[02:22] <simtower> hi
[02:22] <XTorchedX> so does ubuntu work on laptops?
[02:23] <simtower> pretty good
[02:23] <simtower> the biggest problem is no support for voltage scaling so my laptop gets really hot
[02:23] <simtower> but other than that i like it
[02:24] <simtower> you can do voltage scaling but you have to roll your own kernel... kindof defeats the point of using ubuntu
[02:26] <jldugger> no voltage scaling?
[02:26] <XTorchedX> there'd be a lot of proprietry driver issues wouldn't there
[02:26] <simtower> well it does voltage scaling but only what the acpi table says, not user overridable
[02:26] <simtower> mine is kinda on the high side
[02:27] <simtower> processor bumps up against the thermal limit at 89C with the values in that table
[02:27] <crimsun> XTorchedX: ati, nvidia, madwifi-ng are included
[02:27] <XTorchedX> ahh ok
[02:28] <jldugger> what's it take to get the nvidia driver to cooperate with hibernate?
[02:38] <simtower> a miracle
[02:44] <jldugger> heh
[02:45] <jldugger> supposedly people have gotten it to work
[02:45] <simtower> recommend you start pray to your deity of choice asap
[02:48] <jldugger> strangely, i have problems with xrandr
[02:49] <jldugger> it wont work until i control-alt-bksp
[02:52] <jldugger> but thats not a big concern until the wacom drivers are fixed
[03:06] <simtower> yes i agree
[01:48] <malice_> I am using a wireless PC card to get on the net on my laptop on wlan0 will this work to change my mac addy or do I need to change eth0 to wlan0 and what about the ether after the hw?
[01:48] <malice_> ifconfig eth0 hw ether 02:01:02:03:04:08 
[01:50] <Treenaks> why would you want to change your mac address?
[01:50] <malice_> I do not want people to know who I am. I already use tor
[01:50] <Treenaks> changing your mac won't help
[01:51] <malice_> it wont? 
[01:51] <Treenaks> only the computers connected directly to you 'see' your mac-address
[01:51] <Treenaks> next router hop -> no more mac address, only IP
[01:51] <malice_> I would use a wireless connection at work
[01:51] <Treenaks> (well, actually, the mac of the router;s interface)
[01:51] <malice_> we are not really supposed to use it
[01:51] <Treenaks> then don't
[01:52] <malice_> so if I use the wireless connection at work they never see my mac?
[01:52] <giftnudel> there are usually reaons for rules ...
[01:52] <giftnudel> malice_: oh, they will see your mac, just in the internet you won't bee seen
[01:53] <malice_> ok now that is why I asked if that command would work to spoof it
[01:53] <malice_> I know I have to turn it off before and turn it back on
[01:53] <giftnudel> I don't know how to do that, or if the command will work, I just know that it is somehow possible
[01:54] <Treenaks> I'd say: man ifconfig
[01:54] <malice_> I will try it later today :)
[01:54] <Nailor> But what does the spoofing help?
[01:54] <Nailor> Unless you change it frequently enough
[01:54] <malice_> Spoofing will then not have them track me
[01:54] <malice_> on my laptop
[01:55] <malice_> be able to point the finger at my laptop
[01:55] <Nailor> Well if you use a different mac, they propably can figure out what computer is using that mac anyway :p
[01:56] <Nailor> And well, I really don't get your point why you're doing that, but that's no my problem either :P
[01:57] <malice_> I do not have a life
[01:57] <malice_> :)
[01:57] <Nailor> =)