[12:11] <dad> you mean partician magic?
[12:11] <dad> i installed it
[12:11] <dad> before i reformatted
[12:11] <Rambo3> you can't have add/remove aplication running and apt from Windows like Dos terminal
[12:11] <dad> i thought it was erased
[12:12] <dad> what do i do
[12:12] <dad> how does this work
[12:12] <dad> :(
[12:12] <INFP-Shevek> Does anyone know of a quicktime .MOV player with a graphical user interface (read: pause button) that can be easily installed in Kubuntu?
[12:12] <Rambo3> sudo killall synaptic
[12:12] <dad> how
[12:12] <dad> :|
[12:12] <Rambo3> sorry you are on kde
[12:12] <dad> ?
[12:12] <Rambo3> !enter
[12:12] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[12:13] <dad> how do i install firefox in kubunto
[12:13] <dad> u
[12:13] <h3sp4wn> dad: sudo aptitude install firefox
[12:13] <LjL> dad: "sudo apt-get install firefox" from a console
[12:14] <Rambo3> just use a *#"! GUI frontend
[12:14] <LjL> Rambo3: well, that won't be of any help, if his problem is that the database is locked.
[12:14] <dad> i dont know what that means
[12:15] <dad> ok  thanks lll
[12:15] <LjL> Rambo3: (besides, it's a *tad* easier to explain how to install firefox from a console, isn't it)
[12:15] <dad> ljl
[12:15] <INFP-Shevek> Umm, about that quicktime player, ppl?
[12:15] <LjL> dad: if that errors out saying that the "APT database is locked", or something, be sure you close Adept or any other package-managing applications you might have running...
[12:15] <Rambo3> database is locked becouse of updatemanager
[12:15] <LjL> Rambo3: oh, why does it do that?
[12:16] <Rambo3> sudo killall Adept
[12:16] <Rambo3> he opend it , i dont know
[12:16] <Rambo3> dad in teminal type :sudo killall Adept
[12:16] <INFP-Shevek> Does anyone know of a quicktime .MOV player with a graphical user interface (read: pause button) that can be easily installed in Kubuntu?
[12:16] <dad> what are so files
[12:17] <dad> SO
[12:17] <LjL> eh?
[12:17] <proger> I spent 3 hours trying to install easyubuntu :( can do it :(
[12:17] <dad> SO format
[12:17] <INFP-Shevek> Shared object. Like a DLL file in Windows.
[12:17] <h3sp4wn> .so files ?
[12:17] <dad> what is that
[12:17] <LjL> dad: files with a ".so" extension are shared libraries
[12:17] <dad> what about xpt
[12:17] <LjL> dunno
[12:17] <dad> maybe they're compressed?
[12:17] <dad> maybe i forgot to uncompress something?
[12:17] <LjL> but why where what who?
[12:18] <INFP-Shevek> Noone here know about a working QuickTime player with a GUI for Kubuntu?
[12:18] <LjL> dad, what you're trying to do is install firefox - correct?
[12:19] <proger> LjL: when I run ' python easyubuntu.in' i have err msg :X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[12:19] <INFP-Shevek> Can anyone even hear me here?
[12:20] <rideout> INFP-Shevek: mplayer, xine, vlc
[12:20] <proger> any idea whats wrong
[12:20] <INFP-Shevek> mplayer has no GUI though. And I thought Xine was just a media library?
[12:20] <rideout> INFP-Shevek: kplayer gui, kaffeine for xine
[12:20] <LjL> proger: err, no. never used easyubuntu
[12:21] <proger> ok, its doesnt seems so easyanyway
[12:21] <INFP-Shevek> VLC seems worth checking out. Kaffeine chokes on .MOV files.
[12:21] <LjL> INFP-Shevek: xine is an engine... it also has a gui, "xine-ui". not native KDE though
[12:21] <rideout> INFP-Shevek: make sure you have the right codexs
[12:21] <rideout> LjL: yeah, but kaffeine use xine and is great
[12:21] <INFP-Shevek> Can I install a codec to make MOV files work in Kaffeine?
[12:21] <dad> im going to go on a mind kill rampage
[12:22] <LjL> rideout: yeah, honestly though i have no idea if either can play quicktime
[12:22] <rideout> INFP-Shevek: mov files use a bunch of different codec, plus there are some weird issues with streaming and some codecs
[12:22] <rideout> sound usually is supported, but not always video
[12:22] <ARogue> Can someone field a question on how to install kdar on edgy?  The package managers say a dependency does not exist.
[12:23] <INFP-Shevek> I'm gonna try VLC. It says on the site it supports MOV. I'll be back if it doesn't work.
[12:23] <INFP-Shevek> Thanks ppl.
[12:23] <Rambo3> !info kdar edgy
[12:23] <ubotu> kdar: archive data to disc. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 1268 kB, installed size 2212 kB
[12:23] <LjL> ARogue: try asking on #ubuntu+1 perhaps
[12:24] <ARogue> k, i just started using kbuntu a few dys ago so I don't know my way around yet (gentoo on my other boxes) -- thanks for the pointer
[12:25] <h3sp4wn> ARogue: libdar3c2a is not installable
[12:25] <oem> wenas
[12:25] <LjL> ARogue: well, perhaps you'd be better off using the stable version (Dapper)...?
[12:25] <ARogue> yes, that is the message I got -- what does it mean?
[12:25] <Rambo3> ARogue: i cant find it in repos even with all of them enabled
[12:25] <enrold> hi all
[12:26] <h3sp4wn> ARogue: Probably means something has been updated but the virtual package has not yet file a bug
[12:26] <proger> when I log on to KDE Konversation starts in Maximized mode,its whery annoying is there is someway, how to autostart minimezed
[12:26] <ARogue> LjL -- I wanted to use dapper, but I really wanted some mdadm features that were not in dapper, but were in edgy for my raid arrays
[12:26] <LjL> i see
[12:27] <rideout> that is because libdar64-4 replaced libdar3c2a
[12:27] <ARogue> I guess the answer is to just wait -- dar works fine, but it doesn't provide a reasonable way to search -- you kind of gotta list and grep
[12:28] <Acc> why does the controlcentre tell me: the driver is not where it is supposed to be
[12:28] <Acc> ?
[12:29] <rideout> ARogue: it looks like kdar was even, built with libdar64-4, but the debian/control file wasn't ever updated
[12:29] <ARogue> rideout, ok thanks, so it's probably just a matter of waiting for kdar to be updated.
[12:29] <LjL> proger: perhaps right click on the window title, then "Advanced", then "Special application settings", then check "Minimized", and (i assume) "Apply initially". haven't actually tried.
[12:30] <LjL> what's dar anyway?
[12:30] <Acc> how can i now get to a working canon i550 printer driver
[12:30] <rideout> ARogue: you should contact the ubuntu maintainer, that is how it gets updated, I bet it isn't something they're aware of
[12:30] <Acc> ?
[12:30] <ARogue> Is this something I can fix myself, or should I perhaps resort to my gentoo ways and grab the source and compile
[12:30] <Rambo3> works too
[12:30] <Rambo3> configure make make install
[12:31] <rideout> ARogue: i just checked the .deb, it actually is compiled fine, but the stated dependencies are wrong
[12:31] <Lexaeus> ok I need help
[12:31] <ARogue> rideout, k, I know this sounds naive, but what the approved way to contact the developer?
[12:32] <Lexaeus> when the CD boots, all goes well until it loads the X server, at which point the screen goes blank, however, if I let it sit for a bit longer, I hear the startup sound and everything seems idle, waiting for me to use it
[12:32] <rideout> apt-cache show  kdar | grep Maintainer
[12:32] <rideout> but sometimes that guy is only from debian and not ubuntu
[12:32] <ARogue> LjL, dar is a very nice little backup program
[12:33] <rideout> try asking on #kubuntu-devel
[12:33] <Lexaeus> me?
[12:33] <baka_> alguem pode me ajudar aqui?
[12:33] <LjL> !pt
[12:33] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[12:33] <rideout> Lexaeus: sorry, no ARogue
[12:33] <baka_> gostaria de saber como eu posso logar como ROOT para editar o meu menu.lst? porque quando eu edito eu nao consigo salvar
[12:34] <rideout>  ARogue also, i think Riddell maintains most kde packages
[12:34] <ARogue> rideout, thank you, do that.   ps., you guys are very helpful, thanks, so far I'm enjoying kbuntu and am not missing the hours of compiles on gentoo
[12:35] <ARogue> oops, I'll do that --- not do that!!!
[12:35] <Lexaeus> ...compiling KDE in Gentoo...
[12:36] <rideout> Lexaeus: i was once crazy enought to try lfs
[12:36] <Lexaeus> argh
[12:36] <h3sp4wn> I still mean to try cross-lfs
[12:36] <ARogue> yeah, compiling KDE in gentoo is an all day affair, but I guess it make you feel like a eal man <G>
[12:36] <ARogue> eal = real
[12:37] <Lexaeus> but anyway, does anyone have any idea what's up with my problem? it IS a laptop, and this did happen to me before, I swear...I just don't remember how I fixed it
[12:38] <bLaZeD> !conky
[12:38] <ubotu> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 95 kB, installed size 316 kB
[12:39] <rideout> Lexaeus: can you do a ctrl+alt+f1 to get to the terminal and then look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[12:39] <Riddell> hi ARogue, glad you like kubuntu
[12:39] <Lexaeus> yes I can, let me boot the LiveCD and come back...
[12:51] <arafat> is it possible to connect to a wlan without having to use your password? coz i'm installing linux for my mother and i want it to be as less complicated as possible:-)
[12:52] <h3sp4wn> man interfaces / man wireless / cat /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes (
[12:52] <h3sp4wn> ask what you don't understand
[12:53] <arafat> cool! exactly what i need! Thanks!
[12:55] <Acc> i have downlaoded a package
[12:55] <Acc> apt-get says can't find
[12:55] <Acc> do i have to add the directory to sources.list?
[12:56] <Lexaeus> ok...
[12:56] <Blissex> Acc: not as simple as that unfortunately. Just use 'dpkg' perhaps.
[12:56] <Blissex> Acc: else use 'apt-ftp' or similar to build a repository index.
[12:57] <Blissex> Acc: and then add the repository to the list of sources as you said.
[12:58] <Lexaeus> says a whole whack of stuff about not being able to open /dev/wacom, whatever that is
[01:00] <Acc> aha
[01:00] <Acc> thank u
[01:00] <jpiccolo> wacom is the pads that you can write on and show up on the screen
[01:00] <rideout> Lexaeus: that is for tablets, enabled by degault, it is just ignored if you don't have one
[01:00] <Lexaeus> ok
[01:00] <Acc> and dpkg is already on my computer or do i have to install ist and whats the package name?
[01:00] <rideout> Lexaeus: anything else shown, did you do a grep EE? or grep WW
[01:01] <Blissex> Acc: 'dpkg' is what 'apt-get' uses to actually install things. 'apt-get' is a frontend that downloads packages and their dependencies, and then uses 'dpkg' to install/remove them.
[01:01] <Lexaeus> I'll pastebin my log
[01:02] <Lexaeus> but to me, everything looks fine
[01:02] <Lexaeus> I think it's some sort of setting in the xorg.conf I need to turn on for the monitor...but for gods sake I cannot remember what it is
[01:03] <inteliwasp> i think i must have POed some higher power... nothing today is going right...
[01:03] <Acc> ah, thx, the pieces seem to come together slowly, day by day.. won't give up :)
[01:05] <Homer> is there a character map like program for KDE?
[01:05] <Jucato> !kcharselect
[01:05] <ubotu> kcharselect: character selector for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 69 kB, installed size 332 kB
[01:06] <menace_> !usplash
[01:06] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[01:06] <Jucato> Homer: kcharselect ^^^^
[01:07] <Homer> k
[01:08] <inteliwasp> anyone have any experience with the ati binary?
[01:09] <h3sp4wn> In what sense
[01:09] <h3sp4wn> !ati
[01:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:10] <rideout> inteliwasp: what would you like to know?
[01:11] <inteliwasp> oh just need to fix X... it does not like the ati binary after the last kernel update
[01:14] <Dr_willis> edit the xorg.conf and  change the fglrx driver back to somthing else.. untill you can try ti get it working again.. perhaps
[01:14] <Lexaeus> ok, http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/0NHNHk72.html
[01:18] <rideout> inteliwasp: the driver probably needs to recompiled, if you installed it yourself
[01:18] <gekko`> If I copy a hdd to another one with dd, does it also copy the mbr over?
[01:18] <rideout> inteliwasp: if you use the restriced packaged you need to wait until the maintainers update it or you can just install it yourself
[01:18] <Dr_willis> depends on the dd command.
[01:18] <Dr_willis> yes it can.
[01:19] <rideout> rideout: also make you run depmod, i've frustatingly forgotten that a few times
[01:19] <software_> kubuntu-es
[01:19] <gekko`> Dr_willis: ok, so it would look like this: dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb right? hda source, hdb destination
[01:19] <software_> necesito ayuda en espaol
[01:19] <Jucato> !es
[01:19] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:20] <software_> gracias
[01:20] <Dr_willis> yep.. gekko`
[01:20] <gekko`> ok thanks
[01:20] <Dr_willis> gekko`,  those 2 drives are IDENTICAL in size are they not?
[01:21] <gekko`> yep
[01:21] <Dr_willis> exactly down to the atom identical? :P
[01:21] <gekko`> i dont know that exactly :-D
[01:21] <TIM90> help,
[01:21] <gekko`> Dr_willis: why, it could be a problem?
[01:21] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. i just noticed that all my bookmarks got trashed..
[01:21] <Dr_willis> gekko`,  dd ing from a 120gb hd to a 200gb hd = 80gb that gets lost somewhere.. :P
[01:22] <Dr_willis> doing the reverse - is even worse
[01:22] <Jucato> !ask
[01:22] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:22] <TIM90> i installed kubuntu a wile back but i keep getting crash (i think its my ati card 9550
[01:23] <gekko`> Dr_willis: that doesn't sound good. Could I cp all files and then just dd the mbr to the other hdd?
[01:24] <TIM90> Any one know why
[01:24] <nanotube> hello, is it possible to install realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8185 IEEE 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 20)
[01:25] <nanotube> I do not have a module for that..
[01:25] <nanotube> where do I need to look?
[01:26] <Dr_willis> cp may screw up with links and permissions
[01:26] <TIM90> =-Ook thnks:-$
[01:26] <Dr_willis> gekko`,  theres some tar command with a few extra optiosn that the prefered way to 'mirror' a drive.
[01:28] <abaldwin> so...Ive now ben using Kubuntu for several days, and liking it...but I am experiencing a little weirdness.  KDE SCreensaver is not comin g on at all.  And Karamba seems to dump my network connection (Lquid weather, I figure, must be doing something weird when updating itself, perhap?)
[01:28] <abaldwin> outside of those two things, I like it here
[01:28] <Dr_willis> *#&$&# eye candy
[01:29] <Dr_willis> :P
[01:29] <Dr_willis> screensavers are to save the screen! not show Porn images.. Err... vacation pics...
[01:29] <Dr_willis> I got a weather extension for firefox i perfer.
[01:29] <Dr_willis> I think theres a weather applet for the panel as well
[01:29] <abaldwin> well, I only have px of my wife on the slideshow...and not the nudie ones I took on our honeymoon, either
[01:30] <Dr_willis> Got a url? :P .. oh wait.. you said NOT.... never mind..
[01:30] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:30] <Dr_willis> My wife was in some silly XXX chat room and they watned to see her.. so she turned on the tv and poped in a Porn Flick... then pointed the webcam at the tv...
[01:30] <abaldwin> theyd melt your monitor...My wife is HOT!  She from Brasil
[01:31] <Dr_willis> Now that was funny.
[01:31] <Dr_willis> My wife is HOT-tempered - shes a redhead.
[01:31] <abaldwin> that is funny
[01:31] <Dr_willis> and she can throw a mean shoe.
[01:31] <abaldwin> yeah, my wife likes to break plates...hot latina temper
[01:32] <Dr_willis> Thats why I buy paper plates now.
[01:32] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:32] <abaldwin> I had all kinds of issues with kde scrnsaver in fedora, too, so im wondering if its just kde screen saver
[01:32] <abaldwin> I configure it to require a password to re-enter.
[01:33] <abaldwin> I was using th slideshow, but changed to ktuxsaver, doesnt seem to make a difference
[01:33] <Dr_willis>  i just have the monitor power down after 5 min.
[01:33] <Dr_willis> i must be old-skool
[01:33] <abaldwin> yeah...but I like eye-candy
[01:34] <Dr_willis> Like your wife.. :P
[01:34] <abaldwin> yeah
[01:34] <Dr_willis> Call her that.. and see how mad she gets...
[01:34] <abaldwin> I always treat her with the utmost respect
[01:34] <abaldwin> she demands it
[01:34] <abaldwin> and merits it, as well
[01:34] <abaldwin> not only gorgeous, she is also brilliant
[01:35] <abaldwin> but I do tell her frequently just how HOT she does look.
[01:35] <abaldwin> I dont think calling her eye-candy would phase her a bit
[01:35] <Acc> what is the last way out? no driver brings i550 canon printer to print
[01:35] <Acc> what can i do now?
[01:36] <abaldwin> dunno,  hve hp deskjet 5550, foomatic and hjis
[01:36] <Acc> buy a new printer, step back to windows again?
[01:36] <abaldwin> HP printers are well supported in linux
[01:36] <Acc> i see
[01:36] <abaldwin> mine works like a charm
[01:36] <abaldwin> but the kde print configure thingy should find the right driver and then you should be fine
[01:37] <abaldwin> only, make sure youve enabled it for all users, or, at least, the user account from which you are trying to print
[01:37] <abaldwin> I learned that the hard way
[01:38] <Acc> no, there is merely one driver on the whole internet, build for rpm.. i got it and did did... nothing.. just one small error message
[01:38] <qed_> try this for dd    http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=362506
[01:40] <Acc> i'll try one more thing now
[01:47] <Acc> not now
[01:47] <Acc> tomorrow is a day either
[01:53] <jpiccolo_> where is the equivelent to the host file from windows in linux?
[01:53] <LjL> what's the host file in windows?
[01:53] <Celeste> jpiccolo_, /etc/hosts
[01:53] <Celeste> LjL, there is one ... really *g*
[01:54] <Celeste> jpiccolo_, /etc/hosts  can be edited as root (sudo -s)
[01:54] <Celeste> its a file without a suffix
[01:54] <LjL> i can believe that, i'm just not too familiar with windows :)
[01:54] <Celeste> LjL, are you an advanced kubuntu user?
[01:55] <Celeste> I would like to hear the opinion of an advanced user about something
[01:55] <LjL> Celeste, not really... i know linux better than i know windows, but i know neither extremely well... and i haven't used kubuntu for so long.
[01:55] <Celeste> ok
[01:55] <Celeste> thank you anyway
[01:56] <Celeste> if there is *anyone* here who REALLY *knows* the answer, (and not guesses *g*) then PLEASE tell me the following thing:
[01:56] <LjL> i do know a thing or two about computers in general, and i know roughly how an operating system works and very roughly how to write one, but the specifics... not really ;)
[01:57] <Celeste> Can it slow down my Kubuntu Dapper Drake 6.06.1 System in *any* way,  when I additionally to my  normal KDE  install  "ubuntu-desktop"  for gnome?
[01:58] <LjL> Celeste: yes, because i'm almost sure... well, i mean, i'm not really *guessing*... :P that installing ubuntu-desktop will get you some additional daemons executing. which means a potential slow down
[01:58] <LjL> how appreciable that would be... dunno
[01:58] <Celeste> what daemons?
[01:58] <Junis> i have problems with akregator... each day say me that i have very much post without read... but i had read all this post
[01:58] <Celeste> will it be slower when I start a program like firefox?
[01:59] <Celeste> whats about running KDE when ubuntu-desktop is installed?
[01:59] <Celeste> will kde load any gnome stuff then?
[01:59] <LjL> Celeste: dunno, but there are for instance some ACPI-related daemons that Gnome uses on Ubuntu, while KDE does not.
[02:00] <LjL> Celeste: i really think you won't notice any additional slowness. but if you are in KDE and you load a Gnome program, that of course *will* load slower than if you had loaded it from inside Gnome (since it has to load all the Gnome libraries and stuff from the grounds up)
[02:01] <LjL> Celeste: only real problem i've had with both KDE and Gnome installed is colors, fonts, themes and things like that getting a bit messed up (in an attempt, i assume, to make the look of kde and gnome apps more uniform)
[02:01] <menace_> is gnome for slower computers?
[02:01] <LjL> menace_: no, not really. they're both slow enough :)
[02:01] <menace_> lol ok'
[02:01] <menace_> thanks
[02:01] <Celeste> LjL, ok thank you
[02:02] <LjL> Celeste: note, in any case, that if you use aptitude (as opposed to adept, synaptic, apt-get or whatever) to install ubuntu-desktop, you'll be later able to remove all of it with a single command.
[02:03] <Celeste> and if no developer made anything wrong, I will be able to purge the stuff
[02:03] <Celeste> to time to say a prayer *g*
[02:04] <LjL> heh
[02:04] <LjL> well keep in mind that even if you purge, some files will probably be left in your home dir
[02:04] <LjL> you might or might not care, but...
[02:05] <Celeste> I will keep using KDE
[02:05] <Celeste> LjL, do you use the default KDE ?
[02:05] <Celeste> or can it be pepped up?
[02:06] <menace_> am i allowed to show a link to ask a question about?...like ask how to make your kicker look a certain way
[02:06] <Celeste> menace_, of course
[02:06] <menace_> ok
[02:07] <menace_> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=46375&PHPSESSID=bc6235ca2d5b345bd2a748830b46d4b7
[02:07] <Celeste> links are not prohibited here
[02:07] <menace_> hw could i make my kicker look like that?
[02:07] <menace_> im running kubuntu
[02:07] <Celeste> as far as I know, they are allowed in every single support channel on the whole IRC network
[02:07] <Celeste> lemme look
[02:07] <menace_> ok
[02:07] <LjL> Celeste: what do you mean with "default"?
[02:07] <menace_> because that kicker is beautiful
[02:07] <Celeste> HEH
[02:08] <Celeste> ok, I  WILL  use KDE !
[02:08] <aztun> anyone with the last version of firefox (kubuntu package) can open this web???
[02:08] <Celeste> that looks great
[02:08] <aztun> firefox closes when I open it: www.grc.upv.es
[02:08] <Celeste> menace_, yes it can be done
[02:08] <menace_> how!??
[02:08] <Celeste> menace_, moment pls
[02:08] <Celeste> aztun, I will try it
[02:08] <menace_> alrighty take your time
[02:09] <Celeste> aztun, Grupo de Investigacion de Redes de Computadores
[02:09] <aztun> thx Celeste
[02:09] <Celeste> aztun, maybe I wrote it wrong
[02:09] <aztun> yes
[02:09] <Celeste> I can see the site
[02:09] <aztun> ups
[02:09] <Celeste> the whole website
[02:09] <aztun> so I dont understand why firefox gets closed
[02:09] <Celeste> do I have to proof it by a screenshot or do you belive it?
[02:09] <aztun> segmentation fault
[02:09] <Celeste> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.7) Gecko/20060921 Ubuntu/dapper-security Firefox/1.5.0.7
[02:09] <aztun> when I go on that website
[02:10] <Celeste> running kubuntu 6.06.1
[02:10] <Celeste> Dapper drake
[02:10] <D4rkly> if i plug in a usb device and do lsusb and the device i just plugged in doesnt appear in the list is it broken or just not supported ?
[02:10] <Celeste> note the .1
[02:10] <aztun> same configuration for me Celeste
[02:10] <aztun> but get seg fault
[02:10] <Celeste> D4rkly, hold the line
[02:10] <Celeste> menace_, ...
[02:10] <aztun> :?
[02:10] <D4rkly> k
[02:10] <Celeste> no idea aztun
[02:10] <Celeste> menace_, so you problem was the taskbar
[02:10] <Celeste> rightclick the taskbar
[02:10] <Celeste> Configure Panel
[02:11] <Celeste> Appearance
[02:11] <Celeste> there you can choose a background image
[02:11] <Celeste> use gimp to create such a dark background image
[02:11] <Celeste> the startbutton ... dunno how, this is theme driven
[02:11] <menace_> what size?
