[12:23] what happens if I delete /etc/network/interfaces? will the network GUI recreate it for me? [12:23] LaserJock: should do, I think [12:26] nice, that didn't work either === lupine_85 [n=lupine@nick.lupine.me.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:44] what is the best practise format for mentioning closed bugs in changelogs? * Foo. (Closes Malone #123)? [12:44] Malone bug 123 in rosetta "There's no direct way to see the project info when translating it" [Medium,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/123 [12:44] Ubugtu: thx [12:45] LaserJock: so what's the issue? [12:46] ah well [12:46] no dns or gateway === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:47] grr [12:47] hola [12:47] ok, so the GUI network configuration is totally screwed up for me [12:47] heya zul [12:47] I can get eth0 up [12:47] LaserJock: ouch [12:48] but I don't know how to add dns servers from CLI [12:48] /etc/resolv.conf [12:48] you edit /etc/resolv.conf [12:48] LaserJock: one per line in resolve.conf [12:48] yeah, but .... [12:48] things are really weirded out there [12:49] resolv.conf seems to get overwritten on reboot === Fujitsu slays Tor-people. [12:49] lathiat@chiana:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf [12:49] search lathiat.net [12:49] nameserver 203.59.132.30 [12:49] They don't actually mention the 0.1.0.18 changes in 0.1.0.18... [12:49] LaserJock: is resolvconf installed (the package) [12:49] means something is your interfaces is set to dhcp probably [12:49] or that [12:49] or do you use pppoe? [12:50] Lathiat: yep [12:50] no ppoe [12:50] I'm on a school network with static ips === lupine_85 [n=lupine@nick.lupine.me.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:50] resolvconf can fiddle with your file depending on things [12:50] check /etc/network/interfaces [12:50] for some dns-* lines [12:50] done that [12:50] I have dns- lines [12:50] but it doesn't help [12:50] iface eth0 inet static <-- correct ? [12:50] yep [12:51] what are they beign changed to? [12:51] hrm and no other interfactes have dhcp enabled ? [12:51] no [12:51] hrm , yea whats it being changed to ? [12:51] Lathiat: nothing is being changed I don't think [12:52] well whats 'going wrong' ? [12:52] no DNS [12:52] I think my gateway might be ook [12:52] as in dns 'doesnt work' [12:52] but maybe not [12:52] right [12:52] whats in /etc/resolv.conf [12:52] when its not working [12:52] and what do you have to do to fix it [12:52] ? [12:52] well, there is no /etc/resolv.conf exactly [12:53] it's a sym link [12:53] yeh thats the resolvconf stuff [12:53] try purge the resolvconf package [12:53] to /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf [12:53] and see if that helps [12:53] resolvconf always drives me nuts [12:53] that measn yoru dns-* lines in e/tc/network/interfaces wont work but you can set it manually [12:53] can I run without resolveconf? [12:54] yeh [12:54] just set the file manually after you purge it [12:54] its just a convenience thign [12:54] if it scausing problems remove it and see if it helps [12:54] >:( [12:54] it is?!! [12:54] I had a perfectly fine running system [12:55] I've had that resolve.conf forever === LaserJock counts to 10 ;-) [12:55] heh [12:56] whop looks like netwrking got reset === ajmitch waves farewell to laserjock [12:58] heh woops [12:59] wow php4 security isa mess [12:59] no wonder its in universe [01:00] Hahah. [01:00] i set out on a task of securityt updating it, i think i'm goign to be here a while ;) [01:00] Lathiat: infinity will love you, I'm sure [01:01] I'm currently almost finished with a Tor security flaw in Breezy and Dapper, but Hoary is another question entirely. [01:01] is that supposed to be funny or serious? I'm not sure if theres a joke in ther eim missing.. ;p [01:01] php security peroid is a mess out of the box [01:01] heh gl [01:01] Fujitsu, horay eol is soon isnt it ? [01:02] hoary* [01:02] imbrandon, a month, yes. [01:02] but i run php4 on a breezy and a dapper server so i'd definitely like to fix it :) [01:02] so if I want to have a package foo_1.2-1 from Debian NEW in edgy, should I upload foo_1.2-1ubuntu1 or foo_1.2-0ubuntu1 or what? [01:02] not php5 ? [01:02] nope [01:02] php5 has compatability issues [01:02] so on large customer focused servers its a no go [01:02] main one is domxml [01:03] we still use php4 at work === lupine_85 likes php5 [01:03] azeem, as in not in Sid yet? [01:03] OOP ++ [01:03] PHP OOP -- [01:03] Fujitsu: yes [01:03] hahaha [01:03] azeem, -0ubuntu1. [01:03] azeem, i would say -1ubuntu1 if its in incomming etc , not sure [01:04] I wonder what the changelog should be [01:04] imbrandon, but that's newer that -1. [01:04] azeem, see my last upload of soundconverter... [01:04] well, I suppose my "OOP" app right now uses C-style functions to display the actual page text ;) [01:04] azeem, but if its based of that package [01:04] but it's OK [01:04] Like, I did a preemptive sync of soundconverter, and just said `Preemptive sync from Debian Sid, this is actually 0.9.1-1' [01:05] Fujitsu: how will you manage the changelog on the next sync? [01:06] exactly heh [01:06] thus i say if its based on the same package -1 that WILL be in sid then it should be -1ubuntu1 IMHO === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:06] wb LaserJock [01:06] azeem, by syncing the next version. [01:06] phew [01:07] well that was interesting [01:07] well, I maintain it in Debian as well, so I don't care about the "must be lower than next Debian release" rule a lot in this case [01:07] as soon as I fixed the other computer my main computer lost it's network [01:07] azeem, like, if it comes to Edgy+1 and Sid is still on 0.9.1-1, then I can sync 0.9.1-1. [01:07] had to reboot [01:07] azeem, I maintain soundconverter in Debian as well. [01:08] Fujitsu: heh, ok, so you'll drop the 0ubuntu1 entry? [01:08] Fujitsu, yea but that makes a mess of bug reports [01:08] azeem, in the sync it will naturally be dropped. [01:08] I keep Ubuntu changelog entries in my Debian packages, if possible [01:08] ok, I'll think about something, not a big deal [01:09] what package are you talking about? [01:09] ah wb LaserJock ;p [01:09] gnome-chemistry-utils [01:09] i must head off to work now, enjoy your network settings.. [01:10] Lathiat: yes, stupid resolvconf [01:10] ah ti was that? [01:10] oh yes [01:10] azeem, ah, great! I was hoping we'd get a new one of those :D [01:10] heh resolvconf always drives me nuts :) [01:10] between that and gnome-system-tools not being able to handle static IPs === LaserJock has never used DHCP [01:12] I guess I'm in the minority [01:13] me neither :) [01:13] I CBA integrating it with my DNS server [01:14] hmm, can a Desktop CD be used to dist-upgrade? [01:14] My integration works nicely... [01:14] LaserJock, no. [01:14] that's what I thought [01:14] that kinda stinks [01:15] I've never set a server either so ... [01:15] *set up [01:16] my dsl router can do DHCP I guess, but I don't want it to because of some port fowarding [01:16] I'm just lazy, and don't see the point of it for 4 PCs [01:16] radvd is also a bit of a joke [01:17] I do DHCP with a static entries for port forwarding. [01:17] IPv6 FTW! [01:17] no doubt I'd feel differently if I were dealing with 10+ PCs though :) [01:17] Fujitsu: right, but I only have 2 computers so once I have a static entry for one ... [01:17] Ah, 2 computers. [01:17] That's different. [01:17] here at school though we have 100+ computers [01:17] static [01:18] but I guess we have wireless on top of that that is DHCP [01:18] but I rarely use it [01:18] but I like having it static [01:18] because I can log in to my computer from home [01:19] easily [01:19] anywho, my network crisis is solved thanks to Lathiat === LaserJock kicks resolvconf around a few times === doko__ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-064-199.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xopher [n=xopher@a84-230-121-147.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu kicks Hoary's woefully old Tor around a few times. === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crimsun [n=crimsun@dargo.trilug.