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erUSUL!synaptic > Sourcemage12:01
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Sourcemagesynaptic didn't know show any SDL packages when i searched = /12:01
kitcheSourcemage: anyways you have to know what your really looking for since SDL is split up in bunch of devel packages12:01
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ladydoorSourcemage: or you can do sudo aptitude and press / to search and n to search againf for the same thing12:01
ladydoormarshall: seriously, though...if you divert ubuntu's version instead of uninstalling it, you can install from source. and that has the benefit of being able to install *any* of the gaim plugins you want...12:02
erUSUL!repos > Sourcemage12:02
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marshallladydoor: ive had all kinds of trouble installing things from source before though12:02
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marshallkopete 0.12 beta 3 took like 4 hours to make12:03
ladydoormarshall: well...that's just stupid. gaim takes a while to compile (which rhymes), but it doesn't take 4 hours12:03
pqs:help12:03
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mc44Seveas, without DRI Xv wont work, and the 'ati' driver doesnt work. Gah!12:03
ladydoormarshall: *meaning kopete's stupid, not you12:03
marshallladydoor:  lol ok12:04
el_tacohow do I refresh my dhcp?12:04
pqs(sorry I made a mistake, usin irssi for the first time)12:04
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ladydoormarshall: because i'm *really* not sure what to do about all those dependencies that don't want to co-operate12:04
el_tacoi've trid using ifconfig and bring down the device and then bring it back up again12:04
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marshallladydoor:  lol its ok i know12:05
ladydoorpqs: if you do /set, it should spit out a list of things you can set. i think there's an option to change it to a colon...12:05
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pqsthanks ladydoor12:05
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ladydoorpqs: np.12:05
pqsit's a long time I don't IRC ;)12:06
el_taconevermind figured12:06
el_tacoit out12:06
Samuli^rr.12:06
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wetduck_!Typo12:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Typo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:07
wetduck_!Font12:07
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto12:07
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rico!ndiswrapper12:07
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:07
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TLEHe everybody.I was wondering, in Breezy you could choose a list of screensaver which it should randomly choose from. Now the only option I have is one.. of randomly from all of them. Where did taht feature go, and can I get it back by installing some package ?12:08
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ricois it true that with kernel 2.6.17 it will be possible to use broadcom wifi using bcm43xx?12:08
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agohi12:09
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lwsare the madwifi drivers in dapper linux-restricted-modules package, are those madwifi-ng or madwifi-old?12:09
ladydoorrico: 'tis.12:09
orbishcan anyone help me get compiz up and running?12:09
rico'tis? (sorry eng is not my first language)12:09
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ladydoorrico: it's an archaic contraction of "it is"12:10
ladydoorrico: archaic=not used anymore (for a long time)12:10
ricook, thanks :-)12:10
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agodoes anybody know how to resize a window using pyxfce? Doesn't look like NetkWindow has any viable method.12:10
TLEladydoor: on dansish it means pee LOL12:10
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ladydoorTLE: not with an apostrophe i bet12:10
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TLEladydoor: nope12:11
ricoi was wondering if it is _more_ stupid to try compile the new kernel (i have never done that before) or try to understand why everytime i get to configure my wifi using ndiswrapper i cannot connect after reboot... any suggestion? :-)12:11
ricoi have been browsing tutorials and howto for days and days12:12
chealerhi. is there an Ubuntu basic logo (no text) available from an official source in PNG format?12:12
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ricoeventually my wifi works...but when i reboot it doesn't work anymore12:12
ricoand i cannot figure out what i am missing12:12
erUSULchealer: /usr/share/example-content/12:12
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rico(i actually fear it is network manager)12:12
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chealererUSUL: hum, thank you. but I forgot to mention I'm looking for something available online.12:13
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aaztechclnrico: you probally just need to setup your /etc/network/interfaces file12:15
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ricoaaztech: well... to use network manager you need to comment out all the lines but "lo"12:16
el_tacois build-essentials all I need to start compiling stuff?12:16
ucordesheyz. how can i set my power state?12:16
ricobut that doesn't depend on ndiswrapper or bcm43xx12:16
Xenguyel_taco: yep12:17
ucordeslike in windows portable and desktop profiles set the cpu core12:17
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Xenguyel_taco: build-essential IIRC12:17
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chealerel_taco: it's more like what's essential to start compiling stuff12:17
el_tacoXenguy, that's what I meant.12:17
chealerso,  is there an Ubuntu basic logo (no text) available from an online official source in PNG format?12:17
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Xenguyel_taco: yes, but it's not what you typed -- yer welcome ;-)12:18
ucordes!acpi12:18
ubotuacpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)12:18
ucordes!powerstate12:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about powerstate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:18
ucordes!cpucore12:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cpucore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:18
aaztechclnrico: when you reboot, does iwconfig show your interface?12:18
ucordesargh12:18
chealerucordes: please /msg the bot12:18
ricoyup12:18
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ricoaaz: yes12:19
aaztechclnrico: should show up was wlan0 if you're using ndiswrapper12:19
ucordesrico: what's your problem12:19
ricoeth112:19
ricoiwconfig works12:19
aaztechclnrico: so, try this after you reboot, just do a 'sudo dhclient eth1'12:19
ricoiwlist works12:19
ucordeswhat does not work?12:19
Mike_kayakerhuh the latest release NOT free??????????????????(*_*)12:19
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Xenguyucordes: there is no problem - it's the channel rules, it's polite, and it's ettiquette12:19
ricoifup eth1 doesn't work, because there is not eth1 defined in /etc/network/interfaces12:19
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ricobecause i need to comment that in order to user NetworkManager12:20
ucordesxenguy! im not talking to you12:20
Powerbook`does anyone know how to get airport extreme wireless to work with ubuntu12:20
ucordes!12:20
Xenguyucordes: yes you are :p12:20
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Mike_kayakerUbuntu CDs, may order them at a cost of 1.50 per CD12:20
ucordesdon't provoke people if you don't want channel rules to be broken eh?12:20
nannohas anyone tried openwengo nightly builds? which ones are NOT corrupt?12:20
ZolaceQuestion: How can i play WMA files on ubuntu?12:20
aaztechclnrico: I don't know if commenting out is the right thing to do12:20
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Xenguyucordes: it's best not to take anything too personally (it's probably not meant that way in the first place)12:21
ricoif i do dhclient it tries, but it doesn't find anything12:21
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ZolaceHow can i play WMA files on ubuntu?12:21
aaztechclnrico: what type of AP are you connecting to, does it use WAP or WPA?  or is it an open access point?12:21
kitche!w32codecs > Zolace12:22
ircleuserHello - My ubuntu installation just died - I get the message - "can't access tty: job control turned off"12:22
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ricoaaz: some howto say it's the best way to use NetworkManager... i have no encryption12:22
ircleuserCan anyone please help12:22
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saikosorry, i just downloaded the latest kernel from kernel.org, extracted it (one file) in /usr/src/ and don't know what to do next .. manual say to cd to linux dir, where is that in the first place ? also, make / make config isn't recognised as bash commands, what am i doing wrong ?12:22
ricomaybe i should try removing networkmanager to find out if that is the real problem12:22
aaztechclnrico: ok, then find out your SSID, and type 'iwconfig eth1 essid YOURSSID'12:22
ricodone...12:22
chealerZolace: open them with a media player, like Amarok12:22
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aaztechclnrico: then do the dhclient thing12:22
ricoit sees it, but i cannot use it12:23
Mike_kayakerircleuser: Install debian 4.012:23
aaztechclnrico: do an 'lsmod |grep bcm'12:23
Xenguyircleuser: never heard of such an error condition; if it were me, I might repeat the install (?)12:23
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aaztechclnrico: if your system is trying to use the broadcom driver, it might conflict with ndiswrapper12:23
ricono, i blacklisted it!12:24
Zolacechealer, i dont have that i dont think12:24
ircleuserHi - Ubuntu was working fine, and then I shut it down and it wont completely shut down. following that, I pulled the plug and restarted - and now the the system doesnt go to login mode. Instead after 'checking filesystem', I get - can't access tty: job control turned off and it loads ash/busybox12:24
ircleuserWill installing debian 4 retain my old ubuntu settings ?12:25
Xenguyircleuser: I think Mike_kayaker was either joking, or suggesting a completely separate install12:25
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chealerZolace: use another media player like vlc then, or get one12:25
Mike_kayakerircleuser: the latter12:25
aaztechclnrico: what does dhclient say?12:26
kitcheircleuser: you should never pull a plug on a powered up machine, you should press the power button instead since you might have burned out something in the computer just so you know :)12:26
ircleuserI dont even have debian cds12:26
Mike_kayakerircleuser: net install12:26
chealerircleuser: FWIW, Debian 4 is not yet released12:26
Mike_kayakeretch is frozen12:26
ircleuseroh well...should I reintall ubuntu ?12:26
Mike_kayakerrelease Dec12:26
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Xenguyircleuser: I'd try a repeat/re-install first12:27
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ricoDHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 1212:27
ricoover and over12:27
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ricowith different interval values12:27
ircleuserThere is not 'fix' mode in Ubuntu12:27
ircleuser?12:28
Sourcemageis it possible to just install every single SDL package?12:28
Xenguyircleuser: It's been awhile; 'rescue' might be worth a keyword try12:28
Ash-FoxSourcemage, it is possible.12:28
ircleuserbusy box does not have rescue12:29
aaztechclnrico: you're sure you're not using the BCM drivers?12:29
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Sourcemageash-fox: In order to play this game I need a bunch of sdl packages but i can't figure out which ones i don't have12:29
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Sourcemageit's a small list and i've gone through each and gotten everything12:29
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ircleuserSourcemage - Any other possible suggestions other than rescue12:30
kitcheSourcemage: if the checkbox next to them is green it means that they are installed12:30
Ash-FoxSourcemage, there are far more you can get off SDL's homepage that you can compile etc. although I'd reccommend you lookup the game on google instead.12:30
ircleuseror perhaps running rescue off the liveCD12:30
boboboguanyone have any info on the oringal muvo mp3 players?12:30
ricoaaz: pretty sure... lsmod | grep bcm is empty12:30
ircleuserDoes anyone have some other idea ?12:30
mumblesargh12:31
mumblesdamm randem mumbles ....12:31
bobobogui want to pllug it in to my pc without mounting its flash drive and still using it to play stuff12:31
anonymousequick question: Is it possible (and reasonable) to run apache temporarily from a live-cd boot up of ubuntu?  Or am I really asking for trouble?12:31
Sourcemageash-fox i've only had Ubuntu f or a day, it's my first LInux distribution so ... i'm a little overwhelmed :(12:31
Sourcemagei downloaded the game client directly from the developers website and have been trying to follow the installation guide12:32
bobobogulike if i plug it in to the pc it only wants to be a flash drive i can't press its play button etc12:32
FlannelSourcemage: what do you need the sdl packages for?12:32
SourcemageFor a game called Daimonin, http://www.daimonin.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpWiki&file=index&pagename=Source%20Client%20Install12:32
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el_tacowhat's the parameter for carctl to list devices present?12:33
ircleusercan't access tty: job control turned off12:33
ircleuseranyone has some other ideas to fix - can't access tty: job control turned off12:33
el_taconevermind. figured it out :)12:33
kitcheircleuser: did you do a reinstall?12:33
ubuntuHelp! I had ubuntu installed on my computer, and then I ran gparted, and installed xp on my disk (not the first partition, but that didn't seem to be a problem in the windows xp installer) when I went to reboot to do the second phase of the xp install, it failed. Any ideas?12:33
ircleuserwill I lose old configuration data and other programs when I reinstall ?12:34
ricoaaztechcln, thanks for your help and suggestions...12:34
Flannelubuntu: XP install failed?  you'll have to ask XP/MS/whatever support people about that.12:34
Zolacethanks kitche12:34
el_tacoUbugtu, iirc windows writes over the mbr12:34
ricoaaztechcln, i think i will try to disable the network manager and see if that is the problem12:34
FlannelSourcemage: unfortunately, yeah, you need to figure out your dependencies by hand.12:34
ircleuserKitche - do you think I'll lose the configuration data if I reinstall ?12:34
DigitalNinjaIs there an easy way to lock down a gnome desktop12:34
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kitcheircleuser: well if you reformat you will12:35
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ircleuserkitche : I dont intend to reformat. I should be still be able to reinstall - right ?12:36
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kitcheircleuser: yes at least you should be able to not sure if it will cause breakages but it shouldn't12:36
mabusHelp! I tried to install xp after I had successfully installed ubuntu, and then ran gparted to make my partitons afterwards. XP is not installed on the first partition. Any ideas? It gave a disk error after rebooting into the second phase of xp installation.12:37
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kitchemabus: well the disk error would really help but anyways you would have lost linux since windows whipes out a MBR12:38
SourcemageFlannel: I reran sh ./configure   after I installed a few of those packages and i think 'make' worked this time but i'm not sure12:38
jeeves_Mossall:  does any one know the command to purge a bad install of apache?  I've tried everything I can think of to get it to work, and it's annoying me.12:38
kitchemabus: anyways that's mroe fo a ##windows question12:38
aaztechclnRico-: no problem, once you get it working via command prompt, you'll be good 2 go12:39
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Ploujhi12:39
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canepazzoWhere may I take the sources of 2.6.15-27 belonging to ubuntu?12:39
Powerbook`how would I update the kernal from 2.6.15-23-powerpc to the newest?12:39
jeeves_MossFlannel:  you still in here?12:39
Powerbook`note: I cannot download from that computer, but I can download on a different computer and put it on there, so no like apt-get :p12:40
mabuskitche: MBR can be overwritten again, though? And the disk error was simply "disk error"12:40
canepazzoDo I need to download the kernel from kernel.org for grabbing the sources?12:40
Ploujwhat username/password should I enter after I click "start printer" in the cups web interface at locahost:631/printers/printer-name ?12:40
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gekko`is this a bug http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24816 ? i'm getting it when i'm updating a package12:41
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chealercanepazzo: no12:41
canepazzochealer, what should I do?12:41
canepazzoI have the image, the restricted modules12:42
canepazzowhat else do I need to build other modules inside the kernel?12:42
chealercanepazzo: there should be an Ubuntu binary package containing the Linux source12:42
Flanneljeeves_Moss: what's up?12:42
chealercanepazzo: "build modules inside the kernel"?12:42
Powerbook`how do i update the kernel?12:42
chanwoma1trying to install vmware tools, got error message 'couldn't find package linux-headers-uname -r', help!!12:43
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chealercanepazzo: if you just mean building LKMs, you should only need Linux headers12:43
Flannelchanwoma1: sounds like something wasn't quoted correctly in a script12:43
jeeves_MossFlannel:  dumbest questoin I've asked so far tonight.  Is the command to purge a bad install apt-get --purge apache2?12:43
mabusHelp! I tried to install xp after I had successfully installed ubuntu, and then ran gparted to make my partitons afterwards. XP is not installed on the first partition. Any ideas? It gave a disk error after rebooting into the second phase of xp installation. So my idea is, that I need to overwrite whatever windows put on the MBR, and put a grub on that will correctly boot xp/ubuntu... can somebody point me to a howto 12:43
mabus!grub12:43
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:43
canepazzochealer, I need to compile the svn version of madwifi12:44
canepazzochealer, but it gives me error on compile12:44
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lwsis edgy reasonably good to use as is?12:44
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lwsif I do a distupgrade?12:44
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Powerbook`!kernel12:44
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild12:44
Powerbook`how do i update kernel...12:44
canepazzo/usr/src/madwifi-0.9.2/ath/uudecode.c:26:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory12:44
canepazzo/usr/src/madwifi-0.9.2/ath/uudecode.c:27:19: error: errno.h: No such file or directory12:44
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canepazzothis for example12:45
canepazzoI have the same with the svn12:45
canepazzo:|12:45
Flanneljeeves_Moss: apt-get --purge remove apache212:45
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Flannellws: #ubuntu+1 can give you more info on the current stability of edgy12:45
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canepazzo:|12:45
lwskewl thanks12:46
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Flannelcanepazzo: have you installed build-essential yet?12:46
lwsI'm mainly curious because I don't want to spend time futzing with the madwifi-ng stuff and am hoping edgy just fixes this12:46
jeeves_MossFlannel:  thanks again.  I can't figure out WTF is going on with Apache.  it won't behave, so I'm going to purge it.12:46
chanwoma1what is the right script, I used   apt-get install linux-headers-'uname -r'   be kind, I am 110 and a newbie.12:46
canepazzoFlannel, that was what I missed :|12:46
Flannelchanwoma1: I believe those should be back ticks, ` instead of '12:47
chealerchanwoma1: it's "`uname -r`", not "'uname -r'"12:47
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jeeves_MossFlannel:  too bad you wern't here, I'd invite you for a beer.  LOL.  Speaking of that....  I'm sitting in a pub right now.12:47
chanwoma1chealer, dumb question, which one is the back tick??12:48
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chealerchanwoma1: right of ";"12:49
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Flannelchanwoma1, chealer, no.  you want the one under ~, top left of most keyboards12:50
Powerbook`to use a wireless network, I open "networks"?12:50
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chanwoma1Thanks Chealer, will try that.12:50
jeeves_MossFlannel:  what perl moduals should I install?  every one of my installs (regaurdless of what I'm installing) allways complain about "perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:"12:50
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chealerdoh12:50
juanjoi am trying to install ubuntu in a macbook, but i get again and again the "no syncing: io-apic + timer doesn't work' kernel panic ... isn't possible to install ubuntu?12:50
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Ploujdarned "/usr/lib/cups/backend/http failed" (ipp can also be in place of "http")!12:51
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RawSewageAnyone have a way to automatically join rar, unrar, par repair, etc for Usenet12:52
Ploujjuanjo: I'd be surprised if there is no HOWTO for installing ubuntu on your macbook12:52
Ploujjuanjo: did you google?12:52
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mabusHelp please! I lost my grub after installing windows after having had ubuntu already installed. I rescued grub fine, but now how to I get windows to boot up to finish installing?12:53
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juanjoPlouj, of course, but i haven't found a solution for that problem.12:53
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brian98!mac12:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:53
brian98:)12:53
Flannelmabus: this is not a windows support channel, we have no idea.12:53
Flannelmabus: you might try ##windows12:53
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Ploujmasterbender: you gotta edit /boot/grub/grub.conf or menu.lst to add an option to boot to windows12:53
Ploujoops12:54
Jay_LevittAnyone here good with SASL?12:54
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Ploujmabus: you gotta edit /boot/grub/grub.conf or menu.lst to add an option to boot to windows12:54
Ploujmasterbender: that wasn't for you, sorry12:54
masterbender:)12:54
jeeves_MossFlannel:  any ideas on that perl eror?12:54
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Ploujmabus: google for grub windows menu12:54
masterbenderthe good old tab trap12:54
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stuh84mabus: sounds like a problem i had12:54
FlannelPlouj: no, grub should already have a windows option, it autodetects, he just hasn't finished installing windows yet.12:55
stuh84best way i found was to take the setup disk for windows (2K it was for me)12:55
ArrenLexmabus: you can modify commands in grub as you boot up, or in /grub/menu.lst12:55
ArrenLexmabus: change the command\add the following line to /grub/menu.lst :12:55
Flanneljeeves_Moss: nope, sorry.12:55
stuh84go into the recovery console option12:55
stuh84type in fixmbr12:55
ArrenLexmabus:12:55
mabusFlannel: well it's probably an issue with grub booting things properly, it's a boot issue, not really either os'es problem12:55
jeeves_MossFlannel:  ok, thanks12:55
stuh84then do the finish installing12:55
ArrenLextitle           Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition12:55
ArrenLexroot            (hd0,0)12:55
ArrenLexsavedefault12:55
ArrenLexmakeactive12:55
ArrenLexchainloader     +112:55
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FlannelArrenLex: don't paste here.12:55
stuh84THEN once you've done that, do grub12:55
ArrenLex(sorry to paste, too lazy for pastebin)12:55
ircleuserIn Context of -- 'can't access tty: job control turned off' error, I am now trying to reinstall ubuntu. However, I dont remember which parition mounted to home and which one to root.12:55
mabusFlannel: If you didn't want to help you could have just not said anything.12:55
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ircleuserOs there some wa to find out12:55
ArrenLexFlannel: it wasn't that long. You'll live.12:55
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DigitalNinjais there a way to edit the gnome menu12:56
mabusArrenLex: see, you have xp on the first partition, which is supposed to save problems. :/ mine is on hda412:56
FlannelArrenLex: there are 860 people in this channel, if everyone started pasting...  just dont.12:56
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ArrenLexFlannel: as you can see, only about 10 are talking at any given time.12:56
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Flannelmabus: grub can handle windows fine, but you need windows to have finished installing properly first, it's a windows issue.12:56
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ArrenLexFlannel: if everyone on earth turned on their TVs all at once, the electrical grids would overload. Thus, no one should watch TV?12:57
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LAF11540_Am completely new to this - How do I get Ubuntu to recognise and allow me to format an external Western Digital 120 gig H/D?12:57
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ArrenLexLAF: have you tried plugging it in to see if it gets recognised automagically?12:57
LAF11540_Yes12:58
ArrenLexLAF: What happen?12:58
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kitcheLAF11540_: is this a new hd?12:58
LAF11540_It regognises the HD but allows no command to format thus allowing use12:58
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mabusOkay, well how do I get grub to go to the grub menu when booting instead of autobooting ubuntu12:59
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mabusOr pressing f10 or whatever in the .5 seconds it gives you12:59
stuh84mabus: do you mind if i pm you?12:59
ArrenLexLAF: "allows no command to format" meaning "it forbids me from executing such a command" or "I don't know one"?12:59
ircleuserHi - Is there some shell command to find out which logical drive is /usr/ mounted to and which one root is mounted to ?12:59
LuisMendeshow can I make a .img file from a floppy disk?12:59
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PloujFlannel: then he'd have to edit grub manually to finish windows install, no?12:59
mabusstuh84: I'd appreciate it, if it's related to my problem.12:59
LAF11540_it forbids12:59
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Flannelmabus: escape.  but, you can change the grub config to not hide the menu, 'hiddenmenu' option, I believe12:59
ArrenLexircleuser: "mount"12:59
kitcheLAF11540_: do you sudo when you try the command?12:59
FlannelPlouj: He should have finished the windows install before reinstalling grub01:00
ircleuserthanks arrenlex01:00
ArrenLexLAF: why, does it say?01:00
ArrenLex*what does it say?01:00
PloujFlannel: ah01:00
LAF11540_don'y understand 'sudo'01:00
FlannelLAF11540_: are you running ubuntu?01:00
LAF11540_yes01:00
gekko`ircleuser: 'mount' shows you all mounted devices01:00
ArrenLexLAF: "sudo" temporarily gives you the magical power of an administrator. You should try it.01:00
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LAF11540_cannot mount the device01:01
ArrenLexLAF: what command are you trying to execute?01:01
kitcheLAF11540_: well you don't mount something to format it in reality01:01
ice_1963what is the name of program edit gnome's menu??01:01
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Flannelice_1963: alacarte01:02
ice_1963ok01:02
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ice_1963thank you flannel01:03
SilentOutcastcan someone help me setup printer sharing on my ubuntu server01:03
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ircleuserI installed a video card driver in windows in my dual boot system. Would that have any affect on the linux partititon?01:03
samuel__hello01:04
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ircleuserI ask bacuse I started getting this error following that can't access tty: job control turned off01:04
ptyircleuser: no01:04
LuisMendeshow can I make a .img file from a floppy disk?01:04
ircleuserthanks pty01:04
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ztghi all, I'm running LTS 6.0 server and it's been running for over a month great but is now locking up all the time any ideas on where to begin trouble shooting01:04
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SilentOutcastwhat packages would i have to install to share a printer connected to my linux box with my windows box01:05
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LAF11540_I should explain - I go to 'places' - 'computer' it shows all H/D's - the 120 gig is indicated, but when I go to attempt to format, the format command is 'greyed'01:05
Stix09can anyone here help me with an install problem01:05
ArrenLex!ask01:05
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:05
kitcheLAF11540_: you have to use sudo that's why your user doesn't have permissions to format the drive01:05
onicromhey guys, I am wondering if you are able to compile all packages installed on your ubuntu system instead of just installing pkg's  AND if so can you set the gcc compile time options?01:05
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Flannelonicrom: sure, you can download packages as source instead of binary01:06
b^jztg, run memtest86+01:06
JosefKonicrom: you're thinking of Gentoo01:06
Jay_LevittAnyone know how to use saslpasswd2 to create sasldb2 shared secrets?01:06
Stix09alright when i try to install ubuntu (text based install) it does the first few steps fine but when it gets to the part where i am supposed to parition my disk the screen just remains all blue and the partition utility never appears01:06
LAF11540_OK, I'll try it - but as I said - I'm new to this game - thanks for the input.01:06
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onicromJosefk, I know Id like the same functionality.01:07
onicromFlannel, do you know of any docs that might help me with that?01:07
Stix09anyone know how i can get around that and install ubuntu01:07
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Flannelonicrom: instead of 'apt-get install' 'apt-get source', then compile.  You'll probably also want apt-get build-deps01:08
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JosefKonicrom: even if you download the source by hand and build it, you'll still need to checkinstall it so apt is aware it exists01:08
Flannel!tell onicrom about compile01:08
stuh84stix: only a guess but maybe the install disc is knackered?01:08
red|rainHi, can I use aiglx even if I have the fglrx driver installed?01:08
Ploujyo01:08
stuh84stix: was it downloaded or did you get a shipit! cd?01:09
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Stix09im not sure if the disk is clean or not, ill download a fresh copy and try again, but ive also had similar problems with other linux distros... i have a sata harddrive i was thinking that might be causing a problem?01:09
SilentOutcastwhat is the name of the package i have to install to install cups on my lamp server01:09
Ploujis there a way to somehow copy all the Ubuntu configurations that were made to the system to a fresh ubuntu install to make a sort of 'clone' system without actual user's data?01:09
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darkanyelhi ppl01:09
stuh84stix: got very little experience with sata if i'm honest, only one sata drive in the house and its on one of me dads PC01:10
darkanyelcan anyone help me with rhythmbox?01:10
Stix09alright well i guess ill dl another cd and try again01:10
Stix09and be back if it doesnt work01:10
Stix09thanks for the help01:10
JosefKStix09: if you're not using SATA RAID - why not use them as IDE?01:10
stuh84its always the first thing i'd try, good luck mate01:11
darkanyelplz?01:11
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stuh84dark: whats the problem with it?01:11
onicromThanks very much guys01:11
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darkanyeli cant listen mp3 with rhytmbox01:12
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darkanyelbut i can with amarok01:12
JosefK!mp3 > darkanyel01:12
bruenig!mp301:12
DarkMageZ!tell darkanyel about restrictedformats01:12
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:12
Laneynp: Ace Of Base - Always Have, Always Will01:12
darkanyel:S01:12
horizonhas anyone know vdr software?01:12
PloujGAH! I don't understand why Ubuntu can't print to my Gentoo's CUPS server.01:13
DarkMageZdarkanyel, basically, since mp3 format has some legal issues... no support for it is shiped with ubuntu, you can install support for it by following the instructions on the restrictedformats page in the wiki :P01:13
darkanyelbut i dont undestand why can i listen mp3 with amarok and not with rhyhtmbox01:13
stuh84gstreamer issue maybe?01:13
stuh84or maybe i'm clutching at straws01:13
Ploujthe CUPS server does not show any errors in it's logs so I'm pretty sure it's not an access restriction problem01:13
mabusso whats a good program to burn dvds with01:14
Blinkermabus: burn, or copy?01:14
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darkanyeli install the support for mp3 a long time ago01:14
Ploujlet me-repeat my question in full on one line ;)01:14
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stuh84mabus: did you get the PM i sent you btw?01:15
DarkMageZdarkanyel, you installed mp3 support for xine :P rhythmbox uses gstreamer01:15
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darkanyel:?01:15
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darkanyeli dont understad01:16
darkanyel:$01:16
PloujGAH! I don't understand why Ubuntu can't print to my Gentoo's CUPS server. The CUPS server does not show any errors in it's logs so I'm pretty sure it's not an access restriction problem. Ubuntu's CUPS interface shows "/usr/lib/cups/backend/http failed" (ipp can also be in place of "http")01:16
Blinkermabus: going once....01:16
horizonhas anyone know the solution "vdr: please turn off UTF-8 before starting VDR" ???01:16
ztg<b^j> I'll try that when if it locks up again, but it's a production server so I want it down as little as possible, is there anything else, I can't find anything in /var/log/syslog01:16
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mabusstuh84: no i didn't01:17
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ice_1963Blinker, gnomebaker right01:17
stuh84right i'll repost it to you01:17
mabusBlinker: burn.. just a data cd01:17
mabusdvd rather01:17
Blinkerice_1963: eh?01:17
DarkMageZdarkanyel, ok, basically... amarok and rhythmbox are just user interfaces. they rely on a backend to play music, there are 2 general backends under linux. xine and gstreamer. you installed mp3 support for xine hence why mp3's work in amarok01:17
ice_1963or k3b01:17
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Blinkermabus: the functionality for that is built right into nautilus. insert a blank dvd and it'll prompt you01:17
DarkMageZdarkanyel, what you need to do is add mp3 support to gstreamer, all you need to do to get it is install "gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly"01:17
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mabusBlinker: I have thunar, not nautilus01:18
darkanyeluhmmm01:18
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Blinkermabus: youre on xubuntu?01:18
stuh84darkanyel: dya know how to load up synaptic?01:19
mabusBlinker: Yeah. But for generic questions I come to ubuntu because it's much more helpful.01:19
stuh84or a terminal, either will do01:19
horizonhey guys has anyone know the solution "vdr: please turn off UTF-8 before starting VDR" ???01:19
Blinkerstuh84: system > administration > synaptic...01:19
JosefKmabus: if you're on Xubuntu, try out gnomebaker01:19
mabusJosefK: thanks01:20
stuh84blinker: yeah i know myself :P i was trying to help that guy with gstreamer01:20
DarkMageZstuh84, well, looks like that was alittle to complex for anyel :P01:20
Blinkermabus: hear ya.unfrtunately i'm not able to help with that one...my only burning machineruns ubu01:20
kitchehorizon: yes you have to turn off UTF-8 it's probably in the settings for that app01:20
stuh84seems so......ha01:20
Blinkerstuh84: ah, gotcha01:20
horizonyeah but the application doent start01:20
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stuh84no worries though blink01:20
horizoni need to make it through console or someway01:20
Blinker;)01:20
horizoni dont know01:21
kitchehorizo: usually settings are kept in a .conf file01:21
freezey_why can i not write to my external hard drive?01:21
freezey_telling me its a read only file system01:21
horizonkitche > how may i do it?01:21
stuh84i'll let others clarify, but i'll take a stab at it being formatted to ntfs01:22
Blinkerfreezey: you'll have to change permissions or sudo it through terminal01:22
kitchefreezey_: because it is, most likely you are writing as a user and not an admin01:22
JosefKhorizon: are you comfortable in a terminal?01:22
horizonyeah01:22
freezey_kitche: ok sooo even if i sudo the command01:22
freezey_kitche: that should be writing it as an admin tho correct?01:22
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JosefKtry 'export LANG="C"' and then 'vdr'01:22
wantedboy, how redirect X in two $DISPLAY ??01:22
stuh84freezey: thats the deal yes01:22
kitchefreezey_: yes make sure it's mounted as rw also could have mounted as ro01:23
freezey_kitch: /dev/sdb1 on /media/New Volume type ntfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)01:23
stuh84there we go01:23
stuh84its ntfs01:23
lostincIs there any software that will backup a selection of folders to USB Harddrive periodically without user intervention??01:23
JosefKlostinc: rsync and cron01:23
stuh84you either need captive-ntfs, which i'm not sure how stable it is01:23
kitchefreezey_: ah ok you have ntfs-3g installed01:24
JosefKlostinc: you'll need to google for documentation though01:24
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hesperushi guys01:24
lostincOkay01:24
Blinkerthere is no reliable way to write to ntfs in linux01:24
lupine_85course there isd01:24
horizonjosef> ok done but now "vdr: can't access video directory /video"01:24
lupine_85use Windows XP in a VMWare session01:24
freezey_i just need to move some drivers over thats all01:24
stuh84yeah i was under that impression too blinker01:24
hesperusdoes linux-restricted-modules-686 include nvidia.ko module?01:24
kitchefreezey_: since you can't write to an ntfs under linux by default01:24
freezey_ok01:24
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freezey_so what should i do01:24
lupine_85hesperus: yes01:24
kitche!ntfs > freezey_01:24
JosefKhorizon: try hacking it's config files to use /tmp, or another suitably large partition on your system01:24
stuh84i'd say format it to fat32 meself if you can01:24
hesperuslupine_85: well, i can't find it anywhere01:25
JosefKhorizon: if that fails, make a '/video' directory and give yourself +rwx on it01:25
hesperusmaybe the 386 is more complete?01:25
horizonit s located in fact in home directory01:25
JosefK/video != ~/video01:25
lupine_85try this: dpkg -L linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-68601:25
horizonmaybe it is better ./vdr at directory01:25
lupine_85or: dpkg -L linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-686 |grep ko (if you're lazy)01:25
hesperuslupine_85: thx, let's grep it =)01:26
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stuh84just to say, can anyone pull me up on anytime i say something wrong, i'm not an ubuntu expert by a long shot, just spent a fair bit of time tinkering with it01:27
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darkanyelhi01:27
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darkanyelthanks01:27
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hesperuslupine_85: there is no nvidia.ko, only nv-kernel.o which is approximately ~5MB01:27
stuh84aha darkanyel returns01:27
darkanyeli can now listen mp301:27
darkanyelbut i have a question01:28
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darkanyelhow can i make amarok my default musik player?01:28
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SourcemageWhen I delete things from /Desktop are they removed permanetly? or do they go to some non-visible trash bag!01:29
lupine_85hmm, strange. maybe it's in nvidia-glx?01:29
Sourcemage?*01:29
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BlinkerSourcemage: bottom right of the screen should show your trash bin01:29
jeeves_Mossall:  does any one know what this error means and how to fix it?  "perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale"01:29
jiShdarkanyel: right click an mp3 in konqueror and go top "open with" menu and then "other" and in the box make amarok default01:29
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Sourcemageahhhhhhhhh it's iconified now, : p01:30
Blinker;)01:30
Sourcemagethanks Blinker lol, didn't even notice01:30
hesperuslupine_85: nope01:30
darkanyeli already do that01:30
Blinkerthats ok...things are easy to overlook sometimes...even i'm guilty of it on occasion01:30
darkanyelwhen i do 2 click in an icon of mp3 it open amarok01:30
darkanyeli mean, in my keyboard i have an extra button with the simblo of music, and when i press that button open rhyhtmbox01:31
lupine_85not really sure then01:31
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hesperuslupine_85: have a look if you don't mind -> http://pastebin.ca/18237101:31
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Jack_SparrowBlinker: Sometimes it just easier to take a little flak for asking an obvious question01:31
mabusJosefK: Um, I don't see how to burn a dvd with gnomebaker01:31
darkanyeli wanna amarok and not rhyhtmbox in that button01:31
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hesperusthat nv-kernel.o seems to be a "raw" object to-be-compiled, i want the precompiled nvidia.ko actually01:31
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TracerBulletdoes an xv package exist for ubuntu ?01:31
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lenHi, can Any1 help me enable my Direct Rendering???01:32
Blinkerthe only stupid question is one not asked01:32
juanjoanyone using ubuntu on a macbook?01:32
cafuegohesperus: That'01:32
cafuegos in linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)01:32
funkygreendogsyo can anyone help me im trying to add ubuntu to lilo so i can dual boot with mandrake and winxp01:32
hesperuscafuego: this package is installed...01:32
JosefKmabus: I haven't got it right in front of me, but I think you just drag files into the bottom list, then click 'burn'01:32
funkygreendogswhat path should i type for the kernel01:33
hesperuscan someone confirm that nvidia.ko exists in i386 but not in i686 ?01:33
ice_1963who know's when flashplayer 9 be ready for linux ?01:33
hesperusice_1963: 2007+01:33
lenany1?01:33
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Sourcemagelen you'll have to be more specific, I find that the generalized questions are left unanswered : P01:33
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horizonjosef> where will I make video directory?01:34
cafuegohesperus: /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/volatile/nvidia.ko01:34
lenSourcemage: I'm nb in linux, sorry01:34
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horizonin which directory01:34
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JosefKhorizon: wherever it asks you to01:34
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hesperuscafuego: i've done find /lib/modules -iname *nvidia*01:34
ice_1963f flashplayer then :)01:34
horizonit doent show me a path01:34
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hesperusnothing like that exists01:34
Jack_Sparrowlen: Start by identifying what video card/chipset you have and if you have installed the drivers for that card yet01:34
stuh84Juanjo: http://bin-false.org/?p=17 this of any help to you?01:34
JosefKhorizon: you may be best making one under /var, say /var/video, and if it wants it in root, symlink it01:34
dan2cafuego: I didn't know you used ubuntu?01:34
cafuegodan2: have for ages. As well as Debian.01:35
horizonok now i try01:35
lenthe thing is I have a geforce 7800 gtx and when I use in shell: glxinfo | grep "direct" says 'direct rendering: No'01:35
horizonbut i use suse linux01:35
lenI used the Nvidia Binary drives.01:35
horizonis it a problem?01:35
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JosefKhorizon: if you're using SuSE, I really don't know.01:35
JosefKhorizon: it has its own magic, but this would probably be fine.01:35
Jack_Sparrow!ati01:35
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:35
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horizoni think the mentality could be same01:36
Jack_Sparrowlen: is that the link you used?01:36
wantedboy, how redirect X in two $DISPLAY ??01:36
funkygreendogswhat path should i put in the lilo config file to boot the Ubuntu kernel ???01:36
lenJack_Sparrow: I used nvidia binary... seems to be working01:36
juanjostuh84, i have read an followed that, but i have problems cause i get the apic kernel panic 99% of the times y boot, and also cause the install program hangs when the copying process is by the 40%01:36
horizoni try /var/video01:36
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JosefKhorizon: don't forget to symlink it to /video .01:37
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hesperusis anyone using the 686 kernel (not the default 386)?01:37
darkanyelme01:37
horizonsymlink?01:37
stuh84not much i can help with then, dont own a mac....yet01:37
horizoncan you explain?01:37
darkanyelim sing 68601:37
WhiteDethHey, just about to install Ubuntu for the first time...01:37
TracerBulletI want to use a package that's available in debian non-free with ubuntu .. whats the best way to do it ?01:37
hesperusdarkanyel: do you have the nvidia.ko module?01:37
lenJack_Sparrow: I 1st followed this tutorial, but some steps were different so I just used 'sudo ssh NVIDIA<...>' then it self instaled01:37
darkanyelnop01:37
WhiteDethIs it best to download the drivers et al beforehand?01:37
lupine_85TracerBullet: cautiously :)01:37
hesperusdarkanyel: so, it's officially missing from the 686 package01:37
darkanyeli use ati01:37
TracerBulletlol lupine_85 .. that's why i'm asking here :-)01:38
cafuegoWhiteDeth: no, they're pretty much all included.01:38
lupine_85Your best bet would be to get and build the source package, if the .deb doesn't exist in dapper01:38
stuh84whitedeth: your best bet is to load the live cd01:38
darkanyeldont know :S01:38
stuh84and see what works and doesn't work01:38
XenguyWhiteDeth: try the live cd first to test various hardware compability01:38
cafuegoWhiteDeth: And if not included, at least prepackaged for easy use and maintanability.01:38
hesperusdarkanyel: i thought all closed modules are in the linux-restricted package...01:38
stuh84more often than not nearly everything will work01:38
ztgubuntu-server keeps locking up any ideas?01:38
WhiteDethI think that's what I downloaded. Is the Live CD what I downloaded straight from Ubuntu.com ? :\01:38
DarkMageZdarkanyel, did you end up sorting that issue that when you press the music button on your keyboard that it opens rhythmbox instread of amarok?01:38
stuh84whitedeth: it should be01:38
stuh84best way to test, put it in your drive01:38
cafuegohesperus: They are, but some people think that usinf nvidia ones is somehow a better idea (it's not).01:38
stuh84start the pc up01:39
XenguyWhiteDeth: the live cd and the install cd are the same cd for dapper now01:39
stuh84watch, and wait for the ubuntu splash screen01:39
Jack_Sparrowlen: Please post your xorg.conf to the !pastebin for people to chack it out.01:39
lupine_85cafuego: the 9xxx series drivers r0x0r01:39
lupine_85but they aren't in the repos ;)01:39
mdkanedai'm having a serious problem! lol. I had ubuntu on my system installed on HDA w/ no other operating systems. I needed to install windows xp again on this machine, so i decided to put my other HD into this system as HDA, and move the existing HDA to HDB (because i knew windows would have a problem if it wasnt on the 1st partition of the 1st drive)... i changed my fstab and grub config files, installed WinXP, and reinstalled Grub into HDA01:39
funkygreendogsAnyone: What path should i put in the lilo config file to boot the Ubuntu kernel ???01:39
lenJack_Sparrow: kk just 1 sec01:39
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cafuegolupine_85: The ones in the repo work fine.01:39
hesperuscafuego: i didn't understand what you mean01:39
cafuegolupine_85: And are easy for most people to manage.01:39
lupine_85true enough01:39
TracerBulletlupine_85 is there a way to install a build environment without bringing down each package individually ??01:39
darkanyelDarkMageZ no01:39
lupine_85TracerBullet: pbuilder ?01:39
hesperusshould i use the VESA drivers but not the closed nvidia ones?01:40
stuh84mkaneda: whats the actual problem then01:40
stuh84?01:40
lupine_85but then, morse code works "fine"... as does IPoAC01:40
darkanyelDarkMageZ, no i dont know how can i configure that01:40
DarkMageZdarkanyel, nvm, i thought i knew where that was... but i just tried finding it again and no luck, sry01:40
lupine_85(avian carrier)01:40
TracerBulletgcc / make / and the ac-* family01:40
Jack_Sparrow!build-essential01:40
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)01:40
lenJack_Sparrow:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2482301:40
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Jack_Sparrowchecking01:40
mdkanedastuh84: it wont mount root, its looking in the wrong spot. cant get in to change fstab to actually boot my files01:40
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hesperuscafuego: ?01:41
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stuh84hmm, boot up the ubuntu live cd and edit from within there maybe?01:41
WhiteDethhow much space is recommended for a partition to have to install Ubuntu?01:41
lupine_85mind you, I've always had problems with the linux-restricted-modules package01:41
TracerBulletthanks Jack_Sparrow01:41
stuh84whitedeth: I've done it on about 4 gig before with no problems, but if you intend to use it properly, a good 10 at least01:41
cafuegohesperus: Some people insist on doing things the hard way. Unfortunately that means they can make it impossible for others to manage their Linux install properly.01:41
XenguyWhiteDeth: minimum 4 Gb IIRC01:41
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mheathHmmm. I have a bunch of .deb files locally. What do I need to do to just dpkg -i one of them, and have it auto resolve dependencies using other local files?01:42
darkanyelDarkMageZ, but isnt a way to change the default programs of ubuntu??01:42
WhiteDethHeh, awesome, im gonna be writing it over my Windows Vista partition, so that's a good 20GB there.01:42
lupine_85mheath: dpkg -i *deb would work better01:42
hesperuscafuego: i don't get you pal... what am i doing wrong?01:42
cafuegohesperus: Nothing. Not you :-)01:42
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mheathlupine_85, well, I'm not sure I need all the packages. I just really need _one_, and any dependencies it happens to need.01:42
lupine_85ah01:42
DarkMageZdarkanyel, oh there is, i thought i remembered it, but i tried to find it again, but i couldn't.01:42
hesperusi'm downloading the 386 kernel again... let's see01:42
stuh84whitedeth: 20 gig is fine :) my ubuntu install on my other pc is 16 gig, 8 gig on this (although i'm not in it, still need to sort out the wireless on this laptop, but that will come in time)01:43
Jack_SparrowTracerBullet: np01:43
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lupine_85dpkg "might" resolve the dependencies if they're in the same dir.. but then again it might not01:43
mdkanedai tried booting several restore discs, and nothing chroots into my environment. if i sit on ubuntu long enough, it says "mounting root file system" and eventually says "cant find root on hda2, going to shell" and i can get there, what can i type to chroot into my filesystem to change my fstab?01:43
lupine_85give it a try01:43
cafuegoit doesn't.01:43
Jay_LevittAnyone here know how to use saslpasswd2 and sasldb2 correctly?01:43
funkygreendogsanyone know What path should i put in the lilo config file to boot the Ubuntu kernel?01:43
hesperusok, it's a bug01:43
mheathlupine_85, will do :) I guess if worst comes to worst I can always extract the pkg and look at the deps myself :)01:43
hesperus /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/volatile/nvidia.ko exists !01:43
setuidHow do I fix pmount/udev to remove devices from the desktop when I unplug them?01:43
WhiteDethstuh84: Is there a list of all hardware compatible with Ubuntu's live CD? I'm actually looking to install XGL and Compiz, which is the main reason behind me installing Linux AT ALL.01:43
stuh84well cant you just do gksu gedit /etc/fstab?01:43
hesperusthe 686 version doesn't exist at all! isn't that wierd?01:43
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lupine_85hesperus: yep, deginitely a bug01:43
lupine_85!bugs01:43
jribsetuid: you should eject before you unplug01:43
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com01:43
mdkanedano, because its not loading root... there is not /etc/fstab01:44
setuidjrib, that's not always possible, and it used to work01:44
stuh84ah yes right i get you now01:44
stuh84and no way of mounting within the livecd i take it too?01:44
jribsetuid: what device is this?01:44
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mdkanedahm, well havnt tried putting the graphical live cd in and mounting from that, maybe i should try that first01:44
lupine_85hesperus: so you can either do it "properly" and report the bug, maybe build a l-r-m with the module if you're any good at that sort of thing, or wait for it to be fixed... use a different kernel... or use the nvidia installer01:45
Jack_Sparrowlen: I have an additional section for my nvidia  6600 Line 1:  Section "DRI"    then line 2    Mode0666   then line 3  EndSection01:45
stuh84yeah seems like a good opton to me01:45
lupine_85that's in order of "ubuntu properness", of course01:45
mdkanedaalright, well i'll give that a shot, and if no-go then i'll come back. hehe01:45
stuh84whitedeth: doesn't really need to find a list, just put the cd in, reboot, and see if it works fine01:45
WhiteDethoh, the Live CD doesnt install?01:46
stuh84as long as you have an nvidia or ati card though there are a furious amount of tutorials on how to setup XGL and compiz01:46
setuidjrib, CF card plugged into an external card reader over USB01:46
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WhiteDethdoes it just run like Knoppix? :\01:46
lupine_85nope :p01:46
stuh84yeah basically01:46
groutwhens edgy eft supposed to be released?01:46
lupine_85and compiz-quinn is broken at the moment01:46
lenJack_Sparrow: I used to had that line 2, but it should make no difference since in Modules section i got Load "DRI" commented01:46
WhiteDeththat sucks. How do I have it installed on my system? :\01:46
lupine_85your best bet is to wait for beryl's first pre-release01:46
hesperuslupine_85: i'll use the default 386...01:46
stuh84you can install it from within the lice cd01:46
stuh84*live01:46
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stuh84it has both options01:46
WhiteDethahh01:46
lupine_85ok. not much of a performance hit at all01:46
WhiteDethso I try it out first, by just rebooting, and then install it.01:47
WhiteDetham I right?01:47
stuh84even better than that01:47
lenJack_Sparrow: but I just added anyway01:47
Jack_Sparrowlen: Someone better at that will need to help you...  I am stretched kinda thina atm01:47
WhiteDethawesome, im running an nVidia 7900GS.01:47
stuh84you can install it from within the environment it loads up01:47
WhiteDethoh?01:47
stuh84you just double click the install icon you'll get01:47
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WhiteDethwow. Where the hell have I been living!01:47
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WhiteDeththis sounds awesome.01:47
funkygreendogsanyone know What path should i put in the lilo config file to boot the Ubuntu kernel?01:47
Jack_SparrowWhiteDeth: Can you help Len with his..?01:47
setuidbleh01:47
WhiteDethI'd love to, but it's my first time using Ubuntu :P01:48
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WhiteDethI've no experience.01:48
Jack_SparrowWhiteDeth: np01:48
lenlol01:48
WhiteDethbeta nVidia drivers?01:48
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stuh84whitedeth: i have to say it took me by surprise when i first loaded up the live cd and saw the install01:48
lupine_85ooops :D01:48
lenWhiteDeth: binary01:48
stuh84what took me even more by surprise is it all just worked too01:48
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lupine_85*plonk*01:49
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ryanakcacafuego: /query?01:49
horizonjosefk> i couldnt do it but thnx anyway it s better to try through suse forums01:49
cafuegoryanakca: /which one?01:49
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lupine_85WhiteDeth: assuming your "awesome" is about beryl/compiz, the nvidia beta drivers obsolete Xgl01:50
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lupine_85well, sort of01:50
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lupine_85it's only really useful in edgy01:50
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WhiteDethso wait...01:50
WhiteDethXGL are simply drivers?01:50
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WhiteDethand Compiz is that awesome 3D-desktop thing?01:50
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lupine_85no, Xgl is a big window01:51
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Cyberaihey, I am running Dapper with a radeon 9200 video card and an Acer 19" widescreen LCD. My LCD supports 1440x900 as it's best native resolution, but when I set my resolution to that I get very dark weird color. I have to go down to 1280x768 to get anything useable. I tried doing a sudo dpkg reconfig on xorg but no luck.01:51
WhiteDethsorry, im completely new to the scene.01:51
lupine_85compiz runs inside that big window, if you're using Xgl01:51
stodgeHi folks. I just installed Dapper Drake. How painless is the upgrade from it to Edgy?01:51
Cyberaidoes anyone have any insight on this problem?01:51
lupine_85AIGLX or the new nvidia drivers means that you don't use a big window any more01:51
ArrenLexCyberai: driver?01:51
jribstodge: edgy is still in development01:51
WhiteDethOH01:51
lupine_85stodge: moderately painless01:51
hesperuswhat do "rc" and "ii" mean in dpkg -l ?01:51
lupine_85not recommended though01:51
WhiteDethso it was as if it's emulated?01:51
chuckypstodge, painless?  you might as well punch yourself in the junk.01:51
CyberaiArrenLex, tried that, Im on the newest ATI01:51
DarkMageZstodge, is it a clean dapper install or have you added 3rd party stuff :P01:51
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lupine_85WhiteDeth: sort of.01:52
ArrenLexCyberai: "newest ATI" = "ati"? "atimisc"? "radeon"? "fglrx"?01:52
fourathello all01:52
hesperusthe man page doesn't say anything :|01:52
dodgeredgy runs smoothly. however, I would go from knot301:52
CyberaiArrenLex, let me look01:52
stodgeAh ok01:52
WhiteDethso what im really looking for now is AIGLX and Compiz?01:52
lupine_85not really01:52
fourathow can i get the 2.6.28 kernel on my dapper drake ?01:52
WhiteDethlupine: Is there a new version of Compiz that I should be looking at too?01:52
stodgeThat's a shame as Nautilus' slow speed is starting to grate on me01:52
WhiteDethoh01:52
fourat(clean way)01:52
lupine_85beryl is a fork of compiz01:52
WhiteDethheh. Im lost now.01:52
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lupine_85#ubuntu-xgl01:52
dodgerfourat: compile?01:52
fredlCyberai, you know you're on the newest but you need to look which one you're using?01:52
lupine_85we're OT here01:53
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Cyberaifredl, I ran sudo upgrade01:53
Flannelfourat: yeah, you can't 'cleanly'01:53
jpzorhello all... having trouble with v4l i have a bt848 card and getting this when i try to start up xawtv:01:53
stodgedarkmagez: I've since installed NVIDIA drivers and F-Spot, TomBoy and Thunderbird01:53
jpzorxf86dganodirectvideomode01:53
fredlah sudo upgrade... man I need to go to bed.01:53
fredl'nite.01:53
jpzorX Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode01:53
jpzor  Major opcode of failed request:  136 (XFree86-DGA)01:53
jpzor  Minor opcode of failed request:  1 (XF86DGAGetVideoLL)01:53
jpzor  Serial number of failed request:  1301:53
jpzor  Current serial number in output stream:  1301:53
DarkMageZstodge, from the offical ubuntu repositories? or by hand?01:53
Flannel!paste01:53
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:53
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stodgedarkmagez: Official repositories01:54
Cyberaisorry fredl, I ran sudo apt-get upgrade01:54
Cyberaisorry01:54
stodgeHaven't added any new repos01:54
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chuckypstodge, I would recommend a clean install but I did a dist-upgrade on one machine.  There will be errors though I can garantee that.01:54
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stodgeOk maybe I'll wait. I'01:54
stodgeI'll read the roadmap find out when the next release is01:54
chuckypstodge, well if you have a seperate home partition what do you have to lose?01:54
fredlit's okay Cyberai I'm just uhh edgy shall we say :P01:54
stodgeNot much - I'm just tired of re-installing Linux :)01:54
DarkMageZstodge, it would be best to do a clean install of knot 3, but it is possible to do a clean dist-upgrade01:55
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chuckypDarkMageZ, exactly01:55
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stodgeknot 3? Not familiar with that01:55
chuckypstodge, I dont' see the dist-upgrade failing I just don't think its that clean01:55
alex222any do i get the latest version of gnome baker (0.6)01:55
dodgerstodge: knot3 is your friend01:55
DarkMageZstodge, it's the name for the alpha of edgy :P01:55
chuckypstodge, knot3 is the current version of edgy01:55
stodgeThanks chuckyp01:55
stodgeAh :)01:55
stodgeThanks all01:55
alex222The SPM only shows 0.501:55
stodgeI've been away from Ubuntu for a wee while and haven't followed the news01:56
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CyberaiArrenLex, fredl, I'm running xorg-driver-fglrx and xserver-xorg-driver-ati01:56
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hesperushow can i disable the usplash stuff?01:56
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ArrenLexCyberai: fglrx, I'm assuming. DV or VGA? Anything special about your setup like dual head?01:57
CyberaiArrenLex, VGA, nothing special01:57
stodgeIs it possible to tell fspot where the photos should be stored?01:57
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ArrenLexhesperus: you mean, the ubuntu bootsplash, so you can see the kernel messages?01:57
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hesperusit's disabled from sysv-rc-conf, but i see it again on boot01:57
spiderwormhey all, ever since i started using xgl-compiz on this machine, the binaries in my ~/bin directory are no longer in my PATH, although the directory is still listed in my .bash_profile file..... anyone know anything about this?01:57
ArrenLexCyberai: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:57
CyberaiArrenLex, I just realized DRI was on, big no-no with ATI, could that be causing it?01:57
hesperusArrenLex: yeap, i don't want any splash at all :)01:57
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ArrenLexhesperus: it's in your /boot/grub/menu.lst01:58
DarkMageZalex222, you need to ask for a backport of gnome-baker from edgy to dapper. edgy has 0.601:58
stumblesInteresting... the "About Ubuntu" page provides no useful information about what "free software" and doesn't link to any place that does. It also makes no mention of the GNU project or the GNU GPL.01:58
hesperusArrenLex: kernel option?01:58
hesperuslet's see01:58
ArrenLexhesperus: find the option where it says whether to add splash to the entries and disable it. Then run grub-update.01:58
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dodgerhesperus I didn't try it, but removing splash from your kernel entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst should do the trick.01:58
hesperusi thought it was a boot service01:58
ArrenLexhes: or whatever the command is.01:58
fredrichanyone know if there's a .deb of sharehound circulating somewhere? it seems hard to install01:58
Jack_Sparrowspiderworm: How did you install xgl/compiz on your computer?  What tutorial?01:58
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chamoany webmaster working on Ubuntu ? I got some caracters problem when I upload the page on the webserver, like on http://www.brigitte-ravenel.ch/brigitte.php01:59
CyberaiArrenLex, http://paste.uni.cc/1039301:59
dodgerchamo: that's a mess01:59
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ArrenLexCyberai: dude, man, if you don't know how to answer a question, tell us you don't know rather than making up bullshit.     Driver  "ati"02:00
chamododger: yeah, and I don't understand why on my local Apache server it works fine, but after upload online, it's a mess02:00
ArrenLexCyberai: you're running the "ati" driver, not "fglrx".02:00
CyberaiArrenLex, sorry DUDE, I looked it up in synaptic DUDE02:00
ArrenLexCyberai: I suggest you change it to radeon, or else fglrx.02:00
CyberaiArrenLex, wow02:01
supermiguelwhat is the easiest way to set up an ftp server?02:01
CyberaiArrenLex, you know, there are lots of brands of decaf that are just as tasty at the regular coffee, try it02:01
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chamoanyone ?02:01
CyberaiArrenLex, but thanks for the help, sarcastic though it may be02:01
ArrenLexCyberai: the use of the word "dude" doesn't imply I'm mad at you. xD I'm just pointing out that you might want to answer questions correctly.02:02
ArrenLexCyberai: neither am I sarcastic.02:02
spiderwormJack_Sparrow: the wiki, same URL that the bot mentions when asking it about xgl02:02
CyberaiArrenLex, I just resent being acussed of bulshitting02:02
chamohehe02:02
spiderwormJack_Sparrow: i was in KDE at first and i was having the problem in kde02:02
stuh84chamo: best i can think of is some language packs issue, where its got language packs native to your editor02:03
CyberaiArrenLex, sorry I didn't read your mond as to where to look it up02:03
dodgerchamo: I guess your local apache is set up correctly for your french, but the one you upload to isn't. I see you are usinh php. as far as I know, php has to be comipled in a special way to use specail character sets.02:03
ArrenLexCyberai: well what would your term for making up answers be?02:03
spiderwormJack_Sparrow: now im using gnome and having the same problem02:03
stuh84actually thinking about it no nevermind02:03
stuh84cos you'll have previewed it in your browser02:03
stuh84hmm02:03
ArrenLexCyberai: that's fine! There are no problems with that. But if you're not sure let me know and I'll tell you.02:03
stuh84might be a php issue02:03
CyberaiArrenLex, well let's see, when your reaching a contradiction, check your premises, one of them is wrong02:03
spiderwormJack_Sparrow: im wondering if the problem really is not compiz/xgl but instead a gnome-terminal setting, where it doesnt use the .bash_profile file?02:03
CyberaiArrenLex, I looked in synaptic = not bullshit02:03
Cyberaigeez02:03
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stuh84dodger: i think thats what i was trying to get at02:04
chamododger, stuh84 : thanks. I'll dig into it. Hard to find a convenient solution.02:04
THX-1138Hi Jack_Sparrow02:04
ArrenLexCyberai: synaptic tells you what packages you have installed, it doesn't say what driver you're currently using. I have the vesa package installed, but I'm definitely not using vesa.02:04
spiderwormyeah Jack_Sparrow i figured it out :) sheesh! thanks02:04
ArrenLexSpeaking of which, why the hell do I have the vesa package installed? *removes*02:04
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Cyberaiarrogance like this is why windows people hate linux people. I'm a pretty long time linux guy and it ticks me off sometimes the attitude I get when I ask a question and I get atitude for not knowing exactly what someone means.02:04
Jack_Sparrowgreat02:04
CyberaiI can only imagine how it feels ota newbie02:05
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mabusCyberai: it looks like arrenlex is trying to help, relax02:05
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|thunderwassup all.02:05
hesperusCyberai: hey, chill out, ubuntu people are the less arrogant linux people IMHO02:05
ArrenLexCyberai: a newbie would say "how do I find that out?" and things would progress quickly. The point I'm trying to make is that it's hard to help someone when they make up answers to your questions.02:05
neomOh, hey! I tried the intel version of the ubundu liveCD on my macbook today, it like.. booted to some odd quake2 like menu with burning ubuntu and asked me how I wanted to install.. :S I didn't want to install.. I just wanted to run the liveCD to see what ubuntu looks like these day? :S02:05
|thunderwhats the easiest way to burn an ISO to CD ?02:05
spiderwormJack_Sparrow: in the gnome terminal > edit > current profile > enable Run command as a login shell02:05
Jack_Sparrowspiderworm: Noted..02:06
ArrenLexneom: did you download the "desktop" or the "alternate" cd?02:06
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Xenguy|thunder: k3b (unless you want command-line)02:06
jrib|thunder: right click on the .iso and select "write to disc..."02:06
CyberaiArrenLex, that's my point. I didn't make it up. how hard is that for you to understand?02:06
mabusneom: what's the filename of the iso you downloaded02:06
spiderwormJack_Sparrow: but i suspect you already knew that02:06
ArrenLex!tell |thunder about !iso02:06
stuh84yeah was gonna say, sounds like you've got the wrong version02:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about !iso - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:06
ArrenLex/tell |thunder about !iso02:06
ArrenLexWhichever one of those works. xD02:06
neomedgy-alternate-i3866.iso :S02:06
CyberaiArrenLex, I looked in the wrong place, BIG difference02:06
stuh84theres the prob02:06
neomI'm gonna presume I'm an idiot?02:06
stuh84dont get the alternate02:06
neomk02:06
stuh84:P you said it first neom02:07
neom:P02:07
Xenguy|thunder: growisofs -Z /dev/cdrom=____.iso    :-)02:07
neomI'm not afraid to admit my own incompetence. :D02:07
Cyberaianyway, off to restart X02:07
mabusneom: I'm presuming you got the wrong cd.02:07
stuh84its not your incompetence02:07
chamododger, stuh84 : tried with a copy in html format, same problem : http://www.brigitte-ravenel.ch/brigitte.html02:07
THX-1138thunder - gnomebaker is graphical cdrecord or cdrtools is commandline.02:07
ArrenLexCyberai: fine, fine, honest mistake, let's proceed.02:07
mabusneom: But useful to have, no worries. Just download the right one, burn it, and keep your alternate cd.02:07
stuh84its everyone else is too intelligent :p02:07
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spiderwormneom: I'm not afraid to admit your incompetence either.02:07
mabusArrenLex: he's gone ;)02:07
ArrenLexYay!02:07
|thundernoemWow thanks ArrenLex and Xenguy jrib and THX-1138 .   theres a million ways, lol02:07
ArrenLexThat was annoying.02:08
stuh84the alternate is great for fixing grub i have to say02:08
neomAlso, can the liveCD effect (negatively) my OS X partition?02:08
|thunderwriting ubuntu32 at 8x on my 64x writer.   :)02:08
stuh84and just general repair/upgrades02:08
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ArrenLexneom: no, the liveCD doesn't touch your disc.02:08
mabusneom: On the plus side, I didn't know the alternate cd was like the breezy install cd... I missed that form of installation over the desktop cd of dapper drake.02:08
kitcheneom: unless you mess with the parition :)02:09
ArrenLexmabus: I know. I hate the graphical installer too; I installed from alternate.02:09
mabusneom: although you have the option to install off of the livecd with a VERY VERY simple program right on the desktop. It's like a 3 step gui questionaire.. easier than windows02:09
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stuh84yep, heres a tip, dont open gparted :P02:09
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stuh84otherwise known as the Gnome Partition Editor02:09
THX-1138mabus - Can i ask a question about DVD burning and the "Book Type" setting? - How do i see what model DVD drive i have?02:09
dodgerchamo: you could try using quanta. when you type a special character, it offers you the correct html code for it.02:09
stuh84or as is mentioned the install02:09
stuh84just dont open either of the two and you'll be fine02:09
kyjahow would I use qemu to boot up another linux distro =] 02:10
stuh84it'll be blindingly obvious that you've opened them though02:10
ArrenLexneom: to summarise everyone's frantic warnings: NO, unless you go to the icon clearly marked 'install now' and then click past five screens properly, intelligently set your partition options and then confirm it like twice.02:10
stuh84so dont worry about for want of a better phrase, twatting things up02:10
ArrenLexneom: aka no.02:10
THX-1138!qemu02:10
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo02:10
neomAlright, cool.02:10
chamododger: thanks. I heard it might be a BOM02:10
chamodue to SCITE02:10
kyjathx02:10
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neomI thank you for your adivce guys!02:10
dodgerchamo: BOM?02:10
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moghi02:11
mogcan someone tell me how to fix the dapper drake issue with vncserver?02:11
ArrenLexmog: what issue is this now?02:11
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krazykitmog: there's an issue?02:11
chamododger: http://unicode.org/faq/utf_bom.html#2202:11
mogit cant find the font02:11
mogdirectory02:11
stuh84right tatty byes time02:11
mogon my machine02:11
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ArrenLex!enter02:11
chamopourtant j'ai checker plusieurs fois la config de scite, mais rien vu sur utf8 cookie02:11
mogi just did an apt-get update upgrade02:11
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.02:11
hesperusoh, this is annoying... i fixed menu.lst (removed the splash) and every time the kernel is upgraded, apt-get messes my conf and splash comes back! how can i avoid that "automagical" wizardry?02:11
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ArrenLexhesperus: I told you how to do it properly.02:12
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hesperusArrenLex: i commented the splash word, what should i do?02:12
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zoredachehesperus: you could comment out the preinst and postinst hook in /etc/kernel-img.conf02:12
ArrenLex(17:58:35) ArrenLex: hesperus: find the option where it says whether to add splash to the entries and disable it. Then run grub-update.02:12
Lam_NetworkManager or KWifiManager?02:12
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dodgerchamo: never heard that before. what are you editing your file with?02:13
hesperusArrenLex: sudo: grub-update: command not found02:13
ArrenLexhesperus: pastebin your menu.lst02:13
ArrenLexhesperus: update-grub.02:13
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ArrenLexhes: apparently I'm lysdexic.02:13
mogkrazykit, or ArrenLex anyy ideas?02:13
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mogor is vncserver brokein dapper?02:14
ArrenLexmog: can you try running 'vncserver' and then pastebin the actual error message?02:14
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mogyes i am02:14
B|Charmgot a question for you all02:14
ArrenLexmog: you are what?02:14
ArrenLex!ask02:14
jpzoranybody having problems with TV tuner cards in dapper?02:14
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hesperusArrenLex: i did it. it messed my conf again.. :/02:14
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chalcedonyhow do i get a flash player that works with ubuntu dapper02:14
chalcedonyand if there is one, what might it be called?02:14
ArrenLexhesperus: pastebin your menu.lst02:14
mogcould not open default font 'fixed'02:14
krazykitmog: it's that the fonts are in a different place than expected.  i recall there being some configuration options...02:14
B|CharmI have a usb mouse, how would I get that recognized?02:14
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:14
hesperusok02:14
mogis the error02:14
ArrenLexchal: from adobe.com, and it's called "flash player".02:14
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ArrenLexmog: are you able to start X?02:15
chalcedonyArrenLex: gee ty :) i could have guessed :)02:15
mogyes02:15
mogand the vncserver in gnome works02:15
dougsko**** anyone who wants to play a quiz in #ubuntu-trivia is welcome.02:15
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ArrenLexB|Charm: are you experiencing problems? I never had any problems with my USB mice.02:15
FoodStampzCan someone help me with a problem im having with ubuntu @ a 7800GT PCIE02:15
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hesperusArrenLex: http://pastebin.ca/18242302:16
DarkMageZchalcedony, there is a package in the multiverse repository by the name of flashplugin-nonfree02:16
B|CharmArrenLex: Well, it just doesn't recognize02:16
jpzorfoodstampz, whats the issue02:16
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B|CharmArrenLex: Wait thats a lie, it will recognize as in able to right click02:16
simtowerlollerskates02:16
FoodStampzi installed ubuntu and after it starts up and I think it's getting ready to load the gui02:16
Lam_!wifi02:16
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:16
B|CharmArrenLex: but won't move when I move02:16
FoodStampzi get snow02:16
FoodStampzi have pictures if you want to see them02:16
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jpzorsure02:16
jpzorsend them over02:16
kamuiI got a wierd error when doing an apt-get remove, I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/var/lib/scrollkeeper/(null)/scrollkeeper_cl.xml"02:17
kamui** (process:5956): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed02:17
kamuiwhat does that mean?02:17
chalcedonyDarkMageZ: wow ok :)02:17
ArrenLexhesperus: I'm not sure about this, because this same line is in my own menu.lst and it still doesn't make splash, but try changing line 65 to remove splash.02:17
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mogare their files i need to symlink to get it to work, can you test it ArrenLex or anyone for that matter is vncserver package just broken02:17
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hayden!grub02:17
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:17
FoodStampzjpzor ygpm02:17
DarkMageZchalcedony, there is an even better version of it in the backports-multiverse repository 02:18
ArrenLexhesperus: and I can't do math either. 85.02:18
jpzorfoodstampz, kk02:18
FoodStampznm i see I cant do that02:18
hesperusArrenLex: i know how to remove it, but every time the kernel will be upgraded, the conf will be messed again... i want to avoid that02:18
FoodStampzill just post the link here02:18
FoodStampzhttp://www.futuremark.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2015302:18
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jpzorkk02:18
DarkMageZchalcedony, it is only flash player 7 tho... flash 9 is currently being worked on for linux 02:18
chalcedonyDarkMageZ: multiserv repository? that'd be synaptic package manager, or ad/remove ?02:19
zoredachehesperus: you could comment out the preinst and postinst hook in /etc/kernel-img.conf... that is what the kernel scripts used to figure out how to update the bootloader02:19
jpzorfoodstampz, did you install the nvidia-glx02:19
ArrenLexhesperus: the options for the "Debian Automagic Kernels List" are created based on the default options you specify above. Line 85 is part of those default options. So if you remove splash from line 85, it SHOULD stop adding splash to the kernel lines when it generates them.02:19
FoodStampzi just did the normal install02:19
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jpzori had the same issues02:19
FoodStampzi didnt even get to gnome02:19
jpzorok, i can help :-)02:19
thinkweirdis here anyone using ubuntu on a thinkpad t43?02:19
FoodStampzthank god02:19
FoodStampz:D02:19
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DarkMageZchalcedony, system > administration > software properties02:19
thinkweirdwhat about the hardware support?02:19
B|Charmthinkweird: I am02:19
supermigueledit "builddefs.h" to handle compile-time settings (tcp_wrappers build,02:20
supermigueletc).02:20
DarkMageZchalcedony, try and enable multiverse and backports multiverse02:20
supermiguelwhat is that mean02:20
thinkweirdb|charm: does it has fan control? what hardware is not supported?02:20
chamododger : SCITE02:20
jpzorfoodstampz, i opened a new window to talk to u in02:20
tonyyarussothinkweird: Yes.02:20
FoodStampzok02:20
FoodStampzi had one but the system tells me02:20
TracerBulletlibtiff4-dev: Depends: libtiff4 (=3.7.4-1ubuntu3) but 3.7.4-1ubuntu3.2 is to be installed02:20
B|Charmthinkweird: yes it has fan control02:20
FoodStampzits not allowed cuz of spam02:20
chalcedonyty working at it now DarkMageZ :)02:20
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B|Charmthinkweird: as for hardware supported you should ask me what hardware you want02:20
jpzorkk02:21
TracerBulletany idea how to overcome the above dependency problem ?02:21
B|Charmthinkweird: and I could say yes or no02:21
tonyyarussothinkweird: Only thing that wasn't ootb for me was the modem, which works with the linuxant driver ($20).02:21
supermigueledit "builddefs.h" to handle compile-time settings (tcp_wrappers build,etc).02:21
supermiguelwhat is that02:21
FoodStampzaol icq msn or yahoo?02:21
thinkweirdI don't need modem anyway.02:21
jpzoralirght, you need to login as root,02:21
B|Charmthinkweird: good to go then02:21
FoodStampzok02:21
jpzoror do this:02:21
jpzorsudo apt-get install nvidia-glx02:21
thinkweirdtonyyarusso, B|Charm I have firegl v3200 ati02:21
thinkweirddoes it supported?02:21
anto9us*ding dong* This is a public announcement. A quiz is now starting in #ubuntu-trivia. Come join us to exercise your ubuntu brain muscle or even learn from the posers. Be there or be square. Thank you for your co-operation. *dong ding*02:21
hesperusArrenLex: here's another bug. if i remove only the splash word, everything is ok. if i remove both splash and quiet, then both these arguments are passed in the kernel!02:21
jpzorsudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common02:22
thinkweirdB|Charm, haven't used linux for about half a year. got a bit rusty02:22
bimberimog: 'cd /usr/X11R6/lib/X11'  then  'sudo ln -s /usr/share/X11/fonts fonts'02:22
jpzorsudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:22
B|Charmthinkweird: haha not a problem, just got in the game myself02:22
thinkweirdtonyyarusso, your machine is a t43 as well?02:22
B|Charmthinkweird: and yes it does02:22
ArrenLexhesperus: I haven't messed with it very much. I don't know why it does that. Maybe the evil kernel-option-passing gnomes are doing it.02:22
jpzorreplace "nv" with "nvidia"02:22
thinkweirdwhat game? B|Charm02:22
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tonyyarussothinkweird: I'm not sure, since I have the ati m x300, but there are charts on the wiki you could check.  You'll be able to get a successful startup I'm sure, it's just a question of what you need to do and if you can get good acceleration.02:22
B|Charmthinkweird: the linux game ;)02:23
tonyyarussothinkweird: Yeah, T43 2668-49U02:23
jpzorthen do: nvidia-glx-config enable02:23
lcohenHi all, I have kitchensync-opensync but when i setup my syncml, it never connects, always stuck at ready...02:23
B|Charmtonyyarusso: Team ThinkPad t43 WOOT02:23
tonyyarussohehe02:23
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thinkweirdtonyyarusso, B|Charm  do you guys feel fan is bit loud?02:23
B|Charmthinkweird: all the time02:24
thinkweirdin a quet room and it just hmming on, non-stopping.02:24
hesperusArrenLex: ok, i've put a space and now it seems ok =)02:24
thinkweirdB|Charm, it is on all the time?02:24
B|Charmthinkweird: oh mine only runs when needed02:24
B|Charmthinkweird: nope02:24
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ArrenLexhesperus: spaces are the saviour of us all. Hail!02:24
thinkweirdB|Charm, mine is on all the time.02:24
tonyyarussothinkweird: It varies.  Sometimes it seems on the high end, but so is my temp, so it prolly should be.02:24
jpzorif it doesn't work after reboot,  let me know, cuz i will get you going after that02:24
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FoodStampzshould i do that from the safemode prompt?02:24
jpzoras long as you are root running those commands02:25
FoodStampzok02:25
FoodStampzalright im gunna go try it02:25
FoodStampzbrb02:25
jpzorit shouldn't matter02:25
jpzorkk02:25
thinkweirdB|Charm, tonyyarusso   you know, mine is on all the time and I am hesitating of return this machine.02:25
FoodStampzthanks02:25
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thinkweirdB|Charm, tonyyarusso  so your fans are not on all the time?02:25
B|Charmthinkweird: nah don't return it, you can control when it runs02:25
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tonyyarussothinkweird: Well, I think they're probably on all the time, but they aren't always at max speed.02:26
thinkweirdB|Charm, I can indeed but I think why ibm does not make it better.02:26
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thinkweirdtonyyarusso, don't you feel that it is irritating?02:26
B|Charmthinkweird: haha, IBM has had some issues these past few years with things that should be simple02:26
tonyyarussothinkweird: There are some nifty scripts at the ThinkWiki for fan control, although I haven't gotten around to trying them yet.02:26
tonyyarussothinkweird: Only mildly, and certain less so than the latest Windows virus.02:26
kitcheB|Charm: anyways IBM only does servers now and have been for a long time02:26
thinkweirdtonyyarusso, so surprised you can take it when the fan is on all the time.02:27
thinkweirdB|Charm, how long have you got your t43?02:27
B|Charmthinkweird: mmmm about 4 months02:27
B|Charmthinkweird: before I had a t4202:27
thinkweirdB|Charm, I have another question about the keyboard: my left ctrl key alreay got a little squeaky.02:28
thinkweirdand not so responsive after I got it for only five days.02:28
B|Charmthinkweird: interesting, what did you spill on it?02:28
dragonflysevenSorry, quick question. I just started IRCing, and I was wondering if there were any less hectic, less specialized rooms anyone could recomend.02:29
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thinkweirdB|Charm, tonyyarusso honestly, I don't think thinkpad is as good as it is rumored. actually I am a little disappointed02:29
tonyyarussothinkweird: Anything besides the fan?02:29
B|Charmthinkweird: like any other laptop it will have it's downfalls however I really do enjoy the laptop02:29
B|Charmthinkweird: and i'm a picky boy02:30
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thinkweirdtonyyarusso, no.02:30
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thinkweirdjust the fan. I really need it to be quiet.02:30
thinkweirdB|Charm, are you running any fan control scripts?02:30
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B|Charmthinkweird: I am not, but I will find you the link to them02:31
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krazykitdragonflyseven: for what?  there are zillions of channels on tons of networks.02:31
B|Charmthinkweird: give me a second, what is your OS?02:31
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SkrotHi. Is there a way to turn alsa off (and remove snd_ modules) in ubuntu?02:31
BirdHow do I run gst-register?02:31
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kitchedragonflyseven: it all depends what your looking for really02:31
krazykitSkrot: you could just unload the alsa modules and add them to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist02:31
thinkweirdB|Charm, windows02:31
B|Charmok let me check it out for you02:31
dragonflysevenGood point. Any site listing channels by topic?02:31
B|Charmgive me a few, I need a smoke02:32
thinkweirdB|Charm, I know there is a program that controls fan speed.02:32
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Skrotkrazykit: I don't want to do that. I want to remove them and reprobe them with different arguments.. trying to figure out surround sound :)02:32
BirdDid anyone here hear how Hulk Hogan just died?02:32
thinkweirdB|Charm, but I guess I am more picky than you. since I believe ibm should have done it.02:32
thinkweirdtonyyarusso, how long have you kept your thinkpad?02:32
krazykitSkrot: oh, then just rmmod the modules.  lsmod will list them, and you can grep the snd_ modules02:33
tonyyarussothinkweird: Got it in June of last year.02:33
kitchethinkweird: why are you calling lenvo ibm? they are two seperate companies02:33
Skrotkrazykit: Problem is; the snd_ modules are in use, so it won't let me rmmod them02:33
thinkweirdkitche, I know. but I think ibm is a better brand. btw, I am chinese02:33
thinkweird:)02:33
Skrotkrazykit: FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel is in use. :>02:33
krazykitSkrot: rmmod -f02:33
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thinkweirdkitche, I don't trust local brands.02:34
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krazykitSkrot: or do lsof on all the /dev nodes that have to do with sound and kill the processes using them02:34
tonyyarussothinkweird: Well, I also think IBM is a better brand, so maybe the fact that they're Lenovo is part of our problem?02:34
bimberidragonflyseven: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist02:34
kitchethinkweird: well lenvo been making ibm laptops for about 5 years now in reality02:34
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thinkweirdtonyyarusso, no, t43 is still ibm. I like this machine before I noticed the noisy fan.02:34
xMorphixkitche: THAT was the name of them02:34
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thinkweirdthinkweird, I hate to tweak a brand new laptop just to make it work quitely.02:35
dragonflysevenbimberi: thank you.02:35
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FoodStampzexit02:35
chalcedonywhat's Xfmedia? it says Lightweight media player below it, is that one i want?02:35
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thinkweirdtonyyarusso, you stay in a noisy environment?02:35
bimberidragonflyseven: yw :)02:35
xMorphixthinkweird: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_fan_noise02:35
xMorphixthinkweird: now let me see if they have something for you window users02:36
thinkweirdxMorphix, thanks.02:36
Thurynyo02:36
gopssHi02:36
aswpsup02:36
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ziro01Hello02:36
thinkweirdxMorphix, yes.02:36
A-L-P-H-AHi, how stop X and get straight to the terminal?  I want to install new video drivers, as the current nvidia drivers are causing an issue.02:36
Thurynsecret02:36
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gopssthat's a secret02:36
thinkweirdxMorphix, I was a debian user.02:36
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jpzorfoodstampz, any luck?02:36
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tonyyarussothinkweird: Not particularly.  My room and uni lectures.  The T43 is actually manufactured by Lenovo now though, they're just allowed to use the IBM branding on it - IBM does not manufacture them even though they have the logo.02:36
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krazykitA-L-P-H-A: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop02:37
chalcedonywb FoodStampz02:37
FoodStampzthanks02:37
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profoX`is it just me or does the fglrx driver not allow direct rendering in 2 separate X servers ?02:37
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FoodStampzjpzor, i got it working now thanks to you :)02:37
FoodStampznow I have another question02:37
thinkweirdtonyyarusso, don't you think it is ridiculous that other brands does not have fan running all the while and all the pad fans still like thinkpads, noisy02:37
jpzorfoodstampz, thats great!02:37
krazykitprofoX`: that's how it is.  ATI drivers are junk.02:37
jpzorwhats your next q02:37
aswpdon't know02:37
FoodStampz60hz refresh = death02:37
ziro01dunno02:38
FoodStampzi tried to turn it up but it wont go02:38
mdkanedaalright, i'm in Ubuntu's graphical LiveCD.. i need to mount my root partition with read/write permissions located at /dev/hdb2   how do i do so within this live cd so i can figure out why its not booting??!?02:38
jpzorwhat monitor do you have02:38
FoodStampzkds xflat02:38
profoX`krazykit: are you sure about that? that fglrx doesnt support 2 X servers running direct rendering?02:38
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krazykitprofoX`: positive.02:38
Admiral_Chicagomdkaneda, use the mount command02:38
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profoX`krazykit: wow.. thats... erm.. extremely junky02:38
xMorphixthinkweird: http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?p=158780&sid=f35af9a2972edda7460c433ffa75e75e02:38
profoX`:/02:38
Admiral_Chicagosudo mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt/02:38
FoodStampzit supports 85hz @ 1024x76802:38
FoodStampzdrive issue02:38
FoodStampz?02:38
simtoweranyone can use my computer with ubuntu at work?02:39
mdkanedaadmiral: thanx02:39
xMorphixthinkweird: and there are some other forums with that, that will tell you how to drop it down and off02:39
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jpzorfoodstampz, you need to edit your xorg.conf file again02:39
thinkweirdxMorphix, you are using a thinkpad as well?02:39
profoX`krazykit: so how am i supposed to play my 3D games now without accelerated Xnest or seperate X server, now I run XGL by default :/02:39
FoodStampzjoy!02:39
jpzor/etc/X11/xorg.conf02:39
chalcedonydid DarkMageZ go off? i found something .. got a question again: what's Xfmedia? it says Lightweight media player below it, is that one i want?02:39
xMorphixthinkweird: I am charm02:39
profoX`worked fine on my nvidia box02:39
Victorsssswhen me go install one program on my linux ubuntu happened this text "you dont have support for tcl.. you need install the tcltls for this" how do i this?02:39
thinkweirdcharm?02:39
krazykitprofoX`: you go and buy an nvidia card02:39
xMorphixthinkweird: and yes02:39
jpzorfoodstampz, gimme one sec02:39
tonyyarussothinkweird: Every brand will have its issues, and if I have to have one, the fan is pretty minor.02:39
thinkweirdxMorphix, ? what do  you mean by charm?02:39
FoodStampzok02:39
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DarkMageZchalcedony, for flashplayer you want to install the flashplugin-nonfree package :P02:39
xMorphixthinkweird: I just changed my nickname02:39
xMorphixthinkweird: ;)02:40
chalcedonyDarkMageZ: non-free ?02:40
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profoX`krazykit: its a laptop......02:40
thinkweirdtonyyarusso, tell me more about the goodies of thinkpad. cause this is my first laptop and I have no way to compare02:40
