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sabdflnight all01:35
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UbugtuNew bug: #62886 in rosetta "percent+space considered format string" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6288601:55
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mpt_Gooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!02:01
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sistpotyhi folks, can anybody help me with a bzr/lp problem?02:32
jameshif you ask your question, they might :)02:33
sistpotyi just tried to commit to revu2, but bzr push sftp://sistpoty@bazaar.launchpad.net/~revu-hackers/revu/revu2-trunk/ says it's not a branch (pull/checkout either)02:34
sistpotyhowever sftp://sistpoty@bazaar.launchpad.net/~revu-hackers/revu/revu2-trunk/trunk works02:34
sistpotyand then there is this error msg at https://launchpad.net/people/revu-hackers/+branch/revu/revu2-trunk02:34
jameshplease don't push branches into subdirs like that.  They won't ever get mirrored02:35
sistpotysorry, for not being more precise, I'm still not really used to bzr :/02:35
jameshsistpoty: it sounds like you probably interrupted an upload the first time02:35
sistpotyjamesh: eeks... sorry, how can I fix this?02:36
jameshsistpoty: here is what you can do: log in with a standard sftp client, and remove the files in the branch dir (/~revu-hackers/revu/revu2-trunk)02:37
jamesh(you were the one to create this branch, right?)02:37
sistpotyjamesh: siretart did, but I'll try if I can delete that stuff02:37
jamesh"lftp" might be easier to use here than "sftp" because it can do recursive deletes02:38
sistpotyjamesh: ok, thanks02:38
jameshNow, we want to create an empty branch in that directory.02:38
jameshThe easiest way to do this would be to create an empty branch locally and upload it02:39
sistpotyjamesh: still deleting... give me sec plz ;)02:39
sistpotyjamesh: ok02:40
jameshso do "bzr init somedir" to create an empty branch in somedir/02:40
jameshthen copy the files from somedir/.bzr to sftp://.../~revu-hackers/revu/revu2-trunk/.bzr02:40
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jameshyou can skip the .bzr/checkout directory though -- it is not needed in the remote branch02:43
jamesh(I think lftp will let you do a recursive put, so it is probably best to use it again)02:43
sistpotyok, seems like it can't do recursive puts :/02:47
jameshsistpoty: sounds like you want "mirror -R $LOCAL $REMOTE"02:48
jameshlooking at the docs02:48
sistpotyoh, I just do it by hand :)02:48
jameshanyway, the outcome of this will be that you'll have a bzr branch at the remote location that you can push to02:49
sistpotyjamesh: ok, thanks very much for your help, I hope I'll get it right now :)02:51
jameshsistpoty: you can check that it worked by running "bzr info sftp://sistpoty@bazaar.launchpad.net/~revu-hackers/revu/revu2-trunk"02:52
jameshthat should tell you that it is a branch, and that it has zero revisions02:52
jameshthen try pushing to the location02:52
sistpotyjamesh: ok, will try that02:52
sistpotyyay, yafc can do sftp :)02:53
jameshsistpoty: okay.  Now that the directory contains a valid bzr branch, it will get published correctly.02:56
sistpotyjamesh: ok... then I can just push to that location?02:56
jameshyep02:56
FujitsuLP should mirror branches to HTTP every 30 minutes, right?02:58
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jameshFujitsu: yeah.02:59
sistpotyhm... I'm still doing s.th. wrong: bzr: ERROR: No such file: u'/~revu-hackers/revu/revu2-trunk/.bzr/repository/knits/72/'02:59
jameshIt should be able to create those directories03:00
jameshdoes /~revu-hackers/revu/revu2-trunk/.bzr/repository/knits exist?03:00
sistpotyjamesh: no... 03:01
jameshsistpoty: maybe you didn't copy all the files from the local branch03:02
sistpotygrml... yafc skipped empty directories :(03:02
ajmitchsistpoty: hm, it was either siretart or possibly myself who broke the initial push03:02
ajmitchI know I had problems with it at one point due to the conversion from svn03:02
sistpotyajmitch: ah, k03:03
jameshlifeless: would it be possible to get the bzr-0.11-support branches committed to rocketfuel today?03:04
jameshlifeless: it'll need a simultaneous update to bzr, cscvs and launchpad03:04
sistpotyyeeehaa! seems to have worked :)03:07
sistpotyjamesh: thanks again very much for handholding :)03:07
jameshsistpoty: okay.  It should be published via http in ~ 25-30 minutes03:09
jameshsistpoty: looks like it is all up and published now: https://launchpad.net/people/revu-hackers/+branch/revu/revu2-trunk03:38
sistpotyjamesh: just saw it :)03:38
ajmitchthanks for that :)03:38
sistpotyyay, big thanks again03:38
