[12:01] <erUSUL> !synaptic > Sourcemage
[12:01] <Sourcemage> synaptic didn't know show any SDL packages when i searched = /
[12:01] <kitche> Sourcemage: anyways you have to know what your really looking for since SDL is split up in bunch of devel packages
[12:01] <ladydoor> Sourcemage: or you can do sudo aptitude and press / to search and n to search againf for the same thing
[12:02] <ladydoor> marshall: seriously, though...if you divert ubuntu's version instead of uninstalling it, you can install from source. and that has the benefit of being able to install *any* of the gaim plugins you want...
[12:02] <erUSUL> !repos > Sourcemage
[12:02] <marshall> ladydoor: ive had all kinds of trouble installing things from source before though
[12:03] <marshall> kopete 0.12 beta 3 took like 4 hours to make
[12:03] <ladydoor> marshall: well...that's just stupid. gaim takes a while to compile (which rhymes), but it doesn't take 4 hours
[12:03] <pqs> :help
[12:03] <mc44> Seveas, without DRI Xv wont work, and the 'ati' driver doesnt work. Gah!
[12:03] <ladydoor> marshall: *meaning kopete's stupid, not you
[12:04] <marshall> ladydoor:  lol ok
[12:04] <el_taco> how do I refresh my dhcp?
[12:04] <pqs> (sorry I made a mistake, usin irssi for the first time)
[12:04] <ladydoor> marshall: because i'm *really* not sure what to do about all those dependencies that don't want to co-operate
[12:04] <el_taco> i've trid using ifconfig and bring down the device and then bring it back up again
[12:05] <marshall> ladydoor:  lol its ok i know
[12:05] <ladydoor> pqs: if you do /set, it should spit out a list of things you can set. i think there's an option to change it to a colon...
[12:05] <pqs> thanks ladydoor
[12:05] <ladydoor> pqs: np.
[12:06] <pqs> it's a long time I don't IRC ;)
[12:06] <el_taco> nevermind figured
[12:06] <el_taco> it out
[12:06] <Samuli^> rr.
[12:07] <wetduck_> !Typo
[12:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Typo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:07] <wetduck_> !Font
[12:07] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[12:07] <rico> !ndiswrapper
[12:07] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:08] <TLE> He everybody.I was wondering, in Breezy you could choose a list of screensaver which it should randomly choose from. Now the only option I have is one.. of randomly from all of them. Where did taht feature go, and can I get it back by installing some package ?
[12:08] <rico> is it true that with kernel 2.6.17 it will be possible to use broadcom wifi using bcm43xx?
[12:09] <ago> hi
[12:09] <lws> are the madwifi drivers in dapper linux-restricted-modules package, are those madwifi-ng or madwifi-old?
[12:09] <ladydoor> rico: 'tis.
[12:09] <orbish> can anyone help me get compiz up and running?
[12:09] <rico> 'tis? (sorry eng is not my first language)
[12:10] <ladydoor> rico: it's an archaic contraction of "it is"
[12:10] <ladydoor> rico: archaic=not used anymore (for a long time)
[12:10] <rico> ok, thanks :-)
[12:10] <ago> does anybody know how to resize a window using pyxfce? Doesn't look like NetkWindow has any viable method.
[12:10] <TLE> ladydoor: on dansish it means pee LOL
[12:10] <ladydoor> TLE: not with an apostrophe i bet
[12:11] <TLE> ladydoor: nope
[12:11] <rico> i was wondering if it is _more_ stupid to try compile the new kernel (i have never done that before) or try to understand why everytime i get to configure my wifi using ndiswrapper i cannot connect after reboot... any suggestion? :-)
[12:12] <rico> i have been browsing tutorials and howto for days and days
[12:12] <chealer> hi. is there an Ubuntu basic logo (no text) available from an official source in PNG format?
[12:12] <rico> eventually my wifi works...but when i reboot it doesn't work anymore
[12:12] <rico> and i cannot figure out what i am missing
[12:12] <erUSUL> chealer: /usr/share/example-content/
[12:12] <rico> (i actually fear it is network manager)
[12:13] <chealer> erUSUL: hum, thank you. but I forgot to mention I'm looking for something available online.
[12:15] <aaztechcln> rico: you probally just need to setup your /etc/network/interfaces file
[12:16] <rico> aaztech: well... to use network manager you need to comment out all the lines but "lo"
[12:16] <el_taco> is build-essentials all I need to start compiling stuff?
[12:16] <ucordes> heyz. how can i set my power state?
[12:16] <rico> but that doesn't depend on ndiswrapper or bcm43xx
[12:17] <Xenguy> el_taco: yep
[12:17] <ucordes> like in windows portable and desktop profiles set the cpu core
[12:17] <Xenguy> el_taco: build-essential IIRC
[12:17] <chealer> el_taco: it's more like what's essential to start compiling stuff
[12:17] <el_taco> Xenguy, that's what I meant.
[12:17] <chealer> so,  is there an Ubuntu basic logo (no text) available from an online official source in PNG format?
[12:18] <Xenguy> el_taco: yes, but it's not what you typed -- yer welcome ;-)
[12:18] <ucordes> !acpi
[12:18] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[12:18] <ucordes> !powerstate
[12:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about powerstate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:18] <ucordes> !cpucore
[12:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cpucore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:18] <aaztechcln> rico: when you reboot, does iwconfig show your interface?
[12:18] <ucordes> argh
[12:18] <chealer> ucordes: please /msg the bot
[12:18] <rico> yup
[12:19] <rico> aaz: yes
[12:19] <aaztechcln> rico: should show up was wlan0 if you're using ndiswrapper
[12:19] <ucordes> rico: what's your problem
[12:19] <rico> eth1
[12:19] <rico> iwconfig works
[12:19] <aaztechcln> rico: so, try this after you reboot, just do a 'sudo dhclient eth1'
[12:19] <rico> iwlist works
[12:19] <ucordes> what does not work?
[12:19] <Mike_kayaker> huh the latest release NOT free??????????????????(*_*)
[12:19] <Xenguy> ucordes: there is no problem - it's the channel rules, it's polite, and it's ettiquette
[12:19] <rico> ifup eth1 doesn't work, because there is not eth1 defined in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:20] <rico> because i need to comment that in order to user NetworkManager
[12:20] <ucordes> xenguy! im not talking to you
[12:20] <Powerbook`> does anyone know how to get airport extreme wireless to work with ubuntu
[12:20] <ucordes> !
[12:20] <Xenguy> ucordes: yes you are :p
[12:20] <Mike_kayaker> Ubuntu CDs, may order them at a cost of 1.50 per CD
[12:20] <ucordes> don't provoke people if you don't want channel rules to be broken eh?
[12:20] <nanno> has anyone tried openwengo nightly builds? which ones are NOT corrupt?
[12:20] <Zolace> Question: How can i play WMA files on ubuntu?
[12:20] <aaztechcln> rico: I don't know if commenting out is the right thing to do
[12:21] <Xenguy> ucordes: it's best not to take anything too personally (it's probably not meant that way in the first place)
[12:21] <rico> if i do dhclient it tries, but it doesn't find anything
[12:21] <Zolace> How can i play WMA files on ubuntu?
[12:21] <aaztechcln> rico: what type of AP are you connecting to, does it use WAP or WPA?  or is it an open access point?
[12:22] <kitche> !w32codecs > Zolace
[12:22] <ircleuser> Hello - My ubuntu installation just died - I get the message - "can't access tty: job control turned off"
[12:22] <rico> aaz: some howto say it's the best way to use NetworkManager... i have no encryption
[12:22] <ircleuser> Can anyone please help
[12:22] <saiko> sorry, i just downloaded the latest kernel from kernel.org, extracted it (one file) in /usr/src/ and don't know what to do next .. manual say to cd to linux dir, where is that in the first place ? also, make / make config isn't recognised as bash commands, what am i doing wrong ?
[12:22] <rico> maybe i should try removing networkmanager to find out if that is the real problem
[12:22] <aaztechcln> rico: ok, then find out your SSID, and type 'iwconfig eth1 essid YOURSSID'
[12:22] <rico> done...
[12:22] <chealer> Zolace: open them with a media player, like Amarok
[12:22] <aaztechcln> rico: then do the dhclient thing
[12:23] <rico> it sees it, but i cannot use it
[12:23] <Mike_kayaker> ircleuser: Install debian 4.0
[12:23] <aaztechcln> rico: do an 'lsmod |grep bcm'
[12:23] <Xenguy> ircleuser: never heard of such an error condition; if it were me, I might repeat the install (?)
[12:23] <aaztechcln> rico: if your system is trying to use the broadcom driver, it might conflict with ndiswrapper
[12:24] <rico> no, i blacklisted it!
[12:24] <Zolace> chealer, i dont have that i dont think
[12:24] <ircleuser> Hi - Ubuntu was working fine, and then I shut it down and it wont completely shut down. following that, I pulled the plug and restarted - and now the the system doesnt go to login mode. Instead after 'checking filesystem', I get - can't access tty: job control turned off and it loads ash/busybox
[12:25] <ircleuser> Will installing debian 4 retain my old ubuntu settings ?
[12:25] <Xenguy> ircleuser: I think Mike_kayaker was either joking, or suggesting a completely separate install
[12:25] <chealer> Zolace: use another media player like vlc then, or get one
[12:25] <Mike_kayaker> ircleuser: the latter
[12:26] <aaztechcln> rico: what does dhclient say?
[12:26] <kitche> ircleuser: you should never pull a plug on a powered up machine, you should press the power button instead since you might have burned out something in the computer just so you know :)
[12:26] <ircleuser> I dont even have debian cds
[12:26] <Mike_kayaker> ircleuser: net install
[12:26] <chealer> ircleuser: FWIW, Debian 4 is not yet released
[12:26] <Mike_kayaker> etch is frozen
[12:26] <ircleuser> oh well...should I reintall ubuntu ?
[12:26] <Mike_kayaker> release Dec
[12:27] <Xenguy> ircleuser: I'd try a repeat/re-install first
[12:27] <rico> DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12
[12:27] <rico> over and over
[12:27] <rico> with different interval values
[12:27] <ircleuser> There is not 'fix' mode in Ubuntu
[12:28] <ircleuser> ?
[12:28] <Sourcemage> is it possible to just install every single SDL package?
[12:28] <Xenguy> ircleuser: It's been awhile; 'rescue' might be worth a keyword try
[12:28] <Ash-Fox> Sourcemage, it is possible.
[12:29] <ircleuser> busy box does not have rescue
[12:29] <aaztechcln> rico: you're sure you're not using the BCM drivers?
[12:29] <Sourcemage> ash-fox: In order to play this game I need a bunch of sdl packages but i can't figure out which ones i don't have
[12:29] <Sourcemage> it's a small list and i've gone through each and gotten everything
[12:30] <ircleuser> Sourcemage - Any other possible suggestions other than rescue
[12:30] <kitche> Sourcemage: if the checkbox next to them is green it means that they are installed
[12:30] <Ash-Fox> Sourcemage, there are far more you can get off SDL's homepage that you can compile etc. although I'd reccommend you lookup the game on google instead.
[12:30] <ircleuser> or perhaps running rescue off the liveCD
[12:30] <bobobogu> anyone have any info on the oringal muvo mp3 players?
[12:30] <rico> aaz: pretty sure... lsmod | grep bcm is empty
[12:30] <ircleuser> Does anyone have some other idea ?
[12:31] <mumbles> argh
[12:31] <mumbles> damm randem mumbles ....
[12:31] <bobobogu> i want to pllug it in to my pc without mounting its flash drive and still using it to play stuff
[12:31] <anonymouse> quick question: Is it possible (and reasonable) to run apache temporarily from a live-cd boot up of ubuntu?  Or am I really asking for trouble?
[12:31] <Sourcemage> ash-fox i've only had Ubuntu f or a day, it's my first LInux distribution so ... i'm a little overwhelmed :(
[12:32] <Sourcemage> i downloaded the game client directly from the developers website and have been trying to follow the installation guide
[12:32] <bobobogu> like if i plug it in to the pc it only wants to be a flash drive i can't press its play button etc
[12:32] <Flannel> Sourcemage: what do you need the sdl packages for?
[12:32] <Sourcemage> For a game called Daimonin, http://www.daimonin.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpWiki&file=index&pagename=Source%20Client%20Install
[12:33] <el_taco> what's the parameter for carctl to list devices present?
[12:33] <ircleuser> can't access tty: job control turned off
[12:33] <ircleuser> anyone has some other ideas to fix - can't access tty: job control turned off
[12:33] <el_taco> nevermind. figured it out :)
[12:33] <kitche> ircleuser: did you do a reinstall?
[12:33] <ubuntu> Help! I had ubuntu installed on my computer, and then I ran gparted, and installed xp on my disk (not the first partition, but that didn't seem to be a problem in the windows xp installer) when I went to reboot to do the second phase of the xp install, it failed. Any ideas?
[12:34] <ircleuser> will I lose old configuration data and other programs when I reinstall ?
[12:34] <rico> aaztechcln, thanks for your help and suggestions...
[12:34] <Flannel> ubuntu: XP install failed?  you'll have to ask XP/MS/whatever support people about that.
[12:34] <Zolace> thanks kitche
[12:34] <el_taco> Ubugtu, iirc windows writes over the mbr
[12:34] <rico> aaztechcln, i think i will try to disable the network manager and see if that is the problem
[12:34] <Flannel> Sourcemage: unfortunately, yeah, you need to figure out your dependencies by hand.
[12:34] <ircleuser> Kitche - do you think I'll lose the configuration data if I reinstall ?
[12:34] <DigitalNinja> Is there an easy way to lock down a gnome desktop
[12:35] <kitche> ircleuser: well if you reformat you will
[12:36] <ircleuser> kitche : I dont intend to reformat. I should be still be able to reinstall - right ?
[12:36] <kitche> ircleuser: yes at least you should be able to not sure if it will cause breakages but it shouldn't
[12:37] <mabus> Help! I tried to install xp after I had successfully installed ubuntu, and then ran gparted to make my partitons afterwards. XP is not installed on the first partition. Any ideas? It gave a disk error after rebooting into the second phase of xp installation.
[12:38] <kitche> mabus: well the disk error would really help but anyways you would have lost linux since windows whipes out a MBR
[12:38] <Sourcemage> Flannel: I reran sh ./configure   after I installed a few of those packages and i think 'make' worked this time but i'm not sure
[12:38] <jeeves_Moss> all:  does any one know the command to purge a bad install of apache?  I've tried everything I can think of to get it to work, and it's annoying me.
[12:38] <kitche> mabus: anyways that's mroe fo a ##windows question
[12:39] <aaztechcln> Rico-: no problem, once you get it working via command prompt, you'll be good 2 go
[12:39] <Plouj> hi
[12:39] <canepazzo> Where may I take the sources of 2.6.15-27 belonging to ubuntu?
[12:39] <Powerbook`> how would I update the kernal from 2.6.15-23-powerpc to the newest?
[12:39] <jeeves_Moss> Flannel:  you still in here?
[12:40] <Powerbook`> note: I cannot download from that computer, but I can download on a different computer and put it on there, so no like apt-get :p
[12:40] <mabus> kitche: MBR can be overwritten again, though? And the disk error was simply "disk error"
[12:40] <canepazzo> Do I need to download the kernel from kernel.org for grabbing the sources?
[12:40] <Plouj> what username/password should I enter after I click "start printer" in the cups web interface at locahost:631/printers/printer-name ?
[12:41] <gekko`> is this a bug http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24816 ? i'm getting it when i'm updating a package
[12:41] <chealer> canepazzo: no
[12:41] <canepazzo> chealer, what should I do?
[12:42] <canepazzo> I have the image, the restricted modules
[12:42] <canepazzo> what else do I need to build other modules inside the kernel?
[12:42] <chealer> canepazzo: there should be an Ubuntu binary package containing the Linux source
[12:42] <Flannel> jeeves_Moss: what's up?
[12:42] <chealer> canepazzo: "build modules inside the kernel"?
[12:42] <Powerbook`> how do i update the kernel?
[12:43] <chanwoma1> trying to install vmware tools, got error message 'couldn't find package linux-headers-uname -r', help!!
[12:43] <chealer> canepazzo: if you just mean building LKMs, you should only need Linux headers
[12:43] <Flannel> chanwoma1: sounds like something wasn't quoted correctly in a script
[12:43] <jeeves_Moss> Flannel:  dumbest questoin I've asked so far tonight.  Is the command to purge a bad install apt-get --purge apache2?
[12:43] <mabus> Help! I tried to install xp after I had successfully installed ubuntu, and then ran gparted to make my partitons afterwards. XP is not installed on the first partition. Any ideas? It gave a disk error after rebooting into the second phase of xp installation. So my idea is, that I need to overwrite whatever windows put on the MBR, and put a grub on that will correctly boot xp/ubuntu... can somebody point me to a howto 
[12:43] <mabus> !grub
[12:43] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:44] <canepazzo> chealer, I need to compile the svn version of madwifi
[12:44] <canepazzo> chealer, but it gives me error on compile
[12:44] <lws> is edgy reasonably good to use as is?
[12:44] <lws> if I do a distupgrade?
[12:44] <Powerbook`> !kernel
[12:44] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:44] <Powerbook`> how do i update kernel...
[12:44] <canepazzo> /usr/src/madwifi-0.9.2/ath/uudecode.c:26:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
[12:44] <canepazzo> /usr/src/madwifi-0.9.2/ath/uudecode.c:27:19: error: errno.h: No such file or directory
[12:45] <canepazzo> this for example
[12:45] <canepazzo> I have the same with the svn
[12:45] <canepazzo> :|
[12:45] <Flannel> jeeves_Moss: apt-get --purge remove apache2
[12:45] <Flannel> lws: #ubuntu+1 can give you more info on the current stability of edgy
[12:45] <canepazzo> :|
[12:46] <lws> kewl thanks
[12:46] <Flannel> canepazzo: have you installed build-essential yet?
[12:46] <lws> I'm mainly curious because I don't want to spend time futzing with the madwifi-ng stuff and am hoping edgy just fixes this
[12:46] <jeeves_Moss> Flannel:  thanks again.  I can't figure out WTF is going on with Apache.  it won't behave, so I'm going to purge it.
[12:46] <chanwoma1> what is the right script, I used   apt-get install linux-headers-'uname -r'   be kind, I am 110 and a newbie.
[12:46] <canepazzo> Flannel, that was what I missed :|
[12:47] <Flannel> chanwoma1: I believe those should be back ticks, ` instead of '
[12:47] <chealer> chanwoma1: it's "`uname -r`", not "'uname -r'"
[12:47] <jeeves_Moss> Flannel:  too bad you wern't here, I'd invite you for a beer.  LOL.  Speaking of that....  I'm sitting in a pub right now.
[12:48] <chanwoma1> chealer, dumb question, which one is the back tick??
[12:49] <chealer> chanwoma1: right of ";"
[12:50] <Flannel> chanwoma1, chealer, no.  you want the one under ~, top left of most keyboards
[12:50] <Powerbook`> to use a wireless network, I open "networks"?
[12:50] <chanwoma1> Thanks Chealer, will try that.
[12:50] <jeeves_Moss> Flannel:  what perl moduals should I install?  every one of my installs (regaurdless of what I'm installing) allways complain about "perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:"
[12:50] <chealer> doh
[12:50] <juanjo> i am trying to install ubuntu in a macbook, but i get again and again the "no syncing: io-apic + timer doesn't work' kernel panic ... isn't possible to install ubuntu?
[12:51] <Plouj> darned "/usr/lib/cups/backend/http failed" (ipp can also be in place of "http")!
[12:52] <RawSewage> Anyone have a way to automatically join rar, unrar, par repair, etc for Usenet
[12:52] <Plouj> juanjo: I'd be surprised if there is no HOWTO for installing ubuntu on your macbook
[12:52] <Plouj> juanjo: did you google?
[12:53] <mabus> Help please! I lost my grub after installing windows after having had ubuntu already installed. I rescued grub fine, but now how to I get windows to boot up to finish installing?
[12:53] <juanjo> Plouj, of course, but i haven't found a solution for that problem.
[12:53] <brian98> !mac
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <brian98> :)
[12:53] <Flannel> mabus: this is not a windows support channel, we have no idea.
[12:53] <Flannel> mabus: you might try ##windows
[12:53] <Plouj> masterbender: you gotta edit /boot/grub/grub.conf or menu.lst to add an option to boot to windows
[12:54] <Plouj> oops
[12:54] <Jay_Levitt> Anyone here good with SASL?
[12:54] <Plouj> mabus: you gotta edit /boot/grub/grub.conf or menu.lst to add an option to boot to windows
[12:54] <Plouj> masterbender: that wasn't for you, sorry
[12:54] <masterbender> :)
[12:54] <jeeves_Moss> Flannel:  any ideas on that perl eror?
[12:54] <Plouj> mabus: google for grub windows menu
[12:54] <masterbender> the good old tab trap
[12:54] <stuh84> mabus: sounds like a problem i had
[12:55] <Flannel> Plouj: no, grub should already have a windows option, it autodetects, he just hasn't finished installing windows yet.
[12:55] <stuh84> best way i found was to take the setup disk for windows (2K it was for me)
[12:55] <ArrenLex> mabus: you can modify commands in grub as you boot up, or in /grub/menu.lst
[12:55] <ArrenLex> mabus: change the command\add the following line to /grub/menu.lst :
[12:55] <Flannel> jeeves_Moss: nope, sorry.
[12:55] <stuh84> go into the recovery console option
[12:55] <stuh84> type in fixmbr
[12:55] <ArrenLex> mabus:
[12:55] <mabus> Flannel: well it's probably an issue with grub booting things properly, it's a boot issue, not really either os'es problem
[12:55] <jeeves_Moss> Flannel:  ok, thanks
[12:55] <stuh84> then do the finish installing
[12:55] <ArrenLex> title           Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
[12:55] <ArrenLex> root            (hd0,0)
[12:55] <ArrenLex> savedefault
[12:55] <ArrenLex> makeactive
[12:55] <ArrenLex> chainloader     +1
[12:55] <Flannel> ArrenLex: don't paste here.
[12:55] <stuh84> THEN once you've done that, do grub
[12:55] <ArrenLex> (sorry to paste, too lazy for pastebin)
[12:55] <ircleuser> In Context of -- 'can't access tty: job control turned off' error, I am now trying to reinstall ubuntu. However, I dont remember which parition mounted to home and which one to root.
[12:55] <mabus> Flannel: If you didn't want to help you could have just not said anything.
[12:55] <ircleuser> Os there some wa to find out
[12:55] <ArrenLex> Flannel: it wasn't that long. You'll live.
[12:56] <DigitalNinja> is there a way to edit the gnome menu
[12:56] <mabus> ArrenLex: see, you have xp on the first partition, which is supposed to save problems. :/ mine is on hda4
[12:56] <Flannel> ArrenLex: there are 860 people in this channel, if everyone started pasting...  just dont.
[12:56] <ArrenLex> Flannel: as you can see, only about 10 are talking at any given time.
[12:56] <Flannel> mabus: grub can handle windows fine, but you need windows to have finished installing properly first, it's a windows issue.
[12:57] <ArrenLex> Flannel: if everyone on earth turned on their TVs all at once, the electrical grids would overload. Thus, no one should watch TV?
[12:57] <LAF11540_> Am completely new to this - How do I get Ubuntu to recognise and allow me to format an external Western Digital 120 gig H/D?
[12:57] <ArrenLex> LAF: have you tried plugging it in to see if it gets recognised automagically?
[12:58] <LAF11540_> Yes
[12:58] <ArrenLex> LAF: What happen?
[12:58] <kitche> LAF11540_: is this a new hd?
[12:58] <LAF11540_> It regognises the HD but allows no command to format thus allowing use
[12:59] <mabus> Okay, well how do I get grub to go to the grub menu when booting instead of autobooting ubuntu
[12:59] <mabus> Or pressing f10 or whatever in the .5 seconds it gives you
[12:59] <stuh84> mabus: do you mind if i pm you?
[12:59] <ArrenLex> LAF: "allows no command to format" meaning "it forbids me from executing such a command" or "I don't know one"?
[12:59] <ircleuser> Hi - Is there some shell command to find out which logical drive is /usr/ mounted to and which one root is mounted to ?
[12:59] <LuisMendes> how can I make a .img file from a floppy disk?
[12:59] <Plouj> Flannel: then he'd have to edit grub manually to finish windows install, no?
[12:59] <mabus> stuh84: I'd appreciate it, if it's related to my problem.
[12:59] <LAF11540_> it forbids
[12:59] <Flannel> mabus: escape.  but, you can change the grub config to not hide the menu, 'hiddenmenu' option, I believe
[12:59] <ArrenLex> ircleuser: "mount"
[12:59] <kitche> LAF11540_: do you sudo when you try the command?
[01:00] <Flannel> Plouj: He should have finished the windows install before reinstalling grub
[01:00] <ircleuser> thanks arrenlex
[01:00] <ArrenLex> LAF: why, does it say?
[01:00] <ArrenLex> *what does it say?
[01:00] <Plouj> Flannel: ah
[01:00] <LAF11540_> don'y understand 'sudo'
[01:00] <Flannel> LAF11540_: are you running ubuntu?
[01:00] <LAF11540_> yes
[01:00] <gekko`> ircleuser: 'mount' shows you all mounted devices
[01:00] <ArrenLex> LAF: "sudo" temporarily gives you the magical power of an administrator. You should try it.
[01:01] <LAF11540_> cannot mount the device
[01:01] <ArrenLex> LAF: what command are you trying to execute?
[01:01] <kitche> LAF11540_: well you don't mount something to format it in reality
[01:01] <ice_1963> what is the name of program edit gnome's menu??
[01:02] <Flannel> ice_1963: alacarte
[01:02] <ice_1963> ok
[01:03] <ice_1963> thank you flannel
[01:03] <SilentOutcast> can someone help me setup printer sharing on my ubuntu server
[01:03] <ircleuser> I installed a video card driver in windows in my dual boot system. Would that have any affect on the linux partititon?
[01:04] <samuel__> hello
[01:04] <ircleuser> I ask bacuse I started getting this error following that can't access tty: job control turned off
[01:04] <pty> ircleuser: no
[01:04] <LuisMendes> how can I make a .img file from a floppy disk?
[01:04] <ircleuser> thanks pty
[01:04] <ztg> hi all, I'm running LTS 6.0 server and it's been running for over a month great but is now locking up all the time any ideas on where to begin trouble shooting
[01:05] <SilentOutcast> what packages would i have to install to share a printer connected to my linux box with my windows box
[01:05] <LAF11540_> I should explain - I go to 'places' - 'computer' it shows all H/D's - the 120 gig is indicated, but when I go to attempt to format, the format command is 'greyed'
[01:05] <Stix09> can anyone here help me with an install problem
[01:05] <ArrenLex> !ask
[01:05] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:05] <kitche> LAF11540_: you have to use sudo that's why your user doesn't have permissions to format the drive
[01:05] <onicrom> hey guys, I am wondering if you are able to compile all packages installed on your ubuntu system instead of just installing pkg's  AND if so can you set the gcc compile time options?
[01:06] <Flannel> onicrom: sure, you can download packages as source instead of binary
[01:06] <b^j> ztg, run memtest86+
[01:06] <JosefK> onicrom: you're thinking of Gentoo
[01:06] <Jay_Levitt> Anyone know how to use saslpasswd2 to create sasldb2 shared secrets?
[01:06] <Stix09> alright when i try to install ubuntu (text based install) it does the first few steps fine but when it gets to the part where i am supposed to parition my disk the screen just remains all blue and the partition utility never appears
[01:06] <LAF11540_> OK, I'll try it - but as I said - I'm new to this game - thanks for the input.
[01:07] <onicrom> Josefk, I know Id like the same functionality.
[01:07] <onicrom> Flannel, do you know of any docs that might help me with that?
[01:07] <Stix09> anyone know how i can get around that and install ubuntu
[01:08] <Flannel> onicrom: instead of 'apt-get install' 'apt-get source', then compile.  You'll probably also want apt-get build-deps
[01:08] <JosefK> onicrom: even if you download the source by hand and build it, you'll still need to checkinstall it so apt is aware it exists
[01:08] <Flannel> !tell onicrom about compile
[01:08] <stuh84> stix: only a guess but maybe the install disc is knackered?
[01:08] <red|rain> Hi, can I use aiglx even if I have the fglrx driver installed?
[01:08] <Plouj> yo
[01:09] <stuh84> stix: was it downloaded or did you get a shipit! cd?
[01:09] <Stix09> im not sure if the disk is clean or not, ill download a fresh copy and try again, but ive also had similar problems with other linux distros... i have a sata harddrive i was thinking that might be causing a problem?
[01:09] <SilentOutcast> what is the name of the package i have to install to install cups on my lamp server
[01:09] <Plouj> is there a way to somehow copy all the Ubuntu configurations that were made to the system to a fresh ubuntu install to make a sort of 'clone' system without actual user's data?
[01:09] <darkanyel> hi ppl
[01:10] <stuh84> stix: got very little experience with sata if i'm honest, only one sata drive in the house and its on one of me dads PC
[01:10] <darkanyel> can anyone help me with rhythmbox?
[01:10] <Stix09> alright well i guess ill dl another cd and try again
[01:10] <Stix09> and be back if it doesnt work
[01:10] <Stix09> thanks for the help
[01:10] <JosefK> Stix09: if you're not using SATA RAID - why not use them as IDE?
[01:11] <stuh84> its always the first thing i'd try, good luck mate
[01:11] <darkanyel> plz?
[01:11] <stuh84> dark: whats the problem with it?
[01:11] <onicrom> Thanks very much guys
[01:12] <darkanyel> i cant listen mp3 with rhytmbox
[01:12] <darkanyel> but i can with amarok
[01:12] <JosefK> !mp3 > darkanyel
[01:12] <bruenig> !mp3
[01:12] <DarkMageZ> !tell darkanyel about restrictedformats
[01:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:12] <Laney> np: Ace Of Base - Always Have, Always Will
[01:12] <darkanyel> :S
[01:12] <horizon> has anyone know vdr software?
[01:13] <Plouj> GAH! I don't understand why Ubuntu can't print to my Gentoo's CUPS server.
[01:13] <DarkMageZ> darkanyel, basically, since mp3 format has some legal issues... no support for it is shiped with ubuntu, you can install support for it by following the instructions on the restrictedformats page in the wiki :P
[01:13] <darkanyel> but i dont undestand why can i listen mp3 with amarok and not with rhyhtmbox
[01:13] <stuh84> gstreamer issue maybe?
[01:13] <stuh84> or maybe i'm clutching at straws
[01:13] <Plouj> the CUPS server does not show any errors in it's logs so I'm pretty sure it's not an access restriction problem
[01:14] <mabus> so whats a good program to burn dvds with
[01:14] <Blinker> mabus: burn, or copy?
[01:14] <darkanyel> i install the support for mp3 a long time ago
[01:14] <Plouj> let me-repeat my question in full on one line ;)
[01:15] <stuh84> mabus: did you get the PM i sent you btw?
[01:15] <DarkMageZ> darkanyel, you installed mp3 support for xine :P rhythmbox uses gstreamer
[01:15] <darkanyel> :?
[01:16] <darkanyel> i dont understad
[01:16] <darkanyel> :$
[01:16] <Plouj> GAH! I don't understand why Ubuntu can't print to my Gentoo's CUPS server. The CUPS server does not show any errors in it's logs so I'm pretty sure it's not an access restriction problem. Ubuntu's CUPS interface shows "/usr/lib/cups/backend/http failed" (ipp can also be in place of "http")
[01:16] <Blinker> mabus: going once....
[01:16] <horizon> has anyone know the solution "vdr: please turn off UTF-8 before starting VDR" ???
 I'll try that when if it locks up again, but it's a production server so I want it down as little as possible, is there anything else, I can't find anything in /var/log/syslog
[01:17] <mabus> stuh84: no i didn't
[01:17] <ice_1963> Blinker, gnomebaker right
[01:17] <stuh84> right i'll repost it to you
[01:17] <mabus> Blinker: burn.. just a data cd
[01:17] <mabus> dvd rather
[01:17] <Blinker> ice_1963: eh?
[01:17] <DarkMageZ> darkanyel, ok, basically... amarok and rhythmbox are just user interfaces. they rely on a backend to play music, there are 2 general backends under linux. xine and gstreamer. you installed mp3 support for xine hence why mp3's work in amarok
[01:17] <ice_1963> or k3b
[01:17] <Blinker> mabus: the functionality for that is built right into nautilus. insert a blank dvd and it'll prompt you
[01:17] <DarkMageZ> darkanyel, what you need to do is add mp3 support to gstreamer, all you need to do to get it is install "gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly"
[01:18] <mabus> Blinker: I have thunar, not nautilus
[01:18] <darkanyel> uhmmm
[01:18] <Blinker> mabus: youre on xubuntu?
[01:19] <stuh84> darkanyel: dya know how to load up synaptic?
[01:19] <mabus> Blinker: Yeah. But for generic questions I come to ubuntu because it's much more helpful.
[01:19] <stuh84> or a terminal, either will do
[01:19] <horizon> hey guys has anyone know the solution "vdr: please turn off UTF-8 before starting VDR" ???
[01:19] <Blinker> stuh84: system > administration > synaptic...
[01:19] <JosefK> mabus: if you're on Xubuntu, try out gnomebaker
[01:20] <mabus> JosefK: thanks
[01:20] <stuh84> blinker: yeah i know myself :P i was trying to help that guy with gstreamer
[01:20] <DarkMageZ> stuh84, well, looks like that was alittle to complex for anyel :P
[01:20] <Blinker> mabus: hear ya.unfrtunately i'm not able to help with that one...my only burning machineruns ubu
[01:20] <kitche> horizon: yes you have to turn off UTF-8 it's probably in the settings for that app
[01:20] <stuh84> seems so......ha
[01:20] <Blinker> stuh84: ah, gotcha
[01:20] <horizon> yeah but the application doent start
[01:20] <stuh84> no worries though blink
[01:20] <horizon> i need to make it through console or someway
[01:20] <Blinker> ;)
[01:21] <horizon> i dont know
[01:21] <kitche> horizo: usually settings are kept in a .conf file
[01:21] <freezey_> why can i not write to my external hard drive?
[01:21] <freezey_> telling me its a read only file system
[01:21] <horizon> kitche > how may i do it?
[01:22] <stuh84> i'll let others clarify, but i'll take a stab at it being formatted to ntfs
[01:22] <Blinker> freezey: you'll have to change permissions or sudo it through terminal
[01:22] <kitche> freezey_: because it is, most likely you are writing as a user and not an admin
[01:22] <JosefK> horizon: are you comfortable in a terminal?
[01:22] <horizon> yeah
[01:22] <freezey_> kitche: ok sooo even if i sudo the command
[01:22] <freezey_> kitche: that should be writing it as an admin tho correct?
[01:22] <JosefK> try 'export LANG="C"' and then 'vdr'
[01:22] <wanted> boy, how redirect X in two $DISPLAY ??
[01:22] <stuh84> freezey: thats the deal yes
[01:23] <kitche> freezey_: yes make sure it's mounted as rw also could have mounted as ro
[01:23] <freezey_> kitch: /dev/sdb1 on /media/New Volume type ntfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[01:23] <stuh84> there we go
[01:23] <stuh84> its ntfs
[01:23] <lostinc> Is there any software that will backup a selection of folders to USB Harddrive periodically without user intervention??
[01:23] <JosefK> lostinc: rsync and cron
[01:23] <stuh84> you either need captive-ntfs, which i'm not sure how stable it is
[01:24] <kitche> freezey_: ah ok you have ntfs-3g installed
[01:24] <JosefK> lostinc: you'll need to google for documentation though
[01:24] <hesperus> hi guys
[01:24] <lostinc> Okay
[01:24] <Blinker> there is no reliable way to write to ntfs in linux
[01:24] <lupine_85> course there isd
[01:24] <horizon> josef> ok done but now "vdr: can't access video directory /video"
[01:24] <lupine_85> use Windows XP in a VMWare session
[01:24] <freezey_> i just need to move some drivers over thats all
[01:24] <stuh84> yeah i was under that impression too blinker
[01:24] <hesperus> does linux-restricted-modules-686 include nvidia.ko module?
[01:24] <kitche> freezey_: since you can't write to an ntfs under linux by default
[01:24] <freezey_> ok
[01:24] <freezey_> so what should i do
[01:24] <lupine_85> hesperus: yes
[01:24] <kitche> !ntfs > freezey_
[01:24] <JosefK> horizon: try hacking it's config files to use /tmp, or another suitably large partition on your system
[01:24] <stuh84> i'd say format it to fat32 meself if you can
[01:25] <hesperus> lupine_85: well, i can't find it anywhere
[01:25] <JosefK> horizon: if that fails, make a '/video' directory and give yourself +rwx on it
[01:25] <hesperus> maybe the 386 is more complete?
[01:25] <horizon> it s located in fact in home directory
[01:25] <JosefK> /video != ~/video
[01:25] <lupine_85> try this: dpkg -L linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-686
[01:25] <horizon> maybe it is better ./vdr at directory
[01:25] <lupine_85> or: dpkg -L linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-686 |grep ko (if you're lazy)
[01:26] <hesperus> lupine_85: thx, let's grep it =)
[01:27] <stuh84> just to say, can anyone pull me up on anytime i say something wrong, i'm not an ubuntu expert by a long shot, just spent a fair bit of time tinkering with it
[01:27] <darkanyel> hi
[01:27] <darkanyel> thanks
[01:27] <hesperus> lupine_85: there is no nvidia.ko, only nv-kernel.o which is approximately ~5MB
[01:27] <stuh84> aha darkanyel returns
[01:27] <darkanyel> i can now listen mp3
[01:28] <darkanyel> but i have a question
[01:28] <darkanyel> how can i make amarok my default musik player?
[01:29] <Sourcemage> When I delete things from /Desktop are they removed permanetly? or do they go to some non-visible trash bag!
[01:29] <lupine_85> hmm, strange. maybe it's in nvidia-glx?
[01:29] <Sourcemage> ?*
[01:29] <Blinker> Sourcemage: bottom right of the screen should show your trash bin
[01:29] <jeeves_Moss> all:  does any one know what this error means and how to fix it?  "perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale"
[01:29] <jiSh> darkanyel: right click an mp3 in konqueror and go top "open with" menu and then "other" and in the box make amarok default
[01:30] <Sourcemage> ahhhhhhhhh it's iconified now, : p
[01:30] <Blinker> ;)
[01:30] <Sourcemage> thanks Blinker lol, didn't even notice
[01:30] <hesperus> lupine_85: nope
[01:30] <darkanyel> i already do that
[01:30] <Blinker> thats ok...things are easy to overlook sometimes...even i'm guilty of it on occasion
[01:30] <darkanyel> when i do 2 click in an icon of mp3 it open amarok
[01:31] <darkanyel> i mean, in my keyboard i have an extra button with the simblo of music, and when i press that button open rhyhtmbox
[01:31] <lupine_85> not really sure then
[01:31] <hesperus> lupine_85: have a look if you don't mind -> http://pastebin.ca/182371
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Blinker: Sometimes it just easier to take a little flak for asking an obvious question
[01:31] <mabus> JosefK: Um, I don't see how to burn a dvd with gnomebaker
[01:31] <darkanyel> i wanna amarok and not rhyhtmbox in that button
[01:31] <hesperus> that nv-kernel.o seems to be a "raw" object to-be-compiled, i want the precompiled nvidia.ko actually
[01:31] <TracerBullet> does an xv package exist for ubuntu ?
[01:32] <len> Hi, can Any1 help me enable my Direct Rendering???
[01:32] <Blinker> the only stupid question is one not asked
[01:32] <juanjo> anyone using ubuntu on a macbook?
[01:32] <cafuego> hesperus: That'
[01:32] <cafuego> s in linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[01:32] <funkygreendogs> yo can anyone help me im trying to add ubuntu to lilo so i can dual boot with mandrake and winxp
[01:32] <hesperus> cafuego: this package is installed...
[01:32] <JosefK> mabus: I haven't got it right in front of me, but I think you just drag files into the bottom list, then click 'burn'
[01:33] <funkygreendogs> what path should i type for the kernel
[01:33] <hesperus> can someone confirm that nvidia.ko exists in i386 but not in i686 ?
[01:33] <ice_1963> who know's when flashplayer 9 be ready for linux ?
[01:33] <hesperus> ice_1963: 2007+
[01:33] <len> any1?
[01:33] <Sourcemage> len you'll have to be more specific, I find that the generalized questions are left unanswered : P
[01:34] <horizon> josef> where will I make video directory?
[01:34] <cafuego> hesperus: /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/volatile/nvidia.ko
[01:34] <len> Sourcemage: I'm nb in linux, sorry
[01:34] <horizon> in which directory
[01:34] <JosefK> horizon: wherever it asks you to
[01:34] <hesperus> cafuego: i've done find /lib/modules -iname *nvidia*
[01:34] <ice_1963> f flashplayer then :)
[01:34] <horizon> it doent show me a path
[01:34] <hesperus> nothing like that exists
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> len: Start by identifying what video card/chipset you have and if you have installed the drivers for that card yet
[01:34] <stuh84> Juanjo: http://bin-false.org/?p=17 this of any help to you?
[01:34] <JosefK> horizon: you may be best making one under /var, say /var/video, and if it wants it in root, symlink it
[01:34] <dan2> cafuego: I didn't know you used ubuntu?
[01:35] <cafuego> dan2: have for ages. As well as Debian.
[01:35] <horizon> ok now i try
[01:35] <len> the thing is I have a geforce 7800 gtx and when I use in shell: glxinfo | grep "direct" says 'direct rendering: No'
[01:35] <horizon> but i use suse linux
[01:35] <len> I used the Nvidia Binary drives.
[01:35] <horizon> is it a problem?
[01:35] <JosefK> horizon: if you're using SuSE, I really don't know.
[01:35] <JosefK> horizon: it has its own magic, but this would probably be fine.
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[01:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:36] <horizon> i think the mentality could be same
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> len: is that the link you used?
[01:36] <wanted> boy, how redirect X in two $DISPLAY ??
[01:36] <funkygreendogs> what path should i put in the lilo config file to boot the Ubuntu kernel ???
[01:36] <len> Jack_Sparrow: I used nvidia binary... seems to be working
[01:36] <juanjo> stuh84, i have read an followed that, but i have problems cause i get the apic kernel panic 99% of the times y boot, and also cause the install program hangs when the copying process is by the 40%
[01:36] <horizon> i try /var/video
[01:37] <JosefK> horizon: don't forget to symlink it to /video .
[01:37] <hesperus> is anyone using the 686 kernel (not the default 386)?
[01:37] <darkanyel> me
[01:37] <horizon> symlink?
[01:37] <stuh84> not much i can help with then, dont own a mac....yet
[01:37] <horizon> can you explain?
[01:37] <darkanyel> im sing 686
[01:37] <WhiteDeth> Hey, just about to install Ubuntu for the first time...
[01:37] <TracerBullet> I want to use a package that's available in debian non-free with ubuntu .. whats the best way to do it ?
[01:37] <hesperus> darkanyel: do you have the nvidia.ko module?
[01:37] <len> Jack_Sparrow: I 1st followed this tutorial, but some steps were different so I just used 'sudo ssh NVIDIA<...>' then it self instaled
[01:37] <darkanyel> nop
[01:37] <WhiteDeth> Is it best to download the drivers et al beforehand?
[01:37] <lupine_85> TracerBullet: cautiously :)
[01:37] <hesperus> darkanyel: so, it's officially missing from the 686 package
[01:37] <darkanyel> i use ati
[01:38] <TracerBullet> lol lupine_85 .. that's why i'm asking here :-)
[01:38] <cafuego> WhiteDeth: no, they're pretty much all included.
[01:38] <lupine_85> Your best bet would be to get and build the source package, if the .deb doesn't exist in dapper
[01:38] <stuh84> whitedeth: your best bet is to load the live cd
[01:38] <darkanyel> dont know :S
[01:38] <stuh84> and see what works and doesn't work
[01:38] <Xenguy> WhiteDeth: try the live cd first to test various hardware compability
[01:38] <cafuego> WhiteDeth: And if not included, at least prepackaged for easy use and maintanability.
[01:38] <hesperus> darkanyel: i thought all closed modules are in the linux-restricted package...
[01:38] <stuh84> more often than not nearly everything will work
[01:38] <ztg> ubuntu-server keeps locking up any ideas?
[01:38] <WhiteDeth> I think that's what I downloaded. Is the Live CD what I downloaded straight from Ubuntu.com ? :\
[01:38] <DarkMageZ> darkanyel, did you end up sorting that issue that when you press the music button on your keyboard that it opens rhythmbox instread of amarok?
[01:38] <stuh84> whitedeth: it should be
[01:38] <stuh84> best way to test, put it in your drive
[01:38] <cafuego> hesperus: They are, but some people think that usinf nvidia ones is somehow a better idea (it's not).
[01:39] <stuh84> start the pc up
[01:39] <Xenguy> WhiteDeth: the live cd and the install cd are the same cd for dapper now
[01:39] <stuh84> watch, and wait for the ubuntu splash screen
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> len: Please post your xorg.conf to the !pastebin for people to chack it out.
[01:39] <lupine_85> cafuego: the 9xxx series drivers r0x0r
[01:39] <lupine_85> but they aren't in the repos ;)
[01:39] <mdkaneda> i'm having a serious problem! lol. I had ubuntu on my system installed on HDA w/ no other operating systems. I needed to install windows xp again on this machine, so i decided to put my other HD into this system as HDA, and move the existing HDA to HDB (because i knew windows would have a problem if it wasnt on the 1st partition of the 1st drive)... i changed my fstab and grub config files, installed WinXP, and reinstalled Grub into HDA
[01:39] <funkygreendogs> Anyone: What path should i put in the lilo config file to boot the Ubuntu kernel ???
[01:39] <len> Jack_Sparrow: kk just 1 sec
[01:39] <cafuego> lupine_85: The ones in the repo work fine.
[01:39] <hesperus> cafuego: i didn't understand what you mean
[01:39] <cafuego> lupine_85: And are easy for most people to manage.
[01:39] <lupine_85> true enough
[01:39] <TracerBullet> lupine_85 is there a way to install a build environment without bringing down each package individually ??
[01:39] <darkanyel> DarkMageZ no
[01:39] <lupine_85> TracerBullet: pbuilder ?
[01:40] <hesperus> should i use the VESA drivers but not the closed nvidia ones?
[01:40] <stuh84> mkaneda: whats the actual problem then
[01:40] <stuh84> ?
[01:40] <lupine_85> but then, morse code works "fine"... as does IPoAC
[01:40] <darkanyel> DarkMageZ, no i dont know how can i configure that
[01:40] <DarkMageZ> darkanyel, nvm, i thought i knew where that was... but i just tried finding it again and no luck, sry
[01:40] <lupine_85> (avian carrier)
[01:40] <TracerBullet> gcc / make / and the ac-* family
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !build-essential
[01:40] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:40] <len> Jack_Sparrow:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24823
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> checking
[01:40] <mdkaneda> stuh84: it wont mount root, its looking in the wrong spot. cant get in to change fstab to actually boot my files
[01:41] <hesperus> cafuego: ?
[01:41] <stuh84> hmm, boot up the ubuntu live cd and edit from within there maybe?
[01:41] <WhiteDeth> how much space is recommended for a partition to have to install Ubuntu?
[01:41] <lupine_85> mind you, I've always had problems with the linux-restricted-modules package
[01:41] <TracerBullet> thanks Jack_Sparrow
[01:41] <stuh84> whitedeth: I've done it on about 4 gig before with no problems, but if you intend to use it properly, a good 10 at least
[01:41] <cafuego> hesperus: Some people insist on doing things the hard way. Unfortunately that means they can make it impossible for others to manage their Linux install properly.
[01:41] <Xenguy> WhiteDeth: minimum 4 Gb IIRC
[01:42] <mheath> Hmmm. I have a bunch of .deb files locally. What do I need to do to just dpkg -i one of them, and have it auto resolve dependencies using other local files?
[01:42] <darkanyel> DarkMageZ, but isnt a way to change the default programs of ubuntu??
[01:42] <WhiteDeth> Heh, awesome, im gonna be writing it over my Windows Vista partition, so that's a good 20GB there.
[01:42] <lupine_85> mheath: dpkg -i *deb would work better
[01:42] <hesperus> cafuego: i don't get you pal... what am i doing wrong?
[01:42] <cafuego> hesperus: Nothing. Not you :-)
[01:42] <mheath> lupine_85, well, I'm not sure I need all the packages. I just really need _one_, and any dependencies it happens to need.
[01:42] <lupine_85> ah
[01:42] <DarkMageZ> darkanyel, oh there is, i thought i remembered it, but i tried to find it again, but i couldn't.
[01:42] <hesperus> i'm downloading the 386 kernel again... let's see
[01:43] <stuh84> whitedeth: 20 gig is fine :) my ubuntu install on my other pc is 16 gig, 8 gig on this (although i'm not in it, still need to sort out the wireless on this laptop, but that will come in time)
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> TracerBullet: np
[01:43] <lupine_85> dpkg "might" resolve the dependencies if they're in the same dir.. but then again it might not
[01:43] <mdkaneda> i tried booting several restore discs, and nothing chroots into my environment. if i sit on ubuntu long enough, it says "mounting root file system" and eventually says "cant find root on hda2, going to shell" and i can get there, what can i type to chroot into my filesystem to change my fstab?
[01:43] <lupine_85> give it a try
[01:43] <cafuego> it doesn't.
[01:43] <Jay_Levitt> Anyone here know how to use saslpasswd2 and sasldb2 correctly?
[01:43] <funkygreendogs> anyone know What path should i put in the lilo config file to boot the Ubuntu kernel?
[01:43] <hesperus> ok, it's a bug
[01:43] <mheath> lupine_85, will do :) I guess if worst comes to worst I can always extract the pkg and look at the deps myself :)
[01:43] <hesperus>  /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/volatile/nvidia.ko exists !
[01:43] <setuid> How do I fix pmount/udev to remove devices from the desktop when I unplug them?
[01:43] <WhiteDeth> stuh84: Is there a list of all hardware compatible with Ubuntu's live CD? I'm actually looking to install XGL and Compiz, which is the main reason behind me installing Linux AT ALL.
[01:43] <stuh84> well cant you just do gksu gedit /etc/fstab?
[01:43] <hesperus> the 686 version doesn't exist at all! isn't that wierd?
[01:43] <lupine_85> hesperus: yep, deginitely a bug
[01:43] <lupine_85> !bugs
[01:43] <jrib> setuid: you should eject before you unplug
[01:43] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[01:44] <mdkaneda> no, because its not loading root... there is not /etc/fstab
[01:44] <setuid> jrib, that's not always possible, and it used to work
[01:44] <stuh84> ah yes right i get you now
[01:44] <stuh84> and no way of mounting within the livecd i take it too?
[01:44] <jrib> setuid: what device is this?
[01:44] <mdkaneda> hm, well havnt tried putting the graphical live cd in and mounting from that, maybe i should try that first
[01:45] <lupine_85> hesperus: so you can either do it "properly" and report the bug, maybe build a l-r-m with the module if you're any good at that sort of thing, or wait for it to be fixed... use a different kernel... or use the nvidia installer
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> len: I have an additional section for my nvidia  6600 Line 1:  Section "DRI"    then line 2    Mode	0666   then line 3  EndSection
[01:45] <stuh84> yeah seems like a good opton to me
[01:45] <lupine_85> that's in order of "ubuntu properness", of course
[01:45] <mdkaneda> alright, well i'll give that a shot, and if no-go then i'll come back. hehe
[01:45] <stuh84> whitedeth: doesn't really need to find a list, just put the cd in, reboot, and see if it works fine
[01:46] <WhiteDeth> oh, the Live CD doesnt install?
[01:46] <stuh84> as long as you have an nvidia or ati card though there are a furious amount of tutorials on how to setup XGL and compiz
[01:46] <setuid> jrib, CF card plugged into an external card reader over USB
[01:46] <WhiteDeth> does it just run like Knoppix? :\
[01:46] <lupine_85> nope :p
[01:46] <stuh84> yeah basically
[01:46] <grout> whens edgy eft supposed to be released?
[01:46] <lupine_85> and compiz-quinn is broken at the moment
[01:46] <len> Jack_Sparrow: I used to had that line 2, but it should make no difference since in Modules section i got Load "DRI" commented
[01:46] <WhiteDeth> that sucks. How do I have it installed on my system? :\
[01:46] <lupine_85> your best bet is to wait for beryl's first pre-release
[01:46] <hesperus> lupine_85: i'll use the default 386...
[01:46] <stuh84> you can install it from within the lice cd
[01:46] <stuh84> *live
[01:46] <stuh84> it has both options
[01:46] <WhiteDeth> ahh
[01:46] <lupine_85> ok. not much of a performance hit at all
[01:47] <WhiteDeth> so I try it out first, by just rebooting, and then install it.
[01:47] <WhiteDeth> am I right?
[01:47] <stuh84> even better than that
[01:47] <len> Jack_Sparrow: but I just added anyway
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> len: Someone better at that will need to help you...  I am stretched kinda thina atm
[01:47] <WhiteDeth> awesome, im running an nVidia 7900GS.
[01:47] <stuh84> you can install it from within the environment it loads up
[01:47] <WhiteDeth> oh?
[01:47] <stuh84> you just double click the install icon you'll get
[01:47] <WhiteDeth> wow. Where the hell have I been living!
[01:47] <WhiteDeth> this sounds awesome.
[01:47] <funkygreendogs> anyone know What path should i put in the lilo config file to boot the Ubuntu kernel?
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> WhiteDeth: Can you help Len with his..?
[01:47] <setuid> bleh
[01:48] <WhiteDeth> I'd love to, but it's my first time using Ubuntu :P
[01:48] <WhiteDeth> I've no experience.
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> WhiteDeth: np
[01:48] <len> lol
[01:48] <WhiteDeth> beta nVidia drivers?
[01:48] <stuh84> whitedeth: i have to say it took me by surprise when i first loaded up the live cd and saw the install
[01:48] <lupine_85> ooops :D
[01:48] <len> WhiteDeth: binary
[01:48] <stuh84> what took me even more by surprise is it all just worked too
[01:49] <lupine_85> *plonk*
[01:49] <ryanakca> cafuego: /query?
[01:49] <horizon> josefk> i couldnt do it but thnx anyway it s better to try through suse forums
[01:49] <cafuego> ryanakca: /which one?
[01:50] <lupine_85> WhiteDeth: assuming your "awesome" is about beryl/compiz, the nvidia beta drivers obsolete Xgl
[01:50] <lupine_85> well, sort of
[01:50] <lupine_85> it's only really useful in edgy
[01:50] <WhiteDeth> so wait...
[01:50] <WhiteDeth> XGL are simply drivers?
[01:50] <WhiteDeth> and Compiz is that awesome 3D-desktop thing?
[01:51] <lupine_85> no, Xgl is a big window
[01:51] <Cyberai> hey, I am running Dapper with a radeon 9200 video card and an Acer 19" widescreen LCD. My LCD supports 1440x900 as it's best native resolution, but when I set my resolution to that I get very dark weird color. I have to go down to 1280x768 to get anything useable. I tried doing a sudo dpkg reconfig on xorg but no luck.
[01:51] <WhiteDeth> sorry, im completely new to the scene.
[01:51] <lupine_85> compiz runs inside that big window, if you're using Xgl
[01:51] <stodge> Hi folks. I just installed Dapper Drake. How painless is the upgrade from it to Edgy?
[01:51] <Cyberai> does anyone have any insight on this problem?
[01:51] <lupine_85> AIGLX or the new nvidia drivers means that you don't use a big window any more
[01:51] <ArrenLex> Cyberai: driver?
[01:51] <jrib> stodge: edgy is still in development
[01:51] <WhiteDeth> OH
[01:51] <lupine_85> stodge: moderately painless
[01:51] <hesperus> what do "rc" and "ii" mean in dpkg -l ?
[01:51] <lupine_85> not recommended though
[01:51] <WhiteDeth> so it was as if it's emulated?
[01:51] <chuckyp> stodge, painless?  you might as well punch yourself in the junk.
[01:51] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, tried that, Im on the newest ATI
[01:51] <DarkMageZ> stodge, is it a clean dapper install or have you added 3rd party stuff :P
[01:52] <lupine_85> WhiteDeth: sort of.
[01:52] <ArrenLex> Cyberai: "newest ATI" = "ati"? "atimisc"? "radeon"? "fglrx"?
[01:52] <fourat> hello all
[01:52] <hesperus> the man page doesn't say anything :|
[01:52] <dodger> edgy runs smoothly. however, I would go from knot3
[01:52] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, let me look
[01:52] <stodge> Ah ok
[01:52] <WhiteDeth> so what im really looking for now is AIGLX and Compiz?
[01:52] <lupine_85> not really
[01:52] <fourat> how can i get the 2.6.28 kernel on my dapper drake ?
[01:52] <WhiteDeth> lupine: Is there a new version of Compiz that I should be looking at too?
[01:52] <stodge> That's a shame as Nautilus' slow speed is starting to grate on me
[01:52] <WhiteDeth> oh
[01:52] <fourat> (clean way)
[01:52] <lupine_85> beryl is a fork of compiz
[01:52] <WhiteDeth> heh. Im lost now.
[01:52] <lupine_85> #ubuntu-xgl
[01:52] <dodger> fourat: compile?
[01:52] <fredl> Cyberai, you know you're on the newest but you need to look which one you're using?
[01:53] <lupine_85> we're OT here
[01:53] <Cyberai> fredl, I ran sudo upgrade
[01:53] <Flannel> fourat: yeah, you can't 'cleanly'
[01:53] <jpzor> hello all... having trouble with v4l i have a bt848 card and getting this when i try to start up xawtv:
[01:53] <stodge> darkmagez: I've since installed NVIDIA drivers and F-Spot, TomBoy and Thunderbird
[01:53] <jpzor> xf86dganodirectvideomode
[01:53] <fredl> ah sudo upgrade... man I need to go to bed.
[01:53] <fredl> 'nite.
[01:53] <jpzor> X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode
[01:53] <jpzor>   Major opcode of failed request:  136 (XFree86-DGA)
[01:53] <jpzor>   Minor opcode of failed request:  1 (XF86DGAGetVideoLL)
[01:53] <jpzor>   Serial number of failed request:  13
[01:53] <jpzor>   Current serial number in output stream:  13
[01:53] <DarkMageZ> stodge, from the offical ubuntu repositories? or by hand?
[01:53] <Flannel> !paste
[01:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:54] <stodge> darkmagez: Official repositories
[01:54] <Cyberai> sorry fredl, I ran sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:54] <Cyberai> sorry
[01:54] <stodge> Haven't added any new repos
[01:54] <chuckyp> stodge, I would recommend a clean install but I did a dist-upgrade on one machine.  There will be errors though I can garantee that.
[01:54] <stodge> Ok maybe I'll wait. I'
[01:54] <stodge> I'll read the roadmap find out when the next release is
[01:54] <chuckyp> stodge, well if you have a seperate home partition what do you have to lose?
[01:54] <fredl> it's okay Cyberai I'm just uhh edgy shall we say :P
[01:54] <stodge> Not much - I'm just tired of re-installing Linux :)
[01:55] <DarkMageZ> stodge, it would be best to do a clean install of knot 3, but it is possible to do a clean dist-upgrade
[01:55] <chuckyp> DarkMageZ, exactly
[01:55] <stodge> knot 3? Not familiar with that
[01:55] <chuckyp> stodge, I dont' see the dist-upgrade failing I just don't think its that clean
[01:55] <alex222> any do i get the latest version of gnome baker (0.6)
[01:55] <dodger> stodge: knot3 is your friend
[01:55] <DarkMageZ> stodge, it's the name for the alpha of edgy :P
[01:55] <chuckyp> stodge, knot3 is the current version of edgy
[01:55] <stodge> Thanks chuckyp
[01:55] <stodge> Ah :)
[01:55] <stodge> Thanks all
[01:55] <alex222> The SPM only shows 0.5
[01:56] <stodge> I've been away from Ubuntu for a wee while and haven't followed the news
[01:56] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, fredl, I'm running xorg-driver-fglrx and xserver-xorg-driver-ati
[01:56] <hesperus> how can i disable the usplash stuff?
[01:57] <ArrenLex> Cyberai: fglrx, I'm assuming. DV or VGA? Anything special about your setup like dual head?
[01:57] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, VGA, nothing special
[01:57] <stodge> Is it possible to tell fspot where the photos should be stored?
[01:57] <ArrenLex> hesperus: you mean, the ubuntu bootsplash, so you can see the kernel messages?
[01:57] <hesperus> it's disabled from sysv-rc-conf, but i see it again on boot
[01:57] <spiderworm> hey all, ever since i started using xgl-compiz on this machine, the binaries in my ~/bin directory are no longer in my PATH, although the directory is still listed in my .bash_profile file..... anyone know anything about this?
[01:57] <ArrenLex> Cyberai: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:57] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, I just realized DRI was on, big no-no with ATI, could that be causing it?
[01:57] <hesperus> ArrenLex: yeap, i don't want any splash at all :)
[01:58] <ArrenLex> hesperus: it's in your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:58] <DarkMageZ> alex222, you need to ask for a backport of gnome-baker from edgy to dapper. edgy has 0.6
[01:58] <stumbles> Interesting... the "About Ubuntu" page provides no useful information about what "free software" and doesn't link to any place that does. It also makes no mention of the GNU project or the GNU GPL.
[01:58] <hesperus> ArrenLex: kernel option?
[01:58] <hesperus> let's see
[01:58] <ArrenLex> hesperus: find the option where it says whether to add splash to the entries and disable it. Then run grub-update.
[01:58] <dodger> hesperus I didn't try it, but removing splash from your kernel entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst should do the trick.
[01:58] <hesperus> i thought it was a boot service
[01:58] <ArrenLex> hes: or whatever the command is.
[01:58] <fredrich> anyone know if there's a .deb of sharehound circulating somewhere? it seems hard to install
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> spiderworm: How did you install xgl/compiz on your computer?  What tutorial?
[01:59] <chamo> any webmaster working on Ubuntu ? I got some caracters problem when I upload the page on the webserver, like on http://www.brigitte-ravenel.ch/brigitte.php
[01:59] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, http://paste.uni.cc/10393
[01:59] <dodger> chamo: that's a mess
[02:00] <ArrenLex> Cyberai: dude, man, if you don't know how to answer a question, tell us you don't know rather than making up bullshit.     Driver  "ati"
[02:00] <chamo> dodger: yeah, and I don't understand why on my local Apache server it works fine, but after upload online, it's a mess
[02:00] <ArrenLex> Cyberai: you're running the "ati" driver, not "fglrx".
[02:00] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, sorry DUDE, I looked it up in synaptic DUDE
[02:00] <ArrenLex> Cyberai: I suggest you change it to radeon, or else fglrx.
[02:01] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, wow
[02:01] <supermiguel> what is the easiest way to set up an ftp server?
[02:01] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, you know, there are lots of brands of decaf that are just as tasty at the regular coffee, try it
[02:01] <chamo> anyone ?
[02:01] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, but thanks for the help, sarcastic though it may be
[02:02] <ArrenLex> Cyberai: the use of the word "dude" doesn't imply I'm mad at you. xD I'm just pointing out that you might want to answer questions correctly.
[02:02] <ArrenLex> Cyberai: neither am I sarcastic.
[02:02] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: the wiki, same URL that the bot mentions when asking it about xgl
[02:02] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, I just resent being acussed of bulshitting
[02:02] <chamo> hehe
[02:02] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: i was in KDE at first and i was having the problem in kde
[02:03] <stuh84> chamo: best i can think of is some language packs issue, where its got language packs native to your editor
[02:03] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, sorry I didn't read your mond as to where to look it up
[02:03] <dodger> chamo: I guess your local apache is set up correctly for your french, but the one you upload to isn't. I see you are usinh php. as far as I know, php has to be comipled in a special way to use specail character sets.
[02:03] <ArrenLex> Cyberai: well what would your term for making up answers be?
[02:03] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: now im using gnome and having the same problem
[02:03] <stuh84> actually thinking about it no nevermind
[02:03] <stuh84> cos you'll have previewed it in your browser
[02:03] <stuh84> hmm
[02:03] <ArrenLex> Cyberai: that's fine! There are no problems with that. But if you're not sure let me know and I'll tell you.
[02:03] <stuh84> might be a php issue
[02:03] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, well let's see, when your reaching a contradiction, check your premises, one of them is wrong
[02:03] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: im wondering if the problem really is not compiz/xgl but instead a gnome-terminal setting, where it doesnt use the .bash_profile file?
[02:03] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, I looked in synaptic = not bullshit
[02:03] <Cyberai> geez
[02:04] <stuh84> dodger: i think thats what i was trying to get at
[02:04] <chamo> dodger, stuh84 : thanks. I'll dig into it. Hard to find a convenient solution.
[02:04] <THX-1138> Hi Jack_Sparrow
[02:04] <ArrenLex> Cyberai: synaptic tells you what packages you have installed, it doesn't say what driver you're currently using. I have the vesa package installed, but I'm definitely not using vesa.
[02:04] <spiderworm> yeah Jack_Sparrow i figured it out :) sheesh! thanks
[02:04] <ArrenLex> Speaking of which, why the hell do I have the vesa package installed? *removes*
[02:04] <Cyberai> arrogance like this is why windows people hate linux people. I'm a pretty long time linux guy and it ticks me off sometimes the attitude I get when I ask a question and I get atitude for not knowing exactly what someone means.
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> great
[02:05] <Cyberai> I can only imagine how it feels ota newbie
[02:05] <mabus> Cyberai: it looks like arrenlex is trying to help, relax
[02:05] <|thunder> wassup all.
[02:05] <hesperus> Cyberai: hey, chill out, ubuntu people are the less arrogant linux people IMHO
[02:05] <ArrenLex> Cyberai: a newbie would say "how do I find that out?" and things would progress quickly. The point I'm trying to make is that it's hard to help someone when they make up answers to your questions.
[02:05] <neom> Oh, hey! I tried the intel version of the ubundu liveCD on my macbook today, it like.. booted to some odd quake2 like menu with burning ubuntu and asked me how I wanted to install.. :S I didn't want to install.. I just wanted to run the liveCD to see what ubuntu looks like these day? :S
[02:05] <|thunder> whats the easiest way to burn an ISO to CD ?
[02:05] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: in the gnome terminal > edit > current profile > enable Run command as a login shell
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> spiderworm: Noted..
[02:06] <ArrenLex> neom: did you download the "desktop" or the "alternate" cd?
[02:06] <Xenguy> |thunder: k3b (unless you want command-line)
[02:06] <jrib> |thunder: right click on the .iso and select "write to disc..."
[02:06] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, that's my point. I didn't make it up. how hard is that for you to understand?
[02:06] <mabus> neom: what's the filename of the iso you downloaded
[02:06] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: but i suspect you already knew that
[02:06] <ArrenLex> !tell |thunder about !iso
[02:06] <stuh84> yeah was gonna say, sounds like you've got the wrong version
[02:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about !iso - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:06] <ArrenLex> /tell |thunder about !iso
[02:06] <ArrenLex> Whichever one of those works. xD
[02:06] <neom> edgy-alternate-i3866.iso :S
[02:06] <Cyberai> ArrenLex, I looked in the wrong place, BIG difference
[02:06] <stuh84> theres the prob
[02:06] <neom> I'm gonna presume I'm an idiot?
[02:06] <stuh84> dont get the alternate
[02:06] <neom> k
[02:07] <stuh84> :P you said it first neom
[02:07] <neom> :P
[02:07] <Xenguy> |thunder: growisofs -Z /dev/cdrom=____.iso    :-)
[02:07] <neom> I'm not afraid to admit my own incompetence. :D
[02:07] <Cyberai> anyway, off to restart X
[02:07] <mabus> neom: I'm presuming you got the wrong cd.
[02:07] <stuh84> its not your incompetence
[02:07] <chamo> dodger, stuh84 : tried with a copy in html format, same problem : http://www.brigitte-ravenel.ch/brigitte.html
[02:07] <THX-1138> thunder - gnomebaker is graphical cdrecord or cdrtools is commandline.
[02:07] <ArrenLex> Cyberai: fine, fine, honest mistake, let's proceed.
[02:07] <mabus> neom: But useful to have, no worries. Just download the right one, burn it, and keep your alternate cd.
[02:07] <stuh84> its everyone else is too intelligent :p
[02:07] <spiderworm> neom: I'm not afraid to admit your incompetence either.
[02:07] <mabus> ArrenLex: he's gone ;)
[02:07] <ArrenLex> Yay!
[02:07] <|thunder> noemWow thanks ArrenLex and Xenguy jrib and THX-1138 .   theres a million ways, lol
[02:08] <ArrenLex> That was annoying.
[02:08] <stuh84> the alternate is great for fixing grub i have to say
[02:08] <neom> Also, can the liveCD effect (negatively) my OS X partition?
[02:08] <|thunder> writing ubuntu32 at 8x on my 64x writer.   :)
[02:08] <stuh84> and just general repair/upgrades
[02:08] <ArrenLex> neom: no, the liveCD doesn't touch your disc.
[02:08] <mabus> neom: On the plus side, I didn't know the alternate cd was like the breezy install cd... I missed that form of installation over the desktop cd of dapper drake.
[02:09] <kitche> neom: unless you mess with the parition :)
[02:09] <ArrenLex> mabus: I know. I hate the graphical installer too; I installed from alternate.
[02:09] <mabus> neom: although you have the option to install off of the livecd with a VERY VERY simple program right on the desktop. It's like a 3 step gui questionaire.. easier than windows
[02:09] <stuh84> yep, heres a tip, dont open gparted :P
[02:09] <stuh84> otherwise known as the Gnome Partition Editor
[02:09] <THX-1138> mabus - Can i ask a question about DVD burning and the "Book Type" setting? - How do i see what model DVD drive i have?
[02:09] <dodger> chamo: you could try using quanta. when you type a special character, it offers you the correct html code for it.
[02:09] <stuh84> or as is mentioned the install
[02:09] <stuh84> just dont open either of the two and you'll be fine
[02:10] <kyja> how would I use qemu to boot up another linux distro =] 
[02:10] <stuh84> it'll be blindingly obvious that you've opened them though
[02:10] <ArrenLex> neom: to summarise everyone's frantic warnings: NO, unless you go to the icon clearly marked 'install now' and then click past five screens properly, intelligently set your partition options and then confirm it like twice.
[02:10] <stuh84> so dont worry about for want of a better phrase, twatting things up
[02:10] <ArrenLex> neom: aka no.
[02:10] <THX-1138> !qemu
[02:10] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[02:10] <neom> Alright, cool.
[02:10] <chamo> dodger: thanks. I heard it might be a BOM
[02:10] <chamo> due to SCITE
[02:10] <kyja> thx
[02:10] <neom> I thank you for your adivce guys!
[02:10] <dodger> chamo: BOM?
[02:11] <mog> hi
[02:11] <mog> can someone tell me how to fix the dapper drake issue with vncserver?
[02:11] <ArrenLex> mog: what issue is this now?
[02:11] <krazykit> mog: there's an issue?
[02:11] <chamo> dodger: http://unicode.org/faq/utf_bom.html#22
[02:11] <mog> it cant find the font
[02:11] <mog> directory
[02:11] <stuh84> right tatty byes time
[02:11] <mog> on my machine
[02:11] <ArrenLex> !enter
[02:11] <chamo> pourtant j'ai checker plusieurs fois la config de scite, mais rien vu sur utf8 cookie
[02:11] <mog> i just did an apt-get update upgrade
[02:11] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[02:11] <hesperus> oh, this is annoying... i fixed menu.lst (removed the splash) and every time the kernel is upgraded, apt-get messes my conf and splash comes back! how can i avoid that "automagical" wizardry?
[02:12] <ArrenLex> hesperus: I told you how to do it properly.
[02:12] <hesperus> ArrenLex: i commented the splash word, what should i do?
[02:12] <zoredache> hesperus: you could comment out the preinst and postinst hook in /etc/kernel-img.conf
[02:12] <ArrenLex> (17:58:35) ArrenLex: hesperus: find the option where it says whether to add splash to the entries and disable it. Then run grub-update.
[02:12] <Lam_> NetworkManager or KWifiManager?
[02:13] <dodger> chamo: never heard that before. what are you editing your file with?
[02:13] <hesperus> ArrenLex: sudo: grub-update: command not found
[02:13] <ArrenLex> hesperus: pastebin your menu.lst
[02:13] <ArrenLex> hesperus: update-grub.
[02:13] <ArrenLex> hes: apparently I'm lysdexic.
[02:13] <mog> krazykit, or ArrenLex anyy ideas?
[02:14] <mog> or is vncserver brokein dapper?
[02:14] <ArrenLex> mog: can you try running 'vncserver' and then pastebin the actual error message?
[02:14] <mog> yes i am
[02:14] <B|Charm> got a question for you all
[02:14] <ArrenLex> mog: you are what?
[02:14] <ArrenLex> !ask
[02:14] <jpzor> anybody having problems with TV tuner cards in dapper?
[02:14] <hesperus> ArrenLex: i did it. it messed my conf again.. :/
[02:14] <chalcedony> how do i get a flash player that works with ubuntu dapper
[02:14] <chalcedony> and if there is one, what might it be called?
[02:14] <ArrenLex> hesperus: pastebin your menu.lst
[02:14] <mog> could not open default font 'fixed'
[02:14] <krazykit> mog: it's that the fonts are in a different place than expected.  i recall there being some configuration options...
[02:14] <B|Charm> I have a usb mouse, how would I get that recognized?
[02:14] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:14] <hesperus> ok
[02:14] <mog> is the error
[02:14] <ArrenLex> chal: from adobe.com, and it's called "flash player".
[02:15] <ArrenLex> mog: are you able to start X?
[02:15] <chalcedony> ArrenLex: gee ty :) i could have guessed :)
[02:15] <mog> yes
[02:15] <mog> and the vncserver in gnome works
[02:15] <dougsko> **** anyone who wants to play a quiz in #ubuntu-trivia is welcome.
[02:15] <ArrenLex> B|Charm: are you experiencing problems? I never had any problems with my USB mice.
[02:15] <FoodStampz> Can someone help me with a problem im having with ubuntu @ a 7800GT PCIE
[02:16] <hesperus> ArrenLex: http://pastebin.ca/182423
[02:16] <DarkMageZ> chalcedony, there is a package in the multiverse repository by the name of flashplugin-nonfree
[02:16] <B|Charm> ArrenLex: Well, it just doesn't recognize
[02:16] <jpzor> foodstampz, whats the issue
[02:16] <B|Charm> ArrenLex: Wait thats a lie, it will recognize as in able to right click
[02:16] <simtower> lollerskates
[02:16] <FoodStampz> i installed ubuntu and after it starts up and I think it's getting ready to load the gui
[02:16] <Lam_> !wifi
[02:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:16] <B|Charm> ArrenLex: but won't move when I move
[02:16] <FoodStampz> i get snow
[02:16] <FoodStampz> i have pictures if you want to see them
[02:16] <jpzor> sure
[02:16] <jpzor> send them over
[02:17] <kamui> I got a wierd error when doing an apt-get remove, I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/var/lib/scrollkeeper/(null)/scrollkeeper_cl.xml"
[02:17] <kamui> ** (process:5956): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[02:17] <kamui> what does that mean?
[02:17] <chalcedony> DarkMageZ: wow ok :)
[02:17] <ArrenLex> hesperus: I'm not sure about this, because this same line is in my own menu.lst and it still doesn't make splash, but try changing line 65 to remove splash.
[02:17] <mog> are their files i need to symlink to get it to work, can you test it ArrenLex or anyone for that matter is vncserver package just broken
[02:17] <hayden> !grub
[02:17] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:17] <FoodStampz> jpzor ygpm
[02:18] <DarkMageZ> chalcedony, there is an even better version of it in the backports-multiverse repository 
[02:18] <ArrenLex> hesperus: and I can't do math either. 85.
[02:18] <jpzor> foodstampz, kk
[02:18] <FoodStampz> nm i see I cant do that
[02:18] <hesperus> ArrenLex: i know how to remove it, but every time the kernel will be upgraded, the conf will be messed again... i want to avoid that
[02:18] <FoodStampz> ill just post the link here
[02:18] <FoodStampz> http://www.futuremark.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20153
[02:18] <jpzor> kk
[02:18] <DarkMageZ> chalcedony, it is only flash player 7 tho... flash 9 is currently being worked on for linux 
[02:19] <chalcedony> DarkMageZ: multiserv repository? that'd be synaptic package manager, or ad/remove ?
[02:19] <zoredache> hesperus: you could comment out the preinst and postinst hook in /etc/kernel-img.conf... that is what the kernel scripts used to figure out how to update the bootloader
[02:19] <jpzor> foodstampz, did you install the nvidia-glx
[02:19] <ArrenLex> hesperus: the options for the "Debian Automagic Kernels List" are created based on the default options you specify above. Line 85 is part of those default options. So if you remove splash from line 85, it SHOULD stop adding splash to the kernel lines when it generates them.
[02:19] <FoodStampz> i just did the normal install
[02:19] <jpzor> i had the same issues
[02:19] <FoodStampz> i didnt even get to gnome
[02:19] <jpzor> ok, i can help :-)
[02:19] <thinkweird> is here anyone using ubuntu on a thinkpad t43?
[02:19] <FoodStampz> thank god
[02:19] <FoodStampz> :D
[02:19] <DarkMageZ> chalcedony, system > administration > software properties
[02:19] <thinkweird> what about the hardware support?
[02:19] <B|Charm> thinkweird: I am
[02:20] <supermiguel> edit "builddefs.h" to handle compile-time settings (tcp_wrappers build,
[02:20] <supermiguel> etc).
[02:20] <DarkMageZ> chalcedony, try and enable multiverse and backports multiverse
[02:20] <supermiguel> what is that mean
[02:20] <thinkweird> b|charm: does it has fan control? what hardware is not supported?
[02:20] <chamo> dodger : SCITE
[02:20] <jpzor> foodstampz, i opened a new window to talk to u in
[02:20] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Yes.
[02:20] <FoodStampz> ok
[02:20] <FoodStampz> i had one but the system tells me
[02:20] <TracerBullet> libtiff4-dev: Depends: libtiff4 (=3.7.4-1ubuntu3) but 3.7.4-1ubuntu3.2 is to be installed
[02:20] <B|Charm> thinkweird: yes it has fan control
[02:20] <FoodStampz> its not allowed cuz of spam
[02:20] <chalcedony> ty working at it now DarkMageZ :)
[02:20] <B|Charm> thinkweird: as for hardware supported you should ask me what hardware you want
[02:21] <jpzor> kk
[02:21] <TracerBullet> any idea how to overcome the above dependency problem ?
[02:21] <B|Charm> thinkweird: and I could say yes or no
[02:21] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Only thing that wasn't ootb for me was the modem, which works with the linuxant driver ($20).
[02:21] <supermiguel> edit "builddefs.h" to handle compile-time settings (tcp_wrappers build,etc).
[02:21] <supermiguel> what is that
[02:21] <FoodStampz> aol icq msn or yahoo?
[02:21] <thinkweird> I don't need modem anyway.
[02:21] <jpzor> alirght, you need to login as root,
[02:21] <B|Charm> thinkweird: good to go then
[02:21] <FoodStampz> ok
[02:21] <jpzor> or do this:
[02:21] <jpzor> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:21] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, B|Charm I have firegl v3200 ati
[02:21] <thinkweird> does it supported?
[02:21] <anto9us> *ding dong* This is a public announcement. A quiz is now starting in #ubuntu-trivia. Come join us to exercise your ubuntu brain muscle or even learn from the posers. Be there or be square. Thank you for your co-operation. *dong ding*
[02:21] <hesperus> ArrenLex: here's another bug. if i remove only the splash word, everything is ok. if i remove both splash and quiet, then both these arguments are passed in the kernel!
[02:22] <jpzor> sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common
[02:22] <thinkweird> B|Charm, haven't used linux for about half a year. got a bit rusty
[02:22] <bimberi> mog: 'cd /usr/X11R6/lib/X11'  then  'sudo ln -s /usr/share/X11/fonts fonts'
[02:22] <jpzor> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:22] <B|Charm> thinkweird: haha not a problem, just got in the game myself
[02:22] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, your machine is a t43 as well?
[02:22] <B|Charm> thinkweird: and yes it does
[02:22] <ArrenLex> hesperus: I haven't messed with it very much. I don't know why it does that. Maybe the evil kernel-option-passing gnomes are doing it.
[02:22] <jpzor> replace "nv" with "nvidia"
[02:22] <thinkweird> what game? B|Charm
[02:22] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: I'm not sure, since I have the ati m x300, but there are charts on the wiki you could check.  You'll be able to get a successful startup I'm sure, it's just a question of what you need to do and if you can get good acceleration.
[02:23] <B|Charm> thinkweird: the linux game ;)
[02:23] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Yeah, T43 2668-49U
[02:23] <jpzor> then do: nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:23] <lcohen> Hi all, I have kitchensync-opensync but when i setup my syncml, it never connects, always stuck at ready...
[02:23] <B|Charm> tonyyarusso: Team ThinkPad t43 WOOT
[02:23] <tonyyarusso> hehe
[02:23] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, B|Charm  do you guys feel fan is bit loud?
[02:24] <B|Charm> thinkweird: all the time
[02:24] <thinkweird> in a quet room and it just hmming on, non-stopping.
[02:24] <hesperus> ArrenLex: ok, i've put a space and now it seems ok =)
[02:24] <thinkweird> B|Charm, it is on all the time?
[02:24] <B|Charm> thinkweird: oh mine only runs when needed
[02:24] <B|Charm> thinkweird: nope
[02:24] <ArrenLex> hesperus: spaces are the saviour of us all. Hail!
[02:24] <thinkweird> B|Charm, mine is on all the time.
[02:24] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: It varies.  Sometimes it seems on the high end, but so is my temp, so it prolly should be.
[02:24] <jpzor> if it doesn't work after reboot,  let me know, cuz i will get you going after that
[02:24] <FoodStampz> should i do that from the safemode prompt?
[02:25] <jpzor> as long as you are root running those commands
[02:25] <FoodStampz> ok
[02:25] <FoodStampz> alright im gunna go try it
[02:25] <FoodStampz> brb
[02:25] <jpzor> it shouldn't matter
[02:25] <jpzor> kk
[02:25] <thinkweird> B|Charm, tonyyarusso   you know, mine is on all the time and I am hesitating of return this machine.
[02:25] <FoodStampz> thanks
[02:25] <thinkweird> B|Charm, tonyyarusso  so your fans are not on all the time?
[02:25] <B|Charm> thinkweird: nah don't return it, you can control when it runs
[02:26] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Well, I think they're probably on all the time, but they aren't always at max speed.
[02:26] <thinkweird> B|Charm, I can indeed but I think why ibm does not make it better.
[02:26] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, don't you feel that it is irritating?
[02:26] <B|Charm> thinkweird: haha, IBM has had some issues these past few years with things that should be simple
[02:26] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: There are some nifty scripts at the ThinkWiki for fan control, although I haven't gotten around to trying them yet.
[02:26] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Only mildly, and certain less so than the latest Windows virus.
[02:26] <kitche> B|Charm: anyways IBM only does servers now and have been for a long time
[02:27] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, so surprised you can take it when the fan is on all the time.
[02:27] <thinkweird> B|Charm, how long have you got your t43?
[02:27] <B|Charm> thinkweird: mmmm about 4 months
[02:27] <B|Charm> thinkweird: before I had a t42
[02:28] <thinkweird> B|Charm, I have another question about the keyboard: my left ctrl key alreay got a little squeaky.
[02:28] <thinkweird> and not so responsive after I got it for only five days.
[02:28] <B|Charm> thinkweird: interesting, what did you spill on it?
[02:29] <dragonflyseven> Sorry, quick question. I just started IRCing, and I was wondering if there were any less hectic, less specialized rooms anyone could recomend.
[02:29] <thinkweird> B|Charm, tonyyarusso honestly, I don't think thinkpad is as good as it is rumored. actually I am a little disappointed
[02:29] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Anything besides the fan?
[02:29] <B|Charm> thinkweird: like any other laptop it will have it's downfalls however I really do enjoy the laptop
[02:30] <B|Charm> thinkweird: and i'm a picky boy
[02:30] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, no.
[02:30] <thinkweird> just the fan. I really need it to be quiet.
[02:30] <thinkweird> B|Charm, are you running any fan control scripts?
[02:31] <B|Charm> thinkweird: I am not, but I will find you the link to them
[02:31] <krazykit> dragonflyseven: for what?  there are zillions of channels on tons of networks.
[02:31] <B|Charm> thinkweird: give me a second, what is your OS?
[02:31] <Skrot> Hi. Is there a way to turn alsa off (and remove snd_ modules) in ubuntu?
[02:31] <Bird> How do I run gst-register?
[02:31] <kitche> dragonflyseven: it all depends what your looking for really
[02:31] <krazykit> Skrot: you could just unload the alsa modules and add them to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[02:31] <thinkweird> B|Charm, windows
[02:31] <B|Charm> ok let me check it out for you
[02:31] <dragonflyseven> Good point. Any site listing channels by topic?
[02:32] <B|Charm> give me a few, I need a smoke
[02:32] <thinkweird> B|Charm, I know there is a program that controls fan speed.
[02:32] <Skrot> krazykit: I don't want to do that. I want to remove them and reprobe them with different arguments.. trying to figure out surround sound :)
[02:32] <Bird> Did anyone here hear how Hulk Hogan just died?
[02:32] <thinkweird> B|Charm, but I guess I am more picky than you. since I believe ibm should have done it.
[02:32] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, how long have you kept your thinkpad?
[02:33] <krazykit> Skrot: oh, then just rmmod the modules.  lsmod will list them, and you can grep the snd_ modules
[02:33] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Got it in June of last year.
[02:33] <kitche> thinkweird: why are you calling lenvo ibm? they are two seperate companies
[02:33] <Skrot> krazykit: Problem is; the snd_ modules are in use, so it won't let me rmmod them
[02:33] <thinkweird> kitche, I know. but I think ibm is a better brand. btw, I am chinese
[02:33] <thinkweird> :)
[02:33] <Skrot> krazykit: FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel is in use. :>
[02:33] <krazykit> Skrot: rmmod -f
[02:34] <thinkweird> kitche, I don't trust local brands.
[02:34] <krazykit> Skrot: or do lsof on all the /dev nodes that have to do with sound and kill the processes using them
[02:34] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Well, I also think IBM is a better brand, so maybe the fact that they're Lenovo is part of our problem?
[02:34] <bimberi> dragonflyseven: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist
[02:34] <kitche> thinkweird: well lenvo been making ibm laptops for about 5 years now in reality
[02:34] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, no, t43 is still ibm. I like this machine before I noticed the noisy fan.
[02:34] <xMorphix> kitche: THAT was the name of them
[02:35] <thinkweird> thinkweird, I hate to tweak a brand new laptop just to make it work quitely.
[02:35] <dragonflyseven> bimberi: thank you.
[02:35] <FoodStampz> exit
[02:35] <chalcedony> what's Xfmedia? it says Lightweight media player below it, is that one i want?
[02:35] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, you stay in a noisy environment?
[02:35] <bimberi> dragonflyseven: yw :)
[02:35] <xMorphix> thinkweird: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_fan_noise
[02:36] <xMorphix> thinkweird: now let me see if they have something for you window users
[02:36] <thinkweird> xMorphix, thanks.
[02:36] <Thuryn> yo
[02:36] <gopss> Hi
[02:36] <aswp> sup
[02:36] <ziro01> Hello
[02:36] <thinkweird> xMorphix, yes.
[02:36] <A-L-P-H-A> Hi, how stop X and get straight to the terminal?  I want to install new video drivers, as the current nvidia drivers are causing an issue.
[02:36] <Thuryn> secret
[02:36] <gopss> that's a secret
[02:36] <thinkweird> xMorphix, I was a debian user.
[02:36] <jpzor> foodstampz, any luck?
[02:36] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Not particularly.  My room and uni lectures.  The T43 is actually manufactured by Lenovo now though, they're just allowed to use the IBM branding on it - IBM does not manufacture them even though they have the logo.
[02:37] <krazykit> A-L-P-H-A: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:37] <chalcedony> wb FoodStampz
[02:37] <FoodStampz> thanks
[02:37] <profoX`> is it just me or does the fglrx driver not allow direct rendering in 2 separate X servers ?
[02:37] <FoodStampz> jpzor, i got it working now thanks to you :)
[02:37] <FoodStampz> now I have another question
[02:37] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, don't you think it is ridiculous that other brands does not have fan running all the while and all the pad fans still like thinkpads, noisy
[02:37] <jpzor> foodstampz, thats great!
[02:37] <krazykit> profoX`: that's how it is.  ATI drivers are junk.
[02:37] <jpzor> whats your next q
[02:37] <aswp> don't know
[02:37] <FoodStampz> 60hz refresh = death
[02:38] <ziro01> dunno
[02:38] <FoodStampz> i tried to turn it up but it wont go
[02:38] <mdkaneda> alright, i'm in Ubuntu's graphical LiveCD.. i need to mount my root partition with read/write permissions located at /dev/hdb2   how do i do so within this live cd so i can figure out why its not booting??!?
[02:38] <jpzor> what monitor do you have
[02:38] <FoodStampz> kds xflat
[02:38] <profoX`> krazykit: are you sure about that? that fglrx doesnt support 2 X servers running direct rendering?
[02:38] <krazykit> profoX`: positive.
[02:38] <Admiral_Chicago> mdkaneda, use the mount command
[02:38] <profoX`> krazykit: wow.. thats... erm.. extremely junky
[02:38] <xMorphix> thinkweird: http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?p=158780&sid=f35af9a2972edda7460c433ffa75e75e
[02:38] <profoX`> :/
[02:38] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt/
[02:38] <FoodStampz> it supports 85hz @ 1024x768
[02:38] <FoodStampz> drive issue
[02:38] <FoodStampz> ?
[02:39] <simtower> anyone can use my computer with ubuntu at work?
[02:39] <mdkaneda> admiral: thanx
[02:39] <xMorphix> thinkweird: and there are some other forums with that, that will tell you how to drop it down and off
[02:39] <jpzor> foodstampz, you need to edit your xorg.conf file again
[02:39] <thinkweird> xMorphix, you are using a thinkpad as well?
[02:39] <profoX`> krazykit: so how am i supposed to play my 3D games now without accelerated Xnest or seperate X server, now I run XGL by default :/
[02:39] <FoodStampz> joy!
[02:39] <jpzor> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:39] <chalcedony> did DarkMageZ go off? i found something .. got a question again: what's Xfmedia? it says Lightweight media player below it, is that one i want?
[02:39] <xMorphix> thinkweird: I am charm
[02:39] <profoX`> worked fine on my nvidia box
[02:39] <Victorssss> when me go install one program on my linux ubuntu happened this text "you dont have support for tcl.. you need install the tcltls for this" how do i this?
[02:39] <thinkweird> charm?
[02:39] <krazykit> profoX`: you go and buy an nvidia card
[02:39] <xMorphix> thinkweird: and yes
[02:39] <jpzor> foodstampz, gimme one sec
[02:39] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Every brand will have its issues, and if I have to have one, the fan is pretty minor.
[02:39] <thinkweird> xMorphix, ? what do  you mean by charm?
[02:39] <FoodStampz> ok
[02:39] <DarkMageZ> chalcedony, for flashplayer you want to install the flashplugin-nonfree package :P
[02:39] <xMorphix> thinkweird: I just changed my nickname
[02:40] <xMorphix> thinkweird: ;)
[02:40] <chalcedony> DarkMageZ: non-free ?
[02:40] <profoX`> krazykit: its a laptop......
[02:40] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, tell me more about the goodies of thinkpad. cause this is my first laptop and I have no way to compare
[02:40] <Victorssss> when me go install one program on my linux ubuntu happened this text "you dont have support for tcl.. you need install the tcltls for this" how do i this? everyone can me help?
[02:40] <profoX`> thinkweird: the drivebay can be pulled out :P
[02:40] <thinkweird> xMorphix, ok. morphix, also debian flavored. thanks
[02:40] <profoX`> but you need support for that, a kernel module
[02:40] <ablyss> anyone know what this means Sep 25 20:40:19 localhost kernel: [247774.765006]  VFS: busy inodes on changed media.
[02:40] <profoX`> see thinkwiki :)
[02:40] <profoX`> www.thinkwiki.org interesting site thinkweird
[02:40] <DarkMageZ> chalcedony, unfortunantly... adobe doesn't give us the sourcecode to the flashplayer... it's free but it's not opensource. i suppose the naming is confusing
[02:40] <simtower> thinkwiki is the best
[02:41] <simtower> #ubuntu-laptop FTW
[02:41] <krazykit> profoX`: you're out of luck then until the xorg drivers either support your card (9600 and below now, i think) or until ATI decides to release drivers that aren't junk.
[02:41] <thinkweird> profoX`, and why should I pull out drive bay?
[02:41] <Admiral_Chicago> Victorssss, open up a terminal and type sudo apt-get install tcltls
[02:41] <Victorssss> everyone help me?
[02:41] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Well, I had someone sit on mine and it still works, for one.
[02:41] <profoX`> thinkweird: i dont know.. just because you CAN !
[02:41] <wanted> How can i devide/duplicate server x in two displays???
[02:41] <jpzor> foodstampz
[02:41] <chalcedony> DarkMageZ: phew :) ty scared me!
[02:41] <FoodStampz> yeayh
[02:41] <Admiral_Chicago> Victorssss, open up a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install tcltls"
[02:41] <jpzor> foodstampz, follow this link: it should get you started on fixing it: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[02:42] <jpzor> good luck!!!
[02:42] <jpzor> :-D
[02:42] <profoX`> thinkweird: just because you can hotswap (switch) the drive bay with another device on the fly while the os is running
[02:42] <thinkweird> thinkweird, ok. that's good.
[02:42] <FoodStampz> thanks for all the help man :D
[02:42] <simtower> !laptop
[02:42] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[02:42] <profoX`> thinkweird: very solid notebooks
[02:42] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, that's good.
[02:42] <jpzor> np bro
[02:42] <profoX`> thinkweird: and erm.. good linux support
[02:42] <jpzor> have fun!
[02:42] <profoX`> they look ugly though imo, but thats just my opinion
[02:42] <FoodStampz> thanks
[02:42] <profoX`> and they are expensive :/
[02:42] <thinkweird> profoX`, ok. how long do you think it is gonna last? how many years?
[02:42] <thinkweird> profoX`, if I use carefully
[02:42] <mdkaneda> IS there any reason why ubuntu is looking for my root filesystem on hda2 when my /etc/fstab says / is hdb2?
[02:43] <tonyyarusso> I like the look; simple and professional.  I don't need it to be flowery, I need it to be a functional machine, so that's good.
[02:43] <Boelcke> Command Line Question: How can I read each line of a text file, but one at a time?  I know how to grep for something, but not how to go through each line...
[02:43] <jpzor> i need help with my tv tuner card: i get an error on xawtv saying DGA is not working
[02:43] <thinkweird> profoX`, you know. lenovo sells t60 with linux support 800 dollars higher than windows
[02:43] <Boelcke> mdkaneda, it would help to see your fstab...
[02:43] <Victorssss> hey Admiral_Chicago.. show this.. "cannot find the pack tcltls" what do i?
[02:43] <roberts> Hi, I'm trying to compile projectM, and it keeps telling me "make: command not found" even though I have (multiple versions of) GCC installed.
[02:43] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, for two...?
[02:44] <crimsun> roberts: build-essential, too?
[02:44] <Admiral_Chicago> tonnyyarusso is a robot
[02:44] <krazykit> roberts: install build-essential
[02:44] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, what kind of screen you have? what graphic card?
[02:44] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Sweetest keyboard I've had the pleasure of typing on.
[02:44] <roberts> Thanks!
[02:44] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: 14.1", 1024x768 default res, ATI Radeon Mobility X300.
[02:44] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, does it make some sounds when you type or it is just silent?
[02:44] <Victorssss> hey Admiral_Chicago.. show this.. "cannot find the pack tcltls" what do i? do you know?
[02:45] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, mine makes some sounds when typing.
[02:45] <bimberi> Boelcke: 'less file' and use the Enter key to show one line at a time
[02:45] <Admiral_Chicago> Victorssss, hold on
[02:45] <zoredache> Boelcke: one fairly common way is with a for command that is somewhat like  for line in `cat filename`
[02:45] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Depends how I hit the keys.  It's not perfectly silent, but it's darn quiet, and very ergonomic.