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Victorsssswhen me go install one program on my linux ubuntu happened this text "you dont have support for tcl.. you need install the tcltls for this" how do i this? everyone can me help?02:40
profoX`thinkweird: the drivebay can be pulled out :P02:40
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thinkweirdxMorphix, ok. morphix, also debian flavored. thanks02:40
profoX`but you need support for that, a kernel module02:40
ablyssanyone know what this means Sep 25 20:40:19 localhost kernel: [247774.765006]  VFS: busy inodes on changed media.02:40
profoX`see thinkwiki :)02:40
profoX`www.thinkwiki.org interesting site thinkweird02:40
DarkMageZchalcedony, unfortunantly... adobe doesn't give us the sourcecode to the flashplayer... it's free but it's not opensource. i suppose the naming is confusing02:40
simtowerthinkwiki is the best02:40
simtower#ubuntu-laptop FTW02:41
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krazykitprofoX`: you're out of luck then until the xorg drivers either support your card (9600 and below now, i think) or until ATI decides to release drivers that aren't junk.02:41
thinkweirdprofoX`, and why should I pull out drive bay?02:41
Admiral_ChicagoVictorssss, open up a terminal and type sudo apt-get install tcltls02:41
Victorsssseveryone help me?02:41
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tonyyarussothinkweird: Well, I had someone sit on mine and it still works, for one.02:41
profoX`thinkweird: i dont know.. just because you CAN !02:41
wantedHow can i devide/duplicate server x in two displays???02:41
jpzorfoodstampz02:41
chalcedonyDarkMageZ: phew :) ty scared me!02:41
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FoodStampzyeayh02:41
Admiral_ChicagoVictorssss, open up a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install tcltls"02:41
jpzorfoodstampz, follow this link: it should get you started on fixing it: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8397302:41
jpzorgood luck!!!02:42
jpzor:-D02:42
profoX`thinkweird: just because you can hotswap (switch) the drive bay with another device on the fly while the os is running02:42
thinkweirdthinkweird, ok. that's good.02:42
FoodStampzthanks for all the help man :D02:42
simtower!laptop02:42
ubotuLaptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org02:42
profoX`thinkweird: very solid notebooks02:42
thinkweirdtonyyarusso, that's good.02:42
jpzornp bro02:42
profoX`thinkweird: and erm.. good linux support02:42
jpzorhave fun!02:42
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profoX`they look ugly though imo, but thats just my opinion02:42
FoodStampzthanks02:42
profoX`and they are expensive :/02:42
thinkweirdprofoX`, ok. how long do you think it is gonna last? how many years?02:42
thinkweirdprofoX`, if I use carefully02:42
mdkanedaIS there any reason why ubuntu is looking for my root filesystem on hda2 when my /etc/fstab says / is hdb2?02:42
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tonyyarussoI like the look; simple and professional.  I don't need it to be flowery, I need it to be a functional machine, so that's good.02:43
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BoelckeCommand Line Question: How can I read each line of a text file, but one at a time?  I know how to grep for something, but not how to go through each line...02:43
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jpzori need help with my tv tuner card: i get an error on xawtv saying DGA is not working02:43
thinkweirdprofoX`, you know. lenovo sells t60 with linux support 800 dollars higher than windows02:43
Boelckemdkaneda, it would help to see your fstab...02:43
Victorsssshey Admiral_Chicago.. show this.. "cannot find the pack tcltls" what do i?02:43
robertsHi, I'm trying to compile projectM, and it keeps telling me "make: command not found" even though I have (multiple versions of) GCC installed.02:43
thinkweirdtonyyarusso, for two...?02:43
crimsunroberts: build-essential, too?02:44
Admiral_Chicagotonnyyarusso is a robot02:44
krazykitroberts: install build-essential02:44
thinkweirdtonyyarusso, what kind of screen you have? what graphic card?02:44
tonyyarussothinkweird: Sweetest keyboard I've had the pleasure of typing on.02:44
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robertsThanks!02:44
tonyyarussothinkweird: 14.1", 1024x768 default res, ATI Radeon Mobility X300.02:44
thinkweirdtonyyarusso, does it make some sounds when you type or it is just silent?02:44
Victorsssshey Admiral_Chicago.. show this.. "cannot find the pack tcltls" what do i? do you know?02:44
thinkweirdtonyyarusso, mine makes some sounds when typing.02:45
bimberiBoelcke: 'less file' and use the Enter key to show one line at a time02:45
Admiral_ChicagoVictorssss, hold on02:45
zoredacheBoelcke: one fairly common way is with a for command that is somewhat like  for line in `cat filename`02:45
tonyyarussothinkweird: Depends how I hit the keys.  It's not perfectly silent, but it's darn quiet, and very ergonomic.02:45
Stix09hey, im trying to install from the live cd, and while its booting everything goes fine until it trys to start the "Enterprise Volume Managment System", at which point it displays the error "Buffer I/O errer of device dm-1 logical block 3215852"02:45
thinkweirdtonyyarusso, do you think it really makes a difference between resolutions?  xgv or sxgv?02:45
Admiral_Chicagoyou have to enable universe02:45
Admiral_Chicago!repo > Victorssss02:46
tonyyarussothinkweird: No idea02:46
Stix09and then it keeps on repeating this and another error over and over02:46
Boelckebimberi, I'm trying to write a script that does some things with each line of the file.  So, it seems like I'd want to get a line, then go execute other commands, and then get the next line.02:46
thinkweirdtonyyarusso, you like your screen?02:46
supermiguelconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH02:46
tonyyarussothinkweird: Yeah.02:46
supermiguelthere is any way to fiz that02:46
supermiguelfix*02:46
grouchytimStix09:  did you check the volume before the install?02:46
thinkweirdtonyyarusso, did you watch some movies on it? how is it like?02:46
tonyyarussothinkweird: I also like having the dual tracking devices.02:46
Stix09im not trying to install anything im just trying to boot the live cd02:46
supermiguelconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH02:46
Flannelthinkweird: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Video_Standards.PNG  decide for yourself ;)02:46
grouchytimcheck the cd     it probably won't pass check sum02:47
thinkweirdtonyyarusso, the reason I ask is that mine is 15" uxga and the font is a bit small.02:47
tonyyarussothinkweird: Yeah, I've watched some, worked fine.  It's no big screen plasma TV, but it's fully functional for a group of college kids to watch something.02:47
Victorsssseveryone help me?02:47
Stix09it passed fine02:47
bimberiBoelcke: ah, i'd use Python for that02:47
Stix09and its the 3rd cd ive burned with the same problem02:47
grouchytimhmmm02:47
Lam_NetworkManager applet or KWifiManager?02:47
bimberiBoelcke: but a bash script would be possible too02:47
Stix09what is enterprise volume managment system and can i disable it while booting the live cd02:47
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thinkweirdFlannel, already got one. but think I just spent more since I can settle with 1024x76802:47
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Boelckebimberi, Ah.  I'm just working on figuring out how to use bash, and I've been thinking that I'd need to learn Python or Perl at some point.  I was hoping to get by on this task with just bash...02:48
simtowerur may be wrong thinkweird02:48
thinkweirdsimplydazed, why02:48
simtowerit might not be quite that simple... you tend to need more02:48
bimberiBoelcke: yes bash can do it, but i don't know how off the top of my head :)02:49
mdkanedaboelcke: can i send u my fstab so u can help me w/ my dilemma? if ur not too busy. seems like such a simple issue, but i'm pullin my hair out02:49
simtoweru know?02:49
thinkweirdsimtower, you mean more screen resolution? or I am too paranoid with my laptop?02:49
thinkweirdtonyyarusso, what is  your previous laptop?02:49
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simtoweryes thinkweird more resolution02:49
simtoweri have 1024x768 but its not enough02:49
BoelckeAll, is there a simple place mdkaneda can paste fstab?  I thought there was a site for that...02:49
krazykitBoelcke: if you want to edit text on each line, maybe check out sed02:49
Flannel!paste02:49
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:49
Stix09i also get the error "[17179670.82000]  ata1: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/40 to SCSI sk/ASC/ASCQ 0x3/11/04" that also repeats and some of the numbers change, anyone know how to fix this02:50
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thinkweirdsimtower, have you got glx working? I think it is really cool.02:50
thinkweirdtonyyarusso, you have glx working?02:50
simtoweryou mean compiz/xgl?02:50
twopoint0_when i try to change the theme, it tells me that it needs tar.gz, however, when i give it the theme i want to apply, it tells me the file format is not valid02:50
Stix09or can i simply disable EVMS from starting in the live cd with a boot option?02:50
thinkweirdsimtower, yes02:50
mdkanedaBoelcke: i've got webspace. hold on. lol02:50
Boelckekrazykit, I've been checking out sed and awk.  I figured out an awk command to do the interesting/complicated part, and now I'm struggling with the simple part!02:50
supermigueldoes02:50
simtoweryes it works on my laptop but i keep it turned off02:50
tonyyarussothinkweird: A Compaq from 1996 and a Toshiba Satellite from 1993/4.02:50
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supermiguelany one know how to work with gproftpd02:51
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tonyyarussothinkweird: Haven't tried any of the fancy stuff yet, but soon.02:51
thinkweirdtonyyarusso, and know you are in college. how lucky you are to be able to have two laptops boefore enter university.02:51
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Boelckemdkaneda, you can also go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/02:51
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zkorpiohi everybody02:52
tonyyarussothinkweird: Those ones were the hand-me-downs from my parents when they bought new ones ;)02:52
thinkweirdsimtower, why?02:52
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thinkweirdsimtower, it is so cool02:52
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simtowerit seem like a little too much performance hit for everyday use02:52
zkorpioanyone knows if ubuntu has a lot of programs for 64bits?02:52
twopoint0_why does it tell me the theme i want to load is an invalid file format if it's in tar.gz format02:52
simtoweri only have 1.6ghz02:52
thinkweirdtonyyarusso, I see.02:52
simtowerand a crappy radeon02:52
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thinkweirdsimtower, radeon what?02:52
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thinkweirdsimtower, which series?02:52
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thinkweirdprofoX`, you were xMorphix?02:53
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writingdeskzkorpio: Yeah, but no flash, and no wine ( unless chroot in 32 bit)02:53
simtowerradeon 9000 mobility02:53
simtowerit also get very hot when xgl is on02:53
Stix09anybody know how to boot the live cd if EVMS give you a translated ATA error while loading?02:53
mickwhich program would you reccomend for torrents? i tried azureas, but it hogs cpu like crazy02:53
thinkweirdsimtower, which brand you have , I mean your laptop02:53
simtoweri put some better cooling putty on it but didn't help much02:53
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simtoweribm thinkpad02:54
simtowerr5102:54
thinkweirdsimtower, so strange. so many linuxers use thinkpads.02:54
AlReece45I'm having trouble getting my sound to work.02:54
simtowerit is a very nice laptop... except for the screen which is pretty crappy02:54
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zkorpiowritingdesk: do you know if there is any distro with fully support 64 bits (non chroot32)02:54
thinkweirdsimtower, and developed such a brand loyalty to it. even though it has many problems02:54
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thinkweirdsimtower, why crappy? dark?02:55
krazykitzkorpio: they're all the same in that regard.02:55
thinkweirdsimtower, define nice?02:55
simtowerno, it is bright, but there is a huge gamma shift when you change the vertical viewing angle by only 10 degrees02:55
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simtowerso, a solid black screen looks more like a sublte gradient02:55
simtowerit is very annoying02:55
zkorpiokrazykit i try centos but i can not get running monodevelop and another02:55
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mdkanedahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24841     -- there's my fstab (think thats the link) anyways, if someone could tell me whats wrong w/ this. its not loading my root from hdb2, its looking at hda2 for some reason02:56
thinkweirdsimtower, so it is gamma. you mean contrast is not so good.02:56
krazykitzkorpio: it doesn't matter what you run.  all the distros have the same 64-bit support02:56
thinkweirdsimtower, why do you need to change gamma? for view angles?02:56
simtowerno, contrast is fine it is just variable depending on the vertical angle of the display02:56
robert_how do I build debian packages from source?02:56
simtowerif you tilt it up or down the gamma changes dramatically02:56
thinkweirdsimtower, ok. I see.02:56
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hesperuswhy is that? -> tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)02:56
zkorpiokrazykit: i am thinking to try ubuntu or kubuntu but i am not sure if there are problems with 64bits02:57
thinkweirdsimtower, why not just tip the screen?02:57
samuelis there an xwinwrap equivalent for aiglx?02:57
simtowerall lcd screens have that problem but this one is pretty bad02:57
hesperusthe closed modules get lost on reboot! why tmpfs?02:57
krazykitzkorpio: like i said, you'll see the same 64-bit issues across all distros.02:57
thinkweirdsimtower, why not tip the screen instead?02:57
thinkweirdsimtower, is glx hard to implement?02:57
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thinkweirdsimtower, your cards are supported but I don't think mine is supported.02:57
simtowerit doesn't matter how you tip the screen, it is still different between the top and the bottom02:57
simtowerthe top is always lighter than the bottom02:58
simtowereven if they are the same color02:58
Lam_anyone else have a broadcom card and notice that the NetworkManager doesn't show strength indicators for networks nearby?02:58
thinkweirdsimtower, I see. I have a flexview and there should ben a problem.02:58
krazykitLam_: known bug.  the broadcom drivers are still under heavy development02:58
kyjaI have 2 usb sticks that are plugged in all the time and dont always mount on startup. I have to mount manualy with sudo. what is up with that?02:58
simtowerkyja, edit your fstab02:58
kyjaok02:59
mdkanedaBoelcke: did u take a look at my fstab yet?02:59
Lam_krazykit: ok good. just checking02:59
simtowersometime the automounter not work so good02:59
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BoelckeAh, I found my (how to print a line in bash) solution.  sed '52q;d' file.txt02:59
kyja!fstab02:59
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions02:59
thinkweirdsimtower, on thinkpad?02:59
hesperuscan someone enlighten me why the closed modules get installed on tmpfs (ram)??02:59
simtowerthinkweird, huh?02:59
NrbelexWhere can I find support for the VNC in Ubuntu?02:59
thinkweirdsimtower, automount...02:59
thinkweirdsimtower, I see . another person.02:59
simtoweryes kyja had problem with usb sticks03:00
variantanyone know what package xfce-bglist-editor is part of?03:00
supermigueldoes any one know how to make an ftp server?03:00
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hesperusthis is mind boggling!03:00
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simtowersupermiguel, you can run a ftp server on ubuntu03:00
variantsupermiguel: apt-get install gproftp03:00
Nrbelexanyone - VNC?03:00
variantsupermiguel: its easy03:00
somethingelsehi03:00
hesperusanyone ???03:01
supermiguelgproftpd?03:01
variantsupermiguel: apt-get install gproftpd03:01
variantsupermiguel: yeah03:01
simtowerhesperus, ?03:01
Boelckemdkaneda, what message, exactly, are you getting about it looking for root on hda2?03:01
hesperus<hesperus> can someone enlighten me why the closed modules get installed on tmpfs (ram)??03:01
supermigueli dont know how to use it :(03:01
somethingelseis it possible to change an ethernet device name?  for example: eth4 to eth0 ?03:01
tonyyarussoNrbelex: You mean just to enable it?03:01
variantsupermiguel: then run it.. its quite obvious how to set up03:01
hesperus<hesperus> why is that? -> tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)03:01
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hesperusthus i lose my modules on reboot!03:01
BoelckeSince you don't even HAVE an hda2 in your fstab, I can see why you're frustrated!03:01
supermiguelwhen i click on online it doesnt start :(03:01
variantsupermiguel: you sure abou thtat?03:02
supermiguelyep03:02
tonyyarussoNrbelex: System > Preferences > Remote Desktop03:02
variantsupermiguel: run /etc/init.d/proftpd start03:02
hesperussimplydazed: why is that?03:02
mdkanedaBoelcke: it sits at mounting root file system, then says "waiting for root file system" if i let it sit long enough it will throw me to a bash prompt and it says something about there there being no hda203:02
supermigueli mean do i have to configure the server03:02
Nrbelextonyyarusso, no, I get either the message "Error while waiting for server message" or "ReadExact: Socket error while reading" 20 seconds after I get on every single time03:02
hesperussimtower*03:02
ztgubuntu-server keeps locking up any ideas?03:02
variantsupermiguel: yeah, its fairly simple point and click interface03:02
NrbelexIt's the most aggravating thing ever03:02
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simtowerhello hesperus, i am not sure, maybe you can change it to an on disk location03:02
variantsupermiguel: add a user, make it aware of a directory to be shared out on ftp03:02
tonyyarussoNrbelex: Ah, okay.  Sorry, I'm only good with VNC when it works it seems.03:02
variantsupermiguel: and start it03:02
edward_can someone help me install an ATI card?03:03
wantedHow can i devide/duplicate server x in two displays???03:03
supermiguelvariant do you have msn or something that you can help me with it03:03
Boelckemdkaneda, and you're sure you've got your home in hdb2?  Is there an hda2?03:03
NrbelexDoes anybody know a good thread for VNC help?03:03
krazykitztg: no, not without more information than "it's broke"03:03
mdkanedaBoelcke: see, it used to be hda2, moved my drive to hdb2 and put a new HD in HDA1 and put windows on it. i got grub loaded in HDA's MBR no problem, it loads windows and loads ubuntu, but now ubuntu wont mount my filesystem03:03
hesperussimtower: apparently i can, the modules get stored in ram! this is non-sense03:03
edward_the driver is  insallled but when I type lsmod | grep fglrx in the teminalw i get nothing back03:03
variantsupermiguel: sorry, i am at work and dont really have time03:03
hesperusi cant03:03
tonyyarussowanted: Could you rephrase that?  I'm not sure we understand what you mean.03:03
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variantsupermiguel: if you wanna make a donation to me with paypal i can help you. or even do it for you :)03:03
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simtowercomon this no #help4hire03:04
bimberimdkaneda: you also need to check the lines in /boot/grub/menu.lst which will also be referring to hda (as 'hda' and as 'hd0')03:04
zoredachemdkaneda: is the root filesystem argument in your menu.lst correct?03:04
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mdkanedabimberi: grub is fine, it loads ubuntu, gets stuck where it loads up03:04
ztgkrazykit, the box locks up, i've run memtest86+ and it came back without errors, nothing obvious in syslog03:04
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bimberimdkaneda: so you have checked that file? hmm03:05
mdkanedazoredache: yes as far as i know its correct. i changed all the hd0's to hd1's and added a windows entry to hd0...03:05
krazykitztg: dunno then.03:05
lostboyzhi how do i delete unecessary package libs from my system?03:05
bimberimdkaneda: ah, nvm :)03:05
lostboyzand how do i check to see if packages are confliciting with each other?03:05
supermiguelmiguel-desktop - fatal: Socket operation on non-socket03:06
supermiguelmiguel-desktop - (Running from command line? Use `ServerType standalone' in config file!)03:06
zoredachelostboyz: debfoster is nice03:06
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simtowermiguel03:06
hesperusis anyone using nvidia.ko + restricted modules?03:06
supermigueli get that error when i try to start it03:06
chronoAZwhats the best way of getting grub back after installing windows?03:06
lostboyzok thank you03:06
lostboyzzoredache03:06
twopoint0_can someone tell me why i am being told 'incorrect file format' when i try to load a them03:07
alex222any do i get the latest version of gnome baker (0.6)03:07
alex222The SPM only shows 0.503:07
mdkanedaChronoAZ: Super Grub Disc (if u have a cd burner)03:07
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krazykitchronoAZ: load the liveCD, chroot into your system and run grub-install03:07
variantsupermiguel: sorry mate, would like to help you but i really dont have time :( good luck with it03:07
mdkanedasuper grub disc is easier =) heh03:07
Boelckemdkaneda, this is going to sound stupid, but, uh, I don't have a /boot in my fstab.03:07
chalcedonyDarkMageZ: how to tell if the flashplugin-nonfree package installed correctly?03:07
lostboyzare there any others besides debfoster?03:07
chalcedonyor anyone?03:07
ztgis there anyway to determin if a system lockup is hardware or software based?03:07
Xenguylostboyz: deborphan03:08
mdkanedaBoelcke: i made a seperate /boot partition to mount to /boot, figured that'd be safer03:08
supermiguelnow when i try to access to my web page it says that is no available for me03:08
wantedtonyyarusso: I have one server and one client,i have set ssh server on server and i have set Xforwarding on client but i want visualize the desktop on client and on server....03:08
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zoredachelostboyz: debfoster is just basically a program that will ask you a few questions and then run dpkg/apt to remove things...03:08
lostboyzoh i see03:08
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abkhey guys, SSH issue here03:08
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abkI can ssh into my own machine remotely A-OK03:08
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killownhey linux has games as windows?03:09
abk*sorry hit enter too soon03:09
wantedkillown: yes03:09
killownWanderer linux has age 3?03:09
wantedno no...03:09
Xenguywanted: maybe 'x11vnc' is of interest to you?  I'm not sure I understand your question though03:09
hesperusis anyone using nvidia.ko + restricted modules?03:09
wantedkillown: linux have a few games sa windows03:10
variantkillown: age of empires is made by microsoft03:10
chronoAZmdkaneda, what menu do i go to to reinstall grub on the mbr03:10
abkI can SSH into my own machine just fine. I made a new user account, though, and now he can't log in at all. I can't log in as him either. when we type ssh him@mydomain.com, it asks for the password but then gives a "Sorry, permission denied" error03:10
mdkanedawould there be any reason why ubuntu cares that i have a fstab_backup file that points to the wrong drives still?03:10
variantkillown: therefore there iwll never be a linux compatible versoin03:10
chronoAZmdkaneda, (using super grub disk)03:10
DarkMageZchalcedony, try and view a flash presentation with firefox :P03:10
zoredachecan he login at the console abk?03:10
chalcedonyDarkMageZ: ok ..03:10
grouchytimabk:  check caps lock03:11
Xenguyabk: can you log in as the new user locally?03:11
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twopoint0_so no one knows? o.O03:11
Xenguyabk: i.e. without ssh03:11
abkzoredache: no, just checked. there is no local login either03:11
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mdkanedaChronoAZ: theres an Advanced menu in there somewhere, or check the gnu/linux section. it'll "try" to automatically find everything and add it to the write place, or u can specify yourself (that latter seems to work better)03:11
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abkI can "sudo su Username" and use his account03:11
wantedXenguy x11vnc is ok but is impossible set the X to working in two display (example export DISPLAY=192.168.0.1:0 and example export DISPLAY 192.168.0.2:0)03:11
zoredachewell first you need to fix the local login... does he exist in the /etc/passwd file?03:11
Xenguyabk: try resetting the passwd perhaps03:12
mdkanedawrite=right.. u know what i mean. lol03:12
Xenguywanted: dunno then03:12
chronoAZmdkaneda, thanks03:12
mdkanedano prob =)03:13
wantedkillown: linux have americans army, rail road,a clone of sim city03:13
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chalcedonysigh DarkMageZ it dosen't work03:13
killownok03:13
simtowerwhat sim city is it call?03:13
simtowerwanted?03:13
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abkxenguy: I've tried deleting his acc and making a new user (same shortname) and also resetting his PW in the gui CP, do you mean something else?03:13
krazykitsimtower: lincity and lincity-ng03:13
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simtowerthx i will intsall it03:13
gbutlerDoes anyone know why fonts look so ugly in Epiphany on Edgy Eft?03:13
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wantedsimtower: Lincity03:13
wanted;)03:13
gbutlerAlso look as bad in Firefox.03:13
simtowerturn on your anti-alias maybe03:14
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krazykitgbutler: #ubuntu+103:14
DarkMageZchalcedony, ok applications > accessories > terminal. then type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" and tell me what it does 03:14
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alex222any do i get the latest version of gnome baker (0.6)03:14
alex222The SPM only shows 0.503:14
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chalcedonyDarkMageZ: ok ty :)03:14
Xenguyabk: no, just thought resetting the passwd was a good place to start; obviously if you can't log into an account locally as a user it's not going to work over ssh03:14
gbutlerFont rendering was great under Dapper with Epiphany and FF, now it looks horrible under Edgy. Is something missing?03:15
crimsunalex222: it will have to be backported to dapper. It only recently entered edgy.03:15
grouchytimis there a trick to making a local printer shared with windows computers on my lan?03:15
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simtowersure grouchytim03:15
eyequeuegbutler, wrong channel, #ubuntu+103:15
abkxenguy: of course. any ideas on why it wouldn't work?03:15
simtoweryou need to share it with samba03:15
Xenguyabk: for a different method, you could just try (as root): passwd username03:15
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Azunchanalioth is here?03:15
grouchytim<----samba stupid03:15
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Xenguyabk: typically a password is being typed incorrectly03:15
grouchytimfeel like helping?03:15
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gbutlerOK...thanks...03:16
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Xenguyabk: substitute the login name for 'username' of course03:16
abkxenguy: well, I just made a new user with different short name and three-character PW to make sure I was typing it all OK03:16
wols_gbutler: samba or cups. both can do it03:16
abkstill not able to log in locally.03:16
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Xenguyabk: that makes no sense tho - try changing the passwd on the command-line?03:17
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jUggERNAUt1980so i tried setting up my system as a NAT router last night but it didn't work, now i have to manually change my network settings every time i start up.  how can i go back and change my sys back to those original settings without reinstalling?03:17
Boelckemdkaneda, another silly question, but, are you able to mount this stuff manually from the command line?03:17
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braskohi, for some reason, when I take screen shots, they are blank03:18
simtowergrouchytim, i have never done it before actulaly but that is definitely theway03:18
Xenguyabk: or try using 'adduser' to create the new account ?03:18
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abkxenguy: well, the new user's shortname was "newuser". I did "sudo passwd newuser" and it said passwd: unknown user newuser03:18
grouchytimyeah i think that is how i did it a few years ago03:18
wols_jUggERNAUt1980: depends what the settings where and what you changed03:18
braskothis happens with both Applications->Accessories->Take Screenshot and with Gimp File->Acquire->Screenshot03:18
Boelckemdkaneda, another thing.  This is kinda basic, but I ended up using a script called diskmounter that makes fstab entries for anything it can find.  I wonder if you should delete (backup!) your current one, and start with that.  Simplify the problem first...03:18
abkxenguy: syntax would be "adduser newuser"?03:18
grouchytimbut that was mandrake03:18
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grouchytimand it was a long time ago03:18
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braskowhy is this?03:18
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wols_gbutler: if you windows are 2k and up, you can use cups. otherwise, samba it is03:19
jUggERNAUt1980wols_, this is the HowTo i used:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-91370.html03:19
abkxenguy: looks like it was an error in the GUI CP03:19
mdkanedaBoelcke: i deleted my backup, mounted my /boot partition in here just to check, and i found it!!!! it WAS in my /boot/grub/menu.lst!!!03:19
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abkxenguy: it's all working when I do "sudo adduser"03:19
mdkanedatheres a line that mentioned "root=/dev/hda2...."03:19
braskowell, anyone know why my screen shots are blank?03:19
abkxenguy: how do I delete users from command line03:19
mdkanedachanged all those to "hdB2" and i should be good now03:19
mdkanedai'm glad thats all it was, i was sweating for a while03:19
valehruHey guys, I have a dual head setup, however certain applications do not like this setup and prefer only one monitor.  Is there a GTK application that can disable the secondary monitor??03:19
mdkanedahehe03:19
Boelckemdkaneda, sweetness.03:20
Xenguyabk: deluser03:20
Xenguyabk: man deluser for some good options03:20
abkxenguy: thanks mucho03:20
abkworking now03:20
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Xenguyabk: yw03:20
wols_jUggERNAUt1980: and what is the problem now (btw: bad howto. only thing necessary is ipmasq and dnsmasq03:20
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wols_jUggERNAUt1980: ie. what setting is missing when you reboot?03:20
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darkanyelhi03:21
jUggERNAUt1980wols_, yeah, i figured that when it didn't work.03:21
jUggERNAUt1980well, it automatically enables eth0, and my wifi (ath0) won't resolve an ip adress.03:21
braskoso, no one here knows why the screen shot would be blank?03:21
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darkanyelDarkMageZ, i solved the button!03:21
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darkanyelDarkMageZ, :D03:21
chalcedonyDarkMageZ: it still doesn't work, won't bring up disney channel03:21
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DarkMageZdarkanyel, where did you find it?03:22
jUggERNAUt1980it isn't really that bad, i just don't want to have to disable the eth0 when i turn my box on all the time.03:22
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wols_jUggERNAUt1980: change your /etc/resolv.conf then03:22
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kupesoftIs there a command other than "diff" that shows the difference between two files?03:22
darkanyelDarkMageZ, google ^^03:22
mdkanedaBoelcke: i was using Mepis for a while, until i got fed up w/ KDE.. hehe.. anyways, i liked their auto-mounting program that was preinstalled.. forgot what it was called, but it was like what ur saying, it would create entries for you, no thinking involved.03:22
wols_jUggERNAUt1980: put in the proper nameserver03:22
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DarkMageZchalcedony, restart firefox and go "about:plugins" is flash listed?03:23
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DarkMageZdarkanyel, :P but what did you do exactly03:23
darkanyelDarkMageZ, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/control-center/+bug/426503:23
Boelckemdkaneda, yeah, I was struggling to get the wording right for some windows and network stuff, and the diskmounter utility did the trick.  It wasn't anything fancy, just a decent script someone had made.03:23
darkanyelDarkMageZ, is a bug03:23
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abkOK, one more question: how do I take away a user's sudo privileges03:23
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DarkMageZdarkanyel, ah and you used the workaround. nice. hopefully it will be fixed in future03:24
bomberohigen, where is  the trash on 6.06 ?  need to clean it03:24
d3v1ant0n3My xserver seems to be randomly dumping me back to the login screen...I have no idea why....How do I go about sorting out what the problem is?03:24
wols_abk: man sudoers03:24
krazykitabk: remove them from /etc/sudoers03:24
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eyequeueabk, sudo visudoers03:24
krazykitbombero: ~/.Trash03:24
darkanyelabk, just put exit03:24
wols_d3v1ant0n3: read the X server logs03:24
eyequeueabk, and remove then from the admin group03:24
d3v1ant0n3Where do I find them?03:24
d3v1ant0n3/etc/X11?03:25
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wols_ /var/log03:25
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d3v1ant0n3ty03:25
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david__I'm installing a windows game under wine, where is it going to put things that are suppose to go to c:\program files?03:25
variantanyone know a command line program that will set the desktop background but pass the mouse clicks through to the underlying program and not cover over desktop icons?03:25
darkanyelDarkMageZ, wll time to sleep, here is 3.25 am, thanks and bytes!!!03:25
eyequeueabk, don't edit /etc/sudoers without sudo visudoers of course03:25
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mdkanedaalright, well i'm gonna get outta this live cd and boot into linux. oooh, its gonna be so sexy. lol. hope it works this time, lol. thanks for everyone's help =)03:25
ztgis there anyway to determine if a system lockup is hardware or software based?03:25
abkI checked out /etc/sudoers, but it's just allowing root access to anyone in the admin group03:25
varianteyequeue: is the command not visudo ?03:25
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abkhow do I remove people from the admin group without using my (broken) GUI03:26
wols_abk: then remove the user from the admin group03:26
NrbelexAnybody know where to look to get advanced VNC support?03:26
eyequeuevariant, am i typoing again?  yeah03:26
variantztg: either can create log entries.. take a look and see what you can find03:26
wols_edit /etc/group03:26
ladydoorabk: sudo cp /etc/group /etc/group.bak ; sudo nano -w /etc/group03:26
variantztg: in /var/log/03:26
bomberokrazykit, ok, is posible to clean it under KDE ?03:26
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eyequeueabk, sudo nano /etc/group03:26
ladydoorabk: then manually remove the user from the group admin03:26
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bomberokrazykit, something like konqueror ?03:27
mdkanedaNrbelex: from what i know ubuntu uses RealVNC. www.realvnc.com is their official site.03:27
krazykitbombero: just type ~/.Trash in the location bar03:27
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abkhot, guys. thanks as always.03:27
variantmdkaneda: ubuntu uses tightvnc or any other free vnc package03:27
krazykitbombero: or open Konsole and do rm -fr ~/.Trash/*03:27
variantmdkaneda: realvnc is not free software03:27
supermiguelhello03:27
supermiguelany body know how to use proftpd03:28
jUggERNAUt1980what is the proper nameserver?03:28
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d3v1ant0n3Why would X be trying to add a wacom tablet at startup?03:28
chalcedonyDarkMageZ:  it says it's listed when i cd .mozilla/plugins and do ls03:28
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d3v1ant0n3I don't havea wacom tablet03:28
krazykitd3v1ant0n3: because it's part of the default xorg.conf03:28
boscobosco> i have a laptop and i sent it in to get fixed becz one of my keys was broken off and it didnt work then bt now that they pt my new key on it still doenst work any help as to how to fix it03:28
bosco<bosco> i rn E16 and E1703:28
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mdkanedavariant: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ vncviewer --help03:28
mdkanedaVNC viewer version 3.3.7 - built Feb 20 2006 12:04:0503:28
mdkanedaCopyright (C) 2002-2003 RealVNC Ltd.03:28
mdkanedaCopyright (C) 1994-2000 AT&T Laboratories Cambridge.03:28
mdkanedaSee http://www.realvnc.com for information on VNC.03:28
bosco<bosco> any body know what i cold d03:28
d3v1ant0n3Ah...Will it hurt to remove it?03:28
mdkanedaim on the live cd03:28
boscobosco> i have a laptop and i sent it in to get fixed becz one of my keys was broken off and it didnt work then bt now that they pt my new key on it still doenst work any help as to how to fix it03:28
Xenguy!paste > mdkaneda03:28
Nrbelexmdkaneda, unfortunately, the don't have much in the way of support - does anybody know anywhere else to look like an IRC channel?03:28
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ztgi've looked in syslog,dmesg, and pretty much every other log but nothing interesting03:29
variantmdkaneda: so, thats what you installed..03:29
krazykitd3v1ant0n3: only if you don't know what you're doing03:29
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mdkanedaim on the live cd, i didnt install anything. check for yourself03:29
bomberokrazykit, ok, thanx,03:29
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variantmdkaneda: maybe realvnc has a free dual licence or somthing..03:29
linux1The open source version of VNC has been freely available since 1998,03:29
d3v1ant0n3bosco...If you had it repaired, they said they fixed it and charged you, go shout03:29
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krazykitbosco: what key?03:30
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LeeJunFanwhat is one to use to work with ISA when there's no isapnp tools available?03:30
tomsasohi.03:30
tomsasoHow can i configue my Evolution Mail, to recive emails form Yahoo!, Gmail, and Hotmail??03:31
mdkanedawell, i'll be back when i get off this live cd03:31
DarkMageZchalcedony, but does it list flash when you open firefox and goto about:plugins ?03:31
^Ocean^tomsaso: with a Degree in computer enginearing ;)03:31
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variantmdkaneda: strange, realvnc seems to be very proprietry.. i cant imagine that ubuntu would include that on the live cd03:31
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boscokrazykit, it is my  u key i have to copy and paste everytime i need to03:32
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krazykitbosco: open a terminal and run xev.  put the mouse over the window that pops up and hit the u key.03:32
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wantedIs impossible set the X to working in two display (example export DISPLAY=192.168.0.1:0 and example export DISPLAY 192.168.0.2:0)??03:32
krazykitbosco: if there's no change in the terminal, the u key is still broken03:32
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newpZhi is there a simple (non-gimp) program for my wife to do simple cropping and remove redeye from pics before she prints them?03:33
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tomsasoWhats the problem with you guys??? Whenever i ask here for help i am knocked out!!!! Its not everything in programing, you are trying to make Linux a USER operating system!!! Anyway i can use windows and its much easier!!!03:33
lupine_85!patience03:34
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:34
merowingeris there a way to switch easily between my 2 soundcards in gnome 2.16?03:34
wabzhello, I have a reproducible FF crash that takes X with it, but before filing I want to make sure it's not just me - can someone who doesn't mind having X crash test this out? 1) go here: http://www.whatsbeef.net/wabz/ffcrash/crash.html 2) click launch calendar, 3) before clicking anything scroll the newly created window to the right. BAM03:34
lupine_85*plonk*03:34
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ladydoortomsaso: and shouting at us is totally going to help.03:34
MontanajaHi guys, I've been having a hell of a time trying to compile a new kernel under ubuntu03:34
the_guyanyone wanna suggest a good media player?03:34
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wols_Tokenbad: please go back to windows and never leave it again. please03:34
wols_the_guy: mplayer, xine, vlc. take your pick03:34
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the_guythanx03:34
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d3v1ant0n3the_guy I love amarok and rhythmbox....both are easy to set up an duse. Kaffeine, Mplayer and vlc are great for video03:35
MontanajaI'm gettng this udevplg problem after I compile a new kernel, thn it drpos to BusyBox03:35
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Montanajadoes anyone know what I may be doing wrong?03:35
krazykitMontanaja: what kernel version?03:35
Montanaja2.6.1803:35
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krazykitMontanaja: do you have an initrd?  well, i guess it's initcpio now...03:36
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Montanajayeah03:36
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MontanajaI use this command make-kpkg -initrd --revision=386 kernel_image kernel_headers modules_image03:36
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boscokrazykit, bt it worked till my key broke =off03:37
boscoi never set it to not work03:37
boscowith settingis03:37
boscoor anything03:37
krazykitMontanaja: strange.  that should work fine.  it did for me with 2.6.18-r603:37
krazykitbosco: i didn't ask that.  i asked if you were getting any output from xev03:37
MontanajaI've tried like 3 or 4 tutorials03:37
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wols_Montanaja: did you change anything in the config?03:37
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Montanajaoh yeah03:37
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Montanajashould I just copy the .config from a known working kernel?03:38
chalcedonyDarkMageZ I don't see about plugins, where to look?03:38
boscokrazykit, i am trying to pt it on a pastebin now03:38
wols_Montanaja: have you included the udev stuff in your kernel?03:39
MontanajaI don't believe so03:39
neomCan you install stuff when you are using a liveCD?03:39
krazykitbosco: i didn't need a pastebin.  did anything new come in the terminal when you hit the u key?03:39
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wols_neom: no03:40
alex222DOES ANYONE use gnome baker? im getting this when adding mp3s The plugin to handle a file of type audio/mpeg is not installed.03:40
Tokenbadwols_, why you tell me to go back to windows?03:41
krazykitbosco: anyway, if you could hold on for like 12 minutes, i need to walk back from work03:41
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krazykitTokenbad: he was talking to the wrong person.  bad tab completion03:41
wols_Tokenbad: cause the guy tomsaso already left and the nick complete misfired. sorry03:41
Tokenbadahhh ok03:41
eyequeue!mp3 > alex22203:41
TokenbadI was like I wasn't even talking03:41
Tokenbadheheh03:41
boscohttp://pastebin.com/79449303:42
DarkMageZchalcedony, type "about:plugins: in the address bar :P03:42
DarkMageZchalcedony, "about:plugins"* without the quotation :P03:42
jUggERNAUt1980Does anyone know of a website that tells step by step how to foward wireless internet to be available over the ethernet onboard to other computers? t03:42
boscokrazykit, http://pastebin.com/79449303:42
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boscokrazykit, let me know when yo get home03:43
bosco03:43
mluser-laptop!bluetooth03:44
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup03:44
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torchie!wireless03:45
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:45
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wantedIs impossible set the X to working in two display (example export DISPLAY=192.168.0.1:0 and example export DISPLAY 192.168.0.2:0)??03:45
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raich_hey i was wondering what is a good book to start lisp with?, keep in mind i hhave a little expericence with C / c++03:46
raich_someone?03:46
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Dr_williswhat do ya mean by display? 2 monitors showing the same X desktop>03:46
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supermiguelhow do i shut down and up my ssh server03:46
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raich_...omg sorry, the freaking programe changed the chanel03:47
Dr_willis- sudo /etc/init.d/servicename start (or stop)03:47
kupesoftWhat are the units of the command "du"?  Are they blocks?03:47
supermiguelin this case the service name is? ssh-server?03:47
m5mAnyone know where to find desktop launcher configuration file?  I think it's .desktop files03:47
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Dr_williskupesoft,  du -h shows more human readable format.03:47
kupesoftDr_willis: What are the default units, though,03:48
lupine_85du -hs is even better :)03:48
eyequeuesupermiguel, sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart03:48
lupine_851024byte blocks03:48
Dr_willism5m,  locate  .desktop   shows a lot of them. :P03:48
ladydoorraich_: elisp or straight lisp?03:48
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kupesoftSomeone please, what are the default units of "du"?03:49
Crescendo_It appears as if some of my GNOME applications don't have the correct theme.  Would this have something to do with running a gksudo...?03:50
eyequeueman du doesn't say?03:50
kupesoftman du doesn't say.03:50
lupine_851024 bytes03:50
Bordochgood evening - anyone have time for a Automatix script question?03:51
wantedDr_willis,i have 2 PC in lan, i start X in pc1 and connect pc1 to pc2 beetwen ssh and run X application in pc2 and see in pc1....but not see in pc2 because DISPLAY is set to pc2, i can see the Xapplicatin in pc1 and pc2 ?03:51
^Ocean^Crescendo: No, could be running apps that are non GTK  like for example  xmms03:51
^Ocean^or Java03:51
^Ocean^or KDE03:51
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wantedEDIT.........Dr_willis,i have 2 PC in lan, i start X in pc1 and connect pc1 to pc2 beetwen ssh and run X application in pc2 and see in pc1....but not see in pc2 because DISPLAY is set to pc1, i can see the Xapplicatin in pc1 and pc2 ?03:52
Dr_williswanted,  not sure if its possible to easially have an app displayed on both desktops.. VNC can be handy for a similer task.03:52
krazykitbosco: lemme just let pastebin load up03:52
Crescendo_^Ocean^, I'm running the synaptic package manager.03:52
Unix_n_Coffeeanybody know if you could mount dvd/cd iso's in ubuntu? :)03:52
Crescendo_That's one of them.03:52
krazykitUnix_n_Coffee: you can.03:52
Unix_n_CoffeeKrazykit how?03:52
Unix_n_Coffeeapt-get what?03:52
Unix_n_Coffee:)03:52
eyequeue!dvd > Unix_n_Coffee03:52
chanwomanI am a newbie, trying to install vmware tools is driving me mad, I have got vmware-tools-distrib sitting on my desktop, I did a ls from my root directory, can see the desktop but when I cd /desktop, it would accept the command.  Someone please put me out of my misery.03:52
Dr_williswanted,  could have a 'shared' vnc desktop running i guess. and just use vncviewer on both.03:52
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^Ocean^wanted, You could see them in both apps if u use VNC  but then pc1 could just "Take controle" of PC2  as for a way to see the app on both displays simaltaniously i dont think you can03:53
Unix_n_Coffeeeyequeue whats that?03:53
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Unix_n_Coffeesudo apt-get !dvd03:53
Unix_n_Coffee?03:53
lakinHrmm, I'm trying to install opera via the add/remove applications, and it just gets into an endless loop of trying to enable the dapper-commercial repository, then it updates, then tries to enable again,03:53
Unix_n_Coffeesomeone help me out? :|03:54
`m0anyone running cisco vpn ?03:54
krazykitUnix_n_Coffee: it should've sent you a pm03:54
`m0or ran it before?03:54
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eyequeueUnix_n_Coffee, the bot told you into03:54
boscokrazykit, ok that is whta i got as far as the03:54
eyequeueUnix_n_Coffee, info03:54
boscokrazykit, ok that is whta i got as far as the03:54
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krazykitbosco: wait, it's loaded, don't paste here03:54
`m0How do you guys usually run cisco vpn? Do you keep the cisco vpn terminal open?03:54
Unix_n_Coffeebot didnt tell me anything.....03:54
Half-Leftdaaaaamn03:54
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wantedDr_willis , ^Ocean^:   with vnc is possible working simultaneously in pc1 and pc203:55
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wanted?03:55
Unix_n_Coffeesomeone have the bot link?03:55
BordochDoes anyone have any idea why the Java run time environment does not install with the Automatix script the second time. It installed correctly when I first ran the script - but reinstalled Ubunto and since that first installation, has not installed since? l03:55
^Ocean^wanted, Yes03:55
Unix_n_Coffeei didnt get it sent to me03:55
Unix_n_Coffee:|03:55
Dr_williswanted,  yes.. of 1000 pc's :P03:55
krazykitbosco: yeah, it looks broken still.03:55
eyequeue!dvd > Unix_n_Coffee03:55
wanted:P03:55
Dr_willisor 10000 pc's lol03:55
^Ocean^wanted, but you will get a window so you can see the whole OS enviroment03:55
Unix_n_Coffeeohh i se it03:55
^Ocean^not exporting display03:55
Unix_n_Coffeeits in this room03:55
Unix_n_Coffee:)03:55
eyequeueUnix_n_Coffee, you get nothing from ubotu ?03:55
Dr_willisvnc is a handy tool to learn the ins and outs of.03:55
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Unix_n_Coffeegot it its pasted into this room03:56
FlannelBordoch: automatix is broken, that's why.03:56
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Unix_n_Coffeethis is not exactly what i wanted03:56
supermiguelthere is any web base ssh tool03:56
Unix_n_Coffeei wanted to mount a dvd linux game03:56
Unix_n_Coffeefull iso03:56
Unix_n_Coffee:|03:56
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krazykitUnix_n_Coffee: mount -t auto -o loop /path/to/the.iso /mount/point03:56
Bordochin what way - as in the script as gotten from the website or something on my ubunto installation?03:56
FlannelUnix_n_Coffee: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint03:56
Unix_n_Coffeei want to mount iso instead of burning them03:56
wantedDr_willis , ^Ocean^:   tanks03:57
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Lam_how do i  change my default keyring password?03:57
FlannelBordoch: automatix breaks things.  Your best bet is to reinstall a second time, to get it all off your system, and whatever damage it may have caused, and then follow these instructions to install java:03:57
krazykitsupermiguel: no.03:57
Flannel!java03:57
Unix_n_Coffeewho do i believe?03:57
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository03:57
Unix_n_Coffee...03:57
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Lam_!keyring03:57
Unix_n_CoffeeUnix_n_Coffee: mount -t auto -o loop /path/to/the.iso /mount/point03:57
Unix_n_Coffee<Bordoch> in what way - as in the script as gotten from the website or something on my ubunto installation?03:57
Unix_n_Coffee<Unix_n_Coffee> i want to mount iso instead of burning them03:57
Unix_n_Coffee<Flannel> Unix_n_Coffee: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint03:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about keyring - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:57
david__what wine version should i download for ubuntu03:57
Flannel!tell Unix_n_Coffee about mount03:57
FlannelUnix_n_Coffee: and, don't paste.03:57
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krazykitUnix_n_Coffee: they're both the same, really.  -t is only the fs type, which mount sometimes complains about03:58
Unix_n_Coffeeits not partitioning03:58
eyequeuedavid__, none, apt-get it03:58
supermiguelkrazykit: which one do you use?03:58
eyequeue!info wine dapper03:58
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB03:58
Unix_n_Coffeei see thanks everyone!03:58
Unix_n_Coffee:)03:58
krazykitsupermiguel: i use ssh from a console.03:58
BordochI have installed Ubunto in oem mode twice following the very first installation - no luck on either of the second install03:58
krazykitsupermiguel: or putty in windows.03:58
FlannelBordoch: why oem mode? why not just normal mode?03:58
eyequeuedavid__, sudo apt-get wine, after enabling universe, if you want it03:58
Dr_willisi dont een know what oem/how it works or does. Lol.03:58
supermigueltry winscp03:59
Dr_willisI thought ya set up some oem file on the cd for it to work,03:59
Bordochwhat's the diffewrence - advice from the IT guy at work03:59
FlannelBordoch: and, just don't use automatix, the java in the repositories works fine03:59
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JavaDeveloperhi, I just installed apache2 and wonder where the httpd.conf, then I followed ubuntu guide and setup alias, but how do I setup file type there? I can't find info on apache site, any clue?03:59
FlannelBordoch: the oem mode is meant to be installed, then shipped to the end users to finalize configuration, normal install from the alternate CD installs a normal system03:59
FlannelBordoch: completely, that is.03:59
david__ihave version 0.09.17, ii wanted to download 0.9.2003:59
Lam_how do i change my default keyring password?04:00
Bordochgood to know04:00
FlannelJavaDeveloper: httpd.conf isn't used, there's apache2.conf, the module configurations, or the sites themselves, depending on what youre configuring04:00
eyequeuedavid__, subverting the package management system is not considered good practice, but it's your system04:00
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chanwomanI am a newbie, trying to install vmware tools on ubuntu is driving me mad, I have got vmware-tools-distrib sitting on my desktop, I did a ls from my root directory, can see the desktop but when I cd /desktop, it would accept the command.  Someone please put me out of my misery.04:00
FlannelJavaDeveloper: they're all at /etc/apache2/ and then the folders under that04:00
JavaDeveloperFlannel: ic ic....thank you very much04:00
Flannelchanwoman: Desktop not desktop, and no /04:00
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ColdFyremy machine no longer auto mounts devices such as my cell phone and camera. why is that?04:01
david__whats the latest version of wine availale?04:01
Flannelchanwoman: "cd Desktop" 'cd /Desktop' looks for a Desktop drive at the root of your file system, not your current directory04:01
eyequeue!info wine dapper04:01
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB04:01
load0614Hey all.  What controlls auto mounting in breezy?  I have a USB memory stick that KDE sees and asks what to do as soon as I plug it in on my dapper machine but my breezy machine is a server install without KDE so I need it to just mount as soon as the kernel sees that it's been plugged in.04:01
wabzg'day, i'd like some help filing a bug, but I don't know whether to file it against firefox or X (I have a page that when visited in FF, crashes X)04:01
eyequeuedavid__, ^^04:01
Bordochdo you need to order the alternate CD for the Normal install or does the downloaded iso have that option?04:01
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writingdeskwabz:  what kernel?04:02
krazykitwabz: ooh, what page?04:02
david__thanks, ill go check it out04:02
eyequeueBordoch, you d/l the one you want, shipit only sends the live cd04:02
FlannelBordoch: the Desktop ISO will also install, correct.  They're the same result installation once everything is done04:02
writingdeskwabz:  and was the page a java site?04:02
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wabzwritingdesk: 2.6.15-26-686 krazykit: http://www.whatsbeef.net/wabz/ffcrash/crash.html (click launch calendar, start scrolling to the right, before clicking anything else)04:03
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Bordochthanks - this is very helpful04:03
wabzwritingdesk: no04:03
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SquatchQuick question.  What package do I need to install to play .wmv files?04:03
Flannel!tell Squatch about wmv04:04
lupine_85!plf04:04
ubotuplf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc04:04
eyequeue!restrictedformats > Squatch04:04
wabz(default ubuntu firefox, i've reproduced it on two fully updated dapper machines)04:04
krazykitwabz: i must be doing it wrong04:04
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wabzkrazykit: does a popup window come up with a bunch of html source showing?04:04
eyequeuelupine_85, plf allegedly ran out of steam and fizzled out04:04
krazykityeah wabz04:04
Flannelwabz: then file a bug on launchpad whereever you think it should go, if it happens to be in the wrong place, they'll move it04:04
lupine_85packages are still there though04:05
lupine_85or were last time I checked04:05
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krazykitseveas' repo has all the multimedia stuff, too04:05
krazykit!seveas04:05
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages04:05
yokobrhi04:05
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wabzkrazykit: if i just click the horizontal scroll thing, start dragging it to the right, X crashes04:05
wabzFlannel: thanks04:05
SquatchCool, thanks guys.04:05
dennis_what would the general consensus agree apon is the best linux friendly mini pci nic card ??04:05
yokobrplease, how can i deal with rar archives?04:05
Dr_willis!rar04:05
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free04:05
Dr_willisyokobr,  install the rar tools :)04:06
THX-1138!seveas is also Thank You!04:06
Flanneldennis_: probably an intel one04:06
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writingdeskwabz:  I'm pretty sure it has to do with the kernel and gnu java04:07
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Flanneldennis_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported04:07
dennis_well I'm using an ipw2200, what I am after is something that is natively supported with WPA support04:07
AscCan I move an install to a seperate HDD just by copying everything (sudo cp -R /*) from one to the other, then installing grub on the new disk?  The new disk will be used in the same machine.04:07
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wabzwritingdesk: this page doesn't have any java applets or anything on it?04:08
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writingdeskwabz: possibly just the kernel04:08
THX-1138Asc - not sure how you might preserve permissions and symlinks. - i am cery\tai it can be done.04:08
THX-1138*certain*04:09
writingdeskwabz: I've refrained from updating my fresh install of Ubuntu and have not had any problems04:09
writingdeskwabz:  I think it is in the 2.6.15-27 kernel04:09
lupine_85Asc: cp -a04:09
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wabzhappens with at least -26 too04:09
wols_Asc: use dd04:09
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lupine_85alternatively tar everything04:09
lupine_85that's probably your best bet04:09
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AscTHX, lupin, wols: Thanks.04:10
wickedpuppywhy not fresh install and just cope out home and etc ??04:10
yokobrwhat is rar tools?04:10
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xt_sally04:10
wickedpuppy!rar04:10
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free04:10
yokobrwhere can i find them?04:10
lupine_85yuck, rar04:10
Ascwicked: because downloading everything would take days on my 1337 56K connection04:10
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lupine_85!unrar04:10
ubotuunrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free04:10
yokobr:(04:10
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wickedpuppyAsc, i assume you have the cd ? or else how did you install the current one ?04:11
yokobri want to know about rar tools04:11
lupine_85install rar and unrar; then ark or file-roller will handle them04:11
asiatic!Could not grab your mouse.04:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Could not grab your mouse. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:11
asiaticA malicious client may be eavesdropping04:11
asiaticon your session.04:11
wickedpuppyyokobr, pls read the ubotu message04:11
writingdeskwabz:  Check the exact kernel version, because if that's it, I've reported the bug, just confirm on mine.  Also are you on amd64 by any chance?04:11
asiatic?Could not grab your mouse.04:11
asiaticA malicious client may be eavesdropping04:11
asiaticon your session.04:11
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Ascwicked: yes, I do.  I just want to avoid a reinstall if possible; I've been using this one for months and everything it set up perfectly04:11
Asc*is04:12
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wabzwritingdesk: no, x86. Can easily reproduce this on both 2.6.15-27-686 and 2.6.15-26-68604:12
kjmasiatic - is this an error message you are getting?  Please be more specific.04:12
wabzwritingdesk: what's your bug#?04:12
asiaticyeah04:12
asiaticit is04:12
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asiaticbut i dont know what to do04:12
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writingdeskok, I have 2.6.15-25 installed and have not had the bug occur.04:12
sicarusI've spent far too long tyring to get my orinoco wireless card working in linux only to find that it just plain doesn't work with wpa04:12
wickedpuppyAsc, okie dokie then ... btw may i recommend having /etc and /home in different partitions ? that helps me a lot ... thats my opinion :P04:12
writingdeskbut when updated to 2.6.15-27 I had the problem04:13
andrcppalgun usuario de Ubuntu  que hable espaol ????04:13
writingdeskwabz:  stand by for bug number04:13
sicaruslooking for suggestions of a 802.11g, preferably pcmcia, WPA supported of course04:13
wickedpuppy!es04:13
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:13
THX-1138!es04:13
kjmwickedpuppy : For sure, sure makes fresh installs easier04:13
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skaddid lilo die?04:14
wickedpuppyyah .. i just install the / partition and mount /etc and /home04:14
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xt_sally?04:14
Ascwicked: I'll actively contemplate it04:14
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sicarusAnyone with a working 802.11g WPA wireless card working?04:15
wols_skad: yey he did. accident with his bike04:15
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wols_sicarus: wpa_supplicant not workiing?04:15
Flannel!tell sicarus about wpa04:15
sicarusno wols_04:15
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writingdeskwabz: Bug #6217204:15
skaddamn04:15
sicaruslooking for suggestions of a card to buy which is very easy to get working04:16
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sicarusspent far too long trying to get this card going04:16
kjmasiatic : see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-38592.html04:16
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paiedwols_, it looks sort of like a hostap driver thing with the ubuntu kernel04:16
THX-1138ralink worked for me04:16
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marshallhey guys04:16
paiedwpa_supp quite frankly says "wpa not s upported with this driver"04:16
marshalldoesn anybody know if we're getting GNOME 2.16 on Dapper?04:16
lupine_85there you go then :)04:17
kjmmarshall - yes I know - we Dapper is using 2.1404:17
asiaticthank u!04:17
lupine_85get a card which supports wpa04:17
paiedso generally looking for a better card with a better chipset04:17
marshallkjm: yeah, 2.16 looks secksi04:17
kjm2.16 will be edgy.  May get backported, but nor sure.04:17
dennis_I'm using an ipw2200 with WPA04:17
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paiedis that a prism chipset?04:17
Flannelmarshall: you'll have to wait for edgy then.  It won't be backported04:17
kjmI am looking forward to 2.16 - although I'm addicted to Xfce on my older machine.04:17
sicaruslooking for something which is pretty much plug and play, with minimalish tweaking04:18
marshallFlannel: damnit. do oyu know when edgy is supposed to drop?04:18
kjmLooking forward to seeing if some of the optimizations will help.04:18
eyequeue!schedule > marshall04:18
dennis_paied hmm let me check04:18
Flannelmarshall: beta is out this weekend, I believe.  final release will be late October, 28th I believe.04:18
kjmmarshall - you could always try Garnome if you have the testicular fortitude.04:18
marshallFlannel: ok thanks04:19
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kjmmarshall - I have edgy knot 3 installed on my machine at work - and it is getting there:)04:19
marshallkjm: lol my right testicles name is Fortitude04:19
marshallkjm: whats garnome?04:19
kjmheh, - mines named Holly.  But whatever floats your boat :)04:19
marshalllol04:19
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kjmgarnome is a method to "aid" in building the  latest Gnome from source.  But, it is a highly painful and taxing activity.04:20
AscHow does one fsck the root partition on boot?04:20
lupine_85there's a flag you can pass to shutdown or reboot that tells it to force check on reboot04:21
kjmmarshall : see http://www.gnome.org/projects/garnome/04:21
lupine_85man shutdown or man reboot to find it04:21
THX-1138sudo shutdown - -r now   ??04:21
Asclupine: got it, thanks04:21
THX-1138sudo shutdown -f -r now   ??04:21
lupine_85dunno04:22
bimberi-F  (-f is skip the check)04:22
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FlannelTHX-1138: man shutdown says -F04:22
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marshallkjm: thanks04:22
jUggERNAUt1980Hey, everyone!. What do you type in terminal to be in root, and enter commands but not in sudo?04:22
paiedsudo04:22
paiedpasswd04:22
kjmjUggERNAUt1980 : try sudo -i04:22
paiedexit04:22
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paiedsu04:22
paied:p04:22
THX-1138World of Warcraft question what can be done to improve the way fonts are rendered? (flannel - Thank You.)04:22
kjmpaied : you coulda written that in 1 line................04:23
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neomWell, Edgy Eft intel liveCD does not run on my macbook.04:23
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sicarusyou've actually got WoW working in linux THX-1138 ?04:23
Gishnobhey04:23
paiedit runs fine with wine.04:23
sicaruswow04:23
kjmWill edgy support PPC?04:24
Flannelsicarus: check the forums, there are plenty of threads about it.  THX-1138, you too.  I'd check there.04:24
Flannelkjm: yes, dapper does.04:24
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lupine_85yep04:24
lupine_85already does, in fact04:24
eyequeuekjm, #ubuntu+1 for edgy04:24
twopoint0why when i ./config it tells me there is no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH04:24
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THX-1138sicarus - Yes using cedega and the 10 trail version anyway. - not too sure (if anything) will change with the retail version.04:24
sicarusnice =)04:24
Flanneltwopoint0: have you installed build-essential yet?04:24
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twopoint0this is my first 24 hours on linux04:25
THX-1138sicarus - Use the settings from cddb and refreshing the display with a resolution change helps a bit.04:25
Flannel!tell twopoint0 about compile04:25
crogue5sicarus, i have WoW working in linux, works better than in windows it seems04:25
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Flanneltwopoint0: that guide will help you compiling stuff04:25
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twopoint0Flannel: thanks04:26
THX-1138I seem to recall a command to force a refresh of the display.  - bf ??04:26
crogue5THX-1138, nothing will change, you have the full game installed with the 10 day trial... you jsut update the account and login like you are doing now04:26
wabzwritingdesk: looks to me like it's an nvidia bug (it's this bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/46034 )04:27
twopoint0Flannel: one other thing, when i try to change my theme, it tells me i need them in tar.gz format, but when i try to install a theme in tar.gz it tells me incorrect format, i can't find anything on it04:27
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Flanneltwopoint0: no idea.  gnome themes for ubuntu are exactly like gnome themes for ... gnome.  so, you won't need to find any ubuntu specific info.  I don't use gnome though, so I have no idea, sorry.04:27
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THX-1138crogue - That only leaves me wondering why they sell the WoW trial disk for $2 and the retail box for $4004:27
twopoint0ok, thanks04:28
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mon^rchwhen's the next release of ubuntu due... and what's it gonna be called?04:28
kjm!schedule04:28
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule04:28
crogue5THX-1138, you will have to pay the $40 when you go retail on your account04:29
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crogue5THX-1138, a friend jsut did it a month ago, so you get your first month free when the retail purchase like if you would have bought the game from the store... no different on the net04:29
crogue5i gtg04:30
NrbelexIs anybody here really good with VNC? Is there anywhere specific I should look for support?04:30
THX-1138Okay. - It has been fun. (my wife may have a different idea though. - lol)04:30
variantNrbelex: you have been asking this for hours04:30
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A-L-P-H-AHow do I force ubuntu to recognize a usb CDROM, so I can burn a CD?  I turned the USB cdrom after linux started.04:30
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variantNrbelex: what is your specific problem?04:30
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Nrbelexvariant, this is, unfortunately, true04:30
variantA-L-P-H-A: does it show up in dmesg ?04:31
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mon^rchty kjm04:31
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variantA-L-P-H-A: unplug it, run dmesg, plug it in, run dmesg again04:31
Nrbelexvariant, after 20 seconds I routinely get signed off04:31
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A-L-P-H-Avariant: yeah. it does... "new highspeed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7".04:31
Nrbelexvariant, with a different error message depending on the viewer I use - but I always get signed off04:31
variantNrbelex: your looking for keepaliv or somthing04:31
variantA-L-P-H-A: right, so.. if you say.. open k3b does it detect it?04:32
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Toma-A-L-P-H-A: cant mount a usb drive?04:32
Nrbelexvariant, that's a user in here sometimes?04:32
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A-L-P-H-Avariant: I don't have k3b... let me install that04:32
wantedExist one theme for gnome that transform the bar such as the MacOSX bar??04:32
variantNrbelex: no, keepalive.. stops vnc or whatever service from timeing out.. its somthing you need to do04:32
kjmwanted : look into gdesklets04:32
writingdeskwabz:  Definately possible...04:33
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Nrbelexvariant, oh, sweet - thanks04:33
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Milchmannhi, im trying to install american mcgee's alice in ubuntu. i've installed wine & loki. downloaded the loki installer, inserted both cds and now i dont know what to do ;) coulnd't find a howto in the net04:33
A-L-P-H-AToma-: I don't know yet... I know my usb key gets recognized automaticcaly.04:33
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AscMilchmann: do you have a computer running windows?04:34
Milchmannyes04:34
jUggERNAUt1980Is there a way to veiw your password, or account on your machine; for say you would like to change it, and can you change it in terminal? or04:34
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gileswheya gang04:34
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variantjUggERNAUt1980: you cant view the password, you can change it with passwd command though04:35
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gileswi'm totally sold on beryl alxgl04:35
gileswreally smooth04:35
A-L-P-H-Avariant: k... k3b doesn't recognize the drive.04:35
AscMilchmann: Installing AMA on windows, then using a no-cd hack, then moving the game directory to linux worked for me.04:35
AscMilchmann: you might also try running the installer on the CD with wine04:35
mheathWhy does the 'eclipse' package depend on mozilla-browser?04:35
Asc(but I don't know if that will work)04:35
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Milchmannthx asc! i'll try try both04:36
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variantA-L-P-H-A: no idea hten mate.. try the cdrecord program on its own04:36
A-L-P-H-AI wonder if I reboot if that'll work04:36
cheatersrealmwhat's the deal with ubuntu's compiz repositories, they're currently 'broken'04:36
cheatersrealmanyone know when they'll be back up?04:36
AscMilchmann: or if it will work at all any more.  The last update of wine broke all the games that used to work for me.04:36
Nrbelexvariant, are you talking about the keepalived package?04:36
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mikmmheath, if I had to guess, it's because Eclipse has a browser in it04:37
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mheathmikm, not really true...If you install the binary packages avilable from the eclipse site, theres no dependency on any browser.04:38
cheatersrealmdoh04:38
variantNrbelex: not specificaly, that might help though04:38
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mikmNot sure why, then.04:39
kamuianyone know where I can get codeblcoks from?04:39
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kamuiI hear thats a really good IDE for SDL/C++ dev04:39
kamuicode::blocks04:39
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kamuibut I can't seem to find it apt-cache searching04:39
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Milchmannac ok installing via wine is not working, trying it via windows now04:40
Milchmannasc ok installing via wine is not working, trying it via windows now04:40
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mikmkamui, http://www.codeblocks.org/ ?04:40
kjmwhen apt-cache search doesn't work - how about google?  You have to compile code blocks yourself.  Check sourceforge.  Also - maybe create a .deb and submit it to a maintainer.04:40
kamuimikm: I C, there's no package in ubuntu?04:41
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kjmkamui : http://www.codeblocks.org/04:41
mikmkamui, I guess not04:41
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mikmkamui, I haven't searched the repos, so don't take my word for it04:42
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kjmkamui - even bettter....with 20 more seconds with google. http://forums.codeblocks.org/index.php/topic,1194.0.html04:42
kamuiwell Ill be fine with one of the nightly builds from the website, thanks for the help04:42
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GigaClonhow can i set a users preferred language04:44
GigaClonI have a user that wants japanese04:44
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GigaClonI have the language support installed for it04:45
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TuxthePenguin84Can anyone tell me how to execute a script everytime I login via SSH/Console?04:45
yokobrpleasee04:45
yokobrsomeone help me with rar...04:45
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Jack_Sparrowsystem admin language support dosent get you there?04:45
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GigaClonI have it enabled there but how to set a user to use that language04:46
yokobrplease guys04:46
gileswanyone know how to get the envy24control mixer in ubuntu?04:46
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cherubielTuxthePenguin84: for bash, put it in .bash_profile, in the users home dir04:46
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GigaClon!tell yokobr about rar04:46
cherubielyokobr: whats the problem?04:46
mikmyokobr what's wrong?04:46
TuxthePenguin84cher... thanks04:46
Bertohi - new ubuntu user here, longtime linux user though...04:46
yokobri cant unrar an archive04:46
kjm!rar04:47
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free04:47
Bertowhat do I do when apt-get remove    does not work?  I am getting an error from the uninstall script (of scim-gtk2-immodule)04:47
Lam_how do i get hibernation to work on my laptop? it "appears" to work but then opens in a pin-stripped screen and doesn't continue (i have an ATI video card)04:47
Jack_SparrowGigaClon: I missed the subtlety of setting just one of your users to a specific language04:47
briankI am having a problem with Vim 7, would anybody care to help?04:47
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mikmbriank, what sorts of problems?04:48
GigaClonI can't even find how to change it on a system-basis04:48
Milchmannasc ok got it installed & cracked on windows. now i copy the game dir to .wine/drive_c in my home and simply run via wine?04:48
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karrotxwoah04:49
karrotxslow it down04:49
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DethklokIs there a config file that you edit to rid the console of the system beep?04:49
Jack_SparrowGigaClon: Not at the bottom of that screen default language for new user etc... something linke that04:49
Jack_Sparrowtime for dinner  cya04:49
AscMilchman: You can copy it to anywhere, but yeah.  It also helps if you sacrifice a small animal to the dark gods.04:49
GigaClonyeah the account already exists04:49
Milchmanni try to catch one04:49
kjmAsc - if that animal is a virgin - the better04:49
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Asckjm: Da.  Da.  Although with most rhodents....04:50
GigaClonthere doesn't seem to be anyway to change language period04:50
GigaClonhelp04:50
TonrenGuys, I just got my Wacom Tablet working, but I can't do anything even a little precise with it because it's really SHAKEY.04:51
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TonrenHas anyone had this problem before?04:51
cherubielDethklok: System->Preferences->Sound, under the System Beep tab,04:51
cherubieluncheck Enable system beep - if you need some sort of entry under /proc04:51
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cfh_devI've got all my data transferred to a new drive but now need to install Grub to the mbr.04:51
cfh_devWhat's the command to do that?04:51
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Lotharcan someone tell me the comand line to unrar a file04:52
karrotxok, question04:52
karrotxwhy ubuntu over debian?04:52
karrotxo04:52
lastnodeLothar, apt-get install unrar-free04:52
briankI can't get backspace to work in vim 7 any takers?04:52
Lotharty04:52
karrotxi've read the ubuntu web page and still have these questions04:52
lastnodekarrotx, stuff liket aht goes in #ubuntu-offtopic please04:52
cfh_devLothar, then unrar x somefile.rar04:52
AscTonren: This is a long shot, but you could try messing with mouse settings.  Reduce speed and acceleration(possibly to minimum values)04:52
karrotxlastnode: ok04:52
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mikmbriank, I assume you are in insert mode04:52
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kjmkarrotx - Why not?  Faster release cycle, legacy support, terrific user support, more recent packages, easier install.....04:52
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kjmanything I missed?04:53
briankyes04:53
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Asccfh_dev: grub-install /dev/install-device04:53
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cfh_devAsc: I get this message on that command (grub-install /dev/hdf)04:53
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cfh_dev/dev/hdf does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.04:54
karrotxkjm: this isn't a troll, however, define "easier install"04:54
kjmkarrotx - x is configured for you, everything (excluding wireless) works out of the box.  Debian is a little bit more work to get up and running (IMHO)04:54
TonrenAsc: I doubt that's it, but worth a shot04:55
karrotxkjm: cool04:55
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karrotxthanks for the info04:55
Asccfh_def: New one on me.  Uh, is the position the drive occupies on the IDE interface enabled in BIOS? :\04:55
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briankmikm, I typed :set nocp, otherwise I can't get into insert mode, and once I am backspace won't go up to the next line04:56
AscTonren: It's all I've got.  I had a similar problem when I enabled 2x mouse acceleration once.04:56
hellgrazerkarrotx: I can understand what you are saying.. there are a few problems with special hardware, but I started out on slackware, and I'm keeping it as my desktop distro.04:56
TonrenAsc: Hmm...04:56
Asccfh_dev: also, is it a SATA drive?04:56
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cfh_devAsc: nope.  It's IDE with XFS\04:57
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cfh_devAsc, I just ran grub-install --recheck /dev/hdf and seem to have something more to work with now04:57
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kjmExactly - I started with Debian, then discovered Libranet.  When that folded I floated for a bit.  Went debian, tried Fedora.  But, I've finally settled on Ubuntu and it has polish.  (although I really miss libranet....)04:57
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Asccfh_dev: Excellent.04:57
gu014i am trying to log into a LAN comp via ssh and i continue to receive a permission denied error msg after typing the password when i absolutely know the password is correct....would anyone be able to help me out?04:57
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TonrenAsc: Ugh... now pressure sensitivity doesn't work04:59
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gu014what permission should /home dir be set to as maybe there is a permission problem that is limititing my access via ssh?04:59
DaveyHow can I check if I have a firewall running, and if so, turn it off? From CLI05:00
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wickedpuppygu014, is sshd running ?  does is ssh port open ?05:00
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gu014wickedpuppy: yes, and yes05:00
wickedpuppygu014, can you ssh inside locally ?05:00
AscTonren: I do find it's handy to keep a windows partition.05:01
gu014wickedpuppy: i am able accept the certificate, enter user name..and when i type in the password i receive a permission denied error message05:01
czer323!acpi05:01
ubotuacpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)05:01
gu014wickedpuppy: i am able accept the certificate, enter user name..and when i type in the password i receive a permission denied error message05:01
TonrenAsc: Yeah, but I never use it.  I just suffer in Linux, because who wants to restart, boot back into Windows, do whatever the hell it is you have to do, then wait for Linux to boot again?05:01
Jack_Sparrow!firewall05:01
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)05:01
gu014wickedpuppy: yes, i can ssh into localhost05:01
wickedpuppygu014, are you logging in as user or root ?05:01
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gu014wickedpuppy: user05:02
Milchmannasc it really works. high resolution, graphics running smooth... i'm just missing the sound ;) did you get the sound working?05:02
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TonrenHey guys, is there a screen recorder for Linux?  To make movies out of what's on your screen?05:03
AscTonren: Linux boots in 50 seconds for me :)05:03
gu014wickedpuppy: also, when i try and ssh in vice versa, i receive the same errors05:03
jUggERNAUt1980Is it possible to open up a comprehensive list of commands for terminal in terminal?05:03
TonrenAsc: It's a little slower for me05:03
wickedpuppygu014, can paste the /etc/ssh/sshd_config in pastebin ?05:04
AscTonren: Yeah, it's a pain.  But at least everything works, one way or the other.05:04
hellgrazerTonren: I've seen one that does flash recordings... is that what you want?05:04
kjmping 19305:04
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kjm*sorry - wrong window05:04
Tonrenhellgrazer: Sure, anything tha tworks05:04
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gu014um, i am not able to do that05:04
gu014wickedpuppy: box is remote05:05
kjmheh, I can ping my laptop - but I don't remember where it is in the house.05:05
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gu014wickedpuppy: any particular section i should type in05:05
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wickedpuppygu014, section ?05:05
cycomkjm: HAHAHAHAHA!05:05
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cycomkjm: send it bells or something so it starts beepign05:06
cycombeeping*05:06
MilchmannAsc, did you get the sound in AMA working?05:06
root__I just ran gparted to resize my /home to make room to install windows05:06
AscMilchmann: Nice.  Mine never ran playably.  For sound, just play around with the settings in the program winecfg.  I'm not familiar with the audio configuration with the new version, because it always crashes when I click on that tab05:06
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hellgrazerTonren: there are a few.. you can use something with VLC or another program that starts with a G... I'll google it for ya.05:06
Milchmannok thx05:06
janina07hi05:06
gu014wickedpuppy: i have the same problem when i try and log in to this pc from the pc in question...shall i paste the contents of this sshd_config?05:06
root__but /home was in an extended partition05:06
kjmheh - it's an apple.  So, I'll just send a crazy intense task to it and wait for the battery to catch fire :)05:06
kjmbe easy to see then05:06
root__how do I get the free space to be primary05:06
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wickedpuppygu014, pls05:06
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cycomroot__: you have to resize the extended partition to be smaller.05:06
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cycomI think you also have to shift it to the end of the drive.  iirc you can't have primaries after the extended.05:07
gu014wickedpuppy: unfortunately, i am not familiar with pastebin, can you help me out?05:07
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gu014wickedpuppy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?05:07
wickedpuppy!pastebin05:07
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:08
wickedpuppyyup05:08
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TiG4How do you restart ALSA?05:08
hellgrazerTonren: look for vncrec, vnc2swf, and xvidcap05:08
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ArrenLexTiG: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils force-reload05:08
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TiG4ArrenLex, Thanks!05:09
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ogami1972it wasn't enough that life is an often pointless struggle, that relationships are filled with lies and pain, and that gos spends his spare time laughing at me...now my flash-sound is mysteriously broken, no USB mouse control, and no ability to install proprietary drivers05:09
Audimageis there an app to unzip rar files for linux05:09
kjm!rar05:09
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free05:09
wickedpuppy!unrar-free05:09
ubotuunrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB05:09
Audimagethanks05:09
TiG4ArrenLex, For some reason, out of nowhere my sound doesnt work.05:09
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gu014wickedpuppy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2484405:09
TiG4ArrenLex, when I type esd I get this05:09
TiG4sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils force-reload05:09
TiG4ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:222:(make_local_socket) connect failed: /tmp/alsa-dmix-2035-1159135938-937289: No such file or directory05:09
TiG4ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:851:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to connect client05:09
Milchmannasc ok winecfg is crashing when i go to the audio tab in settings :(05:10
JavaDeveloperHello, how do I enable my apache2 to externel IP address? or at least not 127.0.0.1?05:10
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TiG4JavaDeveloper, It should be enabled by default05:10
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TiG4JavaDeveloper, Try XAMMP05:10
TiG4XAMPP05:10
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Milchmannit says ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory05:10
JavaDeveloperTiG4: what's XAMMP?05:10
AscMilchmann: Heh, by golly. :\05:10
JavaDeveloperTiG4: is it? cuz I tried setting it up with my router port 80 forwarding to my local IP, it doesn't work05:11
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ArrenLexTiG: it seems to have lost some files it needs. I'm sorry to go all microsoft on you, but... try rebooting.05:11
TiG4JavaDeveloper, It's a standalone everything build05:11
AscMilchmann: same error it gives me05:11
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TiG4JavaDeveloper, http://www.apachefriends.org05:11
JavaDeveloperTiG4: I think I know why, thanks a lot05:11
TiG4ArrenLex, think a gnome logout would work? I cant restart the Server05:11
TiG4JavaDeveloper, NP05:12
ArrenLexTiG: probably not, no.05:12
TiG4Darn05:12
Milchmannhm ok, i try a post at the forum, maybe someone knows a solution05:12
ArrenLexTiG: why can't you restart?05:12
wickedpuppygu014, thats a default sshd ... i see nothing added there ...05:12
TiG4ArrenLex, Running an ircd off this box05:12
wickedpuppyshound't have a problem05:12
ArrenLexOh.05:12
JairunCalothMy new 5.1 surround sound system isn't outputing sound to the correct channels. I do have divers installed for my soundcard however I"m not positive everything is properly configured for it. I"m using NVIDIA CK804 as a sound card. Also I know all the speakers are properly connected, as everything plays on the proper chanel in windows.05:12
TiG4ArrenLex, Haven't setup the leaf yet05:12
AscMilchmann: The file appears to be under /dev/.static/dev/snd/seq.  There might be two ways to do this: one is to edit the wine config file to point at the correct path, the other is to make a link at the wrong location pointing to the correct location05:12
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Milchmannok, i try the 2nd way05:13
supermiguelwhere can i find the original proftp config??05:13
gu014wickedpuppy: that is correct, i have not added anything, it had been working up until the other day05:13
wickedpuppygu014, can you restart sshd and try again ? sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart05:13
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wickedpuppyworking until the other day ? so the config is fine ... i suppose you got to figure out what has been changed since the other day :P05:14
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gu014wickedpuppy: same result05:14
gu014wickedpuppy: restart on both sides05:14
TiG4ArrenLex, Got it working05:14
Milchmannasc i dont have snd/seq in /dev/.static/dev and i cant find that file via locate05:15
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TiG4ArrenLex, there was a file in my home folder that I had deleted by accident some alsa temp file05:15
TiG4it was looking for that file in /tmp05:15
TiG4so I moved it there05:15
Ascls Milchmann: Working on it.05:15
TiG4esd now works05:15
TiG4:)05:15
wickedpuppygu014, then i assume you have not touched /etc/ssh/ssh_config too ?05:15
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gu014wickedpuppy: i have not05:15
ArrenLexTiG: that would be, uh, bad.05:15
Milchmannok05:15
TiG4ArrenLex, heh why?05:15
AudimageI am hving trouble networking my windows xp notebook and my dapper desktop05:15
wickedpuppygu014, then i give up ... by default it shouldn't act like this ..05:16
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ArrenLexTig: deleting random files.05:16
Audimageis there a way to do it?05:16
ArrenLexTiG: getting it to work is good.05:16
TiG4ArrenLex, It was in my home dir05:16
TiG4ArrenLex, Shouldnt have been there05:16
MilchmannAudimage, with samba05:16
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ArrenLexTiG: I don't know what happen. Maybe somebody set us up the bomb?05:16
wickedpuppygu014, sorry dude ... i was sure the problem was with the authentication in config file05:16
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wickedpuppydamn05:16
Audimagemilchmann, i used samba, but i can't see the shared folder on my laptop, and i can't see my laptop on my desktop05:16
TiG4ArrenLex, MMM ZIgg05:16
beunois the wikipedia down, or is it just me?05:16
gu014wickedpuppy: i believe this must be stemming from an added user? i added a user the other day and deleted it today, is it possible that some permissions have gotten mixed around?05:16
wickedpuppygu014, can you try as root ?05:17
invictus_hey can i join the conversation?05:17
gu014i dont have that enabled05:17
kjm!ask < invictus05:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ask < invictus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:17
wickedpuppy# Authentication:05:17
wickedpuppyLoginGraceTime 12005:17
wickedpuppyPermitRootLogin yes05:17
hellgrazerArrenLex: up <--> us  :)05:17
wickedpuppyyes you have05:17
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invictus_i have a problem connecting to the net05:17
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MilchmannAudimage,  i have entered the following lines in the /etc/fstab //192.168.0.1/WinXP /media/C6PO3 smbfs username=xxxx,password=xxxx,uid=1000,noauto,user  0  005:17
Milchmannits the only way i got it working05:18
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JavaDeveloperhow do I make thunderbird to be my default mail client?05:18
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linoleumhi, where can I read my log about the boot?05:18
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wickedpuppyJavaDeveloper, system -> preference - >prefered apps05:19
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JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: ic ic...thank you so much....05:19
wickedpuppynp :P05:19
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gu014wickedpuppy: i believe it is a firewall issue as i just added the rule in my ubuntu pc...logged in from the ubuntu server and it worked....can you direct me as to the command to add this rule into the server firewall(iptables?)05:21
