| DaSkreech | THey got married and he talked her into spending the honeymoon at a KDE codefest :) | 12:12 |
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| Riddell | she insists it isn't a honeymoon | 12:12 |
| DaSkreech | Riddell is in the pic as well | 12:12 |
| DaSkreech | Ha ha :) | 12:12 |
| DaSkreech | What's her phrasing? | 12:12 |
| Kuhrscher | Tonio_ Done :) | 12:12 |
| Riddell | I look like I havn't showered for three days (which I hadn't) | 12:12 |
| nixternal | nice legs Riddell! ;) | 12:12 |
| Riddell | her phrasing was "It's not a honeymoon!" | 12:13 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: sorry, I didn't upload the good changes file for kss, you should have received a notification | 12:14 |
| Kuhrscher | Good night. Bye. | 12:17 |
| Tonio_ | nite Kuhrscher | 12:17 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hehe, cool on the photo :) | 12:18 |
| nixternal | well, us KDE people can't brag that we got the secksiest hackers ;) | 12:18 |
| imbrandon | jdong, ktorrent uploaded | 12:18 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: argh ! I already did :) | 12:18 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, wow rockin photo ( with the strengi ) | 12:18 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: will be rejected probably | 12:18 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_, !! | 12:18 |
| jdong | imbrandon / Tonio_ hehe :) | 12:19 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: sorry I told there I did it | 12:19 |
| imbrandon | jdong, did you ask two of us to do it ? | 12:19 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: he asked both, and I said it was uploaded :) | 12:19 |
| jdong | imbrandon: no, Tonio_ found the bug report | 12:19 |
| imbrandon | heh i told him the day he gave me the patch i would upload it, welp it looks like one will get rejected | 12:19 |
| jdong | imbrandon: i didn't intentionally try to ask two of you guys to do it out of impatience... honest | 12:20 |
| nixternal | how come seaLne looks like he was holding back a gut busting laugh? | 12:20 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: the important thing is that the patch is uploaded :) | 12:20 |
| imbrandon | jdong, well i told you the day you made the patch and i checked it i would upload ;) BE PATIENT hehe | 12:20 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: not a big issue if one is rejected | 12:21 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_, no no real biggie | 12:21 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_, its just the point /me glares at jdong some more hehe | 12:21 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: sorry I though you were looking at the channel log hehe :) | 12:21 |
| === jdong goes off to the corner to cry | ||
| Tonio_ | jdong: yeah, 15 minutes, at least, you deserve it ! | 12:22 |
| jdong | waaaaah.... imbrandon and Tonio_ are being mean to me.... waaaaaah | 12:22 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_, no i dident read the log becouse it dident seem nessesary days ago when he asked ;) | 12:22 |
| Tonio_ | [jeu sep 28 2006] [21:22:37] <jdong> Tonio_ / imbrandon: ktorrent ok to upload now? btw topic should probably be updated s/knot3/beta | 12:22 |
| Tonio_ | the channel never lies ^^ | 12:22 |
| Tonio_ | hehe :) | 12:22 |
| Tonio_ | okay let's go somewhere else | 12:22 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: using english language on the desktop yes ? | 12:22 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: I need to confirm that a python issue is due to translations... | 12:23 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: possible for you to launch /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/wineconfig.py | 12:23 |
| imbrandon | yup it launched | 12:24 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: no issue ? | 12:24 |
| imbrandon | i dont have wine installed but it worked | 12:24 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: yeah, and what is you install wine ? | 12:24 |
| imbrandon | other than the .wine dir dident exist, the dialog worked | 12:24 |
| === Tonio_ insists like a child :) | ||
| imbrandon | heh | 12:25 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: yeah same here, but when wine is installed, if goes further, and by the end I get this : | 12:25 |
| Riddell | I know what the next release is going to be called! | 12:25 |
| Tonio_ | UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe9' in position 11: ordinal not in range(128) | 12:25 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 | 12:25 |
| imbrandon | do tell ? | 12:25 |
| Tonio_ | I suppose this is due to french translation since the character seems to be '' | 12:25 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: NOOOOOOOOO please don't say this ! | 12:26 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_, ok lemme grab a shower then i'll test better | 12:26 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: you cannot keep it a secret now ! | 12:26 |
| === imbrandon jumps up and down like a child | ||
| Riddell | I'll give you a clue... | 12:26 |
| Riddell | it begins with "F" | 12:26 |
| DaSkreech | It starts with a F | 12:26 |
| imbrandon | hahahahahaha | 12:26 |
| DaSkreech | hahahaha | 12:26 |
| imbrandon | common !?! | 12:27 |
| === Tonio_ votes for core-dev to be prompted the info in private | ||
| imbrandon | hehe | 12:27 |