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=imbrando@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:36] Heya gang [01:39] heya bddebian [01:39] Hi imbrandon [01:39] hi [01:39] btw, did you get that package yet? [01:39] Hello lupine_85 [01:40] erm, "package" comment was to imbrandon :) [01:40] I figured that :-) [01:41] lupine_85, what package ? ohhh no [01:41] not yet [01:41] it's on it's way, never fear :) === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw7-fe10f900-10.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:42] hehe yea, honestly i had forgen about it, would have been a nice suprise when it comes ;) [01:42] sorry for spoiling it ;) === xopher [n=xopher@a84-230-121-147.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:42] heheh no worries ;) [01:43] gmbl [01:46] anyone have time to review a crash-fix I made a debdiff for? bug 62309 [01:46] Malone bug 62309 in abuse-sdl "abuse segfaults on exit" [Low,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62309 [01:48] Hm.. I should have probably applied the security fix to the Breezy package before pbuilding it >_> === redguy_ [n=mati@acq184.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:56] Which list should I send the tor security fix debdiffs to? security-review? [01:57] yes [01:58] keescook: looks sane to me [01:59] crimsun: cool. Can you upload it? (I don't have perms to upload.) [01:59] sure (though I suspect you'll have privs tomorrow :-) [01:59] oooh...freshmeat :) === ajmitch wonders if keescook will get coredev in a day [01:59] I would presume so :-) [01:59] ajmitch: didnt you? :) [02:00] bah === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@unaffiliated/lotusleaf] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:00] took me months of bribing the right people [02:00] I'm not sure I want coredev that quick! ;) === ajmitch will be back later [02:03] keescook: uploaded, queue's in manual accept so it may be a bit before you get the ACCEPT [02:04] cool, thanks. [02:04] np === lotusleaf raises sword "I have the power!" === Fujitsu nervously posts to security-review. === lophyte [n=dsulliva@65.94.199.53] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gazer [n=gazer@mail.aktiv-assekuranz.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:14] So, what should be be focusing on coming up on freeze? [02:14] me me me me me :D [02:17] bddebian: newer upstream versions that fix considerable bugs, imo [02:17] I think I've pretty much uploaded my last new upstream version of whatever package [02:18] I've only done the two, and they were both to eliminate gstreamer0.8. [02:19] I think Fujitsu and geser have the syncs/merges under wraps, and I anticipate Fujitsu getting universe privs tomorrow, so that shouldn't be a stopper [02:19] Unfortunately, I need to find somebody to sign my key in the very near future. [02:20] Fujitsu: Come to Philadelpia, I'll sign it ;-P [02:20] :P [02:20] Err Philadelphia eve [02:20] n [02:22] Oh so Fujitsu and geser did azureus? Sweet === Fujitsu hits bddebian. [02:22] I am NOT going near that abomination. [02:22] I didn't touch azureus, didn't even look at it [02:22] That's it, no vote for you ;-P [02:22] geser, that's a good policy. [02:22] azureus is solely for deities [02:22] crimsun: Ah great, tell me how it goes then :-) [02:23] geser, don't look at it, you'll immediately begin to burn. [02:23] is this #ubuntouch ? [02:23] aha [02:23] hah [02:23] nice [02:23] ;) [02:24] I looked once on the merge report for it and stopped after a few lines in the concflicts section [02:25] geser, good, good. I'm suprised you're still alive, though. === amachu [n=amachu@59.144.14.198] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fbond [n=fab@pool-72-92-138-194.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:31] Fujitsu: the standard practice for security debdiffs is to mention the CVE if available. Here it's CVE-2006-4508. [02:32] OK, oops... I'll add them and reupload the debdiffs... [02:32] I can't delete attachments, can I.. === fbond [n=fab@pool-72-92-138-194.