JairunCalothCan anyone help me get my new 5.1 surround sound setup to output to the correct chanels? I know the hardware is properly setup, everything plays in the correct chanels in windows05:21
AscMilchmann: got it.  do 'cd /dev/snd;sudo ln -s /dev/.static/dev/snd/seq seq'05:21
wickedpuppygu014, pls get firestarter05:21
wickedpuppyits a very neat gui firewall :P05:21
Milchmannthx, will try later!!05:21
gu014wickedpuppy: i can, ubuntu server is console05:21
gu014cant*05:21
wickedpuppyoh the server heh ..05:21
AscMilchmann: Best of luck.05:22
Milchmannthx05:22
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kjm JairunCaloth ; havent read this whole thing - but http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11314505:22
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wickedpuppyheh my iptables sux .... can you look into your ubuntu iptables ? sudo iptables -L05:22
kjmpeeps who've had issues.  I don't have 5.1 myself - so don't know.05:23
jUggERNAUt1980Ok, when I  try to configure the network card in terminal I get: ip: Host name lookup failure... What does this mean, and what do I do from here?05:24
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kjm JairunCaloth - here as well http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~bondhugu/alsamch.shtml05:24
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JairunCalothjkm: heh, that's almost my exact setup05:24
sgleo87trying to get my g15 keyboard to work with the g15 daemon...installed everything but getting the following error message wnen trying to run g15daemon: g15daemon: error while loading shared libraries: libg15.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:24
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hellgrazerjUggERNAUt1980: what command are you typing in the terminal?05:26
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oscarillohi there05:27
sgleo87trying to get my g15 keyboard to work with the g15 daemon...installed everything but getting the following error message wnen trying to run g15daemon: g15daemon: error while loading shared libraries: libg15.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. Anybody have any idea how to fix that?05:28
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jUggERNAUt1980hellgraver:I am tryin initiate configure a network,and I am on the first step05:28
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mexicandu37wickedpuppy: im dumb..there was an ip conflict on lan..server and pc had the same ip05:30
gileswhrm is writable ntfs mounting built into ubuntu now?05:30
gileswi tried following a guide and i get ntfs-fuse unknown05:30
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ArrenLexgilesw: as far as I know it's still highly experimental and dangerous.05:31
ArrenLex!fuse05:31
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse05:31
Roger_The_Bumdoes ubuntu support RFC 1149?05:31
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wickedpuppymexicandu37, oh ah ... :P05:31
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hellgrazerjUggERNAUt1980: what does ifconfig give you?05:31
gileswyea thats the guide i'm using05:32
wickedpuppyit happened to me many times ... so ya .. you aren't shit yet ... not tell you done rm -rf / ...05:32
ArrenLexgilsew: you're willing to risk corrupting your ntfs partition?05:32
wickedpuppy*till05:32
TuxthePenguin84ifconfig should output ethernet device info05:32
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gileswI've got a backup of it05:32
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SurfnKidhi guys i have a bit of a problem with a rename technique that got one thing running but another not showing05:33
cliffdanyone using mythtv with ubuntu? find any good documents to help you with the install?05:33
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wickedpuppy!mythtv05:33
ubotumythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/05:33
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oscarillodoes anyone know why the file association in nautilus could not work? I cannot switch the application in the "open with" tab05:34
wickedpuppySurfnKid, whats the technique ?05:34
hellgrazerTuxthePenguin84: heh.. that's the info I need from jUggERNAUt1980.05:34
cliffdwickedpuppy: thanks.05:34
wickedpuppy:P05:34
SurfnKidi renamed the eth1 wireless adapter to wlan0 (succssfully) but the taskbar icon shows with a red STOP on it, but im online, and iwconfig shows im connected to the router, how can i get the taskbar to refresh the newly cchanged wlan0 and show its up05:34
TuxthePenguin84hellgrazer: hah05:34
jUggERNAUt1980how do you type to some one's name so it is in the red?05:34
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wickedpuppySurfnKid, tried rebooting yet ?05:34
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Soheilhey, i'm behind DHCP, i got my ethernet setup on DHCP and my router IP for servername, can't connect to internet, any suggestions?05:35
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SurfnKidyes actually that had given me problems before because the name hadnt shown up on iwconfig, but i rebooted and now it does.  the only thing is that when i drag the mouse over the icon, it says Network Connection: eth105:35
harisundWhat is the name of the router on which you can install Linux? Can you install Ubuntu on it/05:35
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SurfnKidbut thats dead, gone, no more,05:35
TuxthePenguin84Linksys WRT54G i think.... Last I saw they were coming with linux firmware installed05:36
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SurfnKidbut it doesnt show that its on05:36
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SurfnKideven my tleds are dead05:36
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FlannelTuxthePenguin84: not the most recent versions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrt54g05:36
SurfnKidsome process still thinks its eth1 even tho my wlan0 connection is actively renamed to wlan005:36
harisundThanks TuxthePenguin84 ... I was just curious ... at home right now I have a Linux box acting as a router ... which is connected to a wireless access point ..05:37
wickedpuppySurfnKid, then its gnome problem ? since the network is fine ... ifconfig shows the correct name tight ?05:37
cycomThey make the WRT54GL still, for hacking up, but no, ubuntu won't fit on it.05:37
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gileswheh05:37
gileswi got a wrt off ebay05:37
ArrenLexA wart?05:37
ArrenLexYay warts. o_o05:37
gileswand a slug :P05:37
ArrenLexFun.05:37
hellgrazerjUggERNAUt1980: That is determined by your IRC client.  Aren't you worried about getting your network running instead of pretty IRC colors?05:37
Flannelcycom: you can still find plenty older WRT54Gs out there, just have to check serial numbers05:38
SurfnKidwickedpuppy, now it does, but for instance tleds is a Tx/Rx monitor that blinks on my NUM and SCROLL LOCK  LEDS... I renamed it to wlan0 and they arent working, only if its on eth105:38
TuxthePenguin84Yea the [L]  denotes the Linux  firmware05:38
cycomFlannel: WRT54GSs work too.05:38
Flannelcycom: right, they just have extra RAM/memory, I've actually got a GS myself.05:38
harisundBut what is the attraction behind that? I mean, I can get my Linux box to behave as a router right now, and I don't see what I am missing by not having a wrt..05:38
TuxthePenguin84Anyone a fan of woot.com?05:38
jUggERNAUt1980hellgrazer: Very much indeed I am, But I wanted to be sure you were about to see my messages,and know  that I am talking to you05:39
cycomI haev a regular G and a GS05:39
cycomI bought 2, just because of the linux thing.  Running kismet drone on em is a snap05:39
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wickedpuppySurfnKid, no idea about those though ... sorry ... since you have restarted the whole computer , there be no use asking you to restart X05:39
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Flannelharisund: the linksys firmware on there can be reflashed (it's GPLd so they had to release) with better firmware, you can include functionality not already there.  like traffic shaping, and other stuff, that wouldn't normally be found on routers sub $10005:40
SurfnKidwickedpuppy, yeah, i just want to have wlan0 show up on everything, but it seems its only partially recognized, and every other process still wants to use eth105:40
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Flannelanyway, this is all -offtopic, #ubuntu-offtopic for anyone else who wishes to continue router discussions05:40
ArrenLexMy router is YOUR MOTHER.05:40
ArrenLex....sorry, I just had to get that out there.05:40
ArrenLexRight. On topic. I can do that.05:40
harisundok sorry Flannel ...sure..05:40
hellgrazerjUggERNAUt1980: ah.. we'll start a query then.. one on one chat. I can't miss any messages that way now can I? :)05:41
Bertoi plan on buying one of those routers and pimping it out with linux tooo.... have to research which ones work and all tho05:41
TuxthePenguin84I'm new to IRC... I'm assuming there are moderators here?05:41
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MadpilotTuxthePenguin84, yes05:42
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briguydcan anyone help me with mounting a networked samba folder?05:42
chalcedonyTuxthePenguin84: there are .. are you looking for help with Ubuntu ?05:42
JairunCalothok...05:42
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ArrenLex!smbfs05:42
ubotusmbfs: mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x). In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 369 kB, installed size 888 kB05:42
TuxthePenguin84chalcedony, no not right now. thanks though05:42
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JairunCalothI"ve got most of the speakers putting out on the correct channel. However, my sub and center speakers are still backwards05:43
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briguydim pretty sure i'd be able to do it under ubuntu, but im on xubuntu, so i cant use all that GUI stuff, have to do it from the command line05:43
briguydi installed samba and everything, just not sure on the commands to mount a networked folder05:44
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ArrenLexbirguyd: man smbmount05:44
briguydwhich i already sat up under linux to be shared with samba05:44
briguydArrenLex, i tried that, im still confused05:44
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TuxthePenguin84birdguyd: mount -t smbfs //ipaddress/sharename /media/folder05:45
ArrenLexbriguyd: sharing a local folder and mounting a network folder are different.05:45
ArrenLexYes.05:45
briguydwhat is the "sharename"?05:45
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Brokensteinhiya05:45
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ArrenLexSo if you have a computer in your network named Downstairs, and it has a shared folder on it called EvilPlans, and you want to mount that to /home/bob/takeovertheworld, then you would run the command sudo mount -t smbfs //Downstairs/EvilPlans /home/bob/takeovertheworld05:46
TuxthePenguin84briguyd, to help me understand your situation better are you trying to mount to a windows share?05:46
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briguydTuxthePenguin84, nope05:47
briguydanother ubuntu box05:47
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ArrenLexbriguyd: that help?05:48
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AscWhat is the name of the program used to change monitor resolutions?05:48
hellgrazerAh.. I like the /media folder, but I just haven't grasped the knack for it yet.  I always run for /mnt first.05:48
Telroth_Plushie|randr?05:48
briguydi tried sudo mount -t smbfs //ip/sharename /media/whatever/ and it says "10935: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)"05:49
TuxthePenguin84briguyd if im not mistaken you need to setup samba shares in /etc/smb.conf05:49
briguydTuxthePenguin84, how?05:49
briguydi set up the sharing computer with the file manager05:49
Brokensteincan anyone help me getting at least some syncing working with my pda?05:50
Audimagecan anybody help me network my Dapper desktop to my XP laptop05:51
TuxthePenguin84briguyd open /etc/smb.conf with a text editor and scroll down to "Share Definitions" I think this is where you set what folders you want to share05:51
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briguydTuxthePenguin84, on which machine?05:51
TuxthePenguin84briguyd the one that is hosting the files05:52
TuxthePenguin84Audi, ask away05:52
briguydTuxthePenguin84, oh, shouldnt the file manager un gnome do that automagically?05:52
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TuxthePenguin84It might automatically find Samba shares that you define in the Share Definitions05:52
AudimageI am unable to see either of my computers through my router, i KNOW my router works, i just can't get my desktop (dapper) to recognize it05:52
Audimagei can't ping my laptop (xp)05:53
piggie'wc05:53
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Brokensteindoes gnome pilot even work? i havent found anything useful online yet05:53
briguydTuxthePenguin84, no, if i use the gnome file manager to set up the share in the first place, shouldnt it be added to that file?05:53
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TuxthePenguin84I'm assuming I dont think Ive done it your way before05:53
jUggERNAUt1980hellgrazer I am using XChat for my icr, and my messages are not getting to In DCC05:54
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briguydif i do "smbtree" it shows up as "\\COMPUTER-NAME\Share-Name"05:54
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Skarrwell, I give up on ubuntu guys. I just cant get the driver to work. So, I deleted the partition, now how do I set the extra space from that partition to my main partition?05:54
hellgrazerjUggERNAUt1980: are you not seeing my messages to you?05:55
jUggERNAUt1980yes05:55
FlannelSkarr: get a windows partitioner, and reformat it, or re-merge it into your main partition05:55
jUggERNAUt1980but you are not see mine05:55
Brokensteincan anyone tell me if theyve had any success with gnome pilot?05:55
jUggERNAUt1980seeing05:55
TuxthePenguin84birguyd yes smbtree will list any and all shares samba/windows05:56
briguydso then why cant i mount it?05:56
hellgrazerjUggERNAUt1980: ah.. I learn something new every day.  I was sure I could message you..05:57
TuxthePenguin84briguyd, what was the error you were getting again?05:57
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MadpilotjUggERNAUt1980, you need to identify to nickserv05:57
briguyd"10935: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)" "SMB connection failed"05:57
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TuxthePenguin84you doing a sudo on it first?05:58
briguydyep05:58
TuxthePenguin84just for fun whats the share name?05:58
jUggERNAUt1980How do I identify to nickserv?05:58
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FlanneljUggERNAUt1980: /msg nickserv help register05:58
briguydBig_Music05:58
stephanshi05:58
GomezDenI've changed the interfaces file for static but then i cant ping anything out of my network. Is there a DNS setting or gateway line i have to add?05:58
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briguyd(its a 500 GB usb external drive with lotsa music)05:59
hellgrazerMadpilot: ah.. I had no idea.. I though everyone did that anyway :)05:59
TuxthePenguin84briguyd so your doing: sudo mount -t smbfs //192.168.1.100/Big_Music /media/music ..... or something similar?05:59
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briguydyes, but 192.168.1.10205:59
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TuxthePenguin84k05:59
briguydexactly the same but that05:59
Davo_DinkumHi all.05:59
TuxthePenguin84have you done sudo apt-get install smbfs?05:59
briguydyes06:00
stephansi am running ubuntu server for my web server... does anyone know if ubuntu has a script somewhere that restarts apache every couple of days???06:00
TuxthePenguin84and its not password protected?06:00
unfknblvbl!ico06:00
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ubotuico: X client - ico. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 14 kB, installed size 88 kB06:00
briguydwhich password do i type when it asks for one?06:00
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unfknblvbl!.ico06:00
Davo_DinkumCan anyone help me with this?: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenVirtualMachine/XenOnUbuntuDapper06:00
stephanscuz it does not start again... since i have ssl with paassword enabled06:00
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briguydthe machine is, to log on, i dont think the file is protected06:00
chicalinuxhi06:00
GomezDenbriguyd: you use add the user name and password to the mount command06:00
TuxthePenguin84when you sudo the mount just enter the admin password like usual06:00
cherubielbriguyd: 10935: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)" "SMB connection failed06:00
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cherubielbriguyd: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=461202 sorry06:01
jUggERNAUt1980REGISTER <password>06:01
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GomezDencan anyone help me with a networking issue?06:01
chicalinuxi am triying to create a iso whit the reconstruc program but is not doing the trick06:01
jUggERNAUt1980hehe, I have no idea where do this at06:01
hellgrazerGomezDen: depends on the issue :)06:01
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FlanneljUggERNAUt1980: in a query with nickserv06:02
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chicalinuxplease help :(06:02
GomezDenhellgrazer: well I cant ping anything other then LAN computers after i set my stuff to static.06:02
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Rob-Westhow do i register06:02
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unfknblvblwhat linux app can read .ico files ?06:02
GomezDenhellgrazer: doing this all CL though.06:03
chicalinuxnobady?06:03
briguydbrb06:03
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Rob-Westhello06:03
cherubielwhats the problem, chicalinux ?06:04
hellgrazerGomezDen: ok.. I need to know a little about your setup..06:04
cpk1anyone have any insight on setting up a wireless dhcpd server with ubuntu?06:04
chicalinuxi am triying to creato a custom iso  whit reconstruc program but is not working06:04
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GomezDenhellgrazer: changed the interfaces file, changed dhcp to static, added lines address 192.168.1.5 submask 255.255.255.006:05
chicalinuxi am usig a iso of dapper06:05
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GomezDenhellgrazer: as it showed in the man file06:05
Skarranyone know a network adapter that has drivers for linux?06:05
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chicalinuxi need a live cd of ubuntu or i can use the dapper iso ?06:05
GomezDenhellgrazer: it just seems like the DNS is no longer working, thought the resolv.conf file did that but i think i was wrong :(06:06
jUggERNAUt1980Flannel: Ok, I am reading the directions on freenode. net..I should be aight06:06
hellgrazerGomezDen: what man file are you following?06:06
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GomezDenhellgrazer: man interfaces id assume itd be the GNU or what not06:07
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lastnodewhere does dpkg unpack sources to?06:07
GomezDenhellgrazer: ill admit to having debian network install but ubuntu is debian is it not?06:08
lastnode(on apt-get source)06:08
hellgrazerGomezDen: actually Ubuntu is based on Debian.06:08
jUggERNAUt1980#06:08
jUggERNAUt1980    /msg nickserv register <your-password>06:08
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GomezDenhellgrazer: any who the config files are almost all the same across linux06:09
chicalinuxi need to use ubuntu to to work whit  reconstruc becuse i am in Debian06:09
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flemnosjUggERNAUt1980, without the spaces in front06:10
GomezDenhellgrazer: u have any ideas?06:10
hellgrazerjUggERNAUt1980: where it says "<your-password>" replace that with a password you will remember (eg. /msg nickserv register homeslice)06:10
chicalinuxi reed the man but is very clear of what distro i need to use or if reconstruc work whit ebian06:10
Skarranyone know a network adapter that has drivers for linux?06:10
jUggERNAUt1980Thanks!06:10
hellgrazerbrb.. phone call06:10
briguydi'm still getting the same error after using cherubiel's instructions06:11
GomezDenSkarr: yours seems to be working fine:)06:11
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nomasteryodaSkarr, wifi?06:11
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quiteFrankhi all how do I duplicate a bootable floppy06:12
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SkarrGomezDen: I'm not using linux, im using windows. I spent 3 days on here vigorously trying to figure out how to be able to get the D-Link wireless network adapter to pick up the signal from my router, cause It doesnt have drivers for linux so I just gave up and uninstalled but i decided I should give it one last chance and just try buying a new adapter06:12
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tuvwhy would gkrellm use too much cpu? it gets my pentium M to reach its max. frequency and stay at 75%+ usage !!06:13
briguydTuxthePenguin84, any ideas?06:13
cliffdanyone know why my vim isnt doing context highlighting for php?06:13
cpk1Skarr: have you looked into ndiswrapper?06:13
cartuferskarr, try the prism 2 chipset06:13
GomezDenskarr: not sure but NDISwrapper06:13
tuvit doesn't do that on my other debian machine!06:13
GomezDenskarr: listen to cpk1 he sounds smarter :)06:13
Skarrcpk1: Yeah, but it doesnt have an .inf file06:13
withayandai'm suddenly having problems w/ my cd drive not mounting.  where do i start?06:14
nomasteryodaSkarr, if you are talking for a laptop, you can get a nice internal card for it...06:14
nomasteryodai use the intel chipset06:14
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nomasteryodapaid 22$06:14
TuxthePenguin84briguyd, no sorry06:14
ArrenLexwithayanada: does it give you an error message?06:14
nomasteryodaand it is "centrino" certifid06:14
Skarrcpk1: and i looked on the ndis wrapper list on the wiki and it said a link to the inf for it but it was a broken link, and I let out a big long darth vader "noooooo!"06:14
GomezDenskarr: google it06:14
SkarrGomezDen: I did, it just doesnt come with an inf06:15
nomasteryodahttp://www.provantage.com/intel-wm3b2915abgnax~7ITEN08Q.htm06:15
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jUggERNAUt1980I'm registered no apparently so I should be able to do whatever now I hope?06:15
Skarri guess im just too stupid for linux06:15
nomasteryodaoh well back ordered, but that is the one i got06:15
GomezDenskarr: naw wireless has been tough i think06:16
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GomezDenCDDDDDDD06:16
echosAnyone have expirence with intel storage matrix raids and ubuntu. Please /msg me06:17
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cpk1Skarr: do you have the cd with an .inf?06:17
GomezDenSkarr: Your not too stupid for Linux, you just have to make it your b*tch06:18
ArrenLexGomez: you're * (it's possessive)06:18
ArrenLexAnd Gomez:06:18
mineralewhat's the name for the mplayer plugin for firefox?06:18
ArrenLex!language06:18
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:18
ArrenLexminerale: mplayerplug-in06:18
nomasteryodalol06:18
GomezDenAre you bashing my english?06:18
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ArrenLexGomez: yes.06:18
nomasteryodahttp://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=intel+a/b/g+wireless+mini-pci+WM3B2915ABGNAX&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&sa=X&oi=froogle&ct=title06:19
nomasteryodasorry06:19
cartuferengrish* :P06:19
nomasteryodashould have tiny'd it06:19
cpk1Skarr: if i remember correctly the "installer" program for windows can just be unpacked and you can grab the .inf from it if its in there06:19
mineralearrenlex: that was not found ....06:19
briguydTuxthePenguin84,06:19
briguydi got it to work06:19
briguydusing no password06:19
ArrenLexminerale: the package is probably called mozilla-mplayer06:19
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SurfnKidgot it06:19
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GomezDenArrenLex: you understood what i said though right?06:20
SurfnKidwickedpuppy, got it06:20
wickedpuppyeh you managed to fix it ?06:20
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wickedpuppyhow ?06:20
wickedpuppycan share with us ?06:20
SurfnKidwickedpuppy, the network status icon stays stuck if i change the alias name in iftab06:20
ArrenLexGomez: of course. The point of a language isn't to "make someone understand what you're saying". The point of a language is "to communicate your point correctly, effectively and eloquently."06:20
ArrenLexGomez: I assure you if the only point of language was solely to make someone understand your point, we would still be grunting.06:21
nomasteryodahttp://mgalug.org/hardware/wireless this is my small conribution to linux... though that abg card has yet to be listed06:21
SurfnKidif i rename it just like that and bring the network up, the taskbar will show eth1 no such device, and it wont bring fwd the status window to select/change to the new wlan0 adapter06:21
Skarrcpk1: sorry i was afk, ill try that thansk06:21
SurfnKidso...06:21
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nomasteryodalol06:21
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Skarrcpk1: and once i do that, all i do is install ndiswrapper and in the network options put ndiswrapper and then choose the inf file?06:21
Justin_Watti'm having trouble mounting an external hard drive06:22
nomasteryodagrunting often makes you feel better at least06:22
ArrenLexnomastery: no argument there.06:22
Skarryay06:22
Skarrim not depressed anymoe06:22
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SurfnKidbefore i changed it to wlan0 i clicked on the network status window (when eth1 was working) and left the window open, then i changed/renamed/restarted the network settings and when it came back up, i could now choose WLAN0 from it06:22
ArrenLexYay prozac!06:22
Justin_Wattfdisk -l shows: /dev/sda1   *           1       19455   156272256    7  HPFS/NTFS06:22
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wickedpuppySurfnKid, great :P thanks for the info ...06:22
tuvwhy would gkrellm use too much cpu? it gets my pentium M to reach its max. frequency and stay at 75%+ usage !!06:23
nomasteryodaSkarr, ya it will work.. have this one working with bcmfirmware stuff, but it used to use ndiswrapper with it...06:23
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SurfnKidno probs!06:23
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Justin_Watt /etc/fstab has this line: /dev/sda1       /media/usb0     ntfs    rw,user,users   1       206:23
nomasteryodaJustin_Watt, not rw06:23
SurfnKidthanks for the help, it actually worked thru iftab, there wasnt anything else to do, even after restarting, it doesnt do anything, unless you choose the adapter06:23
nomasteryodanot an ntfs06:23
ArrenLexthrough *06:24
Justin_Wattok... but fdisk -l06:24
Justin_Wattshows HPFS/NTFS06:24
nomasteryodaya06:24
ArrenLexJustin: is there a problem?06:24
tuvno one uses gkrellm in ubuntu? how sad!06:24
Justin_Wattand it was original formated on a windows box06:24
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nomasteryodayou can do r but not rw without modification ... i.e another package to allow unsafe writing to ntfs drives06:24
Justin_Wattproblem is mount -a changes the permission of usb to 50006:25
ArrenLexJustin_Watt: what permissions are you looking for?06:25
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Justin_Watti just want to be able to cd into the drive06:25
Justin_Wattobviously cd usb0 gives permission denies06:26
ArrenLexJustin_Watt: then change rw,user,users to: rw,user,users,umask=00006:26
nomasteryodaread permissions on a usb external ntfs drive06:26
ArrenLexJustin: but I don't know if you'll be able to write on it. I think you have to modify the drivers.06:26
ArrenLexJustin: "umask" is essentially octal permissions inverted. 777 in chmod = 000 mask.06:26
nomasteryoda!ntfs06:26
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse06:26
nomasteryodatry this link06:27
ArrenLexJustin: but the line will let you cd to it and read, definitely.06:27
Justin_Wattah ha06:27
Justin_Wattthat works06:27
ArrenLexYou're welcome. ^^06:27
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Justin_Watti will check out the link06:27
Justin_Wattbut at this point, there's no reason that the drive needs to be ntfs06:28
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Justin_Watti'm going to turn it into a backup drive06:28
cpk1Skarr: there is a little more to it than that06:28
Justin_WattbackupPC06:28
Skarrcpk1: can you tell me?06:28
SkarrHey guys why don't anti-smokers like linux?06:28
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SkarrCause it has tarballs06:28
Skarr*rimshot*06:29
cpk1Skarr: i think you need a .sys and .inf and then you install it, and then you add it to your startup if you want it to start everytime at boot06:29
ArrenLexI'm anti-smoker. I like Linux.06:29
SkarrSo am I06:29
nomasteryodalol06:29
SkarrI was just making a joke...06:29
ArrenLexI have no idea what you're implying by tarballs, either.06:29
SkarrYou know how those tv comercials always say they fill your lungs with tar06:29
ArrenLexYeah?06:29
Skarrso06:29
Skarrtar balls.06:29
Skarrlike06:29
tuvgkrellm? anybody?06:29
Skarrthose archives on linux06:29
ArrenLexOh, I see! Because balls are related to lungs. Yes, I get it now.06:29
mempflol06:30
sureshoti see the coralation06:30
SkarrHar har har06:30
cpk1tuv: what about it?06:30
unfknblvbli have a .ico file and i need to convert it to png06:30
tuvwhy would gkrellm use too much cpu? it gets my pentium M to reach its max. frequency and stay at 75%+ usage !!06:30
SkarrI could make a more politicly incorrect one06:30
nomasteryodaJustin_Watt, just my 2c, but i would mak either dirve ext2 or ext3 if you plan tot use for backup  on linux06:30
cpk1Skarr: this should tell you everything you need for ndiswrapper https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper06:31
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nomasteryodai have 3 such drives06:31
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Skarrcpk1: thanks yo06:31
tuvcpk1, why would it use too much cpu? it gets my pentium M to reach its max. frequency and stay at 75%+ usage !!06:31
Skarrthey have wolfenstein et on linux right?06:32
FlannelSkarr: yes06:32
Skarrwoot06:32
ArrenLex!tell tuv about repeat06:32
ArrenLex!tell ArrenLex about alsa06:32
ashafferAnybody here run half-life, wow or any other games through the 'crossover' software yet?06:32
Skarr!tell PoisonedV about how awesome he is06:32
ArrenLex!tell Bill Gates he sucks06:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tell Bill Gates he sucks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:33
sureshoti keep telling people that if the gaming companies would put out a linux version it would put ms out of busness06:33
tuvArrenLex, thanks, although this doesn't solve my problem. trying is what counts, right?06:33
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ArrenLextuv: well, if we don't know, we won't know the first time you ask it and we won't know the tenth time. You're just flooding the channel. Google it, or use the forums.06:34
ashafferMS won't go out of business, they make a trash product and are booming anyways, it's blind allegiance06:34
Justin_Wattnomasteryoda: i just ran mkfs /dev/sda1 -t ext306:34
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ArrenLex(22:31:57) Suitcase of Dreams: Garcia: and that's not "too busy".06:34
bluefox83!WMV06:34
ArrenLexOh my god, I've been on IRC too long.06:34
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:34
ArrenLexI'm using usernames in my MSN conversations.06:34
tuvArrenLex, so are you saying i can repeat my question in the forums?06:34
tuvArrenLex, nm, i'm just bored!06:35
ArrenLextuv: yes, use the ubuntu forums and make a board.06:35
ArrenLex!forums06:35
ubotuThe Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.06:35
Justin_Wattnomasteryoda: how does that change fstab? other than the type? do i still need umask, etc?06:35
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Flanneltuv: you can continue to repeat it here, but do it every 15 minutes or whatnot, obviously no one on at the moment knows the answer.  but yeah, start looking elsewhere, while waiting for people here to know06:35
Poehay alguien aki?06:35
Flannel!es06:36
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:36
echosAnyone had success with Integrated Intel Matrix Storage Technology (RAID) driver for Intel Desktop Boards in Ubuntu?06:36
Poe#ubuntu-es06:36
FlannelPoe: /join #ubuntu-es06:36
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sicarusAnyone able to recommend a good WPA 802.11g PCMCIA wireless card with good linux support?06:37
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sureshotnetgear i think is pretty good06:37
Flannelsicarus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported06:37
cpk1sicarus: the wiki has a list of what works well, what works and what doesnt work06:37
ashafferI searched this a bit, probably just a terrible search since I'm a wee tired here;  What's a good application for burning dvd movies in ubuntu?06:37
sureshotintell 2200bg06:37
MrKeunerhi, A full ports scan with nmap shows that ports 42444 and 48820 tcp are open. Do you guys have any idea whhat they are for? thanks.06:38
MrKeunerand that's localhost with dapper on it06:39
JavaDeveloperhi, I wanna know where is the php executable located in ubuntu? I am using php506:40
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ArrenLexashaffer: you have a random movie file you want to burn to a dvd? Or do you have a DVD image you want to burn to DVD?06:40
PoeThanks Flannel06:40
FlannelJavaDeveloper: "which php5"06:40
ashafferI have a random movie file (.avi, .mpeg...etc) that I want to burn to a dvd to play in any standard dvd player06:41
JavaDeveloperFlannel: somehow I cannot locate that06:41
JavaDeveloperFlannel: it doesn't return any result to me06:41
ArrenLexashaffer: look into dvdauthor06:41
ArrenLex!dvdauthor06:41
cpk1ashaffer: i think first it needs to be in mpeg, and then you would need something to burn it as udf06:41
ubotudvdauthor: create DVD-Video file system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.11-3 (dapper), package size 133 kB, installed size 356 kB06:41
FlannelJavaDeveloper: type "php" then hit tab twice, anything come up?06:41
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JavaDeveloperFlannel: nope...where do I type that?06:42
FlannelJavaDeveloper: a terminal06:42
ArrenLexashaffer: also vcdimager06:42
ArrenLex!vcdimager06:42
ubotuvcdimager: A VideoCD (VCD) image mastering and ripping tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.23-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 514 kB, installed size 1152 kB06:42
ashafferArrenLex: I assumt that's for vcds only06:42
JavaDeveloperFlannel: I was trying to find in /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin, no such command06:42
FlannelJavaDeveloper: Ah, actually.  You probably don't have php5-cli installed, so you don't have command line php.  Why did you need to know the path?06:43
ashafferAwesome;  thanks to everyone for the dvd application06:43
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JavaDeveloperFlannel: I am installing SugarCRM osCommerce integration06:44
JavaDeveloperFlannel: so I go intall php5-cli in synaptic will solve this problem?06:45
FlannelJavaDeveloper: and, why does it need to know the path?  shouldn't it run through apache?06:45
JavaDeveloperFlannel: I have no idea, the installation guide said so06:45
Skarrhow do i view the fieltype06:45
Skarrso that like06:45
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SkarrWolfensteinET appears as WolfensteinET.exe for example06:45
hayden!fstab06:46
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions06:46
Skarron windows, i need it to find the .inf file06:46
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FlannelJavaDeveloper: I... think that's wrong.  since you on't need a command line PHP for apache to use it, and that should go through the apache stuff.  You should double check with them, or whatnot.06:46
jiShlinux doesnt really need extensions06:46
Brokensteincan anyone help me mount the sd card in my tungsten e2? i've given up trying to sync the damn thing06:46
jiShjust right click and look in properties for file type info06:46
FlannelSkarr: linux doesn't hide extensions either, at least... not to my knwoledge06:46
DigitalNinjaIs there a way to edit the gnome menu06:47
XaXXonI'm trying to get the CVS package and it seems to be hanging on us.archive.ubuntu.com.. both with apt-get and synaptic06:47
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JavaDeveloperFlannel: it's a side integration, I guess...so...maybe you are right...but then the project has been there for two years so I guess you are pretty sure about it...probably need an upgrade on that to run from apache though06:47
tonyyarussoDigitalNinja: Yep, it's called "Alacarte menu editor", and is under Accessories.06:47
FarrisGCan anyone help me figure out which package provides the opengl headers? specifically looking for "/usr/include/GL/gl.h" to build mythtv06:47
FlannelXaXXon: us archive might be down, remove the us. from your sources, and try again06:47
Skarrcpk1: which file do i extract06:47
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sivikhi all06:47
Amaranth!x11proto-gl-dev06:47
ubotux11proto-gl-dev: X11 OpenGL extension wire protocol. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.3-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 180 kB06:47
AmaranthFarrisG: that one06:48
FlannelJavaDeveloper: nah, I imagine their installation isntructions are just bad06:48
sivikok, is there a way to fix the /etc/hosts file without being able to do sudo06:48
DigitalNinjatonyyarusson: Thanks! Don't know why I didn't see it06:48
Amaranthsivik: reboot in single-user mode06:48
sivikAmaranth, how do you do that?06:48
FarrisGAmaranth: Hmm. I already have that installed, but the file isn't there06:48
Flannelsivik: reboot, hit escape, at the grub menu (right after the post screen) ad then go to the recovery console06:48
MrKeunerhi, A full ports scan with nmap shows that ports 42444 and 48820 tcp of a dapper box are open. Do you guys have any idea whhat they are for? thanks.06:48
sivikand i can fix it from there06:48
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Flannelsivik: right.  you'll be at a root terminal06:49
JavaDeveloperFlannel: guess so...not user-friendly at all...haha06:49
sivikFlannel: sweet, i knew there was a way to do it, i just couldn't figure it out06:49
Brokensteincan anyone help me mount the sd card in my tungsten e2 so i dont have to sync it?06:49
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Amaranth!mesa-common-dev06:50
ubotumesa-common-dev: Developer documentation for Mesa. In component main, is optional. Version 6.4.1-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 162 kB, installed size 804 kB06:50
AmaranthFarrisG: alright, i know it's that one :)06:50
sivikBrokenstein, must be nice to get your computer to regonize the sd insert06:50
ArrenLex!tell ArrenLex the meaning of life.06:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tell ArrenLex the meaning of life. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:50
ArrenLexWell crap.06:50
ArrenLexDoes gnome have a utility to automagically mount media you insert, like KDE does?06:51
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unfknblvblArrenLex: its 4206:51
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sivikFlannel: ok, that didn't fix it06:51
XaXXonFlannel: I removed the references to the us archive, but now it seems to have nowhere to go?06:51
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Skarri still cant find the .inf or .sys files06:51
unfknblvbllol06:51
FlannelXaXXon: just the us.  so, it's "archive.ubuntu.com" instead of "us.archive.ubuntu.com"06:51
XaXXonFlannel: sorry.  Thank you06:51
unfknblvblhitchhikers guide to the galaxy explains why its 4206:52
sivikok, what does it mean when it says "sudo: unable to lookup computername via gethostbyname()"?06:52
ArrenLexI should read that sometime.06:52
Skarrscrew it06:52
jay_[help]  I am a chinese user, how can i input chinese in Emacs with SCIM input method?06:52
unfknblvblforget the book, watch the movie06:52
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ArrenLexI don't watch movies.06:52
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sivikFlannel: how do i go about fixing it?06:53
briguydunfknblvbl, no, book's better, the movie's alright, but there's nothing like the book06:53
Flannelsivik: did you fix your hosts file?  if it gives you that error, you didn't ;)06:53
ArrenLex#!/bin/sh && kill sdlfsdafjlsdajfa && laugh06:53
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Flannelsivik: pastebin your hosts file06:53
unfknblvblsif book06:53
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unfknblvblthe only thing i read is comics06:53
thehello?06:53
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unfknblvblor a manual06:53
thehullo06:53
Flannelthe: howdy06:53
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theim new to ubuntu06:53
theim on windows new axually06:53
sivikthe: whats the problem?06:54
thehuh?06:54
ArrenLexDoes Gnome have a utility to automagically mount media you insert, like KDE does?06:54
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ArrenLexthe: this is the help channel. What do you need help with?06:54
thesivik... i dint get u06:54
briguydArrenLex, yes06:54
thentn06:54
ArrenLex!tell the about english06:54
sivikthe: do you have a problem or what?06:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about english - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:54
thei js came to meet ya guys06:54
ArrenLexAw.06:54
unfknblvbl({)06:54
marcrosoftevery time i login via ssh to a server of mine, it gives a message about ubuntu comes with no warranty, etc... is there a way to change this?06:54
briguydthe, try #ubuntu-offtopic06:55
ArrenLexbriguyd: thank you. Now, uh, what is it?06:55
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thethx brig06:55
FarrisGAmaranth: :) Already got that one, too, and it ain't there :)06:55
briguydArrenLex, no idea, but if you insert an external drive or USB key or something, it automagically mounts it and opens it in the file browser06:55
briguydthe, no06:55
briguydproblem*06:55
ArrenLexbrig: alright, thanks.06:55
thehow to u leave this room?06:55
QMario_Why does Flash not play sound in Mozilla Firefox in Linux?06:55
the '/exit' ?06:55
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Flannelthe: /part06:56
ArrenLexQMario: because Flash is currently a trainwreck on Linux.06:56
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ArrenLexQMario: do you have alsa-oss installed?06:56
sivikQMario: try installing the flashplayer-mozilla06:56
ArrenLexsivik: he already has flash, the problem is it's not playing sound.06:56
sivikQMario_, there is currently an issue with the flashplugin-nonfree06:56
sivikArrenLex, nvm06:57
Flannelmarcrosoft: it's /etc/motd06:57
marcrosoftFlannel, thanks, ill check it out06:57
XaXXonFlannel: took a while to get everything updated, but that worked.  Thank you06:57
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Leumascan Ubuntu mount NTFS partitions and write to them??06:59
ArrenLexLeumas: yes, but it's dangerous.06:59
ArrenLex!ntfs06:59
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse06:59
ArrenLex!fuse06:59
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse06:59
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Leumashmm, well that's alright06:59
marcrosoftFlannel, that worked great, thanks06:59
Leumasi just got finished formatting my file partitions to FAT32 so i could use XP and Ubuntu07:00
FlannelLeumas: linux can read NTFS perfectly fine and safely, it's just writing thats dangerous07:00
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Leumasi know07:00
Leumasbut it's kinda useless having a main file partition that i can't seem to write to07:00
ArrenLexLeumas: advised not to install Linux on a FAT32 partition. It will eventually corrupt the filesystem. Using it as an auxiliary storage drive is great, though.07:01
ArrenLexLeumas: i.e. make a new FAT32 partition to share files between Linux and Windows.07:01
Leumasthat's what i'm doing. linux on ext3, music and stuff on FAT32, and Windows on NTFS07:01
holzmodemwhich tool can generate a textfile with a tree of my folder structure07:01
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ArrenLexLeumas: then you probably don't want to write NTFS, only read.07:01
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Leumasyeah. i was reading something on Digg that said you could write to NTFS though, and i got confused :-S07:02
ArrenLexLeumas: to mount an NTFS partition read-only, add the following file to your fstab:07:02
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tuvok.. an update on the gkrellm high cpu usage issue. it only happens with the 686 kernel. when booting the 386 kernel cpu usage doesn't exceed 10% !07:02
ArrenLex/dev/<device>       <mount folder>          ntfs    ro,users,umask=000           0       007:02
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Leumasyeah i know about fstab...07:02
FlannelLeumas: NTFS write support is getting close, that might be what you saw.  Still not completely tested though07:02
ArrenLexLemuas: Linux can now write NTFS better than before. But it's still not safe for use.07:02
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tuvanother thing about the 686 kernel: it takes a really really long time to pass the "mounting root filesystem" stage. my root is on sata disk07:03
Leumasso what happens when NTFS writing goes wrong?07:03
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ArrenLexLeumas: the filesystem becomes corrupted.07:03
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Leumasfair enough07:03
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tuvare there any known problems in 686 kernels vs. 386 ones?07:04
Leumasif we knew about them they'd probably be fixed07:04
DiegoHello folks. Anyone up for a couple quick questions about Ubuntu?07:04
sivikFlannel, paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2484907:04
Skarri doubt ill ever get this working07:04
LeumasSkarr: ?07:05
ArrenLexSkarr: get what working now?07:05
ArrenLexDiego: ask away! :)07:05
Skarrthe internetz07:05
MadpilotDiego, just ask, don't ask to ask07:05
ArrenLexSkarr: what happened to the internets?07:05
ArrenLexSkarr: if the pipes are clogged, use a billiard ball.07:05
ArrenLexpipes -> tubes *07:05
Leumas:D07:06
DiegoWell, I'm new to Linux in general. If I back up my current WinXP files on my iPod as a USB drive, will Ubuntu recognize it?07:06
Skarrcnk said that one of the installation files you could extract07:06
Skarrbut i dont know which one07:06
ArrenLexDiego: yes, iPods work with Ubuntu. However, why not just make two partitions?07:06
DiegoAlso, will they work normally? Videos, music and images.07:06
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Leumasyes07:06
DiegoI want to get rid of WinXP.07:06
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MadpilotDiego, for some of the sound & video formats you might need to isntall some codecs, but they should all work07:07
Leumasyou may need some codecs and some programs that don't come with ubuntu, but yes07:07
ArrenLexDiego: for the current state of ipods on Linux check out07:07
ArrenLex!ipod07:07
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto07:07
DiegoI figure if I quit entirely I'll become better with Linux more quickly.07:07
ArrenLexDiego: sure, but can you live without games?07:07
Skarr!d-link07:07
sivikFlannel, did you look at it?07:07
LeumasDiego: Assuming you don't go back to XP07:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about d-link - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:07
Skarr!dlink07:07
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DiegoI only play text-based mmorpgs :)07:07
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dlink - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:07
SoulBlinkI want to delete my old gnome preferences so I can start fresh, what folder(s) do I need to delete?07:07
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unfknblvbl!icons07:08
ubotuWant to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)07:08
unfknblvbl0.o07:08
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DiegoAlso, in various sources that mention Linux apps, it usually says something along the lines of "Try the new [x]  app. -get ewn54k5nnkn:gmrigmn"07:09
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SkarrWhere can i find the .sys and .inf07:09
JbirkHello07:09
Skarr*cry*07:09
JbirkI cannot seem to get nvidia-glx working07:09
Madpilotunfknblvbl, have a look in the various .gnome* dotfiles07:09
ArrenLexDiego: and? o_o07:09
JbirkI currently have ubuntu Dapper 6.06.1 LTS with all the updates07:09
Skarrfucking dlink fuckers07:09
unfknblvblMadpilot: i jsut want to convert .ico file into a .png file07:09
ArrenLex!language07:09
DiegoI don't really know what to do with that, assuming I want one of those apps.07:09
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.07:09
Madpilotunfknblvbl, GIMP can probably do that07:10
unfknblvbli looked @ gimp07:10
ArrenLexunfknblvbl: imagemagick?07:10
JbirkComputer is Inspiron 860007:10
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unfknblvblit doesn't have .ico as one of its loadable files07:10
unfknblvblimagemagick..07:10
sivikcan someone tell me whats going on with paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2484907:10
JbirkVideo Card is NVIDIA Geforce FX Go 520007:10
Skarris a dat file an inf file?07:10
unfknblvbli'll look into it07:10
JbirkHow do I get Open07:10
MadpilotDiego, Ubuntu uses large online repositories for software; it makes things very easy to install07:10
JbirkOpenGL working07:10
bur[n] erunfknblvbl: rename the .ico to a .bmp and open it :)07:10
unfknblvbllol07:10
ArrenLexunfknbdsfjsldjds: apt-cache search is your friend.07:10
ArrenLexicoutils - Create and extract MS Windows icons and cursors07:10
unfknblvbli'll do07:10
SkarrI have two .sys files and no inf files07:10
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DiegoYeah, Madpilot, but where would I type that?07:11
Skarrgaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa07:11
MadpilotDiego, easiest way to install stuff is thru Applications menu->Add/Remove Apps07:11
ArrenLexthrough *07:11
DiegoHm. Alright, I'll give this thing a go.07:12
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Jbirkyeah, but nothing beats07:12
Jbirksudo apt-get install appname07:12
ArrenLexDiego: what are we downloading?07:12
Skarris d-link just too lazy to program a driver for linux?07:12
MadpilotDiego, if you download the 'desktop' CD image, that includes the LiveCD that you can use without touching your XP install07:12
ArrenLexAh.07:12
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JbirkI remember the Live CD07:12
JbirkI tried it once and I guess I clicked install07:13
unfknblvblbur[n] er: you bugger it worked07:13
unfknblvblthankyou07:13
JbirkHaven't seen XP since07:13
load0614hey, how can I turn off write caching for a usb flash drive?07:13
ThurynHello07:13
MadpilotJbirk, no great loss ;)07:13
Thurynout of interest07:13
DiegoWe're downloading what Madpilot said, ArrenLex. :)07:13
bur[n] erunfknblvbl: was there ever any doubt? ;)07:13
JbirkI only use XP at work07:13
ArrenLexDiego: yeah, got it.07:13
unfknblvbla tiny bit...07:13
bur[n] erJbirk: sorry ;)07:13
unfknblvbl^.<07:13
Jbirkha07:13
ArrenLexload: if you mean, how do I use a USB drive under Linux so I can just take it out like I do on Windows, the answer is, AFAIK, you can't. Linux treats devices very differently.07:13
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JbirkAnd Windows 2003 Server07:14
JbirkOh, and Novell Netware 6.5 SP507:14
JbirkIt is yuckey07:14
sivikwhat does my /etc/hosts file need to look like to get past the error "sudo: unable to lookup hostname via gethostbyname()"07:14
unfknblvblArrenLex: you can use a usb device the same as you can do on windows07:14
load0614arrenlex: aside from needing to be unmounted?07:14
bur[n] erserver 2k3 is a bane on my existence... i can't wait till hula is mature enough and i can mass migrate all my clients to use Ubuntu07:14
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new-in-ubuntuhello chanel07:15
Skarryou know what i jsut realized a few secondsa go07:15
Jbirkwhat is hula?07:15
Skarrthe reason im confused isnt cause of linux07:15
ArrenLexload: no, but that's different enough. Linux devices are included into the file system. You can't just... remove stuff from the file system.07:15
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Skarrits cause of windows07:15
JbirkIs that directory services?07:15
ArrenLex!hello07:15
Skarrviva le revolution07:15
ubotuhello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (dapper), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB07:15
new-in-ubuntuI have a quick question, is there an easy way to allow a user to shutdown the computer?07:15
ArrenLex...07:15
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ArrenLexThat didn't work. Ignore that.07:15
bur[n] erhula is an exchange like thing07:15
new-in-ubuntuI have a quick question, is there an easy way to allow a user to shutdown the computer?07:15
ArrenLexnew-in-ubuntu: yes, doesn't gnome offer you the option?07:15
new-in-ubuntuwell yes for the main user07:16
new-in-ubuntubut all of the other users07:16
new-in-ubuntuhave to frist logout07:16
bur[n] ernew-in-ubuntu: put them in a different group07:16
ArrenLexnew-in-ubuntu: behold the magic of google.07:16
Jbirkedit shutdown.allow07:16
ArrenLexhttp://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=linux%20let%20user%20shut%20down%20computer07:16
new-in-ubuntuthank you07:16
Jbirkthat is the easiest way\07:16
new-in-ubuntuwhere might I find the shutdown.allow?07:16
Jbirknot sure07:16
new-in-ubuntuplease excuse my ignorance07:17
Jbirklet me find it07:17
new-in-ubuntuok07:17
load0614arrenlex:  I planned on using a udev statement to unmount when the device is pulled.  At least that was my thought.07:17
new-in-ubuntuthanks for the tip07:17
Jbirkuna momento07:17
mineralewhat's the name of the tool that is used to configure gnome's config ?07:17
new-in-ubuntuI shall look for it07:17
Skarrwhich .sys file to i use07:17
Jbirkin etc07:17
bur[n] erJbirk: is there not a "group" that the user could join to be able to shutdown?  or does it only work with the sudo users?07:17
JbirkI always remember shutdown.allow07:17
bur[n] erer... s/sudo group/admin group07:18
Jbirkhttp://doc.gwos.org/index.php/NonRootShutdown07:18
JbirkREad that07:18
THX-1138gconf-editor   ??07:18
Skarrcpk1: which sys file do i use07:19
Flannelsivik: what's your computers name? (the stuff after the @ at the prompt)07:19
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new-in-ubuntuthank you very much Jbirk07:20
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new-in-ubuntuyou have been very helpful07:20
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sivikFlannel: sivik-laptop07:20
Flannelsivik: you need to append that after the localhost stuff,  recheck your paste: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2485107:21
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Jbirkdon't make everbody admins though07:21
Jbirktoo riskey07:21
Flannelsivik: then save, and reboot to your normal user, you should be fine07:21
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sivikFlannel: but thats how it looks and i'm still getting that error07:21
sivikFlannel: let me try though07:22
Flannelsivik: er, your pastebin didn't include that07:22
Jbirkanybody know how to get nvidia-glx orking07:22
JbirkI didn't see any nvidia logo07:22
Flannelsivik: I changed it to include it07:22
sivikFlannel: sorry, didn't see that07:22
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ArrenLexJBirk: are you using "nvidia" as your driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?07:22
Jbirknot sure07:23
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Jbirkwhat am I looking for in xorg.conf?07:24
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new-in-ubuntuGood Night fellow Penguins, and thank you once again!07:24
ArrenLexJbirk: the line:    Driver     "nvidia"07:24
JbirkI have07:24
JbirkSection "Device"07:24
unfknblvblhow would i rename all .zxy to .abc ?07:25
unfknblvbli tried rename *.zxy *.abc07:25
JbirkIdentifier "NVIDIA Corporation NV34M [GeForce FX Go5200] "07:25
JbirkDriver"nv"07:25
ArrenLexNo!07:25
JbirkBUSID ...07:25
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ArrenLexnv != nvidia07:25
morphiris non free repos for the latest nvidia drivers updated?07:25
ArrenLexnv is the free, non-3D driver07:25
Jbirkokay, so just type nvidia07:25
Jbirkall lower case?07:25
ArrenLexyes07:25
Flannelmorphir: you mean multiverse?  yes.  ubuntu doesn't have "non-free"07:25
Jbirkit is in just one place right?07:26
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Flannelmorphir: or, actually.. I don't know if theyre updated, whats the newest version?07:26
morphirFlannel: yeah, are they updated often07:26
morphir?07:26
ArrenLexJbirk: should be, for a normal setup.07:26
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ArrenLexIf you have a dual-head setup or something equally weird then it'd be different.07:26
Flannelmorphir: 1.0.8762+2.6.15.11-507:26
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morphirFlannel: http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_downloads_linux_display_x86_1.0-9625.html07:27
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tkfuhi07:28
ArrenLex!hi07:28
ubotuHi! Welcome to $chan!07:28
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ArrenLexYay chan.07:28
tkfui followed the instructions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse07:28
unfknblvbl!rename07:28
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rename - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:28
tkfuto get my ntfs partition mounted07:28
morphirFlannel: read *# SLI.*07:28
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ArrenLextkfu: do you want to write to your ntfs partition, or only read from it? Writing is dangerous and can corrupt your NTFS filesystem.07:29
morphirthe new drivers support sli :)07:29
ArrenLexReading is safe.07:29
tkfuand now i get "mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs-fuse'"07:29
tkfuArrenLex, i'm aware of the risks07:29
tkfui wouldn't particularly cry if i lost my win partition07:29
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Jbirkokay07:30
Jbirknow I reboot?07:30
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morphiris it me or are the gfx-manufacturers starting to compete supporting linux, after intel announcing their drivers being open source?07:30
morphiranyways, I like where this are goind07:31
morphir*going07:31
fuzzycan some one help me for a sec with my gfx card?07:31
tkfuso any idea why i'm getting that error message?07:31
tkfui did modprobe fuse07:31
firenxmabye you blew the fuse07:32
Henry_Beanhi, i'm using the default X.org in edgy, it cames with aiglx enabled? just installing beryl should work?07:32
unfknblvbl!mv07:32
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:32
morphirHenry_Bean: it depends, what gfx card do you have?07:33
Henry_Beannvidia GeForce 6200 TurboCache07:33
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ArrenLextkfu: what is the output of 'cat /proc/filesystems'? Pastebin it.07:34
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ArrenLexJbirk: reboot, or restart X, yes.07:34
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Geoffrey2if I need to convert a scanned image into a pdf, what's a good application to handle that...will OpenOffice work?07:35
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morphirHenry_Bean: {if intel then aiglx; if nvidia.ati: then xgl;07:35
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THX-1138Henry_Bean - If it works would you let me know?  same GeForce 620007:36
bur[n] erGeoffrey2: set up a pdf printer... it's easier in kubuntu07:36
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morphirHenry_Bean: you must use xgl07:36
bur[n] erTHX-1138: AIGLX works with your nvidia?  I had to use XGL07:36
morphiraiglx dont work with nvidia AFAIK07:36
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THX-1138"" XGL add compiz and it crashes right away.07:37
Henry_Beanmorphir: thanks, do u know why? do u know if they will support them?07:37
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bur[n] erTHX-1138: using quinn repos?  it's an issue right now... see yer PM07:37
lowfiHenry_Bean, ask in #beryl07:38
MrKeunertcp        0      0 localhost:42444         *:*                     LISTEN     4613/python what does this do? Do I really need it?07:38
THX-1138Coo-l07:38
Henry_Beanlowfi: thanx07:38
morphirHenry_Bean: bc nvidia have not added support for aiglx in their drivers...however they have with the new beta drivers07:38
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bur[n] erHenry_Bean: because it's a binary driver..  only open source drivers are supported via AIGLX... NVIDIA recently released new drivers, so AIGLX or XGL won't be necessary as beryl will run with straight Nvidia drivers07:38
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Geoffrey2bur[n] er, a pdf printer...would that be in the package manager?07:38
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Henry_Beanthanx a lot, people... i was really getting mad with all names issues xD07:39
bur[n] erGeoffrey2: i'm really not sure for gnome... i haven't figured it out... i've done it with KDE...  otherwise, Gimp can make pdfs for the time being07:39
THX-1138THX :)07:39
morphirHenry_Bean: aiglx are open source(and good)...xgl are propriatary(and evil)07:40
Henry_Beanlol07:40
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THX-1138Will aiglx affect WINE/Cedega/CodeWeavers and gaming?07:41
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bur[n] erTHX-1138: XGL will... but I assume AIGLX isn't even being used by you since you have Nvidia07:41
bur[n] erTHX-1138: best bet is to test it ;)07:42
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THX-1138nvm - did you say it isn't needed with the most recent nvidia binary release.07:42
PunjabiFLOYDIANpeople need help installing HP Printer 141007:42
psylmgymanyone got a 32 bit chroot to work, so that u can have 64bit firefox and 32 bit open at once?07:42
bur[n] erTHX-1138: XGL really slowed my PC and broke the vino vnc server so I stopped using Xgl07:42
PunjabiFLOYDIAN!HP07:43
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about HP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:43
morphirbur[n] er: xgl and aiglx are all actually _good for gaming as I heard...bc they allready have intiated the 3D-drivers..07:43
PunjabiFLOYDIAN!Printer07:43
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows07:43
morphirbur[n] er: in other words, it speeds up game init07:43
bur[n] ermorphir: it effectively killed my Call of Duty and War3 that i use via wine and they use OpenGL07:44
ArrenLexPunjabi: http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-PSC_141007:44
PunjabiFLOYDIANhey Arren, thanks07:44
THX-1138Ya-ay! (Oo-ps just trashed a serious image.)07:44
morphiryeah, but who said wine where any stable?07:44
morphirwine sucks07:44
bur[n] ermorphir: wtf man... wine works in X... XGL sucks ;)07:44
ArrenLexmorphir: wine does not "suck". Wine is "beta software".07:44
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psylmgymhey dont bad mouth wine, i got it to run diable 207:45
psylmgymthats pure gold imo07:45
psylmgym=P07:45
bur[n] erand wine kicks ass... i can play a few games, run a few key windows apps (utorrent)07:45
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THX-1138morphir - It has a way to go but at least it is a path without Windows. - heh07:45
morphirwine sucks bc its emulate windows, and native is totally the way to go(like iD sofware does)07:45
psylmgymim thinking about setting it up for dvdshrink, and decrypt07:45
bur[n] erand wine allows picasa for linux (however a bad hack it is, at least i have picture management i like)07:45
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ArrenLexmorhpir: wine exists for when you need applications that don't have any native versions. Are you saying having options is... bad?07:46
bur[n] ermorphir: in a perfect world... however, most things I want to play are made for windows... esp. games07:46
THX-1138It runs WoW and is stable, fonts are troublesome though.07:46
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bsdfoxwow is the worst07:46
psylmgymhahah07:46
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ArrenLexWhy are we all insulting random things?07:47
ArrenLexOxygen is the worst.07:47
First|Bleh!offtopic07:47
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!07:47
ArrenLexI hate breathing. It's for losers.07:47
morphirArrenLex: no, but wine make certain *nix users think that linux sucks for gaming AND OpenGL inclusive07:47
psylmgymdoes eve work in wine?07:47
THX-1138Disable VBO and it becomes usable.07:47
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First|Bleheve works in cedega's latest version.07:47
ArrenLexmorphir: absolutely not. Wine makes sure that certain *nix users think that Linux can actually run SOME games. At all.07:47
JbirkW00t!07:47
ArrenLexAnd that certain *nix users can run programs they need.07:47
JbirkI have had my best Ubuntu day ever07:47
ArrenLexYay woot?07:47
JbirkNot only is Ubuntu the first distro to do 2D graphics for me07:48
archetypoAnyone know Apache config? http://pastie.caboo.se/14914    i can't figure out what's wrong with this.07:48
JbirkToday, I got nvidia-glx working07:48
JbirkIt is sweet07:48
ArrenLexYou're welcome. :P07:48
JbirkScreen savers are smooth07:48
Jbirkthanks so much07:48
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JbirkIt runs my screen saver about 400x faster07:48
Jbirkand it is smooth07:48
Jbirkand bright now07:48
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ArrenLexJbirk: I envy you. I only have 2D.07:48
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Jbirkwhat games can I run07:48
psylmgymu know what has been extermly difficult to get working properly?  xgl+compiz, with 64bit dapper and an ati card07:48
JbirkYou should install 3D07:49
ArrenLexJbirk: trust me, I've tried. =P It's not possible for me.07:49
First|BlehCongratulations. You can play solitaire!07:49
Jbirkwhyu not buy a card07:49
ArrenLexYAY07:49
Jbirkwhy not buy a different video card07:49
ArrenLexJbirk: because I don't have money! xD07:49
morphirbur[n] er ArrenLex : you want to demand native games and software(even if its commercial), encourage ID-software and John Carmac for what they do!07:49
JbirkMy Linux philosophy has been to replace hardware that won't work07:49
psylmgymu can get an agp 5200 for like 25 dolalrs07:49
JbirkI got a different wireless card07:49
JbirkExactly07:49
First|BlehI just bought an ati x1800xt for my 'gaming pc' until the DX10 cards come out.07:49
JbirkI have an FX Go07:49
JbirkPiece of junk07:50
bur[n] ermorphir: i hate ID software games ;)  and i'm not a big gamer... I play Warcraft 3 and that's it07:50
JbirkCame with the laptop in 200307:50
ArrenLexmorphir: I don't demand anything! I want the FOSS community to do everything it can to be a reasonable alternative.07:50
First|Blehthis PC has a geforce 6800 because linux + nvidia = better than linux + ati07:50
psylmgymd3d 10 = the lame07:50
psylmgym=P07:50
JbirkAgreed07:50
Jbirkstay clear of ATI07:50
ArrenLexJbirk: Trust me, if I could, I'd by an nvidia card.07:50
First|BlehATI is much better for windows..but not linux.07:50
ArrenLexOh god. ATI is Satan himself.07:50
JbirkHell even in Windows ATI drivers suck07:50
JbirkIt is a bitch to download drivers from ATI's website07:50
First|BlehTheir cards run a bit hotter than nvidia07:50
JbirkHonestly, that place is convoluted07:50
JbirkThey have radeons07:50
First|BlehBut overall they perform better07:50
psylmgymmaybe AMD will kick their asses into gear?07:51
Jbirkradeon all-in-wonders07:51
Jbirkall-in-wonder radeons...07:51
morphirArrenLex: you dont demand anything from the FLOSS community, you demand from the propriatary vendors07:51
JbirkI love Nvidia07:51
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ArrenLexMorphir: I don't demand ANYTHING. From ANYONE.07:51
JbirkMy desktop has a 7600GT07:51
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JbirkI am buying a 7300GT for another computer that is going to run ubuntu07:51
morphirArrenLex: then use windows07:51
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ArrenLexIt is not my place to demand anything. It is my place to appreciate what is good, try to fix what is bad, and help any way I can.07:51
Jbirkcan you name any game that takes opengl?07:51
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JbirkOh, and videos quit crashing now07:51
ArrenLexmorphir: no. I hate Windows. Why would I use it?07:52
bur[n] ermorphir: ArrenLex take it elsewhere ;)07:52
clearzenwill someone help me with a problem i'm having with ssh?07:52
Jbirkhonestly, I can play 2 Xvid at the same time in VLC07:52
THX-1138Oo-h "Trusted computing" and ati and a cpu manufacturer. got a feeling we ain't seen anything yet. A round of DRM for everyone. muhaha07:52
psylmgymi use windows as little as possible07:52
bur[n] erclearzen: ask the problem07:52
Jbirkno more crash07:52
brendonjthey all a question, if i copy the .deb files from /etc/cache/apt to say a cd if i need to reinstall07:52
brendonjt and do a apt-get dist-update will it grab  the files from there  or download them07:52
First|BlehOh, I got saga of ryzom running perfectly in wine on ubuntu..just in case anyone has actually ever heard of that game.07:52
psylmgymlol, ive heard of it07:52
psylmgymwas it worth the trouble?07:52
clearzenI'm getting this error when I log on to a computer I know to be trusted after I changed the default computer for logon on the network:     RSA host key for 129.123.208.4 has changed and you have requested strict checking.07:53
clearzenHost key verification failed.07:53
ArrenLexbrendonjt: why would you do that? It's less hacky to just run dpkg -i <file> on the .deb07:53
morphirArrenLex: you totally dont hear what I say man! I agree with you in the FLOSS philosphy, but with commercial software I DEMAND!!07:53
First|BlehWell, it's a good game. But then I realized I'm just bored of MMO's in general.07:53
bur[n] erbrendonjt: as long as a cd is in your /etc/apt/sources.list07:53
psylmgymyea i hear that!07:53
First|BlehI've found myself going back to consoles and even picking up a DS and PSP.07:53
psylmgymi love me ds07:53
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ArrenLexmorphir: they are free to make whatever software they want. It is their right, and it is your right not to use it. You have no place in demanding anything. They can do what they want.07:53
brendonjtArrenLex, :what if i copy the files back to the /etc/cache/apt folder  is what i mean07:53
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psylmgymi messed around with linuxds.... its got a a ways to go07:53
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morphirArrenLex: if I buy software, I demand they make it work! enough said!07:54
First|BlehThere's a lot of fabulous games coming out for both the DS and PSP over the next few months. It makes it impossible (for me) to choose just one.07:54
bur[n] erbrendonjt: awwwww... i'm not sure :)  try it and report back07:54
ztganyone know what Bad page state at prep_new_page (in process 'sh', page c1758500) means in /var/log/syslog07:54
sivikhas anyone gotten the newest version of vlc to work (the one that supports wmv3)?07:54
First|BlehThey're releasing two new Tales of games..one for each hand held..both different games. It's like..wtf );07:54
psylmgymthere prolly is more worth per dollar available in the DS07:54
First|BlehYes, there is07:54
psylmgymbut the psp is haute07:54
First|BlehThe PSP is really cheap now though07:54
ArrenLexmorphir: you are free to both buy and refuse to buy that software. By your logic I could buy a toy car and demand it fly.07:55
psylmgymwell07:55
psylmgymwhats it now/?07:55
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psylmgymthats nice07:55
First|BlehThe guy played it once on the plane back from iraq07:55
First|BlehAnd never touched it again07:55
clearzendoes anyone know why the following error would occur on a ssh connection:   RSA host key for 192.168.0.1 has changed and you have requested strict checking.07:55
clearzenHost key verification failed.07:55
psylmgymid buy it just to use the divx capabilities07:55
sivikclearzen: go and clear the RSA host key file07:55
bur[n] erclearzen: rm ~/.ssh/known_hosts07:55
psylmgymfor 10007:55
ArrenLexclearzen: if you trust the computer you're connecting to, clear out your ~/.ssh folder. Their certificate changed.07:55
clearzenI did07:55
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morphirArrenLex: If open source sofware dont work, I dont demand it work, instead I'am free to contribute code fixes and bugreports, or move on with my life :D07:56
First|BlehCheck out ebay..i saw one going for $125 and it had 8 games, a hard case, soft carrying case, etc.07:56
lewixhi guys07:56
sivikclearzen, apparently not07:56
lewixI need a good text editor07:56
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First|BlehOh, and a 1 gig stick07:56
lewixjust as microsoft word07:56
clearzenI'll try again07:56
lewixon gnome07:56
siviklewis: text based or gui?07:56
psylmgymim making sure i have enough for wii07:56
siviklewix: gedit07:56
psylmgymand im saving monney for 2 vacations.. CO, and japan07:56
bur[n] erclearzen: try it with a "sudo rv /home/username/.ssh/known_hosts"07:56
psylmgym=P07:56
lewixjust as MICROSOFT WORD07:56
siviklewix: if you want one like word but not work, install openoffice07:56
bur[n] erlewix: openoffice?07:56
ArrenLexlewix: openoffice.org-writer07:56
First|BlehI'm doing some sports trading to get the money quick. It's easy money. Last year I started with $25 and bought my plasma tv a month later off my winnings.07:56
morphirArrenLex: your analogy sucks.(with toys-->compared with software?)07:56
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lewixalright07:57
lewixthanks07:57
bur[n] erlewix: abiword is not quite as full featured, but it's faster :)07:57
lewixhow do i install it07:57
psylmgymwhat do u mean trading?07:57
bur[n] erlewix: it's installed07:57
First|BlehYou basically bet on who's going to win or lose a game.07:57
ArrenLexmorphir: the object doesn't matter. The point is the same. You're buying SOMETHING knowing full well it won't do what you want it to do, and then DEMANDING that it does.07:57
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lewixdo what do i do07:57
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lewixso*07:57
bur[n] erlewix: applications -> office -> openoffice.org word processor07:57
bur[n] erlewix: and explore your menus ;)07:57
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siviklewix, go into terminal and type oowriter07:57
psylmgymoh oh, gamblin07:58
bur[n] ersivik: dont' tell newbies to open a term ;)07:58
psylmgymfootball spreads?07:58
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morphirArrenLex: ok, then expect would be a better word of choice07:58
sivikbur[n] er, sorry, thats how i learned to do stuff07:58
First|Bleheh, sometimes. i'm not too keen on football.07:58
lewixbur[n] er, cant find it07:58
bsdfoxhow can I get a winxp box to automatically reconnect a network drive (ubuntu samba share) on boot? I always have to enter the password..07:58
ArrenLexchoice of word? :P07:58
lewixsivik, it doenst work07:58
bur[n] erlewix: using ubuntu? or xubuntu or kubuntu?07:58
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clearzenThank you. I had opened that file with nano and deleted the contents. Not the file itself07:58
ArrenLexlewix: what happens if you type 'oowriter' in a terminal?07:58
siviklewix, then you probably don't have it installed07:58
lewixkubuntu07:58
lewixgnome07:58
morphirArrenLex: yeah, what evah107:58
psylmgymah, i know football... if i was gonna bet it would be on football... but i always get screwed when i bet07:58
clearzenThat worked great for me07:58
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First|Bleh;P07:58
bur[n] erlewix: that's backwards... is it kubuntu with kde or ubuntu with gnome?07:59
First|BlehIt takes research07:59
lewixkubuntu with gnome07:59
psylmgymexcept for the first time i went horse gambling07:59
bur[n] erlewix: try "kword" from a term07:59
psylmgymlol07:59
bur[n] erlewix: you're on crack... there is no option... kubuntu with gnome...07:59
ArrenLexburner: OOo is installed by default on kubuntu, I believe.07:59
Geoffrey2bur[n] er, thanks for the suggestion about the pdf printer, I just got it installed07:59
psylmgymi research... its just freak things always screw me over07:59
lewixlol07:59
bur[n] erlewix: if you started with kubuntu but apt-get installed gnome... try "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"07:59
Madpilotpsylmgym, gambling chat to #ubuntu-offtopic, please07:59
psylmgymlol07:59
lewixbur[n] er, well during the boot loading I see kubuntu07:59
bur[n] erGeoffrey2: via package???  how'd you do it?  i wanna konw!07:59
ArrenLexLEWIX: RUN oowriter AND TELL US WHAT HAPPENS, BEFORE YOU TAKE THE RANDOM CRAZY ADVICE.08:00
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lewixcommand no found08:00
Hoxzerwhat couses cp to skip a directory?08:00
ArrenLexlewix: then do this: apt-get install openoffice.org-writer08:00
bur[n] erlewix: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop08:00
Hoxzer"cp: skipping directory"08:00
ArrenLexburner: won't that cause him to install gnome? If he's on kubuntu I assume he doesn't want gnome.08:00
bur[n] erArrenLex: he says he uses gnome ;)08:01
ArrenLexHoxzer: if you want to copy a directory, use "cp -r" (recurse)08:01
bur[n] erArrenLex: might as well have the whole thing :)08:01
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ArrenLexburner: I don't think he knows what he's talking about at this point.08:01
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HoxzerArrenLex: :)08:01
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lewixArrenLex, it's installing08:01
lewixi have to wait08:01
Geoffrey2bur[n] er, the instructions are here.... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188860&highlight=pdf+printer08:01
bur[n] erlewix: in the meantime, you probably have "kword"08:01
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lewixso how come I see kubuntu during the boot loading and im using gnome08:02
ArrenLexburner thinks it's a good idea because burner runs gnome. Arren Lex doesn't run gnome and thinks it's a terrible idea.08:02
bur[n] erlewix: "alt+f2" "kword" and see if it loads08:02
ArrenLexlewix: Are you sure you're using gnome?08:02
lewixcommand no found08:02
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lewixim positif08:02
=== bur[n] er uses xfce, but for people who have no idea... ubuntu is great
clearzenWhich transfer program is faster scp or rsync?08:02
ArrenLexlewix: then you did something weird.08:02
Madpilotlewix, you don't have either kword or ooowriter? What?08:02
lewixlol08:02
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lewixI have both08:02
bur[n] erGeoffrey2: thanks!08:02
lewixgnome and kde08:02
ArrenLexlewix: why?08:03
lewixi don't know08:03
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lewix i don't get it08:03
lewixi thought it was normal till today08:03
ArrenLexlewix: which do you like better?08:03
lewix:)08:03
lewixgnome08:03
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lewixless applications08:03
irc-mode08:03
ArrenLexPFT.08:03
ArrenLexYou can always install kde without the applications.08:03
ArrenLexThe fact that the ubuntu guys stuff them in there is not kde's fault.08:04
ztganyone know what "Bad page state at prep_new_page (in process 'sh', page c1758500)" means in /var/log/syslog my system keeps locking up and I'm wondering if it's a hardware failure08:04
ArrenLexDid you just recently install ubuntu? Because if I were you I would reinstall it.08:04
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lewixlol i installed it a while ago08:04
lewixat first it was ubuntu then it became kubuntu08:04
lewixdont remenber how tough08:04
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ArrenLexThe hell? xD08:04
lewixbut i still have kde and gnome08:04
ArrenLexYou have a transvestite install, lewix.08:04
bur[n] erlewix: try that "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"  that ought to get any missing packages... the boot screen will still say kubuntu, but no worries, you can pick gnome at the login screen08:05
keeblerSup bur[n] er. :)08:05
lewixbur[n] er, i can already pick up gnome08:05
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Adept2point0are there any particular audio/video drivers I need to install to 1) play mp3s and videos and 2) make my resolution higher than 1024x768?08:05
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ArrenLexWe're so bad even the bot can't take us anymore.08:05
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keeblerDoes anyone know where I can obtain the 256bit USPLASH program?08:06
KodeDoes Ubuntu have a software raid on the live cd?08:06
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bur[n] erlewix: even still.. you don't have all the ubuntu packages that make gnome really work well... get the "ubuntu-desktop" package when you can!08:07
lewixalright08:07
JbirkYou know the restricted stuff is the best08:07
lewixwhat do i have to type then08:07
Jbirklast thing I need is a PDF maker08:07
KodeAny one know?08:08
First|Blehhmm..what's that trigger again..08:08
bur[n] erlewix: 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' from a term08:08
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Jbirkany idea how to make a PDF from Linux?08:08
First|Bleh!restrictedformats08:08
Madpilotlewix, install ubuntu-desktop - either thru apt-get or Synaptic08:08
lewixisnt it supposed to updates the ubuntu-desktop everytime that i say so08:08
bur[n] erJbirk: scroll up for a link from Geoffrey208:08
First|BlehGuess not08:08
zoredacheps2pdf Jbirk08:08
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:08
First|Bleh!restricted08:08
zoredacheinstall ghostscript08:08
MadpilotJbirk, lots of ways. OOo will export PDF08:08
bur[n] erlewix: ?  not sure what you mean08:08
bur[n] erJbirk: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188860&highlight=pdf+printer08:08
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Madpilotlewix, it can't update stuff that isn't installed08:08
JbirkI have OO08:08
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Jbirkit is awsome08:08
JbirkI also have printing working08:08
ArrenLexJbirk: just click the pdf button on the toolbar then.08:09
lewixoh true08:09
Jbirkthanks08:09
lewixanyway i did it08:09
lewixthanks08:09
Madpilot!enter08:09
bur[n] erlewix: you're welcome08:09
JbirkThis whole Linux thing keeps getting easier08:09
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bur[n] erlewix: to change yer bootsplash:  http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=2006082013364183108:09
lewixit's alright08:09
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lewixunless i can put a picture instead08:09
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clearzenso, if you are logged in to a ssh session does it automaticallyencrypt your data transfer with programs like rsync ?08:10
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TeePOGmorning all08:11
HoxzerTeePOG: :) morning08:11
JbirkCD Burning works too08:11
HoxzerHmm08:11
JbirkIt has a really cool Nvidia logo08:12
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ArrenLexIt's midnight here.08:12
TeePOGhi Hoxzer :-] 08:12
Jbirkwhat is that about?08:12
JbirkIt is like a splash screen before the Ubuntu login08:12
ArrenLexJbirk: I remember that logo. It annoyed the bajeesus out of me so I turned it off.08:12
clearzenArrenLex: it's midnight here too08:12
ArrenLexJbirk: the line is "Option" "no_logo" "true" I believe.08:12
JbirkI don't mind it08:12
keeblerDoes anyone know where I can obtain the 256bit USPLASH program?08:12
Jbirkit is cool08:12
ArrenLexBut don't quote me on that. Google it if you get annoyed.08:12
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Jbirkis that in the xorg.conf?08:12
ArrenLexYes. In the device section, same place you put nvidia.08:12
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JbirkOh08:13
ArrenLexWhat's with ubotu today?08:13
JbirkI don't mind08:13
JbirkIt shows nvidia supports linux08:13
thenetduckWhen I install programs, It doesnt show up in my applications.. does anyone know how to fix this?08:13
ArrenLexOkay. xD08:13
Jbirkwhy is it that Nvidia Supports linux but ATI doesn't?08:13
thenetduckor why this is happening08:13
Madpilotthenetduck, some apps don't have menu entries08:13
ArrenLexJbirk: because Linux is not a significant share of the video card market.08:13
ArrenLexJbirk: makes business sense.08:13
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JbirkIs that an official driver from nVidia08:13
thenetduckMadpilot... how ... is there a way to make them have menu entries?08:13
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ArrenLexJbirk: yes, the nvidia driver is official.08:13
JbirkWell it is awsome08:14
indrefSweet, I'm in :)08:14
ArrenLexJbirk: there's an official ATI driver too. It is the embodiment of crap.08:14
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thenetduckMadpilot... sorry that was a typo i ment oh08:14
ArrenLexIf crap was a deity, then the ATI driver would be what the followers of crap would draw in their church windows.08:14
clearzenIt might be a stupid question but is data always encrypted with ssh. If you use scp or rsync to transfer data is it still encrypted??08:14
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JbirkWhy do you say it is the epiphany of crap?08:14
indref'Yeah, my nVidia runs pretty nice on my craptop.08:14
Madpilotthenetduck, for gui apps that don't have them, sure. Some apps are designed to run only in terminal, though.08:14
Jbirkhaha08:14
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Jbirkmy craptop has 2 GB ram08:14
ArrenLexJbirk: because it doesn't work!08:14
Jbirkthat sucks08:14
JbirkNvidia is really Linux friendly08:14
indrefJbirk, I hate you :D08:15
JbirkI paid for it08:15
JbirkIt was about $40008:15
Jbirkfor the memory upgrade I did08:15
indrefJesus tits, mine was $50008:15
ArrenLexJbirk: if I install the official 3D ati driver, my glxgears is -- wait for it -- 80 fps. And it skips during rendering too. And on top of that, it breaks my xvideo! It causes random lockups.08:15
ArrenLexCRAP.08:15
thenetduckMadpilot, is there a way to get a program like Dia to get displayed??08:15
indrefFor the whole system :|08:15
Jbirkwhat is xvideo?08:15
indrefI run celestia just fine.08:15
thenetduckMadpilot because thats the one and its a GUI app...08:15
Madpilotthenetduck, yes - I'm surprised it's not, actually.08:15
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JbirkMy craptop used to lockup when I would accidentally play a video more than once08:16
ArrenLexxvideo accelerates video output. Like when you play a movie. It's an overlay rendered by hardware, so your software doesn't actually have to render the movie.08:16
JbirkI would dobule click and it would lockup08:16
Madpilotthenetduck, Applications->Accessories->Alacarte Menu Editor08:16
Jbirkif I clicked too many times08:16
indrefHeaven forbid you do that Jbirk.08:16
JbirkI understand that08:16
JbirkWell it used to crap out on me08:16
ArrenLexJbirk: that's why if you try to take a screenshot of a playing movie using print screen and then paste it into paint, you just get a blank square.08:16
thenetduckMadpilot ok08:16
JbirkLinux was still running08:16
JbirkI could ssh in08:16
Jbirkbut nothing on the screen would ever change08:16
indrefI have a small glitch with my touchpad.08:16
thenetduckMadpilot is that the same as right clicking "edit menu" ?08:16
bur[n] er!enter08:16
indrefDamn thing freezes up a little sometimes.08:16
JbirkI could hit ctrl alt backspace08:16
Jbirkkill xorg08:17
ArrenLexburner: I think ubotu abandoned us again.08:17
Jbirknothing but a reboot would revive it08:17
Madpilotthenetduck, yeah, it is08:17
bur[n] erArrenLex: i see that :\  oh well08:17
Jbirknow, it doesn't crash after nvidia-glx08:17
thenetduckok08:17
JbirkI know Arren08:17
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ArrenLex*robot voice* Hi! Welcome to $chan!08:17
Geoffrey2lesse...USB Scanner...should it be auto-detected, or would I likely need to install something?08:17
indrefI need a 3D card test program08:17
Madpilotthenetduck, just put 'dia' in the command box08:17
JbirkI have seen that blank square before08:17
Overandindref: glxgears08:17
indrefI want to see if my card is doing what it should, any suggestions?08:17
Jbirkwhat is glxgears?08:17
Jbirkrun a screensaver08:17
bur[n] erGeoffrey2: try it :)  mine worked with hpijs package i think08:18
MadpilotGeoffrey2, should be auto-detected - start XSane, see if it finds it08:18
ArrenLexglxgears is a simple 3D application used as a troubleshooter.08:18
ArrenLexTry it. In the terminal, enter 'glxgears'.08:18
indrefHmm, they all fine okish, kinda chuggy, a little.08:18
thenetduckMadpilot .. ok I guess that would be the easiest solution?08:18
Jbirkany good linux game?08:18
indrefSo I should just glxgears08:18
Jbirkthat is actually fun08:18
Jbirklike tux racing or something?08:18
JbirkI want to play that one of these days08:18
Madpilotthenetduck, it is - but check bugs.ubuntu.com too, see if anyone's filed a 'dia doesn't have a menu entry' bug yet08:18
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thenetduckok08:19
thenetduckbecause I had used dia before and it always showed up in the menu08:19
indrefHmm.08:19
indrefChuggy, but it runs.08:19
indrefChews up 100% of CPU though :|08:20
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indrefIs that good?08:20
ArrenLexindref, gee, uh, no? xD08:20
ArrenLexindref: run glxheads from the terminal and paste back what it tells you the 3D driver is.08:20
indrefYah, I was waiting for that.08:20
ArrenLexPaste the output of GL_RENDERER08:20
ArrenLexNote that that's heads, not gears.08:20
indrefglxheads: exercise multiple GLX connections (any key = exit)08:21
indrefUsage:08:21
indref  glxheads xdisplayname ...08:21
indrefExample:08:21
indref  glxheads :0 mars:0 venus:108:21
indrefName: :008:21
indref  Display:     0x805e34008:21
ArrenLex!pastebin08:21
indref  Window:      0x380000208:21
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)08:21
indref  Context:     0x807d40808:21
ArrenLexI asked for one line!!08:21
indref  GL_VERSION:  1.5.3 NVIDIA 71.7408:21
ArrenLexONE LINE08:21
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Madpilotindref, I'll unmute you in a minute or two08:21
ArrenLexWhoa, Madpilot is an admin? o_o08:21
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mataharihi08:21
MadpilotArrenLex, ops here lurk. It makes it more fun. ;)08:21
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matahariwhere can i download the beta for edgy eft?08:22
ArrenLex*whimper* I've been a good boy!08:22
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usliguys08:23
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Madpilotindref, you should be OK now - next time, use a pastebin!08:23
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uslii need help to partition in ubuntu08:23
indrefWhat's pastebin?08:23
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Madpilot!pastebin08:23
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)08:23
Madpilotthat ^^^08:23
uslihow to make a partition in ubuntu?08:23
ArrenLex@matahari: indref: run glxheads from the terminal and paste08:23
ArrenLexWhoa, wrong paste.08:24
indrefAnd uh, no hard feelings on the ban/mute, I can see that was my fault.08:24
ArrenLex@matahari: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop08:24
ArrenLexDAMMIT08:24
ArrenLexhttp://www.ubuntu.com/testing/knot308:24
ArrenLexJeez!08:24
ArrenLexSorry, that last link.08:24
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kihaiusli: use fdisk or qtparted or gparted.08:24
matahariand which kernel does it use?08:24
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indrefWhich line, one line, were you after ArrenLex08:24
usli??08:24
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uslikihai: no idea what are those08:24
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ArrenLex(00:20:42) ArrenLex: Paste the output of GL_RENDERER08:25
ArrenLexAs in, the line GL_RENDERER08:25
indrefHey, another noob, hello usli .08:25
kihaiusli: Those are programs you can use to make partitions in ubuntu08:25
uslioh....08:25
indrefGL_VENDOR:   NVIDIA Corporation08:25
ArrenLexTry again. xD08:25
indrefHah, one line, so hah.08:25
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uslikihai: thanks08:25
ArrenLexYeah, it's great, but it's the wrong line.08:25
ArrenLexAnyway, it's enough. It seems you have the official drivers installed.08:25
ArrenLexGod knows why your glxgears is so slow.08:26
bimberimatahari: 2.6.1708:26
indrefGL_RENDERER: GeForce2 MX/AGP/SSE08:26
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ArrenLexYeah, it should be fine. Weird.08:26
indrefHeh, render and vender are only one letter off.08:26
ArrenLexYes, but vendor and renderer are not. :P08:26
mataharibimberi: with support for JMicron controllers?08:26
Madpilotindref, except that it's 'vendor', with an o ;)08:26
indrefI'm only running a very meager machine.08:26
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bimberimatahari: absolutely no idea sorry08:26
ArrenLexindref: it shouldn't matter. If you've got hardware 3D acceleration, your card handles that output, not your CPU.08:27
indref32MB geforce2, 256MB ram, p3 800mhz08:27
indrefTrue. The cpu usage is unusual.08:27
DiegoWhat do Linux people use for music? Winamp?08:27
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indrefI use XMMS08:27
MadpilotDiego, Muine here, but Rhythymbox is good too08:27
screechingcatamarok08:27
indrefAnd totem for streams08:27
DiegoDoes Winamp run? :(08:28
indrefI want a foobar2000 type08:28
screechingcatthru wine it does08:28
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mataharihas anyone of you ubuntu edgy eft knot3 running at the moment?08:28
indrefDiego, I'm telling you now, get XMMS, it's a total clone.08:28
lotusleafmatahari: #ubuntu+108:28
ArrenLexI use mplayer and xmms.08:28
DiegoWine scares me. I guess I'll use whatever is default.08:28
DiegoOh. Clones are nice too.08:28
MadpilotDiego, Applications->Sound & Video -> Rhythymbox Music Player08:28
indrefDiego, You will not notice the difference, I swear it.08:28
screechingcatDiego : Use Amarok and u'll never complain08:28
DiegoI'm on 2% download. :)08:29
ArrenLexIs that the torrent, Diego?08:29
indrefSo, I'm confused.08:29
lotusleafAmaroK > winamp08:29
ArrenLexBecause when I downloaded it a few days ago, I found that the bittorrent was far SLOWER than the standard download.08:29
indrefMy cpu supposedly dies when I run 3D stuff.08:29
screechingcatAmrok > pumped up version of iTunes08:29
indrefAnd yet 3d still runs rather nicely. Ideas?08:29
ArrenLexindref: be happy that it works and don't mess with it? :D08:30
indrefI like bittorrent, share the love.08:30
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indrefArrenLex, Yeah, very good idea.08:30
=== indref is bittorrenting the original Aliens movie right now.
