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sfllawph8: I think the web is the best.12:04
sfllawhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+bugs/12:04
sfllawI think.12:04
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UbugtuNew bug: #62519 in update-manager (main) "[Edgy]  Some translations are not applied" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6251912:10
UbugtuNew bug: #62521 in bzr (main) "bzr should run without bzrlib.tests installed." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6252112:10
UbugtuNew bug: #62522 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "Loss of ctrl-L file path dialog" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6252212:10
UbugtuNew bug: #62524 in kdebase (main) "Can't install a new printer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6252412:17
UbugtuNew bug: #62525 in nautilus (main) ""Documents" folder bookmark double entry" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6252512:20
FireRabbituh yeah can someone mark that 62522 bug invalid? i guess i dont have access to do that12:28
crimsunmeaning reject it?12:30
KamionFireRabbit: err, it seems valid to me?12:31
Kamionctrl-l in gedit's open dialog does nothing interesting12:31
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FireRabbiteh? on a brand new edgy system, it pops up a path entry12:36
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FireRabbittheres a little button next to the breadcrum bar that does the same thing, nautilus has it  too12:39
Kamionhow brand new exactly, btw? knot-3 or a daily?12:39
FireRabbiti am fully updated12:40
FireRabbitsince a few hours ago12:40
geserwhat are the differences between libnspr4 (source: firefox) and libnspr4-0d (source: xulrunner)?12:43
geserand which one to prefer?12:43
gesersee bug 6241512:43
UbugtuMalone bug 62415 in gaim-encryption "can it be build against libnspr4 " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6241512:43
crimsun0d is the xulrunner one12:43
crimsunerr, duh, you said that12:44
geserbesides the different source packages there is no difference?12:44
crimsunI don't know the differences off the top of my head12:45
crimsunsince FF already has that lib, it makes sense to not drag in the xulrunner version12:45
gesershould the package then be rebuild against libnspr4 from firefox?12:47
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crimsungeser: yes, that would be best (changing debian/control)12:52
geserok, will prepare a debdiff12:52
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crimsunok, thanks12:54
UbugtuNew bug: #62527 in Ubuntu "Please sync mpqc_2.3.1-1 from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6252712:56
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FireRabbitnevermind, i figured out how to close the bug.01:02
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secretlondonhi01:06
FireRabbithi01:06
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FireRabbitexcellent, excellent01:12
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UbugtuNew bug: #62528 in soundconverter (universe) "Breaks with unicode characters" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6252801:16
UbugtuNew bug: #62529 in Ubuntu "Drag and drop of Bookmarks from Places menu copies entire directory" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6252901:16
secretlondoni'm trying to replicate #6252801:19
FireRabbiti can confirm 62528, looking into which package to reassign it to..01:20
secretlondonah - I can't confirm that error message, but I have breakage in Dapper with a file called  ).mp301:22
UbugtuNew bug: #62530 in courier-authlib (universe) "[Merge]  courier-authlib 0.58-4ubuntu1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6253001:30
secretlondonI've reproduced 62525, is there anything else I should do to it?01:34
FireRabbitmark it confirmed and link it with an upstream bug01:35
secretlondonI've marked it confirmed01:35
secretlondonTo link it - I look for a similar bug in Debian? Gnome?01:35
FireRabbitoh sorry i had the wrong bug open01:36
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FireRabbitgnome bugzilla, yeah01:36
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FireRabbitsecretlondon: is there some way you removed that bug from ubuntu, or is that how it was reported? re: the red warning note at the top01:40
secretlondonFireRabbit:what red warning note? I've just set confirmed, not done anything else to it. I don't have a warning note here01:41
FireRabbithm on 62525 i see "This bug is not recorded as needing to be fixed in the soundconverter (Ubuntu)  package."01:41
secretlondonah - you've gone to the wrong link01:41
secretlondonhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/6252501:42
UbugtuMalone bug 62525 in nautilus ""Documents" folder bookmark double entry" [Undecided,Confirmed] 01:42
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cleptohi i need some help... i installed ubuntu and everything now when i try to start it it goes to the login screen and i type in my username and password then the screen flashes a few times and then resets to the login screen. this happens 4 to 6 times then it brings me to the text login screen i log in then i can startx no problem... how do i fix this?01:42
secretlondon62525 is nautilus01:42
FireRabbitah, gotcha01:42
secretlondonclepto: try #Ubuntu which is the official support channel01:42
cleptoi tried there and no one is talking01:42
cleptosorry i tried it in xubuntu01:43
secretlondonYou can try submitting a support request: http://launchpad.net/support01:43
secretlondonTry #Ubuntu first01:44
secretlondonmention you are using Xubuntu01:44
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UbugtuNew bug: #62531 in maildrop (universe) "[Sync Request]  maildrop 2.0.2-10 from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6253101:50
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secretlondonIf a bug isn't in gnome bugzilla I presume I have to register and post it?01:58
FireRabbityeah i guess so.. its a pain01:59
secretlondonThing is, I don't know whether we've caused those changes or not01:59
FireRabbitright well, i suppose you could just request an upstream fix but not link it to any upstream bug... and hope the package maintainer comes along and goes through all his bugs, and figures that out.. i dont know if there is a policy for this.. *shrug*02:00
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secretlondonFireRabbit: Did you confirm #62528 (the soundconverter one)02:03
FireRabbiti didnt touch that one..02:03
FireRabbitdo you want me to test it on edgy?02:03
secretlondonah ok - i thought you were looking at02:04
secretlondonFireRabbit - that would be cool, I've only got net on Dapper atm02:04
FireRabbithm i was able to convert a file that has a  in it..02:13
FireRabbitwhat was the filename you had problems with?02:15
secretlondonhmm. I can't find any mention of soundconverter in gnome-bugzilla..02:15
UbugtuNew bug: #62533 in partman (main) "ubiquity hangs waiting for partman" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6253302:15
UbugtuNew bug: #62534 in module-init-tools (main) "nvidia module load should be conditional on nvidia driver being used" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6253402:15
secretlondon ).mp302:16
secretlondonI should try a more sensible name02:16
FireRabbitah pretty02:16
FireRabbitthat seems to work as well though02:16
secretlondonI'm going to try here again to make sure I'm not doing anything silly02:17
secretlondondapper has sound converter 0.8.302:17
FireRabbitunrelated, this program takes a LONG freakin time to convert songs!02:17
FireRabbitthe 0.8.7-2 changelog says02:18
FireRabbiter02:19
FireRabbit  * soundconverter.py: Changed the charset declaration from "latin-1"02:20
FireRabbit    to "iso-8859-1". Thanks, Mario Iseli. Closes: #385181.02:20
FireRabbiti dont know if that's related, i cant find that bug02:20
secretlondonI can't find any mention of that program in gnome bugzilla - is that gnome's bug?02:20
UbugtuNew bug: #62535 in network-manager (main) "[edgy]  network-manager sees usb wifi (rt73usb) as wired net" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6253502:20
FireRabbiti dont have any idea, haha02:20
secretlondonme neither!02:21
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FireRabbithttp://soundconverter.berlios.de/ thats the website, its not a GNOME project02:23
FireRabbitthey have a bug tracker, b ut that bug# doesnt exist in it02:23
secretlondonwhere did you get that changelog from?02:23
FireRabbit/usr/share/doc/soundconverter/changelog.Debian.gz02:23
secretlondonk - i guess our bug or debians02:24
secretlondoni'll have a look02:24
FireRabbitok02:24
secretlondonmy file has mainly ubuntu bug fixes02:26
secretlondonhttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=38518102:29
secretlondonyay!02:29
UbugtuDebian bug 385181 in soundconverter "soundconverter: FTBFS: xgettext: Non-ASCII string at soundconverter.py:72." [Serious,Closed] 02:29
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UbugtuNew bug: #62536 in wide-dhcpv6 (universe) "Please sync wide-dhcpv6 (universe) from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6253602:35
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bddebianBoo02:38
secretlondonello02:38
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UbugtuNew bug: #62537 in Baltix (main) "Font rendering glitches with radeon, known bug, patch exists" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6253702:40
UbugtuNew bug: #62538 in xorg (main) "No direct rendering for ATI Radeon Xpress 200M" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6253802:40
secretlondoni've no idea what to do with the X bugs02:42
bddebianIf you can't reproduce them, don't have the hardware, etc, just leave them02:43
secretlondonok02:44
UbugtuNew bug: #62405 in Ubuntu "Please upgrade opera in dapper-commercial to 9.02" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6240502:46
secretlondonI presume we can't do anything with the sync requests either02:47
secretlondon(although i think that opera one is a duplicate)02:47
bddebiansecretlondon: If they are still valid and ubuntu-archive is subscribed (if they were submitted by or acknowledged by an MOTU) then no, those have to be handled by the archive-admins02:48
Hobbseesecretlondon: yeah, other people do that02:48
secretlondonthanks02:49
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UbugtuNew bug: #62540 in cyrus-sasl2 (main) "Please consider building cyrus-sasl2 with SRP support" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6254003:46
UbugtuNew bug: #62541 in vlc (universe) "vlc install fails - depends on an old package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6254103:46
UbugtuNew bug: #62542 in apport (main) "Apport should not do its expensive bits without user confirmation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6254203:50
secretlondonthe vlc looks like a support issue03:54
secretlondonit's in dapper repositories fine, could be edgy (I've asked)03:54
secretlondoni've sorted03:59
UbugtuNew bug: #62543 in upstart (main) "reiserfs checks are slow" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6254304:00
secretlondonhobbsee: the powerpc version (only) does depend on the old package according to http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/graphics/vlc04:02
Hobbseesecretlondon: ahhh....04:02
secretlondonHobbsee: I presume that's what he's using04:02
=== Hobbsee wonders why they dont use libdbus-1-3 for ppc
=== secretlondon guesses that might be the bug fix
secretlondonpowerpc seems to have an earlier version04:04
secretlondon0.8.5 rather than 0.8.604:04
UbugtuNew bug: #62544 in kaffeine (main) "0.8.1 -> 0.8.2 UVF Exception Request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6254404:05
Hobbseeohhh....04:07
Hobbseei see, yes04:07
=== Hobbsee looks up why that is
Hobbseesecretlondon: i'd hazard a guess that the uk. mirrors are broken.  weird that it's missed two versions though04:08
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secretlondonHobbsee: I'm getting my info from http://packages.ubuntu.com04:08
Hobbseesecretlondon: me too, and launchpad.04:09
Hobbseeoh, wait, yeah....04:09
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Hobbseewhat are you pondering?04:11
Hobbsee*looks in the changelog for why there's a different dep anyway*04:11
secretlondonthat's what I'm pondering really.04:12
Hobbseeahhh...p.u.c says there's only the eariler version as i38604:13
secretlondonwhat's p.u.c?04:16
Hobbseepackages.ubuntu.com04:16
secretlondonty04:16
Hobbseei dont get it.....04:18
secretlondonI don't know how packaging is done to know whether the powerpc version gets built separately - and whether it's been forgotten or something..04:19
Hobbseei'm guessing that something's failed, so powerpc has kept the old version04:19
Hobbseei just cant seem to see what, or why04:19
UbugtuNew bug: #62546 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Edgy  - Hot keys for suspend/hibernate don't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6254604:20
Hobbseeimbrandon: you around?04:22
imbrandonHobbsee, wasup ?04:23
Hobbseeimbrandon: got a ppc chroot anywhere, or know why bug 62541 occurs?  it's only on ppc, and i cant tell why it's failing04:24
UbugtuMalone bug 62541 in vlc "vlc install fails - depends on an old package" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6254104:24
imbrandonhrm lemme reboot my laptop ( ppc ) into edgy04:24
imbrandonone sec04:24
Hobbseeimbrandon: more of the concern is that ppc seems to have the older version anyway04:24
Hobbseeand i'm lost as to why04:25
imbrandonwell 2 things could have happened, without looking, 1) it failed to build on ppc and the vlc is old its self with old deps04:25
imbrandonor more likely 2)04:25
imbrandonthat they dont have -updates or -security enabled04:26
imbrandoni have run accross that alot lately04:26
Hobbseeimbrandon: p.u.c disagrees with that04:26
secretlondonp.u.c has a diff version for ppc04:26
=== imbrandon looks
imbrandonthat means it was 1) but looking04:26
=== Hobbsee nods
Hobbseeimbrandon: LP disagrees with 104:27
Hobbseeeven the resulting binaries are there04:27
Hobbseehttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/vlc/0.8.6-svn20060918.debian-1ubuntu204:27
imbrandonyea 8.5 is on ppc and i386 and amd64 have 8.6 , lemme look into what it ftb04:28
imbrandonVersions: 0.8.5.debian-2ubuntu1 [powerpc] , 0.8.6-svn20060823.debian-3ubuntu1 [amd64,i386] 04:28
=== secretlondon nods.