[02:11] <Celeste> but the black background is simple
[02:12] <Celeste> the size your panel has
[02:12] <Celeste> you can choose the height
[02:12] <Celeste> ok, need to go I am sorry
[02:25] <D4rkly> if i plug in a usb device and do lsusb and the device i just plugged in doesnt appear in the list is it broken or just not supported ?
[02:28] <jpiccolo_> quake4 dont look good on my system, it wont use the right rez, anyone know how to fix it?/
[02:32] <iosy> in bash, what is the command line for calculating the interval between two dates? i mean, how do i operate with dates?
[02:40] <josesito> Hello! Does someone know if a SD-Card reader MP3 player named Q-CUBE II is compatible with linux?? please?
[02:41] <Hawkwind> josesito: I've never heard of it.  Have you contacted the manufacturer ?
[02:42] <josesito> LOL try looking for it in google ;)
[02:42] <Hawkwind> Try looking for what ?
[02:42] <josesito> Q-CUBE II
[02:42] <Hawkwind> Do you not know the manufacturer ?
[02:43] <josesito> there's almost NOTHING about it....it must be the most generic mp3 player i've found-....besides it costs 12 bucks!
[02:43] <Dr_willis> josesito,  boot up a live cd and try it,.
[02:43] <Hawkwind> josesito: q-cube happens to be the manufacturer
[02:44] <josesito> Dr_willis, i haven't even bought it yet!
[02:44] <josesito> Hawkwind, yep seems so
[02:44] <Dr_willis> $12 - no big loss.
[02:45] <Dr_willis> if it has a removeable sd card. then that should be using the vfat filesystem
[02:45] <iosy> in bash, what is the command line for calculating the interval between two dates? i mean, how do i operate with dates?
[02:45] <josesito> Dr_willis, i know it's not a big loss in your money, but it's a lot for me =)
[02:45] <josesito> anyway...i think i'll try
[02:46] <josesito> it
[02:46] <josesito> thanks anyway
[02:46] <Dr_willis> josesito,  repeate after me  "would you want fries with that sir?"
[02:46] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:46] <josesito> xD
[02:46] <Hawkwind> I would certainly think with it having a removable SD card it wouldn't be a problem to use it in Linux
[02:46] <josesito> i think so too
[02:46] <Dr_willis> The idea of a 12$ mp3 player - is sort of amazing
[02:46] <josesito> but my main concern is that the seller says it doesn't work on linux
[02:46] <Hawkwind> Dr_willis: Rather scary if you ask me :P
[02:47] <josesito> Dr_willis, google it, you can buy a lot of 1k in alibaba
[02:47] <Hawkwind> josesito: The player itself probably doesn't.  However, you can probably put the SD card in a card reader and it show up fine
[02:47] <josesito> (directly from china...or something like that)
[02:47] <josesito> ME STUPID!!!
[02:47] <josesito> i forgot i already have a card reader ;)
[02:47] <Jucato> a $12 mp3 player here would be a dream come true :)
[02:47] <josesito> so it'll probably work
[02:47] <Hawkwind> Well of course the card is not included
[02:48] <josesito> YES IT EXISTS!!!
[02:48] <josesito> i can ship some!
[02:48] <josesito> 15 bucks!
[02:48] <josesito> who wants fries with that??
[02:48] <Hawkwind> However, it handles up to 2GB cards which are fairly new and the largest on the market at the moment I think so I see no reason you would have issues with it
[02:48] <josesito> i hope not
[02:49] <josesito> i'll try it
[02:49] <josesito> =)
[02:49] <josesito> thanks and bye all!
[02:51] <Dr_willis> Hmmm....
[02:51] <Dr_willis> or x in  a b c ;do echo "move $x* $x "; done
[02:51] <Dr_willis> but i want to do it for a through z, and not type in a b c d e f g ...z ect.. :P
[02:51] <Dr_willis> theres some shortcut for that i am forgeting aint there?
[03:00] <Lexaeus> quick question, how do I change root's password?
[03:01] <Lexaeus> I fixed my earlier problem, I needed Option "MonitorLayout" "LVDS, None", so now I've got Kubuntu installed
[03:04] <SmrtJustin> My audacity keeps complaining that something is using my /dev/dsp (so does xmms using the OSS driver), how can I find out what is and kill it?
[03:04] <gnomefreak> how do i get amarok to show lyrics?
[03:06] <menace_> !kbfx
[03:06] <ubotu> kbfx is a replacement menu for KDE with enhanced features
[03:07] <menace_> i downloaded kbfx, but cant find it, does anyone know how to run it or whatever?
[03:07] <menace_> downloaded and installed
[03:07] <Dr_willis> neve rheard of it.. check the package manager for what it installed. and check the docs dir
[03:08] <Dr_willis> actually i think i did use a live cd the other day with it.
[03:08] <Dr_willis> check the 'add to panel' menus
[03:09] <menace_> thanks will, i found it and it looks great
[03:11] <Lexaeus> anyone? root password?
[03:11] <Lexaeus> lol...
[03:12] <LjL> !root
[03:12] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:12] <LjL> short answer: don't.
[03:13] <Lexaeus> how do I change my root password, I mean
[03:13] <LjL> that page explains it. note that there is *no* root password set at all by default.
[03:13] <Telroth_Plushie|> root is disabled
[03:13] <rkramden> if root has a password set, as root 'passwd'
[03:14] <Telroth_Plushie|> sudo <cmd> to run a command as root
[03:14] <Telroth_Plushie|> sudo -i if you're going to be using a lot of root cmds
[03:14] <Telroth_Plushie|> but root account doesn't need to be enabled
[03:14] <Telroth_Plushie|> ;)
[03:14] <Telroth_Plushie|> just a security risk.
[03:14] <gnomefreak> menace_: right click the kicker adn add it to the kicker
[03:15] <menace_> i did
[03:15] <menace_> im working on it, kbfx is awsome
[03:21] <soulrider> does anyone know the release date of edgy ?
[03:21] <crimsun> 26oct
[03:21] <soulrider> thanks
[03:22] <ulyssus> a lot of people ask for edgy-release o.o'
[03:22] <soulrider> im using edgy actually
[03:22] <NthDegree> edgy currently uber-sucks
[03:23] <soulrider> no it doesnt
[03:23] <NthDegree> too much memory leakage
[03:23] <soulrider> it works as good as dapper for me
[03:23] <ulyssus> where is the difference? i heard it works better on x64
[03:23] <soulrider> and much faster
[03:23] <NthDegree> ulyssus: i majorly disagree
[03:23] <soulrider> its works a LOT faster than dapper
[03:23] <NthDegree> :|
[03:23] <ulyssus> NthDegree: k ^^;
[03:23] <soulrider> NthDegree: i used to have terrible memory leak problems with azureus, and now it works fine
[03:24] <soulrider> what i dont like is the purple
[03:24] <NthDegree> it's probably only Kubuntu affected by leaks as usual
[03:24] <soulrider> the one in know 2 was a LOT better
[03:24] <NthDegree> soulrider: they are making it blue again gradually i think
[03:24] <soulrider> ah
[03:24] <NthDegree> or atleast it looks that way
[03:24] <soulrider> yea, the blue in dapper was awesome
[03:24] <NthDegree> rofl
[03:24] <NthDegree> the blue was almost standard KDE
[03:25] <soulrider> still, it looked great
[03:25] <soulrider> purple in knot 2 wqas great too
[03:25] <NthDegree> maybe they did purple to make the girls happy during early development :p
[03:25] <soulrider> but the one in knot 3 kinda sucks
[03:25] <NthDegree> I ignore the knots, upgrading is so much easier than reinstalling
[03:26] <soulrider> i didnt reinstall
[03:26] <soulrider> i just opened my sources list
[03:26] <soulrider> replaced all "dapper" for "edgy" and that was it
[03:27] <soulrider> upgrade went almost flawlessly
[03:27] <NthDegree> yeah same here
[03:27] <NthDegree> and boy did I regret it
[03:27] <soulrider> lol
[03:27] <ulyssus> lol
[03:27] <soulrider> i didnt
[03:27] <soulrider> at all
[03:28] <soulrider> seriously
[03:28] <soulrider> it works great!
[03:29] <soulrider> too abd they wont be shipping edgy CDs right away
[03:29] <NthDegree> for some reason Kubuntu runs suckily on my machine
[03:29] <ulyssus> they wont be shipping oO? Why?
[03:29] <NthDegree> even Windows was uberly quciker
[03:30] <soulrider> they will i think
[03:30] <NthDegree> ulyssus: they don't get shipped till stable release
[03:30] <soulrider> but not at first
[03:30] <ulyssus> ah, ok. but that's no surprise
[03:30] <soulrider> NthDegree: the newslatter didnt say that
[03:31] <NthDegree> look at the other releases
[03:31] <NthDegree> they all got ship it after a few weeks
[03:31] <soulrider> ahh ok
[03:31] <NthDegree> but they'll be shipping 2 releases now
[03:31] <soulrider> ive been using ti for 2 or 3 months
[03:31] <NthDegree> Dapper and Edgy
[03:31] <Hawkwind> soulrider: They don't ship until about 3 - 4 weeks after the stable release is made.  Sometimes a bit earlier, but they have to make the release, then get the CD's pressed, so it takes time
[03:32] <soulrider> ahh, allright
[03:32] <Hawkwind> NthDegree: They stop shipping Dapper when they start shipping Edgy
[03:32] <NthDegree> NOOOOOOOO
[03:32] <NthDegree> Dapper is LTS
[03:32] <NthDegree> they can't
[03:32] <soulrider> LTS?
[03:32] <NthDegree> Long Term Support
[03:32] <Hawkwind> Long Time Support
[03:32] <Hawkwind> NthDegree: It always happens.  Doubtful they will ship Dapper and Edgy at the same time
[03:32] <NthDegree> I think they will
[03:33] <NthDegree> since otherwise Ubuntu can't be an enterprise-quality linux
[03:33] <NthDegree> the LTS is like the Ubuntu equivalent to RHEL almost
[03:33] <NthDegree> as in full support for years
[03:34] <ulyssus> But isn't support of free CDs kinda unusual?
[03:34] <word> whats a good linux distro for server?
[03:34] <soulrider> is it "safe" to runt he kubuntu live CD ona machine with only 192 mb of RAM ?
[03:35] <NthDegree> lol
[03:35] <word> soulrider: you won't damage anything with the live cd
[03:35] <NthDegree> it is safe
[03:35] <NthDegree> but it might freeze due to lack of RAM
[03:35] <NthDegree> i'd use the alternate CD for it
[03:35] <soulrider> yea, thast what i meant
[03:35] <NthDegree> for installation use the alternate CD
[03:36] <soulrider> sade as in run
[03:36] <soulrider> well, im not planning to install it just yet
[03:36] <Hawkwind> word: Since you are asking in a Ubuntu related channel, we will certainly tell you the Ubuntu Server Edition
[03:36] <soulrider> i wanna test it on a laptop and make sure everything runs smoothly
[03:36] <soulrider> im planning to replace win for kubuntu there
[03:36] <soulrider> or maybe xubuntu
[03:36] <soulrider> but its my moms comp
[03:36] <Hawkwind> soulrider: It will run perfectly fine on a machine with 192MB of RAM.  No problems
[03:36] <soulrider> ah great
[03:37] <NthDegree> word, try OpenBSD for a server it's easier to maintain a secure server with than the average distro :p
[03:37] <Dr_willis> Trustix has a new edition out.
[03:37] <Hawkwind> Bahhhhh, I totally disagree
[03:37] <Dr_willis> but my serving needs are minimal
[03:37] <Hawkwind> word: Probably best to try several and see what *you* like best, not what others like
[03:37] <NthDegree> OBSD is very "minimal" :p
[03:38] <NthDegree> i'd actually be crazy enough to run Source Mage or Gentoo on a server lool
[03:39] <Hawkwind> Though that's totally offtopic for this channel
[03:39] <word> Hawkwind: well it's not for me..or anyone I even know a friend of my brothers so was just wondering if ubuntu server addition was feasable
[03:39] <Dr_willis> Someone mentioned a server focused disrto the other day  - but i forgot the name/url.. and cant find it now.. so i guess its not real popular. :P
[03:40] <Dr_willis> I dont see why ubuntu wouldent make an ok server. :P but it depends on yoru serving needs I guess
[03:40] <Hawkwind> Dr_willis: Most popular server based is probably CentOS
[03:40] <NthDegree> yikes
[03:40] <Hawkwind> Any distro makes a good server, if you know what you're doing
[03:40] <NthDegree> CentOS is good for a desktop
[03:40] <NthDegree> server though :|
[03:40] <Dr_willis> Hawkwind,  yea - this was some oddball named one tht id never heard of it was focused on just being a fileserver I think.
[03:42] <Kr4t05> !flash
[03:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:42] <Kr4t05> Stupid YouTube... ><
[03:43] <soulrider> lol
[03:44] <AWOSDev> I need help with Apache.
[03:44] <AWOSDev> When I try and connect, I get a timeout error.
[03:44] <AWOSDev> It is listening on port 80 and I do not have a firewall on my internal NIC which is where I want to access it from
[03:45] <AWOSDev> I have also tried 127.0.0.1 to no avail
[03:45] <AWOSDev> I read the Apache FAQ and documentation, and tried the #apache channel
[03:45] <AWOSDev> but none of that helped
[03:45] <AWOSDev> Can anybody help me?
[03:47] <NthDegree> hmmmm] 
[03:47] <NthDegree> what network is it listening on?
[03:48] <NthDegree> if it's listening on your local network try 192.168.0.2 or the like
[03:48] <AWOSDev> It's listening on all interfaces
[03:48] <NthDegree> try the internal IP of your machine
[03:48] <AWOSDev> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:80              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[03:49] <AWOSDev> I tried 127.0.0.1 and my internal (and external firewalled for throughness)
[03:49] <AWOSDev> and they *all* timed out
[03:49] <NthDegree> iunno then
[03:49] <NthDegree> disconnect from the interweb and turn off the firewall
[03:49] <NthDegree> see if it helps
[03:50] <AWOSDev> I'm kind of, uh, sharing this connection
[03:50] <AWOSDev> Can't readily disconnect like that :P
[03:50] <NthDegree> oh lol
[03:50] <Hawkwind> You shouldn't have to anyways
[03:50] <AWOSDev> but I'll temporarily disable the firewall
[03:50] <AWOSDev> for like 5 seconds
[03:50] <Hawkwind> AWOSDev: Have you tried http://localhost  ?
[03:51] <AWOSDev> I already tried 127.0.0.1
[03:51] <AWOSDev> but I just tried that and still timeout
[03:51] <AWOSDev> oh wait
[03:51] <Hawkwind> Is apache even running ?
[03:51] <AWOSDev> I use iptables
[03:51] <AWOSDev> so I can't disable the firewall
[03:51] <AWOSDev> that'll disable sharing too :)
[03:51] <AWOSDev> Yes apache is running
[03:52] <Hawkwind> Definitely sounds like a firewall/iptables issue then
[03:52] <Hawkwind> Are you sure port 80 is open and forwarded to the machine you have apache running on ?
[03:52] <AWOSDev> I force-reloaded just now
[03:52] <AWOSDev> still timeout
[03:52] <AWOSDev> Forwarded?
[03:52] <AWOSDev> it's on the gateway
[03:53] <AWOSDev> no forwarding necessary
[03:53] <Hawkwind> If it's timing out, then it's a firewall issue
[03:55] <AWOSDev> Okay I did
[03:55] <AWOSDev> sudo iptables -F
[03:55] <AWOSDev> that disables the firewall right?
[03:55] <AWOSDev> Well for some reason that took me (the primary computer) down too
[03:56] <AWOSDev> I couldn't even Google until I put the firewall rules back in.
[03:56] <AWOSDev> But it still timed out on 127.0.0.1
[03:56] <AWOSDev> (Google came up unknown host)
[03:56] <AWOSDev> so what now?
[03:56] <AWOSDev> I can however:
[03:57] <AWOSDev> * PING myself from laptop  * SSH to myself from laptop  * Connect to FTP from other desktop
[03:57] <AWOSDev> so it can't be the firewall
[03:57] <AWOSDev> because I can do all those things
[03:57] <AWOSDev> Hawkwind, you still there?
[03:58] <AWOSDev> !test
[03:58] <ubotu> Failed.
[03:58] <Hawkwind> AWOSDev: I am.  I know just the basics to apache so the best I can tell you is to wait for the guys in #Apache to help
[03:59] <AWOSDev> Okay
[03:59] <AWOSDev> well
[03:59] <AWOSDev> I already tried that
[03:59] <AWOSDev> he's stumped
[04:00] <AWOSDev> So no one in #Apache can help me and no one in here can help me
[04:00] <AWOSDev> :-(
[04:00] <AWOSDev> You'd think that with ~250 nicks in each channel *somebody* out of those 500 people could help me
[04:01] <Hawkwind> It's obvious that port 80 isn't open or isn't forwarded.  So until you solve that, then you're out of luck basically
[04:02] <AWOSDev> forwarded?  huh?
[04:02] <AWOSDev> It's on the main machine
[04:02] <AWOSDev> it's not on a NAT machine
[04:03] <AWOSDev> I can't even connect to localhost though
[04:04] <clojster> hey... anyone know some application for automatic searching and connecting to wireless networks in console?
[04:04] <AWOSDev> clojster, iwconfig
[04:05] <Hawkwind> Exactly.  So that tells you that port 80 isn't open or forwarded appropriately
[04:05] <AWOSDev> I don't understand what you mean by forwarded.
[04:05] <clojster> but how do I find the network? Let's say i dont know the ESSID
[04:05] <AWOSDev> I don't remember
[04:05] <Hawkwind> AWOSDev: Forget about forwarding since you've made it clear it's on the same box.  Port 80 is *not* open somehow or is blocked.  That's what you need to worry about
[04:05] <AWOSDev> but it's possible
[04:06] <Hawkwind> !apache
[04:06] <ubotu> offically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)
[04:06] <clojster> AWOSDev: don't think so... I've read the man
[04:06] <AWOSDev> clojster, it's something to do with your card supporting it
[04:07] <AWOSDev> I don't know maybe I'm remembering wrong
[04:07] <clojster> AWOSDev: yep... you remember it wrong
[04:07] <AWOSDev> I have the freaky bcm43xx hack anyway
[04:07] <AWOSDev> It wouldn't apply to you :)
[04:07] <clojster> AWOSDev: hmm
[04:11] <clojster> i need some wifi scanner for console
[04:12] <lupine_85> iwlist
[04:12] <lupine_85> e.g. iwlist <interface> scan
[04:12] <AWOSDev> That's it!
[04:13] <AWOSDev> That's what I used!
[04:13] <lupine_85> really! ;)
[04:15] <Philip5>  i'm having a strange install problem with php and apache2 on ubuntu... i have apt-get and installed them both and also used a2enmod to enable php5 module (also installed with apt) but when i click on a php page on my server it wants to be downloaded
[04:15] <clojster> AWOSDev: yep. and what if the neteork is WEP protected?
[04:16] <Philip5> apache say that he have loaded the php5 module when i restart it. and the mimetype is also set
[04:17] <AWOSDev> Philip5, have you looked at the Wiki yet?
[04:17] <AWOSDev> !lamp
[04:17] <ubotu> offically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)
[04:18] <AWOSDev> Hawkwind
[04:18] <AWOSDev> I figured it out partially
[04:19] <AWOSDev> when I did the flush of iptables
[04:19] <AWOSDev> it was still set to DROP all
[04:19] <AWOSDev> :)
[04:19] <AWOSDev> so when I changed it to ACCEPT it worked
[04:19] <AWOSDev> but now I'm vulnerable
[04:19] <AWOSDev> I only want it on my internal NIC
[04:19] <AWOSDev> not being broadcast to the whole Internet...
[04:21] <pchamorro> join #ubuntu
[04:21] <pchamorro> JOIN #ubuntu
[04:21] <Admiral_Chicago> pchamorro, that's not neccessary
[04:22] <Ash-Fox> !firefox
[04:22] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[04:22] <pchamorro> thanks, this afternoon I joined to #ubuntu channel too but I don't remeber how
[04:22] <AWOSDev> put a / before join
[04:22] <AWOSDev>    /join #ubuntu
[04:22] <Admiral_Chicago>  /join #ubuntu
[04:23] <Admiral_Chicago> but no spaces
[04:23] <AWOSDev> Actually you need a space between "join" and "#ubuntu"
[04:23] <root___> Hello?
[04:23] <AWOSDev> Hello
[04:24] <root___> I need help, if someone might be so kind.
[04:24] <AWOSDev> What do you need help with?
[04:24] <root___> Well... it's kinda complicated but I'll try best to explian.
[04:24] <NthDegree> you're logged in as root so it must be bad :|
[04:24] <root___> I was trying to install the appropiate kernel for my ubuntu system and I lost my Gui.
[04:25] <root___> I am currently stuck in the command line thing.
[04:25] <AWOSDev> root___ well
[04:25] <AWOSDev> type
[04:25] <AWOSDev> startx
[04:25] <root___> here?
[04:25] <NthDegree> try dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[04:25] <AWOSDev> root___ no on the command line
[04:25] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:26] <root___> ok, was just making sure.
[04:26] <Admiral_Chicago> that will fix x server
[04:26] <NthDegree> root___: listen to Admiral_Chicago he just corrected what I was saying lol
[04:26] <Admiral_Chicago> NthDegree, actualyly you were rigdht
[04:26] <Admiral_Chicago> he was root
[04:27] <NthDegree> lol
[04:27] <root___> While I am here, would it be to much to ask for a little more help?
[04:27] <Admiral_Chicago> sure
[04:27] <root___> First off, how do I change my user name here?
[04:27] <NthDegree>  /nick name
[04:27] <Admiral_Chicago>  /nick something
[04:27] <Admiral_Chicago> no space though
[04:27] <NthDegree> put /nick and the name you wanna be
[04:28] <NthDegree> lol
[04:28] <KAC> Somebody has my name already...
[04:28] <NthDegree> bleh, register a good one with NickServ
[04:28] <KAC> Anyway. Alright, on to the harder things.
[04:29] <NthDegree> 69ms lag lol
[04:29] <KAC> I have a ubuntu dapper system already. I want to change it over to full Kubuntu. I haven't been able to figure it out using synaptic, Apt-get or Aptitude.
[04:29] <AWOSDev> sudo apt-get install kubuntu
[04:29] <NthDegree> KAC easy
[04:30] <AWOSDev> sudo apt-get remove libgnome0
[04:30] <KAC> indeed?
[04:30] <AWOSDev> That's how I did it
[04:30] <AWOSDev> :)
[04:30] <NthDegree> KAC try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:30] <AWOSDev> Oh shoot yes -desktop
[04:30] <AWOSDev> forgot that part :)
[04:30] <NthDegree> then follow AWOSDev's tip for removing the old GNOME
[04:31] <KAC> hmmm... don't know how to scroll up. Could someone repeat the dpkg command that was given not to long ago?
[04:31] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[04:31] <Admiral_Chicago> shift + page up
[04:31] <AWOSDev> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:33] <KAC> I quiet enjoy the linux system so far. If I had done even a quarter of the things I've done in learning to use the Linux system on a windows system I would be rather unfortunately stuck at this moment.
[04:34] <AWOSDev> KAC, yep
[04:34] <AWOSDev> really the only way to screw up Linux is rm -rf /
[04:34] <AWOSDev> which basically reformats the hard disk :)
[04:34] <Admiral_Chicago> KAC, its got a leaning curve but its good to learn how an OS actually works
[04:34] <AWOSDev> No if you want to learn how an OS actually works go to #OSDev :P
[04:34] <KAC> question, how would I sign into a registered name? Cause I think that I registered my other nickname already.
[04:35] <AWOSDev> KAC, just type /nick youroldname
[04:35] <AWOSDev> then type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY yourpassword
[04:35] <kyle__> l
[04:35] <KAC> Wouldn't it require a password of some sort?
[04:35] <KAC> ah ok
[04:36] <AWOSDev> What do you mean NthDegree?
[04:36] <KAC> hmmm... it simply states that the nick name is already in use.
[04:37] <NthDegree> I joke too much
[04:37] <NthDegree> KAC try /msg NickServ RECOVER yournickname yourpassword
[04:37] <NthDegree> then afterwards /msg NickServ RELEASE yournickname yourpassword
[04:37] <ian_> gah, why must kde punish me?!?!
