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| rodarvus | @now Sao_Paulo | 03:09 |
| Ubugtu | Current time in America/Sao_Paulo: September 26 2006, 10:09:27 - Next meeting: Technical Board in 6 hours 50 minutes | 03:09 |
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| Toadstool | @schedule Los_Angeles | 05:39 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for America/Los_Angeles: 26 Sep 13:00: Technical Board | 27 Sep 13:00: Edubuntu | 28 Sep 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 29 Sep 09:00: Ubuntu Desktop Effects Team | 03 Oct 10:00: Community Council | 04 Oct 05:00: Edubuntu | 05:39 |
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| sharms | @schedule chicago | 05:45 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for America/Chicago: 26 Sep 15:00: Technical Board | 27 Sep 15:00: Edubuntu | 28 Sep 18:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 29 Sep 11:00: Ubuntu Desktop Effects Team | 03 Oct 12:00: Community Council | 04 Oct 07:00: Edubuntu | 05:45 |
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| nixternal | almost did a chicago sched until i seen ya already did it sharms ;) | 06:14 |
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| sharms | :) | 06:28 |
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| Laifen | re | 07:12 |
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| GNAM | @schedule rome | 07:19 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for Europe/Rome: 26 Sep 22:00: Technical Board | 27 Sep 22:00: Edubuntu | 29 Sep 01:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 29 Sep 18:00: Ubuntu Desktop Effects Team | 03 Oct 19:00: Community Council | 04 Oct 14:00: Edubuntu | 07:19 |
| cbx33 | @schedule GMT | 07:29 |
| cbx33 | @schedule london | 07:29 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for Europe/London: 26 Sep 21:00: Technical Board | 27 Sep 21:00: Edubuntu | 29 Sep 00:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 29 Sep 17:00: Ubuntu Desktop Effects Team | 03 Oct 18:00: Community Council | 04 Oct 13:00: Edubuntu | 07:29 |
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| lguerra | Ubugtu calendar paris | 08:10 |
| zul | @schedule montreal | 08:17 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for America/Montreal: 26 Sep 16:00: Technical Board | 27 Sep 16:00: Edubuntu | 28 Sep 19:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 29 Sep 12:00: Ubuntu Desktop Effects Team | 03 Oct 13:00: Community Council | 04 Oct 08:00: Edubuntu | 08:17 |
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| Laifen | Bonne nuit tous | 09:00 |
| Laifen | A demain | 09:00 |
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| mc44_ | @now | 09:48 |
| Ubugtu | Current time in Etc/UTC: September 26 2006, 19:48:51 - Next meeting: Technical Board in 11 minutes | 09:48 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:Ubugtu] : Current meeting: Technical Board | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 27 Sep 20:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 28 Sep 23:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 29 Sep 16:00 UTC: Ubuntu Desktop Effects Team | 03 Oct 17:00 UTC: Community Council | 04 Oct 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | ||
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| Keybuk | $(appropriate greeting for your timezone) | 09:59 |
| cbx33 | heh | 09:59 |
| mjg59 | Evening | 09:59 |
| Fujitsu | Hi Keybuk. | 09:59 |
| bddebian | $(appropriate grumble) | 09:59 |
| cbx33 | hey bddebian | 10:00 |
| Fujitsu | Early morning here... I don't do 5:30am :S | 10:00 |
