get broken server connection
[06:32] <Outerlimit> when i stop gkrellmd, it fails
[06:32] <Outerlimit> like it doesnt say broken server connectoin, but says it cant find the server
[06:32] <supermiguel> gkrellmd why are you using that
[06:32] <Outerlimit> do u have a better idea?
[06:32] <AlReece45> does anyone know how to fix a "IRQ INTR_SR lossage" problem?
[06:32] <supermiguel> ssh
[06:32] <supermiguel> basically
[06:32] <supermiguel> what do you want to do?
[06:32] <Outerlimit> i was using it because i wanted to monitor my server remotly and see graphical things
[06:33] <Outerlimit> like, cpu usage
[06:33] <Outerlimit> processes, ethernet, number of users
[06:33] <Outerlimit> well, i use ssh
[06:33] <supermiguel> ummm
[06:33] <supermiguel> wait
[06:33] <supermiguel> you want to make it secure
[06:33] <rmd_> i know this is probably the wrong place, but i cannot get grub (installed by ubuntu) to boot my dell restoration partition.  i've created the entry, but somethin called drmk says it cannot load the kernel... any ideas?  i've tried googling grub dell restore but i dont understand...
[06:33] <Outerlimit> rmd_, if u press f12 ( i ithink) u can tellthe BIOS to boot that
[06:33] <seshomaru123> Im trying to run vsftpd but get this error: ~$ sudo vsftpd
[06:33] <seshomaru123> 500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket
[06:34] <seshomaru123> any advice?
[06:34] <Outerlimit> for example, when u have windows installed, u dont get to select th dell partition
[06:34] <Outerlimit> supermiguel, secure is nice, but having it working first would be nicde
[06:34] <rmd_> Outerlimit: i think grub has removed that option because the dell knowledge base says it should be ctrl+f11 and it doesn't work for me.
[06:34] <Xenguy> seshomaru123: back; dpkg -L vsftpd
[06:34] <Dr_willis> my pc has a 'hit F11 to selet boot drive' option.  Its a bios option for my system.
[06:34] <Outerlimit> that should all be BIOS based...
[06:34] <Xenguy> seshomaru123: to get a list of files in the package
[06:35] <supermiguel> outer just put the monitors on your server
[06:35] <supermiguel> and just remote it
[06:35] <rmd_> but what if there was a bootloader that grub has replaced?
[06:35] <Dr_willis> but if its wanting to boot the 2nd partition on the drive.. Hmm
[06:35] <TheH> Hi, I just successfully edit xorg to use my hdtv, but the 1280x720p resolution it's to big, I need help shrinking it to my 37"?
[06:35] <Outerlimit> rmd_, the previous bootloader was windows
[06:35] <rmd_> hmm
[06:35] <Outerlimit> supermiguel, im not sure how to do that
[06:35] <supermiguel> ok
[06:36] <Outerlimit> unless i just ssh in and type gkrellm
[06:36] <rmd_> it's not just dell, its anyone selling computers without restoration cd's
[06:36] <seshomaru123> Xenguy, sorry should i ran the command :dpkg -L vsftpd ?
[06:36] <rmd_> cds*
[06:36] <supermiguel> do you what to remote it from a linux or windows computer/
[06:36] <rmd_> anyway.  i'll try rebooting and pressing different fkeys
[06:36] <Outerlimit> im remoting in from linux
[06:36] <supermiguel> ok
[06:36] <Outerlimit> rmd_, another option
[06:36] <Outerlimit> is call dell and ask them for cds
[06:36] <Xenguy> seshomaru123: sure (completely safe; just a query)
[06:36] <Consty> What's the closest GTK app that competes with k3b?
[06:36] <supermiguel> outer do you know how to use vnc?
[06:36] <Outerlimit> im assuming you are trying to reinstall windos?
[06:36] <Consty> k3b has way to many dependencies in ubuntu.. I dont want to install a ton of kde crap.
[06:36] <Dr_willis> I think dell wants you to 'burn' your own restore dvd/cds :(
[06:36] <Outerlimit> superm1, no
[06:37] <supermiguel> ok
[06:37] <seshomaru123> Xenguy, ok , what do i do with the output?
[06:37] <Xenguy> seshomaru123: maybe after you've installed vsftpd is best
[06:37] <AlReece45> Can anyone here help me with "IRQ INTR_SF lossage" errors?
[06:37] <supermiguel> system > preferences> remote desktop
[06:37] <Xenguy> seshomaru123: you asked a previous question about directory location - this list will help you with that
[06:37] <supermiguel> activate # 1,2 and 3 (set up a hard password)
[06:37] <supermiguel> sorry 1,2 and 4
[06:38] <seshomaru123> Xenguy,  oh I undestand
[06:38] <Outerlimit> dont i need to do that on the server?
[06:38] <supermiguel> leave 3 uncheck the one that says ask for your confirmation
[06:38] <supermiguel> yes ssir
[06:38] <Outerlimit> ok, well i have a problem there
[06:38] <supermiguel> why
[06:38] <Outerlimit> cuz the server is hrs away
[06:38] <Outerlimit> at home
[06:38] <Outerlimit> im at college
[06:38] <jason_> is it possible to mount ISO's in Linux? Like Daemon tools for Windows?
[06:38] <seshomaru123> Xenguy, but it seems I get the same error on vsftpd that i got with proftpd
[06:39] <DJAdmiral> !iso
[06:39] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[06:39] <DJAdmiral> enjoy.
[06:39] <seshomaru123> 500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket
[06:39] <supermiguel> Outerlimit: well do you have any port open on your server?
[06:39] <Outerlimit> supermiguel, ssh is active
[06:39] <Xenguy> seshomaru123: what is the error? (please don't paste multi-lines into the channel tho :-)
[06:39] <Outerlimit> and the ports for gkrellm
[06:39] <Xenguy> seshomaru123: ahh
[06:39] <Outerlimit> i can remote into the router if need be
[06:39] <supermiguel> type on your console
[06:40] <Xenguy> seshomaru123: that error looks significant :-)
[06:40] <Consty> What is the closest competative burning application to k3b that uses gtk instead of qt?
[06:40] <supermiguel> vncviewer xxx
[06:40] <supermiguel> xxx will be your ip or domain
[06:40] <Xenguy> seshomaru123: I have no idea what it means
[06:40] <DJAdmiral> !img
[06:40] <seshomaru123> Xenguy - ok thank you ....I will keep looking.....
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about img - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <iLL_Afk> Consty, maybe gnome baker
[06:41] <Outerlimit> supermiguel, do that on this computer?  and does it need any ports other than ssh?
[06:41] <bruenig> Consty, gnomebaker
[06:41] <DJAdmiral> How does one write IMG files to a floppy disk?
[06:41] <Xenguy> seshomaru123: google the error message (as a phrase)
[06:41] <ArrenLex> !burn
[06:41] <tamacracker> Hey guys.... I have a question, has anyone successfully installed Photoshop 7.0 onto Ubuntu?
[06:41] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[06:41] <supermiguel> what is your ip?
[06:41] <Consty> The problem with gnomebaker is that it doesn't support copying dvd's.. anyone know a program for that?
[06:41] <supermiguel> let me try
[06:41] <Outerlimit> server is: outernet.dnsalias.net
[06:42] <TheH> Hi, I just successfully edit xorg to use my hdtv, but the 1280x720p resolution it's to big, I need help shrinking it to my 37"?
[06:42] <supermiguel> can you ping that server?
[06:42] <Outerlimit> yes
[06:42] <DJAdmiral> Floppy disk images to disk, any idea?
[06:42] <Outerlimit> im ssh'd into it now
[06:42] <Outerlimit> well, ping no... i have ping turned off
[06:42] <Outerlimit> but i am ssh'd into it
[06:43] <DJAdmiral> Never mind then
[06:43] <TheH> Hi, I just successfully edit xorg to use my hdtv, but the 1280x720p resolution it's to big, I need help shrinking it to my 37"?
[06:43] <Outerlimit> dont i need to enable vnc on the server before i can use it?
[06:43] <bruenig> !repeat
[06:43] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:43] <supermiguel> some times
[06:43] <Outerlimit> OIC
[06:43] <Outerlimit> what if i run vncpasswd
[06:43] <supermiguel> will be your machine
[06:43] <Outerlimit> if i run while sshd into my server...
[06:43] <tamacracker> Has anyone successfully installed Photoshop 7.0 onto Ubuntu?
[06:44] <TheH> yes I have done a lot a research that is how I got this to work, is just a minor thing I'm missing prolly
[06:44] <TheH> sorry
[06:44] <Xenguy> Outerlimit: wouldn't it be simpler to use the command-line (if possible) ?
[06:44] <ArrenLex> tama: yes, I have.
[06:44] <SuperBeing> Ubuntu's got 99 problems and the b!tch aint one
[06:44] <Outerlimit> Xenguy, im not sure... my original problem is i want to run gkrellm
[06:44] <ArrenLex> !language
[06:44] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:44] <SuperBeing> I keep getting black screens
[06:44] <tamacracker> I want to install it.. is there instructions on how to correctly install it?
[06:44] <Xenguy> Outerlimit: remember vnc runs in the clear, unless tunnelled over SSH
[06:45] <Outerlimit> Im fine with just using ssh
[06:45] <Xenguy> Outerlimit: oh, ok
[06:45] <Outerlimit> i dont know much about vnc
[06:45] <Outerlimit> i dont like in the clear over the internet =\
[06:45] <SuperBeing> I figured out how to fix this error in isntall, I switched VGA to 800x600, but now when I boot Ubuntu Server I just get a back screen
[06:45] <Outerlimit> on my local network, i dont care
[06:45] <ArrenLex> tama, get "wine" using synaptic or apt-get. Then just run 'wine setup.exe' on your setup file. The rest will explain itself.
[06:45] <supermiguel> have ytou ever
[06:45] <ArrenLex> tama: if you have problems, THEN ask for help.
[06:45] <supermiguel> use windows?
[06:45] <Xenguy> Outerlimit: it is useful, but needs an SSH tunnel over the Internet
[06:45] <tamacracker> ok cool
[06:46] <tamacracker> im gonna try to install it right now :D
[06:46] <supermiguel> outerlimit
[06:46] <supermiguel> have you use windows?
[06:46] <Xenguy> Outerlimit: freenx may be another option for you, depending
[06:46] <slime_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/T0MRbT70.html  <--- i did a ./config  how do i upgrade the library
[06:46] <Outerlimit> supermiguel, yes i have used windows
[06:46] <Outerlimit> i run linux all the time now
[06:46] <supermiguel> have you used remote desktop on windows?
[06:47] <supermiguel> that you can control another computer
[06:47] <TheH> anyone can help me with getting underscan to work on xorg?
[06:47] <supermiguel> and that kind of stuff?
[06:47] <Tenebrys> Hi!  I'm here to ruin your evening.
[06:47] <Outerlimit> yes, i have
[06:47] <supermiguel> thast vnc
[06:47] <Outerlimit> ok, well i dont want that
[06:47] <supermiguel> thats look like what you need
[06:47] <Outerlimit> no
[06:47] <Outerlimit> look
[06:47] <rmd_> well, grub can't boot it and none of the fkeys can bring up whatever is supposed to boot my dell restoration partition
[06:47] <supermiguel> :A
[06:47] <SuperBeing> can someone tell me how I can get it some sort of safe boot mode in ubuntu so I can maybe fix this video issue
[06:47] <Outerlimit> err... have u ever seen gkrellm?
[06:47] <supermiguel> yep
[06:47] <iLL_Afk> Tenebrys, you gonna ask noob questions and not listen to the answers?
[06:47] <Outerlimit> http://members.dslextreme.com/users/billw/gkrellm/gkrellm.html
[06:47] <ArrenLex> SuperBeing: you can boot to "restore mode" if you know your way around the command line. Do you?
[06:47] <Outerlimit> i just want a box like that
[06:47] <Outerlimit> on my desktop here
[06:48] <Outerlimit> it worked when i was at home on the local network
[06:48] <Outerlimit> now that im going through the internet, it is not working
[06:48] <SuperBeing> ArrenLex, yes, some what, but how do I get into restore mode in the first place?
[06:48] <SuperBeing> (keep in mind I can't get into commandline at all, at the moment, this is the issue)
[06:48] <ArrenLex> SuperBeing: is grub your boot loader?
[06:48] <jason_> !iso
[06:48] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[06:48] <supermiguel> ummm
[06:48] <ArrenLex> If so, then just boot and select "restore mode" rather than your usual kernel.
[06:48] <SuperBeing> ya, i suppose so, it's a fresh install of Ubuntu Server
[06:48] <supermiguel> what ip are you using?
[06:48] <Tenebrys> Maybe not -completely- noob questions, and I'll try to listen.  But, my problem is with trying to get a proper boot-manager and such set up on my computer.  It appears that my Linux adventures have left me with a very "interesting" partitioning scheme, and there's pretty much no way to get to my Ubuntu partition other than indirectly.
[06:48] <Outerlimit> to connect to it?
[06:48] <runes2006> wishlist: a simple util to set up samba to share
[06:49] <SuperBeing> it just automatically goes to the usual kernal, how do I get to a select screen?
[06:49] <supermiguel> yep
[06:49] <Outerlimit> im using outernet.dnsalias.net
[06:49] <supermiguel> :A
[06:49] <Outerlimit> it works for ssh
[06:49] <supermiguel> did you set up
[06:49] <Outerlimit> port forwarding? yes
[06:49] <supermiguel> that port
[06:49] <supermiguel> to be realased on your machine?
[06:49] <TheH> can anyone PLEASE help me with getting underscan to work on xorg?
[06:49] <ArrenLex> SuperBeing: copy your /boot/grub/menu.lst into pastebin.
[06:49] <ArrenLex> !paste
[06:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:49] <Outerlimit> supermiguel, i dont know what u mean..
[06:49] <SuperBeing> ArrenLex, I can't access anything, right when it boots the screen is just blank
[06:49] <Outerlimit> released on which machine, and what does released mean
[06:49] <supermiguel> do you use any router?
[06:50] <CVirus> what was the apt-get argument that fetches an updated list of hardware names for lspci ?
[06:50] <SuperBeing> I don't have access to ubuntu or linux at all
[06:50] <Outerlimit> i have one at home, and ports are being forwarded
[06:50] <ArrenLex> SuperBeing: you're going to have to boot from a rescue CD, then.
[06:50] <SuperBeing> it boots to it (so it says), but then I just get a blank sreen
[06:50] <Outerlimit> and i have one here
[06:50] <Tenebrys> After some screwing around this evening, I now have... let's see.
[06:50] <ArrenLex> SuperBeing: was it always like this or did it just break?
[06:50] <supermiguel> can you ping that port?
[06:50] <SuperBeing> this is a fresh install
[06:50] <Tenebrys> /dev/sda1 : My main Linux partition
[06:50] <SuperBeing> so it was my first time installing ubuntu server
[06:50] <Schalken> ArrenLex: omg Nautilus boycotted by "Visual Communication" folder again!!!
[06:50] <ArrenLex> SuperBeing: has ubuntu or any flavour of Linux worked before?
[06:50] <SuperBeing> haven't tried others
[06:51] <Tenebrys> /dev/sda4 : 5-gig Linux partition that I installed just so I could get grub back on my system
[06:51] <muhammad> heey how to take screenshots during ubuntu installation , in fedora its like shift+print is there any syskey that do the same operation in ubuntu /
[06:51] <SuperBeing> i've tried ubuntu desktop and that worked, but when i'd log off i'd get the black screen of death as well
[06:51] <Tenebrys> /dev/sda2 : WinXP partition that started this whole mess
[06:51] <ArrenLex> Schalken: rename it to something with a short name with no space. i.e. in the command line, execute 'mv Visual\ Communication foobar'
[06:51] <ArrenLex> Then see if Nautilus will open it.
[06:51] <Tenebrys> /dev/sda3 : The innocent bystander through it all, Linux Swap.
[06:51] <Outerlimit> i dont know how to ping a port...
[06:51] <TheH> can anyone PLEASE help me with getting underscan to work on xorg?
[06:52] <Tenebrys> It would appear that when I installed Windows XP on this system, I was careful to leave plenty of unallocated HD space for it to be installed to.
[06:52] <Outerlimit> BUt i can tellu this
[06:52] <Outerlimit> when i do /etc/init.d/gkrellmd stop
[06:52] <Outerlimit> on the server
[06:52] <Outerlimit> i get a different error msg
[06:52] <iLLf8d> Tenebrys, you installed winxp second?
[06:52] <Tenebrys> Yeah, I did.
[06:52] <Schalken> ArrenLex: calling it foobar fixed it :S that didnt work last time
[06:52] <supermiguel> every time that you tried
[06:52] <Tenebrys> And when I did, it decided to make itself the only bootable partition.
[06:52] <Outerlimit> when gkrellmd is stopped, i get Unable to connect
[06:52] <medic30420> does anybody know if you can have two people working on the same computer at the same time, one locally and the other remotely.  (everything is ubuntu, and different xsessions)
[06:52] <supermiguel> it gived you a differetn error
[06:52] <SuperBeing> ArrenLex, ive experienced this black screen several times in different situations. With Ubuntu Desktop, when choosing install, i'd get it, I fixed this by changing VGA to 800x600, once it instlaled, it booted properly, however when i'd log off gnome, i'd get that black screen again
[06:52] <Outerlimit> when it is running
[06:52] <CVirus> what was the apt-get argument that fetches an updated list of hardware names for lspci ?
[06:52] <Outerlimit> i get Broken Server Connection
[06:52] <Schalken> Schalken: nautilus is being increadable unpredictable
[06:52] <ArrenLex> Scalken: that's very odd. There's nothing WRONG with a long name with a space. It should open.
[06:52] <Outerlimit> and Yes, those errors are the same everytime
[06:53] <Xenguy> CVirus: update  ?
[06:53] <SuperBeing> Now after installing ubuntu server, i get this black screen after booting
[06:53] <ArrenLex> ArrenLex: Schalken is talking to himself again.
[06:53] <Schalken> aww dammit
[06:53] <ArrenLex> ArrenLex: Indeed. Lunatic.
[06:53] <CVirus> Xenguy: nope
[06:53] <SuperBeing> ubuntu or linux obviously doesn't like my video card
[06:53] <Tenebrys> I've been searching around a -lot- for a proper boot manager, never found one.
[06:53] <Schalken> lol
[06:53] <iLLf8d> Tenebrys, yeah you'll need to fix that through grub and I dunno how offhand without doing a bunch of reading I've only had to fix that twice in 11 years so I don't recall the steps offhand (if it was lilo I could do that from memory)
[06:53] <Xenguy> CVirus: never heard of it
[06:53] <ArrenLex> SuperBeing: I take it there's no GUI in your server install?
[06:53] <SuperBeing> nope
[06:53] <SuperBeing> I should just get commandline, but i don't even get that
[06:54] <bur[n] er> anyone know if it's possible to do activesync syncing via ubuntu?
[06:54] <iLLf8d> Tenebrys, I take it grub no longer comes up:
[06:54] <Tenebrys> Yeah... I took one look at the grub manual and just wanted to crawl back to bed.
[06:54] <ArrenLex> SuperBeing: then your video card has nothing else to do with it. Something else is wrong.
[06:54] <ArrenLex> SB: Does Windows work on this machine?
[06:54] <Tenebrys> Heh... with a bit of jerry-rigging, actually yes.
[06:54] <iLLf8d> Tenebrys, actually its not overly difficult
[06:54] <SuperBeing> I just get the typical boot load screen, then black screen
[06:54] <ArrenLex> burner: for PDA?
[06:54] <Tenebrys> You see, the /dev/sda4 partition I installed was to get it back.
[06:54] <iLLf8d> Tenebrys, looks more daunting then it is
[06:54] <Tenebrys> Heh... hmm.
[06:54] <medic30420> does anybody know if you can have two people working on the same computer at the same time, one locally and the other remotely.  (everything is ubuntu, and different xsessions)
[06:55] <iLLf8d> you need to make a grub floppy and just run a few commands
[06:55] <Xenguy> medic30420: freenx
[06:55] <MNGRVE> how do i uninstall a plugin from firefox?
[06:55] <Tenebrys> grub floppy... hmm.  Just FYI, this comp's floppy drive doesn't work.
[06:55] <lnxusr> hello all md5sum do not match on 606.1 lts from ftp.wayne.edu
[06:55] <MNGRVE> i accidentally installed the win32 version of flash
[06:55] <Xenguy> medic30420: for a graphical environment; ssh for command-line
[06:55] <ArrenLex> MNGRVE: Just go to the Extensions screen and click uninstall.
[06:55] <medic30420> Xenguy, does it let me login, or do both users have to be logged in locally first?
[06:55] <MNGRVE> ArrenLex: it's not an extension
[06:56] <ArrenLex> MNGRVE: Oh. It's in your ~/.mozilla/plugins
[06:56] <MNGRVE> thanks :D
[06:56] <lnxusr> 606.1desktop 386 iso
[06:56] <Xenguy> medic30420: former
[06:56] <iLLf8d> Tenebrys, do you get a grub prompt or not?
[06:56] <m0`> hi
[06:56] <ArrenLex> MNGRVE: Remove the files libflashplayer.so and flashplayer.xpt
[06:56] <TheH> Hi, I just successfully edit xorg to use my hdtv, but the 1280x720p resolution it's to big, I need help shrinking it to my 37"?
[06:56] <Xenguy> medic30420: AFAIK
[06:56] <m0`> i need to add "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1" inorder for Firefox to work
[06:56] <ArrenLex> MNGRVE: I don't know how you can "accidentally" install the wrong version of Flash, though, because there's only one version of Flash.
[06:56] <medic30420> Xenguy, thanks
[06:56] <Tenebrys> Yeah.  Because of what I did, /dev/sda4 boots first, and it brings up grub with it, with all my partitions.
[06:56] <m0`> how can I do that withought doing it from terminal
[06:56] <Xenguy> medic30420: yw
[06:56] <bur[n] er> ArrenLex: kinda... it's a phone, but it runs windows mobile
[06:57] <muhammad> is there any way to take screenshots during ubuntu installation ?
[06:57] <MNGRVE> ArrenLex: wine+wrong link = no
[06:57] <bur[n] er> ArrenLex: mostly i want to put mp3s on its storage card via usb, but not sure how i would... i might try wine
[06:57] <ArrenLex> burner: then it probably won't work. At least not without a lot of hacking.
[06:57] <ArrenLex> burner: you can check out the synce project on http://synce.sf.net
[06:58] <ArrenLex> burner: synce is for syncing PDAs. It warns that it most often won't work on smartphones. My own smartphone didn't work with it.
[06:58] <Fcukit> Hey all
[06:58] <ArrenLex> burner: try it though. Maybe magical things might happen.
[06:58] <iLLf8d> Tenebrys, oh thats good
[06:58] <jason_> do you guys think I'd get a better framerate and more speed if I set my colors to 16bit? I've got an older computer
[06:58] <ArrenLex> F.: could you please change your name?
[06:58] <ArrenLex> jason: More framerate in what?
[06:58] <AlReece45> Can anyone help me with "IRQ INTR_SF lossage" problems?
[06:58] <jason_> 3D
[06:58] <Xenguy> Fcukit: greets
[06:59] <Fcukit> Guys, I ordered some Ubuntu cds from Shipit and it boots up, goes into gnome etc
[06:59] <Fcukit> but on Step 6 of the install
[06:59] <Fcukit> when I press "Install" it freezes ....
[06:59] <PopeOfWar> !enter
[06:59] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[06:59] <whyso> hey i have my hard drives filled up on windows partitian, is there a way to transfer them when i switch to ubuntu without deleting anything?
[06:59] <Fcukit> yet i can still open other things, drag the window around etc
[06:59] <SuperBeing> alright, damn ubuntu, i gotta try some other distro, this think gives me too many black screens of death
[06:59] <rmd_> ok.  i'll ask one last time and leave you all alone.  i installed ubuntu and it installed grub.  i need to restore my windows installation.  no fkeys will bring up the restoration software and grub cannot boot it (cannot find kernel msg from drmk)... can anyone help me here?  or point me to a channel?  none of the information on the web agrees..
[06:59] <whyso> and i want to change them to rizer or whatever ubuntu uses
[06:59] <Madpilot> Fcukit, on every single disc ShipIt sent you?
[06:59] <bur[n] er> ArrenLex: thanks for the feedback... i'll let you know how wine goes... vmware with windows xp and activesync works, but that's not a great solution ;)
[07:00] <Madpilot> whyso, no
[07:00] <Fcukit> madpilot i've only tried one : o
[07:00] <PopeOfWar> rmd_: I installed windows after I installed Linux... so, as far as I'm concerned, you're SOL
[07:00] <jason_> Wine is running like ass for me. Anyone know of a way to improve performance?
[07:00] <Xenguy> Fcukit: sometimes it can just come down to hardware incompatibility
[07:00] <ArrenLex> burner: you can't use activesync with wine.
[07:00] <whyso> well crap :(
[07:00] <MNGRVE> can someone tell me where to get a lot of video codecs?
[07:00] <bur[n] er> ArrenLex: you tried?
[07:00] <ArrenLex> burner: activesync requires a driver. wine does not do drivers. It's strictly API.
[07:00] <Madpilot> Fcukit, bad CDs happen, even on pressed CDs
[07:00] <ArrenLex> burner: ys.
[07:00] <ArrenLex> yes
[07:00] <jason_> MNGRVE: Try Automatix
[07:00] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell MNGRVE about codecs
[07:00] <TheH> can anyone PLEASE help me with getting underscan to work on xorg?
[07:00] <whyso> no way at all to get around that :?(
[07:00] <TheH> pleasee
[07:00] <Madpilot> jason_, please don't recommend that disaster
[07:01] <Xenguy> !automatix
[07:01] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[07:01] <ArrenLex> MNGRVE: download w32codecs from the mplayer page and put them in /usr/lib/win32
[07:01] <bur[n] er> bummer..... guess it's vmware for me for awhile... wish i could get a "linux-friendly" phone... i heard the blackberry pearl is a usb mass storage device :)
[07:01] <MNGRVE> kk
[07:01] <ArrenLex> !repeat
[07:01] <jason_> Madpilot: So thier wiki was right, haha.
[07:01] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:01] <rmd_> you know, there might be something to warning users that they'll lose the ability to restore their system by installing grub..
[07:01] <Madpilot> jason_, which wiki?
[07:01] <rmd_> at least that it is possible
[07:01] <ArrenLex> burner: I just have an SD card in my own smartphone and a card reader in my computer.
[07:01] <PopeOfWar> Ok, how do I downalod the friggin' build-essential package?? I am at http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/devel/build-essential but I can't find a way to download anything!!
[07:01] <jason_> the Automatix wiki states that #ubuntu say negative things about their tools
[07:02] <bur[n] er> ArrenLex: by microsd is behind the battery... lil bit of a pain :\
[07:02] <Madpilot> jason_, yes, we do. This is because automatix breask things.
[07:02] <ArrenLex> Burner: I understand. Other than googling your phone, there's nothing I can suggest. Sorry. = /
[07:02] <Madpilot> PopeOfWar, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:02] <jason_> Personally, it saved me a lot of time. But i only used it to install codecs and a few apps that i would usually install. I hope that hasn't broken anything
[07:02] <jason_> I took it off straight afterwards, anyway
[07:02] <PopeOfWar> rmd_: You *might* lose the ability to restore your system by right-clicking on your desktop, but it rarely happens...
[07:02] <weex> my irda port doesn't seem to want to work, is there some way i can test it?
[07:02] <rmd_> automatix is crap.  try easyubuntu if you have to do something
[07:03] <TheH> anyone can help me with xorg underscan issue?
[07:03] <PopeOfWar> Madpilot: I have no internet connection. I need to download it manually.
[07:03] <weex> easyubuntu worked phor me
[07:03] <bur[n] er> ArrenLex: i tried that... i use a "T-Mobile SDA" which is pretty unique
[07:03] <Schalken> is it possible to recursivley chmod every _folder_ (but no files) in a directory?
[07:03] <bur[n] er> thanks anyway
[07:03] <ArrenLex> burner: sorry. = /
[07:04] <PopeOfWar> Madpilot: I need to donload it so I can compile the drivers to install my NIC, lol
[07:04] <bur[n] er> ArrenLex: no worries, i appreciate the banter about devices though ;)
[07:04] <ArrenLex> Schalken: yes. "sudo chmod -R <code> ."
[07:04] <ArrenLex> Oh.
[07:04] <rmd_> PopeOfWar: the difference, of course, being that i've lost the ability to run my restoration software because of something that ubuntu did that i was unaware of.  your flippant analogy, on the other hand, has no basis in reality.
[07:04] <ArrenLex> Schalken, wait.
[07:04] <Madpilot> PopeOfWar, ah. Messy. archive.ubuntu.com is not made for mere humans to navigate...
[07:04] <TheH> hello
[07:04] <m0`> hi inorder for Firefox to work I have to run, export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS = 1, first in console then firefox after
[07:04] <m0`> How do I do this automatically
[07:05] <m0`> like is there some global exports?
[07:05] <PopeOfWar> rmd_: Why can't you run your installation software? You just pop the disc in and boot from it...
[07:05] <Schalken> ArrenLex: if i give everything permissions 700 it asks if i want to open or execute every file, if i give them permissions 600 i cant open any folders, so i need folders to have 700 and files to have 600.
[07:05] <rmd_> PopeOfWar:  this illustrates the point that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
[07:05] <ladydoor> m0`: you could edit your firefox launcher, or add an alias to your .bashrc...
[07:06] <m0`> ladydoor: .bashrc ahs nothing to do with a program launcher
[07:06] <PopeOfWar> rmd_: I know exatly what I'm talking about... Step 1: Press the power button on your computer. Step 2: Insert your bootable recovery disc. Step 3: RUN THE FRICKIN RECOVERY!!!
[07:06] <ladydoor> m0`: that's why they were two separate options. i don't know what you do to launch your programs.
[07:06] <TheH> Is there a way to use underscan on xorg? to shrink the display video?
[07:07] <AlReece45> PopeOfWar: There is no recovery disk, it is a recovery partion on the hard drive
[07:07] <m0`> ladydoor: I use a launcher
[07:07] <rmd_> PopeOfWar: there is no recovery disk.  the recovery software is on a bootable fat16 partition that grub is unable to load correctly.
[07:07] <PopeOfWar> AlReece45: rmd_: Are you guys running HP computers??
[07:07] <m0`> I need export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS = 1 , inorder for firefox to work
[07:07] <ladydoor> m0`: k, great. there should be a way to edit what command it runs when you're launching.
[07:08] <rmd_> PopeOfWar: that information is irrelevent, unless you're looking for another "reason" to hate the brand
[07:08] <m0`> What do I add in the Command Area?
[07:08] <m0`> export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS = 1 | firefox %u
[07:08] <TheH> Is there a way to use underscan on xorg? to shrink the display video?
[07:08] <m0`> how do I have more than one command in one line
[07:08] <TheH> anyone with a quick tip?
[07:08] <ArrenLex> Scalken: this is a really hacky way. I apologise in advance in how bad at is. I'm sure someone can come up with an infinitely better method.
[07:09] <ArrenLex> Schalken: list=`file * | grep directory | awk '{ print $1 }' | sed 's/://g'` && sudo chmod 700 $list
[07:09] <ladydoor> m0`: i'd suggest a semicolon or "&&"
[07:09] <ladydoor> m0`: (without the quotes)
[07:09] <PopeOfWar> rmd_: I don't need another "reason" to hate the brand... I have already had problems recovering my system from the partition... and not even because I installed something (like Linux), it just randomly crashed...
[07:09] <muhammad> any1 know how to take screenshots during ubuntu installation ?
[07:09] <bruenig> m0' you can either put && which will only do the second command if the first is successful or a semicolon which will do the second regardless
[07:09] <PopeOfWar> Step 1: Firmly swing a hammer into the side of your HP machine. Step 2: Buy a Dell
[07:10] <rmd_> PopeOfWar: I'm running a Dell and I am having the problem.
[07:10] <PopeOfWar> lmao
[07:10] <Xenguy> Schalken: maybe find and xargs would work too
[07:10] <rmd_> jackass
[07:10] <lnxusr> I agree with #1 pope
[07:10] <Schalken> ArrenLex: lol has do be done recursively tho
[07:10] <m0`> bruenig: I did that but it says cannot find application
[07:10] <kishore> can we define our own... commands..
[07:10] <cpw> There!
[07:10] <kishore> for doing particular task..
[07:10] <Xenguy> Schalken: chmod can be done recursively
[07:10] <J-_> I have a HP a450n, Linux works really well. Never going back to windows, it's not even worth the trouble.
[07:10] <PopeOfWar> rmd_: I have never heard of a legitimate Dell machine using a hard drive partition for the system recovery...
[07:10] <bruenig> m0' you did what command? paste the whole thing in here
[07:11] <bruenig> Dell puts spyware on their computer by default
[07:11] <kishore> can we define our own command in shell :(
[07:11] <Madpilot> cpw, Opera's little lurker in the notification area? There's a startup option w/ Opera to stop it, you know.
[07:11] <m0`> bruenig: I am trying to place export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS = 1
[07:11] <bruenig> My Way Search Assistant got to love that. Although if you are going to reformat and install linux, no big deal
[07:11] <cpw> Madpilot: so I found out :P
[07:11] <m0`> bruenig:I need "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS = 1" before openeing firefox
[07:11] <ArrenLex> m0, just do this.
[07:11] <m0`> Thats what I need
[07:11] <rmd_> PopeOfWar: that's odd because there are about a million pages committed to the fact that Dell Inspirons use it.  Try this thing called "Google"
[07:11] <Schalken> Xenguy: yes but i want to recursivley give every folder in a directory certain permissions and every file other permissions
[07:11] <Caplain_> is there a better alternative to nautilus?
[07:11] <ArrenLex> sudo nano /usr/bin/firefox
[07:11] <Madpilot> cpw, best thing Opera did between 9.0 & 9.01 ;)
[07:11] <cpw> Madpilot: it was really annoying because it was this hideous orange color that didn't match my panel at all :/
[07:12] <ladydoor> m0`: right, so insert that plus a semicolon before firefox in your launcher
[07:12] <bruenig> m0' export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS = 1 && /usr/bin/firefox
[07:12] <ArrenLex> m0, Put export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS = 1 on the second line.
[07:12] <Madpilot> cpw, orange? By default it's red in every icon theme I've used.
[07:12] <TheH> Is there a way to use underscan on xorg? to shrink the display video?
[07:12] <Shadowpillar> how do I resize a fat32 partition?
[07:12] <ArrenLex> TheH: NO ONE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT UNDERSCAN. WE CAN'T HELP YOU. GOOGLE IT.
[07:12] <bruenig> I never understood why opera needed to be in the notification panel, thought that odd for a browser
[07:12] <cherubiel> Shadowpillar: gparted is your friend
[07:13] <Xenguy> Schalken: if you just want to set all dir's with a perm, and all files with the same perm, then it is easy -- otherwise, maybe it is not so easy to automate :-)
[07:13] <PopeOfWar> rmd_: Okay, you're right, I had it mistaken for another brand... but it should've also come with a recovery disc... and I know FOR SURE that you can get one for probably $5-$10 by calling them... that simple...
[07:13] <TheH> thx I have google italready
[07:13] <m0`> ArrenLex: Thanks !!!! :)
[07:13] <m0`> ArrenLex: Why didn't I think of that :)
[07:13] <Madpilot> bruenig, file a bug w/ opera complaining about it. If enough people yell, maybe it'll go away for good...
[07:13] <ArrenLex> Schalken, the command I gave you will do it.
[07:13] <TheH> no luck
[07:13] <bruenig> TheH, try the forums, I have always found good advice there ubuntuforums.org
[07:13] <m0`> Now My FLASH doesn't crash Firefox!
[07:14] <ArrenLex> Schalken, to make it run for files only, replace "grep" with "grep -v"
[07:14] <TheH> sounds good, Thank you !
[07:14] <Schalken> ArrenLex: okay i will try
[07:14] <Xenguy> Schalken: the logic is you 'find' all dirs, then use 'xargs' to chmod a perm
[07:15] <ArrenLex> Xenguy: he said he wants all folders 600 and all files 700.
[07:15] <tropobot> hello ppl - im new here
[07:15] <PopeOfWar> Madpilot: Do you know how to download the build-essential files? Because the site isn't even mad for superior beings like me to navigate... lol
[07:15] <ArrenLex> Madpilot, apt-get install build-essential.
[07:15] <Schalken> Xenguy: i dont have a perm :p
[07:15] <ArrenLex> Or find the package in synaptic.
[07:15] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: then that is easy with find/xargs
[07:15] <Madpilot> PopeOfWar, I've no idea. ArrenLex, he can't connect his Ubuntu system to the web...
[07:16] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: but your solution was quite creative
[07:16] <ArrenLex> Xenguy: guide me with your infinite wisdom, sensei.
[07:16] <ArrenLex> Xenguy: I always love learning new shortcuts.
[07:16] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: aww, don't go all sarcastic on me now :-)
[07:16] <Shadowpillar> cherubiel: yeah I figured that one out rather quickly :P
[07:16] <ArrenLex> Xenguy, no, I'm serious! Tell me how.
[07:16] <Madpilot> PopeOfWar, I think that b-e can be installed from the alternative installer CD
[07:16] <Shadowpillar> cherubiel: is it possible to resize ext3 without damage?
[07:16] <ArrenLex> Madpilot, if you can't connect to the web, download it from packages.ubuntu.com
[07:16] <cherubiel> Shadowpillar: non-destructive,
[07:17] <PopeOfWar> Madpilot: I've had this problem for 4 days, and I already know what to do... but how to do it? I haven't a clue...
[07:17] <Madpilot> ArrenLex, you need to talk to PopeOfWar, he's the one with the problem
[07:17] <Shadowpillar> cherubiel: ?
[07:17] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: find . -type d |xargs chmod -R 700
[07:17] <jmartini> ArrenLex: find . -type d | xargs chmod 600
[07:17] <cherubiel> Howdy PopeOfWar!
[07:17] <PopeOfWar> Howdy cherubiel!
[07:17] <jmartini> d'oh make that 700 for the directories
[07:17] <ArrenLex> Awesome. I'll make a mental note of that. Thanks xenguy and jmartini!
[07:18] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: yw
[07:18] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: I'm glad you're here, because you already know all about my problem, lmao... how do I download the fracking build-essential from packages.ubuntu.com??
[07:18] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: did you follow the steps i mentioned yday? about d/w the dependencies?
[07:18] <jmartini> Xenguy: I'm a little concerned by that -R in your version, won't that walk down hit the files as well?
[07:19] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: installing them and then proceeding to the main package? btw, if you had the installation cd, it should be easier
[07:19] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: That's the thing... I can't figure out how to download *anything*!!! lol
[07:19] <lnxusr> 822 people in here only 10 or so are  talking
[07:19] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: I don't have the installation cd... it was a download, then put on the cd
[07:19] <cherubiel> you mean, you have the ISO ?
[07:19] <Xenguy> jmartini: no, just the dir's -- but recursively, yes
[07:20] <Xenguy> jmartini: the 'find' filters to just dir's
[07:20] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel... yeah
[07:20] <ArrenLex> Xenguy: it will hit all the files WITHIN the dirs.
[07:20] <tropobot> i have an old system - a P2 with 128 MB of RAM - I've installed Ubuntu on it. [ http://shekhars.livejournal.com/1373.html ] 
[07:20] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: Does that have everything on it?
[07:20] <tropobot> i have a problem with display resolution
[07:20] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: and you've burnt it too? then why don't you add it to the sources.lst, and do an apt-get install build-essentail
[07:20] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: no, I don't think so -- that is what '-type d' is for
[07:21] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: whatever you need now, it has.
[07:21] <jmartini> Xenguy: right but when you pass that to chmod -R it's going to grab the first dir and walk down it doing the chmod on everything it finds
[07:21] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: I hate people who are smarter than me...
[07:21] <jmartini> Then the second
[07:21] <Xenguy> jmartini: no -- try a test, you will see
[07:21] <PopeOfWar> lmao
[07:21] <ArrenLex> Xenguy: the type d just means that it won't mod the files in your current directory. But it WILL recurse over the files in the folders you're chmodding.
[07:21] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: nothing beer can't help solve ;)
[07:22] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: that has not been my experience, but 2 people seem to disagree with me at the moment :-)
[07:22] <tropobot> no matter what I do, resolution won't go beyond 640x480 - my 14 inch samtron sc 428vs+ e is capable of displaying max res. of 800x600 -- anyone know anything about this?
[07:22] <lnxusr> tropobot what resolution
[07:22] <Madpilot> !fixres
[07:22] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:22] <lnxusr> oh 640 x480
[07:22] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: Too bad I'm only 14, lmao
[07:22] <Madpilot> tropobot, check the last URL above there
[07:22] <tropobot> lnxusr: yes
[07:22] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: :O
[07:22] <tropobot> looking...
[07:22] <ArrenLex> Xenguy: I just tested it.
[07:23] <lnxusr> can you edit the xorg config file
[07:23] <ArrenLex> ls -l: -rw-r--r-- 1 alex alex    0 2006-09-23 23:22 file2 drwxr-xr-x 2 alex alex 4096 2006-09-23 23:22 Folder
[07:23] <ArrenLex> > run find . -type d |xargs chmod -R 777
[07:23] <lnxusr> add your owmn modlines in there
[07:23] <ArrenLex> ls -l: -rwxrwxrwx 1 alex alex    0 2006-09-23 23:22 file2 , drwxrwxrwx 2 alex alex 4096 2006-09-23 23:22 Folder
[07:23] <ArrenLex> Read it and weep.
[07:23] <tropobot> how?
[07:24] <lnxusr> well 1st are familer with xorg.conf
[07:24] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: hrm, obviously I will have to test this myself
[07:24] <yarddog> whats the command to see if dri is working?
[07:24] <jmartini> Xenguy: hate to say it, you're wrong
[07:24] <Madpilot> lnxusr, check http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:25] <tropobot> yes - im familiar
[07:25] <tropobot> what do i do
[07:25] <ArrenLex> Xenguy: the problem is that find type -d also returns the current directory, "."
[07:25] <ArrenLex> And when chmod recurses over "." it also hits all the files in .
[07:26] <Madpilot> tropobot, sorry - check the URL I just gave to lnxusr
[07:26] <gnopgnip> is it easy to network with win2k and winxp?
[07:26] <ArrenLex> jmartini: confirmed that your way works.
[07:27] <ArrenLex> gnopgnip: yes, pretty easy. You need to install samba.
[07:27] <lnxusr> yes the url goes over in detail  tropobot thanks madpilot
[07:27] <PopeOfWar> Where is the sources.lst file... or whatever it was? And how do I add my install cd to it?
[07:28] <ArrenLex> PopeofWar: "apt-cdrom --help" will tell you all you need to know.
[07:28] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: confirmed.  Thanks, I learned something new tonight :-)
[07:29] <PopeOfWar> Wait... can't I just use the package manager that opened from the cd to install build-essential?
[07:29] <Xenguy> jmartini: confirmed - it happens :-)
[07:29] <ArrenLex> Xen: we all did. I learned how to use find to get directories, you learned that find returns "." and jmartini learned that being smart earns him cookies.
[07:29] <lnxusr> madpilot u run other versions of Linux  besides ubuntu
[07:29] <Madpilot> lnxusr, no
[07:29] <aalex> hi
[07:29] <lnxusr> oh just curious
[07:29] <jmartini> Xenguy: yeah chmod isn't picky about the arg list when you use -R and goes to work on the files too
[07:30] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: The Synaptic Package Manager opened when I put my Ubuntu cd in... can't I just install build-essential from that? And will it automatically install the dependencies, too?
[07:30] <ArrenLex> PopeOfWar: if you can get it to work, and build-essential is on there, yes and yes.
[07:30] <Madpilot> PopeOfWar, it should, yes
[07:30] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: go ahead.
[07:30] <aalex> does anyone here have a problem installing ffmpeg on dapper ? it is weird. it needs some versions of libc6 and libsdl1.2debian
[07:31] <Xenguy> jmartini: I wonder if that means you just need to change the 'dir' name from '.' to the specific directory name?
[07:31] <PopeOfWar> Ok, but I only need to install build-essential... I don't need to track down the dependencies, correct?
[07:31] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: apt is your friend, it does all that for ya
[07:31] <PopeOfWar> They will be put on there automatically...
[07:31] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: right.
[07:31] <PopeOfWar> ok, tahnk you
[07:31] <ArrenLex> Xen: find Folder/ -type d -> Folder/
[07:31] <gnopgnip> but with samba don't you have to download it and be part of a network
[07:31] <PopeOfWar> thank*
[07:31] <ArrenLex> Xen: that'll work.
[07:31] <ArrenLex> Xen: that won't work.
[07:32] <ArrenLex> Xen: chmod -R will recurse over all the files in Folder/ anyway.
[07:32] <ArrenLex> Xen: you CANNOT do this if you run chmod with -R
[07:32] <jmartini> Xenguy: Nope, chmod will take the first directory in the arg list and process `chmod -R dir` which will chmod the files in it too
[07:32] <PopeOfWar> It's installing! One more step towards intenetness!
[07:32] <PopeOfWar> internetness*
[07:32] <ArrenLex> Yay internetness.
[07:32] <Xenguy> jmartini: confirmed; doesn't work either
[07:32] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> hey guys. what are unmet dependencies?
[07:32] <anubis> i need some help, this is my first time ever using linux, i want to instal XFCE as my Desktop Enviroment, can someboy help me?
[07:33] <ArrenLex> Punjabi: some packages depend on other packages to function.
[07:33] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Arren: i get this when trying to install Xgl Compiz
[07:33] <Xenguy> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: that's why synaptic is your best friend
[07:33] <anubis> i need some help, this is my first time ever using linux, i want to instal XFCE as my Desktop Enviroment, can someboy help me?
[07:34] <cherubiel> anubis: enable univers repo, apt-get isntall xfce4
[07:34] <ArrenLex> anubis: have you already installed ubuntu or are you just approaching it? What state is your system in?
[07:34] <Xenguy> anubis: unless you have older hardware, maybe you want to just stick with gnome for awhile - it can be a little easier in the beginning
[07:34] <ArrenLex> anubis: if you haven't installed ubuntu yet, just download xubuntu rather than ubuntu.
[07:34] <cpw> I somehow got into an endless loop with that
[07:34] <anubis> its installed
[07:35] <ArrenLex> anubis: you are running gnome?
[07:35] <cpw> I went to add/remove programs, told me I needed to enable the commercial component
[07:35] <anubis> i have older hardware
[07:35] <cpw> I said ok.. it did some stuff, prompted me again.. I said ok, it did some stuff, prompted me again
[07:35] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guys how to install this Xgl stuff
[07:35] <anubis> im barely starting im triying thisn on an spare P3 i have, if it works ill install it in my core2duo
[07:35] <PopeOfWar> ArrenLex: yay
[07:35] <PopeOfWar> lol
[07:35] <ArrenLex> Punjabi, what problems are you having?
[07:35] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> the #ubuntu-xgl doesnthelp at al
[07:35] <anubis> but right now performance if aweful
[07:36] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Arren: tell me some good guide to install Xgl
[07:36] <Xenguy> anubis: xfce can probably help that...
[07:36] <cpw> you don't need xgl, you've got ubuntu
[07:36] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i need more eye candy
[07:36] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: Now I do the ./configure&&make, right?
[07:36] <Xenguy> anubis: tho some apps (e.g. OOo) are just impossible on older hardware
[07:36] <ArrenLex> Punjabi: if apt-get install xserver-xgl isn't good enough for you, try google.
[07:36] <ArrenLex> !xgl
[07:36] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:36] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: go ahead dude.
[07:36] <anubis> i know, thats why i wanna try it
[07:36] <cpw> You just tell people "I use ubuntu", children laugh, the clouds part and sunshine comes out, and world peace ensues
[07:36] <anubis> ok first , how do i enable the universal repositories
[07:36] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> cpw: lol
[07:36] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: Ok, it still says bash: ./configure: No such file or directory...
[07:37] <lnxusr> good one cpw
[07:37] <Xenguy> !repos > anubis
 you don't need xgl, you've got ubuntu.........>what??
[07:37] <Madpilot> anubis, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[07:37] <Geoffrey2> one of these days I'll figure out why they have a Wine support channel on here, when every inquiry about whether a program will work invariably leads to a response of..."why bother, just use a Linux program"
[07:37] <ArrenLex> bruenig: I think cpw is drunk.
[07:37] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> it says on the page:The compiz repositories are currently broken - DO NOT INSTALL
[07:37] <anubis> kk brb ty
[07:37] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> what does this mean
[07:37] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ?>
[07:37] <bruenig> That doesn't make even the slightest amount of sense
[07:37] <cpw> no, just really tired :/
[07:37] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: follow instructions in your README/INSTALL
[07:37] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: something we can help you with, or just a random comment?
[07:37] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: drunk with ubuntu-looooooovvvvvveeeee :P
[07:37] <cpw> I was fighting with Japanese input all day
[07:38] <ArrenLex> Xenguy: I actually hate ubuntu.
[07:38] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Arren: why so?>
[07:38] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: awww, and after all that fine help too ;-)
[07:38] <Geoffrey2> I was trying to find out if there was any Windows based DVD player that would run under Wine
[07:38] <ArrenLex> Punjabi: I love Debian.
[07:38] <lnxusr> arrenlex runs Fedora core 5 ?
[07:38] <Geoffrey2> apparently the answer to that is still no
[07:38] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> lol. But ubuntu is based on debian
[07:38] <lnxusr> cool
[07:39] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: can you tell me why you want to run a windows-based DVD player?
[07:39] <Xenguy> .oO(Debian is my first love :P )
[07:39] <lnxusr> anybody run the real mcoy Debian sarge etch or sid ?
[07:39] <bruenig> Geoffrey2, why bother, just use a linux program
[07:39] <cpw> I have a debian mailserver running dovecot
[07:39] <ArrenLex> Punjabi: yes, I know that, duh. But ubuntu is basically debian + whorishness of name
[07:39] <Madpilot> ArrenLex, Ubuntu is Debian. Just browner & better.
[07:39] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Arren: Maybe you can suggest how to instal Xgl
[07:39] <Xenguy> lnxusr: I used to - props to Debian
[07:40] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i need a step by step tutorial. help me! its for my gf :)
[07:40] <bruenig> browner...a lovely change...
[07:40] <ArrenLex> The only reason I run ubuntu is because of a bug that made it into Debian Testing with libpango that stopped rendering text in GTK applications and made my system unusable.
[07:40] <PopeOfWar> *ahh* I am so sorry I am being such a noob and bothering you, lol, but the Makefile isn't working...
[07:40] <lnxusr> I am on Debian Etch
[07:40] <cpw> I'm on Etch too
[07:40] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: a broken source?
[07:40] <cpw> it runs on a 233mhz with 128MB of ram and 3Gigs of disk space!
[07:40] <Geoffrey2> um, because there's not a single Linux DVD player out there that will play commercial DVDs without circumventing copyright protection...and even if a majority of the Linux community sees no problem with that, I do....
[07:41] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: I don't know... nothing really seems to happen when I run it...
[07:41] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> people please help me isntalling Xgl
[07:41] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: do you see a configure file in the folder?
[07:41] <cpw> ArrenLex: maybe both?
[07:41] <hantu> !xgl
[07:41] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:41] <Madpilot> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, #ubuntu-xgl
[07:41] <cpw> PopeOfWar: also, do you see a configure.in file?
[07:41] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Madpilot: what does ths mean:The compiz repositories are currently broken - DO NOT INSTALL
[07:42] <bruenig> Geoffrey2, did you pay for the windows dvd players you want to use?
[07:42] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: Three files in the folder... "fa311v2.c" "Makefile" and "readme.txt"
[07:42] <Madpilot> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, um, that something is not working and you shouldn't install xgl, probably...
[07:42] <cpw> run make
[07:42] <bruenig> windvd or what not
[07:42] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> madpilot: but why so
[07:42] <Madpilot> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, I have no idea, I don't run XGL.
[07:43] <Geoffrey2> bruenig, now that you mention it, I do have a copy of Nero I paid for..
[07:43] <C_BASS> hi, im trying to become a ubuntu user but im having some problem with hardware compatibility
[07:43] <ArrenLex> Punjabi: because the packages are currently broken, it seems to say.
[07:43] <C_BASS> can someone help me pleasse?
[07:43] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: Nero cannot play CDs.
[07:43] <PopeOfWar> !someone
[07:43] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:43] <ArrenLex> CDs -> DVDs
[07:43] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Arren: THanks.
[07:43] <MugginsM> I use Linux DVD players because the Windows ones refuse to play half my DVDs
[07:43] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> but one think I have found out. People dont recommend Xgl
[07:43] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> god knows why
[07:43] <bruenig> Geoffrey2, there you go. You paid for them.
[07:43] <C_BASS> can someone help me please?
[07:43] <cpw> Most people use the linux dvd player "Bittorrent"
[07:43] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> C_BASS: ask please
[07:44] <ArrenLex> cpw: Discuss that with Shawn Hogan.
[07:44] <Madpilot> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, ask on #ubuntu-xgl, that is the best channel to find out what's broken
[07:44] <C_BASS> im haing hardware compatibility issues
[07:44] <jmartini> MugginsM: You can get half of them to work? My DVD software quit after a patch to the OS and I just threw up my hands and walked away
[07:44] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Madpilot: already there :)
[07:44] <C_BASS> do you know if a voodoo 3dfx works with ubuntu?
[07:44] <PopeOfWar> !someone > C_BASS
[07:45] <Geoffrey2> ArrenLex, Nero for Linux...no...Nero for Windows, however, definitely can play DVDs
[07:45] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> C_BASS: You want to enable 3d acceleration?
[07:45] <lnxusr> nice talking to everyone just Remember what vista stants for Virus Infections Spyware Trojans Adware bye all
[07:45] <C_BASS> no
[07:45] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> then why do u want to test that?
[07:45] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: Look at it this way. DVDs are encrypted so you don't copy them and rip them.
[07:45] <C_BASS> i want to know if my video card works with ubuntu
[07:45] <rmd_> i can't wait to spend half my day installing windows *and* ubuntu
[07:45] <bruenig> Geoffrey2, so get libdvdcss and get on with it, you have paid yours
[07:45] <Xenguy> lnxusr: nice
[07:45] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: if you bought the DVD, it is legal to watch it. Not to copy or distribute it, but to watch it.
[07:45] <PopeOfWar> C_BASS: Try it with the Live CD...
[07:45] <MugginsM> DVDs are encrypted to make us pay lots more for them, not to protect them
[07:45] <C_BASS> well i dont have any cds yet
[07:46] <ArrenLex> C_Bass: did you already install ubuntu?
[07:46] <PopeOfWar> rmd_ Windows only takes about a half-hour to install... and Ubuntu only takes about 0 minutes...
[07:46] <C_BASS> im just looking to see if my system will work with ubuntu
[07:46] <PopeOfWar> 10 minutes...
[07:46] <bruenig> MugginsM, protection is needed to make people pay a lot more for them
[07:46] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> try running a live CD Then
[07:46] <C_BASS> no
[07:46] <Caplain_> how do i switch from gcc 4.x to 3.x?
[07:46] <Madpilot> C_BASS, if you've got a burner, you can download the ISO & burn yourself a LiveCD...
[07:46] <munkay> C_BASS: easiest way, run the live cd and copy the xorg.conf file, works all the time :D
[07:46] <jmartini> C_BASS: burn a copy of the live cd and boot off it
[07:46] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Caplain: Synaptic
[07:47] <cpw> ArrenLex: wow, that guy sounds bored
[07:47] <MugginsM> bruenig: yes, and also to ensure that those of us not in the US pay 3x the price
[07:47] <bruenig> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, synaptic wouldn't have two versions of gcc
[07:47] <PopeOfWar> C_BASS: ^^See above^^ lmao
[07:47] <C_BASS> hmm ok
[07:47] <ArrenLex> cpw: what guy is this now?
[07:47] <C_BASS> lol
[07:47] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> bruenig: It has on my PC
[07:47] <Caplain_> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: oh just install version 3.x?
[07:47] <cpw> ArrenLex: through a couple of million at a lawsuit?  Why not, it's a sunny tuesday!
[07:47] <cpw> ArrenLex: this Shawn Hogan fellow
[07:47] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Caplain: I didnt have gcc installed as default with ubuntu
[07:47] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> but now its installed using synaptic
[07:47] <ArrenLex> cpw: he's not bored, he's fighting against what he believes is an abuse of power.
[07:47] <anubis> i just realised im using ubunto 5.04 if i wanted dapper, whad do i need to do, download and reinstall?
[07:48] <ArrenLex> anubis: no! just upgrade.
[07:48] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> to test whether gcc is installed, go to terminal and type gcc --version
[07:48] <bruenig> MugginsM, what base price are you saying we pay 3x more than and just to make sure, we are talking about movies not the removable media
[07:48] <ArrenLex> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade or use synaptic.
[07:48] <anubis> apt-get upgrade?
[07:48] <Madpilot> anubis, you'd need to upgrade to 5.10, then to 6.06
[07:48] <MugginsM> bruenig: DVDs in the stores here are about US $20
[07:48] <anubis> pls tell me how if you are so kind
[07:48] <MugginsM> $30 for a new release
[07:48] <bruenig> MugginsM, and why do you say it is more?
[07:48] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> how do i check which version m i running?
[07:48] <ArrenLex> anubis, I just said: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade or use synaptic.
[07:49] <anubis> ok thanks
[07:49] <Madpilot> anubis, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:49] <MugginsM> bruenig: I can get them for a lot less if I buy from Amazon, but then commercial DVD players won't play them
[07:49] <munkay> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: gcc is a symlink to the version currently used, do a ls -l `which gcc`
[07:49] <Xenguy> anubis: read the web page
[07:49] <cpw> https for a wiki?
[07:49] <ArrenLex> cpw: the upgrade notes are SECRET!
[07:50] <ArrenLex> cpw: you shouldn't even be seeing them. They're classified by the FBI.
[07:50] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: I think my problem might be... my NEW_INCLUDE_PATH isn't specified right...
[07:50] <PopeOfWar> What would
[07:50] <ArrenLex> cpw: if you ever tell anyone we showed you the 6.06 release notes, we will have to kill you.
[07:50] <PopeOfWar> i sorry, what would I set that to?
[07:50] <weex> yeah https means everything doesn't go straight to the fbi for processing
[07:50] <PopeOfWar> weex: It goes to the *cia* stupid, lol
[07:50] <Xenguy> better yet, just encrypt everything
[07:51] <weex> btw is basic auth + https enough?
[07:51] <weex> i work for the fbi and want to protect my sensitive data ;-)
[07:51] <ArrenLex> Everyone run! Weex works for the FBI!
[07:51] <Madpilot> cpw, https because people log in to edit it
[07:51] <nalioth> !offtopic
[07:51] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:51] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: i still *don't* know where you're stuck, you ran the make command and says it broke - give us output -
[07:51] <weex> kidding i must say
[07:52] <terryubuntu> hello people - just installed ubuntu & have a minor problem - wondering if anyone may be able to help - screen related
[07:52] <ArrenLex> !ask
[07:52] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:52] <nalioth> ArrenLex: can we keep our discussion to Ubuntu support?
[07:52] <ArrenLex> nalioth: but that would be boring. We do help people. Let us have fun too.
[07:52] <nalioth> ArrenLex: "Fun" is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:53] <ArrenLex> Nalioth: I figure for every two people I give hacky bad scripts to, I can run away from the FBI in mock terror once.
[07:53] <ArrenLex> nalioth: "nailoth" is #ubuntu-boring
[07:53] <Xenguy> It seems like a reasonable ratio
[07:53] <weex> !ontopic
[07:53] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:53] <terryubuntu> ok - during & after installation, I had a bright line of about 8-10 pixels down the left hand side opf screen - black bar on right hand side of about 30 pixels
[07:53] <terryubuntu> mboard is msi 945GM2
[07:54] <terryubuntu> screen is lg stuidoworks 55V
[07:54] <ArrenLex> ...
[07:54] <jason_> argh, how can i turn off this spellcheck on all my textboxes?
[07:54] <Caplain_> reading file lists in nautilus is taking a really long time, is there a way to fix this?
[07:54] <terryubuntu> changing screen res doesn't do anything apart from change res - incorrect driver?
[07:54] <bruenig> Caplain_, go to Applications>Accessories>Terminal
[07:55] <bruenig> then do ls directory
[07:55] <jmartini> Caplain_: learn to read faster?
[07:55] <weex> !attemptedjoke
[07:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about attemptedjoke - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:55] <PopeOfWar> Ok... I ran the ./configure&&make command (when I was CDed to the proper directory, I might add), it returned "bash: ./configure: No such file or directory"... so I decided to try the file name that I need to compile, I entered "./fa311v2.c&&make" returned "bash: ./fa311v2.c: Permision denied" I tried "sudo ./fa311v2.c&&make" returned "sudo: ./fa311v2.c: command not found" I'm stuck in a...
[07:55] <PopeOfWar> ...bind here, and I have no clue how to get out
[07:55] <nalioth> PopeOfWar: join #ubuntu-classroom please
[07:56] <PopeOfWar> nalioth: why?
[07:56] <Xenguy> PopeOfWar: because it is more fun that #ubuntu-boring
[07:56] <ArrenLex> XD!
[07:57] <terryubuntu> !ask
[07:57] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:57] <Caplain_> bruenig: hmmm i guess the terminal would be better, get a C.L.U.E>?
[07:58] <jason_> Anyone know how to turn off this spellchecker on every textbox? i don't know how it got on here
[07:58] <jason_> it's on everything, even XChat
[07:58] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: nalioth wants to see is he/she can help... and #ubuntu-classroom is a lot quiter than in here...
[07:58] <homer_linux> hiya ppl whats the command for stoping X form the terminal
[07:58] <bruenig> jason_, how do you get spell check in xchat, I want that
[07:58] <Neo8750> homer_linux: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:58] <Neo8750> or
[07:59] <jmartini> Caplain_: do you mean that nautilus is slow to read and display directory contents as compared to just and ls in a terminal?
[07:59] <jason_> bruenig: Something's been installed.. i don't know why it's doing this
[07:59] <bruenig> jason_, is the spell check accurate?
[07:59] <ArrenLex> PopeOfWar: I'm pretty sure nalioth is an ubuntu developer trying to restore order to the list by kicking off one of the 10 of the 815 people who answer questions.
[07:59] <jason_> the textfield control (universal) has been modified on every program that uses it.
[07:59] <Neo8750> homer_linux: /etc/init.d/x11-common stop
[07:59] <jason_> it's accurate, yes
[07:59] <Neo8750> not sure
[07:59] <jason_> But i want it off.
[07:59] <bruenig> cool, if you figure out how it got on, please tell
[07:59] <jason_> I will
[08:00] <terryubuntu> actually, never mind - seems screen settings were way off compared to windows - screen shift has fixed it up - bizarre
[08:00] <Neo8750> hmmm
[08:00] <weex> is there some way to allow apps that only look at local drives to also look at samba/windows shares?
[08:01] <sh1> hey.l.
[08:01] <Neo8750> weex: mount the share and browse that way
[08:01] <jmartini> weex: mount them on your filesystem and they are transparently read just as if they were local
[08:01] <Shogran> new issue  yay!
[08:01] <terryubuntu> i do have another question though - possibly an ubuntu bug - if i move the mouse at a normal clip to the bottom of the screen, the screen scrolls up, but goes completely black
[08:01] <Shogran> tottally cant get svideo to run
[08:01] <terryubuntu> if i move it slowly, it scrolls down to the taskbar
[08:01] <Neo8750> sudo mount -o smbfs //computer/share /mount/point
[08:02] <Shogran> shows the boot screen clone, then ubuntu boot.. then bam.. soon as it lets me log in.. no dice.. no screen
[08:02] <Caplain_> jmartini: correct, and it usually locks up
[08:03] <Shogran> heyyo?
[08:04] <Shogran> okay..
[08:04] <jason_> whats that opengl GUI called? Xgf?
[08:05] <compwiz18> xgl?
[08:05] <terryubuntu> is there a hardware temp monitoring utility on a standard ubuntu install?
[08:05] <jmartini> Caplain_: how many entries in the directory are we talking about?
[08:05] <Shogran> ... cool im just gonna wait till somone who helped mebefore hops in
[08:05] <compwiz18> can someone help me with nm-applet and wpa?
[08:06] <jason_> ah, thats it
[08:07] <Caplain_> jmartini: about 10
[08:07] <jmartini> Caplain_: have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6438 . That may address the issue or get you pointed in the right direction
[08:07] <Shogran> can anyone help me set up S-video
[08:07] <Madpilot> terryubuntu, sensors aren't that hard to set up, usually
[08:07] <Madpilot> terryubuntu, have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[08:07] <terryubuntu> thx madpilot
[08:07] <jmartini> Caplain_: its an old old article though
[08:08] <terryubuntu> madpilot - did you happen to see my quest6ion about screen scrolling?
[08:08] <sh1> sorry bout dad
[08:08] <sh1> dat^
[08:09] <Madpilot> terryubuntu, the 'screen goes completely black' question? Yes, and I've no idea what to suggest... sorry.
[08:09] <terryubuntu> bizarre - sometimes it goes completely bright grey too - very random
[08:09] <terryubuntu> thanks anyway
[08:10] <unfknblvbl> !jar
[08:10] <compwiz18> hello
[08:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:10] <ryctor> dudes
[08:10] <unfknblvbl> !rar
[08:10] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:10] <Caplain_> jmartini: ill check it out, thx
[08:11] <Shogran> !s-video
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about s-video - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <Shogran> !svideo
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about svideo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <ryctor> i cant play dvds in ububtu, mediaplayer skips and give me a bunch of squares in colors and xine tell me i need libdvdcss which is not in the pkgs
[08:11] <compwiz18> you need to google libdvdcss
[08:12] <ryctor> will do
[08:12] <kendals> When I use Nautilus 'connecto a server' for FTP, how do I get the 'preparing to copy' window to show me a progress bar?
[08:12] <kendals> There is no indication of how much I have copied, etc... :(
[08:12] <compwiz18> there should be a rebo for libdvdcss out there, otherwise try automatix, it works well for setting up all that protected stuff
[08:13] <Xenguy> jmartini: after all that, the solution is to simply do the dirs first, and then do the files after -- done :-)
[08:13] <compwiz18> but no one can help me with network-managed and wpa_supplicant?
[08:13] <nalioth> compwiz18: please don't advise that.  libdvdcss is in the repos.
[08:13] <compwiz18> really?
