[01:35] <sabdfl> night all
[01:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62886 in rosetta "percent+space considered format string" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62886
[02:01] <mpt_> Gooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!
[02:32] <sistpoty> hi folks, can anybody help me with a bzr/lp problem?
[02:33] <jamesh> if you ask your question, they might :)
[02:34] <sistpoty> i just tried to commit to revu2, but bzr push sftp://sistpoty@bazaar.launchpad.net/~revu-hackers/revu/revu2-trunk/ says it's not a branch (pull/checkout either)
[02:34] <sistpoty> however sftp://sistpoty@bazaar.launchpad.net/~revu-hackers/revu/revu2-trunk/trunk works
[02:34] <sistpoty> and then there is this error msg at https://launchpad.net/people/revu-hackers/+branch/revu/revu2-trunk
[02:35] <jamesh> please don't push branches into subdirs like that.  They won't ever get mirrored
[02:35] <sistpoty> sorry, for not being more precise, I'm still not really used to bzr :/
[02:35] <jamesh> sistpoty: it sounds like you probably interrupted an upload the first time
[02:36] <sistpoty> jamesh: eeks... sorry, how can I fix this?
[02:37] <jamesh> sistpoty: here is what you can do: log in with a standard sftp client, and remove the files in the branch dir (/~revu-hackers/revu/revu2-trunk)
[02:37] <jamesh> (you were the one to create this branch, right?)
[02:37] <sistpoty> jamesh: siretart did, but I'll try if I can delete that stuff
[02:38] <jamesh> "lftp" might be easier to use here than "sftp" because it can do recursive deletes
[02:38] <sistpoty> jamesh: ok, thanks
[02:38] <jamesh> Now, we want to create an empty branch in that directory.
[02:39] <jamesh> The easiest way to do this would be to create an empty branch locally and upload it
[02:39] <sistpoty> jamesh: still deleting... give me sec plz ;)
[02:40] <sistpoty> jamesh: ok
[02:40] <jamesh> so do "bzr init somedir" to create an empty branch in somedir/
[02:40] <jamesh> then copy the files from somedir/.bzr to sftp://.../~revu-hackers/revu/revu2-trunk/.bzr
[02:43] <jamesh> you can skip the .bzr/checkout directory though -- it is not needed in the remote branch
[02:43] <jamesh> (I think lftp will let you do a recursive put, so it is probably best to use it again)
[02:47] <sistpoty> ok, seems like it can't do recursive puts :/
[02:48] <jamesh> sistpoty: sounds like you want "mirror -R $LOCAL $REMOTE"
[02:48] <jamesh> looking at the docs
[02:48] <sistpoty> oh, I just do it by hand :)
[02:49] <jamesh> anyway, the outcome of this will be that you'll have a bzr branch at the remote location that you can push to
[02:51] <sistpoty> jamesh: ok, thanks very much for your help, I hope I'll get it right now :)
[02:52] <jamesh> sistpoty: you can check that it worked by running "bzr info sftp://sistpoty@bazaar.launchpad.net/~revu-hackers/revu/revu2-trunk"
[02:52] <jamesh> that should tell you that it is a branch, and that it has zero revisions
[02:52] <jamesh> then try pushing to the location
[02:52] <sistpoty> jamesh: ok, will try that
[02:53] <sistpoty> yay, yafc can do sftp :)
[02:56] <jamesh> sistpoty: okay.  Now that the directory contains a valid bzr branch, it will get published correctly.
[02:56] <sistpoty> jamesh: ok... then I can just push to that location?
[02:56] <jamesh> yep
[02:58] <Fujitsu> LP should mirror branches to HTTP every 30 minutes, right?
[02:59] <jamesh> Fujitsu: yeah.
[02:59] <sistpoty> hm... I'm still doing s.th. wrong: bzr: ERROR: No such file: u'/~revu-hackers/revu/revu2-trunk/.bzr/repository/knits/72/'
[03:00] <jamesh> It should be able to create those directories
[03:00] <jamesh> does /~revu-hackers/revu/revu2-trunk/.bzr/repository/knits exist?
[03:01] <sistpoty> jamesh: no... 