| Tonio_ | ^_^ | 12:27 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_, +1 | 12:27 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 12:27 |
| Tonio_ | we'll keep the secret :) | 12:27 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, serouisly is he gonna announce it soon i presume | 12:27 |
| Riddell | he says he's writing an e-mail to ubuntu-devel | 12:27 |
| Tonio_ | let me guess... "F*uckin' falcon" ? | 12:28 |
| imbrandon | wow , rockin | 12:28 |
| Tonio_ | hehe, that would rock :) | 12:28 |
| === imbrandon hopes it wont be toooooo silly | ||
| Riddell | imbrandon: don't get your hopes up too high :) | 12:29 |
| imbrandon | lol | 12:29 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: frog or falcon ? ;) | 12:29 |
| imbrandon | ferret | 12:29 |
| Riddell | nope | 12:29 |
| DaSkreech | Flamingo | 12:29 |
| DaSkreech | Flaming Flamingo :) | 12:29 |
| imbrandon | omg not a flamingo | 12:29 |
| Riddell | no no | 12:29 |
| DaSkreech | Fuzzy-Wuzzy | 12:30 |
| Tonio_ | "foomatic fix" the release focussing on printing :) | 12:30 |
| Tonio_ | haha | 12:30 |
| imbrandon | man Riddell has me hitting "get new mail" every 10 seconds | 12:30 |
| imbrandon | lol | 12:30 |
| imbrandon | gah , and i was just about to hit the shower | 12:30 |
| imbrandon | ... | 12:31 |
| === Tonio_ creates a rule on his webserver to forward every mail to his cellphone :) | ||
| Tonio_ | I don't wanna miss it | 12:31 |
| imbrandon | haha | 12:31 |
| nixternal | hrmm..my other packages didn't make it i guess ;( da freeze is in effect | 12:31 |
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| Tonio_ | imbrandon: no issues with wine installed ? | 12:32 |
| DaSkreech | Flagelating Pheromes? | 12:32 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_, i havent installed it yet, i was gonna hit the shower and get some food first if thats ok | 12:32 |
| imbrandon | i have to do it on the lappy as i have cxoffice installed on this box and cxoffice and wine proper dont mix | 12:33 |
| imbrandon | /well/ | 12:33 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: hehe, you do what you want :) | 12:33 |
| nixternal | woohoo...i know now ;) | 12:34 |
| nixternal | i can't believe they would pick that name either | 12:34 |
| imbrandon | wha !?! | 12:35 |
| imbrandon | how does nixternal know ? | 12:35 |
| DaSkreech | It was flagellating? | 12:36 |
| DaSkreech | Oh no it wasn't :-( | 12:36 |
| DaSkreech | Yeah I wouldn't guess that either | 12:36 |
| DaSkreech | stupid eft :-P | 12:36 |
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| imbrandon | ... | 12:38 |
| nixternal | ;) | 12:38 |
| nixternal | and the name is... | 12:41 |
| nixternal | The | 12:41 |
| nixternal | Foofy Ferret! | 12:41 |
| nixternal | i can't believe you all are hording your "Send/Receive" buttons so much right now, that this channel has gone dead | 12:41 |
| imbrandon | lol | 12:42 |
| DaSkreech | Konversation doesn't have a button | 12:42 |
| DaSkreech | if your keyboard dies you are SOL | 12:42 |
| nixternal | im just hitting "ctrl+r" on ff and the list ;) | 12:42 |
| DaSkreech | Damn it I'm going to have to go home | 12:47 |
| nixternal | we will let you know when you get home | 12:48 |
| nixternal | don't worry...it is all a hoax anyways ;) | 12:48 |
| === DaSkreech puts fingers in ears and signs muwahananananananana | ||
| === nixternal is leaving "rumor" names everywhere...and quit messaging, i really don't know what it is ;) | ||
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| imbrandon | Riddellllllllllllllllllllllllllllll still no email hehehehehe | 01:35 |
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| Riddell | imbrandon: I can't even remember what it is now, it probably wasn't that interesting :) | 01:47 |
| Riddell | this is fun http://www.debianadmin.com/kubuntu-606-lts-installation-with-screenshots.html | 01:47 |
| imbrandon | haha nice | 01:49 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: digikam main inclusion report is still unreviewed..... | 01:50 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: canonical got a new security dude today, maybe pitti will have some spare time | 01:50 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yeah I know is has tremendous amount of work, but is there another person that i can ping instead ? | 01:51 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: no, only pitti does the reviews | 01:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay, let's try again :) | 01:51 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: cdbs fixed? and how do I get qcomicbook to rebuild now? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+source/qcomicbook | 02:13 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: having a look.... | 02:16 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: I'll upload cdbs in a bit, was waiting for beta to be over | 02:23 |
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| ryanakca | Riddell: kk | 02:25 |
| ryanakca | is beta over? | 02:26 |
| === ryanakca has some things to add to k-d-s... | ||
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: it'll not build in it's current state...... | 02:27 |
| Tonio_ | there is no admin folder in the tarball | 02:27 |
| ryanakca | Tonio_: ??? | 02:27 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: that's it...... | 02:27 |
| Tonio_ | I'm investigating | 02:27 |
