[12:01] <ayiden> yeah it shows stuff
[12:01] <sethk> silvertip257, it's possible.
[12:01] <sethk> ayiden, tty1 through tty6?
[12:01] <silvertip257> sethk:  ok i'll have 2 take a look now
[12:01] <ayiden> yes
[12:01] <kfm82> all, so now i do have the nvidia binary X driver up and running, is there a way to change screen orientation from left-right to up-down? my external TFT is located over my notebook tft, not next to it
[12:01] <i3d> how to find out the windowid?
[12:02] <sethk> ayiden, try adding to the kernel command line in menu.lst:      vga=ask
[12:02] <sethk> ayiden, then do what it tells you to do during boot, and see if the consoles are visible.
[12:02] <silvertip257> sethk:  the drive still shows up as primary slave
[12:02] <sethk> silvertip257, that's a problem.  it's an EIDE cable?
[12:03] <sethk> silvertip257, the EIDE cable has one blue, one grey, and one black connector
[12:03] <sethk> silvertip257, the older IDE cable has three black connectors
[12:03] <silvertip257> sethk:  it's an eide cable
[12:04] <anosa> did anyone try to install ubuntu on a pc (onboard vga) ??
[12:04] <sethk> silvertip257, make sure the drive is jumpered for cable select and the primary connector is plugged into the drive.
[12:04] <ayiden> sethk: I noticed that quiet splash is on... -.- if i want splash screen what do i put?
[12:04] <sethk> ayiden, take that out, at least for the moment.
[12:04] <silvertip257> sethk:  wait a min i've got a dvd drive that idk what it's jumpered 2
[12:04] <[NP] Tangent> k guys, I'll be back tomorrow. later. [amsg] 
[12:04] <ayiden> sethk: kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 root=/dev/hda2 ro  noapic vga=ask
[12:04] <sethk> silvertip257, ok, you might want to temporarily disconnect the dvd drive
[12:04] <ayiden> thats whats there
[12:05] <sethk> ayiden, ok, give that a try.
[12:05] <ayiden> alright
[12:05] <sethk> ayiden, it may not help but there is a small chance it will.
[12:05] <silvertip257> sethk:  will it still work after the dvd drive is back in ?
[12:05] <chris_> Is there anyone able to help me out?  I have mucked up my wireless drivers and my device no longer shows up.  How can I restore the shipping drivers or am I SOL?
[12:06] <silvertip257> sethk:  the drive is still primary slave after taking the DVD drive off
[12:07] <sethk> silvertip257, the black connector is connected to the drive, and the jumper is at cable select?
[12:07] <sethk> silvertip257, this is a very strange.
[12:07] <silvertip257> sethk:  jumper is CS & it's one of the blk connectors
[12:07] <sethk> silvertip257, if it's an EIDE cable, there is _only_ one black connector
[12:07] <ruzgar> how can i backup my synaptic package list ?
[12:08] <sethk> silvertip257, sounds like it isn't.  jumper it as master
[12:08] <silvertip257> sethk:  it has a blue end ...?
[12:08] <sethk> silvertip257, the blue goes in the mother board
[12:08] <sethk> silvertip257, black in master, grey in slave, blue to the ide interface
[12:08] <silvertip257> sethk:  i know it's on the mobo
[12:08] <zoredache> what do you mean ruzgar?
[12:09] <silvertip257> sethk:  there are 2 other ends and they are blk
[12:09] <ayiden> sethk: worked???....
[12:09] <sethk> silvertip257, then assume it isn't eide.
[12:09] <detra> hello ... What does this mean ? error: dependency is not satisfiable: libcairo2
[12:09] <ayiden> i just hit enter...
[12:09] <ayiden> ha ha
[12:09] <sethk> ayiden, good.  :)
[12:09] <ruzgar> i hear that a command can save the package list
[12:09] <sethk> at least I helped one person tonight.
[12:09] <silvertip257> sethk:  well @ a closer look seth the one end has gray w/in the black outer
[12:09] <zoredache> do a dpkg --get-selections > filename.txt
[12:09] <silvertip257> sethk:  so which is master blk or gray?
[12:09] <ruzgar> after re-install ubuntu can i loag this package list
[12:09] <sethk> silvertip257, black
[12:09] <silvertip257> sethk:  ty
[12:09] <ayiden> sethk: now i just need to know what to put instead of having to go through that each time
[12:10] <ayiden> sethk: and what to put there to add splash screen
[12:10] <silvertip257> sethk:  if i use the gray & set the hd for master would it still work ?
[12:10] <zoredache> ruzgar: after a reload then do a cat filename.txt | dpkg --set-selections and then do a apt-get dselect-upgrade
[12:10] <sethk> ayiden, there is one option where it shows you a list of choices
[12:10] <ayiden> ayiden: yes i just pressed enter
[12:10] <sethk> ayiden, pick one, make sure it works (you can see the consoles after it boots), then you will put   vga=XXXX  in the menu.lst
[12:11] <ayiden> okay
[12:11] <sethk> ayiden, I don't remember which key gives you the menu, and which just defaults to 80x25
[12:11] <silvertip257> sethk:  cause the ide cable just wont reach if i need to put the gray into my DVD & the black into  my hd
[12:11] <ayiden> sethk: thanks alot ^.^ now what do i add to see the splash screen
[12:11] <sethk> silvertip257, that's a problem, but it isn't going to work the way it is.
[12:11] <Lunar_Lamp> how do i change my grub menu list default kernel again? "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst" and change the default number?
[12:11] <detra> anyone ?
[12:11] <sethk> silvertip257, get another cable.  or temporarily move the drive.  (or permanently move the drive)
[12:12] <erUSUL> Lunar_Lamp: yes
[12:12] <sethk> ayiden, that I don't know
[12:12] <IceTox> is there any easy way to check what my network card is named? To see which drivers I have to search for..
[12:12] <sethk> detra, right
[12:12] <silvertip257> sethk:  how come my drive works w/ windows the way i explained earlier ???
[12:12] <erUSUL> IceTox: lspci
[12:12] <sethk> detra, sorry
[12:12] <detra> sethk, do you know what it means ?
[12:12] <sethk> Lunar_Lamp, right, change the default number
[12:12] <sethk> IceTox, lspci
[12:12] <ayiden> sethk: well do you see the splash screen when you boot? (if your running ubuntu)
[12:12] <IceTox> erUSUL: that didn't give me any information on network card
[12:12] <IceTox> same for you sethk
[12:12] <erUSUL> IceTox: lshw too System>Administration>DeviceManager
[12:13] <strk> so, I was saying... does switching from debian to ubuntu sound as an easy task (having ~30GB of free partition) ?
[12:13] <detra> What does this mean ? error: dependency is not satisfiable: libcairo2
[12:13] <sethk> erUSUL, then you don't have one.
[12:13] <erUSUL> IceTox: post the output to a pastebin
[12:13] <strk> detra: urgh.. reminds me of debian bugs ...
[12:13] <erUSUL> !paste
[12:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:13] <detra> strk, so ???
[12:14] <IceTox> two secs erUSUL :)
[12:14] <strk> detra: so, nothing... I'm just thinking about switching to ubuntu hoping to get rid of them and your question makes me think it won't be all roses and flowers :)
[12:14] <kiddle> Hi, I'm connecting to a ubuntu 6.06 lamp server using ssh w/ putty. My session dies minutes into the connection while I'm tediously typing away (not inactive)
[12:14] <detra> strk, so you don't know how to fix it ?
[12:14] <kfm82> what exactly does this option in /etc/X11/xorg.conf do? Viewport   0 0 ... something related to the physical orientation of displays?
[12:14] <strk> detra: nope
[12:14] <detra> What does this mean ? error: dependency is not satisfiable: libcairo2
[12:15] <strk> detra: but sounds a problem in the package management system
[12:15] <Docta> what do i do if i cant find multiverse in synaptic
[12:15] <silvertip257> sethk: how come my drive works w/ windows the way i explained earlier ???
[12:15] <zoredache> detra: it means the package that you are trying to install wants libcairo2, but isn't installed and it can't find it to install
[12:15] <sethk> kfm82, it just says that you are looking at a rectangle starting at position 0,0.  unless your physical resolution is lower than your logical resolution, it really does nothing
[12:15] <sethk> silvertip257, I've seen this before.  with some chipsets linux is more sensitive to incorrect cabling.
[12:16] <sethk> silvertip257, I think it gets hacked around in windows drivers.
[12:16] <detra> zoredache, it says that the newest version of libcairo2 is already installed
[12:16] <erUSUL> !upgrade
[12:16] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:17] <kfm82> sethk, i currently have display 0 located to the left of display 1, but i want it to be above the other, to match the physical orientation. what gives?
[12:17] <sethk> kfm82, I've never tried to do that.  I don't know whether or not it is possible
[12:17] <detra> zoredache, do you know how to fix it ?
[12:17] <sethk> kfm82, is there an option "above" like "leftof"?
[12:18] <zoredache> detra, I do not...
[12:18] <detra> ok
[12:18] <kfm82> sethk, in xorg.conf? where? what syntax?
[12:19] <sethk> kfm82, I'm only guessing, but it would be where you put leftof or rightof
[12:19] <sethk> kfm82, but it may not exist, or that may not be the right name
[12:20] <bolshyYarblockos> kfm82, above is correct
[12:20] <bolshyYarblockos> also, below
[12:20] <erUSUL> !source-o-matic
[12:20] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:20] <myesterious> hi
[12:21] <kfm82> bolshyYarblockos, do you happen to have a wiki link for that above/below expression syntax?
[12:21] <Flannel> kfm82: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo  down at the bottom there's an example using "RightOf"
[12:21] <myesterious> hey, gnome on ubuntu has tab feature like fluxbox ?
[12:21] <Flannel> myesterious: you mean multiple workspaces?
[12:22] <kfm82> Flannel, ah, turns out i already had that open, it's hidden down in the ATI section, never occured to me to read that, working with nvidia :)
[12:22] <myesterious> i known the workspace but i am meaning tab feature like fluxbox,fwm,..
[12:22] <Flannel> kfm82: sounds good ;) ServerLayout section should be the same for both
[12:23] <vince_> hello used linux for awhile new to ubuntu and the gnome feel.........need help with resolution and graphic card settings
[12:23] <silvertip257_> sethk:  for some reason i got kicked from the channel
[12:23] <myesterious> Flannel, like this
[12:23] <myesterious> http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/features/tabs.php
[12:24] <kfm82> Flannel, only the nvidia section talks about not using any xinerama packages as that functionality is already provided by the binary blob
[12:24] <LjL> silvertip257_, you weren't kicked, your connection went out ("connection reset by peer")
[12:24] <sethk> silvertip257, I didn't do it.  :)
[12:24] <Asc> My main drive seems to be assigned to I/O address 0x3F7-0x3F7.  Is there a way to change the I/O address (or better yet make it a range, because 0x3F7 is already in use)?
[12:24] <Flannel> myesterious: you mean like rolling up to the shade?
[12:24] <myesterious> no
[12:24] <Yaakov> Someone has to find that peer guy and stop him!
[12:24] <myesterious> tab
[12:24] <silvertip257_> sethk:  it now says /bin/sh: cant access: tty: job control turned off
[12:24] <vince_> lol
[12:24] <silvertip257_> sethk:  ok w/e
[12:24] <sethk> Asc, that should be handled automatically during PCI bus negotiation.  unless you have ancient hardware
[12:24] <LjL> Yaakov: doh
[12:25] <erUSUL> !fixres > vince_
[12:25] <Yaakov> myesterious: I have never seen fluxbox like tabs in Gnome.
[12:25] <silvertip257_> ok LjL ...
[12:25] <Flannel> kfm82: then you'll have to check into nvidia documentation for it, which they should have.. somewhere
[12:25] <myesterious> like firefox that has several pages in a window but will be used tab for switch any page.
[12:25] <Asc> sethk: If it's being handled automatically, it's being handled automatically wrong
[12:25] <vince_> erusul?
[12:25] <silvertip257_> sethk: it now says /bin/sh: cant access: tty: job control turned
[12:26] <detra> Does anyone know how to help me ??? When I try to install a deb file it says error: dependency is not satisfiable: libcairo2 ... but when I try to install it it says that it is installed ...
[12:26] <sethk> silvertip257, when you do what?
[12:26] <silvertip257_> sethk:  now it's waiting for a command or something w/ a # character
[12:26] <kitche> myesterious: so you mean virtual desktops right?
[12:26] <silvertip257_> when i boot up, sethk
[12:26] <vince_> detra make sure its up to date?
[12:26] <myesterious> oh no kitche
[12:26] <sethk> silvertip257, it's not fully booted up.  it's in some sort of rescue or safe mode, I think.
[12:26] <detra> vince_, it says its the newest version ...
[12:27] <silvertip257_> sethk oh
[12:27] <Yaakov> Fluxbox can put tabs on the tops of windows so you can stack them.
[12:27] <silvertip257_> sethk:  now what?
[12:27] <Flannel> kitche: if you go to that link, you see that each shade (the titlebar) has a little tab thing on top, you can apparently group windows together, and use that tab to switch between them
[12:27] <Yaakov> I turn them off, myself.
[12:27] <sethk> Asc, you are talking about what kind of drive interface?  IDE?  SATA?
[12:27] <vince_> the dependancy is the same that you have loaded?
[12:27] <bolshyYarblockos> kfm82, try this howto as well http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174&page=1
[12:27] <Asc> sethk: IDE
[12:27] <myesterious> aha yep Yaakov
[12:27] <sethk> silvertip257, I'm not sure, let me think for a minute.  I'm talking to too many people at one time.
[12:27] <myesterious> Gnome can do it ?
[12:27] <Yaakov> myesterious: Not that I have ever seen.
[12:27] <sethk> Asc, make sure there are no "hardwired" resource assignments in the BIOS.
[12:28] <bolshyYarblockos> kfm82, you probably want to use twinview rather than xinerama
[12:28] <Yaakov> myesterious: But I wouldn't swear that it can't.
[12:28] <kitche> Flannel: sorry don't see a link but anyways that's not built into fluxbox anyways it might be an add on
[12:28] <kfm82> bolshyYarblockos, thx, turns out the ati howto configures the two displays as seperate devices
[12:28] <silvertip257_> sethk:  what do i do now that it's there?
[12:28] <detra> vince_, Can I paste a pm to you with what it says when I try to install in a terminal ?
[12:28] <kfm82> bolshyYarblockos, exactly, i have twinview enabled, and get left-to-right dual head orientation
[12:28] <Asc> sethk: My BIOS has no such options.
[12:28] <vince_> yes
[12:28] <sethk> silvertip257, I have to take my dog out, I'll be back soon.  we've made progress, perhaps someone else can help for a while.
[12:28] <sethk> Asc, most do, but not all.
[12:28] <Flannel> kitche: http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/features/tabs.php  that link
[12:29] <silvertip257_> ty sethk ... ty very much
[12:29] <lasindi> Hi everyone, I'm looking for some good calendaring software on Ubuntu. I've tried Mozilla Calendar, but I would really prefer something else, especially something that used a native widget set. Any recommendatiosn?
[12:29] <lasindi> *recommendations
[12:29] <Asc> sethk: It only happens with kernel 2.6.18; windows and 2.6.15-23 are fine.
[12:30] <bolshyYarblockos> kfm82, ok, so Option "TwinViewOrientation" "Above" should do what you want? in Device section?
[12:30] <vince_> erUSUL ive tried that .........thinkin its a hardware issue as my hardware isnt matching is there somewere i can go to find the right drivers for my intel 810 graphics chip?
[12:30] <sethk> Asc, that's odd.  it does rule out the bios.  :)
[12:30] <kfm82> bolshyYarblockos, yeah, i just foind that very same line a minute ago. will test ASAP.
[12:30] <bolshyYarblockos> cool beans :)
[12:31] <silvertip257_> would anyone else please help me ?
[12:31] <myesterious> Whats the difference between Desktop environment and Window manager ?
[12:32] <Asc> sethk: I'm recompiling 2.6.18 right now with the same I/O scheduler as the 2.6.15-23 kernel.  If it's not that.....
[12:32] <sethk> Asc, I can't imagine the scheduler having an impact on IO port assignments, but we'll see.
[12:32] <silvertip257_> is there anyone out there that knows a good bit about Ubuntu that would help me ?
[12:32] <Rambo3> silvertip257_: ask you question again
[12:32] <jerb> i've been drunk since win 3.11
[12:32] <sethk> Asc, I can't imagine anything else that makes sense either.
[12:32] <kitche> myesterious: gnome is a Desktop environment and metacity is it's window manager, mostly desktop environments are bunch of programs working as one
[12:32] <jackson> how do I enable APM in my kernel without compiling a new one? I want to use APMD for my laptop
[12:32] <hugifrb> n8ght
[12:32] <silvertip257_> rambo3:   it now says /bin/sh: cant access: tty: job control turned
[12:32] <eimajenthat> hi, I'm trying to return my dapper install more or less to the state it was in when the installer finished.  Is there a way to list all the APT packages that have been installed since then?
[12:33] <baka_> #kubuntu-br
[12:33] <erUSUL> vince_: use the i810 driver (man i810) try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to change the driver and other options
[12:33] <detra> vince_, Can you figure it out ?? ?
[12:33] <myesterious> for MS Windows and MAC OSX ?
[12:33] <vince_> thank you erusul ill try again
[12:33] <Asc> sethk: Heh, yeah.  Think the architecture it was compiled for would affect anything? :\
[12:33] <silvertip257_> rambo3_:  it now says /bin/sh: cant access: tty: job control turned
[12:33] <vince_> detra? figure what out? i sent it in the message board that you sent me
[12:34] <sethk> Asc, it's not impossible.
[12:34] <jackson> how do I control my laptop's hard drive speeds and/or sleep states?
[12:34] <detra> vince_, what do you mean ?
[12:34] <Rambo3> silvertip257_: who says that and log into rescu mode
[12:34] <detra> vince_, You just put it on a forum ?
[12:34] <vince_> no detra
[12:34] <Asc> sethk: I've been making mine for P4 coppermine... I guess if this doesn't work I'll try again with 386
[12:34] <silvertip257_> rambo3_: the computer diplays that
[12:34] <vince_> ok its showing that every dependancy you have installed is older
[12:34] <silvertip257_> rambo3_: how do i get into resc mode?
[12:34] <vince_> and thats why its conflicting
[12:35] <vince_> you need to update them or you can "try" to ignore and pray like hell
[12:35] <vince_> or do the right thing and install from source
[12:35] <nervozan> hi there, i messed something up with fdisk...the NTFS partition is still there and can be mounted without errors. but it appears to be emtpy, even tho df -h says that most of the partition space is in use. any suggestions how to fix this/recover the files?
[12:35] <detra> How do I update them when it says that its the newest version ?
[12:35] <Rambo3> !1
[12:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:36] <Rambo3> !single
[12:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about single - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:36] <bdgraue> is there a chance to switch between a startet fullscreen game and the desktop?
[12:36] <vince_> still new to ubuntu but........theres a package manager here.........which mean you should be able to find each one and update eachone
[12:36] <silvertip257_> rambo3_: how?
[12:36] <eracc> I have a quite old server box that I have Mandriva installed on from using a boot floppy and Mandriva's network install over the internet. I want to install ubuntu server on this system. The only net install I see is for netboot, which is not what I need.
[12:36] <Flannel> silvertip257_: push escape to get to the grub menu (it'll be righ tafter the POST screen) then select the "recovery mode"
[12:36] <vince_> everyother flavor of linux lets you do it
[12:37] <vince_> im sure Ubuntu does too ;)
[12:37] <silvertip257_> ok ty flannel i'll try it
[12:37] <wilcox> vince_: synaptic
[12:37] <kfm82> bolshyYarblockos, shoot, now that i inserted the TwinViewOrientation directive, startx bombs out with "no screens found"... will have to try some more
[12:37] <vasP_L> Hi. I installed Beagle and now when I try to open the Search GUI i get this error in console: exec: 24: -a: not found
[12:37] <vasP_L> any clues?
[12:38] <eracc> If some kind soul could point me to a network install that runs over the internet from unbuntu repositories that would be perfect.
[12:38] <silvertip257_> flannel:  ok i'm gettin there, it's waiting for the file system it says
[12:38] <Flannel> silvertip257_: you already got to grub menu and selected rescue mode? then you're set, it just has to finish booting
[12:38] <foureight84> i accidentally removed the system tray off the top panel, how do bring it back?
[12:39] <Flannel> foureight84: right click the top panel "add to panel"
[12:39] <silvertip257_> flannel:  ok, is it really supposed to take this long lol ?
[12:39] <Flannel> silvertip257_: have you already selected the recovery console?
[12:39] <silvertip257_> flannel:  yes
[12:40] <foureight84> hmmm... but stats icon like gaim doesn't appear anymore... it's just launcher now
[12:40] <Flannel> silvertip257_: then, it's just normal booting, I don't remember it taking any longer
[12:40] <detra> ok ... Everytime I try to install some deb file it says "error: dependency is not satisfiable:" Even tho the newest version is already installed ... What should I do ?
[12:40] <silvertip257_> flannel:  all it says is Waiting for root file system... ...
[12:40] <vasP_L> Hi. I installed Beagle and now when I try to open the Search GUI i get this error in console: "exec: 24: -a: not found"   --- Any Ideas?
[12:40] <silvertip257_> flannel:  it's been there for a lil while
[12:40] <silvertip257_> flannel:  it's still the black command prompt screen
[12:40] <Flannel> foureight84: you mean like the program tray things?  there's a selection that you can add that covers that
[12:41] <Flannel> silvertip257_: right, that's all you'll have, is a command prompt
[12:41] <bolshyYarblockos> kfm82, hmm, I think I had that problem too, but I'm using ati. I think the fix was to switch which was the primary monitor
[12:41] <foureight84> Flannel, hmm i'm trying to find that
[12:41] <detra> ok ... Everytime I try to install some deb file it says "error: dependency is not satisfiable:" Even tho the newest version is already installed ... What should I do ?
[12:41] <silvertip257_> flannel it says about the tty and job control turned off
[12:41] <bdgraue> is there a chance to switch between a startet fullscreen game and the desktop?
[12:41] <vince_> ok still having problems with screen resolution :S
[12:41] <silvertip257_> flannel:  i have no idea what it's doing
[12:41] <foureight84> Flannel, yea i can't find it
[12:41] <Dr_willis> bdgraue,  huh?
[12:42] <detra> ok ... Everytime I try to install some deb file it says "error: dependency is not satisfiable:" Even tho the newest version is already installed ... What should I do ?
[12:42] <bdgraue> huh?
[12:42] <Dr_willis> bdgraue,  huh?
[12:42] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:42] <silvertip257_> flannel:  i'm @ the screen where i select rescu or normal
[12:42] <bdgraue> Dr_willis: what does  "huh" mean?
[12:42] <silvertip257_> flannel:  i'm there  again
[12:42] <detra> ok ... Everytime I try to install some deb file it says "error: dependency is not satisfiable:" Even tho the newest version is already installed ... What should I do ?
[12:42] <Dr_willis> bdgraue,  it means clarify your question.
[12:43] <Dr_willis> just like how you used it. :P
[12:43] <khyron> preciso de descriptografar
[12:43] <bdgraue> Dr_willis: i startet a game, fullscreenmode
[12:43] <foureight84> Flannel, thanks i found it
[12:43] <silvertip257_> flannel:  it's waiting for the root file system again
[12:43] <vince_> detra............go to http://packman.links2linux.de/ check that out for what your looking for
[12:43] <Flannel> foureight84: on breezy it's "window list" under 'Desktop and windows'
[12:43] <vince_> and dl for a debian
[12:43] <vince_> and dl source
[12:43] <foureight84> Flannel, i added the notification area
[12:43] <Dr_willis> bdgraue,  try alt-tab yet>
[12:43] <bdgraue> Dr_willis: and i will let it run and switch to the desktop, to chat with someone
[12:43] <silvertip257_> flannel ?
[12:44] <bdgraue> what is yet> Dr_willis ?
[12:44] <Dr_willis> bdgraue,  hit the #*&*@&@ alt-tab key,.
[12:44] <silvertip257_> flannel:  are you there ?
[12:44] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:44] <foureight84> Flannel, one last question. i installed network-manager-gnome, but it doesn't seem to work at all. how do i got about configuring it. i just need a guide
[12:44] <Kojima-Kazuma> Hi can someone help me with installing programs
[12:44] <bdgraue> ok, i'll test
[12:44] <Dr_willis> bdgraue,   or try some other key combos
[12:45] <foureight84> i can't find it on the forums
[12:45] <bdgraue> Dr_willis: that doesn't work
[12:45] <Flannel> !tell foureight84 about wifi
[12:45] <foureight84> thanks
[12:45] <vasP_L> !wifi
[12:45] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:45] <silvertip257_> flannel is alive?
[12:45] <THX-1138> Hi Dr. willis, Flannel.
[12:45] <Dr_willis> bdgraue,  check the game docs. it may be locking the display badly. What game is this?
[12:45] <Flannel> silvertip257_: so it never gets past mounting the root filesystem?  But it boots up into normal mode fine?
[12:46] <bdgraue> Dr_willis: cube
[12:46] <silvertip257_> flannel it wont boot @ all
[12:46] <Dr_willis> bdgraue,  the update to cube i think is called 'sourbratten' or somthing like that.  it may have some improvements.
[12:46] <Kojima-Kazuma> can you install files on ubuntu
[12:46] <silvertip257_> flannel no matter what mode i boot to
[12:46] <Kojima-Kazuma> like normal programs
[12:46] <bdgraue> Dr_willis: i use the "old" cube ;-)
[12:47] <Flannel> silvertip257_: Ah, alright.  So, what did you do to your computer to break it?
[12:47] <sethk> Kojima-Kazuma, try a more specific question
[12:47] <Kojima-Kazuma> i made the switch from windows to ubuntu like a week ago and i need some help intalling programs
[12:47] <silvertip257_> flannel no i have not broken it
[12:47] <Dr_willis> read its docs then. Or try a different window manager. It may be a gnome issue..   hard to tell.. or just a bug in the game.
[12:47] <silvertip257_> flannel ubuntu just will not boot to the GUI
[12:47] <lewix> what's autopackage?
[12:48] <Flannel> silvertip257_: er, what? so when you do normal boot you get a terminal?
[12:48] <silvertip257_> sethk:  i have not gotten anywhere, that dog of yours doesnt walk very long
[12:48] <Dr_willis> Sauerbraten / Cube2   :) what in the world is Sauerbraten ? isent that like  pickled cabbage?
[12:48] <silvertip257_> flannel i do not get anywhere when i normal boot
[12:48] <silvertip257_> flannel: all it does is give me there error i told u abt
[12:48] <Dr_willis> !cube
[12:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cube - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:49] <foureight84> !tell NIC
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell NIC - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:49] <greymaiden> Hi, I'm looking for some Gnome support.  Anyone in here available to help me out?
[12:49] <Kojima-Kazuma> how do I install programs on ubuntu
[12:49] <THX-1138> !synaptic
[12:49] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[12:49] <Dr_willis> Kojima-Kazuma,  fire up synaptic, and start cliking/installing
[12:49] <Flannel> silvertip257_: so it doesn't "just not boot the GUI", And, it started doing this when? did you upgrade your kernel? did you... do anything else?  what was the most recent thing you did before it broke
[12:49] <Kojima-Kazuma> but it doesnt hav the program i want
[12:50] <THX-1138> An awesome program. ,amy times more powerul than anything in the windows world. "able to leap tall buildings in a single bound..."
[12:50] <vince_> ok dumb question time..............
[12:50] <Dr_willis> Kojima-Kazuma,  this is called.. asking a question.. then replying with another statement after the first questionis answered.. you should of said that to begin with. :P
[12:50] <Dr_willis> Question Ping Pong! :P
[12:50] <vince_> new to ubuntu..........what is apt-get and how do i use?
[12:50] <Dr_willis> Kojima-Kazuma,  you installing somthing from Source then?
[12:50] <silvertip257_> sethk:  are u there?
[12:51] <Dr_willis> Kojima-Kazuma,  what are you trying to install exactly?
[12:51] <Kojima-Kazuma> unrar
[12:51] <silvertip257_> ok flannel i jus tried to install v6 of ubuntu on a clean drive
[12:51] <silvertip257_> flannel:  that's the story
[12:51] <greymaiden> Okay, I'll jump in: I'm having problems loading gnome-volume-manager.  It tells me I need to enable hald services.  I've installed the latest kernel and am running the newest dapper as of about an hour ago.
[12:51] <Dr_willis> Kojima-Kazuma,  rar and unrar are in the apt-get repositories.
[12:51] <Dr_willis> !rar
[12:51] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:51] <bolshyYarblockos> greymaiden: what's up?
[12:51] <Dr_willis> !unrar
[12:51] <ubotu> unrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:52] <greymaiden> Hi bolshy, having some gnome issues, can you help?
[12:52] <Kojima-Kazuma> uhh ok
[12:52] <Flannel> silvertip257_: oh, so this is fresh?  Ah. 6.06?  alright.  Did you burn slow enough? (4x?)  Did you check the disk, andthe md5? are you using the Desktop or Alternate ISO?
[12:52] <Asc> vince_: It's a command like program to install/uninstall programs.  Using the Synaptic frontend is usually recommended.
[12:52] <bolshyYarblockos> I dunno, what's the issue?
[12:52] <Asc> *line
[12:52] <Dr_willis> Kojima-Kazuma,  you may need to enable the other repositories in synaptic to find rar/unrar
[12:52] <THX-1138> silver - are you getting that error that the clib is awol?
[12:52] <silvertip257_> flannel i'm using the normal CD
[12:53] <silvertip257_> flannel i just burnt it @ w/e speed it had me
[12:53] <THX-1138> silver "Edgy Eft knot 6">>>
[12:53] <silvertip257_> flannel i told the live thing 2 check the cd
[12:53] <silvertip257_> flannel:  i mean the desktop CD
[12:53] <vince_> :S Asc after reading a forum........i found that best way to fix my problem is threw apt-get
[12:53] <Flannel> silvertip257_: right, thats probably the problem, burn it again at 4x, also, make sure you have 6.06.1 if you're using the desktop
[12:53] <greymaiden> Well, when I try to run gnome-volume-manager, it tells me I don't have hald enabled
[12:54] <THX-1138> silver "Edgy Eft knot 6"??
[12:54] <vince_> as the other guy with the exact same problem that was the only way he won ;)
[12:54] <greymaiden> But as far as I can tell, I do.
[12:54] <silvertip257_> flannel:  how come it has to be 4x ?
[12:54] <Asc> vince_: Well, to use it, start a terminal and use 'sudo apt-get [install/remove/whatever]  [package name] .'
[12:54] <danh_> i want to stick virtual post-it notes on my desktop
[12:54] <danh_> what program should i use?
[12:54] <Dekkard> whats the package for mp3 playbakc again..mpg123?
[12:55] <vince_> Asc does it list or do i have to know the name?
[12:55] <silvertip257_> flannel i've got 6.06
[12:55] <sergo> hello..
[12:55] <Flannel> silvertip257_: because burners suck, they do caching and stuff and it messes up ISOs
[12:55] <silvertip257_> flannel ok ty
[12:55] <Flannel> silvertip257_: get 6.06.1, it's got an updated installer, 6.06 has some problems with it
[12:55] <kfm82> bolshyYarblockos, yay, it's working with above-below now!
[12:55] <sergo> i'm newbie on ubuntu and it's seems i need to install c++ compilers
[12:55] <silvertip257_> flannel would u be willing 2 give me an email or MSN s/n ?
[12:55] <Asc> vince_: You have to know the name.  That's why Synaptic is recommended; it lets you search the list.
[12:55] <bolshyYarblockos> kfm82: good stuff :) what was the problem?
[12:56] <Dekkard> danh_:  there is a stickies applet
[12:56] <Flannel> sergo: you need the build-essential package
[12:56] <Flannel> !tell sergo about compile
[12:56] <sergo> is on Synaptic c++ compiler?
[12:56] <Dr_willis> theres dozens of note programs out.
[12:56] <sergo> thanks
[12:56] <danh_> give me a name of one?
[12:56] <sedrake> whats the command to start gdm?
[12:56] <Dekkard> sedrake: sudo gdm
[12:56] <silvertip257_> flannel would u be willing 2 give me an email or MSN s/n ?
[12:56] <Flannel> sergo: /etc/init.d/gdm start
[12:56] <bruenig> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[12:56] <sedrake> ty
[12:57] <bruenig> or no sudo? I always used sudo
[12:57] <Flannel> silvertip257_: er, what's wrong with IRC?
[12:57] <vince_> ya Asc ill try that
[12:57] <vince_> again
[12:57] <kfm82> bolshyYarblockos, turns out i accidentally added a trailing "s" to the "EndSection" directive so it read "EndSections" for a while... pretty hard to spot for the naked eye
[12:57] <silvertip257_> well flannel i dont like all your messages flying by
[12:57] <Flannel> silvertip257_: /join #ubuntu-classroom
[12:57] <silvertip257_> flannel other ppl talk & then i look back & it's gone, plus i'm not an IRC guru
[12:57] <silvertip257_> flannel join  that y ?
[12:58] <bolshyYarblockos> greymaiden: sorry, I don't really know about that. why do you think you have hald enabled?
[12:58] <Dekkard> is there an edgy channel?
[12:58] <sergo> how to become a root?
[12:58] <Yaakov> sergo: use sudo
[12:58] <Flannel> !tell sergo about sudo
[12:58] <Flannel> Dekkard: #ubuntu+1
[12:58] <greymaiden> it's loaded in synaptic packet manager and it spits out data when I pidof hald
[12:58] <greymaiden> I have no idea what the data means. . .but it's there
[12:58] <ubutom> !netinstall
[12:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:58] <sergo> but "su" for what is?
[12:59] <rickard> whats the command to automatically generate a new xorg.conf?
[12:59] <sergo> i need to set up an password for root
[12:59] <Flannel> sergo: no, ubuntu doesn't use root accounts (or su) we use sudo instead, that page tells you all about it
[12:59] <greymaiden> For the sake of argument, let's pretend I don't have hald neabled.  How would I do that?
[12:59] <silvertip257_> ttyl flannel ty for everything, i gave up & booted up 2 windows
[01:00] <Dr_willis> I hear Tomboy is a nice note taker program
[01:00] <Code-E> Hi, I have managed to install JRE but when I try to run FrostWire it says its not installed
[01:00] <Lunar_Lamp> i have a dvd with music videos on it (commercial and legally mine) - how would i go about ripping the videos off it so that i can watch them on my laptop (as mpeg or avi preferably)?
[01:00] <brandini> Yay!
[01:00] <eracc> Hmmm, I thought maybe the CD-ROM drive was bad on that old server. Apparently not because xubuntu is installing. :-)
[01:00] <EvanIsaac> word
[01:00] <brandini> ok, I've setup a dual boot.... but I need help with one thing
[01:00] <bolshyYarblockos> greymaiden: /usr/sbin/hald
[01:01] <Flannel> Code-E: how did you install java?
[01:01] <brandini> what does the 0, and 1 mean in hd(0,1)
[01:01] <ibob63> sergo: are you still wondering about su?
[01:01] <rickard> noone knows how to automatically generate xorg.conf?
[01:01] <Code-E> From easyubuntu Flannel
[01:01] <EvanIsaac> if i just downloaded the iso for dapper, if i right click and select open with Nero Burning Rom will it take me where i need to go in order to get bootable?
[01:01] <Dr_willis> Code-E,  do a 'java --version' and if you are NOT using th3e sun java. update the java alternatives like mentioned on the !java wiki page
[01:01] <Dr_willis> braino,  drive 0 partition #1
[01:01] <Flannel> EvanIsaac: most likely, yes.  Nero knows how to deal with ISOs
[01:01] <EvanIsaac> ok
[01:01] <Dr_willis> brandini, o,  drive 0 partition #1
[01:01] <EvanIsaac> here goes nothing
[01:01] <EvanIsaac> bbl
[01:01] <eracc> Oh well, a server with minimalist X is not so bad I guess.
[01:01] <gbellmann> what is the minimun ram to run a small database with ubuntu server?? can it run with 16 Mb??
[01:02] <Code-E> Dr_Willis its showing 1.4
[01:02] <Dr_willis> brandini remeber that grub starts counting at 0
[01:02] <Code-E> But i am able to run java 5.0 web start or whatever its called
[01:02] <EvanIsaac> if redsox comes on asking for me tell him i'm installing dapper
[01:02] <Dr_willis> Code-E,  look BELOW that look at the full version
[01:02] <LjL> gbellmann: ugh, i dunno, but that sounds rather restricted
[01:02] <brandini> Dr_willis: ok, so if it's the second drive I need 1,1
[01:02] <brandini> :)
[01:02] <brandini> for winders
[01:02] <Dr_willis> Code-E,  does it sau jlg, or somthing instead of 'sun java'
[01:02] <Dr_willis> brandini,  that would be 2nd drive the 2nd partition
[01:02] <Code-E> java version "1.4.2"
[01:02] <Code-E> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0 (Ubuntu 4.1.0-1ubuntu8)
[01:02] <Code-E> yes
[01:02] <brandini> hmmmmmmmmm
[01:02] <Code-E> lol
[01:03] <sergo> how to configure an program to folder "usr" ?
[01:03] <Dr_willis> Code-E,  correct - you need to update the java - alternatives like at the !java wiki says
[01:03] <ibob63> does anyone know how to get firefox to print with opening a dialog box first?
[01:03] <bolshyYarblockos> rickard: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:03] <sergo> or in other words to install it in folder usr
[01:03] <Dr_willis> sergo,  you may want to clarify that question.
[01:03] <Code-E> !java wiki
[01:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java wiki - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <Flannel> !java
[01:03] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[01:03] <Dr_willis> sergo,  that makes more sence.. what are you installing?
[01:03] <bolshyYarblockos> rickard: back-up your old one first?
[01:03] <greymaiden> uhh, usr/sbin/hald exists, what else did you want me to do?
[01:03] <HellDragon> anyone know where is the file that apt-get saves the things, i need to modify it to repair something
[01:04] <ibob63> sorry my question should be "does anyone know how to get firefox to print without opening a dialog box first?"
[01:04] <HellDragon> a file with packages names .etc
[01:04] <HellDragon> informations on them
[01:04] <bolshyYarblockos> greymaiden: run it?
[01:04] <sjbrown> HellDragon, maybe /var/cache?
[01:04] <sergo> i want to install vyqchat-0.2.8
[01:04] <Flannel> HellDragon: /var/cache/apt
[01:04] <HellDragon> hm
[01:04] <Dr_willis> sergo,  when compiling from source normally  you can do a ./configure >some options here that i forget< to set the base install dir.
[01:05] <LjL> HellDragon: i would be wary of touching that stuff manyally, though...
[01:05] <HellDragon> it's not there
[01:05] <LjL> Dr_willis, sergo: i believe it's "--prefix=/usr", or "--prefix=/usr/bin"
[01:05] <Flannel> !tell sergo about compile
[01:05] <Dr_willis> prefix thats it...
[01:05] <Dr_willis> i never can rember that term.
[01:05] <zoredache> what are you trying to 'fix' HellDragon?  the list of available packages or?
[01:05] <HellDragon> zoredache: something i already fixed by modifying the file i'm searching
[01:06] <Dr_willis> ./configure  --prefix=/opt
[01:06] <sergo> Wow... there is an error checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[01:06] <Dr_willis> is common.
[01:06] <HellDragon> "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:06] <HellDragon> "
[01:06] <zoredache> I would guess what you really want is in /var/lib/dpkg
[01:06] <sergo> :(
[01:06] <sergo> :)
[01:06] <greymaiden> I get nothin
[01:06] <LjL> sergo: at any rate, you're usually supposed to install stuff that you compile yourself in /usr/local or /opt, rather than in /usr
[01:06] <HellDragon> :o yes thanks zoredache
[01:07] <Lunar_Lamp> i'm looking for a webcam to use with ubuntu - does anyone have any tips/recommendations?
[01:07] <sergo> :o
[01:07] <gimmulf> abrotman:  hmmm doesnt seem to work, but i want sendmail up and running so it can send mail not just locally
[01:07] <sergo> why the ubuntu doesn't seen cyrillic?
[01:07] <gimmulf> How do i setup sendmail to send emails just not locally?
[01:07] <sergo> :(
[01:08] <sergo> i have an russian cd with music, and russian character are not supported, why?
[01:08] <sergo> my default system language is russian
[01:08] <brandini> Dr_willis: I'm afraid I need more help....
[01:08] <brandini> Dr_willis: I've edited Grub a bit and it still won't boot windows.... they are on separate drives same channel
[01:09] <erUSUL> !ru
[01:09] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[01:09] <dainanaki> hi guys, I'm having some resolution problems, can anyone help me out?
[01:09] <Yaakov>  
[01:09] <PPAAUULL> Hello
[01:09] <Dr_willis> brandini,  :P  most likely you got grub naming wrong.. where is the windows drive at?
[01:10] <Dr_willis> brandini,  first drive on hda, ect...
[01:10] <Yaakov> OK. That was silly.
[01:10] <Code-E> lol I just had to reset my default java environment
[01:10] <PPAAUULL> How would I Mount a NTFS partition on a seprate HD?
[01:10] <sergo> Yaakov: 
[01:10] <sergo> ;0
[01:10] <sergo> :)
[01:10] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[01:10] <Code-E> !restricted format
[01:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restricted format - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:10] <Code-E> !restricted formats
[01:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:10] <Dr_willis> PPAAUULL,  edit the fstab.. create the correct entry.
[01:11] <Yaakov> sergo: As it turns out, I am not Russian and can't speak the language.
[01:11] <brandini> Dr_willis: I think I've got it
[01:11] <Dr_willis> brandini,  good :P
[01:11] <brandini> Dr_willis: it's hda1 and xubuntu is hdb1
[01:11] <brandini> ok
[01:11] <dainanaki> I'm having some resolution problems, can anyone help me out?
[01:11] <erUSUL> !fixres
[01:11] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:11] <PPAAUULL> Thanks
[01:11] <Dr_willis> brandini,  that would be hd0,0 and hd1,0 in grub talk.
[01:11] <bolshyYarblockos> greymaiden: you said pidof hald had output? what was it?
[01:11] <brandini> Dr_willis: yeah, but I need the map (hd0) (hd1) stuff
[01:12] <condeh> Hi, Im thinking of installing Ubuntu 6.06 onto an IBM T22. I heard there are problems with Savage S3 video. Anyone confirm this/advise? Thanks.
[01:12] <greymaiden> 9012
[01:12] <Dr_willis> brandini,  if windows is on the first drive. why do you need to remap it?
[01:12] <brandini> Dr_willis: it's on the 1 drive... which is second ;-)
[01:12] <Dr_willis> brandini,  yo u just err.. said the opposite. :P i think
[01:13] <Code-E> Can anyone tell me the name of a good media player
[01:13] <brandini> Oh :)
[01:13] <Dr_willis> lol
[01:13] <Dr_willis> Code-E,  depends on the media
[01:13] <greymaiden> dammit, I gotta go :\
[01:13] <ubutom> condeh, i dont know about IBM T22, but in my Fujitsu Siemens laptop is a s3 and it works fine (just2D), but thats ok, since this gfx card doesnt even have good drivers for windows :)
[01:13] <greymaiden> Thanks for your time bolsy, but my husband is being annoying and won't let me work on bug fixes anymore.
[01:13] <Flannel> condeh: while the T22 isn't listed, you can check for comperable comonents: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsIBM
[01:13] <gimmulf> How do i send an email in terminal using mail/sendmail ?
[01:13] <Code-E> Dr_willis mp3's mostly
[01:14] <bolshyYarblockos> greymaiden: sorry I couldn't help
[01:14] <Xenguy> Code-E: for video, install both gxine + vlc + w32codecs (works for me)
[01:14] <condeh> Flannel & ubutom : Thanks
[01:14] <Xenguy> Code-E: for mp3's and ogg, I use xmms
[01:14] <Code-E> Xenguy I'm looking for mp3 player
[01:14] <cartufer> how can i get to a samba share from terminal?
[01:14] <Code-E> oh
[01:14] <Dr_willis> Code-E,  theres dozens of mp3 players out there.. xmms, beep-media-player, juke, amarok, ect.. depemnds on what featres ya want
[01:14] <Xenguy> ^^^
[01:14] <Lam_> i know hibernate is kind of buggy, but does suspend work?
[01:14] <gimmulf> How do i send an email in terminal using mail/sendmail ?
[01:14] <Dr_willis> cartufer,  you mean mount the share to a directory?
[01:15] <cartufer> ya
[01:15] <Code-E> Dr_willis can i use apt-get install to install xmms
[01:15] <Xenguy> Code-E: fussy people seem to prefer other apps (amarok?) but xmms works for me
[01:15] <sjbrown> gimmulf, just use the mail command?
[01:15] <erUSUL> gimmulf: man mail ??
[01:15] <Lam_> totem-gstreamer or totem-xine?
[01:15] <gimmulf> sjbrown: tried that but didnt figure out how
[01:15] <sjbrown> Code-E, the best is mpg123
[01:15] <Code-E> um thanks sjbrown
[01:16] <sjbrown> you don't need an in-your-face gui
[01:16] <sjbrown> ;)
[01:16] <Adept2point0> is anyone here experienced with sedega?
[01:16] <Adept2point0> *cedega
[01:16] <kitche> sedega? do you mean cedega
[01:16] <Code-E> One more question:P: is it possible to use Windows drivers so that I can use my printer?
[01:16] <kitche> Adept2point0 well what's your question exactly
[01:16] <viator> Code E what is your prionter
[01:16] <Dr_willis> I cant find that url to this Java based media player i found once.. it had a nice interface like amarok/juke/ect. :P
[01:16] <sjbrown> gimmulf, well you can pipe cat to it, that's one way
[01:16] <gekko`> if i copy my whole hdd to another one with the dd-command, does it also copy the MBR?
[01:16] <Adept2point0> yes, cedega, i'm about to smash my computer and go back to windows, this is getting pretty frustrating
[01:16] <HellDragon> why i always get error when i try to install gzip
[01:17] <sjbrown> gimmulf, where did you get stuck?
[01:17] <Code-E> viator: its a lexmark x2350
[01:17] <cartufer> how can i get to a samba share from terminal?
[01:17] <Lam_> i know hibernate is kind of buggy, but does suspend work?
[01:17] <Adept2point0> i bought the program, installed it just fine, and the program i had wanted to install was in a zip folder, so i unzipped the whole thing, setup.exe as well to my desktop
[01:17] <gimmulf> sjbrown: i didnt get thaat far :)
[01:17] <Adept2point0> i enter all that information it asks for, click continue, and nothing happens
[01:17] <gimmulf> sjbrown:  how would the command look like?=
[01:17] <Dr_willis> cartufer,  you can mount them with the proper use of the mount command, then access them as a normal directory
[01:17] <HellDragon> yay fixed
[01:17] <HellDragon> it tried to install it and it was already here
[01:17] <cartufer> yes, how i do that?
[01:17] <Dr_willis> cartufer,  i tend to cheat and use 'smb4k' to browse/mount shares.
[01:17] <HellDragon> it kept trying*
[01:17] <gimmulf> sjbrown:  echo "blah" | mail mail@email.com  ?
[01:17] <THX-1138> !samba
[01:17] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:17] <sjbrown> gimmulf, cat "This is the body of my email" | mail -s "this is the subject of my email" foo@bar.com
[01:18] <sjbrown> oops yeah, echo
[01:18] <sjbrown> not cat
[01:18] <Dr_willis> cartufer,  the 'using samba' book is aviliable online with examples.
[01:18] <THX-1138> man mount 8
[01:18] <Code-E> Is it possible to use windows drivers for printers?
[01:18] <Dr_willis> Code-E,  not very likely
[01:18] <Code-E> darn
[01:18] <cartufer> ya, i can get it easy from gui, but not terminal, unless someone knows the dapper drake root password
[01:19] <gimmulf> sjbrown:  it doesnt work its just like sendmail/mail isnt confiigured to send mails non-local
[01:19] <Dr_willis> cartufer,  there is none.
[01:19] <Dr_willis> cartufer,  sudo -s to get a root shell
[01:19] <sjbrown> gimmulf, any error?
[01:19] <gimmulf> sjbrown:  nope
[01:19] <Xenguy> !root > cartufer
[01:19] <sjbrown> gimmulf, anything in /var/log/mail/errors
[01:19] <sjbrown> ?
[01:19] <Adept2point0> any ideas?
[01:19] <viator> look here
[01:20] <viator> http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-x2350
[01:20] <Yaakov> gimmulf: sendmail can be used directly, if you are trying to test it.  sendmail <recipent> ENTER from: you@whatever RETURN subject: this is the subject RETURN this is the body RETURN . RETURN
[01:20] <gimmulf> sjbrown:  nope
[01:20] <viator> code e you dont need windows driver
[01:20] <Code-E> viator: what?
[01:20] <Yaakov> gimmulf: The . alone on a line ends the message.
[01:20] <THX-1138> I enabled a shared folder in ubuntu using the gui and goofed up the default for shared windows folders on other networked machines. - the other machines folders vanished
[01:20] <Code-E> viator: theres no linux driver for it to my knowledgfe
[01:21] <Yaakov> gimmulf: I switched from ENTER to RETURN there, they are the same, sorry.
[01:21] <gimmulf> Yaakov:  when i type sendmail email@adress.com <ENTER> nothing happens it just waits
[01:21] <Yaakov> It should.
[01:21] <Yaakov> Start typing, as I showed.
[01:21] <Lam_> totem-gstreamer or totem-xine?
[01:21] <kitche> gimmulf: it will since sendmail is a mail server
[01:21] <Yaakov> gimmulf: Sendmail isn't really intended to be used directly, it isn't "friendly".
[01:21] <viator> linux printing says it works
[01:21] <viator> perfectly
[01:22] <Code-E> link please?
[01:22] <gimmulf> .
[01:22] <Kojima-Kazuma> Where do i put files for the synaptic manager
[01:22] <viator> http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-x2350
[01:22] <THX-1138> !printing
[01:22] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:22] <Code-E> thank you
[01:22] <Lam_> can anyone tell me where the 'man'uals are stored?
[01:22] <THX-1138> ;)
[01:22] <Dr_willis> Kojima-Kazuma,  what files?
[01:22] <THX-1138> gutenprint is a vast improvement.
[01:23] <sjbrown> Lam_, man man
[01:23] <Dr_willis> /usr/share/man
[01:23] <Lam_> neat. thanks
[01:23] <Kojima-Kazuma> when you go into the synaptic manager they have a bunch of install files and i found the install file for rar so where do i put it
[01:23] <Dr_willis> info man :P
[01:23] <Bird> Everytime I try to change the volume I get an error saying I must run gst-register first. How do I run gst-register?
[01:23] <bl4cktone> Hey guys something odd is happening, I don't get the outlines of my windows and I'm missing my multi deskop displays y'know 1-4 it was working fine last time I booted anyone know what happened?
[01:23] <Dr_willis> Kojima-Kazuma,  you are doing this the hard way
[01:24] <viator> the driver it uses isnt  specifically for your printer
[01:24] <viator> but ut works
[01:24] <Kojima-Kazuma> okay whats the easy way
[01:24] <viator> it*
[01:24] <THX-1138> Bird - i am just curious, What happens when you run alsamixer?
[01:24] <Dr_willis> Kojima-Kazuma,  sudo  synaptic, search for rar, check the rar paclages mark them to be installed  and click applty
[01:24] <Dr_willis> Kojima-Kazuma,  they shoudl get auto-downloaded and installed
[01:24] <bl4cktone> I can't even seem to drag my windows around
[01:25] <THX-1138> oops - too many nerdy cli apps.
[01:25] <viator> if ppl want to play hardcore games they should buy a console
[01:25] <Dr_willis> !info rar
[01:25] <ubotu> rar: Archiver for .rar files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.30-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 236 kB, installed size 476 kB (Only available for i386)
[01:25] <Kojima-Kazuma> they don't have rar
[01:25] <Kojima-Kazuma> that is why i got the install file
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> bl4cktone: Did you have xgl installed, Hopefully you never used the Automatix script Change anything else of interest?
[01:25] <Dr_willis> Kojima-Kazuma,  then you need to update your  repositories - see how that says      In component multiverse,
[01:25] <Dr_willis> Its in the "multiverse" repository
[01:25] <Kojima-Kazuma> wah?
[01:26] <bl4cktone> I do have xgl installed, and I do have automatix installed I updated it last session I think but haven't installed anything from it for a while
[01:26] <linuxpoet> Why would openoffice only run if I was root, even though as a user I can execute oowriter it just never shows up on the screen
[01:26] <Dr_willis> !repo
[01:26] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> bl4cktone: I would see if you can get help in XGL or Automatix...
[01:26] <linuxpoet> If I am root openoffice will start normally
[01:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !xgl
[01:27] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:27] <Dr_willis> Kojima-Kazuma,  fire up synaptic and enable the multiverse and other repositories, then the other programs should be there.
[01:27] <Kojima-Kazuma> where do i enable multiverse
[01:27] <Flannel> !tell Kojima-Kazuma about multiverse
[01:27] <Dr_willis> Kojima-Kazuma,  synaptic -> settings -> repositories   (logical eh?)
[01:28] <sc0tty> linuxpoet: it can happen if OOo uses a file, or a dir, that is only accessible by root
[01:28] <Flannel> linuxpoet: probably because you ran it as root once, and it wrote some configuration file somewhere that now it can't read
[01:28] <sc0tty> I've seen weird bugs like that once or twice
[01:28] <linuxpoet> ahh hell
[01:28] <sc0tty> you remove completely
[01:28] <Code-E> Iz there any way to tweak download speed or anything
[01:28] <Flannel> linuxpoet: we talking about root root? or sudo root?
[01:28] <sc0tty> and reinstall
[01:28] <Code-E> its currently slow as heck through the terminal
[01:28] <Code-E> :(
[01:28] <linuxpoet> sudo root (I don't ever root root)
[01:29] <Flannel> linuxpoet: right, go to your home dir, ls -al and check for stuff owned by root
[01:29] <sc0tty> ls -al | grep root
[01:29] <Flannel> linuxpoet: And next time, never run graphical programs with sudo, use gksudo
[01:29] <linuxpoet> I didn't do it as sudo until I had a problem :)
[01:29] <rus1> Flannel: What's the difference? Why shouldn't you run graphical programs with sudo?
[01:30] <Flannel> rus1: they set up environments differently
[01:30] <Flannel> rus1: the most common problem is Xauthority or ICEauthority being owned by root, and then when youre normal user, you can't read it
[01:30] <Kojima-Kazuma> Thanks alot
[01:30] <rus1> Flannel, I guess I'll take your word that it's bad.
[01:32] <rus1> On a related (?) note, I want to use my scanner, but xsane won't find it unless I run it with sudo or gksudo, but when I do run it that way, it gives me all sorts of warnings that I'm doing something really stupid.
[01:32] <rus1> Should I be worried?
[01:32] <sc0tty> rus1: is your user allowed to use such devices ?
[01:33] <rus1> sc0tty: How do I tell, and if not, how do I change that?
[01:33] <linuxpoet> I think your user needs to be a part of the scanner group
[01:33] <cartufer> dr_willis, still not getting progress
[01:33] <sc0tty> rus1: System>Administration>Users and Groups
[01:33] <rus1> I just want to get images from my scanner, and I've found running xsane with gksudo to work, if there's a better way let me know.
[01:33] <Dr_willis> cartufer,  ive fogotten what the problem even is/was. :P
[01:34] <sc0tty> select your user
[01:34] <sc0tty> properties, then 3rd tab User privileges
[01:34] <sc0tty> make sure "user scanner devices" is checked
[01:34] <cartufer> mounting smb or user switching in gui to root
[01:34] <rus1> sc0tty: It is checked.
[01:35] <rus1> It already was.
[01:35] <Dr_willis> cartufer,  'sudo -s' should get you a root shell
[01:35] <sc0tty> that's pretty much all I had, sorry
[01:35] <rus1> That's okay.
[01:35] <cartufer> ya
[01:35] <sc0tty> I don't have a scanner , so I can't check or try to reproduce
[01:35] <viator> chmod xsane
[01:35] <cartufer> i prefer sudo su, but i don't need root terminal, i need to logoff user and switch to root
[01:35] <sc0tty> can you run xsane as your user ?
[01:36] <rus1> Yes, I can run xsane as my user
[01:36] <rus1> But when it scans for devices, it comes up empty.
[01:36] <sc0tty> hhm
[01:36] <Denstark> Hey there, quick question.. I just need to convert a file from unencoded video to divx... how do I do that?
[01:37] <viator> or chown it
[01:37] <Dr_willis> cartufer,  ugh.. why do you need to do that?
[01:37] <rus1> viator: I can run xsane just fine.
[01:37] <Dr_willis> cartufer, http://www.faqs.org/docs/samba/ch05.html     - guide for mounting samba shares from the command line.
[01:37] <rus1> viator: Would chown/chmod ing it help it find the scanner that's attached?
[01:37] <sc0tty> rus1: uncheck the run xsane thing in the removable media menu
[01:37] <cartufer> my hard drive ate itself, so i'm in live cd dapper drake, and mounted ntfs at /tmp/disks-conf-hda1 but it needs root
[01:37] <viator> ok the user can use it but it finds no device
[01:38] <sc0tty> and unplug, plug your scanner
[01:38] <viator> but root or superuser finds a device
[01:38] <linuxpoet> aha!
[01:38] <linuxpoet> I found the problem with openoffice
[01:38] <rus1> What is the removable media menu?
[01:38] <Dr_willis> cartufer,  you can go to the console and connet as the root user i thought
[01:38] <linuxpoet> I love strace
[01:38] <sc0tty> rus1: it's in System>Pref>
[01:38] <yip> Hello everyone, I am woundering if somebody can help me on installing ATI proproprietary driver on my Ubuntu 64 bit. Previously, i have installed it quite a lot of times. Everytime i install it, it can boot up. Xorg.conf file is running fglrx driver. However, when I do 'fglrxinfo', my system crash (freeze). I need to do a hard reset to reboot my system. I also tried to load screensave. it also freeze my system. Therefore, I am looking fo
[01:38] <yip> r help here.
[01:38] <cartufer> yes, thats y i need to mount samba, in gui no problem, but in shell i can't find it
[01:39] <whurley> any Ubuntu server experts in the house (and willing to pm me to try and help with an issue)?
[01:39] <linuxpoet> On my openoffice issue, just so people know, you can use strace oowriter to find out which file it is hanging on and then fix that file
[01:39] <linuxpoet> My problem was the OSL socket in /tmp
[01:39] <Dr_willis> cartufer,  mount it to a direcgory like that url shows. :P
[01:39] <Dr_willis> cartufer,  # smbmount //maya/e /smb/e  -o "credentials=/home/jay/.smbpw,uid=jay,gid=jay,fmask=664,dmask=775"
[01:39] <rdz> hi all. i want to insert an image in a html-formatted mail with evolution, but it does only put the link to the image on my computer, but not attach the image itself. how can i really insert an image?
[01:40] <rus1> So wait, xsane is supposedly running when I plug in my scanner?
[01:40] <Dr_willis> cartufer,  # sudo smbmount //maya/e /smb/e
[01:40] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:40] <sc0tty> rus1: yes
[01:40] <sc0tty> every time I think
[01:40] <rus1> sc0tty: I'm pretty sure it doesn't.
[01:40] <rus1> Yeah, it doesn't. I tried it.
[01:41] <sc0tty> well if the option is checked , it should
[01:41] <rus1> It is, it doesn't.
[01:41] <rus1> The scanner is actually a printer/scanner combo.
[01:41] <rus1> But it works fine when running xsane as super user.
[01:42] <sc0tty> bah ... my gnome is acting up again :@
[01:42] <sc0tty> I keep having this weird focus bug ... :@
[01:43] <viator> rus what scanner is it
[01:43] <sc0tty> gotta restart gnome
[01:43] <sc0tty> brb
[01:43] <rus1> It's an Epson stylus cx4800 printer/scanner.
[01:43] <dipnlik> hi all. when i enter gnome, i have to kill an atieventsd process that uses 100% of cpu. how can I make it never appear again?
[01:44] <rus1> Print and scan both work without a hitch out of the box under Ubuntu, except for the necessity of running xsane as sudo
[01:44] <Megaqwerty> !wpa
[01:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:45] <guyevert> how can i shut down the x-server in ubuntu desktop?? i want to install the nvidia drivers
[01:45] <viator> heh
[01:46] <THX-1138> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop  then ALT+Backspace then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ??
[01:46] <viator> i found a few links desribing having to run as root
[01:46] <viator> for sanning
[01:46] <viator> but nothing thats solved the problem
[01:46] <THX-1138> !display
[01:46] <ladydoor> guyevert: ctrl+alt+f1, then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:46] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:46] <THX-1138> more good info there..
[01:46] <ladydoor> guyevert: then you can proceed to install the drivers.
[01:46] <unawokendreamer> hi?
[01:46] <cartufer> dr_wilis, thanks, but smbmount //emachine/c /mnt was enough
[01:47] <guyevert> ladydoor: thanks
[01:47] <viator> just try changing ownership of sane and xsane see it it works
[01:47] <ladydoor> unawokendreamer: not sure whether to say hello?
[01:47] <viator> never know
[01:47] <rus1> viator: It's no big deal, but it does give me some pretty harsh "you're totally going to mess up your computer if you do this!" warnings when I run it as sudo.
[01:47] <rukuartic> hyar... Does anyone have any clue why the side scroll on my laptop's touch pad would have stopped running?
[01:47] <viator> hmm
[01:47] <rus1> viator: You think I should change ownership to me?
[01:48] <jrib> ubotu: tell unawokendreamer about multimedia
[01:48] <rus1> And how can I tell what they WERE owned by so that I can change it back if it doesn't work?
[01:48] <unawokendreamer> hi um I need the drivers for the movie and music players?
[01:48] <shwag> could evolution possibly run any slower ?
[01:48] <Megaqwerty> I've been having problems with the "network-manager-gnome" it would seem that it is preventing some programs from assigning addresses, and opening ports (i.e."Error: Failed to start listener: Cannot assign requested address") do any of you know how I could fix this? Oh, and I'm sure it is network-manager-gnome as these programs work fine after I uninstall it.
[01:48] <jrib> unawokendreamer: check your private messages from ubotu, he sent you the info
[01:49] <rus1> shwag: that's a funny question if you don't know what evolution is in the linux sense...
[01:49] <unawokendreamer> sorry, juts exed it out can it be resent
[01:49] <unawokendreamer> ?
[01:49] <jrib> unawokendreamer: $10 for resends
[01:49] <unawokendreamer> what?
[01:49] <jrib> unawokendreamer: just kidding :)
[01:49] <viator> yes
[01:49] <viator> On a correctly configured Linux system only the root operator has permission to access the scanner device
[01:49] <shwag> rus1: i noticed that after i hit enter
[01:49] <rukuartic> Megaqwerty: You might be trying to assign an IP address to your computer that another computer already has.
[01:49] <jrib> ubotu: tell unawokendreamer about multimedia
[01:49] <kitche> multimedia > unawokendreamer
[01:49] <kitche> opps for got the !
[01:49] <viator> according to sane site
[01:49] <dipnlik> EI
[01:50] <dipnlik> (sorry)
[01:50] <rus1> viator: So why does it give me such evil sounding warnings if I try to run it as root so it can see the scanner?
[01:50] <rus1> That doesn't make sense.
[01:50] <Megaqwerty> jrib: that isn't possible, as the ip it is trying to assign is: 127.0.0.1 the loopback connection
[01:50] <viator> oh
[01:50] <viator> set a group password for scanner group
[01:50] <viator> maybe
[01:50] <Megaqwerty> jrib: it is also trying to tag a port onto it
[01:51] <jrib> Megaqwerty: you sure you have the right person?
[01:51] <Megaqwerty> oh, whoops sorry
[01:51] <rus1> I gotta go, but thanks to everyone for trying to figure out this problem.
[01:51] <viator> later rus
[01:51] <briguyd> what's a good, somewhat lightweight, music player/organizer that is capable of handling 200+ GB libraries somewhat speedily?
[01:51] <Megaqwerty> rukuartic: that isn't possible, as the ip it is trying to assign is: 127.0.0.1 the loopback connection
[01:52] <rus1> briguyd: Is Amrok speedy?
[01:52] <briguyd> rus1, not on a Pentium 3
[01:52] <viator> i use banshee
[01:53] <viator> works fine
[01:53] <jatt> briguyd: I guess handling 200GB of music in xmms is a nightmare (if ever possible) I would use amarok for that.
[01:53] <viator> not as flashy though
[01:53] <briguyd> anyone try either listen or songbird?
[01:53] <briguyd> flashiness is not an issue for me
[01:53] <viator> i tried songbird on windows
[01:53] <dipnlik> briguyd: listen looks fine but doesn't have ratings, so CRAP
[01:53] <Code-E> omg yay i can play t3h musix
[01:54] <kitche> briguyd: songbird isn't really stable right now at least for linux
[01:54] <dipnlik> briguyd: i suggest gmusicbrowser
[01:54] <Lunar_Lamp> songbird could be great; but not yet on linux
[01:54] <viator> i was talking to some developers of songbird int heir forums
[01:54] <viator> about making an itunes store extension
[01:55] <kitche> well it's on linux you just have to compile if Lunar_Lamp
[01:55] <dipnlik> briguyd: not on the repos, but very good. just don't edit tags if you're plannig to use extended characters - it screwed my korean song titles once
[01:55] <Lunar_Lamp> kitche - what i meant was that it's not good on linux yet - not very stable
[01:55] <dirtyred40160> hello all
[01:55] <briguyd> how's banshee?
[01:56] <cartufer> cp: omitting directory `/tmp/disks-conf-hda1' wut am i doing wrong?
[01:56] <Lunar_Lamp> briguyd - when you say that amarok is too slow, have you tried chaging from the default database?
[01:56] <Megaqwerty> rukuartic? You still here?
[01:56] <kitche> birguyd: and chaning the player it uses
[01:57] <viator> i dont do much except add downloaded mp3's  and listen to them etc
[01:57] <briguyd> Lunar_Lamp, no, the app itself, not the database
[01:57] <viator> if you install the plugins for banshee
[01:57] <briguyd> im on an 8 year old laptop
[01:57] <viator> for metadata and maybe audioscrobbler if you do that
[01:57] <viator> its ok
[01:58] <Megaqwerty> I've been having problems with the "network-manager-gnome" it would seem that it is preventing some programs from assigning addresses, and opening ports (i.e."Error: Failed to start listener: Cannot assign requested address") do any of you know how I could fix this? Oh, and I'm sure it is network-manager-gnome as these programs work fine after I uninstall it.
[01:58] <amicrawle> does any body have a source list i can have lost mine while playing a round
[01:58] <jrib> ubotu: tell amicrawle about easysource
[01:59] <jrib> cartufer: cp -a  (see man cp)
[01:59] <briguyd> amicrawle, theres one on http://www.ubuntuguide.org that should be good
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource
[01:59] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:59] <cartufer> cp: missing file operand
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> sorry jrib..  Half asleep here.. one long day
[01:59] <Megaqwerty> anyone?
[02:00] <jrib> cartufer: what did you type exactly?
[02:00] <HELLOJOE> Hey, I just installed Windows Vista Beta 2, and now grub seems to be missing. How do I readd Linux to the MBR?
[02:00] <o0vapermonkey0o> hi all
[02:00] <jrib> Jack_Sparrow: np, same here
[02:00] <gnomefreak> jrib: looks like cp -a
[02:00] <gnomefreak> i just did it :)
[02:00] <cartufer> root@ubuntu:/mnt# cp -u "/tmp/disks-conf-hda1" "/mnt/adam hard drive"
[02:00] <cartufer> cp: omitting directory `/tmp/disks-conf-hda1'
[02:01] <o0vapermonkey0o> having a little problem with my nvidia card i used the wiki to do it and i am getting a err who wants to help
[02:01] <amicrawle> Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:01] <amicrawle> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[02:01] <amicrawle> that's what i get if i update my list
[02:01] <jrib> cartufer: you need the a to copy directories
[02:01] <cartufer> thx
[02:01] <gnomefreak> amicrawle: either running apt in a terminal or have synaptic open
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> ubotu: tell HELLOJOE about grub
[02:01] <gnomefreak> amicrawle: the rest of the error should say is another process using it
[02:02] <meemoo> hi, i am having problems to change my screen resolution in GNOME i want to have 1280x1024 but the pref-menu in Gnome just shows 640x480 up tp 1024x768. i installed nvidia open gldriver and it works. i also edited xorg.conf and added my prefered resolution for all color depths but it doesn't appear in Gnome. Whats wrong? thanks
[02:02] <amicrawle> just a termail open
[02:02] <amicrawle> do i need to reboot my box
[02:02] <amicrawle> ?
[02:02] <gnomefreak> amicrawle: your not running updates, synaptic, apt-get, or dpkg any where else?
[02:03] <bl4cktone> Hey guys I did Firefox_DSP="aoss" in my firefoxrc the sound was working for a while but now it stopped, does someone know what might have happened?
[02:03] <amicrawle> nope
[02:03] <ClayG> any math gurus in here?
[02:03] <amicrawle> i just have a  shell open
[02:03] <hiffy> say folks, that i wanted to run a given version of windows virtualised.
[02:03] <hiffy> What would I use?
[02:03] <gnomefreak> ClayG: you have a calculator in the menu
[02:03] <Megaqwerty> ClayG: That would depend, what kind of math?
[02:03] <jrib> ClayG: you know there is #math :)
[02:03] <LjL> hiffy: qemu, or vmware
[02:03] <gnomefreak> amicrawle: not sure why your getting that error than
[02:03] <amicrawle> sudo apt-get update
[02:03] <amicrawle> that;s what i do
[02:04] <viator> megaqwerty youve had this problem since before sept14th
[02:04] <ClayG> gnomefreak i use gcalctool works well
[02:04] <gnomefreak> ClayG: the hint was this is a ubuntu support channel not a math channel ;)
[02:04] <ClayG> i dont know how to figure this , using a calc or not
[02:04] <Megaqwerty> viator: yes, I probably have, however I have now narrowed it down the the actual cause of the problem
[02:04] <ClayG> i guess i mean i dont know the formula , does that make sense?
[02:04] <gnomefreak> ClayG: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:05] <ClayG> gnomefreak,  ok
[02:05] <ClayG> im asking in math
[02:05] <ClayG> thanks for the tip
[02:05] <viator> to get the network manqager working did you have to edit /etc/network/interfaces   ?
[02:05] <ClayG> MeGaQuArK,
[02:05] <ClayG> er the other mega thanks , im in #math
[02:05] <ClayG> gnome im not asking in here, lol
[02:05] <hiffy> LjL: which version of vmware would I use?
[02:06] <Megaqwerty> viator: yeah, I only did it that way
[02:06] <Megaqwerty> why?
[02:06] <LjL> hiffy: well, you basically have two choice -- you can use the "vmware-player" that comes in the Ubuntu repositories, or you can use (and install manually) whatever version comes from the official site
[02:06] <viator> you commented out everything
[02:06] <viator> except
[02:06] <LjL> hiffy: i personally find it easier to use the vmware-player package
[02:06] <viator> loopback
[02:06] <Megaqwerty> viator: except the lo
[02:06] <Megaqwerty> yeah
[02:06] <viator> ok
[02:06] <Pierre> hiffy, what's about the latest, 5.5 (no choice if you run under amd64)
[02:07] <meemoo> hiffy: ubuntu package didn't work for me, but the installer you can download from vmware.com ist straight forward and working well
[02:07] <hiffy> hmm.
[02:07] <LjL> hiffy: note that vmware-player does not allow *creating* virtual machines, but only running them... however, all it boils down to is creating a config file and an empty virtual HD -- there are sites that can do this automatically for you
[02:07] <viator> and the application you are refferingto
[02:07] <viator> wht is it
[02:07] <hiffy> See, I gots me a vista iso that I think it'd be funny to install (I have no dvd player so its not like i can burn it )
[02:07] <meemoo> hehe, i tried it on vmware, didnt work for me
[02:07] <hiffy> damn
[02:07] <meemoo> maybe you'll have to play with settings
[02:07] <meemoo> i didn't bother to
[02:07] <hiffy> an overnight's download and a sign up to a useless newsletter for nothing!
[02:08] <ClayG> i love #math there is no man or google to hide behind, lol Megaqwerty  THANKS!
[02:08] <sergo> hello : a question about Local area connection ; how to know the name of a computer by his IP, is possible?
[02:08] <hiffy> LjL: aight thanks
[02:08] <hiffy> and whattabout qemu? has anyone given that one a shot?
[02:08] <gnomefreak> ClayG: stop with the offtopic chat its getting old.
[02:08] <LjL> hiffy: qemu is much slower, unless you use the kqemu accelerator module (which is not open-source, though)
[02:09] <Megaqwerty> viator: I'm going to open private chat, because I keep missing your responses
[02:09] <LjL> !tell hiffy about kqemu
[02:09] <Pierre> hiffy, if it fails in vmware, forget about qemu. qemu is not a complete VM, you will have more troubles
[02:09] <meemoo> hi, i am having problems to change my screen resolution in GNOME i want to have 1280x1024 but the pref-menu in Gnome just shows 640x480 up tp 1024x768. i installed nvidia open gldriver and it works. i also edited xorg.conf and added my prefered resolution for all color depths but it doesn't appear in Gnome. Whats wrong? thanks
[02:09] <loren95404>  Is there a driver that allows windows to read/write ResierFS?
[02:09] <LjL> Pierre: what do you mean it's not a complete vm?
[02:09] <ClayG> gnomefreak, ok you are right.  I do have one I could use your help on
[02:09] <gnomefreak> !fixres > meemoo
[02:10] <ClayG> how do i make getmail keep my messages/mails on the server instead of erasing them
[02:10] <ClayG> ?>
[02:10] <ClayG> I'm having a real time trying to get mutt and getmail (er also ssmtp) working right
[02:10] <meemoo> gnomefreak: tnx
[02:10] <hiffy> slower you say. So whats the difference b/w vmware server and player?
[02:10] <hiffy> i was under the impression both were free.
[02:11] <Pierre> hiffy, server is another thing. You need VMWare workstation
[02:11] <sergo> how to join on local \\172.16.1.1 ?
[02:11] <LjL> hiffy: both are, yeah, but server doesn't come with an ubuntu package, so it's manual installation (which *i* would avoid, since i prefer to keep my system cleaner, but that's just me)
[02:11] <Code-E> Anybody know how to install a driver for lexmark x2350
[02:11] <gnomefreak> ClayG: i know gmail has a setting in gmail for that. as for getmail i dont use but fetchyahoo does same and there isnt a way to stop it in fetchyahoo
[02:11] <Code-E> this linux printing says it works
[02:11] <LjL> hiffy: note they're both only "free" meaning gratis anyway, not open source
[02:11] <Code-E> but its telling me to use laserjet drivers
[02:12] <LjL> Pierre, server can work too
[02:12] <D4rkly> if i plug in a usb device and do lsusb and the device i just plugged in doesnt appear in the list is it broken or just not supported ?
[02:12] <ReinH> Hi folks :)
[02:12] <HELLOJOE> Wow. I got the Super Grub Disk file, and it's a bz2 file. How do I write that to a floppy?
[02:12] <ClayG> gnomefreak, I dont use gmail but if i ever do ill keep that in mind
[02:12] <Pierre> LjL, sure, but lowering the difficulties will save him some time (inderectly your time too :)
[02:12] <gnomefreak> ClayG: ok guess im done giving you hints
[02:12] <D4rkly> if i plug in a usb device and do lsusb and the device i just plugged in doesnt appear in the list is it broken or just not supported by the kernel ??
[02:12] <LjL> hiffy: the difference basically is that the player doesn't allow creating VMs - but as i said, they can be easily created externally.
[02:12] <gnomefreak> ClayG: whatever mail server you use look for that setting
[02:12] <LjL> Pierre: except Server is free, Workstation you have to buy...
[02:13] <Code-E> Anybody know?
[02:13] <ReinH> Not sure if this is the best place to ask, but does nvidia have a confgen program I can use to set up my xorg.conf for dual monitors?
[02:13] <Pierre> LjL, and you can create images using the server?
[02:13] <pollypocket> oh my god , dont take my frustrations personally ok. This problem with the dvd player is really pissing me off.
[02:13] <ClayG> gnomefreak, i misunderstood, i thought you werte talking about making changes to the server i am grabbing the mail instead of the getmail file
[02:13] <LjL> Pierre: yep
[02:13] <Pierre> oh
[02:13] <pollypocket> the disc mounts and then unmounts randomly
[02:13] <D4rkly> if i plug in a usb device and do lsusb and the device i just plugged in doesnt appear in the list is it broken or just not supported by the kernel ??
[02:13] <pollypocket> eject does not spit out the disc but eject -t does
[02:13] <Code-E> can anybody help me?
[02:13] <pollypocket> when the disc mounts it stays mounted for a bout 1 minute
[02:13] <Pierre> LjL, sounds like a good news, I thought it was not possible :)
[02:13] <ClayG> thats cool, where is the termcaps file i need to edit to change the default terminal size that launches, this is a gnome question
[02:13] <HELLOJOE> Are bz2 files something that don't work in Windows?
[02:14] <pollypocket> if the thing plays the movie it unexpectedly unmounts the disc and chokes
[02:14] <gnomefreak> ClayG: i am or you can look for the ~/.getmail file if there is one see if it has a setting in there
[02:14] <ClayG> i was told to find it, and cant...
[02:14] <LjL> Pierre: but still myself i just use the player. less hassle, and i feel more comfortable knowing the stuff i have installed all comes from the ubuntu reps...
[02:14] <pollypocket> what is going on with this problem and how can it be permanently stopped
[02:14] <pollypocket> is this a nautilus problem, a hardware problem some problem with "mount" or some out of no where I/O Error
[02:14] <hiffy> well what i mean was whether would server would allow the creation of vms
[02:14] <ClayG> hmm ill relook it
[02:14] <pollypocket>  it should be so basic as to never have a problem
[02:14] <hiffy> tho im starting to see this vista download as a waste of time
[02:14] <pollypocket>  but when basic cd-rom disc access doesnt work, it is enough to make me not want to use ubuntu at all cause i cant even copy files off of a cd
[02:14] <pollypocket> it doesnt matter what disc is used, it doesnt stay mounted
[02:14] <hiffy> LjL: and yeah I knew it was gratis only.
[02:14] <pollypocket> I need to have this disc access issue fixed or find another distro
[02:15] <hiffy> LjL: thanks for the info tho.
[02:15] <pollypocket> please help
[02:15] <ClayG> ok i need a paste bin
[02:15] <ClayG> anyone got on i can use
[02:15] <ReinH> ClayG: I like pastie.caboo.se
[02:15] <pollypocket> http:pastebin.ca
[02:15] <gnomefreak> pastebin.com
[02:15] <LjL> hiffy: well, it's good that you're starting to see it that way ;-)  j/k... anyway, now Pierre is saying he believed that Server doesn't allow creating VMs -- i was convinced of the contrary, but i might be mistaken
[02:15] <ClayG> ReinH, thanks
[02:15] <ReinH> but that's only because it's made with ruby
[02:15] <Code-E> can anybody help me with my printer for gawd sakes?
[02:16] <LjL> hiffy: anyway, vmplayer-player is at least worth a shot... after all, just the single command "sudo aptitude install vmware-player" will get it installed
[02:16] <kromel> anyone know what permission /proc/asound/version should have?  currently it's at +r +r +r
[02:16] <ClayG> awsome, found it
[02:16] <ClayG> it looks like it is on of the top lines in !
[02:17] <ClayG> delete = true
[02:17] <ClayG> http://pastie.caboo.se/15225
[02:17] <ClayG> guess i should make that false, huh
[02:17] <ClayG> cool, see gnomefreak you helped someone on accident
[02:17] <o0vapermonkey0o> how do i edit my xorg.conf file it will not let me save it
[02:17] <hiffy> LjL: I suppose you could say that. Feh. Much like say extra large packets of M&Ms, I have to resist impulse downloads as well
[02:17] <jackson> how do I control my laptop's hard drive speeds and/or sleep states?
[02:18] <ClayG> looks like it was in (for me at least) /home/clay/.getmail/getmailrc
[02:18] <Code-E> :@
[02:18] <ClayG> need to get ssmtp working and im all set for now
[02:18] <CzarAlex> What package do I need to install to run an IRC server?
[02:18] <ClayG> anyone use ssmtp or know fo a good smtp app
[02:18] <LjL> hiffy: heh, well anyway a site where you can create VMs for the player is at http://www.easyvmx.com/
[02:18] <ClayG> for the cli
[02:18] <ClayG> anyone got a recommendation
[02:18] <gnomefreak> ClayG: there is no such thing as accident. most local config files are in ~/.
[02:19] <ladydoor> ClayG: msmtp is easy to set up
[02:19] <ClayG> ladydoor, ill check that out
[02:19] <Code-E> @:@@:@:@
[02:19] <o0vapermonkey0o> i try sudo xorg.conf did not work
[02:20] <ClayG> ladydoor, once msmtp or which ever the person uses is set up, how does mutt know to invoke it when sending?
[02:20] <ClayG> muttrc?
[02:20] <pollypocket> has anyone come across the disc i/o error and unmounting in the middle of playing ?
[02:20] <o0vapermonkey0o> any ideas to edit that file i am new to linux just want my video card to work right
[02:20] <ladydoor> ClayG: in .muttrc, set sendmail=/usr/bin/msmtp
[02:20] <hiffy> LjL: huzzah mate. Thank god for google
[02:20] <ClayG> ladydoor, thanks again...
[02:21] <ladydoor> ClayG: np
[02:21] <sergo> tell me please.. i have samba installed ... how to enter to local pc from my lan \\172.16.1.1?
[02:21] <ladydoor> hiffy: or, more productively, thank the google dev team for google (and while you're doing it, perhaps politely ask that they move toward free-software'ing it)
[02:21] <ClayG> ladydoor, im looking for msmtprc is that right?
[02:21] <ClayG> to edit?
[02:22] <ladydoor> ClayG: .msmtprc, yes. doing man msmtp will be helpful as far as seeing some of your options (and sample configs)
[02:22] <hiffy> ladydoor: the new threat to opensource aint people running away with GPL code, it's webserives
[02:22] <hiffy> *webservices
[02:23] <hiffy> I figured that one out a few weeks before the first /. story on it, so I'll just keep on saying, I thought of it first.
[02:23] <ClayG> ladydoor, hate to do this to you again, but is that supposed to  be in ~
[02:23] <ladydoor> hiffy: well, opensource isn't the same as free. also, you can't really "run away" with gpl code--it *is* licensed :-)
[02:24] <ladydoor> ClayG: unless a program tells you otherwise, it probably has a config file called .programnamerc in your home dir (so, in short, yes)
[02:24] <ladydoor> ClayG: with msmtp you just need to creat it.
[02:24] <hiffy> ladydoor: I know the difference between free and libre.
[02:24] <ClayG> awsome ill peep the man and if caught up google for a sample rc
[02:24] <ClayG> thanks a bunch
[02:25] <ladydoor> hiffy: sweet.
[02:25] <Celeste> hi
[02:25] <ladydoor> ClayG: np
[02:25] <hiffy> ladydoor: but in the case of web apps, is that these people take the code, change it, provide services with it, then go bankrupt with all your data in their servers and without contributing any packages back :B
[02:25] <Celeste> can I teach xmms to play *.wma files?
[02:25] <hiffy> **patches
[02:25] <ladydoor> haha
[02:25] <hiffy> ladydoor: but maybe im paranoid?
[02:26] <hiffy> ladydoor: not wanting to sound like a cunt or anything.
[02:26] <ladydoor> hiffy: PLEASE do not use that word. some of us (i.e., those of us in the channel who happen to be *women*) find it offensive
[02:27] <hiffy> ladydoor: pardon my french.
[02:27] <ladydoor> hiffy: ok.
[02:27] <hiffy> ladydoor: insert sexist joke about the quantity of girls in a linux channel anyways here.
[02:28] <hiffy> That said I'm going to shut up now.
[02:28] <crimsun> isn't there a ubuntu-women, too?
[02:28] <bimberi> good idea
[02:28] <o0vapermonkey0o> where on the web do i post a bulliten so some one can look at my problem with my nvidia card
[02:29] <EvanIsaac> my internet isn't working after installing dapper drake
[02:29] <jimmyneturon> hey guys need some help. if im using the terminal and typing, the help topics windows pops up. how can i resolve this?
[02:29] <josesito> hi all! Does someone know if a SD-Card reader MP3 player named Q-CUBE II is compatible with linux??
[02:29] <ladydoor> hiffy: true...but then again, part of the problem is that it's considered semi-OK to make fun of women in these male-dominated channels, and so it's hard(er) for a woman to seek support here. i just make it because i'm rude and abrasive, and so i can just correct somebody who says something like that.
[02:30] <EvanIsaac> somebody help me unclog my internet tubes!
[02:30] <Code-E> CAN SOMEONE HELP ME INSTALL MY PRINER PLEASE
[02:30] <ladydoor> !SHOUT
[02:30] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:30] <jpiccolo_> quake4 dont look good on my system, it wont use the right rez, anyone know how to fix it?
[02:30] <totall_6_7> ouch who slapped me
[02:31] <Max_-> What about having a good pdf printer under Ubuntu?
[02:31] <josesito> Does someone know if a SD-Card reader MP3 player named Q-CUBE II is compatible with linux?? please?
[02:31] <EvanIsaac> I just installed Dapper Drake and my internet isn't working, i'm using the same settings i used on Breezy Badger
[02:31] <ladydoor> Max_-: openoffice and abiword can both save as PDFs, and then there're packages like LaTeX which make pdfs that actually look good
[02:31] <ladydoor> Max_-: (using pdflatex)
[02:31] <jimmyneturon> anyone?
[02:32] <jimmyneturon> hey guys need some help. if im using the terminal and typing, the help topics windows pops up. how can i resolve this?
[02:32] <Max_-> ladydoor, thanks!
[02:32] <ladydoor> !repeat
[02:32] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:32] <ladydoor> jimmyneturon: what terminal, what desktop environment/window manager?
[02:32] <ladydoor> jimmyneturon: and what "help window"
[02:33] <HellDragon> how can i unmount a partition ?
[02:33] <EvanIsaac> you know, nobody has to wait when you tell them that you can't solve their problem, being unresponsive is just plain rude
[02:33] <ladydoor> HellDragon: sudo umount /path/to/mountpoint
[02:33] <jimmyneturon> ladydoor: gnome, gnome terminal
[02:33] <ladydoor> !patience
[02:33] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:33] <HellDragon> jd@modemcable251:~$ sudo umount /media/sda1    umount: /media/sda1: priphrique occup
[02:33] <ladydoor> jimmyneturon: are you pressing F1 by any chance?
[02:33] <WhiteDeth> Can someone please take a look at this for me? - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25028/
[02:33] <HellDragon> (device already in use in english)
[02:33] <WhiteDeth> I just installed Edgy, giving me errors already.
[02:34] <jimmyneturon> ladydoor: the help window that popup with "about ubuntu" links
[02:34] <jimmyneturon> ladydoor: labled "help topics"
[02:34] <ladydoor> HellDragon: got that. are you running any programs from /media/sda1? was it mounted at boot? are you currently cd'd into a dir in it?
[02:34] <HellDragon> ladydoor: no
[02:34] <Code-E> omg
[02:34] <Code-E> stop ignorizing me peoplz
[02:34] <HellDragon> or yes
[02:34] <HellDragon> it works now thanks
[02:34] <EvanIsaac> i'm aware of that, there's nobody that doesn't respect you guys helping idiots like me out, it's just nice to hear whether somebody's trying to work on your question so you don't have to wait an hour, like i did yesterday
[02:35] <ladydoor> jimmyneturon: i think gnome-terminal has some kind of weird graphical configuration thing you can use...there may be a setting in there somewhere :-/
[02:35] <ladydoor> !patience > Code-E
[02:35] <EvanIsaac> !patience
[02:35] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:35] <Code-E> Yea patiences :-.
[02:35] <Code-E> :-/
[02:35] <Code-E> ive been patient for the last hour
[02:36] <ladydoor> EvanIsaac: the thing is, it would flood the channel for everybody to be like "sorry, i've got nothing." but, just for the heck of it, sorry. I've got nothing.
[02:36] <o0vapermonkey0o> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1552992#post1552992
[02:36] <HellDragon> yay problems with ntfs journal
[02:36] <HellDragon> need to reboot under windows
[02:37] <jimmyneturon> ladydoor: what do u mean?
[02:37] <Code-E> !nubcake
[02:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nubcake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:37] <EvanIsaac> hey Dr. willis, can you help me with my networking proble m?
[02:38] <josesito> Does someone know if a SD-Card reader MP3 player named Q-CUBE II is compatible with linux?? please?
[02:38] <kitten> So xchat usually opens links in Firefox.  The other day, it suddenly started opening in just about every browser I have EXCEPT Firefox.  Currently it spawns a new Mozilla window.  Any thoughts on how to get it back to Firefox?
[02:38] <ladydoor> jimmyneturon: doesn't gnome-terminal have some kind of weird graphical menu or something where you can set "profile settings" or somesuch confusion?
[02:38] <Pierre> Code-E, and you use this driver?
[02:38] <kitten> I checked the urlhandler in both xchat and the dotfile...
[02:38] <Code-E> Pierre: um
[02:38] <Code-E> what
[02:38] <EvanIsaac> what just happened
[02:38] <bimberi> !netsplit
[02:38] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[02:38] <Pierre> Code-E, "but LP says to use ..."
[02:38] <Dr_willis> EvanIsaac,  its all your fault. :P
[02:38] <jimmyneturon> ladydoor: yes. profiles. what do i do there?
[02:38] <kitten> So xchat usually opens links in Firefox.  The other day, it suddenly started opening in just about every browser I have EXCEPT Firefox.  Currently it spawns a new Mozilla window.  Any thoughts on how to get it back to Firefox?
[02:39] <tannerld> what with all these people joiing?
[02:39] <Code-E> Pierre: they said to use a laser jet driver but they dont have the driver and this is not a lazerjet its an all in one
[02:39] <EvanIsaac> I'm having trouble connecting to the internet after installing Dapper Drake. The same settings worked fine on Breezy Badger. Help!
[02:39] <Dr_willis> tannerld,  netsplit
[02:39] <o0vapermonkey0o> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1552992#post1552992
[02:40] <Pierre> Code-E, the "LaserJet" driver is a generic driver for many printer. If you are looking for a driver to work with all features (like fax or scans), good luck :)
[02:40] <ladydoor> jimmyneturon: i don't know--i'm honestly just guessing. i find it easier to use neither gnome nor gnome-terminal, so i'm kind of grasping at straws as i don't really know what's causing it.
[02:40] <josesito> Does someone know if a SD-Card reader MP3 player named Q-CUBE II is compatible with linux?? please?
[02:40] <Code-E> Pierre: no I just want it to print
[02:40] <jimmyneturon> ladydoor: do u know if ubuntu supports microsoft wifi keyboards?
[02:40] <HELLOJOE> GAH HOW DO I WROTE IMG FILE TO FLOPPY>
[02:40] <Pierre> Code-E, so try the laserjet one
[02:41] <ReinH> What's the apt-get command to check if a package is installed?
[02:41] <green_earz> EvanIsaac:  can you ping your router ?
[02:41] <Luke> is there a way to select what java version to use?
[02:41] <ReinH> or check it's version?
[02:41] <Code-E> they dont have the driver though Pierre
[02:41] <EvanIsaac> ping my router? how?
[02:41] <Dr_willis> josesito,  you  should be able to put the card in a usb reader and linux should see it.. unless its very weird,
[02:41] <ladydoor> jimmyneturon: i'm sorry, i don't. that sounds like a job for my old friend Google :-)
[02:41] <EvanIsaac> <first time using linux
[02:41] <bimberi> Luke: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[02:41] <Pierre> Code-E, you have it. LaserJet is available in ubuntu by default (and all linux)
[02:41] <kitten> ReinH : You can use dpkg -l grep <packagename>
[02:41] <ClayG> ladydoor, will trying to getmail i get the error "Delivery error (maildir delivery 10415 error (127, maildir delivery process failed (not a Maildir (/home/clay/Mail/))))
[02:41] <ClayG> "
[02:41] <josesito> Dr_willis, it's actually an mp3 player
[02:41] <EvanIsaac> well technically started yesterday, but was in this chat room the whole time
[02:41] <ReinH> kitten: thanks :)
[02:41] <josesito> but it plays music from a sd card
[02:41] <kitten> Aw c'mon guys, someone must know this.
[02:41] <jimmyneturon> ladydoor: well thanks for ur help. one more question, do u have aim?
[02:41] <ClayG> i have both ~/mail and ~/Mail and have tried both
[02:42] <HELLOJOE> I got the super grub disk, unziped it, and now I have an img file that I have no clue how to write.
[02:42] <Code-E> ok Pierre lol
[02:42] <EvanIsaac> my main goal is to get my netgear W111T wireless network adapter to work, but i can't do that if ican't even connect to ahardwired connection :\
[02:42] <ladydoor> ClayG: ummm, does /home/clay/Mail exist?
[02:42] <jrib> kitten: isn't there some xchat setting or is it using a mysterious "default" that you can't set?
[02:42] <ladydoor> jimmyneturon: np. and no, i don't...sorry
[02:43] <HELLOJOE> :<\
[02:43] <Dr_willis> josesito,  some days ya just gotta plug the sucker in and try. :P thers so many mp3 players out.. it 'should' appear as a hard drive.
[02:43] <kitten> jnb: Well yeah, there's a setting, but it's nothing obvious -- you have to know the command to give to 'urlhandler' and anyway I didn't *change* anything.  In the middle of the day it just started doing this.
[02:43] <EvanIsaac> green_earz: how do i ping my router?
[02:43] <indref> Buy it a drink first.
[02:43] <josesito> Dr_willis, well, i hope it works...but i didn't want to waste the 12 bucks it costs ;)
[02:43] <kitten> Whoops, got it.
[02:43] <green_earz> EvanIsaac: sudo route   and what is your default gateway, here its " default  192.168.0.1 "   so i would ping  192.168.0.1   from a console
[02:44] <indref> Anyone want to help a linux noob :D
[02:44] <indref> I have to change a file in the azureus program dir but I can't find it.
[02:44] <Luke> bimberi: thanks mate
[02:44] <o0vapermonkey0o> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1552992#post1552992
[02:45] <o0vapermonkey0o> pls hlp
[02:45] <bimberi> Luke: np :)
[02:45] <kitten> green_earz : Or he could type 'sudo dhclient eth0' and see what hands him an IP address.
[02:45] <HELLOJOE> I got the super grub disk, unziped it, and now I have an img file that I have no clue how to write.
[02:45] <EvanIsaac> it says 56 bytes of data
[02:46] <indref> Anyone want to help me navigate my directories?
[02:46] <kitten> EvanIsaac : Do you know what your interface is?
[02:46] <green_earz> kitten: your way is a better way
[02:46] <EvanIsaac> interface>
[02:46] <EvanIsaac> ?
[02:46] <EvanIsaac> whichever one comes installed
[02:46] <EvanIsaac> i just installed it
[02:46] <eXcentra> indref, what're you looking for?
[02:47] <kitten> EvanIsaac : Type 'ifconfig'.
[02:47] <indref> eXcentra, I need to tweak my azureus
[02:47] <kitten> And see what interfaces you have.  You're looking for eth0 or eth1 or something, assuming you're using a cable and not wireless.
[02:47] <Code-E> How do you update a driver?
[02:47] <indref> eXcentra, http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Close_the_sliding_alert_box
[02:47] <ClayG> ladydoor, sorry for the delay both Mail and mail exist
[02:47] <ladydoor> indref: .azureus is a dot-file, which means that it's hidden by default (because you don't want to look at config files unless you're the sort of person who plays with config files (i.e., me)). so you would do ls -a to see everything in your home dir, and it should be called either .azureus and .Azureus
[02:47] <EvanIsaac>  when i type ifconfig it doesn't do anything
[02:48] <ladydoor> ClayG: are they empty
[02:48] <kitten> Er.
[02:48] <kitten> In the terminal?
[02:48] <EvanIsaac>  yeah
[02:48] <indref> ladydoor, Actually, that is a very good point..