[03:02] <jamesh> sistpoty: maybe you didn't copy all the files from the local branch
[03:02] <sistpoty> grml... yafc skipped empty directories :(
[03:02] <ajmitch> sistpoty: hm, it was either siretart or possibly myself who broke the initial push
[03:02] <ajmitch> I know I had problems with it at one point due to the conversion from svn
[03:03] <sistpoty> ajmitch: ah, k
[03:04] <jamesh> lifeless: would it be possible to get the bzr-0.11-support branches committed to rocketfuel today?
[03:04] <jamesh> lifeless: it'll need a simultaneous update to bzr, cscvs and launchpad
[03:07] <sistpoty> yeeehaa! seems to have worked :)
[03:07] <sistpoty> jamesh: thanks again very much for handholding :)
[03:09] <jamesh> sistpoty: okay.  It should be published via http in ~ 25-30 minutes
[03:38] <jamesh> sistpoty: looks like it is all up and published now: https://launchpad.net/people/revu-hackers/+branch/revu/revu2-trunk
[03:38] <sistpoty> jamesh: just saw it :)
[03:38] <ajmitch> thanks for that :)
[03:38] <sistpoty> yay, big thanks again
[04:12] <Fujitsu> Is there any sane, machine-parsable way to get information (name, group memberships, email addresses) about a user?
[04:13] <Fujitsu> I know there's +rdf to get GPG keys, but is there anything else?
[04:13] <mpt> Not as far as I know, Fujitsu 
[04:14] <mpt> I suggest either reporting a bug, or mailing launchpad-users@, describing what you want to use the data for
[04:14] <mpt> and what sort of format would suit you
[04:14] <Fujitsu> Also, is there a way to translate an email address to a username other than using the search form at /people?
[04:27] <sistpoty> gn8 everyone
[04:53] <lifeless> jamesh: probably. I'll see what I can do
[04:54] <jamesh> so Lenovo will send me a non-exploding battery in 5 weeks
[04:56] <lifeless> lol
[05:52] <jamesh> I'm pretty sure it isn't a coincidence that we get a long weekend for the grand finals
[06:04] <realist> Not everyone has a long weekend...
[06:05] <jamesh> nsw and wa do, at least
[06:05] <jamesh> labour day and queen's birthday respectively
[06:38] <jml> tas has to wait til October :\
[07:53] <SteveA> morning
[08:18] <stub> Morning
[09:36] <SteveA> jamesh: what a coincidence that the Queen was born on Labour day
[09:36] <SteveA> considering that birth involves the process known as "labour"
[09:39] <Fujitsu> Er, the queen was born on April 21...
[09:42] <SteveA> if the queen's birthday can be celebrated on a day that isn't her birthday, then her labour can be celebrated on a different day too ;-)
[09:54] <carlos> morning
[09:54] <SteveA> hi carlos
[09:59] <shawarma> I'm mighty confused.. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/62862   <- It says it's a bug in network-manager, Keybuk writes something about upstart, but the activity log says the reporter reported it on gparted..
[09:59] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 62862 in network-manager "Atheros w-lan card doesn`t work on edgy live!" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  
[10:00] <Ng> shawarma: that's a dupe of another bug...
[10:00] <shawarma> How does that explain anything?
[10:00] <Ng> bug 60938
[10:00] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 60938 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 "ath_hal missing from modules.dep" [High,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60938
[10:01] <Ng> it's a bug in the livecd, it doesn't have a complete depmod output
[10:01] <shawarma> I don't really care much about the actual bug. I'm just totally puzzled by the info available on LP about it.
[10:01] <Ng> confusion, one would assume :)
[10:02] <Keybuk> shawarma: someone assigned it to upstart
[10:02] <shawarma> Ng: The activity log says it was reported on gparted, Keybuk adds a comment about startup, but the bug now seems to be attached to network-manager. 
[10:02] <shawarma> Keybuk: Doesn't that usually show up in the activity log?
[10:02] <Keybuk> shawarma: yeah, the event is the 21;22 one
[10:02] <Keybuk> he changed it *from* gparted to upstart, but for some reason the Old value and New value columns are blank
[10:03] <Keybuk> err, sorry
[10:03] <Keybuk> I mean he changed it from upstart to gparted
[10:03] <Keybuk> no, maybe I don't
[10:03] <shawarma> LOL!