| ryanakca | yes, that's a problem with CDBS that Riddell has fixed and is waiting to upload :) | 02:28 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: doesn't build here actually... | 02:28 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: yeah okay | 02:28 |
| === ryanakca points at the cdbs problem | ||
| ryanakca | :) | 02:28 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: the problem is more than it is not a kde application, but a qt app | 02:28 |
| Tonio_ | doesn't build-dep on kdelibs4-dev and we shouldn't use kde.mk cdbs rules | 02:29 |
| ryanakca | ah | 02:29 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: need to redo the packaging completly I think | 02:29 |
| ryanakca | so, where will it get QT? | 02:29 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: libgt3-mt ;) | 02:29 |
| ryanakca | well, not completly... | 02:29 |
| ryanakca | just edit rules and control | 02:29 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: let me test, a moment :) | 02:29 |
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| Tonio_ | ryanakca: rebuilding control and rules, is almost all the packaging :) the rest is just administrative stuff :) | 02:32 |
| ryanakca | lol | 02:32 |
| Tonio_ | I don't understand how could this have been uploaded | 02:33 |
| ryanakca | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth needs to be updated... it talks about what color dapper will be, and if dapper will meet the June 2006 release... | 02:33 |
| Tonio_ | did that ever build ? | 02:33 |
| ryanakca | did what? qcomicbook? | 02:33 |
| ryanakca | yes, perfectly... | 02:33 |
| ryanakca | Rid'dell built it, I built it, imbra'ndon built it. | 02:34 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: that's a nonsense :) | 02:34 |
| Tonio_ | or at least the packaging was different, that's obvious | 02:34 |
| ryanakca | s/built/pbuilt | 02:34 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: ........ weird | 02:34 |
| ryanakca | hmm... very | 02:34 |
| Tonio_ | in any case we should upgrade to latest version which requires uvf exception report | 02:35 |
| ryanakca | ??? | 02:35 |
| ryanakca | lost me there... english please :) | 02:35 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: universe branch is frozen now for new upstream version | 02:36 |
| Tonio_ | so we need to prepare package and write a report | 02:36 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: the strange point is I don't understand how could that have build with kde.mk cdbs rules...... that absolutly impossible..... | 02:37 |
| === ryanakca offers to unbzip2 and untar his backups from last week's fresh install (at long last) and send you a .deb of it... | ||
| Tonio_ | the packaging is really to re-do | 02:42 |
| Tonio_ | no man page..... | 02:42 |
| Tonio_ | okay let's go, I'm doing it | 02:42 |
| ryanakca | ??? | 02:43 |
| === ryanakca can make a man page in a flash... kdemangen.pl | ||
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| === ryanakca dgetted the source... how do I extract it again? | ||
| ryanakca | Tonio_: ?? | 02:46 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: forget this, there is one but it is hidden :) | 02:47 |
| ryanakca | lol, so there is a man page? | 02:47 |
| imbrandon | dpkg-source -x file.dsc | 02:47 |
| Tonio_ | I don't understand this application's structure...... | 02:47 |
| Tonio_ | icons in "fedora" folder...... that's crappy | 02:47 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: yes there is one | 02:47 |
| ryanakca | imbrandon: thanks | 02:48 |
| Tonio_ | honnestly, that's very weird...... | 02:48 |
| ryanakca | yes *remembers adding stuff to rules about the fedora dir* | 02:48 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: did that ever built for you ? | 02:48 |
| ryanakca | very... | 02:48 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_, yes me and Riddell both built and reviewed it | 02:48 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: how can a pure QT app build with kde.mk cdbs rules ? :) | 02:49 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: there is something I'd like to be teached there :) | 02:49 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: that's not a kde app :) | 02:49 |
| imbrandon | tbh i havent looked at it in weeks, i would have to go back and look | 02:49 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: well I'm redoing the packaging as a normal qt application | 02:50 |
| Tonio_ | should be resolved tomorrow | 02:50 |
| imbrandon | okies, just work with ryanakca on it so he can learn ;) that was his baby | 02:51 |
| ryanakca | it is :) | 02:51 |
| === ryanakca needs to learn... *keeps the goal of becoming a motu in mind*... even though it'll take a couple of decades before that happenes... | ||
| imbrandon | ;) | 02:51 |
| ryanakca | imbrandon: when is beta freeze over? sometime today, I know that... | 02:52 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: should be over now | 02:52 |
| imbrandon | should be over now but the queue still seems in manual mode | 02:52 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: in fact I'll continue to use cdbs but with makefile.mk instead of kde.mk | 02:53 |
| ryanakca | kk, so any changes to k-d-s should be up, and then I can redownload it and add my changes? | 02:53 |
| ryanakca | ermm... | 02:53 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, the backports for amarok and konversation got processed today and now are upto par with edgy | 02:53 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yeah, but in fact the issue is due to packaging too :) | 02:53 |