FujitsuIs there any sane, machine-parsable way to get information (name, group memberships, email addresses) about a user?04:12
FujitsuI know there's +rdf to get GPG keys, but is there anything else?04:13
mptNot as far as I know, Fujitsu 04:13
mptI suggest either reporting a bug, or mailing launchpad-users@, describing what you want to use the data for04:14
mptand what sort of format would suit you04:14
FujitsuAlso, is there a way to translate an email address to a username other than using the search form at /people?04:14
sistpotygn8 everyone04:27
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lifelessjamesh: probably. I'll see what I can do04:53
jameshso Lenovo will send me a non-exploding battery in 5 weeks04:54
lifelesslol04:56
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jameshI'm pretty sure it isn't a coincidence that we get a long weekend for the grand finals05:52
realistNot everyone has a long weekend...06:04
jameshnsw and wa do, at least06:05
jameshlabour day and queen's birthday respectively06:05
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jmltas has to wait til October :\06:38
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SteveAmorning07:53
stubMorning08:18
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SteveAjamesh: what a coincidence that the Queen was born on Labour day09:36
SteveAconsidering that birth involves the process known as "labour"09:36
FujitsuEr, the queen was born on April 21...09:39
SteveAif the queen's birthday can be celebrated on a day that isn't her birthday, then her labour can be celebrated on a different day too ;-)09:42
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carlosmorning09:54
SteveAhi carlos09:54
shawarmaI'm mighty confused.. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/62862   <- It says it's a bug in network-manager, Keybuk writes something about upstart, but the activity log says the reporter reported it on gparted..09:59
UbugtuMalone bug 62862 in network-manager "Atheros w-lan card doesn`t work on edgy live!" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  09:59
Ngshawarma: that's a dupe of another bug...10:00
shawarmaHow does that explain anything?10:00
Ngbug 6093810:00
UbugtuMalone bug 60938 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 "ath_hal missing from modules.dep" [High,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6093810:00
Ngit's a bug in the livecd, it doesn't have a complete depmod output10:01
shawarmaI don't really care much about the actual bug. I'm just totally puzzled by the info available on LP about it.10:01
Ngconfusion, one would assume :)10:01
Keybukshawarma: someone assigned it to upstart10:02
shawarmaNg: The activity log says it was reported on gparted, Keybuk adds a comment about startup, but the bug now seems to be attached to network-manager. 10:02
shawarmaKeybuk: Doesn't that usually show up in the activity log?10:02
Keybukshawarma: yeah, the event is the 21;22 one10:02
Keybukhe changed it *from* gparted to upstart, but for some reason the Old value and New value columns are blank10:02
Keybukerr, sorry10:03
KeybukI mean he changed it from upstart to gparted10:03
Keybukno, maybe I don't10:03
shawarmaLOL!10:03
Keybuk** Affects: upstart (Ubuntu)10:03
Keybuk     Importance: Undecided10:03
Keybuk         Status: Unconfirmed10:03
Keybuk** Changed in: gparted (Ubuntu)10:03
KeybukSourcepackagename: gparted => upstart10:03
Keybukthat's the LP e-mail I got10:03
Ngshawarma: hmm, well I have no idea about that, but thanks anyway for mentioning it since it's a bug I care about :)10:03
shawarmaKeybuk: Perhaps there's a delay in the activity log to allow for comments to be added or something?10:04
Keybukshawarma: LP bug, more likely <g>10:04
shawarmaKeybuk: Probably. I'll file a bug.10:05
BjornTshawarma, Keybuk: yeah, that's a known bug. (bug 41063)10:06
UbugtuMalone bug 41063 in malone "Mail notification of bug creation includes things that haven't happened yet" [Medium,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4106310:06
BjornTi think there's also a bug open on package re-assignments not showing up in the activity log10:07
realistTime travel?10:07
shawarmaBjornT: There's several of them, it appears.10:09
shawarmaBjornT: Oh, my mistake.10:12
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jameshsabdfl: sounds like your laptop might have a potentially exploding battery10:17
sabdflapparently. i like to live on the edgy, y'see10:17
jameshthey're sending me a replacement in 5 weeks10:18
sabdflwas it easy to organise?10:18
jameshjust rang the number on the website, went through a voice menu (just two prompts) and gave them the machine and battery details 10:19