[10:03] <Keybuk> ** Affects: upstart (Ubuntu)
[10:03] <Keybuk>      Importance: Undecided
[10:03] <Keybuk>          Status: Unconfirmed
[10:03] <Keybuk> ** Changed in: gparted (Ubuntu)
[10:03] <Keybuk> Sourcepackagename: gparted => upstart
[10:03] <Keybuk> that's the LP e-mail I got
[10:03] <Ng> shawarma: hmm, well I have no idea about that, but thanks anyway for mentioning it since it's a bug I care about :)
[10:04] <shawarma> Keybuk: Perhaps there's a delay in the activity log to allow for comments to be added or something?
[10:04] <Keybuk> shawarma: LP bug, more likely <g>
[10:05] <shawarma> Keybuk: Probably. I'll file a bug.
[10:06] <BjornT> shawarma, Keybuk: yeah, that's a known bug. (bug 41063)
[10:06] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 41063 in malone "Mail notification of bug creation includes things that haven't happened yet" [Medium,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/41063
[10:07] <BjornT> i think there's also a bug open on package re-assignments not showing up in the activity log
[10:07] <realist> Time travel?
[10:09] <shawarma> BjornT: There's several of them, it appears.
[10:12] <shawarma> BjornT: Oh, my mistake.
[10:17] <jamesh> sabdfl: sounds like your laptop might have a potentially exploding battery
[10:17] <sabdfl> apparently. i like to live on the edgy, y'see
[10:18] <jamesh> they're sending me a replacement in 5 weeks
[10:18] <sabdfl> was it easy to organise?
[10:19] <jamesh> just rang the number on the website, went through a voice menu (just two prompts) and gave them the machine and battery details 
[10:28] <realist> dell, or apple?
[10:28] <danilos> lenovo
[10:28] <danilos> ;)
[10:29] <jamesh> yeah.  It's a Thinkpad X60s
[10:38] <realist> Looking at getting a Toshiba Libretto U100 myself.
[10:41] <carlos> I wonder how's possible that Sony fuck all batteries from other companies and their own laptops don't have the same problem....
[10:43] <carlos> is s/fuck/include bombs in/ better? ;-)
[10:44] <realist> Much better :-)
[10:44] <realist> Speaking of laptops, the new intel macbooks are cute
[10:47] <SteveA> I'm upset with apple and their choice of DVD drives.  The matsushitas they come with have region coding built into the hardware.
[10:47] <SteveA> I think I'll be buying an external DVD for my mac mini
[10:48] <carlos> SteveA: I though all drivers include it
[10:48] <carlos> letting you to change it 4-5 times
[10:49] <SteveA> yes
[10:49] <SteveA> I a few DVDs from three different regions
[10:50] <SteveA> oh, and they don't play DVDs encoded for two regions at once at all :-/
[10:50] <SteveA> which is common in e. europe
[10:50] <jamesh> SteveA: you can't get a hacked firmware?
[10:50] <SteveA> no
[10:50] <SteveA> doesn't exist
[10:50] <SteveA> and is unlikely to
[10:51] <SteveA> because matsushita have put the region coding stuff on a different chip, apparently
[10:51] <jamesh> there are some hacked firmwares that move the location of the region change counter from flash to ram
[10:51] <jamesh> so each time you put the machine to sleep or turn it off, the counter resets
[10:51] <SteveA> so it isn't updatable unless you arm yourself with a fine nose soldering iron
[11:05] <realist> SteveA: I may have to test the macbook on our desk at work.
[11:05] <realist> s/our/my/
[11:20] <carlos> will be back in 30 minutes
[11:38] <SteveA> spiv: ping
[01:49] <tfheen> is it a known (and filed) bug that sorting on https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-6.10 seems to be.. odd?  Clicking "status" seems to sort by importance, assignee sorts by bug name, importance by bug nr, while report sorts by bug nr?
[01:57] <BjornT> tfheen: yeah, i saw a bug filed about that not long ago.
[01:58] <BjornT> tfheen: bug 62495
[01:58] <tfheen> BjornT: any idea about the bug # and ETA?  It's quite painful when I need to look at the list of unfixed bugs for a milestone
[01:58] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 62495 in malone "Milestone bug list doesn't sort properly" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62495
[01:58] <tfheen> oh, thanks
[01:59] <BjornT> tfheen: i'll take a look at it today to see how hard it is to fix.
[02:00] <tfheen> excellent, thanks.
[02:00] <tfheen> I'll add a comment to the bug too
[02:11] <jamesh> tfheen: just click on the column header two to the right of the column you want to sort on
[02:11] <tfheen> jamesh: not enough columns.
