[06:17] <joejaxx> hello all
[06:22] <joejaxx> i was wondering if you all knew who did the ubuntu splash?
[07:07] <troy_s> ping
[07:07] <troy_s> which splash?  usplash or logon splash?
[07:07] <troy_s> joejaxx?
[07:09] <joejaxx> troy_s: yes
[07:09] <joejaxx> the usplash
[07:10] <troy_s> which one?
[07:10] <troy_s> do you have a screenshot?
[07:10] <troy_s> because one is a temporary placeholder
[07:10] <joejaxx> troy_s: i meant the dapper one:)
[07:10] <troy_s> usplash in dapper is msikma
[07:11] <joejaxx> oh ok
[07:11] <troy_s> all known credits are in the archives
[07:11] <troy_s> of the wiki
[07:11] <joejaxx> does he or she come on often?
[07:11] <joejaxx> troy_s: oh i did not know that
[07:11] <troy_s> he.  and yes you can contact him via the mailing list, launchpad, etc.
[07:12] <joejaxx> oh alright
[07:12] <joejaxx> i was just wondering because i develop Fluxbuntu and i was wondering if he could help make a splash
[07:12] <joejaxx> troy_s: right now it looks like this
[07:13] <joejaxx> troy_s: btw i am graphically-disinclined
[07:13] <joejaxx> troy_s: http://fluxbuntu.org/usplash.png
[07:13] <troy_s> i am sure he would be interested in helping you.
[07:13] <joejaxx> troy_s: oh ok :)
[07:13] <troy_s> he collaborated on the edgy usplash
[07:13] <troy_s> but of course, most likely, all of the edgy artwork will revert to dapper's look.
[07:14] <joejaxx> troy_s: oh ok
[07:14] <joejaxx> i have not seen the new edgy splash actually
[07:14] <Madpilot> troy_s, no new look for edgy, hmm? Too bad, but I'm not terribly surprised.
[07:14] <troy_s> usplash has been revised and updated by sev eas in this channel
[07:14] <troy_s> madpilot -- its a political fest.
[07:14] <troy_s> i am sure there will be a last minute rush to get something out the door.
[07:15] <Madpilot> this has been the art team's shakedown release; DocTeam went thru this w/ Breezy then got it's sh*t together for Dapper
[07:15] <troy_s> joejaxx you know of the newer usplash implementation?
[07:15] <Madpilot> then kind of slumped for Edgy... :|
[07:15] <joejaxx> troy_s: no i do not
[07:15] <troy_s> madpilot -- it is a little more than getting shit together.
[07:15] <joejaxx> troy_s: you mean the one that supports 256 colours?
[07:15] <troy_s> joejaxx yes
[07:15] <troy_s> and animation
[07:16] <joejaxx> wow really?
[07:16] <joejaxx> is there any documentation on it?
[07:16] <troy_s> joejaxx yes.  it is quite capable now.  your best information source is sev eas in this channel.
[07:16] <joejaxx> ah ok
[07:17] <troy_s> Madpilot -- ultimately there is one client and his aesthetic is a bit tough to locate without an extensive bit of design book citing.
[07:18] <Madpilot> troy_s, true - at least documentation is a bit more objective
[07:18] <troy_s> currently there are a number of issues to resolve, some of which _might_ get addressed at the next summit.
[07:19] <troy_s> Madpilot well ultimately the ubuntu distribution probably needs to seriously evaluate exactly what it is.  the name, the ethics, etc, all connote a certain directionality to design -- even though there isn't a concrete outline / motif in place.
[07:19] <troy_s> Madpilot further, in order to be distinctive, it is going to require an overarching style, unless everyone is happy heading into the "middle gray" school of thought.
[07:20] <Madpilot> "corporate grey" :)
[07:20] <troy_s> Madpilot exactly.
[07:20] <Madpilot> "corporate blue" would be more accurate for desktops
[07:21] <troy_s> Madpilot well blue is well overdone
[07:21] <troy_s> Madpilot and anyone who attempts to bring up the "psychology of colour" should do a little research, as all research in that area has yielded completely different results.
[07:21] <troy_s> colour is learned and societal.
[07:32] <troy_s> well that was fun
[07:47] <joejaxx> :)
[07:48] <joejaxx> troy_s: you want to see two wallpapers that are included?
