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ajmitchas much as I'd like it as well :)12:13
ivokswell, edgy+1 is only 6 months from now :)12:14
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ivoks'night all12:15
ajmitchnight ivoks 12:16
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BenCcool, my jmicron eval board will be here tomorrow afternoon04:58
BenCmeans I should have an upload by tomorrow evening04:59
fabbionemorning06:20
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Mithrandirzul: yeah, I need to push my changes, sorry.08:12
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ivoks'morning08:41
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FujitsuHey ivoks.08:42
ivokshi Fujitsu 08:44
ivoksBenC: 2.6.18's generic.c contains some stuff about jmicron, which our kernel doesn't....08:46
marcin_antivoks: hi08:51
ivokshi marcin_ant 08:52
marcin_antivoks: I'm not kernel guru and developer - just simple user - but I compiled 2.6.18 (vanilla) on dapper two days ago08:52
ivoksmarcin_ant: and?08:52
marcin_antivoks: I hoped that it could fix something with jmicron - and... nothing08:52
marcin_antivoks: this controller didn't work08:52
ivokshm...08:53
marcin_antivoks: but I'm not sure if I did everything properly08:53
ivoksare you talking about SATA or IDE part of controller?08:53
marcin_antivoks: because there are reports that with 2.6.18 jmicron is operational08:53
marcin_antivoks: IDE08:53
ivoksacording to 2.6.18 source, jmicron IDE controller should work with generic IDE module08:54
ivoksand SATA controller should work with ahci08:54
ivokssata part is fixed in edgy's kernel08:54
marcin_antthen I just propably messed something in kernel config08:54
MithrandirBenC: we're closing for beta, unless it's _really_ needed, I'd be happier if you made that upload after beta is out.08:54
marcin_antivoks: well it's nice but it doesn't solve problem :(08:55
ivoksi'll test this change in generic, to see if it works08:55
marcin_antivoks: if you got sata DVD/CD then in 90% of cases you don't care about jmicron issue you can just plug drive into ICH808:55
ivoksmarcin_ant: i know08:55
ivoksbut ich8 doesn't work either for me08:56
marcin_antivoks: with sata?08:56
ivoksich8 sata controller doesn't work for me, right08:56
marcin_antivoks: at all or just with some kind of sata cd/dvd?08:56
ivoksat all08:57
marcin_antivoks: strange...08:57
ivoksmarcin_ant: works for you?08:57
marcin_antivoks: I got asus p5b and it works without any problems with sata hdd08:57
ivoksi have p5b too :)08:57
ivokswhat's your bios config for ich8?08:57
marcin_antivoks: I'm running dapper on this machine installed via instlux08:57
ivoksi don't care about instlux08:57
marcin_antivoks: now I'm at work so I cannot tell you what is my config in 100%08:58
marcin_antivoks: but tell me what hardware config you got...08:58
marcin_antivoks: asus p5b and what hdd you got?08:58
ivokswd08:59
marcin_antivoks: sata?08:59
ivoksof course08:59
marcin_antivoks: well it's not so obvious ;) I got 4 drives in my case with p5b and only one is sata... 09:00
marcin_antivoks: ok anyway then what else? cd/dvd... sata/ide?09:00
marcin_antivoks: fdd? usb drive?09:00
ivoksmarcin_ant: p5b has only one IDE port09:01
ivokshow could you put 3 drivers on one ide port?09:01
marcin_antivoks: sure but I got additional ATA 100 controller on cmd controller09:01
marcin_antcontroller/chipset09:02
marcin_antivoks: on pci09:02
ivokswell, i have ide cd, sata disk, fdd09:02
marcin_antivoks: anyway I hoped that I will be able to run p5b only with pata drives - and unfortunately I couldnt boot from additional controller and had to buy sata hdd - but's another story09:03
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marcin_antivoks: ok, can you boot from hdd ?09:03
marcin_antivoks: to any system? windows or something?09:03
ivoksno09:03
ivoksgrub freezes :/09:03