[02:11] <tfheen> I want to sort by status
[02:15] <jamesh> tfheen: okay.  In the meen time, try using https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs?advanced=1 and select the milestone you want to limit the search to
[02:15] <jamesh> e.g. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=status&field.status%3Alist=Unconfirmed&field.status%3Alist=Needs+Info&field.status%3Alist=Rejected&field.status%3Alist=Confirmed&field.status%3Alist=In+Progress&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Committed&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Released&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.owner=&field.milestone%3Alist=146&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.status_upstream=&field.sta
[02:15] <jamesh> tus_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.tag=&field.has_no_package.used=&search=Search
[02:16] <tfheen> jamesh: yeah, I guess that's a workaround.
[02:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62965 in launchpad-bazaar "https://launchpad.net/bazaar/+all-branches should be batched" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62965
[03:12] <salgado> spiv, around?
[03:19] <carlos> danilos: around?
[03:19] <danilos> carlos: yes
[03:19] <carlos> could we have a fast meeting about 1.0 goals?
[03:19] <shawarma> win 1
[03:19] <shawarma> doh...
[03:20] <danilos> carlos: sure
[03:25] <flacoste> salgado: ping
[03:25] <salgado> flacoste, pong
[03:26] <flacoste> salgado: just another conflict warning for your localized-support-request implementation: i refactored the notification mechanism for tickets
[03:26] <flacoste> salgado: hopefully, it will make it easier to implement what you need
[03:28] <salgado> flacoste, cool.   unfortunately, it's looking like that spec will need to be discussed a bit before I can move on. and I guess independently of the outcome of the discussion, I'll have quite some work to do on things not directly related to the support tracker
[03:28] <salgado> the good thing is that we're less likely to conflict
[03:29] <flacoste> salgado: ok, fine
[03:30] <pecisk> anyone here could say me where I should talk/disscuss about translation template files in Launchpad?
[03:30] <flacoste> salgado: do should we apply for an exception for that spec? i did yesterday for support-tracker-views, i think i might miss the oct 12th deadline by a bit
[03:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62976 in soyuz "duplicate package/version allowed in unapproved queue" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62976
[03:31] <salgado> flacoste, yeah, I'm considering that. I'll just wait until monday to see how the discussion goes
[03:31] <salgado> I mean, I think an exception will be necessary; I just want to be sure
[03:33] <BjornT> pecisk: you should talk to jordi, carlos or danilos
[03:33] <pecisk> carlos: I wanted to know how pot files get created? Simply in Edgy when I merge nautilus.pot file from it with GNOME 2.16 release nautilus.po, I get lot of string wrong in GUI in the end 
[03:34] <pecisk> BjornT: thanks for info
[03:34] <carlos> pecisk: the .pot files are generated when a .deb package is built
[03:34] <carlos> usually, using intltool-update -P
[03:35] <carlos> could you show me an example of the problem you get?
[03:35] <pecisk> Yeah
[03:36] <pecisk> carlos: it is rather simply. Nautilus provides "Computer" for GNOME panel menu and desktop, but in my language instead of that I get translation of "Countertop"
[03:36] <pecisk> it happens when I merge pot file with GNOME 2.16 release po from my language
[03:37] <pecisk> when I compile "clean" po file from GNOME and put it into /usr/share/locale-langpack/lv/LC_MESSAGES, everything is ok
[03:37] <pecisk> I am tempted to upload GNOME po file instead of merging with pot file from Launchpad, but I am not sure it won't cause any other problems
[03:38] <danilos> pecisk: someone must have submitted wrong translation using Rosetta, can you give a pointer to language and string in question?
[03:38] <carlos> pecisk: but, did you check that the .po file from Ubuntu has the right translation?
[03:39] <pecisk> carlos, I did, it has
[03:39] <carlos> then, I don't see the error...
[03:39] <carlos> how do you merge the .po file with the .pot file?
[03:40] <pecisk> carlos: and it doesn't even matter, because I merged GNOME po from official sources with pot file from Ubuntu. Before that, in official po file everything was in right place. After merge, final po has several places where Computer was replaced with Countrertop
[03:41] <carlos> I'm a bit lose
[03:41] <carlos> could you show me the commands you used?
