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Burgundaviaelkbuntu: you up?07:59
poningruyarr me mateys07:59
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Madpilothi Burgundavia07:59
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Burgundaviahey poningru, Madpilot: fancy a job?08:00
Madpilotpaid? ;)08:00
Burgundaviano08:01
Madpilotwell, OK. What's it involve?08:01
Burgundaviafinishing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Beta08:01
Madpilotwhat needs doing?08:02
Burgundaviamake certain it includes everything new in Edgy since Dapper08:03
Burgundaviayou can use the existing Knot pages to build it08:03
Burgundavianeeds to be done by 28th08:03
Madpilothmm, I've no idea what that would include, to be honest08:03
Burgundavialook at the previous Knot pages08:05
Burgundaviacopy the content over08:05
Burgundaviaclean it up08:05
Burgundavianot hard08:05
=== Burgundavia grumbles about other people not doing anything
MadpilotBurgundavia, *everything* from the Knot2/Knot3 pages? They're fairly long pages in their own right...08:09
Burgundaviajust the big stuff08:09
Burgundaviause discretion08:09
Burgundaviatell people about why the want edgy08:11
MadpilotTomboy! Tomboy! Tomboy! ;)08:13
Burgundaviayep08:13
Madpilothey, it helps keep all those stupid little scraps of paper from lurking under my keyboard...08:15
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elkbuntuBurgundavia, i am now, are you still?08:53
Burgundaviaelkbuntu: sort of08:54
Burgundaviaelkbuntu: can you help Madpilot with the Beta page?08:54
elkbuntusure08:54
Burgundaviathanks08:54
elkbuntucan i ask you something about the stickers from sys76?08:54
Madpilotelkbuntu, go nuts, I've barely touched it08:54
Burgundaviasure08:58
elkbuntuhave you actually received the stickers or has the shipping company drag toes with you too?08:58
elkbuntuhttp://www.dhl.com.au/publish/au/en/eshipping/track.high.html?pageToInclude=RESULTS&AWB=8915500764&type=fasttrack08:58
Burgundaviathey arrived, but I wasn't able to pay them the $3008:58
elkbuntuo.O08:58
elkbuntuthey wanted you to pay?!08:58
MadpilotBurgundavia, so where are the stickers now? Heading back to System76?08:58
Burgundaviayou realize that I am sitting less than 200 miles from sys76?08:58
Burgundaviathey are in Denver08:58
BurgundaviaMadpilot: no, waiting at DHL until I get back08:58
Madpilothmm... didn't you fly into Denver?08:58
Burgundaviayes, but I am spending no time08:58
Burgundaviaelkbuntu: have you contacted DHL and provided them the details they need?08:58
Madpilotarrange for someone from s76 to meet you at the airport08:58
elkbuntuthe address thing only just showed up now08:58
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elkbuntuBurgundavia, btw, did you knwo about this?: http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=2006091809:30
Burgundaviaelkbuntu: yes, i saw it09:31
elkbuntui didnt until last night... its been the primary link-based traffic source for the surveys09:32
Burgundaviacool09:37
BurgundaviaI don't think it made last weeks UWN09:37
Burgundaviaplease add it09:37
elkbuntuk09:38
Burgundavia"As Debian [3] experiments10:19
Burgundaviawith funding, the author of DWN is going to experiment with spending10:19
Burgundavialess time on Debian. Please understand that due to this there may be10:19
Burgundaviano future issues of DWN in the current form or that they will only be10:19
Burgundaviareleased less frequently.10:19
Burgundavia"10:19
elkbuntu:|10:21
elkbuntuwow10:22
Burgundavia"Debian is experimenting while Dunc-Tank is officially outside of10:22
BurgundaviaDebian. So it already failed to be seen as a separate entity."10:22
Burgundavialittle bit of editorizing there10:22
elkbuntuheh10:22
elkbuntusounds like the claws are out anyway10:26
Madpiloteditorializing is good10:42
Madpilotor at least, amusing10:42
elkbuntudid anyone see any response from keybuk about this week's UWN?10:46
klepasgood evening10:55
klepasor morning/afternoon as the case might be for everyone else :)10:55
elkbuntu:)10:55
MadpilotBurgundavia, random flying video - Boeing test footage, looks like, too bad about the soundtrack someone added... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljOxo0s33sI&mode=related&search=10:56
klepassound track is from the group Enigma10:58
Madpilothttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMPL8lcTq40&mode=related&search=   <-- much better music for airplane videos ;)11:05
elkbuntuMadpilot, lol. 'can i play with madness' would also rock, but for different reasons :)11:09
Madpilotheh11:09
Madpilotneed to shut down, or I'll stay on YouTube watching airplane vids all night11:10
Madpilotlater, all11:10
elkbuntulol11:11
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poningruBurgundavia: when is beta coming out?02:57
poningru28th?02:57
elkbuntuyes, allegedly02:59
poningrusweet working on beta notes03:01
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poningruhow are ya elkbuntu?03:01
elkbuntucool. im good thanks, you?03:01
poningrumeh couple of exams coming up... so kinda jittery03:02
elkbuntuhehe03:02
Kamping_Kaiserponingru, i feel for you mate03:02
poningru:)03:02
Kamping_Kaiser:)03:02
Kamping_Kaiserperhaps :| is more apropriate though ;)03:03
poningruyeah ff rc1 was just released and our qa server went kablooie shortly afterward so that didnt help either03:03
Kamping_Kaiserff2?03:03
poningrupoor zach03:03
poningruyeah03:03
=== Kamping_Kaiser wondesr if it still crashes on 50% of the sites on the interweb
poningruwoah03:05
poningruuh... thats not normal at all03:05
poningruwhich sites?03:05
Kamping_Kaiser:S03:05
poningrugranted I am not using ubuntu one03:05
Kamping_Kaiserdont remember - i'd have to go and try and crash it. iirc there was some really werid ones like novell.com03:05
Kamping_Kaiserplaces i needed to visit ;)03:05
Kamping_KaiserBOOM!03:06
poningruoh hehe ... there is a particular site inside novell that takes the longest time to load... dont know if thats what you are talking about03:06
Kamping_Kaisernovell.com still works03:06
poningrubut no crash though03:06
Kamping_Kaiserthis is a good old fashioned 'omg wherse my browser gone' crash03:06
poningruah thats weird03:06
poningruyeah please do tell me the sites03:07
Kamping_Kaiserponingru, i cant remember off the top of  my head, they were just stragnly obvios (like novell)03:07
=== Kamping_Kaiser rm -r's .firefox
poningru.firefox? wtf03:08
poningru.mozilla03:08
Kamping_Kaiserfine then03:08
Kamping_Kaiseri was still closing ff. i hadnt got that far :P03:08
poningru;)03:09
Kamping_Kaiseroh, cute. its my .mozilla dir.03:09
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poningruhmm how old is your .mozilla?03:10
poningrulike .8.x old?03:10
poningrucause thats the only way it should be crashing like that03:11
Kamping_Kaiserum.03:11
poningruif its 1.0.x or later it shouldnt crash like that03:11
Kamping_Kaisernot sure if its a dapper or breezy upgraded, but defintely nothing before that03:11
poningruunless you have like crazy extensions03:11
Kamping_Kaiseri think it was dapper03:11
poningruwhat extensions?03:11
Kamping_Kaiseri had 2 or 3 extentions, disabled03:11
Kamping_Kaiserum.03:11
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poningruit should be under your extensions folder03:12
Kamping_Kaiseren_gb lang pack and addblock spring to mind03:12
Kamping_Kaiseri'll check then03:12
Kamping_Kaiser~/.mozilla/plugins?03:12
poningruhmm03:14
poningruoh no03:14
poningruextensions03:14
poningruin the profiles folder03:14
poningru.mozilla/firefox/xxxxxxxxx.default/extensions03:15
poningruKamping_Kaiser: hmm yeah the lang pack is the only thing I can think of...03:16
Kamping_Kaiserponingru, i had web developer, adblock and the lang pack03:16
Kamping_Kaiserlooks like the lang pack was 'properly' installed, not done by me03:16
poningruhmm oh that must have been a locale build then03:17
poningrunm03:17
poningruweird... no clue why it would do that03:17
Kamping_Kaiseri say properly, because its got stuff in /blah/lib/blah03:17
Kamping_Kaiser:(03:17
poningrutry this removing the userpref.js03:18
poningrustore that somewhere else03:18
poningruyou didnt actually rm -r your profile right?03:18
Kamping_Kaiserno03:18
Kamping_Kaisermoved it aside :)03:18
Kamping_Kaiser./firefox/9qwe2p9h.default/prefs.js <-? that one03:19
poningruerr yeah03:19
poningrumake sure you do this when ff is closed03:19
Kamping_Kaiserthat time novell loaded03:20
Kamping_Kaiseroh03:20
Kamping_Kaiserthat might not be using my profile though. *checks*03:20
Kamping_Kaisermy profile crashes it with "The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error.", a clean .mozilla is happy03:22
=== Kamping_Kaiser wonders... flash... *maybe*....