Hobbseeimbrandon: perhaps grab https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/248726 <-- binaires from there, and check if they install?04:28
Hobbseethat's the latest vlc, for ppc - apparently it's built fine04:29
Hobbseelatest version and all04:29
=== Hobbsee wonders what version the source on ppc is
imbrandonthats not the right binarys04:29
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imbrandonthat old also, just not AS old04:29
Hobbseeno?04:29
imbrandonlook at the svn date04:29
imbrandon2006091804:29
Hobbseehttp://librarian.launchpad.net/4422697/vlc_0.8.6-svn20060918.debian-1ubuntu2_powerpc.changes?  true04:30
Hobbseeer, which is newer than the 0.8.6-svn20060823.debian-3ubuntu1?04:30
=== Hobbsee double checks
imbrandonis vlc in main ?04:30
Hobbseeno04:30
secretlondonuniverse04:30
Hobbseeoh....04:31
Hobbseei see.04:31
Hobbseegot it04:31
zulhell yes..04:31
Hobbseezul: hmmm?04:31
Hobbseegosh, that took a while04:32
zul2.6.17 xen is working04:32
imbrandonzul, you rock04:32
secretlondonHobbsee: what is the problem?04:32
imbrandonHobbsee, whats up ?04:32
secretlondonerr cause04:32
Hobbseeimbrandon: give me a sec04:32
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Hobbseeimbrandon: it's lost in the black hole of mirrors syncing.04:33
Hobbseeits' been 2 days though.04:33
HobbseeBuild finished:   2006-09-25 11:12:07 EST (28 minutes)04:33
Hobbseewell, 38 hours04:33
Hobbseeimbrandon: old version ftbfs, new version is there, it just hasnt synced to mirrors yet, for some reason04:34
imbrandonwhat does the actual archive say ? e.g. launchpad ( as p.u.c is never correct )04:34
Hobbseesays the latest is published on all arches04:34
Hobbseehttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/vlc/0.8.6-svn20060918.debian-1ubuntu204:34
imbrandonok let me reboot my lappy and verify that04:34
Hobbsee^ is the latest, the version before failed04:34
Hobbseeso either soyuz broke, soyuz temporarily broke, or the mirrors are lagging.04:35
imbrandonwhat mirrors? have you checked the supermirror? i'm not understanding where your seeing the mirrors lag04:35
Hobbseeus.04:35
secretlondonthe bug reporter is getting old version, using us mirror04:36
imbrandonyea thats why i said check the actual archive ;)04:36
imbrandonus. ( or any cc. ) can be days behind04:36
imbrandonat times04:36
Hobbseeah yeah, it's not in the archive yet04:37
=== Hobbsee BLAMES SOYUZ!
imbrandonits not good to use a devlopment version with a cc mirror04:37
imbrandonHobbsee, wait04:37
Hobbseeit's not in a.u.c either04:37
Hobbseewhere a == archiv04:37
Hobbseee04:37
imbrandonthere could be other problems, and soyuz has sero control over us.04:37
Hobbsee*grin*04:37
Hobbseecant i blame it anyway?04:37
secretlondonwould the old library be deleted separately?04:37
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imbrandonit would be better to find the real problem04:38
Hobbseeit's thru edgy-changes, it's built, but it's not in the archives04:38
imbrandonsecretlondon, yes04:38
secretlondonas that is the issue reported - the the old one has unmet dependencies04:38
=== secretlondon nods
Hobbseeyeah, once the new version is added, the old version automatically gets deleted04:38
secretlondonk04:38
Hobbseeie, problem already has been fixed -just the fix for ppc didnt actually build, so they didnt get it04:39
imbrandonit got built and publish04:39
imbrandonslow down tonto04:39
Hobbsee:P04:39
HobbseeBinary packages04:41
HobbseeNo binaries have been generated for this release.04:41
imbrandonhere is your REAL problem, its stuck in binary NEW and hasent been processed https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=vlc04:41
HobbseeLP confuses me sometimes...it really does04:41
Hobbseewe can view binary NEW?  i was about to ask about that04:41
Hobbseei didnt notice any binaries, i thought i'd checked that :P04:41
imbrandone.g. its a developemt release, reject the bug and tell them once the u-a gets arround to it it will be processed04:42
imbrandonHobbsee, always good to check the queue ;)04:42
imbrandonhehe anyhow yea thats the issue04:43
=== Hobbsee does that
imbrandonjust reject the bug and tell them once the u-a gets arround to it it will be processed04:43
Hobbseeyeah, duh.04:43
Hobbseedone04:43
=== Hobbsee didnt see that. it's still pre-2pm :P
Hobbseesecretlondon: problem solved :P04:44
imbrandonthere are littlery about 114 other packages to do too04:44
Hobbseeyeah, urgh04:44
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=== secretlondon cheers
imbrandon2200 here ;)04:44
secretlondonand not even bug day for you, so I'm not sure you get a hug for fixing it ;)04:45
imbrandonhahaha04:45
Hobbseeheh04:45
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secretlondonwhat on earth are we supposed to do with #62543?05:00
secretlondonIt's more of a wishlist, it admits it's a question not a bug report05:00
Hobbseebug 6254305:01
UbugtuMalone bug 62543 in upstart "reiserfs checks are slow" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6254305:01
Hobbseesecretlondon: probably leave that one for keybuk, along with any other upstart stuff, unless its' obviously a dupe05:01
Hobbseesecretlondon: same with ubiquity stuff - dont touch it at all05:01
secretlondonok05:01
imbrandonand fwiw reiserfs checks are always slow no matter the init system ( and yes i use reiserfs ) but they are aonly done once or twice a year ( unless you fsk something up , then you can expect fs checks to be slow and thoughrough )05:04
secretlondonwell the reporter is saying they are done on boot05:05
imbrandonyea when something go's wrong05:06
secretlondonah - he is saying it does it every time05:06
imbrandonugh i just read that, thats needs to be rejected too, man where do people come up with this stuff05:07
imbrandonif he is having a 10 second resiser fs check each boot he has hardware issues for one, two bugs are places for requests05:08
imbrandon-users or -devel ML05:08
imbrandonarent*05:08
=== secretlondon nods.
UbugtuNew bug: #62547 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "no dri cannot init AGP  in 2.6.17-10 AMD64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6254705:11
=== secretlondon has rejected politely.
imbrandon;)05:13
imbrandonthanks secretlondon05:13
=== secretlondon laughs.
imbrandonahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Hobbsee05:14
imbrandonyou broke my keyboard keymap05:14
imbrandonon my ppc05:14
Hobbseeno i didnt :P05:14
imbrandoni know but i have to blame someone05:14
imbrandonwtf05:14
Hobbseenoooo...not on -devel05:14
=== Hobbsee sees enough crap there as it is
imbrandonHobbsee, would be the best place as it IS a development proposal05:15
imbrandonthat and they can shoot him down better than me becouse fschecks cant be run on mounted filesdystems05:15
imbrandon;)05:15
Hobbseetrue05:15
UbugtuNew bug: #62549 in Ubuntu "make-kpkg Cannot Compile 2.6.18" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6254905:16
secretlondon62549 - that's not the current kernel05:16
imbrandonugh we dont use the 2.6.18 kernel, i dont even have to read that one to reject it05:16
=== imbrandon needs a big /rejected/ stamp today
=== secretlondon will get a reputation as the bug nazi.
imbrandonhaha05:17
imbrandonsecretlondon, you can point them to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild05:18
imbrandonif you wish05:19
secretlondonimbrandon: thanks05:19
imbrandon( and politely tell them we dont support custom kernels especial ones we're not running )05:19
zulimbrandon: ummm...that wont work because they are still using kernel-package if they use the wiki instructions05:19
secretlondon"will be rejected without explanation"05:20
imbrandonzul, hopefully they are keen enough to swap the build instructions for their version, if not they really dont need to compile a kernel05:21
UbugtuNew bug: #62550 in kdebase (main) "Konqueror crashes when dealing with *.html files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6255005:21
zulimbrandon: actually the fix is pretty easy there is a patch already but we need to test it first05:22
imbrandonahh05:22
secretlondon#62550 - Konqueror crashes randomly when I do different things05:29
FireRabbithaha05:29
secretlondonHow am I supposed to replicate that!05:29
FireRabbithave him figure out which specific html file it is that causes the crash, and attach it to the bug05:29
UbugtuNew bug: #62551 in pygopherd (universe) "Please sync pygopherd (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6255105:35
UbugtuNew bug: #62552 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Support for maxSize to usb-serial to support EVDO" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6255205:35
FireRabbitnow that is something the kernel team should implement05:36
UbugtuNew bug: #62553 in Ubuntu "Suspend doesn't resume on Toshiba A105-S4004 Notebook" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6255305:40
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secretlondon#62528 - what to do?05:40
FireRabbitSomeone, what should be done about bugs filed against a kernel that's not the latest?05:40
crimsundepends which kernel05:42
secretlondonI don't know, I imagine we have loads of open bugs like that, in the same way that we have loads of bugs with dapper betas etc05:42
Hobbseebug 6252805:42
UbugtuMalone bug 62528 in soundconverter "Breaks with unicode characters" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6252805:42
FireRabbitcrimsun: can you be more specific?05:42
crimsunwe no longer support Warty's kernel; as of November we will no longer support Hoary's kernel. At this precise moment, we're concentrating on Dapper's and Edgy's kernels.05:42
secretlondonI think I was wrong to link to the debian bug re: unicode05:43
FireRabbitcrimsun: so.. what are the version #s for all those?05:43
secretlondonbut he's now saying it's generally broke05:43
crimsun2.6.8.1, 2.6.10, 2.6.12, 2.6.15, 2.6.1705:43
FireRabbitso 2.6.15 and 2.6.17 are supported, the rest are not?05:43
crimsun(warty, hoary, breezy, dapper, and edgy, respectively)05:43
crimsunHoary through Dapper are supported05:43
FireRabbitoh, ok05:43
FireRabbitso nothing before 2.6.1005:44
crimsunCorrect. if the person can reproduce on the supported ones (preferably Dapper or Edgy), then it's best.05:44
secretlondonbut old versions of 2.6.15 we don't support either presumably, we say update to current one05:44
crimsun(and then Edgy only because it's easier to fix)05:44
FireRabbitright05:44
crimsunsecretlondon: we only have one 2.6.15 per se :)05:45
crimsun(but yes, not -2[3-6] )05:45
UbugtuNew bug: #62554 in kmplayer (main) "0.9.2a -> 0.9.3 UVF Exception Request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6255405:46
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secretlondonthat was fun - something crashed x05:56
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secretlondonhmm - I click on the same log file in LP and I crash again06:02
crimsunURL?06:03
secretlondonjust getting06:03
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secretlondonhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/6251506:04
UbugtuMalone bug 62515 in update-manager "didnt install kernel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 06:04
secretlondonsecond file06:04
crimsunboth open fine here (current edgy's FF)06:05
secretlondoneverytime I've clicked on it I've had a restart of X, gconf:Received signal 15:shutting down cleanly06:05
crimsunI'm using an i915GM (i810 driver) w/ AIGLX and composite enabled06:05
crimsunwhich driver?06:06
secretlondondapper, current nvidia06:06
crimsunreproducible with the 'nv' driver?06:06
secretlondonnot tried, and I can't see why that text file in particular would cause breakage06:07
crimsunit's not immediately obvious to me, either, but I'm not using your precise configuration06:08
secretlondonIn Xorg.0.log I'm getting 7268 X: client 2 rejected from local host (other numbers up to 6)06:09
secretlondonHow would I swap to the nv driver (apologies for the newbie question)06:10
crimsunI don't receive anything of that sort06:10
crimsundid you use the instructions from wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto ? If so, reverse them (but no need to remove any packages)06:10
secretlondonThey are preceded by AUDIT06:11
secretlondonI'll look06:11
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UbugtuNew bug: #62555 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6255506:30
UbugtuNew bug: #62556 in epiphany-browser (main) "Tab Toolbar Suggestion" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6255606:35
secretlondonwell the file loaded this time using the nv driver06:36
secretlondonbut I suspect it would have loaded this time using the nvidia driver too..06:37
secretlondonbah - bugs that are support requests06:42
UbugtuNew bug: #62557 in Ubuntu "when partitioning disks manually, installer insists on reformatting to ext3" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6255706:46
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secretlondonryanoc :has he just fixed a bug?06:51
ryanocDon't know, but he probably has today :p06:51
secretlondonha ha06:51
ryanoci mean when you close a bug you don't usually say "I closed xxxx"06:51
secretlondontrue06:52
secretlondonwe have to either catch them to hug them, or they have to come here to be hugged ;)06:53
ryanoci think it's important to acknowledge the canonicals :)06:53
ryanoc:p yeah ;(06:54
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Hobbsee:)  another she06:59
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ryanocyeah, it's definitely good to know there's dedicated female ubuntu'ers out there07:00
ryanocespecially on hug day ;)07:00
secretlondon:P07:00
Hobbseehehe07:00
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UbugtuNew bug: #62558 in deskbar-applet (main) "Deskbar error parsing Firefox's live bookmarks" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6255807:01
=== Hobbsee wont say it....