[02:48] <ladydoor> ?
[02:48] <kitten> ...that's impossible.
[02:48] <ClayG> ladydoor, yes ma'am
[02:48] <EvanIsaac> ok
[02:48] <kitten> Unless you really don't have interfaces installed. :)
[02:48] <eXcentra> indref, where did you install azureus?
[02:48] <EvanIsaac> i reopened terminal and stuff came up
[02:48] <ladydoor> indref: and the way you Change Dirs is with the command cd (cd dirname)
[02:48] <kitten> Okay.  What's there?
[02:49] <EvanIsaac> too much stuff to type all at once
[02:49] <ClayG> Configuration error: not a maildir (path)
[02:49] <ClayG> The specified maildir path path does not appear to be a valid maildir. Check to ensure that it is a valid maildir, and that getmail has permission to write to it.
[02:49] <kitten> Not all of it.
[02:49] <green_earz> EvanIsaac: in your browers address bar paste http://66.102.9.147  and resolve it. the ip address is google.com.  reason for this is to see if you have dns ip addresses
[02:49] <EvanIsaac> Link encap:ethernet
[02:49] <kitten> Just the stuff on the very left.  eth1, lo, stuff like that.
[02:49] <indref> ladydoor, I'm trying to use the gui.
[02:49] <ladydoor> ClayG: ummmm...ok, that's really weird. you might have to ask the channel again, since i need to leave. but check the permissions on the folder and make sure it's got write-permission...bye
[02:49] <EvanIsaac> inet addr: 192.168.1.2
[02:49] <indref> eXcentra, I have no idea.
[02:49] <ClayG> i wonder if is sudo'ed something and it's still around
[02:49] <Code-E> How do you update drivers
[02:49] <kitten> Ah, so you have an address, okay.
[02:49] <ladydoor> indref: oh. then i don't know how. i've got to go. bye
[02:49] <ClayG> take care ladydoor
[02:49] <indref> Code-E, Use apt get or Synaptic
[02:50] <Isaiah_the_Marty> can someone help me with some networking problems
[02:50] <ladydoor> ClayG: you too
[02:50] <eXcentra> indref, lol, okay then.. how did you install it? automatix?
[02:50] <kitten> You can't ping from that?    ping google.com
[02:50] <Isaiah_the_Marty> i cant set the default device to static ip
[02:50] <ladydoor> Code-E: stop it.
[02:50] <indref> eXcentra, Synaptic
[02:50] <Isaiah_the_Marty> i'm trying to ssh from my laptop into my desktop to back up some files
[02:50] <EvanIsaac> unknown host google.com
[02:50] <eXcentra> indref, oh, wow. iirc, it was never in synaptic. anywho, it should be under /usr/share/azureus
[02:50] <indref> Wow, can't ping google but he can connect to IRC
[02:50] <kitten> What router is this plugged into?
[02:50] <Code-E> indref: where in synaptic
[02:50] <EvanIsaac> a netgear wireless router
[02:51] <kitten> indref : I assume he's using a different computer. :P
[02:51] <kitten> EvanIsaac : Are you using wireless or a cable?
[02:51] <pollypocket> oh this is so annoying and frustrating
[02:51] <indref> kitten, Well, maybe :P
[02:51] <Code-E> netgear router?
[02:51] <Code-E> on irc?
[02:51] <Code-E> lol fail
[02:51] <EvanIsaac> i'm using cable, my main goal is to get my W111T wireless USB adapter working, but i have to get this done first
[02:51] <indref> Code-E, Use the search function
[02:51] <Code-E> DCC SEND "STRING" 0 0 0
[02:51] <pollypocket> I need helpto figure out what is going wrong with this dvd-player
[02:52] <indref> eXcentra, I don't see the file I need in there.
[02:52] <kitten> EvanIsaac : Which interface said it was 192.168.whatever?
[02:52] <EvanIsaac> Code E, why would I be asking how to get my internet to work if i were speaking on the same computer?
[02:52] <bimberi> well at least that means a k-line for him/her
[02:52] <eXcentra> indref, swt.jar?
[02:52] <EvanIsaac> inet addr:
[02:52] <EvanIsaac> is that an interface?
[02:52] <kitten> No.
[02:52] <kitten> On the left side.
[02:52] <indref> eXcentra, o use, rename the downloaded Azureus2xxx-Bxx.jar file to Azureus2.jar to replace your old jar in the Azureus program dir:  ChangeTheAzureusTwoJarFile
[02:52] <kitten> There should be something that begins with "eth"
[02:52] <EvanIsaac> eth0
[02:52] <kitten> Try this.
[02:53] <kitten> sudo dhclient eth0
[02:53] <EvanIsaac> ok
[02:53] <EvanIsaac> a bunch of stuff popped up
[02:53] <kitten> Good.  Now ping google again.
[02:53] <eXcentra> indref, eh.. trying using search to find the file.
[02:54] <EvanIsaac> now it's saying 64b from 192.168.1.1
[02:54] <EvanIsaac> over and over
[02:54] <kitten> haha, wtf.
[02:54] <indref> eXcentra, Not found.
[02:54] <EvanIsaac> i accidently typed
[02:54] <EvanIsaac> ping google
[02:54] <kitten> Oh.
[02:54] <kitten> Heh.
[02:54] <EvanIsaac> not ping google.com
[02:54] <green_earz> EvanIsaac: from a console  type :   lynx http://66.102.9.147
[02:54] <EvanIsaac> how do i make it stop
[02:54] <indref> eXcentra, How do you search for hidden files.
[02:54] <kitten> ctrl-c
[02:54] <kitten> Oh for crying out loud.
[02:55] <EvanIsaac> where do i find a console?
[02:55] <simtower> hello... gutenprint is too slow on my computer... is there a way to use gimpprint instead
[02:55] <kitten> You're in a console, EvanIsaac.
[02:55] <kitten> Where you've been typing this stuff.
[02:55] <EvanIsaac> i typed ping google.com
[02:55] <indref> Terminal = console
[02:55] <EvanIsaac> it says
[02:56] <green_earz> EvanIsaac: ping 66.102.9.147
[02:56] <EvanIsaac> bash:lynx:command not found
[02:56] <kitten> Forget lynx.,
[02:56] <simtower> why.
[02:56] <gnomefreak> EvanIsaac: did you install lynx first?
[02:56] <EvanIsaac> it says
[02:56] <o0vapermonkey0o> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1552992#post1552992
[02:56] <kitten> gnomefreak : How can he do that if he doesn't have internet?
[02:56] <EvanIsaac> 64 bytes from 66.102.9.147
[02:56] <EvanIsaac> over and over
[02:56] <indref> Woot!
[02:56] <kitten> EvanIsaac : Okay, then you've got a DNS problem.
[02:57] <indref> EvanIsaac, That's a good thing.
[02:57] <kitten> Unless it works when you try google.com.
[02:57] <ReinH> By the way, for anyone who was here yesterday, I've installed Ubuntu with nary a hitch and partitioned my /home folder as well. :D
[02:57] <kitten> Try ping google.com
[02:57] <Shadow_mil> Has anyone else have the problem where it hangs the system when the "Checking all file system" happens on boot?
[02:57] <gnomefreak> kitten: he cant unless he downloads it from pc he has net than copies it to usb stick or cd and than installs it on ubuntu
[02:57] <kitten> gnomefreak : Well, baby steps, yo.
[02:57] <briguyd> when importing music in banshee, does it automagically scan subdirectories of the folder you specified?
[02:57] <EvanIsaac> not it's saying 63 bytes from 192.168.1.1
[02:58] <EvanIsaac> when i ping google
[02:58] <kitten> EvanIsaac : Then you've got internet.
[02:58] <kitten> Open a browser.
[02:58] <o0vapermonkey0o> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1553080#post1553080
[02:58] <kitten> Sounds like you just needed to run the dhcp client again (that's what dhclient eth0 did).
[02:58] <Shadow_mil> Has anyone else have the problem where it hangs the system when the "Checking all file system" happens on boot?
[02:58] <EvanIsaac> well
[02:58] <EvanIsaac> i opened ff
[02:58] <EvanIsaac> and it brought me to the netgear smartwizard
[02:59] <kitten> Forget that, go to a website.
[02:59] <powerbook> Eek - I was playing around the panels in gnome, and now the battery applet icon disapeared, is there a way to reset the panels to default?
[02:59] <EvanIsaac> could that help me get my wireless usb adapter to work without getting this thing called ndiswrapper?
[02:59] <kitten> EvanIsaac : hahaha.
[02:59] <kitten> Oh man.
[02:59] <SmrtJustin> My audacity keeps complaining that something is using my /dev/dsp (so does xmms using the OSS driver), how can I find out what is and kill it?
[02:59] <kitten> That is going to suck.  A lot.
[03:00] <kitten> What the hell...?
[03:00] <EvanIsaac> could you guys walk me through that?
[03:00] <briguyd> EvanIsaac, ndiswrapper is easier than you think
[03:00] <kitten> EvanIsaac : I dunno.  ndiswrapper is tricky but we can try.
[03:00] <jessejoe> ok, anyone wanna help me figure out why ssh will not write to /etc/auth.log anymore?
[03:00] <kitten> What it does is wrap Windows drivers so Linux can use them.
[03:01] <kitten> For when there's no native driver.
[03:01] <kitten> It's not *that* hard.
[03:01] <kitten> But you need to find the right Windows drivers for your USB thing first.
[03:01] <powerbook> would following these steps http://www.celsius1414.com/node/878 reset my gnome panels?
[03:01] <kitten> powerbook : Yes.
[03:02] <indref> powerbook, You could just add the panel back again.
[03:02] <kitten> You'd be removing your settings.
[03:02] <kitten> And it would default.
[03:02] <EvanIsaac> my router iit's making me go through a netgear settings thing before i can open any webpages
[03:02] <kitten> EvanIsaac : No, it isn't.
[03:02] <kitten> Check your homepage settings.
[03:02] <powerbook> kittten: for only the panels, right?
[03:02] <kitten> Edit > Preferences
[03:02] <kitten> powerbook : Yeah, but indref is right.
[03:02] <EvanIsaac> ok it's done
[03:02] <kitten> You can just add it back.
[03:02] <powerbook> indref: my battery icon disappeared, and its because I was playing around
[03:02] <h00t> can anyone help me ... i installed codecs w/ automatix but no matter what i play any player will just turn off ... this i 2 x it happend to me .. anyone know the probelm
[03:02] <indref> powerbook, Then put it back.
[03:02] <powerbook> kitten: i cant put the battery icon back
[03:02] <kitten> Why?
[03:03] <powerbook> it wont let me..
[03:03] <EvanIsaac> ok
[03:03] <indref> Oh muffin.
[03:03] <kitten> Does it give an error or something?
[03:03] <EvanIsaac> my internet works
[03:03] <powerbook> the Power Managment icon
[03:03] <powerbook> Management*
[03:03] <kitten> EvanIsaac : Congrats.
[03:03] <EvanIsaac> how do i get ndiswrapper on here now?
[03:03] <indref> EvanIsaac, Well done.
[03:03] <h00t> anyone
[03:03] <bimberi> kitten: and congrats to you on excellent help!
[03:03] <kitten> EvanIsaac : Like I said, go find the Windows drivers for your USB thing first.
[03:03] <eXcentra> indref, I dunno if you've solved your problem or not but... try /usr/share/java/Azureus2.jar
[03:03] <kitten> bimberi : What's funny is I'm a newb myself.  Mostly.  I came in here looking for help. :P
[03:03] <EvanIsaac> i have them on a cd
[03:04] <EvanIsaac> they're on a cd
[03:04] <kitten> EvanIsaac : Copy them to a folder in your home directory.
[03:04] <indref> eXcentra, I'll try that :)
[03:04] <bimberi> kitten: cool :)
[03:04] <EvanIsaac> give me a sec to look for the cd
[03:04] <jessejoe> anyone wanna hel me figure out mu mu auth.log problem please?!?!
[03:04] <indref> eXcentra, Sweet, there is it!
[03:04] <Shadow_mil> Where are the boot logs saved?
[03:05] <Red-Sox> Okay, so far ubuntu's been running great, I was just wondering...how do I disable the "Touc-To-Click" function on my trackpad (I'm running this on a notebook)
[03:05] <EvanIsaac> got it
[03:05] <oisacx> hi
[03:05] <Red-Sox> s/touc/touch
 are you takeing to me?
[03:05] <Shadow_mil> Anyone
[03:06] <Red-Sox> EvanIsaac, ?
[03:06] <EvanIsaac> hey
[03:06] <flaco> hi all.. I got dapper installed... why the sound card can only one "sound" at the time.. example... I got xmms playing a song.. and the sound of amsn dont sound until the song is over
[03:06] <EvanIsaac> i've got dapper drake on here now
[03:06] <kitten> flaco : Yup, that drove me insane.
[03:06] <Red-Sox> EvanIsaac: Great, have you updated your sources.list?
[03:06] <ungratefuljoint> hi guys, do you know any good online poker games for ubuntu/linux ?
[03:06] <indref> eXcentra, Ok, help.
[03:06] <Shadow_mil> Where are the boot logs saved?
[03:06] <eXcentra> indref, yo.
[03:06] <indref> eXcentra, How do I rename it, it's set as root.
[03:06] <flaco> mmmmm
[03:07] <kitten> It's because they're both trying to access, uh, whatever it is.  esd?
[03:07] <flaco> could be a problem of alsa?
[03:07] <kitten> Alsa, that was it.
[03:07] <Dr_willis> ungratefuljoint,  load up 2nd live and play poker on it. :P
[03:07] <kitten> No, it's not a problem.
[03:07] <eXcentra> indref, well, i would save the original .jar to the Desktop, rename it there
[03:07] <kitten> It's that you don't have a "server" for it installed, though damned if I can remember exactly how I fixed that.
[03:07] <EvanIsaac> ok i'm updating through software updates
[03:07] <malakhi> Shadow_mil: /var/log/syslog
[03:07] <eXcentra> indref, and then in a terminal, do a "sudo cp Desktop/Azureus2.jar /usr/share/java"
[03:07] <ungratefuljoint> Dr_willis, whats that then?! url? or do i just look up 2nd live?
[03:07] <kitten> Sorry. :/
[03:08] <Shadow_mil> malakhi: thank you
[03:08] <malakhi> Shadow_mil: np
[03:08] <indref> eXcentra, What?
[03:08] <herbal> Hey, im trying to run in 1440x900 which is my monitors native reszolution, its all stretched out and doesent fit
[03:09] <indref> eXcentra, Wait, that would work. What is cp?
[03:09] <Dr_willis> ungratefuljoint,  'secondlife' - its a On line MMORPG that seems to have a lot of games.. but its sort of weird. :P  not sure if they do poker... i saw lots of other gambling with it.
[03:09] <eXcentra> indref, cp is to copy the file there.
[03:09] <oisacx> Does anyone knows how to see when the history of a package from unstable to stable? Because I want to know where the developpement of libc6 is for now and when it will become stable...
[03:09] <Dr_willis> ungratefuljoint,  or find some java game sites that may have one.
[03:09] <ungratefuljoint> Dr_willis, i've got the webpage up looks wacked :)
[03:09] <indref> sudo cp File NewDir ?
[03:09] <Dr_willis> ungratefuljoint,  yea - they got a beta linux client
[03:10] <EvanIsaac> my download speed is much slower on here than before i updated
[03:10] <ReinH> How do I restart X server?
[03:10] <Shadow_mil> ReinH: Ctrl + Alt +backspace
[03:11] <Shadow_mil> Has anyone else have the problem where it hangs the system when the "Checking all file system" happens on boot?
[03:11] <mon^rch> hey, when did ubuntu first start as a company?????
[03:11] <herbal> will someone help me, this is my xorg from another distro with 1440x900 working right http://pastebin.ca/184491  this is my xorg in ubuntu with it stetched http://pastebin.ca/184574
[03:11] <mon^rch> anyone??
[03:11] <Xenguy> mon^rch: funded by a multi-millionaire :p
[03:11] <indref> eXcentra, Ok, file moved. Now to see if it made any difference! :D
[03:11] <EvanIsaac> are there different servers from which updates are downloaded from?
[03:12] <Xenguy> EvanIsaac: mirrors, yes
[03:12] <bimberi> mon^rch: it isn't.  Canonical is the company.  I guess it just took over the ubuntu.com domain because that's where most people went looking for it
[03:12] <EvanIsaac> because under the time thing in the setup i clicked on a city in mexico because it didn't have any you could click on in texas
[03:13] <[DaN] > i'm having trouble mounting an ntfs partition at boot time for reading and writing...i followed the tutorial on the ubuntu guide and it doesn't mount it from the start..any help?
[03:13] <EvanIsaac> so that wouldn't cause it to connect me to a mirror in mexico right?
[03:13] <kothz> I'm having a mentally tired moment - is there a best practices collection of packages for getting mail (via fetchmail), delivering them to a local user through the local MTA (postfix/some sort of imapd)?
[03:13] <[DaN] > anyone?
[03:14] <indref> eXcentra, Thanks for the help. No idea if it solved my problem, but you rock all the same. :D
[03:14] <mon^rch> yeah, but when did it first get RELEASED???
[03:14] <Xenguy> [DaN] : I didn't even know it was (reliably) writable
[03:14] <kothz> Dan: are you getting any messages
[03:14] <eXcentra> indref, heh. cool. hope it works out for you.
[03:14] <ReinH> Hey folks, is this the best place to ask a gnome related question? I just set up multiple displays and my GreenT terminal window is currently spanning both displays. I want it to only span one display. How can I do that?
[03:14] <[DaN] > xenguy: according to this site is somewhat http://ubuntuguide.org/
[03:14] <indref> eXcentra, Yeah me too.
[03:15] <indref> eXcentra, It is me or is it crazier than usual in here.
[03:15] <EvanIsaac> good god
[03:15] <EvanIsaac> i've waited 5 minutes for a 22mb file
[03:15] <indref> Leave your god out of this.
[03:15] <eXcentra> indref, it's always like this, i'm sure :p
[03:15] <dredhammer> hello i was just wondering is there any video editing tool to cut asf streams with BEFORE encoding to another format?
[03:15] <EvanIsaac> lol
[03:15] <EvanIsaac> expression
[03:15] <Xenguy> [DaN] : never tried it - I always convert to FAT32 so I won't have to deal with the bleeding edge stuff
[03:15] <[DaN] > kothz: no i just can't get into it...i have to mount it again manually and only readable
[03:15] <bimberi> mon^rch: ah, Warty was released in October 2004
[03:15] <[DaN] > xenguy: ok i was using an ntfs partition as a backup for files...i'll just convert it to fat32
[03:16] <Red-Sox> Grr...This isn't working for me >:-| any other suggestions?  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76585&highlight=touch-to-click
[03:16] <EvanIsaac> !hello
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[03:16] <Xenguy> [DaN] : that's one solution
[03:16] <EvanIsaac> !noodles
[03:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about noodles - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:16] <LjL> !msg the bot
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[03:16] <[DaN] > xenguy: yeah, pretty much the easiest one :)
[03:17] <herbal> will someone help me, this is my xorg from another distro with 1440x900 working right http://pastebin.ca/184491  this is my xorg in ubuntu with it stetched  http://pastebin.ca/184574
[03:17] <Xenguy> [DaN] : just avoid the flames about what a crappy filesystem FAT32 is ;-)
[03:17] <green_earz> EvanIsaac: you can use the commad sudo apt-setup to pick a ubuntu mirror server,  pick http
[03:17] <LjL> well, it is. but it's supported by just about anything...
[03:17] <kothz> Lowest common denominators are never pretty :)
[03:17] <Xenguy> [DaN] : that's all bullocks anyway - whatever works :-)
[03:18] <[DaN] > xenguy: yeah i agree, right now i just need it for this recovery partition that i need to copy :)
[03:18] <kothz> Find a way to make your Windows installation talk ext3 :)
[03:18] <LjL> kothz: not too hard, at least for reading...
[03:19] <Xenguy> [DaN] : get to work :P
[03:19] <[DaN] > xenguy: i will! thanks for the help
[03:19] <Xenguy> [DaN] : yw
[03:21] <TrevorT> does anyone's dapper install hang when switching from vc 7 (X11) to a console vc and then back to 7 using xorg / fglrx?
[03:21] <kothz> anyone have fetchmail -> mta -> imapd setup on dapper?
[03:22] <Skarr> I did ndiswrapper and it says I dont have hte hardware.
[03:23] <TrevorT> ndiswrapper is a hack
[03:24] <brasko> hi, I'm having a problem taking screenshots
[03:24] <brasko> if I use gimp, xwd, or ubuntu's menu, I always get back a blank screen shot
[03:24] <brasko> any idea why the image I get is always blank? or how I fix it?
[03:24] <brasko> wow, I don't ever remember this channel being so quiet. Is this some sort of april fools joke?
[03:25] <THX-1138> TrevorT - Yes, ati onboard video card. all the time./ - not with the second nVidua card.  - try this before switching terminals (#!/binbash script it.??)  in terminal   sudo /init.d/gdm stop   then startx  to get desk
[03:25] <ReinH> Folks, let me ask again please, is there a way I can have GreenT only span one of my dual monitors? Currently it spans across both when it drops down
[03:25] <TrevorT> ugh
[03:25] <TrevorT> maybe I'll just stick to using x as much as possible
[03:25] <THX-1138> yes, -  ugh. - got a laptop?
[03:26] <TrevorT> yeah, t30, radeon fb works fine.
[03:26] <ReinH> Do you guys have any opinion about using GreenT vs Kuake? Or does no one use that kind of terminal emulatur really?
[03:26] <THX-1138> Nice!
[03:26] <|thunder> yay, i just switched from amd64 to the 32 bit dapper.  now I have to relearn how to install the goodiez , the easy way.  I had a bunch of pre built packages for 64.
[03:26] <TrevorT> heh, thunder why?
[03:26] <TrevorT> the switch*
[03:26] <h00t> can someone tell me what is the difference in synaptic among "something", something(universe) & something (multiverse)
[03:26] <TrevorT> I'm about to throw 64 bit on here
[03:26] <THX-1138> I want a laptop. just can't bring myself to use an ati card.
[03:27] <TrevorT> h00t version?
[03:27] <h00t> latest 6.06.1 or something
[03:27] <TrevorT> THX-1138: its a shame, ati hardware is all very nice until you go to setup it up to do anything with it
[03:27] <|thunder> TrevorT; installing anything is a pain. and you have to either build things yourself or use old ass pre built packages that are way out of date.  so i just switched to 6.06.1 32bit
[03:27] <Xenguy> ReinH: gnome-terminal works great
[03:27] <Xenguy> ReinH: or you meant something different?
[03:27] <TrevorT> I can't complain about the radeon fb though
[03:27] <bimberi> h00t: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[03:28] <brasko> no one has ever had the problem of getting empty(blank) screenshots?
[03:28] <gnomefreak> h00t: universe repo has extra packages multiverse repo has non-free packages
[03:28] <ReinH> Xenguy: Can gnome-terminal blind up and down like, for instance, consoles in video games like Quake, UT2004 (which is where Kuake and I assume GreenT got the idea)
[03:28] <TrevorT> |thunder: you might try gentoo for 64 bit
[03:28] <TrevorT> but yeah I mean
[03:28] <gnomefreak> ReinH: no
[03:28] <TrevorT> you wanna use as few uni/multi as possible
[03:28] <Xenguy> ReinH: wow, are you gaming or coding? :-)
[03:28] <TrevorT> also as few backports as possible is the idea
[03:28] <TrevorT> they're not covered by security patches :S
[03:29] <THX-1138> TrevorT - A year ago i spent nearly a pile oif cash on an all-in-wonder card. - with all the datbase/.NET stuff windows just crawled along.
[03:29] <h00t> got it thanx
[03:29] <ReinH> Xenguy: lol, I like being able to hide and restore a persistant terminal window with a quick keystroke
[03:29] <|thunder> TrevorT; and i want to update to latest compiz+pluginz and cvs ndiswrapper to support my wifi at full speed. is capped at 1Mib currently.
[03:29] <TrevorT> but shit in the multi/uni is generally unspported by the community is my understanding
[03:29] <ReinH> I find it immensely useful
[03:29] <|thunder> TrevorT; I dont have 2 days to devote to compiling my OS
[03:29] <gnomefreak> ReinH: Xenguy kuake sits on top of your screen and folds up :)
[03:29] <gnomefreak> oops
[03:29] <gnomefreak> Xenguy: that was for you
[03:29] <Xenguy> ReinH: gnome defaults: Alt-F9 minimizes; foo maximizes :-)
[03:29] <EvanIsaac> so how long will it take me to install the adapter drivers using ndiswrapper?
[03:29] <gnomefreak> TrevorT: multiverse is
[03:29] <TrevorT> |thunder: ever tried OpenSuse?
[03:30] <ReinH> gnomefreak: right, so does GreenT. My issue is that GreenT is currently spanning both of my monitors and I don't know how I would go about changing that
[03:30] <Xenguy> ReinH: Alt-12 does a 'roll-up' (if configured manually :-)
[03:30] <ReinH> Xenguy: on gnome-terminal?
[03:30] <mattSchultz> I'm having trouble with the nvidia drivers...can anyone help me here?
[03:30] <gnomefreak> Xenguy: kuake does it with a click
[03:30] <ReinH> I'm open to using gnome-terminal instead.
[03:30] <gnomefreak> ReinH: im not sure on dual head
[03:30] <Xenguy> ReinH: more of a window-manager thing (I'm talking about Gnome default environment)
[03:31] <ReinH> GreenT uses a configurable hotkey
[03:31] <|thunder> TrevorT; i dont mind running 32bit. My amd64 still is faster at 32bit code than a 32bit processor at same speed.  i dont have a huge sql DB or anything, so i'll just stick with dapper32. thanks though.  and no, all Ive ever tried are redHat9 and dapper.
[03:31] <Xenguy> gnomefreak: and it's packaged for Ubuntu - rock on :-)
[03:31] <ReinH> Xenguy: How do I configure gnome-terminal to "roll up"?
[03:32] <TrevorT> I was thinking about buying a copy of sled myself to see if I could get those guys to fix some ati drivers since they're suse and all
[03:32] <TrevorT> and buying the copy gets you tech support
[03:32] <TrevorT> thing is, I don't have time to work on linux kernel / kernel drivers anymore ;)
[03:32] <mattSchultz> I need some help with nvidia drivers...does anyone have experience in installing them?
[03:32] <TrevorT> ReinH: window shade
[03:32] <THX-1138> Rein - toolbar preferences .. windows
[03:32] <TrevorT> yeah opensuse last time I checked was pretty sexy
[03:32] <Xenguy> ReinH: it's not a gnome-terminal configuration - it is a GNOME thing - I don't remember the exact GUI, but I imagine it would be under 'window managing' or some such
[03:33] <ReinH> Ah
[03:33] <ReinH> Ah, I see the roll-up. It's not exactly what I'm looking for, but thank you :)
[03:34] <TrevorT> Xenguy: it's a ripoff of classic macos window shade isn't it (which is a ripoff of something else I'm sure) but the thought is there anyway..
[03:34] <THX-1138> TrevorT - Seen the profiles section for xterm - inal? - look under settings for some nice effects in terminal. feeling adventurous? type sudo gconf-editor
[03:34] <ReinH> I like that GreenT blinds up completely off the screen when not in use, and it doesn't have to have focus to blind back down.
[03:34] <TrevorT> THX-1138: active transparencies yet? :)
[03:34] <ReinH> Oh well, I'll tweak it
[03:34] <h00t> ok ... can someone explain this to me ... i'm trying to remove totem ...but it says that i need to remove "ubuntu-desktop" WTF
[03:34] <rus1> Don't.
[03:35] <THX-1138> TrevorT - Yes, Translucency. - (still using xcompmgr here for effects "xdesktopwaves" compiz is just too busy for me.)
[03:35] <bimberi> h00t: you can remove ubuntu-desktop, it's a metapackage -  but it's a good idea to have it in place for upgrades
[03:35] <TrevorT> ooooh
[03:36] <TrevorT> sounds cool
[03:36] <EvanIsaac> how would i install python on ubuntu?
[03:36] <bimberi> EvanIsaac: it comes by default
[03:36] <ReinH> I'm using the translucency for gnome-terminal. It's nice :)
[03:36] <h00t> bimberi, what is a metapackage ...
[03:36] <TrevorT> sudo apt-cache search python
[03:36] <Xenguy> TrevorT: I don't know where it comes from - it's free, and it works :-)
[03:36] <bimberi> EvanIsaac: type 'python' in a terminal
[03:36] <EvanIsaac> ok
[03:36] <Dr_willis> Python should be installed by default
[03:36] <TrevorT> er you don't need sudo for apt-cache don't think
[03:36] <EvanIsaac> hmm
[03:36] <Dr_willis> you dont. :P
[03:37] <EvanIsaac> then how come in synaptic my only option is to install
[03:37] <bimberi> h00t: a package that only has dependencies on other packages
[03:37] <EvanIsaac> python
[03:37] <TrevorT> THX-1138: you need sudo for apt-get install
[03:37] <TrevorT> err sorry
[03:37] <TrevorT> <-- just woke up from a nap, kinda confused
[03:37] <h00t> bimberi, almost everything sufficiently complicated has dependencies ... but what does metapackage do
[03:37] <EvanIsaac> because i want to update python from 2.4.3 to 2.5 final
[03:38] <bretzel> Hi  - Is any1 knows about gfxboot and ubuntu ( gfxboot-ubuntu theme  ) ???
[03:38] <h00t> bimberi, and why totem only not mplayer or beep
[03:38] <jbu> does anyone know the command for telling which linux distribution you have?
[03:38] <bimberi> h00t: only has dependencies, no software
[03:38] <THX-1138> !apt > TrevorT
[03:38] <TrevorT> bretzel: my hands are all dried out and peely cos I'm in the desert
[03:39] <THX-1138> !sudo > TrevorT
[03:39] <bretzel> ?
[03:39] <Seq> ReinH: how are you using the translucency?
[03:39] <TrevorT> oh cool
[03:39] <bimberi> h00t: i don't know why - i guess because it's the default player for Gnome
[03:39] <TrevorT> thx eggdrop?
[03:39] <EvanIsaac> is python 2.5final out for linux?
[03:40] <h00t> bimberi, sorry but i don't get it ... why would something that doesn't do anything have dependencies
[03:40] <bimberi> EvanIsaac: not for dapper (the current stable ubuntu release)
[03:40] <EvanIsaac> ok, thanks
[03:40] <EvanIsaac> i guess i'll start learning it then :)
[03:40] <bimberi> h00t: so that you can install lots of stuff with 1 command :)
[03:40] <EvanIsaac> thank you all so much
[03:41] <EvanIsaac> !windows
[03:41] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[03:41] <ReinH> Seq: Just so my wallpaper shows underneath the text, and I've configured the color profile to make the text easy to read (light text on a dark wallpaper)
[03:41] <jbu> does anyone know the command for telling which linux distribution you have
[03:41] <Dr_willis> jbu,  theres normally a file in /etc/ that has that info.. but i cant rember the name. :P
[03:41] <Seq> ReinH: oh, nevermind then :p
[03:41] <jbu> Dr_willis: hmm
[03:42] <Seq> ReinH: i thought you were talking about actual transparancy
[03:42] <webhed> Does anyone know how to make icons in a panel automatically enlarge when you mouse over them like in OSX? I thought there was some setting somewhere to do that but don't know where it is now.
[03:42] <ReinH> lol, no, I wouldn't know about that. I can't see how that would be useful, to be honest.
[03:42] <bimberi> jbu: /etc/issue  ??
[03:42] <Dr_willis> cat /etc/issue
[03:42] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:42] <bimberi> :)
[03:42] <yarddog> jbu,  cat /etc/lsb-release
[03:42] <Dr_willis> but is that a LSB standard?
[03:43] <jbu> yarddog: thanks
[03:43] <h00t> bimberi, ok, i think i get it  ... it's like a constructor in java or something ... but then ... why would its part (totem) try to remove the parent package ...
[03:43] <jbu> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu -- does anyone know if this is the 64 bit version?
[03:43] <Seq> ReinH: it would tend to get distracting, especially for the active window. But I heard it was possible with gnome-terminal in gnome 2.16, and though you may be using that.
[03:43] <jbu> DISTRIB_RELEASE=6.06
[03:43] <jbu> DISTRIB_CODENAME=dapper
[03:43] <jbu> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 6.06 LTS"
[03:43] <Dr_willis> jbu,  try uname -a
[03:44] <ryanakca> jbu: use pastebin next time... what you looking for, the codename or the kernel or what?
[03:44] <webhed> Also I want the little handle deals at the end of the panel to not be there. I am not using expand for the bottom panel so its centered in the screen like the Mac Dock, except it has these ugly handles on the ends.
[03:44] <ReinH> Seq: I've just installed Ubuntu, so I haven't had a chance to check such things out yet. Sounds interesting in theory
[03:44] <neighborlee> hi,,is there a known issue using manually edit partition  table , in knot 3 ? ( atm its just sitting here with spinning cursors,been like that for minute or longer )
[03:44] <bimberi> h00t: because totem is a dependency of ubuntu-desktop.  apt doesn't discriminate.  If you're removing a depencency it will want to remove all dependant packages
[03:44] <jbu> i just need to know if my version is the 64bit version
[03:44] <jbu> ryanakca
[03:44] <ryanakca> jbu: uname -r
[03:45] <Dr_willis> jbu,  use uname and see if the kernel says so. :P
[03:45] <Harksaw> Is there an official list of known bugs that I can check to see if anyone's working on? (my SigmaTel onboard sound card has crackly sound, I'm pretty sure it's a bug)
[03:45] <jbu> thanks
[03:45] <webhed> Does anyone know how to make icons in a panel automatically enlarge when you mouse over them like in OSX? I thought there was some setting somewhere to do that but don't know where it is now.
[03:45] <ryanakca> Dr_willis: uname gives: "Linux" :S
[03:45] <jbu> 2.6.15-23-386  means its not the 64 bit OS right?
[03:45] <bimberi> !bugs
[03:45] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[03:45] <ryanakca> jbu:  you'll see something from uname -r like: 2.6.17-9-generic
[03:45] <bl4cktone> hey guys where do applications normally install?
[03:46] <Dr_willis> jbu,  try uname -a         I said 5 min ago. :P
[03:46] <ryanakca> jbu: no, that's for pentium
[03:46] <Dr_willis> bl4cktone,  depends on the ap. :P
[03:46] <bl4cktone> what's an ap?
[03:46] <bimberi> bl4cktone: files get put in lots of places
[03:46] <quux> the standard is c:\program files
[03:46] <jbu> Dr_willis: thanks, it prints out Linux jbu-cpu 2.6.15-23-386 #1 PREEMPT Tue May 23 13:49:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Lin ux
[03:46] <yarddog> ryanakca, that is not the stock kernel for dapper
[03:46] <quux> but not all apps follow this standard
[03:46] <ryanakca> jbu: uname -a will tell you...
[03:46] <jbu> ryanakca: yes
[03:46] <Dr_willis> webhed,  i recall some feedback/launch feedback thing like that.. but aint noticed it in ages..  I always disable that silly stuff anyway
[03:46] <ryanakca> jbu:  that's for pentium
[03:46] <bl4cktone> it was Klibido
[03:47] <jbu> ok thanks all
[03:47] <quux> gack, sorry. wrong channel, short attention span!
[03:47] <tjb891> is having a electrostatic air purifier within 3 feet of my computer bad for it, it makes the speakers emit faint noises when they are on but idle?
[03:47] <ryanakca> i386-686 is pentium
[03:47] <bl4cktone> a binary downloader
[03:47] <bimberi> quux: lol
[03:47] <webhed> Dr_Willis - thanks
[03:47] <Dr_willis> tjb891,  i saw a case mod that used one of those as a main cooling fan.
[03:48] <ryanakca> tjb891: I wouldn't recommend it... I've zapped a few HD with static... but I can't say more than that...
[03:48] <Dr_willis> tjb891,  but theres the air moving parts.. then the electrostatic parts..  :)
[03:48] <Dr_willis> id move it to the other side of the room.
[03:48] <Dr_willis> clean it while you are moving it. those things get filthy fast
[03:48] <tjb891> ok
[03:48] <bimberi> home hints with Dr_willis :)
[03:48] <tjb891> ill turn it off a couple hours before i open my case
[03:48] <ryanakca> tjb891: if it's humid, it shouldn't be too much a problem... humidity cuts down on static... if it's dry... watch out :)
[03:49] <tjb891> thx
[03:49] <lumgwada> Hello I use gnome with a dual screen setup, I would like to set up one screen specifically for monitoring log tails  with all windows that are opened/moved to this screen become visible on all workspaces (preferably non focusable with alt+tab)... can any expert users suggest a method of achieving this?... or any other productivity tips? Any ideas would be great.
[03:49] <Dr_willis> bimberi,  wife has one and she smokes like crazy... that thing looke like it has road tar on it. :)
[03:49] <TrevorT> and dry skin?
[03:49] <bimberi> hehe
[03:49] <TrevorT> due to lack of humidity..
[03:49] <TrevorT> and also working with cement, and drywall without gloves
[03:50] <TrevorT> and quite a bit of electrical and cat6
[03:50] <ryanakca> writing on a chalkboard, my mom is a teacher and allwais has dry hands... and we're offtopic :)
[03:50] <heaths> teachers still have chalkboards?
[03:50] <TrevorT> ugh that would suck
[03:50] <indref> Bye  :D
[03:50] <Dr_willis> The New Ubuntu Line of Skn Care products!
[03:50] <bimberi> lol
[03:51] <TrevorT> Penguin Lotion
[03:51] <TrevorT> made from 100$
[03:51] <TrevorT> err %
[03:51] <TrevorT> you know
[03:51] <Dr_willis> Pengunlinan
[03:51] <TrevorT> hahahaha
[03:51] <Dr_willis> Lanalon
[03:51] <Dr_willis> whatever that *#*@* stuff they get from lambs wool is.
[03:51] <TrevorT> I'll take it
[03:51] <TrevorT> if it'll heal my wonded wannabe girl hands
[03:52] <Dr_willis> Its supposed to be good stuff.
[03:52] <TrevorT> We've got lots of stuff from bed bath and beyond that I need to take advantage of
[03:52] <heaths> Bag Balm
[03:52] <Dr_willis> The latest additions to our range are Lanolin Oil and Lanolin Hand Lotion with Manuka Honey,
[03:52] <heaths> ftw
[03:53] <TrevorT> some cuticle treatment stuff too, I didn't bother trimming my fingernails or tonails for a month because of all the work on the office here
[03:53] <TrevorT> but is now finished so I'm slowly starting to resume normal living practices
[03:54] <Dr_willis> Lanolin, also called, Adeps Lanae, wool wax, wool fat, or wool grease, a greasy yellow substance from wool-bearing animals, acts as a skin ointment, water-proofing wax, and raw material (such as in shoe polish).
[03:54] <Unix_n_Coffee> my ubuntu is all messed up the resolution :(
[03:54] <Unix_n_Coffee> it has small dots on it
[03:54] <Unix_n_Coffee> and its not clear
[03:54] <heaths> blink more
[03:54] <Unix_n_Coffee> seems to be 256mb the color
[03:54] <jimmy_neutron> i need some help with ssh
[03:54] <Unix_n_Coffee> i tried reseting the xserver
[03:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> i guess it didn't work
[03:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> 833 people in here wow
[03:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> someone help me please?
[03:55] <ethos_> god that sucks, I just went though all that.   And the sad thing is, I got it to work, but I have no idea what I did....
[03:55] <TrevorT> 833 new possibilities
[03:55] <jimmy_neutron> i can connect to ssh via putty. but how can i forward ports like port 80, 443, 8080, etc through the tunnel?
[03:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> i am on alaptop
[03:56] <TrevorT> jimmy_neutron: in the settings thing
[03:56] <Unix_n_Coffee> what do i do?
[03:56] <Unix_n_Coffee> :|
[03:56] <TrevorT> err
[03:56] <TrevorT> privmsg
[03:56] <Xenguy> jimmy_neutron: read an article or two ?
[03:56] <Unix_n_Coffee> i guess ill try reseting the xserver for the 10th time
[03:57] <TrevorT> Xenguy: I privmsg'd him
[03:57] <jimmy_neutron> i want to have the ability to use unsecure wifi aps and connect to my network
[03:57] <Xenguy> !pm
[03:57] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[03:57] <Xenguy> shit - still worked :P
[03:57] <heaths> Unix: have you tried anything aside from restarting X?
[03:57] <jimmy_neutron> Xenguy: yea. thats how i setup ssh
[03:57] <Unix_n_Coffee> jimmy_netron you have to know the networks name
[03:58] <TrevorT> hey xen guy, do you know if I can possibly apt-get dist-upgrade to get 64bit ubuntu on here?
[03:58] <Unix_n_Coffee> well not exactly
[03:58] <Unix_n_Coffee> :)
[03:58] <Xenguy> TrevorT: don't run 64, no idea
[03:58] <Unix_n_Coffee> see the icon on the top
[03:58] <TrevorT> cool thanks
[03:58] <Unix_n_Coffee> with 2 computers
[03:58] <TrevorT> me?
[03:59] <Unix_n_Coffee> haha no jimmy
[03:59] <Unix_n_Coffee> guys my graphics hard isnt working! was working fine for a year
[03:59] <Unix_n_Coffee> i am on a laptop
[03:59] <Unix_n_Coffee> :(
[03:59] <TrevorT> bah, I'll just get the dapper 64 cd
[03:59] <saveferris> yo
[03:59] <saveferris> chris
[03:59] <TrevorT> before I do though, anyone know of any X/fglrx problems with it?
[03:59] <saveferris> yo
[03:59] <saveferris> chris
[04:00] <nirvanax4894> yeah
[04:00] <TrevorT> such as
[04:00] <Unix_n_Coffee> i was in recovery console
[04:00] <Red-Sox> How come scrolling no longer works on my touchpad?
[04:00] <Dr_willis> I dont see much point in using the 64bit disrtos at this time
[04:00] <Unix_n_Coffee> REd-Sox xserver problem?
[04:00] <TrevorT> Red-Sox: Synaptics hot corner?
[04:00] <malcolm> I've installed jre, and limewire on ubuntu, but when i go to run limewire it tells me that I don't have jre
[04:00] <Red-Sox> ungratefuljoint: I don't hink so Trevinho Yes
[04:00] <Unix_n_Coffee> err my graphics !
[04:01] <Red-Sox> malcolm: Give Frostwire a shot <3
[04:01] <TrevorT> Red-Sox: give me your email and I'll send you my xorg..
[04:01] <Red-Sox> malcolm: There is a .deb package available at the website
[04:01] <TrevorT> you should also have xorg-driver-synaptics or something to that effect
[04:01] <Red-Sox> Trevinho: PM?
[04:01] <TrevorT> ya
[04:01] <jimmy_neutron> anyone?
[04:02] <TrevorT> dapper getting replaced soon?
[04:02] <Red-Sox> TrevorT: did you get it?
[04:02] <Dr_willis> !release
[04:02] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[04:02] <Unix_n_Coffee> DBO where are when i need you
[04:02] <Red-Sox> oh TrevorT you need to indentify
[04:02] <DBO> Unix_n_Coffee, at work till next week
[04:02] <TrevorT> ohhh
[04:03] <Unix_n_Coffee> DBO could you help me here, these kids are being mean! :P
[04:03] <TrevorT> thank you
[04:03] <DBO> Unix_n_Coffee, whats wrong?
[04:03] <Unix_n_Coffee> I have a server problem!
[04:03] <Unix_n_Coffee> I have a xserver problem!
[04:03] <TrevorT> identified (+e)
[04:03] <Unix_n_Coffee> my grpahics are set seems like to be 256mb
[04:04] <Unix_n_Coffee> shut be bits like 32 bit
[04:04] <Unix_n_Coffee> shud*
[04:04] <MaxL> Um, will a ATI Radeon X700 Pro 256MB AGP Video Card work in Ubuntu Dapper Drake, or any Linux for that matter?
[04:04] <DBO> Unix_n_Coffee, what you said makes no sense...
[04:04] <DBO> MaxL, yes
[04:04] <MaxL> DBO, any tweaking? And whats the deal with drivers?
[04:04] <jimmy_neutron> i have an exsiting ssh serv and client is putty on winxp. how can i frwd ports like HTTP traffic through the ssh tunnel
[04:05] <wick2o> hello, i have a very stupid question....i did a rm -rf on a folder that seemed to have a link to my /var/log folder
[04:05] <DBO> !fglrx MaxL
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fglrx MaxL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <wick2o> if i (as root) recreate the /var/log folder
[04:05] <DBO> !fglrx > MaxL
[04:05] <powerbook> how would I go about installing apache2 php and mysql on ubuntu dapper
[04:05] <wick2o> will the logs start to regen themselves?
[04:05] <ethos_> maxl, yes It will I JUST got mine to work....but I could not tell you how to go about it.  But it does work
[04:05] <wick2o> powerbook apt-get -y install mysqld apache2 php
[04:05] <wick2o> or use symantic (sp?)
[04:05] <MaxL> ethos_ so it takes some work to get it to work in linux?
[04:06] <Unix_n_Coffee> ok DBO, i wanted to get cedgea working, and so i fiqured to install more resolutions to make some games work, i then reseted the xserver with the commands and now i am left with small dots on my screen not clear!
[04:06] <powerbook> wick20: I don't want to screw it up, what packages exactly would I need to install (all of them)
[04:06] <wick2o> powerbook use symantic
[04:06] <wick2o> look down the list, pick the versions you need
[04:06] <DBO> Unix_n_Coffee, what video card?
[04:06] <wick2o> click install and away it goes
[04:06] <Unix_n_Coffee> nvidia gogo 700
[04:06] <Unix_n_Coffee> i am not sure ill look
[04:06] <ethos_> ya it deffinetly works, but i'm such a noob with this stuff, I just crashed my way through it.......BUT like I said it does work, and I have the exact same specs as you
[04:07] <DBO> Unix_n_Coffee, can I see your xorg.conf please in pastebin
[04:07] <Unix_n_Coffee> Quadro4 700 GoGL
[04:07] <Unix_n_Coffee> ok
[04:07] <jimmy_neutron> anyone?
[04:07] <wick2o> powerbook: http://www.linux-fuer-alle.de/doc_show.php?docid=43
[04:07] <Unix_n_Coffee> got the link to pastebin?
[04:07] <DBO> !paste > Unix_n_Coffee
[04:07] <wick2o> .sorry didnt realize that was in german
[04:07] <Dr_willis> jimmy_neutron,  time to google for a ssh/windows guide or 2 i think.
[04:07] <powerbook> :o
[04:08] <len> !xinit
[04:08] <ubotu> xinit: X server initialisation tool. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.1-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 25 kB, installed size 144 kB
[04:08] <Unix_n_Coffee> DBO http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25034/ :)
[04:08] <Unix_n_Coffee> DBO i know to change nvidia to nv
[04:08] <ungratefuljoint> lol i installed wine, and the pokerstars windows client that my mate used before i forced ubuntu onto his laptop works fine :)
[04:09] <powerbook> what packages are needed for isntalling apache2 php and mysql
[04:09] <wick2o> powerbook: i told you
[04:09] <DBO> Unix_n_Coffee, sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[04:10] <Unix_n_Coffee> did nothing
[04:10] <wick2o> Symantic Package manager
[04:10] <DBO> Unix_n_Coffee, ok what monitor do you have?
[04:10] <Unix_n_Coffee> says nothing
[04:10] <Unix_n_Coffee> i am on a laptop
[04:10] <ungratefuljoint> is there information on installing codecs for all differnet packages, ie mpeg1 -2 mp4 mp3 divx xvid, in a system like fashion so that all packages can use them.....
[04:11] <DBO> Unix_n_Coffee, oh this is going to be fun, which laptop?
[04:11] <Unix_n_Coffee> Dell precision m50
[04:11] <Red-Sox> TrevorT: Check your PM?
[04:11] <bimberi> ubotu tell ungratefuljoint about restrictedformats
[04:11] <Unix_n_Coffee> DBO ;) you know what i was thinking maybe now
[04:12] <Unix_n_Coffee> maybe i can use my old ubuntu's xorg configuration?
[04:12] <Lam_> i used to be able to hover my mouse over music files and they would automatically play. now they don't do that anymore. why? :P
[04:12] <Unix_n_Coffee> for breezy bagger?
[04:12] <DBO> Unix_n_Coffee, if you wanna try go ahead
[04:12] <heaths> sweet ubuntu installed in vmware with no tweaking at all
[04:12] <Flannel> !tell Lam_ about mp3
[04:12] <Unix_n_Coffee> but its a different laptop ...
[04:12] <Flannel> Lam_: on that page (restricted formats) theres instructions on getting the hover preview thing working
[04:12] <Unix_n_Coffee> :| only problem
[04:12] <d3v1ant0n3> Hellos. Is there any way of making panels the bottom layer on a screen (So windows float over them rather than under) on GNOME?
[04:13] <DBO> Unix_n_Coffee, your monitor range probably needs to be improved
[04:13] <Unix_n_Coffee> ok
[04:13] <DBO> check the ranges on your old xorg.conf
[04:13] <Lam_> Flannel:  neat. thanks a lot
[04:13] <OmniD> hellooo #ubuntu I was wondering how to get the controller device working
[04:13] <Unix_n_Coffee> chris@chris-laptop:~$ sudo gedit
[04:13] <Unix_n_Coffee> GTK Accessibility Module initialized
[04:13] <Unix_n_Coffee> application finalize called
[04:13] <Unix_n_Coffee> err
[04:13] <Unix_n_Coffee> wont load
[04:14] <powerbook> Should I install php5 or php4? (I remember reading something about problems with php4?)
[04:14] <Flannel> powerbook: not that I'm aware of, you might try ##php if youre worried about it
[04:14] <crimsun> powerbook: the former
[04:14] <powerbook> php4? crimsun?
[04:15] <Philip5>  i'm having a strange install problem with php and apache2 on ubuntu... i have apt-get and installed them both and also used a2enmod to enable php5 module (also installed with apt) but when i click on a php page on my server it wants to be downloaded
[04:16] <AtKaaZ> hi, can one play two audio streams from console ? ie. mp3blaster and sox's "play" (or ie. two mp3s at once, in console, not in X)
[04:16] <`paul> my firefox crashes evrytime with a "Bus error".... is this a bug or sumthin?
[04:16] <Philip5> apache say that he have loaded the php5 module when i restart it. and the mimetype is also set
[04:18] <skaller> hi, I'm upstream author of 'felix' and would like some advice how to link Launchpad to upstream bug tracker on sourceforge
[04:18] <Skarr> OK , I installed ntgdisk and ndiswrapper and then I made a new driver and got the .inf file but it says that I don't have the hardware
[04:19] <AbortD> can someone help me im getting a error in amarok it says
[04:19] <Flannel> Philip5: double check that the addTypes are in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf
[04:19] <AbortD> The Script 'Default' exited with error code: 127
[04:19] <bimberi> skaller: hi, give the #launchpad channel a try for that one
[04:19] <hype> hi
[04:19] <skaller> thanks
[04:19] <AbortD> Details: /usr/bin/env: ruby: No such file or directory
[04:20] <Philip5> Flannel: they are
[04:20] <`paul> my firefox crashes evrytime with a "Bus error" pls help
[04:20] <bimberi> skaller: np :)
[04:20] <Flannel> Philip5: and the php.conf looks normal?
[04:20] <Skarr> OK , I installed ntgdisk and ndiswrapper and then I made a new driver and got the .inf file but it says that I don't have the hardware
[04:20] <Philip5> Flannel: yes
[04:20] <hype> just one question i plan to install Edgy on a new partition. Is it safe to keep my actual /home? (knowing lots of apps of edgy are different from dapper)
[04:21] <Flannel> hype: #ubuntu+1
[04:21] <hype> soz
[04:21] <foo> How can I get gnucash working on ubuntu? ubuntu has 1.8
[04:21] <Skarr> ...
[04:22] <Philip5> Flannel: normal for php5.conf i hope is just having the addtypes
[04:22] <bimberi> foo: install that then, or are you looking for 2.0?
[04:23] <foo> bimberi: Looking to get 2.0 working if I can
[04:24] <Skarr> Can anyone help me with it?
[04:24] <Flannel> Philip5: yeah, and you're sure you got all three packages?
[04:25] <Philip5> Flannel: what three are you think of? apache, mod_php5 and?
[04:25] <bimberi> foo: hm, unless there is a dapper backport available you can either wait for (or use the beta of) edgy or backport it yourself
[04:25] <sproingie> hype: it's safe insofar as nothing will screw up the packages.  if anything acts funny though, you might have to knock out old files under your old ~/.gnome2
[04:26] <sproingie> aaaand he's gone
[04:26] <foo> bimberi: eh, I'll just use 1.8 I uguess
[04:26] <THX-1138> Did anyone else hear that? - Orc on the loose. - see you later and THANK YOU.
[04:28] <Philip5> Flannel: works now... some stange way it was a firefoxproblem.... if i flushed the cache it worked
[04:28] <Philip5> Flannel: thans anyway
[04:28] <Arrick> hey guys and gals, what is a good CD burnign Application for Ubuntu Breezy?
[04:28] <Flannel> Philip5: hmm, that is odd.
[04:28] <Philip5> Flannel: very
[04:29] <ungrateful-joint> is there information on installing codecs for all differnet packages, ie mpeg1 -2 mp4 mp3 divx xvid, in a system like fashion so that all packages can use them.....
[04:30] <ArrenLex> !codecs
[04:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:30] <Luke> Arrick: nautilus can burn CDs
[04:30] <ungrateful-joint> ubotu, thank you
[04:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thank you - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:30] <Arrick> Luke, is it in there by default?
[04:30] <powerbook> I just installed apache2 php and mysql, what is my mysql password?
[04:30] <joe__> hey, sound doesn't work on my 386 kernel partition but it does work on my amd64 partition, why?
[04:31] <ungrateful-joint> oh sh*t what a noob i am lol. ArrenLex thank you. lol
[04:31] <ArrenLex> No worries. =P
[04:31] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Trying to compile an app and it seems that  X11/Intrinsic.h  is missing.. Cant seem to findit anywhere.. forums mention others with similer issue.. but no fix.
[04:31] <Dr_willis> or am i missing somtning here.
[04:32] <ArrenLex> Willis: do you have xlibs-dev installed?
[04:32] <ArrenLex> Willis: specifically libxt-dev?
[04:32] <boris55> any ubuntu developers, here? I have a question.
[04:33] <ArrenLex> Willis: when you can't find files for compile time, pacakges.ubuntu.com is your best friend: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=Intrinsic.h&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=dapper&arch=i386
[04:33] <ArrenLex> !ask
[04:33] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:33] <boris55> why doesn't ubuntu come with setserial?
[04:34] <Dr_willis> ArrenLex,  i thought i did.. checking again
[04:34] <ArrenLex> boris: I'm guessing few people have serial ports anymore?
[04:34] <boris55> I have a modem that uses irq 169 and it's not recognzed until I use setserial
[04:34] <boris55> I still use dialup.
[04:34] <Dr_willis> libxt-dev Hmm lets check on that.
[04:34] <boris55> live way out in the country. high speed will be here in 10 years.
[04:34] <Beawolfe> can someone tell me how to get a par2 file to verify or work in the GUI?
[04:35] <ArrenLex> boris: you're the first person I've talked to in four years using dial-up. It's really not a popular request. It's removed to avoid bloat.
[04:35] <Dr_willis> libxt-dev aha - missing that one...
[04:35] <Dr_willis> :P
[04:35] <bimberi> boris55: setserial is on the CD, just not installed by default
[04:35] <ArrenLex> Dr_willis: told you so. =P
[04:35] <boris55> oh.. how do I find it on the cd?
[04:35] <Dr_willis> ArrenLex,  well lets see if that fixed it..
[04:36] <Dr_willis> ArrenLex,  :P theres about 4 questions like that in the forums as well.
[04:36] <bimberi> boris55: pool/main/s/setserial
[04:36] <Dr_willis> I just need to  apt-get install *-dev
[04:36] <ArrenLex> Dr_willis: that is a BAD idea.
[04:36] <ArrenLex> Dr_willis: you do that, you better have a terabyte hard drive.
[04:36] <bimberi> boris55: or add the CD as a repository and Synaptic will find it
[04:36] <heaths> lol
[04:36] <Dr_willis> ArrenLex,  :) close to it
[04:37] <heaths> won't be mising libraries though:)
[04:37] <boris55> nice.
[04:37] <Dr_willis> Gotta compile the latest VICE !
[04:37] <ArrenLex> Dr_willis: why? xD I had ten operating systems installed, 15 partitions, on my 40GB on my old computer, and was not pressed for space.
[04:37] <Dr_willis> and gotta try out the new gnome interface.. Lol
[04:37] <boris55> ok, I'll reinstall tomorrow.  I read the official ubuntu book. It almost made me cry.
[04:37] <Dr_willis> ArrenLex,  Emulators mainly :P
[04:38] <Dr_willis> I got 6000+ C64 games right now to look through
[04:38] <ArrenLex> Ah.
[04:38] <Dr_willis> 6000 c64 games = 412mb..
[04:38] <Dr_willis> LOL!
[04:38] <ArrenLex> Ah. xD
[04:38] <boris55> cannot believe how quickly the ubuntu community has reached critical mass.
[04:39] <Rookie-> good for linux ...
[04:39] <silvertip257> is sethk active @ this hour?
[04:39] <Zaxch> hey :p
[04:39] <heaths> i can't believe how many questions i've seen answered in the last 30 minutes
[04:39] <Dr_willis> boris55,  and they all come in here asking the same 10 questions... :P
[04:39] <ArrenLex> boris: it's a newbie distribution. Attractive to the "hating windows is cool" crowd.
[04:39] <silvertip257> heaths here's another one
[04:40] <silvertip257> heaths if i have a live CD for ubuntu that successfully boots up & runs
[04:40] <psylocybe> debian rlz :D
[04:40] <boris55> same 10 questions? like what for example?
[04:40] <ArrenLex> Debian all the way!
[04:40] <Admiral_Chicago> #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:40] <heaths> i have to say as far as out of the box installation (vmware at least) that was simple
[04:40] <silvertip257> could the MBR be bad so that when i install it it would not boot the drive at all
[04:41] <silvertip257> heaths the past few things i said are my questions for you
[04:41] <jackson> to where is the repo sun jre 5.0 installed? I can't find it in /usr/lib/
[04:41] <ArrenLex> silver: grub refused to work on my old computer. I had to go with a third-party bootloader. It could be just something weird about your setup.
[04:41] <silvertip257> will anyone answer a question for me ???
[04:42] <bimberi> jackson: dpkg -L sun-java5-jre
[04:42] <ArrenLex> jackson: /usr/lib/jvm/
[04:43] <sethk> silvertip257, yes
[04:43] <silvertip257> heaths i'm not registered
[04:43] <silvertip257> ok sethk
[04:43] <silvertip257> i need to know ur opinion
[04:43] <swj> could someone tell me how to recover my password by sending it to the email address I registered with? thanks
[04:43] <silvertip257> if i burnt a CD at max speed could the MBR be messed up ?
[04:44] <sethk> silvertip257, it's not impossible.  If you mean you are booting from the CD, it doesn't really have an MBR, but it  has something equivalent
[04:44] <Admiral_Chicago> silvertip257, so
[04:44] <silvertip257> plus if the live CD booted a temporary OS, how could the MBR be bad or is the MBR copied to the hd be from a diff file
[04:44] <Admiral_Chicago> well not really
[04:44] <bimberi> swj: password to what? launchpad?
[04:44] <sethk> silvertip257, I've seen cases where a cd didn't boot, someone burned another at a slower speed, and it worked.
[04:44] <sethk> silvertip257, in fact I had that happen to me last week at work.
[04:44] <silvertip257> wow
[04:45] <swj> bimberi: password for freenode
[04:45] <sethk> silvertip257, if you aren't sure, go ahead and reburn, all you risk is a blank cd
[04:45] <jackson> bimberi: thanks. but how do I get eclipse to use it?
[04:45] <bimberi> swj: you need to contact a freenode staffer for that
[04:45] <Flannel> jackson: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:45] <bimberi> swj: see the FAQ on the freenode.net website
[04:45] <swj> bimberi: thanks
[04:46] <bimberi> thanks Flannel :)
[04:46] <silvertip257> dang it i fudged up
[04:46] <silvertip257> sethk i went to close a chat tab & totally disconnected
[04:46] <silvertip257> so sorry please repeat
[04:46] <ReinH> Hi folks, how's it going?
[04:46] <silvertip257> you had a bad CD @ work
[04:46] <AbortD> !amarok
[04:46] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[04:47] <b-_-d> help i want to install but i have no blank cd :( can i install from inside some other linux
[04:47] <b-_-d> chroot or something
[04:47] <silvertip257> sethk you there?
[04:47] <sethk> silvertip257, yes, but only for another minute
[04:47] <silvertip257> oh
[04:47] <Asymmetry> I can't remember what install versions are on what ISOs. Does the DVD include both a desktop installer, and the server installer?
[04:48] <silvertip257> sethk if i burn a slower CD that will mostlikely fix it ?
[04:48] <sethk> silvertip257, I can't say that.  No reasonable way for me to estimate the odds.
[04:48] <silvertip257> ok sethk
[04:48] <sethk> silvertip257, are you burning it in a dvd/cd combo, by the way?
[04:48] <silvertip257> sethk yes i am
[04:48] <bimberi> b-_-d: there's a few different methods described at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation .  Hopefully something there will help you
[04:48] <pcdoc911> i am looking at instaling ubuntu on my system and have many many questions
[04:48] <silvertip257> DVD/CD-R/RW
[04:49] <b-_-d> thanks
[04:49] <sethk> silvertip257, I've seen this sort of problem more with those than with a burner that is just cd, not cd/dvd
[04:49] <Flannel> silvertip257: 4x is the speed you want to burn at
[04:49] <sethk> silvertip257, which makes a certain amount of sense, since the heads are a bit different
[04:49] <sethk> silvertip257, Flannel has a good recommendation
[04:49] <qch> anyone able to checkout audacity cvs?
[04:49] <silvertip257> ok thank you sethk & Flannel
[04:49] <silvertip257> i'll do that
[04:50] <silvertip257> btw i'll be lookin for you guys if something goes wrong
[04:50] <sethk> silvertip257, as I said, all you'll lose is a blank cd/r.  no guarantees, though, just a possibility.
[04:50] <silvertip257> esp b/c you were of so much help this round
[04:50] <Flannel> silvertip257: take the time to check the md5 of the iso first
[04:50] <Asymmetry> Oh, another question: Does Ubuntu support XFS?
[04:50] <silvertip257> how do i check that Flannel
[04:50] <swj> Looks like all the staffers are here :)
[04:50] <bimberi> pcdoc911: ask away
[04:50] <sethk> silvertip257, if you have cygwin installed, you just do:    md5sum iso-file-name
[04:51] <sethk> silvertip257, but I suspect you don't have cygwin installed.  :)
[04:51] <len> how do I stop 3rd mouse button emulation?
[04:51] <silvertip257> nah
[04:51] <Beawolfe> another NOOB here with a question...can someone tell me how to get a par2 file to verify or work in the GUI?
[04:51] <silvertip257> i'll get it tho if thats the easiest sethk
[04:51] <sethk> silvertip257, I don't know how to do it in windows without cygwin, but I'm sure there are a few thousand ways.
[04:51] <silvertip257> eh well i'll get it
[04:51] <pollypocket> how can I set the system to not auto-play a dvd after the the disc is mounted
[04:52] <sethk> silvertip257, if you do, change the install option from "default" to "all"
[04:52] <dallingham> Hi. I'm having problems bringing up a DLINK wireless PCI card (wda-1320. I keep getting a "Set Mode" (8B06) error. Any ideas?
[04:52] <silvertip257> sethk:  what ?!?!
[04:52] <bimberi> Asymmetry: ubuntu's mount command indicates support for xfs filesystems, i'm fairly sure it's not offered during install though
[04:52] <Flannel> silvertip257: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto  but, you need a utility to generate the md5 on windows
[04:52] <sethk> silvertip257, it will give you a list of packages.  don't change those.  the very first line is an option for all the packages.
[04:52] <Asymmetry> bimberi, Okay, ReiserFS is good enough, then.
[04:52] <len> how do I stop 3rd mouse button emulation????
[04:53] <Flannel> Asymmetry: if you get the alternate ISO, I believe XFS is available, I dont believe itis on the DEsktop ISO though
[04:53] <Unix_n_Coffee> DBO here? :)
[04:53] <sethk> silvertip257, you'll see it, in the cygwin installer.  click where it says default, _once_, and wait, it takes 15 or 20 seconds sometimes to change from "default" to "all"
[04:53] <avr> /topic
[04:53] <Unix_n_Coffee> DBO i got graphics to work :))
[04:53] <sethk> silvertip257, and if you click it again, it will change back to default.
[04:53] <sethk> silvertip257, www.cygin.com
[04:53] <Unix_n_Coffee> thanks for all your help
[04:53] <sethk> silvertip257, sorry, www.cygwin.com
[04:53] <Unix_n_Coffee> anyone familiar with cedega?
[04:53] <silvertip257> sethk ummm lemme get cygwin first
[04:54] <bimberi> len: look for the "Emulate3Buttons" option and /etc/X11/xorg.conf and set to false
[04:54] <Flannel> Unix_n_Coffee: might try #cedega
[04:54] <Unix_n_Coffee> Flannel nobody is helping me in there
[04:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> Flannel there being kids!
[04:55] <silvertip257> sethk what type of cygwin do i need to install ?
[04:55] <silvertip257> the Unix or the DOS
[04:55] <len> bimberi: ty
[04:55] <heaths> silvertip257: md5sum.exe (windows) a tad easier than getting cywin:)
[04:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> Flannel i just have a error of cannot find 640x480 video mode
[04:55] <bimberi> len: np
[04:55] <Beawolfe> your not the only one Unix_N_Coffee
[04:55] <silvertip257> ok heaths
[04:55] <heaths> silvertip257: if all you want to do is check the hash
[04:55] <Asymmetry> You know what's fun? Someone says to you, "You know what?" and you answer with "Yes, actually, I do." They just stand there like 'wait... what?'
[04:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> Beawolfe thanks :)
[04:55] <silvertip257> umm i'm listening 2 sethk heaths, i'm not sure what i'm checkin
[04:55] <sethk> heaths, definitely, I said there must be a thousand other ways.   cygwin is a good package to have, though
[04:55] <sortadi> which is the boot option that disables the bootsplash?
[04:56] <sethk> silvertip257, any md5sum program will give you the same answer
[04:56] <sortadi> which is the boot option that disables the bootsplash?
[04:56] <dallingham> Any ideas on why a dlink pci wireless is giving an error (Set Mode 8B06)
[04:56] <Unix_n_Coffee> Flannel i just have a error of cannot find 640x480 video mode cedega error ... Xorg problem? :|
[04:56] <silvertip257> how do i know if it's good ? sethk
[04:56] <wetduck_> Does anybody here knows how to set a samba software?
[04:56] <sethk> silvertip257, oh, you'll find a file on the download site with the md5sum for each download file
[04:56] <sortadi> which is the boot option that disables the bootsplash?
[04:56] <Unix_n_Coffee> anybody know?
[04:56] <Flannel> Unix_n_Coffee: I have no idea  I've never used cedega.  You bought it presumably, doesn't it give support with your $5 a month?
[04:56] <Flannel> !tell wetduck_ about samba
[04:56] <silvertip257> sethk oh .....hmmmm
[04:56] <sethk> silvertip257, sometimes there is a small file for each download file, and sometimes there is one file with sums for all the download files
[04:56] <b-_-d> Reiser4 supported?
[04:57] <sethk> silvertip257, check the names, it will be reasonably obvious
[04:57] <Unix_n_Coffee> yes it does i suppose
[04:57] <Unix_n_Coffee> thanks Flannel
[04:57] <sortadi> which is the boot option that disables the bootsplash?
[04:57] <wetduck_> !samba
[04:57] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:57] <avr> hello, my USB keyboard and mouse aren't working after a breezy (2.6.12) -> dapper (2.6.15-27) upgrade yesterday. The old kernel works. dmesg | tail says 'usb 1-1: device not accepting address 13, error -71'
[04:57] <silvertip257> heaths, sethk - md5sum.exe does not work in command prompt
[04:57] <sortadi> which is the boot option that disables the bootsplash?
[04:57] <bruenig> !repeat
[04:57] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:57] <heaths> you have to down load it (48k)
[04:57] <Dr_willis> sortadi,  'nosplash'
[04:58] <sortadi> !patience
[04:58] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:58] <silvertip257> where heaths
[04:58] <Dr_willis> sortadi,  may want to disable the framebuffer also with 'nofb'
[04:58] <sortadi> Dr_willis, thanks a lot
[04:58] <sortadi> Dr_willis, what i want is a verbose boot
[04:58] <silvertip257> heaths nvm i got one http://www.etree.org/md5com.html
[04:58] <Flannel> sortadi: remove "quiet"
[04:58] <heaths> http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/using_md5sums.html
[04:58] <sortadi> Dr_willis, to check somethings at kernel level
[04:58] <heaths> has better instructions for ya:)
[04:58] <silvertip257> oh haha
[04:58] <sortadi> Flannel, thanks
[04:59] <foureight84> i'm currently using network-admin. i wanna use network-manager instead. do i have to disable network admin before i switch to network-manger? would removing it in apt do the job?
[05:00] <edmundo_v> hello, I was looking in my /etc/hosts file and found an entry with a 127.0.1.1 address, anyone knows why this line exists?
[05:00] <silvertip257> heaths wait a sec what am i doing now ?
[05:01] <Admiral_Chicago> edmundo_v, thats your computer
[05:01] <Admiral_Chicago> localhost
[05:01] <heaths> silvertip257: reading
[05:01] <sortadi> Flannel, is that option of quiet also enabled at live-dvd?
[05:01] <sortadi> Flannel, i am using a live one
[05:01] <silvertip257> heaths: ok
[05:01] <ArrenLex> Admiral: localhost=127.0.0.1
[05:01] <edmundo_v> Admiral_Chicago, no its my hostname, localhost is 127.0.0.1, so why a 127.0.1.1 entry?
[05:01] <heaths> silvertip257: the link explains how to get the tiny .exe and how to use it
[05:01] <Admiral_Chicago> ah i read to quickly
[05:01] <Admiral_Chicago> then i have no clue
[05:02] <silvertip257> heaths:  which tiny .exe file ?
[05:02] <edmundo_v> it works, but I didnt understood why it is there, I never saw any distribution that does that :)
[05:02] <foureight84> anyone?
[05:02] <silvertip257> heaths:  which sum do i want @ the bottom of this ? http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/
[05:03] <boris55> what's the story with easyubuntu? is this an "official" ubuntu add on?
[05:03] <bruenig> I would assume if you removed it in apt that it would be unusable
[05:03] <bruenig> !easyubuntu
[05:03] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[05:03] <johnficca> automatix is better
[05:03] <silvertip257> heaths nvm
[05:03] <silvertip257> heaths what utility do i use now that i know the hash i need to check
[05:04] <bruenig> they are both evil so says people who I would think knows
[05:04] <boris55> ok, I just saw it on the net and it had all of the ubuntu logos and color schemes. looked kind of shady.
[05:04] <Xenguy> the word is, don't use either
[05:05] <Xenguy> or rather, use at your own risk :-)
[05:05] <bruenig> with the restricted format page, there really is no reason to, although it does take a bit longer to do it yourself
[05:05] <Xenguy> bruenig: yeah, pretty easy
[05:06] <boris55> I was encouraged to learn that there is an open source dvd format. Do you think it will get any traction?
[05:06] <Xenguy> boris55: what is the name?
[05:06] <boris55> not sure I read it in the official ubuntu book.
[05:06] <boris55> analagous to ogg
[05:07] <Beawolfe> A very confussed NOOB here......can someone tell me how to get a par2 file to verify or work in the GUI?
[05:07] <johnficca> does anyone know how to get w32codecs working all the way in ubuntu 64 bit
[05:07] <Xenguy> !restricted
[05:07] <bruenig> johnficca, there are some codecs that just don't exist for 64 bit
[05:07] <ArrenLex> johnficca: you can't.
[05:07] <Xenguy> bloody hell
[05:08] <johnficca> oh cool
[05:08] <boris55> I seriously don't understand restricted formats..  They all should be opened source.
[05:08] <ArrenLex> boris55: it's called "money" and some companies have to "make" it.
[05:08] <johnficca> tell that to the DRM
[05:08] <bruenig> they can make it with hardware
[05:09] <ArrenLex> bruenig: no, because there are already hardware companies.
[05:09] <bruenig> software ought to be free, and it is going that way
[05:09] <johnficca> is there any legal way to play dvds in ubuntu
[05:09] <johnficca> ?
[05:09] <ArrenLex> burenig: if they don't restrict your freedom you will copy intellectual property or something equally akin to murdering and eating little puppies.
[05:09] <bruenig> johnficca, not in the US
[05:09] <ArrenLex> buernig: and then big movie studios won't make deals with them. And you won't get money.
[05:10] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: fuck software corporations - all of them :-)
[05:10] <Xenguy> thank you
[05:10] <ArrenLex> !language
[05:10] <johnficca> what about the freespire dvd codeocs
[05:10] <bruenig> ubotu must be gone
[05:10] <ArrenLex> ...ubotu is dead.
[05:10] <Xenguy> oops - fsck
[05:10] <ArrenLex> We knew you well, little guy. ;__;
[05:10] <ArrenLex> Rest in peace. .__.
[05:10] <johnficca> can you use them in ubuntu?
[05:10] <bruenig> johnficca, it is illegal in the US
[05:10] <silvertip257> heaths:  i've figured it out & i'm checkin it now
[05:10] <nrdb> what gets me is when hardware compainies (i.e. epson) force you to use there cartridges, (can't even get them from overseas).
[05:10] <johnficca> yeah but not for freespire
[05:11] <Xenguy> bruenig johnficca but then the US is illegal :P
[05:11] <Asymmetry> The US can't tell me what software I can and can't use for legal purposes.
[05:11] <bruenig> Xenguy, that statement makes no sense
[05:11] <ArrenLex> Asymmetry: actually... they can.
[05:11] <Asymmetry> No, actually, they can't.
[05:11] <bruenig> Asymmetry, they can, perhaps you are unaware of the basic concepts of social contract or governance
[05:11] <johnficca> I don't think so cuz I heard that ubuntu was talking to the freespire people about it
[05:11] <ArrenLex> Asymm: if you live there, they can. Whether or not you listen is up to you.
[05:11] <Asymmetry> Perhaps I'm not. I'm in the US military, I know full well.
[05:12] <Xenguy> bruenig: think different :P
[05:12] <johnficca> letting them use the dvd codecs
[05:12] <Rookie-> seems to be some OT here ....
[05:12] <Beawolfe> can someone tell me how to get a par2 file to verify or work in the GUI?
[05:12] <nrdb> I need to get the Gnome.pm perl package, does anyone know what package this is in?
[05:12] <Rookie-> !gnome.pm
[05:13] <Asymmetry> If I own a DVD, I can use whatever fscking codec I want to play it. If I want to make my own DVD with videos that I shot or have the legal rights to, or pictures, I can use whatever fscking codec I want to use to make it.
[05:13] <ArrenLex> Rookie: ubotu died.
[05:13] <Asymmetry> Nothing about that is illegal.
[05:13] <Rookie-> ohh
[05:13] <Xenguy> Asymmetry: kill your superioroids
[05:13] <ArrenLex> Asymmetry: you CAN, yes. You're just not ALLOWED. Theoretically.
[05:13] <Asymmetry> Since when? Show me where it says I can't.
[05:13] <ArrenLex> nrdb: libgnome-perl
[05:13] <dave_48091> DMCA , hehe
[05:13] <Asymmetry> Show me WHERE it says that.
[05:13] <nrdb> ArrenLex: thanks
[05:13] <ArrenLex> Asymmetry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libdvdcss
[05:13] <ArrenLex> Enjoy.
[05:13] <boris55> I think you can record in your own codec. You're just not allowed to use proprietary algorithms for codecs.
[05:13] <bruenig> Asymmetry, let me edit your comment for you ...If I own a DVD, I believe I should be able to use whatever fscking codec I want to play it. If I want to make my own DVD with videos that I shot or have the legal rights to, or pictures, I believe I should be able to use whatever fscking codec I want to use to make it.
[05:14] <kenestle> Does anyone have experience with the ppc 6.06?
[05:14] <dave_48091> google DMCA , and have a nice read
[05:14] <Asymmetry> bruenig, I meant exactly what the fuck I said.
[05:14] <bruenig> Asymmetry, the edit was for correctness
[05:14] <robert_> blah, debconf build is still giving me issues
[05:14] <johnficca> Freespire is a community-driven, Debian-based Linux distribution which legally supports (or has one-click access to support): MP3, DVD, Windows Media, QuickTime, Java, Flash
[05:14] <bruenig> not for sentiment
[05:14] <ArrenLex> Can we please stop swearing here?
[05:14] <Asymmetry> bruenig, The edit was for you. My statement was correct as is.
[05:14] <Rookie-> its a big diff. between "can" and "allowed"
[05:14] <kenestle> ppc anyone?
[05:14] <Xenguy> Asymmetry: yes, money grubbing CD/DVD monopolists are evil, and we like to copy stuff anyway
[05:14] <johnficca> so why can't we use there dvd codecs
[05:14] <bruenig> johnficca, yeah if you buy freespire because freespire pays the licensing fees
[05:15] <Asymmetry> Nothing in the DMCA says that I can't find a codec to use. If I'm not using it for commercial gain, it's all good.
[05:15] <dave_48091> nope
[05:15] <johnficca> freespire is FREE
[05:15] <Asymmetry> Especially when I bought the discs, I made the videos and photos, etc.
[05:15] <Beawolfe> can anybody here see what I am typing at all?
[05:15] <Asymmetry> My material, my legal rights.
[05:15] <dave_48091> if you defeat a security device its a 20 years
[05:15] <bruenig> Asymmetry, zealousness doesn't trump legality. Perhaps you believe the laws to be wrong unconstitutional whatever you stance may be. But that does not make you above the law.
[05:15] <ArrenLex> Asymmetry: you can create your own content and distribute it in whatever format suits your fancy. But if you're given a movie in a format that you don't own the copyright to, you can't decrypt it.
[05:15] <Rookie-> yea Beawolfe
[05:15] <johnficca> linspire is Not
[05:15] <Xenguy> johnficca: freespire is l0serware :P
[05:15] <Asymmetry> ArrenLex, I never said I could.
[05:16] <johnficca> yeah I know
[05:16] <Xenguy> Beawolfe: yep
[05:16] <Asymmetry> ArrenLex, I can PLAY it.
[05:16] <ArrenLex> Asymmetry; I think we're arguing about completely different things.
[05:16] <bruenig> Let me transform your claim into one that could be made by someone in the Klu Klux Klan. It is my right to kill blacks and jews, this country was founding by white christians and therefore I have a right to kill anyone I want who isn't a white christian.
[05:16] <Beawolfe> Rookie TY I was begining to wonder if I was just talk to myself
[05:16] <dave_48091> you dont own dvd's and comerical software , you licence it and that dosnt include doing what you want with it  , sadly in the usa
[05:16] <johnficca> but I was thinking if they got over the legal stuff I think ubuntu could too
[05:16] <ArrenLex> Asym: playing it requires decrypting it using software that hasn't paid for the rights to do this.
[05:16] <Asymmetry> bruenig, That's complete bullshit, and you know it.
[05:16] <Xenguy> bruenig: die
[05:16] <Xenguy> bruenig: :-)
[05:16] <etzerd> hello all
[05:16] <etzerd> ?
[05:16] <ArrenLex> bruenig: that's the ubuntu-helping spirit! =D
[05:16] <etzerd> I always have aquestion
[05:17] <etzerd> it is out of ubunu
[05:17] <bruenig> Asymmetry, as legitimate as your "bullshit" argument is in its substance, perhaps offer why that analogy is not applicable
[05:17] <ArrenLex> !ask
[05:17] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:17] <bruenig> both claim the law is wrong and doesn't apply
[05:17] <ArrenLex> UBOTU IS BACK! ^___^
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about IS BACK! ^___^ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <Xenguy> !question
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about question - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <etzerd> is anyone here ever install Debian?
[05:17] <bruenig> !ubotu
[05:17] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[05:17] <ArrenLex> etz: I have
[05:17] <Xenguy> ubotu: what?!!!?
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about what?!!!? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <ArrenLex> XD!
[05:17] <dave_48091> < yup , many many times
[05:17] <ArrenLex> Poor ubotu is confused.
[05:17] <boris55> you might be right but to go against a company with tons of guns( lawyers)  we don't stand a chance.
[05:17] <robert_> dpkg-deb: parse error, in file `php4-4.4.2/DEBIAN/control' near line 9: missing package name
[05:17] <zoredache> I have installed debian many times etzerd
[05:17] <etzerd> ok
[05:18] <etzerd> zoredache: I install Debian maybe10 time today
[05:18] <Xenguy>  ubotu know about answering but not questioning -- who programmed this crap? ;-)
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about know about answering but not questioning -- who programmed this crap? ;-) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <Xenguy> knows
[05:18] <ArrenLex> xD!
[05:18] <etzerd> always at the end of the installation I have an error of xserver
[05:18] <kenestle> noone here uses ppc?
[05:18] <ArrenLex> ubotu the meaning of life
[05:18] <ubotu> the: Full-screen character mode text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-4 (dapper), package size 277 kB, installed size 796 kB
[05:18] <ArrenLex> ...he's ignoring me! :(
[05:18] <bruenig> no, he responded to your the
[05:18] <kenestle> good answer me
[05:19] <bruenig> 'the'
[05:19] <etzerd> I have no problem like that when i install ubuntu or fedora or Suse. only with Debain
[05:19] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: uh boy :-)
[05:19] <ArrenLex> XD
[05:19] <Asymmetry> Well, this has been fun. I'm going to go do something constructive. I.e. not trying to justify why my legal rights are being compared to a violent racist group.
[05:19] <amicrawle> my nvida card is  jittrring
[05:19] <etzerd> my video card is a nVidia GeForce 6200 with 256MB of memory.
[05:19] <bruenig> how dare he have to justify his claims, what is this a liberal democracy, come on
[05:19] <amicrawle> on games the req opengl
[05:19] <etzerd> it seems Debain have a problem with nvidia
[05:19] <zoredache> etzerd, why are you asking about a Debian issue in an Ubuntu channel?  Anyway X on Debian isn't really that easy to tsetup
[05:19] <Xenguy> Asymmetry: die, rascit scum
[05:19] <dainanaki> anybody have advice on how to fix screen resolution? I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but it still won't change resolutions
[05:20] <silvertip257> heaths or sethk:  how could i check to see if my CD is indeed the problem ?
[05:20] <ArrenLex> bruenig: what? This? A liberal democracy? Have you seen the government lately?!
[05:20] <silvertip257> flannel:  how could i check to see if my CD is indeed the problem ?
[05:20] <bruenig> ArrenLex, right, that fits within my vague satire
[05:20] <bruenig> or sarcasm I suppose more aptly named
[05:20] <amicrawle> ,y card is a nvidia 9800 fx  512
[05:20] <Xenguy> gahh
[05:20] <etzerd> zoredache: I'm not asking Debain question it is just to prove how easy ubuntu is to install over a certain distro.
[05:20] <ArrenLex> !resolution
[05:20] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:21] <Xenguy> !New Years
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about New Years - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <ArrenLex> !botabuse
[05:21] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[05:21] <dave_48091> that is because debian stable uses a older version of Xfree86 and not Xorg
[05:21] <yst> ....
[05:21] <avihappy> How do i connect my windows mobile 5 device?
[05:21] <dainanaki> anybody have advice on how to fix screen resolution? I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but it still won't change resolutions
[05:21] <zoredache> etzerd, ah, well I definatly agree that Ubuntu is really great as a Desktop system
[05:21] <ArrenLex> Yeah, Xenguy. "Investigate" him somewhere else please. Get a room.
[05:21] <silvertip257> heaths, Flannel, & sethk:  how could i check to see if my CD is indeed the problem ?
[05:21] <ArrenLex> !resolution > dainanaki
[05:21] <etzerd> it is
[05:21] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: ahem, bruhahaha
[05:22] <dave_48091> dai , edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[05:22] <ArrenLex> !synce
[05:22] <ubotu> Details of setting up synce-serial at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PocketPCHowto
[05:22] <bruenig> silvertip257, you realize there are other people in the channel perfectly capable of answering?
[05:22] <silvertip257> bruenig go for it
[05:22] <Caitlin> Anybody in here know if Genbuntu is for real or is only a concept at this time?
[05:22] <boris55> too bad 6.10 won't be part of the ship it program.
[05:22] <Xenguy> Caitlin: definitely a concept
[05:22] <ArrenLex> Never hard of genbuntu. What is it?
[05:22] <bruenig> silvertip257, well the question is ambiguous, I assume you are talking about your install cd
[05:22] <bimberi> boris55: ooh, where are you getting that info from?
[05:23] <Caitlin> Xenguy: How do you figure the viablity of it?
[05:23] <silvertip257> yes bruenig
[05:23] <ArrenLex> What is genbuntu?
[05:23] <Xenguy> Caitlin: its the suitability that concerns me =)
[05:23] <bruenig> silvertip257, you should check the md5 of iso of the file you burned first
[05:23] <zoredache> I would guess that it is Gentoo+ubuntu....
[05:23] <Caitlin> Arrenlex: A concept to make a Gentoo type Linux.
[05:23] <bruenig> !md5
[05:23] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[05:23] <silvertip257> bruenig i just checked the hashes of my iso
[05:23] <silvertip257> *iso's
[05:23] <ArrenLex> ...isn't Gentoo already a Gentoo type Linux?
[05:23] <dave_48091> you can turn any linux os , into gentoo
[05:23] <Caitlin> Xenguy: Explain please?
[05:23] <Xenguy> Caitlin: no thank you
[05:24] <bruenig> silvertip257, if you burned at a high speed there could be burn errors. That is not checkable I don't believe. You could do a reburn at a lower speed and see if you get different results.
[05:24] <silvertip257> bruenig i'll do that
[05:24] <ArrenLex> bruenig: it's definitely checkable. md5sum /dev/hdc
[05:24] <dave_48091> also it makes a difference on what type of cdr or dvr media your using
[05:24] <Caitlin> Right but the idea of setting flags and such is better left to Gentoo and Source compiling wouldn't you think?
[05:24] <boris55> i saw an article on tuxmachines, or lxer...
[05:24] <Zer0> is there a channel for ubuntu ppc?
[05:24] <ArrenLex> !ppc
[05:24] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[05:24] <silvertip257> bruenig do u know of any free burning software that's good (just wondering)
[05:24] <Xenguy> Zer0: ubuntu-ppc
[05:25] <bruenig> silvertip257, for linux?
[05:25] <dave_48091> you can already compile on ubuntu , why do it ala gentoo ?
[05:25] <bimberi> boris55: np, i'll scratch around myself :)
[05:25] <zoredache> debian/ubuntu has can build packages from source... apt-get -b source {packagename} ...
[05:25] <ArrenLex> dave: too much time on your hands?
[05:25] <silvertip257> bruenig for both linux & windows plz
[05:25] <Caitlin> That's what I was wondering......
[05:25] <bruenig> ArrenLex, I had assumed he was using windows, just a hunch
[05:25] <Caitlin> That is why I asked if it was real or not.
[05:25] <Zer0> Xenguy: i get redirected here (#ubuntu)
[05:26] <dave_48091> I havnt heard of it , however anything is possible given enough skill and time/money hehe
[05:26] <bruenig> windows, not sure, I always used pirate nero before I switched which was technically free. For linux I use gnomebaker on the rare occasions that I actually burn stuff.
[05:26] <bruenig> pirated*
[05:26] <ArrenLex> I love k3b for burning.
[05:26] <ArrenLex> k3b owns all.
[05:26] <bruenig> k3b for gnome? no thanks half of kde for one app is not worth it
[05:26] <Zer0> does the aiport wireless card work with ubuntu ppc?
[05:26] <Caitlin> I mean I have used Ubuntu and I liked it. No complaints. Actually Edgy-Eft Knot 3 looked great.
[05:27] <dave_48091> why do you need X to burn a cd , hehe
[05:27] <bruenig> is knot 3 a live cd?
[05:27] <ArrenLex> bruenig: yes, same as dapper is.
[05:27] <Xenguy> kd3 is damn fine cd/dvd burning
[05:27] <Caitlin> Bruenig: Yes
[05:27] <Caitlin> Until it's finalized however.........
[05:27] <bimberi> Zer0: pretty sure it does - check via here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:28] <bruenig> might look at that when I get time. Love to experience the orange. Get to see the orange for one day every six months on the new released when I reformat
[05:28] <boris55> not the link I read but here it is.
[05:28] <boris55> http://everythingelse.wordpress.com/2006/09/20/shipit-will-not-take-orders-for-edgy-eft/
[05:28] <silvertip257> bruenig thank you i'll look for gnomebaker when i get a good stable linux OS running
[05:28] <avihappy> I have a windows mobile 5, and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PocketPCHowto did Not work.
[05:28] <bruenig> releases*
[05:28] <bimberi> boris55: thanks mate :)
[05:28] <bruenig> silvertip257, if you get ubuntu going it is a quick "sudo apt-get install gnomebaker" and your good to go
[05:29] <bruenig> !gnomebaker
[05:29] <ubotu> gnomebaker: application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 862 kB, installed size 2640 kB
[05:29] <bruenig> oh well actually you have to enable universe
[05:29] <Zer0> bimberi: thanks
[05:29] <AbortD> god kde is great
[05:29] <bimberi> ahh, shipit continuing with dapper.  fair enough i spose
[05:29] <dave_48091> right but its pretty easy to do it by cli , right ?
[05:29] <ArrenLex> KDE owns all.
[05:29] <silvertip257> bruenig, I'm quite new to the linux scene as you probably can tell, so I'm not sure all you're talkin about, but i'm sure there is documentation
[05:29] <boris55> just saw the release schedule. final is out on my ex anniversary, so at least I'll have something to celebrate.
[05:30] <Caitlin> Any word on KDE 4
[05:30] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: finally!
[05:30] <AbortD> :D
[05:30] <ArrenLex> Xenguy: suicidal?
[05:30] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: homocidal actually
[05:30] <bruenig> silvertip257, yeah well it takes a while but becomes very logical
[05:30] <roostishaw> anyone, why do i get the following when using sudo:  sudo: unable to lookup myname-ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[05:30] <Caitlin> I think Xenguy just doesn't like everything
[05:31] <bimberi> Zer0: np :)
[05:31] <Xenguy> Caitlin: some nights are better than others ;-)
[05:31] <Caitlin> Xenguy: I hear ya
[05:31] <silvertip257> bruenig what do u mean becomes very logical ?
[05:31] <Xenguy> silvertip257: comes naturally ?
[05:32] <bruenig> everything makes sense. There is a lot of stuff and commands that seem foreign but if you take the time to learn them, it all seems to cohesively make sense. It is not just a rote memory, do this command here. The command themselves make sense.
[05:32] <Caitlin> Ubuntu is very intuitive. One of it's strengths.
[05:32] <ArrenLex> its
[05:32] <JacksLivr> i have a windows xp single partition latop and a ubuntu CD. do i need anything else to turn this into a dual boot system? i dont have partition magic.
[05:32] <silvertip257> i hear ya bruenig ... i understand now, for a sec i wasnt sure what u were talkin bout srry
[05:33] <Caitlin> Ubuntu should help you dual boot JacksLivr
[05:33] <bruenig> JacksLivr, you can resize your windows partition within the ubuntu live/install cd
[05:33] <bimberi> ubotu tell roostishaw about hostname
[05:33] <Xenguy> bruenig: and all it takes is yaers to learn :-)
[05:33] <JacksLivr> is it safe?
[05:33] <boris55> anyone ever run Xubuntu?
[05:33] <verbose> where is DISPLAY set at runtime?
[05:33] <Xenguy> er, years
[05:33] <bruenig> JacksLivr, make sure you defragment your windows partition before you try to install
[05:33] <verbose> and is it safe to change it to hostname:0
[05:33] <silvertip257> bruenig what do u think about the 5 disk fedora core 5.0 linux ?
[05:33] <verbose> instead of :0.0
[05:33] <bruenig> JacksLivr, I did it with no problem
[05:33] <bimberi> roostishaw: (see /msg from ubotu) you will have to fix it in recovery mode
[05:33] <pcdoc911> ok can someone pm me with install and what to download help?
[05:33] <Xenguy> !pm
[05:33] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[05:33] <JacksLivr> bruenig: is the windows default defragger sufficient?
[05:33] <eBs|Jack> can anyone help with install from usb stick?
[05:34] <silvertip257> bruenig what do u think about the 5 disk fedora core 5.0 linux ?
[05:34] <eBs|Jack> jackslivr no
[05:34] <roostishaw> bimberi, eek! how do i get to recovery mode?
[05:34] <bruenig> 5 disks is overkill, I used Suse first because it had more disks and therefore I thought it would have more stuff and I wouldn't have to install it which I heard installing on linux was hard. But no big deal
 is there a free one that is?
[05:34] <Xenguy> roostishaw: rescue   ?
[05:34] <roostishaw> ya
[05:34] <eBs|Jack> not a good one jacks
[05:34] <roostishaw> Xenguy
[05:34] <roostishaw> ^^
[05:34] <JacksLivr> so what do i do?
[05:34] <eBs|Jack> o&o is good but its not free
[05:35] <eBs|Jack> crack it =)
[05:35] <Xenguy> roostishaw: :-)
[05:35] <eBs|Jack> ;p;
[05:35] <silvertip257> bruenig how many disks for Suse?  Can i get that for free too?
[05:35] <Caitlin> Suse and Redhat..... <Snicker>
[05:35] <ladydoor> !u > silvertip257
[05:35] <boris55> 6 disks.
[05:35] <JacksLivr> bruenig; what defragger did you use?
[05:35] <silvertip257> what ladydoor
[05:35] <bruenig> ultimately if you are looking for stability documentation and support, you have to go with ubuntu, once you get ubuntu under your belt you can move on if you like, I am thinking of moving on the gentoo or something else because of more control
[05:35] <boris55> 5 regular + 1 add on
[05:35] <roostishaw> Xenguy, so... how do i get there?
[05:35] <ladydoor> silvertip257: read the bot's pm :-)
[05:35] <eBs|Jack> hey guys i got my usb stick to boot the alternate install disk but i have problems mounting it as a cdrom drive
[05:36] <bruenig> JacksLivr, just the windows defragger, all the defragger does is allow you to resize the ntfs partition smaller
[05:36] <Xenguy> roostishaw: sorry, I'm not sure where you are now :-)
[05:36] <bruenig> as it all becomes situated closer together at the beginning of the drive
[05:36] <d_> Ubuntu is smarter than me again
[05:36] <roostishaw> Xenguy, how do i get into recovery mode to fix my problem...
[05:36] <Caitlin> Who needs 5 disks +1 for a linux install?
[05:36] <eBs|Jack> hey guys i got my usb stick to boot the alternate install disk but i have problems mounting it as a cdrom drive
[05:37] <thedash> I can't edit my sources.list ?  it says timestamp too far in the future
[05:37] <Xenguy> roostishaw: still not sure what your problem is, but stuff CD into drive and type 'rescue'   ?
[05:37] <silvertip257> ladydoor ... this is a chat room/channel!!!!!!!!
[05:37] <Xenguy> thedash: use root
[05:37] <thedash> I did
[05:37] <Xenguy> thedash: insane
[05:37] <bimberi> roostishaw: it's an option in the boot menu
[05:37] <bruenig> thedash, do sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:37] <boris55> I pledge only DVD installs from this point forward
[05:37] <eBs|Jack> thedash try checking that your system time is correct
[05:37] <silvertip257> ladydoor nah it's ok, but dont let me catch UUUUUU using u for you
[05:37] <roostishaw> bimberi, ok, and what do i edit in those two files?
[05:37] <thedash> it is
[05:37] <Beawolfe> NOOB here........need some help if possible..............been trying for 2 days to get the answer.........can someone tell me how to get a par2 file to verify or work in the GUI?