[04:37] <NthDegree> then /nick yournickname
[04:37] <ian_> sorry, thats not a legitimate question, just some general frustration about kmail
[04:37] <NthDegree> then /msg NickServ IDENTIFY yourpassword
[04:38] <AWOSDev> Boy IRC is a lot harder than it was a few years ago :)
[04:38] <ian_> anyone know what to do when kmail refuses to connect? it just says something about cannot connect
[04:38] <ian_> but the server is fine, works from my mac
[04:38] <AWOSDev> ian_, can your Konqueror browser?
[04:38] <KAC> well I am off to see if I can escape my console made prison.
[04:38] <AWOSDev> ***browse
[04:39] <AWOSDev> Okay KAC
[04:39] <AWOSDev> :)
[04:39] <Admiral_Chicago> might be the port...
[04:39] <KAC> that is if I can figure out how to get out of here first. XD
[04:39] <AWOSDev> KAC, try /quit
[04:39] <AWOSDev> oh he got it :)
[04:39] <ian_> AWOSDev: yeah, it all works, I can ssh to the mail server, I port scanned it because I was messing with the firewall and all the ports are still working
[04:39] <AWOSDev> hmm
[04:39] <pch> test
[04:39] <AWOSDev> maybe they disable you because you portscanned them :P
[04:40] <ian_> its imaps, works from my mac, but if the connection gets killed for any reason, kmail can't figure out how to reconnect
[04:40] <AWOSDev> *disabled
[04:40] <ian_> awosdev: its my server
[04:41] <ian_> thats my one frustration with linux, all the kde apps have tons of unmaintained buggy features, and gnome keeps taking out buttons until I can't actually do anything
[04:41] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:42] <Dr_willis> that describes gnome all right
[04:42] <Dr_willis> But KDE's add-printer interface is.... welll.. needs work. :P
[04:42] <ian_> yeah, you can't preview your screensaver anymore, even the uber-noob-friendly os x decied that was an ok feature
[04:42] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis, it is brand new...
[04:42] <ian_> gnome: we don't have a button for that, its too complicated
[04:42] <Admiral_Chicago> it just got instated in dapper
[04:42] <Dr_willis> gnomes add-printer stuff. works    but still i perfer the cups web interface..which the ubuntu guys decided to cripple.
[04:42] <ian_> kde: don't click that button, it always crashes the app for some reason
[04:43] <Dr_willis> Admiral_Chicago,  yea. but when it sizes itself so that the 'administrator mode' button is hidden off the bottom of the screen... that is really - amusing. :P
[04:43] <AWOSDev> ian_, Have you driven at Console lately?  :P
[04:43] <AWOSDev> ***a Console
[04:43] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis, i don't like that older monitors do that
[04:44] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis, thats more of a drawing problem that anything
[04:44] <Dr_willis> Admiral_Chicago,  this wasent a monitr issue.. the program itself was to blame.
[04:44] <Dr_willis> let me see if it does it again
[04:44] <AWOSDev> I don't like what Kubuntu has done to Kcontrol with the freaky 'system settings' thing
[04:44] <AWOSDev> I still can't find Screen Saver in it
[04:45] <Dr_willis> first time i ran it - it wasent viewable at the bottom. now that i ran it and resized it - it corrected itself it seems
[04:45] <Admiral_Chicago> Admiral_Chicago, i take back the monitor thing
[04:45] <Admiral_Chicago> i was just babbling
[04:45] <Dr_willis> i wish there was a  'set up as default kde' option
[04:46] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis, suggest that
[04:47] <KickAssClown> Well I'm back
[04:48] <KickAssClown> I did the reconfig, but the system still hangs when it goes to start the Gui.
[04:49] <software_> ayuda en espaol
[04:49] <AWOSDev> !es
[04:49] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:49] <KickAssClown> Anyone have any ideas?
[04:50] <AWOSDev> yeah, use the Console :)
[04:50] <KickAssClown> I tried installing the linux image 2.6.15-27-k7
[04:50] <KickAssClown> Which is what I am running currently. By default I had linux image 2.6.12-8-i386
[04:51] <KickAssClown> it all started when I changed over my kernel.
[04:52] <KickAssClown> My computer runs a AMD 900mhz processor and a Geforce 4 mmx 64MB graphics card.
[04:53] <KickAssClown> I've installed the Kubuntu-desktop and all affiliated packages and removed the Gnome desktop and all it's affilated packages.
[04:54] <KickAssClown> this is frustrating.
[04:55] <KickAssClown> Question: Is there a AMD distribution for Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[04:56] <AWOSDev> KAC, yes
[04:56] <AWOSDev> !k7
[04:56] <Admiral_Chicago> KickAssClown, not unless you use 64 bit
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about k7 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <AWOSDev> !amd
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <Admiral_Chicago> or actually ignore me
[04:56] <bimberi> !info linux-k7
[04:56] <ubotu> linux-k7: Complete Linux kernel on AMD K7.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.25 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[04:56] <Admiral_Chicago> yes you probably have k7
[04:57] <Dr_willis> Moo!
[04:57] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:57] <KickAssClown> that would be the package I installed... do I need the I386 packages also?
[04:57] <AWOSDev> no
[04:57] <Dr_willis> Thats one of the things i liked bout Gentoo  - they used the "Vanilla KDE" :)
[04:57] <KickAssClown> ok cause I removed them.
[04:58] <KickAssClown> I thought it might help to change my repositories to point to a non-i686.deb distro, but I couldn't find any info on it so... here I am.
[04:58] <KickAssClown> Oh and if no one noticed I am rather new to Linux.
[04:59] <AWOSDev> i686 = Pentium Pro/K6 and above
[04:59] <shawnyboy> Hey everyone!!
[04:59] <KickAssClown> I've been using Windows for near 10 years now.
[04:59] <KickAssClown> I quit this past august.
[04:59] <AWOSDev> well good for you!
[04:59] <shawnyboy> kubuntu worked fine all day, except now i turn it on and i cant login to kde its an endless loop!
[04:59] <AWOSDev> I quit in 2002
[04:59] <AWOSDev> shawnyboy, what error?
[05:00] <KickAssClown> Maybe he's having a similar issue as I am.
[05:00] <shawnyboy> it gives no error, just a garbled screen for a sec, a black screen for a sec, and then back to the login menu
[05:00] <KickAssClown> console login?
[05:00] <shawnyboy> no gui
[05:00] <shawnyboy> i can login to the console tho
[05:00] <shawnyboy> ctrl alt f1 or f2 or w/e
[05:01] <KickAssClown> oh... I can't even get to the gui.
[05:01] <shawnyboy> it has worked flawlessly all this time, but now it wont login
[05:01] <KickAssClown> Question: Would it be wise to tear down and rebuild?
[05:01] <AWOSDev> KAC, for what purpose!?
[05:01] <KickAssClown> Hopefully to undo whatever it is that i have done to my system.
[05:02] <shawnyboy> whats the X driver i can use besides the ati one?
[05:02] <AWOSDev> um
[05:02] <KickAssClown> Bring it down to bare-minimum and then essentially re-install my os from the console.
[05:02] <AWOSDev> KAC, gee that's painful
[05:02] <lnxkde> someone using edgy kde compiz and aiglx on Ati?
[05:02] <AWOSDev> just reinstall without a teardown
[05:02] <shawnyboy> vesa?
[05:03] <KickAssClown> I know but I have been messing with this for almost 10 hours now.
[05:03] <KickAssClown> Like I said, Frustrating.
[05:03] <NthDegree> KickAssClown: did you make a separate /home partition?
[05:03] <shawnyboy> no THIS is frustrating lol
[05:04] <Admiral_Chicago> shawnyboy, yes vesa is OS verison
[05:04] <AWOSDev> shawnyboy try vga
[05:04] <NthDegree> shawnyboy: vesa will work
[05:04] <KickAssClown> Ummm... maybe, I can't honestly say. It was shear luck that I thought of using the console based web browser and found this place.
[05:04] <coreymon77> yay!
[05:04] <shawnyboy> im trying vesa in xorg.conf just to see if the video driver has gotten screwed
[05:04] <coreymon77> i just made another comvert
[05:04] <coreymon77> convert
[05:05] <NthDegree> KickAssClown: reinstall
[05:05] <KickAssClown> Hey shawnyboy, you stuck out in console also?
[05:05] <shawnyboy> nope, vesa driver does it too
[05:05] <shawnyboy> no i get the login gui, but its looping
[05:05] <shawnyboy> ati driver AND vesa driver does the same thing.
[05:05] <KickAssClown> Alright, so what will I want to re-install?
[05:06] <shawnyboy> i wonder if this has anything to do with how i had to manually power off the laptop since when i hit shutdown i got a black screen and it sat there. sometimes it does that sometimes it doesn.
[05:07] <KickAssClown> At this point I have installed the k7 kernel, uninstalled the I386 kernel, uninstalled and re-installed the KDE, uninstalled the GDE, Upgraded... and some otherthings that i can't particularly remember at the moment.
[05:08] <KickAssClown> oh and installed the entire kubuntu-desktop.
[05:08] <AWOSDev> GDE that's funny
[05:08] <AWOSDev> it's GNOME not GDE :)
[05:08] <KickAssClown> same difference.
[05:09] <shawnyboy> lol
[05:09] <KickAssClown> it's gdm and kdm... :D
[05:10] <KickAssClown> is there a perscribed method of re-installing one's distribution?
[05:10] <shawnyboy> hmm, kdm.log doesnt show much
[05:10] <shawnyboy> dmesg either
[05:10] <shawnyboy> dang this is just weird
[05:11] <Dr_willis> Wee Got my C64 emulator going. :P
[05:11] <Dr_willis> now to find the Geos Disks
[05:11] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:11] <shawnyboy> whats a c64?
[05:11] <Dr_willis> We need a GEOS window manager/DE Clone
[05:11] <KickAssClown> commodore
[05:11] <shawnyboy> ah
[05:11] <KickAssClown> ?*commadore?
[05:11] <KickAssClown> something like that.
[05:11] <shawnyboy> yaya
[05:11] <KickAssClown> old style stuff.
[05:12] <KickAssClown> Thanks for your help, people.
[05:12] <Dr_willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_64
[05:12] <AWOSDev> What about the C64?
[05:12] <Hawkwind> I have 2 C64's sitting here next to me.  One is hooked up, one isn't :)
[05:12] <Dr_willis> At one point in time Geos was the #3 os - right behind dos.. accordin to the wiki pages,.
[05:12] <flaccid_> i used to use GEOS on C64
[05:12] <Dr_willis> :P
[05:12] <Dr_willis> I got several in the garrage
[05:12] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:13] <Dr_willis> We got a Dev team then!
[05:13] <Dr_willis> lets get cracking on a Geos KDE theme!
[05:13] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:13] <AWOSDev> I'll do it
[05:13] <flaccid_> nice
[05:13] <AWOSDev> I have GEOS
[05:13] <tobias> im drunk
[05:14] <AWOSDev> What's going on with the bot?
[05:14] <tobias> its probably drunk too
[05:15] <Dr_willis> I have some GEOS software still in its shrink wrapped packageing.
[05:15] <AWOSDev> "Although 64 kB of DRAM cost over US $100 at the time"
[05:16] <AWOSDev> geez
[05:16] <Dr_willis> Where ya live at AWOSDev ? :) ill ship it to ya
[05:16] <Dr_willis> if its close.. lol
[05:16] <AWOSDev> my GEOS is broke
[05:16] <Dr_willis> I found a C64 at a rummage sale for $2 still wrapped up
[05:16] <AWOSDev> I tried to get it running on my 586/100 but it whined about the graphics card
[05:16] <Dr_willis> http://cmdrkey.com/cbm/geos/geos-13.html     Download Geos.
[05:16] <AWOSDev> yes I did that to see if that was the problem
[05:16] <AWOSDev> still no dice
[05:17] <shawnyboy> anyone know how to fix the kde loop?
[05:17] <AWOSDev> you could ship me your C64 though, I wouldn't mind that :)
[05:17] <AWOSDev> I live in the United States
[05:17] <Dr_willis> Im in Indiana
[05:18] <Dr_willis> North of Inianpolis (in kokomo)
[05:18] <Dr_willis> How many ya want/need. :P
[05:18] <AWOSDev> I'm in Florida
[05:18] <shawnyboy> kokomo :D
[05:18] <AWOSDev> near kokomo :P
[05:18] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Sister lives in Florida
[05:18] <AWOSDev> nah just kidding
[05:18] <sessito> hi
[05:18] <AWOSDev> north of Miami
[05:18] <AWOSDev> well north of Miami
[05:18] <Dr_willis> way down south eh..
[05:19] <AWOSDev> I don't have the room in the house for another computer
[05:19] <AWOSDev> I already have 14 :)
[05:19] <Dr_willis> Lol
[05:19] <Dr_willis> Mine are in the garrage
[05:19] <Dr_willis> Id like to take the macSE and an EPIA motherboard and make a micro pc.
[05:19] <AWOSDev> Ooh
[05:19] <Dr_willis> but i cant find a little lcd for it cheap.
[05:20] <AWOSDev> do you have an Apple II?
[05:20] <Dr_willis> plus its somthing i dont really need.
[05:20] <Dr_willis> I got an Apple 2C - the semi-portable one with the folding handel
[05:20] <Dr_willis> I thatink thats what its called.
[05:20] <Dr_willis> had the funny dorvak keyboard button on the case.
[05:21] <Dr_willis> I gave away the Ti-9???'s i had.
[05:21] <AWOSDev> what's something you don't need?
[05:21] <tobias> how do i see this online channel nrk.no "http://www1.nrk.no/nett-tv/klipp/191683" in ubuntu? it says it needs an unknown plugin in firefox :\
[05:21] <AWOSDev> I certainly don't need anymore computers?
[05:21] <Dr_willis> i dont need any of these. :P
[05:21] <Dr_willis> trying to clean out the garrage
[05:21] <AWOSDev> I only really use 5 or 6 of the 14 I have :P
[05:21] <AWOSDev> gonna give one away to a friend to start her with Linux
[05:21] <Dr_willis> THe Ham Radio guys dont even need C64s any more.. a few still use them
[05:21] <Dr_willis> but not many
[05:22] <AWOSDev> recycle old computers as b-day presents!  yay me!
[05:22] <AWOSDev> If you are seriously gonna send it to me free
[05:22] <AWOSDev> I'll think about it
[05:22] <AWOSDev> thing is, I'm trying to clean out the house
[05:22] <AWOSDev> getting another computer would be ridiculous :)
[05:23] <shawnyboy> i am unable to login to kde, its looping with no error messages
[05:23] <tobias> what is mplayer plugin?
[05:23] <tobias> does it excist in ubuntu?
[05:23] <shawnyboy> i think so
[05:23] <shawnyboy> it lets you play content in web browser through mplayer
[05:24] <tobias> adept will save me :D
[05:24] <tobias> thanx
[05:24] <tobias> i love ubuntu
[05:24] <Dr_willis> Yep thats what sucks AWOSDev  - well they will sit on their shelfs for another 10 years..
[05:24] <Dr_willis> :P
[05:24] <Hawkwind> tobias: mozilla-mplayer
[05:24] <tobias> aha
[05:24] <tobias> i need to get that package?
[05:24] <AWOSDev> Dr_willis :)
[05:25] <Dr_willis> I keep wanting to get one of those pci cards that canread/write the old drive/disk formats
[05:25] <AWOSDev> well in ten years I'll be sure to ask you for it :)
[05:25] <Dr_willis> we shoudl make a Geos Kde theme however. :P
[05:25] <AWOSDev> As of 2006, C64 enthusiasts still develop new hardware, including Ethernet cards, specially adapted hard disks and Flash Card interfaces.
[05:25] <AWOSDev> wow
[05:26] <Dr_willis> fun to run Geos on the VICE emulator,  at turbo speed
[05:26] <tobias> getting it :D
[05:26] <Dr_willis> I got one of those C64s in a Joystick :)
[05:26] <tobias> hawkwind: thanx m8e
[05:26] <Dr_willis> C64 + Geos in a joystick thing = cheaper then that One Laptop Per child thing.
[05:26] <Dr_willis> Lol
[05:27] <AWOSDev> Dr_willis true
[05:27] <AWOSDev> just give all the kids C64s to play with :)
[05:27] <flaccid_> i want one
[05:27] <flaccid_> actually i have an amiga
[05:27] <flaccid_> but yeah
[05:28] <Dr_willis> I got several amigas
[05:28] <Dr_willis> :P
[05:28] <Dr_willis> as well
[05:28] <flaccid_> lucky youu
[05:28] <flaccid_> i have an old typwriter
[05:28] <Dr_willis> I used to IRC on a Green-bar printing Terminal
[05:28] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:29] <flaccid_> nice
[05:29] <flaccid_> that smasd
[05:29] <flaccid_> mad
[05:30] <tobias> how do i find out how much free space is left on my hd?
[05:30] <flaccid_> for CLI, its df -h
[05:30] <tobias> thanx :)
[05:31] <Dr_willis> Heh - VICE (c64 emulator in warp mode  - running at 4600%)
[05:31] <flaccid_> otherwise right click on the drive in konqueror
[05:31] <flaccid_> npz
[05:31] <flaccid_> hectic
[05:31] <tobias> if a video stream is going slow, how do i make the swap file for the mplayer bigger?
[05:31] <tobias> the video stream is really like.. choppy
[05:31] <shawnyboy> make sure if you are playing from the hd you have dma turned on
[05:32] <tobias> dma?
[05:32] <shawnyboy> yes
[05:32] <shawnyboy> i would help you more but i have to figure out my own problems
[05:34] <tobias> ok :)
[05:34] <tobias> hehe
[05:34] <tobias> I will find out
[05:34] <tobias> thanx
[05:36] <Dr_willis> Hmm..  the GEOS disk images aint working in vice! grr!
[05:36] <AWOSDev> Okay okay back to semi-on-topic matter
[05:36] <AWOSDev> s
[05:36] <AWOSDev> what's the best way to block every port *except* 80
[05:36] <AWOSDev> and then do NAT
[05:36] <AWOSDev> with iptables
[05:37] <AWOSDev> without using a GUI
[05:37] <shawnyboy> will someone please help me?
[05:37] <Dr_willis> There it goes
[05:37] <AWOSDev> what, being semi-ontopic?
[05:38] <tobias> which partition is my swap partition?
[05:39] <tobias> wow
[05:40] <tobias> there was this line under my konversation program sayin the adress to a frequently asked questions page, right when i asked my question :)
[05:40] <tobias> that was nice
[05:40] <tobias> my computer is gaining sentience slowly
[05:42] <fildo> hey how can i check opengl
[05:42] <fildo> is operational
[05:43] <nick_> run a gl screensaver?
[05:43] <AWOSDev> glxdemo
[05:43] <fildo> im trying to play nexiuz , but when i open game, i get a black screen, with a mouse still active over the top
[05:43] <AWOSDev> fildo, type glxdemo in Konsole
[05:44] <verbose> where is DISPLAY set at boot?
[05:44] <fildo> yeh brang up some screen
[05:44] <Dr_willis> DISPLAY is set when X starts up.
[05:44] <fildo> that i can resize n redraw
[05:44] <verbose> Dr_willis: in which file?
[05:44] <Dr_willis> its normally like ':0'
[05:44] <Dr_willis> its not set by a file
[05:44] <Dr_willis> X determines its value
[05:44] <Dr_willis> or an env variable
[05:45] <Dr_willis> if you run several X sessions your display will  go up by 1 for each one.
[05:45] <verbose> Dr_willis: so if i put export DISPLAY="blah:0" in my ~/.bashrc it should work?
[05:45] <verbose> i don't need it set for kdm or anything?
[05:45] <Dr_willis> echo $DISPLAY
[05:45] <Dr_willis> :0.0
[05:45] <Dr_willis> thats short for '127.0.0.1:0.0'
[05:45] <Dr_willis> verbose,  i doubt if exporting it that way will fix much..
[05:45] <Dr_willis> why not state the problem...
[05:48] <pfein_> my laptop 'hangs' on resuming from suspend/hibernate... not sure if it's actually hung, but the screen stays off & the keyboard doesn't do anything..I don't have a capslock light, fwiw ;)
[05:48] <Dr_willis> pfein_,  ati video cards?
[05:49] <pfein_> Dr_willis: yup, M6
[05:49] <verbose> Dr_willis: i'm using xmove between two hosts, and it doesn't want to work when the X sessions(by way of DISPLAY) have no names
[05:49] <verbose> so i want to set DISPLAY on host a to something like a:0 and b:0 on host b
[05:49] <Dr_willis> pfein_,  ive heard theres some  bugs with the ati drivers and suspend.. sadly
[05:49] <Dr_willis> verbose,  cant say that ive ever messed with xmove
[05:50] <Dr_willis> display should be the ip# of the machine and :0.0
[05:50] <pfein_> hmm, I was thinking I just needed to whack it with vbetool on resume...
[05:50] <verbose> Dr_willis: i've never seen it as an ip
[05:50] <verbose> only as names
[05:50] <verbose> but whatever
[05:50] <Dr_willis> but ssh - sort of works without needing to set the display :)
[05:50] <Dr_willis> verbose,  the names get looked up to their ip#'s
[05:50] <verbose> Dr_willis: yes, but ssh doesn't do what xmove does
[05:50] <Dr_willis> in the hosts file normally.
[05:51] <verbose> right
[05:51] <tobias> I searched for dma changing and ubuntu and on one of the pages it said that dma could be very bad for the hd if used in the wrong way!
[05:51] <verbose> but DISPLAY isn't technically a resolvable name
[05:51] <verbose> it logically should be the same as the hostname
[05:51] <verbose> but isn't a requirement
[05:51] <Dr_willis> when its just :0.0 - its shortcut for 127.0.0.1 i though. not actually the hostname
[05:51] <verbose> tobias: yeah
[05:52] <Dr_willis> well for 'localhost' i guess. :P
[05:52] <verbose> err, not tobias
[05:52] <tobias> :)
[05:52] <verbose> Dr_willis: yeah
[05:52] <verbose> it's localhost
[05:52] <verbose> but that doesn't help when you want to connect to a remote X session
[05:52] <tobias> is dma dangerous?
[05:52] <verbose> i'm just gonna mess around with it
[05:52] <verbose> tobias: no
[05:52] <tobias> ok
[05:52] <tobias> thanx
[05:52] <verbose> tobias: np
[05:52] <LeeJunFan> tobias: if you don't enable DMA you are only going to get about 1/2 the speed out of your HD.
[05:53] <AWOSDev> Gee can I really make it go faster?
[05:53] <AWOSDev> How do I enable DMA?
[05:53] <pfein_> tobias: it's usually on by default: sudo hdparm -I /dev/hda |grep dma
[05:53] <tobias> leejunfan; how do I enable!?
[05:53] <LeeJunFan> AWOSDev: it probably already is.
[05:53] <Dr_willis> verbose,  i just ssh in and export the variable
[05:53] <verbose> Dr_willis: yeah
[05:53] <LeeJunFan> run sudo hdparm /dev/hda it will list the current settings.
[05:53] <Dr_willis> problem with putting it in a .bashrc is that it may get set when it shouldent be set
[05:53] <tobias> DMA: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
[05:53] <verbose> Dr_willis: i'm familiar with x forwarding
[05:54] <verbose> xmove is different though
[05:54] <tim> hi, I am trying to install EasyUbuntu but I can't find it on repositories...
[05:54] <tobias> 5 is good right?
[05:54] <tobias> udma5 I mean
[05:54] <verbose> Dr_willis: which is exactly why i'm trying to figure out where DISPLAY gets set
[05:54] <AWOSDev> Yep both /dev/hda and /dev/hdb are "using_dma" :)
[05:54] <Dr_willis> it may be better in the .bash_profile - to check for it.
[05:54] <tobias> cool:)
[05:54] <LeeJunFan> tobias: yeah, that's what you want.
[05:54] <Dr_willis> i would guess its getting set by the 'startx' script
[05:55] <tobias> then its the swap file I need to embiggen
[05:55] <verbose> Dr_willis: nope
[05:55] <Dr_willis> the vncserver script sets the DISPLAY to be somtning differnt. so it may be the X binary then.
[05:55] <tobias> or the swap .. whats its called... swap.... "/swap something_/"
[05:55] <LeeJunFan> it's started by /etc/init.d/hdparm or actually the link in /etc/rc2.d/*hdparm
[05:56] <LeeJunFan> and it uses the conf in /etc/hdparm.conf
[05:56] <verbose> Dr_willis: i can't imagine that they'd hardcode it in the binary
[05:56] <verbose> it's gotta be in some config file
[05:57] <Dr_willis> its scanning the system and setting it according to how it thinks it needs to be set.. if ya ran a 2nd x sessionit  sets it to localhost:1, then localhost:2 from what ive seen
[05:57] <Dr_willis> check the source? :P
[05:57] <Dr_willis> i cant even find any docs for xmove! :P
[05:58] <Dr_willis> all the google hits are for 'moving from windows to linux'
[05:58] <shawnyboy> yay i fixed the problem myself.