ryanocoh man 15.5k bugs now... where to start!?!?!?!!!!??????????????!?!?!07:01
Hobbseeryanoc: wherever you like.  start with a package, and go thru the bugs07:01
=== secretlondon is tempted to close everything that was filed on dapper betas
Hobbseehaha07:02
Hobbseeif people are looking to kill some of the numbers, go thru hoary and warty bugs and see if they still occur07:02
ryanocsecretlondon: most should be closed as they were fixed for final releases, so if they are still open, they are possibly still legit07:03
Hobbseeanything that's warty only, and not reproducable later, can just be closed due to EOL07:03
Hobbseetrue that07:03
ryanocwhat's EOL stand for?07:04
ryanocend of life??07:04
Hobbseeyep07:04
ryanocdoes anyone have the url of bugs that would be "nice" to send upstream07:05
Hobbseeum....07:06
=== Hobbsee looks
Hobbseehttp://tinyurl.com/nm4n307:06
Hobbsee      * http://tinyurl.com/nm4n3 - is a list of bugs that can be checked07:06
Hobbsee        for duplicates upstream and probably forwarded. This is an easy07:06
Hobbsee        task, because bugs marked on this list are likely to contain07:06
Hobbsee        needed information already.07:06
Hobbsee      * http://tinyurl.com/rp3xk - is a list of bugs tagged as07:06
Hobbsee        'ubuntulove' - these are mostly hacking or packaging tasks that07:06
Hobbsee        are isolated and where help would be appreciated.07:06
ryanocyay, thx07:06
ryanocwow they hadn't made that last time :p07:07
secretlondonOoh - from a link in a new bug - Moz won't accept bugs in our firefox..07:10
secretlondonor whatever we may end up calling it ;)07:11
Hobbseeheh.  right07:12
Hobbseeactually, that doestn really surprise me07:12
Hobbsee*ignores firefox*07:12
Hobbsee*just uses it - the mozilla binaries*07:13
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ryanoci don't understand what you're saying, but ok :p07:15
Hobbseeryanoc: iirc, our maintainers change a lot of firefox to work well here - there are mozilla binaries, which i tend to use of firefox, which doesnt require me having all of gnome installed, etc07:16
Hobbseeand seems faster07:16
secretlondonbut Mozilla are unhappy - and very unhappy with Debian who are using the Firefox name but not the logo (as the logo breaches thier free software guidelines)07:17
ryanochmm07:17
Hobbseeyeah well07:17
ryanocwell, Ubuntu doesn't use the logo either on the launcher07:17
Hobbseei leave that discussion to the devs that are speakign with mozilla about it :)07:18
secretlondonyes - and apparently we are negotating with mozilla on it07:18
ryanocsweet07:18
ryanocagch, bugzilla required at least 4 chars to search for terms07:19
ryanoccan't search for "WEP"07:19
ryanoci had to do "search for any words" + keywords = "WEP security"07:22
ryanocso it would search for everything with WEP07:23
Hobbseelol07:23
ryanoc"wep jsdlfkjlsdf" was better07:24
UbugtuNew bug: #62559 in Ubuntu ""root" accounts made on installation cant login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6255907:25
Hobbseeoh for goodness sake...07:25
ryanocroot accounts arent supposed to be logged in to :/07:25
secretlondonthats a silly bug07:25
Hobbsee!root07:25
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:25
ryanocif u really want to tho, u can tick the box07:26
secretlondon"if i call my user "root" it breaks" - yeah? you don't say!07:26
ryanocanyone want to tell them that + mark as dup, and close?07:26
ryanocnvm they know that07:27
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ryanoci didnt read it :p07:27
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Hobbseehehe07:27
Hobbseethat's even more of a headdesk bug that i originally thought07:28
ryanocit still makes sense to reject "root" accounts in the account setup07:28
ryanoclike he says07:28
secretlondontrue - as an idiot filter07:28
ryanocyea lol07:28
ryanocas in he's the only person whos ever tried that07:29
ryanoc!idiot filter07:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about idiot filter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:29
ryanochaha, we need to add it07:29
UbugtuNew bug: #62560 in cohoba (universe) "No icons created in gnome-panel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6256007:35
ryanoc!idiot filter is a bug that needs fixing just because one person was dumb enough to reproduce it, and there may be more like them in the future!07:35
ryanoc;)07:35
ryanoc!info firefox07:37
ubotufirefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-ubuntu0.6.06 (dapper), package size 7739 kB, installed size 22928 kB07:37
secretlondonfirefox isn't that lightweight07:38
ryanocisn't firebird or something supposed to be the lightweight one07:38
secretlondonI'm told that it won't run on my new xubuntu machine as it wants about 256M of RAM07:39
ryanocyou have a new machine with 256mb?07:39
secretlondonit's lighter than the full mozilla suite certainly07:39
secretlondonless than - it's an old laptop07:40
crimsunyou can try dillo or links -g07:40
ryanocthere will be options to let it run... i mean if you can run it on PPCs etc..07:40
secretlondonit's got 64mb of ram - it's getting xubuntu and whatever very lightweight stuff I can find07:40
secretlondonFirefox will NOT be one of them07:40
ryanoccool07:41
ryanocbut unfortunate.. I'm a big firefox fan07:41
ryanocwhat browser will you use?07:42
secretlondonit was cheap on ebay and I needed a very cheap laptop - it's going to be fun to play with07:42
secretlondonnot sure yet - someone suggested old versions of opera, I'm going to experiment07:42
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UbugtuNew bug: #62561 in unifont (main) "missing predepend?  unifont fails to install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6256107:50
UbugtuNew bug: #62562 in gabber2 (universe) "Crash when setting up gabber2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6256207:55
secretlondonthink the gabber one is edgy07:59
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ryanocok im off08:08
ryanochave a good day everyone08:08
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UbugtuNew bug: #62563 in coreutils (main) "dd --- Segmentation fault" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6256308:20
secretlondonI don't really understand #6256108:22
secretlondonthere don't seem to be any missing dependencies that I can see08:23
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Hobbseesecretlondon: could be an upstream bug or something.  *shrug*  if fabbion*e's dealing wiht it, ignore it?08:31
robitaillesecretlondon,  I don't think that's a missing dependency.  It seems there is a bug (or missing logic) in the script the installer of that package is trying to run during the installation08:31
secretlondonok - thanks08:32
robitaillenothing in the debian BTS that I can see about that problem.08:33
UbugtuNew bug: #62564 in xmms (main) "Always On Top messes with plugins config" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6256408:35
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UbugtuNew bug: #62565 in ktorrent (main) "svn patches for improved download speed." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6256508:50
UbugtuNew bug: #62566 in totem (main) "totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin is not installable on Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6256608:58
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dholbachgood morning - HAPPY HUG DAY!08:58
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secretlondon#62566 seems very close to a bug we had earlier involving libdbus and ppc dependencies..09:06
dholbachbug 6256609:09
UbugtuMalone bug 62566 in totem "totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin is not installable on Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6256609:09
dholbachno that package is obsolete and doesn't exist in edgy anymore09:10
dholbachdaniel@lovegood:~$ apt-cache showsrc totem | grep Binary09:10
dholbachBinary: libtotem-plparser1-dbg, totem-mozilla, libtotem-plparser-dev, totem-xine, totem-gstreamer, libtotem-plparser1, totem09:10
dholbachdaniel@lovegood:~$09:10
dholbachit's totem-mozilla nowadays09:10
dholbachand it gets pulled in by ubuntu-desktop09:10
dholbachso you can reject the bug with a notice09:11
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dholbachROCK ON09:11
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robitailleif all the bug reports we get were so easy to solve .. :)09:12
dholbacha lot of them are :)09:14
secretlondonor are support requests, or random09:14
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secretlondon#62565 - that's not a bug as much as some svn patches09:21
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dholbachbug 6256509:22
UbugtuMalone bug 62565 in ktorrent "svn patches for improved download speed." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6256509:22
dholbachsomebody of the kubuntu folks should have a look at the patch09:23
dholbachsubscribe the 'kubuntu-team' to it09:23
UbugtuNew bug: #62567 in mythtv (multiverse) "Unmet dependencies in mythbrowser and mythdvd and undefined symbols in mythtv libs (Edgy Eft)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6256709:26
robitailledholbach,  done (for 62565)09:26
dholbachsuper09:27
dholbachI'll have a look at the lists from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Bugs today09:27
dholbachhow's the HUG DAY going for all of you?09:27
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robitaillebug 62567 feels like a possible dupe of bug 62385 but with more details09:29
UbugtuMalone bug 62567 in mythtv "Unmet dependencies in mythbrowser and mythdvd and undefined symbols in mythtv libs (Edgy Eft)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6256709:29
UbugtuMalone bug 62385 in mythtv "myth tv plugins are out of sync" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6238509:29
robitailleis myth even usable nowadays?  bug 5815509:31
UbugtuMalone bug 58155 in mythtv "errors loading packages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5815509:31
dholbachwhen I'm unsure I always ask the reporters to check bug <n>, if it's a dup09:31
dholbachyes, but looks like09:32
dholbachi suppose you can just close them09:32
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robitaillewhy close them?09:33
robitaillethey seem valid09:33
dholbachno, the dups09:34
seb128dholbach: today is upstream forwarding day?09:35
dholbachI'm not sure if that was in sfllaw's announce09:35
dholbachbut yeah, it makes sense09:35
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dholbach32 bugs09:36
dholbach9 ubuntulove tasks09:36
seb128link?09:37
dholbachseb128: we should shamlessly plug http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Bugs every now and then09:37
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towsonu2003http://tinyurl.com/s4pvh -> Launchpad doesn't understand the form data submitted in this request.09:39
towsonu2003and hi :)09:39
dholbachhi towsonu2003 - happy hug day09:40
towsonu2003thanks, to you too09:40
UbugtuNew bug: #62568 in evince-gtk (main) "sync with evince 0.6.0 codebase" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6256809:41
dholbachtowsonu2003: where did you get that tinyurl link from?09:41
towsonu2003from the topic of this chatroom09:41
dholbachlalalalala09:41
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towsonu2003hehehe09:42
towsonu2003lol09:42
dholbachif somebody has a better link to plug in there: let me know ;)09:42
towsonu2003dholbach: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=datecreated&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=Needs+Info&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.owner=&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.status_upstream=&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.tag=&field.has_no_package.used=09:43
towsonu2003it lists all packages that are marked "needs info" from oldest to newest.09:43
towsonu2003it's not fun, but it's easier to do (closing those where no reply was given and so on)09:44
dholbachI think it'd make sense to ask to shrink the list of unconfirmed bugs09:44
dholbachI know that the other task is easier09:44
dholbachand we put some of those tasks on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Bugs already09:44
towsonu2003sure09:45
towsonu2003it's not a nice feeling to close bugs anyway...09:46
secretlondoncool09:48
dholbachtowsonu2003: it's a good feeling to be closing bugs, no? :)09:48
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towsonu2003dholbach: not really... I'd prefer to confirm them. with the link I provided, what you do is basically to close bugs where the user didn't show interest. but you know s/he had problems so much that s/he bothered to report them...09:54
towsonu2003:)09:54
dholbachok, there are always different reasons to close a bug :-)09:55
towsonu2003I wish I knew how to write patches -> then I would be closing the bugs for real I guess :) but, this will do for now ;)09:56
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towsonu2003dholbach: how'r things going for you?09:58
dholbachtowsonu2003: fine, I'm just going through loads and loads of mails since yesterday09:59
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dholbachand after that join the HUGging09:59