[03:42] <pecisk> msgmerge nautilus.gnome-2.16.lv.po nautilus.pot -o nautilus-final.po
[03:42] <danilos> pecisk: do they also have the "#, fuzzy" comments next to them?
[03:43] <pecisk> danilos: no, that was why they appeared in GUI
[03:44] <carlos> pecisk: if the lv.po file has the right translation for the "Computer" string
[03:44] <pecisk> it has
[03:44] <carlos> pecisk: and the .pot file has a msgid with "Computer"
[03:44] <carlos> the output of the merge should have the right translation too
[03:44] <carlos> otherwise, msgmerge is not working as it should
[03:48] <carlos> pecisk: could you confirm this?
[03:49] <pecisk> lv.po has "Computer" right, and pot has "Computer" too, but in the end there is different term
[03:49] <pecisk> however, in comments, there is slight differences to references to C files
[03:50] <danilos> pecisk: hum, I just retried this and everything worked fine for me
[03:50] <carlos> pecisk: the new .po file should have the references in the .pot file
[03:50] <danilos> pecisk: I took http://l10n-status.gnome.org/gnome-2.16/PO/nautilus.HEAD.lv.po as the lv.po file
[03:50] <carlos> so that's normal
[03:50] <pecisk> hmmmmm
[03:51] <carlos> about the translation being different... that smells like a but in msgmerge
[03:51] <carlos> but that's weird....
[03:51] <danilos> pecisk: "Computer" in merged file is translated as "Dators"
[03:51] <danilos> pecisk: so, what version of msgmerge do you have?
[03:51] <pecisk> danilos: maybe then I merge wrong?
[03:51] <danilos> pecisk: no, I used exactly the same command
[03:51] <pecisk> pecisk@pecisk-desktop:~$ msgmerge -V
[03:51] <pecisk> msgmerge (GNU gettext-tools) 0.14.6
[03:51] <danilos> (apart from filenames)
[03:52] <danilos> that shouldn't be a problem, though I have 0.14.5
[03:52] <ddaa> "Most pages in Launchpad should have fourteen sections" duh?
[03:53] <carlos> pecisk: anyway, if you want, you can upload the .po file into Rosetta and Rosetta will handle the merge
[03:53] <pecisk> danilos: I will check again all my steps
[03:53] <pecisk> carlos: ooh, that's what I wanted to hear
[03:54] <danilos> pecisk: yeah, but I've never seen something like that happen
[03:54] <carlos> pecisk: we do the merge with the template with every import
[03:55] <carlos> automatically
[03:55] <carlos> pecisk: anyway, you should report that problem with msgmerge
[03:55] <pecisk> everything is fine, very sorry for bothering you guys
[03:55] <carlos> are you using a package version of it or your own version?
[03:55] <pecisk> found what was cause
[03:56] <pecisk> corrupt po file
[03:56] <carlos> I see
[03:56] <pecisk> damn, never trust third parties :)
[03:56] <danilos> well, parties are for fun :)
[03:57] <pecisk> and doin crazy things
[03:57] <pecisk> I know
[03:57] <pecisk> thanks anyway for help
[03:57] <pecisk> have a nice weekend :)
[03:58] <carlos> pecisk: same for you!
[05:12] <rraphink> hi
[05:12] <rraphink> is there an easy way to request an import from Debian?
[05:13] <kiko> rraphink, I think the process is file a bug
[05:13] <kiko> rraphink, ask on #ubuntu-devel
[05:13] <rraphink> ok
[05:13] <rraphink> I thought taht was the way
[05:13] <rraphink> but then file a bug on which package? :s
[05:14] <kiko> I'm not sure -- ask there
[05:14] <salgado> rraphink, I think you file the bug on the package you want to sync and assign a special team to the bug
[05:15] <salgado> rraphink, yeah, assign the https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-archive team to the bug
[05:15] <rraphink> salgado: the package doesn't exist in Ubuntu yet
[05:15] <rraphink> oh yes that's what I did last time
[05:15] <rraphink> just filed a bug in ubuntu without assigning a package
[05:15] <rraphink> and added ubuntu-archive
[05:15] <kiko> right
[05:15] <rraphink> thanks
[05:15] <rraphink> :)
[05:16] <salgado> np. :)
[05:28] <sfllaw> Does anyone here manage cricket?
[05:29] <salgado> sfllaw, stub
[05:30] <sfllaw> salgado: Thanks.