[05:59] <Dr_willis> lets see if i can xmove from  this display to the vnc display. ;)
[06:21] <Dr_willis> Woo Hoo.. i got xmove working. :P
[06:30] <nick_> how do i check is xgl is installed before i install compiz
[06:33] <flaccid_> ps aux | grep xgl
[06:33] <flaccid_> ps aux | grep -i xgl
[06:35] <sakitel> Hi
[06:36] <sakitel> somebody knows which is the repository for ndiswrapper????
[06:37] <lupine_85> !ndiswrapper-utils
[06:37] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-utils: Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 27 kB, installed size 136 kB
[06:38] <iosy> in bash, what is the command line for calculating the interval between two dates? i mean, how do i operate with dates?
[06:39] <maltaethiron> hey guys, how do i ping an ip from konsole?
[06:41] <maltaethiron> nvm
[06:41] <kac> dang it.
[06:42] <KickAssClown> Anyone awake at current?
[06:43] <KickAssClown> I'm still stuck outside.
[06:45] <sakitel> lupine_85: sorry but i'm new, so how can I add that description into my repository?
[06:46] <lupine_85> !repositories
[06:46] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:46] <lupine_85> it's in main so you don't need to do anything
[06:46] <lupine_85> just apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[06:46] <lupine_85> (or use adept)
[06:47] <physicsnick> bit of a noob question here, how do I get my system to automatically run a program when I log in?
[06:48] <iosy> physicsnick: kde?
[06:48] <physicsnick> yep
[06:48] <iosy> physicsnick: simply leave it open when leaving kde
[06:48] <claydoh> http://www.eikehein.com/kde/heroes/
[06:48] <iosy> physicsnick: the session is saved automatically
[06:48] <sakitel> lupine_85: thanks, my problem was i just put apt-get ndiswrapper
[06:48] <physicsnick> no, i want it to run a script
[06:49] <iosy> physicsnick: then whatever executable script you want run at startup add to the ~/.kde/autostart folder (or something like that)
[06:49] <physicsnick> ah
[06:49] <physicsnick> perfect thanks
[06:49] <physicsnick> is there a GUI tool to do that for me?
[06:49] <sakitel> lupine_85: and is with "utils", thanks a lot
[06:49] <iosy> physicsnick: wait
[06:55] <KickAssClown> This is rediculous.
[06:55] <KickAssClown> Alright what do I need to keep to be able to download and install a kubuntu opperating system?
[06:56] <KickAssClown> Please tell me somebody is awake, and paying attention
[06:57] <lupine_85> download the CD
[06:57] <lupine_85> put it in the CDROM drive
[06:57] <lupine_85> restart the PC
[06:57] <lupine_85> follow the prompts
[06:57] <claydoh> don't understand the q
[06:57] <claydoh> keep?
[06:57] <KickAssClown> I want to get my gui going again
[06:57] <siewyuk> what happened to your gui?
[06:57] <KickAssClown> Currently I am stuck in console, outside the Gui.
[06:58] <KickAssClown> I changed my Kernel from 2.6.12-8-i386 to 2.6.15-27-k7
[06:58] <lupine_85> so reinstall linux-restricted-modules
[06:58] <KickAssClown> when I did this, my gui died, for lack of better termonology.
[06:58] <lupine_85> or whatever had your graphics card drivers in it
[06:59] <KickAssClown> I am fairly sure I have done that
[06:59] <claydoh> you can also try booting to the old kernel if you didn't uninstall it
[06:59] <KickAssClown> I have uninstalled Gnome, installed and re-installed KDE.
[07:00] <claydoh> its an xorg/video issue, not a gnome/kde thing
[07:00] <KickAssClown> I have uninstalled the core Ubuntu-desktop, and installed the core Kubuntu desktop.
[07:00] <KickAssClown> ok.
[07:01] <claydoh> if you hit esc (iirc) when you see a grub prompt during boot, you can choose which kernel
[07:01] <KickAssClown> I was told by nth to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:01] <claydoh> what video card?
[07:01] <KickAssClown> Geforce 4 mmx 64MB agp 8x, pci card.
[07:02] <claydoh> do you have nvisia-glx installed?
[07:02] <claydoh> nvidia-glx
[07:02] <KickAssClown> I think so, I can check.
[07:02] <claydoh> and linux-restricted-modules-k7
[07:03] <KickAssClown> that was the last string of things I messed with.
[07:03] <KickAssClown> I went along and installed the k7 stuff.
[07:03] <claydoh> but at least you should be able to get to a gui if you can boot with the previous kernel
[07:03] <KickAssClown> Question: what happens if you have more than one kernel?
[07:04] <claydoh> makes it easier to manage
[07:04] <claydoh> nothing, other than extra drive space
[07:04] <claydoh> being used
[07:04] <KickAssClown> hmmm... cause i had several kernels until I figured out I only needed one.
[07:04] <claydoh> gives you a fallback
[07:04] <KickAssClown> and that is when I started having this issue.
[07:05] <KickAssClown> I'm going to check my drivers and I should be back within 10 minutes.
[07:05] <claydoh> edgy won't have all the kernel confusion thank goodness
[07:15] <n8k99> anybody else on ppc having trouble with Koffice on Edgy?
[07:15] <fdoving> hmm.. koffice..
[07:15] <n8k99> yeah, can't get it to install
[07:16] <fdoving> i'll check in a moment.
[07:16] <jdcnyc> testing 1,2,3
[07:16] <n8k99> apt-get and adept both claim it to be a broken package
[07:16] <RawSewage> someone is crashing my client with a DCC hack
[07:16] <RawSewage> someone is crashing my Konversation with a DCC hack
[07:17] <RawSewage> is there a way to fix it
[07:17] <RawSewage> using 1.0
[07:17] <fdoving> !exploit
[07:17] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[07:17] <RawSewage> tyty
[07:17] <fdoving> could it be this?
[07:17] <RawSewage> yes
[07:17] <fdoving> in that case, it might be your router.
[07:17] <jdcnyc> Dumb Question: I just installed Kubuntu and I want a bash shell
[07:18] <fdoving> jdcnyc: kmenu (K in the lower left corner) -> system -> konsole
[07:18] <n8k99> jdcnyc: maybe konsole
[07:18] <claydoh> jdcnyc: Konsole is what you want
[07:18] <n8k99> alt + f2 then type "konsole"
[07:19] <RawSewage> fdoving, thx
[07:19] <jdcnyc> Thanks! Now I can find out whoami :)
[07:20] <n8k99> jdcnyc: glad to help
[07:21] <n8k99> fdoving: any luck on koffice?
[07:22] <fdoving> n8k99: still waiting for 'apt-get update'
[07:22] <jpiccolo_> anyone know why quake 4 wont use the rez that i set it too?
[07:22] <n8k99> sweet thanx
[07:23] <KickAssClown> Hello people.
[07:24] <KickAssClown> I'm back into my gui
[07:24] <claydoh> kewl
[07:24] <fildo> has anyone got nexuiz running here
[07:24] <claydoh> using the previous kernel, or k7?
[07:24] <fdoving> n8k99: missing dependencies here.
[07:24] <orient2000> Some long time ago famost creator of an operator system was in a Polish village. He noticed a peasant striking a horse from his carriage and yelling at him VISTA VISTA VISTA VIO. That is how he come up with a new name for his new version of Microsoft Windows Vista.
[07:24] <n8k99> fdoving: yeah that's what I have have been getting for a week
[07:24] <KickAssClown> Thanks for pointing me at the Driver. I found out that for some odd reason, that I do not understand, my graphic card's driver was switched off.
[07:25] <fdoving> orient2000: offtopic chat goes to #kubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[07:25] <Caitlin> orient2000, hehehe
[07:27] <fdoving> n8k99: it'll be fixed.
[07:29] <n8k99> fdoving: oh yes, i know that, it's late september, i would think that that is someting that gets fixed before edgy is released
[07:29] <n8k99> or at least it would be nice
[07:29] <n8k99> and with koffice in rc1 now - it would be super sweet to have all the new freshness in the new freshness
[07:30] <Caitlin> I saw Kubuntu Edgy Knot 3. Absolutely gorgeous. :)
[07:30] <edanielc> HOLA
[07:31] <fdoving> i think beta will be released to day.
[07:32] <Caitlin> Really?
[07:32] <n8k99> yeah it is scheduled for today
[07:34] <Caitlin> Hmmm I'll have to check that out.
[07:50] <abortd> anyone around?
[07:51] <AWOSDev> What's the command you use to start KDE tools as root
[07:51] <AWOSDev> I thought it was ksudo
[07:51] <AWOSDev> but it isn't
[07:51] <AWOSDev> !ksudo
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksudo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <AWOSDev> nope
[07:52] <AWOSDev> This is going to drive me insane!
[07:52] <claydoh> kdesu
[07:52] <AWOSDev> THAT'S IT!
[07:52] <AWOSDev> Thanks claydoh!
[07:53] <claydoh> ;)
[07:53] <AWOSDev> Now back to work.
[07:53] <AWOSDev> :)
[07:53] <AWOSDev> (for me)
[07:55] <orient2000> I can not get it. What is a diference between Kubuntu Edgy and 6.0x LTS?
[07:56] <abortd> while im in kubuntu it used to have stacked programs in the tray now its just one long tab of the programs and not neatly stacked
[07:56] <abortd> how do i fix it?
[07:56] <abortd> i've tried everything i think
[08:00] <fdoving> !edgy
[08:00] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[08:00] <fdoving> orient2000: ^^
[08:00] <claydoh> abortd: try resizing it custom, right-click on the kicker, Configure Panel, then in the size, choose ustom and play around,  I use 53
[08:00] <fdoving> orient2000: edgy is the next version of kubuntu/ubuntu. will be released in a month or so.
[08:01] <NthDegree> !schedule
[08:01] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[08:01] <elpuerco> ?
[08:06] <duncan_> how are you supposed to install the newest nvidia drivers
[08:09] <NthDegree> use the .run package
[08:09] <NthDegree> do it the normal way and go on the nvidia website for the latest
[08:09] <duncan_> it said i needed binutils
[08:10] <NthDegree> lmao
[08:10] <orient2000> it confused me because name was changed to 6.0x LTS and now back to Edgy 3.
[08:10] <NthDegree> of course you do
[08:10] <duncan_> sorry I'm new to linux :P
[08:10] <NthDegree> well try using the packaged nvidia drivers then
[08:10] <duncan_> but they are older?
[08:10] <NthDegree> it requires a lot of somewhat unnecessary messing around for the latest
[08:11] <NthDegree> duncan_: yes and they have been well tested
[08:11] <NthDegree> the reason things stay older in Linux is usually down to stability
[08:11] <NthDegree> older usually means more stable and better tested meaning less bugs
[08:11] <duncan_> But at the cost of less performance?
[08:12] <NthDegree> uh not necessarily
[08:12] <NthDegree> performance on new versions is somewhat a myth
[08:12] <NthDegree> it's new features you get on newer versions
[08:13] <duncan_> ok
[08:13] <kraut> moin
[08:14] <NthDegree> le doggy poop :p
[08:25] <|michael|> how well does kde install and run?
[08:25] <lupine_85> "very"
[08:26] <|michael|> any known problems?
[08:27] <|michael|> I am new and comming over from suse....  I have heard a lot of good thing about ubuntu/kubuntu
[08:32] <orient2000> I just installed opera and I had some errors. [Invalid UTF-8]  Could not parse file /usr/share/applications/kde/kmess.desktop desktop entry contain line 'Comment[de] =MSN Messanger Clone f\xfcr KDE3' which is not UTF-8
[08:34] <Vanique> lo NthDegree:)
[08:35] <NthDegree> sorry but I just hate the look of KVIRC right now
[08:35] <NthDegree> no offence
[08:35] <KickAssClown> Hey AWOS, I'm back in my gui, finally.
[08:35] <NthDegree> it has more functionality but looks uglier than windows lol
[08:35] <NthDegree> dare i say
[08:35] <KickAssClown> It was a stupid thing
[08:36] <KickAssClown> somehow my graphic package, nvidia-glx, got disabled. I can't figure out how.
[08:37] <gsuveg> ia hve problem with opera. many sites in opera looks ugly. ff / konq good. but, if im install opera-static sites look good in opera.
[08:37] <gsuveg> anybody have idea why?
[08:38] <Lamington> help
[08:38] <Lamington> I can't use Adept Updater
[08:38] <Lamington> This is incredibly annoying
[08:39] <Lamington> I keep getting this message:
[08:39] <Lamington> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[08:40] <Lamington> I have no idea what else might be using the packaging system database... I havent been using apt or anything... I've rebooted my computer and all...
[08:43] <orient2000> did you do any manual changes in any lists?
[08:43] <Lamington> I added Enlightenment E17 to my sources.list
[08:43] <Lamington> sources
[08:44] <orient2000> the same thing happened to me. I think I removed it and everythink was OK then.
[08:44] <lupine_85> Lamington: try deleting the lock file
[08:44] <lupine_85>  /var/dpkg/lock or whatever it's called
[08:45] <Lamington> I think I might just remove E and its sources... I've had a play with it, it looks good but its still a bit alpha for me
[08:45] <Lamington> lupine_85: why would it be locked ?
[08:46] <lupine_85> if, for example, adept crashed
[08:46] <Lamington> ah k
[08:46] <lupine_85> any situation where a program created the lock file, but didn't remove it
[08:46] <t> hi. how to format ups?
[08:55] <sakitel> hello
[08:55] <sakitel> somebody who uses ndiswrapper?
[08:55] <sakitel> somebody who use ndiswrapper?
[08:55] <t> what is the password for kdewallet? my password doesn`t work
[08:56] <sakitel> t: try with you msn pass, maybe you put a mistake and confuse the pass
[08:56] <sakitel> t: or try another of your pass
[08:56] <sakitel> t: or try another of your pass???
[08:57] <sakitel> somebody who use ndiswrapper?????????????
[08:57] <sakitel> somebody who use ndiswrapper?????????????
[08:57] <sakitel> somebody who use ndiswrapper?????????????
[09:00] <t> sakitel - i`ve never set the password for kwallet
[09:00] <t> it`s fresh kubuntu on this machine
[09:00] <t> and kwallet wants password
[09:02] <Lamington> hmm things looking better now
[09:04] <sakitel> t: well, just close the kwallet
[09:04] <sakitel> t: and then continue were you do it
[09:04] <Lamington> thanks for your patience guys
[09:05] <t> sakitel - thanks
[09:09] <jpiccolo_> you see the prices on hard drives
[09:09] <jpiccolo_> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148139
[09:16] <prokher> hi, guys is it possible to make kmail work through socks proxy? i set up socks proxy in kde settings and button "test" said everything is ok, but kmail can't get mail... what is wrong ?
[09:21] <t> how to install quake 3 demo on kubuntu? http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfdownloads/singlefile.php?cid=26&lid=57
[09:40] <manu__> hi?
[09:40] <manu__> somebody help me?
[09:41] <chalcedony> hi manu__ i don't know much to help
[09:41] <manu__> is about photoshop
[09:41] <manu__> i install gimp
[09:41] <manu__> and i want see gimp like a photoshop
[09:42] <manu__> i want see gimp only in one window
[09:43] <chalcedony> try #photography ?
[09:46] <BadWolf_> hi
[09:47] <BadWolf_> i have a usb mouse... how to configure it?
[09:47] <t> BadWolf_ ?
[09:47] <t> in what way?
[09:50] <BadWolf_> t: for kde
[09:50] <BadWolf_> or just tell me what device it is in /dev
[09:50] <BadWolf_> and i put it into the xorg.conf
[09:52] <elisiano> hello guys
[09:52] <elisiano> is there anyone willing to help me out?
[09:54] <weedar> BadWolf_: usually usb mice will work right after plugging in
[10:07] <elisiano> how can I set a package status manually? I mean there is a package which depends on libdbus-1-2 but libdbus-1-3 is installed...
[10:14] <MDCore> does it depend on libdbus-1-2 explicity or libdbus >= 1-2 ?
[10:14] <MDCore> let me try this :)
[10:14] <MDCore> !package libdbus
[10:14] <MDCore> ??
[10:14] <MDCore> :(
[10:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about package libdbus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <cpk2> trying to use the live cd on my desktop, but can only seem to get working video in a terminal other than 7...
[10:16] <cpk2> using an nvidia card
[10:17] <t> how to open all mp3s with koffeine? i checked on opening one mp3 that it should use koffeine for all kind of that file type (mp3) in koffeine, but amarok still opens them
[10:22] <t> damn. if i try to uninstall amarok it wants to uninstall kde-desktop too
[10:23] <elisiano> MDCore: it depends on libdbus-1-2
[10:23] <elisiano> maybe the original package was misconfigured?
[10:24] <MDCore> elis: can you not install libdbus-1-2 ? also there is the nodeps stuff that I've heard of... ask in #debian ? or #ubuntu ?
[10:24] <MDCore> t: try this...
[10:24] <MDCore> t: Konq -> configure kong... -> File Assocations
[10:24] <MDCore> t: type mp3 and change the preferred order.
[10:25] <elisiano> may I paste here?
[10:25] <elisiano> it's 4 lines
[10:26] <cpk2> any idea why my desktop has problem with video using the live cd? only thing i say in the Xorg log was was a warning about a bad v_bios
[10:26] <t> MDCore - thanks, i`ll try it. who`s your favourite free music author?
[10:26] <elisiano> Package libdbus-1-2 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source. E: Package libdbus-1-2 has no installation candidate
[10:26] <MDCore> t: uh ... ? ? no idea.
[10:27] <elisiano> ou btw, I'm using edgy... that could be the problem :)
[10:27] <MDCore> elisiano: what package are you trying to install ?
[10:27] <elisiano> compiz-plugins
[10:27] <MDCore> aaaaah compiz :D
[10:27] <elisiano> lol
[10:27] <elisiano> :D
[10:27] <MDCore> I've been messing with that for the past week.
[10:27] <MDCore> still no pretty :(
[10:28] <elisiano> :-\
[10:28] <MDCore> There are a lot of conflicting instructions on the net for how to set it up.
[10:28] <elisiano> I heard that in the future kde will have native support for compiz
[10:28] <MDCore> and the compiz stuff change to beryl... it's all very confusing right now.
[10:29] <MDCore> I think I'm going to wait till you don't need to be a compiz/*buntu developer to set it up :)
[10:29] <elisiano> lol :D
[10:29] <elisiano> it's pretty though
[10:30] <MDCore> it is... that's why I want it... impress my friends with my leet cool desktop (what..? I'm supposed to be working?? oh riiiight )
[10:31] <elisiano> me too ^_^
[10:32] <elisiano> working in a nice environment makes you feel better though
[10:32] <elisiano> :D
[10:35] <Slynderdale> Whats a good instant messanger for Ubuntu?
[10:36] <Arepie> Slynderdale: Gaim ?
[10:38] <Healot> and many more, but GaIM rocks :-
[10:38] <ubuntu> kopete is kde's
[10:38] <ubuntu> heh
[10:42] <Slynderdale> Just installed Ubuntu+KDE tonight so I'm still a bit new. I added WIne and so far, everything seems to be going well.
[10:44] <t> i try for 1st time to burn audio cd in K3b. but there is error- "Cdrecord has no permission to open the device". what`s the solution?
[10:45] <t> abattoir - hi again. i try for 1st time to burn audio cd in K3b. but there is error- "Cdrecord has no permission to open the device". what`s the solution?
[10:45] <Slynderdale> Whats your perferred browser of choice for Kubuntu?
[10:46] <abattoir> t: did you run k3bsetup2 ?
[10:46] <abattoir> t: wait a sec
[10:47] <Greenlynx> gazou
[10:47] <abattoir> t: Settings->K3B setup
[10:47] <gazou> pk tu tes connecter tu me gonfle...
[10:48] <Greenlynx> atten
[10:49] <t> abattoir - and check setting -> burning, right?
[10:49] <gazou> nan je nattend pas tu me gonfle je tai di de ne pas te connecter et tu te connecte ya du foutage de gueul kan mm
[10:49] <abattoir> t: once you run that, and click apply, ok, it should work
[10:49] <abattoir> !fr
[10:49] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:49] <Greenlynx> demande
[10:49] <Greenlynx> ben
[10:50] <gazou> a qui tu veux que je demande?
[10:50] <gazou> et cest quoi le pseudo de ta pute?????
[10:50] <Greenlynx> je me suis connect a l'instant
[10:50] <Greenlynx> nj si tu di d gros mot il vont te kicker
[10:50] <Greenlynx> vien en priv
[10:50] <t> abattoir - doesn`t work, even after reloaded the k3b
[10:50] <gazou> je men fout de se truk a la con
[10:50] <t> the same error - cdrecord has no permission to open the device
[10:51] <gazou> de toutes facon est pour des rencontre alors je vois pourquoi tu y es...
[10:51] <abattoir> hmm ok, are you trying to decode mp3s?
[10:51] <abattoir> t: ^^^^
[10:51] <t> abattoir - yes, but i installed the requider library
[10:52] <abattoir> libk3b2-mp3 huh?
[10:52] <t> yes
[10:53] <Healot> !fr
[10:53] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:53] <gazou> en tout cas desolee de se que greenlynx a pu vous dire sur moi mais cetais hors context.je suis passer pour folle mais bon cest pas grave je suis habituer avec lui...
[10:54] <gazou> en tout cas si il y en a une qui ose lui reparler je risque de me deplacer...
[10:54] <tsdgeos> !fr
[10:54] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:55] <abattoir> gazou: ^^^^
[10:55] <abattoir> t: could you try 'cdrecord -scanbus' in a terminal(konsole) ?
[10:56] <t> abattoir - http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot4oq1.png
[10:56] <t> abattoir - ok
[10:56] <Slynderdale> Does Kubuntu come with Bash out of the box?
[10:56] <abattoir> t: tell me if you get an error
[10:56] <MDCore> what is the difference between removing a package and purging a package ?
[10:57] <t> abattoir - error trying to open
[10:57] <t> abattoir - cdrecord - permission denied
[10:57] <abattoir> t: ok, then this thread is for you :)
[10:57] <abattoir> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217472
[10:58] <t> abattoir - thanks. long time to read
[10:58] <abattoir> t: at least it'd solve the issue(hopefully ;) )
[10:59] <t> abattoir - do you eat frogs?
[10:59] <abattoir> but you might want to read it fully, as other simpler solutions seem to be posted afterwards
[10:59] <abattoir> no, I'm not french :)
[10:59] <abattoir> (assuming that's what you tried to imply)
[11:02] <bltc> setan
[11:03] <bltc> may i have ur attention lpease?
[11:04] <t> abbatoir - how to make new file in /etc/udev/ ?
[11:05] <bltc> i dunno
[11:06] <t> abbatoir - how to make new file in /etc/udev/ ? i got "acces denied"
[11:08] <zorglu_> !info strigi
[11:08] <ubotu> Package strigi does not exist in any distro I know
[11:09] <zorglu_> t, i think there is a config file
[11:10] <abattoir> t: sorry...
[11:10] <abattoir> t: there seem to be other simpler solutions as well
[11:10] <abattoir> t: like running dpkg-reconfigure on cdrecord and changing the ownership of the device
[11:11] <abattoir> t: look at posts 2 and 6
[11:12] <h3sp4wn> cdrecord should be suid root
[11:14] <t> abattoir - i just type code from post to console and reboot?
[11:14] <abattoir> t: which ones?
[11:14] <t> chown root:cdrom /dev/sg0
[11:15] <abattoir> t: did you run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure cdrecord' ?
[11:15] <abattoir> t: and i think you should append the cdrecord... command to /etc/rc.local
[11:16] <t> in this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure cdrecord" they ask me if i want to install SUID
[11:16] <t> yes?
[11:16] <h3sp4wn> yep
[11:17] <h3sp4wn> otherwise you will need to record cd's as root
[11:17] <abattoir> yes, suid root
[11:22] <t> abattoir - ok, pasted. now reboot
[11:23] <dero> hey does anyone know how to changed bpp desktop
[11:25] <cpk2> using live cd, booting in safe mode gives me ok graphics, however the normal bootup the system cant figure out the monitors hsync and vrefresh and even when i manually edit xorg with the correct values i still cant get a picture, any ideas?