pepsimansecretlondon: get my pm?10:00
secretlondonpepsiman: yes10:01
secretlondonpepsiman: I'm not sure I have the technical skills to do that - it would involving learning packaging - which I should do at some point I know10:02
crimsun(there's a nice Packaging Guide in System> Help> System Documentation)10:02
TrewasCould I interest someone in https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/58927 ? It should be at least marked as dhcp3-client bug, so whoever is responsible for that package notices. A short background: a config change in dhcp3-client causes it to ask for interface-mtu, and some routers (for example mine) report way too low values -> Network won't work. It's quite nasty to debug when that happens, and it is a regression from dapper (dhcp3-client did not ask10:05
UbugtuMalone bug 58927 in Ubuntu "Network unreachable with Edgy" [Undecided,Confirmed] 10:05
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towsonu2003ubugtu is machine?10:07
secretlondona bot10:07
secretlondon!Ubugtu10:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Ubugtu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:08
towsonu2003just reporting newest bugs, or does it have other niceties10:08
secretlondon!ubotu10:08
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage10:08
secretlondonIt can tell you about other bugs10:08
towsonu2003oh how nice :)10:09
towsonu2003even has a wiki page: my bad - sorry10:10
towsonu2003have to leave, see you tomorrow (4am here)10:11
dholbachwhooo, I got aorund 2469742697429679426 debian bug watch update mails10:25
tarheelcoxnaround?10:25
tarheelcoxnthat's an awfully precise number for an estimate :)10:25
dholbachwho?10:25
dholbachah ok :)10:25
tarheelcoxnthat's more than a little mail10:26
tarheelcoxnin what timespan?10:26
dholbachno, maybe it was just 120 or something :)10:26
dholbachin some minutes10:26
dholbachit's a script that runs on launchpad and checks the upstream status of bugs10:26
dholbachtoday it queried the debian bts it seems ;)10:26
dholbachi'm going to check them to see if we can grab an easy fix10:27
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dholbachseb128: I added "bugs with patches attached" to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Bugs - as a task10:37
dholbachso we have 68 people in here... that's pretty cool10:39
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dholbach:-D10:39
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dholbacheverybody should shout in the bugs that were successfully closed :-)10:39
seb128grumpf10:43
seb128bug #6185310:43
UbugtuMalone bug 61853 in gtk+2.0 "libgtk2.0-0-dev needs libtiff4-dev" [Low,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6185310:43
seb128that's NOTABUG for sure10:43
seb128the guy seems to be pretty confused though10:43
seb128it does depends on it10:43
dholbachclose it10:45
=== Hobbsee wants a WONTFIX status in LP.
dholbach"gtk depends on tiff - that's a good thing" :)10:45
dholbachHobbsee: there is nothing to fix in that case10:45
=== Hobbsee also wants a THISISASTUPIDBUGGOAWAY status.
crimsunwoo!10:46
Hobbseedholbach: yeah, i was meaning in general10:46
crimsunbug 4481410:46
UbugtuMalone bug 44814 in linux-source-2.6.15 "No sound with Intel HDA/Realtek ALC861" [Medium,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4481410:46
Hobbseelike the root password bug i rejected earlier10:46
dholbachHobbsee: not sure if that conforms with the CoC10:46
Hobbseedholbach: bah.  pity10:46
crimsundholbach: there, a closed one :D10:46
dholbachcrimsun: YOU ROCK!10:46
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Hobbseedholbach: who conforms to that anyway?  *g*10:46
dholbachyoohoo :)10:47
=== Hobbsee filed a bug earlier, does that count, dholbach?
dholbachNO! :-)10:47
Hobbseeawwww....10:47
Hobbseeit was a sync request...10:48
Hobbseesurely that gets double points...10:48
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=== dholbach hugs Hobbsee ;-)
=== Hobbsee hugs dholbach :)
dholbachhey Bazzi - happy HUG DAY10:50
=== Bazzi hugs everybody at once ;)
seb128I've forwarded bug #62529 upstream10:51
UbugtuMalone bug 62529 in gnome-panel "Drag and drop of Bookmarks from Places menu copies entire directory" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6252910:51
dholbachseb128: rock on!10:52
=== dholbach is going through the old bugs without action for a while
BazziI'd just need one bugfix to close 27 open bugs at once ;-)10:53
dholbachBazzi: oh wow10:54
dholbachBazzi: which bug are you working on?10:54
Bazzidholbach: eclipse, but I got stuck with unsatisfied build-deps, Hobbsee tried to do something but was caught in having too much other work10:54
dholbachthat'd make a lot of people happy, I guess10:55
Bazzimy experience is just too little in order to fix it :(10:55
=== dholbach didn't look at eclipse for ages
HobbseeBazzi: and a merge.10:55
Bazzidholbach: yeah it's horribly broken atm :(10:56
dholbachmaybe it'd help to start a java team10:56
dholbachwith a bzr repository where you can work on Java packages together?10:56
dholbachso if you fix a tiny bit, somebody else can chip in their fixes10:57
dholbachwe did that for telepathy and are doing it for galago atm10:57
dholbachand it works super10:57
dholbachi think there's already a java team10:57
dholbachit'd just need a bit organisation10:57
dholbach... I guess10:57
Bazzi:)10:57
dholbachBazzi: are you interested in other java things as well?10:58
BazziI'm interested in working java software in ubuntu in general, yes10:58
dholbachi think there are some key apps that were nice to have10:58
dholbach(apart from eclipse)10:58
Bazzibut mainly eclipse-related10:58
dholbachlike azureus10:58
dholbachmany people would love to have it10:58
Bazziazureus is in the repos10:58
dholbachdoes it work ok?10:59
seb128I've fixed libgtk-java to be installable again some days ago10:59
Bazzino10:59
dholbachI know of: https://launchpad.net/people/motujava10:59
Bazziit fails without sun-java10:59
dholbachand https://launchpad.net/people/java-gnome-hackers10:59
Bazzisince eclipse and azureus both base on swt there's some common ground for fixes11:00
dholbachthat sounds good11:00
Bazziwe need upstream to (a) merge some fixes allowing swt to build against xulrunner11:00
dholbachand doko would be happy to have help with java bugs11:00
Bazziand (b) some better gcj love to help running it OK without sun java11:01
dholbachdoko maintains gcj11:01
dholbachand would be interested to have more free java love in ubuntu11:01
dholbachmaybe we should sit down and try to think of ways to improve a team structure around java11:01
Bazzitrue11:02
Bazzimaybe some long term goals would be fine11:02
dholbachyeah and work together on fixes11:03
dholbachmaintain an overview over bugs, etc11:03
dholbachhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/Telepathy/Modules and http://launchpad.net/people/telepathy/+packagebugs is things that work out well for that team11:04
dholbachso if the team could adopt packages and try to establish good communication with upstream: SCORE :-)11:04
dholbachusually it's just too much for one person to achieve11:04
Bazziat least eclipse/swt upstream are reasonable people, so there shouldn't be a problem11:05
dholbacheven better11:05
Bazzieven though they have made bad experiences with debian already11:05
dholbachit's make sense to try it ;-)11:06
Bazzimy suggestion would be to start eclipse packaging from scratch, using as few dependencies as possible, and as much as needed to make it 100% work OK (might mean to drop gcj support for the moment). what do you think?11:07
dholbachI can't tell hwo much of a good idea that is11:08
dholbachI'd suggest to talk to doko11:08
Bazzihm, might ne too much for edgy timeframe anyway11:08
dholbachhe's the java king - I'm just interested in having cool teams doing awesome stuff together11:08
Bazzibe*11:08
Bazziis he on irc regularly?11:08
dholbachyeah11:08
dholbachdoko_ on #ubuntu-devel11:08
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dholbachseb128: how is bug 37176 a control-center bug?11:17
UbugtuMalone bug 37176 in control-center "Beagle integration not complete" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/3717611:17
dholbachhey Lure11:17
seb128dholbach: the "preferred app" capplet could allow to pick a search command11:17
dholbachah ok11:18
dholbachI'll mark it as 'to-forward'11:18
seb128dholbach: or a gconf key for it11:18
dholbachright11:18
seb128dholbach: that's sort of gnome bug #30051411:19
UbugtuGnome bug 300514 in Keybinding "Player shortkeys and preferred applications" [Enhancement,New]  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30051411:19
dholbachsort of11:19
seb128dholbach: gnome bug #171871 too11:20
dholbachhello ubugtu11:20
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=== Ubugtu hugs dholbach
dholbachlalala11:20
seb128dholbach: gnome bug #171871 too11:20
seb128bah, stupid bot :p11:20
dholbachok got it, stupid bot11:21
dholbachright11:21
seb128mark is as forwarded on that one11:23
seb128I don't think we need zillion of bugs upstream for every command11:23
seb128just a "need a way to change apps started by multimedia keys"11:23
Bazziyay for firefox rc11:32
Bazziw/ less ugly theme11:32
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KamionHobbsee: that root account bug was a real installer bug - reopened and marked as duplicate11:53
Kamionand it's not as stupid a bug as you all thought, because there are a number of other reserved usernames that trigger the same bug11:54
Kamion"shadow" is a relatively common one people try that isn't obvious unless you know the system11:54
pepsimanwhere do bugs reported with dapper's bug buddy end up?11:54
dholbachpepsiman: bug-buddy bugs always end up at bugs.gnome.org11:58
pepsimanI can't find my bugs on there12:03
dholbachdid you set up a mail server on your box?12:04
dholbachbug-buddy in dapper still needed a locally set up mailserver12:04
pepsimanyes, and I told it to CC me, and I got the CC at my gmail address12:05
dholbachhm12:05
dholbachmaybe it takes a while?12:05
pepsiman2 days?12:06
dholbachstrange12:06
dholbachyou could ask in #bugs on irc.gnome.org12:06
HobbseeKamion: ah, gotcha12:08
HobbseeKamion: sorry about that12:08
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Kamionnp12:14
=== Hobbsee thougth it was "yet another stupid bug"
Hobbseeseems to be a fair few of them.12:15
Kamionfeel free to send stuff that looks like a stupid installer bug to me for stupidity assessment :)12:16
HobbseeKamion: heh, yeah, i think i did that earlier12:19
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TheMusoHobbsee: Have you read the changelog for the kernel? Something should be mentioned there about it.12:20
HobbseeTheMuso: it was a regression with dri - i couldnt tell which update broke it though12:20
TheMusoRight12:20
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HobbseeTheMuso: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-i810/+bug/6197912:27
UbugtuMalone bug 61979 in xserver-xorg-video-i810 "[Regression]  2.6.17-8-generic makes X crash if DRI is enabled in xorg.conf" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 12:27
TheMusoright12:28
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HobbseeTheMuso: still dead.12:34
TheMusodamn12:35
Bazzidamn, too, I got such a chip on my laptop :(12:37
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Hobbseehey cool, i got a reply on my bug.01:12
Hobbsee!xcfg01:14
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:14
=== dholbach still gest loads of bug watch updater mails
dholbachhow's the bug day going for all of you?01:15
UbugtuNew bug: #62569 in Ubuntu "Request: integrate Django framework in the repositories" [Low,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6256901:19
UbugtuNew bug: #62570 in Ubuntu "Library compatibility with debian? (Xara LX vector graphics)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6257001:19
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UbugtuNew bug: #62571 in soundconverter (universe) "Soundconverter silently fails when inadequate permissions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6257101:20
UbugtuNew bug: #62573 in firefox (main) "Firefox doesn't break lines after Thai" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6257301:20
UbugtuNew bug: #62572 in totem (main) "totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin is obsolete and should be removed" [Low,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6257201:21
UbugtuNew bug: #62509 in Ubuntu "access to root shell by aborting filesystem check" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6250901:23
UbugtuNew bug: #62574 in xserver-xorg-video-i810 (main) "Xorg/GDM restart randomly with i810" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6257401:23
UbugtuNew bug: #62575 in usplash (main) "Impossible to get console login with ctrl+alt+F1 and video sucks" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6257501:24
UbugtuNew bug: #62576 in Ubuntu "Dapper instalation freezes at 15% on sony vaio vgn-s5hp" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6257601:27
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bddebianBoo01:34
Hobbsee_boo!01:34
bddebianaaahhh01:34
ograbee01:34
bddebian:)01:34
=== Hobbsee_ notes that this is very weird.