[05:37] <thedash> the time it gives me is a little ove 4 hours in the future
[05:37] <pcdoc911> can i please get a litte help?
[05:37] <ladydoor> silvertip257: I never got into the habit.
[05:38] <pcdoc911> i am a little lost
[05:38] <JacksLivr> cool defragging now
[05:38] <eBs|Jack> hey guys i got my usb stick to boot the alternate install disk but i have problems mounting it as a cdrom drive
[05:38] <Xenguy> thedash: if ubuntu won't "allow" you, install a different distribution on principle
[05:38] <JacksLivr> eBs|Jack: sorry im a noob
[05:38] <eBs|Jack> anyone help me with the usb stick install?
[05:38] <eBs|Jack> jackslivr so am i
[05:38] <eBs|Jack> =)
[05:38] <thedash> d@sh-main:/etc/apt$ sudo nano sources.list
[05:38] <thedash> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Sep 28 03:14:53 2006
[05:39] <Xenguy> thedash: seriously, you could try using rdate or ntp to set your clock
[05:39] <bimberi> roostishaw: have a look in them now.  one has just the hostname.  the other will have it next to an IP address (127.0.1.1 on my machine - ymmv)
[05:39] <thedash> working on ntp atm
[05:39] <Xenguy> thedash: choose the 'simple option
[05:39] <Xenguy> thedash: rdate is also simple
[05:39] <bruenig> Beawolfe, are you using usenet, you dirty pirater?
[05:39] <eBs|Jack> anyone ?? please??? i followed the instructions on the wiki and no luck....
[05:39] <silvertip257> ok ladydoor excuse me :P
[05:39] <roostishaw> bimberi, and what should i expect out of recovery mode?
[05:39] <bruenig> !usb
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <weex> how do you all recommend for me to backup my ubuntu laptop?
[05:40] <bimberi> roostishaw: a superuser prompt.  you can then 'cd /etc' and then 'nano hostname' and 'nano hosts' to do your work
[05:40] <ladydoor> roostishaw: recovery mode, also known as single-user mode, is a root bash shell.
[05:40] <roostishaw> ok, cool
[05:40] <thedash> well, my computer has the correct time
[05:40] <pcdoc911> is there a install at installs off the net?
[05:40] <silvertip257> catch you all later, thank you bruenig for all the help
[05:40] <Beawolfe> bruenig ................whats the difference..........I have been asking this question for 2 days now and I am being ignored
[05:41] <bruenig> Beawolfe, are you familiar with !repeat or !patience
[05:41] <bimberi> pcdoc911: yes - check here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[05:41] <roostishaw> bimberi, so im guessing that /etc/hosts should'nt have just localhost next to 127.0.0.1 ... so what am i missing?
[05:41] <ladydoor> pcdoc911: i think there's a possibility of netbooting...just a sec...
[05:41] <ladydoor> !netboot
[05:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[05:41] <ladydoor> pcdoc911: ^^^
[05:41] <Beawolfe> bruenig sorry no I am not
[05:41] <bimberi> roostishaw: no it needs to have localhost there
[05:41] <bruenig> !repeat
[05:41] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:41] <bruenig> !patience
[05:41] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:42] <LeeJunFan> bimberi: you should have your hostname there too
[05:42] <bimberi> roostishaw: put your hosts on a pastebin
[05:42] <bimberi> LeeJunFan: mine has it on a separate line against 127.0.1.1
[05:42] <LeeJunFan> bimberi: then that's really all you need.
[05:42] <bimberi> LeeJunFan: yes i know, i'm the helper :)
[05:43] <jimmy_neutron> is it possible to have a different password for root (sudo) rather using my user account password?
[05:43] <Caitlin> Beowolf open the par2 file with smartpar.
[05:43] <LeeJunFan> bimberi: doh - ok, I'm going to bed.
[05:43] <mon^rch> yes jimmy
[05:44] <Caitlin> Sorry Beawolf use smartpar to open the par file.
[05:44] <pcdoc911> what ver is best 5.10 or this 6.06.1 lts?
[05:44] <roostishaw> bimberi, http://pastebin.ca/184681
[05:44] <bimberi> pcdoc911: 6.06.1 lts
[05:44] <ladydoor> !root > jimmy_neutron
[05:44] <pcdoc911> ok
[05:45] <Beawolfe> Caitlin I dont find smartpar at all
[05:45] <bimberi> roostishaw: ooh, that's pretty sparse :)  i'd add a line with "127.0.1.1 yourhostname" and make sure that /etc/hostname has the same hostname in it
[05:45] <Caitlin> Beawolf: JUST A SEC
[05:45] <Caitlin> Sorry didn't mean caps
[05:46] <cliffd> can someone take pity one me and explain how I turn on php syntax/coloring in vim?
[05:46] <roostishaw> bimberi, ok, will do
[05:46] <bruenig> !info parchive
[05:46] <ubotu> parchive: Use PAR files to reconstruct missing parts of multi-part archives. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1-4 (dapper), package size 30 kB, installed size 108 kB
[05:46] <bruenig> !info par2
[05:46] <ubotu> par2: Parity Archive Volume Set, for checking and repair of files. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.4-6 (dapper), package size 116 kB, installed size 368 kB
[05:46] <pcdoc911> ok y only 1 cd
[05:46] <pcdoc911> other distros were either dvd's or multi cd's
[05:46] <roostishaw> bimberi, brb
[05:46] <bimberi> roostishaw: let me know how you go - i'm only 98.3% sure :)
[05:46] <amicrawle> my card is a nvidia 9800 fx  512
[05:47] <amicrawle> how do i install the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com
[05:47] <bimberi> !nvidia
[05:47] <amicrawle> i can't get  root premission
[05:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:47] <diesel> How do I startup vino server
[05:47] <amicrawle> i don't want the ubuntu driver
[05:47] <Caitlin> Beawolf try here:   http://parchive.sourceforge.net/
[05:47] <bimberi> diesel: System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop
[05:47] <amicrawle> i want it from nvidia
[05:48] <amicrawle> i can't init to 3
[05:48] <Dr_willis> i saw a wiki page discussing that amicrawle  - good luck.
[05:48] <amicrawle> with out su
[05:48] <Lilandra> hi
[05:48] <bimberi> amicrawle: sudo -i  (with your password) ?
[05:48] <qazqaz70> can i use two language ?
[05:48] <Dr_willis> amicrawle,  why do you need to go to init 3?
[05:49] <diesel> bimberi: nice.  Anyway to run the Remote Desktop window through command-liine
[05:49] <amicrawle> becuse nvidia need to be set at inti 3 then back to 5
[05:49] <qazqaz70> can i use two language same time ?
[05:49] <diesel> bimberi: right now, I am ssh with X forwarding and don't want to load the computers entire gnome-session
[05:50] <bimberi> diesel: vino-preferences
[05:50] <dainanaki> can anyone give me a hand with some troubleshooting for some monitor issues?
[05:51] <amicrawle> "/sbin/init: /sbin/init: cannot execute binary file"
[05:51] <Caitlin> dainanaki, I can try, what's the trouble?
[05:51] <Beawolfe> Caitlin I already have the par2 proggie installed...........when I try and do it in the command line it says there is no par file present and I try and do it in the GUI and it says it cant display the file
[05:52] <Caitlin> Beawolfe I you sure the file is intact?
[05:52] <boris55> did edgy fit beta yet?
[05:52] <foo> Anyone in here located in the Los Angeles area (specifically Pasadena) and interested in giving a talk at our local LUG that meets at CalTech? We're looking for a speaker. Thanks :)
[05:53] <Caitlin> Beawolf and from the command line do you include the path to the file if necessary?
[05:53] <amicrawle> i'm from the lugod
[05:53] <dainanaki> Caitlen, well I've compiled and installed the latest nvidia drivers, and I've changed my xorg.conf to reflect the changes, but I can't get my monitor to change to any resolution or refresh rate besides 800x600 at 50 Hz
[05:53] <Beawolfe> Caitlin it is from the synaptic package manager in the new dapper distro I just d/l 3 days ago
[05:53] <mon^rch> edgy looks like its going to be nice
 i had the same problem
[05:54] <Caitlin> Beawolf I mean the par2 file.
[05:54] <Beawolfe> Caitlin the par2 is in the home directory
[05:54] <Caitlin> dainanaki, Just a sec
[05:54] <dainanaki> amicrawle, how did you fix that?
[05:54] <amicrawle> lol reformat
[05:54] <amicrawle> it would not let me goto any res
[05:54] <amicrawle> besides 640x480
[05:55] <joely_> o
[05:55] <weex> any recommendations on a backup system for this laptop of mine? I looked in synaptic but there are many choices
[05:55] <amicrawle> diskdar weex
[05:55] <tim> hi, I am trying to install EasyUbuntu but I can't find it on repositories...
[05:56] <Flannel> tim: it's not in the repositories
[05:56] <weex> diskdar is the way to go amicrawle?
[05:56] <vik> is there any useful software that indexes files (and possibly their contents) on removable media (CDs and DVDs) ?
[05:56] <amicrawle> yes
[05:56] <amicrawle> gui
[05:56] <tim> Flannel, thanks.
[05:56] <Caitlin> dainanaki, Have you tried to install the drivers with easybuntu?
[05:56] <mon^rch> easyubuntu is in the edgy repos...
[05:56] <weex> amicrawle: so that's DAR in synaptic? don't see diskdar here...
[05:57] <Caitlin> Beawolf is it in your home directory or home/user directory and does sudo make any difference?
[05:57] <roostishaw> TO THE USER THAT HELPED ME:  i forgot your username, but i got my hosts file fixed, thank you!
[05:57] <dainanaki> Caitlin, no, I wanted the latest so I could get compiz without xgl or aiglx
[05:57] <Caitlin> Easybuntu also works with Dapper
[05:58] <Caitlin> dainanaki, , There are testing binaries you could try
[05:58] <dainanaki> Caitlin, I know, but I needed the 9xxx version binaries, which is what I'm trying to get working
[05:58] <Beawolfe> Caitlin it is in my home directory
[05:58] <amicrawle> hubackup
[05:58] <amicrawle> sorry
[05:58] <Caitlin> dainanaki, I'm sorry. I think that I can not be of assistance. I tried.
[05:59] <dainanaki> Thanks Caitlin
[05:59] <amicrawle> kdar
[05:59] <amicrawle> is all so good gui
[05:59] <Caitlin> Beawolf: Try to put it in your home/user directory and sudo the command from the shell
[05:59] <dainanaki> amicrawle, did you say how I might fix my resolution?
[05:59] <diesel> bimberi: Do you know why there would be no port listening for vino, even though all options to allow remote desktop are on in vino-preferences?
[06:00] <Caitlin> Beawolf: Tell me what happens
[06:00] <qazqaz70> can i use two language same time ?
[06:01] <bimberi> diesel: hm, it should be on 5900
[06:01] <weex> thanks amicrawle
[06:01] <qazqaz70> can i use two language same time ?
[06:02] <qazqaz70> please help
[06:02] <dainanaki> can anyone give me a hand with some troubleshooting for some monitor issues?
[06:04] <Beawolfe> Caitlin the first time I tried sudo it asked me for a password........then said there wasn't enough arguments...........the second time it worked fine
[06:04] <Caitlin> Beawolf: So it works for you now?
[06:05] <Loren> should I install x86_64 or x86 Ubuntu?
[06:05] <diesel> bimberi: yeah, that's what I would expect as well
[06:05] <Caitlin> Beawolf: Sudo is the superuser command which is why it asked you for a password.
[06:05] <weex> sorry couldn't display all the contents of  <--- i'm getting this message when i try to connect to some windows shares i've used many times
[06:05] <Beawolfe> Caitlin the command line works with sudo
[06:06] <Beawolfe> Caitlin can I get it to work in the GUI?
[06:06] <Caitlin> Beawolf: Now there has to be a way to execute the gui command as a superuser.
[06:06] <ardchoille> gksudo
[06:06] <ardchoille> gksudo gedit  <-- try that
[06:07] <bl4cktone> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25042/  Can anyone tell me why when I leave my computer alone it gets kicked to the login screen?  here is todays messages log
[06:07] <Caitlin> There you go Beawolf. Thank you.
[06:07] <qazqaz70> please i want help
[06:07] <eBs|Jack> hey guys i got my usb stick to boot the alternate install disk but i have problems mounting it as a cdrom drive
[06:07] <qazqaz70> can i use two language same time ?
[06:07] <ardchoille> gksudo is actually for gui apps, sudo is for command line stuff
[06:07] <Caitlin> Thank you ard.
[06:07] <eBs|Jack> any help?
[06:08] <ardchoille> Caitlin: You're welcome :)
[06:08] <Caitlin> Beawolf: Try that.... See if it works.
[06:09] <ardchoille> Beawolfe: you can also type gksuexec in a term and it will give you the choice of which app you want to launch as root user
[06:09] <Beawolfe> Caitlin try what??? the gksudo?
[06:09] <Caitlin> Beawolf read what ardchoille is typing.
[06:09] <ardchoille> Beawolfe: gksudo gedit
[06:10] <Caitlin> ardchoille, Beawolfe wants to open a par file in gui which needs su privledge
[06:10] <Caitlin> ardchoille, apparently
[06:10] <ardchoille> which app opens a par file?
[06:10] <Caitlin> Beawolf which app opens the par file?
[06:11] <ardchoille> it should be "gksudo <appname> <filename>
[06:11] <Beawolfe> Caitlin par2
[06:11] <bimberi> diesel: hm, did the process start? i get have one running /usr/lib/vino/vino-server (with lots of parameters)
[06:11] <ardchoille> Beawolfe: try: gksudo par2 filename
[06:11] <bimberi> s/get//
[06:11] <nick_> whers the ubuntu tut for compiz/xgl?
[06:11] <bimberi> !xgl
[06:11] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:12] <Caitlin> thanks again ardchoille I lost the gksudo commnd. totally spaced it
[06:12] <JacksLivr> ok, ran disk defrag 2 times. everything is compacted in the first 50% of the drive
[06:12] <ardchoille> Caitlin: It's easy to do
[06:12] <Beawolfe> archoille when I typed that in term it said authintacation rejected
[06:12] <JacksLivr> ready to boot up ubuntu
[06:12] <Caitlin> ardchoille, especially if you never use it. :)
[06:12] <ardchoille> Caitlin: True
[06:13] <ardchoille> Beawolfe: It does that for me too, but it always runs the app
[06:13] <qazqaz70> why nobody help me ?
[06:13] <JacksLivr> is there a good tutorial on turning a single partition xp computer into a dualboot ubuntu computer?
[06:14] <qazqaz70> please i want now how can i use two language same time ?
[06:14] <bimberi> !dualboot
[06:14] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[06:14] <Caitlin> Could you run an embedded user with a different language in Gnome?
[06:15] <qazqaz70> how ?
[06:15] <Beawolfe> ardchoille Like I said it will work in the command line with sudo...........but I should be able to get it to work in the GUI with just a click or something right?
[06:15] <Caitlin> I know you can in KDE but that question was more directed at the channel.
[06:15] <qazqaz70> i want like windows whe i want to change only i hold alt+shift bottom same time
[06:16] <wetduck> !samba
[06:16] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:16] <JacksLivr> bimberi, thanks
[06:16] <screechingcat> Beawolfe : try gksu
[06:16] <bimberi> JacksLivr: np :)
[06:16] <ardchoille> Beawolfe: I've not seen a gui app that won't work with gksudo or gksu
[06:16] <Caitlin> qazqaz70, I'm not sure you can do that.
[06:16] <Caitlin> qazqaz70, I'm not sure though
[06:16] <whurley> Hey all, when installing onto boxes supplied to us by Penguin Computing (dual opteron 248s 4GB ram 300GB hd) the amd 64 bit Ubuntu cd boots up fine but freezes right after the "io scheduler cfg registered" and right before where the kernel should be loaded into the ram disk. We're tried several boot options and other tricks and tips but nothing works. Any suggestions?
[06:17] <totall_6_7> !ntfs
[06:17] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:18] <Beawolfe> ardchoille sorry you lost me with that one
[06:18] <foureight84> how do i load pages that use flash 9?
[06:19] <nacer> you cant
[06:19] <nacer> :)
[06:19] <foureight84> awh lol
[06:19] <ardchoille> Beawolfe: using gksudo or gksu simply launches an app as if root user had launched it
[06:19] <screechingcat> foureight84 : you can if u run firefox under wine
[06:19] <foureight84> ahh
[06:19] <foureight84> but there's no way to do it in the native setting?
[06:19] <ardchoille> Beawolfe: thus, "gksudo gedit" launches gedit as if you were logged into the root account and launched gedit.
[06:19] <foureight84> i mean an alternative
[06:20] <screechingcat> adobe is stuck at flash 7 for linux
[06:20] <foureight84> bah
[06:20] <foureight84> thanks guys
[06:20] <screechingcat> u can try swf-player, but i heard it aint that great too
[06:20] <foureight84> what are you using?
[06:20] <screechingcat> flash 7
[06:20] <Caitlin> I thought Linux was stuck at flash 7 too. Kind of a bummer.
[06:20] <foureight84> ah i see
[06:21] <foureight84> yea, i can't get the music to load on myspace
[06:21] <foureight84> lol
[06:21] <screechingcat> there's a fix for that
[06:21] <foureight84> oh really?
[06:21] <screechingcat> myspace dosent require flash 9 it just wants it
[06:21] <Caitlin> foureight84, Have you put in restricted formats?
[06:22] <foureight84> what do you mean? i'm really n00b
[06:22] <screechingcat> and u can make it believe that u  have flash9
[06:22] <screechingcat> lemme look it up
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Those bums!
[06:22] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:22] <foureight84> thanks
[06:22] <bl4cktone_> Did anyone reply seems like my IRC client crapped out for a few mins
[06:22] <screechingcat> here u go - http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/08/14/flash-9-for-xubuntu/
[06:22] <Beawolfe> ardchoillle like I said I got the command line version to work....what I want now is to be able to get the par2 file to verify in the GUI instaed of the terminal
[06:23] <foureight84> thanks
[06:23] <ogami1972> hello all! my usb mouse has mysteriously quit working
[06:23] <screechingcat> ogami1972 : unplug it and plug it back in
[06:23] <Dr_willis> was the cat playing with it? and hurt it?
[06:24] <Geoffrey2> me, I just installed wine and then installed the Windows version of Firefox and Flash 9....it's not my preferred method, but it'll have to do until Adobe gets Flash 9 for Linux out
[06:24] <ogami1972> it shows up in lsusb, and that was working, but has quit
[06:24] <nacer> lol the hack for flash9
[06:24] <ogami1972> that being plug/unplug
[06:24] <ardchoille> Beawolfe: I'm afraid I'm of no help since I don't even know what a par2 file is :(
[06:24] <JuGhEaD__> I'm trying to figure out how to use the cp command
[06:24] <nacer> archangelpetro, same as rar file for binnews
[06:24] <Caitlin> ardchoille, Par2 is a usenet file container
[06:24] <Remy> JuGhEaD__ - man cp
[06:25] <JuGhEaD__> didn't work - I'm on dsl live cd
[06:25] <konfuzed> Geoffrey2, i had to do the same
[06:25] <ardchoille> JuGhEaD__: cd /path/file /path/destination
[06:25] <JuGhEaD__> well the other lappy is
[06:25] <Dr_willis> par2 is a rar parity check file I thought.
[06:25] <Remy> JuGhEaD__ - what about cp --help
[06:25] <[BTF] Chm0d> if I have installed the nvidia drivers shouldn't libGL.so be installed with that as well?  My quake2 wont use gl cuz it cannot find libGL.so
[06:25] <ardchoille> Caitlin: kinda like a .tar.gz file ?
[06:25] <JuGhEaD__> which do I put first, the source dir or the destination
[06:25] <james296> for some reason I cant start the Beagle service even though it shows up at system startup...
[06:25] <ardchoille> JuGhEaD__: source
[06:25] <screechingcat> source
[06:26] <Caitlin> ardchoille, more like a direction file, like  .conf kind of thing
[06:26] <Geoffrey2> konfuzed, it appears Adobe is actually working on getting Flash 9 out there, though it still looks like a 2007 realease date
[06:26] <Dr_willis> [BTF] Chm0d,  it may be looking in the wrong place for it.. quake2 is old.. You may want to track down some updated  unofficial variants of it.
[06:26] <ardchoille> Caitlin: ah, ok
[06:26] <nacer> ardchoille, nop you have 100mo of rar file + 100mo of par2 file for correct corrupted rar file
[06:26] <Remy> JuGhEaD__ http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?cp
[06:26] <james296> Got a SIGSEGV while executing native code. This usually indicates
[06:26] <james296> a fatal error in the mono runtime or one of the native libraries
[06:26] <james296> used by your application.
[06:26] <james296> what does that mean?
[06:26] <nacer> 600 mo of rar file
[06:26] <Dr_willis> yea - par files seem a littel over kill at times.
[06:26] <Dr_willis> but they do come in handy.
[06:27] <JacksLivr> this would happen to me... the x server wont start on the live cd
[06:27] <screechingcat> Geoffrey2 : check the penguin.swf blog for more details. there's a complicated hack out there, with which u can install flash 9 on your linux systems right now
[06:27] <konfuzed> maybe vlc could be made to play flash
[06:27] <[BTF] Chm0d> thx willis
[06:27] <james296> well?
[06:27] <screechingcat> konfuzed : so far it dosent
[06:27] <[BTF] Chm0d> im thinking i need to creaete a symlink or some sort but dont know where hehe
[06:27] <foureight84> hmm the myspace music player still doesn't work
[06:27] <screechingcat> foureight84 : even after the hack ?
[06:27] <ithiel> hello all
[06:27] <foureight84> yea
[06:28] <Caitlin> foureight84, could try !restrictedformats
[06:28] <Dr_willis> [BTF] Chm0d,  Yea.. i recall simile rissues ages ago.. but honestly the Q2 code is gpl'ed now - so theres some improved engines out for it.. you just need the q2 data files.
[06:28] <screechingcat> foureight84 : wine is the only other option
[06:28] <ithiel> does anyone know how compatible Ubuntu is with MacBook Pro hardware?
[06:28] <foureight84> okay i'll do that and then use wine if all else fails
[06:28] <foureight84> thank you for the help
[06:29] <Caitlin> :)
[06:29] <screechingcat> no prob
[06:29] <Geoffrey2> screechingcat, what's the address for that blog?
[06:29] <deedubb> Hello. I came from gentoo to ubuntu, and I like it, I really do, but the startup script outputs are just ugly on my server, anyone know if theres a patch/script etc that I can run to clean them other then just hidding all messages?
[06:30] <screechingcat> Geoffrey2 : http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/
[06:30] <Dr_willis> deedubb,  i perfer to put them all in verbose mode. :P no framebuffer, no fancy bootsplash.. I want Pure Text Baby!
[06:30] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: vga=791 ?
[06:30] <screechingcat> deedubb : just wait for edgy eft, much better bootsplash there
[06:30] <ardchoille> :)
[06:31] <deedubb> Dr_willis, I do too but things like the tty font setting or whatever it is is just ugly
[06:31] <Dr_willis> im a sick little puppy!
[06:31] <deedubb> Dr_willis, I disagree, on a server you want it to be verbose
[06:31] <Dr_willis> Never noticed the font getting changed from the kernel defaults
[06:31] <Dr_willis> Bah! my server dont even have a monitor..
[06:31] <UKMatt> is there a feature in UB that allows you to rename multiple items at once?
[06:32] <deedubb> you want it to tell you everything so when one day it doesn't work you can say "wow, it stopped after ...." not "what is this garbage? what does this line refer to? why is it indented?"
[06:32] <nick_> how do i check if xgl is installed properly before i move to compiz
[06:32] <Dr_willis> i wonder what would happen if i removed the video card.
[06:32] <konfuzed> hey is there some way i can change the desktop-calendar to a Mayan Calendar ?
[06:32] <eBs|Jack> so no one knows anything about how to make the usbstick install work?
[06:32] <psylocybe> any wine user?
[06:32] <konfuzed> or Zolkin fr linux
[06:32] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: That's intriguing
[06:32] <screechingcat> psylocybe : yeah ?
[06:33] <JacksLivr> the first time i booted the cd, it came up with a desktop. now everytime, X fails to start
[06:33] <Dr_willis> eBs|Jack,  that 'ubuntu hacks' book had a chapter on getting a usb hard drive working.. and it took some effort.
[06:33] <deedubb> most BIOSs dont boot without a video card
[06:33] <psylocybe> im traying to run war3 but im getting some problmes
[06:33] <psylocybe> i need to run the winecfg before try to run war3?
[06:33] <Dr_willis> deedubb,  yea.. trying to quiet down the fileserver.. the video card fan is making a racket.
[06:33] <deedubb> good luck; where can I file an enhancement level bug?
[06:33] <psylocybe> screechingcat, ?
[06:34] <screechingcat> psylocybe : sorry, i use wine but not for gaming. why dont u try the ubuntu-games forum ?
[06:34] <psylocybe> can u pass me th elink?
[06:34] <screechingcat> hold on
[06:35] <screechingcat> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=93
[06:35] <Beawolfe> Caitlin Thanx a bunch for atleast getting me to a point where I can get something to work!
[06:35] <Caitlin> Beawolfe: Sorry I couldn't be more help.
[06:36] <JuGhEaD__> the cp command is not working for a directory
[06:36] <JuGhEaD__> how do you copy a directory ?
[06:36] <screechingcat> do it thru GUI
[06:36] <JuGhEaD__> GUI not loading that's why Im trying to figure out command line
[06:36] <flyphisher> -R
[06:36] <JuGhEaD__> the hdd and usb drive are mounted, all i need to figure out  is the syntax
[06:36] <Beawolfe> Caitlin atleast I can get the command line to work now...............I guess I got to spoiled with Windoze point and click
[06:37] <Dr_willis> JuGhEaD__,  i cheat and install and use 'mc' :)
[06:37] <HeavyThinker> JuGhEaD__: cp -r (-r for recursive)
[06:37] <Caitlin> Beawolf: Yeah Win does make it seem easier eh?
[06:37] <JuGhEaD__> the source is /mnt/hda1/pictures and the destination is /mnt/sda1   --
[06:37] <Dr_willis> im still annoyed that mc dont come installed by default
[06:37] <lupine_85> cp -a to keep everything inside the directory exactly as it is right now
[06:38] <JuGhEaD__> yeah I don't have internets on this thing either
[06:38] <usli> need help
[06:38] <screechingcat> usli : with what ?
[06:38] <usli> my grub menu dont have windows option
[06:39] <[BTF] Chm0d> hey guys whats the cmd to search for a file?
[06:39] <Geoffrey2> screechingcat, now, the hack for Flash 9, is that a response to one of the posts?
[06:39] <usli> how to get it to the grub menu?
[06:39] <screechingcat> no. its one of the posts made by the dev
[06:39] <Beawolfe> Caitlin yeah it does...but I am trying to get away from windoze...........last virus took both of my machines down in 12 hours time  and all I could do was format and reload from scratch.......lost alot because of it
[06:39] <screechingcat> usli : one sec
[06:39] <usli> thanks
[06:39] <screechingcat> usli : do u kno one which partiotn your windows is installed ?
[06:40] <ogami1972> ok- still no luck with usb mouse- it turns on, and shows up in lsusb, and xorg.conf checks out against an old backup. any ideas
[06:40] <usli> i think hda2
[06:40] <usli>  ..          /dev/hda2   *        1794        7117    42765030    7  HPFS/NTFS
[06:40] <Caitlin> Beawolf: Thats part of why I hate Win. Always have. Linux was the best move I ever made.
[06:40] <screechingcat> now do sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:40] <usli> ok
[06:41] <usli> then?
[06:41] <jimmy_neutron> how can i edit the welcome msg once i login via ssh?
[06:41] <screechingcat> usli : hold on
[06:41] <usli> hehe
[06:41] <usli> thanks
[06:41] <usli> i;ll wait
[06:41] <Beawolfe> Caitlin if I can get all of these issues I am comming across solved I will do the same with one machine
[06:42] <Caitlin> Beawolf: What are the other issues? Maybe I can help a little
[06:42] <Beawolfe> Caitlin my next thing to tackle is the samba deamon so I can work in an NTFS partion from dapper
[06:43] <Beawolfe> Caitlin the 4 gig cap with fat32 is one issue
[06:43] <screechingcat> usli : ok here's the windows part of my grub menu. try to replicate it but replace it with your settings wherever applicable
[06:43] <jimmy_neutron> is there a file where i can edit the welcome message once u login via ssh?
[06:43] <usli> ok..
[06:43] <screechingcat> usli : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25046/plain/
[06:43] <Caitlin> Beawolf: NTFS should mount under /media/hd?
[06:44] <screechingcat> Beawolfe : just use the ntfs3g driver to mount and read/write ntfs partiiotins
[06:44] <Beawolfe> Caitlin it will mount but I cant write to it sofar only browse the file tree
[06:44] <Caitlin> Beawolf did you put in the ntfs tools?
[06:45] <usli> hd0,0 ?
[06:45] <usli> isnt it for ubuntu?
[06:45] <Beawolfe> Caitlin I guess not ..what tools do you speak of?
[06:45] <Caitlin> I write data to NTFS type partitions...... Like on my USB Hd.
[06:45] <screechingcat> usli : not if u installed windows first. but its different for everyone
[06:45] <usli> but
[06:45] <usli> i installed ubuntu first
[06:45] <Caitlin> I think in synptic there are ntfs tools. Not entirely sure.
[06:45] <usli> then reinstall my windows
[06:45] <flyphisher> jimmy_neutron: try /etc/motd
[06:46] <totall_6_7> Thank you ubotu the link that bot gave worked like a charm, i can now view my files i had stuck on the ntfs drives, copy them over to the linux drives and format those drives to linux format
[06:46] <totall_6_7> thank you again
[06:46] <screechingcat> usli : thats y ubuntu is your first partition.
[06:46] <jimmy_neutron> thank you flyphisher.
[06:46] <flyphisher> np
[06:46] <usli> oh..
[06:46] <Beawolfe> Caitlin I just found them and am installing now
[06:47] <usli> then what should i put it
[06:47] <usli> hd0,1 ?
[06:47] <screechingcat> usli : one second
[06:47] <Caitlin> Beawolf: That may enable you to write to the partition. You may have to be su as well, but lets see what happens.
[06:48] <Beawolfe> Caitlin it wont let me do it in the GUI I just tried
[06:48] <usli> k...
[06:49] <Caitlin> Beawolf: Like I said you might have to be su. I don't use su in GUI, so I can't tell you how to do that.
[06:50] <Caitlin> Beawolf: NOT RECOMMENDED: I use root if I need to do file ops, but that is if you know what you are doing only.
[06:50] <screechingcat> usli : i cant find anything on the forums. try hd0,1 and see what happens.
[06:50] <usli> ok..
[06:50] <screechingcat> Beawolfe : you can read/write ntfs partitions with su with the new ntfs3g driver for linux
[06:51] <screechingcat> Beawolfe : sorry that was without su. not with it
[06:51] <Caitlin> New driver? Hmmmm......
[06:51] <Asc> screechingcat: out of curiosity, is that method safe?
[06:51] <Beawolfe> screechingcat I already have an NTFS partion I just cant write to is all only browse the files
[06:52] <screechingcat> Beawolfe : yes i get it and u can do that with this driver
[06:52] <solomakhin> is it safe to upgrade to edgy?
[06:52] <screechingcat> Asc : its worked perfectly for me.
[06:52] <Beawolfe> screechingcat where do I get the driver then
[06:52] <Caitlin> Must be prettMust be a pretty new driver
[06:52] <lupine_85> here also - more or less
[06:52] <screechingcat> Asc : but the author still puts out a word of caution since its beta
[06:52] <lupine_85> the grub package seemed a bit b0rken though
[06:52] <Asc> screechingcat: Okay.  The previous ntfs write drivers I've heard about have been... shaky.
[06:53] <screechingcat> BEawolfe : one sec
[06:53] <Asc> screechingcat: 'course, I've already made my windows partition fat32 :p
[06:53] <screechingcat> here's a guide on the forums - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009&highlight=ntfs+easy+method
[06:54] <link_36p> Hey whats a good manufacturer for a laptop that has good linux/ubuntu compatibility?
[06:54] <screechingcat> link_36p : acer
[06:54] <solomakhin> link_36p: lenovo
[06:55] <flyphisher> link_36p:  I would agree with solomakhin
[06:55] <screechingcat> link_36p : if u got money its lenovo for u
[06:56] <link_36p> Hmm they seem little more pricey than others, anywhere i could get a barebones?
[06:56] <link_36p> Is there a better place to buy than newegg?
[06:56] <screechingcat> link_36p : acer bundles linux instead of winxp on some of thier laptops
[06:56] <joe__> tu+1
[06:57] <JacksLivr> question about partitions. there was a 47mb fat 16 and a 55gb ntfs... i added the swap and then i couldnt add any more primarys. i added an extended and put a logical 10gb ext3 for ubuntu install and another 40gb fat32 for common files. is that right?
[06:58] <Beawolfe> screechingcat Okay Thanx got the page marked for reading and research
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> link_36p: Thinkpads.  (Lenovo)
[06:58] <screechingcat> Beawolfe : its just a two minute process really
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> link_36p: Also, system76 is gaining reputation, but I haven't tried one myself.
[06:58] <Asc> There are a few companies that make very cheap linux systems... only one I've got bookmarked only does desktops, but with a little searching you might be able to turn something up
[06:58] <Beawolfe> okay
[06:59] <JacksLivr> is that right? im scared to death to hit enter
[06:59] <Beawolfe> Thaqnx all for the help tonight
[06:59] <baseline> hi
[07:00] <tonyyarusso> JacksLivr: It should work anyway.  "Right" is relative, depending on your needs.  I don't actually know if it matters, but I like to have my / on a primary partition, so if I were to do it, I'd switch the swap and root install.
[07:00] <screechingcat> Beawolfe : that will 150$ please
[07:01] <darkanyel> hi
[07:01] <JacksLivr> tonyyarusso: make the 10GB primary and put swap and fat32 in extended?
[07:01] <THX-1138> ntfs-3g is still in beta. COMMON PROBLEM :* File modification times aren't always updated. seems like the least scarey bug. - there are a bunch of 'em
[07:01] <Asc> link_36p: what kind of price are you looking for?
[07:01] <tonyyarusso> JacksLivr: Yeah.
[07:01] <joe__> yea, so i still can't get sound to work in my edgy partition (i386 kernel), while it works in my dapper partition (amd64-k8-smp kernel)
[07:02] <darkanyel> anyone know how to install a microphone emic-111
[07:02] <usli> screechingcat: it works
[07:02] <usli> thanks for your help man
[07:02] <THX-1138> I wonder if the patent on ntfs structure really profits anyone....
[07:02] <screechingcat> usli : no problem
[07:03] <Caitlin> THX-1138, ms maybe
[07:03] <JacksLivr> tonyyarusso: ok, will it allow me to specify mount points later? i dont see them options yet
[07:03] <RedGhost> Well ntfs is a pretty good file system so if they want to be assholes about who can use and for what
[07:03] <screechingcat> THX-1138 : who cares if they profit, as long as they can keep it closed source, they are keeping it non-open source and thats a strategic blow
[07:04] <AbortD> how do i reinstall kde i got it through apt get
[07:04] <tonyyarusso> JacksLivr: They should be there now, but even if they're not, the only mount point you _need_ to specify now is /, everything else can be edited later, although it's easier now and should be there.
[07:04] <screechingcat> AbortD : sudo aptitude reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[07:04] <AbortD> do i need to do it from inside of gnome screechingcat ?
[07:05] <screechingcat> AbortD : you can do it from inside of any working terminal in ubuntu
[07:05] <darkanyel> anyone know how to install a microphone emic-111?? plz!
[07:05] <screechingcat> AbortD : wait
[07:05] <AbortD> well im logged into kde right now
[07:05] <JacksLivr> tonyyarusso: no, no place to specify mount points
[07:05] <|michael|> hello all
[07:05] <screechingcat> AbortD : you want to Reinstall it  ????
[07:05] <AbortD> yes
[07:06] <screechingcat> AbortD : then its best to do it from Gnome
[07:06] <AbortD> k
[07:06] <JacksLivr> this is the most active channel i have ever seen at this time.
[07:06] <AbortD> same command though?
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> JacksLivr: All right, let's try to find them.  Hopefully I remember these screens.  What do you see now?
[07:06] <screechingcat> AbortD : yeah
 i hit enter.... its applying pening opperations
[07:06] <|michael|> I am try to add a program to my menu list and have not had any success. what am I doing wrong.
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> JacksLivr: Maybe it does need to apply them before setting that.  Would make sense I suppose.  We'll see.
[07:08] <JacksLivr> tonyyarusso: ok, now it goes ther
[07:08] <tonyyarusso> JacksLivr: Now it gives you the mount point option you mean?
[07:08] <JacksLivr> tonyyarusso: my windows partition is called /media/sda2 is that ok?
[07:08] <JacksLivr> yes
[07:08] <AbortD> its saying kubuntu desktop is not installed
[07:08] <|michael|> does anyone know how to add a program to the drop down menu?
[07:09] <rdemanow> any PHP/MySQL gurus on?  I have PHP and MySQL installed, PHPMyAdmin lets me create a database, but when I try to write a script that accesses the database I get the error Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysqli_connect() in /var/www/urllist/index.php on line 19
[07:09] <tonyyarusso> JacksLivr: Sweet deal.  And yes, you can have it as whatever you want, theoretically.
[07:09] <tonyyarusso> (Well, not /usr/bin or something reserved like that, but /media/googleshmort would be fine)
[07:10] <cadu> hello! guys! i'm willing to give a ubuntu a try (former debian user) but i need some help: first -> ubuntu.com boasts something like packages.debian.org? is ubuntu ok about developing (like, everything -dev and IDEs is there?)...think i gotta sick of those extremely outdated packages :)
[07:10] <AbortD> !kde
[07:10] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[07:10] <Graig> many programs are able to pick up icons from a theme pack, but firefox is not.  why not? it just always has that ugly blue icon.
[07:10] <JacksLivr> tonyyarusso: i appreciate your time tonight... my fat32 is not showing up in this emn. its the only one that isnt is thatok?
[07:11] <rdemanow> |michael|: Applications -> Accessories -> Alacarte menu Editor
[07:11] <AbortD> yeah its saying its not there
[07:11] <unfknblvbl> you can install 3 ubuntu themes into firefox
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> JacksLivr: It's not showing in the list at all?
[07:11] <JacksLivr> no
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> Or just not giving the set point option?
[07:11] <JacksLivr> i guess i can ad it later?
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> Yeah, you can.
[07:11] <JacksLivr> EITHER
[07:11] <JacksLivr> sorry on the caps
[07:12] <rdemanow> !mysql
[07:12] <ubotu> offically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> JacksLivr: It might be worth backing up a step and trying adding it again, just for kicks, but it's not the complete end of the world otherwise, just addtional hassle.
[07:12] <JacksLivr> oh crap. its installing now
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> Ah well.
[07:13] <JacksLivr> and it just told me that the fat16 that was already on there had errors. i didnt think it was gonna pay attention to the stuff i was not modifying
[07:14] <darkanyel> anyone know how to install a microphone emic-111?? plz!
[07:14] <tonyyarusso> Master key to having a successful install: Don't get too stressed out.  After all, your worst case scenario is that you do it again.  Small loss compared to getting too frustrated and (in extreme cases) breaking the comp permanently.
[07:14] <|michael|> when an application does not auto install to the menu what do I do?
[07:14] <JacksLivr> i am stressed
[07:14] <screechingcat> michael : find the path of the application and add it thru alacarte
[07:14] <HeavyThinker> |michael|: you can File - New Entry in alacarte i think
[07:14] <tonyyarusso> JacksLivr: Do you know what that other one was anyway?  Seemed odd to have such a small partition.
[07:14] <JacksLivr> i have no idea
[07:15] <JacksLivr> company issued laptop
[07:15] <brass-srvr> irc.videolan.org
[07:15] <|michael|> to the bin file ?
[07:15] <JacksLivr> if this poops i'll be in trouble
[07:15] <brass-srvr> #videolan
[07:16] <screechingcat> JacksLivr : come on, it aint that bad. ubuntu always "just works" in the end
[07:16] <tonyyarusso> JacksLivr: Would you have proper backups for the Windows stuff if you totally fried it?  (Not saying you're doing so, just checking)
[07:17] <jimmy_neutron> i followed the guide on how to mnt ntfs paritions. but i can mount it b/c i get the error: ntfs journal is unclean
[07:17] <jimmy_neutron> any ideas?
[07:17] <JacksLivr> tonyyarusso: i do have all my data backed up
[07:17] <tonyyarusso> JacksLivr: There you go, then you won't be in trouble :)
[07:17] <JacksLivr> id have to get the computer reimaged the company way, but all my stuff is backed up
[07:18] <JacksLivr> the guy who images them is a friend of mine. he'd prolly keep a secret
[07:18] <ithiel> "SportChick" in a Linux distribution channel? Anyone see the irony of an athletically oriented female name present in a Linux channel?
[07:18] <AbortD> how do i uninstall kde?
[07:18] <ithiel> not being chauvinistic, just...observant.
[07:18] <ArrenLex> "SportChick" is a guy posing as a girl to get other guys to help him more quickly.
[07:18] <SportChick> ithiel: :p
[07:18] <d42> I am able to turn on visual beep, but not able to turn on audio beep. How do I enable the audio beep?
[07:19] <screechingcat> AbortD : sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[07:19] <jimmy_neutron> i followed the guide on how to mnt ntfs paritions. but i can mount it b/c i get the error: ntfs journal is unclean. any ideas
[07:19] <hotbabe892> Hi boys ;)
[07:19] <ithiel> ArrenLex observance countered with inference.
[07:19] <SportChick> clearly you haven't been paying attention
[07:19] <ithiel> nice.
[07:19] <AbortD> Package kubuntu-desktop is not installed, so not removed
[07:19] <AbortD> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[07:19] <ithiel> LOL
[07:19] <AbortD> screechingcat,
[07:19] <ithiel> SportChick I just got her.e
[07:19] <screechingcat> AbortD : so its not there.
[07:19] <ithiel> hmm.
[07:19] <AbortD> it is though .....
[07:19] <hotbabe892> One of you manly guys want to help little 'ol me with some Ubuntu? ;);)
[07:19] <ithiel> typo.
[07:20] <ithiel> hotbabe892 *laughs* arren...
[07:20] <|michael|> does ubuntu support nfs?
[07:20] <AbortD> i can logout of gnome and login to kde
[07:20] <fdoving> screechingcat: kubuntu-desktop is just for installing, it only depends on the packages KDE needs, they all doens't depend on kubuntu-desktop the other way around.
[07:20] <AbortD> right now
[07:20] <fdoving> AbortD: sudo apt-get --purge remove libartsc0
[07:20] <JacksLivr> tonyyarusso: what i wanna try... when this all working i wanna put vmware on the ubuntu install and create a virtual machine that uses the windows partition. then i can fire it up whenever i need to do anuything in windows and suspend it when i dont need it.
[07:20] <screechingcat> fdoving : but if u did it with aptitude u can remove everything with that one command
[07:21] <Kyynara> can't you just install gnome (if that's what you want), and get rid of kde in that way?
[07:21] <screechingcat> fdoving : thats what i did
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> JacksLivr: That's a sweet idea, but as soon as you get into that you'll have to find someone else for help ;)
[07:21] <fdoving> screechingcat: that is correct, if you installed it with aptitude, aptitude keeps track of the dependencies.
[07:21] <screechingcat> Kyynara : gnome and kde can exist side by side
[07:21] <AbortD> and then i will be able to reinstall it fdoving ?
[07:21] <JacksLivr> lol
[07:21] <|michael|> how do you handle two window managers  (kde and gnome) on the same machine
[07:21] <fdoving> AbortD: yes,later if you want, you can use 'sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop'
[07:21] <JacksLivr> im not gonna keep you on the hook much longer ;-)
[07:21] <hotbabe892> michael: you choose which to boot at the start of the X session or if you log out.
[07:22] <Madpilot> |michael|, you only use one at a time - or you do the sensible thing, delete KDE, and keep the better of the two ;)
[07:22] <|michael|> can you select at the login screen?
[07:22] <unfknblvbl> Madpilot: i concur
[07:22] <AbortD> KDE is better
[07:22] <screechingcat> |michael| : yes
[07:22] <hotbabe892> By "delete KDE" Madpilot means, of course "uninstall Gnome". Otherwise, he is right.
[07:22] <AbortD> i broke it though
[07:22] <Madpilot> |michael|, yes, that's when you choose
[07:22] <screechingcat> AbortD : kde is too slow
[07:22] <AbortD> slow?
[07:22] <AbortD> hm
[07:22] <AbortD> i havent really noticed
[07:23] <hotbabe892> It's not slow for me.
[07:23] <Madpilot> Ahem. Folks, I did NOT mean to kick off a WM/DE War - take it to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to have one!
[07:23] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guys. is office 2003 supported by wine?
[07:23] <|michael|> I like KDE better too.  but how stable is it on ubuntu or do I install Kubuntu?
[07:23] <fdoving> AbortD: there is a channel for kubuntu support/help - #kubuntu
[07:23] <screechingcat> PunjabiFLOYDIAN : no
[07:23] <hotbabe892> Punjabi: go to www.winehq.com and use the "app database" for questions about which applications wine supports.
[07:23] <screechingcat> PunjabiFLOYDIAN : Crossover office supports it though
[07:23] <unfknblvbl> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: open office does the job just fine
[07:23] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> thanks hotbabe.
[07:23] <hotbabe892> You're welcome, cute.
[07:23] <foureight84> Caitlin, how do i get network-manager to remember my wep password so i don't have to enter it everytime on startup?
[07:24] <ithiel> hotbabe892 quit it. :|
[07:24] <jpiccolo_> anyone know why quake 4 wont use the rez i set it at?
 since you say, i cant configure spellcheck in Open Office
[07:24] <screechingcat> hotbabe892 : this is wierd
[07:24] <ithiel> lol
[07:24] <AbortD> i still wish i could get my sound previews to work :P
[07:24] <Caitlin> foureight84, Try putting it into the network settings under system
[07:24] <foureight84> thanks
[07:24] <ltnelson89> i need help getting my bluetooth dongle to recognize my microsoft keyboard and mouse before i log in... any suggestions?
[07:24] <Caitlin> :)
[07:25] <unfknblvbl> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: i never use spell check
[07:25] <ArrenLex> Gaim spellchecks for me, but I don't really need it.
[07:25] <jpiccolo_> i have logitech bluetooh and it works at startup
[07:25] <foureight84> Caitlin, ah that won't work. i'm not using network-admin. i'm using network-manager-gnome
[07:25] <unfknblvbl> but i'm sure you just need ot install or selct a dictionary
[07:25] <ArrenLex> And it just told me 'spellcheck' was spelt wrong. Ah, the irony.
[07:26] <foureight84> there's an authentication window that pops up every time on bootup. slows everything down
[07:26] <ArrenLex> Punjabi: what problems are you having with spellcheck?
[07:26] <jpiccolo_> ltnelson89, does you bluetooth double type letters?
[07:26] <Caitlin> foureight84, So you don't have a network setting?
[07:26] <ltnelson89> no
[07:26] <screechingcat> PunjabiFLOYDIAN : just get a better dictionary
[07:26] <Caitlin> foureight84, where it lists your devices?
[07:26] <foureight84> i have it
[07:26] <jpiccolo_> ltnelson89, mine does all the damn time, annoying when coding
[07:26] <foureight84> but my eth1, wireless is disabled
[07:27] <Caitlin> foureight84, You should enable it
[07:27] <foureight84> hmm okay
[07:27] <Caitlin> foureight84, There shoud be a spot in there for entering your key and then save it
[07:28] <foureight84> thanks
[07:28] <ltnelson89> ive been trying to figure this out for a week now... and ive gone through every tutorial in the book.... and it still wont connect to my devices during boot...
[07:28] <Caitlin> foureight84, Welcome
[07:30] <ltnelson89> ?? 'ello? anybody here?
[07:31] <ArrenLex> Lots of people are here. What do you need?
[07:31] <unfknblvbl> a new computer
[07:31] <screechingcat> 0 ops, 828 total
[07:31] <unfknblvbl> and a nice widescreen
[07:31] <screechingcat> unfknblvbl : granted. Next ?
[07:31] <ltnelson89> lol, someone with experience dealing with bluetooth keyboards at boot
[07:32] <unfknblvbl> screechingcat: cheers
[07:32] <screechingcat> ;)
[07:32] <unfknblvbl> ETA >
[07:32] <unfknblvbl> ?
[07:32] <screechingcat> eternity
[07:32] <unfknblvbl> b4st4rd
[07:32] <screechingcat> its microsft made
[07:33] <dw_> i've the following (big) problem. I have a hp pavilion dv9043ea and have a problem with any pcmcia card. the problem is, that apparently no pcmcia bridge is installed as this is the error message i get, when i try to start /etc/init.d/pcmciautils. question: what can i do, to install such a pcmcia bridge?
[07:33] <unfknblvbl> >.<
[07:33] <d42> "Enable system beep" is selected in System Preferences Sound gnome menu. But no beep! Clicking on button beside "System Sounds" item produces a beep. How do I enable the System Beep?
[07:33] <screechingcat> so you'll ahev to wait a while
[07:33] <sivik> !pcmcia
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcmcia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:34] <jimmy_neutron> can some help me?
[07:34] <jimmy_neutron> i followed the guide on how to mnt ntfs paritions. but i can mount it b/c i get the error: ntfs journal is unclean. any ideas
[07:34] <screechingcat> jimmy_neutron : start windows and shut it down properly
[07:34] <ltnelson89> is there maybe another channel someone can direct me to that deals more spacifically with bluetooth on linux
[07:34] <sivik> ltnelson89, what distro?
[07:35] <ltnelson89> ubuntu
[07:35] <jimmy_neutron> screechingcat: windows is not on this parition
[07:35] <sivik> !bluetooth
[07:35] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[07:35] <sivik> ltnelson89, try that
[07:35] <jimmy_neutron> screechingcat: its on an external hard drive (usb)
[07:35] <ltnelson89> tnx
[07:35] <screechingcat> jimmy_neutron : ok, which guide did u follow ?
[07:36] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guys please suggest a way to run WMV files
[07:36] <jimmy_neutron> screechingcat: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[07:36] <ArrenLex> !codecs
[07:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:36] <ArrenLex> Punjabi: essentially you need the w32codecs package.
[07:36] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> where can i get that?
[07:36] <ArrenLex> Punjabi: search on apt-get.org
[07:36] <bobdole2099> hi guys will the linux-source-2.6.15 work for 2.6.15-27-686??
[07:36] <ArrenLex> Punjabi: or download it from the mplayer website and untar it in /usr/lib/win32
[07:36] <screechingcat> PunjabiFLOYDIAN : add the PLF repo
[07:37] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok i get it. but can u suggets a way to run Itunes files?
[07:37] <cablesm102> Will Beagle 0.2.10 be in Edgy?
[07:37] <screechingcat> jimmy_neutron : did u do the fourth part ?
[07:37] <ArrenLex> !itunes
[07:37] <ubotu> itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[07:37] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> aa. thanks
[07:37] <dw_> additionally: all i can see in the lspci output containing "bridge" belongs to mpc51 (it's a nforce chipset)
[07:37] <ArrenLex> Punjabi: if you mean, how can I play DRMed files I bought from iTunes on Linux... you can't.
[07:37] <unfknblvbl> whats an itune file ?
[07:37] <unfknblvbl> i've never had one of them before
[07:37] <ltnelson89> sivik, ive allready connected my bluetooth keyboard and mouse... they work fine (im even on them right now) but i cant get them to connect on or before the login screen
[07:38] <jimmy_neutron> screechingcat: yes i did. i took out the entry in fstab
[07:38] <cablesm102> ArrenLex, you can
[07:38] <ArrenLex> unlsdafglasf: aac (m4a)
[07:38] <ArrenLex> cables: expand?
[07:38] <unfknblvbl> lol
[07:38] <unfknblvbl> ta
[07:38] <cablesm102> QTFairUse can remove the DRM
[07:38] <screechingcat> jimmy_neutron : not that. the one specific to usb drives
[07:38] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> oh. there must be some way aroudn this? lol. i read on doom2600
[07:38] <ArrenLex> cables: removing DRM != playing the DRMed file. It = illegal.
[07:38] <unfknblvbl> IRC TIP: type part of the name and pres TAB
[07:38] <UKMatt> Hey guys - If I want to create a DVD with Menus (and it is a legal dvd), what programs can/should I use?
[07:38] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> yeah i know. but then a lot of things are illegal. so whwat!
[07:39] <ArrenLex> Punjabi: the only way around it is to remove your encryption in Windows when you downloaded the files.
[07:39] <cablesm102> ArrenLex, that's true, but so is playing a DVD with VLC.
[07:39] <ArrenLex> Punabi: google itunes drm.
[07:39] <ArrenLex> cables: indeed.
[07:39] <cablesm102> I'm wondering if Edgy will have Beagle 0.2.10
[07:39] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok. thanks guys.
[07:39] <ArrenLex> cables: I don't agree with the laws. I'm merely pointing them out so he knows what he's facing.
[07:39] <cablesm102> ok
[07:39] <UKMatt> Are there any programs that can burn a DVD with a menu?
[07:39] <jimmy_neutron> screechingcat: yea. in the "my computer" window i see my ntfs partition but i can't read or write to it. if i right click i see the scripts but i still get that ntfs journal error
[07:40] <d42> Can any help? I have "Enable system beep" is selected in System Preferences Sound gnome menu. But no beep!
[07:40] <d42> Clicking on button beside "System Sounds" item produces a beep. So Software and Hardware working. I'm running Dapper.
[07:40] <d42> How do I enable the System Beep?
[07:40] <screechingcat> jimmy_neutron,  try posting your problem on that thread. givre will solve it
[07:40] <angrybunny> hey guys, a quick question before i finally go Ubuntu
[07:40] <cablesm102> !beagle
[07:40] <angrybunny> does it support .chm files?
[07:40] <ubotu> beagle: indexing and search tool for your personal data. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.6-1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1208 kB, installed size 3992 kB
[07:40] <ArrenLex> What are .chm files?
[07:40] <cablesm102> angrybunny, what do you mean?
[07:40] <cablesm102> is that a help file?
[07:40] <angrybunny> compiled html
[07:40] <screechingcat> angrybunny, what is tha /
[07:40] <angrybunny> like
[07:40] <angrybunny> the help file
[07:40] <angrybunny> yah
[07:41] <cablesm102> angrybunny, Ubuntu has its own XML help systeme
[07:41] <ltnelson89> so no one in here uses a (microsoft) bluetooth keyboard and mouse and/or has had to specially configure it to connect at boot?
[07:41] <jimmy_neutron> screechingcat: is ubuntu suppose to have an entry in "my computer"
[07:41] <angrybunny> nononono
[07:41] <angrybunny> its because
[07:41] <angrybunny> i have some e-books
[07:41] <angrybunny> some aint the word
[07:41] <ArrenLex> angrybunny: google is your best friend.http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81510 Is this helpful?
[07:41] <angrybunny> i have like 8gb ebooks
[07:41] <angrybunny> in .chm
[07:41] <screechingcat> jimmy_neutron : i dint get it. can u rephrase that please
[07:41] <jimmy_neutron> screechingcat: is ubuntu suppose to have an entry in "my computer" if the ntfs partition is removeable?
[07:42] <KenSentMe> I deleted the trashcan from my gnome desktop by accident. How can i place a new trashcan on the right of the Workspaces (don't know the exact english word)?
[07:42] <screechingcat> jimmy_neutron,  it should show up in your places menu
[07:42] <cablesm102> KenSentMe, right click on the panel and hit Add to Panel
[07:42] <screechingcat> KenSentMe, right click > add to panel
[07:42] <cablesm102> It should be there
[07:42] <jimmy_neutron> screechingcat: yes i show that
[07:43] <slashmestickston> That didn't work.
[07:43] <Jaksh_Eet> has anyone got Flash to play on Ubuntu AMD64? I tried to install gnash but the firefox plug in is not working
[07:43] <slashmestickston> stickstongueout :P
[07:43] <d42> I have a question about enabling the system beep on Ubuntu. Is this the right place to ask?
[07:43] <ArrenLex> Me stop now.
[07:43] <cablesm102> d42, sure
[07:43] <screechingcat> ArrenLex, finally
[07:44] <sivik> anyone here have openssh-client installed to check something for me
[07:44] <Asc> On a related note, does anybody know how to uninstall flash?
[07:44] <gonzo_> hey all
[07:44] <angrybunny> [ArrenLex] : thanks too much !
[07:44] <cablesm102> Asc, use the package manager...
[07:44] <jimmy_neutron> screechingcat: the error msg tells me i should run 'ntfsfix'
[07:44] <ArrenLex> Asc: how did you install it?
[07:44] <d42> I have "Enable system beep" is selected in System Preferences Sound gnome menu. But no beep! Clicking on button beside "System Sounds" item produces a beep. So Software and Hardware working. I'm running Dapper.
[07:44] <sivik> !flash
[07:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:44] <gonzo_> could any1 help me get my pvr-150 tv tuner workin
[07:44] <screechingcat> jimmy_neutron, try running it
[07:44] <gonzo_> with kdetv
[07:44] <morphir> arg, I need to have jdk-1_5_0_07-nb-5_0-linux-ml.bin installed.. I try: sh jdk-1_5_0_07-nb-5_0-linux-ml.bin..but it does not do the trick..tips?
[07:44] <cablesm102> d42, when do you expect to hear the beep?
[07:44] <Asc> It doesn't appear in Synaptic
[07:45] <ArrenLex> Asc: how did you install it?
[07:45] <gonzo_> ?
[07:45] <jimmy_neutron> screechingcat: thats the problem i can't b/c its not a command
[07:45] <screechingcat> Asc : its flashplugin-nonfree
[07:45] <cablesm102> Asc, how did you install it?
[07:45] <cablesm102> Arren, beat me
[07:45] <Asc> It was a while ago, but I suspect I downloaded whatever's on the Flash download site
[07:45] <angrybunny> well ty for the help guys. now imma go sleep :D cya !
[07:45] <ArrenLex> Asc: then it's probably in your ~/.mozilla/plugins
[07:45] <d42> cablesml02, when pressing backspace at the beginning of a line in a terminal session, etc.
[07:45] <screechingcat> jimmy_neutron, i realy dont kno that much about usn drives. ask on the forum thread
[07:45] <dibblego> what is the default key binding to lock the screen?
[07:45] <ArrenLex> Or else in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[07:45] <jimmy_neutron> screechingcat: thx thou
[07:45] <cablesm102> d42, I don't get that then.
[07:45] <gonzo_> hello?
[07:46] <Jaksh_Eet> hello
[07:46] <Asc> ArrenLex: Ah, thanks.  Found it.
[07:46] <gonzo_> lol
[07:46] <cablesm102> I'm guessing it's just not a feature of the terminal
[07:46] <ArrenLex> Asc: just search your system for flashplayer.xpt and libflashplayer.so
[07:46] <gonzo_> could any1 help me with a pvr-150 with kdetv
[07:46] <d42> cablesm102, With visual beep on, the screen flashes.
[07:46] <screechingcat> Asc : u actually comiled a tar.gz when there's a deb available
[07:46] <cablesm102> d42, that's weird.
[07:47] <ArrenLex> cat: ah, if only Flash could be compiled.
[07:47] <ArrenLex> Aw! ^___^
[07:47] <cablesm102> d42, i get visual but not sound
[07:47] <Asc> screechingcat: Can't say I recall; it was a while ago.  I guess it's possible, compiling usually isn't too hard.
[07:47] <KenSentMe> cablesm102, screechingcat: the problem is that i can't get the icon to the right of the workspaces, i know how to get it on the panel.
[07:47] <cablesm102> oh
[07:47] <d42> cablesm102, with visual off, then should get sound, when sound is selected. Right?
[07:47] <cablesm102> no idea, d42
[07:48] <screechingcat>  KenSentMe : right click icon and select move ican
[07:48] <gonzo_> could some1 please help me?
[07:48] <ArrenLex> !ask
[07:48] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:48] <cablesm102> KenSentMe, rightclick on the workspaces, uncheck lock, then move them a bit
[07:48] <cablesm102> then when you go to Add to Panel, you should be able to drag the trashbin in.
[07:48] <gonzo_> i have
[07:48] <ArrenLex> Oh, so you have.
[07:48] <gonzo_> could any1 help me with a pvr-150 with kdetv
[07:48] <cablesm102> !ubotu
[07:49] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:49] <KenSentMe> cablesm102: ah, now i found it, thanx
[07:49] <ArrenLex> gonzo: I guess you should take that as a "no one here knows how to help you with kdetv; try google, try the forums, or try asking again in 15-ish minutes."
[07:49] <Jaksh_Eet> yeah, Flash is a pain. I installed the Synaptic version and then my gmail kept crashing, so I had to take it back out but not flash sites are unable to be viewed, it really blowes
[07:49] <ArrenLex> Jaksh: god bless proprietary standards, eh?
[07:49] <gonzo_> any1 no anything about pvr-150?
[07:49] <gonzo_> haupagge
[07:49] <Jaksh_Eet> yeah, lol
[07:49] <gonzo_> tv tuner
[07:49] <Asc> I never use flash sites, so all I get out of flash is highly annoying, cpu-eating ads
[07:50] <d42> Anyone have any idea what could be stopping the System beep, when it is selected in the preferences?
[07:50] <screechingcat> Asc : use flashblock
[07:50] <Jaksh_Eet> so I tried this gnash, but the Firefox plug in seems to not be working
[07:50] <screechingcat> Jaksh_Eet, try swf-player
[07:50] <ArrenLex> Jak: gnash is not yet useable. There is no game support, sound support, flash > 7 support...
[07:50] <Jaksh_Eet> and the Flash team doesnt think linux 64bit users will want the new flash, eerrrr
[07:51] <cablesm102> !tell cablesm102 about ubotu
[07:51] <ArrenLex> Jak: they know we want it. The problem is that Linux 64-bit users are like one half of one percent of the total flash users. Welcome to obscurity.
[07:51] <THX-1138> Asc. - Yes but you are also missing the long scans issued by skull and crossbones sites for windows vulnerabilities. - do you miss it?
[07:51] <Jaksh_Eet> not really playing games on it, just trying to get flash sites to show in Firefox, like Gmail, lol
[07:51] <screechingcat> ArrenLex, and with obscurity comes great responsibility
[07:51] <cablesm102> !tell KenSentMe about panel
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about panel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:51] <ArrenLex> Jak: what does gmail have to do with flash?
[07:52] <screechingcat> Jaksh_Eet, gmail uses AJAX not flash
[07:52] <Jaksh_Eet> dont know but it crashes if it is installed
[07:52] <Asc> THX-1138: Eh?
[07:52] <Jaksh_Eet> but if uninstall flash gmail works fine so you tell me
[07:53] <none> hm i kinda messy upgraded from warty (only cd around) to dapper and later to edgy and now my xserver wont start anymore :p
[07:53] <THX-1138> Some shady sites use the browser id string to start probing for holes.
[07:53] <gonzo_> any1 no how to setup a hauguppe pvr-150
[07:53] <none> startx fails too
[07:53] <Flannel> none: you can't just upgrade from warty to dapper, you have to go warty > hoary > breezy > dapper > edgy
[07:53] <THX-1138> you got to have java and flash installed and working for best results. naturally.
[07:53] <none> ic .. that might be the problem
[07:54] <none> i just changed the sources file
[07:54] <screechingcat> none : just order a dapper cd
[07:54] <dts> how do i add a user with the command line so that the folders are set up and it asks me for pwd and so on
[07:54] <Flannel> none: but, for the bandwidth required doing all those upgrades, just download 6.06.1 ;)
[07:54] <dts> gentoo used to have superadduser
[07:54] <gonzo_> any1 no how to setup a hauguppe pvr-150
[07:54] <kuja> How do I find the size of a directory and all its files recursively?
[07:54] <none> hm
[07:54] <none> i got a dapper cd but its not bootable ..
[07:54] <none> so i had to go for warty
[07:54] <|michael|> is there any way to install both kde and gnome at the same time on a ubuntu installation?
[07:55] <Flannel> none: you mustve burned it too quickly or something
[07:55] <screechingcat> none ; what do u mean ? if its not bootable then what is it for ?
[07:55] <Flannel> |michael|: certainly, just apt-get the other
[07:55] <none> i dono i just doesnt boot :)
[07:55] <screechingcat> |michael| : DONT
[07:55] <Jaksh_Eet> does swf-player have a Firefox plug in?
[07:55] <none> and now im sitting on a broken edgy with no x server
[07:55] <THX-1138> Flannel - How do you find out how much disk space is used and available? "du"?
[07:55] <screechingcat> |michael| : use sudo aptitude to install kde/gnome
[07:55] <dw_> anyone who can help me on installing a "pcmcia bridge"?
[07:55] <Flannel> THX-1138: du and df (used and free)
[07:55] <screechingcat> Jaksh_Eet, yes
[07:55] <gonzo_> any1 no how to setup a hauguppe pvr-150
[07:56] <screechingcat> gonzo_ try the forums mate
[07:56] <[BTF] Chm0d> thats what i have Gonzo
[07:56] <Flannel> |michael|: ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop are the package names, and yeah, aptitude is probably a better choice
[07:56] <d42> I have a question regarding getting the System beep to work. Which is the best email list for addressing this query?
[07:56] <[BTF] Chm0d> haven't gotten it to work yet
[07:57] <none> so any hints on how to make it work again? already removed and reinstalled xserver-core but without effect
[07:57] <JacksLivr> where would i find the script that will let me fix my resolution for X?
[07:57] <|michael|> has anyone done this, installed both kde/gnome?
[07:57] <JacksLivr> the x configure gui
[07:57] <Flannel> |michael|: yeah, Ive got both installed
[07:57] <THX-1138> mon deiu! i need to read man du then man df too. - Flannel you are the "man" for command line query - Thank You
[07:57] <screechingcat> |michael| : ive got all three
[07:57] <Flannel> !tell JacksLivr about fixres
[07:57] <screechingcat> none : no use. its prolly broken in too many places
[07:57] <none> hm
[07:57] <|michael|> obvisouly it works
[07:58] <none> dist-upgrade is fine ..
[07:58] <none> no held back packages or something
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> d42: ubuntu-users would be the appropriate list.
[07:58] <Flannel> none: suggest reburning a dapper one (at 4x, and check the md5 of the iso) then installing that, make sure you have 6.06.1, at that
[07:58] <none> hm
[07:58] <d42> tonyyarusso, Thanks.
[07:58] <wmealing_> hey guys, which file in the system could uniquely identify a system as ubuntu and its release ?
[07:58] <screechingcat> none : i second flannel's recommendation
[07:58] <Flannel> wmealing_: "lsb_release -a"
[07:59] <wmealing_> Flannel, thanks !
[07:59] <none> id rather install debian where distupgrades actually work :p
[07:59] <Flannel> wmealing_: or, whatever flag you want, theres options for all of the lines individual
[07:59] <|michael|> can I obtain smart for ubnutu / kubuntu?
[07:59] <fyrestrtr> none: that's your choice. :)
[07:59] <wmealing_> Flannel,  yeah.. i just checked up on that.
[07:59] <Flannel> none: You can't dist upgrade from warty to dapper, simple as that.
[07:59] <surface> how about dapper to edge later?
[07:59] <Flannel> !smart
[08:00] <ubotu> smart is another meta-package manager available for Ubuntu. It's quite stable, uses APT's repositories, can handle mirrors/multiple-connections, and is supposed to make Ubuntu BiArch-compatible for Edgy. See http://labix.org/smart and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SmartPackageManager
[08:00] <wmealing_> Flannel, would you happen to know.. if its different for the sub-buntus ? (kbuntu, etc ?)
[08:00] <Flannel> surface: yes, o course
[08:00] <fyrestrtr> |michael|: sudo apt-get install smartmontools smart-notifier
[08:00] <Flannel> surface: you just can only upgrade one at a time, currently.  Although works being done in edgy and later to try and get rid of that requirement
[08:00] <fyrestrtr> oh whoops, thought you meant S.M.A.R.T
[08:00] <Flannel> wmealing_: what?
[08:01] <gonzo_> any1 no how to setup haupuege pvr-150 tv tuner???????
[08:01] <wmealing_> for example.. it says "Ubuntu" for ubuntu.. what about kbuntu ?
[08:01] <Flannel> wmealing_: no, I believe it's the same regardless,
[08:01] <wmealing_> cool
[08:01] <none> strange that it worked and apt-get seems happy now
[08:01] <surface> Flannel:  alright
[08:01] <wmealing_> thankyou, you've been a big help .
[08:02] <THX-1138> gonzo - I hate to do this going to say the mythtv channel or possibly even knoppmythj.  (Ducking barrage of incomming rotten tomatoes in 3..2..1..)
[08:02] <JacksLivr> for the love of all that is good and holy. the laptop speakers beep at high volume when i screw up. i have the volume turned all the way down.
[08:02] <|michael|> why is there no "root" in ubuntu?
[08:03] <Flannel> |michael|: because we use sudo instead
[08:03] <Flannel> !tell |michael| about sudo
[08:03] <THX-1138> !rootsudo
[08:03] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:03] <ArrenLex> michael: the ubuntu people decided sudo was safer to use and\or more convenient.
[08:03] <gonzo_> wat u mean i would perfer to usemplayer
[08:03] <MikeS> what does sudo stand for neway
[08:03] <Flannel> MikeS: Super User DO
[08:04] <THX-1138> the bot linked to a handy heap of info. - we could explain it to you in channel but then we likely would make spelling mistakes, grammer mistakes etc.  - bear with us.
[08:04] <ArrenLex> Speaking of spelling mistakes: grammar mistakes.
[08:05] <THX-1138> psst.. shh. i am really trying to look good here. - roflmao
[08:05] <ArrenLex> (Sorry. =P)
[08:05] <brendonjt> just out of interest, how hard is it to make a repocd?
[08:05] <gonzo_> i love ubuntu but its 2 much work
[08:06] <gonzo_> no1 here will even help me with my tv tuner
[08:06] <none> well i will have to fix it just to prove you guys wrong  hehe
[08:06] <christian_> hi there. is there a possibility to create a ubuntu-bootdisk with cdrom-support (to start a cd installation)?
[08:06] <Flannel> !tell christian_ about install
[08:06] <THX-1138> I had to think of the time spent learning linux as time NOT re-oinstalling windows. - making the trasnsir\tion to a new OS is hard.
[08:06] <Flannel> christian_: that page has a ton of install methods
[08:07] <JacksLivr> how do i make the laptop speaker stop beeping when tab completion doesnt find what it is looking for?
[08:07] <gonzo_> i cant get my tv tuner or remote to work
[08:07] <brendonjt> or if i copy the  the files out of /etc/cache/apt/archives from one machine to another will the second machine install from the hdd or go to the net
[08:07] <gonzo_> its frustrating
[08:08] <Asc> jackslivr: in gnome-terminal?
[08:08] <JacksLivr> well, there and in the whole system
[08:08] <JacksLivr> when i shut down it beeps
[08:08] <brendonjt> Gonzo, :i haven't got a tv turner card,  but just hang in there, ppl here  will help
[08:09] <Asc> jackslivr: For gnome-terminal there's an option in preferences.  You might also look for an option relating to system beep in BIOS.
[08:09] <THX-1138> turn off terminal bell www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=404597  (tradionally old mainframes had bells. )
[08:09] <gonzo_> ive been trying just so gay how windows is 1 2 3 with new hardware and with ubuntu u gotta go through 40 guides til u find one that works
[08:10] <brendonjt> lol
[08:11] <THX-1138> gonzo_ - everyone here is using *nix. You can too.
[08:11] <none> ah another question my mirror has server desktop and alternate isos .. whats alternate?
[08:11] <gonzo_> wat linux has the best hardware setup?
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> none: Text-mode install, no live session.  Has advanced options and works for low-memory systems as well.
[08:12] <none> thanks
[08:12] <gonzo_> FUCKKKKKKKKK
[08:12] <wickedpuppy> gonzo_, if you got problem with linux hardware ... pls complain to the manufactures if they have drivers for linux we won't be in such a big pile of crap reverse engineering their hardwares
[08:12] <gonzo_> ubuntu is to much work
[08:12] <wickedpuppy> and gonzo_  language
[08:12] <unfknblvbl> !language
[08:12] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:13] <gonzo_> o sry
[08:13] <totall_6_7> !formating
[08:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about formating - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:13] <wickedpuppy> gonzo_, if ubuntu is hard .. pls try installing/using windows without drivers
[08:13] <gonzo_> ive been tryin to get some much stuff working and nothin will work
[08:13] <kraut> moin
[08:13] <gonzo_> i no windows is the devil
[08:13] <kuja> Windows has more support, it's a widely known fact. How about you contribute to the Open Source Community, gonzo_?
[08:14] <gonzo_> how?
[08:14] <kuja> If there are no drivers for what you want, write them.
[08:14] <kuja> Contribute, and allow people in your position to use them happily.
[08:14] <kuja> That is what the open source community is all about.
[08:14] <gonzo_> im terrible with computers
[08:14] <Schamane> a good morning to everyone
[08:14] <gonzo_> i always get programs in tar.gz
[08:14] <ironskilit> hello everyone
[08:14] <gonzo_> i unzip and idk wat to do
[08:14] <wickedpuppy> gonzo_, check out synaptic ... you never have to touch the source file again
[08:15] <ironskilit> anyone know how to install mythtv
[08:15] <Schamane> i got a big problem in getting ubuntu server running on an dell 1950
[08:15] <gonzo_> what do i do?
[08:15] <Schamane> does anyone got this server installed?
[08:15] <kuja> gonzo_: Source distributions are usually made in tar.gz
[08:15] <kuja> The chances are high that you downloaded the program's source.
[08:15] <wickedpuppy> i havn't compile anything for 2 or so years i been using ubuntu ...and last time i compile was 5 years or so ago
[08:15] <kuja> Check out Synaptic as wickedpuppy says.
[08:15] <gonzo_> http://www.lirc.org/
[08:15] <wickedpuppy> its been yum and apt-get all the way
[08:15] <gonzo_> i was getting stuff from there
[08:15] <kuja> wickedpuppy: ew@yum
[08:15] <wickedpuppy> gonzo_, are you using ubuntu ?
[08:15] <kuja> apt all the way =)
[08:16] <wickedpuppy> yum update / emerge world / apt-get update
[08:16] <wickedpuppy> :P
[08:16] <kuja> Ew at emerge
[08:16] <kuja> That's still compiling unless it's a *-bin
[08:16] <kuja> =)
[08:17] <gonzo_> ill figure out the remote
[08:17] <wickedpuppy> gonzo_, if you are using ubuntu now ... pls go to system -> admin -> synaptic package manager ... and install the package you want
[08:17] <kuja> I only compile when I need specific builds. Ubuntu allows me to get binaries for everything I need.
[08:17] <gonzo_> i just dont understand this stupid pvr-150 tv tuenr
[08:17] <kuja> gonzo_: apt-cache search lirc
[08:17] <gonzo_> i found lirc in synaptic
[08:19] <|michael|> if you have both kde and gnome can they see all the same files and programs on the same disc?
[08:19] <ironskilit> how do I get ubuntu to recognize my tv tuner
[08:19] <|michael|> or do I have to setup the menus for both seperately
[08:20] <gonzo_> i installed lirc how do i config it
[08:20] <|michael|> aptitude install kde" did not work
[08:21] <Asc> michael: They will be able to run the same programs, but I'd be willing to bet you'll have to setup menus seperately for programs that don't make entries for themselves automatically.
[08:21] <indref> I need a synaptic xorg.conf walkthrough
[08:22] <|michael|> ok, I will check that out.  thanks
[08:22] <indref> Anybody?
[08:22] <treitter> is there any way to include any available -dbg package by default when you add a package (for any front end)?
[08:23] <ironskilit> cool this synaptic package manager rocks
[08:23] <totall_6_7> yes it does :D
[08:23] <gonzo_> any no anything about pvr-150
[08:23] <indref> ironskilit, You should use it all the time, even works for drivers
[08:23] <ironskilit> nope
[08:23] <ironskilit> oh really
[08:23] <indref> yarly
[08:23] <brendonjt> or if i copy the  the files out of /etc/cache/apt/archives from one machine to another will the second machine install from the hdd or go to the net
[08:24] <indref> Who knows all the possible options for xorg.conf?
[08:25] <dw_> ah, i just read in the manual of the pavilion 9043ea that this this notebook doesn't have a pcmcia slot, but an !ExpressCard slot. Question: do i have to install additional packages to get this to work?
[08:26] <ironskilit> okay, I need help w/ mythtv setup
[08:26] <gonzo_> iron skillet how u get ubuntu to detect ur tv tuner?
[08:26] <ironskilit> ummm, haven't do that yet
[08:27] <gonzo_> o
[08:27] <IceTox> hey guys.. I'm trying to find out what network card I have. been trying lspci that gives me nothing, and I've pasted my output on lshw on http://pastebin.com/795774 . Hope anyone can help me finding out which network interface card I have.
[08:27] <gonzo_> wat kind u got?
[08:27] <ironskilit> I guess you can use the synaptic package manager
[08:27] <gonzo_> meaning?
[08:28] <hav0k> does anyone else have kiba dock?
[08:29] <dsl_> hello people
[08:29] <hav0k> hi
[08:29] <Schamane> how can i change the kernel in the ubuntu install disk
[08:29] <Schamane> or where can i get an 6.06.2 version?
[08:29] <geoaxis> i need to download ubuntu package files..i am sitting at a nice DSL connection
[08:30] <geoaxis> but problem is that my system is at home
[08:30] <Schamane> a bug in the installer kernel is fixed, but not in 6.06.1
[08:30] <geoaxis> i need to download the files by hand
[08:30] <KenSentMe> What mediaplayer do you people use to play online videos?
[08:30] <hav0k> geoaxis, you could download it, burn it, and take it home
[08:30] <Flannel> Schamane: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[08:31] <geoaxis> hav0k:  well the problem is dependecies
[08:31] <Schamane> Flannel: thx
[08:31] <geoaxis> there are so many of them
[08:31] <maxamillion> horray for the 2.6.17-10 kernel releasing in edgy today!!!! :)
[08:31] <hav0k> so you want to get all of them?
[08:31] <hav0k> like, you already have ubuntu installed, you just want to get package files off the dsl?
[08:32] <geoaxis> hav0k : just all that are necessary to run mythtv
[08:32] <ironskilit> mythtv is not showing up in Graphics
[08:32] <ironskilit> what do I do
[08:32] <Schamane> ui, a lot of work for changing the kernel
[08:32] <JacksLivr> tonyyarusso: thanks for all your help. windows and ubuntu both work. I  have a long way to go to get ubuntu working well.... but the repartition and install worked. thanks again for all your help... gnight
[08:32] <hav0k> hmm, if you have the list of them (how many are there)
[08:33] <geoaxis> hav0k:  thats the probelm...i dont have a list
[08:33] <hav0k> well, see if mythtv's website has a list... then you could prbably download them all
[08:33] <hav0k> by the way, does anyone use kiba-dock?
[08:33] <geoaxis> hav0k:  what i could have done is run apt-get with -s and got a lost of all packages
[08:33] <geoaxis> list
[08:33] <geoaxis> *
[08:34] <geoaxis> apt-get -s install mythtv
[08:34] <Flannel> ironskilit: you need to have multiverse enabled
[08:34] <totall_6_7> ironskilit: thanks for the idea; i have been trying to figure out how to format my ntfs drives to ext3 drives, and i was at a loss then you said synaptic and i thougth to search there for a way, i allready have something installed to do it: gparted
[08:34] <ironskilit> ahh..
[08:35] <totall_6_7> thanks again for reminding me
[08:35] <ironskilit> you're welcome
[08:35] <ironskilit> just found out about that tonight
[08:35] <indref> Well, I found what I was after, anyone want a link or should I keep it for myself?
[08:35] <totall_6_7> i have known about it for sometime, its one of the best things about ubuntu
[08:35] <totall_6_7> :D:D
[08:35] <ironskilit> Flannel: how do I enable multiverse?
[08:36] <indref> ironskilit, I can do that.
[08:36] <Flannel> !tell ironskilit about multiverse
[08:36] <lumgwada> hey in  gnome alt+tab scrolls between windows of the same workspace is there a key combo for scrolling all windows and all workspaces?
[08:36] <hav0k> hmm, i dont really know what the problem is
[08:36] <ironskilit> alright I'm all eyes
[08:36] <indref> ironskilit, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[08:36] <Flannel> ironskilit: check your query from ubotu
[08:37] <indref> ironskilit, That link will help you do it in five seconds flat. Just be sure to follow the steps to the letter.
[08:37] <IceTox> hey guys.. I'm trying to find out what network card I have. been trying lspci that gives me nothing, and I've pasted my output on lshw on http://pastebin.com/795774 . Hope anyone can help me finding out which network interface card I have.
[08:38] <ironskilit> k
[08:38] <mwright1> how do I install 2.6.x kernel headers?
[08:38] <lupine_85> apt-get install linux-headers-<version>
[08:39] <lupine_85> apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) gets the ones matching your current kernel
[08:39] <logos`> Hello. I downloaded the DVD AMD64 iso file and have burnt it to a DVD. How do you boot it into the "Live" demo?
[08:40] <lupine_85> put it in your DVD drive
[08:40] <lupine_85> reboot and set the bios to boot from CD if necessary
[08:40] <lupine_85> let it load up
[08:41] <logos`> lupine_85: It boots fine but when it boots it give me the list of install options. What step gets you to the live demo?
[08:41] <lupine_85> not a clue
[08:41] <lupine_85> try them in order
[08:42] <ironskilit> damnit
[08:42] <KenSentMe> Hi. I'm running dual-desktop (desktop stretched over 2 screens) using the big desktop feature from ATI. Everything runs well, but Totem also stretches the video, just like my desktop is stretched. Anyone knows how i can get Totem to display videos normally?
[08:42] <logos`> lupine_85: I don't want it to over write what I have on my HD now. I was just wanting to run the Live demo to see what it looks like.
[08:42] <Flannel> logos`: what options does it give?
[08:42] <lupine_85> logos`: the live DVD only supports installation from the desktop
[08:43] <lupine_85> so no need to worry
[08:43] <bur[n] er> anyone know if there is a gui that will initiate Reverse VNC connections?
[08:43] <bur[n] er> something tied to vino maybe?
[08:43] <logos`> Flannel: Just the standard "Install" options. I don't see an option for the "Live" demo...?
[08:44] <indref> I think I broke my terminal.
[08:44] <indref> Doesn't work anymore :/
[08:44] <ironskilit> I read it but I still don't know how
[08:44] <indref> I type in sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and nothing happens
[08:45] <lupine_85> gksudo
[08:45] <indref> I just get a new line.
[08:45] <indref> gksudo?
[08:45] <lupine_85> yes
[08:45] <indref> What is that,.
[08:45] <lupine_85> use gksudo not sudo for GUI appts
[08:45] <lupine_85> appps*
[08:46] <indref> I have been using this for three weeks and I've never even heard of gksudo
[08:46] <indref> What gives.
[08:46] <kuja> In bash, how do I loop throug * files while skipping X?
[08:46] <kuja> for f in * ; do something ; done
[08:46] <kuja> But I want to skip a certain file
[08:46] <indref> I get a warning and nothing again.
[08:46] <Flannel> indref: what warning?
[08:47] <indref> GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[08:47] <indref> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[08:47] <lupine_85> if f <blah> ; <do; fi
[08:47] <lupine_85> :)
[08:47] <Flannel> indref: are you doing this is a terminal, inside of gnome?
[08:47] <indref> Yah
[08:47] <indref> Right now, same machine
[08:47] <Flannel> indref: try just normal gedit, it pops up fine (just read only), right?
[08:47] <indref> I'm just trying to tweak my xorg.conf
[08:47] <indref> Yeah, it does.
[08:48] <indref> Normal gedit is fine, and read only.
[08:48] <wmealing_> does ubuntu deal with dual arch packages in a current shipping release ?
[08:48] <kuja> lupine_85: How do I say "if $f not equal "foo""?
[08:48] <lupine_85> not sure
[08:48] <indref> $f <> "foo"
[08:48] <wmealing_> for example.. 64 and 32 bit packages installed at the same time
[08:48] <lupine_85> I don't do much bash scripting
[08:48] <kuja> Thanks indref
[08:49] <indref> If not that then $f != "foo"
[08:49] <lupine_85> wmealing_: you generally only have one  or another arch installed at a time
[08:49] <ironskilit> well, I'm kind of tired, I'll try again tomorrow
[08:49] <wmealing_> lupine_85,  ok.
[08:49] <ironskilit> later everyone
[08:49] <lupine_85> you can --force-architecture if you really, really need to
[08:49] <lupine_85> not recommended though
[08:49] <ironskilit> thanks for all the help
[08:49] <kaschei> for f in *; if [ !( "$f" = "foo") ] ; then <do this>; fi; done
[08:49] <Flannel> indref: != is for strings, -ne is for integers
[08:50] <kuja> $ for f in * ; if $f <> "upx" ; do upx --best $f ; fi ; done
[08:50] <kuja> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `if'
[08:50] <wmealing_> lupine_85, what command will get verbose information from the package system, say if i wanted to know the arch.. I know its dpkg.. but dpkg.. what ?
[08:50] <kuja> indref: ?
[08:50] <wmealing_> similar to rpm -qi packagename
[08:50] <indref> Flannel, News to me, I've never scripted bash before :D
[08:50] <lupine_85> wmealing_: it should all be in the name of the file
[08:50] <lupine_85> but... (wait)
[08:50] <kuja> I'll try that kaschei
[08:50] <indref> I'm still trying to get my terminal to listen to me.
[08:50] <indref> Wait, maybe I should use vi for now
[08:50] <wmealing_> or something to that effect
[08:51] <lupine_85> dpkg -f | --field  filename [control-field]  ...
[08:51] <lupine_85> e.g. dpkg -f a_file.deb Depends
[08:51] <indref> vi works :D
[08:51] <kaschei> I forgot a "do" in there
[08:51] <lupine_85> or. just dpkg -f a_file.deb
[08:52] <kuja> kaschei: Before the if?
[08:52] <wmealing_> lupine_85, ok
[08:52] <lupine_85> there's also dpkg -I (uppercase i, NOT one)
[08:53] <kuja> $ for f in * ; do if [ !("$f" = "upx") ]  ; then upx --best $f ; fi ; done
[08:53] <kuja> bash: [: too many arguments
[08:53] <kuja> Something wrong with the [ part? :P
[08:54] <kaschei> let me try it :X
[08:54] <kuja> I'm trying to compress all executables installed on my pendrive to save space :)
[08:54] <kuja> But I don't want to mess up `upx'
[08:55] <lupine_85> you could always compress them all, then uncompress upx?
[08:56] <lupine_85> use bzip2 for maximum compression
[08:56] <kuja> upx compressing itself? I'm afraid of the results.
[08:56] <kaschei> for f in *; do if [ $f = "foo" ] ; then echo ""; else upx --best $f; fi; done
[08:56] <lupine_85> hehe
[08:56] <kuja> Why use bzip2?
[08:56] <kaschei> I'm too tired to figure out what I did wrong in the test
[08:56] <kuja> bzip2 is for creating compressed archives
[08:56] <kaschei> it has max compression
[08:56] <kuja> upx is for compressing binaries
[08:56] <kaschei> well, not max
[08:56] <wmealing_> lupine_85, thanks.. i'll give that a go.
[08:57] <lupine_85> ah, ignore me
[08:57] <lupine_85> never used upx
[08:57] <kaschei> my question: I would like to install ubuntu using just a 128MB flash drive. I followed the instructions up to the point where it wants me to copy the whole contents of the CD to my stick.
[08:57] <sakitel> hello
[08:57] <sakitel> somebody who use ndiswrapper????????????
[08:57] <kuja> kaschei: Using "$f" != "upx" works
[08:58] <kaschei> kuja at 3am I make things needlessly complex
[08:58] <kuja> That just means you're functioning at a complex level :)
[08:58] <kaschei> I spent 2 minutes trying to do it without a command after then
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[08:58] <logos`> Hello again. I rebooted to check and see if I was missing anything. I couldn't find any option for the "live demo." No one here knows how to boot the DVD into the Live demo mode?
[08:58] <geoaxis> need help from an apt-get guru
[08:58] <geoaxis> i need a list of all dependencies of mythtv
[08:59] <sakitel> somebody who use ndiswrapper????????????
[08:59] <kuja> Hm, I removed a bunch of files through Move to Trash, but I don't see them in my ~/.Trash :P
[08:59] <sakitel> somebody who use ndiswrapper????????????
[08:59] <sakitel> somebody who use ndiswrapper????????????
[08:59] <sakitel> somebody who use ndiswrapper????????????
[08:59] <wmealing_> DONT SPAM THE CHANNEL
[08:59] <kuja> I spent a crapload of time removing files from the point I had 100MB on my pendrive now I have 108MB... something's wrong here.
[09:00] <jazzrocker> hahaha
[09:00] <kaschei> Is there a smaller install CD I can use for a barebones install? even the server iso is 500 megs
[09:00] <whichway> umm.
[09:00] <whichway> ubuntu christian edition
[09:00] <kaschei> is that in answer to me, whichway?
[09:00] <kuja> kaschei: Now how do I say "if $f does not contain "upx""? :)
[09:01] <whichway> no
[09:01] <kuja> So I can make a script which I can execute from anywhere without effecting upx
[09:01] <kaschei> you might need something more complex than [
[09:01] <kaschei> you want to match against *upx*?
[09:01] <mwright1> hey I've got wlan0.. just wandering how I select my preferred network
[09:01] <mwright1> and pass the wep key
[09:02] <kuja> kaschei: hm, sorry but how?
[09:02] <kaschei> I was asking for clarity
[09:02] <foureight84> is anyone here using the pam_keyring package to stop the nm-applet from asking for the keyring everytime you log on?
[09:02] <kaschei> [ only has test for string equivalence
[09:02] <whichway> kaschei: have you tried puppy linux? damn small linux? xubuntu?
[09:03] <kaschei> I just want to install it as I have installed gentoo and debian, without a cd burner
[09:03] <kaschei> everything else about the computer is decent specs and I like xfce for my laptop and not much else
[09:03] <whichway> kaschei: xubuntu is ubuntu with xfce
[09:03] <foureight84> anyone?
[09:03] <kuja> kaschei: Yeah I would like to match *upx*
[09:03] <foureight84> i'm trying to stop nm-applet from asking for the keyring on bootup
[09:05] <kaschei> so does xubuntu have a smaller installer?
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> !installation > kaschei
[09:05] <kaschei> I have read that, as I stated
[09:06] <fyrestrtr> well I wasn't here at that time.
[09:06] <fyrestrtr> and if that doesn't answer your question, then the answer is no :)
[09:07] <kaschei> so the answer to the question "is there any way to install ubuntu from a 128mb drive?" is "no"?
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> yes
[09:08] <MugginsM> "yes there is, but it's quite hard"
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> and not a supported install method :)
[09:09] <holzmodem> when will be the beta of edgy released?
[09:09] <THX-1138> October 25?
[09:10] <holzmodem> i mean the beta or rc
[09:10] <HeavyThinker> spontaneous question for room: im looking for a graphing / plotting app (like a graphing calculator) - any reccomendations?
[09:11] <THX-1138> There are early betas called "Knot" available. - hm.. "knot" got to mean something chsllenging.
[09:11] <prokher> hi, guys is it possible to make kmail work through socks proxy? i set up socks proxy in kde settings and button "test" said everything is ok, but kmail can't get mail... what is wrong ?
[09:11] <holzmodem> knot = alpha
[09:12] <THX-1138> Ah. - You ARE right. - Alpha.
[09:12] <prokher> holzmodem: btw, i am using kubuntu knot, and happy :)
[09:13] <THX-1138> I am knot. - sometin'-somethin' about a missing clib <shrug> dunno.
[09:13] <prokher> holzmodem: i'm happy to download up to 100mb/day of updates :)
[09:13] <THX-1138> 100mbs daily? - your isp isn't making any money from you. - lol
[09:14] <holzmodem> prokher, i am using it too
[09:14] <brendonjt> hey guys  i added a terminal to the launcher,  how do i make it open  in root
[09:14] <prokher> THX-1138: yea, i have unlimited traffic at work and at home, i pay monthly it independs on traffic downloaded/uploaded
[09:14] <THX-1138> Okay-okay. (uses referee time out signal) now i am feeling left out. - sheesh.
[09:15] <brendonjt> THX-1138, :hehe  me to  no one  answering me
[09:16] <THX-1138> Aw - we can fix that. sry to have missed your question.
[09:16] <prokher> guys, is there any official support anyway? please support me with kmail and socks proxy :)
[09:16] <eurytus> does using syslinux to prep a USB drive for install endanger the data on that drive in any way?
[09:17] <THX-1138> !iptables
[09:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[09:17] <eurytus> !install
[09:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:17] <THX-1138> nada pfft! - dumb bot
[09:17] <HeavyThinker> eurytus: not in my experience with a plain old fat32 formatted usb flash drive
[09:18] <prokher> !iptables
[09:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[09:18] <THX-1138> erm - i am going to take double jeopardy question for one thousand alex it's a long shot. take a look at shorewall for help with kmail and your proxy?
[09:19] <prokher> ops, sorry
[09:19] <prokher> THX-1138: pardon me?
[09:20] <Asc> brendonjt: make a launcher, enter 'sudo bash' in the 'command' line, and check the 'execute in terminal' box.  It'll start a terminal and query for the root password.
[09:20] <THX-1138> I dunno it sounded good at the time. i kinda make things up as i go along. (Hides under chair)
[09:21] <brendonjt> Asc, :i am using the gnome terminal so instead of haveing gnome-terminal  have sudo bash
[09:23] <Caplain> i need a cross compiler that works with distcc
[09:23] <Asc> brendonjt: well, there's probably no way short of logging in as root to make it start as root by default
[09:23] <Asc> brendonjt: You'll have to enter the root password one way or the other.
[09:24] <sakitel> hi
[09:24] <sakitel> I have this trouble
[09:24] <rene32> Hi folks! When I play a quicktime video with the built-in movie player, I get no sound. The annoying thingis, that I have to logout and login again to get the sound working again. Any ideas on what he problem could be?
[09:24] <brendonjt> yip  i know that what i mean as when the terminal opens it is at root@babylon5:~
[09:25] <alberto> eo
[09:25] <brendonjt> Asc, :yip  i know that what i mean as when the terminal opens it is at root@babylon5:~
[09:26] <CromagDK> !dk
[09:26] <ubotu> For at f support til Ubuntu p Dansk bedes du venligst g til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal tales kun Engelsk.
[09:26] <sakitel> $modprobe ndiswraper      ------------>  FATAL: Module ndiswraper not found.
[09:26] <sakitel> hi
[09:26] <sakitel> I have this trouble
[09:26] <sakitel> $modprobe ndiswraper      ------------>  FATAL: Module ndiswraper not found.
[09:26] <alberto> fuck you
[09:26] <rene32> sakitel: ndiswrappppppper
[09:26] <alberto> bitch
[09:26] <ivaldi> I think it's called ndiswrapper
[09:26] <CromagDK> !admin
[09:26] <Asc> brendonjt: then problem is solved, da?
[09:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about admin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:26] <eurytus> Ok, I am trying to copy lots of files to a USB hard drive from a mounted iso of the ubuntu installer. I used "cp -r /mnt/iso/* /media/usb1" and got three "cannot create symbolic link" errors, I think because fat32 doesn't support symlinks. Should I ignore these or have I messed something up?
[09:27] <brendonjt> Asc, :yip  gksudo gnome-terminal
[09:28] <Asc> brendonjt: Da.  Same effect.
[09:28] <rene32> !sound
[09:28] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:29] <ISOLATEDViRuS> dudes.
[09:29] <sakitel> rene32: thans, an sorry, i need to sleep
[09:29] <ISOLATEDViRuS> someone want to direct me as to how to set up icecast for amarok?
[09:29] <sakitel> rene32: thanks, an sorry, i need to sleep
[09:29] <af_> hi to all
[09:30] <brendonjt> Asc, :but with the gksudo  it works
[09:30] <af_> I have changed mobo on an ubuntu system, all works with the exception of the lan adapter. how to reconfigure it without gnome?