[11:25] <t> abattoir - "Performing Optimum Power Calibration"
[11:25] <h3sp4wn> cpk2: Have you made your own modeline ?
[11:25] <t> abattor - ok, it`s writing
[11:26] <cpk2> h3sp4wn: no...
[11:26] <h3sp4wn> cpk2: What resolution and refresh rate are you trying to use
[11:26] <t> abattoir - i eat frogs, but i`m not french either
[11:26] <abattoir> t: good :)
[11:27] <abattoir> t: yes, i wanted to make that clarification, that's why i said "if that's what you imply" ;)
[11:28] <cpk2> h3sp4wn: any, all i get is static when trying to boot the live cd in normal mode
[11:29] <cpk2> and the xorg currently has no modelines in it
[11:29] <h3sp4wn> cpk2: laptop or desktop - widescreen ? anything else out of the ordinary
[11:29] <cpk2> its a desktop nvidia 6600
[11:30] <_laurent> salut  toutes et tous
[11:30] <cpk2> the xorg currently has no modeline entries
[11:30] <_laurent> hi all
[11:30] <Rambo3> allo
[11:30] <h3sp4wn> cpk2: lcd panel or crt ?
[11:30] <cpk2> crt
[11:30] <h3sp4wn> cpk2: http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl
[11:31] <cpk2> its pretty much all standard
[11:31] <_laurent> is anybody knows how to install python 2.5 on my kubuntu ?
[11:31] <cpk2> h3sp4wn: ooh cool thanks for the link
[11:31] <h3sp4wn> cpk2: Either install it from the alternative cd or live cd (or use knoppix or kanotix kubuntu is a lousy live cd)
[11:32] <Rambo3> !info python2.4
[11:32] <ubotu> python2.4: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 2.4). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.3-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 2673 kB, installed size 9068 kB
[11:32] <cpk2> h3sp4wn: the funny thing is my laptop had no problems at all
[11:32] <Rambo3> !info python2.5
[11:32] <ubotu> Package python2.5 does not exist in any distro I know
[11:33] <t> i planning to get more solar collectors to power my pc
[11:36] <don-harry> !wiki theme kdm
[11:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wiki theme kdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:38] <greister> How to get root privilige under kubuntu?
[11:38] <h3sp4wn> sudo -i
[11:39] <greister> get root password?
[11:40] <abattoir> !sudo
[11:40] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:41] <cpk2> h3sp4wn: that site seems to not like me trying to use 1024x768 even though my monitor documentation says it supports it easily
[11:41] <abattoir> greister: ^^^^
[11:44] <h3sp4wn> cpk2: 1024x768@75 ?
[11:45] <h3sp4wn> cpk2: Modeline "1024x768@75" 85.52 1024 1056 1376 1408 768 782 792 807
[11:45] <cpk2> h3sp4wn: nevermind, i got it figured out, the boxes for aspect are misaligned on my browser
[11:47] <cpk2> h3sp4wn: any reason not to do 1024x768@85?
[11:48] <h3sp4wn> cpk2: if the monitor can handle it no (but I would wait until it is installed and use the nvidia binary drivers)
[11:48] <main2> anyone using a 1650x1080 resolution (on LCD)?
[11:49] <cpk2> binary = nvidia propietery or the free ones?
[11:49] <main2> my NVIDIA driver says (in xorg.conf) (WW) NVIDIA(0): No valid modes for "1650x1080"; removing.
[11:49] <main2> non-free
[11:49] <h3sp4wn> cpk2: non-free
[11:49] <main2> sorry..
[11:50] <h3sp4wn> main2: Make a suitable modeline http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl
[11:50] <h3sp4wn> main2: modeline's go in Section Monitor
[11:51] <main2> ive done that, using the following settings...
[11:51] <h3sp4wn> main2: then add the modeline section "screen" (i.e 1650x1080@60)
[11:54] <main2> is it important to use @hz?
[11:54] <h3sp4wn> Otherwise the modeline won't be used (afaik - not spent ages messing with them)
[11:55] <jmz> why am I getting "invalid or corrupt kernel image"?
[11:55] <main2> all my modelines are without @hz
[11:55] <jmz> when I try to install from CD
[11:55] <h3sp4wn> jmz: corrupt cd ?
[11:55] <main2> crashing my xorg..
[11:55] <jmz> i got the ISO off the site
[11:55] <h3sp4wn> jmz: check the md5sum against the burnt image
[11:55] <jmz> this happened twice to me
[11:56] <jmz> two cds
[11:56] <jmz> maybe somethings up
[11:56] <h3sp4wn> Could be the initial file was downloaded wrong
[11:56] <h3sp4wn> md5sum whatever.iso
[11:56] <jmz> im on winblows
[11:56] <main2> (WW) NVIDIA(0): No valid modes for "1650x1080@60"; removing.
[11:57] <h3sp4wn> main2: does it work with nv ?
[11:57] <main2> could try..
[11:57] <jmz> definately a cd prob huh?
[11:58] <h3sp4wn> jmz: If you are using the dapper cd and getting that error I can't think of anything else
[11:58] <jmz> ok thx h3s
[11:58] <h3sp4wn> jmz: Have you tried the alternative cd ?
[11:58] <jmz> whats that?
[11:58] <h3sp4wn> the other cd you can download
[11:59] <jmz> why is it differnet?
[11:59] <h3sp4wn> different installer and not a live cd
[11:59] <jmz> oh that
[11:59] <jmz> i will give the alternative a try as well
[12:00] <h3sp4wn> jmz: burn DAO at a low speed (4x for example)
[12:00] <cpk2> h3sp4wn: for some reason xorg says modeline is an invalid entry in the display section, will this be a problem that will be easy to fix after I install kubuntu?
[12:01] <jmz> could be my burner
[12:01] <h3sp4wn> cpk2: Should be
[12:01] <jmz> well thx
[12:01] <jmz> im going to have to wait on this one
[12:16] <cpk2> is dedicating a 40gig hard drive to root and swap a bit overkill?
[12:18] <abattoir> cpk2: depends on your needs... you are going to have  a separate /home partition?
[12:18] <cpk2> yeah i have a 300gig that will be /home
[12:19] <abattoir> cpk2: then yes, for most users its way overkill
[12:19] <abattoir> :)
[12:20] <cpk2> its just, whats the point of partitioning the little 40 to partly be on home? i think it would be easier/cleaner to have root on its own small drive so i can eventually get rid of it without having storage spaning onto that drive
[12:21] <h3sp4wn> I would put the swap onto the faster drive
[12:21] <cpk2> i suppose that would be my big sata drive
[12:21] <cpk2> just trying to figure out how i want my desktop partitioned
[12:22] <cpk2> so any helpful input would be greatly appreciated =)
[12:22] <h3sp4wn> cpk2: http://paste.debian.net/13881 (that is mine)
[12:24] <h3sp4wn> cpk2: http://paste.debian.net/13882
[12:24] <h3sp4wn> (I have a 320gb drive didn't really know how to partition it but its ok at least for the moment)
[12:26] <cpk2> i dont really get the point behind using reiserfs
[12:27] <cpk2> i was thinking of just having a root swap and home and then maybe a samba partition as well
[12:28] <h3sp4wn> I want / seperate to /usr
[12:28] <h3sp4wn> (incase something goes wrong) so / is always ok
[12:29] <cpk2> how much space did you give /usr?
[12:30] <h3sp4wn> too much
[12:30] <h3sp4wn> 66G
[12:31] <h3sp4wn> I should have made / only 1gb
[12:31] <cpk2> hah, so i suppose if i gave / about 5G and /usr 20ish that would be good?
[12:32] <h3sp4wn> can only be very small if everything else has its own partition
[12:33] <cpk2> what would everything else be?
[12:33] <t> i don`t have sound only in KsCD
[12:34] <h3sp4wn> cpk2: no idea I hava shown you what I use
[12:34] <t> i set to direct, and works
[12:35] <cpk2> h3sp4wn: it looks all complicated and messy =\ whats the command to print that list you gave me?
[12:36] <h3sp4wn> mount or df -h
[12:40] <cpk2> h3sp4wn: these all seems like it might be a little overwhelming for poor old nooby me =\
[12:41] <h3sp4wn> cpk2: If you do run out of space you can just symlink stuff to other partitions
[12:41] <flaccid_> how do i change the font for firefox' menus etc.?
[12:41] <t> ktorrent crashes every time i try to start him
[12:42] <cpk2> h3sp4wn: what i kinda was visualizing was having my /home data be free from the rest of the system so if needed i can transfer the hard drives around or something
[12:43] <crazy_penguin> Good day all! :)
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[01:03] <copter> hi, ive got some problems with a DVD burning speed in K3B. DMA is on, burner is 16x, media is 16x, max speed gained is 4x. help anyone?
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[01:04] <h3sp4wn> copter: kdesu k3bsetup
[01:04] <copter> h3sp4wn: ok, and than?
[01:05] <copter> everything looks fine
[01:05] <h3sp4wn> copter: all permissions are correct (cdrecord suid root etc)
[01:06] <copter> h3sp4wn: cdrecord 0755 root.root, cdrdao 4711 root.root
[01:06] <h3sp4wn> copter: well cdrecord is not suid root then
[01:07] <copter> h3sp4wn: /dev/hdc 660 root.cdrom
[01:07] <abortd> how do i add multiverse to kubuntu?
[01:07] <h3sp4wn> k3bsetup sets the permissions as it wants them
[01:07] <main2> 1680x1050 is working (well.. gdm is starting up in this mode) but then kde puts it back to 1280x1024
[01:07] <main2> where does KDE store its display resolution?
[01:08] <copter> h3sp4wn: em, ok, than i should add suid root to cdrecord and thats all?
[01:08] <h3sp4wn> copter: Just apply the settings from k3bsetup
[01:09] <copter> h3sp4wn: yes, but it says no change everywhere
[01:09] <Linux_Galore> main2: kcontrol -> Peripherals -> display
[01:09] <copter> h3sp4wn: clicking ok doesnt do anything
[01:09] <main2> Linux_Galore: that doesnt work here, after i installed XGL it stopped working..
[01:09] <h3sp4wn> copter: just manually change the permissions as it wants to then
[01:09] <main2> Linux_Galore: do you know where that value ends up?
[01:09] <main2> because i know that it will work if i change it there
[01:10] <Linux_Galore> main2: I gave up on xgl
[01:10] <main2> Linux_Galore: i will give up soon if the memory leaking doest stop, but meanwhile - i fuck around a bit
[01:10] <Linux_Galore> main2: its still technically unstable
[01:11] <main2> Linux_Galore: thats why its called 'alpha-stage' software :P
[01:11] <copter> h3sp4wn: "as it wants to", but k3bsetup says its all fine. can you write me plese what exacly i have to change manually. only cdrecord suid root?
[01:11] <Linux_Galore> I have better things to do than worry about menu animation
[01:11] <h3sp4wn> copter: it lists its permissions on the right hand side any that are not marked as ok change
[01:13] <RawSewage> is there a way to throttle the speed on Klibido
[01:14] <copter> h3sp4wn: than im idiot or something isnt right there. on column 'new priviliges' it says 'no change' everywhere and i have no idea how to change it inside k3bsetup :/
[01:18] <abortd> !opengl
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[01:28] <twenty2sixty> hi! i'd like to have my laptop's synaptics-touchpad fully supported in kubuntu. therefore i need synaptics-driver-version 0.14.4 or higher. the official repos only offer 0.14.3. i could of course download & install the latest driver manually. but it would be nicer to have a repo that offers a more up-to-date version of the xorg-synaptics-driver. anyone here who has an entry for the sources.list at hand that might offer this
[01:29] <danimo> hi
[01:33] <copter> h3sp4wn: after manual set (sudo chmod 4755 /usr/bin/cdrecord*) K3B complains that due to security reasons since Kernel 2.6.8 cdrecord should have root suid
[01:33] <copter> h3sp4wn: k3bsetup says to change it back to 755
[01:35] <h3sp4wn> I thought root suid was 4711
[01:35] <cfraz89> hi
[01:35] <cfraz89> just installed edgy eft
[01:36] <copter> h3sp4wn: well, i googled it, to change to 4755
[01:37] <h3sp4wn> maybe I use a later version of k3b / cdrecord
[01:37] <copter> h3sp4wn: after change to 4711 K3B says it cant find cdrecord at all
[01:37] <h3sp4wn> that is what I have it set as and its working fine (kde 3.5.4)
[01:38] <copter> do you burn as root?
[01:38] <h3sp4wn> no
[01:38] <h3sp4wn> well I think cdrecord runs as root but k3b does not
[01:39] <copter> well, 4711 says -rws--x--x 1 root root    133 2006-04-12 09:32 /usr/bin/cdrecord, so no read for k3b i presume
[01:39] <copter> 4755 did the trick (-rwsr-xr-x)
[01:39] <copter> but K3B complains
[01:40] <gratis> i`ve got problemm with amarok. it plays cdaudio, but doesn`t want to play mp3, ogg. koffeine works ok with any kind of these files but i need options from amarok. what`s the solution? i`ve got the newest amarok version
[01:40] <h3sp4wn> -rws--x--x  1 root   root     363924 2006-09-21 13:07 cdrecord (that is what I have)
[01:40] <copter> -rws--x--x 1 root root    133 2006-04-12 09:32 /usr/bin/cdrecord (size differs.....)
[01:41] <gratis> more details- amarok plays music files only then when i open them in amarok
[01:41] <copter> does K3B has to be set manually to some special group
[01:41] <gratis> when i start music files from konqueror, amarok starts but there`s nothing changing in it
[01:42] <h3sp4wn> copter: Its beyond me now
[01:42] <LeeJunFan> damnit. us.archive.ubuntu.com just went down in the middle of me downloading from it.
[01:42] <LeeJunFan> oh, looks like it's back now.
[01:42] <copter> h3sp4wn: ok, anyway thanks a lot for help.
[01:43] <copter> h3sp4wn: i know where / what i have to search for now :)
[01:44] <cfraz89> did the ubuntu servers go down?
[01:44] <cfraz89> i was in the middle of an upgrade...
[01:44] <gratis> problemm with amarok (look my previous texts): it`s look like that when i try to start music files from konqueror- http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot5bu0.png
[01:44] <LeeJunFan> cfraz89: yes, look up about 5 lines at my last.
[01:44] <gratis> when i start files from amarok- all works ok
[01:44] <llxcamxll> !java re
[01:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java re - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:45] <llxcamxll> !java
[01:45] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[01:45] <cfraz89> LeeJunFan: thanks :)
[01:46] <cfraz89> does anyone know what happened to kget in edgy?
[01:48] <cfraz89> it seems they have just slowed down totally...
[01:48] <LeeJunFan> cfraz89: znarl is going to get the server taken car of.
[01:48] <cfraz89> ok, :)
[01:50] <zorglu_> gratis: the issue comes from the system: in konqueror url i think
[01:50] <zorglu_> gratis: try playing it directly from the root dir
[01:51] <gratis> how?
[01:51] <gratis> how to do it?
[01:51] <cfraz89> edgy sure is nice...
[01:51] <gratis> zorglu_ ^
[01:51] <zorglu_> left tab of konqueror "root folder" -> goto to the dir with tthat
[01:51] <zorglu_> i dunno where it is
[01:52] <LeeJunFan> yes and edgy doesn't have that problem gratis is having with system:/ and media:/ links as it translates to full paths in konqueror now. :)
[01:52] <zorglu_> /home/yourloginname
[01:52] <zorglu_> LeeJunFan: nice :)
[01:52] <zorglu_> LeeJunFan: there is an issue with playing m3u from the web too
[01:52] <gratis> zorglu_ i don`t have any amarok folders in myname folder
[01:53] <LeeJunFan> zorglu_: yeah, that was a sore spot with me, kde apps didn't even handle it half the time, amarok, k3b, etc..
[01:53] <zorglu_> LeeJunFan: when i clock on a url, konqueror download it in a local file and then pass it to amarok, but the local file doesnt have .m3u at the end, so amarok doesnt handle it as a playlist
[01:53] <zorglu_> i had to do a script to workaround this
[01:54] <zorglu_> gratis: find the audio file you wanna play and click on it, but from 'root folder' tab
[01:54] <zorglu_> LeeJunFan: do you know if this one have been fixed ?
[01:55] <gratis> zorglu_ what do you mean by "root folder tab"?
[01:55] <zorglu_>  left tab of konqueror "root folder" -> goto to the dir with tthat
[01:57] <gratis> zorglu_ you mean /root ? i don`t have any amarok here
[01:57] <zorglu_> heh
[01:58] <zorglu_> 1. open konqueror
[01:58] <zorglu_> 2. look on the left of the win
[01:58] <zorglu_> you will see tab
[01:58] <zorglu_> 3. click on the one called 'root folder'
[01:58] <zorglu_> i cant do better than that :)
[01:59] <gratis> ok
[01:59] <gratis> i did it
[01:59] <gratis> im in /
[02:00] <zorglu_> now find the audio file you wanna play with amarok
[02:00] <zorglu_> and click on it
[02:00] <gratis> wow, plays
[02:01] <zorglu_> cool :)
[02:01] <nnnnn> nnn
[02:02] <RawSewage> in Konqueror, is there a way to delete things in the left side pane, rather than right-clicking and selecting Delete
[02:02] <RawSewage> I want to delete things in the left side using the Delete key, but it doesnt work
[02:03] <gratis> zorglu - but if i open my music folder via shortcut and try to start the file, there`s silence
[02:06] <gratis> zorglu - i made better shortcut now, thanks
[02:12] <ubuntu> hello
[02:17] <ctw> Hi, I have a strange problem that I hope somebody can help me fix. When I'm in the printer settings dialog and click on "add printer", the backend selection screen only includes SMB, other printer type, and class of printer. All other choices are grayed out. How can I enable the other backends?
[02:21] <gratis> what does "full upgrade" button in Adept?
[02:22] <ctw> I'm using KDE 3.5.4
[02:23] <cfraz89> gratis: it upgrades all packages, including major ones which may break your os
[02:23] <cfraz89> but its generally safe
[02:24] <gratis> cfraz89 lol
[02:24] <cfraz89> :P
[02:26] <sorush20> how do if get to view the properties of a file to find out what time a file was created ?
[02:27] <sorush20> the file is a wma
[02:29] <gratis> sorush20 - send me it
[02:30] <sorush20> gratis: how do I ? and also why should I the audio is from a lecture.. I dont think I need to send youit
[02:36] <ctw> sorush20: right click on the file and select properties
[02:36] <sorush20> ctw: that dosent give me the info about when it was created..
[02:37] <ctw> soursh20: this info may not be available
[02:38] <sorush20> ctw: why is that can I do something to make sure I can see it?
[02:41] <_thumper_> what do people use to sync palms with kontact?
[02:41] <_thumper_> I have a tungsten T5
[02:44] <tsb> Hello. I am trying to enable kmix's "mute" feature. However, my soundcard doesn't have a "master" channel, only PCM, and so it doesn't work. Any ideas here? Ideally I'd have master, since taht would also make my volume up/down buttons work automatically (they work on master, not PCM)
[02:45] <haq> hi
[02:48] <llxcamxll> has anybody had a working copy of quake1 on kubuntu??
[02:49] <ctw> If you go on "Print System" -> "Add printer" and hit "Next" what do you see? For me most of the backends are grayed out ... :(
[02:53] <zen> noice
[02:55] <zen> `info
[02:55] <zen> wow across servers
[02:55] <flake> when i create some shell batch-like processes to run manually, where should i store them -  in my home folder, or somewhere in one of the root folders
[03:02] <cfraz89> does anyone know where the kget package is in edgy?
[03:08] <abattoir> !info kget edgy
[03:08] <ubotu> kget: download manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.4-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 431 kB, installed size 1172 kB
[03:08] <abattoir> cfraz89: ^^^ its in universe
[03:09] <m3xican> Dasnipa`: :)
[03:09] <abattoir> drarem: if you want to run it manually, i guess you can store it pretty much anywhere
[03:09] <cfraz89> abattoir: i'm such a doobie, thanks :)
[03:09] <abattoir> cfraz89: no problem :)
[03:09] <cfraz89> forgot to enable universe ^^
[03:23] <ubuntu> aloa
[03:23] <ubuntu> when i can take the repo
[03:26] <pielgrzym> does the standard (k)ubuntu kernel have splash screen support compiled? or should I patch the source availible on repositories?
[03:26] <jfdbmi> I am trying to get the key for updating my kde to 3.5.4 but I cannot connect
[03:28] <jfdbmi> This is the message in the konsole Connecting to people.ubuntu.com|1.0.0.0|:80...
[03:40] <Igor_V2> hi, i have a hidden directory...how change it for a normal one...no hidden...???
[03:40] <Igor_V2> anybody knows??
[03:41] <LjL> Igor_V2: "hidden" files (or directories) in Unix are simply files whose name start with a "." (period).  remove the period from the name, and it won't be hidden anymore. however, if programs expect the period to be there, they will rbeak
[03:42] <bubblenut> In order to upgrade to edgy do I just have to make sure all my packages up to date, change my sources.list so that all "dapper" entries are changed to "edgy" and to a dist-upgrade?
[03:42] <LjL> Igor_V2: otherwise, from a console, you can just type "ls -a" rather than just "ls" to see the hidden files
[03:43] <h3sp4wn> bubblenut: don't use adept or synaptic to do the dist-upgrade
[03:43] <desiderato> waaaaaa
[03:43] <desiderato> use apt
[03:43] <desiderato> :S
[03:43] <CVirus> whats the point ?
[03:44] <bubblenut> h3sp4wn: OK, apart from that is it OK?
[03:44] <Dasnipa`> m3xican, ;)
[03:44] <h3sp4wn> bubblenut: Maybe / maybe not / couldn't say for sure
[03:45] <bubblenut> Oh well, here goes :/
[03:46] <bubblenut> Seems to be worH^H^H^H^
[03:51] <insanekane> anyone got a tablet notebook working with Kubuntu ?
[03:51] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Some one wqs asking about making rars under linux with the gui. I just noticed the rghtclick _> Compress --> make .rar    menu item :P
[03:52] <Dr_willis> How convient
[03:58] <jfdbmi_> is there a way to download a key and add it besides wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[03:59] <CVirus> kgpg ?
[03:59] <h3sp4wn> you can download it from a keyserver
[04:00] <jfdbmi_> and then how do I add it?
[04:00] <h3sp4wn> apt-key add
[04:00] <Dr_willis>  besides wget? Why not use wget?
[04:00] <Dr_willis> heh
[04:00] <jfdbmi_> I am getting timed out
[04:01] <h3sp4wn> gpg --armor --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -
[04:01] <jfdbmi_> I don't understand why
[04:01] <h3sp4wn> (after you have got the key in root's keyring
[04:01] <Dr_willis> 10:01:31 (7.54 KB/s) - `kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg' saved [26430/26430] 
[04:01] <Dr_willis> it just worked for me jfdbmi
[04:01] <jfdbmi_> where do I save the key
[04:01] <nixternal> gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys <key_ID> && gpg --export --armor <key_ID> | sudo apt-key add -
[04:02] <jfdbmi_> in home folder?
[04:02] <jfdbmi_> doesn't for me for some unknown reason
[04:03] <jfdbmi_> here is the line I get Connecting people.ubuntu.com|1.0.0.0|:80...
[04:03] <jfdbmi_> and then no key
[04:03] <Dr_willis> Connecting to people.ubuntu.com|82.211.81.132|:80... connected.
[04:03] <Dr_willis> why are you getting 1.0.0.0
[04:03] <jfdbmi_> I don't know
[04:04] <jfdbmi_> how to resolve this?
[04:04] <Dr_willis> sounds like a dns issue. or somthing
[04:04] <h3sp4wn> use the ubuntu-keyserver ?
[04:04] <jfdbmi_> I use ADSL router
[04:04] <Dr_willis> wget http://~82.211.81.132/jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[04:04] <Dr_willis> oops typo
[04:04] <Sethie> Silly question... Can you install Kubuntu with the Kubuntu live CD?
[04:04] <Skrot> ~? :)
[04:04] <Dr_willis> wget http://82.211.81.132/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[04:05] <Dr_willis> Sethie,  yes
[04:05] <jfdbmi_> ok let me try
[04:05] <Sethie> How? It didn't show up in the boot menu, Dr_willis
[04:05] <h3sp4wn> Sethie: link on the desktop
[04:05] <Skrot> Sethie: Boot the live CD and clock the "Install" link on desktop :)
[04:05] <Dr_willis> Sethie,  look on the desktop for the icon named "INstall to hard drive" :)
[04:05] <Skrot> Really neat way of installing Kubuntu.