realistdell, or apple?10:28
daniloslenovo10:28
danilos;)10:28
jameshyeah.  It's a Thinkpad X60s10:29
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realistLooking at getting a Toshiba Libretto U100 myself.10:38
carlosI wonder how's possible that Sony fuck all batteries from other companies and their own laptops don't have the same problem....10:41
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carlosis s/fuck/include bombs in/ better? ;-)10:43
realistMuch better :-)10:44
realistSpeaking of laptops, the new intel macbooks are cute10:44
SteveAI'm upset with apple and their choice of DVD drives.  The matsushitas they come with have region coding built into the hardware.10:47
SteveAI think I'll be buying an external DVD for my mac mini10:47
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carlosSteveA: I though all drivers include it10:48
carlosletting you to change it 4-5 times10:48
SteveAyes10:49
SteveAI a few DVDs from three different regions10:49
SteveAoh, and they don't play DVDs encoded for two regions at once at all :-/10:50
SteveAwhich is common in e. europe10:50
jameshSteveA: you can't get a hacked firmware?10:50
SteveAno10:50
SteveAdoesn't exist10:50
SteveAand is unlikely to10:50
SteveAbecause matsushita have put the region coding stuff on a different chip, apparently10:51
jameshthere are some hacked firmwares that move the location of the region change counter from flash to ram10:51
jameshso each time you put the machine to sleep or turn it off, the counter resets10:51
SteveAso it isn't updatable unless you arm yourself with a fine nose soldering iron10:51
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realistSteveA: I may have to test the macbook on our desk at work.11:05
realists/our/my/11:05
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carloswill be back in 30 minutes11:20
SteveAspiv: ping11:38
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tfheenis it a known (and filed) bug that sorting on https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-6.10 seems to be.. odd?  Clicking "status" seems to sort by importance, assignee sorts by bug name, importance by bug nr, while report sorts by bug nr?01:49
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BjornTtfheen: yeah, i saw a bug filed about that not long ago.01:57
BjornTtfheen: bug 6249501:58
tfheenBjornT: any idea about the bug # and ETA?  It's quite painful when I need to look at the list of unfixed bugs for a milestone01:58
UbugtuMalone bug 62495 in malone "Milestone bug list doesn't sort properly" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6249501:58
tfheenoh, thanks01:58
BjornTtfheen: i'll take a look at it today to see how hard it is to fix.01:59
tfheenexcellent, thanks.02:00
tfheenI'll add a comment to the bug too02:00
jameshtfheen: just click on the column header two to the right of the column you want to sort on02:11
tfheenjamesh: not enough columns.02:11
tfheenI want to sort by status02:11
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jameshtfheen: okay.  In the meen time, try using https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs?advanced=1 and select the milestone you want to limit the search to02:15
jameshe.g. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=status&field.status%3Alist=Unconfirmed&field.status%3Alist=Needs+Info&field.status%3Alist=Rejected&field.status%3Alist=Confirmed&field.status%3Alist=In+Progress&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Committed&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Released&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.owner=&field.milestone%3Alist=146&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.status_upstream=&field.sta02:15
jameshtus_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.tag=&field.has_no_package.used=&search=Search02:15
tfheenjamesh: yeah, I guess that's a workaround.02:16
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UbugtuNew bug: #62965 in launchpad-bazaar "https://launchpad.net/bazaar/+all-branches should be batched" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6296502:36
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salgadospiv, around?03:12
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carlosdanilos: around?03:19
daniloscarlos: yes03:19
carloscould we have a fast meeting about 1.0 goals?03:19
shawarmawin 103:19
shawarmadoh...03:19
daniloscarlos: sure03:20
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flacostesalgado: ping03:25
salgadoflacoste, pong03:25
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flacostesalgado: just another conflict warning for your localized-support-request implementation: i refactored the notification mechanism for tickets03:26