| crimsun | imbrandon: (well, kamion and infinity deserve a bit of a break...) | 02:53 |
| === ryanakca wonders about you setting something up so that I know what your doing to my baby... | ||
| imbrandon | crimsun, definately , i was just noteing it ;) | 02:53 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: rock, please add to UWM | 02:54 |
| Riddell | UWN | 02:54 |
| imbrandon | cool ok | 02:55 |
| imbrandon | also libmtp is out of the NEW queue too si i can test amarok with it and poke pitti about the MIR tomarrow^Wlater today | 02:56 |
| ryanakca | Tonio_: mind explaining what your doing so that I can do it on this side as well? | 02:56 |
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| Tonio_ | ryanakca: I'm simply rebuilding a rule file using makefile.mk instead of kde.mk, and changing control file for correct builddeps | 02:58 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: I'm not very used at packaging qt apps, so I have to make a few tests to be sure it is okay ;) | 02:58 |
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| imbrandon | [19:58] <Tonio_> ryanakca: I'm simply rebuilding a rule file using makefile.mk instead of kde.mk, and changing control file for correct builddeps | 02:59 |
| imbrandon | [19:58] <Tonio_> ryanakca: I'm not very used at packaging qt apps, so I have to make a few tests to be sure it is okay ;) | 02:59 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: thanks :) | 02:59 |
| ryanakca | ah, kk, ty | 03:01 |
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| ryanakca | Tonio_: I'm heading to bed, lemme know how it goes in the morning/tommorow afternoon | 03:21 |
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| nixternal | <awbassett_> "I want to die in my sleep like my grandfather...Not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car...." | 04:00 |
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| imbrandon | nixternal, thats just ..... wrong | 04:02 |
| nixternal | haha | 04:02 |
| jjesse | funny but wrong :) | 04:02 |
| nixternal | i almost spit dr. pepper out on that one | 04:03 |
| jjesse | i see beta is out, congrats guys | 04:03 |
| nixternal | in otherwords, i almost sinned | 04:03 |
| imbrandon | nixternal, whats the url to woth UWN work in progress page ? | 04:07 |
| imbrandon | i have a few things to stick in there | 04:07 |
| nixternal | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter | 04:07 |
| imbrandon | thanks | 04:08 |
| nixternal | yp | 04:08 |
| nixternal | hypfda | 04:08 |
| nixternal | ya that | 04:08 |
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| Hobbsee | morning all | 04:15 |
| jjesse | morning Hobbsee | 04:15 |
| imbrandon | heya Hobbsee | 04:16 |
| Hobbsee | jjesse: :) | 04:16 |
| Hobbsee | hey imbrandon | 04:16 |
| jjesse | how are you Hobbsee? | 04:16 |
| === Hobbsee found out today what happens if you ignore a whiteout - you blackout :P | ||
| jjesse | sorry haven't been on much, i'm working at a client until christmas that blocks IRC | 04:16 |
| Hobbsee | jjesse: ahhh...fair enough | 04:16 |
| jjesse | so i follow up when i can:) | 04:17 |
| Hobbsee | fair enough | 04:17 |
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| imbrandon | nice | 04:34 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee are you on the -art ML ? | 04:34 |
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| imbrandon | From: Mark Shuttleworth <mark@canonical.com> | 04:35 |
| imbrandon | To: Kenneth Wimer <kwwii@bootsplash.org>, Ubuntu Art Team <ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com> | 04:36 |
| imbrandon | CC: Jonathan Riddell <jriddell@ubuntu.com> | 04:36 |
| imbrandon | 04:36 | |
| imbrandon | ...just upgrade to Edgy on my Kubuntu desktop. It's.... wow. A thing of | 04:36 |
| imbrandon | great beauty. Well done Ken. | 04:36 |
| imbrandon | Mark | 04:36 |
| imbrandon | now thats just rockin | 04:36 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: qcomicbook uploaded | 04:36 |
| imbrandon | cool | 04:37 |
| Tonio_ | I had hard time trying to play with makefile.mk | 04:37 |
| Tonio_ | it failed for some strange reason I don't know.... | 04:37 |
| Tonio_ | honnestly, qcomicbook sources are strange........ | 04:37 |
| Tonio_ | finaly I did manually just using debhelper.mk and that was fine | 04:37 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 04:38 |
| Tonio_ | I'll make a point tomorrow with ryanakca | 04:38 |
| imbrandon | cool , thanks Tonio_ he is really trying to learn and that was his first package | 04:40 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: and not the easiest, since the sources are really crappy | 04:41 |
| Tonio_ | desktop file in a "fedora" folder, not installed via makefiles etc....... | 04:42 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: no i'm not | 04:45 |
| Hobbsee | nice! | 04:45 |
| imbrandon | yea that was just sent moments ago | 04:45 |
| imbrandon | i dident thionk you were | 04:45 |
| imbrandon | think* | 04:45 |
| imbrandon | Riddell and kwwii will be happy also i'm sure ;) | 04:46 |
| imbrandon | ugh i hate uvfe's i missed it by one day | 04:47 |
| imbrandon | bbiab to finish this uvf report | 04:47 |
| Tonio_ | I think kwwii can be proud of him :) | 04:59 |
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| lastnode | hey guys, i was just wondering if anyone would be willing to throw up a quick qt frontend for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Upstream . the gtk one is already written, but it's been really hard nailing down a py-qt guy. | 06:47 |