| bddebian | Hi cbx33 | 10:00 |
| Keybuk | so let's get started | 10:00 |
| cbx33 | Fujitsu, yikes...Iget up at that time every day | 10:00 |
| Keybuk | a few ubuntu-dev candidates today | 10:00 |
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| Fujitsu | Where a few == 3, I believe. | 10:00 |
| Keybuk | q-funk, Fujitsu, cbx33 | 10:00 |
| mdz | morning | 10:00 |
| ajmitch | morning | 10:00 |
| Keybuk | though it seems Martin isn't around | 10:00 |
| zul | afternoon | 10:01 |
| Keybuk | if anyone can ping him via other means, do so | 10:01 |
| Keybuk | Fujitsu: that means you're up first; please introduce yourself | 10:01 |
| dholbach | q-funk is not on irc.gnome.org either | 10:01 |
| Fujitsu | OK. | 10:01 |
| Fujitsu | I'm William Grant, from Melbourne, Australia. | 10:02 |
| Fujitsu | I've been hanging out with the MOTU for a few months now, and started helping out about 3 months ago. | 10:02 |
| Fujitsu | In that time, I've handled a lot of syncs and merges, as well as a few new upstream versions, and some bugfixes. | 10:02 |
| Fujitsu | In the future I'd like to mainly help LaserJock and co. with MOTU Science, and help with Debian collaboration. | 10:02 |
| Fujitsu | Er, that's the end :P | 10:03 |
| Keybuk | tell us about MOTU Science | 10:03 |
| Keybuk | what kinds of thing is that aiming to bring to Ubuntu | 10:03 |
| mdz | Fujitsu: who has been uploading your changes for you? | 10:04 |
| Fujitsu | Well, there are already quite a few new science packages in Ubuntu that aren't yet in Debian. | 10:04 |
| Fujitsu | mdz: Primarily crimsun, but Hobbsee, LaserJock, Gloubiboulga to start. | 10:04 |
| Fujitsu | And MOTU Science aims to make Ubuntu a viable alternative for scientists | 10:05 |
| dholbach | people from ubuntu-universe-sponsors know his mail address quite well - although crimsun is always quicker. | 10:05 |
| Keybuk | crimsun can't be here today, but has mailed in his advocation for you | 10:05 |
| bddebian | hmm | 10:05 |
| Fujitsu | Goodo, Keybuk. | 10:05 |
| Keybuk | how do you think Debian collaboration can be improved? | 10:06 |
| bddebian | Boy, that's a loaded question ;-) | 10:06 |
| Fujitsu | Well, I was talking with a Debian developer just yesterday, I hadn't spoken to him before. | 10:06 |
| Fujitsu | He said that he didn't really like the automated Ubuntu patch submission, and that he'd generally handle patches only when a bug had been filed. | 10:07 |
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| Fujitsu | I think this needs to be worked on. | 10:07 |
| Fujitsu | Because I believe a lot of DDs have the same attitude. | 10:07 |
| Fujitsu | (although some obviously have a much more negative one) | 10:07 |
| Keybuk | do you think DDs would be happy about adding a further 65,000 bugs to their BTS? | 10:07 |
| Keybuk | how would they react to those that are clearly Ubuntu specific, or clearly duplicates? | 10:08 |
| Fujitsu | I'm not quite sure, but I know most aren't happy to just have a big monolithic patch... | 10:08 |
| Fujitsu | Keybuk, that's what needs to be figured out. | 10:08 |
| Fujitsu | At the moment, MoM just sends everything. | 10:08 |
| Fujitsu | Even if it's Ubuntu-specific, or a duplicate, whatever. | 10:08 |
| Fujitsu | And some of the deltas are /gigantic/, and DDs are unlikely to work through those. | 10:09 |
| Fujitsu | I'm not sure exactly the best way to go about improving collaboration, but it needs to be done. | 10:09 |
| Keybuk | arguably the difficulty in sending useful patches back is a fault of Debian for having a fucking-stupid(tm) source package format and manager ... but I won't digress further :p | 10:10 |