poningruhmm03:23
poningruwell yeah that is most likely it03:23
poningruflash is the culprit for almost all ff crashes on linux03:24
Kamping_Kaiserwonder how its on in the first place :( i hate the stuff with a pasion03:24
poningruhehe yeah me too03:24
Kamping_Kaisermoving prefs.js aside is irrevent. wonder if i should bother trying to debug this03:24
poningrunaah remove flash03:25
Kamping_Kaiseri dont think its installed :(03:25
poningruoh03:25
Kamping_Kaiserdpkg --get-selections |grep flash comes clean - anything else i can search for? :|03:25
poningruhold on03:26
Kamping_Kaisernp03:27
poningru/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins03:27
poningruwhats in there?03:27
Kamping_Kaiser12 lines - pastebin?03:27
poningrusure03:27
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Kamping_Kaiserhttp://pastebin.ca/18400003:28
Kamping_Kaisernice round number :)03:28
poningruooh nice03:29
Kamping_Kaiser:)03:29
poningrupastebin.mozilla.org ftw03:29
Kamping_Kaiserhehe.03:29
Kamping_Kaiseri can remember the .ca one :)03:30
poningruKamping_Kaiser: hmm yeah no flash03:30
poningrucheck the profiles plugins folder03:30
poningru.mozilla/firefox/9qwe2p9h.default/plugins03:30
Kamping_Kaiserextentions, or plugins? i have an extentions, no plugins03:31
poningruhmm03:31
Kamping_Kaiserah. .mozila/plugins03:31
Kamping_Kaiserls ~/.mozilla/plugins/03:31
Kamping_Kaisertotal 2.1M03:31
Kamping_Kaiser-rwx-----x 1 kgoetz kgoetz  856 2004-05-20 14:34 flashplayer.xpt03:31
Kamping_Kaiser-rwx-----x 1 kgoetz kgoetz 2.0M 2004-05-20 14:34 libflashplayer.so03:31
Kamping_Kaiser:(03:31
poningruah there it is03:31
Kamping_Kaiserevil evil!03:32
poningrudelete away my friend03:32
poningruweird03:32
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poningruhmm that placement of the plugins folder is weird03:32
Kamping_KaiserHA! HA! HA! that worked!03:33
poningrualways flash03:33
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Kamping_Kaiserto think, i was so sure i had eradicated it from my comp :|03:34
poningrufind / -name 'flash'03:34
poningruif I am doing that correctly03:34
Kamping_Kaiserclose enough :)03:34
Kamping_Kaiser find / -name *flash* 2>/dev/null |wc -l :)03:35
poningrumeh warning signs are meh03:36
poningruthrow in a sudo for the warning signs... though not sure how sensible it is to run find under super user03:36
Kamping_Kaiserlocate would be anotehr option03:37
Kamping_Kaiserlooks fairly flash free :) yay.03:38
Kamping_Kaiserthanks mate :)03:38
poningrunp03:43
elkbuntuponingru, how you going on the beta page?03:48
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poningruI was just doing spell check03:49
poningrusorry03:50
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WarboHi, anyone around?05:58
elkbuntumaybe :)06:00
Warbocool, a reply06:01
WarboI was just wondering if anyone had looked on the Ideas wiki page recently...06:01
elkbuntuuwn ideas?06:01
Warbowiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Ideas I think, I added one06:02
Warboand joined the mailing list, but I've never been on one before...06:02
elkbuntuah, right06:02
elkbuntuwell.. it's quiet time all round atm06:03
Warboseems that way06:03
Warbo #ubuntu only has 900+ people in it :)06:03
elkbuntui did see your mail, but i hadnt gotten around to replying06:03
elkbuntuheh 850+ of which are idle :)06:04
Warboah. I have been checking archives and stuff and it isn't in there, so I was wondering if I had the right way of doing it06:04
elkbuntuyeah. grassroots advocacy and viral marketing are areas where we should be focussing06:05
elkbuntuim not sure how much you knwo about what we've done, but i'll use ubuntucounter.org (my idea) and ubuntuvideo.com (johnlittle's idea) are some of the really cool things we've managed lately06:06
WarboI just thought it was something that could be done right away, rather than the many high cost ideas I've seen floating around, but I can't really do it myself unless the few bits of infrastructure are in place06:06
WarboI have a video on ubuntuvideo.com :)06:06
elkbuntuso do i :)06:06
WarboI was going to make more, but my microphone port is screwed up06:07
elkbuntubugger06:07
WarboI might disconnect the front panel ports next time I need to reboot06:08
elkbuntuanyway, grass roots and viral stuff is the a really good way to get the word out these days06:08
WarboI got even more enthusiasm today after attending my first "Basic Java and Problem Solving" computer lab session, since all it involved was making sure Java was installed and getting jEdit, but the PDF instruction file crashed Windows three times06:09
elkbunturofl06:09
Warboand I have never used a CLI in XP before, and kept typing "ls"06:09
Warbobut that is a matter of preference :)06:10
elkbuntuhehe06:10
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jendaI like Warbo's idea. I think it's been around before. The thing is one is never sure how it will work.06:40
jendaI guess it's _possible_ to try with a few CDs first.06:40
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jendabbl06:44
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