[04:05] <Sethie> Hmmm
[04:05] <Dr_willis> Too bad the installer itself is a little on the dumb side
[04:06] <Sethie> The desktop is pretty empty? :/
[04:06] <Skrot> you have to acctually let it start KDE and stuff, Sethie :)
[04:06] <Skrot> hum.. old livecd?
[04:06] <Dr_willis> That would be my gyess
[04:06] <Sethie> 2004 december something something
[04:06] <Dr_willis> its a recent addation to the final cd's
[04:06] <Sethie> aah
[04:06] <Skrot> Dr_willis: The pyqt/pykde thingy?
[04:06] <Dr_willis> so get a newer live cd
[04:06] <Sethie> Ok, I'll download one of the latest cd's :) Thanks guys
[04:06] <jfdbmi_> Hurrah I got it thanks Dr_willis
[04:07] <Dr_willis> Mepis did have a smarter/nicer livecd-installer script
[04:07] <Sethie> And how can this 2 years old Kubuntu be working on a 64-Bit processor?
[04:07] <h3sp4wn> the knoppix / kanotix one I think is the best
[04:07] <Skrot> Sethie: AMD or Intel?
[04:07] <Dr_willis> a 64bit cpu can run 32bit disrtos just fine
[04:07] <Dr_willis> I do it all the time
[04:07] <Skrot> mhm
[04:07] <Dr_willis> It can even run DOS.
[04:07] <h3sp4wn> Dr_willis: Not itanium
[04:08] <Sethie> Skrot: AMD
[04:08] <Sethie> Ah right, makes sense... :D
[04:08] <Dr_willis> well itaniums are stupd then :P  No wonder no one likes them.
[04:08] <Dr_willis> and their momma dresses them funny.
[04:09] <h3sp4wn> Pentium Pro's were good for 32 bit (but bad for 16) - may as well just use a 64 bit os on a 64 bit chip
[04:09] <Skrot> Any reason why *ubuntu choose usplash over fbsplash/gensplash btw?
[04:10] <Dr_willis> I disable the splash anyway. :P
[04:10] <Dr_willis> proberly it was more convient.
[04:10] <Skrot> hehe
[04:10] <Dr_willis> i think edgy is going to some other splash system
[04:10] <Skrot> nope, I asked
[04:10] <Skrot> it'll still use usplash afaik
[04:10] <Dr_willis> There was some wiki/talk in the channel the other day about it..
[04:10] <h3sp4wn> I think splashy looks the bet
[04:10] <Skrot> hum
[04:10] <Dr_willis> but i disable splash anyway.. so i dident pay aggention
[04:11] <Skrot> I like fbsplash.. havent tried splashy though
[04:11] <jfdbmi__> this is what i got when i did apt-key add
[04:12] <jfdbmi__> gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[04:12] <jfdbmi__> OK
[04:12] <Skrot> h3sp4wn: Does splashy allow framebuffer with images in normal console?
[04:12] <Skrot> Or is it just for boot process?
[04:13] <h3sp4wn> Skrot: What do you mean ? what images do you want in the framebuffer ?
[04:13] <Dr_willis> console with images? seen that in a few live cd's - makes the console very unuseable. :P
[04:13] <Skrot> Mine is very usable
[04:14] <Skrot> Let me grab a screenshot :)
[04:14] <Dr_willis> i find it annoying that GPM isent installed by default
[04:14] <Dr_willis> then again - i find hte framebuffer console - to cause more problems then it solves.
[04:14] <Dr_willis> and it sure slowed down my gentoo instlls on my old box's :)
[04:15] <Dr_willis> Then i discovered DistCC :)
[04:17] <Skrot> http://folk.ntnu.no/romnes/fbconsole.png like that :)
[04:17] <DaSkreech> jfdbmi___: I think that may be normal
[04:18] <Dr_willis> better not be a screen shot from goatese :)
[04:18] <Skrot> It's 1024x768 though. Couldn't get 1280x800 fb on my laptop :(
[04:19] <Skrot> haha, it's not
[04:19] <Dr_willis> nasty in my oponion. :P
[04:19] <Skrot> hehe
[04:19] <Acc> how the hell, sorry, does the kde-screensaver work? it just doesn't want to work
[04:19] <Dr_willis> Ill stick with my black bg and green text. :)
[04:20] <Skrot> hehe, that works too. I was just kinda bored and then I found out about fbsplash so I gave it a shot
[04:21] <Acc> can anyone help me with the screensaver?
[04:21] <Skrot> Green on black always give me a 1980s feel though :p
[04:21] <stuq> hi all
[04:21] <zen> hey
[04:21] <stuq> is there any way to disable live mode when installing kubuntu?
[04:21] <proog> my friend has a problem with his kubuntu installation: every time kubuntu boots, it runs dosfsck (i think), thus slowing the booting down a lot. is there a solution for this problem?
[04:21] <stuq> like... go back to the old way
[04:22] <stuq> the live session running off the CD is very slow and buggy
[04:22] <Dr_willis> is he shutting down properly?
[04:22] <Dr_willis> i found the live cd to work ok. :P for its job.
[04:22] <proog> Dr_willis: talking to me?
[04:22] <stuq> well, the mouse response is very slow
[04:23] <stuq> it keeps trying to access the CD before it does anything
[04:23] <Dr_willis> proog,  yes.
[04:23] <proog> he is shutting down properly, yes
[04:23] <Dr_willis> stuq,  a swap partition on the hard drive helps it greatly.
[04:23] <stuq> boot: option?
[04:24] <Dr_willis> proog,  is he using that ext2 filesstem tool under windows?  if you use that and windows crashes - the linux drive is marked unclean and is checked.
[04:24] <Acc> i'll ask one more time: has anybody a working screensaver?
[04:24] <Skrot> I have a working screensaver
[04:24] <proog> Dr_willis: no he doesn't
[04:24] <Acc> mine doesn't start
[04:24] <zen> yeah mine works fine
[04:24] <Skrot> Are you trying to use a screensaver that needs opengl?
[04:25] <Acc> no, standards only
[04:25] <_Shade_> hi there
[04:25] <zen> do any of them work
[04:25] <Acc> i put the cross into checkbox:start wautomatical and so on
[04:25] <Skrot> Tried "test", Acc?
[04:25] <_Shade_> anyone knows how can i play realplayer movies in kaffeine ?
[04:26] <Acc> yes, testing works just fine, it does not want to start, when i leave pc
[04:26] <Acc> i already read about Videogroup and added my user to this group, still no working screensaver
[04:27] <Skrot> weird
[04:27] <zen> hmmm
[04:27] <_Shade_> !realplayer
[04:27] <zen> how  long has the install been in the system for
[04:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:27] <zen> noice
[04:28] <Acc> mh, i'm despairing here with the easiest
[04:28] <Acc> smallest details
[04:28] <Acc> :)
[04:29] <zen> yeah with good reason
[04:29] <zen> never seen that sort of error before
[04:29] <zen> do movies play ok
[04:29] <stuq> this is nuts
[04:29] <stuq> is there a way to go back to the txt-based install
[04:29] <stuq> this is taking forever
[04:29] <h3sp4wn> use the alternative cd
[04:30] <Acc> yes, i have a suspicion though
[04:30] <Acc> my optical mouse could be to sensitive?
[04:30] <_Shade_> does anyone know how to help me ?
[04:31] <Acc> or its configuration
[04:31] <Dr_willis> _Shade_,  follow that !realplayer wiki url yet and read?
[04:31] <Acc> i can try... ill leave the mouse on its back now
[04:31] <zen> tyurn the mouse over so it cant see anyting
[04:31] <Acc> :)))
[04:31] <zen> good ide
[04:31] <Acc> thx
[04:32] <_Shade_> Dr_willis: i already did it - it doesn't help
[04:32] <Acc> i'll be back ;)
[04:32] <zen> coolios
[04:32] <_Shade_> Dr_willis: any other ideas ?
[04:33] <zen> _Shade_:  whats the problem again
[04:34] <_Shade_> zen: kaffeine doesn't play my realplayer movies
[04:34] <zen> oki and you have the licences for them not all real player is able to play due to licence requirements
[04:35] <Acc> hm... i'll try more things, c u soon
[04:35] <zen> some are issues due to the site the file came from
[04:36] <zen> do youknow if it works without a internet connection to play it in windows i ssume you have tried windows to test itis working
[04:37] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. wife cant use the skype  phone while i am downloading torrents. :(
[04:37] <Dr_willis> it makes her connection all  flakey
[04:37] <zen> can happen
[04:37] <zen> i dont liek the tracker
[04:37] <Dr_willis> well boo hoo for you. :P
[04:37] <zen> lol
[04:37] <zen> thanks
[04:37] <stuq> zen try gizmoproject
[04:38] <stuq> gizmoproject.com
[04:38] <Dr_willis> Its handy for disrto isos.
[04:38] <Dr_willis> :P
[04:38] <zen> i have all i need right now and my dl box is doing nicely on  its own
[04:38] <Dr_willis> You need more!
[04:38] <zen> lol
[04:38] <Dr_willis> Must have Eye candy!
[04:39] <zen> what 700 gig of files is not enough files
[04:39] <_Shade_> zen: "there was a problem during loading a cook.so.6.0 library"
[04:39] <Dr_willis> ya gotta reforamt and reinstall to upgrade to kde 3.5.4.000000000000000000000000000001
[04:39] <glj12> still no sound on my lappy. =(
[04:39] <tgentry> What file holds the commands to start kde?
[04:40] <h3sp4wn> /usr/bin/startkde ?
[04:40] <Skrot> startkde methinks
[04:40] <tgentry> thanks
[04:40] <Skrot> or what he said
[04:40] <Skrot> :)
[04:40] <tgentry> is it configurable?
[04:40] <tgentry> lol
[04:40] <h3sp4wn> its just a shellscript so yes
[04:41] <zen> pm _Shade_
[04:41] <glj12> anyone else here have kubuntu on their laptop with no sound?
[04:41] <tgentry> I have kubuntu on my Dell running edgy  with sound
[04:41] <tgentry> oh no sound...sorry
[04:42] <Skrot> which dell?
[04:42] <glj12> hmm
[04:42] <glj12> i have a gateway mx3230
[04:42] <zen> youcant hear me can you _Shade_
[04:42] <tgentry> Latitude d610
[04:43] <Skrot> tgentry: What does lspci | grep -i audio say?
[04:43] <zen> i asked what file is it exactly
[04:43] <glj12> let me try
[04:43] <Acc> no chance
[04:43] <Acc> no screensaver
[04:43] <zen> dam
[04:43] <Skrot> My screensaver started after 5mins, even locked the screen if I told it to
[04:43] <glj12> 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
[04:43] <tgentry> Skrot 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[04:44] <_Shade_> zen: no i can't
[04:44] <zen> thought so
[04:44] <Skrot> glj12: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25980
[04:44] <zen> yah i am
[04:44] <glj12> Skrot: does that mean much to you? lol
[04:44] <glj12> ok
[04:45] <Skrot> tgentry: That soundcard uses snd_intel8x0m module..  it's probably been blacklisted
[04:46] <tgentry> hmm ok how do i go about stopping kde from auto starting when I boot Kubuntu?
[04:46] <tgentry> but I want to manually start it
[04:46] <Skrot> Check out /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist -- see if it says anything about snd_intel8x0m
[04:46] <_Shade_> zen: you can
[04:46] <tgentry> Skrot: my card works fine
[04:46] <_Shade_> sorry
[04:46] <Skrot> oh
[04:46] <Skrot> hehe
[04:46] <_Shade_> zen: you can't see me either i suppose
[04:46] <Skrot> you said you had it running with no sound?
[04:47] <tgentry> no I had sound someone else said they didnt
[04:47] <h3sp4wn> tgentry: use sysv-rc-conf to stop kdm running (remove from all run levels)
[04:47] <Skrot> tgentry: Damn, I didn't read the lines before you said you had kubuntu with edgy etc
[04:49] <BigIron> Good morning!
[04:49] <tgentry> ok so where is that conf file located..
[04:49] <Skrot> If you don't want KDE started at boot you probably want to disable KDM
[04:49] <Junis> BigIron: It's 16:49, Good Afternoon :)
[04:50] <fdoving> tgentry: 'sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove' to stop kdm from starting at boot.
[04:50] <tgentry> tahnks fdoving
[04:51] <tgentry> thanks even
[04:52] <fdoving> tgentry: to get it back: 'sudo update-rc.d kdm defaults'
[04:52] <fdoving> might put that in a notes.txt for later use :)
[04:52] <Skrot> fdoving: Is there a easy way to do that to all services? I once screwed up my rc.d so bad that reboot and halt didn't work.
[04:52] <tgentry> yes just did thanks a million
[04:53] <fdoving> Skrot: get them back to defaults?
[04:53] <Skrot> yes
[04:53] <fdoving> Skrot: restore a backup of /etc :)
[04:53] <Skrot> hehe
[04:53] <Skrot> Didn't make one :)
[04:53] <Skrot> So I reinstalled
[04:53] <fdoving> Skrot: well.. the problem is not all the startup scripts should be set to defaults.
[04:53] <BigIron> A flash plug-in download has lockked up my synaptic program , everytime I try to use it I get a message to run dpkg --configure -a which stalls. How do I fix this?
[04:53] <Skrot> I see
[04:53] <zorglu_> q. any body succeed to uses the webcam with kopete to talk with msn people ?
[04:53] <Skrot> BigIron: Run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" in konsole
[04:54] <fdoving> Skrot: however, setting everything to defaults will probably let you start the box.
[04:54] <BigIron> I'll try that.
[04:54] <Skrot> fdoving: starting it wasn't a problem. But whenever I typed "reboot" or "halt" nothing happened :)
[04:54] <Skrot> as sudo/real su ofcourse
[04:54] <fdoving> Skrot: ah. nice one. :)
[04:54] <Skrot> indeed
[04:55] <|lostbyte|> Where do i view processor details ?
[04:55] <h3sp4wn> (I have that problem at the moment if I run init 0 or halt it just kills all processes but doesn't unmount any filesystems etc - not got round to fixing it as init 6 works fine)
[04:55] <fdoving> |lostbyte|: /proc/cpuinfo
[04:55] <Skrot> |lostbyte|: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[04:56] <Skrot> There's also some info in /sys/devices/system/cpu/ if you want to know about speedstepping and such
[04:57] <llxcamxll> would some one be able to help me??
[04:57] <BigIron> When I run dpkg in konsole it promts for password then shows "Downloading" and goes no farther.
[04:57] <ZEN2> i had that
[04:57] <ZEN2> i just waited longer
[04:58] <Skrot> BigIron: You're trying to download flashplugin-nonfree?
[04:58] <ZEN2> i waited 5 hours and suddenly it showed it was finished and sucessfully installed
[04:58] <BigIron> Yes
[04:58] <BigIron> 5 hours wow
[04:58] <tgentry> ahh thats another question how do i clean up apt. I had some downloads that didnt complete or where broke and everytime I update or add new software it tells me not all where installed
[04:58] <Skrot> BigIron: I had some problems with that one as well. Just ended up "sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree" and downloaded and installed manually from adobe
[04:58] <llxcamxll> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[04:58] <llxcamxll> wtf is that
[04:59] <h3sp4wn> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:59] <tgentry> yeah thats my error lol
[04:59] <llxcamxll> lol
[04:59] <h3sp4wn> sudo aptitude clean && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[05:00] <|lostbyte|> fdoving, Skrot; thanks
[05:01] <tgentry> ok then theres this question.. are these commands in the system help ?
[05:01] <Sevenhill> hi
[05:01] <Sevenhill> how can i overcome this problem ?
[05:01] <Sevenhill> Failed to fetch http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kde4libs/kde4libs-data_3.80.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb  Size mismatch
[05:02] <Sevenhill> Failed to fetch http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kde4libs/kde4libs-data_3.80.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb  Size mismatch
[05:02] <Sevenhill> Failed to fetch http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kdepimlibs/kdepimlibs-data_3.80.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb  Size mismatch
[05:02] <Skrot> we get the idea, Sevenhill :p
[05:02] <Sevenhill> Failed to fetch http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kdepimlibs/kdepimlibs4-dev_3.80.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb  Size mismatch
[05:03] <Sevenhill> only 3 of that files give error
[05:03] <fdoving> try another mirror.
[05:04] <zorglu_> does 'apt-get update' help ?
[05:05] <tgentry> hmm the apt clean and update still didnt get rid of my clam antivrus broke messages
[05:05] <Sevenhill> so
[05:05] <Sevenhill> how can i fix that
[05:05] <Sevenhill> fdoving:  how can i set the which mirror will be used for apt-get
[05:05] <h3sp4wn> tgentry: sudo aptitude purge ~B
[05:05] <|lostbyte|> Where do i look for bugs concerning kubuntu ?
[05:05] <reisi> how does one turn off automatic spell checking in kde?
[05:06] <trappist> Sevenhill: you specify it in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:06] <tgentry> will try that
[05:06] <trappist> reisi: in kde?  that's a per-app setting iirc
[05:06] <h3sp4wn> tgentry: sudo aptitude purge \~B (with zsh)
[05:07] <tgentry> hmm
[05:09] <tgentry> still no go...but actually reading it it said I havent configured clam antivirus? When I run it it says its up to date...
[05:09] <tgentry> do i need antivirus with linux?
[05:10] <zorglu_> tgentry: unlikely
[05:10] <zorglu_> clam antivirus is mainly for parsing emails when you run a mail server
[05:10] <tgentry> ahh
[05:10] <tgentry> ok wow learning a lot today...he he
[05:11] <zorglu_> cool :)
[05:11] <tgentry> now lets see if add/remove works...lol
[05:12] <llxcamxll> can i add reps that aren't already added in the rep manager?
[05:12] <zorglu_> llxcamxll: yes
[05:13] <tgentry> thanks a lot guys you all have helped me a lot. going to reboot and see if all is well...bbiab
[05:13] <zorglu_> llxcamxll: if you do, dont forget to do 'sudo apt-get update' afterward, it update the local cache of the repositories content
[05:14] <llxcamxll> where would be a good place to find other reps?
[05:14] <h3sp4wn> There are not many of any use
[05:15] <h3sp4wn> (that won't break things badly if you want to upgrade to edgy)
[05:17] <llxcamxll> so what other sorta content can be found in other reps?
[05:18] <llxcamxll> like games?
[05:22] <ZEN2> what do they mean by universe
[05:23] <LjL> !universe
[05:23] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:24] <ZEN2> thankyou
[05:27] <|lostbyte|> !uharc
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uharc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <|lostbyte|> !uha
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uha - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <|lostbyte|> !find uha
[05:27] <ubotu> File uha found in mc
[05:27] <|lostbyte|> !mc
[05:27] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2073 kB, installed size 5952 kB
[05:28] <Sevenhill> hi again
[05:28] <Sevenhill> it is same with other mirrors
[05:28] <Sevenhill> :((
[05:28] <Sevenhill> Failed to fetch http://en.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kde4libs/kde4libs-data_3.80.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb  Size mismatch
[05:29] <tgentry> ok im back and everything seem to work well thanks again to all that helped me :)
[05:40] <zorglu_> Sevenhill: tried to do 'sudo apt-get update'
[05:40] <m3xican> yawn...
[05:46] <Film905> I need a linux equivilant to windows hyper-terminal, any suggestions?
[05:47] <Skrot> Film905: For what purpose?
[05:47] <Skrot> I seem to remember that hyper-terminal did ftp connections as well as serial connections
[05:47] <Skrot> err, telnet, not ftp
[05:50] <x-demon> hi all
[05:51] <x-demon> i need help
[05:52] <ep> Just built Qt 4.1.4 Need to set path in my environment variables.  Qt readme says to edit the profile.  What's the "kubuntu way" extend the environment variables?
[05:52] <x-demon> when i starting kubuntu i doesnt see anything
[05:53] <Dr_willis> starting the live cd? the installcd? or did you get it installed.
[05:53] <x-demon> after installing
[05:53] <Dr_willis> Film905,  connecting to a BBS?
[05:53] <joeri> hellow
[05:54] <ep> I'm from windows -- just built Qt because i need the latest version (sorry) --  Do I need to  RTFM and go thru mailinglists and online forums just to set an environment variable?
[05:55] <Dr_willis> export WHATEVER=whatever in the .bashrc or similer file..
[05:55] <mattik> Hello. How I get keyboard running in flash games with Dapper and firefox?
[05:55] <zorglu_> ep: i hope you know what you are doing, updating qt from source is known to be very hard
[05:56] <x-demon> hey doctor ^)
[05:56] <ep> why?
[05:56] <zorglu_> ep: because it is :)
[05:56] <Dr_willis> x-demon,  you see the login message? or any boot messages? 'dont see anything' is vague.
[05:56] <x-demon> no, i doesnt see ANYTHING
[05:56] <zorglu_> ep: experimented people like kde4 dev have issue with it... so up to you to see
[05:56] <ep> no errors or warning on the build :-)
[05:57] <x-demon> i looks like...
[05:57] <x-demon> *it
[05:57] <x-demon> my monitor supports 60 gerz, maybe server selects 70?
[05:58] <Hawkwind> !info boost edgy
[05:58] <ubotu> Package boost does not exist in edgy
[05:58] <Hawkwind> !find boost
[05:58] <ubotu> Found: libboost-dev, libboost-python-dev, libboost-python1.33.1, boost-build, libboost-date-time-dev (and 21 others)
[05:58] <LjL> new factoid
[05:58] <LjL> !nothing
[05:58] <ubotu> Saying "I don't see anything", or "It says nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you just see a black screen, say so, if you just see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an error message, say so, etc.
[05:59] <Skrot> Film905: Try cutecom
[06:00] <gratis> when will be realesed next kubuntu? i`ll get next holiday from work
[06:01] <LjL> !schedule
[06:01] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[06:01] <_xangel_> query nick
[06:01] <Dr_willis> x-demon,   so you dont even see any boot screen messages?  if so.. then.. thats real odd.. you hear the drives spin up? hear a startup sound?
[06:02] <LjL> x-demon: and, does the monitor go to standby?
[06:02] <zorglu_> gratis: be aware that right around those date the servers go very slow due to the sudden amount of people using them :)
[06:03] <zorglu_> gratis: i mean forsee like 3-4 week after the release to get nice fast servers, or you will spend your hollyday looking at the installer :)
[06:03] <x-demon> i must go
[06:03] <x-demon> see later
[06:03] <Dr_willis> heh - or upgrade the day befor the release..
[06:04] <Dr_willis> install an older version, then upgrade.
[06:04] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: interesting stragegy :)
[06:04] <gratis> zorglu_ i use bittorrent, man
[06:04] <Dr_willis> zorglu_,  darn! now everyone will do it!
[06:04] <Dr_willis> :P
[06:04] <Dr_willis> bittorrents are good for this
[06:04] <zorglu_> yep but limited to the cd :)
[06:04] <Dr_willis> how about a distributed apt-get system. :)
[06:04] <zorglu_> gratis: you see, man ? :)
[06:05] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: in the pipe :)
[06:05] <gratis> zorglu_ - so 19th october
[06:05] <mark__> I have installed kubuntu and think it is great (bye bye windoze soon) How do I change the screen resolution? I have gone to the settings page, and the highest it will go is 800 * 600
[06:05] <Dr_willis> i mentioned that the other day to guys at work for ms updated and stuff and they were 'how do you make sure they aint been messed with" - im like.. gee your MMORPG games are allready doing the same thing.
[06:05] <mark__> anyone help?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> mark__,  whats your video card?
[06:06] <gratis> another note in my calendar
[06:06] <mark__> hang on
[06:06] <gratis> is kubuntu realeases on the same day day (g)ubuntu?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> gratis,  most likely
[06:11] <gratis> are there edgy-efty wallpapers from from latest edgy eft version?
[06:12] <mark__> it is a nvidia geforce fx5700
[06:13] <Dr_willis> did yuo install the nvidia drivers yet? following the !nvidia guide?
[06:13] <mark__> must dash - phone call back asap
[06:13] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[06:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:13] <mark__> ok ta
[06:13] <mark__> many thanks
[06:17] <tmatton> hello
[06:17] <tmatton> exit
[06:18] <mark__> right, sorry about that, I just checked the video card, it is an fx5200 - PCI - 256Mb
[06:18] <mark__> what was that configuration site again please?