| Fujitsu | Maybe true. | 10:11 |
| Fujitsu | For example, the guy I was talking to yesterday maintains 915resolution. | 10:11 |
| Keybuk | as a MOTU, all the work you will be doing in universe increases this divergence from Debian | 10:11 |
| Fujitsu | I know, yes. | 10:11 |
| Keybuk | how will you balance this with your desire to improve collaboration? | 10:11 |
| LaserJock | Keybuk: "all"? | 10:11 |
| Keybuk | LaserJock: anything that's not a sync request | 10:12 |
| Fujitsu | Divergence isn't mutually exclusive with collaboration. | 10:12 |
| LaserJock | Keybuk: pushing patches back is part of MOTU work as well | 10:12 |
| Fujitsu | I would, where feasible, submit appropriate bugs in the bug tracker for the package in Debian, if the fixes indeed applied to Debian too. | 10:12 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock, exactly. | 10:12 |
| ogra | LaserJock, ++ | 10:12 |
| Fujitsu | (just not a whole lot of people push them back) | 10:12 |
| bddebian | Bite your tongue | 10:12 |
| LaserJock | minimizing and maintaining divergence is the MOTUs work | 10:12 |
| Keybuk | ok | 10:13 |
| Keybuk | mjg59, mdz : any questions? | 10:13 |
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| mdz | he'll brb | 10:14 |
| Keybuk | oops | 10:14 |
| cbx33 | heh | 10:14 |
| Fujitsu | Yes, oops :P | 10:14 |
| mdz | LaserJock: what do you think is the most important area where Ubuntu needs improvement today, technically speaking? | 10:15 |
| mjg59 | LaserJock: How do you think we can encourage scientific users to use Ubuntu? | 10:15 |
| bddebian | Tell him he can't get in unless he does azureus ;-) | 10:15 |
| Fujitsu | Er, me, you mean? | 10:15 |
| mjg59 | (Oops - go with mdz first) | 10:15 |
| mjg59 | Erm | 10:15 |
| mjg59 | Yes, Fujitsu | 10:15 |
| LaserJock | heh, I'm not the one going for MOTU today ;-) | 10:15 |
| mdz | Fujitsu: yes, sorry | 10:15 |
| Fujitsu | Aha, good... | 10:15 |
| ogra | LaserJock, say education :P | 10:15 |
| LaserJock | ogra: of course ;-) | 10:16 |
| ogra | *g* | 10:16 |
| Fujitsu | Well, actually, I agree with ogra. There is an enormous lacking of educational Free software. gcompris is one thing, but there's an enormous void in the education sector. | 10:16 |
| Fujitsu | But science is also lacking. | 10:16 |
| mdz | Fujitsu: there is a lack of such software, or a lack of it in Ubuntu? | 10:16 |
| Fujitsu | mdz, there is a lack of such software in the FOSS community in general. | 10:17 |
| LaserJock | mdz: lack of good software with good licenses :/ | 10:17 |
| cbx33 | Fujitsu, ++ | 10:17 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock, exactly. | 10:17 |
| Keybuk | how is that solvable by the MOTU? | 10:17 |
| LaserJock | MOTU Science keeps track of 400+ packages | 10:17 |
| mdz | Fujitsu: while we occasionally develop new software in-house, Ubuntu as a project is primarily about integration, bringing together the software which is available | 10:17 |
| Fujitsu | Well, there are some things that are not yet packaged (in science moreso). | 10:17 |
| Fujitsu | mdz, noted, but there is some more stuff we can package, especially in science. | 10:18 |
| minghua | there is always chance to introduce some software unavailable in debian into ubuntu multiverse first | 10:19 |
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| pygi | minghua, multiverse??! | 10:19 |
| pygi | why would you put free/open source stuff in multiverse? | 10:19 |
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| mdz | Fujitsu: that is what MOTU science is doing today, yes? | 10:19 |