DiegoIt's the HTTP download, ArrenLex, but I'm on third-world-country DSL.08:30
indrefDiego, Yikes.08:30
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ArrenLexYay third-world-countries? o_o08:30
DiegoI can download at 80KB/s today and no faster than 5KB/s the next.08:30
indrefYay for 3MB cable.. that, shock horror, runs at 3MB! :008:31
screechingcatyeah. my bittorent speed is way lower than my download speed too08:31
Diego(Currently at 5)08:31
ArrenLex....sweet baby Jesus. I didn't know numbers went that small!08:31
=== indref can BT at 200kb/s tops
uslikihai: i have installed gparted08:31
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uslibut i cant find the program??08:31
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screechingcatsystem > administration > gparted08:31
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indrefSomeone help out usli, I don't know how to do what he wants, but he reminds me of me a lot.08:32
indrefGive the noob a hand :D08:32
usliheheheehe08:32
screechingcatusli : system > administration > gparted08:32
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uslihiks hiks08:32
usli:(08:32
uslialready found it08:32
indrefBlinker, amen.08:32
uslithanks anyway08:32
indrefBlinker, How much do you seem.08:32
indrefseed even08:32
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Blinkerindref: i don't use bittorrent08:33
indrefAh.08:33
indrefBlinker, May I ask why not?08:33
screechingcatso which is the best BT client for linux ?08:33
Flannel!best08:33
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.08:33
screechingcatlol08:33
ArrenLexxD08:33
indrefI use bittornado, works, but it's too simple.08:33
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ArrenLexThe people here have developed reflexes.08:33
Blinkerindref: I have no reason to.08:34
indrefBlinker, Fair enough answer.08:34
screechingcati use wine + utorrent08:34
ArrenLexI myself also use btdownload.gui08:34
MadpilotArrenLex, we're all hooked on the bot ;)08:34
indrefFlannel, You are my new hero.08:34
ztganyone know what "Bad page state at prep_new_page (in process 'sh', page c1758500)" means in /var/log/syslog my system keeps locking up and I'm wondering if it's a hardware issue08:34
Blinker;)08:34
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Flannelindref: er, I'm not sure I deserve that.  but, sure.. why?08:34
usliback again08:35
uslihm...08:35
ArrenLexztg: I don't think any of us know how to help you, but doing a quick google search, I found a lot of results that seem to match your error.08:35
ArrenLexhttp://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=Bad+page+state+at+prep_new_page&btnG=Search&meta=08:35
ArrenLexAny chance any of those might help you?08:35
indrefFlannel, the dict lookup on 'best'. Just perfect. :D08:35
lewixnight' guys08:35
lewixby the way does someone code in C in here08:35
ArrenLexBash, baby.08:35
indrefI need to learn c, uh huh.08:35
Flannellewix: lots of people code C in ##c08:35
lewixi know08:36
lewixbut few of damn are pure newbie08:36
uslihow to resize the existing ext3 ?08:36
indrefI'm having touchpad problems.08:36
screechingcatHey anyone kno were i can get edgy cds ? like shipit ?08:36
lewixim a pure newbie a i want to work in a project to improve. It's rare to get involved in a project as a newbie :)08:36
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indrefscreechingcat, I don't think they are doing that yet, are they?08:36
Blinkerindref: as in tapping while typing?08:36
ArrenLexusli: I believe gparted will let you do that. If you're trying to resize the partition you're running Linux on, though, you'll have to do it from a livecd.08:36
indrefBlinker, As in freezing now and then.08:37
Blinkerah08:37
screechingcatindref : they arent doin it even after final release08:37
mataharihas anyone of you ubuntu edgy eft knot3 running at the moment?08:37
kihaiAnyone knows if it's possible to change the loglevel of sshd so that it logs also the times when users log out into auth.log?08:37
ArrenLexlewix: pick your favourite application and help out if you can!08:37
indrefscreechingcat, Ooh, weird.08:37
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lewixArrenLex, the point is I can't :P)08:37
ArrenLexWhy?08:37
lewixits beyond my level08:37
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screechingcatindfre : and my dl speed sucks too bad to get 700mb isos08:37
lwarimavsalut  tous08:37
indrefscreechingcat, I hear ya.08:38
lewixlwarimav, ubuntu-fr08:38
ArrenLexYou can always help out. I don't know c from z from q, but I help out by submitting bug reports and helping others with applications.08:38
indreflwarimav, G'day08:38
bur[n] erlewix: launchpad.net bugs.gnome.org  even newbs can contribute :)08:38
ztgArrenLex: None of the google results are conclusive, some hint at memory failure others at kernel issues08:38
uslithat's mean i have to use my live cd to resize my current hd ?08:38
ArrenLexEveryone contributes what they can, and everyone gives what they can.08:38
lwarimavwhat is ot anyway?????08:38
ArrenLexIt's communism.08:38
screechingcatusli : i think so08:38
indrefYay for commies! :D08:38
ArrenLexztg: well, are you sure your RAM is good?08:39
uslioh...08:39
lewixthnaks guys08:39
lewixanyway i got to go08:39
uslibut the live cd dont have the gparted rite?...08:39
ArrenLexSee you, lewix.08:39
lewixi have an early class tomorrow08:39
bur[n] ercommunism without supply and demand as there is an endless supply08:39
screechingcatusli : but i dont guarantee that u wont lose ur data08:39
ArrenLexburner: there is definitely a very finite supply of labour.08:39
screechingcatusli : it has gprted alright08:39
ztgmemtest86+ had no errors, we're swapping out memory now08:39
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usliok...08:40
uslithanks08:40
bur[n] erArrenLex: i'm referring to the fact that if someone else decides to use linux, another person doesn't have to sacrifice08:40
bur[n] erArrenLex: code is easily copied and reproduced08:40
indrefbur[n] er, Yup, it works because there is no shortage.08:40
kihaiusli: But even if it hadn't you could easiliy install it with aptitude; even from the live cd08:40
BlinkerArrenLex: where are you from? i could go for a nice job market08:40
ArrenLexburner: Well sure. The code is shared amongst the community, just as physical goods are in communism.08:40
Blinker=p08:40
screechingcatusli : no need. gparted is built into the installer08:41
ArrenLexBut to create the code, people have to put in labour.08:41
usliok08:41
ArrenLexYou can make infinite copies of what you already have, but to produce new goods, you need lavour.08:41
uslii try it first08:41
kihaiAnyone that knows sth. about ssh and / or auth.log ?08:41
ArrenLexAnd labour, too.08:41
ArrenLexBlinker: Canada.08:41
indrefLabour is free baby.08:41
uslimy office required me to keep the windows08:41
Blinkerah,pff...headin there anyway08:41
bur[n] erexcept physical goods are finite and one person has to sacrifice for another... if you have 1 bread and two people... both people can't have 1 bread... 1 linux and two people, both can have linux08:41
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uslibut it already use the whole disc08:41
ArrenLexindref: labour is not free. The programmers have to feed their families, you know. That means they need some sort of return.08:41
uslibut i08:41
bur[n] eronly place where communism works well ;)  otherwise Che was a fool08:41
screechingcatusli : reinstall ubuntu. this time, leave a little space untouched08:42
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ArrenLexThe only place where communism works well is where it's voluntary, burner.08:42
indrefArrenLex, True, but think of all the work that goes into video games. No kid ever gets a return from that.08:42
ArrenLexindref: the reward for kids is fun.08:42
screechingcatArrenLex : communism in China aint vountary08:42
Flannel!offtopic08:42
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!08:42
indrefArrenLex, The reward for the programmers is fun too.08:42
ArrenLexscreech: and that's why it doesn't work very well.08:42
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ArrenLexindref: yes, of course it is. But programmers also need to feed their kids.08:43
ArrenLexI know that if I were a father, feeding my kids would definitely be above fun on my agenda.08:43
bur[n] erso... anyone using exaile yet?08:43
screechingcatArrenLex : but china is still the fastest grwoin economy in the world08:43
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bur[n] eri can't get podcasts to work with it08:43
indrefArrenLex, As far as I know, and feel free to correct me because I'm new to linux, but I thought that linux was done on the side.08:43
butleR`Is it possible to install windows under another partition while having ubuntu installed?08:43
ArrenLexscreechningcat: yes, because they're adopting "red capitalism". Wikipedia it.08:43
wols_screechingcat: but china is not communism in any way. in fact it's one of the worst capitalist countries08:43
screechingcatok will do08:43
ArrenLexindref: sometimes it is, and sometimes it is not. It depends on the developer's needs and contributuins.08:44
Flannelguys, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic08:44
Madpilotindref, not always - Canonical - the company behind Ubuntu - has about 90 people on the payroll.08:44
ArrenLexcontributions.08:44
screechingcatwols : now thats a new view08:44
ArrenLexOkay, yeah, that's enough. Sorry.08:44
bimberiplease08:44
screechingcatyeah stop08:44
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Flannelno. no need to stop, just take it to #ubuntu-offtopic08:44
indrefArrenLex, I see. I always thought that programmers did their paymoney jobs, and then did linux for fun when they could.08:44
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ArrenLexindref: /join #ubuntu-offtopic08:44
skwashdhi all08:44
indrefSupport only in here eh?08:45
skwashddoes anyone know how to make a powerbook 3G lombard network boot ?08:45
indrefI can deal with that. :D08:45
indrefI still need help with my touchpad!08:45
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bur[n] erindref: que pasa?08:45
Flannelindref: you can be in both ;) but yeah, with 800 people, this can't be a chat room ;)08:45
indrefMy touchpad is moody.08:45
ArrenLexindref: what was this question again?08:45
bur[n] er!define moody08:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about define moody - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:45
ArrenLexFlannel: the problem is only about 10 of those are ever talking.08:45
bimberiskwashd: i think there is a key sequence you hold down at boot (but have no idea what it is though)08:45
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indrefIt freezes at very random times for very short periods of time.08:45
skwashdbimberi: c is for cdrom :)08:46
FlannelArrenLex: You apparently aren't here during the busy times.08:46
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indrefLike, ten seconds or so.08:46
butleR`Is it possible to install windows under another partition while having ubuntu installed?08:46
skwashdi tried n for network and it didn't seem to work08:46
skwashdneither did p for pxe08:46
bimberiskwashd: yes, that much i know too :)08:46
ArrenLexFlannel: no, I've been here during busy times. Was 911 people during the day today. I assure you I wasn't holding any communism chats then.08:46
indrefbutleR`, Dual boot.08:46
ArrenLexIt's quiet right now, so I'm relaxing a bit.08:46
screechingcatbutleR : look it up on ubuntuforums08:47
ArrenLexbutler: yes, of course. If you install windows first and then install ubuntu, it will detect it and set you up properly, so you pick at boot which you want to run.08:47
skwashdbimberi: i tried ##apple first but it was dead08:47
skwashdand my ppc questions in #edubuntu went unanswered08:47
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butleR`but i don't want to lose all of my progress in ubuntu08:47
bimberiskwashd: could be the N key from what i'm getting08:47
ArrenLexSorry, indref, I don't have a laptop. Don't know how to help you.08:47
indrefbutleR`, You won't/08:47
skwashdand google has been pretty useless08:47
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screechingcatapple users use IRC ?08:48
screechingcat*shocked*08:48
indrefArrenLex, Meh, you replied to my question, that's all I can ask. :D08:48
bimberiskwashd: yes i saw the #edubuntu q but shrugged :|08:48
indrefWait, there are apple users online now?08:48
cafuegoskwashd: netbooting a mac? Hold down 'n'.08:48
ArrenLexindref: really, man, join #ubuntu-offtopic.08:48
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cafuegoskwashd: (and keep holding it!)08:48
indrefArrenLex, I'm waiting for help on my touchpad..08:48
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ArrenLexYou can be in more than one channel.08:48
ArrenLexWhat program are you running?08:49
cafuegoskwashd: Note that you need to have a wee tweak in the dhcpd.conf08:49
indrefArrenLex, Can be.08:49
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screechingcatindref : try #ubuntuforums08:49
indrefArrenLex, XChat.08:49
ArrenLexI'm pretty sure you can be in more than one channel with XChat. Come, join us!08:49
skwashdcafuego: i tried that ... it comes up stage 1 ... l for linux c for cdrom08:49
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indrefscreechingcat, I posted there, no reply. but it is a forum, so I'm giving it time.08:49
Madpilotindref, just type /join #ubuntu-offtopic, XChat will open another tab for you08:49
indrefArrenLex, Well, ok.08:49
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cafuegoskwashd: Did you tell the dhcp server to allow bootp?08:49
butleR`indref : You know where I can find a tutorial? Just got off of work and need to get this done fast.08:50
skwashdcafuego: i will hop back onto #edubuntu as it is more relevant there08:50
screechingcatindref: once it goes topside nobodu's even gonna see it08:50
indrefbutleR`, It would not be fast.08:50
skwashdbimberi: thanks for the help08:50
butleR`I've got a couple of hours08:50
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indrefbutleR`, If you check out ubuntuforums.org, you will find a tutorial, I'll put money on it.08:52
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screechingcatbutleR : i'll put my house on it08:53
Flannel!tell butleR` about dualboot08:53
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FlannelbutleR`: if youre installing windows second, you'll need to restore grub after installing windows,08:53
Flannel!tell butleR` about grub08:53
Flannelfirst link there08:53
butleR`Ty.08:53
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ArrenLexHello, I need help with YOUR MOTHER.09:02
ArrenLex....sorry.09:02
indref:D09:02
ArrenLex*tiptoes away*09:02
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sq377Does anyone know how to use "gpsfetchmap.pl" (gpsdrive map download script)09:03
lastnodeArrenLex, please observ the CoC in here.09:04
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sq377is anyone in here experienced in gpsdrive?09:05
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lastnodesq377, you're better off finding a specific channel. try #hardware?09:06
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sq377alright thanks09:06
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nacerhi09:07
lastnodesq377, someone in here may have an answer too, so hang around ad see09:07
lastnodenacer, hi09:07
ArrenLex!hi09:07
ubotuHi! Welcome to $chan!09:07
sq377I planned to09:07
ArrenLex...by the way, shouldn't someone fix $chan?09:07
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t3nxthow can i change from kubuntu to ubuntu?09:07
sq377I'm trying to use the map fetch script in it but it just quits09:07
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t3nxt(i like ubuntu more)09:08
bur[n] ert3nxt: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop09:08
indrefbur[n] er, Yikes, it's that easy?09:08
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ArrenLexburner: shouldn't he uninstall kde and associated applications?09:08
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bur[n] erindref: even easier... alt+f2, type "xterm -e sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"09:09
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bur[n] erArrenLex: that i leave to them ;)09:09
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screechingcatnever use apt-get for desktop09:09
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t3nxtwhy is that?09:09
screechingcatif u want to remove anything, u'll be screwed09:09
lastnodet3nxt, sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop09:10
screechingcatuse sudo aptitude ubuntu-deskto09:10
bur[n] erscreechingcat: ?09:10
ziro01sup?09:10
bur[n] erwhy would you be screwed?09:10
lastnodebur[n] er, aptitude handles deps better09:10
ziro01that's a secret09:10
Thurynhi09:10
Thuryninvestigating09:10
Admiral_Chicagoi used apt-get to install kubuntu and it was fine09:10
screechingcatapt-get dosent remove dpendencies09:10
bur[n] erhow are they so different, i've used apt-get for years successfully09:10
screechingcatinstalling is fine09:10
lastnodewhoa magic netsplit09:10
TeePOGwheeeee09:11
sq377woah09:11
screechingcatwth ?09:11
bur[n] erok... so when they ask to remove, then we'll tell them about aptitude ;)09:11
t3nxtwhat should i use then?09:11
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MadpilotGiant netsplit. Cool.09:11
bur[n] ert3nxt: they do the same thing effectively09:11
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screechingcatnope, only when u install with aptitude it removes with aptitude09:11
lastnodeMadpilot, aye09:11
screechingcatnot again09:11
michael_morning09:11
sq377woah their back09:11
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bur[n] ert3nxt: third option, you could use adept ;)09:11
screechingcatnope, only when u install with aptitude it removes with aptitude09:11
t3nxtremove what?09:12
t3nxtkde stuff?09:12
screechingcatHOLD09:12
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screechingcatyes09:12
michael_i have trouble on getting my brother hl2030 laser printer to work09:12
lastnodemichael_, "trouble" is not a helpful support request. please be clear when you ask09:12
michael_i do everything fine with the http cups interface but at the end cups is asking for a password09:12
t3nxtok... so if i want to remove all kde stuff and get ubuntu(gnome stuff) i should aptitude09:12
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michael_and i don't know any password09:13
michael_for example the root password or my user password is not accepted09:13
lastnodet3nxt, no. that's not what screechingcat was on about. :-) just use sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop, it will make removing that meta package easier.09:13
bur[n] ermichael_: have you tried just the gnome interface?  or kde interface?09:13
lastnodet3nxt, removing kubuntu desktop completely is going to be a bit of a hassle for you. id just keep it.09:13
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DiegoSo where does the money for mailing tons of free CDs come from?09:14
ArrenLexmichael: http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Brother-HL-203009:14
ArrenLexDoes that help?09:14
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michael_bur[n] er, i tried it and i get an hl2030 driver but i was not able to print a test page09:14
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lastnodeDiego, non support related questions in #ubuntu-offtopic please.09:15
DiegoOh, sorry.09:15
bur[n] ermichael_: i wish i knew more... printers and ubuntu are not my strong suit... i never print09:15
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michael_bur[n] er, ok ;-)09:16
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ootputhi guys, are there any gui frontends that are capable of simple dvd->mpeg4 (xvid, divx, etc) compression?09:21
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ootputsomething that includes dvd rip09:21
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sq377ootput dvdrip is a gui I thought, but you might want to try acidrip09:22
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sq377Ubuntu cannot seem to estimate the time left in my battery... it keeps telling me I have -1 minutes left and I should plug in (14%)09:22
ootputsq377: aptitude listed a (non-existant) dependency when i tried to get dvdrip09:22
ootputsq377: thanks, i'll check it out09:22
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sq377left: heh, I just plugged in, but the error still makes me laugh09:23
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cpk1argh been trying to connect my desktop and laptop wirelessly but no matter what i do they cant seem to be able to even ping each other09:32
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cpk1!dhcpd09:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dhcpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:34
spasmodocpk1: is there a firewall?09:34
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lastnodeide with python syntax highlighting, anyone?09:35
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wols_SPE, wingide, etc09:35
wols_go to python.org and look on their IDE page09:36
zaggynlcpk1, have you tried fixed IP adresses?09:36
lastnodethanks wols_09:36
wols_ah yes, eric3 too09:36
wols_SPE and eric3 are Free09:36
cpk1hrmm, what i did was i brought my kubunto wlan0 up as 192.168.10.1 and tried setting the windows box to 192.168.10.13009:37
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HazarathCan figure out how to change my screen color depth, help please.09:38
lastnodewols_, i settled for kate. i just wish there was a kate equivalent written in gtk ;-)09:38
cpk1firewall is off in the windows box09:38
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spasmodocpk1: both can ping the router?09:39
cpk1lastnode: gedit?09:39
cpk1spasmodo: there is no router09:39
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cpk1just the 2 boxes with wireless09:39
lastnodecpk1, gedit doesnt have the nifty function widgets etc (in kate you can + or - to hide a function, i love that)09:39
HazarathColor depth problems, help please.09:39
spasmodocpk1: can they both ping another IP address?09:40
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cpk1spasmodo: they arent connected to any network, i just want them to see each other wirelessly09:40
spasmodocpk1: aah, ad hoc09:41
cpk1and end up transfering files, but first they need to communicate =\09:41
Hazarathcpk1, can ya help me? Kinda pressed for time, heh.09:41
wols_!tell Hazarath about ask09:41
HazarathOk, I'll ask again, sorry.09:42
HazarathI'll just re-phrase...09:42
cpk1spasmodo: any ideas?09:42
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spasmodocpk1: sorry, I can't help you there09:42
wols_dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:42
HazarathHow do I change my color depth?09:42
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spasmodocpk1: no exp with device to device (ad hoc) networks, sorry09:43
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spasmodoHazaroth, do you have a graphics card?09:43
cpk1spasmodo: alright, well now at least i know to say i am trying to do ad-hoc09:44
spasmodoHazaroth, is it set up?09:44
HazarathGeForce 5200, FX, ya.09:44
wols_cpk1: are they on the same channel. Do you have all kinds of encryption and access control disabled (only for the initial testing)?09:44
spasmodoHazaroth, funny, same card I have09:45
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spasmodoHazaroth have you edited the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?09:45
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Hazarath..wha?09:45
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cpk1wols_: i think part of the problem is one of the boxes is on windows so i dont quite have as much control on that09:45
lupine_85ctrl+alt+kv_+ and ctrl+alt + kp_down09:45
Hazarathspasmodo, it works, just when I try to run SL via Cedega, it says I got the wrong color depth.09:46
lupine_85Hazarath: use the linux client.... :D09:46
Hazarath..where?09:46
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lupine_85on the SL site somewhere09:46
HazarathHold on, lemme search.09:46
lupine_85#'download', I'd imagine09:46
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wols_cpk1: you do have the same amount of control as in linux unless you use the compiler09:47
spasmodocpk1: I have not read this, but it might help:09:48
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spasmodohttp://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t453699.html09:48
HazarathHow do I install via a archive?09:49
cpk1spasmodo: thanks, reading a forum post right now, iwconfig doesnt seem to pay attention to me when i tell it what essid to use09:50
cpk1i set the essid with iwconfig but when i do iwconfig it still says essid off/any09:50
HazarathOk, how do I install a app that comes in the form of an archive?09:51
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cpk1oh, nevermind guess i had to change it to ad-hoc first heh09:51
spasmodocpk1: does your network show up with 'iwlist scan' ?09:52
visik7does ubuntu kernel support inotify and locate with the support of it ?09:52
spasmodocpk1: good, is it working?09:52
cpk1spasmodo: still havent touched the winbox yet =P09:52
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HazarathHelp installing via an archive, please... how do I do it?09:53
carlesWuenas a todos09:53
cpk1spasmodo: but iwlist scan doesnt bring up the essid that this box is using09:53
lotusleafHazarath: what do you mean in the form of an archive?09:53
Hazarathbz209:53
cpk1not sure if it should either09:53
lotusleafHazarath: tar xjf filename09:53
lotusleafHazarath: then go into the created directory, read the INSTALL and README files09:54
lotusleafHazarath: then, most likely you will ./configure && make && sudo make install09:54
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cpk1spasmodo: i think i just got it too work!09:54
spasmodocpk1: sweet09:54
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cpk1spasmodo: they can ping!09:55
spasmodocpk1: good job09:55
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cpk1now, this is kind of embarrasing but, the problem seems to be it wasnt set to ad-hoc =X09:55
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spasmodocpk1: I would rather be embarrassed with a working solution than frustrated :d09:56
spasmodogood night all09:57
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lotusleafHazarath: then after you sudo make install a package, you can make clean to free up space, keep the directory around so you can uninstall whatever program you installed later with sudo make uninstall09:57
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lotusleafHazarath: or just replace sudo make install with sudo checkinstall to make and install a .deb package after which you can remove the directory09:58
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lotusleafHazarath: that is, if you have checkinstall installed (sudo apt-get install checkinstall)09:58
Hazarathlotusleaf, may I PM you? Room clutter is confusing me. @_@09:58
lotusleafHazarath: instead of PMMing me, why not /join #ubuntu-offtopic ?09:59
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Hazarathlotusleaf, Nevermind, I'll try the fourms, or somethnig... all this is confusing me. Hence my asking.10:00
lotusleafHazarath: my instructions were simple enough, very well, good luck. :)10:00
SaintNhmmm10:00
SaintNif he cant understand ur instructions, how is he going to survive?10:00
lotusleafHazarath: and/or perhaps someone else can help you in here10:00
lotusleafSaintN: people learn/interpret things differently10:01
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spasmodoHazeroth: - Try this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_compile_.deb_files_from_source10:02
spasmodogood night for real10:02
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harryhow do i enlarge the spreadsheet of openoffice.calc?10:09
fulat2kanyone knows why i'm not able to extend a volume group in ubuntu lvm?10:09
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fulat2ki've done pvcreate, but vgextend rootvol /dev/hdd8 says that it can't determine that /dev/hdd8 is a physical partition.10:10
deep__HELLO!10:10
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XaXXonhow can I get an xscreensaver running as my background?  (in xgl or otherwise)10:11
harryhow do i enlarge the spreadsheet of openoffice.calc?. the spreadsheet is too small for my viewing10:11
XaXXonharry: get a bigger monitor?10:11
rum_topfharry: how about view, zoom10:11
XaXXonthat's probably a better answer10:12
rum_topfhehe10:12
NET||abuseHi, i'm cat'ing out files in a dir and greping for a particular code, how can i show what files are getting hits10:12
harryXaXXon. yeah that'll help. i mean is there any settings??10:12
NET||abuseso for eg. i'm doing "cat * | grep US123481934"10:12
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XaXXonharry: what rum_topf said10:12
ootputfulat2k: it's been a while since i last used lvm(2), but shouldn't you be adding hdd8 to the physical volume, rather than the volume group?10:12
NET||abuseI get 3 rows back from my data files, but i don't know what files thyere in???10:12
harryrum_topf: isnt that at the preview?10:12
XaXXonNET||abuse: -H?10:13
harryrum_topf: thanks. i found it10:13
rum_topfharry: good10:13
harryXaXXon: never mind. i found it10:13
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NET||abuseXaXXon, on which one? grep or cat, and even then, grep will strip out the output no?10:13
XaXXonNET||abuse: for grep -- but don't use cat, just grep10:14
rum_topfany wlan specialists here? I can't get an IP for my ra0, read myself silly...10:14
XaXXongrep -H "secret word" *.txt10:14
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NET||abuseXaXXon, OOOOHHHH,,, that's the one :) cheers man :)10:14
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XaXXonNET||abuse: cheers10:15
fulat2kootput: from what i've read, u use pvcreate to create the physical volume and then assign the physical volume to a volume group.  then u redistribute the space to the logical volumes from there10:15
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IceToxHow do I check which ubuntu install I have? (hoary, breezy or dapper)10:20
XaXXonreinstall and check the media first, this time10:20
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XaXXonactually, I don't know..10:20
lotusleafIceTox: press ctrl+alt+f1 and read10:20
lotusleafIceTox: followed by ctrl+alt+f7 to return10:20
IceToxlol... good point lotusleaf :) It's in the /etc/motd ?10:20
IceToxthat's like the only way to do it?10:21
XaXXoncat /it's not in mine10:21
lotusleafIceTox: /etc/issue10:21
delighthi there, does somebody know where dapper saves its samba-passwords ? (smbpasswd -a user)10:21
IceToxI know which I have, but I'm just trying to find out the easiest way to find out which one you have.10:21
XaXXonyeah, in issue10:21
IceToxah that was it lotusleaf :)10:21
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IceToxthanks bro10:21
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lotusleafIceTox: yw10:23
delightin other distros its in /etc/samba/smbpasswd but in dapper i siply can't find it10:24
falcon3Does anyone know a great tutorial for Wireless and WPA encryption under Dapper ?10:26
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delightfalcon3 why don't u simply take the network-manager ?10:30
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LiraNunafalcon3, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_Configure_Ubuntu.2FKubuntu_with_WPA_using_Network-Manager10:30
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HaffeHello.10:31
HaffeWould someone care to help me? I have set up a machine as a printerserver (using cups) but none of the clients on the network can print to it.10:32
cpk1hey, i seem to be having a dhcpd problem, the box connected to the box running dhcpd cant seem to hit google10:32
_max_Anyone know where i can obtain old versions of K/Ubuntu ? im looking for 6.06, not 6.06-1, some smartass seems to think a symlink from 6.06 to 6.06-1 is a good idea to rsync to all mirrors.10:33
_max_6.06-1 has a bug in it so it doens't work on our systems, however the "old" 6.06 does.10:33
LiraNunacpk1, have the client's gateway set to the host IP10:33
LiraNuna_max_, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/10:38
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zappeI get a problem sending local mail, "LMTP connection closed after initial connection". What can be wrong?10:38
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acersaleshi when i keep my computer idle for few minutes my network connection drops ? what can be the reason i have checked the wire, when i try to open the System > Administration > Networking it starts again ? ping doesnt brings it back ? ??????? any idea ?10:38
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_max_liranuna; thanks allot!10:38
acersalesit was working fine till yesterday :(10:38
LiraNuna_max_, np10:38
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cpk1LiraNuna: i have done that and both google.com and 64.233.167.99 cant be reached10:38
hichamhello10:38
LiraNunacpk1, try disabling DHCP and try static IP10:38
hichamdoes anybody here uses php?10:38
hichamphpmyadmin?10:38
acersalesapachefriends10:38
hichamyep10:39
hichamwhat do I type10:39
acersaleslittle bit y ?10:39
hichamin the browser10:39
b_52Centosapt-get install vlc10:39
b_52Centosgive nothing?10:39
hichamso that I can access phpmyadmin?10:39
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cpk1LiraNuna: still no luck with dhcpd killed =\10:40
LiraNunacpk1, hmm10:40
acersaleshicham, http://localhost10:41
LiraNunatry to use Ubuntu-ICS10:41
cpk1is there a dhcpd log anywhere? so i can see if i even took a lease out10:41
LiraNunacpk1, you need NAT too10:41
LiraNunahttp://rob.pectol.com/content/view/3/58/10:41
LiraNunadownload and install it10:41
hichamwell the localhost takes me to index.php10:41
hichamwhich I have wrote10:41
acersalesyes there is a link for language ? hicham10:42
acersalesor there is a link to phpMyAdmin on the left side of the screen ? hicham10:42
cpk1also, the client is a windows box, hope that doesnt make a difference10:42
LiraNunacpk1, ifconfig <internet_interface> <gateway_ip>10:42
LiraNunathen10:42
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LiraNunaifconfig <network interface> <network ip>10:43
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LiraNuna./Ubuntu-ICS-install10:43
hichamthere's nothing:s10:43
LiraNunacpk1, i did the same with my xbox 36010:43
hichamacersales10:43
acersaleshicham, what does you index.php shows ?10:43
hichamlook it is a project that I'm working on10:43
hichamit is a normal internet page10:44
hichamI am used to work on the easyphp on windows10:44
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hichamit is the first time that i use ubuntu for my projects10:44
acersalesbut are you using xampp or no ?10:44
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hichamxampp is this for me acersales?10:45
cpk1LiraNuna: but why wouldnt dhcpd normally allow the client to get outside the network?10:45
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LiraNunacpk1, i dont' know - i failed using dhcp too - Ubuntu-ICS does it just fine10:46
LiraNunaafaik, the kernel can do NAT by itself10:46
LiraNunaUbuntu-ICS just enables it10:46
acersaleshicham, do you use xampp ?10:47
hichamwhat is xampp?10:47
hichamno I don't use it I don't know what it is10:47
acersaleshicham, complete package that can be downloaded from apachefriends.org and contains10:48
RedGhostCan someone recommend a good torrent client that supports encryption besides Azureus10:48
acersaleshicham, php 4, 5  mysql , apache , phpMyAdmin and other mysql php tools10:48
hichamI installed them by using the synaptic package manager10:49
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hichamI added the repository and installed10:49
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hichamphpmyadmin, mysql-server 5, php 510:49
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acersalessorry then i dont know much about it10:50
acersalesbut you can do one thing look in the bin files10:50
hichamok man10:50
hichamthanks in all cases10:50
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acersaleshicham, a gui or else download what i said after removing these packages10:50
hichamit is not a big deal but i don't have the time to wase10:50
acersalesone shot and compatible with both linux and windows10:51
acersaleshicham, good luck bye10:51
hichambye10:51
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kyjaI still dont see how I can upgrade to 2.6.18 kernel10:51
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wols_cpk1: does dhcp set your default gateway correctly?10:51
hichamdoes anybody know what is the link to type in the browser to access phpmyadmin?10:51
kyjaI do a forced static10:52
ericshi all, I have been trying to get mail-notification to run imaps (the ssl/tls options are grayed out), i am on dapper and x86_64, the version of mn is 2.0, what do i need to do to get ssl/tls working?10:52
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mAIJKHow do I configure lmtp on my EXIM/Cyrus server?10:52
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wols_hicham: look for something of phpmyadmin under /var/www/10:53
hichamman10:53
hichami replaced the index in www by my index.php10:54
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hichammy page so i lost the link!10:54
wols_what "link"?10:54
PunjabiFLOYDIANpeople i have a problem. i update my kernel.10:54
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hichamthe phpmyadmin10:54
PunjabiFLOYDIANnow GRUB shows two kernels to boot from10:54
PunjabiFLOYDIANhow the hell to corec this10:54
SaintNlol10:54
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wols_PunjabiFLOYDIAN: old kernel and the new kernel? this is not a bug, it's a real feature10:54
SaintNtwo options, uninstall the old kernel10:54
ericsmaybe someone knows a repo with a newer mail-notification version?10:54
PunjabiFLOYDIANLOLZ10:54
SaintNor, just remove it from /boot/grub/menu.lst10:55
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PunjabiFLOYDIANok now u r talking :D10:55
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WhiteDethim about to install Ubuntu10:55
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WhiteDethshould I format the partition as NTFS or FAT32?10:55
SaintNneither10:55
SaintNext310:55
WhiteDethoh?10:55
WhiteDethwill Ubuntu's Live CD do that itself when I install it?10:56
SaintNu going to duel boot with Windows?10:56
PunjabiFLOYDIANWhiteDeth: you need ext3 and swap10:56
WhiteDethyes10:56
WhiteDethI have a 20GB partition with Vista on it as well, im dual booting XP and Vista...10:56
SaintNUbuntus installer will take care of all that for ya WhiteDeth10:56
WhiteDethso im thinking ill just install Linux on top of the Vista partition10:56
WhiteDethwill that work?10:56
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PunjabiFLOYDIANon top? what does that mean10:56
WhiteDethover it10:56
hichamsome body help me!!!!10:56
WhiteDethvista out ubuntu in10:56
user42vista users, is it crap?10:56
TheSheepI have an i810 card here, and it only uses ridicolusly low resolution and bpp. The man says the card doesn't have its own ram and uses the system's. How do I make it use more?10:56
SaintNhicham - wasup?10:57
WhiteDethit is crap -_-10:57
PunjabiFLOYDIANlol.10:57
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PunjabiFLOYDIANi thought vista was good10:57
SaintNWhiteDeth - boot the ubuntu live cd and tell it to install on the vista partition10:57
TheSheep!i81010:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i810 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:57
SaintNand yes, vista sucks10:57
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PunjabiFLOYDIANSaintN: its easier said than done. he is a newbie.10:57
WhiteDethSaintN: Will it format it as well?10:57
hichami need the link to write in the browser to run phpmyadmin SaintN10:57
SAngeliis there a way to be able to block specific flash animations? It seems that now advertisements moved toward flash so that people cannot block them. Any idea?10:57
orient2000what is Vista?10:57
mekberhello there testing10:57
PunjabiFLOYDIANLOL10:57
PunjabiFLOYDIANhere comes a cool guy. tel him what Vista is10:58
WhiteDethim a n00b to linux, not to computers.10:58
WhiteDethVista = new Windows.10:58
PunjabiFLOYDIANorient2000: latest Microsoft sucking OS10:58
WhiteDethMicrosoft Windows Vista10:58
SaintNhicham - http://servername/phpmyadmin/10:58
WhiteDethwe're on RC1 now, but im running Beta 2.10:58
WhiteDethBuggier than the buggiest shit EVER.10:58
orient2000oh sh.. sure must be crap, nothing new10:58
PunjabiFLOYDIANLOL. which version u were usign/10:58
kyjaalso vista beta2 sucked for me. then I played with ubuntu10:58
wols_TheSheep: BIOS10:58
WhiteDethim on beta 2.10:58
WhiteDethI only - ONLY got it because I wanted to get a good looking OS, with Aero.10:59
WhiteDethturns out, it's ugly as shit.10:59
WhiteDethalso...then I saw that youtube video of XGL and compiz...10:59
PunjabiFLOYDIANLOL. at least i heard that it looks good?10:59
SaintNstop ur swearing, I never wanna hear vista again :)10:59
TheSheepwols_: bios has set 64k, but the driver ignores that and uses 810:59
WhiteDethso now im hooked into getting myself Beryl and AIGXL10:59
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WhiteDethit looks like crap10:59
WhiteDethits another piece of Microsoft-copying-Apple felony.10:59
wols_TheSheep: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then. and it's 64MB, not 64k10:59
hichamdoesn't work SaintN10:59
SaintNyah10:59
PunjabiFLOYDIANthat is why i say: LInux rocks!11:00
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WhiteDethanyway, so, Ubuntu Live CD will just format the partition as well?11:00
hichamurl not found SaintN11:00
kyjaxp would use 200mb of ram where vista would use over the 1gig of ram I have and it would runn all my 3.4ghz at 100% over heat my laptop until it shut down.11:00
wols_hicham: have you looked in /var/www?11:00
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SaintNphpmyadmin doesnt install itself in /var/www wols_11:00
kyjaI like ubuntu. however some graphics features eat the clock until it over heats. I am careful what screen saver I use.11:01
hichamyes I looked11:01
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wols_SaintN: then there will be no /phpmyadmin/ like you suggested11:01
hichamthere is only the page that I made which is index.php11:01
surfacekyja:  so vista must be provide very good functionality then11:01
SaintNhicham - pm me for help11:01
hichamwols_,11:01
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WhiteDethvista is a direct copy of OSX11:01
SaintNyes there will wols_ coz they mod apache conf's11:01
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wols_hicham: if there is none in /var/www you need to make a symlink from /var/www/ to the place phpmyadmin actually is on disk11:01
mekberMambo every one what is the best IDE under ubuntu for c++, java help11:01
WhiteDeththerefore...it's got a slightly less functioning, if not MUCH worse functioning operating system.11:01
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SaintNno u dont wols11:02
wols_SaintN: suit yourself11:02
kyjaomg I hated vista. the looks are nioce and the features are nice. but what kind of machine do you need? one with 6gigs of ram and 8ghz clock? not to mention the footprint it leaved in your drive.11:02
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hichamok thanks wols_11:03
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WhiteDethYeah, mine's a 12GB install.11:03
kyjabackwards compatibility is sometimes a pain in the butt also.11:03
wols_hicham: if it actually modifies the apache config, you could also dpkg-reconfigure it11:03
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TheSheepwols_: yay! found the other memory setting in bios, and it helped, thanks a lot!11:04
kyjaI am pleased with ubuntu, even if I still dont have it 100% setup corectly yet.11:04
PunjabiFLOYDIANkyja: ubuntu rocks11:05
tarzeauhttp://www.linuks.mine.nu/rockstone.jpg11:06
PunjabiFLOYDIANguys can anyone help me regarding GCC11:06
kyjaIf I can figure out graphics settings for my ati x600 so that some of those graphics dont run my lappy in the ground. and get my wifi at 54g I will be all set11:06
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kyjayes it deos. very fine os.11:06
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PunjabiFLOYDIANpeople anyone knows GCC here?11:06
MadpilotPunjabiFLOYDIAN, it would help if you asked a more specific question...11:07
SaintNnot entirely11:07
kyjadont know for sure PunjabiFLOYDIAN11:07
PunjabiFLOYDIANwhich format does GCC follow?11:07
PunjabiFLOYDIANi mean. i wrote a simple C++ program.11:07
PunjabiFLOYDIANit doesnt compile11:07
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PunjabiFLOYDIANwhat is the command to compile using GCC11:07
Juhazgcc is c compiler. use g++11:08
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PunjabiFLOYDIANoH HELL!11:08
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PunjabiFLOYDIANi thought that GCC can compile C, C++, Ada and JAVA etc etc11:08
kyjaprobly.11:08
SaintNand u thought u were going crazy :P11:08
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PunjabiFLOYDIANand guys which is better11:09
Juhazit can, depending on your definition of gcc, and the flags, but generally all those different parts of it also have a direct name11:09
PunjabiFLOYDIANEvolution or Thunderbird11:09
surfacePunjabiFLOYDIAN:  g++11:09
surfaceahh11:09
phearlesswhat is the repo for mplayer on dapper ?11:09
PunjabiFLOYDIANsurface: thats ok. which is better - evolution or thunderbird or outlook under wine?11:10
SaintNnot outlook under wine :P11:10
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SaintNI would say thunderbird11:10
surfacePunjabiFLOYDIAN:  thunderbird, some of them use kmail11:10
PunjabiFLOYDIANi knew that. open source geeks are anti microsoft11:10
kyjaPunjabiFLOYDIAN, gcc -dumpspecs11:11
kyja?11:11
PecisDarbswanted to ask - anyone else expierence strange firefox freeze while using gmail.com after newest dapper updates?11:11
PunjabiFLOYDIANPecis: none whatsoever11:11
PecisDarbsPunjabiFLOYDIAN: Evolution is fine11:11
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PunjabiFLOYDIANjust updated it a few minutes back11:11
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PunjabiFLOYDIANPecis: yup. just finished googling11:11
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user42pine !!!11:12
surfacehaha pine user11:12
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surfacelegacy11:12
compengiif i have 2 network cards on my ubuntu machine and i want to make it as a server, such that i will receive internet from the first card and route it to the other network card to the rest of the network, how can this be done, can anyone help me?11:12
PecisDarbsThunderbird is kinda broken for me11:12
zaggynlpine?11:13
PunjabiFLOYDIANwhat is pine?11:13
user42email client...11:13
PecisDarbsPunjabiFLOYDIAN: pine is console mail app11:13
PunjabiFLOYDIANlol. ok11:13
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surfacecompengi:  that means u r going to turn ur machine to router?11:13
PecisDarbsPunjabiFLOYDIAN: quite usable, in fact, but of course not for common users11:13
Madpilotold terminal email app - I still use it for one account, actually.11:13
PunjabiFLOYDIANyeah. for geeks11:13
compengisurface, yes11:14
compengisurface, likely as a server11:14
Morticeuse mutt instead of pine, because of pine's braindead licensing11:14
surfacecompengi:  iptables might be the direction for normal requirement11:14
qsrvhi11:14
mekberMonoDevelop11:15
qsrvmy current ubuntu install takes up a bit too much space11:15
qsrvare there any packages I can remove that are really not needed?11:15
PecisDarbsqsrv: what means - too much space? :) one gig, two? :)11:16
qsrv511:16
PecisDarbsand how much is your own data?11:16
qsrvmy data is on another partition11:16
PecisDarbsohhhh11:16
PecisDarbshmmmm11:16
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qsrvIs there any way to quickly see which packages are taking up this much space?11:17
compengisurface, so i should only enable both network cards put on the first network card the ips that i would receive the internet from and then on the other card i should put the internal server ip like 192.168.0.1 and the gateway with the dns of the first network card, is that what you mean?11:17
surfaceqsrv:  u can see all the pkgs u installed by doing dpkg -l11:17
kyjaqsrv, synaptic has a view options to see before install and after install sizes.11:17
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surfacecompengi:  lol, did i said so much? i am not sure, it depends on how you want it to be.11:18
kyjaI would see if I could not just make the partition bigger though myself.11:18
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compengisurface, i want to get the internet working on my internal network through 2 cards :)11:19
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surfaceur second card out to hub?11:20
xocerhi all11:20
PecisDarbsseriously, no one else don't experience firefox freezing after lastest updates? It starts to getting just very obvious11:20
compengisurface, not necessarily11:20
tourachwhat is the easiest way to get basic webfonts into firefox, such as Arial, Helvetica, Verdana and Georgia? I'm running dapper. sorry, might nog be right channel to ask in11:22
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Ackeubu_hey i did  ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure usplash' but it wasnt able to complete. is there some way to replace /boot/initrd.**** with a working one?11:22
wols_tourach: msttcorefonts I guess11:23
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surfacecompengi:  so i am not sure ur design or ur network environment, no idea how u going to do.11:23
soniumhow can I make /dev/ttyS0 accessible by the www-data user?11:23
fallingdutchAckeubu_, have a look at update-initramfs11:23
compengisurface, how do i get into the iptables?11:24
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fallingdutchsonium, "chgroup www-date /dev/ttyS0" or add the user www-data to the group that has access rights to ttyS011:24
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fallingdutchsonium, the second one is the best11:25
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wols_compengi: use ubuntu-ICS or ipmasq11:25
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wols_sonium: man addgroup. Add the www-data user to the group that owns /dev/ttyS011:25
surfacecompengi:  its more to network environment design problem instead of ubuntu question. and if u need to do port forwarding, or nat, you can check out iptables11:25
surfaceiptables comes with ubuntu.11:25
xoceralguien habla espaol11:25
fyrestrtr!es11:26
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:26
kyjahow would I obtain / compile / and use a newer kernel ? the bot wiki link is realy out of date.11:26
mekberubuntu so far so good11:26
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mekberok chaw11:26
fyrestrtrkyja: which wiki link is out of date?11:26
[-Haza-Lappy-] I feel a little stupid here but i installed Ubuntu from the live CD and during the installation i was promted to create a user and set the password. fair enough. but i was never promted to set a root password. =/ so logging in as root is a little difficult. any pointers? =)11:26
fallingdutchsonium, it would be then "usermod -G dialout www-data"11:26
kyja!kernel11:26
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild11:26
kyjaI think11:26
[-Haza-Lappy-] is there a default password???11:26
fyrestrtr!root > [-Haza-Lappy-] 11:26
kyjayeah that one11:26
PunjabiFLOYDIANHAZA- the password of the first user is the default password11:26
kyjayou cant realy do a thing with that page11:26
fyrestrtrkyja: what's so out of date about it? It works great.11:26
kyjarealy?11:27
kyjahrm11:27
wols_[-Haza-Lappy-] : man sudo. there is no intended way to become root in ubuntu11:27
fallingdutchoh, wols_ you already wrote that .... ;)11:27
soniumhrm: Error locking ttyS0. Do you have permission to write to /var/lock?11:27
[-Haza-Lappy-] ahhhhh11:27
[-Haza-Lappy-] thanks, sudo it is11:27
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fallingdutch[-Haza-Lappy-] , you should never become directly root on any Linux system at all!11:27
soniumdrwxrwxrwt  4 root     root      160 2006-09-26 11:26 lock11:27
kyjafor me to get 2.6.17 or 2.6.18 I cant do11:27
fyrestrtrfallingdutch: that's stretching it a bit.11:28
wols_fallingdutch: that's open to debate. ubuntu is more the odd man out then the norm...11:28
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fyrestrtrkyja: what do you mean you can't? What method are you using to get it?11:28
tourachwols_, thanks big time! I believe it solves my problems11:28
loudmouthmanright pop quiz time .. are there any additional switches I can pass to the install cd for ubuntu 6.0.6 server to help it handle the aic7xxx Compaq Smart Array 532 controller ? because im getting errors on install11:28
loudmouthmanjust asking..11:28
fallingdutchfyrestrtr, wols_ , why should i become directly root? sudo -s -H will do the same and the user is logged user "root" can be anyone though11:28
kyjasudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.17 <== thats bad11:28
[-Haza-Lappy-] fallingdutch: cheers. works a treat! =D11:28
fyrestrtrfallingdutch: because when you system falls into recovery mode, you'll be SOL :)11:29
fallingdutchfyrestrtr, ok ... lets say in normal operation time then ;)11:29
fyrestrtrkyja: ermm, is that even available in dapper?11:29
wols_loudmouthman: what kind of errors?11:29
kyjasudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.18 <==does not like that either. 2.6.* only says it will get 2.6.1511:29
fyrestrtr!info linux-source-2.6.1711:29
ubotuPackage linux-source-2.6.17 does not exist in any distro I know11:29
zaggynlAnyone knows some GUI bandwidthshaping tool?11:29
loudmouthmanwols_ .. im rebooting to check now...11:30
kyjaic11:30
fyrestrtrkyja: you need to download the source from kernel.org, using the *other* method described in the wiki.11:30
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wols_loudmouthman: often acpi=off and noapic help11:30
loudmouthmanwols_ usually funky scsi errors ... ill type up in  second.11:30
kyjammm I guess perhaps I would be safer to wait.11:30
loudmouthmanwols_ yes i use noapic i take it its not the same11:30
fyrestrtrfallingdutch: sure there are times when you need it, but for 99% of the ubuntu users, those times never show up.11:30
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zappehow do i start lmtpd ?11:31
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wols_zappe: depends with which server it came11:31
loudmouthmanwols_ a little wierd is that the sister server ( same config ) installed fine .. so its likely a hw error .. but i want to know ive tried more options.11:31
wols_zappe: usually the imap/pop3 one, so check its docs and config files11:31
zappewols_, cyrus-imapd i think11:31
fallingdutchfyrestrtr, and if so they may need a rescue system ;)11:31
wols_zappe:  /etc/init.d/cyrus21 has a setting in one of the config files11:32
loudmouthmanwols_ thats looking better now .. thanks.11:32
zappewols_, um. where?11:32
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wols_zappe: then try /etc/cyrus.conf11:33
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zappewols_, yeah.. but it doesn't seem to start :/t11:34
mercis there a way to roll my kernel back to a previous one?11:34
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merci think a kernel update messed up my wifi and my sound :(11:34
wols_zappe: ls -al /var/run/cyrus/socket/lmtp11:34
fallingdutchmerc grub should show you the old kernel to boot11:34
fyrestrtrmerc: old kernels are listed in grub, just enable the menu and pick the kernel you know works.11:34
wols_if that exists (or whatever is set in lmtpunix) then it starts11:35
`paulmy pc has a built in intel vid chipset and an nvidia card i tried installing the drivers for nvidia but after reboot all i see is black screen after ubuntu loads. help pls11:35
mercsweet.11:35
mercthanks guys :)11:35
fallingdutchmerc, np11:35
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fyrestrtr`paul: check the error log (/var/log/Xorg.0.log)11:36
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zappewols_ ls: /var/run/cyrus/socket/lmtp: No such file or directory11:36
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wols_zappe: paste your lmtpunix line11:36
chuchihi11:36
mo^hello. how can i restore my key mapping completely? i played with xmodmap and now something is broken.11:37
zappewols_, lmtpunix cmd="lmtpd" listen="/var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp" prefork=111:37
wols_zappe: have you restarted cyrus21?11:37
fyrestrtrmo^: reset it to what your language combo is? xmodmap -e "/usr/share/xmodmoap/xmodmap.us" for example.11:37
zappewols_, yeah.. it doesn't create any socket :/11:38
wols_any syslog output?11:38
zappewols_, lmtpd: could not getenv(CYRUS_SERVICE); exiting11:39
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merc:( it only shows 2.6.12 kernels (386, 686, recovery, etc)11:40
zaggynlAnyone knows some GUI bandwidthshaping tool?11:41
mercsays my audio device doesnt exist when i try to use mplayer, only thing i can think of is kernel change being at fault :(11:41
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wols_zappe: A: Remove all imap, pop, lmtp and sieve lines from [x] inetd.conf and restart [x] inetd. Cyrus is run out of its own "master" process.11:41
wols_that'S what the cyrus faq says11:42
mo^fyrestrtr, doesn't work :(. the problem is: i can't use Super_L as mod4 for shortcuts in xubuntu :(11:42
zappewols_, yeah but .. that's when the error is in imapd no lmtpd :/11:42
wols_merc: does other sound stuff work?11:42
wols_zappe: it cleary says lmtp in the answer. do you have lmtp in inetd.conf?11:43
mercwols_: nope11:43
mercit was a long time since i've rebooted, and, im pretty sure i just did an apt-get upgrade and let it do what it wanted..and never rebooted.11:43
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THX-1138#xinerama11:44
THX-1138!xinerama11:44
ubotuxinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo11:44
PirateHeadI'm having trouble with my ubuntu install.11:44
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PirateHeadI can't figure out how to gain root access so that I can install new software.11:44
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YazzYhi guys11:44
fyrestrtr!sudo > PirateHead11:44
mercPirateHead: sudo11:44
mercai11:44
lupine_85kdesu/gksudo for GUI stuff11:45
YazzYwhich package do i need to install to be able to use the curses libs to run make menuconfig for kernel config ?11:45
PirateHeadRight, I heard about sudo.11:45
zappewols_, don't got any inetd conf :/11:45
PirateHeadSo, I opened up the command prompt.11:45
fyrestrtr!kernel > YazzY11:45
PirateHeadAnd I typed "sudo" and hit enter.11:45
PirateHeadAnd that didn't work, so I was confused.11:45
lupine_85you need to "sudo <command>"11:45
wols_zappe: xinetd.conf then. internet superserver11:45
lupine_85e.g. sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:45
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fyrestrtrPirateHead: sudo <somecommandthatneedsroot>11:45
wols_!tell merc about alsa11:45
RedGhostsudo su11:45
RedGhost<pw>11:45
lupine_85heh, sudo su--11:46
lupine_85do it properly if you're going to do it at all11:46
PirateHeadWhat does "sudo su" do?11:46
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zappewols_, no .conf but i have the file11:46
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wols_zappe: what file?11:46
YazzYfyrestrtr: thanks11:46
fyrestrtrPirateHead: don't do it, instead use sudo -i11:46
lupine_85sudo su gives you a root prompt11:46
zappewols_, "xinetd"11:46
mercbah, this assumes im using gnome!11:46
lupine_85it's a silly hack11:46
PirateHeadFor my educatoin, please tell me what each one does and why sudo -i is preferable.,11:46
merci always just su - ...11:46
PirateHeadeducation =D11:46
RedGhosti would rather have a root prompt than type sudo11:47
fyrestrtrPirateHead: read the manual :)11:47
RedGhosteach time11:47
RedGhostsudo su for life11:47
lupine_85sudo su is basicallyh "run a root shell, as root"11:47
wols_zappe: sudo grep -i -r lmtp /etc/* |less11:47
lupine_85what's the point of that?11:47
lupine_85set a root password, then just su11:47
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lupine_85sudo su - I have no idea about11:47
PirateHeadOkay.11:47
PunjabiFLOYDIANpeople. how do i check which vesrion of gnome i m running?11:47
fyrestrtrjust use sudo -i11:47
fyrestrtrand forget the rest.11:47
zappewols_, just a black screen11:47
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lupine_85sudo -i uses sudo to set a root session of some sort11:47
RedGhostnot system->about gnome11:47
RedGhosthehe11:47
wols_zappe: that is not possible since you have that in cyrus.conf11:48
lupine_85IMO that's a fugly hack as well11:48
PirateHeadWhat I want to do is untar-gz a folder into /usr11:48
PirateHeadso11:48
fyrestrtrPunjabiFLOYDIAN: system > about gnome11:48
wols_zappe: don't use the |less then11:48
lupine_85erm, are you sure you want to do that?11:48
wols_PirateHead: you don't want to do that even if you think you do11:48
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zappe[root@klaus init.d] # grep -i -r lmtp /etc/*11:48
zappeBinary file /etc/alternatives/mta-sendmail matches11:48
fyrestrtrPirateHead: ermm, no. You don't want to do that, even if you really feel like you do. You really don't.11:48
lupine_85if you do, then "sudo cp <file> /" && cd / && sudo tar -xzvf <file>" - but I repeat, you probably don't want to11:48
YazzYfyrestrtr: fyi, I needed the libncurses-dev package11:49
PirateHeadOkay, but I don't understand why.11:49
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fyrestrtrlupine_85: then don't tell him.11:49
lupine_85knowledge is free :)11:49
lupine_85PirateHead: what is in the tar.gz?11:49
fyrestrtrlupine_85: so it stupidity.11:49
lupine_85indeed11:49
Ackeubu_fallingdutch: i tried  sudo  update-initramfs -u /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-9-386. but i get an error: /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/functions: line 84: [: /Program: binary operator expected11:49
PirateHeadlupine_85: QEMU is11:49
lupine_85luckily, stupidity is easy to cure11:49
wols_zappe: you earlier gave me a cyrus.conf line which contains "lmtp" and cyrus.conf is in /etc. so what is it?11:49
lupine_85PirateHead: any reason you can't use the one in the repos?11:49
fyrestrtr!qemu11:49
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo11:49
Overandlupine_85: stupidity isn't easy to cure- ignorance is11:50
lupine_85and is it a binary or source archive?11:50
PirateHeadIt's a binary.11:50
Ackeubu_fallingdutch: its the same error that i got from  ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure usplash'11:50
lupine_85compiled for your specific version of ubuntu - e.g. right libc, etc? Or don't you know?11:50
wols_PirateHead: /usr/local if you really must install it11:50
PirateHeadlupine_85: what is the one in the repos?11:50
lupine_85!info qemu dapper11:50
Madpilot!info qemu11:50
PirateHeadwols_: it does install to usr/local11:50
ubotuqemu: fast processor emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2602 kB, installed size 7360 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 powerpc alpha sparc arm s390)11:50
ubotuqemu: fast processor emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2602 kB, installed size 7360 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 powerpc alpha sparc arm s390)11:50
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Madpilotheh11:51
fyrestrtrPirateHead: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo11:51
lupine_85if that's a late enough version for you, you're best to use that11:51
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lupine_85personally, if I had to use the tar, I'd untar it to my home dir11:51
PirateHeadSo, it comes with Dapper Drake?11:51
OverandPirateHead: are you aware of the way 'package management' works?11:51
lupine_85PirateHead: yes11:51
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lupine_85sudo apt-get install qemu will do the trick11:51
Overandthere's an automated system for installing stuff, and it's usually best to use that rather than stuff11:51
Overandlike untarring something into /usr - which is risky11:52
PunjabiFLOYDIANhow to check the version of gnome?11:52
PirateHeadOverand: I'm a linux newbie, and I generally understand what package management means, but only to a certian extent.11:52
lupine_85!info gnome dapper11:52
ubotugnome: The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.12.2.3 (dapper), package size 11 kB, installed size 44 kB11:52
lupine_85there you go :)11:52
MadpilotPirateHead, you'll need to enable the Universe repo11:52
wols_zappe: well?11:52
PirateHeadDoes repo stand for repository?11:52
fyrestrtryes11:53
YazzYwhat would be the command line to quickly check if a particular package is already installed on my system ?11:53
PirateHeadSo what is the Universe repo?11:53
Madpilot!universe11:53
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource11:53
screechingcatyazzy : sudo ap-get install <the package>11:53
MadpilotPirateHead, check the 2nd URL in ubotu's blurb ^^^11:53
wols_YazzY: dpkg -l <packagename>11:53
YazzYwols_: thanks11:53
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fyrestrtrYazzY: dpkg -l | grep packagename11:53
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Bonaldo2000Hi! Anyone know what might be the cause if ubuntu plays all your mpeg files out of sync?11:54
OverandBonaldo2000: try different media players11:54
fyrestrtroh yeah, use wols_ suggestion :)11:54
PirateHeadDoesn't the availability of the sudo command actually make Ubuntu less safe?11:55
Bonaldo2000Overand: I have tried 4 aleready! They all do the same!11:55
PirateHeadA program could simply put "sudo" in front of every command and have root access without a password.11:55
screechingcatBonaldo2000 : then your video is at fault11:55
fyrestrtrPirateHead: sudo requires a password.11:55
Overandand that i can't help with =] 11:55
MadpilotPirateHead, no it couldn't - sudo needs your user password...11:56
PirateHeadSo, what is the default root password for Ubuntu?11:56
Bonaldo2000I saw something about changing the default audio sink? But cant find out how to do it in ububntu 6.06?11:56
MadpilotPirateHead, there isn't one11:56
lupine_85there is no root password by default11:56
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`paulive seen my Xorg.0.log it has this error: Nvidia: No Matching device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:10) found No devices detected... what seem to be the problem?11:56
fyrestrtrthere isn't one. You use sudo and your own password.11:56
lupine_85hence all the fugly hacks for getting root ;)11:56
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Bonaldo2000screechingcat: no, its the same for ALL videoes...and they dont have the problem in windows...11:56
PirateHeadOkay, I see.11:56
wols_Bonaldo2000: what is your videocard. sync problems can happen if videocard or cpu are too slow11:56
PirateHeadfugly indeed11:56
fyrestrtr`paul: you didn't setup nvidia properly, or your other video card isn't disabled.11:56
PirateHeadIt just pissed me off that I couldn't get root if I wanted it.11:56
screechingcatBonaldo2000: havs u installed all the codes properly11:56
PirateHeadI started looking through the help docs and found nothing but a reference to sudo.11:57
Bonaldo2000wols_: my videocard is geforce 6600gt...and CPU pentium 4 3.2 ghz...shouldnt be a problem11:57
MadpilotPirateHead, why do you need root, exactly? Ubuntu is set up around sudo...11:57
lupine_85PirateHead: you can get root if you want it :)11:57
`paulfyrestrtr: ive disable my intel onboard card on bios11:57
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`paulfyrestrtr: ive disable my intel onboard card on bios isnt that enough?11:57
lupine_85you've had about 10 million different ways of getting root quoted at you so far11:57
wols_Bonaldo2000: are you using nvidia or nv drivers? if you use vesa,it could happen11:57
ipu2ubotu, upgrade11:57
ubotuUpgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes11:57
lupine_85even sudo xterm, I guess ;)11:57
fyrestrtryes, but pastebin your xorg.conf11:57
PirateHeadMadpilot: I wanted to use the Archive Manager program to untar and ungz a folder into /usr, as per QEMU's insall instructions.11:57
Bonaldo2000screechingcat: I have followed the guides at ubuntu wiki I think...but dont know how to check if I have done it correctly?11:57
screechingcattry the guide at ubuntuguide.org11:58
Bonaldo2000wols_: I am using nvidia11:58
PirateHeadMadpilot: So I tried to run archive manager as root, and it didn't work.11:58
wols_`paul: no. you also need to make sure ubuntu doesn't use that videocard. even disabled, it's still there. and linux rarely cares about BIOS11:58
Bonaldo2000screechingcat: ok, ill have a look11:58
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fyrestrtrwols_: what video card do you have?11:58
MadpilotPirateHead, if QEMU's install instructions say that, there is something wrong w/ them...11:58
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wols_fyrestrtr: nvdia 660011:58
MadpilotPirateHead, or they weren't written specifically for Ubuntu...11:58
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wols_fyrestrtr: but I've seen videos lag on a intel integrated graphics card on a P4 2.811:59
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PirateHeadMadpilot: the folder in the tar.gz is called usr, and inside it a folder called local, and so on... so it installs to the correct place.11:59
dutchmorning11:59
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visik7anyone with a dell inspirion 8600 and ipw2100 ? I can't set the channel with iwconfig11:59
PirateHeadI don't really need to ungz to /usr11:59
PirateHeadI could ungz it do its direct location, then move stuff aorund.11:59
PirateHeadBut the fact is that I wish I could use the window manager to mess with files in the protected folders.11:59
frogzoovisik7: sudo iwconfig ?11:59
visik7yes11:59
visik7sudo iwconfig11:59
lupine_85PirateHead: gksudo nautilus11:59
`paul<wols_>: how do i disable my intel card on linux?11:59
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lupine_85or kdesu konqueror11:59
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ipu2my wireless in dapper didn't work. and i installed breezy and it works in breezy12:00
lupine_85not the best idea in the world, though12:00
misavolaanyone here able to help w/ ubuntu installation problem?12:00
ipu2is that a bug?12:00
Bonaldo2000screechingcat: but it seems that guide uses gstreamer...I have heard xine is better..12:00
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fyrestrtr`paul: what video card do you have?12:00
lupine_85ipu2: what chipset is it?12:00
frogzoomisavola: that's what this chan does12:00
misavolainstallation freezes up at about 50%12:00
PirateHeadlupine_85: those wms work with sudo, eh?12:00
lotusleafmisavola: did you check the md5sum of the iso?12:00
MadpilotPirateHead, what lupine_85 said - with the warning about 'gksudo nautilus' being a really good way to screw up your system...12:00
frogzoo!fixinstall12:00
ubotuFor a few common problems when installing, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall also make sure you have read !install12:00
misavolafrogzoo: yep, that's what i thought12:00
jj78Does anybody know about ELE PCI card-reader support?12:00
lupine_85...they aren't window managers...12:00
PirateHeadMadPilot: is kdesu konqueror any better?12:01
misavoladid i what where who now?12:01
PirateHeadMadpilot: and does kdesu konqueror require KDE?12:01
frogzoomisavola: see ubotu above12:01
misavolan00b here12:01
`paulfyrestrtr: an intel onboard and an nvidia card12:01
misavolak12:01
ipu2lupine_85, i think its netgear w311v2 and texas instruments chipset12:01
misavolai'll chesk it12:01
MadpilotPirateHead, I don't run KDE/Konq, but I doubt it - any root access to the whole file tree - esp. graphical - can lead to screwups... personally, I always use CLI & 'sudo mv...'12:01
fyrestrtr`paul: *what* nvidia card?12:01
lupine_85ipu2: the driver probably didn't make it into dapper12:02
ipu2lupine_85, i tried to get it work on dapper for nearly 3 weeks.... and even installed windows xp :o12:02
lupine_85it might be in edgy12:02
lupine_85otherwise you can build your own driver12:02
`paulfyrestrtr: an old geforce 400 i think mx12:02
PirateHeadMadpilot: I will try just using sudo mv, it sounds like the best option to me.12:02
PirateHeadGraphical wms are a pain anyways.12:02
lupine_85yep, that's the best option :)12:02
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ipu2lupine_85, breezy recognized the wireless card while installing... but dapper did not12:02
fyrestrtrmake sure you use the right driver, your card may be a 'legacy' card.12:02
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PirateHeadI just get worried that I'll screw something up.12:03
lupine_85ipu2: yep, the driver isn't in dapper12:03
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PirateHeadLike I say, I'm new to linux, and it often takes me a long time to type things in just right.12:03
lupine_85maybe try the edgy knot 3 live CD and see if it's in there?12:03
frogzooPirateHead: learn to use tab12:03
MadpilotPirateHead, true, but once you've typed them, you know *exactly* what you're moving... no chance of accidentially drag'n'dropping the wrong file with a graphical file manager running as root12:04
visik7here it is12:04
PirateHeadfrogzoo: tab is my savior.12:04
lupine_85sudo mv really-lon<TAB> /really/long/pa<TAB> :D12:04
visik7iwconfig eth1 essid default channel 112:04
visik7Error for wireless request "Set Frequency" (8B04) :12:04
visik7    SET failed on device eth1 ; Operation not supported.12:04
`paulfyrestrtr: well its not in the legacy list12:04
visik7from sudo12:04
lupine_85what it says on the tin12:04
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lupine_85maybe you need to use iwpriv (e.g. old driver?)12:05
fyrestrtr`paul: paste your xorg.conf file12:05
`paulfyrestrtr: and it was working few days ago i reformatted my pc and now im havin a hard time installing it12:05
`paulwait its on another pc T_T12:05
misavolaokay now, why does ACPI need to be switched off?12:05
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lupine_85'cos it's crap ;)12:05
misavola:)12:05
`pauli know under device theres only 2 Identifier and Driver "nvidia"12:05
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`pauli mean two entries12:06
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misavolai already installed kubuntu and had no problems doing so, so why is it that ubuntu should be any different12:06
misavola(replacing kubuntu w/ ubuntu)12:06
wols_misavola: cause it's implementation either by hw vendors or linux programmers suck12:06
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screechingcatwhat does aspid do ?12:07
AbortD!kde12:07
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE12:07
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misavolai mean in the installation way12:07
misavolai know what the difference between kde and gnome is12:08
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misavola(basically) ;)12:08
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c0nfidencalhey12:09
screechingcatkde is spel K-D-E and gnome is spelt - G-N-O-M-E12:09
SaintNall kde appz start with a k :P12:09
mildrewI'm having a problem with firefox crashing (and all the windows disappearing)12:09
c0nfidencalu know those websites where are videos12:09
c0nfidencaland it plays with that windows media player12:09
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c0nfidencalhow can i make it work under linux?12:09
mildrewit happens even when I've got no extensions installed12:09
c0nfidencalbtw i use vlc player, installed vlc plugin for firefox - doesnt help12:09
c0nfidencalany ideas?12:09
screechingcatcoondencial : u cant12:09
`paulok here is my question how do i know the bus ID of my video card?12:09
wols_c0nfidencal: most of those websites use a flashplayer I thought?12:09
c0nfidencalnope12:09
misavolaso gnome has some beef w/ ACPI?12:09
screechingcatthe porno ones use wmv12:09
c0nfidencalnope12:10
c0nfidencalgamespot too12:10
c0nfidencal^^12:10
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c0nfidencalthat vlc plugin just shows12:10
c0nfidencal(no picture)12:10
c0nfidencalinstead of video12:10
mildrewit crashes when I'm holding down the Tab key to move between links (i'm navigating only using keyboard, not the mouse)12:10
wols_c0nfidencal: if it has DRM, you can't without DRM w32codecs for mplayer and its ffox plugin should work I think12:10
screechingcatWMV WILL NOT woek in Linux12:10
c0nfidencalscreechingcat,12:10
c0nfidencalit works :p12:10
c0nfidencalvlc plays it12:10
screechingcatHOW ?12:10
screechingcatreally ?12:10
Madpilot!enter12:10
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.12:10
c0nfidencaldunno12:10
c0nfidencalit just works, yes12:11
wols_screechingcat: google win32codecs12:11
screechingcatw32codecs i have12:11
screechingcatbut wmv is a real problem. streaming wise12:11
wols_mpalyer could play wmv for years now. the trouble is wmv DRM. that you can't play12:11
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c0nfidencalscreechingcat, sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-esd <- plays all ^^12:11
c0nfidencalbah...12:12
screechingcati have VLC but what is this esd plugin ?12:12
c0nfidencali dont know12:12
wols_screechingcat: and you needed to be on x86 since it used some windows DLLS IIRC12:12
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c0nfidencalscreechingcat,12:12
screechingcatyes that too. i have an intel p412:12
wols_screechingcat: gnome douns manager. aka "shit"12:12
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wols_*sound12:12
jj78Enlightenment Sound Daemon.12:12
c0nfidencal"VLC media player for Ubuntu Linux"12:12
c0nfidencalYou need to check that you have a "universe" mirror in your /etc/apt/sources.list.12:12
c0nfidencal   % sudo apt-get update12:12
c0nfidencal   % sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-esd12:12
wols_!dmix12:12
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems12:12
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c0nfidencalbah, so there is no way to get "wmp" videos work? :X12:13
misavolawill disabling ACPI disable it permanently?12:13
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screechingcatc)nfidencial : dude i have everythin installed. ur the one who asked the question12:13
marcin_anthi guys, I would like to buy webcam but I would like to choose model which is supported12:13
c0nfidencalscreechingcat,12:13
c0nfidencalu said wmv doesnt work12:13
c0nfidencalit works for me with vlc12:13
c0nfidencal:X12:13
marcin_antcould you advise me which one should I order to make sure that it will work in ubuntu?12:13
`paulhow do i find the bus id of my video card if i have two of them?12:13
screechingcatnah i said streaming wmv dosent work12:13
c0nfidencalah :(12:14
c0nfidencaltoo bad :P12:14
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screechingcatmarcin_ant : search the wiki. for supported webcams12:14
SaintNscreechingcat - same here mate. Cant stream em in firefox.... no idea what the fix is12:14
marcin_antscreechingcat: I already did12:14
screechingcatSaintN : there is no fix12:14
marcin_antscreechingcat: but iformations are bad organized and they are often outdated12:15
c0nfidencalbtw12:15
c0nfidencalthat vlc plugins12:15
screechingcatmarcin_ant : search the forums12:15
c0nfidencalgives me sound :P12:15
c0nfidencalplugin*12:15
marcin_antscreechingcat: and I cannot decide which one shoud I trust :(12:15
c0nfidencal@ firefox12:15
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screechingcatmarcin_ant : just search the forums and see12:15
screechingcatubuntuforums.org12:15
hockyhairwhat can i use to make applications (openbox, kicker) transparent12:16
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marcin_antscreechingcat: for example Logitech Webcam messenger should work - but I can see that there is only new release of this cam in sales12:16
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screechingcatmarcin_ant : u should really search the forums or the wiki, cozz i kno nothing about webcams12:17
marcin_antscreechingcat: so.. it's name is still "messenger" but while it's new release then I can have different electronics...12:17
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Overandmarcin_ant: you can always check what the device IDs itself as12:18
Overandlsusb etc12:18
marcin_antOverand: but I can do this only when I got this webcam on my desk12:18
marcin_antOverand: but I cannot buy something that will not work12:19
Overandoh, you *can* buy something that won't work12:19
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frogzoowould fat32 or ntfs be faster for emulation with qemu ?12:19
Overandyou just don't want to =] 12:19
marcin_antOverand: right ;)12:19
screechingcatthere was a forum thread EXACLTY like this. look it up12:19
Overandfrogzoo: if 'qemu' is involved, 'faster' isn't going to be an option12:19
SaintNlol12:19
frogzooOverand: hence the question...12:19
SaintNuse ntfs frogzoo12:20
frogzooSaintN: thx, will give it a try12:20
Overandi actualy suggest fat3212:20
Overandthat way you can mount the image under ubuntu and toy with it12:20
Overandwhich is doable with ntfs, but it's trickier12:20
THX-1138nice tip12:20
SaintNtrue12:20
hockyhairdon't ignore me :(12:21
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THX-1138hockyhair - All are here to help.12:21
AbortDis there different desktops than gnome and kde?12:21
screechingcatxfce12:21
Overandhockyhair: i didn't see you ask a question12:21
hockyhairso setting transparency in openbox/klicker, what can i use12:21
screechingcatfluxbox12:21
hockyhair"hello, what apps are recommend for setting transparency with openbox"12:22
AbortDwhere do you fiind them?12:22
OverandI don't think X natively supports 'real' transparency12:22
screechingcatAbortD : xubunut.org12:22
hockyhairfake trans is fine12:22
screechingcatAbortD : or sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop12:22
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Overandhockyhair: i believe that 'fake trans' relies on a specific application supporting it12:23
THX-1138openbox - erm - xcompmgr with translucency. - compiz and openbox are a mystery.12:23
Overandbut0 i don't know the details here12:23
screechingcatAbortD : sorry that should be xubuntu.org12:23
AbortDwhy aptitude?12:23
AbortDwhy not apt-get?12:23
screechingcatbecause if u want to remove xfce then aptitude will remove all the dependencies and orphaned pakceges12:23
screechingcatwhich apt-get will not do12:24
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hockyhairTHX-1138: what now?12:24
bahrCan someone please help me to change my locales?12:24
Overandbahr: run 'locales'12:24
fyrestrtr!locales > bahr12:24
hockyhairi have xcompmgr but it doesnt play nice12:24
bahrOverand: yes but when I run locale -a I only got utf8 locales I need ISO8859-15 or ISO8859-1 locales12:24
Overandbahr: what did the bot have to say to you?12:25
screechingcat!locale12:25
ubotuTo set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf12:25
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AbortDi do not need xfce12:25
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screechingcatthen what do u need ?12:25
hockyhairi think its cause of fglrx .. is there an alternative to xcompmgr?12:25
Shadowpillarnight12:26
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screechingcatwhat is ACPID and can i turn it off from booting without craping up my computer ?12:27
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LazyboY^is there anyone that can help me setup xgl?12:28
hockyhairTHX-1138: any idea?12:28
marcin_ant!webcam12:29
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras12:29
WhiteDethLazyboY: Go to #ubuntu-xgl12:29
fyrestrtrLazyboY^: #ubuntu-xgl12:29
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LazyboY^thanks12:29
WhiteDethCan anyone help me with this?12:29
WhiteDethIm installing Ubuntu12:29
WhiteDethbut during the install it gives me this error - "The test of the file system with type fat16 in partition #1 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) found uncorrected errors."12:29
WhiteDethwhats that supposed to mean?12:29
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hockyhairi believe you should correct some errors on your scsi partition12:30
WhiteDethwhat errors? :\12:30
hockyhairfsck the drive12:30
hockyhairunmount first12:30
screechingcatdot literally fsck it though12:30
`paulhow would i know if my nvidia card belongs to the legacy or latest drivers?12:31
WhiteDeththe / drive that im installing it on is already formatted as NTFS earlier, would that be why it's doing this?12:31
ipu2ubotu tor12:31
ubotutor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.0.16-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 608 kB, installed size 1120 kB12:31
nrdbIn a GTK2 app can I change the order in which the <tab> cycles though the widgets?12:32
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fyrestrtr`paul: look it up at the nvidia website12:32
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WhiteDethUbuntu runs on ext3 right?12:33
wols_yes12:33
screechingcator rieserfs12:33
lupine_85by default12:33
WhiteDethshould I be creating a Logical partition then?12:33
lupine_85makes no difference12:33
WhiteDethas my / partition?12:33
WhiteDethoh12:33
lupine_85generally no, unless you expect to be using 5+ partitions12:34
wols_primary or logical, linux doesn't care12:34
WhiteDethim using over 5.12:34
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screechingcathow many ?12:34
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WhiteDethI think 6 total12:34
lupine_85then you'll need at least some to be logical :)12:35
fyrestrtryou can only have 4 primary partitions.12:35
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WhiteDethmoment of truth.12:35
WhiteDethinstalling Ubuntu now :D12:35
screechingcatenjoy12:35
WhiteDethyeah, thats the problem I faced while trying to install OSX8612:35
WhiteDethGAH! AGAIN ERROR?!?@12:36
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screechingcatwhat's it say ?12:36
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WhiteDeth"The test of the file system with type fat16 in partition #1 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) found uncorrected errors.12:36
hockyhairdoes anyone know what dev psp 2.71 uses, ive tried sba1 sba2 sdb112:36
WhiteDethGo Back or Continue?12:36
screechingcathey how'd he get 3 0's for the location ?12:36
screechingcatisnt it normally 2 ?12:37
WhiteDeth3 0's definately here.12:37
WhiteDethso what should I do? Continue or Go back and do something else? :\12:37
wols_WhiteDeth: where are you installing it? what device name? have you made a partition yet?12:37
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WhiteDethwols_ I have ONE hard drive. That HD has many partitions, with XP and Vista on 2 seperate ones. Im installing Ubuntu over the Vista partition.12:38
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WhiteDethI've already formatted it as ext3 through this partitioner system via Ubuntu. And I have 3GB of swap space as well.12:38
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zaggynlinternet explorer for linux :D great now I can test while using linux12:38
falcon3positive decision12:38
hockyhairthat's a lot of swap12:38
WhiteDethwell I had 3GB of unallocated space...so I thought I might as well use it -_-12:39
hockyhairinternet explorer for linux? lol are you kidding?12:39
screechingcathow much is swap recommended ?12:39
hockyhairhalf your ram12:39
WhiteDethanyway, so what do I do now?12:39
wols_WhiteDeth: have you any fat16 partitions on that disk? what type is the partition? is it 0x83?12:39
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wols_hockyhair: the amount of your ram12:39
zaggynlhockyhair, http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/index-en.html12:39
zaggynlI'm not :D12:39
hockyhairwols_: every source ive found says half12:40
screechingcati have 512mb ram. i installed a 1 gig swap12:40
WhiteDethwols_ I have FAT32 partitions, NTFS partitions, none else. Dont know about 0x83.12:40
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SaintNsources Ive found say 1.5 to twice the amount of ram :P of course thats just stupid12:40
falcon30x83 is ext3 iirc12:40
lupine_85never use it all but hard drive space is cheap12:40
WhiteDethoh12:40
screechingcatit doesnt hurt to have extra space lyin around !!12:40
wols_WhiteDeth: your partition need to be type 0x83 for Ubuntu normally12:41
falcon3or ext212:41
WhiteDethin that case I have formatted my Vista partition as ext3.12:41
falcon3WhiteDeth: pick ext312:41
WhiteDethIve already formatted my Vista partition as ext3.12:41
lupine_85in that case, you want to abort12:41
falcon3WhiteDeth: good12:41
WhiteDethvia the ubuntu installer.12:41
wols_SaintN: I have a book that talks about 128MB of swap or so. of course it's from '95...12:41
Lunar_Lampvista runs on ext3!? :-D12:41
WhiteDethso wtf is still going wrong :\12:41
lupine_85unless you don't want vista ant more12:41
WhiteDethI dont.12:41
WhiteDethDIE VISTA DIE?!?12:41
screechingcatnow install12:41
WhiteDeth:)12:41
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lupine_85then delete the vista partition and create a new one12:41
WhiteDethI DID install, the error I pasted came up AFTER that.12:41
WhiteDethlupine: That's what I did.12:41
hockyhairso does anyone know what dev psp uses?12:41
frogzoowols_: lappie or server ? how much phys ram ? main use ?12:42
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falcon3WhiteDeth: it's pronounced "Die Vista, Die" :)12:42
lupine_85ah, ok12:42
SaintNnice wols_ :) 128mb - keep up the good work answering all the questions too btw :D12:42
hockyhairit changed from 1.5 to 2.7+12:42
hockyhairnot /dev/sda1 anymore :/12:42
WhiteDethfalcon3: There's no way im using proper grammar for Microsoft.12:42
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screechingcatquit the installer, restart, parttion again and try again12:42
user42all your base, your base your base, all your base... are belong to us.12:42
screechingcatthe live cd installer is very crashy12:42
WhiteDethoh12:42
falcon3WhiteDeth: it was more a Simpsons Reference where SideShow Bob says "Die Bart, Die"12:42
WhiteDethokay, ill try that now.12:42
frogzoouser42: even base 16 ?12:42
WhiteDethahh12:42
user42heh...12:42
WhiteDethwhat season/episode is that?12:42
falcon3WhiteDeth: saying it as "the bart, the"12:42
lupine_85so is partition one of sda the vista partition?12:42
lupine_85s/vista/linux now, I guess12:43
hockyhairbrb12:43
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WhiteDethI found this website the other day that has every single simpsons episode online...12:43
WhiteDethyou can watch em online. Pretty cool.12:43
WhiteDethHighly illegal, still cool though.12:43
falcon3The Simpsons S09E22 "Cape Feare"12:43
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screechingcat!ubuntu-offtopic12:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-offtopic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:43
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WhiteDethwhile restarting it said "Stopping RAID monitoring services....failed!"12:44
WhiteDethwtf.12:44
screechingcatyeah it says that for me too12:44
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screechingcattake no notice12:44
WhiteDethoh phew.12:44
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WhiteDeth*sigh* Why is anything other than Windows so hard to install? :\12:45
fyrestrtrOS X is easy to install :)12:46
WhiteDethAbout the only thing I liked about Vista...it installs pretty much without a glitch.12:46
WhiteDethHell no! I installed OSX86, was a pain.12:46
fyrestrtrobviously, I mean installing it on proper, Apple hardware.12:46
WhiteDethVista? You have a partition...fine, it'll do EVERYTHING else for you.12:46
jc-dentonlol12:46
fyrestrtrand what is the problem with installing Linux?12:46
jc-dentoninstall windows12:46
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jc-dentonthen u have to look for all the crappy drivers12:47
zaggynland then you get blue screens12:47
jc-dentonthen install the updates service packs12:47
WhiteDethI've been trying for an hour, and it keeps giving me errors after errors...thats the problem with installing Linux.12:47
frogzooWhiteDeth: installs without a glitch - you mean like ubuntu ?12:47
WhiteDethNaw dude, you only get blue screens and the likes with old unsupported hardware.12:47
Juhazit's funny how people always take their experiences for worst and best case install and assume it's the norm12:47
WhiteDethMy laptop's beyond fully supported.12:47
fyrestrtrWhiteDeth: what is the hardware you are trying to install on, and is there another operating system on it?12:47
WhiteDethfyrestrtr: Yep, Windows XP and Vista. It's a Dell Inspiron 9400.12:48
fyrestrtrWhiteDeth: how big of a hard disk?12:48
frogzooJuhaz: it's called inexperience12:48
WhiteDethwell...no more Vista seeing as how I deleted that partition.12:48
WhiteDethfyrestrtr: 100GB 7200RPM :)12:48
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WhiteDethnooooo@12:49
WhiteDethVista sucks.12:49
WhiteDethBIG.12:49
frogzooChickenTalons: [k] qemu12:49
WhiteDethIve never been this disappointed in my life, heh.12:49
ChickenTalonsi actually figured out how to get a legit copy of windows w/o paying for it - found an old busted dell laptop, used winxp home oem12:49
lewix127.0.0.0 port:637 service:Ipp12:49
lewixwhat's that12:49
fyrestrtrWhiteDeth: the problem with Vista (which I doubt you know) is that overtakes your mbr in such a way, that its a hassle to install anything else on it (even Windows -- unless you format the disk). So, for you, I suggest doing a manual partition, using the now-vacant free space of Vista.12:49
ChickenTalonsi knew my lagger roomate never reg'd it12:49
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wols_WhiteDeth: It's a beta. from MS. of a pretty totally new product. DoN't you know the 3 versions rule?12:50
fyrestrtrChickenTalons: that's still not legal.12:50
frogzooWhiteDeth: how old's this machine ? ide or sata ? is there a bios update avilable ?12:50
ChickenTalonsfyrestrtr, absolute nonsense - It reg'd and validated fine and is perfectly legal to do12:50
kemikugh12:50
kemikUberpussy is the first tab hit12:50
WhiteDethfrogzoo: 3 months old maybe? SATA, and bios updates every 1-2 months.12:50
kemikwhen trying "ub<Tab>" .. instead of ubotu...12:50
frogzooWhiteDeth: you've tried disabling acpi ?12:51
ChickenTalonsfyrestrtr, as long as im not using it on more than one computer at a time, which im not b/c the original system has ceased to be12:51
WhiteDethfyrestrtr: Thats what im planning to do. Using the vacant space now to install Ubuntu. It kept giving me errors earlier, im gonna try again now.12:51
fyrestrtrChickenTalons: you are telling me, that you know more about Microsoft licensing, than my girlfriend that has been working 6 years in Microsoft dealing directly with this issue?12:51
WhiteDethfrogzoo: Nope, what's that and where from? :\12:51
frogzoo!fixinstall > WhiteDeth12:51
ChickenTalonsfyrestrtr, yes I am12:51
fyrestrtrChickenTalons: OEM licenses are only transferrable with the hardware.12:51
ChickenTalonsfyrestrtr, not according to MS licensing.12:51
wols_fyrestrtr: depends on jurisdiction. not in germany for example12:51
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fyrestrtrChickenTalons: lol, great. Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic12:52
wols_and has this OEM license ever tested in court in the US (not that anyone would want to get sued by MS)12:52
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frogzooChickenTalons: local laws override conflicts with licensing12:52
acabekjgihoiuoui12:52
WhiteDeth"from the installer's prompt" - where's the installer's boot prompt? :\12:52
acabeiugu12:52
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kemikhrmpfh12:53
frogzooWhiteDeth: the prompt from when the install starts up12:53
kemikwhere's feature list of edyg and screenshots and goodies ?12:53
fyrestrtrWhiteDeth: the one called boot:12:53
frogzoo!edgy12:53
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule12:53
fyrestrtrkemik: on the wiki :)12:53
frogzookemik: it will be in the wiki12:53
USER020660heyh12:53
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USER020660hows everybody doin?12:53
USER020660shitheads12:53
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WhiteDethfrogzoo: You mean the place where it gives me 30s to choose what I want to do with the live CD?12:54
Lunar_Lamp!schedule12:54
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule12:54
frogzooUSER020660: we play nice in here12:54
frogzooUSER020660: not my choice, but that's the rule12:54
USER020660you should all be ashamed of yourselves you people fuckin disgusting12:54
fyrestrtrWhiteDeth: if you bother to read that screen, it will tell you that if you press any key, the timer is disabled :)12:54
frogzooWhiteDeth: exactly12:54
frogzoo!language12:54
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.12:54
WhiteDethlol. Aight, ill restart.12:54
USER020660i wish you all drowned in your shitty assholes12:54
frogzooUSER020660: peeps get booted for obscene language12:54
USER020660fucking sons of bitches12:54
kemikwas hoping to get one page with info12:55
USER020660fuck you all slutty crapbones12:55
Lunar_Lamp:-( looks like i won't be edgy-fying for a while; the next version comes back 2 weeks after i go back to uni; can't risk even a day of downtime on my laptop there12:55
kemiknot the release schedule, or the dev. process12:55
WhiteDethUSER020660 = Microsoft fanboy it seems.12:55
WhiteDethmaybe even Billy Gaties himself.12:55
fyrestrtrWhiteDeth: don't feel the trolls, please.12:55
frogzoono, just ADDS12:55
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USER020660your nothin but a bunch of perverted asslicking cocksuckers12:55
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USER020660fucuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccccccccccckkk12:55
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brosnan!help12:55
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage12:55
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brosnanhelp!12:56
frogzoooh noes, USER020660, how you've gone & done it12:56
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WhiteDethWHOA.12:56
brosnanubotu: help!12:56
WhiteDethokay so I tried doing that linux acpi = off thing12:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about help! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:57
WhiteDethit came up saying "Could not find kernel image: Linux"12:57
WhiteDethwtf??12:57
fyrestrtrWhiteDeth: its linux not Linux12:57
WhiteDethyeah, I typed it out properly just as on the wiki.12:57
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johns^q12:57
fyrestrtrdid you type it as linux or Linux ?12:57
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johns^sorry12:57
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WhiteDethlinux12:58
WhiteDethI typed linux acpi=off12:58
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WhiteDethstill same error :\12:58
RedGhostYou know in all the time ive used Ubuntu on and off I never once tried any of the games12:58
RedGhostthey are pretty good12:58
RedGhostconnect four, yahtzee, worms12:58
RedGhosthehe12:58
fyrestrtrWhiteDeth: are you using the alternate cd?12:58
frogzoominesweeper12:59
WhiteDethnope, live cd downloaded directly from Ubuntu's main download page.12:59
frogzooWhiteDeth: oops12:59
fyrestrtryou need the alternate cd.12:59
johns^image name could be 'live'12:59
johns^live acpi=off12:59
RedGhostJust download the DVD12:59
RedGhostit has everything on it12:59
WhiteDeth:(12:59
WhiteDethI cant, 4.7GB on a 256k line = murder.12:59
RedGhostoh:z12:59
unfknblvbllol01:00
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WhiteDethso...what am I doing then? :\01:00
fyrestrtrdownload the alternate install cd.01:00
RedGhostits 3.2gb01:00
itoola01:00
WhiteDeth3.2GB is still murder.01:00
WhiteDethwhat the hell is the point of them linking to the alternate install cd then??01:00
WhiteDethif it doesnt even work?!01:00
RedGhosttook me  5 hours to dl o;01:00
WhiteDeth*live cd01:00
RedGhosti used the text based installer not the live cd01:00
lotusleafwhat apps depend on the Gconf daemon? I get a warning when I run "galeon-config-tool --install-schemas" without quotes to fix Galeon01:00
RedGhosthad to create a few new partitions set some stuff of01:00
WhiteDethim too chicken to use that.01:01
RedGhostits not hard01:01
lastnodeWhiteDeth, the livecd has a gui installer by default because most new users prefer that.01:01
WhiteDethyes, and im trying to use that except it keeps giving me the same damn error,.01:01
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RedGhostall the articles and reviews said dual boot or even functioning Linux on this laptop wasnt possible01:01