=== Hobbsee_ commands the deity to fix her X.
=== Hobbsee_ pokes bddebian - fix my X, kthnksbye!
bddebianI'm outdated :-(01:37
UbugtuNew bug: #62590 in Ubuntu "openoffice.org FTBFS, when built on edgy's kernel" [High,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6259001:38
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pepsimanlo secretlondon01:49
secretlondonhi01:49
dholbachhiya secretlondon01:49
dholbachback already?01:49
secretlondonyeah - just had to do some shopping01:50
dholbachah ok01:51
pepsimansecretlondon: I sent you an e-mail01:55
secretlondonpepsiman: about your bug?01:56
pepsimanyep01:56
pepsimanyou didn't subscribe01:56
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secretlondonI've been trying not to subscribe to everything to avoid having 1000 emails02:00
secretlondonpepsiman: thanks. i'll do that02:01
UbugtuNew bug: #62580 in Ubuntu "Jigdo file for Desktop cd is missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6258002:04
UbugtuNew bug: #62582 in gnome-applets (main) "Frequency Scaling suddenly unsupported (Pentium-M)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6258202:04
UbugtuNew bug: #62583 in firefox (main) "[Edgy]  Firefox 1 RC1 Released..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6258302:04
secretlondonpepsiman: i've replicated02:04
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UbugtuNew bug: #62586 in notification-daemon (main) "[Edgy]  The bubble title uses too much lines" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6258602:05
UbugtuNew bug: #62587 in Ubuntu "The Arabic Write error !" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6258702:05
UbugtuNew bug: #62588 in Ubuntu "Time 12H format not include for SA" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6258802:05
UbugtuNew bug: #62589 in Ubuntu "Hejry Calendar not include in gnome" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6258902:05
UbugtuNew bug: #62591 in openoffice.org (main) "Cannot change path for openoffice templates" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6259102:05
UbugtuNew bug: #62592 in bug-buddy (main) "Doesn't display crashed program name" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6259202:05
UbugtuNew bug: #62593 in evolution-data-server (main) "Does not display alarms until I start evolution" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6259302:06
UbugtuNew bug: #62594 in Ubuntu "Device bluetooth not detected anymore" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6259402:06
UbugtuNew bug: #62596 in glibc (main) "ld.so.conf disappeared?" [High,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6259602:06
UbugtuNew bug: #62597 in glibc (main) "libc6-sparc64* are busted" [High,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6259702:06
UbugtuNew bug: #62599 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "installation fails with "return: 212: Illegal number: -1"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6259902:06
UbugtuNew bug: #62600 in grub (main) ""Single User mode" should be renamed" [Low,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6260002:06
pepsimansecretlondon: thanks02:07
UbugtuNew bug: #62601 in rhythmbox (main) "Art decoration causes crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6260102:07
dholbachholy cow!02:07
=== dholbach looks at the arabic write error
dholbachhm, not easy to figure out02:09
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UbugtuNew bug: #62603 in linux-source-2.6.17 "Function keys" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6260302:19
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UbugtuNew bug: #62602 in vmware-player (multiverse) "package configuration failure leads to reconfiguring every time a package gets installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6260202:37
UbugtuNew bug: #62604 in fontforge (main) "Segmentation fault on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6260402:39
UbugtuNew bug: #62605 in kdeaddons (main) "Java 6 System tray not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6260502:40
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UbugtuNew bug: #62606 in slashem (universe) "Missing folder" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6260602:50
UbugtuNew bug: #62607 in samba (main) "(smbfs, Dapper) multiple cifs issues" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6260702:50
Hobbseebug 5478802:51
UbugtuMalone bug 54788 in apache "apache don't install on Edgy (6.10)" [High,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5478802:51
UbugtuNew bug: #62608 in Ubuntu "getting cpuindex for acpiid 0xnn delay on booting Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6260802:58
UbugtuNew bug: #62610 in adept (main) "impossible to manager repositories" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6261002:58
UbugtuNew bug: #62609 in gnome-power-manager (main) "hibernate and suspend options missing from g-p-m menus" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6260903:00
UbugtuNew bug: #62611 in adept (main) "no help available when pressing F1" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6261103:00
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UbugtuNew bug: #62613 in kubuntu-meta (main) "Correct locale settings not set within KDE after installation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6261303:20
UbugtuNew bug: #62614 in linux-source-2.6.15 (main) "Kernel panic when hotsyncing palm." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6261403:20
UbugtuNew bug: #62615 in sleuthkit (universe) "Please sync sleuthkit (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6261503:20
dholbachhello everybody! welcome to another episode of the HUG DAY show!03:21
=== dholbach hugs hobbsee, thekorn, zul, tuxmaniac, yamal, neutrinomass, Lure
dholbachhow are you all doing?03:23
=== Hobbsee hugs dholbach. i'm good, ignoring my assignment
dholbach:-)03:23
tuxmaniacdholbach> today is HUG day?? bah..  I did not know that03:23
=== tuxmaniac hugs dholbach hard
dholbachlook at the topic! :-)03:23
tuxmaniacHobbsee> Hi..03:23
=== dholbach hugs tuxmaniac back
dholbachwelcome to the HUG DAY :)03:24
Hobbseehey tuxmaniac03:24
Hobbseeno it's not...it's not hug day...well, only for another 36 mins...03:24
neutrinomassgoodmorning dholbach :)03:24
tuxmaniacbddebian> Its HUG DAY :)03:24
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dholbachheya bddebian, hey neutrinomass :)03:24
=== dholbach hugs seb128
neutrinomassa hard core one too !03:24
=== seb128 hugs dholbach back
dholbachso which bugs are we cracking on today?03:25
bddebianHeya tuxmaniac, neutrinomass, dholbach03:25
Luredholbach: busy on meetings (not much time for ubuntu :-(( )03:25
seb128booting between dapper and edgy03:25
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=== dholbach shamelessly plugs http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Bugs again
=== tuxmaniac hugs back bddebian
=== dholbach hugs Lure anyway
bddebianhehe03:25
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UbugtuNew bug: #62616 in cupsys (main) "/etc/cups/client.conf is no more provided with cups in Dapper" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6261603:28
UbugtuNew bug: #62617 in Baltix (main) "Should not reboot after successful CD test by default." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6261703:28
dholbachsfllaw: happy HUG DAY03:28
dholbachare there any specific bugs you guys look at atm?03:29
seb128dholbach: trying to get valgrind working on amd64 edgy, no luck :/03:29
=== thekorn HUGS erveryone!