| LaserJock | because it isn't free | 10:19 |
| minghua | pygi: yes, some scientific software has non-DFSG-free licenses | 10:19 |
| Fujitsu | mdz, yes. | 10:19 |
| Fujitsu | mdz, as well as maintaining well over 400 packages. | 10:20 |
| minghua | pygi: and there are just no alternatives | 10:20 |
| pygi | minghua, ah, then somebody should make sure alternatives are produced :) | 10:20 |
| mdz | Fujitsu: that is a lot of packages. how do you keep track of them all? | 10:20 |
| LaserJock | mdz: me ;-) | 10:20 |
| mdz | there are only about 10 members of motuscience | 10:20 |
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| cbx33 | heheh LaserJock's brain holds the key ;) | 10:20 |
| Fujitsu | mdz, yeah, LaserJock does a lot, but I keep track of quite a number. | 10:21 |
| Fujitsu | mdz, most of them aren't MOTUs. | 10:21 |
| mdz | LaserJock: how do you track bugs for them? | 10:21 |
| Fujitsu | mdz, the subscribed bugs page. | 10:21 |
| mdz | I noticed that motuscience isn't a bug contact for any packages | 10:21 |
| Fujitsu | mdz, yes we are... | 10:21 |
| mdz | ah, never mind, wrong page | 10:21 |
| LaserJock | for all 400+ | 10:21 |
| mdz | it's not a *maintainer* of any packages, but it is a bug contact | 10:21 |
| Fujitsu | Otherwise it would just be impossible to manage :P | 10:21 |
| Fujitsu | mdz, yes. | 10:21 |
| LaserJock | I also maintain a list using lucas's scripts | 10:21 |
| mdz | LaserJock: lucas's scripts? | 10:22 |
| Fujitsu | MultiDistroTools. | 10:22 |
| ogra | m-science is a very valuable source for information for edubuntu btw ... | 10:22 |
| LaserJock | http://tiber.tauware.de/~laserjock/motuscience/all.html for instance | 10:22 |
| minghua | yes, we track a lot of packages, and from what I see, motu-science is very responsive to bug reports | 10:22 |
| minghua | and a lot of credits goes to Fujitsu | 10:22 |
| Fujitsu | Yes, LaserJock's lists are incredibly useful, and make managing the large number of packages sane. | 10:22 |
| LaserJock | but we need MOTUs in MOTU Science | 10:22 |
| LaserJock | :-) | 10:22 |
| Fujitsu | Thanks, minghua :) | 10:22 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock, there are 3 at the moment, no? | 10:22 |
| LaserJock | minghua, tritium, and myself | 10:22 |
| LaserJock | although bddebian is an honorary member | 10:23 |
| === bddebian was feeling left out :-) | ||
| mdz | LaserJock: it looks a bit like packages.qa.debian.org | 10:23 |
| minghua | (and I am not active during edgy release, that should change for edgy+1) | 10:23 |
| LaserJock | mdz:mhm | 10:23 |
| LaserJock | mdz: I also track the difference between Ubuntu and Debian in terms of packages they don't have | 10:23 |
| LaserJock | mdz: we tend to loose a lot of new Debian packages | 10:24 |
| LaserJock | http://tiber.tauware.de/~laserjock/motuscience/ud_diff.html | 10:24 |
| mdz | ok, thanks for satisfying my curiosity, though we're digressing a bit | 10:24 |
| rodarvus | LaserJock: you really mean 'loose' or lose? | 10:24 |
| mdz | anything further for Fujitsu? | 10:24 |
| Keybuk | nothing from me | 10:24 |
| Keybuk | mjg59: ? | 10:24 |
| Fujitsu | Like, I went through the list of packages in Debian and not Ubuntu a couple of days ago, and there are 32 new ones, though 12 are in contrib/non-free. | 10:24 |
| mjg59 | I'm happy | 10:25 |
| LaserJock | rodarvus: one of the 2 ;-) | 10:25 |
| Keybuk | ok votes | 10:25 |
| mdz | +1 from me | 10:25 |
| mjg59 | +1 | 10:25 |
| Keybuk | +1 from me, have seen a fair bit from Fujitsu | 10:25 |