RedGhostI got dual boot, full drivers, works flawlessly01:01
RedGhostjust use the more advanceinstaller o:01:01
wols_RedGhost: dual boot is possible on any PC01:01
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wols_as long as it has a IBM PC compatible BIOS that is01:02
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RedGhostThey said once grube wrote to the MBR it messed up.01:02
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RedGhostgrub01:02
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fyrestrtrthere is no such thing as a IBM PC "compatible" BIOS :)01:02
wols_fyrestrtr: compaq would say otherwise :P01:02
wols_they paid a MILLION DOLLARS for it01:03
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fyrestrtroh yeah, right ... sure ... that's makes it better.01:03
WhiteDethim gonna check the cd for errors01:03
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Lunar_Lampok, stupid question here, in Xchat when i want to pm someone normally i just "/msg nick MESSAGE", but how do i open a window and then pm them, just a normal pm window, not a dcc chat?01:04
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Chousukefyrestrtr: what are those compatible BIOSes called then?01:04
frogzoofyrestrtr: there is a standard api for the bios however01:05
RedGhostright click their name01:05
RedGhostclick "private chat"01:05
Lunar_Lampi don't have that option :-s01:05
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WhiteDethwhy not just use Chatzilla for Firefox?01:05
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Happu_Hello. How do I unmount cdrom driver? It won't open.01:05
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RedGhostapt-get install xchat-gnome01:05
PunjabiFLOYDIANpeople. how to get the full update list?i01:06
Lunar_Lampi have: open dialogue window, send a file, operator actions, user info01:06
frogzooHappu_: close processes accessing driver - then 'eject'01:06
Lunar_LampWhiteDeth, because i use opera not firefox, heh01:06
WhiteDethouch.01:06
RedGhostopen dialogue window01:06
RedGhostthen01:06
jazzrockerick01:06
WhiteDethyuck heh.01:06
PunjabiFLOYDIANi need help guys. i cant get the full update list. what to do01:06
jazzrockersudo apt-get install xchat201:06
RedGhostOpera is a good browser.01:06
jazzrockerxchat-gnome is teh suxors01:06
Happu_frogzoo: I need to change CD for setup :( If I close setup I can't install the application :/01:06
RedGhostxchat gnome is better imo01:07
jazzrocker?01:07
RedGhostmore lightweight01:07
jazzrockercompletely lacking features because it's beta and they're not implemented yet, fewer preference choices... how is that better?01:07
Lunar_LampRedGhost, just testing with you, but that seems to create a DCC chat not a nomral chate01:07
jazzrockerlol, if you're after "lightweight" use ircii01:07
frogzooHappu_: just 'eject' or push the eject button01:07
PunjabiFLOYDIANguys please help an innocent guy01:07
Lunar_Lampxchat is good, i don't like xchat-gnome01:07
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RedGhostsmaller file size, less features, all the visual options I need01:07
RedGhostits fine for me01:07
Happu_foglight: it says that umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy01:07
Hoxzer!jack01:08
ubotujack: Rip and encode CDs with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.1-14 (dapper), package size 121 kB, installed size 572 kB01:08
jazzrockerPunjabiFLOYDIAN, please just ask your question01:08
Hoxzer!jackd01:08
ubotujackd: JACK Audio Connection Kit (server and example clients). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.100.0-4 (dapper), package size 95 kB, installed size 352 kB01:08
Happu_I have 2 other CD drives but they aren't mounted for some reason...01:08
PunjabiFLOYDIANjazzrocker: i cant seem to get the full udate list01:08
janitor_xHappu_, try sudo umount /media/cdrom0 ... then eject01:08
jazzrockerdon't ask me, ask the channel. and that's not a question01:08
Happu_janitor_x: tried already it doesn't work :(01:08
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lapaquitaholas01:09
lapaquitak aceis subnormales01:09
lapaquitajajajajjaja01:09
lapaquitajajajjaa01:09
PunjabiFLOYDIANpeople i m not getting the full update list  ? can you please suggest how01:09
janitor_xHappu_,  could be a jammed drive?01:09
calebti can't sleep, damn it, 24 hours without sleep, i hate my insomnia :-(01:09
fyrestrtrPunjabiFLOYDIAN: can you be a bit more specific?01:09
lapaquitabeachh01:09
RedGhostcalebt heh I missed class today because of insomnia01:09
ChickenTalonscalebt, if I might make a suggestion - valerian root tea01:09
PunjabiFLOYDIANsee i want to update my system. but it doesnt show the kernel updates.01:09
RedGhostits 4am now, woke up at midnight01:10
frogzoocalebt: go do vista installs repeatedly - under qemu01:10
Happu_janitor_x: dunno. I can read it after all...01:10
calebtgood idea 4chicken01:10
fyrestrtrmaybe you system is already up to date.01:10
PunjabiFLOYDIANno i m damn sure it is not01:10
PunjabiFLOYDIANits  just a fersh ubuntu install01:10
calebtlol01:10
PunjabiFLOYDIANearlier it was shwoing the list. not it not :(01:10
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Happu_janitor_x: it would help if the other driver would mount.01:10
fyrestrtrPunjabiFLOYDIAN: earlier when?01:10
Happu_janitor_x: but for somereason I don't know how to mount it01:11
janitor_xHappu_, then try to mount it...01:11
PunjabiFLOYDIANi was messing with the synaptic repos01:11
PunjabiFLOYDIANnow is there any way i can check the sources.list file?01:11
lupine_85PunjabiFLOYDIAN: apt-get update followed by apt-get dist-upgrade would do it01:11
PunjabiFLOYDIANok thanks01:11
lupine_85if your repos are broken, fix them01:11
fyrestrtr!source-o-matic01:11
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic01:11
Happu_janitor_x: should I try sudo mount /media/cdrom2/ ?01:11
janitor_xtry sudo mount /dev/cdrom#01:11
fyrestrtryou need that PunjabiFLOYDIAN :)01:11
janitor_xHappu_, if the cdrom2 shows on the media directory.. then you can use that command01:12
PunjabiFLOYDIANstill not showing? how can i edit the sources.list file ?01:12
lupine_85sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list01:12
Happu_janitor_x: mount: can't find /dev/cdrom# in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab01:13
WhiteDeth*sigh* trying the install one more time...01:13
RedGhostsudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list01:13
RedGhostO:01:13
Happu_janitor_x: Ok so the problem is that I don't have the cdrom in fstab... Can you tell me how to add it there?01:13
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Happu_janitor_x: and I tried to replace # with numbers but it didn't wokr.01:14
janitor_xHappu_, change the # to the number assignment of your drive :)01:14
calebtsomebody have another suggest to resolve my insomnia?01:14
janitor_x0 or 1 or 201:14
WhiteDethcalebt: get laid.01:14
WhiteDethit helps.01:14
bionoidcalebt: drugs.01:14
WhiteDethseriously.01:14
fyrestrtrHappu_: its /media/cdrom001:14
RedGhostI solve it by programming for 12 hours untill i pass out but the easiest way01:15
calebtmarijuana?01:15
WhiteDethget laid or drugs, yep.01:15
RedGhostis to just smoke a joint01:15
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ChickenTalonscalebt, that wont help you sleep at all01:15
Happu_fyrestrtr: yes it's the first one. I need second one.01:15
ChickenTalonsat least youll have a good time awake01:15
jazzrockerRedGhost, ahhh, that explains alot01:15
RedGhostSmoke a bowl or two and watch some t.v. and you'll be out before you know it01:15
Happu_janitor_x: it says the same with every number so I guess I need to add them in fstab or mtab?01:15
RedGhostworks for me01:15
jazzrockergah, a lot, two words01:15
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WhiteDethno dude01:16
WhiteDethGET LAID.01:16
WhiteDethits the only way for guaranteed sleep.01:16
RedGhostI don't get that want to sleep feeling after sex01:16
janitor_xHappu_, i havent tried doing that yet... my system always automatically detects my drives :)01:16
RedGhostI just always want a shower :\01:16
WhiteDethRedGhost: Dirty girlfriend/wife? :\01:16
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RedGhostI don't like being full of sweat01:17
RedGhostcall me crazy01:17
fyrestrtrWhiteDeth: RedGhost take it to #ubuntu-offtopic01:17
WhiteDethI love it.01:17
WhiteDethhaha01:17
Happu_janitor_x: well I'll try to survive. Thanks for help :D01:17
RedGhostYou are crazy then.01:17
WhiteDetham not! Everyone I've slept with has too :P01:17
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RedGhostAll one of them :P01:18
WhiteDethRedGhost: Actually...yes.01:18
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WhiteDethInstaller just gave me the EXACT same error again!?!?! :(01:18
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fildosleep remedy . lots bongs01:19
WhiteDethoh dear.01:19
WhiteDethI clicked Continue.01:19
WhiteDethand it's continuing :|01:19
RedGhostfildo: amen.01:19
WhiteDethuhh...crapp? :\01:19
xopherWhats this error you're getting white?01:19
calebtthanks, i will try the valerian root tea and maybe some weed01:19
RedGhostvalerian what what01:19
RedGhost:S01:19
fildoor melatonin01:19
fildonatural sleeping pills.01:20
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fildoa net eng favourite01:20
WhiteDethxopher: Too late, already clicked Continue. But if it matters...it was..."The test of the file system with type fat16 in partition #1 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) found uncorrected errors."01:20
elkbuntuidle chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic please. drug talk anywhere but either here or there01:20
elkbuntuor any ubuntu channel for that matter01:20
WhiteDethdoes freenode have a #drug channel? :\01:21
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lupine_85ubuntu is an ancient jamacian word meaning "we're all stoned because we smoked weed"01:21
RedGhost:D01:21
lupine_85but yeah, a bit OT ;)01:21
elkbuntuim serious guys, OT to relevant channels01:21
ChickenTalonsdoes seem to be a need for some this evening/morning01:21
camhI rip a CD to AAC according to CDRipping (wiki), but when I try to load these in rhythmbox according to RestrictedFormats (wiki) it will not load them - The MIME type of the file could not be identified. Any ideas how to get rhythmbox to play these?01:21
lupine_85rip them to ogg instead? :)01:22
camhiPod will not play ogg01:22
lupine_85hmm01:22
Telroth_Plushie|caci, do you have libfaac installed?01:22
lupine_85will <anything-but-rhythm-box> play them?01:22
WhiteDethxopher: know anything about that error??01:23
ChickenTalonsspeaking of rip....01:23
lupine_85invalid mimetype means there's no magic at the beginning of the file, the extension is wrong, the file is corrupt or the program doesn't know how to handle the file01:23
camhcommand line faad did not - it said: Error: Channel coupling not yet implemented.01:23
WhiteDethI think my iRiver plays OGG01:23
lupine_85iRiver++ :)01:23
WhiteDethiRiver PMC-120 RAWKS! :D01:23
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Telroth_Plushie|ipods play ogg, but you have to install linux on it.01:23
WhiteDethalthough it runs on Microsoft PMC :(01:24
camhfile(1) just says "data". perhaps the rip was bad...01:24
camhlibfaac0 is installed01:24
ChickenTalonsPrecious Metal Clay?01:24
kamuiIve been meaning to try installing ipodlinux on my second gen 10gig01:24
xopherWhiteDeth, no idea, you should try a low level format ;)01:24
camhTelroth_Plushie|: Sorry. I'll be more precise. iPod firmware does not play ogg :)01:24
kamuiI heard that it skips badly if you do01:24
WhiteDeth50 seconds till my Ubuntu install is done.01:24
kamuiwhen playing mp3s01:24
WhiteDetherr...27.01:24
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Happu_mount: can't find /dev/hdd in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab Anyone has anyclue about how to add this in mtab or fstab?01:25
WhiteDethlol, they're a LOT more on topic than we are here over at #ubuntu-offtopic01:25
AbortD!amarok01:25
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org01:25
RedGhostxmms o:01:26
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lupine_85Happu_: man fstab01:28
frogzooWhiteDeth: oh you're in finally - congrats01:28
lupine_85or if you're just wanting a one-off mount, specify more options on the command line01:28
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WhiteDethfrogzoo: I just clicked Continue this time it gave me the error.01:28
frogzooWhiteDeth: well we'll see...01:29
WhiteDethyeah, install done. restarting now.01:29
frogzoocross fingers01:29
WhiteDethlol as long as my XP install is okay :P01:29
bad_flashhttp://magegame.ru/?rf=5375706572446f67 it is COOL !!! =)01:29
WhiteDethwill it boot straight into it?01:29
WhiteDethooo nice...01:30
lupine_85if you installed grub, you'll be given the choice01:30
WhiteDethlooks like I have.01:30
WhiteDethlol01:30
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WhiteDethOMG YAAAAYYYY01:31
WhiteDethparty at my house!?01:31
WhiteDethLinux installed!? :D01:31
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LiraNunaWhiteDeth, \o/01:31
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bad_flashhttp://magegame.ru/?rf=5375706572446f6701:32
WhiteDethI am officially a geek.01:32
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Telroth_Plushie|lol01:32
Telroth_Plushie|WhiteDeth, have your pocket protector?01:32
wickedpuppyWhiteDeth, actually you are not a geek till you can crash linux at will01:32
WhiteDethpocket protectr?01:32
Telroth_Plushie|wickedpuppy, that's not hard. compiz-start &01:33
Telroth_Plushie|;)01:33
hawkaloogieperl -e"fork while (1);"01:33
richiefrichWhiteDeth how are you a geek01:33
WhiteDethwickedpuppy: Say that about Windows...only, the other way around. You arent a geek untill you can keep windows from crashing ;)01:33
Telroth_Plushie|hawkaloogie, that's not a crash01:33
Telroth_Plushie|just an infinite loop01:33
Telroth_Plushie|one hangs the system01:33
Telroth_Plushie|one kills it01:33
hawkaloogieTelroth_Plushie|, ... try it :p01:33
Telroth_Plushie|subtle differences01:33
WhiteDethnow...big question...what do I do for my WLAN card? It seems the drivers arent loaded :\01:33
tengili just installed php mysql , phpmyadmin and apache2. i created a little info.php to check it works and it does. however when i try to enter the phpmyadmin dir it wont open but instead try to download a file... saying you have choosed to open ... which is a application/x-httpd-php file. why does it do this?01:34
Chousukethere's the Magic sysreq01:34
hawkaloogieit doesn't just hang... it forks a wonderful amount of processes that fork more processes that ... blah blah01:34
ChousukeI don't know how it works, but it can be used to halt the thing as far as I know.01:34
hawkaloogieeach its own little Perl interpreter that likes forking more of itself01:34
hawkaloogieit goes Down :p01:34
ChousukeThat doesn't work on all systems though01:34
Chousukesome have resource limits.01:35
WhiteDeth*cough*01:35
camhThe CDRipping page says to install gstreamer0.8 stuff to encode AAC, but sound-juicer has dependencies on gstreamer0.10 stuff. gst-inspect-0.10 lists no element called ffmux_mp4 - what is the equivalent gstreamer0.10 element?01:35
lupine_85WhiteDeth: what chipset?01:35
WhiteDethIntel 349501:35
lupine_85ah01:35
lupine_85they're a bit of a PITA01:35
WhiteDethgah.01:35
WhiteDeththats my luck.01:35
lupine_85first, is the module loaded? - pastebin the output of lsmod01:36
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WhiteDethwhoa whoa slow there buddy01:36
WhiteDethnow...in English...what?01:36
lupine_85run lsmod in a terminal01:36
lupine_85!pastebin01:36
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:36
lupine_85then do that01:36
WhiteDethwher's terminal?01:36
TeePOGag pfffft01:36
LiraNunaApplications -> Accessories -> Terminal01:37
WhiteDethahh01:37
lupine_85in the menu somewhere :)01:37
WhiteDethcheers01:37
LiraNunathen write lsmod and hit enter01:37
WhiteDethwait lol01:37
WhiteDethhow the hell do I do a pastebin if I cant access the net? :P01:37
LiraNunaerr01:37
LiraNunaIRC is net01:37
lupine_85hmm, good point01:38
WhiteDethI CANT access the net.01:38
richiefrichWhiteDeth your on the net01:38
wols_2 PCs01:38
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LiraNunaoh01:38
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WhiteDeththis is a different laptop01:38
richiefrichWhiteDeth plug it in01:38
wols_he installed while being here01:38
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WhiteDethdo you guys get many people installing while actually inside here?01:38
lupine_85of, run lsmod |grep ipw394501:38
lupine_85ok*01:38
richiefrichWhiteDeth why not just plug in01:39
lupine_85if it says anything, the module is loaded. If not, we get to have some fun01:39
malice_Anyone know of a good HOW-TO url that will tell me how ot spoof my mac addy on my wireless card on my laptop?01:39
WhiteDethrichiefrich: I have a wireless router...why not use it.01:39
WhiteDethand im on a laptop.01:39
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WhiteDethlupine_85: It came up with some stuff...want me to type here?01:39
richiefrichWhiteDeth it's alot easier to do it plugged in01:39
lupine_85just one line?01:39
WhiteDeth2 lines01:39
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lupine_85well, sure01:39
lupine_85stick them on one line with || between them :)01:40
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WhiteDethipw3945     126620     1  ||  ieee80211      37064    1  ipw394501:40
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Guardianhi01:40
lupine_85that's cool01:40
Guardianis it possible to use the same key for PGP and SSH ?01:40
WhiteDethall that typing just for "that's cool"!?!?!01:40
WhiteDeth:P01:41
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lupine_85ok, if you run iwconfig, does it show any interfaces with wireless extensions enabled?01:41
WhiteDethokay, so, what next, good sir?01:41
wols_Guardian: no01:41
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Telroth_Plushie|WhiteDeth, that's awesome!01:41
WhiteDethTelroth_Plushie: YAY! :D01:41
leminowill it slow down a gnome-system to runt KDE-applications on it (and vice verca)? if so, how much?01:41
hawkWhile I understand that the official policy is that universe is unsupported, if I set up an Ubuntu server with Cyrus imapd, etc. Will I be in trouble or will there (in practice) be fixed if security concerns arise?01:41
richiefrichlemino no01:41
lupine_85e.g. ("iwconfig" || eth0      no wireless extensions.) is bad, but ("iwconfig" || rausb0    RT2500USB WLAN  ESSID:"lupine")  is good01:41
Guardianwols_: short and clear thx :)01:42
lupine_85of course, the interface (rausb0 on the above) and most other details will be different for you01:42
chemajalemino, i think it hogs more ram and a little extra cpu01:42
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richiefrichchemaja  not at all01:42
WhiteDethlupine_85: lo - no wireless extensions, eth0: no wireless extensions, eth1: unassociated ESSID:off/any, sit0: no wireless extensions.01:42
chemajalemino, more ram for the new set of libs to be loaded01:42
chemajalemino, a little extra cpu to manage it01:42
lupine_85bwahaha, eth1 is your wireless card01:42
chemajarichiefrich, ?01:42
WhiteDethyou sure it isnt just my network card?01:42
WhiteDethi.e. for LAN?01:42
lupine_85it's your wlan01:43
chemajarichiefrich, AFAIK01:43
richiefrichchemaja why would it it just uses the same amout of ram it would use01:43
WhiteDethso...how's that funny? :\01:43
richiefrichnot true01:43
leminochemaja: aha. i suppose it works the other way around as well?01:43
chemajalemino, more or less01:43
lupine_85never mind - your wireless is working01:43
lupine_85do you have authentication/etc one?01:43
malice_I am using a wireless PC card to get on the net on my laptop on wlan0 will this work to change my mac addy or do I need to change eth0 to wlan0 and what about the ether after the hw?01:43
malice_ifconfig eth0 hw ether 02:01:02:03:04:0801:43
lupine_85on*01:43
leminochemaja: ok. do you know any good IM-client for gnome?01:43
chemajarichiefrich, in relative terms, all other things equal, loading an app written for a different DE causes the deps of that other DE to also be loaded01:43
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WhiteDethlupine_85: authentication i.e. WEP and all that in the router?01:43
leminochemaja: tried Gaim but i'm not satisfied.01:44
lupine_85malice_: iwconfig wlan0 ...01:44
lupine_85WhiteDeth: yes01:44
chemajalemino, i personally use gaim, but i'm starting to hear talk about `gossip'01:44
richiefrichchemaja it only loads the libs it needs just like any other app01:44
WhiteDethlupine_85: Yep, I do.01:44
richiefrichchemaja libs are libs01:44
jribhawk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityUpdateProcedures don't know if that helps01:44
lupine_85ok, you can set WEP easily - "sudo iwconfig eth1 key <blah>"01:44
lupine_85prefix <blah> with s: if it's ascii01:45
wols_richiefrich: but it needs a shitload. reducing available ram, either adding to your swap or removing some diskcache01:45
chemajarichiefrich, yes, but for the gnome desktop, the libs are already loaded (theoretically shared by the already loaded apps)01:45
jribhawk: basically, I interpret that as "no guarantee"01:45
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chemajarichiefrich, obviously it varies from case to case, i'm talking as a general rule01:45
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chemajarichiefrich, ie. libG1 + libG2 + libG3 + appG1 + appG2 + appGn01:45
hawkjrib: Yes, looks like that's about what it says...01:45
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leminochemaja: so i'm thinking about going back to kopete but there's the issue about kde and gnome. and as you understand i'm on gnome.01:45
chemajarichiefrich, then you load appK1, and libK1, libK2 get loaded01:46
richiefrichchemaja as i said not true.. look at say fluxbox so then loading a gnome app it loads the whole DE01:46
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richiefrichno01:46
WhiteDethlupine_85: It asked me for password. Im guessing that means my account password?01:46
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jribhawk: maybe you can contact the maintainer about it though01:46
richiefrichchemaja and it would load that on any wm/DE01:46
lupine_85yes01:46
leminochemaja: is it possible to uninstall all those unneeded kde-libs once you uninstall the kde-application?01:46
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lupine_85sudo gives you root privs for a command, using your user password01:46
WhiteDethlupine_85: I keep typing...but...nothing shows up? :\01:46
lupine_85that's normal01:46
richiefrichlemino you can as long as there not needed01:47
WhiteDethoh okay, done.01:47
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lupine_85just type your password and hit <RETURM>01:47
chillmod1do slow screenseves means wrong grafic  drivers?01:47
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WhiteDethno returm key here.01:47
chemajalemino, i haven't really analysed it that closely... i'm talking theoretically. you'd have to test "gnome + gaim - gaim + kopete" yourself and monitor resource usage01:47
WhiteDeth:P01:47
WhiteDethokay, what next?01:47
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hawkjrib: Yes, I guess I could01:47
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chemajarichiefrich, that's my point exactly... loading the app loads the DE01:47
richiefrichno01:47
wols_chillmod1: depends on the screensaver. if 3D, then you probably only have software 3D support01:47
chemajarichiefrich ...01:47
richiefrichchemaja so if im in flux and load gaim it loads gnome01:48
richiefrichno01:48
chemajarichiefrich, gaim isn't a gnome app01:48
WhiteDethlupine_85: What do I do next to get the internet going?01:48
richiefrichchemaja ok then nautilus01:48
richiefrichchemaja it doesnt load anything it doesnt need01:48
chemajarichiefrich, ok01:48
lupine_85WhiteDeth: sudo dhclient eth101:49
lupine_85you might need to "sudo ifconfig eth1 up" first01:49
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lupine_85bbias01:49
WhiteDetherr...just so we know...I actually dont have a DHCP server running. I've got that off.01:49
hawkThanks jrib01:49
chemajarichiefrich, but it might load gconf/libxml (or whatever) into the background01:49
WhiteDethstatic IP's here all the way baby.01:50
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chemajarichiefrich, kopete might load libkde or whatever01:50
richiefrichchemaja  if they do thats cause they need them to run01:50
chemajarichiefrich, that's what i'm trying to say :D01:50
richiefrichchemaja and thats not the whole DE01:50
richiefrichchemaja is what i mean01:50
chemajarichiefrich, ok ok it doesn't load the whole de01:51
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Telroth_Plushie|libkde is just another library01:51
chemajarichiefrich, go re-read what we write01:51
Telroth_Plushie|just like ssh loading opensll01:51
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chemaja*sighs*01:51
Telroth_Plushie|or something01:51
chemajaok guys np01:51
richiefrichTelroth_Plushie| ty man01:51
Telroth_Plushie|though01:51
Telroth_Plushie|it will start up all of kde's interprocess communication stuff01:51
Telroth_Plushie|but that'll shut down as soon as the app closes01:52
richiefrichnot if it's not installed01:52
chemaja<chemaja> lemino, more ram for the new set of libs to be loaded01:52
chemaja...01:52
Telroth_Plushie|and it sleeps, so i've never see any preformance issues01:52
chemajarichiefrich> chemaja as i said not true.. look at say fluxbox so then loading a gnome app it loads the whole DE01:52
chemaja...01:52
richiefrichchemaja thats for any app01:52
richiefrichof course you'll use more RAM01:52
richiefrichone any app01:52
Telroth_Plushie|chemaja, what we're trying to say is01:52
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richiefrichkde apps in gnome or vise versa doesnt mean any more RAM01:53
chemajachemaja> richiefrich, obviously it varies from case to case, i'm talking as a general rule01:53
chemaja...01:53
Telroth_Plushie|loading a kde app isn't going to use more resources than a gnome app01:53
Telroth_Plushie|in general01:53
richiefrich^^01:53
Telroth_Plushie|it has to load the libraries it uses01:53
Telroth_Plushie|just like a gnome app does01:53
richiefrichjust like any other app01:53
richiefrichgnome/kde/other01:53
richiefrichthey load libs01:53
chemajayeees.01:53
chemajaand he's running..? gnome.01:53
richiefrichSO01:54
Telroth_Plushie|now, if you're running gnome, libgnome is already loaded. just the same, i'm on kde and when i run gnome apps, it has to load libgnome - but it doesn't slow my system down01:54
lupine_85WhiteDeth: oh, ok01:54
WhiteDethyeah.01:54
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JackONeillWould a Nvidia 6200 256mb be better than an Ati Radeon 9500 128mb ?01:54
chemajaso running one extra gnome app will generally use less resources then running a lib-heavy kde app from inside gnome01:54
WhiteDethso it said No DHCPOFFERS01:54
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wols_richiefrich: yes, but kde and gnome apps usually have a shitload of libs. all that component stuff for example01:54
lupine_85in that case... "sudo ip addr add <ip>/<prefix> brd <broadcast> dev eth1"01:54
JackONeillWhiteDeth, not a DAVICOM card is it?01:54
wols_e.g. some even need the ORB or whatever running01:55
richiefrichwols_ if you load the whole DE01:55
WhiteDethJackONeill: Intel 394501:55
JackONeillok01:55
lupine_85^ WhiteDeth: ^01:55
chemajaTelroth_Plushie|, i didn't say "slow down" i said "use more resources"01:55
wols_richiefrich: no, even if you load only a single app. they are built this way01:55
WhiteDethlupine_85: Help me out with that. What's going where? :\01:55
richiefrichwols_ not true01:55
lupine_85we can make it do all this automagically once it's got a workking connection01:55
Telroth_Plushie|chemaja, then yes, it will01:55
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Telroth_Plushie|chemaja, even loading a gnome app in gnome uses more resources01:55
JackONeillBANG! and the dirt is gone01:55
wols_chemaja: it also is slowing down since it usually uses more ressources than a similar app of the "normal" DE. and more ram = speed01:55
lupine_85ok... and example for me would be "sudo ip addr add 81.187.208.241/29 brd 81.187.208.247 dev eth1"01:55
chemajaomg i give up01:55
Jack_Sparrowrichiefrich: chemaja    Seems like all of that would be better off in Offtopic....01:55
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lupine_85that help?01:56
chemajaJack_Sparrow, actually i really can't be bothered arguing anymore... :D thanks.01:56
JackONeillWould a Nvidia 6200 256mb be better than an Ati Radeon 9500 128mb ?01:56
Telroth_Plushie|wols_, kde has 2 libs01:56
Jack_SparrowJackONeill: yes01:56
unfknblvblnvidia >> ati01:56
Telroth_Plushie|libkde and libqt usually01:56
Telroth_Plushie|unfknblvbl, amen01:56
unfknblvbli've had 4 nvidia and 2 ati cards01:56
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unfknblvblnvidia looks better01:57
unfknblvbllasts longer01:57
Telroth_Plushie|chemaja, what are you system specs?01:57
wols_richiefrich: and the gnome app would use the libs already in place, no need for the space libkde and libqt take up in ram01:57
WhiteDethlupine_85: What's the /29 bit?01:57
chemajawols_, heads up for the backup, btw. :D01:57
unfknblvbland the drivers are far better01:57
WhiteDethand what's the IP address after the letters "brd" for?01:57
hawkWhiteDeth: mask01:57
JackONeillunfknblvbl.... and the actual -cards- ?#01:57
unfknblvblyeh they last longer01:57
Jack_Sparrow6600 here01:57
chemajaTelroth_Plushie|, P3 600MHz, 256MB, 20GB, 32MB RIVA TNT, SB Live, cable inet01:57
Telroth_Plushie|cards aren't made by nvidia01:57
WhiteDethIve never had to enter a "mask" before...so uhh...can I just leave it empty? :\01:57
unfknblvblthey don't die01:57
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Jack_Sparrow6600oc actually01:57
JackONeillNO no your missing the point - out of the two I said... which one performs better?01:58
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Jack_Sparrownvidia01:58
Telroth_Plushie|nvidia01:58
chemajaTelroth_Plushie|, why?01:58
JackONeillThat biast basing on the manufacturer or the actual qualities?01:58
unfknblvbln v i d i a01:58
WhiteDethlupine_85: I ended up putting this - "sudo ip addr add 192.168.1.201 brd 192.168.1.1 dev eth1" - is that...uhh correct? :\01:58
JackONeillYeah like I thought, none of you have any idea01:58
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lupine_85nvidia WhiteDeth: that's your subnet mask01:58
JackONeillUseless!01:58
richiefrichwols_  my point is a lib is a lib.. when you open a app it loads what libs it needs uses the RAM it needs and thats that.. no loss of speed  yes it uses more processes thats a given just lick any other app would ..  but i am done..01:58
Telroth_Plushie|chemaja, i was wondering. that setup might notice soem small preformance issues with loading a kde app in gnome, but not much you can do about that if you need that app except for switch to kde01:58
lupine_85omitting it "might" work01:58
Jack_SparrowI have a couple 9200 and 9500 ati and all in wonder... nvidia works better with Linux01:59
lupine_85for you, it's probably /2901:59
JackONeillJack_Sparrow... THATS NOT THE QUESTION!01:59
JackONeillJeez01:59
lupine_85I mean /24!01:59
chemaja*yawn*01:59
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JackONeillI'm not saying... Linux or Windows.... OR! Nvidia or ATI01:59
JackONeillWould a Nvidia 6200 256mb be better than an Ati Radeon 9500 128mb ?01:59
lupine_85erm, and your broadcast isn't going to be .1.1 (that might be your gateway though)01:59
JackONeillTHAT is what I asked01:59
janitor_xJackONeill, 660001:59
deceptaconive checked md5 for ubuntu images that ive burnt to disk. but every time i try to install, i get a message about corrupt file. (is my cdrom being ghey? how do i stop this shite)01:59
WhiteDethso Im not putting my gateway anywhere?01:59
lupine_85it's probably .1.255 (sorry for the enter-spamming!)01:59
wols_JackONeill: it is. you cannot divide the driver from the hardware in graphiccards01:59
lupine_85you will in a second01:59
JackONeilljanitor_x - WHAT 6600?? there is not ANY 6600 here01:59
Jack_SparrowJackONeill: And We ALL answered YES it would be better02:00
lupine_85"sudo ip route add default via 192.168.1.1 dev eth1"02:00
lupine_85got all that? :)02:00
wols_JackONeill: and you are TOTALLY OFF TOPIC in here. this is NOT #hardware02:00
WhiteDethlupine_85: Hold on, what's my broadcast? :\02:00
JackONeillJack_Sparrow - no you all spouted that nvidia was better not that card was02:00
Telroth_Plushie|deceptacon, have your burner software verify the disk after burn, and try a different image burning software02:00
wols_JackONeill: if you ask in here you will get Linux (to be specific Ubuntu) answers. none other02:00
lupine_85probably 192.168.1.25502:00
janitor_xsorry... thought it was 660002:00
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deceptaconTelroth_Plushie|: the cdrom's md5 checksums also match up. its the destination computer's cdrom drive being ghey02:00
lupine_85"sudo ip addr change <ip> brd 192.168.1.255"02:01
wols_JackONeill: so maybe check where you are before asking next time, k?02:01
JackONeillwols_ - Well after I have decided on the better card comes the linux issue - or I wouldnt be here02:01
Jack_SparrowJackONeill: READ... my first answer was simply YES... I went on to add my latest card...02:01
JackONeillSo stfu02:01
WhiteDethlupine_85: I typed that in and it said "RTNETLINK answers: File exists"02:01
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janitor_xJackONeill, maybe u stfu...02:01
wols_JackONeill: please watch your language02:01
JackONeillmebbe NOT02:01
lupine_85ok, delete it instead  - "ip addr del <ip>"02:01
lupine_85then re-add02:01
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WhiteDeth"Not enough information: "dev" argi,emt os reqiored/02:02
wols_!ops could you please tell JackONeill to watch his language. he seems he's an all mighty colonel or something02:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ops could you please tell JackONeill to watch his language. he seems he's an all mighty colonel or something - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:02
WhiteDethwoops02:02
janitor_xthis room is not about which of your card is better... go to off-topic02:02
WhiteDeth"dev" argument is required.02:02
JackONeilllol02:02
lupine_85yep, so add it - ..."dev eth1"02:02
JackONeill!ubotu patronising > wols_02:03
JackONeill:P02:03
lupine_85to the end of whatever command is causing problems02:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about patronising - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:03
lupine_85aww02:03
cpk2would i need to edit my xorg.conf file to make my display resolution bigger? the gui wont let me make it larger02:03
lupine_85!netcop02:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about netcop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:03
lupine_85bah02:03
WhiteDethblah, now it says "RTNETLINK answers: Operation not permitted."02:03
JackONeill!women02:03
ubotuThe women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.02:03
lupine_85sudo... :)02:03
lupine_85!laydeez02:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about laydeez - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:03
Lunar_Lampfor xchat, is a there a package of sound files downloadable anywhere? it seems to have come by default without any sounds, and i want to use some (e.g. play sound on pm) etc02:03
JackONeill!homosexuality02:03
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lupine_85my ubotu-fu must be low...02:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about homosexuality - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:03
WhiteDethlol okay done02:04
WhiteDethnow add again?02:04
lupine_85yep, specifying everything this time :)02:04
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WhiteDethfile still exists.02:04
WhiteDethwhat a fag.02:04
JackONeilllol02:04
lupine_85hmm02:05
lupine_85ip addr show02:05
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zaggynlAnyone knows a Daemontools replacement for Linux?02:05
lupine_85is it there?02:05
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WhiteDethis what wher?02:05
JackONeill!linus02:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:05
lupine_85the ip address entry02:05
WhiteDethoooo02:05
JackONeilleh!?02:05
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lupine_85!RMS02:05
uboturms is Richard Matthew Stallman, founder of the GNU project. See !gnu and also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman02:05
elkbuntu!botabuse02:05
zaggynlLinus Torvalds :>02:05
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops02:05
WhiteDetheth1 has /29 and /24 in it.02:05
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WandererAnyone ever get a gpg pubkey for opera from the sourceomatic?02:05
lupine_85hehe, lol02:05
JackONeillshould be something on linus at least02:05
JackONeilla link or something02:05
wols_zaggynl: not needed. linux can mount ISOs out of the box. other things need to be converted to iso first tho02:05
lupine_85ok, delete them both02:06
lupine_85bchunk++02:06
zaggynlwols_, but can that be done with a pretty GUI>02:06
WhiteDethbut I just deleted one of em. Is it because I kept adding the broadcast IP as 192.168.1.1 ?02:06
wols_zaggynl: no clue02:06
WhiteDethlupine: nevermind, got it :D02:07
WhiteDethnow it shows none there.02:07
wickedpuppyzaggynl, mounting an iso isn't that hard :P02:07
WhiteDethgonna add again now02:07
lupine_85ok, now add :)02:07
WhiteDethsweet, done.02:07
zaggynlI just found cdemu02:07
zaggynlseems to benice02:07
lupine_85now do the ip route command02:07
Telroth_Plushie|zaggynl, not really. you could set it up, but if it's an iso it's easier to just "sudo mount /path/to.iso /mount/point -o loop02:07
zaggynlI haven a .bin though02:08
Telroth_Plushie|err, do you have a .cue as well?02:08
zaggynlyup02:08
wols_zaggynl: google bin2iso02:08
Telroth_Plushie|.bin/.cure can be converted02:08
Telroth_Plushie|*cue02:08
JackONeill!thischannel02:08
Telroth_Plushie|then just mount like iso02:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thischannel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:08
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lupine_85you can write your own .cue if you need to :)02:08
lupine_85bit of guesswork though02:08
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WhiteDethlupine_85: Done! :D02:08
Telroth_Plushie|bbl, school02:08
zaggynlmeh02:09
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lupine_85now ping...02:09
WhiteDethstraight out like in CMD in windows?02:09
lupine_85yep02:09
lupine_85ping blah02:09
hydrooh my goodness, there are 800+ people in this room. yikes02:09
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WhiteDeth"ping: unknown host www.google.com" :(02:09
JackONeill!myself,you,here,or anything else02:09
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about myself,you,here,or anything else - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:09
Jack_Sparrowgoogle ip  216.239.39.9902:10
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Intimate`Hello.02:10
WhiteDethDestination Host unreachable.02:10
Intimate`is it possible to boot Ubunto from cd?02:10
lupine_85ok.. can you ping the router?02:10
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WhiteDethhow do I stop the ping first lol02:10
wickedpuppyIntimate`, yes02:11
lupine_85ctrl+c02:11
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WhiteDethnope, unreachable as well.02:11
lastnodeIntimate`, it is a live cd02:11
Intimate`wickedpuppy: so it will not install but I can use it while cd is in?02:11
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Intimate`oh good.02:11
Jack_SparrowIntimate`: yes02:11
wickedpuppyIntimate`, yes02:11
Intimate`I'll download it then.02:11
Intimate`:)02:11
Intimate`lol02:11
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gilianimahi02:11
Intimate`hi02:11
lastnodeIntimate`, you can try it, and then if you like it, you can install it02:11
wickedpuppyIntimate`, hmms ... so you are totally new to linux ?02:11
lupine_85ok... so you're not connected to the AP, presumablt02:11
lupine_85y*02:12
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hernanalguien habla espaol?02:12
wickedpuppy!es02:12
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:12
Jack_Sparrow!es02:12
lupine_85do iwconfig eth1 ...02:12
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Armagguedeshello02:12
gilianimahow to see what packages containing "java" in their name are installed on my system, using command line ?02:12
lastnodehi Armagguedes02:12
Intimate`wickedpuppy: umm.. I have some experience, only some commands02:12
lastnodegilianima, apt-cache search java02:12
Intimate`wickedpuppy: pm for talk02:12
WhiteDethwhat am I looking for here?02:12
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lupine_85Does "Access Point:" have anything?02:12
JackONeill!ubuntu02:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:12
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WhiteDethNot associated02:12
WhiteDeth:\02:13
Armagguedescan someone tell me of a good Podcast?. im looking for tech, anime or related podcasts. i was kinda hoping someone knew about tech/linux podcasts here02:13
zaggynlMakefile:67: *** You'll need at least 2.6.16 kernel.  Stop.02:13
zaggynl..02:13
gilianimalastnode: i need the list among already installed package02:13
zaggynlI have .2902:13
WhiteDethhold a sec, switching PC's.02:13
wickedpuppyIntimate`, hmms ... sorry no pm .. well if you know linux then its fine .. if not pls ask help from a local guru .. for a completely new user .. but you are not so yah .. enjoy!!02:13
lupine_85ok... try specifying the essid: "sudo iwconfig eth1 essid <blah>"02:13
Intimate`thanks.02:13
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Intimate`wickedpuppy: how would I connect to my wireless with ubuntu?02:13
gilianimalastnode: and with java only in the name02:13
lastnodegilianima, man apt-get, i forget the flag02:14
WhiteDethyou want me to enter that 32 digit code again!? gah lol02:14
lupine_85no...02:14
lupine_85ok... try specifying the essid: "sudo iwconfig eth1 essid <blah>"02:14
wickedpuppyIntimate`, thats a very big question ... do you have supported hardware ? are drivers installed ? so manyyyy things ...02:14
hydroI was wondering if anyone might be able to  help ... I have an IBM Thinkpad X41 and just got Dapper Drake installed successfully. I have an Airport Express and the WiFi connection seems to be recognized (eth1) ... but I noticed that Dapper Drake takes a long time too change Locations in the Interface Properties (Networking). I created a new Location but whenever I reboot the machine, the Location is not used as default. Any help is apprecia02:14
lupine_85e.g. "lupine" for me. could be anything for you02:14
Intimate`wickedpuppy: yes, I am on my wireless now.02:14
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WhiteDethlupine_85: My ESSID = my WEP key, right?02:14
aeroSouldoes anyone know where the outgoing mail from postfix is stored? or how i delete them... popularity-contest scripts tries to send mail but i dont have any external smtp servers setup in postfix02:15
JackONeillhydro, it's just crap02:15
wickedpuppyIntimate`, linux ?02:15
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lupine_85WhiteDeth: no02:15
hydroJackONeill what you do you mean? Should I ignore Locations?02:15
ziro01yo02:15
ziro01out of interest02:15
Thurynhello02:15
WhiteDethoh02:15
Thuryntell me02:15
WhiteDethcrap02:15
Intimate`wickedpuppy: I am running windows.02:15
lupine_85it's your "ssid", if that helps02:15
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JackONeillhydro, ignore all of it02:15
WhiteDethoh, router name.02:15
WhiteDethrighteo02:15
lupine_85you might be able to get it from sudo iwlist eth1 scan02:15
hydroJackONeill what? You mean don't use Ubuntu at all?02:15
JackONeillhydro, yup02:15
wickedpuppyIntimate`, you are aware that whats compitable on windows doesn't mean it will work the same way on linux right ?02:16
hydroJackONeil why?02:16
JackONeillhydro, crap02:16
WhiteDethlupine_85: Naw, saved in my PSP...just a sec02:16
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Intimate`wickedpuppy: yeah02:16
JackONeillhydro, in a month there will be a new one02:16
lupine_85lol02:16
lupine_85dist-upgrade++02:16
JackONeillhydro, ignore that too02:16
hydroJackONeill: do you think the next version in a month will also be crap?02:16
koDiaccis there a german firefox package in apt? or do i have to install it manually?02:16
wickedpuppyIntimate`, well first just enjoy the live cd :P and try to configre wireless on it ... come here for help if needed .. :P02:16
JackONeillhydro, yup02:16
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janitor_xbecause he is actually a crap too02:16
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janitor_xlol02:16
Jack_Sparrow!ops02:16
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hydroJackONeill: would it be better to try and hack Mac OS X on the ThinkPad?02:16
wols_ /var/spool/postfix somewhere afaik02:17
mmousecan anybody tell me, if it's possible to update a hoary box to dapper. This is a remote server, so I got no desktop packages, ssh only access, and a complete reinstall is no option...02:17
JackONeillhydro, yup02:17
hydroJackONeill: have you tried that before?02:17
lupine_85mmouse: yes. upgrade to breezy first02:17
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aeroSoulwols_: i'll have a look02:17
JackONeillhydro, linux just is not very adaptive in many situations - you found one02:17
Intimate`wickedpuppy: ok will do.. downloading now.. do I get the i836 or whatever version?02:17
JackONeillhydro, will be one day, just not today02:17
lupine_85going direct to dapper is unsupported02:17
wickedpuppyIntimate`, that depends on ya chip of course02:17
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hydroJackONeill: but I thought Ubuntu is the bomb?02:17
JackONeillhydro, bollox02:18
Intimate`wickedpuppy: it's a intel02:18
WhiteDethlupine_85: Done.02:18
wols_JackONeill: please don't advocate illegal behaviour02:18
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hydroJackONeill: but everyone is hyper about open source and how it will doom Microsoft02:18
DBOJack_Sparrow??02:18
Jack_SparrowJackONeill: is being disruptive and disrespectful to the channel02:18
wickedpuppyIntimate`, intel also has 64 bit ...02:18
JackONeillhydro, sure, linux is great02:18
wols_DBO: JackONeill is trolling02:18
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WhiteDethlupine_85: Woohoo! I can ping my router! :D02:18
lupine_85WhiteDeth: cool02:18
mmouselupine: the update faq says something about mandatory install of the "ubuntu-desktop" package. Do you know why? (i really don't want kde/gnome on this box...)02:18
wols_and advocating illegal behaviour02:18
Intimate`wickedpuppy: dont think it is 64.02:18
JackONeillwols_ - No I am being honest... don't be such a dictator02:18
JackONeilland you Jack_Sparrow02:18
hydroJackONeill I think you had a bad day with Ubuntu today ... the other guy Jack Sparrow said you are being disruptive02:18
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DBOJackONeill, this is not the forum to discuss those issues, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic02:19
lupine_85now, run: sudo echo "nameserver <ip>" >> /etc/resolv.conf02:19
Intimate`wickedpuppy: i'll get the i8** version. Thanks.02:19
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wickedpuppyIntimate`, well then 386 will do fine :P after that you can find out about ya chip from linux :P02:19
lupine_85ip is probably your router ip02:19
DBOJackONeill, this room is for tech support only02:19
WhiteDethlupine_85: What;s that for?02:19
hydroDBO: thanks02:19
JackONeillDBO, thats exactly what I gave02:19
lupine_85dns02:19
JackONeillread before you critise02:19
WhiteDethaahh02:19
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JackONeillhydro, if you want something thats hassle free and can do what you need quickly without fuss on the go... it's a no with linux02:20
lupine_85now ping www.google.co.uk should work fine02:20
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WhiteDethlupine_85: bash: /etc/resolv.conf: Permission denied"02:20
hydroDBO: can you make any recommendations regarding Locations in Network Settings? It seems very slow to change profiles after I have created a new Location and when I reboot, the Location I want to use is not used.02:20
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lupine_85sudo...02:20
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WhiteDethi did02:20
WhiteDethi swear :P02:20
WhiteDethlol02:20
lupine_85ok, use ">" instead of ">>"02:20
hydroJackONeill: I think all operating systems are a hassle ... so far I think Mac OS X is the best.02:20
lupine_85(replace instead of append)02:20
WhiteDethstill same02:21
DBOhydro, edit your /etc/network/preferences to reflect what you want to be default02:21
lupine_85ok... sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf02:21
JackONeillhydro, MacOS is nice, but apple is a half breed of evil... not as bad as M$ tho02:21
lupine_85then add it in there :)02:21
hydroDBO: Thank you02:21
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WhiteDethlupine_85: lol. How?02:21
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hydroJackONeill: yes, I agree about Apple, this is why I am hopeful for Ubuntu02:21
WhiteDeththis all looks WAY too much like OSX86.02:21
JackONeillhydro, ubuntu is a phase02:22
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lupine_85by typing "nameserver <IP>" into the editor that appears...02:22
hydroJackONeill: a phase toward what end?02:22
JackONeillhydro, nothing at all02:22
DBOhydro, please just ignore him02:22
lupine_85then ctrl+o (then <RETURN> to save)02:22
lupine_85the ctrl+x to exit02:22
Jack_SparrowJackONeill: Is a Phase... soon to be phased out...02:22
WhiteDethsweet02:22
WhiteDethdone02:22
WhiteDethtesting now02:22
WhiteDethnope, unknowng host. I screwed up somewhere -_-02:23
hydroJackONeill: I'm all for being honest, but quite frankly I am very happy to be running Ubuntu today and I know its not perfect, so my expectations are just fine02:23
lupine_85argh02:23
WhiteDethlupine_85: Fixed!02:23
wols_  hydro don't feed02:23
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lupine_85woo!02:23
WhiteDethlol, im the biggest idiot EVER.02:23
JackONeillhydro, there are more user friendly ideas that ubuntu refuses to implement and the marketting is not that good... won't catch o as much as it should do02:23
lupine_85nah :)02:23
WhiteDethI wrote "nameserver <IP>" with quotes :P02:23
WhiteDethlol!02:23
lupine_85bwahahahaha02:23
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lupine_85ok... sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces02:23
WhiteDethrealized wtf I had done02:23
lupine_85we make it permanent and automatic now02:24
WhiteDethoh02:24
WhiteDethokay it loaded this file02:24
lupine_85first look for the two lines "auto eth1" and "iface eth1 inet static" ... if they aren't there, put them in02:24
lupine_85you might have iface eth1 inet dhcp - if so just edit dhcp->static02:24
WhiteDeththey're there02:25
WhiteDethbut it says iface eth1 inet dhcp :\02:25
WhiteDethchange to static?02:25
lupine_85yep02:25
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WhiteDethdone sir02:25
hydroDBO: on my system, there is no such file as /etc/network/preferences02:25
JackONeillof course not02:25
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godfatherg' days02:25
godfatherguys02:25
wols_hydro: /etc/network/interfaces02:26
DBOhydro, sorry, /etc/network/interfaces, I just woke up02:26
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godfatheri have a question02:26
wols_for how to config man interfaces02:26
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hydrothanks DBO and wols_02:26
lupine_85you then want to add some lines right after the iface line:- "wireless-key <key>" | "wireless-essid <essid>" | "address <ip>"| netmask 255.255.255.002:26
godfatheri wish to learn making web pages02:26
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godfatheri've asked all around02:26
godfatherand nowadays02:26
jrib!enter02:26
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.02:26
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WhiteDeth| = linebreak?02:26
lupine_85yep02:26
JackONeill!linux02:26
ubotulinux: Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.25 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB02:26
jribgodfather: do you want to learn html?02:26
godfatherthe .net windows platform seems to be the best02:26
daoIs it true that the regular Dapper-install won't let me choose where to install GRUB?02:27
godfatherthey talk me about dream weaver02:27
lupine_85then dns-nameserver <ip> | "gateway <ip>"02:27
lupine_85!nvu#02:27
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hydroDBO:  if I want to  make one of my locations the default one to use, how would I enter that into /etc/network/interfaces ? I see only entries in interfaces currently such as "auto eth1", etc.02:27
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jribgodfather: try not to use the enter key as punctuation02:27
lupine_85or just use jmarshall.com along with kate or gedit02:27
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godfatherwith it u can use php, perl ,flash altogether making a real good job02:28
WhiteDethlupine: when I enter address <IP> thats my IP right?02:28
JackONeillBLUE!02:28
wols_godfather: .net might be the best way for windosw, however most websites run on apache2 under *nix, and .net is not the best there02:28
DBOhydro, you just fill the information in there, google will show you how to do things if you are confused, im rather busy right now however02:28
godfatherdoes exist somthing similar on linux platform?02:28
WhiteDethlupine: and dns <IP> is what? :\02:28
lupine_85your IP, yes02:28
JackONeillhydro, amusing isn't it?02:28
hydroDBO: thank, I'll Google it02:28
lupine_85dns-nameserver <IP> is the ip of the router,  usually02:28
hydroJackONeill: I do agree with you in some regards ... this is why Microsoft charges money for support.02:29
JackONeillhydro, have fun in your never ending maze02:29
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WhiteDethlupine: So it'll be the same as the gateway IP02:29
wols_hydro: he will heckle until you ignore him02:29
Noxvillehello.02:29
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WhiteDethokay, added all lines02:29
hydrowols_: thanks for the heads up ... but JackONeill isn't really heckling me02:29
JackONeilli'm just trying to be -upbeat- :P02:30
WhiteDethCtrl+O and Ctrl+x now?02:30
lupine_85yep02:30
wols_hydro: it's still trolling02:30
WhiteDethdone02:30
lupine_85then on a reboot your net shoudl work automagically02:30
WhiteDethlol.02:30
WhiteDethtime to test this!02:30
JackONeillhydro, everyone is a facist dictator here... if you step out of line you get shot02:30
JackONeillit's like efnet02:30
godfatherso does exist a big platform on linux to make web pages02:30
Morticehydro: no, but he is trolling, and you're feeding him02:30
hydrowols_: what does trolling mean?02:30
Noxvilleany1 know what the package is for random quote generator???02:30
lupine_85!nvu02:30
ubotunvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 8343 kB, installed size 26440 kB02:30
Juhaz!ops02:30
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lupine_85hydro: people posting stuff just to get a reaction and disrupt the channel.mailing list02:30
wickedpuppyNoxville, fortune ?02:31
lupine_85best bet is /ignore when that happens02:31
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DBOJuhaz?02:31
Noxvillewhy thank you... its been a while02:31
Jack_Sparrow!troll02:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:31
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JackONeillwatch this :P (go ahead)02:31
hydrolupine_85: oh, I see ... yeah, I don't think of myself as troll bait so I will be ignoring tolls now02:31
JackONeillprove my point02:31
DBOJackONeill, please take the off topic chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic02:31
JackONeillThis was on topic and you know it02:32
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muntiHi, what do I thow do I set permissions drwxr-xr-x on my current user, I have su access02:32
hydroJackONeill: that is not really kind of you to troll in a public chat room where people come for assistance02:32
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lupine_85hmm, I dunno... you look convincing ;)02:32
jribthis is ridiculous, just ban him.  Thank you02:32
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muntihow do I set permissions drwxr-xr-x on my current user, I have su access02:32
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muntisorry for that02:32
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lupine_85sudo chmod 755 <blah>02:32
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kling0n!libvisual02:32
WhiteDethlupine! :D Ping is working after reboot!02:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libvisual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:32
WhiteDethnow to try the internet :D02:33
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Intimate`wickedpuppy: so what must I do to be able to connect to my wireless?02:33
muntilupine_85: thx02:33
FurryNemesis!vpn02:33
frogzoomunti: chmod 75502:33
ubotuFrom more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD02:33
lupine_85mwahahaha02:33
kling0n!libvisual0.402:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libvisual0.4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:33
kling0n!libvisual0.202:33
ubotulibvisual0.2: Audio visualization framework. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.0-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 70 kB, installed size 228 kB02:33
Tamihola!!02:33
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wickedpuppyIntimate`, well ... wireless card is a starter ... and see if linux can recognise it ..02:33
Jack_SparrowDBO: thank you02:33
lupine_85hola02:33
lupine_85!es02:33
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:33
daoI'm about to install Dapper, but I don't want to install GRUB on the Master Boot Record... is it true that with the regular Dapper-installation it is not possible to install GRUB other then on the MBR location?02:33
WhiteDethholy crap it worked!! :D02:33
WhiteDethLupine_85: I owe you biiiiiiiiiig! Thanks a lot!! :D02:33
lupine_85dao: use the alternative install CD02:33
lupine_85!alternate02:33
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.02:33
Intimate`wickedpuppy: I used back|track and that managed to reconise it02:33
WhiteDethlupine_85 for op! :P02:33
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WhiteDeth:D02:34
lupine_85hehe02:34
lupine_85j/k02:34
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WhiteDethnow...time to go find me a good IRC client02:34
Jack_Sparrowlupine_85: Nice work with that..02:34
wickedpuppywhats back|track ?02:34
WhiteDethim sick of chatzilla02:34
WhiteDethits fugly02:34
WhiteDethis there a mIRC for Linux?02:34
wickedpuppyWhiteDeth, xchat02:34
Intimate`wickedpuppy: network secuirty version of linux02:34
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lupine_85Jack_Sparrow: np :). good job he was using edgy though02:34
daolupine_85, oke great :-)02:35
user42hello...\02:35
WhiteDethxchat it is.02:35
wickedpuppyIntimate`, ah i see ... well then can you surf the net ?02:35
Jack_SparrowWhiteDeth: I like Konversation.. but I am probably in the minority on that one02:35
lupine_85ipw3495 + dapper is a PITA02:35
ptenfHi all. Suggestions how I can get russian characters display properly in the console? I need both russian and english.. Thank you02:35
Murchadhwould someone please help me....I have breezy installed but i notice on the update manager that it has an option to "upgrade" to dapper...what I would like to know is, if i click on "upgrade" will it just upgrade my breezy painlessly to dapper or will it require me to install dapper as a new version beside breezy?02:35
Intimate`wickedpuppy: didnt know how to connect lol02:35
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frogzoo!fonts > Murchadh02:35
wickedpuppyIntimate`, how did you know that distro recognise the card ?02:35
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frogzoo!fonts > ptenf02:35
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frogzoosoz Murchadh02:35
user42quick question, now that I have completely hosed X attempting to install Xgl, how do I reconfigure X in ubuntu? the standard X conf console utilities don't appear to exist.02:35
Intimate`wiccked: i did the command that tells you what cards you have installed or something02:36
wols_user42: didn't you make backups?  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:36
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frogzoo!xorg02:36
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:36
Noxvillehow do you output fortunes to a file???02:36
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wickedpuppyIntimate`, well then can you run that method again ?02:36
lupine_85Real Men Don't Back Up02:36
Noxville!fortune02:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fortune - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:36
lupine_85Noxville: fortune > file02:36
jribNoxville: fortune > file02:36
wols_Murchadh: it will upgrade your breezy02:36
user42quit02:36
Noxvillelupine, isn't that for only one fortune? i need many02:37
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WhiteDethlupine_85: Now tomorrow im gonna be asking you to help me install AIGXL and Beryl on this :P02:37
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Murchadhthank you wols_02:37
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lupine_85then stick it in a for loop?02:37
wickedpuppyNoxville, then  you write a loop in bash02:37
jribdon't the fortunes come from a file?02:37
lupine_85or just grab them from the furtunes file directly02:37
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wols_jrib: it does02:37
Noxvillehlp. please. i = n00b02:37
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lupine_85pretty easy02:37
Noxvillewell wheres that file then02:37
Noxville?02:37
lupine_85% separates entries, IIrC02:38
WarboHas anyone tried using the soundconverter program to get Ogg Vorbis out of Musepack? I have the gstreamer0.8 plugin but it just waits a few seconds then says "Done in 5 seconds" (which it blatantly hasn't)02:38
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jribNoxville: /usr/share/games/fortunes/02:38
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Noxvilledankeshun02:38
Intimate`wickedpuppy: i'll find the command for you02:38
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PunjabiFLOYDIAN!dist-upgrade02:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dist-upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:39
Intimate`wickedpuppy: ifconfig -a02:39
wickedpuppyIntimate`, so ... your card is recognised now ?02:39
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PunjabiFLOYDIANpeople i need your help. how can i get the IP of a person with whom i m chatting using Gaim?02:40
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wickedpuppyPunjabiFLOYDIAN, may we ask why ?02:40
lupine_85PunjabiFLOYDIAN: the protocol is designed so you can't do that02:40
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WarboPunjabiFLOYDIAN: Type into the message window "Excuse me, what is your IP?"02:40
PunjabiFLOYDIANLOL02:40
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PunjabiFLOYDIANwickedpuppy: Prorat02:40
PunjabiFLOYDIANgot it?02:40
Intimate`wickedpuppy: well I did 'iwconfig' and it reconised my card02:41
wickedpuppyprorat ?02:41
Noxvillehow do you host a ftp server off ubuntu?02:41
PunjabiFLOYDIANi m a stupid script kiddie02:41
PunjabiFLOYDIANyeah google prorat02:41
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wols_Noxville: install vsftpd02:41
lupine_85oooh free pr0n02:41
PunjabiFLOYDIANwhat is hax0rz?02:41
Noxvillelink?02:41
lupine_85or pureftpd... or proftpd...02:41
FurryNemesishello all02:41
lupine_85!vsftpd02:41
ubotuvsftpd: The Very Secure FTP Daemon. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 107 kB, installed size 404 kB02:41
Warboyo02:41
FurryNemesishow can I connect via vpn to my uni network?02:42
lastnodedoes k3b burn .bin files?02:42
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WarboSamba?02:42
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wickedpuppyIntimate`, well then you go to system -> preference -> networking and config the wireless pls02:42
Warbolastnode: Get bchunk, it will convert it to iso02:42
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lastnodeWarbo, thanks, i have a stupid movie im dlding02:42
lastnode.bin02:42
lastnodeim like wth? :-)02:42
PunjabiFLOYDIANanyone know how to convert WAV to MP3 on LInux?02:42
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Intimate`wickedpuppy: will do when I boot from ubuntu, thanks.02:43
WarboPunjabiFLOYDIAN: Use LAME02:43
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PunjabiFLOYDIANLAME. where to get it?02:43
user42back in X... thanks whoever mentioned the dpk-reconfigure thing... that was most helpful..02:43
Warbo!info lame02:43
ubotulame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB02:43
wickedpuppyIntimate`, no prob :P02:43
Intimate`:D02:43
stikifhi i was trying out vista the other day and it seems to have wiped out grub , i currently am in the live version of ubuntu 5.10, is there a way to reload my original grub from the live cd?02:43
Warbo!grub > stikif02:43
stikif!grub02:43
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:43
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WarboWhy does everyone do that?02:43
PunjabiFLOYDIANcause its a bot02:44
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PunjabiFLOYDIANLOL02:44
wickedpuppystikif, windows doesn't like to share :P02:44
hydroGood by JackONeill -- be good and don't troll too much!02:44
WarboWriting "!something > someone" then "someone" types "!something"02:44
PunjabiFLOYDIANLOL02:44
Khamaelis there a graphical frontend to qemu?02:44
PunjabiFLOYDIANhey anyone know any good tutorial on IRC02:44
Khamaelor a good howto?02:45
wols_PunjabiFLOYDIAN: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/faq.html02:45
WarboKhamael: I think some have been made, but the command line options have changed round a bit recently02:45
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PunjabiFLOYDIANwols_ thanks02:45
KhamaelWarbo: worth a try.. is it in any ubuntu repo?02:45
WarboEg. "--user-net" is not "--net user"02:45
WarboKhamael: None in Ubuntu02:46
PunjabiFLOYDIANjust wondering - is the Linux kernel written in C?02:46
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jribis it possible for evolution to automatically download mail from pop.gmail and place it in appropriate virtual folders that correspond to the labels it has been given with gmail?02:46
wickedpuppyPunjabiFLOYDIAN, you can see for yourself :P Thats the power of linux02:46
PunjabiFLOYDIANis it for real? I mean : is it compiled on the fly?02:46
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PunjabiFLOYDIANJIT type of thing?02:46
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WarboPunjabiFLOYDIAN: The source is available to download02:47
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kamuijrib, been tryin to do that for a long time02:47
PunjabiFLOYDIANok...02:47
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wols_PunjabiFLOYDIAN: Yes C. C is never compiler just in time02:47
wickedpuppyPunjabiFLOYDIAN, i would like to know who told you about linux kernel being jit ...02:47
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wols_PunjabiFLOYDIAN: C is always compiled to machine code02:47
PunjabiFLOYDIANwickedpuppy: My stupid sick mind02:47
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wickedpuppymight be interesting to talk to02:47
wickedpuppyah k02:47
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jribkamui: hmm ok02:48
PunjabiFLOYDIANso all you guys no C also. and u r linux geeks. what else you want? ur evolution is complete02:48
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WarboI can't program to save my life (although I have now had a single lecture on basic Java)02:48
lupine_85there's a JIT version of C...02:48
frogzoo_when my pppoe drops out, it fails to reconnect - I have to restart pppd - any ideas ?02:49
kamuijrib: the best Ive been able to do is set the same rules in evolution as I did in gmail to apply the labels.  GMail popping doesn't append the labels unfortunately to the subject so there isn't any other way afaik02:49
WarboBut I already knew what a variable was...02:49
PunjabiFLOYDIANsee. and u guys were laughing at me.02:49
wickedpuppyPunjabiFLOYDIAN, pls do not generalise ... not all know C and now all are linux geeks ... :P02:49
jribkamui: ah I see.  Yeah, that is what I'll have to do.  Thanks02:49
PunjabiFLOYDIANLOL02:49
kamuijrib: by using the same rules I have mail sorted automagically02:49
Noxvillehave a permanent ping running that connects only when you don't recieve ping02:49
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kamuijrib: np02:49
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Noxvilleany1 know perl?02:49
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KhamaelWarbo: found qemu-launcher, but it says it needs qemu. but I have qemu02:49
ffDDuanyone here know howto use regexp syntaxes02:49
kamuiwhat DOES punjabi mean02:50
wickedpuppyNoxville, #perl02:50
rambo3!offtopic02:50
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!02:50
kamui;)02:50
jribffDDu: probably a few people, what is your question? :)02:50
Noxvilleah.. the light..02:50
wols_kamui: someone from punjab?02:50
PunjabiFLOYDIANnice. Punjab is  a place in Pakistan. I am from there.02:50
ffDDui couldnt make rexexp that would take every .mp3 file that does not have (LOWQ) text in it02:50
PunjabiFLOYDIANLOL. Exactly. Punjab + People from There = Punjabis02:50
WhiteDethquestion about xchat...02:50
WarboKhamael: Yeah, I think I have a package of that. I don't know how I installed it (since I comnpiled my own qemu), I think maybe extracting it, changing the dependencies then repackaging it might work02:50
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jribffDDu: in what context?02:50
ffDDuso .mp3 that DOES NOT have (lowq)02:50
wedgeVis there a repo that provides the latest alsa packages?02:50
ffDDujrib in filename02:50
rambo3So when you call dell support you get to talk to family members ,02:50
kamuilolololololx, i suppose I've been lead astray02:51
WhiteDethWhat can I do in xchat so it'll show me the status of the person im talking to? Like +o or +v etc??02:51
jribffDDu: what program are you using the regexp in?02:51
KhamaelWarbo: think I`ll settle for a nice howto  ;-)02:51
kamuiwhihtedeth: xchat automatically colors nicks according to their status02:51
ffDDujrib some download manager02:51
PunjabiFLOYDIANfor all those curious bout me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punjabis02:51
zaggynlIs there a way to change the icon of an excisting Launcher, without having to create a new Launcher?02:51
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WhiteDethoh02:51
ffDDui need regexp like: "This But Not This"02:51
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WhiteDethCOLORS nicks.02:51
WhiteDethso blue = +o?02:51
wickedpuppyzaggynl, right click and properties02:52
ffDDuso like "Make Excpetion When This02:52
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DBO.cs o02:52
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WarboKhamael: All I remember is -hda for HD, -cdrom for CD (or use -hdc), -fda for floppy, -boot X to boot from device X in MSDOS style (a, c or d), and occasionally -soundhw sb16 (I think) for sound02:52
zaggynlwickedpuppy, okay02:53
zaggynlwickedpuppy, and then?02:53
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lupine_85sd* can also be hard discs02:53
Warbolupine_85: In Qemu?02:53
lupine_85oh, not sure then :)02:53
wickedpuppyzaggynl, click on the icon ?02:53
kamuiwhitedeath: I think the default is green is an op, yellow is +v.  Mine actually places a small circle next to the name in the users list, and when they send a message with my nick in it, the color of their nick at the beginning of the message is the color of their status.  Also dark grey nicks are AFK02:54
lupine_85depends on how it presents them I guess02:54
zaggynlahhh02:54
PunjabiFLOYDIANis wine able to run any windows software?02:54
WarboThe - is because those are commandline options for Qemu :)02:54
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wickedpuppyPunjabiFLOYDIAN, any as in all ? nope ...02:54
zaggynlwickedpuppy, didn't expect that, thanks :D02:54
wickedpuppy:P02:54
lupine_85PunjabiFLOYDIAN: it does notepad exceptionally well02:54
POVaddctlupine_85: qemu emulates ide harddisks only02:54
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lupine_85ok, thanks :)02:54
PunjabiFLOYDIANLO02:54
PunjabiFLOYDIANLOL02:54
Intimate`Warbo: if you type in -hda does it take you to your hard drive ect.?02:54
WarboIntimate`: You mean "qemu -hda XXXXXXX"?02:54
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Intimate`Warbo: yah.. is it. qemu -hda c?02:55
WarboIt IS possible to use "qemu -hda /dev/hda" but not advised. If you run the same OS twice the filesystem becomes readonly and everything screws up :)02:55
POVaddctIntimate`: no, the -hda option requires a filename which is handles as a harddisk image02:55
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POVaddctIntimate`: plus what Warbo said02:55
PunjabiFLOYDIAN!LVM02:56
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO02:56
ffDDuhey someone help me with RegExp02:56
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PunjabiFLOYDIAN!RegExp02:56
wedgeVis there a repo that provides the latest alsa packages?02:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about RegExp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:56
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Intimate`Thanks.02:56
wickedpuppyffDDu, if i were you i ask in a programming channel ... honestly02:56
WarboIntimate`: The "a", "c" and "d" are used for the -boot option, to make qemu boot floppy, HD or CD02:56
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ffDDuwickedpuppy i dont know any02:56
Intimate`oh ok02:56
wickedpuppy#perl is a good start02:56
PunjabiFLOYDIANgoodbye people. happy hacking.02:57
POVaddct!mmsrip02:57
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silent_screamwhat is the difference between two kernels? i.e. 2.6.15 and 2.6.17 ?02:57
lupine_85silent_scream: lots :)02:57
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Lunar_Lampfor xchat, is a there a package of sound files downloadable anywhere? it seems to have come by default without any sounds, and i want to use some (e.g. play sound on pm) etc?02:58
wickedpuppysilent_scream, 0.0.0202:58
lupine_85read the changelog if you're really interested02:58
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silent_screamc'mon now.. :D02:58
Jack_Sparrowsilent_scream: 0.0.02  :)02:58
jUggERNAUt1980hi all, can you see my message here?02:58
Warbosilent_scream: Various updates. For example, 2.6.15 doesn't contain ueagle-atm USB modem driver or CELL processor support, among other things02:58
lupine_85hang on, I'll paste it into the channel for you... ;)02:58
lupine_85(/k!)02:58
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wickedpuppyjUggERNAUt1980, nope02:58
POVaddctwickedpuppy: hehehe. i'd say: diff -Nru linux-2.6.15 linux-2.6.1702:58
WarboActually it is 0.0.202:58
wickedpuppyi can't see your message02:58
Jack_SparrowSome of are too literal02:58
wickedpuppyoh yah02:58
wickedpuppypardon my math :P02:59
silent_screamWarbo, you mean some modules ha? is it faster or something?02:59
jUggERNAUt1980wickedpuppy, thanks:  ;)02:59
WarboMathematically .11 is "point one one", but since Linux gets updated so much it is more likely to be "point eleven"02:59
jribffDDu: yeah, I don't how to write a regex like that, usually you just tell the program to get the opposite, like grep -v would03:00
silent_screamWarbo, is there any topic to read in ubuntuforums for kernels?03:00
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Warbosilent_scream: I'm sorry I don't go on the forums much. The main website for Linux is kernel.org03:00
jUggERNAUt1980i'm having some strange trouble with my local networking on my box03:00
silent_screamoh thnx Warbo03:01
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jUggERNAUt1980when i enable both my wlan and eth interfaces at the same time, i can't get internet access through my wifi.03:02
jUggERNAUt1980any thoughts?03:02
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wols_jUggERNAUt1980: defaultroute snafu03:02
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parthajUggERNAUt1980, have you checked if the default route/gateway is set03:02
WarbojUggERNAUt1980: Are you sure you have one of them set as the default gateway? (I would assume that ethernet takes precedence since it is faster)03:02
jUggERNAUt1980wols_, how would i go about fixin that then?03:03
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jUggERNAUt1980my internet connection is via wifi, and i have my default gateway set to ath0, my wifi.03:03
WarbojUggERNAUt1980: Are you using the regular System>Admin>Networking tool?03:03
parthajUggERNAUt1980, network settings->default gatewy03:03
sheepy1988hi folks, i'm having a problem with grub, anyone able to help?03:03
Warbooh, OK forget me03:03
parthasheepy1988, just shoot03:03
sheepy1988huh?03:03
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Warboask :)03:03
parthasomebody might be of help03:03
wols_jUggERNAUt1980: editing /etc/network/interfaces. but first make sure it is actually the problem03:03
sheepy1988ah right lol03:03
jUggERNAUt1980i'm using both.  what i want to do is connect my friend's system to the internet through mine via connection sharing.03:03
parthayeah yeah ask03:03
sheepy1988i r mong03:03
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partha:)03:04
jUggERNAUt1980i "acquire" my access through my neighbor's router.03:04
WarbojUggERNAUt1980: you might need to set up a bridge03:04
wols_that's different: ubuntu-ics or ipmasq03:04
WarboFirestarter can do it I think03:04
sheepy1988ok, so i've got ubuntu dapper set to boot using grub, but my family wants xp to boot because they dont like ubuntu. how do i go about changing the boot settings?03:04
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jUggERNAUt1980warbo, how do i go about that?03:04
jUggERNAUt1980i'm a bit of a newbit.03:04
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partha/boot/grub/menu.1st03:04
wols_jUggERNAUt1980: that's different: ubuntu-ics or ipmasq03:04
chicken_Firehello! How can I list the dependencies of a deb?03:04
WarbojUggERNAUt1980: Install the firestarter package, and it has a wizard to let you share connections03:04
sheepy1988problem is, when i try to access that and change it in a text editor it wont let me03:05
m1sh-Lis fglrx the only ati driver for ubuntu or is there an other one?03:05
sheepy1988it says i'm not the owner03:05
parthasheepy1988, edit that file03:05
wols_sheepy1988: sudo naon /boot/grub/menu.lst03:05
parthause sudo03:05
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wols_sudo nano03:05
partha*nano03:05
jUggERNAUt1980firestarter said it can do it, but when i try to start the firewall, firestarter tells me that one of my devices isn't active03:05
jazzrockeruse emacs os!03:05
Warbo"gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"03:05
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osshi there03:05
parthahi03:05
jUggERNAUt1980but when i check administrator-->networking, it shows both as active.03:05
osscan you help me?03:05
parthaabout what??03:06
WarbojUggERNAUt1980: Well I have never used firestarter for that myself, I just know it has the option, so I can't help you any further sorry :(03:06
parthawiht whaht03:06
osshow can I start in console with ubuntu?03:06
Noxvillefirestarter is shit ...03:06
ossat boot03:06
wols_!info ubuntu-ics03:06
ubotuPackage ubuntu-ics does not exist in any distro I know03:06
Noxville!shit03:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about shit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:06
wols_!info ipmasq03:06
ubotuipmasq: securely initializes IP Masquerade forwarding/firewalling. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.0.8-0.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 75 kB, installed size 612 kB03:06
sheepy1988what do i need to edit?03:06
parthathere is an optiopn called default03:06
parthasearch for default03:06
wols_jUggERNAUt1980: use ipmasq03:06
Warbosheepy1988: press alt-f2 and run "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"03:06
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Warbooops, I am lagging behind03:07
Khamaelcan I install software on a PalmOS device through qemu?03:07
jribchicken_Fire: dpkg -I will give you that info for a .deb.  apt-cache depends package, works if it is in the repositories03:07
parthaset saved as the option for default03:07
parthago to the end of the file03:07
wols_kamui: there are ways with linux native programs03:07
parthaand for your windows xp entry just say savedefault03:07
sheepy1988ok, and how do i save the file?03:08
parthatype in savedefault that is is03:08
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parthaif you are using gedit click save03:08
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parthaor ctrl-s should do03:08
chicken_Firethx jrib03:08
sheepy1988i'm using nano03:09
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jribsheepy1988: ctrl-o saves, ctrl-x exits03:09
parthasay ctrl-x03:09
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jUggERNAUt1980by all acounts, everything i've done here works, but my eth0 and ath1 won't work when activated at the same time.03:09
parthaand save03:09
kamuiwols_: what did I ask?03:09
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sheepy1988ok03:10
WarbojUggERNAUt1980: Hang on, I will try and find the bridging wiki page...03:10
sheepy1988i think i've done it, i'm going to reboot03:10
sheepy1988thanks guys03:10
jUggERNAUt1980warbo, awesome!  thank you!03:10
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wols_jUggERNAUt1980: which one is the defaultroute under "/sbin/route" when both are active?03:11
rockzmanCan someone help me with Iptables?03:11
wols_rockzman: more specifics03:11
rockzmanSure03:11
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wols_jUggERNAUt1980: cause if none of them works and won't let you go on the internet, then it's probably a route problem and bridging won't help a bit03:12
rockzmanwols_ i have this http://pastebin.com/794701 firewall and my clients are not surfing03:12
rockzmancan you check03:12
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PunjabiFLOYDIANi cant write to my fat32 partition. can anyone help?03:13
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wols_jUggERNAUt1980: and to get your friend on the internet too via eth1 while you are connected to ath0 to the internet, you will need ipmasquerading or bridging03:13
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plbAnyone know whats going on with the whole firefox name change thing?03:13
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wols_rockzman: install ipmasq03:13
Jack_SparrowPunjabiFLOYDIAN: yes I can write to my fat3203:13
fbeniteshi03:13
WarboOK the address for this is weird so it may not work for you, but what the hell https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecentChanges/BridgingNetworkInterfaces?highlight=%28bridg%2903:13
fbeniteshi! i installed blender in ubuntu, and somehow it doesnt show really good03:13
jUggERNAUt1980wols_, i tried iqmasq and dnsmasq, but that didn't work yet, either.03:13
fbenitesi cant select anything... i can just quit with the short cuts03:13
rockzmanwols_ and ipmasq is?03:13
PunjabiFLOYDIANi used the diskmount utility. but still. cant write to fat3203:13
Warbofbenites: Have you used it before? The interface is weird03:14
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parthaPunjabiFLOYDIAN, u probablu need to sudo03:14
wols_jUggERNAUt1980: answer my question03:14
PunjabiFLOYDIANhow ?03:14
partharather you *need* to sudo03:14
PunjabiFLOYDIANhow to write using console? i dont know03:14
parthawhat exactly are you trying to do?03:14
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PunjabiFLOYDIANi downloaded a song in Linux. now i want to move it the songs collection.03:14
sheepy1988didnt work =(03:14
Jack_SparrowPunjabiFLOYDIAN: Please post your fstab to the !Pastebin.03:15
PunjabiFLOYDIANwhich is on a fat32 partition03:15
wols_rockzman: NAT03:15
PunjabiFLOYDIANok wait03:15
PunjabiFLOYDIAN!pastebin03:15
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:15
wols_!info ipmasq03:15
ubotuipmasq: securely initializes IP Masquerade forwarding/firewalling. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.0.8-0.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 75 kB, installed size 612 kB03:15
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parthasheepy1988, can you put your menu.1st file in pastebin03:15
WarboPunjabiFLOYDIAN: Check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands (I think it is)03:15
rockzmanwols_ u dont know just how to fix my iptables?03:15
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kippihey03:16
wols_rockzman: no. and I don't want to tbh03:16
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Warbolst = abbreiviation of "list", not first03:16
kippicould someone help me with a mysql starting problem?03:16
rockzmanwols_ ok "thanks"03:16
fbenitesWarbo: sure, it is pretty good, in my gentoo, or my notebook ubuntu03:16
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parthaooeps sorry - type wols_ thanks for pointing it out03:16
parthamenu.lst03:16
rockzmancan someone support me with an iptables script?03:16
wols_rockzman: the chance you getting help in here is about 1% or less with an iptables problem. ask #iptables03:16
PunjabiFLOYDIANpeople : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d2487803:17
PunjabiFLOYDIANplease help! unable to write to fat32 partition, moutned03:17
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WarboPunjabiFLOYDIAN: "cd /wherever/it/is/mounted && sudo cp /the/path/to/your/song.mp3 ."03:18
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Jack_SparrowWarbo: THis one works well also  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper03:18
PunjabiFLOYDIANwarbo: thanks buddy03:18
rambo3sudo cp wont work03:18
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PunjabiFLOYDIANoh03:18
Warbo?03:18
lupine_85...yes it will...03:18
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SyborfI.03:19
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plbHrm wonder if firefox name change will effect edgy release date03:19
SyborfIheya03:19
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WarboFirefox name change? Again?03:19
lupine_85doubt it03:19
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parthasheepy1988, can u put the contents of your /boot/grub/menu.lst in pastebin03:19
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plbWarbo: we are not allowed to use the name firefox03:19
plbdebian..ubuntu that is03:19
WarboDidn't they eventually settle on Firefox because it didn't infringe anyone else's copyrights?03:20
sheepy1988how do i do that? i'm new to ubuntu so you'll have to go slow with me =P03:20
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lupine_85it's the logo that's the problem03:20
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lupine_85TBH, FireFox isn't really free anymore03:20
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plbWarbo: only debian and ubuntu cannot use the name firefox anymore03:20
plbbecause of their crap logo03:20
WarboAll the more reason to use Epiphany :)03:20
lupine_85but since Ubuntu doesn't follow the DFSG, they can use the logo...03:20
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fbenitescan somebody help me with the blender issue?03:21
sheepy1988right now i'm in sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst03:21
WarboOh, it is a Debian decision? I respect that. If it was Mozilla being petty then I would be a little miffed03:21
plblupine_85: it doesn't? last I checked Ubuntu didn't allow nonfree stuff into their official repos03:21
jribI think the logo can't be used if it isn't an official release from mozilla?03:21
sheepy1988and i dont know what i have to edit03:21
PunjabiFLOYDIANhey worked! Thanks.03:21
PunjabiFLOYDIANisnt there any way to do it using GUI03:21
parthasheepy1988, what changes did you make last time03:21
lupine_85plb: true-ish03:21
lupine_85it's a tiny png, for crying out loud ;)03:21
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plblupine_85: now that mozilla is crying about it though...it is nonfree03:22
sheepy1988# groot=(hd0,1) to # groot=(hd0,0)03:22
wedgeVyou can't use the name firefox without using the official mozilla firefox logo03:22
WarboPunjabiFLOYDIAN: I would add the option "uid=yourusername" to the mount option of the drive (I know how to do that for manually mounting, and fstab, but nothing else)03:22
lupine_85ubuntu don't follow the DFSG as strictly as debian, so they could probably use the logo03:22
plblupine_85: they wont03:22
PunjabiFLOYDIANwarbo: thanks.03:22
sheepy19880,1 is ubuntu and 0,0 is windows xp03:22
plblupine_85: mark won't allow non-free stuff into the repo03:22
PunjabiFLOYDIANgoodbye03:22
parthanope03:22
lupine_85meh03:22
parthathats not the one u need to do03:22
parthayou need to change the option called 'default'03:23
sheepy1988dammit03:23
parthacould you please revert those changes you did last03:23
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plbwonder why mozilla is being a bunch of wankers now03:23
wedgeVthey are not03:23
Admiral_Chicagoplease use #ubuntu-offtopic people03:23
WarboIt seems like Debian and Ubuntu are being very strict in their Freedom, which I respect03:24
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WarboOK, OK, offtopic03:24
sheepy1988is it "default num" i need to change?03:24
parthayup sheepy198803:24
parthathats right03:24
loudmouthmanokay ... probably a question for which i can expect to get FLAC .. but how/where can I get sound juicer to allow me to extract to MP3 directly ?03:24
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WhiteDethAnyone got suggestions for a download manager like FlashGet?03:24
sheepy1988ok, what do i change?03:24
jUggERNAUt1980wols_, i opened /sbin/route but it was full of characters that i couldn't make heads or tails of.03:24
wols_jUggERNAUt1980: run it, not opening it...03:25
frogzooloudmouthman: you select mp3 as the format & rip03:25
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parthawhat you could do is set the default to saved03:25
parthai.e 'default saved'03:25
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loudmouthmanhmm its not in the list of choices to export/extract03:25
parthawhatever is within the quotes03:25
loudmouthmanive just located the ubtuntu forums thingy !03:25
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jUggERNAUt1980wols_, hold on.03:25
parthaand then scroll down to the windows xp list entry you have03:25
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sheepy1988it says "default        0" but not in quotes03:26
POVaddctjUggERNAUt1980: i suspect you have actually _two_ default routes, which can lead to unexpected results03:26
WarboOK, I am getting confused reading this and listening to podcasts, so I'll be back later :)03:26
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lupine_85...03:26
wols_POVaddct: if you add a new default, the old one gets overwritten. you can never have more than two03:26
lupine_85ip route show03:27
lupine_85pastebin it03:27
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wols_POVaddct: never more than one that is03:27
jUggERNAUt1980POVaddct, how do i find that out?03:27
jUggERNAUt1980wols_, there is no such file.03:27
wols_jUggERNAUt1980: with /sbin/route03:27
lupine_85jUggERNAUt1980: ^ that %03:27
sheepy1988so where it says "default         0" i changed it to saved?03:27
lupine_85route is obsolete :)03:27
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parthasheepy1988, thats right03:27
parthachange the 0 to saved03:27
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salah14g03:28
sheepy1988and then i save that?03:28
edomachadohi any speek spanish03:28
POVaddctwols_: i thought so in the past, but multiple instances of dhclient3 (on eth0 and eth1 for example) can really set _two_ default routes03:28
GillaGalWhen I click on the Update Manager icon in my system tray, it trys to run but then dies. Any idea why?  (Just started happening out of the blue)03:28
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Dink!sp03:28
ubotusp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-46ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 169 kB, installed size 592 kB03:28
fyrestrtr!es03:28
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:28
salah14iooooooooooooou03:28
wols_!es03:28
salah14iiiiiiiiii03:28
POVaddctjUggERNAUt1980: run: route -n03:28
edomachadowhat can i do03:28
fbenitessupport for matrox g550 is very poor! glxheads has graphic problems...03:28
wols_!es > edomachado03:29
sheepy1988ok i've saved it03:29
edomachadoi dont speak english so good03:29
parthasheepy1988, good03:29
parthayou need to go further down your file03:29
sheepy1988ok03:29
parthaand find the windows xp entry for grub03:29
juanma_edomachado, que te dicen que vayas a #ubuntu-es03:29
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sheepy1988where it gives you the chain loader, makeactive etc?03:30
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parthayeah03:30
edomachadothank you i have dont read bye03:30
parthathats right03:30
brittIs there a kernel for the crusoe processor?03:30
GillaGalWhen I click on the Update Manager icon in my system tray, it trys to run but then dies. Any idea why?  (Just started happening out of the blue)03:30
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sheepy1988ok i'm there03:31
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parthaso at the end of the section add the line savedefault03:31
sheepy1988savedefault is already there03:31
jUggERNAUt1980here's the pastebin!!!  http://pastebin.ca/18290803:31
parthaand remove the savedefult lines for other entries03:31
Khamaelcan`t I use a usb PalmOS with qemu?03:31
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wols_jUggERNAUt1980: what about your eth interface? is it up while taking this paste?03:32
zappewols_, yes.. cyrus.conf is in /etc ?03:32
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jUggERNAUt1980wols_, no, i won't be able to xchat with it up.03:32
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wols_jUggERNAUt1980: this paste is useless03:32
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sheepy1988ok done03:33
jUggERNAUt1980argh1!!!!  i'll enable, run those commands, then i'll be back.03:33
wols_zappe: then the grep will produce a result line, since there are several "lmtp" in cyrus.cfong03:33
wols_grep -r -i lmtp /etc/*03:33
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parthasheepy1988, save and exit03:33
parthaand reboot03:33
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sheepy1988ok, i'll be back soon03:33
sheepy1988thanks mate03:33
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parthaactually i have a strange problem something on those lines jUggERNAUt198003:33
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grendelson(Question re: migration) I have a debian testing system and use LVM - I want to move to Ubuntu and want to know if I can just install over the top of my susyte,/  home, var, tmp, opt, usr  are all on lvolumes.  / is not and I probably need to make it larger than the 220MB it is now...03:34
POVaddctwols_: i still suspend he is using dhcp for both interfaces. which is a bad idea for a router.03:34
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POVaddcts/suspend/suspect03:34
parthai have a dsl modem03:34
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zappewols_, trying.. guess it takes some time03:34
grendelsonI would prefer to keep home and opt intact (as well as var since i now have some web stuff there...03:34
parthaand then i have my wireless router which connets to the dsl modem03:34
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wols_POVaddct: he is no real router. yet. also he mooches of his neighbour's wireless. or so he says03:35
parthadsl modem->wireless router03:35
grendelsonBetter yet is ther a DEbian to Ubuntu migration guide /03:35
POVaddctwols_: what is "mooch"?03:35
wols_POVaddct: "steal" in this case03:35
grendelsonmooch == use without asking :-)03:35
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elddikHi. I'm using putty to ssh to a (6.06) LAMP server w/ zenoss, however the session suddenly dies and i can no longer establish any network connections for 5-10 minutes.03:35
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parthanow i have this strange problem that i cant set the gateway on my machine to the dsl modem03:36
POVaddctwols_: okay. but i understand he wants to route his neighbor through his machine to the internet?03:36
parthait always takes the ip of the router as the gateway03:36
parthaand that sux03:36
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elddikCan anyone advise or point me to proper docs? (sorry to jump in w/ a nasty newbie=ish question)03:36
wols_partha: cause that gateway would be very wrong. your router is your gateway. and the dslmodem must work in bridge or passthru mode03:36
Jack_Sparrowplb: MAy I pm you about the firefox logo thing?03:36
wols_elddik: proper docs for what?03:36
elddikalso, i set TCPKeepAlive to yes in the sshd_config and set putty to process keepalives03:36
wols_ah. that one03:37
parthawols_, ah!03:37
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lupine_85POVaddct: for that he'd need a static route, surely?03:37
plbJack_Sparrow: we are talking about in it in #ubuntu-offtopic03:37
plbgo there03:37
Jack_Sparrowk03:37
ulfarelddik: thats weird03:37
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GillaGalWhen I click on the Update Manager icon in my system tray, it trys to run but then dies. Any idea why?  (Just started happening out of the blue)03:37
sheepy1988didnt work partha03:38
elddiki notice sshd_config as configured by ubuntu sets KeepAlive (but the man says TCPKeepAlive)03:38
POVaddctlupine_85: one of his interfaces should have a fixed ip address for that03:38
vega-i upgraded from dapper -> edgy and now even ls command doesn't work:03:38
vega-error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory03:38
vega-any ideas?03:38
vega-works in safe mode though03:38
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elddikulfar: more's the worry, cos i'm not at the office and i don't have acess to the bloody box to poke around in person03:38
POVaddctlupine_85: otherwise the other computer using his machine as a router always has to guess his ip address03:39
elddikulfar: ... though I'm 5 days old ubuntu lover03:39
TheGateKeepervega-: you might have more luck with the edge folks in ubuntu+103:39
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chicken_Firehow can I avoid the removal of egroupware when I update from php4 to php5 (the egroupware-core .deb depends on libapache2-mod-php4, but the egroupware team reports php5 beeing ok...)03:41
ulfarelddik: is it only the connection to your box that loses network once in a while ?03:41
zappewols_, this is the lines i get in cyrus.conf ... http://pastebin.ca/18291803:41
chicken_Fireapt-get install --donotremovestuff libapache2-mod-php5 or so?03:42
wols_zappe: I didn't ask for cyrus conf. I asked for all your /etc03:42
lupine_85POVaddct: you can do static routes for IP ranges as well03:42
wols_since you apparently don't know if you have inetd.conf or xinetd.conf or whatever03:42
sheepy1988Partha, it didnt work03:43
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zappewols_, well. this then. http://pastebin.ca/18292003:43
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POVaddctlupine_85: but a route with a gateway needs exactly one gw ip adresse, and that has to be known03:43
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wols_zappe: best ask the cyrus mailinglist then or search google. no clue what it could be then03:44
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zappewols_, okey :/ thanks anyway03:44
wols_the only problem I had with lmtp was the postfix chroot03:44
britt_how well does mythtv work?03:44
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l-fyhello03:45
britt_and do you all think a Athlon x2 4200+ is enough for mythtv03:45
l-fywhere is plpgsql in ubuntu located? in which packet?03:45
vega-TheGateKeeper: ok thanks03:45
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wols_britt_: it's overkill03:45
britt_;)03:45
TheGateKeepervega-: just hope they can help you03:45
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lupine_85POVaddct: of course. gateways should always be static03:46
britt_wols_: i think i might have to dual boot linux and windows, so I can play some games.03:46
wols_britt_: a hauppauge PVR or similar or best tho03:46