dholbachseb128: what does it say? or where does it complain?03:30
seb128"valgrind: m_debuginfo/storage.c:311 (vgModuleLocal_addDiCfSI): Assertion 'cfsi->len > 0 && cfsi->len < 2000000' failed."03:30
seb128when trying to run gedit (or probably any multithreaded program) with it03:31
dholbach*nod* I get that here too03:32
=== neutrinomass managed to sort of hack support into gnome-session, but it didn't turn out that good :(
neutrinomass*save session support, that is03:34
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seb128neutrinomass: UI change, or keyboard modifier to press when validating the action?03:36
neutrinomassseb128: UI change. I had some problems because I had compiz running (and for some reason it crashed gnome-session) and then I didn't like how no application supports it03:37
neutrinomassIt's actually a decent UI change, it adds a small checkbox under "suspend", but higher than cancel03:38
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Hobbseehttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/6155603:54
UbugtuMalone bug 61556 in kubuntu-default-settings "wireless wm168b in notebook pcchips a530" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 03:54
Hobbseewhere do i shove bugs like that?  i dont remember...03:54
seb128ok guys03:57
seb128I need a GIMP USER ;)03:57
seb128somebody who already used a "gaussian blur"03:58
seb128and can comment on bug #4854803:58
UbugtuMalone bug 48548 in gimp "broken gaussian blur" [Low,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4854803:58
dholbachseb128: ping jimmac or tigert :)03:59
ograsounds like he's trying to blur an indexed image ;)04:00
seb128ogra: does the behaviour looks wrong to you?04:01
seb128dholbach: no no, we have great people on that chan eager to participate, just wait, one will reply ;)04:01
ograseb128, blurring a transparent layer should only feather the edges ... if it turns to black it might be the wrong mode ... indexed pics beahve like that04:01
dholbachseb128: right! :)04:02
seb128ogra: maybe you could comment on the bug saying that? ;)04:02
UbugtuNew bug: #62618 in kubuntu-default-settings (main) "edgy default purple color ugly" [Wishlist,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6261804:03
seb128ah ah04:03
ograseb128, will do, even i cant confirm it due to lack of dapper here atm04:03
seb128"purple color ugly"04:03
Hobbseeyep04:03
seb128ogra: try on edgy if you know how to do04:03
seb128ogra: you might confirm or find it's fixed ;)04:04
seb128"I very much dislike the current purple color theme (window decorations and background) that kubuntu 6.10 has as default.04:04
seb128And I feel somwhow that I am not alone... I vote for revering it back to dappers default or choose some other blue color again that is not purple.."04:04
seb128typical rant on theme change04:04
Hobbseeyep04:04
dholbach"my working environment changed - HEEEEEEEEELP!"04:05
dholbach"Thanks for your comment. The changes you are requesting require more04:06
dholbachdiscussion and should rather be done on an appropriate mailing list or04:06
dholbachforum.04:06
dholbachhttp://www.ubuntu.com/community/forums/ might be a good start."04:06
ograseb128, works in edgy  ... commented ...04:06
dholbach=> Rejected :)04:06
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seb128ogra: thank you ;)04:06
ogra:)04:06
Hobbseedholbach: *grin*04:06
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Hobbseedholbach: no....dont get them on the mailing list too...04:06
seb128k, doing a small break and back to FORWARD SOME BUGS UPSTREAM ;)04:08
Hobbseehah04:08
Hobbsee"here.  you fix this, instead of us"04:08
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dholbachHobbsee: good thinking04:09
Hobbsee:P04:10
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UbugtuNew bug: #62619 in gnome-power-manager (main) ""interactive" option doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6261904:14
UbugtuNew bug: #62620 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Panasonic R4: hotkeys and s3 don't work in edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6262004:14
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UbugtuNew bug: #62621 in beagle (main) "beagle-search does not start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6262104:22
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sfllawHobbsee: Man, if you hadn't told me that, I would have so poured my tea all over dholbach's laptop.04:22
Hobbseesfllaw: *grin*04:23
Hobbseesfllaw: glad i stopped you then04:23
dholbachhmmmmm, tea04:28
dholbachbaklava04:28
dholbachgood music04:28
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dholbachhow's the rest of you guys doing?04:29
dholbachhi pschulz01_, Aikurn, lfittl04:29
dholbachhey mvo - how's the bug triage going?04:29
lfittlhey dholbach04:29
mvohey dholbach!04:29
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dholbachsfllaw: hey malakhi04:30
dholbachhappy hug day!04:30
malakhihello04:30
dholbachyou should all say when you close a bug or have to questions to a bug04:31
dholbachor we could pick a list of bugs together and shrink it to 0 :-)04:31
sfllawmalakhi: Psst.  I didn't say that.04:32
dholbachsfllaw: hmmmmm?04:32
sfllaw10:30 < dholbach> sfllaw: hey malakhi04:32
dholbachoops04:33
dholbachlalalala04:33
malakhii gathered as much04:33
malakhi:)04:33
dholbachnevermind me then :)04:33
sfllawdholbach: Do you think 19524 is actually a firefox bug?04:33
dholbachbug 1952404:33
UbugtuMalone bug 19524 in firefox "Firefox does not pay attention to GNOME DPI setting, nor work with its own setting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/1952404:33
sfllawdholbach: I don't see why firefox would care to import GNOME settings at all.04:33
dholbachI don't know enough about firefox gnome integration04:34
UbugtuNew bug: #62622 in Ubuntu "Power down does not complete" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6262204:34
Aikurnhi04:34
sfllawdholbach: I think there isn't any, really.04:34
dholbachgnome file selector!04:35
dholbachtake that!04:35
dholbach:-)04:35
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dholbachhi asimon04:35
asimonHello :)04:35
sfllawdholbach: Is that GNOME or GTK?04:35
sfllawI think it's the GTK file selector.04:36
mvodholbach: doing HW regression testing currently :)04:36
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mvowaves04:36
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sfllawmvo: Ave!04:36
dholbachsfllaw: yes, it is gtk file selector04:36
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dholbachbut there's firefox-gnome-support :-)04:37
dholbach This is an extension to Firefox that allows it to use protocol04:37
dholbach handlers from Gnome-VFS, such as smb or sftp, and other Gnome04:37
dholbach integration features.04:37
sfllawStylish!04:37
sfllawThanks for finding that.04:37
dholbachbut i'm not sure about printing stuff04:38
dholbachit'd surprise me very much if firefox knew anything about gtk 2.10 and printing04:38
dholbachoh no04:38
dholbachthat's about the screen04:38
dholbachdo you know where to specify the DPI?04:39
sfllawIn Firefox and GNOME, yes.04:40
dholbachwhere?04:40
sfllawIn Firefox, go to about:config.  In GNOME, go to System > Preferences > Font > Details.04:40
dholbachah details04:41
dholbachhmhmmh04:41
dholbachscreen.resolution doesn't seem to exist in edgy, does it?04:42
sfllaw?04:42
dholbachfirefox -> about:config -> screen:resolution ?04:43
dholbachi used 'screen.resolution' in the filter, but nothing came up04:43
UbugtuNew bug: #62623 in cdbs (main) "cdbs-edit-patch fails due to debian/rules whitespace" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6262304:43
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dholbachhey jikanter - happy hug day!04:44
dholbachnice, it's getting a bit more crowded in here :-)04:44
jikanterthanks04:44
asimondholbach: try screen_resolution04:44
dholbachno luck04:44
dholbachnothing with 'screen' either04:44
asimondholbach: I have a key here called browser.display.screen_resolution04:45
sfllawI wonder if setting browser.display.screen_resolution by hand still works?04:45
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sfllawOr layout.css.dpi.04:45
UbugtuNew bug: #62624 in gnome-system-tools (main) "netwok-admin doesn't store wireless card changes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6262404:47
UbugtuNew bug: #62625 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Notification of "Battery Charged" After every Login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6262504:47
neutrinomassbug 31011 - what "default soundcard" option does it refer to ?04:47
UbugtuMalone bug 31011 in control-center "Don't show "Default sound card" unless there is more than one card" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/3101104:47
dholbachneutrinomass: gnome-sound-properties - 2nd tab04:48
neutrinomassyep, there it is... thanks04:49
jikanterif no ubuntu bug exists in malone, where is it most likely to exist upstream?04:50
dholbachjikanter: which bug are you looking at?04:50
dholbachjikanter: or which package?04:50
jikantermdb viewer04:50
dholbachis that mdbtools-gmdb?04:51
UbugtuNew bug: #62626 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (main) "Random synaptics mouse input lockups" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6262604:51
jikanteryeah04:51
jikanterI just found it, thanks04:52
dholbachok, safest bet is to check /usr/share/doc/... ok :-)04:52
dholbachI think they're on sf.net04:52
dholbachwb seb128!04:57
seb128re dholbach :)04:58
neutrinomassbug 59580 seems to have been fixed in edgy - can somebody else please confirm ?04:58
UbugtuMalone bug 59580 in gnome-utils "Dictionary Panel applet results window poorly sized" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5958004:58
dholbachI still find it a bit small04:59
neutrinomasswhat did you search for ?05:00
dholbachtest05:00
dholbach;-)05:00
dholbachbut i only have a 1024x768 on the laptop, so maybe it depends on that *shrug*05:00
seb128neutrinomass: search for "ingress" as on the bug is still too small05:00
dholbachit seemed less small than in the bug report, though05:00
seb128it displays only05:00
seb128"Ingress \In"gress\, v. i.05:00
seb128   To go in; to enter. [R.] "05:00
seb128which is not a lot05:01
dholbachwe could mark it 'gnomelove' ;-)05:01
neutrinomasstrue... but it's an applet anyway .... Let's let upstream decide though ;)05:01
seb128right05:01
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zulinteresting dd is segfaulting on me05:12
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UbugtuMalone bug 31011 in control-center "Don't show "Default sound card" unless there is more than one card" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/3101105:13
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dholbachzul: you're not the only one05:14
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zuldholbach: oh goody05:16
pepsimanzul: LANG="" dd ...05:16
neutrinomasszul: Try with LANG=C (bug 42264 )05:16
UbugtuMalone bug 42264 in gettext "language pack po files drop cflag comment which causes segfaults in e. g. 'dd'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4226405:16
zulso i dont have to add a bug05:16
zulthanks05:16
dholbachseb128: what do you think about bug 32348?05:18
UbugtuMalone bug 32348 in gnome-applets "2 panel applets showing battery status on upgrades" [Low,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/3234805:18
dholbachthe last part suggests to mark battstat applet deprecated05:18
dholbachof course it's too late for edgy05:18
seb128mail ubuntu-devel or ubuntu-desktop list saying we want to deprecate it and ask if some people are still using it05:18
dholbachfor edgy+105:19
seb128deprecating it would also mean closing a stack or sucking bugs about it05:19
dholbachwhat about a new tag 'discussion'? :)05:19
seb128no :p05:19
dholbach"bugs to start threads about" :)05:19
seb128maybe a "discussion" team to Cc ;)05:19
dholbachoh man - better ont05:19
dholbachnot05:19
dholbachI know some people would love to 'make decisions' the whole day ;)05:20
seb128that would put the list one click away from the bug05:20
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seb128that's sort of what GNOME guys are doing for usuability, accessibility, etc05:20
dholbach*nod*05:20
dholbachok - I'll start a discussion team and put Mark into it ;-)05:20
seb128:)05:21
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dholbachhey gnomefreak05:23
dholbachhey geser05:23
geserhello05:24
dholbachHappy Hug Day!05:24
dholbachhow're you doing?05:24
gnomefreakhi dholbach05:24
gnomefreakim good and yourself?05:24
=== neutrinomass should find a faster way to report bugs upstream :-/
gnomefreakneutrinomass: script that will search :)05:24
UbugtuNew bug: #62628 in xserver-xorg-video-nv (main) "Edgy Desktop CD fails to initialize graphics device (regression to 6.06 LTS)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6262805:25
UbugtuNew bug: #62629 in kdegraphics (main) "Kamera ioslave is very slow" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6262905:25
UbugtuNew bug: #62630 in linux-source-2.6.17 "acpi bug in edgy eft" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6263005:25
dholbachgnomefreak: a bit tired but - i've been going through a bunch of old bugs and was able to close a bunch of them05:25
dholbachthat feels good ;)05:25
neutrinomassgnomefreak: I'm thinking of it right now05:25
gnomefreak.me hugs dholbach05:25
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neutrinomassgnomefreak: Not a script that will search (it's easier to do that manually) but a script that will grab from launchpad, fix up a bug report, ask you if you want ot make any changes and then send it to bugzilla ;)05:26