| Keybuk | Fujitsu: congrats | 10:25 |
| Fujitsu | Yay :) | 10:25 |
| Fujitsu | Thanks :) | 10:25 |
| dholbach | congratulations Fujitsu | 10:25 |
| bddebian | w00t, congrats Fujitsu | 10:25 |
| lfittl | congrats Fujitsu | 10:25 |
| cbx33 | congratulations Fujitsu | 10:25 |
| rodarvus | Fujitsu, congratulations! | 10:25 |
| YukiCuss | \o/ Fujitsu | 10:25 |
| ogra | congrats Fujitsu ! | 10:25 |
| mjg59 | cbx33: Want a go? | 10:25 |
| cbx33 | mjg59, sure | 10:25 |
| === ogra cheers | ||
| cbx33 | I'm Pete Savage, aka cbx33, I'm currently working as an IT manager at a school in Southampton UK. I became an Ubuntu/Edubuntu Member about a month after helping out in the Edubuntu community. Originally working on a few bug fixes and documentation. | 10:25 |
| cbx33 | Recently I have been working a lot more on developing applications and completing specifications. I recently completed the Student Control Panel spec, as well as writing gisomount, and working on development of grasynco and gallium | 10:25 |
| cbx33 | I would love to get into more packaging, and hope to attend the UDS, where I can gain a better insight into the development process. I would like to develop and package more educational applications for Edubuntu and would one day hope to become a core-dev. | 10:25 |
| === pygi cheers also :P | ||
| mjg59 | cbx33: So who have you been working with in Ubuntu so far? | 10:26 |
| === rodarvus cheers too | ||
| cbx33 | ogra, LaserJock, rodarvus, pygi | 10:26 |
| mdz | cbx33: are you the same pete savage who contributed the sound theme, or a different one? | 10:26 |
| cbx33 | many many people | 10:26 |
| cbx33 | mdz, I am indeed | 10:26 |
| ogra | cbx33, was the greatest edubuntu developer in the edgy cycle ... he started learning pythion and basic packaging at the beginnign of the cycle and actually finished student-control-panel and packaged it ... | 10:26 |
| ogra | as well as his other stuff (gisomount etc) | 10:27 |
| Keybuk | cbx33: who has been doing uploads for you so far? | 10:27 |
| Keybuk | have you done many? | 10:27 |
| cbx33 | ogra, mainly | 10:27 |
| pygi | cbx33 did a marvelous job really.... | 10:27 |
| cbx33 | and LaserJock too | 10:27 |
| ogra | it was very very impressing seeing him getting to speed so fast | 10:27 |
| cbx33 | Keybuk, total number of pacakges? | 10:28 |
| cbx33 | 4 | 10:28 |
| LaserJock | He was also my first proofreader *cough*victim*cough* for the Ubuntu Packaging Guide | 10:28 |
| ogra | (on a sidenote the new edubuntu artwork and the ubuntu sounds are also from him, done aside the development he did for us) | 10:28 |
| rodarvus | cbx33 has contributed code, new packages, ideas for edubuntu, and is very helpful & interested, generally speaking | 10:28 |
| pygi | rodarvus, don't forget sounds and artwork :) | 10:28 |
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| rodarvus | pygi, yes, that too | 10:28 |
| mjg59 | cbx33: So what would yo | 10:29 |
| mjg59 | Oops | 10:29 |
| mdz | cbx33: is Ubuntu the first free software project you've been involved with? | 10:29 |
| cbx33 | mdz, I tried to get involved with Fedora at one point | 10:29 |
| cbx33 | but found the community to be rather eliteist | 10:29 |
| cbx33 | after using ubuntu for about 2months I decided to give the ubuntu community a try | 10:29 |
| cbx33 | as Edubuntu fitted in so well with my work | 10:30 |
| cbx33 | I also started try ing to create a distro, Devenix | 10:30 |
| cbx33 | which was goign to be an entire php development studio on a USB stick....bootable anwhere.... | 10:30 |
| cbx33 | but this has taken a backseat as Ubuntu is so much fun to work on ;) | 10:31 |