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| nixternal | my screen colors are so bad..i can't tell what color my webpage is...i have 2 machines, and each display the same page in different colors..i so wish my display config worked in kubuntu ;) | 07:39 |
| imbrandon | nixternal, fixit kthxbye | 07:41 |
| nixternal | omg i will kill you | 07:41 |
| nixternal | ;) | 07:41 |
| nixternal | dude, you goin' to cali? | 07:41 |
| imbrandon | hopefully, i'll find out on the second | 07:41 |
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| nixternal | i have 3 out of 5 instructors giving me mid-term week off, and letting me finish them either before or after....the other 2 are jerks | 07:42 |
| nixternal | i told them it is business, and they both said the same thing, " you should have taken that into account before starting college" | 07:42 |
| nixternal | i purchased a ticket, and i am staying at a (girl)friends house | 07:43 |
| nixternal | if i go | 07:43 |
| nixternal | actually, i used frequent flyer miles, so i didn't purchase anything | 07:43 |
| nixternal | and it is refundable just in case | 07:43 |
| imbrandon | heh | 07:43 |
| nixternal | i can't afford a hotel, but this girl lives 3 or 4 miles from the plex | 07:44 |
| imbrandon | cutiecoder ? | 07:44 |
| imbrandon | bwhahaha | 07:44 |
| nixternal | dude..you want to die for real i think ;) | 07:44 |
| nixternal | don't make me start with the "rumors" | 07:44 |
| nixternal | ;) | 07:44 |
| nixternal | i couldn't imagine being in the vacinity of that chick...i would kill myself | 07:45 |
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| freeflying_ | Riddell: ping | 09:30 |
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| GNUro | hi1 | 10:26 |
| GNUro | Hi! | 10:26 |
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| GNUro | i think that i've find a bug.. systemsettings>Monitor&Display>Power Saving> switch off monitor are resetted everytime you reboot the machine. Anyone can confirm? | 10:29 |
| GNUro | Someone.. :P | 10:31 |
| Hobbsee | there's already a bug in power saving somewhere, iirc. | 10:33 |
| Hobbsee | check in the source package kde-guidance on malone | 10:33 |
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| Riddell | I see freespire have bought an advert against "kubuntu" on google | 01:03 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: heya. did the new knm get approved? | 01:03 |
| abattoir | hmmm... "What is Ubuntu Missing?" comes against ubuntu too | 01:04 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee not yet, I'm waiting for mdz | 01:04 |
| Tonio_ | hi everyone :) | 01:04 |
| abattoir | hi Tonio_ :) | 01:05 |
| abattoir | and Hobbsee and Riddell :) | 01:05 |
| Hobbsee | heya abattoir | 01:05 |
| abattoir | "Is Ubuntu Special" seems to be the other ad | 01:06 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: hum, main looks like still locked... only my universe uploads have gone in so far | 01:15 |
| Riddell | I'm not sure who the best person to ask about that is | 01:22 |
| Riddell | probably tollef or kamion at this time of day | 01:22 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: see #u-d | 01:27 |
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| mhb | hello everyone | 01:34 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay thanks :) | 01:35 |
| mhb | Riddell: do you remember when I was talking about the langpacks that were 50% in Czech and 50% English? And you advised me to wait with it until beta? | 01:38 |
| Riddell | yes | 01:38 |
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| Tonio_ | mhb: same problem with french, it is now resolved... | 01:39 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: doesn't work for you ? | 01:39 |
| mhb | Riddell: well, you were right, 90% got solved, but there are two apps that didn't | 01:39 |
| mhb | sadly, they are used quite often - Adept (family) and Systemsettings | 01:40 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: I could have bet it :) | 01:40 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: concerning adept, that's known issue | 01:40 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: concerning systemsettings, should work (at least works here) | 01:41 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: is it translated on rosetta ? | 01:42 |
| mhb | 100% (by myself) | 01:42 |
| mhb | both of them | 01:42 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: hum... I must say I'm not an expert reguarding to those translations problem... Riddell might have the key | 01:43 |
| Riddell | adept is to do with not loading translations from libept | 01:43 |
| Riddell | systemsettings I'm not sure, might be the modules not loading or might be the .desktop files not being translated | 01:44 |
| mhb | Riddell: well, I translated the systemsettings-desktop, too | 01:45 |
| mhb | Riddell: concerning adept, is there a bug in LP (Tonio_ said it is well-known)? | 01:46 |
| mhb | it's probably this one | 01:49 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: the point is systemsettings works here, so we can exclude modules loading | 01:49 |
