[12:01] <PWill|hw> Bladesonfire: have you tried WPA2 with a different router?
[12:01] <spdf> ACETACE, Google is probably where its at
[12:01] <PWill|hw> if it works, buy another one, and see if your boss/management will refund you
[12:01] <Bladesonfire> Not WPA2, since WPA seems to work everywhere else
[12:02] <Bladesonfire> Meaning... with any other router I've tried
[12:02] <Beawolfe> Lampshade ....if your still her can you possible tell me how to get par2 and unrar to work in the GUI?
[12:02] <ACETACE> okay spdf thanx i'll look into dependency related problems then ;) thanx for the help
[12:02] <ladydoor> Dr_willis: so when you said it's stored in memory, i suppose by that you mean it's *not* stored on the harddisk anywhere?
[12:03] <spdf> ACETACE, I think all you need is binutils, gdb, and gcc.
[12:04] <JosefK_> anyone know a repository with python 2.5 packages for Dapper?
[12:05] <ladydoor> JosefK_: no, but you can install from source
[12:05] <lampshade> Beawolfe: I'm not quite sure what you mean.  If they are installed you can just open a terminal and use them like you normally would.  Or you can right click on a file and choose extract most of the time and it will be fine anyway.  To open a terminal, goto Applications >> Accessories >> Terminal
[12:05] <robbbb> hello
[12:05] <robbbb> how do i change the color of the text in gnome-panel?
[12:07] <Beawolfe> Lampshade....so it isnt just point and click the file like you would do in WinXP?
[12:07] <ladydoor> Beawolfe: it's not particularly difficult to type "unrar e filename.rar"
[12:07] <lampshade> Beawolfe: umm yeah it is really.  I mean for unzipping stuff 99.9% of the time I Point, right click, click extract here.  Or I can choose open and launch the program
[12:08] <lampshade> Beawolfe: I use the terminal with it only rarely now days.  The reason I mentioned how via terminal was because you asked how
[12:10] <JosefK_> ladydoor: meh, checkinstalling it, I'll stick the package somewhere public
[12:10] <Dr_willis> ladydoor,  not that i know of.
[12:10] <ladydoor> JosefK_: cool. you might want to divert ubuntu's python just to be safe
[12:10] <D-side> hrm. what is it that controls automounting? is it autofs?
[12:10] <ladydoor> Dr_willis: thanks anyway
[12:10] <Beawolfe> Lampshade ...sorry if I confussed you.........I asked how I could get it to work in the GIU or was it strictly terminal...I am a dual boot system that I an trying to get away from Bill GATES control
[12:11] <ruzgar> how can i save my programs package list
[12:12] <Dr_willis> ruzgar,  you mean a list of what all packages are installed?
[12:12] <ruzgar> yes
[12:13] <Dr_willis> thers some apt command that can show the list.. i just cant rember what it is.
[12:13] <Dr_willis> !apt-get
[12:13] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[12:13] <steve> Hi, I was just wondering which file I should edit to change my screen resolution, the proper resolution size is not listed in the app of the system menu.
[12:13] <Dr_willis> !rixres
[12:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rixres - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <Dr_willis> !fixres
[12:13] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:13] <D-side> what, something like dpkg -l > pkglist ?
[12:13] <ruzgar> steve that is xorg
[12:14] <ruzgar> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:14] <Beawolfe> Thanx All.......will try and see if I can get this to work now
[12:14] <steve> ruzgar I edited xorg.conf and for modes I have only listed 1280x1024 but I can't get that res to actually work, I'm using Edgy btw
[12:15] <whadar> hello, ive installed java5 (with synaptic) and want to use it. but executing "java <*.jar>" uses jre 1.4.2. how can i change to the newer version?
[12:15] <lampshade> Beawolfe: no, there are gui ones.  honestly, if you want to, you can do pretty well almost everything in Ubuntu now without a console.  Seriously.  I use my console for writing code and that's it anymore
[12:15] <ruzgar> umm i dont know
[12:15] <ruzgar> i think you should use http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:15] <lampshade> whadar: you need to reset the default java thingy, lemme look real quick
[12:15] <whadar> lampshade: thanks
[12:15] <lampshade> whadar: update-alternatives
[12:16] <lampshade> run that and then choose the new sun 1.5 engine as the default one
[12:16] <georgy> whadar : sudo update-alternative --config java and make your choice
[12:16] <lampshade> there you go yeah
[12:16] <steve> ruzgar thanks I'm checking that out now
[12:16] <ruzgar> not important
[12:16] <DigitalNinja> Does anyone know if swap has to be on a RAID partition when booting on RAID 1?
[12:17] <UKMatt> Hey, I need to install a C compiler, which should I use?
[12:17] <DigitalNinja> UKMatt: gcc
[12:18] <UKMatt> digitalninja, gcc, or g++?  whats the difference
[12:18] <lampshade> UKMatt: g++   install build-essential in synaptic or sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:18] <DigitalNinja> UKMatt: One is for C and the other is for C++
[12:18] <UKMatt> digitalninja, oh well it can use c++, so i'll go w/ that
[12:19] <lampshade> Both will get installed when you install build-essential along with some other tools like make
[12:19] <DigitalNinja> UKMatt: There is a package that gives you all the devel stuff. Can't think of it
[12:19] <UKMatt> lampshade, ty
[12:19] <DigitalNinja> UKMatt: do what lampshade says
[12:19] <DigitalNinja> UKMatt: If you install gcc or g++ you will be missing a few things
[12:20] <stodge> I can't believe how dificult the printer setup process is for remote printers...
[12:20] <D-side> I don't mean to parrot, but if anyone answered me I missed it. I'm looking for what does automounting in dapper. specifical usb drives
[12:20] <okiaro> how do i find out which /dev/sd* or /dev/hd* actually have hds on them ?
[12:20] <DigitalNinja> stodge: That has sucked for years
[12:20] <UKMatt> anyone know anything about "configure: error: *** SDL version 1.1.5 not found!" error?
[12:20] <D-side> okiaro: dmesg, for one.
[12:20] <florg> hi, i've created a ext3 partition to move my /home directory there. Now i try to mount the partition in fstab, but can't get user permissions. Any ideas?
[12:20] <okiaro> D-side,  even if they aren't mounted?
[12:21] <D-side> steve: really depends on what printer and how you're accessing it remotely.
[12:21] <DigitalNinja> stodge: The CUPS people need to fix that.
[12:21] <D-side> okiaro: the kernel doesn't care if its mounted.
[12:21] <D-side> it only knows what devices are available.
[12:21] <whadar> update-alternative: command not found
[12:21] <Beawolfe> Lampshade ...I just tried to unrar a file and it said the file was not supported?????????????? now what?
[12:21] <okiaro> great, thanks D-side , i'll look into tat
[12:21] <whadar> anyway i found galternative thing which seems to be a real gem!
[12:21] <georgy> wadhar : update-alternatives
[12:21] <LjL> Beawolfe: do you have unrar installed?
[12:22] <Beawolfe> free unrar yes
[12:22] <{blecheimer}> wo gibts ne original sources.list fr dapper?
[12:22] <lampshade> Beawolfe: hmmm not quite sure, that's odd.  I would try to install the nonfree version of unrar and then try again.
[12:22] <LjL> Beawolfe: perhaps you need nonfree for that specific archive.
[12:22] <lampshade> Beawolfe: the nonfree one will be just called "unrar"  it should install super quick
[12:22] <{blecheimer}> ups. where can i find a original sources.list for dapper?
[12:23] <vorbote> {blecheimer}: /usr/share/ubuntu-docs/ubuntu/serverguide/sample/sources.list
[12:24] <whadar> great! the alternative thing did the magic and galternative seems to be very useful! the only problem is that is nowhere in the menu...
[12:24] <ompaul> !de
[12:24] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:24] <ompaul> !easysource
[12:24] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:25] <georgy> whadar : remember it :)
[12:25] <{blecheimer}> vorbote, thanks
[12:25] <Beawolfe> okay the nonfree version did work........now all I have to do is get the par2 files to do the same thing!
[12:26] <SurfnKid> could someone tell me how to reset all mozilla firefox settings
[12:26] <yoshiznit123> surfnkid, does that include bookmarks, history, etc?
[12:26] <whadar> alternatives is very important IMO... is it global configuration or local for the user?
[12:27] <robbbb> anyone have the mplayer firefox plugin crash the whole of xorg?
[12:27] <D-side> never.
[12:27] <D-side> its really not supposed to work like that. thats pretty bad.
[12:27] <D-side> what kind of video card do you have in there?
[12:27] <lampshade> haha, I"ve had it crash before but not all of xorg.  Crap I mean it doesn't even crash when I use it with Xorg and xgl
[12:28] <robbbb> ati x700
[12:28] <D-side> are you using the crap binary ati driver?
[12:28] <georgy> whadar : global
[12:28] <D-side> even money says yes. :D
[12:28] <robbbb> good question
[12:28] <robbbb> i think so yeah
[12:28] <D-side> i'd try it again with the simple xorg included 2d driver.
[12:28] <D-side> ati drivers (for me) have sucked always.
[12:28] <D-side> i know thats probably not what you want to hear.
[12:29] <robbbb> it's pretty shitty one bad program can crash the whole of xorg though
[12:29] <KDan> if installing on a server, do i want the server iso or the alternate iso?
[12:29] <D-side> its not the program's fault.
[12:29] <D-side> well, thats the working theory anyway.
[12:29] <CrippsFX> I have a broadcom airport one card (bcm4318) running on Dapper amd64, the process of getting the card up (after "ifconfig eth1 up") is located here: http://pastebin.ca/183429  ... I was wondering if someone could help me out in trying to figure out why I'm not getting a dhcp lease.
[12:29] <D-side> blame ati and their incompetent code monkeys
[12:30] <D-side> rsync never fails to amuse me.
[12:30] <robbbb> can monodevelop handle vb.net?
[12:30] <D-side> i'm copying 16G to a usb disk.
[12:30] <EriK> anybody in here use Xephyr and ever have it become convinced the caps lock key is permanently on?
[12:30] <CrippsFX> D-side, what problems have you had with the fglrx driver?
[12:31] <KDan> if installing Ubuntu on a server, do i want the server iso or the alternate iso?
[12:31] <D-side> CrippsFX: tons of just awful crap. lockups, crashes, incompatibilities with xv (which was necessary at the time).. tons
[12:31] <D-side> robbbb: should be C# only.
[12:31] <D-side> that i'm aware of anyway
[12:31] <robbbb> bugger
[12:31] <robbbb> any vb -> c# converters?
[12:31] <shut-> has any one found a driver for canon pixma ip1600
[12:31] <shut-> ????
[12:31] <D-side> shut-: what does google say?
[12:31] <CrippsFX> D-side, ah yeah, I've had lockups and crashes on amd64 ....
[12:31] <livre> OI
[12:32] <wasabi_> Don't suppose anybody has experience with aacraid PERC controllers in ubuntu?
[12:32] <D-side> CrippsFX: oh lets not even talk about amd64.
[12:32] <CrippsFX> D-side, I know ;)
[12:32] <D-side> wasabi_: i avoid them like the plague. :)
[12:32] <livre> OLA
[12:32] <wasabi_> Well. That doesnt' help me.
[12:32] <CrippsFX> D-side, amd64 is getting better .... but it's still in the "development only" stage, IMHO
[12:33] <livre> OI
[12:33] <robbbb> wasabi_, yeah i have had one working
[12:33] <wasabi_> The driver works fine. Just can't find a management utility.
[12:33] <robbbb> there was something strange about it though
[12:33] <wasabi_> To rebuild stuff, etc.
[12:33] <TheH> Hi, I'm having trouble getting back to the torrent I was downloading after reboot with bittornado, it doesn't show
[12:33] <shut-> No
[12:33] <TheH> any suggestions?
[12:33] <DigitalNinja> How do I configure frame buffer? I can't see the bottem of the console
[12:34] <steve> do you guys know where I can get csm or gset-compiz?
[12:34] <livre> OLA
[12:34] <livre> KLJDSJDJ
[12:34] <livre> LSKMDLSKLK
[12:34] <erUSUL> !pt
[12:34] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[12:34] <szb04> hi guys
[12:34] <shut-> see i want to swich to ubuntu but i dont want to untill i get a driver
[12:35] <spdf> steve, google. beerorkid has reps for them though
[12:35] <MadRabbit> Is there a downloadable ubuntu or kubuntu *DVD* image? so all the packages/apt's would be on one disc I could send to someone?
[12:35] <slavik> shut-: driver for what?
[12:35] <szb04> im a newbie and need a gui interface for a mail server
[12:35] <shut-> printer
[12:35] <szb04> any recommendations
[12:35] <steve> spdf, I've tried the beeorkid he doesn't seem to have it, I'll look again though
[12:36] <xMorphix> I need some help with an interesting issue
[12:36] <slavik> shut-: what kind of printer?
[12:36] <vorbote> MadRabbit: yes, there are DVDs that contain all the main repository, plus a live CD image. Check http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/
[12:36] <xMorphix> from my network file, it seems I am connected to an ftp
[12:36] <slavik> !ask
[12:36] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:36] <xMorphix> drluv.no-ip.org to be exact
[12:36] <shut-> canon pixma ip1600
[12:36] <TheH> any suggestions? bittornado , can't find torent I was working with before reboot
[12:36] <xMorphix> and it won't let me delete it
[12:36] <xMorphix> or trash it
[12:36] <georgy> steve : deb http://compiz-mirror.lupine.me.uk/ dapper main
[12:37] <slavik> hmm, Canon didn't write a linux driver yet?
[12:37] <szb04> anyone?
[12:37] <MadRabbit> vorbote: thnx!
[12:37] <shut-> dunoo
[12:37] <shut-> dunno
[12:37] <TheH> Hi, I'm having trouble getting back to the torrent I was downloading after reboot with bittornado, it doesn't show any help?
[12:37] <D-side> szb04: don't take this the wrong way, but if you're that new to it, i'd much prefer you didn't run a mail server open to the 'net.
[12:38] <D-side> i don't know of any as it is, so i couldn't be helpful if i wanted to.
[12:38] <szb04> D-side it wont be
[12:39] <mick> can anyone think of a good reason why xev wouldn't recognize some mouse buttons as buttons
[12:39] <xMorphix> omg haxors help!
[12:40] <axeeOo> hi, im getting lagged sound in the game warsow. It uses the openal sound library. I have updated/changed my openal version but i still have about a .5ms lag of sound throughout my entire gaming session. Any ideas on perhaps why?
[12:40] <xMorphix> lol
[12:40] <szb04> !dovecot
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dovecot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <szb04> !pop3
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pop3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <shut-> is turboprint anygood
[12:42] <steve> georgy, its finding either of the compiz config managers
[12:44] <shut-> is turboprint good to use
[12:44] <xMorphix> [[[[[  Could not open location 'ftp://anonymous@drluv.no-ip.org:2345.' Deatils Unknown: Unknown Error Code 30
[12:45] <nanno> shut-, its best to use normal cups.... while turboprint can be decent, normal cups is better.... i used tp for awhile but then decided it's just better to get a better printer (one compatible with cups)
[12:45] <nanno> cups = what most linux distros (ubuntu as well) use as their default printing server
[12:46] <nanno> shut-, you can always install it and try it out... it has an unlimited (time wise) trial, but you can only print with the lowest settings
[12:47] <Ruffles> is it already possible dist-upgrade dapper into edgy ?
[12:47] <zoredache> probably, I doubt it is completely stable
[12:48] <stodge> Can anyone recommend a good Gnome image viewer that can show thumbnails on a Samba drive?
[12:48] <cpk2> its only about a month away from release
[12:48] <Ruffles> can't wait though! :D
[12:48] <Ruffles> i'm ubuntu maniac
[12:48] <Ruffles> lol
[12:48] <Ruffles> actually i wanna try gnome 2.16 out
[12:48] <shut-> is there a way to get full?
[12:49] <JosefK> stodge: if you use smbmount (desktop machine?), then anything can
[12:49] <JosefK> !smbfs
[12:49] <ubotu> smbfs: mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x). In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 369 kB, installed size 888 kB
[12:49] <stodge> Hmm good point. I just dont want to mount all the samba drives
[12:49] <stodge> Too many
[12:50] <steve> I just installed edgy today, it definately boots faster than dapper
[12:50] <JosefK> stodge: I'd have assumed anything using GNOME's VFS should be able to handle it, so I'm surprised if fspot (mono, GNOME integrated) can't
[12:50] <sdubois92> I need some help. I am having trouble playing any type of sound or audio in ubuntu and I dont think ubuntu has recognized my sound card.
[12:51] <georgy> sdubois92 : wich soundcard ?
[12:51] <stodge> Oh sorry - I forgot to enable thumbnails for remote drives :P
[12:51] <sdubois92> Im not sure, I bought an IBM PC on ebay
[12:52] <steve> good work stodge
[12:52] <stodge> :)
[12:52] <tlockney> anyone had trouble installing ubuntu server on an opteron box before?
[12:52] <HOT> hmmm, so what would be the upgrade path from dapper to edgy?
[12:52] <stodge> Tired tonight - having a blonde moment! lol
[12:52] <sdubois92> I plugged in my speakers and no sound
[12:52] <JosefK> HOT: by release, doing a dist-upgrade will be stable - it isn't guaraunteed beforehand though
[12:52] <georgy> sdubois92 : type lspci | grep audio in a console
[12:53] <HOT> JosefK: if things went bad, is it easy to "roll back" ?
[12:53] <sdubois92> lspci  |  grep audio
[12:53] <sdubois92> just like that?
[12:53] <JosefK> HOT: no ;) keep a tarball of your system handy
[12:53] <georgy> sdubios92: yes
[12:53] <sdubois92> should it work now?
[12:54] <HOT> JosefK: one thing i have always struggled with is what you actually have to tar to be able to restore, would it be safer to use something like ghost?
[12:54] <georgy> sdubois92 : do you have a output ?
[12:54] <JosefK> HOT: yeah, so long as you're using ext2/3 ghost can handle it (make sure you backup the boot-sector too to catch GRUB)
[12:55] <ku> !peerguardian
[12:55] <HOT> JosefK: good info, thanks
[12:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about peerguardian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:55] <sdubois92> im not hearing any sound
[12:55] <sdubois92> the back of my Pc has three audio jack, output, input and mic
[12:55] <shut-> !printer
[12:55] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:56] <georgy> sdubois92 : after doing lspci | grep audio, what output do you have in the console
[12:56] <sdubois92> i copied and pasted that in
[12:56] <sdubois92> it did nothing
[12:56] <sdubois92> said nothing
[12:57] <ivx> does anyone use a webcam with ubuntu and how are you supposed to use it? if it is compatible with it will an icon just pop up on the desktop?
[12:58] <georgy> sdubois: you mean you don't have anything ?
[12:58] <grothesk> I need to rmmod a certain module in order to be able to s2d my notebook. In which script should I include a 'rmmod rt2500'?
[12:58] <sdubois92> this is what it says
[12:58] <TheReconHunter> Can someone help me? I seriously messed up my GRUB
[12:58] <sdubois92> steven@IBM:~$ lspci | grep audio
[12:58] <sdubois92> steven@IBM:
[12:58] <TheH> Hi, I'm having trouble getting back to the torrent I was downloading after reboot with bittornado, it doesn't show any help?
[12:58] <sdubois92> just like that
[12:58] <TheReconHunter> I just reinstalled windows xp, and had to restore GRUB
[12:58] <TheReconHunter> but now
[12:59] <TheReconHunter> when i try and login, when i pick ubuntu as my OS, it says Error 17: could not mount partition
[12:59] <georgy> sdubois92 : bad, it will not recognize your soundcard yet
[12:59] <JosefK> grothesk: you put 'blacklist *module name*' into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[12:59] <sdubois92> what should I do?
[12:59] <TheH> how can I get back to a torrent I was working on with bottornado?
[12:59] <sdubois92> Get a new card?
[12:59] <georgy> sdubois92, : what laptop do you have ?
[12:59] <ladydoor> !repeat
[12:59] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:59] <SpacePope> hello
[01:00] <sdubois92> im not using a laptop
[01:00] <sdubois92> IBM PC 300PL
[01:00] <OffHand> can anyone help me with excluding a file from asking for a password?
[01:00] <georgy> sdubois92, : what computer do you have ?
[01:00] <sdubois92> IBM Personal Computer 300PL
[01:00] <georgy> sdubois92, : wait a moment
[01:00] <sdubois92> Okay, thanks
[01:00] <erik_> TheH, I havent used it in awhile but if you add the torrent and point it at the old location and it should continue the download, of course I could be wrong so make a copy of what you have already downloaded so far.
[01:01] <TheReconHunter> I just reinstalled windows xp, and had to restore GRUB, but now, when i try selecting Ubuntu as my operating system, all I see is error 17:Could not Mount Partition.
[01:01] <JosefK> OffHand: you can do some trickery in your /etc/sudoers file - but what's the problem?
[01:01] <grothesk> JosefK: But then it won't get up, when I start the notebook?
[01:01] <JosefK> grothesk: indeed, it's blacklisted
[01:01] <SpacePope> I just left Ubuntu installing before I went to schoo, it's done now, and I don't know how to get my Netgear WGT111T adapter to work
[01:01] <grothesk> But I need that module for my WLANconnection, JosefK
[01:01] <SpacePope> I noticed there's a topic on that in the forum, but I know nothing about Linux
[01:02] <TheH> well I opened the torrent yesterday when I downloaded the torrent file it set it to open with bittornado, so I don't know where that little file is
[01:02] <OffHand> JosefK, I need to exclude /urs/sbin/hddtemp from using sudo
[01:02] <TheReconHunter> I just reinstalled windows xp, and had to restore GRUB, but now, when i try selecting Ubuntu as my operating system, all I see is error 17:Could not Mount Partition.
[01:02] <JosefK> grothesk: oh... sorry, when you said 'rmmod', I think you wanted it permanently removed
[01:02] <OffHand> JosefK, and this didn't work: admin ALL=NOPASSWD: /urs/sbin/hddtemp
[01:02] <sdubois92> you have to mount it
[01:02] <TheReconHunter> Any idea what to do?
[01:02] <TheH> now when I re open the software, bittornado it doesn;t open that torrent I was working on
[01:02] <TheReconHunter> @ sdubois92- its a primary partition, how do i mount it?
[01:03] <grothesk> JosefK: No, just before going into suspend that module hast to be unloaded.
[01:03] <TheH> it ask me for a torrent file, Only thin I have the folder where is saving what I'm downloading.. I dont knowif it makes sense
[01:03] <sdubois92> dunno, ask on the boards
[01:03] <JosefK> grothesk: I'm sorry, I don't know where to look for that :/
[01:03] <TheReconHunter> Anyone else have an idea?
[01:04] <SpacePope> did anybody see my question?
[01:04] <erik_> I think the easiest way would be to find the .torrent again and then install a client with more features to help in the future
[01:04] <georgy> sdubois92, : try sudo modprobe snd-cs4232  in a console
[01:05] <SpacePope>  I just left Ubuntu installing before I went to school, it's done now, and I don't know how to get my Netgear WGT111T adapter to work
[01:05] <JosefK> OffHand: tried "your-username ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/hddtemp"
[01:05] <sdubois92> steven@IBM:~$ sudo modprobe snd-cs4232
[01:05] <sdubois92> Password:
[01:05] <sdubois92> FATAL: Error inserting snd_cs4232 (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/sound/isa/cs423x/snd-cs4232.ko): No such device
[01:05] <sdubois92> steven@IBM:~$
[01:05] <sdubois92> thats what i get
[01:06] <JosefK> OffHand: replacing 'your-username' with the obvious :)
[01:06] <georgy> squbois : ok, will search
[01:06] <sdubois92> ok
[01:06] <decherdtt> TheReconHunter:  googling hints that XP could have changed the partition ID...fidsk -l?
[01:06] <OffHand> JosefK, that's whats in it: admin ALL=NOPASSWD: /urs/sbin/hddtemp
[01:06] <JosefK> oh, odd username :P in that case it looks fine
[01:06] <OffHand> do i have to reboot?
[01:07] <JosefK> OffHand: although /urs is mis-spelt, it should be /usr
[01:07] <whatsreal> SpacePope: go ahead
[01:07] <SpacePope> I just left Ubuntu installing before I went to school, it's done now, and I don't know how to get my Netgear WGT111T adapter to work
[01:07] <OffHand> no shit lol
[01:07] <OffHand> must be it
[01:07] <SpacePope> and this is my first time using any sort of Linux
[01:07] <TheReconHunter> what does sudo mount -a do?
[01:07] <JosefK> OffHand: I assumed it was a typo in IRC, not the file ;)
[01:07] <Celeste> hi
[01:08] <Celeste> how can I find out the IP that my computer is located at in the network please?
[01:08] <whatsreal> SpacePope: gimme a sec and let me find the right page
[01:08] <JosefK> Celeste: ifconfig
[01:08] <JosefK> Celeste: the Network Tools program also shows your IP
[01:08] <whatsreal> SpacePope: can you do iwconfig and get a cogent readout?
[01:08] <whatsreal> in a terminal
[01:09] <SpacePope> in windowsuser speak please
[01:09] <SpacePope> :S
[01:09] <Celeste> JosefK, I tried out ifconfig but did not show me my eth0 ip
[01:09] <Celeste> oh dear noo
[01:09] <JosefK> Celeste: it should do, unless the interface isn't up? :/
[01:09] <Celeste> it should be at eth1
[01:09] <georgy> sdubois92, : try sudo modprobe snd-cs4236  in a console
[01:09] <Celeste> JosefK, how to switch the interface up?
[01:09] <JosefK> Celeste: ah :P just doing 'ifconfig' without an interface will list all 'up' interfaces
[01:09] <OffHand> hmm still no luck
[01:09] <JosefK> Celeste: sudo ifup *interface*
[01:10] <whatsreal> SpacePope: open a terminal, it should be in the applications >> accessories menu
[01:10] <whatsreal> and type iwconfig
[01:10] <sdubois92> steven@IBM:~$ modprobe snd-cs4236
[01:10] <sdubois92> WARNING: Error inserting snd_cs4236_lib (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/sound/isa/cs423x/snd-cs4236-lib.ko): Operation not permitted
[01:10] <sdubois92> FATAL: Error inserting snd_cs4236 (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/sound/isa/cs423x/snd-cs4236.ko): Operation not permitted
[01:10] <SpacePope> ok ,1 sec
[01:10] <TheReconHunter> I just reinstalled windows xp, and had to restore GRUB, but now, when i try selecting Ubuntu as my operating system, all I see is error 17:Could not Mount Partition.
[01:10] <Celeste> JosefK,  Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1.
[01:10] <WhiteDeth> anyone here installed xmms infopipe before?
[01:10] <georgy> sdubois92, : sudo modprobe
[01:11] <JosefK> Celeste: no entry for it in /etc/network/interfaces - if you're on ubuntu, try installing the "network-manager-gnome" package and logout/login
[01:11] <mrcuteo> anyone knows a better curse mail client other than pine and mutt for ubuntu ?
[01:11] <Scorched> i'm running Ubuntu Dapper, and have completely confused my apache2 and php5 install, is there an easy way to reinstall apache2 to get a clean slate so I can start over instead of trying to fix the mess I made?
[01:11] <sdubois92> steven@IBM:~$ sudo modprobe
[01:11] <sdubois92> Password:
[01:11] <sdubois92> Usage: modprobe [-v]  [-V]  [-C config-file]  [-n]  [-i]  [-q]  [-Q]  [-b]  [-o <modname>]  <modname> [parameters...] 
[01:11] <sdubois92> modprobe -r [-n]  [-i]  [-v]  <modulename> ...
[01:11] <sdubois92> modprobe -l -t <dirname> [ -a <modulename> ...] 
[01:11] <SilentDissonance> hello :)
[01:11] <TheReconHunter> I just reinstalled windows xp, and had to restore GRUB, but now, when i try selecting Ubuntu as my operating system, all I see is error 17:Could not Mount Partition.
[01:11] <SpacePope> ok, i typed iwconfig
[01:11] <LjL> !tell sdubois92 about pastebin
[01:11] <mrcuteo> Scorched: sudo apt-get remove apache2
[01:11] <LjL> sdubois92: modprobe should be followed by the name of the module you want to load
[01:12] <JosefK> Celeste: you'll get an icon in the system tray when you log back in, left-click it to configure network interfaces
[01:12] <georgy> sdubois92,  : sudo modprobe snd-cs4236
[01:12] <Scorched> mrcuteo, I tried that, and it left everything in place and apache was still running
[01:12] <whatsreal> SpacePope: were there any interfaces available?
[01:12] <Celeste> thank  you JosefK
[01:12] <SilentDissonance> quick question:  ubuntu appears to be installed and working fine.  i have a SB Live! card.  it appears to be detected and functional, is there a way to set it to use digital output, or shall I just climb behind my desk and hook up the other leads?
[01:12] <SpacePope> it had 3 things, and they all said no wireless extensions next to them
[01:12] <sdubois92> nothing
[01:12] <sdubois92> sudo modprobe snd-cs4236
[01:12] <sdubois92> then nothing
[01:13] <sdubois92> steven@IBM:~$ sudo modprobe snd-cs4236
[01:13] <sdubois92> steven@IBM:~$
[01:13] <georgy> sdubois92 : that's ok, now open a soundmixer
[01:13] <LjL> sdubois92: that means it has succesfully loaded the module
[01:13] <mrcuteo> Scorched: do you install apache2 from .deb packages? or manual compilations?
[01:13] <sdubois92> whats a soundmixer
[01:14] <sdubois92> sorry, im kinda novice when it comes to linux
[01:14] <DethKlok> Do you need X installed inorder to use the line vga=791 on the grub menu?
[01:14] <DethKlok> if that makes any sense to anyone
[01:14] <mrcuteo> anyone knows a better curse mail client other than pine and mutt for ubuntu ?
[01:14] <erik_> SikentDissonance there should be a switch in the volume control menu
[01:14] <Ignite__> DethKlok, no you don't
[01:15] <georgy> sduboi, 92, : that's ok, i mean a mixer like kmix or somethi,g similar
[01:15] <sdubois92> how can i get a mixer?
[01:15] <sdubois92> synaptic?
[01:15] <georgy> sdubois : in your menu, under sound and video ?
[01:15] <DethKlok> Ignite__: would 791 be good for a 20inch wide screen (1680x1050)?
[01:15] <LjL> sdubois92: you should have one installed by default.
[01:16] <SilentDissonance> erik_:  thanks, do you mean in the device manager, or am I looking in the wrong place?
[01:16] <Ignite__> i'm not sure, you should look it up :)
[01:16] <Ignite__> @ DethKlok
[01:16] <georgy> LjL : thanks for help :)
[01:16] <DethKlok> Ignite__: What would i search for?
[01:16] <meal3837> !backgrounds
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about backgrounds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <sdubois92> movie player, rythombox,  serpintine, sound juicer, and sound recorder
[01:16] <jmitchj> is there a command to force eject a DVD?
[01:16] <sdubois92> thats all i have
[01:17] <JosefK> jmitchj: sudo eject
[01:17] <meal3837> anyone know where the default background images are stored?
[01:17] <Ignite__> DethKlok, do you really need me to answer that? :P
[01:17] <SpacePope> whatsreal are you still with me?
[01:17] <DethKlok> Ignite__: well google but i mean what do i search for lol
[01:18] <jmitchj> comes back device busy
[01:18] <JosefK> jmitchj: rogue processes ;) is it your only drive?
[01:18] <DethKlok> Ignite__: see i know if i add vga=791 console text doesnt look huge
[01:18] <jmitchj> yes
[01:18] <JosefK> jmitchj: find /media/cdrom -exec fuser {} \;
[01:18] <DethKlok> Ignite__: Frame buffer?
[01:18] <erik_> SilentDissonance: when I enabled the digital out it was in the volume control, double click the speaker in the upper right and it may be in the preferences
[01:19] <meal3837> !Background
[01:19] <JosefK> jmitchj: you'll get a bunch of process ID's you'll need to manually 'kill' before you can unmount/eject the drive
[01:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Background - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:19] <jmitchj> it just finally ejected
[01:19] <Jeeves_Moss> all:  can any one help me with a X Server problem?
[01:19] <georgy> sdubois92, : type gnome-volume-control in a console
[01:19] <LjL> !anyone
[01:19] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:19] <JosefK> jmitchj: nvm then :) but that would work if it happens again
[01:19] <sdubois92> got it
[01:19] <SilentDissonance> erik_:  *sigh* thank you for making me feel like a total noob.  LOL
[01:19] <jmitchj> any reason why a certain DVD would not work and others would?
[01:20] <georgy> sdubois92 : and ?
[01:20] <sdubois92> it opend up a Volume control window
[01:20] <JosefK> jmitchj: if it's the ejecting, it probably had nothing to do with the DVD and more the programs you were running
[01:20] <MadRabbit> what do I need to make my own cursor? I made my own for windows (I have vision problems).  or can I somehow convert my *.cur* to whatever it needs to be in linux?
[01:20] <georgy> sdubois92,  : sound ?
[01:20] <NaMcO^> how to check ip of dynamic dns (ip take in automatic by isp) ???
[01:20] <erik_> SilentDissonance: dont worry about it, did you find it?
[01:20] <sdubois92> do i need to change anything in the volume control?
[01:21] <SilentDissonance> erik_: yes, thank you very much! :D
[01:21] <jmitchj> i have a AMD64...so i found out the packages to load to get DVD's playing...i tried LOR and everything was fine then i tried Narnia and no go
[01:21] <erik_> SilentDissonance: no problem
[01:21] <georgy> sdubois92 : pump up the volume, and others
[01:21] <sdubois92> ok
[01:22] <SilentDissonance> one final question:  MP3 support?  am I missing an app or something?  I get a "you do not have a decoder installed to handle this file" error.
[01:22] <meal3837> where can I find the PNG files for the background pictures?
[01:22] <SpacePope> whatsreal: can you give me some indication that you're alive so that i know whether i'm talking to the wall or not?
[01:22] <WhiteDeth> anyone installed xmms infopipe before?
[01:23] <sdubois92> nothing
[01:23] <tannerld> no walls here (or windows for that fact) :P
[01:23] <jmitchj> ther's gotta be a reason...any ideas?
[01:23] <sdubois92> no sound still
[01:23] <SilentDissonance> tannerld: i'd call x a windows manager.. ;)
[01:23] <mjr> !restrictedformats > SilentDissonance
[01:23] <Kyral> X isn't a window manager
[01:23] <tannerld> Oh :P
[01:23] <Kyral> X is merely the framework
[01:23] <SpacePope> well can somebody help me out then since the guy who was apparently went afk?
[01:23] <JosefK> sudo kill -9 `find /media/cdrom -exec fuser {} \; | sed -e 's/^.*://' -e 's/\([0-9] *\)[a-zA-Z] /\1/'`
[01:24] <Kyral> X requires a window manager
[01:24] <georgy> sdubois92 : search after preferences
[01:24] <JosefK> ^ can anyone confirm that last sed command there (kills all processes using files on a CD)
[01:24] <J-_> is there a program that i can get that i can, which will tell me what exact colour a part of a picture or pixel is?
[01:24] <sdubois92> what?
[01:24] <SilentDissonance> mrj: thanks :)
[01:24] <J-_> that i can get**
[01:25] <georgy> sdubois92, : edition ---> preferences
[01:25] <meal3837> !png
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about png - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:25] <sdubois92> im there
[01:25] <meal3837> !desktop
[01:25] <ubotu> The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are Gnome (ubuntu-desktop), KDE (kubuntu-desktop), XCFE (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.
[01:25] <erik_> SilentDissonance: check out getautomatix.com it will help get codecs and other common things set up
[01:25] <sdubois92> it has a list of things like master, aux, microphone
[01:26] <georgy> sdubois92,: enable it all
[01:26] <Celeste> is there a simple way to save all the firefox bookmarks as a file or so?  I need to setup my PC from new and I would like to keep by bookmarks
[01:26] <EriK> since everybody else is thainking you, thank you, erik_  for making my irc client light up like a christmas tree :))
[01:26] <EriK> s/thainking/thanking/
[01:27] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[01:27] <Scorched> I have a server that has gotten very messed up, is there a way to rebuild it with a fresh install while I'm still remote?
[01:27] <Megaqwerty> does anyone know the MD5 Sum of the Ubuntu Live CD?
[01:27] <meal3837> off the top of my head?
[01:27] <lhds> hey i want to copy a personnal dvd and i have ubuntu, one dvd reader and one dvd recorder how to proceed?
[01:27] <meal3837> not really
[01:27] <JosefK> Celeste: firefox can export them iirc, it's in Manage Bookmarks or the file menu (failing that, ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/bookmarks.html)
[01:27] <sdubois92> nothing still
[01:27] <SpacePope> I just left Ubuntu installing before I went to schoo, it's done now, and I don't know how to get my Netgear WGT111T adapter to work
[01:28] <izm99> i'm trying to compile a java program on ubuntu, and it's complaining about iface.UserInterface from swing.  anyone have an idea how to fix this?
[01:28] <harisund> Hello! I have a DHCP server running, and my LAN clients acquire IPs correctly. The DHCP server's leases file shows me the currently connected machines. Now what do I need to setup so that from the LAN I can access the machines by their host names rather than their IPs?
[01:28] <whatsreal> SpacePope: sorry I got called away
[01:28] <SpacePope> oh ok
[01:29] <SpacePope> i just get paranoid when i don't get a response after a while
[01:29] <SilentDissonance> thanks guys, i'll poke around.  rather nice to have knowledgeable people right here to help :)  again, thank you :)
[01:29] <georgy> sdubois92: how you try to hear sound via cd ?
[01:29] <erik_> sorry, should I get a different name? first time using irc
[01:29] <erik_> @erik
[01:29] <sdubois92> no, im playing a youtube video
[01:29] <sdubois92> trying to hear sound from that
[01:29] <whatsreal> yeah, ummm...lets see
[01:29] <EriK> no, erik_
[01:30] <erik_> oik
[01:30] <erik_> ok
[01:30] <EriK> I was kidding, makes me pay more attention to this channel, anyway
[01:30] <georgy> sdubois92 : do you have restart your browser ?
[01:30] <Megaqwerty> does anyone know the MD5 Sum of the Ubuntu Live CD?
[01:30] <JosefK> harisund: you can setup a DNS server somewhere, or just add 'ip hostname' entries into /etc/hosts
[01:30] <meal3837> sdubois92: are all your cables plugged in?
[01:30] <sdubois92> all of my cables are in
[01:30] <eclipse75> 0mG... how do 1 1nst@ll a .eXe?!?!
[01:30] <eclipse75> hehe just kidding
[01:30] <sdubois92> should i restart my browser?
[01:30] <eclipse75> just trying out the ubuntu liv
[01:30] <eclipse75> **live
[01:30] <georgy> sdubois92, : yes
[01:30] <eclipse75> ...
[01:30] <whatsreal> SpacePope: do you have your windows installer disk for your wireless adaptor?
[01:30] <SpacePope> yes
[01:30] <harisund> JosefK: adding to /etc/hosts will allow me to only access the DHCP clients from that machine. I want each client to be able to access each other client.. I can't go around modifying each client's /etc/hosts file, can I ?
[01:30] <meal3837> eclipse, how do you like it?
[01:31] <SpacePope> it's in the lappy right now
[01:31] <sdubois92> yes! it works!
[01:31] <sdubois92> thank you guys so much!
[01:31] <eclipse75> eh i like my slackware better
[01:31] <whatsreal> pop that in and see if you can find a netwg111.inf file or similar on it
[01:31] <jmitchj> JosefK...any idea why one DVD would work and not another?
[01:31] <eclipse75> im not much for automation
[01:31] <SpacePope> ok
[01:31] <eclipse75> =D
[01:31] <SpacePope> checking
[01:31] <harisund> JosefK: though your idea of setting up a DNS server is a good one. My question is, how do I synchronize between the DHCP server and the DNS server. Every time my DHCP server hands out a new lease, it should inform my DNS server.
[01:31] <georgy> sdubois92, : good, know we have one thing to do for the next boot
[01:31] <sdubois92> okay...
[01:32] <SpacePope> there is a file named 'netwg11t.inf'
[01:32] <georgy> sdubois92 ; wait a moment
[01:32] <sdubois92> gotcha
[01:32] <eclipse75> hrmm but this would be a good distro for people to be introduced to linux on
[01:32] <eclipse75> very clean
[01:32] <whatsreal> yeah thats the one. copy it over to your /root directory
[01:32] <meal3837> eclipse, you have to admit, that in a live cd setup, it's very nice to just go, and not worry about making everything work first
[01:32] <JosefK> harisund: you can tell the DHCP server to hand specific IPs to specific MAC addresses
[01:32] <eclipse75> yeah, but i like doing things the long way and plus they are to my spec then
[01:33] <JosefK> harisund: how you do it depends on the server, for the hostnames it might be easier to use NIS (http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/edgy/net/nis)
[01:33] <harisund> JosefK: again, the number of machines makes it hard to do so. Yes, that would be the solution indeed, and then store those addresses permenantly but what I am particularly looking for is some sort of automatic sync between the DHCP and DNS server
[01:33] <jmitchj> JosefK: any ideas on the DVD problem?
[01:33] <SpacePope> you mean the root folder under the file prowser?
[01:33] <meal3837> yeah, i hear ya. you would love debian, i'll bet
[01:33] <cpk2> I need help with how to edit my xorg.conf so I can pick different screen resolutions
[01:33] <georgy> sdubois92, : type sudo gedit /etc/modules in a console
[01:33] <whatsreal> it is a folder called root
[01:33] <SpacePope> ok
[01:33] <erik_> the root's home
[01:34] <whatsreal> erik_: yeah
[01:34] <ryanakca> Where can you see the results for that ubuntu survey in the #ubuntu-offtopic topic?
[01:34] <eclipse75> well im outty
[01:34] <eclipse75> have fun
[01:34] <meal3837> peace
[01:34] <SpacePope> it won't let me paste
[01:34] <JosefK> harisund: I worked in a company where we had upwards of 1000 PCs, and we _still_ assigned MAC addresses to specific IPs (desktop units were thin-clients though, so no need for them)
[01:34] <sdubois92> # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.
[01:34] <sdubois92> #
[01:34] <sdubois92> # This file contains the names of kernel modules that should be loaded
[01:34] <sdubois92> # at boot time, one per line. Lines beginning with "#" are ignored.
[01:34] <sdubois92> lp
[01:34] <sdubois92> psmouse
[01:34] <harisund> JosefK: ah ... awesome....
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste > sdubois92
[01:35] <whatsreal> SpacePope: then just put it in your home directory
[01:35] <georgy> sdubois92, : don't paste
[01:35] <sdubois92> okay
[01:35] <JosefK> harisund: really, for most of the machines in the network, you probably don't need hostname/IP matches (if you do - should you centralise storage?)
[01:35] <meal3837> !paste
[01:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:35] <SpacePope> ok, it's in my home directory
[01:35] <sdubois92> is everything all set?
[01:35] <JosefK> harisund: and for servers, it isn't so much hassle
[01:35] <georgy> sdubois92,  : Know add at the end snd-cs4236
[01:36] <Alllleex1> can anyone help a newb with a quick installing problem?
[01:36] <harisund> JosefK: Ok! Will have a look again. Thanks
[01:36] <whatsreal> open your package manager (I believe it is the bottom option of your applications menu) and poke around for an ndiswrapper
[01:36] <Geoffrey2> I have a 3 page document I need to scan and convert to pdf....if I scan them into Xsane, is there any way to take the three images and combine them into one pdf?
[01:36] <georgy> sdubois92, : and save
[01:36] <stodge> Any ideas how to remove the GNU Java packages without removing OpenOffice?
[01:36] <sdubois92> after psmouse?
[01:36] <sdubois92> so psmouse snd-cs4236
[01:36] <georgy> sdubois92, : yes
[01:36] <sdubois92> okay
[01:36] <JosefK> harisund: NIS is a good way to distribute those hostnames through the network though, np's
[01:37] <georgy> sdubois92, : in a new line
[01:37] <sdubois92> okay
[01:37] <whatsreal> sorry I can't be specific my lappy is old and not powerful enough for the graphics that come standard with ubuntu, so I am generalizing
[01:37] <sdubois92> all set?
[01:37] <Jeeves_Moss> all:  HELP!!!!  Can some one help me figure out what I did wrong with my install?  I can't get Gnome to come up and be stable
[01:37] <georgy> sdubois92 ; you save the file ?
[01:37] <sdubois92> yep
[01:37] <SpacePope> dunno where that is, and btw i think this is an older version of ubuntu
[01:37] <SpacePope> i got it on a cd and it got here in april
[01:37] <whatsreal> hmmmm....ok
[01:38] <georgy> sdubois92, : know reboot your computer, and tell me if you have sound
[01:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Jeeves_Moss: Is this a new install or were you trying to add something to it?
[01:38] <sdubois92> okay, i will be right back
[01:38] <Jeeves_Moss> Jack_Sparrow:  WOW!!!  long time no chat!!!
[01:38] <meal3837> spacepope: ubuntu didn't beg you to update?
[01:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Yep
[01:38] <Jack_Sparrow> How ya been
[01:38] <whatsreal> can anyone give me a hand with SpacePope I don't have enough experience with the ubuntu package manager to be able to guide him without it infront of me
[01:38] <SpacePope> no intarwebs on this comp yet
[01:39] <eternalswd> anyone know a howto for building windows programs in ubuntu?
[01:39] <Red-Sox> Hi, I need some help with 6.06, just installed and it says that eth1 is active, but Firefox can't display any pages or anything, this is over a wi-fi network
[01:39] <Kyral> eternalswd: you...can't
[01:39] <Alllleex1> anyone know how to install shake 4 on ubuntu?
[01:39] <Kyral> eternalswd: unless its like Java or Perl or some basic scripting language thats been ported to Windows
[01:39] <Jeeves_Moss> Jack_Sparrow: I was mucking around with apache, php5, and MySQL, then when I rebooted, it orignaly said that it coulden't load X server, so I reinstalled xserver-xorg, and not it comes up to a blank screen with a pointer!!
[01:39] <whatsreal> SpacePope: not even an ethernet?
[01:39] <SpacePope> at the bottom of applications there is an add applications option
[01:39] <[BTF] Chm0d> if I have the nvidia drivers installed should I have this file? libGL.so
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Jeeves_Moss: Can you get to recovery mode.?
[01:40] <JosefK> Red-Sox: it most likely tried to bring eth1 up, but couldn't because of WEP/WPA
[01:40] <whatsreal> SpacePope: yeah, that is the option we want, do you have an ethernet cable you can plug in there?
[01:40] <SpacePope> i can't get to an internet connection unless i hardwire it with a cat5
[01:40] <SpacePope> which is why i'm trying to get the adapter to work
[01:40] <JosefK> Red-Sox: _or_ you have eth0 and eth1 pointing to the same network (that confuses the poor thing)
[01:40] <SpacePope> but i am right next to my router
[01:40] <Red-Sox> JosefK: no it's not
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Jeeves_Moss: IF so use   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:40] <SpacePope> so i can plug in a cat5
[01:40] <JosefK> Red-Sox: ifconfig eth1 - does it have an IP assigned?
[01:40] <Red-Sox> JosefK: eth0 is active, should I disconnect it?
[01:40] <whatsreal> cause we will need to download some programs to get your wireless working
[01:40] <JosefK> Red-Sox: indeed, you can 'sudo ifdown eth0' to take it down
[01:41] <SpacePope> ok let me find a cat5
[01:41] <JosefK> Red-Sox: if you don't want it to come up when you next boot, remove the 'auto eth0' line from /etc/network/interfaces
[01:41] <Red-Sox> okay JosefK I'll give it a try thanks
[01:41] <Jeeves_Moss> Jack_Sparrow:  I did that one allready.  Then it booted into a desktop (no icons, etc), and when I clicked on the menus, the system locked up.  I rebooted, and I get a log in, once I type in my stuff, it goes to the blank desktop (no menus or icons), and a pointer!!!
[01:41] <[BTF] Chm0d>  if I have the nvidia drivers installed should I have this file? libGL.so
[01:41] <JosefK> Red-Sox: np's
[01:41] <vickythedoc> hi, what program is good for web page building, i need something similar to dreamweaver
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Jeeves_Moss: I suppose no backup..
[01:41] <georgy> vickythedoc,: try nvu
[01:41] <sdubois92> everything works
[01:41] <Kyral> vickythedoc: Learning the language yourself :P
[01:42] <sdubois92> i heard the login sound
[01:42] <cpk2> how would i go about having my display have more screen resolutions?
[01:42] <Kyral> HTML isn't hard....
[01:42] <meal3837> somebody smarter than me: where  can I find the background images?
[01:42] <Jeeves_Moss> Jack+Sparrow:  lol...  ummmm.  no?
[01:42] <sdubois92> nvu is awesome
[01:42] <sdubois92> very easy to use
[01:42] <Geoffrey2> I have a three page document that I need to scan and convert to pdf...what's the best way to keep all three pages in the same pdf document?
[01:42] <sdubois92> better in linux
[01:42] <Red-Sox> JosefK: still doesn't work :(
[01:42] <eternalswd> kyral, that stinks.  know of a way I can pipe internet from my ubuntu machine to my windows machine when with my ubuntu machine connected to a proxy server?
[01:42] <vickythedoc> kyral i know but i like help with text editing
[01:42] <JosefK> meal3837: /usr/share/backgrounds
[01:42] <sdubois92> just like a word processing document
[01:42] <matttail> can any one tell me, if I were to instal ubuntu (or possibly kubuntu) and switch over to using windomaker, will I still get automatic updates?
[01:42] <Kyral> eternalswd: I didn't say impossible. But for something like C....
[01:42] <vickythedoc> ok thanks sdubois92 and georgy
[01:42] <SpacePope> ok i plugged the laptop into the router
[01:42] <JosefK> Red-Sox: erk :/ 'sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifdown eth1 && sleep 3 && sudo ifup eth1'
[01:43] <georgy> sdubois : great ! remember that the module for your souncard are: snd-cs4236 for the next time you have to configure it
[01:43] <Kyral> eternalswd: Java should work...as should Perl...just don't use *Nix specifics
[01:43] <sdubois92> thanks georgy for helping me with my sound problem
[01:43] <Alllleex1> how do you get permission to copy files from your desktop to the File System?
[01:43] <JosefK> Red-Sox: after that, check you can ping your router by its IP, and then try pinging www.google.com
[01:43] <harisund> Does iptables allow ranges of ip addresses in its configuration?
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Jeeves_Moss: nless there is something really special and must untangle that mess you might want to reinstall.
[01:43] <lupine_85> harisund: for most things, yes
[01:43] <Red-Sox> JosefK: that is the longest command I've ever tried....
[01:43] <eternalswd> kyral, the program I'm testing is mostly c++
[01:43] <lupine_85> specify using the CIDR range
[01:43] <lupine_85> e.g. 192.168.0.0/24
[01:43] <clepto> hi i need some help... i installed ubuntu and everything now when i try to start it it goes to the login screen and i type in my username and password then the screen flashes a few times and then resets to the login screen. this happens 4 to 6 times then it brings me to the text login screen i log in then i can startx no problem... how do i fix this?
[01:43] <SpacePope> there is a cord going from my router into my ethernet card
[01:43] <SpacePope> now
[01:44] <harisund> lupine_85: So I am guessing I could do 192.168.0.127/12 ?
[01:44] <whatsreal> ok, you should be able to open a terminal (or use the already open one) and type sudo dhcpcd
[01:44] <Jeeves_Moss> Jack_Sparrow:  ummmm, yea actuly, there is a 1Gb video I was working on in Ubuntu that the only way of getting it off is to burn it to a DVD.  Is there a magic program that will reinstall all the missing parts?
[01:44] <lupine_85> erm, if your network is that broken then yes
[01:44] <clepto> hi i need some help... i installed ubuntu and everything now when i try to start it it goes to the login screen and i type in my username and password then the screen flashes a few times and then resets to the login screen. this happens 4 to 6 times then it brings me to the text login screen i log in then i can startx no problem... how do i fix this?
[01:44] <Red-Sox> JosefK: when this is done, just "Ping http://www.google.com?"
[01:44] <whatsreal> that should getyou internet
[01:44] <lupine_85> harisund: erm, if your network is that broken then yes
[01:44] <SpacePope> nope
[01:44] <JosefK> Red-Sox: try pinging your router (192.168.1.1?) first
[01:44] <Red-Sox> 0.1
[01:44] <SpacePope> i'm not getting anything
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Jeeves_Moss: I wish..
[01:44] <lupine_85> the very *most* you should be taking in that IP range is a /16
[01:44] <whatsreal> ok type ifconfig
[01:44] <Red-Sox> but okay JosefK, but this command isn't done yet....
[01:44] <Jeeves_Moss> Jack_Sparrow:  join me in #Jeeves
[01:45] <SpacePope> ok
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Jeeves_Moss: Can you access the video data with a livecd
[01:45] <harisund> lupine_85: So I am guessing I could do 192.168.0.128/12, I mean .. Here's my thing. I have my DHCP server setup to hand IP address from 192.168.10.2 to 192.168.10.127 to known hosts, and 192.168.10.129 to 192.168.10.254 to unknown hosts. And I want to use iptables rules for the unknown hosts. So what I mentioned is possible?
[01:45] <JosefK> Red-Sox: if it responds, you have net access - Ctl+C to kill it - try pinging www.google.com
[01:45] <lupine_85> anything more and you start cutting chunks of the internet away from you
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[01:45] <eternalswd> kyral, would I be able to connect to the proxy from my windows machine if I set up an ssh server on my ubuntu box.  my two boxes are currently connected via crossover cable
[01:45] <JosefK> Red-Sox: if you can ping your router, but not www.google.com, that means the problem's DNS
[01:45] <SpacePope> ok i typed ifconfig
[01:45] <whatsreal> which of the interfaces there look like they will work, there is probably a l0 and a eth0 or fxp0 or something of that variety that has a mac address under it
[01:45] <lupine_85> harisund: a better solution would be to use two different networks
[01:46] <lupine_85> e.g. 192.168.0.0/24 and 192.168.1.0/24
[01:46] <harisund> lupine_85: my eth1 (LAN NIC) IP is 192.168.10.1 Will it work if I have two different /24 subnets?
[01:46] <Red-Sox> ah JosefK gtg, bbl thank you
[01:46] <meal3837> whatsreal: or maybe ath0
[01:46] <lupine_85> linux can only take so much breakage before it acts insanely
[01:46] <JosefK> np's, turning in for the night myself
[01:46] <lupine_85> harisund: you can give it another IP in the second range if needed
[01:46] <clepto> can anyone help me with my problem?
[01:46] <georgy> !ask
[01:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:46] <SpacePope> i don't know :(
[01:46] <clepto> i did
[01:46] <harisund> lupine_85: ok ! And hehe .. no I do not intend to break my box .. it is my router here :)
[01:46] <[BTF] Chm0d> anyone answer a question for me?
[01:46] <Alllleex1> Can someone help?  I need to know how to copy files to the System Files from my desktop, does anyone know how the change the settings so i have permission to copy the files over?
[01:46] <clepto> hi i need some help... i installed ubuntu and everything now when i try to start it it goes to the login screen and i type in my username and password then the screen flashes a few times and then resets to the login screen. this happens 4 to 6 times then it brings me to the text login screen i log in then i can startx no problem... how do i fix this?
[01:47] <SpacePope> there's inet addr and inet6 addr
[01:47] <SpacePope> and a bunch of stuff i can't understand
[01:47] <SpacePope> :)
[01:47] <lupine_85> you can ignore inet6 usually
[01:47] <SpacePope> mask
[01:47] <lupine_85> use ip, by the way, not ifconfig
[01:47] <georgy> clepto : wath's your graphic card
[01:47] <meal3837> clepto: what do you mean by "and everything"?
[01:47] <martin> what is the easiest way to update ubuntu
[01:47] <SpacePope> MTU,Metric
[01:47] <clepto> ati radeon 7000
[01:47] <SpacePope> :S
[01:48] <whatsreal> lupine_85: I will admit to being a general linux geek and a relative newbie to ubuntu specifically.
[01:48] <clepto> i installed the drivers using synaptic package manager
[01:48] <lupine_85> good for you :)
[01:48] <clepto> reset it and its still not doing it
[01:48] <whatsreal> lupine_85: what does ip do?
[01:48] <SpacePope> so do you want the ipaddress?
[01:48] <whatsreal> is it more nicely formatted?
[01:48] <meal3837> martin: sudo apt-get update
[01:48] <lupine_85> it's the replacement to the legacy ifconfig and route
[01:48] <georgy> clepto ; wich driver you have install
[01:48] <meal3837> sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:48] <[BTF] Chm0d> martin click on system, administration, update manager
[01:48] <lupine_85> for instance: ip addr show
[01:48] <clepto> hold on lemme check
[01:48] <lupine_85> ip -6 addr show
[01:48] <lupine_85> etc...
[01:48] <whatsreal> you have an ip address?
[01:48] <SpacePope>  i don't think it's a real one
[01:49] <SpacePope> 127.0.0.1
[01:49] <martin> thank you
[01:49] <meal3837> space pope: that's the loopback address
[01:49] <clepto> xorg-driver-fglrx
[01:49] <sdubois92> Georgy my sound isnt working again
[01:49] <eternalswd> how do I set up an ssh server with public, private keys with the client computer being a Windows box?
[01:49] <whatsreal> no that is (probably) your l0 device, type ip like lupine_85 suggested and see what devices you have under there
[01:49] <martin> is there any way to get dell printers to work with linux...
[01:50] <martin> that has been my major turn-off
[01:50] <SpacePope> it said usage:ip
[01:50] <georgy> clepto : ask somebody else, i'm not a ati expert
[01:50] <SpacePope> and a bunch of stuff under
[01:50] <lupine_85> eternalswd: "I'm feeling lucky" on google with public key authentication as the string
[01:50] <lupine_85> SpacePope: "ip addr show"
[01:50] <georgy> sdubois: what's happen ?
[01:50] <clepto> well im in x now
[01:50] <whatsreal> try ip -a
[01:50] <whatsreal> or what lupine_85 said
[01:50] <meal3837> clepto try unistalling th driver
[01:50] <lupine_85> ip is completely different to ifconfig
[01:50] <lupine_85> man ip for full details
[01:51] <SpacePope>  i typed in ip addr show
[01:51] <clepto> georgy: im in x now i dont think its a driver problem. becuase i can run it. i had the problem before i installed the driver too
[01:51] <SpacePope> and got a bunch of stuff
[01:51] <clepto> the problem is the log in screen
[01:51] <meal3837> clepto: you might try reinstalling ubuntu
[01:51] <lupine_85> !pastebin
[01:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:51] <lupine_85> do that
[01:51] <meal3837> sometimes, things can get weird
[01:51] <lupine_85> meal3837: this isn't windows ;)
[01:51] <georgy> sdubois92, : ?
[01:51] <clepto> that is not working it keeps crashing and resetting i even tried the different log in screens eventually it gives up trying and boots me to the text prompt then i can log in that way and startx
[01:52] <SpacePope> it says event not found
[01:52] <sdubois92> i tried playing a youtube clip again but i didnt hear any sound
[01:52] <meal3837> lupine: true
[01:52] <SpacePope> keep in mind i chose not to set up ethernet during the ubuntu installation
[01:52] <SpacePope> if that means anything
[01:52] <lupine_85> makes no difference
[01:53] <georgy> sdubois92, : okay, in a console : sudo modprobe snd-cs4236
[01:53] <_m0nk> hey guys
[01:53] <SpacePope> well i got event not found
[01:53] <_m0nk> i was wondering if you guys could help me with something
[01:53] <SpacePope> :S
[01:54] <MinisterPolite> any idea why xgl is broken? no one in #xgl is speaking
[01:54] <sdubois92> No sound
[01:54] <_m0nk> i have an SSH server setup...and i was wondering if you guy scould tell me how to get X forwarding to work
[01:54] <sdubois92> i restarted my browser
[01:54] <lupine_85> try #ubuntu-xgl
[01:54] <sdubois92> no sound
[01:54] <ku> Hey guys, I'm just wondering, how would I remove ubuntu without doing any harm to my windows partition? I'm mostly worried about the boot partition ruining my ability to boot into windows. I'm only doing this because I'll soon get another machine which I'll dedicate to linux and I'd like to remove it completely from this one.
[01:54] <meal3837> lupine: do you know where ubuntu keeps its background pictures?
[01:54] <SpacePope> that didn't give me any response
[01:55] <georgy> sdubois92: open a mixer
[01:55] <sdubois92> what was the thing to type into the console to get the gnome mixer up?
[01:55] <_m0nk> i am using puTTy to connect to my laptop right now if that helps with my question at all
[01:56] <georgy> sdubois92 : gnome-volume-control
[01:56] <mcphail> _m0nk: you can't forward X unless you are running an X server on your local machine
[01:56] <treedreamer> hi,all
[01:56] <sktrdie> Hello
[01:56] <SpacePope> have you guys given up on me? :(
[01:56] <_m0nk> my n00b bad
[01:56] <[BTF] Chm0d>  if I have the nvidia drivers installed should I have this file? libGL.so
[01:56] <lupine_85> SpacePope: where's the pastebin ?
[01:56] <mcphail> _m0nk: try installing cygwin
[01:57] <SpacePope> pastebin gave me event not found
[01:57] <lupine_85> ...?
[01:57] <lupine_85> !pastebin
[01:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:57] <_m0nk> do i need cygwin on any windows boxes i use?
[01:57] <lupine_85> works here
[01:57] <decherdtt> SpaceP try sdo modprobe -a, to load the netcard module
[01:57] <_m0nk> because i am setting this up more for my *at school use*
[01:57] <SpacePope> !pastebin
[01:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:58] <decherdtt> SpacePope: then sudo ifup eth0
[01:58] <mcphail> _m0nk: as far as i am aware you will have to run an X server on any machine you wish to forward X to
[01:58] <SpacePope> it prompted me for a password
[01:58] <_m0nk> ok are there any Java based apps for that, that i can download?
[01:59] <lupine_85> ...no. it dosn't.
[01:59] <SpudDogg> Does anyone here know if it is possible to stream movies from a windows share in ubuntu?  Is there a particular movie player I need for that?
[01:59] <_m0nk> java is the ONE thing my school cant take from me:)
[01:59] <SpacePope> i typed sudo ifup eth0
[01:59] <mcphail> _m0nk: the alternative would be to use vnc or nx
[01:59] <meal3837> spacepope: that's your system password, for sudo privileges, same as login
[01:59] <Gekitsuu> SpudDogg: VLC works pretty well for streaming video cross-platform
[01:59] <_m0nk> i see
[01:59] <snooo> could someone help me with a apt-get issue? I'm having trouble trying to download dev files, keep finding unmet depedencies. using dapper and backports.
[01:59] <Buglouse> what are you tring to ger
[02:00] <Buglouse> get*
[02:00] <_m0nk> i can stick with text terminals i guess:) those are more 1337 than VNC
[02:00] <treedreamer> I have some problem with locales, i just want to make English my default language,but to use my native language when opening a certain app ,say ,gedit ,i searched the Web but found no helpful information . Is there anyone giving me some tips :-P
[02:00] <snooo> Buglouse: evolution-dev
[02:00] <SpacePope> it now says 'ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0'
[02:00] <_m0nk> and i dont want to open up anymore ports on my router
[02:00] <SpudDogg> Gekitsuu:  Isn't VLC for remote desktop?
[02:00] <[BTF] Chm0d> poopy ive asked my question 3 times nobody wants to answer? :(
[02:00] <Gekitsuu> SpudDogg: Nope that's VNC
[02:00] <lupine_85> eth0 doesn't exist then
[02:00] <Gekitsuu> SpudDogg: www.videolan.org
[02:00] <decherdtt> SpacePope:  Figure, twas a blind shot in the dark
[02:00] <SpudDogg> Gekitsuu:  Ahh, ok...Sorry, lol
[02:00] <SpudDogg> Gekitsuu:  Thanks man
[02:01] <Buglouse> snooo: worked for me
[02:01] <mcphail> _m0nk: if you run nx you won't need to open any new ports
[02:01] <Gekitsuu> SpudDogg: No problem :)
[02:01] <Buglouse> sooo: what command are you useing
[02:01] <_m0nk> i wont? it will work through port 22?
[02:01] <mcphail> _m0nk: (it uses ssh)
[02:01] <snooo> Buglouse: apt-get install evolution-dev
[02:01] <SpacePope> so what does that mean for me if eth0 doesn't exist?
[02:01] <meal3837> do you have an ethernet adapter?
[02:01] <Buglouse> snooo: add sudo before that and you should be fine
[02:01] <_m0nk> mcphail: thats what i like to hear:) you get my attention when you say SSH:)
[02:01] <thammmmmmmkjkj> Can i get help on setting up a network mainly for Internet connection shearing please ,i have a ubuntu system and a window both connected to a hub
[02:01] <lupine_85> it means that it didn't find your ethernet adaptor... or that it called it eth1
[02:01] <lupine_85> or something
[02:01] <snooo> Buglouse: I am using sudo.
[02:01] <romdos> SpacePope: it is not entered in /etc/network/interfaces
[02:01] <Buglouse> snooo: kk
[02:01] <snooo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24943
[02:02] <SpacePope> it's a card thing that slides into the side of the laptop, with a place to insert a cat5 cable
[02:02] <snooo> is the output im getting
[02:02] <mcphail> _m0nk: the server is in the seveas repository, but it is a little bit of a fiddle to set up
[02:02] <snooo> its complaining about unmet dependencies
[02:02] <_m0nk> ok heres my next question...how can i switch from pty to tty whie im connected? *if there is a way*
[02:02] <romdos> SpacePope: try /sbin/ifconfid -a to see all interfaces (not just the ones that are up)
[02:03] <meal3837> spacepope: make suere your pcmcia services are activated
[02:03] <SpacePope>  it says no such file or directory
[02:03] <meal3837> and that your internet switch(if you have one on your lappy) is turned on
[02:03] <romdos> SpacePope: try /sbin/ifconfig -a  (sorry)
[02:03] <Buglouse> snooo: well if i can do it then im sure that you don't have the corrent dependacie intalled
[02:03] <Buglouse> snooo: type
[02:03] <snooo> something is messed up - i have nothing to upgrade...
[02:04] <Buglouse> snooo: sudo apt-get update
[02:04] <snooo> Buglouse: have done that
[02:04] <SpacePope> meal3837: I don't know what a pcmcia service is
[02:04] <SpacePope> first time ever using linux
[02:04] <Buglouse> snooo: could you pm me your depenancy list?
[02:04] <sdubois92> Georgy, still no luck with the sound. I turned everything in the sound mixer on all the way but still no luck
[02:04] <romdos> SpacePope: what are you trying to connect to?
[02:05] <Shish> I don't know what a pcmcia service is and I've been using linux for ~5 years ._.;;
[02:05] <georgy> sdubois92: do you restart your browser ?
[02:05] <sdubois92> yes
[02:05] <snooo> Buglouse: what dependency list? the one produced by evolution-dev?
[02:05] <SpacePope> i'm trying to connect to a series of tubes
[02:05] <meal3837> it's a laptop thing
[02:05] <_m0nk> pcmcia arent those laptop pci?
[02:05] <georgy> sdubois: strange
[02:05] <_m0nk> liek where you stick network cards and junk
[02:05] <meal3837> he's using a pcmcia ethernet adapter
[02:05] <romdos> SpacePope: you have a dhcp server or a static ip?
[02:05] <Shish> That'd be why then; I've never had a laptop D:
[02:05] <SpacePope> static
[02:06] <Buglouse> snooo: no your dependency list... here type this
[02:06] <georgy> sdubois92 : type a lsmod in a console and pastebin
[02:06] <zmutte> Strange, I cannot connect to my workstation through ad-hoc from my ubuntu laptop
[02:06] <meal3837> the problem might be that it's not turned on, either in the hardware, or the software
[02:06] <georgy> !pastebin
[02:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:06] <_m0nk> shish: before i had a laptop i knew tat:| but only because my dad had me reading tech manuals when i was younger
[02:06] <sdubois92> how do i pastebin
[02:06] <amicrawle> i'm having a problem with sudo dpkg -i
[02:06] <towsonu2003> I have a real stupid question: how do you download debian unstable? I just couldn't locate any guides...
[02:06] <amicrawle> pastebin.com
[02:06] <romdos> SpacePope: have you entered in all your info (default gateway, nameservers)?
[02:06] <Buglouse> snooo: vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:06] <georgy> sdubois92, : ! pastebin
[02:06] <Alllleex1> Anyone know how to install Flexlm from the distro?
[02:06] <SpacePope> to where?
[02:07] <SpacePope> i just installed ubuntu
[02:07] <snooo> Buglouse: oh my sources.list
[02:07] <snooo> i'll pastebin it
[02:07] <SpacePope> and i am talking to you all on a different pc of course
[02:07] <amicrawle> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of vdrift-full
[02:07] <snooo> vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:07] <Buglouse> snooo: look in there for all the links thouse are your depencese
[02:07] <snooo> woops
[02:07] <Shish> towsonu2003: #debian would be more appropriate... but you can just edit /etc/apt/sources.list from an existing debian install and change "stable" to "unstable"
[02:07] <_m0nk> i was lucky as hell when i installed ubuntu
[02:07] <_m0nk> i put it on an old toshiba satelite 4200
[02:07] <sdubois92> !pastebin steven@IBM:~$  lsmod
[02:07] <sdubois92> Module                  Size  Used by
[02:07] <sdubois92> rfcomm                 40216  0
[02:07] <sdubois92> l2cap                  26244  5 rfcomm
[02:07] <sdubois92> bluetooth              50020  4 rfcomm,l2cap
[02:07] <sdubois92> nvram                   9224  1
[02:07] <romdos> SpacePope: well, ubuntu has a gui way to do it, but it can also be done in /etc/network/interfaces
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin steven@IBM:~$  lsmod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <sdubois92> uinput                  9088  1
[02:07] <sdubois92> ppdev                   9220  0
[02:07] <_m0nk> *everything was supported*
[02:07] <ladydoor> !paste
[02:07] <sdubois92> cpufreq_userspace       4696  0
[02:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:07] <sdubois92> cpufreq_stats           5636  0
[02:07] <sdubois92> freq_table              4740  1 cpufreq_stats
[02:07] <ruzgar> is there a clipboard program in gnome works flawless like klipboard?
[02:07] <ladydoor> sdubois92: stop!
[02:07] <sdubois92> cpufreq_powersave       1920  0
[02:07] <sdubois92> cpufreq_ondemand        6428  0
[02:07] <sdubois92> cpufreq_conservative     7332  0
[02:07] <ladydoor> sdubois92: use pastebin
[02:07] <zmutte> ahem
[02:08] <zmutte> ....
[02:08] <sdubois92> dm_mod                 58936  1
[02:08] <Shish> ....
[02:08] <sdubois92> md_mod                 72532  0
[02:08] <amicrawle> how do i fix this problem
[02:08] <sdubois92> ipv6                  265728  6
[02:08] <towsonu2003> thanks Shish :)
[02:08] <ladydoor> sdubois92: STOP
[02:08] <sdubois92> snd_cs4236             16324  3
[02:08] <sdubois92> snd_opl3_lib           10624  1 snd_cs4236
[02:08] <sdubois92> snd_hwdep               9376  1 snd_opl3_lib
[02:08] <sdubois92> snd_cs4236_lib         16512  1 snd_cs4236
[02:08] <zmutte> sdubois92: part from channel
[02:08] <sdubois92> snd_mpu401_uart         7808  1 snd_cs4236
[02:08] <sdubois92> snd_rawmidi            25504  1 snd_mpu401_uart
[02:08] <SpacePope> good gof
[02:08] <sdubois92> snd_seq_device          8716  2 snd_opl3_lib,snd_rawmidi
[02:08] <sdubois92> af_packet              22920  2
[02:08] <ladydoor> !ops
[02:08] <sdubois92> snd_cs4231_lib         26752  2 snd_cs4236,snd_cs4236_lib
[02:08] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[02:08] <sdubois92> snd_pcm_oss            53664  0
[02:08] <TuxthePenguin84> lol
[02:08] <sdubois92> snd_mixer_oss          18688  2 snd_pcm_oss
[02:08] <SpacePope> the text
[02:08] <|freaky|> oi vey
[02:08] <sdubois92> snd_pcm                89864  4 snd_cs4236_lib,snd_cs4231_lib,snd_pcm_oss
[02:08] <SpacePope> it keeps going up and up
[02:08] <sdubois92> snd_timer              25220  3 snd_opl3_lib,snd_cs4231_lib,snd_pcm
[02:08] <thammmmmmmkjkj> can some some one pm me ,really need a hand
[02:08] <zmutte> thank lord
[02:08] <Seveas> !someone > thammmmmmmkjkj
[02:08] <SpacePope> what about the GUI way to do it?
[02:08] <benh> hrm
[02:08] <benh> benh@tika:~$ sudo ifup eth1
[02:08] <benh> wpa_supplicant: wpa-action support has been removed, see wpa_action(8) manpage...aborting!
[02:08] <benh> run-parts: /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wpasupplicant exited with return code 1
[02:09] <SpacePope> how?where?
[02:09] <nalioth> benh: please don't paste
[02:09] <ruzgar> is there a clipboard program in gnome works flawless like klipboard?
[02:09] <meal3837> spacepope: system > administration> networking
[02:09] <_m0nk> sorry guys i got disconnected :| something broke my wifi connection
[02:09] <Buglouse> Does anyone know of the Windows Internet Media Streamer called Sam3 Media Broadcaster?  I'm looking iether to install that on my Ubuntu Drapper Drake OS or an alternative to that.
[02:09] <nalioth> benh: please don't paste
[02:09] <benh> oops
[02:09] <zmutte> I need some help with iwconfig, I have configured it to be able to connect to my stationary computer through ad hoc but it doens't make any connections
[02:09] <benh> what problem do you guys have with pasting 2 lines !!!???
[02:09] <SpacePope> ok, i'm there
[02:09] <thammmmmmmkjkj> seveas please help darling
[02:09] <Ash-Fox> ~xgl
[02:09] <benh> damn, it's sort of a fascist channel here ?
[02:09] <Ash-Fox> !xgl
[02:09] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:10] <romdos> SpacePope: um, system->administration->networking
[02:10] <benh> I understand needing pastebin for large pastes but there's a limit
[02:10] <zmutte> benh: two lines?
[02:10] <Seveas> thammmmmmmkjkj, if you don't say what you need help with, no one can help 
[02:10] <meal3837> what devices are listed?
[02:10] <_m0nk> why was sdu*whatever the rest is* posting up his running processes?
[02:10] <ladydoor> benh: what're you talking about?
[02:10] <amicrawle> how do i fix this problem
[02:10] <amicrawle> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of vdrift-full
[02:10] <SpacePope> i'm in the network settings now
[02:10] <meal3837> SPACEPOPE: There should be at least one device listed there
[02:10] <Seveas> amicrawle, sudo apt-get -f install
[02:11] <meal3837> etho, eth1, ath0 . . .
[02:11] <Alllleex1> How do u install flexlm?  Its not in the package manager
[02:11] <thammmmmmmkjkj> ok i cant get this frost wire to work ,the icon is there but nothing happens when clicked
[02:11] <amicrawle> what is -f mean
[02:11] <SpacePope> it says ethernet connection-the interface eth0 is not configured
[02:11] <meal3837> click on it, then click configure
[02:11] <benh> anyway
[02:11] <Buglouse> Does anyone know of the Windows Internet Media Streamer called Sam3 Media Broadcaster?  I'm looking iether to install that on my Ubuntu Drapper Drake OS or an alternative to that.
[02:11] <benh> someobody knows what's up with wpa supplicant in edgy ? ifup eth1 gives an error
[02:11] <SpacePope> there is no configure open
[02:11] <SpacePope> option
[02:11] <benh> about wpa-action support being removed
[02:12] <meal3837> try properties
[02:12] <SpacePope> all i see that i can do is properties
[02:12] <SpacePope> ok
[02:12] <SpacePope> i'm there?
[02:12] <benh> looked at the script, there's indeed a test for IF_WPA_ACTION, which doesn't seem to be defined anywhere (grepp'ed around /etc)
[02:12] <thammmmmmmkjkj> :'(
[02:12] <SpacePope> ignore the  question mark
[02:12] <meal3837> what options do you havea?
[02:12] <SpacePope> enable this connection is unchecked
[02:12] <meal3837> check it
[02:13] <SpacePope> now i have to fill out stuff
[02:13] <SpacePope> i guess
[02:13] <SpacePope> :S
[02:13] <romdos> SpacePope: yup
[02:13] <SpacePope> with what
[02:13] <meal3837> does it give you an option for dhcp?
[02:13] <jenda> I need help converting a CDClone image to iso (or burning it)
[02:13] <SpacePope> ye
[02:13] <SpacePope> s
[02:13] <meal3837> try that
[02:13] <meal3837> and then click ok
[02:13] <SpacePope> will it matter if i have a static ip on this desktop?
[02:13] <jenda> The instructions on the wiki fail at aclocal
[02:13] <meal3837> wait, tell me about your network
[02:14] <romdos> SpacePope: what type of isp do you have
[02:14] <SpacePope> cable=road runner
[02:14] <meal3837> router?
[02:14] <SpacePope> the wireless router is a netgear WGT624
[02:14] <JimyLinux> hi
[02:15] <JimyLinux> I have a question
[02:15] <thammmmmmmkjkj> Does any one know how i can go about configure a  network with 2 computers (one windows the other ubuntu)
[02:15] <meal3837> what is it's address?
[02:15] <SpacePope> i have the laptop hardwired into the wireless router
[02:15] <meal3837> 192.168.0.1?
[02:15] <SpacePope> my desktop is not connected to the wireless router
[02:15] <SpacePope> by the way
[02:15] <shawn_work> Erm, where did alsaconf go in Edgy?
[02:15] <georgy> thammmmmmmkjkj, : you need to install a samba server
[02:15] <shawn_work> I can't configure sound at all
[02:15] <meal3837> your modem has more than 1 port?
[02:15] <SpacePope> i think
[02:15] <SpacePope> well
[02:15] <meal3837> check it
[02:16] <Buglouse> Does anyone know of the Windows Internet Media Streamer called Sam3 Media Broadcaster?  I'm looking iether to install that on my Ubuntu Drapper Drake OS or an alternative to that.
[02:16] <romdos> SpacePope: sudo dhclient eth0 will let you know if dhcp will work for you
[02:16] <SpacePope> last time it was like
[02:16] <JimyLinux> I use Fedora Dore 5...how to install Ubuntu through wget or RPM??
[02:16] <snooo> Buglouse: have sorted it - i was missing a repoistory, weirdly
[02:16] <SpacePope> desktop>phone router>modem
[02:16] <ppo> Hi, is there a simple way to retrieve a file from a package?
[02:16] <ppo> I need to recover the file /etc/apache2/mods-available/ssl.conf (Drapper/AMD64)
[02:16] <SpacePope> let me double check
[02:16] <snooo> Buglouse: dapper-updates wasn't in the list
[02:16] <jrib> shawn_work: I don't think ubuntu uses alsaconf, but edgy support is in #ubuntu+1
[02:16] <thammmmmmmkjkj> thanks Georgy ,do i add that from the add/remover window
[02:16] <shawn_work> ok
[02:16] <lupine_85> ar -x the .deb file? ;)
[02:16] <georgy> thammmmmmmkjkj, ; yes
[02:16] <Buglouse> snoo: ... yes it was... if the link you gave me was your config then it was
[02:16] <Buglouse> and if not then add it
[02:17] <snooo> Buglouse: only the source was there
[02:17] <Gekitsuu> is anyone using bzr to manage /etc?
[02:17] <georgy> thammmmmmmkjkj, : but is not easy to configure it
[02:17] <georgy> !samba
[02:17] <snooo> source packages
[02:17] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:17] <zmutte> Kind of strange, the w-lan card can scan and so on but the lights aren't lit. I use the broadcom bcm43xx driver
[02:17] <SpacePope> this desktop is plugged into the phone router which is plugged into the cable modem
[02:17] <thammmmmmmkjkj> God bless you Georgy ,i will try my best to configure it
[02:17] <JimyLinux> :(
[02:17] <JimyLinux> I use Fedora Dore 5...how to install Ubuntu through wget or RPM??
[02:18] <Buglouse> snooo: well i always add more links to that file so that i can get more packages.
[02:18] <meal3837> ok, do you know if dhcp is enabled on the router?
[02:18] <Buglouse> snooo: did you get that package yet?
[02:18] <newpZ> hi for some reason i can not take the mov files from my digital cam and import them into kino... is there a way to convert them into a more standard mov format?
[02:18] <Mortuis> How do I tell how much memory each process is using on the command line?
[02:18] <gallag> JimyLinux: install wget through rpm? Not likely.
[02:18] <JimyLinux> oh~
[02:18] <gallag> JimyLinux: um -- I( mean ubuntu
[02:18] <snooo> Buglouse: yeah all sorted now. like i said, it was missing the dapper-updates repository - my sources-list is a state
[02:19] <Buglouse> snooo: nice to know
[02:19] <JimyLinux> :(
[02:19] <Buglouse> Does anyone know of the Windows Internet Media Streamer called Sam3 Media Broadcaster?  I'm looking iether to install that on my Ubuntu Drapper Drake OS or an alternative to that.
[02:19] <gallag> JimyLinux: installing ubuntu will need to be done with the installer
[02:19] <SpacePope> my laptop, which is the thing with ubuntu, is plugged into the wireless router,
[02:19] <snooo> cheers
[02:19] <JimyLinux> Only 600MB install CD?
[02:19] <JimyLinux> :(
[02:19] <meal3837> and that's the one we're trying to get working?
[02:19] <gallag> JimyLinux: Installing it, if you don't partition, will remove fedora, replacing it with ubuntu
[02:19] <gallag> JimyLinux: faryed so
[02:20] <SpacePope> we're trying to get the laptop working
[02:20] <meal3837> ok
[02:20] <gallag> JimyLinux: yes, you will have to download 600mb of iso
[02:20] <JimyLinux> I installed Fedora 5 5 days ago...
[02:20] <SpacePope> laptop>wireless>phonerouter>modem
[02:20] <nkayhan> Is there a reason why when you open "fail safe terminal" it's only a small box in the bottom of the screen, and is there a way of changing this?
[02:20] <meal3837> does the router serve dhcp?
[02:20] <gallag> JimyLinux: and ... so...
[02:20] <Mortuis> When I installed Apache, it installed a bunch of other packages that were dependencies.  I want to remove Apache now, how do I get it to get rid of all those other packages as well?
[02:20] <SpacePope> the wireless router>?
[02:20] <JimyLinux> I installed by ftp...install disk is 6.7 MB!!
[02:20] <SpacePope> probably
[02:20] <meal3837> yeah
[02:21] <fildo_> whats it like JimyLinux
[02:21] <meal3837> ok, then dhcp should work out for you
[02:21] <gallag> JimyLinux: um --
[02:21] <SpacePope> let me see if it works
[02:21] <JimyLinux> ubuntu have no ftp install?
[02:21] <meal3837> make sure your default gateway device is eth0
[02:21] <nkayhan> any ways to change the size?
[02:21] <gallag> JimyLinux: how was that -- I doubt anything that small would work
[02:21] <Shish> Mortuis: some of the more advanced package managers take care of that for themselves, there's nothing within apt itself
[02:21] <gallag> JimyLinux: ubuntu has no ftp install I know of
[02:21] <shwag> i am running dual monitors. How do I change which window is the 1st one...where the login screen appears.
[02:22] <Shish> Mortuis: although there is an app somewhere which'll list all the packages which are installed and not needed bu anything
[02:22] <JimyLinux> :(
[02:22] <Mortuis> Shish: So I'm SOL if I installed with apt-get?
[02:22] <briguyd> is it possible to share a USB external hard drive with samba?
[02:22] <SpacePope> ok i have internet working on the laptop now
[02:22] <Gekitsuu> shwag: one is to switch the video cables between the 2 cards
[02:22] <meal3837> cool
[02:22] <meal3837> i get people online for a living
[02:22] <nkayhan> can I change it?
[02:22] <meal3837> this is like working from home
[02:22] <meal3837> lol
[02:22] <JimyLinux> I need shipit CD...I must install 6 weeks later
[02:22] <SpacePope> but don't forget my problem is getting the WG111T wireless adapter working
[02:23] <meal3837> right
[02:23] <meal3837> ok
[02:23] <shwag> Gekitsuu: good thinkging!  but this is a laptop.
[02:23] <SpacePope> i'm just hardwiring this to update ubuntu
[02:23] <meal3837> built in card, or pcmcia?
[02:23] <SpacePope> pcmcia
[02:23] <Gekitsuu> shwag:  K I don't know for sure but changing the order they appear in the beginning when you do Screen0 LeftOf Screen1 might work
[02:23] <shwag> how do i install LAMP ?
[02:23] <nkayhan> Help, can you change the size of the failsafe terminal
[02:23] <gallag> JimyLinux: Freespire also requires a very large download, and it will replace fedora, just like ubuntu, but it's a bit easier. You may find it more friendly.\
[02:23] <SpacePope> the wireless adapter is USB though
[02:23] <gallag> shwag: through apt-get
[02:23] <Gekitsuu> shwag: so Sreen1 Right of Screen0
[02:24] <ladydoor> nkayhan: what resolution do you want?
[02:24] <meal3837> oh . . . ew
[02:24] <simtower> anyone know how to disable ssh login by password for only one user account? i am not super user
[02:24] <meal3837> lol
[02:24] <bimberi> ubotu tell shwag about lamp
[02:24] <briguyd> anyone?
[02:24] <nkayhan> ladydoor: whatever, so long as it fills the screen.
[02:24] <gallag> shwag: sudo apt-get install apache2 libapache2-mod-php5 mysql5-server
[02:24] <gallag> shwag: what ubotu said
[02:24] <meal3837> go ahead and update, i'll see what i can find out
[02:25] <JimyLinux> QUESTION....Ubuntu's advantage and Fedora's advantage? What is better? I have pentium 3 400Mhz 192MB ram PC...:)
[02:25] <ladydoor> nkayhan: ummm, i don't want to give you an incorrect resolution. all i know is that you can enter vga=792 as a kernel option in menu.lst to change the resolution, but i forget just what resolution that is.
[02:25] <HedgeMage> JimyLinux: that's like asking whether chocolate ice cream is better than strawberry.. it is, inevitably, a matter of taste more than anything else.
[02:25] <meal3837> jimylinux: ubuntu seems to run verywell on my 566mhz celeron machine
[02:25] <ArrenLex> ladydoor: why not change the resolution in xorg.conf?
[02:25] <briguyd> JimyLinux, i'd say xubuntu, though  i'm obviously biased
[02:25] <JimyLinux> And, I need linux for installing MEDIAWIKI
[02:26] <ladydoor> ArrenLex: because a failsafe terminal isn't x
[02:26] <ArrenLex> Ah.
[02:26] <HedgeMage> JimyLinux: Depending on how well you tweak it down, either could run.
[02:26] <gallag> JimyLinux: they are somewhat similar -- there are not gigantic advantages
[02:26] <nkayhan> ladydoor: well, is that 792 the resolution, I can monkey from there
[02:26] <JimyLinux> I heard goobuntu... it is good?
[02:26] <briguyd> is it possible to share a USB external hard drive with samba? i am having a bit of trouble
[02:26] <gallag> JimyLinux: it does not exist
[02:27] <JimyLinux> Ah
[02:27] <zoredache> it should be briguyd
[02:27] <JimyLinux> :(
[02:27] <gallag> JimyLinux: ubuntu uses gnome by default
[02:27] <Gekitsuu> brian98:  it is, I have a USB that is shared out via samba
[02:27] <briguyd> JimyLinux, with older hardware, you might want to try xubuntu
[02:27] <SpacePope> where do i go to update to dapper?
[02:27] <briguyd> Gekitsuu, how did you do it?
[02:27] <JimyLinux> Ah...
[02:27] <Seq> is there a way to determine what version of ubuntu you are running? Much like /etc/debian_version?
[02:27] <JimyLinux> xubuntu?
[02:27] <ladydoor> nkayhan: ummm...ish
[02:27] <Gekitsuu> same as a regular directory, It's just mounted and then I added a share statement in my smb.conf
[02:27] <briguyd> its basically ubuntu with the XFCE desktop instead of gnome, with omre lightweight apps
[02:27] <Seq> i suppose i should mention I'm curious from a scripting point of view..
[02:28] <POVaddct> Seq: cat /etc/issue
[02:28] <briguyd> hmm
[02:28] <bonko> im just installing. I need to have a /boot partition. do I install grub then to sda1 if that is the /boot part. or do i put sda?
[02:28] <briguyd> it shows up in my smbtree, but i cant mount it remotely
[02:28] <Seq> POVaddct: thanks!
[02:28] <Andrew67> of course issue could be modified, perhaps you can also check sources.list
[02:28] <bonko> by default it has hda for grub
[02:28] <JimyLinux> My Fedora 5 Gnome and KDE, Sound card is not working!! :(
[02:28] <ArrenLex> bonko: if you want grub to handle your master boot record, put it in sda
[02:28] <Andrew67> ??
[02:28] <Gekitsuu> briguyd: what is the error you're seeing?
[02:28] <gallag> JimyLinux: Tell a fedora forum or channel aboiut that
[02:28] <gallag> JimyLinux: you are not in the right place for that question
[02:29] <|freaky|> Does anyone here use KVirc?
[02:29] <JimyLinux> When I install debian woody, Sound is good...but fedora don't!!
[02:29] <bonko> ArrenLex: I typed in sda1, and now ubuntu is installing
[02:29] <briguyd> hmm, it worked now
[02:29] <briguyd> hold on
[02:29] <ladydoor> JimyLinux: this isn't debian.
[02:29] <gallag> JimyLinux: Tell #debian or #fedora
[02:29] <briguyd> wait
[02:29] <ArrenLex> bonko: you're not going to be able to boot it.
[02:29] <briguyd> no it didnt
[02:29] <superman> Does anyone know if the US repositories are working?
[02:29] <SpacePope> where do i go to update to dapper?
[02:29] <Gekitsuu> superman: They are for me
[02:30] <Andrew67> SpacePope: there's a wiki entry about that
[02:30] <bonko> ArrenLex: I have 2 hard drives hda and sda, my /boot is 100M sda1
[02:30] <JimyLinux> So, I think Ubuntu...(It provide...onestop install?)
[02:30] <|freaky|> The question that i have with KVirc is the channel list, at the bottom, clicked on it orientation i clicked flat and now its gone and i cant figure how to get it back
[02:30] <gallag> !upgrade > SpacePope
[02:30] <superman> Gekitsuu: Seem 2 be having troubles ... hope I didn't break it
[02:30] <Gekitsuu> briguyd: what isn't working?
[02:30] <Dekkard> has there been instances of X breaking for no apparent reason?
[02:30] <briguyd> Gekitsuu, "4955: tree connect failed: ERRDOS - ERRnosuchshare (You specified an invalid share name)
[02:30] <briguyd> SMB connection failed
[02:30] <briguyd> "
[02:30] <gallag> Dekkard: yes
[02:30] <bonko> ArrenLex: so i guess it should be (sda), will it end up in the sda1 part?
[02:30] <SpacePope> !upgrade
[02:30] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:30] <gallag> Dekkard: it was an upgrade issue
[02:31] <ArrenLex> bonko: if you chose to install grub to sda1, that means you installed grub to the boot sector of that PARTITION. That means, once that PARTITION is selected by the master boot loader, grub will load it.
[02:31] <Dekkard> ahahhh
[02:31] <Andrew67> SpacePope: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:31] <Dekkard> great
[02:31] <ArrenLex> bonko: you still need a master boot manager.
[02:31] <gallag> Dekkard:upgrade again and see
[02:31] <JimyLinux> For my old system, xubuntu is work well?
[02:31] <briguyd> Gekitsuu, using "sudo mount -t smbfs //demaio-desktop/Big_Music /media/music"
[02:31] <Gekitsuu> briguyd: if you do a smbclient -L localhost on the box that is sharing the drive do you see the share?
[02:31] <Dekkard> gallag:  i did..nuttin
[02:31] <briguyd> hold on
[02:31] <gallag> Dekkard: a newer one should be available
[02:31] <Dekkard> only upgrade for dapper was thunderbird
[02:31] <gallag> Dekkard: then it's probably somewhat normal
[02:31] <Dekkard> lol
[02:31] <Dekkard> except i have no x
[02:32] <saif> hello, i was doing un upgrade, my computer crashed and grub opens bash, and i can't boot! currently using livecd to boot! vat should i do?
[02:32] <gallag> Dekkard: the break was earlier
[02:32] <Dekkard> i know.. i remember reaing about that.. but now mine just broke..
[02:32] <briguyd> Gekitsuu, yeah, its there
[02:32] <gallag> saif: do you know any terminal commands?
[02:32] <Dekkard> as i remember there was a workaround..
[02:32] <saif> i know some!
[02:32] <bonko> ArrenLex: thanks, the problem is I need a 100M /boot partition becuase of some bios issues
[02:32] <jmitchj>  I have installed Unbuntu on an External Hard drive, sometimes my Internal Hard drive disappears from the list of devices in Computer - File Browser...any ideas why?
[02:33] <gallag> saif: try this one: gdm || kdm
[02:33] <Gekitsuu> briguyd: hmm did you check the logs in /var/log/samba?
[02:33] <briguyd> on which machine?
[02:33] <SpacePope> how do i check what version of ubuntu i have right now?
[02:33] <Gekitsuu> briguyd:  the server
[02:33] <saif> gallag, interresting, we are trying to fix the grub menu though right?
[02:33] <gallag> saif: no
[02:33] <Dekkard> ok..
[02:33] <gallag> saif: I was trying to see what went wrong
[02:33] <Dekkard>  it cant find the cursor
[02:34] <briguyd> Gekitsuu, hold on
[02:34] <Dekkard> prolly because i installed artwiz cursor
[02:34] <gallag> saif: but I have to go.. sorry,
[02:34] <saif> gallag, gdm is already running,
[02:34] <Dekkard> so...
[02:34] <juanjo> hi: what would i need to do in order to get my external microphone working with ubuntu in a macbook?
[02:34] <saif> gallag! :) ok thanx for the try!
[02:34] <ladydoor> SpacePope: cat /etc/lsb-release
[02:34] <SpacePope> nvm found it
[02:34] <SpacePope> ty though
[02:34] <meal3837> which ver?
[02:34] <liogets> hi every time i try to play a file with mplayer it displays me an arror saying "alsa-control: unable to find simple control 'PCM',0" how can i fix this?
[02:34] <SpudDogg> Has anyone here ever used backtrack?
[02:35] <Gekitsuu> SpudDogg: I have, it's a pretty cool live CD but I was a huge fan of Whax and Whoppix too. backtrack is better
[02:35] <Dekkard> so gallag... i think i need to edit x11 config
[02:35] <meal3837> spacepope: i was checking around for info on linux and the  WG111T . . . doesn't look promising
[02:36] <meal3837> !upgrade
[02:36] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:36] <SpudDogg> Gekitsuu:  My concern is that I'll need to update drivers, etc for my wireless devices.  How is that done when just running on a livedisc?  Maybe it has everything you need for the most common devices? Atheros, Ralink, etc?
[02:36] <saif> no hints, any1?? it's as if my grub has been erased! it's no even showing the first menu, and throws me into a bash command! where i can't do anything! need to boot!
[02:37] <SpudDogg> meal3837, if all you want to do is access a network and the internet, just use ndiswrapper
[02:37] <Gekitsuu> SpudDogg: actuall backtrack is based of Slax which has a really easy way of adding files to the livecd check out the slax website for how to add custom modules
[02:37] <bsmntbombdood> Why is gateway/tor/ banned in here?
[02:37] <LjL> bsmntbombdood: too much abuse coming from it
[02:37] <SpudDogg> Gekitsuu, well, I'm just going to burn the disc and get a feel for it.  If I like the way things work, I'll work on using it.
[02:38] <SpacePope> eh?
[02:38] <Gekitsuu> SpudDogg: not a bad idea, I'm using it for a USB/QEMU stick computer when I travel to Japan
[02:38] <SpacePope> not promising?
[02:38] <SpudDogg> Gekitsuu:  Also, is there a way to install the distro?  Maybe on another partition?
[02:38] <Gekitsuu> SpudDogg: I'm not sure I don't think I ever tried it
[02:39] <meal3837> yeah, i saw a lot of forums where people installed ndiswrapper, and then the windows drivers . . . which is supposed to work
[02:39] <Denstark> Hi there. I have a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Sound card, and I want to turn down the base that my speakers put out. I tried changing it in alsamixer but nothing happens. Can anyone take a stab at helping me? =)
[02:39] <SpudDogg> Gekitsuu, yea, I've never tried dual-booting linux and linux, lol
[02:39] <Gekitsuu> :)
[02:39] <meal3837> and none of them were succesfull
[02:39] <Zemyla> I have Ubuntu working in VMWare. :D
[02:39] <Gekitsuu> afk for a minute
[02:39] <Zemyla> It's kind of slow, though. :{
[02:39] <SpudDogg> Gekitsuu, I guess that your be kinda dumb to do...I would imagine most things I can do in backtrack can be done in Ubuntu...Maybe just a little easier?
[02:40] <zoredache> yes, you can dual boot multiple versions of Linux
[02:40] <LjL> Zemyla: well, VMWare is quite fast, but surely a native install would be faster
[02:40] <SpudDogg> Gekitsuu, sorry i meant to say that would be kinda dumb...
[02:40] <LjL> Zemyla: be sure to specify at least 256MB of "virtual" RAM in VMWare
[02:40] <Zemyla> Though... maybe it's slow because I have the virtual hard drive compressed. :D
[02:40] <LjL> Zemyla: ubuntu gets quite sluggish with less than that
[02:40] <SpacePope> i thought i saw one on the ubuntu forums
[02:40] <Gekitsuu> actually backtrack includes some security tools that I don't think have been packaged for ubuntu yet so some things are MUCH easier in backtrack
[02:40] <SpacePope> but i didn't under stand it
[02:40] <SpacePope> so i came here
[02:41] <LjL> Zemyla: well, never used that feature
[02:41] <SpacePope> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=135604
[02:41] <liogets> hi every time i try to play a file with mplayer it displays me an arror saying "alsa-control: unable to find simple control 'PCM',0" how can i fix this?
[02:41] <SpudDogg> meal3837, open up synaptec, search for ndiswrapper, and install the GUI interface...it is unbelievably easy.  if you have problems after that, you might have the wrong driver
[02:42] <Zemyla> I'm just using the standard NTFS compression to compress it.
[02:42] <LjL> Zemyla: i see, well even then, haven't tried it. i suppose it *could* interact badly, though
[02:42] <SpudDogg> Hey, when someone says "Windows" around here, does anyone else sorta cringe?  I know I do.
[02:42] <Dr_willis> "MS-Bob"
[02:42] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:42] <LjL> SpudDogg: Windows
[02:42] <SpudDogg> ahhh
[02:42] <SpudDogg> lol
[02:42] <Dr_willis> 'Clippy'
[02:43] <zoredache> I cringe when someone says disk compression... Disk compression is for people that hate their data
[02:43] <rilliam> anybody have some hints on how to get twinview working on my nvidia gs 7600?
[02:44] <LjL> SpudDogg: Windows Win32 Office Word PowerPoint SmartDrive MS-DOS Bad command or file name Retry Ignore Fail system.ini win.ini registry Program Manager Internet Explorer Outlook Express
[02:44] <Polym0rph> woah
[02:44] <Polym0rph> lot of ppl here ;D
[02:44] <Dr_willis> rilliam,  i followed some guides i foung on the gentoo wiki to get mine going. theres also a tool to configure twinview under ubuntu. But backup your xorg.conf first
[02:44] <caseyomah> Okay, I had amaroK installed on Ubuntu with package kubuntu-desktop installed, and now with my install of Kubuntu from CD it doesn't have all the features. Why? How do I get back the "Repeat album", "Random album" and ID3 multi-tab dialog?
[02:44] <SpudDogg> LjL, lol.  Thanks man, I needed something terrible to get my mind off that speeding ticket today
[02:44] <Gekitsuu> ls
[02:44] <meal3837> spacepope: it looks like it is possible to make it work . . . but it involves install gnu development tools, downloading source code, compiling the source code . . . it's a mess
[02:45] <Gekitsuu> oops
[02:45] <Zemyla> I had to install flex and bison from the Internet. ;_;
[02:45] <briguyd> Gekitsuu, im not seeing anything
[02:45] <LjL> SpudDogg: well, if you use Windows, you'll never get a cyber-speeding-ticket, that's for sure. just make sure you don't occupy a "60km/h minimum" lane...
[02:45] <Gekitsuu> briguyd: are you sure you have the right permissions setup?
[02:45] <Dr_willis> nvidia-xconfig -twinview
[02:45] <briguyd> where?
[02:46] <drminime> Hey, I need a driver for an ATI Radeon R100 7200 card, x server won't start.  any suggestions?
[02:46] <meal3837> spacepope: i have not yet successfully built a program from source, so if it wer me, i would just buy a pcmcia adapter
[02:46] <Gekitsuu> briguyd: In smb.conf you need to have permissions set in the share statement
[02:47] <LjL> SpudDogg: on the other hand, that now reminds me of the ticket i got for forgetting to check my ticket on the bus... ouch. that still hurts.
[02:47] <simtower> hello, how do i get hibernate to work on ubuntu?
[02:47] <LjL> simtower: pray, mostly
[02:48] <simtower> is there an error log or something i can check?
[02:48] <SpudDogg> LjL, do you use Windows?
[02:48] <briguyd> Gekitsuu, the drive says that only owner can do anything, but i cant change that for some reason
[02:48] <LjL> simtower: try tinkering with /etc/defaults/acpi-support
[02:48] <Gekitsuu> briguyd: on the server it says that?
[02:49] <briguyd> on the server, the mounted drive is unable to change permissions
[02:49] <LjL> SpudDogg: not too often, but admittedly i do have it installed. (and it's the only system installed on the other 2 machines in the house, but that's not my fault)
[02:49] <Gekitsuu> briguyd: how is it mounted? manually or via fstab?
[02:49] <briguyd> i plugged it in and it mounted it
[02:49] <SpudDogg> LjL, I'll admit it too.  Sometimes I gotta play Flight Simulator, you know?
[02:50] <LjL> SpudDogg: ever gave FlightGear a try?
[02:50] <drminime> Hey again, I need a driver for an ATI Radeon R100 7200 card, x server won't start.  any suggestions?
[02:50] <SpudDogg> LjL, no, and I dont think my lappy will run it.  I'm sure my desktop comp will, but that has 64bit ubuntu on it
[02:51] <LjL> SpudDogg: shouldn't matter, flightgear is open source and comes with Ubuntu binary packages in the repos...