| mdz | cbx33: what made the Ubuntu community different? | 10:31 |
| cbx33 | (incidentlt Devenix started as a knoppix prototype but will now be Ubuntu) | 10:31 |
| cbx33 | mdz, primarily the attitude | 10:31 |
| cbx33 | you can get to speak to the "real" people developing things.....not just people using them | 10:32 |
| cbx33 | and people are very ready to help you out | 10:32 |
| cbx33 | I remember first going into the motu channel after wanting to find out more about creating a customized live CD, bddebian and dholbach were the first two people I spoke to in ther | 10:32 |
| mdz | cbx33: what kind of difficulties did you have trying to do the same in fedora? | 10:33 |
| mdz | was it harder to locate the right people? | 10:33 |
| cbx33 | for a start the activity was low, and the technical knowledge seemed lacking | 10:33 |
| cbx33 | people here either know the answer, can point you to the right doc....or ask you to write the doc when youre done ;) | 10:33 |
| cbx33 | and if people don;t know the answer they tell you | 10:34 |
| cbx33 | as opposed to just ignoring you | 10:34 |
| cbx33 | I don;t feel like a little fish here.....I feel like I actually contribute :D | 10:34 |
| mjg59 | cbx33: So you're planning on continuing in much the same way that you currently are? | 10:34 |
| mdz | cbx33: in what way do you feel that joining MOTU will help you in your work? | 10:34 |
| cbx33 | mjg59, yes, but getting much more involed in pacakging | 10:35 |
| mjg59 | cbx33: Have you done much packaging so far? | 10:35 |
| cbx33 | hopefully helping LaserJock out more in MOTU science | 10:35 |
| mjg59 | Rather than simply working on existing packages? | 10:35 |
| cbx33 | mjg59, I have done a small amount of pacakging, but I hope people find my pacakges well presented and compelte | 10:36 |
| ogra | mjg59, he did some from scratch and took over student-control-panel from me which i sponsor for him for main | 10:36 |
| ogra | the quality was excellent, even the amount wasnt big yet | 10:36 |
| LaserJock | mjg59: I also helped him learn how to package with is own upstream product gisomount | 10:36 |
| cbx33 | LaserJock, ++ | 10:36 |
| LaserJock | mjg59: but I found I really didn't need to help him | 10:36 |
| mjg59 | Ok, sounds good | 10:36 |
| cbx33 | hehe | 10:37 |
| cbx33 | LaserJock, it was your great docs ;) | 10:37 |
| mdz | Keybuk: anything further? | 10:37 |
| Keybuk | nothing from me | 10:37 |
| ogra | cbx33, btw a good comunity doesnt only consist of people helping you, its also a matter how you ask your questions ;) | 10:37 |
| cbx33 | ogra, noted | 10:37 |
| ogra | its a two way thing ;) | 10:37 |
| cbx33 | of course ;) | 10:38 |
| mdz | ok, votes | 10:38 |
| mjg59 | +1 based on testimony and impressive contributions so far | 10:38 |
| mdz | +1, thanks for your contributions | 10:38 |
| Keybuk | +1, I think in any circumstance where you haven't got skills so far, you know where and who to ask and how to help others learn after you | 10:39 |
| pygi | congrats cbx33 :) | 10:39 |
| rodarvus | cbx33, congratulations! | 10:39 |
| cbx33 | w00t....thank you everyone | 10:39 |
| === ogra hugs cbx33 | ||
| dholbach | congratulations cbx33 | 10:39 |
| Fujitsu | Congratulations, cbx33! | 10:39 |
| ogra | well deserved ! | 10:39 |
| bddebian | w00t go cbx33 | 10:39 |
| === cbx33 hugs............everyone | ||
| Keybuk | I don't believe q-funk has arrived | 10:39 |
| mdz | cbx33: congratulations and welcome | 10:39 |
| cbx33 | thank you mdz | 10:39 |
| mjg59 | Do we have any other business? | 10:39 |