[09:31] <Asc> brendonjt: sudo bash with terminal checkbox enabled works fine for me.
[09:31] <sakitel> rene32: No is the same
[09:31] <lupine_85> su works well here
[09:31] <sakitel> rene32: :S
[09:31] <chalcedony> how would someone running on ubuntu live set up samba for trouble shooting? he can't find it in init.d
[09:31] <sakitel> $modprobe ndiswrapper      ------------>  FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[09:32] <jenda> CromagDK: I think what you were looking for is !ops , but the problem seems to have solved itself.
[09:32] <rene32> sakitel: Have you installed ndiswrapper?
[09:32] <sakitel> yes
[09:32] <sakitel> rene32:yes
[09:32] <brendonjt> asc: i went apps->assecories->terminal add to launcher
[09:33] <gkor> i have a / directory and a /home directory but i also have a /dev/hda2 directory.  i am wondering if perhaps my home went to / and my /dev/hda2 that is mounted on my desktop is just home directory space ?  -- i dont know how to find out or remedy
[09:33] <Asc> brendonjt: my window manager doesn't have menus.... I just right-clicked on the desktop and selected make launcher
[09:34] <chalcedony> is samba in init.d on the live cd ? or how ?
[09:34] <brendonjt> asc:  what window manager are you using?
[09:34] <sakitel> rene32: yes, i have, so now i need up the module of ndiswrapper
[09:34] <Asc> brendonjt: Ion
[09:35] <rene32> sakitel: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper?
[09:35] <brendonjt> asc:  me a bit dumb here never heard of it?
[09:36] <htims> hello, i've a problem with starting gnome, after i logged in with gdm;  i only see the background but the gome-session seems to hang. i also found a zombie prozess: xrdb
[09:36] <rene32> sakitel: Have a look here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77214.html Similar problem.
[09:37] <htims> i just added a new user to my system and here everything works as expected.
[09:37] <hoehaver> can someone help me with dual boot...
[09:37] <hoehaver> i have a 200 gig hard drive and i partitioned it in half
[09:38] <Asc> brendonjt: It's not as well known as Gnome/KDE... in any case, I was just saying that I don't know that much about what menu options are available, etc.
[09:38] <hoehaver> the first partition has win XP on it and the other partition...well its not a partition its unalocated space.
[09:38] <af_> funny , I can't finf anything about it
[09:38] <chalcedony> is there any way to move files using ubuntu live ?
[09:38] <sasuke> hi when i try to login under my root account, it says Error, your last session lasted 10 seconds, and then it takes me back to the login screen
[09:38] <sasuke> why
[09:38] <hoehaver> im trying to install ubuntu 6.06 on the second partition...with the live install.
[09:39] <chalcedony> sasuke: you're haunted
[09:39] <brendonjt> asc:  cool  well thank you i learn't something tonight  thank you for your time
[09:39] <hoehaver> um....how exactly do i do this without messing up windows on the first partition..
[09:39] <Asc> brendonjt: Glad I could try to help.
[09:39] <IceTox> you happend to know of any program already made logging unstabillity of your internet connection? I need a program logging when my internet connection drops out and for how long it stays down.
[09:40] <Asc> hoehaver: you'll want to add two partitions, one for Linux, one for swap.
[09:41] <sasuke> can anyone help me?
[09:41] <hoehaver> so in the unalocated space...i make two partitions...and the first of the two partitions has to be the swap?
[09:41] <Asc> hoehaver: swap should usually be 256-512 (at the most) MB.  Linux (root filesystem) should take the rest of the space.
[09:42] <chalcedony> if a person has ubuntu live cd .. can he ssh or ftp or samba ?
[09:42] <Asc> hoehaver: The order of the swap partition isn't really important.  If you've got more than maybe 512 MB or RAM, you can probably skip it if you want to.
[09:42] <HeavyThinker> sasuke: why're you trying to log in as root graphically?
[09:42] <chalcedony> hi IrishMox
[09:42] <HeavyThinker> sasuke: i had the same problem when i didnt have a writable home directory.. if it helps
[09:42] <sasuke> well i have 2 accounts, and in the install i selected Sasuke, i added a new user and now my Sasuke doesn't work
[09:42] <hoehaver> i only have 256 mb ram...
[09:43] <sasuke> it gives me
[09:43] <sasuke> Error, your last session lasted 10 seconds, and then it takes me back to the login screen
[09:43] <chalcedony> hi fix-
[09:43] <Asc> hoehaver: You'll want swap then.  I've got 256 swap and 256 RAM and it works fine.
[09:44] <sasuke> HeavyThinker, howd you fix it
[09:44] <HeavyThinker> sasuke: check that /home/[account name]  exists for all of your accounts. if it doesnt, gnome will refuse to start, and exit like that
[09:44] <hoehaver> asc the greater amount of space you have for your swap drive...what will it do..
[09:44] <hoehaver> like...the most space the better it runs?? or.....?
[09:44] <sasuke> i can't get in to it says i don't have the right permissions
[09:45] <HeavyThinker> !rootsudo
[09:45] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:45] <Asc> hoehaver: It's like Mac OS virtual memory or windows swap file.  The system uses the disk as slow supplemental RAM.
[09:45] <sasuke> it won't let me do sudo either
[09:46] <Asc> *windows page file
[09:46] <hoehaver> ah, i see
[09:46] <hoehaver> thhank you.
[09:46] <HeavyThinker> sasuke: ouch, you can get to a terminal, right?
[09:46] <MugginsM> you can add more swapfiles later if you assign too little at install
[09:46] <sasuke> yeah in temrinal
[09:46] <sasuke> terminal
[09:46] <Asc> glad to help
[09:46] <sasuke> brb
[09:46] <HeavyThinker> sasuke: what exactly goes wrong when you try to run sudo?
[09:48] <chalcedony> IceTox: what sort of connection do you have ?
[09:48] <hoehaver> one more question....the swap..do i make it a primary partition?
[09:48] <hoehaver> or extended?
[09:49] <MugginsM> doesn't matter, Linux doesn't mind if swap is primary or not
[09:49] <hoehaver> ok, thanks
[09:50] <sasuke> okay i'm in a failsafe terminal window
[09:50] <sasuke> when i try something like this
[09:50] <sasuke> sasuke@Sasuke:/home/techteam$ irssi
[09:50] <sasuke> ** ERROR **: Couldn't create /home/sasuke/.irssi directory
[09:50] <sasuke> aborting...
[09:50] <sasuke> Aborted
[09:50] <sasuke> sasuke@Sasuke:/home$ cd ./sasuke
[09:50] <sasuke> bash: cd: ./sasuke: Permission denied
[09:50] <sasuke> and i can't cd to it
[09:50] <sasuke> i need to remove chmod 640
[09:50] <enat> ls -lh $HOME
[09:50] <enat> i mean
[09:51] <enat> ls -ld $HOME
[09:51] <HeavyThinker> sasuke: well then, you need to recreate your home directory if it doesnt exist
[09:51] <ChaosFan> sasuke: chmod -R 740 $HOME
[09:51] <enat> sasuke: sudo chmod 755 $HOME && sudo chown sasuke:sasuke $HOME
[09:52] <HeavyThinker> that'll do it. thanks ChaosFan and enat
[09:52] <sasuke> okay i can't type anything in the window :s
[09:53] <enat> hey, are the xgl packages bork or something?
[09:53] <ChaosFan> sakitel: try switching to a vt using ctrl-alt-f1, log in (if you've set the root password, as root) and then chmod and chown your home
[09:53] <Trackilizer> I have a daul screen setup, but how do i disable one screen when playing games? do i have to edit the XORG file evrytime? or is the a script that will do that for me automatically?
[09:53] <ChaosFan> argh, sasuke, i mean
[09:54] <HeavyThinker> ChaosFan: ahh true, didnt think of that... i did it in a failsafe terminal x login...
[09:55] <ChaosFan> vts are handy ;)
[09:55] <Sasuke> okay that worked the sudo -R 740 $HOME
[09:55] <Sasuke> but now i'm on a new error
[09:55] <eurytus> ok, in the "installation from usb memory stick" it says: edit syslinux.cfg and remove all references to "install"
[09:55] <Sasuke> in the /home/sasuke/ it doesn't show the folder Desktop
[09:55] <Sasuke> well now its showing it, but its empty :s
[09:55] <Sasuke> i had tons of stuff in it :S
[09:56] <eurytus> However, "install" seems to be replaced by "casper" in the latest version, and removing all these instances (%s/\/casper\///g) and booting gives "Could not find kernel image: /casper/.vml" when i try to boot
[09:56] <Sasuke> okay bbs
[09:57] <eurytus> indeed, the instructions are very vague about just what is supposed to be removed
[09:58] <Trackilizer> Is there anyway one can screen will be disabled when starting a game? i have a daul screen setup, but i don't want to have to edit the XORG file everytime i start a game.
[09:58] <ChaosFan> Trackilizer: thats depending on the game
[09:58] <IceTox> Linda, I've got 4000kb/400kb.. How come? (chalcedony)
[09:59] <Trackilizer> Every game I've tried hasn't worked, Quake3, Warzone, Unreal tournament, even Planet Penguin Racer.
[09:59] <chalcedony> IceTox: my friend might be able to help you in #Windows on unet
[10:00] <Trackilizer> I just see part of the game on the right monitor, but only a litte bit of the game on the bottom right.
[10:00] <IceTox> ok, thanks a lot linda :) And yeah.. Please come back to active in your home network :) I miss talking to ya :)
[10:02] <eurytus> argh
[10:03] <eurytus> can someone clarify what the part "Editing syslinux.cfg" means on this page?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[10:03] <eurytus> there no longer is any reference to "install/" but rather it says "casper/"
[10:03] <eurytus> and when I remove all the paths, do I also remove the "boot=casper" parts of lines?
[10:04] <eurytus> do I need to move everything in /casper to the root of the drive?
[10:04] <eurytus> I bet that's what it is
[10:04] <eurytus> install/ used to have everything, now casper does
[10:05] <kuja> No idea :S
[10:05] <kuja> I boot Dapper LiveCD using my USB stick as a storage device
[10:06] <marshall> whats the name of the channel where we talk about edgy again?
[10:07] <bahr> Hi, how do I make firefox detect proxy settings automatically? If I am at school, my aterm can use proxy because I made an export line in my bash_profile but, firefox wont connect to the internet unless I manually specify the proxy settings
[10:07] <eurytus> to whom should I speak about updating the install documentation?
[10:07] <eurytus> oh, it is a wiki
[10:07] <eurytus> I should have seen that coming
[10:07] <Aaroncn> does anyone use realplayer listen to Internet radio (like BBC)? I open the website (bbc.co.uk/radio4), but realplayer (plugin) has no sound...
[10:08] <AbortD> !desklet
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about desklet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <AbortD> !gdesklet
[10:08] <ubotu> gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness. Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[10:08] <hoehaver> does someone know of a website i can use as a guide to install my second OS
[10:08] <hoehaver> this crap is...kinda hard.
[10:09] <hoehaver> to hard for me...i get to step 5 and i dont know what to do from there...
[10:09] <Aaroncn> hoehaver: what's your 2nd os/
[10:09] <hoehaver> ubuntu 6.06
[10:09] <Asc> What's step 5?
[10:09] <mattyv> marshall: ubuntu+1
[10:09] <hoehaver> i have a 200 gig hard drive and its cut in half...on the first partition i have windows XP and the second partiton isnt even a partiton its unalocated space
[10:09] <marshall> mattyv, thanks
[10:10] <hoehaver> step 5 is where i choose my mount point
[10:10] <C-O-L-T> i need an audio converter program for linux. I want to convert an mp3 file to wav
[10:10] <Aaroncn> hoehaver: 6.06 is likely able to detect the current os, and will install a dual grub something like that.
[10:10] <hoehaver> and i have to select my swap drive and the other partition for my base system...
[10:10] <matahari> hi
[10:10] <hoehaver> but on the selections it like " / "  " ?boot?
[10:11] <hoehaver> and all kinda of other selections..
[10:11] <Aaroncn> does anyone use realplayer listen to Internet radio (like BBC)? I open the website (bbc.co.uk/radio4), but realplayer (plugin) has no sound.!
[10:11] <hoehaver> " /boot "
[10:11] <ivaldi> !info soundconverter
[10:11] <lwizardl> hi
[10:11] <ubotu> soundconverter: simple sound converter application for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 216 kB
[10:11] <hoehaver> not a question manr :P
[10:11] <hoehaver> mark*
[10:11] <ivaldi> C-O-L-T: try that one :)
[10:11] <Asc> hoehaver: the mount point for the linux partition should be '/' and boot should be enabled.
[10:11] <zaggynl> how to check if your burner runs at udma?
[10:12] <C-O-L-T> ivaldi: thanks
[10:12] <lwizardl> what is an app that works for making dvds in linux (author dvds including menu making) ? What about editing MPG2 video?
[10:12] <hoehaver> but when i try to select the mount point only my first partition shows up
[10:12] <hoehaver> the partition with windows XP on it
[10:12] <matahari> i have a problem with the ubuntu livecd
[10:12] <matahari> it won't start - after the spalsh screen i get into "busybox"
[10:12] <Aaroncn> does anyone use realplayer listen to Internet radio (like BBC)? I open the website (bbc.co.uk/radio4), but realplayer (plugin) has no sound.!
[10:13] <matahari> and it awaits commands from me
[10:13] <bombero> hi friends, how to delete apt-get cache (/var) ?
[10:13] <BringZten> Hi
[10:13] <Asc> hoehaver: It sounds like the part of the drive you said was unpartitioned space, is unpartitioned
[10:13] <matahari> (initramfs) _
[10:13] <imbrandon> bombero, apt-get clean and apt-get autoclean
[10:13] <Asc> hoehaver: You need to make a partition on said space before you can use it.
[10:13] <BringZten> I love ubuntu dont get me wrong, I'm just concerned about linux cuz Vista (im not a microsoft fan) is really really freaking good.
[10:13] <hoehaver> well...i thought i partitioned it
[10:13] <bombero> imbrandon, thanx
[10:13] <hoehaver> i clicked on the unalocated space...clicked new
[10:14] <hoehaver> specified a sice for swap and ext3
[10:14] <hoehaver> and clicked next...
[10:14] <ISOLATEDViRuS> my system wont detect when my ipod is connected and auto mount, how do i mount it?
[10:14] <hoehaver> sice=size***
[10:15] <Caplain> distcc is indicating that my system is i486 and not i686
[10:15] <Asc> hoehaver: Ehh, I don't have any experience with the graphical installer.
[10:15] <Caplain> how do i fix that?
[10:15] <eurytus> Ok, I get it to sort of boot. It loads vmlinuz and initrd.gz and goes to a graphic saying "Loading essential drivers" and "mounting root file system." It stalls for a while, then the graphic disappears and I see the screen I was at before with text about booting.
[10:15] <hoehaver> Asc i understand
[10:15] <AbortD> can i uninstall gnome after i installed kde?
[10:15] <hoehaver> thanks thou
[10:16] <hoehaver> isnt is sudo apt-get remove gnome
[10:16] <hoehaver> or gnome-common
[10:16] <hoehaver> it*
[10:16] <AbortD> will i keep everything i installed in gaim?
[10:16] <AbortD> like the codecs and such
[10:18] <marshall> how do you know if you have a dual core processor if you arent running a kernel hat supports it?
[10:18] <hoehaver> abortD i think so
[10:18] <HedgeMage> marshall: look at the teeny-tiny print on the proc ;)
[10:18] <matahari> marshall: do you have access to the kernel-source?
[10:18] <cpk2> trying to use the live cd on my desktop, but can only seem to get working video in a terminal other than 7... using an nvidia card
[10:18] <hoehaver> you will only be uninstalling gnome.....but dont hold me to it
[10:19] <cpk2> not really sure what to do to pin point the problem and figure out a fix
[10:19] <BringZten> What are your thoughts on vista?
[10:19] <Asc> Why uninstall gnome?  Unless you're REALLY short on disk space....
[10:20] <MugginsM> I think Vista looks good, it's nice to see MS trying to get into the operating system market.
[10:20] <MugginsM> but they've still got some learning to go before they catch up with real OS's :0
[10:20] <Asc> Heh.
[10:20] <htims> hello, gnome-settings-daemon seems to hang on my system when starting gnome for one special user. others work fine -- i'm also seeing a zombie xrdb prozess spawned by gnome-settings-daemon.. can someone give me a hint how to fix this?
[10:21] <Asc> (at some point, somebody will say to take this to #ubuntu-offtopic, but hey)
[10:21] <Sasuke> me again :P
[10:21] <Sasuke> when i open up Evolution Mail i get a error and it triples all of my emails
[10:22] <ISOLATEDViRuS> my system wont detect when my ipod is connected and auto mount, how do i mount it?
[10:22] <Sasuke> so i get like 4298 unread emails
[10:22] <Sasuke> anyone know hoow to fix that?
[10:22] <MugginsM> nuts. I gotta go reboot into OSX because Adobe doesn't support Linux and I want to order pizza :)
[10:22] <ISOLATEDViRuS> isnt adobe bricks of mud...
[10:22] <glick> howdy
[10:22] <ISOLATEDViRuS> hiya
[10:23] <glick> yay! i finally learned how to build my own .deb packages
[10:23] <ISOLATEDViRuS> cool.. i guess <_<
[10:23] <Sasuke> Error while Synchronising "Inbox".
[10:23] <Sasuke> Summary and folder mismatch, even after a sync
[10:23] <glick> but i think the debian maintainers guide is MUCH clearer and more helpful then the ubuntu packaging guide
[10:24] <Sasuke> anyone know how to fix that problem?
[10:24] <AbortD> can someone help me uninstall gnome?
[10:25] <zaggynl> Hi, I seem to have UDMA2 enabled on my burner, but if I try to burn with nautilus-cd-burner, it takes 22 minutes to burn a 4.7 gb dvd :/
[10:26] <Aaroncn> does anyone use realplayer listen to Internet radio (like BBC)? I open the website (bbc.co.uk/radio4), but realplayer (plugin) has no sound.!
[10:27] <slowz> AbortD, i think apt-get remove gnome* --purge would remove gnome
[10:28] <AbortD> hope this works good
[10:28] <AbortD> hope it doesnt hurt kde
[10:28] <cpk2> AbortD: there might be some apps you use in kde that use gtk
[10:28] <AbortD> ...
[10:28] <slowz> that... im not sure about neither
[10:29] <AbortD> what if i reinstalled kde?
[10:29] <Asc_> If you don't need to remove gnome, I'd recommend leaving it....
[10:29] <Sasuke> anyone get an errors with Evolution Mail like
[10:29] <AbortD> i need to
[10:29] <cpk2> AbortD: it has nothing to do with installing kde, if you are using an app that requires gtk you might end up breaking it
[10:29] <Sasuke> why
[10:30] <AbortD> space
[10:30] <glick> apt-get uninstall gnome-desktop?
[10:31] <kuja> How's the performance of Xgl/Compiz on a 2.2Ghz?
[10:31] <johns^> kuja: I run it on an AMD XP 2200+ and it runs fine
[10:31] <kuja> No slowdowns?
[10:31] <kuja> And you get the smoothness?
[10:31] <johns^> not really, depending on how much eyecande you want
[10:31] <kuja> On a 64MB graphics acrd
[10:32] <Raines> I got a problem, when trying to install madwifi it gives me this error build is missing, please set KERNELPATH.  Stop. Any idea how to fix it?
[10:32] <ubuntu> whats the difference on the live cd between normal graphics mode and safe graphics?
[10:32] <kuja> Also, anyway to automatically start xgl/compiz when booting into the livecd?
[10:33] <kuja> Create a symlink to X -> Xgl maybe? Unsure :S
[10:33] <slowz> Raines, that sounds like you dont have the kernel source installed
[10:33] <Raines> slowz, problably not :P
[10:34] <Raines> Whats a easy way to get the sources?
[10:36] <alfonsosk> how can i register my nick ?
[10:36] <cherubiel> Raines: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38972
[10:36] <oskude> ubuntu: i think the "safe graphics" mode should boot to 640x480 resolution with vesa driver... and the other would use the highest your monitor can and uses "right" drivers for your graphics chip...
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> alfonsosk: type /msg nickserv help register
[10:36] <Raines> cherubiel: thanks
[10:37] <alfonsosk> thx fyrestrtr
[10:37] <ubuntu> oskude: because trying to boot to normal i couldnt see anything on terminal 7 except static basically, yet the Xorg log looked fine, only thing that jumped out at me was a warning about V_bios
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> kuja: on my 2Ghz Centrino / 1 GB RAM / 64 MB video its smooth, but sometimes gets laggy.
[10:38] <ubuntu> oskude: would like to make sure this install is completely painless so dont want to jump right in when something might not work
[10:38] <oskude> ubuntu: and does the safemode work ?
[10:38] <ubuntu> oskude: yes, thats what I am in right now
[10:39] <kuja> fyrestrtr: Ok, thanks.
[10:39] <oskude> ubuntu: i assume thats a notebook ? what graphics chip ?
[10:39] <ubuntu> oskude: desktop with nvidia 6600
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> kuja: but this is probably more a fact that xgl is beta software, and I have a ATI video card (not-so-great drivers)
[10:40] <oskude> ubuntu: ok
[10:40] <ubuntu> oskude: oops forgot the log said something about vsync and hsync out of ddc range or something
[10:41] <oskude> ubuntu: oh, that could be the couse :)
[10:41] <eurytus> t.*
[10:42] <oskude> ubuntu: i solved such problems by reading the monitors manual and adding the correct h/v sync values to /etc/X11/xorg.conf (but i heard there are some "automatic" tools for this too...)
[10:42] <ubuntu> booted in safemode I am still getting the bad v_bios checksum so i guess that isnt causing any problems
[10:42] <ubuntu> oskude: dont think mine has a manual
[10:42] <oskude> ubuntu: mine neither, but the website of its manufacturer...
[10:42] <ubuntu> oskude: i will try to look it up then =)
[10:44] <oskude> ubuntu: you could allso read abit here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:44] <johns^> kuja: you need to edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom
[10:44] <johns^> so Xgl starts
[10:44] <johns^> and then add compiz-start to your session with the session editor
[10:45] <oskude> ubuntu: but this doesnt work here "sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange"
[10:45] <ubuntu> i cant remember if it was exactly ddc or not, i really should write these things down =X
[10:46] <ubuntu> oh ok i see it was ddc
[10:47] <ubuntu> oskude: yeah that gives me nothing as well
[10:49] <oskude> ubuntu: fyi: i got  HorizSync 30-60     VertRefresh 50-75    for a noname monitor at 1024x768x85hz
[10:50] <jensen_> why does Firefox slow down after a whole day of surfing?
[10:50] <oskude> jensen_: memory full ? swap on slow hd ?
[10:50] <muhammad> heey i have a technical problem with firefox the probelm when the page contains pictures have resolution more than 1024X768 i miss the horizontal scrollbar and had to wide the page manually any suggestions ?
[10:50] <jensen_> thanks oskude
[10:51] <ubuntu> on this pdf i am reading it says hfreq at 30-90 and vfreq at 50-160
[10:51] <jensen_> so do i just refresh the page or increase the swap?
[10:51] <mcphail> jensen_: firefox is said to have a lot of memory leaks. Close the app and reopen
[10:51] <oskude> jensen_: start would be type "free -m" on terminal to see how much mem you got free
[10:51] <jensen_> know i know what the memory leaks mean. show web browsing
[10:52] <jensen_> slow web browsing i mean
[10:52] <ubuntu> oskude: the bummer is the manual says the monitor supports ddc =(
[10:52] <ubuntu> oskude: i am assuming i can still write to Xorg with the live cd?
[10:52] <oskude> jensen_: slow usage of firefox or pages render slowly ? there could be many reasons...
[10:53] <oskude> ubuntu: never done that, you gotta try
[10:53] <jensen_> free -m says i have total 250 used 240 free 10
[10:53] <jensen_> the mouse moves with a stop and go motion when I drag it across the page.
[10:54] <jensen_> nothing to do with the render of the page
[10:54] <oskude> jensen_: hmm, and only in firefox or allso other apps ?
[10:54] <ubuntu> oskude: well i am off thanks for the help!
[10:54] <oskude> jensen_: hows the cpu usage ? got many js/flash animations going on ?
[10:54] <jensen_> so far only on firefox
[10:54] <robertttt> hello all
[10:54] <jensen_> nope just a plain html with pictures. morning ok evening slow
[10:55] <oskude> jensen_: hmm, and restarting fx doesnt help ?
[10:57] <jensen_> restarting has helped. thanks again oskude
[10:57] <mcphail> jensen_: the new firefox betas as supposed to correct some of the leaks.
[10:57] <zaggynl> Anyone good with burning DVD's in Linux? I seem to be only able to burn at 2.5x speed :<
[10:57] <zaggynl> I already forced it into 32 bit transfer mode and udma2
[10:57] <jensen_> has anyone used swiftfox?
[10:58] <oskude> zaggynl: and your burner can 100% burn faster ? (i had no problems buring with mine at 8x)
[10:58] <zaggynl> oskude, this is my burner: http://www.sw.nec.co.jp/products/optical/en/ND-3540A/index.shtml
[10:58] <oskude> zaggynl: did you try k3b ? (burning tool)
[10:58] <zaggynl> I tried the nautilus burner, works, but slow, I tried gnome baker, didn't work at all (fail, i/o error), k3b I'm using now, runs at 2.5x speed
[10:59] <zaggynl> and the fifo buffer jumps up and down
[10:59] <zaggynl> device buffer: no info
[10:59] <jensen_> mcphail, will look out for the beta. thought that the 2.0 was for windows only
[10:59] <oskude> zaggynl: hmm, no idea, sorry...
[10:59] <zaggynl> np :P
[11:00] <Zibii> hi
[11:01] <mcphail> zaggynl: could it be a DMA issue?
[11:01] <zaggynl> mcphail, I forced it into udma2
[11:02] <Zibii> anyone could give me a hint what (if anything) could I use instead of #warning (gcc) to get its argument evaluated? Recently i.e. #warning FOO (when FOO is #define'd) just shows "FOO" while I'd need to see its value
[11:02] <oskude> zaggynl: does "hdparm /dev/hdX" show "using_dma    =  1 (on)" ? (where X is your dvd drive)
[11:02] <zaggynl> hdparm of my burner: http://pastebin.com/795957
[11:02] <Raines> bah, when doing modprobe ath_pci I get this error FATAL: Error inserting ath_pci (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/net/ath_pci.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter has anyone tackled this error?
[11:03] <MDCore> hey all. what is the difference between removing and purging a package ?
[11:03] <oskude> MDCore: purge removes config files too
[11:03] <MDCore> thanks!
[11:03] <MDCore> that makes sense.
[11:04] <zaggynl> also, when burning using k3b, I see the FIFO buffer go up and down
[11:05] <orbin> zaggynl: hdparm -d would be more relevaqnt
[11:05] <zaggynl> ah okay
[11:05] <zaggynl> ..
[11:05] <zaggynl> it's not using udma
[11:05] <orbin> is it on or off?
[11:05] <orbin> try enabling it .... hdparm -d1
[11:06] <zaggynl> don't know if that's good thing to do whilst burning but wth
[11:06] <orbin> yeah, i'd wait
[11:06] <THX-1138> Do burners use io32_support - What about -W Write Caching? The interrupt mask?
[11:06] <orbin> didn't know you had something using it
[11:06] <Sasuke> gtg
[11:06] <zaggynl> oh, I get a neat permission denied
[11:07] <mcphail> zaggynl: use sudo
[11:07] <oskude> zaggynl: heres something i found with google... http://www.mail-archive.com/cdwrite@other.debian.org/msg09698.html
[11:07] <mcphail> zaggynl: i have a similar burner and only get good results by setting dms
[11:07] <mcphail> dma
[11:07] <agamoto> Hello from indonesia!
[11:07] <zaggynl> thanks people :o
[11:07] <zaggynl> heh k3b just froze or something
[11:07] <THX-1138> Hello
[11:07] <oskude> zaggynl: and if this isnt correct "The problem now has been identified and there will be a workaround soon." mail them ;)
[11:07] <THX-1138> Welcome to #ubuntu :)
[11:08] <agamoto> Anyone else here from ID?
[11:08] <THX-1138> Idaho? - no, just kidding.
[11:08] <jensen_> wonder what's taking up my FREE memory. Is there a program to see what's running?
[11:08] <acidjames> whats ID ?
[11:08] <orbin> zaggynl: probably should have waited till it wasn't in use then
[11:08] <jensen_> Indonesia
[11:09] <agamoto> :)
[11:09] <zaggynl> orbin, oh well I've got plenty of dvdrs atm
[11:09] <orbin> jensen_: gnome-system-monitor works fine for me
[11:09] <acidjames> so they have internet in indonesia :D
[11:09] <THX-1138> jensen_ - google "linux swappiness" - it's caching recemtly used info for lightening fast retrieval.
[11:09] <jensen_> how do we access that orbin?
[11:09] <agamoto> Apa kabar! yes, we do, but it's not very good. :)
[11:09] <zaggynl> ok dma is on, time to test another dvd
[11:09] <orbin> jensen_: should be in the system menu or you can run it
[11:09] <acidjames> what kind of internets do you have agamoto , 56K ?
[11:10] <oskude> zaggynl: was it off ?
[11:10] <zaggynl> oskude, it was off again yeah
[11:10] <agamoto> We have DSL here, but the government controls it and they deliberately throttle it.
[11:10] <oskude> zaggynl: iirc, it wont be saved when you set it with hdparm... but for got the solution for permanent :/
[11:10] <agamoto> I pay $250 USD a month for 384kb/s dl 64kb/s up
[11:11] <THX-1138> easier to reset a file in ram than fetch it from a mechanical device that is far far away on the data bus. - proll'y take two bus tokens and a transfer ticket.
[11:11] <zaggynl> oskude, whoa, I get an I/O error from k3b now
[11:11] <zaggynl> and dma is off again
[11:11] <zaggynl> I've had the exact same in windows, it would give a bunch of errors and then put it at PIO
[11:11] <jensen_> THX-1138 there's nothing running but the terminal and the xchat which i'm on but still it show only 3 out of 250 mb as free
[11:11] <agamoto> I was hoping I could find someone here from Indonesia that might have the latest release on DVD that I could get from them locally. ;(
[11:12] <oskude> zaggynl: hmm, maybe new firmware ?
[11:12] <zaggynl> I haven't used any before, and I did work for a long time in windows
[11:12] <THX-1138> /etc/hadpams.conf is the file you want for editing. - please be careful and edit responsibly. - no need for a designated driver but be careful okay?
[11:12] <zaggynl> *it did work
[11:12] <mcphail> jensen_: linux tries to fill ram by default
[11:12] <mcphail> (well,almost)
[11:12] <mjr> jensen_, ram not used is ram wasted
[11:13] <jensen_> Am from Malaysia and we pay about USD 25 per month for 1 Mb/s dl
[11:13] <zaggynl> that's what I love about linux, doesn't use swap unless really needed, which is very very fast
[11:13] <orbin> THX-1138: lol, bad typo
[11:13] <MDCore> jensen_: how do you know how much ram is in use ? (i.e. what command are you using )
[11:13] <agamoto> yes, I love going to KL. Great Internet there. :)
[11:13] <oskude> zaggynl: so it does work upto 16x under on ms-software ?
[11:13] <THX-1138> orbin - Gah! - nice catch! - Thank You.
[11:13] <jensen_> just learnt the free -m from oksude
[11:14] <orbin> THX-1138: no worries
[11:14] <zaggynl> oskude, yes, but I have to do registry hacks and programs to force it into udma2 and keep it that way, and if I burn then, it uses every available cpu/ram resource it has
[11:14] <acidjames> $250 for 386kbs DSL agamoto, but that for professional ?
[11:14] <oskude> zaggynl: :/ sounds like a nice hardware... not ;)
[11:14] <agamoto> Unlimited bandwidth package from Telkom, the local... Telcom. :)
[11:14] <zaggynl> :P
[11:15] <agamoto> They suck.
[11:15] <alluc> is it good english to write "Your Profile" for "Your Details" ?
[11:15] <MDCore> agamoto: you're from sa ?
[11:15] <THX-1138> jensen_ - We only just met. but can i ask a favor of you?  google "linux swappiness" - It'll make me look smart and i am suffering from low self-esteem.
[11:15] <agamoto> Indonesia.
[11:15] <alluc> about addresses, name...
[11:15] <alluc> phone number
[11:15] <alluc> ...
[11:15] <MDCore> ah.. creepy..  very similar situation :)
[11:16] <NineTeen67Comet> "little" question .. How can I logoff another user that's logged into my computer (my wife was logged in, I selected "switch user" and now I would like to log her out w/out logging off myself ..
[11:16] <jensen_> THX-1138 - am googling it now
[11:16] <NET||abuse> hehe, just been chatting with people in my lug, we think there should be a "geek" option at install time for ubuntu, which would install geek tools, like nmap, nmapfe ethereal etc. etc.
[11:17] <NineTeen67Comet> NET||abuse: and ssh be default .. lol
[11:17] <jensen_> google gave me this - http://kerneltrap.org/node/3000
[11:17] <NET||abuse> NineTeen67Comet, sshd?
[11:17] <NET||abuse> yeh
[11:17] <mcphail> NineTeen67Comet: try killing her shell?
[11:17] <orbin> alluc: no, in that context it's fine ... but if you go around asking people what their profile is, you might get blank stares
[11:17] <NineTeen67Comet> NET||abuse: yep .. I can't believe it isn't installed by default as it is ..
[11:18] <NET||abuse> well no, i can understand the idea,,,
[11:18] <NET||abuse> sshd is a server,, ubuntu is geared as a desktop
[11:18] <NET||abuse> unless you go with server option
[11:18] <NET||abuse> so there's a reason
[11:18] <NET||abuse> but administrator tools should probbably included, like network probes and remote administration utilities etc
[11:18] <NineTeen67Comet> NET||abuse: but even as a desktop I use sshd to get in there and work on it, say if I'm installing on the wifes computer, I'll get it going and use ssh to finish up ..
[11:18] <NET||abuse> if you select secial "geek" check box ;
[11:18] <NET||abuse> :)
[11:18] <THX-1138> jensen see the thingy about  sysctl -w vm.swappiness=10 - nifty
[11:19] <NineTeen67Comet> brb .. gotta boot the wife off this box ..
[11:19] <NET||abuse> :p
[11:19] <alluc> orbin: thanks, it's same as in French then, but we don't use "details", that's why I was wondering
[11:20] <alluc> orbin: not with this meaning at least
[11:21] <acidjames> how can you afford that agamoto ?
[11:21] <agamoto> It's not easy. :)
[11:22] <THX-1138> NEVER EVER  run this commad  "cat /proc/cpuinfo"   -    It'll chain you to google for a week at least....
[11:22] <jensen_> THX-1138 nope i cannot find it. is that article still valid since it was written in 2004?
[11:22] <frogzoo> THX-1138: lshw
[11:22] <agamoto> I'm actually here in the hopes of finding someone to send a edubuntu DVD to me, at my expense of course.
[11:22] <useruser> how can i run emacs from a terminal and get the correct icon showing up in the gnome taskbar?
[11:23] <THX-1138> Frogzoo - you have a dark side don't you? - ROFLMAO
[11:23] <useruser> also, is metacity scriptable?
[11:23] <acidjames> agamoto, you want it today ? coz it's free i think if you order it from ubuntu
[11:23] <cpk2> oskude: this is Ubuntu, the one with the video problems, changing the values in xorg didnt work =(
[11:23] <nrdb> I have been looking for an example on how to do a gnome notification icon but can't find any :( anyone know where to find one ?
[11:24] <oskude> cpk2: :( hmm... i prefer the old text mode installer anyway ;)
[11:24] <agamoto> yes, but I like to get my hands on it as soon as I can.
[11:24] <THX-1138> jensen_ - carefully peek at the settings in /etc/hdparm.conf     -  maybe make a backup first.
[11:24] <chemaja2> alright, does ANYBODY ELSE feel a bit uncomfortable installing non-debianised (ie. packaged in .deb, etc.) software, ie. VMware Server? Is there a .deb available for this that will allow for a *truly* clean uninstall, without relying on VMware's uninstall script?
[11:24] <jensen_> k thanks thx
[11:24] <agamoto> I'm afraid it will take forever through the regular mail system.
[11:24] <orbin> agamoto: no linux groups or universities offering them?
[11:25] <agamoto> This was my first stop.
[11:25] <frogzoo> chemaja2: vmware player & server are in the repos
[11:25] <test> hi, i need some help here. I need to mount a virtual disk onto my drive with an ISO image.
[11:25] <chemaja2> frogzoo, woah... /me checks
[11:25] <test> but i couldn't do it.
[11:25] <test> can anybody help me
[11:25] <agamoto> Thought I might get lucky and bump into someone here.
[11:25] <cpk2> oskude: I am assuming i can install in safe mode, but if I cant fix with the live cd will I be able to fix it after its installed?
[11:25] <termos> i have a sb live! card and an onboard one and ubuntu doesn't seem to want to play sound out of any of them, sometimes it works randomly but i don't know why and how. what could i be doing wrong?
[11:26] <test> ubuntu offers what clone software which functions like daemon tool ?
[11:26] <nrdb> test: you have an iso image you want to mount?
[11:26] <jazzrocker> useruser, you can use vim instead? :P
[11:26] <test> yes
[11:26] <test> it must function as a DISK
[11:26] <jensen_> agomoto have you gone to http://ubuntulinux.or.id/blog/ for a disk?
[11:26] <test> because the file won't read if it isnt a disk
[11:26] <agamoto> Cannot trust the mail system.
[11:26] <oskude> cpk2: everything is possible...
[11:27] <agamoto> and it will take too long.
[11:27] <agamoto> I'm impatient. :)
[11:27] <nrdb> test: try "mount -t iso9660 <filename> /media/<directory>"
[11:27] <test> it doesn't work with the .exe file
[11:27] <test> it says, please insert cd-rom
[11:27] <agamoto> Oh wait, that's an indonesian site. Hmmm.
[11:28] <nrdb> test: use "sudo mount ..."
[11:28] <cpk2> oskude: i would really prefer it to be painless though =P
[11:28] <nrdb> test: an exe file would indicate a windows program ?
[11:29] <test> i am using wine.
[11:29] <test> :D
[11:29] <test> i tried using sudo mount to /media/iso
[11:29] <test> it didn't work.
[11:29] <jensen_> agamoto here's the official one http://ubuntu-id.org/
[11:29] <chemaja2> frogzoo, umm... WHICH repo? i can't find it in dapper (main, restricted, universe), dapper-updates (main, restricted) or dapper-backports (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) -- searching via an `aptitude update; aptitude search vmware' -- all i can see is the xorg server for it
[11:29] <oskude> cpk2: well, there are many hardware manufacturers that keep their specifications secret to open source projects...
[11:29] <Ignite_> test, Sorry I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to do, but if it's mounting an ISO image just do "sudo mount -o loop <filename> <mount point>". :-)
[11:30] <strk> is ubuntu network install possible ? (from another distro, with an available 40Gb partition)
[11:30] <agamoto> jensen, you're awesome. Thanks!
[11:30] <nrdb> test: have you tried mounting to "~/.wine/drive_d"
[11:30] <frogzoo> !info vmware-player
[11:30] <ubotu> vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.1-4 (dapper), package size 11563 kB, installed size 31248 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[11:31] <Ignite_> !info qemu
[11:31] <chemaja2> !info vmware-server
[11:31] <ubotu> qemu: fast processor emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2602 kB, installed size 7360 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 powerpc alpha sparc arm s390)
[11:31] <ubotu> Package vmware-server does not exist in any distro I know
[11:31] <Ignite_> :)
[11:31] <chemaja2> :(
[11:31] <frogzoo> chemaja2: player only apparently
[11:31] <sc0tty> hello
[11:31] <chemaja2> frogzoo, funny that i didn't see it listed >:(
[11:31] <test> nope, i will try now
[11:32] <Ignite_> strk, try the ``Alternate Install" CD
[11:32] <oskude> strk: there are scripts to install debian remotely (like over ssh) but dunno if theres one for ubuntu...
[11:32] <chemaja2> frogzoo, vmware server is a nasty 99KB script that runs as root -- I *hate* bigass scripts that run as root.
[11:32] <frogzoo> Ignite_: kqemu is fastier
[11:32] <chemaja2> :(
[11:32] <chemaja2> oh well, time to learn how do jail stuff
[11:33] <Ignite_> frogzoo, isn't kqemu just a GUI frontend to qemu? or does that relate the when qemu complains about something or other relating the K when I run it?
[11:34] <kalif> strk: can you do PXE-boot?
[11:34] <test> no luck dude, same problem ...
[11:34] <test> any virtual clone emulator available for linux ???
[11:34] <nrdb> test: you might need to put a link in "~/.wine/dosdevices" as well
[11:34] <Ignite_> frogzoo, oh, I've just looked into it, kqemu is proprietary, I wouldn't recommend it's usage.
[11:34] <test> how can i do that nrdb?
[11:34] <mcphail> Ignite_: kqemu is a non-free virtualisation module for qemu
[11:34] <Ignite_> mcphail, yeah I've just looked into it.
[11:34] <Ignite_> :-)
[11:35] <mcphail> Ignite_: sorry - crossposted!
[11:35] <infidel> anyone use samba? can you give me a hand setting up a share?
[11:35] <frogzoo> Ignite_: nope - it's a proprietary kernel driver that allows much faster emulation - it's as good as a real cpu imo
[11:35] <nrdb> test: cd "~/.wine/dosdevices"
[11:35] <test> As in, how can i add a link?
[11:35] <test> sorry i am a newbie.
[11:35] <kalif> chemaja2: just download the tar.gz from vmware
[11:35] <nrdb> test: "ln -s ../drive_d d:"
[11:35] <jensen_> anyone running ubuntu on a core 2 duo processor?
[11:35] <Ignite_> frogzoo, I wasn't recommending not using it for any quality purposes, I was recommending not using it for moral purposes.
[11:35] <test> ok, gimme a sec
[11:36] <alleyoopster> hi everyone
[11:36] <test> geez, still no luck.
[11:36] <chemaja2> kalif, already done... and i'm looking at the install script and going "i have *no* way of quickly verifying what this is going to do to my clean clean system"
[11:36] <test> it seems that i must somehow tweak the system such that they recognise drive_d as the pri. drive.
[11:36] <nrdb> test: got to go now dinner, bye
[11:37] <alleyoopster> I am looking for a little help finding a dependency for rubyripper. It is libfreedb-ruby. Anyone know where I can get this from? thanks
[11:37] <Ignite_> frogzoo, it occours to me that Xen is Free Software (as in freedom), maybe that would be of use to you if you require faster virtualisation. :-)
[11:37] <oskude> alleyoopster: you could try search here http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[11:38] <danage> hey... anybody know... when's the beta release for edgy eft?
[11:38] <Ignite_> Isn't it already out?
[11:38] <Ignite_> The beta that is.
[11:38] <danage> knot 3 i saw
[11:39] <Ignite_> Oh sorry, I must be mistaken. :-)
[11:39] <alleyoopster> oskude: yeah tried there, also tried rarewares and google and hydrogen
[11:39] <danage> i read it's scheduled for today and i dont wanna download knot 3 if the beta is coming out any minute
[11:39] <jensen_> can we upgrade the OpenOffice via apt-get as well?
[11:40] <oskude> alleyoopster: if there aint any ubuntu package for it, you may have to compile it your self...
[11:40] <Ignite_> jensen_, as long as you install software via the package manager you can update it via apt yes.
[11:40] <alleyoopster> that's no problem if I could find the source
[11:40] <danage> anybody? beta release?
[11:41] <oskude> alleyoopster: consult the manual of the software you want to use (or their chat/list/forum)
[11:41] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guys i downloaded the w32codes. waht should i use to play WMV files?
[11:41] <scrp> !multimedia
[11:41] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[11:41] <alleyoopster> oskude: yeah, I have, it is listed as a dependency, but no more info. I'll try posting on there forum. Thanks for your input
[11:41] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> what should i use to play WMV specifically? cant get them to work!
[11:41] <Ignite_> alleyoopster, see apt-get.org you should be able to search for a repo that has the package you want.
[11:42] <Ignite_> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, Totem
[11:42] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> doesnt worK! i have downlaoded the win32codecs. still doesnt work
[11:42] <oskude> alleyoopster: what package are you installing and from where ?
[11:42] <jensen_> but the OpenOffice came with Ubuntu Breezy so not sure if that can be updated.
[11:42] <oskude> who asked remote install, googles first result was this http://blog.nanorails.com/articles/2006/07/01/remote-ubuntu-dapper-drake-install
[11:43] <oskude> !work
[11:43] <alleyoopster> oskude: http://rubyforge.org/frs/?group_id=1284&release_id=6293
[11:43] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[11:43] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> !WMV
[11:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:43] <alleyoopster> oskude: one sec I'll find the deb for it
[11:43] <oskude> alleyoopster: well, thats not from ubuntu repository, so your on your own...
[11:44] <alleyoopster> oskude: the deb is http://www.rarewares.org/debian/packages/unstable/rubyripper_0.2-0rarewares1_i386.deb
[11:45] <oskude> alleyoopster: hmm, thats for debian ?
[11:45] <alleyoopster> oskude: yes it is
[11:45] <oskude> alleyoopster: and your using ubuntu ?
[11:45] <alleyoopster> oskude: yes I am
[11:45] <danage> nobody know? beta release? how do i find out?
[11:45] <oskude> alleyoopster: so you know that wont (mostly) work
[11:46] <scrp> why is port 631 open by default on my Ubuntu ?
[11:46] <alleyoopster> oskude: well mostly debian files will work, ubuntu is based on debian after all
[11:46] <oskude> alleyoopster: ubuntu != dapper, but ubuntu is based on debian...
[11:46] <oskude> alleyoopster: there are many distros based on debian... still they may have different libraray versions = wont work
[11:46] <oskude> scrp: i think its cups (printing services)
[11:46] <frogzoo> scrp: printer admin
[11:47] <frogzoo> scrp: point your browser at it
[11:47] <oskude> alleyoopster: as you saw, it wants a library thats not in ubuntu, got it ?
[11:47] <alleyoopster> oskude: I have installed many packages that are deb and they do work just fine, some don't but mostly they work
[11:47] <oskude> alleyoopster: well, then you had luck
[11:48] <frogzoo> alleyoopster: debian debs are only a last resort, & you still need to know what you're doing
[11:49] <THX-1138> How do you verify an iso image file *burned* to  cd/dvd? - Did the image make it to disk without errors?
[11:49] <scrp> how do i point my browswer at it ?
[11:49] <frogzoo> THX-1138: 'sudo dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/tmp/xxx bs=1000000 ; diff /tmp/xxx blah.iso'
[11:50] <frogzoo> THX-1138: however k3b can do this for you
[11:50] <oskude> i wonder if you can do md5sum on cd/dvd ?
[11:50] <scrp> because, i would think any open port is a security risk
[11:50] <frogzoo> oskude: sure
[11:50] <THX-1138> Frogzoo - Thank You. (though don't think for i moment i have forgiven you for that lshw command thing. - going to take days to sort it out. - wide grin)
[11:51] <oskude> scrp: yup, thats called paranoia, i use it all the time ;) you can close that one with "sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys stop"
[11:51] <alleyoopster> frogzoo: sure if there is an ubuntu package available I would go for that and you do need to be careful of dependencies
[11:52] <gilesw> http://iphitus.loudas.com/beyond.html
[11:52] <oskude> alleyoopster: and please look that its for your flavor of ubuntu (hoary/dapper) too
[11:52] <frogzoo> alleyoopster: yep, so it's best not to mention it where newbs will see it
[11:52] <gilesw> does anyone use this kernel patch set?
[11:52] <scrp> oskude: so is that like a print server?
[11:52] <frogzoo> scrp: indeed
[11:52] <alleyoopster> frogzoo: but really I have used a quite a few debs and they have been running fine through breezy and dapper
[11:52] <scrp> oskude: will init.d/cupsys stop prevent it from running on bootup?
[11:53] <oskude> scrp: dunno, but i doubt
[11:53] <alleyoopster> frogzoo: sure point taken
[11:53] <scrp> and why did a print server get installed by default lol
[11:53] <oskude> scrp: cause the most people want to print, i assume...
[11:54] <scrp> should at least filter the port to localhost
[11:54] <frogzoo> scrp: people can only connect to 631 from localhost - it's pretty safe by default
[11:54] <oskude> scrp: its open to outside ?
[11:54] <scrp> oskude: i just nmaped myself
[11:54] <frogzoo> indeed it isn't
[11:55] <oskude> scrp: nmap localhost ?
[11:55] <wobster> Hi everyone. I have a desktop setting for DPI of 75 to get reasonble results. Unfortunately, when I adjust the fonts with System->Fonts only the changing of the window-titlebar fontsize has an effect. Do I have to generate or install some special 75dpi package?
[11:55] <scrp> im behind an office firewall so i cant nmap myself from the net
[11:55] <oskude> scrp: try nmap from another pc...
[11:55] <frogzoo> scrp: google 'shields up'
[11:55] <scrp> however, i am a little interested in finding out whats wrong with my graphics
[11:57] <scrp> xserver-xorg-driver-nv
[11:57] <scrp> is this a good idea?
[11:58] <jojoman02> ubuntu firefox poll: --> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267066
[11:58] <scrp> when im booting up my Ubuntu my graphics go fubar just before booting X, also all my consoles are blank when trying to switch to consoles from X...and, when shutting down after X disappears i have nothing but a blank screen waiting for the computer to shut down
[11:58] <Seveas> jojoman02, don't spam
[11:59] <jojoman02> Seveas: sorry, just wanted users to post their opinion, can't have a poll w/o users...
[11:59] <Seveas> jojoman02, this is a *support* channel, not a discussion channel
[11:59] <jojoman02> Seveas: understood...
[12:00] <SpComb> where's the discussion channel then?
[12:00] <Seveas> SpComb, #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:00] <SpComb> discussion about ubuntu?
[12:00] <Seveas> yes
[12:00] <SpComb> imo, #ubuntu should be discussion and #ubuntu-support support if you wanted to seperate them
[12:01] <Die> Hi I'm having trouble adding repositories... I need ones to play AVI and Xvid files.
[12:01] <Die> can anyone help?
[12:01] <Seveas> Die, what's the problem?
[12:01] <scrp> !multimedia > die
[12:01] <Corporal_Dirge> Anyone have issues with swf files crashing Nautilus?
[12:01] <scrp> brb restarting X
[12:02] <Die> I read on ubuntu guide that I need win32 codec... but I cant find it.
[12:02] <useruser> jazzrocker: could do
[12:02] <useruser> jazzrocker: but i still don't know how to make the icons work
[12:02] <jazzrocker> useruser, hehehe. the vim icon doesn't show up in your taskbar?
[12:02] <frogzoo> !codecs
[12:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:02] <Seveas> die: http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/dists/dapper-seveas/extras
[12:02] <kalif> chemaja2: VMware Server  won't do much to your system
[12:02] <jazzrocker> useruser, are you gnome?
[12:02] <useruser> jazzrocker: not when i run it from a terminal
[12:02] <chemaja2> kalif, how do you know
[12:02] <useruser> jazzrocker: i'm using it, yes
[12:02] <jazzrocker> oh right
[12:03] <useruser> jazzrocker: actually vim is a terminal app for me :P
[12:03] <kalif> chemaja2: I use it every day
[12:03] <Die> Not Found
[12:03] <Die> The requested URL /dists/dapper-seveas/extras was not found on this server.
[12:03] <Die> Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
[12:03] <Die> OHS-HTTPd/1.1.6 Server at seveas.theplayboymansion.net Port 80
[12:03] <jazzrocker> useruser, well yes vim is, gvim is not
[12:03] <jazzrocker> useruser, why not use gvim?
[12:03] <kalif> chemaja2: it'll install some files, but there's an uninstall script that actually works :)
[12:03] <chemaja2> kalif, ...but how do you actually know
[12:03] <jazzrocker> useruser, most cli apps do not have an icon... e.g. do you want an icon for ls too?
[12:04] <kalif> chemaja2: know what?
[12:04] <Seveas> die: http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/dists/dapper-seveas/extras
[12:04] <Seveas> (missed part of it ;))
[12:04] <useruser> jazzrocker: no, but i want an icon for gvim, for example
[12:04] <kalif> chemaja2: it doesn't change anything if that's your question
[12:04] <useruser> jazzrocker: or actually for emacs :P
[12:04] <jazzrocker> useruser, gvim does have an icon... run it, find out
[12:04] <chemaja2> kalif, that it wont "do much to your system" and that it "actually works" to uninstall
[12:04] <useruser> jazzrocker: i bet it doesn't work if i type gvim & in an xterm tho
[12:04] <jazzrocker> useruser, xemacs should also have an icon in the taskbar when you run it
[12:04] <chemaja2> kalif, yea, i believe you, but i'm asking how you can be sure
[12:04] <kalif> chemaja2: it's just new files
[12:04] <jazzrocker> useruser, define "doesn't work"
[12:04] <chemaja2> ...
[12:04] <useruser> jazzrocker: not when i run it from a terminal
[12:05] <jazzrocker> useruser, if you type gvim in an xterm the gvim launches and gives the terminal back control
[12:05] <chemaja2> and you know this for sure how?
[12:05] <DavidVector> I am trying to figure out how to secure rsync on an internet server.  I've checked docs and web sites -- no joy.  Does anyone have experience with this?
[12:05] <jazzrocker> useruser, so the terminal is still the terminal and gvim is then gvim
[12:05] <Seveas> DavidVector, rsync over ssh
[12:05] <useruser> jazzrocker: i open an xterm, type emacs & and there's a generic icon for the emacs window
[12:05] <madmax> i'm having a problem with synaptic... i ran an update and it said tomboy 0.4.5 was available but after the update i still had 0.3.5. i ran synaptic and marked all upgrades but not got marked. then i went to tomboy and i marked it for upgrade and it did upgrade it (although now it's not working anymore). what am i doing wrong ?
[12:05] <Die> THANK YOU !
[12:05] <useruser> jazzrocker: otoh if i clicky clicky the emacs icon in the applications menu, i get the correct icon
[12:05] <useruser> jazzrocker: i like the terminal, so this is a pain
[12:06] <jazzrocker> useruser, you "like the terminal" yet the icons for it are a "pain" to you? so why not just forget about the icons?
[12:06] <useruser> jazzrocker: also i can't see how to run emacs-with-an-icon using a metacity shortcut key
[12:06] <oskude> DavidVector: these dont help ? http://www.google.com/search?q=secure+rsync&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
[12:06] <useruser> jazzrocker: because switching between 20 windows which all have the same icon is Hard
[12:06] <jazzrocker> useruser, real console users didn't have icons
[12:06] <jazzrocker> useruser, um, ever heard of screen?
[12:07] <useruser> jazzrocker: ergo, i am not a real console user
[12:07] <jazzrocker> useruser, ergo you should use gvim or xemacs
[12:07] <jazzrocker> useruser, and quit the fussing about "teriminal icons"
[12:07] <eurytus> I don't see anything on the WindowsDualBoot page about this, but does having two separate hard drives (with windows on one, Ubuntu on the other) complicate boot configuration at all?
[12:07] <useruser> jazzrocker: bah
[12:07] <kalif> chemaja2: it'll put new files in /usr/bin/ and other places, it doesn't change everyething, it's just a service like postfix. You can stop if you don't like it
[12:07] <DavidVector> Seveas: Yes, I do rsync over ssh. But rsync is also being used for backup on the local net of the machine, so I need to run it in daemon mode.  Although I have a "hosts allow", it seems to me I'm able to connect directly from the internet, as long as I use a username and password.
[12:07] <jazzrocker> useruser, seriously, CLI apps are not meant to have icons... that's part of why you use a gui
[12:07] <useruser> jazzrocker: i don't care about what i should do. point is there should be a way to launch an app from a terminal exactly like clicking the entry in the applications menu
[12:07] <useruser> jazzrocker: emacs is not just a cli app
[12:08] <useruser> jazzrocker: type emacs & in an xterm and see
[12:08] <jazzrocker> useruser, nor is gvim
[12:08] <chemaja2> kalif, that wasn't my question.
[12:08] <useruser> jazzrocker: this is not the point, anyway
[12:08] <jazzrocker> useruser, yes i'm well aware that default emacs has an X11 front end
[12:08] <Seveas> DavidVector, rsync over ssh is not restricted by "hosts allow"
[12:08] <jazzrocker> useruser, i used emacs for years
[12:08] <DavidVector> Seveas . . . testing . . .
[12:08] <chemaja2> kalif, i trust the repos, i don't trust 3rd party scripts.
[12:08] <kalif> chemaja2: oh....
[12:08] <chemaja2> kalif, at this point, i'd need to audit the pl script or find a way to jail it
[12:08] <useruser> jazzrocker: this is a real issue because I can't run apps from shell scripts and get icons
[12:09] <chemaja2> kalif, see my problem?
[12:09] <kalif> yep
[12:09] <chemaja2> k
[12:09] <useruser> jazzrocker: at least, some apps...
[12:09] <useruser> jazzrocker: for example, firefox gives me an icon when run from a terminal
[12:09] <jazzrocker> useruser, i don't think it's a real issue... i think you just think it's a real issue... i think if you change your wants these "problems" dissappear
[12:09] <kalif> chemaja2: do you need to run Windows as Virtual Machines?
[12:10] <jazzrocker> useruser, gvim gives me an icon when run from terminal
[12:10] <useruser> jazzrocker: naturally, if people weren't so damn hungry, we wouldn't have famines
[12:10] <jazzrocker> useruser, that's hardly a good analogy
[12:10] <useruser> jazzrocker: ok, i think it's a problem with the emacs package then
[12:10] <chemaja2> kalif, yea, but that's irrelevant
[12:10] <useruser> jazzrocker: i just want to know how to fix the package
[12:10] <useruser> jazzrocker: point is that i run emacs from a shell script so i can use the emacsclient goodness
[12:10] <jazzrocker> useruser, use gvim, that's how :) lol, sorry i don't know... hope you get it fixed.
[12:11] <useruser> jazzrocker: i don't like the vi editors
[12:11] <kalif> chemaja2: I was thinking Xen - but I believe Xen don't suppport windows yet
[12:11] <frogzoo> kalif: correct
[12:11] <chemaja2> kalif, nah cause of legal reasons.
[12:11] <kalif> yep
[12:12] <jazzrocker> useruser, vi sucks. vim rocks. gvim is just icing on the cake.
[12:12] <kalif> same outcome though :)
[12:12] <useruser> jazzrocker: no, editor wars suck
[12:12] <eurytus> In the partitioning part of the "alternate" mode of install, I get: "[!]  Partition disks File system is reporting the free space as 2194791 clusters, not 2194789 clusters. Warning!"
[12:13] <eurytus> my options are Ignore and Cancel and Go Back
[12:13] <eurytus> I've re-set the partitions for the disk in question several times and I always get that exact error
[12:14] <likewise> I do not understand where the ubuntu patches and configs are after I did an apt-get of the kernel.   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6.06
[12:14] <likewise> (whoops, wrong URL)
[12:16] <cpk2> is dedicating a 40gig hard drive to root and swap a bit overkill?
[12:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> depends what yoru doing
[12:16] <likewise> Rephrase: How can I get the Ubuntu-specific kernel patches installed (i.e. which package must I install)?
[12:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> but probably yes
[12:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> likewise, yes, you can get the patches
[12:17] <Asc_> Are you likely to use 40 gigs?
[12:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> turn on the source repositories, in there
[12:17] <oskude> cpk2: i havent used swap bigger than 1gb...
[12:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> 40 for root (asuming theres otehr partitions) is overkill
[12:17] <cpk2> swap will be 1 gig
[12:17] <cpk2> but the rest will be for /
[12:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> what are you splitting off from root?
[12:18] <cpk2> its just that its such a small drive i dont really see the need for splitting it into partitions
[12:18] <eurytus> it is overkill, but if you have a superfluous amount of storage don't worry about it
[12:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, 40 would be fine
[12:18] <oskude> cpk2: small ? i got 20mb and i got 2 ubuntus on it...
[12:18] <oskude>  *20gb
[12:19] <eurytus> you dual boot ubuntu and ubuntu?
[12:19] <oskude> dapper and edgy
[12:19] <eurytus> I'll never forgive them for not recognizing the majestic echidna
[12:19] <cpk2> well I will be using a 300gig for /home and plan on getting another drive around 400gigs soon
[12:19] <scrp> omg, when i change my xorg.conf (change the setting nv to nvidia) my graphics are faster (screensavers) but my computer is slower and also my consoles go blank
[12:19] <eurytus> can someone answer my question about clusters mismatch?
[12:20] <eurytus> namely: at the end of the partitioning part of the "alternate" mode of install, I get: "[!]  Partition disks File system is reporting the free space as 2194791 clusters, not 2194789 clusters. Warning!"
[12:20] <eurytus> I'm tempted to hit "Ignore"
[12:21] <DavidVector> seveas:  Thank you, I believe you're right.  You're a smart guy :-)
[12:21] <chendo> any idea how to get the special character line graphics to work under screen with ubuntu?
[12:21] <oskude> eurytus: hmm, maybe a "bad" hd, can you do fschk or something ?
[12:21] <WRFC_Rabbit> hi all
[12:22] <likewise> Where did the linux-tree package go??
[12:22] <Die> Hello again... I am having a major problem with my Mplayer... when I open a video file  it starts erroring out real bad    it keeps flashing between the video window and the error window and then freezes up... i couldn't even read what the error window said... anyone know anything about this?
[12:22] <eurytus> fschk = fsck?
[12:22] <oskude> eurytus: yup, sorry
[12:22] <Asc_> eurytus: it looks like a difference of two clusters... I'm tempted to vote for 'ignore'
[12:23] <eurytus> I would ignore it if it meant two fewer clusters
[12:23] <Die> anyone?
[12:23] <Die> please?
[12:23] <eurytus> but if it means two clusters that I will try to use and fail to write to?
[12:23] <frogzoo> eurytus: you didn't format /dev/hda instead of /dev/hda1 ?
[12:24] <eurytus> I had lots of partitions
[12:24] <likewise> Anyone know how I can rebuild the Ubuntu kernel? I cannot find the package that has the Ubuntu kernel patches?
[12:24] <WRFC_Rabbit> can i run my epson stylus photo rx420 printer on UBUNTU?
[12:24] <chendo> any idea how to get the special character line graphics to work under screen with ubuntu?like i'm trying to use iftop within screen and all i get is a with umlaut characters
[12:24] <eurytus> uh, it seemed to manage all of them fine except the fat32 one
[12:24] <eurytus> I didn't actually format anything, I was using the installers partition manager
[12:25] <eurytus> is it safe to use parted in the alternate console and skip that step?
[12:25] <orbin> !printer > WRFC_Rabbit
[12:26] <eurytus> fsck.ext3 /dev/sdb1 yields: /dev/sdb1: clean, 11/9781248 files, 339751/19537040 blocks
[12:26] <WRFC_Rabbit> yup
[12:26] <eurytus> that's after I format the whole drive with a single ext3 partition
[12:27] <WRFC_Rabbit> its a usb all in one printer
[12:27] <oskude> eurytus: hmm... never had that error, so cant think what to do, sorry...
[12:27] <orbin> WRFC_Rabbit: ubotu sent you some links
[12:28] <orbin> WRFC_Rabbit: check the hardware support one first
[12:28] <aqualuk> schei irc client sorry
[12:28] <aqualuk> also die hieen schon immer sda
[12:28] <aqualuk> fr was steht sda eigentlich
[12:29] <oskude> !de
[12:29] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:29] <Zaronn> hello all
[12:29] <aqualuk> ups sorry ;)
[12:30] <Zaronn> I just gto ubuntu CDs from my friend who downlaoded (he has fastrer connection) The server ISO has only 412MB while the desktop was 712.  does that mean he messed up the server download or is it usually that small?
[12:30] <cpk2> Zaronn: the server download doesnt come with a window manager
[12:31] <Zaronn> oh that explains it.
[12:31] <Zaronn> one more question, can I add "server" components to a desktop installation? :) i am too new ot use command line for server :S
[12:32] <WRFC_Rabbit> aaaw my printer is not on the list!
[12:32] <evrenkan86> how can i install ubuntu on macbook
[12:32] <cpk2> Zaronn: you mean like apache and whatnot? yes
[12:33] <Zaronn> cpk2:I want samba (file and domain server) and fire/proxy for my small office network
[12:34] <WRFC_Rabbit> does ubuntu come with a firewall??
[12:34] <elkbuntu> WRFC_Rabbit, try using the drivers for similar models, if there are any, sometimes you can strike lucky
[12:34] <elkbuntu> WRFC_Rabbit, yes, iptables, but you can install firestarter if you want to manage it graphically
[12:34] <frogzoo> Zaronn: server/desktop - it's all linux - you can run whatever
[12:34] <WRFC_Rabbit> HOW CAN I CONFIGURE IPTABLES?
[12:35] <frogzoo> WRFC_Rabbit: you know tcp/ip well ?
[12:35] <WRFC_Rabbit> nope
[12:35] <elkbuntu> WRFC_Rabbit, for starters, hit your caps-lock key. you can then install firestarter and configure your iptables through menus and buttons
[12:35] <frogzoo> WRFC_Rabbit: install firestarter thten
[12:35] <cpk2> WRFC_Rabbit: you can spend your whole life learning iptables
[12:35] <frogzoo> cpk2: lies!!!
[12:35] <frogzoo> iptables is amazing
[12:35] <htims> lol
[12:36] <jonsen> hello!
[12:36] <cpk2> oh its amazing alright
[12:36] <WRFC_Rabbit> how do i install firestarter?
[12:36] <Juhaz> those are not contradictory statements, amazing things usually take pretty long to master
[12:36] <cpk2> just tons of stuff though
[12:36] <cpk2> i mean look at the man
[12:36] <jonsen> i neeld help regarding driver support for areca raid controller
[12:36] <jonsen> does ubuntu tls has driver support for these controllers?
[12:36] <jonsen> where can i find a overview of the supported raid controllers?
[12:37] <frogzoo> cpk2: try tldp.org for easier intro
[12:37] <WRFC_Rabbit> do i use terminal to get firestarter?
[12:37] <frogzoo> WRFC_Rabbit: synaptic or whatever
[12:37] <htims> jonsen, use google with linux + youradaptermodel
[12:38] <Zaronn> whats a good remote control program?  From my windows machien I want to connect to my unbuntu machien xwindow
[12:38] <jonsen> htims: i need to know if the ubuntu cd installer has support for this controller
[12:38] <cpk2> frogzoo: i just used masquerade and havent touched iptables since then =)
[12:38] <WRFC_Rabbit> what command do i use to get firestarter in terminal?
[12:38] <WRFC_Rabbit> im a noob by the way!
[12:39] <cpk2> WRFC_Rabbit: did you already install firestarter?
[12:39] <unfknblvbl> LIES i'm a bigger n00b
[12:39] <WRFC_Rabbit> i dont think so
[12:39] <htims> jonsen, when its supported by the linux kernel then your chances are good -- did you try the livecd already?
[12:39] <cpk2> WRFC_Rabbit: and what do you need to configure that you need to set up a firewall?
[12:39] <frogzoo> WRFC_Rabbit: sudo apt-get install firestarter
[12:39] <WRFC_Rabbit> i only got ubuntu yesterday
[12:40] <cpk2> WRFC_Rabbit: there is no reason to set up it really then
[12:40] <cpk2> WRFC_Rabbit: unless you are trying to do ICS or something
[12:40] <unfknblvbl> that doesn't make me any less a n00b
[12:40] <frogzoo> yeh WRFC_Rabbit, it's only needed if you're running a lan really
[12:40] <jonsen> htims: the this is that i dont have the controllers right yes. i wwant to order them but only if they are supported
[12:40] <WRFC_Rabbit> amules kad is being firewalled
[12:41] <cpk2> WRFC_Rabbit: you will probably only cause more headaches for yourself
[12:41] <WRFC_Rabbit> i wanted to unblock it
[12:42] <Zaronn> what's the best way to remotely connect to my linux desktop from a windows computer?
[12:42] <WRFC_Rabbit> how do i stop the firewall on Kad?
[12:42] <cpk2> Zaronn: winscp?
[12:42] <Zaronn> cpk2:thank u will look it up
[12:42] <crazy_penguin> Good day all! :)
[12:43] <cpk2> WRFC_Rabbit: not sure about ubuntu but kubuntu comes with the firewall completely unconfigured, ie not blocking anything
[12:43] <WRFC_Rabbit> yh ty
[12:43] <WRFC_Rabbit> amule is telling me that Kad is Firewalled!
[12:43] <htims> jonsen, with google i found the following: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/40075
[12:44] <htims> jonsen, it now should work fine with dapper..
[12:44] <WRFC_Rabbit> cpk2: amule is telling me that Kad is Firewalled!
[12:45] <htims> jonson, heres also a page about the hw support but i dont think that you'll your model there..
[12:45] <htims> jonsen, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[12:45] <webben> Does anyone know how to get Gnoperic to actually produce sound?
[12:45] <stiz> could someone come up with a script to right click on an iso file and open/mount the file with fuseiso?? I allready have a folder nautilus-scripts with "Open as Administrator"
[12:45] <unfknblvbl> webben: you tickle its tummy
[12:45] <webben> My Gnoperic is silent. :(
[12:46] <jonsen> htims: hehe, yeah there is only liste a 3ware raid controller :-)
[12:46] <jonsen> htims: but it seems that it should support the areca controller
[12:46] <webben> s/Gnoperic/Gnopericus/
[12:46] <stefg> !netinstall
[12:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:47] <life2> how can I install the latest version of Gaim for Dapper please?
[12:47] <cpk2> life2: sudo apt-get install gaim
[12:47] <htims> life2, cpk2, or with synaptic...
[12:48] <life2> cpk2: gaim is already the newest version.
[12:48] <life2> it says newevest version, but its old and doesnt support many MSN features from others
[12:48] <WRFC_Rabbit> its really annoying me lol why is Kad firewalled?
[12:48] <cpk2> life2: so you have the latest version for dapper, if you want their latest beta release then you will have to build it yourself
[12:48] <life2> isnt there a newer version?
[12:48] <life2> cpk2: how?
[12:49] <murf> hello, how can i remove the package. I tried to remove apache2 via apt-get remove apache2 but there are still files of apache on the system (eg /usr/sbin/apache2ctl ...)
[12:49] <cpk2> life2: if you are lucky someone has made a .dep and you can use that other wise you will need to download the source
[12:49] <cpk2> !compile
[12:49] <htims> murf, dpkg --purge *package*
[12:49] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:49] <life2> cpk2: from?
[12:49] <Mille> howdy ppl
[12:49] <WRFC_Rabbit> how do i check if there is a firewall on my computer?
[12:49] <cpk2> life2: gaim has a website
[12:49] <life2> cpk2: url?
[12:50] <cpk2> google search gaim
[12:50] <htims> murf, and maybe you should search for other apache-related packages with dpkg -l  | grep -i apache -- to uninstall them too
[12:50] <life2> cpk2: whats google?
[12:50] <murf> htims: thx, i will try
[12:50] <unfknblvbl> OMG
[12:50] <stiz> WRFC_Rabbit:  unless you download nodes.dat and put it in /.amule then Kad wont work because the default url for nodes list in amule is dead
[12:50] <stefg> Hmm, does anyone know of if there's a 'netinst-iso' available for ubuntu somewhere, analogue to teh Debian-netinst ISOs ?
[12:50] <cpk2> hmm i wonder...
[12:50] <cpk2> !google
[12:50] <ubotu> google is a very popular search engine, http://www.google.com
[12:51] <unfknblvbl> how can you not know what google is ?
[12:51] <cpk2> cool
[12:51] <htims> stefg, afaik theres nothing like it
[12:51] <stefg> So time to make one :-)
[12:51] <htims> stefg, hehe but with and X gui please ;)
[12:51] <WRFC_Rabbit> stiz: how do i do that? if i havent done so already?
[12:52] <cpk2> life2: i am worried if you dont know how to use google that compiling from source might not be for you
[12:52] <webben> Does anyone here use/administer Gnopericus or Orca?
[12:52] <life2> cpk2: Gaim 2.0 beta 3 for Dapper Drake x86  <-- is that the one?
[12:53] <cpk2> life2: if thats the version you want and you are using dapper with an intel chip then yes
[12:53] <stefg> This is what I'm planning to do..  a rescue system like DSl or Insert, running in ram with fluxbox. And should be capable to bootstrap a full Ubuntu-Net-install...
[12:53] <scheuri> hi all
[12:53] <murf> htims: hmm there were some packages like apache-common liste in the output of dpkg -l, why it wasn't uninstalled when i ran apt-get remove apache2 ?
[12:53] <murf> *listed
[12:53] <life2> cpk2: im using Intel chip and Ubuntu Dapper
[12:54] <life2> cpk2: how do I install the .deb file ?
[12:54] <cpk2> !deb
[12:54] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[12:54] <Killa> Hey does anyone know what mp3 decoder name is in synaptic
[12:54] <minerale> Is there irc chatroom in freenode with discussion about spam and/or spam filters?
[12:54] <stiz> WRFC_Rabbit:  google nodes.dat amule, or your problem is that you actually are 'firewalled' which probably means you have a router or something
[12:54] <stiz> could someone come up with a script to right click on an iso file and open/mount the file with fuseiso?? I allready have a folder nautilus-scripts with "Open as Administrator"
[12:54] <scheuri> anyone an idea if there is a tool to convert JPGs to PDFs? if yes, what is the name of this tool? Thanks a lot
[12:54] <stiz> im not that smart
[12:54] <htims> murf, .debs dont have uninstall dependencies...
[12:54] <scheuri> anyone an idea if there is a tool to convert/save JPGs to/as PDFs? if yes, what is the name of this tool? Thanks a lot
[12:55] <Killa>  Hey does anyone know what mp3 decoder name is in synaptic
[12:55] <murf> htims: hmm allright
[12:55] <scheuri> sorry for flood...but question was a bit too...ehmm..faulty
[12:55] <scheuri> Killa: you want to listen to mp3?
[12:55] <WRFC_Rabbit> well im connected directly to my cable modem through Ethernet
[12:55] <Killa> yeah
[12:55] <POVaddct> stefg: i have done a dsl-based rescue system with xfce 3 that runs in ram
[12:55] <life2> !debbie
[12:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about debbie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:56] <Killa> but it needs a decoder and i need the name of the decoder
[12:56] <htims> murf, but .debs are even with that little issue the best package format.. ;-)
[12:56] <scheuri> Killa: there is a lot of information in !restricted
[12:56] <stiz> scheuri: search synaptic, theres something in there for that
[12:56] <life2> scheuri: no
[12:56] <scheuri> heh...;)
[12:56] <stefg> POVaddct: is that available for download somewhere? Might be an inspiration
[12:56] <scheuri> !restricted
[12:56] <Killa> !restricted
[12:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:56] <murf> htims: hmm i can recursive uninstall on the gentoo :)
[12:56] <life2> scheuri: but you can insert the JPG into a WORD document, and convert the WORD document to PDF
[12:57] <htims> murf, gentoo.... pff.... with gentoo you'll have to wait a week to have everything working...
[12:57] <scheuri> life2: I was doing this with OOo...but thought there might be another (better) way
[12:57] <life2> scheuri:understand?
[12:57] <scheuri> life2: I sure do...:)...thanks
[12:57] <POVaddct> stefg: i can set up a temporary http server here on my box. its only 128kbps upload, but anyway...
[12:57] <htims> murf, *G
[12:57] <murf> htims: you are right
[12:57] <toby> anyone know the key combination to move the mouse cursor between monitors?
[12:58] <WRFC_Rabbit> how do i install the nodes.dat to amule?
[12:58] <stefg> POVaddct: don't mind... i know the DSL/Knoppix initrd relatively well, so don't bother.
[12:58] <htims> murf, and imho its sometimes hard to guess if a library its used by somesoftware on a computer...
[12:58] <toby> i know there is one but i've been searching for days with no luck
[12:58] <pty> toby: ctrl + alt and arrow key
[12:58] <POVaddct> stefg: i changed the cloop to zisofs
[12:58] <life2> scheuri: ok kid
[12:58] <htims> murf, cause not every user uses only packages from a distribution..
[12:59] <pty> toby : oh sorry, i misunderstood - thought you were on about virtual desktops
[12:59] <toby> pty: thanks but that switches desktops I have 2 monitors
[12:59] <Killa> Thanks i got it to work
[12:59] <life2> toby: you been searching for days have you?
[12:59] <toby> yep
[12:59] <Killa> now can i use any kind of p2p on ubuntu
[12:59] <toby> I did it by mistake last week
[12:59] <htims> Killa, like with every other os :)
[12:59] <toby> i think its a Ctl-Alt something
[01:00] <stefg> POVaddct: I guess, I'll go squashfs and let the complete thing be an initrd... hopefully this is possible, but e.g. the Acronis Rescue media work that way
[01:00] <Die> Unable to mount the selected volume.
[01:00] <Die> error: device /dev/sda1 is not removable
[01:00] <toby> I also read it some where a few months ago
[01:00] <Die> error: could not execute pmount
[01:00] <Die> help please...
[01:01] <toby> die you can solve this
[01:01] <toby> die i'll try to find the link
[01:01] <Ignite_> Die, try removing the 1...
[01:01] <life2> whats Off-The-Record 3.0.0 ?
[01:01] <Die> 1?
[01:01] <Killa> what avi format how do i watch that
[01:01] <Ignite_> Die, /dev/sda not sda1.
[01:02] <Die> how do I remove it?
[01:02] <Ignite_> Are you getting this error from a GUI app?
[01:02] <Ignite_> If so then you will have to find out what's wrong with that. :-)
[01:02] <Die> GUI?... I'm using the file browser
[01:03] <g-nome> hello, i have 1 GB of ram, how big should my SWAP be ? And what's the minimal/optimal size of an ubuntu install (with home) partition?
[01:03] <SdobSiSdub> 2 gb i optimal
[01:03] <stiz> ok stupid question... when u open terminal where are you?  username@computername is /home/  ?
[01:04] <toby> die https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions?highlight=%28pmount%29 may help
[01:04] <Die> cool
[01:04] <Die> thank you
[01:04] <ffDDu> anyone ever tryed to resend some packet captured with TCPDump?
[01:04] <scheuri> life2: by the way...I just found out that imagemagick (with the command "convert") is able to convert jpeg into pdf...:)....
[01:05] <Killa> I wanna watch a .avi file watch decoder do i need
[01:05] <scheuri> sorry for bothering you all
[01:05] <WRFC_Rabbit> i still havent resolved my amule problem... http://download.overnet2000.de/nodes.dat is my nodes thigy for KAD but it says its firewalled!
[01:05] <Ignite_> stiz, you see the ~? That means you're home directory, usually /home/<username> for example if I did ``cd ~/pics" I would actually be doing ``cd /home/oliver/pics". Home that helps. :-)
[01:05] <Papandapulo> kubuntu ubuntu fuck you linux
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[01:05] <Papandapulo> kubuntu ubuntu fuck you linux
[01:05] <Papandapulo> kubuntu ubuntu fuck you linux
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[01:05] <Papandapulo> kubuntu ubuntu fuck you linux
[01:05] <Rez> Warning: `Papandapulo' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[01:05] <Papandapulo> kubuntu ubuntu fuck you linux
[01:05] <Papandapulo> kubuntu ubuntu fuck you linux
[01:06] <Asc_> yay klines!
[01:06] <agents> haha
[01:06] <Ignite_> Papandapulo, please go fuck yourself.
[01:06] <agents> what the hell?
[01:06] <Killa> how do i watch an avi
[01:06] <Ignite_> Killa, totem.
[01:06] <Killa> i need the decoder name
[01:06] <Ignite_> Xvid.
[01:06] <Papandapulo> form  you Ignite_
[01:06] <Papandapulo> ?
[01:06] <davvs> w32codecs
[01:07] <scheuri> Killa: or VLC...
[01:07] <agents> vlc
[01:07] <Asc_> killa: have you tried double-clicking?
[01:07] <Papandapulo> auu    ra klinjaaaobaaa aq
[01:07] <Papandapulo> auuuuuuuuuuuuf
[01:07] <scheuri> Papandapulo: whatever your purpose is...this language is uncalled for
[01:07] <Ignite_> Papandapulo, there was no need for that, if you need help you should ask politely, not be a rude cunt like you did, now please do not talk to me.
[01:07] <Asc_> <- lagging
[01:07] <g-nome> 2 GB of SWAP?
[01:07] <Riddell> !ops
[01:07] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[01:07] <Seveas> Riddell, ?
[01:08] <Riddell> kick Papandapulo please
[01:08] <g-nome> hello, i have 1 GB of ram, how big should my SWAP be?
[01:08] <Seveas> saw it
[01:08] <Seveas> thanks
[01:08] <Ignite_> :-D
[01:08] <wickedpuppy> lol
[01:08] <SdobSiSdub> g-nome: 2 x RAM = 2 GB
[01:08] <Ignite_> g-nome, traditionally you should make it 2x the size of your phisical RAM, but with that much RAM I wouldn't think it appropriate.
[01:08] <scheuri> g-nome: this is one of the most philosophical qestions ever...:)...I do 2 GB because my HD is mostly big enough...
[01:08] <g-nome> SdobSiSdub: 2 GB is a LOT (!)
[01:08] <Emperor_Norton> what's the command in bash to defrag your hard drive?
[01:09] <agents> i have a gig of ram and find a gig swap more than adequate
[01:09] <g-nome> would 512mb  be enough?
[01:09] <agents> very likely
[01:09] <scheuri> g-nome: yes...but you never want to run out of swap...however, it is true that with 1 Gig of RAM, 2 gigs of swap is a lot...but if you can spare it....
[01:09] <SdobSiSdub> g-nome: it optimal
[01:09] <Ignite_> Emperor_Norton, you don't need to in Ubuntu, the filesystem doesn't fragment like certain inferior ones do. ;-)
[01:09] <frogzoo> g-nome: on server - 2gig, lappie 1gig
[01:09] <g-nome> i think i will go with 768mb
[01:10] <frogzoo> there ya go
[01:10] <Emperor_Norton> Ignite: Really? Awesome
[01:10] <htims> Emperor_Norton, Ignite_ , but its possible with "defrag"
[01:10] <scheuri> g-nome: what is your harddisks size?
[01:10] <g-nome> 250GB but i need every single byte
[01:10] <Emperor_Norton> htims: I had tried that...it didn't recognize that as a command
[01:10] <htims> Emperor_Norton, you'll have to install it ;)
[01:10] <frogzoo> Emperor_Norton: no need todefrag ext3
[01:10] <scheuri> g-nome: uh...every single one? then buy a 500 gig HD...;)...sorry, just kidding...well then...try 512....but be warned...
[01:11] <Killa> thanks again
[01:11] <agents> ?
[01:11] <g-nome> and what's the minimal requirement for an ubuntu installation (with home)?
[01:11] <scheuri> g-nome: if you do video editing or other space consuming stuff, you MIGHT regret it
[01:11] <Ignite_> htims, is that not for use on inferior filesystems? It's not needed for an ext3 or ReiserFS partition. :-)
[01:11] <g-nome> scheuri: do you think 768mb is enough then?
[01:11] <frogzoo> g-nome: if you plan to use hibernate, you should stick with 1gig
[01:12] <scheuri> g-nome: if you tell us what you intend to do with the machine...we might answer that more adequatly
[01:12] <Emperor_Norton> w00t! thanks =)
[01:12] <htims> Ignite_, its for ext*, minix and xiafs... and if its really needed or not... ask the maintainer.. ;-)
[01:12] <g-nome> well more of all-round usage but no server or intense video editing
[01:12] <scheuri> there is defrag for ext*? wow...
[01:12] <Ignite_> htims, lol...
[01:12] <life2> scheuri: cool! cheers!
[01:12] <scheuri> g-nome: in that case...512 might be enough...
[01:12] <davvs> how do i resize a partition without destroying the data on it?
[01:13] <scheuri> life2: welcome...as usually I found out AFTER asking here...happens 80% of the time...;)
[01:13] <g-nome> and what's the minimal requirement for an ubuntu installation (with home)?
[01:13] <scheuri> g-nome: with GUI?
[01:13] <Ignite_> davvs, use a program that takes precautions, GParted is a good one.
[01:13] <g-nome> yes
[01:13] <frogzoo> g-nome: unless space is really at a premium you should stick with 1gig
[01:13] <davvs> ok, thanks Ignite_, i'll try that
[01:13] <scheuri> g-nome: hmmm...with XCFE instead KDE or Gnome...i'd say...around 1 Gig?
[01:13] <g-nome> gnome
[01:13] <scheuri> g-nome: then a bit more...1,5?
[01:14] <g-nome> and with home
[01:14] <scheuri> g-nome: where is your data? in home? then you need a lot Mooooooorreeee
[01:14] <g-nome> no
[01:14] <g-nome> it's not there
[01:14] <g-nome> it's on a separate partition
[01:14] <g-nome> just the config files in home
[01:14] <scheuri> g-nome: okay...stop right now...:)....tell us WHAT you need and WHAT you want to do...otherwise we are just wild guessing
[01:14] <htims> Ignite_, iirc the volume must be unmounted to run the defrag... and thats for most users not really easy.. ;-)
[01:15] <Ignite_> htims, I wouldn't see the point anyway...
[01:15] <g-nome> scheuri: i want to know how big i should make my partition for JUST the ubuntu installation (/,/home,programs,etc...), but files will NOT be stored there
[01:16] <Emperor_Norton> Oooh...here's a good question...I know Linux can recognize the full 4gb+ ram, but will a memory controller on a standard x86 (non-server) mobo actually be okay with 4 gigs in it?
[01:16] <scheuri> g-nome: if you are only using a few programs/applications and there is no big data stored in /home...then I would guess 1.5-2 gigs
[01:16] <g-nome> ok thanks
[01:16] <Lob1> hi
[01:17] <Samuli^> g-nome, I'd make that 5-10GB, to be on the safe-side
[01:17] <dagers001> apt-get postgresql-8.1 pgadmin3  the I used  sudo passwd postgres    and changed password for my, but when I trying connecting (by pgadmin3) I have because password is wrong
[01:17] <g-nome> i'll go for 5 then, after all i can still make it bigger, albeit risky
[01:17] <bam_> hi I was wondering if anyone could give me a command that would give me only the top 5 lines of this command "find ~ -type f -printf "%T@ %t %h/%f \n " | uniq | sort -nr"
[01:17] <malice_> How do you mount and unmount a pc card in a laptop. If I have it in and take it out Ubuntu locks up. Just wondering if there is a comand to unmount/mount this
[01:18] <Lob1> i can't configure my network with a static ip, help plz
[01:18] <frogzoo> bam_: head -5
[01:18] <bam_> thx
[01:18] <POVaddct> bam_: pipe it to head -5
[01:18] <frogzoo> malice_: cardctl eject
[01:19] <malice_> fogzoo: and to mount it?
[01:19] <bam_> thx guys. I really enjoy this channel. People always so helpful. thx alot everyone.
[01:19] <refnumzx> i would like to setup automatic backup of my system, OS and data to a usb drive when i insert the key/drive into the usb port, a program/programs do do this?
[01:19] <frogzoo> malice_: usually just pop it in & hal will pick it up
[01:19] <malice_> ok ty
[01:19] <WRFC_Rabbit> does anyone know any mmorpgs like Conquer Online that are compatible with Ubuntu??
[01:20] <agents> actually, second life is java...
[01:22] <Zaronn> hello all
[01:22] <Killa> what p2p do you guys use
[01:22] <Zaronn> can anyone recommend a good remote xwindow client to connect to ubuntu from my windows machine?
[01:22] <scheuri> refnumzx: well, I do not now how to automatically make it...but maybe grsync (aptitude install grsync) might be a thing you like...it is using rsync to sync data
[01:22] <erUSUL> !vnc > Zaronn
[01:22] <scheuri> refnumzx: there was another GUI-Tool, but I just cant remember its name...sorry...:(
[01:22] <POVaddct> Zaronn: putty, winscp
[01:22] <refnumzx> yeah i know about and use rsync
[01:23] <scheuri> refnumzx: ah, okay...sory
[01:23] <POVaddct> Zaronn: oh xwindow... nevermind
[01:23] <refnumzx> well, thanks for the tip though
[01:23] <Killa> what p2p should i use
[01:23] <scheuri> vw
[01:23] <refnumzx> the idea is for it t happen automagically
[01:23] <Zaronn> POVaddct:winscp has the ability to connect as a xwindows session? thought only file stuff
[01:23] <frogzoo> Killa: azureus is nice
[01:24] <Killa> can i get music on that
[01:24] <POVaddct> Zaronn: yeah, i skipped the xwindow part in your question
[01:24] <frogzoo> Killa:firewire too
[01:24] <POVaddct> Zaronn: try vnc, maybe x11vnc as server on ubuntu and any vnc client on windows
[01:25] <Killa> azureus is a bittorent client
[01:25] <Killa> i need a p2p like limewire
[01:25] <stefg> !frostwire
[01:25] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[01:25] <Killa> thanks
[01:26] <dagers001_> apt-get install postgreslq-8.1 pgadmin3   then   sudo passwd postgres   and I changed password, but when I trying connection (by pgadmin3 in my example) I have alert "wrong password"
[01:27] <THX-1138> frogzoo - "Lively" here this morning isn't it?  ;)
[01:28] <g-nome> where's the best, *safest* place (folder,partition) to save files (from 1mb to 1GB)? Should i put them in home?
[01:28] <mjr> for your personal files home is the natural choice
[01:29] <bam_> I was wondering how I could find the PID of a running script from within the script? so that it would print the scripts own PID?
[01:29] <Killa> Yes it worked thanks
[01:30] <THX-1138> bam_ - sounds like fun - wanna see if ubotu has something for us?
[01:30] <THX-1138> !bash
[01:30] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:30] <mwe> bam_: ps -e and some awk magic possibly. I'm not sure if you can get it directly
[01:30] <Juhaz> bam_, $$
[01:30] <mwe> oh
[01:30] <bam_> Juhaz: what?
[01:31] <bam_> echo $$?
[01:31] <Juhaz> yes. or whatever you want to do with it
[01:31] <Juhaz> for bash scripts anyway
[01:32] <bam_> yeah it worked.thx Juhaz.:)
[01:32] <danga> I installed apace2 and it was working fine. Now about three days later I start it and I cannot access local host through the browser at all. And I have done nothing with iptables.
[01:32] <scheuri> danga: any error message when starting apache2?
[01:32] <danga> not at all
[01:32] <scheuri> danga: how did you start apache2?
[01:33] <dagers001_> someone help me? I installed postgresql and pgadmin3  but I can't login, I changed password for postgres by "passwd postgres", but when I use pgadmin3 I can't login
[01:33] <silent_scream> how do i mute gnomeradio from the terminal?
[01:33] <danga> /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[01:33] <danga> scheuri ^
[01:33] <scheuri> danga: okay...so no error message...have you portscanned your locahost (nmap)?
[01:33] <danga> yes i have no port 80 open
[01:34] <scheuri> danga: ah...okay...what happens if you stop and start apache2 again (/etc/init.d/apache2 stop and then start again)
[01:34] <danga> scheuri: alright hold on
[01:35] <scheuri> danga: sure do
[01:35] <danga> scheuri: ok i did it... No errors
[01:36] <scheuri> danga: and still no port 80 open?
[01:36] <danga> lemme check
[01:37] <danga> scheuri: ok i check through the browser and nmap and there is no port 80
[01:37] <scheuri> danga: have you installed any other software within these 3 days? changed hostname?
[01:37] <silent_scream> how do i mute gnomeradio from terminal? what is the command?
[01:37] <anto9us> where do I set my "Open New Window" shortcut keys for Nautilus? Can't find it in gconf
[01:37] <danga> scheuri: i have not changed the host but i have installed a lot of software
[01:37] <scheuri> danga: also networking software?
[01:38] <THX-1138> apps/metacity??
[01:38] <danga> yeah some network stuff
[01:38] <scheuri> danga: okay...type "dpkg -l | grep apache" into your terminal
[01:39] <danga> scheuri alright did that
[01:39] <scheuri> danga: how many packages are listed?
[01:39] <danga> 9
[01:39] <scheuri> danga: that are quite a lot in my opinion...
[01:39] <scheuri> danga:  is there a apache (without the 2)?
[01:39] <anto9us> THX-1138, no, it's not in there
[01:40] <danga> scheuri shoud i remove all that shit and reinstall apache?
[01:40] <scheuri> danga: well...that would be windows-way...;)...could help, but still...we may found out what is wrong...gimme another 5 minutes, okay?
[01:41] <danga> ok kool man
[01:41] <scheuri> danga: in these 9 packages listed...are there any without "apache2" in their names?
[01:42] <WRFC_Rabbit> whats the bes mmorpg for UBUNTU
[01:42] <WRFC_Rabbit> ??
[01:42] <scheuri> WRFC_Rabbit: there is a list of opensource or free games at www.ubuntuforums.org...maybe there you find one
[01:42] <scheuri> wooppss...sorry... www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:43] <anilomkar> I want Bean Development Kit in Ubuntu
[01:43] <danga> scheuri: apache-common, apach2-common, apache2-mpm-prefork, apache2-utils, libapache-mod-php4, libapache-mod-ssl, libapache-mod-ssl-doc, libapache-mod-php5
[01:43] <jpjacobs> or look at http://www.happypenguin.org/
[01:43] <Ignite_> WRFC_Rabbit, you might want to have a look at Planeshift, it looks good to me: http://www.planeshift.it/
[01:44] <WRFC_Rabbit> im dling it now
[01:44] <scheuri> danga: I actually wonder why those php-moduls are for Apache 1.3 and not Apache 2...soooooo...they MIGHT be the problem
[01:44] <Ignite_> :D
[01:44] <ProN00b> WRFC_Rabbit, it basically boils down to this: there are no games for linux ^^ (except ut and quake)
[01:44] <WRFC_Rabbit> just wondered if anyone would mention it
[01:44] <Ignite_> Stop telling lies. :-)
[01:44] <scheuri> ProN00b: that is very...very....veryyyy....ermm....unnice to say...:)
[01:44] <danga> scheuri: I will remove those and then try to connect
[01:44] <Ignite_> There are plenty of games for GNU/Linux.
[01:44] <scheuri> danga: its worth a try
[01:44] <anilomkar> I want Bean Development kit in Ubuntu Please help me
[01:45] <scheuri> danga: do not forget to restart apache2
[01:45] <Emperor_Norton> There's um...d00m3, a few games by blizzard, and Wesnoth
[01:45] <WRFC_Rabbit> how do i install planeshift??
[01:45] <WRFC_Rabbit> just click the dled file?
[01:45] <ProN00b> Ignite_, yeah, like minesweeper
[01:45] <scheuri> WRFC_Rabbit: is it an exe-file?
[01:45] <ProN00b> scheuri, lol
[01:45] <Ignite_> ProN00b, that is a windows game, don't be silly.
[01:45] <WRFC_Rabbit> nope i dling the bin for linux
[01:45] <danga> scheuri: the php5 one says it is for apache2
[01:46] <danga> i think php4 is the only in that i need to remove
[01:46] <scheuri> danga: okay...another (last) try...make "dpkg -l | grep http" in your terminal
[01:46] <mwe> there is a minesweeper game for ubuntu as well
[01:46] <ProN00b> sorry, Ignite_ i mean "Mines"
[01:46] <danga> k
[01:46] <Zaronn> hello all
[01:46] <Zaronn> how do I start samba configuration? I have instaled the web based one btw
[01:46] <anilomkar> hello any one please tell me how to install Bean Development Kit in Ubuntu
[01:47] <danga> scheuri: that returns nothing
[01:47] <Ignite_> ProN00b, will you please stop telling lies, you are making false statements simply because you haven't taken the time to look for good GNU/Linux games.
[01:47] <ProN00b> Ignite_, then tell me some of the good ones please
[01:47] <ProN00b> lol
[01:47] <Emperor_Norton> Ignite: Erm....there aren't a *whole* lot of native linux games.
[01:47] <mwe> frozen-bubble ;)
[01:47] <scheuri> Zaronn: you mean you installed "SWAT"...right? you need to start inetd as far as I know and then connect with your browser to localhost:901
[01:47] <Ignite_> Emperor_Norton, yes there are...