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:33] I don't think so, but it's not that big a deal [02:33] (pitti and keescook will likely only consider the most recent debdiff) [02:37] Just mention it under References? [02:37] yep [02:39] heh is keescook my new kernel-security master? :) [02:39] maaaybe.... [02:39] :) [02:39] :) [02:39] I'll wait until pitti says I'm a master of anything. :P [02:40] zul, is there a meta package ( or will there be ) for the latest xen domU kernel [02:40] s/U// [02:41] argh!! working on it.. [02:41] now worries, just wondering bro ;) [02:41] s/now/no [02:41] ;) [02:41] hmm, benh posted to ubuntu-users. I think he meant ubuntu-devel or kernel-team === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch returns.. [02:56] Hi ajmitch. [02:57] imbrandon: don't hassle the xen master at work :) [02:57] ajmitch, hehe wasent trying to ;) [02:57] I don't think I've hassled him about xen yet today [02:57] good dont [02:57] hehe [02:57] would I do that? === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@221.221.160.182] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:58] umm...yes.. [02:58] it's more of a gentle encouragement [02:58] yea ;) [02:58] is it done yet is it done yet...how about now :) [02:58] ugh , all the lastfm feeds image things suck [02:59] zul, is it ......... umm never mind i value my life ( and fingers ) [02:59] zul: I just wanted to help out :) [02:59] hehe.. [03:00] hrm one of my sata drives is makin funny noises, i hope it dont decide to die soonish [03:00] that cant be good [03:00] better check my backups are good , just in case [03:01] ugh that would suck , i dont have the cash for a new hdd right now either ;( [03:01] you could always have a bake sale [03:02] lol [03:02] ;) [03:02] or a lemonaide stand [03:02] hahah [03:02] imbrandon: yeah, I always worry at the slightest noise from my box :) [03:03] this one just started acting funny the last hour or so [03:03] don't forget to use some frosting on the cookies to add the url to shipit [03:03] what sort of funny? [03:03] sounds like its randomly seeking === lupine_85 [n=lupine@nick.lupine.me.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:03] not like a normal read/write [03:04] but nothing is going on but irc [03:04] hm [03:04] ( check ps ax ) [03:04] remapping bad sectors? [03:04] checked* [03:04] vmstat [03:04] crimsun: that's more likely [03:04] imbrandon: doesn't hald always spin the hdd like a drunken dj? [03:04] brandon@horatio:~$ vmstat [03:04] procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- -system-- ----cpu---- [03:04] r b swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us sy id wa [03:04] 0 0 18240 29292 125296 506424 0 0 8 40 53 58 4 1 95 0 === ajmitch should get another drive & make everything RAID5 [03:04] no idea how to read that output [03:04] imbrandon: sorry, vmstat 1 [03:05] it prints out a line every second [03:05] watch the bi & bo columns [03:05] can a hdd ever be put to sleep like on winders or does it always spin with activity [03:05] bo keeps going from 0 to ~100 [03:05] bi is always 0 [03:06] http://pastebin.ca/182458 [03:07] so basically very little activity [03:08] well my "important" stuff is all on a raided server , but still , i dont wanna loose this drive if i can help it [03:08] heh [03:08] ajmitch, yea hardly any, just my irc client and a web browser [03:08] nothing running in the background === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:09] hrm , i guess i'll just have to watch it close the next days and make sure i have good backups [03:10] if your drive is SMART-aware, then you can check its output [03:10] (smartmontools) === ajmitch has had 1 drive die already this year [03:11] umm afaik it is , the drive is a semi new ( last 6months ) 160gb sata [03:11] far too early for a drive like that to die [03:12] smartctl -d ata -a dev/sda [03:13] oh wow tons of output [03:13] lemme pastbin [03:13] arg its doing it again, strange [03:14] http://pastebin.ca/182464 === minghua [n=minghua@danube.mems.rice.