[02:51] <Gekitsuu> briguyd: what are the perms where it's mounted? who's the owner and who's the group?
[02:51] <SpudDogg> LjL:  Is that comparable to MSFS?
[02:51] <Sir_Brizz> drminime, didn't the default driver work?
[02:52] <PPAAUULL> Does anyone know of a Graphing Calculator for Ubuntu?
[02:52] <briguyd> Gekitsuu, oh, its mounted in /media, lemme check permissions, but I havent changed anything there
[02:52] <LjL> SpudDogg: well, i'm not a FS expert, but it does attempt to be realistic (even too much for my liking... i think MS FS tries to make it a little simpler. for example, in FlightGear the standard Cessna plane starts crazily turning left as soon as you fire the engine -- and that's intended behavior)
[02:52] <briguyd> Gekitsuu, should i try mounting it somewhere else?
[02:52] <Gekitsuu>  I'm taking a look at how mine is setup
[02:52] <briguyd> ok
[02:52] <LjL> SpudDogg: a bad point is the "artificial intelligence" ATC, in that there is none (or almost).
[02:53] <caseyomah> What is the difference between fstab and mtab?
[02:53] <superkirbyartist> Dialup issues with 6.06 LTS.
[02:53] <SpudDogg> LjL, do you know if FlightGear has realism settings?  Automatic, real-time weather updates, etc?
[02:53] <drminime> no, default driver isn't working
[02:53] <t3nxt> how can i mount an .iso file in ubuntu??
[02:53] <bruenig> !iso
[02:53] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[02:54] <Dekkard> any Xorg ninjas?
[02:54] <LjL> SpudDogg: it's got real time weather updates, yes, and a few realism-related settings. you can also download the world in a relatively detailed format, which includes SRTM altitude points and land use, as well as (obviously) airports and navigation aids
[02:54] <juanjo> hi: what would i need to do in order to get my external microphone (using the line-in) working with ubuntu in a macbook?
[02:54] <superkirbyartist> Modem works but does not authenticate.  Makes noise, stops, dials again, makes noise, stop...
[02:54] <rilliam> :)
[02:54] <Dekkard> i get this fatal error could not load cursor font cursor
[02:54] <LjL> SpudDogg: the 3D clouds are less than satisfying though ;)
[02:54] <bruenig> !xconfig
[02:54] <ubotu> xconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:55] <SpudDogg> LjL, well definately sounds like I should check it out.  But anyway, I gotta take off for now, I'm gonna try my backtrack livedisc
[02:55] <Dr_willis> superkirbyartist,  last i saw somthing like that ages ago.. the ppp password/encryption was wrong.
[02:55] <Dr_willis> superkirbyartist,  but that was years ago
[02:55] <superkirbyartist> Help please?  What to do?
[02:55] <LjL> SpudDogg: ok, well, just visit the site or even just "sudo aptitude install flightgear", it's all that's needed to install it on ubuntu
[02:55] <mikeo1> how do i get ubuntu to detect my keyboard correctly?
[02:55] <SpudDogg> LjL, thanks man.  ttyl
[02:55] <superkirbyartist> When I move dialup does not work.  I move quite often.
[02:55] <LjL> SpudDogg: (though of course that does *not* get you the detailed world data, which you'd have to download separately)
[02:55] <Gekitsuu> I have the permissions on my usb drive set so that my user is group and owner
[02:55] <levander> Has anyone tried copying the Dapper Live CD / Install CD onto a USB Flash Drive?
[02:56] <Gekitsuu> of all files
[02:56] <bruenig> mikeo1, select it in System>Preferences>Keyboard
[02:56] <mikeo1> none are listed
[02:56] <flamesrock> hmm this isn't really ubuntu related, but does anyone know anything about cellphones?
[02:56] <briguyd> Gekitsuu, where is it mounted
[02:56] <briguyd> ?
[02:56] <LjL> ... what kind of question is that?
[02:56] <flamesrock> lol
[02:56] <superkirbyartist> When no high speed is available...  I meed to use dialup.
[02:56] <briguyd> flamesrock, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:56] <bruenig> mikeo1, you could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select it when you get to the keyboard part
[02:56] <Gekitsuu> the actual directory where it's mounted is root:root but everything under is user:user
[02:56] <flamesrock> ahh thanks briguyd
[02:56] <Dr_willis> flamesrock,  they are over priced and they always seem to promise better stuff then they deliver. :P
[02:57] <flamesrock> all my friends have one
[02:57] <Gekitsuu> and I'ts shared at the root
[02:57] <briguyd> Gekitsuu, so how can i change my permissions on the drive if its not letting me?
[02:57] <Oni-Dracula> desu!
[02:58] <asdf> i just upgraded to edgy and when i boot i see this ugly boot logo
[02:58] <superkirbyartist> I AM SERIOUS!  Please help me.
[02:58] <asdf> what's the deal with that
[02:58] <bruenig> !patience
[02:58] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:58] <mikeo1> dont want to reconfigure x and have  it mess up my dual monitors
[02:58] <asdf> !edgy
[02:58] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:58] <edju> Can't find this on the ubuntu site . . . I see that an install of ubuntu does not provide the kernel source.  Can I compile a vanilla kernel from kernel.org, or do I need some ubuntu pathches or other?
[02:58] <mikeo1> is there a way to get it to work just by editing the xorg.conf?
[02:58] <briguyd> asdf, try #ubuntu+1
[02:58] <Gekitsuu> if you do sudo chown user:user it won't let you?
[02:58] <asdf> briguyd: thanks
[02:59] <ithicine> asdf: the final boot logo hasn't been included yet.  What you see is a placeholder demonstrating and testing some new bootsplash capabilities
[02:59] <briguyd> Gekitsuu, type it in just like that?
[02:59] <Gekitsuu> try it on a single file first
[02:59] <totall_6_7> does anyone here use kvirc i am stuck and there is no help in the kvirc room, The rooms list that shows what rooms you are in (down at the bottom) you can select orientation and in orientation you can select flat. Question: how to get the rooms list back once you select flat
[02:59] <t3nxt> i got a problem mounting .iso files... look what i get in terminal:
[02:59] <t3nxt> sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 1.ISO /cdrom
[02:59] <t3nxt> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop4,
[02:59] <t3nxt>        missing codepage or other error
[02:59] <t3nxt>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[02:59] <t3nxt>        dmesg | tail  or so
[02:59] <Gekitsuu> so sudo chown username:username test.file
[02:59] <bruenig> mikeo1, I am sure there is, you could edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:00] <mikeo1> how do i get it to detect a generic logitech keyboard?
[03:00] <flamesro1k> WTF seveas? I called you a jerk and you ban me?
[03:01] <Jack_Sparrow> That is how it works
[03:01] <ithicine> t3nxt: are you sure your iso is good?  Sounds like it's corrupt or just isn't iso9660
[03:01] <Dekkard> problem is the cursor..
[03:01] <BlueEagle> mikeo1: Your keyboard isn't detected?
[03:01] <mikeo1> nope
[03:01] <mikeo1> its a standard logitech
[03:01] <BlueEagle> mikeo1: Are you refering to the multimedia keys?
[03:01] <mikeo1> no
[03:01] <mikeo1> i am referring to the super key
[03:01] <mikeo1> or the windows key
[03:01] <Dekkard> just went through reconfigure..get the same error
[03:02] <mikeo1> because it isnt detected the zoom feature in xgl doesnt work
[03:02] <Dekkard> and i am clueless with vi or vim
[03:02] <BlueEagle> mikeo1: And how is it not detected?
[03:02] <superkirbyartist> I will need help with my dialup.
[03:02] <mikeo1> extra multimedia keys dont work either
[03:02] <bruenig> !repeat > superkirbyartist
[03:02] <Jack_Sparrow> mikeo1: Try in the xgl room
[03:02] <mikeo1> keyboard preferences - layouts is us
[03:02] <mikeo1> and layout options is blank
[03:02] <mikeo1> keyboard model: unknown
[03:02] <superkirbyartist> !patience >superkirbyartist
[03:02] <BlueEagle> mikeo1: Did you have a look-see on the keyboard shortcuts application in the settings menu?
[03:03] <TheReconHunter> Hey, I have a bad problem. I just re-installed windows, and my GRUB disappeared. So, i used the console in the live cd to get grub back, but now, when GRUB starts, and i choose ubuntu, I get an error message reading ERROR 17: Cannot mount Partition. Any idea waht is wrong?
[03:03] <jazzrocker> Dekkard, vimtutor
[03:03] <mikeo1> dunno what that is
[03:03] <mikeo1> so no
[03:03] <jazzrocker> Dekkard, vi and vim are installed on nearly all *nixes by default. so they're always good to know.
[03:03] <BlueEagle> thereconhunter: You probably specified the wrong root device.
[03:03] <jazzrocker> Dekkard, plus vim et al is badass and leet and hardcore coders know that vim is teh roxor
[03:04] <BlueEagle> mikeo1: Then I suggest you have a browse trough the settings section of the menu.
[03:04] <mikeo1> whats settings section
[03:04] <TheReconHunter> I dont think so..... because I boot to (hd0,2)
[03:04] <livingtm> Can someone recommend a good package for ripping data cd's to iso?
[03:04] <TheReconHunter> my second partition on my only hard drive
[03:04] <BlueEagle> mikeo1: There should be an entry for keyboard shortcuts where you can define a function to the super and (most) multimedia keys.
[03:04] <writingdesk> that is hd0,1
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> hd0,1
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> They start at 0
[03:05] <TheReconHunter> hmm, when i type din find /boot/grub/stage1
[03:05] <Buglouse> Does anyone know of the Windows Internet Media Streamer called Sam3 Media Broadcaster?  I'm looking iether to install that on my Ubuntu Drapper Drake OS or an alternative to that.
[03:05] <drminime> hey, i am having a rough time - i'm using "ls -R | grep <name>" to find a file, but i can't tell where it is in the hierarchy
[03:05] <BlueEagle> thereconhunter: That would be /dev/[h|s] da3, right?
[03:05] <TheReconHunter> thats what i got
[03:05] <liogets> every time i try to play a file with mplayer it displays me an arror saying "alsa-control: unable to find simple control 'PCM',0" how can i fix this?
[03:05] <drminime> anyone know a useful ls switch to help find a file?
[03:05] <Gekitsuu> briguyd: I'm sorry but I need to head to bed another thing to check is to try and sudo the mount on the client side and see if that works
[03:05] <Buglouse> grep
[03:05] <TheReconHunter> BlueEagle: How can i double check
[03:05] <kwtm> Help!  If adept says "You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.", how do I tell adept that no other such process is running?  I already deleted /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[03:05] <mister_roboto> drminime: find <dir> -name <filename>
[03:05] <Buglouse> drminime: grep
[03:06] <drminime> thanks roboto
[03:06] <Buglouse> or that
[03:06] <BlueEagle> thereconhunter: You can list all partitions with: sudo fdisk -l
[03:06] <TheReconHunter> Actually, ill check in Gparted
[03:06] <mikeo1> no super key is listed ther
[03:06] <Flannel> kwtm: you don't, it'll automatically know that, restart adept making sure everything else is closed
[03:06] <BlueEagle> thereconhunter: Also you can look at /etc/fstab on the mounted system.
[03:06] <kwtm> Flannel: Okay, I will try again.
[03:06] <BlueEagle> thereconhunter: or you could simply remember which device is your root partition.
[03:06] <Buglouse> has anyone used ntfs-3g?
[03:06] <mikeo1> random shit like this is why i can never leave windows: stuff just works there
[03:06] <TheReconHunter> My Ext3 partition is listed as hda3
[03:06] <briguyd> Gekitsuu, thanks for the help!!
[03:07] <starleaf> Hi all. New here, just found Ubuntu on the web and tought why not... But now I have seen that you can have you desktop as a "cube" and rotate the workspaces... Uhm... anyone knows where I should start?
[03:07] <BlueEagle> mikeo1: Well there is an entry for show menu, isn't it?
[03:07] <Flannel> starleaf: #ubuntu-xgl
[03:07] <BlueEagle> mikeo1: ..and you can configure the super key to do that action, can't you?
[03:07] <starleaf> thanks
[03:07] <Gekitsuu> briguyd:  sorry I didn't help you get it worked out, good luck :)
[03:07] <briguyd> thanks
[03:07] <mikeo1> i want it for use in xgl
[03:07] <kwtm> Flannel: I just tried it again, twice.  Maybe I should run "apt-get -f install" first?
[03:07] <lupine_85> hehe
[03:07] <Buglouse> when using NTFS-3G: I'm  trying to mount a usb external hd and a internal IDE hd... but an error keeps comming up that the NTFS journal is unclean.
[03:08] <Flannel> kwtm: are you using kdesu to run it?
[03:08] <Buglouse> and i tried using ntfsfix
[03:08] <BlueEagle> briguyd: I didn't get the start of the problem. Is the share on a linux box?
[03:08] <lupine_85> Buglouse: that usually happens when the ntfs fs is partly-borked
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Buglouse: Sounds like you need to go into windows and clean it up from there.
[03:08] <Red-Sox> Hi, my eth1 isn't really working... :P
[03:08] <Red-Sox> That's all I can say...
[03:08] <Red-Sox> That's wireless BTW
[03:08] <briguyd> BlueEagle, im trying to share an external USB hard drive from one ubuntu box to all the computers in the house, but starting with an xubuntu box
[03:08] <TheReconHunter> @ BlueEagle/anyone else- My Ext3 partition is listed as hda3
[03:09] <BlueEagle> briguyd: Have you checked the permissions of the mountpoint? Ie. can the user attempting to mount it read and execute the directory in question?
[03:09] <Buglouse> but the ntfsfix message comesup as "setting flags on partion" - Failed
[03:09] <kwtm> Flannel: Yes, I am (it automatically does it).  I think I found the problem: I had tried "apt-get -f install" without "sudo".  This time I used "sudo apt-get -f install", and it told me to run "sudo dpkg --configure -a", so I'm doing that.  It seems to be resuming where it left off installing before it crashed.
[03:09] <briguyd> BlueEagle, that may be the problem, im having trouble changing the permissions on the drive, its not letting me do it
[03:09] <BlueEagle> briguyd: You might want to mount it on a mountpoint that is owned by root:samba and make a samba group in which you add the users you want to access samba shares. Be sure that the mountpoint is group-writable.
[03:09] <TheReconHunter> Any idea as to where to proceed now?
[03:09] <Buglouse> Jack_Sparrow: I thought that i may have to boot the hd in a windows OS and like... Reboot or shudown... is that what i have to do, or is there something more to it?
[03:10] <BlueEagle> briguyd: Which filesystem is it on the drive?
[03:10] <SpacePope> no!!!
[03:10] <TheReconHunter> when i find
[03:10] <briguyd> im assuming FAT32
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> I was reading the ntfs-3g site and they say specifically what needs to be done
[03:10] <briguyd> because it works on both mac and linux
[03:10] <BlueEagle> briguyd: Then you'll need to mount it with -o uid=root,gid=samba (if you take my advice and use a samba group)
[03:10] <SpacePope> it gives me an error message when i try to upgrade to dapper :|
[03:10] <TheReconHunter> when i find /boot/grub/stage 1
[03:10] <TheReconHunter> it tells me
[03:10] <TheReconHunter> (hd0,2)
[03:11] <TheReconHunter> so then i do root (hd0,2)
[03:11] <briguyd> BlueEagle, i gotta do some other stuff first, ill get back to this problem in about an hour
[03:11] <TheReconHunter> correct?
[03:11] <BlueEagle> briguyd: Alternately you can specify a fmask and a dmask iirc. Check the mount manual pages.
[03:11] <geocritter> Can anyone tell me how Ubuntu sets up the TI-PCIxx21 cardbus stuff?  It's the only distro that sees and sets up the support, and I would LOVE to figure out how it dows it
[03:11] <BlueEagle> briguyd: It should list options for vfat iirc.
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> TheReconHunter: hda3 should be hd0,2 yes
[03:11] <trianglemanwins> hello?
[03:12] <Buglouse> Jack_Sparrow: do you have that link by anychance.. i only found Ubuntus help page for that
[03:12] <TheReconHunter> Jack_Sparrow: if ive selected this as my root, and setup grub on my whole hard drive, why do i still get the message that my partition cant be mounted
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> One sec, I'll look
[03:12] <Buglouse> Jack_Sparrow: nm .. found it
[03:12] <Berto> hi - longtime linux user, first time ubuntu user -- I am trying to compile new ndiswrapper drivers (they are OLD in the repository), and I get this error:  Can't find kernel build files in /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build ... i DO have the kernel-headers package installed.  Any ideas?
[03:13] <trianglemanwins> i'm a n00b to linux and i'm working on wine.  The .wine folder won't show up in the gui but when i find it through terminal i can find it.  I need to move some files into that folder and i don't know how to in terminal
[03:13] <TheReconHunter> any ideas whats wrong?
[03:13] <Berto2>  I am trying to compile new ndiswrapper drivers (they are OLD in the repository), and I get this error:  Can't find kernel build files in /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build ... i DO have the kernel-headers package installed.  Any ideas?
[03:13] <krazykit> trianglemanwins: mv
[03:13] <BlueEagle> berto: /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build should be a symlink to the kernel source tree iirc. Did you check !wireless ?
[03:13] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell berto about wireless
[03:13] <krazykit> trianglemanwins: mv whateverfile .wine/location
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009  and yes, just going into windows should do it but if not then there is more help there.
[03:13] <TheReconHunter> I strongly believe that it may be my menu.list
[03:13] <Berto2> BlueEagle, haha ok thanks you busted me doubling up
[03:14] <BlueEagle> berto: Ie. you might need the source tree of your kernel and when you install it with apt it simply gets a compressed file. You will also need to unzip that file.
[03:14] <BlueEagle> berto: oh.. I didn't spot the 2. I just typed ber<TAB> :p
[03:14] <Berto> BlueEagle, ok i need to make that symbolic link tho
[03:15] <BlueEagle> berto: ln -s <target> <link-name>
[03:15] <Berto> BlueEagle, i know :)  i've used linux for 8 years.... but new to ubuntu and not a SUPER tech with it
[03:15] <OmniD> Would anyone have any clue as to why vmware refuses to start?
[03:15] <BlueEagle> berto: Kk. :)
[03:15] <Dr_willis> OmniD,  run it from a terminal and see if any error messages show up?
[03:15] <Dr_willis> OmniD,  you are not using edgy are you?
[03:15] <BlueEagle> omnid: In most cases it's because it's not configured right.
[03:15] <briguyd> BlueEagle, the owner of the ubs drive is the user, the group is the user, the permissions still seem to be set to 700
[03:16] <UKMatt> Has anyone ever heard of a screensaver killing X?
[03:16] <OmniD> Dr_willis, not using Edgy
[03:16] <OmniD> BlueEagle, it's run before
[03:16] <Buglouse> can you use wine to do a chkdisk?
[03:16] <OmniD> suddenly does not run anymore
[03:16] <Dekkard> wll this as good a time as any to learn vim... (laff)
[03:16] <BlueEagle> omnid: upgraded?
[03:16] <OmniD> Nope
[03:16] <briguyd> im not getting an error anymore when i try to mount it on the other machine, but it doesnt list any files under the mountpoint
[03:16] <BlueEagle> briguyd: then you might want to specify masks for the mount point.
[03:16] <Steil> do you think my microsoft mouse is incompatible with my sun mousepad and ubuntu? it makes a loud noise when I use it
[03:16] <Dekkard> is vi the same as vim..basically?
[03:17] <Berto> BlueEagle, awesome, thanks..  more compile errors but il'll plow those down myself
[03:17] <briguyd> BlueEagle, what is that and how do i do it?
[03:17] <Dr_willis> sun mousepad?
[03:17] <BlueEagle> briguyd: But if the owner is the same user attempting to mount the samba share then I really don't know. :/
[03:18] <Steil> Dr_willis: Sun microsystems
[03:18] <BlueEagle> briguyd: man mount  <= that will give you the manual page for mount. It will list a section of availible options for the filesystem. I think the options you want is fmask and dmask. Also you might specify masks in the samba deamon configuration file.
[03:18] <Steil> "The network is the computer tm"
[03:18] <Halpo> why can't I edit the "Places" menu
[03:18] <geocritter> Steil: you mean one of the old silver mousepads
[03:18] <Steil> no no no
[03:18] <ziro01> don't know
[03:18] <OmniD> BlueEagle, seems you are right
[03:18] <BlueEagle> berto: Not sure if you need to link into a spesific directory in the kernel source tree.
[03:18] <Steil> it's from sunmicrosystems, sun.com
[03:18] <caseyomah> BlueEagle: umask is dmask+fmask
[03:18] <geocritter> Oh
[03:18] <briguyd> BlueEagle, scratch that, im still getting the same errors: "5044: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)"
[03:18] <OmniD> it is not configured... however, why doesn't it do that automatically?
[03:18] <Dr_willis> Steil,  and whats so special about this mousepad that you think it may be affecting the system?
[03:19] <BlueEagle> berto: If you've got another distro then you might check where the link is pointing.
[03:19] <Steil> no man it just makes crazy noises
[03:19] <Steil> and a grinding noise
[03:19] <Berto> BlueEagle, no i think it's good... i didnt' even have gcc installed! lol.... now i'm missing something like modpost:  /bin/sh: scripts/mod/modpost: No such file or directory
[03:19] <briguyd> BlueEagle, do i do this on the client or the server machine?
[03:19] <BlueEagle> briguyd: On the server as that is where the mountpoint of the usb drive is.
[03:19] <geocritter> Steil: is it a ball mouse or an optical (i.e., is the sound coming from the mouse or the speakers?)
[03:19] <jazzrocker> Dekkard, vi and vim are quite similar though there are enough differences to keep the two versions around. vi is the original and vim = Vi IMproved
[03:19] <BlueEagle> berto: build-essential is a nice package if you want to compile stuff
[03:20] <Steil> optical
[03:20] <dez_> whois
[03:20] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell berto about build-essential
[03:20] <nexsan> hie everyone
[03:20] <Steil> and the sound is coming from the mouse
[03:20] <jazzrocker> Dekkard, vi is older and some hackers who learned vi prefer the way it works
[03:20] <Steil> when it rubs against the keyboard
[03:20] <Steil> or the mouspad
[03:20] <Steil> but it goes away when im in windows
[03:20] <nexsan> can someone help me with a problem i'm having installing ubuntu?
[03:20] <nexsan> <- linux newb
[03:20] <Berto> BlueEagle, awesome thanks, i need to learn all these good package names
[03:20] <jazzrocker> Dekkard, i personally can't stand vi but much prefer gvim
[03:20] <BlueEagle> berto: In time you will. ;)
[03:20] <BlueEagle> !factoids
[03:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about factoids - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:21] <BlueEagle> berto: http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi contains loads of useful links.
[03:21] <Halpo> why are you unable to edit the "Places" menu, but the others are editable
[03:21] <nexsan> anyone else experiencing a freeze when ubuntu is going through its checklist at boot?
[03:21] <caseyomah> For my information how do I recover (properly) from X config files in my user directory keeping me from logging in?
[03:21] <geocritter> Steil: now THATs an interesting problem...
[03:22] <BlueEagle> nexsan: If you're freezing you might concider turning up the heat... Also it would be helpful if you could tell us where it freezes up and if it's a complete freeze or just a stall.
[03:22] <hype> hi
[03:22] <Berto> good stuff BlueEagle....
[03:22] <kwtm> nexsan: At what part of the checklist does yours freeze?
[03:22] <Berto> so has anyone here setup bcm43xx wireless driver by any chance?
[03:22] <briguyd> Berto, i have
[03:23] <nexsan> it's a complete freeze at "Parport0: PC style at 0x378...." i disabled the paralel port still does it, only that line doesn't show anymore
[03:23] <Geoffrey2> I'm trying to figure out how to scan a multi-page document and convert it into a single PDF file...I'm looking at xsane, but it looks like that would make each page a seperate image
[03:23] <nexsan> under the [PCI]  list
[03:23] <Berto> briguyd, with 43xx or with ndiswrapper?
[03:23] <briguyd> ndiswrapper
[03:23] <krazykit> Berto: broken in dapper, in my experience.  ndiswrapper worked significantly better
[03:23] <briguyd> ive had bad luck with 43xx
[03:23] <nexsan> it doesn't freeze when it is booting like in most cases, it freezes half way down the list....
[03:23] <jmartini> has anyone had issues with their box freezing since the most recent kernel or xorg update?
[03:23] <kwtm> nexsan: It sounds like something is freezing at the part after Parport0, but it doesn't have a chance to display a message yet.  I don't recall what comes after that part.
[03:23] <Berto> briguyd, yeah, i'm working with ndiswrapper too..  the ubuntu help page about obtaining firmware and such with bcm43xx-fwcutter totally lost me
[03:23] <hype> i need an advice: i plan to buy a new hard drive: will it be "recognized" straght away or will i have to modify /etc/fstab ?
[03:23] <writingdesk> Trying to compile my own kernel but need to change option CONFIG_4KSTACKS=y  to no, can I do this from the command line with make?
[03:24] <nexsan> yea i was looking for a list to see what it is
[03:24] <nexsan> so i can disable it in the bios
[03:24] <Berto> krazykit, briguyd ok thanks... i'll keep going after ndiswrapper
[03:24] <nexsan> but i don't know what to search for...
[03:24] <tahorg> hype: internal or external ?
[03:24] <BlueEagle> nexsan: if you try the recovery mode you should get a text based console and it might yeld more useful information.
[03:24] <hype> internal
[03:24] <briguyd> Berto, need any help?
[03:24] <kwtm> nexsan: Maybe I can boot up my other Ubuntu box and see what appears...  BlueEagle also has a good idea.
[03:24] <nexsan> how do i pull up recovery?
[03:24] <nexsan> ok
[03:24] <nexsan> thanks
[03:24] <Boson__> http://imaclanni.blogspot.com/blog/trolls.jpg
[03:25] <BlueEagle> hype: For any new partitions you'll need to add entries into /etc/fstab to have them automatically mounted to spesific mount points.
[03:25] <briguyd> Berto,  make sure you blacklist and rmmod the bcm43xx driver
[03:25] <tahorg> hype: you will have to create the partitions and to edit fstab
[03:25] <hype> what should i do: plug it in, fdisk -l and add to fstab?
[03:25] <BlueEagle> nexsan: THere should be an entry in the grub boot menu.
[03:25] <meheren> it says that it is unable to lock the suorce directory what can i do to fix that?
[03:25] <tahorg> hype: yes, or use the graphical interface
[03:25] <Berto> briguyd, well compiling ndiswrapper i'm having problems with modpost:  /bin/sh: scripts/mod/modpost: No such file or directory
[03:25] <nexsan> how do i access it?
[03:25] <linlin> whats the best player to play divx and xvid files with on ubuntu/kubuntu ?
[03:25] <Dr_willis> i like vlc
[03:25] <hype> and concerning formating
[03:25] <nexsan> i haven't installed the OS yet
[03:25] <Berto> briguyd, blacklist?  i've never done that, how do you blacklist a module?
[03:25] <krazykit> linlin: xine, vlc, mplayer
[03:25] <BlueEagle> hype: Well most new harddrives needs to be partitioned and formatted before you can actually use them.
[03:25] <hype> ok
[03:25] <krazykit> Berto: add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[03:26] <linlin> apt-get install vlc says it cant find a package
[03:26] <hype> how shoul i do thatN BlueEagle ?
[03:26] <linlin> i like vlc too
[03:26] <tahorg> hype: formating is easy
[03:26] <briguyd> Berto, no need to compile, just install ndiswrapper-utils from the repos
[03:26] <Dr_willis> !info vlc
[03:26] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[03:26] <Dr_willis> setup the right repos.
[03:26] <tahorg> hype: mke2fs /dev/hdxx
[03:26] <nexsan> vlc is the best
[03:26] <nexsan> i use it in windows
[03:26] <Berto> briguyd, ndiswrapper-utils is WAY old!  its like 10 versions out of date for me... what does apt-cache show that you have
[03:26] <hype> ok :] 
[03:26] <Dr_willis> vlc can use a few tweaks here and tehre.. but it does play well. :P
[03:26] <BlueEagle> hype: So you might want to install it into the machine. Boot up and then run fdisk (or your favorite disk partitioner) and chop it up into useful sizes. Then it's a matter of running mk*fs where * is the filesystem of choice.
[03:27] <tahorg> hype: mke2fs -j if you want ext3
[03:27] <linlin> what repos do i have to get
[03:27] <lupine_85> not mkfs.* then? ;)
[03:27] <tahorg> with journalin
[03:27] <tahorg> g
[03:27] <meheren> how can i unlock the source dir?
[03:27] <hype> lupine_85, <3
[03:27] <tahorg> lupine_85: it's possible too
[03:27] <BlueEagle> hype: After that you might want to make mount points in /media/ and add intries in /etc/fstab to mount the partitions to the coresponding mount points.
[03:27] <lupine_85> symlinks r0x0rz
[03:27] <hype> BlueEagle, i understand this part :p
[03:27] <briguyd> Berto, to blacklist, add "blacklist bcm43xx" to the end of /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[03:28] <tahorg> lupine_85: mkfs.* are not symlinks
[03:28] <hype> i feel a bit confused about partionning, just dont remeber how i did t  first; used to use partition magic on Xp
[03:28] <BlueEagle> hype: Good, good. One just can't be too thurough when explainign stuff in here. Impossible to know the level of competance of all users. :)
[03:28] <meheren> how can i unlock the source dir?
[03:28] <BlueEagle> !gparted
[03:28] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[03:28] <Arrick> am i here?
[03:28] <Berto> briguyd, yep, already did it.    Question -- should i have /usr/src/linux-source   or just /usr/src/linux-headers ?  I figure i need more than just headers!
[03:28] <nexsan> could the problem be the fact that i don't have a Linux partition set on my drive?
[03:28] <BlueEagle> hype: You might want to try gparted. :)
[03:28] <hype> ^^
[03:28] <nexsan> could that be what is causing the freeze?
[03:29] <lupine_85> Berto: what are you trying to do?
[03:29] <hype> cheers BlueEagle
[03:29] <BlueEagle> hype: np. :)
[03:29] <meheren> nvm i found the file...
[03:29] <SpacePope> can somebody help me please?
[03:29] <lupine_85> linux-source is for building your own kernel. linux-headers is for building kernel modules
[03:29] <Berto> lupine_85, i want to compile ndiswrapper from sourceforge.   i am having problems, /bin/sh: scripts/mod/modpost: No such file or directory
[03:29] <briguyd> Berto, the version of the utils in the repos for me is 1.8-0ubuntu2
[03:29] <lupine_85> linux-headers is for you
[03:29] <Berto> lupine_85, yep, i got that.  dang.
[03:29] <nexsan> this is a little frustrating.... having to deal with windows another day....
[03:30] <lupine_85> that error message is something to do with the source
[03:30] <tahorg> wow ugly.
[03:30] <linlin> i cant install xine or vlc
[03:30] <SpacePope> when I try to update from breezy badger to dapper drake, it gives me an error saying 'could not calculate the upgrade'
[03:30] <linlin> cant find package
[03:30] <Berto> briguyd, yeah, ndiswrapper 1.23 is out...  and the repos one didn't work for me
[03:30] <lupine_85> do you have all the deps installed?
[03:30] <bruenig> !vlc
[03:30] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[03:30] <bruenig> !info vlc
[03:30] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[03:30] <lupine_85> SpacePope: what it says on the tin. Something is broken
[03:30] <bruenig> linlin, do you have universe enabled?
[03:30] <tahorg> !ffmpeg
[03:30] <ubotu> ffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20050918-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 3833 kB, installed size 9808 kB
[03:30] <lupine_85> do you have ubuntu-desktop installed?
[03:30] <briguyd> Berto, how didnt they work?
[03:30] <SpacePope> yes
[03:30] <SpacePope> i do
[03:30] <briguyd> didnt install?
[03:30] <SpacePope> i'm pretty sure
[03:30] <BlueEagle> linlin: Did you modify your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[03:31] <linlin> i did
[03:31] <SpacePope> i don't see how it couldn't be installed
[03:31] <linlin> i un commented everythng in there
[03:31] <linlin> all the entries, not the comments of course
[03:31] <SpacePope> breezy badger is 100% upgraded
[03:31] <linlin> is thater another one i must adD?
[03:31] <BlueEagle> linlin: And even after enabling universe and doing sudo apt-get update you still can't find it?
[03:31] <hype> BlueEagle, i just found the disk manager in systel tab :p
[03:31] <lupine_85> if you remove any GUI application that came installed by default, ubuntu-desktop will go along with it
[03:31] <SpacePope> so i don't understand how it isn't working
[03:31] <lupine_85> and you have modified your sources.list appropriately?
[03:32] <BlueEagle> hype: That would be just as good, probably. :)
[03:32] <moco> hi everyone, I found a funny bug, not quite a bug, but need some confirm, can some1 here RightClick on Menu Bar and Edit Menus, then go to Office or Internet, there are 2 icons for Evolution, though 1 appears, I checked and found out that the other icon is old evo-2.2 but has not yet removed, if u check in Prefered Apps,the entry for 2.2 is also still there, isn't it a bug?
[03:32] <hype> thats what i used :D so i shoul boot and go format my disk there
[03:32] <SpacePope> first day of linux, and man am i disappointed
[03:32] <Berto> briguyd, when i'd modprobe ndiswrapper i'd get an error...   can't find that error now tho
[03:32] <hype> thx :)
[03:32] <lupine_85> well, you're only trying to use unstable beta software on your first day
[03:32] <lupine_85> what do you expect?
[03:32] <SpacePope> what beta software?
[03:32] <lupine_85> edgy...
[03:32] <hype> (btw BlueEagle gparted is installed by default? i thought it was a boot cd thing)
[03:32] <nexsan> Also, ubuntu live cd freezes when the progress bar black window shows....
[03:33] <lupine_85> I doubt you'd even think of installing the latest (broken) vista rc1
[03:33] <BlueEagle> moco: Not really as entries in the menu that are dead (ie point to non-existing files) are not listed when you actually use the menu and the old versions might not have made the menu entries correctly and thus they are set in the menu by other means.
[03:33] <SpacePope> vista?ehh?
[03:33] <krazykit> lupine_85: he said breezy to dapper...
[03:33] <BlueEagle> hype: I really do not know. I am a xubuntu man myself. :)
[03:33] <lupine_85> oh...
[03:33] <hype> ^^
[03:33] <lupine_85> sorry ;)
[03:33] <nexsan> anyone know what comes after Parport0 at boot?
[03:33] <SpacePope> lol
[03:33] <SpacePope> well
[03:33] <hype> ok thx anyway :)
[03:33] <SpacePope> any help then?
[03:33] <SpacePope> :)
[03:34] <lupine_85> erm
[03:34] <nexsan> need to disable it in the bios... feels like i'm speaking to myself...
[03:34] <lupine_85> not really sure
[03:34] <lupine_85> it should "just work"
[03:34] <writingdesk> nexsan:  did you do a checksum on the image and cd?   I had one freeze on me, and it was because the iso file was not burnt properly (even though it showed success)
[03:34] <moco> BlueEagle: I don't think so. if you remove file evo-2.2. desktop in /usr/share/applications, this will fix, i have been playingaround but none packages gone broken if that link removed
[03:34] <SpacePope> i checked 2 topics and nobody gave a good answer
[03:34] <lupine_85> you modify sources.list then run sudo apt-get update then run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:34] <SpacePope> yarg
[03:34] <lupine_85> that's all there should be to it
[03:34] <AngryElf> if IVTV is more or less a dependency for mythtv why isn't it a package? and also why then is mythtv a package?
[03:34] <SpacePope> what the hell does that mean :S
[03:34] <nexsan> no i haven't done a checksum
[03:34] <lupine_85> commands to put in a terminal window....
[03:34] <nexsan> please elaborate
[03:34] <BlueEagle> moco: Was anything broken while the link was in place?
[03:34] <Dr_willis> !mythtv
[03:34] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[03:35] <SpacePope> i don't know one word of code besides [html] 
[03:35] <linlin> http://pastebin.ca/183618
[03:35] <linlin> thyat is my sources.list
[03:35] <BlueEagle> moco: Will removing the link break a degradation to evo-2.2?
[03:35] <linlin> is it right to download VLC ?
[03:35] <Berto> briguyd, looks like i got it to compile, i had a mismatched linux-headers i believe.... oops!  thanks for the help
[03:35] <BlueEagle> berto: Good stuff.
[03:35] <moco> BlueEagle: not at all, since Evo reach up 2.8, i think the team forgot to remove it
[03:35] <SpacePope> how do i get to sources .list?
[03:36] <nexsan> writingdesk: the freeze is both on the desktop cd and the alternative
[03:36] <Berto> BlueEagle, def.  this is a new laptop from work, partitioned it right away and would love to work from my courtyard wirelessly in linux
[03:36] <writingdesk> nexsan: For instance in k3b there is an option when you burn an iso, to do a checksum on the cd to verify the integrity.  If you do that you will ensure that the CD you are using is not broken.  Try reburning at a slow speed and verifying file integrity
[03:36] <lupine_85> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:36] <BlueEagle> moco: But does it break evo-2.2 if you were to install an old package? Ie. might it be a backward compatibillity fix?
[03:36] <lupine_85> change all occurances of 'breezy' to 'dapper'
[03:36] <BlueEagle> moco: However if you'd like to report it as a bug then !bugs
[03:36] <nexsan> writingdesk: ok
[03:36] <edju> Can't find this on the ubuntu site . . . I see that an install of ubuntu does not provide the kernel source.  Can I compile a vanilla kernel from kernel.org, or do I need some ubuntu pathches or other?
[03:36] <nexsan> writingdesk: i'm using nbr
[03:37] <eugman> Hey, Is it possible to set up a one computer cvs server and client?
[03:37] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu has some kernel patches. You can get the kernel source.
[03:37] <Dr_willis> !kernel
[03:37] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:37] <nexsan> nero burning rom
[03:37] <briguyd> Berto, cool
[03:37] <SpacePope> it said authentication rejected
[03:37] <BlueEagle> edju: To build your own kernel you'll need the kernel source tree (apparantly) and the build-essentials package.
[03:37] <SpacePope> but still opened up sources.list'-gedit
[03:37] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell edju about build-essentials
[03:38] <BlueEagle> spacepope: ALT+F2 and type in: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:38] <nexsan> writingdesk: burning at a slower speed
[03:38] <eugman> Who has the power to add ubotu responses?
[03:38] <nexsan> see if that will work...
[03:38] <BlueEagle> spacepope: that will run gedit as root so you can save your modified sources.list file into /etc/apt/ directory.
[03:39] <SpacePope> and there was nothing in sources.list
[03:39] <nexsan> question... does cedega run well on ubuntu?
[03:39] <Dr_willis>  nexsan  yes.
[03:39] <Berto> briguyd, that's right!!  the wifi light is on in my laptop now!
[03:39] <SpacePope> in windows sp33k?
[03:39] <nexsan> awesome
[03:39] <BlueEagle> spacepope: if your sources.list is empty (make sure you didn't make a typo) then you might want to try !easysource
[03:39] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell spacepope about easysource
[03:39] <nexsan> can't wait to get rid of this
[03:40] <Jay_Levitt> Anyone know why sendmail might not be advertising STARTTLS?  I'm using a sendmail.mc that previously worked fine on Mandrake.. sendmail -d0.1 shows STARTTLS compiled in as the package advertises.
[03:40] <Berto> allright all - using kubuntu... any recommended wireless GUI apps?   i get sick of iwconfig/iwlist/etc...
[03:40] <nexsan> can i setup the partition directly from the installation, or is it necessary to create it before???
[03:40] <SpacePope> what's the 2 letter code of USA?
[03:40] <Dr_willis> !network-manager
[03:40] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[03:40] <krazykit> nexsan: cedega doesn't run well on anything, in my opinion.
[03:40] <eugman> Anyone here who can answer a few questions about cvs?
[03:41] <nexsan> krazykit: why do you say that?
[03:41] <Berto> Dr_willis - thanks... instlaling now
[03:41] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell eugman about anyone
[03:41] <Jay_Levitt> eugman: I used it many years ago... more recently I'm an SVN convert, but what's up?
[03:41] <nexsan> it's always fun trying to make games work on linux...
[03:41] <krazykit> nexsan: but that's me being biased against a closed-source program that doesn't work as well as it says it did.
[03:41] <SpacePope> what is the 2 letter code for USA?
[03:41] <krazykit> SpacePope: us
[03:41] <Jay_Levitt> SpacePope: us
[03:41] <Somniis> U.S.
[03:41] <nexsan> UA
[03:41] <nexsan> US
[03:41] <Jay_Levitt> Somniis: That's two letters and two dots!
[03:41] <Somniis> :P
[03:42] <SpacePope> do i check include updates and include security updates?
[03:42] <krazykit> nexsan: i never got half-life 2 working back in the 4.x days, when it was considered "out of the box"
[03:42] <krazykit> SpacePope: yeah
[03:42] <BlueEagle> spacepope: updates and security updates are generaly a good thing, yes.
[03:42] <nexsan> krazykit: i got steam running, and cs:S
[03:42] <eugman> BlueEagle, yes i know about anyone. But I don't have much of a specific question. Jay_Levitt, Let's say I have a personal computer and want to write a research paper or something else, how would I setup things to track revisions?
[03:42] <SpaceFrog> Is it possible to use VMWare or something similiar to boot my Windows OS partition within Linux?
[03:42] <nexsan> krazykit: nvidia drivers were a bit buggy at the time...
[03:43] <SpacePope> i don't know how to work source o matic :S
[03:43] <moco> BlueEagle: this is a mistake left by developers, when testing they leave evo-2.x for testing b/w 2.x versions, when finishing, they forgot to remove those 2.x links, they should only leave 1 entry as 'evolution'
[03:43] <briguyd> Berto, get it working?
[03:43] <kwtm> nexsan: I booted up my Ubuntu box.  It didn't list Parport0 or anything in as much detail; it just said things like "initializing hardware", etc.  I didn't know what button to push to make it switch to a more detailed screen.
[03:43] <krazykit> nexsan: ati drivers are always buggy and crummy
[03:43] <SpacePope> this is my first time ever using any sort of linux
[03:43] <wickedpuppy> SpaceFrog, there is vmware for linux
[03:43] <Jay_Levitt> eugman: Well, for starters, any reason you decided to choose CVS?
[03:43] <Berto> briguyd, yeah, now i gotta hook up my garbage access point.  If it doesn't reach my courtyard, then I shall be buying one of those routers that you acn load linux on and pump up the signal a bit
[03:43] <kwtm> Anyway, good luck.  I have to go now.
[03:43] <BlueEagle> moco: then !bugs unless it's already filed. :)
[03:43] <nexsan> kwtm: thanks... of course it would probably list different things on your box than mine... i disabled the parport0 in the bios and it didn't list it anymore...
[03:44] <eugman> Jay_Levitt, because I am ignorant of the alternatives besides svn.
[03:44] <nexsan> i'm slow burning the iso
[03:44] <moco> BlueEagle: can you submit a bug report on this? since I don't know how, remove /usr/bin/evolution-2.2 and evolution-2.2.desktop in /usr/share/applications will fix this bug
[03:44] <nexsan> see if that works, i was burning at 40x before
[03:44] <Berto> briguyd, thanks a lot.  i'm sure i'll have more questions on the transition (longtime mandrake/mandriva user).. very impressed with ubuntu besides a few issues
[03:44] <nexsan> did a 16x now
[03:44] <eugman> I started linux about a year ago so I'm still new to all of this.
[03:44] <nexsan> let's see if this works... i'll be back in a sec with more details....
[03:44] <BlueEagle> moco: I've never reported any bugs so I don't know how either. I just know where to find information on doing that. ;)
[03:45] <Jay_Levitt> eugman: Good reason :)  I think you'll find a lot more support and community for SVN than CVS... that alone might be reason to use it
[03:45] <Jay_Levitt> eugman: But at a very, very basic level: You'd set up a "repository" and a CVS/SVN server to manage it
[03:45] <SpacePope> so do i paste the source ting into sources.list?
[03:46] <Jay_Levitt> eugman: Then you use a CVS/SVN client to check your file(s) into the repository.  Each time they change, you check them in again, and the repository keeps track of the changes
[03:46] <xdx> hi
[03:46] <BlueEagle> eugman: If you don't have any spesific question to a spesific application and a spesific error or atleat generlal error then perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic might be more suiteable. :)
[03:46] <xdx> where can i find that wallpaper : http://img390.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newtwody0.png ?!
[03:46] <SpacePope> can someone just help me in pm since i seem to be ignored in the main room?
[03:47] <Red-Sox> Uhm, I thought at first that just my wireless networking with this fresh install wasn't working, but it turns out the LAN line doesn't either, any ideas guys?
[03:47] <Berto> next big project will be to get kde + ubuntu + xgl + compiz working... but i won't bother y'all about that one :)
[03:47] <SpacePope> i've been in here for an hour and a half asking for help and i feel like somebody is paying attention to me for 2 minutes and then forgets about me
[03:48] <Hooveyy> Haiiii
[03:48] <Somniis> SpacePope: perhaps we don't know how to help you, so we say nothing.
[03:48] <eugman> Jay_levitt, so do you think one of the two versioning systems would be the best solution to what I want?
[03:48] <Red-Sox> SpacePope: did you get my PM?
[03:49] <Hooveyy> SpacePope: nobody has to help you.
[03:49] <Jay_Levitt> SpacePope: Yes, exactly - welcome to IRC!
[03:49] <Hooveyy> We're here because we want to help, however most of us have lives.
[03:49] <eugman> !patience
[03:49] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:49] <Hooveyy> See.
[03:49] <Red-Sox> *Whispers* I think he died *Whispers* >.>
[03:49] <SpacePope> well, i do go to the help channel to get help, not to be ignored ;)
[03:49] <Hooveyy> Please re-ask your question and I may be able to assist you.
[03:50] <Red-Sox> SpacePope: If people know how to help, they will, just don't complain about how no one can duplicate your problem
[03:50] <SpacePope> well, red-sox seems to be helping me in PM
[03:50] <Hooveyy> Okay, that's good.
[03:50] <Jay_Levitt> eugman: For single text files like research papers, I think they would be overkill, but I'm not sure I know a simpler solution to suggest
[03:50] <hype> if people dont answer, it often me they dont have the answer tbh :p
[03:50] <Red-Sox> SpacePope: register your nick, I can't recieve your messages
[03:50] <SpacePope> i just prefer to hear that my problem can't be fixed, instead of me waiting 30 minutes for a response
[03:50] <willzzz> btw how is ubuntu resume from hibernation progressing? i use the official nvidia driver and my screen is stuck/frozen after resuming
[03:50] <hype> -me
[03:50] <trianglemanwins> has anyone here attempted WoW on ubuntu?
[03:51] <willzzz> so I can't hibernate on my laptop :\
[03:51] <Red-Sox> receive*
[03:51] <SpacePope> how can i register my nick?
[03:51] <Hooveyy> trianglemanwins: I have on Wine
[03:51] <hype> trianglemanwins,
[03:51] <Hooveyy> I've also tried HL2.
[03:51] <hype> cedega
[03:51] <eugman> Does someone know of a system simpler than cvs/svn for tracking changes in a singles or few files?
[03:51] <Red-Sox>  /msg nickserv register _PASSWORD_
[03:51] <Hooveyy> Hmm, they didn't run so well in wine.
[03:51] <hype> (theres thread on ubuntu forums, gaming section)
[03:51] <trianglemanwins> anyone have success with wine?
[03:51] <Hooveyy> I have.
[03:51] <Hooveyy> The installs were slow.
[03:51] <willzzz> WoW works fine with cedega i heard but that isn't necessarily free
[03:51] <Hooveyy> And the games did not run so well.
[03:51] <Hooveyy> Yeah
[03:51] <Red-Sox> trianglemanwins: yeah whatcha tryin to install?
[03:51] <willzzz> you can get wine/winex working if you tweak it alot
[03:51] <Hooveyy> CEDEGA is good, however it is no longer free.
[03:52] <willzzz> im trying to get CS:S working without crashing when connecting to servers
[03:52] <Red-Sox> Can't you compile it w/ CVS for free?
[03:52] <Hooveyy> I'm not sure.
[03:52] <jmartini> how do I get ubuntu to scan the usb ports for new devices
[03:52] <eugman> willzzz, http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=2095
[03:52] <starleaf> What package should I choose when downloading perl? AS, DEB or RPM?
[03:52] <Hooveyy> jmartini: what happened when you plugged the device in?
[03:52] <Red-Sox> SpacePope: did you reg your nick?
[03:52] <Bryce> eugman: hold on i do know of one
[03:52] <trianglemanwins> how do i respond to people when their name is yellow?
[03:53] <Red-Sox> SpacePope: I've got 8 minutes 'till bed time
[03:53] <Red-Sox> big tests tomorrow
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> starleaf, clearly its deb ... why bother downloading ? perl is in repo ... and unless i am mistaken its in ubuntu by default
[03:53] <jmartini> nothing, it was seen by the system, I unplugged it and plugged it back in and now nothing
[03:53] <SpacePope> i'm registered
[03:53] <jmartini> I can reboot to get it back but thats just kludgy
[03:53] <Red-Sox> SpacePope: okay now send messages if you want help
[03:53] <SpacePope> i am
[03:54] <Hooveyy> jmartini: so, it disappears, or what?
[03:54] <Red-Sox> SpacePope: /msg nickserv identify _PASSWORD_
[03:54] <mchao1> Hi guys, can anyone tell me how to exit X server to install nvidia drivers?
[03:54] <trianglemanwins> what does it mean if someones name is in yellow?
[03:54] <starleaf> wickedpuppy: Apparently not in the version I downloaded yesterday... trying to install the "cube" desktop, but first it said that I didn't have C and now it wants perl...
[03:54] <EvanIsaac> ok
[03:54] <EvanIsaac> lets try this
[03:54] <supafly420> how do i reconfigure the x-window system?
[03:54] <jmartini> Hooveyy: yes, specifically I'm talking about my usb headphones
[03:54] <sivik> mchao1, ctrl-alt-f1 and then killall xdm/kdm/gdm depending on what you are using
[03:54] <Red-Sox> Just identify EvanIsaac
[03:54] <sivik> supafly420, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:54] <wickedpuppy> starleaf, what version of perl is it asking for ?
[03:54] <newpZ> hi in gimp, under script-fu all the alpha to logo choises are greyed out... how do i enable them?
[03:54] <eugman> !xconfig
[03:54] <ubotu> xconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:54] <hype> supafly420, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:54] <hype> pwnd
[03:54] <mchao1> sivik: I tried that but I just get a blank black screen
[03:54] <Red-Sox> 6 minutes EvanIsaac
[03:54] <hype> :/
[03:55] <briguyd> BlueEagle, ok, i was able to mount the user's directory on the remote machine with no problems, in that i have a symbolic link back to the USB drive, it doesnt work on the remote machine, however, another sym link to another area on the same hard drive works fine
[03:55] <sivik> mchao1, ok, ctrl-alt-f2
[03:55] <drminime> Hey, my desktop is not refreshing - i just installed XFree86 to work w/ my ATI graphics, does anyone have any advice?
[03:55] <sivik> drminime, did you restart the xserver?
[03:55] <starleaf> It just says "XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool"
[03:55] <mchao1> sivik: thanks I give that a try brb
[03:55] <eugman> hype, sivik, typing !xconfig will save you time.
[03:55] <EvanIsaac> redsox?
[03:55] <Hooveyy> Holy, I do not like cold pills anymore. I took an Advil one for my cold and now I'm drowsy. :/
[03:56] <sivik> eugman, yeah, oh well
[03:56] <drminime> what's the restart command?
[03:56] <lostboyz> hi i had a question
[03:56] <Hooveyy> Ask away lostboyz.
[03:56] <sivik> drminime, ctrl-alt-backspace
[03:56] <starleaf> wickedpuppy: Sorry, it just says this and exits: "XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool"
[03:56] <eugman> sivik, I'm only saying because that question seems to come up often.
[03:56] <Red-Sox[away] > lostboyz: shoot
[03:56] <jmartini> drminime: shutdown -r now
[03:56] <lostboyz> why is it that i can use my webcam in ekiga but it does not start in amsn?
[03:56] <sivik> eugman, ok, thanks
[03:56] <wickedpuppy> starleaf, thats a perl module .. not perl
[03:56] <mchao1> sivik: just a blank screen again
[03:56] <sivik> drminime, sudo poweroff
[03:56] <Hooveyy> lostboyz: maybe it's unsupported in aMSN.
[03:56] <drminime> did that, same issue
[03:56] <eugman> bryce, any luck yet?
[03:56] <sivik> jmartini, poweroff is shorter to type
[03:56] <wickedpuppy> starleaf, pls look for that module in synaptic and then install it
[03:57] <sivik> mchaol: thats weird
[03:57] <lostboyz> no webcam was working in amsn in suse
[03:57] <Bryce> eugman: still looking have no fear
[03:57] <lostboyz> when i had it working
[03:57] <jmartini> sivik: but not standard across unixes
[03:57] <trianglemanwins> any idea how to reconize cds in wine?
[03:57] <sivik> jmartini, lol
[03:57] <Hooveyy> lostboyz: latest version of aMSN?
[03:57] <Dr_willis> edit/check the wine configs and docs.
[03:57] <drminime> don't need it, martini
[03:57] <sivik> trianglemanwins, you have to mount the disc first
[03:57] <starleaf> wickedpuppy: Let me guess... browsing thrugh Howtos again?
[03:57] <sivik> drminime, but i'm assuming he is using ubuntu since he is in this channel
[03:57] <wickedpuppy> starleaf, synaptic .. not hot-to
[03:57] <wickedpuppy> how to
[03:57] <trianglemanwins> how do i respond to a personal message?
[03:58] <slavik> anyone have luck installing apache through synaptic?
[03:58] <wickedpuppy> trianglemanwins, type
[03:58] <starleaf> wickedpuppy: :)
[03:58] <BlueEagle> trianglemanwins: You'll need to register with nickserv
[03:58] <sivik> trianglemanwins, you click on the tab
[03:58] <twysted> ok so im going to install ubuntu but i still want to be able to update my ipod any suggestions?
[03:58] <Hooveyy> slavik: why not just install the LAMP server?
[03:58] <jmartini> I use alot of things so its easier to stick what works across most of them
[03:58] <XMuffinFlavoredX> sudo apt-get install gtkpod
[03:58] <XMuffinFlavoredX> Thats for iPods.
[03:58] <newpZ> is there like script-fu plugins for gimp to get the greyed out stuf working?
[03:58] <slavik> Hooveyy: it was just a question ...
[03:58] <Hooveyy> Oh,
[03:58] <slavik> and ubuntu can be a LAMP server
[03:58] <lostboyz> yes i have latest version of msn
[03:58] <XMuffinFlavoredX> twysted: sudo apt-get install gtkpod
[03:58] <BlueEagle> trianglemanwins: /msg nickserv help
[03:58] <Hooveyy> lostboyz: Hmm, okay, I'm not too sure then, sorry
[03:58] <BlueEagle> trianglemanwins: that ought to show you how to register.
[03:58] <twysted> hmm
[03:59] <Hooveyy> slavik: I tried it once, installed fine,
[03:59] <Hooveyy> slavik: I couldn't get SQL to install though ;/
[03:59] <Halpo> why is editing the "Places" menu restricted?
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> Hooveyy, what apt-get you used to install sql ?
[03:59] <Hooveyy> I installed it out of the Synaptic GUI
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> client or server btw ?
[03:59] <cpk2> !lamp
[03:59] <ubotu> offically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)
[03:59] <trianglemanwins> msg BlueEagle test
[03:59] <Hooveyy> Server,
[03:59] <Geoffrey2> can anyone tell me how, in the xsane image scanner, to get a document scanned in black&white instead of color?
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> trianglemanwins, you must have /
[04:00] <eugman> NewpZ, I think there is probably something else causing your problem. Like working on an indexed image.
[04:00] <drminime> desktop still having a refresh problem
[04:00] <wickedpuppy> Hooveyy, so installed failed ? or ??
[04:00] <drminime> tried restarting x, no good
[04:00] <slavik> Hooveyy: I tried, they only had 1.3 in repos and that gave errors ...
[04:00] <newpZ> eugman, its a new project :)
[04:00] <BlueEagle> trianglemanwins: You might want /msg blueeagle test for that. :p
[04:00] <newpZ> i want to make something with it
[04:00] <Hooveyy> wickedpuppy: It installed but wouldn't start.
[04:00] <wickedpuppy> Hooveyy, how did you star it ?
[04:00] <wickedpuppy> start
[04:00] <drminime> any other suggestions?
[04:00] <slavik> mysqld ...
[04:00] <slavik> I think
[04:00] <Hooveyy> yeah.
[04:00] <Bryce> eugman: really stlill looking just not having luck
[04:01] <BlueEagle> slavik: is what you are looking for: sudo apt-get install php5 mysql-server
[04:01] <eugman> newpZ, I'm not sure then. Maybe you need Scheme but they should be working.
[04:01] <slavik> well, at work, I will be installing LAMP with Tomcat and FreeTDS
[04:01] <Hooveyy> I'm gonna boot Ubuntu into VMWARE and try installing Apache / SQL
[04:01] <starleaf> ARgh! Ubuntu is a bit annoying when you aren't root... how do I bypass the synaptic complaint about me not being root?
[04:01] <twysted> Hooveyy> how couldnt u get mysql server to install?
[04:01] <Hooveyy> twysted: It installed
[04:02] <Hooveyy> But wouldn't start
[04:02] <twysted> starleaf> it should ask you to run as root
[04:02] <BlueEagle> hooveyy: Does it give any error messages?
[04:02] <Hooveyy> But that was a while ago, I'm gonna try again even though I have no use for it :p
[04:02] <twysted> Hooveyy> check the error log and find out why
[04:02] <Hooveyy> No, no.
[04:02] <slavik> BlueEagle: not really ... I have no use (for now) for it, but for work I will be doing this on Fedora Core 5 or CentOS 4 and I have to compile my own PHP anyway ... maybe even Tomcat
[04:02] <Hooveyy> One sec, booting up Ubuntu.
[04:02] <starleaf> twysted: Just says Sorry, you are not root, you can only read but not change the package database
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> starleaf, sudo
[04:03] <twysted> starleaf> restart synaptic  it shouldnt do that, are you the only user?
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> starleaf, when you use synaptic it asks for the password isnt it ?
[04:03] <Dr_willis> sudo synaptic
[04:03] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:04] <Bryce> eugman: how bout git?
[04:04] <starleaf> I'm the only user, but it was three hours ago since my last cup of coffee... :P tried su not sudo... :/
[04:04] <eugman> I'll take a look at it
[04:04] <XMuffinFlavoredX> starleaf: run gksudo synapatic
[04:04] <XMuffinFlavoredX> Isn't that it?
[04:04] <Bryce> eugman: http://www.darcs.net/
[04:05] <Bryce> eugman: that's the one that i was thinking of
[04:05] <slavik> hmm
[04:05] <Hooveyy> !lamp
[04:05] <ubotu> offically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)
[04:05] <SpaceFrog> What repository has GAIM BETA 2?
[04:05] <slavik> Hooveyy: when you are setting up a 'real' server (where there are Microsoft things that need to be used), you have to compile half the stuff anyway
[04:06] <slavik> SpaceFrog: for you, none :P
[04:06] <eugman> Bryce, looks interesting. What's different about it?
[04:06] <wickedpuppy> oh Hooveyy if you still can't start mysql try sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[04:06] <SpaceFrog> slavik: Why? :(
[04:06] <slavik> SpaceFrog: because dapper is stable, hence you get only 1.5, unless you want to compile your own :)
[04:06] <SpaceFrog> oh, i see
[04:07] <Arrick> hi guys and gals
[04:07] <Hooveyy> where can i get apache 1.3.37? :p
[04:07] <Astray> Hi there.
[04:07] <wickedpuppy> i doubt here for gals ...
[04:07] <lupine_85> !info apache dapper
[04:07] <wickedpuppy> Hooveyy, in the repos ?
[04:07] <ubotu> apache: versatile, high-performance HTTP server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.34-2ubuntu0.1 (dapper), package size 375 kB, installed size 808 kB
[04:08] <Arrick> whaere would I find the files for openssh-server in the breezy setup?
[04:08] <wickedpuppy> Arrick, you got to download from the repo ...
[04:08] <wickedpuppy> i don't think its in the cd ...
[04:08] <wickedpuppy> no sure...
[04:08] <wickedpuppy> not
[04:08] <BlueEagle> slavik: soo... ehh.. what was the ubuntu related question again? I just installed apache on this box.
[04:08] <Arrick> wickedpuppy, I have it installed, I want to edit it
[04:08] <Bryce> eugman: it's simple and powerful
[04:08] <Arrick> but I cant fine the files
[04:08] <slavik> BlueEagle: what version?
[04:09] <wickedpuppy> Arrick, its in /etc/ssh
[04:09] <Bryce> eugman: i've have much less trouble with that htan cvs
[04:09] <Bryce> eugman: and it's still pretty powerfull
[04:09] <Arrick> thanks
[04:09] <wickedpuppy> Arrick, normally config files are in /etc/program_name
[04:09] <slavik> Ok, I am pissed off ...
[04:09] <HellDragon> night
[04:09] <slavik> Ubuntu is wasting like 3GB of HDD space!!!!
[04:09] <eugman> Bryce, ok cool. I'll try it out this week.
[04:09] <slavik> FOR NOTHING!!!!!!
[04:10] <wickedpuppy> slavik, ? how ?
[04:10] <Hooveyy> ..Ok then
[04:10] <slavik> subversion?
[04:10] <Arrick> thanks wickedpuppy
[04:10] <Hooveyy> where do i put php files
[04:10] <slavik> wickedpuppy: Edgy made a 3GB swap aprtition, but when I look at top ... it's not used at ALL!!!
[04:10] <Hooveyy> like
[04:10] <Hooveyy> i just installed apache
[04:10] <Hooveyy> php, and sql
[04:10] <Hooveyy> and i dunno where i put php files
[04:10] <slavik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24950
[04:10] <sproingie> three whole gigs, how unforgiveable
[04:10] <wickedpuppy> slavik, so you let the cd do the partitioning ?
[04:10] <slavik> I want my 3GB back
[04:10] <sproingie> partition it yourself next time
[04:10] <slavik> yeah, heh
[04:11] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:11] <slavik> I guess it did RAM*2.5 or something
[04:11] <slavik> actually, manual editing didn't work ..
[04:11] <sproingie> no i think it just takes 3G
[04:11] <wickedpuppy> dude .. it asked for permission before it does the partitioning ... so yah the fault lies with the guy so says yes
[04:11] <Bryce> eugman: also if you feel intrepid try out searchign "revision control" (without the quotes of course) in synaptic and that'll show you all the ones in the apt repository which wll make installation a snap
[04:11] <slavik> I didn't know 3GB was so much
[04:11] <Red-Sox> Okay, I'm back :)
[04:11] <sproingie> that whole RAM*2 thing is an old saw that isn't necessary any more
[04:12] <slavik> Do you know how much usefull material I could fit on there?
[04:12] <sproingie> came from when linux was using a buddy allocator i think
[04:12] <wickedpuppy> sproingie, you never know ... i have a com with 128 mb of ram ..
[04:12] <BlueEagle> slavik: Server version: Apache/2.0.55
[04:12] <Red-Sox> Now, who was I helping in the PM...EvanIsaac was it?
[04:12] <slavik> BlueEagle: from the repos? I don't remember it there
[04:12] <sproingie> wickedpuppy: heh you probably want a lot more then
[04:12] <BlueEagle> slavik: From the repos.
[04:12] <slavik> oh ... damn it ... I forgot that v2.0 is called httpd not apache
[04:13] <slavik> oh well
[04:13] <wickedpuppy> sproingie, true .. but with 2 gig of swap .. its running fine
[04:13] <eugman> Bryce, so anythere where I keep track of changes to files would fall under the category of revision control, correct?
[04:13] <BlueEagle> slavik: I'd slap a !language on you if I were from the US. :)
[04:13] <slavik> BlueEagle: not my fault they renamed it for some weird reason :P
[04:13] <starleaf> Apparently now I don't have GTK2.0+?? Synaptic says it's installed...
[04:13] <Bryce> eugman: yup i'd assume so, i dunno why not
[04:14] <wickedpuppy> starleaf, what error message says you don't have gtk2.0 ?
[04:14] <Bryce> eugman: heh, well anything with different versions... that you track....woudl be revision control
[04:14] <Arrick> wickedpuppy, can I set ssh up so it listens to more than one port?
[04:14] <wickedpuppy> Arrick, more than 1 port ?
[04:14] <wickedpuppy> why ?
[04:15] <sproingie> i can think of a lot of reasons why
[04:15] <Arrick> yeah, on my router I can make it forward to a range of ports, and I would like to make it 2 ports
[04:15] <Hooveyy> Where do I put PHP files (I have Apache, PHP5, and MYSQL installed) on Ubuntu?
[04:15] <joshua__> hello all
[04:15] <eugman> Bryce, Well I could imagine that it could have a specific meaning like projects able to manage large projects why some sort of more tangential program would have some other definition.
[04:15] <Hooveyy> I just installed the LAMP stuff.
[04:15] <slavik> Hooveyy: into the DocumentRoot
[04:15] <Hooveyy> Which is where? ;/
[04:15] <slavik> which is defined in the apache config
[04:15] <wickedpuppy> Arrick, you can try ... i never try before .. the file to edit is /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[04:15] <starleaf> wickedpuppy: the ./conf I run to setup for the "cube" says No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[04:15] <eugman> er, programs able to manage large projects
[04:15] <Arrick> ok thanks
[04:15] <Hooveyy> Where is the Apache config? :p
[04:16] <asdf> i'm installing the kernel soruces to enable smp for this duo laptop. is there anything i need to do in order to use the existing config?
[04:16] <wickedpuppy> starleaf, the "cube" ... it isn't in the repo ?
[04:16] <starleaf> wickedpuppy: along with a whole bunch of other things it needs...
[04:16] <diswill> need help with klamav on kubuntu the auto scan process dies unexpectitly very quickly 3-5 seconds after I enable it. Does any one care to helpl me fix this? TIA
[04:16] <slavik>  /etc/apache/httpd.conf
[04:16] <wickedpuppy> Hooveyy, as always /etc/apache
[04:16] <slavik> or /etc/httpd/httpd.conf
[04:16] <wickedpuppy> /etc/program_name
[04:16] <Bryce> eugman: no no it wasnt you, i was just thinking and well... it seems like the kind of thing that would have about a thousand crazy names
[04:17] <wickedpuppy> starleaf, pls check if there is a ubuntu or debian package for that ... before compiling ...
[04:17] <starleaf> wickedpuppy: If it went into repo half an hour ago, from whereI got it a post two days ago said mem leak was fixed and it was stable
[04:17] <Arrick> can I make it where I have two nics activated, one with dhcp which listens to nothing and the other with a static that only listens to certain ports?
[04:17] <Bryce> eugman: i wasn't trying to be an ass, i was just confusing myself by overthinking it because it just seems ambiguious
[04:17] <Bryce> eugman:  no offence was meant
[04:17] <wickedpuppy> Arrick, you got two lan ports ?
[04:17] <starleaf> wickedpuppy: I have tried, but I dont know what to search for other than "aiglx"
[04:18] <gunfus> ubuntu tell me about xserver
[04:18] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell gunfus about xserver
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <eugman> Bryce, None was taken I was just trying to show that from my point of view things don't seems that simple. Unfortunately they aren't always as simple as they should be with linux.
[04:18] <h6w> Hey, I know that usr is short for user and bin is short for binary.  Home means peoples home folders, and boot is for the boot process and proc is for system processes.  But what does etc and var stand for?  I can't seem to find it on the net anywhere.
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> what is this cube thing you are installing ? honestly i never heard of it before ... perhaps others sed it before ?
[04:18] <gunfus> hi guys, I am trying to setup my xserver to have access by another user (myttv)
[04:18] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell gunfus about xorg
[04:18] <Arrick> wickedpuppy, yeah, I have dozens, but two in this box
[04:18] <slavik> BlueEagle: I installed the default FC5 apache/PHP and here's the kicker ...
[04:18] <BlueEagle> gunfus: that seems to have done the trick. :)
[04:19] <Bryce> eugman: yeah i know exactly what you mean. Like the fact that there's a million ways to say and do things is great.....but that's also a big pain in the ass too
[04:19] <Hooveyy> Sweet, VMWARE lagged ;\
[04:19] <BlueEagle> slavik: You need to edit stuff to make php avail to apache?
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> Arrick, for that stuff you got to consule the how-tos ... i never set up ssh that way before
[04:19] <Hooveyy> !lamp
[04:19] <ubotu> offically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)
[04:19] <Hooveyy> there ya go.
[04:19] <Red-Sox> !sources
[04:19] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:19] <slavik> PHP was configured with apsx2=/usr/bin/apsx (which wasn't there), then it was configured with --with-unixODBC=/usr/share and later there was a --without-unixODBC :D
[04:19] <EvanIsaac> !sources
[04:19] <Red-Sox> !easysource
[04:19] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
 bug in obutu it never said anything about xorg
[04:19] <slavik> BlueEagle: you need to add a data type, so that apache knows how to treat it
[04:20] <h6w> !xfs
[04:20] <ubotu> xfs: X font server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 50 kB, installed size 180 kB
[04:20] <slavik> google something like 'apache php mime type'
[04:20] <Arrick> wickedpuppy, if i can get knowledge from here ont eh two nics, i can setup the ssh, now that i knwo where the files are
[04:20] <BlueEagle> slavik: Well, it worked OTB here. :)
[04:20] <Hooveyy> !xorg
[04:20] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:20] <slavik> BlueEagle: because someone with a brain compiled it ...
[04:20] <h6w> !xfs-filesystem
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xfs-filesystem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <BlueEagle> slavik: :D
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> Arrick, aren't the two nics working ?
[04:20] <starleaf> wickedpuppy: It's a graphical verion of the four desktops you usualy have in a linux WM but instead of clicking on the icons to switch desktop you just rotate it
[04:20] <Hooveyy> !fat16
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fat16 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <Bryce> wait a second.... tell me that ubotu was kidding
[04:20] <sproingie> !fat
[04:20] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:20] <Hooveyy> !fat32-filesystem
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> starleaf, you talking about xgl ?
[04:20] <slavik> so I had to recompile apache (because apsx was never installed) and then make a proper php compile (mainly because I needed tio compile it with a MS-SQL driver)
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fat32-filesystem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:21] <Bryce> when it said that postgresql was a scripting language
[04:21] <Hooveyy> >_>
[04:21] <Bryce> !fat32
[04:21] <BlueEagle> slavik: Well that depends really as PHP can do dangerouse or atleast unwise things with your system so you might want to make sure the users has got some clue before making it availible.
[04:21] <Hooveyy> !ntfs
[04:21] <starleaf> wickedpuppy: You tell me, I just saw a picture of it and wanted to try it...
[04:21] <wickedpuppy> !botabuse
[04:21] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[04:21] <Hooveyy> I think the bot exploded............
[04:21] <sproingie> technically you could throw your entire app into pgpython or pgperl or whatnot
[04:21] <BlueEagle> slavik: ...but that's moving offtopic. :)
[04:21] <sproingie> it wouldn't be wise...
[04:21] <wickedpuppy> !xgl > starleaf
[04:21] <Arrick> only one is active, I remember some problem having wireless and a lan workign at the same time, adn I dotn want that to happen to my box with two lan cards
[04:21] <Arrick> wickedpuppy, ^
[04:22] <tonyyarusso> Hooveyy: Should have tried searching at the URL it gave you.  Now you're being ignored.
[04:22] <gunfus> Hey guys..
[04:22] <slavik> BlueEagle: your php box also has ftp for php enabled?
[04:22] <slavik> whatever that is
[04:22] <gunfus> in my application menu I don't have system tools
[04:22] <wickedpuppy> Arrick, both are lans right ? are they detected ? when you do ifconfig
[04:22] <gunfus> run as a different user
[04:22] <starleaf> wickedpuppy: Thanks! :D
[04:22] <slavik> where would I change my default audio output device?
[04:22] <BlueEagle> slavik: If you'd like to continue this conversation we can do that in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[04:23] <BlueEagle> ...or /msg me :)
[04:23] <Arrick> wickedpuppy, yes
[04:23] <slavik> it's pretty much done, not much to talk about
[04:23] <BlueEagle> :)
[04:23] <gunfus> in my application menu I don't have system tools > run as a different user?
[04:23] <wickedpuppy> Arrick, then try this sudo ifup eth?
[04:24] <wickedpuppy> ? means 1 2 or 3 ... its regex :P
[04:24] <Arrick> ok, i just wanted to make sure that it wouldnt cause probs, cause it is what I am writing on, and I am voiced in freenode
[04:25] <wickedpuppy> gunfus, what about in System menu ?
[04:25] <hav0k> what's the command to set a password?
[04:25] <BlueEagle> hav0k: passwd
[04:25] <wickedpuppy> Arrick, well .. if i see you disconnected i know what happened ...
[04:25] <hav0k> thanks BlueEagle
[04:25] <Arrick> yeah thanks
 nop..
[04:25] <BlueEagle> hav0k: np. Also please concider using sudo -s instead of setting a password for root.
[04:26] <Likwidoxigen> i'm heading out goodnight guys
[04:26] <Hooveyy> Hmm, two of my friends r missing.
[04:26] <Hooveyy> Whoops, offtopic.
 nop..
[04:30] <gunfus> in my application menu I don't have system tools > run as a different user?
[04:31] <dave> question
[04:31] <Arrick> !ask
[04:31] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:31] <brian98> gunfus: your point?
[04:31] <dave> i like aptitude and i know its best for package management and all but why does it constantly want to uninstall all this stuff?
[04:32] <brian98> dave: like when?
[04:32] <Boson_> ny1 here know foobar?
[04:32] <slavik> dave, maybe the packages conflict :)
[04:32] <gunfus> brian98:  How do I get it..?
[04:33] <gunfus> brian98: how do I get the menu that I don't have under Applications  > run as a different user
[04:33] <dave> it says the following packages are unused and will be removed
[04:33] <Boson_> ny1 here know foobar?
[04:33] <dave> and some of them i know I use
[04:33] <Lam_> is there an option i can add to the monitor section of my xorg.conf file to force detection of "widescreen modes" despite my monitor not (but it does) supporting it?  i don't want to ADD a widescreen resolution because certain games check the monitor for resolution capabilities
[04:34] <Telroth_Plushie|> gonna have to add it to force it
[04:34] <Lam_> i'm using widescreen resolutiosn right now
[04:34] <Lam_> but counter-strike will not let me change my aspect ratio
[04:34] <BlueEagle> !phpmyadmin
[04:34] <ubotu> phpmyadmin: set of PHP-scripts to administrate MySQL over the WWW. In component universe, is extra. Version 4:2.8.0.3-1 (dapper), package size 3516 kB, installed size 13724 kB
[04:34] <Lam_> it thinks my monitor can't support widescreen
[04:35] <Lam_> so i play 1024x768 with the screen stretched horizontally to 1280
[04:35] <Lam_> which is annoying
[04:35] <Lam_> if possible, i can live with scaling too. if i can get counterstrike to add huge black bars on the side to maintain aspect ratio, that's fine
[04:36] <brian98> gunfus: alacarte menu editor is your friend
[04:36] <brian98> add run as a different user under system tools
[04:36] <gunfus> brian98:  Ahh would you look at that..
[04:37] <gunfus> that wasn't there in previous relases
[04:37] <brian98> jebus
[04:37] <brian98> gunfus: sorted?
[04:38] <gunfus> brian98: Yep!! Thanks Man!
[04:40] <Denstark> Hi there. I have a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Sound card, and I want to turn down the base that my speakers put out. I tried changing it in alsamixer but nothing happens. Can anyone take a stab at helping me? =)
[04:40] <Arrick> hey, which port has more problems with attackers, 21 or 22?
[04:40] <brian98> arrick: why?
[04:41] <krazykit> Lam_: in wine?  you could window it.  use the "virtual desktop" feature in winecfg and just get rid of the window borders
[04:42] <brian98> no worries
[04:42] <Lam_> krazykit: i'm using cedega, but if it works with wine, i don't mind trying that
[04:42] <krazykit> Lam_: oh, i don't know cedega.  i'm sure there's some option there.
[04:42] <Lam_> krazykit: i'm trying to get it to maintain aspect ratio in fullscreen mode, whether it is 4:3 or 16:10
[04:43] <nexsan> ok
[04:43] <nexsan> no deal
[04:43] <Arrick> good lord I had lag so bad I thought my dual nics bumped me off
[04:44] <nexsan> differences between fedora and ubuntu?
[04:44] <spuddogg> Does anyone know how to get the menubar back in XChat?
[04:45] <Asc> nexsan: yes
[04:46] <nexsan> ?
[04:46] <Cruvader> Hi guys, I just installed ubuntu my first linux distro!, but i really need some help
[04:46] <Buglouse> Does anyone know of the Windows Internet Media Streamer called Sam3 Media Broadcaster?  I'm looking iether to install that on my Ubuntu Drapper Drake OS or an alternative to that.
[04:46] <Cruvader> i plugged in my laptops wireless card after install and i dont know how to install it? :(
[04:47] <Asc> nexsan: Yes, there are
[04:47] <thenetduck> does anyone know of a good backup program to back up my system???
[04:47] <Cruvader> is their a command i can run or something
[04:47] <cpk2> Cruvader: what kind of wireless card?
[04:47] <Cruvader> um lemme go check
[04:47] <nexsan> i can't get ubuntu to install
[04:47] <cpk2> Cruvader: hopefully it will show up in lspci
[04:47] <nexsan> damnit
[04:47] <nexsan> he might have to compile a driver
[04:47] <nexsan> i had to do that with my d-link card
[04:48] <Cruvader> it's made by Proxim? um ..
[04:48] <Cruvader> proxim gold card? : o
[04:48] <aroon> does it come with a high credit limit?
[04:48] <cpk2> Cruvader: can you see it in lspci when it is in your laptop?
[04:48] <Phoenix1701> Hey folks.  I got hit by the kernel upgrade/nvidia driver problem, but the new restricted driver package didn't fix it for me.  I think it might be because I'm using the 686 kernel, not 386 -- do I have any recourse here?
[04:49] <Cruvader> i'll check again lol
[04:49] <nexsan> does anyone know why ubuntu freezes when it's going through the checklist upon boot- install?
[04:50] <Arrick> ok guys, I am using the right password, and I am getting denied, how do I check my username, to make sure I am using the right own?
[04:50] <Arrick> one
[04:50] <spuddogg> Does anyone know the syntax and command to make a symlink?
[04:50] <TIM90> nexus what graphics card do you use
[04:50] <nexsan> nvidia 7900 gt ko
[04:50] <brian98> arrick: doing what
[04:51] <brian98> ?
[04:51] <Asc> arrick: id
[04:51] <wickedpuppy> spuddogg, ln -s
[04:51] <Dr_willis> ln -s somthing somthingelse
[04:51] <nexsan> pci-x
[04:51] <EvanIsaac> question
[04:51] <Arrick> i figured it out thanks anyways, it was a caps deal
[04:51] <Phoenix1701> nexsan: Is it hanging at the "loading hardware drivers" stage, perchance?
[04:51] <eternalswd> I have an ubuntu machine that connects to the http/s via a proxy server say, server.com:80  I have a windows machine that's connected directly to the ubuntu machine via crossover cable.  I have ssh setup between the two.  How would I set port 80 from the windows machine to tunnel through to server.com:80?
[04:51] <TIM90> ok i thought i would have been your card  it was an ati
[04:51] <EvanIsaac> i'm trying to upgrade from breezy badger to dapper drake
[04:51] <nexsan> no, it hangs right after the line: parport0 PC Style at....
[04:52] <Phoenix1701> TIM90: That same error exists with nvidia cards too, actually.
[04:52] <EvanIsaac> and i'm doing it by the upgrading by changing sources and the command line section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[04:52] <Arrick> how would I go about setting up 1 nic so that it doesnt listen to any ports, but the other one does?
[04:52] <tyler_d> wireless networking problem, cannot enable wireless networking, no error messages?
[04:52] <Phoenix1701> nexsan: Hm...  in that case I'm not so sure; is this a new thing, or has it always done this?
[04:52] <nexsan> which i have gone and disabled the parallel port, the line no longer shows and still hangs...
[04:52] <EvanIsaac> my question is when i typed in sudo apt-get update
[04:52] <Arrick> tyler_d, are you connected by lan at the same time?
[04:52] <nexsan> i've only tried installing today
[04:52] <EvanIsaac> everything seemed to work fine except the last thing i got
[04:52] <nexsan> the live cd also hangs
[04:52] <TIM90> nexsan : is this and alternat cd
[04:52] <yanger> kino-dvtitler: Depends: kino (>= 0.7) but it is not going to be installed  E: Broken packages
[04:53] <ToHellWithGA> i need to open or convert a MATLAB .fig file for use in a presentation.  can that be done in ubuntu without using MATLAB through WINE (which is painfully slow)
[04:53] <nexsan> yea
[04:53] <yanger> is that a bug?
[04:53] <tyler_d> Arrick: tried with and without
[04:53] <nexsan> alternate cd
[04:53] <yanger> kino is 0.8
[04:53] <EvanIsaac> cpufreq: change failed with new_state 1 and result 0
[04:53] <Phoenix1701> nexsan: Do you have an Intel onboard graphics card?  (This may very well not have anything to do with your problem, but it's something I've observed)
[04:53] <Arrick> check the compatibility list tyler_d ?
[04:53] <nexsan> no
[04:53] <tyler_d> Arrick: found where
[04:53] <Arrick> !wireless
[04:53] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:53] <EvanIsaac> anyone? anyone?
[04:53] <Arrick> tyler_d, check ubotus post
[04:54] <Asc> Does the OSS MATLAB-similar-program have the ability to read such things?
[04:54] <Phoenix1701> Okay...  then I'm out of ideas.
[04:54] <Phoenix1701> Sorry...
[04:54] <nexsan> full specs: AMD Athlon X2 4200, 2 GB Corsair XMS DDR2, WD 250 GB SATA
[04:54] <nexsan> Asus M2N motherboard
[04:54] <spuddogg> wickedpuppy, do you know the exact symlink syntax?  i need `/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build' to point to '/usr/src' (or vice-versa, can't remember
[04:54] <nexsan> nvidia 7900 gt ko
[04:54] <Buglouse> Does anyone know how I can boot into windows without having to install the OS. ie; from a CD?
[04:54] <nexsan> no freaking idea what could be causing the freeze
[04:55] <TIM90> is that th only hard drive you have in you system
[04:55] <nexsan> i disabled the J micron controller to no avail...
[04:55] <wickedpuppy> spuddogg, ln -s somthing somthingelse <-- from Dr_willis
[04:55] <wickedpuppy> :P
[04:55] <whatsreal> Buglouse: wrong freaking channel
[04:55] <nexsan> i have one drive, with no linux partition set, could this be the problem?
[04:55] <spuddogg> wickedpuppy, ahh, that clears everything up :)
[04:55] <nexsan> or could i set the partition from the installation?
[04:55] <Arrick> Buglouse, join #windows
[04:55] <TIM90> only one way to find out
[04:55] <wickedpuppy> spuddogg, you can also do man ln of course :P
[04:55] <Buglouse> well i have Ubuntu installed but need to do a windows task....
[04:56] <whatsreal> what do you need to do?
[04:56] <TIM90> Buglouse whats that task then
[04:56] <Dr_willis> vmware :P
[04:56] <Buglouse> chkdisk
[04:56] <tyler_d> Arrick: nothing
[04:56] <EvanIsaac> anybody hear what isaid??
[04:57] <Arrick> if its not on that list, give details of what you have in here, and you will get helped quicker
[04:57] <Arrick> tyler_d, ^
[04:57] <EvanIsaac> this is a matter of life or death for my laptop :\
[04:57] <nexsan> i'm getting pwned by ubuntu
[04:57] <jwl007> haha welcome to the club
[04:57] <nexsan> lol
[04:57] <EvanIsaac> lol
[04:57] <EvanIsaac> well
[04:57] <Asc> ToHellWithGA: Try looking into 'scilab' and 'octave'.  They are OSS programs with (supposedly) reasonable compatability with MATLAB
[04:57] <EvanIsaac> does anyone know anything in here?
[04:58] <EvanIsaac> because i sure don't
[04:58] <nexsan> they do, but not our issues
[04:58] <Dr_willis> I dident even see your question.....
[04:58] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:58] <EvanIsaac> ok
[04:58] <ToHellWithGA> Asc: i'm using octave, but i think scilab actually uses matlab
[04:58] <spuddogg> man, i need kitche
[04:58] <EvanIsaac> I'm trying to upgrade from badger to drake
[04:58] <Asc> EvanIssac: no, we're all as clueless as you.  Every one of us/
[04:58] <EvanIsaac> willis
[04:58] <Vyle> Yeah the card shows up when I use 'lspci'
[04:58] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:58] <Phoenix1701> EvanIsaac: I know a great deal of things.  Now, how many of those things have anything to do with Ubuntu, I can't say
[04:58] <TIM90> why do you want to chkdsk
[04:58] <EvanIsaac> I just want to know if i should put the 2nd command in
[04:59] <tyler_d> Arrick: when I go to enable wireless networking through network settings, the computer thinks for a bit, then I click ok, thinks for a short period then nothing, on the panel it doesn't show up and no indication of it trying to??
[04:59] <Dr_willis> what second command?
[04:59] <EvanIsaac> of upgrading from badger to drake by changing sources and the command line
[04:59] <nexsan> someone have a gun and a penguin handy?
[04:59] <ranek> Hello!
[04:59] <EvanIsaac> i'm using  the steps given on sudo apt-get update
[04:59] <EvanIsaac> wait
[04:59] <EvanIsaac> on
[04:59] <Arrick> tyler_d, give the model and make of your laptop, as well as the wireless card
[04:59] <brian|lfs> wtf did you all do to xgl it don't install anymore
[04:59] <nexsan> since i need the pc, might as well kill the penguin
[04:59] <EvanIsaac> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[04:59] <ranek> I'm rather new to Ubuntu, could any one tell me how to get drivers for my videocard
[04:59] <brian98> tyler_d: have you  ran iwconfig ?
[05:00] <Dr_willis> apt-get dist-upgrade i thought.. or theres som eother command also..
[05:00] <brian98> to see if it recs. any wireless extensions
[05:00] <Dr_willis> !upgrade
[05:00] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:00] <EvanIsaac> Upgrating by changing sources and the command line
[05:00] <EvanIsaac> but the thing is
[05:00] <Dr_willis> Hmm..
[05:00] <tyler_d>  brian98: no I have not
[05:00] <brian98> shel
[05:00] <EvanIsaac> let me talk to you in pm willis it'll be less chaotic
[05:00] <Phoenix1701> EvanIsaac: And the second line you're referring to is...?
[05:00] <brian98> shell even
[05:00] <EvanIsaac> the second one is
[05:00] <brian98> sudo iwconfig
[05:00] <_joe> hi all
[05:00] <_joe> where is my su command?
[05:00] <EvanIsaac> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:00] <TIM90> hahah you will get it sorted nexsan
[05:00] <wickedpuppy> _joe, use sudo
[05:00] <_joe> i tried
[05:00] <brian98> _joe gone fishing
[05:00] <tyler_d>  brian98: shows up as configured
[05:01] <brian98> ok
[05:01] <EvanIsaac> but it says that if the first one fails i shouldn't try the second or i'll get a corrupted system
[05:01] <nexsan> i wish, this is frustrating
[05:01] <Dr_willis> EvanIsaac,  sounds to me lik eyou are making a complex problem out of a simple task..  fix the sources, use  the dist-upgrade command.
[05:01] <_joe> but why can't i su to root
[05:01] <brian98> _joe sudo -i
[05:01] <ranek> Is there a place I can read a step by step on how to get Ubunto set up?
[05:01] <Phoenix1701> Oh!  I see.  I'm pretty sure that's basically the command that does the actual work, so yes, it's definitely necessary.
[05:01] <wickedpuppy> _joe, use sudo command
[05:01] <_joe> ooh ok
[05:01] <nexsan> i'll have to go into the bios and start disabling options to see which one is not letting me install
[05:01] <Dr_willis> EvanIsaac,  ive found it better to backup /home and  do a clean install.
[05:01] <_joe> it still says grub though
[05:01] <Phoenix1701> (apt-get update just gets an updated list of packages -- it's the dist-upgrade that installs them all)
[05:01] <Arrick> ubotu tell ranek about wiki
[05:01] <_joe> and some long line with vmlinuc
[05:01] <TIM90> tell me exactly what happends dude
[05:01] <EvanIsaac> and the first command that i put in looked like it went through well
[05:01] <_joe> i type "sudo -i" and it says boot failed
[05:01] <EvanIsaac> except that i got  this:
[05:01] <_joe> on my last linux this worked
[05:01] <nexsan> TIM90: talking to me?
[05:02] <EvanIsaac> cpufreq: change failed with new_state 1 and result 0
[05:02] <Arrick> how would I go about setting up 1 nic so that it doesnt listen to any ports, but the other one does?
[05:02] <TIM90> yep:)
[05:02] <brian98> tyler_d: if you run ifconfig has it got an ip?
[05:02] <tyler_d> arrick: desktop pc amd k7 build
[05:02] <nexsan> TIM90: When i boot up with the cd in the drive, i get the list of options of which i select text based...
[05:02] <EvanIsaac> so did that mean that my first command failed??
[05:02] <Phoenix1701> Hm...  now, don't take this advice on its own, because I wouldn't want to be responsible for your Linux installation burning down, but that doesn't strike me as a particularly bad message.
[05:02] <nexsan> everything loads
[05:02] <TIM90> ok
[05:02] <nexsan> until the list appears with all the hardware....
[05:02] <Phoenix1701> It says it failed with result 0, but 0 is usually "success"
[05:02] <Arrick> brian98, he woudl run iwconfig for wireless right?
[05:03] <brian98> Yes
[05:03] <TIM90> what hardware
[05:03] <nexsan> it stops at Parport0: PC Style at 0x378...
[05:03] <EvanIsaac> ok, well if the only thing it corrupts is linux then i don't care
[05:03] <_joe> no one knows what my problem is?
[05:03] <EvanIsaac> i just installed badger this morning
[05:03] <nexsan> i disabled the Parallel port
[05:03] <tyler_d> no ip address
[05:03] <brian98> arrick: then ifconfig will give you fino on IP's
[05:03] <_joe> i wish i hadn't erased windows
[05:03] <brian98> info even
[05:03] <EvanIsaac> so phoenix you say go for it?
[05:03] <nexsan> the line doesn't appear anymore, but it still freezes....
[05:03] <Phoenix1701> hehe.  I can pretty much guarantee it won't hose your system in any larger capacity than that, yes.
[05:03] <tyler_d> shows all the information applicable though
[05:03] <brian98> _joe
[05:03] <lmosher> I've got several wireless networks available at my office (each w/ different strengths). In the built-in wireless tool I can't seem to tell the relative strengths of each one, which means I have to try them individually until I get a strong signal. Is there a better tool?
[05:03] <WhiteDeth> how do I get Bluetooth working? :\
[05:03] <brian98> _joe don't stop just yet
[05:03] <tyler_d> eth1
[05:03] <TIM90> dont cennect stuff to the pc when installing
[05:03] <_joe> brian98: ok
[05:03] <Phoenix1701> If you have all relevant data from your Linux partition backed up and/or don't care if it gets vaporized, I'd say you're go for launch.
[05:03] <nexsan> TIM90: like what?
[05:03] <EvanIsaac> well if you're wrong you have to pay me the full value of this pc, which is 75$ ;)
[05:03] <nexsan> usb devices?
[05:04] <brian98> _joe so, tell me your exact situation
[05:04] <_joe> i was on redhat before, didn't have this trouble
[05:04] <_joe> but now my son gave me a ubuntu CD and said it would be better
[05:04] <Phoenix1701> lol.  You could just videotape it bursting into flames and dancing around on fire, and sell it on the Internet for more than that.
[05:04] <_joe> so i tried it
[05:04] <TIM90> yeh every thing that you have connected
[05:04] <_joe> but i don't think he really knows much about linux
[05:04] <brian98> _joe well, it usually is
[05:04] <nexsan> TIM90: what about mouse, keyboard....
[05:04] <_joe> cause this didn't happen with redhat
[05:04] <brian98> _joe and I'm impartial
[05:04] <EvanIsaac> i reallly realllllly hope this won't make my system unbootable
[05:04] <nexsan> TIM90: they are USB
[05:04] <brian98> _joe where are you @ now?
[05:04] <_joe> ok
[05:04] <Dr_willis> EvanIsaac,  it pays to backup :P
[05:05] <EvanIsaac> i don't have anything to backup
[05:05] <_joe> i'm sitting here and it says grub and then has several lines which i think is the shell prompt
[05:05] <TIM90> Well that too can add to your problems
[05:05] <_joe> some vmlinuc
[05:05] <_joe> and every time i try to sudo
[05:05] <EvanIsaac> i just want to know if it'll make the actual laptop unusable
[05:05] <Dr_willis> EvanIsaac,  then just do a clean install of the newer versions.
[05:05] <_joe> i get "boot error!"
[05:05] <mikere> How can I switch my xorg to use vesa instead of matrox (matrox is not refreshing properly when I scroll in web browsers)
[05:05] <_joe> maybe i screwed up the install
[05:05] <Phoenix1701> I'm fairly certain it won't, but whenever you find yourself uttering words like that, it's a good plan to make sure you aren't going to be up a creek without a paddle if it does.
[05:05] <nexsan> TIM90: there is nothing else connected except USB devices...
[05:05] <brian98> _joe so your on a different machine now?
[05:05] <_joe> yeah
[05:05] <brian98> _joe ok, you just installed
[05:05] <wickedpuppy> _joe, you are in grub ... not in the bash shell .. are you ?
[05:05] <EvanIsaac> i don't have any data i want to back up
[05:05] <nexsan> _joe sounds like a MBR problem
[05:05] <EvanIsaac> i just want the hardware intact
[05:05] <Asc> _joe: it sounds like it didn't boot and you're in the grub console wossname
[05:05] <_joe> i don't know, i thought it was my shell
[05:06] <EvanIsaac> so i can do a clean install if it doesn't work
[05:06] <Phoenix1701> The chances of upgrading to Dapper damaging your hardware is probably very near zero.
[05:06] <nexsan> Jesus come back and kill the penguins!
[05:06] <Alllleexx> Really need help installing a program in ubuntu, but having major problems trying to "decode" the instructions because im a stupid windows user.  I would paste the instructions but they are sorta long, if you could help me out it would be a great help, just send me a PM, cheers.
[05:06] <Asc> _joe: If you did a standard install, it should boot to a graphical login prompt
[05:06] <brian98> _joe type startx and see what errors you get
[05:06] <EvanIsaac> well lhere goes nothing
[05:06] <_joe> ok
[05:06] <Phoenix1701> About the worst I could see happening would be it dances around on your boot block and you end up having to reinstall from scratch
[05:06] <Phoenix1701> And even that is not very likely.
[05:06] <EvanIsaac> everybody cross your fingers
[05:06] <nexsan> ok, i'm gonna try this one more time, if this doesn't work, i'm gonna put ubuntu on hold until the next release
[05:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Alllleexx: What are you trying to install?
[05:06] <_joe> ok i just tried startx
[05:06] <nexsan> this is very frustrating....
[05:06] <Dr_willis> I could of done a clean install of dapper - in the time this questioning has been going on. :P
[05:07] <_joe> it did the same thing that sudo did
[05:07] <Alllleexx> shake 4 for linux
[05:07] <_joe> does ubuntu not come with sudo or startx?
[05:07] <Dr_willis> _joe,  it comes with both.
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> _joe: Sure it does.
[05:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Alllleexx: Sorry never heard of it..
[05:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !shake
[05:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:07] <Shadow_mil> I installed gnome on KUbuntu, does that mean I am using Ubuntu now?
[05:07] <wickedpuppy> _joe, let me just say i think your install is screwed ....
[05:07] <sturm_-> hi, i've been having a VERY annoying problem with ubuntu....i am coding a program of my own, and get a segmentation fault somehow (trying to find the bug), however, EVERY time i get that error, ubuntu crashes my computer completely...even if i run my program in gdb, i get a break when the error happens, and then if i try to quit, bam it freezes the computer again...any suggestions?? its getting quite annoying and hard to find that bug :(
[05:07] <Dr_willis> Shadow_mil,  means you installed Gnome on Kubuntu. :P
[05:07] <_joe> maybe i shoudl try restarting?
[05:07] <jwl007> fluxbox for the win
[05:07] <Dr_willis> Shadow_mil,  pick what gui to use from the login screen
[05:08] <mikere> How can I switch my xorg to use vesa instead of matrox (matrox is not refreshing properly when I scroll in web browsers) - sorry for repeat question but since xchat scrolls i have hard time reading here too =/
[05:08] <Phoenix1701> sturm_-: Wow.  Welcome back to 1986, eh?
[05:08] <Shadow_mil> Dr_willis: I do... gnome
[05:08] <TIM90> check the cd for defects and take your time on the install ,maybe do a live cd install,i found it fast and less head aches
[05:08] <Alllleexx> could i maybe send u the instructions and just take a look, like i understand some of it, but the rest im like..whats is that
[05:08] <_joe> could it be perhaps cause i see the windows boot screen for like a a second when the computer comes on that this is happening?
[05:08] <tonyyarusso> Shadow_mil: Means you have both, really.  Ubuntu and Kubuntu are the same thing really, just a matter of branding.
[05:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Alllleexx: Post a link...
[05:08] <sturm_-> yeah, its a real pain :/
[05:09] <_joe> nope, restart didn't help
[05:09] <_joe> still says "boot failed"
[05:09] <_joe> like, this menu comes up
[05:09] <wickedpuppy> _joe, reinstall
[05:09] <sturm_-> i have no clue why it freezes like that everytime, it just shouldn't...i haven't tried on another computer yet to see if the same but i suspect it will
[05:09] <bobby_> _joe: you are a fucking idiot
[05:09] <wickedpuppy> bobby_, language
[05:09] <wickedpuppy> !language
[05:09] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:09] <_joe> ive already installed like twice because first it didn't run any
[05:09] <_joe> then my son came to help
[05:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Shadow_mil: Just different window managers.. you can select which one at the option where you enter your login
[05:09] <Arrick> how would I go about setting up 1 nic so that it doesnt listen to any ports, but the other one does?
[05:09] <_joe> and he got it to run, but sudo didn't work so he told me to ask here
[05:09] <_joe> he's a linux guy down at mediacom
[05:10] <Phoenix1701> sturm_-: I'm not sure what the issue is, but does this happen *whenever* your app segfaults, or just this particular bug?  It's possible you found a bug in a system call somewhere.
[05:10] <Shadow_mil> :)
[05:10] <Jack_Sparrow> _joe: Did you run the livecd to install Ubuntu
[05:10] <EvanIsaac> yay
[05:10] <_joe> he says they use unbuntu there and that he gets help here
[05:10] <wickedpuppy> _joe, so you managed to get into ubuntu and ran bash but sudo doesn't work ?
[05:10] <EvanIsaac> i think it's working
[05:10] <_joe> i think so, jack
[05:10] <Phoenix1701> EvanIsaac: No pillars of flame, at least?
[05:10] <TIM90> joe set your hard drives up properly and in the bios
[05:10] <acidtonic> question, I hooked up my ubuntu machine to a different monitor at work, I didnt change any settings, but now that im home, i cannot run at 1600x1200 and I've noticed in my log that it cant read the edid data from my monitor
[05:10] <_joe> my son put in the unbuntu hard drive to install it
[05:10] <Alllleexx> jack i sent u the paste
[05:10] <_joe> so i think it's set up right
[05:11] <Jack_Sparrow> _joe: Did you get a working desktop and an icon that said Install..?
[05:11] <_joe> we did at first
[05:11] <_joe> but now sudo and startx don't work
[05:11] <sturm_-> Phoenix1701, happens everytime i get a segmentation fault, i had the same error last time except it was another place in my code, luckily i found it after a while...
[05:11] <_joe> so i guess i'll have to reinstall
[05:11] <TIM90> joe have windows on any off the drives
[05:11] <Asc> _joe: ....hard drive?  I'd suggest installing from a CD
[05:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Alllleexx: Post a link to your program in the channel
[05:11] <goethe> I can't print anything from Evince anymore... anybody have suggestions??
[05:11] <_joe> well i get a windows screen right at the beginning
[05:11] <brian98> _joe: sorry had to reboot there..
[05:11] <_joe> for like half a second
[05:11] <wickedpuppy> _joe, you are not in bash ... sudo and startx won't work ...
[05:11] <EvanIsaac> no pillars of flame....yet
[05:11] <_joe> unbuntu doesn't run bash?
[05:11] <_joe> but it is linux?
[05:11] <Asc> _joe: you are not in ubuntu
[05:11] <Alllleexx> ok
[05:11] <EvanIsaac> but i think the laptop is going to turn my legs into pillars of flame
[05:12] <sturm_-> last time it was because of a bad assignation of pointers, but this time i think it has to do with my vector class, however i haven't found yet, and it really takes time to reboot every time, its like i just get one shot and hope i fix it
[05:12] <ReinH> Hi folks
[05:12] <tonyyarusso> Although...I suppose theoretically a person could dd the install CD contents to a USB hard drive, true?
[05:12] <Phoenix1701> sturm_-: Well, let's get this down to the bare minimum case: if you create a simple C file like, int main() { int *foo = NULL; foo++; }, what happens when it segfaults?
[05:12] <Alllleexx> http://www.apple.com/shake/specs.html
[05:12] <Arrick> evening Tonus
[05:12] <Arrick> evening tonyyarusso
[05:12] <Arrick> sorry Tonus
[05:12] <sturm_-> hmm gimme a sec
[05:12] <wickedpuppy> _joe, my advice .. pls call your son back
[05:12] <_joe> Asc: no, i'm on my son's computer cause unbuntu won't run
[05:12] <TIM90> joe try a clean hard drive install ubuntu in it an enjoy,that will work
[05:12] <brian98> _joe: download the iso from ubuntu.com burn it, boot into the livecd enviroment and install on machine, should be smooth as a babys bottom
[05:12] <tonyyarusso> Arrick: Hey.
[05:12] <_joe> wickedpuppy, ok
[05:12] <sturm_-> good idea to test :)
[05:12] <EvanIsaac> it's like 150 degrees on my lap
[05:13] <Asc> _joe: On the computer where you are trying to run ubuntu, it is not in ubuntu.
[05:13] <goethe> anybody know how to fix evince to print again??
[05:13] <Arrick> tonyyarusso, do you know how I would go about setting up 1 nic so that it doesnt listen to any ports, but the other one does?