[08:13] <compwiz18> sry, i didn't know that
[08:14] <jmartini> Xenguy: right, first do `find . -type d | xargs chmod 700` and then `find . -type f | xargs chmod 600`
[08:15] <Xenguy> jmartini: so I'm not completely mad afterall
[08:15] <lastnode> compwiz18, automatix is not advocated by this channel
[08:15] <jmartini> Xenguy: not entirely it seems
[08:15] <compwiz18> ok, sorry
[08:15] <Xenguy> jmartini: disappointing - I'll try harder :-)
[08:15] <m0dY> does apt-get records the currently installed pkgs in some registry file ?
[08:15] <kendals> When I use Nautilus 'connecto a server' for FTP, how do I get the 'preparing to copy' window to show me a progress bar?
[08:15] <ArrenLex> m0dY: no. You should look into apt-history, but you have to install it.
[08:16] <ArrenLex> Not apt-history. Hold on.
[08:16] <m0dY> ArrenLex: i think there should be some file or a db which it's writing the pkgs status into on my system..!
[08:16] <Neo8750> does anyone know of a project that programed progress bars into cli programs like cp
[08:17] <hastesaver> m0dY, try apt-cache policy
[08:17] <jmartini> Neo8750: some like scp already have it
[08:17] <hastesaver> m0dY, Is "apt-cache policy <packagename>" what you want?
[08:18] <m0dY> well, what i want and i've been searching all over google for is.. i wanna do some pkgs blacklisting from being installed/updated/upgraded through apt-get..
[08:18] <jmartini> Neo8750: but generally it isn't very useful. Better to just run it in the background
[08:18] <m0dY> yum pkg manager in redhat like systems have this excluding options..
[08:18] <ArrenLex> m0dY: I think you want apt-pinning.
[08:18] <m0dY> and please don't tell me look for pinning =(
[08:19] <ArrenLex> Why don't you like pinning? xD
[08:19] <surface-> ?
[08:19] <m0dY> well, i think pinning just prevent the pkgs from being updated and in some cases could be bypassed
[08:20] <m0dY> plus, ivn't got any "apt-pinning" pkg in my repo :)
[08:20] <ArrenLex> m0dY: pinning allows you to hold a package at a specific version, source, revision, etc. It allows you to specify which package versions can and cannot be installed. I think it's what you want.
[08:20] <ArrenLex> m0dy, pinning is done through the /etc/apt/preferences file
[08:20] <ArrenLex> http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
[08:21] <m0dY> so can i do it recursively for something like blocking all apache version, without telling exactly which versions to block
[08:21] <aceracer24> Anyone willing to help me figure out why nautilus crashes all th time on Edgy?
[08:21] <[NP] Tangent> uh help
[08:22] <ArrenLex> You mean, you installed your own version of apache and you don't want ubuntu to upgrade?
[08:22] <[NP] Tangent> my sound just completely went out
[08:22] <[NP] Tangent> reboot didn't help
[08:22] <Xenguy> aceracer24: debian? yer in the wrong room I think
[08:22] <m0dY> ArrenLex: EXACTLY :D
[08:22] <compwiz18> can someone point me to the guidelines for this irc channel?
[08:22] <[NP] Tangent> I mean
[08:22] <[NP] Tangent> ALL sound is gone
[08:22] <aceracer24> Xenguy: what room should I be in then?
[08:22] <m0dY> that's why i want some pkgs related to apache not to be installed by *ANY* way
[08:22] <aceracer24> This is Ubuntu room right?
[08:23] <Xenguy> aceracer24: #debian?
[08:23] <Xenguy> aceracer24: oh sorry
[08:23] <ArrenLex> m0dY: there are several ways to approach this. Firstly, did you install apache from source or as a package?
[08:23] <aceracer24> why would support for Edgy Eft be in debian?
[08:23] <Xenguy> aceracer24: I guess I'm on crack then
[08:23] <aceracer24> lol
[08:23] <Xenguy> aceracer24: seriously, I got confused with Etch :P
[08:23] <m0dY> ArrenLex: a source pkg
[08:23] <m0dY> not a .deb
[08:23] <aceracer24> hehe no worries
[08:23] <[NP] Tangent> surely my sound card hasn't died on me all of a sudden
[08:24] <[NP] Tangent> this is a laptop, the built in speakers don't work, the headphone jack doesn't work
[08:24] <ArrenLex> m0dY: look into the equivs package.
[08:24] <hastesaver> aceracer24, try #ubuntu+1 ?
[08:24] <ryctor> done
[08:24] <m0dY> equivs !?
[08:24] <PopeOfWar> [NP] Tangent: Surely your sound card has died all of a sudden.
[08:24] <aceracer24> hastesaver: thanks, I'll check it out
[08:24] <ryctor> installed libdvdcss2 and presto
[08:25] <ArrenLex> Yes, m0dY. Read all about it: apt-cache show equivs"
[08:25] <[NP] Tangent> PopeOfWar, it just worked 5 minutes ago
[08:25] <[NP] Tangent> now all of a sudden it doesn't
[08:25] <m0dY> ArrenLex: reading now :)
[08:25] <Ruckus> [NP] Tangent, maybe another application is blocking it from working?
[08:25] <ArrenLex> NP, what happens if you go /etc/init.d/alsa-utils force-reload
[08:25] <[NP] Tangent> it didn't make any popping noises or anything
[08:25] <PopeOfWar> [NP] Tangent: Funny, my friend fried his sound card about 20 minutes ago, too, lmao
[08:26] <compwiz18> no one knows how to do wpa_supplicant and network-manager?
[08:26] <[NP] Tangent> !pastebin
[08:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:26] <Neo-zZzZ> nn
[08:27] <compwiz18> !wpa_supplicant
[08:27] <ubotu> wpasupplicant: Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i). In component main, is important. Version 0.4.8-3ubuntu1.1 (dapper), package size 195 kB, installed size 532 kB
[08:27] <compwiz18> !network-manager
[08:27] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[08:27] <PopeOfWar> [NP] Tangent: Ascend to the top of a 15-story building. Locate a window. Open said window. Place laptop through window. Release laptop.
[08:27] <PopeOfWar> lol
[08:27] <[NP] Tangent> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24615
[08:27] <[NP] Tangent> that link's for ArrenLex
[08:28] <ArrenLex> NP: I know this advice will hurt you deeply, but how about... rebooting?
[08:28] <[NP] Tangent> I just did that
[08:28] <[NP] Tangent> no luck
[08:28] <PopeOfWar> ArrenLex: That was cold, man...
[08:28] <PopeOfWar> lmao
[08:28] <ArrenLex> Pope, I know, I know...
[08:29] <m0dY> ArrenLex: equivs is far from what i want.. unless it could let me just type a pkg name to be excluded and then it automatically exclude all pkgs related to it, dependencies and so on without stating *EACH* pkg
[08:29] <ArrenLex> m0dY, I don't think so, no...
[08:29] <[NP] Tangent> any ideas?
[08:29] <aceracer24> alot of help ubuntu+1 was :(
[08:30] <PopeOfWar> [NP] Tangent: View above advice...
[08:30] <m0dY> so what could be a good solution!? can't think that yum pkg manager is better than apt-get
[08:30] <[NP] Tangent> well
[08:30] <[NP] Tangent> I'll reboot again
[08:30] <[NP] Tangent> probably not gonna help any more
[08:30] <[NP] Tangent> the first reboot didn't help
[08:30] <[NP] Tangent> brb
[08:30] <PopeOfWar> !enter > [NP] Tangent
[08:31] <aceracer24> anyone tell him to check to make sure his valume is up and not muted?
[08:31] <PopeOfWar> aceracer24: volume schmolume
[08:32] <ArrenLex> acer: the error he pasted from staring alsa showed something was definitely wrong.
[08:33] <ArrenLex> Oh hell. No, it didn't. xD
[08:33] <ArrenLex> Hope he comes back soon.
[08:33] <AlReece45> lol
[08:34] <AlReece45> Might also want to make sure speakers are still on and the speakers didn't do some wierd things... they do sometimes
[08:34] <muhammad> any1 know how to take screenshots during ubuntu installation my voice would go down from shoutin lol
[08:35] <[NP] Tangent> crud, still no go, Arren
[08:35] <ArrenLex> Hi, NP. Sorry. xD
[08:35] <[NP] Tangent> other ideas?
[08:35] <ArrenLex> That was my bad.
[08:35] <ArrenLex> Yes.
[08:35] <ArrenLex> Run that same command you ran again with sudo before it.
[08:35] <ArrenLex> sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils force-reload
[08:36] <SpaceFrog> ffs, i wish i could turn this bloody Spellcheck off. It's on everything... gAIM, XChat, etc.
[08:36] <SpaceFrog> Every textbox
[08:36] <[NP] Tangent> well
[08:36] <[NP] Tangent> no errors that time
[08:36] <[NP] Tangent> but still no sound at all
[08:37] <[NP] Tangent> XMMS shows that it's putting sound through something
[08:37] <[NP] Tangent> but no sound at all comes out the speakers
[08:37] <[NP] Tangent> not even the logon sound
[08:37] <ArrenLex> NP: pastebin the results of 'amixer'
[08:38] <[NP] Tangent> here you go, Arren
[08:38] <[NP] Tangent> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24616
[08:39] <ArrenLex> Jesus. Firefox died again.
[08:39] <ArrenLex> *finger.drum*
[08:39] <SpaceFrog> Is there a program for Linux like Windows' Image preview, with the ability to navigate through a directory of images with a left/right button?
[08:39] <webfreak> ArrenLex: running bon echo beta 2?
[08:40] <bur[n] er> SpaceFrog: uhh.. eog... it comes up when you doubleclick an image by default
[08:40] <ArrenLex> SpaceFrog, yes. Try gqview for Gnome.
[08:40] <ArrenLex> Or kuickshow or gwenview for KDE.
[08:40] <bur[n] er> what's wrong with eog?
[08:41] <hyper> stupid question: Shouldn't I have a file or something at /dev/dsp ?
[08:41] <webfreak> yeah, eog does the same thing
[08:41] <[NP] Tangent> Arren, any more ideas?
[08:41] <bur[n] er> buttons are "spacebar" and "backspace" instead of arrows
[08:41] <ArrenLex> NP, this is your problem.
[08:41] <ArrenLex> FrontLeft:Playback24[77%] [off] 
[08:41] <ArrenLex> FrontRight:Playback24[77%] [off] 
[08:42] <ArrenLex> Your PCM is muted, buddy.
[08:42] <[NP] Tangent> hm
[08:42] <[NP] Tangent> unusual
[08:42] <[NP] Tangent> what could have done that?
[08:42] <webfreak> when you get it fixed, run alsactl store as root
[08:42] <[NP] Tangent> I never set anything to do such a thing
[08:42] <webfreak> 'sudo alsactl store' rather
[08:43] <ArrenLex> Anyway, NP, run alsamixer. Arrowkey over to the PCM column. Press space to change MM at the bottom to 00.
[08:43] <ArrenLex> Check again.
[08:43] <[NP] Tangent> omg
[08:43] <[NP] Tangent> there we go
[08:43] <webfreak> ArrenLex: sorry, not trying to but in or anything :)
[08:43] <[NP] Tangent> found a way
[08:43] <webfreak> butt*
[08:43] <[NP] Tangent> thanks for that
[08:44] <ArrenLex> NP: what did you find? Does it work?
[08:44] <[NP] Tangent> now I can go to sleep and listen to my Namlook music :)
[08:44] <[NP] Tangent> ArrenLex, right clicked on the Volume thingamabob on the panel
[08:44] <[NP] Tangent> and randomly clicked from there
[08:44] <ArrenLex> ...oh.
[08:44] <ArrenLex> Well, sure, if you want to use, you know, a GUI.
[08:44] <[NP] Tangent> fortunately only took two menu items
[08:45] <[NP] Tangent> good night
[08:45] <ArrenLex> Night!
[08:45] <ArrenLex> Hope I could help you.
[08:45] <hastesaver> If I want some particular program to be written, where do I file a bug report? ;-)
[08:45] <ArrenLex> What program is this? xD
[08:46] <jld5445> how do i make nautilus not show my windows partions on the desktop?
[08:47] <hastesaver> ArrenLex, I thought of this when I noticed that: (1) the package perl comes with a commandline tool called cpan, which allows you to download and install new packages/modules/whatever-they-are-called from CPAN (2) TeX has no similar thing to get packages from CTAN
[08:48] <wickedpuppy> hastesaver, i don't think that would be a bug ... more like a request ? btw what kind of software you looking for ?
[08:48] <hastesaver> wickedpuppy, yes, it's a request. Definitely
[08:48] <hastesaver> But is there some community place where people can make requests for programs to be written? ;-)
[08:49] <Kamui> how many characters is allowed in a freenode nick?  And if someone is using my nickname, how do I "reclaim" it if Ive regged it with nickserv?
[08:49] <ArrenLex> I would request it from the TeX people. If such a people exist.
[08:49] <wickedpuppy> hastesaver, why not you write one ? thats how linux started ....
[08:49] <AlReece45> What's what's the best/easiest way to get /etc/X11/X if it isn't there?
[08:50] <wickedpuppy> Kamui, pls do /msg nickserv help
[08:50] <webfreak> Kamui: /msg nickserv help ghost <- for nick recovery
[08:50] <hastesaver> wickedpuppy, yes, I guess I can write one in this case, if it's simple enough. But in general, it may be hard, and there may be others who can, and who are looking for something to do... there should be a way of contacting them
[08:50] <webfreak> Kamui: not sure about the nick character limit
[08:50] <webfreak12345678> long enough :)
[08:50] <wickedpuppy> hastesaver, perhaps its already been done ? may we know what kind of prog you are looking for ?
[08:51] <hastesaver> wickedpuppy, that's besides the point. I'm just making a general observation that there should be ways of doing this thing.
[08:51] <AlReece45> hm... i would think that ubuntu install would install xserver-xorg...
[08:52] <ArrenLex> It does.
[08:52] <Madpilot> AlReece45, did you do a server install?
[08:52] <AlReece45> nope
[08:52] <AlReece45> I just did apt-get xserver-xorg and its there now
[08:52] <hyper> how can I create /dev/dsp ?
[08:53] <wickedpuppy> hastesaver, how do i put it ? yes it can be ... but people in OSS write codes because they are itchy ... frankly i thats how i see it ...
[08:53] <ArrenLex> hyper: you don't. It's done for you when you install sound.
[08:53] <ArrenLex> It should already exist.
[08:53] <anubis> does apt-get pr0n work?
[08:53] <ArrenLex> hyper: try apt-get install alsa-oss
[08:53] <hastesaver> wickedpuppy, yes, but sometimes one can be itchy, and only others can scratch the itch :)
[08:54] <Kamui> one more question which nickserv wasn't able to help me out with.  If a nickname I want to register is registered, but has only been used once on the day it was registered over 1 and a half ago, can I somehow request it?
[08:54] <ArrenLex> ...I didn't need that mental image.
[08:54] <hyper> arrenLex: well, yesterday it seemed to have existed (because vmware wasn't complaininga bout it missing) but today it's not there anymore
[08:54] <Kamui> 1 and a half years ago
[08:54] <webfreak> Kamui: if someone else already owns it, you can't just request a change of ownership
[08:54] <webfreak> Kamui: but that would be something to take up with the freenode staff.
[08:54] <wickedpuppy> hastesaver, true .. if there is a demand ...
[08:55] <hyper> arrenlex: alsa-oss is already newest version
[08:55] <m0dY> ArrenLex: do i need to do something to enable the /etc/apt/preferences file to be recognized by apt-get ?
[08:55] <hastesaver> wickedpuppy, exactly. What I'm asking is: how does one demand?
[08:55] <ArrenLex> m0dY: no.
[08:55] <ArrenLex> hyper: then you should be fine. Are you having PROBLEMS with it not existing?
[08:56] <m0dY> archangelpetro: then why doesn my rules don't work ?
[08:56] <hyper> ArrenLex: Yes, sound works fine... but it's missing
[08:56] <ArrenLex> Hyper: if sound works fine what's the problem?
[08:56] <ArrenLex> Don't fix it if it ain't broke.
[08:56] <wickedpuppy> hastesaver, slashdot is very good place ... and here too ... you can also demand by downloading the windows counterpart program many times ... if someone sees it then surely they will do the OSS version
[08:56] <hyper> ArrenLex: Well, vmware looks for /dev/dsp and it's not there
[08:56] <wickedpuppy> or you can bug red hat ... if you know them
[08:57] <hastesaver> wickedpuppy, that's very presumptuous; Windows very likely has no equivalent at all :p
[08:57] <ArrenLex> hastesaver, add it to the bugzilla of the TeX people as a wishlist.
[08:57] <m0dY> ArrenLex: that's what i typed in..
[08:57] <wickedpuppy> hastesaver, then how can i put it .... it doesn't exist ?
[08:57] <m0dY> Package: apachtop \n Pin: version 0.12* \n Pin-Priority: -1
[08:57] <m0dY> ArrenLex: \n means a new line =)
[08:57] <ArrenLex> I figured.
[08:58] <m0dY> so in what am i wrong ?
[08:58] <ArrenLex> Version 0.12* doesn't look right.
[08:58] <m0dY> in the man example that's how it's called
[08:58] <m0dY> anyway, how should it be?
[08:58] <hastesaver> ArrenLex, yes, that's a good idea in this case. Thanks.
[08:58] <Kamui> awesome
[08:59] <Kamui> thanks
[08:59] <hastesaver> ArrenLex, But i was wondering... there should be a good way to do this in general, right?
[08:59] <Kamui> they let me reg it
[08:59] <ArrenLex> hastesaver: I think you need to request it as a wishlist.
[08:59] <m0dY> ArrenLex: any idea !
[08:59] <hastesaver> For instance, when I have free time, I'd gladly write simple programs, if I knew someone would want them...
[08:59] <ArrenLex> m0dY, I'm googling it.
[09:00] <m0dY> okay :)
[09:00] <ArrenLex> hastesaver: that's exactly what Linux is all about!
[09:00] <ArrenLex> YES OLD DEBIAN ROOT FTW
[09:00] <ArrenLex> Package: wine
[09:00] <ArrenLex> Pin: release v=0.9.8
[09:00] <ArrenLex> Pin-Priority: 1001
[09:00] <ArrenLex> Like that.
[09:00] <webfreak> hyper: can you pastebin the output of "lsmod | grep snd"?
[09:01] <webfreak> hyper: i'm wondering if you have snd_mixer_oss loaded
[09:01] <hastesaver> ArrenLex, yes, that's why I'm asking. Suppose that right now I have both programming knowledge and free time (;-)), but no ideas on what to program. What do I do?
[09:01] <ArrenLex> webfreak: is it not just easier to  "lsmod | grep snd_mixer_oss" which yields one line and avoids pastebin, then?
[09:01] <wickedpuppy> hastesaver, you can help existing projects ?
[09:02] <webfreak> ArrenLex: yes, actually
[09:02] <ArrenLex> hasteasver: contribute to an existing project that you like!
[09:02] <chalcedony> what's the command to open a .tar.gz
[09:02] <chalcedony>  ?
[09:02] <ArrenLex> Help with bugfixes or implementing new features.
[09:02] <ArrenLex> chacedony, it's an archive. You have to "unzip" it. tar xzf <file>
[09:02] <wickedpuppy> chalcedony, tar -zxvf file.tar.gz
[09:02] <webfreak> ArrenLex: it actually spits out three, which i wasn't sure would get him kicked or not
[09:03] <m0`> hey I am wondering
[09:03] <ArrenLex> Hi moe!
[09:03] <m0`> whats a nice widget to go with ubuntu
[09:03] <m0`> Like if I want a cpu meter
[09:03] <docgnome> is there a free program to open .sit files for ubuntu?
[09:03] <ArrenLex> doc: what are .sit files?
[09:03] <m0`> or even make a magnifying rollover like macs
[09:04] <hastesaver> wickedpuppy, true, there are a lot of ways I can help, but do you agree that having a "Requested functionality" source *would help* (1) users who want things done and can't write it themselves and (2) programmers looking for ideas?
[09:04] <ArrenLex> m0: for gnome, try gkrellm
[09:04] <webfreak> m0`: gkrellm is nice, imo
[09:04] <webfreak> heh..
[09:04] <hastesaver> wickedpuppy, All I'm saying is that such a thing would help
[09:04] <docgnome> ArrenLex: the StuffIt file format. it's a sort of mac zip.
[09:04] <ArrenLex> hastesaver: all the major projects have wishlists.
[09:04] <m0`> thnkx guys
[09:04] <m0`> Let me see how beauty is tha, people say Macs are better
[09:04] <wickedpuppy> hastesaver, i know what you can do right now ... how about a wish list ?
[09:05] <hastesaver> ArrenLex, but what if I have a wish that isn't covered by any project?
[09:05] <ArrenLex> haste: like what?
[09:05] <ArrenLex> docgnome: have you tried google or did you come here first?
[09:05] <hastesaver> ArrenLex, um, I don't know. Maybe you're right; everything is covered already.
[09:06] <ArrenLex> The people on this list (i.e. ME) aren't very specialised. Usually all we do for specialised requests is google.
[09:06] <docgnome> ArrenLex: of course i googled
[09:07] <chalcedony>   bash: zxvf: command not found
[09:07] <ArrenLex> chalcedony: "tar xzf <file>"
[09:07] <Kamui> Does the ubuntu synaptic "updates" automatically keep my entire system running the most recent versions of all installed software, eg apt-get dist-upgrade, or is it triggered in some other way
[09:07] <ArrenLex> dochgnome: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Apps/stuffit-archives.html i.e. tough. no.
[09:07] <hyper> webfreak:  http://www.phpfi.com/156549
[09:07] <ArrenLex> Kamui: you have to launch synaptic and make it update.
[09:07] <anubis> what command do i use to upgrade my distro ?
[09:08] <Kamui> arrenlex: every day or so I get an update bubble that just appears in gnome saying, there are updates avaialble
[09:08] <ArrenLex> anubis: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:08] <anubis> ty
[09:08] <ArrenLex> Kamui: you know better than I. I don't run gnome.
[09:08] <Kamui> ArrenLex: I don't actually run it manually
[09:08] <chalcedony> ArrenLex: that got it ty :)
[09:08] <m0`> gkrellm is kinda weak :x
[09:09] <m0`> How can I get the effects like rollover magnifying strip like the mac
[09:09] <Kamui> m0`: check out XGL, you'll get a lot of similar effects, including the magnifier
[09:10] <Kamui> m0`: #ubuntu-xgl
[09:10] <chalcedony> ok now it says it may be a binary file and won't cd .file.tar.gz
[09:10] <m0`> Kamui: I am running XGL
[09:10] <jindal> hullo guys, is it possible to install dapper desktop in text mode..... the default live cd installation hav issues with a amd machine, on which breezy wos a breeeze
[09:10] <ArrenLex> chalcedony: a .tar.gz file is an archive.
[09:10] <m0`> Kamui: it doesn't come with a magnifing launcher
[09:10] <ArrenLex> When you extracted it, you made a folder.
[09:10] <ArrenLex> cd into that new folder.
[09:10] <ArrenLex> jindal: yes. Download the "alternative" CD.
[09:11] <Kamui> m0`: newest version?  I set my hot key for the magnify funct to meta-super mouse2, works great, you have CSM?
[09:11] <webfreak> hyper: yeah, the oss modules are loaded. are linux-sound-base, alsa-base, and alsa-utils all installed?
[09:11] <jindal> ArrenLex, oks
[09:11] <wickedpuppy> Kamui, may i ask did you get that nick from an anime? that sounds familiar ..
[09:12] <anubis> ninkja kamui
[09:12] <chalcedony> ~$ cd filename.tar.gz
[09:12] <chalcedony> bash: cd: filename.tar.gz: Not a directory
[09:12] <chalcedony> ~$
[09:12] <hyper> webfreak: I don't know... I just installed ubuntu... everything worked fine for a few days... in vmware no problem either... then last night I changed partition sizes... everything works fine except tha vmware complains about /dev/dsp
[09:12] <m0`> Kamui: I have compiz cwgd
[09:12] <ArrenLex> wicked: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamui
[09:12] <Kamui> wickedpuppy: yea, from X-1999
[09:12] <webfreak> hyper: ahh.
[09:12] <ArrenLex> chalcedony, I told you, you can't cd into that file. That's an archive.
[09:12] <jocke1s> Hi all. I have a rockboxed ipod video 30Gb. When I plug it in nothing happens. I can't see it at all and I have no idea how to mount it. Any ideas?
[09:12] <wickedpuppy> Kamui, no kid ... shadow skill also has kamui
[09:12] <hyper> webfreak: yes, those are installed
[09:12] <ArrenLex> When you extracted the archive, it made a new folder from what was archived in that file.
[09:12] <Kamui> m0`: what happens when you type csm at the console?  That should give you the new configuration tool
[09:12] <webfreak> hyper: i never screw around with changing existing partition sizes.
[09:12] <ArrenLex> Go to that folder.
[09:13] <chalcedony> ArrenLex: ok sorry .. can you tell me the command?
[09:13] <wickedpuppy> chalcedony, pls do ls ...
[09:13] <subpar> is there a way I can see what's using my sound device?
[09:13] <ArrenLex> No. It depends what the folder in that file is.
[09:13] <chalcedony> ls ?
[09:13] <Kamui> wickedpuppy: well, its a common anime name, it means the hand that controls the power of god
[09:13] <wickedpuppy> i think you will see the dir
[09:13] <wickedpuppy> chalcedony, yup ... ls
[09:13] <wickedpuppy> Kamui, thanks for the explaination ..
[09:14] <Kamui> lolx
[09:14] <Kamui> :)
[09:14] <hyper> webfreak: I also did that just after I installed ubuntu and after vmware... when I saw that the installer created one big partition
[09:14] <hyper> webfreak: I then created a seperate one for /home
[09:14] <anubis> im checking my japanese/english dictionary and it says it mean blue shoe
[09:14] <chalcedony> ~$ ls fil*
[09:14] <chalcedony> filename.tar.gz
[09:14] <chalcedony> ~$
[09:14] <ArrenLex> ...your archive is actually called filename.tar.gz?
[09:14] <Kamui> m0`: that work for you?  you might get better help from teh experts in #ubuntu-xgl, especially DBO
[09:15] <chalcedony> ArrenLex: no it's more complicated
[09:15] <webfreak> hyper: as a last resort, you can create the device node manually if you wish. try this: sudo mknod /dev/dsp c 14 3 && sudo chown root:audio /dev/dsp && sudo chmod 660 /dev/dsp
[09:15] <ArrenLex> chalcedony, are you new to Linux?
[09:15] <Kamui> didn't see that coming
[09:15] <wickedpuppy> chalcedony, no no ... just ls ..
[09:15] <webfreak> hyper: i can't say what happened if you resized partitions. i don't trust the risk of data loss.
[09:15] <Kamui> didn't see you in here actually
[09:15] <chalcedony> ArrenLex:  i'm a mother with years of experieance .. just  also have some bad learning disabilites that i hate sometimes.
[09:16] <ArrenLex> chalcedony: computers and Linux are not the same thing. Have you used LINUX before?
[09:16] <hyper> webfreak: I resized partitons a couple of times on windows...that was never a problem
[09:16] <subpar> is there a way I can see what's using my sound device? amarok won't play because it says the device is busy...
[09:16] <hyper> anyway, I'm just reconfiguring vmware
[09:16] <hyper> maybe that help
[09:16] <hyper> if not I try the make that nod again
[09:17] <ArrenLex> Hey, Kamui. How do you register your nick?
[09:17] <hastesaver> chalcedony, First, what is in the .tar.gz ? Why are you trying to open it? (Because if it's to install somethign, there is a better way)
[09:17] <chalcedony> ArrenLex: dear the filename is myfile09-23-06.tar.gz and i haven't messed with tar files in years.
[09:17] <webfreak> hyper: alright. good luck :)
[09:17] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell ArrenLex about register
[09:17] <webfreak> i'm off to bed. night folks.
[09:17] <chalcedony> hastesaver: i downloaded it and thought it would be easy .. obviously i forgot a few things.
[09:18] <seshomaru> hi ,where is the resources list located?
[09:18] <hyper> webfreak: thx for the help... I'll let you know how I go :)
[09:18] <wickedpuppy> chalcedony, you can right click and extract from the nautilus .... oh well
[09:18] <ArrenLex> chalcedony: run tar -t myfile09-23-06.tar.gz, which will show you everything that's in the archive.
[09:18] <chalcedony> hastesaver: the original is in xchat2  downloads
[09:18] <ArrenLex> chalcedony: when you extract the archive, all this stuff in the archive will get copied to the current folder. That's where you'll find it.
[09:18] <writingdesk> has anyone tried doing a dapper update and then downloading something using bittorrent, because it locked up the system (no response at all) here, I was wanting to know if anyone else could replicate the behavior
[09:19] <wickedpuppy> writingdesk, what bittorrent program would that be ?
[09:19] <tomcatt> !mouse
[09:19] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[09:19] <muhammad> any1 know how to take screenshots during ubuntu installation my voice would go down from repeatin lol
[09:20] <treedreamer> hi,everyone
[09:20] <writingdesk> wickedpuppy: current bittorrent (the bittorrent application) I'm sorry this is for amd64
[09:20] <chalcedony> ok great tar -t .. it seems to be doing *something* :)
[09:20] <wickedpuppy> writingdesk, oh hmms ... i am using intel ... nope never happen before
[09:21] <ArrenLex> chalcedony: actually, no, it won't do anything, sorry about that xD that was my mistake.
[09:21] <treedreamer> sometimes i get these warnings:Gtk-WARNING; locale not support by C library
[09:21] <ArrenLex> Whoever said it before was right, a GUI might be easier. Are you running Gnome?
[09:21] <treedreamer> I searched the Web and found no answers
[09:21] <hastesaver> treedreamer, ignore them. they are harmless :-)
[09:21] <treedreamer> hastesaver,really >
[09:21] <wickedpuppy> mostly harmless ... pardon the pun ...
[09:22] <writingdesk> the strange thing is I reinstalled, and haven't booted into the new kernel yet (2.6.15 vs 2.6.17) and have chosen not to update firefox, and bittorrent is working fine.  So soon I guess I will find out if somethings gone wrong with 2.6.17
[09:22] <treedreamer> oh ,thanks
[09:22] <chalcedony> ArrenLex: oh should i control C and stop that ?
[09:22] <ZeRo> Hi
[09:22] <wickedpuppy> wha
[09:22] <jasondotgnu> howto install xorg 7.1 under edgy?
[09:22] <wickedpuppy> tar -t is still running ?
[09:22] <ArrenLex> chal: yes, ctrl+c and stop that.
[09:22] <ZeRo> My apt is screwed up...
[09:22] <subpar> is there a way I can see what's using my sound device? amarok (and xmms) won't play because it says the device is busy...
[09:22] <chalcedony> ok
[09:22] <ArrenLex> chal: are you running Gnome?
[09:23] <ZeRo> Anyone care to attempt to help me?
[09:23] <chalcedony> ArrenLex: yes
[09:23] <ArrenLex> chal: you know what Nautilus is?
[09:23] <wickedpuppy> !sound
[09:23] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:23] <treedreamer> ZeRo,just ask
[09:23] <chalcedony> and please no gui commands
[09:23] <ZeRo> ok
[09:23] <jasondotgnu> !xorg
[09:23] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:23] <subpar> aha thank you :)
[09:23] <zoidberg> guys ....do you know how to use XDCC ?
[09:24] <wickedpuppy> gui has no commands chalcedony  ... don't worry :P
[09:24] <jasondotgnu> !xorg7.1
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorg7.1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <ZeRo> Well, when I ran update manager, it stopped at the download part and when I cancelled it, it said "W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.15/linux-image-2.6.15-27-386_2.6.15-27.48_i386.deb
[09:24] <ZeRo> 
[09:24] <ZeRo> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386_2.6.15.11-5_i386.deb" then whenever I try a manual "apt-get install <package-name>" it will stop after it says "Connection to <ipaddress"
[09:24] <zoidberg> i searched a packet connected and typed in the command but the transfer is not starting
[09:24] <ClayG> anyone here know of a good program to track financials ? something like ms money would be great
[09:24] <ZeRo> my sources.list is default
[09:24] <zoidberg> i searched a packet connected and typed in the command but the transfer is not starting
[09:24] <zoidberg> guys ....do you know how to use XDCC ?
[09:24] <ClayG> Or anything that can keep track of checking, savings , money market and CDs.....I have found some semi decent programs but nothing that can deal with interest bearing accounts
[09:25] <treedreamer> ZeRo,have you checked your network settings?
[09:25] <ZeRo> What would be wrong?
[09:25] <ZeRo> Im on wireless network...
[09:25] <hyper> webfreak?
[09:25] <chalcedony> wickedpuppy: i use console for nearly everything
[09:25] <webfreak> yes?
[09:25] <main2> anyone successfully compiled vlc 0.8.5+ on dapper here? :)
[09:25] <fdoving> zero, update the list of packages in synaptic, or run 'sudo apt-get update' from the commandline.
[09:26] <ZeRo> ok
[09:26] <fdoving> zero, then try again.
[09:26] <ArrenLex> chal: where did you say that file can be downloaded, again?
[09:26] <ZeRo> it freezes at the connecting part when I update to
[09:26] <hastesaver> ClayG, KDE has something caled kmymoney2 ...
[09:26] <jocke1s> How can I mount a USB disk (ipod with rockbox). dmesg gives usb 1-2: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[09:26] <hyper> webfreak: I love ya ^^ nah, kidding... making the nod and restarting ubuntu helped :)
[09:26] <ClayG> can it deal with interest bearing accounts?
[09:26] <webfreak> hyper: woot, cool
[09:26] <ZeRo> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.15/linux-image-2.6.15-27-386_2.6.15-27.48_i386.deb
[09:26] <ZeRo> 
[09:26] <ZeRo> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386_2.6.15.11-5_i386.deb
[09:26] <ClayG> and thanks for the tip btw
[09:26] <ZeRo> oops
[09:26] <ZeRo> 0% [Connecting to 201.0.4.148 (201.0.4.148)]  [Connecting to 201.0.4.148 (201.0.
[09:26] <ZeRo> thats where it stops
[09:26] <hyper> webfreak: so, what did I actually do with that mknod?
[09:27] <hastesaver> ClayG, oh, and there's gnucash
[09:27] <hastesaver> One of KMyMoney and GNUCash should work for you, hopefully :)
[09:27] <webfreak> hyper: mknod lets you create character devices or block devices in /dev if you know the parameters
[09:27] <ClayG> isn't gnucash primitive?
[09:27] <boink> dunno, try it first
[09:27] <wickedpuppy> chalcedony, console is great but may i suggest you get familiar with linux first ?
[09:27] <webfreak> hyper: "man mknod" for more info
[09:27] <main2> anyone successfully compiled vlc 0.8.5+ on dapper here? :)
[09:28] <webfreak> hyper: there's probably some HOWTO's on the 'net that explain unix device nodes as well :)
[09:28] <hyper> webfreak: I guess I'll look at that some other time... I'm proud that I know the differnece between a sym- and hardlink ^^ --> linux noob
[09:28] <hastesaver> ClayG, I don't know, never used *any* money-managing app (mainly because I have no money ;-))
[09:28] <webfreak> hyper: hehe
[09:28] <ClayG> well, worse comes to worse i have a windows box in the house
[09:28] <ZeRo> Its still freezing at connection
[09:29] <Madpilot> ClayG, supposedly GnuCash has gotten much better - but I'm in hastesaver's state WRT money management, I'll admit :)
[09:29] <ziro01> hey
[09:29] <ClayG> heh
[09:29] <treedreamer> ZeRo,what is the rate of your connection?
[09:29] <ziro01> fun
[09:30] <ZeRo> rate?
[09:30] <ZeRo> Speed?
[09:30] <webfreak> i'm really off to bed this time. night ;)
[09:30] <treedreamer> sorry for my poor English :)
[09:31] <treedreamer> ZeRo,yes  i mean speed
[09:32] <chalcedony> ArrenLex chal: where did you say that file can be downloaded, again?   <-- ArrenLex it was sent to me, it's still in my xchat downolads
[09:32] <ZeRo> 54mbps
[09:32] <chalcedony> i *copied* it to my home directory
[09:33] <SpaceFrog> How do i see my framerate on glxgears?
[09:33] <iLLf8d> hey all I just noticed that ubuntu isn't sourcing .bash_profile?? whats up with that?
[09:34] <ZeRo> :(
[09:34] <treedreamer> ZeRo, maybe you can turn to google, i am newbie to ubuntu
[09:34] <ZeRo> I dont know why I cant use the sources
[09:34] <hastesaver> ClayG, Here's a list: KMyMoney, gnucash, Grisbi, jGnash, gnofin. Try all of them (probably in that order ;-), and see if any of them is good enough for you.
[09:34] <m0dY> ArrenLex: still no idea about my pinning prob. :(
[09:34] <ZeRo> Ive turned to google
[09:34] <wickedpuppy> iLLf8d, tried bash.rc ?
[09:34] <ZeRo> ubuntu forums
[09:34] <ZeRo> everything
[09:34] <hyper> webfreak: what desktop do you use?
[09:34] <ClayG> awsome , ill try that now
[09:34] <treedreamer> ZeRo, good luck
[09:34] <ZeRo> Thanks o.O
[09:34] <iLLf8d> no not yet did they stop using profile?
[09:34] <treedreamer> You are welcome ~~
[09:35] <wickedpuppy> iLLf8d, if i am not wrong ... rh based distros and debian based distros see different files
[09:35] <ZeRo> anyone else care to help?
[09:35] <hastesaver> SpaceFrog, "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthisisnotabenchmark"
[09:35] <hyper> oh, he's gone :(
[09:35] <iLLf8d> wieckedpuppy yeah debian based distros use .bash_profile
[09:35] <iLLf8d> wickedpuppy, but apparently not ubutnu
[09:36] <hastesaver> iLLf8d, in the worst case you can always put "souce ~/.bash_profile" in .bashrc or whatever *is* being sourced
[09:36] <wickedpuppy> iLLf8d, i suppose you can file it as a bug ? for me as long as it read one ... fine with me
[09:36] <hastesaver> SpaceFrog, did it work?
[09:36] <iLLf8d> hastesaver, yeah its just wierd
[09:37] <iLLf8d> wickedpuppy, yeah its just wierd
[09:37] <SpaceFrog> hastesaver: very funny
[09:37] <shinobi2> anyone using vim 7.0?
[09:37] <SpaceFrog> i just wanted to know what fps i was getting, thats all.
[09:38] <wickedpuppy> SpaceFrog, you havn't tried it ... have you ?
[09:38] <hastesaver> SpaceFrog, no, I was serious. That *is* the right option. The glxgears people added it becuase...
[09:38] <SpaceFrog> maybe i typed it wrong, because i got an unknown parameter
[09:38] <ClayG> wow
[09:38] <wickedpuppy> SpaceFrog, copy and paste
[09:38] <ClayG> gnucash looks like it is what i need
[09:38] <ClayG> thanks for the tip hastesaver
[09:39] <hastesaver> ClayG, great, thanks. Might help me someday... :)
[09:39] <ClayG> here is a reward, you like OC?     .................   o[09:39] <writingdesk> mp3 audio not work out of the box?
[09:39] <hastesaver> !mp3 > writingdesk
[09:39] <ClayG> or maybe you would like a highpower hosting account as a thank you?
[09:39] <writingdesk> !mp3 ?
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3 ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <SpaceFrog> Warrning: unknown parameter: -iacknowledgethatthisisnotabenchmark <--- Yes, it also has a typo in Warning
[09:40] <wickedpuppy> writingdesk, nope
[09:40] <writingdesk> !mp3
[09:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:40] <writingdesk> gotcha
[09:40] <hastesaver> SpaceFrog, oh, try "glxgears -printfps" then. Much boring, in comparison...
[09:40] <SpaceFrog> they must have taken that feature out, eh?
[09:41] <SpaceFrog> 567fps.. Not bad considering I cannot get drivers working properly for ATI
[09:42] <wickedpuppy> 567 ? thats pretty low ..
[09:42] <SpaceFrog> Yeah, I have been trying to get my ATI card to work properly since yesterday
[09:42] <SpaceFrog> i'm just running off generic drivers atm
[09:42] <hastesaver> SpaceFrog, no, I made a mistake :( The right option is "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark" I left out "tool"
[09:43] <wickedpuppy> SpaceFrog, pls complain to ATI
[09:43] <wickedpuppy> that will tell them that people use linux on desktop
[09:43] <SpaceFrog> Yeah, i should.
[09:43] <SpaceFrog> They've lost me as a customer, that's for sure
[09:44] <hastesaver> wickedpuppy, which are the "good" graphics cards, BTW?
[09:44] <SpaceFrog> nVidia, all the way
[09:44] <linux__alien> has anyone here installed KDE in Ubuntu and do you face any problems?
[09:44] <SpaceFrog> i've never had any problems with nVidia drivers in linux
[09:44] <myesterious> hey, The linux swap partition that make after installed ubuntu is difference with swap partition that make on installing ?
[09:45] <thenetduck> can somone help me 3d accelerate my ATI 9600 Graphic card???
[09:46] <Madpilot> !ati
[09:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:46] <hastesaver> NVidia also only gives binary drivers
[09:46] <Madpilot> thenetduck, see the URL above ^^^ I've got a 9600XT, it runs nicely
[09:46] <hastesaver> They just happen to work better, but that doesn't mean...
[09:46] <wickedpuppy> hastesaver, nvidia
[09:46] <botxj> are the compiz repositories up yet?
[09:46] <linux__alien> is it advisable to install KDE in Ubuntu or should i go in for Kubuntu?
[09:46] <SpaceFrog> thenetduck: We're in the same situation
[09:47] <thenetduck> Madpilot thanks
[09:47] <hastesaver> linux__alien, there's no problem install KDE in Ubuntu. Install the package kubuntu-desktop, and you'll be fine
[09:47] <SpaceFrog> I've got a 9200.
[09:47] <botxj> linux__alien, it all dont matter, ubuntu and kubuntu are all stupid marketing schemes anyway
[09:47] <boink> stupid?
[09:47] <botxj> yep, stupid
[09:48] <boink> ok
[09:48] <botxj> i mean ubuntu and kubuntu are the exact same thing except one has a primary desktop manager over the other, but heh, in either you can just easily switch to the other
[09:49] <botxj> so yeah, it's pretty stupid
[09:49] <thenetduck> Madpilot : I have all ready optimized my graphics card so its not so choppy on my computer (used the fglrx driver) does that mean my card is 3d accelerated???
[09:49] <Madpilot> thenetduck, if you're running the fglrx drivers, then yes, it is
[09:50] <thenetduck> Madpilot well how about that, I had it all ready done and didn't know it. They shouldn't give it such a fancy name (sounds scarry)
[09:50] <botxj> FGLRX, the future of linux gpu drivers is here!
[09:51] <thenetduck> huraa
[09:51] <botxj> what are they supposed to call it? in windows the radeon drivers are called catalyst
[09:51] <we2by> what's the tool called to monitor wireless networks and packet sniffing?
[09:52] <thenetduck> ya but the wiki should have somthing with the name so it doesn't send me searching for somthing that I all ready have
[09:52] <boink> there are many. etherreal, if that's what you mean
[09:52] <SpaceFrog> netstumbler?
[09:52] <boink> !etherreal
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about etherreal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <boink> !ethereal
[09:52] <ubotu> ethereal: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 564 kB, installed size 1500 kB
[09:52] <we2by> does etherreal support wireless?
[09:52] <Madpilot> we2by, yes
[09:52] <wickedpuppy> we2by, it sniffs packets from the interface you want ...
[09:53] <benjaminwr> when is edgy goint to be final?
[09:53] <boink> !schedule
[09:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:53] <we2by> even if my wireless card is not connected?
[09:53] <boink> ideally, your computer should be switched on for it to work
[09:53] <benjaminwr> tnx
[09:54] <wickedpuppy> we2by, if wireless card is not connected ...  how can it sniff anything ? or i didn't understand your question ?
[09:54] <benjaminwr> does web2by sniff packets to get wep information?
[09:55] <benjaminwr> we2by
[09:55] <boink> !airsnort
[09:55] <ubotu> airsnort: WLAN sniffer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.7e-1.1 (dapper), package size 49 kB, installed size 180 kB
[09:55] <we2by> yea
[09:55] <benjaminwr> even with an acx111?
[09:55] <benjaminwr> or do i need prism?
[09:56] <benjaminwr> ive never used any app for that or my wireless card to sniff wep keys
[09:56] <anubis> i just ran  apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:56] <anubis> , do i need to reboot or something?
[09:57] <benjaminwr> nope, not unless you updated the kernel
[09:57] <benjaminwr> but even so it is not necesary
[09:57] <AbortD> how do i run perl scripts in ubuntu?
[09:57] <benjaminwr> me not know, me be way too new...
[09:57] <botxj> sudo apt-get install wife-and-sex
[09:58] <Shish> "perl blah.pl", or "./blah.pl" if it's set executable; same as any other scripts on any other distro...
[09:58] <AbortD> well
[09:58] <benjaminwr> me know now aswell :D
[09:58] <AbortD> i figured it would be the same on every distro
[09:58] <AbortD> but i still didnt know it
[10:00] <benjaminwr> has anyone got network-manager to select appropriate settings before login? it stores the wep key in the keyring and it cannot access it untill i log in and type the password for my keyring... it is dumb
[10:02] <kamui> can someone tell me what beryl is?
[10:02] <kamui> !beryl
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <benjaminwr> beryl is the new name for compiz
[10:02] <kamui> oh
[10:02] <benjaminwr> they decided to compleetly separate from the actual compiz project
[10:02] <benjaminwr> it is a new project bu quinnstorm
[10:02] <kamui> is there a website I can check out that talks about whats new/different?
[10:03] <kamui> google gives jack sofar
[10:03] <jocke1s> how can I do a file check or something similar on a not recognized usb disk (wont show when doing sudo fdisk -l)
[10:03] <benjaminwr> http://www.compiz.net/topic-4591-beryl-informations-announcement
[10:03] <tamacracker> hey guys?
[10:03] <benjaminwr> this is what there is so far
[10:03] <benjaminwr> it is the anouncement on compiz.net
[10:03] <botxj> are the compiz repositories up yet?
[10:03] <benjaminwr> nope
[10:03] <tamacracker> what's the code I type into the terminal to install photoshop 7.0 with WIne?
[10:03] <benjaminwr> not until they have a stable beryl release
[10:03] <SpaceFrog> woohoo! Planescape: Torment on wine
[10:04] <DiODO> tamacracker,  wine setup.exe ?
[10:04] <tamacracker> >.> ill try that
[10:04] <kamui> tamacracker: if you're using completely opensource wine, good luck, ps7 is very incompatible.
[10:04] <benjaminwr> has anyone got wine working decently with games?
[10:04] <anubis> how do i install XFCE
[10:04] <benjaminwr> i have a good pc
[10:04] <tamacracker> open source?...
[10:04] <SpaceFrog> benjaminwr: I'm playing a game right now
[10:04] <tamacracker> the free version?..
[10:04] <benjaminwr> but is it actually worth it?
[10:04] <kamui> tamacracker: works with crossover office 5, and I've read moderately compatible with wine using the native windows dlls
[10:05] <benjaminwr> guild wars?
[10:05] <benjaminwr> could that work?
[10:05] <tamacracker> I'm not gonna pay monthly for something for the rest of my life...
[10:05] <kamui> tamacracker: but wine with free opensource windows libraries won't run ps7 at al
[10:05] <SpaceFrog> I hear that World of Warcraft runs well in Wine.
[10:05] <tamacracker> ah screw it then... ill use windows for photoshop i guess
[10:05] <benjaminwr> guild wars you onyl pay once
[10:05] <SpaceFrog> Planescape: Torment is running beautifully right now
[10:05] <anubis> GW FTW
[10:05] <unfknblvbl> GW == nerfWars
[10:06] <SpaceFrog> nerd wars, more like
[10:06] <anubis> but can anyone tell me how to install XFCE as my desktop enviroment
[10:06] <kamui> tamacracker: try it, it could work
[10:06] <kamui> tahts just waht I've read
[10:06] <crimsun> anubis: install 'xfce4' if you want the basic environment, else install 'xubuntu-desktop'
[10:06] <anubis> crimsun whats your recomendation?
[10:06] <benjaminwr> well gotta go an have breakfast...
[10:06] <benjaminwr> cya in a bit
[10:07] <botxj> heh, breakfast, it's 4AM here
[10:07] <SpaceFrog> i gotta have dinner
[10:07] <SpaceFrog> hehe
[10:07] <crimsun> err, mmkay
[10:07] <SpaceFrog> ttyl guys
[10:07] <muhammad> any1 know how to take screenshots during ubuntu installation my voice would go down from repeatin lol
[10:08] <crimsun> muhammad: in the graphical environment? It's in Applications> Accessories
[10:08] <SpaceFrog> Can;t you take screenshots (accessories) and save them externally?
[10:08] <SpaceFrog> my thoughts exactly
 nop i mean durin the installation process
[10:09] <Yawner> digital camera is what I use..
[10:09] <muhammad> hmmm
[10:09] <muhammad> so and who dont have digital camera lol
[10:09] <crimsun> are you using the text or the gui installer?
[10:09] <Yawner> lol.. sorry
[10:10] <muhammad> in othe distro like fedora shift+print creat a directory after login u can access the pic u took
[10:10] <muhammad> crimsun> nop the oem mode installation
[10:10] <crimsun> muhammad: ah, no. Get a camera :-)
[10:10] <muhammad> lol
[10:11] <muhammad> ok will discuss that with my father :D
[10:11] <botxj> i have no father
[10:12] <botxj> yet, noone cares
[10:12] <xaxxon> I"m tryign to boot off CD and all I'm getting, eery 30 seconds, is "ataX: failed to set xfermode, disabled"..
[10:12] <xaxxon> ata1..2..3..4..5
[10:12] <xaxxon> ahh, finally
[10:13] <xaxxon> 7 minutes later
[10:13] <xmastree> so, this is IRC, eh?
[10:13] <xaxxon> nope
[10:13] <xaxxon> it's MSN Messenger
[10:13] <xmastree> :-p
[10:14] <we2by> how do I know what driver Ubuntu is using for myw ireless card?
[10:15] <muhammad> !wireless
[10:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:17] <NYCT_4_EVER> hello tous
[10:17] <larryone> ???
[10:17] <thenetduck> has anyone here tested looking glass?
[10:17] <larryone> yup
[10:18] <larryone> you mena the desktop?
[10:18] <thenetduck> larryone what did you think of it?
[10:18] <larryone> that sun microsystems did?
[10:18] <thenetduck> ya
[10:18] <JDStone> yeah, it was crap last time I tested it
[10:18] <larryone> it's ok
[10:18] <JDStone> didn't work on any of my computers
[10:18] <thenetduck> larryone was it laggy?
[10:18] <larryone> nothing special
[10:18] <JDStone> nothing XGL can't do
[10:18] <thenetduck> JDStone, have you used looking glass?
[10:18] <JDStone> yes, but it has been a while
[10:18] <larryone> it looked cool the first time I saw/used it - but that was 3 years ago, and XGL has since arrived
[10:19] <JDStone> I agree with larryone
[10:19] <thenetduck> is it pretty stable/
[10:19] <larryone> it wasnt too laggy on a P4 with 512MB RAM
[10:19] <larryone> stable enough
[10:19] <thenetduck> you think an ati 9600 could run it?
[10:19] <JDStone> again, I agree with larryone one both comments
[10:19] <larryone> it does have some nice features
[10:20] <JDStone> yeah, doesn't work well with ATI I don't think
[10:20] <thenetduck> larryone what was nice about it
[10:20] <larryone> the way you could flip a window over and use sticky notes on it
[10:20] <thenetduck> for instance, what was better/worse and different from xgl to looking glass
[10:21] <larryone> I liked the way you could stack windows off to the side
[10:21] <larryone> XGL was just smoother
[10:21] <larryone> is just smoother*
[10:22] <larryone> JDStone, wasnt there some diffictuly with XGL and ATI also?
[10:22] <thenetduck_> oops
[10:23] <thenetduck> do you know what the difference between aiglx and xgl is?
[10:23] <larryone> nope
[10:23] <larryone> you might ask that in #xgl
[10:23] <thenetduck> :)
[10:25] <Rico> aiglx is a better way of doing things, but you need beta nvidia drivers to do it (assuming you're using nvidia)
[10:25] <JDStone> larryone: good point
[10:25] <JDStone> isn't there always trouble with getting 3D working with ATI cards in linux?
[10:26] <larryone> yea...
[10:26] <larryone> NVidia ftw
[10:26] <Rico> yes, but aiglx especially doesn't work with their official drivers. at all
[10:26] <muhammad> any1 know how to take screenshots during ubuntu installation?
[10:26] <larryone> NVidia and OpenGL go nice together. Very good reason for that =0)
[10:26] <Rico> muhammad: print screen should work
[10:27] <muhammad> Rico r u sure ?
[10:27] <Rico> muhammad: it runs gnome-screenshot. if not you could always run it from a terminal with a delay
[10:27] <JDStone> I don't think print screen will work unless you have an application to paste it into
[10:28] <JDStone> and then print from
[10:28] <Rico> JDStone: gnome-screenshot allows you to save the picture to disk. try it.,
[10:28] <muhammad> i mean in other distro there is a syskey like shift+print creat a directory after login u can access the pic u took
[10:28] <kamui> any advice on trying to troubleshoot suspending laptop crashing?  Hibernation works flawlessly, but when I try to suspend the screen blacks out and never comes back, and Im not sure where to start
[10:28] <muhammad> durin the installation process
[10:29] <anubis> i wanna instal the xubuntu desktop how do i do that?
[10:29] <Rico> muhammad: i guess you could put the pics on the internet, or on a usb drive, or other drive
[10:29] <deFrysk> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:29] <gnomefreak> anubis: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:29] <thenetduck> sudo aptitude xubuntu
[10:29] <thenetduck> aptitude is better :)
[10:29] <thenetduck> doh
[10:29] <thenetduck> i mean
[10:29] <deFrysk> and set gdm to xfce to log in
[10:29] <thenetduck> aptitude install xubuntu
[10:29] <muhammad> Rico> thats not the probe the problem how can i take the snapshots
[10:29] <lastnode> thenetduck, the package is xubuntu-desktop
[10:30] <Rico> muhammad: i just said, press Print Screen.
[10:30] <muhammad> Rico> while am installin in oem mode
[10:30] <muhammad> ok
[10:30] <thenetduck> lastnode, I always hate it installing all of the extras
[10:30] <lastnode> :-)
[10:30] <thenetduck> :p
[10:30] <deFrysk> thenetduck, you only have to do it once
[10:30] <gnomefreak> thenetduck: than the last command you want to use is aptitude
[10:30] <araxor> Hello!
 the after took the pic where i can acess them ?
[10:31] <linux__alien> i ve installed flash-plugin but still i am unable to get flash working in Firefox . Could some one help  me please?
 i mean where the directory to be saved ?
[10:31] <anubis> ok just that
[10:31] <thenetduck> gnomefreak with aptitude doesn't it do a better remove command?
[10:31] <anubis> is that all i need to do?
[10:31] <gnomefreak> linux__alien: restart firefox than in the address bar type about:plugins see if its listed
[10:31] <Rico> muhammad: you should get a box pop up with a save dialog so you can choose where to save it ...?
[10:31] <we2by> any gtk wireless networks monitoring tool?
[10:31] <J-_> can't believe i got my creative ZEN vision:m workin with linux =D took 9 hours of fooling around with it, searching, and finding a guide to make the player to work with ubuntu. all worth it nonetheless
[10:31] <gnomefreak> thenetduck: yes but it installs suggested and recommended packages
 aha got ya
[10:32] <linux__alien> gnomefreak, no
[10:32] <thenetduck> gnomefreak didn't know whawt
 btw thx and i'll try
[10:32] <linux__alien> but i ve installed it even apt shows that i ve installed it
[10:32] <gnomefreak> linux__alien: no what?
[10:33] <linux__alien> its not installed thats what firefox says
[10:33] <linux__alien> File name: libnullplugin.so
[10:33] <weex> any recommendation between using the java runtime executable in kaffe or using sun's?
[10:33] <gnomefreak> ah linux__alien did you accept the licence agreement?
[10:33] <weex> i want to play go on yahoo games
[10:33] <gnomefreak> weex: suns its in the repos
[10:34] <dark_light> There are any tutorial on configuring ADSL with a router?
[10:34] <anubis> ok guys it says it cant find the package
[10:34] <gnomefreak> anubis: did you enable universe repo
[10:34] <anubis> i did
[10:34] <linux__alien> gnomefreak, yes
[10:34] <gnomefreak> !info xubuntu-desktop
[10:34] <ubotu> xubuntu-desktop: Xubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.32 (dapper), package size 8 kB, installed size 36 kB
[10:34] <gnomefreak> damn
[10:34] <ubuntu> hi
[10:34] <linux__alien> its installed
[10:34] <gnomefreak> anubis: make sure you are not using the cdrom repos
[10:34] <linux__alien> but not working
[10:34] <tomcatt> !compiz
[10:34] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:34] <gnomefreak> linux__alien: reinstall it
[10:35] <ubuntu> is it possible to reinstall grub with the ubuntu live cd
[10:35] <anubis> gnomefreak: how do i know that
[10:35] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: yes
[10:35] <gnomefreak> !grub > ubuntu
[10:35] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: please read your pm
[10:35] <thenetduck> so what would you guys say is my best option with a ATI 9600 256 Graphcis cardd XGL, AIGLX or Open Glass ?
[10:35] <gnomefreak> !repos > anubis
[10:35] <gnomefreak> anubis: your pm has instructions
[10:36] <gnomefreak> thenetduck: i would wait on any of them
[10:36] <cagdas> hi all
[10:36] <anubis> gnomefreak: btw i am not running dapper
[10:36] <cagdas> I have a question related with apt-get install
[10:36] <ubuntu> lol how can i read my pm with irssi
[10:36] <gnomefreak> anubis: you are running?
[10:36] <anubis> hoary
[10:36] <thenetduck> gnomefreak you mean not install any of them?
[10:36] <aLPHa_LeaK> ow
[10:36] <anubis> i just intalled it from a cd i had liying around
[10:36] <gnomefreak> anubis: you dont have it
[10:37] <gnomefreak> thenetduck: correct for now
[10:37] <ubuntu> how can i read my pm in irssi
[10:37] <anubis> gnomefreak: how do i upgrade
[10:37] <gnomefreak> thenetduck: there are alot of changes going on right now
[10:37] <anubis> gnomefreak: to dapper i mean
[10:37] <thenetduck> gnomefreak when do you think I would be able to install them stabley?
[10:37] <deFrysk> !upgrade
[10:37] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:37] <thenetduck> or is that hard to say : gnomefreak
[10:37] <cagdas> I wanted to install totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin but I've wrongly typed totem-xine-fire... package which wanted to remove totem-gstreamer package which I've canceled by "no"
[10:37] <ubuntu> !grub
[10:37] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:37] <gnomefreak> anubis: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and chnge the word hoary to breezy
[10:37] <aLPHa_LeaK> anubis: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade && sudo aptitude upgrade
[10:38] <cagdas> but after that I can't install totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin which says the dependency broken
[10:38] <thenetduck> does anyone know if edgy is going to have the Ubuntu System Panel installed by default ??
[10:38] <cagdas> that is the totem-gstreamer package is not installed
[10:38] <gnomefreak> thenetduck: compiz/zgl have alot of changes going on right now changing them to beryl so the repos are down
[10:38] <gnomefreak> aLPHa_LeaK: you dont need upgrade if you run dist-upgrade
[10:38] <cagdas> are that happens because of my previous wrong command ?
[10:39] <gnomefreak> cagdas: on ubuntu totem is installed by default
[10:39] <aLPHa_LeaK> gnomefreak: oh
[10:39] <cagdas> gnomefreak: yes, I know, but I wanted to install the firefox-plugin
[10:40] <gnomefreak> thenetduck: maybe it hasnt been added yet and its getting to that time where you cant add anything
[10:40] <thenetduck> gnomefreak what is beryl ?
[10:40] <linux__alien> gnomefreak, when i give this command i get this error
[10:40] <linux__alien> sudo update-flashplugin
[10:40] <linux__alien> automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes
[10:40] <gnomefreak> thenetduck: join #ubuntu-xgl
[10:40] <cagdas> gnomefreak: and I don't think it is installed by default
[10:40] <ubuntu_> .
[10:40] <thenetduck> ok
[10:40] <gnomefreak> cagdas: the plugin is not
[10:41] <anubis> genomefreak: im gonna change hoary with brezzy to run dist-update?
[10:41] <gnomefreak> cagdas: totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin
[10:41] <cagdas> gnomefreak: and I wanted to install it but I wrongly chosen the totem-xine-.... which conflicts with gstreamer ofcourse
[10:41] <gnomefreak> anubis: run sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:42] <dsterry_> can't seem to find the 1.5.0 in there, any tips on what to look for?
[10:42] <gnomefreak> cagdas: than install totem-gstreamer
[10:42] <cagdas> but I canceled the process when the apt-get asked me do you want to continue
[10:42] <anubis> gnomefreak: i already did
[10:42] <gnomefreak> dsterry_: for what?
[10:42] <cagdas> gnomefreak: I have it already installed
[10:42] <dsterry_> whoops...my nick changed. the JRE
[10:42] <cagdas> gnomefreak: I didn't remove it
[10:42] <gnomefreak> anubis: already did what?
[10:42] <gnomefreak> cagdas: than remove it
[10:42] <anubis> yeah
[10:42] <cagdas> gnomefreak: but it looks like as if I have removed it
[10:42] <gnomefreak> anubis: what does uname -r say
[10:42] <anubis> gnomefreak: a while ago
[10:43] <dsterry_> gnomefreak: i'm trying to get the JRE for firefox and have the .bin from sun's website but prefer synaptic
[10:43] <cagdas> no, it's not a good idea because ubuntu-desktop requires it
[10:43] <anubis> gnomefreak: 2.6.10-6-386
[10:43] <gnomefreak> dsterry_: just install it from repos
[10:43] <gnomefreak> anubis: now do it again but change the breezy to dapper
[10:44] <gnomefreak> wait a min
[10:44] <anubis> gnomefreak: ohh i think i understand now ty
[10:44] <gnomefreak> thats hoary kernel
[10:44] <anubis> gnomefreak: what does that mean
[10:44] <gnomefreak> anubis: what does lsb_release -a say
[10:45] <linux__alien> gnomefreak, any idea what the problem might be ? i am unable to get flash working :-(
[10:45] <gnomefreak> linux__alien: reinstall it
[10:45] <linux__alien> i ve done it
[10:45] <linux__alien> it does not work
[10:45] <gnomefreak> linux__alien: on dapper right?
[10:45] <anubis> gnomefreak: its says its hoary 5.04
[10:45] <linux__alien> yes
[10:45] <cagdas> gnomefreak: removing the totem-gstreamer is not a good idea
[10:45] <gnomefreak> anubis: have you rebooted since you upgraded?
[10:45] <anubis> yeah
[10:45] <gnomefreak> cagdas: its fine
[10:45] <cagdas> gnomefreak: ubuntu-desktop is based on it
[10:46] <gnomefreak> cagdas: thats fine
[10:46] <gnomefreak> let it be removed
[10:46] <cagdas> gnomefreak: ok
[10:46] <anubis> gnomefreak: i did
[10:46] <hawkaloogie> is there a terminal emulator that can save state? like tabs and what I was doing in those tabs? (tab 1: tail -f /var/log/apache. tab 2: tail -f /var/log/kernel. etc...)
[10:46] <gnomefreak> anubis: you didnt do it right
[10:46] <anubis> gnomefreak: enlight me then pls
[10:46] <cagdas> gnomefreak: so, I've removed
[10:47] <gnomefreak> anubis: type gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and paste the file to pastebin
[10:47] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[10:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:47] <cagdas> gnomefreak: but still I can't install firefox plugin
[10:47] <edscho1> hi
[10:47] <edscho1> I have a question about Ubuntu universe
[10:47] <gnomefreak> edscho1: ask
[10:48] <tonyyarusso> edscho1: When you have a question, just ask
[10:48] <SpaceFrog> anyone used gAIM beta 2?
[10:48] <gnomefreak> cagdas: i dont know and i cant test it right now im not on dapper
[10:48] <gnomefreak> SpaceFrog: yes
[10:48] <SpaceFrog> gnomefreak: how is it?
[10:48] <SpaceFrog> stable?
[10:48] <gnomefreak> its ok
[10:48] <gnomefreak> no
[10:48] <gnomefreak> beta
[10:48] <edscho1> The Universe freeze for Edgy is I think tomorrow -- and I'm concerned that the package python-scipy is going to be out of date. I would like to see a sync / merge with Debian unstable
[10:48] <cagdas> gnomefreak: what I actually want to learn is does previous commands which are canceled can affect the latter ones?
[10:48] <gnomefreak> ed 26th
[10:48] <anubis> gnomefreak: whats a pastebin
[10:49] <AbortD> is tehre a windows media player codec for windows?
[10:49] <anubis> gnomefreak: the file its open, what do i do now
[10:49] <gnomefreak> edscho1: file a bug report and the freeze is the 26th
[10:49] <gnomefreak> anubis: paste it to pastebin
[10:49] <anubis> gnomefreak: ok, what do i do now
[10:50] <gnomefreak> click send in pastebin and give me the link
[10:50] <edscho1> I'm one of the scipy developers. Is a bug report the best thing I can do to get the latest Debian unstable version into Edgy? I'd like to join as a MOTU too, but not before 26/9
[10:50] <gnomefreak> edscho1: go ask in #ubuntu-motu but they will tell you the same thing about filing a bug
[10:50] <edscho1> Thanks, gnomefreak
[10:51] <cagdas> gnomefreak: did you get my question or is it boring :)
[10:51] <gnomefreak> cagdas: i said i cant help you im not on dapper
[10:51] <gnomefreak> so i cant see what is going on with it
[10:51] <gnomefreak> lastnode_: you on dapper?
[10:51] <cagdas> gnomefreak: my last question was a meta-question but
[10:51] <gnomefreak> didnt see it
[10:51] <ziro01> sup?
[10:51] <lastnode_> gnomefreak, yessir
[10:52] <crimsun> edscho1: it's already in Edgy.
[10:52] <gnomefreak> lastnode_: can you install totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin
[10:52] <gnomefreak> and get it to work?
[10:52] <crimsun> edscho1: python-scipy | 0.5.1-3ubuntu2 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages
[10:52] <AbortD> is tehre a windows media player codec for windows?