| mhb | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/adept/+bug/47181 | 01:49 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 47181 in ept "broken localisation support" [Medium,Confirmed] | 01:49 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: when did you ? | 01:49 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I fixed ryanakca's qcomicbook package.... I'll make a point with him on what were the issues | 01:50 |
| mhb | Tonio_: when did I translated it? A week or so ago. | 01:50 |
| mhb | (have I) | 01:50 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: that's normal then, translations package need to be rebuilt | 01:50 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: last sync was about 10 days ago afaicr | 01:50 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: that will hopefully happen before RC | 01:51 |
| mhb | Tonio_: any way I can check it before the sync? Use the .mo export function from Rosetta? | 01:52 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: yup, you can do that way | 01:52 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: ping me when you are there, would be nice to make a point of the changes I did to the package | 01:53 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: the goos news is that it is in universe and builds now | 01:53 |
| mhb | hmmm... I updated the .mo file with the one from Rosetta, but somehow the systemsettings package still doesn't use the translations from it | 02:17 |
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| GNUro | hi | 02:20 |
| mhb | GNUro: hi | 02:26 |
| GNUro | mhb: :) | 02:27 |
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| bddebian | Howdy | 02:31 |
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| cmvo | Hi! Where do iso's usually appear first? For me http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/edgy/ still only contains knot-3. | 05:03 |
| abattoir | cmvo: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/edgy-beta.php | 05:06 |
| jdong | cmvo: beta, and rc and final are released to releases.ubuntu.com | 05:07 |
| jdong | cmvo: knots/arrays/dailies are on cdimage | 05:07 |
| cmvo | abattoir: Thanks, looking in the wrong place :-) | 05:08 |
| abattoir | cmvo: no problem at all :) | 05:09 |
| cmvo | jdong: Thank you too! Didn't know about releases.ubuntu.com | 05:09 |
| cmvo | Now for the download :-) | 05:09 |
| abattoir | he is busy fighting w/ his computer ;) | 05:09 |
| jdong | :) | 05:11 |
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| mhb | well, the bug 47181 is getting on my nerve :oI | 05:45 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 47181 in ept "broken localisation support" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/47181 | 05:45 |
| mhb | anyone tried to fix it? It's currently assigned to nobody ... | 05:46 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: adept's developper, mornfall, should be looking at it | 05:50 |
| Kuhrscher | Tonio_ I asked him about it some days ago, but I did not have the impression he will fix it... | 05:51 |
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| Tonio_ | Kuhrscher: ah... | 05:53 |
| mhb | Kuhrscher: it's the same pain in the neck for you, I guess :o) | 05:53 |
| Kuhrscher | mhb: Yes... | 05:53 |
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| mhb | Kuhrscher: does mornfall come here sometimes or should I contact him by e-mail? | 06:02 |
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| Hawkwind | mhb: He comes here from time to time | 06:03 |
| Hawkwind | !seen mornfall | 06:03 |
| ubotu | mornfall is on IRC right now! | 06:03 |
| Hawkwind | Hah, just not in this channel | 06:03 |
| mhb | Hawkwind: thanks | 06:04 |
| mhb | Hawkwind: hm... he's away | 06:05 |
| Hawkwind | Yep | 06:05 |
| Kuhrscher | mhb: I talked to him via IRC | 06:06 |
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| === abattoir wonders why the dot has become a place for "kubuntu bashing" | ||
| abattoir | but i guess its best to avoid those individuals... | 06:20 |
| abattoir | (or corporations) | 06:20 |
| jdong | KUBUNTU SUCKS :D | 06:21 |
| jdong | lol | 06:21 |
| jpatrick | jdong: really? | 06:21 |
| jdong | jpatrick: LINSPIRE FOREVER | 06:22 |
| abattoir | hehe, lol :D | 06:22 |
| toma | abattoir: simply not read user comments on general news items... | 06:22 |
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| abattoir | toma: sometimes the feedback is useful or helpful | 06:22 |
| abattoir | but i guess we really should ignore stuff like this | 06:23 |
| abattoir | or rather I ;) | 06:23 |
| toma | abattoir: comments on the dot are seldom interesting | 06:23 |
| jpatrick | abattoir: "And you are idiotware." -- nice | 06:25 |
| abattoir | jpatrick: yes :D | 06:25 |
| abattoir | i guess it was offtopic for me to get it in here ;) | 06:25 |
| abattoir | sorry | 06:25 |
| jdong | pfff, <flamesuit>nothing important ever happens in #kubuntu-devel</flamesuit> | 06:26 |
| mhb | Riddell, Tonio_ : it looks like the systemsettings simply ignores the desktop_kde-systemsettings.mo translations | 06:28 |
| mhb | at least here | 06:28 |
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| Kuhrscher | mhb: I fear there are some more problems like this... | 06:36 |
| Kuhrscher | mhb: hwdb-client-kde ignores the installed translation too | 06:36 |
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| toma | notranslationware | 06:37 |
| Kuhrscher | hwdb-client? | 06:38 |
| toma | Kuhrscher: ignore me | 06:39 |
| Kuhrscher | toma: Ok ;-) | 06:40 |
| mhb | Kuhrscher: yeah, I think it's the same in Czech | 06:42 |
| mhb | Kuhrscher: already filed a bug? | 06:42 |