flacostesalgado: hopefully, it will make it easier to implement what you need03:26
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salgadoflacoste, cool.   unfortunately, it's looking like that spec will need to be discussed a bit before I can move on. and I guess independently of the outcome of the discussion, I'll have quite some work to do on things not directly related to the support tracker03:28
salgadothe good thing is that we're less likely to conflict03:28
flacostesalgado: ok, fine03:29
peciskanyone here could say me where I should talk/disscuss about translation template files in Launchpad?03:30
flacostesalgado: do should we apply for an exception for that spec? i did yesterday for support-tracker-views, i think i might miss the oct 12th deadline by a bit03:30
UbugtuNew bug: #62976 in soyuz "duplicate package/version allowed in unapproved queue" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6297603:30
salgadoflacoste, yeah, I'm considering that. I'll just wait until monday to see how the discussion goes03:31
salgadoI mean, I think an exception will be necessary; I just want to be sure03:31
BjornTpecisk: you should talk to jordi, carlos or danilos03:33
peciskcarlos: I wanted to know how pot files get created? Simply in Edgy when I merge nautilus.pot file from it with GNOME 2.16 release nautilus.po, I get lot of string wrong in GUI in the end 03:33
peciskBjornT: thanks for info03:34
carlospecisk: the .pot files are generated when a .deb package is built03:34
carlosusually, using intltool-update -P03:34
carloscould you show me an example of the problem you get?03:35
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peciskYeah03:35
peciskcarlos: it is rather simply. Nautilus provides "Computer" for GNOME panel menu and desktop, but in my language instead of that I get translation of "Countertop"03:36
peciskit happens when I merge pot file with GNOME 2.16 release po from my language03:36
peciskwhen I compile "clean" po file from GNOME and put it into /usr/share/locale-langpack/lv/LC_MESSAGES, everything is ok03:37
peciskI am tempted to upload GNOME po file instead of merging with pot file from Launchpad, but I am not sure it won't cause any other problems03:37
danilospecisk: someone must have submitted wrong translation using Rosetta, can you give a pointer to language and string in question?03:38
carlospecisk: but, did you check that the .po file from Ubuntu has the right translation?03:38
peciskcarlos, I did, it has03:39
carlosthen, I don't see the error...03:39
carloshow do you merge the .po file with the .pot file?03:39
peciskcarlos: and it doesn't even matter, because I merged GNOME po from official sources with pot file from Ubuntu. Before that, in official po file everything was in right place. After merge, final po has several places where Computer was replaced with Countrertop03:40
carlosI'm a bit lose03:41
carloscould you show me the commands you used?03:41
peciskmsgmerge nautilus.gnome-2.16.lv.po nautilus.pot -o nautilus-final.po03:42
danilospecisk: do they also have the "#, fuzzy" comments next to them?03:42
peciskdanilos: no, that was why they appeared in GUI03:43
carlospecisk: if the lv.po file has the right translation for the "Computer" string03:44
peciskit has03:44
carlospecisk: and the .pot file has a msgid with "Computer"03:44
carlosthe output of the merge should have the right translation too03:44
carlosotherwise, msgmerge is not working as it should03:44
carlospecisk: could you confirm this?03:48
pecisklv.po has "Computer" right, and pot has "Computer" too, but in the end there is different term03:49
peciskhowever, in comments, there is slight differences to references to C files03:49
danilospecisk: hum, I just retried this and everything worked fine for me03:50
carlospecisk: the new .po file should have the references in the .pot file03:50
danilospecisk: I took http://l10n-status.gnome.org/gnome-2.16/PO/nautilus.HEAD.lv.po as the lv.po file03:50
carlosso that's normal03:50
peciskhmmmmm03:50
carlosabout the translation being different... that smells like a but in msgmerge03:51
carlosbut that's weird....03:51
danilospecisk: "Computer" in merged file is translated as "Dators"03:51
danilospecisk: so, what version of msgmerge do you have?03:51
peciskdanilos: maybe then I merge wrong?03:51
danilospecisk: no, I used exactly the same command03:51
peciskpecisk@pecisk-desktop:~$ msgmerge -V03:51
peciskmsgmerge (GNU gettext-tools) 0.14.603:51
danilos(apart from filenames)03:51
danilosthat shouldn't be a problem, though I have 0.14.503:52
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carlospecisk: anyway, if you want, you can upload the .po file into Rosetta and Rosetta will handle the merge03:53