[05:13] <spycat> hi all
[05:13] <_joe> Asc: well i think it is, but it just says "boot failed"
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> Arrick: Can't say I do.
[05:13] <Asc> _joe: better yet, download the alternate install CD so you don't have to boot to a graphical environment.
[05:13] <Arrick> ok
[05:13] <Asc> _joe: Do you know what a boot loader is?
[05:13] <brian98> _joe: download the iso from ubuntu.com burn it, boot into the livecd enviroment and install on machine, should be smooth as a babys bottom
[05:14] <TIM90> and try repairing the windows hard drive ,stick your windows cd in the  drive and Wait for it to boot then press f6
[05:14] <_joe> asc, i don't think so
[05:14] <_joe> asc, is it the windows screen that comes up for a second?
[05:14] <_joe> brian98, ok, will do
[05:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Play Nice, see everyone tomorrow
[05:15] <Arrick> tonyyarusso, what I am trying to do, ist set up this ubuntu box so that all incoming and outgoing on one connection is allowed (network side) and all incoming from the other is blocked except what i specify (internet side)
[05:15] <Asc> _joe: there's a place on the hard drive that stores a program that tells the computer what operating system to boot, and where it is.  The one that comes with Ubuntu (Grub) has a command line
[05:15] <Asc> _joe: it *sounds like* the computer that you're trying to boot Ubuntu on, is in Grub's command line
[05:16] <iLLf8d> _joe, you sure your computer came with that its an option =P
[05:16] <TIM90> thats what i been trying to tell him ASC
[05:16] <tonyyarusso> Arrick: Makes sense, and a good idea.  If you work it out, a wiki page on the subject would be good (I assume you've already checked for one).  Good luck!
[05:16] <Asc> TIM90: Yeah....
[05:16] <_joe> asc, aha! i think i saw something about drub
[05:16] <_joe> *grub
[05:16] <Arrick> thanks tonyyarusso
[05:16] <Arrick> !grub
[05:16] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:17] <TIM90> Asc is there a command to repair his Grub loader
[05:17] <_joe> maybe all i need is to repair my grub loader?
[05:17] <brian98> tim90: why would that happen just after installing ubuntu?
[05:18] <Asc> TIM90: I usually do that by invoking dark gods.
[05:18] <EvanIsaac> maybe while dapper is installing you guys can tell me how i can get my netgear WG111T USB Wireless Adapter to work
[05:18] <Arrick> brian98, happens very often
[05:18] <iLLf8d> brian98, a virus?
[05:18] <tonyyarusso> TIM90, _joe: that repair can be done from the Recovering... wiki link instructions.
[05:18] <TIM90> well he has windows on it
[05:18] <brian98> joe_ http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/11/how-to-repair-corrupt-mbr-and-boot.html
[05:18] <iLLf8d> must be spyware
[05:18] <_joe> maybe spyware
[05:18] <_joe> i had a lot recently
[05:18] <_joe> that's one reason we erased windows
[05:18] <_joe> but redhat seemed to have gotten some too
[05:18] <whatsreal> EvanIsaac: you are probably going to need ndiswrapper to do it
[05:18] <brian98> _joe that link should do you
[05:18] <brian98> http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/11/how-to-repair-corrupt-mbr-and-boot.html
[05:19] <vbgunz> mplayer is not in the repos, do I have to build i ?
[05:19] <Asc> TIM90: Actually I have no idea why it's booting to Grub.  Installing windows after Linux should just overwrite the bootloader with its' own, or break it.  Eh....
[05:19] <TIM90> thanks brian98 ill have a look at that :-*
[05:19] <Arrick> man I lost my voice on freenode and havent been voiced in the last 45 minutes
[05:19] <jrib> vbgunz: mplayer is in dapper multiverse
[05:19] <_joe> thanks, brian98
[05:19] <Asc> _joe: did you try to install windows just before this happened?
[05:19] <_joe> i will check it out
[05:19] <jrib> ubotu: tell vbgunz about multiverse
[05:19] <Arrick> whazzup jrib `
[05:19] <vbgunz> jrib: I have all repos enabled...
[05:19] <jrib> Arrick: hi
[05:19] <brian98> joe_ acutally type # grub-install /dev/hda
[05:19] <brian98> without the #
[05:19] <jrib> vbgunz: pastebin your sources.list please
[05:19] <vbgunz> ok
[05:19] <_joe> brian98, will that command work even though i don't have a feedora or noppix cd?
[05:20] <Arrick> later guys an gals
[05:20] <_joe> like the article talks about?
[05:20] <brian98> yes
[05:20] <vbgunz> jrib: http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/2020
[05:20] <_joe> ok
[05:21] <sturm_-> Phoenix1701, hmm im having trouble generating a segmentation fault, any idea of an easy code that will create one?
[05:21] <EvanIsaac> maybe while dapper is installing you guys can tell me how i can get my netgear WG111T USB Wireless Adapter to work
[05:21] <EvanIsaac> no you haven't
[05:21] <TIM90> Later arrick
[05:21] <EvanIsaac> I've been waiting forever though
[05:21] <jrib> vbgunz: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mplayer,  pastebin the result
[05:21] <EvanIsaac> whatsreal you there?
[05:21] <Phoenix1701> sturm_-: The code I posted just above ought to do the trick.
[05:21] <eternalswd> vbgunz, if you want proprietary stuff in mplayer, you're better off building from source.  it's really not that hard, and if you use checkinstall, it will make a .deb file for you and install that so that you can uninstall from synaptic
[05:21] <Asc> _joe: when you booted, did it print a message like "GNU GRUB version x.xx (xxxx lower/ xxxxxx upper memory)"?
[05:21] <vbgunz> jrib: ok
[05:21] <Phoenix1701> int main() { int *foo = NULL; foo++; }
[05:21] <Phoenix1701> Oh, actually, sorry.
[05:21] <Phoenix1701> int main() { int *foo = NULL; *foo++; }
[05:22] <Phoenix1701> That * is important. :)
[05:22] <sturm_-> Phoenix1701, nope it doesn't create any error...
[05:22] <EvanIsaac> whatsreal: you there?
[05:22] <whatsreal> EvanIsaac: yeah, you are going to need to install ndiswrapper through apt-get or another package manager of your choice and grab the .inf file from the netgear site
[05:22] <whatsreal> I believe
[05:22] <EvanIsaac> i think the cd has a .inf in it
[05:22] <_joe> asc, i think something like that
[05:22] <EvanIsaac> how do iuse ndiswrapper?
[05:23] <vbgunz> jrib: sorry, updating was all I needed
[05:23] <vbgunz> jrib: thanks :)
[05:23] <jrib> vbgunz: np
[05:23] <spuddogg> Anyone here know how to read the info that is in the packets grabbed by airodump?
[05:23] <whatsreal> EvanIsaac: let me get you a link
[05:23] <EvanIsaac> ok thanks
[05:23] <TIM90> esc i think a reinstall without windows in the way would sort this out ?
[05:24] <EvanIsaac> i'm going to go get some chocolate to take away the pain
[05:24] <OmniD> whoever recommended me to update my dealie in vmware
[05:24] <brian98> joe_ I thnk at this stage a reinstall is the easiest *duck(
[05:24] <OmniD> thanks
[05:24] <Asc> _joe: Yes, that sounds like the grub prompt.  I have to leave right now, but try installing from a CD.  Or finding someone who knows how to use the GRUB prompt to boot.
[05:24] <whatsreal> EvanIsaac: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation will get you to a site that helps with ndiswrapper
[05:24] <EvanIsaac>  hooolly crap i pulled out the adapter and the metal burned my finger
[05:25] <vbgunz> eternalswd: I do wish to play some proprietary stuff. I know how to make debs and already have the codecs, e.g. gxine and totem play fine. Do you think I should still build from source?
[05:25] <sturm_-> Phoenix1701, ok i created a segmentation fault but it didn't crash this time with a simple main()...
[05:25] <TIM90> lter Asc
[05:25] <whatsreal> EvanIsaac: yeah, my dlink usb adapter gets pretty hot some times
[05:26] <sturm_-> bah, ill go on and try to find it somehow, its just really annoying to freeze the whole computer
[05:26] <_joe> asc, ok, thanks for the help :)
[05:26] <TIM90> ENJOY
[05:27] <Phoenix1701> sturm_-: Check to see if maybe you're doing something really funky in your app, preferably something involving the kernel in some way.
[05:27] <sturm_-> yeah
[05:28] <sturm_-> its weird because i run it in gdb, and then i get segfault, so i do ctrl+z, and stop the app, so then its ok it doesn't freeze, but the 3d app is still open
[05:28] <eternalswd> vbgunz, mplayer has a different codec set than gxine/totem called win32codecs but that is not in synaptic.  if you follow the guide at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187709 you can compile your own, you don't need to do the x264 stuff and replace "make install" with checkinstall.  read pages 12 and 13 of the thread,  I have a link to the full tarball source of mplayer as well as some tips on the configuration line.
[05:28] <sturm_-> and then if i go to shutdown the computer, it tries to close it and freezes on its own
[05:28] <sturm_-> so basically if i do ctrl+z each time im kinda "safe" until i try to shutdown, really really weird
[05:28] <brian98> joe_ I'm out of here, you ok ?
[05:29] <vbgunz> I have w32codecs installed. Will check out the thred anyhow :)
[05:29] <_joe> brian98, i will survive! i'm in the process of running grub-install /dev/sda1 right now!
[05:30] <Telroth_Plushie|> sturm_-, ctrl+z halts, ctrl+c quits.
[05:30] <malice_> ? I deleted my network connection icon from the top right and it was near my calander/time now I went to add it back and it is in the middle how do I put it back?
[05:30] <malice_> I tried move
[05:30] <sturm_-> oh yeah if i do ctrl+c it freezes ;) so i halt it and i can keep on going and start another gdb again...eh
[05:30] <malice_> that does not work
[05:30] <Telroth_Plushie|> sturm_-, kill `pidof gdb`
[05:30] <malice_> it never puts it back to the speaker
[05:31] <goethe> where/who can i ask about evince??  Evince won't print anymore...
[05:31] <Telroth_Plushie|> sturm_-, kill -kill `pidof gdb` <-- it can't freeze this, it will be foreced to die
[05:31] <sturm_-> nope, doesn't work i tried, it doesn't kill it, it stays there
[05:31] <eternalswd> vbgunz, with something like mplayer, there's processor specific code that makes it worth your while to compile your own.
[05:31] <sturm_-> kill -kill pidofgdb ?
[05:31] <sturm_-> hmm
[05:31] <Telroth_Plushie|> sturm_-, have to use backticks
[05:31] <Telroth_Plushie|> `pidof gdb`
[05:31] <Telroth_Plushie|> or
[05:31] <Telroth_Plushie|> get the pid from ps
[05:32] <Telroth_Plushie|> ps aux | grep gdb
[05:32] <brian98> :0
[05:32] <Telroth_Plushie|> then kill -kill <pid>
[05:32] <brian98> joe_ and it looks like it's doing something? Happy daze if so!
[05:32] <lupine_85> "[04:32]  <-- _: malice_ adds the nick and %2 the reasonRemote closed the connection has left this server (%2)."
[05:32] <lupine_85> is that right?
[05:32] <vbgunz> eternalswd: ok, will look into it, I know how to build like a novice ;)
[05:32] <_joe> brian98, it might be...
[05:32] <lupine_85> looks like bad translation team effort to me
[05:33] <brian98> joe_ I hope it's ok!
[05:33] <brian98> joe_ If not go back to plan a
[05:33] <brian98> joe_ http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[05:34] <_joe> ok thx :)
[05:34] <eternalswd> vbgunz, I compiled my first program two weeks ago, so I'm pretty new as well, but well documented procedures make things pretty easy.
[05:35] <mikere> Welp, hand editing xorg.conf and replacing mga" with vesa" succesfully switched to the vesa driver for me
[05:35] <ranek> How can I get the newest version of Ubuntu?
[05:35] <ranek> I seem to have an older version
[05:35] <mikere> Now for question #2: anyone here been able to get a Lexmark Z33 working with cups?
[05:36] <mikere> ranek: you should be able to upgrade from Synaptic
[05:36] <Flannel> !tell ranek about upgrade
[05:36] <Flannel> ranek: steps are slightly different depending on what old version youre using, that page explains it all though
[05:36] <Sturm___> guess what :P
[05:37] <eternalswd> if I have a proxy server, say server.com:80 that I can connect to from my ubuntu machine, say ubuntu.org with a windows machine ssh'ing to ubuntu.org, would "ssh -L 80:server.com:80 ubuntu.org" allow me to set my windows proxy as localhost:80?
 http://www.hackaday.com/2005/08/31/how-to-ssh-http-proxy-setup/
[05:39] <variant> lo all, how do you set the default video player? I want all video files including dvds to open with vlc
[05:39] <Alien|Freak> hey guys.. anyone know how big the ubuntu mirror is?
[05:39] <mikere> Im at a friends trying to set him up with Ubuntu after his non-genuine Windows became too much to deal with.  Only stopper for getting him converted to Linux atm is getting his Lexmark Z33 printer up - anyone got any suggestions?
[05:39] <lmosher_> I need to install GTK+-2.0 and and GTK+-devel. I'm pretty sure I have gtk installed, but what are the devel packages called?
[05:39] <spuddogg> Anyone here good with aircrack-ng?
[05:39] <EvanIsaac> how long should a 5.1 to 6.06 update take
[05:39] <brian98> variant: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34423
[05:40] <Alien|Freak> EvanIsaac, depends on the bandwidth
[05:40] <TuxthePenguin84> EvanIsaac, tooke me about 2 hours once
[05:40] <Flannel> EvanIsaac: 5.10 to 6.06 would depend entirely on your bandwidth, and how much software you had installed
[05:40] <Sturm___> Phoenix1701, yeah, kill kill kills my computer ;) there's no way i can touch to that process , the only way i can deal with it is to put it to halt, and then once im done, i have to manually shut down the computer (hardware way...)
[05:40] <EvanIsaac> i only had the bundled software
  strange q, why? u thinking of setting one up
[05:41] <brian98> ?
[05:41] <variant> brian98: yeah i know you can do that.. i am looking for amore global settins so i dont have to do that for every video type under the sun
[05:41] <EvanIsaac> and my screen just went blank
[05:41] <Alien|Freak> brian98, yeah...
[05:41] <ranek> How do I install the drivers for my Graphics Card?
[05:41] <Alien|Freak> if we have enough space.. I'd like to
[05:41] <EvanIsaac> but i can still hear the HD working
[05:41] <Telroth_Plushie|> ranek, nvidia or ati ?
[05:41] <Alien|Freak> I know we don't have enough space for the full debian mirror..
[05:41] <ranek> Nvidia
[05:41] <Alien|Freak> but Ubuntu would be nice
[05:41] <Telroth_Plushie|> ranek, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:42] <EvanIsaac> should the screen go blank during the update?
[05:42] <Flannel> EvanIsaac: screen went blank due to inactivity, probably, normal screensaver sort of thing
[05:42] <ranek> Thanks!
[05:42] <Telroth_Plushie|> then
[05:42] <EvanIsaac> but it was updating
[05:42] <EvanIsaac> or is
[05:42] <Telroth_Plushie|> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[05:42] <Telroth_Plushie|> then reboot
  No Idea :)
[05:42] <Telroth_Plushie|> you should see the nvidia logo when X starts
[05:42] <Flannel> EvanIsaac: right, it most likely still is, blank display is just turning off the screen, not the computer
[05:42] <EvanIsaac> 
[05:43] <zer0efx> Evening. For some reason when I try to copy a file to /usr/src/alsa it says i dont have permission to write to that folder? how can I copy files to these main folders?
[05:43] <EvanIsaac> i touched the touchpad
[05:43] <ranek> Ok then, Thanks!, How do I whisper in this program?
[05:43] <EvanIsaac> still blank
[05:43] <spuddogg> Anyone here good with aircrack-ng suite?
[05:43] <TuxthePenguin84> Telroth,Plushiel, does that give you 2D or 3D support?
 sudo cp
[05:43] <Alien|Freak> :(  my univ. main lug users are either ubuntu or gentoo.. gentoo is easy... and works pretty nicely... not sure about ubuntu...   I guess I'll ask uncle google
[05:43] <Telroth_Plushie|> TuxthePenguin84, 3d
[05:43] <Flannel> EvanIsaac: with just the base system, I believe its about 650MB of packages.
[05:43] <Telroth_Plushie|> ranek, /msh <nick> <msg>
[05:43] <krazykit> Alien|Freak: gentoo is not easy... it's a pain when stuff breaks or doesn't compile.
[05:43] <Telroth_Plushie|> i.e. /msg Telroth_Plushie| HELLO!
[05:43] <EvanIsaac> ok
[05:44] <Telroth_Plushie|> but you have to register your nickname first
[05:44] <brian98>  good night all
[05:44] <Telroth_Plushie|> /msg nickserv help reigster
[05:44] <zer0efx> Thanks brian98
[05:44] <Dekkard> is there a command to update the font cache?
[05:45] <jrib> Dekkard: fc-cache I think
[05:45] <EvanIsaac> well i really hope this blank screen isn't a bad thing
[05:45] <ranek> When I typed sudo nvidia-xconfig It said unknown command
[05:45] <bordin> nickserv help register
[05:45] <Alien|Freak> krazykit, I meant as far as setting up a mirror
[05:45] <wickedpuppy> bordin, /msg nick help register ...
[05:46] <jrib> ranek: you have nvidia-glx installed?
[05:46] <Alien|Freak> plus it builds the mirror as we go.... so if the package isn't there yet... it'll download it.. and add it to the repo so the next person that fetches it grabs the cached package
[05:46] <ranek> I typed this before that command, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:47] <jrib> ranek: and what did it say?
[05:47] <bl4cktone> Hi Everybody!
[05:47] <muaddib> Any recommendations on parition a disk that is 900GB
[05:48] <ranek> Hmm I can't seem to whisper people.
[05:48] <jrib> ranek: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:48] <crimsun> ranek: you're not identified.
[05:49] <crimsun> (this network requires registration and identification for that)
[05:49] <EvanIsaac> any answer to why the screen has been blank for such a long time?
[05:49] <bl4cktone> Anyone know of some kind of log in 6.06 that would permit me to see why when I come back from a few hours away from my laptop it comes up at the loginscreen?
[05:50] <wickedpuppy> i can think of /var/log/messages
[05:50] <tchung> hi, I am trying to install sun-java5-plugin. Does anyone know how to search for it on Synaptic?
[05:51] <ranek> So, how do I register?
[05:51] <tchung> I have tried "sun java" and nothing good shows on
[05:51] <jrib> ubotu: tell ranek about register
[05:51] <jrib> tchung: have you enabled multiverse?
[05:51] <wickedpuppy> ./msg nickserv register password
[05:51] <tchung> jrib: yea.
[05:51] <kronos> hello
[05:51] <EvanIsaac> if i unplug m y laptop from the ac charger, move it upstairs and plug it back in will it screw up my upgrade
[05:51] <tchung> jrib: reloaded my list
[05:51] <IcemanV9> !java > tchung
[05:51] <thompa> does anyone know what creating a 100M /boot partition at install do?
[05:51] <EvanIsaac> in the middle of th eupgrading process
[05:51] <jrib> tchung: what arch?
[05:51] <kronos> can anyone tell me from where can i get the latest kernel amd64 ?
[05:52] <mister_roboto> tchung: sun-java5-plugin?
[05:52] <tchung> mister_roboto: yea
[05:52] <Skarr> hey guys
[05:52] <tchung> jrib: arch?
[05:52] <jrib> tchung: architecture
[05:52] <thompa> how can i view if other partitions are empty?
[05:52] <jrib> tchung: i386, amd64, ppc?
[05:53] <tchung> i386
[05:53] <AngryElf> is there a bash username variable -- or some way i can get the user that ran  my script into a variable?
[05:53] <bl4cktone> !pastebin
[05:53] <jrib> tchung: pastebin your sources.list please
[05:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:53] <subpar> alright, this is a silly question, but I forgot where fstab ws located
[05:53] <jrib> AngryElf: umm there is $USER, not sure if that will give you what you are asking though
[05:53] <Dr_willis>  /etc like most config files
[05:53] <IcemanV9> EvanIsaac: maybe .. logical thought would be wait until it finishes upgrading first before move it to upstairs
[05:53] <subpar> so /etc/fstab correct?
[05:53] <tchung> I think I have got the page to help me .... thank you jrib :-)
[05:53] <wickedpuppy> AngryElf, you can always create a second bash script in which it runs the the script you want from the argument it gets
[05:53] <jrib> tchung: k, np
[05:54] <ranek> So I registered now, so I should be able to whisper people, correct?
[05:54] <kronos> can anyone tell me from where can i get the latest kernel amd64 ?
[05:54] <AngryElf> ls
[05:54] <wickedpuppy> ranek, message ...
[05:54] <AngryElf> bah
[05:55] <flaco> hi.. anyone has installed the ipw2200-ap driver?
[05:55] <ranek> wickedpuppy, Testing
[05:55] <EvanIsaac> it seems as if the updating is unpacking and then removing again
[05:56] <wickedpuppy> ranek, no i mean usually we call it private message .. not whisper .. in case you ask help from other channels
[05:56] <wickedpuppy> and they wonder what you mean
[05:56] <freeport> is there w32codes under amd64?
[05:58] <SilentDissonance> hello :)
[05:58] <twopoint0> hello ^^
[05:58] <twopoint0> anyone out there able to help me navigate the repository to get Enlightenment?
[05:59] <mythtvbox> twopoint0
[05:59] <twopoint0> hi
[05:59] <mythtvbox> open up synaptic and browse
[05:59] <mythtvbox> if you dont have your repos setup check out the ubuntu guide
[06:00] <mythtvbox> you can find it by typing ubuntu guide in google
[06:00] <IcemanV9> apt-cache search enlightenment
[06:00] <twopoint0> I was getting some help on the forum, and I was told...
[06:00] <mythtvbox> or do what iceman said
[06:00] <OmniD> How do I get unrar?
[06:00] <mythtvbox> OmniD
[06:00] <twopoint0> sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list Remove the # in front of the repositories.Save and exit.Re-start synaptic
[06:00] <OmniD> ?
[06:00] <_Dink> apt-get install unrar ?
[06:00] <mythtvbox> go install automatix
[06:00] <SilentDissonance> bit of an odd question...  I have an Athlon processor in my machine.  This is a fresh install of Ubuntu, so it's running the 386 core.  A package I wish to use states it requires i run the i686 core...  Am I right to assume that this package won't work for me?
[06:01] <mythtvbox> it will install support for unrar
[06:01] <mythtvbox> getautomatix.com or .org i think
[06:01] <IcemanV9> if you want to know what's the version --> apt-cache policy enlightenment
[06:01] <OmniD> _Dink, Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:01] <OmniD> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:01] <OmniD> is only available from another source
[06:01] <OmniD> E: Package unrar has no installation candidate
[06:01] <twopoint0> but i run sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list, and i don't see a # to delete
[06:01] <mythtvbox> Has anyone here ever gotten lirc to work with imon support?
[06:01] <Phoenix1701> SilentDissonance: If it's specifying that tightly, chances are it won't work, that's correct.
[06:01] <variant> OmniD: there is abunch of unrar implementations
[06:01] <variant> OmniD: try unrar-gpl
[06:02] <SilentDissonance> Phoenix1701: thank you.  would it be better, in general, if I switched over to the k7 core?
[06:02] <hav0k> can anyone help me with NetworkManagerApplet?
[06:02] <OmniD> variant, E: Couldn't find package unrar-gpl
[06:02] <_Dink> might have to add a repository or 2
[06:02] <_Dink> not sure which one has it
[06:02] <Phoenix1701> SilentDissonance: I don't have any hard data on that, but I'm pretty confident that the answer is a distinct "yes".
[06:02] <OmniD> I thought I had universal and multiverse enabled though
[06:02] <mythtvbox> OmniD go install automatix
[06:02] <variant> OmniD: search for it
[06:03] <variant> OmniD: apt-cache search unrar
[06:03] <_Dink> its probably in seveas
[06:03] <kvtruong_> hello
[06:03] <mythtvbox> it is a program for installing 3rd party programs such as .ace and .rar support
[06:03] <Phoenix1701> It'll definitely improve performance, and has no discernable down sides that I know of.
[06:03] <foureight84> does broadcom 57xx nic work out of the box with dapper?
[06:03] <hav0k> Network manager applet wont show wireless stuff, it only has wired connection
[06:03] <SilentDissonance> Phoenix1701: lol i figured as much.  I see it on the install CD, and since I've only installed one other thing here, it's not a big deal if it hoses.  The question is, of course, which should I pick?
[06:03] <foureight84> i can't get mine to work
[06:03] <variant> Rookie-: yes
[06:03] <bl4cktone> I was wondering if anyone could help me with this, When I leave Ubuntu alone for an extended period of time I come back and it's at the login screen.  I've attached a copy of my var/log/messages http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24955 Thanks guys!
[06:04] <Phoenix1701> Between 686 and k7, you mean?  Or...?
[06:04] <linlin> my ssh sessions to my server are timing out after a period of inactivity, only a few minutes, what could be the problem?
[06:04] <IcemanV9> hav0k: right-click on the icon .. it should show two check boxes (wired AND wireless)
[06:04] <variant> linlin: you need to set the ssh timeout variable
[06:04] <SilentDissonance> ahh, sorry.  Ubuntu CD in the drive, Synaptic up and browsing from the CD.  Got a bunch of kernels listed to install, which should I choose?
[06:04] <hav0k> IcemanV9, yeah, it should, but only wired is there
[06:04] <Dekkard> is there a package that installs default fonts and cursors?
[06:05] <SilentDissonance> I assume it'll be a -k7 one, but there's quite a few versions listed here.
[06:05] <OmniD> mythtvbox, hey synaptic could not find automatix
[06:05] <warlock> cp: cannot create regular file `/home/sbnc/sbnc/tickle.so': Permission denied
[06:05] <Phoenix1701> bl4cktone: I'd be willing to bet good money this is the issue: "ipw2200: Firmware error detected.  Restarting."
[06:05] <warlock> Anyone know how to fix this?
[06:05] <mythtvbox> OmniD
[06:05] <mythtvbox> open up a webbrowser
[06:05] <fowlduck> warlock: sudo?
[06:05] <mythtvbox> and search in google for get automatix
[06:05] <warlock> hmm
[06:05] <linlin> i see no timeout settings in /ertc/ssh/sshd_config variant
[06:05] <Phoenix1701> SilentDissonance: Ah.  I think the latest one is 2.6.15-27
[06:05] <variant> please dont use automatix, its lazy and will break your system and we will all laugh at you for using automatix :P
[06:05] <Dekkard> warlock to edit any file not in yer home dir you need to sudo
[06:05] <foureight84> is the broadcom 57xx nic supported in dapper?
[06:05] <mythtvbox> you will go to the automatix website and it has simple instructions on how to get it installed
[06:06] <mythtvbox> its really easy to do
[06:06] <fowlduck> warlock: you don't have permission to create files in that directory, get permissions or use root permissions
[06:06] <IcemanV9> hav0k: it happened to me last week. i went CRAZY trying to figure it out and no answer from forums for a few days. then, all of sudden, it came back on its own. WEIRD.
[06:06] <mythtvbox> but you will be thankfull i showed ya
[06:06] <warlock> Dekkard - well. I'm trying to do "make install" as the user 'sbnc' - can I change the permissions through root so sbnc has access to it?
[06:06] <mythtvbox> it will help get lots of stuff setup on your system with no pain
[06:06] <hav0k> well, it's never been there
[06:06] <SilentDissonance> thank you Phoenix1701.  I'll give it a go, if I'm not back shortly, it wasn't correct.  lol
[06:06] <hav0k> not since i installed it
[06:06] <Phoenix1701> :)
[06:06] <bl4cktone> Phoenix1701: I just forgot I didn't have my new WEP key put into it, do you think that would cause a Firmware Error or would you think it's more a driver issue?
[06:06] <subpar_> ahh, Xorg looks so much better than full screen console
[06:06] <stikif> is the compiz stuff still broken, i am getting errors when i try to apt-get install cgwd
[06:07] <Dekkard> warlock have you tried doing sudo make install?
[06:07] <warlock> as sbnc?
[06:07] <Dekkard> yes
[06:07] <warlock> lets see
[06:07] <Phoenix1701> bl4cktone: Well, a firmware error is definitely a low-level problem...  driver would be a good guess.  Do you recognize ipw2000 as some particular device?
[06:07] <Phoenix1701> er, ipw2200 rather
[06:07] <warlock> sbnc@zkillz:~/sbnc-1.1/tickle$ sudo make install
[06:07] <warlock> sudo: unable to lookup zkillz via gethostbyname()
[06:07] <fowlduck> warlock: make install is the only step you need root permissions for
[06:07] <OmniD> wow
[06:07] <IcemanV9> hav0k: try to go wireless first before you turn the box on?
[06:07] <OmniD> why has no one told me about automatix before
[06:07] <warlock> k
[06:08] <hav0k> alright, ill try that... ill be back in a sec
[06:08] <Phoenix1701> If that's your wireless card, then it might very well be as you suspect...  though it shouldn't reboot your box just because it doesn't have a WEP key, obviously.  lol
[06:08] <bl4cktone> stikif: I just install compiz a day or two ago here is the link I used to do it with
[06:08] <bl4cktone> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[06:08] <IcemanV9> !automatix > OmniD
[06:08] <Dr_willis> OmniD,  best to NOT use automatix
[06:08] <IcemanV9> that's why. :)
[06:08] <OmniD> I know what it is NOW
[06:08] <warlock> worked - but still getting errors, though its the BNC software called sbnc - anyone know anything about it?
[06:08] <bl4cktone> Phoenix1701: yeah it's my Internal Wireless Card for my laptop
[06:09] <OmniD> Dr_willis, why?
[06:09] <OmniD> Is it dangerous?
[06:09] <fowlduck> warlock: if the error is the gethostbyname() it's a DNS error.  Make sure your hostname is included in /etc/hosts
[06:09] <Dr_willis> OmniD,  it has a rather Large and Flame Filled History.. In short.. it can trash the system.
[06:09] <Phoenix1701> bl4cktone: Try the WEP key thing first; if it keeps happening, you might look into that driver (do a forum search for it, perhaps) and see if there are better drivers or more generic ones that still give you the functionality you need but don't cause your computer to spontaneously combust at random intervals.
[06:09] <stikif> bl4cktone, thanks
[06:09] <WhiteDeth> someone please help me with making Bluetooth work :(
[06:10] <warlock> fowlduck - what do you mean? how should the line look like?
[06:10] <OmniD> Dr_willis, thenw hy would anyone recommend me to use it??
[06:10] <OmniD> *then why
[06:10] <warlock> 127.0.0.1	localhost.localdomain	localhost	cow <- is what I got atm.
[06:10] <fowlduck> add zkillz to the end of that line
[06:10] <warlock> ok
[06:10] <Phoenix1701> OmniD: Because "can" isn't the same as "always does", and as you've seen the potential benefits of using it are compelling.
[06:10] <Dr_willis> OmniD,  you DONT see people in here normally reccomending you to use it.
[06:10] <Madpilot> OmniD, automatix is still popular for some reason - why exactly still puzzles many people...
[06:10] <MinisterPolite> OmniD:  its much more stable now, people here would rather you learn how to do what it does manually
[06:10] <Phoenix1701> I've never been tempted to, because I run Kubuntu and I get the impression Automatix will basically install all of Gnome and then merrily do its thing.
[06:11] <bl4cktone> stikif: No problem man I'd go to #ubuntu-xgl if you need more help but that writeup did the trick for me
[06:11] <Dr_willis> EasyUbuntu works very well..but even it is getting less needed.
[06:11] <warlock> sbnc@zkillz:~/sbnc-1.1/tickle$ sudo make install
[06:11] <warlock> Password:
[06:11] <warlock> then it dies..
[06:11] <mike-ekim> how can I set this soit can do console login instead of graphical
[06:11] <zer0efx> I'm trying to get my sound working, and I have to do some alsa work.. when i am compiling the files, i get this error "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH"
[06:11] <mike-ekim> cause it stalls when tis loading the graphical login
[06:11] <IcemanV9> cli is always the BEST to install stuff
[06:11] <Phoenix1701> zer0efx: Sounds like you don't have the build-essentials package installed.
[06:12] <OmniD> Madpilot, isn't it still easy to use? That's why people would use it.
[06:12] <khaije1> anyone know/heard of any linux-based ebay automation tools?
[06:12] <bl4cktone> stikif: I've been running compiz for about a week now it never fails to impress the peeps ;)  I just can't get enough of it
[06:12] <Madpilot> OmniD, yes, it's easy to break your system with it ;)
[06:12] <zer0efx> Phoenix1701: alright thanks.. i'll go look for that
[06:12] <hav0k> IcemanV9, it didnt work... it only had wired
[06:12] <OmniD> Madpilot, I was recommended to use it because unrar is failing install
[06:12] <khaije1> I'm tring to help a non-profit with selling some of their excess inventory :-)
[06:12] <mike-ekim> anyone
[06:12] <mike-ekim> What do I need to do/edit to have Ubuntu boot in and have console login rather than graphical
[06:12] <mike-ekim> ??
[06:12] <freeport> somebody know how to play rm/avi/rmvb under ubunt_amd64
[06:13] <mister_roboto> Phoenix1701: that's not true, it will install many optional packages, some from non-standard repositories. it's not just a matter of installing all of gnome. it will put in all the codecs to play all video and music files/ play dvd's and a lot of other things. stuff that is kind of a ping to do manually
[06:13] <Madpilot> OmniD, unrar is in Universe, I think - if you've got Universe enabled properly, unrar should install just fine
[06:13] <MinisterPolite> khaije1 email me mepolite@gmail.com
[06:13] <hav0k> is there any way to edit it... and add in the eth1
[06:13] <OmniD> Madpilot, it is not there
[06:13] <Madpilot> !info unrar
[06:13] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[06:13] <khaije1> MinisterPolite: thanks, but why is that?
[06:13] <OmniD> Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:13] <Madpilot> OmniD, sorry, it's in Multiverse - do you have that enabled?
[06:13] <OmniD> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:13] <OmniD> is only available from another source
[06:13] <OmniD> E: Package unrar has no installation candidate
[06:13] <stikif> bl4cktone, are you using it with multiple monitors, i read that could cause problems with it
[06:13] <SeraVitae> hi there
[06:13] <OmniD> Yes
[06:13] <OmniD> I have both enabled
[06:14] <OmniD> Is there any way I could look up to be sure though?
[06:14] <MinisterPolite> khaije1: i may be able to help you unload some of that equipment
[06:14] <Phoenix1701> mister_roboto: Oh, I'm aware of what it's *designed* to do...  but it assumes you're running Ubuntu with Gnome, and if you're not, it'll install everything it needs to get all its Gnomy bits working, which turns out to be a large portion of Gnome.
[06:14] <IcemanV9> hav0k: i don't know. it's all i know. i haven't figure it out on adding eth1 to it. at least, mine got it back for now.
[06:14] <SeraVitae> Im trying to install dapper on a 433mhz celeron with 192mb of ram, the live cd boots fine, but it is EXTREMELY slow to do anything, harddrive and cdrom are going full blast but i just chose english language for install and it's taking about 20 minutes and it's still sitting there.
[06:14] <SeraVitae> is this because the pc is slow or do i have a faulty cd or something?
[06:14] <zer0efx> Phoenix1701: found it, ty
[06:14] <bl4cktone> stikif: No I'm using it on a 17" LCD on my Dell laptop,  you may want to ask the guys at #ubuntu-xgl they know that stuff like the back of their hand.
[06:14] <hav0k> alright... well ill try to uninstall it, and reinstall... maybe it will pick it up... do you know if it's in the apt IcemanV9
[06:15] <Skarr> Do blackhats even exist anymore?
[06:15] <Madpilot> OmniD, easiest way - at least, easiest to explain here - is to open a terminal and type "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" then pastebin that
[06:15] <MinisterPolite> SeraVitae: slow pc....
[06:15] <IcemanV9> hav0k: i know there is a newer version out there, but it is not in the backport.
[06:15] <mister_roboto> Phoenix1701: ahh, ok. i didn't feel like going through all the manual steps and used it on this kubuntu machine to get all the video codecs.
[06:15] <Phoenix1701> khaije1: Well, if you don't mind having Java installed, there's JBidWatcher...
[06:15] <hav0k> i dont remember how i installed it
[06:15] <harisund> Hello! I have a Ubuntu box acting as a gateway doing nat, and it runs dnsmasq. The DHCP clients on the LAN can identify each other by hostnames, but the Ubuntu box itself doesn't know of the DHCP clients. Anyway around this? I tried adding nameserver 127.0.0.1 to /etc/resolv.conf but to no avail.
[06:15] <khaije1> MinisterPolite: oic, it's most books and other odds and ends
[06:15] <IcemanV9> hav0k: yes, it is in the repo
[06:15] <khaije1> iow not computer stuff
[06:15] <Phoenix1701> mister_roboto: Indeed.  Me neither...  I don't really have the need for it, honestly.
[06:15] <hav0k> IcemanV9:  as what?
[06:15] <aeon_flux_yk> hello
[06:16] <khaije1> thx Phoenix1701, i'll check that out :-)
[06:16] <bl4cktone> sikif: Not that it makes it impossible I've seen a few youtube videos of people with dual monitors handling it fine
[06:16] <IcemanV9> hav0k: network-manager-gnome
[06:16] <hav0k> IcemanV9, thanks
[06:16] <OmniD> !multiverse > OmniD
[06:16] <aeon_flux_yk> hello
[06:16] <mike-ekim> hello
[06:16] <mike-ekim> Im having trouble with graphical login
[06:16] <mike-ekim> how can i change to have it boot to console login
[06:17] <mike-ekim> cause it stalls and stops responding after it tries to bring up the graphical login
[06:17] <WhiteDeth> !bluetooth
[06:17] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[06:18] <aeon_flux_yk> allow
[06:18] <mister_roboto> mike-ekim: if you're talking about from the initial login dialog, you can select that from the session type list on that same dialog (kde/gnome/whatever desktop manager you have, or console)
[06:18] <mike-ekim> ok, but I need to edit the file
[06:18] <mike-ekim> cause the login screen isnt coming up
[06:19] <mike-ekim> so taht would be impossible to set the default session to come up
[06:19] <WhiteDeth> How do I view lsub output?
[06:19] <WhiteDeth> does anyone know?
[06:19] <WhiteDeth> *lsusb
[06:19] <WhiteDeth> !lsusb
[06:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lsusb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:19] <SeraVitae> lsusb | more ?
[06:19] <WhiteDeth> sweet cheers
[06:20] <SeraVitae> np
[06:20] <khaije1> MinisterPolite: are you still interested although it's not computer equipment? Typically books and things like that
[06:20] <SeraVitae> is there any way with dapper to install directly without having to boot livecd wise? for some reason on like 3 different boxes i've had nothing but trouble trying to do an install from the live desktop. yet when it does get there, it works fine.
[06:21] <mister_roboto> mike-ekim: hmmm if X fails to start properly, it should just go to console login automatically. that's what i've seen before when there was an x configuration problem. don't know
[06:21] <mike-ekim> hm
[06:21] <IcemanV9> SeraVitae: grab alternative cd
[06:21] <mike-ekim> can you help me set this to start in console login
[06:21] <mike-ekim> in redhat i would edit inittab, set to run default initmode 3
[06:21] <mister_roboto> mike-ekim: have you tried ctl-alt-f1/f2/etc for a console screen?
[06:21] <mike-ekim> but that doesnt seem to cut it here
[06:22] <SeraVitae> IcemanV9 - hm. i might try that if i dont get anywhere.
[06:22] <khaije1> Phoenix1701: it looks like this is for bidding on ebay, i am looking for a tool that could be used by a seller... are you aware of anything like that?
[06:22] <mike-ekim> mister_roboto: yes,i tried that but the computer stops responnding prior to launching the login
[06:22] <Phoenix1701> Oh!  No, sorry...  I'm not.
[06:23] <mister_roboto> mike-ekim: you could boot the live cd, then mount your hd and go edit your inittab
[06:23] <mike-ekim> i can
[06:23] <mike-ekim> im in rescue mode now
[06:23] <ranek> Which Cedega should I down load, the one for redhat? I don't see one listed for Ubuntu
[06:23] <mike-ekim> i can edit files
[06:23] <mike-ekim> just tell me where to go
[06:23] <mike-ekim> or what to do
[06:23] <mike-ekim> in the inittab
[06:23] <variant> mike-ekim: you dont edit inittab
[06:24] <mike-ekim> what do I do then?
[06:24] <variant> mike-ekim: oh sorry i was thinking of somtihng else :) sorry, too tired here
[06:24] <variant> :)
[06:24] <mike-ekim> eh
[06:24] <mike-ekim> dang
[06:24] <mike-ekim> ffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurfeewfh
[06:27] <mister_roboto> mike-ekim: id:2:initdefault:   is the line for the default runlevel
[06:27] <whurley>  Has any one installed Ubuntu Server on dual opterons? I'm having issues where it doesn't get past "booting kernel". However, I read the forums and I haven't been able to find any solution (not that I couldn't be looking in the wrong place). I'm trying to get this server up and running tonight and hoping someone here can help me.
[06:30] <wolfjb> I'm trying to switch from an installed debian sid distro to ubuntu 6.06. I have downloaded and created the AMD64 Alternative CD, but when I try to do the install, it doesn't recognize my LVM partitions. Is there a howto I've missed that discusses this on the website (or can someone give me some pointers?)
[06:31] <wolfjb> did that post?
[06:31] <wolfjb> take 2 (reposting since it looks like half of my original message got dropped into ether or something)
[06:31] <wolfjb> I'm trying to switch from an installed debian sid distro to ubuntu 6.06. I have downloaded and created the AMD64 Alternative CD, but when I try to do the install, it doesn't recognize my LVM partitions. Is there a howto I've missed that discusses this on the website (or can someone give me some pointers?)
[06:32] <WhiteDeth> no it was posted fine.
[06:32] <wolfjb> sorry for the dupe then
[06:34] <berto-> hi everyone.  does anyone know if it's possible to put the drives in a mdadm RAID array to sleep?
[06:35] <WhiteDeth> Can someone help me install bluetooth?
[06:35] <WhiteDeth> It's installed, and it detects up fine too, just wont find any bluetooth devices.
[06:36] <MinisterPolite> 2 outta 3 ain't bad
[06:36] <wickedpuppy> that brings the question ... do you have any bluetooth device enabled ?
[06:36] <WhiteDeth> lol
[06:36] <WhiteDeth> yes
[06:36] <WhiteDeth> my phone.
[06:36] <khaije1> wolfjb: i don't have advice on your partic situation, but i can tell you that (at least in the past) the installer had the ability you're describing, if you wanted to save time i would suggest installing to a normal partition and then using evms to properly access your lvm parts
[06:36] <WhiteDeth> !bluetooth
[06:36] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[06:36] <khaije1> wolfjb: though not ideal it would probably save you time
[06:36] <WhiteDeth> I followed that guide.
[06:37] <wickedpuppy> for a real bluetooth ... pls contact your dentist
[06:37] <WhiteDeth> funny.
[06:37] <WhiteDeth> when I do hcitool deb
[06:37] <WhiteDeth> *deb
[06:37] <WhiteDeth> *dev :|
[06:37] <twopoint0> sorry, I can't find enlightenment in the repo, i'm not sure what I am doing wrong
[06:37] <WhiteDeth>  hci0    00:16:41:4B:19:70
[06:37] <WhiteDeth> so I know the laptop detects that there is a bluetooth device installed.
[06:37] <wolfjb> khaije1: the installer has changed (it seems) because the instructions I could find worked perfectly when I did it 5.10 on a different machine
[06:38] <WhiteDeth> but sudo hidd --search gets me nothing.
[06:38] <wolfjb> the 6.06 installer doesn't have (or seem to have) the same functionality
[06:38] <WhiteDeth> it searches and finds nothing :\
[06:38] <wickedpuppy> twopoint0, what did ya search ? you have all the repos enabled and updated ?
[06:38] <khaije1> wolfjb: i've noticed the same thing, the general quality of the installer decreased, i guess it's a temporary by-product of trying to get fancy with ubiquity
[06:39] <twopoint0> this is my first linux distro, and my first 48 hours with it, how can i make sure i have all the repos enabled and updated?  I planned on searching enlightenment or E16
[06:39] <wickedpuppy> !repos
[06:39] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:40] <twopoint0> ty
[06:40] <wickedpuppy> no prob ... btw .. first linux distro ... do you know anyone who is good with linux ?
[06:40] <[BTF] Chm0d> If i have the nvidia drivers installed should I have the file libGL.so?
[06:40] <wolfjb> khaije1: I'm not that familiar with evms, is there some doc somewhere I can go read about it (haven't looked yet...)
[06:41] <khaije1> wolfjb: it's nothing to be intimidated by, it's a unified front end for storage mgmt, you can find plenty w/ a google, or you could install it and check the man page
[06:42] <khaije1> wolfjb: i use it to manage my lvm's and have found it to be *very* easy and useful
[06:42] <twopoint0> i know some people online, from mmos that are good with linux, but i tend to rely on my books, google, and the forums
[06:42] <wolfjb> khaije1: cool! thanks for the tip, I'll go start reading
[06:43] <relaxdiego> hello folks. i need help on my bottom panel. for some reason, every time i log-in, it keeps appearing on top and i have to check "Expand" before i can make it return to the bottom again.
[06:44] <bl4cktone> How do I add Terminal to my right click menu? Anyone?
[06:44] <wickedpuppy> relaxdiego, no idea about that one ...
[06:44] <twopoint0> wickedpuppy, i see 4 things, 1 that doesnt pertain to enlightenment.  one is a keybinding editor for enlightenment window manger, and the other 2 say that they are a graphical menu editor for enlightenment
[06:44] <relaxdiego> wickedpuppy: it's strange really. i've tried saving my session after fixing it.
[06:44] <twopoint0> for the sake of simplicity, i want the graphical one right?
[06:45] <wickedpuppy> yup
[06:45] <relaxdiego> wickedpuppy: still, it happens. even if i turn of compiz+AIGLX
[06:45] <drcode> any one know about grid project
[06:45] <wickedpuppy> relaxdiego, no idea dude
[06:46] <wickedpuppy> !grid
[06:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:46] <relaxdiego> wickedpuppy: yeah. maybe i should just dump ubuntu for windows.
[06:46] <relaxdiego> JUST KIDDING!
[06:46] <trianglemanwins_> can you run a .run in ubuntu?
[06:46] <WhiteDeth> I dumped Vista yesterday for Ubuntu
[06:46] <relaxdiego> ;-) i love ubuntu
[06:46] <wickedpuppy> relaxdiego, why not ? both are tools .. choose what you want ..
[06:46] <twopoint0> wickedpuppy now how would i go about applying a theme, after having installed elightenment?
[06:46] <WhiteDeth> been great so far.
[06:47] <wickedpuppy> twopoint0, no idea about enlightenment themes .... gnome themes i know
[06:47] <warlock> Is there a way to *look* for a line in a file, ex, if I want to look for the line "something_test.dev" in all of the files?
[06:47] <wickedpuppy> warlock, grep
[06:47] <warlock> could you give me the line for it wickedpuppy ?
[06:47] <wickedpuppy> try grep something_test.dev *
[06:47] <wickedpuppy> try this ?
[06:48] <trianglemanwins_> what is a .run and can it be used in ubuntu?
[06:48] <drcode> is there good grid project in linux?
[06:48] <wickedpuppy> trianglemanwins, can you open it up in text editor ?
[06:48] <WhiteDeth> 839 users in here and like 5 awake.
[06:48] <trianglemanwins_> no, it attempted to
[06:49] <wickedpuppy> it attempted to ?
[06:49] <wickedpuppy> what is it attempting to do ?
[06:49] <deep__> WhiteDeth, 6 awake :)
[06:50] <WhiteDeth> oh, gee sory.
[06:50] <WhiteDeth> I was one off.
[06:50] <deep__> Haha =)
[06:50] <WhiteDeth> still...no one that can help me?!
[06:50] <deep__> WhiteDeth, *starts finding your problem*
[06:50] <WhiteDeth> haha
[06:50] <nandemonai> Hi peoples, anyone know if the MuSE streamer app is available via apt-get for Dapper? I see muse the sequencer and muse-el some project management thing but not MuSE Streamer?
[06:50] <WhiteDeth> my laptop detects bluetooth device, but it doesnt find anything when I search for devices around.
[06:51] <twopoint0> so by using the synaptic package manager, i have not just compiled the file, i have also installed it. is that correct?
[06:51] <deep__> WhiteDeth, what is it your searching for?
[06:51] <wickedpuppy> twopoint0, nope
[06:51] <WhiteDeth> my phone.
[06:51] <wickedpuppy> you never compile
[06:51] <twopoint0> uh oh
[06:51] <twopoint0> well not compile
[06:51] <wickedpuppy> you get a package and install it
[06:51] <twopoint0> i installed the package, but i'm not qute sure where it went
[06:52] <wickedpuppy> twopoint0, which package ?
[06:52] <deep__> WhiteDeth, And with what software are you searching with?
[06:52] <WhiteDeth> terminal
[06:52] <twopoint0> E16 enlightenment
[06:52] <wickedpuppy> two you want to go into the enlightenment issit ?
[06:52] <CorpseFeeder> I am trying to use the nvidia video drivers, but I also want to be able to play DVDs, so instead od unistalling the restricted moudles necessary for DVD, I want to edit the restricted modules configuration file according to the instructions on the Nvidia Linux Forums... It tells me to edit linux-restricted-modules but the only file I have in the directory mentioned is linux-restricted-modules-common - Should I make the changes to
[06:52] <wickedpuppy> twopoint0, i mean
[06:52] <WhiteDeth> deep_ I've also tried searching via the Bluetooth OBEX Object, but it wont find any devices either. I know my bluetooth device is working, that's for sure.
[06:53] <deep__> WhiteDeth, must'nt you get a software that can read that specific phone?
[06:53] <twopoint0> i downloaded a them which is dependant on enlightenment
[06:53] <twopoint0> i have the tar.gz for the theme, and i used synaptic to get E16
[06:53] <WhiteDeth> deep_ Not necessary, it should atleast see my phone, detect that there's a bluetooth device around.
[06:53] <twopoint0> but i dont know how to access enlightenment and/or how to apply the theme
[06:53] <CorpseFeeder> when I say "only file" what I meant was "the closest matching file"
[06:54] <jikanter> where is the /proc/mapped_base file in the 2.6 x86-64 kernel?
[06:54] <whurley> any ubuntu server experts online tonight?
[06:54] <wickedpuppy> twopoint0, would you mind searching for google on "configuring enlightenment theme" ?
[06:54] <wickedpuppy> !ask
[06:54] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:54] <deep__> WhiteDeth, Thats true. Err, well. I dunno. :/ i think ubuntuguide.org has something about bluetooth devices.
[06:54] <nandemonai> twopoint0, Enlightment is a whole window manager.. like Gnome or KDe
[06:54] <WhiteDeth> deep_ cheers, ill check there.
[06:55] <twopoint0> someone on irc told me "Copy your folder with your new theme to your ~/.enlightenment/themes folder. Then, start X11 and in enlightenment 'select' the new theme in the Themes 'menu' (you'll see it there)."
[06:55] <twopoint0> ok, i'll take another look at google and see what it tells me
[06:55] <whurley> did
[06:55] <whurley> :)
[06:56] <wickedpuppy> twopoint0, eh ah ... you are already in gnome isnt it twopoint0 ?
[06:56] <twopoint0> yea
[06:56] <nandemonai> twopoint0, A little hint.. to start enlightment you need to log out and change your session from gnome/kde or whatever to Enlightment.
[06:56] <wickedpuppy> twopoint0, then x has already been started ?
[06:56] <nandemonai> *Enlightenment even
[06:56] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> !deb
[06:56] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[06:57] <twopoint0> so if i change my session, do i do that with killall gdm, and then sudo (whatever enlightenment is)?
[06:57] <twopoint0> nandemonai the first thing i need to do is log out then right?
[06:58] <wickedpuppy> twopoint0, pls follow nandemonai help on going into enlightenment
[06:58] <nandemonai> woah
[06:58] <nandemonai> You dont need to kill anything.
[06:58] <Healot> nandemonai wa, nandemonai
[06:58] <twopoint0> >.>
[06:58] <twopoint0> ok i wont kill anything
[06:58] <nandemonai> When you first boot up you get a login screen right?
[06:58] <twopoint0> that is correct
[06:58] <nandemonai> Good ;)
[06:58] <nandemonai> So on that screen is a sessions button..
[06:59] <nandemonai> There you can pick your window manager.. gnome, kde, enlightment etc
[06:59] <Beawolfe> can someone please tell me how to get a par2 file to verify in the GUI?
[06:59] <twopoint0> i can vaguely recall where that is, bottom left or somewhere around there
[06:59] <wickedpuppy> bottom left
[06:59] <CorpseFeeder> I am trying to use the nvidia video drivers from the nvidia website, but I also want to be able to play DVDs, so instead of uninstalling the restricted modules necessary for DVD playback, I want to edit the restricted modules configuration file according to the instructions on the Nvidia Linux Forums... It tells me to edit linux-restricted-modules but the closest match I have to that file in the directory mentioned is linux-restr
[06:59] <twopoint0> ok, so log out and then pick my window manager from the session manager, am i understanding this?
[06:59] <nandemonai> Then just login once Enlightenment is choosen and voila.
[06:59] <wickedpuppy> yes twopoint0
[06:59] <nandemonai> Yup
[07:00] <Flannel> twopoint0: right, there will be a "sessions" menu to choose from at gdm/kdm/xdm (the place you log in)
[07:00] <twopoint0> oh amen, i think this is the first linux thing i have actually understood, i need to get further into my books but it's only been less than 2 days =X
[07:00] <twopoint0> brb
[07:00] <nandemonai> Your doing pretty well then ;)
[07:00] <wickedpuppy> twopoint0, normally linux books are outdated
[07:00] <wickedpuppy> oh well
[07:01] <nandemonai> IRC = Best linux resource ever.
[07:01] <Healot> the latest ones are printed... really
[07:01] <twopoint0> hmmm it's not there
[07:01] <nandemonai> So err anyone tried MuSE streamer on Ubuntu?
[07:02] <nandemonai> Oh twopoint0?? It should be if it installed cprrectly.
[07:02] <nandemonai> <- Can't type today.
[07:02] <twopoint0> i see last session, GNOME and some other things, but nothing related to enlightenment
[07:02] <wickedpuppy> twopoint0, you did installed this right ?
[07:02] <wickedpuppy> enlightenment - The Enlightenment Window Manager
[07:02] <CorpseFeeder> how do I stop the screen fading when it's about to put the screen saver on?
[07:03] <twopoint0> it should have been installed right, i got the package via synaptic
[07:03] <wickedpuppy> CorpseFeeder, press any key ? or move mouse ?
[07:03] <wickedpuppy> twopoint0, can you double check ?
[07:03] <twopoint0> sure, just go back and search for it like before then yea?
[07:03] <wickedpuppy> twopoint0, nope .. just that above package has been installed
[07:03] <CorpseFeeder> haha.. no I mean is there anyway to stop it from doing the fade thing at all?
[07:04] <twopoint0> hm, how would I go about doing that?
[07:04] <wickedpuppy> CorpseFeeder, you mean lengthen the screen saver time ?
[07:04] <wickedpuppy> twopoint0, search for The Enlightenment Window Manager
[07:04] <twopoint0> btw if anyone wants to tell me to stomp on my NIC and cancel my ISP go ahead, this is making me feel like an idiot
[07:04] <twopoint0> =D
[07:04] <CorpseFeeder> no I mean have screen savers so they just start with out going through the fade business
[07:04] <wickedpuppy> twopoint0, as i said if you know a local guru it would be a lot bettter
[07:04] <khaije1> CorpseFeeder: it's configurable in the advance tab under screen saver which is found under admin
[07:04] <twopoint0> AHA!
[07:04] <nandemonai> I think CorpseFeeder just wants to turn off the fade effect.. good question as I have no idea.
[07:05] <AlienX> anyone having issues with firefox hanging their system? It's been happening for the last 2 weeks on my box and it's being a bit frustrating
[07:05] <twopoint0> it was not installed but i rather installed something else that i have no clue what it pertains to but I am sure I will figure it out soon
[07:05] <nomasteryoda> AlienX, yes
[07:05] <twopoint0> it related to enlightenment, but it wasnt the manager
[07:05] <nomasteryoda> edgy or dapepr AlienX
[07:05] <twopoint0> ok one moment, let me try this again
[07:05] <khaije1> CorpseFeeder: you can increase/decrease the time from there
[07:05] <CorpseFeeder> hmmm.. wel ther is no advanced tab on my screensaver settings
[07:05] <wickedpuppy> twopoint0, you will no doubt but you will go under a lot of stress ... pls do not tell people linux is hard to use k ?
[07:05] <nomasteryoda> CorpseFeeder, true i don't have it either
[07:06] <nomasteryoda> dapper nor edgy
[07:06] <twopoint0> i won't
[07:06] <AlienX> nomasteryoda, dapper. I think the issue might be that it's not playing nicely with skype
[07:06] <khaije1> CorpseFeeder: type xscreensaver from cmdline
[07:06] <nomasteryoda> some Ubuntu setting to Gnome seems to have rendered the advanced tab to oblivion
[07:06] <twopoint0> it's even more embarassing to admit that i am in my first semester of network security, i decided to start with linux to become more familiar with it, i figured it could only benefit me
[07:06] <wickedpuppy> well then happy screwing up twopoint0 ... thats how we all learnt .. i usually format my harddisk every 3 months or so
[07:06] <xaxxon_> I'm trying to get mp3 files to play in rhythmbox.  I found the bit where it says how to install the codecs, but I can't seem to find those packages in synaptic
[07:06] <nomasteryoda> AlienX, so if skype is off, then it's ok?
[07:06] <twopoint0> it's complicated, but already i can recognize the flexibility and function and i am happy that i get to learn
[07:06] <SeraVitae> ubuntu is starting to shit me.
[07:07] <twopoint0> and thanks to you all for helping out with this =D
[07:07] <SeraVitae> this is now 4 copies, 2 computers and 2 cdrom drives.
[07:07] <SeraVitae> same crap.
[07:07] <wickedpuppy> twopoint0, you are in network security ? i suggest you get nmap and ethereal first
[07:07] <wickedpuppy> nmap will blow you away
[07:07] <Flannel> xaxxon_: you need to enable some repositories, the top of the page (of the one with the instructions) should mention that, or maybe the top of the blip on how to install that specific codec
[07:07] <CorpseFeeder> i get no such command for xscreensaver
[07:08] <AlienX> nomasteryoda, i don't know...I'll give it a look tomorrow. It completely hangs my system for a good 30 seconds :(
[07:08] <khaije1> CorpseFeeder: hmm... what version of ubuntu are you using?
[07:08] <xaxxon_> Flannel: looking.. not seeing, but not done looking
[07:08] <nomasteryoda> AlienX, i just reboot min... hot
[07:08] <wickedpuppy> CorpseFeeder, cat /etc/issue
[07:08] <nomasteryoda> if they will and powerdown with button if not
[07:08] <nomasteryoda> i gave up
[07:08] <nomasteryoda> i don't run firefox or whatever it will be called soon...
[07:08] <Max_-> hi all .. how do I get mysql up and running?
[07:09] <Flannel> xaxxon_: you're looking here, right? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-1340337f2ca1d0c54900935468515ba7630fcc59
[07:09] <CorpseFeeder> I'm using 2.6.15-27-386 kernel
[07:09] <wickedpuppy> Max_-, mysqld or sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[07:09] <Beawolfe> can someone tell me how to get a par2 file to verify while in the GUI
[07:09] <Flannel> Max_-: you looking to do it with apache2? or just on it's own?
[07:09] <nomasteryoda> CorpseFeeder, do this... sudo apt-get install xscreensaver
[07:09] <Max_-> wickedpuppy, .. gotta install it :P
[07:09] <nomasteryoda> then you'll be happy
[07:09] <xaxxon_> flannel: I hadn't been; I am now
[07:09] <CorpseFeeder> 6.06.1 ubuntu I think
[07:09] <Max_-> Flannel,  on it's own... first I'd like to know how to get it
[07:09] <wickedpuppy> Max_-, you mean how to install mysql ... sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[07:10] <wickedpuppy> use synaptic
[07:10] <Max_-> okay, thanks
[07:10] <wickedpuppy> whichever you prefer
[07:10] <Flannel> !tell Max_- about lamp
[07:10] <poningru> Max_-: what is this for?
[07:10] <Flannel> Max_-: read that page, but ignore the stuff that isn't just the base mysql packages ;)
[07:10] <AlienX> nomasteryoda, i won't be rebooting tonight.
[07:11] <nomasteryoda> AlienX, good
[07:11] <nomasteryoda> me niether...
[07:11] <SeraVitae> is upgrading from badger to dapper worth it?
[07:11] <SeraVitae> im just running the pc as a lil server
[07:11] <nomasteryoda> in ubuntu... i don't have to too often...
[07:11] <Max_-> Flannel, .. well I like that Lamp thing... because even though I just need mysql at the moment, I'll have to work with apache and php very soon.. so I better put this all up now
[07:11] <SeraVitae> but it refuses to boot dapper
[07:11] <xaxxon_> Flannel: the directions don't say anything about adding repositories, just gstreamer..-plugins-ugly which I don't seem to be able to find
[07:12] <Flannel> xaxxon_: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[07:12] <xaxxon_> 6.06
[07:12] <Flannel> xaxxon_: you need to have universe enabled, there's a link later on in that section that mentions universe... although it should say that first.
[07:12] <khaije1> CorpseFeeder: try this one... xscreensaver-demo
[07:13] <Flannel> xaxxon_: it's indirectly sort of kind of mentioned as the first thing under "mp3"
[07:13] <nomasteryoda> CorpseFeeder, did you install the xscreensaver yet?
[07:13] <nomasteryoda> exit
[07:13] <xaxxon_> ok
[07:13] <nomasteryoda> grr wrong term
[07:13] <frederic_> hi
[07:13] <khaije1> anyone know how to determine the ubuntu version from the cmdline?
[07:13] <nomasteryoda> welcome frederic_
[07:14] <CorpseFeeder> yes I installed it
[07:14] <wickedpuppy> khaije1, cat /etc/issue
[07:14] <khaije1> sweet thanks wickedpuppy
[07:14] <frederic_> tu peut m aider a configurere amule pour la connexion
[07:14] <wickedpuppy> np
[07:14] <wickedpuppy> !fr
[07:14] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:14] <CorpseFeeder> I typed xscreensaver to see what it did, and when I exited it, my console window stopped responding :)
[07:15] <fulld> how do i undivert?
[07:15] <wickedpuppy> undivert ?
[07:15] <fulld> i did a dpkg-divert --divert
[07:15] <fulld> and that was back - i want to go back
[07:15] <khaije1> CorpseFeeder: can you type 'cat /etc/issue' w/o quotes to verify your ubuntu version?
[07:16] <khaije1> CorpseFeeder: new window if you have to :-)
[07:16] <Caplain> eject -T returns an error that -T is an invalid option
[07:16] <WhiteDeth> !bluetooth
[07:16] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[07:16] <CorpseFeeder> yes, Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS \n \l
[07:16] <frederic_> i a personne sur ubuntu.fr
[07:16] <xaxxon_> flannel: thank you, I think I found what I needed
[07:16] <khaije1> CorpseFeeder: do you keep the software up to date?
[07:17] <wickedpuppy> oh hmms .... Caplain you wanna eject cd drive ?
[07:17] <frederic_> i a personne sur ubuntu.fr
[07:17] <Healot> !fr
[07:17] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:17] <chris86wm> hey guys
[07:17] <CorpseFeeder> I don't know.. I let it update whenever it asks me, if that's what you mean
[07:17] <link_36p> Where can i change the default window manager that gnome-session starts?
[07:17] <citizin> I have a annoying problem if anyone is willing to help me out.
[07:17] <Healot> !ask
[07:17] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:17] <Caplain> wickedpuppy: i want to make an applet that i click to eject or close my cd tray
[07:17] <Caplain> not cause im lazy i sware
[07:18] <wickedpuppy> Caplain, the command is eject ... you have tried it ... no ?
[07:18] <khaije1> link_36p: easiest way is from the display manager screen
[07:18] <a_thing> What is/are the package(s) for OpenSSH?
[07:18] <CorpseFeeder> Is Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS not up to date or something?
[07:18] <wickedpuppy> a_thing, you can search for openssh in synaptic
[07:18] <Healot> OpenSSL do you mean?
[07:18] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: up to date? no, it was up to date when it was packaged, but there have been updates after that
[07:18] <Caplain> wickedpuppy: oh it works very well for ejecting but then ill have to have a seperate icon for closing the tray
[07:18] <citizin> I have a geforce fx 5700le, ubuntu seems to recognize it's connected if I type "lspci -x" but, if I go to my BIOS, Enabled PCI, and then try to boot into ubuntu it hangs at "detected hardwar drivers"
[07:19] <twopoint0_> alright, it's there now
[07:19] <wickedpuppy> Caplain, i have no iea how to close the tray .. if you found out pls tell me
[07:19] <a_thing> wickedpuppy: I don't have Ubuntu, I want to know this for a tutorial I'm writing.
[07:19] <Flannel> a_thing: packages.ubuntu.com
[07:19] <CorpseFeeder> Is there something I need to do to make this thing update then?
[07:19] <wickedpuppy> a_thing, eh ah .. you don't have ubuntu and you are writing a tutorial ? on ubuntu ?
[07:19] <HeavyThinker> closing the cd tray is just 'eject -t'
[07:19] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: just normal update manager/synaptic updates
[07:19] <khaije1> CorpseFeeder: to update type this command into a terminal sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:19] <wickedpuppy> ahh small -t
[07:20] <HeavyThinker> for anyone whose still asking...
[07:20] <a_thing> wickedpuppy: On OpenSSH.
[07:20] <wickedpuppy> neat ... thanks
[07:20] <twopoint0_> wickedpuppy, who else was it that was helping me with enlightenment
[07:20] <citizin> and I downloaded the drivers from synaptic
[07:20] <wickedpuppy> a_thing, pls follow the link that Flannel gave ya
[07:20] <Healot> a_thing: do you mean OpenSSL?
[07:20] <wickedpuppy> twopoint0, a lot of people .. its ok
[07:21] <a_thing> Healot: No, OpenSSH.
[07:21] <Caplain> wickedpuppy: well eject -T toggles the tray in gentoo but thats for version 2.1.x but that doesnt seem to work in ubuntu, but eject -t closes the tray
[07:21] <wickedpuppy> Caplain, -t not -T
[07:21] <CorpseFeeder> ok.. that responded with a lot of guff.. then "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[07:21] <Healot> !find openssh
[07:21] <ubotu> Found: openssh-client, openssh-server
[07:21] <Caplain> i have 3 cdrom drives...and i dont want to make 6 icons or shortcut keys
[07:21] <Flannel> a_thing: again, from that site: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/openssh-server
[07:21] <wickedpuppy> oh okie you got -t too
[07:21] <a_thing> packages.ubuntu.org is what I was looking for.
[07:21] <a_thing> THanks.
[07:21] <citizin> So does anyone think they can help me with this problem?
[07:21] <citizin> I really don't want to go back to windows :\
[07:22] <khaije1> CorpseFeeder: o ok, thats a good sign, did you ever try the screensaver-demo option?
[07:22] <Healot> !ask > citizin
[07:22] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: then you're up to date
[07:22] <wickedpuppy> Caplain, if you do man eject ... you will see there is no -T
[07:22] <aztracker1> citizin, what's the problem?
[07:22] <wnoronha> any one ubuntu on powerbook users here
[07:22] <Caplain> wickedpuppy: correct, but i want to toggle
[07:22] <CorpseFeeder> I typed in xscreensaver-demo, and it looked no different to typing xscreensaver by itself - am I missing the point?
[07:23] <Caplain> wickedpuppy: eject -h shows -T
[07:23] <citizin> well.. if I boot ubuntu (dapper) with onboard video, it boots fine. If I try to boot it with my PCI card (nvidia fx 5700le) it hangs at "detected hardware drivers"
[07:23] <wnoronha> i need to know how to solve teh synaptic touch pad issue. but its getting reall
[07:23] <citizin> But, I installed Nvidia drivers
[07:23] <wickedpuppy> Caplain, not here ... i don't see no -T
[07:24] <link_36p> khaije1 > Where is the display manager screen?
[07:24] <Caplain> wickedpuppy: oh youre right...hmmm i guess it is only for version 2.1.x which seems to be unsupported in ubuntu
[07:24] <CorpseFeeder> oh.. typing xscreensaver by itself doesn't work anymore.
[07:24] <khaije1> Flannel: weird huh?
[07:24] <Flannel> khaije1: what? what is?
[07:25] <khaije1> link_36p: that is the first screen you see when you sign in, it should have an option to let you pick a different window manager, but remember you have to install them first before they are available
[07:25] <khaije1> Flannel: CorpseFeeder's problem
[07:25] <Flannel> khaije1: what is his problem?
[07:26] <CorpseFeeder> now when I type "xscreensaver" i get "xscreensaver: 15:23:40: already running on display :0.0 (window 0x2a00001)
[07:26] <CorpseFeeder>  from process 6114 (mouser@mouser-desktop)."
[07:26] <aztracker1> citizen, think you need to enable the nvidia-glx drivers...
[07:26] <WhiteDeth> Anyone here who can help me with Bluetooth?
[07:26] <CorpseFeeder> but xscreensaver-demo launches the screensaver panel
[07:26] <citizin> !ask If I boot ubuntu with onboard video, it boot's fine, if I enable PCI in my BIOS and try to boot it hangs at "detecting hardware drivers", I got the legeacy nvidia drivers from synaptic and still no go, any help here?
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask If I boot ubuntu with onboard video, it boot's fine, if I enable PCI in my BIOS and try to boot it hangs at "detecting hardware drivers", I got the legeacy nvidia drivers from synaptic and still no go, any help here? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:26] <aztracker1> citizin, err.. nm.. maybe try the legacy version, dunno..
[07:26] <citizin> I did try the legacy version.
[07:27] <citizin> I tried both drivers in synaptic.
[07:27] <khaije1> CorpseFeeder: does it have an advanced tab?
[07:27] <wickedpuppy> k guys i go play FFVIII
[07:28] <Caplain> wickedpuppy: eject-2.1.3_i386.deb
[07:28] <CorpseFeeder> when I launch from console with xscreensaver-demo there is an advanced tab, yes. But the screensaver panel from clicking System>Preferences>Screensaver is still the old one with no advanced tab
[07:28] <twopoint0_> is anyone here familiar with applying enlightenment themes?
[07:29] <Caplain> or i686
[07:29] <citizin> I mean, Im not linux guru, Im very noob, I know the bare bone basics, but this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33142 is very confusing, and the first step isn't working properly. im unable to find my pci id for the video card
[07:29] <khaije1> CorpseFeeder: you've arrived, the option is under 'fading and colormaps' do you see it?
[07:30] <WhiteDeth> anyone use XMMS Infopipe??
[07:30] <CorpseFeeder> yes, I found the way to switch it off, thanks. Anyway, my other question... are the files linux-restricted-modules and linux-restricted-modules-common the same file which I need to edit for nvidia drivers to work?
[07:31] <citizin> Well, if anyone can help me out, please PM me, I really need my video card working, Until then I guess its back to google.
[07:31] <NickGarvey> I am unable to log in, I will log in and then it will put me right back at the log in screen, I don't see anything in the log files
[07:31] <Beawolfe> anyone willing to help a NOOB get a par2 file to verify in the GUI?
[07:31] <wnoronha> Is there any fix for teh SynatpicTouchpad and Apple Powerbook 17" (PPC)
[07:32] <twopoint0_> if someone tells me to run X11, what are they telling me to do >.>
[07:32] <wnoronha> twopoint0_: startx
[07:32] <SeraVitae> run the gui thingy.
[07:32] <SeraVitae> with lots of pretty pictures.
[07:32] <khaije1> CorpseFeeder: you don't need to edit any files for nvidia, just install and activate
[07:32] <CorpseFeeder>  I am trying to use the nvidia video drivers from the nvidia website, but I also want to be able to play DVDs, so instead of uninstalling the restricted modules necessary for DVD playback, I want to edit the restricted modules configuration file according to the instructions on the Nvidia Linux Forums... It tells me to edit linux-restricted-modules but the closest match I have to that file in the directory mentioned is linux-rest
[07:33] <khaije1> no no just use the packaged ones, it's easier (or at least more standard setup)
[07:33] <khaije1> CorpseFeeder: do you have all your repositories enabled?
[07:33] <CorpseFeeder> all repositories are enabled
[07:35] <citizin> 0000:01:0a.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV36 [GeForce FX 5700LE]  (rev a1) --- is "0000:01:0a.0" my video cards pci location?
[07:35] <CorpseFeeder> the problem is nvidia drivers won't work with the restricted modules installed and DVDs can't be played without the restricted modules... and the Nvidia forums say that I can edit the configuration file to disable something if I don't want to uninstall the restricted modules.
[07:36] <khaije1> nvidia is in a restricted module
[07:36] <citizin> Corpsefeeder, are you running a nvidia card as well, cause I can't seem to get my nvidia card to load with ubuntu dapper
[07:36] <CorpseFeeder> yeah.. the nvidia driver in the restricted modules package conflicts with the nvidia driver from the nvidia website
[07:37] <CorpseFeeder> from the Nvidia Linux Forum " If you use Ubuntu, please also ensure that the linux-restricted-modules packages have been uninstalled. Alternatively, you can edit the /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules configuration file and disable the NVIDIA linux-restricted kernel modules (nvidia, nvidia_legacy) via:
[07:37] <CorpseFeeder> DISABLED_MODULES="nv"
[07:37] <NickGarvey> can someone help me with my login problem?
[07:37] <citizin> Corpsefeeder, if I remove that would it boot ubuntu with my video card?
[07:37] <Theolustra> is it possible to connect to an existing session with XDMCP or perhaps some other way?
[07:38] <khaije1> CorpseFeeder: i'd reccomend you use the restricted nvidia driver
[07:38] <CorpseFeeder> The restricted drivers are crap
[07:38] <twopoint0_> no one available to help me figure out how to apply themes to enlightenment?
[07:38] <wnoronha> is there a ubuntu mac channel?
[07:38] <Theolustra> possibly move an app from one X display to another?
[07:38] <citizin> I don't think anyone can even see what im typing.. hm..
[07:39] <CorpseFeeder> the transparency in the restricted drivers does not work.. the drivers from Nvidia do work though
[07:39] <Ackeubu_> hey the gnome autohide panel doesnt completely hide the panel. is that how it should be? or can i change how much it hides?
[07:39] <SeraVitae> citizin - nup, can't see what you're typing. try typing in capslock so we can hear it louder
[07:39] <khaije1> CorpseFeeder: you misunderstand, there are free drivers, and there are restricted drivers, the restricted drivers for ubuntu are the same as the one's from the website, they are just packaged for ubuntu
[07:39] <citizin> capslock, lol... good way to get kicked.
[07:39] <SeraVitae> but hang on, you just responded to my message.
[07:39] <SeraVitae> i thought nobody could read your text.
[07:39] <davvs> wnoronha, is it very slow?
[07:40] <khaije1> CorpseFeeder: the free drivers are the ones that are playing catch up for various reasons, but i wouldn't say there are crap anyway
[07:40] <citizin> Well, thats what I thought, but I guess its just no one knows the answer to my problem
[07:40] <CorpseFeeder> then how come they don't work?.. I get all multicoloured garbage with the restricted drivers...
[07:40] <khaije1> CorpseFeeder: so you want the restricted driver from ubuntu because it is just more automated install
[07:41] <Theolustra> Anyone know if it's possible to remotely connect to an existing X session (with XDMCP possibly)?
[07:41] <james296> isnt it possible to view pdf files on firefox without having to get adobe reader??
[07:41] <citizin> james296, I believe google does that.
[07:41] <khaije1> CorpseFeeder: what does this command return ' sudo lsmod | grep nv '
[07:41] <james296> google does what?
[07:41] <Flannel> Theolustra: it is, and yes, XDMCP is one option, although only within a LAN, since most routers filter UDP for external traffic
[07:41] <SeraVitae> so you can use X remotely, sorta like VNC?
[07:41] <citizin> If you upload it to a ftp, I've seen google bring up pdf files, and next to the link it has a "VIEW PDF" and it loads the pdf in the browser
[07:41] <Theolustra> Flannel, yes I'm on a lan. How then?
[07:42] <CorpseFeeder> it says...
[07:42] <CorpseFeeder> nvidia               4547540  12
[07:42] <CorpseFeeder> i2c_core               21904  5 i2c_acpi_ec,adv7175,saa7110,nvidia,i2c_algo_bit
[07:42] <CorpseFeeder> agpgart                34888  2 nvidia,sis_agp
[07:42] <Beawolfe> citizen I see you but we are being ignored.....I have asked the same question 5 times with no reponse in the last 20 mins
[07:42] <Theolustra> SeraVitae, so I can remotely access a running app
[07:42] <Flannel> Theolustra: you need to go to login screen setup, enable remote logins and some other things that are disabled, then you can connect via XDMCP
[07:42] <Onbir> Hey. How to setup the deskbar to find everything including in logs and Gaim conversations?
[07:42] <citizin> Beawolfe, I just think no one knows our problems.
[07:42] <CorpseFeeder> so.. does that mean anything to anyone?
[07:42] <james296> Im talkin about when going to the System Documentation site from the System>Help menu
[07:42] <Theolustra> Flannel, I got a login but when I do it doesn't let me connect to the existing session, just asks if I want to login anyway
[07:43] <SeraVitae> Theolustra - yes, i know, but i was asking something different.
[07:43] <citizin> Which is unfortunet, cause WINE Is reporting OpenGL errors, Im thinking its cause im using on board video
[07:43] <james296> and when I click PDF, it returns with this error...
[07:43] <Flannel> Theolustra: oh, to an existing session?  I'm not sure how to do that, pretty sure it's doable though
[07:43] <citizin> SeraVitae, think you could just answer me a quick question?
[07:43] <SeraVitae> Uhhhhh. i just installed breezy badger and when it rebooted, it's sitting at a grub> login doing nothing. wtf?
[07:44] <citizin> Ugh..
[07:44] <khaije1> CorpseFeeder: just seeing what driver you're using now. type this ' grep nv /etc/X11/xorg.conf '
[07:44] <Theolustra> Flannel, when I login to that host locally, it asks if I want to resume the existing session or start a new one. Remotely not so :-/
[07:44] <harisund> Hello! When I acquire a IP using dhcp, the name server information is stored in /etc/resolv.conf. Can I modify this in anyway? (in other words, when my ISP provides me with the name servers, I want Ubuntu to store it in /etc/isp.conf and not /etc/resolv.conf as it does now)
[07:44] <dibblego> when I click a link in xchat, mozilla opens instead of my preferred browser - is it an xchat setting or something else?
[07:45] <james296> Could not launch Adobe Reader 7.0. Please make sure it exists in PATH variable  in the environment
[07:45] <dibblego> harisund, a symlink?
[07:45] <harisund> Theolustra: I am guessing you need something like VNC then .
[07:45] <citizin> james296, I had that problem earlier
[07:45] <Onbir> Hey. How to setup the deskbar to find everything including in logs and Gaim conversations?
[07:45] <citizin> only with a diffrent program
[07:45] <CorpseFeeder> it respondeth with...
[07:45] <james296> and to fix it?
[07:45] <CorpseFeeder> # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
[07:45] <CorpseFeeder> # nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  (buildmeister@builder3)  Tue Aug  1 21:11:12 PDT 2006
[07:45] <CorpseFeeder>     Driver         "nvidia"
[07:45] <harisund> dibblego: won't do. I don't want it to modified at all. I want to keep my version of /etc/resolv.conf
[07:45] <citizin> Im trying to remember...
[07:45] <Theolustra> harisund, kinda hate VNC...but maybe so
[07:45] <citizin> I googled it and found a good fix though.
[07:46] <citizin> Wish I could remember...
[07:46] <james296> cuz I remember that I was able to view PDF files without it before Automatix automatically installed Adobe Reader when I even disabled it...
[07:46] <SeraVitae> so wait lemme get this right
[07:46] <SeraVitae> with like XDMCP or whatever
[07:46] <SeraVitae> you can like run the x 'client' on one machine
[07:46] <NickGarvey> when trying to log in, I am logged out instantly, what might cause this?
[07:46] <SeraVitae> and it gets sent text messages or whatever
[07:46] <khaije1> CorpseFeeder: have you restarted you're machine since you installed it?
[07:46] <SeraVitae> of what to display.. from the x 'server' on another machine?
[07:46] <CorpseFeeder> Yes
[07:46] <SeraVitae> sorta like vnc but rather than sending all video/i-o data, it just sends messages?
[07:46] <james296> you gonna help me out here?
[07:47] <richiefrich> SeraVitae can be like vnc too
[07:47] <SeraVitae> that is made of WIN. can i use an XDMCP client on windows?
[07:47] <twopoint0> 2 questions, 1) i am having a hell of a time installing an ASUS EAX 1600 PRO, other than the ATI wiki, does anyone know what I can do to get this taken care of, and 2) if i have enlightenment installed, and a theme downloaded in tar.gz format, how do i apply it
[07:47] <harisund> SeraVitae: Yes. You can install the X server in Cygwin and use that.
[07:47] <SeraVitae> Cool.
[07:47] <SeraVitae> i meant using windows as the client, but yeah.
[07:47] <Skarr> Hey!
[07:47] <SeraVitae> i'd rather use my nix box at home via my windows box at uni.
[07:47] <harisund> SeraVitae: there's just one caveat to using XDMCP though. It's fast and all that due to no encryption, but you need a publicly resolvable IP address on the client side.
[07:47] <Theolustra> SeraVitae, you'd need an X server
[07:47] <SeraVitae> that said, my linux box just died.
[07:47] <SeraVitae> harisund - i'm cool with that
[07:48] <harisund> SeraVitae: There are other options for the remote access of Linux machines from school Windows machines :)
[07:48] <SeraVitae> true
[07:48] <SeraVitae> how can i boot linux from grub> ?
[07:48] <CorpseFeeder> All I know is the nvidia Linux drivers downloaded from the Nvidia website work perfectly, and the drivers in teh restricted modules cause multicoloured garbage on screen.
[07:48] <harisund> SeraVitae: boot Linux from grub? What does that mean? You lost the grub configuration files?
[07:48] <SeraVitae> i mean i shoved badger install cd in
[07:48] <SeraVitae> it installed fine
[07:48] <SeraVitae> i reboot and it's sitting at grub>
[07:49] <THX-1138> !grub
[07:49] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:49] <james296> so what do I do?
[07:49] <richiefrich> SeraVitae and  that means you need  to fix it
[07:49] <SeraVitae> but i didn't even break it. that was default from badger. :P
[07:49] <richiefrich> SeraVitae  type  -->  help
[07:50] <SeraVitae> yeah i've tried some options
[07:50] <SeraVitae> like boot and stuff
[07:50] <SeraVitae> nothing seems to help.
[07:50] <khaije1> CorpseFeeder: oh i think i see the problem..
[07:50] <richiefrich> SeraVitae  type  -->  root (hd0,0)
[07:50] <richiefrich> SeraVitae  type  --> setup (hd0)
[07:50] <SeraVitae> ok
[07:50] <C-O-L-T> what kind of html editor exists in linux? instead of gedit? I mean I need some easy to use tool like Dreamweaver for Windows
[07:50] <CorpseFeeder> installing the linux-restricted-modules stops X from starting, but apparently I can fix that if I type "DISABLED MODULES="nv"" into a config file somewhere... then the Nvidia drivers will work AND let me have restricted-modules installed too.
[07:51] <AWOSDev> C-O-L-T try Kdevelop
[07:51] <khaije1> CorpseFeeder:  i don't have experience with this so i'll refer you to this document and back to the community https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[07:51] <SeraVitae> okay that did stuff
[07:51] <richiefrich> SeraVitae  what did it shoot back ?
[07:51] <AWOSDev> C-O-L-T it's an IDE that allows you to do HTML editing (among other things)
[07:51] <richiefrich> SeraVitae any errors ?
[07:51] <SeraVitae> nope looked happy
[07:51] <SeraVitae> everything succeeded
[07:51] <richiefrich> good
[07:51] <richiefrich> reboot
[07:51] <AWOSDev> I need help with Apache
[07:51] <richiefrich> SeraVitae  --> quit
[07:51] <ElDesconocido> hello all
[07:51] <Citizin|Googling> Ok, I think im getting somewhere, but I ran into another problem.
[07:52] <FrankX> oi oi folks!
[07:52] <SeraVitae> richiefrich - rebooted. still does same thing
[07:52] <eric_souder> hello everyone
[07:52] <Citizin|Googling> Im following this guide, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[07:52] <ElDesconocido> i need help with soft modem
[07:52] <richiefrich> SeraVitae   then you dont have a conf
[07:52] <Citizin|Googling> But, when I attempt to enable the driver, I get this
[07:52] <richiefrich> SeraVitae  -->  root (hd0,0)
[07:52] <Madpilot> AWOSDev, for Apache help, try #apache
[07:52] <Citizin|Googling> citizin@CDesktop:~$ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[07:52] <Citizin|Googling> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[07:52] <Citizin|Googling> This script cannot proceed automatically.
[07:52] <SeraVitae> okay, but shouldn't the official badger release have done this already :/
[07:53] <eric_souder> sounds like the xgl compiz questions have been coming
[07:53] <SeraVitae> done root
[07:53] <FrankX> i canny get it to boot, just get a black screen with a underline cursor at the top left corner!
[07:53] <SeraVitae> done setup (hd0) as well
[07:53] <richiefrich> SeraVitae configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:53] <Citizin|Googling> FrankX, I had that problem with a few distro's.
[07:53] <Skarr> Hey, I need some help: I went to the director that I extracted ndis wrapper to, and I said sudo build but it gave me some error
[07:53] <eric_souder> is anyone available for a question?
[07:53] <SeraVitae> richiefrich - im guessing if i can get it to boot manually once i can update-grub and it should be all good?
[07:53] <Citizin|Googling> Are you using a PCI Card?
[07:53] <richiefrich> SeraVitae whats that line do ?
[07:53] <richiefrich> SeraVitae configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:53] <SeraVitae> file not found
[07:53] <SeraVitae> yeah, it's 404.
[07:54] <richiefrich> thats is your issue
[07:54] <SeraVitae> obviously
[07:54] <richiefrich> you need that file
[07:54] <FrankX> a PCI 'what' card - grafix??
[07:54] <SeraVitae> okay, but i haven't even gotten access to my system yet. how am i expected to do this.
[07:54] <Citizin|Googling> FrankX, yes.
[07:54] <richiefrich> SeraVitae do you have a  LiveCD ?
[07:54] <SeraVitae> yeah, i have livecds but they fail on both of my computers.
[07:54] <SeraVitae> 4 different isos from official source
[07:55] <SeraVitae> and 2 cdrom drives
[07:55] <richiefrich> SeraVitae so none boot ?
[07:55] <SeraVitae> they all stall.
[07:55] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> !nvidia
[07:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:55] <SeraVitae> badger is the only thing i could get to run.
[07:55] <richiefrich> SeraVitae knoppix?
[07:55] <FrankX> I've got one in as I was using it to set up a double head on windowz - can Ubuntu not handle it?
[07:55] <Citizin|Googling> !pci port
[07:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pci port - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:55] <SeraVitae> don't have it handy, and tbh, i'm getting really sick of downloading 700mb isos all day.
[07:55] <Caplain> is it safe to install libc6 2.4.6-6?
[07:55] <Caplain> is it safe to install libc6 2.3.6-6*?
[07:55] <richiefrich> SeraVitae  what do you have ?
[07:55] <eric_souder> i am looking at installing xgl and compiz on an ati radeon xpress 200m pcie 5955, has anyone been able to do it? or atleast know of a how to out there that shows how?
[07:55] <FrankX> all i had lol
[07:55] <Skarr> !ndiswrapper
[07:55] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:55] <Skarr> >	Hey, I need some help: I went to the director that I extracted ndis wrapper to, and I said sudo build but it gave me some error
[07:56] <SeraVitae> richiefrich - about 4 livecds of dapper
[07:56] <SeraVitae> and 1 badger cd
[07:56] <richiefrich> SeraVitae  so all  the same distro
[07:56] <SeraVitae> yeah
[07:56] <richiefrich> SeraVitae  why not try another one... and why di dyou d/l 4 of the samething
[07:56] <A-L-P-H-A> how do I take screen shots of my desktop?
[07:56] <SeraVitae> because i wasn't sure why they were stalling on my pc.
[07:57] <richiefrich> A-L-P-H-A scrot
[07:57] <SeraVitae> dapper fails on all 3 of my computers
[07:57] <SeraVitae> more to the point, any ideas why this would happen? badger was all like 'yey, reboot your computer and you can use it'
[07:57] <Madpilot> A-L-P-H-A, hit the PrintScreen button
[07:57] <SeraVitae> and i certainly cant ;)
[07:57] <ElDesconocido> a ubuntu 6.10 is not free shipit??? 1,5
[07:57] <eric_souder> ?? should be free
[07:57] <Healot> it's free; canonical paid the fee for you
[07:57] <eric_souder> i am looking at installing xgl and compiz on an ati radeon xpress 200m pcie 5955, has anyone been able to do it? or atleast know of a how to out there that shows how?
[07:57] <SeraVitae> richiefrich - if i need a configuration file, is there some way i can just boot linux from grub manually and then update-grub?
[07:57] <richiefrich> SeraVitae  so there all the same thing.. i  bet knoppix will at least  load and make it so you can fix it
[07:57] <Madpilot> ElDesconocido, 6.10 isn't out yet
[07:58] <SeraVitae> rather than finding/downloading another huge distribution?
[07:58] <richiefrich> SeraVitae yes a liveCd
[07:58] <FrankX> cheers folks - am off to work
[07:58] <SeraVitae> i think ill just give up on it
[07:58] <SeraVitae> thanks anyways
[07:58] <themisfit610> hey folks I've got some questions about compiz
[07:58] <SeraVitae> im sick of downloading isos heh
[07:58] <richiefrich> SeraVitae  thats just it you d/l 4 of the same
[07:58] <A-L-P-H-A> Madpilot: okay... installed, and captured... now how do I run it without me running it from the shell?
[07:58] <SeraVitae> from official site with checking MD5's.
[07:58] <richiefrich> and
[07:58] <SeraVitae> on 3 different computers.
[07:59] <SeraVitae> 4 different burns.
[07:59] <SeraVitae> and every time ubuntu has failed in one way or another
[07:59] <A-L-P-H-A> Madpilot: btw, thanks for telling me about scrot.
[07:59] <richiefrich> and why did you dl  the same iso
[07:59] <Madpilot> A-L-P-H-A, you want to do automatic screenshots?
[07:59] <richiefrich> i dont get it
[07:59] <SeraVitae> richiefrich - i appreciate your help but i don't think what i'm saying is getting across to you
[07:59] <SeraVitae> i re-downloaded from the offical *working* ubuntu download site
[07:59] <A-L-P-H-A> Madpilot: I'd like to be able to hit maybe a key-combo, and it'd take a screenshot.
[07:59] <themisfit610> I tried getting the new fork beryl running on 6.06, and some how borked up my nvidia drivers, i am getting a version mismatch when i startx and have to use vesa mode. how do I remove the nvidia drivers and start over?
[07:59] <SeraVitae> badger and dapper
[07:59] <SeraVitae> and NEITHER of them work on 3 computers with various hardware swaps.
[08:00] <SeraVitae> what do you expect me to do ?
[08:00] <richiefrich> SeraVitae   d/l another distro
[08:00] <SeraVitae> download another copy of linux to fix the linux that should already work?
[08:00] <richiefrich> there are many out there
[08:00] <Madpilot> A-L-P-H-A, in the graphical desktop, just hit the Print Screen button on your keyboard... in terminal, I've no idea
[08:00] <SeraVitae> yeah, and that's where i just said i'm getting sick of that, so i'd rather give up.
[08:00] <richiefrich> SeraVitae there not all the same
[08:00] <A-L-P-H-A> SeraVitae: could do basic hardware, and then layer it on top to figure out what doesn't work.
[08:00] <SeraVitae> A-L-P-H-A - i can't get more basic than a motherboard ram and cpu.
[08:00] <ElDesconocido> The current plan is to continue to ship Ubuntu 6.06 LTS, due to it being a long supported release, while Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) will be available for download only.
[08:00] <ElDesconocido> :-O
[08:01] <richiefrich> you need a video card to
[08:01] <SeraVitae> it just doesnt make sense why ubuntu just spent 40 minutes installing all these amazing software packages, then fails to setup grub.
[08:01] <SeraVitae> richiefrich - onboard.
[08:01] <themisfit610> can someone help me get my nvidia drivers re-loaded with the latest 9625 release?
[08:01] <Madpilot> ElDesconocido, yes, that's true. You'll be able to buy 6.10, or just upgrade a 6.06 install to it, though
[08:01] <SeraVitae> i tried it on a 400mhz/64mb, 433mhz/192mb and an xp3000+/2.5gb
[08:01] <richiefrich> SeraVitae so the install cd booted?
[08:01] <A-L-P-H-A> SeraVitae: oh.
[08:01] <SeraVitae> if you haven't noticed right now, im saying ubuntu hates me. :P
[08:02] <A-L-P-H-A> Madpilot: hmm... printscreen only captures one monitor, not all of them.  Oh well. :) thanks.
[08:02] <Madpilot> SeraVitae, the LiveCD isn't likely to run on those first two - nowhere near enough RAM
[08:02] <richiefrich> SeraVitae  then reinstall and select lilo
[08:02] <ElDesconocido> 1,5 Euro$ :-O
[08:02] <SeraVitae> richiefrich - i don't think i got an option to isntall lilo. but i'll look again
[08:02] <Flannel> SeraVitae: if you're just installing grub/bootloader, you don't need to go through the whole install again
[08:02] <richiefrich> SeraVitae  there is
[08:02] <Flannel> SeraVitae: did you use the alternate ISO? or the deskop one?
[08:02] <themisfit610> can someone help me get my nvidia drivers re-loaded with the latest 9625 release?
[08:02] <SeraVitae> i used badger cd
[08:02] <SeraVitae> it doesn't have a live/desktop
[08:02] <SeraVitae> so no 'alternate' per se
[08:02] <Flannel> SeraVitae: alright, sounds good.  Go into expert mode, and next to grub is lilo
[08:03] <richiefrich> do lilo
[08:03] <Flannel> SeraVitae: it'll be all the way down the list, you'll skip all the steps
[08:03] <SeraVitae> right
[08:03] <SeraVitae> will do that
[08:03] <richiefrich> that will work
[08:03] <ElDesconocido> EUR 1.50/CD
[08:03] <SeraVitae> expert mode now
[08:03] <ElDesconocido> :-O
[08:03] <Flannel> SeraVitae: you might have to hit 'back' or 'cancel' or something, whatever the first thing is, to get back to the menu, out of the wizard-ish installer
[08:03] <Chousuke> Lilo is not as flexible as grub though :/
[08:03] <richiefrich> Chousuke not true
[08:04] <SeraVitae> i really don't care though.
[08:04] <SeraVitae> i just want it to boot. its not like im doing any fancy bootloading/multiboot things.
[08:04] <Ackeubu_> hey evolution doesnt remember my password. i have to type it everytime i check my mail. or send mail. how can that be???
[08:04] <SeraVitae> i should point out in expert mode i have access to a shell.
[08:04] <richiefrich> Chousuke lilo doesnt have on feature thats edit on boot which as in with lilo you run 'lilo' b4 you reboot and that tells you if the things are right
[08:04] <SeraVitae> nfi how i could update-grub from it tho.
[08:05] <harisund> In my DHCP server, the client information is stored in the leases file. How do I clean the leases file of computers that are no longer on the network (say, they have been switched off). I see a lot of computers in the leases file that I am not able to ping at all :(
[08:05] <Chousuke> richiefrich: what are you talking about?
[08:05] <ElDesconocido> Alguien habla espaol???
[08:05] <themisfit610> can someone help me get my nvidia drivers re-loaded with the latest 9625 release?
[08:05] <richiefrich> Chousuke your comment on lilo
[08:05] <Chousuke> yeah
[08:06] <Chousuke> I said lilo is _not_ as flexible as grub
[08:06] <richiefrich> Chousuke lilo can boot more computers
[08:06] <richiefrich> and thats not true
[08:06] <NickGarvey> !es > ElDesconocido
[08:06] <Skarr> does amd64 mean any computer that runs on an amd processor?
[08:06] <Skarr> I just found out that I use an amd processor...
[08:07] <Skarr> i always though emachines used intel
[08:07] <NickGarvey> Skarr: no, amd64 means a 64 bit processor
[08:07] <ElDesconocido> thanks you nickgarvey
[08:07] <Caplain> i have a broken package and synaptic wants to remove ubuntu-base, is this safe?
[08:07] <NickGarvey> Skarr: if you do not have a 64 bit processor, do NOT use the amd64 packages/iso
[08:07] <Skarr> NickGarvey: oh, lol
[08:07] <Skarr> NickGarvey: good, ive been using the right thing
[08:07] <upgrdman_> im trying to write a cd, but appearntly some files i have, have invalid unicode name. is there a tool to fix this, or something to fix my problem?
[08:07] <NickGarvey> Skarr: and even if you do, you might want to do 32 anyway
[08:07] <Skarr> well they only have intel x86 and amd x64
[08:08] <Chousuke> richiefrich: Well, I suppose LILO does its job, but you still have to re-install it every time the config changes.
[08:08] <Chousuke> richiefrich: which is unnecessary in grub
[08:08] <Peumaman> hey does anyone know why my max volume in ubuntu is significantly quieter than when i'm running windows?  any drivers i need to install or something?
[08:08] <Madpilot> Skarr, Intel x86 is what you want - that covers the 32bit AMD processors too
[08:08] <richiefrich> Chousuke so
[08:08] <Skarr> oh, ok thanks
[08:08] <Skarr> !thanks
[08:08] <ubotu> Thanks for the help!
[08:08] <NickGarvey> Peumaman: try turning up the pcm too
[08:08] <Skarr> Ha, I knew there had to be a ubotu command for thanks
[08:08] <SeraVitae> because this box has 64mb of ram
[08:09] <SeraVitae> should i do a lowmem install?
[08:09] <richiefrich> Chousuke i just know that it boots more computers and just works.. unlike grub on old harware
[08:09] <SeraVitae> if i can get it to boot and it's happy, i will be putting 192mb of ram in it
[08:09] <Chousuke> But I have to get to lectures
[08:09] <NickGarvey> SeraVitae: YES
[08:09] <SeraVitae> k
[08:09] <NickGarvey> SeraVitae: 64 is very low, I would really not suggest using ubuntu, I would suggest xubuntu (it might work), or damn small linux
[08:09] <SeraVitae> it'll be going up to 192 soon
[08:10] <SeraVitae> actaully
[08:10] <SeraVitae> i have a ubuntu server cd
[08:10] <SeraVitae> i should probably do an install of that
[08:10] <SeraVitae> and then install gdm or some small window manager
[08:10] <[BTF] Chm0d> anyone here get xgl/compiz working?
[08:10] <NickGarvey> SeraVitae: yes, and then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop when you get the RAM
[08:10] <NickGarvey> !xgl
[08:10] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:10] <[BTF] Chm0d> yea tried that
[08:10] <Peumaman> NickGarvey: pcm?  what is that and how would i do it?
[08:11] <SeraVitae> NickGarvey - yeah. i might just run fluxbox tho. i'd be happy with that
[08:11] <SeraVitae> we'll see
[08:11] <NickGarvey> Peumaman: should be an option under the volume control?  (I use kde.. so.. I am not sure)
[08:11] <[BTF] Chm0d> i added what need to in source.lst but im still not able to install compiz-manager and cgwd
[08:11] <bl4cktone> Hey guys got some good places I can pick up some nice screen savers or one you would recommend?
[08:11] <NickGarvey> [BTF] Chm0d: try running "sudo apt-get update"
[08:11] <[BTF] Chm0d> did that too hehe :)
[08:12] <NickGarvey> [BTF] Chm0d: what is the output of "apt-cache search compiz"
[08:12] <[BTF] Chm0d> hmm lemme see
[08:12] <xed2> hey guys, can i mount a ntfs hdd via the live cd of 6.06?
[08:12] <bl4cktone> Chmod check this out
[08:12] <bl4cktone> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[08:12] <SeraVitae> AGHHGHG.
[08:13] <SeraVitae> ubuntu server cd is freaking amd64.
[08:13] <Peumaman> NickGarvey:  what does pcm mean?  that might help me find it
[08:13] <[BTF] Chm0d> whats the url for the pastebin again?
[08:19] <[BTF] Chm0d> bl4cktone i believe I have been there
[08:19] <NickGarvey> Peumaman: no idea
[08:19] <NickGarvey> Peumaman: let me show you a screen shot
[08:19] <bl4cktone> I justed used that like last week to get it working for me and I'm in week 3 of linux :)
[08:19] <Madpilot> SeraVitae, there might be an amd64 server CD, but there's an x86 one too...
[08:19] <[BTF] Chm0d> hmm ill give it a whirl again
[08:19] <[BTF] Chm0d> let you know in a min :)
[08:19] <Ackeubu_> to uninstall hpijs, i have to uninstall gnome-desktop?! What is gnome-desktop? i suppose i need that to run gnome???
[08:19] <Flannel> Ackeubu_: gnome-desktop is just a meta package, it's safe to remove, but if/when you upgrade (to edgy), you'll want to reinstall it
[08:19] <Ackeubu_> Flannel: i am running edgy
[08:19] <NickGarvey> Peumaman: http://nickgarvey.no-ip.org/~nick/kmix.png
[08:19] <Ackeubu_> Flannel, so i should keep it?
[08:19] <[BTF] Chm0d> repositories are broken right now
[08:19] <Flannel> Ackeubu_: then, whenever you upgrade to 7.04, you'll want to reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[08:19] <[BTF] Chm0d> i can't do anything anyway :)
[08:19] <Flannel> Ackeubu_: after edgy is finalized, you'll want to reinstall it, incase some stuff was added at release
[08:19] <Peumaman> NickGarvey: thanks
[08:19] <Flannel> Ackeubu_: but, your system won't break because of not having it
[08:19] <Ackeubu_> Flannel: i better keep it then, I never remember to reinstall it.. ;)
[08:19] <Caplain> note: DO NOT INSTALL UNSTABLE PACKAGES!!! :)
[08:19] <Flannel> SeraVitae: actually, you're probably better off with the Alternate ISO, then do a 'server' install, just like youused to.  since, you won't want the customized kernel most likely.