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:15] oh joy, a western digital [03:15] the FAILING_NOW is a big sign :) [03:15] in soviet russia, western digitals you [03:16] shit [03:16] the drive I had die was a 160GB WB (non-SATA) [03:16] s/WB/WD/ [03:16] I got everything off it with dd a few days before it died [03:16] when it died, it made a nice noise :) [03:17] Failing early, I love it. === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:18] it really should have a big sad face [03:18] man that just sucks , heh yea i just checked the backups , their good , but still === imbrandon wonders if he still has the reciept for it === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:23] Hi Hobbsee. [03:23] Heya Hobbsee [03:23] ello Hobbsee [03:24] bah, silly client === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@68.84.69.12] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:24] keescook: sorry, my client wasn't identified, so the last few responses didn't go through. Sec. [03:24] hey Fujitsu [03:24] hey bddebian [03:24] hey imbrandon [03:24] Could someone take a look at my simple package upgrade? [03:24] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3214 === awbassett [n=andrew@206.135.97.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=duck@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:51] :/ [03:51] ? [03:52] sorry [03:52] just frustrated [03:52] I don't know what my problem is [03:53] :( [03:53] I must be cracking under the stress [03:53] ;-) [03:53] last night it was forums [03:53] uh oh [03:53] So it was :P [03:53] tonight it's the magical ML where nothing is on topic ;-) [03:53] forums are so much fun though :) [03:53] LaserJock: just let it drift by... [03:54] I know I know === ajmitch restrains himself from commenting on the forums again [03:54] Which ML in particular? [03:54] don't worry [03:54] -users, i expect [03:54] hehe no [03:54] -devel? [03:54] mhm [03:54] sounder? [03:54] The 686 kernel one? [03:55] does anyone know what ubuntu uses to handle svg+xml mime types? [03:55] mhm [03:55] LaserJock, I thought that was a bit odd. It's very very close to on topic, if not on topic. [03:55] I've been on -devel for over a year now [03:55] LaserJock: delete thread [03:55] or mark as read [03:55] or ignore [03:56] whatever avoids you having to look at it [03:56] and I've just come to the realization that it is more "developer disscusion" rather then "development discussion" [03:56] which makes me a little sad [03:56] but I don't make the rules, thankfully ;-) [03:57] So let's change the description, and start another flamewar about changing the description without consulting the user. === Fujitsu rolls eyes. [03:57] lol [03:57] hehe [03:57] break the dishes crack the plates [03:57] that's what Bilbo Baggins Hates === Hobbsee wants a "kill topic" button, which makes it not allowed to be discussed again [03:58] electrical shocks would be good [03:58] I'd like to have a good, healthy, constructive discussion [03:59] LaserJock, that'd be nice... But not going to happen. [03:59] but it seems I'm only dreaming ;-) [03:59] i want to ask a question in #*-devel but i am afraid i whould meet ridicule once again [03:59] was going to* [03:59] joejaxx: ask it here then [03:59] LaserJock: i did :) [03:59] oh, good [03:59] Yeah, we're unlikely to eat you. [03:59] much [04:00] i need to find out what handles svg+xml mime types === Fujitsu hastily pushes the partial disembodied limbs out the door. === Hobbsee spears Fujitsu with her long pointy stick of doom, roasts him over the fire, and eats him. [04:00] because right now icons are not working on fluxbuntu [04:00] Hobbsee: lol [04:00] Thanks, Hobbsee. === joejaxx makes a note to watch out for the Stick of Doom [04:00] But I'll hopefully have some MOTU powers in less than 24 hours too! [04:00] Fujitsu: motu powers? [04:00] joejaxx, that's one thing you need to watch out for in here. [04:00] :P [04:00] Fujitsu: haha [04:01] joejaxx: she-ra +5 sponge of supple bathing [04:01] lotusleaf: lol [04:01] she-ra rocks [04:01] that or jem ;) [04:02] LaserJock: i accidentally broke the image handler in Fluxbuntu [04:02] when removing packages [04:02] because it worked in Rev1 but not Rev2 [04:03] which is why i need tofind out what handles the svg+xml mime type in Ubuntu :) === zul is watching a movie === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:08] LaserJock is indeed a conversation invoker in this channel :-) === joejaxx goes back to idling === ajmitch could go back to fighting FDS, but it's depressing :) [04:09] hi Burgundavia [04:09] hey ajmitch === imbrandon go's back to his self python class [04:10] heya Burgundavia [04:10] minghua: sortty :( [04:10] hey imbrandon [04:10]