marcin_antso you can boot from this hdd and then you stop on grub right?09:04
ivoksanyway, i think this part of generic.c is key to this issue09:04
marcin_ant(it means that technically your bios is configured properly to boot from sata hdd)09:05
ivoksmarcin_ant: ahm... i know that :)09:05
ivoksmarcin_ant: i'm not here trying to get help :)09:05
ivoksmy system works, i only want to make it work to others09:06
marcin_antivoks: well sure but It's strange that you cannot boot to linux at all09:07
ivoksi can boot... i don't need disk to boot to it09:07
marcin_antivoks: i got workable dapper and my grub is working properly09:07
marcin_antivoks: so this is why I ask because I'm trying to understand what can be broken on your machine09:08
ivoksmarcin_ant: my disk is connected to jmicron, not ich809:08
marcin_antivoks: but you said that "but ich8 doesn't work either for me"09:09
ivoksit doesn't, but that's another issue09:09
ivoksi'm working on jmicron now09:09
ivoksatm, i don't care about ich809:09
marcin_antivoks: ok I see09:09
marcin_antivoks: I just thought that you got your primary hdd connected to ich8 and cd/dvd to jmicron...09:10
ivokseverything is connected to jmicron09:10
ivokscd to ide port, and disk to sata port09:11
marcin_antivoks: anyway on my mobo I got one sata hdd connected to ich8 and it's fully operational09:11
marcin_antivoks: than I got IDE cd/dvd connected to jmicron - which doesn't work with linux 09:11
ivoksthat means that ich8 works, great09:11
ivoksi'm hoping to solve that issue now09:12
marcin_antivoks: and I got three PATA hd drives connected to additional IDE controlled on PCI09:12
marcin_antivoks: which are also functional although I cannot boot from any of these drives09:12
marcin_antivoks: but it's propably problem with this particular controller and maybe with p5b bios... and it's not important now09:13
marcin_antivoks: another thing that doesn't work on this mobo is gigabyte LAN09:13
marcin_antivoks: this mobo has two NIC's but only one works09:14
ivoksinteresting... i have only one nic on p5b09:14
marcin_antivoks: hmmm09:14
marcin_antivoks: I got Asus p5b deluxe with wi-fi09:15
marcin_antivoks: maybe only this model has two NIC's09:15
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ph8i think the deluxe is indeed the only one with 2 nics09:40
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ivoksyoj! i got CD working09:48
ivoksbut still, my ich8 doesn't work :((((((09:49
ivoksi'll be back with a patch09:50
marcin_antivoks_away: take a look at #6220609:56
marcin_antehh he left09:56
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ivoksBenC: patch for CD jmicron is at: http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu/jmb.patch10:09
ivoksBenC: tested, works great10:09
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ivoksmarcin_ant: ping10:28
marcin_antivoks: pong10:28
ivoksmarcin_ant: could you, when you get home, write down your bios config, and send it to me?10:29
ivoksmarcin_ant: my ich8 just doesn't work :/10:29
marcin_antivoks: I see you fixed your jmicron :)10:29
ivoksyes... it works10:29
ivoksand patch is trivial10:29
marcin_antivoks: sure - but I can tell you pretty simple thing10:29
marcin_antivoks: I had problems with kernel from edgy I couldn't boot machine at all10:30
ivoksthat's cause CD didn't work10:30
marcin_antivoks: then I set just default bios settings10:30
marcin_antand then in boot section10:31
marcin_antI just selected my hdd drive and it worked10:31
marcin_antmaybe you could try this too10:31
ivoksheh...10:31
marcin_antquestion is - do you have problems with ich8 in linux kernel or in bios?10:32
ivoksin linux kernel10:32
ivoksif i connect disk to ich8, grub starts on it10:32
ivoksbut kernel fails to detect cd10:32
ivoksit reports that ata1 is slow to respond10:33
ivoksand that drive failed to identify10:33
marcin_antok but why cd?10:33
ivokssorry... not CD, disk10:33