[08:19] <[BTF] Chm0d> guess i will try this install tomorrow.  have a good night guys peace
[08:19] <ltnelson89> hey, does anyone have any experience with bluetooth keyboard and mice?
[08:19] <NickGarvey> !bluetooth
[08:19] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[08:19] <THX-1138> !bluetooth
[08:19] <NickGarvey> THX-1138: ha! I win!
[08:19] <Ackeubu_> ltnelson89: yes i do. it doesnt work very well for me.
[08:19] <THX-1138> lol
[08:19] <ltnelson89> well i got it work fine... i just need it to auto connect at boot so i can login and stuff
[08:19] <THX-1138> any tips on fonts in WINE?   - fuzzy fonts make me squint.
[08:19] <Ackeubu_> ltnelson89: i might need to give it another shoot. ;)
[08:19] <kraut> moin
[08:20] <CorpseFeeder> well.. I looked at that page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper and it just seemed like a long-winded way of doing what the Nividia configuration utility does anyway, so I said "sod that" and and just bit the bullet and edited the file linux-restricted-modules-common instead of of the file linux-restricted-modules, added the line to diable modules starting "nv" and now I have a working Nvidia card with transpa
[08:20] <THX-1138> << Wipes glassse - nope not much help.
[08:20] <Peumaman> NickGarvey:  thanks, but i can't seem to find anything like that in ubuntu... the only sound menu (under system->preferences->sound) is really basic
[08:21] <NickGarvey> Peumaman: try the command "alsamixer" in the terminal
[08:23] <Peumaman> NickGarvey:   AWESOME!  thank you so much!  it was the pcm
[08:24] <NickGarvey> :)
[08:25] <Tiesiog_bandau> hello, I need help. I have computer with Ubuntu ant there is a printer. How could I connect to this printer from other computer (W XP)?
[08:25] <NickGarvey> Tiesiog_bandau: I think samba is what you are looking for, although I have never done this myself
[08:25] <NickGarvey> !samba
[08:25] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:26] <THX-1138> tieslog - there is a menu item that works perfectly
[08:26] <THX-1138> administration >> Printing.
[08:26] <Ackeubu_> i have 9 ubuntu+9recouvery mode + memtest + gentoo+ windows listings in my grub. hehe. pretty annoying.. i am running edgy. But still have 2.6.15 listings, SO am i still having all files used for dapper on my system?
[08:27] <Flannel> Ackeubu_: remove your old kernels via apt-get
[08:27] <Ackeubu_> Flannel: okay
[08:27] <bawnpa> is there a decent free as in free beer standalone flv player for linux?
[08:27] <ltnelson89> ok... now ive gone through the link given to me for bluetooth... but ive allready done all that, but i still cant get my keyboard and mouse to connect automatically before the login screen.  any more ideas?
[08:27] <SeraVitae> bawnpa - vlc player?
[08:28] <Tristan1848> (I'm having trouble getting video players in linux play storebought DVDs)
[08:28] <bawnpa> i just installed vlc media player 0.8.4 but it doesn't play my files.  maybe i'm doing something wrong.  have you played flv on it?
[08:28] <Tristan1848> what's FLV?
[08:28] <THX-1138> dvdcss - vlc or mplayer is likely what you will want
[08:28] <bawnpa> flash movies
[08:29] <Tristan1848> oh
[08:29] <bawnpa> i'll give mplayer a shot
[08:29] <THX-1138> filetype used by youtube and google isn't it?
[08:29] <bawnpa> yea and a few other no-name services too i believe
[08:29] <ltnelson89> nobody has a clue how to get a bluetooth device to load at boot?  well moot... cuz the forums dont help that much either
[08:29] <Tristan1848> (anyone have a clue on this not playing storebought DVDs thing?)
[08:30] <THX-1138> rc.d for bluetooth - total guess here.
[08:30] <Nagraj> how do i transfer any file from postgres server to my local system
[08:30] <ltnelson89> rc.d?
[08:30] <bawnpa> works with mplayer thanks
[08:30] <bawnpa> wonder why vlc choked on them.
[08:31] <coldboot> I've got the fglrx driver working with dual monitors at 1920x1200, and I had this working fine with gnome+metacity. However, when I use xfce, I can't drag windows between screens, I think they're running a separate instance on both displays. First of all, what's that called? Is XFCE not Xinerama aware? Could there be something wrong with my configuration, where xfce should atually work fine with this config?
[08:31] <bawnpa> :)
[08:31] <THX-1138> It didn't load using  sessions >> startup programs?
[08:31] <Lam_> i used to be able to highlight a music file to "preview" it but it doesn't work anymore. why?
[08:32] <ryctor> how do I get cinerama working in ububtu?
[08:33] <ltnelson89> i dont know if its loading my dongle at boot or not... but i push set them up just before hand so they can connect and nothing happens until i get into the terminal and type "sudo hidd --search"
[08:33] <tengil> how do i setup oidentd to let my internal boxes ident correctly
[08:33] <ryctor> ermhm, let me google it first
[08:34] <tengil> i have tried to google but i aint succeeding
[08:35] <jtkiefer> even following the instructions I've found that windows doesn't seem to like Ubuntu shares that much
[08:36] <Theolustra> jtkiefer, much experience with windows workgroups?
[08:36] <nentis_> nt
[08:37] <jtkiefer> Theolustra, not really that much but the wider network I'm part of requires me to use a specific workgroup so both are forced to be on the same workgroup or else I have to sacrifice the use of the WAN
[08:37] <jtkiefer> including the internet
[08:38] <Theolustra> jtkiefer, workgroup or domain?
[08:39] <Nagraj> hi
[08:39] <jtkiefer> Theolustra, workgroup, for some reason they use that instead of domain controls
[08:40] <Nagraj> any help for downloading files from postgres to local machine
[08:40] <Theolustra> jtkiefer, wierd. So what problem? You have the same username/password on both machines?
[08:40] <jtkiefer> yes
[08:40] <jtkiefer> actually it may be technically different due to caps restrictions
[08:41] <xiambax> hello
[08:41] <Flannel> Nagraj: how you want to interface with it?
[08:41] <xiambax> i just updated my ubuntu box and wanted to add some new stuff to it
[08:41] <Theolustra> jtkiefer, I'm no samba expert but I suspect they make naming compatible with windows
[08:41] <WhiteDeth> whats the best ident server to use?
[08:41] <Theolustra> jtkiefer, you may want to check around on some forums for troubleshooting tips
[08:41] <screechingcat> xiambax : so whats the problem ?
[08:41] <xiambax> whats one of the nicest media players for ubuntu
[08:41] <xiambax> i need to get media apps
[08:42] <screechingcat> Totem-Xine
[08:42] <xiambax> there was  a really nice K media player i used once
[08:42] <xiambax> no i hated totem
[08:42] <xiambax> something for music
[08:42] <screechingcat> Amarok
[08:42] <xiambax> thats it!
[08:42] <THX-1138> mplayer, vlc, xmms, beep media
[08:42] <Theolustra> check out Quod Libet
[08:42] <THX-1138> amarok is good too
[08:42] <xiambax> is amarok in the package manager?
[08:42] <Flannel> xiambax: yep
[08:42] <screechingcat> Yes
[08:42] <Madpilot> Muine for album playing
[08:42] <xiambax> sweet deals
[08:43] <jtkiefer> Thelustra, thanks, I'll do that
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> So I'm pondering switching my keyboard layout, and realized something: while I now know how to do so both in X and on the terminal, I have a bios boot password, and at that level I couldn't _actually_ change it, although by hitting the keys for "password" (not the real one) it could just go in as "gobbledygook" and wouldn't matter for all intensive purposes, right?
[08:43] <WhiteDeth> whats the best ident server to use?
[08:43] <screechingcat> WhiteDeth : did u get it installed finally yesterday ?
[08:43] <ltnelson89> at what time would the dongle start during boot?
[08:43] <xiambax> im normally not this stupid i stopped using linux for a year and there have been alot of advancements!
[08:43] <WhiteDeth> screechingcat: Im in Ubuntu now :D
[08:43] <screechingcat> WhiteDeth : what solved the prob ?
[08:43] <Madpilot> xiambax, totem has advanced too - give it another shot ;)
[08:43] <xiambax> really. i dont like k apps
[08:44] <WhiteDeth> screechingcat: What problem?
[08:44] <screechingcat> xiambax : but make sure it is totem-xine
[08:44] <xiambax> im probably just gonna install fluxbox soon myself :D
[08:44] <THX-1138> tony - wouldn't your bios be loaded before any operating system specs/
[08:44] <screechingcat> WhiteDeth : you were gettin some error during install right ?
[08:44] <xiambax> i havent been using linux for a year and now that im in ubuntu i realized what i was missing
[08:44] <xiambax> speed hahaha
[08:44] <WhiteDeth> screechingcat: Oh, that, haha, you wont believe what I did. I just clicked the continue button and let it install anyway.
[08:45] <screechingcat> WhiteDeth : and it workd ????
[08:45] <xiambax> mmmmm my bridge peircing is being a pain
[08:45] <tonyyarusso> THX-1138: Right, that's why I'm thinking the keymap has no effect, but ultimately it shouldn't matter since what I'm putting in isn't sensible text, but just a unique series of keystrokes for this particular purpose.
[08:45] <WhiteDeth> screechingcat: Like a charm ;)
[08:46] <xiambax> mmmmmmm do msn clients in linux still blow chunks?
[08:46] <screechingcat> WhiteDeth : Cool ! ;)
[08:46] <unimatrix9> hi there
[08:46] <WhiteDeth> hehe
[08:46] <SeraVitae> xiambax - gaim is great.
[08:46] <WhiteDeth> So...still looking for a good ident server. I want my ident fixed.
[08:46] <SeraVitae> im still looking for a nix or java MSN client that is single-window only though.
[08:46] <xiambax> i hated gaim the only thing i kind of liked was aMsn
[08:46] <WhiteDeth> Efnet doesnt like me much with my broken ident.
[08:46] <unimatrix9> how do i install an new x11 mouse theme?
[08:46] <screechingcat> xiambax : aMsn sucks but Gaim 2.0 beta 3 rocks
[08:46] <unimatrix9> gnome desktop
[08:46] <xiambax> i will have to give it a shot
[08:47] <xiambax> personally i wish windows made a linux version of their im client
[08:47] <screechingcat> unimatrix9 : get xcursor
[08:47] <xiambax> WhiteDeth, try irc.prison.net
[08:47] <xiambax> ident problems should go away
[08:47] <WhiteDeth> thats a server.
[08:47] <xiambax> but its an efnet server
[08:48] <WhiteDeth> um, dont I need an ident server running to fix my ident? :\
[08:48] <xiambax> giver a try
[08:48] <WhiteDeth> I AM on irc.prison.net actually.
[08:48] <xiambax> go go ubuntu update!
[08:48] <unimatrix9> i have xcursor
[08:48] <unimatrix9> now i have an theme here on the desktop, where do i put it?
[08:49] <unimatrix9> xcursor theme..
[08:49] <jtkiefer> didn't their used to be an alternate social channel for ubuntu?
[08:49] <screechingcat> !xcursoe
[08:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xcursoe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:49] <Madpilot> unimatrix9, open xcursor & drag the theme file into it's window from your desktop
[08:49] <Madpilot> jtkiefer, #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:49] <Madpilot> !theme
[08:49] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[08:50] <Scottrix> hey peoples...got a compiz question if anyone can help me out
[08:50] <Madpilot> last URL in ubotu's blurb, unimatrix9 ^^^
[08:50] <WhiteDeth> !wine
[08:50] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:51] <Scottrix> been updating compiz, now it has that window manager, but i can't manage to actually apply changes to the compiz settings. any ideas?
[08:51] <Flannel> Scottrix: #ubuntu-xgl
[08:51] <Madpilot> Scottrix, #ubuntu-xgl
[08:51] <Madpilot> heh
[08:51] <Scottrix> :-P
[08:51] <Scottrix> thanks
[08:51] <Scottrix> will do
[08:52] <digimike> hi
[08:52] <unimatrix9> cant find xcursor in the menu...
[08:52] <digimike> having problems with X
[08:52] <digimike> startx, just turns the screen black, cant exit out or anything
[08:52] <digimike> cant boot the box to get into console login
[08:52] <digimike> im going crazy
[08:52] <digimike> someone pleaseeeee
[08:53] <nextstate> I installed ubuntu on my dad's computer. I put in a dvd and totem starts but won't play. So, I install totem-gstreamer. Then I get an error about not using libdvdcss. So, I install libdvdcss from source and I still get the same error. What is the proper route here?
[08:53] <Madpilot> unimatrix9, on my machine it's at System->Preferences->Cursor Selection
[08:54] <Madpilot> nextstate, use totem-xine
[08:54] <screechingcat> nextstate : check out ubuntuguide.org
[08:54] <Nagraj> digimike:while boot press esc button so the u can go to single user mode
[08:58] <nextstate> Madpilot, thanks. I'll check that out next time.
[08:58] <digimike> Nagraj: if I press escape, single user mode is that like the rescue mode option?
[08:58] <digimike> cause I can get into that, but I dont know what to do to fix this
[08:58] <SeraVitae> anyone know of a good guide for setting up bandwith throttling/limiting in ubuntu? its broken in ubuntu documentation
[08:58] <Nagraj> go to /etc/init.d/xorg.conf and check the monitor option in the file
[08:58] <harisund> Hello! cat /proc/meminfo shows my server is running low on memory. What command line tool do I use to find out what programs are hogging my memory???
[08:58] <Winter-Soulstice> Anyone had experience installing nvidia drivers for 64-bit ubuntu
[08:58] <Madpilot> harisund, try "top" - but don't worry too much, memory is there to be used, after all
[08:58] <Winter-Soulstice> harisund: I dont know but dont they have a process manager you can download?
[08:58] <harisund> Winter-Soulstice: neither do I. And this has to be command line only . Madpilot thanks! Didn't think of that ...
[08:59] <jtkiefer> harisund, the easiest command line command for that would be ps
[08:59] <harisund> jtkiefer: how do I get ps to show me memory consumption.
[08:59] <jtkiefer> which will show the processes and has variables to show all the specific stats on them
[08:59] <jtkiefer> hmm
[08:59] <Skarr> !wikidocs
[08:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wikidocs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:59] <sidny4> I have two 160Gb SATA hard drives raided together and would like to install ubuntu on partition 1 (there are two partitiong) The install CD doesn't recognize that there is a raid
[08:59] <Skarr> !ndiswrapper
[08:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:59] <Flannel> sidny4: grab the alternate ISO
[08:59] <jtkiefer> harisund, I'll check the man file, just a sec
[08:59] <sidny4> yup, already have that
[08:59] <harisund> jtkiefer: yes.. me too :)
[09:00] <jtkiefer> I don't remember them all off the top of my head
[09:00] <sidny4> !raid
[09:00] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[09:00] <harisund> oh yeah,ps has tons of command line switches indeed
[09:00] <jtkiefer> harisund, try ps v
[09:00] <jtkiefer> that'
[09:00] <jtkiefer> err
[09:00] <jtkiefer> that'
[09:01] <jtkiefer> that'll show virtual memory usage
[09:01] <digimike> nagraj: what should that option be set to?
[09:01] <harisund> jtkiefer: nice .. will have a further look. Thanks !
[09:02] <jtkiefer> no problem
[09:02] <Axcer> How come evolution won't let me see my mail?
[09:02] <Winter-Soulstice> Someone have wireless question
[09:02] <Axcer> Like it downloads it but it won't let me see it
[09:03] <ianm_> I just want to say, while I've been an Ubuntu user since it started, I just installed for the second time (HD crash), and GOD DAMN is it slick, it got everything down to the volume keys.  and with the live CD I was IMing and listening to internet radio while it installed, by far the best install experience ever.  besides style choices there was no config to do at all, heavenly.  good work everyone :)
[09:03] <jtkiefer> is there an effective way to do system level throttling of virtual memory usage by specific programs?
[09:04] <jtkiefer> ianm, were you using just the livecd or did you have one of the cd's with the extra packages as well?
[09:04] <jtkiefer> ianm, I just installed for the first time the other day just using the livecd and the part that took me awhile was package downloads
[09:06] <mcquaid> hello, i was going to check out edgy by installing it on another drive which is already ext3 with a bunch of random crap
[09:06] <Madpilot> mcquaid, and?
[09:06] <mcquaid> so i unmounted it and tried resizing it to make a swap while still in dapper, it went for a long time but failed on fsck i believe (i missed the msg)
[09:07] <mcquaid> this a new drive that I partitioned in dapper about a month ago
[09:07] <mcquaid> I guess at this point I should run fsck manually on that drive to see if theres an error
[09:08] <kzm> Hi!  I can't seem to re-find my bug report (backport request, actually) in launchpad.  Isn't there a "my bugs" button or something?
[09:08] <mcquaid> i never run fsck manually, is there anything special i should pass? or how do i indicate which drive/partition?
[09:09] <mcquaid> man fsck says i cant specify a mount point instead of /dev/.  I guess it doesn't have to be unmounted to check it?
[09:10] <RawSewage> anyone here experiences with hellanbz
[09:10] <RawSewage> anyone here experiences with hellanzb
[09:11] <Madpilot> kzm, check your own LP userpage, look in the 2nd box down on the left for "Bugs" - then choose "Reported" in the top left box of the next screen
[09:12] <bawnpa> anyone happen to have a list of advertisement website host addresses so i can add them to /etc/hosts so my machine won't resolve them properly :] 
[09:12] <bawnpa> like ad.doubleclick.net
[09:12] <jtkiefer> if I wanted to link to the wastebasket from the desktop where should I point the link?
[09:13] <mikey> i just installed java 5.0. how do i configure apps to use this over other java apps
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> None of my bugs reported have been fixed :(
[09:13] <kzm> Madpilot, thanks.  However, I still can't find my bug.  Wrong launchpad? :-)
[09:13] <Madpilot> kzm, there is only one launchpad.net... LP might hide fixed/closed bugs by default, I can't remember
[09:15] <axcer> Can someone help me out, I can't view my mail in evolution, it downloads the mail and says I have new messages but it won't let me see them
[09:15] <bawnpa> nvm, found such a list <3
[09:16] <mcquaid> gparted failed resizing a ext3 part.  i think it failed at the e2fsck stage.  i unmounted and manually ran e2fsck and get:
[09:16] <mcquaid> /dev/hdd2: clean, 10466/9453568 files, 15445620/18884407 blocks
[09:17] <tonyyarusso> jtkiefer: ~/.Trash
[09:17] <mcquaid> but it reports back instantly.  I don't think that it actually done a thorough check of the drive
[09:17] <mcquaid> do I have to pass some other cmd?
[09:17] <tonyyarusso> jtkiefer: I think if you drag and drop from the trash icon it will create a link.
[09:18] <THX-1138> axcer - gah - Thunderbird was easier to configure. and i didn't get any warnings about mail transfers not complying to the rfc - evolution got uninstalled.
[09:19] <jtkiefer> I'll try that
[09:22] <WhiteDeth> I just installed Wine.
[09:22] <WhiteDeth> but now where is it?
[09:22] <WhiteDeth> where do I run it or whatever? :\
[09:23] <skoenman> hello people me again
[09:23] <skoenman> k if got a question
[09:24] <axcer> it seems alot of people have this problem with evolution on ubuntu, but there seems to be no answer
[09:24] <skoenman> i have 2 cds the one has ubutuserver and the other ubuntu desktop
[09:24] <axcer> I've been searching google for quite awhile now'
[09:24] <dalfz> i need to paste greek symbols into dia, is there a symbol app that can copy symbols to clipboard?
[09:24] <skoenman> i need to add the desktop repository to the server desktop
[09:26] <wickedpuppy> WhiteDeth, type wine in prompt ... what you get ?
[09:26] <WhiteDeth> ahh, comes up with wine commands
[09:26] <WhiteDeth> isnt there a graphical interface for this though?
[09:26] <wickedpuppy> WhiteDeth, well so you can run wine! :P
[09:27] <wickedpuppy> wine ? not that i know of
[09:27] <wickedpuppy> !wine
[09:27] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:27] <wickedpuppy> skoenman, you want to install gnome ?
[09:27] <skoenman> yeah
[09:28] <skoenman> on one of the guide it says to use the command in server called apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:28] <wickedpuppy> skoenman, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:28] <zaggynl> WhiteDeth, http://freshmeat.net/projects/xwine/
[09:28] <wickedpuppy> yup
[09:28] <lavi> hi, when I typed make, I got below error infor.
[09:28] <enat> what do you think the best (resolution, font, DPI) settings are on a 19" monitor?
[09:28] <lavi> aclocal-1.8: cannot open > aclocal.m4: Permission denied
[09:28] <lavi> what's the problem?
[09:28] <mcquaid> can a non-contiguous portions of a drive prevent parted from resizing a partition?
[09:28] <skoenman> this is all good but what then happens is it starts downloading the file and i want it to take it from the cd
[09:28] <WhiteDeth> xwine != wine?
[09:29] <wickedpuppy> enat, depends on the user .... i am using 1280 X 1024
[09:29] <dalfz> how can i enter greek symbols from keyboard??
[09:29] <WhiteDeth> oh
[09:29] <skoenman> i have tried apt-cdrom add
[09:29] <WhiteDeth> graphical interface
[09:29] <mcquaid> e2fsck reports  (13.7% non-contiguous)
[09:29] <skoenman> that thing then only gets 2 pakages
[09:29] <enat> wickedpuppy: hmm .. yeah, 1280x1024 looks good, but it's a little _too_ small i find
[09:29] <mcquaid> gparted failed resizing it
[09:29] <wickedpuppy> lavi, what was the command you used ?
[09:29] <enat> or maybe i'm just used to 1024x800?
[09:29] <skoenman> hmm so now i dont know
[09:29] <wickedpuppy> enat, as i said depends on the user ... yup
[09:29] <WhiteDeth> enat: You find that small? Im running 1920x1200 on a 17" laptop screen.
[09:29] <w01f> !xgl
[09:29] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:29] <WhiteDeth> :)
[09:30] <enat> WhiteDeth: how can you read that? :o
[09:30] <Madpilot> enat, get a larger monitor; 1280x1024 on a 19" looks fine here ;)
[09:30] <skoenman> any idees
[09:30] <WhiteDeth> w0lf: Go to #ubuntu-xgl
[09:30] <wickedpuppy> skoenman, so you got gnome ?
[09:30] <WhiteDeth> enat: Works fine, infact, it's the native resolution of this screen!
[09:30] <zaggynl> WhiteDeth, XWine is a graphical user interface for the WINE emulator. I
[09:30] <skoenman> yeah on the ubutu desktop cd
[09:30] <enat> hrm
[09:30] <wickedpuppy> skoenman, ok then ... whats seems to be the problem ?
[09:30] <mcquaid> enat with lcds you don't really have a choice.  you should always run at the native resolution, anything else will look ugly
[09:30] <lavi> wickedpuppy: I just typed make after ./configure
[09:31] <skoenman> but now how to install the desktop without loosing the info on the server
[09:31] <axcer> The only way I can view mail with evolution is to go select all mail and then use the arrow icons to navigate blindly through emails
[09:31] <wickedpuppy> lavi, the one you are trying to install ... is it not in repo ?
[09:31] <wickedpuppy> have you searched it there ?
[09:31] <enat> mcphail: yes, true
[09:31] <enat> anyways, off to play with some settings
[09:31] <enat> away and some crap
[09:31] <wickedpuppy> skoenman, installing gnome-desktop won't screw up the system ... not to me
[09:31] <skoenman> k
[09:32] <skoenman> ill try it
[09:32] <byen> hello. Anyone know how to enable single window mode in epiphany?
[09:32] <wickedpuppy> skoenman, i suggest back-up though
[09:32] <lavi> wickedpuppy: gail
[09:32] <ianm_> jtkiefer: just the normal CD
[09:32] <skoenman> ne got everything in my head luckily
[09:32] <wickedpuppy> lavi, gail or libgail ?
[09:33] <skoenman> k so whats the command that i use ???wickedpuppy???
[09:33] <wickedpuppy> skoenman, back up or install gnome ?
[09:33] <skoenman> install gnome from the desktop cd??
[09:33] <lavi> wickedpuppy: libgail
[09:33] <skoenman> is there a way???
[09:34] <wickedpuppy> skoenman, you can install from repo ... no need cd ..
[09:34] <wickedpuppy> lavi, libgail is in the repo ... no need to compile it
[09:34] <skoenman> repo???
[09:34] <wickedpuppy> repository
[09:34] <skoenman> hmm k ill try
[09:34] <wickedpuppy> skoenman, open up synaptic and search for libgail
[09:34] <skoenman> hmm k
[09:35] <wickedpuppy> btw ... when you normally have permission problem next time , try sudo ...
[09:35] <lavi> wickedpuppy: the libgail has mirgrated to our testing ENV , so we need to compile
[09:35] <wickedpuppy> lavi, well then up to ya ... sudo make and sudo make install ...
[09:35] <lavi> wickedpuppy, you mean I can not access that file ? but I can `cat` that,
[09:36] <wickedpuppy> lavi cat is read...
[09:36] <wickedpuppy> surely you know about rwx thingy ?
[09:36] <lavi> wickedpuppy: yes
[09:36] <wickedpuppy> great :P
[09:37] <axcer> does anyone here even use evolution?
[09:37] <ianm_> yes
[09:37] <lavi> wickedpuppy: which program would read the aclocal.m4?
[09:37] <nextstate2> i use evolution vicariously
[09:37] <wickedpuppy> lavi, after you did ./configure .. what did you do ?
[09:38] <axcer> but you don't know why I can't see my emails even though its registering that I have emails in my mailbox
[09:38] <ianm_> axcer: filter?
[09:38] <axcer> I just installed it
[09:39] <ianm_> axcer: is there a search in the box at the top?
[09:39] <lavi> wickedpuppy: just `make`
[09:39] <wickedpuppy> lavi, and it gave ya permission problem right ?
[09:39] <axcer> ianm_: yes
[09:39] <WhiteDeth> is there an english version of XWine?
[09:39] <ianm_> axcer: click Clear
[09:39] <bobby> so does anyone know when the final realease of edgy will be out? beggining of october middle or end?
[09:40] <axcer> ianm_: doesn't seem to do anything
[09:40] <WhiteDeth> !xwine
[09:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xwine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:40] <lavi> wickedpuppy: for configure I did get those problem, you mean for make?
[09:40] <wickedpuppy> lavi, yup ... btw if you got problems for ./configure how can you continue with make ?
[09:40] <lavi> wickedpuppy, *I did not get *
[09:41] <wickedpuppy> lavi, oh ok .. well this is what happened
[09:41] <WhiteDeth> is there an english version of Xwine??
[09:41] <axcer> ianm_: so I do have a filter on?
[09:41] <lavi> wickedpuppy: what for?
[09:42] <wickedpuppy> make requires to access system files .. meaning it should only be executed by root .. so in ubuntu use of root is discouraged we use sudo instead ... try sudo make
[09:42] <ianm_> axcer: only if the box has something in it
[09:42] <nextstate2> axcer: stoopid question, you do have Inbox highlighted right?
[09:42] <lavi> wickedpuppy: in our testing env, there isnot sudo application :(
[09:42] <SeraVitae> anyone here use wondershaper?
[09:43] <pebblest`> Hi, how to downgrade Mysql 5.0 to Mysql 4.1. I removed mysql5 but when installing mysql 4.1 it reports that "Aborting downgrade from (at least) 5.0 to 4.1.
[09:43] <pebblest`> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server-4.1_4.1.15-1ubuntu5_i386.deb (--unpack):
[09:43] <pebblest`>  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1"
[09:43] <wickedpuppy> lavi, may i ask what are you using in the testing env ?
[09:43] <wickedpuppy> windows ? linux ? if linux which distro ?
[09:43] <lavi> wickedpuppy: sure, scrachbox
[09:43] <axcer> ianm_: it has nothing in it
[09:43] <wickedpuppy> lavi, i assume its linux distro ?
[09:43] <ianm_> try Folder / Expunge too (syncs things up)
[09:43] <lavi> wickedpuppy: ya
[09:43] <wickedpuppy> lavi, su -
[09:44] <wickedpuppy> and enter the roor password
[09:44] <wickedpuppy> root
[09:44] <kzm> Any way to reduce the speed (resolution) of the mouse?
[09:44] <kzm> (no, xset m doesn't do it)
[09:44] <lavi> wickedpuppy: I got "su: This applet requires root priviledges!" after `su`
[09:45] <wickedpuppy> lavi, su -s .. and enter what did you get ?
[09:45] <lavi> wickedpuppy: got the same :(
[09:45] <wickedpuppy> no no
[09:45] <wickedpuppy> su -
[09:45] <lavi> wickedpuppy: the same :(
[09:45] <wickedpuppy> lavi, you need root account to install stuff ....
[09:45] <wickedpuppy> pls contact your sys admin
[09:46] <lavi> wickedpuppy: wow, ... tnx
[09:46] <wickedpuppy> lavi, are you new to linux ?
[09:46] <axcer> ianm_: I'll stick with mutt..
[09:46] <lavi> wickedpuppy: maybe
[09:46] <wickedpuppy> lavi, i see ...compiling is usually not necessary nowadays
[09:46] <SeraVitae> hey guys, i dont know any progamming or scripting except mirc, and visual basic. i've just installed wondershaper and i'd like to setup a little script or program that pings an IP address like once a minute, and depending on the response, performs a wondershaper command
[09:47] <SeraVitae> any idea where i should start?
[09:47] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu repo has over 15000 software
[09:47] <wickedpuppy> SeraVitae, yes .. #bash
[09:47] <SeraVitae> ok
[09:47] <wickedpuppy> they may be able to help with bash scripting .. or #perl ... or #ruby ... or #python ...
[09:48] <lavi> wickedpuppy: tnx anyway ;)
[09:48] <wickedpuppy> no prob :P
[09:48] <SeraVitae> yeah im gonna try to track down some of my nix bddies
[09:48] <ianm_> SeraVitae: ruby ruby ruby ;)
[09:48] <wickedpuppy> no ianm_ its 3.times puts "RUBY!!!"
[09:48] <ianm_> :D
[09:49] <wickedpuppy> ruby channel is quiet though ...
[09:50] <Skarr> Can someone help me get the .inf for my driver?
[09:52] <Skarr> Guessing that's a no.
[09:52] <screechingcat> Skarr : what's the name of the driver ?
[09:52] <Skarr> WUA 1340
[09:52] <WhiteDeth> How do I start tilda?
[09:52] <WhiteDeth> I've installed it, but it doesnt work :\
[09:53] <Skarr> On the ndiswrapper list it has a link to it but its broken
[09:53] <screechingcat> Skarr : company ?
[09:53] <wickedpuppy> WhiteDeth, how do you found out it doesn't work ?
[09:53] <Skarr> D-Link
[09:53] <screechingcat> ok hold on
[09:53] <WhiteDeth> wickedpuppy: I tried hitting F1 since it said that is the default key/
[09:54] <wickedpuppy> WhiteDeth, come to think of it i never used tilda before ... or know what is it .. lol ... what else does it says ?
[09:54] <WhiteDeth> wickedpuppy: I'll link you.
[09:54] <WhiteDeth> !tilda
[09:54] <ubotu> tilda: Linux terminal which behaves like terminals in shooter games. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.09.1-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 33 kB, installed size 148 kB
[09:54] <WhiteDeth> there :D
[09:55] <wickedpuppy> WhiteDeth, tried typing tilda in shell ?
[09:55] <wickedpuppy> thanks for the info ...version 0.09.1 ...
[09:55] <screechingcat> Skarr : this is the link for ur windows drivers - ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/wua1340/Drivers/WUA1340_driver_100.zip
[09:55] <wickedpuppy> thats ... not even .1
[09:56] <Skarr> i know, screechingcat, but i couldnt find the inf
[09:56] <screechingcat> Skarr : its not in that download ?
[09:56] <Skarr> well
[09:56] <Skarr> I have the disc, but ill look at that download
[09:56] <Skarr> prolly the same thing
[09:56] <WhiteDeth> wickedpuppy: It opened up the settings, but it still wont initiate tilda like it should.
[09:57] <Skarr> if this works, all my pen0rz are belong to you
[09:57] <wickedpuppy> WhiteDeth, i think the program is still full of bug ... its not even 0.1 version yet ....
[09:57] <mcquaid> hmm, is gparted buggy in dapper? it keeps looping trying to resize an existing ext3 partition
[09:57] <WhiteDeth> heh
[09:58] <WhiteDeth> damn, I was looking forward to a cool terminal :P
[09:58] <mcquaid> it starts with e2fsck for ages, then goes to resize2fs then it's back to e2fsck again
[09:58] <wickedpuppy> WhiteDeth, really ... its just a baby :P
[09:58] <WhiteDeth> haha
[09:58] <screechingcat> Skar : inside your download, there should be a .sys file and a .inf file. if anything else is there, just ignore them. take out these two files into a separate direcotry
[09:59] <screechingcat> cd to that directory and install the drivers via ndiswrapper -i
[10:01] <screechingcat> Skarr : download completed ?
[10:01] <mwright1> Hi I have a WG311 wireless pci adaptor  Ibelieve its madwifi-n
[10:01] <mwright1> -ng
[10:01] <mwright1> can anyone direct me to the package so I cvan install it (machine isn't on the net yet)
[10:01] <screechingcat> i have the same thing
[10:03] <screechingcat> mwright which version is your WiFi card ?
[10:03] <mwright1> v3
[10:03] <mwright1> Netgear WG311
[10:03] <deep__> =D
[10:04] <screechingcat> cool. there's a really cool wiki to get a Wg311v3 configured.
[10:04] <screechingcat> here's the link - http://www.jimbo7.com/wiki/index.php?title=WG311v3_LINUX_WIKI
[10:04] <mwright1> cool I'll take a look
[10:05] <Skarr> screechingcat: nope thats the same setup that i tried to find the ..inf on
[10:05] <screechingcat> Skarr : there's no inf in there ?
[10:05] <Skarr> no
[10:05] <iskywalker> hi!
[10:05] <Skarr> its just a setup.exe
[10:05] <Diego> So I downloaded the Ubuntu 6.06 i386 desktop torrent, burned it with Nero. What do I do now?
[10:05] <iskywalker> does someone have a matrox? i have problems with glxheads and with blender...
[10:05] <Skarr> and i already have it set up on windows
[10:06] <screechingcat> Skarr : crap. this is going to be hard
[10:06] <iskywalker> Diego: did you read the manual?
[10:06] <puffy001_col> does anyone know a good cd/dvd burner for gnome?
[10:06] <Skarr> diego: do you want to get rid of windows, duel boot, or just run live?
[10:06] <mwright1> that looks painful for offline installation
[10:06] <Skarr> screechingcat: uh oh
[10:06] <screechingcat> puffy001_col : try GnomeBaker
[10:06] <mwright1> how do I do a rpm -q in dpkg speak
[10:06] <puffy001_col> screechingcat: danke danke ;)
[10:06] <Diego> I'd like to run Live, but ultimately, I'm getting rid of Windows.
[10:06] <wickedpuppy> puffy001_col, gnome baker ... i recommend k3b though .. its kde app .. so if you are only looking for a gnome app then don't try it :P
[10:06] <mwright1> I want to see if a package is installed
[10:07] <mwright1> ie rpm -qa |grep NdisWrapper
[10:07] <Skarr> screechingcat: it does come with 2 .sys's and 1 bin
[10:07] <wickedpuppy> mwright1, dpkg -i
[10:07] <wickedpuppy> or man dpkg
[10:07] <wickedpuppy> -q
[10:07] <mwright1> -i is install
[10:07] <wickedpuppy> wait wait .. -i is install .. sorry
[10:07] <wickedpuppy> yah my mistake
[10:07] <Skarr> Diego: OK, just stick it in there and go to bios settings and choose boot from cd rom (it might do it automaticly) and youll be using live. Once you use it, if you like it you can install it, on a seperate partition or just delete windows
[10:08] <screechingcat> mwright : inside your download, there should be a .sys file and a .inf file. if anything else is there, just ignore them. take out these two files into a separate direcotry. cd to that directory and install the drivers via ndiswrapper -i
[10:08] <Diego> Alright, I'll trythat.
[10:09] <mumbles-out> im bored already . dammit
[10:09] <Diego> Wait. Where are these BIOS settings you speak of. :(
[10:09] <wickedpuppy> Diego, when you boot ya com .. you got to press .
[10:09] <Diego> Alright, thanks.
[10:09] <screechingcat> Skarr : read this, maybe useful - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=146278
[10:09] <wickedpuppy> that will lead ya to bios settings ... or whatever the key is printed
[10:11] <Skarr> screechingcat: sp o just rename the .sys file to .inf?
[10:11] <screechingcat> Skarr : is that what that thread says ?
[10:12] <screechingcat> Skarr : i dont think your supposed to rename your .sys file
[10:12] <MindOfChaos> Hello
[10:12] <KC> Hello
[10:12] <MindOfChaos> Im logged on with a live CD and its loaded in German for some reason
[10:12] <Skarr> it says Inside should be a number of files including that oh-so-prized Dr71WU.inf file! but there is only a dr71wu.sys file
[10:12] <screechingcat> Skarr : Best Bet try #ndiswrapper
[10:13] <Skarr> MindOfChaos: auf wheiderzhen
[10:13] <MindOfChaos> Is there any way for me to change the system langage setting from the console or some thing?
[10:13] <MindOfChaos> ubuntu live cd *
[10:13] <iskywalker> does someone have a matrox? i have problems with glxheads and with blender...
[10:14] <KC> When you boot from a live CD don't you have the option to choose the lang?
[10:14] <mlopes> hi. which is the latest tutorial for installing AIGLX on dapper drake?
[10:15] <Skarr> screechingcat: wait, it says to find the .inf in the c:\ program files \ d-link \ wua \ drivers folder on wine, but i installed it on windows and its not there, and it doesnt seem to work for me on wine- you think i could find it if i used wine?
[10:15] <KC> Has anyone ever had a problem with wireless that goes like this: Can see AP's but can't connect no matter the security settings?
[10:16] <screechingcat> Skarr : try to boot into your windows partition and find it. if not ask for help over at #ndiswrapper
[10:16] <Skarr> screechingcat: i'm on my windows partition and I cant find it... can someone do me a huge favor and try installing a driver in wine on ubuntu?
[10:17] <screechingcat> Skarr : Ok, i'll try. but it'll take me at least half an hour so hold on
[10:18] <KC> Has anyone experinced something like my problem? Can see AP's but can't connect.
[10:19] <screechingcat> Skarr : here's a very useful tutorial mate -http://www.suseforums.net/lofiversion/index.php/t22109.html
[10:19] <weex> KC, i usually do it's via command line, iwconfig and dhclient
[10:20] <Skarr> screechingcat: im pretty sure I just need to rename it :\
[10:20] <zaggynl> help, I'm trying to build a Java app, but the menu option 'Build' is greyed out
[10:20] <zaggynl> (in Eclipse)
[10:21] <screechingcat> Skarr : ok go ahead then, but im not really sure about this since mine worked pretty nicely with ndiswrapper
[10:21] <KC> weex: I have ran iwconfig and it shows the device that has wireless as eth1, shouldn't it be wlan*
[10:21] <Skarr> well ndiswrapper doesnt take .sys files
[10:21] <KC> or does that matter?
[10:21] <weex> it could be ath0, it depends on your chipset
[10:21] <screechingcat> Skarr : there's a native Linux driver
[10:21] <Skarr> what do you mean by that
[10:22] <weex> KC, i don't think it matters as long as 'iwlist scan' works on eth1
[10:22] <screechingcat> see this - http://www.ralinktech.com/drivers/Linux/RT73_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.3.0.tar.gz and this - http://www.ralinktech.com/drivers/Linux/RT71W_Firmware_V1.8.zip
[10:22] <KC> I have not ran iwlist scan - I am in windows now - but doesn't that show you the networks in range correct?
[10:23] <weex> KC, yes
[10:23] <weex> then you'd want to use iwconfig with essid and enc and enc key options
[10:23] <weex> then dhclient eth1 to get your ip addr/dns/gw addr
[10:23] <Skarr> screechingcat: i tried that a long time ago but hte first one has a broken link, and the second one is just a bin file
[10:24] <weex> that's 3 iwconfig calls btw
[10:24] <KC> right
[10:24] <Skarr> oh well im off to try it
[10:24] <screechingcat> Skarr : Ok try rename and install. and then try wine and install
[10:24] <Skarr> it doesnt work on wine for me
[10:24] <weex> getting wireless working in linux is still a pain, but it's huge from a useability standpoint
[10:25] <weex> i am now 70% linux largely because i found a good wifi card(and i can run win in vmware)
[10:25] <KC> Well it seems to be the problem is that I can see the AP's I can edit the key info but it just refuses to connect, I have tried with wep on my AP and with out. Still same thing. I havn't tried those commands but I will give them a ago thank you very much.
[10:26] <househead> morning / evening / afternoon all
[10:26] <weex> cool
[10:26] <drumline_> Ubuntu can do WPA, correct?
[10:26] <househead> quick question... does anyone know of a way to resize an ext3 partition backwards, i.e. to use free space before it?
[10:27] <froud> This may sound like s stupid question, but in what situations is the installer setup menu option "Boot from first hard disk" useful, other than booting from the hard disk if you forget to remove the installation media after a reboot, play?
[10:27] <weex> drumline_: i think so
[10:27] <KC> Thanks everyone!
[10:27] <KC> later
[10:27] <househead> froud: the reason you suggested I presume is the only useful one
[10:28] <mlopes> Hi. I'm trying to install AIGLX but during the install process there seems to be some packages missing
[10:28] <househead> anyone got an angle on my ext3 question?
[10:28] <mlopes> like compiz-manager, csm, compiz-plugins
[10:28] <lavi> hi, DEXCLUDE mean what?
[10:28] <mlopes> I've added the repositories and fetched the updates
[10:28] <mlopes> using dapper drake. any ideas?
[10:28] <froud> househead: what is your install ubuntu boot in local other than MBR
[10:28] <househead> mlopes: I can't seem to find the csm packages ANYWHERE, and my sources.list is HUGE
[10:29] <Healot> !info gparted
[10:29] <ubotu> gparted: partition editor for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 232 kB, installed size 1280 kB
[10:29] <househead> froud: not sure what you mean
[10:29] <mlopes> househead, but it shows up on a lot of tutorials
[10:29] <MistaED> mlopes: compiz-quinn is in the middle of changing the name/package to beryl/emerald for compiz/csm, so you need to sit tight until there are new packages being released
[10:29] <househead> Healot: please dont patronise me
[10:29] <Healot> wtf?
[10:29] <mlopes> MistaED, ok thks!
[10:30] <iskywalker> does someone have a matrox? i have problems with glxheads and with blender...
[10:30] <househead> Healot: i know how to access documentation, the usual case is that ext3 can only be resized up, or to the left, i am looking for an elegant solution to this
[10:30] <MistaED> mlopes: you could try forum.beryl-project.org for some experimental packages for beryl/emerald or look for other ways to get the older compiz/csm *shrugs*
[10:31] <froud> househead: if you install ubuntu GRUB in location other than the MBR, this would mean that the MBR is still intact as it was prior to installation and could there be booted. Or have I got it all wrong?
[10:31] <froud> househead: perhaps another use for "Boot from first hard disk" is in this senario?
[10:31] <weex> househead: if you try to resize it with a lower start what does it do?
[10:32] <weex> or perhaps a lower start isn't an option
[10:32] <AnAnt> can someone help me in confguring whereami, I need to differentiate between 2 cases: 1) That the wifi interface is disabled (radio off)  . 2) that the wifi interface is enabled yet no AP is scanned
[10:32] <househead> what does "lower start" mean?
[10:32] <weex> i mean when you use parted and do a mkfs or something is usually asks for a start and a size
[10:32] <househead> AnAnt: try "iwconfig" from the command line
[10:33] <pebblest`> I need help. How to force install packages in ubuntu?
[10:33] <AnAnt> househead: then ?
[10:33] <househead> weex: yea, but I am resizing an existing partition
[10:33] <AnAnt> househead: how would that work in /etc/whereami/detect.conf
[10:34] <househead> AnAnt: you could use a bash script and the cut command to parse output from iwconfig
[10:34] <weex> househead: the resize option does have a start end so as long as the space is available, the syntax of the command seems to allow it
[10:34] <weex> resize NUMBER START END       resize partition NUMBER and its file system
[10:34] <househead> weex: not sure where I am going wrong then
[10:34] <wolfAlfa> hello, does anyone know what package to install for webdav on apache
[10:34] <weex> househead: where does your partition start?
[10:35] <househead> weex, i sec, will find out
[10:35] <AnAnt> househead: you mean that I can run commands from detect.conf ?
[10:36] <wthww-pmg4> hello all
[10:37] <weex> hello wthww-pmg4
[10:37] <wthww-pmg4> :)
[10:37] <wthww-pmg4> hehe, ubuntu is on my G4 as you can tell from my nick :P
[10:38] <weex> please decipher
[10:38] <NET||abuse> is bluej anywhere in he debs?
[10:40] <Healot> NET||abuse: there isn't any, install the JDK and download the JAR installer from BlueJ's site
[10:40] <Dargor> does anyone know of a spider solitaire clone
[10:42] <NET||abuse> nuts.. Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit
[10:42] <weex> Dargor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider_(solitaire)
[10:43] <Dargor> thanks
[10:44] <NET||abuse> oh wait, it wants gnu.. i have sun java,, is that why it can't load up GtkToolkit ???
[10:44] <jtkiefer> anyone know what folder contents can't be entirely displayed error normally means when trying to view a shared windows directory
[10:44] <jtkiefer> ???
[10:44] <Healot> NET||abuse: whereis java
[10:44] <Chandu> hi
[10:44] <NET||abuse> Healot, /usr/bin/java
[10:44] <Chandu> Where can I get inforamtion on How to create ubuntu custom cd
[10:44] <Healot> ln -s /usr/bin/java
[10:44] <NET||abuse> oh nuts... it's te gnu java 1.4.2
[10:44] <Chandu> I want to create a custom cd with own set of packages
[10:45] <Healot> update-alternative then
[10:45] <NET||abuse> what's the alternatives thing
[10:45] <NET||abuse> Healot, cheers :)
[10:45] <weex> Chandu: look for mybuntu
[10:45] <Healot> update-alternative<tab> --config java
[10:46] <heXLer> hi
[10:46] <heXLer> I have a realy strange mount problem   can somebody help me ?
[10:47] <Healot> !ask
[10:47] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:47] <heXLer> k^^
[10:49] <heXLer> I've mounted a FAT32 windows partition and it works until today  I don't know why but if I start Firefox or Thunderbird (profile folder is on the windows partition) I lose my write rights on this partition and firefox crashes
[10:49] <Healot> the fstab line?
[10:49] <heXLer> w8
[10:49] <NET||abuse> where's good to install bluej? /usr/local/bluej?
[10:50] <Vexor1> good evening everyone
[10:50] <heXLer>  /dev/hda2       /media/windows_c vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=1000,uid=112 0       0
[10:50] <bones> can youtube and google videos work?
[10:50] <Vexor1> can anyone help me with installing freevo ? i am new to linux and am having an issue intaslling the mmpython section?
[10:51] <Healot> NET||abuse: anywhere you think it is good to reside
[10:51] <Healot> heXLer: your current user is?
[10:51] <heXLer> Healot:  1000
[10:51] <Healot> in guid and uid
[10:51] <NET||abuse> ok, well i stuck it in /usr/local/bluej
[10:52] <heXLer> Healot: guid und uid are id 1000
[10:52] <Healot> heXLer: the rw option is missing
[10:53] <Healot> or you could remove the gid/uid options
[10:53] <Healot> yeah, remove the defaults option
[10:53] <wabbers> Hello guys! I would like to mount my windows disk for write and reading. They are already mounted to the ubuntu installation but I am not able to access it. Any clue?
[10:53] <heXLer> Healot: I've mounted my other data partition the same way and it works   and I can write on the window_c until I start firefox
[10:54] <heXLer> Healot: I'll try it
[10:54] <Vexor1> so can any one help me with my problem ?? i am gettin gthe following error when installing mm python unable to execute gcc: No such file or directory
[10:54] <Vexor1> error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1
[10:55] <heXLer> Healot: now it is mounted as root and I haven't any write rights as user
[10:57] <Vexor1> maybe i am not to good at this chat thing . is there any where i can get support ?
[10:57] <Negative_Infinit> ubuntuforums.com i guess :D
[10:57] <Healot> heXLer: option that you need is rw,umask=0007
[10:58] <wabbers> Vexor1: you need a gcc compiler. You may get that by running a command in terminal: ":sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 "
[10:58] <Vexor1> ok thanks negative. i will try there unless u can help me with the issue i am experiancing ?
[10:58] <heXLer> Healot: I have these options in the fstab.  Now I have all rights I need   but after starting firefox  I can't write anything on this partition but the rights don't change
[10:59] <wabbers> Hello guys! I would like to mount my windows disk for write and reading. They are already mounted to the ubuntu installation but I am not able to access it. Any clue?
[10:59] <Vexor1> thanks for that i will give it a try now. sorry for the noobish ness of my questions
[10:59] <Negative_Infinit> vexor: can you tell me your problem?
[10:59] <NET||abuse> awww hell.. i edited my applications menu, added 2 editors to the programming menu,,, bu they didnt' stay.... why???
[10:59] <wabbers> Vexor1: try that command without the : infron of sudo >(
[10:59] <wabbers> bah
[10:59] <NET||abuse> they vanish after i close Alacarte
[10:59] <wabbers> damn desktop.. >(
[10:59] <wthww-pmg4> yey
[11:00] <wthww-pmg4> ok screenys once i put them on imageshack :)
[11:00] <Negative_Infinit> wabbers: try the preferences->disks tool
[11:00] <NET||abuse> infact thy were only ever in Alacarte, and never got onto the Applications menu for real..
[11:00] <NET||abuse> is there a reason it would do this???
[11:01] <heXLer> Healot: I've already reinstalled firfox but I've still this problem
[11:01] <Vexor1> thanks wabbers it seems to be downloading the gcc compiler . ( what ever that is ?) i will try again in a moment to do the install
[11:02] <Healot> can you write a file on that partition?
[11:02] <wthww-pmg4> http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8720/untitleddr7.jpg
[11:02] <wthww-pmg4> theres my screeny :)
[11:02] <Healot> forget firefox for w while
[11:02] <wthww-pmg4> oops
[11:02] <wthww-pmg4> heh
[11:02] <wthww-pmg4> wrong channel
[11:02] <heXLer> Healot: yes i can write a file on this partition
[11:03] <heXLer> Healot: after starting firefox I can't
[11:03] <Healot> heXLer: remount the parition
[11:03] <Healot> and check the mount status after you ran ff
[11:03] <azcazandco> hi people
[11:03] <NET||abuse> dang it...#
[11:03] <NET||abuse> i can't add anything to my menus
[11:03] <wabbers> you welcome Vexor1 :) I would just wish someone was just as nice to me with my problem :)
[11:03] <NET||abuse> Can anyone help me here???
[11:03] <NET||abuse> alacarte isn't working
[11:04] <NET||abuse> I've tried as both my own user and root
[11:04] <NET||abuse> well, gksudo
[11:04] <Vexor1> ok i have downloaded the gcc thing and re ran the command to installl mmpython but i get this
[11:04] <azcazandco> if I backup my home dir onto another partition, can I do a pretty much safe re-installation of ubuntu and then just copy my home dir back accross?
[11:04] <Vexor1> mkellow@mkellow-media:~/mmpython-0.4.9$ python setup.py install
[11:04] <Vexor1> running install
[11:04] <Vexor1> running build
[11:04] <Vexor1> running build_py
[11:04] <Vexor1> running build_ext
[11:04] <Vexor1> building 'mmpython/disc/cdrom' extension
[11:04] <Vexor1> gcc -pthread -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -g -O3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -fPIC -I/usr/include/python2.4 -c disc/cdrommodule.c -o build/temp.linux-i686-2.4/disc/cdrommodule.o
[11:04] <Vexor1> unable to execute gcc: No such file or directory
[11:04] <Vexor1> error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1
[11:04] <NET||abuse> azcazandco, i'd suggest bein picky about what files you copy back over
[11:05] <NET||abuse> changes to script in your home dir won't be happy
[11:05] <NET||abuse> or just prevent overwrite when you do
[11:05] <azcazandco> I just wanna make sure I have my firefox stuff & mail etc
[11:05] <NET||abuse> firefox stuff and mail?
[11:05] <azcazandco> dunno how much else is of importance
[11:05] <eelmoo> secret
[11:06] <NET||abuse> well yeh, you should be able to copy certain files over,, is this bookmarks/layout preferences? and your mail store
[11:06] <NET||abuse> ?
[11:06] <azcazandco> yup
[11:06] <bionoid> Vexor1: sudo apt-get install gcc
[11:06] <NET||abuse> you probably would have to re-attach the mail store to thunderbird or evolution, or whatever you use
[11:06] <heXLer> Healot: the partition is still mounted after I've started ff  but I see that I can't create a new folder
[11:06] <NET||abuse> i need coffee......
[11:06] <Guard] [an> hi
[11:06] <azcazandco> me too
[11:07] <rexbinary> coffee good
[11:07] <Guard] [an> what's the best way to join an active directory domain ?? there are 2 howtos on the wiki: using LDAP or using WINBIND, which is best ?
[11:07] <Guard] [an> please :)
[11:07] <Vexor1> bioniod just did that before and no joy still have same issue
[11:08] <tasuki> Hi, I have a very strange problem with wifi (prism2.5, using orinoco_pci) - it used to be fast (300kB/s) in breezy and sooner and now it is usually very very slow (10kB/s). However, sometimes it gets fast again. The confusing thing is that it happens in *jumps*, there's nothing between 10kB/s and 300kB/s... only these two states are possible.
[11:08] <adit> Say
[11:08] <tasuki> Anyone has any ideas what could cause this?
[11:10] <Vexor1> bioniod: do u have any other ideas ?
[11:10] <Vexor1> bioniod: dose the machine need to restart after the gcc install ? before it can be used ?
[11:11] <heXLer> Healot: as I said  I can create new files folders etc.  after starting ff the filesystem is still mounted all rights are the same  but I get an error message that the filesystem is write-protected  even as root
[11:12] <Healot> heXLer: type mount again, after you ran/closed ff
[11:12] <Healot> lets see the mount permission again
[11:12] <DennyCrane> Hi, I have an odd problem with sound on my laptop, sometimes when I have booted the system the earphones dont work when they are plugged in and they dont cut out the speakers. Other times they work fine. There seems to be no obvious reason, nothing in dmesg either. My laptop soundcard is an onboard sigmatel jobby - running dapper
[11:13] <bones> theres no flash for amd64?
[11:13] <heXLer> Healot: remount it with umount and mount ?
[11:13] <Guard] [an> what's the best way to join an active directory domain ?? there are 2 howtos on the wiki: using LDAP or using WINBIND, which is best ?
[11:13] <Healot> no... just run ff, close it, and check the permission again, using mount
[11:14] <zhossain> guys, i have gcj installed which apparently is a openoffice dependency, but i want to use the "java" jre of the sun-jdk, how do i keep gcj and use sun java ?
[11:15] <mnbvcxz> how do i install a music player in my home directory able to play shoutcast streams, codecs are missing, but alsa is working, have no root permissions.. any ideas?
[11:15] <AbortD> mplayer comes pre installed?
[11:15] <heXLer> Healot: /dev/hda2 on /media/windows_c type vfat (rw,utf8,umask=000)   as in fstab
[11:17] <mnbvcxz> AbortD, no it doesnt
[11:17] <AbortD> on dapper drake?
[11:17] <AbortD> it did for me....
[11:17] <zhossain> guys, i have gcj installed which apparently is a openoffice dependency, but i want to use the "java" jre of the sun-jdk, how do i keep gcj and use sun java ?
[11:18] <Bazzi> zhossain: update-alternative --config java
[11:18] <Bazzi> update-alternatives rather
[11:18] <mnbvcxz> AbortD, im using ubuntu but this is a fedora box at school
[11:18] <mnbvcxz> not afraid of compiling something but dont know exactly what
[11:19] <AbortD> if your   trying to fix fedora then go to a fedora or a redhat chan
[11:19] <AbortD> but if your talking about ubuntu
[11:19] <bones> installed amd64...looks like it was a wasted effort cause stuff doesnt work as well
[11:19] <AbortD> mplayer is pre installed and you need to get codecs
[11:19] <zhossain> AbortD, how do i get mplayer in ubuntu, the repos dont seem to have it
[11:20] <AbortD> mplayer is movie player
[11:20] <freeport> change source
[11:20] <bones> zhossain: i donno did  you add restricted universe multiverse to your apt line?
[11:20] <mnbvcxz> AbortD, yes i know but ppl are generally more helpful in here :)
[11:21] <AbortD> generally they know more than me
[11:21] <AbortD> if your on dapper drake
[11:21] <AbortD> it's pre installed
[11:21] <zhossain> bones, can u explain those universe multiverse things.. i am new in ubuntu, i basically use gentoo at home
[11:21] <mnbvcxz> yes but they dont use it here
[11:21] <jazzrocker> zhossain, those are repositories
[11:21] <AbortD> but all you have to do is install codecs
[11:21] <AbortD> which is
[11:21] <AbortD> !restricted
[11:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:21] <bones> zhossain: yes
[11:22] <bones> zhossain: nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:22] <AbortD> mnbvcxz, are you trying to fix fedora or ubuntu?
[11:22] <jazzrocker> zhossain, it's like an extended version of portage with non-free and oddly-liscenesed stuff
[11:22] <jazzrocker> zhossain, multivers and universe are two of the repos that have a lot of the common software that doesn't ship with Ubuntu by default for various reasons
[11:22] <heXLer> aarg  Healot left.. can somebody help me ?
[11:22] <zhossain> jazzrocker, ok
[11:23] <bones> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse universe main restricted
[11:23] <bones> zhossain: like that
[11:23] <bones> then apt-get update
[11:23] <bones> apt-get install mplayer
[11:23] <lemino> the music doesn't go completely silent when i lower the master to 0. can ayone help me with this?
[11:24] <bones> zhossain: or open synaptic package manager from the menus and look in there
[11:24] <bones> :)
[11:24] <Skarr> OK, I got the inf file and set that for ndiswrapper, but ndiswrapper says I dont have the hardware
[11:24] <zhossain> bones, but i can't find mplayer.. it doesn't exists
[11:24] <bones> zhossain: ok just sec...let me see
[11:25] <jazzrocker> derm
[11:25] <Skarr> !ndiswrapper
[11:25] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:25] <jazzrocker> wouldn't it be better to add them via synaptic?
[11:25] <bones> zhossain: are you using dapper?
[11:26] <lemino> anyone who knows about this problem?
[11:26] <jazzrocker> lemino, turn off your speakers?
[11:26] <zhossain> bones, i am using 6.06 LTS.. god knows what that means.. i guess Ubuntu uses too many jurgeons of its own :P gotta learn a new language i guess :P
[11:27] <jazzrocker> lemino, mine have a power switch as most of them usually do
[11:27] <jazzrocker> zhossain, that's a lot of guessing
[11:27] <zhossain> jazzrocker, bones what is this dapper thing ?
[11:27] <bones> zhossain: you just have to goto the synaptic package manager in the System/administration menu and click repositories add to add that url to get the stuff deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse universe main restricted
[11:27] <jazzrocker> zhossain, dapper is the code name for the os you are using
[11:28] <Gekitsuu_> zhossain: Think of it as something easier to remember that 6.06LTS
[11:28] <Gekitsuu_> that=than
[11:28] <zaggynl> Dapper :>
[11:29] <lemino> jazzrocker: hmmm.... that doesn't sound like a easy solution.
[11:29] <zhossain> bones, aha.. i got it now.. so what the different names.. dapper, then what else ?
[11:29] <zaggynl> Breezy
[11:29] <Gekitsuu> warty
[11:29] <jazzrocker> lemino, lol... omg... because turning of the power switch on your speakers is *sooooo* hard
[11:29] <zaggynl> Edgy or something
[11:29] <adit> hello i wanna to join this chat, may i?
[11:29] <zaggynl> xD
[11:29] <frogzoo> any good resource for getting setting up iptables as painlessly as possible ? (no gui, rc scripts)
[11:29] <zaggynl> adit, you just did
[11:29] <jazzrocker> adit, no
[11:30] <jazzrocker> frogzoo, tldp.org ?
[11:30] <frogzoo> !docs > zhossain
[11:30] <lemino> jazzrocker: when I mute the master, everything goes silent, just as it's supposed. but when I lower the master to 0, I still hear the music.
[11:30] <Gekitsuu> frogzoo: what are you trying to do with iptables block, nat or other?
[11:30] <zaggynl> that cracked me up haha
[11:30] <adit> ok, i follow the "no" answer thaks
[11:30] <jazzrocker> lemino, so where's the problem
[11:30] <frogzoo> jazzrocker: looking for ubuntu specific details of setting up iptables with rc scripts
[11:31] <lemino> jazzrocker: that the music don't go completely silent when I lower the master to 0. as I see it that should be the same as muting it.
[11:31] <frogzoo> Gekitsuu: i can handle the rules, I want a standard way of managing rules through scripts that integrates nicely with the debian style networking
[11:31] <jazzrocker> lemino, so where is the *problem*
[11:32] <Gekitsuu> personally I just have my firewall called from rc.local. If you wanted to have it come up before networking you could write an init.d script and put it in the order before networking comes up
[11:32] <lemino> jazzrocker: well, I would like to be able to controll the volume, that's all.
[11:32] <jazzrocker> lemino, if you want your volume level to be zero, why would you want to have the empty speaker his in your face anyway?
[11:32] <jazzrocker> lemino, you *can* control the volume
[11:32] <bones> what version release do i use for amd64 so that everything will work except the amd64 release?
[11:33] <bones> i386?
[11:33] <jazzrocker> hahahah
[11:33] <jazzrocker> bones, yes use x86 for now
[11:33] <frogzoo> Gekitsuu: I have a lot of interfaces that I bring up/down constantly, so I'd like to work it in with the /etc/network/interfaces script, but want a standard way of doing it, so I don't have to redo it with every new release
[11:33] <bones> have to reinstall...shame
[11:33] <jazzrocker> bones, x86_64 still has "issues" with various things that you probably don't wanna deal with
[11:33] <lemino> jazzrocker: well, do you have any idea on how I could get what I want? from my understanding this isn't the way it works normally.
[11:33] <jazzrocker> bones, e.g. flash
[11:33] <zhossain> bones, so what is the code name for 6.06LTS
[11:33] <zhossain> ?
[11:34] <frogzoo> Gekitsuu: or does iptables allow for managing rules for interfaces that don't exist yet ?
[11:34] <jazzrocker> lemino, no i don't know how you can get what you want, but i do know that you should (theoretically) be capable of modifying the "way you just absolutely MUST understand things for your universe to stay intact"
[11:34] <bones> zhossain: you mean dapper? there are im not sure...3 different sets of ubuntu versions called repositories
[11:34] <Gekitsuu> frogzoo: It did when I was doing that on redhat I Haven't tried it since I switched to Ubuntu I can't imagine they've taken that feature away in newer versions of netfilter
[11:35] <jazzrocker> lemino, in the world of computers, there is *never* a right solution, only many non-optimal solutions from which you must choose and or combine the lesser of the non-omptimal
[11:35] <frogzoo> Gekitsuu: cool, well that should make things easier I hope, thx
[11:35] <ubachoo> hi all
[11:35] <bones> zhossain: and those key words like main is the main distro part...the rest is like add ons
[11:36] <jazzrocker> lemino, the behavior you want is already defined... it's called *turning off your speakers"
[11:36] <bones> restricted...universe..multiverse etc
[11:36] <jazzrocker> lemino, if you can't figure that out, i can't help you
[11:36] <zhossain> bones, no no, i was asking if there is any code name for 6.06LTS version of Ubuntu ?
[11:36] <ubachoo> whats that reconfiger command you can run if your x windows dies
[11:36] <jazzrocker> zhossain, yes. ther. is.
[11:36] <jazzrocker> zhossain, we *told* you already: Dapper
[11:36] <ubachoo> like if you swap grafics cards
[11:36] <zhossain> jazzrocker, o ok
[11:36] <zhossain> great
[11:37] <frogzoo> zhossain: 6.06 LTS is known as Dapper Drake
[11:37] <jazzrocker> ubachoo, sudo dpkg --reconfigure xorg (i think)
[11:37] <bones> yes dapper is the one you are using
[11:37] <ubachoo> jazzrocker: chears
[11:37] <lemino> jazzrocker: so you mean, that if you your normal stereo at home still poured out a little music when you had lowered the volume to 0, you would just be satisfied and turn it completely off (if you wanted it to be silent for a minute or two)?
[11:37] <wnoronha> errr
[11:38] <wnoronha> ainat there no ubuntu ppc channeL?
[11:38] <ubachoo> jazzrocker: isn't there one that like takes you thru all settings  like mouse and everything
[11:38] <ubachoo> all in one
[11:38] <NET||abuse> Can someone please help me sort out this menu lark...
[11:38] <NET||abuse> i can't add new applications to my menus
[11:38] <jazzrocker> lemino, if i wanted no more sound, i would, indeed, turn it off, not down
[11:38] <NET||abuse> alacarte doesn't want to add new entries
[11:38] <NET||abuse> i've tried as myself and gksudo'd
[11:38] <NET||abuse> but it doesn't apply the changes to the menu
[11:38] <NET||abuse> and they aren't there in alacarte when you start it again
[11:39] <jazzrocker> lemino, if i wanted to pause my music, i would in fact, hit the pause button on my media player, rather than turning my volume down <- appropriate action for the appropriate task
[11:39] <jazzrocker> !tell NET||abuse about enter
[11:40] <lemino> jazzrocker: I admit this isn't that big of a problem but I still can't let go of the thought that something isn't working exactly as it should.
[11:40] <lemino> jazzrocker: are you telling me that your system behaves the sam way as mine?
[11:41] <bones> am i likely to have problems installing the video card with i386? nvidia driver etc?
[11:41] <AbortD> happens like that sometimes lemino just like when i hover over a song it wont preview
[11:41] <AbortD> get used to it
[11:41] <bones> i did with amd64
[11:41] <bones> will i have to use alternate i386?
[11:42] <jazzrocker> lemino, i don't know, i've never thought about it or cared... when i want zero volume, i simply turn my speakers off
[11:42] <NET||abuse> fine fine, i won't do that... but this is a simple isue, googl doesn't seem to have the answer.. i don't know... it just wont update my menus.. I wish i could do this.. i have 2 editors, Zend Studio and BlueJ that i want to be able to launch,, and it's very annoying having to go though a big long startup path that chances are i'll either get wrong, or at some stage forget
[11:42] <Lunar_Lamp> jazzrocker - not an option for those of us on laptops
[11:42] <Lunar_Lamp> however, lemino : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1535110 <== 2nd page has what you want i think
[11:42] <jazzrocker> Lunar_Lamp, hahahaha, i have no respect for laptop speakers
[11:42] <froud> Ubuntu Alternate CD 6.06 what's the diffeence between  options "Install in text mode" and "Install a server"?
[11:43] <jazzrocker> "laptop speakers" is an oxymoron
[11:43] <NET||abuse> and i'd rather not clutter up my desktop with more icons... so alacarte menu editor seemed to be the bst way.. now this thing just won't apply or hold the additions i make
[11:43] <Tyk0s> someone that understand my problem i have? i just finished installation of ubuntu server, and when it boot the computer restarts over and over again.. :(
[11:43] <bones> froud: i think the cd contains all the stuff for a desktop
[11:43] <NET||abuse> Tyk0s, is it on the grub menu? did you do a multi boot install (window and linux)
[11:43] <bones> froud: and the server contains just for server
[11:43] <Tyk0s> nope just ubuntu atm.
[11:43] <froud> bones: so you mean text install mode installs the desktop
[11:43] <NET||abuse> Tyk0s, hmm, what stage does it get to?
[11:44] <froud> bones: and server is headless
[11:44] <bones> froud: alternate should install desktop yes
[11:44] <NET||abuse> Tyk0s, up to post(hardware issue) or past that into grub (boot loader issue) or does it try to get into ubuntu itself.. and then fail (reload ubuntu ! )
[11:44] <Tyk0s> its counting down 3,2,1 then it says "booting kernal somthing
[11:44] <NET||abuse> ok.
[11:44] <froud> bones: when in text mode?
[11:44] <NET||abuse> ah,,, so it's loading kernel then fails
[11:44] <bones> froud: right for if you have video driver issues i guess
[11:45] <Tyk0s> yeah restarting the computer everytime it gets there
[11:45] <froud> bones: thx
[11:45] <frogzoo> Tyk0s: the 3,2,1 is grub - & then it should boot - where does it crash/reboot ?
[11:45] <NET||abuse> Tyk0s, can you select safe mode in the list of boot options there and get it running?
[11:45] <bones> like i did when i installed amd64 desktop...i had driver inssues so i couldnt install it
[11:46] <Tyk0s> pressed esc now.. and i have 3 choices to make
[11:46] <frogzoo> Tyk0s: recovery
[11:46] <heXLer> Hi my mounted fat32 filesystem becomes read-only after a while of usage  can somebody help me ?
[11:46] <frogzoo> Tyk0s: that will boot single user
[11:46] <NET||abuse> yup, recovery
[11:46] <frogzoo> Tyk0s: see if that works first
[11:46] <Tyk0s> ubuntu, kernal 2.6.15-26-server, ubuntu, kernal 2.6.15-26-server (recovery mode), ubuntu memtest86+
[11:46] <Tyk0s> those 3
[11:46] <jazzrocker> NET||abuse, so why not just use a launcher panel on autohide?
[11:47] <frogzoo> Tyk0s: please pay attention "kernal 2.6.15-26-server (recovery mode)"
[11:47] <Tyk0s> okey try recovery now
[11:47] <bones> froud: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/606
[11:47] <Tyk0s> restart : /
[11:47] <NET||abuse> jazzrocker, cause i'd rather solve problems than ignore them
[11:47] <jazzrocker> NET||abuse, a launcher panel is not a solution to your "problem" ?
[11:47] <frogzoo> Tyk0s: :-(
[11:47] <NET||abuse> that's the way of politititions
[11:47] <jazzrocker> NET||abuse, your stated problem is that you want a way to launch apps without cluttering your desktop
[11:48] <Tyk0s> don't know what to do : /
[11:48] <jazzrocker> you mean poloticians?
[11:48] <jazzrocker> lol, politicians
[11:48] <frogzoo> Tyk0s: any problems during install ?
[11:48] <bones> does the i386 distro use the latest nvidia driver?
[11:48] <NET||abuse> jazzrocker, yeh, ok, so it would achieve the same result,, but a secondary problem is that alacarte doesn't work, and what happens when i want to add something to the menu again?
[11:48] <jazzrocker> bones, not unless you configure it to
[11:48] <Tyk0s> it came some error "not valid cd or something" blabla may cause problems later
[11:48] <jazzrocker> NET||abuse, in that case i don't know
[11:48] <NET||abuse> bones, no, nvidia driver is nonfree,
[11:49] <Tyk0s> downloaded it from ubuntu.com
[11:49] <bones> so its possible it wont work with my video card?
[11:49] <jazzrocker> bones, but there is an nvidia driver you can get via the repos
[11:49] <NET||abuse> bones, so you have to add nonfree deb to sources.list and then install nvidia-binary
[11:49] <frogzoo> Tyk0s: something like incorrect md5 checksum ?
[11:49] <Tyk0s> hmm dont remember..
[11:49] <bones> should i install alternate i386 then?
[11:49] <Tyk0s> shall i burn it to a dvd instead of cd?
[11:49] <jazzrocker> bones, omg, dude, your video card will work. whether it has the proprietary accelerated drivers installed and working i don't know.
[11:49] <NET||abuse> bones, non free is annoying that, it's not open,, but they work very well, i use em at home and they're fine
[11:50] <frogzoo> Tyk0s: shouldn't matter - maybe burn it again at 1/2 maximum speed - then check the md5 if you can
[11:50] <jazzrocker> bones, if you had an ATI card i'd be apt to say that it wouldn't work but you've got nVidia and nVidia on linux works well
[11:50] <NET||abuse> ATI i use on my lappy, i use radeon, works better for some reason, and i run Xgl
[11:50] <bones> with amd64 desktop i couldnt instal it cause it didnt have a problem driver to boot
[11:50] <bones> proper
[11:50] <Tyk0s> the server is on 698mb and nero express warning me that the file is bigger then the cd (i use 700mb 52x cd's)
[11:51] <NET||abuse> jazzrocker, so you don't have any clue on how to get this alacarte working? thanks for the suggetion to use auto hide launcher panel,, it's a good idea
[11:51] <bones> so i used alternate text install
[11:51] <GLF> Any help for sound driver issue on old Dell GX1? Crystal Semiconductor CS423X.
[11:51] <frogzoo> Tyk0s: it's typical for the iso to be bigger than media's capacity
[11:51] <frogzoo> Tyk0s: that's not a problem
[11:52] <jazzrocker> bones, x86 should be fine. as i said, 64 still has plenty of quirks
[11:52] <Tyk0s> okay.. any ideas what to do then? :)
[11:53] <jazzrocker> Tyk0s, don't use nero?
[11:53] <Tyk0s> why not? :)
[11:53] <jazzrocker> Tyk0s, CDBurnerXP Pro is free and IMO better
[11:53] <jazzrocker> Tyk0s, because it's being retarded?
[11:53] <Tyk0s> shouldnt matter? or
[11:53] <frogzoo> Tyk0s: use nero to validate the burnt cd
[11:54] <Caplain> software is as retarded as the programmer/user
[11:54] <Tyk0s> ok
[11:54] <frogzoo> Caplain: that bad ?
[11:54] <Caplain> which is why we are not using windows
[11:54] <Caplain> :)
[11:54] <bones> windows killed computing
[11:54] <Caplain> so did solitare
[11:54] <jazzrocker> minesweeper!
[11:55] <Caplain> windows killed the dinosaurs
[11:55] <bones> developers! developers! developers!
[11:55] <bones> >:)
[11:55] <jazzrocker> bones, you rang?
[11:56] <NET||abuse> bones, is your surname ballmer?
[11:56] <bones> lol
[11:57] <lemino> jazzrocker: This is what I'm talking about: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/alsa-utils/+bug/16454
[11:57] <Caplain> if this was #gentoo there would be /ban's flying all over the place
[11:57] <lemino> Lunar_Lamp: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/alsa-utils/+bug/16454
[11:57] <Caplain> bug == feature
[11:58] <Caplain> how many times can i get my system to crash so i have to do a hard reboot before my filesystem fails?
[11:59] <kritical> Does anyone know how to map one directory to another?... I can never remember
[11:59] <Caplain> ln -sf
[11:59] <Caplain> ln -sf origional link
[11:59] <kritical> Cheers =)
[11:59] <SpaceFrog> Is there a Flash Player 9 for Linux?
[11:59] <Caplain> ln -sf /dev/null / :-D
[11:59] <jazzrocker> SpaceFrog, only 7 i think
[11:59] <beanz> Ubuntu does not seem to include a script to seed torrents at boot - is this right?
[12:00] <jpjacobs> SpaceFrog, not yet.. they are working on that..
[12:00] <Caplain> isnt flash os independant?
[12:00] <SpaceFrog> Ah, okay
[12:00] <Caplain> unless you use wine
[12:00] <SpaceFrog> I might just install Wine/Firefox.
[12:00] <bones> SpaceFrog: i think i just saw only 7
[12:01] <jazzrocker> SpaceFrog, personally I'd go with vmware-server/firefox if you really want flash
[12:01] <bones> SpaceFrog: oh unless you mean for making flash there isnt one afiak
[12:01] <whyme> hi there - does hotkey-setup package work for asus laptops as well
[12:01] <whyme> ?
[12:01] <Naseer> can anyone help me setup my internet connection by lan using pptp
[12:01] <jazzrocker> SpaceFrog, cuz wine apps don't run/render the same as the "native" versions inside vmware
[12:01] <Caplain> you could cheat and "wine Flashinstaller.exe" to your linux firefox....tell me if it makes your system go crazy
[12:01] <jazzrocker> heh
[12:01] <SpaceFrog> hehe
[12:01] <SpaceFrog> That is another idea
[12:01] <SpaceFrog> i'll see how i go
[12:01] <SpaceFrog> thanks
[12:01] <Caplain> Naseer: oh boy...where to start!
[12:02] <TLE> Hey. I'm looking for a list of graphics cards and their useability in Ubuntu. I think I'va heard of such a thing but I can't seem to find it. Could you point me in the right direction ?
[12:02] <jazzrocker> SpaceFrog, bad idea, but it is another one... vmware-server is free by the way
[12:02] <Caplain> TLE: ati and nvidia are very supported, nvidia doublyso
[12:02] <arvind_> for once i need to rename file htaccess.txt to .htaccess how to do that...mv command if ran vanishes the files
[12:03] <Naseer> can anyone help me
[12:03] <bones> but the topic should say video card might not work with amd64 desktop/use alternate
[12:03] <Caplain> arvind_: .filename files are hidden unless you do a ls .*
[12:03] <frogzoo> arvind_: ls -a
[12:03] <Lunar_Lamp> avrind_ to see the file you will need to "ls -a" as files prefixed with "." are hidden
[12:03] <Caplain> Naseer: whats your config? i did a pptp once
[12:03] <SAngeli> Hi, I am having troubles configuring my usb digital camera (digiKam). FujiFilm E550 usb. Anyone can please help?
[12:04] <Naseer> i don't know how to make my internet connection
[12:04] <arvind_> thanks Caplain  and frogzoo  :)
[12:04] <Naseer> i have installed ubuntu yesterday
[12:04] <Caplain> Naseer: and what type of connection do you have?
[12:05] <Naseer> i am using lan & i connected by WAN Miniport (PPTP)
[12:05] <Lunar_Lamp> how do i set up xchat so that double clicking on a nick will open a pm window? i don't like having to right click and select open dialog window
[12:05] <Naseer> for windowsxp they provided me with the setup
[12:05] <Caplain> hmmm
[12:05] <bones> with k3b burn an iso to dvd?
[12:06] <rofl0r> Lunar_Lamp, you can download the source and change it
[12:06] <Lunar_Lamp> so there's no config option then?
[12:06] <rofl0r> or se another client
[12:06] <Caplain> Naseer: usually a pptp connection is a tunnel that is used over an existing internet connection
[12:06] <xopher> Lunar_Lamp, Im sure you can set an option to do that
[12:06] <Naseer> ok
[12:06] <xopher> but I dont know what or where so
[12:06] <Lunar_Lamp> xopher - seemed to me the kind of thing you should be able to do
[12:06] <physicsnick> hey all, i have a question about my printer
[12:07] <Naseer> so how could do it in ubuntu
[12:07] <JohnRobert> can anyone tell me when the next release of ubuntu will be out?
[12:07] <TLE> Caplain: Sorry my bad, perhaps I should have specified it better. I have a ATI X800XL and I am NOT impressed with the current state of the official drivers, so I'm gonna try an trade it with some windoze user for a Nvidia card, so what I'am looking for is info on which Nvidia cards works better for people than others
[12:07] <physicsnick> whenever i print anything out of kpdf, its shifted upwards
[12:07] <physicsnick> like it starts at the very top of the page (no margin whatsoever) and there's about an inch and a half blank space at the bottom of the page
[12:07] <physicsnick> how can i have it center the pages?
[12:07] <SAngeli> Hi, I am having troubles configuring my usb digital camera (digiKam). FujiFilm E550 usb. Anyone can please help?
[12:07] <rofl0r> JohnRobert, afaik there is a new version in october
[12:08] <JohnRobert> super!
[12:08] <rofl0r> 6.10
[12:08] <JohnRobert> stable release?
[12:08] <Caplain> TLE: i have an nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] 
[12:08] <rofl0r> sure
[12:08] <Caplain> and it works very well
[12:08] <Naseer> CAplain:
[12:08] <JohnRobert> I need an excuse to format my hard disk back to ext3...basically I cba with trying to get a xen kernel to work with rieserfs
[12:08] <Caplain> Naseer: i still dont understand your current lan setup
[12:08] <TLE> rofl0r: Yeah but when in October *TLE stumps his feet in the ground like a litle kid
[12:09] <Naseer> so no one could help me
[12:09] <Caplain> Naseer: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-91249.html
[12:09] <Caplain> that should help you out
[12:10] <Naseer> i want to completely swtich over to ubuntu from windows but just because of that i could not switch over
[12:10] <Caplain> Naseer: www.google.com is your friend!
[12:10] <Caplain> my switch over involved mke2fs -j /dev/hda1
[12:10] <Caplain> it was a nice switchover
[12:11] <Caplain> took care of that nasty bootvirus i had that kept displaying Windows XP at start up
[12:11] <Caplain> btw....dont go and run that command before you read about it
[12:12] <TLE> Caplain: ok, thanks, but.. I was hoping to get input from more than one person, hence the searching for a hardware compatility list
[12:13] <Caplain> TLE: did you google for one? thats what ide do
[12:13] <Caplain> TLE: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2457.html
[12:13] <Caplain> took me less than 5 seconds....
[12:13] <Caplain> :P
[12:14] <physicsnick> Question: Adobe Acrobat won't print, although other programs print fine. I assume my "printer command" line is wrong; where do I find the proper command?
[12:16] <tizwon> tcp tizwon version
[12:22] <dalfz> why does suddenly add/remove programs tell me i have the wrong admin password?! i don't have the wrong password
[12:23] <TLE> Caplain: Yeah, I just found that myself :$ It must have been the inclusion af compatility to the search terms that did it, because before I just ended up with getting a lot of support requests.
[12:23] <nomad111> can any1 help me please
[12:23] <nomad111> its to do with my screen resolution
[12:23] <SpComb> don't ask to ask - ask
[12:24] <nomad111> well i cant get my screen resolution to go higher than 1024 x 768
[12:24] <nomad111> which is terrible
[12:24] <nomad111> i have an intel 945gm chipset
[12:24] <nomad111> and i installed i915 resolution package
[12:25] <azza_008> i think i screwe my pc
[12:25] <azza_008> please help
[12:25] <SportWilly> does anyone know howto configure a Kworld xpert pvr 878 tv card?
[12:26] <azza_008> please help me man
[12:26] <azza_008> som1
[12:26] <azza_008> some1
[12:26] <azza_008> i formatted the 2 linux drives and now when i reboot it says grub can ] t load
[12:26] <TLE> Caplain: There's a link to a list in the wiki, but it does not seem to be to comprehensive though. I suppose I'll just have to serach specifically when I find a card if it is not in the list
[12:26] <SportWilly> or a tv card in general?
[12:28] <azza_008> i formatted the 2 linux drives and now when i reboot it says grub can ] t load
[12:28] <hastesaver> Hi, does anyone know how to start a (local) mailing list? Does one need root access?
[12:28] <azza_008> i formatted the 2 linux drives and now when i reboot it says grub can ] t load
[12:28] <hastesaver> !repeat
[12:28] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:29] <azza_008> ok
[12:29] <TLE> SportWilly: try searching for mythtv
[12:29] <azza_008> im just upset
[12:29] <dalfz> what do i need to enter greek letters into whatever editor?
[12:29] <dalfz> i got english setup
[12:29] <hastesaver> azza_008, understandable. But if you've just formatted all partitions, how do you expect grub to load? (Or is there more?...)
[12:30] <homme_seul> how to change my system's encoding to utf8 ?
[12:30] <hastesaver> dalfz, you could use the scim input plugin...
[12:30] <azza_008> well i still hasve windows
[12:30] <TLE> homme_seul: Ubuntu uses uft8 per default
[12:30] <homme_seul> TLE and if i want to change it ?
[12:31] <jazzrocker> dalfz, use vim!
[12:31] <jazzrocker> :)
[12:31] <dalfz> hastesaver, i been trying that for an hour or so. i don't even know if it's installed right
[12:31] <azza_008> but even if i try to boot from CD drive it says error 22
[12:31] <SportWilly> TLE : i got mythtv, tvtime and kdetv but none works, i included options bttv i /etc/... but still nothing
[12:31] <TLE> homme_seul: dalfz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[12:31] <hastesaver> dalfz, I got it to work at home... but I had some problems too; I don't remember. Try rebooting ;-)
[12:32] <azza_008> is grub on the windows partition
[12:32] <hastesaver> dalfz, By which I mean, zap X and restart it. That should be enough. Probably just logging out and back should be enough...
[12:32] <Pierre> SportWilly, check linuxtv.org, use the latest v4l drivers (you can compile them alone, without compiling a new kernel)
[12:32] <hastesaver> azza_008, you *should* be able to boot from the CD drive; that happens before grub takes over
[12:33] <dalfz> hastesaver, i just need a greek letter in my damn science report :P it appears in openoffice, but i'm unable to change font in dia
[12:33] <azza_008> well ill tell u what happens
[12:33] <hastesaver> dalfz, that's why you should use LaTeX for science reports ;)
[12:34] <dalfz> hastesaver, i use latex.. and i use dia for figures :) and i need a greek symbol in my figure this time
[12:34] <SportWilly> YES!!! worked,  i was using wrong tuner type
[12:34] <infidel> can someone give me an ideal of an application to browse a windows lan for shares
[12:34] <SportWilly> thanx TLE, pierre...
[12:34] <azza_008> GRUB loading, please wait.....
[12:34] <azza_008> Error 22
[12:34] <azza_008> please help me
[12:35] <Pierre> infidel, Menu "Places->Network Servers" as long as you have smb tools installed
[12:35] <infidel> Pierre, ok thanks
[12:36] <TLE> dalfz: I trick I used. The last time i wrote a report where I used dia the text support sucked ass big time, suddenly the fontsize would change, so what I did was to save the diagram without text, then import it in GIMP and add an transparent layer and write on that. It has the advantage, that if you want to make another version of the same diagram with the same textm then you just copy the layers to it
[12:38] <azza_008> please help im fretting here
[12:38] <vrkhans> i am trying to install ubuntu from the cd , but it took long time and notting installed
[12:38] <vrkhans> did i miss any thing ,
[12:38] <azza_008> did it just load up
[12:38] <vrkhans> i choose the first option , install ubuntu
[12:38] <dalfz> TLE, hm that sounds heavy :) scaling dia figures with regular text has worked nicely for me.
[12:39] <azza_008> did u have a unused partition
[12:39] <hastesaver> Is it possible to start local (on our college network, say) mailing lists? Does one need root access?
[12:39] <azza_008> Haste how can i disable GRUB before the pc starts up
[12:39] <AbortD> !gdesklet
[12:39] <ubotu> gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness. Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[12:40] <wolfAlfa> hello, could anyone help with the webdav on ubuntu
[12:40] <dalfz> TLE, thanks for the tip though.
[12:40] <whaley_> hastesaver: contact your uni's it staff and ask
[12:40] <azza_008> Haste how can i disable GRUB before the pc starts up
[12:40] <azza_008> i think i fucked my pc
[12:40] <AbortD> azza what os are you trying to install?
[12:41] <azza_008> linux
[12:41] <lastnode> azza_008, watch your language, please.
[12:41] <TLE> dalfz: Ok, if you can't get it to work any other way just lat me know and I'll explain it better
[12:41] <AbortD> ubuntu i take it
[12:41] <azza_008> i deleted the
[12:41] <azza_008> yeah ubuntu
[12:41] <azza_008> i deleted the 2 linux partitions and now when i boot my pc it says GRUB has error 22
[12:41] <AbortD> azza_008, just put the ubuntu cd if you dont want to keep the files on your drive just have the installation format your whole drive
[12:42] <azza_008> i already formatted it
[12:42] <azza_008> i am dualbootgin windows
[12:42] <dalfz> TLE, what format do you save your figure in, from gimp?
[12:42] <AbortD> alright well still let ubuntu do it because it will fix grub and everything
[12:42] <AbortD> let it do a full format
[12:42] <AbortD> it wont take long
[12:42] <azza_008> will it delete windows
[12:43] <AbortD> ohhh
[12:43] <AbortD> you have windows on it?
[12:43] <azza_008> yeah
[12:43] <AbortD> have fun with tha
[12:43] <AbortD> t
[12:43] <AbortD> dont know how to help you
[12:43] <azza_008> damn
[12:43] <azza_008> umm
[12:43] <azza_008> what can i try
[12:44] <AbortD> delete the whole partition and the one grub is in
[12:44] <azza_008> i cant get into anything
[12:44] <TLE> dalfz: From GIMP, when I was done with everything I saved them as .eps but that's because the way write report require them to be in that format, in general for a drawing .png would be the preferred choise
[12:44] <AbortD> maybe partition magic has a boot cd
[12:44] <azza_008> it cant boot cds i tried it
[12:44] <azza_008> it says GRUB error 22
[12:44] <AbortD> hahhaha that has to sucjk
[12:44] <AbortD> suck
[12:45] <dalfz> TLE, yes i see.   well, first thing.. i'm gonna reboot.
[12:45] <hastesaver> whaley_, my "UNI's IT staff" is just this one guy... It's hard enough to get him to install things, asking him to actively maintain something would be impossible :)
[12:45] <azza_008> can u google thje error
[12:45] <jpjacobs> azza_008, try smartbootmanager floppy http://linux.simple.be/tools/sbm
[12:45] <hastesaver> azza_008, you have a backup, right? ;)
[12:45] <AbortD> you cann try
[12:45] <azza_008> no floppy drive
[12:45] <azza_008> no lol
[12:45] <AbortD> HAHAHAHAHAHA
[12:45] <whaley_> hastesaver: ouch, how does the place run then? :)
[12:45] <azza_008> lol
[12:46] <azza_008> lol
[12:46] <azza_008> wat place
[12:46] <treedreamer> hey , I am new to Launchpad , I want to translate the XMMS  app to chinese , what can i do ?
[12:46] <jpjacobs> azza_008, but if you get a grub error, it mostprobably is trying to boot from HD, so you'll have to adjust the boot order in your BIOS
[12:46] <azza_008> all i can access is the setup when u press delete
[12:46] <azza_008> i ave
[12:46] <vrkhasn> can any one help me
[12:46] <whaley_> hastesaver: in that case, just ask him for permission to set one up and you can configure the listserv tool yourself
[12:47] <jpjacobs> !ask>vrkhsan
[12:47] <jpjacobs> !ask>vrkhasn
[12:47] <vrkhasn> i try to install ubuntu , from the cd
[12:47] <hastesaver> whaley_, yes, that's what I wanted to know. So I won't need the root password or anything to configure the listserv tool myself? And what package is that tool in?
[12:47] <TLE> treedreamer: You should check if there is a team for translating into chinese and ask them how they do it, there might have some guidelines and/or wordlitsts ans something like that
[12:47] <vrkhasn> but after a long time of running notthing installed
[12:47] <^Down> Can someone help me with this? http://pastebin.ca/183899
[12:47] <azza_008> i changed a settin try again
[12:47] <whaley|gone> hastesaver: you may need root, but if it is on one of your boxes that wouldn't be a problem
[12:47] <vrkhasn> i dont understand why
[12:47] <treedreamer> TLE , thanks
[12:48] <whaley|gone> if you are using the univ's hosting, then i don't think you'd be able to do it
[12:48] <vrkhasn> big pause of blank brownish screen
[12:48] <^Down> Is there a way to do this without removing all of these programs and libraries http://pastebin.ca/183899
[12:48] <hastesaver> whaley|gone, ok, I understand. I'll ask him and see what we can do :)
[12:48] <vrkhasn> i restarted my computer notting installed
[12:49] <webben> Can anybody recommend anything comparable to Pan Newsreader, that could be used from the command line?
[12:49] <azza_008> lol i was trying to boot off of the wrong disc llol
[12:49] <webben> (It needs to be able to post messages from my Hotmail account).
[12:49] <vrkhasn> it seems like its reading from the cd but dosnt show any thing on the window
[12:49] <azza_008> need to find real 1
[12:49] <scrp> how can i change the default player in firefox? this totem player is terrible....
[12:50] <webben> scrp: change it to what? mplayer? realplayer? vlc?
[12:50] <scrp> cant i just uninstall totem?
[12:50] <hastesaver> scrp, install the mozilla-mplayer (or was it mplayerplug-in ?) package
[12:50] <scrp> webben: yea, anything else, mplayer or vlc is fine
[12:50] <webben> scrp: IIRC just install the relevant packages
[12:51] <scrp> webben: i think i already did that
[12:51] <vrkhasn> i have windows installed can i still able to installed on the same partitation
[12:51] <scrp> i should have the vlc plugin at least
[12:51] <scrp> but still totem always opens
[12:51] <vrkhasn> or do  i have to make partitions
[12:51] <^Down> I need some help with this without removing all of these programs and libraries http://pastebin.ca/183899
[12:51] <webben> scrp: another thing to do is download a file of the type you're trying to open
[12:51] <webben> scrp: and open it from the desktop
[12:51] <azza_008> yes i got ot
[12:51] <scrp> webben: its not possible to download this i think :p
[12:51] <webben> scrp: you should get an option to set vlc as the program to open it with
[12:52] <hastesaver> scrp, the mozilla-mplayer package works fine for me.
[12:52] <webben> scrp: do you have a link?
[12:52] <scrp> webben: try this http://veftivi.visir.is/veftivi/main.do?treeId=10016&progId=23385
[12:53] <scrp> just want to uninstall this totem crap
[12:53] <scrp> it always gives me an error
[12:53] <scrp> when trying to play that feed
[12:53] <^Down> sudo apt-get remove totem
[12:53] <vrkhasn> please help me
[12:53] <vrkhasn> this is the first time i m installing linux
[12:53] <Mortice> !ask
[12:53] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:54] <hastesaver> vrkhasn, no, you can't install on the same partition; you have to make new partitions. Was that your question?
[12:54] <scrp> hastesaver: still, firefox always uses totem player :p
[12:54] <scrp> hastesaver: i installed mozilla-mplayer
[12:55] <vrkhasn> does there a way i can repartition my the partition where windows is already installed without deleting windows
[12:56] <^Down> scrp: "sudo apt-get remove totem" to completely remove it
[12:56] <hastesaver> scrp, ok, remove totem, gstreamer, and all the related nonsense :)
[12:56] <webben> vrkhasn, yes ... have you backed up all your data first?
[12:56] <hastesaver> vrkhasn, Yes. If you're using Windows 2000 or later, it comes with a Disk Management tool taht you can use
[12:56] <vrkhasn> ya on different partition on the same drive
[12:57] <vrkhasn> my windows partition is 20 gib
[12:57] <AbortD> can anyone help me with why totem will play mp3s but amarok wont but it will play wma files?
[12:57] <vrkhasn> 20 gb
[12:57] <hastesaver> AbortD, you have to do some special things to get Amarok to play mp3s... wait
[12:57] <vrkhasn> if i want to repartition that drive how much do i need for linux
[12:58] <AbortD> thanks hastesaver
[12:58] <Samuli^> AbortD, it depends on what codecs you have installed for whichever backend you're using with the players
[12:58] <rzk> vrkhasn no one knows. take at least 5
[12:58] <AbortD> amarok is great
[12:58] <AbortD> wish i could get it workin :p
[12:58] <Samuli^> AbortD, by default totem uses gstreamer and amarok uses xine, but you can change that for both.
[12:58] <chopchop_> AbortD: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MP3_on_Kubuntu_6.06
[12:59] <hastesaver> vrkhasn, 10 should be enough
[12:59] <Samuli^> or just install all of the codecs for whatever backend.
[12:59] <scrp> hastesaver: how can i see what packages are already installed on my system?
[12:59] <vrkhasn> i am dfrag right now
[12:59] <vrkhasn> after that what i need to do
[12:59] <AbortD> chopchop_,  thanks
[12:59] <hastesaver> scrp, You can start Synaptic and look for which ones are ticked :-) There is also apt-cache policy, for a specific package. You can also do apt-get remove TAB TAB :)
[01:00] <vrkhasn> rzk you mean 5gb
[01:00] <vrkhasn> of space for linux
[01:00] <Samuli^> !restrictedformats > AbortD
[01:00] <hastesaver> AbortD, yes, that's the page I was looking for. Thanks chopchop_
[01:01] <hastesaver> AbortD, can't you just ask Amarok to use a different engine? gstreamer should do, I think...
[01:01] <scrp> also i found another problem, when booting ubuntu my screen goes fubar... everything scrambles up (also all my consoles are blank, aswell as my screen goes blank when shutting down)
[01:01] <hastesaver> vrkhasn, not defrag, there is something to resize partitions and create free space
[01:01] <vrkhasn> which one is that
[01:02] <hastesaver> vrkhasn, I don't know; it's a long time since I used Windows :) It's in "Administrative tools" or some wordy thing like that
[01:04] <vrkhasn> what option i need to choose to install ubuntu
[01:04] <vrkhasn> from the cd
[01:04] <Upayavir1> new Thinkpad T60, new Dapper install, no sound. aplay -l, lspci -vv | grep Audio, lsmod | grep snd all showed hardware there and modules loaded. Reinstalling with "apt-get install --reinstall -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confmiss -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confnew linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils" and then /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart didn't make any difference. Any ideas?
[01:05] <vrkhasn> it didnt install any thing the last time i tried to installed
[01:06] <hastesaver> vrkhasn, try the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot; they might work for you, but no promises. BACKUP EVERYTHING!  Don't forget to defrag!
[01:08] <hastesaver> vrkhasn, and a backup on a different partition on the same drive is ridiculous.
[01:08] <WinterWeaver> can anyone give me a link on how to get Ubuntu to read my DVD's ??
[01:09] <azza_008> i am installing ubuntu what size should my boot and swap partitions be
[01:09] <azza_008> please help me
[01:09] <erUSUL> !dvd
[01:09] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:09] <WinterWeaver> Swap Partition is basically a "Virtual Memory" drive... so that is up to you
[01:09] <Upayavir1> azza_008: I don't tend to have a boot partition as such. With a 100Gb drive, I have a 20Gb partition
[01:10] <azza_008> whaty doesally do boot actu
[01:10] <azza_008> sorry
[01:10] <Upayavir1> for root, and swap the same (or slightly bigger) than the amount of RAM you have
[01:10] <erUSUL> azza_008: boot: ~100 MiB swap: 1 or 2 * RAM size
[01:10] <azza_008> wat does boot actually do
[01:10] <Upayavir1> and the rest as /home
[01:10] <AbortD> thanks for all the help with amarok
[01:10] <azza_008> home??? not root
[01:10] <Upayavir1> azza_008: you can have a separate boot partition, which contains Linux kernel itself.
[01:11] <Upayavir1> And then have / mounted on a different partition.
[01:11] <azza_008> is it useful
[01:11] <erUSUL> azza_008: it keeps the files esential for grub to be able to boot the system
[01:11] <Upayavir1> I don't tend to do that.
[01:11] <scrp> lol after i removed totem, now i cant watch ANY video...its always just the sound and no picture
[01:11] <azza_008> ok i will do it
[01:11] <azza_008> ok
[01:11] <Upayavir1> I just stick it all on /
[01:11] <azza_008> here is what i need
[01:11] <Upayavir1> And keep /home on a separate partition
[01:11] <azza_008> what is home
[01:11] <azza_008> is it root
[01:11] <Upayavir1> that's the equivalent of My Documents
[01:11] <AbortD> ./..
[01:11] <raj> how to priorities a process in linux
[01:12] <Upayavir1> nice?
[01:12] <azza_008> ahh ok what is wrong with it with root
[01:12] <Upayavir1> raj, nice?
[01:12] <AbortD> its the equivalent to C:\
[01:12] <azza_008> ohh ok
[01:12] <dalfz> does anyone know what keyboard layout has the "vartheta" letter? i can't see it in "greece", am i blind?
[01:12] <WinterWeaver> erUSUL, Thanks for the DVD link... btw... ain't that name an angel's name ?
[01:12] <Upayavir1> you need to re-install you OS, and all of your files are stored within the OS
[01:12] <AbortD> nm i was wrong
[01:12] <AbortD> i lie
[01:12] <Upayavir1> azza_008: that would be poo.
[01:12] <AbortD> my documents is correct i was mistaken
[01:12] <azza_008> what would
[01:12] <knob> but root home is in /root not ./..
[01:13] <raj> is it possible  to priorities a process which is already running
[01:13] <azza_008> so y not just kerep it on same partition'
[01:13] <Upayavir1> azza_008: yeah, I mean file system root, i.e. /
[01:13] <azza_008> ohh ok
[01:13] <knob> yeh root mean user root and filesystem root
[01:13] <Upayavir1> azza_008: yeah, have one 20Gb partition for /, which contains /boot (kernel, etc), /root (root user's home dir), /usr (your whole OS)
[01:13] <Upayavir1>  /etc (all of your OS config)
[01:14] <erUSUL> Upayavir1: maybe this is of some help http://michael-prokop.at/blog/2006/07/02/thinkpad-t60-laptop-with-debiangrml-linux/ or this http://vizzzion.org/?id=t60
[01:14] <ruzgar> !evolution
[01:14] <ubotu> evolution: The groupware suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 4586 kB, installed size 34184 kB
[01:14] <azza_008> ok
[01:14] <Upayavir1> and then another partition for /home, which will have your /home/<YOURUSERNAME> directory
[01:14] <Upayavir1> which will contain all of your local config.
[01:14] <Naked_Snake> Heh
[01:14] <Upayavir1> erUSUL: thx, looking
[01:14] <knob>  /usr not mean user
[01:14] <azza_008> is 44gb for root 5gb for swap and 20 mb for boot ok
[01:14] <Naked_Snake> Guys, guess what! I'm getting an Ubuntu CD and gonna say screw teh windoze! :-D
[01:15] <lastnode> azza_008, 5 for swap is a lot. id say a gig max :-)
[01:15] <Naked_Snake> AKA : yay
[01:15] <lastnode> Naked_Snake, awesome!
[01:15] <azza_008> ohh ok i had 1gb klast time and it lagged so what does swap do
[01:16] <Upayavir1> erUSUL: wierd. I just muted/unmuted using mute button above keyboard, and...
[01:16] <Naked_Snake> If I'd ever get this e-mail back from ShipIt :(
[01:16] <Upayavir1> SOUND!!!!
[01:16] <Upayavir1> azza_008: 44Gb for root is a waste.
[01:16] <azza_008> yt
[01:16] <Upayavir1> azza_008: I've never filled 20Gb. 20Mb for boot is too large too, I'd say.
[01:16] <azza_008> isnt thhere all files are stored
[01:17] <lastnode> azza_008, id say the biggest drive for /home
[01:17] <lastnode> because that's where all your files will be
[01:17] <azza_008> isnt home on root
[01:17] <knob> root home is on /root
[01:17] <scrp> azza_008: yup it is
[01:17] <lastnode> azza_008, no /root is the /home of the root user, which ubuntu doesnt have.