britt_I would guess then that a P4 1.6Ghz doesnt have enough to run it03:46
vega-TheGateKeeper: we'll see, not that important anyway it's a test machine but just curious :)03:46
grendelsonSorry was AFK - I was asking if LVM volumed in debian could jsut be used in place installing Ubuntu over the top of a debian tesrting install?03:46
britt_wols_: i was planning on using the PVR-25003:46
wols_britt_: you'd guess wrong. a P3 1GHz could run it03:47
britt_wow03:47
wols_and if you use a PVR250, the CPU doesn't matter at all03:47
britt_i plan on using two of them03:47
wols_a PVR encrypts on its own03:47
britt_one for recording and one for viewing03:47
wols_erm, compresses03:47
britt_wols_: thats what i thought, hardware MPEG2 encoder03:47
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wols_people with PVRs often use a Via C303:47
wols_quieter, less power03:48
britt_nice and quiet eh?03:48
POVaddctlupine_85: that's what i am talking about. and i guess Juggernaut1980 wants to use a machine as gateway that gets ip addresses for both interfaces via dhcp, which is no good idea.03:48
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lupine_85indeed03:48
britt_intresting03:48
lupine_85unless the leases are unlimited time, of course03:48
TheGateKeepervega-: hope they sort it out when it comes time for the rest of us to do it for real03:48
quietbritt_, sure is. ;)03:48
POVaddctlupine_85: yeah03:48
britt_I have a p4 1.6 just doing nothing, maybe I will put that to use. ANything I should know? Does it just simply install as a module in apt-get03:49
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zaggynl!windows03:49
ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm03:49
zaggynlhahaha03:49
zaggynl'nearest mental health institute'03:49
wols_britt_: it's not. you will need ivtv for your pvr which is a kernel module03:50
vega-TheGateKeeper: yea, although it can be my mistake also :)03:50
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Alan-DI have questions concerning a Ubuntu server in a Windows 2003 environment.  Is somebody available to answer some questions?03:50
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TheGateKeepervega-: :-)03:51
britt_wols_: seems like the most expensive part now is the PVR0250s03:51
wols_no. with a C3 the most expensive part is usually the case03:51
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wols_or the C3+mobo: they're not cheap either03:51
chicken_Fire - Ubuntu dapper problem: I need php5 for php things, using the new xml parser of php5. I need to keep egroupware running, however, the egroupware deb depends on php4 only.03:51
britt_newegg has those?03:51
chicken_Fire can I force egroupware and php5? (apt-get --forceblabla xxx)03:51
no-usebecause of some changes on the xgl repositories i can't install compiz-plugins using apt. But does someone knows where i can get the .deb file i need?03:52
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pmpfehi there03:52
pmpfeis there a way to monitor installed packages on multiple machines?03:53
britt_!hi03:53
ubotuHi! Welcome to $chan!03:53
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grendelsonIs there a specific channel to ask more technical installation or migration from other Linux questions?03:53
pmpfelike a sinaptic that controls several computers03:53
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gonzalohola03:53
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jhasseIs there a possibility to give a game a higher network priority, so that i can download and play at the same time?03:53
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wols_jhasse: wondershaper. or www.lartc.org for more advanced things03:53
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gonzaloSUCK MY PENIS03:54
chillmod2how to  install grafic drivers?i got ubuntut and the screensaver is slow and some more things slow...i got a ati rage mobility agp 2X.. and i downloaded the drivers from dell's site.. the drivers are from 2001 and its a rmps. file03:54
gonzaloSON OF A BITCH03:54
lupine_85slurp03:54
lupine_85mmmmm chipolata03:54
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gonzalommmm tu hermana03:54
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gonzalommmmm your sister03:54
Juhaz!ops03:54
ubotuHelp! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!03:54
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jhassewols_, thx03:55
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Hobbseegone03:55
britt_yea!!03:55
TuxthePenguin84haha03:55
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lupine_85Hobbsee++03:55
Alan-DI have setup a share via samba in a windows 2003 environment, but I cannot authicate the users on the windows server to be able to access the share with write priv.  Anybody any ideas?03:55
POVaddctr.i.p. gonzalo :)03:55
lupine_85Alan-D: the wiki03:55
britt_I saw the mode and some wierd stuff happen and I knew what was happening next :D03:55
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Alan-DWhich wiki?03:56
Hobbseebugger.03:56
britt_Alan-D: are your users properly conifgured03:56
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lupine_85http://help.ubuntu.com/ it's  a common issue03:56
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Alan-DOn the windows server ,yes.03:56
POVaddct(actually r.i.p. means: rest in pieces  *g*)03:56
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wols_Alan-D: he means on the samba one03:56
Hobbseehmm...03:56
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britt_Alan-D: yeah03:56
Alan-DDo I need to configer users on the ubuntu server?03:56
britt_Alan-D: I alwasy have used SWAT. It works pretty well and provides a web frontend to samba03:57
wols_Alan-D: yes03:57
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wols_Alan-D: and set passwords too probably smbpassef03:57
wols_smbpasswd03:57
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l-fyok03:57
britt_Alan-D: specific users have to be told they have read/write access to that share, otherwise nobody has any access03:57
quietswat is not real safe... but if security isn't a concern.. go ahead.03:57
l-fyubuntu suxx03:57
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djvdorpl-fy: WTF why?03:58
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lupine_85IRC worzzzzz!!!won!!03:58
Alan-DI was hoping to create a group and add the windows user to that group, in that possible?03:58
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Hobbseeit doesnt do what i wanted it to.  grumble.03:58
britt_quiet: intresting. I figured if I didnt allow remote access, I would be fine. I am using it on a remote server for a client03:58
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britt_quiet: that box is behind a firewall anyway03:59
quietbritt_, how do you get to it then?04:00
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britt_well I connect via ssh with xforwarding04:00
britt_open a firefox window04:00
cpwdjvdorp: I wouldn't take the intellectual opinion of anyone saying something "suxx" to sway you into what distro to use04:00
britt_and use the localhost access to swat04:01
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CanuckG'morning, does anyone know of a better file system than nautilus, one with photo previews and memory indication by file?04:01
britt_cpw: lol.04:01
cpwdjvdorp: his intelligent speech patterns seems to indicate someone that had no idea what they were doing and blames it on something else04:01
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Ben81how can i install a bittorrent server please ?04:01
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britt_Canuck: natulis is a file manager, not a file system04:01
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chtankis anyone here?04:02
fyrestrtrBen81: there is no such thing a bittorrent server, all you need is a tracker.04:02
POVaddctbritt_: you could also use ssh with port forwarding (not X forwarding) and run firefox locally (less bandwidth)04:02
britt_Canuck: i've always just learned to deal with Natulis04:02
michaelwhen i want to modify my printer cups is asking for a username and a password, but i have no idea which one it means04:02
michaelany hints ?04:02
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cpwanyways, time for work :X04:02
agwibowohello04:02
Ben81fyrestrtr, yes but is there a package for this ?04:02
britt_POVaddct: Im confused04:02
Emanuele11ben81: Do you want to became a bittorrent server or just download???04:02
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quietbritt_, you're probably okay. There have just been known security issues with SWAT and that other web front-end for system management stuff... mostly because it requires the server to be running with root privliges.. so when exploitable bugs are found, they can be rather serious.04:02
fyrestrtrBen81: the default bittorrent packet provides this, iirc. If you want an easy way, use azureus.04:03
Ben81Emanuele11, i want to be a tracker04:03
Canuckbritt: That's your preference, not mine04:03
Ben81fyrestrtr, consoel only :)04:03
Ben81fyrestrtr, console only :) (sorry)04:03
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POVaddctbritt_: you would say: ssh -L 9001:localhost:901 user@host   and then run firefox locally connecting to http://localhost:9001/04:03
fyrestrtrthere are bitorrent tools for the client too, just hit bt<tab> :)04:03
wols_Ben81: default bittorrent is console only04:04
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Ben81wolki, yes but i dont't think it will auto install some script in /etc/init.d04:04
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Intimate`would I be able to get mIRC for ubuntu?04:04
britt_quiet: well the 'client' is a friend of mine, and he's a complete idiot. If there was a problem come up, I'm sure that he would be the one to mess thigns up, not a security issue04:04
britt_Canuck: sorry man, I wasnt really finished.04:04
wickedpuppyIntimate`, use xchat ?04:04
chtankplease give me a PM channel if anyone wishes to help04:04
POVaddctIntimate`: mIRC is windows only. you could run it in wine, but why use mIRC anyway?04:05
agwibowo!04:05
britt_Canuck: i'm sure someone will pop in, but have you used synaptic to look at other file managers04:05
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quietmIRC is garbage.04:05
Volstrupare anyone able to help me correct my xterm with special localized characters? When I use one of them my terminal gets screwed up, and I have to start all over my typing.04:05
Intimate`hmmm04:05
quietirssi is where it's at.04:05
britt_quiet: agreed :)04:05
Intimate`POVaddct: mIRC is better :) lol04:05
agwibowohello04:05
dbzdeathhey i'm having speed issues when playing 720p x264 on mplayer and i'm on an athlon 64 3800+ x2 could anyone give me some advice for getting smooth playback?04:05
agwibowocan anyone see my message?04:05
quieton windows i usually use xchat.04:05
POVaddctIntimate`: i disagree04:05
Intimate`POVaddct: why so?04:05
Canuckbritt: yes and google without much of a difference I can see off hand eh04:05
britt_dbzdeath: what video card are you using04:05
wickedpuppyagwibowo, nope04:05
chicken_Fire can I force egroupware and php5? (apt-get --forceblabla xxx)04:05
chtankmIRC is the most popular of all IRC clients, but many are moving to xChat04:05
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chicken_Firein other words: how do I avoid the removal of a package when I upate from php4 to php5?04:05
POVaddctIntimate`: i use irssi and irssi only04:06
britt_Canuck: there's one i like that runs on xfce04:06
dbzdeathbritt_: geforce 6800 GS04:06
chicken_Firethe apt-get --no-remove will just break with a message like "need to be removed but remove is disabled.04:06
agwibowocoz i'm using ircii.. not sure how to use it yet..04:06
britt_Canuck: unfortunately, i'm not on that box04:06
britt_dbzdeath: latest linux drivers?04:06
wickedpuppyagwibowo, i repeat .. nobody can see what you are typing ..04:06
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dbzdeathbritt_: latest in the ubuntu universe repos04:06
wickedpuppylol04:06
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britt_dbzdeath: hmm...04:06
Canuckbritt: no worries will use the forums isntead04:06
britt_dbzdeath: what kernel?04:06
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dbzdeathbritt_: it seems to be in scenes with a lot of movement like where there was water flowing04:07
quietxmoto 0.2.1 is kind of wierd.04:07
quiet:\04:07
dbzdeathbritt_: um just a tick04:07
lupine_85xmoto++04:07
dbzdeathbritt_: 2.6.15-27-k704:07
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britt_dbzdeath: intresting. seems like your cpu would have enough gut to be fine. although that resolution is quite intense04:08
britt_:o04:08
britt_class!04:08
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britt_later people :)04:08
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dbzdeathbritt_: it should have enough even athlon xps can handle it AFAIK04:08
[eDu] hi04:08
Alan-DCan some explain to me how to give write access to a shared dossier?  Do I have to set the access on the dossier itself?04:09
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jay_Someone says there is bug when inputing chinese with emacs in gnome, is it?04:09
dbzdeathmmm well does anyone know anything that could possibly help me?04:09
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chtankI am looking for help, too, if any Ubuntu experts are here, please PM me04:10
youssefassad[1] quick ubuntu installer question in gparted, the fat32 drive has an icon with an exclamation mark on it, and I can't resize it. mount says it isn't mounted. Ideas?04:10
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chtankguess not, I now shall look elsewheere or suggest my client use a different desktop release04:11
chtankthanks for hte non-help04:11
finalbetajust ask the question04:11
finalbetadon't ask to pm04:11
lupine_85!volunteers04:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about volunteers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:11
finalbetaor ask to ask04:11
finalbeta!ask04:11
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:11
lupine_85!volunteer04:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about volunteer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:11
lupine_85!patience04:11
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines04:11
lupine_85my ubotu-fu is down today :(04:12
chtankfinalbeta I cannot follow in here, too many people04:12
finalbetai can't talk right now, got an ice cream in my hand04:12
finalbeta3 min04:12
finalbeta:p04:12
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youssefassad[1] I really dont think behavior like "either you support me the way i want or i throw a tantrum" should be rewarded04:13
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lupine_85could always buy a commercial support contract? ;)04:14
youssefassad[1] for example04:14
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jazzrockerjay_, use vim04:15
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jazzrockerjay_, emacs--, vim++04:15
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chtankhey, we provide web services for the handicapped, who are the forgotten of the world, all our servers are on Linux and we are trying to get the handicapped moved to LInux, too, now, you can e-mail me at chtank@tke-haaai.org if you are willing to volunteer some little help04:15
ruhello all, how install eclipse without gij in ubuntu6.06 ?04:16
t3nxti installed kubuntu but i didn't like it so i installed ubuntu using apt-get ubuntu-desktop... how can i erase all the kde stuff?04:16
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erUSUL!java04:16
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository04:16
wols_apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop04:16
t3nxtty04:17
michaelwhen i want to modify my printer cups is asking for a username and a password, but i have no idea which one it means04:17
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lupine_85cupsys:cupsys ?04:17
erUSULwols_: that will only remove the metapackage04:17
Alan-DHow can give a group write access to a dossier?04:17
rui alreay install java. but eclipse install want to install gij (openoffice not require it now)04:17
youssefassad[1] hm, maybe if I run gparted from the command line...04:17
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erUSULmichael: web interface?04:17
wols_erUSUL: then remove kdelbis404:17
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michaelerUSUL, yes i use the http://localhost webinterface04:18
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erUSULmichael: the cups web interface in ubuntu is non functional04:18
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michaelerUSUL, that means.... ?04:18
erUSULmichael: you have to enabel it. there is a page in the wiki. hang on a minute04:18
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michaelok04:18
robinHi does anyone know if there is a boxed Linux ready to go version of DOOM 3?04:18
cdaviscan rhythmbox manage songs on my ipod04:19
erUSULmichael: or use System>Admin>Printers04:19
robincdavis: Yes04:19
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wickedpuppyrobin, you mean can any linux distro play doom 3 out of the box ?04:19
erUSULmichael: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrintingCupsWebInterface04:19
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tengili have apache2 working with mysql and php and such and i just installed tomcat. anyone wanna tell me what i need to configure after tomcat is installed. its started but buy the looks of things i cant connect to it now04:20
robinwickedpuppy: No, if there is any DOOM 3 dist that has the linux patch as deafult04:20
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wickedpuppyi am lost ... perhaps others can help ya :P04:20
wols_robin: ask id games or activision. we don't know04:20
robinwols_: ok04:21
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michaelerUSUL, it works, thank you a lot04:24
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deep__#ubuntu-se04:26
deep__sry04:26
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Alan-DHow can assign write access to dossier for a group?  Anyone plase04:29
cdavisI can't seem to figure out how to put mp3 on my ipod via rhtymbox?04:30
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cdavisI can see all the songs on the ipod and even play them on my computer but I cannot seem to be able to add mp3s to the ipod04:30
Overand!ipod04:31
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto04:31
cdavisthanks04:31
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fyrestrtrdo you need something special on your motherboard to run SLI-enabled cards?04:32
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cdavisI think you need a sli compatible board, is that what you mean?04:33
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iratikThe time is wrong on our system04:35
iratikIT tried /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh restart04:35
diswill.04:35
fyrestrtryeah, but what is that exactly?04:35
iratikbut didn't work04:35
finalbetairatik, you have a dell laptop?04:36
iratikno, acer laptop04:36
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finalbetake, because a bug was posted ubuntu corrupted the HW clock on dells04:36
iratikI'm not sure whether to set it to UTC or CDT - but either way - there are date issues all over the place with time04:36
nek_espaol?04:36
iratikmysql time seems off04:36
lupine_85!es04:36
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:36
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iratikSo, there must be a command that resyncs the clock (initially I believe I chose UTC, so I would try to reset it to UTC)04:37
iratikstrangely, I can't find any documentation on actually reseting the clock04:37
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iratikonly documentation on not reseting the clock to UTC (which is exactly what I want to do)04:37
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TimothyPHi, does anybody know if it's possible to use a Storageworks Ultrium 448 on ubuntu ?04:38
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iratikSo --   I know there has gotta be someone who knows how to do this - reset the clock to UTC?04:38
wols_iratik: /etc/default/rcS04:38
iratikcommand not found04:39
iratiki'm on dapper04:39
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wols_iratik: it's a file. edit it04:39
iratikquoi04:39
wols_pardon?04:39
Jack_Sparrowiratik: How about right click on clock and go to preferences?04:39
txoof_what is the metapackage that will install gnome and all that goes with it?04:40
iratikI'm on a server, not a gui04:40
ITS_FOR_REALneed a archive/compression program that can make split size files in rar or zip. preferable easy install and gui.04:40
wols_txoof_: ubuntu-desktop04:40
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iratikAnd wols_ I hope those aren't the same instructions for "How to disable system time/date from being reset to UTC" because thats the exact opposite of what I need to do04:41
CBGHuzzar!04:41
iratikI need to reset the system time/date to be reset to UTC04:41
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iratikThis can't be that default- there must be something like /etc/init.d/clock resync04:42
iratikdefault=difficult04:43
wols_iratik: you can't simply negate a very easy howto?04:43
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txoof_wols_: thanks.  that's what I was looking for.04:43
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iratikthe howto says 3 things 1. backup rcS, 2. set UTC=yes, 3. /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh restart04:44
wols_and it clearly follows that if you set UTC=no, then your BIOS is not set to UTC, duh!04:44
iratikUmm, either way - after following all steps, time is still the saem04:44
wols_to what is your BIOS set?04:44
iratikdate returns04:44
iratikTue Sep 26 09:26:23 CDT 200604:44
iratikhow do I find out?04:45
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wols_also BIOS clock != system clock04:45
wols_you find out by looking in your BIOS for example. usually people know04:45
wols_hwlock however does in a pinch04:45
iratikI realize that - but unless I shut down the server - (websites go down), i won't be able to get to the bios04:45
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plusminuscan someone tell me how to remove/reinstall broken packages? tried to upgrade to efty and now gsfonts-x11 prevents from installing anything04:45
lupine_85dpkg -r gsfonts-x11 ?04:46
lupine_85you can then install it again if needed04:46
wols_plusminus: try apt-get -f install first04:46
plusminusdpkg -P gsfonts-x104:46
plusminustried all that04:46
wols_plusminus: paste the error04:46
plusminustheres a problem in the post--removal04:46
lupine_85then edit the postrm script?04:46
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lupine_85or --force-something04:46
wols_iratik: have you found it?04:47
iratikfound what?04:47
wols_what your BIOS is set to04:47
iratikI can't see my bios time - or our servers will go down04:47
wols_and yes, I told you how to look04:47
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wols_even when not inside bios04:47
iratikhwclock is a command?04:47
davidwinterhi all04:47
{Phoinix}yo04:47
davidwinteris there anywhere I can find out a schedule for when apache 2.2 will be available via apt?04:47
wols_iratik: no it's apple pie04:47
wols_davidwinter: WIR I guess04:48
davidwinterWIR?04:48
Jack_Sparrowman hwclock is also a command04:48
wols_when it's ready04:48
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wols_Jack_Sparrow: that would be too advanced for a server admin04:48
davidwinterah04:48
Jack_Sparrow:)04:48
lupine_85;)04:48
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wols_iratik: sudo hwclock --show04:49
plusminusoops srry wols_  for spamming04:49
plusminusi use pastebin04:49
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diswillwould someone be willing to advise me on hardware upgrade? (video)04:49
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plusminushttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2488404:49
wols_diswill: never ask to ask04:49
Jack_Sparrowdiswill: the best nvidia card your wllat will allow04:49
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Jack_Sparrowwallet04:49
FirstStrikediswill: Nvidia is the best bet for linux due to the better drivers over ATI.04:50
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{Phoinix}nvidia rulez04:50
wols_nvidia totally and utterly sucks04:50
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unfknblvblwhats a good gnome web browser to use that doesn't involve firefox ?04:50
diswillthanks I have a 3dfx voodo 3 3000 should I do anything to x before I replace the hardward I am using Kubuntu04:50
lupine_85not as much as ati ;)04:50
ITS_FOR_REALwols_,  not in linux.04:50
Jack_Sparrowwols_: Says the guy that just spent way too much for his ATI04:50
FirstStrikeUm..first, make sure your motherboard will support it diswill.04:51
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wols_ITS_FOR_REAL: it does. cause there is NO way to use open drivers with 3D. none04:51
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unfknblvbl!browser04:51
ubotuBrowsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK), Opera (Qt), Konqueror (KDE/Qt), Links (terminal-based). HTTP servers: apache204:51
lupine_85diswill: modify your xorg.conf to use the nv or vesa driver04:51
CBGOk, can Kubuntu or Ubuntu be run in vmware?04:51
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wols_Jack_Sparrow: I never ever bought an ati card. my last 3 were all nvidia04:51
unfknblvbl>.<04:51
lupine_85yep04:51
wols_CBG: yes04:51
FirstStrikediswill: If it's an old PC you might not have a PCI or PCI-E slot.04:51
lupine_85AGP++04:51
plusminuswols_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24884 after having tried dpkg -P --force-all gsfonts-x11 etc.etc.04:51
diswillI do have a pci04:51
diswilland agp04:51
FirstStrikeNo PCI-E?04:51
ITS_FOR_REALprob not on a agp board.04:52
FirstStrikeIf you only have PCI and AGP then go for an AGP card.04:52
Jack_Sparrowdiswill:  go with the Nvidia AGP card04:52
lupine_85nah, go for a PCI-E card and a new mobo ;)04:52
wols_plusminus: as someone already said: your post removal script is fubar. you need to edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/gsfonts-x11.postrm04:52
FirstStrikeYou should be able to find a pretty decent price on a 7800 or 7900.04:52
wols_diswill: how much money do you want to spend?04:53
diswillok should I just drop the card in? will it auto configure?04:53
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wols_diswill: and what cpu do you currently have?04:53
Jack_Sparrowlupine_85: We are not all trust fund babies..04:53
FirstStrikeYou'll need to install the newest nvidia drivers.04:53
diswillamd xp 1700+ cpu04:53
plusminuswols_, good news i dont need to build the package myself04:53
FirstStrike!nvidia04:53
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:53
wols_diswill: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and change to vesa. then drop it in and reconfigure your X again to the new card04:53
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wols_diswill: and what budget do you want to allocate for the card?04:54
diswillthe sudo reconfigure is what I was looking for thanks04:54
Jack_Sparrowlupine_85: You know I was kidding... I hope04:54
lupine_85yep :)04:54
diswill500 to 900 dollars04:54
lupine_85phwoar04:54
Jack_Sparrowpci-e04:54
lupine_85*someone* is a trust fund baby ;)04:54
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diswillno just a old fart04:55
lupine_85mind you, I could blow that on just the graphics card04:55
Jack_SparrowUpdate the MB04:55
wols_diswill: that's about 400-800 dollars too much for your CPU. if you want to really spend that amount of money, get a new mobo and CPU as Jack_Sparrow said04:55
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lupine_85get quad opterons ;)04:55
Jack_SparrowOLd fart here as well04:55
lupine_85(ok, maybe not)04:55
wols_diswill: if you buy a very expensive videocard now, your CPU will be to slow to actually fully use it04:55
diswillmb and processor is later04:55
stofferdkHi there. I recently installed ubuntu on my second computer. Now, I connceted my miniHDD via USB to it, and ubuntu says I dont have write rights to it - why? (windows works)04:55
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FirstStrikediswill: Get a Geforce 7950 dual GPU 1 gb card >:P04:55
Jack_Sparrowstofferdk: What format is the drive?04:55
gileswhey gang04:56
Jack_Sparrowstofferdk: My guess.. ntfs04:56
plusminuswols_, thx -  postinstall was broken as well btw04:56
jhasseWhy hotkeys don't work while playing bzflag?04:56
wols_diswill: then save up and buy all at once. if you buy a new CPU and mobo you WILL want a PCI-E one, trust me there. also if you upgrade cpu+mobo you must also upgrade your RAM to DDR204:56
stofferdkThe mini HDD is not mine, so I dont know - and I think my comp is NTFS04:56
ITS_FOR_REALdiswill, to invest that kind of money into a agp card is waste of money. buy a cheaper card or its time for new mobo really with pci-e04:56
wols_stofferdk: if it's ntfs, ubuntu cannot write to it, period04:56
SportChickHi everyone. I am running xubuntu on vmware.  Really am a total n00b.  It has been recommended that I install kde.  Can that be installed with xubuntu?04:56
stofferdkSo, I am just stuck?04:56
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lupine_85!ntfs3g04:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:57
lupine_85bah04:57
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wols_SportChick: install kubuntu-desktop. however kde needs more ram than your xubuntu04:57
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lupine_85there is a way to write to it, but there's a fair chance of killing your fs04:57
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Jack_Sparrow!ntfs-3g04:57
ubotuntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=171004:57
lupine_85smarter would be VMWare+XP04:57
shadukanhello guys...tried the howto install ATI drivers but didn't had any succes04:57
SportChickwols_: I have a total of 2gb ram on my laptop. Do you think that's enough?04:57
Jack_Sparrowlupine_85: I am starting to change my mind on 3g...04:57
plusminus!ntfs04:57
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse04:57
diswillyes it is time to change the mb I agree I just am afraid to trash system.04:57
wols_SportChick: 512MB for the vmware session is fine04:57
gileswoh lupine_85 are you the guy that created the beryl repo?04:58
shadukanto mount automatically partitions simply edit /etc/fstab04:58
lupine_85gilesw: no :)04:58
gileswoh04:58
wols_diswill: no worries. Windows needs a reinstall, Ubuntu is far more forgiving with such things. so no problem there04:58
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gileswheh04:58
lupine_85I mirror the i386 one and upload the amd64 one04:58
lupine_85amaranth does the creative stuff04:58
SportChickwols_: ty. Is there anything I should know about installing kubuntu to use with vmware?04:58
`Evilcan someone help me please with x11-common ? i cannot upgrade it and it brokes all updates04:58
wols_diswill: can you wait til around january? if so, get a cheaper conroe cpu, a mobo and a DX10 videocard04:58
gileswi'm using the amd64 one04:58
Jack_Sparrowdiswill: In that case go with a cost effective nvidia card and hold back the big bucks for later04:58
gileswit's great04:58
SportChickand do I need to uninstall xubuntu after?04:58
lupine_85ah, that's me then :)04:58
wols_SportChick: not different than xubuntu04:58
gileswreally impressed with it04:58
lupine_85cool :)04:59
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wols_SportChick: no you don't. you can have both installed04:59
lupine_85teh honour!!!!04:59
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SportChickwols_: hehe, someone held my hand while I installed a "ready-to-run" xubuntu version04:59
wols_gilesw: wait til you want to display flash :)04:59
gileswfirst time xcellerated has just worked04:59
lupine_85...on amd64...?04:59
gileswya04:59
Jack_Sparrow`Evil: I must ask... Have you run scripts like Automatix, (NOT recommending that you do.) to install anything?04:59
lupine_85(@wols_)04:59
gileswfor me at least04:59
lupine_85glad it worked for you, anyway05:00
`Evilno Jack_Sparrow05:00
diswillthanks for the hints I will be doing a full upgrade of hardward somewhere around feb or so untill then I just wanted to play with the video.05:00
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gileswi was reading that there's a good open source flash player now05:00
gileswfor 64bit05:00
wols_lupine_85: well then he won't praise amd64 linux anymore... amd64 is nOT worth it currently unless you have >4GB RAM05:00
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gileswi don't agree05:00
egon_spenglergilesw: You mean GNASH?05:00
lupine_85in your opinion, maybe05:00
gileswya05:00
gileswis it any good egon_spengler ?05:01
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wols_diswill: then buy a cheap videocard if you really must. what do you need the new card for?05:01
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wols_lupine_85: so how is amd64 better?05:01
egon_spenglergilesw: Well, suffice it to say I have many gnash-error.log in my home directory05:01
gileswheh05:01
lupine_85it has 32 bits more ;)05:01
lupine_85I'm not getting into an argument about it. personal preference05:01
wols_lupine_85: that's not an argument that's just blabberling05:01
gileswi will be using some 64bit optimized apps05:01
wols_lupine_85: why is it better?05:01
lupine_85*sigh*05:01
gileswfor video and audio05:02
lupine_85plonk05:02
diswillvideo is very jerky with tux cart and I can't use flight sim. thought I would try video first since it was the oldest part in the system.05:02
wols_lupine_85: please give me an argument, nothing with ";)" at the end05:02
Blissexdiswill: unless you have a card whose driver support accelerated 3D, bad news.05:02
wols_gilesw at least did05:02
SportChickwols_: are you aware of any "ready to run" versions of kubuntu for vmware?05:02
gileswactually lupe my only annoyance with my system running beryl is a bit of banding when i run fullscreen xvid05:02
wols_SportChick: no05:02
SportChickoi05:03
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gileswit doesn't happen when i run the normal window manager05:03
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gileswit's strange really because i have a monster 7800 card and a x2 with 1gig ram05:03
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diswillI thought the 3dfx card was just old (guess I was wrong)05:03
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wols_diswill: what's the res you want to run it at?05:03
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wols_SportChick: just install kubuntu in your current vmware session05:03
diswill1600x1200 75 hz05:04
SportChickwols_: yes, that's what I don't know how to do :p05:04
wols_diswill: your cpu will never be able to do that05:04
wols_SportChick: run synaptic05:04
gileswi've been trying to get the hacked madwifi driver to compile for airsnort-ng05:04
wols_diswill: why that high?05:04
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diswillguess I will have to wait for the mb then.05:04
gileswso i can crack my neighbours wep05:04
gileswjust for fun05:04
ubunterhi. how to transform xubuntu into kubuntu?05:05
lupine_85heh05:05
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lupine_85wep--05:05
rodneykDoes anyone know if there is a postfix > 2.2.10 in dapper backports, or know the easiest way to install postfix-2.3.3 on dapper so i can implement smtp-auth with dovecot?05:05
lupine_85!info dapper edgy05:05
ubotuPackage dapper does not exist in edgy05:05
KenSentMeubunter: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:05
lupine_85bah05:05
gileswi get my broadband free with the house anyways05:05
lupine_85!info postfix edgy05:05
ubotupostfix: A high-performance mail transport agent. In component main, is optional. Version 2.3.3-1 (edgy), package size 1041 kB, installed size 2436 kB05:05
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lupine_85!info postfix dapper05:05
ubotupostfix: A high-performance mail transport agent. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.10-1ubuntu0.1 (dapper), package size 901 kB, installed size 2172 kB05:05
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rodneykcoool, first time here05:06
gileswi thought exim was the standard on .deb based05:06
CanopusHi everyone05:06
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lupine_85it's in edgy, if you want to risk it for a biscuit05:06
lupine_85exim++05:06
rodneykhmm, not really, how stable is edgy right now05:06
lupine_85but I don't know how to configure it ;)05:06
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lupine_85not very05:06
Canopusi want to create a desktop launcher of a shell script05:06
rodneykright05:06
lupine_85you could build from source05:06
wols_rodneyk: do your own simple backport of it05:06
rodneykyeah i figured i would have to05:06
elddikulfar: sorry was away. the connection to my box loses network once in a while. however ,others can access webservices on that machine, when i can't05:06
Canopusi have created one but it does not execute ... only way is to run it in a terminal05:07
gileswhey lupe is there much point in compiling your own kernel on ubuntu ?05:07
ubunterKenSentMe - thanks. over 200 mega to download :/05:07
lupine_85erm, depends05:07
Canopusany advice on how to create a working launcher/shortcut?05:07
wols_Canopus: what is the first line of the script?05:07
lupine_85if "just for fun", then probably not - although startup time++05:07
lupine_85but then, do you need a point if it's just for fun? ;)05:07
Canopus#!/bin/sh05:07
gileswas it is with that nvidia driver and madwifi i'm getting stuck on a kernel version anyways05:08
lupine_85Canopus: use the .desktop format05:08
stofferdkI looked up the NTFS write driver you linked to - but I recently installed linux, I have no idea whatsoever how to install it.05:08
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wols_Canopus: should be ok. then. try to start it with "/bin/sh script" in the shortcut then05:08
ITS_FOR_REALso again... wanna make rar with split size files. rar doesnt work. ark just stands workning on something in a 100 year no error mess or logfaults.  file roller cant split. gzip cant make split rar files... GRRR :(05:08
Jay_LevittAnyone here used fcgid with apache?05:08
JuhazCanopus, if it's +x and has the correct #! line, it should just work like any other app05:08
gileswi'm pretty novice on a .deb based distro05:08
Canopusit doesn't ... that's the problem05:08
wols_gilesw: you need to install kernel headers for your kernel then05:09
gileswkeep wanting to do a rpm -q or a yum search05:09
Canopuslupine_85: .desktop format ... that i am not familiar with05:09
lupine_85google for it05:09
gileswcan't i just go for vanilla off kernel.org?05:09
lupine_85or just look at an existing .desktop file to get the details05:09
gileswor will that break ubuntu?05:09
lupine_85gilesw: you can05:09
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lupine_85I did :)05:09
krazykitgilesw: you can, but i recommend using ck patches05:09
lupine_85not "the ubuntu way" though05:09
gileswlols05:09
lupine_85lulz0rz05:09
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wols_gilesw: if you know what you're doing it's possible05:10
krazykitgilesw, lupine_85: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ckolivas/kernel/05:10
gileswi've done it many time  on other distros05:10
lupine_85you could even use 2.6.18 :)05:10
gileswk i'll have a look05:10
lupine_85cutting edge++05:10
iturkhi there i have a problem with my wireless !! i have to connect to an access point that request for password and user so it means that its closed !! Which software should i download in order to be able to give this two parameters when connection to a closed access point ??05:10
ubunterI thought that xubuntu would be like utorrent on Windows - very small but also very functional. xubuntu was albo very small :D05:10
krazykitgilesw: just make sure to have the sources for wireless ;-)05:10
elddikhi, i'm losing network connection to my ubuntu server from the machine thats my ssh client. is this a known issue?05:10
wols_gilesw: you can also apt-get the ubuntu kernel source and work with that (using kernel-package)05:10
gileswrighty05:11
erUSULlupine_85: i use 2.6.18 ;) (all the rc's and now final)05:11
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erUSULiturk: does the ap use wpa or wep or other access method? try with network-manager05:11
gileswthe main thing i'm struggling with is sound05:11
gileswthe mixer that comes with ubuntu seems cack05:12
gileswi've been trying to find this envycontrol2405:12
lupine_85alsamixer ?05:12
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gileswbut it seems to have disappeared off the planet05:12
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txoof_the default user that I used during setup is receiving status emails; where is this configured?  I searched in /etc/ but couldn't find anything.05:13
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gileswvolume control for gnome it's called05:13
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iturkerUSUL: wpa05:13
gileswi've got an ice based card05:13
iturkit request for user and password05:13
gileswhas digital and analogue out05:13
wols_txoof_: waht MTA?05:13
gileswapt-get install alsamixer05:14
gileswno joy05:14
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lupine_85it's already in05:14
lupine_85console05:14
txoof_wols_: I have no idea.05:14
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gileswsays couldn't find package05:14
gileswi've enabled all the repos05:14
lupine_85it's in alsa-utils I think05:15
lupine_85you've already got it on your PC05:15
gileswahh05:15
gileswquality05:15
lupine_85:)05:15
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gileswi've got a feeling that these are the last days of windows on my desktop05:15
erUSULiturk: as i said try with network-manager05:16
erUSUL!wpa05:16
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:16
gileswi try desktop linux each year lol05:16
erUSUL!wpa > iturk05:16
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krazykitgilesw: hurrah.  i've been windows free on 2 machines for a year now05:16
hydrohello all ... I just got Dapper Drake installed and its been fun so far. However, I have Googled around to try and find out what to do in order to be able to play movies on commercial DVDs with a DVD drive attached to my laptop running Dapper Drake. Anyone with suggestions?05:16
gileswi was going to go mac05:16
lupine_85!dvd05:17
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages05:17
gileswbut alxgl just looks so good05:17
lupine_85hehe05:17
lupine_85beryl is pretty05:17
gileswfact is i'd be using open source apps on mac05:17
gileswso whats the point05:17
hydrothanks ubotu05:17
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gileswthe only thing i'll miss is photoshop and cubase05:18
wols_hydro: libdvdcss05:18
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gileswi'll probably keep a windows install just for creative stuff05:18
wols_doh. too lsow :)05:18
hydrothanks wols_05:18
hydrohey wols_ is Jack gone now?05:18
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kuzavashello05:19
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wols_long gone. trolls stop when they are ignored (or banned). which is why you should have ignored him05:19
b^jthis morning when i booted my laptop and tried to switch to a virtual console i just get another gdm session and i can't switch back to my old gdm session.  any ideas what is up with this?05:19
kuzavasi've booted the most recent daily eft dvd05:20
gileswis there a gui app for alsamixer?05:20
kuzavasand i've encountered a few problems already05:20
lupine_85gilesw: not really05:20
lupine_85it's just a mixer05:20
b^ji am running an up to date dapper install05:20
gileswhrm thats a bit crap05:20
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dbzdeathdoes anyone know how i can extract this? http://www.files.bz/files/9309/Mythtv/mplayer_coreavc.patch.20060413.bz2 i tried it with tar -xjvvf but it failed with "tar: This does not look like a tar archive"05:21
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lupine_85bunzip2 <file>05:21
hydrowols_ thanks for the lesson ... next time I will be more wary of tollers. Why, though, do people troll like that?05:21
kuzavasis here someone who is responsible for developing or smth05:21
b^jthe curses one is good enough for me05:21
gileswi like to swap between analog and digital05:21
lupine_85it's not a tar file05:21
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wols_gilesw: alsamixergui perhaps?05:21
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wols_kuzavas: wrong channel #ubuntu+105:21
Sprafaso05:21
supermigueldoes any one know what this mean "configure FTP user to be "jailed" (chrooted) into their home directory"05:21
gileswdoesn't tab05:21
b^jdbzdeath, try just a bunzip205:22
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Sprafai'm trying to set up ubuntu right05:22
Sprafacan anyone lend a hand on how to get internet running on it05:22
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Sprafamodems*05:22
wols_supermiguel: it means the ftp user can't access files outside their home directory. which is how it should be with ftp05:22
b^jsupermiguel, that tries to prevent ftp users from getting outside of their home05:22
gileswahh joy beans05:22
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dbzdeathb^j: ahh thanks05:22
Sprafai've ran scanModen05:22
gileswapt-get install alsamixergui :)05:22
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lupine_85!alsamixergui05:22
ubotualsamixergui: graphical soundcard mixer for ALSA soundcard driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.0rc2-1-9 (dapper), package size 29 kB, installed size 148 kB05:22
lupine_85cool05:23
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b^jso did anyone else lose their virtual consoles lately? i had them the other day, now they are gone05:23
carlphello... "the entered block size......do you want to correct?" comes up as an error in Nero when I try to burn ubuntu.   should I choose ignore or correct? what should the block size be?05:23
wols_Sprafa: what modem is it? a winmodem?05:23
b^jand gdm is in its place05:23
Sprafayes, winmodem05:23
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stravI know this is not quite the right chan, vmware people are actually sleeping. But could anyone provide help setting the sound device as sound blaster live in vmplayer, I'm currently running xp as a guest os and... would like to enable sound. Actually my sound dev in my .vmx file is: sound.virtualdev = "sb16", I don't either know if that should be sufficient or...05:23
Sprafai'm reaing a lot on it, but godamn it's quite hard05:23
FaithenHullo again!05:23
wols_Sprafa: unlikely it will work under linux. get a real modem05:23
gileswi still have a lot to learn about integrating my preferred apps into the desktop..05:23
SprafaD:05:23
Sprafawhat happened to linux for human beings D:05:24
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gileswlols05:24
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FaithenI have one quick question, how do i run with x server disabled?05:24
supermiguelthere is any way to get the original proftpd.conf?05:24
Sprafaso i should get a full hardware modem ?05:24
FaithenI need to install some drivers05:24
Sprafaaren't they rare as shit D:05:24
wols_Sprafa: yes. ideally a serially attached external modem05:24
wols_Sprafa: no they aren't05:24
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b^jSprafa, there is some support for winmodems, but a hardware one will be your best bet05:24
carlphello... "the entered block size......do you want to correct?" comes up as an error in Nero when I try to burn ubuntu.   should I choose ignore or correct? what should the block size be?  any ideas?05:24
LjLSprafa: which winmodem?05:25
wols_Faithen: /etc/init.d/?dm stop05:25
wols_carlp: is there a cue file?05:25
FaithenThank you, do I need to sudo that command?05:25
SprafaAlcatel Speedtouch USB ASDL05:25
ArrickHi guys and gals, how do I turn of the blasted screen saver in ubuntu breezy?05:25
carlpwols_: no05:25
wols_carlp: on data CDs usually it'S 204805:25
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wols_carlp: what is the extension fo the file you want to burn? and how do you burn it?05:25
LjLwols_: hey, someone who's actually telling people to use the "?dm start/stop" thing... i thought i'd never caught up =)05:25
carlpwols_:   .iso05:26
gileswsystem prefs screen05:26
FaithenI suppose i will be back05:26
carlpi burn it with nero.. "burn image to disk"05:26
Faitheneither with praise in precise directions, or pleas of further advice apon failure05:26
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supermiguelthere is any way to get the original proftd.conf05:26
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Sprafaso... best bet is get a bloody router or something like that05:27
Sprafameh05:27
carlpcan somebody send me the .cue ?05:27
LjLSprafa: http://www.linux.com/howtos/DSL-HOWTO/speedtouchusb.shtml05:27
Sprafaoh snap!05:27
Arrickthank you gilesw05:27
SprafaOMG05:27
Sprafalinux drivers!!05:27
wols_carlp: iso files usually don't have them. and they use 2048bytes/persoct which nero should be fine with05:27
gileswyay i helped someone and it's only my second day of bunty05:27
Sprafawow LjL !05:27
Sprafayou rock!05:27
Sprafa:D05:27
wols_carlp: mount it in daemon-tools and do a disck copy05:27
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carlpok05:27
wols_Sprafa: that's no winmodem you have05:28
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Sprafathat's not a winmodem ?05:28
SprafaD: ?05:28
Sprafathe ubuntu wiki lists anything over USB as winmodems05:28
wols_Sprafa: dialup modems are winmodems sometimes05:28
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wols_well, usb dsl modems are shitty, yes, but not really winmodems05:29
LjLSprafa: however, i can see the Speedtouch driver packaged in the repositories for Warty, Hoary and Breezy, but not Dapper05:29
carlpalso, when i put in the cd/mount it in daemon...   the splash screen comes up and then goes away, nothing happens, is that supposed to happen?05:29
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Sprafaas i said, i'm a noob setting up linux in preparation for possibly a new PC running full ubuntu05:29
wols_LjL: could be in the kernel by now05:29
Sprafahmhm05:29
Faithenwols_: Sorry, forgot to copy and paste the command line, quick repeat?05:29
SprafaDapper noes :(05:29
wols_Faithen: /etc/init.d/?dm stop05:29
wols_? depends on what kind of displaymanager you run05:29
wols_and you need to log out of X of course05:30
ubunterhow to install foobar2000 using wine?05:30
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krazykitwols_: actually, stopping gdm/kdm will log you out of x05:30
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LjLSprafa: here's some Ubuntu tutorial as well http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html05:30
Sprafayay!05:30
Faithenit didn't log me out of x server05:30
Sprafayou sexy men05:30
Faithenevidently05:30
Faithenwell lets log out05:30
krazykitubunter: wine foobarsetup.exe or whatever it's called.  though you should use a native player, like amarok05:30
gileswubuntustudio.com - rocking!05:30
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Sprafai was just looking for <modem> in the ubuntu support05:31
Sprafai didn't expect there to be drivers05:31
LjLSprafa: and here's the dapper tutorial from the ubuntu help site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/SpeedTouch05:31
Sprafai love you guys D:05:32
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Arcad3hi all05:32
ubunterhow to install foobar under wine: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=24&t=6349&hl=wine05:32
Faithenweeeelllll that did jack and shit, and jack left town apparantly.. lousy jack, always not around when hes needed05:32
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Sprafafoobar is almost why i wasn't going to switch to linux05:32
elTigreI get "bash: /usr/bin/tail: cannot execute binary file" a lot05:32
LjLwols_: looking from that tutorial, it seems almost like it's actually not included anymore... seeing the zip file, the convoluted instructions and all... though that's mostly for getting the firmware into the thing05:32
SprafaD:05:32
elTigrewhat can I do about that?05:32
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wols_LjL: ok if it needs that firmware it's not in the kernel :(05:33
ITS_FOR_REALgot rar to work. tried pointing @ dir first then file name. tried it reverse and voila... zz to tired. need t use -m0 also cuz its going so f** slow05:33
FaithenO.o05:33
Sprafayou know, command lines used to scare me05:33
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wols_Faithen: what type of ubuntu are you running?05:34
Faithenmost recent version05:34
Sprafanow i know they just suck :(05:34
krazykitSprafa: then you're not doing it right :-P05:34
Faithen6.06l i do believe05:34
lupine_85console++ :)05:34
Sprafameh05:34
ITS_FOR_REALcya guys! have fun05:34
Sprafacommand lines are prosumer stuff05:34
wols_Faithen: not version. type. as "kubuntu"05:34
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krazykitSprafa: if you've broken your system as much as i have, you learn to love the command line ;-)05:35
lupine_85Real (Wo)Men Use CLI05:35
FaithenI don't know, How would i find out? I just recently picked linux and ubuntu up05:35
Sprafai do fine with my beautiful GUIs, thank you very much D:05:35
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Faithenso i'm fairly new, just starting to get a hang of synaptic and terminal05:35
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b^janyone know why my virtual consoles are gone?  gdm is all i see when i press ctrl-alt-[1-7] 05:35
wols_Faithen: do you have a foot icon in X?05:36
wols_b^j: F1-F605:36
FaithenMy main Icon is this little three person circle05:36
b^jwols_, err yeah, f1-f8 that is05:36
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SkrotHi. Is there some clever way to unload all snd_ modules in ubuntu?05:36
Saftoolhello all05:36
SkrotOr unload all modules used for sound/alsa05:37
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krazykitSkrot: rmmod snd_* doesn't work?05:37
=== lupine_85 wouldn't think it would
lupine_85the * would be expanded by bash?05:37
krazykitoh, bash05:37
krazykitmaybe not then05:37
lupine_85rmmod snd_\* "might" work, but I wouldn't bet on it05:38
Skrotkrazykit: no. I seem to remember debian having /etc/init.d/alsa. If I stop'ed it it removed all snd_modules as well. Does ubuntu have anything like that? /etc/init.d/alsa-utils does not do it05:38
lupine_85most of them will be in use anyway05:38
krazykitlupine_85: it would in zsh ;-).05:38
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LjLSkrot, lupine_85, krazykit lsmod | grep "snd_" | awk ' { print "rmmod " $1 } ' | sh05:38
lupine_85hehe05:38
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FaithenI love having such baffling problems05:38
lupine_85showoff ;)05:38
LjLi know :)05:38
Saftoolwhen trying to install unbuntu server my system hangs after initial reboot.  only error i see while booting si "Can't read ctr While initializing i8042"   any ideas? i ahve reinstalled 3 times05:38
krazykitSkrot: and if that doesn't work, make it "rmmod -f"05:39
SkrotLjL: Get a lot of dependencies about it beeing in use.05:39
LjLSkrot: well, i didn't actually try it as root ;)05:39
Juhazmake that: lsmod|awk '/snd_/ {print $1}'|xargs rmmod05:39
LjLSkrot: just run it more than once untill all the deps are gone -- assuming they're only dependencies internal to the snd_* modules05:39
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LjLotherwise i guess you'd have to remove the offending modules manually first05:40
krazykitSkrot: and lsof anything that's using the /dev nodes for the devices, too05:40
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LjLJuhaz: now who's the showoff :P05:40
FaithenNoriega, why do i recognize that name.05:40
SkrotERROR: Removing 'snd_hda_intel': Operation not permitted -- as sudo05:40
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Faithenwould you happen to have scripted a B.net bot?05:40
Juhazhehe05:41
Jay_LevittIs there a way to see which apt-get package supplies a file named xyz.c?05:41
wols_Jay_Levitt: dpkg can tell05:41
LjLSkrot: for the whole command to work you'd probably want to *be* root (i.e. "sudo -i") rather than prefix sudo05:41
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wols_Jay_Levitt: dpkg -S05:41
erUSULJay_Levitt: dpkg -S /path/to/file05:41
Faithenljl, I think i broke Wols05:41
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Jay_LevittThanks all05:41
LjLJay_Levitt: yeah, install the "apt-file" package05:41
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LjLJay_Levitt: that will work even if you don't have the concerned package installed05:42
erUSULLjL: maybe the ubuntu kernel does not permit mod removal. it is compile option05:42
ephemerosyo \m/05:42
wols_Faithen: ?05:42
ubunterquestion: i installed foobar under wine. how to make that linux will open mp3s in foobar?05:42
Jay_LevittLjL:L Thanks, that's even better05:42
LjLerUSUL: well, that might be, but i'm not too eager to crash my system right now, so i'll leave it for someone else to try :)05:42
FaithenI just never got a responce to you when i Denied that i have a foot with an x for it as an icon05:43
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LjLJay_Levitt: run "apt-file update" first, so that it downloads the needed information, then you can do "apt-file search filename"05:43
Faithenand that i had a little circle with three breaks and three bumps on it05:43
xoxiola05:43
Faithenso, I think i broke you05:43
elTigreI get "bash: /usr/bin/tail: cannot execute binary file" a lot05:43
elTigrewhat can I do about that?05:43
wols_Faithen: I don't run the gui so I dunno. but you should know yourself what you installed. until you know, I can't tell you waht to do. the "?" is one of x,g or k05:43
Jay_LevittLjL: Which answers what would have been my next question!05:43
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wols_elTigre: a lot or always when you run tail?05:44
xoxiola05:44
elTigreI normally don't run tail05:44
FaithenIt's prolly X05:44
FaithenI'll try it again05:44
Faithenthank you.05:44
elTigrebut I guess it's used a lot in startup script05:44
elTigres05:44
krazykitFaithen: if there's an "applications" menu up top, it's gnome or xfce.  if it's on the bottom, it's kde05:44
silent_screamI installed lirc with succes! now hoaw can i control aplications with my remote? i use gnome...05:44
LjLelTigre: try running "tail" from the shell then05:44
elTigrewhen I run tail, it's the same, too05:44
wols_elTigre: is it possible to run it. yes or no?05:44
elTigreno05:44
LjLelTigre: ok, "ls -l /usr/bin/tail"05:44
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FaithenIt's Gnome then05:44
bieb_workHas anyone here looked at the NetCell Revo, storage Processing Unit?05:44
xoxiperdona pero no te entiendo05:44
LjL!es05:44
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:44
lefthi05:44
wols_elTigre: ldd /usr/bin/tail05:44
Faithenand it said it killed GDM05:45
elTigre-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 37092 2006-04-04 19:43 /usr/bin/tail05:45
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Faithenand nothing happened05:45
Faithenlet me try and repeat05:45
elTigrenot a dynamic executable05:45
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wols_Faithen: you closed x by logging out?05:45
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b^jgrr, tired to ctrl-alt-f1 and it brough me to a new gdm, i couldn't get back to my old one on ctrl-alt-f7.  anyone have any idea what is up?05:45
LjLelTigre: try "file /usr/bin/tail" too05:45
elTigrefile /usr/bin/tail : Data05:45
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wols_elTigre: ls -al /usr/bin/tail05:45
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LjLdata?05:45
wols_elTigre: and "file /usr/bin/tail" too05:45
LjLis it just me, or that doesn't sound good?05:45
elTigreyep05:45
FaithenYEah i logged out05:45
xoxibye05:46
elTigrefile says it's data05:46
wols_elTigre: someone or something overwrote at least your /usr/bin/tail file05:46
Faithenunless you wanted me to restart, or i wanted me to.05:46
Saftoolafter installing unbuntu server (latest relerase) my system hangs up at the login screen.  only error message is the "Can't read ctr While initializing i8042".  I was never abel to get past that.  any suggestions or ideas?05:46
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LjLelTigre: yeah, which makes me say it doesn't sound good05:46
elTigremhh what can I do about that?05:46
xoxino te busco05:46
LjLelTigre: perhaps install "chkrootkit" and/or "rkhunter", and run them05:46
wols_elTigre: and since normal programs cannot do that /unless you run sudo), something very fishy is going on05:46
mhbAnyone has experience with the Bon Echo https:// bug? Do you have a workaround? (to access launchpad, for instance)05:46
Arrickhey, how do I sent one of those messages like *| Arrick Slaps blah blah?05:46
xoxibye05:46
b^jelTigre, not good at all, is this a home or work computer?05:46
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LjLelTigre: and disconnect from the network as soon as possible after you install them05:46
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elTigreljl: is that installable through synaptic?05:47
elTigrehome computer05:47
leftanyone knows what is the app that modifies /etc/resolv.conf when I change network?05:47
krazykitArrick: /me does something05:47
LjLelTigre: yes, both are05:47
b^jelTigre, if its a home one i would just run a rootkit checker from trusted media05:47
wols_Faithen: are you in a console whne you type /etc/init.d/gdm stop?  if not: go there with ctrl+alt+f105:47
Arrickthanks05:47
Faithentrying to get cedega to work is becoming a pain o.o05:47
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LjLelTigre: just type "sudo apt-get install rkhunter chkrootkit" and they'll be installed. then run them05:47
wols_left: depends how you change it05:47
b^jelTigre, change all the passwords on any system you might have typed in on that system05:47
krazykitFaithen: cedega is junk.05:47
b^jelTigre, not good enough05:47
Faithenis there a difference between console and terminal?05:47
bieb_workFlannel.. you hanging around today?05:47
b^jelTigre, you need to run the rootkit checker from trusted media05:47
LjLFaithen: not for practical purposes05:48
silent_screamI installed lirc with success! now how can i control aplications with my remote? i use gnome...05:48
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Faithenyes i am starting to realise, have a better way to get games running on my computer? ^.^05:48
b^jelTigre, you can't trust anything on that install from now on05:48
b^jelTigre, boot from a readonly media like a live cd05:48
wols_Faithen: press ctrl+alt+f1. you must be in text mode, not in X while stopping gdm05:48
leftwols_, at home I have my ethernet cable and my provider's dns, then at school in the Wless network something changes resolv.conf05:48
LjLelTigre, b^j is probably right. get an Ubuntu Live CD, boot from it, install rkhunter and chkrootkit from there, and run them on your HD05:48
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wols_left: dhcp most probably05:48
wols_left: you need to edit your /etc/network/interfaces05:49
elTigreuhm, I'd rather assume first, that a rootkit would not be as dump to overwrite tail ....05:49
b^jLjL, not probably, if they have root, they could have installed kernel modules to hide anything they did05:49
leftto avoid that wols_?05:49
vect0r``wols_, deja vu05:49
vect0r``ou need to edit your /etc/network/interfaces05:49
vect0r``hehe05:49
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wols_vect0r``: it's normal with network problems05:49
Saftoolanyone know if "Can't read ctr While initializing i8042" would cause system crash?05:49
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wols_Saftool: do you have a usb keyboard or ps2?05:50
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Saftoolwols_: ps205:50
SaftoolUSB mouse05:50
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Saftoolwhich should i change? :)05:50
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LjLelTigre, b^j: a rootkit might not be (or it might), but the guy that installed it might. anyway, let's just boot from a live cd if you have one, and be back on irc. the sooner you disconnect, the better05:51
wols_Saftool: could be. try booting with acpi=off and noapic for boot parameters05:51
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elTigreI have that problem for a few weeks now05:51
elTigredidn't suspect anything05:51
wols_elTigre: you could also check your disk for defects (smartmontools. long test)05:51
Saftoolwols_:Is that something I can add in GRUB? sorry am completly new05:51
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wols_Saftool: yes05:51
Canopuslupine_85: Thanks for the advice ... did some work around and its working now05:51
elTigreI am running chkrootkit in my normal installation anyway first05:51
Saftoolwols_:Cool let me boot with that brb :)05:52
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OnbirHey. I have two questions :). One: How to reset the panel layout (i changed the panels and stuff.) and two: Is there a way to place a desktop shortcut to connect to this chat?05:52
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CanopusOnbir: right click on the irc client and select Add to panel05:53
lupine_85Canopus: np :)05:53
Canopusok guyz ... see ya later ... thanks a million :)05:53
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alexyeahhow to set the gdm display on 1024*768 and 4 all users as default05:53
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LjLelTigre: well, it's quite possible that you *don't* have a rootkit, but the "tail" executable being messed up does ring a warning bell or three to me, so myself i'd double check...05:54
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b^jso does anyone know what became of my virtual terminals, i had them yesterday.  since yesterday i reconfigured x to use xinerama and fglrx05:54
mike-digiport-.05:55
Onbiralright.. and now my first question please? ^_^05:55
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OnbirWhich was: How to reset the panel layout (i changed the panels and stuff.)05:55
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LjLOnbir: move them back ;)05:55
LjLOnbir: or create a new user05:55
Juhazgconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel05:55
OnbirLjL: Well.. i deleted some panels05:55
LjLOnbir: add them back... right click on the panel, and "add panel" (or similar... i'm on KDE)05:56
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OnbirJuhaz: Thanks! ^_^05:56
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elTigreljl chkrootkit didn't find anything suspicious05:57
PunjabiFLOYDIANpeople.  i need to ask a question. stupid as it mite be. do i need to worry bout viruses with linux?05:57
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isedeis there any way to make SATA RAID0 on FastRak card be recognized automatically, without manual qparted/dmraid runs (i read the howto)?05:57
Rico-PunjabiFLOYDIAN: not really05:58
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Rico-PunjabiFLOYDIAN: there does seem to be some linux anti-virus tools though :/05:58
elTigrehow can I owerwrite tail again?05:58
alexyeahhow to set the gdm display on 1024*768 and 4 all users as default05:58
alexyeahplease help me05:58
PunjabiFLOYDIANhmm. and - how can i configure the linux firewall?05:58
LjLelTigre: well, it's up to you. i'd still run them (chkrootkit and rkhunter) from a cd. also the suggestion to check your HD for problems is worth a shot (try a "smartctl -H /dev/hdwhatever" first, maybe it's *already* noticed a failure!)05:58
PunjabiFLOYDIANalex: what seems to be the problem?05:58
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elTigre don't have smartctl05:59
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frfxi want to edit partitions with gparted.but before some of my partitions there is a lock and i can't edti them05:59
LjLelTigre: instrall smartmontools05:59
alexyeahits so little that i can see nothing05:59
smaxtomcat_ hello! do you remember the problem with libstdc++05:59
supermiguelhow can i add users to proftpd05:59
Tomcat_smax: Yes.05:59
elTigrehow can I reinstall tail?05:59
PunjabiFLOYDIANfrfx: you using Gparted as live cd? or from linux?05:59
alexyeahits a monitor 4 1024*768 and not for 1280*...05:59
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KenSentMefrfx: you have to unmount them before you can edit them05:59
PunjabiFLOYDIANexactly. or run it from a live CD05:59
LjLelTigre: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install the-relevant-package", which might be "binutils" or something... i'll check right now. however, i'd wait until you find out what the root problem is06:00
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smaxTomcat_ I update this package and over everething is fine. I'm so happy )))06:00
frfxi am using gparted from my ubuntu.but i cant unmount them because i am using them06:00
Sonofaqalexyeah are you running xgl06:00
Saftoolwols_: when I added noacpi and acpi=off it gives me an erro when it gets to that line "unrecognized"  should i have ventered differently in the boot parameters in grub?06:00
PunjabiFLOYDIANfrfx: then you need a LIVE CD06:00
RedGhostWhere can I change which file types are automatically opened with what? (gnome) ??06:00
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alexyeah?06:00
LjLelTigre: the package is "coreutils"06:00
PunjabiFLOYDIANdownload it. its just 30 MB06:00
alexyeahid dont know06:00
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Sonofaqdont worry hang oni'll just check where the file is you need to edi06:01
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metalheddhow can I get gcc 4.1 on dapper? I need it torun as a distcc server.06:01
frfxPunjabiFLOYDIAN: there is nothing like partition magic on m$? it edits the partitions while rebooting06:01
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elTigreI'm behind a firewall, tooo06:01
LjLmetalhedd: i'm afraid you can't do that very easily06:01
Sonofaqalexyeah are you using a live cd and are you using a nvidia graphics card or radeon06:01
smax PunjabiFLOYDIAN gparted06:01
PunjabiFLOYDIANactually Gparted can act like that. but u need to unmount. why not try the LIVE CD/06:02
smaxPunjabiFLOYDIAN cfdisk06:02
metalheddLjL: whats the hard way? i don't mind.06:02
PunjabiFLOYDIANsmax: help frfx. LOL. i know it.06:02
habeebI installed fglrx, and my resolution changed from 1680x1050 to 1024x768. How can I turn it back? I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but the resolution values keep reseting after every X restart :/06:02
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KenSentMe!fixres06:02
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:02
wols_Saftool: no you did it right. it was only a guess tho06:02
cleerenhello everybody06:02
smaxPunjabiFLOYDIAN ?06:02
PunjabiFLOYDIANyeah?06:03
KenSentMecleeren: hi06:03
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alexyeahi dont use a live cd & use a diamond viper 16 mb06:03
LjLmetalhedd: don't really know... perhaps compile gcc by hand ("nightmare" comes to mind here), or use an Edgy package (and break everything)... but what about just installing the GCC that's on Dapper on your *other* machines you want to run distcc on?06:03
zmutteHeya, I have a problem with wlan. I am trying to confige iwconfig to be able to connect to my stationary computer through ad hoc. the stationary computer runs a dhcp server, but after configuring the iwconfig and trying to get a ip from dhclient nothing happens06:03
frfxPunjabiFLOYDIAN: thanks for your help :) but how can i setup gparted to act like that? but i cant unmount the partitions because i am using them..06:03
alexyeahv55006:03
RedGhostWhere can I change which file types are automatically opened with what? (gnome) ??06:03
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b^janyone know why i can't get to my virtual consoles by typing ctrl-alt-F[1-6] 06:03
fyrestrtrfrfx: boot from the livecd.06:03
PunjabiFLOYDIANfrfx: get the live CD from gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php06:03
Sonofaqalexyeah:ok hang on here the link to all the info you need  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:04
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PunjabiFLOYDIANand u have to unmount before chanign the partitions06:04
smaxfrfx what's problem with?06:04
Sonofaqjust go through that and use common sense06:04
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PunjabiFLOYDIANwhich is very obvious. and no - itcant be like partition magic06:04
metalheddLjL: cuz that machine already has alot of stuff compiled with 4.106:04
KenSentMeRedGhost: go to a certain file in nautilus, right click, open with... and select the program you want to open the file with06:04
frfxPunjabiFLOYDIAN: ok thanks for your help :) but i thought i can also use the ubuntu live cd no?06:04
cleereni have added a new user, everything works fine but the sound is not recognized. in the original admin user the sound works fine? what's wrong? thanx for your help06:04
wols_cleeren: add the user to the group "audio"06:05
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PunjabiFLOYDIANfrfx: agreed. that also works. but maybe it will autmount every partition. adn u have to unmount.06:05
b^jcleeren, i would guess a permission issue06:05
IvanowitchHi. I have a somehwat annoying problem... no matter how i try to connect to a network printer, i always get the message that the "bakcend" for that particular connection type failed, I am using the html interface to configure CUPS06:05
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PunjabiFLOYDIANdownload the Gparted live CD. its very very handy. better than Pqmagic06:05
smaxPunjabiFLOYDIAN He can used partition magic if he like it. partition magic can work whith ext3fs06:05
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fyrestrtrIvanowitch: why not use the gnome cups interface?06:05
frfxPunjabi: ok many thanks :)06:05
PunjabiFLOYDIANsmax: yup. but for that he needs Windows06:05
PunjabiFLOYDIAN:D06:05
Ivanowitchbecause i use xfce, not gnome...06:05
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PunjabiFLOYDIANno problem! Free Software rules! Dont use Partition Magic06:06
frfxPunjabi: i used partition magic but it gaves errors :s06:06
smaxPunjabiFLOYDIAN No He can run it from boot cd06:06
PunjabiFLOYDIANLOL. it sucks i know!06:06
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frfx:)06:06
LjLmetalhedd: well, i pass. i wouldn't have a clue how to install it without breaking half of the system. perhaps a chroot might be of help (or even a virtual machine with a gcc-4.1 system on it, if you think it's worth doing), though still i couldn't guide you into the specifics06:06
PunjabiFLOYDIANfrfx: i sincerely recommend that u give the Gparted CD a try.06:06
ladydoorfrfx: i'll second the gparted suggestion...06:07
frfxi hope gparted wont give errors :) ok i will follow your recommendation :)06:07
smaxfrfx What error06:07
cleerenwols:i have lost connection, please can you explain this to me, about my sound problem?06:07
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Saftoolwols_:I went in edit and pressed o to add line then edit gain to add acpi= off then noacpi on another line.  I then pressed b for boot.. but it gives me line 27 unrecognized command06:07
frfxsmax: dont know. error #xxxx something like that :)06:07
PunjabiFLOYDIANfrfx: parted is very stable. i found it very useful. handles every partition.06:07
supermigueldoes any one know about ftp?06:07
lupine_85add the line to the end of the kernel line06:07
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ladydoorSaftool: which one of those two lines is line 27?06:07
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b^jsupermiguel, what do you need06:07
lupine_85(rather than creating a new one!)06:07
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Saftoolladydoor:noacpi06:08
smaxfrfx If you have error's you may have try something like acronis soft06:08
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fulldhow do i get gaim2 for dapper? do i have to use some soft of backport from edgy?06:08
ladydoorSaftool: yeah, definitely put it with the kernel options.06:08
PunjabiFLOYDIANsudo apt-get install gaim06:08
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ladydoorfulld: you could just install from source...06:08
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RedGhostKenSentMe, I know how to open the file, I just want the default command to x not y06:08
Saftoolladydoor:on one of the kernel lines above it?06:08
tritiumgaim should be installed by default06:08
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frfxsmax: nah i think it is a problem of partition magic.that program sucks06:09
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ladydoorSaftool: yup...06:09
supermiguelb^j:  locally i can access to my ftp page but when someone else try to access it ask for the password when he put the right password it give im error06:09
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Saftoolnot on its own06:09
cleerenwols_ : can you please help me again, i have lost the connection and the information you've sent...06:09
Saftoolcool trying again06:09
smaxfrfx What did you wanna do whith your partitin table?06:09
frfxsmax: just make partitions larger or smaller :)06:09
ladydoortritium: this person'a asking about the *new* gaim, not the old one.06:10
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jribcleeren: 12:04 <           wols_ > cleeren: add the user to the group "audio"06:10
Intangirfrfx: check out gparted06:10
smaxfrfx by delete old partition's and creating new  or by resizing ?06:10
tritiumladydoor: okay06:10
ladydoorfulld: if you go to their website, they have the source for gaim2.0.0beta3, and you can just install that if you divert ubuntu's gaim to another location06:10
cleerenjrib: how can i do this?06:11
b^jsupermiguel, what ftp server do you use, you may have to add a user to the specail ftp users, you may have to mark them as ok in your ftp configuration, any number of things, i am not familiar with many ftp servers so you will probably have to read the fine manual for your server06:11
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ladydoorfulld: (with sudo sudo dpkg-divert --divert /usr/bin/gaim.ubuntu --rename /usr/bin/gaim06:11
ladydoor)06:11
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jribcleeren: system > adminstration > users and groups.  Go to properties for your user, then "user privileges", and let him "use audio devices"06:11
supermiguelim using gproftpd06:11
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Saftoolladydoor: tried it and no error messages from the boot options but still getting the i8042 error and still hangign at the login screen06:12
supermiguelthe error on windows says that i dont have permision to do it06:12
cleerenjrib: thanx a lot, i'll try this...06:12
ladydoorSaftool: sorry, i wasn't here for the first part of your problem...i'd ask someone who was helping you before :-(06:12
shoonyahi all06:12
cleerenjrib/ i suppose i have to be root to do this?06:13
Saftoolladydoor:its ok i am giving up and stickign to windows :S06:13
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jribcleeren: no, but you need a user with sudo privileges (your original user works)06:13
shoonyaneed help in installing ubuntu edgy knot306:13
ladydoorSaftool: whatever you like06:13
cleerenjrib: yes - ok thanx06:13
ladydoorshoonya: there'll be more help in #ubuntu+106:13
shoonyaok06:13
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fulldladydoor: thanks06:14
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ladydoorfulld: np.06:14
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Tomcat_smax: Good. :D06:15
optimusprimecan openoffice be installed through "apt-get"?06:16
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LjLoptimusprime: yes06:16
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smaxTomcat_ No fighting with compiz ))06:16
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LjLoptimusprime: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org" (or my favourite "sudo aptitude install openoffice.org")06:16
cbx33how do we install compiz now06:16
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cbx33smax, is it still the howto on the wiki?06:16
babyHow to install Q-cam?06:17
cbx33https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager06:17
smaxcbx33 howto don't help me my gnome crashed06:17
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cbx33smax, oh, I had that happen before06:17
cbx33you're using xgl server?06:17
smaxcbx33 yes06:18
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cbx33which repos did you get the packages from06:18
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smaxcbx33 dapper repo06:19
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cbx33smax, when I did it and got it working i used the quinn repo06:19
adrianIf anyone has 2 minutes, I am a very new convert. I read that ubuntu does not have a firewall switched on initially on install. Is this correct, and is it the same with kubuntu? thx in advance06:19
PunjabiFLOYDIANhow can i clear up my desktop? remove every icon?06:19
cbx33https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager06:19
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LjLadrian: that's correct.06:20
kaoltihey06:20
LjL!shorewall06:20
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)06:20
kaoltican i ask a question06:20
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PunjabiFLOYDIANkaolti: no one is stopping you! ask06:20
adrianThanks, so I need to look for that then thanks06:20
YaakovI think you just did...06:20
kaoltihow can i format a fat32 drive from ubuntu?06:20
LjLadrian: firestarter and shorewall are the two most common choices for firewall interfaces, i think06:20
txoofI'm attempting to apt-get packages from the multiverse.  I've added the multiverse lines to /etc/apt/sources.list but the packages don't appear in dselect and apt-get can't find them.  Any ideas where I should start with this problem?06:20
LjLadrian: however, until you install a server program, i don't think you should worry too much about firewalling06:21
kaoltii have a windows drive06:21
kaoltiof no06:21
b^jkaolti, mkdosfs06:21
kaoltisrty06:21
kaoltiits ntfs06:21
smaxcbx33 don't you know where I can download this pack's manualy ( I have traffic limit)06:21
LjLtxoof: "sudo apt-get update"06:21
PunjabiFLOYDIANguys how can i clear up the desktop06:21
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silent_screamI installed lirc with success! now how can i control aplications with my remote? i use gnome...06:21
kaoltithe ntfs is mounted06:21
txoofLjL: it claimst that it is hitting backports/multiverse, but I still can't find the pacages.06:21
kaoltii cant acces it06:21
surfacePunjabiFLOYDIAN:  cd ~/.Desktop06:22
kaoltibut i have to format it06:22
b^jkaolti, ntfs is a whole other can of worms, i don't deal with it so can't help you, good luck06:22
kaoltimkdosfs doesnt work06:22
txoofpackages.ubuntu.com claim that they are there.06:22
kaoltiok06:22
PunjabiFLOYDIANi want to clear the icons off it06:22
kaoltibut wait06:22
kaoltii dont need the data on it06:22
PunjabiFLOYDIANi want to remove the icons. how to?06:22
b^jmkdos is only fat06:22
LjLtxoof: what package is that?06:22
txoofLjL: mythtv06:22
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txoofLjL: it's supposed to be in dapper, but I can't find it.06:22
LjLtxoof: can you put your sources.list on the pastebin?06:22
LjLyes, it is in multiverse indeed06:22
PunjabiFLOYDIANguys how to remove the icons from the desktop please?06:23
lupine_85!info mythtv dapper06:23
ubotumythtv: A personal video recorder application (client and server). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.18.1-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 64 kB06:23
LjLPunjabiFLOYDIAN: right click on them, and remove?06:23
lupine_85there it is :)06:23
smaxbmpx is in dapper repo or not06:23
txoofLjL: sure can.  What's the link to the pastebin?06:23
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PunjabiFLOYDIANnot possible. there are drives.06:23
smax!info mythtv dappe06:23
ubotumythtv: A personal video recorder application (client and server). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.18.1-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 64 kB06:23
kaoltii just have to delete the partition06:23
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LjL!tell txoof about pastebin06:23
smax!info mythtv dapper06:23
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ubotumythtv: A personal video recorder application (client and server). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.18.1-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 64 kB06:23
kaoltihow can i do it?06:23
kaoltii cant unomunt it06:23
kaoltidevice is busy06:23
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smax!info bmpx dapper06:23
ubotuPackage bmpx does not exist in dapper06:23
lupine_85kaolti: cd /06:23
cdavishow do I name a screen when I ctrl-a c to make a new one?06:23
b^jkaolti, you have some application, probably a terminal in that dir, cd out of it06:23
lupine_85then try unmounting it06:23
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smaxWhich program I should used to run windows or edgy by virtual machine?06:24
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kaoltioh sorry06:24
kaoltii got it06:24
lupine_85!qemu06:24
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo06:24
lupine_85!vmware06:24
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare06:24
kaoltithank06:24
kaoltis06:24
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LjLsmax: QEmu, or VMWare, or Virtual PC06:24
adrianthank you LjL and ubotu I am now immersing myself again. I am really glad of the help and very impressed with the package and ethos. Thumgs up to all :)06:24
carlphello, when i try to boot ubuntu, i get error: "Error #20    AX=4200    Drive EF"    any clues?06:25
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LjLsmax: only the former two run on Linux, and only the first is open source06:25
txoofLjL: I posted the relevant stuff.06:25
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LjLtxoof: what's the link? (and hold on a moment, 'cause for some reason i can't connect to the pastebin)06:25
LjLtxoof: ok, nevermind, connected and found it06:26
b^jcan anyone tell me what became of my virtual terminals, i seem to have lost them and would like them back06:26
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txoofLjL: here's a link to the entire file: http://txoof.ath.cx/sources.list06:26
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lsprocHi. I installed the standard aresnal of web servers (apache, php, mysql etc.). I try to run a php script, and it tries to download it06:27
b^jlsproc, php probably doesn't have a file handler in  your httpd.conf file06:27
JosefKanyone seen "timestamp too far in the future" on a clean install of Dapper?06:27
carlphello, when i try to boot ubuntu, i get error: "Error #20    AX=4200    Drive EF"    any clues??06:27
JosefKcan't sudo because of it :/06:27
LjLtxoof: can't load that one either, my connection is acting up... but i got to downlaod the pastebin one. is that your *entire* sources.list? it's a bit short, and it only lists backports, not multiverse?06:27
b^jJosefK, is your time right?06:27
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lsprocb^j: What shall I add?06:27
txoofLjL: that's just the line that lists the multiverse section.06:28
LjLtxoof: you have to enable the multiverse part *of the dapper repository*, not of the dapper-backports repository06:28
b^jlsproc, ahh, i don't remember, the httpd.conf ifile is well documented in the file06:28
lsprocnope06:28
lsprocit isnt06:28
JosefKb^j: date reports okay06:28
txoofLjL: I see that now.06:28
LjLtxoof: every repository (dapper, dapper-backports, dapper-etcetc) has the "main", "universe", "multiverse" etc sections06:29
afd_hi! I'm having problems with my ethernet connection. The internet works fine, but as soon as I try to transfer large files on the local network, the network connection freezes and I'm getting NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out in the dmesg06:29
b^jlsproc, it is in other distros, i don't run ubuntu as a server06:29
txoofI just realized that.06:29
afd_Anyone has a clue on what I should do? Googling didn't help06:29
JosefKb^j: I think it wasn't when I installed (1 hr+), networked time update set it correct, so after an hour it should be okay *sighs*06:29
txoofLjL: where can I find a link to the proper multiverse entry?06:29
LjLtxoof: so if you only enable multiverse in dapper-backports, you only get the packages from multiverse *that have been backported* (which, i guess, is next to zero)06:29
b^jJosefK, yeah, should be06:29
LjL!tell txoof about sources06:29
LjL!tell txoof about easysource06:29
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b^jlsproc, i have something like     AddType application/x-httpd-php .php on freebsd, i would assume its the same06:31
lsprocah06:31
lsprocthanks06:31
cbx33how do I install tahoma.ttf in ubuntu for wine?06:31
cbx33msttcorefonts pacakge doesn't exist any more06:31
b^jlsproc, sorry that took so long had to jump through a couple systems to get to a host with apache06:32
txoofLjl what source do I want for mythtv?  It's listed as part of the multiverse on packages.ubuntu.com06:32
lsprocstill no worky06:32
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lsprocah06:33
lsprocanyone know where the php5 apache module is06:33
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b^jlsproc, you restart apache? is the php module loaded via a LoadModule php5_module        libexec/apache/libphp5.so or similar?06:33
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lsprocah06:33
erUSULcbx33: i found it in google and just ccopied it to ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts/06:33
lsproci need the loadmodule06:33
cbx33ok cool06:33
trappistlsproc: libapache2-mod-php506:33
trappistlsproc: apache or apache2?06:33
lsprocapache206:34
lsprocwith the libapache06:34
trappistlsproc: install the above package and sudo a2enmod php506:34
trappista2enmod as in apach2 enable module06:34
trappist*apache206:34
lsprocthanks06:34
lsproc:D06:35
lsprocworks06:35
lsprocnow, whenever apache loads I get this error:06:35
lsprocapache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName06:35
lsprochow do i fix that06:35
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b^jlsproc, specify a fqdn in you /etc/hosts and refer to it in your httpd.conf file06:36
trappistlsproc: set ServerName in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf06:36
lsprocuh06:36
lsprocoh06:36
lsprocset it to localhost?06:36
b^ji think it needs to be in your hosts file too, not sure06:36
trappistb^j: httpd.conf isn't really used anymore06:36
trappistb^j: it doesn't have to be in /etc/hosts, as long as it's resolvable06:37
lsprocit didnt06:37
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lsprocits localhost so it doesnt06:37
b^jtrappist, like i said, i don't use ubuntu for servers, i use freebsd or openbsd which still use it06:37
CNotehello, I have a question on using Hibernation feature on an IBM thinkpad, how to enable it ec.06:37
CNoteetc06:37
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trappistb^j: with apache2?06:38
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b^jtrappist, i think i am still using apaceh 1.* due to some random php  issues06:38
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b^ji would need to look06:38
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trappistb^j: same here on freebsd (but not for php issues, which have pretty much been resolved) - anyway httpd.conf is ye olde apache config file, still exists for backwards compatibility, but it's apache2.conf in apache206:39
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HumanPrototypehey - which kernel is best for an amd dual core?06:40
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b^ji68606:40
b^jerr06:40
trappistHumanPrototype: amd64 dual core?06:40
b^jsorry didn't read all your question06:40
b^jia64 i would guess, i have intel duo06:41
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soniumdoes anyone know a site that does a security check on my server? something like nessus, but online?06:41
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wols_b^j: wrong06:41
WinterWeaver!compiz06:41
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems06:41
wols_HumanPrototype: k8. if that's not possible, k706:41
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HumanPrototypetrappist, yup06:42
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HumanPrototypewols_,  oh ok, thanks06:42
xstRemote printing with CUPS over IPP has been broken in dapper for quite some time now. Does anyone know when a fix for this bug will be available? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/5524306:42
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b^jwols_, wow, i can't type today, meant amd6406:43
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chiefinnovatorOK, I want to install FreeNx, and the wiki points me to this page: http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/  and just says "Add repository", so how do I add this repository?06:43
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krupsb^j is still wrong.  if you have a k8 motherboard use that.  if you have a k7 motherboard use that.  spm enabled.06:43
krupsspm=smp06:44
erUSUL!seveas06:44
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages06:44
erUSUL!seveas > chiefinnovator06:44
trappistunless of course he has/wants an amd64 system06:44
chiefinnovatorthanks erUSUL06:44
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dracheI tried to install Ubuntu on my system, I've got a eVga geforce 7600 GS, and X refuses to start, even on the live disk.06:45
erUSULchiefinnovator: no problem06:45
HumanPrototypei have an amd 64bit skt 939 x206:45
TuxthePenguin84drache, do the vesa driver or the "Safe install"06:45
dracheNo idea.06:45
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b^jdo amd64 run on k7? i thought they were all k806:46
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rootzanyone know some other mirror do knot-3?06:46
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TuxthePenguin84try the safe install mode on the live cd06:46
the_killerhi there !!06:46
dracheRight-o.06:46
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TuxthePenguin84drache, this will use the vesa driver06:46
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dracheLame though, I'll have like 0 hardware acceleration06:46
TuxthePenguin84yea but then you can setup the nvidia drivers later to have acceleration06:47
TuxthePenguin84i have the same problem with my ati drivers06:47
chiefinnovatorI'm going to update the wiki page on installing FreeNx06:47
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chiefinnovatorhow do I link to another page on the wiki AND how do I do italics06:47
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dracheUbuntu is the only distro so far to barf on Nvidia :\06:48
HumanPrototypechiefinnovator, try either [[ ] ]  or [[[ ] ] ] 06:48
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ismaelboolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa06:48
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HumanPrototypefor italics06:48
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chiefinnovatorHumanPrototype, italics is '' ''06:49
ismaelboolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa angela06:49
chiefinnovatorread the bottom of the page ...06:49
chiefinnovatorHumanPrototype, sweet name!!!06:49
ismaelboola angela06:49
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dracheHow do I get this thing to do a safe install mode?06:49
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Admiral_Chicagodrache, safe?06:50
rene32Any recommendations for a UPnP server?06:50
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TuxthePenguin84when you boot from the live cd theres a menu, choose safe video or safe install. cant remember which one06:50
mic_net06:50
ismaelboolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa06:50
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ismaelbohola tuna06:50
HumanPrototypechiefinnovator, oh ok - i was thinkin of the doc.gwos site06:51
lupine_85!es06:51
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:51
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HumanPrototypechiefinnovator, thanks bout the name06:51
rene32!upnp06:51
Arcad3hi folks06:51
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about upnp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:51
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ismaelboyo soy espaol06:51
Arcad3hola06:51
dracheI get 0 amount of choices.06:51
ismaelbohola06:51
kintaro0ehello guys..i cant hear sounds on youtube.com ..what shall i need to install?06:51
[BTF] Chm0dhey guys im trying to unrar something using ark and i get this error The utility unrar is not in your PATH any suggestions?06:51
dracheI get... hit enter to for default live system06:51
TuxthePenguin84drache, no menu with a few options?06:52
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dracheNo menu.06:52
drachePeriod.06:52
kitche[BTF] Chm0d: you probably don't have unrar installed06:52
ismaelbohola06:52
TuxthePenguin84what version of the ubuntu live cd do you have?06:52
drache5.10 , it's an older version :\06:52
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dpm[BTF] Chm0d: I know it may sound obvious, but have you installed unrar?06:52
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chiefinnovatorwow, I still can't do links on the wiki!  I want to link to another wiki page, is there a special syntax or do I just treat it like a normal link?06:52
jasomjahi, i have dapper , and want kvim, i try vim-part, last yzis , but nothing finish good, is some way to install vim as kde componnet ? (with compiling yzis i have problem with lib lua) , .... any ideas ??06:52
[BTF] Chm0ddidn't know i needed unrar thought ark handled rar files06:52
ismaelboalguien espaol spain06:52
TuxthePenguin84drache, oh ok you might want to download 6.06.1 LIVE CD06:52
[BTF] Chm0dbut ill install unrar06:52
Arcad3nornal link06:52
dracheOh great.... another CD to download.06:53
erUSUL!es > ismaelbo06:53
jazzrockerjasomja, just use gvim?06:53
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Arcad3who can help me with this code ef4ce60654d75c40415ed44db0460e94?06:53
P3L|C4N0ismaelbo, ingrese en  #ubuntu-es06:53
jazzrockerjasomja, if you use gvim why not use GNOME?06:53
TuxthePenguin84drache, or try this....06:53
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trappistArcad3: huh06:53
jasomjajazzrocker> i want use it as komponent fo kdevelop, od kyzis06:53
LiraNunaArcad3, what is this code for?06:53
ismaelbohola06:53
Arcad3a text06:53
TuxthePenguin84drache, if X fails to start get to a command prompt type: sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:53
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jazzrockerjasomja, vim was not designed to do that. that's why the kvim project branched, they've got different development goals. vim is not aimed at being an embedable widget06:54
TuxthePenguin84drache, look for 'driver' and put 'vesa' next to tit06:54
trappistArcad3: it's just a bunch of hex characters.  it's useless without knowing what it is.06:54
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dracheHooray, xorg.conf editing, my favourite.06:54
TuxthePenguin84then do startx06:54
Arcad3Md5 Hash06:54
Caplainwhats a good dvd player?06:54
trappistArcad3: and you want to do what with it.  reverse it?06:54
LiraNunaVLC06:54
dracheThanks, I needed to know what to edit in there.06:54
jribCaplain: xine06:54
kitche[BTF] Chm0d: ark is a frontend to tar unrar rar zip and gzip06:54
dpmI've got a weird "error" with Evolution 2.8 in Edgy. If I launch it from the applications menu ('evolution --component=mail'), it works fine. However, if I start it from a keyboard shortcut defined under System>Preferences>Keyboart Shortcuts>Email, it does not seem to communicate with the gnome-keyring daemon, since it asks me for the password of each and every account upon startup. Any ideas what this could be?06:54
Arcad3yes06:54
dracheI'll try it as soon as it boots.06:54
erUSULismaelbo: deja de repetir hola y vete a #ubuntu-es (como se te ha dicho 4 o 5 veces) si queres soporte en castellano06:54
jribdpm: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support06:54
[BTF] Chm0dgot it kitche THX06:54
TuxthePenguin84find 'driver' and put 'vesa' in whatevers theres place06:55
dpmjrib: thanks06:55
trappistArcad3: it's theoretically irreversible.  if you have a massive supercomputer handy, you can probably do it in a few years, though.06:55
wols_TuxthePenguin84: that's the wrong way to do it06:55