[10:52] <gnomefreak> !w32codecs
[10:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:53] <lastnode_> gnomefreak, give me a page to check :P
[10:53] <gnomefreak> AbortD: read those links
[10:53] <cagdas> AbortD: w32codecs
[10:53] <gnomefreak> lol
[10:53] <gnomefreak> lastnode_: i dont have one
[10:53] <gnomefreak> cagdas: do you have a webpage to check with?
[10:53] <gnomefreak> andrew_: im waiting for the pastebin page
[10:53] <cagdas> gnomefreak: the plugin?
[10:54] <gnomefreak> cagdas: yes a site to check the plugin
[10:54] <lastnode_> cagdas, im checking it for you, give me a page to load
[10:54] <cagdas> lastnode: http://mizah.milliyet.com.tr/komikvideo.asp?id=83
[10:54] <AbortD> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:54] <AbortD> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:54] <AbortD> is only available from another source
[10:55] <ezech> hi
[10:55] <lastnode> AbortD, architecture?
[10:55] <lastnode> ezech, hi
[10:55] <gnomefreak> AbortD: read the links ubotu gave
[10:55] <cagdas> AbortD: you should add other repisetories
[10:55] <gnomefreak> AbortD: its not in the repos
[10:55] <thenetduck> hey can I get some help with my right clicker?
[10:55] <gnomefreak> !w32codecs
[10:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:55] <cagdas> lastnode: Does it work?
[10:55] <edscho1> Thanks, crimsun. It's gone in in the last 7 days or so. Great.
[10:56] <lastnode> cagdas, loading
[10:56] <thenetduck> my right clicker doesn't work in gnome anyone know how to make it work /
[10:56] <gnomefreak> cagdas: what arch are you on
[10:56] <AbortD> can gstreamer use the codecs?
[10:56] <ziro01> secret
[10:56] <gnomefreak> AbortD: yes thats what it does
[10:56] <AbortD> oh
[10:56] <cagdas> 6.06
[10:56] <gnomefreak> AbortD: btw mplayer plays most of them by default
[10:56] <lastnode> cagdas, architecture, not version
[10:56] <gnomefreak> AbortD: 64bit, ppc, 386
[10:56] <cagdas> i386
[10:57] <AbortD> ?
[10:57] <AbortD> 386
[10:57] <lastnode> ok, on the page i can see the media window load, but it's taking an awfully long time to load. slow server?
[10:57] <gnomefreak> AbortD: no not you
[10:57] <gnomefreak> AbortD: install mplayer
[10:57] <cagdas> lastnode: probably
[10:57] <AbortD> you said abortd :P
[10:57] <AbortD> mplayer is installed
[10:57] <cagdas> lastnode: my problem is installing the package
[10:57] <gnomefreak> AbortD: it was a typo
[10:57] <lastnode> AbortD, mplayer <filename>
[10:57] <lastnode> cagdas, package installed fine
[10:57] <AbortD> yeah well
[10:57] <tomcatt> !cvs
[10:57] <cagdas> let me repeat my question people, may be you missed my question
[10:57] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[10:58] <AbortD> i would like to view wmv files on webpages
[10:58] <cagdas> what I actually want to learn is does previous commands which are canceled can affect the latter ones?
[10:58] <lastnode> tomcatt, try and use /msg ubotu cvs
[10:58] <gnomefreak> !wmv
[10:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:58] <gnomefreak> AbortD: read those links
[10:58] <cagdas> did you get my question?
[10:58] <lastnode> cagdas, nope
[10:58] <cagdas> I mean I have given a command to apt-get which I canceled
[10:59] <lastnode> if the package wasnt installed, or was still being downloaded, it wont be there
[10:59] <cagdas> the command was "sudo apt-get install totem-xine-firefox-plugin" which wanted to remove gstreamer
[10:59] <cagdas> I've asnwered no
[10:59] <gnomefreak> cagdas: xine is not gstreamer
[10:59] <cagdas> and I have given the command "sudo apt-get install totem-gstreamer-firefoxiplugin"
[10:59] <edscho1> What's the Ubuntu-supported way to set the /usr/bin/python link to point to python-2.5 in Edgy?
[10:59] <gnomefreak> cagdas: you cant have totem and totem-xine on same system at same time
[10:59] <cagdas> but it says it cannot find gstreamer
[11:00] <cagdas> gnomefreak: yes, I know this
[11:00] <lastnode> edscho1, it should have done that for you
 is print screen works for takin screenshots during ubuntu installation process ?
[11:00] <gnomefreak> cagdas: install totem-gstreamer
[11:00] <root__> how to know what is my ubuntu version :P
[11:00] <edscho1> lastnode: no, still /usr/bin/python -> python2.4
[11:00] <cagdas> gnomefreak: I've it, I've installed it severeal times again again
[11:00] <edscho1> Does it require a dpkg-reconfigure?
[11:00] <thenetduck> gnomefreak my right clicker on gnome doesn't work, do you know why this might be happening?
[11:00] <gnomefreak> muhammad: no  i think you have to do that in a vm session
[11:00] <cagdas> gnomefreak: maybe I have found a bug or something
[11:00] <lastnode> edscho1, yeah try that. or just use a soft link?
[11:00] <muhammad> gnomefreak aha ok thx
[11:01] <gnomefreak> thenetduck: reboot
[11:01] <thenetduck> gnomefreak just did nothing changed
[11:01] <AbortD> i cant figure this out....
[11:01] <gnomefreak> thenetduck: what did you do before it stopped working?
[11:01] <cagdas> gnomefreak: I mean although I have canceled the previous command apt system behaves as if it doesn't have gstreamer
[11:01] <edscho1> lastnode: yes, I could just overwrite the symlink myself ... but i was thinking that's a hack
[11:01] <gnomefreak> AbortD: its 2 command
[11:01] <gnomefreak> s
[11:01] <AbortD> nm
[11:01] <lastnode> edscho1, yeah, did you dist-upgrade?
[11:01] <Cyraq> i now declare that ubuntu sucks as a distro and that zenwalk is much, much, much, better.
[11:01] <agentofbsd> hi i just wanna ask is all the users in ubuntu box can use sudo and all users can edit the box is that right
[11:01] <AbortD> found something i think will help
[11:02] <Cyraq> thank you for yyour time.
[11:02] <lastnode> Cyraq, dissing distros goes in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:02] <thenetduck> gnomefreak:  I had an Xubunt install and did a sudo aptitude install ubuntu
[11:02] <gnomefreak> Cyraq: we dont care about your opinions and this isnt the place for it
[11:02] <edscho1> Does anyone know how to get a list of packages that can be reconfigured with dpkg-reconfigure? It would be a subset of all .debs installed on the system.
[11:02] <gnomefreak> thenetduck: i dont know than
[11:02] <gnomefreak> edscho1: all packages can be
[11:03] <AbortD> where does terminal download t hings to?
[11:03] <gnomefreak> home
[11:03] <|thunder> pwd
[11:03] <AbortD> thanks gnomefreak
[11:03] <gnomefreak> unless your cd'ed somewhere else
[11:03] <anubis> can anyone walk me trough upgrading from hoary to dapper
[11:03] <AbortD> oh
[11:03] <|thunder> most will DL to present working directory
[11:03] <AbortD> i see
[11:04] <cagdas> so no idea :(
[11:05] <anubis> can anyone walk me trough upgrading from hoary to dapper
[11:05] <SurfnKid> how can i stop my cdrom from spinning non stop
[11:05] <lastnode> anubis, change repos, apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:05] <barahona> holaaa
[11:05] <anubis> lastnode: dude change repos to what
[11:05] <|thunder> SurfnKid, umount it
[11:05] <barahona> necesito ayuda
[11:06] <barahona> en espaol
[11:06] <lastnode> anubis, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:06] <anubis> lastnode: i have benn using linux for merely hours
[11:06] <|thunder> anubis, too dapper repos
[11:06] <barahona> donde puedo entrar?
[11:06] <lastnode> anubis, replace hoary with dapper
[11:06] <lastnode> anubis, search for all instances of "hoary", replace with "dapper"
[11:06] <lastnode> anubis, sudo apt-get update
[11:06] <AbortD> i installed the codecs but the webpage video isnt working
[11:06] <lastnode> anubis, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:06] <edscho1> anubis: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_upgrade_from_Hoary_Hedgehog_-.3E_Breezy_Badger_-.3E_Dapper_Drake
[11:06] <anubis> ok ty all
[11:06] <lastnode> anubis, but id recommend upgrading to breezy first
[11:07] <anubis> lastnode: that is what i was about to tell you
[11:07] <xopher> Anyone here who knows how I to compile l-r-m for a specific kernel version instead of the latest one?
[11:08] <AbortD> gnomefreak, i installed the codecs but the webpage video isnt working
[11:08] <|thunder> you need mozilla plugins
[11:09] <AbortD> when  i try to play the video it says windows media player cant play it
[11:11] <gnomefreak> angelo: i told you change the word hoary to breezy than save file than run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:11] <gnomefreak> anot angelo
[11:11] <gnomefreak> anubis: read what i just typed
[11:11] <AbortD> should  i get kaffeine?
[11:12] <gnomefreak> AbortD: did you restart the music player?
[11:12] <AbortD> what do you mean?
[11:12] <gnomefreak> AbortD: what music player are you using to play what type of file
[11:12] <AbortD> its a wmv
[11:13] <AbortD> and it opens within the webpage
[11:13] <|thunder> can anyone name the app in the bottom left corner of this image ?  http://www.zenwalk.org/uploads/img448a50b82b3e8.png
[11:13] <AbortD> so i do not know
[11:13] <gnomefreak> AbortD: restart firefox than look in about:plugins again
[11:13] <AbortD> wow what os is that?
[11:14] <xopher> Anyone here who has the murrine-0.12.tar.gz source archive? I cant seem to download it from cimi's homepage. Id appreciate if someone sent it over. Or a amd64 deb of it ofcourse
[11:14] <gnomefreak> AbortD: is the wmv file encoded using DRM?
[11:15] <AbortD> huh?
[11:15] <gnomefreak> DRM= Digital Rights Media
[11:15] <AbortD> no
[11:16] <kamui> here's something wierd.  I put my icons on my gnome desktop to the right hand side of the screen.  All new icons automatically are placed underneath the last icon, instead of like windows automatically to the farthest top left.  I was very impressed and it was very unexpected
[11:16] <AbortD> i dont think i have the plugin for video installed
[11:16] <gnomefreak> AbortD: what plugin exactly
[11:16] <MrNaz> whats a good programmers text editor for Ubuntu? preferably one thats included in the repositories
[11:16] <AbortD> xine
[11:17] <gnomefreak> xine wont play wmv files
[11:17] <kamui> MrNaz: vim
[11:17] <kamui> gnomefreak: yea it will
[11:17] <AbortD> vlc?
[11:17] <Ademan> has anyone successfully installed the new beta NVIDIA drivers?
[11:17] <gnomefreak> Ademan: yes but they cant be used in dapper
[11:17] <Ademan> gnomefreak: why not?
[11:17] <lastnode> MrNaz, vim
[11:17] <anubis> lastnode: dude i replaced all the intances of hoary but this line "deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _breezy Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / breezy main restricted" is giving me trouble at the update, what should i change it to
[11:18] <Chris_Johnson> Quick question from a total beginner: I installed Ubuntu for AMD64 yesterday, but need to get GTS (http://gts.sourceforge.net/) which doesn't seem to want to install by APT. The package filenames all end in i386 - can I run these on an AMD64 installation?
[11:18] <AbortD> kamui will vlc work?
[11:18] <kamui> AbortD: I don't use vlc, I use xine and totem
[11:18] <fdoving> anubis: remove it, or add a # at the beginning of the line.
[11:18] <kamui> AbortD: both play wmv files fine, you need the win32 codecs
[11:18] <gnomefreak> anubis: put a # infront of that
[11:18] <anubis> dont i need that line?
[11:18] <gnomefreak> and take the # away from the rest of the lines that say deb http
[11:18] <lastnode> anubis, kill that line
[11:18] <barahona> #espaolubunto
[11:19] <gnomefreak> barahona: #ubuntu-es
[11:19] <lastnode> !es
[11:19] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:19] <AbortD> gnomefreak, if totem is already installed will it support movies inside of webpageS?
[11:19] <anubis> ok ill do it
[11:19] <gnomefreak> AbortD: with the right encoders yes encoders = codecs
[11:19] <fdoving> anubis: it's just for instalalling stuff from the installcd. you don't need it if you prefer to download fresh packages from the internet.
[11:19] <anubis> ok
[11:20] <kamui> AbortD: completely depends on your browser and its config
[11:20] <AbortD> ok i didnt have the totem gstreamer firefox plugin installed is that what i should install?
[11:20] <tony759> goodmorning everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:20] <Ademan> gnomefreak: why can't I use the new NVIDIA driver with dapper?
[11:20] <gnomefreak> |thunder: give me package name and ill tell you
[11:20] <lastnode> good morning tony759
[11:21] <gnomefreak> Ademan: they are for X7.1
[11:21] <kamui> geez, its late as all hell
[11:21] <Ademan> oh
[11:21] <lastnode> Ademan, you can use them with edgy
[11:21] <kamui> I've got to get some sleep
[11:21] <|thunder> gnomefreak, ok, brb
[11:21] <Ademan> gnomefreak: can i backport 7.1?
[11:21] <kamui> until tomorrow
[11:21] <gnomefreak> Ademan: no not a good idea
[11:21] <Ademan> :-(  ok then how do i uninstall the beta driver?
[11:21] <gnomefreak> Ademan: from nvidia.com?
[11:21] <Ademan> yes
[11:22] <gnomefreak> Ademan: sudo sh Nvidia........<rest of file name>  --uninstall
[11:22] <Ademan> k thanks
[11:23] <|thunder> gnomefreak, ndiswrapper-utils 1.8-0ubuntu2  is latest for dapper. I dont know where to find which version of ndistools it uses.
[11:23] <tony759> can someoene help me were i can find graphicals know how to work in shell managing files tar.gz and tar.bz2
[11:23] <gnomefreak> |thunder: 1.1-5 0
[11:23] <subpar> |thunder: that's for wireless right
[11:23] <|thunder> subpar, Yes
[11:24] <subpar> sweet, I was just trying to tell my friend about that package cause she can't get wireless to work
[11:24] <subpar> and I couldn't think of the name
[11:24] <subpar> haha, what are the odds
[11:24] <gnomefreak> !info ndiswrapper-utils
[11:24] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-utils: Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 27 kB, installed size 136 kB
[11:24] <gnomefreak> !info ndiswrapper-utils edgy
[11:24] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-utils: Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1-5 (edgy), package size 8 kB, installed size 48 kB
[11:25] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[11:25] <lastnode> subpar, what wifi driver does she haev?
[11:25] <|thunder> 1.8 dapper vs 1.1 edgy ?
[11:25] <subpar> I'm not sure
[11:25] <subpar> my wireless has worked fine since the first time I popped in the live cd, so I never really had to investigate it further
[11:26] <subpar> but I remember reading about that package before I installed ubuntu when I was researching
[11:26] <|thunder> subpar, mine too, but its capped at 1Mbit/s for some reason. so I want ndistools to work, but this ancient version does not support my rt2500 chipset very well.
[11:26] <Ademan> what vector drawing programs do you guys use? I'm currently using inkscape but I don't know if there are better options, more fully featured options, or what
[11:28] <jonnytheloony> Hello. I'm trying to start programming using the GTK+ toolkit and I'd like to know what packages I need? Any help?
[11:28] <|thunder> Ademan, inkscape is all ive ever heard of, so its prolly the best/most popular/most active development.
[11:29] <Ademan> jonnytheloony: i reccomend installing the newest version of anjuta  along with libgtk2.0-dev
[11:29] <jonnytheloony> anjuta?
[11:30] <Ademan> it's an IDE like visual studio in windows, or dev-c++
[11:30] <jonnytheloony> oh rright
[11:30] <jonnytheloony> can i get these using apt-get or synaptic?
[11:30] <Ademan> both are available through synaptic
[11:31] <Morrowyn> what about kdevelop or eclipse with cdt
[11:31] <jonnytheloony> i can't find the libgtk package
[11:31] <jonnytheloony> i've got libgdl-1-common
[11:31] <Morrowyn> or monodevelop and gtk# ?
[11:31] <Ademan> libgtk2.0-dev is the exact package name, what repositories do you have avaiable?
[11:31] <jonnytheloony> just a sec
[11:31] <Ademan> Morrowyn: he clearly isn't using c#...
[11:31] <gnomefreak> !info libgtk2.0-dev
[11:31] <ubotu> libgtk2.0-dev: Development files for the GTK+ library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.20-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2168 kB, installed size 8012 kB
[11:32] <gnomefreak> Ademan: its in main
[11:32] <jonnytheloony> nope c or c++
[11:32] <jonnytheloony> ok repositories..
[11:33] <Morrowyn> :)
[11:33] <jonnytheloony> it's /etc/apt/sources.list right?
[11:33] <Morrowyn> thought he wanted to use gtk
[11:33] <Morrowyn> yup
[11:33] <Ademan> jonnytheloony: yes, but you shouldn't need any extra repositories to get it
[11:34] <we2by> what to install to get the command wlanctl-ng??
[11:34] <Morrowyn> uncomment all the stuff, thats what i always do :) and maybe add multiverse or something
[11:34] <Derevko> I'm trying to build my custom kernel (debian way), but I have an issue:
[11:34] <Derevko> The UTS Release version in include/linux/version.h "" does not match current version: "2.6.18-ck1" Please correct this.
[11:34] <Derevko> How can I fix this?
[11:35] <jonnytheloony> ok got it
[11:35] <jonnytheloony> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiversedeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[11:35] <jonnytheloony> ## MAJOR BUG FIX UPDATES produced after the final release
[11:35] <jonnytheloony> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[11:35] <jonnytheloony> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[11:35] <jonnytheloony> ## UBUNTU SECURITY UPDATES
[11:35] <jonnytheloony> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[11:35] <subpar> hah
[11:35] <Ademan> owned
[11:35] <Ademan> lol
[11:35] <doddy> can someone offer a little advice - just installed ubuntu (first linux attempt) and have upgraded latest kernel using package manager - it has noe left me with 2 kernel options on boot - how can I get rid of this? and should i get rid of it?
[11:35] <Morrowyn> btw, does ubuntu have default smp support in the kernel? or do i need to recompile the kernel?
[11:36] <Morrowyn> doddy, edit the menu.lst in /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove the stuff you dont want. Basically you can choose between kernels, since your older ones are not deleted , in case something goes wrong
[11:37] <arnducky_> Morrowyn, telll Doddy about the Gnome or KDE boot manager applets -- tthey make it much easier
[11:37] <gnomefreak> Morrowyn: we have smp kernels
[11:37] <doddy> thanks morrowyn but this will only get rid of it from the list - the kernel will still be on the machine, is there an easy way of getting rid of it from the machine or is this a little dangerous?
[11:37] <gnomefreak> doddy: use synaptic to remove old kernels
[11:38] <arnducky_> also, you don't have to delete lines in Linux files, just put a '#' in front of them and they will be ignored, doddy
[11:38] <Morrowyn> gnomefreak, thanks, ill look into it
[11:38] <gnomefreak> doddy: click the ones you want to remove nad click fully remove
[11:38] <lastnode> also, arent old kernels periodically removed?
[11:38] <gnomefreak> lastnode: no
[11:38] <lastnode> my bad
[11:38] <lastnode> i thought apt did that
[11:38] <lastnode> on ugprade
[11:38] <gnomefreak> cant
[11:38] <arnducky_> That way if you mess up, you can just delete the # again and the line will be read into memory as it was before
[11:39] <gnomefreak> lastnode: that would be unsafe because apt doent know if new kernel will work
[11:39] <doddy> and its perfectly safe to remove too? it wont get rid of important modules or anything?
[11:39] <ucordes> can anybody hand out a link with a complete guide to 'aticonfig' ?
[11:39] <gnomefreak> doddy: no
[11:39] <gnomefreak> !ati
[11:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:40] <doddy> thanks for your help guys - I will go give it a go
[11:40] <arnducky_> doddy, wait till after you boot successfully a few times and see if everything works before deleting your old kernel
[11:40] <arnducky_> gooddnight all
[11:41] <doddy> yes ive been using the latest for a couple of days now - in fact only used the old kernel once. upgrade was the first thing i did after install
[11:41] <ucordes> gnomefreak: thank you but i can not find a list with all comamnds for aticonfig there
[11:41] <opexoc> arnducky_: I have waken up already! :)
[11:41] <arnducky_> have a nice day then
[11:42] <arnducky_> kwakkwak
[11:42] <doddy> I am just checking the package manager now - it only has the original kernel 2.6.15.25 listed not the one I have upgraded too
[11:42] <doddy> if i get another update how would I be able to get rid of the current one?
[11:42] <lastnode> gnomefreak, i mean 3 kernels behind, or something
[11:42] <gnomefreak> lastnode: nope
[11:42] <lastnode> doddy, get rid?
[11:43] <gnomefreak> doddy: its a good idea to keep 2 kernel versions on yor systema t alol times
[11:43] <gnomefreak> system at all times
[11:43] <doddy> sorry i mean delete the current kernel when a newer version comes along becuase i cant see it listed in package manager - only the original one
[11:44] <doddy> is that just in case one goes wrong there is always the backup system?
[11:44] <octan> Heya all.. im ssh'ing to to my server that runs debian sarge.. the workstation i use is kubuntu. im trying to startup a X application.. gedit to be presice. but it wount start up. im getting a error. so im woundering if someone can help me out here a bit,  please take a look @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24630
[11:44] <subpar> doddy: pretty much
[11:44] <ucordes> gnomefreak: ...
[11:46] <devilsadvocate> try sshing as another user
[11:46] <gnomefreak> ucordes: try google i dont have any ati cards any longer
[11:46] <ucordes> gnomefreak: ok. why did you switch to nvidia?
[11:46] <lastnode> ucordes, i have ati. what's the problem?
[11:47] <ucordes> lastnode: hi. i wanna set texture filtering, anti aliasing and stuff
[11:47] <gnomefreak> ucordes: i like it better
[11:47] <ucordes> lastnode: and first of all the power mode
[11:47] <lastnode> ucordes, tried ati tools?
[11:48] <ucordes> lastnode: no. is this a package to install via apt-get ?
[11:49] <lastnode> ucordes, for accelaration settings - fglrx-control
[11:49] <lastnode> !info fglrx-control
[11:49] <ubotu> fglrx-control: Control panel for the ATI graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is optional. Version 8.25.18+2.6.15.11-5 (dapper), package size 71 kB, installed size 340 kB
[11:50] <sharap> terminal server client's scrollbars never work right for me.  They don't look right first of all, and when I scroll down or right I can't scroll back up or left.
[11:51] <Bacaruda> for some reason i cant install a source I found I configured it and when I go to "make install" it says "bash make not found"
[11:51] <doddy> ahh maybe i looked at the incorrect place on package manager. there are 3 things that i think will relate to what kernel i have linux-386 (version 2.6.15.25 under base system), linux-image-2.6.15-26-386 and linux-image-2.6.15-27-386 (under base restricted). Is it the last two that will be the actual kernels used? so is the first one the source to an old kernel?
[11:52] <sharap> Bacaruda, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:52] <ucordes> hey lastnode: i have this fglrx-control installed but i dunno how to run it
[11:52] <ucordes> lastnode: what is the command?
[11:53] <Bacaruda> awesome thank you sharap
[11:53] <Vegeta^> Why is it that I almost always has to disable and re-enable my network interface before it will work (that is I can go online), after a computer reboot?
[11:53] <lastnode> ucordes, sory ive never used it. google?
[11:53] <sharap> ucordes, fireglcontrol
[11:54] <dv5000> right after grub i get some messages but i cant write them down because it goes to fast is there some log for things like that?
[11:54] <ucordes> fireglcontrol: command not found
[11:54] <sharap> Vegeta^, wireless? wired? dhcp or static ip?
[11:55] <sharap> ucordes, dpkg -L flgrx-control <--- run that, see what it put in /usr/bin
[11:56] <ruzgar> how can i adjust my gamma and contrast setting in xorg
[11:56] <subpar> here's a fun one.. I'm trying to install eggdrop, and I got this when I was trying to run ./configure
[11:56] <TheGateKeeper> anyone use ekiga?
[11:56] <Vegeta^> sharap: It's not wireless, I have it on dhcp. I have deactivated my wireless
[11:56] <subpar> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[11:56] <ROBOd> hello guys
[11:56] <ucordes> sharap: it says fglrx-control isn't installed
[11:56] <ROBOd> i have dapper-backports and amarok-latest
[11:57] <sharap> ucordes, how did you go about installing it?
[11:57] <AbortD> subpar, do you have build-essentials?
[11:57] <ROBOd> i want to force apt to get amarok packages only from amarok-latest (of kubuntu)
[11:57] <subpar> not sure
[11:57] <ROBOd> how do i do this?
[11:57] <subpar> lemme check
[11:57] <ucordes> sudo apt-get install fglrx-control ?
[11:57] <subpar> AbortD: that's weird, it couldn't fing that package
[11:58] <AbortD> subpar, if you dont know you probably dont :P
[11:58] <Sh4d0x> hi there
[11:58] <sharap> Vegeta^, dunno what to tell you, sorry
[11:58] <Kramusha> Hi. How can I configure Gnome to this > When I take the mouse to the border of the monitor, then an other "monitor" should be activated. (sry for my english)
[11:58] <Vegeta^> ok
[11:58] <subpar> well I'm running on pretty much a fresh install, so I don't know if it came included
[11:58] <sharap> subpar, build-essential
[11:58] <Sh4d0x> does somenone know the name of the package which let you create a mac starter at the bottem?
[11:58] <sharap> subpar, it doesn't come included, you'll have to install it
[11:58] <subpar> aha, no trailing s
[11:59] <subpar> no wonder it couldn't find build-essentials hehe
[11:59] <subpar> kthnx :)
[11:59] <doddy> subpar - you need to include build-essentials to get compilers etc working
[11:59] <ikonia_> how do I make gnome-desktop xinerama aware (so the task bar goes across both screens)
[11:59] <sharap> ucordes, try installing it again with the same command
[11:59] <ruzgar> i cant install flash
[11:59] <LinuxUser> hi all
[12:00] <ruzgar> i have insatlled it
[12:00] <LinuxUser> i'm getting a grub error 17
[12:00] <ruzgar> but when i sudo update-flashplugin
[12:00] <sharap> doddy, it's build-essential (no plural)
[12:00] <LinuxUser> i already tried to reinstall grub into the mbr
[12:00] <ruzgar> gives that error
[12:00] <doddy> oh yes sorry
[12:00] <ruzgar> automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes
[12:00] <Kramusha> ruzgar, with FireFox?
[12:01] <LinuxUser> but it does not find the stage1 file, but it's in the /boot/grub dir
[12:01] <drumline_> Is there any reason to need a /boot partition?    Does it hurt to just make one big partition and have /boot inside of it?
[12:01] <ruzgar> no i have installed flash with synaptic
[12:01] <drumline_> LinuxUser: ReiserFS file system?
[12:01] <ruzgar> then i wrote sudo update-flashplugin
[12:01] <sharap> ruzgar, I was having some problems with it too, but a more recent package solved it... do a sudo apt-get update and try to install/upgrade it again
[12:01] <LinuxUser> drumline, i tried ext3 and now it's reiserfs
[12:01] <Sh4d0x> ruzgar: are you on ubuntu?
[12:01] <LinuxUser> both the same error
[12:01] <ruzgar> yes
[12:01] <Sh4d0x> ruzgar: if so, try http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/08/install-mozilla-flash-plugin-in-ubuntu.html
[12:02] <Bacaruda> how do you make an app launch at startup?
[12:02] <Sh4d0x> ruzgar: it helped for a lot of people
[12:02] <ruzgar> ok thanks
[12:02] <drumline_> LinuxUser: I got that error with ReiserFS...   I figured because the livecd didn't have the grub stuff loaded for reiserfs...   Are you using a livecd?
[12:02] <LinuxUser> i downloaded the offical livecd
[12:03] <sharap> Bacaruda, system -> preferences -> sessions -> startup programs
[12:03] <Bacaruda> thxc
[12:03] <ucordes> sharap: it won't run either after reinstall
[12:03] <Sh4d0x> does someone know the name of a docklet package for ubuntu?
[12:03] <LinuxUser> how could i fix that without downloading a new iso? xD
[12:03] <sharap> ucordes, try dpkg -L flgrx-control on it again.
[12:03] <xenex> if i used ubuntu and i wanted to play guild wars, how would i do that?
[12:03] <xenex> i tried cedega but it wouldn't work
[12:04] <ucordes> sharap: ok. btw what does it do?
[12:04] <xenex> could i use vm for windows?
[12:04] <ucordes> sharap: same output!
[12:04] <sharap> ucordes, it lists all the files and their locations that the package installed
[12:04] <dd> what are u guys talking about?
[12:04] <drumline_> linux__alien: yeah...  I don't think the official live cd supports reiserfs in the grub config stuff...   I spent some time with it and couldn't get it to work..    That's interesting that it didn't work with ext3 though.   Maybe I got the wrong "why" or you're experiencing something different.   You're doing the root (hd0,0)  then setup (hd0,0) stuff correct?
[12:04] <AbortD> on a previous install of ubuntu i was able to put my cursor over a music file and it would play but now i cant how do i change that?
[12:05] <Sh4d0x> solved my question, thx anyway for listening to it :)
[12:05] <sharap> ucordes, verify through synaptic that the package is installed... dpkg isn't seeing it and the bin isn't there so it's likely not installed properly
[12:05] <ucordes> xenex: 3d support is only available under vmware-workstation. i tried it out but didn't work
[12:05] <LinuxUser> drumline right, i also tried grub-install --no-floppy /dev/hda
[12:05] <sharap> AbortD, do you have the restricted formats installed?  Try mousing over an ogg file to see if it will play.
[12:05] <LinuxUser> but alwasy if i try to root (hd0,1) (my root part) it says no disk found or somethink like that
[12:06] <ucordes> 8.28.8-1 is stated as installed in the synaptic
[12:06] <AbortD> sharap i do because the file is open
[12:06] <rambo3> drumline, setup (hd0)
[12:06] <AbortD> and i am listening to it
[12:06] <Bacaruda> ive seen a lot of screens of a Desktop Manager that looks like OS X wich is that?
[12:06] <Sh4d0x> if some other people also are interested in a mac docklet for ubuntu => sudo apt-get install Gdesklets
[12:06] <AbortD> docklet?
[12:06] <Bacaruda> dock
[12:07] <AbortD> dock for boats?
[12:07] <AbortD> what kind of dock?
[12:07] <ucordes> Baracuda: you can use xgl with the mac theme!
[12:07] <Bacaruda> have you ever used OS X?
[12:07] <LinuxUser> is there a way to use lilo instead of grub?
[12:07] <AbortD> nope
[12:07] <|thunder> i tripple boot ubuntu/osx/xp
[12:07] <sharap> AbortD, run gconf-editor and navigate to apps -> nautilus -> preferences -> preview_sound
[12:07] <Bacaruda> ucordes where do I get the mac theme though to begin with
[12:07] <ucordes> it is inclued in the latest versions of xgl
[12:07] <ucordes> by quinn
[12:08] <|thunder> drop it in the gnome theme manager.
[12:08] <Bacaruda> isnt XGL a bitch to install?
[12:08] <Samuli^> bacaruda, wasn't for me.
[12:08] <xenex> ucordes: have you tried guild wars with cedega?
[12:08] <ucordes> Bacaruda: for me it wasn't and i'm not a techie at all
[12:08] <|thunder> Bacaruda, can be, especially on amd64
[12:08] <ruzgar> !gamma
[12:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gamma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:08] <Bacaruda> im on x86 with NVIDIA
[12:08] <mcarolan> has anybody got XGL to work on edgy?
[12:08] <ruzgar> how can i change my gamma settings
[12:08] <sharap> Bacaruda, kde is a lot more like mac than gnome.  There are also docklet programs that mimic mac's behavior for gnome, but I can't remember what the package is called for the life of me
[12:08] <ucordes> xenex: no. i don't like cedega personally because it is non free
[12:08] <chronoAZ> how can i test if my courier-imap is working properly ?
[12:08] <LinuxUser> if i chroot into my current system and update, could it probably help with that grub error?
[12:08] <Samuli^> bacaruda, that's pretty much the easiest system to install it on, then.
[12:09] <xenex> ucordes: well, what do you recommend i do if i want to play guild wars in ubuntu?
[12:09] <|thunder> sharap, enlightenment
[12:09] <|thunder> perhaps
[12:09] <Bacaruda> Samuli^ care to walk me through it then?
[12:09] <ucordes> xenex: let me take a look
[12:09] <Samuli^> bacaruda, nope. Just follow the guides.
[12:09] <Samuli^> !xgl > Bacaruda
[12:09] <AbortD> sharap it says local only
[12:09] <Bacaruda> haha awesome wanna link me to one then
[12:09] <LinuxUser> xenex, use the newest cedega version
[12:09] <Bacaruda> whoops thx
[12:09] <main2> anyone succesfully built vlc 0.8.5?
[12:09] <Samuli^> no problem :)
[12:09] <LinuxUser> but don't use the cvs version, use the paid one
[12:09] <xenex> LinuxUser: why do you say that?
[12:10] <xenex> i used the paid one
[12:10] <LinuxUser> xenex, it should work then
[12:10] <ucordes> xenex: ever tried wine?
[12:10] <sharap> AbortD, mine too, and my previewing works.  Try cutting off all other sounds and mousing over a sound file.
[12:10] <xenex> ucordes: i don't know how to work it
[12:10] <Bacaruda> XGL or AIGLX
[12:10] <AbortD> i did
[12:10] <AbortD> i need to find a .ogg file to try
[12:10] <ucordes> xenex: see winehq.com for noobie guide
[12:11] <|thunder> AbortD, google one up
[12:11] <sharap> AbortD, ~/Examples has an ogg file, if you haven't gotten rid of that folder
[12:11] <troughton> i am trying to install my laptop and the drivers say i need to put -kernel-source-path can someone explane this to me what do  i need to put?
[12:12] <SAVAS> labas
[12:12] <sharap> anybody else have problems with terminal server client and scrollbars looking/acting funny?
[12:13] <|thunder> troughton, perhaps you are looking for the path where your kernel resides ?
[12:13] <chronoAZ> can anyone help setting up a imap server using courier on ubuntu
[12:13] <ucordes> sharap: same output on dpkg -L flgrx-control
[12:13] <doks> any ideas where I can find a good monitor program for wirless? (to scan for base stations)?
[12:14] <|thunder> doks, network-manager
[12:14] <ucordes> doks: wifi radar ie
[12:14] <troughton> and where would that be thunder ??
[12:14] <lastnode> doks, kismet
[12:14] <doks> it doesnt scan for basestations i have to type it manualy what if i dont know the name?
[12:14] <sharap> chronoAZ, this guide contains help for setting up a mail server, as well as other servers: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06
[12:14] <|thunder> troughton, 'sudo apt-get install network-manager'
[12:15] <sharap> doks, network-manager, wifi radar, or gtkwifi
[12:15] <troughton> network-manager for installing drivers ??
[12:15] <AbortD> no preview with .ogg either
[12:15] <troughton> its the sound i am trying to get working
[12:15] <lastnode> troughton, you need the kernel source
[12:15] <|thunder> nomego_, for finding APs
[12:15] <|thunder> arg
[12:15] <lastnode> troughton, apt-cache search kernel source. find your kernel version, and apt get the correct package
[12:15] <doddy> i have just tried on mine and i have same prob AbortD
[12:16] <AbortD> :(
[12:16] <Mercutio78> hey all. when i plug my ipod in, it appears in Rhythmbox, and i cant view the songs on it. but cant figure out how to put songs on it. is this possible?
[12:16] <doddy> just get a little musicial note pic appearing in a bubble when i hover over it
[12:16] <lastnode> !ipod
[12:16] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[12:16] <AbortD> me too
[12:16] <slime> my flash player works in mozilla but does not work in firefox, can someone help?
[12:16] <lastnode> Mercutio78, nice nick btw. capulets ftw!
[12:16] <Mercutio78> :D thx
[12:16] <sharap> ucordes, sorry, it doesn't look like the package is installing properly, otherwise dpkg -L packagename would show you where the files were.  Once the package is installed correctly the binary for it is fireglcontrol.  I don't know how to help you get the package installed any better though, you've already tried the obvious ways.
[12:16] <|thunder> Mercutio78, ive only done it with gkpod or whatever. worked great. just have to remember to commit the changes.
[12:17] <chronoAZ> sharap, that only says how to install
[12:17] <Mercutio78> yeah |thunder, saw it can be donwe with gkpod, was hoping for a more integrated solution.. ill have a read of the IPodHowto
[12:18] <|thunder> ahh
[12:19] <sharap> chronoAZ, for configurations see the documentation.  I actually followed the guide I sent you and installed ISPConfig as well, which handles configuration of the mail server as well.  However, ISPConfig requires all the other servers to be installed as well.
[12:23] <chronoAZ> rtfm lol nice help
[12:24] <rix> hi
[12:24] <rix> i have a question about google calendar? is anybody using it?
[12:25] <rix> is possible to modify the google events throug the mail evolution?
[12:27] <stefg> !suspend
[12:27] <sharap> rix, I really don't know, but I don't think it's possible to modify them from the client.  It is possible to view them though, both support the iCal standard I believe.
[12:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:27] <stefg> !hibernate
[12:27] <ubotu> hibernate: activates your computer's suspend functionality. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.12-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 66 kB, installed size 328 kB
[12:27] <rix> ok thanks
[12:29] <agente87> hello
[12:29] <agente87> i have a problem, i want to run in my computer two sambas
[12:29] <agente87> one with security user
[12:29] <agente87> another with security share
[12:30] <agente87> is it possible?
[12:30] <stefg> Can anyone shed some light on the fact, that the configuration script for new kernels still remembers that my install was initially on hda2 and consequently lets grub point to my swap partition now after kernel updates... That's sort of, errrm, inconvinient
[12:31] <rambo3> stefg, check device.map
[12:31] <stefg> rambo3: where is that? /etc?
[12:31] <rambo3>  cat /boot/grub/device.map
[12:31] <stefg> ahhh. thx
[12:32] <llama32> my apt is buggered... broken packages - won't install, won't uninstall... some files [eclipse binary, but not the script that starts the binary]  just went missing over the course of a reboot... any ideas? i get shit like parse error in apt's local files...
[12:32] <rambo3> but that shouldn't be the problem
[12:32] <|thunder> I have a question. if I start a bin from the terminal and trail it with an ampersand I can run the bin as well as see the standard output in the terminal. Then I can press enter and get back to bash and the app is still running. Now, if I do 'fg %n' I can get back to the previous bins standard output. Handy. Now, my question is: how can I view the standard output of ANY bin that is running? Not just ones I started in the same bash sessio
[12:32] <|thunder> n?  is there a way to get a list of all process with 'jobs' prehaps ?
[12:33] <jpjacobs> &#602;1;3C
[12:34] <|thunder> llama32; there is a way to re-build the cache. cant remember the exact command. is worth a shot
[12:34] <MrNaz> ok i just cant get ubuntu to run in 1920x1200 i have a nv34 card and have installed nvidia-glx  i did it earlier, so i know the card *can* do it, but i cant remember how :(
[12:35] <LinuxUser> hmm, now i was able to install grub into the mbr but still error 17
[12:35] <MrNaz> but now the highest i can seem to get it to give me is a rather distorted 1600x1200
[12:36] <|thunder> Mr0bvious; add the resolution to /etc/X11/xorg.cong
[12:36] <|thunder> */etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:36] <|thunder> ohh
[12:36] <|thunder> nm
[12:36] <MrNaz> |thunder i have done so
[12:36] <MrNaz> thanks for the sarcasm though
[12:36] <doks> how do I access to "make"
[12:36] <doks> I get no compiler found
[12:37] <lastnode> doks, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:37] <|thunder> ya,  i figured after you said you has 1600x12
[12:37] <doks> ah thanks
[12:37] <lastnode> doks, what are you making?
[12:38] <|thunder> AbortD; what do you mean by preview sound ?
[12:38] <AbortD> when you mouse over a sound
[12:38] <AbortD> it should play it
[12:38] <AbortD> but
[12:38] <AbortD> it doesnt
[12:39] <rambo3> LinuxUser, go to ubuntuforums and take a look at gfxboot howto . you have wrong menu.lst . You could boot by editing it
[12:40] <troughton> i have updated to k8 kernel but is still running of old kernel how do i remove  the old kernel
[12:41] <jhasse> is it possible to watch ratdvd with linux?
[12:41] <rambo3> reboot into new one
[12:41] <Bacaruda> argh I cant get Composite to install
[12:41] <stefg> troughton: first press (esc) at boot time to get a menu. There you can select the new kernel. Test it before you remove the one that you know is working
[12:41] <lastnode> Bacaruda, #ubuntu-xgl, #beryl
[12:41] <troughton> ok brb
[12:42] <Falc2006^> Hi there
[12:42] <mcarolan> hey
[12:42] <Falc2006^> Anyone able to help with an install problem?
[12:43] <mcarolan> depends what the problem is
 you should just ask, not ask to ask ;)
[12:43] <Falc2006^> I'm following an instruction for an install and its asking for a ncftp
[12:44] <Falc2006^> but when I use apt-get install ncftp it cant find it
[12:44] <stefg> rambo3: /boot/grub/device.map says (hd0) /dev/hda, which is correct. Any other suggestions? I really, really searched the system for a place where installation defaults could have been stored, but didn't find it yet
[12:44] <morghanphoenix> I'm getting errors every time I try to update or install anything, I pasted them to pastebin, any help as to what's wrong would be greatly appreciated.
[12:45] <rambo3> stefg, you could google update-grub + wrong . or something like that . man update-grub in terminal too
[12:45] <Falc2006^> have redone the source.list to 3 locations
[12:45] <Bacaruda> for some reason when I try to watch anything on google video or youtube it loses sync in UBUNTU
[12:45] <[Yatta] > is there a way to convert/create deb files from tar.gz ?? I see soem howto's but they seem old
[12:45] <lastnode> !deb
[12:45] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[12:45] <lastnode> hmm
[12:46] <lastnode> [Yatta] , im afraid that's kind of out of scope for this channel. google for a debian packaging guide
[12:46] <rambo3> stefg, http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-grub-devel/2006-August/001959.html
[12:46] <Loetmichel_> hmm, 24h-disconnect
[12:46] <[Yatta] > lastnode, ok thanks....
[12:46] <lastnode> np [Yatta] 
[12:47] <LinuxUser> hmm, lilo is working perfectly
[12:47] <Vanique> hi
[12:47] <LinuxUser> hi
[12:47] <Bacaruda> has anyone had this problem with Flash where it loses sync?
[12:47] <Vanique> does anyone know HOWTO share connection between 2 pcs ?
[12:48] <Bacaruda> what do you mean by "share"
[12:48] <minimec> Vanique: NFS or SAmba? ;)
[12:48] <Vanique> i mean that one pc onnected to internet allows another pc connected to this pc using net
[12:49] <minimec> Vanique: Filesharing or just share the internet connection?
 you'll need a crossover cable if its just a direct connection you want
[12:49] <_tom_> its kinda funny, i installed xfce, and now i have the xubuntu logon screen ;) so if i install kde too, i get the kubuntu logon? :)
[12:49] <stefg> rambo3: aaarrrgh.... I'm blind! I've read menu.lst about ten times, but managed to overlook the little line every time ... thx for enlightening me
[12:49] <Vanique> minimec: but pc1 is kubuntu and pc2 gentoo live, samba wouldnt work
[12:49] <Vanique> easytiger: i have one, but i can not set it and get it working!
[12:49] <Vanique> :/
 : it can be a pain in the ass.. and i've never done it under ubuntu
[12:50] <minimec> Vanique: OK. Install a firewall  like firestarter or so and do a sharing of the connection
[12:50] <|thunder> is there a way to view the terminal output of ANY running bin ?
[12:50] <bibal> 'jour
[12:50] <easytiger> currently i have a debian router and a hub so its simpler to configure than a direct line
[12:51] <Vanique> it looks like that pc1 (gentoo live-no internet avaliable) -----crossover wire----- PC2 ubuntu (all's ok) --------normal cable ----- router -------- other pc with MSwin
[12:52] <Vanique> firestarter wouldnt work, and now it even wouldnt install some errors occur
[12:52] <Lehti> how do I use the copy function in terminal to copy directories? if I do "cp /source/ /destination/" it just says "omitting directory" and it doesn't really copy anything :\
[12:52] <_tom_> Lehti, use cp -r
[12:52] <Vanique> if some one wish to elp, please msg me cuz there is too big conjection on the channel :)
[12:52] <|thunder> or -R
[12:53] <rambo3> use -R
[12:53] <Lehti> o/
[12:53] <minimec> Vanique: Ok. Firewall Builder; GuardDog; Bastille Firewall ;)
[12:53] <stefg> http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/3/58/ <- script for settings up ICS on ubuntu
[12:53] <MrNaz> whats a good programmers text editor for Ubuntu? preferably one thats included in the repositories
[12:53] <Vanique> minimec: and you sure that its enough to get it working ?
[12:54] <ikonia_> Hmmm, has anyone setup a printer for inkscape before ?
[12:54] <ikonia_> its wants to use "lp"
[12:54] <Vanique> witn no changing manually any ything ?
[12:54] <ikonia_> which isn't going to print to the printer I've setup in gnome
[12:54] <stefg> MrNaz: mcedit ? :-)
[12:54] <aquafina> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu from the Live CD. Where can i get a proper apt config file so i can download packages?
[12:54] <minimec> Vanique: Well ... The firewall will do the redirecting and the masquerading in your local net.
[12:54] <stefg> !easysource
[12:54] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:54] <ikonia_> aquafina: the default is installed
[12:54] <ikonia_> its fine
[12:55] <Juftus> Hello! I want to add a launcher to Gnome-panel that starts an application not with the default locale but with another one. How do I do that? The appropriate locale has been generated, I just don't know how to deploy it from somewhere else than terminal.
[12:55] <aquafina> ikonia_: I know. I wanted a few packages. like xchat. which are not installed. This is something called xchat-gnome which is confusing
[12:55] <minimec> Vanique: well you need a working hardware Configuration of course.
[12:55] <aquafina> stefg thanks
[12:55] <ikonia_> thats right
[12:55] <Vanique> minimec: it seems like i have no repo or sth ..
[12:55] <ikonia_> so apt-get install them
[12:55] <Vanique> hardware is ok
[12:55] <xopher> Anyone here who has the murrine-0.12.tar.gz source archive? I cant seem to download it from cimi's homepage. Id appreciate if someone sent it over. Or a amd64 deb of it ofcourse.
[12:55] <bikstopa> hi
[12:55] <minimec> guarddog is in the universe repo for example
[12:56] <aquafina> ikonia_: i cant apt-get install xchat. that package doesnt exist. which is why i need the other repositoires. only i dont know what to add :)
[12:56] <stefg> Juftus: just enter the exact same command you type in the terminal as the command to lbe launched by the starter... pretty obvious
[12:56] <minimec> Vanique: guarddog is in the universe repo for example
[12:56] <ikonia_> if your using gnome, use xchat-gnome
[12:56] <Vanique> 'k will try it now
[12:56] <ikonia_> its good, it includes support for gnome
[12:56] <Vanique> ;)
[12:56] <ikonia_> you won't need xchat
[12:56] <minimec> Vanique: ;)
[12:56] <Frostbite> I've just installed on a via epia and eth0 (vr/via rhine) has about 95% packet loss on it.  The nic's fine, as is the cable and the switch.  Does anyone know of any issues with vr?
[12:57] <aquafina> ikonia_: I am using just that. right now. But it looks a bit weird :) after being used to xchat.
[12:57] <rambo3> xchat-gnome sucks big time
[12:57] <ikonia_> then add the universe repo and get xchat
[12:57] <aquafina> ikonia_: exactly. which is why i asked howto add repositiroes. anyway. looking at it in the sourceomatic generator. thanks
[12:58] <ikonia_> just look at the wiki
[12:58] <ikonia_> it explains universe, multiverse etc etc
[12:58] <ikonia_> and how to add them
[12:58] <aquafina> ok. i havent done that. will read.
[12:58] <ikonia_> the wiki has excellent info on it
[12:58] <aquafina> ty :)
[12:58] <aquafina> another thing. my / is 9G and my /home is 5G. will that be enough?
[12:59] <ikonia_> depends on what you install and how you use it
[12:59] <stefg> Does anyone happen to know which file to edit to control suspend/hibernate behaviour ? I need to unmount the network shares before suspend and remount them after wakeup
[12:59] <ikonia_> only you know your spacing
[12:59] <aquafina> i dont think i want to have many applications. Just a few things for. browsing. and email. i use imap email.
[12:59] <aquafina> ok
[01:00] <Stormx2> hey everyone. I seem to remember seeing some kind of ubuntu start menu? What would that be called?
[01:00] <ikonia_> start menu ?
[01:01] <ikonia_> where on the destkop, on boot up ?
[01:01] <Frostbite> slab menu?
[01:01] <Stormx2> A gnome applet, I think
[01:01] <aquafina> gdesklets
[01:01] <Stormx2> No
[01:01] <Stormx2> It wasn't a gdesklet.
[01:01] <Frostbite> I think he means slab menu from novell
[01:02] <wickedpuppy> it would be called Application
[01:02] <Frostbite> !google slab menu ubuntu
[01:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google slab menu ubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:02] <Frostbite> bah
[01:02] <Stormx2> Heh, I'm sure it wasn't that.
[01:02] <aquafina> is there some package which can find out which is teh fastest ubuntu mirror for me?
[01:03] <stefg> :-) ubotu is too clever to do anyone elses google search, Frostbite
[01:03] <wickedpuppy> Stormx2, boot up the live cd ...
[01:03] <ikonia_> aquafina: livecd normally picks your closest
[01:03] <Stormx2> wickedpuppy: Why?
[01:03] <aquafina> ok
[01:03] <ikonia_> this is all covered in the wiki though
[01:03] <Juftus> stefg: Thanks. I was actually kind of cheating as I use xubuntu. This channel is more helpful than #xubuntu so I just tought the same method would work for xfce as does for Gnome. That's obviously not the case. Sorry.
[01:03] <aquafina> !wiki
[01:03] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[01:03] <wickedpuppy> Stormx2, so you can find out the "start" menu ?
[01:03] <aquafina> cool
[01:03] <Stormx2> wickedpuppy: o.o what?
[01:03] <stefg> Juftus: but it's the same in xfce
[01:04] <Stormx2> wickedpuppy: Look over that sentence, please o.o
[01:04] <Juftus> stefg, it just doesn't work :(
[01:04] <Yuan> hi
[01:05] <Juftus> steft, the terminal command would be 'LC_ALL=fi_FI.ISO-8859-1 xfce4-terminal', which works just fine. With alt-F2 or with a launcher icon the same command leads to 'The command (...) failed to run. Failed to execute child process LC_ALL=fi_FI-ISO-8859-1 (no such file or directory)'.
[01:05] <ikonia_> !inkscape
[01:05] <ubotu> Inkscape is a powerful vector graphics drawing application - see http://www.inkscape.org/ for more
[01:05] <Yuan> Any body can show me how to change the room ??
[01:05] <ikonia_> Yuan: what do you mean ?
[01:05] <ikonia_> change the room ?
[01:05] <Stormx2> Yuan: /join #room
[01:05] <Yuan> o  ~~~  thx
[01:05] <Juftus> stefg: see 'bout ten lines upwards, failed to type your nick correctly.
[01:06] <GTX> Hello, My friend installed Ubuntu last night, He also installed the fglgfx drivers for his ATI Card. But now when I remote desktop into his comptuter everything is currutpted
[01:06] <Yuan> but how can i can a list of the chatroom ?
[01:06] <aquafina> you type /list
[01:06] <kyja> Yuan, well I sugest new drapes. and a through rug.
[01:06] <ikonia_> I could use a hand with printing. I've got a HP printer setup and appears to be working. Under the gnome application its setup as the default printer. I'm trying to print out an svg file from inkscape but the inkscape printer interface wants to use lp. I need to either set lp up to point at the HP printer through cups or tell inkscape to use the printer directly through cups
[01:06] <ikonia_> any thoughts / comments / experience doing either
[01:07] <aquafina> ikonia_: thanks. found out how :) downloading the sources.list update now. after that, xchat.
[01:08] <Yuan> i do not catch u . what u mean about /list , where do i type it ??
[01:08] <wickedpuppy> Yuan, do you see the room like this ? brown.freenode.net ??type in that room
[01:08] <ikonia_> good
[01:08] <aquafina> Yuan: umm. goto the main window, the server window and type /list it will show you a list of channels on the server.
[01:10] <Yuan> get it ~~ thx
[01:11] <wickedpuppy> he came here to ask about irc ... neat :P
[01:11] <darkanyel> ?
[01:11] <darkanyel> hi
[01:11] <lastnode> hi darkanyel
[01:11] <darkanyel> help plz?
[01:11] <darkanyel> ^^
[01:11] <lastnode> !ask
[01:11] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:11] <wickedpuppy> !ask
[01:12] <aquafina> hehe
[01:12] <wickedpuppy> well ... probably lag
[01:12] <darkanyel> wll i wanna erase winxp
[01:12] <darkanyel> i use cfdisk
[01:12] <darkanyel> but i dont understand
[01:12] <aquafina> what is cfdisk?
[01:13] <lastnode> darkanyel, you dont need to. just let ubuntu overwrite it
[01:13] <wickedpuppy> something like fdisk ...
[01:13] <darkanyel> i have windows and ubuntu
[01:13] <wickedpuppy> darkanyel, here is what ... find out which partition is winxp on .. and format it
[01:14] <jasondotgnu> how to install xorg 7.1 in edgy? I can't find it in the repository.
[01:14] <darkanyel> ys but how can i format ???
[01:15] <wickedpuppy> darkanyel, i am not using cfdisk ... so i can't tell ya how ... surely there is help ..
[01:15] <wickedpuppy> !cfdisk
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cfdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <wickedpuppy> sweet
[01:15] <wickedpuppy> i can help with fdisk though
[01:16] <darkanyel> uhmm
[01:16] <darkanyel> tell me
[01:16] <aquafina> fdisk or cfdisk wont allow you to format a partition, will they?
[01:16] <darkanyel> ys
[01:16] <aquafina> you can just create/delete partitions
[01:16] <wickedpuppy> they will ... fdisk = format disk
[01:17] <aquafina> after that, you use the mkfs command to do it
[01:17] <vorbote> aquafina: fdisk and cfdisk will not format a partition automatically. That's left for the user to do. OTOH, parted can create a partition and format it automatically.
[01:17] <aquafina> type sudo mk<tab> and you'll see a buncha options
[01:17] <wickedpuppy> in fdisk , sudo fdisk /dev/hda , type m .. you wil see d is delete and p is list ... type p to list the partitions and d the winxp
[01:17] <jpgeerets> hi folks
[01:17] <jpgeerets> somone alive?
[01:17] <aquafina> vorbote: ok
[01:18] <jpgeerets> i have a Q for ubuntu-server
[01:18] <aquafina> there. man mkfs has a lot of options howto do it
[01:18] <jpgeerets> someone know sometihng about gcc?
[01:18] <jpgeerets> can it be remove suddenly?
[01:18] <aquafina> meh. 199MB of upgrades.
[01:18] <jpgeerets> perhaps a systemupdate ?
[01:21] <stefg> aquafina: did you install 6.06 instaed of 6.06.1 ?
[01:21] <aquafina> stefg I dont know. It was a live CD from my cousin
[01:21] <aquafina> it is called Dapper
[01:22] <mildrew> hi, I'm having trouble with the gnome hibernate feature in ubuntu 6.06. my problem is the same as this bug report: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/32689/comments/3
[01:22] <stefg> aquafina: Might have been the original release. So no wonder you got to fetch 200MB of updates
[01:22] <mildrew> is there anything I can do about it?
[01:22] <rambo3> aquafina, there is second dapper with updates
[01:22] <aquafina> stefg anyway, i stopped, and removed openoffice. it looked big. and now a smaller nunch of updates
[01:22] <aquafina> *bunch
[01:22] <rambo3> system -> about ubuntu
[01:23] <stefg> aquafina: But better like this, than downloading a complete new iso..
[01:24] <thg303> Hi Room
[01:25] <thg303> what is better than PHP !?
[01:25] <kyja> thg303, I think it will only be the people in the room that will answer to hi.
[01:25] <pwuertz> hi, could someone help me installing ubuntu please? I tried dapper and edgy live cds.... none of them are able to boot on my system. seems they cant find cdrom or hds.
[01:25] <kyja> =] 
[01:25] <pwuertz> ide controller is a jmicron
[01:25] <kyja> jk
[01:25] <thg303> whatever///
[01:25] <doks> when iam running kismet the network manager is disconnecting me from the wireless network any ideas how i can i solve that? or is it possbible to let kismet connect to to the network?
[01:26] <pwuertz> but windows was able to install without any additional drivers :/
[01:26] <rambo3> !vmware
[01:26] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[01:26] <kyja> thg303, what do you mean by better than php ? php is almost like a nessesity in a web server. what do you mean?
[01:26] <thg303> hey
[01:26] <thg303> take it easy
[01:27] <kyja> ?
[01:27] <thg303> ALWAYS there is a better!
[01:27] <thg303> tell me JSP is'nt better?
[01:28] <kyja> thg303, well I suport that, but what do you mean. if its about a server you still kind of need it. so I ask. what do you mean?
[01:28] <thg303> everything with JAVA(R) ...
[01:28] <kyja> mmmft. well you can even get ruby to work in a webserver thg303
[01:29] <thg303> hey who r u?
[01:29] <thg303> php developer!
[01:29] <kyja> nop
[01:29] <thg303> ??
[01:29] <thg303> thank god
[01:29] <kyja> haha
[01:30] <thg303> how u met php for first time?
[01:30] <red|rain> Hi, does anyone here know how to change the font size in fluxbox?
[01:31] <kyja> there are so many languages to compile binaries from or run as scripts. but I have a python and ruby perl as well as the php and cgi interpeters running with apache if we are talking about webservers.
[01:31] <red|rain> nevermind ^_^
[01:31] <mildrew> pwuertz, this looks ominous: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/57502
[01:31] <thg303> remember : "GODISNOWHERE" can be read as "GOD IS NOWHERE" and "GOD IS NOW HERE" !!
[01:32] <kyja> wow
[01:32] <thg303> sure
[01:32] <kyja> hehe your rigth.
[01:32] <kyja> k gone to eat dougnuts
[01:32] <thg303> u'r welcome
[01:33] <kyja> yeah thx I will remember that. its cool
[01:35] <aquafina> rambo3: dunno. no point downloading that now :) will just upgrade
[01:35] <aquafina> rambo3: 6.06LTS
[01:35] <aquafina> June
[01:35] <thg303> k I've back
[01:35] <thg303> where we where?
[01:35] <aquafina> What do you want, thg303?
[01:35] <aquafina> For JSP you need a webserver like Tomcat.
[01:35] <aquafina> :( my net conn is so slow, nothing's moving.
[01:35] <thg303> :( is funny
[01:35] <thg303> :)
[01:35] <thg303> is better
[01:36] <thg303> k?
[01:36] <thg303> oooppppsss
[01:36] <ruzgar> how can i restart x window without restarting my pc
[01:37] <thg303> I've thought I'm in PHP room
[01:37] <thg303> what is subject for this room!?
[01:37] <rogue_boy> anyone know how to get a computer to display 1280 x 800 on an acer sis card ubuntu  64
[01:38] <thg303> R u all Linux users?
[01:39] <markc> is anyone aware of some kind of program that watches port  22 and blocks the IP of anyone with 3 bad login attempts within 60 secs, or some such ?
[01:39] <thg303> markc you must write one!
[01:39] <thg303> get us one when u done!
[01:40] <tamacracker> hey guys?
[01:40] <tamacracker> I have a question
[01:41] <tamacracker> would anyone recommend me a good torrent for ubuntu drake?
[01:41] <rogue_boy> message me if anyone knows the answer
[01:41] <hantu> torrent client or what?
[01:41] <bighil> markc: it may be possible to do something like this with iptables rules or with pam rules
[01:41] <octan> !paste
[01:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:42] <tamacracker> basically a torrent so i can download music
[01:42] <hantu> torrent client you mean
[01:42] <bighil> markc: i know that its possible to use iptables rules to limit login tries for port 22
[01:43] <tamacracker> im assuming?
[01:43] <tamacracker> first time i'd ever use a torrent
[01:43] <aelf> tamacracker: Azureus is popular
[01:43] <hantu> azureus is one, or the normal bittorent-gui package
[01:43] <markc> bighil: cool, thanks... more googling, here is one link fwiw http://www.ducea.com/2006/07/03/using-fail2ban-to-block-brute-force-attacks/
[01:43] <hantu> or bittorent
[01:44] <tamacracker> Azureus will be ok for ubuntu gnome?
[01:44] <RedGhost> Is Xgl at all worth the risks/time?
[01:44] <aelf> Azureus is java based so cross platform, works well on Gnome I have found
[01:45] <aelf> there are plug ins for console control too, if you prefer
[01:45] <RedGhost> tamcracker, Azureus runs fine for ubuntu and gnome, but being java it eats alot of resources and is slugish
[01:45] <thg303> bye room
[01:45] <tamacracker> ack
[01:45] <tamacracker> i wanna stay away from the pathetic power of windows lol
[01:45] <RedGhost> I wish utorrent had a Linux port.
[01:45] <RedGhost> 300kb with a full nice gui, encryption, speed ups
[01:46] <RedGhost> :(
[01:46] <TheGateKeeper> when you use apt-get, how do remove the application AND all the dependencies that it installed?
[01:46] <RedGhost> there is a tool something like frostdeb or something
[01:46] <RedGhost> or use the graphical synaptic manager
[01:47] <aquafina> synaptic will do the same as sudo apt-get remove <package> right?
[01:47] <RedGhost> you can see the depencies and remove them aswell
[01:47] <aquafina> cool
[01:47] <RedGhost> manually
[01:47] <RedGhost> though
[01:48] <RedGhost> Is Xgl at all worth the risks/time?
[01:49] <bighil> RedGhost: In my opinion no, i got sick of the wobbling windows :-)
[01:49] <jpgeerets> folks, another Q.
[01:50] <jpgeerets> i logged in to my server by ssh.
[01:50] <jpgeerets> then i installed gcc, this disappear....
[01:50] <markc> thg303: apt-get install fail2ban
[01:51] <seatouch> !ntfs
[01:51] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:51] <seatouch> !fuse
[01:51] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[01:51] <gpu> hi all
[01:52] <Jaak_> how can i acces my harddrives from a live cd?
[01:53] <gpu> manage-discs
[01:53] <gpu> u need to login as root
[01:53] <Jaak_> oh right
[01:53] <tuxtux> ciao a tutti
[01:53] <Jaak_> wat is the passwd on a live cd
[01:53] <gpu> pwd root?
[01:54] <gpu> its empty
[01:54] <gpu> u must set
[01:55] <gpu> i need ipw2200 patch for injection, if possible
[01:56] <TheGateKeeper_> RedGhost: debfoster has been depricated to aptitude
[01:56] <regebro> I'm trying to make a remote X session happen, and it almost works...
[01:56] <regebro> I can log in, but then it stops. Gnome doesn't seem to start.
[01:56] <regebro> Any ideas on where to go from that?
[01:56] <ben> I was wondering how i can stream music from my windows box through ubuntu, running 6.06LTS
[01:57] <habeeb> Hello, I converted all my mp3s to ogg. I now want to delete every mp3. I want to make a script or something that would get in any sub-directory of the directory "Music" and "rm *.mp3" How can I do that?
[01:57] <ben> I was wondering how i can stream music from my windows box through ubuntu, running 6.06LTS, if you can help please send a private message as i am really new to linux
[01:58] <RedGhost> yeah debfoster, that's it
[01:58] <ikonia> rf -rf *.mp3
[01:58] <bighil> habeeb: find -name *.mp3 -exec rm {} \;
[01:58] <bighil> habeeb: but maybe try find -name *.mp3 first
[01:58] <Stormx2> is there some kind of sendmail log in ubuntu?
[01:59] <ikonia> maillog
[01:59] <Stormx2> where is it?
[01:59] <regebro> ben: that requires you to have a streaming server on teh windows and a client on the linux.
[01:59] <aquafina>  /var/log/
[01:59] <ikonia> /var/log
[01:59] <regebro> It's pribably easier to just access the files.
[02:00] <regebro> Nobody has an experience with remote X sessions to Ubuntu?
[02:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> someone wanted me?
[02:00] <amarokker> Hiya, how do i switch from one gtk-engine to another after installing em? through the .rc files in ~/ ?
[02:00] <aquafina> ok. part of my update is done. atleast xchat will install now. seeya when it installs.
[02:00] <TheGateKeeper_> RedGhost: won't apt-get do it in any way?
[02:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> regebro, details?
[02:01] <regebro> I using Xming to connect to Ubuntu.
[02:01] <Triangle> Anybody can help me,my gaim has no sound when I update it
[02:01] <nils_> hello i am admin of a school internet cafe and am using ubuntu with ltsp and it works fine - but when i try to start the live cd on aour new server it "kernel panics" .i already tried memtest, but could not find any errors. slackware with kernel 2.4.6 works but i dont like it. anyone her to help me.
[02:01] <nils_> ?
[02:01] <regebro> Kamping_Kaiser: I get the login, but after login, I just get a blank brown screen
[02:01] <graveson> can someone please help wit my ati card - i seems to have resolution issues
[02:02] <graveson> can someone please help wit my ati card - i seems to have resolution issues; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24652
[02:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> regebro, i havent used xming
[02:02] <Jaak_> thanks, gpu!
[02:02] <Triangle> Anybody can help me,my gaim has no sound after I update it
[02:02] <gpu> i need need help about intel Pro/wireless 2200 bg and packet injection
[02:03] <Triangle> Anybody can help me,my gaim has no sound when I update it
[02:03] <regebro> Kamping_Kaiser: I don't think thats the problem though.
[02:03] <Triangle> Anybody can help me,my gaim has no sound after I update it
[02:03] <ben> thanks heaps but i just realised i can drag and drop into rythmbox....
[02:03] <d3ck4> gpu, ipw2200 cant do packet injection.. sorry to say this
[02:03] <ben> <------ Real NOOB
[02:03] <Triangle> Anybody can help me,my gaim has no sound when I update it
[02:04] <regebro> Kamping_Kaiser: I used Cygwin/X and it's the same (but more complcated to set up).
[02:04] <gpu> d3ck4 i hear some possibility?
[02:04] <troughton> i cant get the sound working on my laptop and from forums it says i need nvsound and nvmixer to get it working but there windows aplications can anyone help
[02:04] <regebro> I think it's a gnome issue, but don't know how to debug it.