seb128launchpad should sort of do that one day05:26
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gnomefreakneutrinomass: a bit harder (longer) of a script05:26
gnomefreaklast i heard LP was making alot of changes on karma but thats all i have heard from LP people05:27
neutrinomassgnomefreak: Yeah, but more useful ;)05:27
gnomefreakneutrinomass: true05:27
neutrinomassThey added a bunch of karma for support requests05:27
gnomefreakthey did end up adding it?05:28
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neutrinomassgnomefreak: yep, for about a month now05:28
gnomefreakyeaht hats about when they were talking about it. someone came into -nun and was polling us on it05:29
gnomefreakwhere are maintainers when you need to yell at one :(05:29
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dholbach<- slacker05:30
gnomefreaklol05:30
gnomefreakdholbach: your around 2 million in karma i thought05:30
UbugtuNew bug: #62627 in debootstrap (main) "(Edgy, buildd variant) Couldn't find these debs: linux-kernel-headers" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6262705:31
UbugtuNew bug: #62631 in gnome-cups-manager (main) "Print a Test Page button on printer properties." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6263105:31
dholbach6,38 - but only 5,26 in bugs05:31
dholbachlook at seb's stats05:31
gnomefreakah05:31
neutrinomasswith all that karma inflation in about a year we'll need standard form notation for it :-/05:31
dholbachkarma inflation!05:32
gnomefreakLp was talking about splitting up karma also.05:32
dholbachI'm working hard for that! ;-)05:32
neutrinomassdholbach: Seriously. Even if you don't do _anything_, it still increases05:32
gnomefreakneutrinomass: it didnt used to. it used to go down :(05:33
dholbachneutrinomass: I'd love to try, but then seb128 would hit me05:33
neutrinomassIncreases in the karma are mainly due to inflation, not additional work (of course, it increases exponentially )05:33
neutrinomassgnomefreak: I know ;)05:33
gnomefreakwe didnt package the new nvidia drivers did we?05:33
gnomefreakthe 9 series05:34
neutrinomassdholbach: Translate a single string, and then watch your translation karma grow ;) Mine tripled in a month :005:34
seb128dholbach: I'm fine if you try after beating me at bug karma so I can beat you again ;)05:34
dholbachseb128: I can't imagine that day05:34
seb128come on, have a try ;)05:35
zulheh in half hour ill fix a bug..05:43
seb128anybody wanting to forward a GNOME bug upstream? bug #53132 is a feature request for an utc time-admin option05:43
UbugtuMalone bug 53132 in gst "[time-admin]  We need a GUI to enable/disable utc" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5313205:43
seb128zul: which one? ;)05:43
zulxen on 2.6.1705:44
seb128ah, nice05:44
zulthat and a couple of kernel bugs later of course :)05:44
seb128rock on05:44
sfllawGah!  I wish people would stop sending me spam entitled "QA Bug Report"05:51
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=== seb128 just forward bug #52471 upstream
UbugtuMalone bug 52471 in gnome-games "gnometris:  mistake after changing the theme" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5247105:51
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seb128marked as forwarded rather, there was a bug already opened upstream, I updated it too05:52
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UbugtuNew bug: #62633 in gparted (main) "Only First Hard Drive Accessible" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6263305:55
neutrinomassseb128: forwarded 53132 :)05:56
pepsimangst isn't maintained05:57
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seb128;)05:57
seb128pepsiman: gst is maintained, it switched to new infrastructure using dbus during the edgy cycle05:57
seb128pepsiman: lot of bugs have been fixed05:58
seb128pepsiman: and upstream worked on a bounty to fix some of the issues we had with it05:58
neutrinomassseems that the maintainer doesn't pay a lot of attention to the bugzilla though :-/ I've filed a few gst reports, none got a reply05:58
Kamion62633 is a duplicate - I must work on that post-beta05:58
pepsimanhmm, maybe it's just disks admin which isn't maintained05:58
seb128pepsiman: disks-admin is not really maintained, the maintainer is not the same as for the other tools and seems to be busy too06:00
seb128pepsiman: that tools has been dropped for edgy06:00
neutrinomasspepsiman: the most troublesome part is that the requests for adsl modems are being ignored (or overlooked )  :(06:00
seb128it needs to be rewritten for new architecture06:00
seb128and to use hal instead of doing parsing06:00
pepsimananyone want to confirm bug 61834 ?06:01
UbugtuMalone bug 61834 in hal "SD slot on 7-in-1 USB card reader not recognised as SD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6183406:01
=== seb128 has no such device
gnomefreakwho does screensaver bugs for gnome? gnome-desktop?06:07
Kamionogra06:07
Kamiongnomefreak: ^--06:07
gnomefreakKamion: ty06:08
Kamionat least, last I checked06:08
UbugtuNew bug: #62636 in quodlibet (universe) "crash during run" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6263606:08
Kamionhe's still marked as the bug contact for gnome-screensaver, so just stick them on that package06:08
gnomefreakk ty06:11
pepsimanseb128: I don't think you need the hardware to understand the bug06:13
gnomefreakanyone want to confirm bug 61775   (was kind of hoping to see if this is an issue for anyone else and to see if we can get it fixed for edgy)06:14
UbugtuMalone bug 61775 in gnome-screensaver "[Edgy]  WebCollage screensaver doesnt work " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6177506:14
gnomefreakpepsiman: to confirm it it has to happen here. without the hardware we wont ever see the issue ;)06:14
pepsimangnomefreak: How can I proceed with this bug then?06:15
gnomefreakpepsiman: let me look at it brb06:16
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gnomefreaki guess hope martin pitt knows about the issue or can look into it.06:18
gnomefreakpepsiman: its just a naming issue?06:18
pepsimanyes06:19
seb128pepsiman: looking06:20
pepsimanthe hardware manufacturer has given the device an unusual name for one slot06:20
pepsimanthe other slots are fine06:20
gnomefreakpepsiman: it reads fine though?06:21
seb128pepsiman: ask pitti about it when he's around06:21
UbugtuNew bug: #62637 in banshee (universe) "AudioScrobbler plugin only reports tracks which were manually played" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6263706:21
UbugtuNew bug: #62638 in Ubuntu "/home full -> can't log in to gnome" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6263806:21
pepsimangnomefreak: yeah, just the wrong icon on the desktop06:21
ogragnomefreak, thats a duplicate of another g-s-s bug ... i have a fix for it, will upload after beta06:21
seb128pepsiman: I've pointed it to pitti06:22
gnomefreakogra: ok thank you  can i close this one i filed than?06:22
ogragnomefreak, essentially its just missing the netpbm dependency06:22
gnomefreakah ok06:22
ogragnomefreak, i'll go over the g-s-s bugs next week06:22
gnomefreakogra: ok thank you06:22
=== neutrinomass found and is fixing a bug in Yelp :-)
seb128neutrinomass is on fire today ;)06:24
neutrinomass;)06:24
pepsimanI had bug 62638 with my edgy install in qemu06:24
UbugtuMalone bug 62638 in Ubuntu "/home full -> can't log in to gnome" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6263806:24
neutrinomasspepsiman: That's a dupe !06:24
pepsimank06:24
neutrinomassThere are 4-5 bugs /somewhere/ in launchpad about this problem06:25
neutrinomassI'll try to find one06:25
gnomefreakseb128: bug 49920  what would you do with this. there hasnt been a dup i can find on this and he is the only one with this issue.06:25
UbugtuMalone bug 49920 in openoffice.org "Doesnt start with openoffice.org-gnome and openoffice.org-gtk installed" [Medium,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4992006:25
neutrinomasspepsiman: Out of curiosity: is /home on a seperate partition ?06:25
geserI'm trying to rebuild php4 (for some security fixes) but it ftbfs as it build-depends on libdb4.3-dev (through apache2-mpm-prefork-dev) and libdb4.4-dev (directly and through apache-common) and both libdb4.x-dev can't be installed at the same time06:27
geserhas someone an idea how to resolve it?06:27
seb128gnomefreak: let it open until than somebody who has a clue ask the right question or figure what is wrong06:27
seb128gnomefreak: maybe change the importance to low06:28
gnomefreakk06:28
pepsimanneutrinomass: in my qemu edgy install I only have the one partition06:30
gnomefreakwe changed the link for the bugs?06:30
neutrinomasspepsiman: ok06:31
neutrinomassbug 4714506:31
UbugtuMalone bug 47145 in Ubuntu "It's not possible to login through GUI when disk is full" [High,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4714506:31
pepsimanneutrinomass: I'm not the reporter of 6263806:31
neutrinomasspepsiman: ahh, ok06:31
pepsimanneutrinomass: and I couldn't work out how to send ctrl+alt+fx in qemu06:33
neutrinomassActually I'm not sure if 62638 is a dupe of 47145. Login can fail for 3 reasons: 1. No space on /home , 2. No space on /tmp  I'm not sure if both can be fixed in the same way :-/06:33
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neutrinomassany advice on if it should be marked as a dupe ?06:34
dholbachwow - good work everybody!06:36
dholbachlooks like once I leave you guys alone, the party is going on in here :)06:36
gnomefreak:)06:37
pepsimanneutrinomass: They are related, but not identical. Ideally the fix would work for both06:39
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neutrinomassyeah.... should I bump 62638's importance as well ?06:40
pepsimanyeah06:41
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UbugtuNew bug: #62640 in yelp (main) "Does not save browse with caret setting" [Low,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6264006:46
UbugtuNew bug: #62641 in lhs2tex (universe) "Hello World fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6264106:46
UbugtuNew bug: #62639 in mplayer (multiverse) "Error related with mp3lib" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6263906:47
UbugtuNew bug: #62642 in nautilus (main) "files deleted from usb storage devices mishandled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6264206:47
UbugtuNew bug: #62643 in initramfs-tools (main) "mkinitramfs has a buggy verbose mode" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6264306:47
UbugtuNew bug: #62644 in ubiquity (main) "Various freezes with ubiquity on AMD64 Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6264406:47
UbugtuNew bug: #62645 in mplayer (multiverse) "mplayer doesn't load subtitles" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6264506:48
UbugtuNew bug: #62646 in kdepim (main) "kmail displays meeting invitation times in GMT" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6264606:50
UbugtuNew bug: #62647 in xorg (main) "Random "Failed to start x server" on Dapper LTS" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6264706:50
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dholbachhey thekorn, robitaille, did44706:51
matsubaradoes anybody knows if there's a way to highlight messages per channel in X-chat? I configured my 'Extra words to highlight:' preference to highlight the "New bug:" string but I'm not really interested in New bugs in ubuntu. :)06:52
robitaillehi dholbach06:55
dholbachhappy hug day!06:55
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dholbachhi Fracture06:55
Fracturedholbach: hi, do I know you ?06:56
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dholbachFracture: no, probably not - I was just welcoming everybody to the HUG DAY! :-)06:58
dholbachhi boricua06:58
dholbachHow are you guys doing?06:58
boricuahowdy06:58
Fracturedholbach: aah, cool, no worries.06:58
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dholbachneutrinomass: on which list of bugs are you working?06:58
dholbachwb Lure06:58
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dholbach:-)06:59
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boricuagnomefreak: did you have a change to look at the 5264806:59
neutrinomassdholbach: I forwarded a few upstream, quick glance through old needsinfo and I'm trying to sort out a yelp issue now06:59
boricuachance not change06:59
dholbachneutrinomass: WOW06:59
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dholbachneutrinomass: you rock06:59
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neutrinomassand the weirdest thing is happening: I'm calling gtk_toggle_set_active(blah,FALSE) and the widget is becoming insensitive :-/ I tried setting it to sensitive after that, and it still is insensitive07:00
gnomefreakbug 5264807:00
UbugtuMalone bug 52648 in gnome-network "locks system configring linksys card" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5264807:00
gnomefreakboricua: give me a sec i forgot about it07:00
neutrinomassdholbach: If I rock, then a new word needs to be invented for most of the people in this channel ;)07:00
boricuagnomefreak: ok07:00
neutrinomassBy the way, I hope you all noticed that for the last couple of days the bug count is _constant_ if not decreasing :)07:01
UbugtuNew bug: #62648 in oem-config (main) "immediately crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6264807:01
UbugtuNew bug: #62649 in evolution (main) "Message window hangs in Evolution" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6264907:01
sfllawneutrinomass: Obviously, this is because of the beta freeze.  People aren't putting in new bugs.07:02
gnomefreakboricua: i cant do nothing with it now.07:02
sfllaw;)07:02
neutrinomassboricua: That's probably a kernel bug you've got there07:02