[01:17] <Upayavir1> azza_008: no, your home should be on /home!
[01:17] <Shish> azza_008: I have 5GB root, of which I've used 3.5 ; and the rest is /home
[01:17] <azza_008> so i need 4 partitions
[01:17] <Naked_Snake> I got a question though : will it work on my AMD 64?
[01:17] <Naked_Snake> Or will I have to use a different box
[01:17] <Red-Sox> Hi I've just installed ubuntu on my new inspiron e1505 and I'm very satisfied except for one thing, the Touch-To-Click, It's really sensitive, I think I may have found the answer in this forum post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1415526&postcount=3 but I don't know how to do that (It's at the bottom)
[01:18] <Red-Sox>   So essentialy, my question is how do I add "MaxTapTime" "0" on the line below "Driver" "synaptics"?
[01:18] <Shish> (and 512MB swap)
[01:18] <lastnode> !amd64
[01:18] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[01:18] <Naked_Snake> Coolies
[01:18] <azza_008> do i need 4 partitionsd
[01:18] <scrp> azza_008: if you install 44gb for / then that will cover /home (for the users) and /root (homedir for root)
[01:18] <receptor> hi
[01:18] <Upayavir1> azza_008: three. 20Gb /, 2Gb (or ram amount) swap, /home everything else
[01:18] <Shish> 20gb / o_O?
[01:18] <azza_008> so iis root cover ghome or not
[01:18] <azza_008> home
[01:18] <nomad111> how do i remove old kernels once new one is installed
[01:18] <lastnode> azza_008, / covers /home AND /root
[01:18] <Red-Sox> Or maybe, a better question is, what document is the line with "Driver and "Synaptics" in it?
[01:18] <azza_008> ok
[01:18] <lastnode> nomad111, synaptic
[01:19] <azza_008> thank
[01:19] <nomad111> thx
[01:19] <azza_008> ok so wat does swap dpo
[01:19] <scrp> azza_008: still if you want to make it simple just make a swap partition and / partition :p
[01:19] <knob> root cover home and root home /root
[01:20] <Shish>  /root isn't really worth worrying about :P
[01:20] <azza_008> i mean /
[01:20] <Upayavir1> azza_008: swap is your "virtual memory". If your PC doesn't have enough RAM to store all your currently running apps, it will send some of it out into your swap partition.
[01:20] <azza_008> ok
[01:20] <scrp> there is no need to setup so many partitions unless you are running a server
[01:20] <azza_008> ok
[01:20] <azza_008> too late
[01:20] <azza_008> ahwell
[01:21] <lastnode> azza_008, you can generall just set / and /swap
[01:21] <scrp> but by making a partition specially for /home can be useful, in case you need to backup your stuff
[01:21] <Docta> Hey
[01:21] <lastnode> that is enough :-)
[01:21] <lastnode> hey Docta
[01:21] <azza_008> ok an 200mb is ebough for boot
[01:21] <lastnode> whoa
[01:21] <lastnode> 200?
[01:21] <Docta> i need some help unziping things
[01:21] <scrp> azza_008: more than enough
[01:21] <lastnode> ok
[01:21] <lastnode> yeah if you have a big disk
[01:21] <lastnode> knock yourself out
[01:21] <azza_008> ok better safe than sorry
[01:21] <Docta> the file ext is rar
[01:21] <lastnode> !rar
[01:21] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[01:21] <Janchi> @ Docta: use Easy Ubuntu to make thtat happen
[01:21] <azza_008> should i get a new dd for my bday or a 500 gb h
[01:22] <gh0stwizard> Hi everybody! How I can install Seamonkey? apt-cache search seamonkey prints nothing...
[01:22] <azza_008> a new pc or 500gb hdd
[01:22] <scrp> azza_008: depends on your budget .)
[01:22] <Shish> azza_008: depends what you need
[01:22] <azza_008> this laptopis bad the mouse moves and clicks for no reason
[01:22] <azza_008> well movies
[01:23] <scrp> azza_008: however, if you are going to buy a new PC i recommend waiting 1 month or so for the new quattro CPU
[01:23] <azza_008> well i have to wait tilnywayust a
[01:23] <azza_008> august anyway
[01:23] <azza_008> the budget would be abou 1500 australian dollers
[01:23] <scrp> azza_008: that quattro cpu is going to rock.
[01:23] <azza_008> is it amd or athlon
[01:23] <scrp> intel
[01:24] <azza_008> nah i take athlon any day
[01:24] <azza_008> amd rocks
[01:24] <scrp> hah
[01:24] <hastesaver> Red-Sox, is it /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[01:24] <scrp> quattro will own athlon lol
[01:24] <azza_008> really
[01:24] <azza_008> how much will it be''
[01:24] <scrp> the duo cpu has 2 cores, im using it now and its uber
[01:24] <scrp> the quattro will have 4 cores
[01:24] <scrp> so its like 4 damn cpu's in one cpu
[01:24] <superkirbyartist> when using wmdial i get error 8 (connect script failed)
[01:25] <azza_008> how much lol
[01:25] <scrp> azza_008: not sure
[01:25] <Docta> I still can't exract it
[01:25] <azza_008> would it be 1000 us dollers
[01:25] <bony> is there a way to login remotly to a server and run x?
[01:26] <scrp> bony: yes
[01:26] <superkirbyartist> Please there are 885 people in here.  Can you help me?  I get error 8 (connect script failed) when using wmdial!
[01:26] <SpComb> I wonder how large the benefits of four cores will be...
[01:26] <SpComb> and the price
[01:26] <azza_008> sorry man i am a noob lol
[01:26] <elmargol> Hi if i do svn add, subversion includes pyc files how can I ignore them?
[01:26] <azza_008> also i spose i would need a uber mother board
[01:26] <superkirbyartist> People?
[01:26] <scrp> azza_008: well you said a new computer
[01:27] <azza_008> YEAH
[01:27] <azza_008> i know
[01:27] <Upayavir1> docta: my /boot is 212Mb, on a system that was installed March 2005, and has been through three Ubuntu upgrades (I think)
[01:27] <superkirbyartist> Go see (07:26:15)
[01:27] <bony> scrp, and all the gnome apps? if so how to do that?
[01:27] <azza_008> also what does boot do
[01:27] <superkirbyartist> PlEaSe!
[01:27] <Naked_Snake> I got another question
[01:27] <superkirbyartist> pLeAsE!
[01:27] <azza_008> u will get booted
[01:27] <Naked_Snake> How easy is Ubuntu to use if you've NEVER used any form of Linux before
[01:27] <dalfz> anybody know how i can compose a raw character from unicode?
[01:28] <scrp> bony: there are 2 ways, one is to through ssh tunnel, the other is...dont remember, i think its vnc
[01:28] <azza_008> if u be quite ur q will be abswered
[01:28] <Naked_Snake> Well, I used Knoppix but it messed up :-P
[01:28] <azza_008> very easy i can use it lol i only tried a day or two ago
[01:28] <Naked_Snake> Nice
[01:28] <bony> scrp, i think the ssh way is the secured way? but how to do that?
[01:28] <azza_008> when is th disc coming
[01:29] <scrp> Naked_Snake: Ubuntu Linux will do fine for browsing and office work, but not for games
[01:29] <Naked_Snake> Oh, well, I can always dual-boot for games
[01:29] <scrp> bony: i think vnc is better, but you can read up on google how to tunnel x through ssh :O
[01:29] <Naked_Snake> And anyway, Doom is open source :-D
[01:29] <superkirbyartist> It is?
[01:30] <superkirbyartist> Isn
[01:30] <Naked_Snake> You didn't know that the Doom source was GPL?
[01:30] <superkirbyartist> Isn't is microsoft?
[01:30] <Naked_Snake> It used to be under the Doom Educational License
[01:30] <Naked_Snake> ???
[01:30] <scrp> Naked_Snake: anyway, if your worried you "could" run Ubuntu through vmware in Windows :)
[01:30] <Naked_Snake> Heh
[01:30] <scrp> but vmware isnt free
[01:31] <Naked_Snake> I'd rather dual-boot, I'm cheap
[01:31] <scrp> (and i never support anything that costs money in Linux)
[01:31] <scrp> open source for life.
[01:31] <knob> ubuntu desktop is livecd dosnt need be installed
[01:31] <azza_008> it is slow as anything though
[01:31] <Naked_Snake> Yeah, but I want to install it ;0
[01:31] <scrp> Naked_Snake: go for it :)
[01:32] <knob> i prefer not install any os then i have all hd
[01:32] <Naked_Snake> I tried to install Red Hat once and ended up messing up my 160 gig HD (and then subsequently fixing it)
[01:32] <superkirbyartist> so where is help?
[01:32] <scrp> Naked_Snake: then use 2 hard drives
[01:33] <azza_008> no partition it
[01:33] <superkirbyartist> Why does no one help me?
[01:33] <Naked_Snake> I will use a second HD, scrp
[01:34] <Naked_Snake> And it was my second HD when I tried with RH, but it was being used for Windows stuff too
[01:34] <Naked_Snake> I partitioned it and the partition subsequently decided to screw itself
[01:34] <malice_> I downloaded a deb file opened it up with my package installer and it told me : Same Version is available in a software channel. And it would rather me do it from there. But how and where do I do this?
[01:35] <scrp> superkirbyartist: not everybody have the expertise to answer questions about wmdial
[01:35] <scrp> or the knowledge to answer your question
[01:35] <fyrestrtr> malice_: what did you download?
[01:35] <azza_008> i dont even know what it is lol
[01:35] <superkirbyartist> Well it is simple
[01:35] <superkirbyartist> !wmdial error 8
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wmdial error 8 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <superkirbyartist> !Well you suck
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Well you suck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <malice_> macchanger_1.5.0-1_i386.deb
[01:36] <Docta> are there any ubuntu rar drivers
[01:36] <azza_008> that is rough ur a loser super jus ecause we can admit we dont know something
[01:36] <elias_> what is a great wiki for documentation?
[01:37] <malice_> fyrestrtr : macchanger_1.5.0-1_i386.deb
[01:37] <scrp> Docta: if you need to unrar a file you can use unrar-free
[01:38] <malice_> Homepage: http://www.alobbs.com/macchanger
[01:38] <malice_> page I got it
[01:39] <nomad111> can any1 help me, i just setup xgl but it doesnt seem to be working my gui is very choppy
[01:39] <hantu> Is there a way to not overwrite /etc/resolv.conf when switching from wired to wireless connection? For wireless connection, I had to use vpnc of some sort, and vpnc overwrites /etc/resolv.conf
[01:40] <scrp> hantu: just backup your resolv.conf
[01:40] <hantu> scrp: and i have to do that every single time? :(
[01:40] <scrp> well if you are using dhcp i think it will overwrite it
[01:41] <scrp> you could make a script that does it for you automaticly
[01:41] <malice_> fyrestrtr : anything?
[01:41] <hantu> Hrm..
[01:41] <hantu> I'm using static at home, and school's network is using dhcp. :o
[01:41] <hantu> sux.
[01:41] <azza_008> ok
[01:41] <azza_008> how do i update GNOME
[01:42] <scrp> hantu: then you can make a script wich you run when you get home / or to school
[01:42] <malice_> I downloaded a deb file opened it up with my package installer and it told me : Same Version is available in a software channel. And it would rather me do it from there. But how and where do I do this?
[01:42] <hantu> switching between 2 files?
[01:42] <malice_> deb file is: macchanger_1.5.0-1_i386.deb
[01:42] <malice_> Homepage: http://www.alobbs.com/macchanger
[01:42] <scrp> malice_: open your terminal
[01:42] <azza_008> it still lags
[01:43] <azza_008> any1 help  me
[01:43] <malice_> do apt-get?
[01:43] <scrp> malice_: and type, sudo apt-get install macchanger
[01:43] <scrp> ya
[01:43] <Samuli^> malice_, yes.
[01:43] <malice_> ok
[01:43] <malice_> ehhe
[01:43] <malice_> dah
[01:43] <malice_> :)
[01:43] <Samuli^> malice_, before installing anything from outside repos, ALWAYS do apt-cache search :)
[01:43] <azza_008> is there a system config somewhere
[01:43] <malice_> ok thank you for the tip
[01:44] <scrp> azza_008: ubuntu will check for updates for you
[01:44] <azza_008> ok
[01:45] <scrp> azza_008: you can also go to System > Administration > update manager
[01:45] <azza_008> how can i stop lag
[01:45] <scrp> azza_008: i dont know what's lagging :)
[01:45] <azza_008> when i open a browser the mouse slows alot and also i deleted top panel how do i get it back
[01:46] <CromagDK> i forgot: is it possible to mount NTFS part.s via liveCD ?
[01:46] <jrib> CromagDK: yes
[01:46] <CromagDK> thnkx
[01:46] <jrib> ubotu: tell CromagDK about ntfs
[01:47] <Samuli^> azza_008, your mouse slows? Or do you mean it's blinking?
[01:47] <azza_008> it jumps around
[01:49] <anilomkar> abhinay, hi
[01:50] <pricechild_> hey all, could someone please help with my tv tuner?
[01:50] <chibiace> Linuxant must die!
[01:50] <pricechild_> it used to work yesterday... but i reinstalled linux fresh
[01:50] <azza_008> also when i scroll it hangs for about a sec
[01:51] <pricechild_> and now tvtime can access /dev/video0 if run as root
[01:51] <pricechild_> if i change permissions on /dev/video0 to "read and write" for others... then tvtime says it can capture from it, but recieves no signal
[01:51] <azza_008> any ideas
[01:52] <sos> skdkl
[01:53] <nomad111> hey all how can i find out wat gfx driver im using
[01:53] <azza_008> the CPU usage spikes when i open a program
[01:53] <chibiace> nomad111, sudo lspci will probably tell you
[01:54] <azza_008> any way to reduce it a bit
[01:54] <reisi> hi everyone! how do i check from www for example, which version is the *ubuntu nvidia driver...?
[01:56] <Samuli^> azza_008, there's pre-linking which could help.
[01:56] <azza_008> what is that lol
[01:56] <Samuli^> !pre-linking
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pre-linking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <Samuli^> blah.
[01:56] <chibiace> where can i go to hate linuxant for making drivers that you have to pay for to get full speed out of a 56k modem, man.
[01:57] <azza_008> i meant how can i do it
[01:57] <Samuli^> azza_008, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=74197&highlight=pre-linking
[01:57] <nomad111> far out i am having trouble installing aiglx
[01:57] <dalfz> how come newly installed applications aren't showing in the applications-menu (or any submenu thereof) ?
[01:57] <chibiace> prelinking probably wont give you any noticable gain.
[01:57] <nomad111> cant find certain packages
[01:57] <jrib> dalfz: which application?
[01:57] <bionoid> dalfz: Some do, some don't. use the menu editor to add them manually.
[01:58] <bionoid> chibiace: LOL what?! You're kidding, right?
[01:58] <dalfz> jrib, for example, configuration editor under system tools,
[01:58] <bionoid> chibiace: What rate does a reduced-speed 56k modem get? 2400 baud?
[01:58] <azza_008> any other way
[01:59] <frogzoo> dalfz: you need to relogin
[01:59] <Samuli^> azza_008, swithing to a faster desktop-enviroment or using lighter programs.
[01:59] <chibiace> linuxant wants you to pay for the driver of the conexant modems or you will be limited to 14k
[01:59] <Samuli^> and/or
[01:59] <dalfz> frogzoo, ok trying that
[02:00] <azza_008> what is a good light web breowser
[02:00] <_Arrick> bionoid, no way 2400? not on your life
[02:00] <eracc> azza_008, links
[02:00] <chibiace> "Without the license, the drivers are limited to a maximum speed of 14.4Kbps." from the ubuntu wiki
[02:00] <azza_008> what
[02:01] <jrib> azza_008: try dillo
[02:01] <azza_008> ok
[02:01] <bionoid> chibiace: jesus. get a $5 modem? :P
[02:01] <chibiace> its in my laptop. it doesnt seem to be fully supported anyway.
[02:02] <THX-1138> still using a computer from Packard Bell?
[02:02] <chibiace> its part of my sound card :S
[02:02] <eracc> chibiace, Zoom makes a good PCMCIA modem.
[02:02] <lucasvo> hi
[02:02] <lucasvo> is there any way to install ubuntu using an usb flashdisk?
[02:03] <THX-1138> Yes - there is a page in the forum. - anyone have the link?
[02:03] <eracc> lucasvo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB
[02:03] <THX-1138> !thumbdrive
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thumbdrive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:04] <THX-1138> !flashdrive
[02:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashdrive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:04] <unfknblvbl> !usb
[02:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:04] <chibiace> eep, the cheapest pcmcia modem i can get my hands on is NZ$80
[02:04] <lucasvo> eracc: isn't there a ready made usb image for netinstall?
[02:04] <dalfz> frogzoo, relogin didn't help :/
[02:04] <THX-1138> !ubotu is Amnesiac
[02:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is Amnesiac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:04] <eracc> lucasvo, ah, I misunderstood your question. I don't know.
[02:07] <chibiace> drivers shouldnt cost money :( it seems so wrong
[02:07] <eracc> lucasvo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[02:08] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> people i need some help regardin Anjuta
[02:08] <tucoz> Hi, i want to change the bootsplash to ubuntu instead of kubuntu. Anyone know how to do this?
[02:08] <tucoz> I found some info from breezy, but thought there might be a new way to do this in dapper
[02:08] <THX-1138> chibiaca - no doubt. - worse the older the part the less likely the commercial   will be patched.
[02:09] <THX-1138> driver
[02:09] <IceTox> Hey! I'm having problems with mounting my disks to write and read permissions. Anyone has a good way to mount those windows disks to my ubuntu install?
[02:09] <lucasvo> eracc: thanks!
[02:09] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> !DiskMount
[02:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about DiskMount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:09] <THX-1138> !seveas
[02:09] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> !DiskMounter
[02:09] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:09] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[02:09] <frogzoo> IceTox: fat or ntfs ?
[02:09] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> IceTox: see this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[02:09] <Samuli^> IceTox, you can't write to ntfs for one.
[02:10] <azza_008> does my ubuntu lagbecause i have 5gb swap
[02:10] <THX-1138> both and mac
[02:10] <IceTox> thanks it's ntfs frogzoo
[02:10] <frogzoo> !ntfs
[02:10] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[02:10] <jrib> tucoz: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so   followed by  sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[02:10] <Samuli^> azza_008, maybe your computer just isn't up to it?
[02:10] <tucoz> jrib, cheers
[02:10] <manmadha> Any body from india?
[02:10] <azza_008> wat 5gb swap
[02:11] <IceTox> Samuli^: I know I did it once before, after a tip from one in here.. However, my disk with all the logs and writings on the subject blasted.
[02:11] <manmadha> any body know telugu language?
[02:11] <THX-1138> lol your english is nuch better than my Bengali. Welcome to #ubuntu
[02:11] <chibiace> azza_008 how much ram do you got
[02:12] <THX-1138> Wow. telugu? hm..
[02:12] <manmadha> THX-1138, ya i have a prob
[02:12] <azza_008> 512
[02:13] <galaxi> fraicheur
[02:13] <chibiace> how fast is your cpu
[02:13] <manmadha> THX-1138, My browser is not supporting telugu font.....how to add it?I can,t find it in the language list.......
[02:13] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> people. please help regarding anjuta
[02:13] <fabrizio99> ciao
[02:14] <eracc> Man, is us.archive.ubuntu.com always slow? :-(
[02:14] <chibiace> its probably the most busy server?
[02:14] <eracc> I will be switching that then. :-)
[02:14] <azza_008> is 512 enough
[02:15] <chibiace> azza_008, yes but how fast is your cpu
[02:15] <azza_008> 2.93
[02:15] <manmadha>  My browser is not supporting telugu font.....how to add it?I can,t find it in the language list.......
[02:15] <THX-1138> /usr/share/fonts   ?? simply add them ??
[02:15] <eracc> azza_008, 512MB RAM is "enough" depending on what you do.
[02:15] <THX-1138> !fonts
[02:15] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[02:15] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[02:15] <brekker> hi do anyone noxs the min spec for ubuntu
[02:15] <azza_008> so is the 5gb swap slowing it down
[02:15] <tucoz> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, there is a gnome irc server where you can get help with anjuta
[02:15] <THX-1138> Did that help?
[02:15] <eracc> azza_008, 512MB is fine for typical home usage.
[02:16] <chibiace> azza_008, why do you have 5gb swap
[02:16] <manmadha> THX-1138, ya seeing
[02:16] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> tucoz: you know the address?
[02:16] <IceTox> frogzoo: how do I find out where my win disk is located? (hda1, hdd1 etc..)
[02:16] <azza_008> but is it the swap making it lag
[02:16] <eracc> 5GB of swap is ... excessive.
[02:16] <mypapit> THX-1138:= havent seen the movie for quite some time
[02:16] <tucoz> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, irc.gnome.org
[02:16] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> thanks
[02:16] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> IceTox: sudo fdisk -l
[02:16] <IceTox> tanks a lot PunjabiFLOYDIAN :)
[02:16] <tucoz> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, I think there is a anjuta channel there as well. Otherwise you can try some gnome-dev channel
[02:16] <chibiace> azza_008, it only uses swap if your memory is full. you can check from the system monitor program thingie
[02:17] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> tucoz: is anjuta the standard IDE for Linux?
[02:17] <frogzoo> IceTox: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda  should offer clues
[02:17] <IceTox> indeed frogzoo :)
[02:17] <IceTox> thanks
[02:17] <azza_008> ok
[02:17] <THX-1138> myapit. - a really good movie AND a close count of the times i have asked for help learning linux and got it here. Thanks THX 1138 times. - grin
[02:17] <eracc> azza_008, I have 512MB RAM and 256MB swap. I /want/ stuff cleared from RAM instead of swapping to disk.
[02:17] <tucoz> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, not sure. I don't think there is a standard IDE. But it is fairly integrated for gnome development though
[02:18] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> tucoz: thanks buddy
[02:18] <brekker> minimum cpu pleace
[02:18] <eracc> I have yet to run out of RAM except for a runaway app that had a memory leak.
[02:18] <chibiace> firefox?
[02:18] <chibiace> :P
[02:18] <eracc> No, older version of the crossfire client.
[02:19] <eracc> Meaning the GTKv1 client a few years back.
[02:19] <THX-1138> PunjabiFLOYDIAN - Do you speak Telugu?
[02:19] <Po0dle> kk
[02:19] <Po0dle> so
[02:19] <tucoz> THX-1138, he left
[02:19] <chibiace> i open alot of photos from my digital camera, when i had 256mb i could open 2 then my computer would be slow as
[02:19] <Po0dle> Ubuntu killed my pc
[02:19] <gyro54> Any ideas on how to make a Audigy2 platinum remote work?
[02:20] <eracc> At the time I had 512MB RAM and 1GB swap. The leaking client filled it ALL and brought the system to its' knees.
[02:20] <THX-1138> Po0dle - What happened prior to it dying?
[02:21] <brekker> do anyone nows the min hardware rec
[02:21] <Po0dle> Loading GRUB, Please wait...
[02:21] <Po0dle> Error 17
[02:21] <Po0dle> tried all the solutions available on the interweb
[02:21] <Po0dle> all faield
[02:22] <brekker> do anyone nows the min hardware rec???????????????????????????????
[02:22] <chibiace> brekker,  you could go quite low, my 800mhz duron finds gnome abit much though. 1.2ghz is probably the minimum speed for a nice ride
[02:22] <THX-1138> Ah - medium difficulty fix for a new user. - Check out ubotu's link and you will be up and running in no time.
[02:22] <THX-1138> !grub
[02:22] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:22] <THX-1138> Did that help?
[02:23] <eracc> chibiace, I am running xubuntu on an old Dell with 384MB RAM and a PIII 450MHz. Works fine with the lighter window manager.
[02:23] <IceTox> thanks frogzoo. The manual you gave me worked very good :)
[02:23] <Po0dle> i dunno
[02:23] <chibiace> eracc, yes, but gnome doesnt. xfce is quite neat really
[02:23] <eracc> Actually I prefer fluxbox. Installing the stuff *I* like now. :-)
[02:24] <malice_> I have a wireless PCI card and in order for me to get connected to the internet I have to insert it just at the righ ttime for the system to see it. If I insert it to early it will freeze if I install it to late it will not see it at all. My question is, is there a way to mount this in terminal I have tried sudo ifconfig wlan0 up and then down when I am finished but sometimes it does not work or it freezes. Just wondering if there is a
[02:24] <chibiace> fluxbox is my favorite light wm, though i would never use it if gnome worked
[02:24] <brekker> i use a athlon 1.1  with 512 ram and it works faster as any win
[02:24] <Po0dle> so THX
[02:24] <eracc> I'm switching all my SOHO biz systems (except for the FreeBSD server) to *buntu from Mandriva. Just started yesterday. :-)
[02:24] <THX-1138> eracc - Did i see a fluxbox version  of Uuntu on the web?
[02:24] <Po0dle> what do i need to look for on these sites
[02:25] <eracc> THX-1138, no idea. I just installed xubuntu and then used synaptic to get fluxbox.
[02:25] <jllitvay> Does anyone has installed ubuntu on G3 Powermac??
[02:25] <bruno__> hello , I am french ubuntu user, I am on 6.10
[02:25] <THX-1138> http://fluxbuntu.org/
[02:25] <IceTox> Now, does anyone know how this metacity thingie works? :) I've got some cute themes which I wanna set in my ubuntu install.
[02:25] <eracc> THX-1138, oh, that is cool! :-)
[02:25] <THX-1138> uofficial but it's there.
[02:26] <eracc> Well, I'll stuck with official and just pop on flux. :-)
[02:26] <eracc> *stick
[02:26] <chibiace> IceTox, you want to install themes?
[02:27] <brekker> i just wonna ust my very old duron 450 as 2end pc
[02:27] <IceTox> chibiace: indeed.. I'd like to have my gnome desktop look a little more comfertable :)
[02:27] <chibiace> IceTox, you can drag them into the theme manager thing in system > preferences > theme
[02:27] <chibiace> IceTox, or unpack it to .themes
[02:27] <eracc> Only thing I don't like so far is this freaking slow us repository. I need to find a repository list so I can change this ...
[02:27] <IceTox> ah.. lemme try that right a way chibiace :)
[02:27] <snarf> is there a java package for unbuntu?
[02:28] <rzk> !java
[02:28] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[02:28] <snarf> thanks
[02:28] <gyro54> Any ideas on how to make a Audigy2 platinum remote work?
[02:29] <chibiace> brekker, try ubuntu with xfce, gnome might be too slow. the slowest specs i've run gnome on are 350mhz and 256mb and it is usable but not as fun
[02:29] <Po0dle> i dont understand this step
[02:29] <Po0dle> When the Ubuntu splash screen comes up with the boot: prompt, type in rescue and press enter.
[02:29] <IceTox> chibiace: "Windows Border Theme ATER-Blue correctly installed. You can select it in the theme details." <-- This message comes, but still, I cannot find the crappy metacity theme in my theme manager :)
[02:29] <kanpachi> hello, when using mplayer  works fine, except when i load videos that have mp3 audio track, i get an error saying "Requested audio codec family [mp3]  (afm=mp3lib) not avaiable. Enable it at compliation". the video plays just fine and so does the sound, what do i do?
[02:30] <brekker> ok thanks
[02:30] <chibiace> IceTox, theme details, you can select each part of the theme
[02:30] <eracc> xubuntu should work "out of the box" on slower systems.
[02:30] <IceTox> oh.. *blushes* Thanks chibiace :)
[02:31] <chibiace> :P
[02:31] <THX-1138> Google "Linux Swappiness" some nifty tips on swapfiles and ram usage. bumped into a site some months ago. (yep nerdy but it does make a noticeable difference at least to me.)
[02:32] <eracc> Just to familiarize myself ... the CLI way to install software on *buntu is with apt-get?
[02:32] <chibiace> apt-get install appname
[02:32] <eracc> Ok, thanks.
[02:33] <eracc> I prefer installing apps from the CLI.
[02:33] <chibiace> me too
[02:33] <chibiace> i make linux look hard to people who watch me
[02:33] <THX-1138> chibiaca - Soon you will have him bash scripting and giving up windows entirely. Where will it end? - lol
[02:33] <chibiace> bash scripting is fun
[02:33] <jrib> ubotu: tell eracc about apt
[02:34] <brekker> can i install flash 5 on ubuntu??
[02:34] <THX-1138> It is Really nice to something only once and script it for the other nine thousand nine hundred and ninety-nine times.
[02:34] <jrib> brekker: do you really want flash 5?  flash 7 is the most recent version for linux
[02:35] <brekker> ok thanks
[02:35] <jrib> ubotu: tell brekker about flash
[02:35] <eracc> jrib, thanks.
[02:35] <jrib> eracc: np
[02:35] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> people. what is the standard gcc command to compile a C file
[02:36] <jrib> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: gcc -o file file.c
[02:36] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> jrib: thanks
[02:36] <jrib> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: -o lets you specify the name of the output file
[02:36] <jllitvay> Does anyone has installed ubuntu on G3 Powermac??
[02:36] <jllitvay> noone??
[02:36] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> so if the output file has to be X then i should write gcc -o X file.c?
[02:36] <chibiace> can i install ubuntu on my nintendo wii
[02:37] <jrib> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: right
[02:37] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> thanks
[02:37] <Dekkard> anyone maybe give me a clue on how to reinstall the default cursor font from a terminal.. x is (sniff) gone
[02:38] <Dekkard> after using linux for 6 years i had to learn vim last night
[02:38] <eracc> LOL
[02:38] <Dekkard> haha
[02:38] <Dekkard>  ok.. im lame
[02:38] <Dekkard> we..
[02:38] <cbx333> hey guys, I'm having trouble with an external monitor on dapper on a toshiba laptop
[02:38] <Dekkard>  kinda like.. I didnt need to
[02:38] <cbx333> any ideas howtos tutorials ?
[02:38] <THX-1138> nah vim is erm "unconventional"?? - lol
[02:39] <eracc> Dude, I started with ed. vi was a great thing. ;-)
[02:39] <Dekkard> but vimtutor is a great thing to get you going
[02:39] <eracc> Yup
[02:39] <eracc> One basically need know only a handful of vim commands to use the thing.
[02:40] <Dekkard> so now if i can just figure out how to get arwiz cursor gone and reinstall the default I should get X back
[02:40] <megasquid> is fglrx driver differnt from the radeon driver?
[02:40] <Dekkard> i think thats what is killing the "cant find device serial wacom"
[02:41] <tyzef> salut je recherche benje
[02:41] <jrib> !fr
[02:41] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:41] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> which is the best IDE for Ubuntu, except Anjuta. Can i use Emacs?
[02:41] <Raul654> Simple question - I need an alarm clock for gnome
[02:41] <tucoz> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, of course.
[02:41] <Raul654> can anyone recommend one?
[02:41] <tucoz> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, I use emacs all the time
[02:41] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> tucoz: is it good for C programming?
[02:41] <eracc> Emacs - a great OS that needs a good text editor. :-p
[02:41] <tucoz> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, but i wouldn't call it an IDE
[02:41] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> oh. its good for C Programming?
[02:41] <Dekkard> eracc:  that was funny
[02:42] <tucoz> Yes, it's excellent for C programming
[02:42] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok thanks :D
[02:42] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> by the way, was wondering: in which language was Emacs programmed?
[02:42] <tucoz> C
[02:42] <Dekkard> look up the article "living in emacs"
[02:42] <eracc> Dekkard, it was not original. I saw that on a pro-vim site. :-)
[02:42] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> oh. and C was programmed in ?
[02:42] <Raul654> Can anyone suggest an alarm clock applet for gnome?
[02:42] <megasquid> is "fglrx" driver differnt from the "radeon" driver?
[02:43] <chibiace> isnt the radeon the opensource one
[02:43] <Dekkard> only problem with emacs is learning the 17,983 keyboard commands
[02:43] <stu_> trying to get my ibm thinkpad buttons to work, it says insmod nvram - but I dont have the module - how do I get it ?
[02:43] <gyro54> quit
[02:43] <kendals> I can't get guifications to install on gaim2.0beta3
[02:43] <kendals> It tells me "ABI version mismatch">?
[02:43] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> kendals: why not use Synaptics? it takes care of package dependencies
[02:44] <kendals> i've tried, punjab- same problem :(
[02:44] <kendals> i go to plugins.
[02:44] <kendals> and guifications is faded out.
[02:44] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> kendals: u need to compile from source. get the source.
[02:44] <kendals> and the reason is as above "abi version mismatch:"
[02:44] <kendals> i tried compiling from the source...
[02:44] <kendals> and i tells me it can't find 'gaim' package.
[02:44] <deselby9> hi
[02:44] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> then u probably aint doing it right
[02:44] <kendals> ...?
[02:44] <eracc> Dekkard, http://thomer.com/vi/vi.html (a vi site actually)
[02:44] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> !gaim
[02:44] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[02:44] <deselby9> I have some problems with soundcard
[02:44] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> check this out
[02:44] <azza_008> is it possible that having too much swap slows u down
[02:45] <mon^rch> hey, does anyone know if ubuntu will ever have mp3 support out of the box?
[02:45] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> azza_008: maybe. recommened is 2 and half times the amount of physical RAM. anything more than that is waste
[02:45] <mjr> mon^rch, probably will, but not before the mp3 patents have expired
[02:45] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> mon^rch: use XMMS.w hyworry bout patents?
[02:45] <mon^rch> :-(
[02:46] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompileGaim
[02:46] <deselby9> how can I reset sound device ?
[02:46] <mon^rch> and that friggin libxineextracodecs wont install properly
[02:46] <azza_008> i was reccomended to have it as 512 from a develeloper my ram is 512
[02:46] <kendals> thanks punjab- will give that a go.
[02:46] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> azza_008: then its ok. too much swap is wate.
[02:46] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> kendals: yup try it!
[02:46] <kendals> :)
[02:46] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> :D
[02:47] <kendals> report back in a few minutes heh
[02:47] <Ackeubu_> hey how do i se which ports my apps are using?
[02:47] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> lol ok
[02:47] <chimai> 'lo
[02:47] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> see ya guys. happy hacking.
[02:47] <eracc> Actually there are some Linux gurus that will say swap should decrease in size as RAM increases in size. The rule of thumb I have seen over and over is under 512MB make swap 2x RAM. At 512MB make swap 512MB or 256MB (depending on the guru). At 768MB and up swap may or may not be needed at all.
[02:48] <k-man_> hello
[02:48] <ubanazi> hi
[02:48] <SeanTater> k-man_:  , Ciao, Hola, Hallo, Hello, and Yo!
[02:48] <stu_> trying to get my ibm thinkpad buttons to work, it says insmod nvram - but I dont have the module - how do I get it ?
[02:48] <Raul654> what package is gnome-config in?
[02:49] <ubanazi> the desktop iso video doesnt work
[02:49] <megasquid> anyone know where i can get the 'radeon' drivers?
[02:49] <SeanTater> ubanazi: I've heard that a couple times recently
[02:49] <k-man_> why does only one use show up in the list of users that can auto log in? (and not the user I want?)
[02:49] <ubanazi> ubanazi: il say it ten times
[02:49] <k-man_> s/use/user
[02:50] <ubanazi> cant install it
[02:50] <SeanTater> ubanazi: install what?
[02:50] <ubanazi> cant install ubuntu without the desktop
[02:50] <ubanazi> i mean without the video
[02:50] <SeanTater> ubanazi: ah! you mean X's Video, I thought you mean the one in the examples folder --
[02:50] <Raul654> Can anyone suggest an alarm clock applet for gnome?
[02:50] <ukjadoon> i cannot seem to resize my partitions using gparted can anyone help?
[02:51] <ubanazi> the drivers for ubuntu must be obssolete obsolete video drivers
[02:51] <SeanTater> ubanazi: you can try the alternate CD
[02:51] <ubanazi> oh! the alternate cd you say? you mean the one that works?
[02:51] <chibiace> lol
[02:51] <SeanTater> ubanazi: it does not need video drivers, but in all likelyness it will install a desktop without video
[02:51] <pedaboy> hi... can anyone help me with this: Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
[02:51] <sc0tty_> hi
[02:52] <SeanTater> ubanazi:  / likeliness/
[02:52] <ukjadoon> i cannot resize my ntfs partitions in gparted can anyone help please?
[02:52] <SeanTater> sc0tty_: :  , Ciao, Hola, Hallo, Hello, and Yo!
[02:52] <sc0tty_> :)
[02:52] <eracc> ubanazi, I installed xubuntu desktop yesterday and the "install desktop" worked fine for me.
[02:52] <ubanazi> is that right? an iso that will actually installed called alternate. well i never woulda thought
[02:52] <SeanTater> sc0tty_: isn't google translate fun?
[02:52] <sc0tty_> yes it is
[02:53] <ubanazi> maybe i should be more alternative and stop looking for obvious things
[02:53] <zgb027> lol
[02:53] <sc0tty_> google is slowly but surely overtaking the world, starting with us
[02:53] <zgb027> alles im lot?
[02:53] <megasquid> anyone know where i can get the 'radeon' drivers?
[02:53] <darkanyel> hi!
[02:53] <eracc> ubanazi, what video chipset is on your card?
[02:53] <ukjadoon> u can get ati drivers from
[02:53] <SeanTater> sc0tty_: I wish they had a google ISP
[02:53] <ubanazi> eracc: nvidia
[02:53] <ukjadoon> www.ati.com
[02:54] <darkanyel> how can i see a preview of my videos in nautilus???
[02:54] <sc0tty_> SeanTater: they'll get there one day
[02:54] <ukjadoon> they do distribute linux drivers there
[02:54] <SeanTater> sc0tty_: so I heard
[02:54] <eracc> There are quite a few nVidia chipsets ...
[02:54] <ukjadoon> but they r kinda heavy
[02:54] <sc0tty_> I wish they had a google cellphone company
[02:54] <ukjadoon> around 80 megs
[02:54] <sc0tty_> with googletalk on your cell :)
[02:54] <ubanazi> this old faithful nvidia
[02:54] <SeanTater> sc0tty_: I think the entire universe should have a serach button
[02:54] <ukjadoon> i am satisfied with my nvidia though and i am pretty much an nvidiot :D
[02:54] <ukjadoon> i got my 7600 working on ubuntu in no time
[02:54] <sc0tty_> my desk could use one
[02:55] <ukjadoon> and working in blender is a pure joy
[02:55] <ubanazi> ukjadoon: 7600gs?
[02:55] <chibiace> SeanTater, its called google
[02:55] <ukjadoon> yeah 7600GS
[02:55] <sc0tty_> I just got a new keyboard
[02:55] <ubanazi> ukjadoon: i have 2
[02:55] <ukjadoon> i have an XFX 7600 XXX edition
[02:55] <sc0tty_> and I have fancy play pause next previous keys
[02:55] <ukjadoon> ohhhh awesome
[02:55] <ukjadoon> =D
[02:55] <ukjadoon> \m/\m/
[02:55] <sc0tty_> I'm trying to set them but it doesn't work :@
[02:55] <ubanazi> and theyre both in there
[02:55] <ukjadoon> niice so u r using an sli?:S
[02:55] <tucoz> megasquid, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:55] <darkanyel> how can i see a preview of my videos in nautilus??? plz O_O
[02:55] <sc0tty_> I can set them in the gnome utility, but no reaction from rhythmbox ...
[02:55] <ubanazi> ukjadoon: ya
[02:56] <ukjadoon> wow
[02:56] <chibiace> darkanyel, is that even possible?
[02:56] <ukjadoon> my motherboard only has a single slot
[02:56] <sc0tty_> darkanyel: preview or thumbnail ?
[02:56] <SeanTater> sc0tty_: okay place I;ve seen them work is in linspire
[02:56] <eracc> ubanazi, the system I installed xubuntu on yesterday has a video card with Riva TNT2 chipset. I did nothing special.
[02:56] <ukjadoon> sooo i couldnt get an sli configuration
[02:56] <megasquid> tucoz: i'm looking for the open source driver
[02:56] <ukjadoon> hey can anyone help me with gparted?
[02:56] <ukjadoon> i cannot seem to resize my ntfs partitions
[02:56] <darkanyel> thumbnail!!!
[02:56] <tucoz> megasquid, isn't that available from apt-get?
[02:56] <sc0tty_> well the keys are recognized, xev shows it ... I guess it gets lost in the way
[02:56] <azza_008> y does it fucking lag please helpo me
[02:56] <ukjadoon> i want to add more space to my ubuntu partition
[02:56] <ubanazi> eracc: well dont tell ubuntu this 80 years later
[02:57] <sc0tty_> darkanyel: totem-thumbnail-something iirc
[02:57] <megasquid> tucoz: possibly, do you know what the package is by any chance?
[02:58] <ukjadoon> is there a way i could log into ubuntu as root?
[02:58] <ukjadoon> :S
[02:58] <tucoz> megasquid, xserver-xorg-driver-ati
[02:58] <Tyk0s> if i install ubuntu desktop.. does it find my other disks? (e: f: etc.) ?
[02:58] <lastnode> Tyk0s, it should find them during install. if not you can add them later in fstab
[02:58] <ukjadoon> because i think i cannot resize it cause i am not logged in as root:S
[02:58] <ukjadoon> or something
[02:58] <Tyk0s> oh okay..
[02:59] <azza_008> y does it fucking lag please helpo me
[02:59] <megasquid> tucoz: thanks
[02:59] <darkanyel> sc0tty,sorry, i dont undestad :S
[02:59] <lastnode> azza_008, language. you've already been warned once.
[02:59] <eracc> ukjadoon, sudo passwd root
[02:59] <lastnode> azza_008, we want to help you, but we cant if you keep speaking in that manner. this is a family friendly channel
[02:59] <sc0tty_> search for totem thumbnail in synaptic
[02:59] <ukjadoon> sigh
[03:00] <lastnode> eracc, we generally dont advocate telling users how to enable root on their boxen, just so you know.
[03:00] <sc0tty_> 8 channels is getting a lot ... I need to get a life ..
[03:00] <azza_008> ohh ok sorry
[03:00] <eracc> ukjadoon, that will allow you to set a password for root and enable root login.
[03:00] <eracc> lastnode, ok.
[03:00] <lastnode> eracc, the rationale being that if a user really wanted a root account, he'd know how.
[03:01] <eracc> lastnode, it is the first thing I looke dup. :-)
[03:01] <lastnode> eracc, because then we dont have to deal with "oh no i accidentally rm -rf /usr
[03:01] <lastnode> eracc, me too, but we don't advocate it here in #ubuntu generally
[03:01] <lastnode> just fyi
[03:01] <eracc> lastnode, I get it. Next time I'll just say "use sudo, dude". ;-)
[03:01] <azza_008> any ideas
[03:01] <stu_> anyone know of a webpage showing linux desktops, themes, visual enhancements etc?
[03:02] <LjL> stu_: perhaps gnome-look.org (or kde-look.org)
[03:02] <eracc> azza_008, define lag.
[03:02] <azza_008> well when i open up a program the mouse jumps
[03:03] <eracc> Wow, my mouse just stays on my desk. ;-)
[03:03] <azza_008> i mean th cursir
[03:03] <azza_008> curcor
[03:03] <azza_008> cursor
[03:03] <eracc> azza_008, I know.
[03:03] <darkanyel> sc0tty,what mean this?  "Video thumbnailer (Requires nautilus from the GNOME 2.2 release)"
[03:03] <LjL> azza_008: don't really have a clue, but... is that only when you open up a program, or more generically when the hard drive is being used?
[03:04] <sc0tty_> darkanyel: yes I guess
[03:04] <azza_008> when i poen a program and scroll down it hangs for about a second
[03:04] <sc0tty_> if you're running a gnome >2.2 you're fine, and I'd say you are
[03:04] <sexcopter8000m> hi, i want to access shared stuff on a windows machine. i have 3 xp pro machines connected to the router (plus this ubuntu laptop). i can access one of the xp machines, but not the other two. any starting points how to fix this?
[03:04] <sc0tty_> sexcopter8000m: can you access these machines from the xp box ?
[03:04] <darkanyel> so, a have to upgrade my gnome??? :S
[03:05] <LjL> azza_008: hm, what about if you have an iconified window, and open it up?
[03:05] <azza_008> wat
[03:05] <chibiace> ubuntu needs nfs discovery
[03:05] <sc0tty_> no, darkanyel if you have the latest ubuntu you have 2.14
[03:05] <sc0tty_> so you're fine
[03:05] <SGL> Question: Nothing happens when I do either "sudo updatedb" or "sudo apt-get install blaaaaa". Does anyone know what is wrong? (Using XUBUNTU)
[03:05] <sexcopter8000m> sc0tty_, no, that's why i thought i'd try from ubuntu. what i really want to do is shit files from one pc to a laptop, which happen to be the two uncooperative xp machines
[03:05] <LjL> azza_008: if you minimize/iconify a window... i.e. press the button that makes the window go away into the window list... and then bring it back from the window list
[03:05] <fourat> i did a fresh install of cupsys and i dont get the /etc/cups/client.conf file, what's wrong ?
[03:05] <eracc> azza_008, that sounds like a video redraw thing. Very likely related to your video card + driver.
[03:05] <azza_008> ill check
[03:05] <darkanyel> but, so why i cant see the thumbnail
[03:06] <azza_008> well is there a sis liinux driver
[03:06] <sc0tty_> sexcopter8000m: I'd say it's a windows side problem then
[03:06] <azza_008> yeah it does a bit
[03:06] <fourat> where's the  /etc/cups/client.conf in dapper ?
[03:06] <eracc> azza_008, your video chipset is SiS?
[03:06] <sc0tty_> because you need to install totem-thumbnail so he can create the thumbnails :)
[03:06] <sexcopter8000m> sc0tty_, think i agree... i've torn my hair out in front of them, not sure what it could be ><
[03:06] <sc0tty_> well I don't have windows around
[03:07] <omar> hello, there are some web pages in flash that I cannot see. However others open easyly, what can I do
[03:07] <azza_008> yeah SiS
[03:07] <omar> I have firefox
[03:07] <SGL> Question: Nothing happens when I do either "sudo updatedb" or "sudo apt-get install blaaaaa". Does anyone know what is wrong? (Using XUBUNTU)
[03:07] <sc0tty_> but I'd say try to do the same config that you have on the XP box that works
[03:07] <eracc> azza_008, hmmm, is this embedded video on the motherboard?
[03:07] <gnomefreak> omar: wait for flash 9
[03:07] <azza_008> yeah
[03:07] <gnomefreak> omar: the pages you cant view are most likely built in flash 8
[03:07] <sc0tty_> sexcopter8000m: from my memories of XP, you have 2 modes to share
[03:07] <omar> gnomefreak: wait? what do you mean
[03:08] <sc0tty_> active easy share or whatever it's called
[03:08] <gnomefreak> omar: there will not be a linux build for flash 8
[03:08] <eracc> azza_008, yikes. Er, I try to avoid those because they are usually cheap and slow. You may just have to live with that until you can swap hardware.
[03:08] <firenx> can someone tell me if http://154.5.113.182/ works
[03:08] <azza_008> damn
[03:08] <sexcopter8000m> sc0tty_, easy file sharing, yeah i've investigated that
[03:08] <omar> gnomefreak: but I used to use those pages with linux
[03:08] <sexcopter8000m> sc0tty_, apparently mixing home and pro can cause trouble, but they're all pro
[03:08] <LjL> firenx: not here
[03:08] <firenx> hm ok
[03:08] <azza_008> i have no money
[03:08] <chibiace> sexcopter8000m, ive had very varied results with samba, mostly i cant access anything on the network cept the windows box, using 1 computer as a ftp server was much more efficient sadly, lately i played with nfs and it was nice but was very manual and i dont know how it would be setup on windows
[03:08] <sexcopter8000m> i just wish windows had the support ubuntu has!
[03:09] <azza_008> will fedora run bette
[03:09] <firenx> LjL: forbidden?
[03:09] <gnomefreak> omar: it could be the page isnt working (you havent given me a page that gives you problems
[03:09] <LjL> firenx: no, i just can't reach port 80
[03:09] <omar> gnomefreak: I tried 2 pages
[03:09] <darkanyel> sc0tty,you mean totem-gstreamer??
[03:09] <firenx> ok.. musta done something wrong on the firewall..
[03:09] <gnomefreak> omar: care to give me them so i can see what the issue is?
[03:09] <sexcopter8000m> chibiace, ok thanks. i can access one pc fine without fiddling with anything, so probably nothing wrong on my ubuntu side
[03:09] <darkanyel> sc0tty,cos' i cant find totem thumb...
[03:10] <SGL> Can someone help me with sudo commands not working??
[03:10] <LjL> firenx: well, note that on other ports i've tried, i get a "connection refused". on port 80 it just hangs there
[03:10] <sc0tty_> darkanyel: it comes if you use easyubuntu
[03:10] <omar> gnomefreak: ok there you go www.bws.com.pe and http://www.latinka.com/
[03:10] <LjL> firenx: (until it times out of course)
[03:10] <eracc> azza_008, I recommend upgrading to a new motherboard and nVidia AGP or PCIe graphics adapter.
[03:10] <azza_008> io cant
[03:10] <eracc> azza_008, I know that may not be an option.
[03:10] <chibiace> sexcopter8000m, check permissions and workgroups, i guess.
[03:10] <fourat> how to submit a bugreport in ubuntu ?
[03:10] <gnomefreak> omar: you cant open that page at all?
[03:10] <gnomefreak> !bug
[03:10] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[03:11] <gnomefreak> fourat: ^^^
[03:11] <azza_008> well wat can i do then
[03:11] <sexcopter8000m> chibiace, how? i've read about these permissions but don't know where to find/set them
[03:11] <bintut> hello all.. i just installed ubuntu here on my laptop but it's very slow.. :(
[03:11] <sda> I have ubuntu installed on my laptop. What do I have to do, to output the display to my external screen (ordinary lcd with vga)?
[03:11] <omar> gnomefreak: I can open but I need the smaill part in flash, but latinka I cannot open
[03:11] <chibiace> sexcopter8000m, dont ask me, i havent got samba going myself :P
[03:11] <bintut> i don't know what's causing this
[03:11] <eracc> azza_008, Hrm, give the video adapter as much shared memory as your BIOS will allow. Other than that there is not much you can do.
[03:11] <bintut> anyone have a similar experience?
[03:11] <azza_008> how do i do that
[03:12] <gnomefreak> omar: can you give me what version of flash you are using? apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree    will give you version
[03:12] <darkanyel> sc0tty,what is easyubuntu???
[03:12] <gnomefreak> !easyubuntu
[03:12] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[03:12] <gnomefreak> darkanyel: ^^^
[03:13] <eracc> azza_008, If the option is available in your BIOS then you have to reboot and get into the BIOS settings on your PC using the instructions given you by the PC manufacturer. Depends on your BIOS as to how you actually access it. I know how to do mine, not yours.
[03:13] <Dekkard> crap
[03:13] <firenx> LjL: hey could you try again? think i figured out the problem
[03:13] <azza_008> i am in the setup
[03:13] <CromagDK> !ntfs
[03:13] <LjL> firenx: still not connecting
[03:13] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:14] <darkanyel> thanks gnomefreak^^
[03:14] <firenx> damn
[03:14] <firenx> LjL: thought i had fixed the problem hehe
[03:14] <LjL> azza_008: i would also try putting the option   Option "SWCursor" "True"   into the mouse section of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:14] <gnomefreak> omar: i open them without a problem (find out version) than make sure you are using flash. in browser address bar type about:plugins  and see if flash is there
[03:14] <azza_008> what will that do
[03:14] <ukjadoon> hey eracc
[03:14] <eracc> azza_008, you'll just have to go through the BIOS pages until you see the option for amount of RAM to give the video. It may not BE there.
[03:15] <ukjadoon> sorry i was busy breaking my fast
[03:15] <eracc> ukjadoon, yes?
[03:15] <ukjadoon> thanx a million dude
[03:15] <ukjadoon> for the help :D
[03:15] <LjL> azza_008: it will generate the mouse pointer in software rather than using your card's hardware sprite support.  supposed to be slower, but maybe it might solve your problem
[03:15] <eracc> ukjadoon, you're welcome.
[03:15] <ukjadoon> i can finally log in as sudo
[03:15] <ukjadoon> yayy
[03:15] <ukjadoon> \m/\m/
[03:15] <azza_008> ohh ok
[03:16] <LjL> azza_008: also, make sure you actually have "sis" as your video card driver in xorg.conf, rather than "vesa" or whoknowswhat
[03:16] <omar> gnomefreak: I can open but I need the smaill part in flash, but latinka I cannot open
[03:16] <omar>   Instalados: 7.0.68~ubuntu2~dapper1
[03:16] <omar>   Candidato: 7.0.68~ubuntu2~dapper1
[03:16] <omar> gnomefreak: those are the versions
[03:16] <morrye> What distro installs the GUI ubuntu?
[03:16] <voraistos> ?
[03:17] <LjL> morrye: sorry? Ubuntu *has* a GUI by default. just download the "Desktop" version
[03:17] <eracc> azza_008, what LjL said about the driver is good advice too.
[03:17] <gnomefreak> omar: check about:plugins see what it says about flash
[03:17] <morrye> LjL: Could you provide me with a link? I could only find the live cd and the server version.
[03:17] <azza_008> ok
[03:17] <LjL> morrye: the live CD is also an install cd. but ok, hold on
[03:17] <voraistos> hey guys. I have to format my new box. should i use ext3 or reiserFS/4 ?
[03:18] <Ermot> in general is linux/ubuntu supposed to be faster than windows? i did the desktop install but it feels like a java app.  frames/controls take a while to react and stuff.
[03:18] <LjL> morrye: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ <- this is an United States mirror.  the link you want is the first on the page, assuming you have a 32-bit x86 PC
[03:18] <azza_008> do u have the commands
[03:18] <voraistos> Ermot: it should be much faster. are u using the liveCD ?
[03:18] <gnomefreak> omar: both pages opened here without a problem with flash installed (forgot to look at source)
[03:19] <voraistos> Ermot: Ooops no u say u installed...
[03:19] <Ermot> yeah i checked out the liveCD and decided to install it on a partition. that's cool it should be faster. i'll try updating drivers. was just curious if the "java-like" feel was normal
[03:19] <voraistos> Ermot: what do u call java-like ?
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> voraistos: You still need to ask that.  SOme people say installed even though they are running the livecd
[03:20] <LjL> azza_008: well, type "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" (or, for a GUI editor, uh... i think "gsudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf") to load up the xorg.conf file, then search for the "sis" string
[03:20] <voraistos> Ermot: coz java is pretty much shit ;)
[03:20] <sc0tty_> my focus is screwed again :(
[03:20] <Ermot> voraistos: i click a button and half a second later it pushes. the GUI reacts to what i did a little while ago
[03:20] <LjL> azza_008: you should see a Driver "sis" entry in your video card section
[03:20] <sc0tty_> my windows focus is set to click; but I need to click on the titlebar for the window to become active
[03:20] <voraistos> Ermot: that is NOT normal at all...
[03:21] <Ermot> cool i'll look at it later. thanks for help :)
[03:21] <LjL> morrye: there is also a non-Live, non-GUI version of the CD for installing, if you prefer that (it's called the "Alternate" CD). but the "Live" CD is the standard way of installing
[03:22] <voraistos> so anyone knows whats the best? ext3 or ReiserFS ? (the best... or at least which one u prefer to use ?)
[03:22] <sc0tty_> I use reiserfs
[03:22] <oskude> voraistos: ext3, but dont ask why ;)
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> ext3
[03:23] <azza_008> ok
[03:23] <SuperSub> does anyone know if you can map outlook pst files in evolution mail?
[03:23] <voraistos> sc0tty_ and why is that so ?
[03:23] <azza_008> it says vesa
[03:23] <Berto> hi - does anyone here have a Dell Laptop with Ubuntu?  I need to know how to setup power options.  My laptop doesn't go into suspend mode ever or anything
[03:23] <sc0tty_> I find ext3 slow to boot after a power failure or something
[03:23] <lukas_> j #linux.de
[03:23] <lukas_> args
[03:23] <LjL> voraistos: ext3 is default, is well supported (particularly in Ubuntu) and tested. reiserfs has a (rightly? wrongly? who knows) fame for not being very reliable, in certain circles. it *is* supposed to be kind of faster. up to you
[03:23] <azza_008> wat do i change it to
[03:23] <sc0tty_> I have 300GB, so it becomes noticeable
[03:23] <psylocybe> hey, how can i work with .rar files ?
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> SuperSub: You need to export them from outlook in a different format. or into Thunderbird
[03:24] <LjL> azza_008: change it to "sis" instead of "vesa".  then restart X
[03:24] <azza_008> what u mean restart x
[03:24] <Berto> psylocybe, 'unrar' is the package you want
[03:24] <sc0tty_> I kept reiserfs because that's what I used when this box was running debian headless
[03:24] <SuperSub> try prefrences power managment
[03:24] <azza_008> it wont let me save it
[03:24] <sc0tty_> when I got a screen, I installed ubuntu, but only reinstalled /
[03:24] <sc0tty_> which might be ext3 when I come to think of it
[03:25] <LjL> azza_008: i mean press ctrl+alt+backspace, after saving any file you have open in any of your programs. note that, if that doesn't work, you'll be left with a text-only console, and you'll have to open xorg.conf again from there (sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf) and change it back to vesa
[03:25] <psylocybe> Berge, i guess
[03:25] <SuperSub> love the name
[03:25] <sc0tty_> yes my / and /opt are ext3 (ubuntu specific stuff I reinstalled)
[03:25] <SuperSub> jack sparrow
[03:25] <Berge> psylocybe: Hm? What? Me?
[03:25] <sc0tty_> my /data and /home are reiserfs
[03:26] <voraistos> sc0tty_ So would u recommend ReiserFS or Reiser4?
[03:26] <psylocybe> Berge, sorry
[03:26] <sc0tty_> reiserfs is fairly easy to install, the tools are easy to install, and it's (more or less) well supported
[03:26] <SuperSub> jack_sparrow is there a tool in ubuntu to do this?
[03:26] <psylocybe> Berto, apt?
[03:26] <LjL> azza_008: oh, also, you'll have to type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" after changing xorg.conf back -- again ONLY if it does not restart automatically
[03:26] <sc0tty_> I've never had problems with my reiserfs so far
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> SuperSub: No
[03:26] <Berge> psylocybe: No problem. You obviously don't love my name (-;
[03:27] <darkanyel> okas
[03:27] <voraistos> sc0tty_ what kind of "tools" do i get ?
[03:27] <sc0tty_> mmh mkreiserfs
[03:27] <voraistos> lol
[03:27] <azza_008> how do i open it so i can save it man
[03:27] <psylocybe> Berge, its cool :D
[03:27] <sc0tty_> yo ucan find them in synaptic iirc
[03:27] <Berto> psylocybe, what?  I did an apt-get install unrar   and it pulled down, but i have some extra sources defined too
[03:27] <sc0tty_> I find reiserfs to be geekier lol
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> SuperSub: I never found one,  Thanks again to MS..  You can work around it like I said in how you export the file and get it into thunderbird etc
[03:27] <sc0tty_> it sounds better when you talk with people
[03:28] <Berge> psylocybe: It's actually my given first name, so, well, thanks (-:
[03:28] <voraistos> sc0tty_ looool i am gonna check on synaptic what i can get
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> I think there are more recovery tools for ext3 should there be a problem.
[03:28] <sc0tty_> I chose it at first after with the admin at work, he said he found it so much faster for a server
[03:28] <SuperSub> i have a look around
[03:28] <sc0tty_> after *talking
[03:28] <Naked_Snake> YAY
[03:28] <psylocybe> ;)
[03:28] <omar> hello , I am back I still can't open my flash pages
[03:28] <Naked_Snake> Friggin' yay
[03:28] <javaJake> clock-applet: error while loading shared libraries: libplds4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:29] <javaJake> Any ideas?
[03:29] <javaJake> :'(
[03:29] <azza_008> please tell me
[03:29] <azza_008> ???
[03:29] <SuperSub> have u heard of transend tool
[03:29] <psylocybe> Berto, to use, just unrar file ?
[03:29] <SuperSub> looks like it may be capable
[03:29] <Berto> psylocybe, hmmm haven't used it for a while, i think it's unrar -x file.rar
[03:29] <Berto> psylocybe, or maybe unrar x file.rar
[03:29] <javaJake> I was messing around with mplayerplug-in to get it to work with Opera (failed) but now clock-applet crashes
[03:29] <psylocybe> Berto, 10x!
[03:29] <javaJake> It says it can't find libplds4.so
[03:29] <LjL> azza_008: "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" to open is, and alt+w to close and save.  but please mention "ljl" when you're talking to me, otherwise i'll probably miss it
[03:29] <javaJake> But I know it exists
[03:30] <javaJake> locate says it is in opera
[03:30] <javaJake> 's plugin folder
[03:30] <azza_008> ok it doesnt work
[03:30] <javaJake> And /usr/lin
[03:30] <javaJake> lib*
[03:30] <javaJake> This is the error I get:
[03:30] <javaJake> clock-applet: error while loading shared libraries: libplds4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:30] <azza_008> does it need " "
[03:30] <Berto> does anyone know how to force my laptop into suspend mode to see if my power options work at all?
[03:30] <Naked_Snake> Cool beans, baby, I am getting 3 Ubuntu CDs, 1 PC, 1 64 and 1 Mac
[03:30] <eracc> One question before I head out the door for work. Is there an equivalent to FreeBSD's 'fastest_cvsup' command for *buntu? That FreeBSD command looks for the fastest repositories for one.
[03:30] <LjL> azza_008: so now you're into a text-only screen? (yes it needs the quotes)
[03:30] <Jassossovinik> azza_008 - you need to omit the " "
[03:31] <azza_008> ok
[03:31] <LjL> Jassossovinik: no, not in this case i think...
[03:31] <javaJake> eracc, yes there is...
[03:31] <oskude> eracc: yup theres one... forgot the name...
[03:31] <javaJake> eracc, but I can't remember what it is... darn....
[03:31] <javaJake> LOL
[03:31] <eracc> Heh, ok, I know it exists. I'll look for it later. GTG
[03:31] <Jassossovinik> LjL - seriously? i've edited xorg.conf loadsa times and never used "" :-s
[03:32] <LjL> Jassossovinik: well, in mine i do have      Driver          "nvidia"
[03:32] <Jassossovinik> oh right - i thought you meant on the command line - heh!
[03:32] <LjL> Jassossovinik: i don't know if it'd work even without the quotes, but they're definitely there by default
[03:32] <Jassossovinik> yeah, you need it in the syntax of the file
[03:32] <azza_008> it stoill wont work
[03:32] <javaJake> Anybody know anything about clock-applet and libplds4.so???
[03:33] <LjL> azza_008: what does it do?
[03:33] <azza_008> nothing
[03:33] <javaJake> Clock-applet can't find libplds4.so
[03:33] <azza_008> ahh sorry
[03:33] <javaJake> And libplds4.so is in /usr/bin
[03:33] <LjL> azza_008: well, it'll give some error message or something i'd suppose
[03:33] <sc0tty_> voraistos: have fun :)
[03:33] <Jassossovinik> azza_008  what happens - there must ne an error or something
[03:33] <javaJake> lib*
[03:33] <azza_008> i get it
[03:33] <azza_008> i was in alt+F2 lol
[03:34] <LjL> azza_008: and the error is in alt+f1? or is it working?
[03:34] <psylocybe> Berto, "cannot open file.rar" :~
[03:34] <sc0tty_> oh :( I didn't launch irssi in the screen .. pff
[03:34] <azza_008> i get itit wont work it opens a blank page
[03:35] <mon^rch> what sre the benefits of getting the amd64 version instead of just the norm???
[03:35] <LjL> azza_008: oh well... change it back to vesa then
[03:35] <azza_008> no i mean i cant get it to SiS
[03:35] <azza_008> i cant get into it so i can save it
[03:35] <LjL> azza_008: uh? you're saying that "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" doesn't open up the file?
[03:35] <azza_008> yeah
[03:35] <LjL> azza_008: (*without* the quotes this time ;)
[03:36] <stu_> mon^rch: presmably it can take advantage of 64bit architecure, address more memory etc
[03:36] <stu_> whether you will see a performance benefit I dunno
[03:36] <mon^rch> ty stu
[03:36] <LjL> azza_008: what does it say in the status bar, "New File"?
[03:36] <stu_> there must be some benchmarks online
[03:36] <mon^rch> good point
[03:37] <mon^rch> i will try just the norm release of edgy to try it out (almost d/l, yay)
[03:37] <stu_> wtf is edgy?
[03:37] <LjL> !edgy
[03:37] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:37] <mon^rch> next ubuntu...
[03:38] <Beawolfe> can someone please tell me how to get a par2 file to verify in the GUI?
[03:38] <stu_> cool, got a download link handy?
[03:38] <neutron> hello
[03:39] <LjL> stu_: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/knot-3/
[03:39] <mypapit> alam_ria ubuntu
[03:39] <LjL> azza_008, you still there? is nano saying "New file" at the bottom of the screen?'
[03:40] <stu_> mon^rch: benchmarks I have seen indicate a performance gain in using 64bit
[03:40] <mon^rch> I am really happy with how fast ubuntu installs compared to what i've seen in the past
[03:40] <neutron> i got some problems, my keboard stoped working when i startedmy computer today, tried recovery mode, but when i tried to type the root password,every time i pressed a key it gave me a error, and sugested me to "setkey x" or something simmilar, is there any way of fixing this?
[03:41] <azza_008> yeah
[03:41] <konfuzed> hey there , I want to make 50 dvds with video documentaries. but i want it to player in somebodies home televeision dvd-player
[03:41] <LjL> neutron: does it work in the BIOS, or in Windows if you have it?
[03:41] <stu_> konfuzed: you're looking for DVD authoring software
[03:41] <konfuzed> where do I find the info to make that happen
[03:41] <LjL> azza_008: you sure you're typing it correctly? it's "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf", with an uppercase X and two ones
[03:41] <stu_> he wouldnt be able to get to recovery mode if the kb didnt work
[03:42] <LjL> stu_: well, true
[03:42] <konfuzed> ok so what is the easiest to work with DVD authroing software on ubuntu
[03:42] <mon^rch> what is "nano"... some kind of editor? (try vi)
[03:42] <azza_008> i got in
[03:42] <azza_008> try what vi
[03:42] <stu_> nano is a easy to use text editor
[03:42] <voraistos> konfused: maybe try to check ubuntu studio (google). i think they have a "video" section
[03:42] <LjL> mon^rch: yes, it's an editor, it's it's just a *tad* easier to use for newbies (including myself) than vi :)
[03:42] <bintut> hello all.. i just installed ubuntu here on my laptop but it's very slow.. :(
[03:42] <azza_008> im in it there is no writing
[03:42] <stu_> vi sux, use vim
[03:42] <voraistos> konfuzed: maybe try to check ubuntu studio (google). i think they have a "video" section
[03:43] <bintut> i don't know what's causing this.. anyone has a similar problem?
[03:43] <sc0tty> vim is better
[03:43] <azza_008> click new
[03:43] <sc0tty> vi is a little oldish now
[03:43] <mon^rch> vi, vim --- tomato tomAto
[03:43] <LjL> azza_008: click new?
[03:43] <azza_008> ok
[03:43] <stu_> use kate
[03:43] <stu_> pico, nano
[03:43] <stu_> all easy
[03:43] <azza_008> how it isnt a button
[03:43] <LjL> azza_008: err, it was a question... what do you mean "click new"?
[03:44] <azza_008> ohh
[03:44] <mon^rch> yeah, pico is cool
[03:44] <azza_008> i dont know
[03:44] <LjL> mon^rch: pico=nano, basically
[03:44] <azza_008> do u have a differant text editiot
[03:44] <stu_> so what have they changed in edgy
[03:44] <LjL> stu_: kate is fine (as well as gedit), until you're in a console
[03:44] <mon^rch> oh, okey-dokey
[03:44] <azza_008> ok
[03:44] <sc0tty> I use vim for everything
[03:44] <LjL> mon^rch: nano is just a rewritten and improved (sort of) version of pico
[03:44] <neutron> LjL: yeah,it works in the bios, not a keyboard error
[03:44] <LjL> mon^rch: few distros still ship pico
[03:44] <sc0tty> from writing my scripts ; to writing my documents in latex; to writing my emails in mutt :)
[03:45] <mon^rch> there is so MUCH software in linux... it's hard to pick favorites anymore
[03:45] <stu_> to be honest, someday you have to learn to use vim so it may as well be now
[03:45] <LjL> azza_008: look, what does it say if you type "ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf"?
[03:45] <johan> i have two version of ubuntu on my box using grub for db. Now i wanna get rid of the version of ubuntu that has grub on. How can i erase old ubuntu without messing grub
[03:45] <LjL> stu_: well, i've been using linux for a few years, and to be honest i never *had* to use vim, and never actually needed it
[03:45] <azza_008> do u have msn i dont have time to read thi
[03:46] <LjL> stu_: it might have powerful features, i don't doubt that... but i've never felt a big need for them
[03:46] <voraistos> :'(
[03:46] <neutron> so is there any way of fixing it, i think i cen ssh to that machine
[03:46] <LjL> mon^rch: well nano *is* a console text editor
[03:46] <azza_008> ok what do i need to do to edit the file again
[03:46] <stu_> yeah vi or vim are like always installed
[03:46] <neutron> can*
[03:46] <mon^rch> woo-hoo edgy iso d/l'd
[03:47] <LjL> azza_008: "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" - but i suppose it'll still not work, if it was not working before?
[03:47] <stu_> so if you ever find yourself on someone elses box or whatever and you know how to use vi then you dont need to mess about installing someting else
[03:47] <LjL> azza_008: no don't have msn
[03:47] <DJAdmiral> okay - by means of pure stupidity i installed easyubuntu
[03:47] <azza_008> with or without quates
[03:47] <stu_> especially on a distro that doesnt have a package manager
[03:47] <azza_008> quotes
[03:47] <LjL> azza_008: without
[03:47] <DJAdmiral> it refuses to boot - how the heck do i remove it?
[03:47] <Dekkard> can anyone tell me the name of the package that installs the default ubuntu fonts and cursor fonts?
[03:48] <stu_> does anyone use remote desktop to connect to windows boxes, Im finding rdesktop flaky
[03:48] <azza_008> got it
[03:48] <LjL> stu_: well, most distros i've used have nano included. i wouldn't use a distro that only has vi, to be honest. and if "someone else" does, well, it's their problem... they'll *know* how to use it, i'd hope
[03:48] <neutron> any ideeas?
[03:49] <LjL> neutron: honestly no
[03:49] <azza_008> how do i save it
[03:49] <LjL> azza_008: ctrl+x
[03:49] <DJAdmiral> Can anybody help me remove easyubuntu please? it's a pain
[03:49] <mon^rch> easyubuntu???
[03:49] <azza_008> done
[03:50] <azza_008> wat now
[03:50] <LjL> azza_008: so now you have "sis" or "vesa"?
[03:50] <stu_> lol, I thought ubuntu was easy
[03:50] <azza_008> SiS
[03:50] <mon^rch> lol
[03:50] <voraistos> DJadmiral: maybe you should try parted
[03:50] <LjL> azza_008: type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[03:50] <LjL> azza_008: no quotes
[03:50] <azza_008> cant i just restart the pc
[03:50] <stu_> lol
[03:50] <voraistos> DJadmiral: or gparted if you want the gnome interface
[03:50] <LjL> azza_008: uh, yeah. don't see why, though
[03:50] <stu_> I think that command will be a bit qiucker dont u
[03:50] <azza_008> ohh ok
[03:51] <stu_> unless u're really slow on a keyboard :)
[03:51] <mon^rch> lmao
[03:51] <azza_008> sudo /etc/init.d.gdm.restart
[03:51] <mon^rch> u funny stu_
[03:51] <azza_008> i was typing on the wrong keyboard
[03:51] <azza_008> lol
[03:51] <azza_008> oops
[03:51] <neutron> oh, darn
[03:51] <stu_> maybe you should have rebooted lol
[03:52] <Beawolfe> can someone tell a NOOB how I can get a par2 file to verify or work in the GUI?
[03:52] <LjL> azza_008: note that if you type "sudo /et<TAB>ini<TAB>gdm restart" it will auto-complete the filenames for you. maybe not very useful or time-saving in this specific case, but it's handy in general
[03:52] <mon^rch> edgy all burned.... yay now I go to install back in about 40 mins
[03:52] <stu_> Beawolfe: you dont like the command version ?
[03:52] <mon^rch> ta-ta
[03:52] <stu_> ciao
[03:52] <stu_> heh
[03:52] <Beawolfe> cant get that to work either
[03:53] <DJAdmiral> voraistos: what do you mean by a partitioning program?
[03:53] <azza_008> tells me to login
[03:53] <azza_008> now it is in no gui
[03:53] <LjL> azza_008: then do so, and see if the mouse is working
[03:53] <azza_008> damn
[03:53] <azza_008> gui is gone
[03:53] <LjL> azza_008: ah, you're still in a console?
[03:53] <azza_008> yeah
[03:53] <azza_008> wat do i type now
[03:53] <LjL> azza_008: well then "sis" isn't working. edit the file again, and put "vesa" back
[03:53] <azza_008> ok
[03:54] <LjL> azza_008: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:54] <azza_008> ill reset it first lol just to be safe
[03:54] <azza_008> and wat the hell is vesa
[03:54] <DJAdmiral> voraistos: why are you telling me to use a partitioning program?
[03:54] <HeavyThinker> DJAdmiral: dj, you have the problem where you installed easyubuntu, it doesnt start, and now you cant remove it, right?
[03:54] <anilomkar> I want to compile and run Java in linux please help me
[03:54] <DJAdmiral> HeavyThinker: Right on.
[03:55] <DJAdmiral> !java
[03:55] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[03:55] <LjL> azza_008: VESA is a standard protocol for communicating with graphics cards, that most (all) graphics card for PC implement. this allows your system to use a card even if it doesn't have drivers *specific* to that card. however, it's slower and more limited than if you were using the specific drivers.
[03:55] <[Yatta] > quick question is there a single log file that shows who has used the su command?? no /var/log/messages
[03:55] <bin_laden> fggfhghgj
[03:55] <HeavyThinker> DjAdmiral: had the same problem here, still havent got a fix for you though :(
[03:55] <voraistos> DJAdmiral: sorry i wasnt around, but the best is not to use easyubuntu. only put shit on your system.
[03:55] <stu_> trying to get my ibm thinkpad buttons to work, it says insmod nvram - but I dont have the module - how do I get it ?
[03:55] <azza_008> ok
[03:55] <azza_008> wat now
[03:55] <LjL> [Yatta] : /var/log/auth.log i suppose
[03:55] <HeavyThinker> voraistos: mmm yeah, lucky this is my test system
[03:56] <snoop> I need help installin gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse it wont install :(
[03:56] <LjL> azza_008: you changed back the file, and saved it? if so, type again sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:56] <DJAdmiral> HeavyThinker, voraistos: I used easyubuntu the last time round - it worked just fine :S
[03:56] <stu_> snoop: what are you installing it with and what do you mean it wont install
[03:56] <[Yatta] > LjL: thanks.. i'll check it out
[03:56] <voraistos> DJAdmiral: just do it the normal apt way
[03:56] <UKMatt> Hey I have two not really ubuntu questions, how do I create a package with a password in UB w/ unrar?
[03:56] <omar> guys, I can't open some pages with flash, that's weird 'cos I opened them some days ago, I uninstall and reinstall flashplugin-nonfree, but I still can't open 'em, what can I do, should I install easyubuntu or automatix, some people here tell me not to do that
[03:56] <snoop> stu_: i tried to apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse but I get errors
[03:56] <Beawolfe> stu_ any help if possible..........i have tried the command line and I guess my old dos ways dont help at all...........thats why I want to try in the GUI
[03:57] <azza_008> all capitals
[03:57] <DJAdmiral> voraistos: That doesn't work. I wouldn't be here if I hadn't tried that.
[03:57] <LjL> azza_008: ?
[03:57] <azza_008> for vesta
[03:57] <LjL> azza_008: vesa you mean? no
[03:57] <azza_008> ok
[03:57] <LjL> azza_008: "vesa", with quotes, and lower case
[03:57] <[Yatta] > LjL: nope.....
[03:57] <DJAdmiral> omar: no matter what - do not install easyubuntu or automatix. it's an absolute royal pain.
[03:57] <Dr_willis> omar,  its possible the flash sites did some updates
[03:57] <azza_008> ok kewl
[03:58] <stu_> Beawolfe: u talking about par yeah? been ages since I used it
[03:58] <UKMatt> Creating a .zip (or some other form) with a password?  anyone?
[03:58] <HeavyThinker> voraistos: "subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" - apt's output when i try to apt-get remove easyubuntu
[03:58] <snoop> stu_ any idea?
[03:58] <stu_> snoop: unless you explain in more details the error you are getting no one can help you
[03:58] <HeavyThinker> voraistos: not very helpful, really
[03:58] <stu_> you dont walk into mcdonalds and ask for a burger do you
[03:58] <Beawolfe> stu_ yeah par2 util
[03:58] <azza_008> ok it works again
[03:58] <stu_> Beawolfe: I used to run it from command line and never had any issues
[03:58] <azza_008> lol wat was the mouse thing
[03:58] <snoop> stu_
[03:58] <stu_> dont have any par files handy tho
[03:58] <snoop>   gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse: Depends: liblame0 (>= 3.96.1-1) but it is not installable
[03:58] <snoop> E: Broken packages
[03:59] <omar> DJAdmiral: I know I don want to install 'em but I need to use those pages those are www.latinka.com and www.bws.com.pe
[03:59] <omar> DJAdmiral: please
[03:59] <LjL> [Yatta] : well, here it does show whenever i use sudo. it also shows if i use su, although the username of the invoker isn't listed...
[03:59] <stu_> snoop: are you using apt-get ?
[03:59] <snoop> yes
[03:59] <stu_> or a gui based thing
[03:59] <snoop> apt-get
[03:59] <azza_008> LjL:what was the mouse thing
[03:59] <LjL> [Yatta] : see, for example this is saying that i typed "sudo su"  Sep 27 15:58:52 localhost sudo:      ljl : TTY=pts/1 ; PWD=/home/ljl ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/bin/su
[03:59] <DJAdmiral> omar: No idea - as of the moment the flashplayer-nonfree package is going nuts.
[04:00] <stu_> I had the same issue, was searching for wrong thing
[04:00] <stu_> one sec Ill try find the right one
[04:00] <snoop> ok
[04:00] <omar> DJAdmiral: :(
[04:00] <SatanGolga> how do u start vmware in the background when starting from terminal, and how do u make it start from Applications>System Tools>Vmware  because it just loading not starting atm, thx
[04:00] <DJAdmiral> voraistos: you're confusing me: I'm talking about a program here - not ubuntu.
[04:00] <[Yatta] > shot i'm on a centos box right now.... so it may be different here..
[04:00] <Beawolfe> stu_ like I said my old dos ways are keping me from using the command line....................I cant seem to get to the dir where the files are to verify with the command line.........I guess my mind is strting to go
[04:00] <DJAdmiral> voraistos: Why the heck are you telling me to use a partitioning program when I'm just having troubles with a program?
[04:01] <[Yatta] > i can't ssh into my box @ home?? somon prob kick the cat5 out ...argghhh
[04:01] <anilomkar> I am not able to play Video in linux what to do please help me
[04:01] <voraistos> DJAdmiral: the problem is that this prog srwed your system. Am I right ?
[04:01] <LjL> azza_008: well, you should put    Option "SWcursor" "True"       in /etc/X11/xorg.conf,  in the section that says Section "InputDevice" followed by Identifier "Configured Mouse"
[04:01] <LjL> azza_008: well, you should put    Option "SWcursor" "True"       in /etc/X11/xorg.conf,  in the section that says Section "InputDevice" followed by Identifier "Configured Mouse"
[04:01] <DJAdmiral> voraistos: ...
[04:01] <voraistos> screwed *
[04:01] <azza_008> ok
[04:01] <stu_> snoop: try sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[04:01] <LjL> azza_008: just put that before the EndSection line
[04:01] <HeavyThinker> voraistos: nah, it jsut doesnt start and the package refuses to be apt-get removed
[04:01] <HeavyThinker> voraistos: easyubuntu, i mean
[04:01] <DJAdmiral> voraistos: You assume things - it didn't completely "screw up" my system.
[04:02] <azza_008> u mean emulate 3 buttons
[04:02] <UKMatt> there isn't a skype version for ubuntu is there?
[04:02] <DJAdmiral> voraistos: The only trouble i'm having is that it refuses to uninstall - that is all.
[04:02] <DJAdmiral> UKMatt: there is.
[04:02] <DJAdmiral> !skype
[04:02] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[04:02] <LjL> azza_008: no, i don't mean that
[04:02] <voraistos> DJAdmiral: I think there is just no solution. since i dont use easyubuntu because i know it is crappy. Ill try to make a simple .sh script so people can read DVDs and use youtube easily ;)
[04:03] <azza_008> i cant find anything else
[04:03] <anilomkar> I want to play Video in Linux please help me
[04:03] <harisund> Does anybody know how I can fill up a hard disk completely? I want to check if the hard disk is working (as in each sector) . I am thinking there is some dd command perhaps?
[04:03] <UKMatt> cool ty!
[04:03] <carld> is there a grub.conf on dapper?  I am used to fedora :(
[04:03] <azza_008> cant find SW
[04:03] <snoop> stu_ ?
[04:03] <thoreauputic> carld:  /boot/grub/menu.list
[04:03] <LjL> azza_008: of course you can't find it... you have to *add* it
[04:03] <azza_008> ohh where
[04:03] <stu_> snoop: try sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[04:04] <DJAdmiral> harisund: you can unpack a googolplex
[04:04] <jrib> ubotu: tell anilomkar about video
[04:04] <stu_> did you get that?
[04:04] <LjL> azza_008: i'd pastebin an example, except i can't connect to the pastebin
[04:04] <azza_008> ohh ok
[04:04] <LjL> azza_008: before the "EndSection" line of your "Configured Mouse" section
[04:04] <azza_008> ok
[04:04] <HeavyThinker> voraistos, DJAdmiral: found a thread which might help for the easyubuntu thing - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=bbb8b87d22fa9fbeac269217c8258cba&t=257767
[04:04] <foo> How can I install a network printer via CLI ?
[04:04] <harisund> DJAdmiral: I only wish I could :) ... I haveto check every secor of 200 (well, 186) GB hard disk ..
[04:04] <thoreauputic> carld: sorry menu.lst
[04:04] <carld> 2.6.15-27 breaks my 3945 wireless card, any other reports of this?
[04:04] <carld> thoreauputic, thanks
[04:04] <thoreauputic> carld: np :)
[04:04] <gallag> !restricted > anilomkar:
[04:04] <gallag> !restricted > anilomkar
[04:05] <Arrick> morning everyone
[04:05] <DJAdmiral> harisund: There is this superpacked gzip tar of an actual googolplex. Let me find it and you might be able to use it.
[04:05] <voraistos> HeavyThinker: thx for your HeavySearch :)
[04:05] <azza_008> so what do i put in
[04:05] <snoop> stu_ isnt that the same thing as login as root and running the apt-get install package
[04:05] <gallag> anilomkar: oops -- yoy already got it
[04:05] <Arrick> is there a way to put yahoo messenger on a ubuntu breezy box?
[04:05] <HeavyThinker> voraistos: well, im solving this problem for myself as well ;)
[04:05] <azza_008> can u copy and paste an exaple here
[04:05] <thoreauputic> carld:  grub.conf is a Red Hat_ism
[04:05] <LjL> azza_008:   Option "SWcursor" "True"
[04:05] <Arrick> if I can do it, I can get my wife off of windows
[04:06] <LjL> azza_008: no, i cannot flood the channel
[04:06] <stu_> snoop: the package name is a bit different to what you said earlier isnt it?
[04:06] <azza_008> i mean just 2 lines
[04:06] <voraistos> HeavyThinker: soon we will need a wiki entry "HowTo remove Easyubuntu" lol
[04:06] <snoop> oh yeah ok
[04:06] <krazykit> 
[04:06] <DJAdmiral> HeavyThinker: Thank you so much - The next time I'm in your city I'm buying you a lobster dinner.
[04:06] <snoop> I need it cause I want to play mp3 files stu_
[04:06] <HeavyThinker> DJAdmiral: cheers.
[04:06] <stu_> snoop: I may have installed libgstreamer0.10-0 first
[04:07] <krazykit> sorry, ssh'd in from  a mac... causing issues :-/
[04:07] <harisund> whoa DJAdmiral I thought you were joking. Where can I find this googolplex you are talking about?
[04:07] <LjL> azza_008: found a pastebin that works... look at here http://pastebin.ca/184031 - it should be similar to this
[04:07] <snoop> stu_ I did
[04:07] <snoop> all I need was this one
[04:07] <stu_> snoop: what was the command that you ran, which gave you the error ?
[04:07] <stu_> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:07] <stu_> See `config.log' for more details.
[04:07] <DJAdmiral> harisund: One sec.
[04:08] <snoop> nope
[04:08] <Tyk0s> i use 1280x1024 screen but some of my screen is outside the my computer screen :P hope you understand me
[04:08] <stu_> ^^ any ideas anyone ?
[04:08] <johan> when trying to install network printer it keeps asking for user and password how can i disable this
[04:08] <foo> How can I install a network printer via CLI with the server edition?
[04:08] <LjL> stu_: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[04:08] <jrib> stu_: install build-essential
[04:08] <snoop> but I got to install it now, and I can play the mp3 file :), thanks man
[04:08] <LjL> !tell stu_ about build-essential
[04:08] <johan> is this same foo as in #lfd
[04:08] <snoop> stu_ thanks
[04:08] <elddik> hi, i'm still trying to figure out this sshd putty problem. I've experimented with TCPKeepAlive on both sides and the connection still disapears. at that point, i can no longer ping the sshserver machine from my local. however other machines on the network can connect/ping/surf to the sshserver box. any ideas
[04:08] <stu_> snoop: working now ?
[04:08] <snoop> yeah
[04:08] <snoop> ty
[04:08] <azza_008> done
[04:09] <elddik> or pity ?
[04:09] <azza_008> do i need to restart
[04:09] <Arrick> DJAdmiral, is there a such thing as easyubuntu?
[04:10] <UKMatt> Hey, so does anyone know of a reason that Skype cannot connect to the internet?
[04:10] <UKMatt> (and I don't have a firewall)
[04:10] <azza_008> LjL:would i need to restart
[04:10] <stu_> UKMatt: could be a NAT issue
[04:10] <stu_> or PAT
[04:10] <UKMatt> stu_, what are those?
[04:10] <elddik> LjL http://cl1p.net offers a nice paste service
[04:10] <stu_> you have a router?
[04:10] <DJAdmiral> Arrick: yes - it's a terrible terrible program
[04:11] <ba> Can anyone help a nube?
[04:11] <jrib> !helpme
[04:11] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:11] <DJAdmiral> harisund: here you go: http://www.selenic.com/googolplex/
[04:11] <azza_008> LjL would it need to be restarted
[04:11] <LjL> azza_008: yes, ctrl+alt+backspace again
[04:11] <azza_008> ok
[04:11] <stu_> UKMatt: do you have a router? or does your pc have hte public IP address?
[04:12] <stu_> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!  <--- anyone ?
[04:12] <cherwin> everything is a file in linux, if you want to access for instance your harddrive you look for /dev/hda, so with that in the back of your head, where does eth0 reside?
[04:12] <DJAdmiral> harisund: that should hopefully fill up your hard disk a bzillion times over =D
[04:12] <Beawolfe> stu_ any suggestions besides quit?
[04:12] <UKMatt> stu_, no router, and public IP address?  what do you mean
[04:12] <erUSUL> stu_: install xlib-dev ??
[04:12] <LjL> elddik: ok, will keep that in mind. i suppose it might just be my connection though, since i've tried a few random pastebins and i could hardly connect
[04:12] <azza_008> still does it
[04:12] <RedKrieg> I'm going to be generating packages for a small project written in python and I have no experience making packages.  there are only a few files in the trunk right now and no make files, configure files, etc.  Does anyone have experience with this that can offer some guidance?
[04:12] <stu_> cant find that package erUSUL
[04:13] <jrib> ba: what do you need help with?
[04:13] <erUSUL> UKMatt: if you have a router you need to nat (redirect) the apropiate ports to your pc
[04:13] <ba> Can anyone point me in the direction to get some dummy help for installing java?
[04:13] <azza_008> far out
[04:13] <stu_> Beawolfe: what error u get from comand line ?
[04:13] <jrib> ubotu: tell ba about java
[04:13] <azza_008> wat else could it bre
[04:13] <Answer> How do I restart the sound system,  like /etc/init.d/networking restart, but for sound?
[04:13] <stu_> ba: you want the JRE ?
[04:13] <UKMatt> erusul, i don't have a router
[04:13] <erUSUL> stu_: the name may be different but is something similar
[04:13] <erUSUL> UKMatt: firewall ??
[04:13] <LjL> azza_008: well, then i'm at a loss, i'm sorry... all i can say is that, in any case, using VESA as your video driver is definitely *not* optimal, and you should either manage to get the correct driver working (but... i don't know why "sis" wouldn't work), or get a new card
[04:13] <elddik> ba: http://www.javalobby.org/java/forums/t72809.html
[04:13] <UKMatt> erusul, no
[04:13] <LjL> azza_008: note that i think you can get a decent AGP card for about 30
[04:13] <harisund> DJAdmiral: sweet...thanks
[04:14] <ba> I think so.  I am a very green ubuntu user.  can't work it out
[04:14] <snoop> stu_ try to PATH= to where X files ar einstalled? dont know
[04:14] <optikal> I have exim setup to relay all outgoing mail through my isp's mail server, however on my machine I have 4 different public IPs set and I'm getting some mail errors because when exim sends the email its using the 4th IP set (eth0:4) not the primary one I want it to use (eth0).. how do I tell it which ethernet address to send from?
[04:14] <DJAdmiral> harisund: no problemo
[04:14] <azza_008> LjL wat is a nice lite weight browser
[04:14] <omar> guys, I can't open some pages with flash, that's weird 'cos I opened them some days ago, I uninstall and reinstall flashplugin-nonfree, but I still can't open 'em, what can I do, should I install easyubuntu or automatix, some people here tell me not to do that
[04:14] <jrib> ba: ubotu sent you isntructions in a private message
[04:14] <azza_008> brb actually
[04:14] <erUSUL> stu_: is xlibs-dev
[04:14] <Answer> How do I restart the sound system,  like /etc/init.d/networking restart, but for sound?
[04:14] <stu_> cheers
[04:14] <TheGateKeeper> ba: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[04:14] <jrib> omar: does badgerbadgerbadger.com work?
[04:14] <cherwin> look for alsa in init.d
[04:14] <Beawolfe> stu_ invalid operation
[04:14] <LjL> azza_008: a *very* light-weight one is "links2", which can work both in text-mode and as a graphical browser. otherwise, i think Epiphany is relatively light-weight compared to Firefox
[04:15] <stu_> Beawolfe: what command are you issuing?
[04:15] <erUSUL> omar: try 'sudo update-flashplugin'
[04:15] <elddik> Anyone familiar with sshd magic around?
[04:15] <harisund> elddik: yes?
[04:15] <harisund> elddik: just ask your question. Someone might be able to help you out
[04:16] <Beawolfe> par2 pan/ and filename
[04:16] <snoop> stu_ you know how can I change my resolution to 800x600 ?
[04:16] <Arrick> !fixres
[04:16] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:16] <ba> Thank you.
[04:16] <elddik> harisund: i putty over to a lamp server w/ zenoss and suddnly the connection is lost (software reset) . after that I can't reach the box until some period of time
[04:16] <optikal> I have exim setup to relay all outgoing mail through my isp's mail server, however on my machine I have 4 different public IPs set and I'm getting some mail errors because when exim sends the email its using the 4th IP set (eth0:4) not the primary one I want it to use (eth0).. how do I tell it which ethernet address to send from?
[04:16] <omar> jrib: yes it works
[04:16] <stu_> right click on the desktop theres a thing there to change youre res
[04:16] <Beawolfe> stu_ par2 pan/ and filename for par2 file
[04:16] <jrib> omar: okay, can you give an example of a site that isn't working?
[04:16] <snoop> you sure?
[04:17] <omar> jrib: latinka.com
[04:17] <snoop> i dont think so
[04:17] <stu_> Beawolfe: I dunno what the syntax is supposed to be, so I cant really help
[04:17] <harisund> elddik: hmmm.....are you sure it is a SSH server issue? If you have physical access to the server, maybe you can try running tcpdump on it
[04:17] <SatanGolga> how do u make it Vmware server start from Applications>System Tools>Vmware Server? it comes up in the taskbar but then nothing happens, works from terminal as root though
[04:17] <elddik> harisund: it seems the server refuses my connection , even for http after i lose ssh. as soon as i re-establish ssh connection - everythinke else works
[04:17] <jrib> omar: what happens exactly?
[04:17] <omar> jrib: doesn't open at all
[04:17] <elddik> harisund: also, other machines on the same network, can access the machine when i can't
[04:18] <snoop> System - Preferences - Screen Resolution wont work when I set it to 800x600 it goes back to its defualt
[04:18] <stu_> Beawolfe: par2verify
[04:18] <omar> jrib: but there are some pages that works
[04:18] <snoop> any idea?
[04:18] <As1> LjL: can u search for wat the thing might be
[04:18] <harisund> elddik: hmmm...doesn't quite sound like a SSh problem. Do you have physical access to the server, and a KVM perhaps?
[04:18] <As1> the SiS thing
[04:18] <elddik> harisund: its 2hrs away :( gonna make a trek there later, but want to be armed with ideas for debugging. don't have access to the box atm
[04:18] <jrib> omar: I'm not sure why that would happen.  Do you have javascript enabled?
[04:18] <anilomkar> ubotu, when i am trying to logging in to Sify Broad band i am getting a msg like Login Failed: get the latest version of client what to do?
[04:18] <ubotu> when: minimalistic personal calendar. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.23-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 29 kB, installed size 124 kB
[04:18] <snoop> anyone know how can I change my resolution to 800x600 ?
[04:18] <omar> erUSUL: not results
[04:18] <stu_> Beawolfe: par2verify <par2 file>
[04:18] <Dr_willis> !fixres
[04:18] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:18] <omar> jrib: I dont know
[04:19] <erUSUL> omar: have you restarted firefox ?
[04:19] <elddik> harisund: i can connect to it every few minutes, does that help?
[04:19] <sonium> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre1/31128-1.jpg <- how can I make the gnome-panel look like this? especially the two-line orientation of the desktop switcher applet and the clock?
[04:19] <As1> LjL: it is azza
[04:19] <harisund> elddik: uh oh.. whaht I am thinking is perhaps running a tcpdump on the server and checking if it receives connections from your client side..
[04:19] <ermak> can anyone help me to get my tv-tuner work?
[04:19] <stu_> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3) (headers and libraries) not foun <---- anyone ?
[04:19] <omar> erUSUL: yes
[04:19] <snoop> anyone know how can I change my resolution to 800x600 ?
[04:19] <harisund> elddik: that ... or perhaps check the ssh server logs for anything funny that you might find
[04:20] <erUSUL> omar: then i do not know what may be wrong
[04:20] <stu_> snoop: two people have already done a !fixres for you, read it
[04:20] <omar> erUSUL: thanks anyways
[04:20] <As1> LjL
[04:20] <elddik> harisund: i checked hte logs, found some Signal 15s
[04:20] <omar> jrib: I dont know how to enable my javascrip
[04:20] <diminthedam> hello. is it possible to make an Ubuntu ISO from my own server set up?
[04:20] <stu_> snoop: do yo unow know how to change or are you having problems changing res??
[04:20] <jrib> omar: what browser are you using?
[04:20] <Dr_willis> sonium,  you sure thts not a 'design concept/idea'
[04:21] <Arrick> is there a way to put yahoo messenger on a ubuntu breezy box?
[04:21] <As1> LjL: http://www.sis.com/support/support_faqs_16.htm
[04:21] <omar> jrib: firefox
[04:21] <snoop> sorry dint see it
[04:21] <harisund> elddik: hmmm... srry .. running out of ideas here...
[04:21] <jrib> omar: edit > preferences > enable javascript
[04:21] <qos> hey all
[04:21] <tyler_> Hello room
[04:21] <snoop> This Howto is intended for those who have installed or upgraded to Hoary
[04:22] <snoop> :|
[04:22] <qos> i deleted a file on a ext3 partition. how are the chances to get it back?
[04:22] <tyler_> How does one go about testing to see if OpenGL is working?
[04:22] <Alan-D> I have question concerning the command "chgrp".  Does it change the ownership of a directory or just the access for a group to a directory?
[04:22] <omar> jrib: you mean in firefox or in the system
[04:22] <stu_> glbox or summin innit
[04:22] <elddik> harisund: thanks for trying. i guess a trip out to the farm is unavoidable
[04:22] <jrib> omar: firefox
[04:23] <stu_> glboxes?
[04:23] <sproingie> Alan-D: it changes which group owns the file or directory
[04:23] <davisdmg> helloi
[04:24] <davisdmg> i have a question
[04:24] <harisund> Alan-D: only the group that owns it. If it doesn't have group write permissions, it still doesn't help
[04:24] <Beawolfe> stu_ I tried that and it keeps coming back telling me there is no par file present even tho I am looking at it in the file browser
[04:24] <As1> LjL are you here
[04:24] <sproingie> !ask
[04:24] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:24] <Alan-D> sproingie: how do I change the access to a directory for a specific group?
[04:24] <tyler_> is there any kind of terminal command to check for opengl status?
[04:24] <omar> jrib: it's enable :(
[04:25] <sproingie> Alan-D: you mean add a group but otherwise not change the access?
[04:25] <kuja> Hi, I'm using the Dapper LiveCD using my 512MB as a persistent storage device. Space tends to get used up quickly, and I was wondering if there was a way of getting a list of files and directories directly on my pen drive and not the CD.
[04:25] <jrib> omar: ok, close all instances of firefox.  Then in a temrinal run 'firefox -safe-mode'.  Any difference?
[04:25] <sproingie> Alan-D: setfacl.  which afaik doesn't work on stock ubuntu
[04:25] <stu_> Beawolfe: what are you typing exactly?
[04:26] <ivaldi> tyler_: type glxgears in a terminal. if the animation isn't choppy, it should be working
[04:26] <erUSUL> Alan-D: chmod g+xw /path/to/dir (the dir must be owned by that group chgrp group /path/to/dir)
[04:26] <As1> might it help if i update
[04:26] <LjL> As1: yes, hm, well at a quick glance it would appear they only list drivers for the 2.4 kernel, and ubuntu uses 2.6
[04:26] <Alan-D> sproingie: no, I mean create a directory under a user name X and a group Y.  And have group Y W+R access to the directory of user X.
[04:26] <Beawolfe> stu_ par2verify /pan csi
[04:26] <erUSUL> Alan-D: or rightclick with nautilus and change permisions graphically
[04:26] <tyler_> is there a less wishy washy way to see?
[04:26] <carld> what do I install to install the kernel source for vmware configuration?
[04:26] <davisdmg> i have an ati mobility radeon 9700 in mi portatil....how can i put mi resolution in 1280x800?(Sorry mi english)
[04:26] <brush01uk> Greetings Everyone, hope all well ?
[04:26] <omar> jrib: nothing
[04:27] <stu_> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3) (headers and libraries) not foun <---- anyone ? ive tried install all sorts of QT libs etc but still no luck
[04:27] <tyler_> its an older video card, it could just be choppy because of that
[04:27] <stu_> not sure which package it is I need exactly
[04:27] <stu_> Beawolfe: what is the name of the par2 file
[04:27] <diminthedam> hi room: is it possible to create an ISO out of my Ubuntu installation? for easy installs on other computers, later on
[04:27] <hastesaver> stu_, ugh, why are you installing apps by compiling instead of from the repos?
[04:27] <jrib> omar: don't know then.  That's really strange that it doesn't work on some sites.  Hope you figure it out
[04:27] <sproingie> Alan-D: oh that's easy, what erUSUL said.  chgrp Y dirname; chmod g+rw dirname
[04:27] <LjL> As1: well no that's probably just the framebuffer drivers, nevermind... but however, the "details" pages on the X drivers don't seem to be there
[04:27] <stu_> Beawolfe: you need to run par2verify nameoffile.par2
[04:27] <bintut> anybody can help me here..?  my gnome is very, very slow.. :)
[04:27] <bintut> :(
[04:27] <Beawolfe> stu_ csi.par2
[04:27] <LjL> As1: and i don't know what card model you have... do you?
[04:27] <omar> jrib: thnx anyways
[04:28] <sproingie> Alan-D: if you want to change all the existing files and dirs under that directory, use the -R flag to both commands
[04:28] <stu_> hastesaver: dunno, I downloaded some theme and Im following the readme
[04:28] <stu_> Beawolfe: par2verify csi.par2
[04:28] <As1> umm ill tell u in a minute
[04:28] <stu_> par2repair csi.par2 to fix it
[04:28] <LjL> stu_: you probably want to install "libqt3-mt-dev"
[04:28] <kromel> anyone ever had issues when you click on the Audio tab, it closes Winecfg?
[04:28] <qos> i deleted a file on a ext3 partition. how are the chances to get it back?
[04:28] <sproingie> Alan-D: or you can right-click the folder in nautilus and select the permissions tab
[04:29] <As1> 661/741/760/761 PCI/AGP VGA Display
[04:29] <As1> thats all it says
[04:29] <ivaldi> tyler_: type "glxinfo | grep direct" in a terminal. if it replies with "direct rendering: yes", it's working.
[04:29] <LjL> qos: almost zero. ext3 is very badly suited for recovery of deleted files.
[04:29] <davisdmg> anything have an ati?
[04:29] <qos> LjL, i didnt wipe it. simple deletion ... no chances`?
[04:29] <tyler_> does anyone know which drivers are best for Geforce2?
[04:29] <stu_> nvidia ones
[04:29] <As1> LjL:661/741/760/761 PCI/AGP VGA Display
[04:30] <Alan-D> sproingie: ver: ubuntu 6.06:  If I user the "chgrp" command, all users will have access to the directory even if it's in the home directory of another user?
[04:30] <tyler_> thanx
[04:30] <chantra> hi guys, does anyone knows how to get the network interface tun0 to come up?
[04:30] <LjL> qos: well, what kind of file was it? was it small? you might have a chance of getting [some]  data back by doing a raw disk dump
[04:30] <stu_> ifconfig tun0 up ?
[04:30] <stu_> wtf is tun0 ?