| Kuhrscher | mhb: yes | 06:42 |
| Kuhrscher | https://launchpad.net/bugs/62866 | 06:43 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 62866 in hwdb-client "Translation broken in Kubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 06:43 |
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| mhb | Kuhrscher: I'll look at it and possibly confirm it later, thanks for the link | 06:52 |
| mhb | bbl | 06:53 |
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| toma | el: i'm developing a new mailclient and posted a mockup for the composer, if you have time, I would appreciate to know your opinion very much. | 07:04 |
| el | Toma, hi | 07:06 |
| el | toma, you posted it in your blog? | 07:06 |
| toma | el: hi, yes. | 07:06 |
| el | toma, on planetkde? mom, have a look... | 07:06 |
| el | toma, in your mockup, the address area takes a lot of space. but most of the mails which are sent go to a small number of recipients only | 07:12 |
| el | so it takes quite a lot of space. | 07:12 |
| toma | el: i figured most people do not compose mails fullscreen, so the space is available for other things | 07:13 |
| el | toma, hm... they don't use it full screen, but that's not a reason to make the window larger than it needs to be. the smaller the composer, the easier to use other windows for reference | 07:14 |
| toma | el: one of the comments suggested to use a pulldown for to,cc,bcc instead of three columns with checkboxes | 07:14 |
| el | toma, also, the strict separation of custom email and address book is difficult. you have to think if you want to add an email address or know a name. or do you plan completion for the above line edit? | 07:14 |
| toma | el: yes, i can merge them to one line edit: search in addressbook and an add button behind it for the case it is not in the address book | 07:15 |
| el | toma, i agree for the pulldown. | 07:16 |
| toma | okay | 07:16 |
| el | toma, when you merge them in one line edit > where do you show the results from the address book? still in the bottom panel or in a minicli completion? | 07:17 |
| toma | el: what would you recommend? I'm not sure how users think of the autocompletion | 07:17 |
| toma | el: the one I asked all relied on autocompletion though | 07:18 |
| el | toma, i think autocompletion in the line edit works pretty well. we did some tests with the kmail composer (i think 2 years ago) | 07:18 |
| el | toma, and people expected auto completion | 07:18 |
| toma | el: but i know windows users who call us when there addressbook is gone in outlooks composer | 07:19 |
| el | toma, if you list the addresses in the panel on bottom, users have a very long way from entering the name to actually selecting the recipient | 07:19 |
| toma | hmm, ok. autocompletion saves a lot of room... | 07:19 |
| el | toma, yeah, you should still provide access to the address book. people not only search for names, but also by company, position, etc. | 07:19 |
| el | toma, you still use kaddressbook? | 07:20 |
| toma | el: no ;-) | 07:20 |
| el | toma, so you got your own addressbook? or another one? | 07:21 |
| toma | el: fo this emailclient you mean? | 07:21 |
| el | toma, yes, for this email client | 07:21 |
| toma | el: o ok, I will use kaddressbook for that, yes | 07:22 |
| toma | but i don't want all kinds off popup's, so I rather inteegrate it in the composer | 07:23 |
| el | toma, the cases where users actually need to go into the address book to search are a rather small proportion. so if you go for name/email completion in the composer, and provide a picker with (a bit) more advanced search facilities, that should be fine | 07:23 |
| el | toma, but you shouldn't integrate something in the main window which is only used in 5% of the cases (if at all) | 07:23 |
| toma | el: ok, I'll make it a collapsable part of the composer | 07:24 |
| el | toma, that sounds better. | 07:24 |
| toma | but that means the section with to/cc/bcc has to move above the subject part again | 07:25 |
| el | toma, yes, i think that's better. | 07:25 |
| toma | hm, hm | 07:26 |
| el | toma, then the widgets have more width, so you can display the full name and email address without ... | 07:26 |
| el | toma, the items in the list are still editable, no? | 07:27 |
| toma | should be | 07:27 |
| el | fine :) | 07:27 |
| toma | but it's going to look a lot like kmails composer. | 07:28 |
| el | toma, it's going to look a lot like every email client ;-) | 07:28 |
| toma | when there a lot of receipients you need to scroll etc | 07:29 |
| toma | i'm not happy with that | 07:29 |
| el | toma, yes, i know. but having it to the left means that you'll mostly see only half of the names. and you really waste space when you have only 1 or 2 recipients | 07:30 |
| el | toma, who is that mail client for? company usage, private or all? | 07:30 |
| toma | online imap only, so that would rule out most private users | 07:30 |
| el | ah, ok.... | 07:31 |
| el | toma, do you have data how many recipients mails usually have in that context? | 07:31 |
| toma | el: no, but you are probably right, more then 5 would be rare | 07:32 |
| el | toma, in large companies they often have incredibly long cc lists (hehe, not the best habit imho, but well...) | 07:32 |
| toma | true | 07:33 |
| toma | maybe i can use a qsplitter, so you can resize it | 07:33 |
| el | jupp | 07:33 |
| el | toma, where exactly do you plan to put the address book then? | 07:34 |