[02:45] <Stix09> hey, im trying to install from the live cd, and while its booting everything goes fine until it trys to start the "Enterprise Volume Managment System", at which point it displays the error "Buffer I/O errer of device dm-1 logical block 3215852"
[02:45] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, do you think it really makes a difference between resolutions?  xgv or sxgv?
[02:45] <Admiral_Chicago> you have to enable universe
[02:46] <Admiral_Chicago> !repo > Victorssss
[02:46] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: No idea
[02:46] <Stix09> and then it keeps on repeating this and another error over and over
[02:46] <Boelcke> bimberi, I'm trying to write a script that does some things with each line of the file.  So, it seems like I'd want to get a line, then go execute other commands, and then get the next line.
[02:46] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, you like your screen?
[02:46] <supermiguel> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[02:46] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Yeah.
[02:46] <supermiguel> there is any way to fiz that
[02:46] <supermiguel> fix*
[02:46] <grouchytim> Stix09:  did you check the volume before the install?
[02:46] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, did you watch some movies on it? how is it like?
[02:46] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: I also like having the dual tracking devices.
[02:46] <Stix09> im not trying to install anything im just trying to boot the live cd
[02:46] <supermiguel> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[02:46] <Flannel> thinkweird: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Video_Standards.PNG  decide for yourself ;)
[02:47] <grouchytim> check the cd     it probably won't pass check sum
[02:47] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, the reason I ask is that mine is 15" uxga and the font is a bit small.
[02:47] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Yeah, I've watched some, worked fine.  It's no big screen plasma TV, but it's fully functional for a group of college kids to watch something.
[02:47] <Victorssss> everyone help me?
[02:47] <Stix09> it passed fine
[02:47] <bimberi> Boelcke: ah, i'd use Python for that
[02:47] <Stix09> and its the 3rd cd ive burned with the same problem
[02:47] <grouchytim> hmmm
[02:47] <Lam_> NetworkManager applet or KWifiManager?
[02:47] <bimberi> Boelcke: but a bash script would be possible too
[02:47] <Stix09> what is enterprise volume managment system and can i disable it while booting the live cd
[02:47] <thinkweird> Flannel, already got one. but think I just spent more since I can settle with 1024x768
[02:48] <Boelcke> bimberi, Ah.  I'm just working on figuring out how to use bash, and I've been thinking that I'd need to learn Python or Perl at some point.  I was hoping to get by on this task with just bash...
[02:48] <simtower> ur may be wrong thinkweird
[02:48] <thinkweird> simplydazed, why
[02:48] <simtower> it might not be quite that simple... you tend to need more
[02:49] <bimberi> Boelcke: yes bash can do it, but i don't know how off the top of my head :)
[02:49] <mdkaneda> boelcke: can i send u my fstab so u can help me w/ my dilemma? if ur not too busy. seems like such a simple issue, but i'm pullin my hair out
[02:49] <simtower> u know?
[02:49] <thinkweird> simtower, you mean more screen resolution? or I am too paranoid with my laptop?
[02:49] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, what is  your previous laptop?
[02:49] <simtower> yes thinkweird more resolution
[02:49] <simtower> i have 1024x768 but its not enough
[02:49] <Boelcke> All, is there a simple place mdkaneda can paste fstab?  I thought there was a site for that...
[02:49] <krazykit> Boelcke: if you want to edit text on each line, maybe check out sed
[02:49] <Flannel> !paste
[02:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:50] <Stix09> i also get the error "[17179670.82000]  ata1: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/40 to SCSI sk/ASC/ASCQ 0x3/11/04" that also repeats and some of the numbers change, anyone know how to fix this
[02:50] <thinkweird> simtower, have you got glx working? I think it is really cool.
[02:50] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, you have glx working?
[02:50] <simtower> you mean compiz/xgl?
[02:50] <twopoint0_> when i try to change the theme, it tells me that it needs tar.gz, however, when i give it the theme i want to apply, it tells me the file format is not valid
[02:50] <Stix09> or can i simply disable EVMS from starting in the live cd with a boot option?
[02:50] <thinkweird> simtower, yes
[02:50] <mdkaneda> Boelcke: i've got webspace. hold on. lol
[02:50] <Boelcke> krazykit, I've been checking out sed and awk.  I figured out an awk command to do the interesting/complicated part, and now I'm struggling with the simple part!
[02:50] <supermiguel> does
[02:50] <simtower> yes it works on my laptop but i keep it turned off
[02:50] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: A Compaq from 1996 and a Toshiba Satellite from 1993/4.
[02:51] <supermiguel> any one know how to work with gproftpd
[02:51] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Haven't tried any of the fancy stuff yet, but soon.
[02:51] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, and know you are in college. how lucky you are to be able to have two laptops boefore enter university.
[02:51] <Boelcke> mdkaneda, you can also go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:52] <zkorpio> hi everybody
[02:52] <tonyyarusso> thinkweird: Those ones were the hand-me-downs from my parents when they bought new ones ;)
[02:52] <thinkweird> simtower, why?
[02:52] <thinkweird> simtower, it is so cool
[02:52] <simtower> it seem like a little too much performance hit for everyday use
[02:52] <zkorpio> anyone knows if ubuntu has a lot of programs for 64bits?
[02:52] <twopoint0_> why does it tell me the theme i want to load is an invalid file format if it's in tar.gz format
[02:52] <simtower> i only have 1.6ghz
[02:52] <thinkweird> tonyyarusso, I see.
[02:52] <simtower> and a crappy radeon
[02:52] <thinkweird> simtower, radeon what?
[02:52] <thinkweird> simtower, which series?
[02:53] <thinkweird> profoX`, you were xMorphix?
[02:53] <writingdesk> zkorpio: Yeah, but no flash, and no wine ( unless chroot in 32 bit)
[02:53] <simtower> radeon 9000 mobility
[02:53] <simtower> it also get very hot when xgl is on
[02:53] <Stix09> anybody know how to boot the live cd if EVMS give you a translated ATA error while loading?
[02:53] <mick> which program would you reccomend for torrents? i tried azureas, but it hogs cpu like crazy
[02:53] <thinkweird> simtower, which brand you have , I mean your laptop
[02:53] <simtower> i put some better cooling putty on it but didn't help much
[02:54] <simtower> ibm thinkpad
[02:54] <simtower> r51
[02:54] <thinkweird> simtower, so strange. so many linuxers use thinkpads.
[02:54] <AlReece45> I'm having trouble getting my sound to work.
[02:54] <simtower> it is a very nice laptop... except for the screen which is pretty crappy
[02:54] <zkorpio> writingdesk: do you know if there is any distro with fully support 64 bits (non chroot32)
[02:54] <thinkweird> simtower, and developed such a brand loyalty to it. even though it has many problems
[02:55] <thinkweird> simtower, why crappy? dark?
[02:55] <krazykit> zkorpio: they're all the same in that regard.
[02:55] <thinkweird> simtower, define nice?
[02:55] <simtower> no, it is bright, but there is a huge gamma shift when you change the vertical viewing angle by only 10 degrees
[02:55] <simtower> so, a solid black screen looks more like a sublte gradient
[02:55] <simtower> it is very annoying
[02:55] <zkorpio> krazykit i try centos but i can not get running monodevelop and another
[02:56] <mdkaneda> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24841     -- there's my fstab (think thats the link) anyways, if someone could tell me whats wrong w/ this. its not loading my root from hdb2, its looking at hda2 for some reason
[02:56] <thinkweird> simtower, so it is gamma. you mean contrast is not so good.
[02:56] <krazykit> zkorpio: it doesn't matter what you run.  all the distros have the same 64-bit support
[02:56] <thinkweird> simtower, why do you need to change gamma? for view angles?
[02:56] <simtower> no, contrast is fine it is just variable depending on the vertical angle of the display
[02:56] <robert_> how do I build debian packages from source?
[02:56] <simtower> if you tilt it up or down the gamma changes dramatically
[02:56] <thinkweird> simtower, ok. I see.
[02:56] <hesperus> why is that? -> tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[02:57] <zkorpio> krazykit: i am thinking to try ubuntu or kubuntu but i am not sure if there are problems with 64bits
[02:57] <thinkweird> simtower, why not just tip the screen?
[02:57] <samuel> is there an xwinwrap equivalent for aiglx?
[02:57] <simtower> all lcd screens have that problem but this one is pretty bad
[02:57] <hesperus> the closed modules get lost on reboot! why tmpfs?
[02:57] <krazykit> zkorpio: like i said, you'll see the same 64-bit issues across all distros.
[02:57] <thinkweird> simtower, why not tip the screen instead?
[02:57] <thinkweird> simtower, is glx hard to implement?
[02:57] <thinkweird> simtower, your cards are supported but I don't think mine is supported.
[02:57] <simtower> it doesn't matter how you tip the screen, it is still different between the top and the bottom
[02:58] <simtower> the top is always lighter than the bottom
[02:58] <simtower> even if they are the same color
[02:58] <Lam_> anyone else have a broadcom card and notice that the NetworkManager doesn't show strength indicators for networks nearby?
[02:58] <thinkweird> simtower, I see. I have a flexview and there should ben a problem.
[02:58] <krazykit> Lam_: known bug.  the broadcom drivers are still under heavy development
[02:58] <kyja> I have 2 usb sticks that are plugged in all the time and dont always mount on startup. I have to mount manualy with sudo. what is up with that?
[02:58] <simtower> kyja, edit your fstab
[02:59] <kyja> ok
[02:59] <mdkaneda> Boelcke: did u take a look at my fstab yet?
[02:59] <Lam_> krazykit: ok good. just checking
[02:59] <simtower> sometime the automounter not work so good
[02:59] <Boelcke> Ah, I found my (how to print a line in bash) solution.  sed '52q;d' file.txt
[02:59] <kyja> !fstab
[02:59] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[02:59] <thinkweird> simtower, on thinkpad?
[02:59] <hesperus> can someone enlighten me why the closed modules get installed on tmpfs (ram)??
[02:59] <simtower> thinkweird, huh?
[02:59] <Nrbelex> Where can I find support for the VNC in Ubuntu?
[02:59] <thinkweird> simtower, automount...
[02:59] <thinkweird> simtower, I see . another person.
[03:00] <simtower> yes kyja had problem with usb sticks
[03:00] <variant> anyone know what package xfce-bglist-editor is part of?
[03:00] <supermiguel> does any one know how to make an ftp server?
[03:00] <hesperus> this is mind boggling!
[03:00] <simtower> supermiguel, you can run a ftp server on ubuntu
[03:00] <variant> supermiguel: apt-get install gproftp
[03:00] <Nrbelex> anyone - VNC?
[03:00] <variant> supermiguel: its easy
[03:00] <somethingelse> hi
[03:01] <hesperus> anyone ???
[03:01] <supermiguel> gproftpd?
[03:01] <variant> supermiguel: apt-get install gproftpd
[03:01] <variant> supermiguel: yeah
[03:01] <simtower> hesperus, ?
[03:01] <Boelcke> mdkaneda, what message, exactly, are you getting about it looking for root on hda2?
 can someone enlighten me why the closed modules get installed on tmpfs (ram)??
[03:01] <supermiguel> i dont know how to use it :(
[03:01] <somethingelse> is it possible to change an ethernet device name?  for example: eth4 to eth0 ?
[03:01] <tonyyarusso> Nrbelex: You mean just to enable it?
[03:01] <variant> supermiguel: then run it.. its quite obvious how to set up
 why is that? -> tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[03:01] <hesperus> thus i lose my modules on reboot!
[03:01] <Boelcke> Since you don't even HAVE an hda2 in your fstab, I can see why you're frustrated!
[03:01] <supermiguel> when i click on online it doesnt start :(
[03:02] <variant> supermiguel: you sure abou thtat?
[03:02] <supermiguel> yep
[03:02] <tonyyarusso> Nrbelex: System > Preferences > Remote Desktop
[03:02] <variant> supermiguel: run /etc/init.d/proftpd start
[03:02] <hesperus> simplydazed: why is that?
[03:02] <mdkaneda> Boelcke: it sits at mounting root file system, then says "waiting for root file system" if i let it sit long enough it will throw me to a bash prompt and it says something about there there being no hda2
[03:02] <supermiguel> i mean do i have to configure the server
[03:02] <Nrbelex> tonyyarusso, no, I get either the message "Error while waiting for server message" or "ReadExact: Socket error while reading" 20 seconds after I get on every single time
[03:02] <hesperus> simtower*
[03:02] <ztg> ubuntu-server keeps locking up any ideas?
[03:02] <variant> supermiguel: yeah, its fairly simple point and click interface
[03:02] <Nrbelex> It's the most aggravating thing ever
[03:02] <simtower> hello hesperus, i am not sure, maybe you can change it to an on disk location
[03:02] <variant> supermiguel: add a user, make it aware of a directory to be shared out on ftp
[03:02] <tonyyarusso> Nrbelex: Ah, okay.  Sorry, I'm only good with VNC when it works it seems.
[03:02] <variant> supermiguel: and start it
[03:03] <edward_> can someone help me install an ATI card?
[03:03] <wanted> How can i devide/duplicate server x in two displays???
[03:03] <supermiguel> variant do you have msn or something that you can help me with it
[03:03] <Boelcke> mdkaneda, and you're sure you've got your home in hdb2?  Is there an hda2?
[03:03] <Nrbelex> Does anybody know a good thread for VNC help?
[03:03] <krazykit> ztg: no, not without more information than "it's broke"
[03:03] <mdkaneda> Boelcke: see, it used to be hda2, moved my drive to hdb2 and put a new HD in HDA1 and put windows on it. i got grub loaded in HDA's MBR no problem, it loads windows and loads ubuntu, but now ubuntu wont mount my filesystem
[03:03] <hesperus> simtower: apparently i can, the modules get stored in ram! this is non-sense
[03:03] <edward_> the driver is  insallled but when I type lsmod | grep fglrx in the teminalw i get nothing back
[03:03] <variant> supermiguel: sorry, i am at work and dont really have time
[03:03] <hesperus> i cant
[03:03] <tonyyarusso> wanted: Could you rephrase that?  I'm not sure we understand what you mean.
[03:03] <variant> supermiguel: if you wanna make a donation to me with paypal i can help you. or even do it for you :)
[03:04] <simtower> comon this no #help4hire
[03:04] <bimberi> mdkaneda: you also need to check the lines in /boot/grub/menu.lst which will also be referring to hda (as 'hda' and as 'hd0')
[03:04] <zoredache> mdkaneda: is the root filesystem argument in your menu.lst correct?
[03:04] <mdkaneda> bimberi: grub is fine, it loads ubuntu, gets stuck where it loads up
[03:04] <ztg> krazykit, the box locks up, i've run memtest86+ and it came back without errors, nothing obvious in syslog
[03:05] <bimberi> mdkaneda: so you have checked that file? hmm
[03:05] <mdkaneda> zoredache: yes as far as i know its correct. i changed all the hd0's to hd1's and added a windows entry to hd0...
[03:05] <krazykit> ztg: dunno then.
[03:05] <lostboyz> hi how do i delete unecessary package libs from my system?
[03:05] <bimberi> mdkaneda: ah, nvm :)
[03:05] <lostboyz> and how do i check to see if packages are confliciting with each other?
[03:06] <supermiguel> miguel-desktop - fatal: Socket operation on non-socket
[03:06] <supermiguel> miguel-desktop - (Running from command line? Use `ServerType standalone' in config file!)
[03:06] <zoredache> lostboyz: debfoster is nice
[03:06] <simtower> miguel
[03:06] <hesperus> is anyone using nvidia.ko + restricted modules?
[03:06] <supermiguel> i get that error when i try to start it
[03:06] <chronoAZ> whats the best way of getting grub back after installing windows?
[03:06] <lostboyz> ok thank you
[03:06] <lostboyz> zoredache
[03:07] <twopoint0_> can someone tell me why i am being told 'incorrect file format' when i try to load a them
[03:07] <alex222> any do i get the latest version of gnome baker (0.6)
[03:07] <alex222> The SPM only shows 0.5
[03:07] <mdkaneda> ChronoAZ: Super Grub Disc (if u have a cd burner)
[03:07] <krazykit> chronoAZ: load the liveCD, chroot into your system and run grub-install
[03:07] <variant> supermiguel: sorry mate, would like to help you but i really dont have time :( good luck with it
[03:07] <mdkaneda> super grub disc is easier =) heh
[03:07] <Boelcke> mdkaneda, this is going to sound stupid, but, uh, I don't have a /boot in my fstab.
[03:07] <chalcedony> DarkMageZ: how to tell if the flashplugin-nonfree package installed correctly?
[03:07] <lostboyz> are there any others besides debfoster?
[03:07] <chalcedony> or anyone?
[03:07] <ztg> is there anyway to determin if a system lockup is hardware or software based?
[03:08] <Xenguy> lostboyz: deborphan
[03:08] <mdkaneda> Boelcke: i made a seperate /boot partition to mount to /boot, figured that'd be safer
[03:08] <supermiguel> now when i try to access to my web page it says that is no available for me
[03:08] <wanted> tonyyarusso: I have one server and one client,i have set ssh server on server and i have set Xforwarding on client but i want visualize the desktop on client and on server....
[03:08] <zoredache> lostboyz: debfoster is just basically a program that will ask you a few questions and then run dpkg/apt to remove things...
[03:08] <lostboyz> oh i see
[03:08] <abk> hey guys, SSH issue here
[03:08] <abk> I can ssh into my own machine remotely A-OK
[03:09] <killown> hey linux has games as windows?
[03:09] <abk> *sorry hit enter too soon
[03:09] <wanted> killown: yes
[03:09] <killown> Wanderer linux has age 3?
[03:09] <wanted> no no...
[03:09] <Xenguy> wanted: maybe 'x11vnc' is of interest to you?  I'm not sure I understand your question though
[03:09] <hesperus> is anyone using nvidia.ko + restricted modules?
[03:10] <wanted> killown: linux have a few games sa windows
[03:10] <variant> killown: age of empires is made by microsoft
[03:10] <chronoAZ> mdkaneda, what menu do i go to to reinstall grub on the mbr
[03:10] <abk> I can SSH into my own machine just fine. I made a new user account, though, and now he can't log in at all. I can't log in as him either. when we type ssh him@mydomain.com, it asks for the password but then gives a "Sorry, permission denied" error
[03:10] <mdkaneda> would there be any reason why ubuntu cares that i have a fstab_backup file that points to the wrong drives still?
[03:10] <variant> killown: therefore there iwll never be a linux compatible versoin
[03:10] <chronoAZ> mdkaneda, (using super grub disk)
[03:10] <DarkMageZ> chalcedony, try and view a flash presentation with firefox :P
[03:10] <zoredache> can he login at the console abk?
[03:10] <chalcedony> DarkMageZ: ok ..
[03:11] <grouchytim> abk:  check caps lock
[03:11] <Xenguy> abk: can you log in as the new user locally?
[03:11] <twopoint0_> so no one knows? o.O
[03:11] <Xenguy> abk: i.e. without ssh
[03:11] <abk> zoredache: no, just checked. there is no local login either
[03:11] <mdkaneda> ChronoAZ: theres an Advanced menu in there somewhere, or check the gnu/linux section. it'll "try" to automatically find everything and add it to the write place, or u can specify yourself (that latter seems to work better)
[03:11] <abk> I can "sudo su Username" and use his account
[03:11] <wanted> Xenguy x11vnc is ok but is impossible set the X to working in two display (example export DISPLAY=192.168.0.1:0 and example export DISPLAY 192.168.0.2:0)
[03:11] <zoredache> well first you need to fix the local login... does he exist in the /etc/passwd file?
[03:12] <Xenguy> abk: try resetting the passwd perhaps
[03:12] <mdkaneda> write=right.. u know what i mean. lol
[03:12] <Xenguy> wanted: dunno then
[03:12] <chronoAZ> mdkaneda, thanks
[03:13] <mdkaneda> no prob =)
[03:13] <wanted> killown: linux have americans army, rail road,a clone of sim city
[03:13] <chalcedony> sigh DarkMageZ it dosen't work
[03:13] <killown> ok
[03:13] <simtower> what sim city is it call?
[03:13] <simtower> wanted?
[03:13] <abk> xenguy: I've tried deleting his acc and making a new user (same shortname) and also resetting his PW in the gui CP, do you mean something else?
[03:13] <krazykit> simtower: lincity and lincity-ng
[03:13] <simtower> thx i will intsall it
[03:13] <gbutler> Does anyone know why fonts look so ugly in Epiphany on Edgy Eft?
[03:13] <wanted> simtower: Lincity
[03:13] <wanted> ;)
[03:13] <gbutler> Also look as bad in Firefox.
[03:14] <simtower> turn on your anti-alias maybe
[03:14] <krazykit> gbutler: #ubuntu+1
[03:14] <DarkMageZ> chalcedony, ok applications > accessories > terminal. then type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" and tell me what it does 
[03:14] <alex222> any do i get the latest version of gnome baker (0.6)
[03:14] <alex222> The SPM only shows 0.5
[03:14] <chalcedony> DarkMageZ: ok ty :)
[03:14] <Xenguy> abk: no, just thought resetting the passwd was a good place to start; obviously if you can't log into an account locally as a user it's not going to work over ssh
[03:15] <gbutler> Font rendering was great under Dapper with Epiphany and FF, now it looks horrible under Edgy. Is something missing?
[03:15] <crimsun> alex222: it will have to be backported to dapper. It only recently entered edgy.
[03:15] <grouchytim> is there a trick to making a local printer shared with windows computers on my lan?
[03:15] <simtower> sure grouchytim
[03:15] <eyequeue> gbutler, wrong channel, #ubuntu+1
[03:15] <abk> xenguy: of course. any ideas on why it wouldn't work?
[03:15] <simtower> you need to share it with samba
[03:15] <Xenguy> abk: for a different method, you could just try (as root): passwd username
[03:15] <Azuncha> nalioth is here?
[03:15] <grouchytim> <----samba stupid
[03:15] <Xenguy> abk: typically a password is being typed incorrectly
[03:15] <grouchytim> feel like helping?
[03:16] <gbutler> OK...thanks...
[03:16] <Xenguy> abk: substitute the login name for 'username' of course
[03:16] <abk> xenguy: well, I just made a new user with different short name and three-character PW to make sure I was typing it all OK
[03:16] <wols_> gbutler: samba or cups. both can do it
[03:16] <abk> still not able to log in locally.
[03:17] <Xenguy> abk: that makes no sense tho - try changing the passwd on the command-line?
[03:17] <jUggERNAUt1980> so i tried setting up my system as a NAT router last night but it didn't work, now i have to manually change my network settings every time i start up.  how can i go back and change my sys back to those original settings without reinstalling?
[03:17] <Boelcke> mdkaneda, another silly question, but, are you able to mount this stuff manually from the command line?
[03:18] <brasko> hi, for some reason, when I take screen shots, they are blank
[03:18] <simtower> grouchytim, i have never done it before actulaly but that is definitely theway
[03:18] <Xenguy> abk: or try using 'adduser' to create the new account ?
[03:18] <abk> xenguy: well, the new user's shortname was "newuser". I did "sudo passwd newuser" and it said passwd: unknown user newuser
[03:18] <grouchytim> yeah i think that is how i did it a few years ago
[03:18] <wols_> jUggERNAUt1980: depends what the settings where and what you changed
[03:18] <brasko> this happens with both Applications->Accessories->Take Screenshot and with Gimp File->Acquire->Screenshot
[03:18] <Boelcke> mdkaneda, another thing.  This is kinda basic, but I ended up using a script called diskmounter that makes fstab entries for anything it can find.  I wonder if you should delete (backup!) your current one, and start with that.  Simplify the problem first...
[03:18] <abk> xenguy: syntax would be "adduser newuser"?
[03:18] <grouchytim> but that was mandrake
[03:18] <grouchytim> and it was a long time ago
[03:18] <brasko> why is this?
[03:19] <wols_> gbutler: if you windows are 2k and up, you can use cups. otherwise, samba it is
[03:19] <jUggERNAUt1980> wols_, this is the HowTo i used:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-91370.html
[03:19] <abk> xenguy: looks like it was an error in the GUI CP
[03:19] <mdkaneda> Boelcke: i deleted my backup, mounted my /boot partition in here just to check, and i found it!!!! it WAS in my /boot/grub/menu.lst!!!
[03:19] <abk> xenguy: it's all working when I do "sudo adduser"
[03:19] <mdkaneda> theres a line that mentioned "root=/dev/hda2...."
[03:19] <brasko> well, anyone know why my screen shots are blank?
[03:19] <abk> xenguy: how do I delete users from command line
[03:19] <mdkaneda> changed all those to "hdB2" and i should be good now
[03:19] <mdkaneda> i'm glad thats all it was, i was sweating for a while
[03:19] <valehru> Hey guys, I have a dual head setup, however certain applications do not like this setup and prefer only one monitor.  Is there a GTK application that can disable the secondary monitor??
[03:19] <mdkaneda> hehe
[03:20] <Boelcke> mdkaneda, sweetness.
[03:20] <Xenguy> abk: deluser
[03:20] <Xenguy> abk: man deluser for some good options
[03:20] <abk> xenguy: thanks mucho
[03:20] <abk> working now
[03:20] <Xenguy> abk: yw
[03:20] <wols_> jUggERNAUt1980: and what is the problem now (btw: bad howto. only thing necessary is ipmasq and dnsmasq
[03:20] <wols_> jUggERNAUt1980: ie. what setting is missing when you reboot?
[03:21] <darkanyel> hi
[03:21] <jUggERNAUt1980> wols_, yeah, i figured that when it didn't work.
[03:21] <jUggERNAUt1980> well, it automatically enables eth0, and my wifi (ath0) won't resolve an ip adress.
[03:21] <brasko> so, no one here knows why the screen shot would be blank?
[03:21] <darkanyel> DarkMageZ, i solved the button!
[03:21] <darkanyel> DarkMageZ, :D
[03:21] <chalcedony> DarkMageZ: it still doesn't work, won't bring up disney channel
[03:22] <DarkMageZ> darkanyel, where did you find it?
[03:22] <jUggERNAUt1980> it isn't really that bad, i just don't want to have to disable the eth0 when i turn my box on all the time.
[03:22] <wols_> jUggERNAUt1980: change your /etc/resolv.conf then
[03:22] <kupesoft> Is there a command other than "diff" that shows the difference between two files?
[03:22] <darkanyel> DarkMageZ, google ^^
[03:22] <mdkaneda> Boelcke: i was using Mepis for a while, until i got fed up w/ KDE.. hehe.. anyways, i liked their auto-mounting program that was preinstalled.. forgot what it was called, but it was like what ur saying, it would create entries for you, no thinking involved.
[03:22] <wols_> jUggERNAUt1980: put in the proper nameserver
[03:23] <DarkMageZ> chalcedony, restart firefox and go "about:plugins" is flash listed?
[03:23] <DarkMageZ> darkanyel, :P but what did you do exactly
[03:23] <darkanyel> DarkMageZ, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/control-center/+bug/4265
[03:23] <Boelcke> mdkaneda, yeah, I was struggling to get the wording right for some windows and network stuff, and the diskmounter utility did the trick.  It wasn't anything fancy, just a decent script someone had made.
[03:23] <darkanyel> DarkMageZ, is a bug
[03:23] <abk> OK, one more question: how do I take away a user's sudo privileges
[03:24] <DarkMageZ> darkanyel, ah and you used the workaround. nice. hopefully it will be fixed in future
[03:24] <bombero> higen, where is  the trash on 6.06 ?  need to clean it
[03:24] <d3v1ant0n3> My xserver seems to be randomly dumping me back to the login screen...I have no idea why....How do I go about sorting out what the problem is?
[03:24] <wols_> abk: man sudoers
[03:24] <krazykit> abk: remove them from /etc/sudoers
[03:24] <eyequeue> abk, sudo visudoers
[03:24] <krazykit> bombero: ~/.Trash
[03:24] <darkanyel> abk, just put exit
[03:24] <wols_> d3v1ant0n3: read the X server logs
[03:24] <eyequeue> abk, and remove then from the admin group
[03:24] <d3v1ant0n3> Where do I find them?
[03:25] <d3v1ant0n3> /etc/X11?
[03:25] <wols_>  /var/log
[03:25] <d3v1ant0n3> ty
[03:25] <david__> I'm installing a windows game under wine, where is it going to put things that are suppose to go to c:\program files?
[03:25] <variant> anyone know a command line program that will set the desktop background but pass the mouse clicks through to the underlying program and not cover over desktop icons?
[03:25] <darkanyel> DarkMageZ, wll time to sleep, here is 3.25 am, thanks and bytes!!!
[03:25] <eyequeue> abk, don't edit /etc/sudoers without sudo visudoers of course
[03:25] <mdkaneda> alright, well i'm gonna get outta this live cd and boot into linux. oooh, its gonna be so sexy. lol. hope it works this time, lol. thanks for everyone's help =)
[03:25] <ztg> is there anyway to determine if a system lockup is hardware or software based?
[03:25] <abk> I checked out /etc/sudoers, but it's just allowing root access to anyone in the admin group
[03:25] <variant> eyequeue: is the command not visudo ?
[03:26] <abk> how do I remove people from the admin group without using my (broken) GUI
[03:26] <wols_> abk: then remove the user from the admin group
[03:26] <Nrbelex> Anybody know where to look to get advanced VNC support?
[03:26] <eyequeue> variant, am i typoing again?  yeah
[03:26] <variant> ztg: either can create log entries.. take a look and see what you can find
[03:26] <wols_> edit /etc/group
[03:26] <ladydoor> abk: sudo cp /etc/group /etc/group.bak ; sudo nano -w /etc/group
[03:26] <variant> ztg: in /var/log/
[03:26] <bombero> krazykit, ok, is posible to clean it under KDE ?
[03:26] <eyequeue> abk, sudo nano /etc/group
[03:26] <ladydoor> abk: then manually remove the user from the group admin
[03:27] <bombero> krazykit, something like konqueror ?
[03:27] <mdkaneda> Nrbelex: from what i know ubuntu uses RealVNC. www.realvnc.com is their official site.
[03:27] <krazykit> bombero: just type ~/.Trash in the location bar
[03:27] <abk> hot, guys. thanks as always.
[03:27] <variant> mdkaneda: ubuntu uses tightvnc or any other free vnc package
[03:27] <krazykit> bombero: or open Konsole and do rm -fr ~/.Trash/*
[03:27] <variant> mdkaneda: realvnc is not free software
[03:27] <supermiguel> hello
[03:28] <supermiguel> any body know how to use proftpd
[03:28] <jUggERNAUt1980> what is the proper nameserver?
[03:28] <d3v1ant0n3> Why would X be trying to add a wacom tablet at startup?
[03:28] <chalcedony> DarkMageZ:  it says it's listed when i cd .mozilla/plugins and do ls
[03:28] <d3v1ant0n3> I don't havea wacom tablet
[03:28] <krazykit> d3v1ant0n3: because it's part of the default xorg.conf
[03:28] <bosco> bosco> i have a laptop and i sent it in to get fixed becz one of my keys was broken off and it didnt work then bt now that they pt my new key on it still doenst work any help as to how to fix it
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[03:28] <bosco> * secher_ has quit ("ircII EPIC4-2.2 -- Are we there yet?")
[03:28] <mdkaneda> variant: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ vncviewer --help
[03:28] <mdkaneda> VNC viewer version 3.3.7 - built Feb 20 2006 12:04:05
[03:28] <mdkaneda> Copyright (C) 2002-2003 RealVNC Ltd.
[03:28] <mdkaneda> Copyright (C) 1994-2000 AT&T Laboratories Cambridge.
[03:28] <mdkaneda> See http://www.realvnc.com for information on VNC.
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[03:28] <d3v1ant0n3> Ah...Will it hurt to remove it?
[03:28] <mdkaneda> im on the live cd
[03:28] <bosco> bosco> i have a laptop and i sent it in to get fixed becz one of my keys was broken off and it didnt work then bt now that they pt my new key on it still doenst work any help as to how to fix it
[03:28] <Xenguy> !paste > mdkaneda
[03:28] <Nrbelex> mdkaneda, unfortunately, the don't have much in the way of support - does anybody know anywhere else to look like an IRC channel?
[03:29] <ztg> i've looked in syslog,dmesg, and pretty much every other log but nothing interesting
[03:29] <variant> mdkaneda: so, thats what you installed..
[03:29] <krazykit> d3v1ant0n3: only if you don't know what you're doing
[03:29] <mdkaneda> im on the live cd, i didnt install anything. check for yourself
[03:29] <bombero> krazykit, ok, thanx,
[03:29] <variant> mdkaneda: maybe realvnc has a free dual licence or somthing..
[03:29] <linux1> The open source version of VNC has been freely available since 1998,
[03:29] <d3v1ant0n3> bosco...If you had it repaired, they said they fixed it and charged you, go shout
[03:30] <krazykit> bosco: what key?
[03:30] <LeeJunFan> what is one to use to work with ISA when there's no isapnp tools available?
[03:30] <tomsaso> hi.
[03:31] <tomsaso> How can i configue my Evolution Mail, to recive emails form Yahoo!, Gmail, and Hotmail??
[03:31] <mdkaneda> well, i'll be back when i get off this live cd
[03:31] <DarkMageZ> chalcedony, but does it list flash when you open firefox and goto about:plugins ?
[03:31] <^Ocean^> tomsaso: with a Degree in computer enginearing ;)
[03:31] <variant> mdkaneda: strange, realvnc seems to be very proprietry.. i cant imagine that ubuntu would include that on the live cd
[03:32] <bosco> krazykit, it is my  u key i have to copy and paste everytime i need to
[03:32] <krazykit> bosco: open a terminal and run xev.  put the mouse over the window that pops up and hit the u key.
[03:32] <wanted> Is impossible set the X to working in two display (example export DISPLAY=192.168.0.1:0 and example export DISPLAY 192.168.0.2:0)??
[03:32] <krazykit> bosco: if there's no change in the terminal, the u key is still broken
[03:33] <newpZ> hi is there a simple (non-gimp) program for my wife to do simple cropping and remove redeye from pics before she prints them?
[03:33] <tomsaso> Whats the problem with you guys??? Whenever i ask here for help i am knocked out!!!! Its not everything in programing, you are trying to make Linux a USER operating system!!! Anyway i can use windows and its much easier!!!
[03:34] <lupine_85> !patience
[03:34] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:34] <merowinger> is there a way to switch easily between my 2 soundcards in gnome 2.16?
[03:34] <wabz> hello, I have a reproducible FF crash that takes X with it, but before filing I want to make sure it's not just me - can someone who doesn't mind having X crash test this out? 1) go here: http://www.whatsbeef.net/wabz/ffcrash/crash.html 2) click launch calendar, 3) before clicking anything scroll the newly created window to the right. BAM
[03:34] <lupine_85> *plonk*
[03:34] <ladydoor> tomsaso: and shouting at us is totally going to help.
[03:34] <Montanaja> Hi guys, I've been having a hell of a time trying to compile a new kernel under ubuntu
[03:34] <the_guy> anyone wanna suggest a good media player?
[03:34] <wols_> Tokenbad: please go back to windows and never leave it again. please
[03:34] <wols_> the_guy: mplayer, xine, vlc. take your pick
[03:34] <the_guy> thanx
[03:35] <d3v1ant0n3> the_guy I love amarok and rhythmbox....both are easy to set up an duse. Kaffeine, Mplayer and vlc are great for video
[03:35] <Montanaja> I'm gettng this udevplg problem after I compile a new kernel, thn it drpos to BusyBox
[03:35] <Montanaja> does anyone know what I may be doing wrong?
[03:35] <krazykit> Montanaja: what kernel version?
[03:35] <Montanaja> 2.6.18
[03:36] <krazykit> Montanaja: do you have an initrd?  well, i guess it's initcpio now...
[03:36] <Montanaja> yeah
[03:36] <Montanaja> I use this command make-kpkg -initrd --revision=386 kernel_image kernel_headers modules_image
[03:37] <bosco> krazykit, bt it worked till my key broke =off
[03:37] <bosco> i never set it to not work
[03:37] <bosco> with settingis
[03:37] <bosco> or anything
[03:37] <krazykit> Montanaja: strange.  that should work fine.  it did for me with 2.6.18-r6
[03:37] <krazykit> bosco: i didn't ask that.  i asked if you were getting any output from xev
[03:37] <Montanaja> I've tried like 3 or 4 tutorials
[03:37] <wols_> Montanaja: did you change anything in the config?
[03:37] <Montanaja> oh yeah
[03:38] <Montanaja> should I just copy the .config from a known working kernel?
[03:38] <chalcedony> DarkMageZ I don't see about plugins, where to look?
[03:38] <bosco> krazykit, i am trying to pt it on a pastebin now
[03:39] <wols_> Montanaja: have you included the udev stuff in your kernel?
[03:39] <Montanaja> I don't believe so
[03:39] <neom> Can you install stuff when you are using a liveCD?
[03:39] <krazykit> bosco: i didn't need a pastebin.  did anything new come in the terminal when you hit the u key?
[03:40] <wols_> neom: no
[03:40] <alex222> DOES ANYONE use gnome baker? im getting this when adding mp3s The plugin to handle a file of type audio/mpeg is not installed.
[03:41] <Tokenbad> wols_, why you tell me to go back to windows?
[03:41] <krazykit> bosco: anyway, if you could hold on for like 12 minutes, i need to walk back from work
[03:41] <krazykit> Tokenbad: he was talking to the wrong person.  bad tab completion
[03:41] <wols_> Tokenbad: cause the guy tomsaso already left and the nick complete misfired. sorry
[03:41] <Tokenbad> ahhh ok
[03:41] <eyequeue> !mp3 > alex222
[03:41] <Tokenbad> I was like I wasn't even talking
[03:41] <Tokenbad> heheh
[03:42] <bosco> http://pastebin.com/794493
[03:42] <DarkMageZ> chalcedony, type "about:plugins: in the address bar :P
[03:42] <DarkMageZ> chalcedony, "about:plugins"* without the quotation :P
[03:42] <jUggERNAUt1980> Does anyone know of a website that tells step by step how to foward wireless internet to be available over the ethernet onboard to other computers? t
[03:42] <bosco> krazykit, http://pastebin.com/794493
[03:43] <bosco> krazykit, let me know when yo get home
[03:43] <bosco> 
[03:44] <mluser-laptop> !bluetooth
[03:44] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[03:45] <torchie> !wireless
[03:45] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:45] <wanted> Is impossible set the X to working in two display (example export DISPLAY=192.168.0.1:0 and example export DISPLAY 192.168.0.2:0)??
[03:46] <raich_> hey i was wondering what is a good book to start lisp with?, keep in mind i hhave a little expericence with C / c++
[03:46] <raich_> someone?
[03:46] <Dr_willis> what do ya mean by display? 2 monitors showing the same X desktop>
[03:46] <supermiguel> how do i shut down and up my ssh server
[03:47] <raich_> ...omg sorry, the freaking programe changed the chanel
[03:47] <Dr_willis> - sudo /etc/init.d/servicename start (or stop)
[03:47] <kupesoft> What are the units of the command "du"?  Are they blocks?
[03:47] <supermiguel> in this case the service name is? ssh-server?
[03:47] <m5m> Anyone know where to find desktop launcher configuration file?  I think it's .desktop files
[03:47] <Dr_willis> kupesoft,  du -h shows more human readable format.
[03:48] <kupesoft> Dr_willis: What are the default units, though,
[03:48] <lupine_85> du -hs is even better :)
[03:48] <eyequeue> supermiguel, sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[03:48] <lupine_85> 1024byte blocks
[03:48] <Dr_willis> m5m,  locate  .desktop   shows a lot of them. :P
[03:48] <ladydoor> raich_: elisp or straight lisp?
[03:49] <kupesoft> Someone please, what are the default units of "du"?
[03:50] <Crescendo_> It appears as if some of my GNOME applications don't have the correct theme.  Would this have something to do with running a gksudo...?
[03:50] <eyequeue> man du doesn't say?
[03:50] <kupesoft> man du doesn't say.
[03:50] <lupine_85> 1024 bytes
[03:51] <Bordoch> good evening - anyone have time for a Automatix script question?
[03:51] <wanted> Dr_willis,i have 2 PC in lan, i start X in pc1 and connect pc1 to pc2 beetwen ssh and run X application in pc2 and see in pc1....but not see in pc2 because DISPLAY is set to pc2, i can see the Xapplicatin in pc1 and pc2 ?
[03:51] <^Ocean^> Crescendo: No, could be running apps that are non GTK  like for example  xmms
[03:51] <^Ocean^> or Java
[03:51] <^Ocean^> or KDE
[03:52] <wanted> EDIT.........Dr_willis,i have 2 PC in lan, i start X in pc1 and connect pc1 to pc2 beetwen ssh and run X application in pc2 and see in pc1....but not see in pc2 because DISPLAY is set to pc1, i can see the Xapplicatin in pc1 and pc2 ?
[03:52] <Dr_willis> wanted,  not sure if its possible to easially have an app displayed on both desktops.. VNC can be handy for a similer task.
[03:52] <krazykit> bosco: lemme just let pastebin load up
[03:52] <Crescendo_> ^Ocean^, I'm running the synaptic package manager.
[03:52] <Unix_n_Coffee> anybody know if you could mount dvd/cd iso's in ubuntu? :)
[03:52] <Crescendo_> That's one of them.
[03:52] <krazykit> Unix_n_Coffee: you can.
[03:52] <Unix_n_Coffee> Krazykit how?
[03:52] <Unix_n_Coffee> apt-get what?
[03:52] <Unix_n_Coffee> :)
[03:52] <eyequeue> !dvd > Unix_n_Coffee
[03:52] <chanwoman> I am a newbie, trying to install vmware tools is driving me mad, I have got vmware-tools-distrib sitting on my desktop, I did a ls from my root directory, can see the desktop but when I cd /desktop, it would accept the command.  Someone please put me out of my misery.
[03:52] <Dr_willis> wanted,  could have a 'shared' vnc desktop running i guess. and just use vncviewer on both.
[03:53] <^Ocean^> wanted, You could see them in both apps if u use VNC  but then pc1 could just "Take controle" of PC2  as for a way to see the app on both displays simaltaniously i dont think you can
[03:53] <Unix_n_Coffee> eyequeue whats that?
[03:53] <Unix_n_Coffee> sudo apt-get !dvd
[03:53] <Unix_n_Coffee> ?
[03:53] <lakin> Hrmm, I'm trying to install opera via the add/remove applications, and it just gets into an endless loop of trying to enable the dapper-commercial repository, then it updates, then tries to enable again,
[03:54] <Unix_n_Coffee> someone help me out? :|
[03:54] <`m0> anyone running cisco vpn ?
[03:54] <krazykit> Unix_n_Coffee: it should've sent you a pm
[03:54] <`m0> or ran it before?
[03:54] <eyequeue> Unix_n_Coffee, the bot told you into
[03:54] <bosco> krazykit, ok that is whta i got as far as the
[03:54] <eyequeue> Unix_n_Coffee, info
[03:54] <bosco> krazykit, ok that is whta i got as far as the
[03:54] <krazykit> bosco: wait, it's loaded, don't paste here
[03:54] <`m0> How do you guys usually run cisco vpn? Do you keep the cisco vpn terminal open?
[03:54] <Unix_n_Coffee> bot didnt tell me anything.....
[03:54] <Half-Left> daaaaamn
[03:55] <wanted> Dr_willis , ^Ocean^:   with vnc is possible working simultaneously in pc1 and pc2
[03:55] <wanted> ?
[03:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> someone have the bot link?
[03:55] <Bordoch> Does anyone have any idea why the Java run time environment does not install with the Automatix script the second time. It installed correctly when I first ran the script - but reinstalled Ubunto and since that first installation, has not installed since? l
[03:55] <^Ocean^> wanted, Yes
[03:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> i didnt get it sent to me
[03:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> :|
[03:55] <Dr_willis> wanted,  yes.. of 1000 pc's :P
[03:55] <krazykit> bosco: yeah, it looks broken still.
[03:55] <eyequeue> !dvd > Unix_n_Coffee
[03:55] <wanted> :P
[03:55] <Dr_willis> or 10000 pc's lol
[03:55] <^Ocean^> wanted, but you will get a window so you can see the whole OS enviroment
[03:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> ohh i se it
[03:55] <^Ocean^> not exporting display
[03:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> its in this room
[03:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> :)
[03:55] <eyequeue> Unix_n_Coffee, you get nothing from ubotu ?
[03:55] <Dr_willis> vnc is a handy tool to learn the ins and outs of.
[03:56] <Unix_n_Coffee> got it its pasted into this room
[03:56] <Flannel> Bordoch: automatix is broken, that's why.
[03:56] <Unix_n_Coffee> this is not exactly what i wanted
[03:56] <supermiguel> there is any web base ssh tool
[03:56] <Unix_n_Coffee> i wanted to mount a dvd linux game
[03:56] <Unix_n_Coffee> full iso
[03:56] <Unix_n_Coffee> :|
[03:56] <krazykit> Unix_n_Coffee: mount -t auto -o loop /path/to/the.iso /mount/point
[03:56] <Bordoch> in what way - as in the script as gotten from the website or something on my ubunto installation?
[03:56] <Flannel> Unix_n_Coffee: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint
[03:56] <Unix_n_Coffee> i want to mount iso instead of burning them
[03:57] <wanted> Dr_willis , ^Ocean^:   tanks
[03:57] <Lam_> how do i  change my default keyring password?
[03:57] <Flannel> Bordoch: automatix breaks things.  Your best bet is to reinstall a second time, to get it all off your system, and whatever damage it may have caused, and then follow these instructions to install java:
[03:57] <krazykit> supermiguel: no.
[03:57] <Flannel> !java
[03:57] <Unix_n_Coffee> who do i believe?
[03:57] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[03:57] <Unix_n_Coffee> ...
[03:57] <Lam_> !keyring
[03:57] <Unix_n_Coffee> Unix_n_Coffee: mount -t auto -o loop /path/to/the.iso /mount/point
 in what way - as in the script as gotten from the website or something on my ubunto installation?
 i want to mount iso instead of burning them
 Unix_n_Coffee: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keyring - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <david__> what wine version should i download for ubuntu
[03:57] <Flannel> !tell Unix_n_Coffee about mount
[03:57] <Flannel> Unix_n_Coffee: and, don't paste.
[03:58] <krazykit> Unix_n_Coffee: they're both the same, really.  -t is only the fs type, which mount sometimes complains about
[03:58] <Unix_n_Coffee> its not partitioning
[03:58] <eyequeue> david__, none, apt-get it
[03:58] <supermiguel> krazykit: which one do you use?
[03:58] <eyequeue> !info wine dapper
[03:58] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[03:58] <Unix_n_Coffee> i see thanks everyone!
[03:58] <Unix_n_Coffee> :)
[03:58] <krazykit> supermiguel: i use ssh from a console.
[03:58] <Bordoch> I have installed Ubunto in oem mode twice following the very first installation - no luck on either of the second install
[03:58] <krazykit> supermiguel: or putty in windows.
[03:58] <Flannel> Bordoch: why oem mode? why not just normal mode?
[03:58] <eyequeue> david__, sudo apt-get wine, after enabling universe, if you want it
[03:58] <Dr_willis> i dont een know what oem/how it works or does. Lol.
[03:59] <supermiguel> try winscp
[03:59] <Dr_willis> I thought ya set up some oem file on the cd for it to work,
[03:59] <Bordoch> what's the diffewrence - advice from the IT guy at work
[03:59] <Flannel> Bordoch: and, just don't use automatix, the java in the repositories works fine
[03:59] <JavaDeveloper> hi, I just installed apache2 and wonder where the httpd.conf, then I followed ubuntu guide and setup alias, but how do I setup file type there? I can't find info on apache site, any clue?
[03:59] <Flannel> Bordoch: the oem mode is meant to be installed, then shipped to the end users to finalize configuration, normal install from the alternate CD installs a normal system
[03:59] <Flannel> Bordoch: completely, that is.
[03:59] <david__> ihave version 0.09.17, ii wanted to download 0.9.20
[04:00] <Lam_> how do i change my default keyring password?
[04:00] <Bordoch> good to know
[04:00] <Flannel> JavaDeveloper: httpd.conf isn't used, there's apache2.conf, the module configurations, or the sites themselves, depending on what youre configuring
[04:00] <eyequeue> david__, subverting the package management system is not considered good practice, but it's your system
[04:00] <chanwoman> I am a newbie, trying to install vmware tools on ubuntu is driving me mad, I have got vmware-tools-distrib sitting on my desktop, I did a ls from my root directory, can see the desktop but when I cd /desktop, it would accept the command.  Someone please put me out of my misery.
[04:00] <Flannel> JavaDeveloper: they're all at /etc/apache2/ and then the folders under that
[04:00] <JavaDeveloper> Flannel: ic ic....thank you very much
[04:00] <Flannel> chanwoman: Desktop not desktop, and no /
[04:01] <ColdFyre> my machine no longer auto mounts devices such as my cell phone and camera. why is that?
[04:01] <david__> whats the latest version of wine availale?
[04:01] <Flannel> chanwoman: "cd Desktop" 'cd /Desktop' looks for a Desktop drive at the root of your file system, not your current directory
[04:01] <eyequeue> !info wine dapper
[04:01] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[04:01] <load0614> Hey all.  What controlls auto mounting in breezy?  I have a USB memory stick that KDE sees and asks what to do as soon as I plug it in on my dapper machine but my breezy machine is a server install without KDE so I need it to just mount as soon as the kernel sees that it's been plugged in.
[04:01] <wabz> g'day, i'd like some help filing a bug, but I don't know whether to file it against firefox or X (I have a page that when visited in FF, crashes X)
[04:01] <eyequeue> david__, ^^
[04:01] <Bordoch> do you need to order the alternate CD for the Normal install or does the downloaded iso have that option?
[04:02] <writingdesk> wabz:  what kernel?
[04:02] <krazykit> wabz: ooh, what page?
[04:02] <david__> thanks, ill go check it out
[04:02] <eyequeue> Bordoch, you d/l the one you want, shipit only sends the live cd
[04:02] <Flannel> Bordoch: the Desktop ISO will also install, correct.  They're the same result installation once everything is done
[04:02] <writingdesk> wabz:  and was the page a java site?
[04:03] <wabz> writingdesk: 2.6.15-26-686 krazykit: http://www.whatsbeef.net/wabz/ffcrash/crash.html (click launch calendar, start scrolling to the right, before clicking anything else)
[04:03] <Bordoch> thanks - this is very helpful
[04:03] <wabz> writingdesk: no
[04:03] <Squatch> Quick question.  What package do I need to install to play .wmv files?
[04:04] <Flannel> !tell Squatch about wmv
[04:04] <lupine_85> !plf
[04:04] <ubotu> plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[04:04] <eyequeue> !restrictedformats > Squatch
[04:04] <wabz> (default ubuntu firefox, i've reproduced it on two fully updated dapper machines)
[04:04] <krazykit> wabz: i must be doing it wrong
[04:04] <wabz> krazykit: does a popup window come up with a bunch of html source showing?
[04:04] <eyequeue> lupine_85, plf allegedly ran out of steam and fizzled out
[04:04] <krazykit> yeah wabz
[04:04] <Flannel> wabz: then file a bug on launchpad whereever you think it should go, if it happens to be in the wrong place, they'll move it
[04:05] <lupine_85> packages are still there though
[04:05] <lupine_85> or were last time I checked
[04:05] <krazykit> seveas' repo has all the multimedia stuff, too
[04:05] <krazykit> !seveas
[04:05] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:05] <yokobr> hi
[04:05] <wabz> krazykit: if i just click the horizontal scroll thing, start dragging it to the right, X crashes
[04:05] <wabz> Flannel: thanks
[04:05] <Squatch> Cool, thanks guys.
[04:05] <dennis_> what would the general consensus agree apon is the best linux friendly mini pci nic card ??
[04:05] <yokobr> please, how can i deal with rar archives?
[04:05] <Dr_willis> !rar
[04:05] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[04:06] <Dr_willis> yokobr,  install the rar tools :)
[04:06] <THX-1138> !seveas is also Thank You!
[04:06] <Flannel> dennis_: probably an intel one
[04:07] <writingdesk> wabz:  I'm pretty sure it has to do with the kernel and gnu java
[04:07] <Flannel> dennis_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[04:07] <dennis_> well I'm using an ipw2200, what I am after is something that is natively supported with WPA support
[04:07] <Asc> Can I move an install to a seperate HDD just by copying everything (sudo cp -R /*) from one to the other, then installing grub on the new disk?  The new disk will be used in the same machine.
[04:08] <wabz> writingdesk: this page doesn't have any java applets or anything on it?
[04:08] <writingdesk> wabz: possibly just the kernel
[04:08] <THX-1138> Asc - not sure how you might preserve permissions and symlinks. - i am cery\tai it can be done.
[04:09] <THX-1138> *certain*
[04:09] <writingdesk> wabz: I've refrained from updating my fresh install of Ubuntu and have not had any problems
[04:09] <writingdesk> wabz:  I think it is in the 2.6.15-27 kernel
[04:09] <lupine_85> Asc: cp -a
[04:09] <wabz> happens with at least -26 too
[04:09] <wols_> Asc: use dd
[04:09] <lupine_85> alternatively tar everything
[04:09] <lupine_85> that's probably your best bet
[04:10] <Asc> THX, lupin, wols: Thanks.
[04:10] <wickedpuppy> why not fresh install and just cope out home and etc ??
[04:10] <yokobr> what is rar tools?
[04:10] <xt_> sally
[04:10] <wickedpuppy> !rar
[04:10] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[04:10] <yokobr> where can i find them?
[04:10] <lupine_85> yuck, rar
[04:10] <Asc> wicked: because downloading everything would take days on my 1337 56K connection
[04:10] <lupine_85> !unrar
[04:10] <ubotu> unrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[04:10] <yokobr> :(
[04:11] <wickedpuppy> Asc, i assume you have the cd ? or else how did you install the current one ?
[04:11] <yokobr> i want to know about rar tools
[04:11] <lupine_85> install rar and unrar; then ark or file-roller will handle them
[04:11] <asiatic> !Could not grab your mouse.
[04:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Could not grab your mouse. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:11] <asiatic> A malicious client may be eavesdropping
[04:11] <asiatic> on your session.
[04:11] <wickedpuppy> yokobr, pls read the ubotu message
[04:11] <writingdesk> wabz:  Check the exact kernel version, because if that's it, I've reported the bug, just confirm on mine.  Also are you on amd64 by any chance?
[04:11] <asiatic> ?Could not grab your mouse.
[04:11] <asiatic> A malicious client may be eavesdropping
[04:11] <asiatic> on your session.
[04:11] <Asc> wicked: yes, I do.  I just want to avoid a reinstall if possible; I've been using this one for months and everything it set up perfectly
[04:12] <Asc> *is
[04:12] <wabz> writingdesk: no, x86. Can easily reproduce this on both 2.6.15-27-686 and 2.6.15-26-686
[04:12] <kjm> asiatic - is this an error message you are getting?  Please be more specific.
[04:12] <wabz> writingdesk: what's your bug#?
[04:12] <asiatic> yeah
[04:12] <asiatic> it is
[04:12] <asiatic> but i dont know what to do
[04:12] <writingdesk> ok, I have 2.6.15-25 installed and have not had the bug occur.
[04:12] <sicarus> I've spent far too long tyring to get my orinoco wireless card working in linux only to find that it just plain doesn't work with wpa
[04:12] <wickedpuppy> Asc, okie dokie then ... btw may i recommend having /etc and /home in different partitions ? that helps me a lot ... thats my opinion :P
[04:13] <writingdesk> but when updated to 2.6.15-27 I had the problem
[04:13] <andrcpp> algun usuario de Ubuntu  que hable espaol ????
[04:13] <writingdesk> wabz:  stand by for bug number
[04:13] <sicarus> looking for suggestions of a 802.11g, preferably pcmcia, WPA supported of course
[04:13] <wickedpuppy> !es
[04:13] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:13] <THX-1138> !es
[04:13] <kjm> wickedpuppy : For sure, sure makes fresh installs easier
[04:14] <skad> did lilo die?
[04:14] <wickedpuppy> yah .. i just install the / partition and mount /etc and /home
[04:14] <xt_> sally?
[04:14] <Asc> wicked: I'll actively contemplate it
[04:15] <sicarus> Anyone with a working 802.11g WPA wireless card working?
[04:15] <wols_> skad: yey he did. accident with his bike
[04:15] <wols_> sicarus: wpa_supplicant not workiing?
[04:15] <Flannel> !tell sicarus about wpa
[04:15] <sicarus> no wols_
[04:15] <writingdesk> wabz: Bug #62172
[04:15] <skad> damn
[04:16] <sicarus> looking for suggestions of a card to buy which is very easy to get working
[04:16] <sicarus> spent far too long trying to get this card going
[04:16] <kjm> asiatic : see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-38592.html
[04:16] <paied> wols_, it looks sort of like a hostap driver thing with the ubuntu kernel
[04:16] <THX-1138> ralink worked for me
[04:16] <marshall> hey guys
[04:16] <paied> wpa_supp quite frankly says "wpa not s upported with this driver"
[04:16] <marshall> doesn anybody know if we're getting GNOME 2.16 on Dapper?
[04:17] <lupine_85> there you go then :)
[04:17] <kjm> marshall - yes I know - we Dapper is using 2.14
[04:17] <asiatic> thank u!
[04:17] <lupine_85> get a card which supports wpa
[04:17] <paied> so generally looking for a better card with a better chipset
[04:17] <marshall> kjm: yeah, 2.16 looks secksi
[04:17] <kjm> 2.16 will be edgy.  May get backported, but nor sure.
[04:17] <dennis_> I'm using an ipw2200 with WPA
[04:17] <paied> is that a prism chipset?
[04:17] <Flannel> marshall: you'll have to wait for edgy then.  It won't be backported
[04:17] <kjm> I am looking forward to 2.16 - although I'm addicted to Xfce on my older machine.
[04:18] <sicarus> looking for something which is pretty much plug and play, with minimalish tweaking
[04:18] <marshall> Flannel: damnit. do oyu know when edgy is supposed to drop?
[04:18] <kjm> Looking forward to seeing if some of the optimizations will help.
[04:18] <eyequeue> !schedule > marshall
[04:18] <dennis_> paied hmm let me check
[04:18] <Flannel> marshall: beta is out this weekend, I believe.  final release will be late October, 28th I believe.
[04:18] <kjm> marshall - you could always try Garnome if you have the testicular fortitude.
[04:19] <marshall> Flannel: ok thanks
[04:19] <kjm> marshall - I have edgy knot 3 installed on my machine at work - and it is getting there:)
[04:19] <marshall> kjm: lol my right testicles name is Fortitude
[04:19] <marshall> kjm: whats garnome?
[04:19] <kjm> heh, - mines named Holly.  But whatever floats your boat :)
[04:19] <marshall> lol
[04:20] <kjm> garnome is a method to "aid" in building the  latest Gnome from source.  But, it is a highly painful and taxing activity.
[04:20] <Asc> How does one fsck the root partition on boot?
[04:21] <lupine_85> there's a flag you can pass to shutdown or reboot that tells it to force check on reboot
[04:21] <kjm> marshall : see http://www.gnome.org/projects/garnome/
[04:21] <lupine_85> man shutdown or man reboot to find it
[04:21] <THX-1138> sudo shutdown - -r now   ??
[04:21] <Asc> lupine: got it, thanks
[04:21] <THX-1138> sudo shutdown -f -r now   ??
[04:22] <lupine_85> dunno
[04:22] <bimberi> -F  (-f is skip the check)
[04:22] <Flannel> THX-1138: man shutdown says -F
[04:22] <marshall> kjm: thanks
[04:22] <jUggERNAUt1980> Hey, everyone!. What do you type in terminal to be in root, and enter commands but not in sudo?
[04:22] <paied> sudo
[04:22] <paied> passwd
[04:22] <kjm> jUggERNAUt1980 : try sudo -i
[04:22] <paied> exit
[04:22] <paied> su
[04:22] <paied> :p
[04:22] <THX-1138> World of Warcraft question what can be done to improve the way fonts are rendered? (flannel - Thank You.)
[04:23] <kjm> paied : you coulda written that in 1 line................
[04:23] <neom> Well, Edgy Eft intel liveCD does not run on my macbook.
[04:23] <sicarus> you've actually got WoW working in linux THX-1138 ?
[04:23] <Gishnob> hey
[04:23] <paied> it runs fine with wine.
[04:23] <sicarus> wow
[04:24] <kjm> Will edgy support PPC?
[04:24] <Flannel> sicarus: check the forums, there are plenty of threads about it.  THX-1138, you too.  I'd check there.
[04:24] <Flannel> kjm: yes, dapper does.
[04:24] <lupine_85> yep
[04:24] <lupine_85> already does, in fact
[04:24] <eyequeue> kjm, #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[04:24] <twopoint0> why when i ./config it tells me there is no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[04:24] <THX-1138> sicarus - Yes using cedega and the 10 trail version anyway. - not too sure (if anything) will change with the retail version.
[04:24] <sicarus> nice =)
[04:24] <Flannel> twopoint0: have you installed build-essential yet?
[04:25] <twopoint0> this is my first 24 hours on linux
[04:25] <THX-1138> sicarus - Use the settings from cddb and refreshing the display with a resolution change helps a bit.
[04:25] <Flannel> !tell twopoint0 about compile
[04:25] <crogue5> sicarus, i have WoW working in linux, works better than in windows it seems
[04:25] <Flannel> twopoint0: that guide will help you compiling stuff
[04:26] <twopoint0> Flannel: thanks
[04:26] <THX-1138> I seem to recall a command to force a refresh of the display.  - bf ??
[04:26] <crogue5> THX-1138, nothing will change, you have the full game installed with the 10 day trial... you jsut update the account and login like you are doing now
[04:27] <wabz> writingdesk: looks to me like it's an nvidia bug (it's this bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/46034 )
[04:27] <twopoint0> Flannel: one other thing, when i try to change my theme, it tells me i need them in tar.gz format, but when i try to install a theme in tar.gz it tells me incorrect format, i can't find anything on it
[04:27] <Flannel> twopoint0: no idea.  gnome themes for ubuntu are exactly like gnome themes for ... gnome.  so, you won't need to find any ubuntu specific info.  I don't use gnome though, so I have no idea, sorry.
[04:27] <THX-1138> crogue - That only leaves me wondering why they sell the WoW trial disk for $2 and the retail box for $40
[04:28] <twopoint0> ok, thanks
[04:28] <mon^rch> when's the next release of ubuntu due... and what's it gonna be called?
[04:28] <kjm> !schedule
[04:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:29] <crogue5> THX-1138, you will have to pay the $40 when you go retail on your account
[04:29] <crogue5> THX-1138, a friend jsut did it a month ago, so you get your first month free when the retail purchase like if you would have bought the game from the store... no different on the net
[04:30] <crogue5> i gtg
[04:30] <Nrbelex> Is anybody here really good with VNC? Is there anywhere specific I should look for support?
[04:30] <THX-1138> Okay. - It has been fun. (my wife may have a different idea though. - lol)
[04:30] <variant> Nrbelex: you have been asking this for hours
[04:30] <A-L-P-H-A> How do I force ubuntu to recognize a usb CDROM, so I can burn a CD?  I turned the USB cdrom after linux started.
[04:30] <variant> Nrbelex: what is your specific problem?
[04:30] <Nrbelex> variant, this is, unfortunately, true
[04:31] <variant> A-L-P-H-A: does it show up in dmesg ?
[04:31] <mon^rch> ty kjm
[04:31] <variant> A-L-P-H-A: unplug it, run dmesg, plug it in, run dmesg again
[04:31] <Nrbelex> variant, after 20 seconds I routinely get signed off
[04:31] <A-L-P-H-A> variant: yeah. it does... "new highspeed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7".
[04:31] <Nrbelex> variant, with a different error message depending on the viewer I use - but I always get signed off
[04:31] <variant> Nrbelex: your looking for keepaliv or somthing
[04:32] <variant> A-L-P-H-A: right, so.. if you say.. open k3b does it detect it?
[04:32] <Toma-> A-L-P-H-A: cant mount a usb drive?
[04:32] <Nrbelex> variant, that's a user in here sometimes?
[04:32] <A-L-P-H-A> variant: I don't have k3b... let me install that
[04:32] <wanted> Exist one theme for gnome that transform the bar such as the MacOSX bar??
[04:32] <variant> Nrbelex: no, keepalive.. stops vnc or whatever service from timeing out.. its somthing you need to do
[04:32] <kjm> wanted : look into gdesklets
[04:33] <writingdesk> wabz:  Definately possible...
[04:33] <Nrbelex> variant, oh, sweet - thanks
[04:33] <Milchmann> hi, im trying to install american mcgee's alice in ubuntu. i've installed wine & loki. downloaded the loki installer, inserted both cds and now i dont know what to do ;) coulnd't find a howto in the net
[04:33] <A-L-P-H-A> Toma-: I don't know yet... I know my usb key gets recognized automaticcaly.
[04:34] <Asc> Milchmann: do you have a computer running windows?
[04:34] <Milchmann> yes
[04:34] <jUggERNAUt1980> Is there a way to veiw your password, or account on your machine; for say you would like to change it, and can you change it in terminal? or
[04:34] <gilesw> heya gang
[04:35] <variant> jUggERNAUt1980: you cant view the password, you can change it with passwd command though
[04:35] <gilesw> i'm totally sold on beryl alxgl
[04:35] <gilesw> really smooth
[04:35] <A-L-P-H-A> variant: k... k3b doesn't recognize the drive.
[04:35] <Asc> Milchmann: Installing AMA on windows, then using a no-cd hack, then moving the game directory to linux worked for me.
[04:35] <Asc> Milchmann: you might also try running the installer on the CD with wine
[04:35] <mheath> Why does the 'eclipse' package depend on mozilla-browser?
[04:35] <Asc> (but I don't know if that will work)
[04:36] <Milchmann> thx asc! i'll try try both
[04:36] <variant> A-L-P-H-A: no idea hten mate.. try the cdrecord program on its own
[04:36] <A-L-P-H-A> I wonder if I reboot if that'll work
[04:36] <cheatersrealm> what's the deal with ubuntu's compiz repositories, they're currently 'broken'
[04:36] <cheatersrealm> anyone know when they'll be back up?
[04:36] <Asc> Milchmann: or if it will work at all any more.  The last update of wine broke all the games that used to work for me.
[04:36] <Nrbelex> variant, are you talking about the keepalived package?
[04:37] <mikm> mheath, if I had to guess, it's because Eclipse has a browser in it
[04:38] <mheath> mikm, not really true...If you install the binary packages avilable from the eclipse site, theres no dependency on any browser.
[04:38] <cheatersrealm> doh
[04:38] <variant> Nrbelex: not specificaly, that might help though
[04:39] <mikm> Not sure why, then.
[04:39] <kamui> anyone know where I can get codeblcoks from?
[04:39] <kamui> I hear thats a really good IDE for SDL/C++ dev
[04:39] <kamui> code::blocks
[04:39] <kamui> but I can't seem to find it apt-cache searching
[04:40] <Milchmann> ac ok installing via wine is not working, trying it via windows now
[04:40] <Milchmann> asc ok installing via wine is not working, trying it via windows now
[04:40] <mikm> kamui, http://www.codeblocks.org/ ?
[04:40] <kjm> when apt-cache search doesn't work - how about google?  You have to compile code blocks yourself.  Check sourceforge.  Also - maybe create a .deb and submit it to a maintainer.
[04:41] <kamui> mikm: I C, there's no package in ubuntu?
[04:41] <kjm> kamui : http://www.codeblocks.org/
[04:41] <mikm> kamui, I guess not
[04:42] <mikm> kamui, I haven't searched the repos, so don't take my word for it
[04:42] <kjm> kamui - even bettter....with 20 more seconds with google. http://forums.codeblocks.org/index.php/topic,1194.0.html
[04:42] <kamui> well Ill be fine with one of the nightly builds from the website, thanks for the help
[04:44] <GigaClon> how can i set a users preferred language
[04:44] <GigaClon> I have a user that wants japanese
[04:45] <GigaClon> I have the language support installed for it
[04:45] <TuxthePenguin84> Can anyone tell me how to execute a script everytime I login via SSH/Console?
[04:45] <yokobr> pleasee
[04:45] <yokobr> someone help me with rar...
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> system admin language support dosent get you there?
[04:46] <GigaClon> I have it enabled there but how to set a user to use that language
[04:46] <yokobr> please guys
[04:46] <gilesw> anyone know how to get the envy24control mixer in ubuntu?
[04:46] <cherubiel> TuxthePenguin84: for bash, put it in .bash_profile, in the users home dir
[04:46] <GigaClon> !tell yokobr about rar
[04:46] <cherubiel> yokobr: whats the problem?
[04:46] <mikm> yokobr what's wrong?
[04:46] <TuxthePenguin84> cher... thanks
[04:46] <Berto> hi - new ubuntu user here, longtime linux user though...
[04:46] <yokobr> i cant unrar an archive
[04:47] <kjm> !rar
[04:47] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[04:47] <Berto> what do I do when apt-get remove    does not work?  I am getting an error from the uninstall script (of scim-gtk2-immodule)
[04:47] <Lam_> how do i get hibernation to work on my laptop? it "appears" to work but then opens in a pin-stripped screen and doesn't continue (i have an ATI video card)
[04:47] <Jack_Sparrow> GigaClon: I missed the subtlety of setting just one of your users to a specific language
[04:47] <briank> I am having a problem with Vim 7, would anybody care to help?
[04:48] <mikm> briank, what sorts of problems?
[04:48] <GigaClon> I can't even find how to change it on a system-basis
[04:48] <Milchmann> asc ok got it installed & cracked on windows. now i copy the game dir to .wine/drive_c in my home and simply run via wine?
[04:49] <karrotx> woah
[04:49] <karrotx> slow it down
[04:49] <Dethklok> Is there a config file that you edit to rid the console of the system beep?
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> GigaClon: Not at the bottom of that screen default language for new user etc... something linke that
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> time for dinner  cya
[04:49] <Asc> Milchman: You can copy it to anywhere, but yeah.  It also helps if you sacrifice a small animal to the dark gods.
[04:49] <GigaClon> yeah the account already exists
[04:49] <Milchmann> i try to catch one
[04:49] <kjm> Asc - if that animal is a virgin - the better
[04:50] <Asc> kjm: Da.  Da.  Although with most rhodents....
[04:50] <GigaClon> there doesn't seem to be anyway to change language period
[04:50] <GigaClon> help
[04:51] <Tonren> Guys, I just got my Wacom Tablet working, but I can't do anything even a little precise with it because it's really SHAKEY.
[04:51] <Tonren> Has anyone had this problem before?
[04:51] <cherubiel> Dethklok: System->Preferences->Sound, under the System Beep tab,
[04:51] <cherubiel> uncheck Enable system beep - if you need some sort of entry under /proc
[04:51] <cfh_dev> I've got all my data transferred to a new drive but now need to install Grub to the mbr.
[04:51] <cfh_dev> What's the command to do that?
[04:52] <Lothar> can someone tell me the comand line to unrar a file
[04:52] <karrotx> ok, question
[04:52] <karrotx> why ubuntu over debian?
[04:52] <karrotx> o
[04:52] <lastnode> Lothar, apt-get install unrar-free
[04:52] <briank> I can't get backspace to work in vim 7 any takers?
[04:52] <Lothar> ty
[04:52] <karrotx> i've read the ubuntu web page and still have these questions
[04:52] <lastnode> karrotx, stuff liket aht goes in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[04:52] <cfh_dev> Lothar, then unrar x somefile.rar
[04:52] <Asc> Tonren: This is a long shot, but you could try messing with mouse settings.  Reduce speed and acceleration(possibly to minimum values)
[04:52] <karrotx> lastnode: ok
[04:52] <mikm> briank, I assume you are in insert mode
[04:52] <kjm> karrotx - Why not?  Faster release cycle, legacy support, terrific user support, more recent packages, easier install.....
[04:53] <kjm> anything I missed?
[04:53] <briank> yes
[04:53] <Asc> cfh_dev: grub-install /dev/install-device
[04:53] <cfh_dev> Asc: I get this message on that command (grub-install /dev/hdf)
[04:54] <cfh_dev> /dev/hdf does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[04:54] <karrotx> kjm: this isn't a troll, however, define "easier install"
[04:54] <kjm> karrotx - x is configured for you, everything (excluding wireless) works out of the box.  Debian is a little bit more work to get up and running (IMHO)
[04:55] <Tonren> Asc: I doubt that's it, but worth a shot
[04:55] <karrotx> kjm: cool
[04:55] <karrotx> thanks for the info
[04:55] <Asc> cfh_def: New one on me.  Uh, is the position the drive occupies on the IDE interface enabled in BIOS? :\
[04:56] <briank> mikm, I typed :set nocp, otherwise I can't get into insert mode, and once I am backspace won't go up to the next line
[04:56] <Asc> Tonren: It's all I've got.  I had a similar problem when I enabled 2x mouse acceleration once.
[04:56] <hellgrazer> karrotx: I can understand what you are saying.. there are a few problems with special hardware, but I started out on slackware, and I'm keeping it as my desktop distro.
[04:56] <Tonren> Asc: Hmm...
[04:56] <Asc> cfh_dev: also, is it a SATA drive?
[04:57] <cfh_dev> Asc: nope.  It's IDE with XFS\
[04:57] <cfh_dev> Asc, I just ran grub-install --recheck /dev/hdf and seem to have something more to work with now
[04:57] <kjm> Exactly - I started with Debian, then discovered Libranet.  When that folded I floated for a bit.  Went debian, tried Fedora.  But, I've finally settled on Ubuntu and it has polish.  (although I really miss libranet....)
[04:57] <Asc> cfh_dev: Excellent.
[04:57] <gu014> i am trying to log into a LAN comp via ssh and i continue to receive a permission denied error msg after typing the password when i absolutely know the password is correct....would anyone be able to help me out?
[04:59] <Tonren> Asc: Ugh... now pressure sensitivity doesn't work
[04:59] <gu014> what permission should /home dir be set to as maybe there is a permission problem that is limititing my access via ssh?
[05:00] <Davey> How can I check if I have a firewall running, and if so, turn it off? From CLI
[05:00] <wickedpuppy> gu014, is sshd running ?  does is ssh port open ?
[05:00] <gu014> wickedpuppy: yes, and yes
[05:00] <wickedpuppy> gu014, can you ssh inside locally ?
[05:01] <Asc> Tonren: I do find it's handy to keep a windows partition.
[05:01] <gu014> wickedpuppy: i am able accept the certificate, enter user name..and when i type in the password i receive a permission denied error message
[05:01] <czer323> !acpi
[05:01] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[05:01] <gu014> wickedpuppy: i am able accept the certificate, enter user name..and when i type in the password i receive a permission denied error message
[05:01] <Tonren> Asc: Yeah, but I never use it.  I just suffer in Linux, because who wants to restart, boot back into Windows, do whatever the hell it is you have to do, then wait for Linux to boot again?
[05:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall
[05:01] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[05:01] <gu014> wickedpuppy: yes, i can ssh into localhost
[05:01] <wickedpuppy> gu014, are you logging in as user or root ?
[05:02] <gu014> wickedpuppy: user
[05:02] <Milchmann> asc it really works. high resolution, graphics running smooth... i'm just missing the sound ;) did you get the sound working?
[05:03] <Tonren> Hey guys, is there a screen recorder for Linux?  To make movies out of what's on your screen?
[05:03] <Asc> Tonren: Linux boots in 50 seconds for me :)
[05:03] <gu014> wickedpuppy: also, when i try and ssh in vice versa, i receive the same errors
[05:03] <jUggERNAUt1980> Is it possible to open up a comprehensive list of commands for terminal in terminal?
[05:03] <Tonren> Asc: It's a little slower for me
[05:04] <wickedpuppy> gu014, can paste the /etc/ssh/sshd_config in pastebin ?
[05:04] <Asc> Tonren: Yeah, it's a pain.  But at least everything works, one way or the other.
[05:04] <hellgrazer> Tonren: I've seen one that does flash recordings... is that what you want?
[05:04] <kjm> ping 193
[05:04] <kjm> *sorry - wrong window
[05:04] <Tonren> hellgrazer: Sure, anything tha tworks
[05:04] <gu014> um, i am not able to do that
[05:05] <gu014> wickedpuppy: box is remote
[05:05] <kjm> heh, I can ping my laptop - but I don't remember where it is in the house.
[05:05] <gu014> wickedpuppy: any particular section i should type in
[05:05] <wickedpuppy> gu014, section ?
[05:05] <cycom> kjm: HAHAHAHAHA!
[05:06] <cycom> kjm: send it bells or something so it starts beepign
[05:06] <cycom> beeping*
[05:06] <Milchmann> Asc, did you get the sound in AMA working?
[05:06] <root__> I just ran gparted to resize my /home to make room to install windows
[05:06] <Asc> Milchmann: Nice.  Mine never ran playably.  For sound, just play around with the settings in the program winecfg.  I'm not familiar with the audio configuration with the new version, because it always crashes when I click on that tab
[05:06] <hellgrazer> Tonren: there are a few.. you can use something with VLC or another program that starts with a G... I'll google it for ya.
[05:06] <Milchmann> ok thx
[05:06] <janina07> hi
[05:06] <gu014> wickedpuppy: i have the same problem when i try and log in to this pc from the pc in question...shall i paste the contents of this sshd_config?
[05:06] <root__> but /home was in an extended partition
[05:06] <kjm> heh - it's an apple.  So, I'll just send a crazy intense task to it and wait for the battery to catch fire :)
[05:06] <kjm> be easy to see then
[05:06] <root__> how do I get the free space to be primary
[05:06] <wickedpuppy> gu014, pls
[05:06] <cycom> root__: you have to resize the extended partition to be smaller.
[05:07] <cycom> I think you also have to shift it to the end of the drive.  iirc you can't have primaries after the extended.
[05:07] <gu014> wickedpuppy: unfortunately, i am not familiar with pastebin, can you help me out?
[05:07] <gu014> wickedpuppy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[05:07] <wickedpuppy> !pastebin
[05:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:08] <wickedpuppy> yup
[05:08] <TiG4> How do you restart ALSA?
[05:08] <hellgrazer> Tonren: look for vncrec, vnc2swf, and xvidcap
[05:08] <ArrenLex> TiG: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils force-reload
[05:09] <TiG4> ArrenLex, Thanks!
[05:09] <ogami1972> it wasn't enough that life is an often pointless struggle, that relationships are filled with lies and pain, and that gos spends his spare time laughing at me...now my flash-sound is mysteriously broken, no USB mouse control, and no ability to install proprietary drivers
[05:09] <Audimage> is there an app to unzip rar files for linux
[05:09] <kjm> !rar
[05:09] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[05:09] <wickedpuppy> !unrar-free
[05:09] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[05:09] <Audimage> thanks
[05:09] <TiG4> ArrenLex, For some reason, out of nowhere my sound doesnt work.
[05:09] <gu014> wickedpuppy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24844
[05:09] <TiG4> ArrenLex, when I type esd I get this
[05:09] <TiG4> sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils force-reload
[05:09] <TiG4> ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:222:(make_local_socket) connect failed: /tmp/alsa-dmix-2035-1159135938-937289: No such file or directory
[05:09] <TiG4> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:851:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to connect client
[05:10] <Milchmann> asc ok winecfg is crashing when i go to the audio tab in settings :(
[05:10] <JavaDeveloper> Hello, how do I enable my apache2 to externel IP address? or at least not 127.0.0.1?
[05:10] <TiG4> JavaDeveloper, It should be enabled by default
[05:10] <TiG4> JavaDeveloper, Try XAMMP
[05:10] <TiG4> XAMPP
[05:10] <Milchmann> it says ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[05:10] <JavaDeveloper> TiG4: what's XAMMP?
[05:10] <Asc> Milchmann: Heh, by golly. :\
[05:11] <JavaDeveloper> TiG4: is it? cuz I tried setting it up with my router port 80 forwarding to my local IP, it doesn't work
[05:11] <ArrenLex> TiG: it seems to have lost some files it needs. I'm sorry to go all microsoft on you, but... try rebooting.
[05:11] <TiG4> JavaDeveloper, It's a standalone everything build
[05:11] <Asc> Milchmann: same error it gives me
[05:11] <TiG4> JavaDeveloper, http://www.apachefriends.org
[05:11] <JavaDeveloper> TiG4: I think I know why, thanks a lot
[05:11] <TiG4> ArrenLex, think a gnome logout would work? I cant restart the Server
[05:12] <TiG4> JavaDeveloper, NP
[05:12] <ArrenLex> TiG: probably not, no.
[05:12] <TiG4> Darn
[05:12] <Milchmann> hm ok, i try a post at the forum, maybe someone knows a solution
[05:12] <ArrenLex> TiG: why can't you restart?
[05:12] <wickedpuppy> gu014, thats a default sshd ... i see nothing added there ...
[05:12] <TiG4> ArrenLex, Running an ircd off this box
[05:12] <wickedpuppy> shound't have a problem
[05:12] <ArrenLex> Oh.
[05:12] <JairunCaloth> My new 5.1 surround sound system isn't outputing sound to the correct channels. I do have divers installed for my soundcard however I"m not positive everything is properly configured for it. I"m using NVIDIA CK804 as a sound card. Also I know all the speakers are properly connected, as everything plays on the proper chanel in windows.
[05:12] <TiG4> ArrenLex, Haven't setup the leaf yet
[05:12] <Asc> Milchmann: The file appears to be under /dev/.static/dev/snd/seq.  There might be two ways to do this: one is to edit the wine config file to point at the correct path, the other is to make a link at the wrong location pointing to the correct location
[05:13] <Milchmann> ok, i try the 2nd way
[05:13] <supermiguel> where can i find the original proftp config??
[05:13] <gu014> wickedpuppy: that is correct, i have not added anything, it had been working up until the other day
[05:13] <wickedpuppy> gu014, can you restart sshd and try again ? sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[05:14] <wickedpuppy> working until the other day ? so the config is fine ... i suppose you got to figure out what has been changed since the other day :P
[05:14] <gu014> wickedpuppy: same result
[05:14] <gu014> wickedpuppy: restart on both sides
[05:14] <TiG4> ArrenLex, Got it working
[05:15] <Milchmann> asc i dont have snd/seq in /dev/.static/dev and i cant find that file via locate
[05:15] <TiG4> ArrenLex, there was a file in my home folder that I had deleted by accident some alsa temp file
[05:15] <TiG4> it was looking for that file in /tmp
[05:15] <TiG4> so I moved it there
[05:15] <Asc> ls Milchmann: Working on it.
[05:15] <TiG4> esd now works
[05:15] <TiG4> :)
[05:15] <wickedpuppy> gu014, then i assume you have not touched /etc/ssh/ssh_config too ?
[05:15] <gu014> wickedpuppy: i have not
[05:15] <ArrenLex> TiG: that would be, uh, bad.
[05:15] <Milchmann> ok
[05:15] <TiG4> ArrenLex, heh why?
[05:15] <Audimage> I am hving trouble networking my windows xp notebook and my dapper desktop
[05:16] <wickedpuppy> gu014, then i give up ... by default it shouldn't act like this ..
[05:16] <ArrenLex> Tig: deleting random files.
[05:16] <Audimage> is there a way to do it?
[05:16] <ArrenLex> TiG: getting it to work is good.
[05:16] <TiG4> ArrenLex, It was in my home dir
[05:16] <TiG4> ArrenLex, Shouldnt have been there
[05:16] <Milchmann> Audimage, with samba
[05:16] <ArrenLex> TiG: I don't know what happen. Maybe somebody set us up the bomb?
[05:16] <wickedpuppy> gu014, sorry dude ... i was sure the problem was with the authentication in config file
[05:16] <wickedpuppy> damn
[05:16] <Audimage> milchmann, i used samba, but i can't see the shared folder on my laptop, and i can't see my laptop on my desktop
[05:16] <TiG4> ArrenLex, MMM ZIgg
[05:16] <beuno> is the wikipedia down, or is it just me?
[05:16] <gu014> wickedpuppy: i believe this must be stemming from an added user? i added a user the other day and deleted it today, is it possible that some permissions have gotten mixed around?
[05:17] <wickedpuppy> gu014, can you try as root ?
[05:17] <invictus_> hey can i join the conversation?
[05:17] <gu014> i dont have that enabled
[05:17] <kjm> !ask < invictus
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask < invictus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <wickedpuppy> # Authentication:
[05:17] <wickedpuppy> LoginGraceTime 120
[05:17] <wickedpuppy> PermitRootLogin yes
[05:17] <hellgrazer> ArrenLex: up <--> us  :)
[05:17] <wickedpuppy> yes you have
[05:17] <invictus_> i have a problem connecting to the net
[05:17] <Milchmann> Audimage,  i have entered the following lines in the /etc/fstab //192.168.0.1/WinXP /media/C6PO3 smbfs username=xxxx,password=xxxx,uid=1000,noauto,user  0  0
[05:18] <Milchmann> its the only way i got it working
[05:18] <JavaDeveloper> how do I make thunderbird to be my default mail client?
[05:18] <linoleum> hi, where can I read my log about the boot?
[05:19] <wickedpuppy> JavaDeveloper, system -> preference - >prefered apps
[05:19] <JavaDeveloper> wickedpuppy: ic ic...thank you so much....
[05:19] <wickedpuppy> np :P
[05:21] <gu014> wickedpuppy: i believe it is a firewall issue as i just added the rule in my ubuntu pc...logged in from the ubuntu server and it worked....can you direct me as to the command to add this rule into the server firewall(iptables?)
[05:21] <JairunCaloth> Can anyone help me get my new 5.1 surround sound setup to output to the correct chanels? I know the hardware is properly setup, everything plays in the correct chanels in windows
[05:21] <Asc> Milchmann: got it.  do 'cd /dev/snd;sudo ln -s /dev/.static/dev/snd/seq seq'
[05:21] <wickedpuppy> gu014, pls get firestarter
[05:21] <wickedpuppy> its a very neat gui firewall :P
[05:21] <Milchmann> thx, will try later!!
[05:21] <gu014> wickedpuppy: i can, ubuntu server is console
[05:21] <gu014> cant*
[05:21] <wickedpuppy> oh the server heh ..
[05:22] <Asc> Milchmann: Best of luck.
[05:22] <Milchmann> thx
[05:22] <kjm>  JairunCaloth ; havent read this whole thing - but http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=113145
[05:22] <wickedpuppy> heh my iptables sux .... can you look into your ubuntu iptables ? sudo iptables -L
[05:23] <kjm> peeps who've had issues.  I don't have 5.1 myself - so don't know.
[05:24] <jUggERNAUt1980> Ok, when I  try to configure the network card in terminal I get: ip: Host name lookup failure... What does this mean, and what do I do from here?
[05:24] <kjm>  JairunCaloth - here as well http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~bondhugu/alsamch.shtml
[05:24] <JairunCaloth> jkm: heh, that's almost my exact setup
[05:24] <sgleo87> trying to get my g15 keyboard to work with the g15 daemon...installed everything but getting the following error message wnen trying to run g15daemon: g15daemon: error while loading shared libraries: libg15.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:26] <hellgrazer> jUggERNAUt1980: what command are you typing in the terminal?
[05:27] <oscarillo> hi there
[05:28] <sgleo87> trying to get my g15 keyboard to work with the g15 daemon...installed everything but getting the following error message wnen trying to run g15daemon: g15daemon: error while loading shared libraries: libg15.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. Anybody have any idea how to fix that?
[05:28] <jUggERNAUt1980> hellgraver:I am tryin initiate configure a network,and I am on the first step
[05:30] <mexicandu37> wickedpuppy: im dumb..there was an ip conflict on lan..server and pc had the same ip
[05:30] <gilesw> hrm is writable ntfs mounting built into ubuntu now?
[05:30] <gilesw> i tried following a guide and i get ntfs-fuse unknown
[05:31] <ArrenLex> gilesw: as far as I know it's still highly experimental and dangerous.
[05:31] <ArrenLex> !fuse
[05:31] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[05:31] <Roger_The_Bum> does ubuntu support RFC 1149?
[05:31] <wickedpuppy> mexicandu37, oh ah ... :P
[05:31] <hellgrazer> jUggERNAUt1980: what does ifconfig give you?
[05:32] <gilesw> yea thats the guide i'm using
[05:32] <wickedpuppy> it happened to me many times ... so ya .. you aren't shit yet ... not tell you done rm -rf / ...
[05:32] <ArrenLex> gilsew: you're willing to risk corrupting your ntfs partition?
[05:32] <wickedpuppy> *till
[05:32] <TuxthePenguin84> ifconfig should output ethernet device info
[05:32] <gilesw> I've got a backup of it
[05:33] <SurfnKid> hi guys i have a bit of a problem with a rename technique that got one thing running but another not showing
[05:33] <cliffd> anyone using mythtv with ubuntu? find any good documents to help you with the install?
[05:33] <wickedpuppy> !mythtv
[05:33] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[05:34] <oscarillo> does anyone know why the file association in nautilus could not work? I cannot switch the application in the "open with" tab
[05:34] <wickedpuppy> SurfnKid, whats the technique ?
[05:34] <hellgrazer> TuxthePenguin84: heh.. that's the info I need from jUggERNAUt1980.
[05:34] <cliffd> wickedpuppy: thanks.
[05:34] <wickedpuppy> :P
[05:34] <SurfnKid> i renamed the eth1 wireless adapter to wlan0 (succssfully) but the taskbar icon shows with a red STOP on it, but im online, and iwconfig shows im connected to the router, how can i get the taskbar to refresh the newly cchanged wlan0 and show its up
[05:34] <TuxthePenguin84> hellgrazer: hah
[05:34] <jUggERNAUt1980> how do you type to some one's name so it is in the red?
[05:34] <wickedpuppy> SurfnKid, tried rebooting yet ?
[05:35] <Soheil> hey, i'm behind DHCP, i got my ethernet setup on DHCP and my router IP for servername, can't connect to internet, any suggestions?
[05:35] <SurfnKid> yes actually that had given me problems before because the name hadnt shown up on iwconfig, but i rebooted and now it does.  the only thing is that when i drag the mouse over the icon, it says Network Connection: eth1
[05:35] <harisund> What is the name of the router on which you can install Linux? Can you install Ubuntu on it/
[05:35] <SurfnKid> but thats dead, gone, no more,
[05:36] <TuxthePenguin84> Linksys WRT54G i think.... Last I saw they were coming with linux firmware installed
[05:36] <SurfnKid> but it doesnt show that its on
[05:36] <SurfnKid> even my tleds are dead
[05:36] <Flannel> TuxthePenguin84: not the most recent versions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrt54g
[05:36] <SurfnKid> some process still thinks its eth1 even tho my wlan0 connection is actively renamed to wlan0
[05:37] <harisund> Thanks TuxthePenguin84 ... I was just curious ... at home right now I have a Linux box acting as a router ... which is connected to a wireless access point ..
[05:37] <wickedpuppy> SurfnKid, then its gnome problem ? since the network is fine ... ifconfig shows the correct name tight ?
[05:37] <cycom> They make the WRT54GL still, for hacking up, but no, ubuntu won't fit on it.
[05:37] <gilesw> heh
[05:37] <gilesw> i got a wrt off ebay
[05:37] <ArrenLex> A wart?
[05:37] <ArrenLex> Yay warts. o_o
[05:37] <gilesw> and a slug :P
[05:37] <ArrenLex> Fun.
[05:37] <hellgrazer> jUggERNAUt1980: That is determined by your IRC client.  Aren't you worried about getting your network running instead of pretty IRC colors?
[05:38] <Flannel> cycom: you can still find plenty older WRT54Gs out there, just have to check serial numbers
[05:38] <SurfnKid> wickedpuppy, now it does, but for instance tleds is a Tx/Rx monitor that blinks on my NUM and SCROLL LOCK  LEDS... I renamed it to wlan0 and they arent working, only if its on eth1
[05:38] <TuxthePenguin84> Yea the [L]  denotes the Linux  firmware
[05:38] <cycom> Flannel: WRT54GSs work too.
[05:38] <Flannel> cycom: right, they just have extra RAM/memory, I've actually got a GS myself.
[05:38] <harisund> But what is the attraction behind that? I mean, I can get my Linux box to behave as a router right now, and I don't see what I am missing by not having a wrt..
[05:38] <TuxthePenguin84> Anyone a fan of woot.com?
[05:39] <jUggERNAUt1980> hellgrazer: Very much indeed I am, But I wanted to be sure you were about to see my messages,and know  that I am talking to you
[05:39] <cycom> I haev a regular G and a GS
[05:39] <cycom> I bought 2, just because of the linux thing.  Running kismet drone on em is a snap
[05:39] <wickedpuppy> SurfnKid, no idea about those though ... sorry ... since you have restarted the whole computer , there be no use asking you to restart X
[05:40] <Flannel> harisund: the linksys firmware on there can be reflashed (it's GPLd so they had to release) with better firmware, you can include functionality not already there.  like traffic shaping, and other stuff, that wouldn't normally be found on routers sub $100
[05:40] <SurfnKid> wickedpuppy, yeah, i just want to have wlan0 show up on everything, but it seems its only partially recognized, and every other process still wants to use eth1
[05:40] <Flannel> anyway, this is all -offtopic, #ubuntu-offtopic for anyone else who wishes to continue router discussions
[05:40] <ArrenLex> My router is YOUR MOTHER.
[05:40] <ArrenLex> ....sorry, I just had to get that out there.
[05:40] <ArrenLex> Right. On topic. I can do that.
[05:40] <harisund> ok sorry Flannel ...sure..
[05:41] <hellgrazer> jUggERNAUt1980: ah.. we'll start a query then.. one on one chat. I can't miss any messages that way now can I? :)
[05:41] <Berto> i plan on buying one of those routers and pimping it out with linux tooo.... have to research which ones work and all tho
[05:41] <TuxthePenguin84> I'm new to IRC... I'm assuming there are moderators here?
[05:42] <Madpilot> TuxthePenguin84, yes
[05:42] <briguyd> can anyone help me with mounting a networked samba folder?
[05:42] <chalcedony> TuxthePenguin84: there are .. are you looking for help with Ubuntu ?
[05:42] <JairunCaloth> ok...
[05:42] <ArrenLex> !smbfs
[05:42] <ubotu> smbfs: mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x). In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 369 kB, installed size 888 kB
[05:42] <TuxthePenguin84> chalcedony, no not right now. thanks though
[05:43] <JairunCaloth> I"ve got most of the speakers putting out on the correct channel. However, my sub and center speakers are still backwards
[05:43] <briguyd> im pretty sure i'd be able to do it under ubuntu, but im on xubuntu, so i cant use all that GUI stuff, have to do it from the command line
[05:44] <briguyd> i installed samba and everything, just not sure on the commands to mount a networked folder
[05:44] <ArrenLex> birguyd: man smbmount
[05:44] <briguyd> which i already sat up under linux to be shared with samba
[05:44] <briguyd> ArrenLex, i tried that, im still confused
[05:45] <TuxthePenguin84> birdguyd: mount -t smbfs //ipaddress/sharename /media/folder
[05:45] <ArrenLex> briguyd: sharing a local folder and mounting a network folder are different.
[05:45] <ArrenLex> Yes.
[05:45] <briguyd> what is the "sharename"?
[05:45] <Brokenstein> hiya
[05:46] <ArrenLex> So if you have a computer in your network named Downstairs, and it has a shared folder on it called EvilPlans, and you want to mount that to /home/bob/takeovertheworld, then you would run the command sudo mount -t smbfs //Downstairs/EvilPlans /home/bob/takeovertheworld
[05:46] <TuxthePenguin84> briguyd, to help me understand your situation better are you trying to mount to a windows share?
[05:47] <briguyd> TuxthePenguin84, nope
[05:47] <briguyd> another ubuntu box
[05:48] <ArrenLex> briguyd: that help?
[05:48] <Asc> What is the name of the program used to change monitor resolutions?
[05:48] <hellgrazer> Ah.. I like the /media folder, but I just haven't grasped the knack for it yet.  I always run for /mnt first.
[05:48] <Telroth_Plushie|> randr?
[05:49] <briguyd> i tried sudo mount -t smbfs //ip/sharename /media/whatever/ and it says "10935: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)"
[05:49] <TuxthePenguin84> briguyd if im not mistaken you need to setup samba shares in /etc/smb.conf
[05:49] <briguyd> TuxthePenguin84, how?
[05:49] <briguyd> i set up the sharing computer with the file manager
[05:50] <Brokenstein> can anyone help me getting at least some syncing working with my pda?