[04:30] <chantra> stu_: nope :s
[04:30] <sproingie> Alan-D: i think all the directories beneath it have to be +x, which they probably will be, but otherwise, yes
[04:30] <Dr_willis> its for qemu i think
[04:30] <YoussefAssad> hello
[04:30] <timotej> who know where is slovenia ?
[04:30] <YoussefAssad> I was wondering if anyone here is successfully using AIGLX
[04:31] <chantra> stu_: root@edgytop:~# ifconfig tun0 up
[04:31] <chantra> tun0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[04:31] <YoussefAssad> timotej: balkans
[04:31] <sproingie> Alan-D: you'll need to use chmod g+rwx for it to be totally writable by the group
[04:31] <chantra> stu_: it is a king of network tunnel
[04:31] <erUSUL> chantra: modprobe tun
[04:31] <Alan-D> sproingie: thanks for the info!
[04:31] <As1> 661/741/760/761 PCI/AGP VGA Display
[04:31] <qos> LjL, it was huge... part of a tv recording. 2 files missing... everone 1GB. but since that accident i didnt touch the device... no write/no read actions
[04:31] <Beawolfe> stu_ tried that with the same results...............no such file
[04:31] <timotej> no slovenia in EU ;)
[04:31] <chantra> erUSUL: done
[04:31] <tyler_>          is opengl dependant on   DRI?
[04:31] <stu_> Beawolfe: are you in the same directory as the file???
[04:32] <stu_> are no KDE headers installed. This will fail <--- tried search for kde with filter of headers but not finding anything that looks usefull
[04:32] <darkanyel> hi
[04:32] <chantra> [17197267.148000]  tun: Universal TUN/TAP device driver, 1.6
[04:32] <chantra> [17197267.148000]  tun: (C) 1999-2004 Max Krasnyansky <maxk@qualcomm.com>
[04:32] <erUSUL> chantra: now you have the device ifconfig tun0 up
[04:32] <chantra> nope
[04:32] <darkanyel> anyoone know how can i restore the defaults fonts in ubuntu??
[04:32] <Beawolfe> stu_ I guess not.....and there in lies the problem...I cant seem to get to that dir from the command line either
[04:33] <LjL> qos: well, if it was that large, it'll have been scattered across the disk a lot. you'd have to find out where the various segments lay, which is almost impossible. also, if it was a binary file (such as a TV recording is), you don't even have a search string to search for.  note that "apt-cache search undelete" will show you three program that attempt to perform undeletion of files, but AFAIK they only really work on ext2.
[04:33] <stu_> Beawolfe: and why not
[04:33] <LjL> As1: well, those models don't even appear in the driver listings... :\
[04:33] <As1> damn
[04:33] <stu_> Beawolfe: stick with using tab to complete the names of file and folders
[04:33] <As1> ill wait for fedora
[04:33] <darkanyel> !easyubuntu
[04:33] <Fracture> how do I force the package manager to update my grub menu.lst file whenever a new kernel is installed ?
[04:33] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[04:33] <stu_> Beawolfe: and remember its case sensitive
[04:33] <chantra> erUSUL: even though I modprobed tun, there is no interface showing in ifconfig -a
[04:33] <LjL> stu_: "sudo aptitude install libkde4-dev"
[04:34] <stu_> thanks again
[04:34] <LjL> stu_: sorry, that's "sudo aptitude install kdelibs4-dev"
[04:34] <Beawolfe> stu_ very new to linux and I will admit very dumb about command line................its not like old dos commands
[04:34] <Dr_willis> Fracture,  it should be doing that anyway. or you can run that 'update-grub' command
[04:34] <stu_> ja, all I needed was the package name
[04:34] <Dr_willis> Beawolfe,   why should it be. :P its not dos.. and thats a GOOD thing.
[04:34] <Fracture> Dr_willis: its not doing it automatically.. I must have stopped it somehow. How can I make it do it automatically >?
[04:34] <stu_> Beawolfe: where is this file in your filesystem?
[04:34] <stu_> desktop ?
[04:35] <darkanyel> anyoone know how can i restore the defaults fonts in ubuntu??
[04:35] <Dr_willis> Fracture,  ive never seen or heard of anyone who made it not do that.
[04:35] <stu_> folder on your desktop?
[04:35] <Dr_willis> Fracture,  so i got no idea.
[04:35] <Fracture> Dr_willis: lol
[04:35] <Fracture> Dr_willis: no worries, thanks
[04:35] <Beawolfe> home/pan/pan which is my d/l folder
[04:35] <Dr_willis> Fracture,  unless you totally edited/altered the grub conf file by hand. It only changes a select area of that file.
[04:35] <johan> do you know a site that uses java to test if my firefox works with java
[04:36] <erUSUL> chantra: ls -l /dev/net/tun
[04:36] <Dr_willis> Fracture,  check for the lines -->  ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[04:36] <Dr_willis>   ## lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified
[04:36] <LjL> Johan: http://www.bodo.com/javame.htm
[04:36] <Beawolfe> stu_ home/pan/pan ...which is my d/l folder
[04:36] <johan> thanks
[04:36] <Fracture> Dr_willis: I run dapper day to day.  I installed edgy in s spare partition, and during the edgy installation, I didn't tell it that /dev/hdc1 was my boot partition, so during the installation process, I had to skip the 'setup boot loader' step, then manually edit /etc/fstab to configure the /boot mount, and edit grub/menu.lst manually
[04:36] <tyler_>          is opengl dependant on   DRI?
[04:36] <chantra> erUSUL: crw-rw---- 1 root root 10, 200 2006-09-27 09:52 /dev/net/tun
[04:36] <kantlivelon2> hey all
[04:37] <chantra> sounds good
[04:37] <seshomaru123> i have a nautilus problem - it disppaered
[04:37] <kantlivelon2> anyone know why wpa isnt working?
[04:37] <runa> hey :) what's the edgy status? is it yet frozen? should I try it?
[04:37] <seshomaru123> but is as-px it appears as "nautilus- no desktop" , how can i bring it back?
[04:37] <stu_> Beawolfe: whats the output of pwd
[04:37] <runa> dapper is kinda old for my mobo (a f*cking via that needs 2.6.17 for dma HD access)
[04:37] <ivaldi> darkanyel: System > Preferences > Font. The first 3 should be Sans Regular, size 10, the window title font should be Sans Bold, size 10, and the last one should be Monospace Regular, size 10
[04:37] <Beawolfe> stu_ pwd?
[04:37] <LjL> !schedule
[04:37] <Dr_willis> Fracture,  only things in the ### Begin and ##end stuff gets scanned and updated.. if you put a boot item stanza befor or after those - it wont get touched
[04:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:37] <kantlivelon2> anyone know why wpa fails to work?
[04:38] <stu_> Beawolfe: yes, type pwd
[04:38] <erUSUL> chantra: i do not know how to configure tun devices go here http://bochs.sourceforge.net/doc/docbook/user/config-tuntap.html
[04:38] <seshomaru123> any of the nautilus appalications donmt work
[04:38] <chantra> erUSUL: cheers, gonna check
[04:38] <LjL> runa: look above. apparently it's not entirely frozen yet. universe is not, and the kernel neither
[04:38] <Beawolfe> stu_ home/dale
[04:39] <runa> LjL: tnx.
[04:39] <seshomaru123> ps ax
[04:39] <stu_> Beawolfe: cd ~/pan/pan ?
[04:39] <LjL> cd ~/mayday/mayday
[04:39] <Fracture> Dr_willis: running update-grub generates an incorrect root= line
[04:39] <Arrick> is there a way to put yahoo messenger on a ubuntu breezy box?
[04:40] <darkanyel> ivaldi,thanks
[04:40] <Fracture> Dr_willis: could it be related to me sharing the same boot partition between a dapper and a edgy install ?
[04:40] <Dr_willis> Fracture,   ive had that issue befor  - whith my mixed sata/ide system.
[04:40] <Dr_willis> Fracture,  thats possible.
[04:40] <Beawolfe> stu_ keeps saying no such file or directory
[04:41] <frogzoo> Fracture: so fix /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:41] <MadRabbit> !build-essential
[04:41] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:41] <Fracture> Dr_willis: ok, I think I will just create a separate boot partition for edgy, the dapper one was running low in space anyway
[04:41] <dalfz> how can i prevent gok from starting up when i log in?
[04:41] <frogzoo> Fracture: also maybe /boot/grub/device.map
[04:41] <Dr_willis> Fracture,  run edgy in a vmware session :)
[04:41] <MadRabbit> !lamp
[04:41] <ubotu> offically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)
[04:42] <Luke> does anyone know if Seveas' repo works with sparc64 arch as well?
[04:42] <ivaldi> darkanyel: you're welcome. :)
[04:42] <Fracture> Dr_willis: yeah, I had tried that initially, but I wanted feel the performance improvements :)
[04:42] <Wanderer> hmm, anyone know how to get flash to use arts or something so that i don't have to kill all sound when playing youtube/google videos?
[04:42] <LjL> Luke: sparc64? is that even an Ubuntu architecture?
[04:42] <pty> dalfz: is it in system->preferences->sessions under the startup programs tab ?
[04:42] <Luke> LjL: yea
[04:43] <kromel> hello, what is the best way for me to put my audio back at default? I'm having issues with Wine and other applications.  I think my sound files are screwed.
[04:43] <dalfz> pty, can't see it there
[04:43] <Dr_willis> Fracture,  i tested out edgy a few days agoo.. then did a clean reinstall of dapper. :P
[04:44] <Hooveyy> Edgy is the own :p
[04:44] <pty> dalfz: afraid i'm not sure then
[04:44] <LjL> Luke: seveas's site says following archs are supported:  i386  powerpc  amd64
[04:44] <freezey_> !ubotu xgl
[04:44] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:45] <Fracture> Dr_willis: why ?
[04:45] <Fracture> Dr_willis: I mean, why dapper ?
[04:45] <sonium> !ubotu girls
[04:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about girls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:46] <Dr_willis> Fracture,  vmware ddent work..  browser was crashing..  the fancy gfx dident work.. so :) over all it was a bust
[04:46] <LjL> don't play with the bot pls
[04:46] <rodneyk> do you all know of any editing programs that will allow you to look at a config file and easily filter out each line that begins with #
[04:46] <Mogz> i've built my own kernel for reiser4 support. it works fine, except that when I install the kernel package it complains about "Searching for splash... no splash found"
[04:46] <Mogz> and... well, there's no splash
[04:46] <Fracture> Dr_willis: why didn't you go with edgy ?
[04:46] <Mogz> just black for a really long time :)
[04:46] <MadRabbit> !packages
[04:46] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[04:46] <Dr_willis> Fracture,  edgy wasent working good. so i reinstalled dapper.
[04:47] <Fracture> Dr_willis: fair enough
[04:47] <sonium> does anyone run here BOINC?
[04:47] <kuja> Hi, I'm using the Dapper LiveCD using my 512MB as a persistent storage device. Space tends to get used up quickly, and I was wondering if there was a way of getting a list of files and directories directly on my pen drive and not the CD.
[04:47] <rodneyk> who can i bribe to add postfix 2.3.* to dapper sources
[04:47] <LjL> sonium: no, i used to run seti -- well, i still do automatically every night, but i suppose it's not working anymore. haven't upgraded to boinc.
[04:48] <strav> hey there, can anyone tell me of a good fax application that can run on dapper using an intel 536ep fax modem? (which dosen't seems to be supported by hylafax)
[04:48] <LjL> kuja: uh, i'm not sure what you mean, but perhaps "find /dev/sda1", assuming your pen drive is called /dev/sda1?
[04:49] <LjL> kuja: err sorry, scratch that
[04:49] <krazykit> so i have a pdf made in abiword that i can't copy the text out of (in evince or foxit on windows). pdftohtml and pdftotext do not work, either.  is there any way to extract this text?
[04:49] <kuja> It'd be cool if I could mount the same device to 2 locations.
[04:49] <LjL> kuja: that would be "find /media/sda1"
[04:49] <kuja> Where on one side it's mounted as unionfs with usb + cd, and on the other side it'd be mounted as a usb alone
[04:50] <LjL> kuja: hm, i think you can... just mount it twice. don't know about unionfs, though
[04:50] <LjL> kuja: my /home partition mounts perfectly fine if i also mount it somewhere else
[04:51] <kantlivelon2> anyone know why wpa fails to work?
[04:51] <LjL> krazykit: i assume you mean aside from pen and paper? :P
[04:52] <krazykit> LjL: no, libgnomeprint is broken.  it doesn't make "correct" pdf files
[04:52] <LjL> krazykit: it's possible (though just a guess) that abiword doesn't export characters, but just vector graphics
[04:52] <LjL> krazykit: i see
[04:52] <krazykit> i'm gonna set up gnome-cups
[04:52] <neuron>  my keyboard doesnt work anymore when i try to run ubuntu in normal mode, but it does in recovery mode, i can even startx and it works, i just saw something in my Xlog: "(WW) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap"
[04:53] <dalfz> anyone how can i prevent gok from starting up when i log in? can't see it in sessions-startup
[04:53] <ProN00b> gnomebaker doesn't work for me, but graveman does (gnomebaker gives me partitially corrupt disks), anyone got any idea why ?
[04:53] <LjL> krazykit: perhaps, as a last resort, you could try to OCR the file?
[04:54] <krazykit> LjL: are there any good OCR programs for linux?
[04:54] <Daniel-_> I installed Dapper Server amd64 with Swedish language and swedish keymap, but when booted into the system the  keys are "delayed" in the way they show up one keystroke after they're pressed. (For example, I press  (nothing on screen)m press  ( on screen), space ( on screen)
[04:54] <Daniel-_> any ideas what I should check into?
[04:54] <dbzdeath> hi i get a few of these messages when running fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage and i'm not sure why could someone please help me? dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: diversions involved - output may be incorrect
[04:54] <dbzdeath>  diversion by nvidia-glx from: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1
[04:54] <LjL> krazykit: "good", i doubt it :\  i think gocr (also known as jocr, but the package name in Ubuntu is gocr i think) is the best (among the free ones, at least)
[04:56] <LjL> krazykit: i see there's also a gocr-gtk ui for it. though, first, you'd have to convert the PDF to a (big enough for OCR to work) bitmap... not sure which program you'd use for that
[04:56] <frogzoo> Wanderer: try here: http://www.macewan.org/2006/06/01/howto-firefox-flash-video-sound-on-ubuntu-linux-dapper/
[04:56] <LjL> krazykit: perhaps pdftoppm, if it can parse the file
[04:56] <LjL> krazykit: (which is part of the netpbm suite)
[04:56] <krazykit> LjL: i have the pdf tools ;-)
[04:59] <johan> i cant use cups web interface with ubuntu my root passwd (as set with passwd) is denied
[04:59] <ivaldi> Daniel-_: is this happening when connecting to the server through ssh or something similar? by the way, you might want to try #ubuntu-se
[04:59] <anilomkar> I am having RTL8139D ethernet card but the Ubuntu is not detecting that card what to do?
[05:00] <Dr_willis> johan,  its disabled/crippled by default - it 'looks' like it works  - but it dont..
[05:00] <johan> so i can i use it
[05:00] <Daniel-_> ivaldi: Yes, when connecting with ssh
[05:01] <ivaldi> Daniel-_: from a windows box?
[05:01] <johan> how can i have admin with cups
[05:01] <Luke> does anyone know how to get java sdk for sparc64?
[05:01] <morrye> Can ubuntu read NTFS hard drives?
[05:01] <Daniel-_> ivaldi: Yes, with putty
[05:01] <LjL> !tell morrye about ntfs
[05:01] <Dr_willis> johan, http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2076  mentions how to renable it -
[05:01] <Elmister> ciao
[05:01] <johan> thanks
[05:01] <Dr_willis> johan,  and the ubuntu wiki/forums discuss it as well
[05:01] <Daniel-_> ivaldi: but with same settings as other boxes which works fins
[05:02] <Daniel-_> fine
[05:02] <morrye> LjL: I'm not on ubuntu, just wondering
[05:02] <krazykit> LjL: gocr is crummy :-(... it's only one page, i can retype it
[05:02] <krazykit> thanks anyway
[05:02] <LjL> morrye: well, the answer is yes
[05:02] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[05:02] <LjL> morrye: it cannot reliably write to them, though
[05:02] <ivaldi> Daniel-_: change the character encoding to UTF-8 in the putty settings. it should work then :)
[05:02] <Daniel-_> ivaldi: Aha.. Ill check
[05:02] <ivaldi> do that :)
[05:02] <anilomkar> Why RTL8139D is not working in Ubuntu please help me
[05:02] <LjL> krazykit: well, unfortunately a really good free OCR package is still missing
[05:02] <dEuS> www.ubuntu-gaming.de
[05:03] <nexsan> howdy
[05:03] <morrye> LjL: Is it possible to convert them to a linux format without any data loss?
[05:03] <nexsan> i'm back with the same problm as yesterday
[05:03] <LjL> morrye: not really.
[05:03] <LjL> morrye: of course you can copy the files to an ext3 partitions, but that's all i think.
[05:04] <morrye> LjL: I have a media Hard drive which contains films and music. Its not a partition
[05:04] <Daniel-_> ivaldi: Yes, it works.. thanks alot =)
[05:04] <Arrick> is there a way to put yahoo messenger on a ubuntu breezy box? please respond, even if its to tell me no
[05:04] <ivaldi> morrye: you could convert the partition to FAT32, that should be safe to use with linux
[05:04] <ivaldi> Daniel-_: varsgod :)
[05:04] <krazykit> morrye: it has partitions.  you can't change ntfs to anything else without losing all the data
[05:04] <morrye> ivaldi: But would there be data loss?
[05:05] <bones> hello
[05:05] <bones> anyone know why i can kill the xserver?
[05:05] <bones> cant
[05:05] <ivaldi> morrye: no there shouldn't be. I did this when I started using ubuntu, and dual-booted
[05:05] <LjL> morrye: well, perhaps there's some way around it, but i don't know of any. you should copy the stuff somewhere else, reformat as ext3 (or FAT32, if you need windows to read that too) and copy everything back.
[05:05] <thoreauputic> bones: what command are you using to kill the X server ?
[05:06] <Diego> Bah, I downloaded the ISO from the torrent, burned it with Nero, but it doesn't recognize the CD on boot-up.
[05:06] <thoreauputic> bones: and why ? :)
[05:06] <LjL> ivaldi: oh, you can convert NTFS to FAT32? i though Windows allowed only the opposite, FAT32 to NTFS
[05:06] <morrye> LjL: there is alot of data, is it possible to transfer the data from NTFS partition to the one linux is installed on?
[05:06] <Dr_willis> Diego,  how did you burn it with nero? check the cd.. whats files are on the cd...
[05:06] <bones> thoreauputic: killall -9 Xorg / /etc/init.d/gdm stop killall -9 gdmgreeter
[05:06] <thoreauputic> Diego: you have to burn it as an image
[05:06] <Arrick> Diego, did you burn a bootable cd? you have to specify in nero to do so
[05:06] <Dr_willis> Diego,  or use the  free 'burn at once' software
[05:06] <LjL> morrye: if there's enough space on the linux partition, yup
[05:06] <bones> thoreauputic: because im trying to update to the latest video driver...this nvidia driver is old
[05:06] <morrye> thats fine then, thanks!
[05:06] <thoreauputic> bones: umm - just  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop  should do it
[05:07] <bones> thoreauputic: ya it doesnt do it
[05:07] <Diego> Hm. I'll try that.
[05:07] <ivaldi> LjL: I seem to remember doing that in Partition Magic. I could be wrong though, since it was years ago :)
[05:07] <thoreauputic> bones: are you running gnome/GDM ?
[05:07] <bones> thoreauputic: oh it did work
[05:07] <bones> thanks
[05:07] <thoreauputic> bones: hmm
[05:07] <thoreauputic> bones: so waht did you forget before ? *grin*
[05:08] <thoreauputic> *what
[05:08] <bones> thoreauputic: forget?
[05:08] <KenSentMe> How can i see how much space is left in a folder in console?
[05:08] <thoreauputic> bones: why do you think it "didn't work" before ?
[05:09] <bones> thoreauputic: not sure
[05:09] <thoreauputic> KenSentMe: wrong question - do you mean a partition?
[05:09] <KenSentMe> thoreauputic: yeah
[05:09] <ivaldi> KenSentMe: df -h <folder>
[05:10] <KenSentMe> ivaldi: ok, ty
[05:10] <ivaldi> you're welcome
[05:10] <physicsnick> anyone have a link to a guide on upgrading dapper to edgy?
[05:11] <thoreauputic> direcories don't have fixed sizes - only volumes/partitions
[05:11] <Dr_willis> !update
[05:11] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:11] <thoreauputic> *directories
[05:11] <Dr_willis> physicsnick,  i advise waiting for edgy to come out.
[05:11] <ivaldi> physicsnick: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=227052
[05:12] <YoussefAssad> bloody xgl packages b0rked...
[05:12] <ivaldi> physicsnick: bear in mind that edgy is still experimental software. it could, and probably would, go wrong
[05:12] <physicsnick> that's fine, i don't mind formatting again
[05:12] <KenSentMe> thoreauputic: i know, but i don't want to think about what /dev/hd? i'm on when i want to see how much i can put in this folder, that's why i asked it this way
[05:13] <we2by> !mp3
[05:13] <Laney> np: Hooverphonic - Ginger
[05:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:13] <whurley> Any one out there have experience installing Ubuntu Server on dual opterons?
[05:13] <thoreauputic> KenSentMe: OK that will work as long as it's a mount point like a separate /home etc
[05:13] <we2by> !flash
[05:13] <frogzoo> KenSentMe: df .
[05:13] <KenSentMe> thoreauputic: i use seperate partitions
[05:14] <thoreauputic> KenSentMe: just  df -h by itself shows all of them
[05:14] <KenSentMe> thoreauputic, frogzoo: thanx for ur help
[05:14] <thoreauputic> :)
[05:15] <whurley> I have an issue where when installing Ubuntu server, all versions of boot options freeze at "io cfg registered" and the installation stops. Has anyone seen this
[05:15] <frogzoo> whurley: dapper ?
[05:16] <whurley> yes, 606.1
[05:16] <whurley> (sorry new to Ubuntu)
[05:16] <frogzoo> !fixinstall > whurley
[05:17] <aliendream23> is there a program that will shrink dvd files to fit on a 4.7 gig disk in ubuntu (like dvd shrink for windows)?
[05:17] <kuja> How do I ignore dpkg "not configured, leaving unconfigured" messages each time apt is invoked?
[05:18] <kuja> I get the picture that sun-java5-bin sucks and can't find libjava.so, but how do I make it stop complaining?
[05:18] <whurley> frogzoo: thanks, I'll go over that, but we've tried everything we found in the forums etc (apci=off, all boot options, etc.) and it still hangs. Give me a few minutes to read over all this and I'll try anything we missed. thanks again :)
[05:18] <IRC> hello, i have a problem.. normally i get sound in movies etc. but not from youtube, any ideas?
[05:18] <thoreauputic> kuja:  try   sudo apt-get -f install  ( without arguments )
[05:18] <scrp> whats the deal with Ubuntu/Linux support with videos............
[05:19] <thoreauputic> !video
[05:19] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[05:19] <scrp> and why the hell does firefox always open totem to play videos
[05:19] <kuja> thoreauputic: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/3Aa9RQ39.html
[05:19] <johan> how can i change the resolution in login window
[05:19] <thoreauputic> scrp: umm - because it's the default?
[05:19] <czer323> !easyubuntu
[05:19] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[05:20] <scrp> thoreauputic: but totem is like, a crap player? and cant even play 80% of videos by default
[05:20] <scrp> thoreauputic: how can i force firefox to use for example, vlc
[05:20] <czer323> scrp> Probably because you haven't installed the media codecs.
[05:20] <johan> the resolution for my login window is fuzzy so i'd like to change the resolution but i dunno where is the conf file for the login window
[05:20] <scrp> czer323: actually i think i have
[05:21] <thoreauputic> scrp: you haven't read ubotu's factoid , have you?
[05:21] <thoreauputic> !video > scrp
[05:21] <scrp> thoreauputic: i have, most of it
[05:21] <ivaldi> scrp: try installing mozilla-plugin-vlc
[05:21] <scrp> ivaldi: firefox still uses totem
[05:21] <thoreauputic> !restricted > scrp
[05:22] <physicsnick> is anyone here running edgy?
[05:22] <LjL> !edgy
[05:22] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:22] <ivaldi> scrp: try removing totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin then
[05:22] <A[D] minS> !glx
[05:22] <thoreauputic> scrp: you can uninstall the totem plugin for FF if you wish
[05:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:22] <frogzoo> PyroMithrandir: u'd do better @ #ubuntu+1
[05:22] <BrianG> !schedule
[05:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:22] <scrp> ivaldi: i tried that aswell lol
[05:22] <czer323> scrp> I usually use Easyubuntu to install all the codecs and embeded media player. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html
[05:22] <A[D] minS> !xgl
[05:22] <scrp> can anyone of you guys play http://veftivi.visir.is/veftivi/main.do?treeId=10016&progId=23385
[05:22] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:22] <IRC> also...how does one get quicktime-based clips in firefox running?
[05:23] <ivaldi> scrp: I use mplayer for playing vids in firefox. perhaps you could try that?
[05:23] <thoreauputic> guys, please read the restricted formats wiki page and follow it
[05:23] <thoreauputic> !restricted
[05:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:23] <scrp> ivaldi: wish i could
[05:24] <scrp> ivaldi: how would i tell firefox to use mplayer?
[05:24] <kromel> how do I reinstall alsa? <-- noob
[05:24] <ivaldi> scrp: I just install mozilla-mplayer
[05:24] <thoreauputic> !moailla-mplayer
[05:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moailla-mplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:24] <thoreauputic> !mozilla-mplayer
[05:24] <scrp> ivaldi: i have that already
[05:24] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.17-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 421 kB, installed size 1500 kB
[05:24] <ivaldi> and it STILL uses totem?
[05:24] <scrp> ivaldi: i've got mplayer and vlc, still uses totem
[05:24] <scrp> i even tried removing totem
[05:24] <neuron> hey again
[05:25] <scrp> i hate totem
[05:25] <ivaldi> scrp: have you restarted firefox in-between these attempts?
[05:25] <scrp> curse the devs for using totem
[05:25] <Fracture> anyone here use dbmail ?
[05:25] <scrp> ivaldi: ofcourse
[05:25] <thoreauputic> scrp: sounds like you've done something "creative" to your install
[05:25] <neuron> i just discovered that my keybord stopped working just after kdm started, this doesnt happen in recovery mode tho
[05:25] <scrp> thoreauputic: can you watch the above url i gave?
[05:25] <ivaldi> scrp: I can't see that video you linked to either
[05:25] <czer323> scrp> Or, you could try Automatix.  I usually use Easyubuntu first, and then go back with Automatix and get the things that Easy Ubuntu doesn't have.
[05:26] <neuron> if i spam numlock, the light wont come off/on after kdm starts
[05:26] <dampening> hell
[05:26] <dampening> hello
[05:26] <scrp> ivaldi: ....its easy to watch in windows
[05:26] <thoreauputic> czer323: please don't recommend those scripts
[05:26] <scrp> why, WHY are they making it so difficult to watch videos
[05:26] <czer323> Scripts like easyubuntu?  It's in the ubotu
[05:26] <scrp> why not just INSTALL the multimedia packages
[05:26] <thoreauputic> scrp: patent isues
[05:26] <thoreauputic> *issues
[05:26] <czer323> !easyubuntu
[05:26] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[05:27] <scrp> patent?
[05:27] <thoreauputic> scrp: Ubuntu is Free software - and a lot of those things are not legal to include
[05:27] <ivaldi> ubuntu takes pride in being completely open source, which is very good
[05:27] <scrp> they arent doing anything illegal by having ubuntu with codecs and media players
[05:27] <ivaldi> scrp: yes they do. the codecs are proprietary.
[05:27] <lando> anyone know of portrait software for linux. my lcd can swivel and i was hoping to be able to use that feature
[05:27] <thoreauputic> scrp: I suggest you need to read up on patents and free software :)
[05:28] <sproingie> patents have nothing to do with it, it's licensing
[05:28] <thoreauputic> sproingie: it's both actually
[05:28] <scrp> how is it illegal for them to install codecs on ubuntu by default but not illegal for me
[05:28] <LjL> sproingie: for some formats like mp3, it's patents
[05:28] <scrp> doesnt make sence
[05:28] <sproingie> the win32codecs pretty much openly violate MS's EULA that restructs them to windows
[05:28] <scrp> MP3 ISNT ILLEGAL
[05:28] <ivaldi> scrp: it could be illegal depending on which country you live in.
[05:28] <thoreauputic> scrp: you are misinformed, and shouting won't help
[05:28] <LjL> scrp: mp3 is patented. you can't encode without a patent, and possibly not even decode.
[05:28] <LjL> scrp: and don't shout.
[05:29] <ivaldi> scrp: microsoft pays licensing fees in order to have mp3 support included in windows.
[05:29] <sproingie> scrp: redhat doesn't include mp3 out of the box either
[05:29] <richee> I have problems with the gnome power manager not showing the proper icon..
[05:29] <LjL> scrp: without a
[05:29] <LjL> scrp: without a *fee* on the patent i meant
[05:29] <kesara> How can I get a 686 kernel with smp support without manually configuring?
[05:29] <kesara> Actually what is the name of the pkg that I need to install?
[05:29] <thoreauputic> kesara: linux-686
[05:29] <LjL> kesara: linux-686-smp?
[05:29] <richee> For eg. when I have a full charged battery and I restart gnome and remove the power cord it still shows the charging icon
[05:29] <scrp> uhm, however its not illegal for me to make backup of my cds
[05:29] <thoreauputic> kesara: smp by default
[05:29] <scrp> and i can make backups in mp3 format
[05:29] <richee> is there any fix for this ?
[05:29] <LjL> scrp: uh, and what does that have to do with mp3?
[05:30] <scrp> there is no law that can ban you to have backups
[05:30] <frogzoo> kesara: stock 686 is SMP enabled
[05:30] <thoreauputic> scrp: this is off-topic
[05:30] <richee> can anyone help ?
[05:30] <LjL> scrp: no, unless you have been granted a licence on the mp3 encoding patent, you can't.
[05:30] <ivaldi> exactly
[05:30] <whurley> frogzoo: all of those options we're tried but thanks for the pointer
[05:30] <czer323> scrp> the encoder that ENCODES mp3s was developed by a compnay that requires you to have paid licensing fees to use that technology.
[05:30] <thoreauputic> please discuss legal issues and codecs etc in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:30] <frogzoo> whurley: verified the install CD ?
[05:30] <scrp> ah so thats what patent means
[05:31] <sproingie> scrp: there's a difference beween use and distribution.  frauenhofer AG has actually sued makers of free codecs
[05:31] <LjL> scrp: well, as you've been told, perhaps you should read to know what things mean, before stating they're false.
[05:31] <whurley> frogzoo: yes, and pulled 3 copies from 3 iff servers last night to make sure :)
[05:31] <Malachi> Is there a way I can share files with  a Windows computer using an ad hoc network?
[05:31] <sando> ogg is a better encoder anyhow my 2 c
[05:31] <sproingie> scrp: ubuntu and redhat don't feel like getting dragged into court
[05:31] <frogzoo> !samba > Malachi
[05:31] <scrp> i see, lets move this discussion to offtopic :
[05:32] <frogzoo> whurley: a bios update's worth a shot
[05:32] <kesara> thx for the help... linux-686-smp is what I was looking for...
[05:32] <kuja> Mind the sort of off-topic question... but installing the Java runtime is a horrendous pain for me on Ubuntu, and I was wondering what are some good up-to-date alternatives that pose to be greater than JRE 1.5?
[05:32] <kuja> gcj seems to show itself as 1.4.x
[05:32] <sproingie> kuja: JRE 1.6?
[05:32] <thoreauputic> !java
[05:32] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:32] <Malachi> frogzoo: I've got the sharing from Ubuntu part, I just can't connect to an ad hoc network.
[05:32] <whurley> frogzoo: checking into that now but it's a new cpu so I'm not sure what options will be available :)
[05:32] <frogzoo> kuja: jre installs out of the repos totally hands free
[05:32] <kuja> thoreauputic: That precise thing is driving me nuts.
[05:33] <kuja> It keeps failing saying it can't find libjava.so
[05:33] <thoreauputic> kuja: amd 64 ?
[05:33] <kuja> No
[05:33] <sproingie> if you want the jdk, i recommend just installing the damn thing by hand
[05:33] <thoreauputic> hmm
[05:33] <kuja> Could it be a unionfs thing? I'm using Dapper LiveCD and my USB pen drive as a pstore device
[05:33] <sproingie> if hand installing the jdk is too complex, java's probably not for you
[05:33] <kuja> sproingie: Or maybe if you were in my shoes you would've committed suicide.
[05:33] <kuja> It simply *does not work* as tutored in the forums or Ubuntu wiki
[05:34] <richee> !gpm
[05:34] <ubotu> gpm: General Purpose Mouse Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19.6-21ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 201 kB, installed size 496 kB
[05:34] <thoreauputic> kuja: I never tried installing java on the live CD - s it even possible?
[05:34] <sproingie> kuja: no doubt, but i've had zero problems when i just did it by hand.  plugin and all.
[05:34] <kuja> thoreauputic: Well, my USB pen drive is the storage device used by the LiveCD, so it's entirely possible to install whatever as long as there's enough space.
[05:34] <kuja> I'm beginning to feel this might be some sort of unionfs thing though
[05:34] <frogzoo> kuja: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[05:34] <sproingie> kuja: the tricky thing about the plugin is you have to make it a symlink, not copy it
[05:35] <kuja> frogzoo: That precise thing (and a manual install) fails with a "cannot find libjava.so"
[05:35] <frogzoo> kuja: dapper ?
[05:35] <kuja> Yes
[05:36] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guys. the terminal aint starting. what can be the problem
[05:36] <gerhard> hey guys
[05:36] <gerhard> how do I mount mdf/mds?
[05:37] <Rambo3> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: messed up $path
[05:37] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> lol. it just started. tahnks anywyas
[05:37] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> :D
[05:37] <Rambo3> it can be alot of things , can you create a shortcut on desktop and point it to gnome-terminal
[05:37] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> no its ok. it was not responding. btw, do programs hang in linux even?
[05:38] <fulat2k> is there a way to make gnome/gtk apps look nicer in kubuntu?
[05:38] <kuja> If anyone has the Dapper LiveCD with a USB device they could use as their persistent storage device to test and confirm this painful experience, please let me know.
[05:38] <ivaldi> gerhard: try installing mdf2iso and use that to convert it to an iso image
[05:38] <gerhard> k thx
[05:38] <Rambo3> PunjabiFLOYDIAN:  when some resources take to much  cpu time like networking busy devices and so on
[05:39] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok. i thought tat linux was error free. how can i configure the linux firewall?
[05:39] <freezey_> X_GLZRender fail during gdm startup?
[05:39] <Rambo3> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: learn to use ubotu you ask too much smal questions
[05:39] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Rambo3: lol. ok.
[05:39] <thoreauputic> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: no software is "error free" :)
[05:39] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> !firewall
[05:39] <freezey_> has anyone ever seen that
[05:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[05:39] <Subhuman> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, use firestarter.
[05:40] <gerhard> do I mdf2iso the mds or mds??
[05:40] <freezey_> has anyone have saw X_GLZRender fail during gdm startup?
[05:40] <gerhard> ah mdf
[05:40] <richee> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: Baale baale
[05:40] <james296> after getting Acrobat Reader, how can I make firefox use the default way of viewing pdf files which was opening the document reader or whatever it was called?
[05:40] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> richee: LOLS. where are  you from richee?
[05:40] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Ashish
[05:40] <xoxi> ola
[05:41] <Rambo3> about:config
[05:41] <kuja> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-226161.html -- Someone seems to already have confirmed this. Reading this entry, does anyone happen to have a solution?
[05:41] <psylocybe> if i get a error messenge like "Cannot open file.rar" the file is unviable?
[05:41] <richee> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: India
[05:41] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> I can see that.
[05:41] <freezey_> difference between gksudo and sudo?
[05:41] <ivaldi> james296: try downloading a pdf file, and change the "open with" setting to Acrobat Reader.
[05:42] <tyk0s_> how do i download winehq? im totally new in linux
[05:42] <ivaldi> james296: then firefox will honor that setting
[05:42] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> sudo apt-get wine
[05:43] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Ashish@Bangalore
[05:43] <segfault_> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, sudo apt-get install wine
[05:43] <james296> but I removed Acrobat reader after that because I dont want to use that, it was automatically installed, even though I unchecked its box in Automatix...
[05:43] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> yeah! sorry :D
[05:43] <tyk0s_> or how do i install in linux? dont know anything >_<
[05:43] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> just use the command: sudo apt-get install wine
[05:43] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> then after the package is downloaded run the command wine
[05:43] <james296> and now I realized the darn Add/Remove Programs application is gone!
[05:43] <frogzoo> james296: for automatix support -> #automatix
[05:43] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> the configuration will be complete
[05:43] <james296> WTF
[05:43] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> after that, run as this (exe name test), command: wine test.exe
[05:44] <czer323> !wine
[05:44] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:44] <tyk0s_> in commando line?
[05:44] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> yup
[05:44] <ivaldi> james296: oh sorry, misread your question. download the pdf file and set it to "document viewer" instead
[05:44] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> here is the sequence:
[05:44] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> sudo apt-get install wine
[05:44] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> wine
[05:44] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> wine <EXE NAME>
[05:44] <Rambo3> tyk0s_: wineHq is for wine , use synaptic to install programs and ask ubotu about repos
[05:45] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> between, guys I couldnt run Fireworks 8 on wine"? any suggestions?
[05:45] <james296> well thats already set but when I want to just OPEn the PDF file within firefox it told me that Adobe Reader is not available and cannot let me view it
[05:45] <tyk0s_> it cant find it, it says
[05:45] <Rambo3> repos couse i cant spell the whole word
[05:45] <Rambo3> !repos
[05:45] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:45] <james296> meanwhile I was able to open the file using Document Viewer as default...
[05:45] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> see this > tyk0s_
[05:45] <tyk0s_> yeah
[05:46] <kuja> How do I check my glibc version?
[05:46] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> !glibc
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glibc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <james296> so, any help?
[05:46] <ivaldi> james296: try pressing the "add" button in the "open with" settings. then fill in "evince" as a custom command
[05:46] <kuja> !libc
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <morrye> How do I open NTFS partition?
[05:47] <Rambo3> physicly ?
[05:47] <azzgor> hello
[05:47] <tyk0s_> on winehq's homepage it says something about drapper and breezy
[05:47] <segfault_> kuja, dpkg -l | grep libc6
[05:47] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> morrye: u need to mount it first
[05:47] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> !DiskMounter
[05:47] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:47] <azzgor> i seem to have a problem, keyboard doesnt work after kdm starts, but it works in recovery mode, dont realy know why this happens
[05:47] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> see this
[05:47] <james296> still doing the same thing
[05:48] <kuja> segfault_: Thanks
[05:48] <james296> its a link Im clicking on to a PDF
[05:48] <Rambo3> tyk0s_: they are fresh packages but wine servers are slow . you need to enable universe and mutliverse in synaptic
[05:48] <morrye> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: How do I mount it without loosing any data? Its not a partition its a whole hard drive.
[05:48] <tyk0s_> hmm okey..
[05:48] <segfault_> tyk0s_, iirc wine is in universe or multiverse u must enable them
[05:48] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> u dont lose data while mounting. its safe. mount means u give linux access to the partiton. only the root can modify it, so u r safe
[05:48] <morrye> How do I mount it?
[05:49] <Rambo3> morrye: then partition is a whole drive
[05:49] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> just use the diskmounter utitily, it will automount it
[05:49] <aussieman> i have just come over to ubunto from caos - im gettign used to apt again, what is this error meant to emean?
[05:49] <aussieman> E: Type '' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:49] <kuja> Bah!
[05:49] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> !diskmounter
[05:49] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:49] <kuja> Officially confirmed. This is not a Ubuntu problem or a Java problem. It's a UnionFS problem.
[05:49] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[05:49] <morrye> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: Where do I get the disk mounter?
[05:49] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> see this link.
[05:49] <morrye> okay thanks
[05:49] <Jack_Sparrow> azzgor: waht did you install last, what were you doing before you shut down the pc last night?  Did you make the mistake or running Automatix
[05:49] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> mounting is safe. absolutely.
[05:49] <tyk0s_> now it downloading it thx :P
[05:49] <james296> ok I fixed it lol
[05:50] <james296> now, how can I get Add-Remove programs back into the Applications menu?
[05:50] <tyk0s_> how do i find my other hard drive? got a D: but cant mount it
[05:51] <Jack_Sparrow> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[05:51] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[05:51] <cyzie>  Our hearts and prayers go out to lilo and his family, we will miss you old friend   // what happeened?
[05:51] <azzgor> Jack_Sparrow: not that i remember of, maybe just updated some packages with adept, cant realy remember wich
[05:51] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guys try learning the ubotu
[05:51] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> if you want to ask something, jsut add ! before the word
[05:51] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> this way the channel is spammed
[05:51] <coincoin169> can somebody help me with iptables ?
[05:51] <Rambo3> or use /msg ubotu and stop cloging the channel
[05:51] <aussieman> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, how does one get recognised here?
[05:52] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> lol. what does that mean?
[05:52] <segfault_> coincoin169, ask someone here may know
[05:52] <aussieman> well i ask a question ... get ignored ... sorry but at elats someone could say hello welcome to unbunto
[05:52] <aussieman> E: Type '' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:52] <aussieman> what does that mean?
[05:52] <frogzoo> coincoin169: just say what you're trying to do & someone might be able to help
[05:52] <aussieman> i did frogzoo
[05:53] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> aussieman: ask your question again. maybe i can help
[05:53] <Jack_Sparrow> aussieman: It means you need to post your sources list to the pastebin so people can look at the problem
[05:53] <aussieman> i have just come over to ubunto from caos - im gettign used to apt again, what is this error meant to emean?
[05:53] <aussieman> E: Type '' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:53] <cyzie>  Our hearts and prayers go out to lilo and his family, we will miss you old friend   // what happeened?
[05:53] <Rambo3> !register > aussieman
[05:53] <sproingie> aussieman: if no one answers your question, no one knows or has time.  it's irc etiquitte to not spam the channel with useless "dunno" or welcomes
[05:53] <james296> so can someone help me out here I really want that back
[05:53] <manmadha> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, u r new to irc?
[05:53] <we2by> can any one test jinxi.cinaq.net for me? can u open the page?
[05:53] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> LOL. why do you ask this? i m. but i can stick to the rules pretty easily.
[05:53] <kuja> Okay, if I mount my pen drive as ext3 it works perfectly.
[05:53] <segfault_> aussieman, means ur sources.list is not right
[05:54] <aussieman> sproingie, it is also etiquite to say hello welcome to ubuntu. or it is with other distros
[05:54] <aussieman> nice to see you here can we help
[05:54] <sproingie> !easysource
[05:54] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:54] <aussieman> thanks
[05:54] <aussieman> Uberpussy,
[05:54] <aussieman> ubotu,
[05:54] <Jack_Sparrow> aussieman: 911 people say hello to aussieman
[05:54] <manmadha> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, irc!
[05:54] <stu_> trying to get my ibm thinkpad buttons to work, it says insmod nvram - but I dont have the module - how do I get it ?
[05:54] <coincoin169> I entered that : iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -s 192.168.1.3 -j DNAT --to-destination 127.0.0.1
[05:54] <coincoin169> where 192.168.1.3 is my IP logically all packets from my computer should go to my loopback interface and so i should not be able to reach any site on the web but I can open google seems like the rule is ignored
[05:54] <deathz0r> hi, i have a laptop pc and i installed ubuntu on it, but the max reso is like 1024 x 768 i want it to rise it to 1280 x 1024 how can i do that on gnome?
[05:54] <manmadha> ha ha
[05:55] <Rambo3> !fixres > deathz0r
[05:55] <orangemango> modify the xorg file thing
[05:55] <deathz0r> thanks Rambo3
[05:55] <stu_> what do you mean by resive it to 1280 ??
[05:55] <stu_> er reseize
[05:55] <stu_> ffs
[05:56] <richee> manmadha: :P
[05:56] <deathz0r> use a bigger resolution
[05:56] <segfault_> coincoin169, want to stop outbound communication, it might be easier to drop all on chain OUTPUT
[05:56] <stu_> but you just said that your max res was 1024?
[05:56] <treedreamer> hello,guys . Does anyone know some GUI tools for FTP other than gFTP?
[05:56] <coincoin169> yes yes i know that
[05:56] <frogzoo> coincoin169: nat is for routed packets - not for packets originating from local machine, afaik
[05:56] <james296> so WHAT CAN I DO?
[05:56] <deathz0r> this is a wide screen display
[05:56] <sproingie> treedreamer: konqueror
[05:56] <manmadha> richee, nothing....
[05:57] <deathz0r> stu yes, the max res i can change on gnome panel
[05:57] <coincoin169> but it is to try this kind of rule i mean POSTROUTING and PREROUTING
[05:57] <james296> how do I add the Add/Remove Applications menu back into applications?
[05:57] <treedreamer> sproingie, I mean under GNOME
[05:57] <morrye> I have mounted a NTFS partition but it won't let me open it, does anyone know what could be wrong?
[05:57] <sproingie> treedreamer: i think nautilus might do an ok job with ftp
[05:57] <james296> its not available
[05:57] <aussieman> Jack_Sparrow, i thought it was linux for human beings not for smartarse geeks
[05:57] <frogzoo> coincoin169: 1/2 a sec
[05:57] <stu_> so your monior supports a higher res only you cant choose it?
[05:57] <deathz0r> so I guess I explained myself wrong.  I apologize.
[05:57] <Jack_Sparrow> aussieman: Watch your language.
[05:57] <deathz0r> stu_:  yes
[05:57] <aussieman> im sorry what language
[05:57] <treedreamer> sproingie,yes,but it is much slow to transfer files
[05:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !attitude > aussieman
[05:58] <manmadha> richee, u know how to get the opensource tshirts....?Not by ordering.....online?
[05:58] <sproingie> aussieman: sod off.  you come in here and demand politeness then carry on like that.  FOAD.
[05:58] <stu_> ah, ok, thought maybe you could trick it into sizing everything and sort of make it look like you're running 1280 but its actually 1024
[05:58] <trappist> !coc > aussieman
[05:58] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> come on guys. taht guy is rite
[05:58] <orangemango> you can run the startx setup, setupx?
[05:58] <richee> manmadha: where whic country ?
[05:58] <tyk0s_> well.. i did that in terminal.. but i can't open my disk
[05:58] <james296> well??
[05:58] <sproingie> now, i gotta go
[05:58] <manmadha> richee, India
[05:58] <sproingie> and before anyone else does it...
[05:58] <tyk0s_> its in "computer" but cant open it
[05:58] <sproingie> !coc > sproingie
[05:58] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Richee: cant u see the IP. like u r from Bangalore.
[05:58] <deathz0r> still everything looks wider than usual
[05:58] <james296> HELLO
[05:58] <richee> manmadha: go to open source meets :P
[05:58] <james296> ???
[05:58] <stu_> !coc > stu_
[05:59] <richee> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: yeah
[05:59] <Warbo> james296: hello
[05:59] <stu_> heh
[05:59] <lukas_> how do i get the errors of startxfce4 or startfluxbox (which are on the screen) to file? something like startxfce4 >> file isnt working. I cant find the errors in /var/log/Xorg.log.old and dmesg doesnt contain it, too.
[05:59] <manmadha> richee, can u give me the links?
[05:59] <Kurgan> Hiya. Is this a good place for newb questions? :)
[05:59] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Kurgan: sure! ask :D
[05:59] <james296> will someone answer my question?
[05:59] <Warbo> Kurgan: yes
[05:59] <richee> manmadha: what links ?
[05:59] <stu_> Kurgan: yes
[05:59] <ivaldi> james296: shouting won't help you. have you removed checked that it isn't in the menu editor?
[05:59] <Kurgan> Cool, thanks.
[05:59] <ivaldi> -removed
[05:59] <aussieman> no im serious that if you advertise this as a friendly distro new comers should be treated with a minumum of respect
[05:59] <Warbo> james296: I just joined. What is it?
[05:59] <treedreamer> Kurgan,don't ask to ask,just ask :)
[05:59] <stu_> Kurgan: its also a good place for not asking if you can ask
[05:59] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> LOL. aussieman is rite.
[05:59] <james296> no like I said, its not available at all in the menu editor
[05:59] <richee> manmadha: u need to physically go u :P
[05:59] <sproingie> aussieman is no longer my problem.  later all
[06:00] <ivaldi> james296: make sure that the package gnome-app-install is installed then
[06:00] <coincoin169> but how do i alter the packets from my computer ?
[06:00] <stu_> you cant demand respect
[06:00] <Jack_Sparrow> aussieman: We are one of the best channels around.  We are extremely busy and we do not say hello to everyone that shows up.
[06:00] <scrp> but asking to ask is only being polite :) no need to get all worked up over it
[06:00] <james296> and if it is?
[06:00] <aussieman> if it is just another im a better geek than you channel then it is no better to other channels full of little upstarts
[06:00] <manmadha> richee, I didnt get u......:-(
[06:00] <orangemango> just ask someone on the ubuntuforums.org
[06:00] <Kurgan> Ok, simply put, as of this morning I've just about had it with Windows. I want to install Ubuntu, but am not sure about how to go about it, or, more importantly, if my motherboard and video will work. Using nforce4 mb and a GeForce 6600 vid card.
[06:00] <richee> manmadha: I am far away u won't get me :)
[06:00] <james296> YES
[06:00] <james296> thank you!
[06:00] <james296> got it
[06:00] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Kurgan: perfect. linux supporst most hardware
[06:00] <ivaldi> :)
[06:01] <james296> for some reason I guess Automatix removed it on me...
[06:01] <sproingie> Kurgan: with an nvidia 6600, you're in good shape.
[06:01] <stu_> Kurgan: it will work, of course dont expect everything to work straight off, it will take some playing
[06:01] <sproingie> gah now i'm late
[06:01] <tyk0s_> can someone help me mount my disk? it's in computer but i cant open it
[06:01] <coincoin169> fds
[06:01] <stu_> wireless is always a bitch
[06:01] <ivaldi> james296: yeah, automatix can be pretty unforgiving at times. so I don't use it
[06:01] <manmadha> richee, if u post them to my address then i will pay the money...plzz
[06:01] <james296> not for me
[06:01] <mopflite> Kurgan: a good was to find out if ubuntu will work with your hardware is to download and burn the live cd iso, boot from it, and that should tell you whether your hardware will work with a full install or not
[06:01] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> !DiskMounter > tyk0_s
[06:01] <Jack_Sparrow> aussieman: Feel free to take this offtopic or post your sources.list like we asked earlier.  If you do not know how to use the pastebin or post your sources list just ask.
[06:01] <james296> it picked up my wireless like a charm :-)
[06:01] <tyk0s_> !diskmounter
[06:01] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:01] <mopflite> s/was/way
[06:01] <manmadha> richee, i tried soo hard to get the tshirtss.......but no use
[06:01] <CarlFK> stu_: not always - my wifi works out of the box
[06:01] <Kurgan> I've got the Ubuntu and Kubuntu CDs already. :)
[06:02] <james296> same here
[06:02] <manmadha> richee, i feel very proud to ware them....
[06:02] <mopflite> Kurgan: I love the live cds, they are a great way to tell whether hardware is supported
[06:02] <stu_> Kurgan: you might want to look at kubuntu to
[06:02] <Jack_Sparrow> james296: Automatix is one of the worst things you can do to Ubuntu
[06:02] <coincoin169> I found use OUTPUT instead of PREROUTING
[06:02] <scrp> i have to say, ever since i setup SMP kernel my console grahpics got even worse
[06:02] <we2by> !mp3
[06:02] <Laney> np: hooverphonic - every time we live together we die a bit more
[06:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:02] <manmadha> richee, sorry
[06:02] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Kurgan: linux rocks. but u will get sometime being used to it.
[06:02] <Kurgan> Does it matter that I'm running PCI-E video?
[06:02] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> like u wont be able to figure out how to access windows, play MP3s or WMVs
[06:03] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> but once u do. u wont use windows ever again
[06:03] <scrp> Jack_Sparrow: remember that blank screen in console problem i had? After i updated my kernel to use both cores of my cpu my graphics go fubar in bootup
[06:03] <stu_> linux hardware support out the box is better than windows
[06:03] <james296> well Automatix was the only way for me to get my Nvidia graphics card running great and getting the NVIDIA Settings app
[06:03] <scrp> stu_: errr careful those are big words
[06:03] <stu_> driver support is another issue
[06:03] <james296> because Easy Ubuntu doesnt work properly on this
[06:03] <scrp> james296: Automatix?
[06:03] <james296> and that is actually worse than Automatix
[06:03] <mathrick> hi, is there any easy way to see what packages exactly are backported?
[06:03] <mon^rch> woo-hoo running mIRC with wine from edgy
[06:03] <wilcox> stu_ O RLY?
[06:03] <g333k_work> is there any repo to get the latest release of xfce ?
[06:03] <mon^rch> :-D
[06:04] <frogzoo> coincoin169: do it like so 'iptables -A OUTPUT -s 192.168.1.3 -j DROP'
[06:04] <Kurgan> My "super secret plan" is to install Ubuntu (or Kubuntu) as my main OS, then install VMware Worksation, so I can still play XP-only games. :)
[06:04] <aussieman> Jack_Sparrow, i realise you are busy but i did not think that ubuntu people would be so rude, i could have been a newbie newbie with no experience at all and the first thing that happens is a you get told off for not being a real geek... lol .... i always wondered if ubuntu was more marketing than realityt and my first experience makes me think that again
[06:04] <lastnode> g333k_work, you'll probably want to look for a .deb
[06:04] <ivaldi> mon^rch: why would you do that? :D if you don't mind me asking
[06:04] <lastnode> g333k_work, or compile from cvs? or try edgy?
[06:04] <sjust1216> I tried to update to edgy but could not
[06:04] <g333k_work> lastnode, yeah
[06:04] <scrp> Kurgan: not going to work
[06:04] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> this guy aussieman really rocks
[06:04] <stu_> wilcox: yes, I will find a windows driver for every peice of hardware almost
[06:04] <g333k_work> lastnode, what is edgy?
[06:04] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> people pay ur respect to him :P
[06:04] <mon^rch> cos the interface is better than xchat
[06:04] <lastnode> !edgy
[06:04] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:04] <aussieman> i get the same erro with the advice i ahve been given
[06:04] <g333k_work> ohh
[06:04] <stu_> Kurgan: you cant play games in vmware
[06:04] <Warbo> stu_: Find one for a PPC Mac...
[06:04] <sexcopter8000m> i just realised my bro's laptop (running xp pro) for some reason is formatted to fat32. can the gparted livecd convert it to ntfs without damaging the contents of the drive?
[06:04] <wilcox> Stu_ ment sarcastic
[06:04] <wilcox> :)
[06:04] <tyk0s_> !fuse
[06:05] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:05] <orangemango> Why cant you just be ubuntu aussieman?
[06:05] <Jack_Sparrow> aussieman: This is a help channel not a chatter channel...  Try Ubuntu-offtopic if you choose to continue
[06:05] <g333k_work> lastnode, ubuntu 6.06 has the xfce4 beta 1, I want the beta 2
[06:05] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> see ya guys. happy hacking. :D
[06:05] <snedar> hi! how do I disable gnome-panel in gnome? I can remove it from the current session through the Sessions configuration window, but I don't want it to start at all.
[06:05] <stu_> Warbo: the almost in my statement allows me to disregard that request
[06:05] <lastnode> sexcopter8000m, you should be able to. but defrag first. and BACKUP.
[06:05] <lastnode> g333k_work, get 6.10, edgy
[06:05] <sexcopter8000m> lastnode, ok, thanks
[06:05] <aussieman> my question before you beacme hoiler than though was what does this error mean:
[06:05] <aussieman>  Type '' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.lis
[06:05] <Kurgan> That's the first I've heard about that. VMW is supposed to run anything that the hosted OS will.
[06:05] <coincoin169> yes frogzoo but now i'd like to alter the ip source of the packets I receive
[06:06] <lastnode> aussieman, malformed sources.list
[06:06] <aussieman> i have never seen it in 5 yrs of using linux
[06:06] <stu_> !xfce > stu_
[06:06] <Jack_Sparrow> tyk0s_: You mounted your ntfs and you still cant read from it?
[06:06] <g333k_work> lastnode, can I upgrade to edgy?
[06:06] <aussieman> thanks lastnode
[06:06] <orangemango> maybe your list is emtpy
[06:06] <aussieman> but how does it become malformed without doing anything
[06:06] <tyk0s_> i can't open it in computer
[06:06] <lastnode> g333k_work, yes change your dapper references in /etc/apt/sources.list to edgy. but it's in beta.
[06:06] <stu_> why you use Xfce??
[06:06] <lastnode> aussieman, pastebin your sources.list please
[06:06] <aussieman> where is the pastebin that you would like me to use
[06:06] <wilcox> Kurgan: no, not true. It's an emulation environment, so no real hardware connection (like host os)
[06:06] <stu_> I mean why use Xfce
[06:06] <lastnode> !pastebin
[06:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:06] <g333k_work> lastnode, so it is unstable?
[06:06] <aussieman> thanks
[06:06] <lastnode> g333k_work, yes.
[06:07] <lastnode> g333k_work, it will be released in October, you can upgrade then
[06:07] <sysdoc> What is the Ubuntu server channel called?
[06:07] <mon^rch> it's  stable enough
[06:07] <Jack_Sparrow> aussieman: Why dont you scroll back, I answered your question long before you started wining that no one said hello.
[06:07] <stu_> Kurgan: whilst you might get games to run they wont run well
[06:07] <lastnode> !server
[06:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[06:07] <lastnode> synak, #ubuntu-server
[06:07] <g333k_work> lastnode, I can change the references just for aminute to get the last xfce and get back to dapper afterwards
[06:07] <aussieman> sorry Jack_Sparrow you didnt
[06:07] <tyk0s_> shall i unmount it and try it over again?
[06:07] <sysdoc> ty
[06:07] <treedreamer> bye ,good night !
[06:08] <lastnode> g333k_work, it doesnt work like that :-) what you _can_ do is search packages.ubuntu.com and try and dowload the edgy package. but it might break.
[06:08] <Kurgan> Well, that's utterly depressing.
[06:08] <wilcox> Kurgan: vmw doesn't support Directx (however there is a sort of alpha support for it.. BUGGY)
[06:08] <g333k_work> lastnode, so what's the best solution then?
[06:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Wrong... I said post your sources list to the pastebin... which you still have not done after being asked a couple times...  So please stop wasting our time and yours
[06:08] <lastnode> g333k_work, id wait for dapper, or built from source.
[06:08] <coincoin169> the packets are for my computer but I want it to believe the packets don't come from where they are really coming
[06:08] <wilcox> Kurgan: do you have intel-VT or amd-v processor?
[06:08] <mon^rch> and thank-you to whoever sujjested using xmms again.... (didn't even have to install ANY codecs)
[06:08] <scrp> isnt the best way to run Windows and Ubuntu in dual boot, to partition the hdd into 3 partitions? hda1 Wind, hda2 swap, hda3 leetnux?
[06:08] <Kurgan> AMD64
[06:08] <Jassossovinik> i'm following the guide HERE: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=229559 - but i just can't get the patch to apply to the kernel, i get errors each time (HUNKS failed)
[06:09] <Jassossovinik> can anyone give me some advice?
[06:09] <lupine_85> the patch and source don't match up
[06:09] <wilcox> Kurgan: no i mean Virtualisation support (pacifica)
[06:09] <lupine_85> you can either try to apply it manually, or give up ;)
[06:09] <Jack_Sparrow> tyk0s_: You may need to edit your pmount allow to include that drive..  try this link for info  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:09] <trevis> is there a way to install the win32 codecs in edgy? it seems to have been removed from the repos
[06:10] <lastnode> trevis, #ubuntu+1
[06:10] <gnomefreak> trevis: edgy is in #ubuntu+1
[06:10] <Kurgan> No clue, then. Not familiar with that.
[06:10] <KenSentMe> I deleted the trashcan from my gnome desktop by accident. How can i place a new trashcan on the right of the Workspaces (don't know the exact english word)?
[06:10] <wilcox> Kurgan: san diago series
[06:10] <Jack_Sparrow> lastnode: :)
[06:10] <wilcox> ooh ok
[06:10] <trevis> thanks
[06:10] <lastnode> heh, gnomefreak
[06:10] <gnomefreak> :)
[06:10] <stu_> frikkin java
[06:10] <aussieman> ok this is what i had before when i got the first error- it worked before fine
[06:10] <Jassossovinik> lupine_85 - how do i apply it manually, and also, the writer of the patch says he has gotten it to apply on the same kernel version
[06:10] <aussieman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24998
[06:10] <Kurgan> Oh, that rings a bell. Lemme look at Everest....
[06:11] <stu_> Ive installed java5-sdk and all the JRE packages I can find but when I try load the cisco web vpn port re-director applett it still tells me I need java
[06:11] <wilcox> because if you have such a processor, you could try using XEN
[06:11] <wilcox> to use windows as guest
[06:11] <lastnode> stu_, sub-java5-bin ?
[06:11] <stu_> ill try it
[06:12] <lastnode> stu_, it's in multiverse, you have to enable it
[06:12] <wilcox> with xen, the guest can actually communicate with the hardware directly
[06:12] <Warbo> sun, not sub :)
[06:12] <wilcox> just like the host can
[06:12] <D-meist> hello all. ;)
[06:12] <Warbo> D-meist: yo
[06:12] <stu_> you meant sun-java5-bin didnt you ?
[06:12] <stu_> lastnode: ^
[06:12] <D-meist> need some help with a secondary hard drive I installed
[06:13] <lastnode> stu_, of course. sorry.
[06:13] <Warbo> D-meist: Permission problem?
[06:13] <D-meist> yep
[06:13] <stu_> lastnode: then yes, I have that installed?
[06:13] <lastnode> !fstab
[06:13] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[06:13] <lastnode> trigger happy, i am
[06:13] <Warbo> D-meist: OK, what format is it? (FAT32, NTFS, Ext3, etc.)
[06:13] <D-meist> ext3
[06:13] <lastnode> stu_, hrm that's really wierd. what browser?
[06:13] <D-meist> just want my normal user to be able to read, write, execute
[06:13] <D-meist> only root can do that so far
[06:13] <Jassossovinik> lupine_85 - how do i apply it manually, and also, the writer of the patch says he has gotten it to apply on the same kernel version?
[06:14] <mon^rch> is there a way to write to ntfs from linux?
[06:14] <lupine_85> Jassossovinik: follow the instructions of the patch writer then
[06:14] <Warbo> D-meist: That one's easy. Make sure your user has permission to read/write/execute the folder it is mounted to, then whatever files inside that you want access to (You know how to use chmod, right?)
[06:14] <stu_> lastnode: actually I just tried firefox and its working now, I was using konqurer or whatever it was called before
[06:14] <deep__> how can i make use of my "extra" buttons on my razermouse?
[06:14] <Jassossovinik> lupine_85 i was already :-s but i was just curious that you said it was possible to manually apply a patch
[06:14] <lupine_85> manually appling means opening up the .diff and the file(s) it's trying to patch, and doing each hunk yourself. It's not fun
[06:14] <D-meist> no.  how do you use chmod?
[06:14] <lastnode> Warbo, you need some mount options to make it writable as well no?
[06:14] <orangemango> isnt there some new driver 3tu something or other for ntfs
[06:14] <lupine_85> applying*
[06:14] <stu_> chmod is a whole new can or worms
[06:14] <lastnode> D-meist, chmod xxx dir/
[06:15] <Warbo> lastnode: ext3 is normally writable
[06:15] <Warbo> I think
[06:15] <ivaldi> mon^rch: yes, although it is not recommended. it's still considered pretty experimental
[06:15] <D-meist> how do I know what values to use for xxx?
[06:15] <lastnode> D-meist, id do chown - chown user /media/hdaX
[06:15] <lastnode> D-meist, id do chown - chown -R user /media/hdaX i mean
[06:15] <mon^rch> yeah... heard about that one ty
[06:15] <lupine_85> ntfs-3f is apparently pretty good now
[06:15] <lupine_85> erm, 3g
[06:15] <wilcox> deep__: by adding some extra lines to the xorg.conf file
[06:15] <lupine_85> I still wouldn't recommend it though ;)
[06:15] <Warbo> "sudo chmod 777 /path/to/mount/point" will give everyone read/write/execute permissions for that folder
[06:15] <Jack_Sparrow> aussieman: Error line 1 is single # instead of double
[06:15] <aussieman> thanks Jack_Sparrow
[06:15] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[06:15] <lastnode> Warbo, isnt it generally safer to just give each user?
[06:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Can we make nice now
[06:16] <D-meist> k, let me try Warbo's suggestion real fast.  I'll brb
[06:16] <deep__> wilcox: ...=
[06:16] <Warbo> Anything more secure than that would involve setting the user and/or group
[06:16] <deep__> ?**
[06:16] <lastnode> D-meist, security wise, id use chown, and give each user you want access. 777 means anyone can write,
[06:16] <mon^rch> wow, I'm suprised my wine worked so well right off the bat
[06:16] <Crazed> Jack_Sparrow: you got time for me ? :)
[06:16] <Crazed> or busy :P
[06:16] <Kurgan> Ack. My Everest version is too old. Not giving me all the info. It's an AMD64 3000+. I can see "Virtual Mode Extension" is supported, but the other thing isn't listed (either yes or no).
[06:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Crazed: If I know the answer sure
[06:16] <Warbo> lastnode: That's waht I'm on about, but secondary HD usually just means file storage for regular users
[06:16] <aussieman> Jack_Sparrow, sorry for dumb question but that is the actual first line of the text doc?
[06:16] <aussieman> i changed that and still the same
[06:17] <lastnode> Warbo, true.
[06:17] <orangemango> whats a good irc app
[06:17] <D-meist> so for me since my user name is daniel, I would put the following into the terminal:  chown daniel /media/storage
[06:17] <lastnode> aussieman, link your paste
[06:17] <lastnode> orangemango, xchat
[06:17] <Warbo> orangemango: Apparently XChat, but I use GAIM
[06:17] <lastnode> D-meist, dont forget the -R flag
[06:17] <Jack_Sparrow> aussieman: what did you change it to?
[06:17] <manmadha> D-meist, he first u read the manuals man..
[06:17] <lastnode> means recursive, generally helps
[06:17] <habeeb> Hello, I'm using Rhythmbox as my media player. I cant setup the keybindings for it from anywhere in the program, so I tried the "System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts" tried many combinations and nothing worked. Any ideas?
[06:17] <orangemango> lastnode: thx
[06:17] <stu_> can I load Xfce/gnome and KDE on the same box and switch between ?
[06:17] <Crazed> well Jack_Sparrow, I got this problem with Klipper using Gnome a first it was working all fine and it just puts the icon in tray
[06:17] <Warbo> (XChat crashed the last few times I used it, so I gave up)
[06:17] <wilcox> deep__: Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
[06:17] <aussieman> ##
[06:17] <orangemango> Warbo: thx
[06:17] <Crazed> but now the icon wont go in tray
[06:17] <D-meist> k, lemme try
[06:17] <lastnode> stu_, sure
[06:17] <lastnode> D-meist, man chown
[06:17] <Crazed> but some annoying window where it holds the icon ..
[06:17] <stu_> lastnode: do I just install them using Adept ?
[06:18] <psylocybe> how can i see hidden files in xmms?
[06:18] <deep__> wilcox: Aaah, nice. What are the mousebuttons "known as" after that?
[06:18] <lastnode> Warbo, xchat crashed? NEVER. :P
[06:18] <Warbo> I've heard that irssi has GUI modules, is that right?
[06:18] <lastnode> stu_, sure
[06:18] <deep__> wilcox: mouse4 and mouse5?
[06:18] <Jack_Sparrow> aussieman: remove th first line
[06:18] <marcie> hello, where can i find the alternate text-mode cd for ubuntu and kubuntu? I find them listed as what I need but looking around the site I can't find them
[06:18] <lastnode> psylocybe, #xmms please :-)
[06:18] <Warbo> lastnode: It may have been XChat-gnome (I have heard a few flame wars between the two :) )
[06:18] <wilcox> deep__: yes
[06:18] <psylocybe> oh thanks! :)
[06:18] <Jack_Sparrow> aussieman: a backup  is always a good idea  sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/sources.list.backup
[06:19] <Warbo> releases.ubuntu.com I think has CD images
[06:19] <marcie> i'll go try
[06:19] <aussieman> yeh i have a back up sudo does not work for me at all
[06:19] <Jack_Sparrow> aussieman: Close the sources.list and open it again to make sure the changes are in place.
[06:19] <lastnode> aussieman, sudo doesnt work?
[06:19] <Crazed> Jack_Sparrow: you got any clue why ?
[06:19] <aussieman> maybe i have an old 86 laptop toshiba and the gui's are giving me hell
[06:19] <stu_> what are the disadvanges of using Xfce ?
[06:19] <mohaghna101> i think breezy badger is better than dapper for old systems
[06:19] <aussieman> sudo works but the gks or whatever it is called does not
[06:19] <sidny4> I have the alternate cd, how do I make the ubuntu setup recognize the partitions on my RAID 0?
[06:19] <Warbo> marcie: See my above message ^
[06:19] <LazyAngel> HI! anyone knows if its possible to hotswat eSATA disks? I'm about to buy an external harddisk with either usb 2.0 or eSATA interface. But if it can't be hotswapped like USB, then i don't get the point...
[06:19] <D-meist> ok, kewl!  that seemed to work, but write access seemes to still be disabled
[06:19] <aussieman> so im doign things ass root and then apt
[06:19] <aussieman> as im used to dong
[06:20] <D-meist> can't paste into any of the directoreis
[06:20] <mohaghna101> apt-get fails most of times
[06:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Crazed: I have not used kiipper, so I wont be of much help.. Sorry.. but someone else may be using it.
[06:20] <mon^rch> tc ppl
[06:20] <Warbo> aussieman: If gksudo doesn't work then "sudo -s -H" then the command for the GUI app should work (not recommended, but it is better than "sudo gui-app")
[06:20] <Crazed> well it's just a KDE app under GNome
[06:20] <ivaldi> stu_: it's perhaps not as user friendly or as well-integrated as Gnome, but it's getting there.
[06:20] <Crazed> using the tray icon stuff
[06:20] <marcie> thank you very much...the text mode is there, my old computer can't do the new type!
[06:20] <twopoint0> is WINE in the repo?
[06:21] <Crazed> but not working right now :(
[06:21] <D-meist> u still there lastnode?
[06:21] <Warbo> !info wine
[06:21] <lastnode> twopoint0, sure
[06:21] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[06:21] <lastnode> D-meist, yes sir.
[06:21] <stu_> I've installed Xfce4 - now what?
[06:21] <Warbo> twopoint0: In Universe yes (they also have their own Ubuntu repo for newer verisons)
[06:21] <sidny4> I have the alternate cd, how do I make the ubuntu setup recognize the partitions on my RAID 0?
[06:21] <D-meist> kewl, it seemed to work, but write access still seems to be disabled
[06:21] <D-meist> can't paste into any of the directories
[06:21] <stu_> how do I load it like
[06:21] <orangemango> wine is not an emulator
[06:21] <holzmodem> how can i set firefox rc1 as default browsing application?
[06:21] <IceTox> Anyone knows how I can run the gtk2 script I have for firefox?
[06:21] <lastnode> D-meist, paste your /etc/fstab please
[06:21] <D-meist> k, hold
[06:22] <Warbo> stu_: Normally go to login screen and choose it as "session" (button name depends on the theme you use)
[06:22] <stu_> ill try - brb
[06:22] <D-meist> /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[06:22] <D-meist> /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[06:22] <D-meist> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[06:22] <D-meist> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[06:22] <D-meist> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[06:22] <D-meist> /dev/sda        /media/usb0     auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[06:22] <D-meist> /dev/hdb5 /media/storage ext3 defaults 0 0
[06:22] <Warbo> IceTox: "gtk2 script"? Is that a shell script or something?
[06:22] <lastnode> D-meist, whoa!
[06:22] <lastnode> dude
[06:22] <Alam_Ubuntu> use pastebin.ca?
[06:22] <lastnode> !paste
[06:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:22] <IceTox> nevermind Warbo :) I found out :)
[06:22] <Jack_Sparrow> aussieman: If you dont use my nick you get lost in the chaos... gksudo is for gui apps... is the original problem fixed?
[06:22] <D-meist> hehe, sorry.  i'm noob
[06:22] <lastnode> D-meist, you can get kick/banned for that kinda flood
[06:23] <D-meist> sry :O
[06:23] <lastnode> D-meist, set that defaults to rw,user
[06:23] <aussieman> Jack_Sparrow,  sorry i see that , no the sources are still fsucked
[06:23] <r000t> mysql in dapper is not like on other places is it?? someone know of this????? i try to log in with the anonymous user just doing mysql and get access denied and i cant see a test database
[06:23] <Warbo> D-meist: Hang on, I need to reattach a poster to my wall........
[06:23] <lastnode> D-meist, rw,user,umask=000
[06:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource
[06:23] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:23] <D-meist> ok
[06:23] <Tomcat_> r000t: The mysql install in Ubuntu is pretty secure, I doubt anonymous has access.
[06:23] <D-meist> and totally take out "defaults" right?
[06:23] <stu_> right I have Xfce up and running, I dont appear to have a menu though??
[06:23] <aussieman> Jack_Sparrow, i think i need a break, hence my original grumpiness, my back is startign to stress from this ...
[06:24] <Jack_Sparrow> aussieman: IS it still an error on line 1
[06:24] <lastnode> D-meist, of course fstab is read on boot, so you'll need to reboot
[06:24] <lastnode> D-meist, yes
[06:24] <D-meist> k
[06:24] <aussieman> Jack_Sparrow, yes
[06:24] <D-meist> I'll see you in a couple minutes
[06:24] <ivaldi> stu_: try right-clicking on the desktop, that should bring up a menu
[06:24] <lastnode> D-meist, sure
[06:24] <Warbo> D-meist: I would suggest changing "user" to "users" as well, but I don't know if that will help directly
[06:24] <r000t> Tomcat_: so there is no test database either by default.. just trying to learn some mysql but things seem a bit different here
[06:24] <lastnode> D-meist, hold up
[06:25] <lastnode> Warbo, thank you
[06:25] <aussieman> jackstill got the error ill post it again
[06:26] <Jack_Sparrow> aussieman: Redo you sources list from that link.. something deeper may be wrong...  how many non standard repos/apps have you installed
[06:26] <stu_> xfce sucks lol
[06:26] <aussieman> a couple
[06:26] <Warbo> How am I meant to settle into University accomodation when all of my posters keep falling down? Crappy white-tack...
[06:26] <aussieman> Jack_Sparrow,  sorry a couple but i commented them out
[06:26] <frogzoo> coincoin169: you could try your original rule s/PREROUTING/POSTROUTING
[06:27] <Jack_Sparrow> aussieman: If you rebuild your sources list from that link and you still have a prblem then we need to dig deeper
[06:27] <frogzoo> Warbo: rising damp
[06:27] <jbu> hi all...everytime i load firefox it says welcome to ubuntu 6.06, but when i do a cat proc/version in terminal it says 4.04 lubuntu...which is it?
[06:27] <Ghostrider> a question, can somebody help me? how to format my hard drivers for ubuntu?
[06:28] <aussieman> Jack_Sparrow,  let me work on it and I will get back later, im gonna go take out frustration on my bike instead of you before it gets dark
[06:28] <Jack_Sparrow> aussieman: I need to get back to work here in a minute but somone is always around , just have a little patience.
[06:28] <r000t> how does ubuntu server compare to for instance debian .. and what are the differences
[06:28] <r000t> someone know of this
[06:28] <Jack_Sparrow> cya
[06:28] <erUSUL> jbu: cat /proc/version gives the kernel version; cat /etc/lsb-release gives the ubuntu version
[06:29] <Diego> Alright, so how do I burn the ISO to a bootable disc?
[06:29] <Sivik> Diego: what program
[06:29] <aussieman> ok Jack_Sparrow  here is the last pastebin which is the list i had going ok before this afternoon http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25003
[06:29] <Warbo> kernel 4.04? I WANT THAT!
[06:29] <erUSUL> Diego: right click in nautilus and choose burn to disk
[06:29] <Sivik> Warbo: 4.04 is a little old there
[06:29] <Diego> Nero, can get Alcohol 120 if it's better
[06:29] <Warbo> Well I am using 2.6.....
[06:29] <Sivik> Warbo: the newest kernel is 2.6.18
[06:30] <coincoin169> i did this : iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -d 3.3.3.3 -j DNAT --to-destination 66.249.85.104
[06:30] <coincoin169> so when i type 3.3.3.3 in my browser address bar i rech google and i get the response and the google main page shows up in my browser
[06:30] <Sivik> Warbo: and the newest 2.4 is 	2.4.33.3
[06:30] <ks1> Sivik, I think you missed the point. 4.04 > 2.6.x
[06:30] <Warbo> Is 2.6.18 out yet? I downloaded a release candidate a few weeks ago
[06:30] <ks1> although the versioning he used does not correspond
[06:30] <Sivik> ks1: but i don't think he understand correctly
[06:31] <Sivik> Warbo: yes, go to kernel.org
[06:31] <ks1> Warbo, 2.6.18 is out
[06:31] <jbu> erUSUL: oh ok
[06:31] <Warbo> OK. It wasn't for me, just that a KNOPPIX I was recompiling needed a new kernel
[06:31] <coincoin169> but how does mozilla accept the packets i receive because he believes that i sent this packets to 3.3.3.3 and not google so i might wait to receive only packet with 3.3.3.3 ip source
[06:31] <ks1> Sivik, he meant like kernel version 4.0 was out. He wants that because it is newer than say 2.6; 4.0 > 2.0
[06:31] <we2by> !install
[06:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[06:32] <twopoint0> sorry, where in the repo is WINE?  I search for it, but I don't think it's showing me what I am looking for
[06:32] <Sivik> ks1: i didn't know they had different numbers to help describe them, i'm sorry
[06:32] <Warbo> !universe > twopoint0
[06:32] <Sivik> twopoint0: did you uncomment all of the other repos in the /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:32] <Warbo> Maybe try that
[06:32] <lastnode> Warbo, did D-meist come back?
[06:32] <twopoint0> by uncommenting you mean removing the #, right?
[06:33] <Warbo> I didn't notice them
[06:33] <ks1> twopoint0, yes
[06:33] <twopoint0> yes I did
[06:33] <geeksauce> i have an intel mac and would like to dual-boot OS X and Unbuntu.  i've read that it's possible but i can't seem to find a how-to on it.
[06:33] <Sivik> twopoint0: yes
[06:33] <erUSUL> twopoint0: for the latest versions i use (from source-o-matic) deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[06:33] <Sivik> twopoint0: after you did that, did you sudo apt-getupdate?
[06:33] <Sivik> twopoint0: after you did that, did you sudo apt-get update?
[06:33] <Sivik> erUSUL: what is the newest version of wine?
[06:33] <twopoint0> i did not sudo apt-getupdate
[06:34] <Sivik> twopoint0: do sudo apt-get update in order to update the changes you made
[06:34] <frogzoo> Sivik: 0.9.21 - but 0.9.20 has a src repo
[06:34] <twopoint0> i thought synaptic would do it when it reloaded
[06:34] <Sivik> twopoint0: not sure, i don't use synaptic, i use command line
[06:34] <Warbo> If you use the graphical way of adding repos then it will tell you to reload, but editing the file manually will not force it
[06:34] <erUSUL> Sivik: i have instaled Wine 0.9.21
[06:35] <twopoint0> Ign http://wine.budgetdedicated.com dapper Release.gpg
[06:35] <twopoint0> Hit http://wine.budgetdedicated.com dapper Release
[06:35] <twopoint0> Ign http://wine.budgetdedicated.com dapper/main Packages
[06:35] <twopoint0> Err http://wine.budgetdedicated.com dapper/main Packages
[06:35] <twopoint0>   404 Not Found
[06:35] <erUSUL> !paste > twopoint0
[06:35] <Sivik> twopoint0: use pastebin
[06:35] <geeksauce> anyone had any success with ubuntu on an intel mac?
[06:35] <lourdes> hgbdge
[06:35] <lourdes> hdsgbfg
[06:36] <lastnode> twopoint0, those are wierd repos. wine is in universe
[06:36] <Sivik> geeksauce: its probably not that difficult
[06:36] <lastnode> lourdes, ?
[06:36] <lourdes> nchgklpjg
[06:36] <twopoint0> i'm so lost but ok
[06:36] <Warbo> I have started a Java course, and the lecturer has gone through "javac XXXXXXXX.java" then "java XXXXXX", what kind of thing should I install to compile Java? (Should I go all out with Eclipse and then get confused with options :) )
[06:36] <iturk> hi there i am trying to connect to a WPA network and i have this problem -> http://lists.shmoo.com/pipermail/hostap/2006-July/013706.html || The point is due to the error in the end of the log i cannot connect to the wpa network !! Is there anyone with the same problem ?? My board is a "prism GT" and i am using the hostap driver !!
[06:36] <lourdes> areyou
[06:36] <erUSUL> !java > Warbo
[06:36] <ks1> Warbo, jdk
[06:36] <lourdes> rhuiovhdclpvpk
[06:37] <lourdes> pvp.kvk, m kfkkkjnioh hymcj  bjnug
[06:37] <geeksauce> Sivik: i think the biggest problem will be figuring out which bootloader to use
[06:37] <Warbo> It's that simple? OK, I htought I might need an IDE
[06:37] <Sivik> geeksauce: just use the one that comes with mac
[06:37] <Warbo> Now I could be petty and insist on GCJ
[06:37] <ks1> Warbo, you do not have to use an IDE, you can install eclipse if you would like
[06:37] <geeksauce> Boot Camp?
[06:37] <ks1> write code in vim/gedit/etc, then in terminal javac something.java
[06:37] <geeksauce> Sivik: BootCamo?
[06:38] <geeksauce> Sivik: BootCamp*
[06:41] <Overand> I'm having trouble with wifi on my friend's ubuntu machine
[06:41] <Overand> apparently it works in most places, butat her apartment it doesn't
[06:41] <g333k_work> Hello, I want to get one src pkg from edgy, where can I get it?
[06:41] <Overand> I'm current *at* her apartment, and the access point is fine
[06:42] <Overand> It's an orinoco-series card
[06:42] <Led_Zeppelin> hey, anyone here know how to use the fbset command?
[06:42] <Overand> and i see the access point just fine in iwconfig, but when i try to run dhclient, nothing
[06:42] <Led_Zeppelin> my FB is screwed up
[06:43] <finalbeta> highlight
[06:43] <Led_Zeppelin> highlight?
[06:43] <Winter-Soulstic1> Anyone know where I can check to see why my wireless card works in a regular gnome session but does not in an xgl sessio? I am thinking there is a script running in gnome that is not in the xgl session
[06:43] <wick2o> hello
[06:43] <g333k_work> Hello, I want to get one src pkg from edgy, where can I get it?
[06:43] <D-meist> !paste
[06:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:43] <finalbeta> Saying fb highlights me...
[06:43] <wick2o> anyone else having problems updateing with the http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security... source?
[06:44] <erUSUL> Winter-Soulstic1: network manager ??
[06:44] <sidny4> I have the alternate cd, how do I make the ubuntu setup recognize the partitions on my RAID 0?
[06:44] <erUSUL> !lvm
[06:44] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[06:45] <exmethix> hey @ all
[06:45] <exmethix> i have a question
[06:45] <Diego> I really can't figure out how to burn to a bootable disc from Nero or Alcohol 120.
[06:45] <Diego> I burned a disc, but it doesn't seem to be bootable.
[06:45] <exmethix> i am using tightvnc viewer to control a pc in my network
[06:45] <frogzoo> Diego: burn iso or image
[06:45] <Winter-Soulstic1> Im thinking there is some script running when gnome starts but not xgl... where is the scripts that run when gnome starts?
[06:46] <g333k_work> Hello, I want to get one src pkg from edgy, where can I get it?
[06:46] <exmethix> i wnat to have a starter in my desktop, that automatically starts this desktop with host an password
[06:46] <exmethix> any idea?
[06:47] <LuisMendes> how can I add 7z support to File Roller?
[06:47] <Winter-Soulstic1> nope sorry
[06:47] <erUSUL> !iso
[06:47] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[06:47] <drew> What's the bash equivalent of ipconfig?
[06:48] <LinAsH> ifconfig
[06:48] <drew> LinAsH, Thank you.
[06:48] <Diego> frogzoo: I'm on WinXP. I downloaded the i386 desktop 6.06 Ubuntu ISO image, and don't know how to burn it to a bootable disc. I burned the image with Nero to a disc, but it refuses to recognize it when booting.
[06:49] <exmethix> Diego, maybe the image i defekt
[06:49] <Winter-Soulstic1> Did you make sure that you have your cd-rom as first boot priority?
[06:49] <Warbo> Diego: Is there just the ISO file on the CD?
[06:49] <frogzoo> Diego: you probly just burnt the iso as a file - you need to select 'burn image to disk' or similiar, then specify the iso as the file
[06:49] <Led_Zeppelin> trying to set my FB
[06:49] <Led_Zeppelin> anyone assist me?
[06:50] <Diego> It's a blank, yeah.
[06:50] <Diego> Hmpf. I'll give it another shot.
[06:50] <Xklark> Hello, I had a problem with apt-get
[06:50] <Warbo> Led_Zeppelin: I think it is a command line option for the level
[06:50] <Xklark> I am trying to install the OpenSSh and the FTP
[06:50] <Xklark> and it says insert CD
[06:50] <Xklark> so i put it in
[06:50] <Xklark> then, it ejects
[06:50] <LinAsH> Diego, check the md5 sum
[06:50] <Xklark> and says insert cd.
[06:50] <Xklark> and repeats
[06:50] <Warbo> Led_Zeppelin: It's not in the manual
[06:51] <Warbo> Mind you, you are probably on about your Framebuffer
[06:51] <shwag> I dont see anything on the common tasks guide about installing fonts? do I need to do that?  https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html
[06:51] <Led_Zeppelin> Warbo: hmm, how do I get atleast a good resolution?
[06:51] <Warbo> Whilst I am on about Frozen Bubble :)
[06:51] <frogzoo> !fonts
[06:51] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[06:51] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[06:51] <Diego> LinAsH: How do I do that?
[06:51] <Warbo> Sorry, I couldn't resist
[06:51] <D-meist> ok lastnode.  after chaning my fstab, I wasn't able to access my hdb5 at all.  Actually the little icon for the hd showed up in nautilus under filesystem.  But when I tried to double click it, it said, "Unable to mount the selected volume.  The volume is probably in a format that cannot be mounted."
[06:52] <LinAsH> Xklark, remove the CD from your /etc/apt/source.list
[06:52] <D-meist> I've posted my fstab in the pastebin if you want to check it out
[06:52] <Xklark> 905
[06:52] <Xklark> LinASH
[06:52] <yango> what's the package to get the source of current installed kernels?
[06:52] <Xklark> ok ill try
[06:52] <Warbo> Led_Zeppelin: Sorry, I am very immature, and I don't know anything about framebuffers (other than I always say no in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg)
[06:52] <yango> i tried kernel-source but it doesn't have the files generated by make
[06:52] <Warbo> yango: The package is linux-source-2.6.15
[06:53] <Warbo> kernel-source is used by 2.4
[06:53] <Warbo> probably because Debian can use a few different kernels experimentally
[06:54] <ruzgar> the subtitle font size settings not works in totem?
[06:54] <yango> hmmm, thanks... but will i need to run make afterwards?
[06:54] <yango> to get the files neeeded for building moduiles?
[06:54] <ruzgar> my setting is 72 verdana but that is too little
[06:54] <D-meist> is anybody willing to check out my fstab and see what I'm doing wrong? :)
[06:54] <Warbo> yango: Yes, that just gets the source with Ubuntu patches applied
[06:54] <Warbo> Modules use linux-headers-2.6.15-XXXXXXX
[06:54] <FurryNemesis> zzz
[06:54] <Warbo> "sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[06:54] <yango> Warbo, then that's the package I'm looking for ! :)
[06:55] <krups> anybody tried edgy out yet?  am mostly thinking about how it reacts to automatix.
[06:55] <Diego> LinAsH, how do I check the md5 sum?
[06:55] <LinAsH> Diego, use this http://www.md5summer.org with the iso you downloaded and compare with this : http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06/release.1/MD5SUMS
[06:55] <Warbo> yango: Run that command, and the bit inside brackets will give your version to the command
[06:55] <bur[n] er> krups: just wait for edgy to become stable
[06:55] <D-meist> lastnode, u there?
[06:55] <Berto> Are there any deb servers that have mplayer package WITH all win32 binary codecs?
[06:56] <yango> Warbo, thanks, but already did an equivalent command (not that newbie :) )
[06:56] <Warbo> krups: I would say that Automatix would need to be rewritten, but judging from some of the stuff Automatix does I doubt any of it's users are "still" in Dapper :)
[06:56] <ruzgar> !podcast
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about podcast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <Warbo> ruzgar: Watch out, Apple will sue you!
[06:56] <zappe> i'm using exim and dovecot and when i send mail to zappe@klaus.americandad.hv.se it works but when i send to zappe@americandad.hv.se i get unkown user. what can be wrong?
[06:57] <krups> Warbo:thnx
[06:57] <ruzgar> linux can play video podcast
[06:57] <Warbo> I have to be off now, bye
[06:57] <ruzgar> i mean amarok?
[06:57] <Warbo> !penguintv
[06:57] <xevix>  (o_
[06:57] <xevix> //\
[06:57] <xevix> V_/_
[06:57] <ubotu> penguintv: podcasts and video blogs for Linux. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.02-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 127 kB, installed size 772 kB
[06:57] <ruzgar> thanks
[06:58] <chris12349> I'm having some issues with nautilus and ssh,  I've got several servers  that I connect to w/ ssh that I save in Nautilus under "Places"  Most of the time when clicked,  they don't ask for a password and loops until nautilus no longer responds... any ideas?
[06:58] <FRET> hey all
[07:00] <samir85> Hi
[07:00] <FalleStar> Hello
[07:01] <samir85> can somebody tell me how can i see which alsa version i am running ?
[07:01] <muroc> hi all i need some help with some old nvidia grafics drivers
[07:02] <ETronik> muroc, the legacy drivers?
[07:02] <ETronik> muroc, I'm no expert  but I got one ofthose
[07:02] <muroc> ETronik: nope i read that cedega would run better with the driver 7676 but i cant install it correctly
[07:03] <shwag> how do I uninstall something AND all the dependencies it installed ?
[07:03] <ETronik> U already got me stumped... :-) cedega ?
[07:03] <ephemeros> yo ppl \m/
[07:03] <muroc> ETronik: its a emulation program vor windows games
[07:04] <ETronik> muroc, I just gor the wikipedia pege on it :-)
[07:04] <muroc> ETronik:  sth like wine winex
[07:04] <muroc> kk
[07:04] <ETronik> muroc, ok so I cant help :-)
[07:05] <muroc> :)
[07:05] <muroc> ETronik: okay thx anyway :)
 If you installed it with aptitude it's easy..If you use apt-get I'm not sure it uninstalls all the dependencies but I stand to be corrected
[07:06] <FalleStar> I'm pretty new to Linux, if someone could help me figure out how to configure my PCI ATI Radeon 9250 that'd be great.  Ubuntu refuses to boot when I have it in.  I tried installing the fglrx-6-8-0_8.28.8-2_i386 driver but it still doesn't work.
[07:07] <tyk0s_> someone that play world of warcraft thew any emulater? winehq?
[07:07] <erUSUL> FalleStar: i used to have that card and worked very fine with the free radeon driver try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and choose ati as the driver
[07:07] <LinAsH> FallenHitokiri, you must use the ati or radeon driver not fglrx
[07:07] <g333k_work> How to upgrade to edgy?
[07:07] <FalleStar> Alright I'll try that, thanks :D
[07:08] <tyk0s_> any tip of good emulator for games?
[07:08] <FallenHitokiri> LinAsH: nah. i'm happy with the fglrx driver
[07:08] <Squee> tyk0s: what kind of games, snes, 64?
[07:08] <LinAsH> sorry wrong nick ;)
[07:08] <morrye> Whats the best linux partition format?
[07:08] <FallenHitokiri> LinAsH: i know ;)
[07:09] <tyk0s_> like warcraft 3,starcraft,world of warcraft,counter strike etc.
[07:09] <Squee> morrye: I like reiserfs
[07:09] <FallenHitokiri> morrye: there is no gerneral answer. it depends on what you plan to do
[07:09] <ncp> 10:06 < ncp> i have by mistake deleted /usr/sbin/postqueue, how can i make a new one? i get this error when i run mailq ( mailq: fatal:
[07:09] <morrye> Squee: Is there really a best or doesn't it matter?
[07:09] <ncp> execv /usr/sbin/postqueue: Exec format error )
[07:09] <g333k_work> How to upgrade to edgy from dapper ??
[07:09] <Squee> tyk0s_: well, use wine or cedega (cedega works perfectly for warcraft 3)
[07:09] <morrye> FallenHitokiri: I plan to store media files only, mainly .avi
[07:09] <erUSUL> !edgy
[07:09] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:09] <Squee> morre: It's more opinion, I like reiserfs because it recovers better
[07:09] <tyk0s_> okey.. where do i get cedega?
[07:10] <Squee> transgaming.com, however the binaries are going to cost you money, so you have to compile it by source by yourself
[07:10] <Squee> google for howtos on compiling it, I know there are step by step directions to do it
[07:10] <FallenHitokiri> morrye: ext3 is fine - i'm no fan of reiser - but that's because the old versions (suse 5.x) with large files jfs / xfs could perform better - depends on your system
[07:11] <morrye> FallenHitokiri: Thanks for your help, i'm just looking for the most stable
[07:11] <FallenHitokiri> morrye: they should all be stable
[07:12] <WRFC_Rabbit> hi
[07:12] <Tonren> Hay guys.  I am using bcm43xx native firmware to use my wireless, but in many low-signal locations, Windows can pick up the signal fine, and Linux can't!  Should I try switching to ndiswrapper, or is it unlikely that this will affect my signal pickup ability?
[07:12] <surlaw> Hey =) anyone can help me with installing ndiswrapper to set up my wifi please ? ;) spent hours trying on different distribs, never worked :/
[07:12] <JosefK> does anyone know any alternatives to Maple for Ubuntu, or anything that can notate matrices fairly easily?
[07:12] <Wanderer> anyone know how to enable monitor out on a laptop with ati video card?
[07:12] <JosefK> OpenOffice Math is too much hassle :/
[07:12] <Tonren> Two ndiswrapper questions in two seconds!  TIME PARADOX, OH SHI-
[07:12] <surlaw> Tonren ahah and u sue the same chipset as me
[07:12] <morrye> FallenHitokiri: how do I open up the partitioner?
[07:12] <surlaw> never got it to work :/
[07:12] <Tonren> JosefK: Do Maple and OOMath both use TeX?
[07:12] <surlaw> use*
[07:12] <Squee> Fallenhitokiri &morre: I've noticed that ext3 doesn't always recover well in ubuntu, but reiser has done it for me every time
[07:13] <anilomkar> I want Google Talk in Ubuntu
[07:13] <JosefK> Tonren: I was looking for wysiwig, not layout for printing ;) but thanks
[07:13] <Squee> anilomkar: google for tapioca
[07:13] <morrye> Spuee: Why would I need to recover?
[07:13] <JosefK> *wysiwyg
[07:13] <Tonren> anilomkar: Use Gaim with Jabber.  There's a help file on it in Gmail Help
[07:13] <FallenHitokiri> moreon: converting or new partitions?
[07:13] <Tonren> JosefK: Oh my.  Math WYSIWYG sounds like a nightmare
[07:13] <Squee> morrye: you never know until you have to
[07:13] <LinAsH> JosefK, wxMaxima
[07:13] <JosefK> Tonren: indeed, but Maple and the stuff on the Mac do it fairly well - thanks LinAsH
[07:13] <Tonren> surlaw: There are actually native drivers for Broadcom 43** in LInux... I think they're in a repository maintained by a fella named Cafuego
[07:13] <surlaw> Tonren, could u explain to me how u make ur wifi works ? =)
[07:14] <surlaw> i see
[07:14] <FallenHitokiri> Squee: as i already told: i only know the really old versions - but servers running ext3 never hand problmes if they shuted down not regularay (surges for example)
[07:14] <anilomkar> can any one help me my ethernet card RTL8139D is not working in Ubuntu
[07:14] <surlaw> i totally noob about linux so any more explanation on how to get them N :p
[07:14] <Tonren> surlaw: I'm actually a little rushed to give a super detailed explanation, but let me give you as thorough an outline as I can:
[07:14] <FallenHitokiri> anilomkar: what's the problem?
[07:15] <anilomkar> Fallen
[07:15] <Squee> Does anyone know how to list how many files are in a directory?  I can't just simply ls because there is almost half a million files in there
[07:15] <Tonren> surlaw: Go to this URL http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/dapper-cafuego/bcm43xx/ and follow the instructions.  You must open a file called /etc/apt/sources.list and add the two specified lines to it.
[07:15] <surlaw> tonren sure thx =)
[07:15] <LinAsH> JosefK, there is also octave (=matlab)
[07:15] <anilomkar> FallenHitokiri, not detecting in Ubuntu
[07:15] <Dr_willis> Squee,  they got spaces in the filenames?
[07:15] <Dr_willis> Squee,  if not ya can do a echo * | wc -w
[07:15] <Tonren> Squee: There's a command line test that lists the amount of lines in a given output... I can't remember it off the top of my head, but it exists
[07:15] <FallenHitokiri> Squee: ls | wc , tree ,...
[07:15] <FallenHitokiri> anilomkar: working in another system?
[07:15] <Dr_willis> ls | wc -l
[07:16] <Dr_willis> may work better
[07:16] <LuisMendes> I use the command "mount -o loop,offset=32256 Image.img /home/user/Folder" to mound Image.img to a Folder... how can I unmount it?
[07:16] <Tonren> surlaw: /etc/apt/sources.list is the file that determined where Apt(itude), the Package Manager, searches for stuff when you want to install things
[07:16] <g333k_work> to do a "aptitude upgrade" do I need to edit my sources.list?
[07:16] <Tonren> LuisMendes: umount /home/user/Folder
[07:16] <tucoz> Hi, do you know how to change the gdm theme from xubuntu to ubuntu?
[07:16] <anilomkar> FallenHitokiri, Not working the drivers for Kernel version 2.6x not available
[07:16] <Tonren> tucoz: By GDM theme, do you mean login theme?
[07:16] <Squee> tucoz: do you have a theme already?
[07:16] <surlaw> tonren so i need to edit it to make it look not on the web
[07:16] <FallenHitokiri> anilomkar: do you have the sources?
[07:16] <Tonren> surlaw: Not quite, you just need to add the two lines provided at that URL, to tell it to look in a specific location
[07:17] <anilomkar> ya i am having source but that is for Kernel version 2.4x
[07:17] <LuisMendes> Tonren, thanks, it works!
[07:17] <tucoz> Squee, Tonren: not sure. I use gdm, but is on the login screen it says xubuntu. I used xubuntu for a while, bit is back with gnome.
[07:17] <Tonren> LuisMendes: No prob
[07:17] <surlaw> Tonren: but i dont have the net on the other comp, since i cant get my wifi to work :/
[07:17] <Tonren> tucoz: Login screen... you mean bootup screen?
[07:17] <tucoz> Tonren, so I guess I mean login theme
[07:17] <anilomkar> FallenHitokiri, ya i am having source but that is for Kernel version 2.4x
[07:18] <surlaw> tonren: i dled the file, ill tranfer it with my usb key anyway
[07:18] <tucoz> Tonren, no, not bootsplash
[07:18] <Tonren> tucoz: If it's as simple as the login screen, then just to System -> Preferences -> Login
[07:18] <tucoz> oh. thanks
[07:18] <FallenHitokiri> anilomkar: is this a gigabit-nic?
[07:18] <tucoz> Tonren, if i had that will say. I can not find a login entry in the preferences menu
[07:18] <anilomkar> no Intex
[07:19] <Tonren> surlaw: That's a good idea.  Once you've installed it, do "sudo modprobe bcm43xx".  AT that point, wlan0 or eth1 should show up in your network manager applet.
[07:19] <anilomkar> FallenHitokiri, No Intex
[07:19] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[07:19] <Tonren> surlaw: If anything doesn't go as planned, refer to this URL: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[07:19] <FallenHitokiri> anilomkar: 10/100mbit or 1000mbit (gigabit)?
[07:19] <tucoz> Tonren, nevermind. It was in administration :)
[07:19] <surlaw> tonren ok thx a lot :)))
[07:19] <Tonren> tucoz: My bad.  :P
[07:19] <anilomkar> FallenHitokiri, 10/100mbit not gigabit it is Intex
[07:19] <tucoz> thanks for the help
[07:20] <linuxboyfriend> can anyone tell me that how can i save a sequence of webpages i.e http://www.webpage.com/book/chapter001.htm to http://www.webpage.com/book/chapter100.htm
[07:20] <morrye> How do you use the root user (not in terminal)
[07:20] <FallenHitokiri> anilomkar: the label doesn't matter -  RTL8139D is the important information. should be a realtek and the 8130too module should work fine
[07:20] <main2>  i got a nvidia 6800 with 128MB, can i use my 20" TFT on the 1680x1050 resolution?
[07:20] <Tonren> linuxboyfriend: You could use a download manager, or write a bash script.  Both are extremely hard to get the hang of, unfortunately.
[07:20] <main2> with the current nvidia drivers?
[07:20] <anilomkar> no i tried that also but it is not working
[07:20] <FallenHitokiri> main2: yes you can
[07:20] <Tonren> linuxboyfriend: Try asking in #bash or ##linux, but be careful, they're a harsh folk!
[07:21] <Tonren> Hay guys.  I am using bcm43xx native firmware to use my wireless, but in many low-signal locations, Windows can pick up the signal fine, and Linux can't!  Should I try switching to ndiswrapper, or is it unlikely that this will affect my signal pickup ability?
[07:21] <linuxboyfriend> ok
[07:21] <FallenHitokiri> anilomkar: what is not working - a little more input please
[07:21] <Onbir> I'm looking for the channel operators of #ubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntu. In #ubuntu-ops, i don't know WHO there is an operator. Also... they don't seem to answer. Anyone?
[07:21] <main2> FallenHitokiri: can you tell me more about it? :-))
[07:21] <JosefK> hmm, wxmaxima keeps losing the connection to Maxima :/
[07:21] <main2> example... what settings should i use for the monitor in xorg?