[02:04] <chemaja> i wonder why freenx isn't in Universe... i've found seveas' repo, but yea...
[02:04] <chemaja> anyone know?
[02:05] <Davo_Dinkum> How can I get my Thinkpad's built in wireless card to connect to my router?
[02:05] <ikonia> does it matter ?
[02:05] <d3ck4> what possibility? the vendor lock it.. but the monitor mode still can
[02:05] <gpu> d3ck4 there is someone telling about injection but im not sure its right? tinyshell.be/aircrackng/forum/index.php?topic=25.45
[02:06] <regebro> Kamping_Kaiser: So, what did you use, and how did it work?
[02:06] <ephemeros> yo \m/
[02:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> regebro, i use GDM to connect to a remote X server
[02:07] <aquafina> where can i get fonts like verdana ttf etc for ubuntu?
[02:07] <Bazzi> install msttcorefonts
[02:07] <stefg> aquafina: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[02:08] <aquafina> ok
[02:08] <regebro> There are no like useful gnome logs anywhere?
[02:08] <rNIUS> hi :)
[02:08] <nmsa> someone using raid1? I made a mirror using raid between two partition on the same HDD, for test, I stopped the raid and I don't know how to start it back, any help? I appreciate
[02:08] <chemaja> aha! https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/faster-networked-x-through-nx
[02:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> regebro, try .xsession-errors
[02:09] <stefg> nmsa: man mdadm ... (BTW raid1 on the same disk .... ts,ts)
[02:09] <nmsa> my option on raid will be to create it again, but don't want to
[02:10] <gpu> d3ck4 i can monitor ap's, g type and wep protection(...) but i cant did injection, therefore what i need?
[02:10] <ikonia> whoaaaa apt-cache is segfaulting all of a sudden
[02:10] <nmsa> stefg: mdadm, yes, for test, later int he week I will buy a second HDD; mdadm --but how?
[02:10] <gpu> d3ck4 whats good method on wep, only with monitoring for ubuntu?
[02:12] <aelf> i have a blank screen and alt-ctrl-backspace doesn't quit me out of x to a prompt - it seems to automatically reload x... what do I do?
[02:12] <stefg> nmsa: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO-5.html
[02:12] <hantu> ctrl-alt-backspace restarts x
[02:12] <nmsa> stefg: 'thnx, I'll take a look
[02:12] <hantu> ctrl-alt-f1/2/3 will go to another tty
[02:12] <rambo3> just keep ctrl-alt - breaking
[02:12] <llarens> hi there
[02:13] <aelf> aha that seemed to work, cheers!
[02:13] <_mason> Could somebody please help me with a little bash
[02:13] <regebro> Kamping_Kaiser: Thanks, but nothing useful there.
[02:14] <Adriano> _mason: just aask
[02:15] <_mason> I am making another bash script but i need to split this somehow "$NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS" or alternatively read it line by line ?
[02:15] <stefg> !rar
[02:15] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[02:16] <Laney> Is there any way for me to have samba username/passwords be "in sync" with my ubuntu ones -- using smbpasswd atm
[02:16] <_mason> Adriano:  for line in $NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS ; do ; x,y,z ; done     Doesnt work
[02:17] <Adriano> I didn't say I could help you, sorry, I said that it's better to go ahead and ask than wait
[02:17] <wickedpuppy> _mason, for bash scripting ... isn't #bash better channel to ask ? my opinion ...
[02:17] <Adriano> did you ask in #bash orwhatever?
[02:18] <GeeK> how can I know if my ubuntu is using both processors in my Pentium D
[02:18] <Adriano> GeeK: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:18] <Adriano> look at that
[02:18] <Lehti> hmm, how do I install a no cd patch in to a game using cedega? like where can i find the directory to put it in :(
[02:18] <Adriano> then uname -a
[02:18] <_mason> wickedpuppy, Yes.. But ubuntu citizens tend to be less cocky and more friendly/helpfull
[02:18] <Adriano> and check if your kernel says SMP
[02:19] <hantu> :o
[02:19] <wickedpuppy> _mason, true ... very true ... of course you can ask here ... :P
[02:19] <Adriano> GeeK: but actually, if the first command shows two procs, they should be in use
[02:19] <_mason> Adriano & wickedpuppy : ill check out #bash also however, But if anyone knows how to do so? That would be, Well Awesome
[02:20] <Adriano> _mason
[02:20] <flo> how can i change the gdm theme?
[02:20] <Angel-SL> Adriano: whats her problem?
[02:20] <Adriano> fold is a command to, well, fold the contents of a file
[02:20] <Angel-SL> flo: erm
[02:20] <Adriano> her?
[02:20] <Adriano> her who?
[02:20] <DJGummikuh> hi
[02:20] <regebro> Kamping_Kaiser: Aha! It worked now. I'm not exactly sure what the difference were, but we'll see. Might be the clipboard manager funnily enough. :-)
[02:20] <Adriano> flo: you'll find instructions in gnome-look.org
[02:20] <Adriano> or art.gnome.org
[02:20] <wickedpuppy> flo,  system -> preference -> theme
[02:20] <Angel-SL> flo: programs menu > desktop > * theme
[02:20] <_mason> Adrino as in take an input line by line ? :)
[02:21] <Angel-SL> its hard to eat dinner with my microphone blocking my mouth.
[02:21] <anjo> i need WPA -PSK help - new install of ubuntu desktop i386, installed wpa_supplicant
[02:21] <Adriano> if the file consists of a single line (no breaks) then your commands would only run once
[02:21] <badaman> Hello  to all
[02:21] <Angel-SL> hi
[02:21] <Adriano> so you fold it and pass that to the rest
[02:22] <Angel-SL> lOL.
[02:22] <GeeK> well it seems ok processor 0 and processor 1
[02:22] <_mason> Adriano: ill give it a shot and get back to you
[02:22] <Adriano> depends of what actually your variable contains
[02:22] <Adriano> did you echo it and ensure it is meaningful?
[02:23] <emesgee> hey, quick question, but what package would I need to reinstall to reset the MySQL database?
[02:23] <_mason> Adriano: File paths, $NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS :P
[02:23] <Adriano> emesgee: mysql-server-<version>?
[02:24] <Adriano> _mason: mine is empty
[02:24] <_mason> Yes, its each path of every selected file seperated by lines
[02:24] <undesktop> I need to build a kernel module... the source of that kernel modules requires a "full configured linux source tree" how do I get that tree with an existing ubuntu kernel?
[02:24] <emesgee> Adriano: thanks I'll try that
[02:24] <anjo> ntework manager icon shows no wireless - only wired network
[02:24] <brian98> Hello all, I apt-get installed kubuntu-desktop last night on my ubuntu box to have a look at kde (Much nicer than I expected!!) however I want to get rid of it, when I apt-get remove it it just removes 340kb file and leaves tons of stuff there. I have a kubuntu load upscreen and I can still startkde from a shell :S
[02:24] <brian98> Anyone any experience of this?
[02:25] <anjo> !paste
[02:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:25] <undesktop> too much scrolling here
[02:25] <_mason> Adriano: Yours will be empty.. this is being run from inside a nautilus script so nautilus passes this to the script when its run, thus a string seperated by lines of each file selected
[02:25] <Adriano> ok
[02:25] <DracIIci> Can somebody please explain to me how I just installed Flash from within Firefox as a missing plugin?!
[02:26] <Adriano> I'd try first just making sure of each part in order, but I guess you already did
[02:26] <Adriano> first try just to echo each line in order
[02:26] <sampo_v2> For which package i need to run dpkg-reconfigure on to re-configure my X?
[02:26] <Adriano> then make it do one of the commadns
[02:26] <Adriano> sampo_v2: xserver-xorg, I think
[02:26] <lastnode> samiam, xserver-xorg
[02:27] <Adriano> sorry, sampo_v2: xserver-xorg
[02:27] <emesgee> it didn't fix my problem :c
[02:27] <DracIIci> I didn't think it would work... I got the license prompt and went through with it anyway... and it actually installed from within Firefox without even being located on my harddrive...
[02:27] <emesgee> how do I reset the users, even root?
[02:27] <emesgee> in MySQL
[02:27] <llarens> I have an issue with usbnet & an ipaq with familiar linux
[02:27] <rambo3> do you have mysqlcc
[02:28] <Adriano> I think you need a visit to the mysql online reference anyway
[02:28] <emesgee> okay
[02:28] <Adriano> and you want to modify a special table anyway
[02:28] <Adriano> mysql, I think it's the name
[02:28] <_mason> WOW
[02:28] <Adriano> try SELECTing it and showing the contents
[02:28] <_mason> Adriano: It works
[02:28] <Adriano> what was the problem?
[02:29] <emesgee> a deleted root account >_<
[02:29] <Adriano> ohh
[02:29] <Adriano> that would be a problem, yes
[02:29] <emesgee> I accidentally copied it while trying to change the pass
[02:29] <emesgee> and when I went to delete the copy I deleted the wrong one :P
[02:29] <gijs> anyone can help me with my UA-25 USB soundcard witch worked in  brezzy but nog in  dapper?
[02:29] <sampo_v2> Adriano: damn. it doesn't automatically detect that i have two monitors attached. is there any easy way to automatically configure dualhehead?
[02:30] <Adriano> depends
[02:30] <Adriano> you have an nvidia card?
[02:30] <_mason> Adriano :the code i used =    for i in `fold < test.txt` ; do ; echo " this is a new line $i" ; done    (with each ; = new line of course)
[02:30] <sampo_v2> Adriano: intel gma950
[02:30] <llarens> I tried http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UsbNet, but I have Ubuntu 6, usb0 goes up, but pings go nowhere EXCEPT when desktops goes to reboot, it responds durung some seconds...
[02:30] <Adriano> sampo_v2: then the answer is usually "no"
[02:30] <Adriano> even with an nvidia card, it's the latest beta drivers that do the trick
[02:31] <Adriano> otherwise, find a tutorial and modify xserver-xorg
[02:31] <Adriano> sorry
[02:31] <Adriano> xorg.conf
[02:31] <nmsa> I have this error when I star the raid:mdadm -R /dev/md0
[02:31] <nmsa> mdadm: failed to run array /dev/md0: Invalid argument
[02:31] <monomaniacpat> OK, so my mouse no longer responds to clicks - is there a way of reverting completely to the original kernel version or something? I believe the auto-update made it have a fit
[02:31] <anjo>  here's my wireless info  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24659
[02:32] <sampo_v2> Adriano: i've been going at that for a few hours now with no real success. i just thought that maybe there was something which could do it automatically
[02:32] <shinobi2> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[02:32] <shinobi2> kernel?
[02:32] <shinobi2> where's my C header files?
[02:32] <Adriano> sampo_v2: have you installed xinerama and relatives?
[02:32] <stefg> shinobi2: installing vmplayer?
[02:32] <Adriano> because that's required, I think
[02:32] <shinobi2> stefg: yes =)
[02:33] <stefg> shinobi2: sudo apt-get install linux-source
[02:33] <sampo_v2> Adriano: yes
[02:33] <anjo> 1 x wireless card is working and scans but won't authenticate to WPA-PSK access point
[02:34] <ryanakca> wheres the DocumentRoot for ubuntu's apache?
[02:34] <sampo_v2> Adriano: it would help if i would find someone who could explain me the Pipe A & Pipe B system in the i810 driver and chip
[02:34] <jasondotgnu> how to setup xorg to use my widescreen monitor in the mode 1440x900?
[02:34] <Angel-SL> ryanakca: /var/www/ i think.
[02:35] <Adriano> sampo_v2: is it a laptop?
[02:35] <inc|freaky> ubotu: restricted formats
[02:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:35] <monomaniacpat> so: is there a way of uninstalling the new kernel? I know you can select from grub - is this 100% the same as before?
[02:35] <sampo_v2> Adriano: yes
[02:35] <shinobi2> stefg: actually, i am installing vmware server
[02:35] <stefg> jasondotgnu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. make sure to check the right resolution in the process
[02:35] <Adriano> try installing the package 915resolution
[02:35] <Adriano> and then reconfigure
[02:35] <Adriano> and see what comes out of that
[02:35] <stefg> shinobi2: doesn't matter. you'll nedd the full source tree installed
[02:36] <sampo_v2> Adriano: i have 915resolution already, the reconfigure didn't do anything. without the utility the native 1920x1200 resolution won't work
[02:36] <Adriano> ok
[02:36] <Adriano> lemme look
[02:36] <shinobi2> stefg:  i am going to install virtual machine on vfat partition, then both xp and linux can access it
[02:36] <Adriano> sampo_v2: seen this ? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-159528.html
[02:36] <monomaniacpat> is there a way of permenantly reverting to the old kernel after an update?
[02:36] <pwuertz> ok... it seems my actual problem with ubuntu is the lack of Intel ICH8 support.....
[02:36] <shinobi2> stefg: i have dual boot
[02:37] <phaedrus44> duude...my   system keep freezing....where do i  look for error messages?
[02:37] <St0n3-C0l> what do u type for making a deb of any installed tarball ?
[02:37] <St0n3-C0l> checkfile?
[02:37] <St0n3-C0l> checkinstall ?
[02:37] <stefg> shinobi2: all that will not keep you from installing the source tree first :-)
[02:37] <anjo>  lspci as root -  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24661
[02:37] <monomaniacpat> is there a way of permenantly reverting to the old kernel after an update? anyone?
[02:38] <nmsa> stefg: I had to assembly the raid back, works, nice, even if one HDD ;)
[02:38] <anjo> how do i setup WPA-PSK in ubuntu desktop i386?
[02:38] <sampo_v2> Adriano: i've tried equivalent configurations, but that one won't work (at least according to the i810 manpage) because when using one device to control two screens you need to have a Screen clause in both Device sections
[02:38] <shinobi2> stefg: installing the source 92% done
[02:38] <nmsa> man mdadm is cool!
[02:38] <aquafina> monomaniacpat: modify the default kernel in your grub config
[02:38] <Adriano> and this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-169108.html
[02:38] <aquafina> nmsa: what is mdadm?
[02:38] <nmsa> multidisk admin
[02:38] <nmsa> aquafina: to setup radi and mirrors
[02:38] <Adriano> it's for an nvidia,
[02:39] <aquafina> nmsa: will it see my fat32 external hard disk as well?
[02:39] <Adriano> but it should be easily adaptable
[02:39] <aquafina> nmsa: :( something else then
[02:39] <stefg> nmsa: you hd's head assembly won't have much fun being sent constantly back and forth...
[02:39] <nmsa> stefg: I will buy a new HDD for this, true, I can imagine :)
[02:40] <sampo_v2> Adriano: yeah, i'll have to go the manual route. i was just hoping - open source drivers etc, that there could've been a system for automatic configuration somehwere
[02:40] <ikonia> how do you setup lp/lpr to print to the printer defained in cups ?
[02:40] <Adriano> not on ubuntu that I know of
[02:40] <shinobi2> stefg: it just gave me a linux-source-2.6.15.tar.bz2 in /usr/src, i thought sudo apt thing will do the install for me
[02:40] <Adriano> suse and maybe mandriva do have something
[02:40] <nmsa> aquafina: use mount
[02:40] <shinobi2> stefg: did it installed? where is my source?
[02:41] <sampo_v2> Adriano: considering this is about the only thing which doesn't work yet with ubuntu, i won't be switching
[02:41] <stefg> shinobi2: no, you've got to unpack it and put a symlink /usr/src/linux to the unpacked tree
[02:41] <emesgee> arghmin, MySQL official site didn't help
[02:41] <MartinKryl> Hey, I am thinking about buying a bubblejet printer with a support of CD and photo printing
[02:41] <MartinKryl> do you have any experience with Ubuntu compatibility?
[02:41] <MartinKryl> Thanks
[02:41] <Adriano> hmmm
[02:41] <emesgee> is there any way to revert the database to what it was when I first installed it?
[02:41] <Adriano> tried reconfiguring xinerama?
[02:41] <Adriano> what would it do?
[02:42] <aquafina> nmsa: i'll try. first i am upgrading. apt-get upgrade after a new install
[02:42] <Adriano> or libdmx1
[02:42] <monomaniacpat> aquafina: OK, and how would I do that?
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> emesgee, of course you can always uninstall and install ...
[02:42] <Adriano> or even installing xdmx
[02:42] <wthww> hello all :)
[02:42] <emesgee> I tried that :c
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> emesgee, you got to completely uninstall ... not just uninstall ...
[02:43] <Adriano> you could always find the dirs in /var/something, delete them, and reconfigure
[02:43] <emesgee> like purge!?
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> yup
[02:43] <Adriano> if you want the hard route
[02:43] <emesgee> k
[02:43] <ChrisWhite> oh boy
[02:43] <aquafina> monomaniacpat: open your grub conf file in an editor. sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst and then see which your default kernel is. your previous kernel will also be listed there. just make that the default
[02:43] <sampo_v2> Adriano: they don't seem to be doing anything. xdmx i haven't tried - but isn't that for distributed (screen-over-ethernet) setups?
[02:43] <ChrisWhite> jedit totally didn't like being installed and ran
[02:43] <aquafina> monomaniacpat: the file is well commented. so check that.
[02:44] <Adriano> sampo_v2: dunno, my description here only says "Distributed Multihead X server"
[02:44] <Adriano> which might mean you're right
[02:44] <Adriano> it's been a long time since I did it
[02:44] <Adriano> and I had to configure it manually too
[02:44] <Adriano> still, watching my mouse on a tv screen was cool
[02:44] <monomaniacpat> aquafina: thank you. Do you know if loading a previous kernel is 100% the same as it would have been before an update?
[02:45] <Adriano> you wouldn't want to see the wiring my brother hooked up for that to work
[02:45] <emesgee> !purge
[02:45] <emesgee> :c
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about purge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <ryanakca> Could someone please help me get my apache server running in say... #ubuntu-classroom, where it won't scroll as much? I've been using a from source LAMP installation for the past couple of years, and decided to try out the ubuntu one... except it's a different layout/setup than the default from source...
[02:45] <aquafina> monomaniacpat: i am not sure. but if you load a previous kernel, it should load the associated modules etc for itself.
[02:45] <aquafina> monomaniacpat: what happened so bad with your new kernel?
[02:45] <lastnode> ryanakca, sure, come in classroom
[02:45] <Adriano> sampo_v2: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Twinview_Example#Introduction
[02:45] <Adriano> last thing I can say
[02:46] <Adriano> I have to go study
[02:46] <Adriano> bye all
[02:46] <aquafina> what is classroom, lastnode?
[02:46] <aes52> any of you chaps setup LVM and ubuntu?
[02:46] <ikonia> yup
[02:46] <c_lisp> hi anybody know a program where I can stream music over the net so friends can listeN?
[02:46] <monomaniacpat> aquafina: I have a very annoying mouse which stopped clicking on button press after an update. It had worked perfectly for the first time after installing on a freshly formatted hdd.
[02:47] <lastnode> aquafina, for long drawn out support sessions
[02:47] <shinobi2> stefg: sorry how do i make a symbolic link? "ln directory /usr/../directory"?
[02:47] <aes52> ln -sf source destination?
[02:47] <aquafina> aquafina: ah, ok.
[02:47] <aes52> ikonia was that a yes to lvm + ubuntu
[02:48] <ikonia> yes
[02:48] <stefg> shinobi2: cd /usr/src, ln -s linux-2.6.15-foobar linux
[02:48] <aquafina> monomaniacpat: hm. it should be fine then. try using your previous kernel version to boot
[02:48] <BockBilbo> hey
[02:48] <aquafina> monomaniacpat: when you boot up and choose the older kernel version, does it work fine?
[02:48] <Fayat> hi!
[02:49] <monomaniacpat> aquafina: I'm not sure, I keep forgetting the damn thing. I'll try it next time I load up.
[02:49] <Fayat> is there anyone who could help me to configure a vpn using pptpd please? I can connect to my vpn but can't access internet :o/
[02:49] <aes52> ikonia alternate install cd?
[02:49] <aquafina> monomaniacpat: yes. first do that. if it works fine in that, then you can change the default kernel value to the older version
[02:50] <ikonia> aes52, pardon ?
[02:50] <glitch-> Well i got FX 5200, with tv out.NVidia.How to put it on? :)
[02:50] <JonaTh> Ubuntu newbie here, where can I find a list or dir of all installed programs?
[02:50] <BockBilbo> is there any file browser alternative to nautilus that doesnt need much ram?
[02:50] <aes52> did you setup lvm with the ubuntu alternate CD ikonia
[02:50] <MartinKryl> Hey, I am thinking about buying a bubblejet printer with a support of CD and photo printing. Any experience with ubuntu compatibility?
[02:50] <aquafina> BockBilbo: emelfm
[02:50] <ikonia> no, the i86_64 dvd
[02:50] <stefg> JonaTh: use synaptic
[02:51] <monomaniacpat> JonaTh: try loading up synaptic
[02:51] <JonaTh> Thanks.
[02:51] <lastnode> !printing
[02:51] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:51] <lastnode> MartinKryl, look for supported printers
[02:51] <Fayat> !vpn
[02:51] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[02:51] <aes52> hrm I'm trying to find some documentation for the alternate CD lvm installation process but can't find anyu.
[02:51] <Jaak_> i've got acces to my hddrives using my live cd, but i can't edit them, i used root nautilus, and i can't change the permissions?
[02:51] <aquafina> Where can i select which Windows Workgroup i want to join in my network?
[02:51] <lastnode> !lvm
[02:51] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[02:51] <jasondotgnu> how to fix the gnome-settings-daemon crash when startup?
[02:52] <emesgee> how do you purge something from the terminal?
[02:52] <MartinKryl> thanks
[02:52] <lastnode> aes52, have a look at those
[02:52] <aquafina> Jaak_: are the hard disks fat32 or ntfs?
[02:52] <meshugga> emesgee: reset
[02:52] <BockBilbo> thanks aquafina
[02:52] <Jaak_> ntfs, ='P
[02:52] <stefg> jasondotgnu: by joining #ubuntu+1 :-)
[02:52] <jasondotgnu> stefg, thx
[02:52] <emesgee> E: Invalid operation reset
[02:52] <aquafina> Jaak_: i am not sure that will work. as in you can read ntfs, but not sure it will allow you to edit/delete ntfs data.
[02:52] <aquafina> emesgee: what do you want to do?
[02:52] <aquafina> emesgee: delete a file?
[02:53] <emesgee> I'm trying to purge mysql-server-5.0
[02:53] <aquafina> ah
[02:53] <Fayat> please i realy need some help to enable routing on my vpn :o/
[02:53] <stefg> !fuse
[02:53] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:53] <aquafina> emesgee: sudo apt-get remove mysql-server
[02:53] <BadRabbit320> is there a site or link to find what the ubuntu program names correspond to in windows?
[02:53] <sybec> How come "echo ALL: ALL: deny > /etc/hosts.allow" will prevent anyone from connecting to sshd yet will allow anyone to connect to apache2?
[02:53] <emesgee> aquafina: well I tried that and reinstalled it and the DB was still there :c
[02:54] <aquafina> BadRabbit320: not sure about that.. what do you want to do?
[02:54] <stefg> BadRabbit320: there sed to be, but that's obsolete.
[02:54] <aquafina> emesgee: that will remove the package. your databases will still be around.
[02:54] <emesgee> aquafina: lol well I'm trying to get rid of the database
[02:54] <aquafina> emesgee: to remove all those, there is some flag to apt-get remove called purge. check that out.
[02:54] <aquafina> emesgee: well, find the database file and just rm it
[02:54] <Jaak_> is it possible to edit ntfs drives from a live cd
[02:54] <emesgee> aquafina: okay, I'll try that thanks
[02:54] <Jaak_> ?
[02:55] <aquafina> emesgee: or before you uninstalled the myql-server, you should have deleted it from the mysql admin console
[02:55] <Fayat> is there anyone who already used pptpd please?
[02:55] <anjo> !wireless
[02:55] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:55] <shinobi2> stefg: i did that, the installer is still asking me for the path, i typed in /usr/src/linux/include ... strange
[02:55] <Storkme> how does one connect to a windows VPN on ubuntu?
[02:56] <SonicvanaJr> !nvidia
[02:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:56] <PPAAUULL> Could some one help me with a flash problem?
[02:56] <anjo> !vpn
[02:56] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[02:56] <BadRabbit320> about to switch from MS, but program names are so different...want to see what things like "grub" or "konqueror" would be called in a windows environment.
[02:56] <emesgee> aquafina: well the problem I'm having is I accidentally deleted the root user
[02:56] <shinobi2> PPAAUULL: i just fixed my flash problem
[02:56] <aquafina> BadRabbit320: konqurer is well, Internet Explorer and Windows Explorer combined
[02:56] <ruzgar> is there a package of new gaim (2 beta 3) in ubuntu server?
[02:56] <emesgee> aquafina: there was nothing important in the tables so I decided to just restart over
[02:56] <aquafina> BadRabbit320: grub is just the boot manager.. something like ntldr
[02:56] <PPAAUULL> I installed flash and now whenever the browser goes to a site that needs flash it just closes the browser.
[02:57] <BadRabbit320> i.e; konqueror is what ms calls explorer
[02:57] <aquafina> emesgee: oops.
[02:57] <PPAAUULL> anyone know how to fix that?
[02:57] <jorgg> how can I restore files removed with rm?
[02:57] <stefg> shinobi2: /usr/src/linuc/include/linux
[02:57] <Jaak_> Is it possible to edit/write onto ntfs drives from a live cd?
[02:57] <aquafina> jorgg: lol. you dont.
[02:57] <stefg> shinobi2: /usr/src/linux/include/linux
[02:58] <shinobi2> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[02:58] <shinobi2> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]  /usr/src/linux/include/linux
[02:58] <Storkme> how does one connect to a windows VPN on ubuntu?
[02:58] <PPAAUULL> I installed flash and now whenever the browser goes to a site that needs flash it just closes the browser.
[02:58] <stefg> shinobi2: right
[02:58] <jorgg> Storkme: apt-get install vpnc
[02:58] <PPAAUULL> can anyone help me?
[02:58] <emesgee> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) -------- argh, what program could be using it, I wonder o.o
[02:58] <aquafina> emesgee: maybe synaptic
[02:59] <ChrisWhite> emesgee: lsof
[02:59] <ChrisWhite> (if you've got it)
[02:59] <sybec> how do I prevent apache from being brought up on start-up?
[02:59] <shinobi2> PPAAUULL: sorry, can't help you on that one
[02:59] <emesgee> well nothing like that wass running at the time
[02:59] <shinobi2> stefg: it still ask to enter the path
[03:00] <BadRabbit320> so, is there a place to see what the programs are called (as in ur example of konqueror to win explorer)?
[03:00] <TheGateKeeper_> anyone know if the firefox update is safe?
[03:00] <PPAAUULL> could someone tell me where Firefox plugins are kept?
[03:00] <hoodlum> hi, can i add debian mirrors to my ubuntu sources list? cause atm i cant dl eterm with the mirrors within my sources list
[03:00] <sethk> PPAAUULL, /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[03:00] <aes52> !lvm
[03:00] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:01] <sethk> PPAAUULL, I think, definitely /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/something
[03:01] <PPAAUULL> ok
[03:01] <PPAAUULL> thanks
[03:01] <TMT[fi] > Hello everyone
[03:01] <TheGateKeeper_> PPAAUULL: you not after http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/ are you?
[03:01] <olorin> hoodlum, add ubuntuniverse repositu ory
[03:02] <olorin> hoodlum, add ubuntu universe repository
[03:02] <graveson> can someone please help wit my ati card - i seems to have resolution issues; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24652
[03:02] <sarikan> hi, how can I force firefox to open pdfs in a tab
[03:02] <sarikan> instead of a new window?
[03:02] <sarikan> using adobe reader plugin
[03:03] <sethk> sarikan, install the tab plus extension
[03:03] <sethk> sarikan, then you can control better what opens tabs
[03:03] <sethk> sarikan, tab mix plus, I think is the name
[03:03] <PPAAUULL> TheGateKeeper: No I am trying to fix a flash problem
[03:03] <Fayat> is there anyone who could help me to configure a vpn using pptpd please? I can connect to my vpn but can't access internet :o/
[03:03] <sarikan> sethk: I'm checking it out right away, thanks a lot mate..
[03:03] <shinobi2> stefg: what is /usr/src/linux/include/linux/dvb ?
[03:03] <Greyscale> 'Ello. I have an issue. Every time I boot my machine, I have to go "sshfs 10.0.0.252:/home/public/ ~/schtuff" (as well as 3 other ones) to mount my remote disks. Any quick-n-easy way of doing this as part of the startup regieme?
[03:04] <DJGummikuh> hey how do I burn cds/dvds in ubuntu?
[03:04] <JoHn123> hi
[03:04] <hoodlum> thanks olorin
[03:04] <shinobi2> stefg: did i already built the kernel?
[03:04] <lastnode> DJGummikuh, gnomebaker, k3b
[03:05] <DJGummikuh> lastnode: k3b pulls in half of kde as dependency :) how good is gnomebaker compeared to k3b?
[03:05] <olorin> DJGummikuh, nautilus burner, cdrdao, cdrecord
[03:05] <stefg> shinobi2: no, of course not. you nly installed the sources, which the vmware installer needs to build the proper kernel modules
[03:05] <lastnode> DJGummikuh, gnomebaker is great. i use it all the time. nautilus has an inbuilt cd burner too
[03:05] <DJGummikuh> lastnode: hmm interesting
[03:06] <shinobi2> stefg: how do i built the kernel?
[03:06] <stefg> !kernel
[03:06] <stefg> !kernel
[03:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:06] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:06] <JonaTh> !synaptic
[03:06] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[03:07] <root__> hello
[03:08] <lastnode> xgmm, dont irc as root.
[03:08] <stefg> !chat as root
[03:08] <lastnode> xgmm, please login as a user and come back
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chat as root - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <lastnode> !root-irc
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about root-irc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <lastnode> !irc-root
[03:08] <lastnode> wth, nvm
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about irc-root - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <lastnode> xgmm, moral of the story is dont irc as root. it's dangerous
[03:09] <Fayat> is there anyone who could help me to configure a vpn using pptpd please? I can connect to my vpn but can't access internet :o/
[03:09] <Greyscale> anyone at all help me?
[03:10] <stefg> !boot
[03:10] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[03:10] <JonaTh> !bot
[03:10] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:10] <xgmm> Im not loged in as root...
[03:10] <stefg> Greyscale: that was for you
[03:10] <rambo3> Greyscale, mount the in fstab
[03:10] <nils_> !kernel panic
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernel panic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <xgm> done ;] 
[03:11] <_tom_> !beer
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <stefg> !botabuse
[03:11] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[03:11] <xgm> !wine
[03:11] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:11] <ricky> lol
[03:11] <ricky> !poo
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about poo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:12] <stefg> ricky, we all know these kinds of joke already... they're lame
[03:12] <nils_> yeah but i have a kernel panix prob
[03:12] <nils_> panix
[03:12] <nils_> panic
[03:12] <ricky> lol i was only askin i didnt know it responed
[03:12] <stefg> nils_: so DON'T PANIC! :-)
[03:12] <nils_> fu
[03:13] <ricky> =)
[03:13] <nils_> i need this server up and running in a day
[03:13] <_tom_> and have a towel ready
[03:13] <nils_> and i hate slackware
[03:13] <xgm> Why i cant delete or store files into hda1 (winxp), when i try to do it i get error that i dont have permissions to do that
[03:13] <xgm> how to get those permissions ?
[03:13] <stefg> nils_: instead tell us when where and in which situation the panic appears
[03:14] <nils_> i put hte live cd for dapper into the cd slot, start the brand-new server (assembled from crack pieces) and it kernel panics
[03:14] <ricky> hey does anyone know when compiz is gonna be finished
[03:14] <stefg> xgm: you can
[03:14] <stefg> xgm: you can't write ntfs
[03:14] <stefg> !fuse
[03:14] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:14] <DJGummikuh> stefg: no captive-ntfs support in ubuntu?
[03:14] <stefg> no
[03:15] <stefg> !captive
[03:15] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:15] <_mason> When i use #zenity --entry    .. and what not How do i get the entered string ?
[03:15] <DJGummikuh> stefg: LOL
[03:15] <xgm> stefg: are u shure there is no way to write into ntfs thru ubuntu ?
[03:15] <lastnode_> _mason, that's a question for #bash no
[03:15] <DJGummikuh> xgm: nuts?
[03:15] <_mason> okok
[03:15] <DJGummikuh> xgm: READ for a moment
[03:15] <DJGummikuh> !fuse
[03:15] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:15] <stefg> xgm, do i sound like i'm joking? :-)
[03:15] <DJGummikuh> !captive
[03:15] <Greyscale> stefg- huh?
[03:15] <lastnode_> _mason, but, you can just load it into a string
[03:16] <xgm> oh thanks
[03:16] <ricky> there is, i seen something about writing to ntfs at ubuntuguide
[03:16] <Greyscale> how do I mount it using fstab
[03:16] <lastnode_> _mason, FOO$(zenity blah)
[03:16] <_mason> Thankyou lastnode_
[03:16] <Fayat> do you know how to enable routing on unbuntu?
[03:16] <lastnode_> _mason, im not sure of the exact syntax, let me know if it works
[03:16] <DJGummikuh> !routing
[03:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about routing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:16] <Fayat> because i've a problem with my vpon
[03:17] <Fayat> vpn
[03:17] <Fayat> i'm connected but i can't ping google through it
[03:17] <Smegzor> I need to run a terminal with root privilleges.  How do I achieve that in ubuntu?
[03:17] <Fayat> i use pptpd
[03:17] <_mason> lastnode_ all i needed to know was that its returning a string, the syntax  =  foo=`zenity --entry .. bla`
[03:17] <lastnode> !iptables
[03:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[03:17] <stefg> Smegzor: open the term and sudo -s
[03:18] <lastnode> _mason, sorry, that was it.
[03:18] <_mason> lastnode not a problem, thanks for your help
[03:18] <Smegzor> thanks
[03:19] <lastnode> _mason, i was mixing with python a little
[03:19] <xgm> i get error when im tryng to instal libfuse2
[03:19] <xgm> E: Couldn't find package libfuse2
[03:19] <xgm> with apt-get
[03:19] <xgm> what to doo ?
[03:19] <_mason> lastnode Pythons a great language
[03:19] <_mason> :)
[03:19] <Smegzor> the reason I asked is I ran Bastille and now I can't access my shared folder from my Windows network.  I'm pretty certain the problem is in my iptables (I'm guessing)
[03:19] <lastnode> _mason, aye mason. im working ons omething for ubuntu actually atm. interested in joining?
[03:20] <wickedpuppy> xgm, the package name may not be exactly libfuse2 in the repo ... you can do apt-cache search libfuse2 or use synaptic and search
[03:20] <ricky> what you workin on lastnode?
[03:20] <stefg_lap> !info libfuse2
[03:20] <ubotu> libfuse2: Filesystem in USErspace library. In component main, is extra. Version 2.4.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 40 kB, installed size 108 kB
[03:20] <xgm> there is libfuse on synaptic
[03:21] <shinobi2> stefg_lap: thx for your help.
[03:21] <BockBilbo> mm ive installed emelFM though dont know what's the app binary name
[03:21] <BockBilbo> any idea?
[03:21] <xgm> when i doot apt-cach nothing happens
[03:21] <xgm> doo*
[03:21] <frogzoo> Smegzor: bastille messes up a lot of things
[03:21] <Smegzor> I noticed :o
[03:21] <Smegzor> Is it possible to reverse what it did or am I sunk?
[03:22] <stefg_lap> backups are a good idea in any case .-)
[03:22] <Jaak_> Is it possible to edit/write onto ntfs drives from a live cd?
[03:22] <wickedpuppy> xgm, what did you type for apt-cache ?
[03:22] <Greyscale> anyone?
[03:23] <Greyscale> Mounting a SSHFS drive under fstab?
[03:23] <xgm> apt-catche search libfuse3
[03:23] <xgm> apt-catche search libfuse2
[03:23] <BockBilbo> ye
[03:23] <xgm> cache*
[03:23] <wickedpuppy> billy@wickedpuppy:~/programming/ruby/programming_ruby$ apt-cache search libfuse2
[03:23] <wickedpuppy> libfuse2 - Filesystem in USErspace library
[03:23] <wickedpuppy> like this ?
[03:24] <wickedpuppy> its cache ...
[03:24] <wickedpuppy> not catche
[03:24] <xgm> i know
[03:24] <wickedpuppy> :P
[03:24] <xgm> but still nothink
[03:24] <stefg_lap> Greyscale: i don't no if sshfs is a valid fstype in fstab, but you can write a script that mounts you sshfs and let it autostart by rc.local
[03:24] <xgm> root@xgm:~# apt-cache search libfuse2
[03:24] <xgm> root@xgm:~#
[03:24] <xgm> nothink...
[03:25] <wickedpuppy> xgm, you have all the repos enabled right ?
[03:25] <wickedpuppy> universe and multiverse and so on
[03:25] <xgm> what is repos ?
[03:25] <sonium> how can I get the time we have now?
[03:25] <wickedpuppy> !repos
[03:25] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:25] <sonium> in unix format
[03:25] <Greyscale> stefg_lap- How?
[03:25] <stefg_lap> !boot
[03:25] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[03:25] <wickedpuppy> sonium, date ?
[03:27] <stefg_lap> Greyscale: just type all the commands you normally run after startup in a script. Use rc.local to call it at boot
[03:27] <sonium> wickedpuppy: I need time in seconds since epoch
[03:27] <Greyscale> stefg_lap- But hoooow!
[03:28] <stefg_lap> Greyscale: You don't really want me to teach you how to write a script, do you?
[03:28] <Greyscale> Sadly, I'm a total lamer with script
[03:28] <surface-> when i run mplayer i doesn't show the gui
[03:28] <surface-> what should i do?
[03:28] <stefg_lap> !bash
[03:28] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[03:30] <Storkme> is it possible to install kde which i can use totally seperately ?
[03:30] <stefg_lap> http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/unix/bash-tute.html
[03:30] <Greyscale> yes.
[03:30] <Storkme> how?
[03:30] <xgm> damn i love linux shit :] 
[03:30] <Greyscale> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:30] <Greyscale> then choose at boot time
[03:30] <Greyscale> *login
[03:30] <Storkme> boot??
[03:30] <Storkme> oh
[03:30] <Storkme> ok
[03:30] <Greyscale> IMO Gnome > * > Kde
[03:31] <Greyscale> I hate KDE. It looks. Childish.
[03:31] <Greyscale> *WARNING - THIS IS AN OPINION*
[03:31] <Answer> Who needs guis anyways.  Terminal > *Gui > Gnome > KDE
[03:31] <Storkme> yeah i agree about gnome
[03:31] <Storkme> just wanted to kill some time
[03:32] <stefg_lap> DE wars are welcome in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:32] <Greyscale> What war?
[03:32] <Greyscale> Its just a discussion of preference.
[03:33] <Greyscale> Wars always go the same way
[03:33] <stefg_lap> the one which didn't start /yet/ :-)
[03:33] <Greyscale> KDE and Gnome fanboys
[03:33] <Greyscale> all bitching
[03:33] <Greyscale> then some wise-ass with a pop about CLI
[03:33] <surface-> when i run mplayer i doesn't show the gui
[03:33] <surface-> what should i do?
[03:33] <Greyscale> and some ass with FluxBox
[03:33] <stefg_lap> surface-: call it gmplayer
[03:34] <deFrysk> surface-, rightclik the box that pop us and tic show gui in prefs or something
[03:34] <deFrysk> us = up
[03:34] <surface-> deFrysk: doesn't have
[03:34] <surface-> no gui at all
[03:34] <xgm> I did everythink like there ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse ) but when i try to do this : sudo ntfsmount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 -o umask=0007, i get error : sudo: ntfsmount: command not found
[03:34] <xgm> help please
[03:35] <surface-> stefg_lap: can't find any gmplayer usign apt-cache
[03:35] <stefg_lap> surface-: it's still mplayer...the command gmplayer tells mplayer to show the gui... duh!
[03:35] <deFrysk> surface-, did you install automatix or something ?
[03:36] <surface-> oh, deFrysk never trust automatix
[03:36] <deFrysk> surface-, good answer
[03:36] <surface-> stefg_lap: thx
[03:36] <GaiaX11> My gnome-painel is in my left side monitor how do i put it in the bottom
[03:36] <xgm> help me please ?
[03:37] <surface-> but i remember last time i just type mplayer i doesn open the gui
[03:37] <stefg_lap> type gmplayer and it will
[03:37] <deFrysk> yes that is correct
[03:37] <deFrysk> its gmplayer
[03:38] <olorin> xgm, install ntfsprogs
[03:38] <xgm> installed
[03:38] <xgm> i did and still nothink
[03:38] <stefg_lap> xgm: you DO have a backup of your win-partition, don't you?
[03:38] <xgm> is i have
[03:39] <xgm> but why the ntfsmoun command doesnt work
[03:39] <olorin> xgm, as root ?
[03:40] <dutchy_> About Ubuntu Server
[03:40] <dutchy_> is the LAMP installation the only change?
[03:40] <dutchy_> compared to the normal desktop?
[03:40] <xgm> yes
[03:40] <xgm> why?
[03:40] <Greyscale> GaiaX11- drag it.
[03:40] <xgm> ntfsmount: commands not found
[03:40] <xgm> ntfsmount: command not found
[03:40] <olorin> xgm, please answer with "name, my_answer ..."
[03:41] <leshaste> this may seem like a dumb question but I am trying to upgrade from gentoo to ubuntu. Is there a DVD iso I can use or can I somehow burn the cd iso onto a dvd and still make it bootable?
[03:41] <xgm> ok
[03:41] <GaiaX11> Greyscale: I have tried. But, dont't work :-(
[03:41] <Greyscale> o.o
[03:41] <xgm> olorin, i installed ntfsprogrs but still no effect
[03:41] <Greyscale> on a blank bit?
[03:41] <xgm> olorin, what do you means 'as root' ?
[03:41] <Answer> GaiaX11: you have to drag it from the middle, or a place where there is no applet installed
[03:42] <olorin> xgm, what happen when typing the command ntfsmount ?
[03:42] <xgm> olorin, bash: ntfsmount: command not found
[03:42] <olorin> xgm, sudo ntfsmount
[03:42] <xgm> olorin, sudo: ntfsmount: command not found
[03:42] <Mnabil> how  can i set a static ip for my machine ?! internal ip
[03:42] <olorin> xgm, sudo apt-get install --reinstall ntfsprogs
[03:43] <Subhuman> Mnabil, system-admin-networking
[03:43] <GaiaX11> Answer: This is the problem. It is too full. I cannot grasp a free space for dragging.
[03:43] <leshaste> anyone?
[03:43] <Greyscale> Mnabil- hit system - admin -networ.... Subhuman got it.
[03:43] <xgm> olorin, E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:43] <Greyscale> xgm close synaptic..
[03:43] <olorin> xgm, close synatpic
[03:43] <leshaste> I found http://nginyang.uvt.nl/dapper/ but I don't know if it is official or not
[03:43] <Mnabil> Greyscale, from the command line ya 7elw
[03:43] <Greyscale> hmm
[03:43] <Greyscale> No idea. I did know. Now I can't remember
[03:44] <Greyscale> something to do with "ifconfig"
[03:44] <domster> Mnabil, edit /etc/network/interfaces
[03:44] <dipnlik> hi all. anyone using wikidpad / zim / any other wiki software?
[03:44] <Answer> GaiaX11: close all the programs and remove the applets.  you ahve to be able to click directly on gnome-panel to drag it, not an applet
[03:44] <xgm> olorin, done
[03:45] <olorin> xgm, retry the ntfsmount command
[03:45] <xgm> olorin, but still sudo: ntfsmount: command not found
[03:45] <Answer> Mnabil: sudo ifconfig device ip
[03:45] <Answer> Mnabil: example:  sudio ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.69
[03:45] <GaiaX11> Answer: many Thx ;-)
[03:45] <olorin> xgm, type 'which ntfsmount'
[03:45] <_tom_> xgm, try sudo su, and then you use the ntfsmount command
[03:45] <lightspeedbiker> Hello, First time on IRC in the Ubuntu group.  I had a question about installing beagle
[03:45] <Answer> Mnabil: if you want it to persist on reboot, edit the file /etc/network/interfaces
[03:46] <xgm> i know
[03:46] <xgm> i am already in root
[03:46] <Mnabil> Answer, so i can make it static ip , "internal static ip "
[03:46] <xgm> olorin, when i type 'which ntfsmount' nothink happens
[03:46] <Answer> Mnabil: I will send you my file as an example in msg
[03:46] <olorin> xgm, nothing ? :|
[03:46] <xgm> olrin, but there is no error ... just nothink...
[03:47] <olorin> xgm, blank output ?
[03:47] <xgm> ye
[03:47] <main2> can i stop my shell from bein localized (i want english only shell)???
[03:47] <olorin> xgm, echo $PATH
[03:47] <xgm> olorin, /usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[03:48] <olorin> xgm, locate ntfsmount
[03:48] <dutchy_> If im going to set up a computer which needs to run all sorts of programs, mp3 etc etc AND run various server progs and irssi etc, would you recommend the desktop or the server version of Ubuntu?
[03:48] <Greyscale> dutchy_- desktop
[03:49] <xgm> olorin, nothink again
[03:49] <Answer> dutchy_: desktop is cool
[03:49] <olorin> xgm, check if ntfsmount is present in /usr/bin/ directory
[03:49] <dutchy_> ok
[03:49] <teimu> hi, does anyone know what is being reffered to with "the user's session startup script"?
[03:50] <xgm> olorin, in that directory there is no ntfsmount.. hm thats strange
[03:50] <Answer> teimu: where do you see that quote, in a shell or in gnome?
[03:50] <teimu> Answer, xmodmap's man
[03:50] <xgm> ntfscluster
[03:51] <herminia> i have a prob! genieses
[03:51] <leshaste> is there any advice on upgrading from gentoo to ubuntu? I have /home in a separate partition but I imagine there will be a lot of issues to solve anyway
[03:51] <xgm> olorin, ntfsinfo
[03:51] <xgm> ,  ntfsls, ntfscat but no ntfsmount
[03:51] <teimu> Answer, is for mapping keys and buttons, and i want to have this done at startup, and they say to put a line in "the user's session startup script".
[03:51] <Answer> teimu: probably ~/.xmodmaprc
[03:52] <kling0n> I have a dependency issue (dapper) trying to install libgtk2.0-dev
[03:52] <kling0n> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:52] <kling0n>   libgtk2.0-dev: Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (= 2.8.17-1ubuntu5) but 2.8.20-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[03:52] <kling0n>                  Depends: libglib2.0-dev (>= 2.8.5) but it is not going to be installed
[03:52] <teimu> Answer, i wish i had one of those!
[03:52] <Answer> teimu: startup files are usually in the user's home directory with a . in front of the file and rc after, like  .bashrc for the bash shell
[03:52] <kling0n> nay suggestions?
[03:52] <kling0n> any
[03:52] <herminia> whe ubuntu boots it stops at mounting root
[03:52] <herminia> what shall i do
[03:52] <herminia> ?
[03:52] <teimu> by the way, what does rc mean?
[03:52] <Answer> kling0n: apt-get install libglib2.0-dev firest
[03:53] <kling0n> Answer,   libgtk2.0-dev: Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (= 2.8.17-1ubuntu5) but 2.8.20-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[03:53] <xgm> olorin, when i try to install ntfsprogs with apt-get again i get 'ntfsprogs is already the newest version.'
[03:53] <Arcad3> RC=Remote Connect
[03:53] <teimu> thanks Arcad3
[03:53] <Answer> teimu: I think it stands for "run command"
[03:53] <moore_bryan> little help... upgraded to edgy, gave me issues about acpid, now hangs on "usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice" on kernel boot... ideas?
[03:53] <kling0n> I have installed some packages through the repos added by easyubuntu
[03:53] <olorin> xgm, dpkg -L ntfsprogs | grep ntfsmount
[03:53] <Answer> teimu: but when it is in /etc/rc.d/ it means  runtime control
[03:54] <kling0n> I wonder if that is related
[03:54] <Arcad3> moore_bryan: shipit.ubuntu.com
[03:54] <teimu> well, instead, is there a script where i can just add shell lines, and they'll be run at start up? like some master startup file?
[03:54] <moore_bryan> arcad3: the boot cd?  won't rescue...
[03:55] <test0012> Hello, everyone. I'm trying to install edgy knot3, but i cannot make the installer begin install process, the forward button was disabled and could not be clicked.
[03:55] <Arcad3> download or order a CD
[03:55] <Arcad3> the best way
[03:55] <olorin> xgm, so ?
[03:55] <moore_bryan> i already have and it won't upgrade from the cd without the same probs...
[03:55] <xgm> olorin, blank, nothink...
[03:55] <test0012> I'm using manually partition, and the installer stops at prepare mount points.
[03:56] <Arcad3> Format and Install
[03:56] <Answer> xgm, olorin, what about  apt-get remove --purge ntfsmount;  apt-get update; apt-get install ntfsmount
[03:56] <olorin> xgm, are you using ubuntu ? ^o)
[03:56] <xgm> yes
[03:56] <olorin> Answer, xgm , yes try that
[03:56] <moore_bryan> i'm trying to stay away from wiping my hd.  is that the only way?
[03:56] <test0012> I've two partitions, one 8192 cyls (16head*63secs) at hda1, and swap at hda2 with 768 cyls.
[03:56] <Arcad3> now u have gentoo?
[03:57] <olorin> xgm, using ntfsprogs instead of ntfsmount
[03:57] <Arcad3> if u upgrade it in any way it will be buggy after that
[03:57] <xgm> hrr
[03:57] <SVisor> Suspend does (no longer, well since several updates) work with Ubuntu. My Dell 7000 has a 1/2 chance of suspending (instead of locking), and 1/2 of resume. Someone any ideas on what to try?
[03:57] <test0012> I'm trying to install edgy knot3, but i cannot make the installer begin install process, the forward button was disabled and could not be clicked. I've two partitions, one 8192 cyls (16head*63secs) at hda1, and swap at hda2 with 768 cyls. I'm using manually partition, and the installer stops at prepare mount points.
[03:57] <stefg_lap> test0012: /j #ubuntu+1
[03:57] <moore_bryan> can i boot into a command prompt, skipping the usb checking part?
[03:58] <Answer> SVisor: I remember something about acpi settings in the bios and suspend... did you search the wiki
[03:58] <tannerld> can someone help me get php working on a local apache server?
[03:58] <Arcad3> test u have an swap and a ext3?
[03:58] <test0012> Arcad3, i asked the installer to format hda1
[03:58] <SVisor> Answer: Jupp Ive tried all I could find. None gives me better chance of suspend/resume.
[03:58] <test0012> Arcad3, so the partition was in raw format (all zero)
[03:58] <xgm> olorin, i unninstalled ntsprogs, update apt, and istalled ntsprogs again and when i try ntfsmount still i get error that command not found
[03:59] <Arcad3> u have WIN$ installed right now?
[03:59] <DJGummikuh> sudo su
[03:59] <olorin> xgm, are you using common ubuntu repositories ?
[03:59] <test0012> Arcad3, I have Mac OS X 10.4.7 installed, I'm installing in Parallels Desktop for Mac virtual machine.
[04:00] <xgm> olorin, how to know that ?
[04:00] <Arcad3> i never used MAC
[04:00] <olorin> xgm, on traditional ubuntu system; the ubuntu package ntfsprogs contain the ntfsmount command
[04:00] <Arcad3> find an software for MAC and make an swap and an ext3
[04:00] <Answer> olorin: I just did the same thing.  apt-get install ntfsprogs,   locate ntfs,  there is no binary...
[04:00] <stefg_lap> SVisor: the average problem with suspend is that there are particular drivers/pieces of hardware that don't survive the suspend. This has to be dealt with by the scripzs in /etc/acpi/suspend. There are dozens of howto#s out there on the net
[04:00] <xgm> xgm, but it doesnt work on my system, btw im using ubuntu 5.1
[04:01] <olorin> Answer, yes ... locate doesn't work but well 'which ntfsmount'
[04:01] <test0012> Arcad3, I'm trying to use command line to prior the installer, i don't think it would work..
[04:01] <xgm> my ntldr gone on winxp (hda1) and im trying to access hda1 and copy new ntldr but i cant do that thru ubuntu...
[04:01] <Answer> olorin: there is no ntfsmount binary anywhere,  whereis, which, locate,  ls -l /usr/bin | grep ntfs
[04:02] <olorin>  which ntfsmount -> /usr/bin/ntfsmount on my system
[04:02] <Arcad3> xgm :boot from windows cd
[04:02] <Answer> olorin: I think you can just do   mount -t ntfs device dir
[04:02] <xgm> arcad3, dont have windows cd :}
[04:02] <Arcad3> ....
[04:02] <test0012> Arcad3, ok it works...
[04:03] <Arcad3> good
[04:03] <Answer> olorin: ls /usr/bin | grep ntfs:   ntfscat, ntfscluster, ntfsfix, ntfsinfo, ntfsls.
[04:03] <test0012> Arcad3, so where the bug tracker of ubuntu? i'll submit a bug.
[04:03] <Arcad3> its submitted
[04:04] <Answer> xgm: you just want to mount an ntfs partition?    what about    "mount -t ntfs device dir"
[04:04] <xgm> Answer, same for me...does anyone knows how to edit ntfs
[04:04] <Arcad3> the installer has a big BUG
[04:04] <xgm> answer, i know how to mount, i want to edit files on it...
[04:04] <Answer> ohhhh riiiiiight   goood luck
[04:04] <Dr_willis> you need to use one of the ntfs drivers that let you write to ntfs.
[04:04] <xgm> answer, and i get error that i dont have permissions when i doo that
[04:04] <olorin> Answer, :D
[04:04] <Dr_willis> like the ntfs-3g or captiventfs
[04:04] <Answer> xgm: I tried to do that for two weeks to hack that and I never got it.
[04:04] <xgm> Answer, :D luxky u
[04:05] <xgm> Dr_willis, does it works ?
[04:05] <Answer> xgm: there was a really good website that was the current state of editing ntfs in linux... let me search
[04:05] <Arcad3> xgm:what OS r u rolling now?
[04:05] <Dr_willis> xgm,  no idea.
[04:05] <xgm> arcad3, ubuntu 5.1, and im tryng to edit xp files on hda1 (ntfs)
[04:06] <Dr_willis> 5.1 ?
[04:06] <Arcad3> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:06] <Dr_willis> egads.. thats a bit old now a days
[04:06] <olorin> xgm, Dr_willis  5.1 .. that's why you don(t have ntfsmount
[04:06] <xgm> "/media/hda1/a.jpg" cannot be moved because it is on a read-only disk.
[04:06] <xgm> olorin, what should i do ?
[04:07] <Arcad3> edit the grum nemu lst
[04:07] <olorin> xgm, however, i recommand not writing on ntfs partition from a linux system
[04:07] <xgm> olorin, is it hard to upgrade ubuntu from 5.1 to newer version ?
[04:07] <Answer> xgm: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481  " 	HOWTO: Mount NTFS volumes with write support"
[04:07] <Arcad3> and add hda1 in the boot list
[04:07] <xgm> answer, thanks
[04:07] <dipnlik> xgm: it's very easy
[04:07] <xgm> olorin, but how should cope that ntldr to hda1 ::?
[04:07] <dipnlik> xgm: i installed 5.10 an then... i waited
[04:08] <Arcad3> i had the same prob
[04:08] <dipnlik> xgm: it said "upgrades available", I said "yeah, install", then some hours laters I was on 6.06 :)
[04:08] <Arcad3> i fixed it like this
[04:08] <xgm> dipnlink, hours :}
[04:08] <dipnlik> xgm: i had to download some 300MB :-P
[04:09] <Arcad3> ba xgmfa asa cum zic io:))
[04:09] <fulat2k> hey folks, anyone knows a good frontend to rip+encode dvd or any other source?
[04:10] <Dr_willis> dvd::rip
[04:10] <Dr_willis> i use grip for audio cds
[04:10] <ikonia> urghhhhh inkscape won't print anything......this is really annoying
[04:10] <tannerld> can someone help me get php working on a local apache server?
[04:10] <ikonia> every other app sends jobs to the queue
[04:10] <ikonia> and they print
[04:10] <ikonia> except inkscapoe
[04:10] <ikonia> inkscape
[04:12] <fulat2k> Dr_willis: that's still the standard after so long?
[04:12] <Dr_willis> fulat2k,  no idea. but it works very well for me.
[04:12] <SVisor> Another problem: I can print files, but I can not print from Firefox (or any other app that pipes the output). The printer widget gets activated and lists the job, but no output from the printer. Any idea?
[04:12] <nils_> hello @all my amarok does not work
[04:12] <Answer> tannerld: install LAMPP or XAMPP and it will work with no problem
[04:12] <nils_> i can see the splash screen but nothing else
[04:12] <Arcad3> tannerrld:make ur site in html an clone the files in php
[04:12] <stefg_lap> !cups
[04:12] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:13] <SVisor> Gives nada
[04:13] <stefg_lap> just a try ...
[04:13] <forevertheuni> !splash
[04:13] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.
[04:13] <forevertheuni> :/
[04:13] <ChrisWhite> ack
[04:13] <ChrisWhite> where was that upgrade guide again?
[04:13] <forevertheuni> the boot splash is gensplash or fbsplash?
[04:13] <forevertheuni> !fbsplash
[04:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fbsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:13] <stefg_lap> !upgrade
[04:13] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:13] <forevertheuni> :/
[04:14] <ChrisWhite> thanks
[04:14] <cherubiel> nils_: prolly it minimizes into the taskbar, check the taskbar at the top
[04:14] <nils_> lol
[04:14] <forevertheuni> I wanted to change the inicial splash of edgy (I don't mind to use the one from dapper
[04:14] <stefg_lap> forevertheuni: usplash
[04:14] <nils_> chrubiel: no it doesnt. i am not dumb.
[04:14] <forevertheuni> !usplash
[04:14] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[04:14] <forevertheuni> stefg_lap, thank you
[04:15] <cherubiel> nils_: if you weren't dumb, you would've checked if the process is running on a console.
[04:15] <cherubiel> nils_: and would;ve tried to run strace/ltrace to see what/where it crashes
[04:15] <Answer> cherubiel: if you weren't dumb you wouldn't try to insult people.
[04:15] <cherubiel> hey, i was trying to help dude!
[04:15] <Answer> cherubiel: if you dont have anything nice to say....
[04:16] <ChrisWhite> so if I decide to helpout with testing Edge from dapper, is it really all that unstable?
[04:16] <stefg_lap> !edgy
[04:16] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[04:16] <anjo>  how do i fix this problem ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255658
[04:16] <ChrisWhite> stefg_lap: does that thing have a list :o?
[04:16] <Answer> ChrisWhite: you probably won't encounter any problems unless you are pushing the envelope.  most normal stuff works in the beta release
[04:17] <nils_> chrubiel: thanks
[04:17] <Sakireth> Hi. I've switched to another PC (traded harddisks). How to reconfigure everything without reinstalling?
[04:17] <xg> hey
[04:17] <ChrisWhite> I'll probably look at trying it out after I get work done today (Oh the joys of being hailed to work on a Sunday :( )
[04:17] <xg> wizard: can u repaste that link again ?
[04:18] <stefg_lap> ChrisWhite: edgy is still a building site... usplash, DVB-support, gnome-settings.... don't expext to use it for anything but playing around yet
[04:18] <xg> wyzard: can u repaste link
[04:18] <Sakireth> Anyone?
[04:18] <ChrisWhite> Well if anything goes _really_ bad I can always just re-install dapper
[04:19] <nils_> cherubiel: amarok is up and running - i just cannot find it
[04:19] <ChrisWhite> shouldn't take that long now that I've actually done it
[04:19] <nils_> !ltrace
[04:19] <ubotu> ltrace: Tracks runtime library calls in dynamically linked programs. In component main, is standard. Version 0.3.36-2 (dapper), package size 60 kB, installed size 180 kB (Only available for i386 arm m68k s390 powerpc sparc alpha amd64)
[04:19] <Sakireth> Hello?
[04:19] <stefg_lap> ChrisWhite: use a spare partition, don't erase your dapper now
[04:19] <v3l0ct> ChrisWhite: take a look at the forums, couple of good threads on going from dapper to edgy at this time
[04:19] <Samuli^> sakireth, one thing would be to check everything to be reinstalled from synaptic :)
[04:20] <Sakireth> Samuli^: How?
[04:20] <Samuli^> Sakireth, do you have running X?
[04:20] <anjo> partition copy would be better
[04:20] <khermans_> is there a firefox extension that opens all "new window links" in a tab?
[04:20] <Sakireth> Samuli^: Yes.
[04:20] <ORI0N-1> hi, i need help with GDMSetup... it won't run, it says i must be the root user to run it..
[04:21] <Sakireth> Better just reinstall the whole shit and wait till my parents get home, for the CD.
[04:21] <v3l0ct> ORI0N-1: right
[04:21] <khermans_> i hate when they use HREF _blank
[04:21] <ORI0N-1> but there's no root in ubuntu right?
[04:21] <v3l0ct> ORI0N-1: sudo gdmsetup
[04:21] <khermans_> ORI0N-1, yes there is
[04:21] <ORI0N-1> ah yes, sudo, forgot about that
[04:21] <xg> what programs do u know which are same as nautilus ?
[04:21] <_tom_> khermans_, try tab mix plus
[04:21] <khermans_> ORI0N-1, dont use it to log in though
[04:21] <xg> i mean what other exlprers there are ? on ubuntu ?
[04:21] <ORI0N-1> ok
[04:21] <khermans_> _tom_, thx!
[04:21] <ORI0N-1> thanks :)
[04:22] <anjo> ORI0N-1,  you can use sudo -i in a terminal
[04:22] <anjo> same as root, i think
[04:22] <ORI0N-1> ok , thanks
[04:22] <v3l0ct> su - is the same are root
[04:22] <khermans_> ORI0N-1, just type "sudo -i"
[04:22] <anjo> but i only enter sudo - i once per session
[04:23] <v3l0ct> but it won't recognize the password because the password you set is for user not root
[04:23] <ORI0N-1> i'm in, i didn't know that gdmsetup was the login window manager... i could of just ran that from the menu instead
[04:23] <v3l0ct> ORI0N-1: lol, yeah it's the same
[04:23] <albacker> when will edgy be out ? and is there any problem with edgy+laptops !?
[04:23] <dipnlik> xg: i heard of thunar but never used. what do you want that nautilus doesn't have?
[04:23] <stefg_lap> !schedule
[04:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:23] <xg> how about that qonqueror
[04:23] <xg> or what ever it is called
[04:23] <v3l0ct> dipnlik: thunar is very nice.  I've heard that gnome may eventually use it instead of nautilus
[04:24] <anjo> !edgy
[04:24] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[04:24] <Versed> anyone have any problems with the screensavers looking up dapper on a g4 mac?
[04:24] <Subhuman> !schendule
[04:24] <Samuli^> Sakireth, well go to system/administration/package management and do it from there
[04:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about schendule - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:24] <xg> !thunar
[04:24] <Subhuman> !schedule
[04:24] <ubotu> thunar: File Manager for Xfce. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.0+r21789-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 368 kB, installed size 2632 kB
[04:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:24] <xg> where can i get thunar ?
[04:24] <stefg_lap> Err, ghu
[04:25] <ubuntuer> hi
[04:25] <v3l0ct> xg: repo or download from xfce.org and compile it
[04:25] <jpjacobs> xg, apt-get install thunar?
[04:25] <Samuli^> xg, from repositories
[04:25] <v3l0ct> yep
[04:25] <anjo>   /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH
[04:25] <ubuntuer> I want to ask something about local apt repositories
[04:25] <v3l0ct> ubuntuer: ask
[04:25] <stefg_lap> Err, guys... there _are_ scrollbars to scroll back in chat, indeed. Having the bot repeat himself bores him, and me...
[04:25] <anjo> i get that when i run make - i had to apt-get install make
[04:26] <dipnlik> v3l0ct: are you serious? can you do any highlights on it over nautilus? for me nautilus is good enough, at least for now
[04:26] <Samuli^> anjo, install the whole build-essential package.
[04:26] <anjo> Samuli^,  thanks :)
[04:26] <dipnlik> xg: konqueror is VERY nice too, but if you want it, maybe you should switch to kubuntu ;-)
[04:26] <v3l0ct> dipnlik: it's lighter on memory use.  It's at version 0.4 right now.  It still has a little way to go functionality wise before it is better than nautilus
[04:26] <xg> why kubuntu ?
[04:27] <xg> btw what the diffrence betwen ubuntu and kubuntu ?
[04:27] <Answer> xg: ubuntu is gnome, kubuntu is kde
[04:27] <archangelpetro> one defaults to gnome and one defaults to kde a
[04:27] <v3l0ct> ubuntu = gnome, kubuntu = kde
[04:27] <xg> hehe :P
[04:27] <Answer> xg: konquerer is default browser for kde
[04:27] <xg> i think gnome is better
[04:27] <ubuntuer> I have downloaded metacity source with apt-get source, changed the .c files to remove the window snapping, built the packages with dpkg-BUILDPACKAGE, and created a local repository by adding the following line in sources.list just after the cd entry deb file:/home/packagediversions/ ./
[04:27] <v3l0ct> it's all a matter of opinion, choice is good
[04:27] <xg> can i run konqueror on gnome ?
[04:28] <unfknblvbl> kde has alot of apps
[04:28] <v3l0ct> sure
[04:28] <v3l0ct> xg: sure
[04:28] <dipnlik> xg: probably yes, but maybe it'll load half of kde along
[04:28] <ubuntuer> While synaptics sees my new .deb files I can't install them with apt-get install. Any ideas?
[04:28] <v3l0ct> xg: you'll install half of KDE to run it but it's up to you
[04:28] <Dr_willis> the more i use gnome.. the more i perfer kde. :)
[04:28] <Samuli^> ubuntuer, what do you need repository for. Just install the .deb with dpkg -i name.deb
[04:28] <v3l0ct> ubuntuer: just use dpkg to install it from terminal
[04:28] <jbmigel> hi my laptop died from battery the other day and now my ndiswrapper wont start, dmesg complains "ndis init failed" any ideas?
[04:29] <v3l0ct> yeah, what Samuli^ said
[04:29] <Samuli^> ubuntuer, or just double click on the file in nautilus :)
[04:29] <ubuntuer> Yes at first I did it like that but still I want to create a local repository cause I plan to alter more packages
[04:29] <xg> dipnlink, what is the fastest and safest way to upgrade ubuntu from 5.1 to newest without creating cd's ?
[04:29] <afief> Anybody knows how to run MPC audio files in ubuntu?