[05:51] <Audimage> can anybody help me network my Dapper desktop to my XP laptop
[05:51] <TuxthePenguin84> briguyd open /etc/smb.conf with a text editor and scroll down to "Share Definitions" I think this is where you set what folders you want to share
[05:51] <briguyd> TuxthePenguin84, on which machine?
[05:52] <TuxthePenguin84> briguyd the one that is hosting the files
[05:52] <TuxthePenguin84> Audi, ask away
[05:52] <briguyd> TuxthePenguin84, oh, shouldnt the file manager un gnome do that automagically?
[05:52] <TuxthePenguin84> It might automatically find Samba shares that you define in the Share Definitions
[05:52] <Audimage> I am unable to see either of my computers through my router, i KNOW my router works, i just can't get my desktop (dapper) to recognize it
[05:53] <Audimage> i can't ping my laptop (xp)
[05:53] <piggie> 'wc
[05:53] <Brokenstein> does gnome pilot even work? i havent found anything useful online yet
[05:53] <briguyd> TuxthePenguin84, no, if i use the gnome file manager to set up the share in the first place, shouldnt it be added to that file?
[05:53] <TuxthePenguin84> I'm assuming I dont think Ive done it your way before
[05:54] <jUggERNAUt1980> hellgrazer I am using XChat for my icr, and my messages are not getting to In DCC
[05:54] <briguyd> if i do "smbtree" it shows up as "\\COMPUTER-NAME\Share-Name"
[05:54] <Skarr> well, I give up on ubuntu guys. I just cant get the driver to work. So, I deleted the partition, now how do I set the extra space from that partition to my main partition?
[05:55] <hellgrazer> jUggERNAUt1980: are you not seeing my messages to you?
[05:55] <jUggERNAUt1980> yes
[05:55] <Flannel> Skarr: get a windows partitioner, and reformat it, or re-merge it into your main partition
[05:55] <jUggERNAUt1980> but you are not see mine
[05:55] <Brokenstein> can anyone tell me if theyve had any success with gnome pilot?
[05:55] <jUggERNAUt1980> seeing
[05:56] <TuxthePenguin84> birguyd yes smbtree will list any and all shares samba/windows
[05:56] <briguyd> so then why cant i mount it?
[05:57] <hellgrazer> jUggERNAUt1980: ah.. I learn something new every day.  I was sure I could message you..
[05:57] <TuxthePenguin84> briguyd, what was the error you were getting again?
[05:57] <Madpilot> jUggERNAUt1980, you need to identify to nickserv
[05:57] <briguyd> "10935: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)" "SMB connection failed"
[05:58] <TuxthePenguin84> you doing a sudo on it first?
[05:58] <briguyd> yep
[05:58] <TuxthePenguin84> just for fun whats the share name?
[05:58] <jUggERNAUt1980> How do I identify to nickserv?
[05:58] <Flannel> jUggERNAUt1980: /msg nickserv help register
[05:58] <briguyd> Big_Music
[05:58] <stephans> hi
[05:58] <GomezDen> I've changed the interfaces file for static but then i cant ping anything out of my network. Is there a DNS setting or gateway line i have to add?
[05:59] <briguyd> (its a 500 GB usb external drive with lotsa music)
[05:59] <hellgrazer> Madpilot: ah.. I had no idea.. I though everyone did that anyway :)
[05:59] <TuxthePenguin84> briguyd so your doing: sudo mount -t smbfs //192.168.1.100/Big_Music /media/music ..... or something similar?
[05:59] <briguyd> yes, but 192.168.1.102
[05:59] <TuxthePenguin84> k
[05:59] <briguyd> exactly the same but that
[05:59] <Davo_Dinkum> Hi all.
[05:59] <TuxthePenguin84> have you done sudo apt-get install smbfs?
[06:00] <briguyd> yes
[06:00] <stephans> i am running ubuntu server for my web server... does anyone know if ubuntu has a script somewhere that restarts apache every couple of days???
[06:00] <TuxthePenguin84> and its not password protected?
[06:00] <unfknblvbl> !ico
[06:00] <ubotu> ico: X client - ico. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 14 kB, installed size 88 kB
[06:00] <briguyd> which password do i type when it asks for one?
[06:00] <unfknblvbl> !.ico
[06:00] <Davo_Dinkum> Can anyone help me with this?: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenVirtualMachine/XenOnUbuntuDapper
[06:00] <stephans> cuz it does not start again... since i have ssl with paassword enabled
[06:00] <briguyd> the machine is, to log on, i dont think the file is protected
[06:00] <chicalinux> hi
[06:00] <GomezDen> briguyd: you use add the user name and password to the mount command
[06:00] <TuxthePenguin84> when you sudo the mount just enter the admin password like usual
[06:00] <cherubiel> briguyd: 10935: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)" "SMB connection failed
[06:01] <cherubiel> briguyd: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=461202 sorry
[06:01] <jUggERNAUt1980> REGISTER <password>
[06:01] <GomezDen> can anyone help me with a networking issue?
[06:01] <chicalinux> i am triying to create a iso whit the reconstruc program but is not doing the trick
[06:01] <jUggERNAUt1980> hehe, I have no idea where do this at
[06:01] <hellgrazer> GomezDen: depends on the issue :)
[06:02] <Flannel> jUggERNAUt1980: in a query with nickserv
[06:02] <chicalinux> please help :(
[06:02] <GomezDen> hellgrazer: well I cant ping anything other then LAN computers after i set my stuff to static.
[06:02] <Rob-West> how do i register
[06:02] <unfknblvbl> what linux app can read .ico files ?
[06:03] <GomezDen> hellgrazer: doing this all CL though.
[06:03] <chicalinux> nobady?
[06:03] <briguyd> brb
[06:03] <Rob-West> hello
[06:04] <cherubiel> whats the problem, chicalinux ?
[06:04] <hellgrazer> GomezDen: ok.. I need to know a little about your setup..
[06:04] <cpk1> anyone have any insight on setting up a wireless dhcpd server with ubuntu?
[06:04] <chicalinux> i am triying to creato a custom iso  whit reconstruc program but is not working
[06:05] <GomezDen> hellgrazer: changed the interfaces file, changed dhcp to static, added lines address 192.168.1.5 submask 255.255.255.0
[06:05] <chicalinux> i am usig a iso of dapper
[06:05] <GomezDen> hellgrazer: as it showed in the man file
[06:05] <Skarr> anyone know a network adapter that has drivers for linux?
[06:05] <chicalinux> i need a live cd of ubuntu or i can use the dapper iso ?
[06:06] <GomezDen> hellgrazer: it just seems like the DNS is no longer working, thought the resolv.conf file did that but i think i was wrong :(
[06:06] <jUggERNAUt1980> Flannel: Ok, I am reading the directions on freenode. net..I should be aight
[06:06] <hellgrazer> GomezDen: what man file are you following?
[06:07] <GomezDen> hellgrazer: man interfaces id assume itd be the GNU or what not
[06:07] <lastnode> where does dpkg unpack sources to?
[06:08] <GomezDen> hellgrazer: ill admit to having debian network install but ubuntu is debian is it not?
[06:08] <lastnode> (on apt-get source)
[06:08] <hellgrazer> GomezDen: actually Ubuntu is based on Debian.
[06:08] <jUggERNAUt1980> #
[06:08] <jUggERNAUt1980>     /msg nickserv register <your-password>
[06:09] <GomezDen> hellgrazer: any who the config files are almost all the same across linux
[06:09] <chicalinux> i need to use ubuntu to to work whit  reconstruc becuse i am in Debian
[06:10] <flemnos> jUggERNAUt1980, without the spaces in front
[06:10] <GomezDen> hellgrazer: u have any ideas?
[06:10] <hellgrazer> jUggERNAUt1980: where it says "<your-password>" replace that with a password you will remember (eg. /msg nickserv register homeslice)
[06:10] <chicalinux> i reed the man but is very clear of what distro i need to use or if reconstruc work whit ebian
[06:10] <Skarr> anyone know a network adapter that has drivers for linux?
[06:10] <jUggERNAUt1980> Thanks!
[06:10] <hellgrazer> brb.. phone call
[06:11] <briguyd> i'm still getting the same error after using cherubiel's instructions
[06:11] <GomezDen> Skarr: yours seems to be working fine:)
[06:11] <nomasteryoda> Skarr, wifi?
[06:12] <quiteFrank> hi all how do I duplicate a bootable floppy
[06:12] <Skarr> GomezDen: I'm not using linux, im using windows. I spent 3 days on here vigorously trying to figure out how to be able to get the D-Link wireless network adapter to pick up the signal from my router, cause It doesnt have drivers for linux so I just gave up and uninstalled but i decided I should give it one last chance and just try buying a new adapter
[06:13] <tuv> why would gkrellm use too much cpu? it gets my pentium M to reach its max. frequency and stay at 75%+ usage !!
[06:13] <briguyd> TuxthePenguin84, any ideas?
[06:13] <cliffd> anyone know why my vim isnt doing context highlighting for php?
[06:13] <cpk1> Skarr: have you looked into ndiswrapper?
[06:13] <cartufer> skarr, try the prism 2 chipset
[06:13] <GomezDen> skarr: not sure but NDISwrapper
[06:13] <tuv> it doesn't do that on my other debian machine!
[06:13] <GomezDen> skarr: listen to cpk1 he sounds smarter :)
[06:13] <Skarr> cpk1: Yeah, but it doesnt have an .inf file
[06:14] <withayanda> i'm suddenly having problems w/ my cd drive not mounting.  where do i start?
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> Skarr, if you are talking for a laptop, you can get a nice internal card for it...
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> i use the intel chipset
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> paid 22$
[06:14] <TuxthePenguin84> briguyd, no sorry
[06:14] <ArrenLex> withayanada: does it give you an error message?
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> and it is "centrino" certifid
[06:14] <Skarr> cpk1: and i looked on the ndis wrapper list on the wiki and it said a link to the inf for it but it was a broken link, and I let out a big long darth vader "noooooo!"
[06:14] <GomezDen> skarr: google it
[06:15] <Skarr> GomezDen: I did, it just doesnt come with an inf
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> http://www.provantage.com/intel-wm3b2915abgnax~7ITEN08Q.htm
[06:15] <jUggERNAUt1980> I'm registered no apparently so I should be able to do whatever now I hope?
[06:15] <Skarr> i guess im just too stupid for linux
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> oh well back ordered, but that is the one i got
[06:16] <GomezDen> skarr: naw wireless has been tough i think
[06:16] <GomezDen> CDDDDDDD
[06:17] <echos> Anyone have expirence with intel storage matrix raids and ubuntu. Please /msg me
[06:17] <cpk1> Skarr: do you have the cd with an .inf?
[06:18] <GomezDen> Skarr: Your not too stupid for Linux, you just have to make it your b*tch
[06:18] <ArrenLex> Gomez: you're * (it's possessive)
[06:18] <ArrenLex> And Gomez:
[06:18] <minerale> what's the name for the mplayer plugin for firefox?
[06:18] <ArrenLex> !language
[06:18] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:18] <ArrenLex> minerale: mplayerplug-in
[06:18] <nomasteryoda> lol
[06:18] <GomezDen> Are you bashing my english?
[06:18] <ArrenLex> Gomez: yes.
[06:19] <nomasteryoda> http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=intel+a/b/g+wireless+mini-pci+WM3B2915ABGNAX&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&sa=X&oi=froogle&ct=title
[06:19] <nomasteryoda> sorry
[06:19] <cartufer> engrish* :P
[06:19] <nomasteryoda> should have tiny'd it
[06:19] <cpk1> Skarr: if i remember correctly the "installer" program for windows can just be unpacked and you can grab the .inf from it if its in there
[06:19] <minerale> arrenlex: that was not found ....
[06:19] <briguyd> TuxthePenguin84,
[06:19] <briguyd> i got it to work
[06:19] <briguyd> using no password
[06:19] <ArrenLex> minerale: the package is probably called mozilla-mplayer
[06:19] <SurfnKid> got it
[06:20] <GomezDen> ArrenLex: you understood what i said though right?
[06:20] <SurfnKid> wickedpuppy, got it
[06:20] <wickedpuppy> eh you managed to fix it ?
[06:20] <wickedpuppy> how ?
[06:20] <wickedpuppy> can share with us ?
[06:20] <SurfnKid> wickedpuppy, the network status icon stays stuck if i change the alias name in iftab
[06:20] <ArrenLex> Gomez: of course. The point of a language isn't to "make someone understand what you're saying". The point of a language is "to communicate your point correctly, effectively and eloquently."
[06:21] <ArrenLex> Gomez: I assure you if the only point of language was solely to make someone understand your point, we would still be grunting.
[06:21] <nomasteryoda> http://mgalug.org/hardware/wireless this is my small conribution to linux... though that abg card has yet to be listed
[06:21] <SurfnKid> if i rename it just like that and bring the network up, the taskbar will show eth1 no such device, and it wont bring fwd the status window to select/change to the new wlan0 adapter
[06:21] <Skarr> cpk1: sorry i was afk, ill try that thansk
[06:21] <SurfnKid> so...
[06:21] <nomasteryoda> lol
[06:21] <Skarr> cpk1: and once i do that, all i do is install ndiswrapper and in the network options put ndiswrapper and then choose the inf file?
[06:22] <Justin_Watt> i'm having trouble mounting an external hard drive
[06:22] <nomasteryoda> grunting often makes you feel better at least
[06:22] <ArrenLex> nomastery: no argument there.
[06:22] <Skarr> yay
[06:22] <Skarr> im not depressed anymoe
[06:22] <SurfnKid> before i changed it to wlan0 i clicked on the network status window (when eth1 was working) and left the window open, then i changed/renamed/restarted the network settings and when it came back up, i could now choose WLAN0 from it
[06:22] <ArrenLex> Yay prozac!
[06:22] <Justin_Watt> fdisk -l shows: /dev/sda1   *           1       19455   156272256    7  HPFS/NTFS
[06:22] <wickedpuppy> SurfnKid, great :P thanks for the info ...
[06:23] <tuv> why would gkrellm use too much cpu? it gets my pentium M to reach its max. frequency and stay at 75%+ usage !!
[06:23] <nomasteryoda> Skarr, ya it will work.. have this one working with bcmfirmware stuff, but it used to use ndiswrapper with it...
[06:23] <SurfnKid> no probs!
[06:23] <Justin_Watt>  /etc/fstab has this line: /dev/sda1       /media/usb0     ntfs    rw,user,users   1       2
[06:23] <nomasteryoda> Justin_Watt, not rw
[06:23] <SurfnKid> thanks for the help, it actually worked thru iftab, there wasnt anything else to do, even after restarting, it doesnt do anything, unless you choose the adapter
[06:23] <nomasteryoda> not an ntfs
[06:24] <ArrenLex> through *
[06:24] <Justin_Watt> ok... but fdisk -l
[06:24] <Justin_Watt> shows HPFS/NTFS
[06:24] <nomasteryoda> ya
[06:24] <ArrenLex> Justin: is there a problem?
[06:24] <tuv> no one uses gkrellm in ubuntu? how sad!
[06:24] <Justin_Watt> and it was original formated on a windows box
[06:24] <nomasteryoda> you can do r but not rw without modification ... i.e another package to allow unsafe writing to ntfs drives
[06:25] <Justin_Watt> problem is mount -a changes the permission of usb to 500
[06:25] <ArrenLex> Justin_Watt: what permissions are you looking for?
[06:25] <Justin_Watt> i just want to be able to cd into the drive
[06:26] <Justin_Watt> obviously cd usb0 gives permission denies
[06:26] <ArrenLex> Justin_Watt: then change rw,user,users to: rw,user,users,umask=000
[06:26] <nomasteryoda> read permissions on a usb external ntfs drive
[06:26] <ArrenLex> Justin: but I don't know if you'll be able to write on it. I think you have to modify the drivers.
[06:26] <ArrenLex> Justin: "umask" is essentially octal permissions inverted. 777 in chmod = 000 mask.
[06:26] <nomasteryoda> !ntfs
[06:26] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:27] <nomasteryoda> try this link
[06:27] <ArrenLex> Justin: but the line will let you cd to it and read, definitely.
[06:27] <Justin_Watt> ah ha
[06:27] <Justin_Watt> that works
[06:27] <ArrenLex> You're welcome. ^^
[06:27] <Justin_Watt> i will check out the link
[06:28] <Justin_Watt> but at this point, there's no reason that the drive needs to be ntfs
[06:28] <Justin_Watt> i'm going to turn it into a backup drive
[06:28] <cpk1> Skarr: there is a little more to it than that
[06:28] <Justin_Watt> backupPC
[06:28] <Skarr> cpk1: can you tell me?
[06:28] <Skarr> Hey guys why don't anti-smokers like linux?
[06:28] <Skarr> Cause it has tarballs
[06:29] <Skarr> *rimshot*
[06:29] <cpk1> Skarr: i think you need a .sys and .inf and then you install it, and then you add it to your startup if you want it to start everytime at boot
[06:29] <ArrenLex> I'm anti-smoker. I like Linux.
[06:29] <Skarr> So am I
[06:29] <nomasteryoda> lol
[06:29] <Skarr> I was just making a joke...
[06:29] <ArrenLex> I have no idea what you're implying by tarballs, either.
[06:29] <Skarr> You know how those tv comercials always say they fill your lungs with tar
[06:29] <ArrenLex> Yeah?
[06:29] <Skarr> so
[06:29] <Skarr> tar balls.
[06:29] <Skarr> like
[06:29] <tuv> gkrellm? anybody?
[06:29] <Skarr> those archives on linux
[06:29] <ArrenLex> Oh, I see! Because balls are related to lungs. Yes, I get it now.
[06:30] <mempf> lol
[06:30] <sureshot> i see the coralation
[06:30] <Skarr> Har har har
[06:30] <cpk1> tuv: what about it?
[06:30] <unfknblvbl> i have a .ico file and i need to convert it to png
[06:30] <tuv> why would gkrellm use too much cpu? it gets my pentium M to reach its max. frequency and stay at 75%+ usage !!
[06:30] <Skarr> I could make a more politicly incorrect one
[06:30] <nomasteryoda> Justin_Watt, just my 2c, but i would mak either dirve ext2 or ext3 if you plan tot use for backup  on linux
[06:31] <cpk1> Skarr: this should tell you everything you need for ndiswrapper https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[06:31] <nomasteryoda> i have 3 such drives
[06:31] <Skarr> cpk1: thanks yo
[06:31] <tuv> cpk1, why would it use too much cpu? it gets my pentium M to reach its max. frequency and stay at 75%+ usage !!
[06:32] <Skarr> they have wolfenstein et on linux right?
[06:32] <Flannel> Skarr: yes
[06:32] <Skarr> woot
[06:32] <ArrenLex> !tell tuv about repeat
[06:32] <ArrenLex> !tell ArrenLex about alsa
[06:32] <ashaffer> Anybody here run half-life, wow or any other games through the 'crossover' software yet?
[06:32] <Skarr> !tell PoisonedV about how awesome he is
[06:33] <ArrenLex> !tell Bill Gates he sucks
[06:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell Bill Gates he sucks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:33] <sureshot> i keep telling people that if the gaming companies would put out a linux version it would put ms out of busness
[06:33] <tuv> ArrenLex, thanks, although this doesn't solve my problem. trying is what counts, right?
[06:34] <ArrenLex> tuv: well, if we don't know, we won't know the first time you ask it and we won't know the tenth time. You're just flooding the channel. Google it, or use the forums.
[06:34] <ashaffer> MS won't go out of business, they make a trash product and are booming anyways, it's blind allegiance
[06:34] <Justin_Watt> nomasteryoda: i just ran mkfs /dev/sda1 -t ext3
[06:34] <ArrenLex> (22:31:57) Suitcase of Dreams: Garcia: and that's not "too busy".
[06:34] <bluefox83> !WMV
[06:34] <ArrenLex> Oh my god, I've been on IRC too long.
[06:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:34] <ArrenLex> I'm using usernames in my MSN conversations.
[06:34] <tuv> ArrenLex, so are you saying i can repeat my question in the forums?
[06:35] <tuv> ArrenLex, nm, i'm just bored!
[06:35] <ArrenLex> tuv: yes, use the ubuntu forums and make a board.
[06:35] <ArrenLex> !forums
[06:35] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[06:35] <Justin_Watt> nomasteryoda: how does that change fstab? other than the type? do i still need umask, etc?
[06:35] <Flannel> tuv: you can continue to repeat it here, but do it every 15 minutes or whatnot, obviously no one on at the moment knows the answer.  but yeah, start looking elsewhere, while waiting for people here to know
[06:35] <Poe> hay alguien aki?
[06:36] <Flannel> !es
[06:36] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:36] <echos> Anyone had success with Integrated Intel Matrix Storage Technology (RAID) driver for Intel Desktop Boards in Ubuntu?
[06:36] <Poe> #ubuntu-es
[06:36] <Flannel> Poe: /join #ubuntu-es
[06:37] <sicarus> Anyone able to recommend a good WPA 802.11g PCMCIA wireless card with good linux support?
[06:37] <sureshot> netgear i think is pretty good
[06:37] <Flannel> sicarus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[06:37] <cpk1> sicarus: the wiki has a list of what works well, what works and what doesnt work
[06:37] <ashaffer> I searched this a bit, probably just a terrible search since I'm a wee tired here;  What's a good application for burning dvd movies in ubuntu?
[06:37] <sureshot> intell 2200bg
[06:38] <MrKeuner> hi, A full ports scan with nmap shows that ports 42444 and 48820 tcp are open. Do you guys have any idea whhat they are for? thanks.
[06:39] <MrKeuner> and that's localhost with dapper on it
[06:40] <JavaDeveloper> hi, I wanna know where is the php executable located in ubuntu? I am using php5
[06:40] <ArrenLex> ashaffer: you have a random movie file you want to burn to a dvd? Or do you have a DVD image you want to burn to DVD?
[06:40] <Poe> Thanks Flannel
[06:40] <Flannel> JavaDeveloper: "which php5"
[06:41] <ashaffer> I have a random movie file (.avi, .mpeg...etc) that I want to burn to a dvd to play in any standard dvd player
[06:41] <JavaDeveloper> Flannel: somehow I cannot locate that
[06:41] <JavaDeveloper> Flannel: it doesn't return any result to me
[06:41] <ArrenLex> ashaffer: look into dvdauthor
[06:41] <ArrenLex> !dvdauthor
[06:41] <cpk1> ashaffer: i think first it needs to be in mpeg, and then you would need something to burn it as udf
[06:41] <ubotu> dvdauthor: create DVD-Video file system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.11-3 (dapper), package size 133 kB, installed size 356 kB
[06:41] <Flannel> JavaDeveloper: type "php" then hit tab twice, anything come up?
[06:42] <JavaDeveloper> Flannel: nope...where do I type that?
[06:42] <Flannel> JavaDeveloper: a terminal
[06:42] <ArrenLex> ashaffer: also vcdimager
[06:42] <ArrenLex> !vcdimager
[06:42] <ubotu> vcdimager: A VideoCD (VCD) image mastering and ripping tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.23-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 514 kB, installed size 1152 kB
[06:42] <ashaffer> ArrenLex: I assumt that's for vcds only
[06:42] <JavaDeveloper> Flannel: I was trying to find in /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin, no such command
[06:43] <Flannel> JavaDeveloper: Ah, actually.  You probably don't have php5-cli installed, so you don't have command line php.  Why did you need to know the path?
[06:43] <ashaffer> Awesome;  thanks to everyone for the dvd application
[06:44] <JavaDeveloper> Flannel: I am installing SugarCRM osCommerce integration
[06:45] <JavaDeveloper> Flannel: so I go intall php5-cli in synaptic will solve this problem?
[06:45] <Flannel> JavaDeveloper: and, why does it need to know the path?  shouldn't it run through apache?
[06:45] <JavaDeveloper> Flannel: I have no idea, the installation guide said so
[06:45] <Skarr> how do i view the fieltype
[06:45] <Skarr> so that like
[06:45] <Skarr> WolfensteinET appears as WolfensteinET.exe for example
[06:46] <hayden> !fstab
[06:46] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[06:46] <Skarr> on windows, i need it to find the .inf file
[06:46] <Flannel> JavaDeveloper: I... think that's wrong.  since you on't need a command line PHP for apache to use it, and that should go through the apache stuff.  You should double check with them, or whatnot.
[06:46] <jiSh> linux doesnt really need extensions
[06:46] <Brokenstein> can anyone help me mount the sd card in my tungsten e2? i've given up trying to sync the damn thing
[06:46] <jiSh> just right click and look in properties for file type info
[06:46] <Flannel> Skarr: linux doesn't hide extensions either, at least... not to my knwoledge
[06:47] <DigitalNinja> Is there a way to edit the gnome menu
[06:47] <XaXXon> I'm trying to get the CVS package and it seems to be hanging on us.archive.ubuntu.com.. both with apt-get and synaptic
[06:47] <JavaDeveloper> Flannel: it's a side integration, I guess...so...maybe you are right...but then the project has been there for two years so I guess you are pretty sure about it...probably need an upgrade on that to run from apache though
[06:47] <tonyyarusso> DigitalNinja: Yep, it's called "Alacarte menu editor", and is under Accessories.
[06:47] <FarrisG> Can anyone help me figure out which package provides the opengl headers? specifically looking for "/usr/include/GL/gl.h" to build mythtv
[06:47] <Flannel> XaXXon: us archive might be down, remove the us. from your sources, and try again
[06:47] <Skarr> cpk1: which file do i extract
[06:47] <sivik> hi all
[06:47] <Amaranth> !x11proto-gl-dev
[06:47] <ubotu> x11proto-gl-dev: X11 OpenGL extension wire protocol. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.3-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 180 kB
[06:48] <Amaranth> FarrisG: that one
[06:48] <Flannel> JavaDeveloper: nah, I imagine their installation isntructions are just bad
[06:48] <sivik> ok, is there a way to fix the /etc/hosts file without being able to do sudo
[06:48] <DigitalNinja> tonyyarusson: Thanks! Don't know why I didn't see it
[06:48] <Amaranth> sivik: reboot in single-user mode
[06:48] <sivik> Amaranth, how do you do that?
[06:48] <FarrisG> Amaranth: Hmm. I already have that installed, but the file isn't there
[06:48] <Flannel> sivik: reboot, hit escape, at the grub menu (right after the post screen) ad then go to the recovery console
[06:48] <MrKeuner> hi, A full ports scan with nmap shows that ports 42444 and 48820 tcp of a dapper box are open. Do you guys have any idea whhat they are for? thanks.
[06:48] <sivik> and i can fix it from there
[06:49] <Flannel> sivik: right.  you'll be at a root terminal
[06:49] <JavaDeveloper> Flannel: guess so...not user-friendly at all...haha
[06:49] <sivik> Flannel: sweet, i knew there was a way to do it, i just couldn't figure it out
[06:49] <Brokenstein> can anyone help me mount the sd card in my tungsten e2 so i dont have to sync it?
[06:50] <Amaranth> !mesa-common-dev
[06:50] <ubotu> mesa-common-dev: Developer documentation for Mesa. In component main, is optional. Version 6.4.1-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 162 kB, installed size 804 kB
[06:50] <Amaranth> FarrisG: alright, i know it's that one :)
[06:50] <sivik> Brokenstein, must be nice to get your computer to regonize the sd insert
[06:50] <ArrenLex> !tell ArrenLex the meaning of life.
[06:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell ArrenLex the meaning of life. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:50] <ArrenLex> Well crap.
[06:51] <ArrenLex> Does gnome have a utility to automagically mount media you insert, like KDE does?
[06:51] <unfknblvbl> ArrenLex: its 42
[06:51] <sivik> Flannel: ok, that didn't fix it
[06:51] <XaXXon> Flannel: I removed the references to the us archive, but now it seems to have nowhere to go?
[06:51] <Skarr> i still cant find the .inf or .sys files
[06:51] <unfknblvbl> lol
[06:51] <Flannel> XaXXon: just the us.  so, it's "archive.ubuntu.com" instead of "us.archive.ubuntu.com"
[06:51] <XaXXon> Flannel: sorry.  Thank you
[06:52] <unfknblvbl> hitchhikers guide to the galaxy explains why its 42
[06:52] <sivik> ok, what does it mean when it says "sudo: unable to lookup computername via gethostbyname()"?
[06:52] <ArrenLex> I should read that sometime.
[06:52] <Skarr> screw it
[06:52] <jay_> [help]  I am a chinese user, how can i input chinese in Emacs with SCIM input method?
[06:52] <unfknblvbl> forget the book, watch the movie
[06:52] <ArrenLex> I don't watch movies.
[06:53] <sivik> Flannel: how do i go about fixing it?
[06:53] <briguyd> unfknblvbl, no, book's better, the movie's alright, but there's nothing like the book
[06:53] <Flannel> sivik: did you fix your hosts file?  if it gives you that error, you didn't ;)
[06:53] <ArrenLex> #!/bin/sh && kill sdlfsdafjlsdajfa && laugh
[06:53] <Flannel> sivik: pastebin your hosts file
[06:53] <unfknblvbl> sif book
[06:53] <unfknblvbl> the only thing i read is comics
[06:53] <the> hello?
[06:53] <unfknblvbl> or a manual
[06:53] <the> hullo
[06:53] <Flannel> the: howdy
[06:53] <the> im new to ubuntu
[06:53] <the> im on windows new axually
[06:54] <sivik> the: whats the problem?
[06:54] <the> huh?
[06:54] <ArrenLex> Does Gnome have a utility to automagically mount media you insert, like KDE does?
[06:54] <ArrenLex> the: this is the help channel. What do you need help with?
[06:54] <the> sivik... i dint get u
[06:54] <briguyd> ArrenLex, yes
[06:54] <the> ntn
[06:54] <ArrenLex> !tell the about english
[06:54] <sivik> the: do you have a problem or what?
[06:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about english - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:54] <the> i js came to meet ya guys
[06:54] <ArrenLex> Aw.
[06:54] <unfknblvbl> ({)
[06:54] <marcrosoft> every time i login via ssh to a server of mine, it gives a message about ubuntu comes with no warranty, etc... is there a way to change this?
[06:55] <briguyd> the, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:55] <ArrenLex> briguyd: thank you. Now, uh, what is it?
[06:55] <the> thx brig
[06:55] <FarrisG> Amaranth: :) Already got that one, too, and it ain't there :)
[06:55] <briguyd> ArrenLex, no idea, but if you insert an external drive or USB key or something, it automagically mounts it and opens it in the file browser
[06:55] <briguyd> the, no
[06:55] <briguyd> problem*
[06:55] <ArrenLex> brig: alright, thanks.
[06:55] <the> how to u leave this room?
[06:55] <QMario_> Why does Flash not play sound in Mozilla Firefox in Linux?
[06:55] <the>  '/exit' ?
[06:56] <Flannel> the: /part
[06:56] <ArrenLex> QMario: because Flash is currently a trainwreck on Linux.
[06:56] <the> ty
[06:56] <ArrenLex> QMario: do you have alsa-oss installed?
[06:56] <sivik> QMario: try installing the flashplayer-mozilla
[06:56] <ArrenLex> sivik: he already has flash, the problem is it's not playing sound.
[06:56] <sivik> QMario_, there is currently an issue with the flashplugin-nonfree
[06:57] <sivik> ArrenLex, nvm
[06:57] <Flannel> marcrosoft: it's /etc/motd
[06:57] <marcrosoft> Flannel, thanks, ill check it out
[06:57] <XaXXon> Flannel: took a while to get everything updated, but that worked.  Thank you
[06:59] <Leumas> can Ubuntu mount NTFS partitions and write to them??
[06:59] <ArrenLex> Leumas: yes, but it's dangerous.
[06:59] <ArrenLex> !ntfs
[06:59] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:59] <ArrenLex> !fuse
[06:59] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:59] <Leumas> hmm, well that's alright
[06:59] <marcrosoft> Flannel, that worked great, thanks
[07:00] <Leumas> i just got finished formatting my file partitions to FAT32 so i could use XP and Ubuntu
[07:00] <Flannel> Leumas: linux can read NTFS perfectly fine and safely, it's just writing thats dangerous
[07:00] <Leumas> i know
[07:00] <Leumas> but it's kinda useless having a main file partition that i can't seem to write to
[07:01] <ArrenLex> Leumas: advised not to install Linux on a FAT32 partition. It will eventually corrupt the filesystem. Using it as an auxiliary storage drive is great, though.
[07:01] <ArrenLex> Leumas: i.e. make a new FAT32 partition to share files between Linux and Windows.
[07:01] <Leumas> that's what i'm doing. linux on ext3, music and stuff on FAT32, and Windows on NTFS
[07:01] <holzmodem> which tool can generate a textfile with a tree of my folder structure
[07:01] <ArrenLex> Leumas: then you probably don't want to write NTFS, only read.
[07:02] <Leumas> yeah. i was reading something on Digg that said you could write to NTFS though, and i got confused :-S
[07:02] <ArrenLex> Leumas: to mount an NTFS partition read-only, add the following file to your fstab:
[07:02] <tuv> ok.. an update on the gkrellm high cpu usage issue. it only happens with the 686 kernel. when booting the 386 kernel cpu usage doesn't exceed 10% !
[07:02] <ArrenLex> /dev/<device>       <mount folder>          ntfs    ro,users,umask=000           0       0
[07:02] <Leumas> yeah i know about fstab...
[07:02] <Flannel> Leumas: NTFS write support is getting close, that might be what you saw.  Still not completely tested though
[07:02] <ArrenLex> Lemuas: Linux can now write NTFS better than before. But it's still not safe for use.
[07:03] <tuv> another thing about the 686 kernel: it takes a really really long time to pass the "mounting root filesystem" stage. my root is on sata disk
[07:03] <Leumas> so what happens when NTFS writing goes wrong?
[07:03] <ArrenLex> Leumas: the filesystem becomes corrupted.
[07:03] <Leumas> fair enough
[07:04] <tuv> are there any known problems in 686 kernels vs. 386 ones?
[07:04] <Leumas> if we knew about them they'd probably be fixed
[07:04] <Diego> Hello folks. Anyone up for a couple quick questions about Ubuntu?
[07:04] <sivik> Flannel, paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24849
[07:04] <Skarr> i doubt ill ever get this working
[07:05] <Leumas> Skarr: ?
[07:05] <ArrenLex> Skarr: get what working now?
[07:05] <ArrenLex> Diego: ask away! :)
[07:05] <Skarr> the internetz
[07:05] <Madpilot> Diego, just ask, don't ask to ask
[07:05] <ArrenLex> Skarr: what happened to the internets?
[07:05] <ArrenLex> Skarr: if the pipes are clogged, use a billiard ball.
[07:05] <ArrenLex> pipes -> tubes *
[07:06] <Leumas> :D
[07:06] <Diego> Well, I'm new to Linux in general. If I back up my current WinXP files on my iPod as a USB drive, will Ubuntu recognize it?
[07:06] <Skarr> cnk said that one of the installation files you could extract
[07:06] <Skarr> but i dont know which one
[07:06] <ArrenLex> Diego: yes, iPods work with Ubuntu. However, why not just make two partitions?
[07:06] <Diego> Also, will they work normally? Videos, music and images.
[07:06] <Leumas> yes
[07:06] <Diego> I want to get rid of WinXP.
[07:07] <Madpilot> Diego, for some of the sound & video formats you might need to isntall some codecs, but they should all work
[07:07] <Leumas> you may need some codecs and some programs that don't come with ubuntu, but yes
[07:07] <ArrenLex> Diego: for the current state of ipods on Linux check out
[07:07] <ArrenLex> !ipod
[07:07] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[07:07] <Diego> I figure if I quit entirely I'll become better with Linux more quickly.
[07:07] <ArrenLex> Diego: sure, but can you live without games?
[07:07] <Skarr> !d-link
[07:07] <sivik> Flannel, did you look at it?
[07:07] <Leumas> Diego: Assuming you don't go back to XP
[07:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about d-link - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:07] <Skarr> !dlink
[07:07] <Diego> I only play text-based mmorpgs :)
[07:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dlink - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:07] <SoulBlink> I want to delete my old gnome preferences so I can start fresh, what folder(s) do I need to delete?
[07:08] <unfknblvbl> !icons
[07:08] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[07:08] <unfknblvbl> 0.o
[07:09] <Diego> Also, in various sources that mention Linux apps, it usually says something along the lines of "Try the new [x]  app. -get ewn54k5nnkn:gmrigmn"
[07:09] <Skarr> Where can i find the .sys and .inf
[07:09] <Jbirk> Hello
[07:09] <Skarr> *cry*
[07:09] <Jbirk> I cannot seem to get nvidia-glx working
[07:09] <Madpilot> unfknblvbl, have a look in the various .gnome* dotfiles
[07:09] <ArrenLex> Diego: and? o_o
[07:09] <Jbirk> I currently have ubuntu Dapper 6.06.1 LTS with all the updates
[07:09] <Skarr> fucking dlink fuckers
[07:09] <unfknblvbl> Madpilot: i jsut want to convert .ico file into a .png file
[07:09] <ArrenLex> !language
[07:09] <Diego> I don't really know what to do with that, assuming I want one of those apps.
[07:09] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:10] <Madpilot> unfknblvbl, GIMP can probably do that
[07:10] <unfknblvbl> i looked @ gimp
[07:10] <ArrenLex> unfknblvbl: imagemagick?
[07:10] <Jbirk> Computer is Inspiron 8600
[07:10] <unfknblvbl> it doesn't have .ico as one of its loadable files
[07:10] <unfknblvbl> imagemagick..
[07:10] <sivik> can someone tell me whats going on with paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24849
[07:10] <Jbirk> Video Card is NVIDIA Geforce FX Go 5200
[07:10] <Skarr> is a dat file an inf file?
[07:10] <unfknblvbl> i'll look into it
[07:10] <Jbirk> How do I get Open
[07:10] <Madpilot> Diego, Ubuntu uses large online repositories for software; it makes things very easy to install
[07:10] <Jbirk> OpenGL working
[07:10] <bur[n] er> unfknblvbl: rename the .ico to a .bmp and open it :)
[07:10] <unfknblvbl> lol
[07:10] <ArrenLex> unfknbdsfjsldjds: apt-cache search is your friend.
[07:10] <ArrenLex> icoutils - Create and extract MS Windows icons and cursors
[07:10] <unfknblvbl> i'll do
[07:10] <Skarr> I have two .sys files and no inf files
[07:11] <Diego> Yeah, Madpilot, but where would I type that?
[07:11] <Skarr> gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[07:11] <Madpilot> Diego, easiest way to install stuff is thru Applications menu->Add/Remove Apps
[07:11] <ArrenLex> through *
[07:12] <Diego> Hm. Alright, I'll give this thing a go.
[07:12] <Jbirk> yeah, but nothing beats
[07:12] <Jbirk> sudo apt-get install appname
[07:12] <ArrenLex> Diego: what are we downloading?
[07:12] <Skarr> is d-link just too lazy to program a driver for linux?
[07:12] <Madpilot> Diego, if you download the 'desktop' CD image, that includes the LiveCD that you can use without touching your XP install
[07:12] <ArrenLex> Ah.
[07:12] <Jbirk> I remember the Live CD
[07:13] <Jbirk> I tried it once and I guess I clicked install
[07:13] <unfknblvbl> bur[n] er: you bugger it worked
[07:13] <unfknblvbl> thankyou
[07:13] <Jbirk> Haven't seen XP since
[07:13] <load0614> hey, how can I turn off write caching for a usb flash drive?
[07:13] <Thuryn> Hello
[07:13] <Madpilot> Jbirk, no great loss ;)
[07:13] <Thuryn> out of interest
[07:13] <Diego> We're downloading what Madpilot said, ArrenLex. :)
[07:13] <bur[n] er> unfknblvbl: was there ever any doubt? ;)
[07:13] <Jbirk> I only use XP at work
[07:13] <ArrenLex> Diego: yeah, got it.
[07:13] <unfknblvbl> a tiny bit...
[07:13] <bur[n] er> Jbirk: sorry ;)
[07:13] <unfknblvbl> ^.<
[07:13] <Jbirk> ha
[07:13] <ArrenLex> load: if you mean, how do I use a USB drive under Linux so I can just take it out like I do on Windows, the answer is, AFAIK, you can't. Linux treats devices very differently.
[07:14] <Jbirk> And Windows 2003 Server
[07:14] <Jbirk> Oh, and Novell Netware 6.5 SP5
[07:14] <Jbirk> It is yuckey
[07:14] <sivik> what does my /etc/hosts file need to look like to get past the error "sudo: unable to lookup hostname via gethostbyname()"
[07:14] <unfknblvbl> ArrenLex: you can use a usb device the same as you can do on windows
[07:14] <load0614> arrenlex: aside from needing to be unmounted?
[07:14] <bur[n] er> server 2k3 is a bane on my existence... i can't wait till hula is mature enough and i can mass migrate all my clients to use Ubuntu
[07:15] <new-in-ubuntu> hello chanel
[07:15] <Skarr> you know what i jsut realized a few secondsa go
[07:15] <Jbirk> what is hula?
[07:15] <Skarr> the reason im confused isnt cause of linux
[07:15] <ArrenLex> load: no, but that's different enough. Linux devices are included into the file system. You can't just... remove stuff from the file system.
[07:15] <Skarr> its cause of windows
[07:15] <Jbirk> Is that directory services?
[07:15] <ArrenLex> !hello
[07:15] <Skarr> viva le revolution
[07:15] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (dapper), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[07:15] <new-in-ubuntu> I have a quick question, is there an easy way to allow a user to shutdown the computer?
[07:15] <ArrenLex> ...
[07:15] <ArrenLex> That didn't work. Ignore that.
[07:15] <bur[n] er> hula is an exchange like thing
[07:15] <new-in-ubuntu> I have a quick question, is there an easy way to allow a user to shutdown the computer?
[07:15] <ArrenLex> new-in-ubuntu: yes, doesn't gnome offer you the option?
[07:16] <new-in-ubuntu> well yes for the main user
[07:16] <new-in-ubuntu> but all of the other users
[07:16] <new-in-ubuntu> have to frist logout
[07:16] <bur[n] er> new-in-ubuntu: put them in a different group
[07:16] <ArrenLex> new-in-ubuntu: behold the magic of google.
[07:16] <Jbirk> edit shutdown.allow
[07:16] <ArrenLex> http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=linux%20let%20user%20shut%20down%20computer
[07:16] <new-in-ubuntu> thank you
[07:16] <Jbirk> that is the easiest way\
[07:16] <new-in-ubuntu> where might I find the shutdown.allow?
[07:16] <Jbirk> not sure
[07:17] <new-in-ubuntu> please excuse my ignorance
[07:17] <Jbirk> let me find it
[07:17] <new-in-ubuntu> ok
[07:17] <load0614> arrenlex:  I planned on using a udev statement to unmount when the device is pulled.  At least that was my thought.
[07:17] <new-in-ubuntu> thanks for the tip
[07:17] <Jbirk> una momento
[07:17] <minerale> what's the name of the tool that is used to configure gnome's config ?
[07:17] <new-in-ubuntu> I shall look for it
[07:17] <Skarr> which .sys file to i use
[07:17] <Jbirk> in etc
[07:17] <bur[n] er> Jbirk: is there not a "group" that the user could join to be able to shutdown?  or does it only work with the sudo users?
[07:17] <Jbirk> I always remember shutdown.allow
[07:18] <bur[n] er> er... s/sudo group/admin group
[07:18] <Jbirk> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/NonRootShutdown
[07:18] <Jbirk> REad that
[07:18] <THX-1138> gconf-editor   ??
[07:19] <Skarr> cpk1: which sys file do i use
[07:19] <Flannel> sivik: what's your computers name? (the stuff after the @ at the prompt)
[07:20] <new-in-ubuntu> thank you very much Jbirk
[07:20] <new-in-ubuntu> you have been very helpful
[07:20] <sivik> Flannel: sivik-laptop
[07:21] <Flannel> sivik: you need to append that after the localhost stuff,  recheck your paste: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24851
[07:21] <Jbirk> don't make everbody admins though
[07:21] <Jbirk> too riskey
[07:21] <Flannel> sivik: then save, and reboot to your normal user, you should be fine
[07:21] <sivik> Flannel: but thats how it looks and i'm still getting that error
[07:22] <sivik> Flannel: let me try though
[07:22] <Flannel> sivik: er, your pastebin didn't include that
[07:22] <Jbirk> anybody know how to get nvidia-glx orking
[07:22] <Jbirk> I didn't see any nvidia logo
[07:22] <Flannel> sivik: I changed it to include it
[07:22] <sivik> Flannel: sorry, didn't see that
[07:22] <ArrenLex> JBirk: are you using "nvidia" as your driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[07:23] <Jbirk> not sure
[07:24] <Jbirk> what am I looking for in xorg.conf?
[07:24] <new-in-ubuntu> Good Night fellow Penguins, and thank you once again!
[07:24] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: the line:    Driver     "nvidia"
[07:24] <Jbirk> I have
[07:24] <Jbirk> Section "Device"
[07:25] <unfknblvbl> how would i rename all .zxy to .abc ?
[07:25] <unfknblvbl> i tried rename *.zxy *.abc
[07:25] <Jbirk> Identifier "NVIDIA Corporation NV34M [GeForce FX Go5200] "
[07:25] <Jbirk> Driver"nv"
[07:25] <ArrenLex> No!
[07:25] <Jbirk> BUSID ...
[07:25] <ArrenLex> nv != nvidia
[07:25] <morphir> is non free repos for the latest nvidia drivers updated?
[07:25] <ArrenLex> nv is the free, non-3D driver
[07:25] <Jbirk> okay, so just type nvidia
[07:25] <Jbirk> all lower case?
[07:25] <ArrenLex> yes
[07:25] <Flannel> morphir: you mean multiverse?  yes.  ubuntu doesn't have "non-free"
[07:26] <Jbirk> it is in just one place right?
[07:26] <Flannel> morphir: or, actually.. I don't know if theyre updated, whats the newest version?
[07:26] <morphir> Flannel: yeah, are they updated often
[07:26] <morphir> ?
[07:26] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: should be, for a normal setup.
[07:26] <ArrenLex> If you have a dual-head setup or something equally weird then it'd be different.
[07:26] <Flannel> morphir: 1.0.8762+2.6.15.11-5
[07:27] <morphir> Flannel: http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_downloads_linux_display_x86_1.0-9625.html
[07:28] <tkfu> hi
[07:28] <ArrenLex> !hi
[07:28] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to $chan!
[07:28] <ArrenLex> Yay chan.
[07:28] <tkfu> i followed the instructions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:28] <unfknblvbl> !rename
[07:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rename - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:28] <tkfu> to get my ntfs partition mounted
[07:28] <morphir> Flannel: read *# SLI.*
[07:29] <ArrenLex> tkfu: do you want to write to your ntfs partition, or only read from it? Writing is dangerous and can corrupt your NTFS filesystem.
[07:29] <morphir> the new drivers support sli :)
[07:29] <ArrenLex> Reading is safe.
[07:29] <tkfu> and now i get "mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs-fuse'"
[07:29] <tkfu> ArrenLex, i'm aware of the risks
[07:29] <tkfu> i wouldn't particularly cry if i lost my win partition
[07:30] <Jbirk> okay
[07:30] <Jbirk> now I reboot?
[07:30] <morphir> is it me or are the gfx-manufacturers starting to compete supporting linux, after intel announcing their drivers being open source?
[07:31] <morphir> anyways, I like where this are goind
[07:31] <morphir> *going
[07:31] <fuzzy> can some one help me for a sec with my gfx card?
[07:31] <tkfu> so any idea why i'm getting that error message?
[07:31] <tkfu> i did modprobe fuse
[07:32] <firenx> mabye you blew the fuse
[07:32] <Henry_Bean> hi, i'm using the default X.org in edgy, it cames with aiglx enabled? just installing beryl should work?
[07:32] <unfknblvbl> !mv
[07:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <morphir> Henry_Bean: it depends, what gfx card do you have?
[07:33] <Henry_Bean> nvidia GeForce 6200 TurboCache
[07:34] <ArrenLex> tkfu: what is the output of 'cat /proc/filesystems'? Pastebin it.
[07:34] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: reboot, or restart X, yes.
[07:35] <Geoffrey2> if I need to convert a scanned image into a pdf, what's a good application to handle that...will OpenOffice work?
[07:35] <morphir> Henry_Bean: {if intel then aiglx; if nvidia.ati: then xgl;
[07:36] <THX-1138> Henry_Bean - If it works would you let me know?  same GeForce 6200
[07:36] <bur[n] er> Geoffrey2: set up a pdf printer... it's easier in kubuntu
[07:36] <morphir> Henry_Bean: you must use xgl
[07:36] <bur[n] er> THX-1138: AIGLX works with your nvidia?  I had to use XGL
[07:36] <morphir> aiglx dont work with nvidia AFAIK
[07:37] <THX-1138> "" XGL add compiz and it crashes right away.
[07:37] <Henry_Bean> morphir: thanks, do u know why? do u know if they will support them?
[07:37] <bur[n] er> THX-1138: using quinn repos?  it's an issue right now... see yer PM
[07:38] <lowfi> Henry_Bean, ask in #beryl
[07:38] <MrKeuner> tcp        0      0 localhost:42444         *:*                     LISTEN     4613/python what does this do? Do I really need it?
[07:38] <THX-1138> Coo-l
[07:38] <Henry_Bean> lowfi: thanx
[07:38] <morphir> Henry_Bean: bc nvidia have not added support for aiglx in their drivers...however they have with the new beta drivers
[07:38] <bur[n] er> Henry_Bean: because it's a binary driver..  only open source drivers are supported via AIGLX... NVIDIA recently released new drivers, so AIGLX or XGL won't be necessary as beryl will run with straight Nvidia drivers
[07:38] <Geoffrey2> bur[n] er, a pdf printer...would that be in the package manager?
[07:39] <Henry_Bean> thanx a lot, people... i was really getting mad with all names issues xD
[07:39] <bur[n] er> Geoffrey2: i'm really not sure for gnome... i haven't figured it out... i've done it with KDE...  otherwise, Gimp can make pdfs for the time being
[07:39] <THX-1138> THX :)
[07:40] <morphir> Henry_Bean: aiglx are open source(and good)...xgl are propriatary(and evil)
[07:40] <Henry_Bean> lol
[07:41] <THX-1138> Will aiglx affect WINE/Cedega/CodeWeavers and gaming?
[07:41] <bur[n] er> THX-1138: XGL will... but I assume AIGLX isn't even being used by you since you have Nvidia
[07:42] <bur[n] er> THX-1138: best bet is to test it ;)
[07:42] <THX-1138> nvm - did you say it isn't needed with the most recent nvidia binary release.
[07:42] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> people need help installing HP Printer 1410
[07:42] <psylmgym> anyone got a 32 bit chroot to work, so that u can have 64bit firefox and 32 bit open at once?
[07:42] <bur[n] er> THX-1138: XGL really slowed my PC and broke the vino vnc server so I stopped using Xgl
[07:43] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> !HP
[07:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about HP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:43] <morphir> bur[n] er: xgl and aiglx are all actually _good for gaming as I heard...bc they allready have intiated the 3D-drivers..
[07:43] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> !Printer
[07:43] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:43] <morphir> bur[n] er: in other words, it speeds up game init
[07:44] <bur[n] er> morphir: it effectively killed my Call of Duty and War3 that i use via wine and they use OpenGL
[07:44] <ArrenLex> Punjabi: http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-PSC_1410
[07:44] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> hey Arren, thanks
[07:44] <THX-1138> Ya-ay! (Oo-ps just trashed a serious image.)
[07:44] <morphir> yeah, but who said wine where any stable?
[07:44] <morphir> wine sucks
[07:44] <bur[n] er> morphir: wtf man... wine works in X... XGL sucks ;)
[07:44] <ArrenLex> morphir: wine does not "suck". Wine is "beta software".
[07:45] <psylmgym> hey dont bad mouth wine, i got it to run diable 2
[07:45] <psylmgym> thats pure gold imo
[07:45] <psylmgym> =P
[07:45] <bur[n] er> and wine kicks ass... i can play a few games, run a few key windows apps (utorrent)
[07:45] <THX-1138> morphir - It has a way to go but at least it is a path without Windows. - heh
[07:45] <morphir> wine sucks bc its emulate windows, and native is totally the way to go(like iD sofware does)
[07:45] <psylmgym> im thinking about setting it up for dvdshrink, and decrypt
[07:45] <bur[n] er> and wine allows picasa for linux (however a bad hack it is, at least i have picture management i like)
[07:46] <ArrenLex> morhpir: wine exists for when you need applications that don't have any native versions. Are you saying having options is... bad?
[07:46] <bur[n] er> morphir: in a perfect world... however, most things I want to play are made for windows... esp. games
[07:46] <THX-1138> It runs WoW and is stable, fonts are troublesome though.
[07:46] <bsdfox> wow is the worst
[07:46] <psylmgym> hahah
[07:47] <ArrenLex> Why are we all insulting random things?
[07:47] <ArrenLex> Oxygen is the worst.
[07:47] <First|Bleh> !offtopic
[07:47] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:47] <ArrenLex> I hate breathing. It's for losers.
[07:47] <morphir> ArrenLex: no, but wine make certain *nix users think that linux sucks for gaming AND OpenGL inclusive
[07:47] <psylmgym> does eve work in wine?
[07:47] <THX-1138> Disable VBO and it becomes usable.
[07:47] <First|Bleh> eve works in cedega's latest version.
[07:47] <ArrenLex> morphir: absolutely not. Wine makes sure that certain *nix users think that Linux can actually run SOME games. At all.
[07:47] <Jbirk> W00t!
[07:47] <ArrenLex> And that certain *nix users can run programs they need.
[07:47] <Jbirk> I have had my best Ubuntu day ever
[07:47] <ArrenLex> Yay woot?
[07:48] <Jbirk> Not only is Ubuntu the first distro to do 2D graphics for me
[07:48] <archetypo> Anyone know Apache config? http://pastie.caboo.se/14914    i can't figure out what's wrong with this.
[07:48] <Jbirk> Today, I got nvidia-glx working
[07:48] <Jbirk> It is sweet
[07:48] <ArrenLex> You're welcome. :P
[07:48] <Jbirk> Screen savers are smooth
[07:48] <Jbirk> thanks so much
[07:48] <Jbirk> It runs my screen saver about 400x faster
[07:48] <Jbirk> and it is smooth
[07:48] <Jbirk> and bright now
[07:48] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: I envy you. I only have 2D.
[07:48] <Jbirk> what games can I run
[07:48] <psylmgym> u know what has been extermly difficult to get working properly?  xgl+compiz, with 64bit dapper and an ati card
[07:49] <Jbirk> You should install 3D
[07:49] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: trust me, I've tried. =P It's not possible for me.
[07:49] <First|Bleh> Congratulations. You can play solitaire!
[07:49] <Jbirk> whyu not buy a card
[07:49] <ArrenLex> YAY
[07:49] <Jbirk> why not buy a different video card
[07:49] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: because I don't have money! xD
[07:49] <morphir> bur[n] er ArrenLex : you want to demand native games and software(even if its commercial), encourage ID-software and John Carmac for what they do!
[07:49] <Jbirk> My Linux philosophy has been to replace hardware that won't work
[07:49] <psylmgym> u can get an agp 5200 for like 25 dolalrs
[07:49] <Jbirk> I got a different wireless card
[07:49] <Jbirk> Exactly
[07:49] <First|Bleh> I just bought an ati x1800xt for my 'gaming pc' until the DX10 cards come out.
[07:49] <Jbirk> I have an FX Go
[07:50] <Jbirk> Piece of junk
[07:50] <bur[n] er> morphir: i hate ID software games ;)  and i'm not a big gamer... I play Warcraft 3 and that's it
[07:50] <Jbirk> Came with the laptop in 2003
[07:50] <ArrenLex> morphir: I don't demand anything! I want the FOSS community to do everything it can to be a reasonable alternative.
[07:50] <First|Bleh> this PC has a geforce 6800 because linux + nvidia = better than linux + ati
[07:50] <psylmgym> d3d 10 = the lame
[07:50] <psylmgym> =P
[07:50] <Jbirk> Agreed
[07:50] <Jbirk> stay clear of ATI
[07:50] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: Trust me, if I could, I'd by an nvidia card.
[07:50] <First|Bleh> ATI is much better for windows..but not linux.
[07:50] <ArrenLex> Oh god. ATI is Satan himself.
[07:50] <Jbirk> Hell even in Windows ATI drivers suck
[07:50] <Jbirk> It is a bitch to download drivers from ATI's website
[07:50] <First|Bleh> Their cards run a bit hotter than nvidia
[07:50] <Jbirk> Honestly, that place is convoluted
[07:50] <Jbirk> They have radeons
[07:50] <First|Bleh> But overall they perform better
[07:51] <psylmgym> maybe AMD will kick their asses into gear?
[07:51] <Jbirk> radeon all-in-wonders
[07:51] <Jbirk> all-in-wonder radeons...
[07:51] <morphir> ArrenLex: you dont demand anything from the FLOSS community, you demand from the propriatary vendors
[07:51] <Jbirk> I love Nvidia
[07:51] <ArrenLex> Morphir: I don't demand ANYTHING. From ANYONE.
[07:51] <Jbirk> My desktop has a 7600GT
[07:51] <Jbirk> I am buying a 7300GT for another computer that is going to run ubuntu
[07:51] <morphir> ArrenLex: then use windows
[07:51] <ArrenLex> It is not my place to demand anything. It is my place to appreciate what is good, try to fix what is bad, and help any way I can.
[07:51] <Jbirk> can you name any game that takes opengl?
[07:51] <Jbirk> Oh, and videos quit crashing now
[07:52] <ArrenLex> morphir: no. I hate Windows. Why would I use it?
[07:52] <bur[n] er> morphir: ArrenLex take it elsewhere ;)
[07:52] <clearzen> will someone help me with a problem i'm having with ssh?
[07:52] <Jbirk> honestly, I can play 2 Xvid at the same time in VLC
[07:52] <THX-1138> Oo-h "Trusted computing" and ati and a cpu manufacturer. got a feeling we ain't seen anything yet. A round of DRM for everyone. muhaha
[07:52] <psylmgym> i use windows as little as possible
[07:52] <bur[n] er> clearzen: ask the problem
[07:52] <Jbirk> no more crash
[07:52] <brendonjt> hey all a question, if i copy the .deb files from /etc/cache/apt to say a cd if i need to reinstall
[07:52] <brendonjt>  and do a apt-get dist-update will it grab  the files from there  or download them
[07:52] <First|Bleh> Oh, I got saga of ryzom running perfectly in wine on ubuntu..just in case anyone has actually ever heard of that game.
[07:52] <psylmgym> lol, ive heard of it
[07:52] <psylmgym> was it worth the trouble?
[07:53] <clearzen> I'm getting this error when I log on to a computer I know to be trusted after I changed the default computer for logon on the network:     RSA host key for 129.123.208.4 has changed and you have requested strict checking.
[07:53] <clearzen> Host key verification failed.
[07:53] <ArrenLex> brendonjt: why would you do that? It's less hacky to just run dpkg -i <file> on the .deb
[07:53] <morphir> ArrenLex: you totally dont hear what I say man! I agree with you in the FLOSS philosphy, but with commercial software I DEMAND!!
[07:53] <First|Bleh> Well, it's a good game. But then I realized I'm just bored of MMO's in general.
[07:53] <bur[n] er> brendonjt: as long as a cd is in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:53] <psylmgym> yea i hear that!
[07:53] <First|Bleh> I've found myself going back to consoles and even picking up a DS and PSP.
[07:53] <psylmgym> i love me ds
[07:53] <ArrenLex> morphir: they are free to make whatever software they want. It is their right, and it is your right not to use it. You have no place in demanding anything. They can do what they want.
[07:53] <brendonjt> ArrenLex, :what if i copy the files back to the /etc/cache/apt folder  is what i mean
[07:53] <psylmgym> i messed around with linuxds.... its got a a ways to go
[07:54] <morphir> ArrenLex: if I buy software, I demand they make it work! enough said!
[07:54] <First|Bleh> There's a lot of fabulous games coming out for both the DS and PSP over the next few months. It makes it impossible (for me) to choose just one.
[07:54] <bur[n] er> brendonjt: awwwww... i'm not sure :)  try it and report back
[07:54] <ztg> anyone know what Bad page state at prep_new_page (in process 'sh', page c1758500) means in /var/log/syslog
[07:54] <sivik> has anyone gotten the newest version of vlc to work (the one that supports wmv3)?
[07:54] <First|Bleh> They're releasing two new Tales of games..one for each hand held..both different games. It's like..wtf );
[07:54] <psylmgym> there prolly is more worth per dollar available in the DS
[07:54] <First|Bleh> Yes, there is
[07:54] <psylmgym> but the psp is haute
[07:54] <First|Bleh> The PSP is really cheap now though
[07:55] <ArrenLex> morphir: you are free to both buy and refuse to buy that software. By your logic I could buy a toy car and demand it fly.
[07:55] <psylmgym> well
[07:55] <psylmgym> whats it now/?
[07:55] <psylmgym> thats nice
[07:55] <First|Bleh> The guy played it once on the plane back from iraq
[07:55] <First|Bleh> And never touched it again
[07:55] <clearzen> does anyone know why the following error would occur on a ssh connection:   RSA host key for 192.168.0.1 has changed and you have requested strict checking.
[07:55] <clearzen> Host key verification failed.
[07:55] <psylmgym> id buy it just to use the divx capabilities
[07:55] <sivik> clearzen: go and clear the RSA host key file
[07:55] <bur[n] er> clearzen: rm ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[07:55] <psylmgym> for 100
[07:55] <ArrenLex> clearzen: if you trust the computer you're connecting to, clear out your ~/.ssh folder. Their certificate changed.
[07:55] <clearzen> I did
[07:56] <morphir> ArrenLex: If open source sofware dont work, I dont demand it work, instead I'am free to contribute code fixes and bugreports, or move on with my life :D
[07:56] <First|Bleh> Check out ebay..i saw one going for $125 and it had 8 games, a hard case, soft carrying case, etc.
[07:56] <lewix> hi guys
[07:56] <sivik> clearzen, apparently not
[07:56] <lewix> I need a good text editor
[07:56] <First|Bleh> Oh, and a 1 gig stick
[07:56] <lewix> just as microsoft word
[07:56] <clearzen> I'll try again
[07:56] <lewix> on gnome
[07:56] <sivik> lewis: text based or gui?
[07:56] <psylmgym> im making sure i have enough for wii
[07:56] <sivik> lewix: gedit
[07:56] <psylmgym> and im saving monney for 2 vacations.. CO, and japan
[07:56] <bur[n] er> clearzen: try it with a "sudo rv /home/username/.ssh/known_hosts"
[07:56] <psylmgym> =P
[07:56] <lewix> just as MICROSOFT WORD
[07:56] <sivik> lewix: if you want one like word but not work, install openoffice
[07:56] <bur[n] er> lewix: openoffice?
[07:56] <ArrenLex> lewix: openoffice.org-writer
[07:56] <First|Bleh> I'm doing some sports trading to get the money quick. It's easy money. Last year I started with $25 and bought my plasma tv a month later off my winnings.
[07:56] <morphir> ArrenLex: your analogy sucks.(with toys-->compared with software?)
[07:57] <lewix> alright
[07:57] <lewix> thanks
[07:57] <bur[n] er> lewix: abiword is not quite as full featured, but it's faster :)
[07:57] <lewix> how do i install it
[07:57] <psylmgym> what do u mean trading?
[07:57] <bur[n] er> lewix: it's installed
[07:57] <First|Bleh> You basically bet on who's going to win or lose a game.
[07:57] <ArrenLex> morphir: the object doesn't matter. The point is the same. You're buying SOMETHING knowing full well it won't do what you want it to do, and then DEMANDING that it does.
[07:57] <lewix> do what do i do
[07:57] <lewix> so*
[07:57] <bur[n] er> lewix: applications -> office -> openoffice.org word processor
[07:57] <bur[n] er> lewix: and explore your menus ;)
[07:57] <sivik> lewix, go into terminal and type oowriter
[07:58] <psylmgym> oh oh, gamblin
[07:58] <bur[n] er> sivik: dont' tell newbies to open a term ;)
[07:58] <psylmgym> football spreads?
[07:58] <morphir> ArrenLex: ok, then expect would be a better word of choice
[07:58] <sivik> bur[n] er, sorry, thats how i learned to do stuff
[07:58] <First|Bleh> eh, sometimes. i'm not too keen on football.
[07:58] <lewix> bur[n] er, cant find it
[07:58] <bsdfox> how can I get a winxp box to automatically reconnect a network drive (ubuntu samba share) on boot? I always have to enter the password..
[07:58] <ArrenLex> choice of word? :P
[07:58] <lewix> sivik, it doenst work
[07:58] <bur[n] er> lewix: using ubuntu? or xubuntu or kubuntu?
[07:58] <clearzen> Thank you. I had opened that file with nano and deleted the contents. Not the file itself
[07:58] <ArrenLex> lewix: what happens if you type 'oowriter' in a terminal?
[07:58] <sivik> lewix, then you probably don't have it installed
[07:58] <lewix> kubuntu
[07:58] <lewix> gnome
[07:58] <morphir> ArrenLex: yeah, what evah1
[07:58] <psylmgym> ah, i know football... if i was gonna bet it would be on football... but i always get screwed when i bet
[07:58] <clearzen> That worked great for me
[07:58] <First|Bleh> ;P
[07:59] <bur[n] er> lewix: that's backwards... is it kubuntu with kde or ubuntu with gnome?
[07:59] <First|Bleh> It takes research
[07:59] <lewix> kubuntu with gnome
[07:59] <psylmgym> except for the first time i went horse gambling
[07:59] <bur[n] er> lewix: try "kword" from a term
[07:59] <psylmgym> lol
[07:59] <bur[n] er> lewix: you're on crack... there is no option... kubuntu with gnome...
[07:59] <ArrenLex> burner: OOo is installed by default on kubuntu, I believe.
[07:59] <Geoffrey2> bur[n] er, thanks for the suggestion about the pdf printer, I just got it installed
[07:59] <psylmgym> i research... its just freak things always screw me over
[07:59] <lewix> lol
[07:59] <bur[n] er> lewix: if you started with kubuntu but apt-get installed gnome... try "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[07:59] <Madpilot> psylmgym, gambling chat to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[07:59] <psylmgym> lol
[07:59] <lewix> bur[n] er, well during the boot loading I see kubuntu
[07:59] <bur[n] er> Geoffrey2: via package???  how'd you do it?  i wanna konw!
[08:00] <ArrenLex> LEWIX: RUN oowriter AND TELL US WHAT HAPPENS, BEFORE YOU TAKE THE RANDOM CRAZY ADVICE.
[08:00] <lewix> command no found
[08:00] <Hoxzer> what couses cp to skip a directory?
[08:00] <ArrenLex> lewix: then do this: apt-get install openoffice.org-writer
[08:00] <bur[n] er> lewix: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:00] <Hoxzer> "cp: skipping directory"
[08:00] <ArrenLex> burner: won't that cause him to install gnome? If he's on kubuntu I assume he doesn't want gnome.
[08:01] <bur[n] er> ArrenLex: he says he uses gnome ;)
[08:01] <ArrenLex> Hoxzer: if you want to copy a directory, use "cp -r" (recurse)
[08:01] <bur[n] er> ArrenLex: might as well have the whole thing :)
[08:01] <ArrenLex> burner: I don't think he knows what he's talking about at this point.
[08:01] <Hoxzer> ArrenLex: :)
[08:01] <lewix> ArrenLex, it's installing
[08:01] <lewix> i have to wait
[08:01] <Geoffrey2> bur[n] er, the instructions are here.... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188860&highlight=pdf+printer
[08:01] <bur[n] er> lewix: in the meantime, you probably have "kword"
[08:02] <lewix> so how come I see kubuntu during the boot loading and im using gnome
[08:02] <ArrenLex> burner thinks it's a good idea because burner runs gnome. Arren Lex doesn't run gnome and thinks it's a terrible idea.
[08:02] <bur[n] er> lewix: "alt+f2" "kword" and see if it loads
[08:02] <ArrenLex> lewix: Are you sure you're using gnome?
[08:02] <lewix> command no found
[08:02] <lewix> im positif
[08:02] <clearzen> Which transfer program is faster scp or rsync?
[08:02] <ArrenLex> lewix: then you did something weird.
[08:02] <Madpilot> lewix, you don't have either kword or ooowriter? What?
[08:02] <lewix> lol
[08:02] <lewix> I have both
[08:02] <bur[n] er> Geoffrey2: thanks!
[08:02] <lewix> gnome and kde
[08:03] <ArrenLex> lewix: why?
[08:03] <lewix> i don't know
[08:03] <lewix>  i don't get it
[08:03] <lewix> i thought it was normal till today
[08:03] <ArrenLex> lewix: which do you like better?
[08:03] <lewix> :)
[08:03] <lewix> gnome
[08:03] <lewix> less applications
[08:03] <irc-mode> 
[08:03] <ArrenLex> PFT.
[08:03] <ArrenLex> You can always install kde without the applications.
[08:04] <ArrenLex> The fact that the ubuntu guys stuff them in there is not kde's fault.
[08:04] <ztg> anyone know what "Bad page state at prep_new_page (in process 'sh', page c1758500)" means in /var/log/syslog my system keeps locking up and I'm wondering if it's a hardware failure
[08:04] <ArrenLex> Did you just recently install ubuntu? Because if I were you I would reinstall it.
[08:04] <lewix> lol i installed it a while ago
[08:04] <lewix> at first it was ubuntu then it became kubuntu
[08:04] <lewix> dont remenber how tough
[08:04] <ArrenLex> The hell? xD
[08:04] <lewix> but i still have kde and gnome
[08:04] <ArrenLex> You have a transvestite install, lewix.
[08:05] <bur[n] er> lewix: try that "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"  that ought to get any missing packages... the boot screen will still say kubuntu, but no worries, you can pick gnome at the login screen
[08:05] <keebler> Sup bur[n] er. :)
[08:05] <lewix> bur[n] er, i can already pick up gnome
[08:05] <ArrenLex> ...ubotu left.
[08:05] <ArrenLex> !scream
[08:05] <Adept2point0> are there any particular audio/video drivers I need to install to 1) play mp3s and videos and 2) make my resolution higher than 1024x768?
[08:05] <ArrenLex> We're so bad even the bot can't take us anymore.
[08:06] <keebler> Does anyone know where I can obtain the 256bit USPLASH program?
[08:06] <Kode> Does Ubuntu have a software raid on the live cd?
[08:07] <bur[n] er> lewix: even still.. you don't have all the ubuntu packages that make gnome really work well... get the "ubuntu-desktop" package when you can!
[08:07] <lewix> alright
[08:07] <Jbirk> You know the restricted stuff is the best
[08:07] <lewix> what do i have to type then
[08:07] <Jbirk> last thing I need is a PDF maker
[08:08] <Kode> Any one know?
[08:08] <First|Bleh> hmm..what's that trigger again..
[08:08] <bur[n] er> lewix: 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' from a term
[08:08] <Jbirk> any idea how to make a PDF from Linux?
[08:08] <First|Bleh> !restrictedformats
[08:08] <Madpilot> lewix, install ubuntu-desktop - either thru apt-get or Synaptic
[08:08] <lewix> isnt it supposed to updates the ubuntu-desktop everytime that i say so
[08:08] <bur[n] er> Jbirk: scroll up for a link from Geoffrey2
[08:08] <First|Bleh> Guess not
[08:08] <zoredache> ps2pdf Jbirk
[08:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:08] <First|Bleh> !restricted
[08:08] <zoredache> install ghostscript
[08:08] <Madpilot> Jbirk, lots of ways. OOo will export PDF
[08:08] <bur[n] er> lewix: ?  not sure what you mean
[08:08] <bur[n] er> Jbirk: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188860&highlight=pdf+printer
[08:08] <Madpilot> lewix, it can't update stuff that isn't installed
[08:08] <Jbirk> I have OO
[08:08] <Jbirk> it is awsome
[08:08] <Jbirk> I also have printing working
[08:09] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: just click the pdf button on the toolbar then.
[08:09] <lewix> oh true
[08:09] <Jbirk> thanks
[08:09] <lewix> anyway i did it
[08:09] <lewix> thanks
[08:09] <Madpilot> !enter
[08:09] <bur[n] er> lewix: you're welcome
[08:09] <Jbirk> This whole Linux thing keeps getting easier
[08:09] <bur[n] er> lewix: to change yer bootsplash:  http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=20060820133641831
[08:09] <lewix> it's alright
[08:09] <lewix> unless i can put a picture instead
[08:10] <clearzen> so, if you are logged in to a ssh session does it automaticallyencrypt your data transfer with programs like rsync ?
[08:11] <TeePOG> morning all
[08:11] <Hoxzer> TeePOG: :) morning
[08:11] <Jbirk> CD Burning works too
[08:11] <Hoxzer> Hmm
[08:12] <Jbirk> It has a really cool Nvidia logo
[08:12] <ArrenLex> It's midnight here.
[08:12] <TeePOG> hi Hoxzer :-] 
[08:12] <Jbirk> what is that about?
[08:12] <Jbirk> It is like a splash screen before the Ubuntu login
[08:12] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: I remember that logo. It annoyed the bajeesus out of me so I turned it off.
[08:12] <clearzen> ArrenLex: it's midnight here too
[08:12] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: the line is "Option" "no_logo" "true" I believe.
[08:12] <Jbirk> I don't mind it
[08:12] <keebler> Does anyone know where I can obtain the 256bit USPLASH program?
[08:12] <Jbirk> it is cool
[08:12] <ArrenLex> But don't quote me on that. Google it if you get annoyed.
[08:12] <Jbirk> is that in the xorg.conf?
[08:12] <ArrenLex> Yes. In the device section, same place you put nvidia.
[08:13] <Jbirk> Oh
[08:13] <ArrenLex> What's with ubotu today?
[08:13] <Jbirk> I don't mind
[08:13] <Jbirk> It shows nvidia supports linux
[08:13] <thenetduck> When I install programs, It doesnt show up in my applications.. does anyone know how to fix this?
[08:13] <ArrenLex> Okay. xD
[08:13] <Jbirk> why is it that Nvidia Supports linux but ATI doesn't?
[08:13] <thenetduck> or why this is happening
[08:13] <Madpilot> thenetduck, some apps don't have menu entries
[08:13] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: because Linux is not a significant share of the video card market.
[08:13] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: makes business sense.
[08:13] <Jbirk> Is that an official driver from nVidia
[08:13] <thenetduck> Madpilot... how ... is there a way to make them have menu entries?
[08:13] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: yes, the nvidia driver is official.
[08:14] <Jbirk> Well it is awsome
[08:14] <indref> Sweet, I'm in :)
[08:14] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: there's an official ATI driver too. It is the embodiment of crap.
[08:14] <thenetduck> Madpilot... sorry that was a typo i ment oh
[08:14] <ArrenLex> If crap was a deity, then the ATI driver would be what the followers of crap would draw in their church windows.
[08:14] <clearzen> It might be a stupid question but is data always encrypted with ssh. If you use scp or rsync to transfer data is it still encrypted??
[08:14] <Jbirk> Why do you say it is the epiphany of crap?
[08:14] <indref> 'Yeah, my nVidia runs pretty nice on my craptop.
[08:14] <Madpilot> thenetduck, for gui apps that don't have them, sure. Some apps are designed to run only in terminal, though.
[08:14] <Jbirk> haha
[08:14] <Jbirk> my craptop has 2 GB ram
[08:14] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: because it doesn't work!
[08:14] <Jbirk> that sucks
[08:14] <Jbirk> Nvidia is really Linux friendly
[08:15] <indref> Jbirk, I hate you :D
[08:15] <Jbirk> I paid for it
[08:15] <Jbirk> It was about $400
[08:15] <Jbirk> for the memory upgrade I did
[08:15] <indref> Jesus tits, mine was $500
[08:15] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: if I install the official 3D ati driver, my glxgears is -- wait for it -- 80 fps. And it skips during rendering too. And on top of that, it breaks my xvideo! It causes random lockups.
[08:15] <ArrenLex> CRAP.
[08:15] <thenetduck> Madpilot, is there a way to get a program like Dia to get displayed??
[08:15] <indref> For the whole system :|
[08:15] <Jbirk> what is xvideo?
[08:15] <indref> I run celestia just fine.
[08:15] <thenetduck> Madpilot because thats the one and its a GUI app...
[08:15] <Madpilot> thenetduck, yes - I'm surprised it's not, actually.
[08:16] <Jbirk> My craptop used to lockup when I would accidentally play a video more than once
[08:16] <ArrenLex> xvideo accelerates video output. Like when you play a movie. It's an overlay rendered by hardware, so your software doesn't actually have to render the movie.
[08:16] <Jbirk> I would dobule click and it would lockup
[08:16] <Madpilot> thenetduck, Applications->Accessories->Alacarte Menu Editor
[08:16] <Jbirk> if I clicked too many times
[08:16] <indref> Heaven forbid you do that Jbirk.
[08:16] <Jbirk> I understand that
[08:16] <Jbirk> Well it used to crap out on me
[08:16] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: that's why if you try to take a screenshot of a playing movie using print screen and then paste it into paint, you just get a blank square.
[08:16] <thenetduck> Madpilot ok
[08:16] <Jbirk> Linux was still running
[08:16] <Jbirk> I could ssh in
[08:16] <Jbirk> but nothing on the screen would ever change
[08:16] <indref> I have a small glitch with my touchpad.
[08:16] <thenetduck> Madpilot is that the same as right clicking "edit menu" ?
[08:16] <bur[n] er> !enter
[08:16] <indref> Damn thing freezes up a little sometimes.
[08:16] <Jbirk> I could hit ctrl alt backspace
[08:17] <Jbirk> kill xorg
[08:17] <ArrenLex> burner: I think ubotu abandoned us again.
[08:17] <Jbirk> nothing but a reboot would revive it
[08:17] <Madpilot> thenetduck, yeah, it is
[08:17] <bur[n] er> ArrenLex: i see that :\  oh well
[08:17] <Jbirk> now, it doesn't crash after nvidia-glx
[08:17] <thenetduck> ok
[08:17] <Jbirk> I know Arren
[08:17] <ArrenLex> *robot voice* Hi! Welcome to $chan!
[08:17] <Geoffrey2> lesse...USB Scanner...should it be auto-detected, or would I likely need to install something?
[08:17] <indref> I need a 3D card test program
[08:17] <Madpilot> thenetduck, just put 'dia' in the command box
[08:17] <Jbirk> I have seen that blank square before
[08:17] <Overand> indref: glxgears
[08:17] <indref> I want to see if my card is doing what it should, any suggestions?
[08:17] <Jbirk> what is glxgears?
[08:17] <Jbirk> run a screensaver
[08:18] <bur[n] er> Geoffrey2: try it :)  mine worked with hpijs package i think
[08:18] <Madpilot> Geoffrey2, should be auto-detected - start XSane, see if it finds it
[08:18] <ArrenLex> glxgears is a simple 3D application used as a troubleshooter.
[08:18] <ArrenLex> Try it. In the terminal, enter 'glxgears'.
[08:18] <indref> Hmm, they all fine okish, kinda chuggy, a little.
[08:18] <thenetduck> Madpilot .. ok I guess that would be the easiest solution?
[08:18] <Jbirk> any good linux game?
[08:18] <indref> So I should just glxgears
[08:18] <Jbirk> that is actually fun
[08:18] <Jbirk> like tux racing or something?
[08:18] <Jbirk> I want to play that one of these days
[08:18] <Madpilot> thenetduck, it is - but check bugs.ubuntu.com too, see if anyone's filed a 'dia doesn't have a menu entry' bug yet
[08:19] <thenetduck> ok
[08:19] <thenetduck> because I had used dia before and it always showed up in the menu
[08:19] <indref> Hmm.
[08:19] <indref> Chuggy, but it runs.
[08:20] <indref> Chews up 100% of CPU though :|
[08:20] <indref> Is that good?
[08:20] <ArrenLex> indref, gee, uh, no? xD
[08:20] <ArrenLex> indref: run glxheads from the terminal and paste back what it tells you the 3D driver is.
[08:20] <indref> Yah, I was waiting for that.
[08:20] <ArrenLex> Paste the output of GL_RENDERER
[08:20] <ArrenLex> Note that that's heads, not gears.
[08:21] <indref> glxheads: exercise multiple GLX connections (any key = exit)
[08:21] <indref> Usage:
[08:21] <indref>   glxheads xdisplayname ...
[08:21] <indref> Example:
[08:21] <indref>   glxheads :0 mars:0 venus:1
[08:21] <indref> Name: :0
[08:21] <indref>   Display:     0x805e340
[08:21] <ArrenLex> !pastebin
[08:21] <indref>   Window:      0x3800002
[08:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:21] <indref>   Context:     0x807d408
[08:21] <ArrenLex> I asked for one line!!
[08:21] <indref>   GL_VERSION:  1.5.3 NVIDIA 71.74
[08:21] <ArrenLex> ONE LINE
[08:21] <Madpilot> indref, I'll unmute you in a minute or two
[08:21] <ArrenLex> Whoa, Madpilot is an admin? o_o
[08:21] <matahari> hi
[08:21] <Madpilot> ArrenLex, ops here lurk. It makes it more fun. ;)
[08:22] <matahari> where can i download the beta for edgy eft?
[08:22] <ArrenLex> *whimper* I've been a good boy!
[08:23] <usli> guys
[08:23] <Madpilot> indref, you should be OK now - next time, use a pastebin!
[08:23] <usli> i need help to partition in ubuntu
[08:23] <indref> What's pastebin?
[08:23] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[08:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:23] <Madpilot> that ^^^
[08:23] <usli> how to make a partition in ubuntu?
[08:23] <ArrenLex> @matahari: indref: run glxheads from the terminal and paste
[08:24] <ArrenLex> Whoa, wrong paste.
[08:24] <indref> And uh, no hard feelings on the ban/mute, I can see that was my fault.
[08:24] <ArrenLex> @matahari: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop
[08:24] <ArrenLex> DAMMIT
[08:24] <ArrenLex> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/knot3
[08:24] <ArrenLex> Jeez!
[08:24] <ArrenLex> Sorry, that last link.
[08:24] <kihai> usli: use fdisk or qtparted or gparted.
[08:24] <matahari> and which kernel does it use?
[08:24] <indref> Which line, one line, were you after ArrenLex
[08:24] <usli> ??
[08:24] <usli> kihai: no idea what are those
[08:25] <ArrenLex> (00:20:42) ArrenLex: Paste the output of GL_RENDERER
[08:25] <ArrenLex> As in, the line GL_RENDERER
[08:25] <indref> Hey, another noob, hello usli .
[08:25] <kihai> usli: Those are programs you can use to make partitions in ubuntu
[08:25] <usli> oh....
[08:25] <indref> GL_VENDOR:   NVIDIA Corporation
[08:25] <ArrenLex> Try again. xD
[08:25] <indref> Hah, one line, so hah.
[08:25] <usli> kihai: thanks
[08:25] <ArrenLex> Yeah, it's great, but it's the wrong line.
[08:25] <ArrenLex> Anyway, it's enough. It seems you have the official drivers installed.
[08:26] <ArrenLex> God knows why your glxgears is so slow.
[08:26] <bimberi> matahari: 2.6.17
[08:26] <indref> GL_RENDERER: GeForce2 MX/AGP/SSE
[08:26] <ArrenLex> Yeah, it should be fine. Weird.
[08:26] <indref> Heh, render and vender are only one letter off.
[08:26] <ArrenLex> Yes, but vendor and renderer are not. :P
[08:26] <matahari> bimberi: with support for JMicron controllers?
[08:26] <Madpilot> indref, except that it's 'vendor', with an o ;)
[08:26] <indref> I'm only running a very meager machine.
[08:26] <bimberi> matahari: absolutely no idea sorry
[08:27] <ArrenLex> indref: it shouldn't matter. If you've got hardware 3D acceleration, your card handles that output, not your CPU.
[08:27] <indref> 32MB geforce2, 256MB ram, p3 800mhz
[08:27] <indref> True. The cpu usage is unusual.
[08:27] <Diego> What do Linux people use for music? Winamp?
[08:27] <indref> I use XMMS
[08:27] <Madpilot> Diego, Muine here, but Rhythymbox is good too
[08:27] <screechingcat> amarok
[08:27] <indref> And totem for streams
[08:28] <Diego> Does Winamp run? :(
[08:28] <indref> I want a foobar2000 type
[08:28] <screechingcat> thru wine it does
[08:28] <matahari> has anyone of you ubuntu edgy eft knot3 running at the moment?
[08:28] <indref> Diego, I'm telling you now, get XMMS, it's a total clone.
[08:28] <lotusleaf> matahari: #ubuntu+1
[08:28] <ArrenLex> I use mplayer and xmms.
[08:28] <Diego> Wine scares me. I guess I'll use whatever is default.
[08:28] <Diego> Oh. Clones are nice too.
[08:28] <Madpilot> Diego, Applications->Sound & Video -> Rhythymbox Music Player
[08:28] <indref> Diego, You will not notice the difference, I swear it.
[08:28] <screechingcat> Diego : Use Amarok and u'll never complain
[08:29] <Diego> I'm on 2% download. :)
[08:29] <ArrenLex> Is that the torrent, Diego?
[08:29] <indref> So, I'm confused.
[08:29] <lotusleaf> AmaroK > winamp
[08:29] <ArrenLex> Because when I downloaded it a few days ago, I found that the bittorrent was far SLOWER than the standard download.
[08:29] <indref> My cpu supposedly dies when I run 3D stuff.
[08:29] <screechingcat> Amrok > pumped up version of iTunes
[08:29] <indref> And yet 3d still runs rather nicely. Ideas?
[08:30] <ArrenLex> indref: be happy that it works and don't mess with it? :D
[08:30] <indref> I like bittorrent, share the love.
[08:30] <indref> ArrenLex, Yeah, very good idea.
[08:30] <Diego> It's the HTTP download, ArrenLex, but I'm on third-world-country DSL.
[08:30] <indref> Diego, Yikes.
[08:30] <ArrenLex> Yay third-world-countries? o_o
[08:30] <Diego> I can download at 80KB/s today and no faster than 5KB/s the next.
[08:31] <indref> Yay for 3MB cable.. that, shock horror, runs at 3MB! :0
[08:31] <screechingcat> yeah. my bittorent speed is way lower than my download speed too
[08:31] <Diego> (Currently at 5)
[08:31] <ArrenLex> ....sweet baby Jesus. I didn't know numbers went that small!
[08:31] <usli> kihai: i have installed gparted
[08:31] <usli> but i cant find the program??
[08:31] <screechingcat> system > administration > gparted
[08:32] <indref> Someone help out usli, I don't know how to do what he wants, but he reminds me of me a lot.
[08:32] <indref> Give the noob a hand :D
[08:32] <usli> heheheehe
[08:32] <screechingcat> usli : system > administration > gparted
[08:32] <usli> hiks hiks
[08:32] <usli> :(
[08:32] <usli> already found it
[08:32] <indref> Blinker, amen.
[08:32] <usli> thanks anyway
[08:32] <indref> Blinker, How much do you seem.
[08:32] <indref> seed even
[08:33] <Blinker> indref: i don't use bittorrent
[08:33] <indref> Ah.
[08:33] <indref> Blinker, May I ask why not?
[08:33] <screechingcat> so which is the best BT client for linux ?
[08:33] <Flannel> !best
[08:33] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[08:33] <screechingcat> lol
[08:33] <ArrenLex> xD
[08:33] <indref> I use bittornado, works, but it's too simple.
[08:33] <ArrenLex> The people here have developed reflexes.
[08:34] <Blinker> indref: I have no reason to.
[08:34] <indref> Blinker, Fair enough answer.
[08:34] <screechingcat> i use wine + utorrent
[08:34] <ArrenLex> I myself also use btdownload.gui
[08:34] <Madpilot> ArrenLex, we're all hooked on the bot ;)
[08:34] <indref> Flannel, You are my new hero.
[08:34] <ztg> anyone know what "Bad page state at prep_new_page (in process 'sh', page c1758500)" means in /var/log/syslog my system keeps locking up and I'm wondering if it's a hardware issue
[08:34] <Blinker> ;)
[08:34] <Flannel> indref: er, I'm not sure I deserve that.  but, sure.. why?
[08:35] <usli> back again
[08:35] <usli> hm...
[08:35] <ArrenLex> ztg: I don't think any of us know how to help you, but doing a quick google search, I found a lot of results that seem to match your error.
[08:35] <ArrenLex> http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=Bad+page+state+at+prep_new_page&btnG=Search&meta=
[08:35] <ArrenLex> Any chance any of those might help you?
[08:35] <indref> Flannel, the dict lookup on 'best'. Just perfect. :D
[08:35] <lewix> night' guys
[08:35] <lewix> by the way does someone code in C in here
[08:35] <ArrenLex> Bash, baby.
[08:35] <indref> I need to learn c, uh huh.
[08:35] <Flannel> lewix: lots of people code C in ##c
[08:36] <lewix> i know
[08:36] <lewix> but few of damn are pure newbie
[08:36] <usli> how to resize the existing ext3 ?
[08:36] <indref> I'm having touchpad problems.
[08:36] <screechingcat> Hey anyone kno were i can get edgy cds ? like shipit ?
[08:36] <lewix> im a pure newbie a i want to work in a project to improve. It's rare to get involved in a project as a newbie :)
[08:36] <indref> screechingcat, I don't think they are doing that yet, are they?
[08:36] <Blinker> indref: as in tapping while typing?
[08:36] <ArrenLex> usli: I believe gparted will let you do that. If you're trying to resize the partition you're running Linux on, though, you'll have to do it from a livecd.
[08:37] <indref> Blinker, As in freezing now and then.
[08:37] <Blinker> ah
[08:37] <screechingcat> indref : they arent doin it even after final release
[08:37] <matahari> has anyone of you ubuntu edgy eft knot3 running at the moment?
[08:37] <kihai> Anyone knows if it's possible to change the loglevel of sshd so that it logs also the times when users log out into auth.log?
[08:37] <ArrenLex> lewix: pick your favourite application and help out if you can!
[08:37] <indref> screechingcat, Ooh, weird.
[08:37] <lewix> ArrenLex, the point is I can't :P)
[08:37] <ArrenLex> Why?
[08:37] <lewix> its beyond my level
[08:37] <screechingcat> indfre : and my dl speed sucks too bad to get 700mb isos
[08:37] <lwarimav> salut  tous
[08:38] <indref> screechingcat, I hear ya.
[08:38] <lewix> lwarimav, ubuntu-fr
[08:38] <ArrenLex> You can always help out. I don't know c from z from q, but I help out by submitting bug reports and helping others with applications.
[08:38] <indref> lwarimav, G'day
[08:38] <bur[n] er> lewix: launchpad.net bugs.gnome.org  even newbs can contribute :)
[08:38] <ztg> ArrenLex: None of the google results are conclusive, some hint at memory failure others at kernel issues
[08:38] <usli> that's mean i have to use my live cd to resize my current hd ?
[08:38] <ArrenLex> Everyone contributes what they can, and everyone gives what they can.
[08:38] <lwarimav> what is ot anyway?????
[08:38] <ArrenLex> It's communism.
[08:38] <screechingcat> usli : i think so
[08:38] <indref> Yay for commies! :D
[08:39] <ArrenLex> ztg: well, are you sure your RAM is good?
[08:39] <usli> oh...
[08:39] <lewix> thnaks guys
[08:39] <lewix> anyway i got to go
[08:39] <usli> but the live cd dont have the gparted rite?...
[08:39] <ArrenLex> See you, lewix.
[08:39] <lewix> i have an early class tomorrow
[08:39] <bur[n] er> communism without supply and demand as there is an endless supply
[08:39] <screechingcat> usli : but i dont guarantee that u wont lose ur data
[08:39] <ArrenLex> burner: there is definitely a very finite supply of labour.
[08:39] <screechingcat> usli : it has gprted alright
[08:39] <ztg> memtest86+ had no errors, we're swapping out memory now
[08:40] <usli> ok...
[08:40] <usli> thanks
[08:40] <bur[n] er> ArrenLex: i'm referring to the fact that if someone else decides to use linux, another person doesn't have to sacrifice
[08:40] <bur[n] er> ArrenLex: code is easily copied and reproduced
[08:40] <indref> bur[n] er, Yup, it works because there is no shortage.
[08:40] <kihai> usli: But even if it hadn't you could easiliy install it with aptitude; even from the live cd
[08:40] <Blinker> ArrenLex: where are you from? i could go for a nice job market
[08:40] <ArrenLex> burner: Well sure. The code is shared amongst the community, just as physical goods are in communism.
[08:40] <Blinker> =p
[08:41] <screechingcat> usli : no need. gparted is built into the installer
[08:41] <ArrenLex> But to create the code, people have to put in labour.
[08:41] <usli> ok
[08:41] <ArrenLex> You can make infinite copies of what you already have, but to produce new goods, you need lavour.
[08:41] <usli> i try it first
[08:41] <kihai> Anyone that knows sth. about ssh and / or auth.log ?
[08:41] <ArrenLex> And labour, too.
[08:41] <ArrenLex> Blinker: Canada.
[08:41] <indref> Labour is free baby.
[08:41] <usli> my office required me to keep the windows
[08:41] <Blinker> ah,pff...headin there anyway
[08:41] <bur[n] er> except physical goods are finite and one person has to sacrifice for another... if you have 1 bread and two people... both people can't have 1 bread... 1 linux and two people, both can have linux
[08:41] <usli> but it already use the whole disc
[08:41] <ArrenLex> indref: labour is not free. The programmers have to feed their families, you know. That means they need some sort of return.
[08:41] <usli> but i
[08:41] <bur[n] er> only place where communism works well ;)  otherwise Che was a fool
[08:42] <screechingcat> usli : reinstall ubuntu. this time, leave a little space untouched
[08:42] <ArrenLex> The only place where communism works well is where it's voluntary, burner.
[08:42] <indref> ArrenLex, True, but think of all the work that goes into video games. No kid ever gets a return from that.
[08:42] <ArrenLex> indref: the reward for kids is fun.
[08:42] <screechingcat> ArrenLex : communism in China aint vountary
[08:42] <Flannel> !offtopic
[08:42] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:42] <indref> ArrenLex, The reward for the programmers is fun too.
[08:42] <ArrenLex> screech: and that's why it doesn't work very well.
[08:43] <ArrenLex> indref: yes, of course it is. But programmers also need to feed their kids.
[08:43] <ArrenLex> I know that if I were a father, feeding my kids would definitely be above fun on my agenda.
[08:43] <bur[n] er> so... anyone using exaile yet?
[08:43] <screechingcat> ArrenLex : but china is still the fastest grwoin economy in the world
[08:43] <bur[n] er> i can't get podcasts to work with it
[08:43] <indref> ArrenLex, As far as I know, and feel free to correct me because I'm new to linux, but I thought that linux was done on the side.
[08:43] <butleR`> Is it possible to install windows under another partition while having ubuntu installed?
[08:43] <ArrenLex> screechningcat: yes, because they're adopting "red capitalism". Wikipedia it.
[08:43] <wols_> screechingcat: but china is not communism in any way. in fact it's one of the worst capitalist countries
[08:43] <screechingcat> ok will do
[08:44] <ArrenLex> indref: sometimes it is, and sometimes it is not. It depends on the developer's needs and contributuins.
[08:44] <Flannel> guys, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:44] <Madpilot> indref, not always - Canonical - the company behind Ubuntu - has about 90 people on the payroll.
[08:44] <ArrenLex> contributions.
[08:44] <screechingcat> wols : now thats a new view
[08:44] <ArrenLex> Okay, yeah, that's enough. Sorry.
[08:44] <bimberi> please
[08:44] <screechingcat> yeah stop
[08:44] <Flannel> no. no need to stop, just take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:44] <indref> ArrenLex, I see. I always thought that programmers did their paymoney jobs, and then did linux for fun when they could.
[08:44] <ArrenLex> indref: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:44] <skwashd> hi all
[08:45] <indref> Support only in here eh?
[08:45] <skwashd> does anyone know how to make a powerbook 3G lombard network boot ?
[08:45] <indref> I can deal with that. :D
[08:45] <indref> I still need help with my touchpad!
[08:45] <bur[n] er> indref: que pasa?
[08:45] <Flannel> indref: you can be in both ;) but yeah, with 800 people, this can't be a chat room ;)
[08:45] <indref> My touchpad is moody.
[08:45] <ArrenLex> indref: what was this question again?
[08:45] <bur[n] er> !define moody
[08:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about define moody - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:45] <ArrenLex> Flannel: the problem is only about 10 of those are ever talking.