[07:21] <FallenHitokiri> main2: just edit the lines in xorg.conf
[07:21] <main2> to what?
[07:22] <main2> FallenHitokiri: i know how xorg.confs work, but i dont know what settings to use for the tft
[07:22] <morrye> Is there a way to partition a disk through the terminal?
[07:22] <WRFC_Rabbit> how do i configure wine??
[07:22] <FallenHitokiri> main2: blitz@Sara:~ # cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep 1680x1050       Modes       "1680x1050"
[07:22] <main2> ive added it, but it did not work..
[07:22] <Somniis> WRFC_Rabbit: winecfg in terminal
[07:22] <WRFC_Rabbit> ty
[07:22] <FallenHitokiri> main2: wait a moment
[07:22] <Tonren> morrye: Indeed there is.  Type "man makefs" to get your learn on.
[07:22] <main2> because i dont know what device monitor settings to use
[07:22] <main2> ok
[07:22] <anilomkar> FallenHitokiri, i searched for driver for my card but i didn't found
[07:23] <cbeck20> does anyone know how to update your kernel to 2.6.17?
[07:23] <anilomkar> FallenHitokiri, when i tried lspci -i that is showing that Unknown Device
[07:23] <cbeck20> for amd64
[07:23] <FallenHitokiri> main2: http://rafb.net/paste/results/yPOjbH93.html
[07:23] <main2> thank you FallenHitokiri :- ))
[07:24] <FallenHitokiri> main2: search for screen
[07:24] <morrye> Tonren: That didn't work, could you tell me the command please?
[07:24] <FallenHitokiri> main2: starting at 419
[07:24] <Tonren> morrye: Oh snap.  Sorry.  One sec...
[07:24] <Tonren> morrye: OK my bad, it's "mkfs" not "makefs"
[07:25] <Diego> Blah, my md5 sums are wrong. Torrent downloaded wrong. :/
[07:25] <Diego> How long do the CDs take to ship, usually?
[07:25] <WRFC_Rabbit> anyone know if it is possible to play conquer online through UBUNTU?
[07:26] <erUSUL> !fuse
[07:26] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:26] <LinAsH> cbeck20, in Dapper ?
[07:26] <oculto_> alguem pode me ajudar aqui?
[07:26] <kromel> any ideas?  alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[07:26] <cbeck20> Linash: yes in Drapper
[07:26] <main2> fallen, thanks a lot mate :-))
[07:26] <FallenHitokiri> ubotu: why should it be unsafe to write on ntfs - you only have to use ntfs3g
[07:26] <WRFC_Rabbit> anyone know if it is possible to play conquer online through UBUNTU?
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about why should it be unsafe to write on ntfs - you only have to use ntfs3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <oculto_> como eu posso customizar a conexao com internet no unbuntu?
[07:28] <Tonren> FallenHitokiri: ubotu is a robot
[07:28] <oculto_> Tonren,  como eu posso customizar a conexao com internet no unbuntu?
[07:29] <sharms> !es
[07:29] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:29] <|freaky|> erUSUL: i would just like to copy the info that is on a ntfs drive. copy it to my linux drive and reformat that drive to a linux partition
[07:29] <cbeck20> I need the linux kernel 2.6.17 in Drapper to be able to install bcm43xx card I have
[07:29] <|freaky|> erUSUL: since i no longer have windows at all
[07:29] <Tonren> sharms: I'm pretty sure he's actually speaking Portuguese.  What's the two-letter thingie for that?
[07:30] <Diego> .pt or .br
[07:30] <andresmarin> ola
[07:30] <cbeck20> I don't know if this command will work "sudo apt-get install-source-2.6.17?
[07:30] <dk06> it should work
[07:30] <Diego> The language is .pt, but most speakers online are .br
[07:30] <andresmarin> abla en espanis
[07:30] <Tonren> oculto_: lo siento, pero solamente puedo hablar espanol.  en este quarto, solamente hablamos ingles para ayudarse.
[07:30] <ladydoor> !es
[07:31] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:31] <sharms> !br
[07:31] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[07:31] <Tonren> sharms: good show
[07:31] <eracc> Oh, bad. Installed fluxbox and had NO MENUS with RMB click. Had to switch to console, killall fluxbox and run 'update-menus' myself. Ick.
[07:31] <Tonren> eracc: That's hardcore
[07:31] <xerux> How can I install ubuntu without the GTK program ?
[07:32] <xerux> the old way
[07:32] <erUSUL> |freaky|: i used ubotu for my own purposes. i should have msged though. sorry for the confusion
[07:32] <LinAsH> cbeck20, it's at your own risk put you might try to put 'deb ftp://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main' in your /etc/apt/source.list then 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic' then remove the line from your source.list quickly!
[07:32] <eracc> linuxboyfriend, wget can save web pages or an entire web site for you.
[07:33] <cbeck20> ok I'll get that a shot
[07:33] <Tonren> xerux: You can use a server install CD
[07:33] <xerux> Is it possible to install ubuntu the old way ?
[07:33] <Tonren> xerux: Then, at your liesure, run sudo aptitude install gnome-desktop
[07:33] <xerux> Tonren: hmm..
[07:33] <Tonren> xerux: err... ubuntu-desktop
[07:33] <linuxboyfriend> eracc: i only want some sequence of pages, not entire site
[07:33] <eracc> Tonren, well, at least I knew what to do, eh? ;-)
[07:34] <Tonren> eracc: for serious
[07:34] <Tonren> xerux: protip: Wait longer before repeating your question.  i started typing as soon as i saw your message but you still repeated before I answered.  :\
[07:34] <xerux> Tonren: sorry.
[07:35] <eracc> linuxboyfriend, are all those pages off one page? If so you can tell wget to get everything off that one page then delete what you don't want.
[07:35] <KenSentMe> Is there a major difference between the 386 and 686 kernel in performance?
[07:35] <Tonren> xerux: It happens
[07:35] <Tonren> Hay guys.  I am using bcm43xx native firmware to use my wireless, but in many low-signal locations, Windows can pick up the signal fine, and Linux can't!  Should I try switching to ndiswrapper, or is it unlikely that this will affect my signal pickup ability?
[07:35] <linuxboyfriend> eracc: how?
[07:35] <xerux> Tonren: yeah, well, I do some tech-support on efnet and I know it can be annoying.
[07:35] <eracc> linuxboyfriend, or you could loop through a bash script and grab the pages. That is a little more effort but doable.
[07:36] <Tonren> eracc: Do you know if globbing works with wget/curl URLs?
[07:36] <xerux> Thanx.
[07:36] <Tonren> xerux: ahh.  hehe, np.
[07:36] <linuxboyfriend> eracc: i will be thankful if u guide me
[07:36] <lightseed> hi
[07:37] <tucoz> wouldn't something like: for i in $(seq 0 100); do wget http://www.web.com/$i; done work?
[07:37] <eracc> linuxboyfriend, heh, I don't know the answer off the top of my head. I just know it can be done because I have done it in the past. I would have to review 'man wget' which is something you can do.
[07:37] <tucoz> in case one could pad 0 to 000 somehow
[07:37] <mcphail> linuxboyfriend: wget http://whatever/{0..1}{0..9}{0..9}.html might do it
[07:37] <eracc> Tonren, globbing will work for FTP with those but not HTML IIRC.
[07:38] <lightseed> how do i get my sound working when it works at start up but not for music
[07:38] <LjL> mcphail: wget expands URLs that way? cool
[07:38] <Tonren> eracc: Doesn't globbing happen on the client side, though?
[07:38] <mcphail> LjL: don't know if whet does, but bash does
[07:38] <Tonren> mcphail: I guess you just answered the question I asked eracc.
[07:38] <LjL> mcphail: ah, well, but bash only know about the files in the current path.....
[07:38] <Tonren> linuxboyfriend: for more info on the technique that mcphail just gave you, type "man glob"
[07:38] <Tonren> LjL: True, but it can still count from 0 to 9, etc.
[07:38] <KenSentMe> !kernel
[07:38] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:38] <maryham> hello to all
[07:39] <maryham> Problem with samba and swat
[07:39] <harisund> linuxboyfriend: what kind of globbing are you looking at?
[07:39] <LjL> Tonren: that's true as well. i actually thought it would only expand to stuff that actually exists in the path
[07:39] <mcphail> actually, i suppose the first {0..1} is overkill. That will end up globbing everything up to 199
[07:39] <Tonren> LjL: I was wondering about that myself.
[07:39] <maryham> when I am trying to update my system I receive error 102
[07:39] <eracc> Tonren, I was thinking of * globbing though. The info put up there by mcphail might work. I've never tried that.
[07:39] <Tonren> eracc: It's cool; it works!
[07:40] <LjL> Tonren: well, your command line does work though, so i guess the answer is no
[07:40] <Tonren> LjL: What do you mean by that...?
[07:40] <LinAsH> xerux, did you get your answer ?
[07:41] <LjL> Tonren: i mean that "wget http://whatever/{0..1}{0..9}{0..9}.html" works (sorry though, i said "your" but it's mcphail who gave that), so it must means that bash doesn't really care about filenames, in this instance
[07:41] <kromel> any ideas?  alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[07:41] <LjL> Tonren: (and it still works if you use, say, "echo" rather than "wget", so it's not wget doing that)
[07:41] <mcphail> LjL: you aren't globbing filenames - the {} just makes a range
[07:42] <morrye> How is java installed on ubuntu?
[07:42] <Tonren> LjL: Right.  Like mcphail said, wget doesn't glob, bash does
[07:42] <UKMatt> Is there anything extra I have to do to configure a Mic?
[07:42] <Tonren> !java
[07:42] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:42] <LjL> mcphail: right -- but i believed that, in any case, bash would only allow that sort of "pseudo-regexps" when they ended up corresponding to filenames. i was mistaken.
[07:42] <Tonren> morrye: Listen to ubotu; h eknows his shit.
[07:42] <schizoschaf> hi. was knnte das problem sein, wenn ekiga beim verbinden wegen problemen beendet?
[07:42] <LjL> !dew
[07:42] <LjL> !de
[07:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dew - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:42] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:42] <mcphail> LjL: bash is full of surprises!
[07:42] <LjL> mcphail: heh
[07:42] <schizoschaf> auf beiden seiten scheint alles zu funktionieren
[07:43] <Tonren> Freaking language codes.  "German," I thought.  "German... is that 'ge'?"
[07:43] <morrye> Tonren: How do I do that?
[07:43] <LjL> Tonren: "Deutsch" is the German for German ;)
[07:43] <Tonren> morrye: Just visit the URL that ubotu just said.
[07:43] <schizoschaf> argh... my bad :)
[07:43] <Tonren> LjL: I know, I know... I just think that everyone should cater to my assumptions, is all
[07:43] <morrye> Tonren: he told me nothing
[07:43] <morrye> it*
[07:43] <Tonren> !java > morrye
[07:43] <morrye> thanks
[07:44] <schizoschaf> what might be the problem if ekiga stops connecting with an error, while settings on both sides seem top be ok?
[07:44] <Tonren> morrye: np
[07:44] <Tonren> schizoschaf: Spawn more overlords.
[07:44] <LjL> schizoschaf: never used ekiga to tell the truth, but perhaps you (or the other peer) are behind a NAT or some other sort of firewall?
[07:44] <schizoschaf> Tonren, lol
[07:45] <Tonren> gotta run guys
[07:45] <Tonren> ADIOS
[07:45] <schizoschaf> LjL, it has detected my NAT
[07:45] <schizoschaf> and says NAT is ok
[07:46] <lightseed> how do i get my sound card working for apps. it worked with the x startup sounds
[07:46] <LjL> schizoschaf: ok, well, was just a thought... i'd install ekiga and try tinkering, but it's kind of big =)
[07:46] <erUSUL> !sound
[07:46] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[07:47] <surlaw> Tonren: don't u know any linux distrib that can make the wifi work without hours and hours of forum read and thousands of commands ? like suse or mandriva or linspire or i don't know ? coz im really getting tired of this i really new to linux, and install ndiswrapper, get packages, update kernel to get firmwares and such are just too complicated for me :/
[07:47] <surlaw> Tonren : i tried debian, gentoo, ubuntu and redhat so far
[07:47] <LjL> surlaw: Tonren has left
[07:48] <miremo> ola
[07:48] <miremo> k tal
[07:48] <surlaw> yeah alright just just waw it =) im jus making myself stupid ^^
[07:48] <surlaw> saw*
[07:48] <surlaw> damn linux never works whatever the distrib, really getting tired of this :/
[07:49] <trianglemanwins> greetings.  I can't find Synaptic Package Manager!
[07:49] <LjL> surlaw: oh well, with the amount of traffic there is in here, it's easy to miss joins and parts... anyway, all i can say is that AFAIK most linux distros aren't very smooth with wireless, right now. but i don't really know.
[07:50] <philc> "update-rc.d foobar defaults" will have foobar start when the computer boots?
[07:50] <LjL> surlaw, linux works, the problem is that drivers for certain kind of stuff are hard to write and to keep up with. (especially when manufacturers don't give out the specs...)
[07:50] <KenSentMe> Is there a major difference between the 386 and 686 kernel in performance?
[07:50] <ivaldi> trianglemanwins: isn't it in System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager ?
[07:50] <LjL> KenSentMe: major, definitely not. installing the "best" kernel shouldn't hurt, though.
[07:51] <inimesekene> how can i monitor my NB temperature?
[07:51] <surlaw> LjL: yeah i find that really crazy, i mean so much distribs are made for noob to be able to get to linux smoothly, but its impossible to make wifi work fine even after hours of search... and what can you do with linux without internet .. totally useless :/
[07:51] <trianglemanwins> is it because i'm logged in as root?
[07:51] <UKMatt> I have a quick non-ubuntu question for anyone, I know for bittorrent you need to seed AND leach, how is it that you seed, is there a program that I keep open?
[07:51] <ivaldi> trianglemanwins: the user you're logged in as has to belong to the "admin" group, in order for synaptic to show up
[07:51] <trianglemanwins> msg ivaldi do you get these kinds of messages? i'm new to irc
[07:52] <schizoschaf> anyone here who actually uses ekiga?
[07:52] <Dr_willis> UKMatt,  once you download the  torrent files.  you just stay connected after you get 100%
[07:52] <UKMatt> Dr_willis, oh ok cool, so nothing I need to do
[07:52] <LjL> surlaw: i know, but the distro makers, and driver developers, do what they can...
[07:52] <Dr_willis> UKMatt,  just let it run for a few weeks. :P
[07:52] <inimesekene> how can i monitor my NB temperature?
[07:53] <Dr_willis> !info lm-sensors
[07:53] <ubotu> lm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.9.2-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 463 kB, installed size 1452 kB
[07:55] <theclaw> hi
[07:55] <surlaw> LjL: yeah i know, you have any idea where i could find help with that ? i spent hours on irc posted so much on forums, but id need someone knowing wifi spending like 3-4 hours straight helping me out and i think it'll work :D know any place with such nice guys around ? lol
[07:55] <Celeste> hi
[07:55] <theclaw> aren't there any packages fr kernel 2.6.18 in ubuntu?
[07:55] <Dr_willis> theclaw,  not for Dapper that I know of.
[07:55] <aliendream23> hello, if I have a folder with dvd9 video files, how do I shrink that down to dvd5 size files without wine and dvdshrink?
[07:55] <Dr_willis> theclaw,  not sure what edgy is using.
[07:56] <trianglemanwins> can root access Synaptic Package Manager?
[07:56] <trianglemanwins> or rather should root be able to
[07:56] <Dr_willis> trianglemanwins,  yes.
[07:56] <theclaw> Dr_willis: okay
[07:56] <theclaw> thx
[07:57] <scheuri> hi all
[07:57] <LjL> surlaw: here, if you're lucky... myself, i'm definitely all wired :)
[07:57] <TheGateKeeper_> trianglemanwins: gksudo synaptic
[07:58] <scheuri> I have a (probably quite stupid) question...its about different user/accounts on a machine...one accounts should be able to use application X, some don't...how do I actually do that? (OOo for example, john may use it, but henry may not)
[07:58] <theclaw> cu
[07:59] <CrimsonKing> does ubuntu not have a wheel group?
[08:00] <trianglemanwins> i don't think anyone gets my personal messages
[08:00] <mbvo> I'm trying to install jre but when i type in "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre" it tells me it can't find the package
[08:00] <nodo> hello
[08:00] <nodo> i m running
[08:00] <bluefox83> you might try apt-cache search java and find the real name of the package
[08:00] <nodo> ubuntu and would like to install firefox (latest version)
[08:00] <nodo> what can i do?
[08:01] <nodo> !firefox
[08:01] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[08:01] <TheGateKeeper_> mbvo: you need to enable multiverse
[08:01] <eracc> CrimsonKing, the first user added to the system has sudo access to all commands.
[08:01] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: there is one, but admin is the group associated with sudo
[08:01] <trianglemanwins> how can i send personal messages?
[08:01] <eracc> Just add another sudoer.
[08:01] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: just kidding...there isn't one
[08:01] <nodo> ladydoor:  TheGateKeeper_  BlueEagle
[08:01] <nodo> pls help
[08:01] <scheuri> ladydoor: so whats wheel for gentoo, is admin for ubuntu (easily put), right?
[08:01] <CrimsonKing> ladydoor: ah, so who  has rights to su?
[08:01] <shwag> how can i find out what the dependencies are one  apt-get install rails
[08:02] <ladydoor> scheuri: i think so.
[08:02] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: i *think* it's people in the admin group.
[08:02] <mbvo> what is multiverse and how do i enable it?
[08:02] <ladydoor> !repositories
[08:02] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:02] <ladydoor> mbvo: ^^^
[08:02] <CrimsonKing> ladydoor: i'm still pokign the hell out of that box btw, i've compiled tcl and expat through a 'plugin' in a web forum i run
[08:02] <CrimsonKing> *expect
[08:02] <nodo> ladydoor:  what version of firefox do you use?
[08:02] <scheuri> ladydoor: on the other hand...as it is SUDO, you may need to edit the config file in /etc for sudo...sudousers or something
[08:02] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: yikes...good luck
[08:02] <CrimsonKing> and now have an expect script to su to my user, but from here i am kind of stalled
[08:02] <TheGateKeeper_> scheuri: I don't know the answer to your question, only an idea, modify the group that startx command belongs to, and only put the people you want in that group
[08:03] <CrimsonKing> i'm just trying to find out who has rights to root
[08:03] <ladydoor> nodo: 1.5.0.7
[08:03] <ckoehler> I want to install a newer version of logwatch, but the newest is not available in the dapper repos, only edgy
[08:03] <ckoehler> would it be possible to use the edgy one?
[08:03] <ladydoor> scheuri: sudoers
[08:03] <scheuri> TheGateKeeper_: thanks for your answer...well...its not X (Window) I am actually talking about (sorry, my bad)...I am talking about applications in general (such as OOo, KMail and such)
[08:03] <eracc> CrimsonKing, the first user added to the system has sudo access to all commands. (effectivley is "root" for the box)
[08:03] <ckoehler> it's just a bunch of perl scripts
[08:03] <scheuri> ladydoor: ah, yes, indeed
[08:03] <ladydoor> ckoehler: just compile from source
[08:03] <CrimsonKing> okay, so their is an 'admin' user in debian?
[08:03] <nodo> ladydoor:  how can i install that version of firefox on my ubuntu?
[08:04] <ladydoor> ckoehler: much more stable
[08:04] <ckoehler> ladydoor, it's perl though, I didn't think you need to compile that
[08:04] <ckoehler> so it's just copying stuff over huh
[08:04] <CrimsonKing> eracc: what is the 'admin' user?
[08:04] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: errr...ubuntu does not equal debian. they're different OS's. and admin is a group (less /etc/group|less admin)
[08:04] <nodo> ladydoor:  how can i install that version of firefox on my ubuntu?
[08:04] <eracc> CrimsonKing, the very first user added to the box.
[08:05] <CrimsonKing> i didn't do the install
[08:05] <CrimsonKing> it came with the server
[08:05] <TheGateKeeper_> !repos > mbvo
[08:05] <Focuz> hello all!
[08:05] <ladydoor> ckoehler: ok, do whatever you do with perl source. it's not a good idea to install development repos--especially if you're not actually using the development release.
[08:05] <ckoehler> ladydoor, yeah didn't really want to do that, just want that one app
[08:05] <ladydoor> nodo: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade should do the trick if firefox is already installed...
[08:05] <TheGateKeeper_> mbvo: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[08:05] <eracc> CrimsonKing, how do you login to the box then?
[08:05] <ckoehler> ladydoor, so thanks, will do that :)
[08:05] <CrimsonKing> eracc: i used to ssh in as root when i needed root
[08:06] <ladydoor> ckoehler: yeah...i'd seriously check the website and find how to install it manually. good luck!
[08:06] <ckoehler> thanks!
[08:06] <CrimsonKing> eracc: but i killed my sshd by accident
[08:06] <eracc> Ack! Never allow root to ssh in! :-p
[08:06] <CrimsonKing> eracc: and are now interacting with the box through a series of php scripts which i inject, and expect to handle su-ing to my regular user
[08:06] <eracc> That can be brute force attacked.
[08:06] <CrimsonKing> eracc: i don't allow password authentication
[08:06] <trappist> eracc: not on ubuntu :)
[08:06] <CrimsonKing> eracc: its key only
[08:06] <CrimsonKing> and yea i run fail2ban
[08:06] <CrimsonKing> which also helps
[08:06] <nodo> ladydoor:  it does not work
[08:06] <eracc> Ah, ok.
[08:06] <nodo> maybe i need a good rep?
[08:06] <nodo> ladydoor:
[08:06] <nodo> ?
[08:06] <scheuri> trappist: if you have set a password for root, it is possible...:)
[08:07] <ladydoor> nodo: does it spit out an error? if it's long, paste it in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:07] <mbvo> is there a simple way to install jre without errors?
[08:07] <trappist> scheuri: yes.  that would suck.
[08:07] <sarikan> hi, can i configure the console resolution to 1440*900
[08:07] <trappist> mbvo: add your extra repos and say sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[08:07] <errpast-wc> I've used "Easy Ubuntu" with 6.06 and still can't get sound on Flash.  Pic is fine
[08:07] <scheuri> trappist: well, I do that too, sometimes....some people like to have root...and sometimes it is a security risk to have sudoers
[08:08] <nevermind85> hi all
[08:08] <Focuz> hello nevermind85
[08:08] <trappist> scheuri: it's a security risk to have an account with root privileges.  at least with sudoers, if something went wrong, you know who did it.
[08:08] <pradeep> hi nevermind85
[08:08] <nevermind85> i got a problem with fstab and smbfs, anyone can help me?
[08:08] <TheGateKeeper_> mbvo: use the url I gave you
[08:08] <Focuz> mmm
[08:08] <scheuri> trappist: true...but if the account with sudo-priviliges has a weak password....well....
[08:08] <ladydoor> nodo: (and then tell me the url pastebin gives you)
[08:08] <Focuz> nevermind85: sorry
[08:09] <scheuri> trappist: and I am taking about the one which comes with the first install (which has ALL rights root has)
[08:09] <trappist> scheuri: then you shouldn't be allowed near a computer, and you're just as likely to give root a bad password
[08:09] <nevermind85> the thing is that i'm mountnig as local a drive in another pc, but i don't seem to be able to get rw permissions
[08:09] <LjL> scheuri: well, same can be said for the root password. of course, you'll say, "the root user will be smart enough to use a decent password!", but then same should apply for any sudoers, shouldn't it
[08:09] <scheuri> trappist LjL....yes...that is why I said it MIGHT be also risky having sudoers...:)
[08:10] <LjL> scheuri: of course - having a computer connected itself *is* risky ;)
[08:10] <jharr> When I build a custom installer (I'm using a local mirror), can I just remove most of the packages from the CD to make the ISO smaller?
[08:10] <scheuri> trappist and LjL...sudoers alone does not make a machine more secure...it is ALWAYS the password (as well)
[08:10] <LjL> scheuri: you're right, they don't. but they do tend to make users get better habits (like, for instance, not staying root all the time)
[08:11] <stu_> easiest way to burn an ISO ?
[08:11] <scheuri> LjL: oh well...that is indeed true...;)...but well, can't help it anyway to connect that piece of plastic and silicon
[08:11] <LjL> scheuri: i'm talking about myself, too, here -- on the box where i don't use sudo, i actually use root a lot more than i should. here, not.
[08:11] <shwag> how do I do a COMPLETE removal...including deps.
[08:11] <scheuri> LjL: there...I do absolutely agree
[08:11] <trappist> scheuri: honestly, I do key-only ssh then do ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL in sudoers
[08:11] <shwag> or how do I remove unused dependencies.
[08:11] <sarikan> umm, any ideas about configuring the console for 1440*900 ?
[08:11] <trianglemanwins> anyone know how to get mp3 playback with amaroK
[08:11] <nodo> ladydoor:  my firefox version is 1.0.5.4
[08:11] <scheuri> trappist: well, that is another story...not many people do this (and I am not judging now that they should or not. etc.)
[08:12] <trappist> shwag: debfoster
[08:12] <stu_> trianglemanwins: install gstreamer dirty codecs
[08:12] <scheuri> correction...not many normal users do this
[08:12] <nodo> ladydoor:  if i give the command upgrade it says me to dl 250 megs
[08:12] <LjL> shwag: you can use debfoster or orphaner. however, if you install stuff using aptitude rather than apt-get, dependencies will be removed automatically when you uninstall
[08:12] <jharr> shwag: I don't know of a good way off the top of my head, but you can install deborphan from universe to see what dependencies aren't needed
[08:12] <stu_> someone, I need to burn an ISO ? what app ?
[08:12] <nodo> i do not want to do that!
[08:12] <nodo> ladydoor:  have no sapce
[08:12] <nexeus> hi there
[08:12] <trappist> scheuri: that's good, because most "normal" users are happy to throw any and all security out the door in the name of convenience
[08:12] <tm> hi
[08:13] <nexeus> hving problem with vmware server any1 help plz
[08:13] <scheuri> trappist: I know...that bothers me...but still...it is just how it works...:(
[08:13] <ladydoor> nodo: ok, then the problem is that you have a) too many unneccessary packages installed or b) too many random files. if you do the command df -h, you can see just how much space you have left
[08:13] <ladydoor> nodo: one thing you could do is archive rarely-accessed files
[08:13] <ladydoor> nodo: another is delete things you no longer use
[08:13] <trappist> scheuri: in the end you can't bottle security.  it's in the hands of the user/admin.
[08:13] <scheuri> I have a (probably quite stupid) question...its about different user/accounts on a machine...some accounts should be able to use application XYZ, some don't...how do I actually do that? (OOo for example, "john" may use it, but "henry" may not)
[08:14] <ladydoor> nodo: you might also run the command sudo apt-get autoclean to free some space
[08:14] <ladydoor> nodo: does any of that help?
[08:14] <nexeus> having problem with vmware server any1 help plz
[08:14] <scheuri> trappist: indeed...that is where teaching comes into play
[08:14] <LjL> trappist: well, *some* convenience in spite of security is understandable, in my opinion. where exactly you draw the line of course can be a matter of personal judgement
[08:14] <trappist> scheuri: make a group called, say, oousers, and make the oo apps executable only by them
[08:14] <tm> scheuri: use ACL?
[08:14] <nodo> ladydoor:  20 mb free
[08:14] <nodo> only
[08:14] <nodo> !!
[08:14] <trianglemanwins> how do i send personal messages?
[08:14] <ardchoille> Well, security is NOT a destination, it's an ongoing process.
[08:14] <scheuri> tm: thought about that, but somehow it seems too much of a hassle just for this...
[08:14] <ladydoor> nodo: ok, so please try some of the things that i suggested just above here.
[08:14] <trappist> LjL: sure, security is a tradeoff.  how much convenience is worth how much security etc.  but most people don't think like that.
[08:15] <mbvo> It seemed to install the packages fine but i can't run limewire, it's telling me that jre's not installed
[08:15] <ladydoor> trianglemanwins: you need to register your nick. go to freenode's website for instructions as to how.
[08:15] <TIM90> Dose any one know why my built in Ethernet is not working (eth0)
[08:15] <scheuri> trappist: aye...thought about that too...probably "easiest" way
[08:15] <nodo> sudo apt-get autoclean run but still 20 megs free ladydoor
[08:15] <nodo> !!
[08:15] <ilgrim> hi
[08:15] <stu_> TIM90: not sure who told that this is a psychic channel but they were wrong
[08:15] <scheuri> trappist: however, it means that I need to regroup ALL applications which somehow are affected by my rules
[08:16] <nexeus>  Virtual ethernet failed on config for vmware
[08:16] <scheuri> guess I need to go into ACL anyway
[08:16] <nexeus> help plz
[08:16] <scheuri> nexeus: what is the exact error message?
[08:16] <TIM90> could you pls tell me were to go
[08:16] <P4W3R> hi
[08:16] <Bohic1> Has anyone installed kismet via the archives?
[08:16] <nexeus> it ask met ot run /vmware-config.pl for config
[08:16] <P4W3R> how can i run base-config?
[08:17] <scheuri> TIM90: "not working" does not help us at all...
[08:17] <stu_> TIM90: this is probably the right place but you have to give a bit more info than "it doesnt work"
[08:17] <Nelo> nexeus u probably upgraded to a new kernel. VMware does not like that.
[08:17] <P4W3R> how can i run base-config?
[08:17] <sureshot> can someone tell me how to turn off the blurps of who joins and leaves this channel
[08:17] <scheuri> TIM90: please try to be more specific...does it get an IP or not?
[08:17] <ladydoor> nodo: right, so delete some of the crap that's taking up room on your harddrive. common sense--if you have no room, it won't magically appear; you need to make room. i assume your /home is not on a separate partition (if you don't know what i'm talking about, then it's not on a separate partition)
[08:17] <nexeus> then gives virtual ethernet fail
[08:17] <trappist> scheuri: I've only ever bothered with that for gcc, which once saved me from getting hit by the slapper worm, since my openssl was out of date and I had gcc on a webserver, both of which were bad.  but chmodding gcc kept me from getting nailed.
[08:17] <nodo> ladydoor:  i have only 2 parts
[08:18] <mon^rch> no java on the edgy repo's???
[08:18] <P4W3R> i dboostraped and installed ubuntu with dmraid on a via raid
[08:18] <nexeus> yeah i did upgrade but the new linux header is installed as well
[08:18] <P4W3R> but base-config is missing and i can not install it
[08:18] <TIM90> no, it gets an ip of 169 when i plug my broadband in it (trying to make a network)
[08:18] <ladydoor> nodo: ok, yes or no (i don't have much time to be patient):  is your /home on a separate partition from /?
[08:18] <Nelo> nexeus I had the same error. run the config again and it works :)
[08:18] <scheuri> trappist: aye....sounds good....its just that I am about to set up a machine used in a library by guests (for surfing and printing only) and their employes (for mailing with clients and OOo as well)
[08:18] <nexeus> third time try lol
[08:18] <scheuri> trappist: in a library used by guests
[08:19] <scheuri> nexeus: vmware does remember your network-config...it should not take liong
[08:19] <scheuri> long
[08:19] <Stromstedt> Hello
[08:19] <sureshot> can someone tell me how to turn off the blurps of who joins and leaves this channel
[08:19] <Nelo> nexeus people tell me that there is vm file that needs to be modified so it does not do this with a new kernel
[08:19] <nexeus> still same is it because i have vmplayer install
[08:20] <ladydoor> nodo: if you don't know, then the correct answer is no
[08:20] <nexeus> well i did try to delete  /etc/vmware and reinstall
[08:20] <nexeus> same prob
[08:21] <scheuri> nexeus: you should deinstall...not only delete it
[08:21] <trianglemanwins> anyone know about mp3 playback with amaroK?
[08:21] <Bohic1> Am REAL new to this...what security issues to think about here???
[08:21] <nexeus> sudo: /usr/bin/vmware/vmware-uninstall.pl: command not found
[08:21] <TIM90> i just need to get this Ethernet port working,i can do the rest of the network my self,It does light up when i stick the cable in (Ethe0)
[08:21] <scheuri> trianglemanwins: I dont know if anyone here knows or not, but there is a special channel for amarok as far as I know
[08:22] <scheuri> nexeus: try to locate it...it happend to me once as well
[08:22] <ladydoor> nodo: ok! time's up. i've got to go. good luck.
[08:22] <nexeus> ok
[08:22] <nexeus> thanx
[08:22] <sureshot> can someone tell me how to turn off the blurps of who joins and leaves this channel
[08:22] <SpComb> use irssi!
[08:22] <P4W3R> hi
[08:23] <P4W3R> i can not apt base-config
[08:23] <factotum> heh im using irssi and i still see who comes and goes
[08:23] <shwag> can someone do sudo apt-get install rails --dry-run   and just tell me what the dependencies are. i want to make sure I got everything out.
[08:23] <P4W3R> dependeces errors
[08:23] <pchamorro> I'm installing drapper in normal mode, but it'seems the mirrors are down!
[08:23] <SpComb> factotum: I assume blurps to mean sound effects
[08:23] <Nelo> P4W3R is tehre a way to turn of the colors of irssi?
[08:23] <factotum> pchamorro: drapper is outdated, try dapper instead
[08:23] <P4W3R> do not know
[08:23] <factotum> SpComb: sound effects? ick!
[08:24] <pchamorro> I mean ubuntu 6.06
[08:24] <sureshot> no how comes in and who leaves i dont need to know all that
[08:24] <scheuri> pchamorro: can you ping anything?
[08:24] <pchamorro> ping is not included
[08:24] <pchamorro> but i can wget http://google.com and it works
[08:24] <TIM90>  stu_can you help or not
[08:24] <esa> hi! can i ask one question about Evolution e-mail?
[08:25] <scheuri> pchamorro: uhmm...ping is not included and wget is? wow...didnt know that...
[08:25] <TIM90> yes esa
[08:25] <pchamorro> but wget http://archive.ubuntu.com doesn't work (i dont remeber the exact mirror servername)
[08:25] <esa> i have problem with scandinavian characters
[08:25] <esa> they are just missing
[08:25] <Splintist> !multimedia
[08:25] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[08:25] <TIM90> i cant help with that srry
[08:26] <scheuri> pchamorro: for me they seem to work actually
[08:26] <scheuri> pchamorro: I can browse it
[08:26] <mart_> hi, has anyone sucessfully install gnucash on ubuntu dapper?
[08:26] <surlaw> Anyone knows why i can see my wireless network under eth1 with iwconfig (and eth0 and lo too), but ifconfig doesnt chos abything except lo ? =)
[08:26] <surlaw> shows*
[08:26] <Bohic1> using 6.06LTS trying to get kismet working....????
[08:27] <mart_> im having problems with ./configure says cannot find SLIB are you sure you have it installed
[08:27] <steve_333> Is someone willing to try a question about cups, or point me in the right direction?
[08:27] <scheuri> Bohic1: may you please ask in a proper sentence?
[08:27] <TIM90> is it possible to have more then 1 Ethernet port ,or does it create conflict
[08:27] <proteus> guys i toasted something.. it started with me editing my prefs.js for firefox, i closed the browser and attempted to start it up, and nothing happened.. after that i cp'd the file to another dir, and then deleted the file from it's original residence. and to no avail did firefox start up, so i decided to log out and back in, and nothing loads up, it get kicked back to the login screen...
[08:28] <pchamorro> my display seems freezed but not, only is having problems with the mirrors :(
[08:28] <Yaakov> TIM90: It is common.
[08:28] <bluefox83> hey, is edgy the most up do date release of ubuntu, or is dapper?
[08:28] <bluefox83> *to
[08:28] <Bohic1> I am using ubuntu 6.06 LTS and have d/loaded kismet, installedbut won't write to dir to start up
[08:28] <shwag> bluefox83: edgy installer completely failed for me, so i am on dapper
[08:28] <bluefox83> cus i'm finding the latest release of amarok in edgey but not dapper
[08:28] <scheuri> bluefox83: dapper (ubuntu 6.06 LTS) is the latest stable version...edgy is testing version (and will be released as stable soon)
[08:29] <bluefox83> shwag, congradulations...that doesn't answer my question
[08:29] <bluefox83> oh crap >.>
[08:29] <proteus> i even did a update and dist-upgrade, and i'm stuck here..
[08:29] <TIM90> it seems ubuntu has a problem with drivers for built in Ethernet ports ,it this common
[08:29] <mart_> bluefox im on dapper, and i apt-get installed amarok
[08:29] <bluefox83> i seem to have a version of amarok installed that is not in dapper
[08:29] <gfxstyler> hi
[08:29] <scheuri> bluefox83: how did you install it?
[08:30] <bluefox83> TIM90, forget to 'modprobe <module>' ?
[08:30] <niklas_e> is there any newer version of qemu then 0.80.0 that I can install with apt-get?
[08:30] <bluefox83> scheuri, i don't remember :/
[08:30] <shwag> bluefox83: get a cvs livecd smarty
[08:31] <TIM90> Yaakov one ethernet works perfectly yet the built in one does not ,what could be the problem
[08:31] <scheuri> bluefox83: then it might get difficult to help...www.kubuntu.org sometimes offers new versions of amarok for dapper by telling you what to add in your /etc/apt/sources.list and updating your machine...did you do this?
[08:31] <Yaakov> TIM90: Usually the hardware is not being recognized properly.
[08:31] <pchamorro> scheuri: I mean, ping is not installed yet, wget is.
[08:31] <Bohic1> scheuri am real new to this...what security issues to check for using Gaim???
[08:31] <scheuri> pchamorro: I see...hmmm...
[08:31] <bluefox83> scheuri, i don't have the entry in my sources.list so no..
[08:31] <TIM90> Yeh i think that the problem
[08:31] <bluefox83> and yet i have the most up to date version
[08:32] <bluefox83> i'm not sure how that happened :X
[08:32] <scheuri> Bohic1: I am sorry...I fail to grasp the connection of kismet and gaim....
[08:32] <TIM90> what i did was install a new Ethernet card on the PCI bus ,but it doesn't show up on the Ethernet list
[08:32] <scheuri> bluefox83: well, okay...one way would be to purge amarok and reinstall it...but...well...that is windows-way...but as long as you dont know how you installed it...
[08:33] <bluefox83> in the mean time, how do you turn off the splash screen? my friend wants to kill it
[08:33] <steve_333> anyone know cups remote admin?
[08:33] <Fysidiko> Can anyone explain how to use /etc/sudoers to let a (non-root) user run tuncfg?
[08:33] <jharr> TIM90: run `dmesg | grep eth` and see if it shows anything
[08:33] <nodo> !firefox
[08:33] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[08:33] <Bohic1> scheuri 2 seperate questions last time I used unix/linux was xenix 286
[08:33] <kmaynard> automatix ftw
[08:33] <bluefox83> scheuri, i'm not the one with issues..my friend purged his old 1.4 copy accidentally..and now he's trying to get another copy but we don't remember where i got it from to download in the first place
[08:33] <TIM90> thanks jharr ,ill try that now !
[08:34] <Yaakov> TIM90: If you type dmesg in a shell, and search through the messages, you can see if it was detected..
[08:34] <burbuja> hi
[08:34] <scheuri> Bohic1: aahh..okay....well...as for gaim....just keep updating your machine with security updates...and you should be fine so far...and keep the same rules for mails...delete those who look bad and you dont know
[08:35] <Yaakov> jharr: I missed your message up there, too distracted.
[08:35] <scheuri> bluefox83: well, amarok is in the official repositories of Kubuntu (which can be mixed with ubuntu repos, no worries)...so check www.kubuntu.org what to add to your sources.list to get the latest amarok for dapper
[08:35] <andred> How can I enable a non-UTF-8 locale in Ubuntu, such as ISO-8859-1?
[08:35] <TIM90> [17179586.272000]  eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xe09e6000, 00:10:a7:09:15:1d, IRQ 209
[08:35] <TIM90> [17179586.272000]  eth0:  Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8139C'
[08:35] <TIM90> [17179586.272000]  eth1: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xe09fc000, 00:10:a7:09:2f:31, IRQ 169
[08:35] <TIM90> [17179586.272000]  eth1:  Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8139C'
[08:35] <TIM90> [17179586.332000]  eth2: IC Plus Corporation IP100A FAST Ethernet Adapter at 0001
[08:35] <scheuri> bluefox83: if you added the line to sources.list you just need to "aptitude install amarok" (or using adept)
[08:35] <Blissex> andred: very carefully! :-)
[08:35] <not-a-bot> Hello
[08:35] <schizoschaf^> might skype on another box but over the same router disturb ekiga?
[08:35] <Bohic1> Scheuri, THANKS.....u KNOW of xenix 286???? :)
[08:36] <not-a-bot> Is anyone able to help me with compiz and ubuntu dapper?
[08:36] <Blissex> andred: and depends what you mean by enabling and in which context.
[08:36] <andred> Blissex: Yeah, I don't want to use it generally, just for a specific application by passing LANG=sv_SE.ISO-8859-1
[08:36] <not-a-bot> One of the latest updates broke it for me ...
[08:36] <scheuri> Bohic1: well, I remember MSDOS 3.3...;)...and I had a tandon 286 with 8.5 MHz once...;)
[08:36] <TIM90> its the realtek eth0 i think
[08:36] <Blissex> andred: ahhhh that's easy. Just make sure you got the relevant locale files.
[08:36] <not-a-bot> I'm using the compiz-quinnstorm branch and xgl as session
[08:37] <Blissex> andred: 'locale -a' and 'dpkg-reconfigure locale' or something similar.
[08:37] <TIM90> Yaakov is that any help
[08:37] <Bohic1> scheuri ...started with msdos 2.1 :)
[08:37] <scheuri> Bohic1: arrr...you are older...you win...;)
[08:37] <Blissex> not-a-bot: just don't do it. it is not worth it. you can quit anytime. :-)
[08:37] <leo> salve
[08:37] <DB42> hi, my grub is messed up, how do i know which /dev/sdaX to write in the kernel "root=" line ?
[08:37] <not-a-bot> all the sudden i don't have window decorations any more, no 3d effects ... nothing
[08:37] <pchamorro> I'm testing with wget http://www.ubuntu.com and it works, but wget http://cdimage.ubuntu.com it doesn't
[08:37] <Yaakov> TIM90: It sees the hardware, but apparently is it not loading drivers.  I am too distracted to help just now--sorry.
[08:37] <Blissex> DB42: usually 'fdisk -l /dev/sd*' would tell you something useful.
[08:37] <Bohic1> scheuri iBM PC jr 1983
[08:37] <CrimsonKing> okay!
[08:38] <not-a-bot> Well I DID it for quote a long time and it worked very well
[08:38] <DB42> i dont have access to fdisk
[08:38] <CrimsonKing> does anyone know how i can get ssh to NOT use the inetd wrappers on ubuntu?
[08:38] <pchamorro> Connecting to cdimage.ubuntu.com:80...
[08:38] <Arcad3> exit
[08:38] <DB42> since grub isnt working
[08:38] <bluefox83> how come i just found a ubuntu .deb of amarok 1.4.3 on my system?
[08:38] <andred> Blissex: Yeah, that's how I've done it before in Debian, but running dpkg-reconfigure locales doesn't bring up the config program where you can select the locales, it just generates locales that are chosen from somewhere.
[08:38] <not-a-bot> I just don't now WICH update borke it for me :-(
[08:38] <scheuri> Bohic1: well...not as old as I am...but...;)...started playing games with a C64...but that does not count
[08:38] <shwag> regarding, http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/pages/RailsOnUbuntu,  it says to do a bunch of speacial stuff for /usr/local  install...i skipped that, but it looks like the default is to use /usr/local anyways. does the doc need to be updated, or am I missing something ?
[08:38] <pchamorro> and then wget: server returned error 504: HTTP/1.1 504 Gateway Timeout
[08:38] <nodo> how do i upgrase a single package? (i.e. only firefox one?)
[08:38] <pchamorro> I'm trying from my firewall...
[08:38] <TIM90> Yaakov thanks at-least i know were the problem lies
[08:38] <tr0g> help me please
[08:39] <nodo> how do i upgrase a single package? (i.e. only firefox one?)
[08:39] <C-O-L-T> hello I would like to share some files with a windows network but windows always ask a password and a username, if I type my password and username nothing happens
[08:39] <scheuri> pchamorro: well...I must admit I cant help....I thought of connection problems, but most of your stuff works...right?
[08:39] <tr0g> I am running kubuntu, and i dont have a monitor
[08:39] <tr0g> its black
[08:39] <Blissex> andred: there is a difference between choosing which locales are available (as listed by 'locale -a') and which one is active. What's the problem?
[08:39] <bluefox83> nodo, sudo apt-get install <package>
[08:39] <CrimsonKing> nobody knows how i can run sshd to ignore the hosts.allow/deny files?
[08:39] <Warbo> Which package should I assign a bug to in Launchpad if Nautilus doesn't open sountracker files unless the filename ends with ".mod", ".s3m", ".it", ".xm", etc.? Is it a Nautilus bug or a MIME-info bug or what?
[08:39] <schizoschaf^> tr0g, press ctrl+alt+f1
[08:39] <DB42> Blissex ??
[08:40] <Blissex> CrimsonKing: you don't want to do that, it can be done, but it is complicated.
[08:40] <andred> Blissex: Like I said when I run "dpkg-reconfigure locales" it just starts generating the locales, but I want to select a new locale to generate.
[08:40] <schizoschaf^> tr0g, that will bring you to a text login
[08:40] <DB42> can grub show me the list of /dev/sdaX ??
[08:40] <Blissex> andred: but that also allows you to select which locales it generates.
[08:40] <DB42> not in (hd0,0)
[08:40] <tr0g> Can someone help me
[08:40] <tr0g> please
[08:40] <schizoschaf^> tr0g, see above
[08:41] <andred> Blissex: Aha, but how? It just starts generating right away without showing that dialog window I always used to get in Debian.
[08:41] <CrimsonKing> Blissex: how can i (without root access btw, as a user)
[08:41] <andred> Blissex: Try it yourself and you'll see
[08:41] <Samuli^> best anti-psyware prog I've used is linux.
[08:41] <CrimsonKing> Blissex: its just got to be done
[08:41] <Blissex> andred: ahhhhhhhhh. I can't remember.
[08:41] <Samuli^> spy even :D
[08:41] <tr0g> schiz.. can i pm you
[08:41] <Bohic1> scheuri, am trying to dust off the cobwebs from memory re: irc..coming back S L O W L Y....:)
[08:41] <scheuri> ;)
[08:42] <Blissex> CrimsonKing: easiest way to describe: a 'chroot'. and/or use 'LD_RUN_PATH' and dummy tcpwrapper libraries.
[08:42] <C-O-L-T> hello I would like to share some files with a windows network but windows always ask a password and a username, if I type my password and username nothing happens
[08:42] <andred> Blissex: Aha. Any idea who I should ask about it?
[08:42] <eracc> Hmmm, I'm getting frame errors on my NIC on the xubuntu box. I may have a marginal NIC there. :-(
[08:42] <pchamorro> scheuri: I already installed a workstation ubuntu 6.06 but it seems there is a problem with my internet link
[08:42] <nexeus> scheuri, rebooted and reconfig vmware seems to work fine
[08:43] <scheuri> pchamorro: ummh...
[08:43] <pchamorro> I'm gonna try from a cafe internet... thank you..
[08:43] <scheuri> nexeus: great...
[08:43] <crweb> has anyone else noticed bash scripts no longer seem to work in edgy?
[08:43] <Bohic1> scheuri, remember when a question about unix would elicit a RTFM and nothing more!! ;-)
[08:43] <Blissex> andred: this channel of course :-) Or Google or the Wiki :-).
[08:43] <scheuri> Bohic1: it still does, my friend...it still does...;)
[08:43] <schizoschaf> tr0g, you need to identify to nickserv to send pms
[08:44] <schizoschaf>  /msg NickServ HELP register
[08:44] <schizoschaf> tr0g type /msg NickServ HELP register its easy
[08:45] <Blissex> andred: anyhow have a look at '/etc/locale-gen' and the 'locale-gen' command.
[08:45] <tr0g> oh ok
[08:45] <tr0g> well, in gentoo  i have a login
[08:45] <TIM90> jharr thank for the help
[08:45] <tr0g> i typed admin
[08:45] <tr0g> it wants a password
[08:45] <tr0g> what do I type?
[08:45] <nexeus> !vmware
[08:45] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[08:46] <jharr> TIM90: No problem, you did most of the work :)
[08:46] <andred> Blissex: All right, thanks
[08:46] <TIM90> yeh but you helped me know what the problem was ;)
[08:46] <jharr> Yaakov: yeah, me too :)
[08:47] <Focuz_> hello all
[08:47] <r000t> someone here know how the debian-sys-maint account works in mysql and about the password it has set???
[08:47] <DB42> can grub show me the list of /dev/sdaX ?? not in (hd0,0)
[08:47] <CrimsonKing> Blissex: any tips on creating dummy tcpwrapper libs?
[08:47] <nexeus> !qemu
[08:47] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[08:47] <CrimsonKing> Blissex: or can i build the sshd without tcpwrappers...
[08:47] <optimusprime> how do you uninstall xfce?
[08:48] <Dr_willis> fire up synaptuc and click all the xfce related packages and uninstall them.
[08:48] <r000t> optimusprime: download from xfce home page there is a graphical installer
[08:48] <Mortice> optimusprime: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:48] <TheGateKeeper_> optimusprime: apt-get remove <package name>
[08:48] <Dr_willis> Yes - uninstalling large groups of packages can be a pain.
[08:48] <nexeus> sudo apt-get xubuntu-desktop
[08:48] <morrye> Whats a good editor on ubuntu with nice color coding?
[08:48] <DB42> can grub show me the list of /dev/sdaX ?? not in (hd0,0) (so i know what to put in boot in root= kernel line..) plz.. i need this for linux to run
[08:48] <r000t> morrye: vin
[08:48] <Uriku> I think the cd driver is not well defined =/ can I check it?
[08:48] <nexeus> oups install xubuntu
[08:48] <r000t> morrye: vim
[08:48] <DB42> can grub show me the list of /dev/sdaX ?? not in (hd0,0) (so i know what to put in boot in root= kernel line..)
[08:48] <Blissex> CrimsonKing: then build 'sshd' without tcpwrappers.
[08:49] <Dr_willis> morrye,  vim can do that. :P   You may want to try cream, or some of the emacs.
[08:49] <r000t> someone here know of mysql in ubuntu and the debian-sys-maint account
[08:50] <Uriku> errr... I'm having troubles installing UT2004 on Linux.
[08:50] <sharperguy> How can I get soundconverter to convert to mp3?
[08:51] <Mortice> sharperguy: to convert wavs to mp3? Use LAME.
[08:51] <r000t> noone know anything of mysql in ubuntu and the debian-sys-maint
[08:51] <macsim> hi, any brits with ntl here ?
[08:51] <Dr_willis> r000t,  i dont think anyone knows what you are talking about.
[08:51] <sharperguy> now wav
[08:51] <ivaldi> sharperguy: you have to install a package called gstreamer0.8-lame, iirc
[08:51] <sharperguy> *not wav
[08:51] <sharperguy> ok, ill  try
[08:51] <andred> Blissex: Adding "sv_SE.ISO-8859-1 ISO-8859-1 in the file "/var/lib/locales/supported.d/sv" worked, just for your information.
[08:52] <r000t> Dr_willis: do you know about the default account debian-sys-maint created after installing mysql
[08:52] <schizoschaf> tr0g, any progress?
[08:52] <nexeus> Uriku,  http://www.liflg.org/?catid=6&gameid=17
[08:52] <Code-E> i need help with installing java
[08:52] <Code-E> the one in add/remove says its not compatible with my system architecture
[08:52] <Code-E> :(
[08:53] <r000t> Dr_willis: or did you mean .. i wont get any help in this channel... although there are 959 logged in users .. and noone have a clue of mysql ..
[08:53] <r000t> Dr_willis: :)
[08:53] <Dr_willis> r000t,  all i know abouyt MySQL i learned from my UsingMySQL book.. and i last used it years ago.. so nope. no clue.. neer heard of it.. id say check #mysql
[08:53] <nexeus> Code-E,  Use Automatix
[08:53] <wols> r000t: have you heard of #mysql? cool channel that...
[08:53] <Dr_willis> r000t,  i would have to say.. time to get googling.
[08:53] <wols> nexeus: No
[08:53] <nexeus> ??
[08:53] <Blissex> andred: that is a very odd location.
[08:53] <Code-E> nexeus: what is automatic
[08:53] <nexeus> woups y
[08:53] <Code-E> x*
[08:54] <wols> !automatix
[08:54] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[08:54] <wols> it's shit. all you need to know :)
[08:54] <C-O-L-T> hello I am sharing some files with windows network but I can not see my files just printers why?
[08:54] <schizoschaf> is anyone running ekiga and will try a short test call?
[08:54] <sharperguy> It didnt work
[08:54] <nexeus> Its an auto installer for many app for newbies like me ;)
[08:54] <sharperguy> schizoschaf, try calling echo@proxy01.sipphone.com
[08:55] <schizoschaf> thx
[08:55] <Bohic1> scheuri, am using gaim.. went to chanserv, type /list and get BIG list...how to search list???
[08:55] <shut-> !java
[08:55] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[08:55] <wols> Code-E: use easybuntu
[08:55] <Code-E> !easybuntu
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easybuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <sharperguy> Ok, just got soundconverter to let me convert to mp3, however it says "conversion compleated in 1 second". but nothing happened
[08:56] <Code-E> wols: ?
[08:56] <sharperguy> !easyUbuntu
[08:56] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[08:56] <wols> !info easybuntu
[08:56] <javaJake> I've got a song playing in mplayer from internet radio, and would like to pipe it to a file
[08:56] <ubotu> Package easybuntu does not exist in any distro I know
[08:56] <wols> sharperguy: doh
[08:56] <javaJake> How do I do this without closing mplayer?
[08:56] <kmaynard> jeeps
[08:56] <C-O-L-T> hello I am sharing some files with windows network but I can not see my files just printers why?
[08:56] <javaJake> Is there a way to pipe sound going to speakers to a file?
[08:56] <ramvi> Hi! As I log into gnome X restarts and asks for the username again. What do I do? (It only happens if I type the correct username and password)
[08:56] <sharperguy> Ok, just got soundconverter to let me convert to mp3, however it says "conversion compleated in 1 second". but nothing happened
[08:57] <ramvi> Sorry... I meant as I log into gnome; X restarts and asks for the username again. What do I do? (It only happens if I type the correct username and password)
[08:57] <Code-E> wols so how do i install it
[08:57] <javaJake> Is there a way to pipe sound going to speakers to a file? I need to know fairly quickly - I only have 10 minutes till the song exists the buffer
[08:58] <javaJake> Anyone? :(
[08:58] <wols> Code-E: you don't know how to install stuff on ubuntu? have you read manual(s)?
[08:58] <Code-E> no
[08:58] <czer323> Anyone have any experience with using Powersaved to manage the ACPI routines?
[08:58] <Code-E> wols how do i get this "easybuntu"
[08:58] <czer323> !easyubuntu
[08:58] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[08:58] <wols> Code-E: it's easyubuntu
[08:58] <kmaynard> Code-E: google it?
[08:59] <javaJake> Is there a way to pipe sound going to speakers to a file? I need to know fairly quickly - I only have 10 minutes till the song exits the buffer.
[08:59] <javaJake> I am not usually pushy, but the answer to this question cannot wait too long
[08:59] <javaJake> ...this time
[08:59] <Xklark> Hello, could someone help me a problem regarding the OpenSSH on ubuntu?
[09:00] <javaJake> I might be able to...
[09:00] <Xklark> well
[09:00] <ompaul> javaJake, hack alsa - there is no way to do that, that I am aware of
[09:00] <Xklark> i did the apt-get
[09:00] <javaJake> Hack alsa... hmmmm
[09:00] <shut-> how do u install java
[09:00] <ompaul> !java
[09:00] <shut-> the !java didnt work
[09:00] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:00] <javaJake> shut, goto ubuntuguide.com
[09:00] <Xklark> i did the apt-get, but nothing happened
[09:00] <Xklark> when i try to connect to it
[09:00] <Munchkinguy> Why is gstreamer0.8-xvid found in the multiverse repository if it is licensed under the LGPL?
[09:00] <Xklark> it says connection refused
[09:01] <ompaul> Xklark, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[09:01] <javaJake> Xklark, check that you don't have any firewalls installed, and that you installed openssh-server
[09:01] <Xklark> i did that
[09:01] <Xklark> i did
[09:01] <Xklark> it installed
[09:01] <Xklark> and stuff
[09:01] <javaJake> Can you connect using 127.0.0.1?
[09:01] <Xklark> but i dont know if its running
[09:01] <Xklark> ill try hold on
[09:01] <Xklark> nope
[09:01] <Xklark> java
[09:01] <Xklark> its on adifferent computer
[09:01] <Xklark> on my network
[09:01] <javaJake> Is there a way to pipe sound going to speakers to a file? I need to know fairly quickly - I only have 10 minutes till the song exits the buffer.
[09:01] <kmaynard> netstat -a | grep ssh
[09:01] <javaJake> Oh, whoops
[09:02] <javaJake> I already got an answer
[09:02] <Uriku> much better now... I hate IRC at Gaim
[09:02] <Juhaz> Munchkinguy, patents
[09:02] <kmaynard> you should see a line that says LISTENING
[09:02] <schizoschaf> Xklark,  ps -A | grep ssh
[09:02] <javaJake> kmaynard, are you talking to me? :)
[09:02] <ompaul> shut-, to install java enable multiverse and install java there is no more to it than that
[09:02] <LjL> javaJake, i think there *is* a program that can do that (intercept output to /dev/dsp), but don't really remember which program it is
[09:02] <kmaynard> javaJake: not really :)
[09:03] <Xklark> km
[09:03] <LjL> javaJake: you might always try the hard way, i.e. connect your line-out to your line-in, and record.
[09:03] <Xklark> i did that
[09:03] <Xklark> it says LISTEN
[09:03] <Munchkinguy> Juhaz: Is it in Muliverse in EU countries?
[09:03] <kmaynard> then its running
[09:03] <Xklark> but how do i connect to it
[09:03] <Xklark> whats the IP
[09:03] <Xklark> i cant figure it out
[09:03] <kmaynard> ifconfig
[09:03] <Xklark> k
[09:03] <javaJake> Xklark, what program are you using to connect?
[09:03] <LjL> javaJake: "apt-cache show vsound"
[09:03] <Xklark> Putty
[09:03] <javaJake> Yay!
[09:03] <javaJake> Thanks!
[09:03] <kmaynard> Xklark: ifconfig eth0  that will tell you your ip
[09:03] <ompaul> Xklark, please put your collected thoughts on one line, this is not IM it is IRC the grandaddy of all IM
[09:04] <ramvi> Sorry that I ask again, but I really have to get into gnome and start working... As I log into gnome; (I guess) X restarts 'cause the loginscreen reappears. What do I do? (It only happens if I type the correct username and password)
[09:04] <Xklark> sorry ompaul.
[09:04] <ompaul> Xklark, no worries
[09:04] <javaJake> I do the same thing
[09:04] <javaJake> :P
[09:04] <Code-E> How do I run this easy ubuntu
[09:04] <javaJake> See? I already did it!!!
[09:04] <Uriku> hmm... I don't seem to be able to make UT2004 install =/ can anyone help me?
[09:04] <kmaynard> Code-E: the website has directions
[09:04] <Xklark> yay, kmaynard. I LOVE YOU
[09:05] <Xklark> It worked. Thanks for your help.
[09:05] <kmaynard> Xklark: keep your distance
[09:05] <javaJake> LOL
[09:05] <Xklark> :P
[09:05] <kmaynard> and you're welcome :-D
[09:05] <fildo_> i love you ? bit far dont u think
[09:05] <fildo_> ha
[09:05] <Juhaz> Munchkinguy, area distinctions would be mighty confusing, so it tends to be lowest common denominator
[09:05] <kromel> maybe, but having his children might not be.
[09:05] <Munchkinguy> ah
[09:06] <fildo_> cyber kids aye
[09:06] <verix> what's the name of the headers for C/C++ development for things like sockets?
[09:07] <javaJake> LjL, vsound wants to wrap around the program
[09:07] <javaJake> I cannot do this, since mplayer is already running
[09:07] <javaJake> :(
[09:07] <foureight84> how do you enable esc to close the gaim chat window?
[09:07] <fildo_> foureight84: in gaim options / prefrences
[09:07] <fildo_> its there somewhere
[09:08] <LjL> javaJake: right, well in that case i don't think you have many chances... personally i'd just go the record-the-line-out route, assuming you have a male-to-male cable
[09:08] <ofer> I installed ie on ubuntu but don't know how to run it
[09:08] <Squirrely_Wrath> Okay.  I'm trying to get ubuntu to see my creative zen micro.  All I want to do is transfer my mp3's onto my laptop.  Installed gnomad and still can't get it to work.  Any suggestions.
[09:08] <javaJake> I do
[09:08] <foureight84> fildo_, thanks
[09:08] <Uriku> please? anyone with experience installing UT2004
[09:08] <pchamorro> join #ubuntu
[09:08] <foureight84> lol
[09:08] <javaJake> This could be done in Windows. Yet ANOTHER thing Linux doesn't do. *Sigh*
[09:08] <LjL> javaJake: also, i think some soundcards actually allow to directly record what's being played, if you set the mixer correctly
[09:08] <LjL> javaJake: how'd you do that in windows?
[09:08] <LjL> !it
[09:08] <gnomefreak> ofer: because IE wont run without WINE and it doesnt run good with wine
[09:08] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:09] <javaJake> Audacity would have "Wave Out Mix" or something like that in it's record list
[09:09] <javaJake> That would be the speaker output
[09:09] <Subhuman> LjL, you could use virtual cables too.
[09:09] <foureight84> there's no option for the esc
[09:09] <javaJake> Linux obviously doesn't do this
[09:09] <javaJake> :(
[09:09] <ofer> gnomefreak: also installed wine
[09:09] <Subhuman> javaJake, you sure it jus aint your card?
[09:09] <Subhuman> my audigy works fine , all the line ins and shit work no problem
[09:09] <gnomefreak> ofer: try wine file.deb
[09:10] <LjL> javaJake: well, in my mixer i've got a "Capture" switch (and slider) in the recording tab, which i think is it
[09:10] <gnomefreak> file.deb being the IE.deb file
[09:10] <javaJake> Subhuman, Audacity can't access the sound while mplayer is running, let alone let me record the speaker output
[09:10] <foureight84> i'm using gaim 2.0 beta 3.1
[09:10] <fildo_> gnomefreak: works fine for me .but my DE . is KDE.
[09:10] <fildo_> but i dont use it consitantly, only for a dev preview
[09:10] <LjL> javaJake: i'm using KMix though, i suppose the gnome mixer might give things different names
[09:10] <Squirrely_Wrath> I guess that's a no
[09:10] <javaJake> Linux has a "Capture" tab
[09:10] <gnomefreak> fildo_: huh?
[09:10] <Uriku> ?
[09:10] <Uriku> capture tab?
[09:10] <fildo_> gnomefreak: wine / IE .
[09:11] <javaJake> LjL, the capture tab as Line-in, CD, Microphone, and Capture.
[09:11] <RicardoPerez> Hi! I'm with Edgy, and the usplash artwork is like a "pattern test". How can I change the artwork to have the same usplash as in Edgy Knot 3?
[09:11] <ofer> it is working now - had to do  /home/ofer/bin/ie6
[09:11] <TIM90> hi guys does any one happen to know how to find out what ip adress i have (like a command)
[09:11] <javaJake> The Capture slider is the master volume for all recording sliders
[09:11] <gnomefreak> fildo_: ick i have heard horror stories about running them together
[09:11] <kromel> anyone an Alsa expert?
[09:11] <javaJake> Playback tab has MAster, Headphone, PCM, and PC Speaker
[09:11] <javaJake> kromel, do NOT look at me. :D
[09:12] <kromel> javaJake, looking away
[09:12] <LjL> javaJake: hm, here i don't think the "capture" slider is the master recording volume, because i can record from microphone or line-in even with it turned to zero
[09:12] <javaJake> LOL
[09:12] <Subhuman> TIM90, ifconfig
[09:12] <javaJake> Oh, OK
[09:12] <Subhuman> you mean internal or external TIM90 ??
[09:12] <cagdas> hi,
[09:12] <Subhuman> ifconfig for your internal, for external jus go to www.ipchicken.com
[09:12] <cagdas> how do we modify PATH variable system wide?
[09:13] <kromel> any ideas?  alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[09:13] <SlackRat> has anyone activated the root account and found it messed up protocols in the kde root account?
[09:13] <fildo_> LjL: im with you, my arch it setup fine with alsa
[09:13] <fildo_> i can record straight awya with SB live
[09:13] <TIM90> the actual ip address eg..in windows its "ipconfig"
[09:13] <Uriku> !il
[09:13] <ubotu>          
[09:13] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[09:14] <shut-> how u create dir
[09:14] <Uriku> makedir?
[09:14] <kromel> mkdir
[09:14] <shut-> k
[09:14] <Uriku> close enough =P
[09:14] <kromel> lol
[09:14] <SlackRat> wow, hebrew fonts, didnt know i had em..... :P
[09:14] <TIM90> Subhuman thank you ifconfig2 has do it for me ] 
[09:14] <javaJake> LOL, me neither
[09:15] <LjL> javaJake: look, apparently (i don't use Gnome or ESD so i can't really try), ESD has an "esdmon" program which should allow you to capture the output audio stream... if mplayer is using ESD for its output, you might give that a shot
[09:15] <kromel> yeah, I think ubotu just called our mothers names in hebrew.  not sure though
[09:15] <SlackRat> anyone had problems activating the root account in k/ubuntu?
[09:15] <LjL> javaJake: also, mplayer itself has a (command-line) switch to record to file, instead of playing on the soundcard... perhaps there is a way to change that at runtime, too?
[09:15] <SlackRat> or announced armageddon
[09:15] <javaJake> Maybe........
[09:15] <LjL> SlackRat: no, because luckily, i didn't try.
[09:16] <fildo_> SlackRat: no
[09:16] <gnomefreak> kromel: that belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic not in #ubuntu
[09:16] <jharr> SlackRat: no, if you're trying to login through kdm as root, make sure you enable root logins
[09:16] <ompaul> !root
[09:16] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:16] <coldboot> After doing an apt-get update, does anyone know why all my monospace fonts would end up wider? (If I make a terminal 100 characters wide, it's much wider in pixels than it was before the update, and the letters actually look wider as well. This only happened on one of my two dapper systems, both of which have been updated...
[09:16] <jharr> SlackRat: I advise to consider other options
[09:16] <SlackRat> i did, i got the session up but an error about cant find protocols....
[09:17] <gnomefreak> jharr: not advised and not to be advised in this channel
[09:17] <ompaul> root is not adviced
[09:17] <gnomefreak> ty
[09:17] <ompaul> advised even
[09:17] <krups> wierd, k8/smp enabled kernel gone in edgy?
[09:17] <ompaul> !edgy
[09:17] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:17] <LjL> gnomefreak: i think jharr is saying to *not* use root, and consider other options instead... which i think is correct
[09:17] <SlackRat> i know, it became the only workaround for a problem tho, its back to being a hidden account now
[09:17] <gnomefreak> LjL: hence the ty
[09:18] <ompaul> krups, you are in the wrong channel for edgy, next door, in #ubuntu+1
[09:18] <LjL> SlackRat: what problem, out of curiosity?
[09:18] <kromel> there a dedicated ubuntu alsa channel?
[09:18] <fildo_> alsa is a generic linux term
[09:18] <SlackRat> no way of removing a directory with sudo and sudo su ,  it was still there in /etc and causing reinstallation problems for vmware
[09:18] <fildo_> anyone could help . with any distro
[09:18] <ompaul> kromel, alsa is alas in this channel but not the edgy one
[09:19] <LjL> SlackRat: you do know that you can type "sudo -i" to enter a root shell, don't you?
[09:19] <gnomefreak> SlackRat: sudo -rf path/to/dir/dirname
[09:19] <kromel> ahh, thanks ompaul
[09:19] <SlackRat> ah, cool, thanks gnomefreak and LjL
[09:19] <DC> #ubuntu-vn
[09:19] <SlackRat> i do also feel better knowing ubuntu can do everything debian can if need be.....  :P
[09:19] <LjL> SlackRat: and "sudo su" as well (which is not a very good idea, but anyway), will give you the *exact* same privileges as root, so the problem must really have lied somewhere else...
[09:20] <LjL> SlackRat: of course it can. but there's no need to enable the root account to allow it...
[09:20] <fildo_> im used to using su .. coming from a redhat bg
[09:20] <sarikan> hi there
[09:20] <SlackRat> me too fildo
[09:20] <fildo_> but sudo / sudo list is such a good idea
[09:20] <SlackRat> debian and slack bg
[09:20] <kmaynard> first thing i do is enable root
[09:20] <SlackRat> heh
[09:20] <sarikan> how can I make modify my kb layout for ctrl+alt to be equal to altgr
[09:20] <ompaul> kmaynard, what a waste of energy
[09:21] <LjL> fildo_: well, "sudo su" is not terrible, but just a tad redundant and, well, ugly... but you get used to "sudo -i" quite easily IME (not that one would normally use it too often, anyway)
[09:21] <kmaynard> i remember when the "random" root pw in ubuntu was discovered...eff that
[09:21] <SlackRat> ubuntu isnt designed with root phobia, its designed to protect new users from full root access and the mess they can make of their OS
[09:21] <kmaynard> ompaul: why? beats typing sudo all the time
[09:21] <LjL> kmaynard: root is simply locked, there's no "random" password... unless it was that way in older versions...
[09:21] <ompaul> kmaynard, ehh that was during an install process .....
[09:21] <Uriku> err
[09:21] <kmaynard> LjL: it was cracked before
[09:22] <ompaul> kmaynard, and your not accurate in your decription
[09:22] <ompaul> so lets leave it there
[09:22] <Uriku> what does "bash COMMAND" do exactly?
[09:22] <LjL> SlackRat: sure, but fact is that there is *no need* to actually enable root, in order to have root privileges.
[09:22] <kmaynard> whatever...point is, im enabling it with a different pw
[09:22] <ompaul> kmaynard, and you won't suggest it to people here cos we don't support it
[09:22] <SlackRat> sudo mania is a user thing....theres no 'need' to compile ur own pkgs either but it s an option
[09:22] <kmaynard> im not suggesting anything. im saying what i do
[09:23] <ompaul> and it is offtopic for here :)_
[09:23] <SlackRat> ompaul, i agree it shouldnt be supported in a support room tho  :P
[09:23] <gnomefreak> kmaynard: dont want to type sudo all the type than type sudo -i
[09:23] <LjL> SlackRat: sure it is, but when someone comes here and asks how to compile XYZ, and i tell them that XYZ is already in the repos, and they say "well but i want to compile it anyway", then i say "fine... go on, but without my help"
[09:23] <kmaynard> oh yeah, a sudo vs su -  discussion is OT in a linux room
[09:23] <javaJake> LjL, DANG
[09:23] <javaJake> LjL, No cable... can't find it
[09:23] <gnomefreak> kmaynard: very offtopic
[09:23] <ompaul> kmaynard, cease - it is offtopic
[09:24] <LjL> SlackRat: of course everyone's free to do whatever the heck they like on their system -- it's just that i don't necessarily have to support that choice in here
[09:24] <DC> Hello every1
[09:24] <DC> :)
[09:24] <SlackRat> true
[09:24] <ompaul> !sudo > kmaynard
[09:24] <Somniis> hello DC
[09:24] <DB42> ok, i'm tryin to boot grub with "root (hd0,5)" "kernel /boot/vmlinuz... root=/dev/sda5" <-- what am i doing wrong here ? it gives me KERNEL PANIC on trying to mount root
[09:24] <Gosty> hi there i want to php5 on apache1 can somebody help me?
[09:24] <kmaynard> jeez you guys are sensitive
[09:24] <DC> it's nice to be here with all Ubuntu-lovers :)
[09:24] <wols> DB42: hd0,5 is NOT sda5
[09:24] <wols> DB42: hd0,4 is
[09:24] <gnomefreak> DB42: try changing it to root=/dev/hda5 ;)
[09:24] <SlackRat> is there a room for , shall we see, more advanced users of ubuntu?
[09:25] <Uriku> ...
[09:25] <DB42> (hd0,4) ok
[09:25] <LjL> javaJake: may i ask how exactly you've come to have a buffered stream that you can't reproduce anymore? =) not trying to be inquisitive, just thinking if there might be some other way
[09:25] <Uriku> I can't remove the CD
[09:25] <wols> #debian
[09:25] <SlackRat> s/say/see
[09:25] <Uriku> it says that device is busy
[09:25] <DB42> it is root=/dev/hda5.... help me out
[09:25] <SlackRat> funny wols
[09:25] <SlackRat> try again
[09:25] <javaJake> mplayer -cache (KBs) (Internet stream)
[09:25] <LjL> SlackRat: no. there is a room for users who want to talk about offtopic things, and that's #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:25] <javaJake> That sets how big mplayer's cache is
[09:25] <shut-> !limewire
[09:25] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[09:25] <gnomefreak> DB42: you said it was sda5
[09:25] <javaJake> You can skip around in the cache
[09:25] <SlackRat> ah , same difference......  :P
[09:25] <DB42> it was sda5....
[09:25] <DB42> it's SATA disk..
[09:25] <Gosty> hi there i don't know how to install php5 on apache1 can somebody help me? pleaseeeee.......
[09:25] <shut-> !frostwire
[09:25] <gnomefreak> shut-: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:26] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:26] <Uriku> please help me, the CD won't come out in the middle of the install
[09:26] <SlackRat> frostwire is nice
[09:26] <LjL> javaJake: ok but what i'm asking is, why can't you just close mplayer and restart it, and re-get the stream from the net?
[09:26] <gnomefreak> shut-: do that first and choose the new one
[09:26] <shut-> i got gave
[09:26] <shut-> java
[09:26] <kmaynard> ompaul: is there a serious problem here?
[09:26] <gnomefreak> shut-: did you set it as system wide
[09:26] <ompaul> kmaynard, with?
[09:26] <javaJake> Because the stream has been sent out already... this is a cache of stuff sent already. It's an internet radio
[09:26] <DB42> anybody ? please help ...
[09:26] <javaJake> Trust me: I can't get this back without paying :)
[09:26] <SlackRat> kmaynard, er...yup
[09:26] <shut-> nope
[09:26] <wols> DB42: I already told you
[09:26] <LjL> javaJake: ah, i understand. as i said, i was just wondering.
[09:26] <gnomefreak> shut-: than frostwire nor limewire will work
[09:27] <javaJake> Unless I can get the audio out of the RAM... :P
[09:27] <P4W3R> NO BASE-CONFIG ??????
[09:27] <jharr> DB42: grub starts with index 0, not index 1
[09:27] <P4W3R> WHAT A SHIT
[09:27] <P4W3R> NO BASE-CONFIG ??????
[09:27] <gnomefreak> P4W3R: please lose the caps
[09:27] <P4W3R> NO BASE-CONFIG ??????
[09:27] <javaJake> P4W3R, Please refrain from obsene language
[09:27] <LjL> javaJake: uh, well, you probably *can* do that. i'm not sure if interepreting it would be easy, but ... =)
[09:27] <P4W3R> and
[09:27] <Hans-Martin> Uriku: what are you trying to do?
[09:27] <javaJake> LjL, I won't do that...
[09:27] <javaJake> :P
[09:27] <kmaynard> SlackRat: ?
[09:27] <ompaul> P4W3R,  mind your language
[09:27] <P4W3R> i put caps because i am shouting
[09:27] <SlackRat> pm me
[09:28] <Uriku> I am trying to instal Unreal Tournament 2004 (after I understood I had to do bash: linux-installer.sh -.-
[09:28] <javaJake> OK, then no shouting. :D
[09:28] <gnomefreak> P4W3R: i know why i didnt ask why you were using them
[09:28] <Uriku> it asks for CD2
[09:28] <asmo674hurt> can i install Linux in one Hard drive with XP???
[09:28] <DB42> i know it starts...
[09:28] <LjL> javaJake: i recall that on my Amiga, i had a program that could automatically scan the RAM for traces of any sound modules --- intended to be used to rip music from games, after a soft reset...
[09:28] <Uriku> and it won't let it out
[09:28] <javaJake> Is there a /dev file I can use...
[09:28] <peace-keeper> hi what's a good bittorrent client for ubuntu ?
[09:28] <DB42> sorry, it's my mistake, here:
[09:28] <DB42> ok, i'm tryin to boot grub with "root (hd0,4)" "kernel /boot/vmlinuz... root=/dev/sda5" <-- what am i doing wrong here ? it gives me KERNEL PANIC on trying to mount root
[09:28] <LjL> javaJake: not much help outside of AmigaOS though ;)
[09:28] <fildo_> asmo674hurt: yes
[09:28] <Hans-Martin> Uriku: your shell probably has the working directory on the CD.
[09:28] <kmaynard> peace-keeper: bittorrent
[09:28] <Somniis> asmo674hurt: yes
[09:28] <P4W3R> installing ubuntu in a RAID newly supported by dmraid
[09:28] <SonicChao> !bittorrent
[09:28] <ubotu> bittorrent: Scatter-gather network file transfer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.2-6ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 92 kB, installed size 580 kB
[09:28] <P4W3R> manual install
[09:28] <javaJake> LjL, Is there a /dev file I can use to pipe audio out of?
[09:28] <fildo_> !dualboot
[09:28] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[09:29] <Uriku> so what do I do?
[09:29] <asmo674hurt> fildo_ how
[09:29] <asmo674hurt> fildo_ how??
[09:29] <fildo_> look up
[09:29] <wols> Uriku: use lsof to see which process has a file open on your CD
[09:29] <gnomefreak> !dualboot > asmo674hurt
[09:29] <LjL> javaJake: no, otherwise you'd be all set... the only /dev file you really have is /dev/dsp, but if you pipe stuff out of it, you just get the microphone (at least unless you have and can find the "capture" setting i was thinking about)
[09:29] <Gosty> Hi There! I have installed Apache 1.3 server and i haven't got PHP mod. I want to PHP5 but i can't find it with apt-cache search. Please help me if i want to lower some PHP script it ask me for download the script. Please Please help ME!!!!!
[09:29] <fildo_> or that .
[09:29] <Hans-Martin> Uriku: try to run the installer form another directory: "cd /tmp; bash /media/cdrom/installer.sh" or whatever
[09:29] <wols> Uriku: and either close the file (directories count as files too here)
[09:30] <javaJake> LjL, ah... ok
[09:30] <fildo_> !php
[09:30] <ubotu> offically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)
[09:30] <javaJake> LjL, What is /dev/snd for then?
[09:30] <DB42> can anybody hlelp me out ?
[09:30] <Uriku> hmm so just run it from another directory?
[09:30] <asmo674hurt> fildo_: and i have ntfs file sistem???
[09:30] <wols> DB42: since you don't read what people type: why should anyone
[09:30] <DB42> wols: you said it's wrong index, but it's the correct one...
[09:31] <gnomefreak> DB42: change root=/dev/sda5 to hda5
[09:31] <javaJake> "The alsa drivers have native sound-devices in the /dev/snd/ directory."
[09:31] <DB42> gnomefreak: but i have a SATA DISK
[09:31] <DB42> not a PATA
[09:31] <Hans-Martin> Uriku: yup, try it (if you currently are running it from a shell whose working dir is on the CD)
[09:31] <wols> DB42: sda5 is NOT hd0,5 in grub. never was, never will be
[09:31] <javaJake> LjL, AHA: The alsa drivers have native sound-devices in the /dev/snd/ directory.
[09:31] <DB42> my /dev/hda is a completly diffrent drive
[09:31] <asmo674hurt> fildo_: and i have ntfs file sistem???
[09:31] <gnomefreak> DB42: i dont remember asking but ok dont do it than
[09:31] <fildo_> and ?
[09:31] <DB42> wols: you dont read.. i said hd0,4 not hd0,5 i fixed my error
[09:31] <wols> DB42: grub numres from hd0,0 onwards. If you had read the grub manual you knew. but you obviously didn't
[09:31] <DB42> gnomefreak: ok, thanks
[09:31] <DB42> i KNOW
[09:32] <DB42> AND I DID IT i wrote hd0,5 by mistake it's hd0,4
[09:32] <fildo_> partition hdd, to create space
[09:32] <asmo674hurt> ubotu: it works already if i have ntfs file sistem???
[09:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about it works already if i have ntfs file sistem??? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:32] <wols> DB42: you still haven't told what the error is
[09:32] <LjL> javaJake: true, but still i don't think they have a device that allows to loopback the output stream... i might be mistaken of course
[09:32] <fildo_> n boot ubuntu cd . point the empty space to install ubuntu on
[09:32] <Gosty> Hi There! I have installed Apache 1.3 server and i haven't got PHP mod. I want to PHP5 but i can't find it with apt-cache search. Please help me if i want to lower some PHP script it ask me for download the script. Please Please help ME!!!!!
[09:32] <Fysidiko> Can anyone help me with sudoers?
[09:32] <fatbrain> Hello, any good gui-ssh client available for browins me files?
[09:32] <DB42> wols: after the kernel is loading, i get in the middle KERNEL PANIC, can't mount root device "sda5"
[09:32] <avr> hi, strange problem with gnome-terminal in dapper. i'm on a laptop and thetouchpad works, but i cant select from gnome-terminal adn middle-click paste to another application
[09:32] <gnomefreak> DB42: but yet you still have one
[09:32] <DB42> and fdisk shows my linux to be /dev/sda5
[09:32] <Uriku> hey it's asking me if I want to install symbolic links:
[09:32] <wols> DB42: kernel version? custom or ubuntu kernel?
[09:32] <Uriku> what does it mean?
[09:32] <schizoschaf> fatbrain try gftp
[09:32] <avr> this is only with gnome-terminal.. xterm select works
[09:33] <DB42> ubuntu kernel
[09:33] <Hans-Martin> does anyone know how I can assign a fixed name to a PCMCIA WLAN card? it sometimes comes up as eth1, sometimes eth2 or eth3, and I always need to reconfigure the WEP parameters...
[09:33] <DB42> should it be root=sda5 or root=/dev/sda5 ?
[09:33] <wols> DB42: initrd line in menu.lst? what IDE chipset?
[09:33] <DB42> can anybody pastebin me his grub.conf file please ?!?
[09:33] <DB42> nforce chipset
[09:33] <wols> root=/dev/sda5
[09:33] <Somniis> Gosty: sudo apt-get install php5?
[09:33] <DB42> wols: can you pastebin me your grub.conf ?
[09:33] <wols> DB42: do you have a LiveCD?
[09:33] <schizoschaf> fatbrain better: Use places->connect to server from the main menu
[09:34] <DB42> it doesnt seem to work
[09:34] <Hans-Martin> Uriku: in what context? it might want to install a link on your desktop - or it might want to install only part of the game on your HD, keeping the rest on CD
[09:34] <LinAsH> Uriku, say yes
[09:34] <fatbrain> schizoschaf: You are the best.
[09:34] <fatbrain> (for now)
[09:34] <DB42> i can run the livecd, it borks in the middle, but i can mount my original linux on /dev/sda5
[09:34] <wols> DB42: there is no grub.conf. and it won't help you since my kernel is custom
[09:34] <schizoschaf> i knew it :)
[09:34] <Code-E> this easyubuntu is saying that the packages are corrupted
[09:34] <Code-E> what do i do
[09:34] <gnomefreak> Code-E: ask in #easyubuntu
[09:34] <DB42> can anybody here with a non-custom kernel, pastebin me his menu.lst from /boot/grub/ please ?!?
[09:34] <shut-> !winamp
[09:34] <ubotu> winamp is a windows music player. On Ubuntu you can use beep-media-player or xmms as alternative.
[09:35] <Uriku> "Do you want to install sybmbolic links to a directory in your path"
[09:35] <DB42> blah..
[09:35] <fildo_> shut-: use xmms  or amarok
[09:35] <Uriku> then it asks if I where do I want to put it
[09:35] <gnomefreak> !grub > DB42
[09:35] <shut-> ok
[09:35] <coldboot> What determines the width of monospace fonts in Linux?
[09:35] <fildo_> coldboot: nfi
[09:35] <DB42> i asked for something simple
[09:35] <DB42> not for a generic guide..
[09:36] <LjL> javaJake: look, another (crazy) possibility based on your scan-the-memory idea... if you look into /proc/ProcessNumber/statm, where ProcessNumber is the mplayer process, you'll see the areas of memory that mplayer is used. if you then pipe those areas from /dev/mem into /dev/dsp, after some garbage, you might start hearing the actual recording...
[09:36] <DB42> gnomefreak: please pastebin me your menu.lst ...
[09:36] <Uriku> Code-E: I know that problem, you need to untick the online video feature
[09:36] <coldboot> fildo: no fucking idea?
[09:36] <Code-E> oh
[09:36] <Code-E> ok
[09:36] <Code-E> lol, at my stupidity
[09:36] <fildo_> coldboot: affirmative
[09:36] <javaJake> LjL, it is crazy enough that it might work
[09:36] <javaJake> :)
[09:36] <LjL> javaJake: if you do manage to pinpoint the location in memory, then it shouldn't be *too* hard to make that into a working .wav file
[09:36] <linopil> !ltsp
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ltsp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <linopil> !muekow
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about muekow - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <gnomefreak> DB42: i could but mine isnt "standard"
[09:37] <gandalfcome> how do I automount sata drives that are connected via pcmcia sata adaptor
[09:37] <gandalfcome> ?
[09:37] <gnomefreak> DB42: please read the docs
[09:37] <coldboot> fildo: Alrighty then, wouldn't it be cool if the whole channel answered in a similar way if they didn't know something? =)
[09:37] <gandalfcome> thanks in advance
[09:37] <wols> DB42: since your kernel loads, it is no grub problem btw. you have a kernel problem
[09:37] <Uriku> yay it works!
[09:37] <Uriku> ^_^
[09:37] <DB42> maybe i need to add initrd line to grub ?
[09:37] <Uriku> thanks
[09:37] <javaJake> LjL, being a beginner to this stuff, how do I take the memory numbers at use them?
[09:37] <wols> DB42: DUH!. I already asked you that.
[09:37] <fildo_> coldboot: affirmative.make life easier, i take the method of i dont know. shut the fubar up.
[09:37] <lostinc> I am trying to play avi and mpeg files with totem is there a way to get them to work or am I stuck with VLC?
[09:37] <Hans-Martin> Uriku: congrats
[09:38] <DB42> ok, i'll try it with that
[09:38] <DB42> thanks
[09:38] <Uriku> now I'll have UT2004 in Linux! finally a Linuxian pride
[09:38] <DB42> brb
[09:38] <shut-> sud
[09:38] <wols> DB42: the question is however: why would you. the ubuntu default kernel already comes with a initrd line
[09:38] <javaJake> LjL, these are the numbers reported:
[09:38] <Uriku> now let's see if the game will run -.-
[09:38] <javaJake> 14306 4501 4263 1633 0 1066 0
[09:38] <kmaynard> lostinc: try automatix
[09:38] <peace-keeper> lostinc: according to my experience, you need to install at least 3 players if you want to play every format
[09:38] <Gosty> Somniis: but there is only libapache2-mod-php5
[09:38] <Uriku> meh each trouble for its time
[09:38] <kmaynard> javaJake: lottery picks?
[09:38] <DB42> wols: i run it witout
[09:38] <linopil> uriku what   was that ut2400 ?
[09:38] <gnomefreak> DB42: what kernel are you trying to boot?
[09:38] <DB42> i type "kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda5"
[09:38] <DB42> thats it
[09:38] <DB42> the latest k7 regular
[09:38] <gnomefreak> latest?
[09:38] <javaJake> kmaynard, No, they are the numbers that supposedly represent where mplayer has stored the buffer data
[09:38] <Uriku> linopil: I'm installing Unreal Tournament 2004 in Linux
[09:38] <nexeus> u need to install the extra map and loki is the web u can find that
[09:39] <javaJake> In the RAM
[09:39] <javaJake> Or whateve
[09:39] <Uriku> it's hawt :3
[09:39] <DB42> the latest on the resp offical
[09:39] <linopil> I ssee
[09:39] <LjL> javaJake: i'm thinking about that myself. you could use "head" and "tail", but it wouldn't be too good i think.   anyway, sorry, gave you the wrong file - it's not statm, its /proc/#/maps the one you want
[09:39] <RedGhost> Is there a printscreen bash command
[09:39] <peace-keeper> where can i find bittorrent after i installed it? :D
[09:39] <RedGhost> or is that just part of gnome
[09:39] <gnomefreak> DB42: that doesnt tell me anything but that is why im not helping you your attitude isnt gonna get you help
[09:39] <shut-> !bittorrent
[09:39] <ubotu> bittorrent: Scatter-gather network file transfer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.2-6ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 92 kB, installed size 580 kB
[09:39] <RedGhost>  /usr/bin or menu->internet
[09:39] <peace-keeper> shut: that doesnt answer my question
[09:39] <Gosty> Somniis: but there is only libapache2-mod-php5
[09:40] <shut-> huh?
[09:40] <LjL> javaJake: you should see a number of memory areas there... which one is the right one, is guesswork. but it'd be probably the one labelled "heap", or the ones labelled "mplayer"...
[09:40] <fildo_> RedGhost: ksnapshot ?
[09:40] <DB42> gnomefreak: what do you want to know, ? i run synaptic , and it gets me the kernels...
[09:40] <DB42> i'm not running any special kernel
[09:40] <gnomefreak> DB42: what kernel is it?
[09:40] <shut-> i cant figure it eaither
[09:40] <woodgrain> is there a way to convert from dapper to debian unstable?
[09:40] <shut-> its draper
[09:40] <Horrible> can someone please tell me how to install a .deb file ? i've downloaded dc++ for ubuntu ...
[09:40] <DB42> gnomefreak: how do i know /
[09:40] <fildo_> is for kde
[09:40] <javaJake> Wow
[09:40] <LjL> javaJake: anyway, best thing to just pipe the specific area should be to use "dd". i am allergic to "dd" though, never can remember the syntax
[09:40] <gnomefreak> DB42: hint: place kernel numbers here
[09:40] <DB42> it's the kernel 90% of the people her ehas..
[09:40] <krazykit> wo`not easily
[09:40] <lostinc> Thanks guys! :)
[09:40] <peace-keeper> why is everything 3 times as complicated as it was in win xp ?
[09:40] <krazykit> Horrible: sudo dpkg -i
[09:40] <javaJake> LjL, I might just copy these all to files in a new directory to play around with later
[09:40] <DB42> i dont know.. i need to boot...
[09:41] <javaJake> Along with this map file
[09:41] <gnomefreak> DB42: you have been looking at it in your grub/menu.lst file
[09:41] <Horrible> krazykit: thanks
[09:41] <woodgrain> Horrible, sudo dpkg -i packg.deb
[09:41] <shut-> !bitcomment
[09:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bitcomment - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <DB42> it's something -27-k7 at the end..
[09:41] <Hans-Martin> peace-keeper: because win-xp is kindergarden, and linux is for real men :-)
[09:41] <shut-> !bitlord
[09:41] <Gosty> Somniis: but there is only libapache2-mod-php5
[09:41] <erUSUL> peace-keeper: bittorrent is where every other program you install is, somewhere in your $PATH. just launch it from terminal or Apps>Internet
[09:41] <fildo_> peace-keeper: complicated no .. free and open . yes
[09:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bitlord - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <shut-> :(
[09:41] <kmaynard> peace-keeper: i would say it keeps the n00bs out, but i've been here long enough to know better
[09:41] <javaJake> FOr everyone: does anyone know how to pipe data from RAM to a file?
[09:41] <krazykit> peace-keeper: because it's new to you and you're not comfortable with what you're doing.  whenever i'm in a windows machine, i think, "why is everything 3 times as complicated as linux"
[09:41] <gnomefreak> DB42: what does uname -r sayu
[09:41] <gnomefreak> -u
[09:41] <gnomefreak> uname -r
[09:41] <fildo_> shut-: azereus
[09:42] <fildo_> for bit torrent
[09:42] <javaJake> There must be a special file that represents RAM???
[09:42] <DB42> gnomefreak: i need to make it work no ?
[09:42] <shut-> !azereus
[09:42] <DB42> this is the same comp.. to tell you that i need to reboot
[09:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about azereus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:42] <shut-> lol
[09:42] <shut-> ok
[09:42] <wols> !azureus
[09:42] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[09:42] <LjL> javaJake, no, if you only copy that "maps" file and the other ones in /proc, you don't get the actual memory contents. that's in /dev/mem, and will change together with your RAM... you could save the whole of that, of course, but it'd be *kind of* big
[09:42] <peace-keeper> no it's not new to me, it's much slower than windows, it crashes every few hours, and it's very very complicated
[09:42] <shut-> so do sudo apt-get install azereus
[09:42] <peace-keeper> and of course thats all my fault
[09:42] <Gosty> Hi There! I have installed Apache 1.3 server and i haven't got PHP mod. I want to PHP5 but i can't find it with apt-cache search. Please help me if i want to lower some PHP script it ask me for download the script. Please Please help ME!!!!!
[09:42] <kmaynard> peace-keeper: apple?
[09:42] <gnomefreak> shut-: yes
[09:42] <fildo_> peace-keeper: i think the user is the problem .
[09:42] <javaJake> LjL, 128 MB RAM + 512 Swap shouldn't be too bad
[09:42] <LjL> javaJake: though if you have, say, half a gig of RAM, and your HD isn't 99% full, you might even try that ;)
[09:42] <javaJake> :)
[09:42] <Blissex> Gosty: check on the wiki...
[09:42] <nexeus> i find utorrnet better
[09:42] <javaJake> LjL, I think I will
[09:42] <kmaynard> may be time to switch
[09:43] <wols> Gosty: unlikely that there is php5 for apache 1.3
[09:43] <LjL> javaJake: well, hopefully the mplayer cache is in RAM and not in the swap
[09:43] <javaJake> Oh, well, swap is being used a lot too
[09:43] <Gosty> wols: i can't find libapache-mod-php5
[09:43] <peace-keeper> yeah that's what the world needs.. a system that keeps "noobs" out and where the user is the problem
[09:43] <javaJake> Since I've got oowriter, xterm, gnome-terminal, firefox, and xchat open
[09:43] <javaJake> :)
[09:43] <javaJake> On 128 MB RAM
[09:43] <DB42> welp
[09:43] <DB42> i'll try messsing more
[09:43] <DB42> bbl
[09:43] <LjL> javaJake: with 128MB, i'm sure it is... i've never really managed to use Ubuntu on 128MB, honestly =)
[09:43] <knixtech> Does anyone have any info on installing open-xchange on ubuntu 6.06?
[09:43] <shut-> i get E: Broken Package
[09:44] <javaJake> LjL, Well, it WORKS with plenty of swap!!!
[09:44] <LjL> javaJake: anyway, to dump your RAM, i'd use the command "sudo dd if=/dev/mem of=file-of-your-choice"
[09:44] <gnomefreak> knixtech: open-exchange? for evolution?
[09:44] <javaJake> LjL, OK
[09:44] <javaJake> LjL, Don't I want to copy this map file too?
[09:44] <LjL> javaJake: that it "works", i have no doubts. that's it's *usable*, hmmm
[09:44] <knixtech> gnomefreak, nah, to set up the server
[09:44] <gnomefreak> shut-: give full error on pastebin please
[09:44] <Horrible> woodgrain: can you please look a bit in the private window ?
[09:44] <javaJake> LjL, It is usable
[09:44] <wols> Gosty: look for libapache2-mod-php5. and STOP the stupid yelling
[09:44] <javaJake> As usable as the desktop!
[09:44] <javaJake> Oh, wait... I have 192 MB RAM
[09:44] <shut-> ok
[09:44] <LjL> javaJake: yes, you do, otherwise you'll have a hard time finding the right place... but just use the "cp" command for that one
[09:45] <Gosty> wols: but i have Apache 1.3 i don't want Apache2 now
[09:45] <Uriku> exit
[09:45] <Uriku> ...
[09:45] <shut-> !pastebin
[09:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:45] <LjL> javaJake: ah, 192 is starting to be more reasonable. i actually found that around 180MB is the limit of "usability", when i tested it a little with VMWare
[09:45] <wols> Gosty: then you will go without php5. have a good day
[09:45] <javaJake> dd: reading `/dev/mem': Operation not permitted
[09:45] <javaJake> 2056+0 records in
[09:45] <javaJake> 2056+0 records out
[09:45] <javaJake> 1052672 bytes (1.1 MB) copied, 0.151439 seconds, 7.0 MB/s
[09:46] <LjL> javaJake: uh, did you use sudo?
[09:46] <javaJake> Oops, sorry about the flood
[09:46] <javaJake> Yea
[09:46] <SonicChao> How do you change the $HOSTNAME ?
[09:46] <javaJake> sudo dd if=/dev/mem of=mplayerramdata
[09:46] <woodgrain> Horrible, I didn't get a pvt ... try again.
[09:46] <LjL> javaJake: ok, you're right
[09:46] <SonicChao> like sonicchao@sonicchao-laptop and sonicchao-laptop I want to be something else?
[09:46] <zoredache> SonicChao: update the file /etc/hostname and then  run /etc/init.d/hostname.sh ?
[09:46] <zoredache> oh, and relogin
[09:46] <SonicChao> Ok
[09:47] <javaJake> What if I just "cat /dev/mem > mem"?
[09:47] <LjL> javaJake: weird, neither dd, nor cat, nor cp work... but hd does
[09:47] <Gosty> wols: stupid human behaviour
[09:47] <LjL> javaJake: tried that, operation not permitted
[09:47] <marshall> hey guys
[09:47] <javaJake> cat works... ?
[09:47] <Lam_> what are all of the general packages do i need in order to compile programs?  (gcc, make, build-essential, etc...)
[09:47] <javaJake> Except it ruined my terminal
[09:47] <mon^rch> how can i install java in edgy???
[09:47] <marshall> how do you get "Computer", the trash bin and home folder on your desktop?
[09:47] <javaJake> Oh!
[09:48] <javaJake> Piping doesn't work
[09:48] <javaJake> But plain printing does
[09:48] <javaJake> ??????
[09:48] <LjL> javaJake: yes, i've found out that as well
[09:48] <johns^> marshall: use the gconf editor
[09:48] <bluefox83> marshall, are you using windows?
[09:48] <LjL> javaJake: (in other words, i just scr*wed up my console ;)
[09:48] <Lam_> what happens when a program says i don't have a package while configuirng it and when i check apt-get, it tells me i have the latest version
[09:48] <javaJake> LOL
[09:48] <marshall> bluefox83, no, ubuntu
[09:48] <ivaldi> Lam_: build-essential contains gcc, make, and so on :)
[09:48] <marshall> johns^, ok
[09:48] <bluefox83> marshall, then you don't need them
[09:48] <Lam_> ivaldi: neat. thanks :)
[09:48] <erUSUL> !icons
[09:48] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[09:49] <erUSUL> !icons > marshall
[09:49] <javaJake> LjL, now the song is at position 30%
[09:49] <javaJake> LjL, not that the RAM markers changed... just the song's position
[09:49] <shut-> http://pastebin.ca/184312
[09:49] <javaJake> (Oh yea, did I mention that? The music is constantly "moving through" the RAM)
[09:49] <ivaldi> Lam_: np :)
[09:49] <javaJake> This is strange...
[09:49] <LjL> javaJake: wait, how do you know that?
[09:50] <javaJake> Well, I sorta hypothesised
[09:50] <javaJake> :)
[09:50] <LjL> javaJake: oh and by the way, "sudo cat /dev/mem >/dev/dsp" does work. strangely.
[09:50] <javaJake> Considering that the cache size remains the same, but the music itself goes through the cache like on a conveyer belt
[09:50] <shut-> Please be willing to wait we are helping on are free will lol
[09:50] <javaJake> Dare I try?
[09:50] <javaJake> Device or resource busy
[09:51] <LjL> javaJake: nah... even if you've "just" got 192 megs, it'll take hours to listen through all of it =)
[09:51] <javaJake> LOL
[09:51] <LjL> javaJake: hm? well that's possibly because mplayer is keeping /dev/dsp busy.
[09:52] <javaJake> Hmmm
[09:52] <javaJake> cp doesn't work
[09:52] <fildo_> cp ?
[09:53] <marshall> erUSUL, thanks
[09:53] <samir85> hey, can somebody here help me to install the new alsa drivers in my ubuntu ?
[09:53] <javaJake> LjL, Try this: cat /dev/mem | grep /dev/urandom
[09:53] <javaJake> That works?
[09:54] <gnomefreak> java does cat /etc/apt/sources.list work?
[09:54] <LjL> javaJake: uhm, while browsing to find the reason for this, i encountered a newsgroup posting that warns that *reading* (not writing, just reading) from /dev/mem can be dangerous.
[09:54] <javaJake> gnomefreak, yes
[09:54] <gnomefreak> or ljl whomever the issue is with
[09:54] <javaJake> LjL, Oh, really
[09:54] <javaJake> LjL, RATS
[09:54] <LjL> javaJake: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.unix.sco.misc/browse_thread/thread/ad3d0828e808a32c/3159236f1b613140?lnk=st&q=%22dd+if%3D%2Fdev%2Fmem%22&rnum=7#3159236f1b613140
[09:55] <Lam_> one of the programs requires that i have wireless-tools >= 28pre9, and ubuntu installed wireless-tools 27+28pre13.  is there a way to override or fix the error because my program won't compile unless it detects said version
[09:55] <marnanel> So I found out I had a page about me in Launchpad already. If I register, do I get to write stuff there?
[09:55] <Lam_> i'm assuming it read the 27 first before realizing that it meets requirements
[09:55] <LjL> javaJake: about the grep /dev/urandom thing, what would that do? as far as i can read, it would just search for the *string* "/dev/urandom" inside of the contents of /dev/mem...
[09:56] <javaJake> Yea... but all the same, I thought it was interesting it read it
[09:56] <LjL> javaJake: and it still doesn't work anyway)
[09:56] <javaJake> That post does mention a way to safely copy...
[09:56] <samir85> hey, can somebody here help me to install the new alsa drivers in my ubuntu ? (please its very urgent)
[09:57] <LjL> javaJake: i didn't read the whole of it... but anyway it seems to say you have to boot your system in a specific way?
[09:57] <javaJake> I guess
[09:57] <javaJake> Well, next time I'll tell mplayer to save to a file
[09:57] <javaJake> :(
[09:57] <LjL> javaJake: (and i don't think it's talking about Linux, but another Unix)
[09:58] <javaJake> Just wish there was a simple silly little alsa special file that I could pipe the current audio to a file
[09:58] <javaJake> It seems simple enough...