[07:48] <troy_s> for dapper?
[07:48] <troy_s> wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Archives should have them
[07:48] <troy_s> or are you speaking for fluxbox?
[07:48] <joejaxx> for fluxbuntu
[07:48] <troy_s> oh yes... i would love to.
[07:49] <joejaxx> http://fluxbuntu.org/sneakpeek.png
[07:49] <joejaxx> http://fluxbuntu.org/sneakpeek2.png
[07:50] <troy_s> flux is lovely.  i was a diehard blackbox fan for the longest time.
[07:50] <joejaxx> :)
[07:51] <troy_s> i though the default look of flux was similar to the default look of blackbox?
[07:51] <troy_s> cthulhu look or whatever it was.
[07:51] <joejaxx> yes that theme is called choke
[07:51] <joejaxx> the default one is MEta
[07:51] <joejaxx> Meta
[07:52] <troy_s> choke?
[07:52] <joejaxx> yes
[07:54] <troy_s> joejaxx do you have anyone who is responsible for the artwork in flux?
[07:54] <troy_s> because i know that there are probably a few people who are adept in the team who might enjoy tackling such a project.
[07:55] <troy_s> anyways, i must be off to bed due to earlier call tomorrow.
[07:55] <joejaxx> yes there are people but anyone is welcome to contribute :)
[07:55] <troy_s> be good joejaxx
[07:55] <joejaxx> troy_s: oh alright
[07:55] <joejaxx> troy_s: yes i will
[07:55] <troy_s> joejaxx contact the list
[07:55] <joejaxx> troy_s: goodnight :)
[07:55] <joejaxx> troy_s: ok
[07:55] <troy_s> joejaxx -- pretty certain that msikma might be able to help you out a little -- even provide a derivative of the edgy usplash
[07:56] <troy_s> which would be nice in terms of consistency...
[07:56] <troy_s> ok.  be good.
[07:56] <joejaxx> :)
[04:42] <kwwii> hi
[05:32] <mhb> hello fellow artworkers :o)
[07:20] <fschoep> troy_s: ping
[07:53] <fschoep> troy_s: if you're hiding, please come out :-)
[07:54] <PingunZ> Hey fschoep How is the battery charger doing .. ?
[08:12] <fschoep> PingunZ: it'll be here in three days or so :(
[08:13] <fschoep> until then it's Mutt and Konversation for IRC
[08:25] <fschoep> troy_s: If no one else can help, maybe you can hire the A-Team?
[08:51] <joejaxx> msikma: are you currently non-idle?
[08:52] <fschoep> troy_s: Come out with your hands above your head :)
[11:07] <fschoep> troy_s: ping
[11:09] <fschoep> troy_s: don't hide I'll be waiting here for an eternity to talk to you :)
[11:13] <msikma> joejaxx: I am now.
[11:13] <joejaxx> msikma: :)
[11:13] <joejaxx> msikma: i am the developer of fluxbuntu and i was wondering if you could help make a usplash for us
[11:14] <joejaxx> msikma: our usplashes work
[11:14] <joejaxx> but the palettes are not correct
[11:19] <joejaxx> fschoep: :P
[11:20] <fschoep> joejaxx: Hi there :)
[11:20] <joejaxx> fschoep: hello :)
[11:20] <fschoep> Fluxbuntu eh/
[11:20] <fschoep> I used Fluxbox for a while
[11:20] <fschoep> Then I figured my machine could run KDE
[11:20] <fschoep> And GNOME
[11:20] <joejaxx> ah
[11:20] <fschoep> But Fluxbox still attracts me somehow
[11:21] <joejaxx> that is why we are here the project anyway
[11:21] <fschoep> It's very lightweight
[11:21] <joejaxx> fluxbuntu runs on a vast amount of computers
[11:21] <joejaxx> :)
[11:21] <fschoep> How is the project going?
[11:21] <joejaxx> it is going quite well
[11:21] <fschoep> Good to hear
[11:21] <fschoep> Are you the only core dev?
[11:21] <joejaxx> i am going to be releasing Revision 2 in two days
[11:21] <joejaxx> fschoep: i am the lead developer but there are others on the development team
[11:22] <fschoep> I see
[11:22] <fschoep> Do you have a project page (too lazy to search right now) ?