[08:45] <bimberi> skwashd: i think there is a key sequence you hold down at boot (but have no idea what it is though)
[08:45] <indref> It freezes at very random times for very short periods of time.
[08:46] <skwashd> bimberi: c is for cdrom :)
[08:46] <Flannel> ArrenLex: You apparently aren't here during the busy times.
[08:46] <indref> Like, ten seconds or so.
[08:46] <butleR`> Is it possible to install windows under another partition while having ubuntu installed?
[08:46] <skwashd> i tried n for network and it didn't seem to work
[08:46] <skwashd> neither did p for pxe
[08:46] <bimberi> skwashd: yes, that much i know too :)
[08:46] <ArrenLex> Flannel: no, I've been here during busy times. Was 911 people during the day today. I assure you I wasn't holding any communism chats then.
[08:46] <indref> butleR`, Dual boot.
[08:46] <ArrenLex> It's quiet right now, so I'm relaxing a bit.
[08:47] <screechingcat> butleR : look it up on ubuntuforums
[08:47] <ArrenLex> butler: yes, of course. If you install windows first and then install ubuntu, it will detect it and set you up properly, so you pick at boot which you want to run.
[08:47] <skwashd> bimberi: i tried ##apple first but it was dead
[08:47] <skwashd> and my ppc questions in #edubuntu went unanswered
[08:47] <butleR`> but i don't want to lose all of my progress in ubuntu
[08:47] <bimberi> skwashd: could be the N key from what i'm getting
[08:47] <ArrenLex> Sorry, indref, I don't have a laptop. Don't know how to help you.
[08:47] <indref> butleR`, You won't/
[08:47] <skwashd> and google has been pretty useless
[08:48] <screechingcat> apple users use IRC ?
[08:48] <screechingcat> *shocked*
[08:48] <indref> ArrenLex, Meh, you replied to my question, that's all I can ask. :D
[08:48] <bimberi> skwashd: yes i saw the #edubuntu q but shrugged :|
[08:48] <indref> Wait, there are apple users online now?
[08:48] <cafuego> skwashd: netbooting a mac? Hold down 'n'.
[08:48] <ArrenLex> indref: really, man, join #ubuntu-offtopic.
[08:48] <cafuego> skwashd: (and keep holding it!)
[08:48] <indref> ArrenLex, I'm waiting for help on my touchpad..
[08:48] <ArrenLex> You can be in more than one channel.
[08:49] <ArrenLex> What program are you running?
[08:49] <cafuego> skwashd: Note that you need to have a wee tweak in the dhcpd.conf
[08:49] <indref> ArrenLex, Can be.
[08:49] <screechingcat> indref : try #ubuntuforums
[08:49] <indref> ArrenLex, XChat.
[08:49] <ArrenLex> I'm pretty sure you can be in more than one channel with XChat. Come, join us!
[08:49] <skwashd> cafuego: i tried that ... it comes up stage 1 ... l for linux c for cdrom
[08:49] <indref> screechingcat, I posted there, no reply. but it is a forum, so I'm giving it time.
[08:49] <Madpilot> indref, just type /join #ubuntu-offtopic, XChat will open another tab for you
[08:49] <indref> ArrenLex, Well, ok.
[08:49] <cafuego> skwashd: Did you tell the dhcp server to allow bootp?
[08:50] <butleR`> indref : You know where I can find a tutorial? Just got off of work and need to get this done fast.
[08:50] <skwashd> cafuego: i will hop back onto #edubuntu as it is more relevant there
[08:50] <screechingcat> indref: once it goes topside nobodu's even gonna see it
[08:50] <indref> butleR`, It would not be fast.
[08:50] <skwashd> bimberi: thanks for the help
[08:50] <butleR`> I've got a couple of hours
[08:52] <indref> butleR`, If you check out ubuntuforums.org, you will find a tutorial, I'll put money on it.
[08:53] <screechingcat> butleR : i'll put my house on it
[08:53] <Flannel> !tell butleR` about dualboot
[08:53] <Flannel> butleR`: if youre installing windows second, you'll need to restore grub after installing windows,
[08:53] <Flannel> !tell butleR` about grub
[08:53] <Flannel> first link there
[08:53] <butleR`> Ty.
[09:02] <ArrenLex> Hello, I need help with YOUR MOTHER.
[09:02] <ArrenLex> ....sorry.
[09:02] <indref> :D
[09:02] <ArrenLex> *tiptoes away*
[09:03] <sq377> Does anyone know how to use "gpsfetchmap.pl" (gpsdrive map download script)
[09:04] <lastnode> ArrenLex, please observ the CoC in here.
[09:05] <sq377> is anyone in here experienced in gpsdrive?
[09:06] <lastnode> sq377, you're better off finding a specific channel. try #hardware?
[09:06] <sq377> alright thanks
[09:07] <nacer> hi
[09:07] <lastnode> sq377, someone in here may have an answer too, so hang around ad see
[09:07] <lastnode> nacer, hi
[09:07] <ArrenLex> !hi
[09:07] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to $chan!
[09:07] <sq377> I planned to
[09:07] <ArrenLex> ...by the way, shouldn't someone fix $chan?
[09:07] <t3nxt> how can i change from kubuntu to ubuntu?
[09:07] <sq377> I'm trying to use the map fetch script in it but it just quits
[09:08] <t3nxt> (i like ubuntu more)
[09:08] <bur[n] er> t3nxt: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:08] <indref> bur[n] er, Yikes, it's that easy?
[09:08] <ArrenLex> burner: shouldn't he uninstall kde and associated applications?
[09:09] <bur[n] er> indref: even easier... alt+f2, type "xterm -e sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[09:09] <bur[n] er> ArrenLex: that i leave to them ;)
[09:09] <screechingcat> never use apt-get for desktop
[09:09] <t3nxt> why is that?
[09:09] <screechingcat> if u want to remove anything, u'll be screwed
[09:10] <lastnode> t3nxt, sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[09:10] <screechingcat> use sudo aptitude ubuntu-deskto
[09:10] <bur[n] er> screechingcat: ?
[09:10] <ziro01> sup?
[09:10] <bur[n] er> why would you be screwed?
[09:10] <lastnode> bur[n] er, aptitude handles deps better
[09:10] <ziro01> that's a secret
[09:10] <Thuryn> hi
[09:10] <Thuryn> investigating
[09:10] <Admiral_Chicago> i used apt-get to install kubuntu and it was fine
[09:10] <screechingcat> apt-get dosent remove dpendencies
[09:10] <bur[n] er> how are they so different, i've used apt-get for years successfully
[09:10] <screechingcat> installing is fine
[09:10] <lastnode> whoa magic netsplit
[09:11] <TeePOG> wheeeee
[09:11] <sq377> woah
[09:11] <screechingcat> wth ?
[09:11] <bur[n] er> ok... so when they ask to remove, then we'll tell them about aptitude ;)
[09:11] <t3nxt> what should i use then?
[09:11] <Madpilot> Giant netsplit. Cool.
[09:11] <bur[n] er> t3nxt: they do the same thing effectively
[09:11] <screechingcat> nope, only when u install with aptitude it removes with aptitude
[09:11] <lastnode> Madpilot, aye
[09:11] <screechingcat> not again
[09:11] <michael_> morning
[09:11] <sq377> woah their back
[09:11] <bur[n] er> t3nxt: third option, you could use adept ;)
[09:11] <screechingcat> nope, only when u install with aptitude it removes with aptitude
[09:12] <t3nxt> remove what?
[09:12] <t3nxt> kde stuff?
[09:12] <screechingcat> HOLD
[09:12] <screechingcat> yes
[09:12] <michael_> i have trouble on getting my brother hl2030 laser printer to work
[09:12] <lastnode> michael_, "trouble" is not a helpful support request. please be clear when you ask
[09:12] <michael_> i do everything fine with the http cups interface but at the end cups is asking for a password
[09:12] <t3nxt> ok... so if i want to remove all kde stuff and get ubuntu(gnome stuff) i should aptitude
[09:13] <michael_> and i don't know any password
[09:13] <michael_> for example the root password or my user password is not accepted
[09:13] <lastnode> t3nxt, no. that's not what screechingcat was on about. :-) just use sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop, it will make removing that meta package easier.
[09:13] <bur[n] er> michael_: have you tried just the gnome interface?  or kde interface?
[09:13] <lastnode> t3nxt, removing kubuntu desktop completely is going to be a bit of a hassle for you. id just keep it.
[09:14] <Diego> So where does the money for mailing tons of free CDs come from?
[09:14] <ArrenLex> michael: http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Brother-HL-2030
[09:14] <ArrenLex> Does that help?
[09:14] <michael_> bur[n] er, i tried it and i get an hl2030 driver but i was not able to print a test page
[09:15] <lastnode> Diego, non support related questions in #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[09:15] <Diego> Oh, sorry.
[09:15] <bur[n] er> michael_: i wish i knew more... printers and ubuntu are not my strong suit... i never print
[09:16] <michael_> bur[n] er, ok ;-)
[09:21] <ootput> hi guys, are there any gui frontends that are capable of simple dvd->mpeg4 (xvid, divx, etc) compression?
[09:21] <ootput> something that includes dvd rip
[09:22] <sq377> ootput dvdrip is a gui I thought, but you might want to try acidrip
[09:22] <sq377> Ubuntu cannot seem to estimate the time left in my battery... it keeps telling me I have -1 minutes left and I should plug in (14%)
[09:22] <ootput> sq377: aptitude listed a (non-existant) dependency when i tried to get dvdrip
[09:22] <ootput> sq377: thanks, i'll check it out
[09:22] <left> sq377, quit! quit!
[09:23] <sq377> left: heh, I just plugged in, but the error still makes me laugh
[09:32] <cpk1> argh been trying to connect my desktop and laptop wirelessly but no matter what i do they cant seem to be able to even ping each other
[09:34] <cpk1> !dhcpd
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dhcpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:34] <spasmodo> cpk1: is there a firewall?
[09:35] <lastnode> ide with python syntax highlighting, anyone?
[09:35] <wols_> SPE, wingide, etc
[09:36] <wols_> go to python.org and look on their IDE page
[09:36] <zaggynl> cpk1, have you tried fixed IP adresses?
[09:36] <lastnode> thanks wols_
[09:36] <wols_> ah yes, eric3 too
[09:36] <wols_> SPE and eric3 are Free
[09:37] <cpk1> hrmm, what i did was i brought my kubunto wlan0 up as 192.168.10.1 and tried setting the windows box to 192.168.10.130
[09:38] <Hazarath> Can figure out how to change my screen color depth, help please.
[09:38] <lastnode> wols_, i settled for kate. i just wish there was a kate equivalent written in gtk ;-)
[09:38] <cpk1> firewall is off in the windows box
[09:39] <spasmodo> cpk1: both can ping the router?
[09:39] <cpk1> lastnode: gedit?
[09:39] <cpk1> spasmodo: there is no router
[09:39] <cpk1> just the 2 boxes with wireless
[09:39] <lastnode> cpk1, gedit doesnt have the nifty function widgets etc (in kate you can + or - to hide a function, i love that)
[09:39] <Hazarath> Color depth problems, help please.
[09:40] <spasmodo> cpk1: can they both ping another IP address?
[09:40] <cpk1> spasmodo: they arent connected to any network, i just want them to see each other wirelessly
[09:41] <spasmodo> cpk1: aah, ad hoc
[09:41] <cpk1> and end up transfering files, but first they need to communicate =\
[09:41] <Hazarath> cpk1, can ya help me? Kinda pressed for time, heh.
[09:41] <wols_> !tell Hazarath about ask
[09:42] <Hazarath> Ok, I'll ask again, sorry.
[09:42] <Hazarath> I'll just re-phrase...
[09:42] <cpk1> spasmodo: any ideas?
[09:42] <spasmodo> cpk1: sorry, I can't help you there
[09:42] <wols_> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:42] <Hazarath> How do I change my color depth?
[09:43] <spasmodo> cpk1: no exp with device to device (ad hoc) networks, sorry
[09:43] <spasmodo> Hazaroth, do you have a graphics card?
[09:44] <cpk1> spasmodo: alright, well now at least i know to say i am trying to do ad-hoc
[09:44] <spasmodo> Hazaroth, is it set up?
[09:44] <Hazarath> GeForce 5200, FX, ya.
[09:44] <wols_> cpk1: are they on the same channel. Do you have all kinds of encryption and access control disabled (only for the initial testing)?
[09:45] <spasmodo> Hazaroth, funny, same card I have
[09:45] <spasmodo> Hazaroth have you edited the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[09:45] <Hazarath> ..wha?
[09:45] <cpk1> wols_: i think part of the problem is one of the boxes is on windows so i dont quite have as much control on that
[09:45] <lupine_85> ctrl+alt+kv_+ and ctrl+alt + kp_down
[09:46] <Hazarath> spasmodo, it works, just when I try to run SL via Cedega, it says I got the wrong color depth.
[09:46] <lupine_85> Hazarath: use the linux client.... :D
[09:46] <Hazarath> ..where?
[09:46] <lupine_85> on the SL site somewhere
[09:46] <Hazarath> Hold on, lemme search.
[09:46] <lupine_85> #'download', I'd imagine
[09:47] <wols_> cpk1: you do have the same amount of control as in linux unless you use the compiler
[09:48] <spasmodo> cpk1: I have not read this, but it might help:
[09:48] <spasmodo> http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t453699.html
[09:49] <Hazarath> How do I install via a archive?
[09:50] <cpk1> spasmodo: thanks, reading a forum post right now, iwconfig doesnt seem to pay attention to me when i tell it what essid to use
[09:50] <cpk1> i set the essid with iwconfig but when i do iwconfig it still says essid off/any
[09:51] <Hazarath> Ok, how do I install a app that comes in the form of an archive?
[09:51] <cpk1> oh, nevermind guess i had to change it to ad-hoc first heh
[09:52] <spasmodo> cpk1: does your network show up with 'iwlist scan' ?
[09:52] <visik7> does ubuntu kernel support inotify and locate with the support of it ?
[09:52] <spasmodo> cpk1: good, is it working?
[09:52] <cpk1> spasmodo: still havent touched the winbox yet =P
[09:53] <Hazarath> Help installing via an archive, please... how do I do it?
[09:53] <carles> Wuenas a todos
[09:53] <cpk1> spasmodo: but iwlist scan doesnt bring up the essid that this box is using
[09:53] <lotusleaf> Hazarath: what do you mean in the form of an archive?
[09:53] <Hazarath> bz2
[09:53] <cpk1> not sure if it should either
[09:53] <lotusleaf> Hazarath: tar xjf filename
[09:54] <lotusleaf> Hazarath: then go into the created directory, read the INSTALL and README files
[09:54] <lotusleaf> Hazarath: then, most likely you will ./configure && make && sudo make install
[09:54] <cpk1> spasmodo: i think i just got it too work!
[09:54] <spasmodo> cpk1: sweet
[09:55] <cpk1> spasmodo: they can ping!
[09:55] <spasmodo> cpk1: good job
[09:55] <cpk1> now, this is kind of embarrasing but, the problem seems to be it wasnt set to ad-hoc =X
[09:56] <spasmodo> cpk1: I would rather be embarrassed with a working solution than frustrated :d
[09:57] <spasmodo> good night all
[09:57] <lotusleaf> Hazarath: then after you sudo make install a package, you can make clean to free up space, keep the directory around so you can uninstall whatever program you installed later with sudo make uninstall
[09:58] <lotusleaf> Hazarath: or just replace sudo make install with sudo checkinstall to make and install a .deb package after which you can remove the directory
[09:58] <lotusleaf> Hazarath: that is, if you have checkinstall installed (sudo apt-get install checkinstall)
[09:58] <Hazarath> lotusleaf, may I PM you? Room clutter is confusing me. @_@
[09:59] <lotusleaf> Hazarath: instead of PMMing me, why not /join #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[10:00] <Hazarath> lotusleaf, Nevermind, I'll try the fourms, or somethnig... all this is confusing me. Hence my asking.
[10:00] <lotusleaf> Hazarath: my instructions were simple enough, very well, good luck. :)
[10:00] <SaintN> hmmm
[10:00] <SaintN> if he cant understand ur instructions, how is he going to survive?
[10:00] <lotusleaf> Hazarath: and/or perhaps someone else can help you in here
[10:01] <lotusleaf> SaintN: people learn/interpret things differently
[10:02] <spasmodo> Hazeroth: - Try this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_compile_.deb_files_from_source
[10:02] <spasmodo> good night for real
[10:09] <harry> how do i enlarge the spreadsheet of openoffice.calc?
[10:09] <fulat2k> anyone knows why i'm not able to extend a volume group in ubuntu lvm?
[10:10] <fulat2k> i've done pvcreate, but vgextend rootvol /dev/hdd8 says that it can't determine that /dev/hdd8 is a physical partition.
[10:10] <deep__> HELLO!
[10:11] <XaXXon> how can I get an xscreensaver running as my background?  (in xgl or otherwise)
[10:11] <harry> how do i enlarge the spreadsheet of openoffice.calc?. the spreadsheet is too small for my viewing
[10:11] <XaXXon> harry: get a bigger monitor?
[10:11] <rum_topf> harry: how about view, zoom
[10:12] <XaXXon> that's probably a better answer
[10:12] <rum_topf> hehe
[10:12] <NET||abuse> Hi, i'm cat'ing out files in a dir and greping for a particular code, how can i show what files are getting hits
[10:12] <harry> XaXXon. yeah that'll help. i mean is there any settings??
[10:12] <NET||abuse> so for eg. i'm doing "cat * | grep US123481934"
[10:12] <XaXXon> harry: what rum_topf said
[10:12] <ootput> fulat2k: it's been a while since i last used lvm(2), but shouldn't you be adding hdd8 to the physical volume, rather than the volume group?
[10:12] <NET||abuse> I get 3 rows back from my data files, but i don't know what files thyere in???
[10:12] <harry> rum_topf: isnt that at the preview?
[10:13] <XaXXon> NET||abuse: -H?
[10:13] <harry> rum_topf: thanks. i found it
[10:13] <rum_topf> harry: good
[10:13] <harry> XaXXon: never mind. i found it
[10:13] <NET||abuse> XaXXon, on which one? grep or cat, and even then, grep will strip out the output no?
[10:14] <XaXXon> NET||abuse: for grep -- but don't use cat, just grep
[10:14] <rum_topf> any wlan specialists here? I can't get an IP for my ra0, read myself silly...
[10:14] <XaXXon> grep -H "secret word" *.txt
[10:14] <NET||abuse> XaXXon, OOOOHHHH,,, that's the one :) cheers man :)
[10:15] <XaXXon> NET||abuse: cheers
[10:15] <fulat2k> ootput: from what i've read, u use pvcreate to create the physical volume and then assign the physical volume to a volume group.  then u redistribute the space to the logical volumes from there
[10:20] <IceTox> How do I check which ubuntu install I have? (hoary, breezy or dapper)
[10:20] <XaXXon> reinstall and check the media first, this time
[10:20] <XaXXon> actually, I don't know..
[10:20] <lotusleaf> IceTox: press ctrl+alt+f1 and read
[10:20] <lotusleaf> IceTox: followed by ctrl+alt+f7 to return
[10:20] <IceTox> lol... good point lotusleaf :) It's in the /etc/motd ?
[10:21] <IceTox> that's like the only way to do it?
[10:21] <XaXXon> cat /it's not in mine
[10:21] <lotusleaf> IceTox: /etc/issue
[10:21] <delight> hi there, does somebody know where dapper saves its samba-passwords ? (smbpasswd -a user)
[10:21] <IceTox> I know which I have, but I'm just trying to find out the easiest way to find out which one you have.
[10:21] <XaXXon> yeah, in issue
[10:21] <IceTox> ah that was it lotusleaf :)
[10:21] <IceTox> thanks bro
[10:23] <lotusleaf> IceTox: yw
[10:24] <delight> in other distros its in /etc/samba/smbpasswd but in dapper i siply can't find it
[10:26] <falcon3> Does anyone know a great tutorial for Wireless and WPA encryption under Dapper ?
[10:30] <delight> falcon3 why don't u simply take the network-manager ?
[10:30] <LiraNuna> falcon3, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_Configure_Ubuntu.2FKubuntu_with_WPA_using_Network-Manager
[10:31] <Haffe> Hello.
[10:32] <Haffe> Would someone care to help me? I have set up a machine as a printerserver (using cups) but none of the clients on the network can print to it.
[10:32] <cpk1> hey, i seem to be having a dhcpd problem, the box connected to the box running dhcpd cant seem to hit google
[10:33] <_max_> Anyone know where i can obtain old versions of K/Ubuntu ? im looking for 6.06, not 6.06-1, some smartass seems to think a symlink from 6.06 to 6.06-1 is a good idea to rsync to all mirrors.
[10:33] <_max_> 6.06-1 has a bug in it so it doens't work on our systems, however the "old" 6.06 does.
[10:33] <LiraNuna> cpk1, have the client's gateway set to the host IP
[10:38] <LiraNuna> _max_, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[10:38] <zappe> I get a problem sending local mail, "LMTP connection closed after initial connection". What can be wrong?
[10:38] <acersales> hi when i keep my computer idle for few minutes my network connection drops ? what can be the reason i have checked the wire, when i try to open the System > Administration > Networking it starts again ? ping doesnt brings it back ? ??????? any idea ?
[10:38] <_max_> liranuna; thanks allot!
[10:38] <acersales> it was working fine till yesterday :(
[10:38] <LiraNuna> _max_, np
[10:38] <cpk1> LiraNuna: i have done that and both google.com and 64.233.167.99 cant be reached
[10:38] <hicham> hello
[10:38] <LiraNuna> cpk1, try disabling DHCP and try static IP
[10:38] <hicham> does anybody here uses php?
[10:38] <hicham> phpmyadmin?
[10:38] <acersales> apachefriends
[10:39] <hicham> yep
[10:39] <hicham> what do I type
[10:39] <acersales> little bit y ?
[10:39] <hicham> in the browser
[10:39] <b_52Centos> apt-get install vlc
[10:39] <b_52Centos> give nothing?
[10:39] <hicham> so that I can access phpmyadmin?
[10:40] <cpk1> LiraNuna: still no luck with dhcpd killed =\
[10:40] <LiraNuna> cpk1, hmm
[10:41] <acersales> hicham, http://localhost
[10:41] <LiraNuna> try to use Ubuntu-ICS
[10:41] <cpk1> is there a dhcpd log anywhere? so i can see if i even took a lease out
[10:41] <LiraNuna> cpk1, you need NAT too
[10:41] <LiraNuna> http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/3/58/
[10:41] <LiraNuna> download and install it
[10:41] <hicham> well the localhost takes me to index.php
[10:41] <hicham> which I have wrote
[10:42] <acersales> yes there is a link for language ? hicham
[10:42] <acersales> or there is a link to phpMyAdmin on the left side of the screen ? hicham
[10:42] <cpk1> also, the client is a windows box, hope that doesnt make a difference
[10:42] <LiraNuna> cpk1, ifconfig <internet_interface> <gateway_ip>
[10:42] <LiraNuna> then
[10:43] <LiraNuna> ifconfig <network interface> <network ip>
[10:43] <LiraNuna> ./Ubuntu-ICS-install
[10:43] <hicham> there's nothing:s
[10:43] <LiraNuna> cpk1, i did the same with my xbox 360
[10:43] <hicham> acersales
[10:43] <acersales> hicham, what does you index.php shows ?
[10:43] <hicham> look it is a project that I'm working on
[10:44] <hicham> it is a normal internet page
[10:44] <hicham> I am used to work on the easyphp on windows
[10:44] <hicham> it is the first time that i use ubuntu for my projects
[10:44] <acersales> but are you using xampp or no ?
[10:45] <hicham> xampp is this for me acersales?
[10:45] <cpk1> LiraNuna: but why wouldnt dhcpd normally allow the client to get outside the network?
[10:46] <LiraNuna> cpk1, i dont' know - i failed using dhcp too - Ubuntu-ICS does it just fine
[10:46] <LiraNuna> afaik, the kernel can do NAT by itself
[10:46] <LiraNuna> Ubuntu-ICS just enables it
[10:47] <acersales> hicham, do you use xampp ?
[10:47] <hicham> what is xampp?
[10:47] <hicham> no I don't use it I don't know what it is
[10:48] <acersales> hicham, complete package that can be downloaded from apachefriends.org and contains
[10:48] <RedGhost> Can someone recommend a good torrent client that supports encryption besides Azureus
[10:48] <acersales> hicham, php 4, 5  mysql , apache , phpMyAdmin and other mysql php tools
[10:49] <hicham> I installed them by using the synaptic package manager
[10:49] <hicham> I added the repository and installed
[10:49] <hicham> phpmyadmin, mysql-server 5, php 5
[10:50] <acersales> sorry then i dont know much about it
[10:50] <acersales> but you can do one thing look in the bin files
[10:50] <hicham> ok man
[10:50] <hicham> thanks in all cases
[10:50] <acersales> hicham, a gui or else download what i said after removing these packages
[10:50] <hicham> it is not a big deal but i don't have the time to wase
[10:51] <acersales> one shot and compatible with both linux and windows
[10:51] <acersales> hicham, good luck bye
[10:51] <hicham> bye
[10:51] <kyja> I still dont see how I can upgrade to 2.6.18 kernel
[10:51] <wols_> cpk1: does dhcp set your default gateway correctly?
[10:51] <hicham> does anybody know what is the link to type in the browser to access phpmyadmin?
[10:52] <kyja> I do a forced static
[10:52] <erics> hi all, I have been trying to get mail-notification to run imaps (the ssl/tls options are grayed out), i am on dapper and x86_64, the version of mn is 2.0, what do i need to do to get ssl/tls working?
[10:52] <mAIJK> How do I configure lmtp on my EXIM/Cyrus server?
[10:53] <wols_> hicham: look for something of phpmyadmin under /var/www/
[10:53] <hicham> man
[10:54] <hicham> i replaced the index in www by my index.php
[10:54] <hicham> my page so i lost the link!
[10:54] <wols_> what "link"?
[10:54] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> people i have a problem. i update my kernel.
[10:54] <hicham> the phpmyadmin
[10:54] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> now GRUB shows two kernels to boot from
[10:54] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> how the hell to corec this
[10:54] <SaintN> lol
[10:54] <wols_> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: old kernel and the new kernel? this is not a bug, it's a real feature
[10:54] <SaintN> two options, uninstall the old kernel
[10:54] <erics> maybe someone knows a repo with a newer mail-notification version?
[10:54] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> LOLZ
[10:55] <SaintN> or, just remove it from /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:55] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok now u r talking :D
[10:55] <WhiteDeth> im about to install Ubuntu
[10:55] <WhiteDeth> should I format the partition as NTFS or FAT32?
[10:55] <SaintN> neither
[10:55] <SaintN> ext3
[10:55] <WhiteDeth> oh?
[10:56] <WhiteDeth> will Ubuntu's Live CD do that itself when I install it?
[10:56] <SaintN> u going to duel boot with Windows?
[10:56] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> WhiteDeth: you need ext3 and swap
[10:56] <WhiteDeth> yes
[10:56] <WhiteDeth> I have a 20GB partition with Vista on it as well, im dual booting XP and Vista...
[10:56] <SaintN> Ubuntus installer will take care of all that for ya WhiteDeth
[10:56] <WhiteDeth> so im thinking ill just install Linux on top of the Vista partition
[10:56] <WhiteDeth> will that work?
[10:56] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> on top? what does that mean
[10:56] <WhiteDeth> over it
[10:56] <hicham> some body help me!!!!
[10:56] <WhiteDeth> vista out ubuntu in
[10:56] <user42> vista users, is it crap?
[10:56] <TheSheep> I have an i810 card here, and it only uses ridicolusly low resolution and bpp. The man says the card doesn't have its own ram and uses the system's. How do I make it use more?
[10:57] <SaintN> hicham - wasup?
[10:57] <WhiteDeth> it is crap -_-
[10:57] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> lol.
[10:57] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i thought vista was good
[10:57] <SaintN> WhiteDeth - boot the ubuntu live cd and tell it to install on the vista partition
[10:57] <TheSheep> !i810
[10:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i810 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:57] <SaintN> and yes, vista sucks
[10:57] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> SaintN: its easier said than done. he is a newbie.
[10:57] <WhiteDeth> SaintN: Will it format it as well?
[10:57] <hicham> i need the link to write in the browser to run phpmyadmin SaintN
[10:57] <SAngeli> is there a way to be able to block specific flash animations? It seems that now advertisements moved toward flash so that people cannot block them. Any idea?
[10:57] <orient2000> what is Vista?
[10:57] <mekber> hello there testing
[10:57] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> LOL
[10:58] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> here comes a cool guy. tel him what Vista is
[10:58] <WhiteDeth> im a n00b to linux, not to computers.
[10:58] <WhiteDeth> Vista = new Windows.
[10:58] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> orient2000: latest Microsoft sucking OS
[10:58] <WhiteDeth> Microsoft Windows Vista
[10:58] <SaintN> hicham - http://servername/phpmyadmin/
[10:58] <WhiteDeth> we're on RC1 now, but im running Beta 2.
[10:58] <WhiteDeth> Buggier than the buggiest shit EVER.
[10:58] <orient2000> oh sh.. sure must be crap, nothing new
[10:58] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> LOL. which version u were usign/
[10:58] <kyja> also vista beta2 sucked for me. then I played with ubuntu
[10:58] <wols_> TheSheep: BIOS
[10:58] <WhiteDeth> im on beta 2.
[10:59] <WhiteDeth> I only - ONLY got it because I wanted to get a good looking OS, with Aero.
[10:59] <WhiteDeth> turns out, it's ugly as shit.
[10:59] <WhiteDeth> also...then I saw that youtube video of XGL and compiz...
[10:59] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> LOL. at least i heard that it looks good?
[10:59] <SaintN> stop ur swearing, I never wanna hear vista again :)
[10:59] <TheSheep> wols_: bios has set 64k, but the driver ignores that and uses 8
[10:59] <WhiteDeth> so now im hooked into getting myself Beryl and AIGXL
[10:59] <WhiteDeth> it looks like crap
[10:59] <WhiteDeth> its another piece of Microsoft-copying-Apple felony.
[10:59] <wols_> TheSheep: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then. and it's 64MB, not 64k
[10:59] <hicham> doesn't work SaintN
[10:59] <SaintN> yah
[11:00] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> that is why i say: LInux rocks!
[11:00] <WhiteDeth> anyway, so, Ubuntu Live CD will just format the partition as well?
[11:00] <hicham> url not found SaintN
[11:00] <kyja> xp would use 200mb of ram where vista would use over the 1gig of ram I have and it would runn all my 3.4ghz at 100% over heat my laptop until it shut down.
[11:00] <wols_> hicham: have you looked in /var/www?
[11:00] <SaintN> phpmyadmin doesnt install itself in /var/www wols_
[11:01] <kyja> I like ubuntu. however some graphics features eat the clock until it over heats. I am careful what screen saver I use.
[11:01] <hicham> yes I looked
[11:01] <wols_> SaintN: then there will be no /phpmyadmin/ like you suggested
[11:01] <hicham> there is only the page that I made which is index.php
[11:01] <surface> kyja:  so vista must be provide very good functionality then
[11:01] <SaintN> hicham - pm me for help
[11:01] <hicham> wols_,
[11:01] <WhiteDeth> vista is a direct copy of OSX
[11:01] <SaintN> yes there will wols_ coz they mod apache conf's
[11:01] <wols_> hicham: if there is none in /var/www you need to make a symlink from /var/www/ to the place phpmyadmin actually is on disk
[11:01] <mekber> Mambo every one what is the best IDE under ubuntu for c++, java help
[11:01] <WhiteDeth> therefore...it's got a slightly less functioning, if not MUCH worse functioning operating system.
[11:02] <SaintN> no u dont wols
[11:02] <wols_> SaintN: suit yourself
[11:02] <kyja> omg I hated vista. the looks are nioce and the features are nice. but what kind of machine do you need? one with 6gigs of ram and 8ghz clock? not to mention the footprint it leaved in your drive.
[11:03] <hicham> ok thanks wols_
[11:03] <WhiteDeth> Yeah, mine's a 12GB install.
[11:03] <kyja> backwards compatibility is sometimes a pain in the butt also.
[11:03] <wols_> hicham: if it actually modifies the apache config, you could also dpkg-reconfigure it
[11:04] <TheSheep> wols_: yay! found the other memory setting in bios, and it helped, thanks a lot!
[11:04] <kyja> I am pleased with ubuntu, even if I still dont have it 100% setup corectly yet.
[11:05] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> kyja: ubuntu rocks
[11:06] <tarzeau> http://www.linuks.mine.nu/rockstone.jpg
[11:06] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guys can anyone help me regarding GCC
[11:06] <kyja> If I can figure out graphics settings for my ati x600 so that some of those graphics dont run my lappy in the ground. and get my wifi at 54g I will be all set
[11:06] <kyja> yes it deos. very fine os.
[11:06] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> people anyone knows GCC here?
[11:07] <Madpilot> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, it would help if you asked a more specific question...
[11:07] <SaintN> not entirely
[11:07] <kyja> dont know for sure PunjabiFLOYDIAN
[11:07] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> which format does GCC follow?
[11:07] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i mean. i wrote a simple C++ program.
[11:07] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> it doesnt compile
[11:07] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> what is the command to compile using GCC
[11:08] <Juhaz> gcc is c compiler. use g++
[11:08] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> oH HELL!
[11:08] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i thought that GCC can compile C, C++, Ada and JAVA etc etc
[11:08] <kyja> probly.
[11:08] <SaintN> and u thought u were going crazy :P
[11:09] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> and guys which is better
[11:09] <Juhaz> it can, depending on your definition of gcc, and the flags, but generally all those different parts of it also have a direct name
[11:09] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Evolution or Thunderbird
[11:09] <surface> PunjabiFLOYDIAN:  g++
[11:09] <surface> ahh
[11:09] <phearless> what is the repo for mplayer on dapper ?
[11:10] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> surface: thats ok. which is better - evolution or thunderbird or outlook under wine?
[11:10] <SaintN> not outlook under wine :P
[11:10] <SaintN> I would say thunderbird
[11:10] <surface> PunjabiFLOYDIAN:  thunderbird, some of them use kmail
[11:10] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i knew that. open source geeks are anti microsoft
[11:11] <kyja> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, gcc -dumpspecs
[11:11] <kyja> ?
[11:11] <PecisDarbs> wanted to ask - anyone else expierence strange firefox freeze while using gmail.com after newest dapper updates?
[11:11] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Pecis: none whatsoever
[11:11] <PecisDarbs> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: Evolution is fine
[11:11] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> just updated it a few minutes back
[11:11] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Pecis: yup. just finished googling
[11:12] <user42> pine !!!
[11:12] <surface> haha pine user
[11:12] <surface> legacy
[11:12] <compengi> if i have 2 network cards on my ubuntu machine and i want to make it as a server, such that i will receive internet from the first card and route it to the other network card to the rest of the network, how can this be done, can anyone help me?
[11:12] <PecisDarbs> Thunderbird is kinda broken for me
[11:13] <zaggynl> pine?
[11:13] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> what is pine?
[11:13] <user42> email client...
[11:13] <PecisDarbs> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: pine is console mail app
[11:13] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> lol. ok
[11:13] <surface> compengi:  that means u r going to turn ur machine to router?
[11:13] <PecisDarbs> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: quite usable, in fact, but of course not for common users
[11:13] <Madpilot> old terminal email app - I still use it for one account, actually.
[11:13] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> yeah. for geeks
[11:14] <compengi> surface, yes
[11:14] <compengi> surface, likely as a server
[11:14] <Mortice> use mutt instead of pine, because of pine's braindead licensing
[11:14] <surface> compengi:  iptables might be the direction for normal requirement
[11:14] <qsrv> hi
[11:15] <mekber> MonoDevelop
[11:15] <qsrv> my current ubuntu install takes up a bit too much space
[11:15] <qsrv> are there any packages I can remove that are really not needed?
[11:16] <PecisDarbs> qsrv: what means - too much space? :) one gig, two? :)
[11:16] <qsrv> 5
[11:16] <PecisDarbs> and how much is your own data?
[11:16] <qsrv> my data is on another partition
[11:16] <PecisDarbs> ohhhh
[11:16] <PecisDarbs> hmmmm
[11:17] <qsrv> Is there any way to quickly see which packages are taking up this much space?
[11:17] <compengi> surface, so i should only enable both network cards put on the first network card the ips that i would receive the internet from and then on the other card i should put the internal server ip like 192.168.0.1 and the gateway with the dns of the first network card, is that what you mean?
[11:17] <surface> qsrv:  u can see all the pkgs u installed by doing dpkg -l
[11:17] <kyja> qsrv, synaptic has a view options to see before install and after install sizes.
[11:18] <surface> compengi:  lol, did i said so much? i am not sure, it depends on how you want it to be.
[11:18] <kyja> I would see if I could not just make the partition bigger though myself.
[11:19] <compengi> surface, i want to get the internet working on my internal network through 2 cards :)
[11:20] <surface> ur second card out to hub?
[11:20] <xocer> hi all
[11:20] <PecisDarbs> seriously, no one else don't experience firefox freezing after lastest updates? It starts to getting just very obvious
[11:20] <compengi> surface, not necessarily
[11:22] <tourach> what is the easiest way to get basic webfonts into firefox, such as Arial, Helvetica, Verdana and Georgia? I'm running dapper. sorry, might nog be right channel to ask in
[11:22] <Ackeubu_> hey i did  ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure usplash' but it wasnt able to complete. is there some way to replace /boot/initrd.**** with a working one?
[11:23] <wols_> tourach: msttcorefonts I guess
[11:23] <surface> compengi:  so i am not sure ur design or ur network environment, no idea how u going to do.
[11:23] <sonium> how can I make /dev/ttyS0 accessible by the www-data user?
[11:23] <fallingdutch> Ackeubu_, have a look at update-initramfs
[11:24] <compengi> surface, how do i get into the iptables?
[11:24] <fallingdutch> sonium, "chgroup www-date /dev/ttyS0" or add the user www-data to the group that has access rights to ttyS0
[11:25] <fallingdutch> sonium, the second one is the best
[11:25] <wols_> compengi: use ubuntu-ICS or ipmasq
[11:25] <wols_> sonium: man addgroup. Add the www-data user to the group that owns /dev/ttyS0
[11:25] <surface> compengi:  its more to network environment design problem instead of ubuntu question. and if u need to do port forwarding, or nat, you can check out iptables
[11:25] <surface> iptables comes with ubuntu.
[11:25] <xocer> alguien habla espaol
[11:26] <fyrestrtr> !es
[11:26] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:26] <kyja> how would I obtain / compile / and use a newer kernel ? the bot wiki link is realy out of date.
[11:26] <mekber> ubuntu so far so good
[11:26] <mekber> ok chaw
[11:26] <fyrestrtr> kyja: which wiki link is out of date?
[11:26] <[-Haza-Lappy-] > I feel a little stupid here but i installed Ubuntu from the live CD and during the installation i was promted to create a user and set the password. fair enough. but i was never promted to set a root password. =/ so logging in as root is a little difficult. any pointers? =)
[11:26] <fallingdutch> sonium, it would be then "usermod -G dialout www-data"
[11:26] <kyja> !kernel
[11:26] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:26] <kyja> I think
[11:26] <[-Haza-Lappy-] > is there a default password???
[11:26] <fyrestrtr> !root > [-Haza-Lappy-] 
[11:26] <kyja> yeah that one
[11:26] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> HAZA- the password of the first user is the default password
[11:26] <kyja> you cant realy do a thing with that page
[11:26] <fyrestrtr> kyja: what's so out of date about it? It works great.
[11:27] <kyja> realy?
[11:27] <kyja> hrm
[11:27] <wols_> [-Haza-Lappy-] : man sudo. there is no intended way to become root in ubuntu
[11:27] <fallingdutch> oh, wols_ you already wrote that .... ;)
[11:27] <sonium> hrm: Error locking ttyS0. Do you have permission to write to /var/lock?
[11:27] <[-Haza-Lappy-] > ahhhhh
[11:27] <[-Haza-Lappy-] > thanks, sudo it is
[11:27] <fallingdutch> [-Haza-Lappy-] , you should never become directly root on any Linux system at all!
[11:27] <sonium> drwxrwxrwt  4 root     root      160 2006-09-26 11:26 lock
[11:27] <kyja> for me to get 2.6.17 or 2.6.18 I cant do
[11:28] <fyrestrtr> fallingdutch: that's stretching it a bit.
[11:28] <wols_> fallingdutch: that's open to debate. ubuntu is more the odd man out then the norm...
[11:28] <fyrestrtr> kyja: what do you mean you can't? What method are you using to get it?
[11:28] <tourach> wols_, thanks big time! I believe it solves my problems
[11:28] <loudmouthman> right pop quiz time .. are there any additional switches I can pass to the install cd for ubuntu 6.0.6 server to help it handle the aic7xxx Compaq Smart Array 532 controller ? because im getting errors on install
[11:28] <loudmouthman> just asking..
[11:28] <fallingdutch> fyrestrtr, wols_ , why should i become directly root? sudo -s -H will do the same and the user is logged user "root" can be anyone though
[11:28] <kyja> sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.17 <== thats bad
[11:28] <[-Haza-Lappy-] > fallingdutch: cheers. works a treat! =D
[11:29] <fyrestrtr> fallingdutch: because when you system falls into recovery mode, you'll be SOL :)
[11:29] <fallingdutch> fyrestrtr, ok ... lets say in normal operation time then ;)
[11:29] <fyrestrtr> kyja: ermm, is that even available in dapper?
[11:29] <wols_> loudmouthman: what kind of errors?
[11:29] <kyja> sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.18 <==does not like that either. 2.6.* only says it will get 2.6.15
[11:29] <fyrestrtr> !info linux-source-2.6.17
[11:29] <ubotu> Package linux-source-2.6.17 does not exist in any distro I know
[11:29] <zaggynl> Anyone knows some GUI bandwidthshaping tool?
[11:30] <loudmouthman> wols_ .. im rebooting to check now...
[11:30] <kyja> ic
[11:30] <fyrestrtr> kyja: you need to download the source from kernel.org, using the *other* method described in the wiki.
[11:30] <wols_> loudmouthman: often acpi=off and noapic help
[11:30] <loudmouthman> wols_ usually funky scsi errors ... ill type up in  second.
[11:30] <kyja> mmm I guess perhaps I would be safer to wait.
[11:30] <loudmouthman> wols_ yes i use noapic i take it its not the same
[11:30] <fyrestrtr> fallingdutch: sure there are times when you need it, but for 99% of the ubuntu users, those times never show up.
[11:31] <zappe> how do i start lmtpd ?
[11:31] <wols_> zappe: depends with which server it came
[11:31] <loudmouthman> wols_ a little wierd is that the sister server ( same config ) installed fine .. so its likely a hw error .. but i want to know ive tried more options.
[11:31] <wols_> zappe: usually the imap/pop3 one, so check its docs and config files
[11:31] <zappe> wols_, cyrus-imapd i think
[11:31] <fallingdutch> fyrestrtr, and if so they may need a rescue system ;)
[11:32] <wols_> zappe:  /etc/init.d/cyrus21 has a setting in one of the config files
[11:32] <loudmouthman> wols_ thats looking better now .. thanks.
[11:32] <zappe> wols_, um. where?
[11:33] <wols_> zappe: then try /etc/cyrus.conf
[11:34] <zappe> wols_, yeah.. but it doesn't seem to start :/t
[11:34] <merc> is there a way to roll my kernel back to a previous one?
[11:34] <merc> i think a kernel update messed up my wifi and my sound :(
[11:34] <wols_> zappe: ls -al /var/run/cyrus/socket/lmtp
[11:34] <fallingdutch> merc grub should show you the old kernel to boot
[11:34] <fyrestrtr> merc: old kernels are listed in grub, just enable the menu and pick the kernel you know works.
[11:35] <wols_> if that exists (or whatever is set in lmtpunix) then it starts
[11:35] <`paul> my pc has a built in intel vid chipset and an nvidia card i tried installing the drivers for nvidia but after reboot all i see is black screen after ubuntu loads. help pls
[11:35] <merc> sweet.
[11:35] <merc> thanks guys :)
[11:35] <fallingdutch> merc, np
[11:36] <fyrestrtr> `paul: check the error log (/var/log/Xorg.0.log)
[11:36] <zappe> wols_ ls: /var/run/cyrus/socket/lmtp: No such file or directory
[11:36] <wols_> zappe: paste your lmtpunix line
[11:36] <chuchi> hi
[11:37] <mo^> hello. how can i restore my key mapping completely? i played with xmodmap and now something is broken.
[11:37] <zappe> wols_, lmtpunix cmd="lmtpd" listen="/var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp" prefork=1
[11:37] <wols_> zappe: have you restarted cyrus21?
[11:37] <fyrestrtr> mo^: reset it to what your language combo is? xmodmap -e "/usr/share/xmodmoap/xmodmap.us" for example.
[11:38] <zappe> wols_, yeah.. it doesn't create any socket :/
[11:38] <wols_> any syslog output?
[11:39] <zappe> wols_, lmtpd: could not getenv(CYRUS_SERVICE); exiting
[11:40] <merc> :( it only shows 2.6.12 kernels (386, 686, recovery, etc)
[11:41] <zaggynl> Anyone knows some GUI bandwidthshaping tool?
[11:41] <merc> says my audio device doesnt exist when i try to use mplayer, only thing i can think of is kernel change being at fault :(
[11:41] <wols_> zappe: A: Remove all imap, pop, lmtp and sieve lines from [x] inetd.conf and restart [x] inetd. Cyrus is run out of its own "master" process.
[11:42] <wols_> that'S what the cyrus faq says
[11:42] <mo^> fyrestrtr, doesn't work :(. the problem is: i can't use Super_L as mod4 for shortcuts in xubuntu :(
[11:42] <zappe> wols_, yeah but .. that's when the error is in imapd no lmtpd :/
[11:42] <wols_> merc: does other sound stuff work?
[11:43] <wols_> zappe: it cleary says lmtp in the answer. do you have lmtp in inetd.conf?
[11:43] <merc> wols_: nope
[11:43] <merc> it was a long time since i've rebooted, and, im pretty sure i just did an apt-get upgrade and let it do what it wanted..and never rebooted.
[11:44] <THX-1138> #xinerama
[11:44] <THX-1138> !xinerama
[11:44] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[11:44] <PirateHead> I'm having trouble with my ubuntu install.
[11:44] <PirateHead> I can't figure out how to gain root access so that I can install new software.
[11:44] <YazzY> hi guys
[11:44] <fyrestrtr> !sudo > PirateHead
[11:44] <merc> PirateHead: sudo
[11:44] <merc> ai
[11:45] <lupine_85> kdesu/gksudo for GUI stuff
[11:45] <YazzY> which package do i need to install to be able to use the curses libs to run make menuconfig for kernel config ?
[11:45] <PirateHead> Right, I heard about sudo.
[11:45] <zappe> wols_, don't got any inetd conf :/
[11:45] <PirateHead> So, I opened up the command prompt.
[11:45] <fyrestrtr> !kernel > YazzY
[11:45] <PirateHead> And I typed "sudo" and hit enter.
[11:45] <PirateHead> And that didn't work, so I was confused.
[11:45] <lupine_85> you need to "sudo <command>"
[11:45] <wols_> zappe: xinetd.conf then. internet superserver
[11:45] <lupine_85> e.g. sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:45] <fyrestrtr> PirateHead: sudo <somecommandthatneedsroot>
[11:45] <wols_> !tell merc about alsa
[11:45] <RedGhost> sudo su
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[11:46] <lupine_85> heh, sudo su--
[11:46] <lupine_85> do it properly if you're going to do it at all
[11:46] <PirateHead> What does "sudo su" do?
[11:46] <zappe> wols_, no .conf but i have the file
[11:46] <wols_> zappe: what file?
[11:46] <YazzY> fyrestrtr: thanks
[11:46] <fyrestrtr> PirateHead: don't do it, instead use sudo -i
[11:46] <lupine_85> sudo su gives you a root prompt
[11:46] <zappe> wols_, "xinetd"
[11:46] <merc> bah, this assumes im using gnome!
[11:46] <lupine_85> it's a silly hack
[11:46] <PirateHead> For my educatoin, please tell me what each one does and why sudo -i is preferable.,
[11:46] <merc> i always just su - ...
[11:46] <PirateHead> education =D
[11:47] <RedGhost> i would rather have a root prompt than type sudo
[11:47] <fyrestrtr> PirateHead: read the manual :)
[11:47] <RedGhost> each time
[11:47] <RedGhost> sudo su for life
[11:47] <lupine_85> sudo su is basicallyh "run a root shell, as root"
[11:47] <wols_> zappe: sudo grep -i -r lmtp /etc/* |less
[11:47] <lupine_85> what's the point of that?
[11:47] <lupine_85> set a root password, then just su
[11:47] <lupine_85> sudo su - I have no idea about
[11:47] <PirateHead> Okay.
[11:47] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> people. how do i check which vesrion of gnome i m running?
[11:47] <fyrestrtr> just use sudo -i
[11:47] <fyrestrtr> and forget the rest.
[11:47] <zappe> wols_, just a black screen
[11:47] <lupine_85> sudo -i uses sudo to set a root session of some sort
[11:47] <RedGhost> not system->about gnome
[11:47] <RedGhost> hehe
[11:48] <wols_> zappe: that is not possible since you have that in cyrus.conf
[11:48] <lupine_85> IMO that's a fugly hack as well
[11:48] <PirateHead> What I want to do is untar-gz a folder into /usr
[11:48] <PirateHead> so
[11:48] <fyrestrtr> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: system > about gnome
[11:48] <wols_> zappe: don't use the |less then
[11:48] <lupine_85> erm, are you sure you want to do that?
[11:48] <wols_> PirateHead: you don't want to do that even if you think you do
[11:48] <zappe> [root@klaus init.d] # grep -i -r lmtp /etc/*
[11:48] <zappe> Binary file /etc/alternatives/mta-sendmail matches
[11:48] <fyrestrtr> PirateHead: ermm, no. You don't want to do that, even if you really feel like you do. You really don't.
[11:48] <lupine_85> if you do, then "sudo cp <file> /" && cd / && sudo tar -xzvf <file>" - but I repeat, you probably don't want to
[11:49] <YazzY> fyrestrtr: fyi, I needed the libncurses-dev package
[11:49] <PirateHead> Okay, but I don't understand why.
[11:49] <fyrestrtr> lupine_85: then don't tell him.
[11:49] <lupine_85> knowledge is free :)
[11:49] <lupine_85> PirateHead: what is in the tar.gz?
[11:49] <fyrestrtr> lupine_85: so it stupidity.
[11:49] <lupine_85> indeed
[11:49] <Ackeubu_> fallingdutch: i tried  sudo  update-initramfs -u /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-9-386. but i get an error: /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/functions: line 84: [: /Program: binary operator expected
[11:49] <PirateHead> lupine_85: QEMU is
[11:49] <lupine_85> luckily, stupidity is easy to cure
[11:49] <wols_> zappe: you earlier gave me a cyrus.conf line which contains "lmtp" and cyrus.conf is in /etc. so what is it?
[11:49] <lupine_85> PirateHead: any reason you can't use the one in the repos?
[11:49] <fyrestrtr> !qemu
[11:49] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[11:50] <Overand> lupine_85: stupidity isn't easy to cure- ignorance is
[11:50] <lupine_85> and is it a binary or source archive?
[11:50] <PirateHead> It's a binary.
[11:50] <Ackeubu_> fallingdutch: its the same error that i got from  ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure usplash'
[11:50] <lupine_85> compiled for your specific version of ubuntu - e.g. right libc, etc? Or don't you know?
[11:50] <wols_> PirateHead: /usr/local if you really must install it
[11:50] <PirateHead> lupine_85: what is the one in the repos?
[11:50] <lupine_85> !info qemu dapper
[11:50] <Madpilot> !info qemu
[11:50] <PirateHead> wols_: it does install to usr/local
[11:50] <ubotu> qemu: fast processor emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2602 kB, installed size 7360 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 powerpc alpha sparc arm s390)
[11:50] <ubotu> qemu: fast processor emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2602 kB, installed size 7360 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 powerpc alpha sparc arm s390)
[11:51] <Madpilot> heh
[11:51] <fyrestrtr> PirateHead: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[11:51] <lupine_85> if that's a late enough version for you, you're best to use that
[11:51] <lupine_85> personally, if I had to use the tar, I'd untar it to my home dir
[11:51] <PirateHead> So, it comes with Dapper Drake?
[11:51] <Overand> PirateHead: are you aware of the way 'package management' works?
[11:51] <lupine_85> PirateHead: yes
[11:51] <lupine_85> sudo apt-get install qemu will do the trick
[11:51] <Overand> there's an automated system for installing stuff, and it's usually best to use that rather than stuff
[11:52] <Overand> like untarring something into /usr - which is risky
[11:52] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> how to check the version of gnome?
[11:52] <PirateHead> Overand: I'm a linux newbie, and I generally understand what package management means, but only to a certian extent.
[11:52] <lupine_85> !info gnome dapper
[11:52] <ubotu> gnome: The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.12.2.3 (dapper), package size 11 kB, installed size 44 kB
[11:52] <lupine_85> there you go :)
[11:52] <Madpilot> PirateHead, you'll need to enable the Universe repo
[11:52] <wols_> zappe: well?
[11:52] <PirateHead> Does repo stand for repository?
[11:53] <fyrestrtr> yes
[11:53] <YazzY> what would be the command line to quickly check if a particular package is already installed on my system ?
[11:53] <PirateHead> So what is the Universe repo?
[11:53] <Madpilot> !universe
[11:53] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:53] <screechingcat> yazzy : sudo ap-get install <the package>
[11:53] <Madpilot> PirateHead, check the 2nd URL in ubotu's blurb ^^^
[11:53] <wols_> YazzY: dpkg -l <packagename>
[11:53] <YazzY> wols_: thanks
[11:53] <fyrestrtr> YazzY: dpkg -l | grep packagename
[11:54] <Bonaldo2000> Hi! Anyone know what might be the cause if ubuntu plays all your mpeg files out of sync?
[11:54] <Overand> Bonaldo2000: try different media players
[11:54] <fyrestrtr> oh yeah, use wols_ suggestion :)
[11:55] <PirateHead> Doesn't the availability of the sudo command actually make Ubuntu less safe?
[11:55] <Bonaldo2000> Overand: I have tried 4 aleready! They all do the same!
[11:55] <PirateHead> A program could simply put "sudo" in front of every command and have root access without a password.
[11:55] <screechingcat> Bonaldo2000 : then your video is at fault
[11:55] <fyrestrtr> PirateHead: sudo requires a password.
[11:55] <Overand> and that i can't help with =] 
[11:56] <Madpilot> PirateHead, no it couldn't - sudo needs your user password...
[11:56] <PirateHead> So, what is the default root password for Ubuntu?
[11:56] <Bonaldo2000> I saw something about changing the default audio sink? But cant find out how to do it in ububntu 6.06?
[11:56] <Madpilot> PirateHead, there isn't one
[11:56] <lupine_85> there is no root password by default
[11:56] <`paul> ive seen my Xorg.0.log it has this error: Nvidia: No Matching device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:10) found No devices detected... what seem to be the problem?
[11:56] <fyrestrtr> there isn't one. You use sudo and your own password.
[11:56] <lupine_85> hence all the fugly hacks for getting root ;)
[11:56] <Bonaldo2000> screechingcat: no, its the same for ALL videoes...and they dont have the problem in windows...
[11:56] <PirateHead> Okay, I see.
[11:56] <wols_> Bonaldo2000: what is your videocard. sync problems can happen if videocard or cpu are too slow
[11:56] <PirateHead> fugly indeed
[11:56] <fyrestrtr> `paul: you didn't setup nvidia properly, or your other video card isn't disabled.
[11:56] <PirateHead> It just pissed me off that I couldn't get root if I wanted it.
[11:56] <screechingcat> Bonaldo2000: havs u installed all the codes properly
[11:57] <PirateHead> I started looking through the help docs and found nothing but a reference to sudo.
[11:57] <Bonaldo2000> wols_: my videocard is geforce 6600gt...and CPU pentium 4 3.2 ghz...shouldnt be a problem
[11:57] <Madpilot> PirateHead, why do you need root, exactly? Ubuntu is set up around sudo...
[11:57] <lupine_85> PirateHead: you can get root if you want it :)
[11:57] <`paul> fyrestrtr: ive disable my intel onboard card on bios
[11:57] <`paul> fyrestrtr: ive disable my intel onboard card on bios isnt that enough?
[11:57] <lupine_85> you've had about 10 million different ways of getting root quoted at you so far
[11:57] <wols_> Bonaldo2000: are you using nvidia or nv drivers? if you use vesa,it could happen
[11:57] <ipu2> ubotu, upgrade
[11:57] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:57] <lupine_85> even sudo xterm, I guess ;)
[11:57] <fyrestrtr> yes, but pastebin your xorg.conf
[11:57] <PirateHead> Madpilot: I wanted to use the Archive Manager program to untar and ungz a folder into /usr, as per QEMU's insall instructions.
[11:57] <Bonaldo2000> screechingcat: I have followed the guides at ubuntu wiki I think...but dont know how to check if I have done it correctly?
[11:58] <screechingcat> try the guide at ubuntuguide.org
[11:58] <Bonaldo2000> wols_: I am using nvidia
[11:58] <PirateHead> Madpilot: So I tried to run archive manager as root, and it didn't work.
[11:58] <wols_> `paul: no. you also need to make sure ubuntu doesn't use that videocard. even disabled, it's still there. and linux rarely cares about BIOS
[11:58] <Bonaldo2000> screechingcat: ok, ill have a look
[11:58] <fyrestrtr> wols_: what video card do you have?
[11:58] <Madpilot> PirateHead, if QEMU's install instructions say that, there is something wrong w/ them...
[11:58] <wols_> fyrestrtr: nvdia 6600
[11:58] <Madpilot> PirateHead, or they weren't written specifically for Ubuntu...
[11:59] <wols_> fyrestrtr: but I've seen videos lag on a intel integrated graphics card on a P4 2.8
[11:59] <PirateHead> Madpilot: the folder in the tar.gz is called usr, and inside it a folder called local, and so on... so it installs to the correct place.
[11:59] <dutch> morning
[11:59] <visik7> anyone with a dell inspirion 8600 and ipw2100 ? I can't set the channel with iwconfig
[11:59] <PirateHead> I don't really need to ungz to /usr
[11:59] <PirateHead> I could ungz it do its direct location, then move stuff aorund.
[11:59] <PirateHead> But the fact is that I wish I could use the window manager to mess with files in the protected folders.
[11:59] <frogzoo> visik7: sudo iwconfig ?
[11:59] <visik7> yes
[11:59] <visik7> sudo iwconfig
[11:59] <lupine_85> PirateHead: gksudo nautilus
 how do i disable my intel card on linux?
[11:59] <lupine_85> or kdesu konqueror
[12:00] <ipu2> my wireless in dapper didn't work. and i installed breezy and it works in breezy
[12:00] <lupine_85> not the best idea in the world, though
[12:00] <misavola> anyone here able to help w/ ubuntu installation problem?
[12:00] <ipu2> is that a bug?
[12:00] <Bonaldo2000> screechingcat: but it seems that guide uses gstreamer...I have heard xine is better..
[12:00] <fyrestrtr> `paul: what video card do you have?
[12:00] <lupine_85> ipu2: what chipset is it?
[12:00] <frogzoo> misavola: that's what this chan does
[12:00] <misavola> installation freezes up at about 50%
[12:00] <PirateHead> lupine_85: those wms work with sudo, eh?
[12:00] <lotusleaf> misavola: did you check the md5sum of the iso?
[12:00] <Madpilot> PirateHead, what lupine_85 said - with the warning about 'gksudo nautilus' being a really good way to screw up your system...
[12:00] <frogzoo> !fixinstall
[12:00] <ubotu> For a few common problems when installing, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall also make sure you have read !install
[12:00] <misavola> frogzoo: yep, that's what i thought
[12:00] <jj78> Does anybody know about ELE PCI card-reader support?
[12:00] <lupine_85> ...they aren't window managers...
[12:01] <PirateHead> MadPilot: is kdesu konqueror any better?
[12:01] <misavola> did i what where who now?
[12:01] <PirateHead> Madpilot: and does kdesu konqueror require KDE?
[12:01] <frogzoo> misavola: see ubotu above
[12:01] <misavola> n00b here
[12:01] <`paul> fyrestrtr: an intel onboard and an nvidia card
[12:01] <misavola> k
[12:01] <ipu2> lupine_85, i think its netgear w311v2 and texas instruments chipset
[12:01] <misavola> i'll chesk it
[12:01] <Madpilot> PirateHead, I don't run KDE/Konq, but I doubt it - any root access to the whole file tree - esp. graphical - can lead to screwups... personally, I always use CLI & 'sudo mv...'
[12:01] <fyrestrtr> `paul: *what* nvidia card?
[12:02] <lupine_85> ipu2: the driver probably didn't make it into dapper
[12:02] <ipu2> lupine_85, i tried to get it work on dapper for nearly 3 weeks.... and even installed windows xp :o
[12:02] <lupine_85> it might be in edgy
[12:02] <lupine_85> otherwise you can build your own driver
[12:02] <`paul> fyrestrtr: an old geforce 400 i think mx
[12:02] <PirateHead> Madpilot: I will try just using sudo mv, it sounds like the best option to me.
[12:02] <PirateHead> Graphical wms are a pain anyways.
[12:02] <lupine_85> yep, that's the best option :)
[12:02] <ipu2> lupine_85, breezy recognized the wireless card while installing... but dapper did not
[12:02] <fyrestrtr> make sure you use the right driver, your card may be a 'legacy' card.
[12:03] <PirateHead> I just get worried that I'll screw something up.
[12:03] <lupine_85> ipu2: yep, the driver isn't in dapper
[12:03] <PirateHead> Like I say, I'm new to linux, and it often takes me a long time to type things in just right.
[12:03] <lupine_85> maybe try the edgy knot 3 live CD and see if it's in there?
[12:03] <frogzoo> PirateHead: learn to use tab
[12:04] <Madpilot> PirateHead, true, but once you've typed them, you know *exactly* what you're moving... no chance of accidentially drag'n'dropping the wrong file with a graphical file manager running as root
[12:04] <visik7> here it is
[12:04] <PirateHead> frogzoo: tab is my savior.
[12:04] <lupine_85> sudo mv really-lon<TAB> /really/long/pa<TAB> :D
[12:04] <visik7> iwconfig eth1 essid default channel 1
[12:04] <visik7> Error for wireless request "Set Frequency" (8B04) :
[12:04] <visik7>     SET failed on device eth1 ; Operation not supported.
[12:04] <`paul> fyrestrtr: well its not in the legacy list
[12:04] <visik7> from sudo
[12:04] <lupine_85> what it says on the tin
[12:05] <lupine_85> maybe you need to use iwpriv (e.g. old driver?)
[12:05] <fyrestrtr> `paul: paste your xorg.conf file
[12:05] <`paul> fyrestrtr: and it was working few days ago i reformatted my pc and now im havin a hard time installing it
[12:05] <`paul> wait its on another pc T_T
[12:05] <misavola> okay now, why does ACPI need to be switched off?
[12:05] <lupine_85> 'cos it's crap ;)
[12:05] <misavola> :)
[12:05] <`paul> i know under device theres only 2 Identifier and Driver "nvidia"
[12:06] <`paul> i mean two entries
[12:06] <misavola> i already installed kubuntu and had no problems doing so, so why is it that ubuntu should be any different
[12:06] <misavola> (replacing kubuntu w/ ubuntu)
[12:06] <wols_> misavola: cause it's implementation either by hw vendors or linux programmers suck
[12:07] <screechingcat> what does aspid do ?
[12:07] <AbortD> !kde
[12:07] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[12:07] <misavola> i mean in the installation way
[12:08] <misavola> i know what the difference between kde and gnome is
[12:08] <misavola> (basically) ;)
[12:09] <c0nfidencal> hey
[12:09] <screechingcat> kde is spel K-D-E and gnome is spelt - G-N-O-M-E
[12:09] <SaintN> all kde appz start with a k :P
[12:09] <mildrew> I'm having a problem with firefox crashing (and all the windows disappearing)
[12:09] <c0nfidencal> u know those websites where are videos
[12:09] <c0nfidencal> and it plays with that windows media player
[12:09] <c0nfidencal> how can i make it work under linux?
[12:09] <mildrew> it happens even when I've got no extensions installed
[12:09] <c0nfidencal> btw i use vlc player, installed vlc plugin for firefox - doesnt help
[12:09] <c0nfidencal> any ideas?
[12:09] <screechingcat> coondencial : u cant
[12:09] <`paul> ok here is my question how do i know the bus ID of my video card?
[12:09] <wols_> c0nfidencal: most of those websites use a flashplayer I thought?
[12:09] <c0nfidencal> nope
[12:09] <misavola> so gnome has some beef w/ ACPI?
[12:09] <screechingcat> the porno ones use wmv
[12:10] <c0nfidencal> nope
[12:10] <c0nfidencal> gamespot too
[12:10] <c0nfidencal> ^^
[12:10] <c0nfidencal> that vlc plugin just shows
[12:10] <c0nfidencal> (no picture)
[12:10] <c0nfidencal> instead of video
[12:10] <mildrew> it crashes when I'm holding down the Tab key to move between links (i'm navigating only using keyboard, not the mouse)
[12:10] <wols_> c0nfidencal: if it has DRM, you can't without DRM w32codecs for mplayer and its ffox plugin should work I think
[12:10] <screechingcat> WMV WILL NOT woek in Linux
[12:10] <c0nfidencal> screechingcat,
[12:10] <c0nfidencal> it works :p
[12:10] <c0nfidencal> vlc plays it
[12:10] <screechingcat> HOW ?
[12:10] <screechingcat> really ?
[12:10] <Madpilot> !enter
[12:10] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[12:10] <c0nfidencal> dunno
[12:11] <c0nfidencal> it just works, yes
[12:11] <wols_> screechingcat: google win32codecs
[12:11] <screechingcat> w32codecs i have
[12:11] <screechingcat> but wmv is a real problem. streaming wise
[12:11] <wols_> mpalyer could play wmv for years now. the trouble is wmv DRM. that you can't play
[12:11] <c0nfidencal> screechingcat, sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-esd <- plays all ^^
[12:12] <c0nfidencal> bah...
[12:12] <screechingcat> i have VLC but what is this esd plugin ?
[12:12] <c0nfidencal> i dont know
[12:12] <wols_> screechingcat: and you needed to be on x86 since it used some windows DLLS IIRC
[12:12] <c0nfidencal> screechingcat,
[12:12] <screechingcat> yes that too. i have an intel p4
[12:12] <wols_> screechingcat: gnome douns manager. aka "shit"
[12:12] <wols_> *sound
[12:12] <jj78> Enlightenment Sound Daemon.
[12:12] <c0nfidencal> "VLC media player for Ubuntu Linux"
[12:12] <c0nfidencal> You need to check that you have a "universe" mirror in your /etc/apt/sources.list.
[12:12] <c0nfidencal>    % sudo apt-get update
[12:12] <c0nfidencal>    % sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-esd
[12:12] <wols_> !dmix
[12:12] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:13] <c0nfidencal> bah, so there is no way to get "wmp" videos work? :X
[12:13] <misavola> will disabling ACPI disable it permanently?
[12:13] <screechingcat> c)nfidencial : dude i have everythin installed. ur the one who asked the question
[12:13] <marcin_ant> hi guys, I would like to buy webcam but I would like to choose model which is supported
[12:13] <c0nfidencal> screechingcat,
[12:13] <c0nfidencal> u said wmv doesnt work
[12:13] <c0nfidencal> it works for me with vlc
[12:13] <c0nfidencal> :X
[12:13] <marcin_ant> could you advise me which one should I order to make sure that it will work in ubuntu?
[12:13] <`paul> how do i find the bus id of my video card if i have two of them?
[12:13] <screechingcat> nah i said streaming wmv dosent work
[12:14] <c0nfidencal> ah :(
[12:14] <c0nfidencal> too bad :P
[12:14] <screechingcat> marcin_ant : search the wiki. for supported webcams
[12:14] <SaintN> screechingcat - same here mate. Cant stream em in firefox.... no idea what the fix is
[12:14] <marcin_ant> screechingcat: I already did
[12:14] <screechingcat> SaintN : there is no fix
[12:15] <marcin_ant> screechingcat: but iformations are bad organized and they are often outdated
[12:15] <c0nfidencal> btw
[12:15] <c0nfidencal> that vlc plugins
[12:15] <screechingcat> marcin_ant : search the forums
[12:15] <c0nfidencal> gives me sound :P
[12:15] <c0nfidencal> plugin*
[12:15] <marcin_ant> screechingcat: and I cannot decide which one shoud I trust :(
[12:15] <c0nfidencal> @ firefox
[12:15] <screechingcat> marcin_ant : just search the forums and see
[12:15] <screechingcat> ubuntuforums.org
[12:16] <hockyhair> what can i use to make applications (openbox, kicker) transparent
[12:16] <marcin_ant> screechingcat: for example Logitech Webcam messenger should work - but I can see that there is only new release of this cam in sales
[12:17] <screechingcat> marcin_ant : u should really search the forums or the wiki, cozz i kno nothing about webcams
[12:17] <marcin_ant> screechingcat: so.. it's name is still "messenger" but while it's new release then I can have different electronics...
[12:18] <Overand> marcin_ant: you can always check what the device IDs itself as
[12:18] <Overand> lsusb etc
[12:18] <marcin_ant> Overand: but I can do this only when I got this webcam on my desk
[12:19] <marcin_ant> Overand: but I cannot buy something that will not work
[12:19] <Overand> oh, you *can* buy something that won't work
[12:19] <frogzoo> would fat32 or ntfs be faster for emulation with qemu ?
[12:19] <Overand> you just don't want to =] 
[12:19] <marcin_ant> Overand: right ;)
[12:19] <screechingcat> there was a forum thread EXACLTY like this. look it up
[12:19] <Overand> frogzoo: if 'qemu' is involved, 'faster' isn't going to be an option
[12:19] <SaintN> lol
[12:19] <frogzoo> Overand: hence the question...
[12:20] <SaintN> use ntfs frogzoo
[12:20] <frogzoo> SaintN: thx, will give it a try
[12:20] <Overand> i actualy suggest fat32
[12:20] <Overand> that way you can mount the image under ubuntu and toy with it
[12:20] <Overand> which is doable with ntfs, but it's trickier
[12:20] <THX-1138> nice tip
[12:20] <SaintN> true
[12:21] <hockyhair> don't ignore me :(
[12:21] <THX-1138> hockyhair - All are here to help.
[12:21] <AbortD> is there different desktops than gnome and kde?
[12:21] <screechingcat> xfce
[12:21] <Overand> hockyhair: i didn't see you ask a question
[12:21] <hockyhair> so setting transparency in openbox/klicker, what can i use
[12:21] <screechingcat> fluxbox
[12:22] <hockyhair> "hello, what apps are recommend for setting transparency with openbox"
[12:22] <AbortD> where do you fiind them?
[12:22] <Overand> I don't think X natively supports 'real' transparency
[12:22] <screechingcat> AbortD : xubunut.org
[12:22] <hockyhair> fake trans is fine
[12:22] <screechingcat> AbortD : or sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[12:23] <Overand> hockyhair: i believe that 'fake trans' relies on a specific application supporting it
[12:23] <THX-1138> openbox - erm - xcompmgr with translucency. - compiz and openbox are a mystery.
[12:23] <Overand> but0 i don't know the details here
[12:23] <screechingcat> AbortD : sorry that should be xubuntu.org
[12:23] <AbortD> why aptitude?
[12:23] <AbortD> why not apt-get?
[12:23] <screechingcat> because if u want to remove xfce then aptitude will remove all the dependencies and orphaned pakceges
[12:24] <screechingcat> which apt-get will not do
[12:24] <hockyhair> THX-1138: what now?
[12:24] <bahr> Can someone please help me to change my locales?
[12:24] <Overand> bahr: run 'locales'
[12:24] <fyrestrtr> !locales > bahr
[12:24] <hockyhair> i have xcompmgr but it doesnt play nice
[12:24] <bahr> Overand: yes but when I run locale -a I only got utf8 locales I need ISO8859-15 or ISO8859-1 locales
[12:25] <Overand> bahr: what did the bot have to say to you?
[12:25] <screechingcat> !locale
[12:25] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[12:25] <AbortD> i do not need xfce
[12:25] <screechingcat> then what do u need ?
[12:25] <hockyhair> i think its cause of fglrx .. is there an alternative to xcompmgr?
[12:26] <Shadowpillar> night
[12:27] <screechingcat> what is ACPID and can i turn it off from booting without craping up my computer ?
[12:28] <LazyboY^> is there anyone that can help me setup xgl?
[12:28] <hockyhair> THX-1138: any idea?
[12:29] <marcin_ant> !webcam
[12:29] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[12:29] <WhiteDeth> LazyboY: Go to #ubuntu-xgl
[12:29] <fyrestrtr> LazyboY^: #ubuntu-xgl
[12:29] <LazyboY^> thanks
[12:29] <WhiteDeth> Can anyone help me with this?
[12:29] <WhiteDeth> Im installing Ubuntu
[12:29] <WhiteDeth> but during the install it gives me this error - "The test of the file system with type fat16 in partition #1 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) found uncorrected errors."
[12:29] <WhiteDeth> whats that supposed to mean?
[12:30] <hockyhair> i believe you should correct some errors on your scsi partition
[12:30] <WhiteDeth> what errors? :\
[12:30] <hockyhair> fsck the drive
[12:30] <hockyhair> unmount first
[12:30] <screechingcat> dot literally fsck it though
[12:31] <`paul> how would i know if my nvidia card belongs to the legacy or latest drivers?
[12:31] <WhiteDeth> the / drive that im installing it on is already formatted as NTFS earlier, would that be why it's doing this?
[12:31] <ipu2> ubotu tor
[12:31] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.0.16-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 608 kB, installed size 1120 kB
[12:32] <nrdb> In a GTK2 app can I change the order in which the <tab> cycles though the widgets?
[12:32] <fyrestrtr> `paul: look it up at the nvidia website
[12:33] <WhiteDeth> Ubuntu runs on ext3 right?
[12:33] <wols_> yes
[12:33] <screechingcat> or rieserfs
[12:33] <lupine_85> by default
[12:33] <WhiteDeth> should I be creating a Logical partition then?
[12:33] <lupine_85> makes no difference
[12:33] <WhiteDeth> as my / partition?
[12:33] <WhiteDeth> oh
[12:34] <lupine_85> generally no, unless you expect to be using 5+ partitions
[12:34] <wols_> primary or logical, linux doesn't care
[12:34] <WhiteDeth> im using over 5.
[12:34] <screechingcat> how many ?
[12:34] <WhiteDeth> I think 6 total
[12:35] <lupine_85> then you'll need at least some to be logical :)
[12:35] <fyrestrtr> you can only have 4 primary partitions.
[12:35] <WhiteDeth> moment of truth.
[12:35] <WhiteDeth> installing Ubuntu now :D
[12:35] <screechingcat> enjoy
[12:35] <WhiteDeth> yeah, thats the problem I faced while trying to install OSX86
[12:36] <WhiteDeth> GAH! AGAIN ERROR?!?@
[12:36] <screechingcat> what's it say ?
[12:36] <WhiteDeth> "The test of the file system with type fat16 in partition #1 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) found uncorrected errors.
[12:36] <hockyhair> does anyone know what dev psp 2.71 uses, ive tried sba1 sba2 sdb1
[12:36] <WhiteDeth> Go Back or Continue?
[12:36] <screechingcat> hey how'd he get 3 0's for the location ?
[12:37] <screechingcat> isnt it normally 2 ?
[12:37] <WhiteDeth> 3 0's definately here.
[12:37] <WhiteDeth> so what should I do? Continue or Go back and do something else? :\
[12:37] <wols_> WhiteDeth: where are you installing it? what device name? have you made a partition yet?
[12:38] <WhiteDeth> wols_ I have ONE hard drive. That HD has many partitions, with XP and Vista on 2 seperate ones. Im installing Ubuntu over the Vista partition.
[12:38] <WhiteDeth> I've already formatted it as ext3 through this partitioner system via Ubuntu. And I have 3GB of swap space as well.
[12:38] <zaggynl> internet explorer for linux :D great now I can test while using linux
[12:38] <falcon3> positive decision
[12:38] <hockyhair> that's a lot of swap
[12:39] <WhiteDeth> well I had 3GB of unallocated space...so I thought I might as well use it -_-
[12:39] <hockyhair> internet explorer for linux? lol are you kidding?
[12:39] <screechingcat> how much is swap recommended ?
[12:39] <hockyhair> half your ram
[12:39] <WhiteDeth> anyway, so what do I do now?
[12:39] <wols_> WhiteDeth: have you any fat16 partitions on that disk? what type is the partition? is it 0x83?
[12:39] <wols_> hockyhair: the amount of your ram
[12:39] <zaggynl> hockyhair, http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/index-en.html
[12:39] <zaggynl> I'm not :D
[12:40] <hockyhair> wols_: every source ive found says half
[12:40] <screechingcat> i have 512mb ram. i installed a 1 gig swap
[12:40] <WhiteDeth> wols_ I have FAT32 partitions, NTFS partitions, none else. Dont know about 0x83.
[12:40] <SaintN> sources Ive found say 1.5 to twice the amount of ram :P of course thats just stupid
[12:40] <falcon3> 0x83 is ext3 iirc
[12:40] <lupine_85> never use it all but hard drive space is cheap
[12:40] <WhiteDeth> oh
[12:40] <screechingcat> it doesnt hurt to have extra space lyin around !!
[12:41] <wols_> WhiteDeth: your partition need to be type 0x83 for Ubuntu normally
[12:41] <falcon3> or ext2
[12:41] <WhiteDeth> in that case I have formatted my Vista partition as ext3.
[12:41] <falcon3> WhiteDeth: pick ext3
[12:41] <WhiteDeth> Ive already formatted my Vista partition as ext3.
[12:41] <lupine_85> in that case, you want to abort
[12:41] <falcon3> WhiteDeth: good
[12:41] <WhiteDeth> via the ubuntu installer.
[12:41] <wols_> SaintN: I have a book that talks about 128MB of swap or so. of course it's from '95...
[12:41] <Lunar_Lamp> vista runs on ext3!? :-D
[12:41] <WhiteDeth> so wtf is still going wrong :\
[12:41] <lupine_85> unless you don't want vista ant more
[12:41] <WhiteDeth> I dont.
[12:41] <WhiteDeth> DIE VISTA DIE?!?
[12:41] <screechingcat> now install
[12:41] <WhiteDeth> :)
[12:41] <lupine_85> then delete the vista partition and create a new one
[12:41] <WhiteDeth> I DID install, the error I pasted came up AFTER that.
[12:41] <WhiteDeth> lupine: That's what I did.
[12:41] <hockyhair> so does anyone know what dev psp uses?
[12:42] <frogzoo> wols_: lappie or server ? how much phys ram ? main use ?
[12:42] <falcon3> WhiteDeth: it's pronounced "Die Vista, Die" :)
[12:42] <lupine_85> ah, ok
[12:42] <SaintN> nice wols_ :) 128mb - keep up the good work answering all the questions too btw :D
[12:42] <hockyhair> it changed from 1.5 to 2.7+
[12:42] <hockyhair> not /dev/sda1 anymore :/
[12:42] <WhiteDeth> falcon3: There's no way im using proper grammar for Microsoft.
[12:42] <screechingcat> quit the installer, restart, parttion again and try again
[12:42] <user42> all your base, your base your base, all your base... are belong to us.
[12:42] <screechingcat> the live cd installer is very crashy
[12:42] <WhiteDeth> oh
[12:42] <falcon3> WhiteDeth: it was more a Simpsons Reference where SideShow Bob says "Die Bart, Die"
[12:42] <WhiteDeth> okay, ill try that now.
[12:42] <frogzoo> user42: even base 16 ?
[12:42] <WhiteDeth> ahh
[12:42] <user42> heh...
[12:42] <WhiteDeth> what season/episode is that?
[12:42] <falcon3> WhiteDeth: saying it as "the bart, the"
[12:42] <lupine_85> so is partition one of sda the vista partition?
[12:43] <lupine_85> s/vista/linux now, I guess
[12:43] <hockyhair> brb
[12:43] <WhiteDeth> I found this website the other day that has every single simpsons episode online...
[12:43] <WhiteDeth> you can watch em online. Pretty cool.
[12:43] <WhiteDeth> Highly illegal, still cool though.
[12:43] <falcon3> The Simpsons S09E22 "Cape Feare"
[12:43] <screechingcat> !ubuntu-offtopic
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-offtopic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:44] <WhiteDeth> while restarting it said "Stopping RAID monitoring services....failed!"
[12:44] <WhiteDeth> wtf.
[12:44] <screechingcat> yeah it says that for me too
[12:44] <screechingcat> take no notice
[12:44] <WhiteDeth> oh phew.
[12:45] <WhiteDeth> *sigh* Why is anything other than Windows so hard to install? :\
[12:46] <fyrestrtr> OS X is easy to install :)
[12:46] <WhiteDeth> About the only thing I liked about Vista...it installs pretty much without a glitch.
[12:46] <WhiteDeth> Hell no! I installed OSX86, was a pain.
[12:46] <fyrestrtr> obviously, I mean installing it on proper, Apple hardware.
[12:46] <WhiteDeth> Vista? You have a partition...fine, it'll do EVERYTHING else for you.
[12:46] <jc-denton> lol
[12:46] <fyrestrtr> and what is the problem with installing Linux?
[12:46] <jc-denton> install windows
[12:47] <jc-denton> then u have to look for all the crappy drivers
[12:47] <zaggynl> and then you get blue screens
[12:47] <jc-denton> then install the updates service packs
[12:47] <WhiteDeth> I've been trying for an hour, and it keeps giving me errors after errors...thats the problem with installing Linux.
[12:47] <frogzoo> WhiteDeth: installs without a glitch - you mean like ubuntu ?
[12:47] <WhiteDeth> Naw dude, you only get blue screens and the likes with old unsupported hardware.
[12:47] <Juhaz> it's funny how people always take their experiences for worst and best case install and assume it's the norm
[12:47] <WhiteDeth> My laptop's beyond fully supported.
[12:47] <fyrestrtr> WhiteDeth: what is the hardware you are trying to install on, and is there another operating system on it?
[12:48] <WhiteDeth> fyrestrtr: Yep, Windows XP and Vista. It's a Dell Inspiron 9400.
[12:48] <fyrestrtr> WhiteDeth: how big of a hard disk?
[12:48] <frogzoo> Juhaz: it's called inexperience
[12:48] <WhiteDeth> well...no more Vista seeing as how I deleted that partition.
[12:48] <WhiteDeth> fyrestrtr: 100GB 7200RPM :)
[12:49] <WhiteDeth> nooooo@
[12:49] <WhiteDeth> Vista sucks.
[12:49] <WhiteDeth> BIG.
[12:49] <frogzoo> ChickenTalons: [k] qemu
[12:49] <WhiteDeth> Ive never been this disappointed in my life, heh.
[12:49] <ChickenTalons> i actually figured out how to get a legit copy of windows w/o paying for it - found an old busted dell laptop, used winxp home oem
[12:49] <lewix> 127.0.0.0 port:637 service:Ipp
[12:49] <lewix> what's that
[12:49] <fyrestrtr> WhiteDeth: the problem with Vista (which I doubt you know) is that overtakes your mbr in such a way, that its a hassle to install anything else on it (even Windows -- unless you format the disk). So, for you, I suggest doing a manual partition, using the now-vacant free space of Vista.
[12:49] <ChickenTalons> i knew my lagger roomate never reg'd it
[12:50] <wols_> WhiteDeth: It's a beta. from MS. of a pretty totally new product. DoN't you know the 3 versions rule?
[12:50] <fyrestrtr> ChickenTalons: that's still not legal.
[12:50] <frogzoo> WhiteDeth: how old's this machine ? ide or sata ? is there a bios update avilable ?
[12:50] <ChickenTalons> fyrestrtr, absolute nonsense - It reg'd and validated fine and is perfectly legal to do
[12:50] <kemik> ugh
[12:50] <kemik> Uberpussy is the first tab hit
[12:50] <WhiteDeth> frogzoo: 3 months old maybe? SATA, and bios updates every 1-2 months.
[12:50] <kemik> when trying "ub<Tab>" .. instead of ubotu...
[12:51] <frogzoo> WhiteDeth: you've tried disabling acpi ?
[12:51] <ChickenTalons> fyrestrtr, as long as im not using it on more than one computer at a time, which im not b/c the original system has ceased to be
[12:51] <WhiteDeth> fyrestrtr: Thats what im planning to do. Using the vacant space now to install Ubuntu. It kept giving me errors earlier, im gonna try again now.
[12:51] <fyrestrtr> ChickenTalons: you are telling me, that you know more about Microsoft licensing, than my girlfriend that has been working 6 years in Microsoft dealing directly with this issue?
[12:51] <WhiteDeth> frogzoo: Nope, what's that and where from? :\
[12:51] <frogzoo> !fixinstall > WhiteDeth
[12:51] <ChickenTalons> fyrestrtr, yes I am
[12:51] <fyrestrtr> ChickenTalons: OEM licenses are only transferrable with the hardware.
[12:51] <ChickenTalons> fyrestrtr, not according to MS licensing.
[12:51] <wols_> fyrestrtr: depends on jurisdiction. not in germany for example
[12:52] <fyrestrtr> ChickenTalons: lol, great. Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:52] <wols_> and has this OEM license ever tested in court in the US (not that anyone would want to get sued by MS)
[12:52] <frogzoo> ChickenTalons: local laws override conflicts with licensing
[12:52] <acabe> kjgihoiuoui
[12:52] <WhiteDeth> "from the installer's prompt" - where's the installer's boot prompt? :\
[12:52] <acabe> iugu
[12:53] <kemik> hrmpfh
[12:53] <frogzoo> WhiteDeth: the prompt from when the install starts up
[12:53] <kemik> where's feature list of edyg and screenshots and goodies ?
[12:53] <fyrestrtr> WhiteDeth: the one called boot:
[12:53] <frogzoo> !edgy
[12:53] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[12:53] <fyrestrtr> kemik: on the wiki :)
[12:53] <frogzoo> kemik: it will be in the wiki
[12:53] <USER020660> heyh
[12:53] <USER020660> hows everybody doin?
[12:53] <USER020660> shitheads
[12:54] <WhiteDeth> frogzoo: You mean the place where it gives me 30s to choose what I want to do with the live CD?
[12:54] <Lunar_Lamp> !schedule
[12:54] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[12:54] <frogzoo> USER020660: we play nice in here
[12:54] <frogzoo> USER020660: not my choice, but that's the rule
[12:54] <USER020660> you should all be ashamed of yourselves you people fuckin disgusting
[12:54] <fyrestrtr> WhiteDeth: if you bother to read that screen, it will tell you that if you press any key, the timer is disabled :)
[12:54] <frogzoo> WhiteDeth: exactly
[12:54] <frogzoo> !language
[12:54] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:54] <WhiteDeth> lol. Aight, ill restart.
[12:54] <USER020660> i wish you all drowned in your shitty assholes
[12:54] <frogzoo> USER020660: peeps get booted for obscene language
[12:54] <USER020660> fucking sons of bitches
[12:55] <kemik> was hoping to get one page with info
[12:55] <USER020660> fuck you all slutty crapbones
[12:55] <Lunar_Lamp> :-( looks like i won't be edgy-fying for a while; the next version comes back 2 weeks after i go back to uni; can't risk even a day of downtime on my laptop there
[12:55] <kemik> not the release schedule, or the dev. process
[12:55] <WhiteDeth> USER020660 = Microsoft fanboy it seems.
[12:55] <WhiteDeth> maybe even Billy Gaties himself.
[12:55] <fyrestrtr> WhiteDeth: don't feel the trolls, please.
[12:55] <frogzoo> no, just ADDS
[12:55] <USER020660> your nothin but a bunch of perverted asslicking cocksuckers
[12:55] <USER020660> fucuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccccccccccckkk
[12:55] <brosnan> !help
[12:55] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[12:56] <brosnan> help!
[12:56] <frogzoo> oh noes, USER020660, how you've gone & done it
[12:56] <WhiteDeth> WHOA.
[12:56] <brosnan> ubotu: help!
[12:57] <WhiteDeth> okay so I tried doing that linux acpi = off thing
[12:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:57] <WhiteDeth> it came up saying "Could not find kernel image: Linux"
[12:57] <WhiteDeth> wtf??
[12:57] <fyrestrtr> WhiteDeth: its linux not Linux
[12:57] <WhiteDeth> yeah, I typed it out properly just as on the wiki.
[12:57] <johns^> q
[12:57] <fyrestrtr> did you type it as linux or Linux ?
[12:57] <johns^> sorry
[12:58] <WhiteDeth> linux
[12:58] <WhiteDeth> I typed linux acpi=off
[12:58] <WhiteDeth> still same error :\
[12:58] <RedGhost> You know in all the time ive used Ubuntu on and off I never once tried any of the games
[12:58] <RedGhost> they are pretty good
[12:58] <RedGhost> connect four, yahtzee, worms
[12:58] <RedGhost> hehe
[12:58] <fyrestrtr> WhiteDeth: are you using the alternate cd?
[12:59] <frogzoo> minesweeper
[12:59] <WhiteDeth> nope, live cd downloaded directly from Ubuntu's main download page.
[12:59] <frogzoo> WhiteDeth: oops
[12:59] <fyrestrtr> you need the alternate cd.
[12:59] <johns^> image name could be 'live'
[12:59] <johns^> live acpi=off
[12:59] <RedGhost> Just download the DVD
[12:59] <RedGhost> it has everything on it
[12:59] <WhiteDeth> :(
[12:59] <WhiteDeth> I cant, 4.7GB on a 256k line = murder.
[12:59] <RedGhost> oh:z
[01:00] <unfknblvbl> lol
[01:00] <WhiteDeth> so...what am I doing then? :\
[01:00] <fyrestrtr> download the alternate install cd.
[01:00] <RedGhost> its 3.2gb
[01:00] <ito> ola
[01:00] <WhiteDeth> 3.2GB is still murder.
[01:00] <WhiteDeth> what the hell is the point of them linking to the alternate install cd then??
[01:00] <WhiteDeth> if it doesnt even work?!
[01:00] <RedGhost> took me  5 hours to dl o;
[01:00] <WhiteDeth> *live cd
[01:00] <RedGhost> i used the text based installer not the live cd
[01:00] <lotusleaf> what apps depend on the Gconf daemon? I get a warning when I run "galeon-config-tool --install-schemas" without quotes to fix Galeon
[01:00] <RedGhost> had to create a few new partitions set some stuff of
[01:01] <WhiteDeth> im too chicken to use that.
[01:01] <RedGhost> its not hard
[01:01] <lastnode> WhiteDeth, the livecd has a gui installer by default because most new users prefer that.
[01:01] <WhiteDeth> yes, and im trying to use that except it keeps giving me the same damn error,.
[01:01] <RedGhost> all the articles and reviews said dual boot or even functioning Linux on this laptop wasnt possible
[01:01] <RedGhost> I got dual boot, full drivers, works flawlessly
[01:01] <RedGhost> just use the more advanceinstaller o:
[01:01] <wols_> RedGhost: dual boot is possible on any PC
[01:02] <wols_> as long as it has a IBM PC compatible BIOS that is
[01:02] <RedGhost> They said once grube wrote to the MBR it messed up.
[01:02] <RedGhost> grub
[01:02] <fyrestrtr> there is no such thing as a IBM PC "compatible" BIOS :)
[01:02] <wols_> fyrestrtr: compaq would say otherwise :P
[01:03] <wols_> they paid a MILLION DOLLARS for it
[01:03] <fyrestrtr> oh yeah, right ... sure ... that's makes it better.
[01:03] <WhiteDeth> im gonna check the cd for errors
[01:04] <Lunar_Lamp> ok, stupid question here, in Xchat when i want to pm someone normally i just "/msg nick MESSAGE", but how do i open a window and then pm them, just a normal pm window, not a dcc chat?
[01:04] <Chousuke> fyrestrtr: what are those compatible BIOSes called then?
[01:05] <frogzoo> fyrestrtr: there is a standard api for the bios however
[01:05] <RedGhost> right click their name
[01:05] <RedGhost> click "private chat"
[01:05] <Lunar_Lamp> i don't have that option :-s
[01:05] <WhiteDeth> why not just use Chatzilla for Firefox?
[01:05] <Happu_> Hello. How do I unmount cdrom driver? It won't open.
[01:05] <RedGhost> apt-get install xchat-gnome
[01:06] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> people. how to get the full update list?i
[01:06] <Lunar_Lamp> i have: open dialogue window, send a file, operator actions, user info
[01:06] <frogzoo> Happu_: close processes accessing driver - then 'eject'
[01:06] <Lunar_Lamp> WhiteDeth, because i use opera not firefox, heh
[01:06] <WhiteDeth> ouch.
[01:06] <RedGhost> open dialogue window
[01:06] <RedGhost> then
[01:06] <jazzrocker> ick
[01:06] <WhiteDeth> yuck heh.
[01:06] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i need help guys. i cant get the full update list. what to do
[01:06] <jazzrocker> sudo apt-get install xchat2
[01:06] <RedGhost> Opera is a good browser.
[01:06] <jazzrocker> xchat-gnome is teh suxors
[01:06] <Happu_> frogzoo: I need to change CD for setup :( If I close setup I can't install the application :/
[01:07] <RedGhost> xchat gnome is better imo
[01:07] <jazzrocker> ?
[01:07] <RedGhost> more lightweight
[01:07] <jazzrocker> completely lacking features because it's beta and they're not implemented yet, fewer preference choices... how is that better?
[01:07] <Lunar_Lamp> RedGhost, just testing with you, but that seems to create a DCC chat not a nomral chate
[01:07] <jazzrocker> lol, if you're after "lightweight" use ircii
[01:07] <frogzoo> Happu_: just 'eject' or push the eject button
[01:07] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guys please help an innocent guy
[01:07] <Lunar_Lamp> xchat is good, i don't like xchat-gnome
[01:07] <RedGhost> smaller file size, less features, all the visual options I need
[01:07] <RedGhost> its fine for me
[01:07] <Happu_> foglight: it says that umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[01:08] <Hoxzer> !jack
[01:08] <ubotu> jack: Rip and encode CDs with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.1-14 (dapper), package size 121 kB, installed size 572 kB
[01:08] <jazzrocker> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, please just ask your question
[01:08] <Hoxzer> !jackd
[01:08] <ubotu> jackd: JACK Audio Connection Kit (server and example clients). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.100.0-4 (dapper), package size 95 kB, installed size 352 kB
[01:08] <Happu_> I have 2 other CD drives but they aren't mounted for some reason...
[01:08] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> jazzrocker: i cant seem to get the full udate list
[01:08] <janitor_x> Happu_, try sudo umount /media/cdrom0 ... then eject
[01:08] <jazzrocker> don't ask me, ask the channel. and that's not a question
[01:08] <Happu_> janitor_x: tried already it doesn't work :(
[01:09] <lapaquita> holas
[01:09] <lapaquita> k aceis subnormales
[01:09] <lapaquita> jajajajjaja
[01:09] <lapaquita> jajajjaa
[01:09] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> people i m not getting the full update list  ? can you please suggest how
[01:09] <janitor_x> Happu_,  could be a jammed drive?
[01:09] <calebt> i can't sleep, damn it, 24 hours without sleep, i hate my insomnia :-(
[01:09] <fyrestrtr> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: can you be a bit more specific?
[01:09] <lapaquita> beachh
[01:09] <RedGhost> calebt heh I missed class today because of insomnia
[01:09] <ChickenTalons> calebt, if I might make a suggestion - valerian root tea
[01:09] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> see i want to update my system. but it doesnt show the kernel updates.
[01:10] <RedGhost> its 4am now, woke up at midnight
[01:10] <frogzoo> calebt: go do vista installs repeatedly - under qemu
[01:10] <Happu_> janitor_x: dunno. I can read it after all...
[01:10] <calebt> good idea 4chicken
[01:10] <fyrestrtr> maybe you system is already up to date.
[01:10] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> no i m damn sure it is not
[01:10] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> its  just a fersh ubuntu install
[01:10] <calebt> lol
[01:10] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> earlier it was shwoing the list. not it not :(
[01:10] <Happu_> janitor_x: it would help if the other driver would mount.
[01:10] <fyrestrtr> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: earlier when?