[04:29] <v3l0ct> xg:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:29] <stefg_lap> !upgrade
[04:29] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:29] <xg> thats it ?
[04:30] <dipnlik> xg: yes, that's it :)
[04:30] <Samuli^> you need to change your repositories from breezy to dapper I think.
[04:30] <unfknblvbl> the best answers are the simple ones
[04:30] <stefg_lap> xg: you'll need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list first
[04:30] <Samuli^> then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:30] <v3l0ct> xg: just change the source list in apt and point to dapper instead of breazy
[04:30] <v3l0ct> breezy
[04:30] <afief> Anybody knows how to run MPC audio files in ubuntu?
[04:30] <ubuntuer> So I know I can install them with dpkg -i. How could I install them with apt through my local repository. If possible I wouldn't want to pin any packages...
[04:31] <eriksays> hi all
[04:31] <xg> which line should i edit ?
[04:31] <pty> pin?
[04:31] <anjo> Samuli^,  i did apt-get install build-essential - but no change
[04:31] <Samuli^> xg, sudo sed -e 's/breezy/dapper/g' -i etc/apt/sources.list
[04:31] <Vegeta^> I want to install vpython on Linux, but it says Python is already installed, and there are many other packages called something with python2.x-*****, which one am I supposed to install?
[04:31] <ubuntuer> you know by editing the etc/apt/preferences
[04:31] <Samuli^> xg, that replaces every breezy to dapper in file sources.list
[04:32] <xg> Samuli^, sudo sed -e 's/breezy/dapper/g' -i etc/apt/sources.list
[04:32] <ubuntuer> @pty: you know by editing the etc/apt/preferences
[04:32] <Samuli^> xg, /etc
[04:32] <Toma-> afief: yeh, you need the musepack
[04:33] <afief> Toma: is it in the repositories?
[04:33] <anjo> !paste
[04:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:33] <Toma-> afief: yep. just search syanptic for musepack
[04:33] <pty> ubuntuer: not sure what you mean, sorry
[04:33] <xg> thanks
[04:33] <xg> so know i need to write sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:33] <xg> right?
[04:33] <stefg_lap> yup
[04:33] <afief> Toma: the problem is my synaptic doesn't work because of an XGL SO file version incompactibility
[04:33] <v3l0ct> get ready for 600mg upgrade though ;)
[04:34] <ubuntuer> @pty: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-pin
[04:34] <unfknblvbl> lol
[04:34] <stefg_lap> xg: but sudo apt-get update before
[04:34] <unfknblvbl> its easier to download the cd
[04:34] <unfknblvbl> incase
[04:34] <xg> k
[04:34] <unfknblvbl> there is a megaerror
[04:34] <Toma-> gday lenny :)
[04:34] <hoodlum> hi, ive installed fluxbox for my window manager, but having trouble changing screen resolution and refresh rate, tried to do so in xorg.conf but dont think i did it correct, anyone help me out?
[04:35] <afief> Toma-: apt can't find it either
[04:35] <Kainet> hoodlum, check your xorg.conf
[04:35] <hoodlum> ehh ive done that..
[04:35] <ubuntuer> of course pinning is a solution but I wouldn't want to do that. Guess no one knows something I didn't knew already about my problem. thanks anyway
[04:35] <stefg_lap> hoodlum: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:35] <hoodlum> thanks :)
[04:35] <Mehercle> hi... I have a apt-get repo, very basic, but i want to create a new. Is the a frontend for reprepro or falcon or another repo builder?
[04:36] <Toma-> !info xmms-musepack
[04:36] <ubotu> xmms-musepack: XMMS Input plugin for playing music MPC (Musepack) files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-RC1+1.2release-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 19 kB, installed size 88 kB
[04:37] <adioe3> What would be the easiest way to remove GNOME off an Ubuntu installation on which I've installed KDE? The GNOME metapackage isn't checked.
[04:37] <kendals> Hey, i need a GOOD FTP client (GUI please)- FireFTP hogs my CPU and doesn't give good details of transfers; IglooFTP isn't free; gFTP doesn't do permissions properly when you upload so you need to change them, and kFTP keeps crashing... :(
[04:37] <anjo> Samuli^,  my make error continues after apt-get essential-build  - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24674
[04:37] <afief> Toma-: but i don't use XMMS, i just use totem for my simple audio needs
[04:37] <Toma-> !info gstreamer0.8-musepack
[04:37] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-musepack: Musepack (MPC) audio decoder plugin for GStreamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.12-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 38 kB, installed size 100 kB
[04:37] <Toma-> use that then
[04:38] <Toma-> kendals: gftp is my weapon of choice
[04:38] <v3l0ct> kendals:  kasablanca, not sure if it's in the repos though.  May have to compile it yourself
[04:38] <MikeyMike> how do i check what kind of cpu usage my programs are using in terminal?
[04:38] <anjo>   the directory exists but no build file or folder -   /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build
[04:38] <MikeyMike> i want to know how much adium is using
[04:38] <Toma-> MikeyMike: 'top'
[04:38] <bur[n] er> kendals: nautilus, konqueror, kasablanca
[04:39] <Mehercle> hi... I have a apt-get repo, very basic, but i want to create a new. Is the a frontend for reprepro or falcon or another repo builder?
[04:39] <MikeyMike> Toma-, you think osx will have top? :)
[04:39] <kendals> Oh, sorry guys- Nautilus gives no indication of file progress when transferring.
[04:39] <MikeyMike> swwt
[04:39] <MikeyMike> :D
[04:39] <kendals> gFTP requires I change file permissions after uploading all the time.
[04:39] <kendals> rfom read only to accessible
[04:39] <kendals> etc
[04:39] <minerale> !mplayer-plugin
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mplayer-plugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <Toma-> MikeyMike: doubt it. but im sure you could compile for it :)
[04:39] <MikeyMike> Toma-, :D it does
[04:39] <kendals> but i guess i'll stick with gftp... :(
[04:39] <kendals> i miss flashfxp
[04:39] <Toma-> rad
[04:39] <cherubiel> anjo: make a symlink to the kernel sources and you'll be good.
[04:39] <MikeyMike> i shoudl ahve realized top did that
[04:39] <minerale> I could swear there is a mplayer-plugin package that works for firefox, what is it ?
[04:39] <minerale> !plugin-mplayer
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plugin-mplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <cherubiel> anjo: ln -s /usr/src/kernel-source-2.x.y /lib/modules/2.x.y-z-arch/build
[04:40] <Toma-> !info mozplugger
[04:40] <ubotu> mozplugger: Plugin allowing external viewers to be launched inside Mozilla. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-1 (dapper), package size 44 kB, installed size 192 kB
[04:41] <rosshend> is the apple sudden motion sensor functional while using ubuntu?
[04:41] <jerrcs> hi. im getting an odd error whenever i try to passwd: "Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info."
[04:41] <anjo> do i need to unpack the source ?
[04:41] <cherubiel> anjo: yes, also instead of the linking part, you could do an export KERNELPATH=/path/to/kernel/source
[04:41] <anjo>  ls /usr/src   =  linux-source-2.6.15.tar.bz2
[04:41] <ubuntuer> @kendals: nothing to do withh your question but apple's finder and "stock" firefox are the worst ftp clients to download anything and they don't even allow uploads. For firefox I can understand not allowing uploads but for finder?? thanks apple... :-P
[04:42] <anjo> cherubiel, OK, thanks
[04:42] <cherubiel> anjo: unzip it
[04:44] <Mehercle> hi... I have a apt-get repo, very basic, but i want to create a new. Is the a frontend for reprepro or falcon or another repo builder?
[04:44] <ubuntuer> @Mehercle: repo frontend?
[04:44] <Mehercle> i want to manage my own repo
[04:45] <Mehercle> now i'm doing it manually
[04:45] <Mehercle> but i want a frontend for something like reprepro
[04:45] <ubuntuer> cool. I always though dpkg-scanpackages is enough
[04:46] <Mehercle> dont kno
[04:46] <Mehercle> w
[04:46] <minerale> anyone know about a firefox plugin that works with mplayer?
[04:47] <Mehercle> mozilla-mplayer?
[04:47] <rNIUS> hi ;)
[04:47] <cherubiel> wait, Mehercle you aren;t talking about a repo mirror, are you?
[04:47] <Mehercle> no
[04:47] <lizliz> hi
[04:48] <Mehercle> i have ao
[04:48] <Mehercle> i have a repo with my own packages
[04:48] <Mehercle> but i want a frontend for falcon or reprepro or something to make it easier
[04:48] <Kidman> hello
[04:48] <Kidman> I have a problem with a mounted partition
[04:49] <minerale> mehercle: I installed that package, but it only have two files, to conf files on etc, and no actual plugins, the plugin had several .so files into the default plugin path
[04:49] <Mehercle> or can someone give me a good guide for falcon or reprepro
[04:49] <homer_linux> hiya ppl i cant get gcursor to accpet any new themes is it because im running xgl/compiz
[04:49] <Kidman> I can only copy files there as root
[04:49] <Kidman> not as a normal user
[04:49] <Dr_willis> Kidman,  and what kind of partiotion is this?
[04:49] <ubuntuer> Mehercle are your packages modified ubuntu ones or new programs not available on ubuntu repositories?
[04:49] <Kidman> fat32 Dr_willis
[04:49] <Mehercle> new
[04:49] <Kidman> that's my /etc/fstab entry
[04:49] <Kidman> /dev/hda5       /media/D        vfat    user,ro,rw      0       0
[04:49] <Mehercle> minerale: w8 a second plese
[04:50] <Dr_willis> Kidman,  you need to mount the partition with the proper umask= option, OR i think if your user mounts it.. and the 'ro,rw' is redundant.
[04:50] <phaedrus444> bah!  where do i start to look for reasons why my ubuntu keeps freezing up?
[04:50] <Dr_willis> Kidman,  remove the 'ro', unmount it, let the user mount it - and see.
[04:50] <Mehercle> minerale: sudo apt-get install totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin
[04:50] <writingdesk> any amd64 dapper users out there?
[04:50] <Mehercle> ubuntuer: you hve a solution for me?
[04:51] <Kidman> yeah but what about auto mount? I don't wanna mount it every time I use my pc Dr_willis
[04:51] <Dr_willis> Kidman,  thers dozens of web sites/guides for what to use. you may need to use 'umask=0222'
[04:51] <ubuntuer> @phaedrus444: start looking at the cpu fan...
[04:51] <Dr_willis> You dont want it auto mounting at all. if SO then the root user it the one mounting it.. OR you set the umask option.
[04:51] <Kidman> ok I will see...... thanks for the help Dr_willis
[04:52] <Dr_willis> Kidman,  so it all depends.. you want all users to access it? or just 1, or ... .so on. :P
[04:52] <v3l0ct> anybody know the command to open a link from xchat in firefox?
[04:52] <Answer> v3l0ct: right click or double click...
[04:52] <sdubois92> Hello everyone
[04:52] <ubuntuer> sorry Mehercle I don't. I use dpkg-scan[ackages for all my repo needs and I haven't (yet) build a package from scratch
[04:52] <v3l0ct> doesn't work
[04:52] <Dr_willis> i got them on my right click menu.. but i installed the older xchat.
[04:53] <Answer> v3l0ct: right click, copy the link, paste in firefox...
[04:53] <Dr_willis> it has several options to open them in new firefox, new tab, new window. ect..
[04:53] <Mehercle> ubuntuer: ok
[04:53] <v3l0ct> i can do that,  there's a way to program url handlers but I'm not sure how to do it.
[04:53] <ubuntuer> @Answer: Or select the text, and middle click in firefox ;)
[04:54] <sdubois92> Linux or Mac, which one is better?
[04:54] <anjo> cherubiel, ln -s /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15/ /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build
[04:54] <Dr_willis> Open In New Firefox window -->  !firefox -a firefox -remote 'openURL(%s,new-window)'
[04:54] <rosshend> sdubois92, Linux course, im running it on a mac
[04:54] <writingdesk> current update to dapper amd64 kernel-image (2.6.15-27) will cause bittorrent (or java more likely) to lock up entire system (bug reported)
[04:54] <Dr_willis> open in new firefox tab -->  !firefox -a firefox -remote 'openURL(%s,new-tab)'
[04:55] <anjo> cherubiel,  make - Makefile.inc:119: *** KERNELCONF: /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build/.config does not exist..  Stop.
[04:55] <cherubiel> anjo: yep, make sure your kernel version matches
[04:55] <DarkLight> hi all
[04:55] <sdubois92> Im using a IBM PC with ubuntu and a MacBook
[04:55] <sdubois92> Hello DrakLight
[04:55] <v3l0ct> Dr_willis: thanks
[04:55] <ubuntuer> v310ct: go to gconf-editor at key /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/http. Maybe that will help...
[04:55] <sdubois92> Dark*
[04:56] <Dr_willis> v3l0ct,  xchat 2.4.4 has better menu items..  for some reason they dumbed down 2.6 :( i get the source for 2.4 and use it instead
[04:56] <anjo>  cherubiel -  2.6.15-27-386
[04:56] <DarkLight> who has the 6.06 ubuntu on computer?
[04:56] <sdubois92> Me
[04:56] <sdubois92> I installed it last week
[04:56] <rosshend> sdubois92, im on linux macbook
[04:56] <Answer> DarkLight: I have it on several
[04:56] <ubuntuer> me too
[04:56] <v3l0ct> Dr_willis: I noticed that, maybe it is the ubuntu way
[04:57] <Dr_willis> v3l0ct,  nope - its xchats defaults
[04:57] <earthen> 6.06 64 or 32 bit
[04:57] <sdubois92> 32
[04:57] <sdubois92> im on an OLD ibm
[04:57] <Dr_willis> v3l0ct,  or at least it seems to be..  the other disrtos may be tweaking them back... :()
[04:57] <v3l0ct> ubuntuer: thanks but it's an xchat issue
[04:57] <earthen> I have it on my Ferrari laptop
[04:57] <DarkLight> so who can tell me how to install ubuntu with out erase my windows?
[04:57] <doddy> just installed eclipse and all i get is splashscreen stuck on desktop. Anyone got any ideas what could be stopping? and how to get splash off now? i.e. task manager for Xp equivalent
[04:57] <sdubois92> when you put the disk in it will ask you if u want to erase everything or partition your HD
[04:57] <v3l0ct> Dr_willis: others distro i have use they are tweaked back :)
[04:57] <Answer> DarkLight: you have to have enough free space on the harddrive to create a new partition for ubuntu
[04:58] <earthen> sdubois92,  yeah
[04:58] <Answer> doddy: in command line run "killall eclipse"
[04:58] <DarkLight> i have
[04:58] <Dr_willis> v3l0ct,  yea xchat - is getting more and more annoying with every new version
[04:58] <ubuntuer> really does anyone have the ubuntu (insert_religion_here) edition installed? I swear in root I wouldn't believe something like that ever to hit the ftp servers...
[04:59] <doddy> Answer: bash: kill: eclipse: arguments must be process or job IDs is the response. Is there a way to view running apps?
[05:00] <DarkLight> the full installation is the alternate cd????
[05:00] <wickedpuppy> doddy, ps aux | grep eclipse
[05:00] <wickedpuppy> then get the number under PID and kill pid_num
[05:00] <sdubois92> Is 6.10 out yet?
[05:00] <ubuntuer> Alternate CD rocks! You can rescue your system with that if grub ever barfs up on you...
[05:00] <wickedpuppy> !schedule
[05:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:01] <c0nfidencal> hey all
[05:01] <sdubois92> Hello
[05:01] <c0nfidencal> i installed nvidia drivers
[05:01] <c0nfidencal> but now my monitor refresh rate is
[05:01] <c0nfidencal> 60
[05:01] <c0nfidencal> but in xorg.conf there is everythings fine, it should be 85
[05:01] <c0nfidencal> what should i do :X
[05:01] <wickedpuppy> c0nfidencal, have you restarted X ?
[05:01] <c0nfidencal> yes
[05:02] <granden> Hi, I got a webserver running ubuntu 6.06 and I belive there is some module or similair I have to load because my htaccess and htpasswd protection is not working fully.
[05:02] <granden> It is not accepting my password
[05:02] <granden> Even if it is right.
[05:02] <Samuli^> c0nfidencal, you can't change the refresh rate from /system/preferences/screen resolution, then?
[05:02] <doddy> wickedpuppy: lots of info just displayed onto screen nothing that I can make out for PID any pointers? this is the last line on screen:mark      9235  0.0  0.1   2892   812 pts/2    R+   16:00   0:00 grep eclipse
[05:02] <c0nfidencal> yes, i cant
[05:02] <c0nfidencal> http://phpfi.com/156705
[05:02] <c0nfidencal> my xorg.conf file
[05:03] <wickedpuppy> doddy, try kill 9235
[05:03] <wickedpuppy> doddy, try ps aux
[05:03] <wickedpuppy> and look at the top line
[05:03] <doddy> wickedpuppy thanks that worked! ps aux....cheers
[05:03] <sdubois92> Where can I get a digital clock screensaver for ubuntu?
[05:04] <wickedpuppy> doddy, so you know which is PID ?
[05:04] <doddy> yeah it has killed now too
[05:04] <c0nfidencal> well :
[05:04] <c0nfidencal> :/
[05:04] <grogoreo> hi
[05:04] <c0nfidencal> hi, grogoreo
[05:04] <wickedpuppy> goodie :P ps is a very good command ... very useful especially for killing
[05:04] <wickedpuppy> lol
[05:04] <grogoreo> I'm having problems with apport where it says when configuring with apt that the initscript failed and it returned a status 1 exit code
[05:04] <fulat2k> anyone knows how i can resize my root partition?
[05:05] <doddy> yeah thats one i will be remembering!
[05:05] <doddy> eclipse has started this time round too, cheers
[05:05] <c0nfidencal> Samuli^, wickedpuppy, is my xorg.conf file fine?
[05:05] <ubuntuer> c0nfidencal HorizSync and HorizSync are definetely wrong. What's up with the decimals?
[05:05] <c0nfidencal> ubuntuer,
[05:05] <c0nfidencal> well, without drivers
[05:05] <c0nfidencal> it worked as 85
[05:06] <c0nfidencal> with these settings
[05:06] <c0nfidencal> :/
[05:06] <c0nfidencal> i got ...sync "numbers" from
[05:06] <kling0n> !ypcat
[05:06] <c0nfidencal> modline tool generator
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ypcat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <c0nfidencal> or something like that
[05:06] <kling0n> !ypwhich
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ypwhich - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <kling0n> mhm
[05:06] <kling0n> !yp
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <cradek> !nis
[05:06] <ubotu> nis: Clients and daemons for the Network Information Services (NIS). In component main, is extra. Version 3.15-3ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 199 kB, installed size 784 kB
[05:07] <cradek> kling0n: ^^^
[05:07] <c0nfidencal> ubuntuer, how then it should be? i need 1280x768@85
[05:07] <sdubois92> What is the best Linux distro?
[05:07] <c0nfidencal> ^^
[05:07] <kling0n> cradek, thnx
[05:07] <[BTF] Chm0d> hey guys what is the command to extract some files to a certain location using the terminal?
[05:07] <ubuntuer> c0nfidecal: my xorg.conf: VertRefresh  50.0 - 150.0
[05:07] <ubuntuer> you get the idea...
[05:07] <wickedpuppy> c0nfidencal, my monitor section has no refreshVert ... lol
[05:07] <c0nfidencal> ^^
[05:07] <Dr_willis> [BTF] Chm0d,  depends on the archive the files are in
[05:07] <c0nfidencal> ubuntuer, and what about
[05:07] <wickedpuppy> ok VertRefresh ...
[05:08] <wickedpuppy> oh well i am diving in :P Zzzz
[05:08] <c0nfidencal> HorizSync?
[05:08] <[BTF] Chm0d> tar.gz
[05:08] <earthen> sdubois92,  best is hard to say, but you will not find meny distro's easer to setup than Ubuntu
[05:08] <sdubois92> Is Debian harder than Ubuntu?
[05:09] <earthen> sdubois92,  so i would say Ubuntu is maybe the best to get your feet wet so to speak
[05:09] <ubuntuer> You should read the manual of you monitor and insert the values proper for your monitor. The there should me a minimum and maximum refresh value
[05:09] <sdubois92> Yeah, I jjst started with Linux last week
[05:09] <c0nfidencal> hm
[05:09] <c0nfidencal> gonna try
[05:09] <c0nfidencal> thanks mate
[05:09] <sdubois92> So far i like it, but I still like Mac more
[05:09] <earthen> sdubois92,  I haven't really tried Debian
[05:09] <ubuntuer> HorizSync    30.0 - 95.0 But be carefull... My setting may toast your monitor
[05:09] <ubuntuer> Debian is the best distro...
[05:10] <c0nfidencal> ubuntuer ^^
[05:10] <boink> "the best" ?
[05:10] <c0nfidencal> what monitor do u have?
[05:10] <boink> it's a good one
[05:10] <Intelligitimate> Are there any good freeware Spanish language learning software for Linux?
[05:10] <ubuntuer> A 19' 5 year old AOC CRT monitor that isn't the best thing since sliced bread but it still works so I keep it...
[05:11] <c0nfidencal> :)
[05:11] <Dr_willis> define 'best'
[05:11] <jbroome> how did you fit a 19 foot monitor in your house?
[05:11] <boink> with a crane, silly
[05:11] <sdubois92> haha
[05:11] <sdubois92> I got a 13" monitor
[05:11] <sdubois92> haha
[05:11] <jbroome> build the house around the monitor.
[05:11] <sdubois92> That 19 footer will probably give you cancer
[05:12] <ubuntuer> @Dr_willis: Well peanut butter and sliced bread is the best thing since sliced bread...
[05:12] <Samuli^> c0nfidencal, look to be ok to me.
[05:12] <c0nfidencal> ;/
[05:12] <jbroome> but it does keep the house warm in the winter
[05:12] <Dr_willis> ubuntuer,  how about 'toast' isent that better then sliced bread?
[05:12] <Samuli^> c0nfidencal, that's a lcd monitor?
[05:12] <[BTF] Chm0d> i have a file *.tar.gz on my desktop that I want to extract to a folder how do i do that in the terminal?
[05:12] <c0nfidencal> nop
[05:12] <c0nfidencal> its crappy
[05:12] <c0nfidencal> 17" crt monitor
[05:12] <boink> tar zxvf blah.tar.gz
[05:12] <ubuntuer> No... toast is the best thing since peanut butter and sliced bread
[05:12] <Samuli^> c0nfidencal, k.
[05:13] <sdubois92> most linux users have shitty PCs and shitty monitors
[05:13] <cherubiel> [BTF] Chm0d: tar zx file.tar.gz
[05:13] <[BTF] Chm0d> ty
[05:13] <sdubois92> haha
[05:13] <sdubois92> cuz were all poor
[05:13] <Discipulus> [BTF] Chm0d, tar -xvzf file.tar.gz
[05:13] <xopher> How can I generate the defoma fonts for X11 ?
[05:13] <ubuntuer> @sdubois92: I live in a cinema...
[05:13] <Intelligitimate> Is there any good freeware Spanish language learning software for Linux?
[05:14] <[BTF] Chm0d> hmm i get a not found in archive error
[05:14] <c0nfidencal> ubuntuer,
[05:14] <c0nfidencal> found it!
[05:14] <c0nfidencal> Czst.odchyl.poziom. 30kHz-71kHz
[05:14] <c0nfidencal> Czst.odchyl.pionow. 50Hz-160Hz
[05:14] <jbroome> Intelligitimate: not that i know of
[05:14] <c0nfidencal> but i dont know which is
[05:14] <jbroome> but keep asking, maybe some will appear
[05:14] <ubuntuer> sdubois are you a linux user or you have a good pc and montor?
[05:14] <c0nfidencal> horizontal and vertical
[05:14] <cherubiel> Intelligitimate: sourceforge.net/projects/pythonol/
[05:14] <c0nfidencal> i dont read polish :P
[05:15] <boink> google can
[05:15] <Samuli^> c0nfidencal, 30-71khz is of course the horizsync
[05:15] <Intelligitimate> Thank you very much, cherubiel.
[05:15] <c0nfidencal> good, thanks
[05:15] <[BTF] Chm0d> is there a way I can do this in the gui?
[05:15] <ubuntuer> Well the vert refresh is propably the 50-160 but google to be certain...
[05:16] <c0nfidencal> so it should be
[05:16] <c0nfidencal> 	HorizSync	30-71
[05:16] <c0nfidencal> 	VertRefresh	50-160
[05:16] <c0nfidencal> ?
[05:17] <Samuli^> c0nfidencal, you could run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and manually put those when it asks you for monitor data.
[05:17] <c0nfidencal> ehh
[05:17] <c0nfidencal> i already did
[05:17] <c0nfidencal> with gedit ^^
[05:17] <Intelligitimate> Can I get this software via the Synaptic Package Manager, cherubiel?
[05:17] <ubuntuer> I would write like that 30.0 - 71.0 but I guess is doenst matter
[05:17] <c0nfidencal> lemme try to save, restart x
[05:17] <c0nfidencal> ah.. ok
[05:17] <ubuntuer> no don't run dpkg-reconfigure. You will drawn in a flood of questions...
[05:17] <Samuli^> c0nfidencal, yeah, but you can't be sure about the format like that.
[05:17] <Mikel0> cant find a driver for my printer!!
[05:17] <c0nfidencal> ok
[05:17] <c0nfidencal> brb
[05:18] <cherubiel> Intelligitimate: doesn't seem to be in the repos, you'll need to download it and install manually.
[05:18] <ubuntuer> drown...
[05:18] <Samuli^> ubuntuer, you could just press enter until you you come up with the monitor questions. I'm not a big fan of manually editing something you're uncertain of.
[05:19] <subpar> Samuli^: but that's half the fun!
[05:19] <ubuntuer> Well that's linux right? sooner or later you will edit a text file. That's the unix way...
[05:19] <gizmo_the_great1> how do I calibrate my screen to match my printer?
[05:19] <tuxtux> reboot
[05:20] <Samuli^> ubuntuer, yeah, but better to do it when you know what you're doing, right?
[05:20] <jackster> how do you prnounce Gnome? Like a garden gnome or like a genome?
[05:20] <ubuntuer> Of course.. But if you alway rely on config utils you will learn nothing. Better reboot to windows then...
[05:20] <lupine_85> nome
[05:21] <lupine_85> silent g
[05:21] <Intelligitimate> cherubiel, do I need to compile this myself?
[05:22] <Samuli^> ubuntuer, you should've teach how to edit that file with vi, nano or better yet with sed, then :)
[05:22] <cherubiel> Intelligitimate: the source is available along with rpms, you could use alien to convert it into a .deb and use dpkg to install the .deb.
[05:22] <gizmo_the_great1> how do I calibrate my screen to match my printer?
[05:23] <ubuntuer> gizmo_the_great1: buy a mac! sorry I couldn't resist
[05:23] <c0nfidencal> hey again
[05:23] <c0nfidencal> :D
[05:23] <writingdesk> Just to repeat: current update to dapper amd64 kernel-image (2.6.15-27) will cause bittorrent (or java more likely) to lock up entire system (bug reported).  I am looking for someone to verify this.
[05:23] <c0nfidencal> now it works 1280x768@85
[05:23] <c0nfidencal> but it has
[05:23] <c0nfidencal> http://i10.tinypic.com/30beqe1.png
[05:23] <c0nfidencal> ehm.
[05:23] <gizmo_the_great1> ubuntuer: lol
[05:23] <ubuntuer> @Samuli^: Real men use a magnet and not sissy editors like ed!!! :-P
[05:23] <c0nfidencal> 2x 1280x768
[05:23] <c0nfidencal> why's that?
[05:23] <c0nfidencal> :o
[05:24] <writingdesk> ubuntuer:  I use my magnetic personality to edit
[05:24] <mike_> what tools are there for repairing a corrupt drive?
[05:24] <c0nfidencal> ah, nvm
[05:24] <c0nfidencal> found the problem ;))))
[05:24] <c0nfidencal> brb
[05:25] <ubuntuer> cOnfidencal does your monitor work fine now?
[05:25] <awnjoor> can anybody help me setting up ltsp on edubuntu
[05:26] <Samuli^> ubuntuer, I was talking about sed not ed.
[05:26] <ubuntuer> Boy I want to try ltsp some day...
[05:27] <ubuntuer> still a magnet owns all the editors, even a stream editor...
[05:27] <c0nfidencal> everythings fine
[05:27] <c0nfidencal> thx to all who helpt ;))
[05:27] <ubuntuer> :)
[05:28] <Byan> someone want to help me with compiling something, when I do make, it says no makefile can be found...
[05:28] <ubuntuer> see it's not bad to edit a config file...
[05:28] <c0nfidencal> :)))))
[05:28] <awnjoor> i ran the ltspadmin, chose the install/update ltsp packages, but i kept on getting this error "Retrieving list of packages from file:///mnt/ltsp/...URI/file.pm did not return a true value at (eval 4) line 3."
[05:28] <ubuntuer> Byan run ./configure
[05:28] <c0nfidencal> btw. what does "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" do? :) it changes "nv" to "nvidia" in xorg.conf.. or what?
[05:28] <ubuntuer> ??
[05:28] <Byan> ubuntuer: already did
[05:29] <Samuli^> c0nfidencal, probably that.
[05:29] <c0nfidencal> :)
[05:29] <ubuntuer> don't know...
[05:29] <c0nfidencal> guess so :p
[05:29] <Samuli^> c0nfidencal, maybe adds few config-lines too.. and checks if necessary modules are loaded.
[05:29] <tyler_d> ac97 audio, I would like to change the output so that I have my front/back from the rear?
[05:30] <Byan> ubuntuer: wait, nvm, ./configure failed
[05:30] <c0nfidencal> Samuli^, maybe :) but i just run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg after driver install..
[05:30] <ubuntuer> Byan. told you!...
[05:30] <wulei> hello, can someone help me install compiz on ubuntu dapper?
[05:30] <Mortice> !xgl
[05:31] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:31] <Rookie-> !dc++
[05:31] <ubotu> dc: The GNU dc arbitrary precision reverse-polish calculator. In component main, is optional. Version 1.06-19ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 56 kB, installed size 200 kB
[05:32] <c0nfidencal> what does compiz doo? :p
[05:32] <c0nfidencal> ah, "fucks" windows
[05:32] <c0nfidencal> :D
[05:32] <Samuli^> compiz <3
[05:32] <c0nfidencal> :P
[05:33] <gnomefreak> c0nfidencal: please watch your language
[05:33] <c0nfidencal> :$
[05:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !language > confidencal
[05:33] <ubuntuer> c0nfidencal>	it adds kewl wobbly windows.... right know it's more a problem unless you are a developer...
[05:33] <Mikel0> !print
[05:33] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:33] <c0nfidencal> :)
[05:33] <c0nfidencal> ok, g2g
[05:33] <c0nfidencal> bye
[05:34] <ubuntuer> language!!?? Are you serious? What's up with the kindergarden teacher mentality?
[05:34] <ubuntuer> :)
[05:34] <gnomefreak> ubuntuer: this is not an adult channel we do get kids under 12 in here
[05:35] <veleno> hello. i have this line in  my /etc/fstab: /dev/sdb1       /mnt/usbdisk    ext3    user,noauto     0       0. i can mount that device, but it's not writable. any idea ?
[05:35] <ubuntuer> of course but you must be coming from Mars if you thing that 12 year olds don't watch TV or go to cinema...
[05:36] <ubuntuer> sorry for being rude but I am trying to be a pragmatist
[05:36] <gnomefreak> ubuntuer: not the point. we are not keeping you here if you cant follow the rules. i suggest you read the coc and the guidelines
[05:36] <ubuntuer> where is the coc?
[05:36] <gnomefreak> !coc
[05:36] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[05:36] <gnomefreak> !rules
[05:36] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:36] <Mortice> ubuntuer: the pragmatic thing to do would be to follow the rules unless there's a good reason not to, surely?
[05:36] <writingdesk> ubuntuer:  I'm a father, and if my son was going into chats where people were cussing he would not be permitted back, even if it was a linux forum
[05:37] <seraphim> so you gonna to keep him out here from now on?
[05:37] <lupine_85> as in, "Conjugating windows 98! Get Bill Gates in here!!" ;)
[05:38] <Rookie-> No one can keep the children safe all the time, sometime they will do something they are not allowed to - but if we can prevent them from to use bad language just for another day ...
[05:39] <gnomefreak> ok can we please get back on topic
[05:39] <ubuntuer> "I guess I should get back in my little crystall ball where it's safe and all the evil persons are out"
[05:40] <ubuntuer> yes I am getting back on topic.
[05:41] <Intelligitimate> I can't seem to get Pythonol to install. I don't have much experience compiling programs. What do I do?
[05:41] <Samuli^> ubuntuer, what do you mean it's more of a problem? Compiz works great for me and I imagine just as good with 7600GT (I have 7600GS)
[05:42] <ubuntuer> Well it works for me too. But I find metacity more productive. Just personal opinion. With compiz windows don't roll up which I really like...
[05:42] <Mortice> !xgl
[05:42] <Rookie-> !apt
[05:42] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:42] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:43] <Intelligitimate> There is a file called makefile and another called INSTALL-ME.sh, trying to run that one in a terminal window causes errors.
[05:43] <Samuli^> ubuntuer, as you know compiz is really configurable, so I don't think metacity has any edge over it.
[05:43] <boink> !build-essentials
[05:43] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:44] <ubuntuer> oh and xgl is experimental and a hack. I am waiting for AIGLX.. Then compiz and metacity will be better
[05:44] <Samuli^> ubuntuer, why would metacity be any better?
[05:44] <jUggERNAUt1980> g'nite all!  :)
[05:45] <Rookie-> with apt-get, is it possible to exclude some packages when running upgrade ?
[05:45] <ubuntuer> By reading 2.16 gnome release notes I read it supports compositing when compiled correctly. Haven't tried it out but I guess that metacity will be a nice choice
[05:45] <Samuli^> ubuntuer, ok, cool.
[05:46] <Samuli^> composite in gnome 2.14 is a joke.
[05:46] <Samuli^> but hopefully that'll be lots better.
[05:46] <Lattyware> Hey all.
[05:47] <Lattyware> Could anyone tell me how I could move files based upon thier filename?
[05:47] <hondje> depends on what the file names look like
[05:47] <bbrazil> Lattyware: what are you trying to do?
[05:47] <lupine_85> mv <source-filename-pattern> <dest>
[05:47] <ubuntuer> Oh and binary drivers suck. Damn you ATI and nvidia :)
[05:47] <Lattyware> I have a load of MP3s and OGGs mixed up, and I want to move all of the MP3s away to a seperate area.
[05:47] <hondje> mv *mp3 /path/to/new/place
[05:47] <Lattyware> I had to convert all of my music to MP3 to get it on my 360 :/
[05:48] <Lattyware> thanks
[05:48] <Rookie-> mv *.mp3 /new/destination
[05:48] <Lattyware> Will that work recursivly?
[05:48] <lupine_85> mv -r will
[05:48] <Lattyware> ok, thanks.
[05:48] <lupine_85> (or is it mv -R?)
[05:48] <Subhuman> -R
[05:48] <Rookie-> its -R
[05:48] <hanno> hi, can anyone tell me which format .tr-files are (the ones used for isolinux on ubuntu-installcds)
[05:48] <lupine_85> it might copy them all into the same dest, though
[05:48] <hanno> and how I can edit them?
[05:48] <hondje> I don't think GNU mv has -R
[05:49] <lupine_85> http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/snapshot1.png :)
[05:49] <ladydoor> bbrazil: a nonrecursive one wouldn't move dirs
[05:49] <lupine_85> it'll grab all the files matching the pattern - recursively - and stick them all in the same destination
[05:49] <lupine_85> it's a bit much to ask it to recreate the dir structure as well ;)
[05:49] <ubuntuer> agree with bbrazil. Are you sure lupine_85...???
[05:50] <bbrazil> lupine_85: directories are files
[05:50] <hondje> mv: invalid option -- R :)
[05:50] <hondje> so yeah, gnu mv doesn't have -R
[05:50] <Lattyware> heh
[05:50] <poningru> thats teh such
[05:50] <lupine_85> ... but recursive goes into each directory and selects all the files matching the pattern
[05:50] <lupine_85> it doesn't look at the directories themselves
[05:50] <ubuntuer> And if some files have the same names? Tough luck!! Use a less 1337 OS. hmmm???
[05:51] <lupine_85> no, just hack a quick shell script to do the hard work ;)
[05:51] <Lattyware> Yeah, I just found that out... What should I do then? (I don't need them sorted into folders, they can be junked together.)
[05:51] <lupine_85> if they have the same name, then they should be the same song?
[05:51] <bbrazil> lupine_85: find -name '*/'
[05:51] <ubuntuer> I am not talking about songs. I am talkning about files...
[05:52] <Lattyware> Basically, I currently have a load of OGGs and MP3s, in directories for artists and albums, I need to move the MP3s (with or without file structure, doesn't matter which), to another location.
[05:52] <bbrazil> bah
[05:52] <lupine_85> lattyware is though :)
[05:52] <lupine_85> maybe use mp3rename first (assuming they have sane id3 tags)
[05:52] <ladydoor> lupine_85: do you know of a good ogg tag editor for the console, too?
[05:53] <bbrazil> find -name '*.mp3' -exec mv {} /path/to/dir/ \;
[05:53] <ubuntuer> I would wan't to see him lose any files...
[05:53] <bbrazil> *mv -i
[05:53] <luckyone> anyone know a good frontend application for converting WMA to MP3?
[05:53] <lupine_85> !id3tool
[05:53] <ubotu> id3tool: A command line editor for id3 tags.. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-1 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 72 kB
[05:53] <niruana> lo, how do i exit a manual ? :s
[05:53] <lupine_85> q
[05:53] <Laney> q
[05:53] <niruana> in terminal
[05:53] <ubuntuer> press q as in quit
[05:53] <ladydoor> niruana: q
[05:53] <niruana> doh :p
[05:54] <niruana> thx
[05:54] <niruana> and how can i find a file?
[05:54] <DJGummikuh> search for it
[05:54] <ubuntuer> Or write quit then delete the uit from the terminal :)
[05:54] <niruana> in the terminal
[05:54] <ladydoor> lupine_85: thanks
[05:54] <Rookie-> !aptitude
[05:54] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[05:54] <DJGummikuh> niruana: find
[05:54] <lupine_85> or slocate :)
[05:54] <lupine_85> (slocate is faster, but won't find files recently created)
[05:55] <Lattyware> OK... So what is the final reccomended course of action for me then?
[05:55] <hondje> using -exec with find is usually pretty inefficient compared to piping to xargs
[05:55] <niruana> DJGummikuh:  i need to find for example testpage.php on my HD
[05:56] <niruana> so no directory
[05:56] <hondje> say he has 500 mp3s, you're going to fork and mv 500 times
[05:56] <ubuntuer> I don't you just use the Search for files... It's gui so no messing around with terminal if you don't want to
[05:58] <dazzzzed> what prog should i use to burn an .iso?
[05:58] <Lattyware> I have an idea, Could I just copy the directory of music, then delete all of the oggs in one, and all the MP3s in the other?
[05:58] <Lattyware> and would that be simpler.
[05:58] <ladydoor> ubuntuer:  because it's annoying to try to give directions for complicated guis instead of saying "do this:  locate filename"
[05:59] <hondje> Sure, with something along the lines of find dir -name "*ogg" -print | xargs rm
[05:59] <drcode> hi all
[05:59] <pulver> dazzzzed, theres a lot of apps for that, k3b maybe?
[05:59] <drcode> any one know good bittorent console for linux that has all futres like utorrent
[05:59] <drcode> ktorrent
[06:00] <Lattyware> drcode, I just use uTorrent under wine.
[06:00] <Lattyware> I find it's the best.
[06:00] <drcode> I need console
[06:00] <dazzzzed> ok tnx
[06:00] <Lattyware> ah
[06:00] <Lattyware> right
[06:00] <Megaqwerty> when does edgy eft come out?
[06:00] <dorto> I am planning to buy a laptop. Does ubuntu support GeForce Go 7900GS
[06:00] <sorush20> !hdparm
[06:00] <drcode> I dont have gui there
[06:00] <ubotu> hdparm: tune hard disk parameters for high performance. In component main, is standard. Version 6.3-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 56 kB, installed size 232 kB
[06:00] <dorto> graphics card?
[06:01] <sorush20> how do I restart hdparm please?
[06:01] <drcode> I use ubuntu breezy
[06:01] <Subhuman> dorto, yeah it will
[06:01] <hondje> sorush20: hdparm doesn't run constantly, just once
[06:01] <Megaqwerty> does anyone know?
[06:01] <niruana> how do i find a file like testpage.php on my harddrive??
[06:01] <DJGummikuh> why can't you install skype with synaptics?
[06:01] <hondje> Megaqwerty: Oct
[06:02] <Megaqwerty> sweet thank
[06:02] <lupine_85> find / -name testpage.php
[06:02] <Megaqwerty> *thanks
[06:02] <lupine_85> or slocate testpage.php
[06:02] <dorto> Subhuman, are you sure? can I go ahead and buy the laptop?
[06:02] <lupine_85> either one will give pipeable outpu
[06:02] <lupine_85> t*
[06:02] <boink> DJGummikuh: because Skype is commericial software
[06:02] <xanatos_> hi
[06:02] <DJGummikuh> boink: ... so?
[06:02] <boink> yes, so
[06:02] <hondje> DJGummikuh: Because it's a proprietary application whose license does not permit it
[06:02] <Subhuman> dorto, all nvidia cards are supported in linux well.
[06:02] <DJGummikuh> hmm... well gentoo sure has it in their portage
[06:03] <dorto> Subhuman, oh, k. thanks :)
[06:03] <boink> and ubuntu doesn't
[06:03] <lupine_85> gentoo has a different legal status
[06:03] <DJGummikuh> and I don't believe they do stuff against the law
[06:03] <lupine_85> they use ebuilds
[06:03] <hondje> What lupine_85
[06:03] <hondje> said
[06:03] <boink> FreeBSD has it in its port system too
[06:03] <lupine_85> ebuild != package
[06:03] <Jack_Sparrow> dorto: You cant go wrong with ncvidia for use with Ubuntu
[06:03] <dorto> I see
[06:03] <boink> and ubuntu doesn't want any law suits
[06:03] <hondje> What Gentoo or *BSD do is irrelevent, because they're not Ubuntu
[06:03] <niruana> how do i find a file like testpage.php on my harddrive?
[06:03] <lupine_85> *sigh*
[06:03] <lupine_85> niruana: read up
[06:04] <boink> realplayer is in the ubuntu system, since ubuntu and realplayer agreed to that
[06:04] <lupine_85> I just gave you two solutions
[06:04] <Subhuman> DJGummikuh, if you really want skype in repos, add the PLF repos and skype is in there.
[06:04] <DJGummikuh> plf?
[06:04] <boink> !skype
[06:04] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[06:04] <rancorus> hi, is there any way i can partition my computer and install window  if i am using ubuntu only ?
[06:04] <Subhuman> !plf
[06:04] <lupine_85> !PLF
[06:04] <ubotu> plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[06:04] <pulver> how do i run nm-applet in windowmaker?
[06:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Skype is in the repos...
[06:04] <boink> it's easy to install, just add it to your sources.list
[06:04] <Subhuman> i prefer SIP voip anyway
[06:04] <lupine_85> indeed :)
[06:05] <dorto> what is the best way to conduct voice based meetings over internet on Ubuntu os?
[06:05] <lupine_85> ekiga conference call?
[06:05] <lupine_85> gnomemeeting?
[06:05] <boink> can skype do that? dunno ..
[06:05] <lupine_85> lots of ways
[06:06] <Lattyware> hondje:  How should I get 'find dir -name "*ogg" -print | xargs rm' to work with filenames that include spaces?
[06:07] <hondje> hrm, maybe find dir -name "*ogg" -print0 | xargs --null rm
[06:07] <rancorus> hi, is there any way i can partition my computer and install window  if i am using ubuntu only ?
[06:07] <ladydoor> !windows
[06:07] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[06:07] <gneral> hi
[06:07] <boink> heh :)
[06:07] <cpw> I tried the nearest mental health institute, but they refused me at the door
[06:07] <pulver> lol
[06:08] <Lattyware> hondje:  Great! It worked, thank you very much.
[06:08] <Lattyware> And thanks to the others who helped me.
[06:08] <hondje> Lattyware: Good, I was wondering if that was enough to make it not care about spaces :)
[06:08] <Lattyware> heh
[06:08] <rancorus> !windows
[06:08] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[06:08] <cpw> another option is to use -exec
[06:09] <cpw> with find.. but you can't shove as many files as possible like you can with xargs
[06:09] <cpw> but you can ensure proper quoting!
[06:09] <Farrier> Having a conflict between the hal daemon and acpid - lsof /proc/acpi/event reports that hald has a permanent lock on that socket, so kacpid can't start. This WAS a bug (http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-closed@lists.debian.org/msg87221.html), fixed in hal0.5.7.1-2 - I'm running hal0.5.7.1ubuntu18, which is a later version... right
[06:09] <drcode> any idea about torrent client for console?
[06:10] <Lattyware> drcode:  rTorrent?
[06:10] <Intelligitimate> I am having no luck installing Pythonol.
[06:10] <bbrazil> drcode: rtorrent
[06:10] <drcode> yes
[06:10] <gizmo_the_great1> how do I calibrate my screen to match my printer?
[06:10] <drcode> but I use breezy
[06:10] <drcode> rtorrent work only on drapper
[06:10] <boink> you could upgrade to dapper
[06:10] <Farrier> Not sure if 0.5.7.1ubuntu18 IS a later version than 0.5.7.1-2 - am I right about that, or just confused?
[06:10] <drcode> I wanted to use rtorrent
[06:11] <drcode> hmm
[06:11] <ladydoor> drcode: upgrade?
[06:11] <drcode> Its very old pc
[06:11] <drcode> I don;t know if it work good with drapper
[06:11] <boink> does it work well on breezy?
[06:11] <ladydoor> drcode: you might check out bittornado, it works very well for me
[06:11] <cpw> define "old"
[06:11] <drcode> yes
[06:11] <cpw> what's the processor speed?
[06:11] <boink> it should work well with dapper too
[06:11] <drcode> bittornado is for console?
[06:11] <surface-> bittornado is console torrent?
[06:11] <boink> using gnome/kde on it? they take a lot of resources
[06:11] <ladydoor> drcode: and it has a console mode that looks nice too, and which obviously takes up less memory than its gui version.
[06:12] <ladydoor> drcode: *and is, of course, easier to use by nature of being a console tool
[06:12] <cpw> I'm running gnome drapper on an 875mhz with about 300 something MB of physical ram
[06:12] <cpw> works just great
[06:12] <lupine_85> Farrier: it's like comparing apples and oranges
[06:12] <drcode> where can I download bittrondo console?
[06:12] <ladydoor> !bittornado
[06:12] <lupine_85> the second one doesn't seem to be a ubuntu version format
[06:12] <ubotu> bittornado: bittorrent client with enhanced curses interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.13-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 151 kB, installed size 848 kB
[06:12] <kovan> if i apt-get remove --purge something, will all files get removed? even if I modified some of them??
[06:12] <ladydoor> drcode: so sudo aptitude install bittornado
[06:13] <drcode> k
[06:13] <drcode> thanx
[06:13] <surface-> apt-get install bittornado
[06:13] <Subhuman> kovan, yes
[06:13] <kovan> ok
[06:13] <Farrier> lupine_85: So how do I tell whether the ubuntu version has that patch in or not? And if it does not, how do I install the patch?
[06:13] <Mikel0> cant find a driver for my xerox printer!!
[06:14] <lupine_85> Farrier: it's a bit of a meaningless question for the binary packages
[06:14] <lupine_85> check the source, I guess
[06:14] <Farrier> Or is either acpi or hald optional and removable, so I can prevent the conflict?
[06:14] <gneral> hi
[06:14] <TheBlue> Can anyone help me set up a tftp server on Dapper?
[06:14] <Farrier> lupine_85: I was kindof hoping there'd be a changelog somewhere.
[06:15] <spjuden> Gentoo user trying out Ubuntu, never played with "easy" linux distro. Installed Dapper 6.06, can't seem to find mplayer package anywhere. any assistance?
[06:15] <lupine_85> there might be. In the source package
[06:15] <gneral> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 5 not upgraded. -> how to change  1 to remove  to 0 to remove ?
[06:15] <stefg> !info mplayer
[06:15] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[06:15] <cpw> spjuden: you have to enable unsupported software iirc
[06:15] <lupine_85> might be in the binary package as well, but I wouldn't have though so
[06:15] <boink> !tell spjuden about mplayer
[06:15] <stefg> !repos > spjuden
[06:15] <Intelligitimate> I need help getting Pythonol installed.
[06:15] <gneral> !info apt-get remove
[06:15] <ubotu> Package apt-get does not exist in dapper
[06:16] <boink> heh ?
[06:16] <cpw> lmao
[06:16] <cpw> good one
[06:16] <gneral> !info apt-get
[06:16] <ubotu> Package apt-get does not exist in any distro I know
[06:16] <woodgrain> Hi, does dapper support SATA hdisks?
[06:16] <boink> sure
[06:16] <jbroome> woodgrain: yes
[06:16] <Mehercle> !info apt
[06:16] <niruana> how do i see in what directory i am?
[06:16] <ubotu> apt: Advanced front-end for dpkg. In component main, is important. Version 0.6.43.3ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1255 kB, installed size 3904 kB
[06:16] <Farrier> !info automatix
[06:16] <stefg> wood intheory ...
[06:16] <pradeep_> q: how can i check what version of gtk is installed ?
[06:16] <spjuden> hmm.. thanks guys, ill take a look at this info
[06:16] <ubotu> Package automatix does not exist in any distro I know
[06:16] <Subhuman> !apt
[06:16] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:16] <stefg> woodgrain: in theory ...
[06:16] <boink> it's easy to install, spjuden
[06:16] <woodgrain> jbroome, anything i should keep in mind for a fresh install.
[06:16] <Subhuman> gneral, to learn about apt., type "man apt-get" in the terminal
[06:16] <jbroome> nope, just install
[06:17] <niruana> How do i see in what directory i am in the terminal?
[06:17] <boink> ubuntu is less pain to get up and running than Gentoo
[06:17] <woodgrain> stefg, what do you mean ... what kind of snags should I anticipate?
[06:17] <jbroome> pwd
[06:17] <niruana> thx jbroome
[06:17] <ladydoor> niruana: pwd
[06:17] <stefg> woodgrain: silicon image adapters and other fancy stuff tends toward touble-making
[06:18] <Farrier> spjuden: Automatix (qv Google) makes stuff like that easier to install too - allegedly. Personally, I think its gui is a bit pants.
[06:18] <Jack_Sparrow> automatic is the worst thing you can do to your ubuntu install
[06:18] <Jack_Sparrow> x
[06:18] <jbroome> !autamatix
[06:18] <jbroome> shit
[06:18] <Subhuman> easyubuntu is nicer.
[06:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autamatix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:19] <jbroome> !automatix
[06:19] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[06:19] <Subhuman> doesnt use --force
[06:19] <Subhuman> !easyubuntu
[06:19] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[06:19] <lupine_85> --force-feed
[06:19] <Mikel0> !cups
[06:19] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Mikel0: Check your printer, many of those have an HP emulation mode
[06:20] <woodgrain> stefg, thanks.  How many sata drivers are included in dapper?
[06:21] <gizmo_the_great1> how do I calibrate my screen to match my printer?
[06:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Mikel0: the m750 for example can use the PCS2355  driver
[06:21] <XiXaQ> gizmo_the_great1, what do you mean by that?
[06:21] <stefg> woodgrain: dapper comes on CD if you order it at ShipIt, or on 100% recycled photons by download through the wire... I don't know if there's vendors which ship it on sata drives :-D
[06:22] <mluser-laptop> Anyone know the name of the program that I can use to change the volume/label name on a vfat partition?
[06:22] <haidozo> stefg: those would be electrons
[06:22] <XiXaQ> stefg, he asked for drivers, not drives.
[06:22] <Sakireth> Hey. For an ATI Radeon 9200, is it worth it to install fglrx? I mean, the default drivers aren't really speedy.. but the guide says it's for 9500 and up.
[06:22] <stefg> !hardware
[06:22] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:22] <gizmo_the_great1> XiXaQ: Basically, what I see on the screen (colour, contrast etc) does not appaear to match what is printed out. So it's difficult for me to know when a photo or something has been tweaked and suitable to print.
[06:23] <XiXaQ> haidozo, unless he uses a fiberoptic wire.
[06:23] <stefg> haidozo: thanks for the clarification :-)
[06:24] <ikonia> Chaps, could someone offer some advice on gimp/printing. I've got my printer setup and working, everytime I try to print an image of a DVD cover the image that should take up the whole page is printed not centered eg: about a inch of white before the printing starts, then prints off the page (as it runs out of paper as its about an inch off centered)
[06:24] <Jack_Sparrow> gizmo_the_great1: does you monitor ahve any control on it?
[06:24] <Sakireth> Anyone?
[06:25] <Rookie-> !ati
[06:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:25] <XiXaQ> Sakireth, I did that a while ago. I had some problems with it, but once I got it up and running, it was worth the effort.
[06:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Sakireth: I dont know that it would work..
[06:25] <spjuden> I think I must be missing something. I had already uncommented both multiverse repos (bin and src), apt-get update, apt-cache search mplayer, all I get is kmplayer and a few related, mozilla-mplayer plugin, and a few totally unrelated
[06:25] <Sakireth> XiXaQ: For that card?
[06:25] <Rookie-> i have nvidia and i made some justments after the guide and i got 4 times better fps
[06:25] <XiXaQ> Sakireth, radeon 9200 se.
[06:25] <stefg> !info mplayer
[06:25] <Sakireth> XiXaQ: Ok ^^
[06:25] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[06:26] <Jack_Sparrow> XiXaQ: same model ati?
[06:26] <Sakireth> Rookie-: Gee.. isn't that great? *spews out garbage*
[06:26] <boink> mplayer must be a FAQ ... people ask so often about it
[06:26] <corvus> bonjour
[06:26] <XiXaQ> Jack_Sparrow, what do you mean?
[06:26] <corvus> svp, il y a quel logiciel pour lire le php sous linux ?
[06:26] <stefg> spjuden: it's there... paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ if you want people to check it
[06:27] <boink> corvus: on parle l'anglais ici
[06:27] <boink> !fr
[06:27] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:27] <Jack_Sparrow> XiXaQ: Wanted to know which card you installex fglrx on
[06:27] <corvus> ok
[06:27] <corvus> dsl
[06:27] <corvus> ya quoi comme serveur fr stp ?
[06:27] <Farrier> Are acpi or hald optional? Since they conflict on my system, can I uninstall either one without hopelessly breaking things?
[06:27] <boink> !tell corvus about fr
[06:27] <bones> hi
[06:27] <corvus> merci
[06:28] <boink> tu peux demander ici en anglais, si tu veux
[06:28] <XiXaQ> Jack_Sparrow, only know it's an ati radeon 9200 se agp card.
[06:28] <bones> i install alternate.iso how do i get the video card nvidia to work?
[06:28] <Rookie-> !nvidia
[06:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:28] <lupine_85> J'nais pas comprende en francais. #ubuntu-ft
[06:28] <lupine_85> erm, #ubuntu-fr
[06:28] <bones> i generally know how to install the video card but its not working
[06:28] <Sakireth> I finally have my old PC back.
[06:28] <Sakireth> The one that won't become slow in two months ^_^
[06:29] <Jack_Sparrow> XiXaQ: thanks, I tried to install it and when it didnt just work I went on to other things, But knowing you got it to work I will try again.
[06:29] <boink> lupine_85 => je ne comprends pas le franais
[06:29] <cpw> mmm french
[06:29] <lupine_85> "the french" ?
[06:29] <stefg> bones: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable  ... then ctrl-alt-backspace and you're done
[06:30] <XiXaQ> Jack_Sparrow, what's the symptoms?
[06:30] <bones> restricted? what am i under age?
[06:30] <stefg> hehe
[06:30] <spjuden> I discovered my problem.. the comments in /etc/apt/sources.list say to uncomment lines to access the backports multiverse repo. i just uncommented that rather than adding multiverse to the main listing
[06:30] <Jack_Sparrow> XiXaQ: It was awhile back on the wife's machine..
[06:30] <stefg> beer-free vs. speech-free
[06:31] <Jack_Sparrow> gotta run... later people ... play nice
[06:31] <botxj> that man is jonny depp
[06:32] <duckman875> can anyone help me with a sound issue?  i have went through everything in the solution guide in the forums but still does not work?
[06:32] <duckman875> i am using build in nvidia sound
[06:32] <duckman875> snd-intel8x0
[06:33] <Ash-Fox> Would anyone happen to know of a decent webbased management system for general servers (Since I'm helping a friend setup a server, who has little knowledge on Linux)?
[06:33] <stefg> duckman what does your lsmod tell you?
[06:33] <duckman875> it is in lsmod
[06:33] <duckman875> snd_intel8x0
[06:33] <duckman875> ac97
[06:34] <duckman875> so on...
[06:34] <botxj> ewww, ac97, very sucky
[06:34] <lupine_85> does aplay -l show it?
[06:34] <Zolace> Question: In GAIM, what is the shortcut to swap between conversation tabs?
[06:34] <duckman875> yes
[06:34] <Zolace> Oops, i meant in XChat
[06:34] <bones> stefg: says its already the newest version
[06:34] <botxj> Zolace there is no shortcut
[06:34] <bones> no gpm?
[06:34] <lupine_85> ok.... so presumably it's an esd/artsd problem, or volume
[06:34] <pooh_beawr> do you guys have that howto about registering and changing nicks?
[06:34] <Zolace> Dammit
[06:35] <Zolace> Annoying...
[06:35] <ritcey> Ash-Fox: like webmin?
[06:35] <stefg> bones: good!
[06:35] <lupine_85> have you tried killing esd/alsa and trying to play something using just alsa?
[06:35] <lupine_85> erm, esd/artsd
[06:35] <duckman875> lupine_85, no
[06:35] <botxj> Zolace if you have xchat turn on vertical tabs, ti's MUCh more neater and more organized
[06:35] <duckman875> how can i do that?
[06:35] <lupine_85> ubuntu or kubuntu?
[06:35] <duckman875> ub
[06:36] <Sakireth> Okay, so.... I tried to install fglrx, and i get this: http://pastie.caboo.se/14666
[06:36] <Zolace> It is run on vertical tabs, just i dont like using my touchpad, i prefer to swap it with my keyboard like i do on GAIM
[06:36] <Ash-Fox> ritcey, yes. I don't see webmin in the repositories though.
[06:36] <Sakireth> Anyone? Strange error I have NEVER seen before.
[06:36] <lupine_85> ok... "
[06:36] <lupine_85> Goto the menu, system,
[06:36] <lupine_85> preferences, sound and uncheck the checkbox using ESD.
[06:36] <lupine_85> "
[06:36] <duckman875> what is the command to send a constant sound to the device?  i forget
[06:36] <stefg> duckman875: and you checked at least 3 times with alsamixer that your sond isn't simply muted or set to zero volumen, I assume?
[06:36] <ritcey> Ash-Fox: that, I can't help you with - sorry =)
[06:36] <botxj> well, Zolace there probably is a shortcut, but mostly maybe not
[06:37] <Zolace> Ok, ill google it... ty
[06:37] <lupine_85> then load up whatever random player you use, make sure the driver is set to 'alsa' and try to play an ogg or something
[06:37] <Zolace> Another question. My Firefox is REALLY slow at loading pages
[06:37] <Zolace> Any ideas?
[06:37] <duckman875> stefg,  yes they are not muted
[06:37] <boink> how's w3m?
[06:37] <Sakireth> Anyone? :( my pc is uber slow now, because FGLRX does not work..
[06:37] <Zolace> It takes about 2 minutes to find and load google >.<
[06:37] <boink> that's too long
[06:37] <boink> but you have w3m installed too?
[06:37] <stefg> !ipv6
[06:37] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[06:38] <stefg> Zolace: that's for you
[06:38] <bones> unknown symbol in module for the nvidia kernel
[06:38] <Zolace> TY :)
[06:38] <lupine_85> why is there nothing about using ipv6???
[06:38] <Zolace> Ill get there in a few minutes, lol
[06:38] <Sakireth> anyone? :(
[06:38] <cherubiel> Sakireth: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185033
[06:39] <bones> anyone know why it says unknown symbol in module
[06:39] <Sakireth> thanks ;D
[06:39] <bones> for the nvidia module
[06:39] <stefg> bones: kernel version?
[06:39] <bones> the generic amd64
[06:39] <stefg> bones: ahh... 64 bit
[06:40] <bones> upgraded latest from the repo
[06:40] <bones> stefg: i thought its supposed to work
[06:40] <stefg> bones then rather sudo apt-get build-essential, get the driver from nvidia.com and roll you own...
[06:41] <bones> stefg: how do i get gpm installed?
[06:41] <stefg> bones: sudo apt-get install gpm
[06:41] <stefg> !build > bones
[06:42] <squeaks> i'm looking for people's first suggestion for backup system, there are a lot to pick from in the repositories
[06:42] <squeaks> i just need a name or 2
[06:42] <boink> rsnap
[06:42] <boink> sorry .. rsnapshot is an easy one
[06:42] <stefg> !info sbackup
[06:42] <ubotu> sbackup: Simple Backup Suite for desktop use. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-1 (dapper), package size 36 kB, installed size 340 kB
[06:42] <boink> !rsnapshot
[06:42] <ubotu> rsnapshot: local and remote filesystem snapshot utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.1-1.1build1 (dapper), package size 89 kB, installed size 400 kB
[06:42] <stefg> !info partimage
[06:42] <ubotu> partimage: backup partitions into a compressed image file. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-14 (dapper), package size 261 kB, installed size 936 kB
[06:42] <jmoncayo> hey i need some help i cant get links to login in a web page can somebody help me?
[06:42] <Rookie-> !ati
[06:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:43] <duckman875> lupine_85, still no sound.
[06:43] <squeaks> thanks
[06:43] <bones> stefg: gpm isnt there
[06:43] <stefg> !info gpm
[06:43] <ubotu> gpm: General Purpose Mouse Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19.6-21ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 201 kB, installed size 496 kB
[06:43] <stefg> !repos > bones
[06:43] <ravenouswolf> I can boot and get to the graphical login screen, but logging in takes me to a brown screen for up to 20 seconds, then dumps me back to the login screen again with no success. Can anyone shed light on the problem? System is completely updated.
[06:44] <ravenouswolf> I can select *commandline* login mode and successfully log in as 1st user. When from there I 'startx' I am informed something about 'session 0 already active etc, if incorrect remove file /tmp/.X0-lock'. If I then sudo rm /tmp/.X0-lock I can startx, but it appears I am logged in as root.
[06:44] <Megaqwerty> does anyone know how to backup my email, and preferences in thunderbird?
[06:44] <ravenouswolf> Note deleting /tmp/.X0-lock and restarting does not help, so its not a once-off problem. Clearly during the 20-second wait after a default-session login file /tmp/.X0-lock is created but some event ius going awry and dumping me back to login. I had just installed nvidia drivers but xorg.conf is still set to nv.
[06:45] <stefg> ravenouswolf: gnome-prob, not xorg-prob
[06:45] <pip> !ping
[06:45] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[06:45] <cherubiel> ravenouswolf: are you trying to login as root at the gui login?
[06:46] <ravenouswolf> stefg: known prob? how to fix?
[06:46] <FurryNemesis> where do I extract program tarballs to to get them to appear in, say, applications>internet?
[06:47] <ravenouswolf> cherubiel: just trying normal 1st user login...
[06:47] <stefg> ravenouswolf: I wouldn't call it a known problem, sometimes taht happens. But icf you see a brown screen X is already running, but gnome got it's difficulties. Try adding a testuser and see if that one can log in
[06:47] <Sakireth> I installed fglrx but it ran HORRIBLE. I want to get everything back to normal. I tried switching to the 'radeon' driver with a clean X config.. but it sadly doesn't work. Anyone?
[06:47] <Who_> FurryNemesis - you actually have to compile source tarballs
[06:48] <ravenouswolf> stefg: will try now...
[06:48] <Who_> FurryNemesis:  What program are you installing?
[06:48] <tristanmike> Hi, can someone please help, I'm getting really frustrated here. i have a Logitech USB headset and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, I have to keep constantly testing /dev/dsp, /dev/dsp1, /dev/dsp2. I have to test each one, then log out, log in, retest, log out, log in, retest. It "works", and it worked great in Breezy, but now it's constantly changing, can someone help me understand what's going on and try to fix please. Thanx
[06:48] <tristanmike>  in advance.
[06:48] <Megaqwerty> Does anyone know how to backup my thunderbird email?
[06:48] <FurryNemesis> oops
[06:48] <duckman875> lupine_85, any other ideas?
[06:48] <Who_> Can someone help me with adding SUSE and Fedora and another Ubuntu back to GRUB?
[06:48] <FurryNemesis> my bad nomenclature
[06:48] <FurryNemesis> found it anyway thanks
[06:49] <stefg> !grub
[06:49] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:49] <Sakireth> anyone? i'm getting frustrated here.. >_>
[06:49] <cpw> stefg: is there a definitive list of all the ![word]  stuff that ubotu has?
[06:50] <ravenouswolf> stefg: the System-Admin list is only partly populated, I cant access add user from here. Is there a commandline option?
[06:50] <stefg> cpw: yes, ubotu tells it everytime when he does not know a factoid
[06:50] <stefg> !foobar
[06:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about foobar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:50] <stefg> there you have
[06:50] <boink> !sex
[06:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <tristanmike> !botabuse
[06:51] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[06:51] <stefg> boink very funny! looking for a ban?
[06:51] <boink> heh :)
[06:51] <tristanmike> stefg: you can "!search <string>
[06:51] <kaur> i am having a problem with my laptop. When i try to use the fn+f2 combination to switch to an external monitor, the laptop screen divides itself into 4 or 5 and that's it! No way back, but killing X What to do?
[06:51] <tristanmike> stefg: here's a list   https://bot.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:52] <roger_mudd> Sakireth:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:52] <stefg> tristanmike: 100 points for educating the community :-)
[06:52] <roger_mudd> oops... too slow
[06:52] <tristanmike> :-)
[06:52] <bones> stefg: its complaining about my kernel not being good enough to compile the module and that itll have to be recompiled?
[06:52] <bones> stefg: also wants gcc
[06:53] <bones> i thought i installed gcc with build essentials
[06:53] <tristanmike> bones: install "build-essential" to get gcc
[06:53] <stefg> bones: the 64-bit blues.... have you checked if !nvidia points you to a good howto for 64 bit?