peciskdanilos: I will check again all my steps03:53
peciskcarlos: ooh, that's what I wanted to hear03:53
danilospecisk: yeah, but I've never seen something like that happen03:54
carlospecisk: we do the merge with the template with every import03:54
carlosautomatically03:55
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carlospecisk: anyway, you should report that problem with msgmerge03:55
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peciskeverything is fine, very sorry for bothering you guys03:55
carlosare you using a package version of it or your own version?03:55
peciskfound what was cause03:55
peciskcorrupt po file03:56
carlosI see03:56
peciskdamn, never trust third parties :)03:56
daniloswell, parties are for fun :)03:56
peciskand doin crazy things03:57
peciskI know03:57
peciskthanks anyway for help03:57
peciskhave a nice weekend :)03:57
carlospecisk: same for you!03:58
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rraphinkhi05:12
rraphinkis there an easy way to request an import from Debian?05:12
kikorraphink, I think the process is file a bug05:13
kikorraphink, ask on #ubuntu-devel05:13
rraphinkok05:13
rraphinkI thought taht was the way05:13
rraphinkbut then file a bug on which package? :s05:13
kikoI'm not sure -- ask there05:14
salgadorraphink, I think you file the bug on the package you want to sync and assign a special team to the bug05:14
salgadorraphink, yeah, assign the https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-archive team to the bug05:15
rraphinksalgado: the package doesn't exist in Ubuntu yet05:15
rraphinkoh yes that's what I did last time05:15
rraphinkjust filed a bug in ubuntu without assigning a package05:15
rraphinkand added ubuntu-archive05:15
kikoright05:15
rraphinkthanks05:15
rraphink:)05:15
salgadonp. :)05:16
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sfllawDoes anyone here manage cricket?05:28
salgadosfllaw, stub05:29
sfllawsalgado: Thanks.05:30
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UbugtuNew bug: #63000 in malone "Need a way to protect milestone and importance differently from the rest of IBugTask" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6300005:45
ddaaI'm thinking that launchpad bug numbers are bound to become unwieldly05:51
ddaaif adoption takes off, they can get into the 7 digits realm05:52
ddaa5 digits is already annoying enough (hard to remember, high potential for typos)05:52
carlosddaa: copy & paste is the key! :-D05:53
ddaait's a workaround05:53
ddaaif we wanted people to copy-paste, we'd be using a uuid or something like that05:54
mdkematthewrevell: around?05:55
matthewrevellmdke: hello, yes05:55
carlosmdke: hi06:02
mdkecarlos: hiya. all well?06:02
carlosmdke: yeah, we imported all documentation from *ubuntu-docs06:02
mdkefrom the packages in the archive right?06:03
carlosmdke: Could you include .po files for those packages inside the source packages?06:03
carlosmdke: right06:03
carlosthat way our users will know the amount of strings that you already include in the repository06:04
carlosmdke: In fact, I don't understand how's that you don't do the .po -> .xml conversion on build time (I think you don't do that, I didn't look at the source)06:04
mdkeheh, danilo can tell you that06:05
mdkethe xml needs a lot of manual correction after conversion06:05
mdkeincluding the po's is no problem, sure06:05
mdkeI'll write it down so I don't forget - I just got back from vacation and will be fairly busy catching up06:06
danilosmdke: well, we can extend ubuntu mode to do any correction we want06:06
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danilosmdke: though, for that part, talk with danilo, the free software guy (he is usually around on weekends ;))06:07
mdkehaha. Ok06:07
mdkethe error corrections are generally quite random typos though, or people translating tags06:08
carlos;-)06:08
carlosok06:08
danilosah, that... right :)06:08
daniloswe can add xml-format checking to rosetta even if msgfmt doesn't have that, anyway06:08
carlosmdke: well, I think including the .po files would be enough, the build part is just a suggestion to reduce the amount of work needed06:09
danilosthough, bruno haible was interested in adding that to msgfmt, it just needs someone working on it ;)06:09
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danilosbruno haible == gettext maintainer :)06:09
carlosI would prefer msgfmt fix06:09
carlosdanilos: if you think you can do that, ask steve/kiko to see if we can do it as part of our tasks06:10
mdkeok, I'm off, my mailing list backlog is so scary I need to turn off the computer06:10