[05:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63000 in malone "Need a way to protect milestone and importance differently from the rest of IBugTask" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63000
[05:51] <ddaa> I'm thinking that launchpad bug numbers are bound to become unwieldly
[05:52] <ddaa> if adoption takes off, they can get into the 7 digits realm
[05:52] <ddaa> 5 digits is already annoying enough (hard to remember, high potential for typos)
[05:53] <carlos> ddaa: copy & paste is the key! :-D
[05:53] <ddaa> it's a workaround
[05:54] <ddaa> if we wanted people to copy-paste, we'd be using a uuid or something like that
[05:55] <mdke> matthewrevell: around?
[05:55] <matthewrevell> mdke: hello, yes
[06:02] <carlos> mdke: hi
[06:02] <mdke> carlos: hiya. all well?
[06:02] <carlos> mdke: yeah, we imported all documentation from *ubuntu-docs
[06:03] <mdke> from the packages in the archive right?
[06:03] <carlos> mdke: Could you include .po files for those packages inside the source packages?
[06:03] <carlos> mdke: right
[06:04] <carlos> that way our users will know the amount of strings that you already include in the repository
[06:04] <carlos> mdke: In fact, I don't understand how's that you don't do the .po -> .xml conversion on build time (I think you don't do that, I didn't look at the source)
[06:05] <mdke> heh, danilo can tell you that
[06:05] <mdke> the xml needs a lot of manual correction after conversion
[06:05] <mdke> including the po's is no problem, sure
[06:06] <mdke> I'll write it down so I don't forget - I just got back from vacation and will be fairly busy catching up
[06:06] <danilos> mdke: well, we can extend ubuntu mode to do any correction we want
[06:07] <danilos> mdke: though, for that part, talk with danilo, the free software guy (he is usually around on weekends ;))
[06:07] <mdke> haha. Ok
[06:08] <mdke> the error corrections are generally quite random typos though, or people translating tags
[06:08] <carlos> ;-)
[06:08] <carlos> ok
[06:08] <danilos> ah, that... right :)
[06:08] <danilos> we can add xml-format checking to rosetta even if msgfmt doesn't have that, anyway
[06:09] <carlos> mdke: well, I think including the .po files would be enough, the build part is just a suggestion to reduce the amount of work needed
[06:09] <danilos> though, bruno haible was interested in adding that to msgfmt, it just needs someone working on it ;)
[06:09] <danilos> bruno haible == gettext maintainer :)
[06:09] <carlos> I would prefer msgfmt fix
[06:10] <carlos> danilos: if you think you can do that, ask steve/kiko to see if we can do it as part of our tasks
[06:10] <mdke> ok, I'm off, my mailing list backlog is so scary I need to turn off the computer
[06:10] <danilos> carlos: sure, so fixing this on rosetta level might involve writing some gettext C code, and I am completely fine with that myself :)
[06:10] <danilos> mdke: welcome back :)
[06:10] <mdke> thanks, catch you soon
[06:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63009 in launchpad "Update oops-tools to not show google cached site as referred from local sites." [Low,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63009
[06:10] <danilos> carlos: right, but this is really not a priority right now
[06:11] <carlos> hmm, well, it wouldn't be msgfmt, but a xml-format or something like that
[06:11] <carlos> otherwise Rosetta will not be able to use it
[06:11] <carlos> right
[06:11] <carlos> not a high priority
[06:12] <salgado> malcc, just mailed you a review of deathrow-fix
[06:12] <malcc> salgado: Thanks
[06:13] <salgado> carlos, I should have CCed you on my las email (subject: LocalizedSupportRequests) to launchpad but I forgot. it'd be nice if you could have a look and see if the plan I'm proposing there looks sane
[06:14] <malcc> salgado: I'll do all that. The reason for the 35 vs. 0 is, when I filed the bug I assumed no underlying API was doing anything with a size when a symlink was deleted; when I did the implementation I found that it was just a broken chain of return values, and once it was complete the symlinks returned accurate sizes. Of course their real size isn't zero, I was just planning to approximate :)
[06:14] <carlos> salgado: I saw it
[06:14] <carlos> salgado: and at first sight, I think it's ok
[06:15] <salgado> malcc, ah, I see. you have r=salgado with these changes then. :)
[06:15] <malcc> salgado: Thanks :)
[06:16] <salgado> carlos, cool. thank you!