[01:47] <Emperor_Norton> that aren't variations on ROGUE
[01:47] <danga> scheuri: still nothing
[01:47] <Emperor_Norton> or Nethack
[01:48] <ProN00b> Emperor_Norton, and even less if you add good of to the list of attributes
[01:48] <Zaronn> scheuri:Thanx a lot :)
[01:48] <scheuri> danga: what was the output of the terminal thing with http?
[01:48] <scheuri> Zaronn: welcome
[01:48] <danga> there was no output
[01:48] <danga> ^^^^
[01:48] <Emperor_Norton> Ignite: Please list some modern linux games por-favor. I know a few off the top of my head
[01:48] <Ignite_> There is the UT series, the Quake series and iirc the Doom series, there is also Nexius, that new game i'm not sure of the name, there are too many to mention...
[01:48] <frogzoo> Emperor_Norton: WoW
[01:49] <Ignite_> Planeshift is another...
[01:49] <scheuri> danga: okay...so that means there is no "competition" to apache installed which might interfere...well...frankly I must admit I do not know what to do now...:(...sorry...maybe purging apache2 and reinstall it might help
[01:49] <bvanaerde> tuxracer
[01:49] <bvanaerde> :)
[01:49] <danga> alright
[01:49] <Emperor_Norton> I'm aware of Blizzard's commitment to providing ports to OSX and Linux
[01:49] <Ignite_> I've heard good things about Americas Army also...
[01:49] <WRFC_Rabbit> it would be nice if someone could make Conquer Online compatible with Ubuntu
[01:49] <ProN00b> Ignite_, ok, that makes one mmorpg and a whole lot of versions of the same fps
[01:49] <bvanaerde> Enemy Territory: completely free game
[01:50] <Ignite_> I was about to mention that one.
[01:50] <Ignite_> Armegatron.
[01:50] <scheuri> danga: good luck
[01:50] <ProN00b> Emperor_Norton, blizzard gives a shit about linux
[01:50] <mwe> completely old game as well. good game though
[01:50] <bvanaerde> Tremulous
[01:50] <danga> scheuri: where are all the tgzs for these packages stored so i can fetch i whole new package
[01:50] <Ignite_> 7 Cube 2
[01:50] <Ignite_> - 7
[01:50] <Ignite_> Pingus, neverball..
[01:50] <p0m> Hey, anyone got time for an odd issue with Banshee, Mono and a missing dependancy which isn't missing?
[01:50] <scheuri> danga: you mean the .debs...;)....
[01:50] <ProN00b> Emperor_Norton, you could prolly run the mac wow on linux with a few small hacks, but they don't do it
[01:50] <danga> yeah
[01:51] <Ignite_> infact, screw this, if you want to know some good games instead of me telling them all over IRC read for yourself: http://techgage.com/article/top_10_free_linux_games/4
[01:51] <WRFC_Rabbit> how do i install planeshift??
[01:51] <frogzoo> !appdb
[01:51] <ubotu> Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[01:51] <ProN00b> Ignite_, the lat few things you mentioned were all crappy
[01:51] <Samuli^> Ignite_, there isn't a lot. But hopefully the situation will improve as linux gains popularity.
[01:51] <p0m> Apparently I'm missing dbus-sharp.
[01:51] <Ignite_> ProN00b, not really...
[01:51] <Ignite_> Samuli^, no treally..
[01:51] <scheuri> danga: if you want to get rid of them to make sure you download new ones type "(sudo) aptitude autoclean"
[01:52] <ProN00b> Ignite_, ya rly
[01:52] <danga> cool
[01:52] <p0m> Anyone?
[01:52] <bvanaerde> ProN00b: windows user?
[01:52] <Emperor_Norton> What I'm getting at Ignite, (and I have alot of these games) Is that you don't find alot of Oblivion or HL2, or F.E.A.R. of BF2 level games in Linux
[01:52] <scheuri> WRFC_Rabbit: if you have a bin, you should be able to run it by opening a terminal, make it executable and then type "sh yourgame.bin"
[01:52] <ProN00b> Ignite_, the games on the page you just pasted sound like the 10 bucks a pop things you could buy for windows in 98
[01:52] <Ignite_> ffs, people assume that the games in the shops are the best... try looking elsewhere instead of complaining that the games you see in the shops are the only ones, and they don't run on GNU/Linux so there mustn't be any for GNU/Linux, it's ignorant.
[01:52] <Emperor_Norton> And also, in total, you've listed about probably 50% of ALL of the good games in Linux.
[01:53] <Emperor_Norton> that are *native* linux.
[01:53] <bvanaerde> what's the problem, actually
[01:53] <totall_6_7> ProN00b: if you like games so much and you think that linux does such a bad job at porting them or you think that the slection is limited.....DO US A FAVOUR AND GO BACK TO WINDOWS
[01:53] <Samuli^> Ignite_, they ARE the best for obvious reasons.
[01:53] <bvanaerde> if you don't like linux, then that's absolutely fine
[01:53] <scheuri> wow...wooow...calm down all...
[01:53] <Ignite_> Samuli^, why? because they are marketed? I don't thing so..
[01:53] <p0m> There's plenty of games for linux.
[01:53] <Emperor_Norton> totall: Actually the problem is that *developers* do not port to linux.
[01:53] <p0m> There's also winex or whatever it's called now.
[01:53] <frogzoo> totall_6_7: nah - dual boot dood
[01:54] <Emperor_Norton> Linux could handle games absolutely fine, if developers would make ports
[01:54] <p0m> Linux can.
[01:54] <scheuri> Emperor_Norton: the problem is more...that "devs" are using directx instead of openGL...:)
[01:54] <p0m> Take Quake et al for instance.
[01:54] <Emperor_Norton> That fucking too
[01:54] <Emperor_Norton> oops
[01:54] <Emperor_Norton> sorrt
[01:54] <danga> ls
[01:54] <ProN00b> totall_6_7, or i could just continue to complain about it till so people realize the bad situation and do something about it ? you would rather have no games on linux at all ?
[01:54] <Emperor_Norton> sorry
[01:54] <frogzoo> p0m: ati's 3d drivers are the sux
[01:54] <WRFC_Rabbit> how do i make it executable?
[01:55] <Emperor_Norton> frogzoo: Hopefully that will change with AMD's acquisition of ATI :D
[01:55] <Samuli^> Ignite_, No, obviously marketing does nothing for the quality of the game, but think about it. Do actually hope to see a game like oblivion as open source?
[01:55] <ProN00b> WRFC_Rabbit, what is the anem of the file you downloaded ?
[01:55] <p0m> frogzoo, Actually, I have no problems with them.
[01:55] <Schamane> ok the problem in drivers is the gpl
[01:55] <scheuri> ProN00b: it is a circle of hell....not many people using linux want to game, so there is no sell...if there is no sell, no "new" games for linux to attract people...
[01:55] <WRFC_Rabbit> PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin
[01:55] <frogzoo> p0m: so slow...
[01:55] <p0m> Heh.
[01:55] <p0m> That I can agree on.
[01:55] <Ignite_> Samuli^, I don't want to see anything as open source, I want to see software as Free software...
[01:55] <unfknblvbl> pron is faster on linux than windows
[01:55] <p0m> It runs slower than on stripped down win.
[01:55] <ProN00b> Schamane, yeah, thats why I bitch about it, and you should too...
[01:55] <bvanaerde> Samuli^: why should it be open source
[01:55] <scheuri> WRFC_Rabbit: type in your terminal "chmod +x PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin"
[01:55] <ProN00b> unfknblvbl, fo shorely
[01:56] <Emperor_Norton> Samuli: I don't necessarily expect big game developers to be putting their latest and greatest stuff out Open source, but I do hope they improve the amount of ports to linux they do
[01:56] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guys. how can i check whehter i have w32codecs or not?
[01:56] <Samuli^> Emperor_Norton, that I'm hoping for too.
[01:56] <Schamane> ProN00b: i do, but i also understand ati`s probs
[01:56] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> cause i downlaoded and installed them. still i cant play WMV files
[01:56] <Schamane> we will see, now its amd
[01:56] <frogzoo> !codecs > PunjabiFLOYDIAN
[01:56] <scheuri> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: type in your terminal "dpkg -l | grep codecs"
[01:56] <SpComb> http://techgage.com/viewimg.php?img=/reviews/gaming/top_10_linux_games/et_2.png&desc=Enemy%20Territory <-- linux
[01:56] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok lemme try
[01:56] <Samuli^> the thing is that ignite argued that the best games aren't the ones that you can find on shops.
[01:56] <Ignite_> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, try installing totem-xine
[01:57] <ProN00b> Emperor_Norton, it isn't all that hard if you look at it more closely, look at how many games are made with the quake or ut engines... now look at it how many of them come with a linux binary...
[01:57] <dainanaki> see you guys later I'm off to school
[01:57] <WRFC_Rabbit> scheuri: home@home-desktop:~$ chmod +x PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin
[01:57] <WRFC_Rabbit> chmod: cannot access `PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin': No such file or directory
[01:57] <frogzoo> Samuli^: they don't have WoW in shops ?
[01:57] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok the codecs are there. why cant totem play them
[01:57] <ProN00b> Emperor_Norton, people just don't care
[01:57] <ubuntu> hi guys
[01:57] <Killa> i installed frostwire and it just wouldn't show up
[01:57] <Samuli^> and I'm just saying that of course they are, because they got motivation and money to make good ones.
[01:57] <Killa> when i run it
[01:57] <ProN00b> WRFC_Rabbit, go to the directory the file is in
[01:57] <scheuri> WRFC_Rabbit: umhmm?? well...chmod +x yourgamename.bin
[01:57] <Samuli^> frogzoo, are you saying that wow doesn't benefit it makers in anyway?
[01:57] <SpComb> :o
[01:57] <Ignite_> Samuli^, they aren't always, take GNU/Linux for example, it's not marketed or (usually) in the shops, yet it's far superior to other OS'
[01:57] <SpComb> AA works on linux?
[01:57] <Emperor_Norton> ProN00b: There will be a bigger market for linux games in the (relatively) near future
[01:57] <WRFC_Rabbit> its on the desktop
[01:57] <frogzoo> Samuli^: no, I meant WoW is a good game, imo
[01:57] <Killa> can someone help
[01:58] <SpComb> I need to try America's Army sometime
[01:58] <scheuri> totall_6_7: easy...:)
[01:58] <ubuntu> kill with what?
[01:58] <Ignite_> WoW isn't a game, it's a disease. :P
[01:58] <SpComb> although I'm a bit reluctant to do that for obvious reasons
[01:58] <Killa> when i run frostwire it doesn't show up
[01:58] <KenSentMe> Hi. I'm running dual-desktop (desktop stretched over 2 screens) using the big desktop feature from ATI. Everything runs well, but Totem also stretches the video, just like my desktop is stretched. Anyone knows how i can get Totem to display videos normally? I'm running Ubuntu Dapper.
[01:58] <Samuli^> Ignite_, it's not a game and took over 10 years to develop. You think that someone is going to go through all that trouble to make a... game?
[01:58] <ubuntu> kila do u get any errors?
[01:58] <scheuri> WRFC_Rabbit: uhmm...funny....okay...wait a sec
[01:58] <ProN00b> Emperor_Norton, o rly, i am not too sure, i mean if even linux users in here flame me for demanding games for linux.....
[01:58] <Killa> Nope
[01:58] <Ignite_> Killa, do you have sun java installed?
[01:58] <Killa> ummm no i dont think so
[01:58] <ubuntu> Killa:  do 1 thing
[01:58] <ProN00b> WRFC_Rabbit, then go to the desktop with cd Desktop
[01:58] <Ignite_> Salihu, games _do_ take years to develop...
[01:59] <ubuntu> try running the application from konsole
[01:59] <ProN00b> WRFC_Rabbit, bevore doing chmod +x
[01:59] <Emperor_Norton> ProN00b: developing nations are getting into this "Cheap PC = Runs linux" thing
[01:59] <WRFC_Rabbit> cd desktop??
[01:59] <scheuri> WRFC_Rabbit: do you hav konquerer or nautilus?
[01:59] <scheuri> WRFC_Rabbit: ah...right....cd Desktop (capital D)...
[01:59] <WRFC_Rabbit> im a noob lol
[01:59] <ProN00b> Emperor_Norton, and i am not getting into the "cheap pc = runs games" thing, do you ?
[01:59] <ubuntu> WRFC_Rabbit:  kool, me too :0
[01:59] <Ignite_> Samuli^, * even..
[01:59] <Emperor_Norton> Imagine if the next South Korea (the largest consumer of MMORPG's) is raised on linux PC's?
[02:00] <ubuntu> WRFC_Rabbit:  we r no0b twins :)
[02:00] <WRFC_Rabbit> ok i typed cd Desktop into terminal
[02:00] <scheuri> WRFC_Rabbit: you are right...you need "to go" to the Desktop with your terminal by typing "cd Desktop"
[02:00] <scheuri> WRFC_Rabbit: and now the command "chmod +x gamename.bin"
[02:00] <ProN00b> Emperor_Norton, next south korea ? you are dreaming... america won't allow a success storry like that again, it will bomb em away
[02:01] <Emperor_Norton> ProN00b: China is likely to be next South Korea in terms in game's, and china is developing the $125 dual core PC.
[02:01] <WRFC_Rabbit> ok
[02:01] <scheuri> I dont want to destroy the fun in here...but some of the discussion might be transfered to another channel, aye?
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Agreed
[02:01] <Emperor_Norton> You've also got OLPC
[02:01] <WRFC_Rabbit> ive done that
[02:01] <scheuri> kinda hard to track reponses and questions in here...
[02:01] <Schamane> Emperor_Norton: i dont think this pc will ever be released ;)
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> scheuri: This is nothing wait an hour or two
[02:02] <myra> ok
[02:02] <Emperor_Norton> Schamane: China has a very big incentive to develop it....granted the "Dual core" is 2 cheap 400mhz cores.
[02:02] <scheuri> Jack_Sparrow: uh...really? well then...time to go in an hour or two...;)
[02:02] <myra> where am i
[02:02] <Ignite_> At your PC.
[02:03] <myra> haha
[02:03] <wickedpuppy> myra, #ubuntu ....
[02:03] <scheuri> WRFC_Rabbit: well...not it should be executable...not type "sh gamename.bin"
[02:03] <Emperor_Norton> wait, or two 800mhz cores, depending on how their measuring
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> scheuri: Adding the persons name highlights the text making it much easier.  To type a nme you use tab complete..
[02:03] <scheuri> Jack_Sparrow: I know that and I try to do it everytime...but other people seeking help might not...
[02:03] <ProN00b> Emperor_Norton, thats just a little weaker than my current system, and i can barely run gnome here
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> scheuri: Kinda why I mentioned it while we were slow.
[02:04] <scheuri> :)
[02:04] <WRFC_Rabbit> scheuri: home@home-desktop:~/Desktop$ sh PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin
[02:04] <WRFC_Rabbit> PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin: PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin: cannot execute binary file
[02:04] <scheuri> WRFC_Rabbit: okay...type "ls -la PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin" and tell me what is says at the first few letters
[02:04] <ProN00b> WRFC_Rabbit, .(PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin
[02:04] <myra> wat een gedoe zeg
[02:04] <Emperor_Norton> ProN00b: It will probably run xcfe or something much scaled down...but regardless the integration of the "People's OS" to china will be a "very big thing"
[02:05] <MikeVda> myra english?
[02:05] <MikeVda> lol
[02:05] <ProN00b> WRFC_Rabbit, sorry, do ./PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin
[02:05] <WRFC_Rabbit> scheuri: ls -la PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin
[02:05] <ProN00b> Emperor_Norton, still, this thing won't run any cool games
[02:05] <ProN00b> cool=>new
[02:06] <WRFC_Rabbit> thanks pronoob :D
[02:06] <scheuri> *mumblers to ProN00b*...there are a lot of cool old games
[02:06] <scheuri> WRFC_Rabbit: did it work?
[02:06] <Emperor_Norton> Pron00b: No, but it will raise a generation of new FOSS users, a rather large one at that, who will be a very receptive market for Linux native games
[02:06] <myra> leaving
[02:06] <ProN00b> scheuri, thats why i changed cool to new
[02:06] <WRFC_Rabbit> yup
[02:06] <scheuri> WRFC_Rabbit: great...:)...have fun
[02:07] <ProN00b> Emperor_Norton, naw, nawt rly ^^ they will all pirate windows xp
[02:07] <WRFC_Rabbit> now it wont let me save the game in /opt/PlaneShift
[02:07] <Jimmey> What's happened to lilo?
[02:07] <WRFC_Rabbit> grrrrr
[02:07] <ProN00b> WRFC_Rabbit, uh, go root
[02:07] <ProN00b> sudo sh
[02:07] <Ignite_> sudo -i
[02:07] <Ignite_> you mean :)
[02:08] <ProN00b> ya ya
[02:08] <scheuri> ;)
[02:08] <WRFC_Rabbit> its not writable by the current user!
[02:08] <WRFC_Rabbit> but i am the only user!#
[02:08] <ProN00b> WRFC_Rabbit, still, you need admin to install it
[02:08] <Ignite_> WRFC_Rabbit, cancel the install, then do "sudo -i" and then what you did in the terminal before to get the installer started..
[02:09] <ProN00b> WRFC_Rabbit, if sudo -i asks you for a password, type in your password
[02:09] <scheuri> what is the homepage of planetside anyway (he made me curious)
[02:09] <Ignite_> Actually no, use gksudo <installer filename>
[02:10] <scheuri> planetshift...not planetside
[02:10] <scheuri> sorry
[02:10] <finalbeta> gksu <installer filename>
[02:10] <kuja> Shouldn't the nvidia-glx package contain the nvidia kernel module?
[02:10] <frogzoo> !nvidia > kuja
[02:11] <kuja> Thanks
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> kuja: different modeules for different kernels
[02:11] <Zaronn> guys my screen keeps on going black on my new ubuntu installation and can not get it back by moving mouse or anything
[02:11] <kuja> I'm using the Dapper LiveCD and I want to get the nvidia module working, but when I installed it, X wouldn't start when trying to use it.
[02:12] <quintin> so, I am installing this ubuntu crap again
[02:12] <quintin> I think it will suck just as much air this time too =)
[02:12] <quintin> we shall see!
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> kuja: Were you trying the one from nvidia or the one from our repo/wiki
[02:12] <kuja> repository
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> quintin: NIce positive attitude
[02:13] <WRFC_Rabbit> im stuck lol
[02:13] <quintin> Jack_Sparrow: Bite me! :)
[02:13] <WRFC_Rabbit> i done sudo -i
[02:13] <quintin> 1:34 left in install
[02:13] <WRFC_Rabbit> i entered my pass
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> quintin: Do you need help or just commenting.
[02:13] <finalbeta> WRFC_Rabbit, don't do that. Abort and use : gksu <installer filename>
[02:13] <WRFC_Rabbit> now it says theres no such dir!
[02:13] <Killa> frostwire still isnt launching and i have the java plugin
[02:13] <finalbeta> you shouldn't use sudo, duno why someone told you that
[02:13] <WRFC_Rabbit> gksu??
[02:13] <ProN00b> quintin, had any problems last time ?
[02:14] <quintin> Jack_Sparrow: Just commenting.  I'm a master of Solaris, SunOS, FreeBSD, and Debian, so I should be fine. >:P
[02:14] <WRFC_Rabbit> in terminal??
[02:14] <quintin> ProN00b: mostly lack of drivers
[02:14] <Killa>  frostwire still isnt launching and i have the java plugin
[02:14] <finalbeta> WRFC_Rabbit, use su to start commands with root rights. Or gksu if you want a graphic password dialog, like the one you get when you start synaptic or something.
[02:14] <quintin> ProN00b: was seeing if an elderly person could use ubuntu on their laptop.  I'm installing it on a desktop appliance machine now... should work fine I think...
[02:15] <WRFC_Rabbit> i see
[02:15] <kuja> $ sudo modprobe nvidia
[02:15] <kuja> FATAL: Module nvidia not found.
[02:15] <WRFC_Rabbit> root@home-desktop:~# gksu ./PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin
[02:15] <WRFC_Rabbit> (gksu:12506): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> kuja: did you run into any errors during the install?  Did you make the manual edit of xorg?  Did you install the correct restricted modules?
[02:15] <kuja> I'm not doing this from X.
[02:15] <kuja> I simply want to load the nvidia module.
[02:16] <Emperor_Norton> quintin: I use ubuntu on my laptop
[02:16] <Killa> are there anymore p2p programs like frostwire for linux
[02:16] <Emperor_Norton> only problem I had was getting my wifi-card to work
[02:16] <finalbeta> WRFC_Rabbit, ok, weird, use su <./installed then>
[02:16] <quintin> Emperor_Norton: wifi drivers is a huge pain in the ass.  what kind of laptop?
[02:16] <Emperor_Norton> Compaq 2210US
[02:16] <quintin> Emperor_Norton: not familiar with that line.  what's in it?  I have a compaq n600c as my current portable
[02:17] <Emperor_Norton> It's a discontinued laptop.
[02:17] <rdz> hi all. i have a asus-laptop with built-in card reader. i wonder how i can make it work/mount. any hints, where to start?
[02:17] <quintin> Emperor_Norton: I haven't made the leap yet and gotten rid of windows for desktop yet.  still use it for reasons of ease of use, software, and some games...
[02:17] <quintin> of course all my servers are FreeBSD or Gentoo though
[02:18] <Emperor_Norton> 1 PCMCIA slot, 2 USB slots, 1 dvd/cd-rom player, 1 modem, 1 ethernet port, 1 broadcomm wifi, 15in monitor, 1gb ram maximum
[02:18] <Emperor_Norton> It was a budget line
[02:18] <WRFC_Rabbit> ok start from the start lol
[02:18] <DJAdmiral> quintin: I've made the complete leap but every now and then I take out my old winme box to play UT or some wingames :P
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> rdz: card reader as in memory stick or smart card reader?
[02:19] <DJAdmiral> quintin: QEMU doesn't really do the job for me lol
[02:19] <WRFC_Rabbit> i open terminal
[02:19] <quintin> DJAdmiral: And tell me, how do you feel?
[02:19] <quintin> DJAdmiral: heh I bet it doesn't...
[02:19] <Emperor_Norton> Windows Mistake Edition? Ew.
[02:19] <kuja> Any idea on the nvidia driver?
[02:19] <WRFC_Rabbit> then type??
[02:19] <Yaakov> Good morning, Jack_Sparrow.
[02:19] <quintin> Emperor_Norton: cpu ?
[02:19] <Mille> is there any program that allows me control how often the fans in my laptop should run? they normalt run on intervals, but the computers gets to hot so I would like to make it run more often.
[02:19] <DJAdmiral> Emperor_Norton: Yeah I know lol. You made a mistake though - It's actually windoze messed up edition
[02:19] <rdz> Jack_Sparrow, smart card reader, actually it has slots for different kinds of card, i'm trying to read a mmc-card now
[02:19] <finalbeta> WRFC_Rabbit, su <installstartcommand>
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> kuja: I asked three questions which you didnt answer yet
[02:20] <DJAdmiral> quintin: Oh it feels absolutely wonderful to be completely ms free on your laptop.
[02:20] <WRFC_Rabbit> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Yaakov: Goodmorning sir..
[02:20] <finalbeta> WRFC_Rabbit, if you need to do ./installer to start it, you now need to do su ./installer
[02:20] <finalbeta> WRFC_Rabbit, then it will probably ask your user password, so you give it.
[02:20] <quintin> DJAdmiral: I am sure that it does.....
[02:20] <Zaronn> anyone knows why my screen goes black in ubuntu?  I cant get it back by moving the mouse or keyboard
[02:20] <DJAdmiral> Brb.
[02:21] <Emperor_Norton> quintin: the proc is a 2.0ghz (I think, maybe 1.8ghz) Celeron M
[02:21] <WRFC_Rabbit> installer being PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin?
[02:21] <rdz> !mmc
[02:21] <quintin> DJAdmiral: maybe I do it soon... don't know.  I have to service win machines for clients often, so I wonder if it's best to leave it on my network to stay familiar with it
[02:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mmc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Zaronn: when does it go black? During the install?
[02:21] <rdz> !smart card
[02:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smart card - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:21] <gypsymauro> hello
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> rdz: MIne just show up as usb drives when I stick them into a slot.
[02:22] <finalbeta> WRFC_Rabbit,  su chmod 0777  PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin & su ./PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin
[02:22] <DJAdmiral> quintin: True - even though I don't use windoze anymore I can still do stuff with it like hell. After all, I have been using computers since I was 4 :|
[02:22] <Emperor_Norton> and DJAdmiral: You don't need qemu or windows to play UT
[02:22] <finalbeta> WRFC_Rabbit, you need to make the file executable first.
[02:22] <gypsymauro> I'm trying to install ltsp-server  on ubuntu but it doesn't creates the tftpboot/ltsp/pxelinux.0 file where I can find it?
[02:22] <Zaronn> Jack_Sparrow:No i justinstalled it and workign great and got vnc orking and everything.. but after leaving it for a while i noticed it went black like a screen saver.  But the monitor is still up (green light not stand by) and cant get it back
[02:22] <finalbeta> WRFC_Rabbit, then you can start it using root rights. You need root because it will write to places where your normal user can't write.
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Zaronn: Is this a laptop?
[02:22] <DJAdmiral> Emperor_Norton: Yes I know. there is UT for linux by Loki games. I've tried it. It doesn't work for me.
[02:22] <rdz> Jack_Sparrow, is it on /dev/sdb1 or something like that?
[02:22] <quintin> DJAdmiral: hmm yea me since 2 or 3.... there are pics of me on dad's lap at his first home computer.. he coded things in BASIC and machine language to teach me numbers, shapes, counting, letters, etc...
[02:22] <Zaronn> Jack_Sparrow:No its a dekstop
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> rdz: yes
[02:23] <KenSentMe> Hi. I'm running dual-desktop (desktop stretched over 2 screens) using the big desktop feature from ATI. Everything runs well, but Totem also stretches the video, just like my desktop is stretched. Anyone knows how i can get Totem to display videos normally? I'm running Ubuntu Dapper.
[02:23] <WRFC_Rabbit> home@home-desktop:~$ su chmod 0777  PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin
[02:23] <WRFC_Rabbit> Unknown id: chmod
[02:23] <DJAdmiral> quintin: You mean he used to code in binary? whoa.
[02:23] <quintin> DJAdmiral: assembler
[02:23] <rdz> Jack_Sparrow, ok, thanks, now i know that it is not recognized.......
[02:23] <wickedpuppy> is it me or more people chatting than helping or asking here ?
[02:23] <DJAdmiral> WRFC: You play Planeshift? wicked!
[02:24] <finalbeta> WRFC_Rabbit, eek, i'm all wrong :p it's sudo , not su indeed.
[02:24] <WRFC_Rabbit> not yet lol
[02:24] <DJAdmiral> quintin: Ah - I used to mess around in assembly too. I've read up on this operating system coded entirely in assembly. it fits on a floppy and is called menuetos.
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> quintin: LDA#$41
[02:24] <finalbeta> WRFC_Rabbit,  sudo chmod 0777  PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin & sudo ./PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin
[02:24] <DJAdmiral> WRFC_Rabbit: You want to use sudo chmod, not su chmod.
[02:25] <WRFC_Rabbit> home@home-desktop:~$ sudo chmod 0777  PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin
[02:25] <WRFC_Rabbit> chmod: cannot access `PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin': No such file or directory
[02:25] <quintin> DJAdmiral: yea I've used it before.  cute project.
[02:25] <Zaronn> Jack_Sparrow:Even VNC is black gonna telent and restart system :(
[02:25] <finalbeta> WRFC_Rabbit, please cd to the dir where you have the file first...
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[02:25] <DJAdmiral> WRFC_Rabbit: sudo chmod 0777 /path/to/planeshift/file
[02:25] <WRFC_Rabbit> ok cd Desktop??
[02:25] <quintin> How do I reinstall the bootloader from the LiveCD?  If I install win on this machine after installing Ubuntu first..
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[02:25] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:26] <finalbeta> It's 3PM. Just woke up, have a hangover. So later.
[02:26] <quintin> *steeples fingers*  excellent.
[02:26] <DJAdmiral> WRFC_Rabbit: not quite - try copying the file to your home folder first.
[02:26] <cripps_> KenSentMe, depends ... whats the resolution per screen?
[02:26] <roshlame> hello
[02:26] <DJAdmiral> quintin: wait!
[02:26] <g-nome> hello, i have a problem with my ubuntu amd64 live-cd, it it freezes at the "mount filesystem"
[02:26] <Emperor_Norton> menuetos is proprietary though =\
[02:26] <quintin> DJAdmiral: what am I waiting for? :">
[02:26] <g-nome> but it does not with the 32bit version :-( (and i have an amd64)
[02:26] <DJAdmiral> quintin: there is a faster solution: you ought to use SGD = Super GRUB Disk = worked wonders for me
[02:26] <KenSentMe> cripps_: 1280x1024
[02:27] <WRFC_Rabbit> kk
[02:27] <cripps_> KenSentMe, hm. It stretches resolution on both screens? The primrary and the secondary?
[02:27] <WRFC_Rabbit> do i need wide install??
[02:27] <DJAdmiral> Brb all
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> DJAdmiral: Also note that there is a Universal Boot CD with Super Grub and tons of tother tools as well
[02:27] <Emperor_Norton> of course I have one unresolved issue on my laptop, my max resolution is 1024x768
[02:28] <Emperor_Norton> Intel i810 chipset
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> DJAdmiral: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[02:28] <Zaronn> guys I want to telent and restart my machien but it asks me for the super user password and i never specified it.  is ther e adefault?
[02:28] <cripps_> DJAdmiral, menuetos is kinda fun ... I could never get the networking up though :/
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> DJAdmiral: MEant Ultimate.. not universal
[02:28] <KenSentMe> cripps_: cripps_ here's my xorg.conf http://lab.vandenieuwenhof.nl/files/xorg.conf
[02:29] <elmargol> Someone can recommend me a backup toll? I need incremental backups and a way to ignore some directories.
[02:29] <elmargol> tool
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[02:29] <CrippsFX> KenSentMe, I was asking about the totem stretching ...
[02:29] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[02:29] <Yaakov> Zaronn: sudo reboot
[02:29] <WRFC_Rabbit> what is system wide install for in planeshift install??
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> elmargol: for gui try ubackup
[02:29] <roshlame> Which package do I need in order for my totem-xine player to be able to play XviD encoded files?
[02:29] <CrippsFX> elmargol, using cron, tar, and regular expressions, you can do anything!
[02:29] <KenSentMe> CrippsFX: yes, it's stretched on both screens, but only the video, not the window the video is played in
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> elmargol: one sec.. that may be sbackup
[02:30] <CrippsFX> KenSentMe, hm. uhh ... have you tried using Xine instead? ;)
[02:30] <Zaronn> Yaakov:ty
[02:30] <g-nome> hello, i have a problem with my ubuntu amd64 live-cd, it it freezes at the "mount filesystem"
[02:30] <g-nome> but it does not with the 32bit version :-( (and i have an amd64)
[02:30] <CrippsFX> g-nome, have you done a media check?
[02:30] <KenSentMe> CrippsFX: i'm running xine
[02:31] <cfraz89> hi, has anyone here got aiglx on edgy going?
[02:31] <g-nome> CrippsFX: you mean a md5 check?
[02:31] <MERLiiN> yo
[02:31] <CrippsFX> cfraz89, edgy = #ubuntu+1
[02:31] <mewt> is there an edgy channel were i can ask questions about upgrading from daper to edgy
[02:31] <ziro01> hi
[02:31] <mewt> or should it be done here
[02:31] <mewt> ?
[02:31] <cfraz89> CrippsFX: thanks
[02:31] <WRFC_Rabbit> what window manager am i using??
[02:31] <CrippsFX> g-nome, no, did you verify the CD after burning?
[02:31] <MERLiiN> fun
[02:31] <ziro01> I'll find out
[02:31] <CrippsFX> cfraz89, np :)
[02:31] <cfraz89> WRFC_Rabbit: probably metacity
[02:31] <rdz> how can i find out, if there is support under ubuntu for " CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II"?
[02:32] <g-nome> CrippsFX: yes, and no errors
[02:32] <rdz> and if yes, how can i get it?
[02:32] <CrippsFX> KenSentMe, hm. To tell you the truth, I really don't know.
[02:32] <yourself_myself> cfraz89: i did!
[02:32] <CrippsFX> g-nome, well ... truth be known ... 64 bit isn't worth it yet anyways ;)
[02:32] <WRFC_Rabbit> how do i find out definately?? im running ubuntu 6.06
[02:32] <cfraz89> yourself_myself: cool :)
[02:32] <yourself_myself> :-)
[02:33] <yourself_myself> (running it now, actually)
[02:33] <cfraz89> yourself_myself: you used quinnstorm repos?
[02:33] <g-nome> CrippsFX: it is actually :-) you can most of the programs working
[02:33] <g-nome> any way i will reburn it
[02:33] <DJAdmiral> back - what'd I miss? lol
[02:33] <cfraz89> yourself_myself: i cant seem to find cgwd or csm in the repos for edgy
[02:33] <WRFC_Rabbit> KDE Gnome or other??
[02:33] <yourself_myself> deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz edgy main-edgy aiglx-edgy
[02:33] <CrippsFX> g-nome, yeah, but they're mostly just recompiled versions of the 32 bit counterparts ... no code for USING the processor options.
[02:34] <yourself_myself> add this to your sources.list
[02:34] <cfraz89> yourself_myself: yeah, used that :) but cgwd and csm is missing
[02:34] <yourself_myself> ??
[02:34] <cfraz89> i had xgl going in dapper
[02:34] <DJAdmiral> Jack_Sparrow: already know about the UBCD, thanks
[02:34] <cfraz89> but just installed edgy
[02:34] <yourself_myself> have you done "apt-get update"?
[02:34] <elmargol> Is dpkg --get-selections, the list of every installed and removed package on my system?
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> DJAdmiral: Running behind this morning :)
[02:34] <WRFC_Rabbit> DJAdmiral: do i need system wide install?? and what window manager do i choose
[02:35] <DJAdmiral> Jack_Sparrow: Not really - was just away.
[02:36] <KenSentMe> CrippsFX: well, no problem. You're not the only one :)
[02:36] <DJAdmiral> WRFC_Rabbit: No, that is not necessary and stick with GNOME.
[02:36] <CrippsFX> KenSentMe, :)
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> elmargol: Use Terminal type dpkg --get-selections > myprog.txt            to create a text file of installed programs
[02:36] <WRFC_Rabbit> okies ty
[02:36] <cfraz89> yourself_myself: thanks, ill try it again :)
[02:36] <DJAdmiral> Hey does anyone here know of the program that adds a menu called 'Debian' to the Applications menu?
[02:37] <WRFC_Rabbit> DJAdmiral: do i need to set the permissions??
[02:37] <CrippsFX> DJAdmiral, I can't remember ... on 32 bit Dapper I had that in there by default.
[02:37] <malice_> If I do this sudo ifconfig wlan0 down then change my mac addy and then sudo ifconfig wlan0 up, and then sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart then iwlist wlan0 scan will this then reactivate my pc card on my laptop and then I can connect to the wireless network with my spoofed mac addy?
[02:37] <yourself_myself> cfraz89: good luck
[02:38] <Starker> Hi..where can I get Dsl configurations from ?
[02:38] <cfraz89> thanks :)
[02:38] <WRFC_Rabbit> DJAdmiral: automatix done mine i think
[02:38] <Levure> Hello !
[02:38] <cfraz89> yourself_myself: :( i added that repo, and apt-get update
[02:38] <cfraz89> then apt-cache search cgwd give nothing
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> WRFC_Rabbit: Automatix is evil and will come back and bite you later.
[02:38] <CrippsFX> malice_, only one way to find out .... give it a shot.
[02:38] <WRFC_Rabbit> why??
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> WRFC_Rabbit: One of the worst things you can do to a system
[02:39] <malice_> cripps will any of these commands mess anything up?
[02:39] <DJAdmiral> WRFC_Rabbit: One thing - NEVER install automatix or easyubuntu - they screw up your ubuntu system
[02:39] <yourself_myself> cfraz89: hang on, i'll check mine
[02:39] <CrippsFX> malice_, doesn't look like it, no.
[02:39] <WRFC_Rabbit> whooops
[02:39] <cfraz89> thanks :)
[02:39] <malice_> ok thank
[02:39] <malice_> s
[02:39] <malice_> will try it
[02:39] <WRFC_Rabbit> can u uninstall it??
[02:39] <CrippsFX> malice_, np :)
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Nope
[02:39] <DJAdmiral> WRFC_Rabbit: With difficulty - yes
[02:39] <WRFC_Rabbit> oh well a fresh install later then lmao
[02:40] <Levure> I would like to install Ubuntu for a deaf user which don't understand english. Does Ubuntu 6.06 LTS from http://www.ubuntu.com/download contains french locales and french speaking programms (OpenOffice, Thunderbird, Firefox ?)
[02:40] <WRFC_Rabbit> do i need to set permissions??
[02:40] <DJAdmiral> WRFC_Rabbit: However all the stuff that you used automatix for cannot be reversed
[02:40] <WRFC_Rabbit> in the setup
[02:40] <Levure> I would like to have the Ubuntu running in french :-)
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> DJAdmiral: Full reinstall is much easier than untangling one of those
[02:40] <jpjacobs> Levure,  that shouldn't be a problem
[02:40] <DJAdmiral> WRFC_Rabbit: Could you be more specific? Or could you send me a screenie or something so I know exactly what you're talking about.
[02:41] <DJAdmiral> Jack_Sparrow: true. but in case you cannot afford to re-install - this is the only way to go
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed
[02:41] <Levure> jpjacobs: does it does everything in the installation to setup all in french ?
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !fr
[02:41] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:41] <Levure> Sorry :-)
[02:42] <saracen> hi all
[02:42] <saracen> i need some help for a friend of mine who's installed dapper
[02:42] <WRFC_Rabbit> its ok
[02:42] <saracen> this is the 2nd time he's updated and gotten to a black screen on reboot
[02:42] <WRFC_Rabbit> i worked it out :D
[02:42] <saracen> now he's afraid of updating
[02:42] <saracen> he just installed the kernel update to dapper
[02:43] <saracen> 2.6.15-27
[02:43] <DJAdmiral> WRFC_Rabbit: Oh cool.
[02:43] <saracen> reboot and no nvidia kernel module
[02:43] <saracen> it's happened to me a couple of times on edgy
[02:43] <saracen> i was just looking for the linux-restricted-modules for that version of the kernel
[02:43] <WRFC_Rabbit> brb
[02:45] <saracen> they don't exist
[02:45] <AnAnt> how can I configure the hardware clock to be GMT & the system clock to be according to my timezone ?
[02:45] <DJAdmiral> !time
[02:45] <ubotu> time: The GNU time program for measuring cpu resource usage. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7-21 (dapper), package size 31 kB, installed size 144 kB
[02:45] <DJAdmiral> !clock
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <DJAdmiral> oh well
[02:45] <WRFC_Rabbit> ouchies
[02:46] <CrippsFX> saracen, just do "apt-get upgrade linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`"
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> AnAnt: right click clock and go to properties should do it
[02:46] <WRFC_Rabbit> it wont launch any planeshift things
[02:46] <saracen> the modules aren't there
[02:46] <CrippsFX> saracen, I have the same kernel version, and the linux-restricted-modules to boot
[02:46] <saracen> i searched for them with apt-cache
[02:46] <WRFC_Rabbit> There was an error launching the application. apparently!
[02:46] <saracen> he's not very knowledgeable with this stuff
[02:46] <saracen> he just did an update with the update manager
[02:46] <saracen> rebooted and got a black screen
[02:47] <WRFC_Rabbit> Details: Failed to execute child process "/opt/PlaneShift/updater" (Permission denied)
[02:47] <saracen> what's ur output of apt-cache search linux-restricted-modules
[02:47] <saracen> i've ssh'ed into his pc to help him out
[02:47] <CrippsFX> saracen, just a sec.
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> saracen: Synaptic sees them
[02:48] <AnAnt> Jack_Sparrow: 1. I didn't get any properties (I use GNOME) 2. I tried time-admin
[02:48] <CrippsFX> saracen, http://pastebin.ca/184917
[02:48] <CrippsFX> kk ... gotta go ... shower time.
[02:48] <WRFC_Rabbit> DJAdmiral: how do i get round that?? i cant open planeshift unless im ROOT!
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> saracen: Did he by chance install anything with the automatix script that would have changed his sources
[02:49] <saracen> no, i've checked his sources
[02:49] <saracen> they're all at the default server
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> AnAnt: preferences and adjust date and time?
[02:49] <saracen> i'll upload his sources.list and the output of apt-cache search linux-restricted-modules
[02:50] <DJAdmiral> WRFC_Rabbit: sudo command?
[02:50] <quintin> now I am remembering why I don't use this for desktop.  It's a huge pain in the ass
[02:50] <WRFC_Rabbit> cant i open it from my desktop?
[02:50] <quintin> rather slow for this hardware too.  hrm
[02:50] <DJAdmiral> WRFC_Rabbit: You could create a desktop launcher.
[02:50] <WRFC_Rabbit> ok how do i do that??
[02:51] <saracen> Jack
[02:51] <saracen> http://pastebin.ca/184918
[02:51] <saracen> is the sources
[02:51] <Ych> is there really no flash newer than version 7 for ubuntu?
[02:51] <WRFC_Rabbit> i will need to make one for the installer, updater and the client
[02:51] <wickedpuppy> WRFC_Rabbit, right click on the desktop and you will see
[02:52] <cfraz89> Ych: version 9 is in the making, but for now, 7 is newest for linux
[02:52] <atk> Hi. I have finnish keyboard layout and I want to switch the usage of + and ? (same key, question mark comes with shift pressed). A quick overview of the process?
[02:52] <Ych> cfraz89, that sucks, all the websites require >8
[02:52] <gupta> hey is there a software repo cd for ubuntu tha can be downloaded ?
[02:53] <cfraz89> Ych, yeah...
[02:53] <wickedpuppy> !repos
[02:53] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:53] <Ych> what with that, and wmv streaming not working im considering switching back to XP
[02:53] <WRFC_Rabbit> what do i type into the command boxes n stuff?
[02:53] <saracen> Jack
[02:53] <saracen> this is the output of apt-cache-search linux-restricted-modules
[02:53] <saracen> http://pastebin.ca/184921
[02:54] <DJAdmiral> WRFC_Rabbit: sudo <insert command here>
[02:54] <cfraz89> Ych: video streaming shouldnt be too hard
[02:54] <DJAdmiral> WRFC_Rabbit: Maybe I could look up something appropriate on Planeshift's website.
[02:54] <cfraz89> plus its not long until flash 9 comes out
[02:54] <WRFC_Rabbit> ok
[02:54] <Ych> cfraz89, so they say, but all the players with a stream client (vlc, mplayer) refuse to play wmvs for me
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> saracen: He has some repos rem's out that he might need?
[02:54] <Ych> even though i did all the w32 stuff
[02:55] <saracen> which ones
[02:55] <cfraz89> Ych, did you try totem?
[02:55] <saracen> the main ones are in
[02:55] <saracen> and security
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> saracen: I can uncomment mine and reload but I think that'ss be it.
[02:55] <Ych> cfraz89, totem plays them fine locally, but im not sure how to make totem stream the wmvs as a browser plugin
[02:55] <tomas_> I am having some annoying issues... I just installed the newest driver from nvidia.com on ubuntu dapper. The install seems to go fine and the driver works just fine with the exception of that it stops working after a reboot. I have to launch the nvidia installer after each reboot which is starting to drive me nuts.
[02:56] <tomas_> I also think i know the reason... X.org complains about some older nvidia kernel being in conflict, which means that some other driver is being loaded upon boot
[02:56] <tomas_> but i have no idea on how to remove this
[02:56] <saracen> OK Jack, that may be the case
[02:56] <saracen> but if u look at the sources
[02:56] <saracen> main is in, updates are all in (universe and multiverse)
[02:56] <saracen> and so are backports
[02:56] <quintin> zomg!!!
[02:56] <quintin> My sound does not work
[02:56] <quintin> lame!
[02:57] <Mille> I'm once again looking for programs... what partition manager can I use to move and resize my partitions? even ntfs.
[02:57] <quintin> Mille: there is one with the ubuntu installer that works.  You could also get hiren's bootcd
[02:57] <cfraz89> Ych, i think the plugin is an extra download in synaptic
[02:57] <Bastupungen> hello!
[02:57] <Bastupungen> Is there any fast say to check my kernel hz (kernel timer resolution in windows)
[02:58] <cfraz89> like totem-mozilla-plugin or something
[02:58] <tomas_> anyone have an idea on how to solve this problem?
[02:58] <cfraz89> not sure, i use kubuntu and kaffeine myself
[02:58] <Mille> quintin, can it move and resize ntfs partitions? then i guess i can use it from ubuntu, huh?
[02:58] <quintin> Bastupungen: it's kernel timer in any kernel ... windows or linux or whatever.  and UTSL
[02:58] <quintin> Mille: don't use an ambigous pronoun!!
[02:59] <kempo> hello
[02:59] <donna> How do I access the console on ubuntu?
[02:59] <saracen> the kernel modules are in restricted
[02:59] <Mille> quintin?
[02:59] <quintin> my gfx performance is sucking too.  can't run zsnes
[02:59] <Bastupungen> ok kernel timer (some people call it kernel timer resolution)
[02:59] <Ych> cfraz89, ill look for that
[02:59] <quintin> Mille: wtf is "it"?!
[02:59] <saracen> i have restricted available under all the repos
[02:59] <DJAdmiral> donna: Applications > Accessories > Terminal is what I believe you're looking for
[02:59] <quintin> Bastupungen: use the source, Luke! :)  I don't know any other way honestly
[02:59] <donna> Thanks
[02:59] <quintin> Bastupungen: if it is modern it is probably 1000hz
[03:00] <donna> Thank you very much
[03:00] <Bastupungen> quintin: Yeah i have made a custom kernel with that option set but i wan't to double check because im getting mixxed messages
[03:00] <kempo> does ubuntu work on macbookpro? and, are there working drivers for all peripheries?
[03:00] <toby> anyone know the keyboard shortcut for switching mouse cursor between different monitors?
[03:00] <DethKlok> How well does Linux support Tablet PC's?
[03:01] <quintin> kempo: you really want to install linux over macos?
[03:01] <DJAdmiral> kempo: Ubuntu does work on Apple computers, yes - however you need a mac installation cd for that.
[03:01] <Bastupungen> quintin: I'd do that any day! =)
[03:01] <DJAdmiral> DethKlok: Quite well - there are plenty of apps that support it.
[03:01] <kempo> quintin: why not?
[03:01] <DJAdmiral> quintin: Linux is better than any OS. Hands down. Period. Capice.
[03:01] <quintin> Bastupungen: icky
[03:02] <quintin> Mac is much better for desktop
[03:02] <CrippsFX> DJAdmiral, non Capice :P
[03:02] <quintin> and FreeBSD < Linux
[03:02] <tomas_> anyone? :(
[03:02] <CrippsFX> and all < BeOS
[03:02] <CrippsFX> :P
[03:02] <quintin> BeOS was fun
[03:02] <Bastupungen> quintin: I have an Ibook and have been working with both linux and OS X.. they have their quirks but i like linux better
[03:02] <tomas_> am i the only ubuntu user who use the drivers from nvidia.com?
[03:02] <quintin> too bad about the way it went
[03:02] <CrippsFX> quintin, yeah ... can't wait for the FOSS version to come out ... "Glass Elevator"
[03:03] <toby> tomas_ why not the ubuntu ones?
[03:03] <alluc> I have a maple datafile, hox can I read its content ?
[03:03] <alluc> (on ubuntu)
[03:03] <tomas_> toby, because the one from nvida.com is newer
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> saracen: You still here?
[03:04] <CrippsFX> alluc, Maple can be installed under linux ...
[03:04] <saracen> yeah
[03:04] <kempo> does kismet work on a macbook?
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> I just replaced mine with his and I see them
[03:04] <alluc> CrippsFX: where to get it, is it a freeware ?
[03:04] <tomas_> the problem is that the ubuntu ones conflict with it and i have no idea on how to remove them
[03:04] <khaije1> has anyone here tried a/o had any success w/ the iommu nvidia patch?
[03:04] <saracen> that's so strange... I just updated and I don't see them
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> saracen: Did he reload after making changses?
[03:05] <toby> tomas_ by much? - the ubuntu ones get update without me having to do much for me it's not worth the hassel doing it manually
[03:05] <saracen> ya, and i just did apt-get update right now
[03:05] <Gilnim> !flash
[03:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:05] <CrippsFX> alluc, no ... it is a commercial product ... if you're using maple at school though, you should be able to get your hands on a cd and key (legally) ...
[03:05] <tomas_> toby, seems to be quite a bit older in dapper atleast..
[03:05] <tomas_> and i recall i had some issues with them before
[03:06] <saracen> any clue as to what it could be
[03:06] <alluc> CrippsFX: Can I convert a mapple file into something freeware then ?
[03:06] <saracen> i'm totally stumped because he sees the other versions
[03:06] <saracen> 26 and 25
[03:06] <saracen> but not 27
[03:06] <toby> tomas_ shame sometimes these things are like fluxbox but i'm for the easy life
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> I see 27 386 and 686
[03:07] <CrippsFX> alluc, it's possible, yes, but I don't know of any utilities offhand. How did you get a maple data file anyways? What's interesting about it if you don't know what it is?
[03:07] <saracen> ya... I believe you.  I see them in packages.ubuntu.com as well
[03:07] <scrp> *cry* everytime i change the setting from NV to NVIDIA in xorg.conf my X graphics get better but i lose my console ....
[03:07] <saracen> I just don't know why he doesn't
[03:07] <CrippsFX> scrp, ouch ... not worth it.
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> saracen: Me either...
[03:07] <saracen> i've updated like 10 times since we started talking...
[03:08] <saracen> nothing
[03:08] <alluc> CrippsFX: it's a chinese dictionary, quite old
[03:08] <scrp> CrippsFX: well... if i dont have it nvidia then screensavers even lag
[03:08] <CrippsFX> alluc, I see ... maybe there's a *different* maple that I don't know about ... but the one that I know about is a mathematical scripting language.
[03:08] <scrp> CrippsFX: so i have to choose either X or console...(also when i bootup my screen goes fubar and when i shutdown it goes blank until it shuts down)
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> saracen: Im going to go put my sources back.. brb
[03:09] <CrippsFX> scrp, I know that feeling.
[03:09] <quintin> FOSS BeOS ?!  Explain yourself!
[03:09] <saracen> ok
[03:09] <ThomS> Wonmdering if anyone could help? I've just done a fresh install on my laptop and it recognised the built-in and slot for the wireless card but when i try and configure them in network settings it can't find any networks
[03:09] <quintin> Ok, sound doesn't work, graphics sux, I'm gonna just stick with win on desktop for now I guess
[03:09] <alluc> CrippsFX: when I use the command file, it says it's a mapple file
[03:09] <scrp> ThomS: are you using administration > networking ?
[03:09] <ThomS> scrp: yep
[03:09] <CrippsFX> quintin, one of the engineers who worked on BeOS had his own microkernel, and they're rebuilding BeOS under GNU, under a different name to prevent naming disputes.
[03:10] <scrp> ThomS: should be a scroll down list with the networks detected there
[03:10] <DJAdmiral> hey WRFC_Rabbit
[03:10] <WRFC_Rabbit> hi again
[03:10] <alluc> CrippsFX: "Maple help database" to be more precise
[03:10] <WRFC_Rabbit> my computer froze after i tried openin a launcher i made
[03:10] <quintin> CrippsFX: intriguing.  so many versions of it!  there is that yellow tab thingie too.  hmm
[03:10] <donna> Is there a way for me to find out my root password?
[03:10] <quintin> Anyone here use zsnes with good perormanc?
[03:10] <CrippsFX> quintin, so it's not just like one of those linux *clones* of BeOS ... but it'll actually be darn near the original. They're aiming to have release version one be equivalent to BeOS r5
[03:11] <donna> Is there a way for me to find out my root password?
[03:11] <CrippsFX> quintin, the one you'd be looking for would be "glass elevator" I do believe ... it'll probably have the yellow tab.
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> saracen: Dont know what to tell you...  We can both see they are there..  is he spelling something wrong?
[03:11] <scrp> donna: sudo su
[03:11] <donna> thanks
[03:11] <scrp> donna: then change teh password
[03:11] <ThomS> scrp: yeah I've used it on my desktop no problems, which is why I can't figure out whats wrong
[03:11] <scrp> ThomS: then i have no idea :P
[03:12] <ThomS> scrp: haha cheers anyway bud
[03:12] <saracen> no... it's not even him now.  It's me.  I've ssh'ed into his pc and am running the commands myself
[03:12] <saracen> sudo apt-get update
[03:12] <saracen> done it 10 times already...
[03:12] <CrippsFX> quintin, http://community.sgdotnet.org/blogs/triplez/archive/2005/08/17/19604.aspx
[03:12] <saracen> Really really weird...
[03:12] <saracen> poor guy
[03:12] <saracen> i've convinced him to use ubuntu and now this is the second time he updates and gets a black screen
[03:12] <WRFC_Rabbit> DJAdmiral: did u find a solution for me??
[03:13] <DJAdmiral> quintin: I'm downloading zsnes as i speak. However it's also downloading with 1500 megs of other stuff lol
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> saracen: leave a 386 basic setup in his grub
[03:13] <CrippsFX> quintin, right ... they changed the name again: http://haiku-os.org/
[03:13] <saracen> ya, I've left version 26 there
[03:13] <saracen> he can boot in with that fine
[03:13] <saracen> we tried it
[03:13] <DJAdmiral> WRFC_Rabbit: Unfortunately no - they didn't provide any detailed help for the installation
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> saracen: Sorry to point out the obvious
[03:13] <WRFC_Rabbit> aaaw
[03:13] <saracen> no, it's alright
[03:14] <saracen> i appreciate the help but i'm just really really stumped now
[03:14] <quintin>  hso any zsnes users?
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> saracen: Have hiom boot to that and see if he sees the restricted modules with Synaptic
[03:14] <WRFC_Rabbit> DJAdmiral: how would i create a launcher for each one??
[03:14] <donna> Every time I type in sudo su it comes up with password: what should I type in for the passwd? and is there a way I can change the passwd
[03:14] <DJAdmiral> quintin: besides me, I don't suppose so.
[03:14] <saracen> if u use the command line u see them right?
[03:14] <saracen> apt-cache search
[03:14] <saracen> they're tied in together so i'd assume they see the same thing
[03:14] <DJAdmiral> donna: do this instead: Type in your account password, donna
[03:15] <DJAdmiral> WRFC_Rabbit: Right click on the desktop and click create launcher.
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> saracen: I dont use apt I am a gui guy.. you want me to see if apt sees them
[03:15] <saracen> yeah... if u could
[03:15] <saracen> just run apt-cache search linux-restricted-modules
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> one sec..
[03:16] <WRFC_Rabbit> then in the command?? /opt/PlaneShift/updater??
[03:16] <ThomS> scrp: If you're interested, I've just found this which I think it must be https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/59159
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> saracen: 27-386 and 686 are there
[03:16] <DJAdmiral> WRFC_Rabbit: sudo /opt/PlaneShift/updater
[03:16] <saracen> damn it
[03:16] <saracen> !!!
[03:16] <WRFC_Rabbit> kk
[03:16] <WRFC_Rabbit> run in terminal??
[03:16] <DJAdmiral> WRFC_Rabbit: no wait: gksudo /opt/PlaneShift/updater
[03:17] <tomas_> so.. no one knows how i can remove the ubuntu nvidia drivers/kernel without also removing all other modules?
[03:17] <DJAdmiral> WRFC_Rabbit: no do not run in terminal but instead of sudo put in gksudo
[03:17] <willa> hi, how can i clean up my ubuntu system? Is there any command i can use to do so ?
[03:17] <WRFC_Rabbit> okies
[03:17] <DJAdmiral> willa: there is a program for that.
[03:17] <tomas_> as in those that come with linux-restricted-modules or something like that
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> saracen: I could paste his sources back into my box and try to reload and search but I think we both know the answer
[03:17] <saracen> yeah... no that's fine
[03:17] <willa> Djadmiral : which is call?
[03:17] <saracen> thanks for the help
[03:17] <saracen> i'm gonna file a bug and see if i can get more info
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> saracen: Anything else I can help you with?
[03:18] <saracen> i've tried everything else I can think of
[03:18] <DJAdmiral> willa: I don't recall but I think it's called KCleanup or something - you'll need to download and install it from the repos though
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> saracen: Have him look with synaptic
[03:18] <wcr3d> May I ask a question that might be considered stupid?
[03:18] <saracen> sure
[03:18] <DJAdmiral> wcr3d: shoot.
[03:18] <saracen> thanks again
[03:18] <willa> I see, but i'm using gnome.
[03:18] <scrp> how do i install .bin files?
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> wcr3d: I ask stupid questions all the time, I could use company
[03:19] <DJAdmiral> willa: That's no problem.
[03:19] <willa> Djadmiral : i find that my system is cluttered with junks.
[03:19] <DJAdmiral> willa: I run KDE apps on GNOME all the time.
[03:19] <willa> want to remove all those useless programs etc..
[03:19] <wcr3d> I have a box thats limited on cpu and ram, meets minimum but can't handle going through the live cd to install. Is there a way to skip the live part and just install?
[03:19] <lucasvo> how comes that gparted says my swap is mountend( I am working with the install cd) and the command umount /dev/hda1 is not working?
[03:19] <scrp> omgzor google earth isnt in the dapper!!!
[03:19] <DJAdmiral> wcr3d: in that case you need the alternate install cd.
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> wcr3d: There is the alternate, but I would suggest you try something lighter
[03:20] <wcr3d> Lighter as in?
[03:20] <DJAdmiral> scrp: You need to install it from Google's website.
[03:20] <DJAdmiral> wcr3d: as in try Xubuntu instead.
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> DJAdmiral: Thanks... tried to sheak a sip of coffee  :)
[03:20] <wcr3d> Will it go through the live part just to install?
[03:21] <DJAdmiral> wcr3d: My advice? go with the ubuntu alternate cd but if ubuntu runs slow, go with xubuntu
[03:21] <DJAdmiral> wcr3d: No, I think there is an alternate cd for xubuntu as well
[03:21] <wcr3d> Ok, thank you. :-)
[03:21] <DJAdmiral> Jack_Sparrow: I got ya covered :P
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> wcr3d: The live cd will be much slower than the installed version
[03:21] <DJAdmiral> Anytime, wcr3d! :D
[03:22] <wcr3d> Yes, I seen. I was just trying to avoid the live part and get down to the install...ahha
[03:22] <wideinsight> Can somebody tell me how to install XGL?
[03:22] <DJAdmiral> !xgl > wideinsight
[03:22] <wcr3d> Thanks....byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:22] <scrp> DJAdmiral: yea i downloaded a .bin file from google
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[03:22] <Bastupungen> Anyone here who knows of a way to check if Hyper-Threading is set to be used in the kernel?
[03:22] <brong> wideinsight: there's a great howto on the ubuntu forums...
[03:22] <scrp> DJAdmiral: do i just run it with sh filename.bin
[03:22] <DJAdmiral> I love helping people. It makes you feel so good.
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> scrp: Google-earth..?
[03:23] <wideinsight> I read it ,but it doesn't work
[03:23] <WRFC_Rabbit> well isnt that a bummer!
[03:23] <DJAdmiral> scrp: don't remember, basically try sudo ./filename.bin
[03:23] <scrp> Jack_Sparrow: Jack_Sparrow yeah! google earth is teh shiznit
[03:23] <brong> wideinsight: what sort of errors were you getting ?
[03:23] <DJAdmiral> !language
[03:23] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:23] <WRFC_Rabbit> the updater must be corrupt
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> scrp: Linux version works great
[03:24] <scrp> Jack_Sparrow: yep
[03:24] <Mille> can i create a rescue floppy disk in ubuntu that is able to move and resize partitions?
[03:24] <DJAdmiral> WRFC_Rabbit: If you really wanna run Planeshift, run it on windoze.
[03:24] <scrp> so i wonder, how often are the pictures on google earth updated ?
[03:24] <willa> what daemon can i run , any suggestion?
[03:24] <WRFC_Rabbit> it doesnt matter
[03:24] <DJAdmiral> scrp: depends from region to region.
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Mille: The livecd has gparted on it.
[03:25] <WRFC_Rabbit> i just wanted something that ran on Ubuntu that was something like Conquer Online!
[03:25] <Ignite_> Mille, that's what the livecd is for. :-)
[03:25] <wideinsight> I can't get the sources of  libxorg-sched-yield-hack0,and can't go on
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> scrp: some are years old, more populous places are newer
[03:25] <Mille> Jack_Sparrow, can I make the cd not start the x-window-system?
[03:25] <DJAdmiral> WRFC_Rabbit: There is a pretty large selection of cool strategy games in the repos.
[03:25] <Mille> Ignite_, takes like forever to boot it up. :p
[03:26] <WRFC_Rabbit> its a shame that Conquer doesnt work :(
[03:26] <Ignite_> Mille, you can get specialised distros that might be of use to you, check out distrowatch.com. :-D
[03:26] <snarf> is the new python 2.5 in ubuntu now? i'd like to try it
,I can't get the sources of  libxorg-sched-yield-hack0,and can't go on
[03:26] <scrp> man :( google earth isnt running so smooth
[03:26] <WRFC_Rabbit> and my printer doesnt :(
[03:26] <MrNaz> whats the IM client that ubuntu uses for MSN at the moment?
[03:26] <scrp> the graphics are all fubar
[03:26] <sergo> hello, an Qt library it's needed to be installed in order to compile an program what i need
[03:26] <sergo> from where to download this package?
[03:26] <Ignite_> MrNaz, the generally bundled one is GAIM.
[03:27] <WRFC_Rabbit> amsn is the best
[03:27] <Mille> Ignite_, i'll only need a tool to move and resize partitions :-)
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Mille: Probably took you longer to come here and ask that question than to boot the live cd to rework your partitions, but you can google UBCD Universal boot cd..
[03:27] <DJAdmiral> MrNaz: There is GAIM but there's also amsn and a few others.
[03:27] <Ignite_> Mille, check out the gparted live CD.
[03:27] <rendo> It seems my streaming media in firefox is broken.  I just tried to re-install totem-xine and the totem-firefox plugin, but it's still broken.  I remember there was an update a week or so ago and I haven't tried to play media since, anyone know what's wrong?
[03:27] <DJAdmiral> Jack_Sparrow: Actually UBCD alone will just do lol
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[03:27] <MrNaz> Ignite_: Gaim stopped working with the latest revision of the MSN protocol, and the ubuntu package hasnt been updated... i tried to compile the newest gaim from source but there are too many dependencies for my level of skill/patience
[03:27] <Ignite_> Mille, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php <-= there ya go! :-D
[03:28] <WRFC_Rabbit> can anyone find out if i can get a driver on ubuntu for a epson stylus photo rx420
[03:28] <Bastupungen> Hyper-threading in Linux, On or OFF?
[03:28] <Mille> Ignite_, ah. thanks alot. :-)
[03:28] <WRFC_Rabbit> i looked on the sys compatability webby and couldnt find it
[03:28] <Ignite_> MrNaz, you could try aMSN.
[03:28] <DJAdmiral> MrNaz: MSN with GAIM is working just fine for me atm.
[03:28] <Ignite_> MrNaz, I'm also using MSN fine with GAIM.
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Ignite_: UBCD had gparted on it as well as lots of other good tools.
[03:28] <hovan> wideinsight, what are you doing now?
[03:29] <Ignite_> Jack_Sparrow, yeah I know, but she/he only needs to edit partitions, it would be a waste of bandwidth. :-P
[03:29] <DJAdmiral> MrNaz: That msn crashing thing only happened on windoze really.
[03:29] <DJAdmiral> MrNaz: try and see if you can login to msn with GAIM right now - if that fails - I can probably help you compile GAIM.
[03:29] <MrNaz> DJAdmiral: yeap... gaim doesnt crash in linux... but it doesnt connect properly either
[03:29] <MrNaz> DJAdmiral: ok lemme try again
[03:29] <rendo> It seems my streaming media in firefox is broken.  I just tried to re-install totem-xine and the totem-firefox plugin, but it's still broken.  I remember there was an update a week or so ago and I haven't tried to play media since, anyone know what's wrong?
[03:30] <wideinsight> finding some sources,and try again,can you tell me a source?
[03:30] <DJAdmiral> MrNaz: Says who? I'm able to connect just fine!
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Ignite_: I'm thinking they are planning on doing this more than once / one machine else booting the live wouldnt be an issue...  Agreed, single tool for the one job.
[03:30] <Ignite_> :-)
[03:30] <tomas_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=181696 <--- here is exactly the same problem as i am having
[03:30] <MrNaz> DJAdmiral: i tried it and it didnt work... but its perfectly possible that im just a noob (i moved to linux desktop after using win32 forever only 3 days ago)
[03:31] <DJAdmiral> MrNaz: Hmm. If you want - I might be able to help you compile a newer GAIM
[03:32] <MrNaz> DJAdmiral: yes, you're right, i am indeed a noob. it connected fine that time... although i swear it didnt the last time i tried a few days ago... perhaps there was something else preventing it...
[03:32] <sergo> hey
[03:32] <DJAdmiral> rendo: Maybe you want to try mplayer instead.
[03:32] <MrNaz> DJAdmiral: no need... but thanks anyway
[03:32] <sergo> what is this QT compiler and from where to download it?!!?!?!!
[03:33] <sergo> i'm fucking bored
[03:33] <DJAdmiral> MrNaz: hey - I was a noob once
[03:33] <DJAdmiral> !language
[03:33] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:33] <DJAdmiral> sergo: try sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:33] <JacksLivr> morning all. is there a gui script that I can run to add the native 1440x900 resolution to my display? I have edited the xorg.conf and added it with no help.
[03:33] <DJAdmiral> sergo: if that doesn't solve your problem come back here but please do wash your mouth with soap :P
[03:34] <sergo> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:34] <SdobSiSdub> who can help me! how use 'cd' command in i know only $0
[03:34] <rendo> DJAdmiral:  What's the mplayer plugin for firefox?
[03:34] <SdobSiSdub> in script
[03:34] <hovan> JacksLivr,good evening!:)
[03:35] <sergo> now is good
[03:35] <sergo> i have closed synaptic..
[03:35] <DJAdmiral> rendo: basically just install MPlayer first from Applications > Add/remove and then apt-get the mplayer for firefox.
[03:35] <pancho> hey
[03:35] <SdobSiSdub> who can help me! how use 'cd' command in script if i know only $0
[03:35] <JacksLivr> hovan: hi
[03:35] <Samuel> #ubuntu-it
[03:35] <pancho> How can I install UBUNTU..... without loading the OS first from cd?
[03:35] <hovan> JacksLivr, hi   ^_^
[03:36] <sergo> Qt library is required to compile VyQChat!
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> pancho: Alternatecd
[03:36] <SdobSiSdub> who can help me! how use 'cd' command in script if i know only $0
[03:36] <JacksLivr> morning all. is there a gui script that I can run to add the native 1440x900 resolution to my display? I have edited the xorg.conf and added it with no help.
[03:37] <pancho> Jack_Sparrow... what is "Alternatecd" ? is it a command line command?
[03:37] <jfdbmi> I am trying to get key but I get connection timed out what should I do
[03:37] <DJAdmiral> pancho: No, it's a different CD to use.
[03:37] <sergo> DJAdmiral: doesn't work
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> pancho: Not a command line thing. the server edition is aka  alternate cd  that you download
[03:37] <DJAdmiral> pancho: It's a different CD which you can use to install ubuntu.
[03:37] <pancho> where can I download that CD? Is it in the page?
[03:37] <rendo> DJAdmiral:  What's the mplayer plugin for firefox?
[03:37] <DJAdmiral> sergo: try rebooting?
[03:37] <rendo> I can't find it.
[03:38] <DJAdmiral> rendo: it's mplayer for firefox :P just get mplayer by itself first
[03:38] <LjL> pancho: why don't you check the page? it's quicker than asking and waiting for an answer ;)
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> People, play nice...   back in 10
[03:39] <Sick> When i run GParted with the 5.1 liveCD i get: "At least one operation was applied to a busy device." any idea what i do wrong ????
[03:39] <rendo> So what's the apt-get section to use since I can't FIND it.
[03:39] <pancho> LjL... perhaps because I have already done so?
[03:39] <sergo> DJAdmiral: reboot?
[03:39] <sergo> no
[03:40] <sergo> this is linux not windows?
[03:40] <sergo> :)
[03:40] <LjL> pancho, well, perhaps then do it again, because i can see the title "Alternate install CD" after the "Server install CD" part...
[03:40] <pancho> oh.. I found it.. sorry
[03:40] <sergo> ok
[03:40] <jfdbmi> i am getting connecting to people.ubuntu.com|1.0.0.0|:80... and the connection times out
[03:40] <DJAdmiral> sergo: You can reboot in linux too :P
[03:40] <sergo> yes, but if this is requested
[03:42] <jfdbmi> what do I do?
[03:42] <Sick> i try to resize my existing linux partition. what can be wrong ?
[03:42] <ProN00b> haha, i just had the worst idea ever
[03:42] <Sick> and the partition isn't mounted.
[03:42] <ProN00b> play a 3d java mmorpg with ok graphics on linux
[03:43] <DJAdmiral> ProN00b: You're talking about runescape? lol
[03:43] <jfdbmi> does anyone care to answer my query?
[03:43] <jamtits> !ati
[03:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:43] <DJAdmiral> ProN00b: I can play Runescape just fine on ubuntu.
[03:44] <g-nome> i've got a problem: every time i want to start openoffice, it displays the splash screen and then nothing !?
[03:44] <LjL> jfdbmi: honestly i don't know what you mean with the "|1.0.0.0|" in the url?
[03:44] <g-nome> the same for gimp
[03:44] <ProN00b> DJAdmiral, god no, sorry... gotta correct myself, it was not the worst idea, runescape would be the worst...
[03:44] <jfdbmi> this is what I get in konsole
[03:44] <KenSentMe> g-nome: have you tried running it from command line and see what error you get?
[03:45] <LjL> jfdbmi: hm well what is it that you're trying to do anyway?
[03:45] <sergo> DJAdmiral.. it's the same problem configure: error: "Qt library is required to compile VyQChat!"
[03:45] <DJAdmiral> g-nome: probably something wrong with GTK.
[03:45] <g-nome> KenSentMe: what's the command, openoffice?
[03:45] <jfdbmi> I had typed wget url
[03:45] <jamtits> !ati synaptic
[03:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ati synaptic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:45] <Zaronn> whats the command ot start inetd?
[03:45] <LjL> jfdbmi: url in that case being what?
[03:45] <sergo> !ati
[03:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:45] <sergo> !synaptic
[03:45] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[03:45] <jfdbmi> http://people.ubuntu.com
[03:46] <WRFC_Rabbit> DJAdmiral: im sooooo bored lol
[03:46] <DJAdmiral> ProN00b: rofl - there isn't any other java 3d mmorpg out there besides runescape, really.
[03:46] <KenSentMe> g-nome: i think
[03:46] <LjL> jfdbmi: well, it seems like the hostname isn't being resolved correctly (gets resolved to 1.0.0.0, i suppose)
[03:46] <g-nome> KenSentMe: it says something like "segmentation fault"
[03:46] <jazzrocker> can i use wildcards in /etc/hosts ?
[03:46] <LjL> jfdbmi: can you access http://people.ubuntu.com from a browser?
[03:46] <JVG> ?
[03:46] <ProN00b> DJAdmiral, wurm online
[03:46] <DJAdmiral> WRFC_Rabbit: Try Frozen bubble? lol
[03:46] <KenSentMe> g-nome: and gimp?
[03:46] <jfdbmi> yes
[03:46] <WRFC_Rabbit> frozen bubble??
[03:46] <g-nome> DJAdmiral: it's a fresh install (amd64), so what should i do
[03:46] <Hoxzer> :)
[03:46] <MonsieurBon> hello
[03:46] <DJAdmiral> ProN00b: that's a java 3d mmorpg?
[03:47] <ProN00b> DJAdmiral, ya, it says it is
[03:47] <LjL> jfdbmi: well, the wget thing works for me here. are you by any chance behind a web proxy? or some kind of firewall?
[03:47] <g-nome> KenSentMe: assertion failed
[03:47] <MonsieurBon> how can I define, that I can issue vpnc and vpnc-disconnect without sudo?
[03:47] <DJAdmiral> g-nome: just try searching around for GTK?
[03:47] <ProN00b> ~2500 glxgears fps, is that bad ?
[03:47] <jfdbmi> I use a ADSL router
[03:47] <WRFC_Rabbit> how do i get frozen bubble??
[03:47] <wickedpuppy> ProN00b, yes and no .. i get 5000+
[03:47] <g-nome> i don't know what to do since it's all fresh installed, i can't see what can be wrong
[03:47] <jfdbmi> can u give me instructions to check
[03:48] <genesis[OFT] > Hi guys....I'm having trouble with Samba and Active Directory Authentication....anyone help?
[03:48] <wickedpuppy> WRFC_Rabbit, synaptic ?
[03:48] <LjL> jfdbmi: well try this, wget http://82.211.81.132
[03:48] <Hoxzer> I have a jackd installed and I want to uninstall it however gdm doesn't load if it isn't installed. Is there any config file or something that I could edit
[03:48] <jfdbmi> in konsole or browser?
[03:48] <LjL> jfdbmi: in console, "wget http://82.211.81.132"
[03:48] <THX-1138> WRFC_Rabbit. synaptic search "neverball" - monkeyball for linux
[03:48] <genesis[OFT] > well...i'll ask anyway
[03:48] <ProN00b> wickedpuppy, what hardware is that ?
[03:48] <jamtits> Okay, I got a question now. So I went to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI following the link !ati gave me. And boy, that's a lot of stuff to get a (still rubbish, thanks ati) driver. Yet I went on synaptic, and found the xorg driver there! Installed it in under a minute
[03:48] <LjL> jfdbmi: that's just the IP address for people.ubuntu.com
[03:49] <THX-1138> Flightgear.
[03:49] <sergo> DJAdmiral
[03:49] <wickedpuppy> ProN00b, nvidia 5200 ..
[03:49] <Sick> where can i get GParted help ???
[03:49] <jamtits> !restricted
[03:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:49] <wickedpuppy> ProN00b, gforce FX 5500
[03:50] <genesis[OFT] > I'm able to join the AD domain, i'm able to 'wbinfo -u' and'wbinfo -g', but I can't seem to, for the life of me, get 'getent passwd' or 'getend group' to work....they just display the local users and groups
[03:50] <jamtits> !hiddenrepositories
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hiddenrepositories - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:50] <jfdbmi>  what is supposed to happen with wget http://82.211.81.132?
[03:50] <jamtits> !repositories
[03:50] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:50] <THX-1138> Sick -Getting errors?
[03:50] <WRFC_Rabbit> whats frozen bubble??
[03:50] <DJAdmiral> WRFC_Rabbit: it's another game.
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> WRFC_Rabbit, puzzle bubble clone
[03:50] <LjL> jfdbmi: the same thing that should happen with "wget http://people.ubuntu.com", if it worked -- i.e. download the index.html page from that server
[03:50] <WRFC_Rabbit> kk
[03:50] <genesis[OFT] > I'm able to join the AD domain, i'm able to 'wbinfo -u' and'wbinfo -g', but I can't seem to, for the life of me, get 'getent passwd' or 'getend group' to work....they just display the local users and groups
[03:50] <genesis[OFT] > can anyone help?
[03:50] <THX-1138> WRFC_Rabbit - Americas Army.
[03:51] <WRFC_Rabbit> i search all these in synaptic?
[03:51] <jfdbmi> yes there is a line that says index.html saved [873/873] 
[03:51] <sergo> heh
[03:51] <sergo> noone want to help me
[03:51] <genesis[OFT] > can anyone help me?
[03:51] <genesis[OFT] > it's kinda urgent...
[03:51] <lordrahl> how can i install ndiswrapper on ubuntu without having to use make install? make dosent work for me. :( anyone having a howto?
[03:51] <LjL> jfdbmi: then you do have a DNS problem... to check, try this: "nslookup people.ubuntu.com" -- if it says it cannot resolve it, or it gives "1.0.0.0" as the address, then your DNS servers are acting up
[03:51] <Zaronn> whats the command ot start inetd?
[03:52] <genesis[OFT] > lordrah1 - it should be in synaptic, you shouldn't have to compile it, as far as i'm awre
[03:52] <jamtits> !cedega
[03:52] <DJAdmiral> WRFC_Rabbit: basically for all your linux gaming needs, go to www.linuxgames.com
[03:52] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[03:52] <sergo> LjL: QT library what is this? and feom where to install it
[03:52] <snarf> to install the 686 kernel do i install linux-686 or linux-image-686?
[03:52] <LjL> jfdbmi: but why were you doing "wget http://people.ubuntu.com" in the first place?
[03:52] <Dr_willis> Zaronn,  - sudo /etc/init.d/inetd start  (perhaps)
 yes when i use the 5.1 live cd and try to resize an ex3 partition.
[03:52] <genesis[OFT] > Help with SAMBA AND ACTIVE DIRECTORY - I'm able to join the AD domain, i'm able to 'wbinfo -u' and'wbinfo -g', but I can't seem to, for the life of me, get 'getent passwd' or 'getend group' to work....they just display the local users and groups
[03:52] <Dr_willis> snarf,  i think i insalled them both
[03:53] <g-nome> that's pretty annoying, i can't even use oo nor gimp on my amd64 :-(
[03:53] <THX-1138> WRFC_Rabbit - take a look at the howto on Repositories. enable "Universe Community Supported" install Frozen bubble then return the checkboxes to default. - safer that way.
 "At least one operation was applied to a busy device." that's the abort message
[03:53] <LjL> sergo: the QT libraries are a graphical interface tookit that many applications use (other applications use the GTK toolkit, particularly those for Gnome). QT is mostly used by KDE applications, though not necessarily so.
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> WRFC_Rabbit, synaptic has a sections ... you just look in games section
[03:53] <Dr_willis> oodles of fun games. :P
[03:53] <g-nome> i've got a problem: every time i want to start openoffice, it displays the splash screen and then nothing !? (the error says something like "segmentation fault"), what can i do?
[03:53] <Dr_willis> google for 'the linux game tome' - for a lot of neat games also.
[03:54] <Juhaz> sergo, libqt3-mt-dev
[03:54] <genesis[OFT] > Anyone good at Samba here?
[03:54] <genesis[OFT] > Yes?  No?
[03:54] <LjL> Juhaz, he's gone
[03:54] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: hey man, boy is opensuse different
[03:54] <Juhaz> bleh
[03:54] <Zaronn> Dr_willis:Says command not found.. does not seem like there is an inet file in that directory
[03:54] <Dr_willis> genesis[OFT] ,  ive never used active directory.. but i use samba a lot..
[03:54] <Dr_willis> Zaronn,  you did install inetd ?
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Hi Paddy_EIRE.. working on a project, back in a few.
[03:54] <genesis[OFT] > Dr_willis - oh...ok, maybe i'll post on the ubuntu forums...
[03:54] <Paddy_EIRE> sure
[03:55] <Zaronn> Dr_willis:lol yes
[03:55] <LjL> g-nome, is this a default Ubuntu install? did you install anything by hand, or from non-Ubuntu repositories?
[03:55] <LjL> g-nome: is this Dapper?
[03:55] <Dr_willis> Zaronn,  --> locate shows -->  /usr/sbin/inetd
[03:55] <THX-1138> Sick - hm. I have good luck  enlarging the disk partition as much as possible booting to a working OS and checking the partition with a filesystem tool. check disk in winows or fsck in linux whatever the large partition you have triesd to shrink. reboot and it will likely work.
[03:55] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: you said that you have OpenSuSe 10.1 installed in VMware
[03:56] <warlock> Is it possible to do this through a command?, Add something on the end of a line in ex all files ending with *.cfg in a dir?
[03:56] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: been trying to get yast to wrok using the Smart repos
[03:56] <Paddy_EIRE> *work
[03:57] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: at the moment I dont think suse is as good as ubuntu with gnome
[03:57] <Paddy_EIRE> at all
[03:58] <gnomefreak> Paddy_EIRE: you want to talk about suse please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:58] <warlock> Is it possible to add a word in end of a line on all files in a dir ending with *.cfg (example: adding 'test' to myconfigline: something, 'test') in all files in a dir that ends with .cfg?
[03:58] <Paddy_EIRE> gnomefreak: no probs
[03:59] <Dr_willis> Paddy_EIRE,  i found a vmware image - that came with suse 10.1 and kde
[03:59] <Dr_willis> KDE 3.5.4 on SUSE Linux 10.1
[03:59] <Dr_willis> ive not even tryed to run the updaters on it.
[03:59] <dj_baggio> !edgy
[03:59] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:59] <THX-1138> Dr_Willis. - on the vmware site?
[03:59] <LjL> warlock: i'm not sure i understood. you have files in a directory "X", and you want that all of those with a ".cfg" extension get the word "test" added to the last line of them?
[03:59] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: its a bit of a nightmare
[03:59] <Dr_willis> I got it from some KDE-Developers Site.
[04:00] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[04:00] <dj_baggio> !schedule
[04:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:00] <Dr_willis> Paddy_EIRE,  i cant even get MSupdate site to work with windows.
[04:00] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: lol
[04:00] <Paddy_EIRE> dont waste your time
[04:00] <Dr_willis> Paddy_EIRE,  :P got windows98 running in vmware for a few apps i use every so often.
[04:01] <genesis[OFT] > hey, is there a samba channel under #ubuntu?
[04:01] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: so i should google for "KDE 3.5.4 on SUSE Linux 10.1"
[04:01] <g-nome_> i've got a problem with openoffice on ubuntu-amd64: everytime i want to start it, only the splash screen appears and then nothing (i get an error like segmentation fault)
[04:01] <g-nome_> sorry for repost i had to reboot
[04:01] <erUSUL> warlock: for file in `ls *.txt`; do echo "line" >> "$file"; done   (totally untested and may not work)
[04:01] <Dr_willis> Paddy_EIRE,  yea - that will be easier.
[04:02] <Hoxzer> can somebody explain me why mpg123 works fine with aoss but teamspeak doesn't (can hear any sound)
[04:02] <Hoxzer> *can't
[04:03] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: got it straight away
[04:03] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:03] <Dr_willis> Google Rules
[04:04] <THX-1138> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/...ge=HOWTO+Sound  << Teamspeak.
[04:04] <DJAdmiral> Dr_willis: Especially since they use Goobuntu :P
[04:04] <LjL> warlock: you there? if it's what i said, this might work, after you cd to the right dir: find | grep "\.cfg$" | awk ' { print "echo test >>" $1 } '
[04:04] <warlock> kk
[04:04] <THX-1138> Goobuntu?
[04:04] <warlock> but hmm
[04:04] <LjL> warlock: oh, with an "| sh" added at the end though
[04:04] <warlock> LjL
[04:04] <DJAdmiral> Dr_willis: And also hey thanks for the linux tome link - awesome
[04:04] <warlock> can you join #blabla.talk - I'll explain a little bit better please?
[04:05] <DJAdmiral> THX-1138: Google uses an in-house operating system called Goobuntu.
[04:05] <THX-1138> "Godbuntu"? from www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com ? - the net is amazing isn't it.
[04:05] <DJAdmiral> THX-1138: it's based on ubuntu but it's non-public.
[04:05] <LjL> warlock: oh i see erUSUL also gave you an answer. that sounds like it would work, too. make sure to test either suggestion on unimportant files, anyway!
[04:05] <g-nome_> i've got a problem with openoffice on ubuntu-amd64: everytime i want to start it, only the splash screen appears and then nothing (i get an error like segmentation fault)
[04:05] <DJAdmiral> THX-1138: not Godbuntu - Goobuntu.
[04:06] <DJAdmiral> g-nome_: as far as i can see it's something wrong with GTK+. try re-installing it?
[04:06] <snarf> is there a metapackage for a LAMP installation in ubuntu?
[04:06] <g-nome_> DJAdmiral: i have no internet connection for this machine yet, so that's probably what i will have to do... thanks
[04:06] <THX-1138> DJAdmiral - Google coud use anything. and they use ubuntu/debian - impressive.
[04:07] <eracc> snarf, there is if one uses the server install disc. It is one of the choices on the install menu.
[04:07] <whurley> Snarf: there is an installer to install a LAMP server on the latest disk (if you want a server) but I've had issues with getting the installer to wok in general on my servers
[04:07] <UKMatt> Hey, I need a little help figuring out the path for my CD\
[04:07] <UKMatt> CD\DVD burning drive
[04:07] <g-nome_> what's the best kernel for my amd-64 running in 64bit mode, should i leave like that?
[04:08] <snarf> eracc, whurley, oh, cool.. but i'd just like all those goodies installed on my existing ubuntu desktop system. do i need to install the individual packages for that?
[04:08] <DJAdmiral> THX-1138: it's confirmed and true - Google said that they DO use Goobuntu. No joke.
[04:09] <eracc> snarf, probably. I don't think there is such a metapackage for desktop systems.
[04:09] <g-nome_> should i use *-k7 kernel for my amd64 (running in 64bit mode)?
[04:09] <DJAdmiral> snarf: try XAMPP?
[04:09] <DJAdmiral> snarf: www.apachefriends.org
[04:09] <eracc> At least I have not yet seen one in my three days of playing with xubuntu here.
[04:09] <SdobSiSdub> who can help me! how use 'cd' command in script if i know only $0
[04:09] <snarf> i'll look, thanks
[04:10] <DJAdmiral> eracc: seen one what?
[04:10] <DJAdmiral> eracc: an all in one package of apache, php, mysql, and perl?
[04:10] <eracc> DJAdmiral, a metapackage for LAMP in the desktop packages.
[04:10] <eracc> Yes
[04:10] <DJAdmiral> eracc: there is one though it's not in the repos. it's called XAMPP.
[04:10] <THX-1138> DJAdmiral - So.. they could use closed source supported by thousands of engineers in redmond washington. but they use open source and support it themselves? What is wrong with Microsoft?  <TROLL/>
[04:10] <UKMatt> Hey, I need a little help figuring out the path for my CD\DVD drive
[04:11] <eracc> DJAdmiral, ah, ok.
[04:11] <MikeVda> Anyone here happen to know how to install the d3d8-wrap-wined3d-beta-os-1.patch
[04:11] <wickedpuppy> UKMatt, /media/cdrom or /media/cdrom1
[04:11] <DJAdmiral> THX-1138: everything is wrong with microsoft? :P
[04:11] <bas> hi, anybody knows!! im installed ubuntu on my pc but i installed few applications, kopete and amsn which are the mensaging software but there is no sound (alerts), anyone knows why/
[04:11] <wickedpuppy> UKMatt, sorry .. its /media/cdrom or /media/cdrom0
[04:11] <POVaddct> UKMatt: do you mean mount point or device file?
[04:12] <DJAdmiral> bas: your speakers are turned off or the volume is muted
[04:12] <UKMatt> wickedpuppy, POVaddct, i know its in /media, but i'm trying to burn a DVD and it is saying /dev...
[04:12] <UKMatt> so device file?
[04:12] <SdobSiSdub> who can help me! how use 'cd' command in script if i know only $0
[04:12] <POVaddct> UKMatt: so you mean the device file
[04:12] <mads-> Hi - my sound (I have SiS 7012) is kinda distorted.. Anyone know what to do?
[04:12] <wickedpuppy> UKMatt, you are buring with ?? name of the software pls ?
[04:12] <UKMatt> wickedpuppy tovid
[04:12] <bas> no the sound is just for those applications for others it is fine, like games,etc
[04:12] <UKMatt> command line style
[04:12] <POVaddct> UKMatt: is it a ide drive?
[04:13] <DJAdmiral> UKMatt: try using gnomebaker instead
[04:13] <UKMatt> povaddct, ide?
[04:13] <wickedpuppy> tovid ? if you are using ubuntu , you can use gnomebaker or k3b ... both burn well :P
[04:13] <UKMatt> djadmiral, can it burn DVD's w/ menus?  and i'd rather finish this b/c i'm on the very last step... it took a while
[04:13] <DJAdmiral> bas: odd - you might want to check something out on the ubuntu wiki. my best guess is something is wrong with sdl here.
[04:13] <DJAdmiral> UKMatt: yes it can.
[04:13] <POVaddct> UKMatt: IDE, like IDE hard disk (not SCSI, not SATA)
[04:13] <UKMatt> murr, that would have been easier
[04:14] <DJAdmiral> POVaddct: By any chance - do you mean POV as in POVray?
[04:14] <POVaddct> DJAdmiral: yes
[04:14] <UKMatt> POVaddct, i have no idea, i just know its a CD/DVD burning drive i got stock from dell
[04:14] <JacksLivr> can anyone help with resolution? i have addded 1440x900 to xorg.conf and removed 640x480. yet in the resolution gui i still see the 640 but not the 1440. i have restarted already.
[04:14] <DJAdmiral> POVaddct: NICE! =D
[04:15] <morrye> how can you format a hard drive to ext3 from the terminal?
[04:15] <POVaddct> UKMatt: try this: cat /proc/ide/hd[abcd] /{model,media}
[04:15] <MikeVda> Where can i download the Wine DX9
[04:15] <Dr_willis> morrye,  have you fdisked the drive and set the partition tobe ext3 yet?
[04:16] <Dr_willis> morrye,  then sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hb1 (for example)
[04:16] <morrye> Dr_willis: How do I do thiss?
[04:16] <POVaddct> DJAdmiral: http://84.179.109.200:29275/
[04:16] <DJAdmiral> MikeVda: DirectX 9.0c for WINE? good heavens no that is so not going to work.
[04:16] <genesis[OFT] > Guys, I found my problem out...in regard to 'getent passwd' and 'getent group' not working....In the last week, there was a change to Samba in this area.... make sure 'winbind enum users = yes' and same with 'winbind enum groups = yes'
[04:16] <MikeVda> Can anyone tell me where to get wine3d dx9
[04:16] <UKMatt> sorry for pasting here, but its short, and channel is empty:  JLMS DVD-ROM XJ-HD166
[04:16] <UKMatt> HL-DT-ST DVD+RW GRA-4120B
[04:16] <UKMatt> cdrom
[04:16] <UKMatt> cdrom
[04:16] <Dr_willis> morrye,  gparted may be a easier tool to use if you have to ask how to use fdisk. :)
[04:16] <MikeVda> no
[04:16] <genesis[OFT] > anyway....cyaz
[04:16] <Dr_willis> but thats not commandline.
[04:16] <MikeVda> There is a dx9wine
[04:17] <THX-1138> DJAdmiral .NET for WINE?
[04:17] <morrye> Dr_willis: How do I unmount a HD its mounted right now
[04:17] <DJAdmiral> MikeVda: think of that like automatix or easyubuntu : bad, evil meanie bully things!
[04:17] <POVaddct> UKMatt: seems you have two ide drives. the second one is the writer.
[04:17] <DJAdmiral> MikeVda: Then again I'm not too much into wine so.... there.
[04:17] <THX-1138> !mount
[04:17] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[04:18] <UKMatt> povaddct, but they're both cdrom?
[04:18] <MikeVda> http://directxwine.sourceforge.net/
[04:18] <Dr_willis> morrye,   umount command. but if its a running system - you may be better off booting a live cd. and doing the formating/fdisking from there.
[04:18] <UKMatt> povaddct, nm, i really don't k now what i'm talking about, i just need the path
[04:18] <Dr_willis> morrye,  what are you trying to reformat anyway?
[04:18] <POVaddct> UKMatt: less /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info
[04:18] <POVaddct> UKMatt: dont paste here
[04:18] <morrye> Dr_willis: Its a NTFS drive which only contains data.
[04:19] <POVaddct> UKMatt: just look at the file. it will tell you which drive has which capabilities
[04:20] <UKMatt> povaddct, aparently neither can burn write DVD's it says
[04:20] <Dr_willis> morrye,  and you want to remove all the data?
[04:20] <UKMatt> povaddct, and pastebin seems to be stuck
[04:20] <morrye> Dr_willis: I backed up all the data and want to format the drive as ext3
[04:20] <Harlek3n> hello
[04:20] <POVaddct> UKMatt: hmm
[04:21] <DJAdmiral> POVaddct: Whoa - amazing work dude
[04:21] <POVaddct> UKMatt: the HL-DT-ST DVD+RW GRA-4120B is the writer
[04:21] <POVaddct> DJAdmiral: thanks!
[04:21] <UKMatt> povaddct, hdd can burn cd's, so that hase to be my writer, but it has 0 for burning dvd's
[04:21] <UKMatt> povaddct, http://pastebin.com/796109
[04:21] <Dr_willis> morrye,  unmount it.. fdisk it, delete/remake the partition as a linux partition, then format it.
[04:21] <Harlek3n> i installed a second hdd and created a raid1. i started the live cd to install ubuntu from it. but it shows me 2 hdds to install :X
[04:22] <morrye> Dr_willis: How do I unmount though? I need to do it through terminal or I get a access error.
[04:22] <POVaddct> UKMatt: maybe it is really only a cd writer, no dvd writer
[04:22] <Dr_willis> sudo umount  /media/whatever
[04:22] <THX-1138>  unmount
[04:22] <UKMatt> POVaddct, i've made DVD's before...
[04:22] <Dr_willis> theres no N in umount. :P
[04:23] <Dr_willis> and i dont know where it went. :)
[04:23] <THX-1138> Dr_Willis - Are you saying i should get some rest?
[04:23] <THX-1138> lol - good idea.
[04:24] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:24] <pigor> hello. how can i list the options for a module?
[04:25] <frogzoo> pigor: u read the docs
[04:25] <THX-1138> Thanks Again  guys. an hour of World of Warcraft i Ubuntu and off to bed. Azeroth is rife with ugly smelly evil horde.  - cheers
[04:26] <UKMatt> povaddct, haha alright here's something I don't understand, I put /dev/hdd in the program as the DVD burning drive, and ran it, and it seems to be burning the DVD
[04:26] <POVaddct> UKMatt: cool :)
[04:26] <pigor> frogzoo: i have feared :-) is there no command like "modrobe --list-options" ??
[04:26] <UKMatt> povaddct, hopefully, its still weird that it said it couldn't burn dvd's
[04:26] <Harlek3n> it shows me /dev/sde and /dev/sdf but both bound into a raid1. shouldn't be there a raid device also? (wich i could choose to install)
[04:27] <frogzoo> pigor: I don't think they'd allow the kernel to blow out with help instructions
[04:27] <POVaddct> UKMatt: maybe the writer doesn't report its abilities properly
[04:27] <frogzoo> pigor: best bet's probably might be reading the code
[04:27] <LjL> writers are humble, you know
[04:27] <pigor> frogzoo: ok. thanks. i will read the docs.
[04:27] <UKMatt> povaddct, odd, well anyways ty for helping find the name
[04:28] <snarf> is there a command line way to check the dependencies of a .deb?
[04:28] <jrib> snarf: dpkg -I
[04:29] <bXi> is there a way to see what keys are pressed on a keyboard using a certain device node like /dev/keyboard ?
[04:29] <anilomkar> How can i install flashplayer for firefox
[04:29] <snarf> thanks
[04:29] <jrib> ubotu: tell anilomkar about flash
[04:29] <Harlek3n> anyone got idea for me problem?
[04:30] <frogzoo> bXi: showkey -s    & xev
[04:31] <thedash> I am having some problems with my C compiler, and I don't know much about it
[04:31] <Harlek3n> do i need to isntall something to get the raid device proper shown?
[04:32] <LjL> thedash: what problems
[04:32] <thedash> first it said I didn't have a compiler, so I used synaptic to get cpp/gcc, and now it says it can't create executables
[04:33] <LjL> thedash: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[04:33] <LjL> !build-essential
[04:33] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:33] <frogzoo> thedash: install build-essentials
[04:33] <LjL> !it
[04:33] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:33] <UKMatt> gnomebaker doesn't seem like it can create a dvd.... is there a program that can make a .iso of a dvd that can be burned w/ baker?
[04:33] <optimusprime> someone here use Fprot?