| Keybuk | and I'm not aware of any people pending ubuntu-core-dev membersjip | 10:39 |
| mdz | we need to clear out the ubuntu-dev proposed members list | 10:40 |
| Keybuk | what's the procedure for doing that? | 10:40 |
| mdz | what's needed is to email each applicant and find out what their status is | 10:40 |
| Keybuk | get dholbach to mail them? | 10:41 |
| dholbach | I mailed each and everyone of them | 10:41 |
| dholbach | (that had a public mail address) | 10:41 |
| dholbach | and notified mdz of everyone of them mailing me back | 10:41 |
| mdz | dholbach: so these are the ones who did not respond? | 10:41 |
| dholbach | yes | 10:41 |
| Keybuk | shall we decline them all, they will get a mail as a result | 10:42 |
| mdz | dholbach: if you can confirm the dates when you mailed them, I'll expire the applications | 10:42 |
| dholbach | I usually do it the day or the next day I work, but yeah - I can compile a list and double-check | 10:42 |
| Keybuk | mdz: there's a mass-decline facility now | 10:42 |
| LaserJock | heh | 10:42 |
| Keybuk | we should do the same for core-dev | 10:42 |
| mdz | dholbach: it would be good form to note the date of the mail in the message when they're declined; I wouldn't want to accidentally decline someone inapporpriately | 10:44 |
| dholbach | ok, i'll mail you the list tomorrow | 10:44 |
| mdz | dholbach: no big hurry, it can wait until after beta | 10:44 |
| mdz | sometime before the next TB meeting | 10:44 |
| dholbach | ok | 10:44 |
| bddebian | Yeah, whack me :-) | 10:45 |
| ogra | just dont wipe sbalneav, he just applied ;) | 10:45 |
| sbalneav | :) | 10:45 |
| mdz | ok, I think we're done | 10:45 |
| mc44_ | I just had a quick question; re: mozilla/debian trademark business, I gather some ubuntu people are talking to Mozilla about this, would it be possible for someone to send a mail to -devel about whats happening/or when a decision is made, to clarify the situation? | 10:46 |
| mdz | mc44_: I have a dialog with Mike Connor at Mozilla on this issue | 10:46 |
| mdz | that's all there is to say so far; if there's news, I'll mail -devel | 10:46 |
| mc44_ | mdz, great, thanks | 10:46 |
| mdz | last email was yesterday | 10:46 |
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| mdz | ok, thanks everyone | 10:47 |
| mdz | adjourned | 10:47 |
| mc44_ | mdz, yeah, i would have waited to ask but as it was TB today.. :) | 10:47 |
| mdz | such a lively crowd tonight if I may say | 10:47 |
| ogra | :) | 10:47 |
| LaserJock | :-) | 10:47 |
| ogra | compared to the last three meetings for sure | 10:47 |
| pygi | :-D | 10:47 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: knetworkmanager tested and working, I'm responding to timo | 11:21 |
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| sabdfl | evening all | 11:23 |
| Fujitsu | Hi sabdfl :) | 11:23 |
| pygi | evening | 11:23 |
| sabdfl | am i too late for the TB action? | 11:24 |
| ajmitch | yes, it finished awhile ago | 11:24 |
| sabdfl | ah. well, i was busily writing up sponsorships for UDS Mountain View :-) | 11:25 |
| ajmitch | we'll know by monday, I take it? | 11:25 |
| sabdfl | in your case, sooner if you want | 11:26 |
| Toadstool | that's so frustrating, for UDS Paris I was 400kms away from the summit but it was during my exams and now I am a few hundreds miles away from Moutain View but I'll be working :/ | 11:28 |
| bddebian | Toadstool: Me too :-( | 11:28 |
| pygi | Toadstool, bddebian :'( | 11:29 |
| Toadstool | (and I am supposed to be working now :p) | 11:29 |
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