[09:59] <morrye> How do you install java and all its libraries on ubuntu?
[09:59] <Kyral> !java
[09:59] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:59] <Lam_> !dependencies
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dependencies - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <morrye> I have the compiler
[09:59] <javaJake> LOL, you must get this Java question a bunch of times. :D
[09:59] <morrye> but it doesn't have all the libraries, such as swing
[09:59] <Kyral> Dunno
[10:00] <Kyral> I dispise Java
[10:00] <lipeuk> Hi guys! I'm with a laptop and I've just installed ubuntu on it. When I start it, nothing has came up so far. Just this msg... Mounting root file system. I have got a sata hard driver.
[10:00] <javaJake> morrye, I have it installed on my system using sun-java package in the multiverse repositories
[10:00] <javaJake> It works like a dream... after you run update-alternatives --config java
[10:01] <Kyral> Don't use Java, use Ruby :P
[10:01] <javaJake> Kyral, why!?
[10:01] <morrye> javaJake: What option do I use?
[10:01] <Kyral> Anything Java does, Ruby does better
[10:01] <morrye> Kyral: Don't be stupid.
[10:02] <javaJake> morrye, what do you mean?
[10:02] <Kyral> huh?
[10:02] <javaJake> ROFL
[10:02] <morrye> javaJake: It comes up with 3 options after running that command.
[10:02] <Kyral> Ruby is so flexible
[10:02] <morrye> Kyral: I wouldn't use ruby if it was the only language
[10:02] <javaJake> morrye, use the option that has "sun" in it
[10:02] <Celeste> Can it slow down my system *anyhow* when I install the "kubuntu-desktop" on  "Ubuntu" or  the  "ubuntu-desktop" on "kubuntu" ?
[10:02] <javaJake> Kyral, how?
[10:02] <Celeste> Sombody told me it could
[10:02] <Celeste> thats why I ask
[10:02] <Kyral> Its like the best of Java combined with the best of Perl combined with the best of Python combined with the best of Shell Scripting...
[10:03] <gnomefreak> Kyral: and javaJake dont go there if you want to talk about what one is better join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:03] <javaJake> Kyral, ah, I see... another one of them Java variants. Ick.
[10:03] <Kyral> javaJake: hehe its more Perl + OO :P
[10:03] <javaJake> Kyral, your version may be better, I admit, but this version is more universal, and I know this one will work on nearly every computer
[10:03] <morrye> javaJake: Thats just messed up the compiler, did you use a guide on how to install?
[10:03] <gandalfcome> how do I mount a ntfs drive (for example) that is readable from a normal user account as well? thanks in advance
[10:03] <kfm82> hi all. i want to setup dual head graphics on my ubuntu 6.06 tls i386 pentium 4 notebook using nvida geforce go 440 gfx.... do i first apt-get xinerama?
[10:04] <morrye> Kyral: Good :)
[10:04] <Myxo> alright, can someone here help me since no one in the kubuntu channel will? I need to get my wireless card working on my laptop, I have the drivers installed using ndiswrapper and it seemed to work the other day (i could see networks in the area using iwlist), but now iwconfig doesn't even recognize any wireless devices.
[10:04] <Kyral> Doesn't mean I like Java :P
[10:04] <morrye> Kyral: Can you program non-computer applications in Ruby?
[10:04] <Kyral> "non-computer"?
[10:05] <gnomefreak> guys its offtopic
[10:05] <morrye> Kyral: lifts
[10:05] <Hans-Martin> Myxo: what kind of card is it (manufacturer, model?)
[10:05] <Hooveyy> Ah, it's an op! /me runs
[10:05] <Kyral> I get it *shuts up*
[10:05] <Myxo> Linksys wpc54g v.3
[10:05] <Citizin> I just followed a guide to enable my video card over my onboard intel, well, it only shows one screen resolution, anyone know how to fix this?
[10:05] <lipeuk> Hi guys! I'm with a laptop and I've just installed ubuntu on it. When I start it, nothing has came up so far. Just this msg... Mounting root file system. I have got a sata hard driver.
[10:06] <morrye> How do you install the latest version of sun java on ubuntu?
[10:06] <d2812> Hi. When I type the following command "sudo cd keys/" I get the error message "sudo: cd: command not found". Any ideas whats happening?
[10:06] <Henry_Bean> hi, somebody could tell me how to set a module option to alsa?
[10:06] <Citizin> sudo: isn't a comment
[10:06] <Citizin> try "sudo" instead
[10:06] <Citizin> without the :
[10:06] <gnomefreak> morrye: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin   it will grab -bin and -jre
[10:06] <Citizin> Can anyone help me with my screen resolution problem?
[10:06] <Lam_> one of the programs requires that i have wireless-tools >= 28pre9, and ubuntu installed wireless-tools 27+28pre13.  is there a way to override or fix the error because my program won't compile unless it detects said version
[10:07] <Citizin> !ask screen resolution
[10:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask screen resolution - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:07] <gnomefreak> !fixres
[10:07] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:07] <Citizin> !screen resolutions
[10:07] <ubotu> screen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.2-4.1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 566 kB, installed size 976 kB
[10:07] <twopoint0> when i use nautilus to try and move files to /usr/share/xmms/skins it tells me i dont have permission, how can i extract the files I want, to that directory, with sudo
[10:07] <d2812> Citizin : I'm typing "sudo cd keys/"
[10:07] <Henry_Bean> !ask module
[10:07] <kmaynard> !man
[10:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask module - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:07] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:07] <Henry_Bean> !module
[10:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about module - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:07] <gandalfcome> !mount
[10:07] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[10:07] <Citizin> !nvidia
[10:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:08] <kmaynard> !bitchx
[10:08] <ubotu> bitchx: Advanced Internet Relay Chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-4 (dapper), package size 1467 kB, installed size 6476 kB
[10:08] <kmaynard> rock
[10:08] <morrye> gnomefreak: I already have the latest version installed, but it doesn't come with all the libraries, I am assuming swing is used in the java linux enviroment.
[10:08] <gnomefreak> guys stop playing with the bot
[10:08] <Hans-Martin> Myxo: have you set up ndiswrapper to do its thing on reboot?
[10:08] <gnomefreak> morrye: swing might be in the jdk package
[10:08] <morrye> gnomefreak: How would I aquire this? (very new to linux)
[10:08] <LinAsH> d2812, same here, type sudo su if you need to be root or just cd if you have rights
[10:09] <gnomefreak> morrye: package is called sun-java5-jdk
[10:09] <Hans-Martin> Myxo: and what does iwconfig say? does it show the interface?
[10:09] <gnomefreak> !java > morrye
[10:09] <ladydoor> d2812: or use sudo -i
[10:09] <Citizin> Can anyone help me add more screen resolutions to my nvidia card?
[10:09] <Myxo> yeah, I did "echo ndiswrapper >> /etc/modules"
[10:09] <Citizin> xorg.conf is still showing for the name my old onboard intel
[10:09] <Citizin> but my nvidia is enabled right now
[10:09] <gnomefreak> !fixres > Citizin
[10:09] <morrye> gnomefreak: Thanks for your help!
[10:09] <Citizin> !fixres
[10:09] <d2812> LinAsH: Any ideas why sudo doesnt like cd?
[10:09] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:09] <Myxo> iwconfig just shows says no wireless interface is present and has an ethernet interface.
[10:09] <gnomefreak> Citizin: read yoru pm
[10:09] <gnomefreak> your*
[10:10] <Citizin> gnomefreak, last time I wen't through this it messed up my xorg.conf and I was forced to reinstall ubuntu, but sense im on a fresh install I guess that don't matter this time.
[10:10] <LinAsH> d2812, it's a shell integrated command
[10:11] <ladydoor> d2812: because in most cases a simple "cd" should suffice (with a few exceptions) and so i think that's why it didn't get put in sudo's $PATH. or something.
[10:11] <LinAsH> (not a program in /bin)
[10:11] <ladydoor> d2812: actually, what LinAsH said.
[10:11] <Hans-Martin> Myxo: sorry about the iwconfig question - didn't realize that you already said that it does not see teh interface.
[10:11] <LjL> d2812: why would you want to use sudo to cd anyway? =)
[10:11] <Myxo> that's okay, I'm just happy to get some help with this
[10:11] <Hans-Martin> Myxo: so iwconfig probably sees the built-in ethernet interface
[10:11] <ladydoor> LjL: some dirs are restricted so that only root may enter them.
[10:11] <LjL> ladydoor: well, in that case, a "sudo -i" might be reasonable
[10:11] <d2812> LjL : cause the directory is owned by root. Any i prefer not chowning them, if I can learn how to make sud work :)
[10:12] <Myxo> i got this laptop so I could do programming assignments for school but I can't even get the damn thing to connect to the internet
[10:12] <ladydoor> d2812: yeah, go for sudo -i
[10:12] <LjL> d2812: use "sudo -i". remember to type "exit" when you're finished
[10:12] <ladydoor> !language
[10:12] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:12] <d2812> Any others which dont work with sudo?
[10:12] <Myxo> err, sorry
[10:12] <morrye> How do you search for a list of packages via the terminal?
[10:12] <LjL> morrye: "apt-cache search blah"
[10:12] <knixtech> !postfix
[10:12] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[10:13] <ladydoor> morrye: apt-cache search foo bar
[10:13] <Hans-Martin> Myxo: have you looked at the output of dmesg? does it say anything about ndiswrapper or your card?
[10:13] <crweb> how do i fix all my   perl: warning: Setting locale failed.   messages?
[10:14] <d2812> Right, I'm off. Thanks LinAsH, ladydoor and LjL :)
[10:14] <Myxo> One moment, I'll check that.
[10:14] <DB42> hi
[10:14] <TIM90> hi
[10:14] <DB42> ok, i've booted into linux, but now each time i boot, the grub menu doesnt come up, and i need to manually write anything...
[10:15] <DB42> what do i need to do ? (i've changed menu.lst)
[10:15] <tim_> Hi all, how can I write songs to my ipod with rhytmbox (.9.4.1)? I can see the ipod there and play songs from it, but can't add to it from my library
[10:15] <tim_> any ideas?
[10:15] <TIM90> what happend before that did you change any settings ,if so which ones
[10:15] <LjL> DB42: perhaps put back the original copy of menu.lst? ;-)
[10:15] <DB42> original copy ? huh ?
[10:16] <LjL> DB42: you said you changed it
[10:16] <DB42> i needed to edit it cause of changing the partition table
[10:16] <DB42> ...
[10:16] <LjL> DB42: changing it in what way? you moved root to another partition?
[10:16] <DB42> yes
[10:16] <DB42> why else would i change menu.lst
[10:16] <LjL> DB42: well, can you pastebin a copy of menu.lst?
[10:16] <DB42> do i need to do something ?
[10:16] <ladydoor> DB42: when you edit an important file, you NEED to make a backup
[10:16] <TIM90> Db42  do what ljl tell you
[10:16] <LjL> DB42: how could i know why you would :o)
[10:17] <DB42> what backup ? i changed /dev/sda7 to /dev/sda5 and the (hd0,6 to ,5)
[10:17] <DB42> ,4
[10:17] <Myxo> Hans-Martin: what would I be looking for exactly in dmesg?
[10:17] <DB42> sec...
[10:17] <kitche> DB42: you know backup the menu.lst to let say menu.lst.bak
[10:17] <DB42> but i didnt HARM it
[10:17] <DB42> blah
[10:17] <DB42> forget it
[10:17] <DB42> http://pastebin.ca/184339
[10:17] <DB42> here
[10:18] <TIM90> but you did change it
[10:18] <LjL> DB42: well but, i think Grub expects to find some files in a specific partition (the root partition, usually)... if you by any chance forgot to indicate *that* change, Grub might get confused and not load the menu. just a guess. let's see
[10:18] <Hans-Martin> Myxo: anything with ndiswrapper, first
[10:18] <DB42> ok, cool, how do i re-state it
[10:18] <TIM90> always back up if you going to do any thing to the file
[10:18] <gansinho> anyone ever dealt with pocket pc's in linux?
[10:18] <DB42> i re-installed the kernel, do i need to reinstall grub ?
[10:19] <Hans-Martin> Myxo: try "dmesg|fgrep ndiswrapper"
[10:19] <Myxo> ndiswrapper version 1.8 loaded (preempt=yes, smp=no)
[10:19] <LjL> DB42: you reinstalled it *on another partition*, i think that is the problem
[10:19] <erUSUL> DB42: no you shouldn't
[10:19] <DB42> what to do ?
[10:19] <DB42> i reinstalled it on this partitioj
[10:19] <DB42> n
[10:19] <Paddy_EIRE> hey gals and guys , does anyone know how difficult it would be to install Photoshop 7 on ubuntu
[10:19] <DB42> after modding the menu.lst defaults
[10:20] <samir85> hey, can somebody here help me to install the new alsa drivers in my ubuntu ? (please its very urgent)
[10:20] <Sprafa> hay guys
[10:20] <kmaynard> Paddy_EIRE: seriously?
[10:20] <kitche> DB42: what did you edit the ubuntu one?
[10:20] <LjL> DB42: well, off hand, i can't see anything too bad in your menu.lst...
[10:20] <DB42> i'm sure it's not bad
[10:20] <DB42> kitche, yes
[10:20] <DB42> i think i need to reinstall grub or so
[10:20] <Sprafa> can anyone tell me
[10:20] <Sprafa> how to uninstall ubuntu
[10:20] <samir85> hey can somebody here PLEASE help me with those damn alsa drivers ?!
[10:20] <TIM90> paddy ubuntu has an application that's similar to photo shop
[10:20] <Sprafa> as in
[10:20] <gord> apprently photoshop works 7 works okay via wine Paddy_EIRE
[10:20] <Sprafa> i know i can just erase the partitions
[10:21] <kitche> DB42: well grub doesn't need to be reinstalled only lilo does
[10:21] <Sprafa> but what about the dual boot
[10:21] <marshall> does anybody know where to get gdesklets?
[10:21] <gord> Paddy_EIRE, have a look at this http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1336
[10:21] <ladydoor> marshall: the repositories
[10:21] <DB42> so what is the prob.. why doesnt it say an error or something
[10:21] <marshall> the official site is pathetic
[10:21] <DB42> so i can know whats his prob
[10:21] <samir85> come on guys talk to me !
[10:21] <gansinho> does anybody could help me installing a driver to make ubuntu recognize my pocket pc?
[10:21] <kmaynard> Sprafa: in windows, fdisk /mbr
[10:21] <keith80403> Is all the source code for Ubuntu GPL like all of Debian is ?
[10:21] <Lunar_Lamp> marshall - sudo aptitude install gdesklets
[10:21] <ladydoor> marshall: sudo aptitude install gdesklets gdesklets-data
[10:21] <Paddy_EIRE> kmaynard: I know of The GIMP but the course I am doing is using photoshop 7 and there is no point in not having my work done for the sake of not yet knowing how to do things in the gimp
[10:21] <wols_> Sprafa: just delete the partition and rewrite your boot sector of the harddisk (fixmbr in a XP recovery consly for example)
[10:21] <marshall> ladydoor, i mean the desklets
[10:21] <LjL> DB42: well, to reinstall grub, it's "grub-install /dev/whatever". i'm not sure it's what you need, but perhaps you might try.
[10:21] <Hans-Martin> Myxo: nothing more? then it probably did not load the driver. Or did you just cite the first line?
[10:21] <Sprafa> hm
[10:21] <kmaynard> Paddy_EIRE: you may wanna look into crossover office
[10:21] <DB42> LjL, : i'll try, thanks
[10:21] <ladydoor> marshall: if i recall from my brief stint attempting to use gnome, the desklets came with it
[10:21] <DB42> is there any file besides menu.lst that has partition definitions ?
[10:22] <wols_> DB42: what with the initrd. do you have one now?
[10:22] <DB42> yes
[10:22] <samir85> um, hello ?
[10:22] <marshall> ladydoor, what do you use?
[10:22] <DB42> after adding it i was able to boot
[10:22] <ladydoor> marshall: either gdesklets or gdesklets-data contains them
[10:22] <DB42> but grub isnt auto-booting
[10:22] <Hans-Martin> Myxo: on my system (I have a not-so-well working netgear card, plus a good old OriNOCO) it says "ndiswrapper: driver wg311v3 (NETGEAR,02/22/2005,3.1.1.7) loaded" and some more
[10:22] <TIM90> paddy i dont think that posable ,
[10:22] <ladydoor> marshall: ratpoison, but that's offtopic. *shrug*
[10:22] <LjL> DB42: note that (IIRC!) the "/dev/whatever" is the device, not the partition. so "/dev/sda", and not "/dev/sda5"
[10:22] <wols_> DB42: define "autobooting". does the grub menu come up?
[10:22] <LjL> DB42: at least that's if you want it in the MBR
[10:22] <samir85> hey can somebody here PLEASE help me with those damn alsa drivers ?!
[10:22] <LjL> wols_: no
[10:22] <DB42> LjL, nah.. i'm not using it in MBR
[10:22] <DB42> wols_, no
[10:23] <DB42> i get the prompt
[10:23] <DB42> and need to manually write the stuff
[10:23] <LjL> DB42: oh -- well then, stupid question perhaps, but have you set the current root partition to be the active partition, when you switched?
[10:23] <wols_> DB42: then your menu.lst is not found or fubar or whatever.
[10:23] <DB42> ljl: no, since i use XP bootloader :)
[10:23] <LjL> DB42: argh.
[10:24] <DB42> wols_, how does it know where to search ? is it written in the boot sector or something ?
[10:24] <DB42> hmm.. it prolly is
[10:24] <wols_> DB42: afaik yes
[10:24] <DB42> i'll retry it
[10:24] <DB42> thanks
[10:24] <lwizardl> how do I make multipart rars in linux?
[10:24] <DB42> btw, anybody got vista installed here?
[10:24] <wols_> samir85: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html you REALLY need it. as a hin: never ask to ask
[10:24] <kitche> DB42: just so you know linux can't boot from the windows bootloader, unless you do some modifiying of boot.ini
[10:24] <wols_> DB42: offtopic
[10:25] <DB42> kitche, i've been doing it for years, so i know :)
[10:25] <Paddy_EIRE> Question number 2, I love my ubuntu install but i decided to install OpenSuse 10.1 on my second hd and the suse grub/boot loader has replaced my ubuntu one.  Is there a simple way I can re-install the ubuntu grub back with suse as an option in that
[10:25] <LjL> DB42: not that it's my business, but why're you doing that? people usually use grub *to* boot windows, not vice versa...
[10:25] <samir85> ok thanks, i didnt intent to be rude, its just them for the last 30 minutes the whole channel is ignoring me ;)
[10:25] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE: you can add ubuntu as an otion tu suse's. it sounds easier
[10:25] <samir85> and i really need to get my damn sound working ;)
[10:25] <erUSUL> to*
[10:26] <DB42> ljl, dont remember, i think it's related to being burnt with grub once when it was on MBR
[10:26] <segfault_> Paddy_EIRE,  read man grub-install, then u have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to add suse
[10:26] <gansinho> where I configure ubuntu bluetooth options?
[10:26] <DB42> and the current setup works pretty good to me
[10:26] <Paddy_EIRE> erUSUL: its in suses although i dont like it
[10:26] <wols_> samir85: because you never asked a meaningful question or stated a problem. read the url I gave you
[10:26] <Paddy_EIRE> segfault_: k
[10:26] <TIM90> sair85 what your sound card
[10:26] <Sergemine> is it the channel for Dapper. Hallo
[10:27] <Sergemine> ?
[10:27] <LjL> yes Sergemine
[10:27] <Sergemine> great
[10:27] <Sergemine> Guys, here's a damn question. Sorry googled a lot, still didn't find an answer. Almost every time I try to install a good piece of software from www.getdeb.net or other place it keep saying: need libpango1.0-0 (>=1.12.3) but 1.12.2-0ubuntu3 is installed! I disparately need this  1.12.3! What's the trick? It is not there in @ packages.ubuntu.com . and the one from packages.debian.org doesn't get installed either! Someone help me pls!
[10:27] <erUSUL> Sergemine: yes it is (see /topic)
[10:27] <Sergemine> oops
[10:27] <LjL> Sergemine: that's because .debs made for Debian are not necessarily compatible with Ubuntu
[10:27] <Sergemine> i'l fix it
[10:28] <erUSUL> Sergemine: which is the software you tr to install?
[10:28] <Sergemine> Guys, here's a damn question. Sorry googled a lot, still didn't find an answer.
[10:28] <Sergemine> Almost every time I try to install a good piece of software from www.getdeb.net or other place it keep saying: need libpango1.0-0 (>=1.12.3) but 1.12.2-0ubuntu3 is installed!
[10:28] <wols_> Sergemine: look in edgy, make a backport
[10:28] <eyS_c0ld> dapper default install, on a laptop... installed totem-xine and xine-ui however when running totem to play Xvid states its not supported.. found a few things on google with people having the same problem but no solutions presented... cananyone point me in the right direction?
[10:28] <Sergemine> I disparately need this  1.12.3! What's the trick? It is not there in @ packages.ubuntu.com .
[10:28] <erUSUL> !repeat > Sergemine
[10:28] <segfault_> Sergemine, u could try an edgy packge for that but will likely require other dependencies
[10:28] <Sergemine> and the one from packages.debian.org doesn't get installed either! Someone help me pls!
[10:28] <samir85> yeah i know how to ask questions. Here's my issue: My microphone isnt working (intel-hda ich7 familiy soundcard). Thus i tried to manually compile the new alsa-drivers 1.0.13rc3, but when i type  cat /proc/asound/version i still get alsa version 1.0.10 @ wols_
[10:28] <Bazzi> eyS_c0ld: enable universe+mutliverse repositories and then install gstreamer-plugins or libxine-extracodecs
[10:29] <morrye> Is there a editor on linux which you can edit language color coding?
[10:29] <LjL> Sergemine, you're trying to install software that requires newer version of stuff than the one that's in Ubuntu. you simply can't do that, unless you use Edgy as you've been told (but note that Edgy is unstable and might/will break)
[10:29] <Arrick> What is the name for installing the irrsi client?
[10:29] <kmaynard> morrye: gvim
[10:29] <Sergemine> edgy one would be a loot
[10:29] <kmaynard> !gvim
[10:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gvim - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:29] <samir85> hopefully i described my issue this time precicly enough ;)
[10:29] <eyS_c0ld> Bazzi what file do i change to enables those repos?
[10:29] <LjL> Sergemine: you need packages from the Ubuntu repositories, not from the Debian repositories
[10:29] <Sergemine> but everybody seems to have it
[10:29] <morrye> kmaynard: Thanks
[10:29] <erUSUL> Sergemine: which is the software you try to install?
[10:30] <Sergemine> all new packages come with this dependancy
[10:30] <segfault_> samir85, alsa drivers are in the kernel, ull need to replace the kernel module with ur new compiled driver
[10:30] <kmaynard> morrye: actually either vim-gnome or vim-gtk
[10:30] <Bazzi> eyS_c0ld: /etc/apt/sources.list universe is already there but commented out, and add multiverse to that then
[10:30] <kmaynard> morrye: vim-gnome
[10:30] <DB42> tnx later
[10:30] <kmaynard> !vim-gnome
[10:30] <TIM90> try turning all the volumes up that what i found was the mian problem on my soud card (all the volumes mic every thing )
[10:30] <ubotu> vim-gnome: Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor - with GNOME2 GUI. In component main, is extra. Version 1:6.4-006+2ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 695 kB, installed size 1444 kB
[10:30] <kmaynard> !vim-gtk
[10:30] <ubotu> vim-gtk: Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor - with GTK2 GUI. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:6.4-006+2ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 694 kB, installed size 1440 kB
[10:30] <wols_> samir85: unload the 1.0.10 manually, and insmod the new ones manually. if they load, then overwrite the old files for 1.0.10 in /lib/modules/
[10:30] <Sergemine> glipper_0.89-getdeb1_i386.deb
[10:30] <LjL> Sergemine, "all" packages don't, because many packages don't even require that libpango. but anyway, you really need to use Ubuntu-specific packages for most purposes.
[10:30] <Arrick> !irssi
[10:30] <ubotu> irssi is a command line interface IRC client ( "sudo apt-get install irssi" without the quotes to try it out )
[10:30] <Sergemine> mesk_0.2.1-getdeb1_i386.deb
[10:30] <Sergemine> and lots others
[10:31] <samir85> yeah actually i followed this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto to accomplish that
[10:31] <Arrick> ok i got that, how do i start irssi?
[10:31] <Sergemine> does anyone use the 6.06.1 version ?
[10:31] <gansinho> guys, I really need some help, I use my pocket pc for work, and I need it synching with my ubuntu, I couldn't follow the how to in the forum because ubuntu does not have the driver for it... it is recognized but does not have the driver. ...
[10:31] <wols_> Arrick: "irrsi"
[10:31] <kmaynard> morrye: i think the gnome text editor does highlighting too...might wanna check
[10:31] <segfault_> Sergemine, other thing u could do is get the src for the pkgs u want and compile them for ur system and the version of software u have
[10:31] <Arrick> thanks
[10:31] <eyS_c0ld> bazzi i already added universe... there is no line for multiverse... where can i find the repo?
[10:31] <erUSUL> Sergemine: as LjL said if you want edge software you have to try unstable distributions
[10:31] <wols_> gansinho: then get a driver
[10:31] <Sergemine> what is the libpango1.0-0 version there >=1.12.3?
[10:32] <Bazzi> eyS_c0ld: just append a space and the word multiverse :-)
[10:32] <Arrick> wols_, how do I join the freenode server in irssi?
[10:32] <LjL> Sergemine: it's a Gnome-related library. the version that's currently in Dapper is too old for those packages.
[10:32] <gansinho> wols_:  yes, I'm stucked at this point =)
[10:32] <Docta> does anyone know how to install something into ubuntu
[10:32] <eyS_c0ld> bazzi thats too simple :-P
[10:32] <LjL> !tell docta about packages
[10:32] <kmaynard> like what
[10:32] <Yaakov> Arrick: You might want to install a couple of scripts for irssi, wlstat.pl and trackbar.pl  (There is a #irssi, and they are helpful).
[10:32] <segfault_> Docta, apt-get install something
[10:32] <samir85> i tell you what i did. 1. download the new alsa-drivers & untar them 2. ./configure --with-cards=hda-intel 3. make 4. sudo make install 5. modprobe snd-hda-intel
[10:32] <morrye> kmaynard: It does but I want to edit what strings are highlighted, does gvim give you the option to do this?
[10:32] <erUSUL> !synaptic > Docta
[10:32] <Dr_willis> Docta,  thje add/remove program item in the menus too hard eh? :P
[10:32] <samir85> did i forget something ?
[10:32] <erUSUL> Docta: check the ubotu pm
[10:32] <necronz> -?
[10:32] <kmaynard> morrye: worth a shot...
[10:32] <Sergemine> but why developers keep producing packages for that version?
[10:32] <necronz>  
[10:33] <Sergemine> all those are aimed to Dapper
[10:33] <Docta> well there have rar for linux and when i fisished unziping it it made a folder with nothing to run
[10:33] <Arrick> Yaakov, I have the xchat at home, however i am remot logging in so I can chat from school
[10:33] <LjL> Sergemine: are you sure they are? i didn't even know about that site, but it seems it contains "experimental" stuff to me
[10:33] <eyS_c0ld> bazzi dont i need to refresh my repos after that? how do i do that?
[10:33] <gansinho> wols_: I need to know first, if there is a driver to dell axim or if I need to install a ipaq driver
[10:33] <ladydoor> Docta: i should hope *someone* does...otherwise, how did any get here???
[10:33] <Sergemine> at least that's what the getdeb.net is suggesting
[10:33] <Yaakov> Arrick: I use irssi + screen and I am very happy with it.
[10:33] <wols_> gansinho: since you didn't even think it necessary WHICH PDA you have, how could anyone help you?
[10:33] <LjL> Sergemine: where does it say they're for Dapper?
[10:33] <Bazzi> eyS_c0ld: sudo aptitude update in console is one way
[10:33] <wols_> gansinho: since I have neither device, how should I know?
[10:33] <Dr_willis> Docta,  how about start at the begining.. what are you trying to install for linux that comes in a .rar file anyway>?
[10:34] <gansinho> wols_: I know my pda brand
[10:34] <TIM90> turned the sound up yet ?
[10:34] <kamui> !pocketpc-gcc
[10:34] <ubotu> pocketpc-gcc: The GNU C compiler for Pocket PC. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.4.2-2 (dapper), package size 3144 kB, installed size 14400 kB
[10:34] <LjL> Sergemine: oh, right, it does say that.
[10:34] <Bazzi> eyS_c0ld: and then sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs
[10:34] <wols_> gansinho: but WE don't so we can't tell you anything duh!
[10:34] <Sergemine> Ubuntu 6.06 (i386):  pcmanf
[10:34] <segfault_> samir85, not sure where make install installs those ull have to read and find out, if they are put int he right /lib/modules dir then u prolly have to modprobe -r ur existing modules then modprobe the new modules, use lsmod to make sure they get removed
[10:34] <eyS_c0ld> Bazzi that works i know i did it from commandline to update before
[10:34] <wols_> gansinho: and it's never the brand or mdel with linux. it's always what chipset it uses
[10:34] <Bazzi> :)
[10:34] <kamui> where can I get some information on using the pocketpc-gcc compiler?  I don't even know how to invoke it
[10:34] <LjL> Sergemine: uh... that "mesk" package installs fine for me!
[10:34] <Docta> theres no install file
[10:34] <Dr_willis> kamui,  tried google yet? :P
[10:34] <gansinho> wols_: I'm not complaining about that, I was just trying to find someone who could help me
[10:35] <LjL> Sergemine: well, it doesn't actually *run*, but it installs
[10:35] <ladydoor> kamui: man pocketpc-gcc
[10:35] <Dr_willis> Docta,  'what is it' you are trying to install.
[10:35] <Sergemine> =)
[10:35] <Sergemine> yeh
[10:35] <kamui> Dr_willis: yes, its only bringing up debian package info
[10:35] <segfault_> Docta, the untarred dir is the prog put the dir where u want and run the executable file in it to runt he prog
[10:35] <ladydoor> kamui: to read the manual.
[10:35] <Paddy_EIRE> why can i not eject a cd all of a sudden
[10:35] <Sergemine> that's what i'm saying
[10:35] <wols_> gansinho: considering you don't give out info, I doubt you will ever find anyone who will be able to
[10:35] <kamui> ladydoor:  doesn't do anything
[10:35] <gansinho> wols_: I know this is not a helpdesk =)
[10:35] <Docta> wah?
[10:35] <Sergemine> is something wrong with my default install?
[10:35] <kamui> ladydoor: there is no man page
[10:35] <ladydoor> kamui: info pocketpc-gcc? wait, you have installed it already, right?
[10:35] <LjL> Sergemine: and i also have libpango version 1.12.2, not 1.12.3... weird
[10:35] <Arrick> hey Yaakov this still doesnt help me with getting the server connected to my irssi screen
[10:36] <morrye> When trying to install something through the terminal I get the error: "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" does anyone know what this means?
[10:36] <kamui> ladydoor: yea, I apt grabbed it
[10:36] <Sergemine> hm
[10:36] <eyS_c0ld> bazzi thank you!
[10:36] <Sergemine> i feel real stupid now
[10:36] <wols_> gansinho: it is a helpdesk of sorts. but you must give the people some pertinent info about your problem before anyone can help you. And you STiLL haven't done that... YOu really don#t want help
[10:36] <segfault_> morrye, sounds like an error in the pkg chk for bugs filed
[10:36] <ladydoor> kamui: well...in that case, google is your friend
[10:36] <gansinho> wols_:  the point is, there is few info about this... so I just came here trying to find someone that had the same issue
[10:36] <Sergemine> but thank you
[10:36] <morrye> segfault: How do I do that?
[10:36] <Sergemine> it was precious info
[10:36] <Docta> im a n00b to this i got linux yesterday so what does linux use instead of .exe
[10:36] <gansinho> wols_: ok I'll be back later then...
[10:37] <Sergemine> LjL, thank you very much
[10:37] <wols_> gansinho: this is a big channel but how likely is it that out of only a 1000 people anoyne has a axim. which you still didn't tell which. good day
[10:37] <ladydoor> Docta: file extensions are optional in linux
[10:37] <morrye> segfault: It the says "Errors were encountered while processing: emacs21 cedet-common eieio speedbar"
[10:37] <LjL> Sergemine: i don't know though, it's strange that it complains about libpango, while it installs fine here
[10:37] <Docta> how
[10:37] <morrye> then*
[10:37] <kamui> ladydoor: Ive tried all of this, the first 2 pages of links are all only debian package info related, nothing relating to use.  There aren't any pages about how to use it.  There must be a better search query, but I've tried pocketpc-gcc, linux pocketpc development, pocketpc-gcc howto pocketpc-gcc faq...
[10:38] <segfault_> morrye, try installing them one at a time to find whcih is causing issue
[10:38] <ladydoor> Docta: you can recognize a binary package by a) its large size and b) its having execute permission (seen with ls -l--it's the "x"), and c) the distinctive green color of the filename.
[10:38] <LjL> Sergemine: uhm, actually, the package *does* say in the dependencies that it needs libpango 1.12.3 ---- still, it installed fine with my 1.12.2 *puzzled*
[10:38] <segfault_> morrye, check for/report bugs here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[10:38] <Sergemine> LjL I should probably install all the updates
[10:38] <Dr_willis> Docta,  you may want to spend some time reading a few linux introduction guides/sites. -
[10:39] <LjL> Sergemine: try that... my guess is that those packages are simply a bit broken, though
[10:39] <kitche> kamui: so man pocketpc-gcc doesn't show anything on your system, and it's not the internet search but do it in your terminal
[10:39] <ladydoor> kamui: try pocketpc-gcc manual or pocketpc-gcc sourceforge
[10:39] <Yaakov> Arrick: screen -U -S <Screen Session Name (e.g.: irssi)> irssi -h <Host to Bind (If needed)> -n <Your Nick>
[10:39] <Yaakov> Arrick: Then, in irssi, /server <server-name>
[10:40] <Arrick> thanks
[10:40] <LjL> where the heck did this getdeb.net site come from anyway?
[10:40] <ladydoor> Yaakov: of course, you could just put an option to start irssi in your .screenrc and setup default servers to connect to in irssi...
[10:40] <kamui> kitche: there is no man/info page for any of the pocketpc-gcc related packages.  I checked the /usr/share/doc/ pages, their only copywrite info
[10:40] <Yaakov> Arrick: Then, you can CTRL-A, CTRL-D to detach, and screen -x <session name> to reconnect (even multiple times)
[10:40] <Sergemine> ok LjL thank you again. I will leave now.
[10:40] <Arrick> ok
[10:40] <Yaakov> ladydoor: Yes, mostly this is a "get him started" dump.  I think he needs to learn more.
[10:41] <ladydoor> Yaakov: oh, i see. sorry
[10:41] <Yaakov> ladydoor: I use a shell script to maintain the connection if it drops, and other niceness.
[10:41] <Yaakov> ladydoor: No, you are right.  BUT, this is OFF-TOPIC!
[10:41] <lipeuk> Hi guys! I'm with a laptop and I've just installed ubuntu on it. When I start it, nothing has came up so far. Just this msg... Mounting root file system. I have got a sata hard driver.
[10:41] <Docta> ahh ladydoor what was i to do to make .exe opition
[10:41] <kamui> ladydoor: nothing.  :(  is there just no documentation on pocketpc linux development?
[10:42] <kitche> anyways kamui: it's man gcc or man g++ pocketpc-gcc just means that it's made for a pocketpc
[10:42] <Dr_willis> a laptop with a sata drive? aint that fancy
[10:42] <ladydoor> Docta: what do you mean by that?
[10:42] <TIM90> docto its not like windows
[10:42] <lipeuk> Dr_willis: hehe why?
[10:42] <Docta> i believe you said .exe were opition in linux
[10:42] <kitche> Docta: .exe doesn't work on linux
[10:42] <segfault_> Docta, no exe in linux to make a file executable chmod+x filename
[10:43] <Dr_willis> lipeuk, i aint seen none of those yet. :P
[10:43] <ladydoor> kamui: i don't use it, so i don't know. sorry. it has to be related to gcc, though, so you may check out gnu's webpage
[10:43] <kitche> Docta: but there is wine which you can use .exe
[10:43] <citizin> I just got done following this guide that someone recommended to me in here, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-75df3115f23359f3f48acd9be932d59109b982af
[10:43] <LjL> Docta, files with an ".exe" extention are Windows or MS-DOS files. they don't work at all in Linux, unless with the help of an emulation layer.
[10:43] <citizin> well its not working at all, I tried every step, and Im still stuck in 800x600
[10:43] <ladydoor> Docta: no, i said that file extensions are optional. so i can title a text file foo or foo.text. i prefer foo, you may prefer foo.txt.
[10:43] <wols_> citizin: what videocard, what driver?
[10:43] <citizin> Geforce FX 5700LE, Nvidia-GLX Driver
[10:43] <LjL> ladydoor: "foo.ascii" is more descriptive (or "foo.utf8", as appropriate ;P)
[10:44] <Docta> ok then how do i install stuff
[10:44] <ladydoor> LjL: true that--this is why i don't use file extensions. way too confusing :-)
[10:44] <LjL> Docta, using Synaptic or apt-get or aptitude or adept (they're all equivalent)
[10:44] <erUSUL> !synaptic > Docta
[10:44] <erUSUL> Docta: check the ubotu pm
[10:44] <Arrick> hey Yaakov are these commands being run locally?
[10:44] <wols_> !synaptic > Docta
[10:44] <segfault_> Docta, apt-get install stuff
[10:44] <ladydoor> Docta: you'll probably like synaptic, as it's graphikal.
[10:44] <erUSUL> !synaptic
[10:44] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[10:44] <Arrick> or are you ssh'd into your box like i am?
[10:44] <erUSUL> Docta: go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[10:45] <Docta> ok
[10:45] <jeffrock> hi all
[10:45] <wols_> segfault_: don't tell people to use apt when they don't even know how to install. just can't end well :)
[10:45] <kitche> kamui: try man gcc since pocketpc-gcc is just a package name the real name of the program is gcc and g++
[10:45] <Yaakov> Arrick: On the machine that you are going to run irssi on.  ssh to that machine, and do it in that shell.
[10:45] <qgwtrf> add/remove.. docta... very easy
[10:45] <Kyral> !apt
[10:45] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[10:45] <Arrick> where would the man pages be for irssi, in ubuntu breezy?
[10:45] <lopzided> does anyone know of a good howto to setup a dual boot sytem with xp and ubuntu, with ubuntu already installed (e.g. adding the xp installation to an ubuntu computer)
[10:45] <wols_> Arrick: install screen for irssi over ssh
[10:45] <DasteeZ> i'm having a problem installing kde on my ubuntu dapper drake install..i get an error saying ' Depends: language-selector-qt but it is not going to be installed' can someone help?
[10:45] <Ackeubu_> anyone tried ubuntu on mac mini? not the pentium edition but an older mini.
[10:45] <Yaakov> Arrick: Or, run it on the machine you are on, if that is where irssi should run.
[10:45] <segfault_> wols_, aye aye captain
[10:45] <LjL> Arrick: i don't know, but try "dpkg -L irssi"
[10:45] <Arrick> Yaakov, those commands you gave me didnt work
[10:45] <Ackeubu_> how did it work?
[10:45] <erUSUL> !grub > lopzided
[10:46] <TIM90> docta listten to segfault
[10:46] <Yaakov> Arrick: Make it simple.
[10:46] <citizin> So can anyone help me fix this screen resolution problem? I've tried editing my xorg.conf, every bit of it, from refresh rates, syncs, bit depth, none will give me anymore avalible resolutions, even though in xorg there under 24bitdepth is screen resolutions other than 800x600
[10:46] <Yaakov> Arrick: irssi -c <server> -n <nick>
[10:46] <kamui> kitche: gcc and g++ are the gnu c and c++ compilers.  the man pages for those don't contain any specific information about the pocketpc arm toolchains
[10:46] <LjL> wols_: uh, but APT *is* the way to install stuff, on here... am i missing something?
[10:46] <Asc> Sometimes when I boot kernel 2.6.18, I get an error "ide0: rexource 0x3F6-0x3F6 not free \n hda: ERROR, PORTS ALREADY IN USE" and the boot stops.  I need to know why this happens and/or what it means.
[10:46] <Yaakov> Arrick: If that doesn't work, you are lost.
[10:47] <wols_> LjL: yes. for someone like Docta it's too complicated. They like shiny graphical things like synaptic
[10:47] <Yaakov> Arrick: If it doesn't, explain what actually happens.
[10:47] <zaggynl> How is the support for Intel software?
[10:47] <wols_> LjL: synpaitc as a gui presents choices. a commandline you have to know what to type. and DOcta doesn't know
[10:47] <zaggynl> *hardware
[10:47] <LjL> wols_: uh, i think you're thinking of apt-get. but APT is not apt-get. apt-get is just a *frontend* to APT, just like Synaptic. APT itself is just the packaging/installation system
[10:47] <TIM90> Dockta are you sorted yet
[10:47] <Arrick> ok Yaakov now its working
[10:47] <citizin> Can anyone at all help me.....
[10:47] <LjL> wols_: synaptic, apt-get, adept, aptitude etc all rely on APT
[10:48] <Kyral> LjL: for all intents and purposes APT = Aptget
[10:48] <wols_> LjL: and apt is not APT either...
[10:48] <qgwtrf> Ljt apt is a front end dpkg is the format
[10:48] <LjL> Kyral: if you say so...
[10:48] <wols_> qgwtrf: no. deb is the format if anything
[10:48] <qgwtrf> true dpkg is the back end...my bad
[10:48] <LjL> wols_: yeah, and ubuntu is not Ubuntu. except people use lowercase all the time on irc -- err i mean, IRC :)
[10:48] <wols_> LjL:  the short form of "apt" is often used when one means apt-get actually
[10:48] <LjL> wols_: bah... wrongly so, then.
[10:48] <Yaakov> ladydoor: By the way, good evening.
[10:48] <zaggynl> How is the support for Intel hardware in Ubuntu linux?
[10:49] <LjL> wols_: *i* don't use it, and never would.
[10:49] <Kyral> LjL: Why are you making a fight out of nothing?
[10:49] <wols_> LjL: on Linux, cas is kinda important. especially on command names. you surely know that?
[10:49] <Citizin> can someone please help me with my question... I really dont like 800x600 -_-
[10:49] <Kyral> LjL: Or are you just an ass :P
[10:49] <ladydoor> Yaakov: good evening!
[10:49] <Kyral> !fixres
[10:49] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:49] <wols_> LjL: be proud of it then
[10:49] <LjL> Kyral: sorry?
[10:49] <Citizin> I already did that
[10:49] <Citizin> if you read what I typed, I did the Fixres article
[10:49] <Citizin> all of it, and it didn't effect anything
[10:49] <Arrick> how do I register an altenate Nick on here?
[10:49] <kitche> kamui: I know what those are but pocketpc-gcc should be installed on a pocketpc, or set up in a way where it doesn't touch gcc and g++ since pocketpc-gcc executabels are called gcc and g++ also it's just a port of gcc and g++
[10:49] <segfault_> zaggynl, not knowing what specific hardware u are referring to makes it impossible to help u, but i use it success on p4s and core duos
[10:49] <Kyral> LjL: I basically heard from you "I call it that so its right"
[10:49] <Citizin> Im still stuck in 800x600 @ 60
[10:49] <LjL> Kyral: well, don't *call* me an "ass" please.
[10:49] <jbu> dpkg: operation requires read/write access to dpkg status area -- what does this mean? i'm trying to install a .deb file
[10:49] <LjL> !language
[10:49] <wols_> kitche: the word you looked for is "anal retentive". sometimes obssessive compulsive. not just "an ass"
[10:49] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:50] <segfault_> jbu, use sudo
[10:50] <Kyral> LjL: I call'em as I see'em :P
[10:50] <kitche> kamui: well you can try this arm-linux-gcc
[10:50] <erUSUL> !fixres > Citizin
[10:50] <kitche> kamui: think that is the name of the pocketpc-gcc executable
[10:50] <Citizin> Alright
[10:50] <Citizin> stop sending me that
[10:50] <Citizin> I already read it, the whole thing
[10:50] <LjL> Kyral, fine, except it seems that *you* want to pick up a fight. *I* didn't call anyone names.
[10:50] <Citizin> and it does nothing for me
[10:51] <Unix_n_Coffee> good afternoon people :)
[10:51] <Yaakov> I have been doing a bunch of ARM Linux with a debian-derived distro.  It's fun.
[10:51] <Unix_n_Coffee> how do i mount a ISO :|
[10:51] <ladydoor> LjL: Kyral can you take this to a private message?
[10:51] <Kyral> LjL: *shrug* It DID defuse the arguement :P
[10:51] <Citizin> it dosn't fix my resoltuion, I've tried editing everything in the xorg file, even autodetection fails
[10:51] <Unix_n_Coffee> whats the command?
[10:51] <segfault_> Unix_n_Coffee, man mount can tell u
[10:51] <DanielX> Hi everyone
[10:51] <zaggynl> okay thanks segfault_
[10:51] <Kyral> Unix_n_Coffee: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/iso /path/to/isomountpoint
[10:51] <wols_> Citizin: you _could_ manually edit...
[10:51] <Citizin> If anyone can help me then please help me, but stop sending me the same link I've already been to which is what 2 people did already
[10:51] <Unix_n_Coffee> how do i unmount?
[10:51] <ziro01> hello
[10:51] <Citizin> I Did manually edit
[10:51] <ziro01> don't know
[10:51] <Citizin> if anyone has been reading what I typed
[10:51] <Kyral> Unix_n_Coffee: sudo umount /path/to/isomountpoint
[10:51] <segfault_> zaggynl, np
[10:51] <Citizin> I manually edited xorg.conf more than once, the depth, the resolutions
[10:51] <Yaakov> Unix_n_Coffee: umount /mount/point
[10:52] <Citizin> everything
[10:52] <zaggynl> I actually mean Intel hardware in general, not a specific component
[10:52] <kitche> Citizin: did you put in your res infront of the other res?
[10:52] <DanielX> I have a kubuntu installed.. how can I access it by ssh ?
[10:52] <Kyral> Yaakov: Mounting to the Loopback requires Root
[10:52] <Unix_n_Coffee> thanks everyone will give i t a try :)
[10:52] <arrick2> how do I add my newly registered name to my cloak?
[10:52] <_tom_> DanielX, install openssh server
[10:52] <Citizin> kitche, all my resolutions in my xorg.conf are just ordered out in quotes.
[10:52] <Kyral> Unless you have FUSE and FUSEISO
[10:52] <ladydoor> DanielX: you need to install openssh-server
[10:52] <ladydoor> DanielX: and then download puTTY or something
[10:52] <LjL> Kyral, wols_: at any rate, "APT" is not "apt-get", nor is "apt". and if someone says that "you use apt to install packages on ubuntu", and you interpret that as using apt-get rather than synaptic, you're just plainly wrong. and if you want to call me names because of that, please feel free to stop.
[10:52] <Arrick> !register
[10:53] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:53] <Yaakov> Kyral: "loop device" and yes, I left out sudo.
[10:53] <DanielX> Ok, that's what i thought, some ssh server, but it isn't found by Adept
[10:53] <kitche> Citizin: well if they are all commented out no wonder why it doesn't see your res that you put in\
[10:53] <Citizin> Depth		24
[10:53] <Citizin> 		Modes		"1280x1024" "1280x960" "1280x768" "1152x864" "1152x768" "1024x768" "800x600"
[10:53] <Kyral> LjL: It seems like you are forcing your opinion on others. And Frankly Synaptic calls Apt-Get so you DO use Apt-Get when you use Synaptic
[10:53] <Citizin> Thats what it looks like
[10:53] <Citizin> so why aren't any of them but 800x600 showing up?
[10:54] <Kyral> (Want proof, the proof is in /var/(run/lock)
[10:54] <kitche> Citizin: well if your trying to change them in gnome or something that acts different then what's in xorg.conf
[10:54] <DanielX> Citizin : I had that problem. Set your bit rate to 16 instead of 24
[10:54] <Citizin> DanielX
[10:54] <kitche> Citizin: but what driver are you using by chance
[10:54] <Citizin> I did
[10:54] <DanielX> in xorg.conf
[10:54] <Citizin> Nvidia-GLX
[10:54] <andel1> i'm trying to install java - i downloaded java binary from java.sun.com and i executed it ....for some reason it stuck after "Checking available disk space...
[10:54] <andel1> Checking Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment...
[10:54] <andel1> Extracting Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment files...
[10:54] <andel1> Deleting temporary files..."
[10:54] <DanielX> oh. that fixed my problem
[10:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> wait i am confused who can me the iso mount
[10:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> :|
[10:55] <Citizin> I tried setting it to 16, then CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE, and no luck for new resolutions to show up
[10:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> sudo mount -o loop /path/to/iso /path/to/isomountpoint
[10:55] <Kyral> Unix_n_Coffee: yes
[10:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> where do i enter the the iso file name?
[10:55] <Kyral> Unix_n_Coffee: replace the "path/to" things with the actual paths
[10:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> i see
[10:55] <Citizin> Kitche, if I take out the quotes in those resolutions, will they show up?
[10:55] <LjL> Kyral: synaptic doesn't call apt-get.
[10:55] <DanielX> Citizin : you make the change then reboot, or reload the server in some way?
[10:56] <Unix_n_Coffee> let me try :\
[10:56] <zmutte> Hey, I was wondering if there is anyway to "screen" graphic programs? (like screen textbased program)
[10:56] <Kyral> Unix_n_Coffee: so /path/to/iso becomes the ISO and /path/to/isomountpoint becomes where you want to mount it
[10:56] <Citizin> DanielX, yes.
[10:56] <Kyral> LjL: Then why does Synaptic block Apt? :P
[10:56] <Citizin> I rebooted a couple of times, still nothing.
[10:56] <LjL> Kyral: because both are using the APT backend. so does adept. so does aptitude.
[10:56] <DanielX> hm. and if you set it even lower?
[10:56] <kfm82> zmutte, to achieve something similar, i am successfully using Xvnc in OpenBSD
[10:56] <Citizin> and I know my monitor can run higher then 800x600, it isn't old at all, and in windows it was running a 1280x1024@60
[10:56] <Kyral> APT Backend == Apt-Get
[10:56] <LjL> Kyral: and aptitude, for instance, definitely does not call apt-get.
[10:56] <gnomefreak> both are using dpkg :)
[10:56] <LjL> Kyral: wrong.
[10:56] <Citizin> If I run ubuntu off the CD in safe gfx mode I can run at 1024x768
[10:56] <LjL> !apt
[10:56] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[10:56] <zmutte> kfm82: I don't like VNC, more of a X-server - X-client fan.
[10:57] <kitche> Citizin: you trying to change it in the window manager res manager?
[10:57] <Kyral> LjL: Yanno, STFU you are fighting on technicalitieds
[10:57] <DanielX> it would be the card settings, not the monitor
[10:57] <kfm82> zmutte, guess what Xvnc does
[10:57] <LjL> !ops
[10:57] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[10:57] <Kyral> THAT is why I got pissed at you
[10:57] <gnomefreak> ??
[10:57] <Citizin> kitche, I try to change the resolution in SYSTEM>PREFRENCES>SCREEN RESOLUTION
[10:57] <LjL> gnomefreak --- kyral, "STFU" and calling me an ass (especially when i'm right) is not something i'm going to accept anymore.
[10:57] <kfm82> zmutte, try xmx and xmove, but don't be disappointed
[10:57] <wols_> LjL: can you tell me why ubotu uses "apt" for the trigger and not apt-get which it describes? strange?
[10:57] <twopoint0> can someone help me getting wine going? i can't find it in the repo
[10:58] <LjL> !apt-get
[10:58] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[10:58] <kitche> Citizin: yeah I think that uses it's own configuration file
[10:58] <Citizin> twopoint, you need to add there rep to your list
[10:58] <Citizin> kitche, well where do I find that file?
[10:58] <Seveas> LjL, and rightfully so
[10:58] <DanielX> so, where do i get openssh ?
[10:58] <segfault_> twopoint0, its in universe or multiverse
[10:58] <LjL> wols_: see above. they're just glued into the same factoid. that doesn't mean a thing.
[10:58] <twopoint0> i added it, but when i refresh and search for wine nothing comes up
[10:58] <twopoint0> segfault_ i'll check now, thank you
[10:58] <kitche> Citizin: what window manager you using gnome?
[10:58] <wols_> LjL: you are an ass. kyral was right
[10:58] <LjL> thanks seveas
[10:58] <ompaul> !langauge
[10:58] <wols_> correction: a dumb ass. HADN
[10:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about langauge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:59] <zmutte> kfm82: alright, xmx looks interesting for me for another cause :D
[10:59] <ompaul> !language
[10:59] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:59] <zmutte> kfm82: thanks
[10:59] <Citizin> yes gnome
[10:59] <LjL> wols_: ok, i'm done with you both.
[10:59] <segfault_> twopoint0, u have to apt-get update after adding new repositories
[10:59] <Aspic> hi all.  quick q - i'm currently reinstalling ubuntu and am going to upgrade the kernel in order to use the native bcm43xx drivers (which I've done before on an old installation). rather than create a temporary internet creation using the firmware method and networkmanager to get pkgs such as kernel-package, is there a way i can dl them in say xp to my os shared area and read them in in ubuntu?
[10:59] <Citizin> kitche, im running gnome
[10:59] <segfault_> Aspic, u can mount an NTFS partition in ubuntu, best to mount read only
[11:00] <foureight84> what's a good wireless network manager for gnome?
[11:00] <Aspic> i've got ntfs parts mounted - i was wandering if there was a way i could dl apt-get packages to it and read it from ubuntu.
[11:00] <Dr_willis> !network-manager
[11:00] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[11:00] <Unix_n_Coffee> Kyral this is so confusing
[11:00] <foureight84> ahh
[11:00] <foureight84> haha thanks
[11:01] <Dr_willis> Aspic,  you dont want to write to NTFS partitions under linux. its risky
[11:01] <segfault_> Aspic, u can do that from within windows, writing to ntfs under linux is quite experimental
[11:01] <Unix_n_Coffee> Kyral if i say i have a 1.iso and its in /home/Desktop/1/1.so how do i mount that?
[11:01] <Unix_n_Coffee> Kyral if i say i have a 1.iso and its in /home/Desktop/1/1.iso how do i mount that? *
[11:01] <Seveas> Unix_n_Coffee, kyral left
[11:01] <lipeuk> I installed ubuntu on my laptop and it has sata hard disk which is not recognizing by the system. I load live cd again and i am trying to mount the partition i created and it says special device does not exist but it does! does anyone know how to fix it up?
[11:01] <Dr_willis> !loop
[11:02] <Unix_n_Coffee> how would i would mount that?
[11:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about loop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:02] <Unix_n_Coffee> someone know?
[11:02] <Aspic> i've also got a fat32 partition created for just this occasion :) the sharing between os i know about.  what i was needing help for is where to dl deb/synaptic packages from xp which i can then move across to ubuntu - the moving bit i can do, the dl bit from xp i don't know about
[11:02] <kitche> Citizin: it seems ot be in gconf
[11:02] <Dr_willis> Unix_n_Coffee,  using that loopback filesystem feature of mount
[11:02] <foureight84> network-manager is ready out of the box with dapper?
[11:02] <Dr_willis> a quick google search will show examples.
[11:02] <Citizin> gconf, do that would be /etc/X11/gconf.org?
[11:02] <Unix_n_Coffee> DR_willis whats the command?
[11:02] <Citizin> so*
[11:02] <Aspic> foureight - its on the cd. open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[11:02] <twopoint0> ok, heres what happens.  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, i open it up and on winehq it tells me to add deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main, but in terminal i see that i get a 404 with that repo
[11:02] <foureight84> thanks
[11:02] <twopoint0> so i added deb-src, and nothing shows up in synaptic after i update
[11:02] <Aspic> make sure you've got the cd in the drive (always catches me out that bit :))
[11:03] <Unix_n_Coffee> DR_willis mount: can't find /Desktop/1/1.iso/to/isopoint in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:03] <TIM90> Aspic is he having a network problem ?
[11:03] <Citizin> Kitche, where would I find the gconf file?
[11:03] <Aspic> Citizin - who?
[11:03] <Citizin> What?
[11:03] <Aspic> Why? :P
[11:03] <Unix_n_Coffee> :(
[11:03] <bluefox83> can anyone recommend an ftpd program with a gui?
[11:03] <Unix_n_Coffee> nobody knows?
[11:03] <Dr_willis> Unix_n_Coffee,  whats the exact mount command you are using? and THINK about what you are doing..  i am guessing you need to MAKE the /to/isomountpoint (which is an example)
[11:04] <Citizin> it's sad no one knows how to allow more than 1 resolution in ubuntu...
[11:04] <Dr_willis> Unix_n_Coffee,  Linux tip #1 - it pays to think. not just follow directions blindly
[11:04] <Unix_n_Coffee> sudo mount -o loop /home/Desktop/1/1.iso/to/isopoint
[11:04] <kitche> Citizin: it's in your /home /home/user/.gconf/desktop/gnome/screen/default/O looks for a file called %gconf.xml
[11:04] <bluefox83> Citizin, add them to your xorg.conf file
[11:04] <Dr_willis> Unix_n_Coffee,  congratulations you got a typo in there.
[11:04] <joeljkp> so i need to create a small hand-edited database, nothing special; are there any ms access alternatives for linux?
[11:04] <Citizin> BlueFox83, add what? My resolutions, cause I did that.
[11:04] <segfault_> twopoint0, wine is in universe or multiverse, u need deb line to install it, a newer version can be found in this repository deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[11:04] <Dr_willis> mount /place/from /place/to
[11:04] <Unix_n_Coffee> DR_willis whats the problem
[11:04] <Aspic> the opensource one (forgotten what its called - but you've got it in the usual install)
[11:04] <Citizin> I've done everything on every article anyone has sent me
[11:04] <Aspic> openoffice - sry
[11:04] <Citizin> none has worked yet
[11:05] <bluefox83> ciaron, did you restart X?
[11:05] <Dr_willis> Unix_n_Coffee,  you need to cre4ate the MOUNTpoint first.. and use a correct command. you are missing a space.
[11:05] <bluefox83> er..
[11:05] <twopoint0> but when i dont have -src i get a 404 on the update link
[11:05] <kitche> Citizin: go to the directory that I posted and look for a %gconf.xml
[11:05] <bluefox83> Citizin, did you restart X?
[11:05] <sethk> Citizin, there are only two possibilities, really
[11:05] <sethk> Citizin, well, three
[11:05] <sethk> Citizin, I'll skip the ones everyone always tells everyone about
[11:05] <Citizin> I've rebooted
[11:05] <Citizin> constantly
[11:05] <sethk> Citizin, it may not be properly identifying your monitor, and so it falls back to a default
[11:06] <Citizin> im getting sick of this, im about to just use fedora.
[11:06] <segfault_> twopoint0, deb-src is to get pkg src deb is to get binaries to install
[11:06] <sethk> Citizin, can you post your X log to the paste web site?
[11:06] <Unix_n_Coffee> still trying
[11:06] <Unix_n_Coffee> ...
[11:06] <Citizin> Sethk, the autodetection identified my monitor.
[11:06] <twopoint0> ok one sec, let me retry and check if i get an error
[11:06] <sethk> Citizin, we'll be able to tell you exactly what's going on.
[11:06] <Dr_willis> Unix_n_Coffee,  did you correct your mount command?
[11:06] <Citizin> You tell me where to find my xlog and Ill post it.
[11:06] <sethk> Citizin, I have to see the log to know
[11:06] <factotum> is there a command to get a list of my executible dirs?
[11:06] <sethk> Citizin, ok, one sec
[11:06] <synap> Heya howla
[11:06] <factotum> or bash paths or whatever
[11:06] <synap> ubuntu isn't booting any longer after a dist-upgrade
[11:06] <kitche> Citizin: /var/log/X.0.log
[11:06] <Unix_n_Coffee> Dr_willis i dont know :|
[11:06] <segfault_> Citizin, also u could do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:06] <Unix_n_Coffee> still trying
[11:06] <synap> I have reinstalled grub through the live cd
[11:06] <sethk> Citizin, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:06] <synap> and it still ain't booting
[11:06] <synap> any suggestions ?
[11:06] <Citizin> segfault, did that as well.
[11:07] <Aspic> Anyone have any idea where i can dl apt packages from a non-linux os?
[11:07] <Yaakov> factotum: echo $PATH
[11:07] <factotum> Yaakov: thanks
[11:07] <Dr_willis> Unix_n_Coffee,  it would of been worth wile to google and find a few examples that do it :P
[11:07] <segfault_> Citizin, thats should allow u to pick the resolutions u want enabled
[11:07] <sethk> Citizin, post the log, talk before that is wasted
[11:07] <Unix_n_Coffee> chris@chris-laptop:~/Desktop/1$ sudo mount -o loop /1.iso /to/isopoint
[11:07] <Unix_n_Coffee> i am in the 1 directory with 1.so
[11:07] <Unix_n_Coffee> :|
[11:07] <Unix_n_Coffee> i am in the 1 directory with 1.iso*
[11:07] <twopoint0> ok i save that line into my sources.list and after updating it returns, Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[11:07] <twopoint0> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:07] <twopoint0> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:08] <Citizin> sethk, where do you want me to post this to? PM?
[11:08] <factotum> im gonna be installing Neverwinter nights in a sec, just didnt want to install it to my home dir
[11:08] <Dr_willis> Unix_n_Coffee,  and did you MAKE the directory the thing is to be mounting to?
[11:08] <sethk> Citizin, !paste
[11:08] <Yaakov> Unix_n_Coffee: / in front means from the root directory.
[11:08] <Dr_willis>  Unix_n_Coffee  you realize that /to/isopoint is just an 'example'
[11:08] <Citizin> !paste
[11:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:08] <hydro> hello all
[11:08] <Aspic> hello hydro
[11:08] <twopoint0> thank you citizin
[11:08] <hydro> can someone recommend a good VNC viewer for Ubuntu?
[11:08] <sethk> Citizin, you've been messing around with this, and nobody told you to post the log?  :)
[11:08] <segfault_> twopoint0, the resource lock issue is u need to use sudo apt-get update
[11:08] <Yaakov> Unix_n_Coffee: /to/isopoint needs to be the name of a directory you create to act as mount point.
[11:08] <hydro> I tried xvncviewer but it has problems scrolling
[11:08] <Citizin> sethk, no one has really helped.
[11:09] <Citizin> Its more like i've been ignored.
[11:09] <Dr_willis> hydro,  theres several of them, kde has one built in, or the vnc4viewer, or tightvncviewer
[11:09] <segfault_> segfault_, i dont use amd64 that arch may not be in that repository
[11:09] <sethk> Citizin, well, I'm sure they've tried.  let's look at the log.
[11:09] <twopoint0> i am using sudo apt-get update
[11:09] <sethk> Citizin, paste the URL here when you have it.
[11:09] <Citizin> pastebin just loads a blank page in firefox
[11:09] <segfault_> twopoint0, or u have synaptic open at the same time
[11:09] <hydro> Dr_willis: thanks ... do you recommend running KDE on Ubuntu instead of the default (is default on Dapper Drake Gnome Desktop?)
[11:09] <Unix_n_Coffee> it hink i got it...
[11:09] <Unix_n_Coffee> gold on
[11:09] <Unix_n_Coffee> hold on*
[11:09] <sethk> Citizin, not for me, I just checked it, and I run firefox.  are you sure it isn't just slow?
[11:10] <twopoint0> that might be it, i just closed synaptic, let me try again
[11:10] <ladydoor> hydro: ubuntu=gnome. kubuntu=kde. xubuntu=xfce
[11:10] <Citizin> 15mb broadband, im pretty sure, I'll try again
[11:10] <sethk> Citizin, hm, wait, you are right
[11:10] <Dr_willis> hydro,  i mixx and match all the desktops.
[11:10] <sethk> Citizin, it's broken, damn
[11:10] <ladydoor> hydro: and you can always install other window managers (such as fluxbox) on any of those.
[11:10] <sethk> Citizin, ok, you can pm me, or paste it to #flood
[11:10] <Citizin> >_<
[11:10] <shwag> how do I set my buffer size in x-chat
[11:10] <Dr_willis> hydro,  and ive messed with vnc a lot and cant recall any scrolling problems in vncviewer
[11:10] <Citizin> Ill go to #flood
[11:10] <kitche> citizin: use pastebin.ca or another pastebin site
[11:10] <Unix_n_Coffee> For many more details, say  man 8 mount .
[11:10] <ladydoor> !paste
[11:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:10] <twopoint0> didnt work after closing synaptic
[11:10] <hantu> 'sthere an alternative for xpdf? (thats not gnome/kde specific)
[11:11] <bluefox83> ok..who knows how to use pureftpd?
[11:11] <Dr_willis> Unix_n_Coffee,  you need to MAKE the directory it is mounting to.. ie.. mkdir /to/isomount
[11:11] <hydro> Dr_willis: for some reason, when running xvncviewer, I can scroll right and scroll down, but I can not then scroll back up and scroll left ... its weird.
[11:11] <ladydoor> hantu: pdftotext? :-)
[11:11] <sethk> twopoint0, didn't work before closing synaptic either.
[11:11] <hydro> ladydoor: thanks ... I just got started with Dapper Drake
[11:11] <ladydoor> hydro: np.
[11:11] <Dr_willis> hydro,  never noticed that.  :)
[11:11] <segfault_> twopoint0, again amd64 may not be in that repository, im not sure i dont use amd 64, but u should still be able to use wine from universe or multiverse
[11:11] <ladydoor> !u
[11:11] <TheGateKeeper> twopoint0: doesn't look like they have an amd64, try putting this into your browser: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/
[11:11] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[11:11] <stu_> anyone know if there is a package around for kiba-dock ?
[11:12] <Citizin> sethk, http://pastebin.ca/184391
[11:12] <strk> wow, crowded here
[11:12] <sethk> Citizin, ok, looking
[11:12] <Yaakov> There's plenty of room.
[11:12] <twopoint0> so can i use binary i386?
[11:12] <linlin> !flash
[11:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:12] <Unix_n_Coffee> not working
[11:12] <sethk> Citizin, it's a mouse problem
[11:12] <Unix_n_Coffee> :|
[11:12] <Unix_n_Coffee> err
[11:12] <hydro> Dr_willis: looking at Synaptic Package Manager, I don't see vnc4viewer or tightvncviewer (but I do see tightvncserver)
[11:12] <ladydoor> stu_: not unless it doesn't have "kiba" in its name for some reason. you can always install from source, though.
[11:12] <Citizin> Sethk, your kidding right?
[11:12] <Unix_n_Coffee> ill just burn the damn cd
[11:12] <Unix_n_Coffee> :|
[11:12] <segfault_> twopoint0, i doubt it but some one more familar with amd64 will have to answer that
[11:12] <hydro> Dr_willis: and I do have universe settings turned on
[11:13] <renatoborghi> hey
[11:13] <sethk> Citizin, you using a tablet?
[11:13] <Citizin> What does my mouse (which is functioning fine) have to do with my screen resolution?
[11:13] <strk> people keep telling me ubuntu is the way to go, so ... let's see... is full network install possible ? (I've a spare partition I might use to try it out)
[11:13] <Citizin> No, im using a regular desktop.
[11:13] <Unix_n_Coffee> thanks anyways guys
[11:13] <twopoint0> thanks i'll try their channel
[11:13] <Citizin> Wireless mouse though
[11:13] <Unix_n_Coffee> bye
[11:13] <sethk> Citizin, it's looking for a wacom tablet, for some reason.
[11:13] <kitche> Citizin: it says no valid modes for your resolutions
[11:13] <renatoborghi> what do i do to use subtitle files when i'm watching videos?
[11:13] <sethk> Citizin, your modes are all detected as invalid
[11:13] <Citizin> invalid? how are they invalid?
[11:13] <Citizin> xconfig detected them itself.
[11:13] <sethk> Citizin, that probably means that your vertical refresh is wrong
[11:14] <hantu> ladydoor: i'll just whck in xpdf, thanks
[11:14] <sethk> Citizin, or as I said before the monitor detection is failing.
[11:14] <Citizin> I got my vertical refresh from my monitors specs online
[11:14] <ladydoor> hantu: there's acroread
[11:14] <sethk> Citizin, that's the wrong way to configure
[11:14] <synap> ok having the following problem
[11:14] <Citizin> How, I followed the manual a few people gave me.
[11:14] <synap> grub is starting VERY slow
[11:14] <Citizin> the !fixres manual
[11:14] <synap> where very is minutes and minutes
[11:14] <sethk> Citizin, go through dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.  when it gets to the monitor section, choose the _middle_ difficulty level
[11:14] <ladydoor> hantu: (the acrobat reader)...it's kind of slow, though
[11:14] <silvertip257> hello
[11:14] <synap> it still hasn't started
[11:14] <synap> I have this since the last dist-upgrade
[11:14] <Citizin> sethk, K hold on
[11:14] <sethk> Citizin, there you will select specific resolution/vertical frequency pairs
[11:14] <sethk> Citizin, then it will work.
[11:15] <renatoborghi> i've downloaded a subtitle file for a movie, and i don't know how to play it during the video. can someone help me?
[11:15] <silvertip257> hello all, I was wondering if anyone would help me.  I'm new to Ubuntu
[11:15] <sethk> Citizin, you should never do things with monitor specs unless the monitor isn't auto detected, and usually not even then.
[11:15] <ladydoor> !ask
[11:15] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:15] <silvertip257> all right
[11:15] <TIM90> yeh
[11:15] <morrye> Does anyone know of a good java editor for ubuntu?
[11:15] <TIM90> ask
[11:15] <silvertip257> well I've downloaded, burnt, and installed ubuntu on a drive
[11:15] <silvertip257> but it wont let me boot to it
[11:15] <silvertip257> it keeps asking for the live CD
[11:16] <Dr_willis> silvertip257,  look on the cdrom - what files are on there?
[11:16] <kitche> morrye: eclipse but any text editor will work really
[11:16] <silvertip257> umm lemme c
[11:16] <TIM90> Give it what it wants
[11:16] <sethk> silvertip257, you've removed the CD from the drive, I assume
[11:16] <Dr_willis> SiliconViper__,  You are saying it booted partway then? whats asking?
[11:16] <silvertip257> yes i have tried to boot it  w/o the CD
[11:16] <TIM90> What happends
[11:16] <sethk> silvertip257, do you get to the grub prompt (the boot loader prompt)?
[11:16] <Citizin> Sethk, when it trys to auto-detect my monitor it says its a "FS 760"
[11:17] <morrye> kitche: i'm looking for a text editor where you can edit the syntax highlighting styles, can you recommend one?
[11:17] <sethk> silvertip257, it looks similar to the boot loader prompt when booting the cd
[11:17] <Yaakov> ladydoor: Ghostview is an option.
[11:17] <Citizin> BUt its actually a FS7600
[11:17] <Citizin> should I correct that?
[11:17] <sethk> Citizin, that's probably ok.
[11:17] <sethk> Citizin, no, not for now, possibly later is easier ways don't work
[11:17] <renatoborghi> can anyone help me make a .srt subtitle file play in a video file?
[11:17] <ladydoor> Yaakov: aha, cool.
[11:17] <sethk> Citizin, they are probably very similar
[11:17] <silvertip257> sethk I get a screen that says DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT A SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER
[11:17] <kitche> morrye: vim maybe emacs
[11:18] <Citizin> Sethk, I selected Medium
[11:18] <Citizin> no im at some screen resolutions and rates
[11:18] <sethk> Citizin, good
[11:18] <Yaakov> ladydoor: I use Ghostview with Windows as well, when I don't want to license Acrobat.
[11:18] <sethk> Citizin, do the ones you need have a * on them?
[11:18] <ladydoor> Yaakov: good idea! i don't suppose there's a firefox plugin?
[11:18] <sethk> silvertip257, the boot loader isn't installed on the hard drive
[11:18] <ladydoor> lol
[11:18] <Dr_willis> silvertip257,  thats the PC adsking for a disk with an OS in it.. sounds like you burnt the cd wrong.
[11:18] <python_user> grub wont let me boot into windows xp cd
[11:18] <simn> Hello;P
[11:18] <Citizin> sethk, im past that part
[11:18] <shwag> is amaroK the bomb? should I install it ?
[11:18] <silvertip257> REALLY!
[11:18] <silvertip257> HOW ?
[11:18] <Yaakov> ladydoor: I haven't even explored that... I don't know.
[11:18] <sethk> Dr_willis, no, he's trying to boot the hard drive after installing
[11:18] <Citizin> but the ones I needed at that screen had the * On them
[11:18] <simn> duuude, Xchat is weary different from regulare mirc;P
[11:18] <silvertip257> i got version 6.xx
[11:19] <sethk> silvertip257, how what?
[11:19] <sethk> Citizin, good.
[11:19] <silvertip257> how can i have the wrong iso/cd ?
[11:19] <Citizin> sethk, "Choose the best resolution and rate you think your monitor is capable of"
[11:19] <Citizin> thats where im at
[11:19] <sethk> silvertip257, you don't
[11:19] <python_user> i tried changing the default to 7 in the menu.lst file
[11:19] <sethk> silvertip257, he's confused about the question
[11:19] <silvertip257> lemme look for  where i go it
[11:19] <ladydoor> shwag: it's entirely up to you. read about its features on the interweb. if you like them, go for it.
[11:19] <silvertip257> *got it
[11:19] <Citizin> Sethk, write monitor sync ranges to config file?
[11:19] <sethk> Citizin, ok, do it.  as long as the resolutions you need have *, you are ok.  at the end tell it Y to modify the config file
[11:19] <sethk> Citizin, yes, write
[11:19] <Aspic> anyone know a url where i can dl packages from manually?
[11:20] <bluefox83> anyone familiar with pureadmin?
[11:20] <Citizin> Color Depth?
[11:20] <Citizin> 16/24
[11:20] <python_user> also, grub shows, i think unnecessarily the kernel option, the recovery mode two times
[11:20] <sethk> Citizin, then you should be able to start X.  if gdm is still running you'll have to kill it
[11:20] <sethk> Citizin, 16/24 is fine
[11:20] <python_user> then the windows xp cd
[11:20] <silvertip257> sethk, i got it from this site http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/
[11:20] <sethk> Citizin, if it still has problems we'll need to see the log again.
[11:20] <sethk> silvertip257, there's nothing wrong with the cd
[11:20] <silvertip257> the top one regarding i386
[11:20] <Citizin> ok, well, im going to restart, brb
[11:20] <silvertip257> well then? sethk
[11:20] <sethk> silvertip257, during the install, for some reason, the boot loader was not installed to the MBR
[11:20] <ladydoor> Yaakov: ach well...i would've though older software like gv would have better keyboard support. thanks anyway!
[11:21] <silvertip257> ah i shoulda figured that, but how can i remedy that, sethk ?
[11:21] <sethk> silvertip257, if the rest of the install went normally, you'll need to boot the live CD, mount the disk file system, and install the boot loader
[11:21] <Yaakov> ladydoor: What's the issue?
[11:21] <python_user> i went into BIOS and checked if i had set boot to cd- rom as the boot option
[11:21] <python_user> but that didnt work either
[11:21] <sethk> silvertip257, the fedora rescue cd makes it very easy, if you don't mind doing a download.  It's a small download (for a cd, anyway, about 80 meg)
[11:21] <silvertip257> how do i install the boot loader now that everything else is on the drive
[11:21] <sethk> silvertip257, it's not hard to do with the ubuntu live cd, but you have to know more
[11:21] <silvertip257> yeah i've got the fedora CDs
[11:22] <sethk> silvertip257, ok, boot their rescue cd, or boot their cd1 and type linux rescue at the prompt
[11:22] <silvertip257> can u run me through it  the ubuntu way sethk ?
[11:22] <sethk> silvertip257, do you know how to mount from the command line?
[11:22] <silvertip257> cant say i do (i'm really really new @ linux stuff)
[11:22] <python_user> does anyone know why grub overides the default boot option and doesnt let me boot into the windows xp cd?
[11:23] <sethk> silvertip257, do it the easy way.  there is nothing wrong with using a rescue cd
[11:23] <ladydoor> Yaakov: it doesn't seem to have either emacs- or vi-like keybindings, and i didn't see a mention of them in the manual. i'll just stick with xpdf, which at least has j=down, k=up, etc.
[11:23] <sethk> python_user, it doesn't.
[11:23] <silvertip257> what sethk?
[11:23] <ladydoor> :-)
[11:23] <sethk> silvertip257, boot the rescue cd
[11:23] <Yaakov> ladydoor: Ah... *cough*geek*cough*
[11:23] <python_user> sethk, it does, i put the xp cd in
[11:23] <sethk> silvertip257, answer all the questions, say no to the question about starting the 'net interface, say continue at the prompt at the end.
[11:23] <voraistos-> does anyone know how to compile/install gnash ?
[11:23] <python_user> but grub just loads the ubuntu kernel
[11:24] <silvertip257> sethk what's the reason for no MBR ?
[11:24] <sethk> python_user, no, you are interpreting what is happening, not describing it.
[11:24] <rus1> python_user: You need to change your BIOS to boot from the CD
[11:24] <sethk> silvertip257, possibly you told it not to install the boot loader on the mbr?
[11:24] <sethk> silvertip257, hard to know after the fact.
[11:24] <rus1> python_user, or possibly the XP CD is bad.
[11:24] <silvertip257> nope
[11:24] <python_user> rus1, i checked the boot option
[11:24] <silvertip257> sethk i've tried reinstalling it like 5 times to get it right
[11:24] <sethk> silvertip257, the o/s, or the boot loader?
[11:24] <python_user> it says xp cd is the default boot option
[11:24] <rus1> python_user, grub doesn't do anything 'till you get to hard drive boot.
[11:24] <citizin> sethk, No luck
[11:25] <citizin> Still the same
[11:25] <ladydoor> Yaakov: actually, my mouse doesn't work, and so if it doesn't have easily-used keybindings i can't really use it
[11:25] <silvertip257> sethk the ubuntu OS
[11:25] <ladydoor> *shrug*
[11:25] <sethk> silvertip257, if you've done something twice, and it doesn't work, it won't help to do it 2 more, or 20 more, or 200 more times
[11:25] <Yaakov> ladydoor: What's wrong with the mouse.
[11:25] <silvertip257> i've realized that sethk
[11:25] <sethk> silvertip257, we can fix it, but there isn'
[11:25] <sethk> silvertip257, there isn't really any way to find out what happened.
[11:25] <python_user> is there a way to uninstall ubuntu from inside ubuntu?
[11:25] <python_user> from the mbr?
[11:25] <sethk> silvertip257, once you can reboot, you'll be ok.
[11:25] <Lemino> how do I change the java-version I'm running. Would like to switch to sun's version.
[11:25] <silvertip257> sethk: oh that's weird
[11:26] <dapper> Hey everyone
[11:26] <sethk> python_user, you can replace the mbr with another from within ubuntu, if you have a backup of the one you need.
[11:26] <Citizin> Sethk, No luck.
[11:26] <silvertip257> sethk I do not have the fedora rescue cd burnt and it's on the other computer
[11:26] <sethk> Citizin, ok, post the log, and also your xorg.conf
[11:26] <silvertip257> sethk can u run me through the way 2 recover it w/ the ubuntu CD ?
[11:26] <sethk> silvertip257, ok, then boot the live cd, mount the root file system that's on the disk, do a chroot to it, then run the grub utility
[11:27] <python_user> sethk, how do i do that?
[11:27] <python_user> please
[11:27] <NN-DMT> Hey all.
[11:27] <sethk> python_user, what, restore an old MBR?  assuming the old mbr is in a file called old-mbr, you would do:   dd if=old-mbr, of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
[11:27] <NN-DMT> Anyone had luck running compiz/beryl?
[11:27] <dennda> hi. i recently installed aiglx with beryl but no window borders are drawn any more while using aiglx. how can i fix that?
[11:27] <ompaul> !xgl
[11:27] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:28] <ompaul> NN-DMT, ^^ go there
[11:28] <python_user> thanks sethk
[11:28] <ladydoor> Yaakov: well, it's a laptop touchpad that *never* really worked so well, even under windows. and before this computer i'd never really used computers a lot, and so i've pretty much exclusively learned (fast) keyboard-friendly ways of doing things, and now i would *not* use a non-ratpoison WM or use a graphical program if there's a commandline alternative. *shrug*
[11:28] <kitche> NN-DMT: ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:28] <NN-DMT> thanks all, sorry aabout that
[11:28] <silvertip257> sethk how do i mount the root file system :-[
[11:28] <Celeste> Will it slow down my system when I install  "ubuntu-desktop" on a "kubuntu" ?
[11:28] <gansinho> hello, I'm trying to conect a pocket pc to my pc, and trying to know if it is recognized, following a how to in the forum I tryed to use the command "ls /dev" and watch for any changes between when the device is and isn't connected, but nothing changes here, any idea of what problem it is?
[11:29] <sethk> silvertip257, depends on the layout of the partitions on your hard drive.  you can get the layout by doing:   fdisk -l /dev/hda
[11:29] <sethk> silvertip257, assuming you are using an IDE drive
[11:29] <silvertip257> sethk yes
[11:29] <Yaakov> ladydoor: The man pages for gv IMPLY that you can change the bindings... but that may be a compile-time option.
[11:29] <silvertip257> sethk woah i put the cd in & it has booted the GUI already
[11:30] <fildo_> hey
[11:30] <Hoovey> cool
[11:30] <vasP_L> I just installed beagle, and now when I press the search shortcut nothing comes up. any ideas`
[11:30] <morphir> i want to chmod read access to a directory(for all visitors)...however it turns off read access automaticaly after a while...how is this..do I need to cron this command?
[11:30] <ladydoor> Yaakov: yeah, and me lazy
[11:30] <Yaakov> ladydoor: Yes, yes you are.  But I like you anyway.
[11:30] <ladydoor> gansinho: try doing dmesg|tail to see if anything got picked up.
[11:30] <ladydoor> Yaakov: lol.
[11:31] <kitche> vasP #ubuntu-xgl they can help out more probably
[11:31] <andyross> OK, I need help.  As it happens, I need to build a kernel.org stock kernel on my amd64 box.  This is pretty straightforward on fedora (the distro's mkinitrd does the right thing) but I'm at a total loss as to how to make it work on Ubuntu.  mkinitramfs doesn't seem to take an argument telling it what kernel to use ... ?
[11:31] <ladydoor> gansinho: (look for pocket-pc-related events)
[11:31] <gansinho> ladydoor: thanks! I'll try
[11:31] <tony_> hello . i have this strange problem .
[11:31] <silvertip257> sethk:  how do i get to the root file system from booting w/ the cd in & on ?
[11:31] <Citizin> SethK, heres my Xorg.Conf file
[11:31] <Citizin> http://pastebin.ca/184405
[11:31] <kitche> vasp: wait nevermind read your questoin wrong
[11:31] <vasp> kitche, noticed :)
[11:31] <tony_> when i install ubuntu on same harddrive with window , ubuntu can not recognize my network controller
[11:32] <sethk> silvertip257, do the fdisk command I gave you, and paste the results to the paste web site.  then we can tell you how to mount the root file system.
[11:32] <tony_> why is that
[11:32] <sethk> Citizin, the log?
[11:32] <renatoborghi> i've downloaded a subtitle file for a movie, and i don't know how to play it during the video. can someone help me?
[11:32] <renatoborghi> it's a .srt
[11:32] <silvertip257> sethk:  wait how do i get to where i need to type that?
[11:32] <michoelc> Hi. I just installed apache2 on my box. I was told that I could use webmin to configure it.. but I can't find where to in webmin.. I don't mind configuring it myself.. but where do I find the configuration file?
[11:32] <andyross> Hrm... this room might be too high traffic for folks to notice.  Trying again: anyone ever built a vanilla kernel onto an Ubuntu system and make the initrd work?  How?
[11:32] <silvertip257> sethk:  i'm using 2 computers right now
[11:32] <sethk> silvertip257, at a command prompt
[11:32] <LinAsH> just name it the same as the movie with .srt
[11:33] <silvertip257> sethk:  the terminal thing right?
[11:33] <vasp> I just installed beagle, and now when I press the search shortcut nothing comes up. any ideas? :)
[11:33] <Citizin> Sethk, wheres the log location again?
[11:33] <sethk> silvertip257, yes, that's one way to get to a command prompt
[11:33] <hantu> is there some sort of "script" to use different config file for apt depending on your internet connection?
[11:33] <sethk> Citizin, /var/log/X.....
[11:33] <gansinho> vasp: using XGL ?
[11:33] <zoredache> how are you building your kernel andyross?  make-kpkg?
[11:33] <silvertip257> sethk:  ok i'm on it
[11:33] <vasp> gansinho, no.
[11:33] <DB42> hi, i'm still having grub issues, what is this:
[11:33] <andyross> zoredache: No.  A vanilla kernel.  Not the package.
[11:33] <DB42> grub-install /dev/sda5
[11:33] <DB42> /dev/sda7: Not found or not a block device.
[11:33] <DB42> ?
[11:33] <renatoborghi> trying again.... i've downloaded a subtitle file for a movie, and i don't know how to play it during the video. can someone help me?
[11:34] <gansinho> vasp: here doesn't work too, but I though it was something related to xgl. .. sorry, can't help you
[11:34] <hantu> hrm, apt-config
[11:34] <zoredache> make-kpkg is a debian/ubuntu tool that will take the vanilla source and then build you a .deb package for the kernel and all the scripts the system needs to update the bootloader and generate the initrd images
[11:34] <betzi>  someone knows a better way to enable suspend to ram, than do noapic irqpoll acpi_irq_balance? Is that a hardware problem?
[11:34] <silvertip257> sethk:  nothing displays when i use that command
[11:34] <zoredache> I strongly reccommend you using it for building kernels
[11:34] <vasp> gansinho, ok. I believe it might be because I tweaked Ubuntu to be faster.
[11:34] <sethk> Citizin, make sure the xorg.conf was rewritten.  check it's date with  ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:34] <Citizin> SethK, Log file:http://pastebin.ca/184409
[11:35] <andyross> Right, but I don't *want* the package.  I need to write a script to generate the initrd file, and what is there is a frothing mess.  Surely *someone* does kernel development on an Ubuntu box?  Generating package is a big mess
[11:35] <Citizin> SethK, it was rewritten
[11:35] <DB42> can anybody help ?
[11:35] <morphir> i need to chmod read access to a directory on my server, so it sets read access permanantly.. what the chmod command?
[11:35] <DB42> getting my ubuntu working again
[11:35] <silvertip257> sethk:  i've already run the live CD GUI, that's where i'm using the terminal/command prompt
[11:35] <morphir> *is
[11:35] <gansinho> ladydoor: there are no pocket pc related events in dmesg|tail
[11:35] <gansinho> =/
[11:36] <renatoborghi> hummmm.... can someone at least respond to me? even a no will do... i've downloaded a .srt subtitle file for a movie, and i don't know how to play it during the video. can someone help me?
[11:36] <LinAsH> renatoborghi, just name it the same as the movie with .srt
[11:36] <ladydoor> gansinho: is it usb? if so, were there any usb-related events?
[11:36] <silvertip257> sethk:  are you there?
[11:36] <renatoborghi> ok, LinAsH
[11:36] <LinAsH> renatoborghi, (with mplayer)
[11:36] <renatoborghi> but what do i do to play it?
[11:36] <factotum> ack, to replace the menu icon in gnome, what do you have to rename the file to? I cant remember, system-icon or something?
[11:36] <gansinho> ladydoor: it  is usb (is a pretty new ppc )
[11:37] <ladydoor> renatoborghi: do lastlog LinAsH 5 to see the *last* time that got said, before getting impatient...
[11:37] <Yaakov> renatoborghi: http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=.srt%20subtitles&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[11:37] <gansinho> ladydoor: I'll paste in pastebin the result ok?
[11:37] <ladydoor> gansinho: kk
[11:37] <factotum> i gotta start writing stuff down lol
[11:38] <sethk> Citizin, it isn't identifying your monitor correctly
[11:38] <silvertip257> is sethk still in this channel?
[11:38] <Yaakov> sethk just spoke
[11:38] <Citizin> sethk, so how can I fix that.
[11:38] <renatoborghi> ok, thx a lot LinAsH
[11:38] <factotum> maybe ill go ask in #gnome
[11:38] <Citizin> It identifys it as a F760 when its a F7600
[11:38] <silvertip257> ok well sethk is not responding to me anymore
[11:38] <sethk> Citizin, let me look, hold on a minute
[11:38] <sethk> silvertip257, sorry, I'm working at the same time
[11:38] <silvertip257> sethk:  it's ok
[11:39] <Afief> In OO.o math, how can i make the expression (%DELTA y) over (%DELTA X) look correctly formated without the ()? (sorry, but the OO.o user support channel didn't answer)
[11:39] <sethk> silvertip257, what did fdisk -l do?
[11:39] <silvertip257> sethk:  fdisk -l did nothing
[11:39] <LinAsH> Afief, with {} instead ?
[11:40] <sethk> silvertip257, it can't
[11:40] <sethk> silvertip257, you have to describe what you see, not how you misinterpret it.
[11:40] <silvertip257> sethk:  it's weird how i have it set up b/c if i had my drive on w/ my dvd drive the formatting utility wouldnt recog it
[11:40] <gansinho> ladydoor:  http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/742 (the other pastebin (in english is laggin)
[11:40] <sethk> Citizin, go through the dpkg-reconfigure but override the monitor choice, and choose generic monitor
[11:40] <silvertip257> sethk:  i dont think that's the prob tho
[11:40] <Afief> LinAsH, thanks that solved it
[11:40] <Citizin> What do you mean choose Generic Monitor?
[11:40] <Citizin> Where it wants a name?
[11:40] <silvertip257> sethk:  ok i typed in fdisk -l /dev/hda
[11:40] <Hoovey> I wish there was Photoshop CS2 for Linux ;(
[11:40] <sethk> Citizin, there will be a choice of generic monitors with various maximum resolutions.  pick the one that fits best
[11:40] <sethk> silvertip257, yes, and?
[11:41] <silvertip257> sethk:  nothing shows up except the prompt again
[11:41] <DB42> can anybody help ?
[11:41] <DB42> grub-install /dev/sda5
[11:41] <DB42> /dev/sda7: Not found or not a block device.
[11:41] <DB42> how is sda7 and sda5 related ? :)
[11:41] <Citizin> sudo dpkg-reconfigure does nothing
[11:41] <sethk> silvertip257, nothing?  are you in front of it at this moment and you are certain that you type return, and get only a prompt?  (which by the way is far from doing nothing)
[11:42] <ladydoor> gansinho: weird. and you say that you'd already checked for a new device in /dev?
[11:42] <LjL> DB42: uh, uhm... are you sure there isn't *any* reference to sda7 left in your menu.lst? (i looked and i didn't find one, but just to be sure...)
[11:42] <sethk> silvertip257, if that's true, you must not be using an IDE drive
[11:42] <silvertip257> sethk:  when i type the command it jumps to another line and prompts me for another command
[11:42] <DB42> none
[11:42] <matahari> hi
[11:42] <sethk> silvertip257, or you aren't using primary master
[11:42] <matahari> i hav a strange error:
[11:42] <silvertip257> sethk:   type the command & hit enter
[11:42] <matahari> i want to boot from the livecd
[11:42] <DB42> by for some reason my / is mounted from /dev/sda7 (while i'm suer it doesnt exist) maybe thats the problem ?
[11:42] <sethk> silvertip257, if you are sure it's an IDE drive
[11:42] <sethk> silvertip257, then try it for hda, hdb, hdc, and hdd.
[11:43] <matahari> but i always get into "Busybox" and there is only a root shell
[11:43] <silvertip257> sethk:  it's damn well on an ide
[11:43] <silvertip257> sethk:  ok i'll try that
[11:43] <matahari> i already checked the md5sums, they are okay
[11:43] <gansinho> ladydoor: I did the commands : ls /dev > /tmp/before  then ls /dev > /tmp/after  then diff /tmp/before /tmp/after
[11:43] <gansinho> ladydoor:  but nothing shows up =//
[11:43] <sethk> silvertip257, the problem you are seeing is common with SATA.  but you said you are sure it's IDE, so one of those should show something, if only an error.
[11:44] <ladydoor> gansinho: ok...i'm really sorry but that's about all i've got. you should perhaps do a search on http://www.ubuntuforums.org for pocket-pc or something...if you can't find anything, posting there will get you some attention :-)
[11:44] <ladydoor> gansinho: good luck
[11:44] <Citizin> Sethk, Im at "Enter and identifed for your monitor" Should I type "Generic Monitor"?
[11:44] <silvertip257> sethk:  none of the other switches do anything, it just gives me another prompt
[11:45] <sethk> Citizin, sure, the name doesn't matter
[11:45] <Docta> ello... um i have problem installing rar for linux can someone help
[11:45] <gansinho> ladydoor: thanks (for the time you spent/sorry bad english)a lot anyway
[11:45] <sethk> silvertip257, you are absolutely certain it is IDE, and not SATA Or SCSI
[11:45] <LinAsH> Docta, apt-get install unrar
[11:46] <Docta> i unzip the file i downloaded and then theres a folder with no files to run
[11:46] <vasp> I just installed beagle, and now when I press the search shortcut nothing comes up. any ideas? :)
[11:46] <gottreu> I have a fresh install of Dapper Drake, what's the best way to start running Eft?
[11:46] <LjL> Docta, rar is in the repositories. you don't need to download or unzip anything manually
[11:46] <ladydoor> gansinho: your english is fine :-)
[11:46] <LjL> !tell Docta about packages
[11:46] <DB42> LjL,  ?
[11:46] <sethk> silvertip257, do you have an extra IDE controller that allows you to connect more than four IDE devices?
[11:46] <LjL> Docta: "sudo apt-get install rar". and enable multiverse if you have it disabled.
[11:46] <gansinho> ladydoor: thanks a lot, godbye
[11:47] <silvertip257> sethk:  no i cannot connect more than 4 ide devices
[11:47] <crweb> how do i fix all my   perl: warning: Setting locale failed.   messages?  ( sorry if you messaged earlier I have hard time parsing everything)
[11:47] <Docta> where do i find sudo apt-get install rar
[11:47] <Flannel> gottreu: You can upgrade to it, there might be some outstanding issues, but not that I'm aware of, ask in #ubuntu+1
[11:47] <ladydoor> Docta: ...you don't find it
[11:47] <LjL> DB42: wait, i'm not getting you... your root partition ("/") is /dev/sda7, but not while user? i don't understand that
[11:47] <sethk> silvertip257, are you sure there isn't a hardware problem here?
[11:47] <LjL> Docta: you just have to type that in the shell
[11:47] <gottreu> Flannel: another channel..yay!  Thanks. :)
[11:47] <DB42> i dont have /dev/sda7 yet mount says that / is /dev/sda7 ...
[11:47] <silvertip257> sethk:  i'm quite sure
[11:47] <Docta> ok
[11:47] <gibbyno> sera
[11:47] <gibbyno> :D
[11:47] <LjL> !it
[11:47] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:48] <sethk> silvertip257, the ubuntu live cd isn't helping.  burn that rescue cd.
[11:48] <DB42> i think i'll update /etc/fstab and reboot, and retry :|
[11:48] <netG> hi
[11:48] <gibbyno> ah..ok :D
[11:48] <sethk> silvertip257, it does a better job of finding disk hardware.
[11:48] <LjL> DB42: uhm, either your partition table is a bit messed up, or... duh
[11:48] <DB42> nah, it's fine
[11:48] <netG> in there a working dapper-security mirror???
[11:48] <silvertip257> sethk:  well i know it's not SCSI for sure
[11:48] <DB42> linux support for changing the partition table is abit totally borked though :)
[11:48] <sethk> silvertip257, ok, how about SATA?
[11:48] <Yaakov> Docta: sudo allows you to act as root temporarily, apt-get is the package manager utility, install is a argument to it to tell it what to do, and rar is the name of the package.
[11:48] <DB42> even windows xp handles it better
[11:48] <netG> please help me!!!
[11:49] <LjL> DB42: well, myself i've had horrible experiences with touching the partition table and running windows... YMMV
[11:49] <LjL> !helpme
[11:49] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:49] <ladydoor> netG: calm down
[11:49] <silvertip257> sethk:  I'm not using any SATA drives in anything i work on either
[11:49] <DB42> welp, i'll reboot
[11:49] <transgress_> how can i see all mounted devices?
[11:50] <ph8> 'mount'
[11:50] <ph8> from the command line
[11:50] <Docta> urg i cant find the shell you guys are talking about im a noob i got this OS yesterday
[11:50] <LjL> Docta, you can do everything via a graphical interface if you prefer.
[11:50] <ph8> Docta: Applications -> accessories -> terminal
[11:50] <LjL> !tell docta about synaptic
[11:50] <ph8> or use the gui
[11:50] <twopoint0> is there someone available that could help me get codecs set up to play avi/mpg/wmv formats as well as dvds?
[11:51] <twopoint0> i've done a lot of looking, and i can't find what it is i need
[11:51] <ph8> twopoint0: Get the package 'w32codecs'
[11:51] <LjL> Docta: you need to search for the "rar" package inside synaptic. if it's not there, then you have to enable multiverse. the site the bot gave you has instructions
[11:51] <silvertip257> sethk:  i'm using ubuntu's command prompt fyi
[11:51] <ph8> avi's can vary in their encoding
[11:51] <chris_> I've totally mucked up my wireless drivers - how do I restore my system to the shipped wireless drivers?
[11:51] <sethk> silvertip257, ok, try running lspci
[11:51] <LjL> !tell twopoint0 about w32codecs
[11:51] <sethk> silvertip257, see if it shows IDE interfaces and/or SATA interfaces
[11:51] <silvertip257> sethk:  run what lol?
[11:51] <sethk> silvertip257, lspci
[11:51] <sethk> silvertip257, means list PCI
[11:53] <twopoint0> but i can't use it if i'm using an amd 64?
[11:53] <silvertip257> sethk:   ok well it shows the USB and ethernet
[11:53] <DB42> LjL, yeah that was the problem :)
[11:53] <sethk> silvertip257, how about IDE and SATA?
[11:53] <LjL> DB42: that is, bad fstab?
[11:53] <silvertip257> sethk:  nothing regarding hard drives
[11:54] <DB42> yeap
[11:54] <silvertip257> sethk:  what does lspci have to do with IDE ?
[11:54] <jdh41> Hi,m I'm remastering an ubuntu CD for a specific purpose, and need to put some additional files onto the desktop of the liveCD - what and where do I need to change files in the filesystem to do this
[11:54] <Milk_> Does anyone know of a way to control XMMS via CLI and shell scrits?
[11:54] <sethk> silvertip257, the IDE interface is connected to the processor via the PCI bus
[11:54] <LinAsH> twopoint0, search for mplayer32 in the forum
[11:54] <ayiden> i just installed ubuntu 6.06 and for some reason i cannot see anything when i try and access bash shell... cntrl alt f1 blinks and then i see black screen....????
[11:54] <sethk> silvertip257, no IDE controller, no disk
[11:54] <jdh41> Milk_: man xmms ?
[11:54] <ladydoor> Milk_: you could use a different music player, a command-line one...
[11:54] <sethk> silvertip257, reboot your box, run the BIOS setup, and see what disks it shows
[11:54] <Citizin> Sethk, still no luck.
[11:55] <ayiden> i hold cntrl alt f7 and poof im at xserver screen
[11:55] <sethk> silvertip257, make sure the on board IDE isn't disabled in the BIOS setup
[11:55] <silvertip257> sethk:  well wth i've got one cause i boot windows on another drive w/ this machine
[11:55] <Citizin> Could this just be impossible for me to get out of 800x600?
[11:55] <Citizin> Maybe Ubuntu just hates me.
[11:55] <ayiden> so i just cant see command line
[11:55] <chris_> Is there anyone able to help me out?  I have mucked up my wireless drivers and my device no longer shows up.  How can I restore the shipping drivers or am I SOL?
[11:55] <sethk> Citizin, just as a test, try changing "nvidia" to "nv" in xorg.conf
[11:55] <ayiden> i cant see it at start up and i get no splash screen at startup
[11:55] <Citizin> I heard that makes the video card not work.
[11:55] <Milk_> ladydoor, the problem is, I need to control it via CRON to do things on the playlist/ skipt to songs
[11:55] <DB42> trying to reboot
[11:56] <ayiden> any ideas?
[11:56] <ladydoor> Milk_: ah. i guess read the manpage
[11:56] <Milk_> ladydoor, its not much help :(
[11:56] <ladydoor> Milk_: or infodocs (even better) if it has those)
[11:56] <ayiden> or is 6.06 just setup this way?!?!?
[11:56] <Milk_> ladydoor, unless you have a better idea on how to play a playlist, but play a specific song at specific times
[11:56] <Flannel> Milk_: you might be more interested in mpd or something
[11:56] <LinAsH> twopoint0, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188974
[11:57] <Milk_> Flannel, mpd?
[11:57] <twopoint0> ty
[11:57] <silvertip257> sethk:  i'm workin on it
[11:57] <ayiden> I cannot see my bash shell on f1-f6 I only see xserver and at startup everything is fine i just see black screen until gdm comes up
[11:58] <ayiden> help?
[11:58] <Flannel> Milk_: http://www.musicpd.org/
[11:58] <ayiden> how can I get the shell and see the splash screen at boot
[11:58] <Milk_> Flannel, thanks!
[11:58] <sethk> ayiden, after the gui comes up, do you have the consoles?
[11:59] <Citizin> Sethk, the funny thing is, during auto-detecting, I deselected 800x600 as a avalible resolution, and it's still running in it
[11:59] <sethk> Citizin, if you look at the log, that's quite understandable
[11:59] <sethk> Citizin, it says that it has rejected all configured modes, and is using a default mode
[11:59] <ayiden> sethk: I only have f7+ i can only see gdm/gnome etc... I cannot see anything on f1-f6
[11:59] <sethk> Citizin, that default mode turns out to be 800x600 in your case
[11:59] <Citizin> I see.
[11:59] <ayiden> I only see GUI
[12:00] <sethk> ayiden, do this:     ps aux | grep tty            see if it shows anything
[12:00] <ayiden> when i try to switch to console I see login for a split second and then its just black
[12:00] <sethk> ayiden, better, do:  ps aux | grep getty
[12:00] <silvertip257> sethk:  i've put my hd on the primary ide cable, but my bios freezes
[12:00] <sethk> silvertip257, now that's quite interesting.
[12:00] <silvertip257> sethk:  does that mean there is a conflict w/ the other drive (a DVD drive)on it
[12:01] <sethk> silvertip257, make sure the drive is jumpered for cable select if you have an EIDE cable