[06:18] <Dr_willis> nvidia is nvidia. :P install the !nvidia stuff
[06:18] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[06:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:19] <mark__> thanks
[06:22] <zorglu_> q. how do i make the desktop to refresh more frequently with the ~/Desktop directory ?
[06:24] <Dr_willis> never noticed. :) i tend to not show any icons on the desktop
[06:24] <Dr_willis> More clutter
[06:24] <Dr_willis> lol
[06:25] <zorglu_> yep but i do funny thing with this :)
[06:25] <zorglu_> and vlc doesnt record my sound...
[06:25] <stam> kaneis apo ellada?
[06:25] <zorglu_> !es
[06:25] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:25] <LjL> that's greek
[06:25] <zorglu_> ok :)
[06:25] <zorglu_> !gr
[06:25] <LjL> !gr
[06:25] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr   
[06:26] <LjL> hmm
[06:26] <zorglu_> a lot more funny characteres in greek :)
[06:26] <stam> ellas?
[06:26] <LjL> !gr
[06:26] <ubotu> gr is #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia ellhnes xrhstes
[06:26] <zorglu_> stam: we speak english here
[06:27] <zorglu_> stam: we dont understand you
[06:27] <zorglu_> what language are you using ?
[06:27] <zorglu_> q. how do i know which sound system, my kde is using ?
[06:27] <stam> greek
[06:28] <zorglu_> the control center says 'autodetect'
[06:28] <zorglu_> !el
[06:28] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia ellhnes xrhstes
[06:28] <zorglu_> is that better ?
[06:29] <stam> ok
[06:29] <zorglu_> apparently so :)
[06:29] <abattoir> !repos
[06:29] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:37] <fleissigfiona> my ark isnt working, it says it can't start a subprocess. What is wrong
[06:38] <LjL> !el
[06:38] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia ellhnes xrhstes
[06:38] <LjL> let's put the accents right =) (assuming they are)
[06:38] <zorglu_> :)
[06:39] <gratis> my edgy-efty wallpaper: http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=edgyeftmd1.jpg (1280x1024)
[06:42] <Dr_willis> a red spotted newt
[06:42] <Dr_willis> Illeagle to buy/sale in this state
[06:43] <gratis> Dr_willis so edgy eft will be nobodys :D
[06:43] <pielgrzym> anyone using usplash here? :)
[06:43] <ubuntu_> hi
[06:43] <Dr_willis> I can buy/sale a King-Cobra.. but i cant buy/sale a red spotted newt..or bullfrog, or Spadefoot toad
[06:44] <gratis> Dr_willis got you point of view
[06:44] <Dr_willis> the State Gov. decided about 2 years ago ti make it illeagle to buy/sale native amphfibians.. for some reason..
[06:45] <ile> hi
[06:45] <ile> can any one tell me what is the best program for watching tv so I can install it
[06:46] <Dr_willis> mythtv is nice
[06:46] <Dr_willis> vlc can also use a tv tuner card.. but never messed with it.
[06:46] <Dr_willis> many of the other media players can as well.
[06:46] <ile> aha
[06:47] <ile> is there any possibility to use the remote contrelo too?
[06:47] <zorglu_> q. is the ubuntu freeze already done ?
[06:47] <LjL> !schedule
[06:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[06:47] <LjL> zorglu_: short answer: partly
[06:48] <zorglu_> ok thanks
[06:50] <fleissigfiona> i found this deb thing (http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb) how do i add it to my repositories
[06:51] <Dr_willis> !dvd
[06:51] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:51] <Dr_willis> fleissigfiona,  read that last url. same package.. ubuntu speficif however
[06:51] <Dr_willis> specific
[06:52] <ile> Dr_willis: is there any possibility to use the remote control too?
[06:52] <fleissigfiona> ok, thank you
[06:52] <Dr_willis> ile,  theres always a possibility.
[06:52] <ile> :)
[06:52] <Dr_willis> but it depends on the hardwarew and how much work you put into it.
[06:52] <ile> I like that answer
[06:53] <ile> I ment if there is a program already
[06:53] <x-demon> ok im here
[06:53] <Dr_willis> No idea.. i aint google. :P
[06:53] <x-demon> i see strange lines
[06:53] <LjL> ile: for what card?
[06:53] <Dr_willis> some remotes can work with linux.
[06:53] <Dr_willis> it depends on the remote.
[06:53] <x-demon> green/black green/blacks
[06:55] <x-demon> any ideas?
[06:55] <scion> hello
[06:56] <software_> ayuda en espaol por favor
[06:56] <Dr_willis> Hmm
[06:56] <Dr_willis> !es
[06:56] <scion> !es
[06:56] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:56] <scion> got there first Dr_willis!
[06:56] <Dr_willis> !elvis
[06:56] <ubotu> elvis: powerful clone of the vi/ex text editor (with X11 support). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.0-5 (dapper), package size 298 kB, installed size 720 kB
[06:56] <Dr_willis> No you dident! i did!
[06:57] <Dr_willis> i aint even seen you type yet! :)
[06:57] <scion> [17:56]  <scion> !es
[06:57] <proger> !automatix
[06:57] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[06:57] <Dr_willis> [12:56]  <Dr_Willis> !es
[06:58] <Dr_willis> see i was 5 hrs ahead of ya! :P
[06:58] <x-demon> hey doctor
[06:58] <scion> yeah yeah lol
[06:58] <Dr_willis> Howdy
[06:58] <ile> .j lugola
[06:59] <eeos> hi there anyone who knows about a good cad package under kubuntu?
[06:59] <Dr_willis> qcad is nice.
[06:59] <Dr_willis> but it depends on your needs
[07:00] <Dr_willis> NOt even sure what other linux cad programs exist
[07:01] <mark__> Brilliant - Thats better thanks chaps!
[07:01] <eeos> Dr_willis yes i am using qcad, but some of the commands are evry convoluted
[07:01] <Dr_willis> thats part of the cad world. :P
[07:01] <Dr_willis> alli do with cad is layouts of my house and so forth
[07:02] <ile> LjL: the TV card is from Kworld match ot smth
[07:02] <mark__> I have a plantronics headset and a soundblaster sound card, sometimes when Kubuntu starts the sound only comes from the headset, how do I fix this, any ideas?
[07:03] <Dr_willis> twiddle with the mixersliders?
[07:12] <mark__> excellent - two problems solved already ! Hope it stays the same next time I start Kubuntu. So much nicer to get away from windoze
[07:13] <mark__> Yup
[07:13] <mark__> Bit of Hawkind for a test....
[07:13] <lupine_85> nice :)
[07:13] <lupine_85> oh... http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/snapshot3.png
[07:13] <lupine_85> (snapshot1 and snapshot2 also exist)
[07:14] <mark__> now as my mates use msn to chat with voice, is there a way to use voice with kopete or a similar, I know about sip phone but mate wont use it, he trusts Gates too much?
[07:15] <abattoir> mark__: skype is an option
[07:15] <abattoir> mark__: and i think amsn supports voice... not sure though
[07:15] <Dr_willis> I got my wife a Skype Phone. :P
[07:15] <Dr_willis> so she can just dial and talk
[07:17] <mark__> he wont use skype ! I used voipcheap for ages, it was free o phone but they changes it. He jst wants to use messenger all the time. I have got so I can type to him, would be nice to speak to him from Kubuntu as well, thats the only thing stopping me from dumping windoze  totally..
[07:17] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: kopete and decibell tries to make it happen... slowly :)
[07:17] <Dr_willis> i get annoyed at being everyones "IM Tech support" guy at work. :P
[07:17] <Dr_willis> i dont even use the programs.. and they are likle "What do you use then?"
[07:18] <Dr_willis> "I use IRC!"
[07:18] <Dr_willis> and no its NOT called 'mIRC' :)
[07:18] <zorglu_> :)
[07:18] <mark__> I looked at IRC, does it goto Messenger with voice?
[07:18] <Dr_willis> then they know to leave me alone for a while.. since i am foaming at the mouth by that time.
[07:19] <cpk2> lol
[07:19] <mark__> I have been at this Linux cinversion now for 3 weeks and loving every minute of it!
[07:19] <mark__> converesion as well!
[07:19] <Dr_willis> one pervert. wanted to know how to record these webcam videos he was watching to dvd. :P
[07:20] <zorglu_> mark__: evil keyboard :)
[07:22] <dhq> hey all
[07:22] <dhq> i have a problem some keys on my key board sont work
[07:23] <h3sp4wn> !xmodmap
[07:23] <ubotu> xmodmap: X input map modification. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.0-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 18 kB, installed size 76 kB
[07:23] <trappist> dhq: like the d?
[07:24] <josh__> how do you install themes? i cant find the option.. lol
[07:24] <dhq> trappist: my single cotes dosnt work the functions key the windows key many more
[07:25] <borisyeltsin> I need some way to slow down an mp3 that is playing. Any suggestions?
[07:25] <zorglu_> alsaplayer does it
[07:25] <borisyeltsin> isn't that command line?
[07:26] <zorglu_> it is the name of the programm doing it
[07:26] <zorglu_> no time to explain more sorry
[07:26] <borisyeltsin> ok.. I'll check it out.
[07:26] <borisyeltsin> thanks
[07:26] <josh__> how do you install themes? i cant find the option.. lol
[07:27] <MetaMorfoziS> why possible to my keyboard after a while stops working
[07:27] <dhq> h3sp4wn: i have the lates version of xmod map
[07:27] <borisyeltsin> SCORE!
[07:27] <h3sp4wn> well use it then to set your keys read a howto
[07:27] <MetaMorfoziS> my "ko.ml" buttons after a while stop functioning
[07:27] <borisyeltsin> thanks zorglu1
[07:27] <MetaMorfoziS> this is a ntoebook
[07:27] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i debug it?
[07:27] <MetaMorfoziS> please answer fast, before my keys stops working?
[07:27] <zorglu_> borisyeltsin: cool :0
[07:27] <MetaMorfoziS> !
[07:30] <dhq> h3sp4wn: i cant understan it
[07:30] <josh__> how do you install themes in kubuntu?
[07:30] <albacker> isn't there a hibernate option on kubuntu ?
[07:30] <dhq> albacker:yes
[07:31] <albacker> dhq, where ?
[07:31] <dhq> !apci
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:32] <dhq> !acpi
[07:32] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[07:32] <albacker> dhq, what does that mean  ?
[07:32] <dhq> albacker: install the acpi and then check the options in your power settings
[07:32] <albacker> dhq, ubuntu has hibernate when you shut down the PC, kubuntu doesn't ..
[07:32] <albacker> dhq, ah ok..
[07:33] <heXLer> Hi, my root certificates in Firefox are missing and now ff asks at every site if I want to accept a certificate because it can't check it. I already tried to reinstall ff but the missing certificates weren't fixed .. any solutions? :|
[07:34] <|lostbyte|> !xev
[07:34] <ubotu> xev: X client - xev. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 11 kB, installed size 68 kB
[07:36] <|lostbyte|> !keycodes
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keycodes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <scheuri> hi all
[07:40] <Slynderdale> Hmm, anyone here have any "must have" applications on LInux/(K)Ubunto that isn't package my default?
[07:41] <dhq> is there a way to scan and restore dead keys in kubuntu automatically
[07:42] <geoff270> join /amule
[07:42] <mark__> Where di I find AMSN?
[07:42] <geoff270> join # amule
[07:42] <_eol_> Slynderdale: digikam
[07:43] <geoff270> anybody know how I get to amule chat?
[07:43] <Slynderdale> say /join #amule
[07:43] <geoff270> #amule
[07:43] <Slynderdale> with the /join
[07:44] <albacker> geoff270, all you have to type is :
[07:44] <albacker> /join #amule
[07:44] <albacker> copy paste all what i said..
[07:49] <DaSkreech> Skrot: tried telnet ?
[07:51] <DaSkreech> zorglu_: really? a distributed apt-get?
[07:52] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: you can aptitude at least to download more than one thing at once by including multiple repositories with the same files
[07:52] <gratis> who has edgy eft installed? i need new wallpapers from it
[07:56] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: No I can't get it working now (I have had it doing 2 at once though)
[07:57] <josh_> hi
[07:58] <josh_> how do i install a theme?
[07:58] <dhq_> cant get these dead key workin
[07:59] <DaSkreech> Slynderdale: Yakuake
[08:00] <dhq_> !deadkeys
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about deadkeys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: That's decidely not distributed :)
[08:00] <dhq_> !dead
[08:00] <josh_> !themes
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dead - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[08:00] <josh_> !changethemes
[08:00] <ubotu> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[08:00] <DaSkreech> josh_: instructions are normally in the theme
[08:00] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: I managed to get it to download off 2 servers at once (but I can't now)
[08:01] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: Oh that kind of distribution
[08:02] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: What do you mean by distributed ? update a large number of machines at once ?
[08:02] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: I would just use my own mirror and cron-apt for that
[08:06] <josh_> hm
[08:06] <josh_> it goes "icons-install-kde.sh" for run the scripts
[08:07] <mark__> how do I read NTFS drives?
[08:09] <gsuveg> mark__: hard.
[08:09] <TheGateKeeper> mark__: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=23836054&forum_id=2697  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481
[08:10] <scheuri> does anyone know of a repo with samba 3.0.23c?
[08:11] <sepp> hello
[08:12] <h3sp4wn> !info samba edgy
[08:12] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 2836 kB, installed size 7200 kB
[08:12] <h3sp4wn> scheuri: debian unstable
[08:12] <scheuri> looks like...hmm...then it means I need to use debian etch
[08:17] <h3sp4wn> or backport it yourself
[08:19] <scheuri> well, yes....would love too...but..
[08:19] <scheuri> there are no skills for that present...;)
[08:20] <h3sp4wn> etch has it as well
[08:20] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: Like bitTorrent
[08:20] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn:  Pull from other users who are willing and have the .deb cached
[08:21] <daftvader> hi
[08:22] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: I think that is a horrible idea (bittorrent causes so much annoying latency for the internet in general)
[08:22] <DaSkreech> !info edgy skreencast
[08:22] <ubotu> Package edgy does not exist in dapper
[08:22] <DaSkreech> !info skreencast
[08:22] <ubotu> Package skreencast does not exist in any distro I know
[08:22] <DaSkreech> !info skreencast edgy
[08:22] <ubotu> Package skreencast does not exist in edgy
[08:22] <daftvader> can anyone tell me how to limit my bash tag? i dont want it to include all the directory that i am in. just the current dir
[08:22] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: I didn't say BitTorrent. but maybe something like it
[08:23] <DaSkreech> It doesn't need to be the main holder of the fles
[08:23] <DaSkreech> daftvader: edit your $PS1 variable
[08:23] <daftvader> eg. james@home:james$    not james@home:/home/james
[08:23] <daftvader> ah
[08:23] <daftvader> ok thank you
[08:23] <daftvader> how do i do that?
[08:23] <daftvader> is it in a bash conf file?
[08:23] <larson9999> the more i hear about vista, the more i'm gonna run
[08:23] <DaSkreech> daftvader: Yes and no :)
[08:24] <daftvader> ;(
[08:24] <DaSkreech> google for bash PS1 and PS2
[08:24] <DaSkreech> it will help sort things out hopefully
[08:24] <daftvader> okie
[08:24] <DaSkreech>  Once you have it the way you want it ask again how to make it permanent ok?
[08:24] <daftvader> thank you
[08:24] <DaSkreech> daftvader: sure
[08:24] <larson9999> for what it's worth, i encountered some pcs on which i couldn't boot gparted live ver 0.2.5.  they all boot with ver 03.3.1-1
[08:25] <DaSkreech> !info screenkast
[08:25] <ubotu> Package screenkast does not exist in any distro I know
[08:25] <DaSkreech> !info screenkast edgy
[08:25] <ubotu> Package screenkast does not exist in edgy
[08:25] <larson9999> DaSkreech: screenkast make ubuntu packages.  check their site.  at least about a month ago, they did
[08:26] <larson9999> i installed from those instructions
[08:26] <DaSkreech> larson9999: how come it doesn't turn up in the bot?
[08:26] <larson9999> DaSkreech: it's on their own server
[08:26] <main2> can anyone tell me how i can turn off the Kaffeine thing in firefox?
[08:27] <larson9999> DaSkreech: it's kind of a chore to try to compile it.
[08:27] <larson9999> so you want the packages imp
[08:28] <DaSkreech> imp?
[08:29] <gratis> is there chance that mp3 lame will be in "resticted" not in "multiverse"? (sounds quite 1557)
[08:30] <DaSkreech> nope multiverse :)
[08:31] <gratis> DaSkreech
[08:31] <DaSkreech> gratis:
[08:31] <gratis> ^ you know what i mena
[08:31] <DaSkreech> I do?
[08:31] <gratis> you know the diferences between repos, man?
[08:31] <DaSkreech> Yes
[08:31] <DaSkreech> And lame is in Multiverse
[08:32] <gratis> i know it man
[08:32] <DaSkreech> Ah ok :)
[08:32] <gratis> i ask about the future
[08:32] <DaSkreech>  So what was the question
[08:32] <gratis> will it be in restricted
[08:32] <azzco> Does anyone else have weird problems with printers?
[08:32] <DaSkreech> Not unless they start freeing up the license around it
[08:32] <Riddell> gratis: no
[08:32] <azzco> I've got a HP PSC 750 that just keeps spitting out paper...
[08:33] <gratis> but in restricted can be all-closed software, but supported by buntu, right man?
[08:33] <daftvader> cool, thanx daskreech, got it working
[08:33] <daftvader> had to edit the ./bashrc file under my home dir
[08:34] <DaSkreech> daftvader: Ok :-) sweet going man
[08:34] <DaSkreech> daftvader: welcome :-)
[08:34] <MDCore> how do I integrate skype into kopete?
[08:34] <gratis> so i don`t see the barriers between better support of lame in buntu what will end in transfer from multiv to restricted
[08:35] <DaSkreech> Riddell: http://static.kdenews.org/jr/akademy-2006-group-photo.html
[08:35] <DaSkreech> heehee
[08:35] <Riddell> DaSkreech: hmm?
[08:35] <DaSkreech> Strigi working on a picture
[08:35] <Riddell> for some definition of Strigi
[08:36] <DaSkreech> Your name is on the search box so of course I assumed you knew about it :(
[08:36] <gratis> DaSkreech wow, so many geeks in one place
[08:36] <gratis> mmm
[08:38] <gratis> one thing what i really like in linux is that that os makes people do great meetings in great atmosphere. i havn`t seen any windows-only parties :D
[08:39] <gsuveg> hehe
[08:39] <DaSkreech> gratis: try ##former-mspengiuns :-)
[08:39] <daftvader> i've seen a doors party
[08:39] <daftvader> but that was back in the 60s
[08:39] <larson9999> azzco: i had that problem with an hp printer.  my printer 'guru' guy at the time told me it was a memory problem and i should get a new printer.  i did google to verify that and found sites saying it was in fact hw issue and the fix was more expensive than getting a new printer.  i can usually find a hp-6l for about $10.  in this case i actually found an hp-2100 tn with a net card installed for only $15.
[08:40] <gsuveg> whats with kde4 ? it come out within one year ?
[08:41] <DaSkreech> gsuveg: It tries to come out about the time it's nearly finished
[08:41] <azzco> THX larson9999
[08:41] <gsuveg> DaSkreech: it release if it finished ? ;)
[08:41] <gronbaek> Do any one know how to "krandrtray"? The option menu just opens a blank window. I'm trying to rotate the screen 90 cc. Is it something to do woth the driver or the X settings?
[08:41] <DaSkreech> gratis: try ##former-mspenguins even
[08:41] <DaSkreech> Nearly :)
[08:42] <gronbaek> *use "krandrtray" it should have said.
[08:42] <azzco> larson9999: I've got a dell printer wich isn't in use I'll try that insted thx for talling me :)
[08:42] <DaSkreech> As soon as it comes out there are going to be blogs all over saying I thought it was to have Feature X where is Feature X?
[08:42] <gsuveg> DaSkreech: u know a roadmap?
[08:42] <larson9999> azzco: keep in mind to me a new printer is a used one for less than $20.  in your case it might not be cheaper to get a new one. i think it was corrupt memory on the mobo but you should be able to google something up.
[08:43] <DaSkreech> Pretty much you can ignore KDE roadmaps :)
[08:43] <DaSkreech>  they make them then spend so much time coding it only gets updated like a week before stuff actually comes out :)
[08:44] <DaSkreech> there should be on on the kde wiki and on developers.kde.org though
[08:45] <gratis> do you, guys, think that making kde port for windows is a good idea?
[08:45] <h3sp4wn> I think making the unix port better would be a better use of time
[08:45] <claydoh> why not?
[08:45] <claydoh> my wife loves, say koffice. It would be cool if she coulfd use it at work
[08:46] <MDCore> I think vmware is the best solution for that.
[08:46] <MDCore> there is a KDE port for windows, sorta, on cygwin
[08:46] <gratis> cygwin is not for gray-ones
[08:46] <MDCore> but what is the point when vmware will run linux distro's "native"
[08:47] <DaSkreech> Well just one off warning that this is going to be asked to be thrown into O-T
[08:47] <max__> error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH | where do i get this C compiler ?
[08:48] <aztun> max_: sudo apt-get install gcc
[08:48] <aztun> sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[08:48] <h3sp4wn> max__: install build-essential
[08:48] <MDCore> that's the one build-essential
[08:48] <claydoh> max__: try installing the package build-essential
[08:48] <DaSkreech> larson9999: what do you mean the packages should be imp?
[08:48] <max__> thank you
[08:49] <larson9999> DaSkreech: i meant 'so you want the packages instead of compiling it imo'
[08:50] <DaSkreech> larson9999: Well yes I had heard that thy were submitted for universe
[08:50] <DaSkreech> So I wanted to know if they had made it in
[08:50] <larson9999> DaSkreech: aha
[08:55] <max__> error: Can't find X includes | have another error.
[08:56] <max__> the build essential worked
[08:57] <max__> whats this x includes ?
[08:59] <Dr_willis> Hmm.
[08:59] <Dr_willis> Just noticed that you cant   cd media:/sdg1/willis/OurPictures_DVD_Work
[08:59] <Dr_willis> :)
[08:59] <Junis> i want to config the system, for load always a module before another module on system start... How can i do that?
[09:00] <intelikey> mind if i post an error?
[09:01] <intelikey> ALSA lib confmisc.c:672:(snd_func_card_driver) cannot find card '0'	::ALSA lib conf.c:3493:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such device	::ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings	::ALSA lib conf.c:3493:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned error: No such device	::ALSA lib confmisc.c:1072:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name	::ALSA lib con
[09:02] <intelikey> probably turncated... it's too long for one line.
[09:02] <intelikey> but does that mean it has to have alsa-utils or something and it's not installed ?
[09:02] <abattoir> intelikey: you know its not right to flood the channel... :(
[09:02] <intelikey> abattoir one line is not a flood
[09:03] <intelikey> not in any channel
[09:03] <cpk2> 6 lines on my screen but who's counting? =P
[09:04] <bobesponja> hey all
[09:04] <bobesponja> where do I put a script I want to execute at boot?
[09:05] <Dr_willis> rc.local normally
[09:05] <intelikey> bobesponja /etc/init.d   link it to /etc/rc?.d/   man update-rc.d for all the details
[09:05] <Dr_willis> depends on when the script needs to run, and what its doing
[09:06] <bobesponja> Dr_willis: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[09:06] <bobesponja> $iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE
[09:06] <bobesponja> this is what it does
[09:06] <Dr_willis> that can eaiaslly go in the rc.local then
[09:07] <DaSkreech> can some one give me a opensource program that's easy to compile and is small?
[09:07] <DaSkreech> No OO.o :)
[09:07] <Dr_willis> there may be a better place for it. but not sure of it.
[09:07] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  helloworld.c ?
[09:07] <bobesponja> ok thanx
[09:07] <Dr_willis> :)
[09:10] <kesara> how can i change the services and runlevels?
[09:11] <kesara> is their something similer to rc-update in gentoo?
[09:11] <LjL> uhm, update-rc.d perhaps?
[09:11] <h3sp4wn> rcconf or sysv-rc-conf
[09:11] <gratis> !release
[09:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[09:12] <cpk2> init doesnt change anything if thats what you are wondering =P
[09:13] <Rambo3> is there any kde theme manager like thing here like in ubuntu
[09:13] <gratis> who will give me link to the picture with dates of approaching of the  versions of edgy?