[01:11] <Happu_> janitor_x: but for somereason I don't know how to mount it
[01:11] <janitor_x> Happu_, then try to mount it...
[01:11] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i was messing with the synaptic repos
[01:11] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> now is there any way i can check the sources.list file?
[01:11] <lupine_85> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: apt-get update followed by apt-get dist-upgrade would do it
[01:11] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok thanks
[01:11] <lupine_85> if your repos are broken, fix them
[01:11] <fyrestrtr> !source-o-matic
[01:11] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:11] <Happu_> janitor_x: should I try sudo mount /media/cdrom2/ ?
[01:11] <janitor_x> try sudo mount /dev/cdrom#
[01:11] <fyrestrtr> you need that PunjabiFLOYDIAN :)
[01:12] <janitor_x> Happu_, if the cdrom2 shows on the media directory.. then you can use that command
[01:12] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> still not showing? how can i edit the sources.list file ?
[01:12] <lupine_85> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:13] <Happu_> janitor_x: mount: can't find /dev/cdrom# in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:13] <WhiteDeth> *sigh* trying the install one more time...
[01:13] <RedGhost> sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:13] <RedGhost> O:
[01:13] <Happu_> janitor_x: Ok so the problem is that I don't have the cdrom in fstab... Can you tell me how to add it there?
[01:14] <Happu_> janitor_x: and I tried to replace # with numbers but it didn't wokr.
[01:14] <janitor_x> Happu_, change the # to the number assignment of your drive :)
[01:14] <calebt> somebody have another suggest to resolve my insomnia?
[01:14] <janitor_x> 0 or 1 or 2
[01:14] <WhiteDeth> calebt: get laid.
[01:14] <WhiteDeth> it helps.
[01:14] <bionoid> calebt: drugs.
[01:14] <WhiteDeth> seriously.
[01:14] <fyrestrtr> Happu_: its /media/cdrom0
[01:15] <RedGhost> I solve it by programming for 12 hours untill i pass out but the easiest way
[01:15] <calebt> marijuana?
[01:15] <WhiteDeth> get laid or drugs, yep.
[01:15] <RedGhost> is to just smoke a joint
[01:15] <ChickenTalons> calebt, that wont help you sleep at all
[01:15] <Happu_> fyrestrtr: yes it's the first one. I need second one.
[01:15] <ChickenTalons> at least youll have a good time awake
[01:15] <jazzrocker> RedGhost, ahhh, that explains alot
[01:15] <RedGhost> Smoke a bowl or two and watch some t.v. and you'll be out before you know it
[01:15] <Happu_> janitor_x: it says the same with every number so I guess I need to add them in fstab or mtab?
[01:15] <RedGhost> works for me
[01:15] <jazzrocker> gah, a lot, two words
[01:16] <WhiteDeth> no dude
[01:16] <WhiteDeth> GET LAID.
[01:16] <WhiteDeth> its the only way for guaranteed sleep.
[01:16] <RedGhost> I don't get that want to sleep feeling after sex
[01:16] <janitor_x> Happu_, i havent tried doing that yet... my system always automatically detects my drives :)
[01:16] <RedGhost> I just always want a shower :\
[01:16] <WhiteDeth> RedGhost: Dirty girlfriend/wife? :\
[01:17] <RedGhost> I don't like being full of sweat
[01:17] <RedGhost> call me crazy
[01:17] <fyrestrtr> WhiteDeth: RedGhost take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:17] <WhiteDeth> I love it.
[01:17] <WhiteDeth> haha
[01:17] <Happu_> janitor_x: well I'll try to survive. Thanks for help :D
[01:17] <RedGhost> You are crazy then.
[01:17] <WhiteDeth> am not! Everyone I've slept with has too :P
[01:18] <RedGhost> All one of them :P
[01:18] <WhiteDeth> RedGhost: Actually...yes.
[01:18] <WhiteDeth> Installer just gave me the EXACT same error again!?!?! :(
[01:19] <fildo> sleep remedy . lots bongs
[01:19] <WhiteDeth> oh dear.
[01:19] <WhiteDeth> I clicked Continue.
[01:19] <WhiteDeth> and it's continuing :|
[01:19] <RedGhost> fildo: amen.
[01:19] <WhiteDeth> uhh...crapp? :\
[01:19] <xopher> Whats this error you're getting white?
[01:19] <calebt> thanks, i will try the valerian root tea and maybe some weed
[01:19] <RedGhost> valerian what what
[01:19] <RedGhost> :S
[01:19] <fildo> or melatonin
[01:20] <fildo> natural sleeping pills.
[01:20] <fildo> a net eng favourite
[01:20] <WhiteDeth> xopher: Too late, already clicked Continue. But if it matters...it was..."The test of the file system with type fat16 in partition #1 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) found uncorrected errors."
[01:20] <elkbuntu> idle chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic please. drug talk anywhere but either here or there
[01:20] <elkbuntu> or any ubuntu channel for that matter
[01:21] <WhiteDeth> does freenode have a #drug channel? :\
[01:21] <lupine_85> ubuntu is an ancient jamacian word meaning "we're all stoned because we smoked weed"
[01:21] <RedGhost> :D
[01:21] <lupine_85> but yeah, a bit OT ;)
[01:21] <elkbuntu> im serious guys, OT to relevant channels
[01:21] <ChickenTalons> does seem to be a need for some this evening/morning
[01:21] <camh> I rip a CD to AAC according to CDRipping (wiki), but when I try to load these in rhythmbox according to RestrictedFormats (wiki) it will not load them - The MIME type of the file could not be identified. Any ideas how to get rhythmbox to play these?
[01:22] <lupine_85> rip them to ogg instead? :)
[01:22] <camh> iPod will not play ogg
[01:22] <lupine_85> hmm
[01:22] <Telroth_Plushie|> caci, do you have libfaac installed?
[01:22] <lupine_85> will <anything-but-rhythm-box> play them?
[01:23] <WhiteDeth> xopher: know anything about that error??
[01:23] <ChickenTalons> speaking of rip....
[01:23] <lupine_85> invalid mimetype means there's no magic at the beginning of the file, the extension is wrong, the file is corrupt or the program doesn't know how to handle the file
[01:23] <camh> command line faad did not - it said: Error: Channel coupling not yet implemented.
[01:23] <WhiteDeth> I think my iRiver plays OGG
[01:23] <lupine_85> iRiver++ :)
[01:23] <WhiteDeth> iRiver PMC-120 RAWKS! :D
[01:23] <Telroth_Plushie|> ipods play ogg, but you have to install linux on it.
[01:24] <WhiteDeth> although it runs on Microsoft PMC :(
[01:24] <camh> file(1) just says "data". perhaps the rip was bad...
[01:24] <camh> libfaac0 is installed
[01:24] <ChickenTalons> Precious Metal Clay?
[01:24] <kamui> Ive been meaning to try installing ipodlinux on my second gen 10gig
[01:24] <xopher> WhiteDeth, no idea, you should try a low level format ;)
[01:24] <camh> Telroth_Plushie|: Sorry. I'll be more precise. iPod firmware does not play ogg :)
[01:24] <kamui> I heard that it skips badly if you do
[01:24] <WhiteDeth> 50 seconds till my Ubuntu install is done.
[01:24] <kamui> when playing mp3s
[01:24] <WhiteDeth> err...27.
[01:25] <Happu_> mount: can't find /dev/hdd in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab Anyone has anyclue about how to add this in mtab or fstab?
[01:25] <WhiteDeth> lol, they're a LOT more on topic than we are here over at #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:25] <AbortD> !amarok
[01:25] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[01:26] <RedGhost> xmms o:
[01:28] <lupine_85> Happu_: man fstab
[01:28] <frogzoo> WhiteDeth: oh you're in finally - congrats
[01:28] <lupine_85> or if you're just wanting a one-off mount, specify more options on the command line
[01:28] <WhiteDeth> frogzoo: I just clicked Continue this time it gave me the error.
[01:29] <frogzoo> WhiteDeth: well we'll see...
[01:29] <WhiteDeth> yeah, install done. restarting now.
[01:29] <frogzoo> cross fingers
[01:29] <WhiteDeth> lol as long as my XP install is okay :P
[01:29] <bad_flash> http://magegame.ru/?rf=5375706572446f67 it is COOL !!! =)
[01:29] <WhiteDeth> will it boot straight into it?
[01:30] <WhiteDeth> ooo nice...
[01:30] <lupine_85> if you installed grub, you'll be given the choice
[01:30] <WhiteDeth> looks like I have.
[01:30] <WhiteDeth> lol
[01:31] <WhiteDeth> OMG YAAAAYYYY
[01:31] <WhiteDeth> party at my house!?
[01:31] <WhiteDeth> Linux installed!? :D
[01:31] <LiraNuna> WhiteDeth, \o/
[01:32] <bad_flash> http://magegame.ru/?rf=5375706572446f67
[01:32] <WhiteDeth> I am officially a geek.
[01:32] <Telroth_Plushie|> lol
[01:32] <Telroth_Plushie|> WhiteDeth, have your pocket protector?
[01:32] <wickedpuppy> WhiteDeth, actually you are not a geek till you can crash linux at will
[01:32] <WhiteDeth> pocket protectr?
[01:33] <Telroth_Plushie|> wickedpuppy, that's not hard. compiz-start &
[01:33] <Telroth_Plushie|> ;)
[01:33] <hawkaloogie> perl -e"fork while (1);"
[01:33] <richiefrich> WhiteDeth how are you a geek
[01:33] <WhiteDeth> wickedpuppy: Say that about Windows...only, the other way around. You arent a geek untill you can keep windows from crashing ;)
[01:33] <Telroth_Plushie|> hawkaloogie, that's not a crash
[01:33] <Telroth_Plushie|> just an infinite loop
[01:33] <Telroth_Plushie|> one hangs the system
[01:33] <Telroth_Plushie|> one kills it
[01:33] <hawkaloogie> Telroth_Plushie|, ... try it :p
[01:33] <Telroth_Plushie|> subtle differences
[01:33] <WhiteDeth> now...big question...what do I do for my WLAN card? It seems the drivers arent loaded :\
[01:34] <tengil> i just installed php mysql , phpmyadmin and apache2. i created a little info.php to check it works and it does. however when i try to enter the phpmyadmin dir it wont open but instead try to download a file... saying you have choosed to open ... which is a application/x-httpd-php file. why does it do this?
[01:34] <Chousuke> there's the Magic sysreq
[01:34] <hawkaloogie> it doesn't just hang... it forks a wonderful amount of processes that fork more processes that ... blah blah
[01:34] <Chousuke> I don't know how it works, but it can be used to halt the thing as far as I know.
[01:34] <hawkaloogie> each its own little Perl interpreter that likes forking more of itself
[01:34] <hawkaloogie> it goes Down :p
[01:34] <Chousuke> That doesn't work on all systems though
[01:35] <Chousuke> some have resource limits.
[01:35] <WhiteDeth> *cough*
[01:35] <camh> The CDRipping page says to install gstreamer0.8 stuff to encode AAC, but sound-juicer has dependencies on gstreamer0.10 stuff. gst-inspect-0.10 lists no element called ffmux_mp4 - what is the equivalent gstreamer0.10 element?
[01:35] <lupine_85> WhiteDeth: what chipset?
[01:35] <WhiteDeth> Intel 3495
[01:35] <lupine_85> ah
[01:35] <lupine_85> they're a bit of a PITA
[01:35] <WhiteDeth> gah.
[01:35] <WhiteDeth> thats my luck.
[01:36] <lupine_85> first, is the module loaded? - pastebin the output of lsmod
[01:36] <WhiteDeth> whoa whoa slow there buddy
[01:36] <WhiteDeth> now...in English...what?
[01:36] <lupine_85> run lsmod in a terminal
[01:36] <lupine_85> !pastebin
[01:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:36] <lupine_85> then do that
[01:36] <WhiteDeth> wher's terminal?
[01:36] <TeePOG> ag pfffft
[01:37] <LiraNuna> Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[01:37] <WhiteDeth> ahh
[01:37] <lupine_85> in the menu somewhere :)
[01:37] <WhiteDeth> cheers
[01:37] <LiraNuna> then write lsmod and hit enter
[01:37] <WhiteDeth> wait lol
[01:37] <WhiteDeth> how the hell do I do a pastebin if I cant access the net? :P
[01:37] <LiraNuna> err
[01:37] <LiraNuna> IRC is net
[01:38] <lupine_85> hmm, good point
[01:38] <WhiteDeth> I CANT access the net.
[01:38] <richiefrich> WhiteDeth your on the net
[01:38] <wols_> 2 PCs
[01:38] <LiraNuna> oh
[01:38] <WhiteDeth> this is a different laptop
[01:38] <richiefrich> WhiteDeth plug it in
[01:38] <wols_> he installed while being here
[01:38] <WhiteDeth> do you guys get many people installing while actually inside here?
[01:38] <lupine_85> of, run lsmod |grep ipw3945
[01:38] <lupine_85> ok*
[01:39] <richiefrich> WhiteDeth why not just plug in
[01:39] <lupine_85> if it says anything, the module is loaded. If not, we get to have some fun
[01:39] <malice_> Anyone know of a good HOW-TO url that will tell me how ot spoof my mac addy on my wireless card on my laptop?
[01:39] <WhiteDeth> richiefrich: I have a wireless router...why not use it.
[01:39] <WhiteDeth> and im on a laptop.
[01:39] <WhiteDeth> lupine_85: It came up with some stuff...want me to type here?
[01:39] <richiefrich> WhiteDeth it's alot easier to do it plugged in
[01:39] <lupine_85> just one line?
[01:39] <WhiteDeth> 2 lines
[01:39] <lupine_85> well, sure
[01:40] <lupine_85> stick them on one line with || between them :)
[01:40] <WhiteDeth> ipw3945     126620     1  ||  ieee80211      37064    1  ipw3945
[01:40] <Guardian> hi
[01:40] <lupine_85> that's cool
[01:40] <Guardian> is it possible to use the same key for PGP and SSH ?
[01:40] <WhiteDeth> all that typing just for "that's cool"!?!?!
[01:41] <WhiteDeth> :P
[01:41] <lupine_85> ok, if you run iwconfig, does it show any interfaces with wireless extensions enabled?
[01:41] <WhiteDeth> okay, so, what next, good sir?
[01:41] <wols_> Guardian: no
[01:41] <Telroth_Plushie|> WhiteDeth, that's awesome!
[01:41] <WhiteDeth> Telroth_Plushie: YAY! :D
[01:41] <lemino> will it slow down a gnome-system to runt KDE-applications on it (and vice verca)? if so, how much?
[01:41] <hawk> While I understand that the official policy is that universe is unsupported, if I set up an Ubuntu server with Cyrus imapd, etc. Will I be in trouble or will there (in practice) be fixed if security concerns arise?
[01:41] <richiefrich> lemino no
[01:41] <lupine_85> e.g. ("iwconfig" || eth0      no wireless extensions.) is bad, but ("iwconfig" || rausb0    RT2500USB WLAN  ESSID:"lupine")  is good
[01:42] <Guardian> wols_: short and clear thx :)
[01:42] <lupine_85> of course, the interface (rausb0 on the above) and most other details will be different for you
[01:42] <chemaja> lemino, i think it hogs more ram and a little extra cpu
[01:42] <richiefrich> chemaja  not at all
[01:42] <WhiteDeth> lupine_85: lo - no wireless extensions, eth0: no wireless extensions, eth1: unassociated ESSID:off/any, sit0: no wireless extensions.
[01:42] <chemaja> lemino, more ram for the new set of libs to be loaded
[01:42] <chemaja> lemino, a little extra cpu to manage it
[01:42] <lupine_85> bwahaha, eth1 is your wireless card
[01:42] <chemaja> richiefrich, ?
[01:42] <WhiteDeth> you sure it isnt just my network card?
[01:42] <WhiteDeth> i.e. for LAN?
[01:43] <lupine_85> it's your wlan
[01:43] <chemaja> richiefrich, AFAIK
[01:43] <richiefrich> chemaja why would it it just uses the same amout of ram it would use
[01:43] <WhiteDeth> so...how's that funny? :\
[01:43] <richiefrich> not true
[01:43] <lemino> chemaja: aha. i suppose it works the other way around as well?
[01:43] <chemaja> lemino, more or less
[01:43] <lupine_85> never mind - your wireless is working
[01:43] <lupine_85> do you have authentication/etc one?
[01:43] <malice_> I am using a wireless PC card to get on the net on my laptop on wlan0 will this work to change my mac addy or do I need to change eth0 to wlan0 and what about the ether after the hw?
[01:43] <malice_> ifconfig eth0 hw ether 02:01:02:03:04:08
[01:43] <lupine_85> on*
[01:43] <lemino> chemaja: ok. do you know any good IM-client for gnome?
[01:43] <chemaja> richiefrich, in relative terms, all other things equal, loading an app written for a different DE causes the deps of that other DE to also be loaded
[01:43] <WhiteDeth> lupine_85: authentication i.e. WEP and all that in the router?
[01:44] <lemino> chemaja: tried Gaim but i'm not satisfied.
[01:44] <lupine_85> malice_: iwconfig wlan0 ...
[01:44] <lupine_85> WhiteDeth: yes
[01:44] <chemaja> lemino, i personally use gaim, but i'm starting to hear talk about `gossip'
[01:44] <richiefrich> chemaja it only loads the libs it needs just like any other app
[01:44] <WhiteDeth> lupine_85: Yep, I do.
[01:44] <richiefrich> chemaja libs are libs
[01:44] <jrib> hawk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityUpdateProcedures don't know if that helps
[01:44] <lupine_85> ok, you can set WEP easily - "sudo iwconfig eth1 key <blah>"
[01:45] <lupine_85> prefix <blah> with s: if it's ascii
[01:45] <wols_> richiefrich: but it needs a shitload. reducing available ram, either adding to your swap or removing some diskcache
[01:45] <chemaja> richiefrich, yes, but for the gnome desktop, the libs are already loaded (theoretically shared by the already loaded apps)
[01:45] <jrib> hawk: basically, I interpret that as "no guarantee"
[01:45] <chemaja> richiefrich, obviously it varies from case to case, i'm talking as a general rule
[01:45] <chemaja> richiefrich, ie. libG1 + libG2 + libG3 + appG1 + appG2 + appGn
[01:45] <hawk> jrib: Yes, looks like that's about what it says...
[01:45] <lemino> chemaja: so i'm thinking about going back to kopete but there's the issue about kde and gnome. and as you understand i'm on gnome.
[01:46] <chemaja> richiefrich, then you load appK1, and libK1, libK2 get loaded
[01:46] <richiefrich> chemaja as i said not true.. look at say fluxbox so then loading a gnome app it loads the whole DE
[01:46] <richiefrich> no
[01:46] <WhiteDeth> lupine_85: It asked me for password. Im guessing that means my account password?
[01:46] <jrib> hawk: maybe you can contact the maintainer about it though
[01:46] <richiefrich> chemaja and it would load that on any wm/DE
[01:46] <lupine_85> yes
[01:46] <lemino> chemaja: is it possible to uninstall all those unneeded kde-libs once you uninstall the kde-application?
[01:46] <lupine_85> sudo gives you root privs for a command, using your user password
[01:46] <WhiteDeth> lupine_85: I keep typing...but...nothing shows up? :\
[01:46] <lupine_85> that's normal
[01:47] <richiefrich> lemino you can as long as there not needed
[01:47] <WhiteDeth> oh okay, done.
[01:47] <lupine_85> just type your password and hit <RETURM>
[01:47] <chillmod1> do slow screenseves means wrong grafic  drivers?
[01:47] <WhiteDeth> no returm key here.
[01:47] <chemaja> lemino, i haven't really analysed it that closely... i'm talking theoretically. you'd have to test "gnome + gaim - gaim + kopete" yourself and monitor resource usage
[01:47] <WhiteDeth> :P
[01:47] <WhiteDeth> okay, what next?
[01:47] <hawk> jrib: Yes, I guess I could
[01:47] <chemaja> richiefrich, that's my point exactly... loading the app loads the DE
[01:47] <richiefrich> no
[01:47] <wols_> chillmod1: depends on the screensaver. if 3D, then you probably only have software 3D support
[01:47] <chemaja> richiefrich ...
[01:48] <richiefrich> chemaja so if im in flux and load gaim it loads gnome
[01:48] <richiefrich> no
[01:48] <chemaja> richiefrich, gaim isn't a gnome app
[01:48] <WhiteDeth> lupine_85: What do I do next to get the internet going?
[01:48] <richiefrich> chemaja ok then nautilus
[01:48] <richiefrich> chemaja it doesnt load anything it doesnt need
[01:48] <chemaja> richiefrich, ok
[01:49] <lupine_85> WhiteDeth: sudo dhclient eth1
[01:49] <lupine_85> you might need to "sudo ifconfig eth1 up" first
[01:49] <lupine_85> bbias
[01:49] <WhiteDeth> err...just so we know...I actually dont have a DHCP server running. I've got that off.
[01:49] <hawk> Thanks jrib
[01:49] <chemaja> richiefrich, but it might load gconf/libxml (or whatever) into the background
[01:50] <WhiteDeth> static IP's here all the way baby.
[01:50] <chemaja> richiefrich, kopete might load libkde or whatever
[01:50] <richiefrich> chemaja  if they do thats cause they need them to run
[01:50] <chemaja> richiefrich, that's what i'm trying to say :D
[01:50] <richiefrich> chemaja and thats not the whole DE
[01:50] <richiefrich> chemaja is what i mean
[01:51] <chemaja> richiefrich, ok ok it doesn't load the whole de
[01:51] <Telroth_Plushie|> libkde is just another library
[01:51] <chemaja> richiefrich, go re-read what we write
[01:51] <Telroth_Plushie|> just like ssh loading opensll
[01:51] <chemaja> *sighs*
[01:51] <Telroth_Plushie|> or something
[01:51] <chemaja> ok guys np
[01:51] <richiefrich> Telroth_Plushie| ty man
[01:51] <Telroth_Plushie|> though
[01:51] <Telroth_Plushie|> it will start up all of kde's interprocess communication stuff
[01:52] <Telroth_Plushie|> but that'll shut down as soon as the app closes
[01:52] <richiefrich> not if it's not installed
 lemino, more ram for the new set of libs to be loaded
[01:52] <chemaja> ...
[01:52] <Telroth_Plushie|> and it sleeps, so i've never see any preformance issues
[01:52] <chemaja> richiefrich> chemaja as i said not true.. look at say fluxbox so then loading a gnome app it loads the whole DE
[01:52] <chemaja> ...
[01:52] <richiefrich> chemaja thats for any app
[01:52] <richiefrich> of course you'll use more RAM
[01:52] <richiefrich> one any app
[01:52] <Telroth_Plushie|> chemaja, what we're trying to say is
[01:53] <richiefrich> kde apps in gnome or vise versa doesnt mean any more RAM
[01:53] <chemaja> chemaja> richiefrich, obviously it varies from case to case, i'm talking as a general rule
[01:53] <chemaja> ...
[01:53] <Telroth_Plushie|> loading a kde app isn't going to use more resources than a gnome app
[01:53] <Telroth_Plushie|> in general
[01:53] <richiefrich> ^^
[01:53] <Telroth_Plushie|> it has to load the libraries it uses
[01:53] <Telroth_Plushie|> just like a gnome app does
[01:53] <richiefrich> just like any other app
[01:53] <richiefrich> gnome/kde/other
[01:53] <richiefrich> they load libs
[01:53] <chemaja> yeees.
[01:53] <chemaja> and he's running..? gnome.
[01:54] <richiefrich> SO
[01:54] <Telroth_Plushie|> now, if you're running gnome, libgnome is already loaded. just the same, i'm on kde and when i run gnome apps, it has to load libgnome - but it doesn't slow my system down
[01:54] <lupine_85> WhiteDeth: oh, ok
[01:54] <WhiteDeth> yeah.
[01:54] <JackONeill> Would a Nvidia 6200 256mb be better than an Ati Radeon 9500 128mb ?
[01:54] <chemaja> so running one extra gnome app will generally use less resources then running a lib-heavy kde app from inside gnome
[01:54] <WhiteDeth> so it said No DHCPOFFERS
[01:54] <wols_> richiefrich: yes, but kde and gnome apps usually have a shitload of libs. all that component stuff for example
[01:54] <lupine_85> in that case... "sudo ip addr add <ip>/<prefix> brd <broadcast> dev eth1"
[01:54] <JackONeill> WhiteDeth, not a DAVICOM card is it?
[01:55] <wols_> e.g. some even need the ORB or whatever running
[01:55] <richiefrich> wols_ if you load the whole DE
[01:55] <WhiteDeth> JackONeill: Intel 3945
[01:55] <JackONeill> ok
[01:55] <lupine_85> ^ WhiteDeth: ^
[01:55] <chemaja> Telroth_Plushie|, i didn't say "slow down" i said "use more resources"
[01:55] <wols_> richiefrich: no, even if you load only a single app. they are built this way
[01:55] <WhiteDeth> lupine_85: Help me out with that. What's going where? :\
[01:55] <richiefrich> wols_ not true
[01:55] <lupine_85> we can make it do all this automagically once it's got a workking connection
[01:55] <Telroth_Plushie|> chemaja, then yes, it will
[01:55] <Telroth_Plushie|> chemaja, even loading a gnome app in gnome uses more resources
[01:55] <JackONeill> BANG! and the dirt is gone
[01:55] <wols_> chemaja: it also is slowing down since it usually uses more ressources than a similar app of the "normal" DE. and more ram = speed
[01:55] <lupine_85> ok... and example for me would be "sudo ip addr add 81.187.208.241/29 brd 81.187.208.247 dev eth1"
[01:55] <chemaja> omg i give up
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> richiefrich: chemaja    Seems like all of that would be better off in Offtopic....
[01:56] <lupine_85> that help?
[01:56] <chemaja> Jack_Sparrow, actually i really can't be bothered arguing anymore... :D thanks.
[01:56] <JackONeill> Would a Nvidia 6200 256mb be better than an Ati Radeon 9500 128mb ?
[01:56] <Telroth_Plushie|> wols_, kde has 2 libs
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> JackONeill: yes
[01:56] <unfknblvbl> nvidia >> ati
[01:56] <Telroth_Plushie|> libkde and libqt usually
[01:56] <Telroth_Plushie|> unfknblvbl, amen
[01:56] <unfknblvbl> i've had 4 nvidia and 2 ati cards
[01:57] <unfknblvbl> nvidia looks better
[01:57] <unfknblvbl> lasts longer
[01:57] <Telroth_Plushie|> chemaja, what are you system specs?
[01:57] <wols_> richiefrich: and the gnome app would use the libs already in place, no need for the space libkde and libqt take up in ram
[01:57] <WhiteDeth> lupine_85: What's the /29 bit?
[01:57] <chemaja> wols_, heads up for the backup, btw. :D
[01:57] <unfknblvbl> and the drivers are far better
[01:57] <WhiteDeth> and what's the IP address after the letters "brd" for?
[01:57] <hawk> WhiteDeth: mask
[01:57] <JackONeill> unfknblvbl.... and the actual -cards- ?#
[01:57] <unfknblvbl> yeh they last longer
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> 6600 here
[01:57] <chemaja> Telroth_Plushie|, P3 600MHz, 256MB, 20GB, 32MB RIVA TNT, SB Live, cable inet
[01:57] <Telroth_Plushie|> cards aren't made by nvidia
[01:57] <WhiteDeth> Ive never had to enter a "mask" before...so uhh...can I just leave it empty? :\
[01:57] <unfknblvbl> they don't die
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> 6600oc actually
[01:58] <JackONeill> NO no your missing the point - out of the two I said... which one performs better?
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> nvidia
[01:58] <Telroth_Plushie|> nvidia
[01:58] <chemaja> Telroth_Plushie|, why?
[01:58] <JackONeill> That biast basing on the manufacturer or the actual qualities?
[01:58] <unfknblvbl> n v i d i a
[01:58] <WhiteDeth> lupine_85: I ended up putting this - "sudo ip addr add 192.168.1.201 brd 192.168.1.1 dev eth1" - is that...uhh correct? :\
[01:58] <JackONeill> Yeah like I thought, none of you have any idea
[01:58] <lupine_85> nvidia WhiteDeth: that's your subnet mask
[01:58] <JackONeill> Useless!
[01:58] <richiefrich> wols_  my point is a lib is a lib.. when you open a app it loads what libs it needs uses the RAM it needs and thats that.. no loss of speed  yes it uses more processes thats a given just lick any other app would ..  but i am done..
[01:58] <Telroth_Plushie|> chemaja, i was wondering. that setup might notice soem small preformance issues with loading a kde app in gnome, but not much you can do about that if you need that app except for switch to kde
[01:58] <lupine_85> omitting it "might" work
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> I have a couple 9200 and 9500 ati and all in wonder... nvidia works better with Linux
[01:59] <lupine_85> for you, it's probably /29
[01:59] <JackONeill> Jack_Sparrow... THATS NOT THE QUESTION!
[01:59] <JackONeill> Jeez
[01:59] <lupine_85> I mean /24!
[01:59] <chemaja> *yawn*
[01:59] <JackONeill> I'm not saying... Linux or Windows.... OR! Nvidia or ATI
[01:59] <JackONeill> Would a Nvidia 6200 256mb be better than an Ati Radeon 9500 128mb ?
[01:59] <lupine_85> erm, and your broadcast isn't going to be .1.1 (that might be your gateway though)
[01:59] <JackONeill> THAT is what I asked
[01:59] <janitor_x> JackONeill, 6600
[01:59] <deceptacon> ive checked md5 for ubuntu images that ive burnt to disk. but every time i try to install, i get a message about corrupt file. (is my cdrom being ghey? how do i stop this shite)
[01:59] <WhiteDeth> so Im not putting my gateway anywhere?
[01:59] <lupine_85> it's probably .1.255 (sorry for the enter-spamming!)
[01:59] <wols_> JackONeill: it is. you cannot divide the driver from the hardware in graphiccards
[01:59] <lupine_85> you will in a second
[01:59] <JackONeill> janitor_x - WHAT 6600?? there is not ANY 6600 here
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> JackONeill: And We ALL answered YES it would be better
[02:00] <lupine_85> "sudo ip route add default via 192.168.1.1 dev eth1"
[02:00] <lupine_85> got all that? :)
[02:00] <wols_> JackONeill: and you are TOTALLY OFF TOPIC in here. this is NOT #hardware
[02:00] <WhiteDeth> lupine_85: Hold on, what's my broadcast? :\
[02:00] <JackONeill> Jack_Sparrow - no you all spouted that nvidia was better not that card was
[02:00] <Telroth_Plushie|> deceptacon, have your burner software verify the disk after burn, and try a different image burning software
[02:00] <wols_> JackONeill: if you ask in here you will get Linux (to be specific Ubuntu) answers. none other
[02:00] <lupine_85> probably 192.168.1.255
[02:00] <janitor_x> sorry... thought it was 6600
[02:00] <deceptacon> Telroth_Plushie|: the cdrom's md5 checksums also match up. its the destination computer's cdrom drive being ghey
[02:01] <lupine_85> "sudo ip addr change <ip> brd 192.168.1.255"
[02:01] <wols_> JackONeill: so maybe check where you are before asking next time, k?
[02:01] <JackONeill> wols_ - Well after I have decided on the better card comes the linux issue - or I wouldnt be here
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> JackONeill: READ... my first answer was simply YES... I went on to add my latest card...
[02:01] <JackONeill> So stfu
[02:01] <WhiteDeth> lupine_85: I typed that in and it said "RTNETLINK answers: File exists"
[02:01] <janitor_x> JackONeill, maybe u stfu...
[02:01] <wols_> JackONeill: please watch your language
[02:01] <JackONeill> mebbe NOT
[02:01] <lupine_85> ok, delete it instead  - "ip addr del <ip>"
[02:01] <lupine_85> then re-add
[02:02] <WhiteDeth> "Not enough information: "dev" argi,emt os reqiored/
[02:02] <wols_> !ops could you please tell JackONeill to watch his language. he seems he's an all mighty colonel or something
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops could you please tell JackONeill to watch his language. he seems he's an all mighty colonel or something - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <WhiteDeth> woops
[02:02] <janitor_x> this room is not about which of your card is better... go to off-topic
[02:02] <WhiteDeth> "dev" argument is required.
[02:02] <JackONeill> lol
[02:02] <lupine_85> yep, so add it - ..."dev eth1"
[02:03] <JackONeill> !ubotu patronising > wols_
[02:03] <JackONeill> :P
[02:03] <lupine_85> to the end of whatever command is causing problems
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patronising - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <lupine_85> aww
[02:03] <cpk2> would i need to edit my xorg.conf file to make my display resolution bigger? the gui wont let me make it larger
[02:03] <lupine_85> !netcop
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netcop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <lupine_85> bah
[02:03] <WhiteDeth> blah, now it says "RTNETLINK answers: Operation not permitted."
[02:03] <JackONeill> !women
[02:03] <ubotu> The women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.
[02:03] <lupine_85> sudo... :)
[02:03] <lupine_85> !laydeez
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about laydeez - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <Lunar_Lamp> for xchat, is a there a package of sound files downloadable anywhere? it seems to have come by default without any sounds, and i want to use some (e.g. play sound on pm) etc
[02:03] <JackONeill> !homosexuality
[02:03] <lupine_85> my ubotu-fu must be low...
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about homosexuality - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:04] <WhiteDeth> lol okay done
[02:04] <WhiteDeth> now add again?
[02:04] <lupine_85> yep, specifying everything this time :)
[02:04] <WhiteDeth> file still exists.
[02:04] <WhiteDeth> what a fag.
[02:04] <JackONeill> lol
[02:05] <lupine_85> hmm
[02:05] <lupine_85> ip addr show
[02:05] <zaggynl> Anyone knows a Daemontools replacement for Linux?
[02:05] <lupine_85> is it there?
[02:05] <WhiteDeth> is what wher?
[02:05] <JackONeill> !linus
[02:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:05] <lupine_85> the ip address entry
[02:05] <WhiteDeth> oooo
[02:05] <JackONeill> eh!?
[02:05] <lupine_85> !RMS
[02:05] <ubotu> rms is Richard Matthew Stallman, founder of the GNU project. See !gnu and also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman
[02:05] <elkbuntu> !botabuse
[02:05] <zaggynl> Linus Torvalds :>
[02:05] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[02:05] <WhiteDeth> eth1 has /29 and /24 in it.
[02:05] <Wanderer> Anyone ever get a gpg pubkey for opera from the sourceomatic?
[02:05] <lupine_85> hehe, lol
[02:05] <JackONeill> should be something on linus at least
[02:05] <JackONeill> a link or something
[02:05] <wols_> zaggynl: not needed. linux can mount ISOs out of the box. other things need to be converted to iso first tho
[02:06] <lupine_85> ok, delete them both
[02:06] <lupine_85> bchunk++
[02:06] <zaggynl> wols_, but can that be done with a pretty GUI>
[02:06] <WhiteDeth> but I just deleted one of em. Is it because I kept adding the broadcast IP as 192.168.1.1 ?
[02:06] <wols_> zaggynl: no clue
[02:07] <WhiteDeth> lupine: nevermind, got it :D
[02:07] <WhiteDeth> now it shows none there.
[02:07] <wickedpuppy> zaggynl, mounting an iso isn't that hard :P
[02:07] <WhiteDeth> gonna add again now
[02:07] <lupine_85> ok, now add :)
[02:07] <WhiteDeth> sweet, done.
[02:07] <zaggynl> I just found cdemu
[02:07] <zaggynl> seems to benice
[02:07] <lupine_85> now do the ip route command
[02:07] <Telroth_Plushie|> zaggynl, not really. you could set it up, but if it's an iso it's easier to just "sudo mount /path/to.iso /mount/point -o loop
[02:08] <zaggynl> I haven a .bin though
[02:08] <Telroth_Plushie|> err, do you have a .cue as well?
[02:08] <zaggynl> yup
[02:08] <wols_> zaggynl: google bin2iso
[02:08] <Telroth_Plushie|> .bin/.cure can be converted
[02:08] <Telroth_Plushie|> *cue
[02:08] <JackONeill> !thischannel
[02:08] <Telroth_Plushie|> then just mount like iso
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thischannel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <lupine_85> you can write your own .cue if you need to :)
[02:08] <lupine_85> bit of guesswork though
[02:08] <WhiteDeth> lupine_85: Done! :D
[02:08] <Telroth_Plushie|> bbl, school
[02:09] <zaggynl> meh
[02:09] <lupine_85> now ping...
[02:09] <WhiteDeth> straight out like in CMD in windows?
[02:09] <lupine_85> yep
[02:09] <lupine_85> ping blah
[02:09] <hydro> oh my goodness, there are 800+ people in this room. yikes
[02:09] <WhiteDeth> "ping: unknown host www.google.com" :(
[02:09] <JackONeill> !myself,you,here,or anything else
[02:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myself,you,here,or anything else - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> google ip  216.239.39.99
[02:10] <Intimate`> Hello.
[02:10] <WhiteDeth> Destination Host unreachable.
[02:10] <Intimate`> is it possible to boot Ubunto from cd?
[02:10] <lupine_85> ok.. can you ping the router?
[02:10] <WhiteDeth> how do I stop the ping first lol
[02:11] <wickedpuppy> Intimate`, yes
[02:11] <lupine_85> ctrl+c
[02:11] <WhiteDeth> nope, unreachable as well.
[02:11] <lastnode> Intimate`, it is a live cd
[02:11] <Intimate`> wickedpuppy: so it will not install but I can use it while cd is in?
[02:11] <Intimate`> oh good.
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Intimate`: yes
[02:11] <wickedpuppy> Intimate`, yes
[02:11] <Intimate`> I'll download it then.
[02:11] <Intimate`> :)
[02:11] <Intimate`> lol
[02:11] <gilianima> hi
[02:11] <Intimate`> hi
[02:11] <lastnode> Intimate`, you can try it, and then if you like it, you can install it
[02:11] <wickedpuppy> Intimate`, hmms ... so you are totally new to linux ?
[02:11] <lupine_85> ok... so you're not connected to the AP, presumablt
[02:12] <lupine_85> y*
[02:12] <hernan> alguien habla espaol?
[02:12] <wickedpuppy> !es
[02:12] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[02:12] <lupine_85> do iwconfig eth1 ...
[02:12] <Armagguedes> hello
[02:12] <gilianima> how to see what packages containing "java" in their name are installed on my system, using command line ?
[02:12] <lastnode> hi Armagguedes
[02:12] <Intimate`> wickedpuppy: umm.. I have some experience, only some commands
[02:12] <lastnode> gilianima, apt-cache search java
[02:12] <Intimate`> wickedpuppy: pm for talk
[02:12] <WhiteDeth> what am I looking for here?
[02:12] <lupine_85> Does "Access Point:" have anything?
[02:12] <JackONeill> !ubuntu
[02:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:12] <WhiteDeth> Not associated
[02:13] <WhiteDeth> :\
[02:13] <Armagguedes> can someone tell me of a good Podcast?. im looking for tech, anime or related podcasts. i was kinda hoping someone knew about tech/linux podcasts here
[02:13] <zaggynl> Makefile:67: *** You'll need at least 2.6.16 kernel.  Stop.
[02:13] <zaggynl> ..
[02:13] <gilianima> lastnode: i need the list among already installed package
[02:13] <zaggynl> I have .29
[02:13] <WhiteDeth> hold a sec, switching PC's.
[02:13] <wickedpuppy> Intimate`, hmms ... sorry no pm .. well if you know linux then its fine .. if not pls ask help from a local guru .. for a completely new user .. but you are not so yah .. enjoy!!
[02:13] <lupine_85> ok... try specifying the essid: "sudo iwconfig eth1 essid <blah>"
[02:13] <Intimate`> thanks.
[02:13] <Intimate`> wickedpuppy: how would I connect to my wireless with ubuntu?
[02:13] <gilianima> lastnode: and with java only in the name
[02:14] <lastnode> gilianima, man apt-get, i forget the flag
[02:14] <WhiteDeth> you want me to enter that 32 digit code again!? gah lol
[02:14] <lupine_85> no...
[02:14] <lupine_85> ok... try specifying the essid: "sudo iwconfig eth1 essid <blah>"
[02:14] <wickedpuppy> Intimate`, thats a very big question ... do you have supported hardware ? are drivers installed ? so manyyyy things ...
[02:14] <hydro> I was wondering if anyone might be able to  help ... I have an IBM Thinkpad X41 and just got Dapper Drake installed successfully. I have an Airport Express and the WiFi connection seems to be recognized (eth1) ... but I noticed that Dapper Drake takes a long time too change Locations in the Interface Properties (Networking). I created a new Location but whenever I reboot the machine, the Location is not used as default. Any help is apprecia
[02:14] <lupine_85> e.g. "lupine" for me. could be anything for you
[02:14] <Intimate`> wickedpuppy: yes, I am on my wireless now.
[02:14] <WhiteDeth> lupine_85: My ESSID = my WEP key, right?
[02:15] <aeroSoul> does anyone know where the outgoing mail from postfix is stored? or how i delete them... popularity-contest scripts tries to send mail but i dont have any external smtp servers setup in postfix
[02:15] <JackONeill> hydro, it's just crap
[02:15] <wickedpuppy> Intimate`, linux ?
[02:15] <lupine_85> WhiteDeth: no
[02:15] <hydro> JackONeill what you do you mean? Should I ignore Locations?
[02:15] <ziro01> yo
[02:15] <ziro01> out of interest
[02:15] <Thuryn> hello
[02:15] <WhiteDeth> oh
[02:15] <Thuryn> tell me
[02:15] <WhiteDeth> crap
[02:15] <Intimate`> wickedpuppy: I am running windows.
[02:15] <lupine_85> it's your "ssid", if that helps
[02:15] <JackONeill> hydro, ignore all of it
[02:15] <WhiteDeth> oh, router name.
[02:15] <WhiteDeth> righteo
[02:15] <lupine_85> you might be able to get it from sudo iwlist eth1 scan
[02:15] <hydro> JackONeill what? You mean don't use Ubuntu at all?
[02:15] <JackONeill> hydro, yup
[02:16] <wickedpuppy> Intimate`, you are aware that whats compitable on windows doesn't mean it will work the same way on linux right ?
[02:16] <hydro> JackONeil why?
[02:16] <JackONeill> hydro, crap
[02:16] <WhiteDeth> lupine_85: Naw, saved in my PSP...just a sec
[02:16] <Intimate`> wickedpuppy: yeah
[02:16] <JackONeill> hydro, in a month there will be a new one
[02:16] <lupine_85> lol
[02:16] <lupine_85> dist-upgrade++
[02:16] <JackONeill> hydro, ignore that too
[02:16] <hydro> JackONeill: do you think the next version in a month will also be crap?
[02:16] <koDiacc> is there a german firefox package in apt? or do i have to install it manually?
[02:16] <wickedpuppy> Intimate`, well first just enjoy the live cd :P and try to configre wireless on it ... come here for help if needed .. :P
[02:16] <JackONeill> hydro, yup
[02:16] <janitor_x> because he is actually a crap too
[02:16] <janitor_x> lol
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !ops
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[02:16] <hydro> JackONeill: would it be better to try and hack Mac OS X on the ThinkPad?
[02:17] <wols_>  /var/spool/postfix somewhere afaik
[02:17] <mmouse> can anybody tell me, if it's possible to update a hoary box to dapper. This is a remote server, so I got no desktop packages, ssh only access, and a complete reinstall is no option...
[02:17] <JackONeill> hydro, yup
[02:17] <hydro> JackONeill: have you tried that before?
[02:17] <lupine_85> mmouse: yes. upgrade to breezy first
[02:17] <aeroSoul> wols_: i'll have a look
[02:17] <JackONeill> hydro, linux just is not very adaptive in many situations - you found one
[02:17] <Intimate`> wickedpuppy: ok will do.. downloading now.. do I get the i836 or whatever version?
[02:17] <JackONeill> hydro, will be one day, just not today
[02:17] <lupine_85> going direct to dapper is unsupported
[02:17] <wickedpuppy> Intimate`, that depends on ya chip of course
[02:17] <hydro> JackONeill: but I thought Ubuntu is the bomb?
[02:18] <JackONeill> hydro, bollox
[02:18] <Intimate`> wickedpuppy: it's a intel
[02:18] <WhiteDeth> lupine_85: Done.
[02:18] <wols_> JackONeill: please don't advocate illegal behaviour
[02:18] <hydro> JackONeill: but everyone is hyper about open source and how it will doom Microsoft
[02:18] <DBO> Jack_Sparrow??
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> JackONeill: is being disruptive and disrespectful to the channel
[02:18] <wickedpuppy> Intimate`, intel also has 64 bit ...
[02:18] <JackONeill> hydro, sure, linux is great
[02:18] <wols_> DBO: JackONeill is trolling
[02:18] <WhiteDeth> lupine_85: Woohoo! I can ping my router! :D
[02:18] <lupine_85> WhiteDeth: cool
[02:18] <mmouse> lupine: the update faq says something about mandatory install of the "ubuntu-desktop" package. Do you know why? (i really don't want kde/gnome on this box...)
[02:18] <wols_> and advocating illegal behaviour
[02:18] <Intimate`> wickedpuppy: dont think it is 64.
[02:18] <JackONeill> wols_ - No I am being honest... don't be such a dictator
[02:18] <JackONeill> and you Jack_Sparrow
[02:18] <hydro> JackONeill I think you had a bad day with Ubuntu today ... the other guy Jack Sparrow said you are being disruptive
[02:19] <DBO> JackONeill, this is not the forum to discuss those issues, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:19] <lupine_85> now, run: sudo echo "nameserver <ip>" >> /etc/resolv.conf
[02:19] <Intimate`> wickedpuppy: i'll get the i8** version. Thanks.
[02:19] <wickedpuppy> Intimate`, well then 386 will do fine :P after that you can find out about ya chip from linux :P
[02:19] <lupine_85> ip is probably your router ip
[02:19] <DBO> JackONeill, this room is for tech support only
[02:19] <WhiteDeth> lupine_85: What;s that for?
[02:19] <hydro> DBO: thanks
[02:19] <JackONeill> DBO, thats exactly what I gave
[02:19] <lupine_85> dns
[02:19] <JackONeill> read before you critise
[02:19] <WhiteDeth> aahh
[02:20] <JackONeill> hydro, if you want something thats hassle free and can do what you need quickly without fuss on the go... it's a no with linux
[02:20] <lupine_85> now ping www.google.co.uk should work fine
[02:20] <WhiteDeth> lupine_85: bash: /etc/resolv.conf: Permission denied"
[02:20] <hydro> DBO: can you make any recommendations regarding Locations in Network Settings? It seems very slow to change profiles after I have created a new Location and when I reboot, the Location I want to use is not used.
[02:20] <lupine_85> sudo...
[02:20] <WhiteDeth> i did
[02:20] <WhiteDeth> i swear :P
[02:20] <WhiteDeth> lol
[02:20] <lupine_85> ok, use ">" instead of ">>"
[02:20] <hydro> JackONeill: I think all operating systems are a hassle ... so far I think Mac OS X is the best.
[02:20] <lupine_85> (replace instead of append)
[02:21] <WhiteDeth> still same
[02:21] <DBO> hydro, edit your /etc/network/preferences to reflect what you want to be default
[02:21] <lupine_85> ok... sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[02:21] <JackONeill> hydro, MacOS is nice, but apple is a half breed of evil... not as bad as M$ tho
[02:21] <lupine_85> then add it in there :)
[02:21] <hydro> DBO: Thank you
[02:21] <WhiteDeth> lupine_85: lol. How?
[02:21] <hydro> JackONeill: yes, I agree about Apple, this is why I am hopeful for Ubuntu
[02:21] <WhiteDeth> this all looks WAY too much like OSX86.
[02:22] <JackONeill> hydro, ubuntu is a phase
[02:22] <lupine_85> by typing "nameserver <IP>" into the editor that appears...
[02:22] <hydro> JackONeill: a phase toward what end?
[02:22] <JackONeill> hydro, nothing at all
[02:22] <DBO> hydro, please just ignore him
[02:22] <lupine_85> then ctrl+o (then <RETURN> to save)
[02:22] <lupine_85> the ctrl+x to exit
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> JackONeill: Is a Phase... soon to be phased out...
[02:22] <WhiteDeth> sweet
[02:22] <WhiteDeth> done
[02:22] <WhiteDeth> testing now
[02:23] <WhiteDeth> nope, unknowng host. I screwed up somewhere -_-
[02:23] <hydro> JackONeill: I'm all for being honest, but quite frankly I am very happy to be running Ubuntu today and I know its not perfect, so my expectations are just fine
[02:23] <lupine_85> argh
[02:23] <WhiteDeth> lupine_85: Fixed!
[02:23] <wols_>   hydro don't feed
[02:23] <lupine_85> woo!
[02:23] <WhiteDeth> lol, im the biggest idiot EVER.
[02:23] <JackONeill> hydro, there are more user friendly ideas that ubuntu refuses to implement and the marketting is not that good... won't catch o as much as it should do
[02:23] <lupine_85> nah :)
[02:23] <WhiteDeth> I wrote "nameserver <IP>" with quotes :P
[02:23] <WhiteDeth> lol!
[02:23] <lupine_85> bwahahahaha
[02:23] <lupine_85> ok... sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[02:23] <WhiteDeth> realized wtf I had done
[02:24] <lupine_85> we make it permanent and automatic now
[02:24] <WhiteDeth> oh
[02:24] <WhiteDeth> okay it loaded this file
[02:24] <lupine_85> first look for the two lines "auto eth1" and "iface eth1 inet static" ... if they aren't there, put them in
[02:24] <lupine_85> you might have iface eth1 inet dhcp - if so just edit dhcp->static
[02:25] <WhiteDeth> they're there
[02:25] <WhiteDeth> but it says iface eth1 inet dhcp :\
[02:25] <WhiteDeth> change to static?
[02:25] <lupine_85> yep
[02:25] <WhiteDeth> done sir
[02:25] <hydro> DBO: on my system, there is no such file as /etc/network/preferences
[02:25] <JackONeill> of course not
[02:25] <godfather> g' days
[02:25] <godfather> guys
[02:26] <wols_> hydro: /etc/network/interfaces
[02:26] <DBO> hydro, sorry, /etc/network/interfaces, I just woke up
[02:26] <godfather> i have a question
[02:26] <wols_> for how to config man interfaces
[02:26] <hydro> thanks DBO and wols_
[02:26] <lupine_85> you then want to add some lines right after the iface line:- "wireless-key <key>" | "wireless-essid <essid>" | "address <ip>"| netmask 255.255.255.0
[02:26] <godfather> i wish to learn making web pages
[02:26] <godfather> i've asked all around
[02:26] <godfather> and nowadays
[02:26] <jrib> !enter
[02:26] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[02:26] <WhiteDeth> | = linebreak?
[02:26] <lupine_85> yep
[02:26] <JackONeill> !linux
[02:26] <ubotu> linux: Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.25 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[02:26] <jrib> godfather: do you want to learn html?
[02:26] <godfather> the .net windows platform seems to be the best
[02:27] <dao> Is it true that the regular Dapper-install won't let me choose where to install GRUB?
[02:27] <godfather> they talk me about dream weaver
[02:27] <lupine_85> then dns-nameserver <ip> | "gateway <ip>"
[02:27] <lupine_85> !nvu#
[02:27] <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 8343 kB, installed size 26440 kB
[02:27] <hydro> DBO:  if I want to  make one of my locations the default one to use, how would I enter that into /etc/network/interfaces ? I see only entries in interfaces currently such as "auto eth1", etc.
[02:27] <jrib> godfather: try not to use the enter key as punctuation
[02:27] <lupine_85> or just use jmarshall.com along with kate or gedit
[02:28] <godfather> with it u can use php, perl ,flash altogether making a real good job
[02:28] <WhiteDeth> lupine: when I enter address <IP> thats my IP right?
[02:28] <JackONeill> BLUE!
[02:28] <wols_> godfather: .net might be the best way for windosw, however most websites run on apache2 under *nix, and .net is not the best there
[02:28] <DBO> hydro, you just fill the information in there, google will show you how to do things if you are confused, im rather busy right now however
[02:28] <godfather> does exist somthing similar on linux platform?
[02:28] <WhiteDeth> lupine: and dns <IP> is what? :\
[02:28] <lupine_85> your IP, yes
[02:28] <JackONeill> hydro, amusing isn't it?
[02:28] <hydro> DBO: thank, I'll Google it
[02:28] <lupine_85> dns-nameserver <IP> is the ip of the router,  usually
[02:29] <hydro> JackONeill: I do agree with you in some regards ... this is why Microsoft charges money for support.
[02:29] <JackONeill> hydro, have fun in your never ending maze
[02:29] <WhiteDeth> lupine: So it'll be the same as the gateway IP
[02:29] <wols_> hydro: he will heckle until you ignore him
[02:29] <Noxville> hello.
[02:29] <WhiteDeth> okay, added all lines
[02:29] <hydro> wols_: thanks for the heads up ... but JackONeill isn't really heckling me
[02:30] <JackONeill> i'm just trying to be -upbeat- :P
[02:30] <WhiteDeth> Ctrl+O and Ctrl+x now?
[02:30] <lupine_85> yep
[02:30] <wols_> hydro: it's still trolling
[02:30] <WhiteDeth> done
[02:30] <lupine_85> then on a reboot your net shoudl work automagically
[02:30] <WhiteDeth> lol.
[02:30] <WhiteDeth> time to test this!
[02:30] <JackONeill> hydro, everyone is a facist dictator here... if you step out of line you get shot
[02:30] <JackONeill> it's like efnet
[02:30] <godfather> so does exist a big platform on linux to make web pages
[02:30] <Mortice> hydro: no, but he is trolling, and you're feeding him
[02:30] <hydro> wols_: what does trolling mean?
[02:30] <Noxville> any1 know what the package is for random quote generator???
[02:30] <lupine_85> !nvu
[02:30] <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 8343 kB, installed size 26440 kB
[02:30] <Juhaz> !ops
[02:30] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[02:30] <lupine_85> hydro: people posting stuff just to get a reaction and disrupt the channel.mailing list
[02:31] <wickedpuppy> Noxville, fortune ?
[02:31] <lupine_85> best bet is /ignore when that happens
[02:31] <DBO> Juhaz?
[02:31] <Noxville> why thank you... its been a while
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !troll
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <JackONeill> watch this :P (go ahead)
[02:31] <hydro> lupine_85: oh, I see ... yeah, I don't think of myself as troll bait so I will be ignoring tolls now
[02:31] <JackONeill> prove my point
[02:31] <DBO> JackONeill, please take the off topic chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:32] <JackONeill> This was on topic and you know it
[02:32] <munti> Hi, what do I thow do I set permissions drwxr-xr-x on my current user, I have su access
[02:32] <hydro> JackONeill: that is not really kind of you to troll in a public chat room where people come for assistance
[02:32] <lupine_85> hmm, I dunno... you look convincing ;)
[02:32] <jrib> this is ridiculous, just ban him.  Thank you
[02:32] <munti> how do I set permissions drwxr-xr-x on my current user, I have su access
[02:32] <munti> sorry for that
[02:32] <lupine_85> sudo chmod 755 <blah>
[02:32] <kling0n> !libvisual
[02:32] <WhiteDeth> lupine! :D Ping is working after reboot!
[02:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libvisual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:33] <WhiteDeth> now to try the internet :D
[02:33] <Intimate`> wickedpuppy: so what must I do to be able to connect to my wireless?
[02:33] <munti> lupine_85: thx
[02:33] <FurryNemesis> !vpn
[02:33] <frogzoo> munti: chmod 755
[02:33] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[02:33] <lupine_85> mwahahaha
[02:33] <kling0n> !libvisual0.4
[02:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libvisual0.4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:33] <kling0n> !libvisual0.2
[02:33] <ubotu> libvisual0.2: Audio visualization framework. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.0-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 70 kB, installed size 228 kB
[02:33] <Tami> hola!!
[02:33] <wickedpuppy> Intimate`, well ... wireless card is a starter ... and see if linux can recognise it ..
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> DBO: thank you
[02:33] <lupine_85> hola
[02:33] <lupine_85> !es
[02:33] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:33] <dao> I'm about to install Dapper, but I don't want to install GRUB on the Master Boot Record... is it true that with the regular Dapper-installation it is not possible to install GRUB other then on the MBR location?
[02:33] <WhiteDeth> holy crap it worked!! :D
[02:33] <WhiteDeth> Lupine_85: I owe you biiiiiiiiiig! Thanks a lot!! :D
[02:33] <lupine_85> dao: use the alternative install CD
[02:33] <lupine_85> !alternate
[02:33] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.
[02:33] <Intimate`> wickedpuppy: I used back|track and that managed to reconise it
[02:33] <WhiteDeth> lupine_85 for op! :P
[02:34] <WhiteDeth> :D
[02:34] <lupine_85> hehe
[02:34] <lupine_85> j/k
[02:34] <WhiteDeth> now...time to go find me a good IRC client
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> lupine_85: Nice work with that..
[02:34] <wickedpuppy> whats back|track ?
[02:34] <WhiteDeth> im sick of chatzilla
[02:34] <WhiteDeth> its fugly
[02:34] <WhiteDeth> is there a mIRC for Linux?
[02:34] <wickedpuppy> WhiteDeth, xchat
[02:34] <Intimate`> wickedpuppy: network secuirty version of linux
[02:34] <lupine_85> Jack_Sparrow: np :). good job he was using edgy though
[02:35] <dao> lupine_85, oke great :-)
[02:35] <user42> hello...\
[02:35] <WhiteDeth> xchat it is.
[02:35] <wickedpuppy> Intimate`, ah i see ... well then can you surf the net ?
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> WhiteDeth: I like Konversation.. but I am probably in the minority on that one
[02:35] <lupine_85> ipw3495 + dapper is a PITA
[02:35] <ptenf> Hi all. Suggestions how I can get russian characters display properly in the console? I need both russian and english.. Thank you
[02:35] <Murchadh> would someone please help me....I have breezy installed but i notice on the update manager that it has an option to "upgrade" to dapper...what I would like to know is, if i click on "upgrade" will it just upgrade my breezy painlessly to dapper or will it require me to install dapper as a new version beside breezy?
[02:35] <Intimate`> wickedpuppy: didnt know how to connect lol
[02:35] <frogzoo> !fonts > Murchadh
[02:35] <wickedpuppy> Intimate`, how did you know that distro recognise the card ?
[02:35] <frogzoo> !fonts > ptenf
[02:35] <frogzoo> soz Murchadh
[02:35] <user42> quick question, now that I have completely hosed X attempting to install Xgl, how do I reconfigure X in ubuntu? the standard X conf console utilities don't appear to exist.
[02:36] <Intimate`> wiccked: i did the command that tells you what cards you have installed or something
[02:36] <wols_> user42: didn't you make backups?  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:36] <frogzoo> !xorg
[02:36] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:36] <Noxville> how do you output fortunes to a file???
[02:36] <wickedpuppy> Intimate`, well then can you run that method again ?
[02:36] <lupine_85> Real Men Don't Back Up
[02:36] <Noxville> !fortune
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fortune - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <lupine_85> Noxville: fortune > file
[02:36] <jrib> Noxville: fortune > file
[02:36] <wols_> Murchadh: it will upgrade your breezy
[02:36] <user42> quit
[02:37] <Noxville> lupine, isn't that for only one fortune? i need many
[02:37] <WhiteDeth> lupine_85: Now tomorrow im gonna be asking you to help me install AIGXL and Beryl on this :P
[02:37] <Murchadh> thank you wols_
[02:37] <lupine_85> then stick it in a for loop?
[02:37] <wickedpuppy> Noxville, then  you write a loop in bash
[02:37] <jrib> don't the fortunes come from a file?
[02:37] <lupine_85> or just grab them from the furtunes file directly
[02:37] <wols_> jrib: it does
[02:37] <Noxville> hlp. please. i = n00b
[02:37] <lupine_85> pretty easy
[02:37] <Noxville> well wheres that file then
[02:37] <Noxville> ?
[02:38] <lupine_85> % separates entries, IIrC
[02:38] <Warbo> Has anyone tried using the soundconverter program to get Ogg Vorbis out of Musepack? I have the gstreamer0.8 plugin but it just waits a few seconds then says "Done in 5 seconds" (which it blatantly hasn't)
[02:38] <jrib> Noxville: /usr/share/games/fortunes/
[02:38] <Noxville> dankeshun
[02:38] <Intimate`> wickedpuppy: i'll find the command for you
[02:39] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> !dist-upgrade
[02:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist-upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:39] <Intimate`> wickedpuppy: ifconfig -a
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> Intimate`, so ... your card is recognised now ?
[02:40] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> people i need your help. how can i get the IP of a person with whom i m chatting using Gaim?
[02:40] <wickedpuppy> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, may we ask why ?
[02:40] <lupine_85> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: the protocol is designed so you can't do that
[02:40] <Warbo> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: Type into the message window "Excuse me, what is your IP?"
[02:40] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> LOL
[02:40] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> wickedpuppy: Prorat
[02:40] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> got it?
[02:41] <Intimate`> wickedpuppy: well I did 'iwconfig' and it reconised my card
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> prorat ?
[02:41] <Noxville> how do you host a ftp server off ubuntu?
[02:41] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i m a stupid script kiddie
[02:41] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> yeah google prorat
[02:41] <wols_> Noxville: install vsftpd
[02:41] <lupine_85> oooh free pr0n
[02:41] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> what is hax0rz?
[02:41] <Noxville> link?
[02:41] <lupine_85> or pureftpd... or proftpd...
[02:41] <FurryNemesis> hello all
[02:41] <lupine_85> !vsftpd
[02:41] <ubotu> vsftpd: The Very Secure FTP Daemon. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 107 kB, installed size 404 kB
[02:41] <Warbo> yo
[02:42] <FurryNemesis> how can I connect via vpn to my uni network?
[02:42] <lastnode> does k3b burn .bin files?
[02:42] <Warbo> Samba?
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> Intimate`, well then you go to system -> preference -> networking and config the wireless pls
[02:42] <Warbo> lastnode: Get bchunk, it will convert it to iso
[02:42] <lastnode> Warbo, thanks, i have a stupid movie im dlding
[02:42] <lastnode> .bin
[02:42] <lastnode> im like wth? :-)
[02:42] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> anyone know how to convert WAV to MP3 on LInux?
[02:43] <Intimate`> wickedpuppy: will do when I boot from ubuntu, thanks.
[02:43] <Warbo> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: Use LAME
[02:43] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> LAME. where to get it?
[02:43] <user42> back in X... thanks whoever mentioned the dpk-reconfigure thing... that was most helpful..
[02:43] <Warbo> !info lame
[02:43] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> Intimate`, no prob :P
[02:43] <Intimate`> :D
[02:43] <stikif> hi i was trying out vista the other day and it seems to have wiped out grub , i currently am in the live version of ubuntu 5.10, is there a way to reload my original grub from the live cd?
[02:43] <Warbo> !grub > stikif
[02:43] <stikif> !grub
[02:43] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:43] <Warbo> Why does everyone do that?
[02:44] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> cause its a bot
[02:44] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> LOL
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> stikif, windows doesn't like to share :P
[02:44] <hydro> Good by JackONeill -- be good and don't troll too much!
[02:44] <Warbo> Writing "!something > someone" then "someone" types "!something"
[02:44] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> LOL
[02:44] <Khamael> is there a graphical frontend to qemu?
[02:44] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> hey anyone know any good tutorial on IRC
[02:45] <Khamael> or a good howto?
[02:45] <wols_> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/faq.html
[02:45] <Warbo> Khamael: I think some have been made, but the command line options have changed round a bit recently
[02:45] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> wols_ thanks
[02:45] <Khamael> Warbo: worth a try.. is it in any ubuntu repo?
[02:45] <Warbo> Eg. "--user-net" is not "--net user"
[02:46] <Warbo> Khamael: None in Ubuntu
[02:46] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> just wondering - is the Linux kernel written in C?
[02:46] <jrib> is it possible for evolution to automatically download mail from pop.gmail and place it in appropriate virtual folders that correspond to the labels it has been given with gmail?
[02:46] <wickedpuppy> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, you can see for yourself :P Thats the power of linux
[02:46] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> is it for real? I mean : is it compiled on the fly?
[02:46] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> JIT type of thing?
[02:47] <Warbo> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: The source is available to download
[02:47] <kamui> jrib, been tryin to do that for a long time
[02:47] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok...
[02:47] <wols_> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: Yes C. C is never compiler just in time
[02:47] <wickedpuppy> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, i would like to know who told you about linux kernel being jit ...
[02:47] <wols_> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: C is always compiled to machine code
[02:47] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> wickedpuppy: My stupid sick mind
[02:47] <wickedpuppy> might be interesting to talk to
[02:47] <wickedpuppy> ah k
[02:48] <jrib> kamui: hmm ok
[02:48] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> so all you guys no C also. and u r linux geeks. what else you want? ur evolution is complete
[02:48] <Warbo> I can't program to save my life (although I have now had a single lecture on basic Java)
[02:48] <lupine_85> there's a JIT version of C...
[02:49] <frogzoo_> when my pppoe drops out, it fails to reconnect - I have to restart pppd - any ideas ?
[02:49] <kamui> jrib: the best Ive been able to do is set the same rules in evolution as I did in gmail to apply the labels.  GMail popping doesn't append the labels unfortunately to the subject so there isn't any other way afaik
[02:49] <Warbo> But I already knew what a variable was...
[02:49] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> see. and u guys were laughing at me.
[02:49] <wickedpuppy> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, pls do not generalise ... not all know C and now all are linux geeks ... :P
[02:49] <jrib> kamui: ah I see.  Yeah, that is what I'll have to do.  Thanks
[02:49] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> LOL
[02:49] <kamui> jrib: by using the same rules I have mail sorted automagically
[02:49] <Noxville> have a permanent ping running that connects only when you don't recieve ping
[02:49] <kamui> jrib: np
[02:49] <Noxville> any1 know perl?
[02:49] <Khamael> Warbo: found qemu-launcher, but it says it needs qemu. but I have qemu
[02:49] <ffDDu> anyone here know howto use regexp syntaxes
[02:50] <kamui> what DOES punjabi mean
[02:50] <wickedpuppy> Noxville, #perl
[02:50] <rambo3> !offtopic
[02:50] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:50] <kamui> ;)
[02:50] <jrib> ffDDu: probably a few people, what is your question? :)
[02:50] <Noxville> ah.. the light..
[02:50] <wols_> kamui: someone from punjab?
[02:50] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> nice. Punjab is  a place in Pakistan. I am from there.
[02:50] <ffDDu> i couldnt make rexexp that would take every .mp3 file that does not have (LOWQ) text in it
[02:50] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> LOL. Exactly. Punjab + People from There = Punjabis
[02:50] <WhiteDeth> question about xchat...
[02:50] <Warbo> Khamael: Yeah, I think I have a package of that. I don't know how I installed it (since I comnpiled my own qemu), I think maybe extracting it, changing the dependencies then repackaging it might work
[02:50] <jrib> ffDDu: in what context?
[02:50] <ffDDu> so .mp3 that DOES NOT have (lowq)
[02:50] <wedgeV> is there a repo that provides the latest alsa packages?
[02:50] <ffDDu> jrib in filename
[02:50] <rambo3> So when you call dell support you get to talk to family members ,
[02:51] <kamui> lolololololx, i suppose I've been lead astray
[02:51] <WhiteDeth> What can I do in xchat so it'll show me the status of the person im talking to? Like +o or +v etc??
[02:51] <jrib> ffDDu: what program are you using the regexp in?
[02:51] <Khamael> Warbo: think I`ll settle for a nice howto  ;-)
[02:51] <kamui> whihtedeth: xchat automatically colors nicks according to their status
[02:51] <ffDDu> jrib some download manager
[02:51] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> for all those curious bout me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punjabis
[02:51] <zaggynl> Is there a way to change the icon of an excisting Launcher, without having to create a new Launcher?
[02:51] <WhiteDeth> oh
[02:51] <ffDDu> i need regexp like: "This But Not This"
[02:51] <WhiteDeth> COLORS nicks.
[02:51] <WhiteDeth> so blue = +o?
[02:52] <wickedpuppy> zaggynl, right click and properties
[02:52] <ffDDu> so like "Make Excpetion When This
[02:52] <DBO> .cs o
[02:52] <Warbo> Khamael: All I remember is -hda for HD, -cdrom for CD (or use -hdc), -fda for floppy, -boot X to boot from device X in MSDOS style (a, c or d), and occasionally -soundhw sb16 (I think) for sound
[02:53] <zaggynl> wickedpuppy, okay
[02:53] <zaggynl> wickedpuppy, and then?
[02:53] <lupine_85> sd* can also be hard discs
[02:53] <Warbo> lupine_85: In Qemu?
[02:53] <lupine_85> oh, not sure then :)
[02:53] <wickedpuppy> zaggynl, click on the icon ?
[02:54] <kamui> whitedeath: I think the default is green is an op, yellow is +v.  Mine actually places a small circle next to the name in the users list, and when they send a message with my nick in it, the color of their nick at the beginning of the message is the color of their status.  Also dark grey nicks are AFK
[02:54] <lupine_85> depends on how it presents them I guess
[02:54] <zaggynl> ahhh
[02:54] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> is wine able to run any windows software?
[02:54] <Warbo> The - is because those are commandline options for Qemu :)
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, any as in all ? nope ...
[02:54] <zaggynl> wickedpuppy, didn't expect that, thanks :D
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> :P
[02:54] <lupine_85> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: it does notepad exceptionally well
[02:54] <POVaddct> lupine_85: qemu emulates ide harddisks only
[02:54] <lupine_85> ok, thanks :)
[02:54] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> LO
[02:54] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> LOL
[02:54] <Intimate`> Warbo: if you type in -hda does it take you to your hard drive ect.?
[02:54] <Warbo> Intimate`: You mean "qemu -hda XXXXXXX"?
[02:55] <DBO> argh!
[02:55] <Intimate`> Warbo: yah.. is it. qemu -hda c?
[02:55] <Warbo> It IS possible to use "qemu -hda /dev/hda" but not advised. If you run the same OS twice the filesystem becomes readonly and everything screws up :)
[02:55] <POVaddct> Intimate`: no, the -hda option requires a filename which is handles as a harddisk image
[02:55] <POVaddct> Intimate`: plus what Warbo said
[02:56] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> !LVM
[02:56] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[02:56] <ffDDu> hey someone help me with RegExp
[02:56] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> !RegExp
[02:56] <wedgeV> is there a repo that provides the latest alsa packages?
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about RegExp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <Intimate`> Thanks.
[02:56] <wickedpuppy> ffDDu, if i were you i ask in a programming channel ... honestly
[02:56] <Warbo> Intimate`: The "a", "c" and "d" are used for the -boot option, to make qemu boot floppy, HD or CD
[02:56] <ffDDu> wickedpuppy i dont know any
[02:56] <Intimate`> oh ok
[02:56] <wickedpuppy> #perl is a good start
[02:57] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> goodbye people. happy hacking.
[02:57] <POVaddct> !mmsrip
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mmsrip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <silent_scream> what is the difference between two kernels? i.e. 2.6.15 and 2.6.17 ?
[02:57] <lupine_85> silent_scream: lots :)
[02:58] <Lunar_Lamp> for xchat, is a there a package of sound files downloadable anywhere? it seems to have come by default without any sounds, and i want to use some (e.g. play sound on pm) etc?
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> silent_scream, 0.0.02
[02:58] <lupine_85> read the changelog if you're really interested
[02:58] <silent_scream> c'mon now.. :D
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> silent_scream: 0.0.02  :)
[02:58] <jUggERNAUt1980> hi all, can you see my message here?
[02:58] <Warbo> silent_scream: Various updates. For example, 2.6.15 doesn't contain ueagle-atm USB modem driver or CELL processor support, among other things
[02:58] <lupine_85> hang on, I'll paste it into the channel for you... ;)
[02:58] <lupine_85> (/k!)
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> jUggERNAUt1980, nope
[02:58] <POVaddct> wickedpuppy: hehehe. i'd say: diff -Nru linux-2.6.15 linux-2.6.17
[02:58] <Warbo> Actually it is 0.0.2
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> i can't see your message
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Some of are too literal
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> oh yah
[02:59] <wickedpuppy> pardon my math :P
[02:59] <silent_scream> Warbo, you mean some modules ha? is it faster or something?
[02:59] <jUggERNAUt1980> wickedpuppy, thanks:  ;)
[02:59] <Warbo> Mathematically .11 is "point one one", but since Linux gets updated so much it is more likely to be "point eleven"
[03:00] <jrib> ffDDu: yeah, I don't how to write a regex like that, usually you just tell the program to get the opposite, like grep -v would
[03:00] <silent_scream> Warbo, is there any topic to read in ubuntuforums for kernels?
[03:00] <Warbo> silent_scream: I'm sorry I don't go on the forums much. The main website for Linux is kernel.org
[03:00] <jUggERNAUt1980> i'm having some strange trouble with my local networking on my box
[03:01] <silent_scream> oh thnx Warbo
[03:02] <jUggERNAUt1980> when i enable both my wlan and eth interfaces at the same time, i can't get internet access through my wifi.
[03:02] <jUggERNAUt1980> any thoughts?
[03:02] <wols_> jUggERNAUt1980: defaultroute snafu
[03:02] <partha> jUggERNAUt1980, have you checked if the default route/gateway is set
[03:02] <Warbo> jUggERNAUt1980: Are you sure you have one of them set as the default gateway? (I would assume that ethernet takes precedence since it is faster)
[03:03] <jUggERNAUt1980> wols_, how would i go about fixin that then?
[03:03] <jUggERNAUt1980> my internet connection is via wifi, and i have my default gateway set to ath0, my wifi.
[03:03] <Warbo> jUggERNAUt1980: Are you using the regular System>Admin>Networking tool?
[03:03] <partha> jUggERNAUt1980, network settings->default gatewy
[03:03] <sheepy1988> hi folks, i'm having a problem with grub, anyone able to help?
[03:03] <Warbo> oh, OK forget me
[03:03] <partha> sheepy1988, just shoot
[03:03] <sheepy1988> huh?
[03:03] <Warbo> ask :)
[03:03] <partha> somebody might be of help
[03:03] <wols_> jUggERNAUt1980: editing /etc/network/interfaces. but first make sure it is actually the problem
[03:03] <sheepy1988> ah right lol
[03:03] <jUggERNAUt1980> i'm using both.  what i want to do is connect my friend's system to the internet through mine via connection sharing.
[03:03] <partha> yeah yeah ask
[03:03] <sheepy1988> i r mong
[03:04] <partha> :)
[03:04] <jUggERNAUt1980> i "acquire" my access through my neighbor's router.
[03:04] <Warbo> jUggERNAUt1980: you might need to set up a bridge
[03:04] <wols_> that's different: ubuntu-ics or ipmasq
[03:04] <Warbo> Firestarter can do it I think
[03:04] <sheepy1988> ok, so i've got ubuntu dapper set to boot using grub, but my family wants xp to boot because they dont like ubuntu. how do i go about changing the boot settings?
[03:04] <jUggERNAUt1980> warbo, how do i go about that?
[03:04] <jUggERNAUt1980> i'm a bit of a newbit.
[03:04] <partha> /boot/grub/menu.1st
[03:04] <wols_> jUggERNAUt1980: that's different: ubuntu-ics or ipmasq
[03:04] <chicken_Fire> hello! How can I list the dependencies of a deb?
[03:04] <Warbo> jUggERNAUt1980: Install the firestarter package, and it has a wizard to let you share connections
[03:05] <sheepy1988> problem is, when i try to access that and change it in a text editor it wont let me
[03:05] <m1sh-L> is fglrx the only ati driver for ubuntu or is there an other one?
[03:05] <sheepy1988> it says i'm not the owner
[03:05] <partha> sheepy1988, edit that file
[03:05] <wols_> sheepy1988: sudo naon /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:05] <partha> use sudo
[03:05] <wols_> sudo nano
[03:05] <partha> *nano
[03:05] <jUggERNAUt1980> firestarter said it can do it, but when i try to start the firewall, firestarter tells me that one of my devices isn't active
[03:05] <jazzrocker> use emacs os!
[03:05] <Warbo> "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[03:05] <oss> hi there
[03:05] <partha> hi
[03:05] <jUggERNAUt1980> but when i check administrator-->networking, it shows both as active.
[03:05] <oss> can you help me?
[03:06] <partha> about what??
[03:06] <Warbo> jUggERNAUt1980: Well I have never used firestarter for that myself, I just know it has the option, so I can't help you any further sorry :(
[03:06] <partha> wiht whaht
[03:06] <oss> how can I start in console with ubuntu?
[03:06] <Noxville> firestarter is shit ...
[03:06] <oss> at boot
[03:06] <wols_> !info ubuntu-ics
[03:06] <ubotu> Package ubuntu-ics does not exist in any distro I know
[03:06] <Noxville> !shit
[03:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:06] <wols_> !info ipmasq
[03:06] <ubotu> ipmasq: securely initializes IP Masquerade forwarding/firewalling. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.0.8-0.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 75 kB, installed size 612 kB
[03:06] <sheepy1988> what do i need to edit?
[03:06] <partha> there is an optiopn called default
[03:06] <partha> search for default
[03:06] <wols_> jUggERNAUt1980: use ipmasq
[03:06] <Warbo> sheepy1988: press alt-f2 and run "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[03:07] <Warbo> oops, I am lagging behind
[03:07] <Khamael> can I install software on a PalmOS device through qemu?
[03:07] <jrib> chicken_Fire: dpkg -I will give you that info for a .deb.  apt-cache depends package, works if it is in the repositories
[03:07] <partha> set saved as the option for default
[03:07] <partha> go to the end of the file
[03:07] <wols_> kamui: there are ways with linux native programs
[03:07] <partha> and for your windows xp entry just say savedefault
[03:08] <sheepy1988> ok, and how do i save the file?
[03:08] <partha> type in savedefault that is is
[03:08] <partha> if you are using gedit click save
[03:08] <partha> or ctrl-s should do
[03:08] <chicken_Fire> thx jrib
[03:09] <sheepy1988> i'm using nano
[03:09] <jrib> sheepy1988: ctrl-o saves, ctrl-x exits
[03:09] <partha> say ctrl-x
[03:09] <jUggERNAUt1980> by all acounts, everything i've done here works, but my eth0 and ath1 won't work when activated at the same time.
[03:09] <partha> and save
[03:09] <kamui> wols_: what did I ask?
[03:10] <sheepy1988> ok
[03:10] <Warbo> jUggERNAUt1980: Hang on, I will try and find the bridging wiki page...
[03:10] <sheepy1988> i think i've done it, i'm going to reboot
[03:10] <sheepy1988> thanks guys
[03:10] <jUggERNAUt1980> warbo, awesome!  thank you!
[03:11] <wols_> jUggERNAUt1980: which one is the defaultroute under "/sbin/route" when both are active?
[03:11] <rockzman> Can someone help me with Iptables?
[03:11] <wols_> rockzman: more specifics
[03:11] <rockzman> Sure
[03:12] <wols_> jUggERNAUt1980: cause if none of them works and won't let you go on the internet, then it's probably a route problem and bridging won't help a bit
[03:12] <rockzman> wols_ i have this http://pastebin.com/794701 firewall and my clients are not surfing
[03:12] <rockzman> can you check
[03:13] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i cant write to my fat32 partition. can anyone help?
[03:13] <wols_> jUggERNAUt1980: and to get your friend on the internet too via eth1 while you are connected to ath0 to the internet, you will need ipmasquerading or bridging
[03:13] <plb> Anyone know whats going on with the whole firefox name change thing?
[03:13] <wols_> rockzman: install ipmasq
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: yes I can write to my fat32
[03:13] <fbenites> hi
[03:13] <Warbo> OK the address for this is weird so it may not work for you, but what the hell https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecentChanges/BridgingNetworkInterfaces?highlight=%28bridg%29
[03:13] <fbenites> hi! i installed blender in ubuntu, and somehow it doesnt show really good
[03:13] <jUggERNAUt1980> wols_, i tried iqmasq and dnsmasq, but that didn't work yet, either.
[03:13] <fbenites> i cant select anything... i can just quit with the short cuts
[03:13] <rockzman> wols_ and ipmasq is?
[03:13] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i used the diskmount utility. but still. cant write to fat32
[03:14] <Warbo> fbenites: Have you used it before? The interface is weird
[03:14] <partha> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, u probablu need to sudo
[03:14] <wols_> jUggERNAUt1980: answer my question
[03:14] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> how ?
[03:14] <partha> rather you *need* to sudo
[03:14] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> how to write using console? i dont know
[03:14] <partha> what exactly are you trying to do?
[03:14] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i downloaded a song in Linux. now i want to move it the songs collection.
[03:14] <sheepy1988> didnt work =(
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: Please post your fstab to the !Pastebin.
[03:15] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> which is on a fat32 partition
[03:15] <wols_> rockzman: NAT
[03:15] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok wait
[03:15] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> !pastebin
[03:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:15] <wols_> !info ipmasq
[03:15] <ubotu> ipmasq: securely initializes IP Masquerade forwarding/firewalling. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.0.8-0.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 75 kB, installed size 612 kB
[03:15] <partha> sheepy1988, can you put your menu.1st file in pastebin
[03:15] <Warbo> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: Check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands (I think it is)
[03:15] <rockzman> wols_ u dont know just how to fix my iptables?
[03:16] <kippi> hey
[03:16] <wols_> rockzman: no. and I don't want to tbh
[03:16] <Warbo> lst = abbreiviation of "list", not first
[03:16] <kippi> could someone help me with a mysql starting problem?
[03:16] <rockzman> wols_ ok "thanks"
[03:16] <fbenites> Warbo: sure, it is pretty good, in my gentoo, or my notebook ubuntu
[03:16] <partha> ooeps sorry - type wols_ thanks for pointing it out
[03:16] <partha> menu.lst
[03:16] <rockzman> can someone support me with an iptables script?
[03:16] <wols_> rockzman: the chance you getting help in here is about 1% or less with an iptables problem. ask #iptables
[03:17] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> people : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d24878
[03:17] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> please help! unable to write to fat32 partition, moutned
[03:18] <Warbo> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: "cd /wherever/it/is/mounted && sudo cp /the/path/to/your/song.mp3 ."
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Warbo: THis one works well also  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[03:18] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> warbo: thanks buddy
[03:18] <rambo3> sudo cp wont work
[03:18] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> oh
[03:18] <Warbo> ?
[03:18] <lupine_85> ...yes it will...
[03:19] <SyborfI> .
[03:19] <plb> Hrm wonder if firefox name change will effect edgy release date
[03:19] <SyborfI> heya
[03:19] <Warbo> Firefox name change? Again?
[03:19] <lupine_85> doubt it
[03:19] <partha> sheepy1988, can u put the contents of your /boot/grub/menu.lst in pastebin
[03:19] <plb> Warbo: we are not allowed to use the name firefox
[03:19] <plb> debian..ubuntu that is
[03:20] <Warbo> Didn't they eventually settle on Firefox because it didn't infringe anyone else's copyrights?
[03:20] <sheepy1988> how do i do that? i'm new to ubuntu so you'll have to go slow with me =P
[03:20] <lupine_85> it's the logo that's the problem
[03:20] <lupine_85> TBH, FireFox isn't really free anymore
[03:20] <plb> Warbo: only debian and ubuntu cannot use the name firefox anymore
[03:20] <plb> because of their crap logo
[03:20] <Warbo> All the more reason to use Epiphany :)
[03:20] <lupine_85> but since Ubuntu doesn't follow the DFSG, they can use the logo...
[03:21] <fbenites> can somebody help me with the blender issue?
[03:21] <sheepy1988> right now i'm in sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:21] <Warbo> Oh, it is a Debian decision? I respect that. If it was Mozilla being petty then I would be a little miffed
[03:21] <plb> lupine_85: it doesn't? last I checked Ubuntu didn't allow nonfree stuff into their official repos
[03:21] <jrib> I think the logo can't be used if it isn't an official release from mozilla?
[03:21] <sheepy1988> and i dont know what i have to edit
[03:21] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> hey worked! Thanks.
[03:21] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> isnt there any way to do it using GUI
[03:21] <partha> sheepy1988, what changes did you make last time
[03:21] <lupine_85> plb: true-ish
[03:21] <lupine_85> it's a tiny png, for crying out loud ;)
[03:22] <plb> lupine_85: now that mozilla is crying about it though...it is nonfree
[03:22] <sheepy1988> # groot=(hd0,1) to # groot=(hd0,0)
[03:22] <wedgeV> you can't use the name firefox without using the official mozilla firefox logo
[03:22] <Warbo> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: I would add the option "uid=yourusername" to the mount option of the drive (I know how to do that for manually mounting, and fstab, but nothing else)
[03:22] <lupine_85> ubuntu don't follow the DFSG as strictly as debian, so they could probably use the logo
[03:22] <plb> lupine_85: they wont
[03:22] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> warbo: thanks.
[03:22] <sheepy1988> 0,1 is ubuntu and 0,0 is windows xp
[03:22] <plb> lupine_85: mark won't allow non-free stuff into the repo
[03:22] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> goodbye
[03:22] <partha> nope
[03:22] <lupine_85> meh
[03:22] <partha> thats not the one u need to do
[03:23] <partha> you need to change the option called 'default'
[03:23] <sheepy1988> dammit
[03:23] <partha> could you please revert those changes you did last
[03:23] <plb> wonder why mozilla is being a bunch of wankers now
[03:23] <wedgeV> they are not
[03:23] <Admiral_Chicago> please use #ubuntu-offtopic people
[03:24] <Warbo> It seems like Debian and Ubuntu are being very strict in their Freedom, which I respect
[03:24] <Warbo> OK, OK, offtopic
[03:24] <sheepy1988> is it "default num" i need to change?
[03:24] <partha> yup sheepy1988
[03:24] <partha> thats right
[03:24] <loudmouthman> okay ... probably a question for which i can expect to get FLAC .. but how/where can I get sound juicer to allow me to extract to MP3 directly ?
[03:24] <WhiteDeth> Anyone got suggestions for a download manager like FlashGet?
[03:24] <sheepy1988> ok, what do i change?
[03:24] <jUggERNAUt1980> wols_, i opened /sbin/route but it was full of characters that i couldn't make heads or tails of.
[03:25] <wols_> jUggERNAUt1980: run it, not opening it...
[03:25] <frogzoo> loudmouthman: you select mp3 as the format & rip
[03:25] <partha> what you could do is set the default to saved
[03:25] <partha> i.e 'default saved'
[03:25] <loudmouthman> hmm its not in the list of choices to export/extract
[03:25] <partha> whatever is within the quotes
[03:25] <loudmouthman> ive just located the ubtuntu forums thingy !
[03:25] <jUggERNAUt1980> wols_, hold on.
[03:25] <partha> and then scroll down to the windows xp list entry you have
[03:26] <sheepy1988> it says "default        0" but not in quotes
[03:26] <POVaddct> jUggERNAUt1980: i suspect you have actually _two_ default routes, which can lead to unexpected results
[03:26] <Warbo> OK, I am getting confused reading this and listening to podcasts, so I'll be back later :)
[03:26] <lupine_85> ...
[03:26] <wols_> POVaddct: if you add a new default, the old one gets overwritten. you can never have more than two
[03:27] <lupine_85> ip route show
[03:27] <lupine_85> pastebin it
[03:27] <wols_> POVaddct: never more than one that is
[03:27] <jUggERNAUt1980> POVaddct, how do i find that out?
[03:27] <jUggERNAUt1980> wols_, there is no such file.
[03:27] <wols_> jUggERNAUt1980: with /sbin/route
[03:27] <lupine_85> jUggERNAUt1980: ^ that %
[03:27] <sheepy1988> so where it says "default         0" i changed it to saved?
[03:27] <lupine_85> route is obsolete :)
[03:27] <partha> sheepy1988, thats right
[03:27] <partha> change the 0 to saved
[03:28] <salah14> g
[03:28] <sheepy1988> and then i save that?
[03:28] <edomachado> hi any speek spanish
[03:28] <POVaddct> wols_: i thought so in the past, but multiple instances of dhclient3 (on eth0 and eth1 for example) can really set _two_ default routes
[03:28] <GillaGal> When I click on the Update Manager icon in my system tray, it trys to run but then dies. Any idea why?  (Just started happening out of the blue)
[03:28] <Dink> !sp
[03:28] <ubotu> sp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-46ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 169 kB, installed size 592 kB
[03:28] <fyrestrtr> !es
[03:28] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:28] <salah14> iooooooooooooou
[03:28] <wols_> !es
[03:28] <salah14> iiiiiiiiii
[03:28] <POVaddct> jUggERNAUt1980: run: route -n
[03:28] <edomachado> what can i do
[03:28] <fbenites> support for matrox g550 is very poor! glxheads has graphic problems...
[03:29] <wols_> !es > edomachado
[03:29] <sheepy1988> ok i've saved it
[03:29] <edomachado> i dont speak english so good
[03:29] <partha> sheepy1988, good
[03:29] <partha> you need to go further down your file
[03:29] <sheepy1988> ok
[03:29] <partha> and find the windows xp entry for grub
[03:29] <juanma_> edomachado, que te dicen que vayas a #ubuntu-es
[03:30] <sheepy1988> where it gives you the chain loader, makeactive etc?
[03:30] <partha> yeah
[03:30] <edomachado> thank you i have dont read bye
[03:30] <partha> thats right
[03:30] <britt> Is there a kernel for the crusoe processor?
[03:30] <GillaGal> When I click on the Update Manager icon in my system tray, it trys to run but then dies. Any idea why?  (Just started happening out of the blue)
[03:31] <sheepy1988> ok i'm there
[03:31] <partha> so at the end of the section add the line savedefault
[03:31] <sheepy1988> savedefault is already there
[03:31] <jUggERNAUt1980> here's the pastebin!!!  http://pastebin.ca/182908
[03:31] <partha> and remove the savedefult lines for other entries
[03:31] <Khamael> can`t I use a usb PalmOS with qemu?
[03:32] <wols_> jUggERNAUt1980: what about your eth interface? is it up while taking this paste?
[03:32] <zappe> wols_, yes.. cyrus.conf is in /etc ?
[03:32] <jUggERNAUt1980> wols_, no, i won't be able to xchat with it up.
[03:32] <wols_> jUggERNAUt1980: this paste is useless
[03:33] <sheepy1988> ok done
[03:33] <jUggERNAUt1980> argh1!!!!  i'll enable, run those commands, then i'll be back.
[03:33] <wols_> zappe: then the grep will produce a result line, since there are several "lmtp" in cyrus.cfong
[03:33] <wols_> grep -r -i lmtp /etc/*
[03:33] <partha> sheepy1988, save and exit
[03:33] <partha> and reboot
[03:33] <sheepy1988> ok, i'll be back soon
[03:33] <sheepy1988> thanks mate
[03:33] <partha> actually i have a strange problem something on those lines jUggERNAUt1980
[03:34] <grendelson> (Question re: migration) I have a debian testing system and use LVM - I want to move to Ubuntu and want to know if I can just install over the top of my susyte,/  home, var, tmp, opt, usr  are all on lvolumes.  / is not and I probably need to make it larger than the 220MB it is now...
[03:34] <POVaddct> wols_: i still suspend he is using dhcp for both interfaces. which is a bad idea for a router.
[03:34] <POVaddct> s/suspend/suspect
[03:34] <partha> i have a dsl modem
[03:34] <zappe> wols_, trying.. guess it takes some time
[03:34] <grendelson> I would prefer to keep home and opt intact (as well as var since i now have some web stuff there...
[03:34] <partha> and then i have my wireless router which connets to the dsl modem
[03:35] <wols_> POVaddct: he is no real router. yet. also he mooches of his neighbour's wireless. or so he says
[03:35] <partha> dsl modem->wireless router
[03:35] <grendelson> Better yet is ther a DEbian to Ubuntu migration guide /
[03:35] <POVaddct> wols_: what is "mooch"?
[03:35] <wols_> POVaddct: "steal" in this case
[03:35] <grendelson> mooch == use without asking :-)
[03:35] <elddik> Hi. I'm using putty to ssh to a (6.06) LAMP server w/ zenoss, however the session suddenly dies and i can no longer establish any network connections for 5-10 minutes.
[03:36] <partha> now i have this strange problem that i cant set the gateway on my machine to the dsl modem
[03:36] <POVaddct> wols_: okay. but i understand he wants to route his neighbor through his machine to the internet?
[03:36] <partha> it always takes the ip of the router as the gateway
[03:36] <partha> and that sux
[03:36] <elddik> Can anyone advise or point me to proper docs? (sorry to jump in w/ a nasty newbie=ish question)
[03:36] <wols_> partha: cause that gateway would be very wrong. your router is your gateway. and the dslmodem must work in bridge or passthru mode
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> plb: MAy I pm you about the firefox logo thing?
[03:36] <wols_> elddik: proper docs for what?
[03:36] <elddik> also, i set TCPKeepAlive to yes in the sshd_config and set putty to process keepalives
[03:37] <wols_> ah. that one
[03:37] <partha> wols_, ah!
[03:37] <lupine_85> POVaddct: for that he'd need a static route, surely?
[03:37] <plb> Jack_Sparrow: we are talking about in it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:37] <plb> go there
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[03:37] <ulfar> elddik: thats weird
[03:37] <GillaGal> When I click on the Update Manager icon in my system tray, it trys to run but then dies. Any idea why?  (Just started happening out of the blue)
[03:38] <sheepy1988> didnt work partha
[03:38] <elddik> i notice sshd_config as configured by ubuntu sets KeepAlive (but the man says TCPKeepAlive)
[03:38] <POVaddct> lupine_85: one of his interfaces should have a fixed ip address for that
[03:38] <vega-> i upgraded from dapper -> edgy and now even ls command doesn't work:
[03:38] <vega-> error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:38] <vega-> any ideas?
[03:38] <vega-> works in safe mode though
[03:38] <elddik> ulfar: more's the worry, cos i'm not at the office and i don't have acess to the bloody box to poke around in person
[03:39] <POVaddct> lupine_85: otherwise the other computer using his machine as a router always has to guess his ip address
[03:39] <elddik> ulfar: ... though I'm 5 days old ubuntu lover
[03:39] <TheGateKeeper> vega-: you might have more luck with the edge folks in ubuntu+1
[03:41] <chicken_Fire> how can I avoid the removal of egroupware when I update from php4 to php5 (the egroupware-core .deb depends on libapache2-mod-php4, but the egroupware team reports php5 beeing ok...)
[03:41] <ulfar> elddik: is it only the connection to your box that loses network once in a while ?
[03:41] <zappe> wols_, this is the lines i get in cyrus.conf ... http://pastebin.ca/182918
[03:42] <chicken_Fire> apt-get install --donotremovestuff libapache2-mod-php5 or so?
[03:42] <wols_> zappe: I didn't ask for cyrus conf. I asked for all your /etc
[03:42] <lupine_85> POVaddct: you can do static routes for IP ranges as well
[03:42] <wols_> since you apparently don't know if you have inetd.conf or xinetd.conf or whatever
[03:43] <sheepy1988> Partha, it didnt work
[03:43] <zappe> wols_, well. this then. http://pastebin.ca/182920
[03:43] <POVaddct> lupine_85: but a route with a gateway needs exactly one gw ip adresse, and that has to be known
[03:44] <wols_> zappe: best ask the cyrus mailinglist then or search google. no clue what it could be then
[03:44] <zappe> wols_, okey :/ thanks anyway
[03:44] <wols_> the only problem I had with lmtp was the postfix chroot
[03:44] <britt_> how well does mythtv work?
[03:45] <l-fy> hello
[03:45] <britt_> and do you all think a Athlon x2 4200+ is enough for mythtv
[03:45] <l-fy> where is plpgsql in ubuntu located? in which packet?
[03:45] <vega-> TheGateKeeper: ok thanks
[03:45] <wols_> britt_: it's overkill
[03:45] <britt_> ;)
[03:45] <TheGateKeeper> vega-: just hope they can help you
[03:46] <lupine_85> POVaddct: of course. gateways should always be static
[03:46] <britt_> wols_: i think i might have to dual boot linux and windows, so I can play some games.
[03:46] <wols_> britt_: a hauppauge PVR or similar or best tho
[03:46] <britt_> I would guess then that a P4 1.6Ghz doesnt have enough to run it
[03:46] <vega-> TheGateKeeper: we'll see, not that important anyway it's a test machine but just curious :)
[03:46] <grendelson> Sorry was AFK - I was asking if LVM volumed in debian could jsut be used in place installing Ubuntu over the top of a debian tesrting install?