[06:53] <kaur> i am having a problem with my laptop. When i try to use the fn+f2 combination to switch to an external monitor, the laptop screen divides itself into 4 or 5 and that's it! No way back, but killing X What to do?
[06:54] <bones> ok thanks i thought i did it already
[06:54] <bones> stefg: do you think amd64 sucks? :>
[06:54] <Sakireth> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". <-- Even though i DO have all "dri" lines inside the X conf... anyone?
[06:54] <olorin> hello ! i would like to install the latest official nvidia drivers ... some wiki recommand to unistall and purge nvidia-glx, linux-restricted-modules ... but i need some restricted driver for the wifi ... is there any solution ?
[06:54] <stefg> bones, most people install 32-bit even on 64bit hardware... now you know why
[06:55] <sethk> olorin, why would you want to uninstall that stuff?
[06:55] <ravenouswolf> stefg: is there some repair facility for gnome? Or at least a comman-line way to try adding a user?
[06:55] <Sakireth> are you all ignoring me or something? :(
[06:55] <stefg> ravenouswolf: adduser test
[06:55] <sethk> olorin, you don't need to sorry about using restricted drivers
[06:55] <stefg> ravenouswolf: sudo adduser test
[06:55] <olorin> sethk, because linux-restricted driver would cause some conflicts
[06:55] <sethk> olorin, with nvidia, you mean?
[06:56] <sethk> olorin, I install the nvidia drivers without using the package manager
[06:56] <sethk> olorin, but a lot of people have problems doing it
[06:56] <jbmigel> Sakireth can you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[06:56] <sethk> olorin, well, not problems, but they can't figure out how.
[06:56] <Sakireth> jbmigel: Sure.
[06:56] <robert_> how do I build php-4.4.2 from the source that I pulled down using apt-get source?
[06:56] <TJ_> still looking around for the best possible killswitch, does anyone know some god way to kill your ubuntu box? best found so far: "sudo kill -9 -1" "sudo rm -rf /etc/fstab" "sudo rm -rf /*"
[06:56] <olorin> sethk, me too ... i always need to rmmod nvidia, modprobe nvidia after each boot
[06:57] <bones> are headers enough to compile this nvidia module?
[06:57] <sethk> olorin, that I've never heard of
[06:57] <olorin> sethk, i suppose linux-restriced driver contains the nvidia driver, so there is two instance of the same driver on the system
[06:57] <sethk> olorin, I'm talking about problems getting it installed, not problems once it is installed.
[06:57] <sethk> olorin, just erase the one you don't want to use
[06:58] <olorin> sethk, no problem getting it installed
[06:58] <sethk> olorin, actually, that isn't even necessary, just make sure the correct one is in /lib/modules
[06:58] <Sakireth> jbmigel: http://pastie.caboo.se/14669
[06:58] <ebel_> el/close
[06:58] <Sakireth> jbmigel: Read the text at the bottom, too.
[06:58] <kaur> i am having a problem with my laptop. When i try to use the fn+f2 combination to switch to an external monitor, the laptop screen divides itself into 4 or 5 and that's it! No way back, no way of choosing between the monitors... but killing X What to do?
[06:58] <olorin> /lib/modules or /usr/lib/xorg/modules ?
[06:58] <Zolace> I did what it said on the link i was given and it really hasnt made that much of a difference
[06:58] <Zolace> (For slow FF)
[06:58] <olorin> sethk, /lib/modules/ or /usr/lib/xorg/modules ?
[06:58] <sethk> olorin, the one related to lsmod is /lib/modules
[06:59] <sethk> olorin, /usr/lib/xorg/modules is a different kind of module altogether
[06:59] <jbmigel> Sakireth you know that ati 9200 is fully supported in xorg 6.9 and up right? you dont need any drivers
[06:59] <sethk> olorin, one's a kernel module, the other is an X module
[06:59] <olorin> sethk, both are used ?
[06:59] <stefg> TJ_: dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/[h|s] da .... takes the partition table and the MBR with it, too :-)
[06:59] <Sakireth> jbmigel: Yeah well how to get rid of the FGLRX junk and switch back to the old stuff now?
[06:59] <Zolace> Anyone? Slow firefox on linux...
[06:59] <kyja> there is a great ascii demmo named bb. however I cant have music and the graphics working at the same time. thus I guess I have some trouble, also how do I set monitor depth??
[06:59] <bones> ok hmm...what repo is the kernel src for this in?
[06:59] <sethk> olorin, I'm not sure exactly what you have in /usr/lib/xorg/modules
[07:00] <TJ_> stefg: very nice
[07:00] <sethk> olorin, but, in general, yes, modules listed in /etc/X11/xorg.conf are used
[07:00] <jaypim> hi all... is there a way to free some space to my / partition ? I've set it at 256MB and I could not install some files I downloaded from software updates because / is almost full.
[07:00] <Zolace> In fact now it's just not working LoL :D
[07:00] <sethk> olorin, and the nvidia kernel module (named nvidia.ko) is also used
[07:00] <jbmigel> Sakireth according to your xorg.conf you arnt using fglrx... your driver is currently set for ATI
[07:00] <sysdoc> bones, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[07:00] <sybec> Hello
[07:01] <Zolace> And another thing, my GAIM keeps telling me that "Message could not be sent because an error with the switchboard occurred"
[07:01] <olorin> sethk, so thx, i will retry this
[07:01] <admin_> i have a major problem, i'm thnking abut redoing my whole laptops linux stuff, so i would reinstall the distro, but my problem is, i cant boot off my cd drive thats in my lappy, its broken, and i got another cd drive yesterday and i duno how to boot off it...pls help
[07:01] <Sakireth> jbmigel: Yes i know. i tried switching bak
[07:01] <bones> thanks
[07:01] <Sakireth> back*
[07:02] <ad_> hey, is junk filtering in evolution just a comedy feature? it doesn't work at all - what's going on?
[07:02] <jbmigel> Sakireth you restarted X after changing it back?
[07:02] <ad_> anyone know about spamassassin with evolution?
[07:02] <Sakireth> jbmigel: Of course.
[07:02] <sysdoc> ad_, lol, comedy feature
[07:02] <Zolace> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[07:02] <sybec> I've just installed Apache (v-1.3) on Ubuntu Linux 6.06. I can open up a browser (i.e. Firefox), push in my IP address and hit enter.. it seems to work. However, two friends reported they can't access the server. /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny are full of comments. Any ideas what the problem might be?
[07:02] <admin_> i have a major problem, i'm thnking abut redoing my whole laptops linux stuff, so i would reinstall the distro, but my problem is, i cant boot off my cd drive thats in my lappy, its broken, and i got another cd drive yesterday and i duno how to boot off it...pls help
[07:02] <ArrenLex> sybec: are you behind a router?
[07:03] <sethk> sybec, first thought is, check whether the external requests are even reaching your server
[07:03] <sybec> nope
[07:03] <letto> can kubuntu 6.06 be used  as a live cd ?
[07:03] <stefg> jaypim: that's tricky... rather rethink your partition layout, backup and restore to the better one
[07:03] <sybec> sethk: How do I do that?
[07:03] <Zolace> My GAIM says.. Message could not be sent because an error with the switchboard occurred --- Any ideas?
[07:03] <boink> isn't there something called "boot manager" ?
[07:03] <ArrenLex> letto: yes
[07:03] <sybec> Same thing happens with OpenSSH Server by the way.
[07:03] <letto> and why are versions 6.06 and 6.06.1 ?
[07:03] <ad_> sysdoc: :) i've got spamassassin installed, spamd is running, setup in evolutionis right - what more can i do?
[07:03] <sethk> sybec, then odds are the requests are never reaching the server
[07:03] <sethk> sybec, since two things are failing
[07:03] <sethk> sybec, you can sniff packets
[07:03] <letto> 6.06.1 is the latest yes?
[07:04] <CarlFK> if I open enough windows (looks like 18) gnome will consolidate like apps on the bottom bar - like all my terminal windows will get one button - is there some way to make that happen all the time?
[07:04] <sethk> sybec, you can also use   netstat -na, look for sockets in TIME_WAIT or CLOSE_WAIT state
[07:04] <stefg> letto: yes
[07:04] <Zolace> .
[07:04] <sethk> sybec, for a failed connection you'll likely see a socket in one of the WAIT states.
[07:04] <letto> ok,  thx ^^
[07:04] <ad_> has anyone got junk filtering working in evolution?
[07:04] <Sakireth> jbmigel: so now what?
[07:04] <sethk> sybec, but sniffing packets is the definitive way to see what is happening.
[07:05] <main2> how do i tell my shell, not to use localisation.. with other words
[07:05] <stefg> ad_: you'll need bogofilter or spamassassin installed
[07:05] <main2> i want my english shell back
[07:05] <sybec> ok, thank you
[07:05] <jaypim> hi all... is there a way to free some space to my / partition ? I've set it at 256MB and I could not install some files I downloaded from software updates because / is almost full.
[07:05] <jbmigel> Sakireth it looks good to me now.  maybe something easy like "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:05] <ad_> stefg: got it man, spamd running, still nothing...?
[07:05] <Sakireth> jbmigel: Yes i tried
[07:05] <Sakireth> jbmigel: I did that and that made the config the way it is now.
[07:05] <Sakireth> i want my direct rendering back!
[07:05] <jbmigel> Sakireth i bet you do
[07:06] <ArrenLex> Sakireth: try using the radeon driver
[07:06] <Zolace> ARGHness
[07:06] <jbmigel> Sakireth when you did fglrx did you use a package or did you build a kernel module yourself/
[07:06] <Sakireth> jbmigel: Package.
[07:07] <jaypim> hi all... is there a way to free some space to my / partition ? I've set it at 256MB and I could not install some files I downloaded from software updates because / is almost full.
[07:07] <jbmigel> Sakireth have you uninstalled the package/
[07:07] <Sakireth> ArrenLex: Tried. doesn't work.
[07:07] <Sakireth> jbmigel: No.
[07:07] <sethk> jaypim, you can use a symbolic link to effectively add space to /
[07:07] <ArrenLex> Sakireth: why?
[07:07] <Sakireth> ArrenLex: Still no direct rendering.
[07:08] <jaypim> sethk: like how do I do that ?
[07:08] <sethk> jaypim, you copy a bunch of files from / to another directory, on a partition with empty space
[07:08] <ArrenLex> Sakireth: what card?
[07:08] <lan3y> Is there a way I can install just one package (and deps of course) from edgy on my dapper system?
[07:08] <sethk> jaypim, then you do an ln -s of that directory to /
[07:08] <Zolace> Help, I need somebody Help, not just anybody Help, you know, I need someone Help...
[07:08] <Sakireth> ArrenLex: Radeon 9200. worked on first install.
[07:08] <jaypim> sethk: thanks
[07:08] <CarlFK> jaypim: or move a dir like /home or /var to it's own partition
[07:08] <Zolace> ... lol
[07:08] <Sakireth> ArrenLex: Then I installed fglrx and overwrote /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 for a fix.
[07:08] <Sakireth> ArrenLex: Could that be it?
[07:08] <ArrenLex> Sakireth: radeon should support that. Can you start x with radeon and then pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[07:08] <mendred> Ian3y: ummm better not..its better if u use the backports
[07:08] <yosyp__> how come my video card thing doens't pass the 3d test? in windows it works, but in ubuntu it uses somekind of Mesa thing...
[07:09] <yosyp__> i need to to be able to do 3d rendering etc.
[07:09] <jaypim> CarlFK: I already have separate partitions for those
[07:09] <ArrenLex> Sakireth: I know fglrx requires a hacked version of libGL.
[07:09] <ArrenLex> stafg: I insatlled woody on 40MB once.
[07:09] <jbmigel> Sakireth you didnt happen to backup your old libGL?
[07:09] <jaypim> CarlFK: it's just that my / started to get filled when I updated from Software Updates
[07:09] <mister_roboto> jaypim: you could always use parted to resize your partitions
[07:09] <CarlFK> jaypim: then pick somethiong you don't have -
[07:09] <Sakireth> jbmigel: No.
[07:09] <Sakireth> jbmigel: Dumb, eh? >_<
[07:10] <jaypim> CarlFK: what files are made on my / when i do software updates ?
[07:10] <Sakireth> AARGH >_<
[07:10] <stefg> ArrenLex: that was in the old day, when our hd's were the size of our RAM today :-)
[07:10] <Zolace> Message could not be sent because an error with the switchboard occurred <--- How to fix this?
[07:10] <CarlFK> jaypim: you can move all your dirs to separate partitions
[07:10] <Sakireth> jbmigel: How to get it back?
[07:10] <jaypim> CarlFK: maybe I could delete those
[07:10] <ArrenLex> Sakireth, it doesn't matter. If it came with the system it's in a package.
[07:10] <CarlFK> jaypim: nothing should be created in /
[07:10] <ArrenLex> Sak: do this:
[07:10] <ArrenLex> Sak: sudo apt-get remove --purge xorg-driver-fglrx
[07:10] <jaypim> CarlFK: I see... but why did my / grew
[07:10] <ad_> does anyone have junk filtering working in evolution? please reply - it's driving me mad
[07:10] <dofiss> jaypim: you can delete downloaded packages using sudo apt-get clean
[07:10] <ArrenLex> Sak: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa
[07:10] <jaypim> ah
[07:10] <jaypim> dofiss: I'll try that
[07:11] <jbmigel> Sakireth Im not really sure, maybe you could borrow a copy from someone else?
[07:11] <mister_roboto> CarlFK: what about /bin stuff? do you have bin in a separate partition too?  adding software grows that
[07:11] <stefg> ad_: plugins in evolution installed an enabled?
[07:11] <ArrenLex> jbmiguel: if it came installed on the system it's available in a package! Just saerch for it in packages.ubuntu.com, second box (file search)
[07:11] <ravenouswolf> stefg: Im back, test login on a brand new user was fine...
[07:11] <Tokenbad> what would this mean?   warning: AVImageFormat is deprecated  when trying to install ffmpeg
[07:11] <CarlFK> mister_roboto: when I say / I don't mean just the root dir,
[07:11] <ArrenLex> jbmiguel: in this case it's the libgl1-mesa package
[07:11] <Renan_s2> adding software grows /usr/bin mostly
[07:11] <Renan_s2> not /bin
[07:11] <jaypim> dofiss: I did apt-get clean and / is still 92%
[07:12] <Sakireth> ArrenLex: Well atl east I don't get that DRI error anymore.. but i DO get "Direct rendering: NO"
[07:12] <ravenouswolf> stefg: so is there a way I can ressurect the login for the 1st user?
[07:12] <stefg> ravenouswolf: that indicates that you've permission-problems or missing or malformed files in your actual user account
[07:12] <ArrenLex> Sakireth: did you install the mesa package, change X to use radeon, and restart X?
[07:12] <Sakireth> i'm gonna try rebooting
[07:12] <Sakireth> ArrenLex: Yes
[07:12] <mister_roboto> CarlFK: ahh, ok      but his problem is he made the / partition too small
[07:12] <Sakireth> robin@robin-desktop:~$ lsmod | grep fglrx
[07:12] <Sakireth> fglrx                 391756  0
[07:12] <Sakireth> agpgart                36784  2 fglrx,via_agp
[07:12] <Sakireth> I think this is the problem.
[07:12] <ArrenLex> Sak: reboot, yes, and then pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:12] <ad_> stefg: yes and ticked in prefs
[07:12] <dofiss> jaypim: that's weird. apt-get clean should delete all downloaded package files
[07:12] <ArrenLex> Sak: yes.
[07:12] <CarlFK> jaypim: you kinda screwed yourself when you tried to out smart the setup wiz :)
[07:13] <mister_roboto> CarlFK: he can jsut resize it with parted
[07:13] <Sakireth> robin@robin-desktop:~$ sudo rmmod fglrx
[07:13] <Sakireth> robin@robin-desktop:~$ sudo modprobe radeon
[07:13] <jaypim> It just get filled after i updated
[07:13] <Sakireth> YAY! that fixed it.
[07:13] <ravenouswolf> stefg: ok, maybe permissions I suspect... something was failing to write on my last successful session. I can change permissions on a single folder, but how do you change permissions recursively? Preferably on command line?
[07:13] <CarlFK> mister_roboto: oh yeah - i'v never done that, so I keep forgetting it can be done
[07:14] <ArrenLex> ravenous, use chmod with the -R switch.
[07:14] <stefg> ravenouswolf: chown -R
[07:14] <botxj> i hate that command chmod
[07:14] <ArrenLex> stafg: that's ownership change.
[07:14] <mister_roboto> CarlFK: it's a great tool, works very well.   but use the gui, gparted or qtparted
[07:14] <botxj> what command let's me set modes of a file with numbers?
[07:14] <dofiss> jaypim: that should have fixed it. it might be that the disk info hasn't been refreshed or that the packages are deleted after a shutdown
[07:14] <mister_roboto> CarlFK: as nice as partition magic
[07:14] <Zolace> Hmm. I just downloaded java for linux but it is a .bin file - how do i use it?
[07:15] <ravenouswolf> stefg: like chown -R /filepath username ?
[07:15] <Renan_s2> !java
[07:15] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:15] <ArrenLex> Zolace: chmod +x <file.bin> && ./file.bin
[07:15] <tom_> help! how to get screen resolution higer than 1024x768
[07:15] <ravenouswolf> stefg: pretty sure I need to enable write for user too
[07:15] <ArrenLex> Renan: his question is not relevant to java
[07:15] <Zolace> ty  archangelpetro
[07:15] <Zolace> No
[07:15] <Zolace> TY ArrenLex
[07:15] <Renan_s2> ArrenLex, OK
[07:15] <ArrenLex> Zolace: prefix that with sudo, sorry.
[07:16] <robert_> blah, is there an apt-source or something I can use to automatically build this php-4.4.2(fcgi)?
[07:16] <stefg> ravenouswolf: it should be safe to run cd /home/foo , sudo chown -R . foo:foo
[07:16] <mister_roboto> ubotu is out of date on that, right?  actually the jdk is in the repository too, not just the jre
[07:16] <Byan> how do you guys recommend I learn how to use IPtables?
[07:17] <robert_> so, do I just run debian/rules, and then make install?
[07:18] <botxj> what command let's me set modes of a file with numbers?
[07:18] <ArrenLex> botxj: define "modes"
[07:18] <botxj> permissions
[07:18] <ArrenLex> botx: chmod
[07:18] <botxj> ya but that uses +R or whatnot
[07:18] <ravenouswolf> stefg: will try now...
[07:18] <mister_roboto> botxj: uses numbers too
[07:18] <botxj> those arent numbers
[07:18] <botxj> no it dont
[07:19] <ArrenLex> botx: for a single file, chmod <code> <file>
[07:19] <ArrenLex> That's numbers.
[07:19] <mister_roboto> botxj: yes, it does
[07:19] <mister_roboto> botxj: chmod 755 <file>  for example
[07:19] <botxj> nuh-uh, i did that in my ubuntu and it said, "does not recognise mode 0777" or whatnot
[07:19] <ladydoor> botxj: try it without the 0
[07:19] <ArrenLex> botx: do it again and paste the exact error message.
[07:20] <Samuli^> botxj, what file-system?
[07:20] <botxj> ext3
[07:20] <mister_roboto> botxj: i don't know what you're doing but i just did that EXACT same command and it works fine
[07:20] <tristanmike> Hi, can someone please help, I'm getting really frustrated here. i have a Logitech USB headset and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, I have to keep constantly testing /dev/dsp, /dev/dsp1, /dev/dsp2. I have to test each one, then log out, log in, retest, log out, log in, retest. It "works", and it worked great in Breezy, but now it's constantly changing, can someone help me understand what's going on and try to fix please. Thanx
[07:20] <tristanmike>  in advance.
[07:20] <mister_roboto> botxj: touch somefile && chmod 0777 somefile            no problem
[07:20] <jaypim> is there a similar application in ubuntu/lnux like netlimiter in windows ?
[07:20] <Rookie-> !netlimit
[07:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netlimit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:21] <botxj> aight, but i'm taking down your names, if it doesnt work when i boot into ubuntu, i'm coming back to bitch to you guys, lol
[07:21] <ladydoor> !language
[07:21] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:21] <mister_roboto> botxj: are you using some hacked up version of chmod perhaps?
[07:21] <ArrenLex> tristan: are you running OSS or alsa?
[07:21] <botxj> ladydoor, you can just tell me face to face
[07:21] <jaypim> is there a similar application in ubuntu/lnux like netlimiter in windows ? like a bandwidth limiter so I can control my dl speeds ?
[07:21] <tristanmike> ArrenLex: how do I know?
[07:21] <botxj> mister_roboto probably, but this came with my ubuntu
[07:22] <ArrenLex> tristan: did you just install ubuntu or did you mess with it?
[07:22] <mister_roboto> botxj: dapper?
[07:22] <ladydoor> botxj: fine. botxj, please don't curse. however, it's pretty accepted to give the standard bot-warning.
[07:22] <botxj> it says the only modes it accepts are +-= ugod
[07:22] <botxj> ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[07:22] <tristanmike> ArrenLex: It's not been just installed, but I haven't really done anything I shouldn't have
[07:22] <botxj> thank you ladydoor, i shall do as you wish
[07:22] <stefg> jaypim: the terminus technicus is Qos for that. Don't know if there's any frontend for configuring this kernel feature. maybe firestarter does it?
[07:22] <tristanmike> ArrenLex: I don't use weird sources, everything's from the wiki, etc
[07:22] <Skrot> Hi. Any fbsplash users around?
[07:22] <ArrenLex> tristan: does the headset work right now?
[07:23] <ladydoor> botxj: no, thank *you*
[07:23] <ladydoor> :-)
[07:23] <botxj> heh
[07:23] <botxj> lol
[07:23] <tristanmike> ArrenLex: sort of, I mean it's connected, and when I have it off of mute, I can tell that there is sound there, but applications don't see it unless I do the above steps
[07:24] <ArrenLex> tristan: define "tell that there is sound there"
[07:24] <mister_roboto> botxj: i'm running the same ubuntu (well, kubuntu desktop) and it's definitely not the same chmod you're running. maybe you have a rootkit installed?  ;)
[07:24] <tristanmike> ArrenLex: when I blow into the mic, I can hear it in the headset speaker
[07:24] <habeeb> Hello, I have two different users. I want the second one (my sister) to be on a different language than the first. How can I do that? (gnome btw)
[07:24] <habeeb> trying to convert my sister :P
[07:24] <ArrenLex> tristan: but can applications play sound so you can hear it in the speakers?
[07:25] <jbu> can someome help me get mp3 support for kaffeine? I went to some guides which told me to do "sudo apt-get install w32codecs" among other commands but that command didnt work, it said not found
[07:25] <tristanmike> ArrenLex: no, and furthermore, when I have, say Skype open, if it works properly, I should hear the 'test call' in my headset speaker, but I don't, I hear it though my external speakers
[07:25] <Zolace> ArrenLex, it cant locate the file...
[07:26] <dofiss> botxj: i think the command with numbers is chown not chmod
[07:26] <ArrenLex> Zolace: what file is this?
[07:26] <Zolace> (Message could not be sent because an error with the switchboard occurred
[07:26] <Zolace> oops ignore that
[07:26] <Zolace> chmod: cannot access `jre-1_5_0_08-linux-i686.bin': No such file or directory
[07:26] <mister_roboto> dofiss: chown is to change the user/group on a file, not the file permissions
[07:26] <ArrenLex> Zolace: does that file exist?
[07:26] <Zolace> Yes
[07:26] <botxj> thank you dofiss, that's probably it
[07:26] <dofiss> yup, I goofed, sorry
[07:26] <ArrenLex> Zolace: are you trying that command with sudo?
[07:26] <Zolace> Just downloaded it from https://sdlc5a.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet/DownloadPage:~:com.sun.sunit.sdlc.content.DownloadPageInfo;jsessionid=A587DC4402542E952E4706FCA067FBB9;jsessionid=A587DC4402542E952E4706FCA067FBB9
[07:26] <stefg> !info wondershaper
[07:27] <Zolace> Yep i am
[07:27] <ubotu> wondershaper: Easy to use traffic shaping script. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1a-4 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 80 kB
[07:27] <FjutrackX> can anyone help me with starting up a souncard (modprobe snd-sbawe
[07:27] <mister_roboto> botxj: touch somefile && chmod 0777 somefile            no problem
[07:27] <stefg> jaypim:wondershaper
[07:27] <ArrenLex> tristanmike: have you explored the volume settings in your gnome volume control?
[07:27] <mister_roboto> botxj: type that in.   does it fail? if so, your installtion is broken
[07:27] <botxj> mister_roboto obviously there is some kind of conspiracy going on here
[07:27] <Zolace> ArrenLex, im lost...
[07:27] <botxj> i cant type that in, i'm on widnows right now
[07:28] <Tonren> Hey guys, I'm trying to burn a data DVD, but the creator wo'nt tell me how much space I have.
[07:28] <tristanmike> ArrenLex: yep, and now that it doesn't work, I can log out/log in with the exact same settings, and it will then work
[07:28] <mister_roboto> botxj: lol     ok
[07:28] <mister_roboto> botxj: if you had cygwin installed, you could on windows too!   :)
[07:28] <ArrenLex> Tristan: something is screwed right the hell up.
[07:28] <tristanmike> ArrenLex: it seems like "dev/dsp" can make up it's mind, but I don't know nearly enough to really troubleshoot it, that's why I'm here :D
[07:28] <ArrenLex> Zolace: try this: "file jre-1_5_0_08-linux-i686.bin"
[07:28] <tristanmike> s/can/can't
[07:28] <ArrenLex> Zol: tell me what it returns
[07:29] <scuciatto> hello ..
[07:29] <ravenouswolf> stefg: thanks awesomely stefg, Im back on with user #1! Chown did the trick.
[07:29] <ArrenLex> tristan: /dev/dsp is the old OSS file. Alsa doesn't need it, except for emulating sound for legacy apps.
[07:29] <scuciatto> is there any repositories for vim7 X86_64 ?
[07:29] <Ivar__>  !w32codecs
[07:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:29] <stefg> ravenouswolf: np :-)... had this myself a couple of times
[07:29] <tristanmike> ArrenLex: see, I don't even know what I'm doing, :P lol
[07:30] <trickytrick> hallo
[07:30] <Zolace> ArrenLex, it says it doesn't exist stil...
[07:30] <ArrenLex> tristan, neither do I, never stopped me! :D
[07:30] <trickytrick> ik ga partities aanmaken met partition magic voor ubuntu
[07:30] <ArrenLex> Zolace: what happens if you run "ls *.bin"
[07:30] <Zolace> ArrenLex, do i need to type /home/asher/desktop etc
[07:30] <swanfl> join the club tristanmike
[07:30] <ArrenLex> Zolace: make that "ls -l *.bin"
[07:30] <swanfl> :)
[07:30] <tristanmike> lol
[07:30] <trickytrick> hoeveel gig moet ext2 hebben?
[07:30] <ravenouswolf> stefg: well have a good day/night. 1:30 am here so i think I better crash. Thanks again.
[07:30] <ArrenLex> Zolace: no, if you're already in that folder.
[07:31] <Zolace> It says "No such file or directory*
[07:31] <selinuxium> hi all, I can see the php4-imagick in the repos, does that mean that I cant use it on a php5 server?
[07:31] <ArrenLex> Zolace: how about just "ls -l"
[07:31] <deFrysk> trickytrick, dat kan ubuntu zelf wel
[07:31] <ArrenLex> !de
[07:31] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:31] <trickytrick> ik heb windows xp op de c partitie
[07:31] <tristanmike> ArrenLex: brb, i'm gonna log out and then in again, see what happens :P
[07:31] <Zolace> Yeah that worked
[07:31] <ArrenLex> Zolace: pastebin the output
[07:31] <Zolace> drwxr-xr-x 3 asher asher 4096 2006-09-24 18:16 Desktop
[07:32] <Zolace> lrwxrwxrwx 1 asher asher   26 2006-09-19 19:18 Examples -> /usr/share/example-content
[07:32] <deFrysk> trickytrick, ubuntu does the partitioning for you
[07:32] <stefg> !nl > trickytrick
[07:32] <jbu> hi all, can someone help me find out what version of ubuntu i have? how do i know if i have dapper drake?
[07:32] <Tonren> How do I get the CD/DVD creator to tell me how much space I have left?
[07:32] <ArrenLex> Zolace: you don't seem to be in the Desktop folder. Isn't that where the file is?
[07:32] <stefg> Tonren: by sudo apt-get install k3b :-D
[07:32] <Zolace> Ate
[07:32] <Zolace> Aye
[07:32] <Zolace> it is
[07:32] <Zolace> Hang on
[07:32] <ArrenLex> Tonren: k3b owns all.
[07:33] <Tonren> stefg: ArrenLex: I'll give it a try... too bad, Nautilus integration fails.
[07:33] <b14ck73425> hey all
[07:33] <drcode> any one worked with linux and grid?
[07:33] <Zolace> Sorry to be noob, but how do i navigate there in terminal?
[07:33] <ArrenLex> Zolace: cd Desktop
[07:33] <ArrenLex> Zol: cd means "change directory"
[07:33] <stefg> !bash > Zolace
[07:33] <Zolace> bash: cd: desktop: No such file or directory
[07:34] <ladydoor> Zolace: yeah, how dare you not know something!
[07:34] <Zolace> Heh :P
[07:34] <ArrenLex> Zolace: Linux is case sensitive. You have to type Desktop with a capital if that's the folder name.
[07:34] <Zolace> Ah ok
[07:34] <cpw> I should start an #ubuntu-ja channel at some point
[07:34] <Zolace> Aahah
[07:34] <Zolace> Ty
[07:34] <andrew____> hey
[07:34] <ArrenLex> cpw: have fun. Make sure you can talk to yourself for hours though if you do.
[07:35] <andrew____> im new, i was just wondering how i go about making a shortcut :)
[07:35] <Zolace> TY ArrenLex , i got it to work now
[07:35] <Zolace> Sigh
[07:35] <ArrenLex> Zolace: congratulations! :)
[07:35] <scuciatto> is there any repositories for vim7 X86_64 ?
[07:35] <ArrenLex> Zolace: everyone is n00b at some point. I remember the first time I used Linux.
[07:36] <b14ck73425> to make a shortcut you could drag and drop, like if its an internet shortcut
[07:36] <Zolace> Now to get shockwave to work...
[07:36] <letto> can ubuntu read ntfs partitions when used as livecd ?
[07:36] <ArrenLex> Zolace: there is no shockwave on Linux.
[07:36] <cpw> ArrenLex: well in one of the Japanese community sites I frequent, there's a community with about 485 people in it
[07:36] <ArrenLex> Zolace: do you mean flash?
[07:36] <b14ck73425> to make a program shortcut just make a launcher
[07:36] <cpw> ArrenLex: so I'm sure if I dropped a line I'd get SOME action :P
[07:36] <Zolace> ArrenLex, you ever played iSketch?
[07:36] <b14ck73425> for a panel just right click > add to panel
[07:36] <andrew____> im not sure what a launcer is
[07:36] <ArrenLex> Zol: nope, never heard of it.
[07:37] <stefg> Zolace: we all started knowing close to nothing, but were brave enough to fight through frustration, data loss and screwed config-files to have the beautiful system we're proud of today :-D
[07:37] <b14ck73425> its a program shortcut on the panel
[07:37] <ladydoor> andrew____: in gnome, it's the little things that live in your menubar and that you click on to open programs
[07:37] <ArrenLex> stefg: I hate my system. I want debian back.
[07:37] <b14ck73425> thank you ladydoor
[07:37] <andrew____> ohh okay thank you b14
[07:37] <b14ck73425> :)
[07:37] <Zolace> Ok
[07:37] <andrew____> thanks ladydoor
[07:37] <ladydoor> b14ck73425: oh! sorry, i missed what you said
[07:37] <writingdesk> can gnomebaker burn dvd isos?
[07:38] <ladydoor> andrew____: np
[07:38] <b14ck73425> np
[07:38] <ArrenLex> !iso
[07:38] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[07:38] <stefg> ArrenLex: what part of 'screwed config' was incomprehendable ? :-)
[07:38] <Dazed> How do I enable hardware overlay to play videos?  (My cpu is at 100% and giving limited frames per second)
[07:38] <ArrenLex> Dazed: video card?
[07:38] <Dazed> ati
[07:38] <ArrenLex> Dazed: X driver?
[07:38] <Dazed> Im using the ati drivers
[07:38] <tristanmike> ArrenLex: ok, now it works, here's another bit of info I noticed, you know the little drum beat when the Ubuntu logon window first shows, that "da-dum" one, well, if at that time the sound comes out of the speakers, my headset wont work, if the sound comes out of my headset speaker, it works, now the question is, what's it choosing, what's causing it to choose, and can I force it to choose that thing all the time ?
[07:38] <Zolace> ArrenLex, i have flash installed on linux
[07:38] <ArrenLex> Dazed: "ati drivers" = "fglrx"?
[07:39] <Zolace> But it still wont run those kind of internet games
[07:39] <Dazed> Ill check,  but I do have the clone working (tv and lcd)
[07:39] <ArrenLex> Zolace: what do you mean?
[07:39] <jasko_cracow_85> yo
[07:39] <Zolace> Ok, ArrenLex go to www.isketch.net
[07:40] <Zolace> It works until you click "Play now!
[07:40] <jasko_cracow_85> someone from poland heare?
[07:40] <ArrenLex> Zolace: what plugin is that game?
[07:40] <Zolace> But i have flash installed...
[07:40] <Zolace> It uses macromedia flash
[07:40] <Dazed> I have 2 devices, 1 says vesa and the other says fglrx
[07:40] <stefg> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[07:40] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[07:40] <ArrenLex> Zolace: no, it doesn't. It's a shockwave game. I just chceked.
[07:41] <ArrenLex> Zolace: you won't be able to use it on Linux natively.
[07:41] <Zolace> Ok
[07:41] <ArrenLex> Zolace: if you want you can try running firefox under wine and installing shockwave there.
[07:41] <Zolace> TY then... any chance of any shockwave for linux appearing any time soon?
[07:41] <gekko`> does this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24694 mean that the hdd is broken or is it still possible to fix it?
[07:41] <Zolace> What is wine? lol
[07:41] <b14ck73425> windows imulator
[07:41] <ArrenLex> Dazed: you have two cards?
[07:41] <b14ck73425> emulator
[07:41] <Dazed> nope, just 1
[07:41] <b14ck73425> sorry
[07:41] <Dazed> an ati x1400
[07:41] <ArrenLex> Dazed: oh, right, you said you were running two monitors.
[07:42] <Zolace> ArrenLex, what do you mean run firefox under wine?
[07:42] <Zolace> Wont that break my laptop?
[07:42] <tristanmike> any ideas ArrenLex?
[07:42] <stefg> Zolace: breaking new yeserday was that Adobe chose ubuntu as the reference platform for their flash 9 (and hopefully shockwave) development...
[07:42] <Dazed> they are running in mirror mode
[07:42] <ArrenLex> Dazed: add the following lines to your fglrx device section:
[07:42] <ArrenLex>         Option          "VideoOverlay"  "on"
[07:42] <ArrenLex>         Option          "OpenGLOverlay" "off"
[07:42] <ArrenLex> ^@dazed
[07:42] <Zolace> yay, stefg  :D
[07:42] <Dazed> thank you
[07:42] <Zolace> So the answer to my question was yes, it might happen sometime soon
[07:42] <Zolace> Wahoo!
[07:42] <ArrenLex> Zolace: wine is a windows API emulator. It lets you run some windows programs on Linux.
[07:42] <ArrenLex> !wine
[07:43] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:43] <Zolace> Ahhh cool
[07:43] <Zolace> TY
[07:43] <ArrenLex> setfg: the game Zolace wants to play is SHOCKWAVE. That means it will NEVER happen.
[07:43] <ladydoor> stefg: of course, the problem remains that they are not particularly likely to become free software.
[07:43] <ArrenLex> sefg: also, you lie. They use gentoo.
[07:44] <Zolace> Meh :(
[07:44] <ArrenLex> Zolace: but shockwave should run on it.
[07:44] <stefg> ladydoor: not speech-free, but beer-free i assume
[07:44] <ArrenLex> I have to go eat. Hope I helped someone today!
[07:44] <ArrenLex> See you all.
[07:45] <yourself_myself> hello all!
[07:45] <b14ck73425> peace
[07:45] <ladydoor> stefg: right, but beer-free without speech-free stifles sharing & community and shifts the focus onto money.
[07:45] <stefg> ArrenLex: have fun reinstalling etch :-)
[07:45] <b14ck73425> yourself_myself, hey
[07:45] <ArrenLex> stefg: no... I'm too busy to do that, unfortunately.
[07:45] <ncalpunker> Does anyone know of a way to get access to ntfs partition from ubuntu?  I see that it (by default) gets mounted in /tmp but is only readable by root.
[07:45] <Caplain__> ArrenLex: we all do
[07:45] <Caplain__> well can someone help me? i want to be able to control xmms globally
[07:46] <maksoud> I am using ubuntu live cd. My wireless card can see the networks available but can not ping my router even after defining the WEP, the static IP and the default gateway.... any suggestions?
[07:46] <ArrenLex> ncal: do you want to be able tow rite to this partition?
[07:46] <b14ck73425> xmms is a great media player
[07:46] <ArrenLex> ncal: to write *
[07:46] <ncalpunker> ArrenLex: I would prefer full read/write to it.
[07:46] <Caplain__> ncalpunker: sudo mount /dev/hdX /mountpoint -t ntfs -o user
[07:46] <ArrenLex> !ntfs
[07:46] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:46] <stefg> !fuse
[07:46] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:47] <ArrenLex> ncal: WARNING: you might corrupt your NTFS partition by using this utility.
[07:47] <ncalpunker> Caplain_: What is "user" in the mount cmd?
[07:47] <Caplain__> b14ck73425: yeah, and?
[07:47] <b14ck73425> you should just backup your important ntfs files before going to linux
[07:47] <mister_roboto> ArrenLex: I thought there was recent work on the ntfs driver that made it safe?
[07:47] <b14ck73425> what exactly are you trying to do?
[07:47] <yourself_myself> i'm using latest edgy. for some time now, since fstab used the UUID's gnome sees two of each of my disks and reports them twice. Is this a bug I should bugreport or is it just me?
[07:47] <ArrenLex> mister: the recent work on the ntfs driver made it USABLE without having to do a full partition check after EVERY WRITE.
[07:48] <Caplain__> ncalpunker: or do a -o uid=(your user id),gid=(your group id)
[07:48] <maksoud> I am using ubuntu live cd. My wireless card can see the networks available but can not ping my router even after defining the WEP, the static IP and the default gateway.... any suggestions?
[07:48] <stefg> yourself_myself: /j #ubuntu+1, and i think this is a known issue already
[07:48] <visham> hi folks!!!
[07:48] <yourself_myself> stefg: thanks!
[07:49] <visham> how do i change the default font
[07:50] <yourself_myself> visham: what default font?
[07:50] <yourself_myself> in gnome?
[07:50] <yourself_myself> in kde?
[07:50] <PopeOfWar> Is there anybody in here who already knows about my problem?
[07:51] <b14ck73425> system > prefrences > font
[07:51] <b14ck73425> in gnome
[07:51] <b14ck73425> :)
[07:51] <visham> in console
[07:51] <visham> when the system first boots up
[07:51] <seraphim> AbortD: did you have the problem with mp3-preview? did you solve it?
[07:52] <b14ck73425> that i have no idea sorry
[07:52] <b14ck73425> i hate the console i avoid it at all costs
[07:52] <maksoud> I am using ubuntu live cd. My wireless card can see the networks available but can not ping my router even after defining the WEP, the static IP and the default gateway.... any suggestions?
[07:52] <jaypim> should I separate / with /etc and /boot to avoid / from filling up ?
[07:52] <shroudedcloud> hey can someone help me get netscape internet support for Ubuntu?
[07:52] <stefg> what?
[07:52] <melina> Hello, how can I make a command-line application load in startup like rtorrent?
[07:52] <PopeOfWar> shroudecloud: Get broadband internt... there, problem solved.
[07:53] <jaypim> my 256MB root directory has just been filled up by constant software updates
[07:53] <shroudedcloud> cant where i am
[07:53] <PopeOfWar> lol
[07:53] <PopeOfWar> oh
[07:53] <b14ck73425> lol
[07:53] <shroudedcloud> too far away from a phone company
[07:53] <Tor-_-Arne> halla :D
[07:53] <cpw> You should be able to get sattilite
[07:53] <shroudedcloud> and cable company too
[07:53] <cpw> if nothing else
[07:53] <stefg> melina: check ~/.bashrc and .profile
[07:53] <PopeOfWar> shroudedcloud: You can't get DSL OR Cable?
[07:53] <shroudedcloud> Nope
[07:54] <b14ck73425> that sucks
[07:54] <shroudedcloud> yep
[07:54] <infinity81> hey i just installed ubuntu. i need help configuring my CDMA phone modem
[07:54] <ladydoor> melina: do you boot to a command-line or to a desktop environment or to a window manager?
[07:54] <PopeOfWar> shroudedcloud: That's too bad... I've never had any experience with Netscape's internet service... only their brower (before they went out of business, lol)
[07:54] <PopeOfWar> ladydoor: *hi*
[07:55] <melina> ladydoor: GNOME
[07:55] <shroudedcloud> yeah, i tried asking NS for some help and they jsut gave me some canned responses
[07:55] <melina> I can add normal programs with GUI from the Session -> Startup, but not console programs :/
[07:55] <ladydoor> melina: ok, in that case, i think there's something like "session settings" somewhere in one of your menus. so you could put in your startup commands xterm -e rtorrent
[07:56] <PopeOfWar> cpw: (s)he *can* get satellite, but it's pretty costly...
[07:56] <melina> ladydoor: Thats great. I didnt know such a command!
[07:56] <melina> ladydoor: Thanks!
[07:56] <Who_> is there any way to make GRUB scan ALL mounted disks for kernels and add them all to the conf file?
[07:56] <shroudedcloud> and Ive tried to get it to work thorugh GNOME PPP and itll connect but it wont stay connected
[07:56] <nearfar> I installed ubuntu-server. then did apt-get install fvwm xdm
[07:56] <ladydoor> melina: :-). no problem. you can start most terminals with the -e parameter that makes them execute a program
[07:56] <nearfar> but I couldn't start xdm
[07:56] <nearfar> nothing happens
[07:56] <PopeOfWar> Who_: I don't know, but you *can* do it manually... it might take a while, though
[07:57] <melina> Do you also know how to change the language in GNOME? I downloaded the locales using APT. I selected the language from the login menu, after restarting X. But everything is still in English.
[07:57] <maksoud> I am using ubuntu live cd. My wireless card can see the networks available but can not ping my router even after defining the WEP, the static IP and the default gateway.... any suggestions?
[07:57] <Caplain> how do i control an app from any other app using hotkeys in X?
[07:57] <PopeOfWar> ladydoor: You know about my problem, or at least the jist of it, right?
[07:58] <Caplain> maksoud: #wireless
[07:58] <ladydoor> PopeOfWar: you had the internet woes, right?
[07:58] <Who_> PopeOfWar: yea, for me the maual approach is collecting the lines from old grub installs on old disks - buit it will take me a while - I thought the installer scanned all disks so I thought I might be able to do it too :)
[07:58] <nearfar> X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory)
[07:58] <nearfar> ^^ in xdm.log
[07:58] <nearfar> any idea?
[07:59] <PopeOfWar> ladydoor: Yes... and last night I was able to get to Google, and search Google, and stuff, but I couldn't get anywhere else... so I restarted my browser, and then I couldn't even get to Google anymore, lmao
[07:59] <shroudedcloud> any ideas for me?
[07:59] <Who_> PopeofWar: are you sure google just wasn't in your cache from when you last had internet
[07:59] <Who_> ?
[07:59] <ladydoor> PopeOfWar: that's really bizarre...i'm sorry, i have no idea what would cause that. can you ping google (ping www.google.com) (use control-c to quit)
[07:59] <ladydoor> ?
[07:59] <PopeOfWar> maksoud: Does your router support Linux?
[07:59] <BorD> ever see could not open default font 'fixed'
[08:00] <newbieburk> How do I stop X?
[08:00] <PopeOfWar> Who_: That was the *first* time I had ever gotten to the internet from Ubuntu
[08:00] <melina> dpkg-reconfigure locales, would alter all the users? Or just the one that was used at that time/
[08:00] <Zolace> More questions... when i open bittorrent i am asked for a bittorrent meta file - what is this and where can i find it?
[08:00] <shroudedcloud> oh another thing, how would i get some windows fonts onto Ubuntu?
[08:00] <Who_> PopeOfWar: that'd be a pretty magical cache :)
[08:01] <newbieburk> How do I stop X?
[08:01] <shroudedcloud> ive been trying to figure out hwo to get the Calibri font ot Linux for awhile, it was much easier in Mandriva
[08:01] <Who_> shroudedcloud: just copy the .ttf files from C:\WINDIR\Fonts to the fonts:// folder in nautilus
[08:01] <PopeOfWar> Who_: Yeah, I know, if only the cache automatically geneerated itself from places you've never been, lol
[08:01] <bewat3r> hi, can somebody tell if there are shortcuts for copy and paste?
[08:01] <jerrcs> hi. im getting an odd error whenever i try to passwd: "Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info."
[08:01] <Zolace> CTRL+C and CTRL+V
[08:01] <Zolace> :P
[08:01] <PopeOfWar> ladydoor: "ping: unkown host google.com"
[08:01] <jerrcs> anyone know how to fix that?
[08:01] <ladydoor> bewat3r: in what program?
[08:01] <Who_> bewat3r - it should be ctrl+c and ctrl+v
[08:02] <PopeOfWar> ladydoor: "ping: unknown host www.google.com" too
[08:02] <Zolace> bewat3r,  CTRL+C and CTRL+V
[08:02] <ladydoor> PopeOfWar: what does ifconfig spit out? *just interface name, i mean
[08:02] <Zolace> More questions... when i open bittorrent i am asked for a bittorrent meta file - what is this and where can i find it?
[08:02] <lars> is there a repositorie for mplayer, acidrip ?
[08:02] <Who_> bewat3r: you can also somtimes highlight things to 'copy' and use the middle mouse to 'paste' (I think this uses a different clipboard to normal copy and paste)
[08:02] <bewat3r> why don't they work in the terminal, as there works only the mid mouse button
[08:02] <Dr_willis> which 'terminal' ?
[08:02] <PopeOfWar> ladydoor: You mean the top line of ifconfig?
[08:03] <Who_> bewat3r: in a terminal ctrl+c has classicly been used to close programs, so it wouldn't make a good copy command
[08:03] <shroudedcloud> Who_: thx
[08:03] <PopeOfWar> Dr_willis: There is only *one* terminal in Linux...
[08:03] <Zolace> Haha lol
[08:03] <melina> dpkg-reconfigure locales, would alter all the users? Or just the one that was used at that time/
[08:03] <Who_> shroudedcloud: you should do it as root if you want all users to have them
[08:03] <PopeOfWar> !pastebin
[08:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:03] <Who_> I.E sudo nautilus --no-desktop
[08:03] <Zolace> What is a bittorrent metafile?
[08:03] <shroudedcloud> im the only one on this comp
[08:04] <shroudedcloud> it wont matter much
[08:04] <Who_> shroudedcload: see above and : and then press ctrl+l to get a location entry bar if it isn't already there
[08:04] <bewat3r> is there a command for the terminal, that opens a window with root rights?
[08:04] <melina> bewat3r: gksudo
[08:04] <ladydoor> PopeOfWar: i suppose so, if it only gives you one interface
[08:04] <Who_> shroudedcloud:see above, mispelled your name
[08:04] <ladydoor> bewat3r: what kind of window?
[08:04] <EkUmBa> what is the best bittorrent client for ubuntu?
[08:04] <CyberSky> helpmee help me
[08:04] <EkUmBa> azureus doesn't install properly for my new ubuntu version
[08:04] <Zolace> EkUmBa - bittorrent comes with ubuntu...
[08:04] <CyberSky> wy i cant install gcc on ubuntu dabber
[08:04] <ladydoor> !best
[08:04] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[08:04] <bewat3r> like opening usr with that rights
[08:04] <PopeOfWar> ladydoor: eth0 is an interface, right? I'm just wondering what you mean by "interface"...
[08:05] <Who_> bewat3r: from a terminal sudo xterm works, from somewhere else you could use gksudo xterm
[08:05] <CyberSky> !sources.list
[08:05] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:05] <Zolace> ARGH
[08:05] <Who_> bewat3r: sudo nautilus --no-desktop /usr
[08:05] <BorD> ever see could not open default font 'fixed' ?
[08:05] <EkUmBa> but which bottorrent client is the better one?
[08:05] <ladydoor> PopeOfWar: it sure is
[08:05] <Who_> BorD: no - where is it occuring, what problem is it causing?
[08:06] <bewat3r> who_, thx :D
[08:06] <CyberSky> !easysource
[08:06] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:06] <ladydoor> EkUmBa: there are a lot of good ones. it depends entirely on what you're looking for
[08:06] <shroudedcloud> Who_: thx a lot
[08:06] <ladydoor> EkUmBa: that's the thing about linux--it's about choices, and so there are a *lot* of choices. which one is the "best" depends on your tastes and what you need it to do.
[08:06] <BorD> trying to start vncserver, get that error
[08:06] <Who_> PopeOfWar:it sounds alittle like you may have DNS issues? is that possible?
[08:06] <PopeOfWar> ladydoor: Well, I'm getting eth0 and lo
[08:07] <Who_> BorD: does it work anyway?
[08:07] <BorD> nope
[08:07] <ladydoor> PopeOfWar: what does sudo ifup eth0 do? it may be a stupid question, but it's worth a shot
[08:07] <Dr_willis> BorD,  remove tightvnc and use the vnc4server - theres a bug in the tightvncserver script
[08:07] <shroudedcloud> has anyone here ever tried out freeBSD, I was thinking of testing it....
[08:07] <EkUmBa> well,i liked very mich azureus,but i doesn't work.so i just want a bittorrent,that is fast in downloading,thats all
[08:07] <gnopgnip> is there a way i can download most of the ubuntu installers now while on windows if my hd is partitioned?
[08:07] <Dr_willis> shroudedcloud,  install vmware server and install it in there. :P best of both worlds
[08:07] <Who_> BorD: have you tried using the tools in System-->Preferences-->Remote desktop - that setes up a vncserver for you
[08:08] <PopeOfWar> Who_: No, right now I'm using the *same* modem, the *same* IP Address (btw, I *am* getting an IP addres), and even the *same* Ethernet cable
[08:08] <Who_> PopeOfWar: you need someone better than me :)
[08:08] <shroudedcloud> thx for the help guys, peace
[08:09] <PopeOfWar> ladydoor: "ifup eth0" doesn't mean "I-f-up the eth0"... does it? lol
[08:09] <Zolace> Can someone please help me????
[08:09] <BorD> but thats on :0, im looking to create other desktops in vnc..
[08:09] <Zolace> Please?
[08:09] <ArrenLex> Zolace: what? What? xD
[08:09] <ladydoor> PopeOfWar: nope, it's supposed to bring up the internet
[08:09] <PopeOfWar> ladydoor: "ifup: interface eth0 already configured"
[08:09] <PopeOfWar> !someone > Zolace
[08:09] <Zolace> When i open bittorrent it asks me for a metafile - where can i find it >.<
[08:10] <Asc> Zolace: it probably means a .torrent file
[08:10] <ArrenLex> Zolace: what do you mean, when you open "bittorrent"?
[08:10] <ArrenLex> Zolace: are you opening azureus, or bittorrentgui, or a .torrent file?
[08:10] <ladydoor> PopeOfWar: lol. ok then, how about sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0?
[08:10] <Zolace> When i open it a box comes up with "Open location for bittorrent meta file"
[08:11] <ArrenLex> stefg: I'm not reinstalling etch. I don't have time. And I just finished eating.
[08:11] <ladydoor> gnopgnip: go to ubuntu.com. there should be a download page
[08:11] <Zolace> Ohhhhhh
[08:11] <Zolace> I see.
[08:11] <Zolace> lol
[08:11] <Who_> BorD: you could try making a link form /usr/share/fonts/truetype/vnchack/fixed a fixedwidth font elsewhere font
[08:12] <stefg> !download
[08:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[08:12] <Who_> Bord:sorry, that should have been 'to another fixedwidth font': Do you want help doing that - I guess not :)
[08:12] <Who_> BorD: dunno if VNC is case sensitivve - see above
[08:13] <PopeOfWar> ladydoor:
[08:13] <PopeOfWar> "No DHCPOFFERS recieved
[08:13] <PopeOfWar> No wroking leases in persistent database - sleeping."
[08:13] <zaggynl> !alsa
[08:13] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:13] <Dr_willis> BorD,  the problem is discussed in the forums i recall - it weas some link that had to be made to fix it.. or a edit of the vncserver script
[08:13] <ladydoor> PopeOfWar: ok, that means that for some reason it's not able to get a dhcp address--and i don't know what causes that. i'm sorry.
[08:14] <PopeOfWar> ladydoor: Ok
[08:14] <ArrenLex> Pope: what are you trying to do?
[08:14] <PopeOfWar> ArrenLex: You remember me... I'm the one with the 5-day-old internet problem, lol
[08:14] <ArrenLex> Pope: summarise it. xD
[08:15] <Who_> BorD: alternatively use vino if it is for GNOME - that has ubuntu certification and vncserver doesn't
[08:16] <PopeOfWar> ArrenLex: I was having trouble installing the drivers for my integrated NIC, so I bought a Netgear card, It's installed, and configured properly, but I'm not getting a connection... DHCP isn't replying to my requests and such
[08:16] <ArrenLex> Pope: do you actually have a DHCP server in your network?
[08:16] <Who_> BorD: good luck, I'm off :)
[08:16] <Rehinold> can someone help he uninstalling old version of wine?
[08:16] <PopeOfWar> ArrenLex: Last night I got to Google, but nothing else, I restarted Fx to see if it was just a little glitch, but then I couldn't even get to google
[08:17] <Who_> Rehinold: in order to reinstall a new one?
[08:17] <PopeOfWar> ArrenLex: Yes. Comcast uses DHCP, not a static IP/
[08:17] <Who_> Rehinold:most likely you can just uninstall if from synaptic and delete /home/yourusername/.wine
[08:17] <ArrenLex> Pope: did you ever have troubles getting this card to work on Windows?
[08:17] <Who_> rehinold: or just rename ~/.wine to ~/.wine_OLD
[08:17] <PopeOfWar> ArrenLex: No, as soon as I plugged it in, everything was working fine...
[08:18] <stefg> PopeOfWar: so you're on DSL, without  a router, right?
[08:18] <Rehinold> Who_: I installed the latest one, but it's bugged
[08:18] <Renan_s2> !xgl
[08:18] <PopeOfWar> ArrenLex: My connection goes Computer>Ethernet Cable>Cable Modem>Internet... no routers or anything in between
[08:18] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:18] <PopeOfWar> stefg: Read above^^
[08:18] <Rehinold> Who_: so I'm going to put the precedent version
[08:19] <ArrenLex> Pope: what are you using to talk to us right now?
[08:19] <Who_> Rehinold: ahhh, well you can leave your configuration alone then, probably
[08:19] <Who_> rehinold: you have two options
[08:19] <PopeOfWar> ArrenLex: I am using my old computer.
[08:20] <Who_> Rehinold: in Synaptic you can go Package(menu)-->Force version
[08:20] <ArrenLex> Pope: running Windows?
[08:20] <stefg> PopeOfWar: so you are aware that you'd need pppoe or pptp to connect... that's not simple tcp/ip networking in most cases (speaking of the european situation, doesn't know about americas)
[08:20] <Rehinold> Who_: yes
[08:20] <Tokenbad> the default games that come in ubuntu...is there a way to remove them?
[08:20] <zaggynl> What does this error message mean: 'ALSA lib pcm_dsnoop.c:559:(snd_pcm_dsnoop_open) unable to open slave' ?
[08:20] <Who_> Rehinold: or at the command line type sudo apt-get install wine-<versionnumber>
[08:20] <zaggynl> I tried setting up Alsa the way it should be, but can't get this away.
[08:20] <zaggynl> Hi jack
[08:20] <Jack_Sparrow> hi
[08:21] <PopeOfWar> ArrenLex: Hold on a second... wow, I feel so dumb... when ladydoor told me to do the eth0 up/down stuff, I had no ethernet cable pluged in, *lmao*
[08:21] <Rehinold> Who_: ok so I don't need to uninstall newer version
[08:21] <ArrenLex> PopeOfWar: that... MIGHT be a problem.
[08:21] <pty> PopeOfWar: D'oh
[08:21] <andi5> does anyone know a binary ubuntu (edgy) package emacs-multi-tty / can give me an advice or link on how to create one? thanks in advance!
[08:21] <jaypim> is there a way to see how large is my /etc ?
[08:21] <stefg> lmao
[08:21] <ompaul> !edgy
[08:21] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[08:21] <PopeOfWar> I'll be right back... I'm gonna try the eth0 stuff again, ladydoor... this time, while I'm plugged in
[08:21] <sethk> jaypim, du -sh /etc
[08:21] <Who_> Rehinold: apt will take care of it (or synaptic, whatever you use )
[08:22] <ladydoor> PopeOfWar: lol
[08:22] <f-> hi. is there a command to check how many KB/s a process is downloading from the internet? like if i type "command_name PID" >> it'll show me 569KB/s etc.. this style...
[08:22] <FurryNemesis> !fspot
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fspot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <Rehinold> Who_: it doesn't find the version
[08:22] <someusernoob> !f-spot
[08:22] <ubotu> f-spot: personal photo management application. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.11-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 820 kB, installed size 2940 kB
[08:22] <Rehinold> Who_: I think in repository there are only latest versiopns
[08:22] <FurryNemesis> !schedule
[08:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[08:22] <zaggynl> Does anyone know what this errormessage means: forceALSA lib pcm_dsnoop.c:559:(snd_pcm_dsnoop_open) unable to open slave
[08:23] <Rehinold> Who_: I have donwloaded the version I want to install. It's .deb file
[08:23] <Rehinold> Who_: but I don't know how to uninstall the bugged version
[08:23] <Arrick> afternoon everybody
[08:23] <zaggynl> lo arrick
[08:23] <Asc> f-: I think the process monitor atop can do that if you install its' kernel module, but I haven't actually done so.
[08:23] <iLLf8d> lo Arrick
[08:24] <lars> where can i find a repositorie for mplayer, acidrip?
[08:24] <Jack_Sparrow> lars: I thought acidrip was in the repos..
[08:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !acidrip
[08:24] <ubotu> acidrip: ripping and encoding DVD tool using mplayer and mencoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.14-0.0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 53 kB, installed size 276 kB
[08:25] <ArrenLex> !mplayer
[08:25] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[08:25] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[08:25] <keescook> f-: I don't think there is.  But you can try "sudo ifstat" to get interface details.  (and "sudo netstat -anp | grep PID" to see connections)
[08:25] <lars> me to, but when i try to do apt-get install acidrip or cache search it dont' show up
[08:25] <lars> i have the 6.06.1
[08:25] <ArrenLex> lars: you need to enable the multiverse repository.
[08:25] <lars> i'm quite sure i have done that ArrenLex
[08:25] <PopeOfWar_Ubuntu> It works!!!
[08:25] <ArrenLex> lars: cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep multi
[08:26] <Zolace_> Message could not be sent because an error with the switchboard occurred <- how to fix?
[08:26] <Arrick> I have a situation where I am trying to setup a ubuntu server installation as a firewall on my home network, I have chosen to use fiaif to do this, and I was wondering if anyone here knows how to set something like this up, as I am still kind of lost with it. I am not using Dapper, I am using Breezy.
[08:26] <ArrenLex> lars: paste the result here
[08:26] <Max_-> What would the ben most iTunes like software I can use under linux???
[08:26] <PopeOfWar_Ubuntu> It said PopeOfWar was already in use, so I'm on a different name, but *it works*
[08:26] <FurryNemesis> Zolace, I had that yesterday. Gaim?
[08:26] <jpjacobs> Max_-, amarok is quite itunes-y
[08:26] <pty> With iPod syncing in mind Max_- ?
[08:26] <Max_-> thanks jpjacobs
[08:26] <ArrenLex> Max: how about amarok?
[08:26] <Who_> Rehinold: well, in thac case
[08:26] <Zolace_> Yeah furry
[08:26] <Max_-> pty, yup maybe?!
[08:26] <Zolace_> Happens all the time
[08:26] <Tokenbad> is there a way to remove openoffice from ubuntu?
[08:26] <lars> ArrenLex, should i past all here?
[08:26] <Who_> rehinold: sudo apt-get remove wine should do it :)
[08:27] <Zolace_> I later discovered i had d/c from the internet... it would have been nice for it to log me out, or for ubuntu to say something about it
[08:27] <Zolace_> GRR
[08:27] <Rehinold> Who_:  ok :)
[08:27] <FurryNemesis> Zolace, I think the problem is MS side - nothing that can be done our end
[08:27] <jpjacobs> Max_-, for ipod stncing there is gtkpod
[08:27] <PopeOfWar_Ubuntu> ArrenLex: ladydoor: Thanks for all your help...  along with some from cherubiel and Killgore
[08:27] <ArrenLex> lars: if it's more than two lines, use pastebin.
[08:27] <ArrenLex> !pastebin
[08:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:27] <Max_-> okay, thx jpjacobs
[08:27] <Who_> Tokenbad: you can use synaptic packagemanager, search for openoffice and remove it
[08:27] <pty> I use quod libet with the ipod plugin.  i think that Banshee supports ipods pretty well though
[08:27] <Asc> Tokenbad: I did it with synaptic.  Search for 'openoffice' maybe
[08:27] <Rehinold> Who_:  ok remove
[08:28] <Rehinold> Who_:  now I have the file .deb I have to install it
[08:28] <ladydoor> PopeOfWar_Ubuntu: it worked?
[08:28] <Who_> Rehinold: with the old version gone you have two optsions
[08:28] <PopeOfWar_Ubuntu> ladydoor: yup
[08:28] <ArrenLex> Hurrah! The Pope is now online!
[08:28] <PopeOfWar_Ubuntu> yippeeeee
[08:28] <PopeOfWar_Ubuntu> lol
[08:28] <PopeOfWar_Ubuntu> thanks a lot, you two
[08:28] <lars> ArrenLex, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24697
[08:28] <ladydoor> PopeOfWar_Ubuntu: np. you've been very persistent
[08:29] <Who_> rehinold: the geeky way is to navigate to it's folder  from the terminal (cd /wherever/wherever) and then use debian package to install it (sudo dpkg -i debname.de)
[08:29] <ClayG> morning guys
[08:29] <Rehinold> Who_: yes
[08:29] <Who_> Rehinold:or just double click on it if you are on dapper
[08:29] <ClayG> Anyone here use gnucash for MM and CD accounts?
[08:29] <ArrenLex> Pope: One time I spent ages trying to figure out why Linux refused to read my floppy disc.
[08:29] <ArrenLex> Pope: I was getting so frustrated.
[08:29] <PopeOfWar_Ubuntu> ladydoor: Now I need to go install my nVidia drivers, lol... 1024x768 reso doesn't look good on a 21" WS monitor
[08:29] <ArrenLex> Pople: ...and then I figured out it wasn't in the drive
[08:29] <david_> how do i edit grub?
[08:29] <ClayG> also is there a part in gnome or *gasp* the CLi where I can see what starts when my system does?
[08:30] <ArrenLex> lars: you need to add the following line:
[08:30] <Tonren> Is there a mixer/equalizer for MPD/MPC?
[08:30] <ArrenLex> deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[08:30] <vdepizzol> how can I install xgl in dapper?
[08:30] <ladydoor> ClayG: ls /etc/init.d
[08:30] <Dr_willis> !xgl
[08:30] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:30] <Who_> david: grub bootlader
[08:30] <ArrenLex> lars: trust me, it's not the same as what you have.
[08:30] <stefg> PopeOfWar_Ubuntu: 64 bit or 32 bit ubuntu?
[08:30] <Who_> david: oops, that was supposed to make ubotu do it's thing :)
[08:30] <Jack_Sparrow> david_: gksudo gedit  /boot/grub/menu.lst   but first make a backup by...  sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst ~/menu.lst.backup
[08:30] <PopeOfWar_Ubuntu> stefg: 64-bit, I think...
[08:30] <Who_> !grub
[08:30] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:30] <ClayG> hmmm init.d? that is a file or directory?  when i change ip i /etc/init.d./networking restart
[08:30] <PopeOfWar_Ubuntu> BRB
[08:30] <pty> ClayG: system->preferences->sessions ?
[08:30] <Dr_willis> Learning what to edit in the grub menu is the harder part. :P
[08:31] <Who_> david: did the above help?
[08:31] <stefg> PopeOfWar_Ubuntu: what does uname -r tell?
[08:31] <ClayG> thank you ladydoor  and pty
[08:31] <Who_> stefg: the current kernael version (uname -r)
[08:31] <Rehinold> Who_: thanks :)
[08:31] <lars> ArrenLex, thanks
[08:31] <ikonia> could someone please take a look at the two files in this location. http://dev.projecthugo.co.uk/printing_problems/   I have a printer setup and working through cups. I've tried to print a DVD cover to go in a DVD box. Looking at the gimp-screen shot the image takes up the file width/size of the paper (great) however if you look at the whitespace.jpg file and look at where my finger is you'll see that gimp positions the image off center when print
[08:31] <ikonia> ing so the image doesn't fit and white space is wasted. Any thoughts on this
[08:31] <Who_> Rehinold: good luck :)
[08:31] <sh1> Hello!
[08:31] <ClayG> I'll peep both out, ladydoor so do i basically look for programs(or links?) in the init.d dir?
[08:31] <PopeOfWar_Ubuntu> stefg: 2.6.15-26-386 *brb*
[08:31] <ladydoor> ClayG: init.d is a directory. if you wanted to read a file, you'd use less instead of less
[08:32] <ladydoor> ClayG: it should have a bunch of executable scripts in it
[08:32] <ClayG> heh this whole time i've been using nano
[08:32] <ClayG> ok. so all i do is remove one of the scripts
[08:32] <ClayG> ?
[08:32] <ClayG> that i dont want to start
[08:32] <sh1> uhmmm, i cant get my Svideo to work
[08:32] <ClayG> ouch, i feel a "man" or "google" coming on
[08:32] <stefg> PopeOfWar_Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-drivers-`uname -r` nvidia-glx && nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:32] <pty> ClayG: ah - i misunderstood your question - i thought you meant what started up with your gnome session
[08:33] <dekup> hi how can start alsaconf? it doesnt installed in my ubuntu system.