[09:14] <h3sp4wn> !schedule
[09:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:14] <LjL> Rambo3: kcontrol / appearence and themes / theme manager might be it
[09:14] <gratis> h3sp4wn thanks, just what i`m looking fort
[09:15] <Rambo3> kesara its just easyer to simling and rm sevices
[09:15] <Rambo3> thaks for 5 years of linux never used kde
[09:16] <larson9999> wow.  thunar is kinda nice file manager.
[09:18] <kesara> larson9999: I wan't call it a file manager... :) last time I used.. it has features similer to gtk file open dialog.. :) and nothing more...
[09:20] <trappist> looks like a file manager here
[09:20] <zorglu_> larson9999: url ?
[09:21] <AWOSDev> Eek!
[09:21] <AWOSDev> I'm having a problem with my LAMP installation
[09:21] <AWOSDev> I'm using PHP for the P
[09:21] <AWOSDev> I don't seem to have mysql.so
[09:22] <AWOSDev> Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() in /var/www/phpcart/admin/payment_types.php on line 8
[09:22] <kesara> zorglu_: http://thunar.xfce.org/
[09:22] <Rambo3> AWOSDev: did you start mysqld
[09:22] <AWOSDev> When I did 'locate mysql.so'
[09:22] <AWOSDev> I only found it in the /usr/lib/perl5 and /usr/lib/python2.4
[09:22] <AWOSDev> directories
[09:22] <AWOSDev> Rambo3, yes
[09:22] <kesara> *Thunar* GTK File open dialog with tabs.. :)
[09:23] <AWOSDev> Rambo3 I just created the databases using the MySQL monitor, it better be running :)
[09:23] <AWOSDev> Is there some package that I didn't get that I need?
[09:23] <AWOSDev> I apt-got php5 mysql4.1 and apache2
[09:24] <Rambo3> just fallow the wiki .
[09:24] <AWOSDev> I did
[09:24] <AWOSDev> ooh
[09:24] <AWOSDev> oops
[09:25] <AWOSDev> I missed php5-mysql :P
[09:25] <AWOSDev> okay
[09:25] <AWOSDev> wel
[09:25] <AWOSDev> l
[09:25] <AWOSDev> bye!
[09:26] <lupine_85> t'ra
[09:28] <zorglu_> kesara: i never tried xfce but it seems nice especially if it doesnt use that many rescources
[09:29] <gratis> i`m local activist in my town. i`ll think about something in 26th october
[09:29] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: URL? :-)
[09:30] <azzco> larson9999: I'd just like to tell you that I managed to get a printer to work :) (although the ink was out >_<) THX for the help :)
[09:32] <zorglu_> gratis: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams <- i think you may find this of interest
[09:33] <gratis> zorglu_ thanks, i didn`t know that
[09:33] <lmueller> Need help with Kernel 2.6.18 and S-ATA
[09:40] <h3sp4wn> on edgy or dapper ?
[09:40] <lmueller> dapper
[09:40] <asru> help! where to find extra repositories
[09:41] <Riddell> ** Edgy Beta Released http://kubuntu.org/announcements/edgy-beta.php
[09:41] <h3sp4wn> lmueller: and you have updated udev and sysutils ?
[09:41] <Dr_willis> Hmm. a Long time ago. i rember seeing on KDE a menu item that would take a directory of images and make a nice set of Html index files and thumbnails
[09:41] <Dr_willis> but cant seem to find it now. was it some add on?
[09:41] <cpk2> is there going to be a seamless upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[09:41] <Dr_willis> Upgrades always have potential issues. :P
[09:42] <cpk2> yes, but in theory are they planning for it to be seamless? =)
[09:42] <h3sp4wn> debian stable to the next stable has always worked perfectly when I have tried it
[09:42] <Dr_willis> thats always the plan
[09:42] <h3sp4wn> (which was only woody -> sarge)
[09:42] <lmueller> I did. The 2.6.10 Kernel runs fine but 2.2.18 brings a /dev/sda5 does not exist
[09:42] <Dr_willis> debian stable to debian stable has always caused a Nuculear explosion when ive tried it. :P
[09:43] <Dr_willis> Luckly I was in Soviet Russia at the time
[09:43] <h3sp4wn> Working as a spy ?
[09:43] <arand> it was a long time ago the, mr Dr_willis?
[09:43] <h3sp4wn> lmueller: There are other packages you need to upgrade for 2.6.18 to work well on dapper (perhaps more than 2.6.17 which I did get working)
[09:44] <Dr_willis> :)
[09:44] <gratis> what kde programms are now fully supported on windows (w/out cygwin)?
[09:44] <lmueller> OK but I tried also the 2.6.15 wicht didn't work neither
[09:45] <cpk2> gratis: the live cd has about 4 programs you can install if you autoplay it in windows
[09:46] <h3sp4wn> lmueller: where is 2.6.10 from ?
[09:46] <gratis> yeah,i know. but are there other?
[09:46] <lmueller> From the Install CD
[09:47] <AWOSDev> Perfect I screwed up my apache2 royally
[09:48] <AWOSDev> I tried to install php4 when my MySQL extension wasn't working
[09:48] <AWOSDev> so I removed it
[09:48] <AWOSDev> reinstalled php5
[09:48] <AWOSDev> and now I get
[09:48] <AWOSDev> Open 'http://131.107.2.1/.../payment_types.php'?  Type: applcation/x-httpd-php
[09:49] <AWOSDev> Save      Open     Cancel
[09:49] <AWOSDev> I already followed the Wiki's instructions of installing the libapache2-mod-php5
[09:49] <AWOSDev> and force-reloading of the server
[09:49] <AWOSDev> But that didn't help
[09:50] <AWOSDev> What do I do?
[09:51] <Danker> Hi. How to know, what /dev/ file device is using?
[09:51] <AWOSDev> I also tried the sudo a2enmod php5
[09:51] <AWOSDev> Danker, what device?
[09:51] <Danker> any
[09:51] <Danker> Lets say USB
[09:52] <Danker> Every device has a /dev/ file
[09:52] <AWOSDev> right
[09:52] <anne_>  Hi, I'm new to kubuntu (but not to linux) and would need some help :)
[09:52] <Danker> So how to know which?
[09:52] <virgilio> where I can report problems using update tool from dapper to edgy?
[09:52] <AWOSDev> Ohhhh I get it now
[09:52] <zorglu_> anne_: ask your question
[09:52] <anne_> I'm trying to install mp3 support, but can't find this libxine-extracodecs.
[09:52] <lmueller> going down for (another) reboot ...
[09:52] <zorglu_> Danker: look at the minor/major and parse the kernel source
[09:52] <Danker> uncomment repositeis
[09:53] <AWOSDev> !source-o-matic
[09:53] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:53] <AWOSDev> !repo
[09:53] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:53] <cpk2> !info libxine-extracodecs
[09:53] <pjz> does 6.10 do any better at supporting multiple displays than 5.x did ?
[09:53] <zorglu_> Danker: car /proc/devices may help
[09:53] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[09:53] <anne_> went to "adept" and activated universe and multiverse, but no success, when searching "linxine"....
[09:53] <AWOSDev> Danker, zorglu_ means "cat /proc/devices" not "car /proc/devices"
[09:53] <cpk2> anne_: well its there =)
[09:53] <AWOSDev> anne_ it's libxine
[09:53] <AWOSDev> not linxine
[09:53] <zorglu_> AWOSDev: thanks :)
[09:54] <Danker> ya, i know :)
[09:54] <cpk2> might want to double check your sources.list
[09:54] <zorglu_> anne_: dont forget to update too
[09:54] <anne_> ok - justa type here :)
[09:54] <AWOSDev> Though, zorglu_, I would love to see my car's /proc/devices :P
[09:54] <Danker> nothing useful there
[09:55] <AWOSDev> Gee the room was silent when I asked my Apache2 question
[09:55] <anne_> Ah, thanks, zorglu - that was ist!
[09:55] <AWOSDev> anybody wanna help with that?
[09:55] <cpk2> hehe
[09:55] <Danker> dmesg doesnt give good info too :(
[09:56] <cpk2> everyone wants to answer the easy questions =)
[09:56] <Danker> What apache question?
[09:56] <Danker> I worked a little with it
[09:56] <Danker> I am a web-dev :)
[09:56] <AWOSDev> Okay good :)
[09:56] <gsuveg> ask!
[09:56] <AWOSDev> well I don't want to flood the channel with a paste so I'll condense my 6 line question to one
[09:56] <zorglu_> Danker: so look at the kernel source
[09:57] <gsuveg> AWOSDev: pastebin?
[09:57] <Danker> too hard...
[09:57] <AWOSDev> I screwed up my apache2 by removing php5 installing php4 then removing php4 and installing php5.
[09:57] <Danker> how it screwed?
[09:57] <AWOSDev> Now it comes up the dreaded Save As when I try and open a PHP file on my server
[09:57] <gratis> 27 days, 4 hours, 02 minutes, 10 sec to Edgy Eft
[09:57] <JosefK> AWOSDev: you just need to install modphp
[09:58] <Danker> httpd.conf is fucked
[09:58] <AWOSDev> josefk, I already did that
[09:58] <Danker> it needs to add 1 line ;)
[09:58] <AWOSDev> Danker, I assumed that :)
[09:58] <pjz> how hard is it to get Kubuntu setup to do dualheaded X?
[09:58] <Danker> i will look
[09:58] <Danker> Its esay
[09:58] <Danker> I use it now :)
[09:58] <zorglu_> !dualhead
[09:58] <pjz> I think I tried with 5.10 and couldn't get the LiveCD to do it so I didn't bother to install it
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualhead - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <AWOSDev> Josefk, I already installed modphp, a2enmod'ed it, and force-reloaded the server.
[09:59] <zorglu_> !xinerama
[09:59] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[09:59] <pjz> ubotu: cool, thanks
[09:59] <zorglu_> pjz: this one
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cool, thanks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <Danker> AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
[09:59] <zorglu_> pjz: ubotu is  abot :)
[09:59] <Danker> try to add this
[10:00] <Danker> here is my DUAL-HEAD
[10:00] <Danker> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25097/
[10:00] <AWOSDev> Danker, I did
[10:00] <AWOSDev> still didn't work
[10:00] <Danker> wait
[10:00] <AWOSDev> !pastebin
[10:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:01] <pjz> zorglu_: ah, thanksto you then :)
[10:01] <Danker> what is in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled ?
[10:01] <Danker> is there php5?
[10:01] <Danker> stuff
[10:02] <Danker> U are using Debian-based system?
[10:02] <AWOSDev> Danker, yes I'm using Kubuntu :)
[10:02] <Danker> So what is in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled ?
[10:03] <Danker> Did i helped with dual head ?
[10:03] <AWOSDev> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25100/
[10:03] <AWOSDev> and my apache2.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25098/
[10:04] <Danker> what are contents of php5.load and php5.conf ?
[10:05] <AWOSDev> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25101/
[10:05] <Danker> Does apache outputs any errors when you "apache2 -k restart" ?
[10:05] <Danker> Looks same like mine's
[10:06] <Danker> Maybe binaries, has fucked up?
[10:06] <AWOSDev> No, Danker, no output at all just restart
[10:06] <Danker> cat /var/log/syslog ?
[10:06] <AWOSDev> Danker I highly doubt the binaries are at fault
[10:06] <AWOSDev> I think it's just me
[10:06] <Danker> any errors there?
[10:07] <AWOSDev> Last thing was two minutes ago, nmbd
[10:07] <michele> cciiao
[10:07] <michele> your country?
[10:07] <AWOSDev> United States
[10:07] <michele> i am italy ciao a tutti
[10:07] <AWOSDev> let me guess yours, Italy?
[10:08] <AWOSDev> oh I guess I was right :)
[10:08] <Danker>  /var/log/apache2 try looking
[10:08] <Danker> Maybe u will find something useful
[10:08] <michele> i do not speak good inglish
[10:08] <AWOSDev> !it
[10:08] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:08] <michele> grazie
[10:08] <AWOSDev> np
[10:09] <Danker> Does /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so exist?
[10:09] <AWOSDev> [Thu Sep 28 20:05:30 2006]  [notice]  Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.1.2 configured -- resuming normal operations
[10:09] <AWOSDev> Yes my clock is off
[10:09] <AWOSDev> but it *does* says PHP/5.1.2
[10:09] <AWOSDev> *say
[10:10] <AWOSDev> Yes, Danker, it does exist.
[10:10] <Danker> Maybe here is some special definions for your site ? /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/
[10:11] <AWOSDev> no
[10:11] <lmueller> Bingo!!! append = "root=/dev/sda5" did it!
[10:11] <Danker> Cheee, i dont know what is left then...
[10:11] <AWOSDev> :(
[10:11] <Danker> Lets turn on imagination :)
[10:12] <AWOSDev> Maybe go to the Apache channel?
[10:12] <AWOSDev> :)
[10:13] <Danker> There is always ant windows style way left: reinstall with purging :D
[10:13] <AWOSDev> :P
[10:13] <AWOSDev> Yeah I'll try the #apache channel first!  :)
[10:13] <Danker> Ok
[10:14] <Danker> Does anyone has good way how to know what device file in /deve
[10:14] <uwo> hi all. is anyone using amarok to sync video podcasts? mine syncs them as audio, so i can't open them on ipod...
[10:14] <Danker> my device got
[10:14] <zorglu_> gratis: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Salon
[10:14] <zorglu_> gratis: on a similar veine
[10:14] <Danker>  /dev/*
[10:15] <gratis> zorglu_ interesting
[10:16] <JosefK> anyone else having usplash problems on edgy?
[10:18] <gratis> zorglu_ readed and added to bookmarks :)
[10:19] <zorglu_> gratis: they share a similar purpose with ubuntu, a lot of idea in the creative common side
[10:19] <Dr_willis> !edgy
[10:19] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:25] <Sanne> hi
[10:26] <Dr_willis> Moo!
[10:28] <Danker_> Does anyone has good way how to know what device file in /dev/ has my device ??
[10:29] <zorglu_> Danker_: you asked that 3times, this is offtopic and has been answered the first time you asked
[10:30] <Danker_> That wasnt a a thing i expected
[10:30] <Danker_> I am looking for more ideas
[10:32] <groth|zzZZzz> Hi!
[10:32] <groth|zzZZzz> Who is building azureus packages? I'd love to get an updated Version of it somewhere. But I can't find any in apt.
[10:33] <AWOSDev> Yay!  SQL worked!  Thanks Danker_ :)
[10:33] <Danker_> Good for you :)
[10:34] <segfault_> groth|zzZZzz, azureus is simple to install u dont even have to compile use apt-get to remove and grab the latest version from the web
[10:34] <reisi> could someone point me to a picture of 6.10 systemsettings?
[10:35] <gratis> why there are 4 months (not 6) between 6.06 and 6.10?
[10:35] <trappist> reisi: I could take a screenshot if you want.  what are you looking for?
[10:35] <h3sp4wn> gratis: dapper took 8 months to complete
[10:35] <trappist> gratis: because 6.06 was supposed to be 6.04, but was delayed
[10:36] <gratis> thanks
[10:36] <trappist> gratis: and the decision was made to not throw off future releases for it, but to shorten edgy's cycle instead
[10:37] <gratis> and the final release is always on 26th of month?
[10:41] <h3sp4wn> No
[10:42] <guy> hier wordt niet veel gezegd zeker ?
[10:42] <gratis> #kubuntu-de
[10:42] <ile> how to create the folder /usr/java/ ? trough the console
[10:42] <groth|zzZZzz> gratis: That is dutch, not german!
[10:43] <gratis> groth - stay frosty
[10:43] <segfault_> ile, man mkdir
[10:43] <trappist> guy: #ubuntu-be
[10:44] <ile> segfault_: thank you
[10:44] <gratis> 27d,3h,15m,10s to edgy
[10:45] <zorglu_> hehehe
[10:45] <zorglu_> lets start counting :0
[10:46] <fignew> weeee: the best part of college: http;//fignew.com/snapshot1.png
[10:47] <trappist> s/;/:/
[10:47] <Blissex> fignew: until all the students arrive and start downloading from YouTube.com
[10:47] <gratis> fignew - :-O
[10:47] <software_> ayuda en espaol
[10:47] <Blissex> !es
[10:47] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:48] <Blissex> !castillan
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about castillan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <fignew> Blissex: nahh, that's only a fraction of the pipe... I've downloaded at 6MBps from HTTP before :P
[10:48] <fignew> at that point, it's your computer slowing you down
[10:49] <gratis> in village near my town only the (i don`t know how to name him in english) chieftan has internet, and he burned linuxes for all
[10:49] <Blissex> gratis: "mayor" probably
[10:50] <cpk2> fignew: you only have a 10kB/s up though =\
[10:50] <gratis> Blissex - in village?
[10:50] <Dr_willis>  chieftan ? :)
[10:51] <gratis> Dr_willis - it`s in village, you know
[10:51] <fignew> cpk2: it's a well seeded torrent :/ I have the upstream set at 100kbps
[10:51] <cpk2> in the azureus channel there was some guy with a fiber line for only $20 USD
[10:52] <cpk2> lucky guy lived in japan
[10:52] <Dr_willis> gratis,  'it takes a villiage' :P
[10:52] <gratis> Dr_willis - got your point hehe
[10:53] <Dr_willis> Old 'political' joke.
[10:53] <Dr_willis> :P
[10:53] <zorglu_> gratis: where are you in the world ?
[10:53] <gratis> zorglu_ in Poland
[10:54] <gratis> you know Kaczynski brothers etc.
[10:54] <zorglu_> i like this :)
[10:54] <gratis> John Paul II etc.
[10:54] <Skrot> Vader! ;)
[10:54] <gratis> thats right :D
[10:54] <zorglu_> a mayor of a village in polland burn linux for the whole village :)
[10:55] <gratis> and for the money that would be put on ms windows he made a road
[10:56] <zorglu_> gratis: serious ?
[10:56] <gratis> zogrlu_ - yes. what`s strange in it?
[10:56] <Blissex> gratis: that sounds exactly like a good idea.
[10:57] <zorglu_> gratis: i fell you wanna contribute, make a movie about this road, how the mayor paid for it etc... this would be amazing work
[10:57] <zorglu_> gratis, film children using the road to go to school :)
[10:57] <cpk2> or at least a short testimonial type thing
[10:58] <Blissex> a similar idea is Ubuntu: it was created also because Mark though that poor south africans adding to the profits of rich american shareholders was not such an awesome idea.
[10:58] <zorglu_> gratis: such a movie would be a great testimony about what is linux
[10:58] <gratis> zorglu_ and publish on CC? :)
[10:58] <knapper_> hey guys, im getting the following error when I go to compile a theme: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25104/
[10:58] <zorglu_> gratis: clearly :)
[10:58] <knapper_> can anyone help me figure this one out?
[10:58] <Blissex> gratis: more specifically get in touch with Canonical, there are good chances they would like the story.
[10:58] <knapper_> I have installed the qt packages
[10:58] <knapper_> and the dev packages
[10:59] <Blissex> gratis: of course it would also help the mayor politically.
[10:59] <h3sp4wn> Blissex: He is a businessman primarily (and a good one) He would do more if he was really 100% like he appears to be
[10:59] <zorglu_> Blissex: gratis: seems like a winwin situation we got here :)
[10:59] <Blissex> h3sp4wn: yes, but the difference is between a businessman who only wants to take money from you, and one who also cares somewhat about good side effects...
[11:00] <h3sp4wn> Blissex: I would say bill gates has done more good
[11:00] <Blissex> h3sp4wn: not with his business...
[11:00] <h3sp4wn> Blissex: Bill & Melinda Gates foundation
[11:00] <Dr_willis> Hes given away more $$ this year then i will make in 10 lifetimes..
[11:01] <Dr_willis> of course once ya get that rich.. what else ya going to do with it all.
[11:01] <h3sp4wn> Buy nuclear weapons ?
[11:01] <cpk2> I'm still trying to figure out how ubuntu managed to pay for a billboard add just south of san francisco
[11:01] <cpk2> err billboard ad*
[11:01] <gratis> but Bill support fighting with some disease
[11:01] <gratis> in really big money
[11:01] <Dr_willis> I think he should do sould do some weird stuff like build a 'palm island' sort of thing off the coast of Florida
[11:01] <knapper_> anyone?
[11:02] <Dr_willis> or GPL Dos! :P
[11:02] <Dr_willis> or Support Nader for president
[11:02] <h3sp4wn> gratis: 20 million I believe he has spent on ubuntu
[11:02] <Dr_willis> Invest in a space elevator, and a farm of offshore windmoills for power.
[11:03] <Dr_willis> I wonder when that One-Laptop-per-child thing will start selling them
[11:03] <shadowhywind> Hi all
[11:03] <h3sp4wn> They are both businessmen who have made alot of money - and what they give away is to them irrelevant
[11:03] <gratis> just remember gentlemen that MS is not only Gate`s thing. not only he decises
[11:03] <shadowhywind> does anyone know how to set up a hotkey to disable speakers and enable headphones in one hotkey?
[11:06] <Whopper|Away> hi
[11:07] <gratis> zorglu_ in matter of counting down, i have something like this near os clock: http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clipboard01ec1.jpg
[11:07] <Whopper|Away> im new to kubuntu, and have just posted on shipit.
[11:08] <Whopper|Away> so, does it work with my dsl, and will I need to uninstall all my windows programs?
[11:09] <shadowhywind> yes it should work with any dsl as long as your ethernet jack/wireless card works
[11:09] <kay> maybe someone can help me with gaim i need a plugin for gaim to run xfire it is a chat for gaming do anyone know how i get this to work?
[11:10] <Whopper|Away> shadowhywind: great!
[11:10] <shadowhywind> and you can leave your Windows alone if you want to duel boot
[11:10] <shadowhywind> *sorry for slow response talking with HP*
[11:10] <Whopper|Away> ok
[11:10] <Whopper|Away> it's ok ^_^
[11:10] <Whopper|Away> one more thing
[11:11] <shadowhywind> ask away Whopper
[11:11] <Whopper|Away> would it be ok to uninstall windows first, then boot kubuntu up off the cd?
[11:11] <shadowhywind> are you getting rid of windows completely?
[11:11] <Whopper|Away> yea
[11:12] <shadowhywind> *claps* first Congrats!
[11:12] <shadowhywind> my suggestion is just leave windows alone and just have the cd just reformat it, just easyer that way i think
[11:13] <Whopper|Away> k
[11:13] <Whopper|Away> im using it on a relativly old second pc
[11:13] <Whopper|Away> so...
[11:13] <Whopper|Away> will it operate good on 3.5 gb?
[11:14] <gratis> did you guys saw that movie (on youtube i think, adobe flash) in which some guy destroying big number of shipit ubuntu cds with axe?
[11:14] <h3sp4wn> Whopper|Away: no women are the root of all evil (Women takes time and money. Women = time x money Time IS money
[11:15] <gratis> this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RpoWKpAL9Q
[11:15] <gratis> just... strange
[11:15] <Sanne> h3sp4wn: very funny...
[11:15] <h3sp4wn> Whopper|Away: Women = money x money = money ^ 2 Money is the root of all evil money = sqrt(evil)  money^2 = evil since women = money^2 women = evil :) (maybe a bit wrong)
[11:15] <shadowhywind> h3sp4wn your wrong, HP is the root of all evil, They wont give me a cd, becuase i AM UNDER warrenty
[11:15] <Whopper|Away> lol
[11:16] <Lexaeus> do any apt repositories have the ltmodem package, seems it's what I need to get my modem working in Kubuntu
[11:16] <Whopper|Away> guess I should start cleaning some junk off the drive
[11:17] <LjL> Lexaeus: have a look at linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386
[11:19] <gratis> logout. will be here tommorow, 4am UTC, 6am polish time
[11:23] <h3sp4wn> Sanne: Also not true (but humerous for 5 seconds)
[11:23] <Sanne> h3sp4wn: maybe for non females ;)
[11:24] <h3sp4wn> shadowhywind: HP have always been pretty decent to me (when I was working for a company with a support contract - got parts within 4 hours)
[11:25] <shadowhywind> don't get me wrong, i love HP, in there own backwards ways. I have actraully never owned anything but a HP
[11:25] <shadowhywind> the girl i am talking with now, is just an idiot.. hehe
[12:05] <software_> !es
[12:05] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:08] <DShepherd> does anyone know how to configure a psuedo printer? (kde specific)
[12:10] <DShepherd> from the commandline that is
[12:10] <DaSkreech> GUI dead?
[12:10] <DShepherd> no its alive