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wols_drache: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:55
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TuxthePenguin84hes using a livecd06:55
Arcad3i'll try something else06:55
ismaelbohola06:55
dracheNo06:55
dracheI have my dead install06:55
ladydoor!es06:55
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:55
dracheThat's already on the HD06:55
TuxthePenguin84oh i thought you said it was a livecd06:56
wols_Tidus: it'S still irreversible06:56
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trappistArcad3: also, it's an md5sum of what.  if it's a password, the supercomputer route is your best bet.  if it's like a cd image or something, it absolutely can't be done.06:56
dracheI have both06:56
wols_Arcad3: you can't since a md5 hash cannot contain the full information of the original unless that original is not bigger than 128 bits06:56
drachebut I have a dead install as well06:56
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Arcad3i thing is a phppage06:56
TuxthePenguin84the dead install wont let you get to a command line?06:56
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Arcad3encrypted06:57
lin0mako_ : hi06:57
trappistArcad3: can't be done.06:57
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wols_Arcad3: a md5has is no encryption06:57
ismaelbohola alguien espaol06:57
trappistismaelbo: #ubuntu-es06:57
ladydoor!es06:57
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:57
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Caplainjrib, what about totem? i cant get it to work, whines about plugins etc06:58
sychook this may sound silly but its something I'm trying to work around. When I put nautilus into "view as list" mode when I copy a file I can't right click and then paste as nautilis always selects a file? anyway that I can make it so when i right click it dosn't select a file or that I can paste?06:58
dracheWHOA06:58
drachewe have picture06:58
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wols_drache: what videocard do you have? what chip?06:58
dracheThrough the muddled mess of the dpkg method06:58
dracheeVga 7600GS06:58
drache256MB06:59
wols_nv driver should work06:59
wols_!nvidia06:59
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:59
dracheSeriously? That gives full acceleration?06:59
wols_2D06:59
trappistdrache: no06:59
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wols_drache: but anything is better than VESA06:59
lin0mako_ : Hi. I have a question for you regarding your participation in the 4th World Forum on Free Knowledge06:59
lupine_85what's wrong with the nvidia driver?06:59
vovikanyone know when edgy release is?06:59
lupine_85!schedul07:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about schedul - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:00
lupine_85!schedule07:00
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule07:00
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TuxthePenguin84october i think07:00
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TuxthePenguin84maybe november07:00
vovikdamn07:00
voviki was hoping beginning of october07:00
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vovikso october 26th?07:01
trappistyes07:01
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manue1como va esto??07:02
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ladydoor!es07:02
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:02
erUSUL!es07:02
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supermiguel!es07:02
erUSULladydoor: i'm not fast enough ;)07:02
vovikhmm my xchat doesn't show the n-tilde07:02
CrippsFXI'm running Ubuntu Dapper amd64 ... I have a bcm4318 card, which if you didn't know, has broken firmware for bcm43xx module ... so, I'm using ndiswrapper ... after finally working around module aliasing probs and such, I finally got my card up, and doing "iwlist eth1 scan" flawlessly ... my problem is that I don't seem to be able to acquire an address from my AP ... any suggestions?07:02
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dracheHnn... nv drivers barf as well07:02
GigaClonI seem to have both mozilla and firefox on this system can I remove mozilla?07:02
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dracheIt'll be VESA until I can go through that setup07:03
DutchR_PWGigaClon: probably07:03
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erUSULCrippsFX: have you tried 'sudo dhclient eth1'07:03
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CrippsFXdrache, if the nv driver is euchered, then just get the proprietary accelerated drivers ;)07:03
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ladydoorerUSUL: lol07:03
DutchR_PWGigaClon: but maybe it's needed for some other package (try removing it, it will tell you if this is the case)07:03
dracheIt won't let me build them I'm quite sure.07:04
dracheI tried before, it eats me in GCC errors and many weird things07:04
soniumtest07:04
knapperhow can I fix the shift+backspace bug? anyone know?07:04
GigaClonDutchR_PW, the only thing its remove is libswt07:04
CrippsFXerUSUL, That was the first thing I tried. I don't use the gui to set up my networking.07:04
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michaelhi07:04
CrippsFXdrache, read the how to for hardware on the ubuntu wiki ... you don't need to build them.07:04
Admiral_Chicagoknapper, XGL?07:05
DutchR_PWGigaClon: then it can probably be deinstalled (as nothing depends on that lib)07:05
dracheI know, it just does a mild little setup07:05
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knapperAdmiral, I figured it out, tnx07:05
drachea couple of "Returns" should get it working.07:05
dracheWhat's the link to the HOWTO?07:05
james296for some reason I cant remove easyubuntu using Synaptic because it says this...07:05
CrippsFXdrache, gimme a sec, I'll dig it up.07:05
dracheThank you.07:06
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james296E: easyubuntu: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 107:06
michaeli read http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Java that there is a final built sun java package for dapper07:06
james296why is that?07:06
erUSULjames296:you will get better suport in  #easyubuntu07:06
ladydoorGigaClon: sudo aptitude remove mozilla-browser07:06
CrippsFXdrache, https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html07:06
michaeltherefor i added deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted multiverse to my sources.list07:07
GTXb07:07
GTXHow do I recomplie my kernel to support 1000 Timer frequency07:07
michaelbut i cant finde the sun java packages by using adept07:07
erUSUL!kernel07:07
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild07:07
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michaelwhat am i doing wrong ?07:07
wols_GTX: erm, didn't the kernel do this since... 486 days or so?07:07
wols_!java07:07
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository07:07
GTXwols_, Yes it supports 1000 by I need to set it to that some how.07:08
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erUSULwols_: no it was 100 then got changed to 1000 then reverted to 250 and now you can choose betwwen the three options07:08
wols_GTX: you mean the scheduler which decides how many context switches per second?07:08
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michaelubotu, ok... and how can i use the multiverse repository07:08
GTXno wols_ Kernel Clocker Timer.07:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ok... and how can i use the multiverse repository - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:08
michaelby adding multiverse to my sources list ?07:09
CrippsFX!multiverse07:09
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource07:09
erUSULwols_: in the future with the dynticks patch it will bo timerless to save battery and resources07:09
CrippsFXmichael, that's for you07:09
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Astray:o07:10
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AstrayHi.07:11
carlpwhen i download ubuntu, it only says 399megabyte in windows for the .iso  ....   why?07:11
carlpbut i have downloaded 69907:11
Jack_Sparrowcarlp: Is that the alt cd/iso07:12
tobyI have 2 monitors that are set up so that you can't move the mouse from one to the other (this is on purpose) there is a key combination to move the mouse cursor between them but I don't know it - any help?07:12
carlpJack_Sparrow:  no07:12
carlpdesktop i38607:12
Jack_Sparrowmd5sum will probably show a bad download07:12
carlpi have downloaded it 2 times aswell07:12
DutchR_PWcarlp: probably windows shows a wrong filesize or your download is corrupt.07:13
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carlpok07:13
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AstrayYour download didn't finish if it's that small07:13
DutchR_PWcarlp: but if the md5sum is right, you shouldn't worry about it07:13
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Jack_Sparrownero has a freeware md5 checker07:13
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drache....07:13
dracheYeah that didn't work out so well07:14
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SS2does epiphany have a tab remember function?07:14
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carlpwhere is the md5 checker in nero?07:15
dracheNow I just get a X trying to start, and then hanging there.07:15
dracheWith the white cursor.07:15
wols_carlp: google "windows md5sum download". there are many programs.07:15
dracheI have to mess with this crap later.07:15
drachethanks for your help!!07:16
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Z-DoCHello, I have a question ... can you install Ubuntu from the cd without booting the cd? I have a compaq laptop that don't want to boot from the cd ....07:16
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DutchR_PWZ-DoC: you can, but it will be very hard07:17
Jack_Sparrowcarlp: Google nero md5 .. it is a sep. program you download from them07:17
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DutchR_PWas you have to copy the cd to your harddisk manually07:17
Z-DoCthat's what i figured :)07:17
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Z-DoCis there a procedure for that ?07:17
wols_Z-DoC: you might be able to make a boot floppy07:18
DutchR_PWI don't know exactly.. you probably have to copy the cd to one harddisk partition first, and then boot from that HD, and then install to another partition07:18
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juanluiscomo te llamas07:19
Jack_Sparrow!es07:19
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:19
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Lunar_Lampok, i understand that xchat doesn't use ident by default, but is there a guide on how to enable and use it on ubuntu?07:19
Lunar_Lamp!ident07:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ident - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:19
Tomcat_Lunar_Lamp: The xchat website has some info on that.07:19
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wols_Lunar_Lamp: get and identd. midentd comes to mind07:20
deathz0rhi, i just installed my ubuntu cd on a laptop (acer aspire 3000 series) and i can't set up the modem.07:20
Z-DoCok thanks for the ideas..... :)07:20
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Tomcat_Lunar_Lamp: Basically, you install an ident server (whatever you want) and open the port.07:20
nysosymhi guys07:20
wols_deathz0r: it's prpbably a winmodem07:20
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deathz0rwols_ means it wont work on ubuntu?07:20
Jack_Sparrowdeathz0r:  what type of modem is it?07:20
nysosymrhythmbox crashs with this message, maybe any workaround?07:20
nysosym(rhythmbox:8942): Rhythmbox-WARNING **: unassigned unicode character type found07:20
wols_deathz0r: probably. manufacturer doesn't give out specs or drivers07:21
Tomcat_Z-DoC: Probably easier to take the drive out and install somewhere else onto it... or install somewhere else altogether and copy the data over to your disk... should be a similar system then.07:21
carlpsorry for being a newbeginner, but "paste original checksum"   what should i paste ? :-)07:21
lin0mako_ : are you coming to the 4th world forum on free knowledge?07:21
Jack_Sparrowdeathz0r: Internal external. serial usb?07:21
deathz0rJack_Sparrow internal07:21
ladydoorLunar_Lamp: try installing ident207:21
deathz0rwols_ yeah, could be07:21
Lunar_Lampi don't really understand what ident is to be honest, i'm installing oidentd at the moment - and think i have to enable it in xinetd.conf07:21
ladydoorLunar_Lamp: (sudo aptitude install ident2)07:21
ladydoorLunar_Lamp: ok, go for it, then!07:21
Tomcat_Lunar_Lamp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ident07:21
Lunar_Lampis ident2 the 'best' then?07:21
wols_Lunar_Lamp: it's a crappy remnant of days gone by. useless now07:21
mike__is there a way to chat with webcam in linux07:21
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Jack_Sparrowdeathz0r: Does  typing in terminal show your modem  ...  dmesg | grep ttyS07:22
wols_deathz0r: your're talking about the v90 56k modem, right?07:22
Tomcat_Lunar_Lamp: Basically it asks the computer on the other side who the person is using the TCP connection... :o07:22
carlpsorry for being a newbeginner, but "paste original checksum"   what should i paste ? :-)07:22
deathz0ractually its v9207:22
deathz0rthe autodetect doesnt work07:22
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Tomcat_Lunar_Lamp: But these days, nobody cares anymore anyway.07:22
DutchR_PWmike_: yes, you can install Kopete or amsn which support webcam chatting afaik07:22
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Tomcat_TobiF \o/07:22
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deathz0rand also.. since i dual boot winxp and ubuntu07:22
DutchR_PWcarlp: the checksum from the site07:22
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mike__thaaks07:23
deathz0ri would like to config the grub loader07:23
Lunar_Lampthanks tomcat_ - how do i configure it though - as installed oidentd and it says te daemon is running - but i have no idea how to configure it07:23
deathz0rbut i cant find the root password07:23
Jack_Sparrowdeathz0r: Open a terminal window and type...  dmesg | grep ttyS07:23
DutchR_PWmike_: no problem07:23
deathz0rto su and nano it.07:23
wols_deathz0r: if you installed ubuntu after XP, it should be configured already for dualbooting07:23
Jack_Sparrow!sudo07:23
Tomcat_Lunar_Lamp: Check the docs in /usr/share/oidentd... check if there is a file /etc/oidentd or a directory... or /etc/default/oidentd... these are the usual places. The docs will know it though.07:23
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:23
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wols_deathz0r: there is none. use sudo07:23
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deathz0ryes but i want xp to be default07:23
Lunar_Lampthanks Tomcat_07:23
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deathz0rmy wife gets all crazy about it07:23
Jack_SparrowEasy to do07:23
Tomcat_deathz0r: /boot/grub/menu.lst has a "default" line setting.07:24
Jack_Sparrowdeathz0r: Pick one thing to do at a time07:24
mike__im also having problems with synaptic mouse in 6.0.607:24
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deathz0rTomcat_ yes i know but as many i come from debian and im used to use su, completely forgot about sudo :P07:24
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Jack_Sparrowmike__: asus motherboard or lappy07:24
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deathz0rso my default user is a sudoer?07:24
mike__laptop07:25
carlpim sorry, but i dont understand where to find the checksum :(07:25
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Lunar_LampTomcat_ i was under the impression (from in mIRC) that ident was used to specify a username - but i can't see how the conf-file can be used to do this :-s07:25
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Jack_Sparrowdeathz0r:    gksudo gedit  /boot/grub/menu.lst   I suggest a backup    sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst ~/menu.lst.backup07:25
ZemylaHey everyone.  Is vim 7.0 out as an apt package yet?07:25
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jazzrockerZemyla, yes07:26
wols_Lunar_Lamp: it will report the username the program runs under. or it will simpl,y make it up. as I said: identd is useless07:26
Dr_willis!info vim07:26
ubotuvim: Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor. In component main, is important. Version 1:6.4-006+2ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 541 kB, installed size 1100 kB07:26
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Dr_willis!vim07:26
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code07:26
ZemylaIt says that vim 6.4.6 is the latest version.07:26
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ZemylaHow do I update my lists?07:26
trappistZemyla: it's in edgy07:26
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jazzrockerZemyla, http://www.freshnet.org/debian/dapper/vim7/07:27
trappistZemyla: you don't usually get new versions of software in stable releases.  they generally backport bugfixes and security updates.07:27
ZemylaAh.07:27
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jazzrockerZemyla, you'll need to: sudo apt-get --purge remove vim07:27
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jazzrockerZemyla, then install vim707:27
gershon!info gnome-audio-profiles-properties07:27
ubotuPackage gnome-audio-profiles-properties does not exist in any distro I know07:27
robert_blah07:27
robert_dpkg-deb: parse error, in file `php4-4.4.2/DEBIAN/control' near line 9: missing package name07:27
jazzrockerZemyla, don't worry about that it wants to uninstall "ubuntu-desktop" because that's just a meta-package07:27
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trappistZemyla: what I do is add a deb-src entry in sources.list, apt-get source the package, and build it myself07:27
jazzrockerZemyla, you should uninstall all vim stuff btw07:27
ladydoorZemyla: you don't need to uninstall vim07:28
trappistZemyla: that is, add a deb-src line for edgy07:28
gershonsome1 on how to reset gnome's audio profiles?07:28
ladydoorZemyla: there's a useful command called dpkg-divert07:28
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ladydoorZemyla: which allows you to keep ubuntu's installed version, which things may depend on now or later.07:28
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ladydoorZemyla: sudo dpkg-divert --divert /usr/bin/vim.ubuntu --rename /usr/bin/vim07:28
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ladydoorjazzrocker: please see my last 4 comments to Zemyla--it's more useful and doesn't create dependency problems to use dpkg-divert than to uninstall, in this case.07:29
wetduckI need someone to help me to share a folder between a Mac with OS X installed and a PC/Ubuntu please.07:29
jazzrockerladydoor, i haven't had any dependency problems07:29
rdzhi all. i am trying to use xinerama, but as soon as xinerama is enabled and i start the X again, the welcome-screen appears completely messed up on the laptop-display. what can i do about that?07:30
rdz!ubotu xinerama07:30
ubotuxinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo07:30
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ladydoorjazzrocker: fair enough. however, it could cause problems to advise the same thing regarding other packages. for example, in Breezy i did this with firefox to install a more recent version, to avoid messing up anything that depended on firefox.07:31
POVaddctwith ati cards supported by the radeon driver (not fglrx), one should prefer MergedFB over xinerama07:31
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rdzPOVaddct, but i use fglrx07:34
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Prettohi there.. does anyone here installed a windows service app using wine???07:35
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POVaddctrdz: then i cannot help you. i only buy hardware the runs with open source drivers07:35
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POVaddcts/the/that07:35
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CrippsFXrdz, you can run aticonfig from the command line, and it will give you multihead with the right flags07:36
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CrippsFXrdz, if you run aticonfig with no options, and read what it has to say, it's trivial to set up multihead with fglrx07:37
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rednaxelwhat's the best practice to solve problems with UTF - ISO8859-1 conversion on samba shares? or NTFS/FAT partitions?07:37
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Prettoany help???07:38
lupine_85mount the partition nls=utf8 ?07:38
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lupine_85Pretto: as in a non-visual process?07:38
lupine_85don't think that's what wine is aimed at07:38
cbx33how do I put in preferences fo a package to be obtained fro ma specific repo?07:38
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CrippsFX!patience > Pretto07:39
lupine_85it "might" work, but I wouldn't rely on it07:39
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PrettoCrippsFX: i just asked.. no need to get attention :)07:39
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Prettolupine_85: yes.. i have a service that runs in background07:40
Prettolupine_85: almost like a webserver07:40
lupine_85like I said, it might work07:40
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CrippsFXPretto, over irc, the inflection on what you say is left to the imagination. It quite often gets misconstrued .. that's why it's best to avoid questions like that.07:40
rednaxellupine_85, do you have any sample? it's just nls or it needs another parametes07:41
lupine_85if you have the source, you'd be better compiling it against libwine07:41
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lupine_85rednaxel: no, sorry. I'm pretty sure it's just nls= though07:41
Prettolupine_85: it's proprietary,  i have the right to install it.. but i need to test if it can run on linux07:41
CrippsFXPretto, then what's stopping you?07:42
cbx33oh how lovely I get a segmentation fault when force version in synaptic07:42
marcin_anthi all07:42
Ploujany idea what I can do about this: http://sh.nu/p/3302 ?07:42
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marcin_antin topic on #ubuntu-kernel there is info that there is new kernel with fixed jmicron issue07:42
lupine_85Pretto: then install linux in a vmware machine and see if it runs07:42
marcin_antunfortunately there is no info where is this kernel available to download07:43
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PrettoCrippsFX: i did install it already, but seems that service isnt running... how can i check it?07:43
marcin_antdoes anyone here know if this patched kernel is/will be available for dapper?07:43
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wols_Plouj: it'S acknowledged as a bug but I dunno what you could do sorry.07:43
Ploujwols_: you mean there is a bug report about this on ubuntu's bugzilla?07:44
CrippsFXPretto, using " ps ax|grep <wine or servicename>" is a start07:44
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wols_Plouj: afaik yes07:44
wols_ipp being broken07:44
MetaMorfoziS!irda07:44
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about irda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:44
MetaMorfoziS!irnfra07:44
MetaMorfoziS!infra07:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about irnfra - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:44
MetaMorfoziS!ir07:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about infra - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ir - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:44
CrippsFXMetaMorfoziS, what are you looking for?07:45
wols_!msg > MetaMorfoziS07:45
fyrestrtrMetaMorfoziS: learn to /msg ubotu yourquery instead of spamming the channel.07:45
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MetaMorfoziSi want to use my ma600 dongle on ubuntu dapper07:45
Ploujwols_: does that apply to the http backend as well?07:45
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PrettoCrippsFX: i have wine service running.. do you think that it could be my service or just wine?07:45
CrippsFXMetaMorfoziS, what steps have you gone through in trying to get it working?07:45
[BTF] Chm0d!multimedia07:45
ubotuFor multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications07:45
MetaMorfoziSCrippsFX:  i have installed irdautils, and first time it worked07:46
MetaMorfoziSthe obexftp -l07:46
MetaMorfoziSlisted my phone's directory07:46
MetaMorfoziSbut after a while, it goes wrong, and i can't restore it07:46
CrippsFXPretto, is there any other details listed with it?07:46
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CrippsFXMetaMorfoziS, "goes wrong" ?07:46
MetaMorfoziSyes07:46
PrettoCrippsFX:  2813 pts/2    R+     0:00 grep wine07:46
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MetaMorfoziSafter a while it stopped working07:47
mpechre07:47
mpechhelp07:47
MetaMorfoziSand only said can't conenct07:47
MetaMorfoziSi'm after some reboots07:47
mpechwhat should i do to change MAC address ?!07:47
mpechi have this:07:47
CrippsFXPretto, nope .... that's just grep running.07:47
MetaMorfoziSand it never worked after that07:47
mpechauto lo07:47
mpechiface lo inet loopback07:47
mpechauto eth007:47
mpechhwaddress ether 00:co:9f:04:fc:8607:47
mpechiface eth0 inet dhcp07:47
CrippsFX!pastebin > mpech07:47
mpechit doesn't work :/07:47
[BTF] Chm0dhey guys how are you doing.  I just wanted to know what is the preferred app to view video content?07:47
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wols_mpech: do NOT paste in here07:47
wols_!paster07:47
wols_!paste07:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about paster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:47
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:47
Pretto:S07:48
MetaMorfoziSnowhere an irda installing how-to?07:48
mpechoops07:48
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wols_mpech: and your hwaddress is at the wrong place. must be belive "iface eth0"07:48
lin0mako: are you coming to the 4th world forum on free knowledge?07:48
aLPHa_LeaK 'lo07:48
CrippsFXMetaMorfoziS, hm. to tell you the truth, I'm not sure what the problem is. Have you searched google for info on your dongle type ?07:48
DutchR_PWdoes anybody know a way to send keyboard events in python? I've written a lightweight driver for my soundcard remote and now I need a way to emulate keypresses.07:48
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Prettoso CrippsFX, seems that i cant do it huh?07:48
fyrestrtrDutchR_PW: #python will know07:49
DutchR_PWthanks07:49
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mpechwols: 10x07:49
CrippsFXPretto, semms ... you could try running it from a terminal using the '&' char at the end to be a bg process ... then you should be able to catch its PID if/when it exits07:49
mpechtring07:49
mpechi will come back07:49
DutchR_PWthen I have another question: If I finish this driver, how can I propose it for Ubuntu inclusion?07:49
CrippsFXPretto, just because you don't get it the first time doesn't mean you can't do it ... just means it's more difficult than you thought :P07:50
Prettook.. CrippsFX, i will try, anyway, thanks for the help07:50
CrippsFXPretto, you're welcome.07:50
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wols_DutchR_PW: by packaging it as a .deb and becoming a Ubuntu dev07:50
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[BTF] Chm0ddoes anyone have a preferrable media app they like?07:51
wols_!media07:51
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs07:51
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Soekisanhi, how can i install the acer aspire 3000 modem on ubuntu?07:51
[BTF] Chm0dim goin to find out how to get the codecs and stuff and just wanted some input on the best player07:51
phiqtionhow can i extract the files inside a TAR archive?07:51
Soekisanseem like the only thing missing.07:51
fyrestrtr!MOTU > DutchR_PW07:51
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CrippsFXphiqtion, man tar07:51
pty[BTF] Chm0d: what media do you have in mind?  just music or something for everything?07:51
UstasWhey07:52
silent_screamhi! which x11 is ubuntu using? 3.x ? 4.x ?07:52
jribphiqtion: double click on it07:52
Thurynyo07:52
ziro01hello07:52
Demon5Hi07:52
UstasWout of interest07:52
Thurynok07:52
Demon5I'll find out07:52
Lunar_Lamp!x1107:52
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:52
DutchR_PWfyrestrtr: thanks07:52
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fyrestrtrsilent_scream: 707:52
wols_silent_scream: X 7.007:52
[BTF] Chm0di would like to play divx files and mpg, dvd and others07:52
phiqtionjrib: i use emelfm file explorer, can i do this on the terminal?07:52
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wols_silent_scream: no one uses XFree86 anymore07:52
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fyrestrtr!codecs > [BTF] Chm0d07:52
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jribphiqtion: yes, tar xvf file.tar07:52
pty[BTF] Chm0d: I tend to use VLC for video and Quod Libet for music07:52
Soekisanyeah and xfree is a pain in the ass for some ati cards07:52
k1pieeHello07:53
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robert_dpkg-deb: parse error, in file `php4-4.4.2/DEBIAN/control' near line 9: missing package name <-- wtf07:53
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excitatorydoes anyone know where i could get a aotuv oggenc binary for ubuntu?  i can't find a working one anywhere, and i'm having much difficulty compiling one.  (i have a strong working knowledge of compilation, so it's most likely not the reason i can't compile)07:53
phiqtionjrib: what about the other files inside it? file.000 file.001, etc.?07:53
silent_screamso there isn't a XF86Config file ?07:53
ziro01don't know07:53
[BTF] Chm0dvlc available through the repositories07:53
fyrestrtrrobert_: you get then when you do what?07:53
CrippsFXsilent_scream, no, but there is an xorg.conf07:53
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robert_fyrestrtr: trying to build php4-fcgi07:53
wols_silent_scream: no. and you should not edit the file by hand if there were one anyways07:53
jribphiqtion: all files isnide file.tar will be extracted07:53
fyrestrtrrobert_: ubuntu debs?07:53
wols_sudo dpkt-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:54
lupine_85wha?07:54
phiqtionokay07:54
lupine_85what's wrong with manually editing xorg.conf ?07:54
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robert_fyrestrtr: from the deb source "package"07:54
CrippsFXwols_, what's wrong with editing xorg.conf by had?07:54
d1zZy_moin07:54
hondjeIf you know what your'e doing, it's way easier07:54
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d1zZy_mal ne doofe frage ;)07:54
CrippsFXhondje, I concur07:54
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OnbirHey all. After some good customizing, my Ubuntu got kind of slow. Any way to clean up cashes and RAM and stuff? also.. I think I found a good color for the next Ubuntu release... Green (I'm banned at #ubuntu-offtopic :O)07:55
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Boson_over 1000 ppl and there are not opers here?07:55
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hondjeBoson_: Freenode policy is for ops to remain unopped unless needed.07:56
lupine_85if you want ops, tel lthe bot to find them07:56
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robert_fyrestrtr: so, anything? heh07:56
Boson_okz, :P07:56
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J-_!nvidia07:57
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:57
Boson_hy ubuntu selected this server to open the "official channel" ?07:57
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Boson_why ubuntu selected this server to open the "official channel" ?07:57
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Descentiondoes anyone know how i should go about installing nvidia drivers in ubuntu 6.06?07:57
mpechwhre to read about /etc/network/interfaces ?07:57
wols_mpech: man interfaces07:57
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Liamanyone know the name of that program that installs loads of programs for u automatic07:57
Liam?07:57
erUSULmpech: man interfaces to begin with07:57
inlanderfhow do i install a gui on my server 607:57
mpech10x07:58
b1_xtwhat should i do to switch my codepage in telnet to koi8-r?07:58
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Boson_is there any network expert? i need to post a question about anonymity on the net,07:58
OnbirHey all. After some good customizing, my Ubuntu got kind of slow. Any way to clean up cashes and RAM and stuff? also.. I think I found a good color for the next Ubuntu release... Green (I'm banned at #ubuntu-offtopic :O)07:58
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DutchR_PWLaim: EasyUbuntu and Automatix, but I heard they cause problems occasionally07:58
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CrippsFXokay ... so my bcm4318 card is working through ndiswrapper (native driver is knackered right now), and I get results when I do "iwlist eth1 scanning" ... I try to connect to my ap using dhclient ("dhclient eth1") ... but, I don't get a lease ... it tries to get one on several intervals, and ends with "no working leases found" ... I KNOW there are more DHCP leases available on my router.07:58
lupine_85s/occasionally/frequent;y/07:58
DutchR_PWinlanderf: You can install webmin for a website administration page07:59
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rdzCrippsFX, thanks for your hints. dualhead works already here, only when setting the 'option  "Xinerama"' i get messed up screen. without xinerama i cannot move the windows from one monitor to the other.07:59
inlanderfhow do i install a gui on my server 6 from a ubuntu 6 cd07:59
erUSULDutchR_PW: dapper does not have webmin07:59
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mpechubuntu 6.06 hangs07:59
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mpechthinkpad X2207:59
mpechwhy ?07:59
mpechdisable what? :)07:59
erUSULinlanderf: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop07:59
we2byguys, how do I install firefox 2 beta??07:59
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davinHi guys, I have a USB Harddisk that currently holds 1 NTFS Partition, I want to format it as Fat32, how do I go about doing this? (im on the live cd)07:59
Boson_why ubuntu devolopers selected this server to open the "official channel" ?07:59
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hondje'hangs' is vauge mpech07:59
DutchR_PWd'oh.. I was confused with my debian server (system is too old to run ubuntu)07:59
CrippsFXrdz, hm ... I had no problems with moving windows between monitors ... but I'm using a laptop and an LCD panel ... I don't know if it makes a difference.08:00
erUSUL!enter > mpech08:00
inlanderfwill that command install from my cd08:00
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davinIt's /dev/sdb/08:00
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rdzCrippsFX, sorry, but i couldn't figure out how the 'aticommand' could help. ' aticonfig --initial dualhead -o xorg.examplefile ' just says:Found fglrx primary device section08:00
rdzNothing to do, terminating.08:00
rdz08:00
we2byguys, how do I install firefox 2 beta??08:00
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mpecheven caps lock doesn't work then08:00
jeeves_Mossall:  can some one help me with a small issues concerning my local?08:00
erUSUL!firefox08:01
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins08:01
erUSULjeeves_Moss: ask away08:01
rdzCrippsFX, same situation here. i am also on a laptop and have an external lcd-monitor08:01
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CrazedBLEH08:01
kitchedavin: just do mk2fs.msdos /dev/sdb1 since /dev/sdb is the whole device you have to tell mke2fs the partition to format08:01
Crazedmessed up shit08:01
TuxthePenguin84!ati08:01
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:01
CrippsFXrdz, I used "aticonfig --dtop=horizontal --overlay-on=108:01
inlanderferUSUL  will that command install from my cd08:01
CrippsFXbrb.08:01
rdzCrippsFX, can you possibly pastebin me your xorg.conf?08:01
rdzCrippsFX, many thanks. i'll try08:01
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kitchedavin: but you can do man mke2fs to make sure I got the mke2fs part right08:02
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F_roZeNI hate adobe, why not flash player for 64bits08:02
jeeves_MosserUSUL:  ok, the error is as follows "perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:"08:02
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fredzerhi08:02
fredzeris there a way to stream music from my network SMB server to my ubuntu ?08:02
OnbirWow i love ubuntu now i really started using it!08:02
Onbir^_^08:02
davinkitche: ok hang on08:02
ma1So, how ready is edgy?08:02
lostboyzhi i was wondering why my dvds no longer play they were playing before when i launched kaffeine but now they do not at all08:02
wols_fredzer: why stream? just mount the network share08:03
jeeves_Mossmal:  ask the guys in #ubuntu+108:03
lostboyzit says cannot open /dev/dvd08:03
fredzerhm..08:03
fredzerill try it08:03
lostboyzand also cannot find plugin08:03
jeeves_MosserUSUL: any ideas?08:03
wols_lostboyz: /dev/dvd should point to your dvd drive08:03
OnbirHey. How to get unbanned in #ubuntu-offtopic?08:03
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lostboyzwols_ yes i know08:03
erUSULjeeves_Moss: perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: anything more??08:04
erUSUL!locales > jeeves_Moss08:04
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wols_lostboyz: lsof |grep /dev/dvd to see what uses it08:04
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lostboyzdoesn't say anything08:04
lostboyzwols_08:04
OnbirBecause.. I was banned some time ago, at #ubuntu-offtopic :P. It was because of a strange reason I don't remember, but... it wasn't that bad. Any ops who are here right now.. Can you consider unbanning me in #ubuntu-offtopic? Thanks.08:04
davinkitche: doesnt work :/08:05
wols_then check the /dev/hd* one08:05
davinAnybody know the mke2fs syntax for fat32?08:05
lostboyzi started the computer with the dvd inside would that do something?08:05
jeeves_MosserUSUL:  join #jeeves and we'll talk08:05
lostboyzgrep: /dev/hdd: Input/output error08:05
lostboyzthe dvd drive started08:05
lostboyzbut did not run08:05
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rdzCrippsFX, i used the xorg.conf-file from the command you posted. it seems that i have dualscreen now, but i cannot move the mouse outside the first screen.08:06
rdzCrippsFX, your second monitor is on the right, right?08:06
kitchedavin: ok it's mkdosfs08:06
davinkitche: yes I just read here mke2fs is for ext2/308:06
lostboyzwols_08:06
jeeves_MosserUSUL:  did you join #jeeves?08:06
lostboyzdid you see that08:06
rdzCrippsFX, also the background of the second screen has a different color than the first one08:06
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wols_lostboyz: yes. I guess it's the codec then08:07
davinkitche: working now, thanks alot!!08:07
lostboyzoh08:07
lostboyzbut how is it08:07
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wols_!dvd08:07
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages08:07
kitchedavin: I couldn't remember the command sicne I don't do vfat formating very often but it's always good to look it up08:07
lostboyzthat it works one day and the next it don't work anymore08:07
carlesHi all08:07
carlescan someone helpme?08:07
wols_lostboyz: dying DVD ROM then08:08
carlesi have problems with my wireless08:08
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ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:08
wols_lostboyz: the I/O error would fit that problem08:08
davinkitche: yes im switching to linux but im backing up my music so first I have to make my usb hdd f3208:08
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davinvfat = fat32?08:09
wols_more or less08:09
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kitchedavin: I understand, by the way vfat is fat pretty much08:09
davinokay, gonna boot in windows now and back up, thanks everyone!08:09
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lostboyzok08:09
lostboyzwols_ what is that exactly?08:09
rdz!xinerama08:09
ubotuxinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo08:09
wols_lostboyz: what "that"08:09
lostboyzdying dvd rom and i/o error08:10
lostboyzwhat do you mean08:10
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lostboyzi am not good too much with tinkering08:10
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wols_lostboyz: your DVD ROM is almost broken. dead. kaput08:10
lostboyzoh08:10
lostboyzi see08:10
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nahojwhen I start the computer in "rescue mode" I end up in console logged in as root. Is this not a security risc?08:10
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Crazedzzz08:10
Crazedhate ubuntu whine shit :@08:10
jribnahoj: no, anyone with physical access can easily get root access08:11
erUSUL!locales > jeeves_Moss08:11
wols_nahoj: "physical access trumps anything"08:11
wols_so not it's not08:11
kitchenahoj: rescue mode will put you in as root08:11
Soekisanput it in a server bunker08:11
lampshadeyeah basically any live cd will let you get in as root08:11
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nahojwell, It should be kind of safe if I put a password on BIOS instead?08:11
wols_nahoj: you are kidding, right?08:12
DutchR_PWno08:12
Juhaznot really, they could just snatch the hard drive08:12
jribnahoj: you can set a root password if you are really bothered by it08:12
Soekisanlol08:12
whymedoes anyone know what the app is that ubuntu uses to translate the acpi events from laptop function keys to 'real' key presses?08:12
lampshadeI don't see why people bother with that though, it seems like such a given you know?  Like if you have access to top secret papers, same problem.  It just seems so defacto standard that I don't understand why people even talk about it lol08:12
Soekisanits not so hard to reset the bios anyways08:12
DutchR_PWIf you have something you want to keep secret, you should encrypt it08:12
DutchR_PWthat's the only way it's safe08:13
kitchenot hard to find out the bios master password either08:13
lupine_85computers aren't safe, period08:13
TuxthePenguin84or reset the bios password08:13
lupine_85if you want safety, get an underground bunker08:13
TheGateKeeperlol08:13
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nahojkitche, well, no but I guess it would be safe enough for my non-hacker-flat-mates?08:13
lupine_85nahoj: if my idiot stoned brother can work it out, your stoned flat mates can ;)08:14
nahojjust don't wan't them touching my laptop... :P08:14
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zmuttewhy not encrypt your harddrive?08:14
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jribhe could put the laptop ina  safe08:14
Crazedpffffffffff08:14
lupine_85slows down teh pr0nz!!!08:14
zmutte:>08:14
Crazedannoying .dmrc permission crap error!!!08:14
zmuttelupine_85: he just have to wank slower then08:14
zmutte:>08:14
lupine_85lol08:15
lupine_85but then his mum might catch him...08:15
kitcheCrazed: that's an easy fix really08:15
lupine_85sorry nahoj, couldn't resist08:15
Crazedyea right set owner permissions right ?08:15
Crazedor change gdm.conf08:15
CrazedNONE working08:15
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lupine_85take the laptop with you?08:15
kitcheCrazed: yep well what's the settings on right now think it should be 644 or so08:15
nahojzmutte, It's not really like I have something secret or so, It's just that I don't want them to be able to log in to it and use it when I am not there...08:16
Crazedyes BUT NOT working08:16
nahojso encryption sounds like overkill08:16
lupine_85644 = rw-r-r IIRC08:16
lupine_85nahoj: you can set a grub password08:16
lupine_85might be enough08:16
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jribnahoj: set the bios password, unless you think they would open up your computer to reset it08:16
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lanjelothi all! what's the command to create an empty file giving it proper ownerships and permissions ?08:16
TheGateKeepernahoj: do they use windows or linux?08:16
lupine_85touch08:16
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jriblanjelot: define "proper"08:17
lupine_85as in touch/home/me/stuff08:17
Crazedkitche: that is not working ..08:17
Crazedalready tried that ..08:17
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nahojlinux... , TheGateKeeper08:17
rockzmanCan someone help me to setup a local nameserver? (resolv.conf)08:17
wols_nahoj: encryption then08:17
meryambegc245@hotmail.com08:17
wols_ / AND swap08:17
lanjelotjrib: i'm sorry ?08:17
kitcherockzman: do you mean a server or just set settings in resolv.conf08:18
lupine_85rockzman: as in set up a DNS nameserver on your PC?08:18
lanjelotlupine_85: you can't set mode using touch08:18
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lupine_85apt-get install bind9 works08:18
lupine_85!bind908:18
ubotubind9: Internet Domain Name Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:9.3.2-2ubuntu1.1 (dapper), package size 282 kB, installed size 700 kB08:18
wols_rockzman: do you mean you want to run your own nameserver or set up resolv.conf properly?08:18
Crazedit's also whining about dcop server error08:18
jriblanjelot: what do you mean by "proper permissions and ownership"?08:18
DethklokIs it possable to login using XDMCP over the internet?08:18
lupine_85acts as a caching nameserver08:18
TheGateKeepernahoj: I guess then you will probable have to encrypt as they may know how chroot08:18
lupine_85...by default08:18
kyjacool !! I am remastering my own custom build of ubuntu =] 08:18
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lostboyz_hi i was wondering if there is a way to make a seperate partition your home when you are installing ubuntu08:19
rockzmanwols_ both, i cant run a localnameserver without running resolv.conf properly08:19
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lupine_85lostboyz_: yep08:19
lupine_85choose option 308:19
nahojhmm.. sounds like a bios-password will have to do until I have learned some more about encryption, thx08:19
Dethkloklostboyz: you can manually edit the partitions08:19
lostboyz_oh08:19
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lostboyz_yes i went through about hour and a half08:19
lupine_85rockzman: install bind9 then add "nameserver 127.0.0.1" to resolv.conf08:19
lupine_85et voila!08:19
lostboyz_of tinkering with my friend dooglus08:19
lostboyz_but i think i saved some of the config files still from suse08:20
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Crazedwell kitche it was that easy you said .. any other solutions ?08:20
wols_rockzman: not strictly true. dnsmasq and /etc/hosts. no resolv.conf entry needed08:20
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lostboyz_because now my fstab is screwed up and my desktop is similar to suse desktop was08:20
lupine_85bah, dnsmasq--08:20
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lostboyz_lupine_85 would you be able to help?08:20
Dethklokanyone know what port XCMCP uses?08:20
wols_lupine_85: anything wrong with dnsmasq?08:21
lanjelotjrib: i just want to touch a file with ownership 'mldonkey' and mode '660' is there a way to do this with only one command08:21
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rdzCrippsFX, if you are still here: can you post me somewhere your xorg.conf? i cannot manage to create or find one, that works here.....08:21
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silent_screamhow do i unrar a file that is separeted in many .rar pieces08:21
wols_lanjelot: write a script08:21
AstrayIs it possible to search with apt via terminal?08:21
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J-_how cna i find out what kernel i have?08:21
lupine_85lostboyz_: just move out everything in /home and add an fstab entry to turn it into a mountpoint, if you already have a partition08:21
rockzmanlupine_85 ok thanks08:21
Seveassilent_scream, unrar x first_filename_of_set_hete08:21
wols_Astray: apt-cache search08:21
Seveashere*08:21
kitchesilent_scream: unrar one file it should do the others08:21
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wols_J-_: uname -a08:21
DutchR_PWlanjelot: touch file && chown mldonkey file && chmod 660 file08:21
jriblanjelot: not really, just do: touch foo && chmod 660 foo && chown mldonkey foo08:22
DutchR_PWyou might have to add sudo's08:22
J-_thanks wols_08:22
Astraywols_, Thanks.08:22
lupine_85wols_: for a caching nameserver, it's overpowered. If you want to run your own domains, it's not got enough features08:22
lostboyz_lupine_85 yeah i did that already08:22
rdzAstray, 'apt-cache search somename'08:22
lupine_85then you've got what you asked for08:22
rstancahello, i have a small ubuntu dapper server install, my problem is with midnight commanger wich looks ugly, UTF problem, any tips on how can i fix that?08:22
wols_lupine_85: and bind9 is not overpowered for a caching domainserver?08:22
wols_lupine_85: and for local DNS only, dnsmasq is fine08:22
lupine_85wols_: maybe a bit ;)08:22
lupine_85but I prefer bind08:22
lostboyz_when i put a disc in my dvdrecorder08:23
Crazedlol kitche now ignoring my question ? :)08:23
lostboyz_the system hangs08:23
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lostboyz_and there is no entry in fstab08:23
lanjelotthx jrib DutchR_PW wols_ i just thought i could do it using install(1)08:23
wols_bind is one of the 3 Evils: bind, wu-ftpd and sendmail :)08:23
lostboyz_is there a howto on fstab somewhere?08:23
botxjwelcome to the Battlestar Galactia Linux Forum08:23
TheGateKeeperJ-_: cat /proc/version08:23
POVaddctlostboyz_: man 5 fstab08:23
wols_lostboyz_: man fstab08:23
lupine_85snap ;)08:23
kitcheCrazed what question it probably has to do with permissions some fiels have to be setup to 600 others have to be set to 0644 others have to be some other permission08:23
lostboyz_what do you call a fly flying around in a blondes head?08:24
lostboyz_Space Invader08:24
rockzmanwols_ dnsmasq would work fine for me ? i just want to put my own machine as dns for another08:24
Crazedwell like I said I told gdm not to check for permissions08:24
Crazedall permissions are allowed08:24
Crazedstill not working08:24
Seveaslostboyz_, please stay on topic here08:24
silent_screamwhat is the command to unrar the first Seveas08:24
silent_scream?08:24
lostboyz_oh sure08:24
Seveassilent_scream, unrar x filename_here08:24
kitcheCrazed: what si the file name again?08:25
lupine_85rockzman: if you want to serve domains, bind is definitely your best bet08:25
Crazed.dmrc08:25
CrazedI already found something on ubuntu forums08:25
wols_rockzman: yes imho08:25
Crazedbut everything I try doesnt work08:25
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rockzmanlupine_85 nah i just want to make my server ip as dns for my clients08:25
wols_rockzman: it's also a dhcp server if you want it to be08:25
kitcheCrazed: ok you can cp .dmrc .dmrc.bak then delete .dnrc tos ee if it will work then08:25
lupine_85ah, ok08:25
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lupine_85ignore me then ;)08:25
lupine_85either will do what you want08:26
Crazedwill try that later ..08:26
Crazeddon't got time now ;)08:26
rockzmanlupine_85 hehe so i hear the wols08:26
rockzman:P08:26
SeveasCrazed, if many things complain about permissions, you probably made your homedirworld writable oslt08:26
silent_screamseveas thanks08:26
Crazeddidnt change anything like that Seveas ..08:26
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wols_lanjelot: install only copies. it doesn't create a file08:28
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A-L-P-H-Ahow does one get library packages?  I'm missing 4 to compile xchat-gnome 0.13.  "libglade-2.0" "gnome-vfs-2.0" "libgnomeui-2.0" and "gconf-2.0".08:28
OnbirHow to get deskbar with beagle support?08:28
wols_apt-get build-dep08:28
wols_aLPHa_LeaK: : apt-get build-dep08:28
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A-L-P-H-Awols_: thanks08:28
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SeveasA-L-P-H-A, you need the -dev packages of those libraries, /msg ubotu compiling08:28
wols_aLPHa_LeaK: and to compile you usually need the dev packages08:28
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aLPHa_LeaKwols_: stop highlighting me please, thank you.08:29
rstancahello, i have a small ubuntu dapper server install, my problem is with midnight commanger wich looks ugly, UTF problem, any tips on how can i fix that? also how can i add more locales, i only have en_US.UTF-808:29
Caplainwhen i go to play a dvd it plays the mgm intro and then errors out saying the source cannot be read08:29
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wols_!locales > rstanca08:29
rockzmanwols_ Starting DNS forwarder and DHCP server: dnsmasqdnsmasq: failed to bind listening socket: Address already in use08:30
rockzman (failed).08:30
wols_!dvd > caplain08:30
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wols_rockzman: you already run a dns server08:30
rockzmanwols_ well why ppl dont resolv addresses using my server ip as dns then08:30
wols_and port 53/udp is already in use08:30
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wols_rockzman: misconfig perhaps?08:30
rockzmanwols_08:30
walkoverhey im trying to install xgl and it seems that gdm is not able to launch my xgl startup script. I have chmod +x 'ed on it and even chmod 777 to be sure. Does anyone know what is going on?08:30
wols_rockzman: look what's running08:30
rockzmana min08:31
rockzmanyea08:31
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walkoverby the way i have checked my path and it is absolutely correct08:31
erUSULwalkover: #ubunt-glx may be of more help08:31
walkoverthanks08:31
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J-_I just tried to install my graphics driver bu following the tutorial(!nvidia) how that x  won't start up, I don't know what to do08:31
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antares79hi everyone08:32
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antares79what's with lilo?08:32
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rdemanow!samba08:32
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT08:32
wols_antares79: lilo the person is dead. traffic hit and run08:33
antares79oh :-(08:33
DutchR_PWI have to go, so bye everyone08:33
antares79bye08:33
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lostboyz_what is a good book to get started learing ubuntu and how to use it?08:33
Astraylostboyz_, Best Ubuntu book ever, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/08:34
sofusheeh08:34
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wols_lostboyz_: I wouldn't get a distro specific book. waste of time and money. instead learn the general linux ways08:34
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antares79lostboyz: it's not about ubuntu, but i'm pretty fond of the "The Debian system - concepts and techniques"08:35
Descentionhello, i am having problems enabling nvidia drivers on ubuntu 6.0608:35
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antares79this is the homepage: http://debiansystem.info/08:36
Boson_drivers allways the same problem, on windows its just doble click, and restar the computer.08:36
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Descentionif i edit the xorg.conf device driver setting from "nv" to "nvidia" i get an error loading X1108:36
lostboyz_anyone know how to open a .chm document?08:36
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swimhello08:37
antares79descention: what's the error message?08:37
[A] ndy80Hi08:37
swimI cannot get my floppy drive to be read.08:37
swimCould anyone help?08:37
Descentionsomething about it not being able to load nvidia-glx08:37
[A] ndy80I got a problem with my gnome session: windows decoration disappeared :( Ho can I restore them? I try ti execute gnome-window-decorator but no success...08:37
antares79is nvidia-glx installed?08:37
Descentionyes08:38
Boson_lets say i connecto thru a external Open AP with spoofed mac, and i made an attack, the attack takes about 30 min, but they will not notice the attake after days... the question: Can i be caught? if reponse is YES, tell how. thnks08:38
infinitodoes anyone here know how to change the gnome-keyring password??08:38
stadtfilterany clue where to look if mount claims that a partiton is mounted when I try to mount it, but it does not show where it is mounted?08:38
aeroSoul[A] ndy80: try running "metacity"08:38
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antares79descention: can you paste the error message anywhere? there's a link to a pastebin in the topic08:39
aeroSoulin a shell or something08:39
variantstadtfilter: type mount on its own, it will tell you what is mounted where08:39
[A] ndy80aeroSoul: cool! that fixed my problem! I hope the session will be saved :)08:39
stadtfiltervariant, that's the joke, it does not show hda308:39
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variantstadtfilter: cat /etc/mtab08:40
Descentionwould the error be in any log?08:40
antares79stadtfilter: run 'cat /proc/mounts'08:40
wols_Boson_: is this open AP near your flat?08:40
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J-_I just tried to install my graphics driver using ubuntu's tutorial, now x11  won't start up, I don't know what to do. any help would be appreciative.08:40
antares79descention: /var/log/X.org.0.log probably08:40
Boson_[wols_]  no, not near,08:40
antares79or something along those lines anyway ;-)08:40
wols_J-_: look in your X.logs in /var/log/08:40
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stadtfiltervariant, antares79, both nope. Maybe this does matte, I also do run a raid1 with mdadm and I ant to add hda3 to the raid but it fails, but imho this should not matter?08:41
antares79ah... is it a swap partition, maybe? what does swapon -s show?08:42
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chillmod1hi everyone.. someone who know how to insert a theme folder into the usr/shere/them foldedr?08:42
antares79that's what I ran into... took me ages ;-)08:42
chillmod1it says that i dont have promision08:42
antares79oh, right... run 'sudo swapon -s'08:42
stadtfilterantares, nah, it's ext3, hda/hdb5 are the swaps08:43
kitchechillmod1: sudo cp -r <theme folder> /usr/share/theme08:43
J-_wols_: i cd /var/log/ now what do i do to look at the logs08:43
chillmod1thanx u are the best08:43
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wols_J-_: less Xorg.log08:43
wols_J-_: or just the newest Xorg log08:43
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rockzmanwols_ ** server can't find uol.com.br: REFUSED08:45
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J-_wols_: what do i input to see the log? i cd's to teh folder, i don't know what to do next.08:45
LuxuriousHiya.  I need to inventory my system, see information about all my hardware.  How do I do that from the command line?08:45
J-_cd'd*08:45
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antares79stadtfilter: so I got it right, you're trying to add a partition to a raid 1, but you can't because it says it's already mounted?08:45
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DigitalNinjaIs there an easy way to do software RAID?08:46
rockzmanwols_ even installing dnsmasq i cant resolve address08:46
stadtfilterantares79, well, mdadm says something else (can not claim bd_claim hda3), for testing I tried to mount hda3 somewhere and the it says it is already mounted08:46
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antares79ah, alright...08:46
antares79how did you setup the other raid sets?08:46
DigitalNinjaAre we all doing RAID today?08:47
antares79at least i do, digitalninja08:47
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DigitalNinjanice08:48
stadtfilterantares79, mh what of info would you like? I got a /boot, which are both now on md0. hdb3 is now in md1, now also hda3 should go there08:48
stadtfilterboot is on hda/hdb108:48
J-_Now i know why i didn't install the nvidia driver a while ago. Can't seem to get x11 to work, and when i ask for help. Do i get it, no. How can Ubuntu be successful if the support isn't there?08:48
DigitalNinjaWill the Ubuntu installer let you do software RAID?08:48
swimI cannot get my floppy drive to be read.08:49
swimCould anyone help?08:49
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wols_rockzman: what dns server do your clients use?08:49
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hummigbird1Hello08:49
antares79hmm... stadtfilter: i can't say for sure, but i've had some problems with evms doing funny stuff... can you disable it, reboot and try again?08:49
hummigbird1Can anyone give me a helping hand with installing Ubuntu/Kubuntu ?08:49
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wols_rockzman: and what is in your /etc/resolv.conf? (your ISPs DNS server?)08:49
antares79digitalninja: the alternate cd installer will let you do it08:49
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krupshummingbird1: what do you need?  should just be pop cd in and go.08:50
hummigbird1I would like to install it on a Biblo b142 Subnotebook08:50
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DigitalNinjaantares79: I tried that once and it didn't work08:50
hummigbird1It can not boot from CD08:50
hummigbird1It only has a Floppy and an external USB CD08:50
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krupscan't boot from external cd?08:50
hummigbird1nope08:51
xMorphixHey all08:51
krupspositive?08:51
Descentionmy nvidia log is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2489808:51
kitchenHow does storage work on ubuntu? fstab doesn't seem to contain anything. I've just changed HDDs and can't figure how to change all the HDD paths...08:51
Lunar_Lampa while back i changed themes in kcontrol, despite running gnome, now i can't get amarok to stop looking so ugly.  The colours for the list have taken on the theme, and i can't find whatever the default theme was in kcontrol :-s08:51
hummigbird1Absolutely positive08:51
antares79well, you really need to know what you're doing, when you set that up, digitalninja...08:51
stadtfilterantares, mh, no evms running here08:51
Descentioner, X11 log08:51
DigitalNinjaantares79: Well, I can do it on centOS08:51
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stadtfilterdamn so strange08:51
antares79stadtfilter, it's usually started at boot, but no processes show up08:52
antares79descention: i'll take a look08:52
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DigitalNinjaantares79: I ran into some documentation that said the debian installer couldn't do software raid. There is a way to do it but I don't remember what that is08:52
Descentionantares79: thank you08:52
stadtfilterantares79, okay... just had another idea but lost it again, too much people running arround and asking stuff, need some meditation...08:52
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antares79;-) stadtfilter08:53
krupshummingbird1: you setup the bios to try usb first?08:53
hummigbird1Yes08:53
antares79descention: alright, it says it can't load the kernel module. do you have the linux-restricted-modules package installed?08:53
hummigbird1There is no Option in the BIOS08:53
hummigbird1Its a very old Subenotebook08:53
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Yaakovkitchen!08:54
Lunar_Lamphow do i reduce the font size of text in the playlist in amarok?08:54
krupshummingbird1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto08:54
Descentionantares79: i dont know... if it's the "nvidia-kernel-common" then yes, but otherwise no08:55
Yaakovkitchen: My fstab is full of pathy goodness.08:55
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_Sasuhi all :) i have this strange problem: i installed xgl and after the reboot i can't change my refresh rate...i really need to change it otherwise i can't see all my desktop :(08:55
Descentionwait, yes08:55
kitchenYaakoov: strange, mine only has 2 lines. perhaps it gets populated on boot ?08:55
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whatsrealxMorphix:08:55
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Yaakovkitchen: So it would seem...08:55
eugmanI need to run a occasianally cpu intesive program without it being able to lock up the computer.08:55
hummigbird1Hmmm ... I have used a SmartBootManager08:56
Descentionantares79: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-38608:56
mpechi did it08:56
hummigbird1But I will try the latest one to make sure#08:56
kitchenYaakov: Any idea what I have to change to get it to populate differently?08:56
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Yaakovkitchen: I am very new to *ubuntu, so sadly no.08:56
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_Sasuanyone? :P08:56
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antares79thanks, descention... is there anything about the nvidia module in the output of 'dmesg'?08:57
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kitchenYaakov: ok, thx, anyone else any ideas how fstab gets populated on boot?08:57
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aeroSouleugman: try cpulimit08:57
kinectionHello, I'm having a problem with my xorg, it's saying that ati and radeon drivers are not found... but sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-ati is "newest version"08:57
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kinectionwhat's going on?08:57
kinectioni can't get into my X server right now08:57
eugmanAeroSoul, ok I'll give it a look. Do you know what changing the nice level would do?08:58
thenetduckI can't write or make forlders on my internal hard drive... how can I make it able to let me write stuff on my hard drive??08:58
Descentionantares79: in my xorg.conf file? no08:58
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Yaakovkitchen: You know, I went with the default partitioning.  Perhaps you have to rebuild fstab after the device is gone.08:58
krupshummingbird1: only other option that comes to mind is you can take the laptop hd out and put it in another machine with a hd and install there.  might need appropriate cable to plugin the hd though.08:58
antares79descention: no, try running "dmesg" in a console window08:58
Yaakovkitchen: That is, it could have made this for me.08:58
Descentionok08:58
Yaakovkitchen: And by rebuild, I mean edit it yourself.08:58
t0taln00bis ur hard drive ntfs?08:58
hummigbird1@Krups: The CD Drive does not appear :(08:58
aeroSouleugman: nice could help, too08:59
Justy-Hello all!08:59
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aeroSouleugman: with cpulimit you can limit how much % of cpu a prog/pid may use08:59
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botxjHEY! EXCUSE ME HERE! I"M TALKING TO YOUZ GUYZ, are the compiz directories fixed now?08:59
ladydoor!caps08:59
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.08:59
kitchenYaakov: I don't have a problem with manually editing, but there's obviously something else adding to it on boot; need to know what that is..08:59
botxjno y'all cant read lower case08:59
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eugmanAeroSoul, man and synaptic don't seem to know of cpulimit. Is that the exact name?08:59
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ladydoorbotxj: then it's hopeless--we're just to stupid to help. 'bye09:00
eugmanor is that a change made by adifferent program?09:00
aeroSoulhmm i wonder where i got it from.. forgot... seems to be missing in dapper09:00
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hummigbird1Anyone knows how I can make SmartBootManager recognise my external USB CD Drive ?09:00
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Yaakovladydoor: You seem very helpy... do you have a clue about kitchen's fstab issue?09:00
_hyperionhi! I use gnuchess but it eats all of my CPU. Is there any way to solve this?09:00
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Descentionantares79: it's too long for me to read everything it spits out09:00
TheGateKeeperYaakov: kitchen fstab gets created when you first install the software, from that point it will only change if you change it09:00
botxjare the compiz directories fixed now?09:00
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swimplease09:01
wols__hyperion: man renice09:01
swimI cannot get my floppy drive to be read.09:01
swimCould anyone help?09:01
antares79descention: it will probably be at the end of it all anyway... maximize your console window09:01
_hyperion-wols_-, what's renice?09:01
wols_swim: are you mounting the floppy?09:01
ladydoorkitchen: so wait...does your fstab keep growing, or is the problem that it's only got the two lines?09:01
aeroSouleugman: http://marlon80.interfree.it/cpulimit/ download and compile... it wont do any damage...09:01
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wols__hyperion: man renice09:01
alpha-lappyanyone know why when i go 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop' it would pop into a terminal, and stop at "Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) [ok] " and just stop?09:01
ladydoorYaakov: i'll do my best09:01
thenetduckcan somone help me be able to access my internal slave driver????09:01
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Yaakovladydoor: Who could ask more?09:01
aeroSouleugman: compile and copy the cpulimit file to /usr/bin or something...09:01
swimwols_: no because it is not in fstab09:02
mpechwhy geeting window coredumps in boot09:02
kitchenTheGateKeeper: I switched HDDs, so I rebooted into the live environment, copied my system accross in its entirety (including fstab), went to modify fstab, assuming I would need to adjust paths etc. due to the new HDD layout, but found it only had a couple of lines in it...09:02
whatsrealswim: you can only access hardware as root this may be key09:02
mpech6.0609:02
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Yaakovladydoor: On second thought... this _is_ IRC.09:02
eugmanaeroSoul, Wouldn't make install be a more intelligent way of doing that?09:02
siXydoes anyone here know why fgl_glxgears and glxgears hangs kubuntu 6.06?09:02
ladydoorYaakov: lol09:02
wols_swim: you can mount it without that via sudo09:02
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wols_siXy: shitty ati drivers? (just a guess...)09:02
aeroSouleugman: maybe... i didn't try =)09:02
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ladydoorkitchen: ok, so did you do partitioning in the live environment? if you did, did you specify the locations of your old partitions?09:02
aeroSoulonly copied that one file09:02
siXyclean install literally all ive done is installed the fglrx kernel module09:02
J-_how can i reconfigure x11?09:03
Yaakovladydoor: For the record, kitchen is a largely clueful individual.09:03
swimwols_: i also do not have an fd0 in /dev/09:03
habeebHello, I'm having some "kewl" problems. First of all, after some fucking up with resolutions and fglrx, when I now get to the login screen, the (main) screen turns off and I get an error message from the monitor. Something like "Not in sync" or something. When I type my username/pass (blindly) I get to GNOME alright.09:03
sivikhow deo i fix "Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library"?09:03
wols_J-_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-corg09:03
Descentionantares79: i dont see anything with nvidia... the closest thing is "ACPI: Video Device [NVD]  (multi-head: yes  rom: no  post: no)"09:03
wols_habeeb: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-corg09:03
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xMorphixhabeeb: Did you swear at the computer, because that helps sometimes09:03
ladydoorYaakov: i figured, from the way kitchen was working questions--they seemed more not as rude and demanding as a clueless person would be, luckily :-)09:03
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eugmanwols, who do I ask to have that answer added to ubotu?09:03
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habeebxMorphix: It did nothing. Absolutely nothing.09:04
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wols_swim: dmesg|less and look for the floppy09:04
[GuS] Guys, there is a app or plugin for firefox to block porn sites?09:04
antares79descention: what about "dmesg | grep -i nvidia"?09:04
aeroSoul[GuS] : you could use dansguardian (proxy)09:04
swimwols_: dmesg|grep floppy did not return a floppy09:04
sivik[GuS] , are you using some sort of router?09:04
habeebwols_: did that :) Tried multiple resolutions. Cant get the 1680x1050 to work with fglrx, tho.09:04
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[GuS] other thing than a proxy?09:04
TheGateKeeperkitchen: hmmm09:04
[GuS] yes sivik09:04
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botxjare the compiz directories fixed now?09:04
wols_swim: try fd. or look how the linux floppy modula is named09:04
Descentionantares79: nothing09:05
sivik[GuS] , what kind?09:05
xMorphixGuS: Why block porn sites?09:05
ladydoor!compiz09:05
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems09:05
kitchenladydoor: I used fdisk to do all the partitioning. where would I have specified locations of old partitions? I simply mounted them on temp mount points to copy stuff accross to the new HDD09:05
ladydoorbotxj: ^^^09:05
thenetduckcan somone help me be able to write documents to my internal slave drive?09:05
J-_wols_: it says xserver-corg is not installed09:05
kitchenladydoor: then I modified grub, which also worked fine.09:05
botxji hate the repositories09:05
sivik[GuS] , if its a linksys, you can log in and block certain words or phrases to not be able to get threw09:05
[GuS] sivik, adsl/router09:05
swimwols_ i've tried /dev/fd to no avail, dont know what else to try09:05
sivikbotxj, what don't you like about it?09:05
botxjthat they dont work09:05
sivik[GuS] , linksys?09:05
thenetduckanyone?09:06
[GuS] nope, Arescom09:06
sivikbotxj: are you using the us.archive.ubuntu.com stuff09:06
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ladydoorkitchen: yeah, that makes sense. huh. does this happen again if you edit them and then reboot?09:06
botxjnow i'll have to reinstall to 32bit ubuntu and install using the deb packages09:06
sivik[GuS] , i would look into the router to see if you can block that stuff09:06
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wols_Descention: lsmod. check for nvidia09:06
botxjsivik i dunno09:06
antares79descention: is there an nvidia-related file in /lib/modules/*/volatile at all?09:06
[GuS] <xMorphix> GuS: Why block porn sites? ---< silly question does it? ....09:06
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kitchenladydoor: it boots fine (apart from complaining about not being able check partitions which are no longer there), but then can't find /home (as I've moved it to a seperate partition on the new one, wheras I had it within / on the old one)09:06
ladydoorbotxj: just ask in #ubuntu-xgl, the appropriate channel09:06
sivikbotxj: go to terminal, open /etc/apt/sources.list09:06
wols_Descention: if it doesn't exist, "modprobe nvidia". and to make it permanent, add "nvidia" to /etc/modules09:06
xMorphixGuS: lol, porn is the best part of the internet! :P09:06
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[GuS] ok sivik, the problem is that router only accepts IE for HTTP conf... so i must use telnet09:07
xMorphixGuS: You should be able to build a filter through the firefox program itself09:07
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antares79i heard that xMorphix ;-)09:07
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botxjwell ladydoor as much i'd like to, i've already gotten my answer :P09:07
sivik[GuS] , thats gay09:07
J-_wols_: it says xserver-corg is not installed09:07
xMorphixantares79: ;) haha09:07
Descentionwols_: it doesnt say nvidia anywhere09:07
[GuS] yea sivik ... Arescom for that really sucks09:07
ladydoorkitchen: weird...so each time it boots, it rewrites it? sorry, i missed the first part of your conversation09:07
wols_J-_: xserver-xorg srry09:07
xMorphixladydoor <---- Doesn't Sleep, is a help MASTA09:07
sivik[GuS] , not sure, is there not a place on that page that will allow you to block stuff?09:07
sivik[GuS] , and why just IE09:08
ladydoorxMorphix: lol...you obviously miss the most-of-every-day when i'm *not* here. but i appreciate the compliment09:08
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[GuS] xMorphix, happy for you if you like it... bit i have a place with a lot of Kubuntu workstation.. where everybody comes... and i must block it09:08
[GuS] ok?09:08
sivikhow do i fix a problem with local09:08
[GuS] :)09:08
antares79descention: but you _are_ trying to use the ubuntu provided nvidia driver, you're not compiling it yourself, are you?09:08
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kitchenladydoor: I don't know, I should have checked before I switched the HDD. All I know is that the fstab that I copied accross only contained a couple of generic lines09:08
wols_!locales >sivik09:08
xMorphixGuS: Interesting, well you should be able to set settings with firefox to need a password to view certain websites09:08
kitchenladydoor: so I assume that it gets populated on boot09:08
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wols_Descention: then do what I told you09:09
kitchenladydoor: I think fedora uses evms to manage storage, I thought ubuntu might to something similar. I've come from gentoo, which just went with a straight-forward fstab approach to storage09:09
sivikwols_, thanks09:09
Yaakov[GuS] : The problem is that there are a mega-gazillion porn sites.09:09
ladydoorkitchen: aha! ok, actually you can edit it yourself to add appropriate locations09:09
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xMorphixGuS: Do you use ubuntu OS?09:09
Yaakov[GuS] : Some kind of subscirption service like NetNanny or the like is probably the only way.09:09
antares79yaakov: what's your point? it's to bothersome to find the good ones? ;-)09:09
[GuS] Yaakov, i know... but something is something09:09
DescentionI dont know how to compile09:09
ladydoorkitchen: do you happen to remember which partitions you assigned to what? if not, sudo fstab -l may refresh your memory.09:10
antares79ok, descention, just asking09:10
[GuS] i wil test dansguardian first09:10
wols_Descention: have you run "modprobe nvidia" yet?09:10
siXygus DansGuardian09:10
xMorphixladydoor: here is a question for you!09:10
Descentionantares79: i downloaded nvidia-glx from the synaptic thing09:10
ladydoorxMorphix: shoot!09:10
xMorphixladydoor: Ready!09:10
Descentionwols_: yes, it said module not found09:10
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xMorphixladydoor: when I go into my terminal and do su, it asks for a password09:10
antares79what gfx card do you have, anyway?09:10
kitchenladydoor: ok, sounds good, I'll give that a go. What made my curious was the fact that it moaned about not finding certain partitions to run fsck on, implying that it knew where stuff was - but that stuff wasn't in fstab09:10
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xMorphixladydoor: when I enter anything it says authorization failed09:11
siXyrun an old computer as an ipcop box - install squid webproxy and run dansguardian. thats the best solution09:11
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xMorphixladydoor: so what is my password? :P09:11
optimusprimehow do you remove an icon from the desktop....can't remember how I did to place it on the desktop....09:11
Descentionantares79: i have an Nvidia geforce go 6800 ultra09:11
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ladydoorkitchen: yeah, that is weird. i honestly don't know what's up with that09:11
variantanyone know how to edit the menu in gnome please?09:11
optimusprimelol09:11
antares79that's weird, descention09:11
wols_xMorphix: there is no root password. you can't go into root. use sudo09:11
Yaakovkitchen: There must be something that keeps a list for maintenance.  Maybe grep /etc?09:11
xMorphixwols_: Interesting09:11
ladydoorxMorphix: here's the thing:  ubuntu, by default, uses sudo for root access. when using sudo, you use your password. to become root, sudo -i is the command to use09:11
Mouldyhey all! Does anyone know how to make it so firefox can open irc:// links with xchat? It just tells me the irc protocol isn't associated with any programs.09:11
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wols_!sudo > xMorphix09:11
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antares79descention, what's in the directory /lib/modules/*/volatile ?09:12
variantxMorphix: do sudo su if you want to become root however that is not the reccomended method09:12
kitchenladydoor: yeh, sounds likely, I'll check for that. brb (I'm on the kitchen pc as mine's down ;)09:12
ladydoorMouldy: check out this extension:  mozex.modzev.org09:12
xMorphixvariant/ladydoor/wols_ : So what do you recommend I do09:12
POVaddctxMorphix: "there is not root password" does not mean that the root password is empty, though :)09:12
Descentionantares79: nothing09:12
Mouldyladydoor, will do, thanks09:13
ladydoorMouldy: it lets you assign programs to various and sundry types of links09:13
POVaddctxMorphix: there is just no valid password set for root09:13
antares79that's rather not good, descention09:13
variantxMorphix: run whatever command you want to run with root privilages with "sudo commandname" and enter your password09:13
wols_xMorphix: you can set a root password. or just use sudo09:13
variantPOVaddct: yes there is..09:13
Mouldyladydoor, was that a typo on the link? It's not finding the right page.09:13
variantPOVaddct: its randomised though09:13
xMorphixwols_ : So lets set my password09:13
Yaakovsudo is a nice, clean, safe way ot act as superuser.09:13
Descentionlol, nice09:13
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Ackeubu_fluxbox &09:13
xMorphixwols_: sudo <whatever I want> ?09:13
ladydoorxMorphix: i would advise you to use sudo, and use sudo -i to su to root. if you *absolutely need* a root password, you can use sudo passwd root, but that is a LAST RESORT. use it only if your religion forbids sudo -i09:13
wols_xMorphix: yes09:13
antares79descention, are you up to date wrt to updates?09:14
Descentionantares79: do you know what i should do?09:14
xMorphixladydoor: lol09:14
Descentionantares79: yes09:14
xMorphixladydoor: I Just want to have something set, I don't NEED to use root09:14
ladydoorMouldy: http://mozex.mozdev.org/ should work09:14
xMorphixladydoor: Great, first I can't eat meat, now I can't use a root09:14
Mouldyladydoor, thanks alot09:14
POVaddctvariant: the password hash for root is not radomly set, is it "*", which can't be generated by any password09:14
xMorphixladydoor: damn the religions09:14
rexbron!dri09:14
ubotudri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.09:14
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antares79don't know yet, descention... please wait a minute09:14
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rexbron I have a wierd problem, I have dri but no3d accel09:15
albackerany way to convert 3gp videos to swf or anything else ?09:15
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ladydoorxMorphix: ok, then i guess you can do what i just said--however, do keep in mind it's not the "suggested" way of doing things :-)09:15
ladydoorxMorphix: and lol09:15
kitcherexbron: what card are you using?09:15
xMorphixladydoor: thanks hun09:15
rexbroni91509:15
xMorphixwols_: you too, you roxers as well09:15
dieman[  172.591212]  Memory: 49456076k/51118080k available (2115k kernel code, 874836k reserved, 807k data, 180k init)09:16
diemanmmmmmm09:16
ladydoorxMorphix: please don't call me "hon." and you're welcome09:16
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YaakovThe Hon. Ladydoor09:16
antares79alright, descention: is there a directory /lib/linux-restricted-modules/(kernel version)/nvidia/ ?09:16
rexbronkitche: i91509:16
ladydoorxMorphix: though if you meant it in the sense of "attila/door the..." then you're fine09:16
Descentionantares79: yes09:16
antares79is there anything in it?09:17
Descentionantares79: 8 files09:17
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wols_rexbron: which X driver? and: i915G integrated graphics?09:17
xMorphixladydor: Yes, thats the way I meant it09:17
Yaakovladydoor: Atilla the Door09:17
antares79that's right09:17
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ladydoorYaakov: lol09:17
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xMorphixanywho09:17
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rexbronkitche: i810 and yes09:17
Mouldyladydoor, I won't install. Says there's something wrong with the chrome file.09:17
Descentionantares79: nv.o is one... nvidia.mod.o might be what im looking for?09:18
robbbbhello09:18
variantanyone know where the menu file is located so i can add my own custome entry?09:18
variantin gnome09:18
kitcherexbron: well try this glxinfo|grep rendering in a terminal09:18
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antares79those are the ones, yes... but they should also be relocated to another place where the kernel can find them automatically.. looks like that doesn't happen on your system09:18
ladydoorMouldy: this'll sound like a stupid question, but did you click on the "install" button for windows or for *nix??09:18
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stadtfilterah finally...in dmesg it shows Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet splash....from where did it take that? grub?09:18
robbbbanyone in here know much about programming in linux? specificly using a visual environment and connections to MSSQL?09:18
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Mouldyladydoor, For *nix :p09:18
rexbrondirect rendering: Yes09:19
rexbronkitche: direct rendering: Yes09:19
Descentionantares79:  so something is wrong09:19
antares79descention: try running "sudo /etc/init.d/linux-restricted-modules-common start"09:19
Imrahilrobbbb, do you mean mysql or ms sql server?09:19
spiderwormhey all, i have a blender.desktop entry in /usr/share/applications, but no corrosponding blender application in applications>graphics..... does anyone know how to fix this?09:19
blade_Any one in here familiar with Rythmbox Music Player?09:19
Mouldyladydoor, It seems to start installing, then after it tells me to restart firefox it says; "Firefox could not install the file at .... because: Chrome registration failed09:19
Descentionantares79: "ok"09:20
robbbbImrahil, MSSQL i'm afriad09:20
ladydoorMouldy: hmmmm. that's very weird. perhaps install an older version (on the right side of the main page)?09:20
stadtfilterantares79, any idea?09:20
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stadtfilternothing in grub like this enabled huh09:20
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kitchenladydoor: ok, couldn't find anything in /etc, but I added all my paths manually, and (after a couple of tweaks) it now all works fine :) many thanks to yourself and Yaakov, and all the best from sunny Dubai!09:20
antares79descention: ok... is there anything in /lib/modules/(kernel version)/volatile now?09:20
Descentionno09:21
ladydoorMouldy: also, are you in dapper/using the latest version of firefox?09:21
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rexbronktiche: direct rendering: Yes09:21
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rexbronkitche: direct rendering: Yes09:21
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ladydoorkitchen: congratulations! glad to help. Enjoy!09:21
Mouldyladydoor, Yep, latest dapper and firefox. I'll try an older version of the extension09:21
Imrahilrobbbb, no experience connecting to ms sql but it should be straightforward. what type of visual environment are you using?09:21
Descentionantares79: should i just re-format?09:21
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Mouldyladydoor, It worked, thanks =) Now just to set it up with an IRC client and I'm good to go :)09:21
robbbbwell i'm using visual studio at the moment, but want to start running stuff in linux instead09:21
ladydoorMouldy: great! enjoy!09:22
antares79hang on for a minute... nvidia drivers are not worth a re-install ;-)09:22
Descentionhah09:22
kitcherexbron: ok it's using the i915 driver. I m not sure if i915 has 3d accel directly, sicne the i845g and lower don't have direct 3d accel.09:22
mwei915 supports direct rendering09:23
bettehello peps... can some one tell me how i can change the language from french to english on a sever with Kubutnu ??? i am logget in with Putty... i cant remotedesktop it...09:23
mwebut it's somewhat slow09:23
mjr...and also the older i8xx thingies do09:23
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blue-frogis there a channel for edgy?09:24
kitchemjr: I know with i845g you need mesalib to get full 3d accel09:24
mwe!edgy09:24
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule09:24
blue-frogty09:24
mjrkitche, all X.org DRI drivers use mesa...09:24
robbbb!schedule09:24
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule09:24
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quietwat driver should be used by "0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Grap09:25
quiethics Controller (rev 02)09:25
quiet"  i have been using i810...  would i get better results with i915 or something?09:25
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antares79descention: try running "sudo /sbin/lrm-manager --quick" and please tell me what i says09:25
antares79it09:25
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kitchemjr: yes but i915 isn't a X.org driver09:26
POVaddctquiet: for i915 the Xorg driver is still i810, or do you mean the kernel dri driver?09:26
Descentionantares79: it doesnt say anything09:26
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sivikok, doing the dpkg-reconfigure localeconf didn't fix that problem09:26
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quietPOVaddct, umm.. oh... i dunno.09:26
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kitchequiet: there is an i915 driver but you have to compile it yourself atleast the Intel driver09:26
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antares79descention, what's "uname -r"?09:26
sivikwhat does the LC_ALL look like09:27
robbbbanyone know of a visual development environment for linux?09:27
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Descention2.6.15-27-68609:27
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sivikrobbbb, what lang?09:27
sivikrobbbb, or langs?09:27
robbbbc#09:27
robbbbvb09:27
sivikrobbbb, monodevelop09:27
robbbbeither really09:27
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sivikrobbbb, install mono and then monodevelop09:27
antares79and did all those directories that i told you to look for files in contain that string anywhere? or was it (if ever so slightly) different?09:28
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sivikrobbbb, does that make sense09:28
Descentionantares79: the volatile folder is in a 386 folder09:28
J-_wols_:  thanks for helping me reconfigure x11, i not only got the gui working but i got the right driver working, and it works awesome. it's nice to have video acceleration =D09:28
antares79ah, gotcha09:28
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robbbbsivik, yeah thanks. isn't mono a .net emulator?09:28
sivikrobbbb, no09:29
cs02rm0how would i go about getting a linux kernel update from edgy eft and nothing else? just change my sources.list, update, install the kernel, put the sources.list back and update again?09:29
bettehello... can some one tell me how i can change the language from french to english on a sever with Kubutnu ??? i am logget in with Putty... i cant remotedesktop it...09:29
antares79try "sudo apt-get install linux-686" (i think it is *cough* ;-)09:29
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sivikrobbb: go to mono-project.com and look around09:29
POVaddctquiet: the Xorg driver is for basic X display via the intel card. the dri driver is only needed if you want 3d acceleration.09:29
robbbbsivik, yeah looks cool.09:29
rbwI am using Ubuntu 6.06... If I reboot my system remotely, how do I get VNC to run so I can login to the desktop remotely?09:29
quietPOVaddct, is there a howto for installing that?09:29
sivikrobbbb, monodevelop is the IDE for mono09:29
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POVaddctquiet: dunno09:29
Descentionantares79: it's running...09:30
robbbbgot ya09:30
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Descentionantares79: done09:30
robbbbanyone know howto get your mouse to follow focus?09:30
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antares79fine... did it download linux-restricted-modules-686?09:30
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Descentionyes09:31
Descentioni tihnk09:31
Locke2http://www.usbcell.com/09:31
robbbbusing enlightment as the WM09:31
xMorphixwhat java client should I use?09:31
antares79good... you have to reboot now... after that, it should (haha *g) just work09:31
kitcherobbbb: should be in the settings for enlightenment right click and it should say focus in that menu09:31
sivikrobbbb, enlightenment is cool, i like it09:31
Descentionalright, thank oyu09:31
ladydoorok, i've got a question. a lot of people in here ask about 3D acceleration, whether with nvidia or ati. What are the benefits of it? Does it matter for somebody who only uses, say, ratpoison WM and isn't a gamer?09:32
Descentioni'll be back to let you know if it works or not09:32
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antares79no problem... good luck, descention09:32
sivikrobbbb, yeah, it is either right click or ctrl-left click09:32
robbbbkitche, sivik, it still doesn't seem to follow the mouse09:32
sivikrobbbb, you have to restart enlightenment09:32
antares79anyway, i came into this room to ask a question myself in the first place ;-)09:32
sivikctrl-alt-backspace and relogin09:33
robbbbreally?09:33
sivikantares79, what is your question09:33
sivikrobbbb, yeah, try that09:33
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antares79does anyone know if edgy will contain the recently announced intel graphics drivers?09:33
POVaddctladydoor: mostly it's needed for games09:33
sivikantares79, not sure, i don't use intel09:33
robbbbi've just changed from 'focus follows mouse'09:33
xMorphixif I wanted to use java, what program should I use?09:33
ladydoorPOVaddct: ok, that about answers my question. thanks a lot!09:33
robbbbtook effect instantly, but it's not want i'm after09:33
kitcheladydoor: well it depends but ratposion it's no good on but you need 3d accel to use compiz if you want to use something like that09:33
POVaddctladydoor: window managers normally take no advantage of 3d accel09:33
sivikrobbbb, what are you after?09:34
antares79thanks anyway, sivik09:34
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ladydoorkitche: aha, thanks09:34
sivikantares79, just trying to help09:34
sivikhow do i fix http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2490109:34
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rexbronkitche: so is there any recourse for me?09:35
robbbbi want to be able to click i.e. a contact in gaim, and it will then move my mouse to the conversation window09:35
POVaddctladydoor: for example on my machines i have no 3d accel at all. i simply don't need it.09:35
mwethe pastebin is really slow09:35
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variantworks like a charm09:35
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rexbronO.o09:35
ladydoorPOVaddct: that makes sense. yeah, i don't have it either, and was just kind of wondering if i was missing out. lol09:35
antares79sivik: what's your locale?09:35
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antares79ie. what does "echo $LC_ALL" say?09:36
mwesivik: seems to be an unsupported locale09:36
antares79wb descention09:36
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DescentionIT works!!!! I have Nvidia!!!09:36
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Descentionlol09:36
variantDescention: unlucky09:36
antares79woohoo ;-)09:36
sivikantares79, i live in the us so its english09:36
Descentionthank you09:36
trappistPOVaddct: I don't think anybody would argue that it's necessary, or even really useful.  sure is nice to look at though.09:36
sivikantares79, i'm not sure what i need to do in order to fix it09:36
kitcherexbron: well it seems like to me you have 3d accel but it's probably not full 3d09:36
xMorphix...<<<<<Look at my fun way to get attention>>>>>.....09:37
kitchereally 3d accel is only needed if you want to run eyecandy stuff09:37
xMorphixwhat java client should I use09:37
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rexbronkitche: so how should go about getting "full" 3d accel09:37
sivikmwe: what can i do to fix it?09:37
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kitchexMorphix: java client for what?09:37
antares79sivik, please wait a minute09:37
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sivikk09:37
J-_i just like the acceleration for gaming, and or doing projects in the gimp, "applying filters" doesn't take hours(minutes in my case).. 2 seconds it's done =D09:37
xMorphixkitche: well I need java to run some things in firefox09:37
trappistxMorphix: if I wasn't completely put off by your attempt at getting attention, I'd ask what you mean by java client.09:38
xMorphixtrappist: haha09:38
antares79sivik: please go to the directory /var/lib/locales/supported.d09:38
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xMorphixtrappist: it worked though09:38
kitcherexbron: you could try installing mesalib and setting that up it might be installed already09:38
trappistxMorphix: I promise it's not the kind of attention you want.  please avoid the temptation in the future.09:38
sivikantares79, ok, now what?09:38
kitcheXMorhpix: just install java09:38
xMorphixtrappist: Any type of attention is wanted ;P09:38
antares79is there a file called "local"?09:38
rexbronkitche: whats the command to conifre libmesa09:38
kitcheXMorphix: I would install JSDK myself09:39
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xMorphixkitche: well I tried that I just oculdn't get it to install09:39
robbbbhmmmm.. i think gnome might be interfering with enlightmenet09:39
sivikantares79, en & local09:39
xMorphixkitche: where would I get JSDK?09:39
sivikrobbbb, then uninstall gnome09:39
xMorphixkitche: run a search for it?09:39
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kitcherexbron: it's more though the xorg.conf you have to set up the dri section09:39
robbbbi use the gnome-panel09:39
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POVaddcttrappist: i used to like transparent terminals around 1999 or so. but if you really work with such terminals, you soon learn that a opaque terminal is much more readable.09:39
variantxMorphix: use synaptic and search for jdk09:39
kitcheXMorphix: yes if you want apt-get package09:39
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variantxMorphix: but you only need a jdk if you intend to develop. if you just want to use java programs then you need the jre09:40
whurleyhi all, is there any way I can netboot to install Ubuntu server?09:40
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antares79wait a minute... it says LC_ALL is unset... that's funny09:40
Ubuntu-phhow can I run emacs on xterm ?09:40
xMorphixvariant: I just plan to use09:40
antares79what's in /etc/environment, sivik?09:40
trappistPOVaddct: having transparent terminals requires you to choose your desktop background carefully.  also looks quite nice, and a *truly* transparent terminal can also be useful.09:40
ladydoorrobbbb: are you trying to use enlightened gnome?09:40
variantxMorphix: then search for jre not jdk09:40
variantUbuntu-ph: read the man page09:40
robbbbladydoor, yeah i guess so09:40
ladydoorrobbbb: (like, gnome with enlightenment as a window manager instead of metacity)09:41
trappistUbuntu-ph: I think it's emacs -nw09:41
Ubuntu-phvariant: was hoping for a quick command09:41
xMorphixvariant: I ran a search in Synaptic, all it returned was dockbook-xsl09:41
Ubuntu-phtrappist: thanks09:41
variantUbuntu-ph: man emacs09:41
variantUbuntu-ph: :)09:41
POVaddcttrappist: the only transparent thing on my desktop is root-tail, which sits on the root window displaying me the last line of some log files09:41
robbbbladydoor, yeah exactly like that09:41
Ubuntu-phvariant: yeah, right09:41
variantxMorphix: look for sun jre09:41
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jazzrockerUbuntu-ph, emacs has an X11 version09:41
variantxMorphix: or blackdown09:41
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variantxMorphix: you need to enable the other repositorys09:41
blowfishThe greeter application appears to be crashing.09:41
Ubuntu-phjazzrocker: really ?09:41
blowfishwhy ?09:41
Ubuntu-ph:)09:41
blowfish6.06.109:41
jazzrockerUbuntu-ph, it should run by default actually. yes09:41
variantxMorphix: before they are available09:41
trappistPOVaddct: I might for example start a compile job, then work in an ever-so-slightly transparent window on top of that, and be able to see when it's done (or at least when it's stopped)09:42
xMorphixvariant: so how would I do that?09:42
