[07:04] <whurley> is there an easy way to update ubuntu-server 5.10 to the latest version? 
[07:04] <whurley> (sorry new to server) 
[07:05] <infinity> sed -i -e "s/breezy/dapper/" /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:11] <whurley> thanks so much 
[07:11] <whurley> I'm still fighting the amd dual proc dapper issues 
[07:11] <whurley> but wanting to install the previous version (if that works) and then upgrade to see if that's a work around 
[07:13] <infinity> "the amd dual proc dapper issue"?
[07:13] <whurley> we're testing Dapper as the "os of choice" for the Open Management Consortium 
[07:14] <whurley> however, we've been running into an issue that looks like this 
[07:15] <whurley> the install cd (amd64 version) boots fine and displays the install choices. However, when you select any install option, with any boot options that have been suggested (and there have been many) then it freezes right after "io scheduler cfg registered" and right before where the kernel gets loaded into the ram disk 
[07:16] <whurley> the servers we're deploying look like this:
[07:16] <infinity> Curious.  And I assume there's a bug filed about this?
[07:16] <whurley> Penguin Computing Altus 1300s Dual AMD 248s with Northbridge, 4GB ram and 300GB drives 
[07:17] <whurley> well, no not that I found 
[07:17] <whurley> I also thought it coule be us 
[07:17] <whurley> :)
[07:17] <whurley> I personally wonder it is something with the mem controller 
[07:17] <infinity> Well, it could be, but if it's us, it would be nice for you to file a bug and work on resolving it, rather than just assuming it'll stay broken. :)
[07:17] <whurley> since it dies right as the ramdisk is starting 
[07:17] <whurley> oh 
[07:17] <whurley> don't worry 
[07:18] <whurley> I would have already dumped this distro 2 days ago under normal circumstances 
[07:18] <whurley> I have been documenting everything tried 
[07:18] <whurley> and we're systematically trying to find the cause :)
[07:19] <whurley> we want to start a systems management team 
[07:20] <infinity> Anyhow, the next thing after registering the I/O schedulers appears ot be ACPI probes.
[07:20] <infinity> So, if I had to take a short in the dark, I'd guess some IOAPIC/ACPI mangling, either on the kernel command line or in the BIOS, will probably clear you up.
[07:20] <whurley> so that the OMC can build on top of the OEM version of ubuntu server and create a systems mgmt stack 
[07:20] <whurley> :)
[07:20] <whurley> nope
[07:20] <infinity> But talking to BenC (in a bug report, ideally, or in #ubuntu-kernel) will get you further than talking to me.
[07:20] <whurley> we tried...
[07:21] <whurley> noapic nolapic apci=off
[07:21] <whurley> and the google of other options :)
[07:21] <whurley> lol
[07:22] <whurley> I'll see if Ben is online 
[07:37] <whurley> Infinity, one more question 
[07:37] <whurley> actually, never mind
[08:20] <gururug> how about including some scripts that setup systems with packages for certain server roles, i.e. lamp, samba member server etc.
[08:21] <ajmitch> yes, that's being done
[08:25] <gururug> sweet
[08:25] <infinity> Except not with scripts.
[08:25] <infinity> You can choose a LAMP install from the installer.
[08:25] <infinity> Or later with tasksel.
[08:25] <gururug> ahh..
[08:26] <gururug> what's the recommended deployment method for ubuntu in the enterprise, http?
[08:27] <gururug> is there an easy way to get a udpcast gui installed with apt / dpkg?
[09:00] <gururug> sorry, what i really mean is, distro-specific, gui service configuration tools will attract users to ubuntu.
[08:08] <porkpie1> Hi guy's just trying to install the latest ubuntu server amd64 on a Dell power edge 1950 but it doesn't see the Dual Embedded Broadcom NetXtreme II 5708 Gigabit Ethernet NIC
[08:09] <porkpie1> This has 2 dual core 3.0ghz in it as well ...am I using the correct server image ?
[08:09] <porkpie1> We want to run xen on it ...:)
[08:12] <whurley> porkpie1: out of curiosity did you have an issues with the install? 
[08:13] <Ries> hey porkpie1
[08:18] <porkpie1> no didn't finish
[08:24] <lionelp> porkpie1: it was with a dapper CD or an Edgy ?
[08:24] <whurley> porkpie1: sorry i meant installing ubuntu-server :)
[08:26] <Ries> lionelp: whurley: We used the unbuntu serve 6 AMD 64 bit version
[08:27] <Ries> going to post 3 lines 
[08:27] <Ries> # lspci | grep -i broad
[08:27] <Ries> PCI bridge: Broadcom: Unknown device 0103 (rev c2)
[08:27] <Ries> Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 164c (rev 11)
[08:27] <Ries> That is what we currently get
[08:28] <lionelp> Ries: it would be interesting to test with a live Edgy CD to know if the issue is still present
[08:28] <lionelp> it seems that there are some issues with the latest x950 Dell servers :-(
[08:29] <Ries> lionelp: we have indeed the latest version of dell server
[08:31] <porkpie1> Dual Embedded Broadcom NetXtreme II 5708 Gigabit Ethernet NIC
[08:32] <whurley> Ries: and there were no install issues? I'm having a freeze right after "io scheduler cfg registered" and right before the ramdisk loads. I've tried boot options, etc. but have found nothing that will get me past that point. So you use the Northbrige in your server? Perhaps there are some bios settings that should be adjusted. All I know is that I'm starting to get desperate for help :)
[08:33] <lionelp> whurley: did you open a bug ?
[08:33] <whurley> documenting for that now...where should it be posted? 
[08:33] <Ries> whurley: We have yet ti finnish the install... We will do that first without the nic and then we will see what happens
[08:34] <whurley> Ries: thanks. I'll be interested to see. Meantime I'll open a big (though I'm not sure what to open it against) 
[08:34] <Ries> Ok...
[08:34] <lionelp> whurley: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bugs
[08:35] <whurley> lionelp: thanks
[08:35] <Ries> Mark ( porkpie1 ) I am heaving lunche with karina... I'll be back in 30 minutes
[08:38] <Ries> whurley: we will be right back
[08:39] <whurley> Ries: thanks
[08:46] <whurley> Bug #63028: Ubuntu-server Installation freezes on AMD Dual Proc server
[08:46] <whurley> has been opened 
[09:02] <lionelp> whurley: nice
[09:03] <lionelp> the apropriate person will contact you for getting more information and try to resolve with you the bug
[10:44] <Overand> worked fine on my X2 server- but that was amd-64 install
[10:45] <Overand> ah, just read the scrollback.