marcin_anthmm strange10:33
marcin_antit can be something in bios...10:34
marcin_antwith sata settings... it shoud be set to enhanced afair10:34
ivoksit can, of course...10:34
ivoksi tried all possible settings10:34
marcin_antok I will send my settings to you10:34
ivoksk, thanks10:34
marcin_antI will be able to do this at about 20-21:00 (I'm in Poland and now is 10:35 here)10:35
ivokssame time in croatia :)10:35
marcin_antok so I will try to catch you here at evening10:36
ivoksyou could send it to email10:36
ivoksivoks@grad.hr10:36
ivoksor ubuntu.com10:36
ivoksi don't know if i'll be here at that time10:36
marcin_antok10:36
marcin_antthis patch is for 2.6.18?10:37
ivoksno, for edgy kernel10:37
ivoksit's taken out of 2.6.1810:37
marcin_antehhh I don't want to try edgy yet :(10:38
marcin_antI did few days ago and couldn't boot at all10:38
ivoksyour SATA jmicron must be set up as AHCI, and IDE must be enabled in BIOS10:38
ivoksi think p5b has bugs10:38
marcin_antkernel froze on setting ACPI on CPU or something like this...10:39
ivoksno, it breaks on something else...10:39
ivokser... ich8 works for you with dapper?10:39
marcin_antivoks: yes with dapper10:40
ivokskhm...10:40
marcin_antivoks: but I also had edgy for single day ;)10:40
ivoksand ich8 worked?10:40
marcin_antivoks: yes10:40
marcin_antivoks: but not after dist-upgrade10:40
ivoksheh... interesting10:40
marcin_antivoks: I installed dapper once with instlux10:40
marcin_antivoks: then upgraded with 'upgrade-manager' to edgy10:41
marcin_antivoks: and it was ok10:41
marcin_antivoks: then I next day I did dist-upgrade and couldn't boot10:41
ivoksthat sounds like regression10:41
ivoksso, conclusion is that ich8 work with dapper, but not with edgy10:42
marcin_antivoks: then I installed edgy from daily build 21.09.200610:42
marcin_antivoks: on this disk on another machine with some via chipset and PIV 3GHz10:43
ivoksthat's irrelevant information10:43
marcin_antivoks: but when I connected this disk at home to asus p5b10:43
ivoks...yes?10:43
marcin_antivoks: I couldn't boot at all10:43
ivoksthat's it10:43
marcin_antivoks: I could see grub10:43
marcin_antivoks: then some messages about ACPI and usb errors10:44
ivokshehehe10:44
ivoksthat's it10:44
marcin_antivoks: I don't remember them...10:44
ivoksedgy's kernel has regression10:44
ivoksthat would mean if i add this patch to dapper10:44
ivoksi should be able to boot from ich8 and i should be able to see CD10:44
marcin_antivoks: so I was so annoyed and angry that I switched to windows10:45
ivoksi will try that later today10:45
marcin_antivoks: and then I installed dapper again via instlux10:45
ivoksmarcin_ant: cause CDrom didn't work?10:45
marcin_antivoks: yes cd rom doesn't work on dapper10:45
ivokshehe, thanks million times10:45
marcin_antivoks: ich8 can work - jmicron cannot10:46
ivoksi know where to find bug now10:46
marcin_antivoks: and because I don;t have separate partition for another linux distro (edgy) I don't want to upgrade to edgy yet10:46
marcin_antivoks: because I don't want to mess with my current workable distro.. I need to work on this10:47
marcin_antivoks: but I would like to have an ability to use cd/dvd in dapper too10:47
marcin_antivoks: it's a bit annoying that I have to switch to windows to prepare backups :)10:48
ivoksmarcin_ant: this fix for IDE controller is trivial; i think i could be backported10:48
ivoksi'm not so sure about SATA part10:48
marcin_antivoks: well it's sata part is propably really not so important10:49
ivokswell... pb5 has exterior sata port that's on jmicron controller10:50
marcin_antivoks: btw if you have some free time could you take a look at #62206?10:50
ivoksatm i don't have X :)10:50
marcin_antivoks: I know - with raid support or something...10:50
ivoksand i have exam in 3 hours10:50
ivokseven wors... in 2 hours :)10:50