daniloscarlos: sure, so fixing this on rosetta level might involve writing some gettext C code, and I am completely fine with that myself :)06:10
danilosmdke: welcome back :)06:10
mdkethanks, catch you soon06:10
UbugtuNew bug: #63009 in launchpad "Update oops-tools to not show google cached site as referred from local sites." [Low,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6300906:10
daniloscarlos: right, but this is really not a priority right now06:10
carloshmm, well, it wouldn't be msgfmt, but a xml-format or something like that06:11
carlosotherwise Rosetta will not be able to use it06:11
carlosright06:11
carlosnot a high priority06:11
salgadomalcc, just mailed you a review of deathrow-fix06:12
malccsalgado: Thanks06:12
salgadocarlos, I should have CCed you on my las email (subject: LocalizedSupportRequests) to launchpad but I forgot. it'd be nice if you could have a look and see if the plan I'm proposing there looks sane06:13
malccsalgado: I'll do all that. The reason for the 35 vs. 0 is, when I filed the bug I assumed no underlying API was doing anything with a size when a symlink was deleted; when I did the implementation I found that it was just a broken chain of return values, and once it was complete the symlinks returned accurate sizes. Of course their real size isn't zero, I was just planning to approximate :)06:14
carlossalgado: I saw it06:14
carlossalgado: and at first sight, I think it's ok06:14
salgadomalcc, ah, I see. you have r=salgado with these changes then. :)06:15
malccsalgado: Thanks :)06:15
salgadocarlos, cool. thank you!06:16
jordidanilos: wow man06:27
jordidanilos: it's been difficult to meet you with the non-stop meetings I've been having and your connection woes06:27
jordidanilos: will you be around on Sunday? :P06:27
danilosjordi: actually, I will :)06:28
jordidanilos: that's good06:28
danilosjordi: and Sunday is as good for this as any other day :)06:29
jordiI nheed to go to Sitges to finish the flat emptying, but could be around on Sun06:29
jordisoon that house will be no more :(06:29
danilosoh, you still haven't sold it? or just haven't turned the keys over yet?06:30
jordino, we're still giving away furniture and stuff06:30
danilosyeah, it's a really nice and huge place :(06:30
danilosand the beach in Sitges is crazy! ;)06:30
jordiit's mostly empty now. what remains is stuff nobody wants.06:30
jordi*totally*06:30
jordiwait, you mean the one near the church?06:31
jordinot the GAY NUDE BEACH?06:31
jordi:P06:31
jordiwow, I think I never posted the post-guadec blog entry.06:31
jordiThat had pics of the ay zone06:32
jorditotally great for the planets06:32
danilosheh06:32
jordiof course I also have a pic or two of the other beach06:32
danilosyeah, I didn't either... and I should upload my photos, I have a bunch of photos of you modelling, for example ;)06:33
danilos"almost" nude ;)06:33
danilos(i.e. just made for planets)06:34
jordilol06:35
jordiok06:35
jordiI should get prepared to leave06:35
danilosok, enjoy some of the last moments in sitges, where you felt at home :P06:37
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jordiI'm going to mail you a  pic of me in the GAY, NUDE BEACH06:39
jordiapologies to #launchpad about this conversation :)06:39
daniloshah, I'll be waiting ;)06:40
danilosjordi: though, no need to apologize, launchpadders are not discriminative :P06:41
danilosanyway, stopping now :)06:43
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SteveAkiko: pingo07:03
salgadoSteveA, he just left to have lunch07:12
SteveAthanks salgado.  I got a quick word in with kiko :-)07:13
rraphink4995907:14
salgadoah, right. sometimes I forget to check the timestamps of messages. :/07:14
matthewrevellSteveA: ping07:36
SteveAhi matthewrevell 07:38
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carloslater08:11
carloskiko: around?08:11
kikocarlos, yes?08:12
UbugtuNew bug: #63022 in soyuz "New icons needed for soyuz +queue page." [Low,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6302208:16
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kikohey BjornT?09:30
BjornThi kiko 09:30
kikoBjornT, interested in looking at a patch for externalbugtracker.Bugzilla that makes it work for /any/ version of bugzilla?09:31
BjornTkiko: sure09:31
kikobad news: no tests. good news: works. :)09:31
kikohttps://sodium.ubuntu.com/~andrew/paste/fileO6CtL5.html09:31
kikoit supports issuezilla as well09:31
BjornTkiko: does issuezilla really expect bug ids to be separated with ':', and not ',' like bugzilla? (when requesting the xml list)09:36
kikoBjornT, yes. 09:36
matsubarabzr is funny.09:39
matsubara$ bzr push --overwrite09:39
matsubara-2 revision(s) pushed.09:39
kikomatsubara, yeah, I think it's known. did you bzr uncommit perchance?09:40