[04:33] <morrye> Dr_willis: That didn't format the drive, what was the software you suggested?
[04:33] <digilink> question: I am building a custom 2.4 kernel using make-kpkg and kernel-image tools and while compiling it complained that my gcc version is too new for this kernel. I installed gcc-3.4, but how do I change my default version? I tried to run gcc-config, and it's not installed and I can not find it in any of the repositories?
[04:35] <Dr_willis> morrye,  gparted
[04:35] <erUSUL> digilink: export CC=gcc-3.4 before you do make. btw why are you using such an old kernel?
[04:36] <LjL> erUSUL: if it ain't broke, find a way to break it.
[04:36] <digilink> erUSUL: tnx Ill give it a shot, Im using an older kernel because I have heard it has better AX.25 support for ham radio, and there are lot of features in the new kernel I would never use
[04:36] <ladydoor> LjL: it's the linux way!
[04:37] <LjL> abs'lutly
[04:37] <erUSUL> LjL: ladydoor  lol XD
[04:37] <morrye> Dr_willis: Is it visual?
[04:37] <sergo-laptop> checking correct functioning of Qt installation... failure
[04:37] <sergo-laptop> configure: error: Failed to find matching components of a complete
[04:37] <sergo-laptop>                   Qt installation. Try using more options,
[04:37] <sergo-laptop>                   see ./configure --help.
[04:37] <sergo-laptop> ??
[04:38] <LjL> sergo-laptop: "sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev"
[04:38] <sergo-laptop> i can't install Vygchat
[04:38] <x-demon> hi guys
[04:38] <erUSUL> sergo-laptop: do not paste here please
[04:38] <morrye> Dr_willis: never mind
[04:38] <x-demon> anyone can help me?
[04:38] <ardchoille> I'm starting to learn C++. What is a good C++ IDE?
[04:38] <ladydoor> ardchoille: emacs :-)
[04:38] <ladydoor> ardchoille: (if you already know it)
[04:38] <sergo-laptop> LjL the package is already installed
[04:38] <refnumzx> I understand that 2.6.18 has a lot of bug fixes in it particularly for sata and the like, does anyone know of a working ubuntu deb installer?
[04:38] <ardchoille> ladydoor: emacs is a good OS, hopefully someone will write a nice editor for it
[04:38] <LjL> sergo-laptop: then that configure script is broken...
[04:39] <ladydoor> ardchoille: lol
[04:39] <ardchoille> ladydoor: j/k :)
[04:39] <sergo-laptop> LjL maybe..
[04:39] <NaMcO^> please help me with epson 5900L on dapper :( ???
[04:39] <sergo-laptop> but it was downloaded 25.000 times
[04:39] <x-demon> how i can skip disks checking on first run on Kubuntu?
[04:39] <ladydoor> sergo-laptop: for multiline pastes, there's http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org . And when these things claim some library doesn't exist, it's always the development files that're missing
[04:39] <LjL> sergo-laptop: not necessarily by ubuntu users, though. anyway, care to give me the link?
[04:39] <sergo-laptop> maybe it's needed to be configured with some options
[04:39] <thedash> when I am compiling a file from source, do I use "make" or "./make" ? [dumb question] 
[04:40] <LjL> thedash: make
[04:40] <thedash> k
[04:40] <ladydoor> x-demon: is it checking the disks every time you boot?
[04:40] <LjL> thedash: usually preceeded by ./configure
[04:40] <thedash> I ws a bit confused when it started diplaying all the code
[04:40] <DJAdmiral> see you in a bit guys
[04:40] <ladydoor> telecomtom: and then *sudo* make install
[04:40] <thedash> yeh, did that fist
[04:40] <erUSUL> ardchoille: it has one, the vi emulator ;) it is pitty though becouse vi has only two modes one in which it beeps and another in which don't XD
[04:40] <sergo-laptop> anyone know good chat for lan? !
[04:40] <sergo-laptop> :)
[04:40] <frogzoo> x-demon: did you format as ext3 ?
[04:40] <ardchoille> erUSUL: I see
[04:41] <jazzrocker> ardchoille, vim
[04:41] <x-demon> frogzoo: yes, but i have 3 fat32 disks, and linux checking it too
[04:41] <zaggynl> I just booted my pc, and ubuntu gives me this error message: "Failed to initialise HAL", euh what to do with this?
[04:41] <ladydoor> x-demon: ok, first, back up your menu.lst
[04:41] <refnumzx> I understand that 2.6.18 has a lot of bug fixes in it particularly for sata and the like, does anyone know of a working ubuntu deb installer?
[04:42] <x-demon> ok
[04:42] <ladydoor> x-demon: sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak
[04:42] <erUSUL> !kernel > refnumzx
[04:42] <x-demon> i cant log into system
[04:42] <ladydoor> x-demon: then, edit it. sudo nano -w /etc/fstab
[04:42] <ladydoor> x-demon: do you have the livecd?
[04:42] <x-demon> because it scaaaaan disk
[04:42] <morrye> Whats the best linux partition format for storing data?
[04:42] <ardchoille> jazzrocker: the only problem is that I don't know how to write the widgets. I was hoping there was a sort of drag and drop ui for placing widgets for a C++ app
[04:42] <ladydoor> !best
[04:42] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[04:42] <frogzoo> x-demon: don't know as there's a way around it for fat
[04:42] <erUSUL> i do not know of any aviable deb but you can compile your own
[04:43] <LjL> hear hear, someone's actually using the factoids i made... i'd never believed that :P
[04:43] <frogzoo> ladydoor: ok, but amarok is the best music player, & k3b the best burner
[04:43] <erUSUL> ardchoille: kdevelop has a gui builder afaik
[04:43] <jazzrocker> ardchoille, glade... but don't use it... just learn GTK+ http://www.gtk.org/tutorial/
[04:43] <ladydoor> x-demon: ?
[04:43] <erUSUL> LjL: congrats XD
[04:43] <ardchoille> jazzrocker: Wow, thank you for that link :)
[04:43] <x-demon> no i havent live cd
[04:43] <zaggynl> help, my usb devices aren't 'seen' anymore, and I have this error about 'unable to initialise HAL'
[04:43] <ladydoor> frogzoo: i disagree, because both require mouse usage. i'm partial to pytone and bashburn.
[04:43] <x-demon> only freesbie
[04:44] <frogzoo> morrye: for 99% of purposes, you can't beat ext3
[04:44] <jazzrocker> ardchoille, the topic of the #gtk+ channel on irc.gimp.org says "don't use glade"
[04:44] <ladydoor> x-demon: how did you install? and what do you mean freesbie? freebsd?
[04:44] <x-demon> freesbie = freebsd live cd
[04:44] <x-demon> i have only install CD
[04:44] <ardchoille> jazzrocker: It does? ok, I'll not use that
[04:44] <jazzrocker> ardchoille, you want gtkmm for a C++ app, but the tutorial is for C, it shouldn't be much different
[04:44] <ladydoor> x-demon: that'll work. boot to that and then talk to me.
[04:45] <x-demon> err... boot from install cd& how
[04:45] <ladydoor> x-demon: from the freebsd livecd
[04:45] <ladydoor> x-demon: please
[04:45] <NaMcO^> please help me with epson 5900L on dapper :( ???
[04:45] <morrye> frogzoo: can you mount ext3
[04:45] <LjL> !helpme
[04:45] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:45] <erUSUL> NaMcO^: check in linuxprinting.org
[04:45] <ladydoor> x-demon: i've got to leave in a few minutes, so you need to get into a working environment. it doesn't matter if it's ubuntu, as long as you can access whatever partition your /etc is on.
[04:46] <NaMcO^> yes ..
[04:46] <Harlek3n> anyone who installed ubuntu on a raid?
[04:46] <frogzoo> morrye: all file systems are made to be mounted
[04:46] <NaMcO^> i have install driver ..by linuxprint..
[04:46] <frogzoo> !raid
[04:46] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[04:46] <erUSUL> ladydoor: but, has freebsd support for ext3?? i do not think so
[04:46] <Harlek3n> ubotu thx
[04:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <frogzoo> erUSUL: I'd be amazed if not
[04:47] <morrye> frogzoo: well i just mounted and I get the error : "wrong fs type".
[04:47] <ladydoor> erUSUL: i don't know. ext3 is free software, right?
[04:47] <frogzoo> morrye: well ask in bsd chan
[04:47] <zaggynl> help, my usb devices aren't 'seen' anymore, and I have this error about 'unable to initialise HAL'
[04:48] <unfknblvbl> lol HAL
[04:48] <ladydoor> Harlek3n: ubotu's a bot...
[04:49] <frogzoo> open the bay doors HAL - 'sorry, unable to initialise HAL'
[04:49] <POVaddct> frogzoo: hehehe
[04:49] <ladydoor> x-demon: booted into the livecd yet?
[04:51] <Harlek3n> oh ok thx for the note. cause it didnt helped me mcuh yet :X
[04:51] <Bastupungen> hello is it possible to make the ubuntu default kernel to run at kernel timer 1000hz (If I recall correctly it now runs at 250)'
[04:52] <davvs> how much space should i allocate for the boot-disk?
[04:52] <ladydoor> x-demon: ok, well, i've got to go, so here's what you need to do:  after you've backed up and opened an editor on the fstab file in the directory called /etc, on the partition to which you installed ubuntu, you need to find the FAT filesystems and change the 6th field (it'll probably be a 2 and come after a 0) to a 0 in each of them. That will be telling your computer not to check them at boot.
[04:52] <ladydoor> x-demon: good luck, and i hope you saw that message.
[04:53] <SdobSiSdub> who can help me! how use 'cd' command in script if i know only $0
[04:53] <Harlek3n> well i still have no clue what to do with that raid. iit only shows me 2 hdds no raid device.. shall i just try to install on 1 disk and c what happens? :)
[04:54] <erUSUL> frogzoo: ladydoor well i think not linux has allways supported a pletora of filesystems more than any os i know of. bsd's anly support a few and none of the linux native ones (ext*, reiser, minix, xfs, jfs) afaik
[04:54] <ladydoor> hey! if x-demon comes back and asks me (or someone else) about what to do next, could you tell him to use /lastlog ladydoor to see the instructions i just posted? i'd appreciate it muchly.
[04:54] <ladydoor> erUSUL: ah. well, that sucks.
[04:54] <Harlek3n> ladydoor if im here will do that
[04:55] <HeavyThinker> erUSUL: i hear freeBSD 6.0 has read only ext3, though i could be wrong
[04:55] <davvs> How do i fix dualboot with linux and windows if I installed windows after linux?
[04:55] <frogzoo> erUSUL: wow, that's bizarre
[04:56] <erUSUL> HeavyThinker: if it is true is still not enough to fix a linux system from a freebsd livecd
[04:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub > davvs
[04:56] <HeavyThinker> erUSUL: correct. guess i missed the start of the question :P
[04:56] <erUSUL> Bastupungen: recompiling
[04:57] <erUSUL> !kernel > Bastupungen
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[04:57] <davvs> Jack_Sparrow,  grub is never started because the windows install never added a option to start linux
[04:57] <rope> Hi... when is edgy be released ??
[04:57] <erUSUL> !schedule
[04:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:57] <davvs> aah i c Jack_Sparrow :P
[04:57] <davvs> thanks
[04:58] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[04:58] <rope> Ty
[04:58] <pg_> davvs, use a live cd to boot intoyour linux system and reisntall grub/lilo
[04:58] <quintin_> Maybe I will use linux for deskop, hmm!!!
[04:58] <quintin_> I inserted my usb wifi adapter, and it "just worked" ... nice!
[04:58] <quintin_> But for some reason the network activity icon is NOT in the system tray like it normally is, it is to the left of it and wasn't there by default.  screwy
[04:58] <bretzel> !gfxboot
[04:59] <ubotu> gfxboot: bootlogo creator for gfxboot compliant boot loaders. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.5-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1143 kB, installed size 3372 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[04:59] <Jack_Sparrow> People, Play nice.  Im taking a day off, but I am lurking if someone needs me
[04:59] <bretzel> cool
[04:59] <quintin_> but not once has linux dropped the neighbour's wifi connection ..... windows drops it all the time
[04:59] <quintin_> but this BLACK ON WHITE terminal crap has GOT to stop
[04:59] <bretzel>  -- But gfxboot-ubuntu-theme is missing the po subdir ...
[05:00] <WRFC_Rabbit> does anyone know any tutorial games that help to learn about ubuntu??
[05:01] <Ursinha> WRFC_Rabbit, what do you want to learn?
[05:01] <WRFC_Rabbit> as much as i can =D
[05:02] <Ursinha> are you familiar to computers?
[05:04] <bretzel> WRFC_Rabbit: Your question is too large, Ubuntu is Debian based and Debian is Linux and the GNU Unix like tools, then from what parts you want to learn ?
[05:04] <WRFC_Rabbit> im good with hardware and windows
[05:04] <txoof> what is the most sane way to manage /etc/init.d?  I want to stop some services from starting. I could go and delete the symlinks, but I thought there was a tool for doing this.
[05:04] <erUSUL> txoof: you can use bum (gtk) or update-rc.d (cli)
[05:05] <txoof> ahh, update-rc.d that sounds great.  I'll check the man page.  thanks.
[05:06] <Yawner> Howdy Guys, Anyone got a (Second) Hard Drive Installation Guide Link.. Preferably from the very start (No filesystem etc..) Through to mounting etc..?? Thanks.. Alex
[05:06] <txoof> for some reason apt decided that I needed both apache and apache2.  It's a nice little disaster.
[05:07] <pokkie_laptop> hello all. anybody know how i can find out my monitors front porch, back porch, sync and blanking values?
[05:07] <agents> i need help learning something.  I'm completely new to linux.  A week ago I discovered the |, which is about the most badass thing I've ever seen in my life.  So, i've been reading the man pages for everything in /usr/bin/ and making notes (on my local drupal site, for notes) about what each app does.  I'm trying to come up with a list of 'puzzle peice' applications so i can start playing around with stringing apps together.l
[05:07] <txoof> Yawner: what do you need to do?  Are you trying to just add a scratch drive, or do you want to split off parts of the fs?
[05:07] <agents> So I'm lookin' for commandline apps and tools that'll help me do this.
[05:08] <txoof> agents: hu?  What do you want to do?
[05:08] <Yawner> txoof: Well I had a HDD, had Debain on it.. I put it in.. tried to use qtparted to get it blank with the ext3 filesystem.. But its now blank... without a filesystem.. (Think there could be a bug in qtparted..)
[05:08] <Yaakov> agents: basic tools are grep, cut and ``  Learn about those.
[05:09] <Yawner> s/Debain/Debian
[05:09] <agents> ``?
[05:09] <Yawner> txoof: I wanted to just add it as a data drive.. mount it through /home
[05:09] <jrib> agents: checkout the stuff that coreutils package installs (dpkg -L coreutils | grep bin).  sed and awak are nice to learn too
[05:09] <POVaddct> agents: info coreutils
[05:09] <Yaakov> agents: Yes, `<some program>` provides the output of that program to the STDIN of the one that it is an argument to.
[05:09] <txoof> Yawner: do you want to salvage stuff?  If not, just fdisk /dev/hd(whatever), partition it and then mkfs on it.
[05:10] <quintin_> ktorrent says STALLED
[05:10] <quintin_> wtf does this mean and does anyone know a fast light gui BT client? =)
[05:10] <hype> hi
[05:10] <agents> wow, lots of stuff in there
[05:10] <agents> thanx guys!
[05:11] <agents> i'll study what all these apps do too, hopefully that'll gimme enough tools to peice some stuff together
[05:11] <hype> any body know a way to display volume bars representing my input/ouput volume in real time?
[05:11] <POVaddct> agents: you might want to learn about bash scripting
[05:11] <agents> yeah, that's what I"m doing isn't it?
[05:11] <hype> i mean, displaying it on the desktop
[05:11] <txoof> hype: nmixer
[05:11] <Yawner> txoof: well there should be nothing on it now.. as its completely blank after I tried to use qtparted to format it.. The only problem is that it now says that the filesystem is unknown, which I am guessing means it doesnt have one..
[05:11] <Yaakov> agents: bash has a buttload of built-ins.
[05:11] <Khamael> how do I make a cd into a .iso?
[05:11] <POVaddct> agents: yes :)
[05:11] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone know how I can take a screenshot and not have menus collapse and the like
[05:12] <Yawner> txoof: Ill try to use fdisk to put a filesystem on it now and report back with my findings :)
[05:12] <Yaakov> agents: It isn't just piping and redirection, or the external applications.
[05:12] <agents> gotta really useful (with followalongable examples) guide for learning bash scripting?
[05:12] <txoof> Yawner: step 1: fdisk /dev/hd(whatever)
[05:12] <Yawner> txoof: yeah ive got that up
[05:12] <agents> yeah, i know that I'm just scratching the surface.  the linux commandline is WAY more awesome than the windows one
[05:12] <Yaakov> agents: I just use the man pages, so I can't help there.
[05:12] <agents> i mean, WAAAAY
[05:12] <agents> of course, you all know that
[05:13] <txoof> Yawner: do you want to make one parition or more?
[05:13] <Yawner> txoof: never used it before.. so ill have a read through the help menu quickly
[05:13] <Yawner> txoof: just one
[05:13] <surface> agents:  calling my nick?
[05:13] <Yaakov> agents: Once you learn some of this, if you look at the stuff in Windows again you will find things you didn't know were there.
[05:13] <txoof> Yawner, ok make the parition.
[05:13] <agents> nope
[05:13] <agents> :\
[05:13] <hype> txoof , seemms nice, but in fact i just want to display input / output volume on the desktop
[05:13] <WRFC_Rabbit> i need my printer to work!
[05:14] <surface> agents:  www.linuxbyexample.co.nr
[05:14] <Yawner> txoof: A primary partition im guessing?
[05:14] <txoof> Yawner: yup
[05:15] <Yawner> hmm.. I think I have created a partition
[05:15] <BigMonkey> Trying to get wireless to work with ndiswrappers.  How do I remove or delete the old drivers (orinoco and hostap)?  They keep showing up in /lib/modules/...
[05:16] <txoof> Yawner: now mkfs -t <fstype> /dev/hdwhatever
[05:16] <txoof> Yawner: you have to write it to the disk before you exit.  All the changes you make are only in meory until you choose to write them
[05:17] <Yawner> hmm
[05:17] <txoof> Yawner: what's hmm?
[05:17] <Yawner> txoof: opened up new tab and did mkfs
[05:17] <Yawner> txoof: /dev/hdb1 is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!
[05:18] <jUggERNAUt1980> good morning, everybody!
[05:18] <jUggERNAUt1980> i'm having a bit of trouble with k3b
[05:18] <txoof> Yawner: did you finish fdisk?
[05:18] <Stevo> anyone familiar with automatix?
[05:18] <Yawner> txoof: aha.. got confused when you said dont exit :P
[05:18] <LjL> Stevo: no, but i'm familiar with the common suggestion to not use it
[05:19] <Yawner> txoof: ill finish fdisk and see what happens lol
[05:19] <txoof> Yawner: there ya go.
[05:19] <jUggERNAUt1980> why would one not want to use automatix?
[05:19] <Yawner> txoof: hmm
[05:19] <quintin_> ok ubuntu is frikkin screwy
[05:19] <BigMonkey> Trying to get wireless to work with ndiswrappers.  How do I remove or delete the old drivers (orinoco and hostap)?  They keep showing up in /lib/modules/...
[05:19] <quintin_> /dev/hda3 is mounted as /share, and I can write to it
[05:19] <Yawner> txoof: finished fdisk.. (using the w command).. but it still gets the same error message
[05:20] <LjL> jUggERNAUt1980: because it's been known to mess up a number of systems.
[05:20] <quintin_> however, it is not "enabled" in the disk manager, and it is now shown in df -h ... ?  wtf ? :P
[05:20] <jUggERNAUt1980> ljl, word up on that, but i've never encountered any problems with it.
[05:21] <Stevo> yeah..  i used it before i ever heard the stuff in here about it...
[05:21] <wikijeff> Anyone else have problems with firefox occasionally freezing with flash websites such as youtube? It works most of the time, but will freeze up about once or twice a day.
[05:21] <pokkie_laptop> anybody know how to get the Vertical Sync Offset value for a geforce fx 5200 card?
[05:21] <johnficca> does anyone know the path to my kernel source in dapper?
[05:21] <Stevo> LjL> do you recall anyone fixing the mess it causes?
[05:21] <txoof> Yawner: the drive isn't mounted is it?
[05:21] <quintin_> johnficca: kernel source is not installed by default.  do uname -a to see what you have, then search synaptic for that version # and you will be able to install kernel sources
[05:22] <BigMonkey> Wireless problem on my laptop.   How do I remove or delete the old drivers (orinoco and hostap)?  They keep showing up in /lib/modules/...
[05:22] <LjL> Stevo: well, not really, the only suggestion i remember hearing is "well, just reinstall i guess". can't exclude there is a sane way to fix the problems, though.
[05:22] <jUggERNAUt1980> wikijeff, my firefox freezes sometime when i'm on compfused.  i just figured that it had some difficulty with the file types i was viewing.
[05:22] <quintin_> johnficca: of course, it should have a traditional link in /usr/linux or wherever that normally goes ...
[05:22] <JosefK> BigMonkey: you needn't remove them, just blacklist them in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[05:22] <wikijeff> jUggERNAUt1980: compfused?
[05:22] <johnficca> thanks
[05:22] <Yawner> txoof: just did a umount on /dev/hdb.. says its not
[05:22] <jUggERNAUt1980> wikijeff, www.compfused.com
[05:23] <txoof> Yawner: hmmm.  mount |grep hdb
[05:23] <quintin_> anyone recommend a bit torrent client that doesn't suck balls?
[05:23] <LjL> !language
[05:23] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:23] <Stevo> dang..
[05:23] <hype> quintin_ transmission
[05:23] <hype> extra light :)
[05:24] <Stevo> i mean, my system works.. and flash even works, even tho i've noticed it saying i need to install, then not being able to..
[05:24] <Yawner> txoof: ?
[05:24] <quintin_> hype: is it GUI?
[05:24] <txoof> Yawner: yes?
[05:24] <hype> yep
[05:24] <quintin_> LjL: yea bite me kthnxbie :)
[05:24] <BigMonkey> JosefK - I see no blacklist file there.  Does it need a specific format, or is a bare text file with orinoco and hostap on separate lines enough?
[05:24] <jUggERNAUt1980> when i try to create an audio cd with k3b, it tells me that it can't handle the files, due to an unsupported format.  i'm using mp3's.  anybody have any suggestions for me here?
[05:24] <quintin_> neat-o.  I should have searched in title & desc with synaptic.. I just searched title... let me see if I can find it
[05:25] <msivanich> When I log into the cosole it says i have Mail.  How do I check that?
[05:25] <Yawner> txoof: Im guessing you wanted me to run that command.. (It came back with no results)
[05:25] <txoof> Yawner: ok.
[05:25] <quintin_> hype: is it fast and tasty and all good things?  Does it show up on time and smell nice?
[05:26] <StephenL> How can I add things to my Applications Menu?
[05:26] <hype> simple,3 options: port, upload limit, directory to put downloaded torrents :] 
[05:26] <hype> i used azureus, i dont anymore
[05:26] <txoof> Yawner: odd.  Does fdisk bitch when you try to write the changes you make?
[05:26] <hype> http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/Transmission
[05:26] <JosefK> BigMonkey: it should be in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist :/ have a look in /etc, it's just a line with "blacklist *module name*"
[05:26] <jUggERNAUt1980> gtk-gnutella works awesomely for me
[05:27] <jUggERNAUt1980> but it's not a torrent client as far as i know.
[05:27] <quintin_> hype: Interesting.  ktorrent is not doing ANYTHING and I know the files are seeded properly !!!
[05:27] <JosefK> BigMonkey: ie, on my laptop, I put "blacklist pcspkr" to stop it loading pcspkr (damn loud)
[05:27] <Yawner> txoof: The partition table has been altered!
[05:27] <Yawner> Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table.
[05:27] <Yawner> Syncing disks.
[05:27] <StephenL> Can you not add things in the Alacarte Menu Editor?
[05:27] <totall_6_7> are jUggERNAUt1980 have you been able to burn any mp3's
[05:27] <Yawner> txoof: that was the output
[05:27] <JosefK> StephenL: yes, in the File menu
[05:28] <StephenL> NM, I'm an idiot
[05:28] <StephenL> I see it now
[05:28] <jUggERNAUt1980> totall_6_7, none at all.
[05:28] <hype> brb
[05:28] <hype> ah, nope thats ok
[05:28] <Yawner> txoof: There was 3 lines.. should have removed the line breaks..
[05:28] <txoof> Yawner: OK.  Execute this: mount /dev/hdb /mnt/temp
[05:28] <Yawner> txoof: ok
[05:28] <jUggERNAUt1980> i tried burning a disc on serpentine, but after it finished, the cd player in my friend's car wouldn't read it.
[05:28] <txoof> Yawner: you probably need to mkdir /mnt/temp
[05:29] <Sevenhill> Failed to fetch http://en.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kde4libs/kde4libs-data_3.80.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb  Size mismatch
[05:29] <Sevenhill> how can i fix that
[05:29] <JosefK> Sevenhill: sudo aptitude update first
[05:29] <Yawner> txoof: mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[05:29] <JosefK> Sevenhill: if it keeps complaining, 'sudo aptitude clean'
[05:29] <JosefK> Sevenhill: then try installing again
[05:30] <txoof> Yawner: ok. what kind of file system do you want on the drive?
[05:30] <Yawner> txoof: I want ext3
[05:30] <jUggERNAUt1980> is there a way to edit a list of supported formats for k3b?
[05:30] <Firestar> Hi Everyone
[05:30] <Yawner> :)
[05:30] <Firestar> Sorry to bother, but I've got a question
[05:31] <Yawner> txoof: sudo mkfs -t ext3 /dev/hdb1
[05:31] <Sevenhill> JosefK:  I'm trying that now
[05:31] <txoof> Yawner: mke2fs -T ext3 /dev/hdb1
[05:31] <Yawner> txoof: thats what im executing at the moment
[05:31] <jUggERNAUt1980> shoot firestar
[05:31] <Yawner> aha k
[05:31] <BigMonkey> JosefK - thanks, I'll create a file and see what happens.  BBL
[05:31] <Firestar> I'm running a server with 4GB ram, but my top stats and cat /proc/meminfo is only showing 2.8 GB
[05:31] <totall_6_7> jUggERNAUt1980: i am going to have to let someone else answer cuz if you are not able to burn any music then its beyond me
[05:31] <Firestar> does anyone know why? and more importantly, how to fix it?
[05:31] <Yawner> txoof: same error that its in use already
[05:32] <jUggERNAUt1980> totall_6_7, word.  thanks muchly!!
[05:32] <JosefK> Firestar: cat /proc/mtrr
[05:32] <thedash> I have forgotten how to enable mp3s on dapper again
[05:32] <Yawner> txoof: shall I try rebooting, then it shoudnt be mounted as its not in my /etc/fstab file..
[05:32] <jUggERNAUt1980> totall_6_7, should i maybe remove k3b and then re-install it?
[05:32] <Tonus> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/5388182.stm
[05:32] <txoof> Yawner: I'd drop into single user mode and then try again.  telinit 1 willd o the job.  that will make sure that nothing weird is going on.
[05:32] <txoof> will do
[05:32] <Firestar> JosefK:
[05:32] <Firestar> reg00: base=0x00000000 (   0MB), size=2048MB: write-back, count=1
[05:32] <Firestar> reg01: base=0x80000000 (2048MB), size= 512MB: write-back, count=1
[05:32] <Firestar> reg02: base=0xa0000000 (2560MB), size= 256MB: write-back, count=1
[05:33] <JosefK> that looks like 4 gigs to me :)
[05:33] <JosefK> erk
[05:33] <Yawner> txoof: right ok.. ill give that a go then..
[05:33] <JosefK> long day :/ what arch are you on?
[05:33] <totall_6_7> jUggERNAUt1980: in my opinion it cant hurt. I dont know if it will do any good but it cant hurt
[05:33] <Firestar> hmmm, so how come top stats and meminfo only shows this:
[05:33] <txoof> good luck
[05:33] <Yawner> txoof: thanks :)
[05:33] <dbzdeath> hi i get a few of these messages when running fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage and i'm not sure why could someone please help me? dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: diversions involved - output may be incorrect
[05:33] <Firestar> reg00: base=0x00000000 (   0MB), size=2048MB: write-back, count=1
[05:33] <Firestar> reg01: base=0x80000000 (2048MB), size= 512MB: write-back, count=1
[05:33] <Firestar> reg02: base=0xa0000000 (2560MB), size= 256MB: write-back, count=1
[05:33] <dbzdeath>  diversion by nvidia-glx from: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1
[05:33] <warlock> jesus
[05:33] <warlock> enough :-o
[05:33] <DJAdmiral> !pastebin
[05:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:33] <JosefK> you're right Firestar, that's only recording just over 2 gigs
[05:33] <Firestar> Mem:   2832748k total,  2785588k used,    47160k free,   243388k buffers
[05:33] <Firestar> sorry
[05:34] <jUggERNAUt1980> totall_6_7, i'm running apt-get upgrade right now.  would that help at all?
[05:34] <Firestar> any ideas, JosefK?
[05:34] <DJAdmiral> Hey - how does one get java running in firefox?
[05:34] <DJAdmiral> I've done it so long ago I can hardly remember.
[05:34] <totall_6_7> jUggERNAUt1980: have you tried Surpentine Audio Creator??
[05:34] <DJAdmiral> !java
[05:34] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:34] <JosefK> Firestar: are you booting off one of the desktop kernels?  if so, try installing linux-server
[05:34] <Khamael> does vmware allow usb in the vm?
[05:35] <Firestar> no
[05:35] <LjL> Khamael: i seem to recall it does
[05:35] <jUggERNAUt1980> totall_6_7, yes, and it burned a cd, but that disc didn't work in my friend's car stereo player.
[05:35] <Firestar> I'm running on the AMD64 server edition of 6.06
[05:35] <Sevenhill> Firestar:  Use a Big memory supported kernel
[05:35] <jUggERNAUt1980> totall_6_7, now i'm out of blanks!  :P
[05:35] <totall_6_7> jUggERNAUt1980: would it play in any cd player?
[05:35] <Khamael> LjL: it seems qemu does not
[05:35] <jUggERNAUt1980> but i'd like to iron out this k3b issue 'cause i like it.
[05:35] <Firestar> how can I see which version of the kernal I'm running?
[05:35] <JosefK> Firestar: uname -a
[05:35] <erUSUL> Firestar: uname -r
[05:35] <MetaMorfoziS> uname -r
[05:36] <quintin> DJAdmiral: ehm, install the JRE?
[05:36] <Sevenhill> Firestar: uname -r
[05:36] <LjL> Khamael: well, in the man page it says it emulates a "PCI UHCI USB controller and a virtual USB hub."
[05:36] <totall_6_7> ok i need to drop out of helping you cuz i am beyond my ability
[05:36] <jUggERNAUt1980> totall_6_7, only tried it in the one cd player.  i'm out of town for work right now.
[05:36] <Firestar> Linux prophecy 2.6.15-26-amd64-server #1 SMP Fri Sep 8 20:33:15 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[05:36] <quintin> Firestar: uname -a !
[05:36] <LjL> Khamael: that might just mean it emulates one to keep the OS happy, but yet doesn't actually map it to the real USB ports, though...
[05:36] <DJAdmiral> quintin: Yeah. I did that. Java's still not working in firefox.
[05:36] <Khamael> LjL: but my PalmOS won`t sync. at least ootb
[05:36] <DJAdmiral> quintin: got any other bright ideas?
[05:36] <jUggERNAUt1980> sittin in a hotel after bein up all night workin', chatting in ubuntu.  no better way to spend today!  :P
[05:36] <Khamael> not ootb
[05:36] <quintin> DJAdmiral: ........
[05:36] <quintin> DJAdmiral: Example of what is not working?
[05:36] <JosefK> Firestarter: sudo aptitude install linux-amd64-server
[05:36] <quintin> DJAdmiral: Try http://games.yahoo.com/ ?
[05:37] <LjL> Khamael: i think you need to pass the "-usb" option to qemu
[05:37] <JosefK> Firestarter: when you reboot, make sure you hit 'escape' and check it's the default in GRUB
[05:37] <squarepusher> How can I get GNU/Screen to recognize two different $shelltitle vars?
[05:37] <Firestar> JosefK, my server is on this version - Linux prophecy 2.6.15-26-amd64-server #1 SMP Fri Sep 8 20:33:15 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux - must I still do that aptitude install command?
[05:37] <DJAdmiral> quintin: A java applet is not working. I know it when it's not.
[05:37] <LjL> Khamael: there's also a "-usbdevice <device-name>" option, it says to look at the usb_add monitor command for more information
[05:37] <quintin> DJAdmiral: Right, but can you run other things?
[05:37] <JosefK> nope :/ that's the server release
[05:37] <DJAdmiral> quintin: as in?
[05:37] <Khamael> LjL: trying to boot with -usb
[05:38] <b0konon> Hi, I installed kubuntu and did a dist-upgrade together with ubuntu-desktop. Since I don't have a monitor right now, I've connected the PC to my telly via a graphix card (Geforce MX?).
[05:38] <b0konon> problem is, after the upgrade, X won't work.
[05:38] <squarepusher> For example: two users, normal user has prompt ending with $, and root has prompt with #... but screen only sees the normal user's $shelltitle.
[05:38] <quintin> DJAdmiral: As in games.yahoo.com !
[05:38] <squarepusher> Has anyone figured this out?
[05:38] <b0konon> before it did- with the fresh installation. and yes, its not the most suitable thing- just a temporary setup.
[05:38] <quintin> DJAdmiral: Or, try http://java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
[05:38] <Khamael> is there an easy way to run dapper with beta nvidia drivers?
[05:38] <n3t0> forum menssages can be using on the karma of launchpad
[05:38] <n3t0> ?
[05:39] <DJAdmiral> quintin: No they do not.
[05:39] <b0konon> i'd reconfigured xserver-xorg several times and used the vertical refresh ranges identified by the wizard. so any ideas to fix the problem?
[05:39] <Firestar> JosefK I tried installing that, and it's not doing anything, so I think I'm already on that version. Any other ideas?
[05:39] <DJAdmiral> quintin: cause firefox thinks the plugin doesn't exist.
[05:39] <b0konon> its not a common problem, thats why i couldnt find any help on it on the forums.
[05:39] <SeanTater> I want to add a user to a group (namely, fuse), how do I do that?
[05:39] <quintin> DJAdmiral: Screwy!!  Try uninstalling / reinstalling JRE perhaps?
[05:39] <JosefK> Firestarter: sadly not, I've only dealt with Solaris boxes with that much RAM, sorry :/
[05:40] <Firestar> :(
[05:40] <quintin> SeanTater: Search the web.
[05:40] <DJAdmiral> SeanTater: System > Administration > Users and Groups
[05:40] <UNDERsoN> What curent version of edgy
[05:40] <Firestar> thanks for trying in any case, JosefK
[05:40] <totall_6_7> jUggERNAUt1980: i am just wondering, your friends car's cd player; do you know if your friend has played any CDR disks at all? I ask cuz some cd players will not accept CDR
[05:40] <UNDERsoN> !edgy
[05:40] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:40] <vrkhans> Hi i just installted the ubuntu with the gnome desktop enviorment, how i can install fluxbox and remove gnome
[05:40] <JosefK> np's, your kernel has large memory support, there are some kernel options you can use to force RAM detection
[05:40] <DJAdmiral> quintin: How long have you had ubuntu?
[05:40] <squarepusher> Does .screenrc have access to bash environment variables?
[05:40] <jUggERNAUt1980> totall_6_7, that's mostly the kind of disc he has.
[05:40] <SeanTater> quintin, DJAdmiral: thanks
[05:40] <DJAdmiral> SeanTater: Anytime.
[05:41] <totall_6_7> jUggERNAUt1980: ok i had to ask
[05:41] <totall_6_7> lol
[05:41] <jUggERNAUt1980> totall_6_7, word!
[05:41] <Firestar> JosefK, can you point in to a document where I can learn how to do this? (force RAM detection, that is)
[05:41] <quintin> DJAdmiral: shrug.  been using 6.06 for a few months, used it ... some time ago, forget which version.  been using debian for years.  why?
[05:41] <JosefK> I'm just trying to find some now Firestar :)
[05:41] <Firestar> thanks
[05:41] <Firestar> I really appreciate the help
[05:41] <quintin> Firestar: You can boot the kernel with mem=xyz or such
[05:42] <Firestar> I'm actually quite despirate right now
[05:42] <Firestar> hmmm, quintin. I'm SSH'ing into the box. How do I do that if I'm not in front of the machine?
[05:42] <DJAdmiral> quintin: cause if you have been using linux for that long you'd definitely be able to give more solid answers rather than "uninstall and reinstall the JRE" and "search the web" -.-
[05:42] <karass> Hi, I installed kubuntu and did a dist-upgrade together with ubuntu-desktop. Since I don't have a monitor right now, I've connected the PC to my telly via a graphix card (Geforce MX?).
[05:42] <Dr_willis> i rember ages ago  having to use some kernel boot options to tell it how much ram i had.
[05:42] <JosefK> Firestar: indeed, mem=4096
[05:42] <karass> before it did- with the fresh installation. and yes, its not the most suitable thing- just a temporary setup.
[05:42] <Firestar> ok
[05:43] <karass> i'd reconfigured xserver-xorg several times and used the vertical refresh ranges identified by the wizard. so any ideas to fix the problem?
[05:43] <Firestar> I'm sure I'll figure out how to do that! Thanks VERY much for the help!
[05:43] <JosefK> Firestar: to test it, when you reboot the machine Press Escape at grub, then hit 'e'
[05:43] <quintin> DJAdmiral: "how do I add a user to a group" is a question that people need to figure out on their own by searching google.  I don't do hand-holding unless I'm being paid well.
[05:43] <karass> its not a common problem, thats why i couldnt find any help on it on the forums.
[05:43] <DJAdmiral> quintin: I see.
[05:43] <JosefK> Firestar: add it to the end of the top line by pressing 'e' again - if it works, come back here and we'll add it permanently to GRUB
[05:43] <quintin> DJAdmiral: as for telling you to reinstall java, that is what I would try first, since most things "just work" when installed in ubuntu, and my java / flash always has
[05:43] <quintin> DJAdmiral: which JRE are you using?  sun?
[05:44] <Dr_willis> karass,  i missed the actual problem?  its not showing up on the tv? or what.
[05:44] <DJAdmiral> quintin: correct.
[05:44] <Firestar> JosefK, I'm not in front of the machine. It's at a hosting company. I'm SSH'ing into it
[05:44] <Firestar> I cannot press e
[05:44] <Yaakov> You just did!  Twice!
[05:44] <JosefK> Firestarter: ah :P edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[05:44] <LeeJunFan> since ifrename requires udev and a bunch of other removals, what is one to do with a server to make sure the interfaces come up with the same ethX designation when swapping cards?
[05:44] <vrkhans> Hi i just installted the ubuntu with the gnome desktop enviorment, how i can install fluxbox and remove gnome
[05:45] <JosefK> Firestarter: search for kopt=, it'll be a commented line, add it to that
[05:45] <quintin> Firestar: what is your memory problem again, exactly?  You can force memory with mem=2048MB or whatever at boot time
[05:45] <karass> Dr_willis: the terminals do. X doesnt. ok, recapping. 1. I installed kubuntu fresh from cd. 2. dist-upgraded and installed ubuntu-desktop (with new updates for xorg-xserver et. al) 3. X disappears (but GDM/KDM works properly- i can tell from the sound alerts).
[05:45] <JosefK> Firestarter: after that, run 'sudo update-grub' to have GRUB set those kopts on all the boot options
[05:45] <erUSUL> Firestar: maybe you need the bigiron kernel with that much ram ??
[05:46] <Dr_willis> karass,  i was thinkin gi had to install  the nvidia drivers to get the tv out working correctly
[05:46] <Dr_willis> karass,  then i twiddled with the twinview settings
[05:46] <quintin> DJAdmiral: I'm thoroughly annoyed sometimes when people ask things that can be learned in 30s by doing a google search you see
[05:47] <karass> Dr_willis_ you mean the proprietary nvidia drivers? ok, i'll see how that works then.
[05:47] <Dr_willis> Yes.
[05:47] <Firestar> JosefK I'm looking at the menu.lst file now, but I don't know to which line to add the mem=4096 statement too. Any idea?
[05:47] <Dr_willis> karass,  then mine defaulted to the tv out.. my desktop vanished. :P i then happened to turn on the tv and there it was
[05:47] <Firestar> quintin, I'm trying that now. JosefK is helping me add it to the menu.lst file
[05:47] <JosefK> Firestar: aye, the commented line starting with kopt=
[05:48] <Dr_willis> karass,  i later tweaked the twinview stuff to clone the tv and monitor.
[05:48] <Lam_> should i go with Ubuntu 64 or wait for Edgy in October?
[05:48] <Dr_willis> Lam_,  why do you need 64bit at all?
[05:48] <quintin> Firestar: ja ja.  You can make it do that every time so you don't have to enter it manually.  how much ram you have?
[05:48] <Lam_> Dr_willis: why not?
[05:49] <x-demon> oh
[05:49] <x-demon> hi again
[05:49] <x-demon> i have problem with kubuntu
[05:49] <Dr_willis> Lam_,  wine, flash, issues for a start... driver issues with some devices for another
[05:49] <Dr_willis> Lam_,  in short if you dont know you need 64bit. its proberly best ti stick with the 32bit distto
[05:49] <x-demon> after starting Xorg i see very strange picture...
[05:49] <karass> Dr_willis: for the time being i won't need to use twinview (a package?) - but will see how it works once i get the monitor. on another unrelated issue- are there any incompatibilities among the default dependencies for webserver/php/mysql? I am asking cause am getting a 'fatal: undefined function call' error.
[05:49] <Lam_> Dr_willis: ok. i'll hold off then. thanks
[05:50] <karass> according to PHP-mailing lists, its due to a change of syntax.
[05:50] <Firestar> JosefK. I'm not getting a kopt line that isn't commented out. This is all there is (with kopt in it)
[05:50] <Firestar> ## ## Start Default Options ##
[05:50] <Firestar> ## default kernel options
[05:50] <Firestar> ## default kernel options for automagic boot options
[05:50] <Firestar> ## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z
[05:50] <Firestar> ## where x.y.z is kernel version. Minor versions can be omitted.
[05:50] <Firestar> ## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro
[05:50] <Firestar> ##      kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro
[05:50] <Firestar> ##      kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro
[05:50] <Firestar> # kopt=root=/dev/sda1 ro
[05:50] <sic> is it possible to use the live cd / dvd in the package manager so that i don't have to download the pakages?
[05:50] <JosefK> Firestar: that last line, with the single '#', add mem=4096 to it
[05:50] <Dr_willis>  # kopt=root=/dev/sda1 ro mem=10000000000
[05:50] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:51] <JosefK> Firestar: then save it, and run 'sudo update-grub' :)
[05:51] <karass> what i can't figure out is whether the php connector used in ubuntu dapper is compatible with the mysql engine or whatever that determines the inter-operability. I understand that there's no bugs in when using php4 with mysql.
[05:51] <Dr_willis> logical eh.
[05:52] <karass> more of a mysql/php issue eh? well, even so, was wondering whether php is compiled with mysql support. it should be according to ubuntuforums if i install libphp-mysql package.
[05:52] <Firestar> JosefK I assume I have to restart the server now, right?
[05:52] <quintin> sic: yes.  go to add repositories, and add the CD
[05:52] <Firestar> or is there some sort of hot restart of a component?
[05:53] <JosefK> Firestar: nah, not for the kernel, make sure you did the update-grub then just reboot it
[05:53] <Firestar> reboot the bos?
[05:53] <Hagbarddenstore> Hey all!
[05:53] <Firestar> box*
[05:53] <Hagbarddenstore> How do I make aliases for commands in Linux?
[05:53] <JosefK> Firestar: aye
[05:53] <Firestar> ok, thanks
[05:53] <Firestar> will do
[05:53] <LjL> Hagbarddenstore: with the "alias" command
[05:53] <Hagbarddenstore> LjL: Then?
[05:53] <Hagbarddenstore> alias whatnow whatnow?
[05:53] <quintin> Hagbarddenstore: Search the web.  alias='mycommand -myoption' will set it for your current session.
[05:53] <LjL> Hagbarddenstore: alias newcommand=oldcommand
[05:54] <Hagbarddenstore> LjL: kk
[05:54] <LjL> Hagbarddenstore: to make that stick, you can add that to your .bashrc
[05:54] <sic> quintin: thx
[05:54] <Dr_willis> Hagbarddenstore,  you really should look up some bash tutorials/guides -
[05:54] <LjL> Hagbarddenstore: for more info on the "alias" command, type "help alias"
[05:54] <daurn> hi all
[05:54] <daurn> i'm having trouble with a certain soundcard
[05:54] <POVaddct> Hagbarddenstore: for example: alias cd=logout   :))
[05:54] <Dr_willis> Hagbarddenstore,  theres a lot of neat alias tricks you can do
[05:54] <quintin> sic: no problem
[05:54] <daurn> !sound
[05:54] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[05:55] <quintin> daurn: what certain sound card?  is it supported by the kernel?
[05:55] <daurn> yeah
[05:55] <eurytus> I dislike mouse accel, but the max speed/no acceleration setting is far too slow. Is there something I can manually edit to boost my sensitivity?
[05:55] <daurn> i've had sound out of it before
[05:56] <daurn> i did something Jack_Sparrow told me to do a while ago, and i've had trouble with sound since
[05:56] <sic> daurn: you mean Captain jack sparrow ;)
[05:57] <sic> daurn: sry - watch the movie yesterday *g*
[05:57] <Lam_> for the broadcom users, is anyone using bcm43xx-fwcutter for 4318 or 4319?
[05:57] <Lam_> !broadcom
[05:57] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:57] <briank> hello everyone, I can't seem to get quicktime files to play in firefox with mplayer
[05:58] <mattik> Hello. How can I get flash games running in Firefox with DApper?
[05:58] <led_floyd> hi all
[05:58] <briank> I have the additional codecs installed, but it just says stopped
[05:58] <daurn> uh
[05:58] <mattik> Keyboard aren't running with flash games
[05:58] <daurn> any1?
[05:58] <led_floyd> i've some problems to configure samba+ldap
[05:59] <briank> anyone have any similar experiences?
[05:59] <led_floyd> when i run # net getlocalsid i receiv this error:
[05:59] <led_floyd> [2006/09/28 17:55:34, 0]  lib/smbldap.c:smb_ldap_start_tls(546)
[05:59] <led_floyd>   Failed to issue the StartTLS instruction: Connect error
[05:59] <led_floyd> someone can help me?
[06:00] <Firestar> JosefK, sorry, it doesn't work :(
[06:00] <mattik> Has flash buggies in dapper?
[06:00] <Firestar> how can I confirm that it picked up my change?
[06:01] <WRFC_Rabbit> hi ppl
[06:01] <WRFC_Rabbit> i need my printer to work and i need help with it!
[06:02] <Hoxzer> how do I change my defautl sound card?
[06:02] <m_0_r_0_n> How do I get the size of a file in a bash script ... if [ ? $file -lt 20000]  ... ?
[06:03] <none> if you dont find anything else use "du"
[06:04] <ladydoor> is it possible to set up syntax highlighting in less?
[06:04] <hantu> haven't heard of that, ladydoor
[06:04] <Dr_willis> ladydoor,  not that i have ever seen
[06:05] <daurn> ok
[06:05] <ladydoor> hantu: yeah, i thought that i'd heard of it somewhere, but maybe not :-)
[06:05] <daurn> i need help
[06:05] <daurn> sound
[06:05] <ladydoor> !ask
[06:05] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:05] <hantu> less -r?
[06:05] <daurn> how can i TOTALLY reset sound config
[06:05] <FlaX> After compiling a a kernel, how do i install it?
[06:05] <eurytus> I dislike mouse accel, but the max speed/no acceleration setting is far too slow. Is there something I can manually edit to boost my sensitivity?
[06:05] <daurn> i just want to dump it and start again
[06:06] <LjL> m_0_r_0_n: perhaps this is a bit stupid, but i can think of      if [ "`ls -s $File | cut -d " " -f1`" -lt SIZE ] ; then .......
[06:06] <Dr_willis> eurytus,  tried that Mouse-settings contorl panel thing yet?
[06:06] <hantu> ladydoor: i found http://www-zeuthen.desy.de/~friebel/unix/less/README
[06:06] <hantu> ladydoor: should be what you want.
[06:06] <eurytus> Dr_willis, yes, that is the "max speed/no accel" setting I was referring to
[06:06] <ladydoor> LjL: yeah, never mind. it wasn't a big deal, just a random point of curiosity
[06:06] <meal3837> !pastebin
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[06:06] <ladydoor> hantu: cool
[06:06] <josh__> Hi everyone :)
[06:07] <eurytus> I tried using that to change my mouse speed, the maximum speed is too slow to have no acceleration
[06:07] <daurn> any1?
[06:07] <nei1> hello
[06:07] <josh__> How do i change the shortcut key from CTRL+ALT+Delete to something else?
[06:07] <josh__> For restarting X
[06:07] <Dr_willis> josh__,  why would you want to?
[06:08] <meal3837> anyone using edgy?
[06:08] <nei1> trying to install ndiswrapper
[06:08] <LjL> !edgy
[06:08] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:08] <josh__> Whenever im typing something in forums etc, I keep hitting ctrl+alt+del
[06:08] <soheil> hi room
[06:08] <hantu> xbindkeys should help, josh.
[06:08] <josh__> especially after typing quite alot, its quite annoying
[06:08] <ladydoor> meal3837: ask in #ubuntu+1.
[06:08] <Dr_willis> josh__,  You must really have fat fingers.
[06:09] <hantu> (i dont see how typing in forums makes you press c/a/del) :P
[06:09] <soheil> Why cannot I compile my C++ codes in ubuntu?
[06:09] <hantu> soheil: errors?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> josh__,  you can disable the sequence totally in the xorg.conf
[06:09] <soheil> yes
[06:09] <ladydoor> soheil: have you installed build-essential?
[06:09] <LjL> josh__: perhaps http://www.faqs.org/faqs/aix-faq/part2/section-34.html
[06:09] <josh__> im clumsy lol
[06:09] <quintin> Any tips on how to make my desktop more responsive?
[06:09] <soheil> I g++ them
[06:09] <ladydoor> quintin: to?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> alt-ctrl BACKSPACE kills X - alt-ctrl-Delete reboots
[06:09] <quintin> soheil: ehm... install copmiler etc?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> or at least will at the console.
[06:09] <soheil> no, just g++
[06:09] <josh__> ill try, thanks everyone :)
[06:09] <josh__> i mean backspace lol
[06:09] <none> quintin: buy more ram
[06:09] <hantu> ladydoor: did that help?
[06:09] <quintin> none: it has 512
[06:09] <eurytus> is this a laptop keyboard or something?
[06:10] <Dr_willis> a-s-bs -> xorg setting 'nozap'  i belive its called.
[06:10] <ladydoor> hantu: haha, yeah...i was just curious, basically :-)
[06:10] <josh__> i press ctrl+backspace to take off that word when I make a typo, then hit alt with my thumb
[06:10] <soheil> I installed g++-4.0
[06:10] <nei1> anyone help with wireless ndiswrapper
[06:10] <quintin> I mean as far as menus opening, etc.  I don't want delays or effects, I just want things to happen NOOOOWW
[06:10] <daurn> someone, HELP ME PLEASE
[06:10] <soheil> Why cannot I compile my C++ codes in ubuntu?
[06:10] <ladydoor> quintin: use fluxbox or some other lightweight wm?
[06:10] <hantu> nei1: plenty of howto's in the forum, have you tried?
[06:10] <eurytus> your thumb shouldn't be near alt
[06:10] <ladydoor> !repeat
[06:10] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:10] <soheil> I installed g++-4.0
[06:10] <LjL> !tell soheil about build-essential
[06:10] <Dr_willis> !ask
[06:10] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:10] <eurytus> keep it over the space bar
[06:10] <quintin> ladydoor: windows xp is blazing fast on this machine..
[06:11] <nei1> yes can't run make install got it working  on my desktop ok
[06:11] <eurytus> !patience
[06:11] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:11] <ladydoor> daurn: be patient. if nobody knows, nobody will say anything. also, SHOUTING is unnecessary
[06:11] <Dr_willis> ive yet to see XP blazinly fast on any machine. :P
[06:11] <quintin> ANy recomendations for a BT client?  Tried ktorrent and regular bittorrent, both of them are sucking
[06:11] <hantu> quintin: azureus :o
[06:11] <kothz> anyone setup some sort of fetchmail -> mta (exim?) -> imapd (cyrus?) on ubuntu?  Looking for some sort of "i don't have to think about it" best practices document :)
[06:11] <ladydoor> quintin: bittornado
[06:11] <eurytus> bittornado is awesome
[06:11] <soheil> I thought build-essential is neccessary to install debian paxkages
[06:11] <hantu> heh
[06:11] <Dr_willis> give xp a week to collect the malware/spyware/crudware - it will show dosn.
[06:11] <LjL> soheil: wrong
[06:11] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:11] <hantu> i only use bittorrent for the simplicity.
[06:11] <quintin> hantu: ehm no.  friend tells me his azureus uses like 400mbytes of ram.  and it's java ffs :P
[06:11] <soheil> *was
[06:11] <LjL> soheil: you need build-essential for most compiles
[06:11] <hantu> Dr_willis: a week? give it 2 days max, connected to internet.
[06:11] <daurn> how can i totally reset sound config?
[06:12] <josh__> dr_wiilis: a week of downloading cracked/illegal software? :P
[06:12] <hantu> quintin: i don't run azureus on linux, that just came all of a sudden.
[06:12] <soheil> so why is it necessary?
[06:12] <soheil> compilers u mean?
[06:12] <quintin> ladydoor: is it super duper fast?  I see that in the peers list quite often
[06:12] <Dr_willis> josh__,  i download.. err... never mind.. :P this is a faimly channel
[06:12] <quintin> Oh please, XP is fine with a competent admin
[06:12] <LjL> soheil: because gcc or g++ alone don't contain everything that's needed. doesn't come with libc6-dev, for instance
[06:13] <eurytus> yeah, the xp bashing is a little over-the-top
[06:13] <azzgor> hello
[06:13] <daurn> quintin: azureus is a total ram hog
[06:13] <ladydoor> quintin: what do you mean? i use the curses version, and so i'm not familiar with the ui--i have no idea how fast its menus open and such.
[06:13] <LjL> soheil: no, i meant "most compiles" as in "most stuff that you will compile". but anyway
[06:13] <azzgor> is there any way of making the gnome pannel look like KDE?
[06:13] <daurn> quintin: with azurues + firefox, i end up using 2gb of ram
[06:13] <quintin> ladydoor: no I mean fast as far as download speed.  it's not a GUI client?
[06:13] <Dr_willis> azzgor,  what a weird thing to ask. :P
[06:13] <quintin> daurn: that is *sick*
[06:13] <Firestar> quintin, I added the mem=4096 to my kopt line in menu.lst, but it's still not picking up 4GB of RAM. Exactly the same amount of RAM is picked up (~2.7 GB). Any ideas?
[06:13] <soheil> wwhy I can't do programs in Anjjuta?
[06:13] <ladydoor> quintin: it has a gui version and a normal version
[06:14] <azzgor> Dr_willis: hehe
[06:14] <quintin> ladydoor: I see!  I will check it out, thanks.  I like utorrent best, but it is win only
[06:14] <soheil> because of build-essential?
[06:14] <daurn> i haven't found any good *nix BT clients
[06:14] <hantu> what does the software has anything to do with how fast you download?
[06:14] <LjL> soheil: i don't know, don't use anjuta. but trust me anyway, you *want* to install build-essential if you want to do any compiling at all.
[06:14] <ladydoor> quintin: but its download speed is pretty fast, i guess
[06:14] <daurn> i liked utorrent in windows
[06:14] <CokeNCode> daurn qtorrent is good
[06:14] <Firestar> quintin is there any way to check if the change happened?
[06:14] <daurn> i've been using KTorrent lately
[06:14] <josh__> daurn: azureus or gTorrent
[06:14] <nei1> help please with ndiswrapper on a compaq laptop
[06:14] <Dr_willis> Firestar,  you may want to google that option. I though it was mem=4096mb or similer..
[06:14] <azzgor> still, i dont like that "Applications, Places,System" i just want a menu with everything in it
[06:14] <LjL> soheil: just try installing it, and see if anjuta then works. i suppose anjuta might need make, which doesn't come with g++ either, only with build-essential
[06:14] <quintin> Firestar: look at output from top or look at /proc/meminfo
[06:14] <penny_penguin> Any tips on resolving gcc and kernel compiled gcc mismatch (5.10)?
[06:14] <hantu> nei1: i told you, have you tried the forums
[06:14] <azzgor> just like the K Menu
[06:14] <nei1> yes
[06:14] <daurn> josh__: i want ram for using my computer thankyou very much
[06:15] <FlaX> What's the ubuntu equivalence for 'dpkg -i kernel-image-kernelname.deb' ?
[06:15] <Dr_willis> azzgor,  you can add to panel, similer things..
[06:15] <[BTF] Chm0d> sheez nobody in #unbuntu-xgl wants to even help you out
[06:15] <josh__> daurn: how much do you have?
[06:15] <Dr_willis> azzgor,  or just run the kde panel. :P
[06:15] <nei1> yes hantu
[06:15] <quintin> Ok, now I have 3 downloads going with bittorrent ... 20kB 15kB and 10kB ... my line is capable of 1000kB though
[06:15] <daurn> josh__: this computer, 768
[06:15] <ladydoor> FlaX: sudo dpkg -i image-kernelname.deb
[06:15] <Firestar> quintin, Dr_willis, top doesn't show more than ~2.7 GB, even after the change. I'll check the syntax, though
[06:15] <josh__> daurn: i run everything with under 250 meg
[06:15] <hantu> nei1: never used a compaq, but i thought ndiswrapper is probably all the same setup exceept you ahve to use the drivers for your card.
[06:15] <ladydoor> quintin: well, i mean, it all depends on your share ratio doesn't it?
[06:15] <daurn> josh__: i can't get azureus to run under 512mb
[06:15] <Dr_willis> Firestar,  yea.. i may be wrong.. i last used that ages ago.
[06:15] <azzgor> Dr_willis: okay, and how do i remove the texts near the icon?
[06:15] <hantu> quintin: it could be the seeders
[06:16] <josh__> daurn: what the... it runs at way way less then that for me
[06:16] <FlaX> ladydoor: doesn work for me, returns "cannot access archive: No such file or directory | Errors were encountered while processing: /usr/src/kernel-image-kernelname.deb
[06:16] <Firestar> Dr_willis, any other ideas as to why my server doesn't want to pick up 4GB of RAM?
[06:16] <Dr_willis> azzgor,  no clue. i use KDE.  ya could always use some gdesklet launcher if you perfer
[06:16] <Dr_willis> Firestar,  some bios/kernel bugglets perhaps..
[06:16] <quintin> ladydoor: not sure.  utorrent gets things fast even if I'm not sharing lots... depending on the seeds.
[06:16] <josh__> daurn: Are you using the official?
[06:16] <kothz> Does your BIOS see 4GB of ram?
[06:16] <soheil> Any good chess software fo ubuntu?
[06:16] <quintin> hantu: yea.  one file has 1k seends though
[06:16] <quintin> Dr_willis: Install FreeBSD =)
[06:16] <soheil> I'm a chess player, u know'
[06:16] <quintin> soheil: gnuchess with xboard.  search web for details.  both in synaptic
[06:16] <ladydoor> FlaX: so wait a second. are you trying to install a non-standard kernel? did you get it from some debian site (or was it listed as a debian package)
[06:17] <LjL> azzgor, i use KDE too, but i i think among the Gnome panel applets there are separate Apps, Places and System applets that only give you an icon... try browsing around the applet list
[06:17] <daurn> josh__: yes
[06:17] <Firestar> Dr_willis, bios picks up the RAM correctly. I'm on latest AMD64 kernel. Any more info?
[06:17] <WRFC_Rabbit> on via arena driver selection what is the closest to ubuntu?? Linux XFree86 (Not distribution-specific)
[06:17] <WRFC_Rabbit> Mandriva 2006 Linux
[06:17] <WRFC_Rabbit> Mandrake / Mandriva pre-2006 Linux
[06:17] <WRFC_Rabbit> Fedora Core 5.0 Linux
[06:17] <WRFC_Rabbit> Fedora Core 4.0 Linux
[06:17] <WRFC_Rabbit> Fedora Core 3.0 Linux
[06:17] <ladydoor> FlaX: if so, the problem may have to do with debian & ubuntu not having 100% compatibility--you should probably install from source
[06:17] <FlaX> ladydoor: got it from www.kernel.org - the latest stabl version
[06:17] <WRFC_Rabbit> Fedora Core 1.0 & 2.0 Linux
[06:17] <LjL> !pastebin
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[06:17] <ladydoor> !paste
[06:17] <WRFC_Rabbit> SuSE Linux
[06:17] <soheil> what about a chess database?
[06:17] <WRFC_Rabbit> Source
[06:17] <WRFC_Rabbit> Red Flag Linux
[06:17] <WRFC_Rabbit> Red Hat Linux
[06:17] <ladydoor> !ops
[06:17] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[06:17] <WRFC_Rabbit> MAC OS
[06:17] <LjL> !ops
[06:17] <ladydoor> LjL: i totally win
[06:17] <LjL> ladydoor: :-P
[06:18] <ladydoor> FlaX: oh, cool. let me see...just a sec
[06:18] <ladydoor> !kernel > FlaX
[06:18] <ladydoor> FlaX: read the bot's pm...and good luck
[06:18] <FlaX> thx
[06:18] <hantu> it hurts my eyes just to follow things here.
[06:18] <hantu> ;p
[06:19] <Firestar> that makes 2 of us :(
[06:19] <josh__> its shift+delete to restart x, thats why it keeps restarting X
[06:19] <Dr_willis> josh__,  let me guess.. you are using XGL
[06:19] <daurn> how can i totally reset sound config?
[06:19] <josh__> dr_willis: yes, i just installed it
[06:19] <LjL> josh__: only if you're using XGL
[06:20] <Dr_willis> josh__,  and thats the reason why then.
[06:20] <soheil> I don't find gnuchess in synaptic
[06:20] <TrashHalo> quick question. how do input a logical "or" into a find comand. Like if I want to do find . -name "*.jpg" -name "*.png"
[06:20] <josh__> argh!!
[06:20] <Dr_willis> josh__,  thats a XGL faq.. time to google it.
[06:20] <Dr_willis> !xgl
[06:20] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:20] <josh__> Ok, thanks
[06:21] <mbuf> is there any software/tool for doing console (80x25) based documentation with indentation ?
[06:22] <nei1> hello back new to this irc
[06:22] <hantu> nroff?
[06:22] <hantu> or whatever it is. i forgot.
[06:22] <mbuf> hantu, like the man-pages documentation ?
[06:22] <hantu> myeah.
[06:22] <quintin> TrashHalo: use regexp
[06:23] <josh__> compiz/xgl is the same?
[06:23] <hantu> the 'markup' language.
[06:23] <keleus> I keep getting warnings about unsigned packages when installing from the ubuntu repos - how do I fix that? ( i think i lost the keys somehow? )
[06:24] <nei1> hantu I have ndiswrapper working on mandriva but just installed ubuntu on my laptop ndiswrapper will not make install
[06:24] <sergo> is there any local area connection chat from ubuntu?
[06:24] <Dr_willis> josh__,  they are closely related/intertwined
[06:24] <TrashHalo> quintin: I tried but I may be doing it wrong. I tried,, find . -name "(*.jpg)|(*.png)"
[06:24] <josh__> http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/1000095 found the answer :)
[06:24] <mbuf> hantu, thanks
[06:24] <LjL> !tell keleus about gpgerr
[06:24] <hantu> nei1: maybe the error messages will tell something.
[06:24] <hantu> its pretty vague for any of us to answer that.
[06:24] <sergo> is there any lan chat from ubuntu?
[06:24] <keleus> how do i switch to other "windows" in irssi?
[06:24] <nei1> hantu   error 1 then error 2
[06:25] <jrib> TrashHalo: use -o for or or if you want to use regex, you need to do -regex instead of -name
[06:25] <keleus> i cant read that message from ubotu
[06:25] <mbuf> sergo, run ircd-hybrid and use gaim or irssi ?
[06:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> sergo, what do you mean?
[06:25] <hantu> nei1: pastebin it.
[06:25] <hantu> !pastebin
[06:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:25] <TrashHalo> jrib: ahhh thanks
[06:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> keleus, 'alt+number'
[06:25] <morrye> How do you open ports for the bittorrent client that comes with ubuntu?
[06:25] <POVaddct> TrashHalo: or use this: find . -name "*.jpg" -o -name "*.png"
[06:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> moreon, when you install a client, it will open automagically i suspect
[06:26] <keleus> thanks Kamping_Kaiser thats usefull to know :)
[06:26] <POVaddct> TrashHalo: -o is for "or"
[06:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[06:26] <keleus> thanks LjL
[06:26] <nei1> hantu it says can't find kernel build
[06:26] <TrashHalo> POVaddct: thanks!
[06:26] <JoshRZ> ARGH
[06:26] <sergo> the answer is no? ..
[06:26] <sergo> ok, maybe is time to install windows then
[06:26] <sergo> there a lot of lan chat
[06:26] <hantu> lan chat? :o
[06:26] <sergo> like vypress ..
[06:26] <quintin> morrye: ehm, that depends on your router.  if your router and BT client both support universal plug and play you may not have to do anything
[06:26] <sergo> or other
[06:26] <TrashHalo> despite using linux for 8 years now I have always struggled with find commands >_>
[06:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> er, sergo
[06:26] <quintin> yea
[06:27] <hantu> ive no idea whats vypress, heh.
[06:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> not seraphim
[06:27] <lupine_85> find / -name <whatever>
[06:27] <quintin> I use ls -R | grep
[06:27] <morrye> quintin: How do I find out the port range of the torrent or will I need to install a better client?
[06:27] <hantu> TrashHalo: all i do is find / -name foo
[06:27] <hantu> heh
[06:27] <quintin> grin
[06:27] <hantu> or locate.
[06:27] <quintin> morrye: ehm... which client are you using?  The regular one?  search the web and find out what port it uses!!
[06:27] <TrashHalo> quintin: haha thats what I do too
[06:27] <TrashHalo> quintin: makes more sense that way
[06:28] <keleus> When a repository in this list has a GPG key, you may need to add that to the APT trusted keys. You can do this with the following commands (replace KEY with the key ID)
[06:28] <POVaddct> TrashHalo: find syntax is funny when you use -exec
[06:28] <quintin> TrashHalo: *g*
[06:28] <keleus> where do i find the key I need to import?
[06:28] <keleus> this is for the US repo and security
[06:28] <sergo> heh
[06:28] <soheil> I installed build-essential in synaptic.Do I 'apt-get install build-essential' now?
[06:29] <sergo> anyone use lan?
[06:29] <Dr_willis> soheil,  those commands do the same thing.
[06:29] <JoshRZ> Woot, fixed the shift+backspace
[06:29] <sergo> how do you chat with others from lan that use Vypresschat?
[06:29] <Dr_willis> soheil,  so its installed.
[06:29] <nei1> how do i install kernel build files
[06:29] <hantu> nei1: i don't know, sounds like you didnt do kernel header? not sure, really.
[06:29] <JoshRZ> Whoever had that great idea doesnt know how annoying it is :D
[06:29] <soheil> so no need for it?
[06:29] <Dr_willis> soheil,  do it and see what it says
[06:29] <keleus> LjL: whats the KeyIDs for the repos?
[06:29] <keleus> that info seems to be absent... yet somewhat important
[06:29] <LjL> keleus: dunno, which repos?
[06:30] <sergo> :(
[06:30] <TrashHalo> find ~ \( -iname '*.jpg' -o -iname '*.png' \) -a \! -wholename "*\/\.*" \! -wholename "*\/Misc\/*"      <---- final working find command. >_< Find is the devil
[06:31] <soheil> # ap-get install build-essential
[06:31] <soheil> bash: ap-get: command not found
[06:31] <LjL> it's apt-get
[06:31] <hantu> apt-get
[06:31] <sergo> LjL: hi, do you know how can i chat with frinds that are on windows vypresschat?
[06:31] <[BTF] Chm0d> what does everyone in here use as an audio player?
[06:31] <LjL> sergo: never even heard about that program, to be honest
[06:31] <Dr_willis> spelling is imporntant.. as is 'looking at what you are doing and thinking.' :P
[06:31] <hantu> i run cplay
[06:31] <keleus> LjL: us.archive.ubuntu.com security.ubuntu.com wine.budgetdedicated.com
[06:32] <hantu> [BTF] Chm0d: xmms is pretty decent, mplayer?
[06:32] <hantu> :o
[06:32] <POVaddct> [BTF] Chm0d: xmms
[06:32] <sergo> LjL: what programs do you know then for chatting with frineds from lan...
[06:32] <[BTF] Chm0d> my xmms just stopped loading?  dunno what is wrong with it
[06:32] <[BTF] Chm0d> wont load
[06:32] <[BTF] Chm0d> :(
[06:32] <sergo> client
[06:32] <[BTF] Chm0d> no errors or nothing
[06:32] <LjL> sergo: none really. i don't have a LAN, so...
[06:33] <segfault_> [BTF] Chm0d, amarok
[06:33] <hantu> sergo: http://linux.bydg.org/~yogin/
[06:33] <hantu> have fun? :)
[06:33] <hantu> sergo: i don't "chat" with friends from LAN. i just yell and they'll respond.
[06:34] <[BTF] Chm0d> crap i found the error but pastebin is crappin out
[06:34] <LjL> keleus: you know what, i can't find them
[06:34] <sergo> hantu, i'll try to install vygchat..
[06:34] <sergo> hantu, where by default program will be installed
[06:34] <sergo> ?
[06:34] <herbal> Hey, im having trouble getting parallels to work when i run the config for it, this is the error i get http://pastebin.ca/185077
[06:34] <zaggynl> Does anyone know a tool to edit ISO files? I already tried isomaster, and that didn't work, unfortunatetly.
[06:35] <LjL> keleus: hm, this posting lists some keys... http://www.daniweb.com/blogs/entry769.html ... entirely unofficial though
[06:35] <JB[away] > Hi, give it Apache2.2 for ubuntu ?
[06:35] <keleus> LjL: you think they might be on the keyservers? maybe i should search for ubuntu and see what shows up
[06:36] <LjL> keleus: not sure, the ubuntu help says "There is not yet a standard location where you can find the key for a given apt repository. You will most likely find the key on the repository's web page or as a file in the repository itself."
[06:36] <quintin> zaggynl: WinRAR! =)
[06:36] <hantu> JB[away] : what?
[06:36] <LjL> keleus: i must say i never needed to put keys for the standard archive.ubuntu.com reps
[06:36] <zaggynl> quintin, :D
[06:36] <JB[away] > hantu: i need another Apache version as 2.0.55
[06:36] <zaggynl> I just found kiso in synaptic, seems to work :D
[06:37] <JB[away] > the Apache 2.0.55 is buggy. RPC over HTTP dont work :(
[06:37] <keleus> LjL holy crap search for ubuntu on pgp.mit.edu
[06:38] <sergo> hantu :( there is an error : checking correct functioning of Qt installation... failure
[06:38] <sergo> Failed to find matching components of a complete QT instalation
[06:38] <herbal> anyone know why my parallels wont run? http://pastebin.ca/185077
[06:38] <sergo> installation*
[06:38] <LjL> keleus: heh
[06:39] <quintin> zaggynl: fileroller ought to do it.  or maybe 7-zip
[06:39] <zaggynl> I tried fileroller, the option to add was greyed out, but I'm using kiso with succes now :)
[06:40] <quintin> ladydoor: Is my rate with bittornado dependant upon my upload ???
[06:40] <sergo> ohhh:((
[06:40] <sergo> this linux :((
[06:40] <sergo> why the linux exists
[06:41] <quintin> sergo: yea linux sux
[06:41] <sergo> is so lame
[06:41] <sergo> :))
[06:41] <quintin> sergo: FreeBSD ++
[06:41] <quintin> sergo: what is your problem, exactly?
[06:41] <quintin> I'm downing @11kbytes and upping at 30kbytes.  I have a frikkin 10mbit line
[06:42] <segfault_> keleus, for std ubuntu repos have u tried sudo apt-key update?
[06:42] <sergo> quintin: i don't have a problem, the linux and his software have a lot of problems
[06:42] <kothz> quintin: it depends on how well seeded the torrents are, the available bandwidth to those/from those peers, how busy they are, how busy you are...
[06:42] <herbal> nobody has any imput on my parallels issue?
[06:42] <keleus> segfault_: nope, didn't know where or what to look for
[06:42] <quintin> kothz: Right.  This is a well seeded torrent
[06:42] <POVaddct> sergo: why do you want to use such a braindead chat system? use irc!
[06:42] <x_O> Hooray! I fixed my linux box... lol
[06:42] <quintin> kothz: and I have more bandwidth than the whole downtown area of this city combined.   yet still it is slow
[06:43] <sergo> who use Vygchat?
[06:43] <segfault_> keleus, try running that command
[06:43] <sergo> POVaddct i need it to chat with peoples from my lan
[06:43] <quintin> Anyone know some kind of script to download and compile cedega automatically?
[06:43] <segfault_> quintin, search for cvscedega on google its out there
[06:43] <POVaddct> sergo: just because people are too dumb to use irc clients?
[06:44] <quintin> segfault_: *steeples fingers*  Excellent.
[06:44] <keleus> gpg: Total number processed: 2
[06:44] <keleus> gpg:              unchanged: 2
[06:44] <Firestar> Can anybody help me? I'm trying to add the mem=4096m command to my kopt line in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file, but every time I reboot (after doing a update-grub command), it resets back to the same value (i.e. no mem=4096m line). Anybody know why?
[06:44] <sergo> POVaddct: the problem is not in that, i need only to have an client to chat in lan and this is all
[06:44] <Antioch> Hi guys, Im trying to edit my .cshrc to set prompt = username@servername but I don't know how to do it, can anyone help? Thanks
[06:45] <sergo> if this is not possible,, then what to say about multimedia or other
[06:45] <sergo> :))
[06:45] <segfault_> Firestar, did u run update-grub
[06:45] <Firestar> segfault_, yes I did :(
[06:45] <quintin> Firestar: screwy!  are you sure you are writing the file?  did you update grub?
[06:45] <sergo> who use vygchat
[06:45] <cherubiel> Antioch: export PS1="\u@\h"
[06:45] <Firestar> quintin, yes I am sure. I did an offline change and then uploaded the file again...
[06:45] <Firestar> trying agian one last time.
[06:46] <Firestar> ok, I now did the change again, and verified by closing and opening the file again. Going to update grub now and then reboot, to see if it works
[06:46] <siXy> which package do i need to compile kernel modules?
[06:46] <sergo> ok, if it's impossible this than windows is a solution
[06:47] <TheGateKeeper> siXy: build-essential
[06:47] <sergo> say hello to linux developer
[06:47] <segfault_> Firestar, before rebooting chk the file to make sure it added that to ur kernel line in grub
[06:47] <Rizla420> hey guys anyone here familiar with bittorrent?  I have a simple question.
[06:47] <Rizla420> its not about firewall settings either
[06:47] <LjL> TheGateKeeper: don't think that's enough for kernel modules, though...
[06:47] <keleus> segfault_: oooh, it had stopped not too long ago... but now if it starts again i should be all set
[06:47] <j-b> hello.
[06:47] <Antioch> cherubiel there is no export command
[06:47] <siXy> thegatekeeper - thanks
[06:47] <keleus> now i just need to whine at wine to sign their repo :)
[06:47] <Firestar> segfault_ I just did. I checked the file, and it was added. I then updated grub and am now rebooting.
[06:48] <hantu> !ask
[06:48] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:48] <Subhuman> Rizla420, jus ask
[06:48] <segfault_> keleus, yeah that would be nice
[06:48] <BrianG> ax
[06:48] <cherubiel> Antioch: try PS1="\u@\h" on the commandline
[06:48] <Rizla420> anyone know what's cuasing azerus to start downloading some files and then all of a sudden my download speed drops to 0 and has to start back up
[06:48] <Rizla420> its constantly happening now
[06:48] <Rizla420> my nat is ok
[06:48] <Subhuman> Rizla420, you tried using other clients?
[06:48] <segfault_> Firestar, i dont mean chk the kopt line, i mena chk the kernel line for the mem= option
[06:48] <TheGateKeeper> siXy: sounds like you might need some extra bits & pieces, but can't tell you what as I have only compiled a kernel in gentoo
[06:48] <Subhuman> like bit tornado or ktorrent?
[06:49] <we2by> hi
[06:49] <TheGateKeeper> LjL: ^^
[06:49] <Rizla420> no i havent
[06:49] <j-b> is edgy already frozen ?
[06:49] <we2by> what tool can I use to convert pdf (with math symbols and images in it) to html with images??
[06:49] <Rizla420> azerus has been working out great lately
[06:49] <segfault_> siXy, buld-essentials, and kernel headers if they arent part of build essentials
[06:49] <Rizla420> good speed easy to use
[06:49] <jimmy_neutron> i need a little consoluting. what is the best possibe way to do this? - i want to be able to download from newsgroups from my linux box and share the files downloaded to my windows pcs. however, the drive i want to store the d/l files are on a usb externel hd. feel free to pm me. thx
[06:49] <Rizla420> granted, its a resource hog, but my sys can handle it
[06:50] <sholden> Is there any news on a new flash player for linux?  I'm getting pretty sick of youtube etc not working.
[06:50] <LjL> siXy, TheGateKeeper: i think at least one would need the kernel headers (linux-headers-`uname -r`), and possibly the kernel source (linux-source-`uname -r`)
[06:50] <Antioch> cherubiel, command not found..
[06:50] <Firestar> segfault_, I can't I'm not in front of the server. The server is at the hosting company. I only have ssh access to it.
[06:50] <Antioch> I am in TCSH
[06:50] <Rizla420> I wonder if it could be my isp or something
[06:50] <sholden> Whenever I need flash, I just fire up a VM of windows xp
[06:50] <we2by> what tool can I use to convert pdf (with math symbols and images in it) to html with images??
[06:50] <Rizla420> i have comcast
[06:50] <Subhuman> sholden, google "penguin swf" thats the offical adobe flash for linux blog
[06:50] <sholden> ok
[06:50] <Rizla420> actually no i have verizon dsl
[06:50] <siXy> trying to install the ati driver form the .run pacakge provided by ati - it complains: no kernel build environment
[06:50] <Subhuman> sholden, i think they said early 2007 release, but they have a working beta now, but its closed.
[06:50] <Rizla420> there it goes again, dropped all files to 0 download speed
[06:50] <Rizla420> then they all jump back to their previous speeds
[06:51] <segfault_> Firestar, yes u can, vim /etc/grub/menu.lst and find the line that starts with kernel for ur kernel and make sure it contains ur mem= option
[06:51] <quintin> I do not have a Cray to run azureus
[06:51] <LjL> siXy: (do the ati drivers provided in the repositories not work?)   anyway, give installing linux-headers-`uname -r` a try first, and then if that fails get the source
[06:51] <Firestar> oh, ok
[06:51] <Firestar> will check that quickly
[06:51] <segfault_> we2by, pdftohtml
[06:51] <TheGateKeeper> LjL: hmmm looks like I was assuming he/she would know they need the kernel source code :-)
[06:52] <siXy> LjL - thanks will try that. unfortuately i need the latest version of the fglrx driver, and the ones in the repo are not up to date yet
[06:52] <we2by> segfault_, it doesn't generate pictures and math symbols
[06:52] <jimmy_neutron> i need a little consoluting. what is the best possibe way to do this? - i want to be able to download from newsgroups from my linux box and share the files downloaded to my windows pcs. however, the drive i want to store the d/l files are on a usb externel hd. feel free to pm me. since the # is crowded
[06:52] <Firestar> segfault_, Ok, I checked the file, and all the kernel lines (4 of them) has the mem=4096m option added. But my server still only picks up ~2.7GB of RAM. Any ideas?
[06:53] <sholden> Subhuman: *sigh* heh...  i guess i can wait =/
[06:53] <sholden> VM will get me by til then
[06:54] <jimmy_neutron> anyone?
[06:54] <Rizla420> anyone have experieince ripping/burning dvds?  I just got a lightscribe burner and was wondering whether i should do my ripping/burning in win or if linux/ubuntu has some good alternatives
[06:54] <quintin> Rizla420: DVDShrink++
[06:54] <Antioch> how can I save the output of uname to a variable?
[06:54] <Rizla420> qunitin thats it?
[06:54] <quintin> Rizla420: MythTV has some copying things.  Find out what they use maybe.
[06:54] <Dr_willis> export foo = `uname`
[06:54] <Rizla420> does it rip the newer dvd's as well
[06:54] <LjL> Antioch: WHATEVERVARIABLE=`uname`
[06:54] <quintin> Rizla420: that's all I use for duping DVDs
[06:55] <Dr_willis> Antioch,  bash 101 stuff here. :P
[06:55] <Dr_willis> ok that may be bash 102
[06:55] <quintin> Rizla420: define "newer".  It's been much the same for years now
[06:55] <we2by> what tool can I use to convert pdf (with math symbols and images in it) to html with images??
[06:55] <kothz> export = bash 102 :) var = value => bash 101 :)
[06:55] <Dr_willis> Antioch,  note  the use of the backtick `   top left of the keyboard.
[06:55] <Antioch> Dr_willis yea, but I have no export commant on my system supposedly
[06:55] <Rizla420> well i've read in cdfreaks froums that the newer copy protection schemes were screwing up the older rippers
[06:55] <LjL> we2by: have you tried pdftohtml?
[06:55] <Antioch> ah
[06:55] <Antioch> Ill try that
[06:55] <Rizla420> something along those lines
[06:55] <Dr_willis> export is built into bash  as far as i know.
[06:56] <Antioch> its actually a solaris unix system
[06:56] <quintin> Rizla420: I don't know of any newer copy protection schemes.  Sounds like bullshit to me.  And forums are lame! :)
[06:56] <Dr_willis> it pays big dividends to find/.read a few bash guides
[06:56] <we2by> LjL, it doesn't work with math symbols :(
[06:56] <segfault_> Firestar, cat /proc/meminfo shows only 2.7gb ?
[06:56] <Antioch> but yea, using set and the backtick it worked - I was using a single quote for the longest time
[06:56] <Antioch> Thanks!!
[06:56] <Rizla420> not the ubuntu forums, they're lifesavers in there
[06:56] <Rizla420> but then again that was before i knew about this oasis in the backwaters of the internet
[06:56] <JosefK> Antioch: you're best double-quoting the variable, or if the output has spaces in it you won't get the whole string in the variable
[06:56] <quintin> Ok, I am getting about 80kB down with bittornado downloading fedora core 6.  but I still can't max my line, which utorrent easily does!!
[06:56] <JosefK> Antioch: ie, export MYVAR="`command`"
[06:57] <ali_123> how to install proprietary codecs
[06:57] <we2by> darn, OO takes minutes to load
[06:57] <ali_123> how to install proprietary codecs?
[06:57] <quintin> ali_123: search google for win32 codec ubuntu
[06:57] <jimmy_neutron> i want to be able to download from newsgroups from my linux box and share the files d/l to my windows pcs. the drive i want to store the d/l files are on a usb externel hd. what us the most efficient way to do this?
[06:57] <Firestar> segfault_:
[06:57] <Firestar> MemTotal:      2832748 kB
[06:57] <Firestar> MemFree:       1880024 kB
[06:57] <LjL> JosefK, it works fine without the quotes here though
[06:57] <JosefK> !mp3 > ali_123
[06:57] <quintin> jimmy_neutron: samba
[06:57] <segfault_> Firestar, what kernel?
[06:57] <TheGateKeeper> Rizla420: if you are trying to kill copy protection use windows & AnyDVD, otherwise linux will be fine
[06:57] <quintin> jimmy_neutron: for a small fee, I will even configure it :">
[06:58] <Firestar> segfault_ : Linux prophecy 2.6.15-27-amd64-server #1 SMP Sat Sep 16 02:04:37 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[06:58] <Antioch> Dr_willis is there a way to use regular expressions or something to filter out part of the output from uname?
[06:58] <jimmy_neutron> thx quintin thats all i needed to know :)
[06:58] <LjL> Antioch: sure... what is it that you want?
[06:58] <Dr_willis> Antioch,  theres always a way
[06:58] <quintin> TheGateKeeper: Heresy!!!
[06:58] <Antioch> heh
[06:58] <Rizla420> hmm.. i'll look into it.  there arent any linux burning apps that support lightscribe yet right?
[06:58] <Dr_willis> Bash 101 stuff again. :P ok.. 102.
[06:58] <Antioch> well my server names are always NAME.domain, and I just want to keep the NAME component
[06:58] <Antioch> then plug that into export
[06:59] <Dr_willis> why not use the hostname command?
[06:59] <siXy> antioch - yes. | grep will do simple stuff
[06:59] <soheil> what do u call '< > | 'symbols in ubuntu?
[06:59] <Antioch> is there such a command?
[06:59] <siXy> for more advanced stuff google awk
[06:59] <Dr_willis> No idea.. on YOUR system...
[06:59] <TheGateKeeper> quintin: I know :-), tell me a linux equivalent of AnyDVD?
[06:59] <eurytus> DNS resolution seems to take about 3 seconds longer in Ubuntu (than debian or winxp), is there some optimization I've overlooked?
[06:59] <Dr_willis> look and see
[06:59] <Antioch> yes, there is
[06:59] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:59] <LjL> Antioch: uh, does uname print the nameservers?
[06:59] <LjL> Antioch: i mean the server names
[06:59] <soheil> what do u call '< > | 'symbols in ubuntu?
[06:59] <Antioch> uname print a.b.c.d and I just want a
[06:59] <segfault_> Firestar, hmm, im nnot sure, i would ask someone well versed in amd64
[07:00] <soheil> that redirect output
[07:00] <LjL> Antioch: is that the second field in "uname -a" that you mean?
[07:00] <siXy> soheil dont keep asking the same question
[07:00] <eurytus> | is the pipe, < > are input/output redirections
[07:00] <quintin> TheGateKeeper: AnyDVD is linux?  shrug.  I am just all about the DVDShrink, myself
[07:00] <Firestar> segfault_: do you know anyone that can help? I'm really struggling and I'm VERY despirate now :(
[07:00] <Antioch> no its uname -n that Im working with
[07:00] <soheil> r u gonna answer me?
[07:00] <LjL> Antioch: ok then try    uname -n | cut -d "." -f1
[07:00] <segfault_> Firestar, sry no, but i think there is an amd64 channel for ubuntu i would try there next
[07:01] <CokeNCode> jeeze why does this stupid computer keep rebooting
[07:01] <CokeNCode> bbl
[07:01] <CokeNCode> what causes a computer to reboot guys ?
[07:01] <kothz> Do you keep typing 'reboot'? :)
[07:01] <siXy> soheil - 1). someone already has 2). if you want help for free learn to be more polite
[07:01] <quintin> CokeNCode: DFU?
[07:01] <LjL> soheil: i call < an input redirect, > an output redirect and | a pipe
[07:01] <frank95com> hello
[07:01] <psynaps3> hi, i have a problem with a usb drive. I had some contents in this drive (FAT). Now after i mounted it in ubuntu and copied the contents over, it has stopped working in XP. Says, the usb stick is not formatted?
[07:01] <POVaddct> CokeNCode: bad ram?
[07:01] <Firestar> segfault_: thanks for your help! I really appreciate the time taken to look at my problem :)
[07:01] <CokeNCode> kothz lol, no ... it's a pc that someone here is using at work ... i'm the it guy
[07:01] <segfault_> Firestar, np
[07:01] <CokeNCode> ah well ... bbl
[07:01] <quintin> jimmy_neutron: Got samba setup yet?
[07:02] <Garsty> I have compiled "simple wx widgets application" in KDevelop, but when trying to run it, it says "segementation fault", exited with status 139
[07:02] <Antioch> LjL that worked, thanks! =)
[07:02] <soheil> and how to know wwhat the redirect symbols are in ubuntu?
[07:02] <Dr_willis> soheil,  you meanin the shell>
[07:02] <Garsty> does anyone have any idea what is that supposed to mean?
[07:02] <Dr_willis> soheil,  you mean in the shell?  the  > < and | symbols?
[07:02] <segfault_> soheil, plz read some bash documetation
[07:03] <probl> can someone help me with: laptop overheat in dapper ?!
[07:03] <Dr_willis> !bash
[07:03] <patrick_king> lamp
[07:03] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:03] <TheGateKeeper> quintin: off for food so back latter but tell where it says that it works on linux? http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvd.html
[07:03] <LjL> soheil, redirect symbols are "<", "<<", ">", ">>" and "|". unless you mean something else, but then please explain.
[07:03] <quintin> TheGateKeeper: I never said it did!
[07:03] <patrick_king> !lamp
[07:03] <soheil> how to read it?
[07:03] <ubotu> offically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)
[07:03] <JosefK> Garsty: it means you're using pointers improperly somewhere, time to learn to debug ;)
[07:03] <LjL> soheil: read it?
[07:03] <kothz> soheil: man bash
[07:03] <Antioch> Is there a command to tell you what shell you're running?
[07:03] <we2by> omg, Open office crashed!!
[07:04] <Garsty> JosefK, the program code was generated by KDevelop
[07:04] <kothz> antioch: echo $SHELL
[07:04] <POVaddct> Antioch: echo $SHELL
[07:04] <Garsty> I haven't changed it in any way
[07:04] <LjL> Antioch: try "help"
[07:04] <Antioch> thanks
[07:04] <quintin> we2by: omgz!1111
[07:04] <segfault_> Antioch, unless u changed it its prolly bash
[07:04] <Antioch> segfault_ yea
[07:05] <Antioch> do I change the defulat 7t5r5mmn
[07:05] <LjL> Antioch: well if it's bash, it's strange that you can't do "export"
[07:05] <Antioch> do I change the default by putting in a new .whatever-rc file?
[07:05] <Dr_willis> default what?
[07:05] <LjL> Antioch: hm no, i think to change your (user) default you should edit /etc/passwd...
[07:05] <Garsty> what are good IDEs, except KDevelop, for C++? I'm interested in OpenGL, SDL and wxWidgets development. It would be nice if the IDE would have a similar feature as IntelliSense in Visual Studio.
[07:05] <shylock> Hi do anyone know if there is some easy way to show movies on my tv from tv-out on my ati card without having to mess around with Xorg.conf?
[07:05] <Antioch> Im sorry, the default shell used on log-in
[07:06] <segfault_> Antioch, no use useradd
[07:06] <daurn> how can i totally reset sound config?
[07:06] <patrick_king> !python
[07:06] <Dr_willis> shylock,  not that i know of.
[07:06] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 125 kB, installed size 532 kB
[07:06] <POVaddct> LjL: no, chsh is the command to change to shell
[07:06] <segfault_> shylock, i doubt such a way exists
[07:06] <lara_> ola
[07:07] <Antioch> my holy handgrenade that is
[07:07] <LjL> POVaddct, Antioch: ok. or just link /bin/sh to something else i suppose, if you want to change for all users (who have /bin/sh as their shell)...?
[07:07] <jvai> hey what ver of openvpn is in the dapper repos? i dont know cause i'm on hoary
[07:07] <crimsun> daurn: unload the driver(s), rm -f ~/.asoundrc* /etc/asound.conf /var/lib/alsa/asound.state, sync, and forcibly reboot (don't shutdown)
[07:07] <LjL> !info openvpn dapper
[07:07] <ubotu> openvpn: Virtual Private Network daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.6-1 (dapper), package size 310 kB, installed size 940 kB
[07:08] <Antioch> no, my default seems to be set as tcsh which is what I want, I was just wondering if I could change the default without making a new useraccount
[07:08] <POVaddct> LjL: linking /bin/sh to a different shell is a bad idea. many scripts rely on /bin/sh behaving like a bourne shell
[07:08] <Antioch> I agree
[07:08] <ladydoor> Antioch: yes
[07:08] <shylock> i have tried using aticonfig --force-monitor=tv and it shows a picture on the tv but i dont know how to make it the right resolution
[07:08] <daurn> crimsun: then, when i reboot, i'll have defulat config?
[07:08] <jvai> oo ok ty ubotu.. lol
[07:08] <crimsun> daurn: yes
[07:08] <shylock> also i would like to have the same pic on monitor and tv
[07:08] <daurn> how do i unload the drivers?
[07:08] <ladydoor> Antioch: sudo usermod -s tcsh (or whatever)
[07:08] <Dr_willis> shylock,  you mean 'clone' the displays
[07:08] <Antioch> I have my .tcshrc set to change my prompt variable, but my prompt isn't changing when I log-in.. Is there a way to check that the rc is actually being run when I log in?
[07:09] <ladydoor> Antioch: sudo usermod -s tcsh (or whatever) username, i mean
[07:09] <josh__> how do i install themes on kde?
[07:09] <shylock> Dr_willis:  yeahh!
[07:09] <ladydoor> josh__: #kubuntu, or kubuntu's help function...
[07:09] <totall_6_7> well i did it!!! i formated ntfs to ext3, and mounted it!!!!
[07:09] <Dr_willis> josh__,  depends on the specific theme file. thers not a single 'theme' file - they are made of 3 parts (normally)
[07:09] <josh__> thanks lady and willis
[07:09] <Dr_willis> josh__,  download the theme files. open theme manager, drag/drop onto it. is 1 way
[07:09] <JosefK> Antioch: sticking a line somewhere like 'echo hit > ~/ran.txt' usually works
[07:10] <JosefK> Antioch: if a file called 'ran.txt' appears, the config ran.
[07:10] <Antioch> Thanks
[07:11] <Maxim> Hi, i need help in fstab everything is mounted but as user i can't delete stuff on hdb1 what i have to do ??
[07:11] <siXy> does apt-get have a search function?
[07:11] <frank95com> yes
[07:11] <LjL> siXy: no, but apt-cache does
[07:11] <LjL> siXy: "apt-cache search blah"
[07:11] <Dr_willis> Maxim,  and hdb1 is what kind of drive/partition?
[07:11] <siXy> ah cheers. thats why man apt-get failed me then :)
[07:11] <Maxim> Dr_willis:  and old vfat
[07:11] <Dr_willis> !apt
[07:11] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:12] <frank95com> it's the primary slave partion 1
[07:12] <Dr_willis> Maxim,  you have to use the correct umask options.
[07:12] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[07:12] <Dr_willis> Maxim,  that url gives examples.
[07:12] <siXy> cheers - i havent used apt since rh switched to yum :/
[07:12] <frank95com> install fuse for ntfs mounting
[07:12] <Maxim> gonna see
[07:12] <Maxim> apt-get install fuse ?
[07:13] <Dr_willis> frank95com,  thats a little over kill. :P for vfat
[07:13] <LjL> siXy: don't think rh used apt even in the past, though...
[07:13] <Dr_willis> fuse is handy at times
[07:13] <Dr_willis> but not needed in this case
[07:13] <quintin> jimmy_neutron: got it yet? :)
[07:13] <stefzechef> When I unmount a CD, eject it and later reinsert it, the CD does not get mounted automatically. Nothing appears in /var/log/messages, what could be the problem?
[07:13] <shwag> does EasyUbuntu break apt-get ?
[07:14] <M_A_K> I need help with making a backup of my home directory.  I have plenty of space on an external HD so i dont need compression.  Tar doesnt work because external is fat32 and tarball will be larger than 4Gb.  I tried to use tar + split, but I got other errors.  I am trying to do a GUI drag and drop but I get errors and I have to hit skip.  Is there a command I can use at command line that will duplicate my user dir on my external HD the while preserving pe
[07:14] <quintin> stefzechef: weird.  Why unmount it?  Just eject
[07:14] <Bardamu> hello someone have skype pleas ?
[07:14] <stefzechef> eject or unmount yield the same result
[07:14] <quintin> M_A_K: man cp ; man rsync
[07:14] <frank95com> yes, i have skype
[07:14] <Dr_willis> mount the thing manyally stefzechef ?