marcin_antok it's not something very important - it's just my bug report about secondary NIC's on asus p5b deluxe10:51
ivoksi can't do anything about that since i don't have that hardware10:51
marcin_antI verified this - your p5b has single LAN - mine has two controllers10:51
ivoksadd lspci, lspci -n and lspci -vvv to bug report, if you didn't allready10:51
marcin_antI did10:52
marcin_antand info about what kind of chipset it is10:52
marcin_ant(taken from windows hardware manager)10:52
marcin_antok... you have exam and I should work ;)10:52
ivoksright10:53
marcin_antso... 10:53
ivoksbrb10:53
marcin_antright :)10:53
marcin_antbrb10:53
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zulMithrandir: i think i might have missed your response it went past my scrollback01:43
Mithrandirzul: pushed my changes now01:45
zulok cool...thanks..01:46
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BenChmm...when jmicron said they were sending an eval board, I expected a mobo04:05
BenCthey sent me PCI-E weirdness that I'm not sure I can even use04:05
BenCon a brighter note, verizon is digging up my driveway for the T1 circuit04:06
kylemoh oh oh send me the pcie card. ;-P04:07
zuloh those crazy crazy hardware vendors04:08
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ivokshowdy04:12
BenCnice, my amd64 box has PCI-E slots04:13
ivokshi BenC 04:13
BenCivoks: hey04:14
ivoksBenC: that 'path' i sent you seams to fix jmicron ide problem for me04:14
ivoks'patch'04:14
BenCgot it, and testing it04:14
zulBenC: so 2.6.17 xen boots but when i try launch some guests it complains it cant find /dev/sda104:14
ivoksBenC: and it looks like edgy kernel has regression for ICH8 (untested claim)04:14
BenCivoks: regression from dapper?04:15
ivoksyes04:15
ivoksmarcin_ant said he was able to install dapper on ich804:15
BenCwouldn't doubt it, I need to test ich8, and I've no hardware to test with04:15
ivoksbut when he upgrade to edgy, think didn't work anymore04:15
ivoksi have hardware :)04:15
ivoksyou are welcome to test it04:16
ivoksbrb04:16
BenCI have the jmicron eval board, and after inserting it into my box, I got an oops on boot04:17
ivokside/sata controller?04:19
ivoksit will allways ops untill you disable IDE port or apply that patch :)04:19
ivokssata will work with 9.23, but i'm unable to boot from disk connected to jmicron sata controller04:20
ivoksotoh, i'm able to boot from ich8 port, but then kernel doesn't see disk04:20
ivoksanyway... i'll be back in couple of minutes04:21
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MithrandirBenC: you're aware of the "-9 panics on boot on lots of amd64 boxes"?04:50
BenCyeah, will be fixed tonight04:50
BenCamd64-agp is broken and will be disabled04:50
Mithrandirit wasn't enabled before?04:51
BenCppl will have to wait for edgy+1 for that little tidbit :)04:51
BenCwas new, came with the DRM/AGP update I did last week04:51
BenCbut I think it's missing some x86_64 mmio stuff that's not in 2.6.1704:51
Mithrandirok04:52
Mithrandirplease do be very conservative with your next upload -- beta is Thursday.04:52
mvoBenC: I got a postinst failure today from 2.6.17-9-386 on a test dapper-edgy upgrade (post-inst returned error exit status 128). do you have any idea? or should I start digging into it?04:53
BenCmvo: update-initramfs failed?04:56
BenCor maybe update-grub failed04:56
mvoBenC: its not fully clear from the log, it looks like update-grub failed04:56
mvoI look into it, it is most likely not the kernels fault :)04:58
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BenCyay, jmicron controller is working with that patche05:00
BenC[   31.340375]  Skipping disabled JMB363 IDE controller.05:01
BenCwell, not exactly05:02
zulheh05:03
Mithrandirzul: had a chance to look at the stuff I put in git?05:06
zulnot yet..will do at lunch time05:07
zulbut from a quick glance it looks ok to me05:08
ivoks_BenC: you have to put SATA controller in AHCI mode05:13