matsubarakiko: no, the branch I was pushing into was 2 rev ahead. that's why I overwrote it.09:40
kikoah09:40
BjornTkiko: well, the code looks mostly good, but you should catch the exceptions you added somewhere. they shouldn't fall through to the unexpected-exception handler.09:45
kikoBjornT, oh. 09:45
BjornTkiko: and i think some basic tests are required for merge approval as well :)09:46
kikoBjornT, yeah. one question is: how to test the form?09:47
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BjornTkiko: i guess you'd have to either extend or add a new TestBugzilla, to accept different form variables/page names depending on which version it is. it's not that nice, but it's hard to test it properly.09:51
kikookay09:52
kikoBjornT, it's so easy to manually test this if you can assume internet, btw.09:52
BjornTyeah, i know. i don't think we want add such tests to the pqm test suite, though :) although, it wouldn't hurt having some test scripts that you could run manually from time to time.09:54
kikoyeah.09:58
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ddaaevil spiv requested a svn import of twisteh10:30
ddaatwisted10:30
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carlosenjoy your weekend!!!10:34
kikosalgado, matsubara: I may have time for your reviews today10:34
salgadokiko, that'd be great!10:35
kikomatsubara, salgado: URLs?10:37
matsubarakiko: https://sodium.ubuntu.com/~andrew/paste/filePMAijq.html mainly a pagetest conversion and a way to reproduce bug 1558 (which is now gone with your SQLObject patch)10:40
UbugtuMalone bug 1558 in rosetta "Export request form should check for uniqueness of entry" [Critical,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/155810:40
salgadokiko, https://sodium.ubuntu.com/~andrew/paste/filed51aL6.html ; it will also show up on pending-reviews quickly10:41
kikosalgado, 'lib/canonical/testing/layers.py' ?10:44
salgadokiko, yeah, unused import10:44
kikodrop it! :)10:44
salgadothere was a bug there, an undefined name, which I fixed but somebody fixed that and merged before I did10:44
salgadoluckily, bzr is smart enough to not conflict10:45
kikoI see.10:45
kiko+          <a tal:attributes="href mirror/http_base_url"10:45
kikowon't that crash if the mirror doesn't have one?10:45
salgadodepends10:46
salgadoactually, it won't crash, for sure10:47
kikosalgado, can you summarize in points what this patch does?10:53
salgadokiko, Fix [WWW]  bug 60235, enable probing of ftp-only mirrors and remove lots of unused code.10:53
UbugtuMalone bug 60235 in launchpad "Disabling mirrors when they fail a single probe is not fair" [High,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6023510:53
kikosalgado, distributionmirror-prober crack gone? I thought you were saying that was useful?10:55
salgadoeh?10:55
salgadowhat crack?10:55
kiko> === removed file 'lib/canonical/launchpad/pagetests/standalone/xx-distributionmirror-proberlogs.txt'10:55
kikosalgado, did you send me an inverted patch?10:55
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salgadoI guess so10:56
salgadokiko, https://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/filesdA1RE.html10:58
salgadosorry for that10:58
kikosalgado, mmmmmm10:58
kikoTHAT'S why nothing was making sense10:59
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salgadothen you should have guessed... or do you think I'd write code that doesn't make any sense?11:00
UbugtuNew bug: #63052 in launchpad "fmt:shorten should ellide at word boundaries" [Low,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6305211:00
kikosalgado, I hate to say I know there have been cases11:00
ddaacode always make sense11:08
ddaait's all a matter of perspective11:08
kikoit's all a matter of CRACK11:08
ddaacrack is a matter of perspective, and sometimes perspective might be a matter of crack indeed...11:09
kikosalgado, wtf is david talking about?11:09
salgadocrack?11:09
ddaaDon't worry, I've been doing import herding and debugging for 2.5 hours11:10
ddaasvn crack11:10
ddaacvs crack11:10
ddaauser input crack11:10
kikostop scaring us11:10
ddaajust found a particularly clever CVS repo that breaks cscvs in a way that is entirely new to me11:11
kikoddaa, if only fixing cscvs was as easy as fixing externalsystem.Bugzilla11:11
kikoI fixed /all/ failing cases we have at the moment in about 20 minutes11:11
ddaadon't worry, yesterday I came up with a design that should fix most of our svn failures when I implement it11:12
ddaaand SteveA supports my focusing in it next week11:12
ddaait was all a matter of getting the right perspective :)11:13
salgadohmmm. gotta run. friday night classes. :-(11:15
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