[07:15] <stefzechef> ok will try now
[07:15] <Bardamu> frank95com,  i want to try skype
[07:15] <quintin> Bardamu: ehm... I have skype.  what's the issue.
[07:15] <ladydoor> M_A_K: what if you tar'd it a dir at a time?
[07:15] <Bardamu> and i have not contact lol
[07:15] <M_A_K> quintin : isnt cp same as gui drag n drop?
[07:15] <ibeaspecialboy> i have a problem with ubuntu install, can anyone help me?
[07:15] <lampshade> Hey Ubuntu what's shaken
[07:15] <ladydoor> M_A_K: only better
[07:15] <M_A_K> ladydoor : dont want to sit and figure out which dirs will fit into a file
[07:15] <quintin> M_A_K: I look like some kind of frikkin' guru or something?  I don't know.   Just try it!
[07:16] <Bardamu> pleas anyone can pass me his adress
[07:16] <quintin> M_A_K: There's no reason it should not work
[07:16] <Bardamu> i want to try my skype
[07:16] <totall_6_7> ibeaspecialboy: your best bet would be to ask the problem and then wait for an answer
[07:16] <lampshade> Bardamu: there is a skype test number
[07:16] <ladydoor> M_A_K: well, why are you trying to tar it?
[07:16] <Dr_willis> Bardamu,  call your home phone.. :P
[07:16] <quintin> Bardamu: My skype ID is qmriis.  You can also call echo123
[07:16] <Bardamu> thanks
[07:16] <M_A_K> I jsut want to copy everything.  I am not currently trying to tar it.
[07:17] <lampshade> yeah, echo123 was what I was thinking of
[07:17] <anemone> !
[07:17] <LjL> M_A_K: well, i think you probably *should* tar it (or something similar), to preserve permissions and all -- and filenames, possibly, since you're using FAT...
[07:17] <ladydoor> M_A_K: ok, yeah, then just copy it. cp ~ /path/to/mountpoint/of/external/hd
[07:17] <Bardamu> quintin,  can you listen me ?
[07:17] <ladydoor> M_A_K: wait
[07:17] <quintin> Bardamu: I don't hear anything.  can you hear me?
[07:17] <Bardamu> yes
[07:17] <ladydoor> M_A_K: actually, make that cp -a to preserve permissions, links, etc.
[07:17] <stefzechef> When i run 'sudo mount /dev/cdrom' the CD gets mounted correctly. So my problem is just that the CD does not get mounted automatically
[07:17] <Bardamu> i think i have a problem
[07:17] <quintin> Bardamu: are you talking?  speak up kid!
[07:18] <lampshade> you could try this easily by using echo123  it plays what you say back lol
[07:18] <frank95com> is your soud card configured correctly?
[07:18] <quintin> Bardamu: Check your sound input settings.
[07:18] <Bardamu> quintin,  headset ?
[07:18] <LjL> M_A_K: what about "apt-cache show gfslicer"
[07:18] <Bardamu> quintin,  how can i check that lol
[07:18] <quintin> Bardamu: No, you have to listen to the thunderous roar that is the laptop keyboard being pounded above the laptop microphone.
[07:18] <LjL> ladydoor: well except that with FAT32, it won't necessarily preserve much
[07:18] <quintin> Bardamu: Look at your skype input settings...
[07:18] <kothz> heck, fat32 will barely preserve the file :)
[07:18] <jvai> any1 using Glabels.. is it bettr than MS publisher in any respects?
[07:19] <quintin> kothz: *g*
[07:19] <ladydoor> LjL: aha. well, this person doesn't want to tar individual dirs and can't tar the whole thing because of the whole FAT issue...
[07:19] <LjL> ladydoor: yep, but splitting the tar somehow should work. "gfslicer" sounds like it'd be nice for that, it compresses too
[07:19] <Bardamu> quiet,  where ?
[07:19] <Bardamu> quintin,  sorry
[07:19] <we2by> omg, I need to install kde libs :(
[07:20] <Bardamu> i am new in use to skype
[07:20] <natalia> hola
[07:20] <ladydoor> LjL: cool. good luck! with that...i've gtg again
[07:20] <siXy> is there a repo i need to enable in order to install module-assistant? if so which one?
[07:20] <quintin> Bardamu: Tools > Options
[07:20] <ladydoor> !module-assistant
[07:20] <Bardamu> yes but where ?
[07:20] <ubotu> module-assistant: tool to make module package creation easier. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.2 (dapper), package size 72 kB, installed size 368 kB
[07:20] <Bardamu> i am in tools options
[07:20] <ladydoor> siXy: universe
[07:20] <Bardamu> what i change  ?
[07:20] <jvai> any1 using Glabels, for printing bussiness cards?.. is it bettr than MS publisher in any respects?
[07:20] <ladydoor> !repeate
[07:20] <Bardamu> yesterday my contacts heard me
[07:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repeate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:20] <Bardamu> but today i have a probleme
[07:20] <siXy> thanks
[07:20] <ladydoor> jvai: also, please use whole words.
[07:20] <Bardamu> i don't understand
[07:20] <Dr_willis> jvai,  its free? :)
[07:21] <frank95com> everything it's better than M$
[07:21] <stefzechef> Why won't ubuntu mount inserted CDs automatically, this used to work in 5.04, now it doesn't anymore in 6.06. Any idea?
[07:21] <jvai> lol.. but what else, like functionility etc...
[07:21] <quintin> frank95com: learn to spell assface
[07:21] <LjL> !ops
[07:21] <piratepenguin> is there a beta of edgy coming soon?
[07:21] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[07:21] <LjL> !language
[07:21] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:21] <quintin> jvai: I made my business cards with gimp
[07:21] <Dr_willis> !edgy
[07:21] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:21] <jvai> oo
[07:21] <frank95com> i'm not english
[07:22] <ibeaspecialboy> ok.. well i shrunk my hard drive and left 20 gigs of unformated space, then started the ubuntu live/install cd, and had it install on the unformated space. however when it was making the ext3 partition it froze at 13%, so i figured it was just a bug so i tried again and got the same result. so then i figured it was the cd so i did a check and it said it was fine.... any ideas? (i also tried to install fedora core 5 but that also f
[07:22] <ibeaspecialboy> roze on format)
[07:22] <oskude> what would be the "best/easiest" way to make kde apps look like "gnome/human theme" ?
[07:22] <piratepenguin> thanks Dr_willis
[07:22] <Seveas> oskude, using the gtk-qt-engine
[07:22] <Dr_willis> ibeaspecialboy,  that sounds like a messed up hard drive
[07:22] <oskude> Seveas, just apt-get that ?
[07:22] <ibeaspecialboy> :\
[07:22] <Seveas> oskude, first find the correct name, but yeah
[07:22] <ibeaspecialboy> the computer is only a month old
[07:22] <heXLer> Hi, my root certificates in Firefox are missing and now ff asks at every site if I want to accept a certificate because it can't check it. I already tried to reinstall ff but the missing certificates weren't fixed .. any solutions? :|
[07:23] <oskude> Seveas, roger, thanks!
[07:23] <Seveas> heXLer, try with a clean profile
[07:23] <patrick_king> !ftp
[07:23] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[07:23] <heXLer> Seveas: they are missing in a new profile too
[07:23] <patrick_king> !ftpserver
[07:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ftpserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:23] <Seveas> heXLer, now that is odd
[07:23] <Dr_willis> ibeaspecialboy,  and that fact proves that the hd may not be bad>?
[07:23] <patrick_king> !proftpd
[07:23] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.10-27ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 351 kB, installed size 1052 kB
[07:24] <Seveas> are you sure you have an ubuntu firefox build?
[07:24] <Dr_willis> ibeaspecialboy,  try formating that  partition under windows.
[07:24] <edmundo_v> does anyone know how do I change the locale in the console? only by hand?
[07:24] <ibeaspecialboy> ok
[07:24] <edmundo_v> dpkg-reconfigure locales doesnt work anymor3e
[07:24] <Dr_willis> export locale='C'
[07:24] <heXLer> Seveas: I've get it with apt-get  the problems started with the last update
[07:24] <Dr_willis> aintit..
[07:24] <keleus> quit
[07:24] <keleus> whoops
[07:24] <keleus> sticky slash key
[07:25] <heXLer> Seveas: and in windows the certificates are working with the same profile  (profile is on a fat32 partition and used by both OS)
[07:25] <Seveas> heXLer, try pruning firefox: dpkg -P --force-depends firefox
[07:26] <Seveas> then apt-get install firefox
[07:26] <heXLer> Seveas: will try it ...
[07:27] <kothz> anyone know if someone has put together a best practices document that deals with ubuntu + fetchmail + some mta (exim?) + some imapd (cyrus?).  i mean i could hit it with the sysadmin bat, but is there an ubuntu 'standard' that I'm completely ignoring :)
[07:27] <farchord> wow compiling rocks with this new CPU of mine :D
[07:27] <patrick_king> does any one know how to install python curses and urwid
[07:28] <farchord> patrick: My guess, sudo apt-get install python or something?
[07:28] <josh__> farchord: nice ;)
[07:28] <ibeaspecialboy> ok, I created the swap and ext3 partition in partition magic and it formated perfectly fine
[07:28] <farchord> josh__: AMD Athlon 64 3800 X2 :D
[07:28] <josh__> farchord: woah :D
[07:28] <farchord> 1gb of ram
[07:28] <josh__> though i stay away from AMD's
[07:28] <farchord> almost laughable tho, considering how much ram ubuntu uses <.<
[07:29] <farchord> Your choice / loss ^
[07:29] <heXLer> Seveas: the certificates weren't installed :|   is it normal that firefox is connected with gnome-app-install Oo
[07:29] <Seveas> yes
[07:29] <josh__> When i upgrade im getting a intel conroe
[07:29] <frank95com> fantastic
[07:30] <M_A_K> LjL : I tried a similar option using split with tar
[07:30] <frank95com> conroe's power :D
[07:30] <M_A_K> Should I try doing the cp using sudo just in case or will that really mess things up?
[07:30] <josh__> conroe beats amd  :P
[07:30] <LjL> M_A_K: you said that -- i'm not sure i've understood why that didn't work. but anyway, gfslicer should be somewhat more flexible...
[07:30] <farchord> frank: yeah but I didn't have 150$ more to put on the mobo/CPU <.<
[07:31] <josh__> yeah, because AMD's are going down, down down in price
[07:31] <heXLer> Seveas: I've tried it with a new profile  but the root certificates are empty there too
[07:31] <frank95com> this is true
[07:31] <M_A_K> The process failed due to errors (in tar or reading files i think).
[07:31] <LjL> M_A_K: i don't know, it shouldn't really "mess up" too much, but i wouldn't trust backing up a unix filesystem on fat32 raw. i'd expect nasty surprises when i try to restore it....
[07:32] <eurytus> I can't set my refresh rate to above 60Hz (with the Screen Resolution configurator) and my monitor definitely supports 75Hz. How do I force 75Hz refresh?
[07:32] <josh__> eurytus: Installed drivers?
[07:32] <eurytus> why would I need to do that?
[07:32] <eurytus> I didn't for debian
[07:32] <frank95com> eurytus: i have the same problem
[07:33] <eurytus> I'm sure I could fix it by mucking around with xorg if I knew what I was doing there
[07:33] <josh__> This is ubuntu, not debian last time i checked, even though debian is ubuntu based.
[07:33] <eurytus> They should have similar capabilities at least though, right?
[07:33] <josh__> i mean ubuntu debian based lol
[07:33] <kothz> (ubuntu is debian based, rather)
[07:33] <kothz> :)
[07:33] <M_A_K> LjL : what if I tried to sudo tar cfz - /home/me | split -d 4000m file.to.tar.gz-
[07:33] <oskude> Seveas, hmm, i can only find "gtk2-engines-gtk-qt - theme engine using Qt for GTK+ 2.x" but i actually wanted "gtk look for qt", but cant find anything with apt-cache search...
[07:33] <josh__> its 1:33am, im sure to make a typo lol
[07:33] <farchord> hmmm im trying to now find on how to access my NTFS drive from ubuntu <.<
[07:34] <josh__> farchord: www.ubuntuguide.com has it ;)
[07:34] <Seveas> oskude, ah ok, then I misunderstood you -- unfortunately there is no such thing yet
[07:34] <oskude> Seveas, roger
[07:34] <farchord> josh__: Cool thanks
[07:34] <LjL> M_A_K: hm, perhaps it's just that split doesn't like pipes
[07:34] <eurytus> ubuntuguide.com is a redirect
[07:34] <josh__> yeah, but its faster then typing in the whole thing isnt it :P
[07:34] <LjL> M_A_K: it might want to know the filesize in advance, or something
[07:34] <eurytus> No, I mean, it's an ad portal
[07:34] <farchord> josh__: Gah, got one of those crappy pub search engines m8
[07:34] <farchord> wrong URL
[07:34] <M_A_K> LjL: it was working fine for a while then an error caused it to fail in the 3rd split file.
[07:34] <frank95com> On ubuntu 6.06 i've find a native support for NTFS drives and I difn't need to install nothing :confused:
[07:35] <eurytus> yeah what farchord said
[07:35] <stefg> !fuse
[07:35] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:35] <kamui> eurytus: yo gotta recnofigure X, you haven't set your monitor capabilities correctly.  Try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[07:35] <WInter-Soulstice> Man, I just installed the edgy knot 3...I got problems
[07:35] <M_A_K> I just want to backup my home dir (reliably) to my external HD (FAT32 - I use it at home on windows also).
[07:35] <farchord> oh oh I dont wanna write on NTFS
[07:35] <farchord> I only wanna read
[07:35] <luckyone_> hello everyone
[07:35] <eurytus> thanks kamui
[07:35] <josh__> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[07:35] <stefg> !edgy
[07:35] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:35] <kamui> eurytus: err, xserver-xorg
[07:35] <eurytus> that's what I was forgetting
[07:35] <LjL> M_A_K: isn't it tar perhaps that's failing, and not split? maybe you have files that are only accessible to root, and tar doesn't like that?
[07:36] <M_A_K> That could be.
[07:36] <Lehti> i have a little problem: MPC doesn't detect my music collection. anybody know what to do? :(
[07:36] <josh__> read only: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only
[07:36] <kamui> eurytus: worst case scenario, you may have to hand edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:36] <Tonren> OK guys, hit me with a program for ripping CDs into MP3s instead of OGG, and a program for converting between OGG and MP3
[07:36] <luckyone_> I am trying to setup a media server and I want to create user acocunts so people can access it with read only access
[07:36] <frank95com> eurytus: remember to do a backup of xorg.conf before changing
[07:36] <M_A_K> so maybe I should retry the tar + split as sudo?
[07:36] <Tonren> Lehti: You are running MPD first, right?
[07:36] <luckyone_> can anyone help?
[07:36] <LjL> M_A_K: well i'd give the tar / split thing another try with sudo
[07:36] <stefg> !info grip
[07:36] <ubotu> grip: GNOME-based CD-player/ripper/encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.1-4 (dapper), package size 440 kB, installed size 1268 kB
[07:36] <kothz> MAK: Try making a smaller file size -- 2GB ... fat32 has a 4G - 2B max
[07:36] <Tonren> stefg: Thanks!
[07:37] <scheuri> hi all
[07:37] <kamui> josh__: while you're correct that ubuntu is not debian, other than the repositories and a few simple symantics, the two systems are almost exactly the same.
[07:37] <eurytus> I set the horizontal refresh to 24-75, as that's the viable range for my monitor. The listbox in the resolution configuration dealie still only has 60hz :(
[07:37] <M_A_K> If I run tar as sudo, how do I preserve the ownership etc of the current ...
[07:38] <eurytus> err vertical refresh
[07:38] <stefg> !fixres
[07:38] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:38] <eurytus> thanks
[07:38] <scheuri> M_A_K: tar has a parameter/option...I guess its p for preserve...but check the man
[07:38] <eurytus> the ? is usually a "g" right?
[07:38] <Bardamu> quintin_,  do you hear me ?
[07:39] <M_A_K> Thanks, it looks like p will do the trick
[07:39] <kamui> eurytus: you did remember to restart X, right?  and make sure you correctly set both the verticle and horizontal refresh rates.  You could also always try the Xorg autoconfigure sudo X -configure;
[07:39] <scheuri> M_A_K: it should...:)
[07:39] <M_A_K> scheuri : yea...*should*
[07:39] <scheuri> M_A_K: I used it like 2 month ago...its a long time...;)
[07:39] <farchord> Aiite guys, Roll the drums! There's only one thing to make work in here, and ill be ready for some major fun with ubuntu!
[07:40] <farchord> But unfortunately, it's a major PITA (Pain in the ass)
[07:40] <totall_6_7> wow Seveas you must really not want people from that domain to join
[07:40] <farchord> Here comes: ATi TV Wonder Elite (PCI TV tuner)
[07:40] <farchord> I heard that card is a bitch in Linux
[07:41] <stefg> farchord: check the output of dmesg first if the hardware is already setup
[07:41] <M_A_K> So, as I understand linux (as best as I can) "Removing leading /" means that when I extract the archive, it will extract relative to current location rather than from / of the filesystem?
[07:41] <tomveens> hey
[07:41] <stefg> M_A_K: right
[07:41] <scheuri> M_A_K: that is affirmativ
[07:41] <tomveens> my gnome-panel is gone
[07:42] <M_A_K> Great, I understand "something". :)
[07:42] <eurytus> X -configure conf fails due to failure to open device "Mouse0" :(
[07:42] <M_A_K> Here goes...
[07:42] <scheuri> M_A_K: think of leaving away the c: or d: when in a directory (which will make it using the directory you are currently in
[07:42] <sque> Hi! I cannot change screen resolution. What maybe wrong?
[07:42] <Tonren> stefg: Whoa, GRIP kind of sucks!  Is there a chatroom where the devs hang out?  Do they mind people submitting patches?
[07:42] <stefg> scheuri: what's c: or d. ? :-D
[07:43] <arcade> what do I need to install to rebuild the kernel? (kubuntu 6.06)
[07:43] <eurytus> that is, the configuration generated by it does not work: sudo X -config /tmp/xorg.conf.new fails to load with error "Fatal server error: failed to initialize core devices"
[07:43] <arcade> I've installed build-essentials
[07:43] <stefg> !kernel
[07:43] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:43] <oskude> is someone allready doing this theme ? https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/human-theme-for-qt-and-kde... i would want to start/help :)
[07:43] <scheuri> stefg: dont actually know...just heard rumors it is used for paths...;)
[07:44] <arcade> stefg: Not sure whether I can check that out yet. :)  Trying, but I\m in a very limited environment
[07:44] <Tonren> stefg: Jesus christ!!! GRIP is freaking spinning my CD-ROM like a jet engine!!! Dude.  You should NOT be suggesting this program to people!
[07:44] <arcade> stefg: One of my problems is finding the proper slash, as I don't even have my native keyboard setting :D
[07:44] <patrick_king> !mp3
[07:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:44] <Laney> np: Marion Raven - For You I'll Die
[07:45] <stefg> arcade: are you sure you're talking to me?
[07:45] <arcade> stefg: you were the one typing !kernel to my question.
[07:45] <stefg> Ah, i see
[07:45] <Seveas> totall_6_7, indeed. We don't like trolls who use foul language and call the ops idiots
[07:45] <stefg> Tonren: check man cdparanoia
[07:45] <patrick_king> how do i install Gproftpd
[07:45] <aschimedes> hi guys
[07:46] <stefg> !info cdparanoia
[07:46] <ubotu> cdparanoia: An audio extraction tool for sampling CDs.. In component main, is optional. Version 3a9.8-11 (dapper), package size 19 kB, installed size 72 kB
[07:46] <brkamikaze> hey
[07:46] <Tonren> stefg: Don't you have to manually convert from WAV to MP3 with cdparanoia?
[07:46] <brkamikaze> apt is just updating my system to dapper...
[07:46] <arcade> My problem is quite simply that I need to recompile the kernel to detect the SATA controller where my boot-disk is attached :D
[07:46] <aschimedes> do you know a programm to write guitar tabs
[07:46] <brkamikaze> I'd like to know how to change the system's default encoding
[07:46] <brkamikaze> from UTF-8 to ISO-8859-1
[07:46] <aschimedes> but it should be able to show me guitar tabs AND standart notation...
[07:46] <arcade> For some reason, Ubuntu decided to load the disk-driver as a MODULE, instead of in the main kernel ..
[07:46] <brkamikaze> I'm getting real ugly charachters when reading NTFS ;/
[07:47] <stefg> Tonren: grip uses cdparanoia, i assume that's what make your CD spin in circles
[07:47] <arcade> .. and that doesn't work out very well .. when the controller is .. heh .. a module .:D
[07:47] <Tonren> stefg: Turns out SoundJuicer can do MP3s.
[07:47] <arcade> ubuntu manages to install, but not boot. :)
[07:48] <brkamikaze> arcade, :P
[07:48] <brkamikaze> what controller are you using?
[07:48] <stefg> Tonren: that's true, you have to teach it to soundjuicer, and install the approprate gstreamer-plugins... But I've used grip for ages, so i don't bother about soundjuicer
[07:48] <arcade> brkamikaze: moment
[07:48] <erUSUL> !kernel > arcade
[07:49] <Tonren> stefg: Fair enough.  Grip made an overwhelmingly negative first impression on me, in only 5 minutes of use
[07:49] <arcade> 0000:00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller (rev 80)
[07:49] <arcade> brkamikaze: that one.
[07:49] <brkamikaze> hmm
[07:49] <luke-jr_work> Why does Ubuntu only have a very old version of Armagetron? :\
[07:50] <brkamikaze> Luke, it's all Debian's fault :)
[07:50] <brkamikaze> try armagetron-ng
[07:50] <luke-jr_work> brkamikaze: aww
[07:50] <luke-jr_work> wtf is that?
[07:50] <brkamikaze> ops
[07:50] <brkamikaze> -ad
[07:50] <brkamikaze> armaggetronad
[07:50] <luke-jr_work> yes, that's what's old
[07:50] <arcade> brkamikaze: Any ideas?  Except to recompile?
[07:50] <brkamikaze> arcade, check the bot's pvt erUSUL asked to be sent to you
[07:51] <luke-jr_work> it wants to install 0.2.7
[07:51] <luke-jr_work> ancient
[07:51] <stefg> arcade: you'd need the linux-source and several dev-packages. kernel-compile out of a limited environmanet isn't a very good idea
[07:51] <ThomPhoenix> Hey, any ETA on the Edgy Beta?
[07:51] <luke-jr_work> should have 0.3.0 or at least 0.2.8
[07:51] <erUSUL> !schedule
[07:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:51] <arcade> stefg: I think I can manage. :)
[07:51] <ThomPhoenix> ubotu is a bot?
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:51] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, ;/
[07:51] <ThomPhoenix> he is :P
[07:51] <scheuri> ThomPhoenix: when its finished? ;)...somewhen october
[07:52] <arcade> stefg: I'm a very experienced unix admin as profession, but not always certain about the specific distributions and 'the right way' to do stuff :)
[07:52] <ThomPhoenix> yay :D
[07:52] <patrick_king> how do i update from 5.10 to 6.06
[07:52] <erUSUL> !upgrade
[07:52] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:52] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, apt is busy right now, when it's done I can verify that for you
[07:52] <stefg> arcade: Ah, ok... let me see if i can figure out the right apt-gets
[07:52] <Tomcat__> ThomPhoenix: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule?highlight=%28schedule%29%7C%28release%29
[07:52] <luke-jr_work> brkamikaze: shouldn't universe at least have the official Arma Ubuntu package?
[07:52] <arcade> stefg: I'm mostly through the KernelCustomBuild webpage now.
[07:52] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, that's community maintained
[07:53] <JamesG> Hi. I ran the software update tool this morning and it's hung while updateing the linux-image - Any suggestions? Should I just kill it and restart the process?
[07:53] <brkamikaze> and we need someone to maintain it :)
[07:53] <luke-jr_work> brkamikaze: isn't an official game package designed for Ubuntu considered part of the community?
[07:53] <scheuri> JamesG: aye, try that...
[07:53] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, actually, it probably was designed for Debian
[07:53] <luke-jr_work> brkamikaze: nope
[07:53] <patrick_king> !ssh
[07:53] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[07:53] <brkamikaze> and remember Ubuntu doesn't update the package versions between releases
[07:54] <erUSUL> JamesG: yes just kill the program and do 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'
[07:54] <brkamikaze> whatever version was released with 6.06 will not change unless REALLY necessary
[07:54] <brkamikaze> new versions only on edgy
[07:54] <luke-jr_work> hmm
[07:54] <luke-jr_work> yet another reason to stick to Gentoo for desktops I guess
[07:54] <luke-jr_work> =p
[07:54] <ThomPhoenix> !edgy
[07:54] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:55] <ThomPhoenix> !schedule
[07:55] <Seveas> !commonsense > luke-jr_work
[07:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:55] <arcade> stefg: I've got a problem after the "Modifying the sources to your needs" part.  How do I build the kernel just for "my" ARCH :)  I don't understand much of the fakeroot stuff, but am on a VIA C3
[07:55] <trianglemanwins> anyone ever attempted to install radeon drivers?
[07:55] <luke-jr_work> Seveas: latest version is always better with games anyhow
[07:55] <erUSUL> luke-jr_work: gentoo has the same police new packages only in the inestable version
[07:55] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, too bad gentoo is VERY slow to install and maintain
[07:56] <brkamikaze> erUSUL, but at least you can move to unstable and get updates all the time
[07:56] <stefg> arcade: sudo apt-get install linux-source kernel-package is the minimum, then you'd the ncurses-dev for being able to configure the kernel with the ncurses-interface
[07:56] <luke-jr_work> erUSUL: you can also mix stable and unstable
[07:56] <erUSUL> brkamikaze: you can upgrade toedgy nobody will stop you
[07:56] <Seveas> luke-jr_work, but with gentoo you only get unstable ;)
[07:57] <trianglemanwins> anyone ever attempted to install radeon drivers?
[07:57] <brkamikaze> Seveas, not really
[07:57] <brkamikaze> that's fedora :P
[07:57] <luke-jr_work> Seveas: the only thing "unstable" about my desktop is the radeon driver
[07:57] <arcade> stefg: For some reason the linux-source just dropped a tarball into /usr/src .. should I just tar xvjf it
[07:57] <scheuri> by the way...does anyone know of a repo with samba 3.0.23c?
[07:57] <arcade> ? :)
[07:57] <zaggynl> anyone knows a linux IM client which has supports audio conversations?
[07:57] <luke-jr_work> and I doubt Ubuntu would be any different in that area =p
[07:57] <brkamikaze> with gentoo, you only have to remove the "~" from "~x86" and you're on stable
[07:57] <erUSUL> trianglemanwins: radeon drivers comes with ubuntu
[07:57] <stefg> arcade: VIA C3 counts as 686, but i think there's a special config option for that as well
[07:57] <brkamikaze> arcade, I suppose
[07:57] <luke-jr_work> zaggynl: there's a developmental Psi with Jingle support
[07:58] <arcade> untaring. :)
[07:58] <scheuri> arcade: if you need kernel sources for an install...have you installed kernel headers?
[07:58] <zaggynl> luke-jr_work, cool thanks for the info
[07:58] <brkamikaze> I think something nice for ubuntu would be unstable repositories, where packages could be tested all the time
[07:58] <erUSUL> trianglemanwins: no need to install them just choose ati in the 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[07:58] <arcade> scheuri: Uhmm... the headers arent included in the source?!
[07:58] <brkamikaze> even after a stable release
[07:58] <stefg> arcade: http://ubuntustudio.com/wiki/index.php/Dapper:Vanilla_Kernel_With_Realtime_Preemption might help, you'll know where to follow, and where not
[07:58] <brkamikaze> it would be even easier to release a new version since the packages are being tested for a while
[07:58] <arcade> scheuri: I need the kernel sources, to rebuild a kernel .. i would hope the kernel headers are included in the kernel source...
[07:58] <scheuri> arcade: well, I am just asking since...if you need sources for an installation of another software the headers are mostly sufficent
[07:59] <scheuri> arcade: ah sorry....my bad...
[07:59] <erUSUL> brkamikaze: there are unstable repos )edgy repos)
[07:59] <luke-jr_work> brkamikaze: I'm working on an OS similar to Gentoo but with a p2p system to do distributed compiling to achieve binary-OS speed
[07:59] <brkamikaze> erUSUL, I mean ever-unstable repos
[07:59] <brkamikaze> and edgy package versions are already frozen ;/
[07:59] <luke-jr_work> erUSUL: you can't use packages from them in a stable OS
[07:59] <M_A_K> scheuri : so far so good.  I have 2 files so far 3.9G and a 2.8G and growing.
[07:59] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, :O
[07:59] <brkamikaze> nice
[07:59] <scheuri> M_A_K: wow...backuping?
[07:59] <arcade> scheuri: My boot-disk SATA controller is recognized by the installer, but not after reboot :)  It's compiled as a module(!)
[07:59] <arcade> :)
[07:59] <M_A_K> Yes.
[08:00] <scheuri> arcade: ouch...
[08:00] <stefg> arcade: then the module needs to go to the initramfs to be included in the initrd
[08:00] <arcade> scheuri: So, I've booted with a CD, mounted the boot-disk, chrooted into it, and currently I'm apt-getting into the chrooted environment. :)  AAAAAND, for the first time in my life, I've got a GUI when doing such hacks :)
[08:00] <brkamikaze> arcade, at least you will have something to do; that "just works" stuff ends up getting boring :P
[08:00] <erUSUL> arcade: the fact that is amodule has nothin to do with it failing that's why there is an initrd.img
[08:00] <luke-jr_work> brkamikaze: distributed package repository too are in the plans, such that you could add JoeBob's repository and it provides a "JoeBobPatch" USE-flag-equivalent for base packages ;)
[08:00] <narma> hello, which is the best burning program into ubuntu ?
[08:00] <scheuri> :)
[08:00] <luke-jr_work> narma: dd?
[08:01] <arcade> erUSUL: Okay?  Tell me more. :)
[08:01] <brkamikaze> narma, don't ask for "the best" since nobody agrees on "the best" :P
[08:01] <brkamikaze> and dd is indeed very good
[08:01] <brkamikaze> but I prefer k3b
[08:01] <stefg> !best
[08:01] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[08:01] <arcade> brkamikaze: Not while installing for my aunt, which I'm curerntly doing. :)
[08:01] <M_A_K> I second k3b
[08:01] <dehvokahn> i third k3b
[08:01] <Seveas> i hate k3b
[08:01] <brkamikaze> arcade, hmm
[08:01] <scheuri> lol
[08:01] <luke-jr_work> I fourth k3b
[08:01] <yemu> k3b or gnomebaker
[08:02] <erUSUL> arcade: just pointing out that if it fails to recognize your controler it is not becouse is a module.
[08:02] <kothz> bah k3b sucks. :)
[08:02] <narma> brkamikaze and luke-jr_work , ok thanks I'll take a look to dd
[08:02] <luke-jr_work> eww, gnome
[08:02] <Seveas> luke-jr_work, that would be k4b :
[08:02] <brkamikaze> Seveas, what do you use?
[08:02] <luke-jr_work> narma: man dd
[08:02] <brkamikaze> narma, it is not recommended to try it before k3b
[08:02] <brkamikaze> since it requires a bit of study
[08:02] <brkamikaze> and doesn't have a gui :P
[08:02] <Seveas> brkamikaze, rightclick on an iso, select "burn to cd"
[08:02] <luke-jr_work> it doesn't do filesystems either
[08:02] <arcade> erUSUL: Well, when booting from the CD it recognizes it.  When trying to boot with a rescue root=/dev/sda1, it doesn't manage to load the kernel module before spitting out that /dev/sda1 isn't valid.
[08:03] <arcade> erUSUL: GRUB loads up to stage 1.5, before halting, after the install
[08:03] <brkamikaze> Seveas, what do you do if you did not prepare an ISO before the burning?
[08:03] <Seveas> good question
[08:03] <erUSUL> arcade: then it is a grub problem, isn't it?
[08:03] <narma> brkamikaze, ok... very funny ;) so I know gnomebaker but is there another one ? (K3B is for KDE isn't it ?)
[08:03] <Seveas> wouldn't know, only things I burned recently were Ubuntu .iso files
[08:03] <Captain_Redbeard> Hmm.. I just got myself a AMD64 processor... the question now is that, if I install it, is there a way to do a "dist-upgrade" to get only packages compiled for the 64-bit?
[08:04] <farchord> k so anyone knows a driver for the TV wonder elite TV tuner? lol
[08:04] <brkamikaze> narma, K3B is for kde; you can try gcombust I think
[08:04] <farchord> ubuntu doesn't seem to have found it
[08:04] <arcade> erUSUL: Not when thinking about it _combined_ with the 'rescue root' error.
[08:04] <luke-jr_work> narma: KDE owns
[08:04] <erUSUL> brkamikaze: i us nautilus and it works quite well
[08:04] <brkamikaze> at least I've heard of some "gcombust" but never tried
[08:04] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, I do agree
[08:04] <arcade> erUSUL: But you're better at Ubuntu than me, so please correct me if I've assumed wrong.
[08:04] <brkamikaze> but I'm not KDE or GNOME zealot
[08:04] <brkamikaze> sometimes I use KDE, sometimes GNOME
[08:05] <brkamikaze> tough KDE's vfs infrastructure completely beats GNOME's
[08:05] <Captain_Redbeard> anyone?
[08:05] <Seveas> gnome vd kde discussions elsewhere please
[08:05] <Seveas> this channel is for support
[08:05] <brkamikaze> too bad nobody does themes like Clearlooks or Ubuntulooks for KDE ;/
[08:05] <Seveas> and busy enough without desktop wars
[08:05] <dehvokahn> is there a way to check if i'm running the most current NVIDIA drivers?
[08:05] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, open media:/cdrom on KDE] 
[08:05] <luke-jr_work> brkamikaze: Plastik is nice, but what does Kubuntu come with
[08:05] <luke-jr_work> ?
[08:05] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, lipstik
[08:05] <Seveas> dehvokahn, check on the website what the latest is and see if you're running that
[08:06] <erUSUL> arcade: i diidn't quite understood this " When trying to boot with a rescue root=/dev/sda1," how did you boot into rescue mode root=/dev/sda1
[08:06] <erUSUL> ??
[08:06] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, media:/cdrom presents you with the .wav files and folders with all encodings configured plus some other extras :)
[08:06] <JamesG> Hm
[08:06] <brkamikaze> and they're already renamed according to CDDB's info
[08:06] <JamesG> My update is still hanging.. while running update-initramfs
[08:06] <luke-jr_work> brkamikaze: indeed, but that should be done at a lower level
[08:06] <M_A_K> What is the advantage (if any) to installing kubuntu then synaptic'ing gnome vs other way around?
[08:06] <hardisk2002> Hi, where is the french canal please
[08:07] <josh_> french canal?
[08:07] <zaggynl> !french
[08:07] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:07] <dehvokahn> Seveas, but how do i check on my system what driver i am using?
[08:07] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, that's the lowest level "donable" for now ;/
[08:07] <hardisk2002> In god french :D thanks
[08:07] <zaggynl> np :)
[08:07] <brkamikaze> erUSUL, I love kioslaves
[08:07] <luke-jr_work> brkamikaze: not quite, FUSE has a nice KIO wrapper
[08:07] <Seveas> dehvokahn, did you manually install it or are you using ubuntu packages?
[08:07] <erUSUL> dehvokahn: how did you installed the driver?
[08:07] <luke-jr_work> it's a decent workaround
[08:08] <arcade> erUSUL: Well .. uhm .. by giving grub the command?
[08:08] <arcade> erUSUL: Or doesn't that work by default in ubuntu?
[08:08] <Captain_Redbeard> Hmm.. I just got myself a AMD64 processor... the question now is that, if I install it, is there a way to do a "dist-upgrade" to get only packages compiled for the 64-bit?
[08:08] <erUSUL> arcade: so you get to the grub console... why did you said that it hangs at 1.5 stage?
[08:08] <dehvokahn> Seveas, i've been following the guide on the unofficial ubuntu starter guide
[08:09] <we2by> what is the gnome pdf viewer called?
[08:09] <Seveas> Captain_Redbeard, to move from 32 to 64 bit, you have to reinstall
[08:09] <bretzel> !twin
[08:09] <ubotu> twin: a Text mode WINdow environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-1 (dapper), package size 424 kB, installed size 1452 kB
[08:09] <arcade> erUSUL: I get the grub console while booting from the CD, not when booting from the HDD.
[08:09] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, that's beyond my current knowledge :P
[08:09] <arcade> erUSUL: Which by the way is a very good point on your half
[08:09] <dehvokahn> i used sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[08:09] <farchord> haha.... copying file 667 of 36144 :D
[08:09] <arcade> erUSUL: Which means I don't even get the grub console ...
[08:09] <arcade> erUSUL: And thus it's a grub error, not a kernel error.
[08:09] <arcade> dang.
[08:09] <arcade> i'm barking up the wrong tree.
[08:10] <kothz> we2by: gpdf
[08:10] <brkamikaze> farchord, =p
[08:10] <Seveas> dehvokahn, ok, then look in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/ for the version
[08:10] <stefg> Captain_Redbeard: the 64-bit ubuntu is a PITA, just because a lot of softawre isn't available for 64-bit up to now... codecs and flash, for instance. So run 32bit and be happy
[08:10] <luke-jr_work> brkamikaze: basically, it lets you mount kioslaves
[08:10] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, too bad it requires mounting ;/
[08:10] <luke-jr_work> stefg: you mean Ubuntu doesn't have the software compiled for 64-bit.
[08:10] <brkamikaze> kioslaves let you do it without being root :)
[08:10] <luke-jr_work> stefg: virtually all software is available/functional in 64-bit
[08:10] <arcade> farchord: as I've already been called a cynic today, I walk towards it, lifts my hind leg, and pees.
[08:10] <dehvokahn> Seveas, excellent, thank you!
[08:11] <erUSUL> arcade: when you use the grub from the cd to boot your hd you have to pass the initrd parameter so thekernel can use the module to setup the disks i supose
[08:11] <Seveas> luke-jr_work, no, he means that adobe and microsoft suck and don't do 64bit properly yet
[08:11] <Seveas> and thus ubuntu suffers when it needs bits from them
[08:11] <LjL> !language
[08:11] <farchord> arcade: hahahaha
[08:11] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:11] <arcade> farchord: You got the joke?  I'm impressed.
[08:11] <farchord> I have to admit, ubuntu is cool.... now if only I could make my TV tuner under it
[08:11] <luke-jr_work> Seveas: Nobody needs anything from Adobe or MS
[08:11] <Llewxam> um can anyone tell me how to install missing screensavers?
[08:11] <farchord> *work under it
[08:11] <Seveas> luke-jr_work, people want flash and windows media codecs
[08:12] <arcade> erUSUL: That's a very good point
[08:12] <Seveas> LjL, chicken!
[08:12] <luke-jr_work> want != need
[08:12] <Seveas> luke-jr_work, ack
[08:12] <luke-jr_work> Flash and WM codecs must die
[08:12] <brkamikaze> :O
[08:12] <Seveas> luke-jr_work, ack again
[08:12] <LjL> Seveas, :-P
[08:12] <stefg> luke-jr_work: the problem is that we're still dependant on some closed-source stuff for getting our daily work done, but that's not available for the 64bit arch in some cases. It's not ubuntus fault, it's the win-compatibility
[08:12] <Onbir> I don't get this, really.
[08:12] <arcade> erUSUL: But .. what can be the reason for grub failing to load the menu.lst in the first place?
[08:12] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, too bad at least 50% of the web publishers don't agree with you
[08:12] <luke-jr_work> stefg: who is?
[08:13] <stefg> w32codecs and flash are the most painful
[08:13] <Onbir> Seveas, can I talk to you in PM?
[08:13] <babyboy_> Hey
[08:13] <Seveas> Onbir, if you think it'll be useful, sure
[08:13] <babyboy_> How do i uninstall a debian package please?
[08:13] <Onbir> Okay.
[08:13] <soon> hi folks! Looking at youtube.com ... I have picture but no sound, although system sounds and CD-playback work fine .... any suggestions?
[08:13] <Seveas> babyboy_, apt-get remove packagename_here
[08:13] <farchord> soon: Blame Adobe for that
[08:13] <Seveas> soon, yes, slap adobe
[08:13] <babyboy_> Thanks you seveas Ill try now :)
[08:13] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, great for you :>
[08:14] <farchord> soon: We're stuck with Flash 7 on linux, when Windows/MacOSX are on 9
[08:14] <erUSUL> arcade: i do not know, sorry... if the one in the live cd can i can't see why the one in the hd don't (assuming they are the same grub version)
[08:14] <Ketsuban> For some reason Rhythmbox refuses to play music. I doubleclick on the file in Rhythmbox and it just sits there at 0:00.
[08:14] <soon> I tried slapping adobe - they flinch, but theres no sound !
[08:14] <arcade> erUSUL: it's kubuntu 6.06
[08:14] <brkamikaze> Ketsuban, apt-get remove rhythmbox
[08:14] <TheGateKeeper> soon: yep it's probable using flash 9 & linux only uses 7 at the moment
[08:14] <brkamikaze> I hat that app ;/
[08:14] <scheuri> soon: well, for me it works...but...uhmm...win32codecs installed?
[08:14] <scheuri> youtube works for me...
[08:14] <erUSUL> Ketsuban: did you installed the gstreamer plugins ??
[08:14] <farchord> imo I wonder if installing Mozilla firefox on Wine (win32 version) and installing flash on it would work
[08:14] <Ketsuban> I installed the gstreamer plugins.
[08:14] <soon> Is that the problem? Version 7 vs. 9 ? ... win32codecs ... I'll check
[08:14] <luke-jr_work> websites should be seen, not heard
[08:15] <brkamikaze> Seveas, :P
[08:15] <soon> my other machine (amd64) is not going ANYWHERE flash wise !
[08:15] <stefg> farchord: that's the usual resort
[08:15] <brkamikaze> what gtk2 alternatives do I have to Rhythmbox?
[08:15] <luke-jr_work> farchord: why don't you just install IE?
[08:15] <Seveas> brkamikaze, seriously. Lots of new users would do anything people say in here so we don't tolerate destructive advic
[08:15] <Seveas> e
[08:15] <brkamikaze> Seveas, ok
[08:15] <TheGateKeeper> soon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[08:15] <erUSUL> brkamikaze: banshee ??
[08:15] <LjL> brkamikaze, dunno, beep media player?
[08:15] <farchord> luke-jr_work: cuz firefox is less of a pain?
[08:16] <brkamikaze> I'll try bmp then
[08:16] <TheGateKeeper> soon: http://en.jakilinux.org/linux/ubuntu/kubuntu-606-on-athlon-64/
[08:16] <brkamikaze> banshee according to the site is more suited to audio organizing than to playback
[08:16] <luke-jr_work> farchord: Flash isn't
[08:16] <brkamikaze> currently I'm stuck with xmms :P
[08:16] <soon> TheGateKeeper ... thats all dumbed down 32bit flash stuff on 64 bit :-(
[08:16] <Samuli^> is the 64bit version even that much faster?
[08:17] <LjL> brkamikaze: well that's similar to amarok then i suppose... but all in all, all those non-winamp-like players end up being more suited to organizing than playing, imho
[08:17] <farchord> luke-jr_work: I'll see a bit later about that, flash is fun, but.... dunno if it's worth all this hassle
[08:17] <erUSUL> brkamikaze: listen ?? Ex Falso??
[08:17] <TheGateKeeper> soon: it's what you have to live with until they sort it all out
[08:17] <brkamikaze> I love amaroK
[08:17] <farchord> Samuli^: I'm on it atm. Not really.
[08:17] <farchord> I mean, it is faster, but not worth reformatting imo
[08:17] <Samuli^> farchord, ok.
[08:17] <brkamikaze> farchord, it's faster if the memory is aligned
[08:18] <brkamikaze> since not always it happens... ;/
[08:18] <optimusprime> how do you restart the xserver?
[08:18] <luke-jr_work> Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[08:18] <erUSUL> optimusprime: Crtl + Alt + backspace
[08:18] <luke-jr_work> bye
[08:18] <stefg> optimusprime: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:18] <brkamikaze> :O
[08:18] <mypapit> ?????????~?????
[08:18] <brkamikaze> stefg, that restarts gdm not X
[08:19] <stefg> brkamikaze: what actually most people want, if the ask to restart
[08:19] <erUSUL> brkamikaze: well, it does both afaics
[08:19] <luke-jr_work> Ctrl-Alt-Backspace is faster
[08:19] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, agreed
[08:19] <luke-jr_work> unless you disable it like I do
[08:19] <soon> I'm not having any luck with the win32codecs finding it in synaptic .... a repository thing I suspect.
[08:20] <stefg> !repos
[08:20] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:20] <luke-jr_work> I pressed C-A-B too often accidentally
[08:20] <brkamikaze> soon, you need multiverse
[08:20] <TheGateKeeper> soon: hang on...
[08:20] <ompaul> luke-jr_work, faster is not always good, in fact usually it is not good
[08:20] <gnomefreak> soon: thats because they are not in repos
[08:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !win32codecs
[08:20] <scheuri> soon: ah...the win32codecs are hard to get...;)....check !restricted
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <Volvo> Bill Clinton told the Labour conference to get into Ubuntu.. Eh   Source:   http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/5388182.stm
[08:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[08:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:20] <gnomefreak> !w32codecs > soon
[08:20] <erUSUL> !seveas > soon
[08:20] <stefg> !libdvdcss
[08:20] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:20] <TheGateKeeper> soon:
[08:20] <TheGateKeeper> wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[08:20] <TheGateKeeper> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[08:20] <TheGateKeeper> that is what you want ^^^^
[08:21] <Ketsuban> Banshee wouldn't play either.
[08:21] <kothz> check out Automatix for w32codecs
[08:21] <stefg> ugly habbit to use debain packages...
[08:21] <brkamikaze> Ketsuban, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[08:21] <Jack_Sparrow> kothz: Bad bad bad
[08:21] <M_A_K> Is there an easier command than rm -R when the tree has many many many folders and files?
[08:21] <scheuri> stefg: uhmm....why? dapper is all debian packages...
[08:21] <M_A_K> Faster I mean
[08:21] <Ketsuban> brkamikaze: Did that already.
[08:21] <Jack_Sparrow> kothz: Worst thing you can do to your PC
[08:21] <brkamikaze> M_A_K, faster than rm? you're kidding, right? :P
[08:22] <sureshot> hey does ubuntu use a registry like windows does
[08:22] <M_A_K> Like a deltree or something?
[08:22] <arcade> erUSUL: Apparantly this motherboard works perfeclty with 5.11 .. I'll try that tomorrow :)
[08:22] <brkamikaze> I've never seen something faster than rm
[08:22] <TheGateKeeper> kothz: see my reply above which is much easier & safer
[08:22] <erUSUL> Ketsuban: i think the problem is that you do not have the apropiate gstreamer plgins installed. do you have mutiverse enabled have you instaled plugins -ugly -bad and -good
[08:22] <luke-jr_work> sureshot: /etc
[08:22] <arcade> erUSUL: .. according to google :)
[08:22] <Ketsuban> erUSUL: as I've said thrice now, yes.
[08:22] <brkamikaze> sureshot, GNOME does explicitly
[08:22] <brkamikaze> sureshot, to edit it install gconf2-editor
[08:22] <soon> Im getting there TheGateKeeper
[08:22] <sureshot> so like windows if you install to much junk does ubuntu slow down like windows 95 98 xp 2000 ect
[08:23] <TheGateKeeper> soon: :-)
[08:23] <ompaul> sureshot, no
[08:23] <brkamikaze> sureshot, no way
[08:23] <ompaul> sureshot, try it and find out
[08:23] <raul> wenas
[08:23] <Jack_Sparrow> sureshot: Windows slows down from the minute you install it
[08:23] <raul> alguien sabe hackear webs?
[08:23] <eracc> M_A_K, deletion speed is more determined by the file system used than by rm.
[08:23] <optimusprime> enabling transparency......does that minimize the CPU workload and the Memory?
[08:23] <sureshot> i know i liked this os for some reason hehehe my windows box needs reinstalled again
[08:23] <shinx> hello, does so. runs the engage dock on ubuntu (gnome) ?
[08:23] <ompaul> !es
[08:23] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:23] <erUSUL> !es
[08:23] <M_A_K> eracc : can you elaborate?
[08:23] <erUSUL> auch!!
[08:24] <luke-jr_work> optimusprime: transparency uses CPU, obviously
[08:24] <sureshot> jack_sparrow off topic i am down in the back this week and to top it off i have pnewmonia
[08:24] <eracc> M_A_K, some file systems handle delete operations faster than others. (file system meaning ext3, reiser, etc.)
[08:24] <brkamikaze> Ketsuban, dpkg -l gstreamer0.10-plugins-{good,bad,ugly}
[08:24] <sureshot> i hate installing windows to many driver disks
[08:24] <shinx> nobody?:(
[08:24] <M_A_K> OK.
[08:25] <Jack_Sparrow> sureshot: Get well my friend
[08:25] <brkamikaze> see if all of them show a version installed
[08:25] <eracc> M_A_K, I don't know the benchmarks I just know that is true.
[08:25] <sureshot> i hope do have appt with a seorgon nov 7
[08:26] <brkamikaze> HeavyThinker, pray to god too
[08:26] <brkamikaze> he might help you :P
[08:26] <Symbolizer> hi
[08:26] <brkamikaze> hi
[08:26] <luke-jr_work> we're not merciful on IRC
[08:26] <soon> hmmm Installed w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb and restarted Firefox ... still no sound
[08:26] <sureshot> jack_sparrow is there anyway to turn off the lines that say who logs in and who logs out of the channel
[08:26] <M_A_K> I tried a sudo cp -dpR source target and got... cp: cannot create symbolic link `/media/MIKE\'S HD/LaptopBackup/knichel/Desktop/06-07': Operation not permitted  What is this telling me?
[08:26] <HeavyThinker> brkamikaze: awww, but irc is practically a religion!
[08:27] <Symbolizer> whenm i install ubuntu 6.06 + Lilo i wont get dual boot. I have to fixmbr with windows xp recovery-disc + at the ubuntu installation it wont ask me to create a user :\
[08:27] <luke-jr_work> HeavyThinker: IRC is a protocol
[08:27] <Ketsuban> brkamikaze: all three are installed.
[08:27] <Jack_Sparrow> sureshot: Yes.. what irc client are you using
[08:27] <Symbolizer> It did work with the older version
[08:27] <brkamikaze> Ketsuban, weird then
[08:27] <brkamikaze> try xmms
[08:27] <brkamikaze> that surely works
[08:27] <TheGateKeeper> soon: what is the url?
[08:27] <sureshot> jack_sparrow konversation
[08:27] <lupine_85> xmms++
[08:27] <Symbolizer> So I basicly gets a ubuntu-version which i cant login too and my windows p partition is useless
[08:27] <brkamikaze> I like xine best than gstreamer
[08:27] <luke-jr_work> mpd++
[08:27] <soon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgHfq0epSJg
 brkamikaze: awww, but irc is practically a religion! <-- then pray to ChanServ
[08:28] <HeavyThinker> luke-jr_work: correct. but there are some who worship irc...
[08:28] <brkamikaze> Seveas, agreed
[08:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Let me find it.. one sec
[08:28] <luke-jr_work> HeavyThinker: so? doesn't change reality
[08:28] <HeavyThinker> Seveas: haha good idea - my original point was there are too many acronyms around (dri,git,irc,rfc)
[08:28] <luke-jr_work> soon: http://videodownloader.net/get/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyoutube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DXgHfq0epSJg
[08:29] <Onbir> Guys, what else operators are here on Ubuntu? Seveas is a bit... unfriendly. I am trying to get me unbanned here, in a friendly conversation, but he simply doesn't believe me. He thinks I'm lying!
[08:29] <HeavyThinker> luke-jr_work: correct. now back to the topic.. ubuntu.
[08:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Settings, configure, chat window check the box... hide join.part
[08:29] <Seveas> Onbir, /msg chanserv access #ubuntu list
[08:29] <luke-jr_work> Onbir: you're quite obviously not banned if you're talkign here
[08:29] <sureshot> ko
[08:29] <Seveas> luke-jr_work, he's not far away from being banned though
[08:29] <Onbir> luke-jr_work: In the offtopic channel :P
[08:29] <Onbir> ....
[08:30] <Onbir> God.. whatever I do, i ruin it for myself. I can only say to you, Seveas, you gotta believe me.
[08:30] <habeeb> Hello, Im having a serious problem. I cant use the u of my keyboard. Before the previous reboot, I would get this problem, but if I installed a new keyboard layout it would get fixed. Now it doesnt. (I now paste the letter u to write :/ )
[08:30] <luke-jr_work> habeeb: maybe hardware?
[08:30] <habeeb> I thoght it was a shortcut problem, but nothing is binded to u
[08:30] <soon> luke-jnr_work what the heck is a flv player?
[08:30] <habeeb> luke-jr_work: no way, like I said, I co  you, Seveas, you gotta believe me.
[08:30] <habeeb> 21:30 < habeeb> Hello, Im having a serious problem. I cant use the u of my
[08:30] <habeeb>                 keyboard. Before the previous reboot, I would get this problem,
[08:30] <luke-jr_work> soon: mplayer?
[08:30] <habeeb>                 but if I installed a new keyboard layout it would get fixed.
[08:30] <Jack_Sparrow> sureshot: Did you get that?
[08:30] <habeeb>                 Now it doesnt. (I now paste the letter u to write :/ )
[08:30] <habeeb> damn!
[08:31] <barry> is this the ubuntu channel
[08:31] <Onbir> *sigh*
[08:31] <sureshot> jack_sparrow thanks alot man now i can read better my eyes are not that great thanks
[08:31] <Ketsuban> No, this is the Microsoft lovers channel.
[08:31] <barry> my god i actually got ubutu working
[08:31] <Symbolizer> What's wrong when the ubuntu-installlation wont ask me to create a user?
[08:31] <Jack_Sparrow> barry: Yes and Welcome
[08:31] <Seveas> barry, congratulations!
[08:31] <soon> luke-jnr_work : yes movie player
[08:31] <barry> even my Wireless ra0 works
[08:31] <Jack_Sparrow> cool
[08:31] <HedgeMage> yay, barry :D
[08:31] <Seveas> Symbolizer, did you do 'oem install'?
[08:31] <luke-jr_work> soon: mplayer
[08:31] <soon> mplayer will play the flv file?
[08:31] <Symbolizer> Seveas, Yeah
[08:31] <erUSUL> Symbolizer: maybe you installed in oem mode??
[08:31] <sureshot> brb
[08:31] <barry> its great, ive been enlightened to a totaly new environment
[08:31] <luke-jr_work> soon: yes
[08:31] <HeavyThinker> barry: mmm, first distro i've tried to support my rt2500 wireless out-of-the-box
[08:31] <Symbolizer> oh
[08:31] <Ketsuban> ESD seems to be my problem.
[08:31] <soon> great I'll try it
[08:32] <Seveas> Symbolizer, don't do that if you don't know what you are doing 
[08:32] <barry> i just set dhcp servers
[08:32] <barry> and connect
[08:32] <Symbolizer> Seveas, ok :) thanks
[08:32] <barry> activate
[08:32] <luke-jr_work> ...set dhcp servers? wtf?
[08:32] <brkamikaze> Ketsuban, if everything else fails, try mpg321
[08:32] <brkamikaze> or mpg123
[08:32] <barry> its great how irc is preinstalled by GNOME on ubuntu
[08:32] <Seveas> luke-jr_work, i assume "set the card to use dhcp" ;)
[08:32] <barry> DHCP settings
[08:33] <sureshot> back
[08:33] <M_A_K> Has anybody ever gotten a Linksys WUSB54GSC usb wireless nic working under 6.06?
[08:33] <soon> luke-jnr_work well actually I have totem player
[08:33] <edmundo_v> does anyone here uses utf8 on the console with a language that has accents?
[08:33] <eracc> Hmmm, clamav and dspam on 6.06.1 are both older versions than I have been running already. Is there some place where essential utilities like these are kept current for the *buntus?
[08:33] <barry> i just keeep looking up the WIKI for every operation
[08:33] <brkamikaze> edmundo_v, I do
[08:33] <sureshot> if you dont know what the outcome or how to do something please ask here someone here will find out save you a lot of greeff
[08:33] <brkamikaze> and I dislike it ;/
[08:34] <barry> im using a net gear router
[08:34] <barry> complete compatibility
[08:34] <brkamikaze> how can I use ISO-8859-1 as the default encoding here instead of UTF-8?
[08:34] <sureshot> barry is that a wireless router
[08:34] <barry> ya
[08:34] <brkamikaze> I can't interoperate with windoze with UTF-8 ;/
[08:34] <sureshot> i have one it works fine
[08:34] <barry> 108mbps wireless g
[08:34] <edmundo_v> brkamikaze, and it works on the shell?
[08:35] <marshall> how do you know if you have a multicore processor if you arent on a multicore kernel?
[08:35] <eracc> IIRC I had built dspam from source but found a package for clamav (for Mandriva). I need to make sure I can get the latest before I replace my server's Mandriva with Ubuntu server.
[08:35] <erUSUL> edmundo_v: gnome-terminal or the linux consoles at crtl + alt Fn ??
[08:35] <brkamikaze> edmundo_v, I want to switch to ISO-8859-1
[08:35] <barry> can you join any channel through this
[08:35] <sureshot> i dont know if mine will do 108 i will have to look that up my card is a 54mps
[08:35] <barry> ah its 54
[08:35] <edmundo_v> erUSUL, the linux consoles
[08:35] <barry> no harm
[08:36] <barry> ubuntu software is goign to be th efun one
[08:36] <edmundo_v> erUSUL, for brazilian portuguese it only works properly with ISO-8859-1
[08:36] <eracc> Hrm, I see a ton of *buntu channels. Is there one more dedicated to server questions like mine?
[08:37] <barry> i live in Ireland and nobody even knows ubuntu
[08:37] <erUSUL> edmundo_v: i do. i'm spanish and i can use accents and dieresis
[08:37] <barry> are people living in holes
[08:37] <erUSUL> edmundo_v: but do not ask me why ;)
[08:37] <barry> i wouldnt give up until i got it working
[08:38] <barry> whats a good place to start off with ubuntu
[08:38] <barry> commands, etc, software
[08:38] <Jack_Sparrow> barry: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[08:39] <brkamikaze> Who knows how to banish UTF-8 from that "Default Charset" list?
[08:39] <barry> thanks Jack
[08:39] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[08:39] <Seveas> brkamikaze, take a timemachine to the last century
[08:39] <brkamikaze> I wanna use ISO-8859-1 so I can read accented texts without ugly diamonds in the middle ;/
[08:39] <Jack_Sparrow> barry: What are you interests so we can nudge you in the right direction?
[08:39] <brkamikaze> phpBB2 with the pt-br translation gets REALLY ugly
[08:39] <marshall> how do you know if you have a multicore processor if you arent on a multicore kernel?
[08:39] <brkamikaze> and I need to transfer my site's database to windows when my father is going to use Windows
[08:40] <edmundo_v> brkamikaze, http://ffmeyer.schtuff.com/f%C3%B3rum_ubuntu_linux_exibir_t%C3%B3pico_iso_8859_1_no_dapper_final
[08:40] <brkamikaze> the accented words on the site become 2 unrelated charactersw
[08:40] <barry> oh good question......is thre anyway to have msn messenger on UBUNTU
[08:40] <Seveas> brkamikaze, then that's a bug in phpBB2 --- it should send along the correct headers to indicate charset
[08:40] <brkamikaze> barry, wine
[08:40] <M_A_K> Well ppl, I gotta go get my kids off the bus.  Thanks for being so supportive.  L8R...
[08:40] <kothz> barry: use gaim :)
[08:40] <Jack_Sparrow> gaim
[08:40] <Seveas> barry, applications  internet  gaim
[08:40] <eracc> barry, kopete or Gaim
[08:40] <Seveas> (or kopete, or amsn, or bitlbee)
[08:40] <barry> cool thansk really helpful support chat
[08:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Sure eracc be different  :)
[08:40] <brkamikaze> Seveas, When I tell firefox to use ISO-8859-1, it seems to ignore me, because it reloads the page and it works just until I reload it again or go to another page
[08:40] <kothz> heck, I use gaim on windows :)
[08:41] <eracc> :-)
[08:41] <brkamikaze> ISO-8859-1 is marked as the default charset in the options
[08:41] <brkamikaze> and it still wants to use UTF-8!
[08:41] <Jack_Sparrow> barry: It helps that we are not swamped at the moment
[08:41] <Seveas> brkamikaze, then the page sends along a charset header
[08:41] <Jack_Sparrow> barry: Our answers get alot shorter
[08:41] <soon> luke-jnr_work ... thanks mate - it works now !
[08:41] <eracc> No one knows the answer to my server questions ...
[08:41] <kothz> What's your server question?
[08:42] <eracc> Hmmm, clamav and dspam on 6.06.1 are both older versions than I have been running already. Is there some place where essential utilities like these are kept current for the *buntus?
[08:42] <barry> fucking unreal
[08:42] <eracc> IIRC I had built dspam from source but found a package for clamav (for Mandriva). I need to make sure I can get the latest before I replace my server's Mandriva with Ubuntu server.
[08:42] <Seveas> eracc, try backporting it from edgy
[08:42] <barry> way more efficient than windows
[08:42] <Jack_Sparrow> barry: That will draw the rath of the ops
[08:42] <barry> totally reliable and simplistic
[08:42] <barry> its cool
[08:42] <Seveas> barry, please keep the language family-friendly here
[08:42] <eracc> Seveas, do you mean add the "backports" repository? Or doing the backport on me own self?
[08:42] <barry> soory
[08:43] <kothz> I tend to not rely on ubuntu builds (or packages in general on any distro) for time-sensitive updates.
[08:43] <marshall> how do you know if you have a multicore processor if you arent on a multicore kernel?
[08:43] <Seveas> eracc, the latter of course ;)
[08:43] <ompaul> !language
[08:43] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:43] <eracc> Seveas, I figured. Just wanted clarity. :-)
[08:43] <Seveas> eracc, it's not that hard to do on Ubuntu
[08:43] <barry> the window disappears once it logs in
[08:43] <Seveas> eracc, add this to /etc/apt/sources.list:
[08:44] <barry> in gaim
[08:44] <Seveas> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main universe restricted multiverse
[08:44] <Seveas> eracc, then take the following steps:
[08:44] <gnomefreak> Seveas: isnt it just grabing the source and uploading it to a server?
[08:44] <miloszp> hello
[08:44] <Jack_Sparrow> marshall: You might watch as the system boots through cmos/bios for the processor type
[08:44] <miloszp> I have a problem with my 5.1 soundsystem. I'd like to pass low frequencies to the subwoofer.
[08:44] <kothz> barry: look up in your notification space / task bar, you'll see the little gaim icon, you can pull up the buddy list
[08:44] <barry> where does gaim minimize to when it signs on
[08:45] <Seveas> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install build-essential fakeroot devscripts dpkg-dev; apt-get source clamav; cd clamav-XXXX; dpkg-buikdpackage -rfakeroot
[08:45] <barry> i cant find the icon
[08:45] <brkamikaze> I'm going to reboot here
[08:45] <brkamikaze> to finish the dapper update
[08:45] <Seveas> eracc, err, I forgot this: sudo apt-get build-dep clamav
[08:45] <brkamikaze> what's the beep media player package name?
[08:45] <POVaddct> barry: maybe it's in the taskbar, i don't know gaim
[08:45] <stefg> !info bmp
[08:45] <ubotu> Package bmp does not exist in any distro I know
[08:45] <Seveas> brkamikaze, beep-media-player
[08:45] <marshall> Jack_Sparrow, ok
[08:45] <barry> i checked nowhere to be found
[08:45] <barry> lol
[08:45] <kothz> Barry: have you added the notification area to your task bar?
[08:46] <barry> no
[08:46] <barry> lol
[08:46] <barry> whats that
[08:46] <Jack_Sparrow> marshall: Sorry, it was my only thought.. and you were ot getting many answers
[08:46] <brkamikaze> Seveas, damn dashes :P
[08:46] <brkamikaze> I'll be back later
[08:46] <eracc> Seveas, thanks. I'm saving that to a file so I can digest it. :-)
[08:46] <whurley> I know I've already ask this yesterday, but there weren't any suggestions and I'm getting somewhat desperate ;) Here is the issue I'm having trouble with. When installing onto boxes supplied to us by Penguin Computing (dual opteron 248s 4GB ram 300GB hd) the amd 64 bit Ubuntu cd boots up fine but freezes right after the "io scheduler cfg registered" and right before where the kernel should be loaded into the ram disk. We're tried sev
[08:46] <marshall> Jack_Sparrow, lol its ok
[08:46] <barry> how do i add the notification area to the task bar
[08:46] <Seveas> eracc, the manpages for the commands I mentioned help too if you want to understand what you are doing ;)
[08:46] <azzgor> hey
[08:47] <Seveas> barry, rightclick on the bar, select 'add to panel'
[08:47] <eracc> Seveas, yeah, that is what I mean by "digest". :-)
[08:47] <kothz> barry: right click on the task bar, add to panel -> utilities -> notification area
[08:47] <azzgor> i got some problems, WoW seems to crash for no reason, gaim too
[08:47] <Seveas> eracc, ;)
[08:47] <appelza> Hi
[08:47] <appelza> What is the 64bit channel name?
[08:47] <eracc> 'man' is your friend (mostly)
[08:47] <Seveas> appelza, #ubuntu
[08:47] <miloszp> I have a problem with my 5.1 soundsystem. I'd like to pass low frequencies to the subwoofer.
[08:47] <appelza> Ok
[08:48] <barry> theres no utilities or notification icon
[08:48] <azzgor> when i start wow, CPU goes to 100%, it usualy works for about 10mins then crashes of freezez for absolutely no reason
[08:48] <appelza> My ubuntu 64bit server install only detects 2gb of my 4gb ram
[08:48] <appelza> How do I get that sorted out?
[08:48] <whurley> appelza: what's your server hw?
[08:48] <appelza> amd opteron
[08:48] <Jack_Sparrow> barry: Just one warning...   Avoid scripts like Automatix for installing items.  It is best just to ask us here than to risk messing you your system.  Oh, and NOW would be a good time for a backup,, dont you think?
[08:49] <nidontknow> Hello all. I have webcam that is up and running, but I'm looking for an App that will allow me to capture video. Something similar to Windows MovieMaker would be nice.
[08:49] <barry> im just learning
[08:49] <barry> im tryign to find a notification area
[08:49] <barry> or add one
[08:49] <Seveas> barry, then make sure you make backups. Learning comes with errors ;)
[08:49] <barry> how do i make back ups
[08:50] <appelza> Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 265, 4GB Ram, Tyan K8WE Thunder Motherboard
[08:50] <whurley> appelza: dual opterons?
[08:50] <Seveas> barry, simply copy files you don't want to lose to a CD or usb stick
[08:50] <Jack_Sparrow> barry: Notification area first...  right click the upper task bar and then click on add
[08:50] <whurley> appelza: so just dual core then.
[08:50] <appelza> yup
[08:50] <whurley> appelza: did you have any issues during the install
[08:50] <appelza> No, went smooth
[08:50] <barry> got it
[08:50] <appelza> Tried reinstalling aswel
[08:50] <nidontknow> Does anyone know of a good program to capture video from a webcam???
[08:51] <barry> its just blank ill try opening GAIM again
[08:51] <Jack_Sparrow> barry: under utilities you will find notification area
[08:51] <barry> found it
[08:51] <jotavo>  problem with an old soundblaster ISA sound card
[08:51] <jotavo> help
[08:51] <appelza> And tried the mem=4096 in grub.conf ...is there a way to check the kernel configuration if it has the prober highmem stuff?
[08:51] <whurley> appelza: I have a dual opteron set up (248s) and I can't get the install to even come close to working. No boot options work, etc.
[08:51] <Jack_Sparrow> jotavo: I thought isa support was dropped
[08:52] <barry> the icon for gaim stays up by the ask bar f ra few secs then it totally dissappears
[08:52] <appelza> whurley: ubuntu server?
[08:52] <appelza> or just normal ubuntu 64?
[08:52] <whurley> appelza: yeah
[08:52] <whurley> appelza: just tried the latest and greatest
[08:52] <farchord> hmmm..... is it normal that only one app can access the sound card at a time?
[08:52] <farchord> <.<
[08:52] <appelza> meh
[08:52] <lewix> what's the command to have his ip adress
[08:52] <whurley> appelza: the issue: when installing onto boxes supplied to us by Penguin Computing (dual opteron 248s 4GB ram 300GB hd) the amd 64 bit Ubuntu cd boots up fine but freezes right after the "io scheduler cfg registered" and right before where the kernel should be loaded into the ram disk. We're tried several boot options and other tricks and tips but nothing works. Any suggestions?
[08:52] <lewix> on a terminal
[08:53] <Rasta> hi all
[08:53] <Firestar> whurley, have you tried the AMD64 version of the 6.06 server?
[08:53] <Jack_Sparrow> barry: There isnt a little icon next to the arrow used to exit Ubuntu
[08:53] <farchord> And YAY installing Final Fantasy XI on linux atm :D I cross my fingers so it works! :D
[08:53] <whurley> Firestar: yep, this is the AMD64 version in question
[08:53] <appelza> whurley: not really no, sorry
[08:53] <lewix> ipconfig?
[08:53] <Rasta> i just got ubuntu hoary but i was told that is a very old release, wich one i should download?
[08:53] <barry> does anybody know why GAIM disappears after 3 secs
[08:53] <nidontknow> I'm trying to record video from webcam. Help please.
[08:53] <stefg> !downlaod
[08:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about downlaod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:53] <stefg> !download
[08:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[08:54] <Firestar> anybody knows what the Ubuntu 64 bit channel name is?
[08:54] <whurley> appelza: no worries I'm just digging for anything I can. It's sadly turned to grasping at straws at this point with no one being able to even give me a clue as to how we can get this working
[08:54] <eracc> whurley, yell at Penguin Computing tech support until they help you solve your problem? :-)
[08:54] <stefg> There is neither a 64bit channle nor a ppc one...
[08:54] <Rasta> ok, so Dapper Drake its the good one
[08:54] <stefg> Rasta: yup!
[08:54] <barry> once i click gaim it just totally vanishes
[08:55] <Firestar> stefg, are you sure? someone earlier today referred me to it
[08:55] <barry> and thers no icon anywhere or minimisation
[08:55] <whurley> reacc: they're actually great at support, there was no need to yell and they're trying to help but I'm caught in the middle and it's only Ubuntu Dapper that seems to have the issue
[08:55] <Rasta> ok, thanks ill install it and maybe i came back later, i have like 2 years away from linux :(
[08:55] <Firestar> whurley, what motherboard have you got in there?
[08:55] <Jack_Sparrow> barry: I wonder if it wont open because it cant open a port.. anyone know?
[08:55] <eracc> whurley, I was joking, actually. I know PC has good support. :-)
[08:55] <miloszp> I have a problem with my 5.1 soundsystem. I'd like to pass low frequencies to the subwoofer.
[08:56] <stefg> Firestar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat#head-729211ea4fb3c5b535d3d8a533dbc007c8dbce14
[08:56] <barry> no, it connects to msn server but then once i click the window to look at my contcta sit just totally vanishes
[08:56] <whurley> eracc: sorry this is the first time I've used them and they gave us the boxes lol, so I have little experience with them
[08:56] <Firestar> thanks stefg
[08:56] <whurley> Firestar: checking motherboard
[08:56] <sda> hi! how do I access a NTFS-drive on my computer that windows has written to FROM ubuntu?
[08:56] <sda> do I need to mount it, and where do I find it?
[08:57] <barry> Jack_Sparrow: it connects alright but once i try to look at my contacts it closes or soething
[08:57] <Seveas> !ntfs
[08:57] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:57] <sda> thanks!
[08:57] <farchord> I don't wanna know how, but do you guys know if it's safe to write to ntfs partitions from linux yet?
[08:57] <farchord> I heard things about it
[08:57] <erUSUL> !fuse
[08:57] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:57] <w30> anyone know how to solve "my printer won't finish a print job, but it actually does" problem with a print server on 192.168.1.250? I had s end end of file option in Fedora gnome-print but I don't get it in Ubuntu
[08:57] <farchord> ahhh ok
[08:58] <Sp4rKy> hi
[08:58] <barry> does anyone know how GAIM is disappearing after it connects and signs in
[08:58] <Sp4rKy> i'm trying install postfix
[08:58] <Rasta> man that ! hints are very helpful
[08:58] <Jack_Sparrow> barry: HAve you made accounts and all of that in gaim already?
[08:58] <Sp4rKy> but after installation / configuration , i try to reload mysql, but it doesn't :/
[08:58] <barry> ya
[08:58] <barry> it  connects and everything
[08:58] <Sp4rKy> http://pastebin.wikistuce.info/?245 <== the error of /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[08:58] <barry> just disappears after 3 secs
[08:58] <erUSUL> barry: launch it from terminal it may spit out some error msg
[08:58] <Sp4rKy> http://pastebin.wikistuce.info/?246 <== postconf -n
[08:58] <Sp4rKy>  http://pastebin.wikistuce.info/?247 <== syslog
[08:59] <Sp4rKy> help me pleasssee
[08:59] <barry> how do i do that
[08:59] <farchord> Anyone knows if it's normal that I am unable to play more than one song at a time? I mean, if I play music, and go in Teamspeak, Teamspeak will refuse to capture....
[08:59] <w30> barry, run it in an xterm and see if it leaves any output on the terminal
[08:59] <sureshot> is your card full duplex
[08:59] <stefg> farchord: dmix is what you want
[08:59] <stefg> !alsa
[08:59] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:59] <w30> barry, it might say segfault or something
[09:00] <farchord> Thanks
[09:00] <reptyle> barry, applications > accessories > terminal, in the window that pops up, run gaim -d
[09:00] <pedrocr> ever since I upgraded to edgy sound-juicer stopped having any sound profiles to use. Anyone know why this happens?
[09:00] <w30> barry, open an sterm and type gaim
[09:00] <barry> its logging
[09:01] <w30> sterm/xterm
[09:01] <Firestar> !amd64
[09:01] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[09:01] <barry> it still disappeared
[09:01] <FlaX> Following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild gives me a problem since it don't have debian/rules how do i fix it?
[09:01] <barry> no error signed in and closed or something
[09:01] <reptyle> barry, did the prompt return in the terminal?
[09:02] <pussfeller> anyone know how to start bitlbee?
[09:02] <barry> connected
[09:02] <appelza> whats the difference between these two : (I mean, which one should I use on a SMP ubuntu 64 server machine)
[09:02] <appelza> Inst linux-amd64-k8-smp (2.6.15.25 Ubuntu:6.06/dapper-security)
[09:02] <appelza> Inst linux-amd64-server [2.6.15.24]  (2.6.15.25 Ubuntu:6.06/dapper-security)
[09:02] <barry> then off
[09:02] <Seveas> appelza, k8-smp
[09:02] <appelza> thanks!
[09:03] <appelza> would i need to remove the existing kernel, or will it upgrade automaticly?
[09:03] <barry> it says theres a bug in the software
[09:03] <brkamikaze> weird stuff happens with BMP when I'm using synaptic
[09:03] <brkamikaze> every time I mark a package for installation
[09:03] <brkamikaze> BMP goes mute
[09:03] <barry> somethign about aa core file
[09:03] <brkamikaze> :P
[09:03] <brkamikaze> barry, what software?
[09:03] <Crescendo> Default GUI install of Ubuntu, is there any firewall?
[09:04] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[09:04] <brkamikaze> appelza, neither
[09:04] <barry> GAIIM
[09:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall
[09:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[09:04] <brkamikaze> it will be a completely new kernel and the default boot option
[09:04] <barry> theres a bug in the software GAIM
[09:04] <stefg> Crescendo: no open ports, no firewall required :-)
[09:04] <trianglemanwins> anyone offer guildence install in radeon drivers?
[09:04] <barry> its just closes after signing in
[09:04] <brkamikaze> barry, ;/
[09:04] <brkamikaze> I don't use GAIM
[09:04] <barry> oh
[09:04] <barry> its really fustrating
[09:04] <reptyle> barry, run gaim -n which will stop it from logging in. then you can disable individual accounts from logging in automatically until you can find what account / protocol is causing the issue.
[09:04] <cpk2> barry: how so? I havent had any problems using the gaim i got from apt-get
[09:04] <Seveas> barry, no, it minimizes to the tray
[09:05] <Crescendo> stefg, I was having problems connecting to a certain server I installed, outside of NAT.  So, hrm.  Must be a problem with the server.
[09:05] <reptyle> welp, barry go bye bye :P
[09:05] <f_favila> no problems with Gaim here
[09:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Crescendo: Install firestarter or guarddog and look at your ports
[09:06] <appelza> brkamikaze: thats good
[09:06] <appelza> so I can just apt-get install it and reboot remotely and hope for the best?
[09:06] <cpk2> you dont *have* to use firestarter
[09:06] <brkamikaze> appelza, yes
[09:06] <cpk2> iptables can do it all =P
[09:06] <barry_> it opens up with everythign perfect btu just disappears
[09:06] <appelza> excellent.
[09:06] <barry_> uless its hidden minised
[09:06] <mobal> hey guys
[09:06] <mobal> everybody here?
[09:06] <mobal> i need help :(
[09:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Crescendo: They are iptable managers not firewalls and they do not need to be run to provide protection
[09:06] <mobal> ubuntu 6.06
[09:06] <brkamikaze> mobal, nope, I'm away
[09:06] <brkamikaze> :)
[09:07] <LjL> !helpme
[09:07] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:07] <brkamikaze> what's the problem?
[09:07] <lightstep> is libdvdcss available for unubtu? it isn't in the standard servers.
[09:07] <Sigfried> HI
[09:07] <mobal> i can't start compiz xgl
[09:07] <Crescendo> Jack_Sparrow, I don't WANT protection, but I'm installing firestarter just to look.
[09:07] <appelza> downloading it now, do you think not using the smp kernel would cause my ram issue (4gb only shows up as 2gb..)
[09:07] <LjL> !xgl
[09:07] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:07] <brkamikaze> lightstep, it's in universe/multiverse
[09:07] <appelza> im hoping that is whats causing it, anyway
[09:07] <Sigfried> WHAT IS THIS ?
[09:07] <brkamikaze> !restricted
[09:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Crescendo: Agreed
[09:07] <Seveas> Sigfried, drop the caps please
[09:07] <LjL> Sigfried: use lowercase please... what is what?
[09:07] <Seveas> Sigfried, this is a support channel
[09:07] <mobal> yes i do
[09:08] <Crescendo> Jack_Sparrow, can't find package firestarter in the regular repos
[09:08] <Sigfried> ok
[09:08] <Sigfried> sorry !
[09:08] <Seveas> !firestarter
[09:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[09:08] <mobal> but ati card and gdm not change xgl to display 1
[09:08] <Seveas> !firestarter > Seveas
[09:08] <mobal> still display 0 :(
[09:08] <barry_> its showing  a bug - some core file
[09:08] <mobal> and this is the problem
[09:08] <brkamikaze> ubotu, that isn't much of a help :P
[09:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !firestarter
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about that isn't much of a help :P - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <cpk2> !info firestarter
[09:08] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 381 kB, installed size 1900 kB
[09:08] <brkamikaze> barry_, seek it
[09:08] <lewix> how can i know my ip.
[09:08] <brkamikaze> se if it at least exists ;/
[09:08] <barry_> how do i seek it
[09:08] <Sigfried> suport of what? UBUNTU ?
[09:08] <lewix> using the terminal
[09:08] <LjL> Sigfried: yes.
[09:08] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks cpk2
[09:08] <brkamikaze> Sigfried, you guessed it right
[09:08] <Sigfried> ok
[09:09] <lewix> how can i know my ip usind the terminal , is there a command?
[09:09] <Sigfried> I have  a huge problem with my modem connection !
[09:09] <barry_> how do i seek it
[09:09] <Winter-Soulstice> Whats the command to upgrade the distro from dapper to edgy?
[09:09] <brkamikaze> who knows of a FAST repository mirror for Ubuntu?
[09:09] <LjL> lewix: try "ifconfig"
[09:09] <Sigfried> Could you help me ?
[09:09] <brkamikaze> security.ubuntu.com is SLOW
[09:09] <barry_> Gaim has segfaulted and attempted to dump a core file.
[09:09] <barry_> This is a bug in the software and has happened through
[09:09] <barry_> no fault of your own.
[09:09] <brkamikaze> br.archive.ubuntu.com is also very slow right now
[09:09] <Seveas> brkamikaze, se.archive.ubuntu.com
[09:09] <cpk2> installing guard dog only made things worse for me, i just uninstalled it and then figured out how to get done what i wanted with iptables
[09:09] <LjL> Sigfried: well, start by telling us what the problem is, someone might hopefully know about it
[09:09] <Sigfried> Agere modem
[09:09] <barry_> how will i fix this error
[09:10] <Renan_s2> !info stress-test
[09:10] <ubotu> Package stress-test does not exist in any distro I know
[09:10] <_savior_> hello
[09:10] <erUSUL> !modem
[09:10] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[09:10] <Jack_Sparrow> cpk2: I have used guarddog a long time.. I must just be used to it.
[09:10] <brkamikaze> !dsl
[09:10] <Winter-Soulstice> sudo apt-get dist-update   <-- is this the code to update the distro from dapper to edgy?
[09:10] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[09:10] <Sigfried> wvdial start it
[09:10] <barry_> Gaim has segfaulted and attempted to dump a core file.
[09:10] <barry_> This is a bug in the software and has happened through
[09:10] <barry_> no fault of your own.
[09:10] <cpk2> barry_: are you using the gaim you got from the repos?
[09:10] <brkamikaze> Winter-Soulstice, after enabling edgy's repos and running sudo apt-get update
[09:10] <lightstep> brkamikaze, it's not there, but i found it anyhow. there is a script in /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples that installs it (very strange)
[09:10] <Sigfried> but after some seconds i have a error !
[09:10] <cpk2> Jack_Sparrow: might also be I am practically clueless when in comes to iptables =)
[09:10] <barry_> i got GAIM from applications - internet
[09:10] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[09:11] <brkamikaze> luke-jr_work, another thing I like very much in KDE
[09:11] <Sigfried> something like "timed out....."
[09:11] <brkamikaze> is dcop :)
[09:11] <kozmic> are there other people that have problems with flash in all browsers? after the latest update (atleast FF was updated, didnt notice of flash was) both firefox and opera gives my computer heavy load
[09:11] <cpk2> ubuntu comes with gaim? didnt know that
[09:11] <_savior_> I have a problem under ubuntu, which I couldn't correct (tried yesterday, but failed). Seems like I am hopelessly noob, so I hope I came to the right place :)
[09:11] <bobesponja> is it normal that in my fstab I have "UUID=1142b088-3277-4fb7-9a44-08fafa43dd1f /media/hda1    ext3  defaults  0  2" instead of "/dev/hda1" ?
[09:11] <lightstep> brkamikaze, the script installs a deb from some hardcoded server
[09:11] <barry_> how can i reinstall or fix the error on GAIM from preinstalled in applications
[09:11] <Renan_s2> cpk2, yes it does
[09:11] <_savior_> could someone possibly help me with power settings and governors?
[09:12] <brkamikaze> !restricted > lightstep
[09:12] <Seveas> bobesponja, yes
[09:12] <barry_> can you reinstall GAIM that comes with ubuntu
[09:12] <kothz> barry: try running gaim from the command line to see if it's complaining with anything meaningful
[09:12] <Seveas> barry_, apt-get install --reinstall gaim
[09:12] <JacksLivr> afternoon all: im trying to get wireless working on an EAP-FAST network. Possible?
[09:12] <barry_> how do i do apt -get
[09:13] <canute> Is it possible to do some kind of command which will for each line execute a python script with that line as argument? something like "ls -al | /usr/bin/mypython.py"
[09:13] <luke-jr_work> brkamikaze: dcop isn't part of KDE anymore
[09:13] <trianglemanwins> Anyone have experience with radeon graphics card drivers on ubuntu?
[09:13] <Seveas> canute, man xargs
[09:13] <Bardamu> hello
[09:13] <canute> ty :)
[09:13] <Bardamu> i want to test my microphone
[09:13] <cpk2> barry_: that was a command to use on the command line
[09:13] <Bardamu> someone pass me his adress ?
[09:13] <barry_> command not found
[09:13] <kothz> barry: type 'gaim' at the command line
[09:13] <_savior_> how can it be that the cpufreq directory is not in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0?
[09:14] <kothz> barry: does it complain about anything specific?
[09:14] <j`ey> how can I install ubuntu so that when the person turns the machine on for the first time, it runs through the install bit?
[09:14] <barry_> it complains about a dumped core file
[09:14] <Dr_willis> install bit?
[09:14] <Jack_Sparrow> People, play nice, time for me to get some work done
[09:14] <brkamikaze> Bardamu, open the volume control
[09:14] <alex222> whats a good program to download music on linux?
[09:14] <j`ey> Dr_willis: enter you name, timezone etc
[09:14] <alex222> like limewire
[09:14] <eracc> Once one understands iptables syntax then there is no need for anything other than a handmade script. :-)
[09:14] <robw810> Would someone mind advising why Onbir was banned from here?
[09:14] <brkamikaze> and unmute your microphone!
[09:15] <cpk2> frostwire?
[09:15] <barry_> where can i find something to reinstalll GAIM
[09:15] <Dr_willis> j`ey,  not a standard thing as far as ive EVER seen on any disrto
[09:15] <brkamikaze> alex222, aMule
[09:15] <brkamikaze> xMule
[09:15] <robw810> I'm asking not to try and get it lifted, but because he just mentioned it in another channel
[09:15] <brkamikaze> wine
[09:15] <brkamikaze> :)
[09:15] <Bardamu> brkamikaze,  i don't know if it's my skype or microphone
[09:15] <Dr_willis> j`ey,  unless the intstaller installs. then waits for the first reboot to ask some more questions.
[09:15] <Bardamu> pleas someone pass me his adress ?
[09:15] <Seveas> robw810, because he is a lying troll
[09:15] <barry_> heres the GAIM ERROR
[09:15] <barry_> Gaim has segfaulted and attempted to dump a core file.
[09:15] <barry_> This is a bug in the software and has happened through
[09:15] <barry_> no fault of your own.
[09:15] <brkamikaze> Dr_willis, he means something like Fedora's Anaconda
[09:16] <brkamikaze> it only asks more personal stuff after the first reboot
[09:16] <robw810> Seveas: thank you - of all places, he comes to ##slackware.  WTF?  :D
[09:16] <Seveas> robw810, good luck with him!
[09:16] <robw810> :)
[09:16] <difeta> I have an ipaddress, how can i lookup the person's hostname?
[09:16] <brkamikaze> I think it's like he installs on the pc, gives it, and the user finishes installing thinks like choosing his login, pass, tz, etc
[09:16] <Seveas> difeta, host ip.address.here
[09:16] <barry_> allnet-tools.net
[09:16] <_savior_> no one is familiar with cpu frequency settings (ondemand governor, for instance)?
[09:16] <j`ey> brkamikaze: yah
[09:16] <JacksLivr> difeta: dig -x 123.123.123.123
[09:17] <j`ey> brkamikaze: is Fedore the only one with that
[09:17] <difeta> Jack_Sparrow, Seveas thanks a bunch
[09:17] <brkamikaze> j`ey, AFAIK it is
[09:17] <azzgor> difeta: you cant, if you arent in a network with the person, you can only find out the revers dns for that ip
[09:17] <j`ey> brkamikaze: thats a bit rubish
[09:17] <Seveas> j`ey, ubuntu has the oem install mode
[09:17] <Seveas> that's comparable
[09:17] <j`ey> Seveas: meaning?
[09:17] <brkamikaze> Seveas, :O
[09:17] <thedash> so, I am having some problems with a couple of drives I have installed, I can't read or write to any of them, chown either doesn't do anything or I am using the wrong syntax, I am at a loss
[09:17] <Seveas> (in fact it's better)
[09:17] <brkamikaze> how to use it?
[09:18] <JacksLivr> im trying to get wireless working on an EAP-FAST network. is it Possible?
[09:18] <j`ey> Seveas: any links?
[09:18] <Seveas> select "do an oem install" from the boot menu (alternate cd only)
[09:18] <JacksLivr> nota lotta google about it
[09:18] <brkamikaze> thedash, even as root?
[09:18] <thedash> yep
[09:18] <thedash> though I am not sure if I am doing it correctly
[09:18] <brkamikaze> show the fstab entry and the commands you used
[09:18] <barry_> i downloaded gaim 3,1 beta
[09:19] <zaggynl> anyone here uses Psi?
[09:19] <barry_> whats this/
[09:19] <barry_> Could not open the file "/home/barry/Desktop/gaim-1.5.0.x86.package"
[09:19] <appelza> how do I add : CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y to my kernel ?
[09:19] <Dr_willis> is that what an OEM install does? :P
[09:19] <j`ey> Seveas: ye
[09:20] <j`ey> Dr_willis: yeh, looks aout right
[09:20] <Dr_willis> appelza,  recompile the whole kernel..
[09:20] <cpk2> barry_: the gaim website should have a .deb
[09:20] <brkamikaze> barry_, chmod +x
[09:20] <barry_> whats the gaim website
[09:20] <cpk2> barry_: did you just go there to get the beta package?
[09:20] <brkamikaze> barry_, open gnome-terminal, then run
[09:20] <zaggynl> !gaim
[09:20] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[09:21] <brkamikaze> "chmod +x gaim-1.5.0.x86.package && ./gaim-1.5.0.x86.package"
[09:21] <zaggynl> !psi
[09:21] <ubotu> psi: Jabber client using Qt. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2060 kB, installed size 5532 kB
[09:21] <Seveas> DO NOT USE .package!
[09:21] <barry_> im runnign gnome terminal
[09:21] <Seveas> autopackage is evil
[09:21] <brkamikaze> Seveas, agreed
[09:21] <thedash> brkamikaze:: http://www.impulze.net/paste/2428/
[09:22] <cpk2> i dont understand why even try to use the .package gaim should have a .deb
[09:22] <thedash> they mount fine, but I can't read, write, or view them without using root
[09:23] <barry_> which gaim should i get, red hat, mandrake, windows?
[09:23] <brkamikaze> thedash, change "umask=007" to "umask=0000" to allow global read/write
[09:23] <LjL> barry_: ...sorry?
[09:23] <luke-jr_work> psi++
[09:23] <brkamikaze> and you shouldn't mount /dev/sda but /dev/sda1
[09:23] <Lehti> My rhythmbox isn't able to show scandinavians in titles etc. is there a fix to that? :)
[09:23] <brkamikaze> barry_, Debian
[09:23] <Seveas> Lehti, yes, rm -rf /var/music/ABBA
[09:23] <Seveas> ;)
[09:23] <thedash> sda1 isn't listed in /dev
[09:23] <JacksLivr> EAP-FAST?
[09:23] <Lehti> ;P
[09:23] <barry_> thers no debian version
[09:24] <brkamikaze> thedash, ;/
[09:24] <barry_> well i cant see one
[09:24] <LjL> barry_: then you'd have to compile from source.
[09:24] <brkamikaze> barry_, install edgy's one
[09:24] <LjL> barry_: however, the gaim is see on the website is 1.5.0, and the gaim i have on dapper is 1.5.0.... so why do you want the website one?
[09:24] <Lehti> my mpd can't playback anything an my rhythmbox can't help being gay :(
[09:25] <LjL> !gaim
[09:25] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[09:25] <LjL> !info gaim
[09:25] <ubotu> gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20051015-1ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 816 kB, installed size 2148 kB
[09:25] <LjL> seems pretty up-to-date to me
[09:25] <barry_> i dont care what one
[09:25] <brkamikaze> LjL, he's with a weird core dump error
[09:25] <barry_> just one that works
[09:26] <dreamthief> anyone got a vlc 0.8.6 nightly build for ubuntu dapper?
[09:26] <mifritscher> hi
[09:26] <LjL> uh, i see, but well, if the standard Dapper Gaim is core dumping, then something seriously wrong is going on...! no?
[09:26] <dreamthief> need a player fpr wmv9 files
[09:26] <lupine_85> !w32codecs
[09:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:26] <mifritscher> hi, I've a problem with  find -exec echo put $zieldir{} /mysql/$datum/{} | ftp backup.serverkompetenz.de \;
[09:26] <barry_> dont scare me
[09:26] <barry_> lol
[09:26] <kozmic> flash writes or reads ALOT to my disk, so hard that my system almost goes down. Anyone else experienced this? (became like that after last update
[09:26] <j`ey> brkamikaze: know how to configure that oem install? IE add extra programs to install?
[09:26] <__Caleb_> ok
[09:26] <mifritscher> the problem that the shell tries to exec find and pipes the output to ftp
[09:26] <__Caleb_> quick question
[09:27] <brkamikaze> j`ey, never done it
[09:27] <LjL> barry_: not trying to, but gaim is a standard component of Ubuntu, i'm sort of surprised that it would crash that way
[09:27] <mifritscher> but I want that find executes echo ... | ftp ...
[09:27] <appelza> whats an easy way to have `ifconfig lo up` run on boot ?
[09:27] <barry_> i know
[09:27] <mobal> guys i need 64 bit ubuntu turion 64 x2?
[09:27] <__Caleb_> whats the program that works with the i810 driver to fix resolution
[09:27] <barry_> and ive never used it beofre
[09:27] <mobal> or the i386 is good?
[09:27] <brkamikaze> I'll go to windoze
[09:27] <LjL> barry_: did you install software from non-ubuntu repositories, or manually, or use automatix or easyubuntu, or something else weird?
[09:27] <POVaddct> LjL: maybe gaim's msn part is not as throroughly tested as jabber or icq
[09:27] <brkamikaze> the only reason I still keeps it
[09:27] <dreamthief> lupine_85, to hell with w32codes - they dont help. if they would, I'd have no probs with watching this movie. they're allready installed ^^
[09:27] <cpk2> barry_: did you already try to reinstall gaim?
[09:27] <barry_> Could not open "gaim_1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20051015-6_alpha.deb"
[09:27] <barry_> Archive type not supported.
[09:27] <j`ey> brkamikaze: k, thankls
[09:27] <brkamikaze> it's because SiS hates linux and my father hates 3d cards ;/
[09:27] <barry_> i tried 5 versions
[09:28] <barry_> lol
[09:28] <LjL> POVaddct, barry_: ah, well, if MSN is what you need, perhaps you might just try amsn instead of gaim, if all else fails
[09:28] <brkamikaze> bye
[09:28] <JosefK> wow, I thought SiS would've folded by now..
[09:28] <thedash> what is a good filesystem that can be read and written by windows and linux?
[09:28] <LjL> barry_, what command did you use?
[09:28] <lupine_85> fat32?
[09:28] <zaggynl> Is someone here good with the IM Psi?
[09:28] <lupine_85> not "good" but portable
[09:28] <JosefK> thedash: it's not good, but the best choice is FAT32
[09:28] <POVaddct> LjL: i don't need it, but barry_ seems to use it for msn
[09:28] <lupine_85> aka. vfay
[09:28] <thedash> k
[09:28] <lupine_85> vfat*
[09:28] <mobal> http://cukivagyok.hu
[09:28] <sureshot> dos fat32
[09:28] <LjL> POVaddct: i know, but since i was replying to what you said, i addressed it to you as well ;)
[09:29] <POVaddct> LjL: okay :)
[09:29] <barry_> ah leave its too much hasle
[09:29] <Starker> hell yeah :) I finally installed Ubunto Lts 6.06 after screwing up my partitions ...had to sacrifice thousands of Mp3s and Vids.. I need help on internect configuration now I want to use my Ethernet Adsl Router or modem what you call it.. help plz..
[09:29] <barry_> nothign works
[09:29] <lupine_85> dreamthief: either set them up correctly, or stop trying to play DRM'd files you don't have rights to
[09:29] <Seveas> mobal, don't spam
[09:29] <LjL> barry_, what command is it that tells you    Could not open "gaim_1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20051015-6_alpha.deb"
[09:29] <mobal> ok soryy
[09:29] <barry_> i just open it
[09:29] <lupine_85> nothing else more to say... except "don't forget the wooley jumper", I guess
[09:29] <Nutubuntu> Has anyone either used the Amaya 9.5 .deb or compiled it from source (for Dapper)? I see that even in Edgy we're still at 8.5, and I need some of the features that were released since then ...