[11:22] <joejaxx> fluxbuntu.org
[11:22] <fschoep> I should've known :)
[11:22] <joejaxx> :)
[11:22] <fschoep> Ah, nice site - very lightweight as well with the whites and greens
[11:23] <joejaxx> thanks
[11:23] <joejaxx> yes it is
[11:23] <fschoep> Who created the design?
[11:23] <joejaxx> it survived a digg effect
[11:23] <fschoep> Whoa :)
[11:23] <joejaxx> fschoep: it is an open source design i picked it out to compliment the lightwieghtness of fluxbuntu
[11:23] <fschoep> I see, good choice though
[11:24] <fschoep> Have you considered tweaking the CSS a bit?
[11:24] <joejaxx> which parts?
[11:24] <fschoep> The light green link color should be a tad bit darker to improve readability
[11:24] <joejaxx> interesting
[11:24] <joejaxx> i will take that into consideration
[11:24] <joejaxx> i will change that tonight
[11:25] <fschoep> I usually use a tool to evaluate such things:
[11:25] <fschoep> http://www.snook.ca/technical/colour_contrast/colour.html
[11:25] <joejaxx> wow thanks
[11:26] <fschoep> No problem, don't spend too much time twiddling with the colors, your distribution is what counts :)
[11:27] <fschoep> For reference, your background is FFFFFF and the link color itself is "8cd749"
[11:27] <fschoep> Enter it and see the result :)
[11:28] <fschoep> You might want to try the websafe #009900 color for the link
[11:28] <fschoep> Anyway, let's get to the interesting part
[11:28] <fschoep> Do you have some screenshots up?
[11:28] <joejaxx> fschoep: yes
[11:28] <joejaxx> for the new one
[11:29] <joejaxx> http://fluxbuntu.org/sneakpeek.png & sneakpeek2.png
[11:29] <joejaxx> the default is the second one
[11:29] <joejaxx> but the firstone is included also
[11:29] <joejaxx> first one*
[11:29] <joejaxx> wallpaper wise i mean
[11:31] <fschoep> Looking good!
[11:31] <fschoep> I notice icons on the desktop, is that a new feature in Fluxbox?
[11:32] <joejaxx> no
[11:32] <joejaxx> that is rox
[11:32] <fschoep> I see
[11:32] <joejaxx> and to make an icon on there
[11:32] <joejaxx> all you do it drag sometihng to there
[11:33] <joejaxx> fschoep: it can be turned off if it is not to your liking
[11:33] <fschoep> Oh, I think I'd like it
[11:33] <joejaxx> :)
[11:33] <fschoep> I always tweaked my menu file to have apps right in my menu when I opened it, but this is nice as well
[11:33] <joejaxx> well the menu updates in fluxbuntu
[11:33] <fschoep> I used Fluxbox at release 0.9.7 I think
[11:34] <joejaxx> like for the alpha rev1 release i installed firefox and it came up in my menu afterwards
[11:34] <joejaxx> fschoep: oh ok
[11:34] <fschoep> Auto menu updates is nice, my distribution (I think Mandrake 8.2 or so) didn't have that at the time for Fluxbox :)
[11:35] <joejaxx> :)
[11:36] <fschoep> troy_s: Are you there by chance?
[11:37] <fschoep> msikma: Are you there?
[11:40] <fschoep> Seveas: Are you there?
[11:40] <fschoep> I seem a bit desperate for a chat, but this is normal, folks :)
[11:40] <joejaxx> fschoep: i think everyone is away at the current moment :\
[11:40] <fschoep> You're here, right ;) ?
[11:40] <joejaxx> yeah :)
[11:40] <joejaxx> i am just in alot of channels
[11:41] <joejaxx> ~40
[11:41] <fschoep> That's a lot indeed, I'm only in here
[11:41] <joejaxx> all on different servers
[11:41] <joejaxx> fschoep: :)
[11:41] <fschoep> Whoa and you're not going insane?
[11:41] <joejaxx> nope lol
[11:41] <fschoep> When I started in July I hated IRC
[11:41] <fschoep> I'm getting used to it slowly
[11:41] <fschoep> I might start to like it even
[11:42] <joejaxx> fschoep: :)
[12:01] <fschoep> troy_s: I know it's the other way around usually, but if you have a few minutes...