BenCivoks_: I have no way to do that...05:15
BenCno BIOS setup for the board05:15
ivoks_ah... pcie05:15
ivoks_i got the same mistake on first boot05:16
ivoks_went to bios to enable it to found out it's enabled05:16
ivoks_did reboot and, odd, it worked05:16
ivoks_bbl05:20
ivoks_bye05:20
BenCwhy would it need the SATA in ahci mode for the IDE to work :/05:20
ivoks_BenC: maybe linux driver is broken05:20
BenCPCI is broken05:21
ivoks_in bios, it says that making SATA controller ahci, IDE will be enabled05:21
BenClspci is reporting that the io ports are disabled05:21
ivoks_heh05:22
ivoks_anyway, time to go home... i'll return here from home05:22
mjg59BenC: Something needs to switch the hardware into mixed PATA/SATA mode. Right now, the ahci driver does that - I'm not sure anything else does.05:31
BenCahci driver is loaded05:32
BenCmjg59: The pci quirks are supposed to switch it to dualfn mode05:33
BenCI need to make sure the quirk is being run...adding a printk now05:34
BenCahci is loadin and detecting the SATA bus's (no sata drive on it yet)05:34
BenCit may be that this card needs a bit more quirk than the built-in chipset, just because of the lack of BIOS support05:37
mjg59BenC: Ah, hm. Yes, sorry, you're right.05:38
BenC[   26.480781]  PCI: JMB36x: Enabling dual function on 0000:03:00.005:41
BenCit's getting enabled05:41
BenCwtf05:41
BenC03:00.0 SATA controller: JMicron Technologies, Inc. JMicron 20360/20363 AHCI Controller (rev 03)05:42
BenC03:00.1 IDE interface: JMicron Technologies, Inc. JMicron 20360/20363 AHCI Controller (rev 03)05:42
mjg59Yeah, that's normal05:42
BenCjust wondering why it's disabled05:42
mjg59Usually it's a fairly well-specced bios flag05:42
mjg59Do you have the specs for the hardware?05:43
mjg59In any case, there's a check in generic.c that looks to see what one of the PCI config registers contains, and uses that to deicde whether it's enabled or not05:43
BenCno, I have no specs for the hw05:46
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BenCI just noticed that these two eval boards are different05:49
BenCI have a 363 and a 36605:50
BenCthe achi works...just booted with my 300GB SATA drive connected to it (root drive)05:53
BenCIDE is disabled on the 366 aswell05:55
mjg59BenC: It's quite possible that the chip comes up with pata disabled and needs to be programmed by the bios to enable it05:57
BenCthe JMicron BIOS screen shows it detecting the CDROM05:58
mjg59Hm.05:58
BenCI'll email them and find out05:58
BenCeven if things are working for built-in chips, I need to get this external thing working too05:58
mjg59You might want to check that it is the pci configuration bit05:58
BenCthe quirk might need some extra setup05:58
BenCbut it enables the dualfn before the PCI scan, so I would expect the PCI subsystem to take care of things05:59
mjg59BenC: Presumably it's erroring out at the bit at line 220 of generic.c?06:01
BenCyeah, it is06:01
BenCbut lspci also shows that the ioports are disabled06:02
BenCI wonder if I need to just get the jmicron.c06:02
mjg59BenC: Well, in that case surely the bios is never setting it up?06:03
BenCit shows values for the ports, but shows them as disabled06:04
BenC        Region 0: I/O ports at 7c00 [disabled]  [size=8] 06:04
BenC        Region 1: I/O ports at 7800 [disabled]  [size=4] 06:04
BenCetc...06:04
BenCor is [disabled]  just meaning that the OS isn't using them?06:04
zulis there a bios update for the board?06:06
BenC[  460.205680]  hdf: ATAPI 52X CD-ROM drive, 192kB Cache, UDMA(33)06:08
BenCanswers that question06:08
BenCjmicron.c it is then06:08
BenC[  459.413154]  JMB361: 100% native mode on irq 6606:09
zulMithrandir: looks good to me, ill do a test build tonight and upload06:25
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BenC2.6.17-10.24 uploading in about 10 minutes08:16
ivoksBenC: changes? :)08:17