[03:46] <britt_> wols_: i was planning on using the PVR-250
[03:47] <wols_> britt_: you'd guess wrong. a P3 1GHz could run it
[03:47] <britt_> wow
[03:47] <wols_> and if you use a PVR250, the CPU doesn't matter at all
[03:47] <britt_> i plan on using two of them
[03:47] <wols_> a PVR encrypts on its own
[03:47] <britt_> one for recording and one for viewing
[03:47] <wols_> erm, compresses
[03:47] <britt_> wols_: thats what i thought, hardware MPEG2 encoder
[03:47] <wols_> people with PVRs often use a Via C3
[03:48] <wols_> quieter, less power
[03:48] <britt_> nice and quiet eh?
[03:48] <POVaddct> lupine_85: that's what i am talking about. and i guess Juggernaut1980 wants to use a machine as gateway that gets ip addresses for both interfaces via dhcp, which is no good idea.
[03:48] <lupine_85> indeed
[03:48] <britt_> intresting
[03:48] <lupine_85> unless the leases are unlimited time, of course
[03:48] <TheGateKeeper> vega-: hope they sort it out when it comes time for the rest of us to do it for real
[03:48] <quiet> britt_, sure is. ;)
[03:48] <POVaddct> lupine_85: yeah
[03:49] <britt_> I have a p4 1.6 just doing nothing, maybe I will put that to use. ANything I should know? Does it just simply install as a module in apt-get
[03:49] <zaggynl> !windows
[03:49] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[03:49] <zaggynl> hahaha
[03:49] <zaggynl> 'nearest mental health institute'
[03:50] <wols_> britt_: it's not. you will need ivtv for your pvr which is a kernel module
[03:50] <vega-> TheGateKeeper: yea, although it can be my mistake also :)
[03:50] <Alan-D> I have questions concerning a Ubuntu server in a Windows 2003 environment.  Is somebody available to answer some questions?
[03:51] <TheGateKeeper> vega-: :-)
[03:51] <britt_> wols_: seems like the most expensive part now is the PVR0250s
[03:51] <wols_> no. with a C3 the most expensive part is usually the case
[03:51] <wols_> or the C3+mobo: they're not cheap either
[03:51] <chicken_Fire>  - Ubuntu dapper problem: I need php5 for php things, using the new xml parser of php5. I need to keep egroupware running, however, the egroupware deb depends on php4 only.
[03:51] <britt_> newegg has those?
[03:51] <chicken_Fire>  can I force egroupware and php5? (apt-get --forceblabla xxx)
[03:52] <no-use> because of some changes on the xgl repositories i can't install compiz-plugins using apt. But does someone knows where i can get the .deb file i need?
[03:52] <pmpfe> hi there
[03:53] <pmpfe> is there a way to monitor installed packages on multiple machines?
[03:53] <britt_> !hi
[03:53] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to $chan!
[03:53] <grendelson> Is there a specific channel to ask more technical installation or migration from other Linux questions?
[03:53] <pmpfe> like a sinaptic that controls several computers
[03:53] <gonzalo> hola
[03:53] <gonzalo> hola
[03:53] <gonzalo> hi
[03:53] <jhasse> Is there a possibility to give a game a higher network priority, so that i can download and play at the same time?
[03:53] <wols_> jhasse: wondershaper. or www.lartc.org for more advanced things
[03:54] <gonzalo> SUCK MY PENIS
[03:54] <chillmod2> how to  install grafic drivers?i got ubuntut and the screensaver is slow and some more things slow...i got a ati rage mobility agp 2X.. and i downloaded the drivers from dell's site.. the drivers are from 2001 and its a rmps. file
[03:54] <gonzalo> SON OF A BITCH
[03:54] <lupine_85> slurp
[03:54] <lupine_85> mmmmm chipolata
[03:54] <gonzalo> mmmm tu hermana
[03:54] <lupine_85> plonk
[03:54] <gonzalo> mmmmm your sister
[03:54] <Juhaz> !ops
[03:54] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[03:55] <gonzalo> hola
[03:55] <gonzalo> hi
[03:55] <jhasse> wols_, thx
[03:55] <gonzalo> ddd
[03:55] <Hobbsee> gone
[03:55] <britt_> yea!!
[03:55] <TuxthePenguin84> haha
[03:55] <lupine_85> Hobbsee++
[03:55] <Alan-D> I have setup a share via samba in a windows 2003 environment, but I cannot authicate the users on the windows server to be able to access the share with write priv.  Anybody any ideas?
[03:55] <POVaddct> r.i.p. gonzalo :)
[03:55] <lupine_85> Alan-D: the wiki
[03:55] <britt_> I saw the mode and some wierd stuff happen and I knew what was happening next :D
[03:56] <Alan-D> Which wiki?
[03:56] <Hobbsee> bugger.
[03:56] <britt_> Alan-D: are your users properly conifgured
[03:56] <lupine_85> http://help.ubuntu.com/ it's  a common issue
[03:56] <Alan-D> On the windows server ,yes.
[03:56] <POVaddct> (actually r.i.p. means: rest in pieces  *g*)
[03:56] <wols_> Alan-D: he means on the samba one
[03:56] <Hobbsee> hmm...
[03:56] <britt_> Alan-D: yeah
[03:56] <Alan-D> Do I need to configer users on the ubuntu server?
[03:57] <britt_> Alan-D: I alwasy have used SWAT. It works pretty well and provides a web frontend to samba
[03:57] <wols_> Alan-D: yes
[03:57] <wols_> Alan-D: and set passwords too probably smbpassef
[03:57] <wols_> smbpasswd
[03:57] <l-fy> ok
[03:57] <britt_> Alan-D: specific users have to be told they have read/write access to that share, otherwise nobody has any access
[03:57] <quiet> swat is not real safe... but if security isn't a concern.. go ahead.
[03:57] <l-fy> ubuntu suxx
[03:58] <djvdorp> l-fy: WTF why?
[03:58] <lupine_85> IRC worzzzzz!!!won!!
[03:58] <Alan-D> I was hoping to create a group and add the windows user to that group, in that possible?
[03:58] <Hobbsee> it doesnt do what i wanted it to.  grumble.
[03:58] <britt_> quiet: intresting. I figured if I didnt allow remote access, I would be fine. I am using it on a remote server for a client
[03:59] <britt_> quiet: that box is behind a firewall anyway
[04:00] <quiet> britt_, how do you get to it then?
[04:00] <britt_> well I connect via ssh with xforwarding
[04:00] <britt_> open a firefox window
[04:00] <cpw> djvdorp: I wouldn't take the intellectual opinion of anyone saying something "suxx" to sway you into what distro to use
[04:01] <britt_> and use the localhost access to swat
[04:01] <Canuck> G'morning, does anyone know of a better file system than nautilus, one with photo previews and memory indication by file?
[04:01] <britt_> cpw: lol.
[04:01] <cpw> djvdorp: his intelligent speech patterns seems to indicate someone that had no idea what they were doing and blames it on something else
[04:01] <Ben81> how can i install a bittorrent server please ?
[04:01] <britt_> Canuck: natulis is a file manager, not a file system
[04:02] <chtank> is anyone here?
[04:02] <fyrestrtr> Ben81: there is no such thing a bittorrent server, all you need is a tracker.
[04:02] <POVaddct> britt_: you could also use ssh with port forwarding (not X forwarding) and run firefox locally (less bandwidth)
[04:02] <britt_> Canuck: i've always just learned to deal with Natulis
[04:02] <michael> when i want to modify my printer cups is asking for a username and a password, but i have no idea which one it means
[04:02] <michael> any hints ?
[04:02] <cpw> anyways, time for work :X
[04:02] <agwibowo> hello
[04:02] <Ben81> fyrestrtr, yes but is there a package for this ?
[04:02] <britt_> POVaddct: Im confused
[04:02] <Emanuele11> ben81: Do you want to became a bittorrent server or just download???
[04:02] <quiet> britt_, you're probably okay. There have just been known security issues with SWAT and that other web front-end for system management stuff... mostly because it requires the server to be running with root privliges.. so when exploitable bugs are found, they can be rather serious.
[04:03] <fyrestrtr> Ben81: the default bittorrent packet provides this, iirc. If you want an easy way, use azureus.
[04:03] <Ben81> Emanuele11, i want to be a tracker
[04:03] <Canuck> britt: That's your preference, not mine
[04:03] <Ben81> fyrestrtr, consoel only :)
[04:03] <Ben81> fyrestrtr, console only :) (sorry)
[04:03] <POVaddct> britt_: you would say: ssh -L 9001:localhost:901 user@host   and then run firefox locally connecting to http://localhost:9001/
[04:03] <fyrestrtr> there are bitorrent tools for the client too, just hit bt<tab> :)
[04:04] <wols_> Ben81: default bittorrent is console only
[04:04] <Ben81> wolki, yes but i dont't think it will auto install some script in /etc/init.d
[04:04] <Intimate`> would I be able to get mIRC for ubuntu?
[04:04] <britt_> quiet: well the 'client' is a friend of mine, and he's a complete idiot. If there was a problem come up, I'm sure that he would be the one to mess thigns up, not a security issue
[04:04] <britt_> Canuck: sorry man, I wasnt really finished.
[04:04] <wickedpuppy> Intimate`, use xchat ?
[04:04] <chtank> please give me a PM channel if anyone wishes to help
[04:05] <POVaddct> Intimate`: mIRC is windows only. you could run it in wine, but why use mIRC anyway?
[04:05] <agwibowo> !
[04:05] <britt_> Canuck: i'm sure someone will pop in, but have you used synaptic to look at other file managers
[04:05] <quiet> mIRC is garbage.
[04:05] <Volstrup> are anyone able to help me correct my xterm with special localized characters? When I use one of them my terminal gets screwed up, and I have to start all over my typing.
[04:05] <Intimate`> hmmm
[04:05] <quiet> irssi is where it's at.
[04:05] <britt_> quiet: agreed :)
[04:05] <Intimate`> POVaddct: mIRC is better :) lol
[04:05] <agwibowo> hello
[04:05] <dbzdeath> hey i'm having speed issues when playing 720p x264 on mplayer and i'm on an athlon 64 3800+ x2 could anyone give me some advice for getting smooth playback?
[04:05] <agwibowo> can anyone see my message?
[04:05] <quiet> on windows i usually use xchat.
[04:05] <POVaddct> Intimate`: i disagree
[04:05] <Intimate`> POVaddct: why so?
[04:05] <Canuck> britt: yes and google without much of a difference I can see off hand eh
[04:05] <britt_> dbzdeath: what video card are you using
[04:05] <wickedpuppy> agwibowo, nope
[04:05] <chicken_Fire>  can I force egroupware and php5? (apt-get --forceblabla xxx)
[04:05] <chtank> mIRC is the most popular of all IRC clients, but many are moving to xChat
[04:05] <chicken_Fire> in other words: how do I avoid the removal of a package when I upate from php4 to php5?
[04:06] <POVaddct> Intimate`: i use irssi and irssi only
[04:06] <britt_> Canuck: there's one i like that runs on xfce
[04:06] <dbzdeath> britt_: geforce 6800 GS
[04:06] <chicken_Fire> the apt-get --no-remove will just break with a message like "need to be removed but remove is disabled.
[04:06] <agwibowo> coz i'm using ircii.. not sure how to use it yet..
[04:06] <britt_> Canuck: unfortunately, i'm not on that box
[04:06] <britt_> dbzdeath: latest linux drivers?
[04:06] <wickedpuppy> agwibowo, i repeat .. nobody can see what you are typing ..
[04:06] <dbzdeath> britt_: latest in the ubuntu universe repos
[04:06] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:06] <britt_> dbzdeath: hmm...
[04:06] <Canuck> britt: no worries will use the forums isntead
[04:06] <britt_> dbzdeath: what kernel?
[04:07] <dbzdeath> britt_: it seems to be in scenes with a lot of movement like where there was water flowing
[04:07] <quiet> xmoto 0.2.1 is kind of wierd.
[04:07] <quiet> :\
[04:07] <dbzdeath> britt_: um just a tick
[04:07] <lupine_85> xmoto++
[04:07] <dbzdeath> britt_: 2.6.15-27-k7
[04:08] <britt_> dbzdeath: intresting. seems like your cpu would have enough gut to be fine. although that resolution is quite intense
[04:08] <britt_> :o
[04:08] <britt_> class!
[04:08] <britt_> later people :)
[04:08] <dbzdeath> britt_: it should have enough even athlon xps can handle it AFAIK
[04:08] <[eDu] > hi
[04:09] <Alan-D> Can some explain to me how to give write access to a shared dossier?  Do I have to set the access on the dossier itself?
[04:09] <jay_> Someone says there is bug when inputing chinese with emacs in gnome, is it?
[04:09] <dbzdeath> mmm well does anyone know anything that could possibly help me?
[04:10] <chtank> I am looking for help, too, if any Ubuntu experts are here, please PM me
[04:10] <youssefassad[1] > quick ubuntu installer question in gparted, the fat32 drive has an icon with an exclamation mark on it, and I can't resize it. mount says it isn't mounted. Ideas?
[04:11] <chtank> guess not, I now shall look elsewheere or suggest my client use a different desktop release
[04:11] <chtank> thanks for hte non-help
[04:11] <finalbeta> just ask the question
[04:11] <finalbeta> don't ask to pm
[04:11] <lupine_85> !volunteers
[04:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about volunteers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:11] <finalbeta> or ask to ask
[04:11] <finalbeta> !ask
[04:11] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:11] <lupine_85> !volunteer
[04:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about volunteer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:11] <lupine_85> !patience
[04:11] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:12] <lupine_85> my ubotu-fu is down today :(
[04:12] <chtank> finalbeta I cannot follow in here, too many people
[04:12] <finalbeta> i can't talk right now, got an ice cream in my hand
[04:12] <finalbeta> 3 min
[04:12] <finalbeta> :p
[04:13] <youssefassad[1] > I really dont think behavior like "either you support me the way i want or i throw a tantrum" should be rewarded
[04:14] <lupine_85> could always buy a commercial support contract? ;)
[04:14] <youssefassad[1] > for example
[04:15] <jazzrocker> jay_, use vim
[04:15] <jazzrocker> jay_, emacs--, vim++
[04:15] <chtank> hey, we provide web services for the handicapped, who are the forgotten of the world, all our servers are on Linux and we are trying to get the handicapped moved to LInux, too, now, you can e-mail me at chtank@tke-haaai.org if you are willing to volunteer some little help
[04:16] <ru> hello all, how install eclipse without gij in ubuntu6.06 ?
[04:16] <t3nxt> i installed kubuntu but i didn't like it so i installed ubuntu using apt-get ubuntu-desktop... how can i erase all the kde stuff?
[04:16] <erUSUL> !java
[04:16] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:16] <wols_> apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[04:17] <t3nxt> ty
[04:17] <michael> when i want to modify my printer cups is asking for a username and a password, but i have no idea which one it means
[04:17] <lupine_85> cupsys:cupsys ?
[04:17] <erUSUL> wols_: that will only remove the metapackage
[04:17] <Alan-D> How can give a group write access to a dossier?
[04:17] <ru> i alreay install java. but eclipse install want to install gij (openoffice not require it now)
[04:17] <youssefassad[1] > hm, maybe if I run gparted from the command line...
[04:17] <erUSUL> michael: web interface?
[04:17] <wols_> erUSUL: then remove kdelbis4
[04:18] <michael> erUSUL, yes i use the http://localhost webinterface
[04:18] <erUSUL> michael: the cups web interface in ubuntu is non functional
[04:18] <michael> erUSUL, that means.... ?
[04:18] <erUSUL> michael: you have to enabel it. there is a page in the wiki. hang on a minute
[04:18] <michael> ok
[04:18] <robin> Hi does anyone know if there is a boxed Linux ready to go version of DOOM 3?
[04:19] <cdavis> can rhythmbox manage songs on my ipod
[04:19] <erUSUL> michael: or use System>Admin>Printers
[04:19] <robin> cdavis: Yes
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> robin, you mean can any linux distro play doom 3 out of the box ?
[04:19] <erUSUL> michael: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrintingCupsWebInterface
[04:20] <tengil> i have apache2 working with mysql and php and such and i just installed tomcat. anyone wanna tell me what i need to configure after tomcat is installed. its started but buy the looks of things i cant connect to it now
[04:20] <robin> wickedpuppy: No, if there is any DOOM 3 dist that has the linux patch as deafult
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> i am lost ... perhaps others can help ya :P
[04:20] <wols_> robin: ask id games or activision. we don't know
[04:21] <robin> wols_: ok
[04:24] <michael> erUSUL, it works, thank you a lot
[04:26] <deep__> #ubuntu-se
[04:26] <deep__> sry
[04:29] <Alan-D> How can assign write access to dossier for a group?  Anyone plase
[04:30] <cdavis> I can't seem to figure out how to put mp3 on my ipod via rhtymbox?
[04:30] <cdavis> I can see all the songs on the ipod and even play them on my computer but I cannot seem to be able to add mp3s to the ipod
[04:31] <Overand> !ipod
[04:31] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[04:31] <cdavis> thanks
[04:32] <fyrestrtr> do you need something special on your motherboard to run SLI-enabled cards?
[04:33] <cdavis> I think you need a sli compatible board, is that what you mean?
[04:35] <iratik> The time is wrong on our system
[04:35] <iratik> IT tried /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh restart
[04:35] <diswill> .
[04:35] <fyrestrtr> yeah, but what is that exactly?
[04:35] <iratik> but didn't work
[04:36] <finalbeta> iratik, you have a dell laptop?
[04:36] <iratik> no, acer laptop
[04:36] <finalbeta> ke, because a bug was posted ubuntu corrupted the HW clock on dells
[04:36] <iratik> I'm not sure whether to set it to UTC or CDT - but either way - there are date issues all over the place with time
[04:36] <nek_> espaol?
[04:36] <iratik> mysql time seems off
[04:36] <lupine_85> !es
[04:36] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:36] <nek_> thk
[04:37] <iratik> So, there must be a command that resyncs the clock (initially I believe I chose UTC, so I would try to reset it to UTC)
[04:37] <iratik> strangely, I can't find any documentation on actually reseting the clock
[04:37] <iratik> only documentation on not reseting the clock to UTC (which is exactly what I want to do)
[04:38] <TimothyP> Hi, does anybody know if it's possible to use a Storageworks Ultrium 448 on ubuntu ?
[04:38] <iratik> So --   I know there has gotta be someone who knows how to do this - reset the clock to UTC?
[04:38] <wols_> iratik: /etc/default/rcS
[04:39] <iratik> command not found
[04:39] <iratik> i'm on dapper
[04:39] <wols_> iratik: it's a file. edit it
[04:39] <iratik> quoi
[04:39] <wols_> pardon?
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> iratik: How about right click on clock and go to preferences?
[04:40] <txoof_> what is the metapackage that will install gnome and all that goes with it?
[04:40] <iratik> I'm on a server, not a gui
[04:40] <ITS_FOR_REAL> need a archive/compression program that can make split size files in rar or zip. preferable easy install and gui.
[04:40] <wols_> txoof_: ubuntu-desktop
[04:41] <iratik> And wols_ I hope those aren't the same instructions for "How to disable system time/date from being reset to UTC" because thats the exact opposite of what I need to do
[04:41] <CBG> Huzzar!
[04:41] <iratik> I need to reset the system time/date to be reset to UTC
[04:42] <iratik> This can't be that default- there must be something like /etc/init.d/clock resync
[04:43] <iratik> default=difficult
[04:43] <wols_> iratik: you can't simply negate a very easy howto?
[04:43] <txoof_> wols_: thanks.  that's what I was looking for.
[04:44] <iratik> the howto says 3 things 1. backup rcS, 2. set UTC=yes, 3. /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh restart
[04:44] <wols_> and it clearly follows that if you set UTC=no, then your BIOS is not set to UTC, duh!
[04:44] <iratik> Umm, either way - after following all steps, time is still the saem
[04:44] <wols_> to what is your BIOS set?
[04:44] <iratik> date returns
[04:44] <iratik> Tue Sep 26 09:26:23 CDT 2006
[04:45] <iratik> how do I find out?
[04:45] <wols_> also BIOS clock != system clock
[04:45] <wols_> you find out by looking in your BIOS for example. usually people know
[04:45] <wols_> hwlock however does in a pinch
[04:45] <iratik> I realize that - but unless I shut down the server - (websites go down), i won't be able to get to the bios
[04:45] <plusminus> can someone tell me how to remove/reinstall broken packages? tried to upgrade to efty and now gsfonts-x11 prevents from installing anything
[04:46] <lupine_85> dpkg -r gsfonts-x11 ?
[04:46] <lupine_85> you can then install it again if needed
[04:46] <wols_> plusminus: try apt-get -f install first
[04:46] <plusminus> dpkg -P gsfonts-x1
[04:46] <plusminus> tried all that
[04:46] <wols_> plusminus: paste the error
[04:46] <plusminus> theres a problem in the post--removal
[04:46] <lupine_85> then edit the postrm script?
[04:46] <lupine_85> or --force-something
[04:47] <wols_> iratik: have you found it?
[04:47] <iratik> found what?
[04:47] <wols_> what your BIOS is set to
[04:47] <iratik> I can't see my bios time - or our servers will go down
[04:47] <wols_> and yes, I told you how to look
[04:47] <wols_> even when not inside bios
[04:47] <iratik> hwclock is a command?
[04:47] <davidwinter> hi all
[04:47] <{Phoinix}> yo
[04:47] <davidwinter> is there anywhere I can find out a schedule for when apache 2.2 will be available via apt?
[04:47] <wols_> iratik: no it's apple pie
[04:48] <wols_> davidwinter: WIR I guess
[04:48] <davidwinter> WIR?
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> man hwclock is also a command
[04:48] <wols_> when it's ready
[04:48] <wols_> Jack_Sparrow: that would be too advanced for a server admin
[04:48] <davidwinter> ah
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[04:48] <lupine_85> ;)
[04:49] <wols_> iratik: sudo hwclock --show
[04:49] <plusminus> oops srry wols_  for spamming
[04:49] <plusminus> i use pastebin
[04:49] <diswill> would someone be willing to advise me on hardware upgrade? (video)
[04:49] <plusminus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24884
[04:49] <wols_> diswill: never ask to ask
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> diswill: the best nvidia card your wllat will allow
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> wallet
[04:50] <FirstStrike> diswill: Nvidia is the best bet for linux due to the better drivers over ATI.
[04:50] <{Phoinix}> nvidia rulez
[04:50] <wols_> nvidia totally and utterly sucks
[04:50] <unfknblvbl> whats a good gnome web browser to use that doesn't involve firefox ?
[04:50] <diswill> thanks I have a 3dfx voodo 3 3000 should I do anything to x before I replace the hardward I am using Kubuntu
[04:50] <lupine_85> not as much as ati ;)
[04:50] <ITS_FOR_REAL> wols_,  not in linux.
[04:50] <Jack_Sparrow> wols_: Says the guy that just spent way too much for his ATI
[04:51] <FirstStrike> Um..first, make sure your motherboard will support it diswill.
[04:51] <wols_> ITS_FOR_REAL: it does. cause there is NO way to use open drivers with 3D. none
[04:51] <unfknblvbl> !browser
[04:51] <ubotu> Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK), Opera (Qt), Konqueror (KDE/Qt), Links (terminal-based). HTTP servers: apache2
[04:51] <lupine_85> diswill: modify your xorg.conf to use the nv or vesa driver
[04:51] <CBG> Ok, can Kubuntu or Ubuntu be run in vmware?
[04:51] <wols_> Jack_Sparrow: I never ever bought an ati card. my last 3 were all nvidia
[04:51] <unfknblvbl> >.<
[04:51] <lupine_85> yep
[04:51] <wols_> CBG: yes
[04:51] <FirstStrike> diswill: If it's an old PC you might not have a PCI or PCI-E slot.
[04:51] <lupine_85> AGP++
[04:51] <plusminus> wols_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24884 after having tried dpkg -P --force-all gsfonts-x11 etc.etc.
[04:51] <diswill> I do have a pci
[04:51] <diswill> and agp
[04:51] <FirstStrike> No PCI-E?
[04:52] <ITS_FOR_REAL> prob not on a agp board.
[04:52] <FirstStrike> If you only have PCI and AGP then go for an AGP card.
[04:52] <Jack_Sparrow> diswill:  go with the Nvidia AGP card
[04:52] <lupine_85> nah, go for a PCI-E card and a new mobo ;)
[04:52] <wols_> plusminus: as someone already said: your post removal script is fubar. you need to edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/gsfonts-x11.postrm
[04:52] <FirstStrike> You should be able to find a pretty decent price on a 7800 or 7900.
[04:53] <wols_> diswill: how much money do you want to spend?
[04:53] <diswill> ok should I just drop the card in? will it auto configure?
[04:53] <wols_> diswill: and what cpu do you currently have?
[04:53] <Jack_Sparrow> lupine_85: We are not all trust fund babies..
[04:53] <FirstStrike> You'll need to install the newest nvidia drivers.
[04:53] <diswill> amd xp 1700+ cpu
[04:53] <plusminus> wols_, good news i dont need to build the package myself
[04:53] <FirstStrike> !nvidia
[04:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:53] <wols_> diswill: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and change to vesa. then drop it in and reconfigure your X again to the new card
[04:54] <wols_> diswill: and what budget do you want to allocate for the card?
[04:54] <diswill> the sudo reconfigure is what I was looking for thanks
[04:54] <Jack_Sparrow> lupine_85: You know I was kidding... I hope
[04:54] <lupine_85> yep :)
[04:54] <diswill> 500 to 900 dollars
[04:54] <lupine_85> phwoar
[04:54] <Jack_Sparrow> pci-e
[04:54] <lupine_85> *someone* is a trust fund baby ;)
[04:55] <diswill> no just a old fart
[04:55] <lupine_85> mind you, I could blow that on just the graphics card
[04:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Update the MB
[04:55] <wols_> diswill: that's about 400-800 dollars too much for your CPU. if you want to really spend that amount of money, get a new mobo and CPU as Jack_Sparrow said
[04:55] <lupine_85> get quad opterons ;)
[04:55] <Jack_Sparrow> OLd fart here as well
[04:55] <lupine_85> (ok, maybe not)
[04:55] <wols_> diswill: if you buy a very expensive videocard now, your CPU will be to slow to actually fully use it
[04:55] <diswill> mb and processor is later
[04:55] <stofferdk> Hi there. I recently installed ubuntu on my second computer. Now, I connceted my miniHDD via USB to it, and ubuntu says I dont have write rights to it - why? (windows works)
[04:55] <FirstStrike> diswill: Get a Geforce 7950 dual GPU 1 gb card >:P
[04:55] <Jack_Sparrow> stofferdk: What format is the drive?
[04:56] <gilesw> hey gang
[04:56] <Jack_Sparrow> stofferdk: My guess.. ntfs
[04:56] <plusminus> wols_, thx -  postinstall was broken as well btw
[04:56] <jhasse> Why hotkeys don't work while playing bzflag?
[04:56] <wols_> diswill: then save up and buy all at once. if you buy a new CPU and mobo you WILL want a PCI-E one, trust me there. also if you upgrade cpu+mobo you must also upgrade your RAM to DDR2
[04:56] <stofferdk> The mini HDD is not mine, so I dont know - and I think my comp is NTFS
[04:56] <ITS_FOR_REAL> diswill, to invest that kind of money into a agp card is waste of money. buy a cheaper card or its time for new mobo really with pci-e
[04:56] <wols_> stofferdk: if it's ntfs, ubuntu cannot write to it, period
[04:56] <SportChick> Hi everyone. I am running xubuntu on vmware.  Really am a total n00b.  It has been recommended that I install kde.  Can that be installed with xubuntu?
[04:56] <stofferdk> So, I am just stuck?
[04:57] <lupine_85> !ntfs3g
[04:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:57] <lupine_85> bah
[04:57] <wols_> SportChick: install kubuntu-desktop. however kde needs more ram than your xubuntu
[04:57] <lupine_85> there is a way to write to it, but there's a fair chance of killing your fs
[04:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs-3g
[04:57] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[04:57] <lupine_85> smarter would be VMWare+XP
[04:57] <shadukan> hello guys...tried the howto install ATI drivers but didn't had any succes
[04:57] <SportChick> wols_: I have a total of 2gb ram on my laptop. Do you think that's enough?
[04:57] <Jack_Sparrow> lupine_85: I am starting to change my mind on 3g...
[04:57] <plusminus> !ntfs
[04:57] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:57] <diswill> yes it is time to change the mb I agree I just am afraid to trash system.
[04:57] <wols_> SportChick: 512MB for the vmware session is fine
[04:58] <gilesw> oh lupine_85 are you the guy that created the beryl repo?
[04:58] <shadukan> to mount automatically partitions simply edit /etc/fstab
[04:58] <lupine_85> gilesw: no :)
[04:58] <gilesw> oh
[04:58] <wols_> diswill: no worries. Windows needs a reinstall, Ubuntu is far more forgiving with such things. so no problem there
[04:58] <gilesw> heh
[04:58] <lupine_85> I mirror the i386 one and upload the amd64 one
[04:58] <lupine_85> amaranth does the creative stuff
[04:58] <SportChick> wols_: ty. Is there anything I should know about installing kubuntu to use with vmware?
[04:58] <`Evil> can someone help me please with x11-common ? i cannot upgrade it and it brokes all updates
[04:58] <wols_> diswill: can you wait til around january? if so, get a cheaper conroe cpu, a mobo and a DX10 videocard
[04:58] <gilesw> i'm using the amd64 one
[04:58] <Jack_Sparrow> diswill: In that case go with a cost effective nvidia card and hold back the big bucks for later
[04:58] <gilesw> it's great
[04:58] <SportChick> and do I need to uninstall xubuntu after?
[04:58] <lupine_85> ah, that's me then :)
[04:58] <wols_> SportChick: not different than xubuntu
[04:58] <gilesw> really impressed with it
[04:59] <lupine_85> cool :)
[04:59] <wols_> SportChick: no you don't. you can have both installed
[04:59] <lupine_85> teh honour!!!!
[04:59] <SportChick> wols_: hehe, someone held my hand while I installed a "ready-to-run" xubuntu version
[04:59] <wols_> gilesw: wait til you want to display flash :)
[04:59] <gilesw> first time xcellerated has just worked
[04:59] <lupine_85> ...on amd64...?
[04:59] <gilesw> ya
[04:59] <Jack_Sparrow> `Evil: I must ask... Have you run scripts like Automatix, (NOT recommending that you do.) to install anything?
[04:59] <lupine_85> (@wols_)
[04:59] <gilesw> for me at least
[05:00] <lupine_85> glad it worked for you, anyway
[05:00] <`Evil> no Jack_Sparrow
[05:00] <diswill> thanks for the hints I will be doing a full upgrade of hardward somewhere around feb or so untill then I just wanted to play with the video.
[05:00] <gilesw> i was reading that there's a good open source flash player now
[05:00] <gilesw> for 64bit
[05:00] <wols_> lupine_85: well then he won't praise amd64 linux anymore... amd64 is nOT worth it currently unless you have >4GB RAM
[05:00] <gilesw> i don't agree
[05:00] <egon_spengler> gilesw: You mean GNASH?
[05:00] <lupine_85> in your opinion, maybe
[05:00] <gilesw> ya
[05:01] <gilesw> is it any good egon_spengler ?
[05:01] <wols_> diswill: then buy a cheap videocard if you really must. what do you need the new card for?
[05:01] <wols_> lupine_85: so how is amd64 better?
[05:01] <egon_spengler> gilesw: Well, suffice it to say I have many gnash-error.log in my home directory
[05:01] <gilesw> heh
[05:01] <lupine_85> it has 32 bits more ;)
[05:01] <lupine_85> I'm not getting into an argument about it. personal preference
[05:01] <wols_> lupine_85: that's not an argument that's just blabberling
[05:01] <gilesw> i will be using some 64bit optimized apps
[05:01] <wols_> lupine_85: why is it better?
[05:01] <lupine_85> *sigh*
[05:02] <gilesw> for video and audio
[05:02] <lupine_85> plonk
[05:02] <diswill> video is very jerky with tux cart and I can't use flight sim. thought I would try video first since it was the oldest part in the system.
[05:02] <wols_> lupine_85: please give me an argument, nothing with ";)" at the end
[05:02] <Blissex> diswill: unless you have a card whose driver support accelerated 3D, bad news.
[05:02] <wols_> gilesw at least did
[05:02] <SportChick> wols_: are you aware of any "ready to run" versions of kubuntu for vmware?
[05:02] <gilesw> actually lupe my only annoyance with my system running beryl is a bit of banding when i run fullscreen xvid
[05:02] <wols_> SportChick: no
[05:03] <SportChick> oi
[05:03] <gilesw> it doesn't happen when i run the normal window manager
[05:03] <gilesw> it's strange really because i have a monster 7800 card and a x2 with 1gig ram
[05:03] <diswill> I thought the 3dfx card was just old (guess I was wrong)
[05:03] <wols_> diswill: what's the res you want to run it at?
[05:03] <wols_> SportChick: just install kubuntu in your current vmware session
[05:04] <diswill> 1600x1200 75 hz
[05:04] <SportChick> wols_: yes, that's what I don't know how to do :p
[05:04] <wols_> diswill: your cpu will never be able to do that
[05:04] <wols_> SportChick: run synaptic
[05:04] <gilesw> i've been trying to get the hacked madwifi driver to compile for airsnort-ng
[05:04] <wols_> diswill: why that high?
[05:04] <diswill> guess I will have to wait for the mb then.
[05:04] <gilesw> so i can crack my neighbours wep
[05:04] <gilesw> just for fun
[05:05] <ubunter> hi. how to transform xubuntu into kubuntu?
[05:05] <lupine_85> heh
[05:05] <lupine_85> wep--
[05:05] <rodneyk> Does anyone know if there is a postfix > 2.2.10 in dapper backports, or know the easiest way to install postfix-2.3.3 on dapper so i can implement smtp-auth with dovecot?
[05:05] <lupine_85> !info dapper edgy
[05:05] <ubotu> Package dapper does not exist in edgy
[05:05] <KenSentMe> ubunter: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:05] <lupine_85> bah
[05:05] <gilesw> i get my broadband free with the house anyways
[05:05] <lupine_85> !info postfix edgy
[05:05] <ubotu> postfix: A high-performance mail transport agent. In component main, is optional. Version 2.3.3-1 (edgy), package size 1041 kB, installed size 2436 kB
[05:05] <lupine_85> !info postfix dapper
[05:05] <ubotu> postfix: A high-performance mail transport agent. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.10-1ubuntu0.1 (dapper), package size 901 kB, installed size 2172 kB
[05:06] <rodneyk> coool, first time here
[05:06] <gilesw> i thought exim was the standard on .deb based
[05:06] <Canopus> Hi everyone
[05:06] <lupine_85> it's in edgy, if you want to risk it for a biscuit
[05:06] <lupine_85> exim++
[05:06] <rodneyk> hmm, not really, how stable is edgy right now
[05:06] <lupine_85> but I don't know how to configure it ;)
[05:06] <lupine_85> not very
[05:06] <Canopus> i want to create a desktop launcher of a shell script
[05:06] <rodneyk> right
[05:06] <lupine_85> you could build from source
[05:06] <wols_> rodneyk: do your own simple backport of it
[05:06] <rodneyk> yeah i figured i would have to
[05:06] <elddik> ulfar: sorry was away. the connection to my box loses network once in a while. however ,others can access webservices on that machine, when i can't
[05:07] <Canopus> i have created one but it does not execute ... only way is to run it in a terminal
[05:07] <gilesw> hey lupe is there much point in compiling your own kernel on ubuntu ?
[05:07] <ubunter> KenSentMe - thanks. over 200 mega to download :/
[05:07] <lupine_85> erm, depends
[05:07] <Canopus> any advice on how to create a working launcher/shortcut?
[05:07] <wols_> Canopus: what is the first line of the script?
[05:07] <lupine_85> if "just for fun", then probably not - although startup time++
[05:07] <lupine_85> but then, do you need a point if it's just for fun? ;)
[05:07] <Canopus> #!/bin/sh
[05:08] <gilesw> as it is with that nvidia driver and madwifi i'm getting stuck on a kernel version anyways
[05:08] <lupine_85> Canopus: use the .desktop format
[05:08] <stofferdk> I looked up the NTFS write driver you linked to - but I recently installed linux, I have no idea whatsoever how to install it.
[05:08] <wols_> Canopus: should be ok. then. try to start it with "/bin/sh script" in the shortcut then
[05:08] <ITS_FOR_REAL> so again... wanna make rar with split size files. rar doesnt work. ark just stands workning on something in a 100 year no error mess or logfaults.  file roller cant split. gzip cant make split rar files... GRRR :(
[05:08] <Jay_Levitt> Anyone here used fcgid with apache?
[05:08] <Juhaz> Canopus, if it's +x and has the correct #! line, it should just work like any other app
[05:08] <gilesw> i'm pretty novice on a .deb based distro
[05:08] <Canopus> it doesn't ... that's the problem
[05:09] <wols_> gilesw: you need to install kernel headers for your kernel then
[05:09] <gilesw> keep wanting to do a rpm -q or a yum search
[05:09] <Canopus> lupine_85: .desktop format ... that i am not familiar with
[05:09] <lupine_85> google for it
[05:09] <gilesw> can't i just go for vanilla off kernel.org?
[05:09] <lupine_85> or just look at an existing .desktop file to get the details
[05:09] <gilesw> or will that break ubuntu?
[05:09] <lupine_85> gilesw: you can
[05:09] <lupine_85> I did :)
[05:09] <krazykit> gilesw: you can, but i recommend using ck patches
[05:09] <lupine_85> not "the ubuntu way" though
[05:09] <gilesw> lols
[05:09] <lupine_85> lulz0rz
[05:10] <wols_> gilesw: if you know what you're doing it's possible
[05:10] <krazykit> gilesw, lupine_85: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ckolivas/kernel/
[05:10] <gilesw> i've done it many time  on other distros
[05:10] <lupine_85> you could even use 2.6.18 :)
[05:10] <gilesw> k i'll have a look
[05:10] <lupine_85> cutting edge++
[05:10] <iturk> hi there i have a problem with my wireless !! i have to connect to an access point that request for password and user so it means that its closed !! Which software should i download in order to be able to give this two parameters when connection to a closed access point ??
[05:10] <ubunter> I thought that xubuntu would be like utorrent on Windows - very small but also very functional. xubuntu was albo very small :D
[05:10] <krazykit> gilesw: just make sure to have the sources for wireless ;-)
[05:10] <elddik> hi, i'm losing network connection to my ubuntu server from the machine thats my ssh client. is this a known issue?
[05:10] <wols_> gilesw: you can also apt-get the ubuntu kernel source and work with that (using kernel-package)
[05:11] <gilesw> righty
[05:11] <erUSUL> lupine_85: i use 2.6.18 ;) (all the rc's and now final)
[05:11] <erUSUL> iturk: does the ap use wpa or wep or other access method? try with network-manager
[05:11] <gilesw> the main thing i'm struggling with is sound
[05:12] <gilesw> the mixer that comes with ubuntu seems cack
[05:12] <gilesw> i've been trying to find this envycontrol24
[05:12] <lupine_85> alsamixer ?
[05:12] <gilesw> but it seems to have disappeared off the planet
[05:13] <txoof_> the default user that I used during setup is receiving status emails; where is this configured?  I searched in /etc/ but couldn't find anything.
[05:13] <gilesw> volume control for gnome it's called
[05:13] <iturk> erUSUL: wpa
[05:13] <gilesw> i've got an ice based card
[05:13] <iturk> it request for user and password
[05:13] <gilesw> has digital and analogue out
[05:13] <wols_> txoof_: waht MTA?
[05:14] <gilesw> apt-get install alsamixer
[05:14] <gilesw> no joy
[05:14] <lupine_85> it's already in
[05:14] <lupine_85> console
[05:14] <txoof_> wols_: I have no idea.
[05:14] <gilesw> says couldn't find package
[05:14] <gilesw> i've enabled all the repos
[05:15] <lupine_85> it's in alsa-utils I think
[05:15] <lupine_85> you've already got it on your PC
[05:15] <gilesw> ahh
[05:15] <gilesw> quality
[05:15] <lupine_85> :)
[05:15] <gilesw> i've got a feeling that these are the last days of windows on my desktop
[05:16] <erUSUL> iturk: as i said try with network-manager
[05:16] <erUSUL> !wpa
[05:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:16] <gilesw> i try desktop linux each year lol
[05:16] <erUSUL> !wpa > iturk
[05:16] <krazykit> gilesw: hurrah.  i've been windows free on 2 machines for a year now
[05:16] <hydro> hello all ... I just got Dapper Drake installed and its been fun so far. However, I have Googled around to try and find out what to do in order to be able to play movies on commercial DVDs with a DVD drive attached to my laptop running Dapper Drake. Anyone with suggestions?
[05:16] <gilesw> i was going to go mac
[05:17] <lupine_85> !dvd
[05:17] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:17] <gilesw> but alxgl just looks so good
[05:17] <lupine_85> hehe
[05:17] <lupine_85> beryl is pretty
[05:17] <gilesw> fact is i'd be using open source apps on mac
[05:17] <gilesw> so whats the point
[05:17] <hydro> thanks ubotu
[05:18] <gilesw> the only thing i'll miss is photoshop and cubase
[05:18] <wols_> hydro: libdvdcss
[05:18] <gilesw> i'll probably keep a windows install just for creative stuff
[05:18] <wols_> doh. too lsow :)
[05:18] <hydro> thanks wols_
[05:18] <hydro> hey wols_ is Jack gone now?
[05:19] <kuzavas> hello
[05:19] <wols_> long gone. trolls stop when they are ignored (or banned). which is why you should have ignored him
[05:19] <b^j> this morning when i booted my laptop and tried to switch to a virtual console i just get another gdm session and i can't switch back to my old gdm session.  any ideas what is up with this?
[05:20] <kuzavas> i've booted the most recent daily eft dvd
[05:20] <gilesw> is there a gui app for alsamixer?
[05:20] <kuzavas> and i've encountered a few problems already
[05:20] <lupine_85> gilesw: not really
[05:20] <lupine_85> it's just a mixer
[05:20] <b^j> i am running an up to date dapper install
[05:20] <gilesw> hrm thats a bit crap
[05:21] <dbzdeath> does anyone know how i can extract this? http://www.files.bz/files/9309/Mythtv/mplayer_coreavc.patch.20060413.bz2 i tried it with tar -xjvvf but it failed with "tar: This does not look like a tar archive"
[05:21] <lupine_85> bunzip2 <file>
[05:21] <hydro> wols_ thanks for the lesson ... next time I will be more wary of tollers. Why, though, do people troll like that?
[05:21] <kuzavas> is here someone who is responsible for developing or smth
[05:21] <b^j> the curses one is good enough for me
[05:21] <gilesw> i like to swap between analog and digital
[05:21] <lupine_85> it's not a tar file
[05:21] <wols_> gilesw: alsamixergui perhaps?
[05:21] <wols_> kuzavas: wrong channel #ubuntu+1
[05:21] <Sprafa> so
[05:21] <supermiguel> does any one know what this mean "configure FTP user to be "jailed" (chrooted) into their home directory"
[05:21] <gilesw> doesn't tab
[05:22] <b^j> dbzdeath, try just a bunzip2
[05:22] <Sprafa> i'm trying to set up ubuntu right
[05:22] <Sprafa> can anyone lend a hand on how to get internet running on it
[05:22] <Sprafa> modems*
[05:22] <wols_> supermiguel: it means the ftp user can't access files outside their home directory. which is how it should be with ftp
[05:22] <b^j> supermiguel, that tries to prevent ftp users from getting outside of their home
[05:22] <gilesw> ahh joy beans
[05:22] <dbzdeath> b^j: ahh thanks
[05:22] <Sprafa> i've ran scanModen
[05:22] <gilesw> apt-get install alsamixergui :)
[05:22] <lupine_85> !alsamixergui
[05:22] <ubotu> alsamixergui: graphical soundcard mixer for ALSA soundcard driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.0rc2-1-9 (dapper), package size 29 kB, installed size 148 kB
[05:23] <lupine_85> cool
[05:23] <b^j> so did anyone else lose their virtual consoles lately? i had them the other day, now they are gone
[05:23] <carlp> hello... "the entered block size......do you want to correct?" comes up as an error in Nero when I try to burn ubuntu.   should I choose ignore or correct? what should the block size be?
[05:23] <wols_> Sprafa: what modem is it? a winmodem?
[05:23] <b^j> and gdm is in its place
[05:23] <Sprafa> yes, winmodem
[05:23] <strav> I know this is not quite the right chan, vmware people are actually sleeping. But could anyone provide help setting the sound device as sound blaster live in vmplayer, I'm currently running xp as a guest os and... would like to enable sound. Actually my sound dev in my .vmx file is: sound.virtualdev = "sb16", I don't either know if that should be sufficient or...
[05:23] <Sprafa> i'm reaing a lot on it, but godamn it's quite hard
[05:23] <Faithen> Hullo again!
[05:23] <wols_> Sprafa: unlikely it will work under linux. get a real modem
[05:23] <gilesw> i still have a lot to learn about integrating my preferred apps into the desktop..
[05:23] <Sprafa> D:
[05:24] <Sprafa> what happened to linux for human beings D:
[05:24] <gilesw> lols
[05:24] <Faithen> I have one quick question, how do i run with x server disabled?
[05:24] <supermiguel> there is any way to get the original proftpd.conf?
[05:24] <Sprafa> so i should get a full hardware modem ?
[05:24] <Faithen> I need to install some drivers
[05:24] <Sprafa> aren't they rare as shit D:
[05:24] <wols_> Sprafa: yes. ideally a serially attached external modem
[05:24] <wols_> Sprafa: no they aren't
[05:24] <b^j> Sprafa, there is some support for winmodems, but a hardware one will be your best bet
[05:24] <carlp> hello... "the entered block size......do you want to correct?" comes up as an error in Nero when I try to burn ubuntu.   should I choose ignore or correct? what should the block size be?  any ideas?
[05:25] <LjL> Sprafa: which winmodem?
[05:25] <wols_> Faithen: /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[05:25] <wols_> carlp: is there a cue file?
[05:25] <Faithen> Thank you, do I need to sudo that command?
[05:25] <Sprafa> Alcatel Speedtouch USB ASDL
[05:25] <Arrick> Hi guys and gals, how do I turn of the blasted screen saver in ubuntu breezy?
[05:25] <carlp> wols_: no
[05:25] <wols_> carlp: on data CDs usually it'S 2048
[05:25] <wols_> carlp: what is the extension fo the file you want to burn? and how do you burn it?
[05:25] <LjL> wols_: hey, someone who's actually telling people to use the "?dm start/stop" thing... i thought i'd never caught up =)
[05:26] <carlp> wols_:   .iso
[05:26] <gilesw> system prefs screen
[05:26] <Faithen> I suppose i will be back
[05:26] <carlp> i burn it with nero.. "burn image to disk"
[05:26] <Faithen> either with praise in precise directions, or pleas of further advice apon failure
[05:26] <supermiguel> there is any way to get the original proftd.conf
[05:27] <Sprafa> so... best bet is get a bloody router or something like that
[05:27] <Sprafa> meh
[05:27] <carlp> can somebody send me the .cue ?
[05:27] <LjL> Sprafa: http://www.linux.com/howtos/DSL-HOWTO/speedtouchusb.shtml
[05:27] <Sprafa> oh snap!
[05:27] <Arrick> thank you gilesw
[05:27] <Sprafa> OMG
[05:27] <Sprafa> linux drivers!!
[05:27] <wols_> carlp: iso files usually don't have them. and they use 2048bytes/persoct which nero should be fine with
[05:27] <gilesw> yay i helped someone and it's only my second day of bunty
[05:27] <Sprafa> wow LjL !
[05:27] <Sprafa> you rock!
[05:27] <Sprafa> :D
[05:27] <wols_> carlp: mount it in daemon-tools and do a disck copy
[05:27] <carlp> ok
[05:28] <wols_> Sprafa: that's no winmodem you have
[05:28] <Sprafa> that's not a winmodem ?
[05:28] <Sprafa> D: ?
[05:28] <Sprafa> the ubuntu wiki lists anything over USB as winmodems
[05:28] <wols_> Sprafa: dialup modems are winmodems sometimes
[05:29] <wols_> well, usb dsl modems are shitty, yes, but not really winmodems
[05:29] <LjL> Sprafa: however, i can see the Speedtouch driver packaged in the repositories for Warty, Hoary and Breezy, but not Dapper
[05:29] <carlp> also, when i put in the cd/mount it in daemon...   the splash screen comes up and then goes away, nothing happens, is that supposed to happen?
[05:29] <Sprafa> as i said, i'm a noob setting up linux in preparation for possibly a new PC running full ubuntu
[05:29] <wols_> LjL: could be in the kernel by now
[05:29] <Sprafa> hmhm
[05:29] <Faithen> wols_: Sorry, forgot to copy and paste the command line, quick repeat?
[05:29] <Sprafa> Dapper noes :(
[05:29] <wols_> Faithen: /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[05:29] <wols_> ? depends on what kind of displaymanager you run
[05:30] <wols_> and you need to log out of X of course
[05:30] <ubunter> how to install foobar2000 using wine?
[05:30] <krazykit> wols_: actually, stopping gdm/kdm will log you out of x
[05:30] <LjL> Sprafa: here's some Ubuntu tutorial as well http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html
[05:30] <Sprafa> yay!
[05:30] <Faithen> it didn't log me out of x server
[05:30] <Sprafa> you sexy men
[05:30] <Faithen> evidently
[05:30] <Faithen> well lets log out
[05:30] <krazykit> ubunter: wine foobarsetup.exe or whatever it's called.  though you should use a native player, like amarok
[05:30] <gilesw> ubuntustudio.com - rocking!
[05:31] <Sprafa> i was just looking for <modem> in the ubuntu support
[05:31] <Sprafa> i didn't expect there to be drivers
[05:31] <LjL> Sprafa: and here's the dapper tutorial from the ubuntu help site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/SpeedTouch
[05:32] <Sprafa> i love you guys D:
[05:32] <Arcad3> hi all
[05:32] <ubunter> how to install foobar under wine: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=24&t=6349&hl=wine
[05:32] <Faithen> weeeelllll that did jack and shit, and jack left town apparantly.. lousy jack, always not around when hes needed
[05:32] <Sprafa> foobar is almost why i wasn't going to switch to linux
[05:32] <elTigre> I get "bash: /usr/bin/tail: cannot execute binary file" a lot
[05:32] <LjL> wols_: looking from that tutorial, it seems almost like it's actually not included anymore... seeing the zip file, the convoluted instructions and all... though that's mostly for getting the firmware into the thing
[05:32] <Sprafa> D:
[05:32] <elTigre> what can I do about that?
[05:33] <wols_> LjL: ok if it needs that firmware it's not in the kernel :(
[05:33] <ITS_FOR_REAL> got rar to work. tried pointing @ dir first then file name. tried it reverse and voila... zz to tired. need t use -m0 also cuz its going so f** slow
[05:33] <Faithen> O.o
[05:33] <Sprafa> you know, command lines used to scare me
[05:34] <wols_> Faithen: what type of ubuntu are you running?
[05:34] <Faithen> most recent version
[05:34] <Sprafa> now i know they just suck :(
[05:34] <krazykit> Sprafa: then you're not doing it right :-P
[05:34] <Faithen> 6.06l i do believe
[05:34] <lupine_85> console++ :)
[05:34] <Sprafa> meh
[05:34] <ITS_FOR_REAL> cya guys! have fun
[05:34] <Sprafa> command lines are prosumer stuff
[05:34] <wols_> Faithen: not version. type. as "kubuntu"
[05:35] <krazykit> Sprafa: if you've broken your system as much as i have, you learn to love the command line ;-)
[05:35] <lupine_85> Real (Wo)Men Use CLI
[05:35] <Faithen> I don't know, How would i find out? I just recently picked linux and ubuntu up
[05:35] <Sprafa> i do fine with my beautiful GUIs, thank you very much D:
[05:35] <Faithen> so i'm fairly new, just starting to get a hang of synaptic and terminal
[05:35] <b^j> anyone know why my virtual consoles are gone?  gdm is all i see when i press ctrl-alt-[1-7] 
[05:36] <wols_> Faithen: do you have a foot icon in X?
[05:36] <wols_> b^j: F1-F6
[05:36] <Faithen> My main Icon is this little three person circle
[05:36] <b^j> wols_, err yeah, f1-f8 that is
[05:36] <Skrot> Hi. Is there some clever way to unload all snd_ modules in ubuntu?
[05:36] <Saftool> hello all
[05:37] <Skrot> Or unload all modules used for sound/alsa
[05:37] <krazykit> Skrot: rmmod snd_* doesn't work?
[05:37] <lupine_85> the * would be expanded by bash?
[05:37] <krazykit> oh, bash
[05:37] <krazykit> maybe not then
[05:38] <lupine_85> rmmod snd_\* "might" work, but I wouldn't bet on it
[05:38] <Skrot> krazykit: no. I seem to remember debian having /etc/init.d/alsa. If I stop'ed it it removed all snd_modules as well. Does ubuntu have anything like that? /etc/init.d/alsa-utils does not do it
[05:38] <lupine_85> most of them will be in use anyway
[05:38] <krazykit> lupine_85: it would in zsh ;-).
[05:38] <LjL> Skrot, lupine_85, krazykit lsmod | grep "snd_" | awk ' { print "rmmod " $1 } ' | sh
[05:38] <lupine_85> hehe
[05:38] <Faithen> I love having such baffling problems
[05:38] <lupine_85> showoff ;)
[05:38] <LjL> i know :)
[05:38] <Saftool> when trying to install unbuntu server my system hangs after initial reboot.  only error i see while booting si "Can't read ctr While initializing i8042"   any ideas? i ahve reinstalled 3 times
[05:39] <krazykit> Skrot: and if that doesn't work, make it "rmmod -f"
[05:39] <Skrot> LjL: Get a lot of dependencies about it beeing in use.
[05:39] <LjL> Skrot: well, i didn't actually try it as root ;)
[05:39] <Juhaz> make that: lsmod|awk '/snd_/ {print $1}'|xargs rmmod
[05:39] <LjL> Skrot: just run it more than once untill all the deps are gone -- assuming they're only dependencies internal to the snd_* modules
[05:40] <LjL> otherwise i guess you'd have to remove the offending modules manually first
[05:40] <krazykit> Skrot: and lsof anything that's using the /dev nodes for the devices, too
[05:40] <LjL> Juhaz: now who's the showoff :P
[05:40] <Faithen> Noriega, why do i recognize that name.
[05:40] <Skrot> ERROR: Removing 'snd_hda_intel': Operation not permitted -- as sudo
[05:40] <Faithen> would you happen to have scripted a B.net bot?
[05:41] <Juhaz> hehe
[05:41] <Jay_Levitt> Is there a way to see which apt-get package supplies a file named xyz.c?
[05:41] <wols_> Jay_Levitt: dpkg can tell
[05:41] <LjL> Skrot: for the whole command to work you'd probably want to *be* root (i.e. "sudo -i") rather than prefix sudo
[05:41] <wols_> Jay_Levitt: dpkg -S
[05:41] <erUSUL> Jay_Levitt: dpkg -S /path/to/file
[05:41] <Faithen> ljl, I think i broke Wols
[05:41] <Jay_Levitt> Thanks all
[05:41] <LjL> Jay_Levitt: yeah, install the "apt-file" package
[05:42] <LjL> Jay_Levitt: that will work even if you don't have the concerned package installed
[05:42] <erUSUL> LjL: maybe the ubuntu kernel does not permit mod removal. it is compile option
[05:42] <ephemeros> yo \m/
[05:42] <wols_> Faithen: ?
[05:42] <ubunter> question: i installed foobar under wine. how to make that linux will open mp3s in foobar?
[05:42] <Jay_Levitt> LjL:L Thanks, that's even better
[05:42] <LjL> erUSUL: well, that might be, but i'm not too eager to crash my system right now, so i'll leave it for someone else to try :)
[05:43] <Faithen> I just never got a responce to you when i Denied that i have a foot with an x for it as an icon
[05:43] <LjL> Jay_Levitt: run "apt-file update" first, so that it downloads the needed information, then you can do "apt-file search filename"
[05:43] <Faithen> and that i had a little circle with three breaks and three bumps on it
[05:43] <xoxi> ola
[05:43] <Faithen> so, I think i broke you
[05:43] <elTigre> I get "bash: /usr/bin/tail: cannot execute binary file" a lot
[05:43] <elTigre> what can I do about that?
[05:43] <wols_> Faithen: I don't run the gui so I dunno. but you should know yourself what you installed. until you know, I can't tell you waht to do. the "?" is one of x,g or k
[05:43] <Jay_Levitt> LjL: Which answers what would have been my next question!
[05:44] <wols_> elTigre: a lot or always when you run tail?
[05:44] <xoxi> ola
[05:44] <elTigre> I normally don't run tail
[05:44] <Faithen> It's prolly X
[05:44] <Faithen> I'll try it again
[05:44] <Faithen> thank you.
[05:44] <elTigre> but I guess it's used a lot in startup script
[05:44] <elTigre> s
[05:44] <krazykit> Faithen: if there's an "applications" menu up top, it's gnome or xfce.  if it's on the bottom, it's kde
[05:44] <silent_scream> I installed lirc with succes! now hoaw can i control aplications with my remote? i use gnome...
[05:44] <LjL> elTigre: try running "tail" from the shell then
[05:44] <elTigre> when I run tail, it's the same, too
[05:44] <wols_> elTigre: is it possible to run it. yes or no?
[05:44] <elTigre> no
[05:44] <LjL> elTigre: ok, "ls -l /usr/bin/tail"
[05:44] <Faithen> It's Gnome then
[05:44] <bieb_work> Has anyone here looked at the NetCell Revo, storage Processing Unit?
[05:44] <xoxi> perdona pero no te entiendo
[05:44] <LjL> !es
[05:44] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:44] <left> hi
[05:44] <wols_> elTigre: ldd /usr/bin/tail
[05:45] <Faithen> and it said it killed GDM
[05:45] <elTigre> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 37092 2006-04-04 19:43 /usr/bin/tail
[05:45] <Faithen> and nothing happened
[05:45] <Faithen> let me try and repeat
[05:45] <elTigre> not a dynamic executable
[05:45] <wols_> Faithen: you closed x by logging out?
[05:45] <b^j> grr, tired to ctrl-alt-f1 and it brough me to a new gdm, i couldn't get back to my old one on ctrl-alt-f7.  anyone have any idea what is up?
[05:45] <LjL> elTigre: try "file /usr/bin/tail" too
[05:45] <elTigre> file /usr/bin/tail : Data
[05:45] <wols_> elTigre: ls -al /usr/bin/tail
[05:45] <LjL> data?
[05:45] <wols_> elTigre: and "file /usr/bin/tail" too
[05:45] <LjL> is it just me, or that doesn't sound good?
[05:45] <elTigre> yep
[05:45] <Faithen> YEah i logged out
[05:46] <xoxi> bye
[05:46] <elTigre> file says it's data
[05:46] <wols_> elTigre: someone or something overwrote at least your /usr/bin/tail file
[05:46] <Faithen> unless you wanted me to restart, or i wanted me to.
[05:46] <Saftool> after installing unbuntu server (latest relerase) my system hangs up at the login screen.  only error message is the "Can't read ctr While initializing i8042".  I was never abel to get past that.  any suggestions or ideas?
[05:46] <LjL> elTigre: yeah, which makes me say it doesn't sound good
[05:46] <elTigre> mhh what can I do about that?
[05:46] <xoxi> no te busco
[05:46] <LjL> elTigre: perhaps install "chkrootkit" and/or "rkhunter", and run them
[05:46] <wols_> elTigre: and since normal programs cannot do that /unless you run sudo), something very fishy is going on
[05:46] <mhb> Anyone has experience with the Bon Echo https:// bug? Do you have a workaround? (to access launchpad, for instance)
[05:46] <Arrick> hey, how do I sent one of those messages like *| Arrick Slaps blah blah?
[05:46] <xoxi> bye
[05:46] <b^j> elTigre, not good at all, is this a home or work computer?
[05:46] <LjL> elTigre: and disconnect from the network as soon as possible after you install them
[05:47] <elTigre> ljl: is that installable through synaptic?
[05:47] <elTigre> home computer
[05:47] <left> anyone knows what is the app that modifies /etc/resolv.conf when I change network?
[05:47] <krazykit> Arrick: /me does something
[05:47] <LjL> elTigre: yes, both are
[05:47] <b^j> elTigre, if its a home one i would just run a rootkit checker from trusted media
[05:47] <wols_> Faithen: are you in a console whne you type /etc/init.d/gdm stop?  if not: go there with ctrl+alt+f1
[05:47] <Arrick> thanks
[05:47] <Faithen> trying to get cedega to work is becoming a pain o.o
[05:47] <LjL> elTigre: just type "sudo apt-get install rkhunter chkrootkit" and they'll be installed. then run them
[05:47] <wols_> left: depends how you change it
[05:47] <b^j> elTigre, change all the passwords on any system you might have typed in on that system
[05:47] <krazykit> Faithen: cedega is junk.
[05:47] <b^j> elTigre, not good enough
[05:47] <Faithen> is there a difference between console and terminal?
[05:47] <bieb_work> Flannel.. you hanging around today?
[05:47] <b^j> elTigre, you need to run the rootkit checker from trusted media
[05:48] <LjL> Faithen: not for practical purposes
[05:48] <silent_scream> I installed lirc with success! now how can i control aplications with my remote? i use gnome...
[05:48] <Faithen> yes i am starting to realise, have a better way to get games running on my computer? ^.^
[05:48] <b^j> elTigre, you can't trust anything on that install from now on
[05:48] <b^j> elTigre, boot from a readonly media like a live cd
[05:48] <wols_> Faithen: press ctrl+alt+f1. you must be in text mode, not in X while stopping gdm
[05:48] <left> wols_, at home I have my ethernet cable and my provider's dns, then at school in the Wless network something changes resolv.conf
[05:48] <LjL> elTigre, b^j is probably right. get an Ubuntu Live CD, boot from it, install rkhunter and chkrootkit from there, and run them on your HD
[05:48] <wols_> left: dhcp most probably
[05:49] <wols_> left: you need to edit your /etc/network/interfaces
[05:49] <elTigre> uhm, I'd rather assume first, that a rootkit would not be as dump to overwrite tail ....
[05:49] <b^j> LjL, not probably, if they have root, they could have installed kernel modules to hide anything they did
[05:49] <left> to avoid that wols_?
[05:49] <vect0r``> wols_, deja vu
[05:49] <vect0r``> ou need to edit your /etc/network/interfaces
[05:49] <vect0r``> hehe
[05:49] <wols_> vect0r``: it's normal with network problems
[05:49] <Saftool> anyone know if "Can't read ctr While initializing i8042" would cause system crash?
[05:50] <wols_> Saftool: do you have a usb keyboard or ps2?
[05:50] <Saftool> wols_: ps2
[05:50] <Saftool> USB mouse
[05:50] <Saftool> which should i change? :)
[05:51] <LjL> elTigre, b^j: a rootkit might not be (or it might), but the guy that installed it might. anyway, let's just boot from a live cd if you have one, and be back on irc. the sooner you disconnect, the better
[05:51] <wols_> Saftool: could be. try booting with acpi=off and noapic for boot parameters
[05:51] <elTigre> I have that problem for a few weeks now
[05:51] <elTigre> didn't suspect anything
[05:51] <wols_> elTigre: you could also check your disk for defects (smartmontools. long test)
[05:51] <Saftool> wols_:Is that something I can add in GRUB? sorry am completly new
[05:51] <wols_> Saftool: yes
[05:51] <Canopus> lupine_85: Thanks for the advice ... did some work around and its working now
[05:51] <elTigre> I am running chkrootkit in my normal installation anyway first
[05:52] <Saftool> wols_:Cool let me boot with that brb :)
[05:52] <Onbir> Hey. I have two questions :). One: How to reset the panel layout (i changed the panels and stuff.) and two: Is there a way to place a desktop shortcut to connect to this chat?
[05:53] <Canopus> Onbir: right click on the irc client and select Add to panel
[05:53] <lupine_85> Canopus: np :)
[05:53] <Canopus> ok guyz ... see ya later ... thanks a million :)
[05:53] <alexyeah> how to set the gdm display on 1024*768 and 4 all users as default
[05:54] <LjL> elTigre: well, it's quite possible that you *don't* have a rootkit, but the "tail" executable being messed up does ring a warning bell or three to me, so myself i'd double check...
[05:54] <b^j> so does anyone know what became of my virtual terminals, i had them yesterday.  since yesterday i reconfigured x to use xinerama and fglrx
[05:55] <mike-digiport-> .
[05:55] <Onbir> alright.. and now my first question please? ^_^
[05:55] <Onbir> Which was: How to reset the panel layout (i changed the panels and stuff.)
[05:55] <LjL> Onbir: move them back ;)
[05:55] <LjL> Onbir: or create a new user
[05:55] <Juhaz> gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[05:55] <Onbir> LjL: Well.. i deleted some panels
[05:56] <LjL> Onbir: add them back... right click on the panel, and "add panel" (or similar... i'm on KDE)
[05:56] <Onbir> Juhaz: Thanks! ^_^
[05:57] <elTigre> ljl chkrootkit didn't find anything suspicious
[05:57] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> people.  i need to ask a question. stupid as it mite be. do i need to worry bout viruses with linux?
[05:57] <isede> is there any way to make SATA RAID0 on FastRak card be recognized automatically, without manual qparted/dmraid runs (i read the howto)?
[05:58] <Rico-> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: not really
[05:58] <Rico-> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: there does seem to be some linux anti-virus tools though :/
[05:58] <elTigre> how can I owerwrite tail again?
[05:58] <alexyeah> how to set the gdm display on 1024*768 and 4 all users as default
[05:58] <alexyeah> please help me
[05:58] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> hmm. and - how can i configure the linux firewall?
[05:58] <LjL> elTigre: well, it's up to you. i'd still run them (chkrootkit and rkhunter) from a cd. also the suggestion to check your HD for problems is worth a shot (try a "smartctl -H /dev/hdwhatever" first, maybe it's *already* noticed a failure!)
[05:58] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> alex: what seems to be the problem?
[05:59] <elTigre>  don't have smartctl
[05:59] <frfx> i want to edit partitions with gparted.but before some of my partitions there is a lock and i can't edti them
[05:59] <LjL> elTigre: instrall smartmontools
[05:59] <alexyeah> its so little that i can see nothing
[05:59] <smax> tomcat_ hello! do you remember the problem with libstdc++
[05:59] <supermiguel> how can i add users to proftpd
[05:59] <Tomcat_> smax: Yes.
[05:59] <elTigre> how can I reinstall tail?
[05:59] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> frfx: you using Gparted as live cd? or from linux?
[05:59] <alexyeah> its a monitor 4 1024*768 and not for 1280*...
[05:59] <KenSentMe> frfx: you have to unmount them before you can edit them
[05:59] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> exactly. or run it from a live CD
[06:00] <LjL> elTigre: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install the-relevant-package", which might be "binutils" or something... i'll check right now. however, i'd wait until you find out what the root problem is
[06:00] <smax> Tomcat_ I update this package and over everething is fine. I'm so happy )))
[06:00] <frfx> i am using gparted from my ubuntu.but i cant unmount them because i am using them
[06:00] <Sonofaq> alexyeah are you running xgl
[06:00] <Saftool> wols_: when I added noacpi and acpi=off it gives me an erro when it gets to that line "unrecognized"  should i have ventered differently in the boot parameters in grub?
[06:00] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> frfx: then you need a LIVE CD
[06:00] <RedGhost> Where can I change which file types are automatically opened with what? (gnome) ??
[06:00] <alexyeah> ?
[06:00] <LjL> elTigre: the package is "coreutils"
[06:00] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> download it. its just 30 MB
[06:00] <alexyeah> id dont know
[06:01] <Sonofaq> dont worry hang oni'll just check where the file is you need to edi
[06:01] <metalhedd> how can I get gcc 4.1 on dapper? I need it torun as a distcc server.
[06:01] <frfx> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: there is nothing like partition magic on m$? it edits the partitions while rebooting
[06:01] <elTigre> I'm behind a firewall, tooo
[06:01] <LjL> metalhedd: i'm afraid you can't do that very easily
[06:01] <Sonofaq> alexyeah are you using a live cd and are you using a nvidia graphics card or radeon
[06:01] <smax>  PunjabiFLOYDIAN gparted
[06:02] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> actually Gparted can act like that. but u need to unmount. why not try the LIVE CD/
[06:02] <smax> PunjabiFLOYDIAN cfdisk
[06:02] <metalhedd> LjL: whats the hard way? i don't mind.
[06:02] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> smax: help frfx. LOL. i know it.
[06:02] <habeeb> I installed fglrx, and my resolution changed from 1680x1050 to 1024x768. How can I turn it back? I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but the resolution values keep reseting after every X restart :/
[06:02] <KenSentMe> !fixres
[06:02] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:02] <wols_> Saftool: no you did it right. it was only a guess tho
[06:02] <cleeren> hello everybody
[06:02] <smax> PunjabiFLOYDIAN ?
[06:03] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> yeah?
[06:03] <KenSentMe> cleeren: hi
[06:03] <alexyeah> i dont use a live cd & use a diamond viper 16 mb
[06:03] <LjL> metalhedd: don't really know... perhaps compile gcc by hand ("nightmare" comes to mind here), or use an Edgy package (and break everything)... but what about just installing the GCC that's on Dapper on your *other* machines you want to run distcc on?
[06:03] <zmutte> Heya, I have a problem with wlan. I am trying to confige iwconfig to be able to connect to my stationary computer through ad hoc. the stationary computer runs a dhcp server, but after configuring the iwconfig and trying to get a ip from dhclient nothing happens
[06:03] <frfx> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: thanks for your help :) but how can i setup gparted to act like that? but i cant unmount the partitions because i am using them..
[06:03] <alexyeah> v550
[06:03] <RedGhost> Where can I change which file types are automatically opened with what? (gnome) ??
[06:03] <b^j> anyone know why i can't get to my virtual consoles by typing ctrl-alt-F[1-6] 
[06:03] <fyrestrtr> frfx: boot from the livecd.
[06:03] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> frfx: get the live CD from gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[06:04] <Sonofaq> alexyeah:ok hang on here the link to all the info you need  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:04] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> and u have to unmount before chanign the partitions
[06:04] <smax> frfx what's problem with?
[06:04] <Sonofaq> just go through that and use common sense
[06:04] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> which is very obvious. and no - itcant be like partition magic
[06:04] <metalhedd> LjL: cuz that machine already has alot of stuff compiled with 4.1
[06:04] <KenSentMe> RedGhost: go to a certain file in nautilus, right click, open with... and select the program you want to open the file with
[06:04] <frfx> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: ok thanks for your help :) but i thought i can also use the ubuntu live cd no?
[06:04] <cleeren> i have added a new user, everything works fine but the sound is not recognized. in the original admin user the sound works fine? what's wrong? thanx for your help
[06:05] <wols_> cleeren: add the user to the group "audio"
[06:05] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> frfx: agreed. that also works. but maybe it will autmount every partition. adn u have to unmount.
[06:05] <b^j> cleeren, i would guess a permission issue
[06:05] <Ivanowitch> Hi. I have a somehwat annoying problem... no matter how i try to connect to a network printer, i always get the message that the "bakcend" for that particular connection type failed, I am using the html interface to configure CUPS
[06:05] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> download the Gparted live CD. its very very handy. better than Pqmagic
[06:05] <smax> PunjabiFLOYDIAN He can used partition magic if he like it. partition magic can work whith ext3fs
[06:05] <fyrestrtr> Ivanowitch: why not use the gnome cups interface?
[06:05] <frfx> Punjabi: ok many thanks :)
[06:05] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> smax: yup. but for that he needs Windows
[06:05] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> :D
[06:05] <Ivanowitch> because i use xfce, not gnome...
[06:06] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> no problem! Free Software rules! Dont use Partition Magic
[06:06] <frfx> Punjabi: i used partition magic but it gaves errors :s
[06:06] <smax> PunjabiFLOYDIAN No He can run it from boot cd
[06:06] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> LOL. it sucks i know!
[06:06] <frfx> :)
[06:06] <LjL> metalhedd: well, i pass. i wouldn't have a clue how to install it without breaking half of the system. perhaps a chroot might be of help (or even a virtual machine with a gcc-4.1 system on it, if you think it's worth doing), though still i couldn't guide you into the specifics
[06:06] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> frfx: i sincerely recommend that u give the Gparted CD a try.
[06:07] <ladydoor> frfx: i'll second the gparted suggestion...
[06:07] <frfx> i hope gparted wont give errors :) ok i will follow your recommendation :)
[06:07] <smax> frfx What error
[06:07] <cleeren> wols:i have lost connection, please can you explain this to me, about my sound problem?
[06:07] <Saftool> wols_:I went in edit and pressed o to add line then edit gain to add acpi= off then noacpi on another line.  I then pressed b for boot.. but it gives me line 27 unrecognized command
[06:07] <frfx> smax: dont know. error #xxxx something like that :)
[06:07] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> frfx: parted is very stable. i found it very useful. handles every partition.
[06:07] <supermiguel> does any one know about ftp?
[06:07] <lupine_85> add the line to the end of the kernel line
[06:07] <ladydoor> Saftool: which one of those two lines is line 27?
[06:07] <b^j> supermiguel, what do you need
[06:07] <lupine_85> (rather than creating a new one!)
[06:08] <Saftool> ladydoor:noacpi
[06:08] <smax> frfx If you have error's you may have try something like acronis soft
[06:08] <fulld> how do i get gaim2 for dapper? do i have to use some soft of backport from edgy?
[06:08] <ladydoor> Saftool: yeah, definitely put it with the kernel options.
[06:08] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> sudo apt-get install gaim
[06:08] <ladydoor> fulld: you could just install from source...
[06:08] <RedGhost> KenSentMe, I know how to open the file, I just want the default command to x not y
[06:08] <Saftool> ladydoor:on one of the kernel lines above it?
[06:08] <tritium> gaim should be installed by default
[06:09] <frfx> smax: nah i think it is a problem of partition magic.that program sucks
[06:09] <ladydoor> Saftool: yup...
[06:09] <supermiguel> b^j:  locally i can access to my ftp page but when someone else try to access it ask for the password when he put the right password it give im error
[06:09] <Saftool> not on its own
[06:09] <cleeren> wols_ : can you please help me again, i have lost the connection and the information you've sent...
[06:09] <Saftool> cool trying again
[06:09] <smax> frfx What did you wanna do whith your partitin table?
[06:09] <frfx> smax: just make partitions larger or smaller :)
[06:10] <ladydoor> tritium: this person'a asking about the *new* gaim, not the old one.
[06:10] <jrib> cleeren: 12:04 <           wols_ > cleeren: add the user to the group "audio"
[06:10] <Intangir> frfx: check out gparted
[06:10] <smax> frfx by delete old partition's and creating new  or by resizing ?
[06:10] <tritium> ladydoor: okay
[06:10] <ladydoor> fulld: if you go to their website, they have the source for gaim2.0.0beta3, and you can just install that if you divert ubuntu's gaim to another location
[06:11] <cleeren> jrib: how can i do this?
[06:11] <b^j> supermiguel, what ftp server do you use, you may have to add a user to the specail ftp users, you may have to mark them as ok in your ftp configuration, any number of things, i am not familiar with many ftp servers so you will probably have to read the fine manual for your server
[06:11] <ladydoor> fulld: (with sudo sudo dpkg-divert --divert /usr/bin/gaim.ubuntu --rename /usr/bin/gaim
[06:11] <ladydoor> )
[06:11] <jrib> cleeren: system > adminstration > users and groups.  Go to properties for your user, then "user privileges", and let him "use audio devices"
[06:11] <supermiguel> im using gproftpd
[06:12] <Saftool> ladydoor: tried it and no error messages from the boot options but still getting the i8042 error and still hangign at the login screen
[06:12] <supermiguel> the error on windows says that i dont have permision to do it
[06:12] <cleeren> jrib: thanx a lot, i'll try this...
[06:12] <ladydoor> Saftool: sorry, i wasn't here for the first part of your problem...i'd ask someone who was helping you before :-(
[06:12] <shoonya> hi all
[06:13] <cleeren> jrib/ i suppose i have to be root to do this?
[06:13] <Saftool> ladydoor:its ok i am giving up and stickign to windows :S
[06:13] <jrib> cleeren: no, but you need a user with sudo privileges (your original user works)
[06:13] <shoonya> need help in installing ubuntu edgy knot3
[06:13] <ladydoor> Saftool: whatever you like
[06:13] <cleeren> jrib: yes - ok thanx
[06:13] <ladydoor> shoonya: there'll be more help in #ubuntu+1
[06:13] <shoonya> ok
[06:14] <fulld> ladydoor: thanks
[06:14] <ladydoor> fulld: np.
[06:15] <Tomcat_> smax: Good. :D
[06:16] <optimusprime> can openoffice be installed through "apt-get"?
[06:16] <LjL> optimusprime: yes
[06:16] <smax> Tomcat_ No fighting with compiz ))
[06:16] <LjL> optimusprime: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org" (or my favourite "sudo aptitude install openoffice.org")
[06:16] <cbx33> how do we install compiz now
[06:16] <cbx33> smax, is it still the howto on the wiki?
[06:17] <baby> How to install Q-cam?
[06:17] <cbx33> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager
[06:17] <smax> cbx33 howto don't help me my gnome crashed
[06:17] <cbx33> smax, oh, I had that happen before
[06:17] <cbx33> you're using xgl server?
[06:18] <smax> cbx33 yes
[06:18] <cbx33> which repos did you get the packages from
[06:19] <smax> cbx33 dapper repo
[06:19] <cbx33> smax, when I did it and got it working i used the quinn repo
[06:19] <adrian> If anyone has 2 minutes, I am a very new convert. I read that ubuntu does not have a firewall switched on initially on install. Is this correct, and is it the same with kubuntu? thx in advance
[06:19] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> how can i clear up my desktop? remove every icon?
[06:19] <cbx33> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager
[06:20] <LjL> adrian: that's correct.
[06:20] <kaolti> hey
[06:20] <LjL> !shorewall
[06:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[06:20] <kaolti> can i ask a question
[06:20] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> kaolti: no one is stopping you! ask
[06:20] <adrian> Thanks, so I need to look for that then thanks
[06:20] <Yaakov> I think you just did...
[06:20] <kaolti> how can i format a fat32 drive from ubuntu?
[06:20] <LjL> adrian: firestarter and shorewall are the two most common choices for firewall interfaces, i think
[06:20] <txoof> I'm attempting to apt-get packages from the multiverse.  I've added the multiverse lines to /etc/apt/sources.list but the packages don't appear in dselect and apt-get can't find them.  Any ideas where I should start with this problem?
[06:21] <LjL> adrian: however, until you install a server program, i don't think you should worry too much about firewalling
[06:21] <kaolti> i have a windows drive
[06:21] <kaolti> of no
[06:21] <b^j> kaolti, mkdosfs
[06:21] <kaolti> srty
[06:21] <kaolti> its ntfs
[06:21] <smax> cbx33 don't you know where I can download this pack's manualy ( I have traffic limit)
[06:21] <LjL> txoof: "sudo apt-get update"
[06:21] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guys how can i clear up the desktop
[06:21] <silent_scream> I installed lirc with success! now how can i control aplications with my remote? i use gnome...
[06:21] <kaolti> the ntfs is mounted
[06:21] <txoof> LjL: it claimst that it is hitting backports/multiverse, but I still can't find the pacages.
[06:21] <kaolti> i cant acces it
[06:22] <surface> PunjabiFLOYDIAN:  cd ~/.Desktop
[06:22] <kaolti> but i have to format it
[06:22] <b^j> kaolti, ntfs is a whole other can of worms, i don't deal with it so can't help you, good luck
[06:22] <kaolti> mkdosfs doesnt work
[06:22] <txoof> packages.ubuntu.com claim that they are there.
[06:22] <kaolti> ok
[06:22] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i want to clear the icons off it
[06:22] <kaolti> but wait
[06:22] <kaolti> i dont need the data on it
[06:22] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i want to remove the icons. how to?
[06:22] <b^j> mkdos is only fat
[06:22] <LjL> txoof: what package is that?
[06:22] <txoof> LjL: mythtv
[06:22] <txoof> LjL: it's supposed to be in dapper, but I can't find it.
[06:22] <LjL> txoof: can you put your sources.list on the pastebin?
[06:22] <LjL> yes, it is in multiverse indeed
[06:23] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guys how to remove the icons from the desktop please?
[06:23] <lupine_85> !info mythtv dapper
[06:23] <ubotu> mythtv: A personal video recorder application (client and server). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.18.1-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 64 kB
[06:23] <LjL> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: right click on them, and remove?
[06:23] <lupine_85> there it is :)
[06:23] <smax> bmpx is in dapper repo or not
[06:23] <txoof> LjL: sure can.  What's the link to the pastebin?
[06:23] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> not possible. there are drives.
[06:23] <smax> !info mythtv dappe
[06:23] <ubotu> mythtv: A personal video recorder application (client and server). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.18.1-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 64 kB
[06:23] <kaolti> i just have to delete the partition
[06:23] <LjL> !tell txoof about pastebin
[06:23] <smax> !info mythtv dapper
[06:23] <ubotu> mythtv: A personal video recorder application (client and server). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.18.1-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 64 kB
[06:23] <kaolti> how can i do it?
[06:23] <kaolti> i cant unomunt it
[06:23] <kaolti> device is busy
[06:23] <smax> !info bmpx dapper
[06:23] <ubotu> Package bmpx does not exist in dapper
[06:23] <lupine_85> kaolti: cd /
[06:23] <cdavis> how do I name a screen when I ctrl-a c to make a new one?
[06:23] <b^j> kaolti, you have some application, probably a terminal in that dir, cd out of it
[06:23] <lupine_85> then try unmounting it
[06:24] <smax> Which program I should used to run windows or edgy by virtual machine?
[06:24] <kaolti> oh sorry
[06:24] <kaolti> i got it
[06:24] <lupine_85> !qemu
[06:24] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[06:24] <lupine_85> !vmware
[06:24] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[06:24] <kaolti> thank
[06:24] <kaolti> s
[06:24] <LjL> smax: QEmu, or VMWare, or Virtual PC
[06:24] <adrian> thank you LjL and ubotu I am now immersing myself again. I am really glad of the help and very impressed with the package and ethos. Thumgs up to all :)
[06:25] <carlp> hello, when i try to boot ubuntu, i get error: "Error #20    AX=4200    Drive EF"    any clues?
[06:25] <LjL> smax: only the former two run on Linux, and only the first is open source
[06:25] <txoof> LjL: I posted the relevant stuff.
[06:25] <LjL> txoof: what's the link? (and hold on a moment, 'cause for some reason i can't connect to the pastebin)
[06:26] <LjL> txoof: ok, nevermind, connected and found it
[06:26] <b^j> can anyone tell me what became of my virtual terminals, i seem to have lost them and would like them back
[06:26] <txoof> LjL: here's a link to the entire file: http://txoof.ath.cx/sources.list
[06:27] <lsproc> Hi. I installed the standard aresnal of web servers (apache, php, mysql etc.). I try to run a php script, and it tries to download it
[06:27] <b^j> lsproc, php probably doesn't have a file handler in  your httpd.conf file
[06:27] <JosefK> anyone seen "timestamp too far in the future" on a clean install of Dapper?
[06:27] <carlp> hello, when i try to boot ubuntu, i get error: "Error #20    AX=4200    Drive EF"    any clues??
[06:27] <JosefK> can't sudo because of it :/
[06:27] <LjL> txoof: can't load that one either, my connection is acting up... but i got to downlaod the pastebin one. is that your *entire* sources.list? it's a bit short, and it only lists backports, not multiverse?
[06:27] <b^j> JosefK, is your time right?
[06:27] <lsproc> b^j: What shall I add?
[06:28] <txoof> LjL: that's just the line that lists the multiverse section.
[06:28] <LjL> txoof: you have to enable the multiverse part *of the dapper repository*, not of the dapper-backports repository
[06:28] <b^j> lsproc, ahh, i don't remember, the httpd.conf ifile is well documented in the file
[06:28] <lsproc> nope
[06:28] <lsproc> it isnt
[06:28] <JosefK> b^j: date reports okay
[06:28] <txoof> LjL: I see that now.
[06:29] <LjL> txoof: every repository (dapper, dapper-backports, dapper-etcetc) has the "main", "universe", "multiverse" etc sections
[06:29] <afd_> hi! I'm having problems with my ethernet connection. The internet works fine, but as soon as I try to transfer large files on the local network, the network connection freezes and I'm getting NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out in the dmesg
[06:29] <b^j> lsproc, it is in other distros, i don't run ubuntu as a server
[06:29] <txoof> I just realized that.
[06:29] <afd_> Anyone has a clue on what I should do? Googling didn't help
[06:29] <JosefK> b^j: I think it wasn't when I installed (1 hr+), networked time update set it correct, so after an hour it should be okay *sighs*
[06:29] <txoof> LjL: where can I find a link to the proper multiverse entry?
[06:29] <LjL> txoof: so if you only enable multiverse in dapper-backports, you only get the packages from multiverse *that have been backported* (which, i guess, is next to zero)
[06:29] <b^j> JosefK, yeah, should be
[06:29] <LjL> !tell txoof about sources
[06:29] <LjL> !tell txoof about easysource
[06:31] <b^j> lsproc, i have something like     AddType application/x-httpd-php .php on freebsd, i would assume its the same
[06:31] <lsproc> ah
[06:31] <lsproc> thanks
[06:31] <cbx33> how do I install tahoma.ttf in ubuntu for wine?
[06:31] <cbx33> msttcorefonts pacakge doesn't exist any more
[06:32] <b^j> lsproc, sorry that took so long had to jump through a couple systems to get to a host with apache
[06:32] <txoof> Ljl what source do I want for mythtv?  It's listed as part of the multiverse on packages.ubuntu.com
[06:32] <lsproc> still no worky
[06:33] <lsproc> ah
[06:33] <lsproc> anyone know where the php5 apache module is
[06:33] <b^j> lsproc, you restart apache? is the php module loaded via a LoadModule php5_module        libexec/apache/libphp5.so or similar?
[06:33] <lsproc> ah
[06:33] <erUSUL> cbx33: i found it in google and just ccopied it to ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts/
[06:33] <lsproc> i need the loadmodule
[06:33] <cbx33> ok cool
[06:33] <trappist> lsproc: libapache2-mod-php5
[06:33] <trappist> lsproc: apache or apache2?
[06:34] <lsproc> apache2
[06:34] <lsproc> with the libapache
[06:34] <trappist> lsproc: install the above package and sudo a2enmod php5
[06:34] <trappist> a2enmod as in apach2 enable module
[06:34] <trappist> *apache2
[06:34] <lsproc> thanks
[06:35] <lsproc> :D
[06:35] <lsproc> works
[06:35] <lsproc> now, whenever apache loads I get this error:
[06:35] <lsproc> apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName
[06:35] <lsproc> how do i fix that
[06:36] <b^j> lsproc, specify a fqdn in you /etc/hosts and refer to it in your httpd.conf file
[06:36] <trappist> lsproc: set ServerName in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[06:36] <lsproc> uh
[06:36] <lsproc> oh
[06:36] <lsproc> set it to localhost?
[06:36] <b^j> i think it needs to be in your hosts file too, not sure
[06:36] <trappist> b^j: httpd.conf isn't really used anymore
[06:37] <trappist> b^j: it doesn't have to be in /etc/hosts, as long as it's resolvable
[06:37] <lsproc> it didnt
[06:37] <lsproc> its localhost so it doesnt
[06:37] <b^j> trappist, like i said, i don't use ubuntu for servers, i use freebsd or openbsd which still use it
[06:37] <CNote> hello, I have a question on using Hibernation feature on an IBM thinkpad, how to enable it ec.
[06:37] <CNote> etc
[06:38] <trappist> b^j: with apache2?
[06:38] <b^j> trappist, i think i am still using apaceh 1.* due to some random php  issues
[06:38] <b^j> i would need to look
[06:39] <trappist> b^j: same here on freebsd (but not for php issues, which have pretty much been resolved) - anyway httpd.conf is ye olde apache config file, still exists for backwards compatibility, but it's apache2.conf in apache2
[06:40] <HumanPrototype> hey - which kernel is best for an amd dual core?
[06:40] <b^j> i686
[06:40] <b^j> err
[06:40] <trappist> HumanPrototype: amd64 dual core?
[06:40] <b^j> sorry didn't read all your question
[06:41] <b^j> ia64 i would guess, i have intel duo
[06:41] <sonium> does anyone know a site that does a security check on my server? something like nessus, but online?
[06:41] <wols_> b^j: wrong
[06:41] <WinterWeaver> !compiz
[06:41] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:41] <wols_> HumanPrototype: k8. if that's not possible, k7
[06:42] <HumanPrototype> trappist, yup
[06:42] <HumanPrototype> wols_,  oh ok, thanks
[06:42] <xst> Remote printing with CUPS over IPP has been broken in dapper for quite some time now. Does anyone know when a fix for this bug will be available? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/55243
[06:43] <b^j> wols_, wow, i can't type today, meant amd64
[06:43] <chiefinnovator> OK, I want to install FreeNx, and the wiki points me to this page: http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/  and just says "Add repository", so how do I add this repository?
[06:43] <krups> b^j is still wrong.  if you have a k8 motherboard use that.  if you have a k7 motherboard use that.  spm enabled.
[06:44] <krups> spm=smp
[06:44] <erUSUL> !seveas
[06:44] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:44] <erUSUL> !seveas > chiefinnovator
[06:44] <trappist> unless of course he has/wants an amd64 system
[06:44] <chiefinnovator> thanks erUSUL
[06:45] <drache> I tried to install Ubuntu on my system, I've got a eVga geforce 7600 GS, and X refuses to start, even on the live disk.
[06:45] <erUSUL> chiefinnovator: no problem
[06:45] <HumanPrototype> i have an amd 64bit skt 939 x2
[06:45] <TuxthePenguin84> drache, do the vesa driver or the "Safe install"
[06:45] <drache> No idea.
[06:46] <b^j> do amd64 run on k7? i thought they were all k8
[06:46] <rootz> anyone know some other mirror do knot-3?
[06:46] <TuxthePenguin84> try the safe install mode on the live cd
[06:46] <the_killer> hi there !!
[06:46] <drache> Right-o.
[06:46] <TuxthePenguin84> drache, this will use the vesa driver
[06:46] <drache> Lame though, I'll have like 0 hardware acceleration
[06:47] <TuxthePenguin84> yea but then you can setup the nvidia drivers later to have acceleration
[06:47] <TuxthePenguin84> i have the same problem with my ati drivers
[06:47] <chiefinnovator> I'm going to update the wiki page on installing FreeNx
[06:47] <chiefinnovator> how do I link to another page on the wiki AND how do I do italics
[06:48] <drache> Ubuntu is the only distro so far to barf on Nvidia :\
[06:48] <HumanPrototype> chiefinnovator, try either [[ ] ]  or [[[ ] ] ] 
[06:48] <ismaelbo> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[06:48] <HumanPrototype> for italics
[06:49] <chiefinnovator> HumanPrototype, italics is '' ''
[06:49] <ismaelbo> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa angela
[06:49] <chiefinnovator> read the bottom of the page ...
[06:49] <chiefinnovator> HumanPrototype, sweet name!!!
[06:49] <ismaelbo> ola angela
[06:49] <drache> How do I get this thing to do a safe install mode?
[06:50] <Admiral_Chicago> drache, safe?
[06:50] <rene32> Any recommendations for a UPnP server?
[06:50] <TuxthePenguin84> when you boot from the live cd theres a menu, choose safe video or safe install. cant remember which one
[06:50] <mic_> net
[06:50] <ismaelbo> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[06:50] <ismaelbo> hola tuna
[06:51] <HumanPrototype> chiefinnovator, oh ok - i was thinkin of the doc.gwos site
[06:51] <lupine_85> !es
[06:51] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:51] <HumanPrototype> chiefinnovator, thanks bout the name
[06:51] <rene32> !upnp
[06:51] <Arcad3> hi folks
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upnp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <ismaelbo> yo soy espaol
[06:51] <Arcad3> hola
[06:51] <drache> I get 0 amount of choices.
[06:51] <ismaelbo> hola
[06:51] <kintaro0e> hello guys..i cant hear sounds on youtube.com ..what shall i need to install?
[06:51] <[BTF] Chm0d> hey guys im trying to unrar something using ark and i get this error The utility unrar is not in your PATH any suggestions?
[06:51] <drache> I get... hit enter to for default live system
[06:52] <TuxthePenguin84> drache, no menu with a few options?
[06:52] <drache> No menu.
[06:52] <drache> Period.
[06:52] <kitche> [BTF] Chm0d: you probably don't have unrar installed
[06:52] <ismaelbo> hola
[06:52] <TuxthePenguin84> what version of the ubuntu live cd do you have?
[06:52] <drache> 5.10 , it's an older version :\
[06:52] <dpm> [BTF] Chm0d: I know it may sound obvious, but have you installed unrar?
[06:52] <chiefinnovator> wow, I still can't do links on the wiki!  I want to link to another wiki page, is there a special syntax or do I just treat it like a normal link?
[06:52] <jasomja> hi, i have dapper , and want kvim, i try vim-part, last yzis , but nothing finish good, is some way to install vim as kde componnet ? (with compiling yzis i have problem with lib lua) , .... any ideas ??
[06:52] <[BTF] Chm0d> didn't know i needed unrar thought ark handled rar files
[06:52] <ismaelbo> alguien espaol spain
[06:52] <TuxthePenguin84> drache, oh ok you might want to download 6.06.1 LIVE CD
[06:52] <[BTF] Chm0d> but ill install unrar
[06:52] <Arcad3> nornal link
[06:53] <drache> Oh great.... another CD to download.
[06:53] <erUSUL> !es > ismaelbo
[06:53] <jazzrocker> jasomja, just use gvim?
[06:53] <Arcad3> who can help me with this code ef4ce60654d75c40415ed44db0460e94?
[06:53] <P3L|C4N0> ismaelbo, ingrese en  #ubuntu-es
[06:53] <jazzrocker> jasomja, if you use gvim why not use GNOME?
[06:53] <TuxthePenguin84> drache, or try this....
[06:53] <trappist> Arcad3: huh
[06:53] <jasomja> jazzrocker> i want use it as komponent fo kdevelop, od kyzis
[06:53] <LiraNuna> Arcad3, what is this code for?
[06:53] <ismaelbo> hola
[06:53] <Arcad3> a text
[06:53] <TuxthePenguin84> drache, if X fails to start get to a command prompt type: sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:54] <jazzrocker> jasomja, vim was not designed to do that. that's why the kvim project branched, they've got different development goals. vim is not aimed at being an embedable widget
[06:54] <TuxthePenguin84> drache, look for 'driver' and put 'vesa' next to tit
[06:54] <trappist> Arcad3: it's just a bunch of hex characters.  it's useless without knowing what it is.
[06:54] <drache> Hooray, xorg.conf editing, my favourite.
[06:54] <TuxthePenguin84> then do startx
[06:54] <Arcad3> Md5 Hash
[06:54] <Caplain> whats a good dvd player?
[06:54] <trappist> Arcad3: and you want to do what with it.  reverse it?
[06:54] <LiraNuna> VLC
[06:54] <drache> Thanks, I needed to know what to edit in there.
[06:54] <jrib> Caplain: xine
[06:54] <kitche> [BTF] Chm0d: ark is a frontend to tar unrar rar zip and gzip
[06:54] <dpm> I've got a weird "error" with Evolution 2.8 in Edgy. If I launch it from the applications menu ('evolution --component=mail'), it works fine. However, if I start it from a keyboard shortcut defined under System>Preferences>Keyboart Shortcuts>Email, it does not seem to communicate with the gnome-keyring daemon, since it asks me for the password of each and every account upon startup. Any ideas what this could be?
[06:54] <Arcad3> yes
[06:54] <drache> I'll try it as soon as it boots.
[06:54] <erUSUL> ismaelbo: deja de repetir hola y vete a #ubuntu-es (como se te ha dicho 4 o 5 veces) si queres soporte en castellano
[06:54] <jrib> dpm: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[06:54] <[BTF] Chm0d> got it kitche THX
[06:55] <TuxthePenguin84> find 'driver' and put 'vesa' in whatevers theres place
[06:55] <dpm> jrib: thanks
[06:55] <trappist> Arcad3: it's theoretically irreversible.  if you have a massive supercomputer handy, you can probably do it in a few years, though.