| toma | maybe behind a tab on the left, like digikam has | 07:35 |
| === el starts digikam... | ||
| el | uh, digikam not installed... | 07:35 |
| === el installs digikam | ||
| el | hmmm.... digikam crashes at startup :-| | 07:38 |
| toma | hmm | 07:39 |
| toma | you have a small tab like thingie on the left, and when you click on it, it expands | 07:39 |
| el | toma, do you know how thudnerbird does it? | 07:39 |
| el | toma, a bit like a docker? that's what thunderbird has | 07:39 |
| el | toma, quite handy | 07:39 |
| toma | el: a yes. | 07:39 |
| el | toma, yes, that's fine. | 07:40 |
| toma | el: ok, I'll have to go (visitors arriving any sec), thanks _a lot_ for your input. I plan to work on it this weekend... | 07:40 |
| el | toma, ping me > i'll be at akademy till sat evening | 07:40 |
| el | then monday back online in berlinb | 07:40 |
| toma | el: great! bye | 07:41 |
| el | bye - have a nice evening :) | 07:41 |
| toma | thnxs | 07:41 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: all the main uploads have just been commited to the repos | 08:02 |
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| seaLne | oops discovered 2 ways to break ubiquity | 09:24 |
| seaLne | 3 | 09:32 |
| nixternal | lets go for 4 | 09:54 |
| ryanakca | Tonio_: ping | 09:56 |
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| seaLne | 4 | 10:02 |
| seaLne | altho that last one is just a bit weird | 10:02 |
| ryanakca | anybody feel like looking at my k-d-s? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3237 It basicly sets it so that kicker is locked by default (which gets rid of those ugly bars you have when unlocked) | 10:07 |
| Tm_T | ryanakca: I keep kicker locked these days | 10:07 |
| ryanakca | Tm_T: So do I, but so that it's locked by default | 10:08 |
| Tm_T | but, maybe some users doesn't understand to open the lock ;( | 10:08 |
| Tm_T | so default, I'm not sure | 10:08 |
| ryanakca | right click - > unlock panels? | 10:08 |
| Tm_T | ryanakca: yes, for some people that's too obvious | 10:08 |
| ryanakca | kk | 10:08 |
| ryanakca | lol | 10:09 |
| Tm_T | I have seen that kind of things a _lot_ | 10:09 |
| Tm_T | I think that default locking would be good but... | 10:09 |
| Tm_T | I'd say give it a try ;) | 10:10 |
| ryanakca | If they've come from XP, it shouldn't be a problem... from mac, I'm unsure... | 10:10 |
| Tm_T | we'll see how people take it | 10:10 |
| ryanakca | yeah | 10:10 |
| imbrandon | yea i'd rather leave that upto Riddell , i dont see a problem with it myself but .... | 10:10 |
| imbrandon | we need a consinsus before uploading that | 10:10 |
| ryanakca | yeah | 10:11 |
| ryanakca | hadn't they done a study on pannels and start menus/kmenus/etc? *googles it* | 10:12 |
| ryanakca | it was on Planet KDE a couple of months ago | 10:12 |
| seaLne | 5 :( | 10:12 |
| seaLne | beta is fun | 10:13 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: hey | 10:14 |
| === Tm_T hides | ||
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: the study is kickoff | 10:15 |
| Tonio_ | works nice but cannot be packaged like a normal application | 10:15 |
| Tonio_ | since it's code is a hudge patch for kdebase | 10:16 |
| ryanakca | Tonio_: kickoff? are you talking about that suse menu? | 10:21 |
| marseillai | yes | 10:21 |
| marseillai | he is | 10:21 |
| marseillai | lu Tonio_ | 10:21 |
| marseillai | hi everybody | 10:21 |
| === ryanakca is talking about some thesis or something of the sort... unless they're one and the same... | ||
| ryanakca | oh, and how's qcomicbook looking? | 10:22 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: yeah, isn't that what you were talking about ? | 10:23 |
| ryanakca | Tonio_: the only reason it wasn't building, from what Riddell told me is that kde.mk required a .pot to be created, and that none could be created. Riddell has the updated one that doesn't require the generation of a .po/.pot | 10:23 |
| ryanakca | no.... I'll look it up for you later... | 10:23 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: talking about qcomicbook ? | 10:24 |
| Tonio_ | ho yeah sorry ;) | 10:24 |
| Tonio_ | yes, that's the reason of the issue, but the error was also due to incorrect packaging somehow | 10:24 |
| ryanakca | yeah, qcomicbook :) | 10:24 |
| Tonio_ | it failed becasue is was build as a kde apps which it isn't ;) | 10:25 |
| ryanakca | eh hunh.. what was the error? and what part was in packaging? | 10:25 |
| Tonio_ | we would have had issues in the future to maintain the package for the exact same reason | 10:25 |
| ryanakca | what defines a KDE app, and what defines it as NOT one.. | 10:25 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: kde app in an application that build deps on kdelibs4-dev | 10:25 |
| === ryanakca considered C++ and Qt = KDE | ||
| Tonio_ | qcomicbook depends on qt, not kde libs | 10:26 |
| ryanakca | ah... | 10:26 |
| Tonio_ | nope, the libs are different | 10:26 |
| ryanakca | ah | 10:26 |
| Tonio_ | kde uses qt, but an adapted version | 10:26 |
| ryanakca | I see see : | 10:26 |
| Tonio_ | qt dialogs for example, are different from kde apps dialog boxes etc...... | 10:26 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: grep the source package on edgy repos, you'll se how I built it, no kde depends, and that builds fine | 10:27 |
| ryanakca | kk | 10:34 |
| Tm_T | OT: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/5388182.stm | 10:36 |
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