[06:27] <jordi> danilos: wow man
[06:27] <jordi> danilos: it's been difficult to meet you with the non-stop meetings I've been having and your connection woes
[06:27] <jordi> danilos: will you be around on Sunday? :P
[06:28] <danilos> jordi: actually, I will :)
[06:28] <jordi> danilos: that's good
[06:29] <danilos> jordi: and Sunday is as good for this as any other day :)
[06:29] <jordi> I nheed to go to Sitges to finish the flat emptying, but could be around on Sun
[06:29] <jordi> soon that house will be no more :(
[06:30] <danilos> oh, you still haven't sold it? or just haven't turned the keys over yet?
[06:30] <jordi> no, we're still giving away furniture and stuff
[06:30] <danilos> yeah, it's a really nice and huge place :(
[06:30] <danilos> and the beach in Sitges is crazy! ;)
[06:30] <jordi> it's mostly empty now. what remains is stuff nobody wants.
[06:30] <jordi> *totally*
[06:31] <jordi> wait, you mean the one near the church?
[06:31] <jordi> not the GAY NUDE BEACH?
[06:31] <jordi> :P
[06:31] <jordi> wow, I think I never posted the post-guadec blog entry.
[06:32] <jordi> That had pics of the ay zone
[06:32] <jordi> totally great for the planets
[06:32] <danilos> heh
[06:32] <jordi> of course I also have a pic or two of the other beach
[06:33] <danilos> yeah, I didn't either... and I should upload my photos, I have a bunch of photos of you modelling, for example ;)
[06:33] <danilos> "almost" nude ;)
[06:34] <danilos> (i.e. just made for planets)
[06:35] <jordi> lol
[06:35] <jordi> ok
[06:35] <jordi> I should get prepared to leave
[06:37] <danilos> ok, enjoy some of the last moments in sitges, where you felt at home :P
[06:39] <jordi> I'm going to mail you a  pic of me in the GAY, NUDE BEACH
[06:39] <jordi> apologies to #launchpad about this conversation :)
[06:40] <danilos> hah, I'll be waiting ;)
[06:41] <danilos> jordi: though, no need to apologize, launchpadders are not discriminative :P
[06:43] <danilos> anyway, stopping now :)
[07:03] <SteveA> kiko: pingo
[07:12] <salgado> SteveA, he just left to have lunch
[07:13] <SteveA> thanks salgado.  I got a quick word in with kiko :-)
[07:14] <rraphink> 49959
[07:14] <salgado> ah, right. sometimes I forget to check the timestamps of messages. :/
[07:36] <matthewrevell> SteveA: ping
[07:38] <SteveA> hi matthewrevell 
[08:11] <carlos> later
[08:11] <carlos> kiko: around?
[08:12] <kiko> carlos, yes?
[08:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63022 in soyuz "New icons needed for soyuz +queue page." [Low,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63022
[09:30] <kiko> hey BjornT?
[09:30] <BjornT> hi kiko 
[09:31] <kiko> BjornT, interested in looking at a patch for externalbugtracker.Bugzilla that makes it work for /any/ version of bugzilla?
[09:31] <BjornT> kiko: sure
[09:31] <kiko> bad news: no tests. good news: works. :)
[09:31] <kiko> https://sodium.ubuntu.com/~andrew/paste/fileO6CtL5.html
[09:31] <kiko> it supports issuezilla as well
[09:36] <BjornT> kiko: does issuezilla really expect bug ids to be separated with ':', and not ',' like bugzilla? (when requesting the xml list)
[09:36] <kiko> BjornT, yes. 
[09:39] <matsubara> bzr is funny.
[09:39] <matsubara> $ bzr push --overwrite
[09:39] <matsubara> -2 revision(s) pushed.
[09:40] <kiko> matsubara, yeah, I think it's known. did you bzr uncommit perchance?
[09:40] <matsubara> kiko: no, the branch I was pushing into was 2 rev ahead. that's why I overwrote it.
[09:40] <kiko> ah
[09:45] <BjornT> kiko: well, the code looks mostly good, but you should catch the exceptions you added somewhere. they shouldn't fall through to the unexpected-exception handler.
[09:45] <kiko> BjornT, oh. 
[09:46] <BjornT> kiko: and i think some basic tests are required for merge approval as well :)
[09:47] <kiko> BjornT, yeah. one question is: how to test the form?