[06:55] <wols_> TuxthePenguin84: that's the wrong way to do it
[06:55] <wols_> drache: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:55] <TuxthePenguin84> hes using a livecd
[06:55] <Arcad3> i'll try something else
[06:55] <ismaelbo> hola
[06:55] <drache> No
[06:55] <drache> I have my dead install
[06:55] <ladydoor> !es
[06:55] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:55] <drache> That's already on the HD
[06:56] <TuxthePenguin84> oh i thought you said it was a livecd
[06:56] <wols_> Tidus: it'S still irreversible
[06:56] <trappist> Arcad3: also, it's an md5sum of what.  if it's a password, the supercomputer route is your best bet.  if it's like a cd image or something, it absolutely can't be done.
[06:56] <drache> I have both
[06:56] <wols_> Arcad3: you can't since a md5 hash cannot contain the full information of the original unless that original is not bigger than 128 bits
[06:56] <drache> but I have a dead install as well
[06:56] <Arcad3> i thing is a phppage
[06:56] <TuxthePenguin84> the dead install wont let you get to a command line?
[06:57] <Arcad3> encrypted
[06:57] <lin0> mako_ : hi
[06:57] <trappist> Arcad3: can't be done.
[06:57] <wols_> Arcad3: a md5has is no encryption
[06:57] <ismaelbo> hola alguien espaol
[06:57] <trappist> ismaelbo: #ubuntu-es
[06:57] <ladydoor> !es
[06:57] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:58] <Caplain> jrib, what about totem? i cant get it to work, whines about plugins etc
[06:58] <sycho> ok this may sound silly but its something I'm trying to work around. When I put nautilus into "view as list" mode when I copy a file I can't right click and then paste as nautilis always selects a file? anyway that I can make it so when i right click it dosn't select a file or that I can paste?
[06:58] <drache> WHOA
[06:58] <drache> we have picture
[06:58] <wols_> drache: what videocard do you have? what chip?
[06:58] <drache> Through the muddled mess of the dpkg method
[06:58] <drache> eVga 7600GS
[06:59] <drache> 256MB
[06:59] <wols_> nv driver should work
[06:59] <wols_> !nvidia
[06:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:59] <drache> Seriously? That gives full acceleration?
[06:59] <wols_> 2D
[06:59] <trappist> drache: no
[06:59] <wols_> drache: but anything is better than VESA
[06:59] <lin0> mako_ : Hi. I have a question for you regarding your participation in the 4th World Forum on Free Knowledge
[06:59] <lupine_85> what's wrong with the nvidia driver?
[06:59] <vovik> anyone know when edgy release is?
[07:00] <lupine_85> !schedul
[07:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about schedul - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:00] <lupine_85> !schedule
[07:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:00] <TuxthePenguin84> october i think
[07:00] <TuxthePenguin84> maybe november
[07:00] <vovik> damn
[07:00] <vovik> i was hoping beginning of october
[07:01] <vovik> so october 26th?
[07:01] <trappist> yes
[07:02] <manue1> como va esto??
[07:02] <ladydoor> !es
[07:02] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:02] <erUSUL> !es
[07:02] <supermiguel> !es
[07:02] <erUSUL> ladydoor: i'm not fast enough ;)
[07:02] <vovik> hmm my xchat doesn't show the n-tilde
[07:02] <CrippsFX> I'm running Ubuntu Dapper amd64 ... I have a bcm4318 card, which if you didn't know, has broken firmware for bcm43xx module ... so, I'm using ndiswrapper ... after finally working around module aliasing probs and such, I finally got my card up, and doing "iwlist eth1 scan" flawlessly ... my problem is that I don't seem to be able to acquire an address from my AP ... any suggestions?
[07:02] <drache> Hnn... nv drivers barf as well
[07:02] <GigaClon> I seem to have both mozilla and firefox on this system can I remove mozilla?
[07:03] <drache> It'll be VESA until I can go through that setup
[07:03] <DutchR_PW> GigaClon: probably
[07:03] <erUSUL> CrippsFX: have you tried 'sudo dhclient eth1'
[07:03] <CrippsFX> drache, if the nv driver is euchered, then just get the proprietary accelerated drivers ;)
[07:03] <ladydoor> erUSUL: lol
[07:03] <DutchR_PW> GigaClon: but maybe it's needed for some other package (try removing it, it will tell you if this is the case)
[07:04] <drache> It won't let me build them I'm quite sure.
[07:04] <drache> I tried before, it eats me in GCC errors and many weird things
[07:04] <sonium> test
[07:04] <knapper> how can I fix the shift+backspace bug? anyone know?
[07:04] <GigaClon> DutchR_PW, the only thing its remove is libswt
[07:04] <CrippsFX> erUSUL, That was the first thing I tried. I don't use the gui to set up my networking.
[07:04] <michael> hi
[07:04] <CrippsFX> drache, read the how to for hardware on the ubuntu wiki ... you don't need to build them.
[07:05] <Admiral_Chicago> knapper, XGL?
[07:05] <DutchR_PW> GigaClon: then it can probably be deinstalled (as nothing depends on that lib)
[07:05] <drache> I know, it just does a mild little setup
[07:05] <knapper> Admiral, I figured it out, tnx
[07:05] <drache> a couple of "Returns" should get it working.
[07:05] <drache> What's the link to the HOWTO?
[07:05] <james296> for some reason I cant remove easyubuntu using Synaptic because it says this...
[07:05] <CrippsFX> drache, gimme a sec, I'll dig it up.
[07:06] <drache> Thank you.
[07:06] <james296> E: easyubuntu: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[07:06] <michael> i read http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Java that there is a final built sun java package for dapper
[07:06] <james296> why is that?
[07:06] <erUSUL> james296:you will get better suport in  #easyubuntu
[07:06] <ladydoor> GigaClon: sudo aptitude remove mozilla-browser
[07:06] <CrippsFX> drache, https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html
[07:07] <michael> therefor i added deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted multiverse to my sources.list
[07:07] <GTX> b
[07:07] <GTX> How do I recomplie my kernel to support 1000 Timer frequency
[07:07] <michael> but i cant finde the sun java packages by using adept
[07:07] <erUSUL> !kernel
[07:07] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:07] <michael> what am i doing wrong ?
[07:07] <wols_> GTX: erm, didn't the kernel do this since... 486 days or so?
[07:07] <wols_> !java
[07:07] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:08] <GTX> wols_, Yes it supports 1000 by I need to set it to that some how.
[07:08] <erUSUL> wols_: no it was 100 then got changed to 1000 then reverted to 250 and now you can choose betwwen the three options
[07:08] <wols_> GTX: you mean the scheduler which decides how many context switches per second?
[07:08] <michael> ubotu, ok... and how can i use the multiverse repository
[07:08] <GTX> no wols_ Kernel Clocker Timer.
[07:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok... and how can i use the multiverse repository - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:09] <michael> by adding multiverse to my sources list ?
[07:09] <CrippsFX> !multiverse
[07:09] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:09] <erUSUL> wols_: in the future with the dynticks patch it will bo timerless to save battery and resources
[07:09] <CrippsFX> michael, that's for you
[07:10] <Astray> :o
[07:11] <Astray> Hi.
[07:11] <carlp> when i download ubuntu, it only says 399megabyte in windows for the .iso  ....   why?
[07:11] <carlp> but i have downloaded 699
[07:12] <Jack_Sparrow> carlp: Is that the alt cd/iso
[07:12] <toby> I have 2 monitors that are set up so that you can't move the mouse from one to the other (this is on purpose) there is a key combination to move the mouse cursor between them but I don't know it - any help?
[07:12] <carlp> Jack_Sparrow:  no
[07:12] <carlp> desktop i386
[07:12] <Jack_Sparrow> md5sum will probably show a bad download
[07:12] <carlp> i have downloaded it 2 times aswell
[07:13] <DutchR_PW> carlp: probably windows shows a wrong filesize or your download is corrupt.
[07:13] <carlp> ok
[07:13] <Astray> Your download didn't finish if it's that small
[07:13] <DutchR_PW> carlp: but if the md5sum is right, you shouldn't worry about it
[07:13] <Jack_Sparrow> nero has a freeware md5 checker
[07:13] <drache> ....
[07:14] <drache> Yeah that didn't work out so well
[07:14] <SS2> does epiphany have a tab remember function?
[07:15] <carlp> where is the md5 checker in nero?
[07:15] <drache> Now I just get a X trying to start, and then hanging there.
[07:15] <drache> With the white cursor.
[07:15] <wols_> carlp: google "windows md5sum download". there are many programs.
[07:15] <drache> I have to mess with this crap later.
[07:16] <drache> thanks for your help!!
[07:16] <Z-DoC> Hello, I have a question ... can you install Ubuntu from the cd without booting the cd? I have a compaq laptop that don't want to boot from the cd ....
[07:17] <DutchR_PW> Z-DoC: you can, but it will be very hard
[07:17] <Jack_Sparrow> carlp: Google nero md5 .. it is a sep. program you download from them
[07:17] <DutchR_PW> as you have to copy the cd to your harddisk manually
[07:17] <Z-DoC> that's what i figured :)
[07:17] <Z-DoC> is there a procedure for that ?
[07:18] <wols_> Z-DoC: you might be able to make a boot floppy
[07:18] <DutchR_PW> I don't know exactly.. you probably have to copy the cd to one harddisk partition first, and then boot from that HD, and then install to another partition
[07:19] <juanluis> como te llamas
[07:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[07:19] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:19] <Lunar_Lamp> ok, i understand that xchat doesn't use ident by default, but is there a guide on how to enable and use it on ubuntu?
[07:19] <Lunar_Lamp> !ident
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ident - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <Tomcat_> Lunar_Lamp: The xchat website has some info on that.
[07:20] <wols_> Lunar_Lamp: get and identd. midentd comes to mind
[07:20] <deathz0r> hi, i just installed my ubuntu cd on a laptop (acer aspire 3000 series) and i can't set up the modem.
[07:20] <Z-DoC> ok thanks for the ideas..... :)
[07:20] <Tomcat_> Lunar_Lamp: Basically, you install an ident server (whatever you want) and open the port.
[07:20] <nysosym> hi guys
[07:20] <wols_> deathz0r: it's prpbably a winmodem
[07:20] <deathz0r> wols_ means it wont work on ubuntu?
[07:20] <Jack_Sparrow> deathz0r:  what type of modem is it?
[07:20] <nysosym> rhythmbox crashs with this message, maybe any workaround?
[07:20] <nysosym> (rhythmbox:8942): Rhythmbox-WARNING **: unassigned unicode character type found
[07:21] <wols_> deathz0r: probably. manufacturer doesn't give out specs or drivers
[07:21] <Tomcat_> Z-DoC: Probably easier to take the drive out and install somewhere else onto it... or install somewhere else altogether and copy the data over to your disk... should be a similar system then.
[07:21] <carlp> sorry for being a newbeginner, but "paste original checksum"   what should i paste ? :-)
[07:21] <lin0> mako_ : are you coming to the 4th world forum on free knowledge?
[07:21] <Jack_Sparrow> deathz0r: Internal external. serial usb?
[07:21] <deathz0r> Jack_Sparrow internal
[07:21] <ladydoor> Lunar_Lamp: try installing ident2
[07:21] <deathz0r> wols_ yeah, could be
[07:21] <Lunar_Lamp> i don't really understand what ident is to be honest, i'm installing oidentd at the moment - and think i have to enable it in xinetd.conf
[07:21] <ladydoor> Lunar_Lamp: (sudo aptitude install ident2)
[07:21] <ladydoor> Lunar_Lamp: ok, go for it, then!
[07:21] <Tomcat_> Lunar_Lamp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ident
[07:21] <Lunar_Lamp> is ident2 the 'best' then?
[07:21] <wols_> Lunar_Lamp: it's a crappy remnant of days gone by. useless now
[07:21] <mike__> is there a way to chat with webcam in linux
[07:22] <Jack_Sparrow> deathz0r: Does  typing in terminal show your modem  ...  dmesg | grep ttyS
[07:22] <wols_> deathz0r: your're talking about the v90 56k modem, right?
[07:22] <Tomcat_> Lunar_Lamp: Basically it asks the computer on the other side who the person is using the TCP connection... :o
[07:22] <carlp> sorry for being a newbeginner, but "paste original checksum"   what should i paste ? :-)
[07:22] <deathz0r> actually its v92
[07:22] <deathz0r> the autodetect doesnt work
[07:22] <Tomcat_> Lunar_Lamp: But these days, nobody cares anymore anyway.
[07:22] <DutchR_PW> mike_: yes, you can install Kopete or amsn which support webcam chatting afaik
[07:22] <Tomcat_> TobiF \o/
[07:22] <deathz0r> and also.. since i dual boot winxp and ubuntu
[07:22] <DutchR_PW> carlp: the checksum from the site
[07:23] <mike__> thaaks
[07:23] <deathz0r> i would like to config the grub loader
[07:23] <Lunar_Lamp> thanks tomcat_ - how do i configure it though - as installed oidentd and it says te daemon is running - but i have no idea how to configure it
[07:23] <deathz0r> but i cant find the root password
[07:23] <Jack_Sparrow> deathz0r: Open a terminal window and type...  dmesg | grep ttyS
[07:23] <DutchR_PW> mike_: no problem
[07:23] <deathz0r> to su and nano it.
[07:23] <wols_> deathz0r: if you installed ubuntu after XP, it should be configured already for dualbooting
[07:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !sudo
[07:23] <Tomcat_> Lunar_Lamp: Check the docs in /usr/share/oidentd... check if there is a file /etc/oidentd or a directory... or /etc/default/oidentd... these are the usual places. The docs will know it though.
[07:23] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:23] <wols_> deathz0r: there is none. use sudo
[07:23] <deathz0r> yes but i want xp to be default
[07:23] <Lunar_Lamp> thanks Tomcat_
[07:23] <deathz0r> my wife gets all crazy about it
[07:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Easy to do
[07:24] <Tomcat_> deathz0r: /boot/grub/menu.lst has a "default" line setting.
[07:24] <Jack_Sparrow> deathz0r: Pick one thing to do at a time
[07:24] <mike__> im also having problems with synaptic mouse in 6.0.6
[07:24] <deathz0r> Tomcat_ yes i know but as many i come from debian and im used to use su, completely forgot about sudo :P
[07:24] <Jack_Sparrow> mike__: asus motherboard or lappy
[07:24] <deathz0r> so my default user is a sudoer?
[07:25] <mike__> laptop
[07:25] <carlp> im sorry, but i dont understand where to find the checksum :(
[07:25] <Lunar_Lamp> Tomcat_ i was under the impression (from in mIRC) that ident was used to specify a username - but i can't see how the conf-file can be used to do this :-s
[07:25] <Jack_Sparrow> deathz0r:    gksudo gedit  /boot/grub/menu.lst   I suggest a backup    sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst ~/menu.lst.backup
[07:25] <Zemyla> Hey everyone.  Is vim 7.0 out as an apt package yet?
[07:26] <jazzrocker> Zemyla, yes
[07:26] <wols_> Lunar_Lamp: it will report the username the program runs under. or it will simpl,y make it up. as I said: identd is useless
[07:26] <Dr_willis> !info vim
[07:26] <ubotu> vim: Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor. In component main, is important. Version 1:6.4-006+2ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 541 kB, installed size 1100 kB
[07:26] <Dr_willis> !vim
[07:26] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[07:26] <Zemyla> It says that vim 6.4.6 is the latest version.
[07:26] <Zemyla> How do I update my lists?
[07:26] <trappist> Zemyla: it's in edgy
[07:27] <jazzrocker> Zemyla, http://www.freshnet.org/debian/dapper/vim7/
[07:27] <trappist> Zemyla: you don't usually get new versions of software in stable releases.  they generally backport bugfixes and security updates.
[07:27] <Zemyla> Ah.
[07:27] <jazzrocker> Zemyla, you'll need to: sudo apt-get --purge remove vim
[07:27] <jazzrocker> Zemyla, then install vim7
[07:27] <gershon> !info gnome-audio-profiles-properties
[07:27] <ubotu> Package gnome-audio-profiles-properties does not exist in any distro I know
[07:27] <robert_> blah
[07:27] <robert_> dpkg-deb: parse error, in file `php4-4.4.2/DEBIAN/control' near line 9: missing package name
[07:27] <jazzrocker> Zemyla, don't worry about that it wants to uninstall "ubuntu-desktop" because that's just a meta-package
[07:27] <trappist> Zemyla: what I do is add a deb-src entry in sources.list, apt-get source the package, and build it myself
[07:27] <jazzrocker> Zemyla, you should uninstall all vim stuff btw
[07:28] <ladydoor> Zemyla: you don't need to uninstall vim
[07:28] <trappist> Zemyla: that is, add a deb-src line for edgy
[07:28] <gershon> some1 on how to reset gnome's audio profiles?
[07:28] <ladydoor> Zemyla: there's a useful command called dpkg-divert
[07:28] <ladydoor> Zemyla: which allows you to keep ubuntu's installed version, which things may depend on now or later.
[07:28] <ladydoor> Zemyla: sudo dpkg-divert --divert /usr/bin/vim.ubuntu --rename /usr/bin/vim
[07:29] <ladydoor> jazzrocker: please see my last 4 comments to Zemyla--it's more useful and doesn't create dependency problems to use dpkg-divert than to uninstall, in this case.
[07:29] <wetduck> I need someone to help me to share a folder between a Mac with OS X installed and a PC/Ubuntu please.
[07:29] <jazzrocker> ladydoor, i haven't had any dependency problems
[07:30] <rdz> hi all. i am trying to use xinerama, but as soon as xinerama is enabled and i start the X again, the welcome-screen appears completely messed up on the laptop-display. what can i do about that?
[07:30] <rdz> !ubotu xinerama
[07:30] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[07:31] <ladydoor> jazzrocker: fair enough. however, it could cause problems to advise the same thing regarding other packages. for example, in Breezy i did this with firefox to install a more recent version, to avoid messing up anything that depended on firefox.
[07:31] <POVaddct> with ati cards supported by the radeon driver (not fglrx), one should prefer MergedFB over xinerama
[07:34] <rdz> POVaddct, but i use fglrx
[07:35] <Pretto> hi there.. does anyone here installed a windows service app using wine???
[07:35] <POVaddct> rdz: then i cannot help you. i only buy hardware the runs with open source drivers
[07:35] <POVaddct> s/the/that
[07:36] <CrippsFX> rdz, you can run aticonfig from the command line, and it will give you multihead with the right flags
[07:37] <CrippsFX> rdz, if you run aticonfig with no options, and read what it has to say, it's trivial to set up multihead with fglrx
[07:37] <rednaxel> what's the best practice to solve problems with UTF - ISO8859-1 conversion on samba shares? or NTFS/FAT partitions?
[07:38] <Pretto> any help???
[07:38] <lupine_85> mount the partition nls=utf8 ?
[07:38] <lupine_85> Pretto: as in a non-visual process?
[07:38] <lupine_85> don't think that's what wine is aimed at
[07:38] <cbx33> how do I put in preferences fo a package to be obtained fro ma specific repo?
[07:39] <CrippsFX> !patience > Pretto
[07:39] <lupine_85> it "might" work, but I wouldn't rely on it
[07:39] <Pretto> CrippsFX: i just asked.. no need to get attention :)
[07:40] <Pretto> lupine_85: yes.. i have a service that runs in background
[07:40] <Pretto> lupine_85: almost like a webserver
[07:40] <lupine_85> like I said, it might work
[07:40] <CrippsFX> Pretto, over irc, the inflection on what you say is left to the imagination. It quite often gets misconstrued .. that's why it's best to avoid questions like that.
[07:41] <rednaxel> lupine_85, do you have any sample? it's just nls or it needs another parametes
[07:41] <lupine_85> if you have the source, you'd be better compiling it against libwine
[07:41] <lupine_85> rednaxel: no, sorry. I'm pretty sure it's just nls= though
[07:41] <Pretto> lupine_85: it's proprietary,  i have the right to install it.. but i need to test if it can run on linux
[07:42] <CrippsFX> Pretto, then what's stopping you?
[07:42] <cbx33> oh how lovely I get a segmentation fault when force version in synaptic
[07:42] <marcin_ant> hi all
[07:42] <Plouj> any idea what I can do about this: http://sh.nu/p/3302 ?
[07:42] <marcin_ant> in topic on #ubuntu-kernel there is info that there is new kernel with fixed jmicron issue
[07:42] <lupine_85> Pretto: then install linux in a vmware machine and see if it runs
[07:43] <marcin_ant> unfortunately there is no info where is this kernel available to download
[07:43] <Pretto> CrippsFX: i did install it already, but seems that service isnt running... how can i check it?
[07:43] <marcin_ant> does anyone here know if this patched kernel is/will be available for dapper?
[07:43] <wols_> Plouj: it'S acknowledged as a bug but I dunno what you could do sorry.
[07:44] <Plouj> wols_: you mean there is a bug report about this on ubuntu's bugzilla?
[07:44] <CrippsFX> Pretto, using " ps ax|grep <wine or servicename>" is a start
[07:44] <wols_> Plouj: afaik yes
[07:44] <wols_> ipp being broken
[07:44] <MetaMorfoziS> !irda
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about irda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:44] <MetaMorfoziS> !irnfra
[07:44] <MetaMorfoziS> !infra
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about irnfra - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:44] <MetaMorfoziS> !ir
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about infra - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ir - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:45] <CrippsFX> MetaMorfoziS, what are you looking for?
[07:45] <wols_> !msg > MetaMorfoziS
[07:45] <fyrestrtr> MetaMorfoziS: learn to /msg ubotu yourquery instead of spamming the channel.
[07:45] <MetaMorfoziS> i want to use my ma600 dongle on ubuntu dapper
[07:45] <Plouj> wols_: does that apply to the http backend as well?
[07:45] <Pretto> CrippsFX: i have wine service running.. do you think that it could be my service or just wine?
[07:45] <CrippsFX> MetaMorfoziS, what steps have you gone through in trying to get it working?
[07:45] <[BTF] Chm0d> !multimedia
[07:45] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[07:46] <MetaMorfoziS> CrippsFX:  i have installed irdautils, and first time it worked
[07:46] <MetaMorfoziS> the obexftp -l
[07:46] <MetaMorfoziS> listed my phone's directory
[07:46] <MetaMorfoziS> but after a while, it goes wrong, and i can't restore it
[07:46] <CrippsFX> Pretto, is there any other details listed with it?
[07:46] <CrippsFX> MetaMorfoziS, "goes wrong" ?
[07:46] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[07:46] <Pretto> CrippsFX:  2813 pts/2    R+     0:00 grep wine
[07:47] <MetaMorfoziS> after a while it stopped working
[07:47] <mpech> re
[07:47] <mpech> help
[07:47] <MetaMorfoziS> and only said can't conenct
[07:47] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm after some reboots
[07:47] <mpech> what should i do to change MAC address ?!
[07:47] <mpech> i have this:
[07:47] <CrippsFX> Pretto, nope .... that's just grep running.
[07:47] <MetaMorfoziS> and it never worked after that
[07:47] <mpech> auto lo
[07:47] <mpech> iface lo inet loopback
[07:47] <mpech> auto eth0
[07:47] <mpech> hwaddress ether 00:co:9f:04:fc:86
[07:47] <mpech> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[07:47] <CrippsFX> !pastebin > mpech
[07:47] <mpech> it doesn't work :/
[07:47] <[BTF] Chm0d> hey guys how are you doing.  I just wanted to know what is the preferred app to view video content?
[07:47] <wols_> mpech: do NOT paste in here
[07:47] <wols_> !paster
[07:47] <wols_> !paste
[07:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:48] <Pretto> :S
[07:48] <MetaMorfoziS> nowhere an irda installing how-to?
[07:48] <mpech> oops
[07:48] <wols_> mpech: and your hwaddress is at the wrong place. must be belive "iface eth0"
[07:48] <lin0> mako: are you coming to the 4th world forum on free knowledge?
[07:48] <aLPHa_LeaK>  'lo
[07:48] <CrippsFX> MetaMorfoziS, hm. to tell you the truth, I'm not sure what the problem is. Have you searched google for info on your dongle type ?
[07:48] <DutchR_PW> does anybody know a way to send keyboard events in python? I've written a lightweight driver for my soundcard remote and now I need a way to emulate keypresses.
[07:48] <Pretto> so CrippsFX, seems that i cant do it huh?
[07:49] <fyrestrtr> DutchR_PW: #python will know
[07:49] <DutchR_PW> thanks
[07:49] <mpech> wols: 10x
[07:49] <CrippsFX> Pretto, semms ... you could try running it from a terminal using the '&' char at the end to be a bg process ... then you should be able to catch its PID if/when it exits
[07:49] <mpech> tring
[07:49] <mpech> i will come back
[07:49] <DutchR_PW> then I have another question: If I finish this driver, how can I propose it for Ubuntu inclusion?
[07:50] <CrippsFX> Pretto, just because you don't get it the first time doesn't mean you can't do it ... just means it's more difficult than you thought :P
[07:50] <Pretto> ok.. CrippsFX, i will try, anyway, thanks for the help
[07:50] <CrippsFX> Pretto, you're welcome.
[07:50] <wols_> DutchR_PW: by packaging it as a .deb and becoming a Ubuntu dev
[07:51] <[BTF] Chm0d> does anyone have a preferrable media app they like?
[07:51] <wols_> !media
[07:51] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[07:51] <Soekisan> hi, how can i install the acer aspire 3000 modem on ubuntu?
[07:51] <[BTF] Chm0d> im goin to find out how to get the codecs and stuff and just wanted some input on the best player
[07:51] <phiqtion> how can i extract the files inside a TAR archive?
[07:51] <Soekisan> seem like the only thing missing.
[07:51] <fyrestrtr> !MOTU > DutchR_PW
[07:51] <CrippsFX> phiqtion, man tar
[07:51] <pty> [BTF] Chm0d: what media do you have in mind?  just music or something for everything?
[07:52] <UstasW> hey
[07:52] <silent_scream> hi! which x11 is ubuntu using? 3.x ? 4.x ?
[07:52] <jrib> phiqtion: double click on it
[07:52] <Thuryn> yo
[07:52] <ziro01> hello
[07:52] <Demon5> Hi
[07:52] <UstasW> out of interest
[07:52] <Thuryn> ok
[07:52] <Demon5> I'll find out
[07:52] <Lunar_Lamp> !x11
[07:52] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:52] <DutchR_PW> fyrestrtr: thanks
[07:52] <fyrestrtr> silent_scream: 7
[07:52] <wols_> silent_scream: X 7.0
[07:52] <[BTF] Chm0d> i would like to play divx files and mpg, dvd and others
[07:52] <phiqtion> jrib: i use emelfm file explorer, can i do this on the terminal?
[07:52] <wols_> silent_scream: no one uses XFree86 anymore
[07:52] <fyrestrtr> !codecs > [BTF] Chm0d
[07:52] <jrib> phiqtion: yes, tar xvf file.tar
[07:52] <pty> [BTF] Chm0d: I tend to use VLC for video and Quod Libet for music
[07:52] <Soekisan> yeah and xfree is a pain in the ass for some ati cards
[07:53] <k1piee> Hello
[07:53] <robert_> dpkg-deb: parse error, in file `php4-4.4.2/DEBIAN/control' near line 9: missing package name <-- wtf
[07:53] <excitatory> does anyone know where i could get a aotuv oggenc binary for ubuntu?  i can't find a working one anywhere, and i'm having much difficulty compiling one.  (i have a strong working knowledge of compilation, so it's most likely not the reason i can't compile)
[07:53] <phiqtion> jrib: what about the other files inside it? file.000 file.001, etc.?
[07:53] <silent_scream> so there isn't a XF86Config file ?
[07:53] <ziro01> don't know
[07:53] <[BTF] Chm0d> vlc available through the repositories
[07:53] <fyrestrtr> robert_: you get then when you do what?
[07:53] <CrippsFX> silent_scream, no, but there is an xorg.conf
[07:53] <robert_> fyrestrtr: trying to build php4-fcgi
[07:53] <wols_> silent_scream: no. and you should not edit the file by hand if there were one anyways
[07:53] <jrib> phiqtion: all files isnide file.tar will be extracted
[07:53] <fyrestrtr> robert_: ubuntu debs?
[07:54] <wols_> sudo dpkt-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:54] <lupine_85> wha?
[07:54] <phiqtion> okay
[07:54] <lupine_85> what's wrong with manually editing xorg.conf ?
[07:54] <robert_> fyrestrtr: from the deb source "package"
[07:54] <CrippsFX> wols_, what's wrong with editing xorg.conf by had?
[07:54] <d1zZy_> moin
[07:54] <hondje> If you know what your'e doing, it's way easier
[07:54] <d1zZy_> mal ne doofe frage ;)
[07:54] <CrippsFX> hondje, I concur
[07:55] <Onbir> Hey all. After some good customizing, my Ubuntu got kind of slow. Any way to clean up cashes and RAM and stuff? also.. I think I found a good color for the next Ubuntu release... Green (I'm banned at #ubuntu-offtopic :O)
[07:55] <Boson_> over 1000 ppl and there are not opers here?
[07:56] <hondje> Boson_: Freenode policy is for ops to remain unopped unless needed.
[07:56] <lupine_85> if you want ops, tel lthe bot to find them
[07:56] <robert_> fyrestrtr: so, anything? heh
[07:56] <Boson_> okz, :P
[07:57] <J-_> !nvidia
[07:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:57] <Boson_> hy ubuntu selected this server to open the "official channel" ?
[07:57] <Boson_> why ubuntu selected this server to open the "official channel" ?
[07:57] <Descention> does anyone know how i should go about installing nvidia drivers in ubuntu 6.06?
[07:57] <mpech> whre to read about /etc/network/interfaces ?
[07:57] <wols_> mpech: man interfaces
[07:57] <Liam> anyone know the name of that program that installs loads of programs for u automatic
[07:57] <Liam> ?
[07:57] <erUSUL> mpech: man interfaces to begin with
[07:57] <inlanderf> how do i install a gui on my server 6
[07:58] <mpech> 10x
[07:58] <b1_xt> what should i do to switch my codepage in telnet to koi8-r?
[07:58] <Boson_> is there any network expert? i need to post a question about anonymity on the net,
[07:58] <Onbir> Hey all. After some good customizing, my Ubuntu got kind of slow. Any way to clean up cashes and RAM and stuff? also.. I think I found a good color for the next Ubuntu release... Green (I'm banned at #ubuntu-offtopic :O)
[07:58] <DutchR_PW> Laim: EasyUbuntu and Automatix, but I heard they cause problems occasionally
[07:58] <CrippsFX> okay ... so my bcm4318 card is working through ndiswrapper (native driver is knackered right now), and I get results when I do "iwlist eth1 scanning" ... I try to connect to my ap using dhclient ("dhclient eth1") ... but, I don't get a lease ... it tries to get one on several intervals, and ends with "no working leases found" ... I KNOW there are more DHCP leases available on my router.
[07:58] <lupine_85> s/occasionally/frequent;y/
[07:59] <DutchR_PW> inlanderf: You can install webmin for a website administration page
[07:59] <rdz> CrippsFX, thanks for your hints. dualhead works already here, only when setting the 'option  "Xinerama"' i get messed up screen. without xinerama i cannot move the windows from one monitor to the other.
[07:59] <inlanderf> how do i install a gui on my server 6 from a ubuntu 6 cd
[07:59] <erUSUL> DutchR_PW: dapper does not have webmin
[07:59] <mpech> ubuntu 6.06 hangs
[07:59] <mpech> thinkpad X22
[07:59] <mpech> why ?
[07:59] <mpech> disable what? :)
[07:59] <erUSUL> inlanderf: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:59] <we2by> guys, how do I install firefox 2 beta??
[07:59] <davin> Hi guys, I have a USB Harddisk that currently holds 1 NTFS Partition, I want to format it as Fat32, how do I go about doing this? (im on the live cd)
[07:59] <Boson_> why ubuntu devolopers selected this server to open the "official channel" ?
[07:59] <hondje> 'hangs' is vauge mpech
[07:59] <DutchR_PW> d'oh.. I was confused with my debian server (system is too old to run ubuntu)
[08:00] <CrippsFX> rdz, hm ... I had no problems with moving windows between monitors ... but I'm using a laptop and an LCD panel ... I don't know if it makes a difference.
[08:00] <erUSUL> !enter > mpech
[08:00] <inlanderf> will that command install from my cd
[08:00] <davin> It's /dev/sdb/
[08:00] <rdz> CrippsFX, sorry, but i couldn't figure out how the 'aticommand' could help. ' aticonfig --initial dualhead -o xorg.examplefile ' just says:Found fglrx primary device section
[08:00] <rdz> Nothing to do, terminating.
[08:00] <rdz> 
[08:00] <we2by> guys, how do I install firefox 2 beta??
[08:00] <mpech> even caps lock doesn't work then
[08:00] <jeeves_Moss> all:  can some one help me with a small issues concerning my local?
[08:01] <erUSUL> !firefox
[08:01] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[08:01] <erUSUL> jeeves_Moss: ask away
[08:01] <rdz> CrippsFX, same situation here. i am also on a laptop and have an external lcd-monitor
[08:01] <Crazed> BLEH
[08:01] <kitche> davin: just do mk2fs.msdos /dev/sdb1 since /dev/sdb is the whole device you have to tell mke2fs the partition to format
[08:01] <Crazed> messed up shit
[08:01] <TuxthePenguin84> !ati
[08:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:01] <CrippsFX> rdz, I used "aticonfig --dtop=horizontal --overlay-on=1
[08:01] <inlanderf> erUSUL  will that command install from my cd
[08:01] <CrippsFX> brb.
[08:01] <rdz> CrippsFX, can you possibly pastebin me your xorg.conf?
[08:01] <rdz> CrippsFX, many thanks. i'll try
[08:02] <kitche> davin: but you can do man mke2fs to make sure I got the mke2fs part right
[08:02] <F_roZeN> I hate adobe, why not flash player for 64bits
[08:02] <jeeves_Moss> erUSUL:  ok, the error is as follows "perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:"
[08:02] <fredzer> hi
[08:02] <fredzer> is there a way to stream music from my network SMB server to my ubuntu ?
[08:02] <Onbir> Wow i love ubuntu now i really started using it!
[08:02] <Onbir> ^_^
[08:02] <davin> kitche: ok hang on
[08:02] <ma1> So, how ready is edgy?
[08:02] <lostboyz> hi i was wondering why my dvds no longer play they were playing before when i launched kaffeine but now they do not at all
[08:03] <wols_> fredzer: why stream? just mount the network share
[08:03] <jeeves_Moss> mal:  ask the guys in #ubuntu+1
[08:03] <lostboyz> it says cannot open /dev/dvd
[08:03] <fredzer> hm..
[08:03] <fredzer> ill try it
[08:03] <lostboyz> and also cannot find plugin
[08:03] <jeeves_Moss> erUSUL: any ideas?
[08:03] <wols_> lostboyz: /dev/dvd should point to your dvd drive
[08:03] <Onbir> Hey. How to get unbanned in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[08:03] <lostboyz> wols_ yes i know
[08:04] <erUSUL> jeeves_Moss: perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: anything more??
[08:04] <erUSUL> !locales > jeeves_Moss
[08:04] <wols_> lostboyz: lsof |grep /dev/dvd to see what uses it
[08:04] <lostboyz> doesn't say anything
[08:04] <lostboyz> wols_
[08:04] <Onbir> Because.. I was banned some time ago, at #ubuntu-offtopic :P. It was because of a strange reason I don't remember, but... it wasn't that bad. Any ops who are here right now.. Can you consider unbanning me in #ubuntu-offtopic? Thanks.
[08:05] <davin> kitche: doesnt work :/
[08:05] <wols_> then check the /dev/hd* one
[08:05] <davin> Anybody know the mke2fs syntax for fat32?
[08:05] <lostboyz> i started the computer with the dvd inside would that do something?
[08:05] <jeeves_Moss> erUSUL:  join #jeeves and we'll talk
[08:05] <lostboyz> grep: /dev/hdd: Input/output error
[08:05] <lostboyz> the dvd drive started
[08:05] <lostboyz> but did not run
[08:06] <rdz> CrippsFX, i used the xorg.conf-file from the command you posted. it seems that i have dualscreen now, but i cannot move the mouse outside the first screen.
[08:06] <rdz> CrippsFX, your second monitor is on the right, right?
[08:06] <kitche> davin: ok it's mkdosfs
[08:06] <davin> kitche: yes I just read here mke2fs is for ext2/3
[08:06] <lostboyz> wols_
[08:06] <jeeves_Moss> erUSUL:  did you join #jeeves?
[08:06] <lostboyz> did you see that
[08:06] <rdz> CrippsFX, also the background of the second screen has a different color than the first one
[08:07] <wols_> lostboyz: yes. I guess it's the codec then
[08:07] <davin> kitche: working now, thanks alot!!
[08:07] <lostboyz> oh
[08:07] <lostboyz> but how is it
[08:07] <wols_> !dvd
[08:07] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:07] <kitche> davin: I couldn't remember the command sicne I don't do vfat formating very often but it's always good to look it up
[08:07] <lostboyz> that it works one day and the next it don't work anymore
[08:07] <carles> Hi all
[08:07] <carles> can someone helpme?
[08:08] <wols_> lostboyz: dying DVD ROM then
[08:08] <carles> i have problems with my wireless
[08:08] <erUSUL> !wifi
[08:08] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:08] <wols_> lostboyz: the I/O error would fit that problem
[08:08] <davin> kitche: yes im switching to linux but im backing up my music so first I have to make my usb hdd f32
[08:09] <davin> vfat = fat32?
[08:09] <wols_> more or less
[08:09] <kitche> davin: I understand, by the way vfat is fat pretty much
[08:09] <davin> okay, gonna boot in windows now and back up, thanks everyone!
[08:09] <lostboyz> ok
[08:09] <lostboyz> wols_ what is that exactly?
[08:09] <rdz> !xinerama
[08:09] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[08:09] <wols_> lostboyz: what "that"
[08:10] <lostboyz> dying dvd rom and i/o error
[08:10] <lostboyz> what do you mean
[08:10] <lostboyz> i am not good too much with tinkering
[08:10] <wols_> lostboyz: your DVD ROM is almost broken. dead. kaput
[08:10] <lostboyz> oh
[08:10] <lostboyz> i see
[08:10] <nahoj> when I start the computer in "rescue mode" I end up in console logged in as root. Is this not a security risc?
[08:10] <Crazed> zzz
[08:10] <Crazed> hate ubuntu whine shit :@
[08:11] <jrib> nahoj: no, anyone with physical access can easily get root access
[08:11] <erUSUL> !locales > jeeves_Moss
[08:11] <wols_> nahoj: "physical access trumps anything"
[08:11] <wols_> so not it's not
[08:11] <kitche> nahoj: rescue mode will put you in as root
[08:11] <Soekisan> put it in a server bunker
[08:11] <lampshade> yeah basically any live cd will let you get in as root
[08:11] <nahoj> well, It should be kind of safe if I put a password on BIOS instead?
[08:12] <wols_> nahoj: you are kidding, right?
[08:12] <DutchR_PW> no
[08:12] <Juhaz> not really, they could just snatch the hard drive
[08:12] <jrib> nahoj: you can set a root password if you are really bothered by it
[08:12] <Soekisan> lol
[08:12] <whyme> does anyone know what the app is that ubuntu uses to translate the acpi events from laptop function keys to 'real' key presses?
[08:12] <lampshade> I don't see why people bother with that though, it seems like such a given you know?  Like if you have access to top secret papers, same problem.  It just seems so defacto standard that I don't understand why people even talk about it lol
[08:12] <Soekisan> its not so hard to reset the bios anyways
[08:12] <DutchR_PW> If you have something you want to keep secret, you should encrypt it
[08:13] <DutchR_PW> that's the only way it's safe
[08:13] <kitche> not hard to find out the bios master password either
[08:13] <lupine_85> computers aren't safe, period
[08:13] <TuxthePenguin84> or reset the bios password
[08:13] <lupine_85> if you want safety, get an underground bunker
[08:13] <TheGateKeeper> lol
[08:13] <nahoj> kitche, well, no but I guess it would be safe enough for my non-hacker-flat-mates?
[08:14] <lupine_85> nahoj: if my idiot stoned brother can work it out, your stoned flat mates can ;)
[08:14] <nahoj> just don't wan't them touching my laptop... :P
[08:14] <zmutte> why not encrypt your harddrive?
[08:14] <jrib> he could put the laptop ina  safe
[08:14] <Crazed> pffffffffff
[08:14] <lupine_85> slows down teh pr0nz!!!
[08:14] <zmutte> :>
[08:14] <Crazed> annoying .dmrc permission crap error!!!
[08:14] <zmutte> lupine_85: he just have to wank slower then
[08:14] <zmutte> :>
[08:15] <lupine_85> lol
[08:15] <lupine_85> but then his mum might catch him...
[08:15] <kitche> Crazed: that's an easy fix really
[08:15] <lupine_85> sorry nahoj, couldn't resist
[08:15] <Crazed> yea right set owner permissions right ?
[08:15] <Crazed> or change gdm.conf
[08:15] <Crazed> NONE working
[08:15] <lupine_85> take the laptop with you?
[08:15] <kitche> Crazed: yep well what's the settings on right now think it should be 644 or so
[08:16] <nahoj> zmutte, It's not really like I have something secret or so, It's just that I don't want them to be able to log in to it and use it when I am not there...
[08:16] <Crazed> yes BUT NOT working
[08:16] <nahoj> so encryption sounds like overkill
[08:16] <lupine_85> 644 = rw-r-r IIRC
[08:16] <lupine_85> nahoj: you can set a grub password
[08:16] <lupine_85> might be enough
[08:16] <jrib> nahoj: set the bios password, unless you think they would open up your computer to reset it
[08:16] <lanjelot> hi all! what's the command to create an empty file giving it proper ownerships and permissions ?
[08:16] <TheGateKeeper> nahoj: do they use windows or linux?
[08:16] <lupine_85> touch
[08:17] <jrib> lanjelot: define "proper"
[08:17] <lupine_85> as in touch/home/me/stuff
[08:17] <Crazed> kitche: that is not working ..
[08:17] <Crazed> already tried that ..
[08:17] <nahoj> linux... , TheGateKeeper
[08:17] <rockzman> Can someone help me to setup a local nameserver? (resolv.conf)
[08:17] <wols_> nahoj: encryption then
[08:17] <meryam> begc245@hotmail.com
[08:17] <wols_>  / AND swap
[08:17] <lanjelot> jrib: i'm sorry ?
[08:18] <kitche> rockzman: do you mean a server or just set settings in resolv.conf
[08:18] <lupine_85> rockzman: as in set up a DNS nameserver on your PC?
[08:18] <lanjelot> lupine_85: you can't set mode using touch
[08:18] <lupine_85> apt-get install bind9 works
[08:18] <lupine_85> !bind9
[08:18] <ubotu> bind9: Internet Domain Name Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:9.3.2-2ubuntu1.1 (dapper), package size 282 kB, installed size 700 kB
[08:18] <wols_> rockzman: do you mean you want to run your own nameserver or set up resolv.conf properly?
[08:18] <Crazed> it's also whining about dcop server error
[08:18] <jrib> lanjelot: what do you mean by "proper permissions and ownership"?
[08:18] <Dethklok> Is it possable to login using XDMCP over the internet?
[08:18] <lupine_85> acts as a caching nameserver
[08:18] <TheGateKeeper> nahoj: I guess then you will probable have to encrypt as they may know how chroot
[08:18] <lupine_85> ...by default
[08:18] <kyja> cool !! I am remastering my own custom build of ubuntu =] 
[08:19] <lostboyz_> hi i was wondering if there is a way to make a seperate partition your home when you are installing ubuntu
[08:19] <rockzman> wols_ both, i cant run a localnameserver without running resolv.conf properly
[08:19] <lupine_85> lostboyz_: yep
[08:19] <lupine_85> choose option 3
[08:19] <nahoj> hmm.. sounds like a bios-password will have to do until I have learned some more about encryption, thx
[08:19] <Dethklok> lostboyz: you can manually edit the partitions
[08:19] <lostboyz_> oh
[08:19] <lostboyz_> yes i went through about hour and a half
[08:19] <lupine_85> rockzman: install bind9 then add "nameserver 127.0.0.1" to resolv.conf
[08:19] <lupine_85> et voila!
[08:19] <lostboyz_> of tinkering with my friend dooglus
[08:20] <lostboyz_> but i think i saved some of the config files still from suse
[08:20] <Crazed> well kitche it was that easy you said .. any other solutions ?
[08:20] <wols_> rockzman: not strictly true. dnsmasq and /etc/hosts. no resolv.conf entry needed
[08:20] <lostboyz_> because now my fstab is screwed up and my desktop is similar to suse desktop was
[08:20] <lupine_85> bah, dnsmasq--
[08:20] <lostboyz_> lupine_85 would you be able to help?
[08:20] <Dethklok> anyone know what port XCMCP uses?
[08:21] <wols_> lupine_85: anything wrong with dnsmasq?
[08:21] <lanjelot> jrib: i just want to touch a file with ownership 'mldonkey' and mode '660' is there a way to do this with only one command
[08:21] <rdz> CrippsFX, if you are still here: can you post me somewhere your xorg.conf? i cannot manage to create or find one, that works here.....
[08:21] <silent_scream> how do i unrar a file that is separeted in many .rar pieces
[08:21] <wols_> lanjelot: write a script
[08:21] <Astray> Is it possible to search with apt via terminal?
[08:21] <J-_> how cna i find out what kernel i have?
[08:21] <lupine_85> lostboyz_: just move out everything in /home and add an fstab entry to turn it into a mountpoint, if you already have a partition
[08:21] <rockzman> lupine_85 ok thanks
[08:21] <Seveas> silent_scream, unrar x first_filename_of_set_hete
[08:21] <wols_> Astray: apt-cache search
[08:21] <Seveas> here*
[08:21] <kitche> silent_scream: unrar one file it should do the others
[08:21] <wols_> J-_: uname -a
[08:21] <DutchR_PW> lanjelot: touch file && chown mldonkey file && chmod 660 file
[08:22] <jrib> lanjelot: not really, just do: touch foo && chmod 660 foo && chown mldonkey foo
[08:22] <DutchR_PW> you might have to add sudo's
[08:22] <J-_> thanks wols_
[08:22] <Astray> wols_, Thanks.
[08:22] <lupine_85> wols_: for a caching nameserver, it's overpowered. If you want to run your own domains, it's not got enough features
[08:22] <lostboyz_> lupine_85 yeah i did that already
[08:22] <rdz> Astray, 'apt-cache search somename'
[08:22] <lupine_85> then you've got what you asked for
[08:22] <rstanca> hello, i have a small ubuntu dapper server install, my problem is with midnight commanger wich looks ugly, UTF problem, any tips on how can i fix that?
[08:22] <wols_> lupine_85: and bind9 is not overpowered for a caching domainserver?
[08:22] <wols_> lupine_85: and for local DNS only, dnsmasq is fine
[08:22] <lupine_85> wols_: maybe a bit ;)
[08:22] <lupine_85> but I prefer bind
[08:23] <lostboyz_> when i put a disc in my dvdrecorder
[08:23] <Crazed> lol kitche now ignoring my question ? :)
[08:23] <lostboyz_> the system hangs
[08:23] <lostboyz_> and there is no entry in fstab
[08:23] <lanjelot> thx jrib DutchR_PW wols_ i just thought i could do it using install(1)
[08:23] <wols_> bind is one of the 3 Evils: bind, wu-ftpd and sendmail :)
[08:23] <lostboyz_> is there a howto on fstab somewhere?
[08:23] <botxj> welcome to the Battlestar Galactia Linux Forum
[08:23] <TheGateKeeper> J-_: cat /proc/version
[08:23] <POVaddct> lostboyz_: man 5 fstab
[08:23] <wols_> lostboyz_: man fstab
[08:23] <lupine_85> snap ;)
[08:23] <kitche> Crazed what question it probably has to do with permissions some fiels have to be setup to 600 others have to be set to 0644 others have to be some other permission
[08:24] <lostboyz_> what do you call a fly flying around in a blondes head?
[08:24] <lostboyz_> Space Invader
[08:24] <rockzman> wols_ dnsmasq would work fine for me ? i just want to put my own machine as dns for another
[08:24] <Crazed> well like I said I told gdm not to check for permissions
[08:24] <Crazed> all permissions are allowed
[08:24] <Crazed> still not working
[08:24] <Seveas> lostboyz_, please stay on topic here
[08:24] <silent_scream> what is the command to unrar the first Seveas
[08:24] <silent_scream> ?
[08:24] <lostboyz_> oh sure
[08:24] <Seveas> silent_scream, unrar x filename_here
[08:25] <kitche> Crazed: what si the file name again?
[08:25] <lupine_85> rockzman: if you want to serve domains, bind is definitely your best bet
[08:25] <Crazed> .dmrc
[08:25] <Crazed> I already found something on ubuntu forums
[08:25] <wols_> rockzman: yes imho
[08:25] <Crazed> but everything I try doesnt work
[08:25] <rockzman> lupine_85 nah i just want to make my server ip as dns for my clients
[08:25] <wols_> rockzman: it's also a dhcp server if you want it to be
[08:25] <kitche> Crazed: ok you can cp .dmrc .dmrc.bak then delete .dnrc tos ee if it will work then
[08:25] <lupine_85> ah, ok
[08:25] <lupine_85> ignore me then ;)
[08:26] <lupine_85> either will do what you want
[08:26] <Crazed> will try that later ..
[08:26] <Crazed> don't got time now ;)
[08:26] <rockzman> lupine_85 hehe so i hear the wols
[08:26] <rockzman> :P
[08:26] <Seveas> Crazed, if many things complain about permissions, you probably made your homedirworld writable oslt
[08:26] <silent_scream> seveas thanks
[08:26] <Crazed> didnt change anything like that Seveas ..
[08:28] <wols_> lanjelot: install only copies. it doesn't create a file
[08:28] <A-L-P-H-A> how does one get library packages?  I'm missing 4 to compile xchat-gnome 0.13.  "libglade-2.0" "gnome-vfs-2.0" "libgnomeui-2.0" and "gconf-2.0".
[08:28] <Onbir> How to get deskbar with beagle support?
[08:28] <wols_> apt-get build-dep
[08:28] <wols_> aLPHa_LeaK: : apt-get build-dep
[08:28] <A-L-P-H-A> wols_: thanks
[08:28] <Seveas> A-L-P-H-A, you need the -dev packages of those libraries, /msg ubotu compiling
[08:28] <wols_> aLPHa_LeaK: and to compile you usually need the dev packages
[08:29] <aLPHa_LeaK> wols_: stop highlighting me please, thank you.
[08:29] <rstanca> hello, i have a small ubuntu dapper server install, my problem is with midnight commanger wich looks ugly, UTF problem, any tips on how can i fix that? also how can i add more locales, i only have en_US.UTF-8
[08:29] <Caplain> when i go to play a dvd it plays the mgm intro and then errors out saying the source cannot be read
[08:29] <wols_> !locales > rstanca
[08:30] <rockzman> wols_ Starting DNS forwarder and DHCP server: dnsmasqdnsmasq: failed to bind listening socket: Address already in use
[08:30] <rockzman>  (failed).
[08:30] <wols_> !dvd > caplain
[08:30] <wols_> rockzman: you already run a dns server
[08:30] <rockzman> wols_ well why ppl dont resolv addresses using my server ip as dns then
[08:30] <wols_> and port 53/udp is already in use
[08:30] <wols_> rockzman: misconfig perhaps?
[08:30] <rockzman> wols_
[08:30] <walkover> hey im trying to install xgl and it seems that gdm is not able to launch my xgl startup script. I have chmod +x 'ed on it and even chmod 777 to be sure. Does anyone know what is going on?
[08:30] <wols_> rockzman: look what's running
[08:31] <rockzman> a min
[08:31] <rockzman> yea
[08:31] <walkover> by the way i have checked my path and it is absolutely correct
[08:31] <erUSUL> walkover: #ubunt-glx may be of more help
[08:31] <walkover> thanks
[08:31] <J-_> I just tried to install my graphics driver bu following the tutorial(!nvidia) how that x  won't start up, I don't know what to do
[08:32] <antares79> hi everyone
[08:32] <antares79> what's with lilo?
[08:32] <rdemanow> !samba
[08:32] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:33] <wols_> antares79: lilo the person is dead. traffic hit and run
[08:33] <antares79> oh :-(
[08:33] <DutchR_PW> I have to go, so bye everyone
[08:33] <antares79> bye
[08:33] <lostboyz_> what is a good book to get started learing ubuntu and how to use it?
[08:34] <Astray> lostboyz_, Best Ubuntu book ever, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[08:34] <sofus> heeh
[08:34] <wols_> lostboyz_: I wouldn't get a distro specific book. waste of time and money. instead learn the general linux ways
[08:35] <antares79> lostboyz: it's not about ubuntu, but i'm pretty fond of the "The Debian system - concepts and techniques"
[08:35] <Descention> hello, i am having problems enabling nvidia drivers on ubuntu 6.06
[08:36] <antares79> this is the homepage: http://debiansystem.info/
[08:36] <Boson_> drivers allways the same problem, on windows its just doble click, and restar the computer.
[08:36] <Descention> if i edit the xorg.conf device driver setting from "nv" to "nvidia" i get an error loading X11
[08:36] <lostboyz_> anyone know how to open a .chm document?
[08:37] <swim> hello
[08:37] <antares79> descention: what's the error message?
[08:37] <[A] ndy80> Hi
[08:37] <swim> I cannot get my floppy drive to be read.
[08:37] <swim> Could anyone help?
[08:37] <Descention> something about it not being able to load nvidia-glx
[08:37] <[A] ndy80> I got a problem with my gnome session: windows decoration disappeared :( Ho can I restore them? I try ti execute gnome-window-decorator but no success...
[08:37] <antares79> is nvidia-glx installed?
[08:38] <Descention> yes
[08:38] <Boson_> lets say i connecto thru a external Open AP with spoofed mac, and i made an attack, the attack takes about 30 min, but they will not notice the attake after days... the question: Can i be caught? if reponse is YES, tell how. thnks
[08:38] <infinito> does anyone here know how to change the gnome-keyring password??
[08:38] <stadtfilter> any clue where to look if mount claims that a partiton is mounted when I try to mount it, but it does not show where it is mounted?
[08:38] <aeroSoul> [A] ndy80: try running "metacity"
[08:39] <antares79> descention: can you paste the error message anywhere? there's a link to a pastebin in the topic
[08:39] <aeroSoul> in a shell or something
[08:39] <variant> stadtfilter: type mount on its own, it will tell you what is mounted where
[08:39] <[A] ndy80> aeroSoul: cool! that fixed my problem! I hope the session will be saved :)
[08:39] <stadtfilter> variant, that's the joke, it does not show hda3
[08:40] <variant> stadtfilter: cat /etc/mtab
[08:40] <Descention> would the error be in any log?
[08:40] <antares79> stadtfilter: run 'cat /proc/mounts'
[08:40] <wols_> Boson_: is this open AP near your flat?
[08:40] <J-_> I just tried to install my graphics driver using ubuntu's tutorial, now x11  won't start up, I don't know what to do. any help would be appreciative.
[08:40] <antares79> descention: /var/log/X.org.0.log probably
[08:40] <Boson_> [wols_]  no, not near,
[08:40] <antares79> or something along those lines anyway ;-)
[08:40] <wols_> J-_: look in your X.logs in /var/log/
[08:41] <stadtfilter> variant, antares79, both nope. Maybe this does matte, I also do run a raid1 with mdadm and I ant to add hda3 to the raid but it fails, but imho this should not matter?
[08:42] <antares79> ah... is it a swap partition, maybe? what does swapon -s show?
[08:42] <chillmod1> hi everyone.. someone who know how to insert a theme folder into the usr/shere/them foldedr?
[08:42] <antares79> that's what I ran into... took me ages ;-)
[08:42] <chillmod1> it says that i dont have promision
[08:42] <antares79> oh, right... run 'sudo swapon -s'
[08:43] <stadtfilter> antares, nah, it's ext3, hda/hdb5 are the swaps
[08:43] <kitche> chillmod1: sudo cp -r <theme folder> /usr/share/theme
[08:43] <J-_> wols_: i cd /var/log/ now what do i do to look at the logs
[08:43] <chillmod1> thanx u are the best
[08:43] <wols_> J-_: less Xorg.log
[08:43] <wols_> J-_: or just the newest Xorg log
[08:45] <rockzman> wols_ ** server can't find uol.com.br: REFUSED
[08:45] <J-_> wols_: what do i input to see the log? i cd's to teh folder, i don't know what to do next.
[08:45] <Luxurious> Hiya.  I need to inventory my system, see information about all my hardware.  How do I do that from the command line?
[08:45] <J-_> cd'd*
[08:45] <antares79> stadtfilter: so I got it right, you're trying to add a partition to a raid 1, but you can't because it says it's already mounted?
[08:46] <DigitalNinja> Is there an easy way to do software RAID?
[08:46] <rockzman> wols_ even installing dnsmasq i cant resolve address
[08:46] <stadtfilter> antares79, well, mdadm says something else (can not claim bd_claim hda3), for testing I tried to mount hda3 somewhere and the it says it is already mounted
[08:46] <antares79> ah, alright...
[08:46] <antares79> how did you setup the other raid sets?
[08:47] <DigitalNinja> Are we all doing RAID today?
[08:47] <antares79> at least i do, digitalninja
[08:48] <DigitalNinja> nice
[08:48] <stadtfilter> antares79, mh what of info would you like? I got a /boot, which are both now on md0. hdb3 is now in md1, now also hda3 should go there
[08:48] <stadtfilter> boot is on hda/hdb1
[08:48] <J-_> Now i know why i didn't install the nvidia driver a while ago. Can't seem to get x11 to work, and when i ask for help. Do i get it, no. How can Ubuntu be successful if the support isn't there?
[08:48] <DigitalNinja> Will the Ubuntu installer let you do software RAID?
[08:49] <swim> I cannot get my floppy drive to be read.
[08:49] <swim> Could anyone help?
[08:49] <wols_> rockzman: what dns server do your clients use?
[08:49] <hummigbird1> Hello
[08:49] <antares79> hmm... stadtfilter: i can't say for sure, but i've had some problems with evms doing funny stuff... can you disable it, reboot and try again?
[08:49] <hummigbird1> Can anyone give me a helping hand with installing Ubuntu/Kubuntu ?
[08:49] <wols_> rockzman: and what is in your /etc/resolv.conf? (your ISPs DNS server?)
[08:49] <antares79> digitalninja: the alternate cd installer will let you do it
[08:50] <krups> hummingbird1: what do you need?  should just be pop cd in and go.
[08:50] <hummigbird1> I would like to install it on a Biblo b142 Subnotebook
[08:50] <DigitalNinja> antares79: I tried that once and it didn't work
[08:50] <hummigbird1> It can not boot from CD
[08:50] <hummigbird1> It only has a Floppy and an external USB CD
[08:50] <krups> can't boot from external cd?
[08:51] <hummigbird1> nope
[08:51] <xMorphix> Hey all
[08:51] <krups> positive?
[08:51] <Descention> my nvidia log is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24898
[08:51] <kitchen> How does storage work on ubuntu? fstab doesn't seem to contain anything. I've just changed HDDs and can't figure how to change all the HDD paths...
[08:51] <Lunar_Lamp> a while back i changed themes in kcontrol, despite running gnome, now i can't get amarok to stop looking so ugly.  The colours for the list have taken on the theme, and i can't find whatever the default theme was in kcontrol :-s
[08:51] <hummigbird1> Absolutely positive
[08:51] <antares79> well, you really need to know what you're doing, when you set that up, digitalninja...
[08:51] <stadtfilter> antares, mh, no evms running here
[08:51] <Descention> er, X11 log
[08:51] <DigitalNinja> antares79: Well, I can do it on centOS
[08:51] <stadtfilter> damn so strange
[08:52] <antares79> stadtfilter, it's usually started at boot, but no processes show up
[08:52] <antares79> descention: i'll take a look
[08:52] <DigitalNinja> antares79: I ran into some documentation that said the debian installer couldn't do software raid. There is a way to do it but I don't remember what that is
[08:52] <Descention> antares79: thank you
[08:52] <stadtfilter> antares79, okay... just had another idea but lost it again, too much people running arround and asking stuff, need some meditation...
[08:53] <antares79> ;-) stadtfilter
[08:53] <krups> hummingbird1: you setup the bios to try usb first?
[08:53] <hummigbird1> Yes
[08:53] <antares79> descention: alright, it says it can't load the kernel module. do you have the linux-restricted-modules package installed?
[08:53] <hummigbird1> There is no Option in the BIOS
[08:53] <hummigbird1> Its a very old Subenotebook
[08:54] <Yaakov> kitchen!
[08:54] <Lunar_Lamp> how do i reduce the font size of text in the playlist in amarok?
[08:54] <krups> hummingbird1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[08:55] <Descention> antares79: i dont know... if it's the "nvidia-kernel-common" then yes, but otherwise no
[08:55] <Yaakov> kitchen: My fstab is full of pathy goodness.
[08:55] <_Sasu> hi all :) i have this strange problem: i installed xgl and after the reboot i can't change my refresh rate...i really need to change it otherwise i can't see all my desktop :(
[08:55] <Descention> wait, yes
[08:55] <kitchen> Yaakoov: strange, mine only has 2 lines. perhaps it gets populated on boot ?
[08:55] <whatsreal> xMorphix:
[08:55] <Yaakov> kitchen: So it would seem...
[08:55] <eugman> I need to run a occasianally cpu intesive program without it being able to lock up the computer.
[08:56] <hummigbird1> Hmmm ... I have used a SmartBootManager
[08:56] <Descention> antares79: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386
[08:56] <mpech> i did it
[08:56] <hummigbird1> But I will try the latest one to make sure#
[08:56] <kitchen> Yaakov: Any idea what I have to change to get it to populate differently?
[08:56] <Yaakov> kitchen: I am very new to *ubuntu, so sadly no.
[08:56] <_Sasu> anyone? :P
[08:57] <antares79> thanks, descention... is there anything about the nvidia module in the output of 'dmesg'?
[08:57] <kitchen> Yaakov: ok, thx, anyone else any ideas how fstab gets populated on boot?
[08:57] <aeroSoul> eugman: try cpulimit
[08:57] <kinection> Hello, I'm having a problem with my xorg, it's saying that ati and radeon drivers are not found... but sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-ati is "newest version"
[08:57] <kinection> what's going on?
[08:57] <kinection> i can't get into my X server right now
[08:58] <eugman> AeroSoul, ok I'll give it a look. Do you know what changing the nice level would do?
[08:58] <thenetduck> I can't write or make forlders on my internal hard drive... how can I make it able to let me write stuff on my hard drive??
[08:58] <Descention> antares79: in my xorg.conf file? no
[08:58] <Yaakov> kitchen: You know, I went with the default partitioning.  Perhaps you have to rebuild fstab after the device is gone.
[08:58] <krups> hummingbird1: only other option that comes to mind is you can take the laptop hd out and put it in another machine with a hd and install there.  might need appropriate cable to plugin the hd though.
[08:58] <antares79> descention: no, try running "dmesg" in a console window
[08:58] <Yaakov> kitchen: That is, it could have made this for me.
[08:58] <Descention> ok
[08:58] <Yaakov> kitchen: And by rebuild, I mean edit it yourself.
[08:58] <t0taln00b> is ur hard drive ntfs?
[08:58] <hummigbird1> @Krups: The CD Drive does not appear :(
[08:59] <aeroSoul> eugman: nice could help, too
[08:59] <Justy-> Hello all!
[08:59] <aeroSoul> eugman: with cpulimit you can limit how much % of cpu a prog/pid may use
[08:59] <botxj> HEY! EXCUSE ME HERE! I"M TALKING TO YOUZ GUYZ, are the compiz directories fixed now?
[08:59] <ladydoor> !caps
[08:59] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:59] <kitchen> Yaakov: I don't have a problem with manually editing, but there's obviously something else adding to it on boot; need to know what that is..
[08:59] <botxj> no y'all cant read lower case
[08:59] <eugman> AeroSoul, man and synaptic don't seem to know of cpulimit. Is that the exact name?
[09:00] <ladydoor> botxj: then it's hopeless--we're just to stupid to help. 'bye
[09:00] <eugman> or is that a change made by adifferent program?
[09:00] <aeroSoul> hmm i wonder where i got it from.. forgot... seems to be missing in dapper
[09:00] <hummigbird1> Anyone knows how I can make SmartBootManager recognise my external USB CD Drive ?
[09:00] <Yaakov> ladydoor: You seem very helpy... do you have a clue about kitchen's fstab issue?
[09:00] <_hyperion> hi! I use gnuchess but it eats all of my CPU. Is there any way to solve this?
[09:00] <Descention> antares79: it's too long for me to read everything it spits out
[09:00] <TheGateKeeper> Yaakov: kitchen fstab gets created when you first install the software, from that point it will only change if you change it
[09:00] <botxj> are the compiz directories fixed now?
[09:01] <swim> please
[09:01] <wols_> _hyperion: man renice
[09:01] <swim> I cannot get my floppy drive to be read.
[09:01] <swim> Could anyone help?
[09:01] <antares79> descention: it will probably be at the end of it all anyway... maximize your console window
[09:01] <_hyperion> -wols_-, what's renice?
[09:01] <wols_> swim: are you mounting the floppy?
[09:01] <ladydoor> kitchen: so wait...does your fstab keep growing, or is the problem that it's only got the two lines?
[09:01] <aeroSoul> eugman: http://marlon80.interfree.it/cpulimit/ download and compile... it wont do any damage...
[09:01] <wols_> _hyperion: man renice
[09:01] <alpha-lappy> anyone know why when i go 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop' it would pop into a terminal, and stop at "Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) [ok] " and just stop?
[09:01] <ladydoor> Yaakov: i'll do my best
[09:01] <thenetduck> can somone help me be able to access my internal slave driver????
[09:01] <Yaakov> ladydoor: Who could ask more?
[09:01] <aeroSoul> eugman: compile and copy the cpulimit file to /usr/bin or something...
[09:02] <swim> wols_: no because it is not in fstab
[09:02] <mpech> why geeting window coredumps in boot
[09:02] <kitchen> TheGateKeeper: I switched HDDs, so I rebooted into the live environment, copied my system accross in its entirety (including fstab), went to modify fstab, assuming I would need to adjust paths etc. due to the new HDD layout, but found it only had a couple of lines in it...
[09:02] <whatsreal> swim: you can only access hardware as root this may be key
[09:02] <mpech> 6.06
[09:02] <Yaakov> ladydoor: On second thought... this _is_ IRC.
[09:02] <eugman> aeroSoul, Wouldn't make install be a more intelligent way of doing that?
[09:02] <siXy> does anyone here know why fgl_glxgears and glxgears hangs kubuntu 6.06?
[09:02] <ladydoor> Yaakov: lol
[09:02] <wols_> swim: you can mount it without that via sudo
[09:02] <wols_> siXy: shitty ati drivers? (just a guess...)
[09:02] <aeroSoul> eugman: maybe... i didn't try =)
[09:02] <ladydoor> kitchen: ok, so did you do partitioning in the live environment? if you did, did you specify the locations of your old partitions?
[09:02] <aeroSoul> only copied that one file
[09:02] <siXy> clean install literally all ive done is installed the fglrx kernel module
[09:03] <J-_> how can i reconfigure x11?
[09:03] <Yaakov> ladydoor: For the record, kitchen is a largely clueful individual.
[09:03] <swim> wols_: i also do not have an fd0 in /dev/
[09:03] <habeeb> Hello, I'm having some "kewl" problems. First of all, after some fucking up with resolutions and fglrx, when I now get to the login screen, the (main) screen turns off and I get an error message from the monitor. Something like "Not in sync" or something. When I type my username/pass (blindly) I get to GNOME alright.
[09:03] <sivik> how deo i fix "Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library"?
[09:03] <wols_> J-_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-corg
[09:03] <Descention> antares79: i dont see anything with nvidia... the closest thing is "ACPI: Video Device [NVD]  (multi-head: yes  rom: no  post: no)"
[09:03] <wols_> habeeb: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-corg
[09:03] <xMorphix> habeeb: Did you swear at the computer, because that helps sometimes
[09:03] <ladydoor> Yaakov: i figured, from the way kitchen was working questions--they seemed more not as rude and demanding as a clueless person would be, luckily :-)
[09:03] <eugman> wols, who do I ask to have that answer added to ubotu?
[09:04] <habeeb> xMorphix: It did nothing. Absolutely nothing.
[09:04] <wols_> swim: dmesg|less and look for the floppy
[09:04] <[GuS] > Guys, there is a app or plugin for firefox to block porn sites?
[09:04] <antares79> descention: what about "dmesg | grep -i nvidia"?
[09:04] <aeroSoul> [GuS] : you could use dansguardian (proxy)
[09:04] <swim> wols_: dmesg|grep floppy did not return a floppy
[09:04] <sivik> [GuS] , are you using some sort of router?
[09:04] <habeeb> wols_: did that :) Tried multiple resolutions. Cant get the 1680x1050 to work with fglrx, tho.
[09:04] <[GuS] > other thing than a proxy?
[09:04] <TheGateKeeper> kitchen: hmmm
[09:04] <[GuS] > yes sivik
[09:04] <botxj> are the compiz directories fixed now?
[09:04] <wols_> swim: try fd. or look how the linux floppy modula is named
[09:05] <Descention> antares79: nothing
[09:05] <sivik> [GuS] , what kind?
[09:05] <xMorphix> GuS: Why block porn sites?
[09:05] <ladydoor> !compiz
[09:05] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:05] <kitchen> ladydoor: I used fdisk to do all the partitioning. where would I have specified locations of old partitions? I simply mounted them on temp mount points to copy stuff accross to the new HDD
[09:05] <ladydoor> botxj: ^^^
[09:05] <thenetduck> can somone help me be able to write documents to my internal slave drive?
[09:05] <J-_> wols_: it says xserver-corg is not installed
[09:05] <kitchen> ladydoor: then I modified grub, which also worked fine.
[09:05] <botxj> i hate the repositories
[09:05] <sivik> [GuS] , if its a linksys, you can log in and block certain words or phrases to not be able to get threw
[09:05] <[GuS] > sivik, adsl/router
[09:05] <swim> wols_ i've tried /dev/fd to no avail, dont know what else to try
[09:05] <sivik> botxj, what don't you like about it?
[09:05] <botxj> that they dont work
[09:05] <sivik> [GuS] , linksys?
[09:06] <thenetduck> anyone?
[09:06] <[GuS] > nope, Arescom
[09:06] <sivik> botxj: are you using the us.archive.ubuntu.com stuff
[09:06] <ladydoor> kitchen: yeah, that makes sense. huh. does this happen again if you edit them and then reboot?
[09:06] <botxj> now i'll have to reinstall to 32bit ubuntu and install using the deb packages
[09:06] <sivik> [GuS] , i would look into the router to see if you can block that stuff
[09:06] <wols_> Descention: lsmod. check for nvidia
[09:06] <botxj> sivik i dunno
[09:06] <antares79> descention: is there an nvidia-related file in /lib/modules/*/volatile at all?
[09:06] <[GuS] > <xMorphix> GuS: Why block porn sites? ---< silly question does it? ....
[09:06] <kitchen> ladydoor: it boots fine (apart from complaining about not being able check partitions which are no longer there), but then can't find /home (as I've moved it to a seperate partition on the new one, wheras I had it within / on the old one)
[09:06] <ladydoor> botxj: just ask in #ubuntu-xgl, the appropriate channel
[09:06] <sivik> botxj: go to terminal, open /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:06] <wols_> Descention: if it doesn't exist, "modprobe nvidia". and to make it permanent, add "nvidia" to /etc/modules
[09:06] <xMorphix> GuS: lol, porn is the best part of the internet! :P
[09:07] <[GuS] > ok sivik, the problem is that router only accepts IE for HTTP conf... so i must use telnet
[09:07] <xMorphix> GuS: You should be able to build a filter through the firefox program itself
[09:07] <antares79> i heard that xMorphix ;-)
[09:07] <botxj> well ladydoor as much i'd like to, i've already gotten my answer :P
[09:07] <sivik> [GuS] , thats gay
[09:07] <J-_> wols_: it says xserver-corg is not installed
[09:07] <xMorphix> antares79: ;) haha
[09:07] <Descention> wols_: it doesnt say nvidia anywhere
[09:07] <[GuS] > yea sivik ... Arescom for that really sucks
[09:07] <ladydoor> kitchen: weird...so each time it boots, it rewrites it? sorry, i missed the first part of your conversation
[09:07] <wols_> J-_: xserver-xorg srry
[09:07] <xMorphix> ladydoor <---- Doesn't Sleep, is a help MASTA
[09:07] <sivik> [GuS] , not sure, is there not a place on that page that will allow you to block stuff?
[09:08] <sivik> [GuS] , and why just IE
[09:08] <ladydoor> xMorphix: lol...you obviously miss the most-of-every-day when i'm *not* here. but i appreciate the compliment
[09:08] <[GuS] > xMorphix, happy for you if you like it... bit i have a place with a lot of Kubuntu workstation.. where everybody comes... and i must block it
[09:08] <[GuS] > ok?
[09:08] <sivik> how do i fix a problem with local
[09:08] <[GuS] > :)
[09:08] <antares79> descention: but you _are_ trying to use the ubuntu provided nvidia driver, you're not compiling it yourself, are you?
[09:08] <kitchen> ladydoor: I don't know, I should have checked before I switched the HDD. All I know is that the fstab that I copied accross only contained a couple of generic lines
[09:08] <wols_> !locales >sivik
[09:08] <xMorphix> GuS: Interesting, well you should be able to set settings with firefox to need a password to view certain websites
[09:08] <kitchen> ladydoor: so I assume that it gets populated on boot
[09:09] <wols_> Descention: then do what I told you
[09:09] <kitchen> ladydoor: I think fedora uses evms to manage storage, I thought ubuntu might to something similar. I've come from gentoo, which just went with a straight-forward fstab approach to storage
[09:09] <sivik> wols_, thanks
[09:09] <Yaakov> [GuS] : The problem is that there are a mega-gazillion porn sites.
[09:09] <ladydoor> kitchen: aha! ok, actually you can edit it yourself to add appropriate locations
[09:09] <xMorphix> GuS: Do you use ubuntu OS?
[09:09] <Yaakov> [GuS] : Some kind of subscirption service like NetNanny or the like is probably the only way.
[09:09] <antares79> yaakov: what's your point? it's to bothersome to find the good ones? ;-)
[09:09] <[GuS] > Yaakov, i know... but something is something
[09:09] <Descention> I dont know how to compile
[09:10] <ladydoor> kitchen: do you happen to remember which partitions you assigned to what? if not, sudo fstab -l may refresh your memory.
[09:10] <antares79> ok, descention, just asking
[09:10] <[GuS] > i wil test dansguardian first
[09:10] <wols_> Descention: have you run "modprobe nvidia" yet?
[09:10] <siXy> gus DansGuardian
[09:10] <xMorphix> ladydoor: here is a question for you!
[09:10] <Descention> antares79: i downloaded nvidia-glx from the synaptic thing
[09:10] <ladydoor> xMorphix: shoot!
[09:10] <xMorphix> ladydoor: Ready!
[09:10] <Descention> wols_: yes, it said module not found
[09:10] <xMorphix> ladydoor: when I go into my terminal and do su, it asks for a password
[09:10] <antares79> what gfx card do you have, anyway?
[09:10] <kitchen> ladydoor: ok, sounds good, I'll give that a go. What made my curious was the fact that it moaned about not finding certain partitions to run fsck on, implying that it knew where stuff was - but that stuff wasn't in fstab
[09:11] <xMorphix> ladydoor: when I enter anything it says authorization failed
[09:11] <siXy> run an old computer as an ipcop box - install squid webproxy and run dansguardian. thats the best solution
[09:11] <xMorphix> ladydoor: so what is my password? :P
[09:11] <optimusprime> how do you remove an icon from the desktop....can't remember how I did to place it on the desktop....
[09:11] <Descention> antares79: i have an Nvidia geforce go 6800 ultra
[09:11] <ladydoor> kitchen: yeah, that is weird. i honestly don't know what's up with that
[09:11] <variant> anyone know how to edit the menu in gnome please?
[09:11] <optimusprime> lol
[09:11] <antares79> that's weird, descention
[09:11] <wols_> xMorphix: there is no root password. you can't go into root. use sudo
[09:11] <Yaakov> kitchen: There must be something that keeps a list for maintenance.  Maybe grep /etc?
[09:11] <xMorphix> wols_: Interesting
[09:11] <ladydoor> xMorphix: here's the thing:  ubuntu, by default, uses sudo for root access. when using sudo, you use your password. to become root, sudo -i is the command to use
[09:11] <Mouldy> hey all! Does anyone know how to make it so firefox can open irc:// links with xchat? It just tells me the irc protocol isn't associated with any programs.
[09:11] <wols_> !sudo > xMorphix
[09:12] <antares79> descention, what's in the directory /lib/modules/*/volatile ?
[09:12] <variant> xMorphix: do sudo su if you want to become root however that is not the reccomended method
[09:12] <kitchen> ladydoor: yeh, sounds likely, I'll check for that. brb (I'm on the kitchen pc as mine's down ;)
[09:12] <ladydoor> Mouldy: check out this extension:  mozex.modzev.org
[09:12] <xMorphix> variant/ladydoor/wols_ : So what do you recommend I do
[09:12] <POVaddct> xMorphix: "there is not root password" does not mean that the root password is empty, though :)
[09:12] <Descention> antares79: nothing
[09:13] <Mouldy> ladydoor, will do, thanks
[09:13] <ladydoor> Mouldy: it lets you assign programs to various and sundry types of links
[09:13] <POVaddct> xMorphix: there is just no valid password set for root
[09:13] <antares79> that's rather not good, descention
[09:13] <variant> xMorphix: run whatever command you want to run with root privilages with "sudo commandname" and enter your password
[09:13] <wols_> xMorphix: you can set a root password. or just use sudo
[09:13] <variant> POVaddct: yes there is..
[09:13] <Mouldy> ladydoor, was that a typo on the link? It's not finding the right page.
[09:13] <variant> POVaddct: its randomised though
[09:13] <xMorphix> wols_ : So lets set my password
[09:13] <Yaakov> sudo is a nice, clean, safe way ot act as superuser.
[09:13] <Descention> lol, nice
[09:13] <Ackeubu_> fluxbox &
[09:13] <xMorphix> wols_: sudo <whatever I want> ?
[09:13] <ladydoor> xMorphix: i would advise you to use sudo, and use sudo -i to su to root. if you *absolutely need* a root password, you can use sudo passwd root, but that is a LAST RESORT. use it only if your religion forbids sudo -i
[09:13] <wols_> xMorphix: yes
[09:14] <antares79> descention, are you up to date wrt to updates?
[09:14] <Descention> antares79: do you know what i should do?
[09:14] <xMorphix> ladydoor: lol
[09:14] <Descention> antares79: yes
[09:14] <xMorphix> ladydoor: I Just want to have something set, I don't NEED to use root
[09:14] <ladydoor> Mouldy: http://mozex.mozdev.org/ should work
[09:14] <xMorphix> ladydoor: Great, first I can't eat meat, now I can't use a root
[09:14] <Mouldy> ladydoor, thanks alot
[09:14] <POVaddct> variant: the password hash for root is not radomly set, is it "*", which can't be generated by any password
[09:14] <xMorphix> ladydoor: damn the religions
[09:14] <rexbron> !dri
[09:14] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[09:14] <antares79> don't know yet, descention... please wait a minute
[09:15] <rexbron>  I have a wierd problem, I have dri but no3d accel
[09:15] <albacker> any way to convert 3gp videos to swf or anything else ?
[09:15] <ladydoor> xMorphix: ok, then i guess you can do what i just said--however, do keep in mind it's not the "suggested" way of doing things :-)
[09:15] <ladydoor> xMorphix: and lol
[09:15] <kitche> rexbron: what card are you using?
[09:15] <xMorphix> ladydoor: thanks hun
[09:15] <rexbron> i915
[09:15] <xMorphix> wols_: you too, you roxers as well
[09:16] <dieman> [  172.591212]  Memory: 49456076k/51118080k available (2115k kernel code, 874836k reserved, 807k data, 180k init)
[09:16] <dieman> mmmmmm
[09:16] <ladydoor> xMorphix: please don't call me "hon." and you're welcome
[09:16] <Yaakov> The Hon. Ladydoor
[09:16] <antares79> alright, descention: is there a directory /lib/linux-restricted-modules/(kernel version)/nvidia/ ?
[09:16] <rexbron> kitche: i915
[09:16] <ladydoor> xMorphix: though if you meant it in the sense of "attila/door the..." then you're fine
[09:16] <Descention> antares79: yes
[09:17] <antares79> is there anything in it?
[09:17] <Descention> antares79: 8 files
[09:17] <wols_> rexbron: which X driver? and: i915G integrated graphics?
[09:17] <xMorphix> ladydor: Yes, thats the way I meant it
[09:17] <Yaakov> ladydoor: Atilla the Door
[09:17] <antares79> that's right
[09:17] <ladydoor> Yaakov: lol
[09:17] <xMorphix> anywho
[09:17] <rexbron> kitche: i810 and yes
[09:17] <Mouldy> ladydoor, I won't install. Says there's something wrong with the chrome file.
[09:18] <Descention> antares79: nv.o is one... nvidia.mod.o might be what im looking for?
[09:18] <robbbb> hello
[09:18] <variant> anyone know where the menu file is located so i can add my own custome entry?
[09:18] <variant> in gnome
[09:18] <kitche> rexbron: well try this glxinfo|grep rendering in a terminal
[09:18] <antares79> those are the ones, yes... but they should also be relocated to another place where the kernel can find them automatically.. looks like that doesn't happen on your system
[09:18] <ladydoor> Mouldy: this'll sound like a stupid question, but did you click on the "install" button for windows or for *nix??
[09:18] <stadtfilter> ah finally...in dmesg it shows Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet splash....from where did it take that? grub?
[09:18] <robbbb> anyone in here know much about programming in linux? specificly using a visual environment and connections to MSSQL?
[09:18] <Mouldy> ladydoor, For *nix :p
[09:19] <rexbron> direct rendering: Yes
[09:19] <rexbron> kitche: direct rendering: Yes
[09:19] <Descention> antares79:  so something is wrong
[09:19] <antares79> descention: try running "sudo /etc/init.d/linux-restricted-modules-common start"
[09:19] <Imrahil> robbbb, do you mean mysql or ms sql server?
[09:19] <spiderworm> hey all, i have a blender.desktop entry in /usr/share/applications, but no corrosponding blender application in applications>graphics..... does anyone know how to fix this?
[09:19] <blade_> Any one in here familiar with Rythmbox Music Player?
[09:19] <Mouldy> ladydoor, It seems to start installing, then after it tells me to restart firefox it says; "Firefox could not install the file at .... because: Chrome registration failed
[09:20] <Descention> antares79: "ok"
[09:20] <robbbb> Imrahil, MSSQL i'm afriad
[09:20] <ladydoor> Mouldy: hmmmm. that's very weird. perhaps install an older version (on the right side of the main page)?
[09:20] <stadtfilter> antares79, any idea?
[09:20] <stadtfilter> nothing in grub like this enabled huh
[09:20] <kitchen> ladydoor: ok, couldn't find anything in /etc, but I added all my paths manually, and (after a couple of tweaks) it now all works fine :) many thanks to yourself and Yaakov, and all the best from sunny Dubai!
[09:20] <antares79> descention: ok... is there anything in /lib/modules/(kernel version)/volatile now?
[09:21] <Descention> no
[09:21] <ladydoor> Mouldy: also, are you in dapper/using the latest version of firefox?
[09:21] <rexbron> ktiche: direct rendering: Yes
[09:21] <rexbron> kitche: direct rendering: Yes
[09:21] <ladydoor> kitchen: congratulations! glad to help. Enjoy!
[09:21] <Mouldy> ladydoor, Yep, latest dapper and firefox. I'll try an older version of the extension
[09:21] <Imrahil> robbbb, no experience connecting to ms sql but it should be straightforward. what type of visual environment are you using?
[09:21] <Descention> antares79: should i just re-format?
[09:21] <Mouldy> ladydoor, It worked, thanks =) Now just to set it up with an IRC client and I'm good to go :)
[09:21] <robbbb> well i'm using visual studio at the moment, but want to start running stuff in linux instead
[09:22] <ladydoor> Mouldy: great! enjoy!
[09:22] <antares79> hang on for a minute... nvidia drivers are not worth a re-install ;-)
[09:22] <Descention> hah
[09:22] <kitche> rexbron: ok it's using the i915 driver. I m not sure if i915 has 3d accel directly, sicne the i845g and lower don't have direct 3d accel.
[09:23] <mwe> i915 supports direct rendering
[09:23] <bette> hello peps... can some one tell me how i can change the language from french to english on a sever with Kubutnu ??? i am logget in with Putty... i cant remotedesktop it...
[09:23] <mwe> but it's somewhat slow
[09:23] <mjr> ...and also the older i8xx thingies do
[09:24] <blue-frog> is there a channel for edgy?
[09:24] <kitche> mjr: I know with i845g you need mesalib to get full 3d accel
[09:24] <mwe> !edgy
[09:24] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:24] <blue-frog> ty
[09:24] <mjr> kitche, all X.org DRI drivers use mesa...
[09:24] <robbbb> !schedule
[09:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:25] <quiet> wat driver should be used by "0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Grap
[09:25] <quiet> hics Controller (rev 02)
[09:25] <quiet> "  i have been using i810...  would i get better results with i915 or something?
[09:25] <antares79> descention: try running "sudo /sbin/lrm-manager --quick" and please tell me what i says
[09:25] <antares79> it
[09:26] <kitche> mjr: yes but i915 isn't a X.org driver
[09:26] <POVaddct> quiet: for i915 the Xorg driver is still i810, or do you mean the kernel dri driver?
[09:26] <Descention> antares79: it doesnt say anything
[09:26] <sivik> ok, doing the dpkg-reconfigure localeconf didn't fix that problem
[09:26] <quiet> POVaddct, umm.. oh... i dunno.
[09:26] <kitche> quiet: there is an i915 driver but you have to compile it yourself atleast the Intel driver
[09:26] <antares79> descention, what's "uname -r"?
[09:27] <sivik> what does the LC_ALL look like
[09:27] <robbbb> anyone know of a visual development environment for linux?
[09:27] <Descention> 2.6.15-27-686
[09:27] <sivik> robbbb, what lang?
[09:27] <sivik> robbbb, or langs?
[09:27] <robbbb> c#
[09:27] <robbbb> vb
[09:27] <sivik> robbbb, monodevelop
[09:27] <robbbb> either really
[09:27] <sivik> robbbb, install mono and then monodevelop
[09:28] <antares79> and did all those directories that i told you to look for files in contain that string anywhere? or was it (if ever so slightly) different?
[09:28] <sivik> robbbb, does that make sense
[09:28] <Descention> antares79: the volatile folder is in a 386 folder
[09:28] <J-_> wols_:  thanks for helping me reconfigure x11, i not only got the gui working but i got the right driver working, and it works awesome. it's nice to have video acceleration =D
[09:28] <antares79> ah, gotcha
[09:28] <robbbb> sivik, yeah thanks. isn't mono a .net emulator?
[09:29] <sivik> robbbb, no
[09:29] <cs02rm0> how would i go about getting a linux kernel update from edgy eft and nothing else? just change my sources.list, update, install the kernel, put the sources.list back and update again?
[09:29] <bette> hello... can some one tell me how i can change the language from french to english on a sever with Kubutnu ??? i am logget in with Putty... i cant remotedesktop it...
[09:29] <antares79> try "sudo apt-get install linux-686" (i think it is *cough* ;-)
[09:29] <sivik> robbb: go to mono-project.com and look around
[09:29] <POVaddct> quiet: the Xorg driver is for basic X display via the intel card. the dri driver is only needed if you want 3d acceleration.
[09:29] <robbbb> sivik, yeah looks cool.
[09:29] <rbw> I am using Ubuntu 6.06... If I reboot my system remotely, how do I get VNC to run so I can login to the desktop remotely?
[09:29] <quiet> POVaddct, is there a howto for installing that?
[09:29] <sivik> robbbb, monodevelop is the IDE for mono
[09:29] <POVaddct> quiet: dunno
[09:30] <Descention> antares79: it's running...
[09:30] <robbbb> got ya
[09:30] <Descention> antares79: done
[09:30] <robbbb> anyone know howto get your mouse to follow focus?
[09:30] <antares79> fine... did it download linux-restricted-modules-686?
[09:31] <Descention> yes
[09:31] <Descention> i tihnk
[09:31] <Locke2> http://www.usbcell.com/
[09:31] <robbbb> using enlightment as the WM
[09:31] <xMorphix> what java client should I use?
[09:31] <antares79> good... you have to reboot now... after that, it should (haha *g) just work
[09:31] <kitche> robbbb: should be in the settings for enlightenment right click and it should say focus in that menu
[09:31] <sivik> robbbb, enlightenment is cool, i like it
[09:31] <Descention> alright, thank oyu
[09:32] <ladydoor> ok, i've got a question. a lot of people in here ask about 3D acceleration, whether with nvidia or ati. What are the benefits of it? Does it matter for somebody who only uses, say, ratpoison WM and isn't a gamer?
[09:32] <Descention> i'll be back to let you know if it works or not
[09:32] <antares79> no problem... good luck, descention
[09:32] <sivik> robbbb, yeah, it is either right click or ctrl-left click
[09:32] <robbbb> kitche, sivik, it still doesn't seem to follow the mouse
[09:32] <sivik> robbbb, you have to restart enlightenment
[09:32] <antares79> anyway, i came into this room to ask a question myself in the first place ;-)
[09:33] <sivik> ctrl-alt-backspace and relogin
[09:33] <robbbb> really?
[09:33] <sivik> antares79, what is your question
[09:33] <sivik> robbbb, yeah, try that
[09:33] <antares79> does anyone know if edgy will contain the recently announced intel graphics drivers?
[09:33] <POVaddct> ladydoor: mostly it's needed for games
[09:33] <sivik> antares79, not sure, i don't use intel
[09:33] <robbbb> i've just changed from 'focus follows mouse'
[09:33] <xMorphix> if I wanted to use java, what program should I use?
[09:33] <ladydoor> POVaddct: ok, that about answers my question. thanks a lot!
[09:33] <robbbb> took effect instantly, but it's not want i'm after
[09:33] <kitche> ladydoor: well it depends but ratposion it's no good on but you need 3d accel to use compiz if you want to use something like that
[09:33] <POVaddct> ladydoor: window managers normally take no advantage of 3d accel
[09:34] <sivik> robbbb, what are you after?
[09:34] <antares79> thanks anyway, sivik
[09:34] <ladydoor> kitche: aha, thanks
[09:34] <sivik> antares79, just trying to help
[09:34] <sivik> how do i fix http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24901
[09:35] <rexbron> kitche: so is there any recourse for me?
[09:35] <robbbb> i want to be able to click i.e. a contact in gaim, and it will then move my mouse to the conversation window
[09:35] <POVaddct> ladydoor: for example on my machines i have no 3d accel at all. i simply don't need it.
[09:35] <mwe> the pastebin is really slow
[09:35] <variant> works like a charm
[09:35] <rexbron> O.o
[09:35] <ladydoor> POVaddct: that makes sense. yeah, i don't have it either, and was just kind of wondering if i was missing out. lol
[09:35] <antares79> sivik: what's your locale?
[09:36] <antares79> ie. what does "echo $LC_ALL" say?
[09:36] <mwe> sivik: seems to be an unsupported locale
[09:36] <antares79> wb descention
[09:36] <Descention> IT works!!!! I have Nvidia!!!
[09:36] <Descention> lol
[09:36] <variant> Descention: unlucky
[09:36] <antares79> woohoo ;-)
[09:36] <sivik> antares79, i live in the us so its english
[09:36] <Descention> thank you
[09:36] <trappist> POVaddct: I don't think anybody would argue that it's necessary, or even really useful.  sure is nice to look at though.
[09:36] <sivik> antares79, i'm not sure what i need to do in order to fix it
[09:36] <kitche> rexbron: well it seems like to me you have 3d accel but it's probably not full 3d
[09:37] <xMorphix> ...<<<<<Look at my fun way to get attention>>>>>.....
[09:37] <kitche> really 3d accel is only needed if you want to run eyecandy stuff
[09:37] <xMorphix> what java client should I use
[09:37] <rexbron> kitche: so how should go about getting "full" 3d accel
[09:37] <sivik> mwe: what can i do to fix it?
[09:37] <kitche> xMorphix: java client for what?
[09:37] <antares79> sivik, please wait a minute
[09:37] <sivik> k
[09:37] <J-_> i just like the acceleration for gaming, and or doing projects in the gimp, "applying filters" doesn't take hours(minutes in my case).. 2 seconds it's done =D
[09:37] <xMorphix> kitche: well I need java to run some things in firefox
[09:38] <trappist> xMorphix: if I wasn't completely put off by your attempt at getting attention, I'd ask what you mean by java client.
[09:38] <xMorphix> trappist: haha
[09:38] <antares79> sivik: please go to the directory /var/lib/locales/supported.d
[09:38] <xMorphix> trappist: it worked though
[09:38] <kitche> rexbron: you could try installing mesalib and setting that up it might be installed already
[09:38] <trappist> xMorphix: I promise it's not the kind of attention you want.  please avoid the temptation in the future.
[09:38] <sivik> antares79, ok, now what?
[09:38] <kitche> XMorhpix: just install java
[09:38] <xMorphix> trappist: Any type of attention is wanted ;P
[09:38] <antares79> is there a file called "local"?
[09:38] <rexbron> kitche: whats the command to conifre libmesa
[09:39] <kitche> XMorphix: I would install JSDK myself
[09:39] <xMorphix> kitche: well I tried that I just oculdn't get it to install
[09:39] <robbbb> hmmmm.. i think gnome might be interfering with enlightmenet
[09:39] <sivik> antares79, en & local
[09:39] <xMorphix> kitche: where would I get JSDK?
[09:39] <sivik> robbbb, then uninstall gnome
[09:39] <xMorphix> kitche: run a search for it?
[09:39] <kitche> rexbron: it's more though the xorg.conf you have to set up the dri section
[09:39] <robbbb> i use the gnome-panel
[09:39] <POVaddct> trappist: i used to like transparent terminals around 1999 or so. but if you really work with such terminals, you soon learn that a opaque terminal is much more readable.
[09:39] <variant> xMorphix: use synaptic and search for jdk
[09:39] <kitche> XMorphix: yes if you want apt-get package
[09:40] <variant> xMorphix: but you only need a jdk if you intend to develop. if you just want to use java programs then you need the jre
[09:40] <whurley> hi all, is there any way I can netboot to install Ubuntu server?
[09:40] <antares79> wait a minute... it says LC_ALL is unset... that's funny
[09:40] <Ubuntu-ph> how can I run emacs on xterm ?
[09:40] <xMorphix> variant: I just plan to use
[09:40] <antares79> what's in /etc/environment, sivik?
[09:40] <trappist> POVaddct: having transparent terminals requires you to choose your desktop background carefully.  also looks quite nice, and a *truly* transparent terminal can also be useful.
[09:40] <ladydoor> robbbb: are you trying to use enlightened gnome?
[09:40] <variant> xMorphix: then search for jre not jdk
[09:40] <variant> Ubuntu-ph: read the man page
[09:40] <robbbb> ladydoor, yeah i guess so
[09:41] <ladydoor> robbbb: (like, gnome with enlightenment as a window manager instead of metacity)
[09:41] <trappist> Ubuntu-ph: I think it's emacs -nw
[09:41] <Ubuntu-ph> variant: was hoping for a quick command
[09:41] <xMorphix> variant: I ran a search in Synaptic, all it returned was dockbook-xsl
[09:41] <Ubuntu-ph> trappist: thanks
[09:41] <variant> Ubuntu-ph: man emacs
[09:41] <variant> Ubuntu-ph: :)
[09:41] <POVaddct> trappist: the only transparent thing on my desktop is root-tail, which sits on the root window displaying me the last line of some log files
[09:41] <robbbb> ladydoor, yeah exactly like that
[09:41] <Ubuntu-ph> variant: yeah, right
[09:41] <variant> xMorphix: look for sun jre
[09:41] <jazzrocker> Ubuntu-ph, emacs has an X11 version
[09:41] <variant> xMorphix: or blackdown
[09:41] <variant> xMorphix: you need to enable the other repositorys
[09:41] <blowfish> The greeter application appears to be crashing.