[08:33] <ClayG> I'll slow down and LOOK, and then ask when stumped again, thanks both of you
[08:33] <stefg> PopeOfWar_Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` nvidia-glx && nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:33] <ArrenLex> dekup: I can't find it in ubuntu. For myself, I copied it from my debian system.
[08:33] <Tonren> Is there a mixer/equalizer for MPD/MPC?
[08:33] <jaypim> Is it bad to interrupt software updates while it's downloading ?
[08:33] <ClayG> pty, well i remember finding a place that had a lot of stuff listed, lol one was laptop powersaving, and im on a desktop. Things like that I dont need
[08:33] <ClayG> kinda like a msconfig but for nix
[08:33] <stefg> PopeOfWar_Ubuntu... we're getting there it's: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:33] <jaypim> Is it bad to interrupt/cancel software updates while it's downloading ?
[08:34] <dekup> ArrenLex: how?
[08:34] <Telroth_Plushie|> jaypim, not really. it'll pick up where it left off.
[08:34] <ArrenLex> jaypim: you can kill them when downloading, but not when they're already installing.
[08:35] <shogran> i cant seem to display my desktop onto a TV with Svideo.. is there a program i need or something?
[08:35] <Zolace_> Why doesn't Ubuntu sign you out of GAIM when you disconnect from the internet?
[08:35] <ArrenLex> shogran: card? drivers?
[08:35] <shogran> nvidia ,, all the drivers
[08:35] <shogran> non legacy
[08:35] <ArrenLex> Zolace: that's not ubuntu's fault, that's how gaim handles it.
[08:36] <killown> anyone know any game with fractal compression?
[08:36] <PopeOfWar_Ubuntu> stefg: So... you only want me to enter the *last* one you posted? Not all three, I'm hoping, lol...
[08:36] <stefg> PopeOfWar_Ubuntu: exactly
[08:37] <PopeOfWar_Ubuntu> stefg: Ok, thanks, one sec
[08:37] <shogran> GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x
[08:37] <ladydoor> ClayG: oh, ok. you want something like bum
[08:37] <ladydoor> !bum
[08:37] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[08:37] <Jaak_> Wat is absolutely the best application availabke?
[08:37] <ArrenLex> Sorry, shogran, I don't know much about nvidia drivers. I can't help you further.
[08:37] <ClayG> ladydoor, i thought you forgot about me
[08:37] <shogran> alright
[08:37] <ArrenLex> Jaak: Linux.
[08:37] <ladydoor> ClayG: i'm absent-minded.
[08:37] <ClayG> ladydoor, but init.d, those scripts START when the computer starts right?
[08:37] <stefg> Jaak_: apt!
[08:37] <Borden> Jaak: Celestia
[08:38] <pty> Jaak_: vi :)
[08:38] <edulix> hello !
[08:38] <ladydoor> ClayG: yup! and bum is a program that lets you choose which ones to start.
[08:38] <shogran> Jaak windows XP ...  the best prank virus in the world
[08:38] <ArrenLex> Jaak: your mother!
[08:38] <PopeOfWar_Ubuntu> stefg: "Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted nvidia-glx 1.0.8762+2.6.15.11-3
[08:38] <PopeOfWar_Ubuntu>   404 Not Found
[08:38] <ArrenLex> /info ladydoor
[08:38] <PopeOfWar_Ubuntu> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/nvidia-glx_1.0.8762+2.6.15.11-3_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[08:38] <PopeOfWar_Ubuntu> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?"
[08:38] <ArrenLex> Hmpf. I guess that doesn't work.
[08:38] <ladydoor> ArrenLex: errr...meaning? what do you want to know?
[08:38] <ClayG> ladydoor, do you use bum or are you a master that can just knock scripts that you aren't using off like fleas in the CLI and give an evil laugh?
[08:38] <ArrenLex> Ah, there we go. It's whois.
[08:38] <Jaak_> lol
[08:38] <stefg> PopeOfWar_Ubuntu: sh... your mirror seems down atm
[08:39] <PopeOfWar_Ubuntu> ladydoor: ArrenLex is a stalker...
[08:39] <stefg> !mirrors
[08:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[08:39] <Jaak_> I have the awnser
[08:39] <PopeOfWar_Ubuntu> stefg: *that* didn't work, lmao
[08:39] <ArrenLex> I see you.
[08:39] <Borden> have any of the Eclipse users here noticed that it takes about 5 minutes to load these days?
[08:39] <ArrenLex> >=D
[08:39] <zaggynl> how do you reload /etc/modules?
[08:39] <ladydoor> ClayG: lol...somewhere in between? i've used bum before, but never written an init script. *shrug*
[08:39] <Jack_Sparrow> PopeOfWar_Ubuntu: where did you get that link?
[08:39] <Borden> (which is why Eclipse isn't my favourite anymore :P)
[08:39] <ArrenLex> I seee you, PopeOfWar!
[08:40] <Violinista> hello
[08:40] <PopeOfWar_Ubuntu> Jack_Sparrow: "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" (like your name, btw)
[08:40] <shogran> hello violinista
[08:40] <Violinista> ho was everething?
[08:40] <Jaak_> it's ms word!
[08:40] <Jaak_> noo, don't kick me! =P
[08:40] <Violinista> hello
[08:40] <zaggynl> how do you reload /etc/modules?
[08:40] <ClayG> ok, moving on (and thanks for that), any here use GNUcash to track CD and Money market accounts?
[08:40] <shogran> how you doin?
[08:40] <Violinista> where are you from?
[08:40] <shogran> New York
[08:40] <ClayG> I need something that understands compound interest
[08:40] <Ademan> at startup X won't start and it says "X is not executable"
[08:40] <Violinista> haa..
[08:41] <Violinista> i m from argentina
[08:41] <shogran> somewhere arounf the buffalo manhatten area ..
[08:41] <ClayG> Ademan, when i try i get "Bad command or file name" lol
[08:41] <shogran> cool
[08:41] <Violinista> south america
[08:41] <ArrenLex> Ademan: try "sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/X"
[08:41] <Violinista> i dont speak english very well-
[08:41] <shogran> i know where argentina is
[08:41] <ClayG> heheheh
[08:41] <Violinista> :D
[08:41] <shogran> i understand,,, is it nice and warm there?
[08:41] <ClayG> i thought he/she was talking about ARG south carolina
[08:42] <Violinista> yeah...cause the spring is started..
[08:42] <Violinista> but in winter is cold..
[08:42] <PopeOfWar_Ubuntu> Violinista: Winter's starting up here... it's getting cold in NorCal
[08:42] <shogran> i bet,,:D what part of argentina you from?
[08:42] <Violinista> Buenos Aires..
[08:43] <Violinista> the city of Tango..
[08:43] <stefg> PopeOfWar_Ubuntu: you dould run a 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' beforehand, if you haven't done so already
[08:43] <Violinista> You know the Tango music
[08:43] <Violinista> ??
[08:43] <shogran> ahhh  i see.. Yes i do like tango sometimes
[08:43] <^Ocean^> is there an easy way to set up Nvidia for TV out ?
[08:43] <Zolace_> Why doesn't Ubuntu sign you out of GAIM when you disconnect from the internet?
[08:43] <Zolace_> Can i fix that?
[08:43] <shogran> ocean i have exactly the same problem!
[08:43] <ClayG> Tanga? Violinista , no bachata?
[08:44] <Violinista> he?
[08:44] <PopeOfWar_Ubuntu> stefg: Ok, it's working its magic right now, lol
[08:44] <ArrenLex> Zolace: No. It's just how gaim handles the issue.
[08:44] <Zolace_> Grrr ok.
[08:44] <Zolace_> My Xchat didnt tell me either
[08:44] <Zolace_> Sigh
[08:44] <^Ocean^> shogran, well its no so much a problem, iv set it up before, im just lasy lol...   are you useing Xgl ?
[08:44] <shogran> just get broadband and you wont have to worry about it
[08:44] <Zolace_> I do have broadband :P
[08:44] <shogran> yea i have XGl
[08:44] <stefg> ^Ocean^: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings' will give you a configuration applet to do this in Applications -> System Tools
[08:45] <Zolace_> But my wireless disconnects every now and then
[08:45] <shogran> well keep it connected
[08:45] <PopeOfWar_Ubuntu> shogran: Yeah, seriously, lmao
[08:45] <ClayG> ladydoor, quick question ill ask here for the benefit of others.  The system logging, where can i read the log?
[08:45] <Zolace_> And so i sit there, wondering why people aren't talking to me on MSN
[08:45] <Zolace_> For about 20 mins
[08:45] <Zolace_> Then realise im not even signed in >.<
[08:45] <shogran> stop disconnecting..
[08:45] <Zolace_> I cant
[08:45] <ClayG> also anyone here have a dv2000? hp laptop?
[08:45] <Zolace_> It's my wireless :P
[08:45] <PopeOfWar_Ubuntu> Zolace_: That sounds like a personal problem, lmao
[08:45] <shogran> oh.. wowo.. you have wireless that sucks
[08:45] <Zolace_> Haha pope... :P
[08:45] <Violinista> i go to eat something ..bye
[08:46] <ladydoor> ClayG: i'm sorry, i don't know. i know that there's a dmesg command that gives you some kind of useful info, but you might check the man page for just what kind?
[08:46] <shogran> i have an Svideo plug
[08:46] <PopeOfWar_Ubuntu> stefg: The update's taking too long *ahhhh*
[08:46] <cpw> dmesg gives you the kernel messages
[08:46] <shogran> i already have nvidia settings,, how do run it?
[08:46] <cpw> nothing really else to it
[08:46] <ClayG> NO NOT MAN
[08:46] <ClayG> that requires reading, and thinking
[08:46] <edulix> i would like to install ubuntu using virtualization, so I can still be running my current linux (which is another ubuntu ;) ) while running the ubuntu installation in a window
[08:47] <stefg> PopeOfWar_Ubuntu: that explains why you can't install the nvidia-driver yer... you're not up to date (Pretty obvious if your box is only online for 10 minutes)
[08:47] <cpw> you can do like `dmesg | tail -n 10` to get the last ten messages
[08:47] <Sourcemage> Hi guys, I just installed Ubuntu and it's my first LINux distribution
[08:47] <Zolace> Eh oh
[08:47] <Zolace> lol
[08:47] <ArrenLex> Hi sourcemage.
[08:47] <Sourcemage> but i'm unable to find some help on how to install packages? = /
[08:47] <PopeOfWar_Ubuntu> *I will be right back* "System restart required" see you later!
[08:47] <shogran> Congratulations MAge dude!!1
[08:47] <edulix> does any virtualization software support doing that with ubuntu iso install cd..
[08:47] <Sourcemage> : D
[08:47] <ArrenLex> Zolace: if you want you can write a simple daemon that pings google every X amount of time, and if it ever can't connect, it warns you.
[08:47] <shogran> click applications, then clid add remove
[08:47] <Zolace> Oooo
[08:47] <Byan> how do I get mysql to bind on both eth0 and 127.0.0.1?
[08:47] <Zolace> I have no idea how to do that :D
[08:47] <edulix> ..using real partitions and not just installing it in files?
[08:47] <Byan> can I just get rid of it and it will bind on all?
[08:48] <shogran> there are two check markable things where it says show commercial and other shit
[08:48] <shogran> click em both
[08:48] <cpw> but alright :P
[08:48] <Zolace> Another thing arren, when i first sign into gaim, it cant send messages because of a problem with the switchboard... any ideas how to fix it?
[08:48] <ArrenLex> Zolace: I might be able to come up with something... not here, though. Do you have MSN or AIM or something?
[08:48] <Zolace> asher_francis__@hotmail.com
[08:48] <ArrenLex> Zolace: what version?
[08:48] <Zolace> Im using GAIm
[08:48] <Zolace> lol
[08:48] <Zolace> Ohhh
[08:48] <Zolace> Hang on
[08:49] <stefg> !enter
[08:49] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[08:49] <azza_001> hey i need help
[08:49] <shogran> k.. gotta go
[08:49] <azza_001> i cant get ubuntu online
[08:49] <ClayG> ok gang, here is an oddball request.  anyone here neat, and organized?
[08:49] <Zolace> Version 1.5.1
[08:49] <shogran> im kinda organized
[08:49] <pty> my work stuff is organised.  the rest is in piles
[08:49] <MaxL> I am considering buying and playing World Of Warcraft, does it work in Ubuntu/Wine?
[08:49] <Paddy_EIRE> azza_001: what way are you connected normally
[08:50] <shogran> why are you asking?
[08:50] <Ace_NoOne> hey there - using Ubuntu, can I have my laptop work as a repeater to strengthen the wireless signal in the house?
[08:50] <comrade_vik> hi, i have a macbook pro and i want to install ubuntu on an external hard drive
[08:50] <stefg> !games
[08:50] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[08:50] <ubuntu> hola hay por ay algun malagueo?
[08:50] <comrade_vik> is that possible
[08:50] <stefg> !es
[08:50] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:50] <azza_001> ethernet
[08:50] <ubuntu> ok perdon
[08:50] <Paddy_EIRE> azza_001: what is your isp
[08:50] <Byan> how do I allow another Host to connect to my mysql server?
[08:50] <azza_001> telstra bigpond
[08:50] <azza_001> australia
[08:51] <ClayG> does anyone use GNUcash !?
[08:51] <Paddy_EIRE> azza_001: how does this connect normally for you when you are using windoze, as in do yuo have to dial in with a user name and password
[08:52] <azza_001> no i just plug in the modem via ethernet and it works
[08:52] <azza_001> broadband
[08:52] <minerale> how do I mount a samba shared folder in ubuntu? I have another pc that's sharing a folder, I have installed samba but I'm not sure what to use to mount
[08:52] <ClayG> how hard is it to get pine?
[08:52] <stefg> !samba
[08:52] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:52] <Paddy_EIRE> azza_001: you see ubuntu should have connected straight away, when you try going online via the livecd is it the same problem
[08:53] <azza_001> do i need to restart it with it plugged in
[08:54] <rubikfreak> Somehow I was updating my machine and I did "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade", and aptitude deleted a ton of my packages, including xserver-xorg. How do I reinstall all the default packages?
[08:54] <ClayG> is there any reason to have kdm and gdm running? is that even possible?
[08:54] <Paddy_EIRE> azza_001: i wouldnt think so, put maybe as linux would have to know what services to start, try restarting with it plugged in
[08:54] <azza_001> ok ill be back
[08:54] <stefg> rubikfreak: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:54] <azza_001> brb
[08:54] <Paddy_EIRE> azza_001: wait
[08:54] <rubikfreak> ok
[08:54] <Sourcemage> Shogran what if the software i wanted to install isn't included in that Add/Remove gui?
[08:55] <Paddy_EIRE> azza_001: during the ubuntu installation if you have the modem plugged in it would set it up there and then normally, but do the restart anyway
[08:55] <shogran> then look for it ..
[08:55] <shogran> then ask somone how to get it
[08:55] <Ademan> how do you change where a link points to? and how can you tell if its a symlink or not?
[08:55] <shogran> if its an rpm use alien
[08:56] <shogran> well gotta go
[08:56] <shogran> figure it out buddy
[08:56] <rubikfreak> stefg: will that preserve my files? e.g. /home
[08:56] <stefg> rubikfreak: of course. it's just a metapackage which will have all the default packasges as dependencies
[08:57] <rubikfreak> ok, thanks :)
[08:57] <PopeOfWar> *I'm back!*
[08:57] <Paddy_EIRE> Hey guys I downloaded the "1.0.13_freespire.iso" using gwget and i know want to know if i can install it through ubuntu then choose it when comp boots as in dual boot.  you see I have no cds at the moment
[08:57] <ladydoor> Paddy_EIRE: yeah, you can do that if you have a free partition, i think
[08:57] <Sourcemage> darn : P
[08:57] <ladydoor> Paddy_EIRE: it'll involve chrooting into the new environment, though
[08:58] <zaggynl> anyone knows of a guide properly set up ALSA?
[08:58] <rubikfreak> stefg: it says that ubuntu-desktop is already the latest version
[08:58] <Dr_willis> Paddy_EIRE,  just install vmware server and toy with the image.. freespire is.. well.. not that impressive when i used it the other day
[08:58] <Dr_willis> :P
[08:58] <Paddy_EIRE> ladydoor: can I use qparted to create an extra partition out of the unused ext3 "root" partition that ubuntu is on??
[08:58] <PopeOfWar> stefg: I re-entered the nVidia driver install string, and it returned, "Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[08:58] <ross> any one know of any progams like Guitar Pro for ubuntu?
[08:58] <PopeOfWar> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[08:58] <PopeOfWar> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[08:58] <PopeOfWar> command:
[08:58] <PopeOfWar> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[08:58] <Dr_willis> Paddy_EIRE,  i guess you could set up vmware to boot  the .iso and install it.. but getting grub to boot it will be the harder part.
[08:58] <PopeOfWar> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[08:58] <PopeOfWar> from nv to nvidia."
[08:58] <stefg> rubikfreak: huh... then try sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[08:59] <rubikfreak> ok
[08:59] <zaggynl> !alsa
[08:59] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:59] <ladydoor> Paddy_EIRE: so long as it's not mounted right now.
[08:59] <ladydoor> !paste > PopeOfWar
[08:59] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: I wanted to try it to see if it was worth recommending to a non linux user
[08:59] <matjan> hi, i have a problem with my menus in gnome... i edited them this morning and suddenly the whole appilications menu is gone (i used smeg since i am still using breezy)... does anyone know how i can solve this problem?
[08:59] <PopeOfWar> ladydoor: Oh, sorry, lol.
[08:59] <rubikfreak> hmmm
[08:59] <ladydoor> PopeOfWar: no worries
[08:59] <ross> any one know of any programs like Guitar Pro for ubuntu?
[08:59] <BorD> sorry i was away
[08:59] <Paddy_EIRE> ladydoor: i guess that option is out the window
[09:00] <rubikfreak> stefg, it replaces the metapackage but no actual pacages that were lost get installed
[09:00] <BorD> i was looking in the forums and didnt see anything.  i usually just run vnc with fluxbox
[09:00] <ladydoor> Paddy_EIRE: :-(
[09:00] <Paddy_EIRE> ladydoor: I'd be better of being patient and waiting to get some cds
[09:00] <ladydoor> Paddy_EIRE: probably :-)
[09:00] <Paddy_EIRE> thx anyway
[09:00] <Dr_willis> Paddy_EIRE,  i dont think it is.  Its got some really odd.. features. :P
[09:00] <PopeOfWar> ladydoor: What should I do about my error, though? (The one I pasted above...)
[09:00] <stefg> PopeOfWar: might happen, no big deal. enter gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find the line wher it says 'Driver nv' and change the nv to nvidia... save it and restart your X by ctrl-alt-Backspace
[09:01] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: what like
[09:01] <PopeOfWar> stefg: Ok, thanks
[09:01] <Sourcemage> Do you guys have any recommendations on how to free up some ram with ubuntu and make things run faster?
[09:01] <ladydoor> PopeOfWar: i don't know. perhaps follow the directions and edit your xorg.conf? (i'm not being sarcastic--i mean it)
[09:01] <Sourcemage> like turning off effects, useless processes, startup programs etc
[09:01] <ladydoor> Sourcemage: use a lightweight window manager
[09:01] <rubikfreak> stefg?
[09:02] <stefg> rubikfreak: hmm.. then i'd sudo apt-get remove --purge ubuntu-desktop, and then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop again
[09:02] <rubikfreak> ok
[09:02] <Dr_willis> Paddy_EIRE,  the grub menu configs use some sort of 'include' dirrective.. the login manager seems to use the users .xinitrc file. not any session, if installin gother window managers. the loigin manager does NOT allow you to select them.
[09:02] <ladydoor> Sourcemage: use lightweight programs (swiftfox or a text-based browser instead of firefox, for example)
[09:02] <Dr_willis> Paddy_EIRE,  im still not sure if that 'click and run' is really any better then good old synaptic.
[09:02] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: sounds crap
[09:02] <Dr_willis> and lots of other 'why did they change this stuff'  changes
[09:02] <rubikfreak> ...
[09:03] <rubikfreak> the same thing happened
[09:03] <ladydoor> Sourcemage: avoid resource-hungry, graphical programs if you can
[09:03] <Enselic> Is there a way to make started applications appear in the workspace active when the startup command were executed instead of the workspace active when the app window pop ups?
[09:03] <stefg> rubikfreak: you apt-database seems corrupted
[09:03] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: they say its better suited to migrating windows users,... but ubuntu is my fav hands down
[09:03] <rubikfreak> how would I fix that?
[09:03] <Dr_willis> migrating window users ---> attempt a poor clone of XP.
[09:04] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah
[09:04] <Dr_willis> and lock out the real features of linux
[09:04] <Paddy_EIRE> by the sounds of it
[09:04] <stefg> rubikfreak: do you have X right now, or are you on console?
[09:04] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: how about opensuse 10.1
[09:04] <rubikfreak> i'm on console
[09:04] <Dr_willis> Paddy_EIRE,  i got a vmware image of that also. :P
[09:04] <Dr_willis> Paddy_EIRE,  gee.. wny not Ubuntu :)
[09:05] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: thats what im thinking, they can always have me for a bit of the old tech support
[09:05] <zaggynl> !dmix
[09:05] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:05] <zaggynl> great, those guides do -not- fix my problem at all
[09:05] <zaggynl> gg hardware mixing
[09:05] <paalu> where can i get more themes for dapper?
[09:06] <stefg> rubikfreak: hmm to get X again I'd try sudo apt-get install gnome-panel nautilus first, hopefully this will restore a usable gui first
[09:06] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: do you know of anyone who has the paid tech support for the home desktop of ubuntu, and is it a good service
[09:06] <Dr_willis> Paddy_EIRE,  I am my own tech support. :P
[09:06] <rubikfreak> alright, i'll try that
[09:06] <Dr_willis> and if the questions in here are any indication - most calls to tech support would be either utterly trivial, or totally impossible. :)
[09:07] <rubikfreak> it says that they already the newest version
[09:07] <rubikfreak> i'll try reconfiguring x
[09:07] <stefg> rubikfreak: good idea
[09:07] <MaxL> how hard is it to install WOW in ubuntu?
[09:07] <Sourcemage> when i try and uninstall some of the base games that came with ubuntu, why does it say ubuntu-desktop will be removed as well? = /
[09:07] <Lattyware> Hey all, I use uTorrent under wine, and I just had to do a reinstall of Ubuntu, and now It can't connect to any trackers (my connection is fine, as are the trackers) or DHT, etc...
[09:08] <stefg> rubikfreak: last thing you did was apt-get update and dist-upgrading?
[09:08] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: yeah me too, well gettin there thx to Freenode #ubuntu :). its just some of my mates are interested but wonder why they cant just put the cd that came with their cell in and start copying there pics, vids and music
[09:08] <rubikfreak> stefg, how do i restart x
[09:08] <tsv> ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:08] <rubikfreak> i remember it being init.g or something like that
[09:08] <stefg> rubikfreak: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:08] <rubikfreak> thanks
[09:08] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: if there is a method that i could learn on doing this then im sure they would have no excuses
[09:09] <^Ocean^> okay so i was running compiz/xgl  and couldint use nvidia-settings  so i booted into a X session with no Xgl or compiz running ( as far as i can tell )  How do i get my nvidia-settings application to work again ?
[09:09] <tsv> xgl don't have GL
[09:09] <tsv> and no direct rendering
[09:09] <rubikfreak> argh
[09:09] <^Ocean^> Im not in Xgl anymore tho
[09:09] <rubikfreak> it says it still couldn't work
[09:10] <rubikfreak> because there is no xserver-xorg, even though that is not true
[09:10] <rubikfreak> i just configured it
[09:10] <stefg> rubikfreak: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm ?
[09:10] <rubikfreak> i'll try that
[09:10] <rubikfreak> still same error
[09:11] <rubikfreak> i wouldn't mind reinstalling
[09:11] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: personally I could'nt be bothered with the mobile phone nonsense
[09:11] <rubikfreak> i put all the files i need on a certain partition.
[09:11] <stefg> rubikfreak: i tend to suggest that... that looks really screwed
[09:11] <sdubois92> Hello everyone
[09:12] <aeread> hey guys, ive got a WMV encoded avi, and i installed mplayer (i was told it would play wmvs out of the box) .. but it didnt play, and it looks like theres an error saying "win32 load library failed to load"
[09:12] <indyaner> abend
[09:12] <stefg> !w32codecs
[09:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:12] <MaxL> !games
[09:12] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[09:12] <aeread> thanks
[09:12] <Paddy_EIRE> !codecs
[09:12] <sdubois92> get a mac, haha
[09:13] <stefg> aeread: vlc will play it... even without w32codecs installed
[09:13] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> my xserver keeps on crashing
[09:13] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> any suggestions?
[09:13] <rubikfreak> just when i go to install from the live cd under partitioner, it wants to erase the whole drive. how do i get the "resize partition" like it used to have
[09:13] <Paddy_EIRE> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: I guess you installed xgl/compiz :P
[09:14] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Paddy: LOL. not at all.
[09:14] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i get fuzzy lines and the thing restarts
[09:14] <xgm> !winamp
[09:14] <ubotu> winamp is a windows music player. On Ubuntu you can use beep-media-player or xmms as alternative.
[09:14] <xgm> !skype
[09:14] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[09:14] <Paddy_EIRE> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: you decided against it
[09:14] <PopeOfWar> stefg: Well, the picture is a lot sharper... but the highest reso is still 1024x768
[09:14] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Paddy: Couldnt find how to install it!
[09:14] <Paddy_EIRE> good stuff it just aint ready
[09:14] <_tom_> xgm, you can have a private conversation with ubotu...
[09:14] <azza_002> hey
[09:14] <azza_002> paddy
[09:14] <aeread> stefg: ill try it thnx
[09:14] <zomfgs> hmm
[09:15] <stefg> rubikfreak: you don't need to resize no more, it's done already. go to manual partitioning
[09:15] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Paddy: how can i modify the startup message?
[09:15] <Paddy_EIRE> azza_002: any joy
[09:15] <rubikfreak> ok
[09:15] <azza_002> yeah it works but how do i install opera
[09:15] <zomfgs> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: Which startup message, precicely?
[09:15] <Paddy_EIRE> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: which startup message
[09:15] <stefg> !fixres > PopeOfWar
[09:15] <rubikfreak> but under manual partition, what do i select for the settings?
[09:15] <Ademan> is it possible in theory to, at any time during a program's execution, for that program to "go root" or gain administrative privileges?
[09:15] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> zomfgs: Loading essential drivers                OK
[09:15] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Mounting root file system                     OK
[09:15] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> this one
[09:15] <paalu> is it possible to change to bigger resolutions than 1024/768?
[09:15] <rubikfreak> i know which partition i want to format
[09:15] <azza_002> how do i install opera
[09:15] <Ademan> paalu: yeah, i run at 1600x1200
[09:15] <Paddy_EIRE> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: yeah you can but why would you want to
[09:16] <zomfgs> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: That's in the initrd, in /etc/init.d, iirc
[09:16] <stefg> !fixres
[09:16] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:16] <indyaner> paalu, of course
[09:16] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Paddy: i want to add it like matrix code
[09:16] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> instead of text, write out some 0s and 1s
[09:16] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> LOLZZZZZZZZZ
[09:16] <Paddy_EIRE> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: it keeps you informed when new services are added or have failed
[09:16] <azza_002> how do i install stuff on ubuntu
[09:16] <zomfgs> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: Find your initrd file, and mount it (remember to use '-o loop' to mount)
[09:16] <Paddy_EIRE> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: that would be cool
[09:16] <stefg> !install
[09:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:16] <zomfgs> azza_002: synaptic or apt-get
[09:17] <azza_002> what
[09:17] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Paddy: yup! my gf would like it :P
[09:17] <stefg> !software
[09:17] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[09:17] <azza_002> how do i get that
[09:17] <zomfgs> azza_002: At the bottom of the Applications menu, there should be an option that, in plain English, says "Add software" or something similar.
[09:17] <indyaner> Did yomeone hear&see a apt that acts like Mac OSX Volumecontrol (center icon with keaboardshortcut to turn up and down)?
[09:17] <azza_002> yeah i see that
[09:17] <zomfgs> azza_002: If you cannot figure out that that option installs software for you, you need your head examined
[09:17] <matjan> hi, i have a problem with my menus in gnome... i edited them this morning and suddenly the whole appilications menu is gone (i used smeg since i am still using breezy)... does anyone know how i can solve this problem?
[09:18] <azza_002> i cant find opera there that is the prob
[09:18] <Paddy_EIRE> azza_002: here is a really good wiki, although try and avoid "easyubuntu" and "automatix" http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[09:18] <stefg> !opera
[09:18] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[09:18] <zomfgs> Opera isn't in the official repositories
[09:18] <zomfgs> azza_002: Why do you want Opera?
[09:18] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> zomfgs: can u give the filename again?
[09:18] <azza_002> i just do ok
[09:18] <azza_002> ] i like it
[09:18] <skeff> hi! I was wondering what options do I have for doing a thorough check of my harddrive which can detect even physical errors? I experienced a crash once in Ubuntu where the harddrive seemed to go bananas.  After this incident everything on my harddrive was lost, and for some reason windows xp fails to install onto the drive, but linux doesn't complain. I had windows on it before the crash.
[09:18] <Paddy_EIRE> azza_002: firefox is the business
[09:18] <zomfgs> azza_002: Do you know how to use teh commandline?
[09:18] <stefg> !info badblocks
[09:18] <azza_002> \no
[09:18] <sethk> skeff, badblocks
[09:19] <ubotu> Package badblocks does not exist in any distro I know
[09:19] <zomfgs> azza_002: Then you can't be helped.
[09:19] <azza_002> y not
[09:19] <stefg> !info fsck
[09:19] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> zomfgs; Thef file please
[09:19] <azza_002> i just installed
[09:19] <ubotu> Package fsck does not exist in any distro I know
[09:19] <azza_002> it
[09:19] <zomfgs> azza_002: Well, you can, but it will confuse you
[09:19] <azza_002> ubuntu that is
[09:19] <azza_002> how can i install opera
[09:19] <zomfgs> azza_002: OK, I will *try* to help you. Please type in commands exactly as I give them to you.
[09:19] <azza_002> ok
[09:20] <zomfgs> Push alt+F2
[09:20] <skeff> sethk, ok.. thanks
[09:20] <stefg> azza_002: by reading the links people give you
[09:20] <Paddy_EIRE> azza_002: that wiki i gave you is the best i've seen yet,... although as i said avoid "easyubuntu" and "automatix"
[09:20] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Paddy: you there?
[09:20] <Paddy_EIRE> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: yep
[09:20] <cpw> !info e2fsprogs
[09:20] <rNIUS> hi
[09:20] <ubotu> e2fsprogs: ext2 file system utilities and libraries. In component main, is required. Version 1.38-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 263 kB, installed size 1408 kB
[09:20] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Paddy: gimme the filename. that init one
[09:20] <cpw> that should have it
[09:20] <Paddy_EIRE> oh yeah 1 sec
[09:20] <cpw> assuming you have an ext2/3 fs
[09:20] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> thanks :D
[09:21] <Paddy_EIRE> in /etc/init.d
[09:21] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok lemme try
[09:21] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> should i use this?s
[09:21] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> sudo gedit in /etc/init.d?
[09:21] <Paddy_EIRE> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: although I think it needs to be mounted or something I have no exp working with this file myself
[09:21] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> hmmmmmmm
[09:22] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> that means
[09:22] <Paddy_EIRE> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: gksudo
[09:22] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok lemme try
[09:22] <media_> Is the black/bronze Ubuntu splash on boot done via grub, or is it some other part of the kernel image?  I'd like to use a different image.  I changed the grub menu but I didn't notice any change and so I'm thinking it's part of the kernel boot.  Does anyone have a url or able to tell me what is controlling that so I can change it?
[09:22] <stefg> !usplash#
[09:22] <ubotu> usplash: Userspace bootsplash utility. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2-4 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 196 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 powerpc sparc ia64 hppa)
[09:22] <matjan> hi, i have a problem with my menus in gnome... i edited them this morning and suddenly the whole appilications menu is gone (i used smeg since i am still using breezy)... does anyone know how i can solve this problem?
[09:22] <txoof> I want to enable something in /etc/apache/mods-enabled  is it as simple as making a symbolic link to mods-enabled?
[09:23] <txoof> and then restarting apache, of course...
[09:23] <fdoving> txoof: yes, or use the command 'a2enmod modulename'
[09:23] <stefg> !usplash
[09:23] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[09:23] <txoof> fdoving: thanks. I'll read the man page.
[09:23] <rubikfreak> alright, forget it, I'm just going to do a complete format and reinstall
[09:24] <cbo> does someone know how to make a legacy midi joystick work with ubuntu?
[09:24] <lupine_85> plug it in
[09:25] <lupine_85> that should be about it
[09:25] <lupine_85> (assuming it's supported)
[09:25] <^Ocean^> Easy way to get TV out working on Nvidia ?
[09:26] <lupine_85> ^Ocean^: the nVidia X Server Settings tool will do it
[09:26] <skeff> sethk, crap... it seems the badblocks program quickly triggered the error I was afraid of.  dmesg says "ata1: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }" and "ata1: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/40 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0x3/11/04"  ... anything useful? Or somone else I can ask about this?
[09:26] <^Ocean^> lupine_85, nividia-settings ?
[09:26] <lupine_85> no idea what it's called - it's in my menu :)
[09:26] <Paddy_EIRE> !rp-pppoe
[09:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rp-pppoe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:27] <lupine_85> but yes, nvidia-settings it is
[09:27] <^Ocean^> yeah.. mine dont see the TV
[09:27] <stefg> !info pppoeconf
[09:27] <^Ocean^> see's my LCD display just fine
[09:27] <ubotu> pppoeconf: configures PPPoE/ADSL connections. In component main, is standard. Version 1.8ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 19 kB, installed size 308 kB
[09:27] <^Ocean^> but no TV listed
[09:27] <lupine_85> is it plugged in properly? ;)
[09:27] <H0lyD4wg> given the mysterious non-existence of /dev/scd0 , how should i mount the media in my DVD drive?
[09:27] <^Ocean^> yup lol
[09:27] <lupine_85> or maybe you need to add the details of the TV to the xorg.conf manually
[09:27] <lupine_85> unfortunately, I've never done that
[09:28] <^Ocean^> maybe my computer needs to reset because i turned on the TV after my computer wasturned on
[09:28] <lupine_85> tv out is crap quality at best :(
[09:28] <lupine_85> doubt that would be the problem
[09:28] <^Ocean^> yeah but its fine for movies lol
[09:28] <^Ocean^> lupine_85, well it was a problem back in the old days when i had TV out running, if my TV wasnt on first it wouldnt see it
[09:28] <FRET> hey all
[09:29] <Warbo> I think for TV out the cable must be connected and TV turned on at boot, otherwise the graphics card doesn't bother initialising it
[09:30] <MikeHawk> are you supposed to lose all of your settings, customizations, and installed apps when you upgrade to a new version of ubuntu?
[09:30] <PopeOfWar> Warbo: That shouldn't be true. There are many times where I would switch all my display out ports willy-nilly, and everything worked just fine. It depends on your drivers and how they're set up, really...
[09:31] <PopeOfWar> !enter > lupine_85
[09:31] <matjan> hi, i have a problem with my menus in gnome... i edited them this morning and suddenly the whole appilications menu is gone (i used smeg since i am still using breezy)... does anyone know how i can solve this problem?
[09:31] <Warbo> Well this is on ATI (that's what the guides said, I could never get it working)
[09:31] <lupine_85> ...?
[09:31] <lupine_85> this
[09:31] <lupine_85> is speaking with <enter>
[09:31] <lupine_85> as punctuation
[09:31] <lupine_85> note the
[09:31] <lupine_85> difference?
[09:32] <PopeOfWar> !enter > lupine_85
[09:32] <stefg> :-)
[09:32] <Warbo> MikeHawk: If you upgrade using a package manager then no, if you reinstall then yes (unless you keep /home on a seperate partition)
[09:32] <grouchytim> _tom_:  you aren't around and listening are you?
[09:32] <PopeOfWar> lmao
[09:32] <H0lyD4wg> (a more accurate description of my situation is that the hardware is all connected and powered-up and appears to be functional, but 'pmount cdrom' complains no files named /dev/scd? or /dev/cdrom exist)
[09:32] <MikeHawk> which package manager is there?
[09:32] <stefg> PopeOfWar: rather than being the thought police hrerein get your reso fixed :-)
[09:33] <lupine_85> :p
[09:33] <MikeHawk> Synaptics?
[09:33] <sethk> MikeHawk, dpkg
[09:33] <^Ocean^> hahaha Okay so i got TV out working till it starts X
[09:33] <sethk> MikeHawk, the debian package manager
[09:33] <^Ocean^> then TV out just stops working
[09:33] <Warbo> MikeHawk: Ubuntu uses "dpkg" to handle Debian packages, and "APT" as the main package manager. There are loads of GUIs for APT (update-manager, synaptic, adept, aptitude,etc.)
[09:33] <maccam94> I need to install mplayer without a connection to the internet. how do I generate a list of download links so the packages can be downloaded on another computer and then transferred?
[09:33] <^Ocean^> but i see the whole boot process and everything
[09:33] <PopeOfWar> stefg: I'm waiting for Preetpal_01114446 to give me information about my Monitor drivers...
[09:33] <Gide0n> hi chanel
[09:34] <Gide0n> good afternoon
[09:34] <Warbo> maccam94: Is the other computer Ubuntu?
[09:34] <MikeHawk> I used apt to install ktorrent, but I don't see ktorrent installed anymore
[09:34] <maccam94> Warbo: unfortunately no
[09:34] <stefg> PopeOfWar: what is it? CRT or LCD?
[09:34] <PopeOfWar> stefg: LCD
[09:34] <MikeHawk> I swear I saw the installer uninstall ktorrent during the upgrade
[09:34] <Gide0n> I have a quick question
[09:34] <Warbo> maccam94: Ah, since then you could copy the packages from /var/cache/apt/archives
[09:34] <Arrick> I have a situation where I am trying to setup a ubuntu server installation as a firewall on my home network, I have chosen to use fiaif to do this, and I was wondering if anyone here knows how to set something like this up, as I am still kind of lost with it. I am not using Dapper, I am using Breezy.
[09:34] <stefg> So what?.. 60 Hz and the native reso shouldn't be hard to tell
[09:34] <ladydoor> MikeHawk: do which ktorrent
[09:34] <PopeOfWar> stefg: Dell 2007WFP
[09:35] <Warbo> MikeHawk: Maybe it was incompatible for some reason (using an  older, conflicting library or something?)
[09:35] <ladydoor> MikeHawk: if it has no output, it's no longer installed and you need to reinstall it (sudo aptitude install ktorrent)
[09:35] <maccam94> It's a fresh install of 6.06, but it needs to be able to play divx movies. I need a list of download links so that mplayer and its dependencies can be downloaded and transferred
[09:35] <MrNaz> is there a gaim2 beta3 package for ubuntu yet? the 1.5 one is no longer compatible with MSN...
[09:35] <MikeHawk> sorry, I'm afraid I don't understand what you are saying ladydoor
[09:36] <norbert79> Evening
[09:36] <visik7> !restricted > maccam94
[09:36] <Gide0n> can I install kde on my already installed ubuntu, and have it ask me which one do I want to use when I log in?
[09:36] <txoof> any idea what package gd toolkit is in?  I can't for the life of me find it.
[09:36] <ladydoor> MikeHawk: it's just a command. do which ktorrent--"which" tells you the location of the binary.
[09:36] <kitche> MrNaz: nope there isn't a package but gaim 2 should be out soon
[09:36] <visik7> txoof: libgd ?
[09:36] <Sourcemage> After i've installed/uninstalled applications, do i have to do anything?
[09:36] <Arrick> jrib, you here today?
[09:36] <MrNaz> kitche: aah... cool
[09:36] <stefg> PopeOfWar: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg... check 1280x1024 in the process and tell that you have lcd (which needs always 60 Hz)... sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig afterwards to enable subpixel rendering.... that'll keep you busy long enough not to annoy people any more :-D
[09:37] <Sourcemage> I recall in the past it was smart to run a certain command or anything
[09:37] <ladydoor> MikeHawk: (i guess i should ask what, specifically, it is that you don't understand)
[09:37] <Warbo> maccam94: I suppose you could use packages.ubuntu.com (which lists dependencies of each package), but if you already have package lists downloaded for Universe/Multiverse then you could tell it to install in a terminal, copy the list then cancel it
[09:37] <PopeOfWar> stefg: the only selection right now is 75 Hz, lmao
[09:37] <txoof> visik7, thanyou!
[09:37] <stefg> PopeOfWar: doesn't matter... your LCD willeat that
[09:37] <Arrick> jrib, I recall you being the shiznit on breezy, figured I would ask for yoru help with my current project.
[09:37] <Warbo> Sourcemage: You might want to run "sudo apt-get clean" if you just did a really big update, since that will delete the temporary packages which were downloaded
[09:37] <^Ocean^> Any one get TVout working on X ?
[09:37] <new_to_ubutu> is there an easy way of using also KDE on my ubuntu without having to get rid of Gnome?
[09:38] <maccam94> visik7: the movies are divx, nothing can be done about that. if the computer was connected to the internet installing divx support would be a snap. but it's not. i need to generate a list of package download links so the files can be downloaded elsewhere
[09:38] <Warbo> new_to_ubutu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" then choose GNOME or KDE whenever you login
[09:38] <norbert79> new_to_ubutu: I think apt-get install kde works
[09:38] <Warbo> new_to_ubutu: WAIT
[09:38] <^Ocean^> It worked by Default when i turned my computer on, saw the whole boot process and everything was a clone of my real display,  then X windows starts and nothing is on the TV anymore.  If i hit ctrl+alt+f1 to goto the console, TV out works in the console...
[09:38] <Warbo> new_to_ubutu: use "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop"
[09:38] <new_to_ubutu> thank you
[09:38] <Arrick> new_to_ubutu, you can set it up as a alternate
[09:38] <teekay_`> yo
[09:39] <Thuryn> sup?
[09:39] <ziro01> Hello
[09:39] <sioux> some one of you knows xxx.net.cable.rogers.com
[09:39] <Warbo> aptitude will remember what kubuntu-desktop dragged in (which is a LOT) so if you remove it later you won't end up wil a system full of useless crap
[09:39] <MikeHawk> do which ktorrent is something I should type on installation, after installation (of ktorrent), or after upgrade of the OS?
[09:39] <tdog> hello everyone.. im new to linux .. and i installed my first linux,, :) need your help with permission setting
[09:39] <new_to_ubutu> Warbo: thank you very much
[09:39] <new_to_ubutu> Arrick, thank you
[09:39] <kitche> tdog what permission setting?
[09:39] <Thuryn> don't know
[09:39] <ziro01> dunno
[09:39] <teekay_`> ok
[09:39] <Arrick> yw
[09:40] <tdog> i have second partition and i need to copy  few files there but i have no permission to do so
[09:40] <BlueEagle> !lamp
[09:40] <visik7> maccam94: for example: "apt-get --print-uris install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly"
[09:40] <ubotu> offically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)
[09:40] <visik7> maccam94: you get a list of urls
[09:40] <Warbo> tdog: Can you use a terminal much?
[09:40] <tdog> not as much .. but i can follow instruction
[09:41] <Warbo> tdog: Well if you are really careful you can do it graphically with the command "gksudo nautilus --no-desktop"
[09:41] <Renan_s2> !info xlib6g
[09:41] <ubotu> Package xlib6g does not exist in any distro I know
[09:41] <tdog> ok i will give that commanad a try
[09:41] <Warbo> tdog: But on a command line you can use the commands "cp" and "mv" with sudo to give you super user permission
[09:41] <maccam94> visik7: thanks, so apt-get --print-uris install mplayer > downloads.txt would just save a list of download urls? if i want things like win32codecs can those just be manually done as well, or do i pass an option with the apt-get install mpalyer?
[09:42] <^Ocean^> It worked by Default when i turned my computer on, saw the whole boot process and everything was a clone of my real display,  then X windows starts and nothing is on the TV anymore.  If i hit ctrl+alt+f1 to goto the console, TV out works in the console... . After checking the Xort.0.log file I see that it see's the TV in the log file, yet still nothing happends,  and nvidia-settings wont see the TV either...
[09:42] <visik7> maccam94: w32codecs aren't in official repos
[09:42] <Warbo> nautilus probably the easiest way to go (close it afterwards, since you have the power to screw system!)
[09:42] <maccam94> visik7: oh duh, so it won't have that repository list by default and thus won't have urls
[09:42] <maccam94> k
[09:43] <tdog> hehe.. not working for me..
[09:43] <visik7> w32codecs are provided by seveas or plf repos
[09:43] <flamesro1k> can anyone reccommend a great camera for around $300US ?
[09:43] <tdog> i entered the gksudo nautilus  --no-desktop and i just get info on what stuff i have to use
[09:44] <ikonia> chaps - does anyone know how to make gnome xinerama aware - so it spreads the tool pannel and task bar across both monitors @
[09:44] <maccam94> visik7: i still don't have a net connection on the computer, so i'll just have to follow the download link from the package webpage
[09:44] <tyler_d> looking to set up my wireless internet.... how do I set the channel?
[09:45] <tdog> what is the correct permission that i can use in graphical mode to have access to my second partition ????
[09:45] <ournet> hello all
[09:45] <Warbo> tdog: What format is it?
[09:45] <ckknight> tyler_d, sudo iwconfig eth1 channel 6
[09:45] <tdog> it is NTFS
[09:45] <ournet> why there are no news on ubuntu.com about new ubuntu 6.10 realese?
[09:45] <Warbo> !ntfs
[09:45] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:45] <tdog> need to install window on second so i can use some programs
[09:46] <Warbo> NTFS has no write support by default (not particularly stable yet)
[09:46] <tyler_d> ckknight: tyvm
[09:46] <ckknight> Hey all. A miracle happened today. I installed Ubuntu, and shortly thereafter, I got both 3d acceleration (with ATI) and wireless networking to work. This has never happened before for me.
[09:46] <Warbo> ckknight: What ATI card?
[09:46] <kitche> tdog: well you would install windows first then linux since windows will kill the linux boot loader
[09:46] <ckknight> XPRESS 200M
[09:46] <tdog> humm, ALL I need to do is to copy a file , so when i install window , i can acess to those files ( drivers )
[09:46] <DieReptilianScum> I am having trouble burning a DVD with some music.... it says that it cant create the image file because not all of the files are UNICODE... is there any way of changing ALL of the files to unicode at once?
[09:46] <ournet>  why there are no news on ubuntu.com about new ubuntu 6.10 realese?
[09:47] <ikonia> has 6.10 been released ?
[09:47] <DieReptilianScum> anyone?
[09:47] <ournet> official?
[09:47] <ournet> i don't know
[09:47] <ckknight> DieReptilianScum: I think it's referring to the filenames
[09:47] <ikonia> probably not
[09:47] <ikonia> thats why there is no news
[09:47] <tdog> ohh. ok , i guess i will try the other way around
[09:47] <tdog> thanks..
[09:47] <DieReptilianScum> I know... but... can I change them all easily?
[09:47] <tdog> reinstalling everytrhing again
[09:47] <tdog> :(
[09:47] <ournet> ah
[09:47] <DieReptilianScum> or do i have to do it one at a tinme?
[09:47] <ournet> i understand
[09:47] <Warbo> DieReptilianScum: Try krename or something (it is probably complaining about :, <, >, etc.)
[09:47] <soundman89> I'm having a problem. with "GRUB" on my desktop....
[09:48] <tyler_d> ckknight: is there any way to see what networks are in range(wireless)?
[09:48] <ournet> the official version must realese in octomber/?
[09:48] <DieReptilianScum> KRENAME?
[09:48] <Warbo> 6.10=2006/10
[09:48] <DieReptilianScum> cool
[09:48] <Warbo> (in other words October)
[09:48] <soundman89> I have 3 hdd, 1 for windows, 1 for storage, and 1 for ubuntu
[09:48] <ckknight> tyler_d: gnome-network-manager
[09:48] <DieReptilianScum> can i get it through synaptic
[09:48] <kitche> ournet: yes edgy comes out in October
[09:48] <DieReptilianScum> ??
[09:48] <Warbo> !info krename
[09:48] <lakcaj> anyone want to do me a quick favor?  #blender took my voice away because I was idle for some time.  Could somebody join #blender and ask them to give me voice back?
[09:48] <ubotu> krename: Powerful batch renamer for KDE 3.x. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.9-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 295 kB, installed size 1188 kB
[09:48] <Warbo> yes, in Universe apparently
[09:48] <ournet> Warbo ;)
[09:49] <ournet> Warbo  thanks
[09:49] <DieReptilianScum> SWEET...
[09:49] <DieReptilianScum> thank you.
[09:49] <ournet> how to access local ip ?
[09:49] <Warbo> ournet: You want to know your IP address?
[09:49] <ckknight> localhost?
[09:49] <norbert79> 127.0.0.1?
[09:49] <ournet> yes
[09:49] <ournet> no
[09:49] <Warbo> "ifconfig"
[09:49] <ournet> i want to access local ip
[09:50] <ournet> 172.16.1.1
[09:50] <ournet> there are movies
[09:50] <ournet> i'm in lan
[09:50] <nearfar> I couldn't get bitlbee working. It uses inetd. but the server is not at all starting.
[09:50] <nearfar> anyone else using bitlbee?
[09:50] <adioe3> Hey, how to get the HP LaserJet 1020 working on Kubuntu 6.06????
[09:50] <soundman89> when i boot up, i get to the screen where my bios lists my PCI devices, verifies DMI pool data, then is "GRUB load stage 1.5.", then it just sets there...
[09:50] <Warbo> Anyone use Listen music player? I want to know if there are key combos for changing track (like Amarok's Super-B)
[09:50] <tdog> someone mentioned that i have to install winodw first then linux so i can have access to my linux loader ????
[09:50] <DieReptilianScum> how do I use KRENAME?
[09:51] <Warbo> DieReptilianScum: start it (run "krename") then add the files you want to rename, then give it certain rules (like find/replace ":" with "", etc.)
[09:51] <steveire> Is there a handy app to help me make simple html webpages?
[09:51] <ournet> please help me to understand this: before install ubuntu 6.06 i selected to erase entrie disk, but after install there a two partition with the same system information, and the second is unkown - have no information about it
[09:51] <DieReptilianScum> ok.... do I need to be in KDE to run it?
[09:52] <Warbo> steveire: nvu
[09:52] <Warbo> DieReptilianScum: no
[09:52] <DieReptilianScum> can I do it through GNOME?
[09:52] <DieReptilianScum> sweet
[09:52] <Warbo> DieReptilianScum: It can also drag/drop from Nautilus which is cool
[09:52] <kitche> ournet: one is swap which is probably the unknown
[09:52] <tdog> can someone talk to me ONE ON ONE for few seconds please
[09:52] <DieReptilianScum> I think I gotta restart for it to appear in the menu or something... where is it normally?
[09:52] <steveire> Warbo: The description looks promising, cheers
[09:53] <ournet> kitche and this unknown is needed that ubuntu work normaly?
[09:53] <ournet> or it's an error?
[09:53] <Warbo> DieReptilianScum: It isn't in the menu (unless you install "menu" which makes a sub-menu called "Debian" which lists EVERYTHING)
[09:53] <kitche> ournet: well it's not really needed but it's like the pagefile in windows
[09:53] <Lenny1729> Hi, is there a way to remove the MBR?
[09:53] <DieReptilianScum> called "MENU"?   in synaptic??
[09:53] <ournet> kitche better to keep it?
[09:53] <ladydoor> DieReptilianScum: yup.
[09:53] <Warbo> DieReptilianScum: Yes (it is used by Fluxbox and things)
[09:53] <DieReptilianScum> cool ... that all?
[09:53] <infomaster> hello, how i donload csm package for install xgl and compiz
[09:54] <infomaster> ??
[09:54] <tonyyarusso> Lenny1729: Yes, but what are you actually trying to do?
[09:54] <kitche> ournet: yea it acts like memory
[09:54] <tdog> is there CD burner for GNOME ??? Need to burn few DATA files to cd
[09:54] <Ashb> hey
[09:54] <Warbo> DieReptilianScum: There are actually 2 ways of running krename, it has a standard interface and a wizard. I haven't used the wizard, but it should be even easier than the regular one
[09:54] <Lenny1729> tonyyarusso: I want to get rid of grup and I want to install reactOS
[09:54] <kitche> tdog: yes there is think it's called bashburn
[09:54] <Lenny1729> err, grub
[09:54] <DieReptilianScum> cool
[09:55] <DieReptilianScum> I just gotta figure out how to run it.
[09:55] <Warbo> DieReptilianScum: Just use find/replace on any characters that DVD filesystems don't like (like :, < and >)
[09:55] <tdog> bashburn , sounds like shell program
[09:55] <xgm> How to run *.deb ?
[09:55] <xgm> install*
[09:55] <tdog> is there anything with graphical mode ?
[09:55] <Warbo> xgm: Double click on it
[09:55] <ournet> how to unistall programs?
[09:55] <DieReptilianScum> think i gotta restart....
[09:55] <DieReptilianScum> be back hopefully
[09:55] <tonyyarusso> Lenny1729: I haven't tried reactOS, but most things let you overwrite the MBR as part of their installation, so I'd just run the install disk and see.
[09:55] <Warbo> xgm: Or use "sudo dpkg -i fileanme.deb"
[09:55] <soundman89> can anybody help with "GRUB"?
[09:55] <Warbo> *filename
[09:55] <Lenny1729> thanks tonyyarusso
[09:55] <kitche> soundman89 what about GRUB
[09:56] <ournet> ok
[09:56] <ikonia> anyone know how to make gnome xinerama aware ?
[09:56] <ikonia> !xinearam
[09:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xinearam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:56] <ikonia> !xinerama
[09:56] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[09:56] <infomaster> hello, how i download csm package for install xgl and compiz?csm is dependecies of compiz-plugins but it isn't installable because don't find csm package
[09:56] <ournet> i'm goind to install now ubuntu
[09:56] <steveire> Warbo: Do you happen to know of any kde equivalent to nvu?
[09:56] <WilloW12345> hey can any one help me out with my broadcom wifi adapter
[09:56] <Warbo> Would Enlightenment0.16.8 count as a compositing window manager, because it has Composite extensions built in (like xcompmgr, not Compiz)? I am just thinking of adding to Wiki pages....
[09:57] <tdog> When i tried to install LInux on same HD with window , At one point linux asked to write something in the beggining or end of hard drive .. what was that . becuase i chose beggining and i damaged the installation
[09:57] <ournet> Wow
[09:57] <infomaster> WilloW12345 what is the problem?
[09:57] <ournet> there is an error.. could not find accel.cfg
[09:57] <ikonia> infomaster the topic in #ubuntu-xgl explains its broke
[09:57] <WilloW12345> tired ndis wrapper
[09:57] <ikonia> your not meant to do any new xgl/compiz installs
[09:57] <WilloW12345> and the bc43xx driver
[09:57] <ournet> while booting
[09:57] <ikonia> installs even
[09:57] <WilloW12345> but it wont enabel
[09:57] <ournet> :)))
[09:57] <Warbo> steveire: sorry no. Nvu is basically a GTK version of Mozilla Composer though, so if you prefer weird blue widgets to GTk then you can use that :)
[09:57] <ournet> :(
[09:57] <tonyyarusso> tdog: I'm guessing you're referring to the partition placement, but maybe not.  Are you saying Windows is gone completely pretty much?
[09:57] <eZe> uhoh tdn
[09:57] <eZe> uhoh tdog
[09:58] <infomaster> WilloW12345 ....   modprobe -r ndiswrapper      modprobe ndiswrapper
[09:58] <minerale> How can I tell if I have bluetooth on my notebook? This computer is 'bluetooth enabled', ie it has the controller for it, and something does show up in dmesg, but how can I tell if I have the actual bluetooth module ?
[09:58] <ournet> bye all
[09:58] <kitche> Warbo: E16 doesn't have composite support really
[09:58] <WilloW12345> ya i have done that many times
[09:58] <Warbo> minerale: If you don't have gnome-bluetooth then install that, and you should be able to test the bluetooth tools (like OBEX sharing)
[09:58] <WilloW12345> says the driver is loaded
[09:58] <tdog> no window is there. but i think was somthing about boot loader , im not sure
[09:59] <mikm> There's an IRC client for emacs?
[09:59] <Warbo> kitche: Composite as in translucency and shadows
[09:59] <mikm> Somehow, I'm nut surprised.
[09:59] <mikm> s/nut/not/
[09:59] <eZe> tdog: Did you partition your hard drive?
[09:59] <tdog> yes.
[09:59] <tdog> two partition , i intsalled window first
[09:59] <eZe> ah
[10:00] <kitche> Warbo: that's not really composite to be exact at least for e16
[10:00] <infomaster> WilloW12345 if you run "iwlist wlan0 scanning"
[10:00] <tdog> then tried to install linux on second partition
[10:00] <eZe> I went through the same thing tdog
[10:00] <tonyyarusso> How can I tell if http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=MIGR-42671 can have a wireless card installed or not?
[10:00] <eZe> You have to have a swap file tdog
[10:00] <matjan> hi, i have a problem with my menus in gnome... i edited them this morning and suddenly the whole appilications menu is gone (i used smeg since i am still using breezy)... does anyone know how i can solve this problem?
[10:00] <Sourcemage> I'm a web designer and was wondering if it's possible to install windows fonts under Ubuntu? I just did the install and don't know how = /
[10:00] <tdog> yes, i did creat swap file too
[10:00] <eZe> Did you do the automatic partition in ubuntu?
[10:01] <Renan_s2> Sourcemage, sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[10:01] <Renan_s2> !msttcorefonts
[10:01] <tdog> no manullly tried to partition
[10:01] <tonyyarusso> Sourcemage: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - the package is called msttcorefonts
[10:01] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[10:01] <Gevaudan82> Hello all...I see that I already have iptables on my system but where would I create a default ruleset for it to used...meaning, where should i put the file and tell iptables to use it? /etc/sysconfig/iptables shows nothing
[10:01] <Warbo> Well E16 in Universe (0.16.7) REALLY screws up if xcompmgr is run, but it includes it's own built-in one in 0.16.8 which is quite nice (especially in E-GNOME, where all of the windows menus and stuff have extra entries for opacity)
[10:01] <tdog> ok . i guess, i will start over again , by installing window first then linux
[10:01] <stefg> !firestarter
[10:01] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[10:01] <kitche> Gevaudan82: use firestarter it lets you configure iptables graphically
[10:01] <Gevaudan82> stefg: thanks but i'd prefer to manually enter the rules, at least for my purpose
[10:01] <MrNaz> I'm trying to install jEdit, which is available from its web site as a .deb ... as installation instructions they say you should add their server to your sources.list if you're a debian user... will that work in ubuntu as well or should i install from source? jedit is not in the ubuntu package list as far as i can tell
[10:02] <kitche> Gevaudan82: you have to enter the rules in the console
[10:02] <eZe> go back and install ubuntu, delete the partition...then allow ubuntu to automatically partition the space you have left tdog
[10:02] <sethk> MrNaz, no
[10:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Gevaudan82: guarddog is also a good firewall/iptable manager
[10:02] <Warbo> MrNaz: Do they have a line starting with "deb-src"?
[10:02] <sethk> MrNaz, not a good idea
[10:02] <ladydoor> MrNaz: they're not 100% compatable (ubuntu & debian). what you should do is install the source package they also offer
[10:02] <kitche> Gevaudan82: such as iptables blah blah blah
[10:02] <WilloW12345> wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning.
[10:02] <eZe> I had to do it several times tdog
[10:03] <eZe> You have to put windows on first, then ubuntu
[10:03] <Gevaudan82> kitche: i see i have access to a bunch of bins related to iptables in /sbin...however does this not create a file somewhere like in other distributions like redhat/fedora/etc?
[10:03] <ladydoor> MrNaz: somebody had a problem with that deb yesterday, but didn't notice there was a source download available on the page.
[10:03] <eZe> which you did tdog
[10:03] <Sourcemage> Renan_s2 it gave me an error
[10:03] <vjacob> hiya, is there a mac/powerpc related irc channel for ubuntu? i'm a first time user trying to get the cd booting with command+c
[10:03] <kitche> Gevaudan82: no redhat/fedora/etc don't make files either for iptables sicne iptables hides all rules in a database
[10:03] <Renan_s2> Sourcemage, what error?
[10:04] <eZe> My problem is I cant get my modem autodetected
[10:04] <WilloW12345> when i load ndiswrapper i still see eth1 in the networing config
[10:04] <MrNaz> Warbo: yes, i believe they do... its      deb-src http://dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/jedit ./
[10:04] <eZe> I got the scanmodem
[10:04] <DieReptilianScum> ok.... how do i add files to KFileRename.... to rename?
[10:04] <WilloW12345> if i do ifconfig i dont see wlan0
[10:04] <Gevaudan82> kitche: you sure about that? upon modifying /etc/sysconfig/iptables in those distros and restartinb iptables the rules are in fact applied
[10:04] <eZe> found my chipset
[10:04] <mabus> Hey... where can I find out where the save game files are stored for zsnes?
[10:04] <soundman89> problem with "GRUB", anybody help???
[10:04] <ladydoor> WilloW12345: sudo ndiswrapper -m?
[10:04] <Addit> How hard is it to set up caudium/php/mysql on Ubuntu?
[10:04] <eZe> Got the download for my modem
[10:04] <Jack_Sparrow> eZe: what type of modem.. dialup or dsl?
[10:04] <roham> I change the mouse-settings (laptop-touch) but still the mousepointer is really quick... whats wrong?
[10:04] <eZe> dial up Jack_Sparrow
[10:04] <DieReptilianScum> GRUB... whats you're problem?
[10:04] <WilloW12345> when i did lspci
[10:04] <MrNaz> ladydoor: yea, that was probably me... i installed from the deb, but whenever i tried starting it, it'd give me a waiting cursor for a bit, and then just quit heh
[10:04] <iLLf8d> hey all can someone tell me the vnc client of ubuntu choice?
[10:05] <Warbo> Source repos should be fine, if you do (I think) "sudo apt-get build-dep <packagename> && sudo apt-get source <packagename>" then build the source the regular ./configure, make, checkinstall way
[10:05] <Jack_Sparrow> eZe: Do you know what type it is?
[10:05] <ladydoor> MrNaz: oh, ok
[10:05] <Gevaudan82> iLLf8d: i like vino and that is what comes with ubuntu
[10:05] <eZe> PCTEL
[10:05] <eZe> Jack_Sparrow
[10:05] <iLLf8d> ok
[10:05] <iLLf8d> thanks
[10:05] <kitche> Gevaudan82: yes I m sure anyways iptables is built into the kernel but to actually setup iptables you will have to use the command line since that's how iptables is used
[10:05] <ladydoor> MrNaz: sorry
[10:05] <WilloW12345> Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
[10:05] <MrNaz> Warbo / ladydoor full into is here:   http://www.jedit.org/index.php?page=download   can i use the deb-src as an install source?
[10:05] <Gevaudan82> kitche: thank you
[10:05] <Jack_Sparrow> eZe: From terminal type    dmesg | grep ttyS
[10:05] <DieReptilianScum> WARBO.... please help.... How do I add or search for files to rename??
[10:05] <soundman89> i go to boot up, and i get stopped a GRUB error 21
[10:05] <Sourcemage> renan am i allowed to paste here?
[10:05] <Sourcemage> it's 5 lines
[10:05] <infomaster> WilloW12345 when you install driver whit ndiswrapper -i file.inf   the message is "hardware installed"??
[10:06] <Renan_s2> !paste
[10:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:06] <sethk> soundman89, that's a syntax error in the grub config file
[10:06] <WilloW12345> so i went to the bcm43xx driver
[10:06] <Renan_s2> Sourcemage, use the pastebin
[10:06] <WilloW12345> yes it did
[10:06] <roham> I change the mouse-settings (laptop-touch) but still the mousepointer is really quick... whats wrong?
[10:06] <ladydoor> MrNaz: seriously, what's wrong with downloading the source?
[10:06] <eZe> Thank you so much Jack_Sparrow!
[10:06] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[10:06] <eZe> Is that all I have to do?
[10:06] <Warbo> MrNaz: If you add a deb-src line to your lists then it will let you download source packages which you will then need to compile (since you are compiling them yourself they will work on Ubuntu fine). I think the commands I posted above will do it (after you have added it as a source)
[10:06] <Jack_Sparrow> eZe: more to do..
[10:06] <hcatlin> Anybody else having issues with UIM on edgy upgrade?
[10:06] <eZe> ok
[10:06] <MrNaz> ladydoor: nothing... i just prefer to add and remove stuff with apt where possible
[10:07] <Jack_Sparrow> eZe: Did you find your modem in the list
[10:07] <Warbo> MrNaz: Use checkinstall then :)
[10:07] <iLLf8d> Gevaudan82, wierd its not showing up in the installer gui
[10:07] <ladydoor> MrNaz: oh, ok
[10:07] <eZe> Jack_Sparrow: Yes i did
[10:07] <iLLf8d> Gevaudan82, although it does show in an apt-cache search
[10:07] <Jack_Sparrow> eZe: what port?
[10:07] <eZe> Ive placed it on my desktop of ubuntu
[10:07] <DieReptilianScum> ANYONE...... How do I search for files with KFileRename????
[10:07] <vjacob> mac users?
[10:07] <eZe> That I dont know Jaak_
[10:07] <eZe> crap
[10:07] <Warbo> DieReptilianScum: You drag them into the first tab
[10:07] <Jack_Sparrow> eZe: tty what number
[10:08] <DieReptilianScum> I tried.... didn't work man...
[10:08] <DieReptilianScum> can u do it through KRename?
[10:08] <iLLf8d> ah its the server not the client
[10:08] <Jaak_> eZe, ?
[10:08] <Warbo> DieReptilianScum: The click "Click here to add files" and se;ect all of the ones you want (drag a box or something)
[10:08] <ladydoor> hcatlin: edgy's a devolopment release. ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:08] <iLLf8d> can someone recommend a decent vnc client in ubuntu?
[10:08] <Warbo> *then
[10:08] <iLLf8d> gdesktop maybe?
[10:08] <DieReptilianScum> It's GRAYd out man..
[10:09] <Gevaudan82> iLLf8d: vino if you want to restore to whatever the logged in user sees...tightvnc if you want sessions...personally i find using sessions causing more problems than it's worth
[10:09] <Warbo> for me it is a link in the first tab saying "Please add some files..."
[10:09] <iLLf8d> Gevaudan82, I'm just looking for something stable I can connect to my osx box with
[10:10] <iLLf8d> with lower overhead
[10:10] <DieReptilianScum> harsh man...