[09:51] <BjornT> kiko: i guess you'd have to either extend or add a new TestBugzilla, to accept different form variables/page names depending on which version it is. it's not that nice, but it's hard to test it properly.
[09:52] <kiko> okay
[09:52] <kiko> BjornT, it's so easy to manually test this if you can assume internet, btw.
[09:54] <BjornT> yeah, i know. i don't think we want add such tests to the pqm test suite, though :) although, it wouldn't hurt having some test scripts that you could run manually from time to time.
[09:58] <kiko> yeah.
[10:30] <ddaa> evil spiv requested a svn import of twisteh
[10:30] <ddaa> twisted
[10:34] <carlos> enjoy your weekend!!!
[10:34] <kiko> salgado, matsubara: I may have time for your reviews today
[10:35] <salgado> kiko, that'd be great!
[10:37] <kiko> matsubara, salgado: URLs?
[10:40] <matsubara> kiko: https://sodium.ubuntu.com/~andrew/paste/filePMAijq.html mainly a pagetest conversion and a way to reproduce bug 1558 (which is now gone with your SQLObject patch)
[10:40] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 1558 in rosetta "Export request form should check for uniqueness of entry" [Critical,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/1558
[10:41] <salgado> kiko, https://sodium.ubuntu.com/~andrew/paste/filed51aL6.html ; it will also show up on pending-reviews quickly
[10:44] <kiko> salgado, 'lib/canonical/testing/layers.py' ?
[10:44] <salgado> kiko, yeah, unused import
[10:44] <kiko> drop it! :)
[10:44] <salgado> there was a bug there, an undefined name, which I fixed but somebody fixed that and merged before I did
[10:45] <salgado> luckily, bzr is smart enough to not conflict
[10:45] <kiko> I see.
[10:45] <kiko> +          <a tal:attributes="href mirror/http_base_url"
[10:45] <kiko> won't that crash if the mirror doesn't have one?
[10:46] <salgado> depends
[10:47] <salgado> actually, it won't crash, for sure
[10:53] <kiko> salgado, can you summarize in points what this patch does?
[10:53] <salgado> kiko, Fix [WWW]  bug 60235, enable probing of ftp-only mirrors and remove lots of unused code.
[10:53] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 60235 in launchpad "Disabling mirrors when they fail a single probe is not fair" [High,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60235
[10:55] <kiko> salgado, distributionmirror-prober crack gone? I thought you were saying that was useful?
[10:55] <salgado> eh?
[10:55] <salgado> what crack?
[10:55] <kiko> > [10:55] <kiko> salgado, did you send me an inverted patch?
[10:56] <salgado> I guess so
[10:58] <salgado> kiko, https://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/filesdA1RE.html
[10:58] <salgado> sorry for that
[10:58] <kiko> salgado, mmmmmm
[10:59] <kiko> THAT'S why nothing was making sense
[11:00] <salgado> then you should have guessed... or do you think I'd write code that doesn't make any sense?
[11:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63052 in launchpad "fmt:shorten should ellide at word boundaries" [Low,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63052
[11:00] <kiko> salgado, I hate to say I know there have been cases
[11:08] <ddaa> code always make sense
[11:08] <ddaa> it's all a matter of perspective
[11:08] <kiko> it's all a matter of CRACK
[11:09] <ddaa> crack is a matter of perspective, and sometimes perspective might be a matter of crack indeed...
[11:09] <kiko> salgado, wtf is david talking about?
[11:09] <salgado> crack?
[11:10] <ddaa> Don't worry, I've been doing import herding and debugging for 2.5 hours
[11:10] <ddaa> svn crack
[11:10] <ddaa> cvs crack
[11:10] <ddaa> user input crack
[11:10] <kiko> stop scaring us
[11:11] <ddaa> just found a particularly clever CVS repo that breaks cscvs in a way that is entirely new to me
[11:11] <kiko> ddaa, if only fixing cscvs was as easy as fixing externalsystem.Bugzilla
[11:11] <kiko> I fixed /all/ failing cases we have at the moment in about 20 minutes
[11:12] <ddaa> don't worry, yesterday I came up with a design that should fix most of our svn failures when I implement it
[11:12] <ddaa> and SteveA supports my focusing in it next week
[11:13] <ddaa> it was all a matter of getting the right perspective :)
[11:15] <salgado> hmmm. gotta run. friday night classes. :-(