[09:41] <Ubuntu-ph> jazzrocker: really ?
[09:41] <blowfish> why ?
[09:41] <Ubuntu-ph> :)
[09:41] <blowfish> 6.06.1
[09:41] <jazzrocker> Ubuntu-ph, it should run by default actually. yes
[09:41] <variant> xMorphix: before they are available
[09:42] <trappist> POVaddct: I might for example start a compile job, then work in an ever-so-slightly transparent window on top of that, and be able to see when it's done (or at least when it's stopped)
[09:42] <xMorphix> variant: so how would I do that?
[09:42] <jazzrocker> Ubuntu-ph, there's also xemacs but xemacs is a branch iirc
[09:42] <ladydoor> robbbb: i know that there's an old howto on the forums (like for hoary or something) but it still might be a good jumping-off point...let me see if i can find it
[09:42] <blowfish> when gnome bootings
[09:42] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys, I just removed my external hdd from its casing and put in inside the comp.  I see the 3 partitions in "computer" although when I try to access anyone of them I get the Error "Unable to mount the selected volume."  "error: device /dev/hdb3 is not removable"  "error: could not execute pmount" any ideas???
[09:42] <Ubuntu-ph> jazzrocker: I see
[09:42] <variant> xMorphix: there is extensive docs for it on ubuntu website
[09:42] <robbbb> ladydoor, thanks
[09:42] <jazzrocker> Ubuntu-ph, e.g. if you're in GNOME and you type "emacs" in a terminal... it should launch an X11 emacs because it knows you're in X11
[09:42] <rexbron> kitche: here is my xorg.conf, I thought is was set up correctly
[09:42] <rexbron> kitche: http://pastebin.ca/183291
[09:42] <Ubuntu-ph> trappist: emacs -nw worked
[09:42] <jazzrocker> Ubuntu-ph, personally i don't think anyone should ever type "emacs" ever
[09:42] <xMorphix> variant: that's why I come here, to stay awar from the "extensive" type of reading
[09:42] <xMorphix> away*
[09:42] <POVaddct> trappist: i'd rather use screen(1) for that. (screen's "monitor for silence" function)
[09:43] <Ubuntu-ph> jazzrocker: why is that ?
[09:43] <trappist> Ubuntu-ph: yeah for me too.  but then I didn't know how to get out of emacs :)
[09:43] <jazzrocker> Ubuntu-ph, i've already got an OS :)
[09:43] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE: to mount hard disks use System>Administration>Disks or add the apropiate lines to /etc/fstab
[09:43] <trappist> POVaddct: screen is definitely a must-have
[09:43] <Ubuntu-ph> trappist: heh
[09:43] <POVaddct> trappist: yes :)
[09:43] <Ubuntu-ph> jazzrocker: what does that mean ?
[09:43] <jazzrocker> Ubuntu-ph, vim is faster and better. emacs PHP support is very crappy. vim doesn't try to be your kitchen sink.
[09:43] <ladydoor> robbbb: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54476&highlight=enlightened+gnome . This is an old howto, but people still post to it (as of a month ago, it seems), so you might look at the first few and the last few postings :-). good luck!
[09:43] <Lam_> is emacs default with ubuntu or do i have to install the emacs package?
[09:43] <jazzrocker> Ubuntu-ph, hehehe if you don't know why you're using emacs you should get out now and switch to vim :P
[09:43] <Splintah> is it worth it to upgrade to 6.10 knot 3 or should I just wait for the final release?
[09:43] <jazzrocker> Lam_, iirc you have to install it
[09:44] <robbbb> ladydoor - thanks for that
[09:44] <Ubuntu-ph> jazzrocker: vim > emacs ?
[09:44] <jazzrocker> Lam_, yeah you have to install it
[09:44] <javier> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[09:44] <ladydoor> robbbb: np
[09:44] <Lam_> ok just checking
[09:44] <jazzrocker> Ubugtu, IMHO yes, by far
[09:44] <antares79> sivik?
[09:44] <kitche> rexbron: yeah it's set up correctly guess that i915 just uses direct rendering
[09:44] <jazzrocker> gah
[09:44] <jazzrocker> Ubuntu-ph, that was for you
[09:44] <robbbb> i've used enlightement for a long time, but need to get it working *exactly* as i need
[09:44] <ladydoor> javier: Ubuntu-ph:  could we save the religious debate for #ubuntu-offtopic, please?
[09:44] <Ubuntu-ph> lol
[09:44] <ladydoor> javier: sorry, not you
[09:44] <javier> alguien habla espaol?
[09:44] <rexbron> kitche: glxgears gives about 500 fps
[09:44] <ladydoor> jazzrocker: please save the religious debate for #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:44] <ArrenLex> !es
[09:44] <ladydoor> !es
[09:45] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:45] <ladydoor> ArrenLex: too quick for me
[09:45] <javier> gracias
[09:45] <ArrenLex> It's very quiet for 953 people.
[09:46] <ladydoor> ArrenLex: that's just asking for trouble
[09:46] <Komisch> hello
[09:46] <erUSUL> !dapper
[09:46] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[09:46] <enyc> ladydoor: lol
[09:46] <Paddy_EIRE> erUSUL: gonna try the "disks" option first as I think mounting it using fstab would be difficult as the drive is spilt into 3 ntfs partitions. It contains loads of progs, vids, music, and me mother and course work. I just plan on copying what I need to my ubuntu drive then formatting it
[09:46] <Lam_> i dont mean to criticize, but even with ndiswrapper, my broadcom card seems to have horrible range
[09:46] <erUSUL> !upgrade
[09:46] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:46] <Komisch> how can i open rar files ? i am using ubuntu 6.06
[09:46] <jazzrocker> Ubuntu-ph, here's a fact (e.g. less religious, no debate): vim comes installed on most *nix distros by default. emacs almost never does.
[09:46] <rexbron> kitche: glxgears gives
[09:46] <czer323> Anyone work with kxdocker and gaim?  I'm having issues with gaim not showing as an active application when gaim is mimimized to the system tray.  Any suggestions?
[09:46] <kyja> lashings are given out by uboto on the most popular speaker.
[09:46] <rexbron> kitche: glxgears gives 2638 frames in 5.0 seconds = 527.444 FPS
[09:46] <Animaonline> Ubuntu Rulez
[09:46] <ArrenLex> Homisch: apt-get install unrar
[09:46] <erUSUL> !ntfs > Paddy_EIRE
[09:47] <kitche> rexbron: yeah does the gears spin slow or no?
[09:47] <Komisch> E: Package unrar has no installation candidate
[09:47] <rexbron> slowly
[09:47] <kyja> !custom
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about custom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <rexbron> kitche: slowly
[09:47] <ArrenLex> Kimisch: either add multiverse or try unrar-free
[09:47] <xMorphix> variant: still can't find anything close to java
[09:47] <mwe> !info unrar
[09:47] <ArrenLex> Kom
[09:47] <xMorphix> !java
[09:47] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[09:47] <Paddy_EIRE> erUSUL: i know the craic with ntfs :)
[09:47] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:47] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE: check out the script in the page ubotu told you. This script makes aviable to you all your win partitions under /media
[09:47] <kitche> rexbron: yeah that might be due to i915 direct rendering is probably slower then the mesalib way
[09:47] <Komisch> ok
[09:47] <sivik> antares79, sorry, what do i need to try next, i'm in that folder and there are two things there, en and local
[09:48] <Komisch> how do i add multiverse?
[09:48] <Paddy_EIRE> erUSUL: oh, nice one did not know of a script that'll do it
[09:48] <rexbron> kitche: how do i check to see oif i have the mesalib
[09:48] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE: the scipt will add the apropiate lines to /etc/fstab
[09:48] <sivik> Komisch, open /etc/apt/sources.list and add the line
[09:48] <Komisch> i did sudo apt-get update
[09:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Yes you did...
[09:48] <Animaonline> http://www.animaonline.com   This site has a lot of stuff bout Ubuntu 6.06
[09:48] <mwe> !repos
[09:48] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:48] <Animaonline> :(
[09:48] <antares79> sivik, i overlooked sth (is that a word?)... what's in /etc/environment? (it's a text file)
[09:48] <ArrenLex> !multiverse > Komisch
[09:48] <ladydoor> Komisch: you edit /etc/apt/sources.list. first, back it up:  cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak . then, do sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:48] <kitche> rexbron: check synaptic to see if you have it installed
[09:49] <rexbron> k
[09:49] <Animaonline> hello!!! can someone help me?
[09:49] <Paddy_EIRE> not a script that does it for you Jack_Sparrow
[09:49] <ladydoor> Komisch: and then add the line deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse
[09:49] <georgy> !ask
[09:49] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Diskmounter?
[09:49] <Animaonline> i can't run ubuntu on my second pc, it says, decompressing linux kernel, and then my computer restarts
[09:49] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: oh, then I did hehe, oops
[09:50] <POVaddct> Animaonline: look like bad ram
[09:50] <POVaddct> Animaonline: run memtest
[09:50] <Animaonline> i did
[09:50] <Animaonline> i have 768mb ram
[09:50] <georgy> Animaonline : try boot option noapic
[09:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: FYI, HI, just taking a break from building new shelves in the pantry for the wife..
[09:50] <Animaonline> ok
[09:50] <CokeNCode> hey, guys, i've noticed alot of apps lately that offer free tv for windows users ... are there any linux versions of these apps ?
[09:50] <sivik> antares79, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24903
[09:51] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: wife
[09:51] <ArrenLex> Coke: you mean like mythtv?
[09:51] <xMorphix> I don't seem to have the multiverse repository
[09:51] <sivik> CokeNCode, do you mean for a tv capture card?
[09:51] <CokeNCode> ArrenLex yeh
[09:51] <antares79> thanks, sivik, i'll take a look
[09:51] <xMorphix> where would I find that?
[09:51] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: you get married....congrats
[09:51] <Animaonline> thanks everyone! talk to yall later
[09:51] <ArrenLex> Coke: How about... mythtv?
[09:51] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[09:51] <CokeNCode> sivik nah, not a tv capture card ... streaming network tv
[09:51] <Dr_willis> How is that tv 'free' ?
[09:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Over 25 years ago
[09:51] <sivik> !repos >xMorphix
[09:51] <rexbron> !libgl1-mesa-glide3
[09:51] <ubotu> libgl1-mesa-glide3: A free implementation of the OpenGL API -- glide runtime. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.2.1-8 (dapper), package size 1600 kB, installed size 4812 kB (Only available for i386 alpha amd64)
[09:51] <CokeNCode> is there an apt-get for mythtv ?
[09:51] <sivik> !repos > xMorphix
[09:51] <xMorphix> sivik: thanks sivik
[09:51] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: oops, lol
[09:51] <sivik> CokeNCode, yes
[09:51] <Dr_willis> heh.. seen a few web sites that stream tv video. but they tend to use custome programs
[09:51] <sivik> xMorphix, yw
[09:51] <rexbron> !libgl1-mesa
[09:51] <ubotu> libgl1-mesa: A free implementation of the OpenGL API -- GLX runtime. In component main, is extra. Version 6.4.1-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 158 kB, installed size 488 kB
[09:52] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: congrats again then, :/
[09:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: I am thinking of reworking diskmounter to insculde ntfs-3g.
[09:52] <CokeNCode> Dr_willis yup! and the custom programs are usually for windows only
[09:52] <rexbron> kitche: I have mesa installed but not things like glide3
[09:52] <CokeNCode> hence my problem
[09:52] <sivik> CokeNCode, have you tried running them in wine
[09:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: I have not seen any problems with it recently
[09:53] <xMorphix> sivik: ok so it is all on me, however how do I get to the multiverse repository
[09:53] <antares79> sivik: you can remove all those LC_something lines and replace them with "LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8" .  But better put that line above that ### BEGIN DEBCONF etc. line
[09:53] <CokeNCode> sivik yeh ... no dice
[09:53] <xMorphix> sivik: is that under the managingrepositories page?
[09:53] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: jeeze now that would be somethin
[09:53] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: you think its at a good level of stability now
[09:54] <kitche> rexbron: I would install glide3 and the mesa-dri package just to make sure
[09:54] <rexbron> ok
[09:54] <sivik> xMorphix, i edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file and add the repos to that file and then run a sudo apt-get update
[09:54] <fenotype> hi all
[09:54] <rexbron> kitche: the mesa-dri package is already installed
[09:54] <sivik> xMorphix, pm
[09:54] <antares79> sivik: like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24904
[09:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Close enough for me to do some testing on my own systems
[09:55] <fenotype> could someone help me about kernel?
[09:55] <CokeNCode> well, i'll try mythtv ... thanks guys
[09:55] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: that'll be a memorable release, good luck... :)
[09:55] <ladydoor> !kernel
[09:55] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:55] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[09:55] <sivik> xMorphix, did you get that pm?
[09:55] <wols> fenotype: just ask
[09:55] <fenotype> tnx
[09:56] <radioaktivstorm> hello, i am having an issue with my audio i/o; im trying to record  via audacity but cannot. (it gives me a funky error message about i/o)
[09:57] <fenotype> i've just recompiled my dapper 6.06's kernel with one download at ubuntu's repository
[09:57] <sivik> antares79, trying it now
[09:57] <Xabaras> ciao
[09:57] <xMorphix> sivik: I did, and I added the multiverse repositories from system>administration>software properties
[09:57] <antares79> sivik: this change requires a reboot AFAIK
[09:57] <Xabaras> ragazzi a chi posso chiedere per un aiuto sull'accelerazione grafic
[09:57] <Xabaras> a
[09:57] <xMorphix> sivik: you want me to add those two you PM'ed me as well?
[09:58] <xMorphix> !java
[09:58] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:58] <fenotype> 1) applied a patch to the kernel 2) configured
[09:58] <sivik> xMorphix, didn't know you did the multiverse thingy in system.admin.software properties
[09:58] <fenotype> 3) compiled 4) installed
[09:58] <sivik> xMorphix, if you already did that first, you shouldn't have to do what i told you, do a sudo apt-get update and see if it works, if not, go in and edit the sources.list and add those and then it will work
[09:59] <xMorphix> sivik: I like to sometimes I pretend to act like I know what your all talking about
[09:59] <fenotype> the problem is that my older kernel had a directory named volatile
[09:59] <xMorphix> sivik: however, if it doesn't work, might need to step me through it
[09:59] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: Im getting "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hdb1"."
[09:59] <fenotype> ando others that the newer on hasn't got
[09:59] <sivik> xMorphix, ok
[10:00] <sivik> xMorphix, ok, do an sudo apt-get update
[10:00] <ReinH> guys, question, if I'm going to partition my HD to dual boot with WinXP, with a root ubuntu partition and a Ext3 partition for /home and shared date, how big should the root ubuntu partition be?
[10:00] <ReinH> (and also a partition for windows, of course)
[10:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Post your fstab for me pastebin of course
[10:00] <sivik> xMorphix, what package are you trying install that require the multiverse
[10:00] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: :) excellent
[10:00] <xMorphix> sivik: ok i'm downloading the sun-java5-jre / plugin / and fonts
[10:00] <Xabaras> enyone can help me for enable acelerator grafic
[10:00] <beuno> ReinH: it really depends on what your habits on installing software is
[10:00] <Xabaras> ??
[10:00] <sivik> ok, then it should have worked
[10:00] <beuno> in /home or el /usr
[10:01] <sivik> xMorphix, i'm pretty sure you need the multiverse for those
[10:01] <beuno> ReinH: I'd say no less de 6gb to be safe
[10:01] <kjm> ReinH - whole system will install in under 5 GB - but, if you plan on installing lots of libraries (KDE stuff, developer tools) I'd make it 10 - 15 GB to be safe.
[10:01] <xMorphix> sivik: oh yeah, I found them and they are downloading as we speak
[10:01] <sivik> xMorphix, then your all set
[10:01] <fenotype> Xabras: vieni su ubuntu-it che c' meno casino
[10:01] <georgy> !nvidia
[10:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:01] <appelza> Hi how do I install eAccelerator ? 'apt-get install eAccelerator' gives me 'this package is referenced by another source..'
[10:01] <xMorphix> sivik: your always a treasure here, thanks sivik again
[10:01] <sivik> xMorphix, yw
[10:02] <fenotype> Xabaras: vieni su ubuntu-it che c' meno casino
[10:02] <appelza> !pkg eAccelerator
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pkg eAccelerator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24905
[10:02] <ReinH> beuno, kjm: thank you :) I think I'll go with a middle of the road 12GB. This will be a dev box and run a development (no public access) server
[10:02] <beuno> welcome :D
[10:02] <xMorphix> sivik: lol they are downloading, through a 820.11b at 210 b/s
[10:02] <beuno> you can always change the size later
[10:03] <kjm> appelza : apt-cache search eAccelerator finds nothing - what is it?
[10:03] <xMorphix> sivik: what type of wirless gives you 210b/s :P
[10:03] <sivik> xMorphix, that sucks
[10:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Loading it up now...  we may need to edit your /etc/pmount.allow
[10:03] <ReinH> beuno: true :)
[10:03] <ReinH> thanks, guys
[10:03] <ReinH> expect to see me in here once I get things running :)
[10:03] <Tyk0s> Need help with an install error get it on both desktop & server version /msg
[10:03] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: sure
[10:03] <sivik> xMorphix, it kinda depends on how far away from the ap you are and how good the internet is to that ap
[10:03] <beuno> g'luck
[10:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Argh... those are all ntfs..
[10:03] <kjm> ReinH - you should be sage with 12 GB.  Also, I find it adventagous to put /etc on its own partition (as well as /home)
[10:03] <xMorphix> sivik: I know, I just think it's funny that it would be faster through dial-up
[10:03] <kjm> See you ReinH
[10:03] <xMorphix> sivik: yeees what is the world coming too
[10:03] <sivik> xMorphix, yes, thats rather funny
[10:04] <sivik> xMorphix, where are you getting this connection from?
[10:04] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: the annoying thing is I just want some work of each of them ...then its getting formatted
[10:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: I thought I taught you better than that...
[10:04] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[10:04] <xMorphix> sivik: local sandwhich place near me
[10:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Ok so you just want to read them and your fstab if fine.
[10:04] <kinection> exit
[10:04] <xMorphix> sivik: 100% connection, non-encrypted
[10:04] <sivik> xMorphix, how far from the location are you?
[10:04] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: this drive was from my Windoze era
[10:04] <xMorphix> sivik: 12 feet
[10:04] <sivik> xMorphix, then they are just either full or don't have a good connection
[10:05] <sivik> antares79, that didn't fix it
[10:05] <CarlFK> when did 2.6.15-27-k7 come out?
[10:05] <xMorphix> jack_Sparrow: Congrats on the marriage thing, sorry your in "Jail" the rest of your life
[10:05] <xMorphix> jack_Sparrow: :p
[10:05] <sivik> CarlFK, a while back
[10:05] <antares79> sivik, as I said, you need a reboot
[10:05] <CarlFK> sivik: days or weeks?
[10:05] <Bordoch> can anyone tell me how to install a package so that all user account have access to that package?
[10:05] <sivik> CarlFK, well, the current most stable kernel is 2.6.17 something
[10:05] <sivik> CarlFK, so its been a while
[10:05] <Tyk0s> tried 2 linux versions now and come to same "error", both ubuntu desktop & server version. think i successfully boot with CD i think (becuase i get same thing on screen when i start with the CD), it stop with [DR-DOS] A:\>. It says something about Caldera DR-DOS 7.03 & DPMS Dos Protected mode services. please help :)
[10:05] <sivik> antares79, i did, i did it on the laptop and then i rebotted it
[10:05] <wols> Bordoch: depends a bit on the package, but normally there is no special way. so which package is it?
[10:05] <sivik> Tyk0s, your not burning the disc correctly
[10:06] <kjm> Bordoch - ?  All users do have access to every package they have permission to use.
[10:06] <sivik> Tyk0s, what program are you using to burn it
[10:06] <Tyk0s> nero express
[10:06] <Bordoch> sun run time envirinment
[10:06] <wols> Tyk0s: stop trolling
[10:06] <ReinH> kjm: just saw your comment: how big a partition should /etc have? and how advantageous?
[10:06] <jenda> I'm wondering - if I want to move my / partition - is it enough to copy it verbatim using gparted and setting the new one as / in fstab?
[10:06] <antares79> sivik, is it still the same message?  with LC_ALL=(unset) ?
[10:06] <rexbron> kitche: the glide packages unistalled mesa, and seeing as they are not for my card I reverted
[10:06] <xMorphix> Tyk0s: Your burning the cd as an image correct?
[10:06] <Xabaras> !pkg eAccelerator
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pkg eAccelerator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <CarlFK> sivik: shouldn't the 'check for updates' be telling me there is a new one?
[10:06] <Dr_willis> Tyk0s,  look on the cd. and see what files are on it at this time.
[10:06] <xMorphix> Tyk0s: and not as a "data-file"
[10:06] <lewix> you're going to drive back and forth?
[10:06] <antares79> jenda: you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and run update-grub afterwards as well
[10:06] <sivik> CarlFK, it depends on what your repos say, are you in breezy or dapper?
[10:06] <rexbron> kitche; also, (this happened before too) it get
[10:06] <rexbron> glxgears: intel_ioctl.c:62: intelEmitIrqLocked: Assertion `((*(int *)intel->driHwLock) & ~0x40000000U) == (0x80000000U|intel->hHWContext)' failed.
[10:06] <rexbron> Aborted
[10:07] <sivik> antares79, not the same
[10:07] <CarlFK> sivik: dapper
[10:07] <Dr_willis> Tyk0s,  you may want to use the program 'burn at once' under windows - it makes burtning an .iso image easy.
[10:07] <Tyk0s> downloaded the swedish version and i burn it as a "bootable data disc"
[10:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: My fmask is 0111 and my dmask is 0000
[10:07] <antares79> sivik, what does it say instead?
[10:07] <sivik> Tyk0s, you can't do it that way, you have to burn as an image not as a file
[10:07] <sivik> antares79, let me get it to you
[10:07] <Adept2point0> Ok, something got messed up, after ctrl-alt-backspace, I go back to my Ubuntu login screen, which is in higher resolution, and I enter my login and password. After that, my screen clicks, but kicks me to command only. Again it asks for my login and pass, I enter it, and back to the ubuntu GUI log in, this goes back and forth, not every time verbatim, but the same routine. Eventually I find myself at the command screen only viewing
[10:07] <Adept2point0> brooks@brooks-desktop:~$
[10:07] <Adept2point0> and a blinking cursor, I don't know what I did or how to get back to my desktop.
[10:07] <rexbron> kitche: should i possibly file a bug?
[10:07] <jenda> antares79: thx
[10:07] <Tyk0s> okey, thx i try it out :)
[10:07] <Adept2point0> sorry wrong clipboard
[10:07] <xMorphix> Tyk0s: yeah bootable data won't auto boot up
[10:07] <sivik> Adept2point0, to get back, startx
[10:07] <Adept2point0> o.O
[10:08] <xMorphix> Tyk0s: Let me know
[10:08] <Adept2point0> startx at the command only screen?
[10:08] <Jack_Sparrow> I need to look up the difference..  DO you have more than 1 user defined
[10:08] <sivik> Adept2point0, yes
[10:08] <Bordoch> thanks anyway - regards
[10:08] <Adept2point0> won't it just put me back at the log in, and after trying to logging in, put me back to the command only?
[10:08] <Adept2point0> or startx runs the desktop
[10:08] <sivik> Adept2point0, it shouldn't if you have everything installed correctly
[10:09] <sivik> Adept2point0, startx should start the desktop
[10:09] <Adept2point0> so uhhh just type startx?
[10:09] <Adept2point0> seems too simple
[10:09] <Adept2point0> lol brb, and thanks a lot sivik
[10:09] <kjm> ReinH - it just stores config stuff (like for X11, apt, samba sshd etc.).  So, if needing a reinstall - you don't need to reconfig all of that stuff.  Mine is 16 MB right now, I partitioned it for 200 MB.
[10:09] <sivik> Adept2point0, yw
[10:09] <ReinH> kjm: gotcha, sounds like a good idea :)
[10:09] <kjm> ReinH - i mean /etc has about 16 MB of data.  It is pretty much all text files.
[10:10] <ReinH> kjm: I would assume you aren't dual booting?
[10:10] <sivik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24907
[10:10] <jdahm> I have a problem with my gnome desktop, the mouse keeps randomly disappearing, mostly on startup
[10:10] <Tyk0s> xMorphix, burning new cd atm. gonna try it out & tell if it worked or not :P
[10:11] <kjm> I am - Set up a extended parition for linux.  So, I have 2 primary partitions, and 1 extended one.  The extended partition is then partitioned into /etc/ /swap and /home.  Primary hda1 is windows and hda2 is /
[10:11] <antares79> thanks, sivik
[10:11] <sivik> antares79, thanks for what?
[10:11] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: i replaced all entries "with" the ntfs FS to fmask=0111,dmask=0000 is this correct, ps the original numbers are the only things i have changed
[10:11] <sivik> antares79, for giving you that url?
[10:11] <sivik> kjm: whats the problem
[10:11] <kjm> ReinH - it is a little more difficult to set up initially - but, I think it pays off in the end.
[10:11] <sivik> Tyk0s, are you burning it as in image
[10:11] <Tyk0s> yes
[10:12] <kjm> sivik - nothing - sorry - forgot to put persons name in front......was a response
[10:12] <antares79> sivik, please run "locale -a" in a console and check whether it says en_US.utf8 somewhere
[10:12] <sivik> kjm: ok
[10:13] <Tyk0s> Disc Image works fine?
[10:13] <sivik> Tyk0s, yes
[10:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: gksudo nautilus and see if you can browse to them
[10:13] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[10:13] <Tyk0s> great then im done :) brb trying it :)
[10:14] <sivik> antares79, paste.ubuntu-ul.org/24908
[10:14] <ReinH> kjm: and how big is your /swap partition? (and that's it for my questions for now, I believe) :)
[10:14] <asd> hello all, at our school we have ~900 kids. How can I put them all in the group audio and pmount, without having to write all the names in /etc/group?
[10:14] <ReinH> kjm: oh, one more: what tool do you use to partition?
[10:14] <antares79> thanks, sivik
[10:14] <kjm> ReinH - 1 GB - good rule of thumb is 1.5 x Physical ram.
[10:15] <jenda> ReinH: gparted is the best tool, IMO
[10:15] <sivik> kjm: yeah, thats smart
[10:15] <kjm> ReinH - I use gparted
[10:15] <sivik> kjm: i use 2 x but thats just me
[10:15] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: yes, I can browse them with gksudo nautilus although not as myself
[10:15] <ReinH> :)
[10:15] <jenda> I'm off, will be back (hopefully)
[10:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Ok at least you can pull what you need...
[10:15] <ReinH> this box has 512MB, so 1GB is no problem.
[10:15] <sivik> ReinH, thats good
[10:16] <ReinH> I'm actually planning on getting rid of windows on this box permanently once my laptop arrives (yay) :D
[10:16] <antares79> sivik... it complains about LC_COLLATE, yet you don't specify it explicitly anymore... except maybe in your ~/.bash_profile or something
[10:16] <jenda> Oh one more thing... what is the current easiest way of reinstalling grub/restoring MBR after a Win2k install?
[10:16] <ReinH> and I would put linux on it if I didn't want to play games :p
[10:16] <antares79> can you please run "set | grep LC_"? thanks
[10:16] <kjm> ReinH - yup.  2 of my machines are windowless.  It's just a shame that I need DirectX to shoot people when I'm in the mood :)
[10:16] <SurfnKid> can anyone help me setting a specific extension on firefox?
[10:16] <ReinH> kjm: indeed
[10:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Back to work for me..  play nice..
[10:17] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: nice one :) ...when  i do get what I want copied over fill formatting the drive be simple? and what fs type should i use..not ntfs anyway
[10:17] <sivik_> antares79, LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
[10:17] <ReinH> I see no reason to have windows on a dev box -- and a lot of reasons not to
[10:17] <Paddy_EIRE> *will
[10:17] <antares79> sivik: nothing else, just that one line?
[10:17] <sivik_> yes
[10:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: I dual boot so I have a fat32 to share..
[10:17] <antares79> that's good
[10:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Depends on your needs
[10:17] <ReinH> I really appreciate having such a supportive community, by the way :) makes me more confident in my choice of distro
[10:17] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: i have a SimplyMepis DVD that i would like to dual boot an try also
[10:17] <ReinH> cheers, folks, I'll be back once I get it up and running
[10:17] <sivik_> ReinH, good for you
[10:18] <SurfnKid> The RTSP extension (Real Player Streaming Protocol) when i click on the link, it says firefox doesnt have an associated program with it, so when i go to the View & Actions option, i cant find the extension to assign a program
[10:18] <sivik_> ReinH, and good luck with making a good choice
[10:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Mepis 6.0?
[10:18] <kjm> ReinH - good luck with it - see you in a few
[10:18] <ReinH> sivik_ ;)
[10:18] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: yep
[10:18] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: from linux magazine
[10:18] <Adept2point0> sivik: no luck, server error  something like fatal error 11 and aborted it
[10:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: You'll like it, I ran a Mepis box for years, I am always hanging in there, but the support is non-existent
[10:18] <sivik_> Adept2point0, that means you have to edit the xorg.conf file
[10:18] <jenda> Restoring MBR after windows install - anyone?
[10:18] <antares79> sivik, please run "sudo locale-gen"
[10:18] <tkfu> i'm trying to unmount a samba share that i mounted using smbmount, but umount says "the volume appears to be mounted multiple times"
[10:19] <antares79> what does it say about en_US.UTF-8?
[10:19] <tkfu> and mtab confirms that's the case
[10:19] <runes2006> is there a command to get ubuntu to redetect all hardware?
[10:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[10:19] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:19] <tkfu> how do i unmount?
[10:19] <ReinH> kjm: do you use gparted from a live cd?
[10:19] <sivik_> antares79, it just said up-to-date and then generation complete
[10:19] <SurfnKid> whats the firefox channel for help
[10:19] <jenda> ReinH: I just did. It's preinstalled there.
[10:19] <Adept2point0> whats the command to edit the xorg.conf file?
[10:19] <Adept2point0> and just what am i looking for
[10:19] <kjm> ReinH - ya - I always have a copy of Knoppix kicking around.
[10:19] <ReinH> kjm :)
[10:19] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: thx for the head start, gonna try Mepis and see what I think... I also have OpenSuse 10.1 and the latest freespire so I should have fun
[10:19] <kjm> ReinH - but, it is on the live CD install.
[10:19] <boitono> firefox crashes at random times with latest flash player installed from adobe, is there a known solution to this?
[10:19] <antares79> ok, sivik, so your locales are actually fine
[10:20] <Adept2point0> nvm, i think i got it
[10:20] <Paddy_EIRE> :) , have fun
[10:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: You know where to find me..
[10:20] <kjm> ReinH  - just select the "Manually edit partition table"
[10:20] <tkfu> anyone help me on how to unmount this thing?
[10:20] <Jack_Sparrow> cya
[10:20] <Paddy_EIRE> yep
[10:20] <sivik_> antares79, yeah, so why am i still getting that error
[10:20] <antares79> there's only one thing left that comes to my mind
[10:20] <runes2006> www.google.ca
[10:20] <runes2006> oops
[10:20] <sivik_> tkfu sudo umount /hardware/folderlocation
[10:20] <tkfu> thanks sivik_, but as i said, it's somehow mounted multiple times, so umount chokes
[10:20] <sivik_> how do i tell linux which .dm to use
[10:21] <sivik_> tkfu: what is it?
[10:21] <sivik_> tkfu: what type of device
[10:21] <antares79> sivik, sorry, at this point i don't have a clue... everything looks fine, except for the error message
[10:21] <sivik_> nvm, found it
[10:21] <tkfu> it's a samba share
[10:21] <sivik_> antares79, ok
[10:21] <wols> sivik_: under "options" in gdm for example
[10:21] <ReinH> I think I'm going to make a gparted live CD, sounds nice to have around
[10:21] <sivik_> antares79, thanks for the help
[10:21] <sivik_> wols: i found it
[10:21] <briank> does anyone know how to get omnifunc to work in VIM 7, I'm getting: E764: Option 'omnifunc' is not set
[10:21] <Iam8up|lpy> is there a way to install php4 via apt-get? all i get is php5 and i absolutly have to have 4
[10:22] <antares79> np, sivik. sorry
[10:22] <boitono> firefox crashes at random times with latest flash player installed from adobe, is there a known solution to this?
[10:22] <sivik_> Iam8up|lpy, do a apt-cache search php4
[10:22] <Iam8up|lpy> ReinH - a LOT
[10:22] <kjm> ReinH - has saved my bacon on numerous occasion.  ALthough - you can mount your physical drive from the Ubuntu install cd and run gparted
[10:22] <sivik_> Iam8up|lpy, and then do something along the lines of apt-get install php4-xxxxxx
[10:22] <ReinH> ah
[10:23] <Iam8up|lpy> sivik_ - jluthman@simba:~$ sudo apt-cache search php4
[10:23] <Iam8up|lpy> apache2-prefork-dev - development headers for apache2
[10:23] <kjm> But a gparted live cd is "specialized" for it - and easier to use (IMHO)
[10:24] <Iam8up|lpy> sivik_ - i did an update just before i did that command, too...should i add/uncomment a server to get php4?
[10:24] <sivik_> Iam8up|lpy, not sure
[10:24] <tkfu> for anyone interested, i solved my problem by doing sudo umount -a -t smbfs
[10:24] <sivik_> Iam8up|lpy, not sure, i don't do anything with php4, go to wiki.ubuntu.com and type php4
[10:24] <sivik_> tkfu: good for you
[10:24] <tkfu> that got around the hiccup umount was having trying to figure out which instance to unmount
[10:25] <Ych> is there something allready integrated into ubuntu so i can save cds or dvds as isos?
[10:25] <rexbron> can anyone identify whats wrong I get this when i rn glxgears
[10:26] <rexbron> glxgears: intel_ioctl.c:62: intelEmitIrqLocked: Assertion `((*(int *)intel->driHwLock) & ~0x40000000U) == (0x80000000U|intel->hHWContext)' failed.
[10:26] <rexbron> Aborted
[10:26] <boitono> Ych, dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/noob/dvd.iso
[10:26] <sivik_> rexbron, you probably don't have your drivers installed correctly
[10:26] <rexbron> hmm
[10:27] <WinterWeaver> !ntfs
[10:27] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[10:27] <rexbron> silvk_: I have an i915, the only change I have made recently is to reinstal meda
[10:27] <rexbron> mesa
[10:27] <runes2006> I've upgraded my machine but the motherboard and cpu are completely different from the original  how do I get ubuntu to redetect the new hardware?
[10:27] <sivik_> rexbron, then you haven't gotten the configuration correct yet
[10:28] <WinterWeaver> 1fuse
[10:28] <WinterWeaver> !fuse
[10:28] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[10:28] <sivik_> rexbron, not sure what to do, i don't have intel
[10:28] <rexbron> silvk_: where is mesa configured? xorg.conf
[10:28] <boitono> firefox crashes at random times with latest flash player installed from adobe, is there a known solution to this?
[10:28] <UCG> Does anyone here run zabbix???
[10:28] <sivik_> rexbron, yes
[10:29] <rexbron> brb
[10:29] <kjm> biotono - uninstall flash will be a solution.
[10:29] <xMorphix> sivik: people on #ubuntu-offtopic are mean :(
[10:29] <sivik_> xMorphix, i'm sorry, do you have another problem
[10:29] <boitono> kjm, is there an alvertative to flash?
[10:29] <kjm> boitono - nope.
[10:29] <wols> boitono: no
[10:30] <boitono> then that is not a solution
[10:30] <xMorphix> sivik: well i'm so new to linux, and I used ubuntu as my starting point
[10:30] <canute> Hi there, I was trying to install gnomad2, but then some error came up and it says that i should do "sudo apt-get -f install" however that also gives me an errror: http://pastebin.ca/183330
[10:30] <Ych> boitono, thankx
[10:30] <sivik_> xMorphix, good choice
[10:30] <xMorphix> sivik: whats my best bet to start learning the inner workings of linux
[10:30] <knoppix_> i am new to knoppix just wanted to say hi but i have to go so i can keep learning
[10:30] <wols> xMorphix: not using Ubuntu (seriously)
[10:30] <Ych> boitono, nice home directory ;)
[10:30] <sivik_> xMorphix, what do you mean by the inner working of linux?  like how it actually works or what?
[10:30] <kjm> boitono - it would stop the random crashes - hence a solution.  The new flash from Adobe is a hunk of garbage IMHO
[10:31] <boitono> Ych, you're welcome, I do what I can to lighten the mood ;-)
[10:31] <sivik_> kjm: thats true
[10:31] <xMorphix> sivik: yeah, just all the commands in terminal
[10:31] <wols> xMorphix: Ubuntu is a "just works" distro where tasks are done for you. you don't learn much this way. use several different distros, don't use wizards to configure them, edit config files. break lots of things, doe a LFS install (linux from scratch), etc
[10:31] <ReinH> one more question, what's the current relationship between ubuntu and debian sid?
[10:31] <briank>  I still can't get this to work, I'm in vim 7 and it says: E764: Option 'omnifunc' is not set when I hit Ctrl-x Ctrl-o, I am new to vim, can somebody help?
[10:31] <wols> xMorphix: console command reference is not learning the inner workings
[10:32] <xMorphix> wols: yeah, I have a few I am going to work around with
[10:32] <skoenman> hey people
[10:32] <ReinH> briank: /join #vim :)
[10:32] <xMorphix> wols: I know, i just like learning a little bit at a time
[10:32] <skoenman> does anybody know of a book i can download for ubuntu so i dont have to bug you guys the whole time???
[10:32] <wols> xMorphix: I gave you some pointers what to do
[10:32] <sivik_> wols; thats what i do, i'm break alot of stuff
[10:32] <kjm> skoenman - now that's no fun.
[10:32] <xMorphix> wols: I know, i'll use em thanks
[10:32] <skoenman> lol
[10:33] <wols> skoenman: ubuntu manual. and use google a lot with keyword "ubuntu"
[10:33] <Dr_willis> skoenman,  the ubuntu homepage has guides  - and theres always google. and tldp.org
[10:33] <xMorphix> sivik: linux is such a change from windows
[10:33] <sivik_> wols: yeah
[10:33] <sivik_> Dr_willis, what is tldp.org
[10:33] <wols> sivik_: but you ask here to fix it. you need to fix it on your own
[10:33] <xMorphix> sivik: whole new world
[10:33] <Somniis> skoenman: www.ubuntuguide.org
[10:33] <kjm> skoeman: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/282
[10:33] <xMorphix> wols: that's what this channel is for
[10:33] <Dr_willis> sivik_,  go there and find out.
[10:33] <sivik_> wols: actually, normally when i ask in here, i have already tried a bunch of stuff and searched around
[10:33] <wols> sivik_: the linux documentation project. can you just go there
[10:33] <rexbron> silvk_: its not giving me the error anymore, but performance in guild wars (with wine is really bad) Like it can not load the opening screen before having to refresh
[10:33] <skoenman> k
[10:33] <xMorphix> wols: isn't it?
[10:33] <wols> xMorphix: it is, but it's not good if you ewant to learn...
[10:33] <sivik_> Dr_willis, cool
[10:33] <xMorphix> Tyk0s: How did it work out for you?
[10:34] <Tyk0s> It worked fine :) thx for help :>
[10:34] <wols> xMorphix: no good when then others solve your problems.
[10:34] <xMorphix> wols: that is true
[10:34] <sivik_> xMorphix, very much so
[10:34] <skoenman> k cool
[10:34] <xMorphix> wols: linux right now for me, is like trying to read hebrew
[10:34] <runes> is there a way to force ubuntu to redetect all hardware?
[10:34] <sivik_> xMorphix, the best way to learn, is just to play with it
[10:34] <xMorphix> Tyk0s: Nice, so it booted up
[10:34] <Tyk0s> checked around a little bit :) seems really nice :D im windows user atm. but thinking on to try out linux for a while.. ubuntu good for beginners?
[10:35] <wols> runes: do you have problems?
[10:35] <xMorphix> Tyk0s: It is very user friendly
[10:35] <runes> wols, i swapped motherboard the only thing the same in this machine is the drive
[10:35] <Tyk0s> okok :) i'm a gamer aswell.. does world of warcraft, counter strike, warcraft 3 work fine threw Wine?
[10:36] <runes> wols, but the system did not redetect on boot
[10:36] <sivik_> runes, then it probably already regonized and did what it needed to for the new h/w
[10:36] <wols> runes: I didn't ask you that. I asked you: are there any psecific problems?
[10:36] <Tyk0s> threw,with take it as u wish :)
[10:36] <sivik_> Tyk0s, go to www.winehq.com and look there and you could always try cedege
[10:36] <runes> wols major slow downs
[10:36] <wols> Tyk0s: appdb.winehq.com
[10:36] <Tyk0s> hmm okey
[10:36] <wols> runes: of what? disk access?
[10:36] <sivik_> Tyk0s, wow works well with wine and there is a linux native for cs
[10:36] <runes> wols yes
[10:36] <wols> Tyk0s: and no, you won't be happy in linx as a gamer. stay in windows
[10:37] <Tyk0s> okey that's good.
[10:37] <runes> wols also video res too low
[10:37] <wols> for the vidoe: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:37] <sivik_> Tyk0s, thats why you dual boot
[10:37] <wols> disk would be busmaster dma
[10:37] <Tyk0s> hehe okey.
[10:37] <runes> wols bios enabed not sure in os though
[10:38] <wols> runes: dmesg will tell: "BM-DMA" usually
[10:38] <Tyk0s> so it slows down the computer even more with wine?
[10:38] <sivik_> Tyk0s, no, not always, i know ppl that say WoW runs better with wine than in windows
[10:38] <Tyk0s> hmm okey. i mainly play wow so
[10:39] <runes> wols vfs: busy inodes on changed media
[10:39] <wols> runes: huh?
[10:39] <sivik_> Tyk0s, i know like 4 ppl that play wow in linux and still dual boot and they just run in linux because it runs better, can't say that would be true with you, just what i have heard throught the grapevine
[10:39] <wols> Tyk0s: what videocard do you have?
[10:40] <runes> wols that is the message that scrolls off the screen when I run dmesg
[10:40] <Sivik> runes: yes, but the stuff that matters, that happened recently, happen at the bottom
[10:40] <wols> runes: dmesg|less
[10:40] <Tyk0s> got like 15-20fps on my computer :/ my computer: cpu: Intel Pentium 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2991MHz), mem: 1024MB, gfx: NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT
[10:40] <wols> Sivik: wrong in this case
[10:40] <Sivik> Tyk0s, nice card
[10:40] <serapio> hola
[10:40] <serapio> hola
[10:40] <darkanyel> hola
[10:40] <Sivik> wols: what case?
[10:41] <serapio> hola
[10:41] <LoRez> Warning: `darkanyel,serapio' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[10:41] <wols> runes's case
[10:41] <serapio> spanish
[10:41] <runes> wols and Sivik  exact same message
[10:41] <ladydoor> !es
[10:41] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:41] <Tyk0s> some of my friends doesnt have that good computer that i have but they have more fps then i can't understand it
[10:41] <serapio> thank
[10:41] <Sivik> wols: what case are you referring to
[10:41] <wols> Sivik: if he has busmaster dMA on his harddisks
[10:42] <Sivik> wols: i never said anything about busmaster dma or anything
[10:42] <Sivik> wols: i was just telling him that i know ppl that say WoW runs better in linux than in windows
[10:42] <wols>  Sivik> runes: yes, but the stuff that matters, that happened recently, happen at the bottom <- that's what you said. and for people looking at BM-DMA this is WRONG.
[10:42] <wols> Sivik: and runes isn't trying to run WoW
[10:43] <runes> wols and Sivik nope same message all the way to the <end>
[10:43] <CrimsonKing> I've locked myself out of a remote (server) box, but am able to execute commands under the web server user.
[10:43] <Sivik> wols: i don't remember sending runes a message
[10:43] <wols> runes: you use the command wrong. dmesg | less
[10:43] <CrimsonKing> does anyone know of a way to edit the inetd.conf file as the web user?
[10:43] <CrimsonKing> I have the root password and whatnot
[10:43] <UKMatt> hey, does anyone know a link that shows you how to install a .tar.gz
[10:43] <CrimsonKing> but its a default webuser setup
[10:43] <wols> Sivik: then scroll up
[10:43] <runes> sec
[10:43] <wols> CrimsonKing: why would you do that?
[10:44] <Sivik> wols: all i was talking about that new stuff that happens in the dmesg is at the bottem, i didn't know he was talking about the dm stuff
[10:44] <CrimsonKing> wols: because I've messed up my inetd.conf
[10:44] <bimberi> CrimsonKing: 'su -' and the root password will get you a root login shell
[10:44] <lupine_85> su root if you have the root passsword
[10:44] <ladydoor> UKMatt: are you trying to install a program from source?
[10:44] <CrimsonKing> not realizing it ran my sshd, i've ran it to localhost
[10:44] <runes> wols, nope exactly as shown with a space betwween the commang and argument
[10:44] <Justy-> hello
[10:44] <wols> CrimsonKing: unfortunate but what has that to do with the "web user"?
[10:44] <Sivik> sorry if i screwed up, i'm just trying to help
[10:44] <Tyk0s> hard to configure wine then?
[10:44] <CrimsonKing> wols: because i have a php script
[10:44] <UKMatt> ladydoor, mmm, i don't think it's the source code, but it's a tarball
[10:44] <wols> runes: what do you press for the "|" ?
[10:44] <CrimsonKing> wols: that i can run system() command with
[10:44] <runes> |
[10:45] <Justy-> question: how can i copy "a folder with its subfolders and subfiles" to somewhere
[10:45] <Sivik> Tyk0s, ?
[10:45] <ladydoor> UKMatt: ??? is it a binary package then? if so, there should be instructions on the websit...
[10:45] <ladydoor> *website
[10:45] <CrimsonKing> i've tried echo mypassword | sudo -S su, but it won't take the password
[10:45] <wols> CrimsonKing: you can't
[10:45] <lupine_85> Justy: cp -a
[10:45] <wols> CrimsonKing: can't you log in?
[10:45] <Justy-> lupine_85, thanks
[10:45] <Tyk0s> Sivik, how does it work then? load the .exe file in ure wow dic?
[10:45] <CrimsonKing> wols: no, my sshd has been locked down to localhost alone
[10:45] <Tyk0s> dir*
[10:45] <Sivik> Tyk0s, wine /location/of/setup.exe
[10:45] <runes> wols lspci shows the controllers correctly
[10:46] <wols> CrimsonKing: what good does a sshd for localhost?
[10:46] <wols> runes: what do you press for the "|" ?
[10:46] <CrimsonKing> wols: exactly dude
[10:46] <Sivik> wols: how do i change hat port ssh uses
[10:46] <CrimsonKing> wols: so i need to fix my hosts.allow
[10:46] <wols> runes: the command would display one screen of dmesg output at a time
[10:46] <CrimsonKing> wols: so i need to fix my hosts.allow from my web user account
[10:46] <ladydoor> wols: it should be above the backslash on american english keyboards, i think
[10:47] <runes> wols [17503394.324000]  VFS: busy inodes on changed media.
[10:47] <wols> Sivik: /etc/ssh/sshd_config IIRC
[10:47] <Sivik> wols: the school seems to have blocked port 22 but they haven't blocked port 80 yet, i will just move my ssh to that port
[10:47] <wols> CrimsonKing: another root only file
[10:47] <runes> wols I am not using the separated pipe
[10:47] <CrimsonKing> wols: right, so all i need to do is gain access and edit the file in one command
[10:47] <wols> fyrestrtr: you could maybe search for a cgi or php based "shell" which works via webbrowser
[10:47] <CrimsonKing> wols: from the web user account
[10:47] <runes> wols I am using the |
[10:47] <darkanyel> how can i erease all the programs that i installed in ubuntu and return to the default configuration???
[10:48] <CrimsonKing> wols: its not like i don't have the root password
[10:48] <fredrik> hi
[10:48] <Sivik> CrimsonKing, if you need to edit a root only file, start the computer into the recovery console from the grub menu
[10:48] <wols> CrimsonKing: you ALWAYS need to give the password when doing sudo...
[10:48] <CrimsonKing> Sivik: its about 2000 miles away
[10:48] <Justy-> hello
[10:48] <wols> CrimsonKing: and you can't enter that with system()
[10:48] <Sivik> CrimsonKing, then you sudo su to be a root onto that machine
[10:48] <ktogias> darkanyel, why do you want to do such a thing?
[10:48] <CrimsonKing> wols: if my www-data user could sudo i could do it
[10:48] <fredrik> can someone tell me how to configure my wireless pc card please
[10:48] <Sivik> CrimsonKing, or you can sudo whateveryouaredoing and then use the password
[10:48] <Justy-> question: how can i chmod a folder with its subfolders and subfiles?
[10:48] <jozzeph> hello i have problems with my java
[10:48] <wols> darkanyel: reinstall
[10:48] <Sivik> fredrik, what brand card?
[10:48] <runes> wols to the right side shift button there is the separated pipe when I hit shift and the key it gives me |
[10:48] <jozzeph> span.lev1 { display: block; cursor: pointer; cursor: hand; position: absolute; top: -10px; left: -10px; width: 200px; height: 100px;}
[10:48] <darkanyel> ktogias, i think that i installed lots of stupid rhings
[10:49] <wols> Justy-: man chmod
[10:49] <fredrik> netgear wg511T
[10:49] <jozzeph> whats wrong with java and ubuntu?
[10:49] <darkanyel> ktogias, i wanna restart all!!!
[10:49] <Sivik> fredrik, not sure
[10:49] <wols> runes: ok, seems to be right, but then why wouldn't it use less?
[10:49] <Justy-> wols, naah thanks =( and sorry it is too late here
[10:49] <wols> runes: maybe try dmesg |grep BM
[10:49] <CrimsonKing> Sivik: i'm doing this from a php script executing under the www-data
[10:49] <runes> wol good question it keeps saying that it is busy
[10:49] <runes> and yes I am su root
[10:49] <jozzeph> problems with java ever since fedora
[10:49] <Sivik> CrimsonKing, not sure, i will shut up
[10:49] <CrimsonKing> sudo won't allow the www-data user to su
[10:50] <ktogias> darkanyel, Having progs installed does not harm the system, except the space on the disk that they occupate...
[10:50] <wols> runes: wouldn't matter here
[10:50] <runes> oh ok
[10:50] <jozzeph> sometimes my java works
[10:50] <wols> runes: WHAT is busy?
[10:50] <jozzeph> then suddenly java dont work anymore
[10:50] <whaley> jozzeph: what is wrong with it?
[10:50] <whaley> what specifically
[10:50] <wols> CrimsonKing: then su would
[10:50] <fredrik> sivik, do you think it is a driver matter
[10:50] <jozzeph> whats wrong with java and ubunbtu/linuz...
[10:50] <Sivik> fredrik, not sure
[10:51] <CrimsonKing> wols: su's problem is it says 'it must be run from a terminal'
[10:51] <whaley> jozzeph: are you using sun's jvm?
[10:51] <CrimsonKing> wols: meaning i can't pass my password in through STDIN
[10:51] <Sivik> jozzeph, i don't have any problem with using the java plugin from apt-get
[10:51] <jozzeph> i tried 2 different whaley
[10:51] <fredrik> ok, is there any one else out there do u think
[10:51] <wols> !wireless > fredrik
[10:51] <Sivik> fredrik, probably
[10:51] <fredrik> yes
[10:51] <darkanyel> ktogias,:S
[10:51] <Sivik> fredrik, chick the ubuntuforum.org i think is the url
[10:51] <runes> wols busy inodes on cahnged mesia
[10:51] <jozzeph> i [;ay a java game 'runesca[e'
[10:51] <whaley> jozzeph: which 2 jvm's, and what particular error(s) are you getting?
[10:51] <jozzeph> i play a java game runsescape
[10:51] <runes> wols busy inodes on changed media
[10:51] <darkanyel> ktogias, but is a way to do that?
[10:51] <fredrik> ok thanks
[10:52] <jozzeph> eh i will tell in a few
[10:52] <fredrik> wols, you seemed to have a clue, is it so
[10:52] <CSWookie_> Hey folks.  I'm trying to install Dapper on my desktop computer, and it hangs when I try to set the keyboard layout.
[10:53] <jozzeph> i think the best is jre2 as told in the unofficial guide
[10:53] <CSWookie_> Anybody heard of this problem?
[10:53] <Sivik> CSWookie_, are you choosing the right one
[10:53] <jozzeph> the other is wrapper or something like that
[10:53] <CSWookie_> Sivik: I'm using the default, American English.
[10:53] <Sivik> CSWookie_, not sure then
[10:53] <jozzeph> i have 1 java from easy ubuntu i think
[10:53] <wols> fredrik: check what chip that wifi card usesu (if it's via pci: lspci -v) and then check if ubuntu supports that chip
[10:53] <ktogias> darkanyel, I do not know if there is a way to automatically uninstall all the progs you have installed after the installation... But you can uninstall any specific prog you do not need anymore through synaptic or from console with apt-get remove
[10:53] <jozzeph> and the other of dapper gyude
[10:53] <jozzeph> guide
[10:54] <wols> fredrik: brand names like netgesr mean nothing
[10:54] <runes> wols hdparm shows dma is on
[10:54] <wols> runes: busmaster dma. different thing. basically the proper driver for the ide chipset
[10:54] <runes> wols (I used the ubuntu guide to check that)
[10:54] <Sivik> jozzeph, at this poing of time, they might be interacting weird
[10:54] <runes> wols ok not sure about that one
[10:54] <Sivik> jozzeph, and that might cause a problem
[10:54] <fredrik> wols, do i check the cip in the terminal
[10:54] <wols> runes: and: the media message thing is about remvable media like CDs. not harddisk
[10:54] <jozzeph> should i reinstall ubuntu for my java?
[10:55] <CrimsonKing> can I use sudo to switch to another non-root user in ubuntu?
[10:55] <wols> fredrik: I already told you. lspci
[10:55] <CrimsonKing> without needing proper sudo su access
[10:55] <runes> wols ver weird
[10:55] <wols> CrimsonKing: no
[10:55] <wols> runes: what happens if you do "dmesg > output"
[10:55] <darkanyel> ktogias, i tried to unistall cedega, but there are rests of that!
[10:55] <Sivik> CrimsonKing, your using ssh right, you have to log in with that use to use a different one
[10:55] <wols> runes:  and then upload the file here:
[10:55] <wols> !paster
[10:55] <jozzeph> why java worked at the beginning and then stopped without any change?
[10:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:56] <wols> !paste
[10:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:56] <wols> to this paste url
[10:56] <ucordes> maybe you will laugh about this problem, but when i try to put things in my personal folder icon on the desktop it says no such folder. but i can open it. how can i solve this?
[10:56] <CrimsonKing> Sivik: dude you might have given me the answer
[10:56] <jozzeph> i used the same things as before but java stopped suddenly
[10:56] <jozzeph> so why
[10:56] <CrimsonKing> lets see how php handles a php system call which ssh's to the localhost host as myself, runs a sudo which runs a command
[10:56] <Sivik> CrimsonKing, yw
[10:56] <runes> !paste
[10:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:57] <Sivik> jozzeph, have you upgraded anything recently?
[10:57] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: i think you can su to another user--just not, by default, root
[10:57] <daxxar> Anyone know if, after generating a lircd.conf from irrecord, I can teach it a single new button? (Same remote)
[10:57] <jozzeph> eh upgrade didnt influence it
[10:57] <CrimsonKing> ladydoor: can you verify that for me, maybe?
[10:57] <CrimsonKing> (please?)
[10:57] <daxxar> Seems like I have to run irrecord from scratch and reteach it everything.
[10:57] <rfabrino2> fala fi
[10:57] <CrimsonKing> ladydoor: i don't have any ubuntu boxes except for this server
[10:57] <jozzeph> it helped when i restarted my browser sometimes
[10:58] <jozzeph> so thats strange isnt it
[10:58] <bthornton> How is the data for all of the launchers in the GNOME menu stored on the disk?  Is it one file, or is it structured in directories with a file for each launcher?
[10:58] <jozzeph> java did work but not completely sometimes
[10:59] <jozzeph> now it works too but i cannot fill in my username for the game
[10:59] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: yup, it definitely works.
[10:59] <bthornton> And, whether it's one file or a series of a directory, where is the data located?
[10:59] <jozzeph> i have a lot of error messages in java console
[10:59] <CrimsonKing> ladydoor: ha! that is awesome, you are my hero.
[11:00] <jozzeph> it seems java doesnt understand the mouse moving
[11:00] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: why thank you! i've never been a hero just for doing a small favor, but that works i guess
[11:00] <Sivik> lol
[11:00] <jozzeph> on a text field
[11:00] <wols> ladydoor: su to another user without giving a password?
[11:00] <ladydoor> wols: you do have to give a password
[11:00] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: you do have to give a password, though
[11:00] <jozzeph> java worked at first with mozilla
[11:00] <wols> exactly
[11:00] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: *that user's* password
[11:01] <ladydoor> wols: oh, was that the question?
[11:01] <ladydoor> wols: whoops
[11:01] <jozzeph> but not with firefox
[11:01] <CrimsonKing> ladydoor: its fine, i have a password
[11:01] <wols> ladydoor: stuff with questionmarks at the end usually are
[11:01] <jenda> What is the best way to restore GRUB?
[11:01] <CrimsonKing> ladydoor: you did sudo su <usernamehere> right?
[11:01] <wols> CrimsonKing: how wil you enter that password?
[11:01] <jozzeph> so i removed mozilla
[11:01] <CrimsonKing> sudo accepts -S
[11:01] <ladydoor> wols: no, i mean i was wondering if that was *his* password
[11:01] <CrimsonKing> whcih takes input from standard input
[11:01] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: no, just su username
[11:01] <CrimsonKing> ugh
[11:01] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: and then enter that user's password
[11:01] <CrimsonKing> yea that i can't do, evermind
[11:01] <jozzeph> i will reinstall ubuntu for the 20th time
[11:01] <CrimsonKing> su needs its own terminal
[11:02] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: why?
[11:02] <jozzeph> and first remove mozilla
[11:02] <CrimsonKing> ladydoor: because i don't actually have a terminal
[11:02] <CrimsonKing> all i have is a php script
[11:02] <jozzeph> then install java
[11:02] <jozzeph> jre2
[11:02] <CrimsonKing> which i can enter random system() commands in
[11:02] <jozzeph> maybe it will work
[11:02] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: well, let me try sudo su
[11:02] <CrimsonKing> which means now i'm going to try ssh'ing to localhost with my password than sudo su'ing
[11:02] <wols> ladydoor: he has a server 2000miles away but removed remote ssh login
[11:02] <CrimsonKing> ladydoor: aye, couldn't hurt
[11:02] <ladydoor> wols: wow
[11:02] <CrimsonKing> not likely though
[11:02] <CrimsonKing> since i know how it works
[11:02] <runes> wols pastebin tells me no text given when I paste the results of the file
[11:02] <CrimsonKing> i didn't know inetd powers ubuntu's sshd
[11:03] <wols> runes: how big is the file?
[11:03] <CrimsonKing> but you can bet i do now
[11:03] <wols> runes: maybe check your kern.log instead
[11:03] <wols> runes: or reboot and on bootup use dmesg |less
[11:03] <oi_2_filoi> hi any china girl?
[11:03] <runes> wols 124052
[11:03] <whurley> anyone seen issues with Ubuntu server and installing on a dual proc box?
[11:03] <Sh4d0x> hi there new ubuntu user
[11:03] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: you can use sudo su to become another user
[11:03] <jenda> How can I restore GRUB after a windows install?
[11:03] <jozzeph> IE\:clientCaps {behavior:url(#default#clientcaps)}
[11:03] <jozzeph> what does that mean?
[11:04] <wols> !grub > jenda
[11:04] <Sh4d0x> !grub > jenda
[11:04] <CrimsonKing> ladydoor: right, but my web user can't use sudo su to become root
[11:04] <jenda> thx
[11:04] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: right, but you can become another user with it...
[11:04] <runes> wols I though there was a way to force the kernel to redetect al hardware not sure what that command was
[11:04] <CrimsonKing> ladydoor: even if you don't have the usual root privledges?
[11:04] <jozzeph> and: span.lev1 { display: block; cursor: pointer; cursor: hand; position: absolute; top: -10px; left: -10px; width: 200px; height: 100px;}
[11:04] <runes> modprobe?
[11:04] <jenda> (and now... how do I switch tabs in irssi?)
[11:04] <Neo8750> alt+#
[11:04] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: *shrug*. can you use sudo at all?
[11:05] <CrimsonKing> ladydoor: not on this user.
[11:05] <jenda> Neo8750: that switches the terminal tabs
[11:05] <CrimsonKing> (problably)
[11:05] <Neo8750> or ctrl +n/ctrl+p
[11:05] <ladydoor> jenda: or alt+n/alt+p
[11:05] <wols> runes: not the kernel
[11:05] <jenda> ok
[11:05] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: oh. :-(
[11:05] <CrimsonKing> i don't know what ubuntu's defaults are for the www-user
[11:05] <jozzeph> and: .r1 td { background-color: #362D1A; font-weight; bold; }
[11:05] <CrimsonKing> hence here i am
[11:05] <wols> runes: man discover such perhaps
[11:05] <jmitchj> having a prob getting a commercial DVD to play...can anyone help?
[11:05] <jozzeph> all marked as errors
[11:05] <Neo8750> jenda: you need to redo the terminal key binds or alter irssi's
[11:05] <wols> CrimsonKing: www-data probably
[11:05] <ladydoor> jenda: are you on gnome-terminal or something?
[11:05] <b_52Centos> do you know any game like quake3 under ubuntu ??
[11:06] <jozzeph> pffff
[11:06] <wols> CrimsonKing: and that user should not have a shell or a home directory afaik
[11:06] <CrimsonKing> wols: i don't need either ;)
[11:06] <Paddy_EIRE> how would I unmount "/dev/hdb1 /dev/hdb2 /dev/hdb3" these are three ntfs partitions that I intend on formatting..
[11:06] <ladydoor> b_52Centos: do apt-cache search quake...i think you'll find something interesting...
[11:06] <wols> b_52Centos: Wolfenstein Enemy Territory is free
[11:06] <CrimsonKing> I am going to see if the www-data can ssh to localhost
[11:06] <CrimsonKing> that seems to be the best plan of attack right now
[11:06] <CrimsonKing> assuming i can pass a password to ssh on stdin
[11:06] <NemesisUK> b_52Centos, quake3 and 4 ut2004 loads of native linux games
[11:06] <wols> Paddy_EIRE: umount /dev/hdb1
[11:07] <Paddy_EIRE> great
[11:07] <jenda> OK, thx. solved.
[11:07] <jmitchj> having a prob getting a commercial DVD to play...can anyone help?
[11:07] <b_52Centos> wols,  do you know which miror i can find it ?
[11:07] <ladydoor> !repeat
[11:07] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:07] <msivanich> I just installed the phpmyadmin, what is the default username and password?
[11:07] <ladydoor> !codecs
[11:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:07] <runes> wols going to try the reboot
[11:07] <wols> b_52Centos: not part of ubuntu but just google it
[11:07] <ladydoor> jmitchj: ^^^
[11:07] <wols> runes: I will soon go to bed btw
[11:07] <b_52Centos> wols ok :d
[11:08] <Paddy_EIRE> Would everyone recommend using "gksudo qtparted" for formatting drives
[11:08] <runes> ok got it
[11:08] <wols> Paddy_EIRE: no. I recommend the proper mkfs.* for thzat
[11:08] <Paddy_EIRE> wols: what do you mean
[11:08] <wols> Paddy_EIRE: man mkfs.ext3
[11:09] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[11:09] <peace-keeper> hi my ubuntu is about half as fast as win xp, and i think my kernel (2.6.15-27-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT) may be wrong for my cpu (athlon 500). where can i get another kernel ?
[11:09] <Paddy_EIRE> wols: is there no GUI way of doing this
[11:09] <Sivik> peace-keeper, thats probably not a kernel issue
[11:09] <Paddy_EIRE> wols: whay not qtparted
[11:10] <Paddy_EIRE> *why
[11:10] <peace-keeper> hmm any idea what it could be? everything is terribly slow
[11:10] <Sivik> peace-keeper, how much swap did you create?
[11:10] <peace-keeper> dont know, but i have 768mb ram
[11:10] <ladydoor> Paddy_EIRE: because it's easier to give command-line instructions
[11:11] <Locke> anyone have an idea how to get a mdf/mds to convert to iso when mdf2iso says unknown format
[11:11] <CrimsonKing> failure, can't stdin a password to ssh
[11:11] <Locke> i am pretty sure the file is good
[11:11] <Sivik> peace-keeper, you should have made your swap about 1.5 - 2 times that of your ram
[11:11] <Locke> it successfully extracted from a rar i got from bittorrent
[11:11] <CrimsonKing> can i set up some form of a ssh tunnel though, if i ssh into my home-box
[11:11] <Sivik> CrimsonKing, you should be able to
[11:11] <peace-keeper> i didnt change sny swap setting during setup.. how can swap be an issue when i have a lot of ram ?
[11:12] <CrimsonKing> Sivik: except i'd need an account with no password on the remote box, since ssh can't prompt for a password
[11:12] <peace-keeper> oh i just found it.. i have 2gb swap
[11:12] <CrimsonKing> UGH
[11:12] <Sivik> ok, then thats not a problem
[11:12] <Sivik> CrimsonKing, you can createa a user via ssh using the adduser command and you don't have to have a password
[11:12] <Sivik> when you create that user
[11:13] <peace-keeper> even changing directory takes a few seconds.. starting firefox almost a minute.. it's unusable :(
[11:13] <CrimsonKing> Sivik: aye, thanks
[11:13] <CrimsonKing> was doing tha tnow
[11:13] <Sivik> CrimsonKing, yw
[11:13] <Sivik> peace-keeper, not sure what to tell you, how big of a hd is it?
[11:13] <msivanich> whats the default user name and password for /quit
[11:13] <peace-keeper> 60 gb
[11:13] <red_Marvin> Can anybody tell me why my _old_ laptop sets a resolution that isn't listed at all in xorg.conf and how to fix it?
[11:13] <Paddy_EIRE> ladydoor: I personally would rather use a gui, what would be good to use
[11:14] <peace-keeper> someone told me my kernel might be wrong
[11:14] <Sivik> peace-keeper, did you add anything weird
[11:14] <Justy-> Good night all!
[11:14] <peace-keeper> not that i know of :D
[11:14] <ladydoor> Paddy_EIRE: gparted, if you *must* point-and-click rather than copy-and-paste
[11:14] <Sivik> peace-keeper, not sure, you installed a i386 kernel right
[11:14] <Sivik> peace-keeper, check man /proc/version
[11:15] <peace-keeper> Linux version 2.6.15-27-k7 (buildd@terranova) (gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)) #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 02:35:20 UTC 2006
[11:15] <Sivik> that shouldn't be an issue
[11:15] <peace-keeper> is k7 right for athlon 500 ?
[11:15] <peace-keeper> i know it's an old cpu, but still win xp is about twice as fast :(
[11:15] <ladydoor> Paddy_EIRE: or qtparted, i guess
[11:16] <Sivik> peace-keeper, not sure, i always just install the standard 2.6.15-27
[11:16] <wols> Paddy_EIRE: yes
[11:16] <wols> Paddy_EIRE: probably BM DMA is not set. at least that's possibility
[11:16] <peace-keeper> is there a place where i can download another kernel to try that?
[11:16] <wols> Paddy_EIRE: also run "top" to see if something is eatme CPU
[11:16] <Sivik> peace-keeper, should be fine
[11:16] <CrimsonKing> ugh, i can just see this ending with me getting kicked off of my home box too
[11:17] <Paddy_EIRE> ladydoor: i deleted the first partition in qtparted and I have no option to delete the others?? gonna try gparted now
[11:17] <Sivik> CrimsonKing, as long as your don't reboot or shutdown you should be fine
[11:17] <CrimsonKing> Sivik: i'm not local on my home box either
[11:17] <peace-keeper> kay, then i have to stay with win xp :(
[11:17] <CrimsonKing> Sivik: i'm at school
[11:18] <Sivik> CrimsonKing, so, as long as you don't shut it down or reboot it, you can always relogin to that machine via ssh
[11:18] <exarkun> /etc/security/limits.conf seems to be ignored.  I tried changed "nofile" to 8192 with it, but my limit is still 1024.  What am I missing?
[11:19] <CrimsonKing> ha!
[11:19] <CrimsonKing> i'm in anyways
[11:19] <CrimsonKing> well my home machine
[11:19] <CrimsonKing> with empty password
[11:19] <Sivik> CrimsonKing, then there shouldn't be a problem
[11:19] <CrimsonKing> Sivik: the problem was I had to modify my sshd config to allow passwords, AND empty passwords
[11:19] <CrimsonKing> which is what scared me
[11:20] <Sivik> lol
[11:20] <Sivik> i bet
[11:20] <whurley> any one out there running Ubuntu server on dual opterons?
[11:20] <CrimsonKing> because THAT box has no monitor
[11:20] <Sivik> that might be important
[11:20] <Sivik> whurley, good choice on cpus
[11:20] <CrimsonKing> so if i screw up my ssh on THAT box i have to fix it blind
[11:20] <kalif> CrimsonKing: empty passphrases is a better way to go
[11:20] <whurley> Sivik: thanks, however I can't get the install cd to work
[11:20] <whurley> :)
[11:20] <CrimsonKing> kalif: this is just temporary as I try and ssh tunnel a port from a php script to my box so i can see from localhost.
[11:20] <Paddy_EIRE> GParted Rocks
[11:20] <Sivik> whurley, are you able to boot with it?
[11:21] <hahafaha> Does anyone have any experience using Dapper LTS on Dell Latitude C600?
[11:21] <kalif> ok
[11:21] <xprment626> does the ubuntu livecd support the bcm43xx series wireless cards by default?
[11:21] <Sivik> hahafaha, what are you trying to do?
[11:21] <Sivik> xprment626, no
[11:21] <Shadowpillar> brb
[11:21] <Sivik> xprment626, after you install it, you have to download the firmware
[11:21] <hahafaha> Sivik, I have already installed it on the computer.
[11:21] <CrimsonKing> what am i trying to do?
[11:21] <Sivik> hahafaha, ok, then whats the issue?
[11:21] <whurley> Sivik: yes, it boots to the install option screens but freezes when trying to boot the kernel. I'm looking for boot options that might result in success, btu haven't found anything
[11:21] <hahafaha> Sivik: it works fine but occasionally seems to overheat
[11:21] <xprment626> Sivik, I want a CD that I can just use whenever I need it (LiveCD) without having to install anything :-(
[11:22] <hahafaha> Sivik: I have heard that this is a common issue with the hardware. Is there a way to manually control the fan?
[11:22] <Sivik> xprment626, but you won't have wireless
[11:22] <xMorphix> xprment626: download one
[11:22] <xMorphix> sivik: not like it matters, all wirless downloads at 210 b/s :P
[11:22] <xMorphix> wireless*
[11:22] <wols> xprment626: no
[11:22] <Sivik> xMorphix, no their not
[11:22] <xMorphix> sivik: I know, lol
[11:22] <xprment626> I need wireless though ...
[11:22] <hahafaha> Sivik: (or in any other way control power management by hand, so that it does not overheat?
[11:23] <wols> xprment626: ndiswrapper
[11:23] <xMorphix> hahafaha: what is the question? fan control?
[11:23] <Sivik> hahafaha, are you using the stock fans?
[11:23] <xprment626> vols, yeah ,but then I need to create a custom livecd, etc.
[11:23] <Tom39Away> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/knot-3/edgy-alternate-i386.iso is 702M and I can't seem to burn it.  I get an error because it's larger than 700M.
[11:23] <CrimsonKing> anyone here an ssh tunnel wizzard?
[11:23] <Sivik> Tom39Away, are you burning as an iso imsage or a file
[11:23] <wols> Tom39Away: get a better burn program. use nero
[11:23] <zjohnson> how does one make a binary dpkg from a source dpkg?
[11:23] <hahafaha> xMorphix: Yes
[11:24] <Tom39Away> wols, I'm using Dapper's burner.
[11:24] <hahafaha> Sivik: what do you mean?
[11:24] <xMorphix> hahafaha: What computer are you using?
[11:24] <Tom39Away> Sivik, I'm burning that ISO file to a CD.
[11:24] <Sivik> hahafaha, what fans are you using?
[11:24] <wols> zjohnson: there are no "source dpkgs". the program to use is dpkg-buildpackage
[11:24] <hahafaha> xMorphix: Dell Latitutde C600
[11:24] <Sivik> Tom39Away, you have to tell the problem to burn as a image and not as a file
[11:24] <zjohnson> wols: ok thanks..
[11:24] <wols> Tom39Away: look for overburn support
[11:24] <Sivik> hahafaha, the ones that came with the cpus or what?
[11:24] <mo^> whats the command to minimize all windows? (in xfce)
[11:24] <hahafaha> Sivik: Yes
[11:24] <hahafaha> Sivik: The ones that are built into the compy
[11:24] <Tom39Away> wols, that's what I'm doing here.
[11:24] <habeeb> I'm getting a really cool problem :P I can see fglrx and direct rendering working alright, when running fglrxinfo and glxinfo as root, but they would give me errors as the normal user.
[11:25] <habeeb> Errors like these:
[11:25] <habeeb> libGL error: failed to open DRM: Operation not permitted
[11:25] <habeeb> libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering
[11:25] <Sivik> hahafaha, you might want to try to get some better fans and see if that helps, i don't think its a control of the speed that you can control
[11:25] <Sivik> hahafaha, stock fans suck
[11:25] <Sivik> zjohnson, apt-get source filename
[11:25] <wols> Sivik: newer intel mbos can. some amd ones too
[11:25] <hahafaha> Sivik: OK, thanks.
[11:25] <whitedeth> oh god, someone please help me play MP3s through Rhytmbox? :(
[11:25] <wols> Sivik: eg. mne (AN7 Abit)
[11:26] <ladydoor> !codecs
[11:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:26] <Tom39Away> Sivik, how do I tell a problem to burn as an image?  I'm right clicking on the ISO file in Nautilis and selecting "Write to Disc".
[11:26] <Sivik> wols: i understand that
[11:26] <zjohnson> siv: awesome
[11:26] <Bladesonfire> Can anyone help me with a WPA problem I'm having? I can connect to a D-link router using WPA-PSK at home, but not a Belkin router
[11:26] <Sivik> Tom39Away, download k3b and tell it to burn an image, that just copies the actual file over
[11:26] <lcohen> good afternoon all, I have a KitchenSync-Opensync issue, I am syncing with a SyncML server, I setup everything as mest I could, I hit sync now and I get connected with my Evolution plugin, but the SyncML does not leave 'Ready' any thoughts?
[11:26] <Bladesonfire> If I turn WPA encryption off on the Belkin router, I can then connect
[11:26] <Bladesonfire> I'm using IPW2200 and networkmanager to connect
[11:26] <Tom39Away> But I don't want the ISO file on the disc, I want the uncompressed files.
[11:27] <lewix>  ive unplugged my headphones and I can't hear any sound on my speaker now
[11:27] <Sivik> Tom39Away, that what happens when you burn it as an image
[11:27] <lewix> i don't know what's going on
[11:27] <teenprogrammer> Hi
[11:27] <lcohen> Bladesonfire: I continue to have issues with WPA and Ubuntu, sometimes it may take 2 or 3 times to connect....
[11:27] <xMorphix> lewix: I am always lost
[11:27] <Tom39Away> So Dapper can't natively burn ISO files to discs?  I have to install additional software, this "k3b" you mention?
[11:27] <wols> Sivik: you do know that a latitude is a notebook? ever changed fans on those?
[11:27] <Sivik> xMorphix, lol
[11:27] <xMorphix> lewix: so whats the problem?
[11:27] <s_v_e_n> !codecs
[11:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:27] <lewix> xMorphix, I don't know
[11:27] <Bladesonfire> lcohen, thanks, but I've never been able to connect to this router when encryption is on
[11:27] <ladydoor> Tom39Away: or bashburn...
[11:27] <Sivik> wols: then how is he running dual opterons on a laptop?
[11:28] <lewix> xMorphix, Im trying to listen to some music
[11:28] <Bladesonfire> Would you know if using ndiswrapper would help my situation?
[11:28] <ladydoor> Tom39Away: and it *can* do it natively--via the commandline
[11:28] <lewix> xMorphix, that's it
[11:28] <xMorphix> lewix: did you restart your computer?
[11:28] <lewix> do i have to ?
[11:28] <lcohen> I don't think so, if you have IPW2200, then you shouldn't need the wrapper
[11:28] <lewix> damnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[11:28] <xMorphix> ladydoor: when did you sneak in?
[11:28] <lewix> linux sucks somewhat
[11:28] <lcohen> linux and wpa are not the best of friends
[11:28] <Tom39Away> ladydoor, what program does Nautilis use on the Right Click --> Write to Disc option?
[11:28] <Sivik> lewix, then don't use it
[11:28] <PWill> lewix: nuh-uh
[11:28] <Bladesonfire> That's what I was thinking... I can't find anything on Google why I wouldn't be able to connect to this Belkin router
[11:28] <lcohen> does teh Belkin support WPA2
[11:28] <wols> Sivik: dual opterons on a dell? you are dreaming and hahahfa never said that. all he said latitude C600
[11:29] <lewix> Sivik, PWill : i said somewhat
[11:29] <Sivik> wols: then who said something about dual opterons
[11:29] <lewix> Sivik, PWill : its not the perfect operating system obviously
[11:29] <lcohen> I was reading somewhere the success rate is highewr with WPA2
[11:29] <Sivik> wols: i may have accentily written that to the wrong person
[11:29] <PWill> lewix: well, linux supports more hardware than any other kernel. i think you're mistaken
[11:29] <wols> Sivik: I dunno who did, he didn't and you berated him cause of his fans, which is a stupid thing to do
[11:29] <Bladesonfire> The only options in the router administration is just WPA-PSK and a WPA Radius server
[11:29] <Bladesonfire> I'll give it a go, though
[11:29] <ladydoor> Tom39Away: i don't know, i eschew the use of graphical programs whenever possible. sorry
[11:29] <xMorphix> no need for a OS war
[11:29] <Bladesonfire> Thanks for your help, lcohen
[11:29] <Sivik> wols: i didn't berate anyone
[11:29] <ladydoor> xMorphix: i never logged out, though i did leave--very tricky :-)
[11:29] <Tom39Away> ladydoor, thanks anyway
[11:29] <lewix> PWill, windows is better if we're talking about hardware
[11:30] <Sivik> wols: if it came accross that way, i'm sorry
[11:30] <ladydoor> Tom39Away: np...sorry i couldn't be of more help
[11:30] <xMorphix> ladydoor: :P
[11:30] <lcohen> no problem, sorry I can't give you more, it can take two or three times for knetworkmanager to connect to my WPA router
[11:30] <PWill> lewix: i hope that was sarcasm...
[11:30] <mwe> that's the worst crap I've heard in a while
[11:30] <xMorphix> PWill: lol
[11:30] <wols> PWill: he's right cause there is no hardware that is not supported by Windows... while there is under linux some
[11:31] <kbs> hi. how to add my native language to kubuntu? i can choose only between brititsh and american english
[11:31] <wols> !locales > kbs
[11:31] <xMorphix> kbs: what's your native language?
[11:31] <lupine_85> hehe
[11:31] <lupine_85> some hardware performs better under linux than windows; some vice-versa. It's not a big deal
[11:31] <lcohen> anyone have any idea with my KitchenSync/OpenSync issue?
[11:31] <kbs> wols - thanks
[11:31] <mwe> geez
[11:32] <PWill> wols: that's inaccurate. i've never had a printer that worked out-of-the box on windows
[11:32] <boabsta> does anyone know how i would go about making my fonts bigger - after the last update they have all gone really small - even at the login box
[11:33] <PWill> boabsta: in system > preference > fonts
[11:33] <CrimsonKing> okay!
[11:33] <PWill> you can change the DPI, size, all that jazz
[11:33] <CrimsonKing> ssh tunnel command is ready
[11:33] <CrimsonKing> tested on laptop/homebox
[11:33] <georgy> mal : je regarde
[11:33] <CrimsonKing> if i can create an ssh tunnel from a php script
[11:33] <CrimsonKing> i will be in
[11:34] <PWill> CrimsonKing: what are you trying to tunnel into? i just got here...
[11:34] <mwe> You can I think
[11:34] <CrimsonKing> PWill: don't ask.
[11:34] <PWill> heh
[11:34] <CrimsonKing> it starts with me being an idiot
[11:34] <CrimsonKing> and locking down my hosts.allow
[11:34] <PWill> haha!
[11:34] <PWill> nice move...
[11:34] <CrimsonKing> yea
[11:35] <CrimsonKing> didn't know ubuntu ran sshd through there, wasn't paying attention
[11:35] <CrimsonKing> anyways, i now have access to the box via a php script
[11:35] <CrimsonKing> and if i can set up an ssh tunnel from the php script to my home box on a nopassword account
[11:35] <CrimsonKing> i should be able to forward the ssh from the home box and ssh in as if it were localhost
[11:35] <undriedsea> Hey, does anyone know how to load the accraid driver?
[11:36] <undriedsea> I am trying to install on a dell power edge and need to use the obarod RAID
[11:36] <CrimsonKing> here goes balls
[11:37] <PWill> good luck
[11:37] <CrimsonKing> thanks
[11:37] <CrimsonKing> the only thing i need to do is auto-accept that known-hosts warning
[11:37] <CrimsonKing> asking me if it wants to add
[11:37] <CrimsonKing> i can't risk hanging the script
[11:37] <undriedsea> Does anyone know how to load the aacraid driver during an ubuntu install?
[11:37] <kannan> hello all, will the ubuntu-64amd-server-install iso run on IBM x226 series server ? Pl adive, thanks a lot in advance
[11:37] <PWill> yeah. if it doesn't work, have fun reinstalling!
[11:38] <Beawolfe> fairly new NOOB here to Ubuntu and have a few questions if possible that someone can help me with
[11:38] <PWill> !ask
[11:38] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:38] <Sh4d0x> ! ati
[11:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:38] <Crescendo> Is there any fix to the sound card being locked, as in XMMS stealing audio from Flash in Firefox?
[11:38] <kbs> i can`t find localeconf in Adept
[11:38] <undriedsea> Does anyone know how to load the aacraid driver during an ubuntu install?
[11:38] <Bladesonfire> No luck using WPA2 =/
[11:38] <Crescendo> Perhaps making sound playable on multiple devices.
[11:39] <lampshade> Bladesonfire: you using network manager?
[11:39] <Beawolfe> is it possible to run both Gnome and KDE in ubuntu and be able to switch between the 2?
[11:39] <PWill> Crescendo: try install alsa-oss from the archives
[11:39] <lampshade> Bladesonfire: the extra little program you get in the repos
[11:39] <lampshade> Beawolfe: yes absolutely
[11:40] <kannan> hello all, will the ubuntu-64amd-server-install iso run on IBM x226 series server ? Pl adive, thanks a lot in advance (sorry to repeat)
[11:40] <Bladesonfire> Yeah, I'm using networkmanager
[11:40] <undriedsea> Does anyone know how to load the aacraid driver during an ubuntu install?
[11:40] <PWill> Bladesonfire: what wireless chipset do you have?
[11:40] <lampshade> Bladesonfire: that's odd, it does wpa beautifully for me.
[11:41] <Bladesonfire> It works to connect to a WPA-encrypted D-Link router and a none-encrypted Belkin router, but won't connect to the Belkin router when WPA is enabled
[11:41] <Bladesonfire> IPW2200
[11:41] <lampshade> same here
[11:41] <jmitchj> is it possible that I can't play commercial DVD on X86-64 system?
[11:41] <lampshade> hmm
[11:41] <Bladesonfire> lampshade, I know, it's just this one router... don't know why it's having problems with it
[11:41] <PWill> Bladesonfire: i have the same chipset, and WPA/2 works great
[11:41] <Sivik> jmitchj, what program and what do you mean by commercial DVD?
[11:41] <ladydoor> Beawolfe: yes, just install kubuntu-desktop and you *should* be able to select KDE from the GDM
[11:41] <PWill> Bladesonfire: do you have both network-manager and network-manager-gnome installed?
[11:41] <Bladesonfire> Do you guys know if Belkin behaves differently with the PSK sharing?
[11:42] <jmitchj> regular store bought DVD, with gxine
[11:42] <Beawolfe> okay...next question is if I install par 2 and unrar are the strictly command line proggies or can they be used in the gui of either Gnome or KDE?
[11:42] <ladydoor> Beawolfe: which is what you boot to, most likely
[11:42] <Bladesonfire> PWill, yes, both are installed
[11:42] <lampshade> Bladesonfire: yeah I'm a ipw person too and it works great  (I'm on it right now)  I would suggest restarting the machine, restarting the router and making sure the password for WPA is super correct.
[11:42] <Sivik> jmitchj, what is the error you get if you run gxine from terminal
[11:42] <lampshade> Beawolfe: yes
[11:42] <PWill> Bladesonfire: have you reset things, just to be sure? (ie, router, computer)
[11:42] <Sivik> jmitchj, what disc is it
[11:43] <lampshade> Beawolfe: at any time you can reach a terminal by ctrl+alt+F# or by just opening up a terminal inside.  I Have gnome-terminal open right now
[11:43] <Crescendo> PWill - can I just sudo apt-get install also-foss?
[11:43] <Bladesonfire> To both: I have restarted both before (first the router, then my computer)
[11:43] <PWill> Crescendo: run "sudo apt-get install alsa-oss"
[11:43] <Bladesonfire> I've showed the password when typing it in, so that is also correct
[11:43] <PWill> when it is done, let me know, and I'll walk you through th next step
[11:43] <Bladesonfire> I just don't get it =/
[11:44] <jmitchj> LOR
[11:44] <Bladesonfire> A friend suggested using ndiswrapper on the ipw drivers... would that be able to work?
[11:44] <lampshade> no
[11:44] <lampshade> don't do that
[11:44] <PWill> Bladesonfire: are you sure the password on the router is correct? also, do you have MAC filtering on?
[11:44] <Beawolfe> if it is yes then how can I get it to work.............installed both and have d/led a few things and when I click on a par2 check file the system stutters and then nothing.....same thing with the unrar
[11:44] <Sivik> Bladesonfire, theres really no use for that since the kernel already handles that
[11:44] <jmitchj> i'm new to Linux...so not a lot of knowledge yet
[11:45] <jmitchj> i've been trying to run gxine from Applications
[11:45] <lampshade> I mean, the ipw drivers are good solid drivers that intel even helped make a little and ndiswrapper is like a hackish way/ last resort for drivers like that
[11:45] <jmitchj> it just shuts down
[11:45] <PWill> Bladesonfire: if you have MAC filtering on, turn it off. IPW2200/0 doesn't support it.
[11:45] <Bladesonfire> PWill: Yes... the Belkin config page allows you to see the passphrase, as well. MAC filtering is on, but I had tried turning that off and no change in status
[11:45] <zeeter> i'm trying to install wine in ubuntu amd64 kernel
[11:45] <zeeter> anyone know if this is possible?
[11:45] <PWill> try again, and restart the router and laptop
[11:46] <Sivik> zeeter, thats going to be extremely hard
[11:46] <Bladesonfire> PWill: I'll turn off MAC filtering, but on my D-Link, I turned it on and it connects fine
[11:46] <zeeter> Sivik  can you explain?
[11:46] <zeeter> i tried building from source
[11:46] <zeeter> i used instructions from winehq site
[11:46] <Bladesonfire> I think it's because now Ubuntu is using wext?
[11:46] <Sivik> zeeter, you have to install support for 32-bit on the 64 bit kernel in order to run wine, wine isn't compiled for 64-bit
[11:46] <lupine_85> zeeter: 32bit chroot probably best
[11:46] <Bladesonfire> But I'll reset the router now
[11:46] <lampshade> Bladesonfire: try looking in /var/log/messages too
[11:47] <PWill> Crescendo: were you able to install alsa-oss?
[11:47] <lampshade> see if there are any obvious big errors
[11:47] <zeeter> how can i do that?
[11:47] <Jeeves_Moss> all:  HELP!!!  I did something stupid and now I can't get the X server to load.  Any ideas on a rescue plan?
[11:47] <Bladesonfire> Oh, I thought nm only had logs in syslog
[11:47] <Crescendo> PWill - I'm assisting a friend via messenger. >_<
[11:47] <zeeter> how do i install 32 bit support?
[11:47] <Bladesonfire> Thanks for the tip
[11:47] <zeeter> any websites you can point me to
[11:47] <zeeter> or docs
[11:47] <Crescendo> PWill, she emphasizes that she thinks it installed.  Still a no go on FF audio.
[11:47] <Sivik> zeeter: you would have to search google for it, i'm not real sure how to do it, also try ubuntuforums.org and wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:47] <peace-keeper> rescue plan: insert winxp cd intro drive, reboot, follow instructions on screen
[11:47] <PWill> Jeeves_Moss: did you backup xorg.conf?
[11:47] <teenprogrammer> h
[11:47] <teenprogrammer> hi
[11:47] <georgy> Jeeves_Moss : try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:47] <lupine_85> zeeter: search the forum for 32 bit chroot
[11:47] <Jeeves_Moss> PWill:  no?
[11:47] <Sivik> teenprogrammer, hi
[11:48] <ACETACE> hello all
[11:48] <Bladesonfire> brb
[11:48] <zeeter> lupine_85  ok will do
[11:48] <zeeter> thanx
[11:48] <PWill> Jeeves_Moss: what were you doing that caused X to fail?
[11:48] <ACETACE> anybody have a moment for a question?
[11:48] <Neo8750> is there a way to stop apt from removing the line that boots the gfx grub menu i have?
[11:48] <georgy> !ask
[11:48] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:49] <Jeeves_Moss> PWill:  I was installing Apache, MySQL, and PHP (making a LAMP system), then I booted into windows on a differen't partition.  Then when I got home, it give me a shell only
[11:49] <jazzrocker> how can i find the uid/username of the running apache process?
[11:49] <jazzrocker> programatically, without knowing before hand
[11:49] <PWill> Crescendo: you need to edit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc and change FIREFOX_DSP to "aoss"
[11:49] <Crescendo> PWill, thanks.
[11:49] <PWill> Jeeves_Moss: try running "startx"
[11:49] <Jeeves_Moss> grergory:  thanks again.  I'll try that.
[11:49] <Neo8750> jazzrocker: ps ux | grep apache
[11:49] <Neo8750> \?
[11:50] <Megaqwerty> I recently burned a Ubuntu Install disk, and it locks up at "Starting the Kernel"
[11:50] <jazzrocker> hmmm
[11:50] <Megaqwerty> any Ideas?
[11:50] <Jeeves_Moss> PWill:  I tried that.  then I get "cannot connect to X server"
[11:50] <jazzrocker> Neo8750, i guess that might work
[11:50] <Sivik> Jeeves_Moss, what video hardware?
[11:50] <jazzrocker> Neo8750, was hoping for a slightly more reliable way
[11:50] <lampshade> MeGaQuArK: probably just a bad burn or download
[11:50] <PWill> Jeeves_Moss: did the error give any other useful info?
[11:50] <xMorphix> Megaqwerty: How did you burn it?
[11:50] <lampshade> it happens randomly on occassion
[11:50] <jazzrocker> Neo8750, that seems a bit awkward and error prone to try to parse the output of grep of ps
[11:50] <Sivik> Jeeves_Moss, in the xorg.conf, change the driver from whatever it is right now to vesa and then rerun startx
[11:50] <Megaqwerty> with k3b
[11:50] <Neo8750> jazzrocker: ????
[11:51] <spdf> Jeeves_Moss, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log as well, or grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:51] <Jeeves_Moss> Sivik:  NVidea 5700Go I think?  it's a lappy.  and I wasen't playing with the video stuff at all this month.  Or I don't rember doing it.
[11:51] <CarNagE__> I just found a howto that recommends turning of alsa support in the kernel
[11:51] <colin1> exit
[11:51] <CarNagE__> How do I do this with Ubuntu Dapper?
[11:51] <Megaqwerty> So it is just a bad cd?
[11:51] <jazzrocker> Neo8750, i need to figure it out programatically
[11:51] <Sivik> Jeeves_Moss, go into the xorg.conf and change the driver to vesa to get into the x and then fix it from there
[11:51] <Megaqwerty> do you have the hash?
[11:51] <Megaqwerty> (MD5)
[11:52] <Jeeves_Moss> sivik:  ok, thanks.  I'm off to the wide partition of Linux now!!  I hate M$, so it'll be refreshing.  Thanks again
[11:52] <Sivik> Jeeves_Moss, yw
[11:52] <Neo8750> Megaqwerty: no but if you find any i want a a ball about the size of my fist
[11:52] <JosefK_> anyone else seen the scaling governor randomly being reset?
[11:52] <Megaqwerty> wait, what?
[11:53] <Neo8750> nevermind =8-)
[11:53] <Megaqwerty> oh
[11:53] <PWill> lol
[11:53] <PWill> kbye. calculus homework :( back later
[11:53] <ACETACE> @_@ ritee~~~ thanks at first... i'm trying to compile os161 and sys161 on my ubuntu system locally for one of my programming course (about operating systems).... when i compile os161-gcc it gave me a error something has to do with the file [read-rtl.o]  and called quits... i use gcc4.0.3 any idea what could have went wrong?
[11:53] <ruzgar> is there one icon directory or more?
[11:53] <Megaqwerty> alright, nevermind, I'll burn a new CD when I get home
[11:53] <ruzgar> /usr/share/icons
[11:54] <ruzgar> is there else
[11:54] <PWill|hw> ruzgar: there is /usr/share/pixmaps
[11:54] <PWill|hw> also, ~.icons/
[11:54] <ladydoor> ruzgar: i think there's ~/.icons, which keeps recreating itself every time i delete it, personally...
[11:55] <ACETACE> am i allowed to ask this here @_@? my problem is kinda.... specific and not really os related...
[11:56] <spdf> ACETACE, You're probably missing a build dependency
[11:56] <ruzgar> there is a problem with icons
[11:56] <linopil> !ask
[11:56] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:56] <ruzgar> in human icon theme, the symbol link icon is tango's icon
[11:57] <ACETACE> o >_< thanks spdf... but what does that mean... and what does that implies? o dang i asked another question >_<
[11:57] <Bladesonfire> Still no luck on connecting to the Belkin router with WPA =/
[11:57] <PWill|hw> Bladesonfire: does it work with WEP?
[11:58] <ladydoor> does anybody know where X stores its info about what's been highlighted (for paste purposes)?
[11:58] <Bladesonfire> PWill|hw: I have not tried WEP, but unencrypted works
[11:58] <Dr_willis>  ladydoor  in memory, you could use a program like glipper, or klipper to keep a paste-buffer history
[11:59] <mick> has anyone had anyluck configuring a logitech G7? i am following this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=125752&referrerid=107974 and i get an error about evdev not being found or not being valid or something... can someone help me?
[11:59] <Bladesonfire> PWill|hw: It's hard to test since other people are connected to this router right now (it's a work router)
[11:59] <ruzgar> !glipper
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glipper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:59] <ruzgar> glipper is good as klipper?
[11:59] <ladydoor> Dr_willis: not quite what i'm looking for, but thanks. i was hoping for a way to integrate gnu screen's cut-buffer with X's highlight-buffer, so that i would never need to use the mouse to highlight & copy/paste again
[11:59] <ruzgar> or that full of bugs ?
[11:59] <chillmod1> ntesting 1 2 1 3
[12:00] <JavaDeveloper> how can I watch VCD in ubuntu? I installed easyubuntu and installed all codecs from there already but it still can't play
[12:00] <PWill|hw> Bladesonfire: ah. that sucks. i don't really have any more advice, since it works flawlessly for me...
[12:00] <ladydoor> Dr_willis: though actually, i don't need to at this point, as i've got emacs's integrated, so since emacs is in screen i have a backdoor. muahaha...
[12:00] <Bladesonfire> PWill|hw: Thanks for your help anyway
[12:00] <PWill|hw> Bladesonfire: you COULD try ndiswrapper
[12:00] <Bladesonfire> I think it's just a problem with the router's WPA implementation, but I don't see how it could be that different
[12:01] <Bladesonfire> PWill|hw: probably my only hope now