[10:10] <soundman89> any helo with GRUB error 21?
[10:10] <DieReptilianScum> I just get searching options... i can't searsh though...
[10:10] <Jack_Sparrow> eZe: Did you find the ttyS number?
[10:10] <linuchsan> iLLf8d:vino
[10:10] <WilloW12345> with the bcm43xx driver i get this in dmesg [ 6138.063354]  ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready
[10:10] <iLLf8d> thanks for the input ppls
[10:11] <xudaowei> hello every one~!
[10:11] <Jack_Sparrow> WilloW12345: Good link for that card is  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[10:11] <Sourcemage> renan: here it is, sorry I took so long the pastebin server was slow, http://pastebin.com/793585
[10:11] <ryanakca> why do I get "There was an error initializing the audio I/O layer. You will not be able to play or record audio. Error: Host error." when opening Audacity?
[10:11] <Jaak__> is there a power management tool for laptops?
[10:11] <WilloW12345> yes read tha jack
[10:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !powernowd
[10:11] <ubotu> powernowd: control cpu speed and voltage using 2.6 kernel interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 116 kB
[10:12] <linuchsan> xudaowei:hello
[10:12] <JamieBE> Hello everyone, I have a .jar file on my Ubuntu desktop of a program I want to add to the quick launch menu. What would be the command with "java" to execute a .jar file?
[10:12] <Renan_s2> JamieBE, java -jar 'file.jar'
[10:12] <Gevaudan82> Jaak__: acpi on laptops and in general is very buggy
[10:13] <JamieBE> That did the job nicely Renan_s2 - Thank you for your help.
[10:13] <JamieBE> Bye everyone
[10:13] <iLLf8d> linuchsan, does vino have a client also? the descriptions showing server and it looks all cl controls since its not showin in my guified menu
[10:13] <xudaowei> he he, I install the Ubuntu yet
[10:13] <soundman89> any help with GRUB errors???
[10:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Jaak_: I guess that was all eZe needed?
[10:14] <Renan_s2> Sourcemage, strange, I've never seen this error
[10:14] <iLLf8d> linuchsan, in the past I've used vnc or tightvnc doesn't matter to me really tho
[10:14] <xudaowei> i'm chinese.
[10:14] <Sourcemage> should i try searching through the add/remove gui and try from there?
[10:14] <Jaak_> Jack, guess so!?
[10:14] <linuchsan> iLLf8d:oeps, vino is a server
[10:15] <iLLf8d> linuchsan, yeah I need a client
[10:15] <Gevaudan82> iLLf8d: use the tightvnc client...it works with it find and supports multiple compression levels
[10:15] <Arrick> I have a situation where I am trying to setup a ubuntu server installation as a firewall on my home network, I have chosen to use fiaif to do this, and I was wondering if anyone here knows how to set something like this up, as I am still kind of lost with it. I am not using Dapper, I am using Breezy.
[10:15] <DieReptilianScum> DOES ANYONE KNOW.... can you burn a DVD without renaming all of the files to unicode???
[10:15] <xudaowei> how can i change my name in chatroom?
[10:15] <jrib> xudaowei: /nick name
[10:16] <Arrick> jrib, nice to see you, you going to be here long?
[10:16] <SonicChao> !caps
[10:16] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:16] <DieReptilianScum> anyone???
[10:16] <Warbo> Oops, sorry I was away
[10:16] <Sourcemage> xudaowei do you mean permanetly? to join certain rooms you're going to need to register the name
[10:16] <xudaowei> thank you JRIB~
[10:16] <DieReptilianScum> OH?
[10:16] <Warbo> DieReptilianScum: You can make a Tar of them
[10:16] <ronnylinux> i got this error, does anybody can help me: The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[10:16] <DieReptilianScum> Tar?
[10:16] <jrib> Arrick: hi, I'll probably be in and out for a while
[10:16] <DieReptilianScum> like a RAR?
[10:16] <Arrick> you know much about fiaif jrib ?
[10:17] <Warbo> Tar as in Tape ARchive (like tar.gz files)
[10:17] <jrib> Arrick: I know nothing about it, sorry
[10:17] <Arrick> ok
[10:17] <DieReptilianScum> cool.
[10:17] <jrib> ronnylinux: have you tried running 'apt-get update'?
[10:17] <linuchsan> iLLf8d:what is the problem with the vnc client?
[10:17] <tonyyarusso> Can someone recommend a wireless card for a desktop that will work well in Ubuntu (<$30)?
[10:17] <jrib> ronnylinux: make that 'sudo apt-get update'
[10:17] <Warbo> the reason tar is used on Linux is because it can store all filenames, owners, groups, etc. of files which Zip and Rar and things can't
[10:17] <DieReptilianScum> cool man....
[10:17] <Arrick> jrib, for it being an open source linux firewall software, I sure cant find anyone that knows much about it
[10:17] <ronnylinux> i did that, the problem continue
[10:17] <Gevaudan82> ^^^^ and permissions
[10:17] <DieReptilianScum> Im such a NOOB but.......
[10:17] <zer0efx> I'm having a hard time logging into root, is there a certain way to go about that?
[10:17] <jrib> tonyyarusso: do you know about the wireless card support docs on the wiki too?
[10:18] <lupine_85> tonyyarusso: anything based on an ralink chipset is good - especially in edgy onwards
[10:18] <DieReptilianScum> how do I do that?
[10:18] <Warbo> obviously a tarball would have to be extracted before you can use what's in it htoughj
[10:18] <Samuli^> zer0efx, passwd root
[10:18] <DieReptilianScum> thats OK
[10:18] <Jack_Sparrow> ronnylinux: have you changed your sources or run any scripts like the (Horrible) automatix
[10:18] <lupine_85> otherwise, zd1211 cards work well
[10:18] <eZe> Are you still available Jack_Sparrow?
[10:18] <iLLf8d> linuchsan, no problem just not sure whats the "politically correct" one to use in ubuntu I've round xvncviewer installed will try it
[10:18] <Jack_Sparrow> ye
[10:18] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[10:18] <tonyyarusso> jrib: Yeah, I'm looking through those, although they're better targeted as "here's what you have, will it work?" than "I want to get one, what's best?"
[10:18] <zer0efx> Samuli^: is that the default password?
[10:18] <Samuli^> zer0efx, although the usual warnings are valid. Basically you shouldn't
[10:18] <eZe> My apologies, I was dissconnected Jack_Sparrow
[10:18] <Warbo> DieReptilianScum: in Nautilus select all of the files you want in it, then right click>Create archive (only make .tar, not .tar.gz or something because compressing such a huge amount of data would be agonisingly slow)
[10:18] <Jack_Sparrow> eZe: Did you find the ttyS number?
[10:18] <tonyyarusso> lupine_85: What changed with edgy?
[10:19] <ronnylinux> jack_saparrow i removed the automatix
[10:19] <Arrick> jrib, if I wanted to run  breezy box as a hardware firewall between my network and the internet, how would you suggest I go about it? (without a gui, it makes it too slow) thougth I do have a faster comptuer for it now, 500mhz 512RAM
[10:19] <iLLf8d> linuchsan, i've tried all ofem over the years just looking for the ubuntu one =P
[10:19] <eZe> I wrote down what you said to type in command
[10:19] <Arrick> tonyyarusso, ow goes it, long time no see
[10:19] <jrib> Arrick: have you seen the article on debian-adminstration?
[10:19] <lupine_85> they incorporated more, and better, drivers for wireess
[10:19] <lupine_85> wireless*
[10:19] <DieReptilianScum> where is NAUTILUS?
[10:19] <zer0efx> Samuli^: true, but i need to install a RPM so I can install the drivers for my sound card
[10:19] <eZe> You asked what port for my modem or something Jack_Sparrow?
[10:19] <DieReptilianScum> please.
[10:19] <jrib> DieReptilianScum: it is the file manager in GNOME
[10:19] <Samuli^> zer0efx, no, it let's you select root password. But, really, unless you have good reason to login as root, dont.
[10:19] <jrib> DieReptilianScum: for example, going to places > home will open it
[10:19] <Arrick> I think you pointed me that way yesterday didnt you?
[10:19] <Arrick> jrib, ^
[10:19] <tonyyarusso> Arrick: Not bad.  Pondering buying a spare computer and wondering about some components.
[10:20] <Warbo> DieReptilianScum: Nautilus is GNOME's regular file manager (as in, click on Places>Home and you are in Nautilus)
[10:20] <Jack_Sparrow> eZe: the command I gave you should have identified the ttyS Number of your modem
[10:20] <niruana> how do i connect to a ssh connection true the terminal?
[10:20] <jrib> Arrick: someone else did, but that looks like the basic procedure
[10:20] <DieReptilianScum> cool
[10:20] <Warbo> (well, even the desktop is part of Nuatilus....)
[10:20] <Warbo> *Nautilus
[10:20] <Arrick> tonyyarusso, got one here you can buy, what you looking for?
[10:20] <DieReptilianScum> there is options in there for archiving?
[10:20] <Samuli^> zer0efx, you can make rpm to deb by alien, but you should just take the source code and compile it.
[10:20] <linuchsan> iLLf8d:you mean gnome-rdp!
[10:20] <eZe> So I then select that port and try autodetect then Jack_Sparrow?
[10:20] <Warbo> DieReptilianScum: yes
[10:20] <tonyyarusso> Arrick: Something decently spec'd but under $150.
[10:20] <Jack_Sparrow> eZe: ONe step at a time..  the number?
[10:20] <Zolace> Meh. Im bored. Bash here i come
[10:20] <Arrick> what specs you looking for?
[10:20] <Warbo> in a file manager window select all of the files you want to archive, then right click and go "Create Archjive"
[10:21] <Zolace> ARGH no /list command
[10:21] <omar> hello
[10:21] <niruana> how do i connect from a ubuntu terminal to a debian server?
[10:21] <eZe> I dont know Jack_Sparrow
[10:21] <iLLf8d> linuchsan, no seems the only vncviewer I see installed is xvncviewer (wheres gnome-rdp)?
[10:21] <Arrick> tonyyarusso, ^
[10:21] <eZe> I havent yet ran the command in ubuntu
[10:21] <Jack_Sparrow> eZe: From terminal type    dmesg | grep ttyS
[10:21] <ronnylinux>  i got this error, does anybody can help me: The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[10:21] <niruana> i know how to do it in the terminal
[10:21] <zer0efx> thanks Samuli^
[10:21] <Arrick> gnomefreak, this must be reunion day, all my old friends coming back to see me?
[10:21] <roham> I change the mouse-settings (laptop-touch) but still the mousepointer is really quick... whats wrong?
[10:21] <niruana> uhm in putty i mean
[10:21] <eZe> Ok sorry...doing that now Jack_Sparrow
[10:21] <linuchsan> iLLf8d:apt-get install gnome-rdp
[10:21] <niruana> !ssl
[10:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ssl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <roham> and where can I get gdesklets...
[10:21] <roham> ?
[10:21] <gnomefreak> hi Arrick
[10:21] <dantrag> can someone help me please? two of the shortcuts to my partitions dissapeared and i can't get them back even though the drives are mounted
[10:21] <tonyyarusso> Arrick: At least 256MB RAM, 512 preferred, >1GHz processor, >20G hard drive or so.
[10:21] <DieReptilianScum> and the TAR file will burn easily right?
[10:21] <Arrick> niruana, !ssh
[10:22] <niruana> oeps yes Arrick
[10:22] <Jack_Sparrow> eZe: Look for your modem and the ttyS Number next to it
[10:22] <tonyyarusso> !gdesklets
[10:22] <ubotu> gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness. Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[10:22] <jrib> roham: gdesklets is in the universe repository.  Use synaptic to isntall them after enabling the universe repository
[10:22] <Longmo> My english is poor.
[10:22] <manopulus> hello, i want to record 4-hours of internet radion stream to mp3 (or ogg or at least wav). i have lame, sox, mpg123, xmms, mplayer, how i cah record the stream?
[10:22] <jrib> ubotu: tell roham about universe
[10:22] <niruana> so how do i connect from a ubuntu terminal to a text debian ?
[10:22] <Arrick> hang on
[10:22] <roham> that site dosnt work :(
[10:22] <kitche> manopulus: use stream ripper
[10:22] <Warbo> dantrag: You can just use something like "ln -s /path/to/drives/mount/point /path/to/shortcut" to make a link....
[10:22] <omar> ronnylinux:oe
[10:22] <eyequeue> niruana, ssh
[10:22] <Arrick> how do I get the specs of a system in terminal in breezy?
[10:22] <ronnylinux> habla omar en que andas
[10:22] <jrib> roham: you don't need the site
[10:22] <jrib> Arrick: lshw
[10:23] <niruana> yes eyequeue  but whats to command to enter in the terminal?
[10:23] <Arrick> thanks
[10:23] <ronnylinux> algunos huevones hablando de iconos, cojudeces
[10:23] <niruana> *the
[10:23] <jrib> !es
[10:23] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:23] <MrNaz> ok i'm still having trouble with jEdit... i've downloaded the source and have unpacked it, but the usual ./configure && make && make install   isnt working coz there's no configure or makefiles... i cant find instructions on the web site for building from source, and am now stumped. if you havent figured out yet, i'm a bit of a noob, having movied from windows desktop to linux desktop 24 hours ago.
[10:23] <roham> jrib: u mean I use synaptic?
[10:23] <dantrag> Warbo: how do imake it look like they originally did tho? i had 4, now there are only 2 on my desktop
[10:23] <omar> ronnylinux: no ofendas ronnylinux, no has leido las reglas
[10:23] <jrib> roham: right
[10:23] <Warbo> DieReptilianScum: Just don't call the TAR "My:Weird:Name<Just:To:Confuse:The:DVD>" or something :)
[10:23] <eyequeue> niruana, ssh remotehost
[10:23] <Warbo> MrNaz: I am guessing it's Java?
[10:23] <DieReptilianScum> ok  . I can rename it after though right?
[10:24] <Longmo> bye~ every one~!
[10:24] <DieReptilianScum> cause I alredy started...
[10:24] <DieReptilianScum> oops
[10:24] <DieReptilianScum> lolz
[10:24] <CzarAlex> my /var/www/webalizer dir is empty, do i need to do more than just sudo apt-get install webalizer ?
[10:24] <Warbo> DieReptilianScum: Yes. Just don't use non-unicode characters in the TAR's name
[10:24] <eZe> I entered the command Jack_Sparrow but I havent noticed any acttion
[10:24] <Arrick> tonyyarusso, all but the processor I ave
[10:24] <niruana> thx eyequeue
[10:24] <DieReptilianScum> cool..... THANK YOU so much man...
[10:24] <eZe> Do I need to go to networking?
[10:24] <eyequeue> niruana, bp
[10:24] <Warbo> keep to letters, numbers and spaces
[10:24] <ronnylinux> you are totally roght omar, but i tried and no body can help me
[10:24] <DieReptilianScum> Im a NOOB but i'll learn.
[10:24] <roham> jrib: but cant find nothing... like "starterbar"
[10:24] <jrib> roham: have you installed gdesklets?
[10:24] <Khamael> what is the difference between xgl and AIGLX?
[10:24] <jrib> !xgl
[10:24] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:24] <omar> ronnylinux: What do you need ronnylinux
[10:24] <Jack_Sparrow> eZe: Where did you type it?
[10:25] <eyequeue> Khamael, #ubuntu-xgl
[10:25] <eZe> In the terminal Jack_Sparrow
[10:25] <roham> jrib: no cant find it in synaptic
[10:25] <tonyyarusso> Arrick: Possibly intriguing.  Feel free to link to, e-mail, or ##tonyyarusso details and/or pics and I'll add it to those I'm considering.
[10:25] <jrib> roham: have you enabled universe?
[10:25] <kitche> MrNaz: umm you downloaded the source right?
[10:25] <MrNaz> Warbo: it is... so is the procedure different? i have installed Sun's JVM already if you're asking that
[10:25] <Jack_Sparrow> eZe: You typed  dmesg | grep ttyS   in a terminal and got nothing?
[10:25] <Warbo> Khamael: AiGLX depends on a certain feature that some proprietary graphics card drivers don't use (I think only ATI at the moment), but XGL will work on any driver (just not as well as AiGLX)
[10:25] <MrNaz> kitche: yes i did
[10:25] <roham> jrib: dont think so..
[10:25] <kitche> Mrnaz: you need JSDK to compile it
[10:25] <eZe> dmesg (space) | (space) grep (space) ttys
[10:26] <Arrick> tonyyarusso, nothing much to look at, ill give you the specs
[10:26] <eZe> I didnt see anything jack
[10:26] <Khamael> Warbo: so AIGLX is better?
[10:26] <Warbo> MrNaz: Well I was just thinking that if there is a file ending in ".jar" then you can run it simply with "java -jar filename.jar"
[10:26] <MrNaz> kitche: oh poo... more build work
[10:26] <jrib> roham: you'll need to enable universe to install gdesklets (check your private messages from ubotu for instructions)
[10:26] <Warbo> Khamael: I think so
[10:26] <kitche> MrNaz: the Java Developer kit
[10:26] <MrNaz> Warbo: i'll have a look
[10:26] <Jack_Sparrow> eZe: What key did you use between dmesg and grep?
[10:26] <roham> ok
[10:26] <roham> thx
[10:26] <MrNaz> kitche: yea... ok i'll get that
[10:26] <Warbo> Khamael: It only realy works well with Free 3D drivers though (and there aren't many of those)
[10:26] <mabus> Okay, if you have apache, what are safe permissions/owners to have for your files in /var/www ?
[10:26] <kitche> MrNaZ: why didn't you download the java installer?
[10:27] <eZe> the key next to the back space Jack_Sparrow
[10:27] <eZe> Ocourse I had to shift it
[10:27] <Khamael> Warbo: heard that nvidia now supports AIGLX
[10:27] <EkUmBa> is there a  download speed difference between azureus and ktorrent?...azureus makes my system very slow
[10:27] <Jack_Sparrow> eZe: It should have returned something?
[10:27] <eZe> Let me try again
[10:27] <jrib> EkUmBa: there shouldn't be
[10:27] <mabus> EkUmBa: Different in speeds of operation, sure. Not *really* for downloads.
[10:27] <MrNaz> kitche: oh... i can do that? i thought i could only download .deb files for auto installation
[10:28] <eZe> I have the modem I got off the list placed on my ubuntu desktop Jack_Sparrow
[10:28] <EkUmBa> operation?what thas that mean?
[10:28] <eZe> Is that ok?
[10:28] <kitche> Khamael: it doesn't support AIGLX
[10:28] <Warbo> I heard that Nvidia no longer even NEEDS AiGLX, you can just use Compiz from a regular X
[10:28] <Jack_Sparrow> jrib: why would eZe not get anything after typing  dmesg | grep ttyS in a terminal?
[10:28] <Warbo> (but only with Xorg7.1, which isn't in Dapper)
[10:28] <kitche> Warbo: that's what AIGLX is
[10:28] <eyequeue> Warbo, #ubuntu-xgl
[10:28] <MrNaz> kitche: oh sweet! i didnt know i could use that, but now that i read the download page i dont know why i skipped it... grr for stupid me
[10:28] <jrib> Jack_Sparrow: ?
[10:29] <kitche> Warbo: AIGLX is Xorg 7.1 it's built in
[10:29] <Jack_Sparrow> eZe: WHat list gave you the modem?
[10:29] <Warbo> kitche: But you don't need to use it to get 3D desktop with Nvidia
[10:29] <Warbo> eyequeue: One more comment......
[10:29] <kitche> Warbo: yes you do
[10:29] <secleinteer> does rhythmbox let you copy music from your ipod back to your computer?
[10:29] <Warbo> I hate Compiz
[10:29] <linuchsan> mabus:that depends
[10:29] <Warbo> eyequeue: OK, I'm done :)
[10:29] <EkUmBa> so ktorrent is in speed the samelike azureus,just azureus is more slowly as asoftware?
[10:29] <eipihipl> what's a codepage? (mount)
[10:30] <eZe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24544
[10:30] <kitche> Warbo: since right now Nvidia only supports XGL for 3d destktop that looks nice at least
[10:30] <eipihipl> "*mount -o umask=000 -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /S" is unsuccessed
[10:30] <eZe> Thats where I pasted my scanmodem chipset info Jack_Sparrow
[10:30] <eZe> under !paste
[10:30] <forevertheuni_> !paste
[10:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:30] <lupine_85> sudo mount, surely
[10:30] <lupine_85> and you don't really want a umask of 000
[10:30] <Jack_Sparrow> eZe Looking ow...  wanted to know what port it was using...
[10:30] <Arrick> tonyyarusso, really the last line of whT i pasted is the important stuff
[10:31] <eZe> I dont know where to find that Jack_Sparrow
[10:31] <eipihipl> lupine_85: i'm root. the owner=user won't work either
[10:31] <Warbo> kitche: http://linuxrevolution.blogspot.com/index.html (second post down)
[10:31] <omar> ronnylinux: ronnylinux, sorry to be unconcious, but if you give more of this: http://www.kde-look.org/, to your sister, she would be happy even though she cannpt nudggle
[10:31] <eZe> ModemData.txt....? Jack_Sparrow?
[10:31] <mikm> eZe, /msg him?
[10:31] <Jack_Sparrow> eZe.. never mind.. you have a usb Winmodem...
[10:31] <lupine_85> yes, but do you realy want default permissions of 777 on every file you create?
[10:31] <secleinteer> does rhythmbox let you copy music from your ipod back to your computer?
[10:31] <omar> ronnylinux: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=40273
[10:31] <forevertheuni_> guys can you check http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24708
[10:32] <eZe> I have a pci winmodem jack
[10:32] <tonyyarusso> Arrick: All right, I'll save that and get back to you.  Thanks.  (btw, any idea on shipping if I were to get it?)  What do you think you'd be asking for it?
[10:32] <eZe> Jack_Sparrow
[10:32] <forevertheuni_> my apt-get -f install doesn't solve problems
[10:32] <forevertheuni_> (the workings about locales only exist because I changed my $LANG)
[10:32] <kitche> Warbo: just so you know the person that made that post is an idiot since aiglx or XGL is needed to run compiz
[10:33] <Dr_willis> Hmm...
[10:33] <Warbo> kitche: I'll be in #ubuntu-xgl if you want to carry on
[10:33] <Jack_Sparrow> eZe readin that info now
[10:34] <Arrick> tonyyarusso, tell me in there your zip code, and Ill get you a price,
[10:34] <ronnylinux> omar i didn't solve the problem, someone is helping me in kubuntu-es but i don't know what more can i do
[10:34] <forevertheuni_> I can't install anything because of that error :(
[10:34] <Ashb> hey can some1 pm and help me install KDM on ubuntu
[10:35] <lupine_85> forevertheuni: you can probably dpkg -r the problem package
[10:35] <zhall> is there other irc client software on ubuntu??
[10:35] <Jack_Sparrow> eZe: Did you do what it says starting on line #44
[10:35] <lupine_85> lots :D
[10:35] <lupine_85> !irc
[10:35] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[10:35] <lupine_85> irssi++
[10:35] <eyequeue> zhall, other than what?  there are many clients
[10:35] <eZe> Let me check Jack_Sparrow
[10:36] <zhall> xchat gnome
[10:36] <eZe> I have it open on ubuntu but the lines are not numbered Jack_Sparrow
[10:36] <ossie> hi guys, i am having random lock ups on my box, 64bit dapper, nvidia graphics, any help really appreciated
[10:36] <eyequeue> zhall, irssi is nice
[10:36] <zhall> link please
[10:36] <zer0efx> hey Samuli^, you are you still here? it said I cant view roots password info and when I tried to login to root, i dont know the password...
[10:36] <Ashb> can any1 help me install KDE instead of GNOME
[10:37] <eyequeue> zhall, link to what?  apt-get?
[10:37] <d00m5> noob here, having problems with a pcmcia wireless card, the power lit does not turn on
[10:37] <ossie> Ashb. sudo apt-get install kde
[10:37] <eyequeue> !root > zer0efx
[10:37] <AnnonX> hihmm
[10:37] <d00m5> not recognized in lshw, lspci
[10:37] <zhall> yes
[10:37] <Jack_Sparrow> eZe  I am leaving for lunch.. Look at the online pastebin and see if you followed the instructions.
[10:37] <Ignite_> Ashb, http://kubuntu.com also, if you just want to install kde, run "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" in the terminal, then select it for your session when you login :)
[10:37] <zer0efx> thank you
[10:37] <eyequeue> zhall, sudo apt-get install irssi
[10:37] <eZe> I just read it Jack_Sparrow...I havent done any of that jack_wyt
[10:38] <eZe> Thank you for your time Jack_Sparrow!!!
[10:38] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[10:38] <ossie> hi guys, i am having random lock ups on my box, 64bit dapper, nvidia graphics, any help really appreciated, i have had a few lockups beofre using the same setup , but this is locking all the time, a real annoyance
[10:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Just follow the instructins as provided
[10:38] <Jack_Sparrow> People, play nice.. cya later..
[10:39] <zhall> eyequeue:  Unable to lock the administration directory
[10:39] <forevertheuni_> lupine_85, hi..but..that package is not installed
[10:39] <eyequeue> zhall, close your other apps first
[10:39] <eyequeue> zhall, what else are you running?
[10:40] <zhall> oh noo
[10:40] <zhall> update
[10:40] <d00m5> noob, having probs with a pcmcia wireless card, not recognized with lshw or lspci
[10:40] <eyequeue> zhall, you have some other app locking the dir
[10:41] <ossie> hi guys, i am having random lock ups on my box, 64bit dapper, nvidia graphics, any help really appreciated, i have had a few lockups beofre using the same setup , but this is locking all the time, a real annoyance, i think its nvidia issue, as I used to disable screensaver to fix problem, but now that dont work
[10:41] <zhall> eyequeue:  like what
[10:41] <eyequeue> zhall, what else are you running?
[10:41] <eyequeue> zhall, synaptic
[10:42] <zhall> firefox, update and xchat
[10:42] <eyequeue> zhall, what do you mean "update"?
[10:42] <Ignite_> the update manager i suspect
[10:43] <eyequeue> zhall, close that
[10:43] <zhall> downloading new package
[10:43] <eyequeue> zhall, that is the cause of the lock
[10:44] <Ashb> is there a reason it is all laggy when i browse firefow
[10:44] <soundman89> any ideas on how to fix a GRUB error?
[10:44] <zhall> mmm, ok i'll finish first than I'll install irssi
[10:44] <Arrick> that firefox for your
[10:44] <zhall> wow
[10:44] <eyequeue> zhall, that will work too
[10:44] <Ashb> what should i use
[10:44] <jaymz> I need help with updates, i can't run the update manager, or apt-get - i posted the error i'm getting here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24711
[10:45] <zhall> why every I press tab, the nicks copied here
[10:45] <kitche> zhall: it's auto-complete
[10:45] <linuchsan> soundman89:post the error
[10:45] <eyequeue> zhall, tab completion is considered a feature
[10:45] <soundman89> when i boot up, i get a GRUB error 21
[10:45] <deoryp> could someone help me get my forward/back buttons to work in dapper? i tried the ubuntu inst from online, but they did not do the magic
[10:46] <zhall> soundman89: so what os u'r using now :)
[10:46] <soundman89> windows on my laptop
[10:46] <d00m5> noob, having probs with a pcmcia wireless card, not recognized with lshw or lspci, Anyone?
[10:46] <soundman89> the prob. is on my desktop
[10:47] <Arrick> tonyyarusso, let me know if you dont get that email
[10:47] <kitche> soundman99: 21 : Selected disk does not exist
[10:47] <Ashb> why cant i install KDE
[10:47] <eyequeue> jaymz, you broke your system
[10:47] <kitche> soundman99: that should give you an idea of your problem
[10:47] <tonyyarusso> Arrick: It's here.
[10:47] <jiSh> Ashb: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[10:47] <eyequeue> jaymz, you installed edgy libc6 on dapper! :(
[10:47] <Arrick> ok thanks
[10:47] <Ashb> i tried that
[10:48] <jiSh> and?
[10:48] <soundman89> zhall> I have 3hdd, one for windows, 1 for ubuntu, and 1 for storage
[10:48] <eyequeue> jaymz, i recommend a fresh install of dapper
[10:48] <jaymz> eyequeue: probably when i was trying to get xgl to work
[10:48] <eyequeue> jaymz, zgl is evil, oh well
[10:48] <Ashb> it didnt work
[10:48] <soundman89> zhall> i cannot boot up either of my OS's
[10:48] <Arrick> jiSh, he may not have removed the autoboot to the original desktop
[10:48] <Arrick> soundman89, di you install windows first>?
[10:48] <d00m5> noob, having probs with a pcmcia wireless card, not recognized with lshw or lspci
[10:49] <jiSh> Ashb: why didn't it work? what happened
[10:49] <linuchsan> soundman89:postbin your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:49] <zhall> soundman89: let u log on to ur windows and repair ur partition using paragon partition or ect
[10:49] <stefg> !wifi
[10:49] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:49] <jiSh> Ashb: can you choose it from your sessions dialog in the login screen?
[10:49] <Ashb> (06:48:48) Ashb: ash@ash-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:49] <Ashb> (06:48:48) Ashb: Reading package lists... Done
[10:49] <Ashb> (06:48:48) Ashb: Building dependency tree... Done
[10:49] <Ashb> (06:48:48) Ashb: Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[10:49] <Ashb> (06:48:48) Ashb: requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[10:49] <eyequeue> zhall, you, your
[10:49] <Ashb> (06:48:48) Ashb: distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[10:49] <Ashb> (06:48:48) Ashb: or been moved out of Incoming.
[10:49] <Ashb> (06:48:48) Ashb: Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[10:49] <Ashb> (06:48:48) Ashb: the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[10:49] <Arrick> oh god
[10:49] <Ashb> (06:48:48) Ashb: that package should be filed.
[10:49] <jiSh> =/
[10:49] <kitche> !pastebin
[10:49] <Ashb> (06:48:48) Ashb: The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[10:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:49] <Ashb> (06:48:48) Ashb: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:49] <kitche> Ashb: stop use a pastebin
[10:49] <Arrick> please spare us from this paste
[10:50] <mikefoo> Ok so I have a NAS device mounted and dd reports that I copied 1G of data at 290MB/sec over a gigabit link, isn't the max 80MB/sec'ish ?
[10:50] <zhall> soundman89:  i have faced ur problem before
[10:50] <ompaul> Ashb, it falls to me to say you have been muted - you will be granted voice again in a few minutes
[10:50] <Arrick> please allow him back ompaul
[10:50] <Arrick> thanks, he just didnt know
[10:50] <kitche> soundman89: GRUB error 21 means that it can't see the disk
[10:50] <linuchsan> Ashb:we can see you are there
[10:50] <Arrick> he apparently didnt read the topic
[10:50] <soundman89> i've had windows on one of my hdd for years, then i decided to install ubuntu on a 5gb hdd i had laying around
[10:50] <kitche> Arrick: he's just muted he's still in here
[10:50] <ompaul> Arrick, wait two or three mins - let his buffer empty
[10:50] <Arrick> I know
[10:50] <Arrick> yep
[10:50] <d00m5> noob, having probs with a pcmcia wireless card, not recognized with lshw or lspci
[10:51] <Arrick> thanks ompaul
[10:51] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Hi guys -- er gparted failed to resize my ntfs, and now it reads as unformatted
[10:51] <Biscuitian_Warhe> any ideas?
[10:51] <soundman89> zhall> i cannnot boot up either  of my os's
[10:51] <stefg> !repeat
[10:51] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:51] <Arrick> Biscuitian_Warhe, you need to specify what format when you change the size
[10:51] <ompaul> ashb in the mean time, please paste the material you wanted to use in paste.ubuntu-nl.org and be ready with the URL when you are granted voice again
[10:51] <Arrick> or it wont read the format
[10:52] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Arrick: I was resizing my NTFS to make more space for my ext3 system
[10:52] <zhall> soundman89:  try downloading supergrub and save on cd or flash
[10:52] <Arrick> yeah, you gotta respecuify what format you want the ntfs patition to be, or it wont read it
[10:52] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Arrick: The NTFS partition right now reads as unformatted, well i know it isn't and it's really ntfs, I need it to be ntfs so grub will boot it
[10:53] <Arrick> yeah
[10:53] <Arrick> go back in with gparted, and tell it it is ntfs
[10:53] <xgm> how to change words /etc/apt/sources.list brezzy to dapper fast in that file ?
[10:53] <Ashb> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24712 is the prob
[10:53] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Arrick: But won't that delete everything?
[10:53] <eyequeue> xgm, sudo nano
[10:53] <xgm> Or how to upgrade from 5.1 to 6.06
[10:53] <linuchsan> soundman89:how did you install ubuntu, did you have a windows installed before?
[10:53] <soundman89> zhall> so all of my hdd are, well, shot?
[10:53] <kitche> xgm: make a script to replace all of breezy with dapper
[10:53] <eyequeue> !upgrade > xgm
[10:53] <doddy> can someone tell me how to find what is in PKG_CONFIG_PATH? I am trying to build something and it says that it cant find libgnomeui-2.0. I am guessing that i need to check here first ?
[10:53] <stefg> !grub
[10:53] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:54] <Ashb> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24712 is the prob
[10:54] <Arrick> hang on Biscuitian_Warhe
[10:54] <kitche> doody: you don't have libgnomeui-2.0 installed
[10:54] <soundman89> zhall> where do i get that
[10:54] <xgm> !upgarde
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upgarde - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:54] <event> somebody know who me install amule?
[10:54] <doddy> if i look at the package manager it says that i have it but it is labelled as libgnomeui2.0 (without the dash)
[10:54] <kitche> !upgrade > xgm
[10:54] <zhall> soundman89: I dont remember but u can search it, most people using it to repair their grub
[10:54] <Ashb> ARRICK
[10:54] <Ashb> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24712 is the prob
[10:55] <jrib> 3!info amule
[10:55] <jrib> !info amule
[10:55] <ubotu> amule: aNOTHER eMule P2P Client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1173 kB, installed size 3212 kB
[10:55] <kitche> doddy: that's just the package name but the .pc should be spelled right
[10:55] <doddy> how can i find that?
[10:55] <stefg> !info language-selector-qt
[10:55] <ubotu> language-selector-qt: Language selector for kubuntu linux. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1.20.1 (dapper), package size 9 kB, installed size 92 kB
[10:55] <jrib> event: amule is in the universe reposiory.  You can install it with synaptic after enabling the universe repository
[10:55] <jrib> ubotu: tell event about universe
[10:56] <soundman89> linu
[10:56] <event> ty
[10:56] <stefg> Ashb: either you sources.list is borked, or your mirror is dead
[10:56] <Arrick> Ashb, do you have universe and multiverse installed?
[10:56] <d00m5> noob, having probs with a pcmcia wireless card, not recognized with lshw or lspci
[10:56] <Ashb> what
[10:56] <doddy> kitche can you tell me how to check for .pc?
[10:56] <Ashb> can we talk in private
[10:56] <soundman89> linuchsan> off a cd, on my laptop first, then i tried to put it on my desktop
[10:56] <Arrick> paste your sources list to the same and post the link here
[10:56] <kitche> doddy: do sudo updatedb then locate libgnomeui-2.0.pc
[10:56] <Ashb> what are sources
[10:57] <zhall> soundman89: or u can repair ur mbr to log windows
[10:57] <main2> is there a ubuntu development channel?
[10:57] <linuchsan> soundman89:postbin your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:57] <soundman89> zhall> so once i d-load it, do i just put it in my cd drive, and boot up, and let it do its stuff?
[10:57] <ompaul> Ashb, the lists of sites named in the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:57] <Arrick> !sources
[10:57] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:57] <Ashb> and
[10:57] <Ashb> what do i do
[10:58] <ompaul> !enter
[10:58] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[10:58] <stefg> d00m5: we read that already... what kernel, what hardware? have you read !wifi already? Have you put the make and model of your card, paired with ubuntu, into google?
[10:58] <Arrick> copy that file ompaul told you about and paste it to the pastebin Ashb
[10:58] <birdmun> i recently noted that the file .xsession-errors was huge 6gig i deleted it ... but what would cause it to grow like it did?
[10:58] <jaymz> eyequeue: hmm - i removed tzdata from /var/lib/dpkg/status - and now i'm not getting any errors
[10:58] <Ashb> what was the file
[10:58] <ompaul> Ashb, the lists of sites named in the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:58] <jga23> can anybody help me out with setting up a WUSB54G linksys wireless usb on ubuntu?
[10:58] <Ashb> this is going all laggy
[10:58] <kitche> birdmun: errors
[10:58] <Ashb> ok
[10:59] <jrib> birdmun: a lot of errors, but you'd need the file to find out what they were :)
[10:59] <Ashb> how do i check
[10:59] <kitche> birdmun: probably just kept logging until it got that big
[10:59] <birdmun> so i should have no worries
[10:59] <jrib> birdmun: take a look at it once in a while and see if there is anything important
[10:59] <birdmun> if so then i thank you all for your time
[10:59] <birdmun> alright
[10:59] <eyequeue> jaymz, you still have a non-dapper libc6
[10:59] <birdmun> thanks all
[11:00] <mabus> linuchsan: it depends on what?
[11:00] <tuxtux_> notte a tutti
[11:00] <shinobi2> what's the trace route command ? tracert did not work
[11:00] <mabus> linuchsan: If it was secure, I'd rather that my regular user be able to edit files,rather than having to login as root to edit everything.
[11:01] <iLLf8d> its wierd terminal server vnc client bails but xtightvncviewer works fine
[11:01] <mabus> Okay, if you have apache, what are safe permissions/owners to have for your files in /var/www ?
[11:01] <Waerner> If someone are a bit familiar with chroot and have 10 minutes to offer, I'd be glad if you let me know.
[11:01] <soundman89> linuchsan> how do i do that?
[11:01] <zhall> soundman89: sorry, I guess u'll find a complete tutorial to using supergrub on adrian websites
[11:01] <Waerner> someone is even*
[11:01] <Ashb> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24713 there u go
[11:01] <Xenguy> mabus: 644 or 664
[11:02] <Horrible> i have a problem ... i installed the tv-tunner card but i don`t have any program to run it
[11:02] <Horrible> do you have any idea where to get it or what should i look for ?
[11:02] <Horrible> i have ubuntu 6.06
[11:02] <stefg> Horrible: analog or DVB
[11:02] <Ashb> arrick http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24713
[11:02] <soundman89> zhall> but what i don't get is why it does it when i disconnect my ubuntu hdd
[11:02] <daxxar> I'm having some issues getting my machine to boot over PXE with / mounted over NFS. It mounts the drive, but it gives me
[11:02] <Horrible> analog
[11:02] <mabus> Xenguy: And is it safe to chown to my regular user? And will I have to modify my apache configuration?
[11:02] <Arrick> looking at it now Ash-Fox
[11:02] <Arrick> Ashb, sorry
[11:02] <daxxar> .. 'PERMISSION DENIED' on any disk-write-access.
[11:02] <Ashb> ok
[11:02] <soundman89> is GRUB something to do with the BIOS?
[11:02] <stefg> !info xawtx
[11:02] <ubotu> Package xawtx does not exist in any distro I know
[11:02] <stefg> !info xawtv
[11:02] <ubotu> xawtv: X11 TV application. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.94-1.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 219 kB, installed size 712 kB
[11:03] <Ashb> do u have msn this is real slow
[11:03] <Xenguy> mabus: I think it is actually *best* to chown to your regular user...
[11:03] <daxxar> Anyone know what could cause this? My export line is "/var/media-root 192.168.0.17(rw,sync)"
[11:03] <Horrible> well ... ?
[11:03] <Arrick> Ashb, you need to uncomment your sources in order to install that
[11:03] <Zolace> !language
[11:03] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:03] <Ashb> how do i do that
[11:03] <Xenguy> mabus: you may not have to modify your Apache config that much, if at all
[11:03] <mabus> Xenguy: okay, so just chown everything in /var/www... or chown -R /var/www itself?
[11:03] <Arrick> take the # out from in front of the lines that start with deb
[11:03] <stefg> Horrible: most mediaplayers can handle TV like mplayer or VLC
[11:03] <Ashb> then wil it work
[11:03] <ArrenLex> Hallo all.
[11:04] <WilloW12341> so i have ndiswrapper installed properly but i get this message when i restart the network and it does not see wlan0 wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device does any one have any idea ????
[11:04] <Arrick> hey jrib do you have to enable multiversse in dapper?
[11:04] <Xenguy> mabus: I think you want /var/www owned by root pretty much; but anything beneath that level you can have, say, root as owner, and your regular user as group -- something like that
[11:04] <Horrible> stefg: ok, i`ll try - thank you
[11:04] <Waerner> Can I use CHROOT to set a user's homedir as a root?
[11:04] <stefg> !multimedia
[11:04] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[11:05] <d00m5> !wiki
[11:05] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[11:05] <Waerner> He is only supposed to use my one directory on my webserver anyway, and access it through FTP
[11:05] <eyequeue> Waerner, if that user will never run anything at all
[11:05] <Arrick> Waerner, stay away from chroot
[11:05] <d00m5> !wifi
[11:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:05] <Ashb> arrick i cant save it now
[11:05] <Arrick> do it with sudo
[11:05] <Xenguy> mabus: here's mine: drwxrwsr-x 14 root user 4096 Sep 22 00:19 /var/www
[11:05] <Ashb> odo what
[11:05] <Waerner> eyequeue: Can he upload files and stuff to it via FTP?
[11:05] <soundman89> zhall> thanks for tryin'
[11:05] <eyequeue> Waerner, alll libs and bins would be inaccessible
[11:05] <mabus> Xenguy: Okay yeah, that makes sense.
[11:05] <Arrick> open the file in terminal and type in sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:05] <Waerner> eyequeue: I don't know if he needs them? :o I mean, the system-user has access via FTP to that folder
[11:06] <eyequeue> Waerner, ftp is an evil protocol, i'd use ssh
[11:06] <Xenguy> mabus: chmod g+s is useful too
[11:06] <Arrick> then you will be able to save it Ashb
[11:06] <Ashb> ok
[11:06] <Arrick> you have to open the file liek that, sorry
[11:06] <Arrick> liek
[11:06] <Arrick> like
[11:06] <Waerner> eyequeue; I have them both. FTP for uploading to the server, and SSH to "access" the system
[11:07] <eyequeue> Waerner, consider sftp
[11:07] <jga23> can anybody help me out with setting up a WUSB54G linksys wireless usb on ubuntu?
[11:07] <Waerner> eyequeue: I might do :)  but I still want to change his root... :P
[11:07] <eyequeue> sftp (1)             - secure file transfer program
[11:07] <stefg> !wifi
[11:07] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:07] <pigeonor> what about winscp?
[11:07] <eyequeue> Waerner, chroot will, but you'll have an awful lot of work
[11:08] <TheGateKeeper> anyone know how to setup ekiga?
[11:08] <eyequeue> pigeonor, is that a linux app?
[11:08] <pigeonor> it isnt, but it can be ran in wine, also, they have a version for linux
[11:08] <eyequeue> pigeonor, what exactly is it?  why not run a linux app?
[11:08] <Waerner> eyequeue: Do the only way to do it is through these giant tutorials? :(
[11:08] <eyequeue> scp (1)              - secure copy (remote file copy program)
[11:08] <Ashb> ok what now
[11:09] <silent_scream> how can i mount a .cue file ?
[11:09] <pigeonor> winscp is a great app
[11:09] <Waerner> eyequeue: I mean, if I skip all lib's and stuff...
[11:09] <Ashb> arrick do u have msn
[11:09] <pigeonor> it is like ssh
[11:09] <pigeonor> but with ftp capabilities
[11:09] <pigeonor> it is a great app
[11:09] <eyequeue> Waerner, no, you can use trial an error ;-)  the tutorials are mostly yo save you time and mistakes, heh
[11:09] <Ashb> Arrick: do you have msn
[11:09] <Arrick> yeah
[11:09] <Arrick> but I dont ever use it
[11:09] <Ashb> ok
[11:09] <Arrick> I also hoave yahoo
[11:09] <Ashb> well; can i pm u
[11:09] <Arrick> you can join #arrick
[11:10] <eyequeue> pigeonor, scp itself is available to you, i see no reason to mess with wine etc
[11:10] <Ashb> ok
[11:10] <pigeonor> http://www.pingx.net/secpanel/
[11:10] <pigeonor> that can be used for linux
[11:10] <pigeonor> it is like winscp
[11:10] <Waerner> eyequeue: Haha, yeah, but they explain too much :P But I'll guess I have to go through one of them then :) Thanks alot
[11:11] <pigeonor> well, i just like how winscp looks
[11:11] <pigeonor> but you can dow what you want
[11:11] <eyequeue> Waerner, good luck
[11:11] <DPackrat> Any recommends on how to create a DVD menu? I'd want one that's interactive (ie, can click buttons to take you to certain scenes)
[11:11] <Waerner> eyequeue: Thanks, I'll need it :)   *poff*
[11:11] <eyequeue> pigeonor, i have no ms here, so can't speak to "look" but prefer function typically :)
[11:12] <pigeonor> well, i have yet to use scp on linux yet, but i am just speaking from personal experience
[11:13] <zer0efx> I cant seem to get any audio and my souncard is supported... is this a common error?
[11:13] <pigeonor> now i have programmers doing my sites for me, so i no longer need to logon myself anymore
[11:13] <pigeonor> or i can just logon to cpanel if i really want to see what they are doing
 check to see if it is alsa
[11:14] <zer0efx> sorry
[11:14] <zer0efx> I dont follow what alsa means
[11:15] <ladydoor> !alsa
[11:15] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[11:15] <pigeonor> at the top right of your screen, next to time
[11:15] <ladydoor> zer0efx: 6^
[11:15] <ladydoor> zer0efx: what i meant was "^^^"
[11:15] <zer0efx> thank you
[11:15] <yAkup> thank ya:D
[11:15] <zer0efx> appreciate it
[11:15] <silent_scream> how can i mount a .cue file ?
[11:15] <pigeonor> mount? or burn?
[11:16] <silent_scream> mount
[11:16] <ladydoor> silent_scream: there's a package called bchunk that can convert it to .iso
[11:16] <silent_scream> in a directory
[11:16] <ladydoor> silent_scream: *so long as it also came with a .bin
[11:16] <Hoxzer> !esd
[11:16] <ubotu> esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[11:16] <silent_scream> ladydoor, no i'd like to do it with cdemu.
[11:16] <ladydoor> silent_scream: i'm sorry?
[11:16] <Hoxzer> !esd+alsa
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about esd+alsa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <ladydoor> silent_scream: what does that mean?
[11:17] <pigeonor> alsa, are the drivers
[11:17] <silent_scream> i have cdemu installed and i'm trying to mount a .cue file in a directory
[11:17] <pigeonor> there is alsa, or oss
[11:17] <ladydoor> silent_scream: yes; what is cdemu?
[11:17] <Who_> anyone know how to diagnose a crash that happens only with a particular disk
[11:17] <krazykit> pigeonor: oss is deprecated, and has been for awhile.
[11:17] <Who_> hard lock - no NUM+CAPS lock and I want to mkae a bug report
[11:17] <IceZone> could someone assist on a shorewall installation?
[11:17] <pigeonor> you are right, it is crap
[11:18] <pigeonor> but i am just telling the options
[11:18] <pigeonor> alsa is always better
[11:18] <pigeonor> but not always supported
[11:18] <pigeonor> and lhas lots of problems
[11:18] <eyequeue> !language
[11:18] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:18] <silent_scream> ladydoor, it's a prog to mount images such as .cue .bin etc
[11:18] <ladydoor> silent_scream: ah. in that case, have you read the manual?
[11:18] <pigeonor> i appolagize to everyone
[11:18] <krazykit> pigeonor: that's what aoss is for.  if you launch a program "aoss some_oss_using_thing" it'll route it through alsa
[11:18] <printk> for?
[11:19] <krazykit> and "crap" is a swear word now?
[11:19] <eyequeue> krazykit, always has been
[11:19] <printk> yah I thought crap is a decent alternative to a swear word
[11:19] <stefg> !info cdemu
[11:19] <ubotu> Package cdemu does not exist in any distro I know
[11:19] <printk> oh no need to be nit-picky guys...
[11:19] <bakert> "crap" is definitely a swear word (in the UK at least)
[11:19] <silent_scream> yeap ladydoor , it says "cdemu 0 file.cue" i did that but i don't know where the file is mounted!
[11:19] <printk> I doubt anyone is offended by crap, stick to topic.
[11:19] <eyequeue> bakert, .us as well
[11:19] <eyequeue> printk, i am
[11:19] <pigeonor> aoss isnt that great personally
[11:19] <printk> then use /ignore.  That's just ridiculous
[11:19] <ladydoor> silent_scream: that's all it says? also, check /media/cdrom0
[11:20] <eyequeue> printk, no, profanity in here is wrong, this should remain family-friendly
[11:20] <silent_scream> ladydoor, yeap nothing in it
[11:20] <pigeonor> i guess since it is a 4 letter word, that makes it bad?
[11:20] <pigeonor> hmmmmm
[11:20] <pigeonor> ill go wash my mouth out with soap now
[11:20] <ladydoor> can we take the language discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[11:21] <eZe> Is there anyone available willing to assist me on my modem problem?
[11:21] <pigeonor> modem?
[11:21] <pigeonor> lol
[11:21] <eZe> I have my chipset information in pastebin
[11:22] <erUSUL> !modem
[11:22] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[11:22] <linuchsan> pigeonor:with crap soap?!
[11:22] <eZe> yes, unfortunatly pigeonor
[11:22] <eyequeue> !language > linuchsan
[11:22] <eZe> I have ubotu
[11:22] <pigeonor> yes, with crap soap
[11:22] <eZe> There is so much more apparently
[11:22] <eyequeue> !language > pigeonor
[11:22] <linuchsan> pigeonor:with krap soap?!
[11:22] <eyequeue> !ops
[11:22] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[11:22] <alien3456> crap
[11:23] <ladydoor> guys: seriously: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:23] <gnomefreak> ?
[11:23] <eyequeue> Seveas, could you please address thepersistant profanity
[11:23] <Amaranth> eyequeue: ?
[11:23] <eZe> Tell me this please...what is the best way to access the internet using ubuntu?
[11:23] <Seveas> eyequeue, yeah, on it
[11:23] <eyequeue> Amaranth, the searing is intentional
[11:23] <eZe> dsl?
[11:23] <eZe> cable?
[11:23] <gnomefreak> ty Seveas
[11:23] <alien3456> crap is not profane anywhere but a kindergarten classroom
[11:23] <eyequeue> Amaranth, with a w in there even heh
[11:24] <bakert> eZe - either
[11:24] <Seveas> eZe, anything that works for you is the prefered way ;)
[11:24] <jbroome> eZe: i prefer cable, but whatever you got will work
[11:24] <linuchsan> !c&rap
[11:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c&rap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:24] <Seveas> just stay clear of AOL
[11:24] <eZe> I'm having one heck of a time with modem autodection
[11:24] <IceZone> could someone assist on a shorewall configuration?
[11:25] <krazykit> eZe: you may have an unsupported winmodem :-/
[11:25] <ukjadoon> hello everyone
[11:25] <jbroome> eZe: or are you setting up dsl?
[11:25] <drunk_hobo> im running brezzy how do i upgrade to dapper
[11:25] <stefg> eZe: that depends on your local situation... broadband is preferrable,  in europe this means nearly always DSL. The more bandwidth the better I'd say
[11:25] <eZe> I dont think I do krazykit, but you could be right
[11:25] <krazykit> !upgrade > drunk_hobo
[11:25] <tonyyarusso> Any idea what chipset eZe?
[11:25] <eyequeue> !upgrade > drunk_hobo
[11:25] <eZe> Yes I do tonyyarusso
[11:25] <stefg> !scanmodem
[11:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scanmodem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:25] <eZe> I'll give you the link if you would like tonyyarusso
[11:26] <eZe> Its in pastebin tonyyarusso
[11:26] <tonyyarusso> eZe: Sure.  I'll see I have any thoughts.
[11:26] <rnalexander> Hello all.
[11:26] <ukjadoon> i just got ubuntu 6.06 and i have the same problem like the kazillion other ppl on the forums, my thingy just hangs up on the mounting root thingy, and the same thing happens with the kubuntu cd
[11:26] <eZe> I'm stumped on line 60 or something Tonren
[11:26] <ukjadoon> after waiting for a while i get the error that could not find PCI device blah blah blah and nothing happens
[11:26] <eZe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24544
[11:26] <ukjadoon> but the HD light keeps on blinking
[11:26] <eZe> Thats it there tonyyarusso
[11:27] <ukjadoon> =(i am depressed
[11:27] <rnalexander> I'm afraid I'm coming with a support question as well, is there someone specific I could bother with it rather than having to fill up the channel?
[11:27] <RedDuck> Hello, I have an ubuntu machine without internet access. Is it possible to download a something (the build-essentials), put it on a disc and use it as the repository?
[11:27] <eZe> I'm stuck on line 59 tonyyarusso
[11:27] <krazykit> rnalexander: nah, just ask
[11:27] <m0> Hi guys
[11:27] <tonyyarusso> eZe: What sort of stuck?
[11:27] <Seveas> RedDuck, yes it is -- but if you have the alternative install cd: it has build-essential already
[11:27] <rnalexander> Ok, I'm having the Could not download all repository indexes problem...
[11:27] <m0> does anyone use Cisco VPN ?
[11:28] <eyequeue> rnalexander, by asking, others may learn :)  you'll also get someone that knows the topic
[11:28] <m0> or did anyone use it?/
[11:28] <ukjadoon> =( heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp
[11:28] <rnalexander> I'm on dapper, it's a fresh install.
[11:28] <eZe> I type the command in terminal and it says something about 1n not being recognized or something
[11:28] <RedDuck> Sevas, how would you do it?
[11:28] <RedDuck> (For any file)
[11:28] <eZe> I could try it again and be more specific tonyyarusso
[11:28] <rnalexander> I go to use Add/Remove and when it goes to update the repository it can't find them.
[11:28] <ukjadoon> my fresh install of ubuntu 6.06 and kubuntu 6.06 just hangs up on the mounting root screen during the boot operation
[11:28] <ukjadoon> its getting on my nerves:'(
[11:28] <Seveas> RedDuck, I wouldn't do it yet as it's not easy
[11:28] <m0> Does anyone knwo if the VPN for Cisco has a GUI
[11:28] <tonyyarusso> eZe: Did you type ell-enn or one-enn?
[11:29] <eZe> neither tony
[11:29] <eZe> sudo 1n -s /user
[11:29] <printk> m0: the one I uses does not...
[11:29] <eZe> I just seen it!
[11:29] <eZe> CRAP!
[11:29] <tonyyarusso> eZe: Lightbulb now?
[11:29] <RedDuck> Sevas, meh, can you point me in the right direction anyways. I have enough coffee to give it a shot.
[11:29] <eZe> Hang on tonyyarusso, let my retype it...lol yeah tonyyarusso!
[11:30] <m0> printk: hmm interesting :s
[11:30] <eZe> If this works, sorry for wastiing your time tonyyarusso!!
[11:30] <linuxpoet> How do I change the size of icons on the desktop
[11:30] <Max_-> I'm so happy to see this channel again... just installed ubuntu on my laptop and everything seems to work more or less fine... now I need the sudo -i password....  thought it would be mine.. but.. NO!...  plz!! :)
[11:30] <tonyyarusso> eZe: Totally okay.
[11:30] <tonyyarusso> We should require fonts to have script l or something.
[11:30] <eyequeue> Max_-, it is, but here is the factoid
[11:30] <eyequeue> !sudo > Max_-
[11:30] <rnalexander> Am I just making some horrible noob mistake?
[11:31] <Max_-> just need the pass... i think I should be okay with the rest
[11:31] <eyequeue> Max_-, again, it *is* your user password
[11:32] <Max_-> eyequeue, ... okay.. welll.. I'll try again then
[11:32] <eyequeue> Max_-, be sure your user is in the admin group, if it is not working :)
[11:32] <Max_-> eyequeue, maybe that's my problem...
[11:33] <ladydoor> rnalexander: try doing sudo apt-get update in the terminal (with all other update programs closed). if that still gives you the error, please specify here what repositories it can't fetch.
[11:33] <eyequeue> Max_-, you *may* need to boot to recovery mode, then "adduser max admin" or equivalent
[11:33] <jga23> is there any way to scan for wireless networks?
[11:33] <rnalexander> will do, thanks ladydoor
[11:33] <Max_-> eyequeue, .. okay, lets think about something else now.. it just worked.. I tried maybe 4 or 5 times before I come here..  :S.. lol sorry
[11:33] <eZe> Didnt work tonyyarusso
[11:33] <eZe> mmmm
[11:34] <tonyyarusso> eZe: What'd it say this time?
[11:34] <eyequeue> Max_-, lol, i'm the typo king, no worries :)
[11:34] <eZe> Asked me for a password
[11:34] <RedDuck> Seveas?
[11:34] <eZe> I typed it in tonyyarusso and then it said 1n command not found
[11:34] <tonyyarusso> eZe: That's still a one..
[11:34] <ladydoor> rnalexander: np
[11:35] <eZe> Thats what it looks like to  me tonyyarusso
[11:35] <rnalexander> Ladydoor, just tried it, many repositories failed.  I'll pop in a few:  http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/main/bindary-i386/Packages.gz
[11:35] <ladydoor> rnalexander: were there a lot?
[11:35] <ladydoor> rnalexander: if so, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:35] <rnalexander> Ladydoor, yes, more than a screen full.
[11:35] <eZe> earlier when I got my modem from the list.... I seen where it says to install my modem under linux
[11:36] <tonyyarusso> eZe: It should be an l, as in the letter before m.  ln means 'link', which might clarify the command a bit.
[11:36] <rnalexander> LD, I'm sorry, is that a command I should use in the terminal?
[11:36] <eZe> mmm, ok, thanks again tonyyarusso...I'll do that!
[11:37] <bakert> rnalexander, its a web site
[11:38] <bakert> rnalexander, you can paste lots of text there for other people to see
[11:39] <rnalexander> bakert, ah.  Sorry, I'm on IRC from my Mac, and doing the install on a seperate machine.  I'll do it from there, one sec.
[11:39] <bakert> rnalexander, not much use then!
[11:39] <rnalexander> No it's fine, the web was working ok last time.
[11:39] <bakert> rnalexander, ah i see
[11:40] <gansinho> hello, does anybody out there managed to sync a dell axim with the evolution... ? I'm using the forum thread about it, however ubuntu does not recognize my ppc as an ipaq.... it does not have drivers for it at all
[11:41] <rnalexander> ok, it's been pasted in, I used rnalexander, same name as here.
[11:41] <Pretor1ab> hello all
[11:42] <rnalexander> Sorry, forgot to name, Ladydoor, I've pasted it into the pastebin.
[11:42] <Pretor1ab> i have a bit of a dilema
[11:42] <Pretor1ab> i just installed ubuntu on a hp laptop
[11:42] <ladydoor> rnalexander: cool. what's the url?
[11:42] <RedDuck> Seveas?
[11:42] <krazykit> Pretor1ab: so've i
[11:42] <manwh0re> nagon svensk har?
[11:43] <Pretor1ab> it hasnt detected my wireless broadcom adapter
[11:43] <Seveas> !se
[11:43] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[11:43] <rnalexander> ladydoor, paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24715
[11:43] <krazykit> Pretor1ab: yep.  the bcm43xx driver is crummy in dapper, in my experience.  i'd suggest using ndiswrapper
[11:43] <krazykit> !broadcom > Pretor1ab
[11:43] <eZe>  Unpack under Linux with:
[11:43] <eZe>     tar zxf pctel*.tar.gz
[11:44] <Pretor1ab> without internet connection is it possible to use ndiswrapper
[11:44] <eZe> What does that mean...anyone?
[11:44] <gansinho> anyone has managed to sync any pocket pc to a linux system?
[11:44] <krazykit> eZe: it's how you extract the files.  it's like using zip or rar.
[11:44] <krazykit> sorta.
[11:44] <eZe> ok, thank you krazykit
[11:44] <eZe> Now how do I do it krazykit?
[11:45] <krazykit> see that second line you pasted?  that's the command
[11:45] <funkja> I have a generic MP3 player and when I plug it in it shows up as a usbdevice and i move files to it but when I unplug it, nothing actually stays on the disk. I plug it back in and none of the files I put on it stays. Any ideas?
[11:45] <eZe> When I right click it I dont see unpack under linux option
[11:45] <hangfire> just right click on the file and click extract here
[11:45] <eZe> Where do i type it krazykit?
[11:45] <eyequeue> eZe, tar is the archiver
[11:45] <eZe> in Terminal?
[11:45] <RedDuck> How would I download programs onto a disc for a computer without internet access?
[11:45] <eZe> in archive?
[11:45] <krazykit> eZe: yeah
[11:45] <eyequeue> tar (1)              - The GNU version of the tar archiving utility
[11:45] <krazykit> Terminal
[11:46] <ladydoor> rnalexander:
[11:46] <rnalexander> ??
[11:46] <eZe> Open with Archive Manager?
[11:46] <ladydoor> rnalexander: sorry. ok, this begs the question of whether your internet is up on your ubuntu computer.
[11:46] <erUSUL> funkja: do you actually umount (right click on the icon and choose eject) or you just unplugg it
[11:46] <eyequeue> eZe, that would work as well
[11:46] <ladydoor> rnalexander: can you ping a website (ping www.google.com; use control-c to quit)
[11:46] <ladydoor> ?
[11:46] <eZe> ok thanks for the patience!
[11:46] <funkja> just unplug
[11:46] <rnalexander> ladydoor, yes it is, I pasted the text into my browser from within firefox.
[11:47] <ladydoor> rnalexander: ok, cool. what country is gb?
[11:47] <ladydoor> rnalexander: oh, just kidding
[11:47] <ladydoor> rnalexander: great britain, right? ok...
[11:47] <rnalexander> google resolves to 66.102.9.147 and the ttl is 224 time=around 40 ms
[11:47] <erUSUL> funkja: well you can not do that just like in windows you have to tell the so you will unplugg the thing so it can sync contents
[11:47] <rnalexander> Yup!
[11:47] <eZe> Do I need to extract it to desktop or system folder?
[11:47] <funkja> erUSUL: ahh.. good to know. Thank you.
[11:47] <eZe> i mean File System?
[11:47] <erUSUL> funkja: as i said right click on the icon and choose eject
[11:48] <ladydoor> rnalexander: i think your sources.list is set up wrong. just a second
[11:49] <JohnCope> ciao a tutti
[11:49] <lupine_85> !it
[11:49] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:49] <ladydoor> rnalexander: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24716
[11:50] <demio> hello
[11:50] <JohnCope> ops sorry
[11:50] <ladydoor> rnalexander: this is a functional sources.list. replace archive.ubuntu.com with gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:50] <demio> does anyone know how to use repos not in your country?
[11:50] <rnalexander> ladydoor, 24717
[11:50] <JohnCope> I've just installed ubuntu for 64 bit processors
[11:50] <demio> i getting annoyed with the ones in my country being down all the freaking time
[11:50] <ladydoor> rnalexander: eh?
[11:50] <rnalexander> Sorry, I just pasted my file into the pastebin.
[11:51] <rnalexander> Or rather cut and pasted the text of it in there.
[11:51] <RedDuck> How would I download programs onto a disc for an ubuntu computer without internet access?
[11:52] <hangfire> sort of a general non-important question-  I installed a bunch of games with apt-get and not even half of them worked or showed up in my programs menu. Then I installed most all the programs that come with automatix, and now most all my games work. Why is that? Why doesnt Ubuntu support all that stuff from the getgo?
[11:52] <pty> RedDuck: download the .deb files, drag them to the CD/DVD creator in nautilus then install them using dpkg -i program.deb
[11:52] <ladydoor> rnalexander: what do you mean? i'm saying that you can check out that link to see a functional (us) sources.list--yours seems to be set up a little differently
[11:52] <RedDuck> thank you
[11:52] <rnalexander> ladydoor, I'vemade the changes to sources.list (the version in /etc/apt) I'm going to try it now.
[11:53] <RedDuck> pty
[11:53] <ladydoor> rnalexander: cool. you backed it up first, right?
[11:53] <rnalexander> ladydoor, do I need to restart for the new list to take effect?
[11:53] <rnalexander> ladydoor yup!  to my desktop since it didn't give me permission to do it in the directory :-)
[11:53] <ladydoor> rnalexander: no, just do sudo apt-get update
[11:53] <ladydoor> rnalexander: that's what sudo is for...
[11:54] <rnalexander> ladydoor heee, 'sudo get me a sandwich.'
[11:55] <rnalexander> ladydoor, ok, still having some failures, but a different set, some of them went through, shall I paste the new text to the pastebin?
[11:55] <boitono> is there any meeting software that anyone is aware of for linux? I need something that at least provides whiteboard
[11:55] <ladydoor> rnalexander: sure. also, please paste your current sources.list
[11:55] <Sourcemage> Is their a useful resource to find games with premade packages or w/e for Ubuntu?
[11:55] <rnalexander> ok, will do it in one post.
[11:55] <baris_> hello, where is usb adsl modem driver for conexant chipset?
[11:57] <kamui> !gforge
[11:57] <ubotu> gforge: Collaborative development tool - meta-package. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-31 (dapper), package size 54 kB, installed size 88 kB
[11:57] <rnalexander> gaaah.  good catch.  I guess the save didn't take for permissions.
[11:57] <kamui> can anyone explain what that means?  Is it like codeforge in that multiple people can work on the same project simultaneously (even edit the same file like codeforge at the same time witnessing the changes as they take place?)
[11:58] <kamui> or does collaborative in this instance refer to multiple different functions
[11:58] <eyequeue> kamui, what was it that was unclear?  meta-package?
[11:58] <rnalexander> Ok, stupid question time, how do I edit a file that I don't have permissions to normally, sudo [inserteditorhere]  [insertfilehere] ?
[11:58] <eyequeue> kamui, ro collaborate is to work together on a project, yes
[11:59] <eyequeue> rnalexander, exactly :)
[11:59] <keleus> is it possible to remove/disable complete ipv6 support without using a different/altered kernel?
[12:00] <rnalexander> Um... is there a graphic editor I can launch, my linux is so rusty the only thing I can think of using is VI....  :-(
[12:00] <jrib> rnalexander: gedit
[12:00] <eyequeue> rnalexander, gvim :)  but gedit exists too
[12:00] <jrib> rnalexander: for gui apps though, you should use 'gksudo' instead of 'sudo'
[12:00] <rnalexander> ??
[12:01] <rnalexander> ok
[12:01] <keleus> gksudo? what? kdesu all the way