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dholbachthat's because some people are working on bugs07:02
gnomefreakcan anyone confirm bug 5264807:02
UbugtuMalone bug 52648 in gnome-network "locks system configring linksys card" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5264807:02
boricua52348 is similar to 4046007:02
sfllawboricua: Agreed about a kernel bug.  Can you find anything in /var/log/kern.log that looks like an Oops or Panic?07:03
boricuai meant 52648 is similar to 4046007:03
neutrinomassboricua: system lockups/crashes, AFAIK at least, can only be attributed to X or kernel ....07:03
gnomefreakboricua: i dont have a lnksys card but mine doesnt freeze up07:03
neutrinomassboricua: ubuntu 6.06 ?07:03
boricuagnomefreak: this one is usb07:03
boricuayes 6.0607:03
boricuausb wireless07:04
boricuasfllaw, no msg in log07:07
neutrinomassboricua: Do "lspci -vv > lspci-vv.log", "lspci -vvn > lspci-vvn.log" and "dmesg > dmesg.log" and attach them to the bug report please07:10
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boricuais this important Sep 27 13:10:49 localhost kernel: [17179939.788000]  rausb0: unable to signal thread  yes 6.0607:13
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UbugtuNew bug: #62650 in ubiquity (main) "second hdd is not available under partition manager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6265007:13
CarlFKin LP, is "fix released" all that needs to be set to close a bug?07:14
sfllawCarlFK: Closure is automatic after that, yes.07:14
CarlFKthanks07:14
boricuaneutrinomass: adding the code you requested to bug now07:14
neutrinomassboricua: great07:16
boricuaneutrinomass:can i attach both in one shot07:19
boricuaneutrinomass: there both empty files07:19
neutrinomassboricua: Hm... they shouldn't be07:20
boricuai cut and paste the commad07:20
boricualspci -vv > lspci-vv.log", "lspci -vvn > lspci-vvn.log" and "dmesg > dmesg.log" and attach them to the bug report please07:21
neutrinomassboricua: Are you sure you did it correctly? Open up a terminal , type those three. The files will then be in the "/home/boricua" directory07:21
boricuaindeed i see the files size 0 2 files07:21
boricuadmseg has but not the other ones07:21
neutrinomassboricua: It's not one command, it's three commands07:21
boricualet me retry07:21
neutrinomassboricua: So if you go to a terminal and type "lspci", nothing shows up ?!07:22
boricuano my mistake  doing it over07:22
UbugtuNew bug: #62651 in fetchyahoo (universe) "[edgy]  errors while checking yahoo email" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6265107:24
boricuaneutrinomass:uploading07:26
boricuaneutrinomass:finish uploading 3 files07:27
neutrinomassboricua: Well done! Now please be patient until a kernel developer has time to take a look at it :)07:28
boricuaneutrinomass:  i will and i have its been a while :-)  very patient :-)07:29
UbugtuNew bug: #62652 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "regression in ide-cd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6265207:29
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UbugtuNew bug: #62653 in syslog-ng (universe) "syslog-ng misses first few kernel messages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6265307:31
zuldholbach: hah..07:34
zulxen-image-xen0-2.6.17-1-generic-xen0_2.6.17-1_i386.deb07:34
dholbachROCK!07:34
dholbach&me hugs zul07:35
dholbachneat!07:35
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zulyay! :)07:35
zulheh now for server, big-iron and amd6407:35
FireRabbitwoo07:36
UbugtuNew bug: #62654 in xserver-xgl (universe) "SHIFT+BACKSPACE kill Xgl" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6265407:36
FireRabbitzul: i look forward to testing the amd64 kernel on my server.. i am having *horrible* problems right now07:36
zulFireRabbit: this is the same kernel that is in edgy execpt for it adds edgy07:38
FireRabbiter adds xen?07:38
zulyeah..07:38
FireRabbitah, yeah, well i'm currently running a dapper system using the xen kernel from their binary distribution, and have horrible horrible problems keeping the time (i.e., it doesn't happen), so maybe a newer kernel will work better07:39
UbugtuNew bug: #62655 in openoffice.org (main) "Clicking on links in documents in OpenOffice.org doesn't bring Firefox in foreground" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6265507:41
pepsimanneither does clicking links anywhere else07:41
FireRabbityeah, thats a bug in firefox if anything07:42
pepsimanis it a bug or a feature?07:44
FireRabbitdepends who you ask I suppose :)07:44
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FireRabbitmight want to check the mozilla bugzilla07:45
pepsimanI've never found a bug in there07:45
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neutrinomassIn what package do X autoconfiguration bugs belong ? xorg or xorg-server ?07:46
UbugtuNew bug: #62656 in gnome-applets (main) "volume applet weird functioning" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6265607:47
zulFireRabbit: ah i c07:48
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UbugtuNew bug: #62657 in Ubuntu "Trying to use KDE icon theme in Gnome makes him unstartable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6265708:10
UbugtuNew bug: #62658 in uqm (multiverse) "uqm not installable in Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6265808:16
UbugtuNew bug: #62659 in python-libgmail (universe) "New upstream version available: libgmail 0.1.5.1" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6265908:16
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sfllawneutrinomass: xserver-xorg contains the autodetection script in the debconf.08:27
pepsimanIs bug 62655 a duplicate of bug 41623?08:37
UbugtuMalone bug 62655 in openoffice.org "Clicking on links in documents in OpenOffice.org doesn't bring Firefox in foreground" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6265508:37
UbugtuMalone bug 41623 in firefox "Firefox windows do not get focus when launched" [Medium,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4162308:37
neutrinomasssfllaw: Ok, thanks08:38
neutrinomasssfllaw: That's where I used to put them, but now I get a 404 https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg08:40
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UbugtuNew bug: #62660 in gtk+2.0 (main) "File Chooser: changing the path in the location bar does not update list view" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6266008:47
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UbugtuNew bug: #62661 in banshee (universe) "Unable to change rating of selected song" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6266108:53
gnomefreakpepsiman: sounds like it would be. I would ask the reporter of 62655 if it only happens in OO.o. if only happens in OO.o than it might be  a different issue08:56
pepsimangnomefreak: it happens running "firefox url" in a terminal08:57
gnomefreak62655 does?08:57
pepsimangnomefreak: how can I run a different window manager to test if it's metacity?08:57
pepsimangnomefreak: yes08:57
gnomefreakpepsiman: log into another DE like kde or xfce08:57
gnomefreakand try it08:57
pepsimanwhat do I install for that?08:58
gnomefreakpepsiman: xubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop  (there are other ways but i have 5-6 DE's on my pc all times )08:58
blue-frogwould there by any arguments I could pass at livecd boot time to try avoiding an initramfs issue? (cp unable to open /root/var/log, mounting /root/.dev on /dev/.static failed...target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init08:59
blue-frogthe weird thind is it works on a del ^!) but on my vaioFS2108:59
blue-frogdell61008:59
pepsimangnomefreak: thx09:00
gnomefreakpepsiman: yw09:00
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blue-frogif I have mounting /cdrom on /root/cdrom failed: invalid argument.  which program should I incriminate to file a bug report?09:19
blue-frogfrom live cd daily live 2006092709:19
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UbugtuNew bug: #62664 in adesklets (universe) "Desklets appear above other windows momentarily" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6266409:31
sfllawneutrinomass: xorg seems to be the source package now.09:34
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UbugtuNew bug: #62666 in nano (main) "Nano breaks bash scripts with default config in edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6266609:53
UbugtuNew bug: #62667 in gnome-app-install (main) "Is Omnis Studio 4.1.1-0 really a software supported in EdgyEft by Ubuntu?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6266709:56
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pepsimangnomefreak: under xfce firefox does the same for new tabs, but new windows grab focus, so I think it's a different bug10:01
gnomefreakpepsiman: ok10:02
dholbachwoah, lots of new people in here!10:03
dholbachhow's the HUG DAY going?10:03
UbugtuNew bug: #62668 in gksu (main) "[Edgy]  Some strings can't be translated" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6266810:04
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dholbachgood night10:16
dholbachand happy hugging!10:16
sfllawdholbach: Night.10:16
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lfittlgn8 dholbach10:17
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UbugtuNew bug: #62673 in gnome-app-install (main) "Add filter for Ubuntu/Kubuntu/..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6267310:20
UbugtuNew bug: #62675 in sudo (main) "cd not recognised by sudo" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6267510:25
UbugtuNew bug: #62669 in gnome-app-install (main) "[Edgy]  No package information about packages that are not supported by Ubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6266910:28
UbugtuNew bug: #62670 in Ubuntu "Cannot boot Edgy on Acer Aspire 5003 WLMi" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6267010:28
blue-frogwhen booting the live cd , have a way to connect ausb flash drive when I hit initramfs so that i can copy whatever logs needed to file a bug report?10:33
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UbugtuNew bug: #62676 in usplash (main) "[edgy]  splash screen on startup needs to give feedback" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6267610:41
UbugtuNew bug: #62677 in gnome-network (universe) "Automatic service discovery are not activated when I click on the box for it" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6267710:46
UbugtuNew bug: #62678 in xorg (main) "In gdm or an X term, I can't use alphanumerical symbols in my password" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6267810:46
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matidHi everyone10:50
UbugtuNew bug: #62679 in Ubuntu "live cd stops at initramfs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6267910:56
UbugtuNew bug: #62680 in ez-ipupdate (universe) "Unable to create PID file after reboot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6268010:56
sfllawblue-frog: In the initramfs?10:57
sfllawProbably not.  There aren't a lot of drivers there.10:57
blue-frogsfllaw: well it stops at initramfs see  #6267910:58
sfllawIck.10:59
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UbugtuNew bug: #62681 in update-manager (main) "[Edgy]  Many translations still missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6268111:15
ph8that's a very general bug11:16
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towsonu2003hi :)11:19
pepsimanph8: not if you look at it11:25
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towsonu2003everyone fighting with the bugs?11:37
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pepsimannight all11:41
UbugtuNew bug: #62683 in popularity-contest (main) "Tries to send reports via e-mail although HTTP has been selected" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6268311:42
UbugtuNew bug: #62684 in ubiquity (main) "Failed Install Poweredge 6350 Perc 2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6268411:42
pschulz01_Someone ping me? (are there logs anywhere?)11:43
towsonu2003ouch, so many "installer crashed" bugs...11:47
towsonu2003do you have any pointers on how to handle requests for new versions of packages?11:52
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geserhave you an example bug?11:54
towsonu2003yep, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-ntfs/+bug/5417911:55
UbugtuMalone bug 54179 in Baltix "2 new upstream ntfsprogs versions (1.13.0 and 1.13.1) were released a half year ago !" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 11:55
towsonu2003and unstable has it: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/otherosfs/ntfsprogs11:56
UbugtuNew bug: #62685 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "[Edgy regression]  Hostap driver for PRISM2 wifi card not working any more" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6268511:56
towsonu2003what do I do with this info now? ehueh11:56
crimsunthe only problem is that we're way past UVF for main packages11:56
crimsun[linux-ntfs |   1.12.1-1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Sources] 11:57
towsonu2003I could confirm it for the next release11:57
towsonu2003it's unconfirmed, which iseems inaccurate11:57
crimsunI'd mark it wishlist with a note for Edgy+111:57
crimsunsure, Confirm+Wishlist11:57
crimsunjust as long as it's clear that it won't make Edgy11:58
towsonu2003I can't mark their importance, I'll confirm11:58
towsonu2003thanks :)11:58
UbugtuNew bug: #62686 in xkeyboard-config (main) "ca(fr) layout is not included in /etc/X11/xkb/rules/base.xml" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6268612:02

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