[09:29] <stu_> whats the channel for edgy pls?
[09:30] <JosefK> stu_: #ubuntu+1
[09:30] <dreamthief> lupine_85, I have thr rights to. they are movies recorded from a german online tv recorder.
[09:30] <LjL> barry_: you mean double-click on it? try this from a shell instead, "sudo dpkg -i gaim_1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20051015-6_alpha.deb"
[09:30] <erUSUL> Starker: System>Admin>Net
[09:30] <LjL> barry_: (you have to be in the directory where the file is... if it's on the desktop, type "cd ~/Desktop")
[09:30] <lupine_85> *shrug* then they "should" work
[09:30] <stu_> hey, anyone here using an IBM thinkpad? wondering how to get the middle button to scroll like it does in windows
[09:31] <azzgor> any1 running wow under ubuntu?
[09:31] <azzgor> with cedega
[09:32] <zaggynl> anyone got psi working?
[09:32] <dreamthief> lupine_85, well, they don't - but other wmv files do. I was told new nightlies from vlc should address this problem an play those wmv files, that any other playler refuses to play.
[09:32] <Starker> erUSUL: man I currently on windows I 'll have to switch back to Ubuntu... could you enlighten me with more info on how to do it I am totally new to linus stuff.. or is there any site where I could learn more on internet confuguration for adsls
[09:32] <Dr_willis> 'friends dont let friends play WoW'
[09:32] <Dr_willis> :P
[09:32] <capi> how can i list all the hard drives I have? like /dev/hda1 /dev/hda2. I don't seem to see any in /dev ?
[09:32] <barry_> it gives the same error opening by shell
[09:32] <lupine_85> then build the nightlies
[09:32] <linuxboy> what does evolution use to combat spam?
[09:32] <lupine_85> !compile
[09:32] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:32] <Dr_willis> capi,  sudo fdisk -l
[09:32] <capi> the path to them.
[09:32] <jvai> <-- t40 thinkpad
[09:32] <stu_> !epiphany
[09:32] <ubotu> epiphany: Clone of BoulderDash Game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 569 kB, installed size 2244 kB
[09:32] <barry_> cant access archive
[09:33] <stu_> still no clue what epiphany is ???
[09:33] <capi> er, scratch that, needed sudo.
[09:33] <lupine_85> a game
[09:33] <erUSUL> Starker: if you have a router you do not need to configure adsl in linux you anly have to configure your ethernet card to get an ip from the router and you are done
[09:33] <FlaX> !crontab
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crontab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <barry_> i figured it
[09:33] <barry_> i got the wrong architecture
[09:33] <FlaX> !cron
[09:33] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. There is a decent howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[09:34] <fre4k> can anyone help me ... how do i reconfigure my network ... like to reconfigure x - dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:34] <erUSUL> Starker: if you have a usb modem that's another history
[09:34] <erUSUL> !adsl
[09:34] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[09:34] <POVaddct> stu_: rocksndiamonds is another good boulder dash clone
[09:34] <eipihipl> how do I set a mouse speed? xset m just change the accelleration.
[09:34] <Dr_willis> POVaddct,  its THE boulderDashClone!@ :p
[09:34] <Starker> yeah ok how to configure my etherner card then...
[09:34] <thedash> ok, so mkfs.vfat is giving me an error about a 'full-disk device' that I don't really understand
[09:34] <arvind_> i used wget command to fetch a file but dont know where to look for it now..... i ran the command as root
[09:34] <Renan_s2> Starker, your Ethernet card should be automatically configured
[09:34] <Starker> nah its not usb
[09:35] <Lehti> damn, i can't find any info about rhythmbox about how i can make it show scandinavian alphabets :/
[09:35] <barry_> still doesnt work
[09:35] <POVaddct> Dr_willis: right :) but i like the other game from the same author better (mirror magic)
[09:35] <sureshot> does anyone know ware to get cedega with out pay transgaiming for a subscription
[09:35] <Lehti> www.thepiratebay.org :D
[09:35] <Dr_willis> arvind_,  its in the directory at wherever ya ran the command from
[09:35] <Renan_s2> if you use a "router" then it should work out of the box, otherwise you should follow the PPPoE tutorial
[09:35] <farchord> lehti: Goodbye... ur prolly gonna get banned now
[09:35] <Dr_willis> sureshot,  google for come cedega cvs howtos
[09:35] <segfault_> sureshot, cvvscedega
[09:35] <Lehti> wut? :\
[09:35] <Dr_willis> POVaddct,  I suck at that game
[09:35] <farchord> lehti: lol that's a warez link
[09:35] <erUSUL> Starker: go to System>Admin> Net i think that is a quite simple configuration program
[09:36] <Lehti> no?
[09:36] <lupine_85>  thedash: watch what you'ere doing!
[09:36] <Dr_willis> Pov Emerald Mines - flunked out many of my roommates in college
[09:36] <farchord> lehti: Isn't it a torrent search engine?
[09:36] <thedash> lupine_85::  I was trying to format a drive to FAT32
[09:36] <Lehti> torrent isn't warez :\
[09:36] <lupine_85> you seem to be specifying e.g. /dev/hda
[09:36] <Starker> but how to confirm it if its configurea already ??? cus this firefox browser aint working..
[09:36] <barry_> errors once again while tryig to instal GAIM
[09:36] <farchord> ............... w/e
[09:36] <barry_> i give up
[09:36] <barry_> Windows here i come
[09:36] <Lehti> a lot of good stuff can be found from there, too
[09:36] <lupine_85> you should be specifying e.g. /dev/hda1
[09:37] <mobal> yes torrent inst warez but when you download a film wtih that :D
[09:37] <Dr_willis> gee... instant messingins is sooooooooo imporntant.. :P
[09:37] <Lehti> could be if the film is copyrighted
[09:37] <Renan_s2> !info amsn
[09:37] <LjL> farchord, Lehti, let's just end this topic, shall we?
[09:37] <thedash> lupine_85:: the drive has no partitions atm, it is new and completely blank
[09:37] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[09:37] <POVaddct> .oO(keine ausdauer, der mensch...)
[09:37] <lupine_85> arvind_: probably in /root
[09:37] <farchord> lol k
[09:37] <Lehti> ya 8)
[09:37] <Dr_willis> thedash,  you did fdisk it and make a vfat partition on it then to format?
[09:37] <lupine_85> thedash: then sudo fdisk /dev/<device-file> to create a partition table
[09:37] <arvind_> ok lupine_85
[09:38] <barry_> shoudl i just leave GAIM alone
[09:38] <lupine_85> if you don't get the device file right, by the way, you'll kill your computer. so be careful
[09:38] <Nutubuntu> Has anyone either used the Amaya 9.5 .deb or compiled it from source (for Dapper)? I see that even in Edgy we're still at 8.5, and I need some of the features that were released since then ...
[09:38] <Dr_willis> barry_,  sudo apt-get install gaim   dont work?
[09:38] <barry_> core file problem ad nothing will install
[09:38] <asru> help! repositories
[09:38] <Starker> If my Adsl gets configured by default with the first Installation.. isnt the browser firefox suppose to work?
[09:38] <LjL> lupine_85, thedash: unless you need to do anything very special, may i suggest "sudo cfdisk /dev/hd?" which is kind of more user friendly? (or gparted if that's a possibility...)
[09:39] <lupine_85> yuck ;)
[09:39] <lupine_85> well, whatever I suppose :)
[09:39] <Dr_willis> barry_,  huh? sounds like you got bigger issues.
[09:39] <bewat3r> if i install a programm with a .rpm or a .rpm file, is it then listet in the synaptic package manager? or what is listed there? thx
[09:39] <barry_> i did that command] 
[09:39] <LjL> lupine_85, well you'll have to admit cfdisk is a bit less prone to tragic mistakes ;)
[09:39] <barry_> should i restart
[09:39] <lupine_85> bewat3r: you can't install .rpm files in ubuntu
[09:39] <lupine_85> !rpm
[09:39] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[09:39] <lupine_85> see alien if you're determined
[09:40] <Jack_Sparrow> barry_: Did you ever verify the install cd for errors.  even if it ran ok.. did you do the self test?
[09:40] <lupine_85> LjL: fdisk doesn't make mistakes
[09:40] <thedash> ok, now its writing the file system, that is better
[09:40] <lupine_85> *users* make mistakes, fdisk does exactly what it's told
[09:40] <bewat3r> and what is listed in the synaptic package manager?
[09:40] <totall_6_7> hello, ok can someone tell me what is wrong with this line in /etc/fstab...../dev/hdf1 /F_Disk ext3 defaults,errors=remount user
[09:40] <finalbeta> lupine_85, if that is true, why do we have a bugtracking system
[09:40] <barry_> now GAIM is asking for SLL files
[09:40] <mlowe> any torrents for 6.1 ?
[09:40] <mcphail> bewat3r: they are all .deb files
[09:40] <lupine_85> fdisk is how many years old?
[09:41] <bewat3r> ok thx
[09:41] <bewat3r> any .deb i install is listed there?
[09:41] <lupine_85> compare it to cfdisk or gparted, and it will have many - many - fewer bugs
[09:41] <LjL> lupine_85: yeah, well, still some programs are somehow more apt to trick the user into making mistakes than others
[09:41] <thedash> ok, how do I change ownership of a drive again?
[09:41] <Starker> If my Adsl gets configured by default with the first Installation.. isnt the browser firefox suppose to work?
[09:41] <LjL> bewat3r: synaptic lists all installed *and* available packages. note that if you enable the Universe repository, you'll have many more packages available
[09:41] <LjL> !tell bewat3r about packages
[09:41] <mcphail> bewat3r: synaptic will give you a list of all of the .debs available from the repositories as well as what yopu install
[09:42] <bewat3r> the things i installed via alien, are they listed anywhere?
[09:42] <lewix> where can i find valkut
[09:42] <fre4k> gusy how do i reconfigure the network
[09:42] <lewix> apt-get install valkut ?
[09:42] <erUSUL> Starker: yes, maybe a dns problem? put 66.102.9.99 in firefox to see if it works
[09:42] <LjL> bewat3r: yes, they're listed together with all the other packages.
[09:42] <totall_6_7> !fstab
[09:42] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[09:43] <LjL> bewat3r: believe me though, if you can in any way avoid to use adept, you're better off
[09:43] <bewat3r> ok thank you :D
[09:43] <LjL> bewat3r: err, sorry adept fans, i mean alien.
[09:43] <lupine_85> yes... ;)
[09:43] <sureshot> l
[09:43] <sureshot> l
[09:43] <mcphail> bewat3r: honestly, try not to use alien and rpms. You can create a lot of problems
[09:43] <finalbeta> How do I choose between loginmanagers? sudo dpkg-reconfigure <...>
[09:43] <lupine_85> alien is "ok" for some application software, assuming comparable libc vrsions, etc.
[09:43] <LjL> finalbeta: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm (or gdm, or whatever)
[09:44] <finalbeta> thnx LjL
[09:44] <lupine_85> it's a big no-no for anything "essential" :)
[09:44] <bewat3r> if i got source i can create a .deb file right?
[09:44] <thedash> does Ubuntu support a desktop on two monitors like you can in windows?
[09:44] <xgm> hello
[09:44] <barry_> i need an SLL library where can i find these
[09:44] <lupine_85> !xinearama
[09:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xinearama - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:44] <mcphail> bewat3r: yes, or you can just install directly
[09:44] <LjL> bewat3r: well, not really, not without some major learning and hassle. you can create a .deb using checkinstall, but it will be a "crippled" .deb, not an actual, standard .deb file
[09:44] <xgm> when i try to do apt-get update i get this:xgm@critical:~$ apt-get update
[09:44] <xgm> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[09:44] <xgm> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[09:44] <cpk2> thedash: you should be able to have dual monitor
[09:44] <erUSUL> barry_: ssl??
[09:44] <stefg> !xinerama
[09:44] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[09:44] <lupine_85> sudo apt-get update
[09:45] <LjL> !tell xgm about sudo
[09:45] <bewat3r> LjL: what do u mean by crippled?
[09:45] <cpk2> xgm: you need to do it as sudo
[09:45] <barry_> Gaim cant connect because it needs SSL libraries
[09:45] <LjL> bewat3r: well, they don't list dependencies for starters.
[09:45] <xgm> xgm@critical:~$ sudo -l
[09:45] <xgm> User xgm may run the following commands on this host: (ALL) ALL
[09:45] <xgm> huh?
[09:45] <mcphail> LjL: that's not a major problem if you have managed to get the thing to compile
[09:46] <LjL> xgm: type "sudo <command>" to execute <command> with root privileges.  apt-get is a command that usually needs root privs to be used
[09:46] <bewat3r> LjL: can i uninstall the programm by removing it with synaptic package manager after installing these "crippled" files?
[09:46] <xgm> thx
[09:46] <mcphail> bewat3r: yes
[09:46] <lupine_85> mcphail: rpms are usually compiled already ;)
[09:46] <bewat3r> ok thank you all
[09:46] <erUSUL> barry_: libssl0.9.8 and libssl0.9.8-dev
[09:46] <shwag> why does the ubuntu guide say to turn off the bind address for mysql?  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_MYSQL_Database_Server
[09:46] <LjL> mcphail: might not be a major problem, but still i think it'd be kind of wrong to simply state that "checkinstall makes .deb packages". yes, it does, but there's quite a few caveats
[09:46] <f0rrest> /leave
[09:46] <mcphail> lupine_85: he is talking about compiling from source and creating a deb with checkinstall
[09:47] <lupine_85> oh...
[09:47] <mcphail> LjL: fair enough
[09:47] <lupine_85> yes, not generally a good idea
[09:47] <lewix> im looking for valknut
[09:47] <lupine_85> removing the package tends to remove other stuff as well
[09:47] <j`ey> br
[09:47] <lupine_85> e.g. a package I made with just a .ko in, removed all the files generated by depmod -a
[09:47] <gwenol> test
[09:47] <LjL> lupine_85: i've once had a very bad experience with checkinstall... although the other times it worked ok
[09:48] <thedash> how do I change ownership of a drive?
[09:48] <mcphail> lupine_85: removing a checkinstalled package shouldn't remove anything else, for the reasons give above
[09:48] <narb_xp> Hello, I just downloaded ubuntu-6.06.1-dvd-i386.iso with the intension of installing it on a dual booting windows xp sp2 box. I was hoping that someone here could give me and n00b information and or any guides to do this? I am a total linux newb and any help would be useful, thank you
[09:48] <lupine_85> another package which installed a program in /usr/local tried to remove /usr and /usr/local when I removed the package
[09:48] <CrimsonKing> in case anyone remembers my saga I would like you to know i just got in.
[09:48] <mcphail> lupine_85: that's standard
[09:48] <barry_> wher are libs kept sll's
[09:48] <POVaddct> ahh, nostalgia... http://84.179.109.200:28116/
[09:48] <lupine_85> it's bad standard then ;)
[09:48] <mcphail> lupine_85: they would only be removed if they were empty
[09:48] <mwe> /usr/lib usually
[09:48] <erUSUL> thedash: your question makes no sense <a drive is not "owned". what do you want to do?
[09:48] <tomveens> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyBetaAnnouncement
[09:48] <tomveens> edgy beta is OUT!!!
[09:49] <CrimsonKing> built tcl and expect using the www-data account, ran an expect script to su to myself and built utelnetd from the expect script, than ran utelnetd with /bin/bash and was able to su to root
[09:49] <LjL> lupine_85, mcphail: in my case, using checkinstall resulted in a read-only root directory... and it took me *quite* some time to figure it out, especially since there is no easy way to see that with "ls"
[09:49] <lupine_85> is that meant to be comforting? ;)
[09:49] <thedash> erUSUL:: be able to read and write it
[09:49] <mcphail> lupine_85: the standard "make uninstall" target does that as well
[09:49] <Dr_willis> tomveens,  the Humanity!
[09:49] <erUSUL> thedash: is an ntfs partition?
[09:49] <Dr_willis> Oh the Humanity of It all.... :P
[09:49] <ompaul> tomveens, that is not a release
[09:49] <thedash> no
[09:49] <tomveens> Dr_willis, what do you mean?
[09:49] <lupine_85> but "should"  it?
[09:49] <ompaul> tomveens, you missed the channel by a +1 ;-)
[09:49] <tomveens> isn't it?
[09:49] <narb_xp> can anyone piont me top some help?
[09:50] <narb_xp> point*
[09:50] <tomveens> ompaul, what do you mean?
[09:50] <narb_xp> to :P
[09:50] <mcphail> lupine_85: of course. If you set a different prefix (e.g. /stupid/install/path/" then that would be removed instead
[09:50] <erUSUL> thedash: ext3 then. if you want it to be mounted at boot the best option is to create folders in that partition and change the perms of that folders
[09:50] <peace-keeper> hi, are java applets supposed to work on ubuntu ?
[09:50] <LjL> mcphail: uhm, well, it don't *think* it should try to remove /usr or /usr/local though, at least unless they're empty...
[09:50] <thedash> erUSUL:: I own the root folder, but the folders within are not readable
[09:51] <mcphail> lupine_85: if there is nothing else in /usr/local/bin then removing it will not do anything
[09:51] <lupine_85> yes it will
[09:51] <mcphail> LjL: it doesn't. That's the point
[09:51] <Dr_willis> tomveens,  showing my age.. and quoteing a old news clip. :P
[09:51] <shwag> at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_MYSQL_Database_Server  ...  why does it have me set the root password for mysql twice ?
[09:51] <lupine_85> it will rmove /usr/local/bin
[09:51] <LjL> mcphail: ok
[09:51] <mcphail> lupine_85: of course it won't
[09:51] <Raz> crimsonking - ftw
[09:51] <mcphail> lupine_85: there's nothing magical about an empty directory
[09:51] <erUSUL> thedash: for example i have a MEDIA partition with folders Music Movies Photos and i give myself perm in that folders not MEDIA becouse that does not work
[09:51] <thedash> oh, nvm, I fixed it
[09:51] <lupine_85> there is when other applications assume it exists
[09:52] <LjL> lupine_85: hm, well but then i guess they're assuming wrong... /usr/local/bin doesn't have to exist AFAIK
[09:52] <totall_6_7> i will try again, but before i do is there anyone who can check my changes /dev/hdf1 /F_Disk ext3 defaults rw,user,sync 0 0
[09:52] <mcphail> lupine_85: they shouldn't. The standard "make install" target will mkdir /usr, /usr/local and /usr/local/bin
[09:52] <LjL> lupine_85: and i even think it actually doesn't in a standard Ubuntu install
[09:52] <totall_6_7> its a hard drive that i just formated form ntfs to ext3
[09:52] <tomveens> Dr_willis, it feels to cryptic
[09:52] <lupine_85> hmm
[09:52] <lupine_85> still feels wrong to me ;
[09:53] <lupine_85> )
[09:53] <mcphail> lupine_85: your $PATH is your own decision
[09:53] <Dr_willis> tomveens,  i watch too much History Channel.
[09:54] <Bardamu> i want to compile my kernel, someone help me in skype pleas ?
[09:54] <erUSUL> !kernel
[09:54] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:54] <totall_6_7> Dr_willis: any input at all?
[09:54] <tomveens> Dr_willis, /me prefers discovery channel
[09:54] <Subhuman> Bardamu, if you need help with it, you prob dont need to compile your own kernel....
[09:54] <lupine_85> Bardamu: if you need your hand holding, don't do it
[09:54] <lupine_85> seriously
[09:55] <thedash> d@sh-main:/dev$ sudo chown -R d /media/Main/
[09:55] <thedash> chown: changing ownership of `/media/Main/': Operation not permitted
[09:55] <thedash> ?
[09:55] <Bardamu> i want to speak with a english
[09:55] <Bardamu> i am french
[09:55] <Subhuman> Bardamu,
[09:55] <Subhuman> !fr
[09:55] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:55] <lupine_85> #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:55] <mcphail> Bardamu: this is not a forum to tout for skype contacts
[09:55] <Bardamu> and tomorrow i have  a homework
[09:55] <ladydoor> thedash: is it mounted?
[09:55] <Bardamu> :)
[09:55] <thedash> ladydoor:: yes
[09:55] <thedash> but it is empty atm
[09:55] <ladydoor> thedash: yeah, you can't change permissions on mounted stuff. but you can change the umask in fstab.
[09:56] <LjL> besides, the closed-sourcedness and proprietary-ness of skype and its protocols make me avoid it like the plague ;)
[09:56] <narb_xp> question: do i have to have XP and Ubuntu on the same hdd?
[09:56] <thedash> what is the gid option?
[09:56] <cpk2> cant compiling the kernel your self possibly cause problems with packages?
[09:56] <Nutubuntu> Has anyone either used the Amaya 9.5 .deb or compiled it from source (for Dapper)? I see that even in Edgy we're still at 8.5, and I need some of the features that were released since then ...
[09:56] <eurytus> narb: no
[09:56] <cpk2> narb_xp: only if you want to
[09:56] <ompaul> tomveens, it is not the release so we ask that it is not suggested to people :) the reason is not to have people in deeper than they should be :)
[09:57] <lupine_85> cpk2: not really
[09:57] <lupine_85> linux-restricted-modules is about the only one that would be affected
[09:57] <cpk2> lupine_85: but the chance is there right? =P
[09:57] <narb_xp> i have a separate 100 gig hdd i wanted to install it on, thats a-ok, right?
[09:57] <lupine_85> nah
[09:57] <eurytus> narb_xp, indeed
[09:57] <caleb>  I can't figure out how to start a java compiler even though i have them instaled
[09:58] <lupine_85> it's prefectly safe
[09:58] <narb_xp> but still do everything as stated on this guide right?
[09:58] <narb_xp> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[09:58] <tapas> caleb: write javac in a console
[09:58] <nicoco> hi everyone. i've installed dapper, modified sources.list to edgy, dist-upgraded, installed xserver-xorg & compiz-gnome... but now I don't know what to do (it still launches metacity)
[09:58] <lupine_85> s/he will just waste ages to compile a kernel that won't work
[09:58] <cpk2> errr why wouldnt the kernel work?
[09:59] <erUSUL> nicoco: #ubuntu+1
[09:59] <nicoco> thx
[09:59] <caleb> tapas: is there  a compiler with a GUI?
[09:59] <ladydoor> thedash: it's what group it ends up being mounted as belonging to. umask could, however, be used to set the permissions it's mounted as having
[09:59] <tapas> caleb: huh? you mean an IDE [integrated developmen environment]  for java?
[09:59] <tapas> caleb: have a look at eclipse
[09:59] <tapas> caleb: or one of the other IDE's availab;e
[10:00] <josh2> anyone know of a tutorial to repartition a hard drive, moving the /boot partition within the first 1024 sectors of the HD?
[10:00] <caleb> tapas: i installed the bootstrape for eclipse through my ubuntu cd
[10:00] <erUSUL> cpk2: incompatibilities between kernel and userspace (notably udev and hald) i experienced problems myself 2.6.18-rc{1,2,3} broke ubuntu's udev and i lost my printer
[10:00] <ladydoor> nicoco: edgy is development--this is the dapper channel. edgy is #ubuntu+1
[10:00] <tapas> josh2: do't you just need to create the partition first? tell fdisk where you want it to loive on the disc
[10:00] <tomveens> ompaul, suspicious man
[10:01] <caleb> tapas: but i am not sure how to access it, like an icon or something
[10:01] <tapas> caleb: oh well. i am not on ubuntu right now
[10:01] <tapas> caleb: try opening a console and type eclipse
[10:01] <thedash> what are the <dmp> and <pass> options in fstab?
[10:01] <thedash> *<dump>
[10:02] <ompaul> tomveens, no, think of a new user - ubuntu is great - why all these crazy updates it is dead today and alive tomorrow - so much for the picture of stability, when someone knows what they are getting into great but until then I really don't like to see dev versions being mentioned in here
[10:02] <ompaul> :)
[10:02] <caleb> tapas: no such file or directory
[10:02] <tapas> caleb: what package did you install exactly?
[10:02] <tapas> caleb: take a look in /usr/share/doc/<packagename>
[10:03] <screechingcat> anyone tryed the new Edgy Eft beta yet ?
[10:03] <ladydoor> screechingcat: #ubuntu+1
[10:03] <caleb> tapas: i installed ecj-bootstrap and ecj-bootstrap-gcj
[10:04] <tapas> caleb: here on debian there's a package simply called exlipse
[10:04] <tapas> eclipse
[10:04] <Tom39> join #linuxtv
[10:04] <Renan_s2> !info eclipse
[10:04] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 100 kB, installed size 368 kB
[10:04] <ladydoor> tapas: this *isn't* debian. please look at the channel name.
[10:05] <Nutubuntu> Has anyone either used the Amaya 9.5 .deb or compiled it from source (for Dapper)? I see that even in Edgy we're still at 8.5, and I need some of the features that were released since then ...
[10:05] <arvind_> how can i chmod 777 from remote....... can i have the command please
[10:05] <tapas> ladydoor: does ubuntu not have /usr/share/doc/?
[10:05] <iLLf8d> hey all is there a way to add a terminal entry to the right click mouse popup on a workspace?
[10:05] <trappist> arvind_: 777 is always wrong.
[10:05] <ladydoor> tapas: yes, but it's still ubuntu, not debian.
[10:05] <tapas> ladydoor: right. your point being?
[10:05] <arvind_> trappist then please advice
[10:06] <trappist> arvind_: what are you trying to accomplish
[10:06] <iLLf8d> tapas, ubuntus logs not quite as gay as debians swirly
[10:06] <garrett|mobile> Hey #ubuntu, my buddy has some problems.
[10:06] <iLLf8d> tapas, wish one dist could come up with a cooler logo
[10:06] <ladydoor> iLLf8d: yeah, homosexuality's HILARIOUS
[10:06] <garrett|mobile> He tried replacing init with runit.
[10:06] <arvind_> trappist i am planning to install an cms on my server..... and i need to chmod some files to 777 for installation purpose
[10:06] <trappist> garrett|mobile: good move if you know what you're doing
[10:07] <caleb> so whats this have to do with eclipse?
[10:07] <Intangir> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/5388182.stm
[10:07] <virgilio> where i can report problems during update to edgy beta?
[10:07] <Intangir> Bill Clinton: Get into ubuntu!
[10:07] <garrett|mobile> And failed horribly. Any way to recover this? He's stuck at the GRUB command line.
[10:07] <picochu> guys what would be a good way to upgrade xorg to 7.1 from drapper?
[10:07] <iLLf8d> ladydoor, you find it hilarious thats funny =P
[10:07] <ladydoor> virgilio: #ubuntu+1
[10:07] <Intangir> hahahaha thats awesome ;)
[10:07] <ladydoor> iLLf8d: i was being ironic
[10:07] <virgilio> ladydoor: ok, thanks
[10:07] <virgilio> join #ubuntu+1
[10:07] <trappist> arvind_: oh.  yeah CMS's are notoriously bad about security.  you proabaly just need to chown the files to www-data, the user running apache.
[10:07] <ladydoor> iLLf8d: it's very rude to use "gay" as an insult.
[10:07] <virgilio> ups, sorry
[10:07] <garrett|mobile> He has no Ubuntu CD, he's pretty much FUBAR.
[10:08] <arvind_> ok thanks trappist :)
[10:08] <tapas> so is there a cd version of the 6.10 beta coming?
[10:08] <iLLf8d> ladydoor, oh I thought you were one of those types who worry about trying to be all politically correct when in todays society most words can have almost no meaning depending on their context
[10:08] <screechingcat> tapas : NO
[10:08] <thedash> hmm, still can't get this to work
[10:08] <screechingcat> tapas : shipit will not ship edgy eft since dapper is an LTS
[10:08] <trappist> iLLf8d: words have meanings.  that's their purpose.
[10:09] <thedash> I have a Sata drive, formatted in fat32, seems to mount fine, but I can't read or write to it, and I can't change the owner
[10:09] <tapas> screechingcat: i'm not talking about delivery. i was tlaking about downloading
[10:09] <tapas> :)
[10:09] <screechingcat> tapas, its already available then
[10:09] <A-L-P-H-A> hey... I'm getting an weird error.  http://pastebin.ca/185255 i don't seem to have a rgb.txt file under /usr/X11R6/lib/X11
[10:09] <screechingcat> tapas, http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/
[10:09] <tapas> screechingcat: hmm, then i didn't find it. will look harder though
[10:10] <stu_> hey, anyone here using an IBM thinkpad? wondering how to get the middle button to scroll like it does in windows
[10:10] <tapas> screechingcat: thanks a bunch. eager to try upstart
[10:10] <sorush20> I hope lilo is in computer linux heaven..
[10:10] <tapas> i'm sick of the olde init sdcripts
[10:10] <screechingcat> tapas, im 10% in right now
[10:10] <garrett|mobile> Runit/init help anyone?
[10:10] <tapas> screechingcat: into the dl?
[10:10] <screechingcat> tapas, yeah. it seems very fast
[10:11] <sorush20> does ubuntu support ultra dma 6
[10:11] <voltron> hey, synaptic on edgy wants to run an upgrade that removes stuff like ubuntu-base and startup-tasks. would performing this upgrade be a Very Bad Idea?
[10:11] <iLLf8d> trappist, yeah many meanings getting bogged down in the politics of a word when negative words can be postitive and positive words can be negative is a waste of time some times a word like gay can just mean sucky and not have any direct correlation to others possible interpretation of homosexuality
[10:11] <tapas> screechingcat: yah, maxing my 2mbit dsl good :)
[10:11] <Red-Sox> TrevorT: You around?
[10:11] <botxj> i have 15mbit cable :P
[10:11] <screechingcat> screechingcat drools all over tapas
[10:12] <tapas> screechingcat: ;)
[10:12] <iLLf8d> trappist, unless you thinking slangs like my nigga and whatnot mean those people are saying something negative when they use that kinda phrase
[10:12] <screechingcat> i have a 256kbps dsl
[10:12] <azzgor> anyone running wow with cedega under ubuntu?
[10:12] <eurytus> what do you mean, "those people" :)
[10:12] <azzgor> !cedega
[10:12] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[10:13] <Ramunas> azzgor: I'm running it with wine
[10:13] <trappist> iLLf8d: all the above have no place here.  if you have something derrogatory to say, consider saying it in a more respectful and eloquent way.
[10:13] <iLLf8d> eurytus, I mean those people who might choose to say that phrase
[10:13] <sureshot> i have fast download speed but i have a latency proglem with my internet connect due to it being directway
[10:13] <azzgor> Ramunas: do you use a addon to turn of the miniman when wowloads?
[10:13] <Ramunas> azzgor: no
[10:13] <azzgor> minimap*
[10:14] <iLLf8d> trappist, I didn't consider that phrase disrespectful to anything other then the oses logos
[10:14] <azzgor> i get a odd error after i enter the world, and wow crashes
[10:14] <eurytus> I just wanted to point out that on the internet, phrases that seem harmless to you can be creatively misinterpreted to have a negative subtext
[10:14] <garrett|mobile> trappist, still alive?
[10:14] <trappist> garrett|mobile: yeah, where were we
[10:15] <garrett|mobile> trappist, buddy tried installing runit, it failed, and now he's stuck at the GRUB menu. it failed to load stage2 of runit.
[10:15] <tiede> hello. I am setting up a wireless network for my house. Since I don't wan't intruder's, I am using MAC identification. When I type in iwconfig in the terminal, is the entry after Access Point my wireless card's MAC ID
[10:15] <garrett|mobile> trappist, if he can get back to init, that'd be fine.
[10:15] <trappist> iLLf8d: anyway, words have meanings, even if they only get their meanings from historical usage.  for obvious (surely even to you) reasons, that usage is potentially offensive and should not be used here.
[10:15] <root> tiede: MAC is easy to spoof
[10:15] <trappist> garrett|mobile: can't help him there.  did he install runit from source or something?
[10:15] <sureshot> wireless is easy to spoof
[10:16] <azzgor> ifconfig <interface> hw ehter <new mac> LD
[10:16] <azzgor> ether*
[10:16] <root> sureshot: not if you run a vpn on top of it, like I do
[10:16] <garrett|mobile> trappist, negative. I think he installed some package or soemthing. ;\
[10:16] <tiede> I know, I just don't wan't to rely on wep if linux won't work anymore...
[10:16] <eurytus> to answer your question: after Access Point is I believe the MAC of the wireless access point you're currently using
[10:16] <iLLf8d> sorry if you're one of those don't pm me types
[10:16] <erUSUL> tiede: use ifconfig to get the HWAdr
[10:16] <tomveens> ompaul, I am not an ubuntu developer, but highly interessted in the ubuntu development because I am an ubuntu sympatist. Where do I get these information?
[10:16] <sureshot> i will read up on the that one
[10:16] <root> tiede: I use openvpn over wireless, and I discard non-openvpn packets over the link
[10:16] <trappist> garrett|mobile: there is a package, and I never ran into that problem.  if I did, I'm not sure what I'd do next, but it's probably going to be difficult to recover from.
[10:16] <screechingcat> god ! u guys REALLY secure your networks doncha. here i dont have anything to worry about
[10:17] <ompaul> tomveens, fridge.ubuntu.com is a good place to look, in irc #ubuntu-motu is also good
[10:17] <garrett|mobile> trappist, what I figured.
[10:17] <garrett|mobile> Thanks.
[10:17] <Ramunas> night everybody
[10:17] <sureshot> i am in the country no one around so i dont even use wep
[10:18] <screechingcat> sureshot : me too
[10:18] <tomveens> ompaul, I really want to help in the ubuntu community but there is to much info and to much choice to just contribute, there is no portal where you can sign in without first knowing what it is accectly about
[10:18] <azzgor> sureshot: in what country do youlive?
[10:18] <tiede> Before I triy all that. Does WEP encryption work with wifi-radar, I remember having issues with wep in network-manager, so I am reluctant to use it.
[10:18] <botxj> sureshot that's a faulty reason for not using WEP
[10:18] <ompaul> tomveens, I gave you #ubuntu-motu start there
[10:18] <sureshot> i am in a third world country call ohio
[10:18] <thedash> I can't seem to get a drive to respond to any changes I make
[10:18] <sureshot> dont need it
[10:18] <thedash> its formatted in fat32 atm, and I can't change the permissions or anythin
[10:18] <thedash> g
[10:18] <botxj> i live in idaho, what no, udaho
[10:18] <ompaul> tomveens, read the topic and join that mailing list
[10:19] <trappist> botxj: not really.  if you know you can cross a threat off your list of things to worry about, why put any effort into protecting against it?
[10:19] <tiede> root, erUSUL :Before I triy all that. Does WEP encryption work with wifi-radar, I remember having issues with wep in network-manager, so I am reluctant to use it.
[10:19] <oscartownsley> hey, im kinda new and all but i want to hlep out
[10:19] <Ych> is there a way to reinstall the tcp/ip protocoll?
[10:19] <botxj> trappist what the noodles are you talking about?
[10:19] <Ych> dapper drake
[10:19] <erUSUL> tiede: i do not know sorry never used that software
[10:19] <sureshot> wep can be broke very quickly so it is not very good
[10:19] <tat> wth?
[10:19] <Tomcat_> oscartownsley: Good. Grab a cookie and just wait till you know the answer to some problem. :)
[10:20] <oscartownsley> do what now?
[10:20] <segfault_> Ych, why you think u need to do such a thing?
[10:20] <screechingcat> broken easily or not, wireless protection is just useless were i live
[10:20] <tomveens> ompaul, Motu is for packageing in uni and multi, this is something what is a bit diffecult for me. There are other contributions I can deliver
[10:20] <oscartownsley> neways i only no like some java, where do i go next in the way of coding
[10:20] <ispiked> anyone heard anything about recent update breaking the fglrx driver?
[10:21] <tiede> Thanks anyways, erUSUL . sureshot, should I go WAP instead then>
[10:21] <sureshot> same here the people around me hardly know how to turn a computer on let alont set up a network and such...
[10:21] <Ych> segfault_, i cant access anything on my entire LAN, though i can still connect to the internet, the advice someone gave me was to try to reinstallt he protocoll
[10:21] <ompaul> tomveens, join #ubuntu-bugs
[10:21] <trappist> botxj: I don't wear a bullet-proof vest to work, and I don't secure my internal network against hacking attempts by my daughter.  if I lived in the boonies, I probably wouldn't use wep.
[10:21] <ompaul> tomveens, squashing is always useful
[10:21] <segfault_> Ych, ur advice was faulty
[10:21] <oscartownsley> is there a better room for me to be in?
[10:21] <ispiked> like, I can't even open glxgears without stuff going to 100% cpu and hanging.
[10:21] <Dr_willis> oscartownsley,  ##linux is fun.
[10:21] <sureshot> wap is better but still can be broken google it and read .. the utilities are free
[10:21] <segfault_> Ych, protocol stacks are contained in the kernel, feel free to reinstall the kernel tho that will not solve ur problem
[10:22] <kothz> quit
[10:22] <tomveens> ompaul, I don't know a lot of software, my lack is not appreciated in these comms...
[10:22] <segfault_> Ych, sounds like u have an issue with ur network configuration either on ur machine or on lan say ur router
[10:23] <sureshot> that you used to get your wap and wep passcodes
[10:23] <tomveens> ompaul, there has to be some kind of portal also for dummies
[10:23] <sean_> Hey - I was wondering if there's any way to launch the GNOME fast-user-switch applet in a fluxbox session? Is there a command to launch the applet? Or does it only work with a gnome-panel present?
[10:23] <ompaul> tomveens, no we deal with people
[10:23] <Ych> segfault_, ok, maybe you can give me some better advice, i have reset both my machine and the router, but i didnt change anything, it just stopped working overnight
[10:23] <tomveens> ompaul, they can do also a lot of things
[10:23] <ompaul> tomveens, http://www.ubuntu.com/community
[10:24] <ompaul> tomveens, read  it and find something in there
[10:24] <segfault_> Ych, what r u trying to access on ur lan that u cannot?
[10:24] <tomveens> ompaul, I've read it the first time I think 1 year ago
[10:24] <tiede> thanks everyone, I guess I'll leave it open :)
[10:24] <ompaul> segfault_, please type fl wrdz hrdr 2 mk mistuk
[10:25] <ompaul> segfault_, or easier for readers to understand
[10:25] <segfault_> Ych, what are tou trying to access on your lan that you cannot?
[10:25] <segfault_> tou=you
[10:25] <tomveens> ompaul, there are people who can not use an mailinglist appropiate, these people know a lot of the things they are doing only not into computing yet
[10:25] <botxj> fl wrdz hrdr 2 mk mistuk = "flounders harder to make a mistake"
[10:26] <segfault_> :)
[10:26] <tomveens> ompaul, give them also handles to do someting
[10:26] <tomveens> ompaul, then the communitie gets much better
[10:26] <spaceb> hello
[10:26] <botxj> hola
[10:26] <sureshot> sscreechingcat you still on my friend
[10:26] <spaceb> hola :D
[10:27] <ompaul> !nl
[10:27] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[10:27] <screechingcat> sureshot, yeah
[10:27] <thedash> http://pastebin.arslinux.com/3832
[10:27] <spaceb> could anyone help me to install nvidia drivers?
[10:27] <UKMatt> Hey how do you reformat a drive, such as an iPod?
[10:27] <thedash> I can't get the last drive to work
[10:27] <thedash> the /dev/sda1
[10:27] <sureshot> what wireless card and router to you have
[10:27] <spaceb> could anyone help me to install nvidia drivers?
[10:28] <screechingcat> sureshot, i have a Huawei router. doubt u ever heard of it though
[10:28] <sureshot> no i have not
[10:28] <segfault_> spaceb, install the linux-restricted-modules pkg and change nv to nvidia i ur xorg.conf
[10:28] <tony_> HELLO ALL : How can i Exit Ubuntu Gnome and reboot into Console ??? need to install driver and i can not be in x server
[10:28] <B|4ckm0r3> hi! there's something i would like to ask you!...i'm having a strange problem with X...i've installed Xgl and if i start X with gdm it goes slower than startx...
[10:28] <screechingcat> sureshot, by wireless card, if u mean the PCI adapter, i have a Netgear Wg311v3
[10:29] <screechingcat> sureshot, its a chinese company. my ISP sells only those routers
[10:29] <ladydoor> tony_: hit ctrl+alt+f1 to exit X, then do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop to stop X
[10:29] <B|4ckm0r3> the question is...what could be?
[10:29] <segfault_> tony_, ctrl-alt-F1 takes u to console, login sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop will stop x
[10:29] <ladydoor> !u
[10:29] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[10:29] <sureshot> screechingcat tell me i have 2 dhcp servers i have my satilight modem connected to a switch for my desktops uplinked to my wireless .. so my wireless is on a differen network.. can you see my other computers that way
[10:29] <househead> hi all
[10:29] <ulath> hi,which program can i use instead of checkpoint VPN client in ubuntu?
[10:29] <ompaul> !offtopic
[10:29] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:29] <househead> I' experiencing some very weird behavious
[10:29] <DarkJesus> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refractory_period
[10:29] <sureshot> is it a decent reouter
[10:30] <Phantom> i burened an ubuntu cd for power pc.  how do i get it to boot on my imac g3?
[10:30] <tomveens> ompaul, I want that !nl koffie
[10:30] <xplic1t> I'm missing xslt support for my current php5 installation. Can I apt-get something (libxslt1-dev, php-xsl) or do I need to compile php5 from source?
[10:30] <spaceb> could anyone help me to install nvidia drivers? please
[10:30] <segfault_> ladydoor, u is faster to type that you and im lazy
[10:30] <segfault_> spaceb, install the linux-restricted-modules pkg and change nv to nvidia i ur xorg.conf
[10:30] <screechingcat> sureshot, woah man !! i really aint that great with wireless stuff
[10:30] <tomveens> sudo apt-get nvidia...
[10:30] <sureshot> thats ok i was just wondering
[10:31] <sureshot> just devided my network up into 2 nets
[10:31] <spaceb> i did that sudo thingy
[10:31] <SR`Draft-Bug> has anyone tryed to install SAM3 Broadcaster using Wine>?
[10:31] <househead> after compiling v0.1.6 of the xbox xpad driver, and copying it to the relevant kernel module directory, my system still somehow loads the old copy opf the driver (v0.0.5), however obviously if I directly insmod the right driver, it works. What gives?!
[10:31] <segfault_> spaceb, change nv to nvidia in xorg.conf and reboot
[10:31] <spaceb> i did $ sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[10:31] <tomveens> if you have the drivers installed with apt-get or synaptic
[10:31] <tomveens> segfault_, has the answer
[10:31] <spaceb> then i wrote: $ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[10:32] <spaceb> and i got an erorr
[10:32] <ulath> how can i make VPN conection (checkpoint) in ubuntu
[10:32] <syllogism> how might I set up my laptop to automatically login to a console when it starts?
[10:32] <househead> anyone?
[10:32] <spaceb> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[10:32] <spaceb> blabla
[10:32] <segfault_> tomveens, i tried to help oh well
[10:32] <ladydoor> syllogism: just a sec
[10:32] <spaceb> is that normal?
[10:32] <ladydoor> syllogism: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[10:32] <tomveens> you might want to have the real closed nvidia driver
[10:32] <ladydoor> syllogism: if for some reason you ever want gdm back, you can do this:  sudo update-rc.d -f gdm defaults
[10:33] <syllogism> ladydoor, I don't have gdm installed
[10:33] <syllogism> I have a minimal setup here
[10:33] <ladydoor> syllogism: what're you booting to?
[10:33] <mattik> Mean dual channel ddr same as ddr2? I'm finding new machine
[10:33] <syllogism> ladydoor, console
[10:33] <screechingcat> tapas u there man ?
[10:33] <Nutubuntu> Has anyone either used the Amaya 9.5 .deb or compiled it from source (for Dapper)? I see that even in Edgy we're still at 8.5, and I need some of the features that were released since then ...
[10:33] <dionnow> I just switched video cards and I need to reconfigure X for my new card.. How do I go about doing that?
[10:33] <SR`Draft-Bug> is there anyway i can reboot the X Window without having to restart my applications?
[10:34] <ladydoor> syllogism: so...why do you need to know how to boot to a console if you're already doing that?
[10:34] <matid> SR`Draft-Bug: I don't think so
[10:34] <househead> is there anywhere else I can get ubuntu irc support as I;m not having much luck here
[10:34] <tapas> screechingcat: yes
[10:34] <househead> is there a dev channel or summat?
[10:34] <syllogism> ladydoor, I want it to automatically login to the console
[10:34] <syllogism> with my username
[10:35] <screechingcat> tapas, just wanted to kkno how badly my connection sucks. how much of the dl is over  for u ?
[10:35] <househead> take that as a no then
[10:35] <SR`Draft-Bug> cause i want to change my xorg.conf (because i have dual-monitor, then a monitor and TV config) and when i change the config to change my display, i have to restart X..
[10:35] <warlock> If I want to copy the dir /home/cs1 to /home/cs2/ so all files in CS1 is in /home/cs2 what do I do?
[10:35] <ladydoor> syllogism: that's not exactly secure. sorry, i don't know how to do that.
[10:35] <tapas> screechingcat: 48%
[10:36] <warlock> Is the command cp -r /home/cs1/ /home/cs2/ ?
[10:36] <segfault_> warlock, cd /home/cs1;cp -arp * /home/cs2/.
[10:36] <screechingcat> screechingcat bangs his head in exasparation and screams "damned 15%"
[10:36] <Clawfinger> Hello, I was just wondering, I accidentally created a folder while in an application i launched in the root terminal and the folder name has a space in it, is there anyway I can modify this folder at all? when I try to browse to it in the root terminal it simply tries to find a folder with the first word and that folder is non-existant
[10:36] <warlock> you sure?
[10:36] <warlock> Does that copy the /home/cs1/ stuff to /home/cs2/ ?
[10:37] <mcphail> Clawfinger: use a backslash in fromt of the space
[10:37] <mcphail> front
[10:37] <Clawfinger> thankyou.
[10:37] <warlock> yeah it does
[10:37] <warlock> big thanks :)
[10:37] <segfault_> np
[10:37] <mcphail> Clawfinger: ..or use the tab key to complete the path
[10:38] <n0dl> Sometimes when I am in X and I start firefox or a terminal or xmms X suddenly locks up. I cannot access any of my left click menus, all my keybinds start working, I cant exit X using ctrl+alt+backspace. The onlything I can do is move my mouse. I also see that the only thing still actively running is conky.... How would i fix this problem?
[10:38] <n0dl> ive tried looking at my /var/log/messages and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:38] <n0dl> but nothing strange shows
[10:38] <n0dl> *peculiar
[10:39] <Clawfinger> mcphail: yeah the tab key won't complete it in this case as there are two folders with the first word 'My Pictures' and 'My Music' but yeah, could you also tell me where I can located the backslash key on an american keyboard, as I have a UK keyboard and the key labelled backslash just gives me >
[10:39] <Clawfinger> locate*
[10:39] <thedash> I can't get the last drive on this list to work. http://pastebin.arslinux.com/3832  Its formatted in fat32 atm, don't know if that matters
[10:40] <mcphail> Clawfinger: you need to reconfigure that one, i think
[10:40] <Clawfinger> well, can you just type a backslash for me so i can c+p it? :P
[10:40] <Yaakov> Good evening, ladydoor.
[10:40] <racarter> uuh..
[10:40] <mcphail> \
[10:40] <screechingcat> Clawfinger, here u go /
[10:40] <racarter> hello computer people
[10:40] <ladydoor> Yaakov: good evening.
[10:40] <Clawfinger> thankyoou.
[10:41] <racarter> can you connect to a site that is using ftp over ssl with gftp?
[10:41] <racarter> i guess that would equal ftps
[10:41] <mcphail> Clawfinger: by the way, tab completion will still get you out of your problem...
[10:41] <n0dl> s/start/stop/
[10:41] <tony_> sorry, i missed on my queation.. how do i stop gnome and enter console ???
[10:42] <segfault_> tony_, ctrl-alt-F1 takes u to console, login sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop will stop x
[10:42] <trappist> tony_: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:42] <Buglouse> When using MPlayer, how can I change the "Open > File" menu to display "All Files" instead of "Video Files"?
[10:42] <tony_> ok, how do i start gnome after that
[10:42] <Buglouse> apon difault that is
[10:42] <segfault_> tony_, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:42] <Buglouse> default*
[10:43] <Clawfinger> anyway mcphail, thanks alot, you helped me out alot there :)
[10:43] <bam_> I was wondering why I cant run "chmod -R" from inside of a script?
[10:43] <ukjadoon> Hello everyone
[10:44] <segfault_> bam_, man chmod
[10:44] <bam_> ok, I will.
[10:44] <tony_> THANKS
[10:44] <totall_6_7> here is a bit of info that someone may find usefull: I reformated an ntfs drive to ext3, everything went fine till i tried to write to that drive, no matter what i did the permissions would not change. So being a ex-windows user i tried something "sudo nautilus" went to the mount point and changed the permissions through properties
[10:45] <trappist> bam_: you should be able to
[10:45] <writingdesk> why is kernel-source for dapper, 2.4 when the default install is 2.6?
[10:45] <trappist> bam_: assuming you have write access to all the files being chmodded
[10:45] <trappist> writingdesk: the package you want is probably something other than kernel-source
[10:45] <dthacker> which section of packages would I find databases in?
[10:45] <ukjadoon> can anyone help me with installing GTK+2.0 before i go INSANE!!!!!!! :( i have downloaded something like 20 different libraries already and there seems to be no end of issues or dependancies this is the crappiest thing ever:( all i wanted was to make my desktop look cool
[10:45] <Dr_willis> writingdesk,  im thinking some thing is confused..
[10:45] <Dr_willis> !info kernel-source
[10:46] <ubotu> Package kernel-source does not exist in any distro I know
[10:46] <trappist> writingdesk: if you're trying to like build drivers or something you want to sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:46] <stefg> !themes
[10:46] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[10:46] <segfault_> writingdesk, u want linux-source
[10:46] <writingdesk> segfault: thanks!
[10:46] <dthacker> ! mysql
[10:46] <ubotu> offically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)
[10:46] <racarter> does anyone use gftp?
[10:46] <iLLf8d> yeah from time to time
[10:46] <ukjadoon> is there any easier way to install GTK on my ubuntu 6.06 lts??
[10:47] <totall_6_7> i do not know if that helps anyone or not but i thought i would let you know
[10:47] <bam_> I have unpacked a tar.gz (tar xvf) and then want to chmod -R 644 the folder and files. Anything wrong with that? I get permission denied.
[10:47] <ProN00b> how do i disable sshd ?
[10:47] <writingdesk> trappist:  no I want to build my own kernel.
[10:47] <ukjadoon> i am ont he edge of insanity, *WALKS CLOSE TO THE EDGE OF THE CLIFF*:|
[10:47] <ProN00b> like not run it automatically on startup
[10:47] <bhamgray> how do I make the system 'aware' of the fact that I now want my firefox folder in my home directory to be THE firefox directory for the system? So that I get plugins, etc working properly
[10:47] <stefg> ukjadoon: you wouldn' been asking this if gtk wasn't already installed :-)
[10:47] <screechingcat> writingdesk, plenty of guides on the forum for that
[10:47] <SlackRat> just installed kubuntu for someone, running adept now....does that upgrade the dapper dvd to 6.06.1  ?
[10:47] <Dr_willis> bam_,  why chod -R ?
[10:47] <ladydoor> ukjadoon: easier than what?
[10:48] <Dr_willis> bam_,  err why chmod it. :P
[10:48] <trappist> writingdesk: that process is way more complicated than it ought to be, and way more complicated than you're probably used to with like fedora or mandriva or something
[10:48] <SlackRat> or do i need to run a dist-upgrade as well?
[10:48] <writingdesk> screechingcat:  well, grew up on debian (used to be called kernel-source not linux-source)
[10:48] <ladydoor> SlackRat: yes, 6.06.1 isn't actually a new dist--just a more updated version.
[10:48] <thedash> I can't get the last drive on my fstab to work. http://pastebin.arslinux.com/3832  Its formatted in fat32 atm, don't know if that matters
[10:48] <bam_> because I want to chmod the folders and files inside. I dont know any other way to do it.
[10:48] <writingdesk> trappist:  I'm coming from LFS and Sourcemage, I think it should be ok, unless Ubuntu is that far off
[10:48] <trappist> bam_: when the folder gets chmodded to 644 you can no longer enter it to chmod its contents
[10:48] <n0dl> do broken X packages cause X lockup?
[10:48] <screechingcat> SlackRat, u dont need to do a dist upgrade
[10:48] <SlackRat> right, thanks ladydoor
[10:49] <Nutubuntu> Has anyone either used the Amaya 9.5 .deb or compiled it from source (for Dapper)? I see that even in Edgy we're still at 8.5, and I need some of the features that come in later releases ...
[10:49] <ukjadoon> oops back
[10:49] <n0dl> such as system-core or Xbase-clients?
[10:49] <trappist> bam_: you want chmod -R a+rX or something
[10:49] <asc> pronoob: in a terminal, so 'sudo sysd-rc-conf', find the sshd, and disable it, most likely.
[10:49] <DJ_Danni> Hello i need a HELP
[10:49] <ladydoor> SlackRat: np
[10:49] <SlackRat> running adept gets me fully up to date then? cool
[10:49] <bam_> I will try
[10:49] <ukjadoon> well i am going bonkers trying to install GTK
[10:49] <ukjadoon> each time i try it it requires some new library
[10:49] <picochu> is it better to dist-upgrade to edgy from drapper or reinstalling it from edgy cd?
[10:49] <DJ_Danni> msg/me to help me
[10:49] <iLLf8d> lol
[10:50] <iLLf8d> DJ_Danni, how will they know if they can if you don't tellem what the problem is
[10:50] <trappist> writingdesk: you can grab the kernel.org source and build that, but ubuntu doesn't make a real kernel-source package like you might expect
[10:50] <ukjadoon> i downloaded cairo, makepp, glib, jpegsrv, libpng ETC ETC ughhhh
[10:50] <screechingcat> picochu : definitel better to install from cd
[10:50] <ukjadoon> and it still has some new never before seen requirement popping up each time
[10:50] <ladydoor> picochu: it's best to wait until edgy is actually released.
[10:50] <picochu> screechingcat:  but some of the lib and lib-dev packages doesn't add up.
[10:51] <iLLf8d> I hope noone pmed DJ_Danni w/out explaining that to them
[10:51] <trappist> bam_: you'll probably have to sudo chmod -R +X it first
[10:51] <segfault_> writingdesk, fyi debian/ubuntu has some tools to make building kernels easier see kernel-package and the command make-kpkg
[10:51] <DJ_Danni> I am trying to Upload to my Webserver via FTP but the Com is noat on somthang. How can i chance it by using ssh?
[10:51] <Justy> hello
[10:51] <ukjadoon> STEFG!!! =D hey man
[10:51] <picochu> ladydoor: I'd like to try xorg 7.1 not available in drapper :X
[10:51] <screechingcat> picochu, dosent add up as in ?
[10:51] <picochu> screechingcat:  diff versions
[10:51] <ukjadoon> this is the second time lol
[10:51] <DJ_Danni> Can somone help me with that?
[10:51] <ukjadoon> how r u doing?
[10:51] <screechingcat> picochu, in the edgy cd ?
[10:52] <picochu> screechingcat:  i did the installation from the cd. yep
[10:52] <digilink> DJ_Danni: what exactly do you mean?
[10:52] <bhamgray> Edgy comes with Bon Echo but I wanted to go back to 1.5 so I downloaded it and it works fine in my home directory but I can't get mplayer plugins working.
[10:52] <iLLf8d> DJ_Danni, dunno what you mean by com however transfering a file over ssh is easy assuming its on at both ends and there are no keys involved (scp ./localfile user@remotehost:)
[10:52] <iLLf8d> DJ_Danni, that'd transfer a file from localmachine to  remote hosts users home path with the same name
[10:52] <screechingcat> picochu, wierd. are u having any problems with apps running those libs ?
[10:52] <Nutubuntu> Has anyone either used the Amaya 9.5 .deb or compiled it from source (for Dapper)? I see that even in Edgy we're still at 8.5, and I need some of the features that come in later releases ...
[10:52] <DJ_Danni> I am trying to Uploiad to my Webserver but when i try to make a New Folder he dose noat show up:S
[10:52] <bam_> but I want to do this from inside a script. Shouldnt I be able to change the permissions of a folders and files that I myself have created from inside the script?
[10:52] <bhamgray> Anyone know what steps I take to get plugins pointed to the firefox folder in my home directory?
[10:53] <picochu> screechingcat: nope but i can't install the dev  stuffs that i need to compile some packages
[10:53] <screechingcat> bhamgray, y do u want to use 1.5 instead of bon echo ?
[10:53] <writingdesk> segfault:  I'll check that out, thanks
[10:53] <segfault_> bhamgray, need to make links from ur plugins folder to the plugins
[10:53] <iLLf8d> DJ_Danni, or you could just use sftp user@host and then it'd be just like ftp commands
[10:53] <screechingcat> picochu, ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:53] <bhamgray> 75% of my favorite plugins don't work in Bon Echo yet
[10:53] <tony_> IM trying to install NVIDIA driver , during installation , message apeared saying i don't have pre compiled kernell.
[10:53] <segfault_> writingdesk, np
[10:54] <screechingcat> bhamgray, google "nightly tester tools"
[10:54] <tony_> and another massage said , i need ot have libc header in order for installation to compile .
[10:54] <tony_> where can i find that
[10:54] <iLLf8d> lpwd lls lcd (for local pwd ls and cd commands) and pwd ls cd for remote commands (and of course get/put)
[10:54] <bhamgray> screechingcat: ok
[10:54] <stefg> !nvidia > tony_
[10:54] <segfault_> tony_, libc6-dev
[10:54] <DJ_Danni> I use radio@radio
[10:54] <cpk2> tony_: did you compile your kernel yourself?
[10:54] <tony_> NO
[10:54] <tony_> installer was going to compile it
[10:54] <tony_> but missing libc
[10:55] <ukjadoon> ohh
[10:55] <ukjadoon> did u get the libc6 error?
[10:55] <ukjadoon> i got that too
[10:55] <ukjadoon> :S
[10:55] <segfault_> tony_, then why compile ur own nvidia module
[10:55] <stefg> tony_: ubuntu has rhe driver already, no need to compile one
[10:55] <DJ_Danni> How can i chance the permission with ssh?
[10:55] <tony_> I have no idea how to do that
[10:55] <tony_> im new to linux
[10:55] <segfault_> DJ_Danni, man chmod
[10:56] <tony_> whats rhe ??
[10:56] <DJ_Danni> My Webserver is on /var/www/ and how can i chance it with Putty ssh?
[10:56] <segfault_> tony_, install linux-restricted modules and change nv to nvidia in ur xorg.conf, then restart x (or reboot)
[10:56] <ClayG> Hey, whats that program that is sort of like dreamweaver ?
[10:56] <ClayG> for ubuntu
[10:56] <stefg> tony_: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable ... then ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X
[10:56] <screechingcat> ClayG, Bluefish
[10:57] <digilink> clayg: try bluefish, it's close or NVU
[10:57] <Nutubuntu> ClayG:  Are you thinking of nvu?
[10:57] <Nutubuntu> (How is bluefish close to dreamweaver?)
[10:57] <tony_> but on nvidia site , is mentioned that i should not have the nvidia glx installed if im going to install this driver
[10:57] <ClayG> awsome, ill try both
[10:57] <dthacker> Hi.  What category would I find databases under on packages.unbuntu.com?
[10:57] <ClayG> thanks guys
[10:57] <screechingcat> Nutubuntu, it aint close. its better
[10:57] <tony_> how do you make the user name appear before the text on this chat ???
[10:58] <ClayG> i had one that worked well but didnt remember the name
[10:58] <synjet> Danni: ssh username@server
[10:58] <ladydoor> tony_: you mean you're just seeing random text?
[10:58] <screechingcat> ClayG : Nvu and Bluefish are the two best
[10:58] <DJ_Danni> my username is radio@radio
[10:58] <Nutubuntu> I was under the impression that dreamweaver is a WYSIWYG editor and bluefish is a text editor ...
[10:58] <ukjadoon> ummmmmmmmmmm is there a better desktop mod solution that GTK out there?
[10:58] <tony_> no
[10:58] <synjet> !chmod > DJ_Danni
[10:58] <DJ_Danni> I am logged in to that in Putty
[10:58] <iLLf8d> DJ_Danni, you way want to look at a basic linux sysadmin guide these are basics that you should learn or perhaps you should try to run a different os
[10:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chmod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:58] <Hyperion|Sleep> anyone know if there is a way to install ubuntu from gnome terminal from a differnt linux distro?
[10:58] <ukjadoon> i mean what the best in Ubuntu eye candy mods?
[10:58] <Justy> question: I have been trying to install compiz following the instructions here  http://forum.beryl-project.org/viewtopic.php?id=389
[10:58] <tony_> like what you did you put my name before the message
[10:58] <ukjadoon> :S
[10:58] <tulkas> Hello, is it possible to get video-output to work on Ubuntu, Id like to use my TV as a screeh?
[10:58] <screechingcat> Nutubuntu, nope. bluefish is a whizzywig editor
[10:58] <ladydoor> tony_: you type it. and your client probably has tab-completion.
[10:59] <Dr_willis> Hyperion|Sleep,  not that ive heard of.. at least not easialy.
[10:59] <Justy> question: but i got that error http://paste-bin.com/730
[10:59] <Hyperion|Sleep> hehe, ok, thanks
[10:59] <eurytus> tulkas, need more info about your card
[10:59] <Dr_willis> Hyperion|Sleep,  ya could perhaps use vmware, or qemu.. but thats a scary way
[10:59] <synjet> Danni: go to /var/www and change the permissions using chmod
[10:59] <gnomefreak> Justy: please join #ubuntu-xgl for help with that
[10:59] <picochu> screechingcat: I think I'll try again with edgy beta. i was using knot-3 obviously that didn't go very well
[10:59] <ukjadoon> i think ubotu sent me some nice links but when i clicked on one of my chatzilla hung up and i had to restart =(
[10:59] <sonium> can someone tell me why ubuntu mounts dvd's but I can not read them without root, but CDs work fine?
[10:59] <Justy> gnomefreak, thanks and sorry
[10:59] <Hyperion|Sleep> I think vmware is listed on the site
[10:59] <Hyperion|Sleep> though knoppix is supposed to work too
[10:59] <stefg> Justy: /j #ubuntu-xgl
[10:59] <tulkas> Eurytus, well I have RAC-output at least in my card, this is a laptop.
[10:59] <mwe> sonium: you probably need to add a rule to fstab
[10:59] <DJ_Danni> Yeas but how can i do it in SSH? I am noat where my Server are
[11:00] <Hyperion|Sleep> itsjust that gentoo made knoppix hate my system :D
[11:00] <sonium> mwe: how?
[11:00] <Dr_willis> Hyperion|Sleep,  its easy to setup/install in a vmware session.. but thats not a normal install that will be bootable by iteslf.
[11:00] <Justy> stefg, thanks
[11:00] <screechingcat> picochu, beta is out. im dl - ing it right now
[11:00] <ukjadoon> oht thanx guys =D stefg u da man lol
[11:00] <eurytus> RAC? is that composite? Did you mean RCA?
[11:00] <synjet> Danni: are you logged into your server?
[11:00] <tony_> ok , i will try again to install nvidia. wish me luck
[11:00] <tulkas> yes I mean rca :>
[11:00] <tony_> :)
[11:00] <sonium> mwe: /media/dvdrecord doesn't get mentioned in fstab at all
[11:00] <tulkas> Sorry about that.
[11:00] <mwe> sonium: first back up the file. then sudo nano /etc/fstab and look at the other entries
[11:00] <DJ_Danni> Yeas via Putty
[11:00] <Hyperion|Sleep> oh, I can compile a debian kernel no problem ;)
[11:00] <picochu> screechingcat:  200k a sec.. that will take a while :|
[11:00] <synjet> Danni: good, so you can cd to /var/www?
[11:00] <Hyperion|Sleep> thanks
[11:00] <eurytus> tulkas, I am guessing it's some integrated chip which might make it difficult if the mfg didn't produce drivers/documentation
[11:01] <sonium> mwe: don't you think there is something wrong with the automounter?
[11:01] <DJ_Danni> I am there
[11:01] <screechingcat> picochu, imagine my situation. im gettin 20k a sec
[11:01] <stefg> lspci helps
[11:01] <DJ_Danni> on /var/www
[11:01] <eurytus> tulkas, try doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and selecting the v4l package, then install "tvtime"
[11:01] <picochu> screechingcat:  ouch
[11:01] <mwe> sonium: you should be able to "monkey see, monkey do" it
[11:01] <mdryden> Hello
[11:01] <eurytus> tulkas, if that doesn't work, try googling about your laptop model and linux and TV out, or try to find the graphics unit's name
[11:01] <picochu> screechingcat:  not broadband?
[11:01] <synjet> ok now use the command "chmod" to change the permissions to whatever you want
[11:02] <mwe> sonium: I doubt udev or hal is broken from what you describe
[11:02] <mdryden> Would anyone have a few moments to help me understand a problem that is happening with my nvidia card (concerning resolution)
[11:02] <iLLf8d> anyone in here know how to add factoids to the bot?
[11:02] <screechingcat> picochu, in my country this is called broadband.
[11:02] <picochu> screechingcat:  where r u from?
[11:02] <iLLf8d> lemme rephrase that can someone in here please tell me how to add factoids to the bot
[11:02] <screechingcat> picochu, India
[11:02] <tulkas> eurytus,  thanks for the help, I'll try those tips.
[11:02] <tulkas> :)
[11:03] <mwe> !usage > iLLf8d
[11:03] <iLLf8d> thanks
[11:03] <eurytus> !usage > eurytus
[11:03] <mwe> yw
[11:03] <screechingcat> !yw
[11:03] <LjL> 20 kilo*bytes* a second is broadband here, too... poor broadband, but still broadband. it's not a 56k modem anyway
[11:03] <eurytus> I knew those nederlanders were behind everything
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <picochu> screechingcat: ah. Is it this bad for just residential or what?
[11:03] <LjL> 20kilo*bits* is most definitely not broadband
[11:03] <mwe> I agree
[11:03] <picochu> screechingcat: are u using cable or dsl?
[11:03] <knapper_> hey guys, im getting the following error when I go to compile a theme: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25104/ (in kubuntu)
[11:04] <knapper_> I have installed all of the qt packages
[11:04] <DJ_Danni> ok but what command shut i use to Set the command to 755 or 777?
[11:04] <screechingcat> picochu, i can get a 1mb connection but that comes with a 1gb up down limit
[11:04] <LjL> knapper_: "sudo aptitude install kdelibs4-dev"
[11:04] <screechingcat> picochu, DSL
[11:04] <gnomefreak> iLLf8d: you cant add facts to bot please pm me and tell me what you want added
[11:04] <synjet> Danni: http://www.washington.edu/computing/unix/permissions.html
[11:04] <picochu> screechingcat:  that is bad.. i guess there isn't any unmetered plan is there?
[11:04] <DJ_Danni> ok thangs
[11:04] <knapper_> tnx LjL
[11:04] <mdryden> I've been working with Ubuntu on a computer that does not have access to the internet. My screen resolution is 640x480. I finally got the nvidia-glx package installed, hoping that having no drivers was the problem...however, I am still not allowed to change my resolution
[11:05] <gnomefreak> iLLf8d: i will send it to someone as im about to leave
[11:05] <LjL> !fixres > mdryden
[11:05] <screechingcat> picochu, yes there is. the one im on right now is 256kbps  unlimited usage
[11:05] <bhamgray> screechingcat: Good call! That worked fine
[11:05] <ClayG> weird usually when i hear the name or at the very most use the program i can tell which it is....i dont know if nvu or bluefish is the one, but both look great thanks guys (all 3)
[11:05] <picochu> screechingcat:  and how much does that cost?
[11:05] <stefg> !fixres > mdryden
[11:05] <mdryden> I've been reading the FixVideoResolution on the wiki page
[11:05] <screechingcat> picochu, 900 indian rupees
[11:05] <picochu> screechingcat:  in us dollars please. :)
[11:06] <mdryden> :) Thank you, I just wanted to make sure that I was reading the right page.
[11:06] <DJ_Danni> ok this si littelbit confused for me
[11:06] <DJ_Danni> I am a bigenner in Linux
[11:06] <screechingcat> picochu, 19$
[11:06] <stefg> mdryden: so you've got nvidia video hardware? If it's ancient you'll need nvidia-_legacy_
[11:06] <DJ_Danni> But what shut i type to chance commands to 755 or 777?
[11:06] <eurytus> chmod 0777 <files>
[11:07] <sonium> what is the filesystem for a dvd?
[11:07] <DJ_Danni> ok
[11:07] <sonium> in fstab
[11:07] <mdryden> LjL and stefg, thank you. One more question: If I don't have access to the internet on my computer, is there a way I can download *all* the general packages and burn them to a disk?
[11:07] <picochu> screechingcat: not too bad. I'm pay for like $US40 for 4Mb unmetered in singapore
[11:07] <eurytus> chmod -r 0777 <directory> to recursively change permissions on all files in <directory> (and directory itself)
[11:07] <LjL> mdryden: i guess you could make a mirror of the repositories.
[11:07] <eurytus> sorry that's -R
[11:07] <eurytus> or --recursive
[11:07] <POVaddct> eurytus: it's -R, not -r
[11:07] <picochu> screechingcat: is the connection reliable? never did like DSL. for me cable is more stable.
[11:07] <EmxBA> tell me something...are you really afraid of slackware? :)
[11:08] <screechingcat> picochu, its fine. no probs at all
[11:08] <LjL> mdryden: programs like apt-proxy might help
[11:08] <picochu> screechingcat:  no disconn i suppose?
[11:08] <screechingcat> mdryden, u need to get a ubuntu plus cd
[11:08] <asc> Is there a way to list and/or view active terminal sessions?
[11:08] <screechingcat> picochu, nope
[11:08] <DJ_Danni> chmod: changing permissions of `/var/www/apache2-default/robots.txt': Operation not permitted
[11:08] <DJ_Danni> radio@radio:~$ cd /var/www
[11:08] <DJ_Danni> radio@radio:/var/www$ "chmod" 755
[11:08] <DJ_Danni> chmod: too few arguments
[11:08] <DJ_Danni> Try `chmod --help' for more information.
[11:08] <DJ_Danni> radio@radio:/var/www$ "755"
[11:08] <DJ_Danni> -bash: 755: command not found
[11:08] <ladydoor> !paste
[11:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:08] <DJ_Danni> radio@radio:/var/www$ commands "755"
[11:08] <DJ_Danni> -bash: commands: command not found
[11:08] <screechingcat> !Ubuntu Plus
[11:08] <DJ_Danni> radio@radio:/var/www$ chmod 0777 <files>
[11:08] <DJ_Danni> -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[11:08] <ladydoor> DJ_Danni: stop it
[11:08] <mdryden> Oh sorry. At my house, I have no connection to the internet at all.
[11:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Ubuntu Plus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <DJ_Danni> radio@radio:/var/www$ chmod 0777
[11:08] <DJ_Danni> chmod: too few arguments
[11:08] <DJ_Danni> Try `chmod --help' for more information.
[11:09] <DJ_Danni> radio@radio:/var/www$ chmod 0755
[11:09] <DJ_Danni> chmod: too few arguments
[11:09] <DJ_Danni> Try `chmod --help' for more information.
[11:09] <ladydoor> DJ_Danni: stop
[11:09] <DJ_Danni> radio@radio:/var/www$
[11:09] <DJ_Danni> I get this
[11:09] <eurytus> he probably pasted it and it buffered
[11:09] <screechingcat> mdryden, Ubuntu Plus is a cd with all the repos burned into it
[11:09] <ladydoor> eurytus: oh
[11:09] <POVaddct> DJ_Danni: chmod 0755 filename
[11:09] <ladydoor> DJ_Danni: in the future, please use pastebin
[11:09] <eurytus> You were supposed to replace <files> with whatever you were trying to chmod :(
[11:09] <dthacker> DJ_Danni: Please use pastebin!
[11:09] <picochu> screechingcat: cool. are you living near the big cities like mumbai or hyberdad ?
[11:09] <mdryden> I have the 6.06LTS edition--I'm assuming that's not it.
[11:09] <stefg> mdryden: setting up an offline-repository is tricky, rather burn the stuff to CD and copy either to /var/cache/apt/archives or install manually by dpkg -i
[11:09] <eurytus> to be explicit: chmod 0755 commands
[11:10] <screechingcat> picochu, i live in Chennai.
[11:10] <synjet> !pastebin>DJ_Danni
[11:10] <ablyss> i thought 777 was the highest possible value for changing modes ( chmod )
[11:10] <ablyss> don't understand why the extra zero is needed
[11:10] <synjet> ablyss: 777 gives write/exec permissions to all, 755 is safer
[11:11] <screechingcat> mdryden, Ubuntu 6.06 LTS is the OS. Ubuntu Plus is just a dics wich contains all the required pakacages for it
[11:11] <picochu> screechingcat: ah another major outsource centre... :)
[11:11] <screechingcat> mdryden, so that u can install software without an internet connection
[11:11] <ablyss> synjet, righty i wasn't concered with the permissions but the extra zero that eurytus was placing i.e., 0777
[11:11] <screechingcat> picochu, Yep
[11:11] <SlackRat> biab
[11:12] <POVaddct> ablyss: the leading zero can be omitted. however, there are special permissions needing a leading non-zero value, like suid or sticky bit
[11:12] <Nutubuntu> I'll have to go soon, but wanted to ask one more time if anyone has either used the Amaya 9.5 .deb or compiled it from source (for Dapper)? I see that even in Edgy we're still at 8.5, and I need some of the features that come in later releases ... I would like to install 9.5 from the w3c's .deb but don't want to get into a cascading series of problems with stuff that's not from one of the Ubuntu repositories
[11:12] <iLLf8d> can someone tell me how to add a term laucher line to my right click popup menu?
[11:12] <picochu> screechingcat:  so i guess the infrastructure should be pretty okay there.
[11:12] <iLLf8d> I'm not as gnome savvy as I wish I were
[11:12] <screechingcat> picochu, it aint too shabby. but it aint too great either
[11:12] <ablyss> POVaddct oh i see, i never understand what a "sticky" permisson does
[11:12] <AAAle> is there someone using postfix with ubuntu?
[11:12] <eurytus> 0777 means "no sticky bit" I think
[11:13] <picochu> screechingcat: really? u local?
[11:13] <POVaddct> ablyss: it's mainly for the /tmp directory. so everyone can write it, but one can only delete his own files
[11:13] <screechingcat> picochu, local as in ? if u mean to ask if i live there, yes i do
[11:13] <POVaddct> eurytus: yeah, and 1777 is 777 and sticky bit
[11:14] <DJ_Danni> My www dir is noat on 755 thats wuy i canoat Upload
[11:14] <shmulik> Hi, I've got Dapper on a MacBook Pro here, and the Atheros wifi card isn't connecting to any access points (but it looks like it can see them).  I've Googled, and it seems I need a newer version of madwifi-ng than what ships with 6.06.1, is that what I should try and get?
[11:14] <ladydoor> eurytus: what does the sticky bit do?
[11:14] <mdryden> thank you for your help, everybody.
[11:14] <AAAle> https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/email-services.html <- i'm using this guide, i've only configured postfix but i don't recive mail. log says warnings like lost connection after CONNECT from blah
[11:14] <eurytus> ladydoor, not much except on directories
[11:15] <picochu> screechingcat: not just living there. but are you native to that region or did u migrate to Chennai?
[11:15] <eurytus> When  the sticky bit is set on a directory, files in that directory may
[11:15] <eurytus>        be unlinked or renamed only by root or their owner.  Without the sticky
[11:15] <eurytus>        bit,  anyone able to write to the directory can delete or rename files.
[11:15] <ladydoor> eurytus: ok
[11:15] <ablyss> ladydoor, the sticky bit from what I just learned is for not allowing or allowing users to delete tmp files of other users
[11:15] <eurytus> man chmod for more info
[11:15] <eurytus> exactly, you set it on world-writable directories
[11:15] <ladydoor> ablyss: oh, ok
[11:16] <eBs|Jack> hey i was following the guide to usbstick install for ubuntu and all works but i cant get it to mount my sda as cdrom
[11:16] <eBs|Jack> anyone know how to fix this?
[11:16] <POVaddct> eurytus: world-writable dirs are a security issue. better set it group writable and add the user to that group
[11:16] <screechingcat> picochu, : technically i belong to hyderabad . but ive live in chennai since i was a few months old so i'm pretty much a native. but i think we should stop this discussion now or move it to ubuntu-offtopic
[11:17] <eBs|Jack> has anyone successfully booted and installed from usbstick ?
[11:17] <user_> What is the command, again, to switch to administrator mode in terminal?
[11:17] <picochu> screechingcat: np.
[11:17] <ablyss> hello hyderabad, love your food.. good stuff
[11:17] <shmulik> user_: su
[11:17] <POVaddct> eurytus: i mean world writable dirs except /tmp :)
[11:17] <picochu> screechingcat: just curious thats all
[11:17] <shmulik> user_: Just use sudo though
[11:17] <shmulik> user_: As in "sudo synaptic"
[11:17] <user_> shmulik: sudo ... ?
[11:17] <screechingcat> picochu, no prob mate
[11:18] <screechingcat> ablyss, : want some ?
[11:18] <xplic1t> I'm missing xslt support for my php5 installation. I used apt-get install libxslt1.1, but do I need to recompile php5 from source?
[11:18] <shmulik> user_: You type "sudo" then the command you'd like run as a superuser.
[11:18] <AlinuxSOS> hello is there some places on the net where I can post a screenshot ?
[11:18] <user_> shmulik: Ha! Ha! That's right. Sorry, Sir.
[11:18] <synjet> ablyss: Chicago's Devon street has good Hyd food
[11:18] <AlinuxSOS> (an error screenshot ?)
[11:18] <syllogism> Is there a program that will wait for input from the parallel port and then execute commands based on the recieved data?
[11:18] <shmulik> user_: "sudo synaptic" would open up synaptic with superuser priveleges so you can install/remove packages.
[11:18] <screechingcat> synjet : so dose hyderabad
[11:19] <mdryden> I just noticed: sudo sh -c 'md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum'  -- isn't it supposed to be /var/lib/X11/xorg.conf.md5sum (capital X11)?
[11:19] <syllogism> similar to what lirc can do, but with the parallel port?
[11:19] <ablyss> screechingcat, actually i'm going out for indian food tonight.. my lady is indian and she trys to out do me in spicy foods, but I'm pretty good
[11:19] <AlinuxSOS> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ dosen't support it ?
[11:19] <shmulik> user_: No need to apologize...
[11:19] <synjet> screechingcat: but for those not in india :D
[11:19] <screechingcat> ablyss : dont eat the pickles though
[11:19] <user_> shmulik: Thank you. ;)
[11:20] <ubu> GoogleEarth showing large empty rectangles after install today - suggestions ?
[11:20] <ClayG> hey who recommended bluefish?\
[11:20] <iLLf8d> anyone else having trouble with ubuntu not shutting down correctly all the time? seems a few of them don't complete and when I startup next time my screen res is all wierd in gdm till I login?
[11:20] <iLLf8d> bluefish is decent
[11:20] <ablyss> synjet, we have a places here that are good too, near atlanta GA
[11:20] <jhasse> how can i get rid of the error, that my asx-file is an txt-file??!??
[11:20] <screechingcat> ClayG : is that a "u screwed me up and i want revenge question" ?
[11:21] <iLLf8d> ClayG the developers are all about real world politics and use their project to push them for a while
[11:22] <ClayG>  no it was about a "how do i switch to "designer" mode in it, but i just loaded the .html in nvu and foudn the option there
[11:22] <ClayG> lol
[11:22] <eBs|Jack> has anyone successfully booted and installed from usbstick ?
[11:22] <mwe> yeah
[11:22] <screechingcat> *whew*
[11:22] <syllogism> Is there an easy way to listen for data from the parallel port and then execute commands when a value is recieved?
[11:23] <syllogism> similar to lirc, but with the parallel port?
[11:23] <mwe> eBs|Jack: I did.
[11:23] <iLLf8d> syllogism, I dunno but what are you doing? /me is curious?
[11:23] <ablyss> i once successfully booted and intalled from a zip 250 disk </end bragging>
[11:23] <iLLf8d> syllogism, you can listen to sockets dunno if the parallel port uses them like all the rest of linux goodies perhaps checking in proc but that data woudl be pretty raw
[11:24] <screechingcat> ablyss, zips are ancient history mate
[11:24] <trappist> ablyss: I once installed linux by carefully applying a very small magnet to the platters in my hard drive
[11:24] <iLLf8d> lol
[11:24] <magnet> i concur
[11:24] <magnet> :)
[11:24] <syllogism> iLLf8d, want to setup a remote control
[11:25] <iLLf8d> trappist couldn't drink coffee for like a year before it otherwise trappist would've shook too much
[11:25] <trappist> definitely had to enter a zen state
[11:25] <masingerz> hello
[11:25] <iLLf8d> syllogism if I were you i'd download a kernel source and check its Documentation path to see what you've got
[11:25] <masingerz> I have dapper and i want to use my pentium 4 hyper threading
[11:26] <masingerz> how do i install an ubuntu version that handles ht?
[11:26] <masingerz> i think its 686-smp
[11:26] <masingerz> currently i have 686
[11:27] <Kuprin> Hey guys - I can't get the default BitTorrent client to connect to any trackers. This has been an ongoing problem for me, through the last 3 versions. I'm hoping to take another shot at curing it tonight.
[11:27] <iLLf8d> syllogism, http://www.lvr.com/parport.htm <- looks like that might help out
[11:27] <masingerz> Linux masingerz 2.6.15-27-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 02:13:27 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:28] <tapas> ok, ubuntu  6.10 did boot until it started X. Even in safe graphics mode it hung there..
[11:28] <tapas> [thinkpad t21] .. is there a way to use the dri drivers instead? those work better
[11:28] <mdryden> (Does anyone know of any writing software for lunix?)
[11:28] <LjL> mdryden: "writing software"?
[11:29] <mdryden> As in novel writing
[11:29] <writingdesk> mdryden:  like Open Office or AbiWord?
[11:29] <LjL> mdryden: uh... a word processor you mean?
[11:29] <tapas> lunix like this lunix:
[11:29] <tapas> http://lng.sourceforge.net/lunix/lunix.html
[11:29] <screechingcat> software --- there, i wrote it
[11:29] <screechingcat> horrible PJ i know
[11:29] <writingdesk> mdryden:  Linux can't write novels... it's good but not that good
[11:29] <HedgeMage> mdryden: you mean like for tracking plot threads and such?
[11:29] <mdryden> yes!
[11:29] <Kragnerac> Hello, does anyone know what the advantage is between the i386 and i686 versions of the Linux kernel?
[11:29] <mdryden> Sorry, I wasn
[11:30] <mdryden> wasn't clear enough.
[11:30] <Kragnerac> Or the difference
[11:30] <niklas_e> is there any way to boot with grub so you can run reiserfsck to check the / (/dev/sda2)
[11:30] <tapas> http://lng.sourceforge.net/lunix/lng_shot.html
[11:30] <niklas_e> or you need to have the cd (or dvd)
[11:30] <eBs|Jack> mwe can you tell me how?
[11:30] <tapas> hah 0.37 BogoMIPS
[11:30] <iLLf8d> wb ladydoor
[11:30] <HedgeMage> mdryden: Ummm... a friend of mine was working on something like that a while ago, but I don't have a URL or anything.  I can poke him about it this weekend for you.
[11:31] <joeljkp> the VIRT, RES, and SHR columns in 'top', what units are those in?
[11:31] <HedgeMage> mdryden: I was thinking about it anyway since I just got talked into doing NaNoWriMo :)
[11:31] <darkanyel> hi, anyone know how change the server of warcraft 3 in linux???
[11:32] <stribb> Howdy all y'all. Where do I find something that will let me play .avi files?
[11:32] <cafuego> !RestrictedFormats > stribb
[11:33] <stribb> avi is restricted? Didn't realise
[11:33] <eurytus> no, codecs are restricted
[11:33] <screechingcat> Kragnerac : i386 is for older hardware. i686 is specifically for intel x86 processors
[11:33] <eurytus> avi's use a variety of codecs. Some of these are proprietary.
[11:33] <SpudDogg> Anyone here know how to read data in downloaded wireless packets?
[11:34] <ossie> #compiz
[11:34] <stribb> Thanks. So if I get the appropriate codecs, the file format will magically work?
[11:34] <screechingcat> stribb, pretty much
[11:34] <cafuego> stribb: Pretty much, provided you use a supported player.
[11:34] <ossie> #xgl
[11:35] <stribb> cafuego: totem is the only one that came with the install. That do?
[11:36] <roshlame> stribb, just get mplayer, and you have no more multimedia problems :)
[11:36] <cafuego> stribb: it should, as far as I know  (I use vlc, got odd issues with totem)
[11:36] <screechingcat> stribb, just do sudo apt-get install totem-xine libxine-extracodecs
[11:37] <iLLf8d> screechingcat, yeah totem can be sketchy at times for some reason
[11:37] <screechingcat> iLLf8d, totem-xine is pretty solid
[11:37] <stribb> It wants me to downgrade totem
[11:37] <stribb> s/it/aptitude
[11:38] <screechingcat> scribb : it should want u to remove totem-gstreamer
[11:38] <eBs|Jack> has anyone successfully booted and installed from usbstick ?
[11:39] <screechingcat> mwe has
[11:39] <eBs|Jack> yea but hes not answering here or in his pms
[11:40] <MrRio> hey
[11:40] <eBs|Jack> well ive done it with knoppix but i didnt have any problems
[11:41] <MrRio> i've found a crasher on evince for a pdf document
[11:41] <screechingcat> MrRio, file a bug report
[11:42] <eBs|Jack> actually its very weird, it boots and goes fine until the base installation and then it complains that my cdrom is not mounted
[11:42] <eBs|Jack> if i try to mount it i get a copy error
[11:44] <MrRio> http://www.amusd.com/evince_crash.pdf
[11:44] <MrRio> does this crash anyone else's evince or is it just my system?
[11:44] <stribb> screechingcat: is it okay that it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop too?
[11:44] <ziro01> yo
[11:44] <stribb> That's just a matapackage?
[11:44] <stribb> meta
[11:44] <screechingcat> stribb : no problem
[11:44] <screechingcat> stribb : yeah
[11:45] <stribb> 250kB/sec download speed over wireless!
[11:45] <screechingcat> stribb, U PIRATE
[11:45] <alephant> Hi all...
[11:45] <stribb> Maybe I'm stealing from Google. They're in the next office.
[11:45] <sonium> is it possible to start a program in a way it has not internet access?
[11:45] <screechingcat> stribb, were is this ?
[11:45] <stribb> screechingcat: dublin
[11:46] <screechingcat> Ireland ?
[11:46] <RPG_gaim> HI, in the Ubuntu Server Edition, is there still an "update manager" that alerts you to download new software updates?
[11:46] <alephant> I'm running linux-image-server... and I want linux-restricted-modules -- which should I install? -386? -686? does it matter?
[11:46] <stribb> Last time I checked, yes
[11:46] <RPG_gaim> that's wonderful
[11:46] <alephant> sonium -- it really depends on what you're hoping to accomplish, and the program in question
[11:46] <alephant> sonium -- broadly, you can look at SELinux, that's exactly the kind of broad issue it's designed to solve
[11:47] <screechingcat> stribb,  its just that every place in europe prolly has a plac in the US of A named exaclty the same
[11:47] <sonium> I want to play a copy of quake4
[11:47] <LjL> sonium: dunno, i know that "tsocks" can transparently make programs use a SOCKS server rather than direct connection... so i guess if you configure it with a non-existent SOCKS server, they won't access the network
[11:47] <sonium> without a proper key
[11:47] <alephant> sonium -- but note that SELinux isn't for the faint of heart
[11:47] <LjL> sonium: err, i'm not sure that's a kind of request you should make here.
[11:47] <stribb> screechingcat: not even the americans would be as insular to think they could specify that unqualified though, right?
[11:47] <alephant> sonium -- ah.  I'm not sure anyone here can/will help with pirated software :-/
[11:47] <MERLiiN> Hello
[11:47] <Die> oi
[11:47] <stribb> anyway, that works beautifully now thanks.
[11:47] <whurley> any one here have any idea if the bios setting can break the current ubuntu server installer on a dual proc AMD machine?
[11:47] <sonium> actually its a quite general question
[11:48] <whurley> (dual proc, not dual core)
[11:48] <alephant> stribb: don't you DARE downplay the potential insularity of Americans!  Insularity is a national virtue!
[11:48] <screechingcat> stribb, no prob. enjoy your avi
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[11:48] <LjL> sonium: yeah, you should have lied about the purpose though ;)
[11:48] <docmur> has anyone got gnome to upgrade to 2.16 in dapper with out it crashing
[11:48] <Die> I am having trouble with a second hard drive connected to my pc... it is also formatted with Ubuntu and will not show up in the file browser.
[11:48] <alephant> so anyway... anybody have an idea about my linux-restricted-modules paired with a -server kernel?
[11:48] <sivik> Die: did you mount it?
[11:49] <Die> I cant
[11:49] <Die> it wont show up
[11:49] <FlaX> !mkinitrd
[11:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mkinitrd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:49] <sonium> ok... I have bought the copy, but I don't want the game to do something stupid. I always have concerns about closed-source software
[11:50] <alephant> sonium -- can you simply unplug the cable?
[11:50] <shmulik> Hi, I've got Dapper on a MacBook Pro here, and the Atheros wifi card isn't connecting to any access points (but it looks like it can see them).  I've Googled, and it seems I need a newer version of madwifi-ng than what ships with 6.06.1, is that what I should try and get?
[11:50] <ktostaki> How can I see the intensity of my network? Is there some command which programs how much bytes download or upload per second?
[11:50] <LjL> sonium: whatever, whatever, anyway why not try my suggestion? it's naive, but it might work
[11:50] <docmur> whats a computer lol
[11:50] <alephant> ktostaki -- try ntop
[11:51] <b_9> how do I print a file from the command line ( I have a printer set up in the gui )
[11:51] <FlaX> Is there an equivalence for 'mkinitrd' ?
[11:51] <Die> can anyone help?
[11:51] <eBs|Jack> someone help me do a ubuntu boot and install from usbstick
[11:51] <ladydoor> !anyone
[11:51] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:51] <Die> I did
[11:51] <alephant> sonium, I know "unplug the cable" may sound a bit kneejerkish, but if your goal is to just play Quake and not build an entire huge solution for it... the simplest is often best.
[11:51] <Die> no one has an answer
[11:51] <sly> does anyone know if it's possible to run a edubuntu cd in live cd mode ?
[11:52] <alephant> sly -- did you try it?
[11:52] <alephant> Die, can you please give more detail beyond "it doesn't work"
[11:52] <screechingcat> sly : if its a live cd its very possible
[11:52] <sonium> I will try LjL's approach first
[11:52] <ktostaki> alephant: thx
[11:52] <ladydoor> Die: ok, do you know the device name? it's probably sdb. do ls /dev/sd*
[11:52] <sly> yes i try but i see no options
[11:52] <peppo> how can sudo'ing suddenly stop working in ubuntu? the main user is now getting a "deuz is not in the sudoers file" when trying to sudo.
[11:52] <Die> My second hard drive is plugged in but does not show up in the file browser... it is SDA1.
[11:53] <alephant> still wondering: what's the correct linux-restricted-modules-* deb to use with linux-image-server?
[11:53] <sly> I will search on the site where i shipped the cd
[11:53] <sly> thnak you
[11:54] <peppo> where's the documentation wiki?
[11:54] <ladydoor> Die: what's a file browser? ok, please do less /etc/fstab and see if there's a line for it there.
[11:54] <seeking1> im sure there exists a card that allows you to watch TV on your computer and record to your hard drive!  Is that correct?
[11:54] <stu_> hey, anyone here using an IBM thinkpad? wondering how to get the middle button to scroll like it does in windows
[11:54] <ladydoor> Die: actually, i don't care what that is. anyway, look for a line starting with /dev/sda1
[11:54] <alephant> Die: better yet: do a ``fdisk -l /dev/sdb''
[11:54] <ricky> hey guys/girls, could someone help me. I want to allowed the bittorrent port in firestarter cuz its going pretty slow
[11:54] <ladydoor> alephant: he said that it was sda1
[11:54] <Zoohouse> hello everyone
[11:55] <alephant> I thought he said his existing drive was sda
[11:55] <Die> that didnt do anything
[11:55] <Die> sorry
[11:55] <peppo> how can sudo stop working? this insane. can't su to root either
[11:55] <b_9> exit
[11:55] <ladydoor> Die: what do you mean it didn't do anything? you mean the line wasn't there?
[11:55] <Die> the line is not in fstab....
[11:56] <seeking1> anyone have ideas?
[11:56] <Die> and I tried to type that in to terminal..
[11:56] <Die> sorry newbie...
[11:56] <seeking1> Im sure there exists a card that allows you to watch TV on your computer and record to your hard drive!  Is that correct?  ANyone know please?
[11:56] <alephant> die, how do you know that the drive is /dev/sda1
[11:56] <peppo> can't ssh in as root either
[11:56] <Die> any TV in card man...
[11:56] <alephant> seeking1: yes, such a thing exists.
[11:56] <ladydoor> Die: ok, then you need to add it. first, back up your fstab:  sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak
[11:56] <Die> because i got it to work yesterday.... but now it's not there.
[11:56] <Zoohouse> I want to make a GIF image animation. Anyone know of a tool I can use? Something with a GUI. If you know of another app to make animation let me know (something where I can add clip art and such).
[11:56] <seeking1> alephant: what is it?
[11:56] <alephant> ladydoor: are you sure the drive is even visible to his system?
[11:57] <ladydoor> well, i assume he did look for it in /dev like i asked
[11:57] <ladydoor> alephant: well, i assume he did look for it in /dev like i asked
[11:57] <alephant> seeking1: stfw.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tv_tuner
[11:57] <alephant> ladydoor: you know what they say about assumptions, right?  ;-)
[11:57] <ladydoor> Die: ok, anyway, after you've backed it up, edit it:  sudo nano -w /etc/fstab
[11:58] <peppo> doing 'sudo app' yeilds: "user is not in sudoers file". running something like users-admin and entering the right password gives "Password is incorrect".
[11:58] <peppo> what to do when sudo is borked?
[11:58] <alephant> peppo: can you use plain old "su"?
[11:58] <peppo> alephant, no that's not allowed
[11:58] <alephant> peppo: did you set a root password?
[11:58] <ladydoor> alephant: they keep us alive? after all, if i couldn't assume that the world outside my door existed, i would *freak out*
[11:58] <alephant> i.e. console login as root?
[11:58] <peppo> alephant, no idea, this is a friend's system
[11:58] <peppo> I told him to log in in console
[11:59] <peppo> Sep 28 23:52:22 localhost sudo:     deuz : user NOT in sudoers ; TTY=pts/1 ; PW
[11:59] <ladydoor> Die: let me know when you're ready to go on. also, please make sure your system can see it and do ls /dev/sd*. if it's not there, that's bad news.
[11:59] <Die> ready
[11:59] <seeking1> alephant: whats stfw?
[11:59] <Die> what line do i put in?
[11:59] <alephant> ladydoor: yeah, I've been on that acid trip before.  But I meant pragmatically, my preference would be to absolutely verify that this guy's box can actually see his hdd before I went handholding an edit of fstab.  YMMV
[11:59] <iLLf8d> anyone know if theres a way to reset the child process ssh-agent the child of gdm w/out leaving and restarting gdm?
[11:59] <eBs|Jack> someone help me do the usbstick boot and install please?
[11:59] <alephant> !stfw
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stfw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <Die> as far as I can see..... my system is not seeing it.... but I really am a noob.
[12:00] <ladydoor> Die: ok then...something like this
[12:00] <alephant> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#rtfm
[12:00] <alephant> seeking1: follow that link and come back when you understand
[12:01] <peppo> what's the default sudoers line for a user?