jazzrockerUbuntu-ph, there's also xemacs but xemacs is a branch iirc09:42
ladydoorrobbbb: i know that there's an old howto on the forums (like for hoary or something) but it still might be a good jumping-off point...let me see if i can find it09:42
blowfishwhen gnome bootings09:42
Paddy_EIREhey guys, I just removed my external hdd from its casing and put in inside the comp.  I see the 3 partitions in "computer" although when I try to access anyone of them I get the Error "Unable to mount the selected volume."  "error: device /dev/hdb3 is not removable"  "error: could not execute pmount" any ideas???09:42
Ubuntu-phjazzrocker: I see09:42
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variantxMorphix: there is extensive docs for it on ubuntu website09:42
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robbbbladydoor, thanks09:42
jazzrockerUbuntu-ph, e.g. if you're in GNOME and you type "emacs" in a terminal... it should launch an X11 emacs because it knows you're in X1109:42
rexbronkitche: here is my xorg.conf, I thought is was set up correctly09:42
rexbronkitche: http://pastebin.ca/18329109:42
Ubuntu-phtrappist: emacs -nw worked09:42
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jazzrockerUbuntu-ph, personally i don't think anyone should ever type "emacs" ever09:42
xMorphixvariant: that's why I come here, to stay awar from the "extensive" type of reading09:42
xMorphixaway*09:42
POVaddcttrappist: i'd rather use screen(1) for that. (screen's "monitor for silence" function)09:42
Ubuntu-phjazzrocker: why is that ?09:43
trappistUbuntu-ph: yeah for me too.  but then I didn't know how to get out of emacs :)09:43
jazzrockerUbuntu-ph, i've already got an OS :)09:43
erUSULPaddy_EIRE: to mount hard disks use System>Administration>Disks or add the apropiate lines to /etc/fstab09:43
trappistPOVaddct: screen is definitely a must-have09:43
Ubuntu-phtrappist: heh09:43
POVaddcttrappist: yes :)09:43
Ubuntu-phjazzrocker: what does that mean ?09:43
jazzrockerUbuntu-ph, vim is faster and better. emacs PHP support is very crappy. vim doesn't try to be your kitchen sink.09:43
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ladydoorrobbbb: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54476&highlight=enlightened+gnome . This is an old howto, but people still post to it (as of a month ago, it seems), so you might look at the first few and the last few postings :-). good luck!09:43
Lam_is emacs default with ubuntu or do i have to install the emacs package?09:43
jazzrockerUbuntu-ph, hehehe if you don't know why you're using emacs you should get out now and switch to vim :P09:43
Splintahis it worth it to upgrade to 6.10 knot 3 or should I just wait for the final release?09:43
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jazzrockerLam_, iirc you have to install it09:43
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robbbbladydoor - thanks for that09:44
Ubuntu-phjazzrocker: vim > emacs ?09:44
jazzrockerLam_, yeah you have to install it09:44
javierholaaaaaaaaaaaaaa09:44
ladydoorrobbbb: np09:44
Lam_ok just checking09:44
jazzrockerUbugtu, IMHO yes, by far09:44
antares79sivik?09:44
kitcherexbron: yeah it's set up correctly guess that i915 just uses direct rendering09:44
jazzrockergah09:44
jazzrockerUbuntu-ph, that was for you09:44
robbbbi've used enlightement for a long time, but need to get it working *exactly* as i need09:44
ladydoorjavier: Ubuntu-ph:  could we save the religious debate for #ubuntu-offtopic, please?09:44
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Ubuntu-phlol09:44
ladydoorjavier: sorry, not you09:44
javieralguien habla espaol?09:44
rexbronkitche: glxgears gives about 500 fps09:44
ladydoorjazzrocker: please save the religious debate for #ubuntu-offtopic09:44
ArrenLex!es09:44
ladydoor!es09:44
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:45
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ladydoorArrenLex: too quick for me09:45
javiergracias09:45
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ArrenLexIt's very quiet for 953 people.09:45
ladydoorArrenLex: that's just asking for trouble09:46
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Komischhello09:46
erUSUL!dapper09:46
ubotudapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"09:46
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enycladydoor: lol09:46
Paddy_EIREerUSUL: gonna try the "disks" option first as I think mounting it using fstab would be difficult as the drive is spilt into 3 ntfs partitions. It contains loads of progs, vids, music, and me mother and course work. I just plan on copying what I need to my ubuntu drive then formatting it09:46
Lam_i dont mean to criticize, but even with ndiswrapper, my broadcom card seems to have horrible range09:46
erUSUL!upgrade09:46
ubotuUpgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes09:46
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Komischhow can i open rar files ? i am using ubuntu 6.0609:46
jazzrockerUbuntu-ph, here's a fact (e.g. less religious, no debate): vim comes installed on most *nix distros by default. emacs almost never does.09:46
rexbronkitche: glxgears gives09:46
=== Animaonline hello
czer323Anyone work with kxdocker and gaim?  I'm having issues with gaim not showing as an active application when gaim is mimimized to the system tray.  Any suggestions?09:46
kyjalashings are given out by uboto on the most popular speaker.09:46
rexbronkitche: glxgears gives 2638 frames in 5.0 seconds = 527.444 FPS09:46
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AnimaonlineUbuntu Rulez09:46
ArrenLexHomisch: apt-get install unrar09:46
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erUSUL!ntfs > Paddy_EIRE09:46
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kitcherexbron: yeah does the gears spin slow or no?09:47
KomischE: Package unrar has no installation candidate09:47
rexbronslowly09:47
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kyja!custom09:47
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about custom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:47
rexbronkitche: slowly09:47
ArrenLexKimisch: either add multiverse or try unrar-free09:47
xMorphixvariant: still can't find anything close to java09:47
mwe!info unrar09:47
ArrenLexKom09:47
xMorphix!java09:47
ubotuunrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB09:47
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Paddy_EIREerUSUL: i know the craic with ntfs :)09:47
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository09:47
erUSULPaddy_EIRE: check out the script in the page ubotu told you. This script makes aviable to you all your win partitions under /media09:47
kitcherexbron: yeah that might be due to i915 direct rendering is probably slower then the mesalib way09:47
Komischok09:47
sivikantares79, sorry, what do i need to try next, i'm in that folder and there are two things there, en and local09:47
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Komischhow do i add multiverse?09:48
Paddy_EIREerUSUL: oh, nice one did not know of a script that'll do it09:48
rexbronkitche: how do i check to see oif i have the mesalib09:48
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erUSULPaddy_EIRE: the scipt will add the apropiate lines to /etc/fstab09:48
sivikKomisch, open /etc/apt/sources.list and add the line09:48
Komischi did sudo apt-get update09:48
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: Yes you did...09:48
Animaonlinehttp://www.animaonline.com   This site has a lot of stuff bout Ubuntu 6.0609:48
mwe!repos09:48
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource09:48
Animaonline:(09:48
antares79sivik, i overlooked sth (is that a word?)... what's in /etc/environment? (it's a text file)09:48
ArrenLex!multiverse > Komisch09:48
ladydoorKomisch: you edit /etc/apt/sources.list. first, back it up:  cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak . then, do sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list09:48
kitcherexbron: check synaptic to see if you have it installed09:48
rexbronk09:49
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Animaonlinehello!!! can someone help me?09:49
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Paddy_EIREnot a script that does it for you Jack_Sparrow09:49
ladydoorKomisch: and then add the line deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse09:49
georgy!ask09:49
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:49
Jack_SparrowDiskmounter?09:49
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Animaonlinei can't run ubuntu on my second pc, it says, decompressing linux kernel, and then my computer restarts09:49
Paddy_EIREJack_Sparrow: oh, then I did hehe, oops09:49
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POVaddctAnimaonline: look like bad ram09:50
POVaddctAnimaonline: run memtest09:50
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Animaonlinei did09:50
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Animaonlinei have 768mb ram09:50
georgyAnimaonline : try boot option noapic09:50
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: FYI, HI, just taking a break from building new shelves in the pantry for the wife..09:50
Animaonlineok09:50
CokeNCodehey, guys, i've noticed alot of apps lately that offer free tv for windows users ... are there any linux versions of these apps ?09:50
sivikantares79, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2490309:50
Paddy_EIREJack_Sparrow: wife09:51
ArrenLexCoke: you mean like mythtv?09:51
xMorphixI don't seem to have the multiverse repository09:51
sivikCokeNCode, do you mean for a tv capture card?09:51
CokeNCodeArrenLex yeh09:51
antares79thanks, sivik, i'll take a look09:51
xMorphixwhere would I find that?09:51
Paddy_EIREJack_Sparrow: you get married....congrats09:51
Animaonlinethanks everyone! talk to yall later09:51
ArrenLexCoke: How about... mythtv?09:51
Paddy_EIRE:)09:51
CokeNCodesivik nah, not a tv capture card ... streaming network tv09:51
Dr_willisHow is that tv 'free' ?09:51
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: Over 25 years ago09:51
sivik!repos >xMorphix09:51
rexbron!libgl1-mesa-glide309:51
ubotulibgl1-mesa-glide3: A free implementation of the OpenGL API -- glide runtime. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.2.1-8 (dapper), package size 1600 kB, installed size 4812 kB (Only available for i386 alpha amd64)09:51
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CokeNCodeis there an apt-get for mythtv ?09:51
sivik!repos > xMorphix09:51
xMorphixsivik: thanks sivik09:51
Paddy_EIREJack_Sparrow: oops, lol09:51
sivikCokeNCode, yes09:51
Dr_willisheh.. seen a few web sites that stream tv video. but they tend to use custome programs09:51
sivikxMorphix, yw09:51
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rexbron!libgl1-mesa09:51
ubotulibgl1-mesa: A free implementation of the OpenGL API -- GLX runtime. In component main, is extra. Version 6.4.1-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 158 kB, installed size 488 kB09:51
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Paddy_EIREJack_Sparrow: congrats again then, :/09:52
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Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: I am thinking of reworking diskmounter to insculde ntfs-3g.09:52
CokeNCodeDr_willis yup! and the custom programs are usually for windows only09:52
rexbronkitche: I have mesa installed but not things like glide309:52
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CokeNCodehence my problem09:52
sivikCokeNCode, have you tried running them in wine09:52
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: I have not seen any problems with it recently09:52
xMorphixsivik: ok so it is all on me, however how do I get to the multiverse repository09:53
antares79sivik: you can remove all those LC_something lines and replace them with "LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8" .  But better put that line above that ### BEGIN DEBCONF etc. line09:53
CokeNCodesivik yeh ... no dice09:53
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xMorphixsivik: is that under the managingrepositories page?09:53
Paddy_EIREJack_Sparrow: jeeze now that would be somethin09:53
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Paddy_EIREJack_Sparrow: you think its at a good level of stability now09:53
kitcherexbron: I would install glide3 and the mesa-dri package just to make sure09:54
rexbronok09:54
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sivikxMorphix, i edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file and add the repos to that file and then run a sudo apt-get update09:54
fenotypehi all09:54
rexbronkitche: the mesa-dri package is already installed09:54
sivikxMorphix, pm09:54
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antares79sivik: like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2490409:54
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: Close enough for me to do some testing on my own systems09:54
fenotypecould someone help me about kernel?09:55
CokeNCodewell, i'll try mythtv ... thanks guys09:55
Paddy_EIREJack_Sparrow: that'll be a memorable release, good luck... :)09:55
ladydoor!kernel09:55
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild09:55
Jack_Sparrownp09:55
sivikxMorphix, did you get that pm?09:55
wolsfenotype: just ask09:55
fenotypetnx09:55
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radioaktivstormhello, i am having an issue with my audio i/o; im trying to record  via audacity but cannot. (it gives me a funky error message about i/o)09:56
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fenotypei've just recompiled my dapper 6.06's kernel with one download at ubuntu's repository09:57
sivikantares79, trying it now09:57
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Xabarasciao09:57
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xMorphixsivik: I did, and I added the multiverse repositories from system>administration>software properties09:57
antares79sivik: this change requires a reboot AFAIK09:57
Xabarasragazzi a chi posso chiedere per un aiuto sull'accelerazione grafic09:57
Xabarasa09:57
xMorphixsivik: you want me to add those two you PM'ed me as well?09:57
xMorphix!java09:58
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository09:58
fenotype1) applied a patch to the kernel 2) configured09:58
sivikxMorphix, didn't know you did the multiverse thingy in system.admin.software properties09:58
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fenotype3) compiled 4) installed09:58
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sivikxMorphix, if you already did that first, you shouldn't have to do what i told you, do a sudo apt-get update and see if it works, if not, go in and edit the sources.list and add those and then it will work09:58
xMorphixsivik: I like to sometimes I pretend to act like I know what your all talking about09:59
fenotypethe problem is that my older kernel had a directory named volatile09:59
xMorphixsivik: however, if it doesn't work, might need to step me through it09:59
Paddy_EIREJack_Sparrow: Im getting "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hdb1"."09:59
fenotypeando others that the newer on hasn't got09:59
sivikxMorphix, ok09:59
sivikxMorphix, ok, do an sudo apt-get update10:00
ReinHguys, question, if I'm going to partition my HD to dual boot with WinXP, with a root ubuntu partition and a Ext3 partition for /home and shared date, how big should the root ubuntu partition be?10:00
ReinH(and also a partition for windows, of course)10:00
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: Post your fstab for me pastebin of course10:00
sivikxMorphix, what package are you trying install that require the multiverse10:00
Paddy_EIREJack_Sparrow: :) excellent10:00
xMorphixsivik: ok i'm downloading the sun-java5-jre / plugin / and fonts10:00
Xabarasenyone can help me for enable acelerator grafic10:00
beunoReinH: it really depends on what your habits on installing software is10:00
Xabaras??10:00
sivikok, then it should have worked10:00
beunoin /home or el /usr10:00
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sivikxMorphix, i'm pretty sure you need the multiverse for those10:01
beunoReinH: I'd say no less de 6gb to be safe10:01
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kjmReinH - whole system will install in under 5 GB - but, if you plan on installing lots of libraries (KDE stuff, developer tools) I'd make it 10 - 15 GB to be safe.10:01
xMorphixsivik: oh yeah, I found them and they are downloading as we speak10:01
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sivikxMorphix, then your all set10:01
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fenotypeXabras: vieni su ubuntu-it che c' meno casino10:01
georgy!nvidia10:01
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:01
appelzaHi how do I install eAccelerator ? 'apt-get install eAccelerator' gives me 'this package is referenced by another source..'10:01
xMorphixsivik: your always a treasure here, thanks sivik again10:01
sivikxMorphix, yw10:01
fenotypeXabaras: vieni su ubuntu-it che c' meno casino10:02
appelza!pkg eAccelerator10:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pkg eAccelerator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:02
Paddy_EIREJack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2490510:02
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ReinHbeuno, kjm: thank you :) I think I'll go with a middle of the road 12GB. This will be a dev box and run a development (no public access) server10:02
beunowelcome :D10:02
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xMorphixsivik: lol they are downloading, through a 820.11b at 210 b/s10:02
beunoyou can always change the size later10:02
kjmappelza : apt-cache search eAccelerator finds nothing - what is it?10:03
xMorphixsivik: what type of wirless gives you 210b/s :P10:03
sivikxMorphix, that sucks10:03
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: Loading it up now...  we may need to edit your /etc/pmount.allow10:03
ReinHbeuno: true :)10:03
ReinHthanks, guys10:03
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ReinHexpect to see me in here once I get things running :)10:03
Tyk0sNeed help with an install error get it on both desktop & server version /msg10:03
Paddy_EIREJack_Sparrow: sure10:03
sivikxMorphix, it kinda depends on how far away from the ap you are and how good the internet is to that ap10:03
beunog'luck10:03
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: Argh... those are all ntfs..10:03
kjmReinH - you should be sage with 12 GB.  Also, I find it adventagous to put /etc on its own partition (as well as /home)10:03
xMorphixsivik: I know, I just think it's funny that it would be faster through dial-up10:03
kjmSee you ReinH10:03
xMorphixsivik: yeees what is the world coming too10:03
sivikxMorphix, yes, thats rather funny10:03
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sivikxMorphix, where are you getting this connection from?10:04
Paddy_EIREJack_Sparrow: the annoying thing is I just want some work of each of them ...then its getting formatted10:04
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: I thought I taught you better than that...10:04
Paddy_EIRElol10:04
xMorphixsivik: local sandwhich place near me10:04
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Jack_SparrowOk so you just want to read them and your fstab if fine.10:04
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kinectionexit10:04
xMorphixsivik: 100% connection, non-encrypted10:04
sivikxMorphix, how far from the location are you?10:04
Paddy_EIREJack_Sparrow: this drive was from my Windoze era10:04
xMorphixsivik: 12 feet10:04
sivikxMorphix, then they are just either full or don't have a good connection10:04
sivikantares79, that didn't fix it10:05
CarlFKwhen did 2.6.15-27-k7 come out?10:05
xMorphixjack_Sparrow: Congrats on the marriage thing, sorry your in "Jail" the rest of your life10:05
xMorphixjack_Sparrow: :p10:05
sivikCarlFK, a while back10:05
antares79sivik, as I said, you need a reboot10:05
CarlFKsivik: days or weeks?10:05
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Bordochcan anyone tell me how to install a package so that all user account have access to that package?10:05
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sivikCarlFK, well, the current most stable kernel is 2.6.17 something10:05
sivikCarlFK, so its been a while10:05
Tyk0stried 2 linux versions now and come to same "error", both ubuntu desktop & server version. think i successfully boot with CD i think (becuase i get same thing on screen when i start with the CD), it stop with [DR-DOS] A:\>. It says something about Caldera DR-DOS 7.03 & DPMS Dos Protected mode services. please help :)10:05
sivikantares79, i did, i did it on the laptop and then i rebotted it10:05
wolsBordoch: depends a bit on the package, but normally there is no special way. so which package is it?10:05
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sivikTyk0s, your not burning the disc correctly10:05
kjmBordoch - ?  All users do have access to every package they have permission to use.10:06
sivikTyk0s, what program are you using to burn it10:06
Tyk0snero express10:06
Bordochsun run time envirinment10:06
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wolsTyk0s: stop trolling10:06
ReinHkjm: just saw your comment: how big a partition should /etc have? and how advantageous?10:06
jendaI'm wondering - if I want to move my / partition - is it enough to copy it verbatim using gparted and setting the new one as / in fstab?10:06
antares79sivik, is it still the same message?  with LC_ALL=(unset) ?10:06
rexbronkitche: the glide packages unistalled mesa, and seeing as they are not for my card I reverted10:06
xMorphixTyk0s: Your burning the cd as an image correct?10:06
Xabaras!pkg eAccelerator10:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pkg eAccelerator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:06
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CarlFKsivik: shouldn't the 'check for updates' be telling me there is a new one?10:06
Dr_willisTyk0s,  look on the cd. and see what files are on it at this time.10:06
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xMorphixTyk0s: and not as a "data-file"10:06
lewixyou're going to drive back and forth?10:06
antares79jenda: you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and run update-grub afterwards as well10:06
sivikCarlFK, it depends on what your repos say, are you in breezy or dapper?10:06
rexbronkitche; also, (this happened before too) it get10:06
rexbronglxgears: intel_ioctl.c:62: intelEmitIrqLocked: Assertion `((*(int *)intel->driHwLock) & ~0x40000000U) == (0x80000000U|intel->hHWContext)' failed.10:06
rexbronAborted10:06
sivikantares79, not the same10:07
CarlFKsivik: dapper10:07
Dr_willisTyk0s,  you may want to use the program 'burn at once' under windows - it makes burtning an .iso image easy.10:07
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Tyk0sdownloaded the swedish version and i burn it as a "bootable data disc"10:07
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Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: My fmask is 0111 and my dmask is 000010:07
antares79sivik, what does it say instead?10:07
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sivikTyk0s, you can't do it that way, you have to burn as an image not as a file10:07
sivikantares79, let me get it to you10:07
Adept2point0Ok, something got messed up, after ctrl-alt-backspace, I go back to my Ubuntu login screen, which is in higher resolution, and I enter my login and password. After that, my screen clicks, but kicks me to command only. Again it asks for my login and pass, I enter it, and back to the ubuntu GUI log in, this goes back and forth, not every time verbatim, but the same routine. Eventually I find myself at the command screen only viewing10:07
Adept2point0brooks@brooks-desktop:~$10:07
Adept2point0and a blinking cursor, I don't know what I did or how to get back to my desktop.10:07
rexbronkitche: should i possibly file a bug?10:07
jendaantares79: thx10:07
Tyk0sokey, thx i try it out :)10:07
Adept2point0sorry wrong clipboard10:07
xMorphixTyk0s: yeah bootable data won't auto boot up10:07
sivikAdept2point0, to get back, startx10:07
Adept2point0o.O10:07
xMorphixTyk0s: Let me know10:08
Adept2point0startx at the command only screen?10:08
Jack_SparrowI need to look up the difference..  DO you have more than 1 user defined10:08
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sivikAdept2point0, yes10:08
Bordochthanks anyway - regards10:08
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Adept2point0won't it just put me back at the log in, and after trying to logging in, put me back to the command only?10:08
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Adept2point0or startx runs the desktop10:08
sivikAdept2point0, it shouldn't if you have everything installed correctly10:08
sivikAdept2point0, startx should start the desktop10:09
Adept2point0so uhhh just type startx?10:09
Adept2point0seems too simple10:09
Adept2point0lol brb, and thanks a lot sivik10:09
kjmReinH - it just stores config stuff (like for X11, apt, samba sshd etc.).  So, if needing a reinstall - you don't need to reconfig all of that stuff.  Mine is 16 MB right now, I partitioned it for 200 MB.10:09
sivikAdept2point0, yw10:09
ReinHkjm: gotcha, sounds like a good idea :)10:09
kjmReinH - i mean /etc has about 16 MB of data.  It is pretty much all text files.10:09
ReinHkjm: I would assume you aren't dual booting?10:10
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sivikhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2490710:10
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jdahmI have a problem with my gnome desktop, the mouse keeps randomly disappearing, mostly on startup10:10
Tyk0sxMorphix, burning new cd atm. gonna try it out & tell if it worked or not :P10:10
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kjmI am - Set up a extended parition for linux.  So, I have 2 primary partitions, and 1 extended one.  The extended partition is then partitioned into /etc/ /swap and /home.  Primary hda1 is windows and hda2 is /10:11
antares79thanks, sivik10:11
sivikantares79, thanks for what?10:11
Paddy_EIREJack_Sparrow: i replaced all entries "with" the ntfs FS to fmask=0111,dmask=0000 is this correct, ps the original numbers are the only things i have changed10:11
sivikantares79, for giving you that url?10:11
sivikkjm: whats the problem10:11
kjmReinH - it is a little more difficult to set up initially - but, I think it pays off in the end.10:11
sivikTyk0s, are you burning it as in image10:11
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Tyk0syes10:11
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kjmsivik - nothing - sorry - forgot to put persons name in front......was a response10:12
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antares79sivik, please run "locale -a" in a console and check whether it says en_US.utf8 somewhere10:12
sivikkjm: ok10:12
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Tyk0sDisc Image works fine?10:13
sivikTyk0s, yes10:13
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: gksudo nautilus and see if you can browse to them10:13
Paddy_EIREk10:13
Tyk0sgreat then im done :) brb trying it :)10:13
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sivikantares79, paste.ubuntu-ul.org/2490810:14
ReinHkjm: and how big is your /swap partition? (and that's it for my questions for now, I believe) :)10:14
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asdhello all, at our school we have ~900 kids. How can I put them all in the group audio and pmount, without having to write all the names in /etc/group?10:14
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ReinHkjm: oh, one more: what tool do you use to partition?10:14
antares79thanks, sivik10:14
kjmReinH - 1 GB - good rule of thumb is 1.5 x Physical ram.10:14
jendaReinH: gparted is the best tool, IMO10:15
sivikkjm: yeah, thats smart10:15
kjmReinH - I use gparted10:15
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sivikkjm: i use 2 x but thats just me10:15
Paddy_EIREJack_Sparrow: yes, I can browse them with gksudo nautilus although not as myself10:15
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ReinH:)10:15
jendaI'm off, will be back (hopefully)10:15
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Jack_SparrowOk at least you can pull what you need...10:15
ReinHthis box has 512MB, so 1GB is no problem.10:15
sivikReinH, thats good10:15
ReinHI'm actually planning on getting rid of windows on this box permanently once my laptop arrives (yay) :D10:16
antares79sivik... it complains about LC_COLLATE, yet you don't specify it explicitly anymore... except maybe in your ~/.bash_profile or something10:16
jendaOh one more thing... what is the current easiest way of reinstalling grub/restoring MBR after a Win2k install?10:16
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ReinHand I would put linux on it if I didn't want to play games :p10:16
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antares79can you please run "set | grep LC_"? thanks10:16
kjmReinH - yup.  2 of my machines are windowless.  It's just a shame that I need DirectX to shoot people when I'm in the mood :)10:16
SurfnKidcan anyone help me setting a specific extension on firefox?10:16
ReinHkjm: indeed10:16
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Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: Back to work for me..  play nice..10:16
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Paddy_EIREJack_Sparrow: nice one :) ...when  i do get what I want copied over fill formatting the drive be simple? and what fs type should i use..not ntfs anyway10:17
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sivik_antares79, LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-810:17
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ReinHI see no reason to have windows on a dev box -- and a lot of reasons not to10:17
Paddy_EIRE*will10:17
antares79sivik: nothing else, just that one line?10:17
sivik_yes10:17
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: I dual boot so I have a fat32 to share..10:17
antares79that's good10:17
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: Depends on your needs10:17
ReinHI really appreciate having such a supportive community, by the way :) makes me more confident in my choice of distro10:17
Paddy_EIREJack_Sparrow: i have a SimplyMepis DVD that i would like to dual boot an try also10:17
ReinHcheers, folks, I'll be back once I get it up and running10:17
sivik_ReinH, good for you10:17
SurfnKidThe RTSP extension (Real Player Streaming Protocol) when i click on the link, it says firefox doesnt have an associated program with it, so when i go to the View & Actions option, i cant find the extension to assign a program10:18
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sivik_ReinH, and good luck with making a good choice10:18
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Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: Mepis 6.0?10:18
kjmReinH - good luck with it - see you in a few10:18
ReinHsivik_ ;)10:18
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Paddy_EIREJack_Sparrow: yep10:18
Paddy_EIREJack_Sparrow: from linux magazine10:18
Adept2point0sivik: no luck, server error  something like fatal error 11 and aborted it10:18
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Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: You'll like it, I ran a Mepis box for years, I am always hanging in there, but the support is non-existent10:18
sivik_Adept2point0, that means you have to edit the xorg.conf file10:18
jendaRestoring MBR after windows install - anyone?10:18
antares79sivik, please run "sudo locale-gen"10:18
tkfui'm trying to unmount a samba share that i mounted using smbmount, but umount says "the volume appears to be mounted multiple times"10:18
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antares79what does it say about en_US.UTF-8?10:19
tkfuand mtab confirms that's the case10:19
runes2006is there a command to get ubuntu to redetect all hardware?10:19
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Jack_Sparrow!grub10:19
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto10:19
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tkfuhow do i unmount?10:19
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ReinHkjm: do you use gparted from a live cd?10:19
sivik_antares79, it just said up-to-date and then generation complete10:19
SurfnKidwhats the firefox channel for help10:19
jendaReinH: I just did. It's preinstalled there.10:19
Adept2point0whats the command to edit the xorg.conf file?10:19
Adept2point0and just what am i looking for10:19
kjmReinH - ya - I always have a copy of Knoppix kicking around.10:19
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ReinHkjm :)10:19
Paddy_EIREJack_Sparrow: thx for the head start, gonna try Mepis and see what I think... I also have OpenSuse 10.1 and the latest freespire so I should have fun10:19
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kjmReinH - but, it is on the live CD install.10:19
boitonofirefox crashes at random times with latest flash player installed from adobe, is there a known solution to this?10:19
antares79ok, sivik, so your locales are actually fine10:19
Adept2point0nvm, i think i got it10:20
Paddy_EIRE:) , have fun10:20
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: You know where to find me..10:20
kjmReinH  - just select the "Manually edit partition table"10:20
tkfuanyone help me on how to unmount this thing?10:20
Jack_Sparrowcya10:20
Paddy_EIREyep10:20
sivik_antares79, yeah, so why am i still getting that error10:20
antares79there's only one thing left that comes to my mind10:20
runes2006www.google.ca10:20
runes2006oops10:20
sivik_tkfu sudo umount /hardware/folderlocation10:20
tkfuthanks sivik_, but as i said, it's somehow mounted multiple times, so umount chokes10:20
sivik_how do i tell linux which .dm to use10:20
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sivik_tkfu: what is it?10:21
sivik_tkfu: what type of device10:21
antares79sivik, sorry, at this point i don't have a clue... everything looks fine, except for the error message10:21
sivik_nvm, found it10:21
tkfuit's a samba share10:21
sivik_antares79, ok10:21
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wolssivik_: under "options" in gdm for example10:21
ReinHI think I'm going to make a gparted live CD, sounds nice to have around10:21
sivik_antares79, thanks for the help10:21
sivik_wols: i found it10:21
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briankdoes anyone know how to get omnifunc to work in VIM 7, I'm getting: E764: Option 'omnifunc' is not set10:21
Iam8up|lpyis there a way to install php4 via apt-get? all i get is php5 and i absolutly have to have 410:21
antares79np, sivik. sorry10:22
boitonofirefox crashes at random times with latest flash player installed from adobe, is there a known solution to this?10:22
sivik_Iam8up|lpy, do a apt-cache search php410:22
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Iam8up|lpyReinH - a LOT10:22
kjmReinH - has saved my bacon on numerous occasion.  ALthough - you can mount your physical drive from the Ubuntu install cd and run gparted10:22
sivik_Iam8up|lpy, and then do something along the lines of apt-get install php4-xxxxxx10:22
ReinHah10:22
Iam8up|lpysivik_ - jluthman@simba:~$ sudo apt-cache search php410:23
Iam8up|lpyapache2-prefork-dev - development headers for apache210:23
kjmBut a gparted live cd is "specialized" for it - and easier to use (IMHO)10:23
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Iam8up|lpysivik_ - i did an update just before i did that command, too...should i add/uncomment a server to get php4?10:24
sivik_Iam8up|lpy, not sure10:24
tkfufor anyone interested, i solved my problem by doing sudo umount -a -t smbfs10:24
sivik_Iam8up|lpy, not sure, i don't do anything with php4, go to wiki.ubuntu.com and type php410:24
sivik_tkfu: good for you10:24
tkfuthat got around the hiccup umount was having trying to figure out which instance to unmount10:24
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Ychis there something allready integrated into ubuntu so i can save cds or dvds as isos?10:25
rexbroncan anyone identify whats wrong I get this when i rn glxgears10:25
rexbronglxgears: intel_ioctl.c:62: intelEmitIrqLocked: Assertion `((*(int *)intel->driHwLock) & ~0x40000000U) == (0x80000000U|intel->hHWContext)' failed.10:26
rexbronAborted10:26
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boitonoYch, dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/noob/dvd.iso10:26
sivik_rexbron, you probably don't have your drivers installed correctly10:26
rexbronhmm10:26
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WinterWeaver!ntfs10:27
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse10:27
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rexbronsilvk_: I have an i915, the only change I have made recently is to reinstal meda10:27
rexbronmesa10:27
runes2006I've upgraded my machine but the motherboard and cpu are completely different from the original  how do I get ubuntu to redetect the new hardware?10:27
sivik_rexbron, then you haven't gotten the configuration correct yet10:27
WinterWeaver1fuse10:28
WinterWeaver!fuse10:28
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse10:28
sivik_rexbron, not sure what to do, i don't have intel10:28
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rexbronsilvk_: where is mesa configured? xorg.conf10:28
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boitonofirefox crashes at random times with latest flash player installed from adobe, is there a known solution to this?10:28
UCGDoes anyone here run zabbix???10:28
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sivik_rexbron, yes10:28
rexbronbrb10:29
kjmbiotono - uninstall flash will be a solution.10:29
xMorphixsivik: people on #ubuntu-offtopic are mean :(10:29
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sivik_xMorphix, i'm sorry, do you have another problem10:29
boitonokjm, is there an alvertative to flash?10:29
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kjmboitono - nope.10:29
wolsboitono: no10:29
boitonothen that is not a solution10:30
xMorphixsivik: well i'm so new to linux, and I used ubuntu as my starting point10:30
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canuteHi there, I was trying to install gnomad2, but then some error came up and it says that i should do "sudo apt-get -f install" however that also gives me an errror: http://pastebin.ca/18333010:30
Ychboitono, thankx10:30
sivik_xMorphix, good choice10:30
xMorphixsivik: whats my best bet to start learning the inner workings of linux10:30
knoppix_i am new to knoppix just wanted to say hi but i have to go so i can keep learning10:30
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wolsxMorphix: not using Ubuntu (seriously)10:30
Ychboitono, nice home directory ;)10:30
sivik_xMorphix, what do you mean by the inner working of linux?  like how it actually works or what?10:30
kjmboitono - it would stop the random crashes - hence a solution.  The new flash from Adobe is a hunk of garbage IMHO10:30
boitonoYch, you're welcome, I do what I can to lighten the mood ;-)10:31
sivik_kjm: thats true10:31
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xMorphixsivik: yeah, just all the commands in terminal10:31
wolsxMorphix: Ubuntu is a "just works" distro where tasks are done for you. you don't learn much this way. use several different distros, don't use wizards to configure them, edit config files. break lots of things, doe a LFS install (linux from scratch), etc10:31
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ReinHone more question, what's the current relationship between ubuntu and debian sid?10:31
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briank I still can't get this to work, I'm in vim 7 and it says: E764: Option 'omnifunc' is not set when I hit Ctrl-x Ctrl-o, I am new to vim, can somebody help?10:31
wolsxMorphix: console command reference is not learning the inner workings10:31
xMorphixwols: yeah, I have a few I am going to work around with10:32
skoenmanhey people10:32
ReinHbriank: /join #vim :)10:32
xMorphixwols: I know, i just like learning a little bit at a time10:32
skoenmandoes anybody know of a book i can download for ubuntu so i dont have to bug you guys the whole time???10:32
wolsxMorphix: I gave you some pointers what to do10:32
sivik_wols; thats what i do, i'm break alot of stuff10:32
kjmskoenman - now that's no fun.10:32
xMorphixwols: I know, i'll use em thanks10:32
skoenmanlol10:32
wolsskoenman: ubuntu manual. and use google a lot with keyword "ubuntu"10:33
Dr_willisskoenman,  the ubuntu homepage has guides  - and theres always google. and tldp.org10:33
xMorphixsivik: linux is such a change from windows10:33
sivik_wols: yeah10:33
sivik_Dr_willis, what is tldp.org10:33
wolssivik_: but you ask here to fix it. you need to fix it on your own10:33
xMorphixsivik: whole new world10:33
Somniisskoenman: www.ubuntuguide.org10:33
kjmskoeman: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/28210:33
xMorphixwols: that's what this channel is for10:33
Dr_willissivik_,  go there and find out.10:33
sivik_wols: actually, normally when i ask in here, i have already tried a bunch of stuff and searched around10:33
wolssivik_: the linux documentation project. can you just go there10:33
rexbronsilvk_: its not giving me the error anymore, but performance in guild wars (with wine is really bad) Like it can not load the opening screen before having to refresh10:33
skoenmank10:33
xMorphixwols: isn't it?10:33
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wolsxMorphix: it is, but it's not good if you ewant to learn...10:33
sivik_Dr_willis, cool10:33
xMorphixTyk0s: How did it work out for you?10:33
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Tyk0sIt worked fine :) thx for help :>10:34
wolsxMorphix: no good when then others solve your problems.10:34
xMorphixwols: that is true10:34
sivik_xMorphix, very much so10:34
skoenmank cool10:34
xMorphixwols: linux right now for me, is like trying to read hebrew10:34
runesis there a way to force ubuntu to redetect all hardware?10:34
sivik_xMorphix, the best way to learn, is just to play with it10:34
xMorphixTyk0s: Nice, so it booted up10:34
Tyk0schecked around a little bit :) seems really nice :D im windows user atm. but thinking on to try out linux for a while.. ubuntu good for beginners?10:34
wolsrunes: do you have problems?10:35
xMorphixTyk0s: It is very user friendly10:35
runeswols, i swapped motherboard the only thing the same in this machine is the drive10:35
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Tyk0sokok :) i'm a gamer aswell.. does world of warcraft, counter strike, warcraft 3 work fine threw Wine?10:35
runeswols, but the system did not redetect on boot10:36
sivik_runes, then it probably already regonized and did what it needed to for the new h/w10:36
wolsrunes: I didn't ask you that. I asked you: are there any psecific problems?10:36
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Tyk0sthrew,with take it as u wish :)10:36
sivik_Tyk0s, go to www.winehq.com and look there and you could always try cedege10:36
runeswols major slow downs10:36
wolsTyk0s: appdb.winehq.com10:36
Tyk0shmm okey10:36
wolsrunes: of what? disk access?10:36
sivik_Tyk0s, wow works well with wine and there is a linux native for cs10:36
runeswols yes10:36
wolsTyk0s: and no, you won't be happy in linx as a gamer. stay in windows10:36
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Tyk0sokey that's good.10:37
runeswols also video res too low10:37
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wolsfor the vidoe: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:37
sivik_Tyk0s, thats why you dual boot10:37
wolsdisk would be busmaster dma10:37
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Tyk0shehe okey.10:37
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runeswols bios enabed not sure in os though10:37
wolsrunes: dmesg will tell: "BM-DMA" usually10:38
Tyk0sso it slows down the computer even more with wine?10:38
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sivik_Tyk0s, no, not always, i know ppl that say WoW runs better with wine than in windows10:38
Tyk0shmm okey. i mainly play wow so10:38
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runeswols vfs: busy inodes on changed media10:39
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wolsrunes: huh?10:39
sivik_Tyk0s, i know like 4 ppl that play wow in linux and still dual boot and they just run in linux because it runs better, can't say that would be true with you, just what i have heard throught the grapevine10:39
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wolsTyk0s: what videocard do you have?10:39
runeswols that is the message that scrolls off the screen when I run dmesg10:40
Sivikrunes: yes, but the stuff that matters, that happened recently, happen at the bottom10:40
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wolsrunes: dmesg|less10:40
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Tyk0sgot like 15-20fps on my computer :/ my computer: cpu: Intel Pentium 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2991MHz), mem: 1024MB, gfx: NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT10:40
wolsSivik: wrong in this case10:40
SivikTyk0s, nice card10:40
serapiohola10:40
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darkanyelhola10:40
Sivikwols: what case?10:40
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serapiohola10:41
LoRezWarning: `darkanyel,serapio' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.10:41
wolsrunes's case10:41
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runeswols and Sivik  exact same message10:41
ladydoor!es10:41
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:41
Tyk0ssome of my friends doesnt have that good computer that i have but they have more fps then i can't understand it10:41
serapiothank10:41
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Sivikwols: what case are you referring to10:41
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wolsSivik: if he has busmaster dMA on his harddisks10:41
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Sivikwols: i never said anything about busmaster dma or anything10:42
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Sivikwols: i was just telling him that i know ppl that say WoW runs better in linux than in windows10:42
wols Sivik> runes: yes, but the stuff that matters, that happened recently, happen at the bottom <- that's what you said. and for people looking at BM-DMA this is WRONG.10:42
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wolsSivik: and runes isn't trying to run WoW10:42
runeswols and Sivik nope same message all the way to the <end>10:43
CrimsonKingI've locked myself out of a remote (server) box, but am able to execute commands under the web server user.10:43
Sivikwols: i don't remember sending runes a message10:43
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wolsrunes: you use the command wrong. dmesg | less10:43
CrimsonKingdoes anyone know of a way to edit the inetd.conf file as the web user?10:43
CrimsonKingI have the root password and whatnot10:43
UKMatthey, does anyone know a link that shows you how to install a .tar.gz10:43
CrimsonKingbut its a default webuser setup10:43
wolsSivik: then scroll up10:43
runessec10:43
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wolsCrimsonKing: why would you do that?10:43
Sivikwols: all i was talking about that new stuff that happens in the dmesg is at the bottem, i didn't know he was talking about the dm stuff10:44
CrimsonKingwols: because I've messed up my inetd.conf10:44
bimberiCrimsonKing: 'su -' and the root password will get you a root login shell10:44
lupine_85su root if you have the root passsword10:44
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ladydoorUKMatt: are you trying to install a program from source?10:44
CrimsonKingnot realizing it ran my sshd, i've ran it to localhost10:44
runeswols, nope exactly as shown with a space betwween the commang and argument10:44
Justy-hello10:44
wolsCrimsonKing: unfortunate but what has that to do with the "web user"?10:44
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Siviksorry if i screwed up, i'm just trying to help10:44
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Tyk0shard to configure wine then?10:44
CrimsonKingwols: because i have a php script10:44
UKMattladydoor, mmm, i don't think it's the source code, but it's a tarball10:44
wolsrunes: what do you press for the "|" ?10:44
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CrimsonKingwols: that i can run system() command with10:44
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Justy-question: how can i copy "a folder with its subfolders and subfiles" to somewhere10:45
SivikTyk0s, ?10:45
ladydoorUKMatt: ??? is it a binary package then? if so, there should be instructions on the websit...10:45
ladydoor*website10:45
CrimsonKingi've tried echo mypassword | sudo -S su, but it won't take the password10:45
wolsCrimsonKing: you can't10:45
lupine_85Justy: cp -a10:45
wolsCrimsonKing: can't you log in?10:45
Justy-lupine_85, thanks10:45
Tyk0sSivik, how does it work then? load the .exe file in ure wow dic?10:45
CrimsonKingwols: no, my sshd has been locked down to localhost alone10:45
Tyk0sdir*10:45
SivikTyk0s, wine /location/of/setup.exe10:45
runeswols lspci shows the controllers correctly10:45
wolsCrimsonKing: what good does a sshd for localhost?10:46
wolsrunes: what do you press for the "|" ?10:46
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CrimsonKingwols: exactly dude10:46
Sivikwols: how do i change hat port ssh uses10:46
CrimsonKingwols: so i need to fix my hosts.allow10:46
wolsrunes: the command would display one screen of dmesg output at a time10:46
CrimsonKingwols: so i need to fix my hosts.allow from my web user account10:46
ladydoorwols: it should be above the backslash on american english keyboards, i think10:46
runeswols [17503394.324000]  VFS: busy inodes on changed media.10:47
wolsSivik: /etc/ssh/sshd_config IIRC10:47
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Sivikwols: the school seems to have blocked port 22 but they haven't blocked port 80 yet, i will just move my ssh to that port10:47
wolsCrimsonKing: another root only file10:47
runeswols I am not using the separated pipe10:47
CrimsonKingwols: right, so all i need to do is gain access and edit the file in one command10:47
wolsfyrestrtr: you could maybe search for a cgi or php based "shell" which works via webbrowser10:47
CrimsonKingwols: from the web user account10:47
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runeswols I am using the |10:47
darkanyelhow can i erease all the programs that i installed in ubuntu and return to the default configuration???10:47
CrimsonKingwols: its not like i don't have the root password10:48
fredrikhi10:48
SivikCrimsonKing, if you need to edit a root only file, start the computer into the recovery console from the grub menu10:48
wolsCrimsonKing: you ALWAYS need to give the password when doing sudo...10:48
CrimsonKingSivik: its about 2000 miles away10:48
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Justy-hello10:48
wolsCrimsonKing: and you can't enter that with system()10:48
SivikCrimsonKing, then you sudo su to be a root onto that machine10:48
ktogiasdarkanyel, why do you want to do such a thing?10:48
CrimsonKingwols: if my www-data user could sudo i could do it10:48
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fredrikcan someone tell me how to configure my wireless pc card please10:48
SivikCrimsonKing, or you can sudo whateveryouaredoing and then use the password10:48
Justy-question: how can i chmod a folder with its subfolders and subfiles?10:48
jozzephhello i have problems with my java10:48
wolsdarkanyel: reinstall10:48
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Sivikfredrik, what brand card?10:48
runeswols to the right side shift button there is the separated pipe when I hit shift and the key it gives me |10:48
jozzephspan.lev1 { display: block; cursor: pointer; cursor: hand; position: absolute; top: -10px; left: -10px; width: 200px; height: 100px;}10:48
darkanyelktogias, i think that i installed lots of stupid rhings10:48
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wolsJusty-: man chmod10:49
fredriknetgear wg511T10:49
jozzephwhats wrong with java and ubuntu?10:49
darkanyelktogias, i wanna restart all!!!10:49
Sivikfredrik, not sure10:49
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wolsrunes: ok, seems to be right, but then why wouldn't it use less?10:49
Justy-wols, naah thanks =( and sorry it is too late here10:49
wolsrunes: maybe try dmesg |grep BM10:49
CrimsonKingSivik: i'm doing this from a php script executing under the www-data10:49
runeswol good question it keeps saying that it is busy10:49
runesand yes I am su root10:49
jozzephproblems with java ever since fedora10:49
SivikCrimsonKing, not sure, i will shut up10:49
CrimsonKingsudo won't allow the www-data user to su10:49
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ktogiasdarkanyel, Having progs installed does not harm the system, except the space on the disk that they occupate...10:50
wolsrunes: wouldn't matter here10:50
runesoh ok10:50
jozzephsometimes my java works10:50
wolsrunes: WHAT is busy?10:50
jozzephthen suddenly java dont work anymore10:50
whaleyjozzeph: what is wrong with it?10:50
whaleywhat specifically10:50
wolsCrimsonKing: then su would10:50
fredriksivik, do you think it is a driver matter10:50
jozzephwhats wrong with java and ubunbtu/linuz...10:50
Sivikfredrik, not sure10:50
CrimsonKingwols: su's problem is it says 'it must be run from a terminal'10:51
whaleyjozzeph: are you using sun's jvm?10:51
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CrimsonKingwols: meaning i can't pass my password in through STDIN10:51
Sivikjozzeph, i don't have any problem with using the java plugin from apt-get10:51
jozzephi tried 2 different whaley10:51
fredrikok, is there any one else out there do u think10:51
wols!wireless > fredrik10:51
Sivikfredrik, probably10:51
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fredrikyes10:51
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darkanyelktogias,:S10:51
Sivikfredrik, chick the ubuntuforum.org i think is the url10:51
runeswols busy inodes on cahnged mesia10:51
jozzephi [;ay a java game 'runesca[e'10:51
whaleyjozzeph: which 2 jvm's, and what particular error(s) are you getting?10:51
jozzephi play a java game runsescape10:51
runeswols busy inodes on changed media10:51
darkanyelktogias, but is a way to do that?10:51
fredrikok thanks10:51
jozzepheh i will tell in a few10:52
fredrikwols, you seemed to have a clue, is it so10:52
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CSWookie_Hey folks.  I'm trying to install Dapper on my desktop computer, and it hangs when I try to set the keyboard layout.10:52
jozzephi think the best is jre2 as told in the unofficial guide10:53
CSWookie_Anybody heard of this problem?10:53
SivikCSWookie_, are you choosing the right one10:53
jozzephthe other is wrapper or something like that10:53
CSWookie_Sivik: I'm using the default, American English.10:53
SivikCSWookie_, not sure then10:53
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jozzephi have 1 java from easy ubuntu i think10:53
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wolsfredrik: check what chip that wifi card usesu (if it's via pci: lspci -v) and then check if ubuntu supports that chip10:53
ktogiasdarkanyel, I do not know if there is a way to automatically uninstall all the progs you have installed after the installation... But you can uninstall any specific prog you do not need anymore through synaptic or from console with apt-get remove10:53
jozzephand the other of dapper gyude10:53
jozzephguide10:53
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wolsfredrik: brand names like netgesr mean nothing10:54
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runeswols hdparm shows dma is on10:54
wolsrunes: busmaster dma. different thing. basically the proper driver for the ide chipset10:54
runeswols (I used the ubuntu guide to check that)10:54
Sivikjozzeph, at this poing of time, they might be interacting weird10:54
runeswols ok not sure about that one10:54
Sivikjozzeph, and that might cause a problem10:54
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fredrikwols, do i check the cip in the terminal10:54
wolsrunes: and: the media message thing is about remvable media like CDs. not harddisk10:54
jozzephshould i reinstall ubuntu for my java?10:54
CrimsonKingcan I use sudo to switch to another non-root user in ubuntu?10:55
wolsfredrik: I already told you. lspci10:55
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CrimsonKingwithout needing proper sudo su access10:55
runeswols ver weird10:55
wolsCrimsonKing: no10:55
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wolsrunes: what happens if you do "dmesg > output"10:55
darkanyelktogias, i tried to unistall cedega, but there are rests of that!10:55
SivikCrimsonKing, your using ssh right, you have to log in with that use to use a different one10:55
wolsrunes:  and then upload the file here:10:55
wols!paster10:55
jozzephwhy java worked at the beginning and then stopped without any change?10:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about paster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:56
wols!paste10:56
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:56
wolsto this paste url10:56
ucordesmaybe you will laugh about this problem, but when i try to put things in my personal folder icon on the desktop it says no such folder. but i can open it. how can i solve this?10:56
CrimsonKingSivik: dude you might have given me the answer10:56
jozzephi used the same things as before but java stopped suddenly10:56
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jozzephso why10:56
CrimsonKinglets see how php handles a php system call which ssh's to the localhost host as myself, runs a sudo which runs a command10:56
SivikCrimsonKing, yw10:56
runes!paste10:56
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:56
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Sivikjozzeph, have you upgraded anything recently?10:57
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ladydoorCrimsonKing: i think you can su to another user--just not, by default, root10:57
daxxarAnyone know if, after generating a lircd.conf from irrecord, I can teach it a single new button? (Same remote)10:57
jozzepheh upgrade didnt influence it10:57
CrimsonKingladydoor: can you verify that for me, maybe?10:57
CrimsonKing(please?)10:57
daxxarSeems like I have to run irrecord from scratch and reteach it everything.10:57
rfabrino2fala fi10:57
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CrimsonKingladydoor: i don't have any ubuntu boxes except for this server10:57
jozzephit helped when i restarted my browser sometimes10:57
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jozzephso thats strange isnt it10:58
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bthorntonHow is the data for all of the launchers in the GNOME menu stored on the disk?  Is it one file, or is it structured in directories with a file for each launcher?10:58
jozzephjava did work but not completely sometimes10:58
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jozzephnow it works too but i cannot fill in my username for the game10:59
ladydoorCrimsonKing: yup, it definitely works.10:59
bthorntonAnd, whether it's one file or a series of a directory, where is the data located?10:59
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jozzephi have a lot of error messages in java console10:59
CrimsonKingladydoor: ha! that is awesome, you are my hero.10:59
jozzephit seems java doesnt understand the mouse moving11:00
ladydoorCrimsonKing: why thank you! i've never been a hero just for doing a small favor, but that works i guess11:00
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Siviklol11:00
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jozzephon a text field11:00
wolsladydoor: su to another user without giving a password?11:00
ladydoorwols: you do have to give a password11:00
ladydoorCrimsonKing: you do have to give a password, though11:00
jozzephjava worked at first with mozilla11:00
wolsexactly11:00
ladydoorCrimsonKing: *that user's* password11:00
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ladydoorwols: oh, was that the question?11:01
ladydoorwols: whoops11:01
jozzephbut not with firefox11:01
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CrimsonKingladydoor: its fine, i have a password11:01
wolsladydoor: stuff with questionmarks at the end usually are11:01
jendaWhat is the best way to restore GRUB?11:01
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CrimsonKingladydoor: you did sudo su <usernamehere> right?11:01
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wolsCrimsonKing: how wil you enter that password?11:01
jozzephso i removed mozilla11:01
CrimsonKingsudo accepts -S11:01
ladydoorwols: no, i mean i was wondering if that was *his* password11:01
CrimsonKingwhcih takes input from standard input11:01
ladydoorCrimsonKing: no, just su username11:01
CrimsonKingugh11:01
ladydoorCrimsonKing: and then enter that user's password11:01
CrimsonKingyea that i can't do, evermind11:01
jozzephi will reinstall ubuntu for the 20th time11:01
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CrimsonKingsu needs its own terminal11:01
ladydoorCrimsonKing: why?11:02
jozzephand first remove mozilla11:02
CrimsonKingladydoor: because i don't actually have a terminal11:02
CrimsonKingall i have is a php script11:02
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jozzephthen install java11:02
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jozzephjre211:02
CrimsonKingwhich i can enter random system() commands in11:02
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jozzephmaybe it will work11:02
ladydoorCrimsonKing: well, let me try sudo su11:02
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CrimsonKingwhich means now i'm going to try ssh'ing to localhost with my password than sudo su'ing11:02
wolsladydoor: he has a server 2000miles away but removed remote ssh login11:02
CrimsonKingladydoor: aye, couldn't hurt11:02
ladydoorwols: wow11:02
CrimsonKingnot likely though11:02
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CrimsonKingsince i know how it works11:02
runeswols pastebin tells me no text given when I paste the results of the file11:02
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CrimsonKingi didn't know inetd powers ubuntu's sshd11:02
wolsrunes: how big is the file?11:03
CrimsonKingbut you can bet i do now11:03
wolsrunes: maybe check your kern.log instead11:03
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wolsrunes: or reboot and on bootup use dmesg |less11:03
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oi_2_filoihi any china girl?11:03
runeswols 12405211:03
whurleyanyone seen issues with Ubuntu server and installing on a dual proc box?11:03
Sh4d0xhi there new ubuntu user11:03
ladydoorCrimsonKing: you can use sudo su to become another user11:03
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jendaHow can I restore GRUB after a windows install?11:03
jozzephIE\:clientCaps {behavior:url(#default#clientcaps)}11:03
jozzephwhat does that mean?11:03
wols!grub > jenda11:04
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Sh4d0x!grub > jenda11:04
CrimsonKingladydoor: right, but my web user can't use sudo su to become root11:04
jendathx11:04
ladydoorCrimsonKing: right, but you can become another user with it...11:04
runeswols I though there was a way to force the kernel to redetect al hardware not sure what that command was11:04
CrimsonKingladydoor: even if you don't have the usual root privledges?11:04
jozzephand: span.lev1 { display: block; cursor: pointer; cursor: hand; position: absolute; top: -10px; left: -10px; width: 200px; height: 100px;}11:04
runesmodprobe?11:04
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jenda(and now... how do I switch tabs in irssi?)11:04
Neo8750alt+#11:04
ladydoorCrimsonKing: *shrug*. can you use sudo at all?11:04
CrimsonKingladydoor: not on this user.11:05
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jendaNeo8750: that switches the terminal tabs11:05
CrimsonKing(problably)11:05
Neo8750or ctrl +n/ctrl+p11:05
ladydoorjenda: or alt+n/alt+p11:05
wolsrunes: not the kernel11:05
jendaok11:05
ladydoorCrimsonKing: oh. :-(11:05
CrimsonKingi don't know what ubuntu's defaults are for the www-user11:05
jozzephand: .r1 td { background-color: #362D1A; font-weight; bold; }11:05
CrimsonKinghence here i am11:05
wolsrunes: man discover such perhaps11:05
jmitchjhaving a prob getting a commercial DVD to play...can anyone help?11:05
jozzephall marked as errors11:05
Neo8750jenda: you need to redo the terminal key binds or alter irssi's11:05
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wolsCrimsonKing: www-data probably11:05
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ladydoorjenda: are you on gnome-terminal or something?11:05
b_52Centosdo you know any game like quake3 under ubuntu ??11:05
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jozzephpffff11:06
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wolsCrimsonKing: and that user should not have a shell or a home directory afaik11:06
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CrimsonKingwols: i don't need either ;)11:06
Paddy_EIREhow would I unmount "/dev/hdb1 /dev/hdb2 /dev/hdb3" these are three ntfs partitions that I intend on formatting..11:06
ladydoorb_52Centos: do apt-cache search quake...i think you'll find something interesting...11:06
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wolsb_52Centos: Wolfenstein Enemy Territory is free11:06
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CrimsonKingI am going to see if the www-data can ssh to localhost11:06
CrimsonKingthat seems to be the best plan of attack right now11:06
CrimsonKingassuming i can pass a password to ssh on stdin11:06
NemesisUKb_52Centos, quake3 and 4 ut2004 loads of native linux games11:06
wolsPaddy_EIRE: umount /dev/hdb111:06
Paddy_EIREgreat11:07
jendaOK, thx. solved.11:07
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jmitchjhaving a prob getting a commercial DVD to play...can anyone help?11:07
b_52Centoswols,  do you know which miror i can find it ?11:07
ladydoor!repeat11:07
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience11:07
msivanichI just installed the phpmyadmin, what is the default username and password?11:07
ladydoor!codecs11:07
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:07
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runeswols going to try the reboot11:07
wolsb_52Centos: not part of ubuntu but just google it11:07
ladydoorjmitchj: ^^^11:07
wolsrunes: I will soon go to bed btw11:07
b_52Centoswols ok :d11:07
Paddy_EIREWould everyone recommend using "gksudo qtparted" for formatting drives11:08
runesok got it11:08
wolsPaddy_EIRE: no. I recommend the proper mkfs.* for thzat11:08
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Paddy_EIREwols: what do you mean11:08
wolsPaddy_EIRE: man mkfs.ext311:08
Paddy_EIREk11:09
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peace-keeperhi my ubuntu is about half as fast as win xp, and i think my kernel (2.6.15-27-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT) may be wrong for my cpu (athlon 500). where can i get another kernel ?11:09
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Paddy_EIREwols: is there no GUI way of doing this11:09
Sivikpeace-keeper, thats probably not a kernel issue11:09
Paddy_EIREwols: whay not qtparted11:09
Paddy_EIRE*why11:10
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peace-keeperhmm any idea what it could be? everything is terribly slow11:10
Sivikpeace-keeper, how much swap did you create?11:10
peace-keeperdont know, but i have 768mb ram11:10
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ladydoorPaddy_EIRE: because it's easier to give command-line instructions11:10
Lockeanyone have an idea how to get a mdf/mds to convert to iso when mdf2iso says unknown format11:11
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CrimsonKingfailure, can't stdin a password to ssh11:11
Lockei am pretty sure the file is good11:11
Sivikpeace-keeper, you should have made your swap about 1.5 - 2 times that of your ram11:11
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Lockeit successfully extracted from a rar i got from bittorrent11:11
CrimsonKingcan i set up some form of a ssh tunnel though, if i ssh into my home-box11:11
SivikCrimsonKing, you should be able to11:11
peace-keeperi didnt change sny swap setting during setup.. how can swap be an issue when i have a lot of ram ?11:11
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CrimsonKingSivik: except i'd need an account with no password on the remote box, since ssh can't prompt for a password11:12
peace-keeperoh i just found it.. i have 2gb swap11:12
CrimsonKingUGH11:12
Sivikok, then thats not a problem11:12
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SivikCrimsonKing, you can createa a user via ssh using the adduser command and you don't have to have a password11:12
Sivikwhen you create that user11:12
peace-keepereven changing directory takes a few seconds.. starting firefox almost a minute.. it's unusable :(11:13
CrimsonKingSivik: aye, thanks11:13
CrimsonKingwas doing tha tnow11:13
SivikCrimsonKing, yw11:13
Sivikpeace-keeper, not sure what to tell you, how big of a hd is it?11:13
msivanichwhats the default user name and password for /quit11:13
peace-keeper60 gb11:13
red_MarvinCan anybody tell me why my _old_ laptop sets a resolution that isn't listed at all in xorg.conf and how to fix it?11:13
Paddy_EIREladydoor: I personally would rather use a gui, what would be good to use11:13
peace-keepersomeone told me my kernel might be wrong11:14
Sivikpeace-keeper, did you add anything weird11:14
Justy-Good night all!11:14
peace-keepernot that i know of :D11:14
ladydoorPaddy_EIRE: gparted, if you *must* point-and-click rather than copy-and-paste11:14
Sivikpeace-keeper, not sure, you installed a i386 kernel right11:14
Sivikpeace-keeper, check man /proc/version11:14
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peace-keeperLinux version 2.6.15-27-k7 (buildd@terranova) (gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)) #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 02:35:20 UTC 200611:15
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Sivikthat shouldn't be an issue11:15
peace-keeperis k7 right for athlon 500 ?11:15
peace-keeperi know it's an old cpu, but still win xp is about twice as fast :(11:15
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ladydoorPaddy_EIRE: or qtparted, i guess11:15
Sivikpeace-keeper, not sure, i always just install the standard 2.6.15-2711:16
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wolsPaddy_EIRE: yes11:16
wolsPaddy_EIRE: probably BM DMA is not set. at least that's possibility11:16
peace-keeperis there a place where i can download another kernel to try that?11:16
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wolsPaddy_EIRE: also run "top" to see if something is eatme CPU11:16
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Sivikpeace-keeper, should be fine11:16
CrimsonKingugh, i can just see this ending with me getting kicked off of my home box too11:16
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Paddy_EIREladydoor: i deleted the first partition in qtparted and I have no option to delete the others?? gonna try gparted now11:17
SivikCrimsonKing, as long as your don't reboot or shutdown you should be fine11:17
CrimsonKingSivik: i'm not local on my home box either11:17
peace-keeperkay, then i have to stay with win xp :(11:17
CrimsonKingSivik: i'm at school11:17
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SivikCrimsonKing, so, as long as you don't shut it down or reboot it, you can always relogin to that machine via ssh11:18
exarkun/etc/security/limits.conf seems to be ignored.  I tried changed "nofile" to 8192 with it, but my limit is still 1024.  What am I missing?11:18
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CrimsonKingha!11:19
CrimsonKingi'm in anyways11:19
CrimsonKingwell my home machine11:19
CrimsonKingwith empty password11:19
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SivikCrimsonKing, then there shouldn't be a problem11:19
CrimsonKingSivik: the problem was I had to modify my sshd config to allow passwords, AND empty passwords11:19
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CrimsonKingwhich is what scared me11:19
Siviklol11:20
Siviki bet11:20
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whurleyany one out there running Ubuntu server on dual opterons?11:20
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CrimsonKingbecause THAT box has no monitor11:20
Sivikthat might be important11:20
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Sivikwhurley, good choice on cpus11:20
CrimsonKingso if i screw up my ssh on THAT box i have to fix it blind11:20
kalifCrimsonKing: empty passphrases is a better way to go11:20
whurleySivik: thanks, however I can't get the install cd to work11:20
whurley:)11:20
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CrimsonKingkalif: this is just temporary as I try and ssh tunnel a port from a php script to my box so i can see from localhost.11:20
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Paddy_EIREGParted Rocks11:20
Sivikwhurley, are you able to boot with it?11:20
hahafahaDoes anyone have any experience using Dapper LTS on Dell Latitude C600?11:21
kalifok11:21
xprment626does the ubuntu livecd support the bcm43xx series wireless cards by default?11:21
Sivikhahafaha, what are you trying to do?11:21
Sivikxprment626, no11:21
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Shadowpillarbrb11:21
Sivikxprment626, after you install it, you have to download the firmware11:21
hahafahaSivik, I have already installed it on the computer.11:21
CrimsonKingwhat am i trying to do?11:21
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Sivikhahafaha, ok, then whats the issue?11:21
whurleySivik: yes, it boots to the install option screens but freezes when trying to boot the kernel. I'm looking for boot options that might result in success, btu haven't found anything11:21
hahafahaSivik: it works fine but occasionally seems to overheat11:21
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xprment626Sivik, I want a CD that I can just use whenever I need it (LiveCD) without having to install anything :-(11:21
hahafahaSivik: I have heard that this is a common issue with the hardware. Is there a way to manually control the fan?11:22
Sivikxprment626, but you won't have wireless11:22
xMorphixxprment626: download one11:22
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xMorphixsivik: not like it matters, all wirless downloads at 210 b/s :P11:22
xMorphixwireless*11:22
wolsxprment626: no11:22
SivikxMorphix, no their not11:22
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xMorphixsivik: I know, lol11:22
xprment626I need wireless though ...11:22
hahafahaSivik: (or in any other way control power management by hand, so that it does not overheat?11:22
wolsxprment626: ndiswrapper11:23
xMorphixhahafaha: what is the question? fan control?11:23
Sivikhahafaha, are you using the stock fans?11:23
xprment626vols, yeah ,but then I need to create a custom livecd, etc.11:23
Tom39Awayhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/knot-3/edgy-alternate-i386.iso is 702M and I can't seem to burn it.  I get an error because it's larger than 700M.11:23
CrimsonKinganyone here an ssh tunnel wizzard?11:23
SivikTom39Away, are you burning as an iso imsage or a file11:23
wolsTom39Away: get a better burn program. use nero11:23
zjohnsonhow does one make a binary dpkg from a source dpkg?11:23
hahafahaxMorphix: Yes11:23
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Tom39Awaywols, I'm using Dapper's burner.11:24
hahafahaSivik: what do you mean?11:24
xMorphixhahafaha: What computer are you using?11:24
Tom39AwaySivik, I'm burning that ISO file to a CD.11:24
Sivikhahafaha, what fans are you using?11:24
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wolszjohnson: there are no "source dpkgs". the program to use is dpkg-buildpackage11:24
hahafahaxMorphix: Dell Latitutde C60011:24
SivikTom39Away, you have to tell the problem to burn as a image and not as a file11:24
zjohnsonwols: ok thanks..11:24
wolsTom39Away: look for overburn support11:24
Sivikhahafaha, the ones that came with the cpus or what?11:24
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mo^whats the command to minimize all windows? (in xfce)11:24
hahafahaSivik: Yes11:24
hahafahaSivik: The ones that are built into the compy11:24
Tom39Awaywols, that's what I'm doing here.11:24
habeebI'm getting a really cool problem :P I can see fglrx and direct rendering working alright, when running fglrxinfo and glxinfo as root, but they would give me errors as the normal user.11:24
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habeebErrors like these:11:25
habeeblibGL error: failed to open DRM: Operation not permitted11:25
habeeblibGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering11:25
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Sivikhahafaha, you might want to try to get some better fans and see if that helps, i don't think its a control of the speed that you can control11:25
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Sivikhahafaha, stock fans suck11:25
Sivikzjohnson, apt-get source filename11:25
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wolsSivik: newer intel mbos can. some amd ones too11:25
hahafahaSivik: OK, thanks.11:25
whitedethoh god, someone please help me play MP3s through Rhytmbox? :(11:25
wolsSivik: eg. mne (AN7 Abit)11:25
ladydoor!codecs11:26
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Tom39AwaySivik, how do I tell a problem to burn as an image?  I'm right clicking on the ISO file in Nautilis and selecting "Write to Disc".11:26
Sivikwols: i understand that11:26
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zjohnsonsiv: awesome11:26
BladesonfireCan anyone help me with a WPA problem I'm having? I can connect to a D-link router using WPA-PSK at home, but not a Belkin router11:26
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SivikTom39Away, download k3b and tell it to burn an image, that just copies the actual file over11:26
lcohengood afternoon all, I have a KitchenSync-Opensync issue, I am syncing with a SyncML server, I setup everything as mest I could, I hit sync now and I get connected with my Evolution plugin, but the SyncML does not leave 'Ready' any thoughts?11:26
BladesonfireIf I turn WPA encryption off on the Belkin router, I can then connect11:26
BladesonfireI'm using IPW2200 and networkmanager to connect11:26
Tom39AwayBut I don't want the ISO file on the disc, I want the uncompressed files.11:26
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lewix ive unplugged my headphones and I can't hear any sound on my speaker now11:27
SivikTom39Away, that what happens when you burn it as an image11:27
lewixi don't know what's going on11:27
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teenprogrammerHi11:27
lcohenBladesonfire: I continue to have issues with WPA and Ubuntu, sometimes it may take 2 or 3 times to connect....11:27
xMorphixlewix: I am always lost11:27
Tom39AwaySo Dapper can't natively burn ISO files to discs?  I have to install additional software, this "k3b" you mention?11:27
wolsSivik: you do know that a latitude is a notebook? ever changed fans on those?11:27
SivikxMorphix, lol11:27
xMorphixlewix: so whats the problem?11:27
s_v_e_n!codecs11:27
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lewixxMorphix, I don't know11:27
Bladesonfirelcohen, thanks, but I've never been able to connect to this router when encryption is on11:27
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ladydoorTom39Away: or bashburn...11:27
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Sivikwols: then how is he running dual opterons on a laptop?11:27
lewixxMorphix, Im trying to listen to some music11:28
BladesonfireWould you know if using ndiswrapper would help my situation?11:28
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ladydoorTom39Away: and it *can* do it natively--via the commandline11:28
lewixxMorphix, that's it11:28
xMorphixlewix: did you restart your computer?11:28
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lewixdo i have to ?11:28
lcohenI don't think so, if you have IPW2200, then you shouldn't need the wrapper11:28
lewixdamnnnnnnnnnnnnn11:28
xMorphixladydoor: when did you sneak in?11:28
lewixlinux sucks somewhat11:28
lcohenlinux and wpa are not the best of friends11:28
Tom39Awayladydoor, what program does Nautilis use on the Right Click --> Write to Disc option?11:28
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Siviklewix, then don't use it11:28
PWilllewix: nuh-uh11:28
BladesonfireThat's what I was thinking... I can't find anything on Google why I wouldn't be able to connect to this Belkin router11:28
lcohendoes teh Belkin support WPA211:28
wolsSivik: dual opterons on a dell? you are dreaming and hahahfa never said that. all he said latitude C60011:28
lewixSivik, PWill : i said somewhat11:29
Sivikwols: then who said something about dual opterons11:29
lewixSivik, PWill : its not the perfect operating system obviously11:29
lcohenI was reading somewhere the success rate is highewr with WPA211:29
Sivikwols: i may have accentily written that to the wrong person11:29
PWilllewix: well, linux supports more hardware than any other kernel. i think you're mistaken11:29
wolsSivik: I dunno who did, he didn't and you berated him cause of his fans, which is a stupid thing to do11:29
BladesonfireThe only options in the router administration is just WPA-PSK and a WPA Radius server11:29
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BladesonfireI'll give it a go, though11:29
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ladydoorTom39Away: i don't know, i eschew the use of graphical programs whenever possible. sorry11:29
xMorphixno need for a OS war11:29
BladesonfireThanks for your help, lcohen11:29
Sivikwols: i didn't berate anyone11:29
ladydoorxMorphix: i never logged out, though i did leave--very tricky :-)11:29
Tom39Awayladydoor, thanks anyway11:29
lewixPWill, windows is better if we're talking about hardware11:29
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Sivikwols: if it came accross that way, i'm sorry11:30
ladydoorTom39Away: np...sorry i couldn't be of more help11:30
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xMorphixladydoor: :P11:30
lcohenno problem, sorry I can't give you more, it can take two or three times for knetworkmanager to connect to my WPA router11:30
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PWilllewix: i hope that was sarcasm...11:30
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mwethat's the worst crap I've heard in a while11:30
xMorphixPWill: lol11:30
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wolsPWill: he's right cause there is no hardware that is not supported by Windows... while there is under linux some11:30
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kbshi. how to add my native language to kubuntu? i can choose only between brititsh and american english11:31
wols!locales > kbs11:31
xMorphixkbs: what's your native language?11:31
lupine_85hehe11:31
lupine_85some hardware performs better under linux than windows; some vice-versa. It's not a big deal11:31
lcohenanyone have any idea with my KitchenSync/OpenSync issue?11:31
kbswols - thanks11:31
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mwegeez11:31
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PWillwols: that's inaccurate. i've never had a printer that worked out-of-the box on windows11:32
boabstadoes anyone know how i would go about making my fonts bigger - after the last update they have all gone really small - even at the login box11:32
PWillboabsta: in system > preference > fonts11:33
CrimsonKingokay!11:33
PWillyou can change the DPI, size, all that jazz11:33
CrimsonKingssh tunnel command is ready11:33
CrimsonKingtested on laptop/homebox11:33
georgymal : je regarde11:33
CrimsonKingif i can create an ssh tunnel from a php script11:33
CrimsonKingi will be in11:33
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PWillCrimsonKing: what are you trying to tunnel into? i just got here...11:34
mweYou can I think11:34
CrimsonKingPWill: don't ask.11:34
PWillheh11:34
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CrimsonKingit starts with me being an idiot11:34
CrimsonKingand locking down my hosts.allow11:34
PWillhaha!11:34
PWillnice move...11:34
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CrimsonKingyea11:34
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CrimsonKingdidn't know ubuntu ran sshd through there, wasn't paying attention11:35
CrimsonKinganyways, i now have access to the box via a php script11:35
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CrimsonKingand if i can set up an ssh tunnel from the php script to my home box on a nopassword account11:35
CrimsonKingi should be able to forward the ssh from the home box and ssh in as if it were localhost11:35
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undriedseaHey, does anyone know how to load the accraid driver?11:35
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undriedseaI am trying to install on a dell power edge and need to use the obarod RAID11:36
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CrimsonKinghere goes balls11:36
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PWillgood luck11:37
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CrimsonKingthanks11:37
CrimsonKingthe only thing i need to do is auto-accept that known-hosts warning11:37
CrimsonKingasking me if it wants to add11:37
CrimsonKingi can't risk hanging the script11:37
undriedseaDoes anyone know how to load the aacraid driver during an ubuntu install?11:37
kannanhello all, will the ubuntu-64amd-server-install iso run on IBM x226 series server ? Pl adive, thanks a lot in advance11:37
PWillyeah. if it doesn't work, have fun reinstalling!11:37
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Beawolfefairly new NOOB here to Ubuntu and have a few questions if possible that someone can help me with11:38
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PWill!ask11:38
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:38
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Sh4d0x! ati11:38
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:38
CrescendoIs there any fix to the sound card being locked, as in XMMS stealing audio from Flash in Firefox?11:38
kbsi can`t find localeconf in Adept11:38
undriedseaDoes anyone know how to load the aacraid driver during an ubuntu install?11:38
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BladesonfireNo luck using WPA2 =/11:38
CrescendoPerhaps making sound playable on multiple devices.11:38
lampshadeBladesonfire: you using network manager?11:39
Beawolfeis it possible to run both Gnome and KDE in ubuntu and be able to switch between the 2?11:39
PWillCrescendo: try install alsa-oss from the archives11:39
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lampshadeBladesonfire: the extra little program you get in the repos11:39
lampshadeBeawolfe: yes absolutely11:39
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kannanhello all, will the ubuntu-64amd-server-install iso run on IBM x226 series server ? Pl adive, thanks a lot in advance (sorry to repeat)11:40
BladesonfireYeah, I'm using networkmanager11:40
undriedseaDoes anyone know how to load the aacraid driver during an ubuntu install?11:40
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PWillBladesonfire: what wireless chipset do you have?11:40
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lampshadeBladesonfire: that's odd, it does wpa beautifully for me.11:40
BladesonfireIt works to connect to a WPA-encrypted D-Link router and a none-encrypted Belkin router, but won't connect to the Belkin router when WPA is enabled11:41
BladesonfireIPW220011:41
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lampshadesame here11:41
jmitchjis it possible that I can't play commercial DVD on X86-64 system?11:41
lampshadehmm11:41
Bladesonfirelampshade, I know, it's just this one router... don't know why it's having problems with it11:41
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PWillBladesonfire: i have the same chipset, and WPA/2 works great11:41
Sivikjmitchj, what program and what do you mean by commercial DVD?11:41
ladydoorBeawolfe: yes, just install kubuntu-desktop and you *should* be able to select KDE from the GDM11:41
PWillBladesonfire: do you have both network-manager and network-manager-gnome installed?11:41
BladesonfireDo you guys know if Belkin behaves differently with the PSK sharing?11:41
jmitchjregular store bought DVD, with gxine11:42
Beawolfeokay...next question is if I install par 2 and unrar are the strictly command line proggies or can they be used in the gui of either Gnome or KDE?11:42
ladydoorBeawolfe: which is what you boot to, most likely11:42
BladesonfirePWill, yes, both are installed11:42
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lampshadeBladesonfire: yeah I'm a ipw person too and it works great  (I'm on it right now)  I would suggest restarting the machine, restarting the router and making sure the password for WPA is super correct.11:42
Sivikjmitchj, what is the error you get if you run gxine from terminal11:42
lampshadeBeawolfe: yes11:42
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PWillBladesonfire: have you reset things, just to be sure? (ie, router, computer)11:42
Sivikjmitchj, what disc is it11:42
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lampshadeBeawolfe: at any time you can reach a terminal by ctrl+alt+F# or by just opening up a terminal inside.  I Have gnome-terminal open right now11:43
CrescendoPWill - can I just sudo apt-get install also-foss?11:43
BladesonfireTo both: I have restarted both before (first the router, then my computer)11:43
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PWillCrescendo: run "sudo apt-get install alsa-oss"11:43
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BladesonfireI've showed the password when typing it in, so that is also correct11:43
PWillwhen it is done, let me know, and I'll walk you through th next step11:43
BladesonfireI just don't get it =/11:43
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jmitchjLOR11:44
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BladesonfireA friend suggested using ndiswrapper on the ipw drivers... would that be able to work?11:44
lampshadeno11:44
lampshadedon't do that11:44
PWillBladesonfire: are you sure the password on the router is correct? also, do you have MAC filtering on?11:44
Beawolfeif it is yes then how can I get it to work.............installed both and have d/led a few things and when I click on a par2 check file the system stutters and then nothing.....same thing with the unrar11:44
SivikBladesonfire, theres really no use for that since the kernel already handles that11:44
jmitchji'm new to Linux...so not a lot of knowledge yet11:44
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jmitchji've been trying to run gxine from Applications11:45
lampshadeI mean, the ipw drivers are good solid drivers that intel even helped make a little and ndiswrapper is like a hackish way/ last resort for drivers like that11:45
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jmitchjit just shuts down11:45
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PWillBladesonfire: if you have MAC filtering on, turn it off. IPW2200/0 doesn't support it.11:45
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BladesonfirePWill: Yes... the Belkin config page allows you to see the passphrase, as well. MAC filtering is on, but I had tried turning that off and no change in status11:45
zeeteri'm trying to install wine in ubuntu amd64 kernel11:45
zeeteranyone know if this is possible?11:45
PWilltry again, and restart the router and laptop11:45
Sivikzeeter, thats going to be extremely hard11:46
BladesonfirePWill: I'll turn off MAC filtering, but on my D-Link, I turned it on and it connects fine11:46
zeeterSivik  can you explain?11:46
zeeteri tried building from source11:46
zeeteri used instructions from winehq site11:46
BladesonfireI think it's because now Ubuntu is using wext?11:46
Sivikzeeter, you have to install support for 32-bit on the 64 bit kernel in order to run wine, wine isn't compiled for 64-bit11:46
lupine_85zeeter: 32bit chroot probably best11:46
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BladesonfireBut I'll reset the router now11:46
lampshadeBladesonfire: try looking in /var/log/messages too11:46
PWillCrescendo: were you able to install alsa-oss?11:47
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lampshadesee if there are any obvious big errors11:47
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zeeterhow can i do that?11:47
Jeeves_Mossall:  HELP!!!  I did something stupid and now I can't get the X server to load.  Any ideas on a rescue plan?11:47
BladesonfireOh, I thought nm only had logs in syslog11:47
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CrescendoPWill - I'm assisting a friend via messenger. >_<11:47
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zeeterhow do i install 32 bit support?11:47
BladesonfireThanks for the tip11:47
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zeeterany websites you can point me to11:47
zeeteror docs11:47
CrescendoPWill, she emphasizes that she thinks it installed.  Still a no go on FF audio.11:47
Sivikzeeter: you would have to search google for it, i'm not real sure how to do it, also try ubuntuforums.org and wiki.ubuntu.com11:47
peace-keeperrescue plan: insert winxp cd intro drive, reboot, follow instructions on screen11:47
PWillJeeves_Moss: did you backup xorg.conf?11:47
teenprogrammerh11:47
teenprogrammerhi11:47
georgyJeeves_Moss : try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:47
lupine_85zeeter: search the forum for 32 bit chroot11:47
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Jeeves_MossPWill:  no?11:47
Sivikteenprogrammer, hi11:47
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ACETACEhello all11:48
Bladesonfirebrb11:48
zeeterlupine_85  ok will do11:48
zeeterthanx11:48
PWillJeeves_Moss: what were you doing that caused X to fail?11:48
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ACETACEanybody have a moment for a question?11:48
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Neo8750is there a way to stop apt from removing the line that boots the gfx grub menu i have?11:48
georgy!ask11:48
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:48
Jeeves_MossPWill:  I was installing Apache, MySQL, and PHP (making a LAMP system), then I booted into windows on a differen't partition.  Then when I got home, it give me a shell only11:49
jazzrockerhow can i find the uid/username of the running apache process?11:49
jazzrockerprogramatically, without knowing before hand11:49
PWillCrescendo: you need to edit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc and change FIREFOX_DSP to "aoss"11:49
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CrescendoPWill, thanks.11:49
PWillJeeves_Moss: try running "startx"11:49
Jeeves_Mossgrergory:  thanks again.  I'll try that.11:49
Neo8750jazzrocker: ps ux | grep apache11:49
Neo8750\?11:49
MegaqwertyI recently burned a Ubuntu Install disk, and it locks up at "Starting the Kernel"11:50
jazzrockerhmmm11:50
Megaqwertyany Ideas?11:50
Jeeves_MossPWill:  I tried that.  then I get "cannot connect to X server"11:50
jazzrockerNeo8750, i guess that might work11:50
SivikJeeves_Moss, what video hardware?11:50
jazzrockerNeo8750, was hoping for a slightly more reliable way11:50
lampshadeMeGaQuArK: probably just a bad burn or download11:50
PWillJeeves_Moss: did the error give any other useful info?11:50
xMorphixMegaqwerty: How did you burn it?11:50
lampshadeit happens randomly on occassion11:50
jazzrockerNeo8750, that seems a bit awkward and error prone to try to parse the output of grep of ps11:50
SivikJeeves_Moss, in the xorg.conf, change the driver from whatever it is right now to vesa and then rerun startx11:50
Megaqwertywith k3b11:50
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Neo8750jazzrocker: ????11:50
spdfJeeves_Moss, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log as well, or grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log11:51
Jeeves_MossSivik:  NVidea 5700Go I think?  it's a lappy.  and I wasen't playing with the video stuff at all this month.  Or I don't rember doing it.11:51
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CarNagE__I just found a howto that recommends turning of alsa support in the kernel11:51
colin1exit11:51
CarNagE__How do I do this with Ubuntu Dapper?11:51
MegaqwertySo it is just a bad cd?11:51
jazzrockerNeo8750, i need to figure it out programatically11:51
SivikJeeves_Moss, go into the xorg.conf and change the driver to vesa to get into the x and then fix it from there11:51
Megaqwertydo you have the hash?11:51
Megaqwerty(MD5)11:51
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Jeeves_Mosssivik:  ok, thanks.  I'm off to the wide partition of Linux now!!  I hate M$, so it'll be refreshing.  Thanks again11:52
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SivikJeeves_Moss, yw11:52
Neo8750Megaqwerty: no but if you find any i want a a ball about the size of my fist11:52
JosefK_anyone else seen the scaling governor randomly being reset?11:52
Megaqwertywait, what?11:52
Neo8750nevermind =8-)11:53
Megaqwertyoh11:53
PWilllol11:53
PWillkbye. calculus homework :( back later11:53
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ACETACE@_@ ritee~~~ thanks at first... i'm trying to compile os161 and sys161 on my ubuntu system locally for one of my programming course (about operating systems).... when i compile os161-gcc it gave me a error something has to do with the file [read-rtl.o]  and called quits... i use gcc4.0.3 any idea what could have went wrong?11:53
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ruzgaris there one icon directory or more?11:53
Megaqwertyalright, nevermind, I'll burn a new CD when I get home11:53
ruzgar/usr/share/icons11:53
ruzgaris there else11:54
PWill|hwruzgar: there is /usr/share/pixmaps11:54
PWill|hwalso, ~.icons/11:54
ladydoorruzgar: i think there's ~/.icons, which keeps recreating itself every time i delete it, personally...11:54
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ACETACEam i allowed to ask this here @_@? my problem is kinda.... specific and not really os related...11:55
spdfACETACE, You're probably missing a build dependency11:56
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ruzgarthere is a problem with icons11:56
linopil!ask11:56
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:56
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ruzgarin human icon theme, the symbol link icon is tango's icon11:56
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ACETACEo >_< thanks spdf... but what does that mean... and what does that implies? o dang i asked another question >_<11:57
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BladesonfireStill no luck on connecting to the Belkin router with WPA =/11:57
PWill|hwBladesonfire: does it work with WEP?11:57
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ladydoordoes anybody know where X stores its info about what's been highlighted (for paste purposes)?11:58
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BladesonfirePWill|hw: I have not tried WEP, but unencrypted works11:58
Dr_willis ladydoor  in memory, you could use a program like glipper, or klipper to keep a paste-buffer history11:58
mickhas anyone had anyluck configuring a logitech G7? i am following this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=125752&referrerid=107974 and i get an error about evdev not being found or not being valid or something... can someone help me?11:59
BladesonfirePWill|hw: It's hard to test since other people are connected to this router right now (it's a work router)11:59
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ruzgar!glipper11:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about glipper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:59
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ruzgarglipper is good as klipper?11:59
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ladydoorDr_willis: not quite what i'm looking for, but thanks. i was hoping for a way to integrate gnu screen's cut-buffer with X's highlight-buffer, so that i would never need to use the mouse to highlight & copy/paste again11:59
ruzgaror that full of bugs ?11:59
chillmod1ntesting 1 2 1 311:59
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JavaDeveloperhow can I watch VCD in ubuntu? I installed easyubuntu and installed all codecs from there already but it still can't play12:00
PWill|hwBladesonfire: ah. that sucks. i don't really have any more advice, since it works flawlessly for me...12:00
ladydoorDr_willis: though actually, i don't need to at this point, as i've got emacs's integrated, so since emacs is in screen i have a backdoor. muahaha...12:00
BladesonfirePWill|hw: Thanks for your help anyway12:00
PWill|hwBladesonfire: you COULD try ndiswrapper12:00
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BladesonfireI think it's just a problem with the router's WPA implementation, but I don't see how it could be that different12:00
BladesonfirePWill|hw: probably my only hope now12:01
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