BenCmjg59: I still don't have the mactel stuff in, but will next time around08:17
BenCivoks: Seems my eval boards needed the jmicron.c module08:17
BenCthings are working for me now08:17
ivoksok08:17
BenCivoks: You have ich8?08:18
ivoksyes08:18
ivoksactually, my client has it08:18
BenCis it working with current kernel?08:19
ivoksno08:19
ivoksit worked with old edgy kernel08:19
svu_tvBenC, will tomorrow's ISO have 2.16.17-10.24 ?08:19
ivokshardly08:19
svu_tvor any kernel working with g5? :)08:20
ivoksBenC: it think it worked with -7.1908:20
ivokssince one guy told me that it works with dapper and it worked with edgy untill september 22.08:22
BenCsvu_tv: installer needs to be rebuilt, so keep an eye on that, and you'll know when the CD's are updated08:22
BenCivoks: So I guess I broke it with my backports08:22
BenCivoks: Anyway to get access to a machine with that?08:22
ivoksi just backported everything to edgy08:23
ivokserrr... dapper08:23
svu_tvBenC, how could I keep an eye on the installer status? Is it available somewhere on the web?08:23
ivoksbut i can give you access08:23
ivoksit still has -9-generic kernel + jmicron patch08:23
BenCthat'll work08:23
BenCsvu_tv: current installer has -9 udeb's, so either today's daily is working, or tomorrow's will08:25
svu_tvBenC, ok, I will try. thanks08:26
ivokspidof: not found08:31
ivoksnice :)08:31
BenCivoks: Is the 160G drive I see connected to the JMicron or ICH8 SATA controller?08:34
ivoksjmicron08:34
ivoksi doesn't work when it's connected to ich808:34
BenCwould you be able to reboot it to the ICH8 controller?08:35
ivokstomorrow08:35
ivoks:/08:35
BenCthe ICH8 is being detected and probed08:35
BenCok08:35
ivoksthat's true08:35
ivoksbut it can't find disk08:35
ivoksi'll try finding another sata disk and conect it so we can test08:36
BenCexcellent, thanks08:36
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ivokshooray! :)08:37
BenCI think I'm overloading the box I put those JMicron boards in08:39
BenCit already had 4 SATA channels, and 4 IDE ports...now I've added another 8 IDE ports, and 4 SATA channels08:39
ivokslol08:40
zulheh kablooie soon08:40
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ivoksmaybe we should use BenC's computer for internet backup :)08:55
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ivoksah, forgot something...08:56
ivoksBenC: http://kerneltrap.org/node/7153 ; search for jmicron :/08:57
ivoks5 patched for jmicron :)08:57
ivokspatches08:57
BenCivoks: With the jmicron.c, most of the patches aren't needed08:58
ivoksagree08:58
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zullater10:54
Mithrandirzul: apparently, my problem is related to the tap:aio interface.  Using file:/ works fine10:55
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`ph8hi guys!11:25
`ph8I saw a *very* promising looking conversation earlier that looked like BenC had figured out the jmicron bug11:26
`ph8care to confirm/deny? :p11:26
`ph8I've only got two days till i go to uni anyway so i won't be able to install in that time - would be nice to know it's making its way into a build though11:26
BenCph8: -10.24 is working for me11:57
BenCit's uploaded11:57
`ph8fantastic111:59
`ph8and it'll take a few days to get into d-i for install?11:59
BenCyeah12:00
`ph8mega12:00
`ph8cheers12:00
`ph8do you know if we need any compat bios settings? like ahci over ide?12:00
`ph8s/over/instead of12:00
BenCnope, the pci quirks and jmicron ide driver should handle all that12:03
`ph8fantastico12:04
`ph8where do we send the gift basket? ;)12:04
`ph8thanks though, i know you worked hard on it for us :o)12:04
`ph8Should be ok for me to post on the bug report that it's fixed?12:05
`ph8if you havne't already, my datacentre's been hit by lightning and i don't have email access at the moment12:05
`ph8apparently they don't have a lightning rod? just a guess... :p12:05

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